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Trevor2522
03-06-25, 14:50
I appreciate there are 'Throwaway Reservation / Ticket' outfits online, who will very-cheaply furnish 'evidence' of a ticket out -- to show airline check-in & immigration on the outward leg. However, these have dubious legal standing and can be rejected -- forcing travellers to buy a full-fare ticket out of the PI at the last moment. There is an American on YT called 'Vagabond Dan', who travels continuously with a 6-foot, Malaysian ex-model; he uses those dodgy tickets most of the time but admits they do get caught occasionally, and have to buy full fare at the last moment to board.
Philippine embassies do offer a 59-day 'Temporary Visitors Visa', which still requires evidence of ticketing, but at least one can book the dates confidently for a 2-month trip, without the need for airline change fees.
Thought I was being clever buying an Oman Air economy 'Flex' ticket with 'No Change Fees'. So I could extend my return date, once in for the initial 30 days. I then extended for 29 days online (permitted once only, apparently), costing ₱3,030, which went through smoothly -- although I did have to email immigration for the result of my application -- the Philippines is notorious for inviting online applications for anything, then totally 'forgetting' to inform the applicant of the result, LOL.
Returning to Oman Air, they want to charge me the same as my original return ticket again ($930), for a one-month extension of the return date. A friend travelling on Emirates was charged a reasonable fee of $140 for his return-date change, partly by being flexible on the timing. Airlines especially take advantage of 'date-changers' at busy times, and charge inflated prices, plus their standard fees. It is difficult to pin them down as to the cost of date changes after departure. I am minded to take a minimal sector refund from Oman Air and book my homeward flight elsewhere. The 'Trading Standards Department' back home will be interested to hear what they are up to: playing their third-world games in the West.
Regarding my earlier point below about the morality of 'compensated dating', as the Japanese call it: if a clear, P4P arrangement is made, that's fine. My point was that most Filipinas on dating sites are willing to go out with foreigners in the conventional sense, and panty-drop after a modicum of 'treats', in prospect of an ongoing relationship. It is up to players' conscience as to whether it is fair to string well-intentioned females along in that way, with little cost or investment being expended.
I appreciate there are 'Throwaway Reservation / Ticket' outfits online, who will very-cheaply furnish 'evidence' of a ticket out -- to show airline check-in & immigration on the outward leg. However, these have dubious legal standing and can be rejected -- forcing travellers to buy a full-fare ticket out of the PI at the last moment. There is an American on YT called 'Vagabond Dan', who travels continuously with a 6-foot, Malaysian ex-model; he uses those dodgy tickets most of the time but admits they do get caught occasionally, and have to buy full fare at the last moment to board.
Don't forget that an onward ticket is required twice: once when you arrive in NAIA but also when you first get your boarding pass at your home country Departures. Without an onward ticket it's likely you won't even be allowed to board.
I've had to show an onward ticket at NAIA maybe 25% of the time.
I've had to show an onward ticket at home Departures 100% of the time before being welcomes aboard.
NAIA immigration will accept that extensions are a formality and be ok with a ticket out in 58 days. None of my home airlines will. I always get a dummy ticket for $15. I've never heard of them being refused.
Enjoy. G.
Old And Ugly
03-07-25, 03:33
Don't forget that an onward ticket is required twice: once when you arrive in NAIA but also when you first get your boarding pass at your home country Departures. Without an onward ticket it's likely you won't even be allowed to board.
I've had to show an onward ticket at NAIA maybe 25% of the time.
I've had to show an onward ticket at home Departures 100% of the time before being welcomes aboard.
NAIA immigration will accept that extensions are a formality and be ok with a ticket out in 58 days. None of my home airlines will. I always get a dummy ticket for $15. I've never heard of them being refused.
Enjoy. G.Don't forget the eGovPH app.
Trevor2522
03-07-25, 03:58
I always get a dummy ticket for $15. I've never heard of them being refused.Good point about check-in at the home airport. Airlines don't want to be fined if the destination rejects them for lack of an onward ticket. Actual onward/return flight costs can vary significantly by date, so try to be flexible. Which company do you use for those temporary, 'check-in' tickets?
On SE Asian regional flights: Low-Cost Carriers vs. Major Airlines ... the former could be considered false economy because of poor timings, added checked-baggage fees and their point-to-point (non-guaranteed) nature. I prefer to pay very little more with Thai or Philippine Airlines to avoid those inconveniences and hectic check-in lines, plus enjoy better seats.
Which company do you use for those temporary, 'check-in' tickets?
Don't forget the eGovPH app.I use Top Onward Ticket but here are many to choose from if you Google 'Onward Ticket'.
A good point. Trying to key in the data in the immigration area upon arrival is a major PITA due to very unreliable cell and wifi data. Definitely do it before departure.
Enjoy. G.
WestCoast1
03-07-25, 09:29
PSA. Updated e-Travel video by vlogger Jennifer Terri. Apparently the e-Travel app and website has been updated a tad, to allow the BI to better integrate with foreign law enforcement (she mentioned Interpol). Also a warning about utilizing 'fixer' websites to obtain police clearances or e-Travel registration (see pix). Relevant info in this 8-minute vid for foreigners is the first 3 minutes. In another similar video she said that e-Travel registration is tied to your PP. So when you enter the Phils and the Immigration officer swipes your PP, your e-Travel info comes up on his screen (you no longer need to show your e-Travel QR code or such).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Feq8T13WMc
PSA. Updated e-Travel video by vlogger Jennifer Terri. Apparently the e-Travel app and website has been updated a tad, to allow the BI to better integrate with foreign law enforcement (she mentioned Interpol). Also a warning about utilizing 'fixer' websites to obtain police clearances or e-Travel registration (see pix). Relevant info in this 8-minute vid for foreigners is the first 3 minutes. In another similar video she said that e-Travel registration is tied to your PP. So when you enter the Phils and the Immigration officer swipes your PP, your e-Travel info comes up on his screen (you no longer need to show your e-Travel QR code or such).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Feq8T13WMcI've never needed a police clearance for anything, but why would anyone knowingly use an agency to do their eTravel? It is only a few minutes and not painful to do. I don't get it.
WestCoast1
03-08-25, 06:35
I've never needed a police clearance for anything, but why would anyone knowingly use an agency to do their eTravel? It is only a few minutes and not painful to do. I don't get it.Agree, but apparently people do it. Its possible that scammers get your phone number or email, then send you a (bad) link reminding you to process your eTravel. You click on their link and end up with trouble.
Trevor2522
03-08-25, 10:55
Agree, but apparently people do it. Its possible that scammers get your phone number or email, then send you a (bad) link reminding you to process your eTravel. You click on their link and end up with trouble.They fool search engines into prioritising over genuine, government sites. People are lazy and dumb; they send millions to fake, Nigerian princes, LOL! And allow themselves to be injected with untested viral remedies, without any evidence of viruses even existing.
Foreign nationals who have stayed in the Philippines for six months or more may need to obtain an Emigration Clearance Certificate (ECC) before departing the country. However, the requirement for a police clearance specifically after six months of stay is not explicitly mentioned in the provided context. The ECC is required for certain categories of foreign nationals, including those who have stayed in the Philippines for six months or more and are holders of a Temporary Visitor Visa.
Foreigners staying in the Philippines for more than six months must obtain an Emigration Clearance Certificate (ECC) before leaving the country. This requirement applies to tourists who have stayed for six months or more and those with expired or downgraded visas. The ECC is necessary to ensure that the individual has complied with visa extensions and other immigration regulations. Tourists staying more than six months must submit the proper form along with three passport-sized photographs and the visa fees. The processing time for the ECC is typically 4-5 business days, with an expedite option available for an additional fee. It is important to note that the ECC and travel tax are separate requirements. If you are a permanent resident temporarily leaving the country, you must apply for a re-entry permit with the Bureau of Immigration (BI). However, this information is specifically for permanent residents and not tourists.
