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  1. #29500
    As a side note, many people, locals, expats, and foreigners all say that colombian spanish it the easiest to listen to, speak, and learn from. There are many europeans and gringos that come to Colombia for that reason. Yes, their motivation is to learn spanish properly. And many of them are in Medellin.

    Just my 2 centavos.

  2. #29499

    No.

    I agree with Tall Man here- They know and they are no saints at all. They are greedy and careless! I have met so many that I can say that 50-75% would happily take all of your money and leave you to die and being completely indifferent what happens to you! That is reality. They a choice; to work hard for little money in Medellin in a common service job earning less than a million pesos a month working +55 hs / week, or make a lot of money in dollar-economies like Panama, Aruba, St Marteen, Bahamas Islands. Etc. I was friend with a girl who was awesome and started as prepago the day she turned 18 and quickly moved to St Marteen and has been making a small fortune since, also supporting her family in Medellin. They don't care about moral, they are like us. We happily pay for sex and they happily get paid.

  3. #29498
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTallMan  [View Original Post]
    I can't disagree with anything you said, all true.

    I say this as I sit in my apartment this morning with 2 chicas in my apartment in the bedrooms that my amigo and I picked up from el centro last night, one is a venie and the other a costena, the castena chica is my girl and the venie is my buddies, we know both girls really well, all 3 of them are still asleep, we typically give about 80 to 130 mil for the night, plus we are both really cool guys and also had something to eat last night and some smokes and drinks.

    Yes I do believe and know for a certainty that the venies are creating a big problem for the market, but within reason as I have yet to find a venie (Vz chica) who is fresh and cute and willing to have sex for 15 mil, this is just not out there or what I heard when I was in Cucuta a few weeks ago which is "the venies are selling sex in park mercedes for 5 mil", again not so.

    All is good, life goes on.

    The Tall Man.
    I concur with you Tall Man, the cute Vz Chicas will not go for 15 K as they know they can get more than the plain jane Chicas on the streets. There are so many Vzs out there right now. Every day I see more and more of them in El Centro and they outnumber the Colombians in the Park opposite the Museum. They also all congregate in groups of two to six girls. So many of them, yet many very pudgy, etc. I will not approach a girl in a group as I do not want their friends to hear what's being said. I'm always on the lookout for loners in El Centro. Another thing I have noticed is that the Vz Spanish is easier to understand than the Colombian Spanish. Some of them are very well educated which can be refreshing compared to some of the Colombians.

    Stay safe and fly under the radar in El Centro, a definite playground for some for us!

  4. #29497
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    I don't know how you can compare Cucuta to Medellin in regards to street pricing for Vzs. I have been in El Centro every day usually twice a day for the past month and have encountered and observed the following. I have seen on three different occasions a very fat hooker on the street beside the church yelling out full service sex for 10 K. I would not get near here with a ten foot pole. Lots of sacaleros (glue sniffers) will go for just about anything because there so high they don't know which way is up. Yesterday I interviewed a cute little thing but when I got close up, the stench of the glue was to much so I bailed. Lots and lots of plain jane girls go for 20 K in El Centro. That's the price usually quoted to the locals for the plain janes with the pricing going up to 30 K for the prettier ones. Believe it or not, the Colombians are being undercut by the Vzs in Medellin as I have been told by my regulars and they are pissed off about it as it is hurting their survival. These are regulars I have known for over a year, so it's not something I heard from one individual once. So if a local can get a Colombian for 20 K, and I can get that price, why is it so hard to believe that a Vz would go for less. The Vzs are all over Medellin literally begging for money. They are up and down Calle 10 in Poblado, at Metro Stations, in front of EXITO's, and in parks with signs begging and its very sad. I'm sure there are some other vets with EL Centro experience which can confirm what I am saying.
    I can't disagree with anything you said, all true.

    I say this as I sit in my apartment this morning with 2 chicas in my apartment in the bedrooms that my amigo and I picked up from el centro last night, one is a venie and the other a costena, the castena chica is my girl and the venie is my buddies, we know both girls really well, all 3 of them are still asleep, we typically give about 80 to 130 mil for the night, plus we are both really cool guys and also had something to eat last night and some smokes and drinks.

    Yes I do believe and know for a certainty that the venies are creating a big problem for the market, but within reason as I have yet to find a venie (Vz chica) who is fresh and cute and willing to have sex for 15 mil, this is just not out there or what I heard when I was in Cucuta a few weeks ago which is "the venies are selling sex in park mercedes for 5 mil", again not so.

