Makati

[Soapy Smith]

There you are paying US $56 for all night with a hot young Filipina while I'm at an FKK in Germany paying $175 for 40 minutes with a lethargic clock watching Romanian. Life ain't fair.

T, I wish you hadn't reposted the entire quote from SB's post, but your comparison and conclusion make sense.

[Turgid]

I found myself near Burgos street in Makati on Monday last week around 5:30 pm in the sweltering heat and figured I would grab a cold beer and cool off as well as scout the area for a return visit later that evening. I stepped into a club on the corner of Burgos and Badajos, near Kojax, might have been called Bourbon Street. At 6:00 pm the club had over 20 women and maybe 4 guys. I grabbed a San Miguel for 80 pesos and enjoyed the air con while looking over the talent. Most of the women were chunky mommas but there might have been 4 or 5 that had nice bodies or at least nice enough that they didn't hide their bellies behind lingerie. They were friendly as most Pinays are but nothing grabbed my interest and I left.

I walked down Burgos to Bottoms which several members had suggested might have top-quality but expensive girls. As I was about to enter the bar 3 slim girls standing in front of Plan "B" caught my eye and began waving and smiling. This looked promising considering it was still daylight out. With a little more eye contact from me they crossed the street and I picked the cutest of the 3. She was 22 and slim with nice breasts, but admitted to having a 3-year-old at home. She seemed a bit depressed. She asked if I wanted to go with her. I said "no, but give me your number and maybe later" she punched her number into my phone. (I had got a free Global SIM at the airport so I didn't worry about giving her my number).

Bottoms opens at 2:00 pm and closes at 5:00 am so by 6:30 pm there were 20-25 women and again almost no mongers. Again, the San Miguel was 80 pesos, the music wasn't too loud and I relaxed and looked over the collection. Wow, if this is one of the best in Makati, I was disappointed. Almost without exception the women were fat and fully covered mommies. There was one cute thing with a glorious pair of tits peeking out of a cropped tee-shirt -the design where the lower half of her full firm "C+" breasts hung out and jiggled as she walked by. Very nice ass on that one as well, but a face for radio or a dark night. So, I left after about 30 minutes. The mamasan at the entrance said bar fine before 7:00 pm was 2,500 or 2,800 (US $45-$52) and the girl's tip would need to be 2,000+ ($37). That's all in about $80-$90 for full sex. There wasn't a single girl in there at that time who was worth that in my opinion. After 7:00 pm the bar fine goes to over 3,000, maybe 3,500?

I had some other business and during my meetings I entertained myself by sexting with the streetwalker. She offered fully sex, blowjob, massage, for 2,500 (US $45), I said no too expensive. She immediately came down to 2,000. We messaged a bit more with her growing increasingly hopeful, even begging me to take her. I guess it was a slow night on the street.

I returned to Burgos around 10:00 pm and made my way into Kojax (opens at 7:00 pm). Now, here were the best women I have even seen in the PI's. At least a dozen single 18-21-year-olds with firm bodies and no kids, plus another 10 who would be fit and good-looking MILFs under the age of 26 and 15 or so who were a bit chubby and had the bodies to show a few kids some big droopy tits if you are into that sort of thing. Again, not many guys, maybe only 5-6. The mamasan immediately was at my side suggesting some women for me. Hearing my desire for single girls with no kids, she brought over two first-night-girls. They were both 19 and genuinely seemed to have no idea how the whole ladies drink thing worked. They had to be forced to choose a drink and sipped them so slowly, that I do believe this was their first night. Both were sweet girls with tight young bodies, beautiful skin, nice faces. They sat on either side of me and I stroked their bodies, squeezed their asses and had a couple of beers while they each had 2 lady's drinks. They each told me their whole sexual life experiences, which didn't take very long. One had an Australian boyfriend who took her flower at 17 and then banged her weekly for about 9 months luckily lad. She seemed sold on the big white dicks idea and hoped to marry a guy like that she said. The other one had only had one Filipino boyfriend and few arranged dates for money. I asked if they would want to come home and play with me or if they would rather stay. They both said they wanted to make money. I casually said that normally I would pay 2,000 each. They thought that was fine. But, I really didn't want to take them given the bar fine was another 3,500, I still texting with my streetwalker, and frankly had probably had a few too many drinks to take full advantage of an inexperienced 19-year-old. So, I tipped them 500 each and left the bar to find her. Conclusion: Kojax is great, music at a volume that allows conversation, some true 9's and I would defiantly go back when I was feeling fresh.