Tax Clearance Philippines: When leaving the Philippines after staying for more than six months, foreigners are required to obtain an Exit Clearance Certificate (ECC) from the Bureau of Immigration. This is necessary to ensure that all visa extensions and other formalities are in order. For foreigners, the ECC is required if they have stayed over six months on a tourist visa and must be acquired during the 72 hours before departure. The ECC can be obtained at the airport, but it is advisable to bring enough cash as the fee can exceed 1,200 pesos. It is important to note that the ECC and travel tax are separate payments. The ECC is a formal procedure to ensure compliance with immigration laws, while the travel tax is a departure tax for Filipino citizens. Exit Clearance Certificate (ECC): Required for foreigners who have stayed in the Philippines for more than six months and must be obtained before departure.
SRRV (Special Resident Retirees Visa) holders in the Philippines are generally exempt from obtaining re-entry permits. They can travel in and out of the country without the need for reapplication for entry visas and are exempt from Exit Clearance and Re-entry Permits (presumably including Police/Tax clearance -- but check with your SRRV handler). Additionally, SRRV holders are also exempt from the Annual Registration requirement and do not need to apply for an Alien Certificate of Registration (ACR) I-Card as required by the Bureau of Immigration. This exemption allows SRRV holders to enjoy special express lanes at the Immigration Area, which speeds up immigration procedures. The SRRV requires a deposit of either $10,000 or $20,000, depending on the applicant's age and health status ($1,500 for veterans). For healthy and active principal retirees who want to use their visa deposit towards renting an apartment or buying a condominium unit, the deposit is $20,000 if they are ages 50 and higher, and $50,000 for those aged 35 to 49. For ailing retirees who need medical or clinical services, the deposit is $10,000, along with a monthly pension of at least $1,500 and health coverage that is acceptable in the Philippines. The deposit is held in a designated bank account and can be used for specific purposes, such as purchasing real estate, but it cannot be withdrawn for personal use while the retiree remains in the Philippines.
WestCoast1
03-08-25, 11:48
Foreigners staying in the Philippines for more than six months must obtain an Emigration Clearance Certificate (ECC) before leaving the country. This requirement applies to tourists who have stayed for six months or more and those with expired or downgraded visas. The ECC is necessary to ensure that the individual has complied with visa extensions and other immigration regulations. Tourists staying more than six months must submit the proper form along with three passport-sized photographs and the visa fees. The processing time for the ECC is typically 4-5 business days, with an expedite option available for an additional fee. It is important to note that the ECC and travel tax are separate requirements. If you are a permanent resident temporarily leaving the country, you must apply for a re-entry permit with the Bureau of Immigration (BI). However, this information is specifically for permanent residents and not tourists.Good work Trevor. Can you provide a link?
Trevor2522
03-08-25, 13:47
Good work Trevor. Can you provide a link?I used search.brave.com (A.I. button) for the earlier text. It is a pretty-reliable, meta-search engine. There are lots of commercial, police-clearance sites but you need one with 'gov.ph' in the URL. Still not sure if it is an absolute requirement for leaving after 6 months' stay, although the US embassy site does not mention it.
https://www.foi.gov.ph/agencies/pnp/police-clearance-renewal-non-appearance-pnp-110582842700/
Emigration Clearance Certificate (ECC)
https://ph.usembassy.gov/exit-clearances/
https://e-services.immigration.gov.ph/Dashboard/Index?ReturnUrl=%2FEmigrationClearanceCertificateB
Must appear in person
https://newlandchase.com/philippines-personal-appearance-for-emigration-clearance-certificate-applications/
Old And Ugly
03-09-25, 03:54
I never stayed in PH without exiting for 6 months, my base is in PH, but I like to move around. Before the eGovPH app when I used to go to the Marquee Mall immigration office for extensions, they always charged me an extra 1,5 K (I think) for the police clearance, and it was official, not a scam. I don't know if it changed, it's not needed anymore, or is only for more than 2 months stay, or they were making extra contributions to the police fund, for something that's optional. (Or maybe I look suspicious).
I never stayed in PH without exiting for 6 months, my base is in PH, but I like to move around. Before the eGovPH app when I used to go to the Marquee Mall immigration office for extensions, they always charged me an extra 1,5 K (I think) for the police clearance, and it was official, not a scam. I don't know if it changed, it's not needed anymore, or is only for more than 2 months stay, or they were making extra contributions to the police fund, for something that's optional. (Or maybe I look suspicious).Has anyone overstayed beyond 59 days by accident? I'm wondering if it is much of a problem?
I've overstayed beyond the original 30 days before without renewal and the only ramification at the airport was some finger waving and having to immediately buy the 29 day extension even if I've only over stayed one day.
Given the extra applications and paperwork required for visas beyond 59 days, do Immigration cause much of a problem at the airport for an over stay?
Cheers. G.
P.S. Before anyone asks, no I'm not intending to purposely overstay. I'm just winding if it's as casual as overstating 30+ days.
Anyone here a P. I. Or know a good one in Metro Manila I can send money to and trust he'll do the requested work. I'm trying to find a girl. I know, I know it sounds stupid. But I might just give it a try.
Send me a PM. You don't have to reply here.
Cheers.
Dear Admin,
Is there any chance of starting a thread for "All the different excuses girls have given you for needing money".
I had a regular hit me up just now to pay for her 'brother's' funeral.
Some of hers have been classic. And just so comical and not so well thought out with fake photos and the like.
And don't the Filipinas just love that fucking howling / crying Emoji.
_ Phil.
WestCoast1
03-09-25, 13:20
And don't the Filipinas just love that fucking howling / crying Emoji.Huhu. Huhuhu. Huhuhuhu. Huhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhu!
Old And Ugly
03-09-25, 17:11
Has anyone overstayed beyond 59 days by accident? I'm wondering if it is much of a problem?
I've overstayed beyond the original 30 days before without renewal and the only ramification at the airport was some finger waving and having to immediately buy the 29 day extension even if I've only over stayed one day.
Given the extra applications and paperwork required for visas beyond 59 days, do Immigration cause much of a problem at the airport for an over stay?
Cheers. G.
P.S. Before anyone asks, no I'm not intending to purposely overstay. I'm just winding if it's as casual as overstating 30+ days.I never overstayed my visa, sometimes I paid for nothing because I exited a few months in advance. I wish they change the system that forfeits automatically whatever time you have left on your visa by exiting the country.
I know, I know it sounds stupid. But I might just give it a try. Cheers.No harm in trying mate, but from what I know, you're probably going to need a DOB and full legal name to begin with, otherwise it will cost you a fortune in groundwork _ Phil.
No harm in trying mate, but from what I know, you're probably going to need a DOB and full legal name to begin with, otherwise it will cost you a fortune in groundwork _ Phil.Filipinas, especially working girls, have an extensive online presence. Between Facebook, friends of friends and image reverse searches, it's probably easier for him to do it himself.
That's 90% of what a PI would do.
G.
Anyone here a P. I. Or know a good one in Metro Manila I can send money to and trust he'll do the requested work. I'm trying to find a girl. I know, I know it sounds stupid. But I might just give it a try..If she does not want you to find her, you wil not find her.
If she does not want you to find her, you wil not find her.True but so sad to hear that Lalake's rich old grandma died and left him a fortune. Did you hear he was looking for an old girlfriend to buy a house and settle down with? Wait, who could that be knocking on the door? Why it's Girlie and she misses Lalake and wants to meet him again. What a surprise.
Wasn't it the DEA who perfected the crack dealers winning Lotto scam? How stupid can someone be?
Enjoy. G.
Trevor2522
03-12-25, 09:39
Monthly Pension: A minimum monthly pension of US $1,500.00 is required. For former Filipinos, the requirement is US $1,000.00.
Health Insurance: A health insurance policy accepted in the Philippines.
SRR Visa Deposit: A deposit of US $10,000. 00 is required. For former Filipinos and certain categories of applicants, the deposit is US $1,500.00.
NBI Clearance: If the applicant has stayed in the Philippines for more than 30 days from the date of last entry prior to the SRRV application, an NBI Clearance is required. This clearance is valid for one year from the date it was secured.
Passport: The applicant must have an original passport with a valid arrival / entry visa in the Philippines and must be physically present in the Philippines during the processing of the SRRV application.
Additional Dependents: For each additional dependent beyond two, an additional visa deposit of US $15,000. 00 must be remitted under the name of the principal applicant, except for former Filipinos under the SRRV Courtesy.
