Stupid shit in Medellin

[JjBee62]

Did I not categorically say that it was about the 25 other guys caught up in the sting. The reason we are taking about this sting though and not the dozens that happen monthly across the country is precisely because Robert Kraft was involved. It's what caused the publicity. The fact that he is rich is irrelevant other than that he gets the best lawyers as you said. The reputational hit to every person caught up in this is what I was talking about. As to the rest of you rant about him, sounds to me like envy.
Whether he was targeted or not is debatable and you nor I know this with any certainty. I can call you polyannish just as you can call me paranoid. How did he break the law when this was consensual? Isn't that why the charged were dropped?

The law is shit we all here can agree, but we live in a democracy and those are the rules set by the majority. No point going on a moral crusade over it. It's not about doing work or not. Many of us have figured out at its far better and easier to just jump on a plane and do our thing where it is legally acceptable.

Yet it doesn't change the fact that the direction of US society has been increasingly repressive to the male gender. The result, broken families and increasing societal ills. Drug use, mental health issues, broken families, etc etc.

Probably over 1/2 the damn health care spend in this country is due to social problems that come up due to broken family structures and it's downstream effects. It matters because the health work force is burnt out and the spending is out of control and all I hear is health care is a right and social infrastructure. It used to be called a family. Feminism is a driving force for this and it doesn't work for most men. We all know where politically feminists are parked.

The charges were dropped because a judge ruled the video surveillance from inside the massage parlor inadmissible. Without the video evidence there's no proof that any laws were broken. That was specifically stated in the article I linked.

In most of the United States it's not considered consensual if money is exchanged. If you need to have it explained go talk to a lawyer.

As for the reputation hit, it goes away pretty quickly.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Did I not categorically say that it was about the 25 other guys caught up in the sting. The reason we are taking about this sting though and not the dozens that happen monthly across the country is precisely because Robert Kraft was involved. It's what caused the publicity. The fact that he is rich is irrelevant other than that he gets the best lawyers as you said. The reputational hit to every person caught up in this is what I was talking about. As to the rest of you rant about him, sounds to me like envy.
Whether he was targeted or not is debatable and you nor I know this with any certainty. I can call you polyannish just as you can call me paranoid. How did he break the law when this was consensual? Isn't that why the charged were dropped?

The law is shit we all here can agree, but we live in a democracy and those are the rules set by the majority. No point going on a moral crusade over it. It's not about doing work or not. Many of us have figured out at its far better and easier to just jump on a plane and do our thing where it is legally acceptable.

Yet it doesn't change the fact that the direction of US society has been increasingly repressive to the male gender. The result, broken families and increasing societal ills. Drug use, mental health issues, broken families, etc etc..

Bravo, encore por favor!

[GeneHickman]

The police all over the US run stings on massage parlors all the time. They run stings on street prostitution all the time. No whacked out conspiracy theories needed. It's a mathematical certainty that from time to time they'll get someone rich or famous. Same thing happens with DUI checkpoints.
But that requires you to actually get out there and do something rather than just whining about how unfair it is.

Did I not categorically say that it was about the 25 other guys caught up in the sting. The reason we are taking about this sting though and not the dozens that happen monthly across the country is precisely because Robert Kraft was involved. It's what caused the publicity. The fact that he is rich is irrelevant other than that he gets the best lawyers as you said. The reputational hit to every person caught up in this is what I was talking about. As to the rest of you rant about him, sounds to me like envy.
Whether he was targeted or not is debatable and you nor I know this with any certainty. I can call you polyannish just as you can call me paranoid. How did he break the law when this was consensual? Isn't that why the charged were dropped?

The law is shit we all here can agree, but we live in a democracy and those are the rules set by the majority. No point going on a moral crusade over it. It's not about doing work or not. Many of us have figured out at its far better and easier to just jump on a plane and do our thing where it is legally acceptable.

Yet it doesn't change the fact that the direction of US society has been increasingly repressive to the male gender. The result, broken families and increasing societal ills. Drug use, mental health issues, broken families, etc etc.

