American Politics

[Travv]

Your are right, these "isolationist naysayer unsophisticated fools" think their lives will be better if they avoid military service in the trenches surrounding Kiev in 20 degree below zero weather! Let us know when you enlist in the Ukie Legion and keep us updated on your life in the trenches dodging Russian thermobaric rockets and napalm! Some of us "naysayer unsophisticated" here prefer to avoid World War III and getting nuked. You talk the talk, now it is time for you to walk the walk! LOL.

These are people in the isolationist mindset of Trump or Buchannan, they think their lives will be better, that they will have more money, or in the case here, more money to buy pussy, if we stay out of international conflicts. But that is drastically too simplistic. A world where authoritarianism wins over democracy will ultimately effect our friends in Europe as well as us. It is already effecting us, and anyone who believes backing down will offer relief, especially with someone like Putin, is a fool. It will only increase the pressure as weakness is betrayed, which is precisely what they are looking for. The vast majority of the GOP and the Dems say no fucking way. Our naysayers are typically dipshit shit kickers that lack the sophistication to analyze these matters.

[MarquisdeSade1]

It honestly baffles me how millions of Americans, who, unlike the Russians, have not been bombarded by endless government lies and propaganda day in and day out can have such cravings for authoritarianism. Seriously, I don't care about their political views, but this adoration for Putin is insane. 100 miles from Moscow or St. Petersburg people live in squalid conditions, often without heat, running water, or indoor plumbing. Only an idiot can think that Putin is an effective leader. There is debilitating unemployment, massive chronic alcoholism and relentless corruption everywhere, from schools to hospitals. These idiots love Putin for his tough talk, while the truth is he's a coward and always has been. He's an accidental president who got the job by being at the right place at the right time and by agreeing to commit every crime in the book his former masters asked him to. Yeah, what a great role model!

He's an accidental president who got the job by being at the right place at the right time and by agreeing to commit every crime in the book his former masters asked him to. Yeah, what a great role model.

Do you know what a house slave was?

Well you misspelled Barry Hussein.

https://eprints.soton.ac.uk/401783/

https://www.cato.org/commentary/why-...lling-children

https://theintercept.com/drone-paper...ation-complex/

https://www.esquire.com/news-politic...esidency-0812/

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.co...ikes-than-bush

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/12/17...dministration/

Then here again you misspell Zelensky.

People live in squalid conditions, often without heat, running water, or indoor plumbing. Only an idiot can think that Putin is an effective leader. There is debilitating unemployment, massive chronic alcoholism and relentless corruption everywhere, from schools to hospitals.

[Paulie97]

The reason I believe we should REALLY get on it is this. Left to its own devices Russia will always remain a threat to the world. One way or another, Russia must embrace democracy. Hell, we can see how a simple thug can turn into an empire-building maniac by staying in power for 20 years.

An ethical country doesn't stand by and watch a weaker but democratic one get mauled by a slimey tyrant. It's a true joy watching those ill designed Russian tanks get blown to bits. Anyone that doesn't like it needs to go to Russia and live, spread their poison around there and not in the states. That would include twits like Rand Paul, who blames NATO while ignoring the fact that former Soviet nations have agency, enjoyed freedom, wanted EU integration, and asked for protection knowing Russia's history of war crimes. Paul in his grandstanding is incapable of the simplest analysis, and needs to get back to prescribing eyeglasses.

[Paulie97]

It honestly baffles me how millions of Americans, who, unlike the Russians, have not been bombarded by endless government lies and propaganda day in and day out can have such cravings for authoritarianism.

Apparently you haven't watched the Fox News nightly lineup. They are been sucking up to Putin for ages and can't really turn back at this point and save face. He's often been the lead symbol of anti-democratic authoritarianism which is alive and well in the US and Europe. It's back on it's heels at the moment but pressure must be kept up to keep it there. We are in an ideological war.

