Rio de Janeiro Reports

[HotDino]

Ok, so it is that time of the year ago. Prices keep going up, addresses change and some places simply fade away. So in January I believe an update is due!

If anyone has any suggestions or has picked up any mistakes in the previous report please PM (Private message) me.

Hi I will go in Mai to Mariana-joinville and Rio do yoiu have adresses of massageparlours with prices etc. Thanks it will be my firts visit

Hotdino

[Bubba Boy]

As for inviting Terma girls over for paid sex, I don't think it's as bad as you say. That was my mo When I first came to Rio and it has worked well over the years. When they come over, I would just treat them as a normal person. We would chill and watch tv or go get something to eat at one of those Sucos bars before doing anything. Then they just realize,"this guy's pretty ok. Not the sicko pervert that I thought." Ha. This would result in hanging out on other days without mention of the P4P. I think it really comes down to how she perceives you after being with you outside of her element (the terma). Of course, it would be better if you could just say "Hey, want to go to the beach tomorrow" and they all say yes. Keep in mind, they are working girls and most need some kind of motivation ($$$) to see a customer outside of her work. Hell, if I were a terma girl and had a choice between sleeping in until 1 pm or having to get up early to hang out with a customer at the beach, I'd take the sleep time. LOL.

That works as well, a lot of these girls have been thoroughly abused, so if you treat them decently, they are more than willingly to come on over for freebies just to receive a little but of "sweat lovin" and attention. There are many ways to achieve the end result but the common theme is treat them like normal people and not like workers.

[Ipanema Carioca]

Freudian slip? It seems that most women on this planet are not used to a guy who can cook or clean. Everyday chicks come to my room in Thailand and I hear who cleans this place for you? It is very nice here.(See below for Mr. Enternational's entire post)

When I use to wine and dine I finally awoke to the waste when an American chick asked me when I was going to cook for her, as we sat in a nice restaurant on a date I initiated. I said to myself,"really *****. I wine and dine you and you want me to cook too? What are you going to do for me?" Meaning, if I pay for ding out, she could at least volunteer a home-cooked meal as the female. And now I eat where I want to eat and go to events I want to go. But I will ask,"Hey Giselle, I feel like some sushi, do you want to go, or, I want some sangria, do you want to go?" They can either say yes or no. Also, if a woman cooks for me I'll cook fore her, because if you spoil them like you're their daddy, etc, then they will expect it. When it comes to women who are not p4p, the get spoiled and temperamental with high expections. And that goes for women in general. As for gdp, they now figure they're in control because the are hot and sex is their power. ***** please, females tyrn 18 yeard ols and available every minute, every hour, every day and!

[Azn Safado]

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So the answer Eric isn't cut and dry after living here in Rio for 1. 5 years you shouldn't even have time to step inside a Termas from girls knocking down your front door. LOL I only been here for 2 weeks and I have to take the phone off the hook in my hotel room when I have a girls over so I won't have any problems or issues. Rio is a gold mine at just picking up single girls even on the Metro Train at around 4-5 pm downtown you have working business ladies working around in their heels and dresses just offer them to have some coffee or drink with you before they go home and IF they don't have time for it pass them your hotel or apt or cell phone number and say when you have time give me a call. It's so damn easy here.

Most of these Termas girls mostly have a bad view or outlook on most guys ALL they see mostly are 90% of guys that are married or single local guys that are cheating on their wives or girlfriend with them or one of their co-workers so when you offer them to see you for dinner or go somewhere to listen to some music. BUT the last thing you should do is OFFER them to just come over to your place just for sex (or asked how much they charge for the hour). That will turn them off and they will treat you just like any other a dime a doz trick they see everyday or seen a million of and will charge you as such. So you may be better off seeing them there at their job!

Kid Cisco

Picking up business women on the metro on the way home from work is sooooo easy? I am not sure on what planet or country you are referring to. Maybe in Iceland where the inhabitants don't ever see anyone but Icelandic people. Ha. I doubt these Rio women riding on the metro on the way home from work want to be bothered or hit on. If they say they don't have time and you give them your contact info, they may accept it out of politeness but I just can't see them eager to call and come over to get bizzy or hook up. Upper-class and upper-middle-class women in Rio aren't exactly throwing themselves at Gringoes like you make it sound. Maybe if you are Bradley Cooper in the looks department and can speak pretty fluent Portuguese, then I can see it happening. Living in Rio for a few months now, I've tried talking to these attractive women on the bus on the way home from Centro. They seem to be polite, but they aren't all super friendly and willing to just chat it up with every random foreigner. Then again, maybe my game is below average. Ha. What's the old saying "If your game is average in your home country, then it's going to be even worse in a foreign country". Now girls working at Rio Sul mall. Well, they have less self-esteem and money, so they may be more game for that approach of giving them your number if they don't accept your initial invitation. I don't know KC, maybe what you are saying is true in your experience here, but I just wanted to give some perspective to others based on my experience here. Actually, my American friends and I have had better luck going out to Lapa and picking up non-GDP's. After all, they are already out and looking for a good time.