Probably over 1/2 the damn health care spend in this country is due to social problems that come up due to broken family structures and it's downstream effects. It matters because the health work force is burnt out and the spending is out of control and all I hear is health care is a right and social infrastructure. It used to be called a family. Feminism is a driving force for this and it doesn't work for most men. We all know where politically feminists are parked.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Jajaja spewing stupid shit again, it's no wonder this thread is your new found home LOL.

Yeah I didn't think you would accept my offer, you rather shoot spitballs like a 5 yo in kindergarten and then hide behind the teachers skirt for protection jajajajaaaaa.

Just get back to doing what I'm guessing you do best, eating diseased dirty assholes 24/7!!

[BlackThought]

I've never understood why some mongers don't understand the potential implications of such events on their lives. The Feds could go after any of us literally if they wanted to do so. They will just put some BS charge and ruin your reputation. This is one of those things where a public accusation is a punishment in and of itself. We rightfully shield rape victims from publicity, but don't see it fit to do the same for things like this atleast till guilt proven. Explain the equity in that?
Imagine the impact of this on those 25 charged people who are not Robert Kraft. Their personal lives and reputations, and mental health.

And for what? Some puritanical tirade and stance by an overbearing power structure cow towing to the feminists on one hand and the religious purists on the other. I don't go near an Asian massage parlor for this reason, the risks are just too high. FFS putting a hidden camera in a massage room? That's your tax dollars at work? Going after consensual activity, pushing all P4P off US servers? Even seeking website becoming a monitored space? I remind you all of why his website is Netherlands based.
Men are increasingly being repressed in this country and it's not heading anywhere good. Billionaire or not is irrelevant to what was done to him, only relevant to the legal outcome. Equally I think he was targeted due to his political links,his fame and to make an example. But the message is loud and clear if you don't choose to plug your ears and shut your eyes.

I avoid mongering in the states for the reasons you've listed, the risk isn't worth it.

[JjBee62]

I've never understood why some mongers don't understand the potential implications of such events on their lives. The Feds could go after any of us literally if they wanted to do so. They will just put some BS charge and ruin your reputation. This is one of those things where a public accusation is a punishment in and of itself. We rightfully shield rape victims from publicity, but don't see it fit to do the same for things like this atleast till guilt proven. Explain the equity in that?
Imagine the impact of this on those 25 charged people who are not Robert Kraft. Their personal lives and reputations, and mental health.

And for what? Some puritanical tirade and stance by an overbearing power structure cow towing to the feminists on one hand and the religious purists on the other. I don't go near an Asian massage parlor for this reason, the risks are just too high. FFS putting a hidden camera in a massage room? That's your tax dollars at work? Going after consensual activity, pushing all P4P off US servers? Even seeking website becoming a monitored space? I remind you all of why his website is Netherlands based..

The police all over the US run stings on massage parlors all the time. They run stings on street prostitution all the time. No whacked out conspiracy theories needed. It's a mathematical certainty that from time to time they'll get someone rich or famous. Same thing happens with DUI checkpoints.

Here's what it boils down to, he broke the law. I'm not saying the law is fair, I'm not saying the police didn't overstep the boundaries. I'm saying that he broke the law. Do you understand? If you break the law you need to understand there are risks.

Every day people are arrested for breaking some law that doesn't hurt anyone, but if they don't have any money they spend years in prison, many of them die there. But you want to focus on the terrible ordeal Robert Kraft faced? Oh the humanity! Give me a fucking break. Just last Sunday night, during the football game, the camera panned to Robert Kraft, enjoying the game in his private box. Did they mention the arrest? Did they say anything bad about his character? No. They praised the success of his team.

If you want the laws changed, you're crying to the wrong crowd. Nobody on ISG has any say about the laws against getting an overpriced handjob. If it's that important to you, you need to be at your local statehouse demanding the right to pay some 60 year old Chinese woman to jerk you off.

But that requires you to actually get out there and do something rather than just whining about how unfair it is.