[Paulie97]

It honestly baffles me how millions of Americans, who, unlike the Russians, have not been bombarded by endless government lies and propaganda day in and day out can have such cravings for authoritarianism. Seriously, I don't care about their political views, but this adoration for Putin is insane. 100 miles from Moscow or St. Petersburg people live in squalid conditions, often without heat, running water, or indoor plumbing. Only an idiot can think that Putin is an effective leader. There is debilitating unemployment, massive chronic alcoholism and relentless corruption everywhere, from schools to hospitals. These idiots love Putin for his tough talk, while the truth is he's a coward and always has been. He's an accidental president who got the job by being at the right place at the right time and by agreeing to commit every crime in the book his former masters asked him to. Yeah, what a great role model!

Hook up with me and I'll connect you with FB friends, both in the Ukraine and Russia. The former are grateful but feel they need more overhead support. The latter want no part of the shit, claim they have nothing against the Ukraine and want it to end. Granted all are under 30. They are all dismayed and frightened.

[Paulie97]

It honestly baffles me how millions of Americans, who, unlike the Russians, have not been bombarded by endless government lies and propaganda day in and day out can have such cravings for authoritarianism. Seriously, I don't care about their political views, but this adoration for Putin is insane. 100 miles from Moscow or St. Petersburg people live in squalid conditions, often without heat, running water, or indoor plumbing. Only an idiot can think that Putin is an effective leader. There is debilitating unemployment, massive chronic alcoholism and relentless corruption everywhere, from schools to hospitals. These idiots love Putin for his tough talk, while the truth is he's a coward and always has been. He's an accidental president who got the job by being at the right place at the right time and by agreeing to commit every crime in the book his former masters asked him to. Yeah, what a great role model!

These are people in the isolationist mindset of Trump or Buchannan, they think their lives will be better, that they will have more money, or in the case here, more money to buy pussy, if we stay out of international conflicts. But that is drastically too simplistic. A world where authoritarianism wins over democracy will ultimately effect our friends in Europe as well as us. It is already effecting us, and anyone who believes backing down will offer relief, especially with someone like Putin, is a fool. It will only increase the pressure as weakness is betrayed, which is precisely what they are looking for. The vast majority of the GOP and the Dems say no fucking way. Our naysayers are typically dipshit shit kickers that lack the sophistication to analyze these matters.

[Paulie97]

The reason I believe we should REALLY get on it is this. Left to its own devices Russia will always remain a threat to the world. One way or another, Russia must embrace democracy. Hell, we can see how a simple thug can turn into an empire-building maniac by staying in power for 20 years.

We have seen them, young and free Russians out in the streets, with VPNs, smartphones in hands willing to get beat up and jailed for their beliefs. I've talked to them on a regular basis in Instagram and FB. They are against what is going on but at the same time are scared. We need to support them however we can as well as Ukraine. Do not forget the Russian dissidents!

[Xpartan]

P.S. We should never give up on the idea of a free Russia as that is what many of their citizens, especially younger ones want.

The reason I believe we should REALLY get on it is this. Left to its own devices Russia will always remain a threat to the world. One way or another, Russia must embrace democracy. Hell, we can see how a simple thug can turn into an empire-building maniac by staying in power for 20 years.

[Xpartan]

It's just disgusting with all these older white male Americans with their noses planted up Vlad's cornhole. What we need to do is buy some large wooden shipping crates, punch some holes in the top, toss in some jugs of water, some pickled eggs and sausage and maybe some Rebel Yell or Jim Beam whiskey as act of mercy and deliver them on Russia's doorstep. That's where they belong as it's where their loyalties are, and in the US all they are doing is undercutting democracy fueling coups and pitching conspiracy theories. They can talk about liking the Russian pussy, but once over there for a while that dark world will absorb them and they will have no money for any of that. Slava Ukrainian.