As for inviting Terma girls over for paid sex, I don't think it's as bad as you say. That was my mo When I first came to Rio and it has worked well over the years. When they come over, I would just treat them as a normal person. We would chill and watch tv or go get something to eat at one of those Sucos bars before doing anything. Then they just realize,"this guy's pretty ok. Not the sicko pervert that I thought." Ha. This would result in hanging out on other days without mention of the P4P. I think it really comes down to how she perceives you after being with you outside of her element (the terma). Of course, it would be better if you could just say "Hey, want to go to the beach tomorrow" and they all say yes. Keep in mind, they are working girls and most need some kind of motivation ($$$) to see a customer outside of her work. Hell, if I were a terma girl and had a choice between sleeping in until 1 pm or having to get up early to hang out with a customer at the beach, I'd take the sleep time. LOL.

[Mr Enternational]

Somebody is making some money.

Similarly on the other side of the globe, passenger traffic in Rio de Janeiro (GIG) grew by 20.5 percent, compared to 2010.

Http://www.emailbrain.com/eb_members...sults_2011.pdf

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...-top-spot.html

[Ipanema Carioca]

I'm very economic when it comes to P4P. (see entire Sperto post below)

You are right Sperto in your entire post. I have never been in Brasil more than 2 weeks at a time in 15 trips, sad to say, but I'm working on it. So my time is short to be romancing. However, if I were there 2-3 months a visit or longer, then I will fine me a non pro. But I have a general female policy about their attitude, neediness, the big picture in life, and the long haul, which the same I require from American females. I just can't maintain a long distance relationship, and I had gdps try me with their "Captain Save A Hoe" emails that they have an emergency bull shit. I know there are women in life every where who are to proud to be for help or money. I was in the Sosua, Dominican Republic last month spending two days with a girl I met before. Why 2 days, because she had her own new scooter and her own business so it was on her. Then when I return to the US she calls and says "Popi, I need food for my house." She lives with her mother, her baby and her sister who too is hoing."Sell your scooter," I said and hung up. Back to Rio. If I lived in Rio or anywhere, I would treat a non pro GFE style, and treat the gdp like a gdp. But until I can have longer trips, I got to keep it moving. Find, fuck and forget the gdps.

[Exec Talent]

This is an interesting discussion indeed. I remember a time when guys, who now talk about women in flowery terms, were describing them, shall we say, less elegantly. Seems that the philosophy back then was basically one of pilage the land and ravage the women. My how times have changed.

[Mr Enternational]

I dislike investing in a date without having a p*ssy-guarantee. I rather invite her home to my place for dinner. Brazilian girls are not used to guys who can cock well and are easily impressed. A dinner at your place with wine, candles, soft music and you have your p*ssy guaranteed at a low cost.

Freudian slip? It seems that most women on this planet are not used to a guy who can cook or clean. Everyday chicks come to my room in Thailand and I hear who cleans this place for you? It is very nice here. I'm like I do it myself. Why would I need someone else to do it. For the most part they are shocked that a man cleans up and has a room nicer than theirs with all kinds of decorations and shit. They get comfortable and want to come back to spend the night everyday.

But like you said Sperto even when I am in the States and I want to invite a girl out I will offer to cook for them. But now-a-days it seems like most of those gold diggers refuse and request to be taken out somewhere. So for me that old custom has pretty much fallen by the wayside.

[Sperto]

In Rio there are gdp and non gdp, but there is no such thing as "free pussy or sex". In fact, the most expensive pussy and sex is when you think it is "free". A non gdp in a developing country. 3rd world and eve 1st world will always want or need something they can't afford, and the will ask the guy who they have been given unpaid sex to. You're going to pay something down the law, but it depends on "how much."

I'm very economic when it comes to P4P. I choose privês and avoid termas etc. However if I'm having a "steady GF" I happily take her out to clubs, cinema, dinner or invite her on a trip to Búzios or Ilha Grande. I treat her very well without spoiling her with weekly visits at Porcão or Marius. With a steady GF which I have feelings for I would never start counting expenses and think "Shit, this dinner cost me two visits at Tigresas."

With a non-pro who are just intended to be a one-night stand it's different. If you pick her up on a club, the beach or on the street and bring her home for a single sex encounter it might cost you nothing or maybe just a drink. If you have to go through the process of dating her, with dinner at restaurants, cinema etc, before you get her to bed, it can be quite costly. I dislike investing in a date without having a p*ssy-guarantee. I rather invite her home to my place for dinner. Brazilian girls are not used to guys who can cock well and are easily impressed. A dinner at your place with wine, candles, soft music and you have your p*ssy guaranteed at a low cost.