As I stood outside trying to connect with the streetwalker, I spotted another slim hot looking thing with a short skirt and nice legs. Upon investigation she was very interested and said 1000 for everything. This confirmed my suspicion that she was a he. I've never walked that path but she almost had me convinced to give it a try looked damn hot and from 6 feet away I think most of you blokes would have agreed. Small hands, thin neck, big eyes, full lips, heart shaped face but unfortunately a tiny little dick somewhere...

Finally, the streetwalker showed up and I told her I wanted her to stay the night. She agreed and I took her back to my hotel around 12:30. Once there I carefully locked away everything of value and we began to play a bit. Unfortunately, she played the shy game and wanted all the lights out before she would undress, I said no way, she eventually went to the shower and showered and came out wrapped modestly in a towel. She then said that she couldn't stay all night and put up a little fuss about that. I said "Well, here's 100 pesos for a taxi or you can stay all night for 2,000" She begged me for more money for overnight, which I refused and finally she reluctantly agreed. It wasn't the finest sex but she gave the best blowjob I have had all year and her pussy was tight as hell since she had had Cesare for her boy's birth bit of a nasty scar which she was embarrassed about. Not really the GFE experience I was hoping for but a warm young female body to sleep with is generally a good thing. In the end I gave her a 1000 peso tip bring her take home pay to 3,000 (US $56) plus two toothbrushes, a comb, a can of Fanta, and a bedside chocolate.

There you are paying US $56 for all night with a hot young Filipina while I'm at an FKK in Germany paying $175 for 40 minutes with a lethargic clock watching Romanian. Life ain't fair.

[SteelBaton]

I found myself near Burgos street in Makati on Monday last week around 5:30 pm in the sweltering heat and figured I would grab a cold beer and cool off as well as scout the area for a return visit later that evening. I stepped into a club on the corner of Burgos and Badajos, near Kojax, might have been called Bourbon Street. At 6:00 pm the club had over 20 women and maybe 4 guys. I grabbed a San Miguel for 80 pesos and enjoyed the air con while looking over the talent. Most of the women were chunky mommas but there might have been 4 or 5 that had nice bodies or at least nice enough that they didn't hide their bellies behind lingerie. They were friendly as most Pinays are but nothing grabbed my interest and I left.

I walked down Burgos to Bottoms which several members had suggested might have top-quality but expensive girls. As I was about to enter the bar 3 slim girls standing in front of Plan "B" caught my eye and began waving and smiling. This looked promising considering it was still daylight out. With a little more eye contact from me they crossed the street and I picked the cutest of the 3. She was 22 and slim with nice breasts, but admitted to having a 3-year-old at home. She seemed a bit depressed. She asked if I wanted to go with her. I said "no, but give me your number and maybe later" she punched her number into my phone. (I had got a free Global SIM at the airport so I didn't worry about giving her my number).

Bottoms opens at 2:00 pm and closes at 5:00 am so by 6:30 pm there were 20-25 women and again almost no mongers. Again, the San Miguel was 80 pesos, the music wasn't too loud and I relaxed and looked over the collection. Wow, if this is one of the best in Makati, I was disappointed. Almost without exception the women were fat and fully covered mommies. There was one cute thing with a glorious pair of tits peeking out of a cropped tee-shirt -the design where the lower half of her full firm "C+" breasts hung out and jiggled as she walked by. Very nice ass on that one as well, but a face for radio or a dark night. So, I left after about 30 minutes. The mamasan at the entrance said bar fine before 7:00 pm was 2,500 or 2,800 (US $45-$52) and the girl's tip would need to be 2,000+ ($37). That's all in about $80-$90 for full sex. There wasn't a single girl in there at that time who was worth that in my opinion. After 7:00 pm the bar fine goes to over 3,000, maybe 3,500?

