Medellin Reports

[Orgasmico]

In my opinion there is little difference from fucking in a casa (where the overall business model is built around your safety and the client busting a nut) and your own house (here you might know the layout better). Unless you have amazing security or are staying at the mansion where you can leave your money in the open and (almost) not worry, both options present a degree of safety and risk.

Obviously, a casa can also be the testing ground to determine if a chica is even worthy of you bringing back into your personal space. Also, if you bring a casa chica to your place and something happens at least there is a paper trail back to the casa and people that know her. Not saying this is full proof, but it may be better than relying on the totally unknown of SOME internet situations and random street workers.

[Mr Enternational]

In my opinion there is little difference from fucking in a casa (where the overall business model is built around your safety and the client busting a nut) and your own house (here you might know the layout better).

The difference is ambiance and creature comforts. The girl is no different. Casa has cold water in the shower, room may be too hot, bed may not be as comfortable as you want. You pretty much have to decide if controlling those aspects are worth the 100K or whatever difference in price it would be to have a chick come to you. For me it is generally not. I deal with a lot of non-pros that will come over and I can get the romance and comfortable sessions in with them. But if someone is only dealing with hookers I can understand paying the price to get them to come for a more comfortable session.

[WindAngel]

Good common sense advice here, opposed to bragging and blah blah blah.

I'm pretty sure the Secret Service guy wishes he would've just paid up.

Eventually your actions will catch up to you.
Maybe not today, tomorrow or next week, but eventually they will.

Just use common sense.

Put it in a different context but similar situation, if I pick up a girl at Gusto for 300, after sex the girl demands 300 USD and I only want to pay 300 KCOP, are you saying that I have to pay 300 USD to the girl because it is common sense?

[Baudelairemod]

In my opinion there is little difference from fucking in a casa (where the overall business model is built around your safety and the client busting a nut) and your own house (here you might know the layout better). Unless you have amazing security or are staying at the mansion where you can leave your money in the open and (almost) not worry, both options present a degree of safety and risk.

Didn't quite get what the whole pictures argument was about. Are we now saying that unless somebody has pictures, we won't believe him? Surely we're not teenagers anymore who need to have proof of our sexual prowess? Come on guys!

Just take pictures with the camera in your mind and hope you don't get Alzheimer!

[JjBee62]

If you lived in Medellin and not just visited I could take the rebuttal serious. You are just like the others who try and use fear tactics to scare new mongers. Safety is knowing your environment. What does me kicking several girls out have to do with them having cousins, brothers & friends. We all have them, they don't enhance or make the experience better or worse. Back to the topic of safety, disrobing in an unfamiliar environment is always a risk. As for scaring me, I was in centro 17 times in 2018, I'm the last monger to strike fear into through a post. I love all the great post from board members that never provide other members anything but a great story, there's a reason photos are worth a thousand words. Imagine photoprepagos without any photos, all is fair and understood! Pollo negro is out!

I lived in Medellin for 354 consecutive days, which I've stated before. I'm now back in the US, which has nothing to do with the points I made. That time started April 8, 2017 and ended March 28,2018. In 2018 alone, in less than 3 months I was in El Centro at least 75 times. I went there nearly every day, sometimes twice a day. I've been all over El Centro, from El Mirador down to the river. Between late July 2017 and when I left I probably walked 400 miles or more in El Centro. I even rode my bike through El Centro a few times. I've taken a lot of mongers and even a few Colombians and given them tours of El Centro. My last night in Medellin, I spent, until after midnight, 50' below the warzone above El Centro, hanging with some Colombian friends at their house. They all walked with me far enough down the hill to catch a taxi, because taxis won't go there at night. Now are you ready to take the rebuttal serious?

I don't try to scare new mongers. I also don't recommend they do stupid things. Quite the opposite. I've told a lot of guys how to get around in El Centro. I've also told them to find their own comfort zone. If El Centro freaks them out, they can go somewhere else. I don't try to force them to like El Centro, or to do things they aren't comfortable with.

Disrobing in an unfamiliar environment is always a risk? Always? You must be terrified of doctor's offices. For your sake, I hope you never join a gym. Oh the horror!

Disrobing in a casa is safer than disrobing in your own room. Why? Because the casa has to protect the patrons. How long would New Life be around if the girls were robbing the customers? How long would they be in business if they are letting guys in to rob and murder the customers? It's also safer because you've limited your risk. The girl isn't going to steal your laptop, or the 800 k pesos you've got stashed in your room. She's not going to drug you and clean you out. She's not going to pull out a straight razor and try to slash your throat. The only risk you face is that she'll either be lousy in bed, or she'll waste some time and you'll pay an extra $4.