The SRRV visa offers several benefits, including indefinite stay with multiple-entry / exit privileges, exemption from certain fees and taxes, and other advantages. For the most up-to-date and detailed information, it is recommended to contact SRRV Visa Consultancy directly.
https://pra.gov.ph/srrv/
Complete and properly filled out applications can be processed as fast as 15 to 20 working days, if you apply at one of the main PRA branches. If you apply through a satellite office, processing time can extend to 25 to 30 business days.
NBI clearance is a bummer but sounds like a one-off in this case. I assume any tax-clearance requirement is waived, as SRRV holders are not permitted to work.
All that said, many just continue staying, long-term, on tourist visa-waiver extensions, for up to 3 years! Nowadays, one can be called in for a personal interview but, if financially-solvent and well-dressed, should not be an issue. Who wants to stay in La-La-Land for a continuous 3 years anyway?
All that said, many just continue staying, long-term, on tourist visa-waiver extensions, for up to 3 years! Nowadays, one can be called in for a personal interview but, if financially-solvent and well-dressed, should not be an issue. Who wants to stay in La-La-Land for a continuous 3 years anyway?The information I elided was good and to the point, thouygh the paperwork seems tedious.
You ask who wants to stay in muff land for a continuius 3 years. Many do. I do but I doubt I could hack it at this stage. I look at the losers' videos online and those who settle in and plod along, running small busienss and humouring their lady friends. Of ocurse, folk end up everywhere but the Phils is a palce you want to have your ducks in order or you'd end up nuts or worse. I don't think I could do three years. In a prison, yes but I the funny farm that is the Phils, no.
WestCoast1
03-12-25, 14:14
Nudder good report there Trevor.
NBI clearance is a bummer but sounds like a one-off in this case.Ya its rare to need one. I got a clearance at the NBI Clearance Center on United Nations Ave (corner Taft Ave). Simple process of registering online FIRST, then showing up around my appointment time. Once inside, fill out some forms, show PP, get finger-printed. They told me to come back in an hour and pick up the actual clearance. It cost a few hundred pesos and took about 2 hours total once there (including waiting around for the printout). They process hundreds of applicants per hour there, its a cattle-call.
All that said, many just continue staying, long-term, on tourist visa-waiver extensions, for up to 3 years! The 13-A, SRRV, and the tourist-ACR are really a "Six of one, half a dozen of the other" situation. Each has advantages and disadvantages.
Nowadays, one can be called in for a personal interview but, if financially-solvent and well-dressed, should not be an issue.Two issues that not every expat can muster. Was walking thru a market yesterday and there on the sidewalk a late-60's white man in dirty clothes was selling hard candies for 2 pesos each. I was told that SRRV and 13-A are exempt from the personal interview.
Who wants to stay in La-La-Land for a continuous 3 years anyway?Ya, that's a good question.
Old And Ugly
03-12-25, 16:13
'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' Who wants to stay in La-La-Land for a continuous 3 years anyway?I been staying for more than 3 years on tourist visa extensions, but I do lots of SEA or EU trips every few months, whenever tickets are on sale. My hobbies are beautiful pussy, travel and photography. Lately I gave up on the photographic quest. My tourist card expired also, but I keep using it for hotels and internal flights, nobody ever bothers to look on the back for the expiration date, cannot get another one yet because I never stayed continuously long enough, without exiting.
Trevor2522
03-13-25, 11:42
My tourist card expired also, but I keep using it for hotels and internal flights, nobody ever bothers to look on the back for the expiration date, cannot get another one yet because I never stayed continuously long enough, without exiting.You are referring to the ACR (Alien certificate of registration) card. Seniors can avail themselves of up to 35% discount in participating food outlets, e.g. Zark's Burgers. What benefits do you enjoy presenting it for hotels and domestic flights? All visitors on the tourist visa-waiver scheme must apply for an ACR card at day 60 of their stay.
The SRRV visa is complex and 'costs' between $1,500 and $20,000 in (refundable-on-final-departure) bank deposits, which can only be withdrawn for long-term accommodation leases, or condominium purchases. The bonuses are: no limit to stay in PI, free coming and going, no ACR-card & no necessity for an onward travel ticket (have proof to show check-in).
The Special Resident Retiree's Visa (SRRV) program in the Philippines has undergone several changes regarding age eligibility. Initially, applicants aged 35 and above could apply for the SRRV Classic program with higher deposit requirements, ranging from USD 20,000 to USD 50,000 depending on the applicant's situation. However, the current official stance from the Philippine Retirement Authority (PRA) often sets the minimum age at 50 for the SRRV Classic unless the prospective retiree falls under an exception such as the SRRV Courtesy for former Filipino citizens who can be as young as 35. The SRRV Smile program is designed for active and healthy applicants aged 35 years and older, requiring a visa deposit of USD $20,000 in a PRA-accredited bank. For the SRRV Classic program, applicants aged 35 to 49 years old need to deposit USD $50,000, while those aged 50 and above need to deposit USD $10,000 to $20,000.
The SRRV Smile program is designed for active and healthy applicants aged 35 years and older, requiring a visa deposit of USD $20,000 in a PRA-accredited bank. For the SRRV Classic program, applicants aged 35 to 49 years old need to deposit USD $50,000, while those aged 50 and above need to deposit USD $10,000 to $20,000. The SRRV program has attracted a significant number of Chinese retirees. As of the latest updates, 38% of SRRV holders are Chinese, indicating a substantial interest from this demographic.
In summary, while the SRRV program initially allowed younger applicants aged 35 and above, the current focus is more on retirees aged 50 and above, with exceptions for specific categories like the SRRV Smile and Courtesy programs. As of the latest updates, 38% of SRRV holders are Chinese, indicating a substantial interest from this demographic. In summary, while the SRRV program initially allowed younger applicants aged 35 and above, the younger-Chinese (POGO-gambling) deluge has meant the focus is more on retirees aged 50 and above, with exceptions for specific categories like the SRRV Smile and Courtesy programs.
The bonuses are: no limit to stay in PI, free coming and going, no ACR-card & no necessity for an onward travel ticket (have proof to show check-in).
And, unlike the Spouse Visa, doesn't require the ongoing grace of your sponsor wife. A SRRV is unaffected by a breakdown of the relationship or divorce.
Old And Ugly
03-14-25, 04:03
............ What benefits do you enjoy presenting it for hotels and domestic flights?..........No benefits, I don't care about that part, I just use it as an ID, instead of the passport, I find it more convenient, size wise, and it seems that the staff doesn't try to scam you by seeing that you're not a newbie.
Charm City Dave
03-14-25, 15:35
Hi, Returning the Manila for the first time since COVID. I'm sure lots has changed. What are the best apps for meeting women interested in a short term relationship in exchange for my generosity? My sweet spot are the non-pros, semi-pros who are like 7's. I'm going to guess they all have a high noise to signal ratio. Any ideas which one or two are better?
Last time I was there I did ok with just Tinder, I think I tried pinalove as well. I'm sure a lot has changed. BTW I'll be in the Manila area. I might not leave Makati LOL. But I don't want bar girls.
Old And Ugly
03-14-25, 16:45
Hi, Returning the Manila for the first time since COVID. I'm sure lots has changed. What are the best apps for meeting women interested in a short term relationship in exchange for my generosity? My sweet spot are the non-pros, semi-pros who are like 7's. I'm going to guess they all have a high noise to signal ratio. Any ideas which one or two are better?
Last time I was there I did ok with just Tinder, I think I tried pinalove as well. I'm sure a lot has changed. BTW I'll be in the Manila area. I might not leave Makati LOL. But I don't want bar girls.Everybody is looking for the same thing, nothing new. Try FB, search "walker" and the area you're interested into.
I reckon there wil be a significant uptick in petty crime with Duterte in the Hague,. Davao? I guess you can keep it now.
Hi Guys,
Well it's been a very accommodating couple of weeks here once again. I know I've added to various other threads, but the summation is probably best left here.
Mixing business and pleasure in the The Phils was made a little more difficult this time around, as there was the issue of emergency dental work being done early on. Which included getting a tooth ripped out in Subic for a fraction of the price you'd get at home. I discovered a BBBJ can ease any pain.
Boracay was another story, and heading there solo in the end, I had repeat visits from a girl who just wanted some money who wanted to get home.
