Smooci Advertiser Thread

[Franciscass]

I missed the point, what exactly is the best practice that this massage shop is using?

Perhaps he was suggesting that being strict on using only authentic profiles and pics on a site need not result in a poor business outcome. I happen to agree but also understand Smooci while wanting to use this model are unable to execute due to resistance from the escorts themselves. Problem is if this is the model they eventually aspire to then they have to start somewhere. Unfortunately I fear it may be getting away from them and too late to make the needed changes. Hope not because as I think we nearly all agree Smooci is a good site but with only authentic profiles it would be a great site.

[Franciscass]

I missed the point, what exactly is the best practice that this massage shop is using?

Perhaps he was suggesting that being strict on using only authentic profiles and pics on a site need not result in a poor business outcome. I happen to agree but also understand Smooci while wanting to use this model are unable to execute due to resistance from the escorts themselves. Problem is if this is what they eventually aspire to then they have to start somehow somewhere sometime. Unfortunately I fear it may be getting away from them and too difficult to make the needed changes. Hope not because as I think we nearly all agree Smooci a good site but with only authentic profiles it would truly be a great site.

[Gigi Buffon]

I have visited a massage place on Soi33 Soi4. Their web site shows pictures of the girls that work there. In my experience they are accurate and up to date, as are the ages. On my last visit they appeared to be very busy. Their approach appears to be successful. Their mission is not to improve the escort industry but their example is one that should be copied.

I missed the point, what exactly is the best practice that this massage shop is using? Also, I am intrigued by their mission "not to improve the escort industry". I am in favor of progress and transformation, and I do see benefits in the services that Smocci offers, I am not saying it is perfect, but it is work in progress to facilitate finding and booking a very extensive and diverse gallery of escorts, not to mention some healthy competition on rates and the ability to rate escort performance, which based on my encounters, most girls care about the rating that you will give them. Privacy is an issue of concern, which has been flagged and discussed in this thread already, but remains a matter to be cautious about.

[WarmStone25]

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Currently can't find any other platform doing so far so good as Smooci in my own opinion. Wish you the best of luck too Smooci.

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I have visited a massage place on Soi33 Soi4. Their web site shows pictures of the girls that work there. In my experience they are accurate and up to date, as are the ages. On my last visit they appeared to be very busy. Their approach appears to be successful. Their mission is not to improve the escort industry but their example is one that should be copied.

[EihTooms]

I'm replying to F but I'm referring to E. Tooms.

I know. That is why I commented on your post that way. You referred to me as though I am the only punter who "want everything to follow his style and his way." Clearly, the punter you were replying to wanted everything to follow his style and his way enough that, when it didn't, he sent the first girl packing with only taxi fare. That is kinda' what paying for it is all about, especially when paying much more than what one really needs to pay in a given environment; the goal being to get it our style and our way.

[Tiandihui]

Thanks for the reply. I sort of figured it might be something along the lines you mentioned.

It's a tough call. I guess it comes down to whether the escorts you lose because they don't want to show their true age and updated pics will be more than compensated for by the increased use of the site by clients who value authenticity of profiles.

Personally long term I feel an escort booking site which gets a reputation for "what you see is what you get" will be successful. I believe it will be used a lot more which in turn because of the money that can be made will attract better and better genuine talent.

Anyway I wish you guys the best of luck. I believe you genuinely want Smooci to be as good as it can be and to be honest I don't understand some of the criticism you get.

"I believe you genuinely want Smooci to be as good as it can be and to be honest I don't understand some of the criticism you get."

Exactly don't understand it too. Well, I suppose this will be the normal against the minority adnormal.

Currently can't find any other platform doing so far so good as Smooci in my own opinion. Wish you the best of luck too Smooci.

The critics you guys getting are just like the local Thai taxi complain about the GRab and Uber.

[SmoociApp]

Thanks for the reply. I sort of figured it might be something along the lines you mentioned.

Personally long term I feel an escort booking site which gets a reputation for "what you see is what you get" will be successful. I believe it will be used a lot more which in turn because of the money that can be made will attract better and better genuine talent.

Thanks and we agree with that quote. Smooci is still very much work in progress and that is exactly where we want to eventually be.

[Syzygies]

It was a couple of months back. I was on a bender that day with a pal of mine so details are a bit sketchy. I booked both on the same day, the second after sending back the first. I've checked the Smooci site and cannot find the second girl at least as I remember her but I'm reasonably sure the first girl was Ngam who is rated 4.2.

I am not intending a criticism. However just a piece of trivia.