The reason why it matters that every one of these girls has lots of friends and family, is that you're just another gringo. If you bring a girl to your room and then refuse to pay her because you found fault with her, she's not likely to just accept the constructive criticism. If she finds herself stuck, because she had promised the money, you agreed to pay, to someone else, she's going to call someone, crying for help. If she cries loud enough, then someone might decide you need to pay up, one way or another. It happens a few times a year in Medellin. If you're kicking out several girls, because you haven't learned how to pick them, you're eventually going to meet up with a pissed off Colombian.

No gringo ever gets killed in a casa. Gringos either get killed on the street, or in their room.

I'm not saying don't take girls to your room. I'm saying, if you make a deal with a girl, stick to the deal. Don't try to shame her. Don't try to kick her out without paying her. Give her the money and make a note not to call her again. You're out $30? $50? You're the guy who claimed to have unlimited money. Surely you can handle the cost of a meal at a decent US restaurant. If it happens in a casa, don't argue for a refund. Pay the fee and then mention the issue to the manager. Show respect, be polite and it will go a long way.

I don't provide pictures to other mongers, because a picture is worthless. You just proved that in the Bogota thread. You see a couple pictures of girls that are about average and suddenly, you're thinking you need to go to Bogota. Those pictures won't tell you anything about how those girls will respond to you. More importantly, they won't tell you where to find those girls 3 months from now.

Photosprepagos is an ad site. The girls advertising there are looking for customers. Those pictures tell you very little. Hold that picture up to your nose. Does that pussy smell clean? What about the ass? Can that picture handle a real deep throat, or is it just going to take 4 inches? Does that picture fuck like it hasn't had good dick for 3 years, or does the picture just lay there and make fake moaning noises? Was that picture taken last week, or 2 years ago? The pictures are nice to look at. That's all. You're going to have a lot of disappointing experiences if you're choosing based solely on looks, even more if you're going just off of pictures.

The only good thing about pictures is that a lot of people who will never go to Colombia, will pay for a membership so they can see pictures of the girls they'll never fuck.

I don't write many reviews on individual girls. I have no desire to be a pimp. Nobody is paying me to advertise. I'm not getting a discount because 7 mongers hit someone up after I wrote a review. Even if I did, it's next to useless to most guys. Do they smell clean? Did they brush their teeth and put on deodorant? Are they wearing clean clothes? Do they understand the concept of manscaping? Will they treat the girl the way I treat her? Will they look like me? Will they fuck like me? If the answer to all these questions isn't yes, then why would you expect her to fuck like she's with me?

YMMV. Learn it. Accept it.

Instead of writing stories, or telling everyone how incredible I am, I give advice. I answer questions. I direct people to resources that they need. I share with them the knowledge I gained. I don't give them WhatsApp numbers of girls who might want nothing to do with them. I might, in rare cases, give a number for one girl, to one guy, but only after asking the girl if she's interested. It keeps him from wasting her time, her from wasting his time and both of them from griping at me and wasting my time. In other cases, I might recommend a contact to help with a specific thing.

Mostly, I try to tell guys how to make the most of their visit. Not by doing things the way I do them, but by finding the way that works best for them.

I'll repeat one last thing. If you want to talk about all the problems with casas, first go to some casas. Don't be badmouthing some place you've never seen, all because some guy says he had a bad time there.

[Balboa]

... I've done the casas. I've done plenty of girls in my apartment. For good measure, I've done plenty of girls in love motels. I've had a few experiences that didn't meet my requirements. So I paid the girl, sent her on her way and learned from the experience. I learned how to look at a casa girl and tell if she's just going to go through the motions, or if she's going to make a real effort. In the rare case where I'm wrong, I paid 50 k for average sex with an above average looking girl. That's cheaper than having 2 beers with someone who is going to shut you down at her door. I'll take the loss ...

Good common sense advice here, opposed to bragging and blah blah blah.

I'm pretty sure the Secret Service guy wishes he would've just paid up.

Eventually your actions will catch up to you.
Maybe not today, tomorrow or next week, but eventually they will.

Just use common sense.

Balboa out!

[PolloNegro]

You must readily recognize the fear tactics and those who are settling for poor service due to so called nationality. As one member said, The reason why you keep your end of the bargain is because she has friends, brothers, cousins, uncles and a whole network of people who want to protect her. All you've got is money and some people around you, who enjoy money. You kick enough girls out because they won't follow your script and eventually you'll end up being just another news story that will panic the gringos for a few days.

Unless you have been a News story, why do fellow board members do this? Clearly you have no idea how negotiations work and how a deal works. I don't care if I'm in south Afghanistan with Bin Laden's brother and hand grenade, if you agree to a deal with me and chose to not carry out the agreement, you will not be paid, I don't care if you have, "friends, brothers, cousins, uncles and a whole network of people who want to protect you!' Clearly someone in Medellin has either smashed your head, or scared you enough to make you post what you post. Money talks in Medellin, and we all know how board members bash other board members about speaking about money, but according to you, it is clear, that as an American in Medellin, we are only subject to the treatment the girls chooses to give us, and we must still pay her a said amount because she had "friends, brothers, cousins, uncles and a whole network of people who want to protect her." and you wonder why the girls take advantage of mongers like you? Pollo Negro is out!