I gave Pina Love a go and it turned out to be great with contacts. There's a lot of fucking about with it, weeding out the old desperate women looking for cash.
Last night in Makati, I met up with one of the younger girls I met from Blow Row in Angeles last year. We had dinner and then she got on the Red Horse which got a bit messy. Big mistake you may think? Anyway I got her on the back of a "Joy Ride" motorcycle and she survived the trip back to Cavite.
After she left the City Garden hotel in Makati, I went out for a smoke (Generally I don't smoke, but when there's Tanduay involved and 169 piso packets of ciggies at 2 am, anything can happen)\.
So after dismissing the bakla out the front of the hotel, Jo-an asked if I'd like a BBJ and she had ID for the hotel reception.
Well, for 2000 p we had a great time, and there was a lot more than a BBBJ hit and run. She stayed the night and then I tipped her another 1000 p after the wake-up sex the next morning.
So my conclusion is, The Phils always delivers, even if you don't take the typical bar girl route. There's always going to be people saying it isn't like it used to be, but honestly, what places is?
If you don't like the place, or certain cities, then don't do it and complain about it.
Always delivers for me _ Phil.
WestCoast1
03-17-25, 05:50
Take this entire line of questioning either to the porcelain throne or to Stupid Shit in the Philippines.
Don't editorialize. Don't offer your opinions on politics and history. Leave reviews and information about girls and pussy.
There are a lot of mongers fucking those same prostitutes in the USA too. Are you saying there's no cultural bias in the States against them either? You can't talk about those selling ass without talking about those who are buying it. Mongers or "Johns" are looked down upon, especially those like us who travel abroad. We're made out to be creepy monsters or something. And you're not even making any sense! If it's only a small minority that's against it, then why can't the laws making prostitution illegal be overturned if the vast majority are for it then? Isn't that how a democracy works? The truth is that nobody is really trying hard to make prostitution legal in the United States because they don't want to be seen as pushing something that's viewed as morally unacceptable in the culture. So what gives then if so much money is changing hands in the USA between tutes and mongers? Well like a lot of things, Americans are just plain hypocrites!
Good post Cane, but KY is correct. It belongs in a different venue than the AC thread, so I'm moving it here to Gen Info.
Thanks, WC (non-management).
I am looking at air fares and am thinking of returning for 59 days to get medical treatment and the odd root and 3 some. As I am getting on in years (70+) my sexual needs are modest and my medical needs are on the up.
My question is this: what is the ideal length of time to stay? Last time, I was worried my house would still be there after 59 days, with winter gales and so on. But it was and I missed a lot of the bitter cold, which is as bad as frying pan Philippines.
As I go easy on the booze and my sexual needs are modest, 59 days seems to push it. I can bring / buy a laptop and do online work during the hot days but that defeats the purpose of travelling. I can stay lionger than 59 days but hard to see the point.
Last time, why style was kinda cramped by having a lady friend but she has reurned to the province. Life is hard on them wioth low wages and trying to get by and send some pesos home. O like them as their needs are modest, have a baby, family etc. Jollibee of course.
I am looking at air fares and am thinking of returning for 59 days to get medical treatment and the odd root and 3 some. As I am getting on in years (70+) my sexual needs are modest and my medical needs are on the up.
My question is this: what is the ideal length of time to stay? Last time, I was worried my house would still be there after 59 days, with winter gales and so on. But it was and I missed a lot of the bitter cold, which is as bad as frying pan Philippines.
As I go easy on the booze and my sexual needs are modest, 59 days seems to push it. I can bring / buy a laptop and do online work during the hot days but that defeats the purpose of travelling. I can stay lionger than 59 days but hard to see the point.
Last time, why style was kinda cramped by having a lady friend but she has reurned to the province. Life is hard on them wioth low wages and trying to get by and send some pesos home. O like them as their needs are modest, have a baby, family etc. Jollibee of course.If I may say so, you are beginning to sound like a crusty old man. Look and sound a little more positive and aim for more positive new adventure.
Personally about 30 days is enough for me. A week in AC then Boracay for 5 days and back to AC for a week. Then 5 days in Alona and back to AC. Sometimes I take a girl with me or not.
Next time I try a break to Vietnam and back to AC.
I am looking at air fares and am thinking of returning for 59 days to get medical treatment and the odd root and 3 some. As I am getting on in years (70+) my sexual needs are modest and my medical needs are on the up.
My question is this: what is the ideal length of time to stay?Do you want to come and travel or stay in one place? When you say you have medical needs, do you mean that you are coming for specific treatment and therefore need to stay close to a specific hospital or are you just less mobile than when you were younger?
If you're physically able, the Philippines is an easy and cheap place to travel around. You could do the island and beaches, the big cities, war history. What ever interested you. If your not looking to bang three times a day, then you could just connect with women as you go, a few days at a time.
If you're moving around, then you could stay longer. If staying in one place, then you could become bored and might want a shorter holiday.
I find the 30+29 days the magic number but I do travel around a lot and am several decades younger than you so mobility isn't a problem for me. I do allow a couple of days for flight changes, cancellations etc so typically keep it to 57 days. This is also short enough that I can pre-book casual lawn mowers, pool cleaners etc at home so I don't come back to too much of a shambles. Remember your day of arrival counts as day 1 not day 0.
Enjoy G.
PS. Each to their own but I wouldn't worry about travelling with someone. I find it more than doubles my costs, limits my spontaneity and basically complicates everything. Much easier to just find someone to drop around within an hour or a day of arrival as needed. I should add that I'm very comfortable with my own company so that may be different for someone who needs to be around others 24/7.
I reckon there wil be a significant uptick in petty crime with Duterte in the Hague,. Davao? I guess you can keep it now.No change in Davao. Dutere family still sound Davao.
Interesting will be the political divide between Marcos and Dutere. It will be some nasty politics ahead.
Transporter
03-17-25, 22:25
Prices are up everywhere. I had assumed that the cost for transportation would be higher this trip. A couple of years ago when they changed the terminals from 1 to 3 for international arrivals, everything changed. My options that I saw it were to use the official airport taxi, the fake airport taxi, take a long walk dragging my luggage to get a regular taxi, or use grab. Taking the walk and possibly getting into a sketchy cab did not seem the best idea since I usually arrive with a good amount of cash. Finding the exact pick up point for a grab and then waiting there being constantly pestered by touts wasn't high on my list either. I don't mind paying a higher rate for the official airport cabs as they have to pay a fee to work that location, as long as the price isn't ridiculous. In my mind even if I paid double it was worth the peace of mind, and most importantly my time and sanity. I mean you just paid a huge sum to fly for a day or so, a bit tired, a bit hungry, a bit edgy. If I paid an extra 5 bucks to save myself the anxiety, then to me it is worth it. The official airport taxi stand (if you can find it) is probably the safest bet but it is not always easy to find, and the que (not in customers but time) is super super long. If you are familiar with the PI, then you know how long it takes to be serviced here. The last time I used the official airport taxi, I was 4th in line but took 25 minutes to get me going. You stand in line and watch 1 customer at a time be loaded in and all the talking back and forth, god forbid you are behind a family with a shit load of luggage. Therefore it was the fake airport taxi. These fake airport taxi's look exactly like the official yellow airport taxi's but I don't think they are or maybe they are but don't que for customers at the kiosk, or maybe they are in que, but the wait is so long that they just grab customers at will. Don't really know for sure. In any case all the "fake airport taxi's" have a standard rate, it is 600 pesos. I am not sure if the standard rate is standard for everywhere, but they all say the same thing, that it is a fixed rate of 600 pesos. I was going to malate and the fee was 600 pesos, I did ask if I was going to makati what the fee would be and they replied that it is a fixed rate of 600. I would assume that if I was going to rizal, antipolo or bulacan the rate wouldn't be the same but I did not inquire. In any case 600 pesos if it is in your budget and time is more valuable than a couple of bucks then it is a good option.
.At my stage, people slow down to a crawl. I am not at that stage and I saw people in much worse shape in Walking St. It is a long way to go unless I am getting value for money and I don't need too much stress or drama. Medical is just getting overhauls; I find Angeles good for that, teeth cleaning etc. I spent far north of $3000 on it last time, around Christmas. BUt I wil not be get8 ng healthier in the future and the docuitr said that. From here on it is downhill.
