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  1. #2035

    Nice Try but no Cigar

    Quote Originally Posted by ShooBree  [View Original Post]
    This is laughable, around 30% of the population in Sweden are immigrants or children of immigrants while in Finland it's closer to 5%. Good luck finding any Swede to agree with you that Sweden is "genetically homogenous".
    Well, I'll give you props for doing your homework. You're still wrong, mind you but you did show some modest intelligence by trying to do your research. Here is the problem in what you came up with:

    Yes, Sweden does have about 30% of its population having come from other countries but of that 30% (something close to 10% (1/3 of the 30% came from Norway, Denmark and Finland. And then some more came from Germany too. The largest historical group of immigrants are from Finland. In other words your 30% is greatly exaggerated. AND a number of the immigrants that did come to Sweden over the years, intermarried and assimilated which means that although you may have Swedes with one immigrant parent they still possess genetic characteristic of the general Swedish population.

  2. #2034
    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    There are actually 2 different billions (a thousand million, or a million million), so both of you are right in a way. But both are wrong in a way too.
    And he's off by a factor of a hundred, not by a factor of a thousand. People who don't understand numbers should not be allowed to use them for anything.

  3. #2033
    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    There are actually 2 different billions (a thousand million, or a million million), so both of you are right in a way. But both are wrong in a way too.
    Possibly in your native language but certainly not in English, where a million million is a trillion. Now let's get back to you being completely full of shit about what that study you posted meant.

  4. #2032

    Seriously Dude

    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    There are actually 2 different billions (a thousand million, or a million million), so both of you are right in a way. But both are wrong in a way too.

    Excelss deaths show that 11.7 miilions may have died from COVID. So out out 7. 753 billion (using short scale), that's 0. 15%, or 1,500 deaths per million (which is the common stat expression).
    You don't know what you are talking about. A million million? We call that a Trillion not a Billion. You aren't smart enough to take the vaccine and now you want to wade into a statistical discussion?

    Seriously dude? Come back when you can pass a grade school math equivalency test.

  5. #2031

    Elvis School of Analysis

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    As for the vaccine preventing transmission, that is not only obvious from the data, the CDC has come out and said the vaccine does not prevent transmission, so again I do not know what the fuck you are talking about.
    Oh dear. Let's try this in a simple way so that even Elvis can grasp the concept.

    The vaccine doesn't prevent transmission. But stay with me for just a few more seconds. What does the vaccine do? It makes it a lot less likely you will get CoVid in the first place. And if you do get a breakthrough case of CoVid you are a lot less likely to have severe consequences. Stick with the first part. The vaccine makes it a whole lot less likely that you will be infected with CoVid. So take two groups. One group is vaccinated and the other group isn't. Which group will more likely get infections? See'Mon. Elvis you can get this one right. It is binary, so you are 50-50. Answer: The unvaccinated group is more likely to get infected. By extension (simple arithmetic) more members of the unvaccinated group are likely to get infected with CoVid than from the vaccinated group. Now we get to the next part. If the unvaccinated group has a lot more people infected than the vaccinated group. Isn't the unvaccinated group much more likely to pass along the virus to family members or other members they come in contact with? (For Elvis: That was a rhetorical question. The answer would be obvious to any 3rd grader.).

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    The number of USA cases recorded is 47 million. CDC estimates put it at around 100 million. Again, you are attributing their number to me.
    I'm using the 47 million reported on Worldometer. You constantly banter that the CDC can't be trusted, can't be believed, lack competence etc etc etc but you choose to use their number when it suits your purposes. Isn't that the classic example of shopping around for a number you like for your argument. Pick a number here, pick one there, Pick one on aisle 3. C'mon. Elvis try to be consistent.

  6. #2030
    Quote Originally Posted by Villainy  [View Original Post]
    People who are unable to perform basic math (and not to name names but there are several on here. Just read more of this thread) usually feel statistics are bogus. Mostly because they don't understand them. Science largely uses statistics to analyze and evaluate events. Of course if the inputs are flawed so are the statistics. But in time more inputs are available and eventually the statistics accurately reflect reality.
    Fascinating! So you think that 5 million of 8 billion was. . 000625% (which, of course, most 3 graders would tell you is not correct).
    https://www.calculator.net/percent-calculator.html I'm linking a percent calculator to help you out in the future.
    But the correct percentage would be: 0. 0625%.
    There are actually 2 different billions (a thousand million, or a million million), so both of you are right in a way. But both are wrong in a way too.