[PolloNegro]

Safety= protecting your health, property and general well-being.

Not safety= fucking in your room because you get a better fuck that way.

Casas= places where you pay to have sex with a woman. The casa is responsible to provide you with a. A woman, be. A room. The woman is responsible to provide you with sex. Nowhere in there is a requirement it will be the best sex of your life. Nowhere does it say the girl must do everything you ask. Nowhere does it say you have to enjoy it. And nowhere does it say you have to ever return. They provide, you pay.

Now if anyone is telling you that they went to a casa, had sex, weren't happy with the sex and then argued with management about paying, they are an idiot. You should advise them never to leave their home and if they can afford it, to hire someone to keep them from doing stupid things. The time to complain about the girl is before, not after the sex.

Now to the heart of your "safety" issue: Being able to not pay a woman, who you agreed to pay, because you're not satisfied with the way she fucked. You think this is a good idea in your room? Go find the whiny casa guy and see if he can recommend someone to keep you from doing stupid shit.

Once you take a girl to your room, the safe move is to keep your end of the bargain. If you told her 100 k, then she should come out with 100 k. If she wasn't up to your standards, it's because you did a poor job of picking a girl. If you can't figure out which one is going to be fun in bed by now, you should hang it up. Instead, you try to blame her and punish her for your poor judgement..

If you lived in Medellin and not just visited I could take the rebuttal serious. You are just like the others who try and use fear tactics to scare new mongers. Safety is knowing your environment. What does me kicking several girls out have to do with them having cousins, brothers & friends. We all have them, they don't enhance or make the experience better or worse. Back to the topic of safety, disrobing in an unfamiliar environment is always a risk. As for scaring me, I was in centro 17 times in 2018, I'm the last monger to strike fear into through a post. I love all the great post from board members that never provide other members anything but a great story, there's a reason photos are worth a thousand words. Imagine photoprepagos without any photos, all is fair and understood! Pollo negro is out!

[Turgid]

................... A common New Life trick if you don't let girls chit chat is to try to get you to stay in the room while they shower and straighten up after you're done. They will say, "just a minute, I will walk out with you. " My advice is once you are done, go straight to the cashier unless you have extra cash you need to get rid of............

Lets say a girl gives me poor service in a casa and I don't climax I then abort the session, put on my clothes and leave the room. Girls in FKKs in Germany hate that but I've never encountered a casa girl who protested. If the casa girl gives me good service I have no problem with her taking her sweet time in the shower and to straighten up afterwards. She may not get a propina though if, for example, her extra time took the session from a 45 minute one to one hour.

[Horny Goats]

Nice rooms too.

Yes, spacious and clean.

[JjBee62]

Many members have recently informed me of the terrible service the casa girls have been providing and even after complaining to management, the customer was told he still has to pay, even if the service was subpar. The safety issue is this, if you decide to raise hell about your pesos's you're at the mercy of the establishment, whereas if she comes to your room, you can give her taxi fair and send her on her way. I'm not the sharpest tool in the tool box but you are damn sure at a disadvantage when you disrobe in an unfamiliar environment IE, casa, but I clearly see it is seen as a preference. Not one member who has voiced a recent complaint said to me, this poor service occurred at my room and I still had to pay her. Maybe its the thrill for those who use casas's, I like using the room in which I set up, not the one that was set up for me to use. All is fair, and understood! Pollo negro is out!

Safety= protecting your health, property and general well-being.

Not safety= fucking in your room because you get a better fuck that way.

Casas= places where you pay to have sex with a woman. The casa is responsible to provide you with a. A woman, be. A room. The woman is responsible to provide you with sex. Nowhere in there is a requirement it will be the best sex of your life. Nowhere does it say the girl must do everything you ask. Nowhere does it say you have to enjoy it. And nowhere does it say you have to ever return. They provide, you pay.

Now if anyone is telling you that they went to a casa, had sex, weren't happy with the sex and then argued with management about paying, they are an idiot. You should advise them never to leave their home and if they can afford it, to hire someone to keep them from doing stupid things. The time to complain about the girl is before, not after the sex.

Now to the heart of your "safety" issue: Being able to not pay a woman, who you agreed to pay, because you're not satisfied with the way she fucked. You think this is a good idea in your room? Go find the whiny casa guy and see if he can recommend someone to keep you from doing stupid shit.