Angeles suits me in that when the urge gets me, women are there on tap though, like everyone else, the mechanical nature of it is a bore. , and not a very long one.
I would have no problem picking up an ordinary woan who sees me as a 50%+ meal ticket and I got some offers last time. But Anglees is not as ronantic as, say the Greek islands, Venice or Naples.
A lot of travel does not suit me either, It suits me to sit in Angeles and bone when needed. But 59 days equals a lot of siittng around. And, at my age, I don't have a lot of 59 days left and that is an issue as impiortant sutuff happens back home.
Sr Lancelot made the valid point that he likes talking to the young Pinay hookers, listening to their dreams for the future etc and much prefers it to listening to middle age grumpies back home. Fair enough but younger ladies back home are on differnet wave lengths in all imaginiable ways.
I have pulled women all over Asia but their mates say, why are you with grand the. Ageism is as big a curse as is getting old.
I will probably go for the 59 days.
Prices are up everywhere. I had assumed that the cost for transportation would be higher this trip. A couple of years ago when they changed the terminals from 1 to 3 for international arrivals, everything changed. My options that I saw it were to use the official airport taxi, the fake airport taxi, take a long walk dragging my luggage to get a regular taxi, or use grab. Taking the walk and possibly getting into a sketchy cab did not seem the best idea since I usually arrive with a good amount of cash. Finding the exact pick up point for a grab and then waiting there being constantly pestered by touts wasn't high on my list either. I don't mind paying a higher rate for the official airport cabs as they have to pay a fee to work that location, as long as the price isn't ridiculous. In my mind even if I paid double it was worth the peace of mind, and most importantly my time and sanity. I mean you just paid a huge sum to fly for a day or so, a bit tired, a bit hungry, a bit edgy. If I paid an extra 5 bucks to save myself the anxiety, then to me it is worth it. The official airport taxi stand (if you can find it) is probably the safest bet but it is not always easy to find, and the que (not in customers but time) is super super long. If you are familiar with the PI, then you know how long it takes to be serviced here. The last time I used the official airport taxi, I was 4th in line but took 25 minutes to get me going. You stand in line and watch 1 customer at a time be loaded in and all the talking back and forth, god forbid you are behind a family with a shit load of luggage. Therefore it was the fake airport taxi. These fake airport taxi's look exactly like the official yellow airport taxi's but I don't think they are or maybe they are but don't que for customers at the kiosk, or maybe they are in que, but the wait is so long that they just grab customers at will. Don't really know for sure. In any case all the "fake airport taxi's" have a standard rate, it is 600 pesos. I am not sure if the standard rate is standard for everywhere, but they all say the same thing, that it is a fixed rate of 600 pesos. I was going to malate and the fee was 600 pesos, I did ask if I was going to makati what the fee would be and they replied that it is a fixed rate of 600. I would assume that if I was going to rizal, antipolo or bulacan the rate wouldn't be the same but I did not inquire. In any case 600 pesos if it is in your budget and time is more valuable than a couple of bucks then it is a good option.All that has changed at Terminal 3. Grab and Super Taxi have their own kiosks and exclusive pick up spots. Just line up and order your ride.
Airport White and Yellow taxis do not have long lines now with Grab and Super taxis there now. Just make sure they use their meter.
I am not sure if the standard rate is standard for everywhere, but they all say the same thing, that it is a fixed rate of 600 pesos. I was going to malate and the fee was 600 pesos, I did ask if I was going to makati what the fee would be and they replied that it is a fixed rate of 600. I would assume that if I was going to rizal, antipolo or bulacan the rate wouldn't be the same but I did not inquire. In any case 600 pesos if it is in your budget and time is more valuable than a couple of bucks then it is a good option.I booked a Grab having arrived in T3 and booked as soon as I saw my luggage on the carousel. Got outside to find Grab pickup changed again and had to make my way to a carpark. Fare was 340 into Malate at 6 pm. I think the longest part of the trip was getting out of the carpark. He took the expressway without asking which added 140 p to the fare. Was at my condo at 6.20 pm in peak HR traffic. Pretty good result I thought.
If I may say so, you are beginning to sound like a crusty old man. Look and sound a little more positive and aim for more positive new adventure.
Personally about 30 days is enough for me. A week in AC then Boracay for 5 days and back to AC for a week. Then 5 days in Alona and back to AC. Sometimes I take a girl with me or not.
Next time I try a break to Vietnam and back to AC.I mention Frank Sinatra as he modulated his singing with age. It is a fact as you get older, you wear down. Many old friends pushing up daisies now and exertions show your age. I have done several very strenuous things over the last few years whwere I outshone guys half my age but body parts give out and there is no escape from the ravages of time. I like Angeles as I cang et quick medical overhauls. For me, that is a big plus and, increasingly, a necesary plus.
New adventure is a risk / reward trade off. I was supposed to go on a major through hike next week but my leg has been saying no for 30+ days already. I have footballing friends who now have to drag their legs after them, the knees being kaput.
Right now, I am getting odd jobs done and making a list of more to do. Then, my diary is clear and it looks like 59 days. I don't fancy Borocay but a few bonking raids outside of Angeles might keep the spirits up.
The Angeles expat lot keep thesmselves busy with pub quizzes, golf and the like, but my fear there is the guys in Walking St sitting there watching the world roll by. Here, many retirees hit the bars, drink between 3 and 7 pm, and are dead by 70.
I suppose the down side of Angeles is the bad infrastructure, the heat and the lack of something besides bonking to do. Formerley, I scuba dived, worked out in gyms etc.
I booked a Grab having arrived in T3 and booked as soon as I saw my luggage on the carousel. Got outside to find Grab pickup changed again and had to make my way to a carpark. Fare was 340 into Malate at 6 pm. I think the longest part of the trip was getting out of the carpark. He took the expressway without asking which added 140 p to the fare. Was at my condo at 6.20 pm in peak HR traffic. Pretty good result I thought.Expressway is worth it. Always take the expressway if you can. You probably saved 30 minutes.
Locamotive
03-19-25, 16:03
The information I elided was good and to the point, thouygh the paperwork seems tedious.
You ask who wants to stay in muff land for a continuius 3 years. Many do. I do but I doubt I could hack it at this stage. I look at the losers' videos online and those who settle in and plod along, running small busienss and humouring their lady friends. Of ocurse, folk end up everywhere but the Phils is a palce you want to have your ducks in order or you'd end up nuts or worse. I don't think I could do three years. In a prison, yes but I the funny farm that is the Phils, no.True but just do a rotation. Not retired yet but soon and a few buddies do this. We are all from US where we have 4 seasons. When it gets cold around November leave, April maybe May return home. This gives you a nice rotation as allot of things here in summer I enjoy. Golf, working around the house various projects and yard work. After 4 or 5 months at home you will be ready to come back, more than ready. It seems to work best for them, think Ill do the same comments from others who may be doing this would be appreciated.
I have my airline tickets paid for for autumn. I guess I wil have to endure Pinays sucking on my dick. Oh well. What swung it was the alrtnratives or lack thereof. I like thea la carte medical services. Other pklaces want to stiff you from a distance.
The information I elided was good and to the point, thouygh the paperwork seems tedious.
You ask who wants to stay in muff land for a continuius 3 years. Many do. I do but I doubt I could hack it at this stage. I look at the losers' videos online and those who settle in and plod along, running small busienss and humouring their lady friends. Of ocurse, folk end up everywhere but the Phils is a palce you want to have your ducks in order or you'd end up nuts or worse. I don't think I could do three years. In a prison, yes but I the funny farm that is the Phils, no.
True but just do a rotation. Not retired yet but soon and a few buddies do this. We are all from US where we have 4 seasons. When it gets cold around November leave, April maybe May return home. This gives you a nice rotation as allot of things here in summer I enjoy. Golf, working around the house various projects and yard work. After 4 or 5 months at home you will be ready to come back, more than ready. It seems to work best for them, think Ill do the same comments from others who may be doing this would be appreciated.There are a few different options and permutations.