It honestly baffles me how millions of Americans, who, unlike the Russians, have not been bombarded by endless government lies and propaganda day in and day out can have such cravings for authoritarianism. Seriously, I don't care about their political views, but this adoration for Putin is insane. 100 miles from Moscow or St. Petersburg people live in squalid conditions, often without heat, running water, or indoor plumbing. Only an idiot can think that Putin is an effective leader. There is debilitating unemployment, massive chronic alcoholism and relentless corruption everywhere, from schools to hospitals. These idiots love Putin for his tough talk, while the truth is he's a coward and always has been. He's an accidental president who got the job by being at the right place at the right time and by agreeing to commit every crime in the book his former masters asked him to. Yeah, what a great role model!

[EihTooms]

Says who? If you are an investor, you know when something is under priced, fairly priced, and over priced and buy and sell accordingly. Your definition of a long term investor (you are real good at defining investing phrases. You possess the ability of a Democrat, the typical Orwellian tongue of double speak) is not consistent with any I have heard of.

That was not a Buffett study, and it was only in the USA market which has had the greatest run in the history of stock markets in the last 100 years. If you have bought and hold in Europe in 1938, you would have lost your ass, so there was nothing proved conclusively dummy.

Now you are not keeping score? Weren't you bloviating about the one day rise after the Fed cut rates as expected?

You do not want to keep score when you are getting your ass kicked? Yeah, you are a Democrat and a hypocrite. Wait, aren't those the same things? Maybe you should spend more time on how to fairly value things and less on made up definitions.

If you think things are getting better, you are out of your mind. The Fed is going to start selling assets including mortgage backed securities from its balance sheet starting June 1. Do you know what that means for the housing market and market in general? Here is your homework. How does that affect the stock market?

In fact, I said nothing about the uptick the day the Fed raised rates. That was a side issue you introduced when you got stuck. Similar to your bizarre leap from the broad USA stock market to the European stock markets in this discussion. I merely pointed out the broad USA market closed firmly within Correction territory that day as it did in the days before and has in the days since while you have been hysterical about it crashing for months.

The Dow, your former favorite index for measuring the broad market and insisting the market is crashing, tanking, whatever for months before it consistently failed to deliver the horrible news you were hoping for and so you switched to the Nasdaq, is currently sitting at 10.75% below its all time record high close achieved under Biden.

If you have been taking notes, probably somewhere on page one of your notebook you will find my comments about single digit declines from record closing highs being considered nothing more that Sell-Offs, a decline between 10% and 20% being considered a Correction, which is actually generally a welcome, health-restoring event in the midst of a Bull Market Run and a decline closing greater than 20% being considered a Bear Market.

Much greater than that 20% and we're talking about Mega Bears, in my judgement, like the ones we had late in the previous 2 Repub potus administrations as well as before that and none in any Dem administration going back at least 100 years.

The S&P 500, Wall Streets go-to Index for measuring the broad USA market, is currently siting at about 14% below its all time record high close achieved under Biden.

Pop Quiz! Based on those closing numbers, where is the broad USA stock market (not Ethiopia's or the one on the Moon) sitting today?

I'll make it an easier Multiple Choice for you:

1) In a Sell-off.

2) In a Correction.

3) In a Bear Market.

4) None of the above.

5) All of the above.

6) Don't know.

7) But what about that stock market on the Moon?

[Elvis 2008]

A long term investor is not looking to move holdings in, out, in, out, etc of the market on the prospect of a potential Correction on the horizon.

Says who? If you are an investor, you know when something is under priced, fairly priced, and over priced and buy and sell accordingly. Your definition of a long term investor (you are real good at defining investing phrases. You possess the ability of a Democrat, the typical Orwellian tongue of double speak) is not consistent with any I have heard of.

But, as Buffet's famous bet proved conclusively, a long term investor who buys into a broadly based Index fund tracking, say, the S&P 500, rain or shine, high or low, through thick or thin, will kick the ass of virtually every professionally managed portfolio of stocks after doing what you described over a 10 year period.

That was not a Buffett study, and it was only in the USA market which has had the greatest run in the history of stock markets in the last 100 years. If you have bought and hold in Europe in 1938, you would have lost your ass, so there was nothing proved conclusively dummy.