    All is good, life goes on.

    The Tall Man.

  5. #29496
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Then you have the ones that are all surgeried up that you can tell were not planning to be anyone's nanny!
    I've friended a lot of hookers over the years, including a valedictorian of a university, and every one had qualities that gravitated them to sex work.

  6. #29495

    Colombia vs Panama.

    Fellow mongers,

    I just returned from my third trip to Panama City. Part business and part mongering. I find that there is extraordinary talent in many places in the City (Habanos, Ocean Sun casino, etc). However, I'm considering a trip to either Medellin, Cali or Bogata to check out the scene. Any advice? Any preference of cities for most efficient mongering and best talent? Thanks in advance.

  7. #29494
    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    Dunno what year that was, but if you allow for inflation, not much has changed.
    True that. But the quality was so much better back then. Now you go to the Centro casas you got 4-7's and with attitudes. LOL.

  8. #29493
    Quote Originally Posted by Dcfan77  [View Original Post]
    Funny you say that. When I first started mongering I went to Costa Rica. Jaco and San Jos to be exact. In Jaco almost all the providers were Colombianas. All hot and sexy. When I started asking what part of Colombia they were from. They all said Medellin. Mmmm. I was like let me go to the source. Later that year I took my first trip to Medellin. Back when the Casas were charging 30 k. Most of the casas had 8 - 10 stunners. Now how times have changed.
    Dunno what year that was, but if you allow for inflation, not much has changed.

  9. #29492

    Hey, me three!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dcfan77  [View Original Post]
    Funny you say that. When I first started mongering I went to Costa Rica. Jaco and San Jos to be exact. In Jaco almost all the providers were Colombianas. All hot and sexy. When I started asking what part of Colombia they were from. They all said Medellin. Mmmm. I was like let me go to the source. Later that year I took my first trip to Medellin. Back when the Casas were charging 30 k. Most of the casas had 8 - 10 stunners. Now how times have changed.
    Back in '07 I posted on this Forum for the first time with basically the same story. A fellow monger, "Lost in Paradise", posted in the Costa Rica Forum about how Great Colombia is, he was right. I've since been back to Medellin a handful of times, having the best of times, posting when I thought I had something to add. I'll be back in Nov. Or Dec.

    Although I still love Medellin, I wonder where the next Medellin is. I was hoping that Cucuta was it but it just doesn't seem like it.

  10. #29491
    Quote Originally Posted by YippieKayay  [View Original Post]
    You mean Panama City and Costa Rica where they all get trafficked to.
    Not what I meant at all. CR, for instance, has always been a drop in the bucket relative to Colombia. Meanwhile, Lleras/Poblado and online have grown exponentially. From what I understand, the Del Rey has fallen off. Perhaps this is partly because the girls can make more money here locally than b4 if they hit the online and Poblado mongers from places like the USA.

  11. #29490
    Quote Originally Posted by HotelAl  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the info. I live in Hoston and the flight was long (8-9 hrs) and the airfare was getting really expensive. With the closing of Help disco, it kind of made me decide to take a break from Rio. I started going to Costa Rica, it was closer (3. 5 hrs) and cheaper. I saw a lot of ladies and did have a good time, but now I am bored and might be looking at Colombia. I like Monterrey, but the airfare can get expensive (1 HR flight). Funny thing, while I was waiting for a flight from San Jose I was on a gate next to a flight going to Bogota. Wow I saw nothing but beautiful women! I will be looking at a trip to Colombia soon.
    Wow, I can definitely relate. Flying out of Houston to Mexico is so expensive, now. I also live here, hate the city, but love the money. I just work here, play golf, I do not go out at all in Houston anymore. I save my money go away to party and bang girls, good life. Work hard, play harder. I would also be spending more time in MTY or GDL, but I will not spend $800, (for 1 hour flight) to fly there, this is just insane. In the winter I could fly to Moscow cheaper then I could fly to Mexico or Colombia. You can still fly fairly to cheap to LA or San Diego, the, go to Tijuana.

    As I mentioned I did not like Rio at all, Col. Is much better, but I can not handle how jealous the girls get, bad food, and the rain. I love Moscow, Mexico and Europe for girls, also I am not into big or fake asses, so that is another reason I am not into either Rio or Col. Not sure I would like Costa Rica, I am afraid I would run into a lot of people from Houston and honestly I try to avoid them.

    Nice report, good luck.