I don't recall ever meeting any Girl called Ngam, so it is not that common I guess. It is therefore quite unlikely to be her real nick-name. Naam (means water) is very common. Many Farangs can't pronounce "Ngam" (Ngaam) correctly. Ngam is a perfectly good Thai word though, with most common meaning as: Attractive (beautiful) and charming. It is a poetic word in Thai or normal word in Issan dialect. Alternate meaning (with different tone) is "tines of a fork" (very unlikely).

It rings a slight alarm bell with me. If normally girls do not have this name, could a girl choose this name over-compensating in some way? Just like if a Guy calls himself Biggus Dickus on this forum, is he actually over compensating for the lack of something? LOL Maybe I am too suspicious, and she actually was very beautiful, however you did send her away. I have no personal opinion on her beauty and charm, just that the name concerns me slightly. I would prefer something more normal.

To be fair, it is possible some other idiot chose the name for her, and she did not choose it, although she could have said she doesn't like it. It seems too flamboyant to me. I guess she is innocent till proven guilty, I am just a suspicious and sceptical type.

[Franciscass]

As I say, we are constantly looking at ideas on how to improve issues like this, and will continue to do so. We also think the comments are working towards easing this problem. If a girl is clearly 10 years old than her stated age and she has had at least a few bookings, I would expect this to be noted in her comments. We don't edit the comments (unless it is something serious flagged as serious. Which has so far only happened once), and most notable negatives and positives about a girl will show up once she has a few bookinsg behind her.

Thanks for the reply. I sort of figured it might be something along the lines you mentioned.

It's a tough call. I guess it comes down to whether the escorts you lose because they don't want to show their true age and updated pics will be more than compensated for by the increased use of the site by clients who value authenticity of profiles.

Personally long term I feel an escort booking site which gets a reputation for "what you see is what you get" will be successful. I believe it will be used a lot more which in turn because of the money that can be made will attract better and better genuine talent.

Anyway I wish you guys the best of luck. I believe you genuinely want Smooci to be as good as it can be and to be honest I don't understand some of the criticism you get.

[SmoociApp]

It's all about expectations. I agree that experience is mostly preferable but I am a sucker for early to mid-twenties ladies so when that's what I'm expecting to see and don't my immediate reaction is one of disappointment. To Smooci I ask why can you not verify age, it would seem simple enough by checking ID'S as I imagine you do if only to insure no xxxxxx girls are listed on your site. I've asked this question before but failed to get a response. Confused!

It wasn't a simple choice of not wanting to create an auto age from the ID. We are constantly looking at improving the system and false ages and photoshopping are among our top priorities. We are always brainstorming new ideas and testing out possibilites.

- On launched we didn't require ID (companions had to accepted our terms and conditions and confirm they were over 18) so we didn't have the ID for the large groups of girls who joined smooci at the start.

- We later made new companions submit their ID and we manually verified that and tested the idea of manually filling in the ID. We did it to a small group of companions and got negative feedback and complaints that other companions were allowed to select their age. So we decided it would be fairer to put it on hold and try chase up the rest of the companions listed to get everyone's ID.

- We then began prepping our Singapore launch contacting the companions on our Singapore wiating list and the ID requirement became a huge issue; with the vast majority of Singapore girls being foreigners and paranoid. Almost every girl backed out when asked for their goverment ID and we realized that we had to rethink it again.

- So our current idea is that we don't request ID on sign up, we require them to read and accept the rules and confirm that they are of legal age. We are also building in algorythm that will bring girls who get a lot of negative responses and low rating to our attention, and we will then lock their account and require them to submit their idea in order to unlock it. So if for any reason an account is suspicious or not performing to our standards we can request their ID in order for them to continue. Once this is in place we can test out using auto ID on their profiles.

That is where we are at and why we aren't auto filling age at the moment.

As I say, we are constantly looking at ideas on how to improve issues like this, and will continue to do so. We also think the comments are working towards easing this problem. If a girl is clearly 10 years old than her stated age and she has had at least a few bookings, I would expect this to be noted in her comments. We don't edit the comments (unless it is something serious flagged as serious. Which has so far only happened once), and most notable negatives and positives about a girl will show up once she has a few bookinsg behind her.

[Tiandihui]

The poster you are replying to found enough fault with a Smooci booking that didn't conform to his style and his way to send her packing with only taxi fare. His replacement booking was a repeat of the same problem as the first one, but apparently not so much so that other factors couldn't compensate. For some of us, that is a 3,750+ baht bet not necessary to make unless and until Smooci's system is improved here and there to better sync up the relationship between the Ratings and the results. Should that happen, it is duly noted that there won't be any thanks for that to you or anything you have contributed to this thread.

