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08-02-22 21:35 #9387
Posts: 3241Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
Thing is now we have another pro war idiot who is just as dense as Bush on the economy as president now. People I trust like Matt Taibbi have pointed out that the pro-war, neocon morons who wanted us to go to war in Iraq are now being sought out by Biden for advice. I think some if those fools may even switch parties. You can have them.
You think there is this huge gulf between Republicans and Democrats. Outside of his bone headed energy policy (and Bush's was boneheaded as well but in a different way), I see little difference between Biden and GW Bush. They both love war.
The best presidents in my life time (Reagan, Clinton, Obama, and Trump) all kept the peace.
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08-02-22 21:22 #9386
Posts: 3241Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
So we see a movie like 2000 mules and a woman who lives in another state put ballots into a ballot box wearing gloves, threw them out, and the pathetic excuse given, "it was during a pandemic don't you know", we just sit in shock. No one knows why she was wearing gloves, so why do you fools give out such an explanation?
Thing is PVM, we do not know what the fuck she was doing. She could have been stuffing the ballot box for Trump right? But you dumb Dems do not care if there was an election fraud. All you care about is the result, and if that woman is deposed, there is a chance the result you desire comes into question.
So when it came to Russiagate, Kavanaugh, Rittenhouse, Hunter Biden's laptop, and now election fraud, your goal was not truth but power, so we who vote Republican have totally tuned you out. And now you are blathering on about the significance of some second hand heresay. You have lost us again. You have shown that you have no respect for the rules of an election and want to cheat and get some group of people to disqualify Trump versus beating him in an election.
So let me repeat this fact. Russiagate was a fraud devised by Democrats and carried out by the FBI to illegally oust a duly elected president. Do you deny that PVM?
So you dumb Dems already committed fraud and tried to rig one election. That is a fact and amazingly when it came to 1-6, you dumb Dems think that had nothing to do with anything.
You are so dense it is inconceivable that people would riot and March because you were trying to commit election fraud not once but a second time. No, it had to be Trump.
If you do not care about the fraud that was Russiagate, why the hell should we care about 1-6?
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08-02-22 18:23 #9385
Posts: 720PV Acknowledges A. H. 's Critical Point
Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
So, PV Acknowledges my critical point that the reason the Secret Service were not asked to testify in front of Nancy's inquisition is that their firsthand testimony would have been exculpatory because their testimony would have completely contradicted the third hand testimony of the woman. I am not even going to mention her name anymore. Note: some posters on this thread may not know what exculpatory means. Ha ha.
In any case PV and I agree on something. Unbelievable, but apparently true. These are his words not mine. "If somebody flat out lies in your presence about something you said, you call bullshit immediately. " Absolutely right, and that is just what the two secret service agents riding in the car with Trump on Jan 6 did. They went public with it within hours of the woman's testimony and stated categorically that what the woman told the committee never happened. They also volunteered to testify under oath in front of the committee to what they witnessed firsthand that day in the limo. But the committee did not call them. Game set match. The committee hearings are nothing more than choreographed soviet style show trial. A propaganda ballet.
Note to our literary challenged radical bm's: my reference to a "soviet style show trial" is an analogy.
So, PV may not have been aware that the 2 secret service agents came forward right after the woman testified and denied her version of what took place. The corporate news media tends not to report political news that does not support the leftwing narrative. The woman 's shocking testimony was allowed to dominate at least one news cycle before the whole truth came out. The committee knew this would happen and played the corporate news media like a violin. This is a problem worthy of further discussion, the political corruption of the 5th Estate, but not now. It is like pulling teeth on this web site to prove the committee is not concerned with finding out what really happened on Jan 6 and even now with undeniable proof presented as to their bias, I know that most if not all of the ISG radicals will refuse to concede the point. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.
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08-02-22 17:05 #9384
Posts: 1127Unhinged Tweets, meets More Consequences
Originally Posted by Paulie97 [View Original Post]
As this RethugliKKKant armed rioter, Guy Reffitt, now feels the DOJ "consequences boot", derived directly from the mad capped, unhinged tweets of Agent Orange.
More suffering for Americans, albeit this time, justified and well placed suffering.
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08-02-22 16:34 #9383
Posts: 1127Agent Orange, Foxy News...leads to comic relief
Originally Posted by Elvis [View Original Post]
He had months to act before the severity of the virus got out of hand and save American lives and he did nothing. Naturally, with his racist and bigoted arrogance (for anything Obama), he threw out the Pandemic Response Playbook, thereby laying a very clear, direct path and an unequivocal trail of ineptitude and incompetence, that most certainly lead to the many hundreds of thousands of preventable COVID deaths.