    Excelss deaths show that 11.7 miilions may have died from COVID. So out out 7. 753 billion (using short scale), that's 0. 15%, or 1,500 deaths per million (which is the common stat expression).

  7. #2029

    5 billion % sure

    The USA and the civilized world have different definitions of billion.

    Inferential statistics has type 1 and type 11 errors. Descriptive statistics are just that.

    Pic 1 is a famous book (in the civilized world).

    Pic 2, Dalia Dippolito, is a famous hooker (in the USA jungle), who was 500% sure she wanted a hit man to off her working girl loving hubby. Here are her prison details. Write to her. She'll be out in 2031, so less than 10 years to wait.

    Quote Originally Posted by Villainy  [View Original Post]
    People who are unable to perform basic math (and not to name names but there are several on here. Just read more of this thread) usually feel statistics are bogus. Mostly because they don't understand them. Science largely uses statistics to analyze and evaluate events. Of course if the inputs are flawed so are the statistics. But in time more inputs are available and eventually the statistics accurately reflect reality.

    Fascinating! So you think that 5 million of 8 billion was. . 000625% (which, of course, most 3 graders would tell you is not correct).

    https://www.calculator.net/percent-calculator.html I'm linking a percent calculator to help you out in the future.

    But the correct percentage would be: 0. 0625%.
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  8. #2028
    Quote Originally Posted by Villainy  [View Original Post]
    People who are unable to perform basic math (and not to name names but there are several on here. Just read more of this thread) usually feel statistics are bogus. Mostly because they don't understand them. Science largely uses statistics to analyze and evaluate events. Of course if the inputs are flawed so are the statistics. But in time more inputs are available and eventually the statistics accurately reflect reality.

    Fascinating! So you think that 5 million of 8 billion was. . 000625% (which, of course, most 3 graders would tell you is not correct).

    https://www.calculator.net/percent-calculator.html I'm linking a percent calculator to help you out in the future.

    But the correct percentage would be: 0. 0625%.
    And you tried to brag about being civil and not name calling? And you equate an incorrect mathematical solution to me?

    Who gives a fuck about 0.0625 and 0.00625%? His point, which is correct, is the risk of Covid has been greatly exaggerated.

    Is there any point in this point outside of you being a patronizing bragging dick which is the same with all your posts?

    I guess the reason you have to pay for women is they are unimpressed by your math skills.

    You are on ignore douche.

  9. #2027
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    That was simple enough. Now brace for his 8 paragraph rebuttal of my 2 sentences worth of encounter.
    Oh yeah, there will be that five wagers, an IQ challenge, about 10 false analogies, and a lecture on why 0.06% is different than 0.0006%.

  10. #2026
    Quote Originally Posted by Villainy  [View Original Post]
    People who are unable to perform basic math (and not to name names but there are several on here. Just read more of this thread) usually feel statistics are bogus. Mostly because they don't understand them. Science largely uses statistics to analyze and evaluate events. Of course if the inputs are flawed so are the statistics. But in time more inputs are available and eventually the statistics accurately reflect reality.

    Fascinating! So you think that 5 million of 8 billion was. . 000625% (which, of course, most 3 graders would tell you is not correct).

    https://www.calculator.net/percent-calculator.html I'm linking a percent calculator to help you out in the future.

    But the correct percentage would be: 0. 0625%.
    It looks like another one doesn't understand studies or statistics. It's funny because so much of everyone's everyday life is based on statistics.

    Upgrades to roads, water systems, sewage systems, the electric grid are all ruled by statistics. Which crops are planted, which seed strains, which herbicides and pesticides and when to plant, apply pesticides, herbicides and fertilizer, along with when to harvest, statistics all the way.

    Whether to build a new hospital, or expand an existing one, how many ambulance and firetrucks, how many police officers, all is based on statistics. Add to that, where to build pharmacies, grocery stores, hardware stores, restaurants and clubs and without statistics the entire infrastructure is fucked.

    And let's not forget that any type of insurance is 100% statistics. Without statistics civilization collapses.

    Studies on the other hand. Yes you can do a study and get whatever results you want. Absolutely. Undeniably. Just like you can claim that you can knock out anyone with a single punch.

