Stupid shit in Medellin

[Elvis 2008]

So what I am trying to say is that all you COVID nuts should start worrying about dodging cars.

Buddy went to New York because his sister died. Funeral Parlor told him to get the doctor to list the death as COVID and he could get $9,000 paid toward the funeral expenses. I looked it up and it is the the tip pf the iceberg. There is a ton of money to be made and saved if you use COVID to your benefit! So many COVID deaths are complete BS. Only the stupid still believe in the scare tactics. It has been two years. You idiots need to wake up!

Great post LIH! Yeah, JJBee does all these math calculations and even gives an example of how death certificates may not correctly be filled out. I am wondering if even he is going to start questioning this death data because this story you just gave happens all the time.

The powers that be wanted these numbers inflated until recently when they are coming back and biting them in the ass and what is amazing is you actually have guys here covering this up.

You are a dumb blowhard self absorbed with your own views. You fail to realize these are probabilities you are dealing with, and those are measured over populations. But obviously you will live in your oblivion.

You do not even need me to tell you this guy is full of it because you have seen yourself how the deaths are counted, but he wants you to believe there is this super secret scientific method counting deaths. He does not and cannot say what that method is so he relies on insults and arrogance. They want you to believe in an authority figure that you know does not exist.

[GeneHickman]

There is a difference between infection rate and death rate, Covid infection rate is higher, but much lower death rate. If the death rate was as high as Ebola, there would be at least 200 million dead worldwide.

Valid point and I never argued otherwise, nonetheless the contagion and epidemiology means more overall died from this last 2yrs and without the measures even more likely would have. Hence the comparison is incorrect.

[GeneHickman]

LOL. Facts Gene? Where the hell were you when JJBee had an embolic event and no anticoagulants were given?

And JJBee is still arguing for the vaccine. So tell me doctor, is it well known that the vaccine causes embolic events as well?

And maybe you can tell me why the vaccine is being mandated on people with prior infection seeing as how you know all about the standard of care especially those with prior embolic events.

Or maybe you can just keep kissing the government's ass while it artificially inflates Covid numbers and ignore all the mayhem the vaccines are causing.

You are a dumb blowhard self absorbed with your own views. You fail to realize these are probabilities you are dealing with, and those are measured over populations. But obviously you will live in your oblivion. Those like you deserve any and everything you get for you have stood as a barrier ensuring the endemicity of this thing when if all got vaxed within a timeframe this could have been extinguished. You are ignorant and unworthy of a debate.

[LoveItHere69]

Roughly 1.3 million people die in auto accidents (automobile, motor cyclists, and people hit by them) every year. 3,287 per day. This can easily be tripled since the majority of the people on the planet do not own a vehicle or a motor cycle which means that there are 3. 9 million people each year or 9,861 per day dying. So what I am trying to say is that all you COVID nuts should start worrying about dodging cars and motor cycles like Frogger. So just JUMP!

Buddy went to New York because his sister died. Funeral Parlor told him to get the doctor to list the death as COVID and he could get $9,000 paid toward the funeral expenses. I looked it up and it is the the tip pf the iceberg. There is a ton of money to be made and saved if you use COVID to your benefit! So many COVID deaths are complete BS. Only the stupid still believe in the scare tactics. It has been two years. You idiots need to wake up!

https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/fe...ral-assistance

[Elvis 2008]

Covid is an acute illness. Acute illness increases risk of thromboembolism, and Covid especially so. This is well recognized all over the medical literature. Prophylactic doses of anticoagulants is now part of the regimen of standard of care and you are utterly misinformed. So don't confuse your political ideology with medical facts, and stop with your facial love affair with your rectum. First go look up your facts, it would be a first step in that monumental effort.

LOL. Facts Gene? Where the hell were you when JJBee had an embolic event and no anticoagulants were given?

And JJBee is still arguing for the vaccine. So tell me doctor, is it well known that the vaccine causes embolic events as well?

And maybe you can tell me why the vaccine is being mandated on people with prior infection seeing as how you know all about the standard of care especially those with prior embolic events.

Or maybe you can just keep kissing the government's ass while it artificially inflates Covid numbers and ignore all the mayhem the vaccines are causing.

[MedalloBum]

Well let's see. Officially over 5 M people have died of Covid in under 2 yrs. And we know many countries undercounted this. Be that as it may it still approaching 3 M a year. 33 M have died of AIDS predominantly in Africa in about 40 yrs. That's about 800 k a year. Ebola has taken a few thousand people in all. As far as global health goes, Covid has had the bigger impact. Despite the mitigation measured put in place.

There is a difference between infection rate and death rate, Covid infection rate is higher, but much lower death rate. If the death rate was as high as Ebola, there would be at least 200 million dead worldwide.

[GeneHickman]

Hahahhahahahha.

And the covid cultist shows his true colors. They always do. Grossly misinformed, or just lacking logic. Emotional thinking really is a bee-otch.