The obvious one is the pack up, sell everything stateside, cut all ties and then move permanently. The benefits are: lower cost of living; most guys find a partner and start getting laid again and; the all over quality of life is much better than just waiting to die back home. The downsides surprise many. What appears quaint as a visitor can be infuriating after a few years: the noise; the unreliable power, water and services generally; the constant manana attitude; medical services and response times can be a life and death decisions in one's 80's; endless pussy is great when you first arrive but actually becomes monotonous after a while. Jurango's 'losers' also run the considerable risk of losing a house and fortune to what was the love of their life. For a combination of these reasons many, many guys tap out after about five years and head home. Often, this is when they find that selling their major dollar assets and converting them to pesos wasn't such a great idea and that the cost of repatriation is much higher than expected or allowed for. Could you imagine selling your home 5 years ago, spending most of the proceeds, then trying to re-enter the market at today's prices? Many times guys go home completely broke. It's something you never read of nor see in glossy YouTube videos.
Coming on a roster is easy to organise. Philippines visas, while not as friendly as they were are still relatively low hassle, especially for repeated stays of a couple of months several times a years. There is the added cost of multiple flights and short term accommodation but these can be weighed against not buying her a house, supporting families, having kids at 70 etc. As we all get older, timing and destinations can be aligned with medical needs. There are checkups etc that are much better done overseas, some back at home. Some enjoy travel and moving around but some don't. It's an individual preference. Personally, I can travel intermittently for up to 6 months a year but more than that becomes tiresome and a job in itself.
I think the biggest thing is to realise that living is Asia is totally different to visiting.
Enjoy. G.
Old And Ugly
03-20-25, 05:19
There are a few different options and permutations.
The obvious one is the pack up, sell everything stateside, cut all ties and then move permanently. The benefits are: lower cost of living; most guys find a partner and start getting laid again and; the all over quality of life is much better than just waiting to die back home. The downsides surprise many. What appears quaint as a visitor can be infuriating after a few years: the noise; the unreliable power, water and services generally; the constant manana attitude; medical services and response times can be a life and death decisions in one's 80's; endless pussy is great when you first arrive but actually becomes monotonous after a while. Jurango's 'losers' also run the considerable risk of losing a house and fortune to what was the love of their life. For a combination of these reasons many, many guys tap out after about five years and head home. Often, this is when they find that selling their major dollar assets and converting them to pesos wasn't such a great idea and that the cost of repatriation is much higher than expected or allowed for. Could you imagine selling your home 5 years ago, spending most of the proceeds, then trying to re-enter the market at today's prices? Many times guys go home completely broke. It's something you never read of nor see in glossy YouTube videos.
Coming on a roster is easy to organise. Philippines visas, while not as friendly as they were are still relatively low hassle, especially for repeated stays of a couple of months several times a years. There is the added cost of multiple flights and short term accommodation but these can be weighed against not buying her a house, supporting families, having kids at 70 etc. As we all get older, timing and destinations can be aligned with medical needs. There are checkups etc that are much better done overseas, some back at home. Some enjoy travel and moving around but some don't. It's an individual preference. Personally, I can travel intermittently for up to 6 months a year but more than that becomes tiresome and a job in itself.
I think the biggest thing is to realise that living is Asia is totally different to visiting.
Enjoy. G.I did that, and so far in my 4th year I don't regret it a bit, actually I'm "scarred" of the reverse, when I have to go back "home", there is nothing for me there, is expensive, some things are more complicated than PH, the only joy I have is seeing my friends.
The alternative, was to continue to work until death, being invisible, expired. Even if I die tomorrow because of some medical emergency malpractice 3rd world bullshit, I won't regret it a bit, because here you feel alive, and that's more important than leaving in safety in USA, but dying in comfort at a slow precalculated rate.
WestCoast1
03-20-25, 12:56
Accurate and insightful report.
endless pussy is great when you first arrive but actually becomes monotonous after a while. Speak for yourself!
Kidding aside, this does happen to me. Couple of times a year I either cut way back on my normal schedule, or eliminate it completely for a few weeks. One of the positives of this place is that it puts you in the driver's seat (usually) on when / where. Those in P-prison rarely have such an option. One can stop, then pick right back up at anytime here.
I think the biggest thing is to realise that living is Asia is totally different to visiting.Have noticed that Covid was a breaking point for ISG threads here in Phils (and possibly elsewhere). Prior to covid, most of our posts were regarding short-term tourists coming to Phils. Tourists asked questions, old guard answered tourist questions or offered insights (Burgos, AC, LAC, Cebu mostly), and solid field reports showed up more often.
During Covid, some A-hole here posted a ton of BS regarding Grab, ECQ, and MECQ, Alert levels, vaccines, rapid tests, face masks, and face shields. He seemed to get laid a lot. F*cker.
Post Covid, fewer tourists returned to Phils than pre-covid, and more expats living here seem to have moved into the ISG neighborhood. Fewer solid FR's. Now we discuss where to get our teeth cleaned.
Old And Ugly
03-20-25, 17:44
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Post Covid, fewer tourists returned to Phils than pre-covid, and more expats living here seem to have moved into the ISG neighborhood. Fewer solid FR's. .........The Philippines Government didn't made the early visits after the scamdemic to easy, quarantine, certificates and tests, and so much bullshit and misinformation, that you didn't really knew where and what to look for. Most of the Latin America was a step ahead of the rest of the world, Mexico being the leader. When the covid test was needed to return to the USA, in the Cancun airport they were just touching your nostrils with an ordinary q-tip, then going behind a curtain, trowing the q-tip in the trash, and printing you a negative test result for about $20. Good business.
I did that, and so far in my 4th year I don't regret it a bit, actually I'm "scarred" of the reverse, when I have to go back "home", there is nothing for me there, is expensive, some things are more complicated than PH, the only joy I have is seeing my friends.
The alternative, was to continue to work until death, being invisible, expired. Even if I die tomorrow because of some medical emergency malpractice 3rd world bullshit, I won't regret it a bit, because here you feel alive, and that's more important than leaving in safety in USA, but dying in comfort at a slow precalculated rate.After living away, the sticker shock is very real. For me it's not the big ticket items, it's the things that were ridiculously cheap but are no longer available: $2 taxi fares; $5 meals; weekends away for $100 etc.
Again, this is very true. Most prefer to die on their feet vs live on their knees.
Enjoy. G.
Old and Ugly makes some interesting points, as does Goferring. I would like to know how Old and Ugly puts in his days when he is not in the saddle; even cowboys need their downtime Fact is, for most, the Philippines is a struggle for survival and one must fit into that.
Gofering is like Sir Lancelot as he crosses his ts and dots his is. Keeping the home front in order is important; rampant crime is a factor, one amongst many.
I find Angeles good for teeth cleaning, medical and more,. In my case, doctors have told me to have them cleaned more often. Being there for two months gives me that luxury and to get my hair cut three times, in a manner fit for a human, not a sheep.
Food is a major issue as every single time, I have to eat Western food so as not to get sick. At home, I make all my own food and love it.
These are not trivial matters; they are practical matters.
Old and Ugly says he prefers to die on his feet, or, in his case, riding high in the saddle, with some buxom wench underneath him. We all have things we want to do and have to do. Bonking random hookers is just one of them and, for me, it lost its novely many moons ago, Now, it is just perfucntory, no different from having my teeth cleaned and, often, a lot less fun.
All of these thigns go to make a happy monger. ;.
Accurate and insightful report.
Speak for yourself!
Kidding aside, this does happen to me. Couple of times a year I either cut way back on my normal schedule, or eliminate it completely for a few weeks. One of the positives of this place is that it puts you in the driver's seat (usually) on when / where. Those in P-prison rarely have such an option. One can stop, then pick right back up at anytime here.My cycle was to alternate about six months in a relationship, six months hookers then rinse and repeat. The relationships were good but with so many temptations I couldn't hold them down forever and the slightest thing would end everything. I broke up with a beautiful great girl because she always wore weird nail polish. You don't see that at home. To be fair, a few broke up with me too. Some after it became evident that we weren't going to get married, others because I'm a Cheap Charlie and a better offer came along. Regardless, lots of great memories.
G.