    That's when the truth comes out. My favorite example because it ties in so nicely with the 79 Club (my new classification for all the idiots who argue against vaccines, 79 represents their median IQ), is Andrew Wakefield and his study which showed the existing MMR vaccine causes autism. Almost immediately after publication doctors began questioning his data and his methodology. Ironically his study was published in "The Lancet", which eventually fully retracted the study. As a result his right to practice medicine was revoked and now he's just another 79 Clubber.

    As you well know, but several obviously don't, no study is complete until it passes peer review. The findings need to be duplicated, the methodology needs to be confirmed. If it can't be confirmed it gets tossed aside.

    Just like the "I can kick anyone's ass" crowd. It looks good on paper until you're toe to toe with someone who has been a boxer for 30 years.

  11. #2025
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Yeah man. All that BS started to make my head hurt.

    And 2 hours ago I did ask the immigration shift supervisor in Bogota about searching electronics. She said the authorities in any airport in the world and law enforcement have the right to search electronics under the guise of preventing terrorism.

    I asked what if the phone is locked and the person will not unlock it. She said then they go get the police to get it unlocked. Then I had a JB moment acting like those answers were not good enough, and kept saying but and trying to ask more questions about it. She said, "Get the hell out of here, I have already answered your question." Then she walked off.

    That was simple enough. Now brace for his 8 paragraph rebuttal of my 2 sentences worth of encounter.
    1. People unable to handle basic math seems to be the theme today. I count 5 sentences worth of encounter.

    2. I recall you claimed it's not legal for them to ask you to unlock your phone.

    3. I recall you claimed they couldn't detain you for refusing to unlock your phone.

    4. I also recall I stated that they have the legal authority to unlock your phone and to detain you if you refuse.

    5. I also recall stating that in any country in the world, unless such a search has been specifically prohibited under any circumstances, such a search is legal.

    6. Bear with me. I'm trying to stretch it to 8 paragraphs so that you will have been right about 1 thing, no matter how inconsequential.

    7. I certainly understand how it would make your head hurt. When proof that you are completely clueless, about something you tried to pass as an expert on, is right there for everyone to read Cognitive dissonance can cause headaches.

    8. Now that you've proven yourself wrong on every count and claimed victory, I sure hope you still have plenty of hot sauce left, because eating crow is easier with some seasoning.

  12. #2024
    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    Wah, wah, wah, Sry JB I cant hear u. I am not going to waste my time chatting w someone who cannot maintain a reasonable and friendly tone.
    I understand completely. I have the same issue with hypocrisy as you have with having your incapacities pointed out.

    Claiming people from the US can only resort to insults when they disagree is a reasonable and friendly tone? The majority of the posters are from the US, most disagree from time to time and most drop the matter before it devolves into insults. I don't belong in that group. If someone repeats their idiocy 3 times, there's no benefit to not point it out. And when their tone from the beginning is insulting, at some point I will respond in like manner.

    Claiming that the COVID vaccine causes Dunning Kruger is a reasonable and friendly tone? Perhaps where you're from "reasonable" and "friendly" have different meanings.

    Saying someone disagrees with something after they clearly agreed with it is reasonable and friendly? Misrepresenting a study to agree with your bias is reasonable and friendly? Lying about not reading something and then responding falsely to what you claimed to have not read is reasonable and friendly?

    Your hypocrisy and lack of integrity has been confirmed.

    For everyone else:

    I think it was 1998, the day after Thanksgiving, I had a couple of small households of furniture to deliver in the Los Angeles area. I know it was the day after Thanksgiving, because I had forgotten to arrange some laborers in advance.

    I had spent Thanksgiving with 2 women I knew in Chino Hills. They had a big house with room to park my truck. One of the women had owned a large contracting company with her ex, which was how she could afford the big house. The other was a Hollywood insider, worked as a personal assistant to some of the biggest stars. She drove a new Mercedes SL, had a closet full of furs and designer dresses, and dated one of the biggest producers. As a result of my friendship with her, for a few years I had the personal phone numbers, addresses and email accounts of literally every actor, director, producer, agent, etc in Hollywood. In a few of my more shameful moments I considered how much it might be worth, but eventually I wiped that hard drive.

    I was joking around about putting them to work for me moving furniture and the Hollywood girl said it sounded like fun. So I ended up Van Nuys with a 40 year old debutante as my lumper. The last place we were delivering to I had to park the truck in the alley, blocking it. However, there were ways to easily get around my truck.

    About halfway through unloading some chunky, mid 20's woman pulls up in a 10-12 year old Volvo and starts blowing her horn. I go to talk to her and she starts ranting about moving my truck. I was calm and polite, and told her I would be there at least another hour. I then pointed out 2 options which would quickly take her around my truck.