[RacShack]

I've never understood why some mongers don't understand the potential implications of such events on their lives. The Feds could go after any of us literally if they wanted to do so. They will just put some BS charge and ruin your reputation. This is one of those things where a public accusation is a punishment in and of itself. We rightfully shield rape victims from publicity, but don't see it fit to do the same for things like this atleast till guilt proven. Explain the equity in that?
Imagine the impact of this on those 25 charged people who are not Robert Kraft. Their personal lives and reputations, and mental health.

And for what? Some puritanical tirade and stance by an overbearing power structure cow towing to the feminists on one hand and the religious purists on the other. I don't go near an Asian massage parlor for this reason, the risks are just too high. FFS putting a hidden camera in a massage room? That's your tax dollars at work? Going after consensual activity, pushing all P4P off US servers? Even seeking website becoming a monitored space? I remind you all of why his website is Netherlands based.
Men are increasingly being repressed in this country and it's not heading anywhere good. Billionaire or not is irrelevant to what was done to him, only relevant to the legal outcome. Equally I think he was targeted due to his political links,his fame and to make an example. But the message is loud and clear if you don't choose to plug your ears and shut your eyes.

Wow this is the most honest and truthful way to put this shit! Crazy, but true! Total big pitcher!

[GeneHickman]

Yes, but let's get things straight here. He had the money to fight. The government has a payroll and you better have a million to fight something like this.

Uh, Okay shit for brains.

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/2...tution-arrests


So shit for brains LE lost because of their stupidity. What they wanted was him in jail for decades and to slice up his billions with them and the Feds as beneficiaries. Why else would they be shooting their mouths off about trafficking?

And all this for a fucking consensual HJ.

I've never understood why some mongers don't understand the potential implications of such events on their lives. The Feds could go after any of us literally if they wanted to do so. They will just put some BS charge and ruin your reputation. This is one of those things where a public accusation is a punishment in and of itself. We rightfully shield rape victims from publicity, but don't see it fit to do the same for things like this atleast till guilt proven. Explain the equity in that?
Imagine the impact of this on those 25 charged people who are not Robert Kraft. Their personal lives and reputations, and mental health.

And for what? Some puritanical tirade and stance by an overbearing power structure cow towing to the feminists on one hand and the religious purists on the other. I don't go near an Asian massage parlor for this reason, the risks are just too high. FFS putting a hidden camera in a massage room? That's your tax dollars at work? Going after consensual activity, pushing all P4P off US servers? Even seeking website becoming a monitored space? I remind you all of why his website is Netherlands based.
Men are increasingly being repressed in this country and it's not heading anywhere good. Billionaire or not is irrelevant to what was done to him, only relevant to the legal outcome. Equally I think he was targeted due to his political links,his fame and to make an example. But the message is loud and clear if you don't choose to plug your ears and shut your eyes.

[Elvis 2008]

He is a billionaire so of course things were dropped.

Yes, but let's get things straight here. He had the money to fight. The government has a payroll and you better have a million to fight something like this.

As I said, his arrest had only a minimal effect on him. All charges were dropped along with all charges against the other 25 people arrested. Even before charges were dropped, he was only facing 2 misdemeanors.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-c...utors-n1240964

Some people seem to believe he was facing life in prison.

Uh, Okay shit for brains.

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/2...tution-arrests

Kraft, 77, faces two counts of soliciting a prostitute, a first-degree misdemeanor punishable by up to one year in jail.

Just one year huh? Yeah, well, that is not what LE really wanted.

Calling human trafficking in Palm Beach County "evil in our midst," State Attorney Dave Aronberg announced Monday that 25 men accused of paying for sex acts at a Jupiter day spa have been formally charged with soliciting a prostitute.

The arrests are among more than 60 in a multiagency crackdown on day spas where authorities allege women who came to the United States from China for what they thought were legitimate jobs in the spas were forced to perform sex acts on clients. They also say the women were largely confined to the spas, eating and sleeping there and often having to surrender their passports.

To date, no one arrested as part of the investigation faces a charge of human trafficking, defined as the soliciting, recruiting or harboring of another person to exploit him or her for labor, domestic servitude or sexual exploitation, although Aronberg said at a news conference on Monday on the steps of the Palm Beach County Courthouse that that situation could change.