Old and Ugly makes some interesting points, as does Goferring. I would like to know how Old and Ugly puts in his days when he is not in the saddle; even cowboys need their downtime Fact is, for most, the Philippines is a struggle for survival and one must fit into that.Without speaking for Sir Ugly, it's like any retirement: you have to have interests and friends outside of work or in our case, bars and girls. There is nothing worse than walking into a social event only to find a bunch of old mechanics still talking about rebuilding engines or old foreigners holding up a bar and moaning into their beers. Get out and do shit. There is a lot to do in the Philippines. Beaches, golf, sports, natural beauty, social meet ups. If all else fails, it's $20 to go to another island for a weekend or $80 to go to another country.
Enjoy. G.
We all have things we want to do and have to do. Bonking random hookers is just one of them and, for me, it lost its novely many moons ago, Now, it is just perfucntory, no different from having my teeth cleaned and, often, a lot less fun.What's the contact details for your dentist? 😜.
Without speaking for Sir Ugly, it's like any retirement: you have to have interests and friends outside of work or in our case, bars and girls..Enjoy. G.What do those long timers do? I have sen retired Ossie militry chrge the bars for happy hour drinking, many of them with pathetic, little side jobs selling caskes etc. There are Europeans with small businesses thereto keep their wives happy and themselves busy. Golf and table quizzes are swapping a scoial life here for a lesser one there. Expats / retirees have to keep themselves busy in SE Asia, but with what? Of coruse, everyone is different but maybe someoen wil come up woth an idea that sparks me.
I could go to the provinces nad sponsor a sari sari store but, in more sober moments, fuck that.
I am currently busy with a range of projects. Would be nice if beaches and broads could entice me like Sirens of old. One man's poison etc.
What do those long timers do? I have sen retired Ossie militry chrge the bars for happy hour drinking, many of them with pathetic, little side jobs selling caskes etc. There are Europeans with small businesses thereto keep their wives happy and themselves busy. Golf and table quizzes are swapping a scoial life here for a lesser one there. Expats / retirees have to keep themselves busy in SE Asia, but with what? Of coruse, everyone is different but maybe someoen wil come up woth an idea that sparks me.
I could go to the provinces nad sponsor a sari sari store but, in more sober moments, fuck that.
I am currently busy with a range of projects. Would be nice if beaches and broads could entice me like Sirens of old. One man's poison etc.Unless you have extensive experience already, don't even think of starting a business. A retired bricklayer rarely takes the restaurant business by storm. Anyway, I retired to relax not manage staff, chase new business and wonder if today is the day that friends and family magically come in to pay their debts.
What to do? It's the same as back home. Find people, places and activities that you enjoy. No one is going to hand you a good time on a plate. Personally, I travel a lot, dive when I can and, occasionally, revel in doing absolutely nothing. Everyone is different but, yes, it does take some effort and perseverance especially after 40 years of others dictating what we do all day.
Enjoy. G.
Old And Ugly
03-21-25, 06:01
Old and Ugly makes some interesting points, as does Goferring. I would like to know how Old and Ugly puts in his days when he is not in the saddle; even cowboys need their downtime Fact is, for most, the Philippines is a struggle for survival and one must fit into that...........................................My passions in life has always been pussy, and travel, that's what makes me happy, and I'm just continuing on doing just that. By combining the two of them it becomes interesting and not boring at all. Also I like to read about interesting stuff, but lately with all the advances in the information technology, it seems that the whole world has become dumber instead to smart up. The news are all about politics and "celebrities", no mentions about science, nature, new discoveries, technology, etc. Like it doesn't exist anymore. I have good old friends, I'm talking about guys my age, that we grew up together, played together, fucked for the first time together, partied together, and more, we still very close and all alive, but lately with all the politics and fake news (and mostly because of the wifes), we kind of grew apart ideologically, therefore we avoid discussing politics whenever we see each other, we still do reunions few times a year, and everybody comes together some place in the world, even if some of us are separated by thousands of miles.
Despite all that boredom sets in sometimes, and I'm thinking of doing some sort of business, but as soon as I start putting things together (mentally) I realize that I don't really need all the hassle associated with that, and give up.
I like good food, but if not avail, I'm ease to please, when I stay longer in one place, and I rent an apartment, I do cook, especially in the PH were the food is horrible, and despite being an island, agrarian nation, where stuff grows if you spit a seed from your mouth on the ground when eating a tomato, bell pepper, or watermelon, you can't find veggies or fish in 99% of the places. I never understood this. I'm always in search for western restaurants, and good bread.
........................................................Old and Ugly says he prefers to die on his feet, or, in his case, riding high in the saddle, with some buxom wench underneath him. We all have things we want to do and have to do. Bonking random hookers is just one of them and, for me, it lost its novely many moons ago, Now, it is just perfucntory, no different from having my teeth cleaned and, often, a lot less fun.
All of these thigns go to make a happy monger. ;.Every time I go back to civilization, for a reunion, medical stuff or other matters, always short visits, I'm just like the Vietnam vets that were unable to adapt back to the normal life, and when I see all the bullshit and the fakery and nonsense, I can't wait to return to the PH.
Mr Enternational
03-21-25, 06:40
Also I like to read about interesting stuff, but lately with all the advances in the information technology, it seems that the whole world has become dumber instead to smart up. The news are all about politics and "celebrities", no mentions about science, nature, new discoveries, technology, etc. Like it doesn't exist anymore.Did you actually say that? The good part about advances in information technology is that you no longer have to sit around and wait for someone to feed you the news that they want to feed you. You can go online and only read about science, nature, new discoveries, etc without reading stuff about politics and celebrities.
My mom still waits around to watch the 6:00 news. Whenever I am at her house and this happens, I ask why she would waste 30 minutes watching this at 6 pm when she could have read it all online in 3 minutes at 2 pm. Old habits die hard.
FuriousGeorge
03-21-25, 08:42
Some good deep philosophical discussions going on here in the last few days. I haven't seen them until just now, because, sadly, I am a slave to the man still and my commute is long. Hopefully this will end in the next few years. In the meantime, TV is so good now, that I've been able to keep it together through the incredible level of entertainment offered to me weekly. I would encourage everyone to check out the Sam Rockwell monologue on the latest episode of White Lotus. It is heavy and disturbing. Or is it? What are the differences between ethics and morality?
WestCoast1
03-21-25, 09:02
I would encourage everyone to check out the Sam Rockwell monologue on the latest episode of White Lotus. It is heavy and disturbing. Or is it? What are the differences between ethics and morality?Stunningly deep, 4-minute excerpt from White Lotus*, referencing mongering. Yikes. We've mentioned before (and recently) about not being able to tell folks back home what life is like in-country, and here is a wild example. Not for the feint of heart.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSITUpElxso
* Never seen White Lotus until today. Besides FG, thanks to another board member for bringing this to my attention today.
FuriousGeorge
03-21-25, 09:25
It really is stunningly deep. And it also sums up what White Lotus is all about. People who are seemingly without problems seeking some kind of solace and peace and their place in the world. Most of these people are broken in some way. I've had this discussion with friends. Is the Sam Rockwell character a bad person? There are indications that he is, but is this monologue indicative of such? Either way, regarding the show, each season is fantastically entertaining and this season is particularly good.
Stunningly deep, 4-minute excerpt from White Lotus*, referencing mongering. Yikes. We've mentioned before (and recently) about not being able to tell folks back home what life is like in-country, and here is a wild example. Not for the feint of heart.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSITUpElxso
* Never seen White Lotus until today. Besides FG, thanks to another board member for bringing this to my attention today.
Mr Enternational
03-21-25, 11:37
Not for the feint of heart.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSITUpElxso
* Never seen White Lotus until today. Besides FG, thanks to another board member for bringing this to my attention today.When he sent it to me I clicked it off when he started talking about ladyboys. You have to be a serious actor to act it out as he did. I could not even listen to it.
Instigator23
03-21-25, 15:15
So I got back from the PH a couple of weeks ago and I stayed there for about 2 months.
I met a BG in manila and we had a great time. I immediately felt like I was falling for her. For the entire lengt of my trip we have been chatting. She came with me to one of the islands and I think we spend about 2 weeks physically together. Some of the nights I didn't have to pay her and it felt like she was my GF.
Now I'm back home and we are still talking and Video calling and wanting to see each other again. I'm trying to have her come visit me and I'll go back to her soon.