    This achieved what I will now call the JustTK response. She began screaming about her importance, about her father, the Chief of Police, about how much trouble I was going to be in, just the typical irrational tantrum exhibited when spoiled brats don't get their way.

    I remained polite and told her if she was in a hurry she should take 1 of the 2 options available, otherwise she would be sitting there for an hour.

    We went back to work and she alternated between honking her horn and screaming out the window. After another 10 minutes had passed she decided to fake call the police. She holds her phone up to her ear and starts talking as loudly as possible. She described me in an inaccurate and unflattering manner and claimed I had threatened her. Then she got to my friend who she called my "fat, ugly white trash girlfriend. ".

    As I noted previously, my friend was definitely not white trash. She also weighed half as much as the woman who was calling her fat. It's possible the woman was reasonably attractive, but with her mouth open she was a troll. However, my friend was clearly the winner in the looks department.

    After her fake phone call, she yelled that the police were coming to throw me in jail. I just laughed and kept working. However, my friend decided she was tired of listening to the bullshit and walked up to her car. The window was quickly rolled up and doors locked. Diane just calmly said "you need to leave. " That's when the woman went full JustTK.

    She cranked up her radio, stuck her fingers in her ears and said "I can't hear you. ".
    Diane leaned over to look straight in the windshield and said "read my lips. You need to leave right now. " She spun her tires backing up and took off like her ass was on fire.

    About 10 minutes later 4 skater punks come walking across the alley. I'm thinking I'll have to deal with more self-important delusional assholes. Nope. They were just gushing with how awesome we were and how the woman treated everyone that way. They had brought me a case of beer as thanks. I told them I couldn't accept the beer, but I had an idea. I handed them a $20 and told them to call their friends, buy more beer and throw a party telling the story.

    Somewhere in the LA basin there are some 50 year old guys who probably still tell that story.

    It's been a long time since I thought of that story, but seeing someone figuratively sticking their fingers in their ears and typing "I can't hear you" on a message board, well it's hard not to make the connection.

  13. #2023
    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    Wah, wah, wah, Sry JB I cant hear u. I am not going to waste my time chatting w someone who cannot maintain a reasonable and friendly tone.
    Yeah man. All that BS started to make my head hurt.

    And 2 hours ago I did ask the immigration shift supervisor in Bogota about searching electronics. She said the authorities in any airport in the world and law enforcement have the right to search electronics under the guise of preventing terrorism.

    I asked what if the phone is locked and the person will not unlock it. She said then they go get the police to get it unlocked. Then I had a JB moment acting like those answers were not good enough, and kept saying but and trying to ask more questions about it. She said, "Get the hell out of here, I have already answered your question." Then she walked off.

    That was simple enough. Now brace for his 8 paragraph rebuttal of my 2 sentences worth of encounter.

  14. #2022
    Elvis needs to open his fly just to count to eleven. Or ten and a half, anyway.

  15. #2021

    Math from the Elvis School

    Quote Originally Posted by LoveItHere69  [View Original Post]
    ...Studies are stupid like statistics. You can get any result that you want out of them. Every 10 years there is a new study such as coffee is good for you, then bad for you going on for the last 40 years. Same with wine, beer, chocolate, and even aspirin.
    People who are unable to perform basic math (and not to name names but there are several on here. Just read more of this thread) usually feel statistics are bogus. Mostly because they don't understand them. Science largely uses statistics to analyze and evaluate events. Of course if the inputs are flawed so are the statistics. But in time more inputs are available and eventually the statistics accurately reflect reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by LoveItHere69  [View Original Post]
    Fake news states that 5 million people have died. Out of 8 billion people that means the death rate is a huge whopping .000625% For this we have destroyed entire economies and peoples ways of life. Supply chain issues and lack of personal and government money to hand out will cause many of the starving people worldwide to receive even less food supplies this year and easily the next year. Their death rate could surpass the COVID death rate.

    November 3 2021 CDC Covid ratings 1 low, 2 moderate, 3 high, 4 very high.

    USA 4 very high.

    Colombia 2 moderate..
    Fascinating! So you think that 5 million of 8 billion was. . 000625% (which, of course, most 3 graders would tell you is not correct).

    https://www.calculator.net/percent-calculator.html I'm linking a percent calculator to help you out in the future.

    But the correct percentage would be: 0. 0625%.

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