Originally Posted by Elvis [View Original Post]Originally Posted by PV Monger [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Elvis [View Original Post]
Well, Elvis, with you being a staunch purveyor of Foxy News (hint: which is really just entertainment, but most of the time, just comic relief disguised as news), I'm sure you'll have no trouble relating to any future reports from me.
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08-02-22 14:07 #9382
Posts: 1604A good read
The following is an excerpt from the following article. I have chosen not to include some parts because they relate to the "local politics" of the area from where the person who wrote the article lives. However, the article makes some excellent points. https://news.yahoo.com/ray-buursma-c...041513238.html.
Yes, Trump committed treason.
The Jan. 6 hearings are completed (maybe). Anyone with a smattering of gray matter between the ears recognizes Donald Trump did the following:
1. Rejected the results of a legitimate election.
2. Made illegal, immoral and unethical attempts to maintain his presidency.
3. Gathered supporters for a rally in Washington, the. See. , on Jan. 6, 2021.
4. Encouraged those supporters to preempt the proceedings which would announce the next president.
5. Took no sincere action for three hours to end an attempted insurrection at the Capitol, but instead attempted to contact senators so they would halt constitutional proceedings.
6. Chose to sacrifice the well being and even the life of Vice President Pence, if necessary, so Pence would not declare Biden to be America's next president.
None of this is new, and we need not rehash specifics of Trump's misbehavior. His offenses have been presented over and over, culminating with the last bipartisan Congressional hearing less than two weeks ago.
What of those who still support Trump?
Today we address not Trump, but those who still back him. Let's start by defining two terms.
Treason is attempting to overthrow a nation's government.
A traitor is a person who commits treason.
Based on these definitions and his actions above, Trump is clearly a traitor, but what of the tens of millions who still condone him? What do we call those who committed no overt treasonous act but still stand behind the orchestrator of Jan. 6?
Well, what do we call one who condones a wife beater, a child molester, or a thief? He is not guilty of a crime, but is he an enabler? A facilitator? A booster? An ally? He certainly is reprehensible, but for now, let's call him a "supporter."
Trump supporters come in two types. Some blatantly and overtly endorse the usurper. They still wear MAGA hats, fly Trump flags and display his yard signs and bumper stickers.
Others are closet supporters. They side with Trump but seldom announce their backing, for doing so would appear morally awkward. They are like KKK supporters who do not don pointy white hoods, but still urge their buddies to "Have fun at the cross burning and lynching!" When asked to justify their approval for Trump, most say, "I don't like Trump, but I like his policies."
"Liking policies" might cover a few sins, but "liking policies" can never, ever justify an attempter insurrection or coup, and Trump did nothing less. Atonement is impossible without repentance, and Trump, clearly, is unrepentant. There is no way around this. Remaining a Trump supporter makes one vile to America, vile to the Constitution, and vile to American values.
Jesus, in Matthew 5: 27-28, stated he who lusts after a woman has already committed adultery in his heart. That being so, why should those who condone the traitorous leader of an insurrection not be called traitors?
The author of the article goes on to ask a few questions of a particular local politician. Maybe we ought to ask the same questions of the RethugliKKKans who post here:
First, do you dispute Trump took the six actions listed above? If no, please explain.
Second, do you consider those actions treasonous? If no, please explain.
Third, do you still support Trump? If so, please explain.
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08-02-22 11:50 #9381
Posts: 720Xpartan, in order to defend Pelosi's disgraceful congressional committee proceedings, you are not only misrepresenting what I posted, you are dancing around what actually occurred in the house of Representatives. Why won't you address the relevant issue? Why were the two eyewitnesses to whatever actually occurred in the limo not called to testify under oath? Your silence about the Secret Service agent's firsthand information being ignored by the committee and your foolish attempt to dance around the issue confirms your absolute political bias and concedes the point that the House committee is not interested in finding the truth about what actually occurred on Jan 6. Shame on you and shame on your party.
Unfortunately, from your point of view these hearings failed. Nobody tuned in to watch and the hearings failed to distract the American people from the colossal failures and outrageous behavior of the Biden administration. Namely the economy "stupid", the border chaos, the violence in the streets of all Democratic party controlled cities, and the communist critical race theory and trany indoctrination being forced on our school children. So, November is fast approaching. I can't wait.
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08-02-22 07:06 #9380
Posts: 1968Originally Posted by Paulie97 [View Original Post]
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08-02-22 04:29 #9379
Posts: 1604Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
AxeH says "Elvis just told me that the President of the company punched out his aide while on the way to the airport". (Elvis was in the car with the President of the company and saw the incident).