"Human trafficking is the business of stealing someone's freedom for profit," said Aronberg, whose office for two years has led a task force that targets human trafficking. "It can happen anywhere, including the peaceful community of Jupiter, Florida. "

End of quote.

The offense of human trafficking charged under Florida Statute Section 787.06 (3), is punishable as a first-degree felony. A first-degree felony is punishable by a state prison term not exceeding 30 years, a fine not exceeding $10,000, or both.

So how come Kraft walked? He used a prostitute no question about it, but he walked because of the incompetence of the police, and the woman who gave Kraft a HJ was not willing to testify against Kraft. I wonder how much Kraft paid her. Whatever she got afterwards was worth it.

So shit for brains LE lost because of their stupidity. What they wanted was him in jail for decades and to slice up his billions with them and the Feds as beneficiaries. Why else would they be shooting their mouths off about trafficking?

And all this for a fucking consensual HJ.

[LoveItHere69]

As I said, his arrest had only a minimal effect on him. All charges were dropped along with all charges against the other 25 people arrested. Even before charges were dropped, he was only facing 2 misdemeanors.

Some people seem to believe he was facing life in prison.

He is a billionaire so of course things were dropped.

The news made 2 misdemeanors front page news and the main topic on the TV and cable news for weeks. Media makes mountains out of mole hills. The problem is that so many people still believe the news. The news media is not like it was 30 years ago. Reputation and facts mean nothing now.

[BlackThought]

The only thing sad around here is your fawning / asslicking posts you write like a child trying to join in the convo with the big boys jajajaja.

Take your asslicking prowess and get back to ccp land ASAP.

There must lots of dirty diarrhea asses for you these days.

https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2021...ines-australia

The world is closing in on the CCP / Xi India Australia Japan Russia UK the EU Indonesia Vietnam the Philippines, the noose is getting tighter.

I tried painting an image of you in posts, but I guess they haven't made thru moderation, I would love to write what I really would like others to see.

You can always send me an I'm and we can chat there? Or exchange email whatsapp etc.

I get tired of responding to your childish trolling and then if I do, it doesn't even get posted.

Jajaja spewing stupid shit again, it's no wonder this thread is your new found home LOL.

[BlackThought]

You're exactly right. Most people here are not interested in having a discussion with some foul-mouthed high-school kid.

Jajaja yea it's hilarious, he's so desperate for validation lmao. I bet the chicas ignore him as well, so he comes up with fantasies in his mom's basement. Too bad everybody knows his stories are nothing but fabricated BS jajajaj.

[Villainy]

Jajaj give it up. You're probably on everybody's ignore list lmao. Keep replying to ppls post, yet nobody responds. SAD!

You're exactly right. Most people here are not interested in having a discussion with some foul-mouthed high-school kid.

[JjBee62]

As I said, his arrest had only a minimal effect on him. All charges were dropped along with all charges against the other 25 people arrested. Even before charges were dropped, he was only facing 2 misdemeanors.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-c...utors-n1240964

Some people seem to believe he was facing life in prison.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Jajaj give it up. You're probably on everybody's ignore list lmao. Keep replying to ppls post, yet nobody responds. SAD!

The only thing sad around here is your fawning / asslicking posts you write like a child trying to join in the convo with the big boys jajajaja.

Take your asslicking prowess and get back to ccp land ASAP.

There must lots of dirty diarrhea asses for you these days.

https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2021...ines-australia

The world is closing in on the CCP / Xi India Australia Japan Russia UK the EU Indonesia Vietnam the Philippines, the noose is getting tighter.

I tried painting an image of you in posts, but I guess they haven't made thru moderation, I would love to write what I really would like others to see.

You can always send me an I'm and we can chat there? Or exchange email whatsapp etc.

I get tired of responding to your childish trolling and then if I do, it doesn't even get posted.

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/gor...12/id/1036036/

https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/g...19/id/1025698/

https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/g...07/id/1031494/