I had some other business and during my meetings I entertained myself by sexting with the streetwalker. She offered fully sex, blowjob, massage, for 2,500 (US $45), I said no too expensive. She immediately came down to 2,000. We messaged a bit more with her growing increasingly hopeful, even begging me to take her. I guess it was a slow night on the street.

I returned to Burgos around 10:00 pm and made my way into Kojax (opens at 7:00 pm). Now, here were the best women I have even seen in the PI's. At least a dozen single 18-21-year-olds with firm bodies and no kids, plus another 10 who would be fit and good-looking MILFs under the age of 26 and 15 or so who were a bit chubby and had the bodies to show a few kids some big droopy tits if you are into that sort of thing. Again, not many guys, maybe only 5-6. The mamasan immediately was at my side suggesting some women for me. Hearing my desire for single girls with no kids, she brought over two first-night-girls. They were both 19 and genuinely seemed to have no idea how the whole ladies drink thing worked. They had to be forced to choose a drink and sipped them so slowly, that I do believe this was their first night. Both were sweet girls with tight young bodies, beautiful skin, nice faces. They sat on either side of me and I stroked their bodies, squeezed their asses and had a couple of beers while they each had 2 lady's drinks. They each told me their whole sexual life experiences, which didn't take very long. One had an Australian boyfriend who took her flower at 17 and then banged her weekly for about 9 months luckily lad. She seemed sold on the big white dicks idea and hoped to marry a guy like that she said. The other one had only had one Filipino boyfriend and few arranged dates for money. I asked if they would want to come home and play with me or if they would rather stay. They both said they wanted to make money. I casually said that normally I would pay 2,000 each. They thought that was fine. But, I really didn't want to take them given the bar fine was another 3,500, I still texting with my streetwalker, and frankly had probably had a few too many drinks to take full advantage of an inexperienced 19-year-old. So, I tipped them 500 each and left the bar to find her. Conclusion: Kojax is great, music at a volume that allows conversation, some true 9's and I would defiantly go back when I was feeling fresh.

As I stood outside trying to connect with the streetwalker, I spotted another slim hot looking thing with a short skirt and nice legs. Upon investigation she was very interested and said 1000 for everything. This confirmed my suspicion that she was a he. I've never walked that path but she almost had me convinced to give it a try looked damn hot and from 6 feet away I think most of you blokes would have agreed. Small hands, thin neck, big eyes, full lips, heart shaped face but unfortunately a tiny little dick somewhere...

Finally, the streetwalker showed up and I told her I wanted her to stay the night. She agreed and I took her back to my hotel around 12:30. Once there I carefully locked away everything of value and we began to play a bit. Unfortunately, she played the shy game and wanted all the lights out before she would undress, I said no way, she eventually went to the shower and showered and came out wrapped modestly in a towel. She then said that she couldn't stay all night and put up a little fuss about that. I said "Well, here's 100 pesos for a taxi or you can stay all night for 2,000" She begged me for more money for overnight, which I refused and finally she reluctantly agreed. It wasn't the finest sex but she gave the best blowjob I have had all year and her pussy was tight as hell since she had had Cesare for her boy's birth bit of a nasty scar which she was embarrassed about. Not really the GFE experience I was hoping for but a warm young female body to sleep with is generally a good thing. In the end I gave her a 1000 peso tip bring her take home pay to 3,000 (US $56) plus two toothbrushes, a comb, a can of Fanta, and a bedside chocolate.

[MSpitz]

1st post here.

Traveling to the PI in about a month. Looking for some advice regarding Spas vs MP. Heard Spas are like MP in California where he is the norm. What about other things short of FS, E. G. UTC touching. MP in PI seem more straight forward but rushed and further away from where I'm staying BGC. TIA!