Long term investors are not keeping score and calling it a game, set, match after 5 months.

Now you are not keeping score? Weren't you bloviating about the one day rise after the Fed cut rates as expected?

You do not want to keep score when you are getting your ass kicked? Yeah, you are a Democrat and a hypocrite. Wait, aren't those the same things? Maybe you should spend more time on how to fairly value things and less on made up definitions.

If you think things are getting better, you are out of your mind. The Fed is going to start selling assets including mortgage backed securities from its balance sheet starting June 1. Do you know what that means for the housing market and market in general? Here is your homework. How does that affect the stock market?

[MarquisdeSade1]

I've heard Rudy is dodging giving testimony under oath because he'll have to reveal what Trump told him was the real reason he encited and led that violent January 6, 2021 attack on America.

Yep, it was because Trump "smelled weakness" on the President of the United States at the time.

Same as always with these things.

https://www.newsmax.com/us/joe-biden...07/id/1068878/

[Paulie97]

I asked you very simply: "What would you do"?

Your answer was not to answer. "Both sides need to compromise and settle this, nobody is winning."

Can you read? Can you understand what you read? Do you know what I asked? Did you graduate from third grade or were you held back half-a-dozen times?

And he wants to turn it into a liberal / conservative, or CNN thing when the vast majority of the GOP supports the fundamentals of current Ukraine policy. That will include Fox News, who all want to make things very tough on Russia. Any "negotiation" will happen in it's own time, and not at the urgings of a simpleton in a hooker forum. And if we are looking for "hacks" we needn't look further than Rand Paul who need to go back to prescribing transition lenses.

[Paulie97]

The stupidity of the MAGA crowd is unbelievable. But the Orange Buffoon often stated that he liked his voters dumber than a box of rocks.

It's just disgusting with all these older white male Americans with their noses planted up Vlad's cornhole. What we need to do is buy some large wooden shipping crates, punch some holes in the top, toss in some jugs of water, some pickled eggs and sausage and maybe some Rebel Yell or Jim Beam whiskey as act of mercy and deliver them on Russia's doorstep. That's where they belong as it's where their loyalties are, and in the US all they are doing is undercutting democracy fueling coups and pitching conspiracy theories. They can talk about liking the Russian pussy, but once over there for a while that dark world will absorb them and they will have no money for any of that. Slava Ukrainian.

[Paulie97]

Allow me to try and translate your Newspeak.

1. The West should stop supporting Ukraine and let them dish it out mano a mano.

2. As soon as that happen, Putin (for some reason) will not push ahead in order to destroy Ukraine with maniacal and homicidal determination he's exhibited so far, but will somehow try to "compromise and settle. ".

Is that the gist of your suggestion?

Considering the complete and utter absurdity of this proposal, may I ask (again!) what goddamn hold does a two-bit thug and murderer Putin hold over you and your rightwing comrades?

No one invaded Serbia or Rwanda. The new governments of these countries handed over their war criminals to the ICC.

That's just two examples. There have been more.

And - what a funny thing - the West never had the leverage of crippling economic sanctions held over those two nations..

These ill educated rightwingnuts should just have a seat as they aren't capable of an intelligent discussion, even in a hooker forum. Putin wants all of Ukraine as he's been clear based on a highly slanted historical interpretation that he doesn't believe they have a right to exist. He made an official statement calling out NATO but knew we would never agree to prevent the Ukraine from ever joining, as we've had a longstanding open door policy. So there's another fake pretext for invading along with the "De-Nazification" hoghwash. If he can't take all of Ukraine he at least wants to destroy their economy by taking all the ports rendering them landlocked. He also wants Moldova and to go after NATO turning it back to pre-1997, as he has prior stated. He would do all of this and more if the appeasing isolationists had their way, while setting a most damaging international precedent, that stronger countries are free to swallow up weaker ones as long as they can, and without real consequences.

P.S. We should never give up on the idea of a free Russia as that is what many of their citizens, especially younger ones want.