Well let's see. Officially over 5 M people have died of Covid in under 2 yrs. And we know many countries undercounted this. Be that as it may it still approaching 3 M a year. 33 M have died of AIDS predominantly in Africa in about 40 yrs. That's about 800 k a year. Ebola has taken a few thousand people in all. As far as global health goes, Covid has had the bigger impact. Despite the mitigation measured put in place.

[Nounce]

Hahahhahahahha.
Covid is worse than ebola or aids. 99.97 survival rate...

It depends on how you look at the numbers because the number of deaths tells a different story.

[GeneHickman]

Yeah, Gene, I know.

What is sheer nonsense is not distinguishing between deaths from Covid and with Covid. You make it sound like all emboli now are due to Covid. Are they? And if not, how do you tell which emboli are due to Covid and which ones are not? I have asked this three times now and not gotten an answer. That is pretty telling in and of itself.

Wow, you mean it is not the virus that causes death from respiratory failure? The virus causes inflammation and the body responds to the inflammation with clots, and the clots kill people? That would mean anticoagulants could save lives.

Maybe you should tell people that or maybe you should pull your head out of your ass and see that doctors who are actually advocating for treatment of Covid with anticoagulants are getting banned from Twitter and youtube.

Covid is an acute illness. Acute illness increases risk of thromboembolism, and Covid especially so. This is well recognized all over the medical literature. Prophylactic doses of anticoagulants is now part of the regimen of standard of care and you are utterly misinformed. So don't confuse your political ideology with medical facts, and stop with your facial love affair with your rectum. First go look up your facts, it would be a first step in that monumental effort.

[Fun Luvr]

JjBirdBrain again illustrates his lack of understanding English grammar. RamDavidson64 stated "95% of people who are at risk of being hospitalized from covid are fully vaccinated." JjBB says "Just a couple of statistics which are different from your 95% claim." and uses five paragraphs to describe the percentage of people hospitalized who are not vaccinated. It appears he thinks everyone who is at risk of being hospitalized has actually been hospitalized. His numbers don't address the statement made by RD64.

According to the CDC website, "Some people may be at higher risk of severe illness. This includes older adults (65 years and older) and people of any age with serious underlying medical conditions." They don't mention hospitalization, but probably people with a severe illness will be hospitalized. They also state that 95% of those 65 and over have one shot of the vaccine, 90.28% of those 65 to 74 and 84.75% of those 75 and up are fully vaccinated. I can't find any data for those with serious underlying medical conditions. I think RD64 overstated the percentage a little, but in the ballpark.

[JjBee62]

Hahahhahahahha.

And the covid cultist shows his true colors. They always do. Grossly misinformed, or just lacking logic. Emotional thinking really is a bee-otch.

You're still working hard to be an idiot I see. Got to do what you're good at.

How many people have died in the past 2 years from:

1. Ebola - 61.

2. AIDS -. About 1.4 million.

3. COVID - 5 million.

How do you avoid catching:

1. Ebola. Don't visit a place where there is a current outbreak.

2. AIDS. Don't be an IV drug user. If you are an IV drug user, always use a clean needle. Don't let men fuck you in the ass. If you insist on letting men fuck you in the ass, make them use a condom.

3. Covid. Other than complete isolation from all other people there is no known way to prevent being infected with Covid. Every measure only reduces the risk. None of them remove the risk.

I don't expect you to understand that, because you continuously demonstrate you lack the capacity to understand anything. If they ever give out an "Idiot of ISG" award I'm sure you'll get the recognition you deserve.

[JjBee62]

Nothing personal against you but I can't take anyone seriously who claims COVID is worse than Ebola.

Ebola has a 50% death rate on average and it has gotten as high as 90% dead in past outbreaks.

No sane person would choose Ebola or AIDS over COVID and I think you probably know that.

Regarding the ladies. I am not their dad. They are adults.

If I am stuck in Colombia but feeling fine and getting Messaged every 30 minutes I will definitely be honest about the situation but I WON'T parent the adult female. Her choice is her own.

If I start to feel sick (symptomatic) or if I already know she lives with a bunch of older relatives or ESPECIALLY if she is unvaccinated then that would be an automatic no..

I'm sorry you're unable to understand. It's quite simple.

Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathy is a class of communicable disease which is incurable and 100% fatal. It's the deadliest disease, by Case Fatality Ratio (CFR) known. Yet, you've probably never heard of it. The reason is because there are only a small number of cases each it's not worse than COVID because it only affects less than 10,000 people per year, worldwide. Compare that to 35,000 new cases of Covid yesterday just in Colombia.

Now look at Ebola. In 20#0 and 2021 there were 141 cases of Ebola with 61 deaths. Over the same period there were over 300 million cases of Covid with more than 5 million deaths.