Of course you also have the non-pro's that fall into the category, piranhas. They will f*ck with you without charging money, but they will expect plenty of shopping, presents, help with bills and maybe a future together with you. They might cost you way more than any terma. Those piranhas can be very sneaky and abusive. You just have to be smarter than them. Keep control on your expenses, get sex and dump her when she becomes too greedy.

I'm very happy with the combination of GP's and non-pro's, but it propably depends on how much time you spend in Brazil. If you only have 1-2 weeks I guess you might want to keep to GP's all the way. With 3 months things look different.

[Ipanema Carioca]

Interesting discussion about dating GP's for free sex.

During the years I have dated several GP's. Wonderful and kind girls. The sex had been good and free.

The only reason I would date a GP for free sex is that a girl, GP or regular, performs better when she does it because of desire instead of money.

Still I prefer dating regular girls instead of GP's. I rather cuddle and be romantic with a regular girl than a girl that had 8 other dicks during her day at work.

In Rio there are gdp and non gdp, but there is no such thing as "free pussy or sex". In fact, the most expensive pussy and sex is when you think it is "free". A non gdp in a developing country. 3rd world and eve 1st world will always want or need something they can't afford, and the will ask the guy who they have been given unpaid sex to. You're going to pay something down the law, but it depends on "how much."

[Sperto]

Interesting discussion about dating GP's for free sex.
During the years I have dated several GP's. Wonderful and kind girls. The sex had been good and free.

The only reason I would date a GP for free sex is that a girl, GP or regular, performs better when she does it because of desire instead of money.
Still I prefer dating regular girls instead of GP's. I rather cuddle and be romantic with a regular girl than a girl that had 8 other dicks during her day at work.

[PatmarBeleza1]

Bubba boy and Kid Cisco are right on.

Treat the GDP as a real girl, a real person, real friend, and better sex will happen.

My example. Which is 1 girl out of 150 I have done in Rio. I was staying in touch with her as she was the best sex out of all the GDPs over 7 trips, including getting her number in Italy and calling her. I happen to be in Rio at the same time she has just come back from Italy. I SKYPE, email her, convince her to come over to my apartment. 12th floor overlooking copa beach. And she is trying to get out of the biz. She comes in, kissing, sucking my cock, BBFS. 12 hours. 2 days later, her anniversario, and she comes over (out of the other choices she had) , dinner, repeat. First time BBFS, and it is with a girl the GPGUIA and hotforum brasileirsos are lusting after.

So, find the top rated chick in a terma or a freelancer in hotforum, get to know her as a real person, and just date her like any girl, and it could happen.

Or it could not.

But if it does, it could be the best sexo of your life.

I never thought I would see the day where I agree with one of Kid Ciscos posts but the above is absolutely true. The key to having these girls come over for free is to just treat them like any other girl that you would date. You MUST differentiate yourself from being just another client, whom most working girls dislike, to being a friend. If you ask them how much $ then they will treat you like just another client, if you ask them to the beach or just out on a normal date then that separates you from being a client.

I personally won't have a girl over for $ as a rule. When they come over for free the sex is so much better and she is there because she wants to be. From memory I have paid about 6 girls to come over in my nearly 10 years of visiting / living in Rio. To me having a girl come over and paying her is so boring, it is not even worth it. If she comes over for free it is so much more fun because she is into it and you can go and do normal stuff. So much better.

[Kyrawz]

Kid cisco, very good reports and advices.

The last year, I have try to do what you say "invite girl dining, go to the beach, take a drink."

Someones have say yes and it was really good.

Others ones only would to see me outside just for fuck and be paid, no others things!

You speak about brazilian girls of Rio Sul Mall girl, maybe you can give some advices for how to find here, to start talking with her and more.

[Making Moves]

I was at Balcony Bar last night and it looked like a FREAK show a bunch of ugly looking monsters. Out of about 60-70 girls I saw maybe 2 that I felt was ok looking

I said this a few pages back, Balcony has average girls, every now and again, I saw a really cute one but most times they were not hot.

[Bubba Boy]

Eric,

I remember you asking me this question before about the " Facebook" girls I have met and I don't think I answer it at that time as you can see from reading some of the posts here many guys have their own methods that seem to work for them. One guy method may not work well for another guy you need to find your style and what works for you.