It is very likely the girl he sent packing had a relatively high Star Rating because, thanks to my questions for him here, the owner of Smooci eventually posted the most inside tip imaginable; that, taking all intel on all the girls that he is privy to into consideration, even he wouldn't book a girl with less than a 4.5 Star Rating if her actually performing the services listed on her profile really mattered. If a poster having read that here (again, thanks to me and not you) still insists on booking a girl with less than a 4.5 Star Rating, it would most likely be because of factors other than that she will actually perform the services listed, such as her age, her looks or something else he sees in her profile or photos. Which is fine for the customers, perhaps including you, who don't care about such things as the girl actually performing the services she lists on her profile.

I'm replying to F but I'm referring to E. Tooms.

[Franciscass]

Feels like we need to add 10 years to their stated age no matter where we book our ladies: Smooci or other agencies. Being with a lady around my age is not an issue, she just needs to know how to maintain her look and physique, then I'm in. I find ladies in their 30's with more experience know how to please me better than the ones in their early 20's. And of course a great personality is over the top of everything.

It's all about expectations. I agree that experience is mostly preferable but I am a sucker for early to mid-twenties ladies so when that's what I'm expecting to see and don't my immediate reaction is one of disappointment. To Smooci I ask why can you not verify age, it would seem simple enough by checking ID'S as I imagine you do if only to insure no [CodeWord902] girls are listed on your site. I've asked this question before but failed to get a response. Confused!

[WarmStone25]

Yes, but you didn't say, "In my opinion, Providers should not be asked to engage in BBFS. " Your "In my opinion" statement came after you said the thing about what Providers should not be asked. And the sentence before it, "There are some safety factors for provider and user," appeared to be setting up that particular statement as an example of a safety issue you saw on their website. That is what I meant.

There are all kinds of details hidden deep in their Blog, Terms & conditions, Privacy policy, etc. that I doubt most customers of Smooci ever see or know about and I thought the thing you said about Providers not being asked for BBFS was one of them, that's all. Thanks for the clarification.

When I used the words " There are some safety factors for the provider and user", what I meant was that using Smooci to make a date may be safer than other methods. My comment about providers not being asked to engage in BBFS was not related to anything that I saw on the Smooci website, but was related to something in one of your own posts. Photos and ages that are about 10 years old are provided by the agencies to be used on the Smooci website. In this digital age there is no excuse for using old photos, because they can be updated quickly and easily. Ages can be checked easily. The only way that the agencies will stop this behavior is if the girls with old photos or incorrect ages are not booked. To this end, more users should report, and reports should be honest, and reports should contain more than two or three words. Reading honest reports would appear to be the only way to see if photos are old or the age to young, photo verification does not appear to do this.

[Gladiator69]

I have used then twice. On both occasions the lady was definitely a lot older than her profiled age. One I immediately gave 200 Baht taxi money to and said goodbye, the other because of her personality and great body I continued with and had a sweet time.

Feels like we need to add 10 years to their stated age no matter where we book our ladies: Smooci or other agencies. Being with a lady around my age is not an issue, she just needs to know how to maintain her look and physique, then I'm in. I find ladies in their 30's with more experience know how to please me better than the ones in their early 20's. And of course a great personality is over the top of everything.

[EihTooms]

He just want everything to follow his style and his way. Its better to leave no reply to his comments. It will be a never ending fault finding.

The poster you are replying to found enough fault with a Smooci booking that didn't conform to his style and his way to send her packing with only taxi fare. His replacement booking was a repeat of the same problem as the first one, but apparently not so much so that other factors couldn't compensate. For some of us, that is a 3,750+ baht bet not necessary to make unless and until Smooci's system is improved here and there to better sync up the relationship between the Ratings and the results. Should that happen, it is duly noted that there won't be any thanks for that to you or anything you have contributed to this thread.

It is very likely the girl he sent packing had a relatively high Star Rating because, thanks to my questions for him here, the owner of Smooci eventually posted the most inside tip imaginable; that, taking all intel on all the girls that he is privy to into consideration, even he wouldn't book a girl with less than a 4.5 Star Rating if her actually performing the services listed on her profile really mattered. If a poster having read that here (again, thanks to me and not you) still insists on booking a girl with less than a 4.5 Star Rating, it would most likely be because of factors other than that she will actually perform the services listed, such as her age, her looks or something else he sees in her profile or photos. Which is fine for the customers, perhaps including you, who don't care about such things as the girl actually performing the services she lists on her profile.