[Bushes]

FWIW, the bars / clubs do play loud music or music younger generations like to listen and to grind. Has been the same for generations. From LV to Makati, I go to those places because of girls the music attracts. Sometimes an assault to the senses and mind, but it brings the pussy closer to me.

[Kabul Guy]

I've always been at that age......

Me too, I was never into the bar scene. Why pay 2 x or 3 x for a beer and have to shout to be heard? Look around, not very many people are really looking like they are having fun.

I quit smoking in my late teen age years and after that totally quit the bars because of the smoke and noise. (In Canada drinking age was 18 since long before I came of age to drink.) Since I was still a student then, I really could not afford the bars that much anyway.

I do all my hunting on line. PL, SA, WeChat, Tinder and believe it or not some luck on Craigslist. I get laid just about daily without nearly as much expense and hassle as people report paying for bar fines, tips, lady drinks etc.

[MadisonGuy]

I'm at an age at which I cannot last more than 10 or 15 minutes in a Burgos bar since the loud crap they play as music makes me want to run out screaming in aural pain not long after I enter. So I typically make a very quick choice and I'm out the door.

GE.

I've always been at that age. Manila Cafe is more my style but I've never found any stunners there before. Hoping it changes this time, otherwise probably be in angels most my free time. You'the think the hot girls would free lance more often.

[GoodEnough]

I too an older than 62. Much older actually but in good shape. I'm at that one pop is all stage, LOL. I was texting with a 44 year old Pinay on DIA and told her we could meet and have a fun date. She replied "what you mean fun" I Never heard from her again. Guess not all older DIA girls are looking for mongers. Fun means sex I suppose.

I'm at an age at which I cannot last more than 10 or 15 minutes in a Burgos bar since the loud crap they play as music makes me want to run out screaming in aural pain not long after I enter. So I typically make a very quick choice and I'm out the door.

GE.

[ForkTruck]

I'm with you. I'm older than you, now weigh the same as I did when I was a student, and always dress decently. I rarely have any issues.

GE.

I too an older than 62. Much older actually but in good shape. I'm at that one pop is all stage, LOL. I was texting with a 44 year old Pinay on DIA and told her we could meet and have a fun date. She replied "what you mean fun" I Never heard from her again. Guess not all older DIA girls are looking for mongers. Fun means sex I suppose.

[GoodEnough]

Not long ago I was on Makati Ave walking past Burgos, about 2 PM. There was a 60+ year old, well north of 150 kgs, (330 lbs for you Americans) who was wearing dirty sweat stained clothes. Walking down the street.

Don't know if he was a monger or not but if he was, I would not blame the girls for double or triple charging him.

OTOH I am 62, normal weight range (BMI around 23) and always clean and presentably dressed and have never had any issues. I have even had girls thank me for not having a big beer belly LOL.

I'm with you. I'm older than you, now weigh the same as I did when I was a student, and always dress decently. I rarely have any issues.

GE.

[Kabul Guy]

.... I've really never seen any mongers that are grotesque but I suppose they exist. Maybe being in my 30's helps a bit but from everything I know about Philippines 30 or 50 they could care less.....

Not long ago I was on Makati Ave walking past Burgos, about 2 PM. There was a 60+ year old, well north of 150 kgs, (330 lbs for you Americans) who was wearing dirty sweat stained clothes. Walking down the street.

Don't know if he was a monger or not but if he was, I would not blame the girls for double or triple charging him.

OTOH I am 62, normal weight range (BMI around 23) and always clean and presentably dressed and have never had any issues. I have even had girls thank me for not having a big beer belly LOL.

[MadisonGuy]

Unless Pinays have a live-in boyfriend / husband and / or kids expecting her to return home, they prefer to sleep at the hotel with the monger. They will spend all night fucking a monger bareback cum-in-pussy if he is reasonably young handsome fit and hygienic. Then they will fuck again in the morning to relieve his morning wood. It is common for them to sleep in and fuck again at lunch. Many will stay until the evening and return to the bar for their next shift. If the monger lays good pipe and makes them laugh, some Pinays will want to shack up with him for the duration of his visit. A few, will ask him to knock them up with his monger baby. LOL!