BUT, I will tell you one of my method is to treat a Terma girl the same way I would treat a Rio Sul Mall girl I met at the Food court or a girl I met in line at Bob's what I have notice in my life when I am at any of the top South Beach at nightclubs like Mansion or Liv or at a high end night club in Vegas like Pure, Tao, Haze, Hyde, etc. Many Vegas escorts, showgirls, cocktail waitress etc. Go to these clubs on their days off and ALL they want to do is hang out and party and if a guy step to them the right way (and not as a Trick) they will fuck the shit out of him that night. NOT all girls that sell ass for a living want to be on duty selling ass 24/7. They are still females and want and need attention to still let them know they are still a woman and not just another hooker.

Besides when most of these girls take off their make-up and put on their jeans and t-shirts and the come to the front desk at my hotel asking for me they don't even look like the same girl from the Terma they look so avg. So it's easy for me to treat them as such.

The same hold true with these Termas girls they have normal lives they shop for milk and bread and many work out at local gyms and love to listen to music and as you can see from inside the Termas they love to dance. I love to dance as well and I don't have a problem showing or asking girls out to their favorite spot to hang out and dance or listen to some music. Or grab something to eat.

What I said a few months ago still hold true now. I been here in Rio for over 2 weeks and my 1st week or so I was a madman or a monster fucking girls left and right at the top Termas and after that I built up points at some of the Termas were my entrance was free and I could just go in there and hang out I had girls telling me oh you know my friend so and so don't you? She works at Termas X Y Z you took her out didn't you? Why you didn't ask me out? Etc.

BUT! Eric don't come off as a TRICK if I ran up to chicks in Vegas or South Beach or LA asking them to come by my place and HOW MUCH would they charge me? Of course if she don't really want to be with me or if she ONLY look at me as a trick she will say hell if this guy is willing to pay me hell I will charge him the sky be it 300 reals or 500 reals! You want her to WANT to be with you. Most of these girls have babies and do you think? They charged their baby Father by the hour? Or their current local boyfriend the hour? Hell no. They mostly ONLY charge gringos because many of us are so fast to reach in our pockets and pay them. Or say or ask HOW MUCH?

I know I know before anyone say it I know this is a site for paying for sex and there isn't anything wrong with that and this is what we are here for and this is what I do as well pay for sex BUT Eric asked me for my advice and maybe he and others are looking for other options for this reason I post my answer to his question here on the forum and not just PM with my answer him. And most of all he asked me in a respectful manner.

So the answer Eric isn't cut and dry after living here in Rio for 1. 5 years you shouldn't even have time to step inside a Termas from girls knocking down your front door. LOL I only been here for 2 weeks and I have to take the phone off the hook in my hotel room when I have a girls over so I won't have any problems or issues. Rio is a gold mine at just picking up single girls even on the Metro Train at around 4-5 pm downtown you have working business ladies working around in their heels and dresses just offer them to have some coffee or drink with you before they go home and IF they don't have time for it pass them your hotel or apt or cell phone number and say when you have time give me a call. It's so damn easy here.

Most of these Termas girls mostly have a bad view or outlook on most guys ALL they see mostly are 90% of guys that are married or single local guys that are cheating on their wives or girlfriend with them or one of their co-workers so when you offer them to see you for dinner or go somewhere to listen to some music. BUT the last thing you should do is OFFER them to just come over to your place just for sex (or asked how much they charge for the hour). That will turn them off and they will treat you just like any other a dime a doz trick they see everyday or seen a million of and will charge you as such. So you may be better off seeing them there at their job!

I must also add what AMERIOCA said how he can pull them from high end Tier 1 Termas like Centaurs for free I agree a guy can pull dimes mostly ONLY if she is attractive to you or something about you it doesn't always have to do with looks or visual (but it helps) hit the gym! LOL if you can make a chick laugh and forget her problems for a few hours or show her a nice time and if you enjoy dancing and show her a fun time that can be sexy to her and most guys on here know how these Brazilian girls love to have a fun time in some of these places you will see short OBESE guys with some dimes hell go to the airport and see how many hot looking dimes with short fat guys LOL or (maybe its his wallet that they dig) LOL.

Kid Cisco

I never thought I would see the day where I agree with one of Kid Ciscos posts but the above is absolutely true. The key to having these girls come over for free is to just treat them like any other girl that you would date. You MUST differentiate yourself from being just another client, whom most working girls dislike, to being a friend. If you ask them how much $ then they will treat you like just another client, if you ask them to the beach or just out on a normal date then that separates you from being a client.

I personally won't have a girl over for $ as a rule. When they come over for free the sex is so much better and she is there because she wants to be. From memory I have paid about 6 girls to come over in my nearly 10 years of visiting / living in Rio. To me having a girl come over and paying her is so boring, it is not even worth it. If she comes over for free it is so much more fun because she is into it and you can go and do normal stuff. So much better.