Once you take a girl to your room, the safe move is to keep your end of the bargain. If you told her 100 k, then she should come out with 100 k. If she wasn't up to your standards, it's because you did a poor job of picking a girl. If you can't figure out which one is going to be fun in bed by now, you should hang it up. Instead, you try to blame her and punish her for your poor judgement.

The reason why you keep your end of the bargain is because she has friends, brothers, cousins, uncles and a whole network of people who want to protect her. All you've got is money and some people around you, who enjoy money. You kick enough girls out because they won't follow your script and eventually you'll end up being just another news story that will panic the gringos for a few days.

I've done the casas. I've done plenty of girls in my apartment. For good measure, I've done plenty of girls in love motels. I've had a few experiences that didn't meet my requirements. So I paid the girl, sent her on her way and learned from the experience. I learned how to look at a casa girl and tell if she's just going to go through the motions, or if she's going to make a real effort. In the rare case where I'm wrong, I paid 50 k for average sex with an above average looking girl. That's cheaper than having 2 beers with someone who is going to shut you down at her door. I'll take the loss.

If you want to talk about safety, talk about safety. If you want to talk about taking pictures of the girls you fuck, talk about that. If you want to talk about why you like fucking in your room. But if you want to talk about casa experiences, maybe you should first get some casa experience.

[Mr Enternational]

I am talking with several women on CC, but most of them are in their 40's. Beautiful body and girl next door type. Only problem is that most of them are working and will spend only a weekend with me, which is better for me. I can monger rest of the time, but they are very possessive and think of me as their future husband.

Actually the game has changed. You will be lucky if any of those broads show up. I have been on Cupid since 2005. Used to be that 10 out of 10 would show up. These days if 1 out of 10 show then it is good.

The other day I had chicks from Cupid lined up in Medellin. One chick even wanted the hotel address and room number. Said she would be there at a certain time. NOPE! Other chicks went dark. Delete. Other chicks had excuses. Delete. Actually I ended up meeting ZERO chicks from Cupid the four days I was there. The online chicks that I did meet were ones from Tinder that actually came the day after we first started talking.

And it was the same shit in Peru the week before. The only Cupid chick that came was one that I only said 2 sentences to the day before. She said I can't come today because I work in the morning, but I can come after work tomorrow. She showed up the next day and ended up staying with me. And might I add the week before that in Brazil, SAME FUCKING THING. 1 chick showed up. I am seeing the trend that if you talk to chicks way ahead of time trying to get to know them, they don't show up. The ones you start talking to when you have boots on the ground are the ones that are showing up. And these are all non-pros.

[PolloNegro]

Thank you for taking the time to write this. It has nothing to do with safety. It seems to be about your preference for bringing girls to your room instead of going to casas. I'm glad it works for you. It works for some other guys and not so much for some other guys. More often than not, in my opinion, the experience in a room is going to be more comfortable than the experience in a casa. Even the casas where you pay extra for comfortable rooms (Energy, Loutron, Tantra, etc.).

As far as performance, I think the casa management is generally on the side of the customer. The too long in the shower thing can be a problem if guys let it become a problem. The solution is very simple, leave the room and tell the girl to come get you when she is ready. A common New Life trick if you don't let girls chit chat is to try to get you to stay in the room while they shower and straighten up after you're done. They will say, "just a minute, I will walk out with you. " My advice is once you are done, go straight to the cashier unless you have extra cash you need to get rid of. I still don't see what that has to do with safety.

Many members have recently informed me of the terrible service the casa girls have been providing and even after complaining to management, the customer was told he still has to pay, even if the service was subpar. The safety issue is this, if you decide to raise hell about your pesos's you're at the mercy of the establishment, whereas if she comes to your room, you can give her taxi fair and send her on her way. I'm not the sharpest tool in the tool box but you are damn sure at a disadvantage when you disrobe in an unfamiliar environment IE, casa, but I clearly see it is seen as a preference. Not one member who has voiced a recent complaint said to me, this poor service occurred at my room and I still had to pay her. Maybe its the thrill for those who use casas's, I like using the room in which I set up, not the one that was set up for me to use. All is fair, and understood! Pollo negro is out!

[Knowledge]

Yes, yes, yes, and yes.

I'm not a casa guy myself but for a different reason and that is I don't like sessioning onsite and am not a 30-60 minute kind of guy either. That said, casas are generally one of the safest places to have sex with a hooker. How many reports are there of guys being drugged and robbed and / or killed in a casa, I've never heard of one. All of the horror stories are of dumb assed gringos bringing girls to their apartments and not following known protocol like watching their drinks, not bringing multiple girls, not locking their shit up and just generally bringing the wrong girls back to their apartments.

[Knowledge]

Nice rooms too.

I went to this casa for the first time in awhile this afternoon. Around 10 girls, including a handful of new gems. (At least new to me.) Had a very nice session with Angie. 45 K for 30 minutes.