If the story was false, (ie. Elvis never said what AxeH related) would Elvis just sit there quietly and not say a word? Not on your life. He would, right then and there refute what AxeH said. Because that's what people do. If somebody flat out lies in your presence about something you said, you call bullshit immediately.
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08-02-22 02:31 #9378
Posts: 3241Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
By the way, where are all the articles about people who died from Covid after Biden said you could not get it if vaccinated? Where are those hundreds of articles?
When a Republican talks, words mean things. When a Democrat talks, what does the word words mean? Does that not depend on what your definition of is is?
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08-02-22 02:16 #9377
Posts: 1680Well
Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
Watch Dr. Birx's reaction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d57zJr82dhQ
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08-01-22 22:49 #9376
Posts: 1680Great News
Keep bringing the traitors before the bench.
"USA District Judge Dabney L. Friedrich condemned Reffitt's conduct in handing down an 87-month sentence, saying in a nearly six-hour-long hearing that his views espousing political violence were 'absurd,' 'delusional' and "way outside of the mainstream. What Reffitt and others did at the Capitol 'is the antithesis of patriotism,' Friedrich said, adding: "Not only are they not patriots, they are a direct threat to our democracy, and will be punished as such. ".
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md...sentence-jan6/
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08-01-22 22:41 #9375
Posts: 1604Lots of RethugliKKKants did!
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
All one needs to do is to google "poison control calls after trump inject disinfectant remarks". There are hundreds of articles.
This is something that RethugliKKKants can't seem to wrap their minds around. Words matter. When someone like tRUMP says "Why don't we look into injecting disinfectant as a cure for COVID", thousands of his supporters start drinking bleach martinis. You may have thought it was a joke but thousands of tRUMP supporters didn't. And tRUMP didn't think it was a joke either because he said that he never jokes. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...testing-335459.
Words matter. Ask any of the traitors who tried to overthrow the Government on January 6th, 2021. They all said that they were there because tRUMP wanted them to be there and wanted them to do what they did. https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-...apitol-1561718.
"We're gathered together in the heart of our nation's Capitol for one very, very basic and simple reason, to save our democracy. ".
"We will not let them silence your voices. We're not going to let it happen. Not going to let it happen. ".
"Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore and that's what this is all about. To use a favorite term that all of you people really came up with, we will stop the steal. ".
"That's what they've done and what they're doing. We will never give up. We will never concede, it doesn't happen. You don't concede when there's theft involved. ".
"When you catch somebody in a fraud, you're allowed to go by very different rules. ".
"Let them get out. Let the weak ones get out. This is a time for strength. It's all part of the comprehensive assault on our democracy and the American people to finally standing up and saying, 'No. ' This crowd is again a testament to it. ".
"You will have an illegitimate president, that's what you'll have. And we can't let that happen. ".
"We will not be intimidated into accepting the hoaxes and the lies that we've been forced to believe over the past several weeks. We've amassed overwhelming evidence about a fake election. ".
"We're going to see whether or not we have great and courageous leaders or whether or not we have leaders that should be ashamed of themselves throughout history, throughout eternity, they'll be ashamed. And you know what? If they do the wrong thing, we should never ever forget that they did. Never forget. We should never ever forget. ".
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08-01-22 05:01 #9374
Posts: 5462A mini recession, purposely induced for a good economic 'problem' to have? Or none?
Or, as Repubs would say, "The Worstest Mostest Terriblest Great Recession of all time"! LOL.
One chart shows why an official recession call isn't coming anytime soon
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/reces...html?.tsrc=372
My god. The charted and cited GDP Growth and Jobs Creation results and trends after Trump took office and passed his $2. 5 Trillion failed economic "stimulus" bill vs what Biden has accomplished in just 18 months were truly pathetic. Biden has done a better job of recovering us from the Trump presidency disaster than even I thought.
Biden has created a MILLION more jobs in just the first 6 months of 2022 than in the ENTIRETY of Trump's "best" pre Trump's Pandemic year of 2019!
After which Trump's godawful economic decisions since at least 2018 wiped out 10+ MILLION jobs!
Still, typically pro Repub Mainstream Media (CNN included, I am sure) kept telling its viewers all through the 2020 presidential election campaign that Trump should spend more time talking up his good economy. LOL. Seriously.
You know, the critical election factor that many people gullible enough to believe MSM's self-serving spin on it think is better handled by Repubs than by Dems, don't you know.
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08-01-22 04:11 #9373
Posts: 1604ROFL, again
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
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