  12. #29489
    Quote Originally Posted by Dcfan77  [View Original Post]
    Funny you say that. When I first started mongering I went to Costa Rica. Jaco and San Jos to be exact. In Jaco almost all the providers were Colombianas. All hot and sexy. When I started asking what part of Colombia they were from. They all said Medellin. Mmmm. I was like let me go to the source. Later that year I took my first trip to Medellin. Back when the Casas were charging 30 k. Most of the casas had 8 - 10 stunners. Now how times have changed.
    Funny you say that. Although it was not when I first started mongering, that was many moons ago in Germany but when I first started going to central and south america, I went to San Jose first. Second trip I went to San Jose and Jaco and I was hooked. Same as you, me and my wingman spent all our time chasing and searching for Colombian girls, as they were the most GFE and best looking.

    As the gulch became gringo-ized and Jaco prices went crazy, we started to look at our options. The entire monger scene there got Americanized, the transport, the tourism and the mongering all became inflated and generic. You are hard pressed to find any GFE in Jaco these days. There some jems if you work for it but for the most part, the entire scene is mechanical.

    So duh, lets go to the source. Found out flights are the same or cheaper than CR. The lodging is cheaper, the transportation in country is cheaper and the mongering is 100 X better. GFE a plenty, non pros and college girls are off the chain and some of the most sexy women I have ever seen and I have traveled extensively. I find Colombian women on the whole but to be straight shooters and honest people in their hearts. There are always a bad apple but it certainly has not contaminated the bushel as far as I am concerned. Maybe I just been lucky.

    I'm still a sucker for eastern European blondes but the light skinned women of Colombia give me a raging hard on.

    I am going to trade up and marry one some day, I just know it.

  13. #29488

    This is true.

    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    I don't know how you can compare Cucuta to Medellin in regards to street pricing for Vzs. I have been in El Centro every day usually twice a day for the past month and have encountered and observed the following. I have seen on three different occasions a very fat hooker on the street beside the church yelling out full service sex for 10 K. I would not get near here with a ten foot pole. Lots of sacaleros (glue sniffers) will go for just about anything because there so high they don't know which way is up. Yesterday I interviewed a cute little thing but when I got close up, the stench of the glue was to much so I bailed. Lots and lots of plain jane girls go for 20 K in El Centro. That's the price usually quoted to the locals for the plain janes with the pricing going up to 30 K for the prettier ones. Believe it or not, the Colombians are being undercut by the Vzs in Medellin as I have been told by my regulars and they are pissed off about it as it is hurting their survival. These are regulars I have known for over a year, so it's not something I heard from one individual once. So if a local can get a Colombian for 20 K, and I can get that price, why is it so hard to believe that a Vz would go for less. The Vzs are all over Medellin literally begging for money. They are up and down Calle 10 in Poblado, at Metro Stations, in front of EXITO's, and in parks with signs begging and its very sad. I'm sure there are some other vets with EL Centro experience which can confirm what I am saying.
    And they work in groups. There are some very pretty ones in the parque.

    Botero and if you like them dark, tall, and with braids, you can't miss this group. The more time I spent in the park and near the church, the prices got cheaper and cheaper. So yes I believe the Vz are causing a down price in Centro! I will return at the end of May, but Bogota gets most of my time next trip. I like what I saw in Santa Fe! Pollo negro is out!

  14. #29487
    Quote Originally Posted by Dcfan77  [View Original Post]
    Back when the Casas were charging 30 k. Most of the casas had 8 - 10 stunners. Now how times have changed.
    The good old days before chicas had the option to make 100 times more online and in Lleras LOL.

  15. #29486
    Quote Originally Posted by HotelAl  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the info. I live in Hoston and the flight was long (8-9 hrs) and the airfare was getting really expensive. With the closing of Help disco, it kind of made me decide to take a break from Rio. I started going to Costa Rica, it was closer (3. 5 hrs) and cheaper. I saw a lot of ladies and did have a good time, but now I am bored and might be looking at Colombia. I like Monterrey, but the airfare can get expensive (1 HR flight). Funny thing, while I was waiting for a flight from San Jose I was on a gate next to a flight going to Bogota. Wow I saw nothing but beautiful women! I will be looking at a trip to Colombia soon.
    Funny you say that. When I first started mongering I went to Costa Rica. Jaco and San José to be exact. In Jaco almost all the providers were Colombianas. All hot and sexy. When I started asking what part of Colombia they were from. They all said Medellin. Mmmm. I was like let me go to the source. Later that year I took my first trip to Medellin. Back when the Casas were charging 30 k. Most of the casas had 8 - 10 stunners. Now how times have changed.

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