There's no doubt Ebola is a terrible disease if you get it, but unless you live or work in the areas in Africa where it has shown up, your chances of getting infected are just about zero. There is also no asymptomatic transmission of Ebola. Unless you're actually sick with Ebola, in which case you wouldn't consider inviting girls over, you aren't going to infect another person. That's one of the reasons keeping Ebola from becoming a pandemic.

Nobody chooses to get Ebola, AIDS or Covid. So making the argument that someone would choose one over another is silly. It comes down to risk. Unless you want to go mongering in the middle of an Ebola outbreak your chance of getting and passing on Ebola is zero. Unless you're an IV drug user, sharing needles, or you're giving and receiving unprotected anal sex your risk of getting or giving AIDS is almost zero.

Your risk of getting infected with Covid is perhaps 20% or more, with possibly the same chance of passing it on to any girls you see.

Do you understand now? You can avoid Ebola by staying out of the areas of Africa where there is an Ebola outbreak. You can avoid AIDS by not being an IV drug user, or by always using a clean needle and by not letting a bunch of men fuck you in the ass without using condoms. You can completely avoid those 2 diseases by doing absolutely nothing. No mask, vaccine or social distancing required. How do you avoid Covid?

Regarding the ladies, that's your decision. Well, assuming you have already decided not to inform the hotel or apartment management that you tested positive and are complying with the legally required quarantine, it's your choice.

If you inform the hotel you're possibly not going to have the option to invite girls over. The hotel probably won't let them in. If one of them manages to get in, you might end up finishing your quarantine and then getting escorted to the airport to end your last visit to Colombia.

There are plenty of ways to look at it. The easiest way is to decide you wouldn't knowingly put another person at risk, once you know you're infected. That one is simple and avoids any other issues.

At the other end of the spectrum is that you would rather risk being banned from Colombia l, than go 10-14 days without getting laid.

[JohnnyWalker55]

It isn't AIDS or Ebola. It's worse.

Hahahhahahahha.

And the covid cultist shows his true colors. They always do. Grossly misinformed, or just lacking logic. Emotional thinking really is a bee-otch.

[Lou32]

I agree. Its an argument that has not been thought through very cafrefully to its logical conclusions. It doesn't have to be even one hour later. You could actually test negative and ALREADY have it! - whether from inaccurate test results, or bcos you just caught it very recently. Everyone is a risk. And those that have weak immune systems are the greatet risk. These people should stay at home! Hehe.

If one wants to eliminate all possible risk to other people at all possible times, we should all stay home and watch internet porn. There is an element of risk in every action we take. We should all accept that as reality and stop pretending that there isn't.

Yep.

By now, entering year three, it should be obvious that if you aren't elderly, obese, have some sort of lung or blood condition and are unvaccinated then your chance of ending up in a hospital bed due to COVID is slightly greater than that of influenza. Slightly.

Is it serious? Yep.

Is it uniformly a disease that will send you to the hospital? Not even close.

[Elvis 2008]

It's just a cover for Biden's failure to control the virus like he promised. To be fair, there is probably no solution to the virus, it's a force of nature we can't control at this point or ever most likely. Biden should focus on treatments and fixing the insane inflation and horrific supply chain demands which are destroying the greatest economy to ever exist. Put the politics aside and do what is right for the people who are busting their ass to pay taxes to the government and get us out of this historic tragedy. People need to unite, forgive, and learn to cooperate again.

LOL. This is funny and smart Ram. My passport was out of pages and for some fucked up reason if you want a passport ASAP you have to go to a passport center. The appointments are very limited, and I had to fly to El Paso to get it done.

The agency people were nice and said they would have them that day. Hours are 10 to 3 PM but the staff stayed two hours late and got us our passports. I am not sure why it took so long, but I was grateful the staff stayed and got it done. Anyway, there were five of us in the room and we did something unusual. We put down our phones and talked.

There were two women, one Hispanic and one white who were both Republicans. Three men who were Republican leaning independents, two white and one black. What was interesting to me was these were can do people. They are all world travelers who knew it was rough getting a passport but were determined to get one.

The supreme court decision was reached that day and all of us were pleased. Everyone was vaccinated, but we all hated mandates. We thought ruining the economy for Covid was stupid. We were anti the deep state and concerned the Constitution was being over run. We all thought Biden was doing a horrible job. It was not a Republican love fest. The men made certain to proclaim their independence and lack of party.

I am a lot harder on the Dems here because they bring their toxic shit to this forum. I know the Republican retards are just as bad but they stay quiet, and I have voted Democrat before.

Anyway, there was no overt partisanship, and I felt after sharing with those people we all had a bond. It was wonderful to find four like minded people, and I will tell you this. I think the five of us, the can do people there, could have solved almost any problem the world threw at us. I really do. It is funny how that partisanship has gotten people so angry with each other they no longer trust one another but the truth is that if we get good people together like you say and unite, most of the world's problems would be solved.