So generally, such a monger has to pay them to leave and shoo them out. Even then, the girls will ask to return that night, give their numbers, and a few freelancers may refuse their taxi money. However, that only applies to handsome men. If the monger looks like a decrepit Quasimodo, has man boobs and a potbelly, reeks or farts like a bog, the girls will hit the shower to wash their snatch and bolt out the door, as soon as the monger grunts and drops his first load. LOL! Therefore, experiences may vary.

Well crap I guess being a young blonde haired blue eyed white dude is starting to negatively effect me. I've really never seen any mongers that are grotesque but I suppose they exist. Maybe being in my 30's helps a bit but from everything I know about Philippines 30 or 50 they could care less. I look forward to the interesting stories my next trip will bring. I actually had girls get mad at me for buying them drinks my first trip because that made them feel like a hooker. Such an interesting dynamic there. Got to be really careful no fatal attraction stuff happens my wife would not be happy with me at all, even if I pull the two wives will divide the house work which has not worked yet for me.

[Chocha Monger]

You definitely have a different experience than me then. In Philippines for me personally it has been a prime example of you pay them to leave, not pay them for their time. I've had some stage 5 clingers there that are extremely difficult to get out of my room. Not all of them are like that, but the majority for me are. I'm sure after a week or two they might get home sick, but I wouldn't expect to pay for any to stay with me for a week instead of just a night.

Unless Pinays have a live-in boyfriend / husband and / or kids expecting her to return home, they prefer to sleep at the hotel with the monger. They will spend all night fucking a monger bareback cum-in-pussy if he is reasonably young handsome fit and hygienic. Then they will fuck again in the morning to relieve his morning wood. It is common for them to sleep in and fuck again at lunch. Many will stay until the evening and return to the bar for their next shift. If the monger lays good pipe and makes them laugh, some Pinays will want to shack up with him for the duration of his visit. A few, will ask him to knock them up with his monger baby. LOL!

So generally, such a monger has to pay them to leave and shoo them out. Even then, the girls will ask to return that night, give their numbers, and a few freelancers may refuse their taxi money. However, that only applies to handsome men. If the monger looks like a decrepit Quasimodo, has man boobs and a potbelly, reeks or farts like a bog, the girls will hit the shower to wash their snatch and bolt out the door, as soon as the monger grunts and drops his first load. LOL! Therefore, experiences may vary.

[Boofa69]

Every time I have asked the question, the mamasans claimed they didn't know what I was talking about. I have read reports on here that the LDs have been deductible in the past. Who knows? In any case, worth asking.

Yes, definetly worth asking for lady drinks deductions from the bar fine. I was there recently I had a barfine in dimples which is 3,900 pesos deducted to 3,000 bcoz I bought 3 lady drinks. Also another bar called coco lips the barfine was 3,600 pesos got it discounted to 3,100 bcoz I know the mamasan.

[MadisonGuy]

Mate, $10 here or there is not going to make any difference, since the monger has already spent thousands on his airfare and accommodation. In my experience, LA Cafe girls have only done ST with me as they claim they need to travel several hours to get home to their family, buy milk powder, medicine or go to work in the spa etc. Everyone's experience will vary.

No matter how swish your hotel, how comfortable your bed or how delicious your breakfast, a Pinay hooker always prefers to go home to sleep on the floor with her family and friends. They will do LT if they are desperate for the extra tip.

You definitely have a different experience than me then. In Philippines for me personally it has been a prime example of you pay them to leave, not pay them for their time. I've had some stage 5 clingers there that are extremely difficult to get out of my room. Not all of them are like that, but the majority for me are. I'm sure after a week or two they might get home sick, but I wouldn't expect to pay for any to stay with me for a week instead of just a night.