It feels as if we are in a long distance relationship but she is still working. I don't want to send her money at this stage to make her stop.
However I find it super difficult knowing she is still working at the bars and meeting other men. I'm trying to be supportive about it but I can't sleep when she is working.
Does anybody have a good experience or know of good experience where dating a BG goes as planned and she could become my GF or am I being naive?
Thanks for the insights.
My passions in life has always been pussy, and travel, that's what makes me happy, and I'm just continuing on doing just that. By combining the two of them it becomes interesting and not boring at all. Also I like to read about interesting stuff, but lately with all the advances in the information technology, it seems that the whole world has become dumber instead to smart up. The news are all about politics and "celebrities", no mentions about science, nature, new discoveries, technology, etc. Like it doesn't exist anymore.
Every time I go back to civilization, for a reunion, medical stuff or other matters, always short visits, I'm just like the Vietnam vets that were unable to adapt back to the normal life, and when I see all the bullshit and the fakery and nonsense, I can't wait to return to the PH.The legend of Ugly.
Sums it up perfectly.
Nothing more to be said.
_Phil.
MongerHunger
03-21-25, 17:16
So I got back from the PH a couple of weeks ago and I stayed there for about 2 months.
I met a BG in manila and we had a great time. I immediately felt like I was falling for her. For the entire lengt of my trip we have been chatting. She came with me to one of the islands and I think we spend about 2 weeks physically together. Some of the nights I didn't have to pay her and it felt like she was my GF.
Now I'm back home and we are still talking and Video calling and wanting to see each other again. I'm trying to have her come visit me and I'll go back to her soon.
It feels as if we are in a long distance relationship but she is still working. I don't want to send her money at this stage to make her stop.
However I find it super difficult knowing she is still working at the bars and meeting other men. I'm trying to be supportive about it but I can't sleep when she is working..A bargirl. She's messaging and video chatting with other men that she also has on the hook. Sounds like it's only a matter of time before you become one of her Western Union Boyfriends. You have to admit that she seems to be a seasoned pro that knows all the right moves and what to say. It's hard to give advice to someone that's "whipped". One thing I will advise. If you are genuinely looking for a girlfriend / wife, find a Province girl or one that is not in the profession of sleeping with multiple men per day. One thing that you will never ever forget about or get out of your head is her history.
Mr Enternational
03-21-25, 19:15
I met a BG in manila and we had a great time. I immediately felt like I was falling for her.Where you have written BG, erase that and replace it with the word prostitute and read your story again to figure out how much sense it makes.
Old And Ugly
03-21-25, 20:09
Did you actually say that? The good part about advances in information technology is that you no longer have to sit around and wait for someone to feed you the news that they want to feed you. You can go online and only read about science, nature, new discoveries, etc without reading stuff about politics and celebrities.
My mom still waits around to watch the 6:00 news. Whenever I am at her house and this happens, I ask why she would waste 30 minutes watching this at 6 pm when she could have read it all online in 3 minutes at 2 pm. Old habits die hard.No, no, no news on tv, I stopped doing that 20 years ago, when I realized that's all bullshit, I'm talking about on line reading. It still scarce, with lots of fake things.
Old And Ugly
03-21-25, 20:35
So I got back from the PH a couple of weeks ago and I stayed there for about 2 months.
I met a BG in manila and we had a great time. I immediately felt like I was falling for her. For the entire lengt of my trip we have been chatting. She came with me to one of the islands and I think we spend about 2 weeks physically together. Some of the nights I didn't have to pay her and it felt like she was my GF.
Now I'm back home and we are still talking and Video calling and wanting to see each other again. I'm trying to have her come visit me and I'll go back to her soon.
It feels as if we are in a long distance relationship but she is still working. I don't want to send her money at this stage to make her stop.
However I find it super difficult knowing she is still working at the bars and meeting other men. I'm trying to be supportive about it but I can't sleep when she is working.
Does anybody have a good experience or know of good experience where dating a BG goes as planned and she could become my GF or am I being naive?
Thanks for the insights.Everything is possible, she may be looking for a way out of that life, you may not care about her past, most wifes had been somebody's else women before, and not out of necessity like a BG, but by choice. All that said the chance of a happy relationship with one of them is minimal, but not impossible, I would say less than 10%. If you do take the risk, plan ahead and have contingency plans ready to be activated. Personally I would never get sentimentally involved with one, it's too prone to failure, and is possible that beside the bar customers that she needs to fuck for money in order to survive she may have a few guys in your situation on the back burner, most of this girls are naturals when comes on praying on men. Even if you are in a dark place right now, do not make rush decisions, think it over. If you still blinded by "love" and decide against all better judgement to do it, then take her away from AC or wherever she works, and have a few months test drive, when you monitor her activities, acting like you're stupid and blind. Not easy, but will save you from later surprises.
Does anybody have a good experience or know of good experience where dating a BG goes as planned and she could become my GF or am I being naive?
Thanks for the insights.Sure, I know a couple of examples of bar girls marrying and settling down to be suburban soccer moms. But I also know hundreds of examples where it spiralled out of control and caused the guy a lot of grief and money.
What are your plans when you bring her stateside and she misses her old party lifestyle, the constant flow of money, being the center of attention, that she regards micro shorts and a tube top as formal dress appropriate for anywhere? What about when your friends or other guys in town notice her particular skill set. She will try to hide her past but it always comes out and is very noticeable.
Do you want all the downside hassle just because she is nice to you and is a good lay when there are so many others without her baggage?
There are literally thousands of available girls in the Philippines. Many are very sweet where the question wouldn't even come up. Why would you even take the risk??
Locamotive
03-21-25, 22:36
Sure, I know a couple of examples of bar girls marrying and settling down to be suburban soccer moms. But I also know hundreds of examples where it spiralled out of control and caused the guy a lot of grief and money.
What are your plans when you bring her stateside and she misses her old party lifestyle, the constant flow of money, being the center of attention, that she regards micro shorts and a tube top as formal dress appropriate for anywhere? What about when your friends or other guys in town notice her particular skill set. She will try to hide her past but it always comes out and is very noticeable.
Do you want all the downside hassle just because she is nice to you and is a good lay when there are so many others without her baggage?
There are literally thousands of available girls in the Philippines. Many are very sweet where the question wouldn't even come up. Why would you even take the risk??That second paragraph is a big No No No!. Never ever take them out of the Matrix even if she is a virgin from some deep dark province and never seen a foreigner before. They are many horror stories about this onlineThe west culture is a cancer that will infect them. Now that being said as long as you stay there, yeah it can be ok. I've done this a couple times as most girls want to leave the bar, very few truly want to sleep with muliple men, women are just not wired that way. Are there true hard core prostitutes' that just love the money, sure, but you'll be able to tell those types in short order. I had a couple pulled them out of bars and everything was fine and they said thank God that was not for me. But. Hehe a few guys were still in their phones and I lost them both to guys who finally retired there. Can't blame them, good for them. I cannot be there all the time but they could. But yes it can work, bars do not make them trashy women as most just do it out of necessity.
Locamotive
03-21-25, 23:00
When he sent it to me I clicked it off when he started talking about ladyboys. You have to be a serious actor to act it out as he did. I could not even listen to it.
HaHaHa. True. His buddy just sitting there with his mouth open. Like WTF!. He is a good actor too loved him in "Justified"But I doubt many of us go over there and have those thoughts. That is some creepy shit, becoming a homosexual because you get bored screwing all those women. Good scene but people here watching that show thinking we become that living there or traveling there are sadly mistaken.
My mom still waits around to watch the 6:00 news. Whenever I am at her house and this happens, I ask why she would waste 30 minutes watching this at 6 pm when she could have read it all online in 3 minutes at 2 pm. Old habits die hard.Goferring and Old & Ugly made some incisiive poitns, the one about the lost Vietnam vets being an excellent one. Hello John Rambo. There was a best seller in England a few decades back about an ex Colonel Blimp colonial chap who did it all in Kenya, the Kyber Pass etc, shooting tigers, elephants etc and ended up tending a rose garden in Sussex.
You could learn things from your mommy as she has a routine. Does her stuff, listens to the news, does more stuff. We could all do with a well thought out routine. That is the issue for me.
WestCoast1
03-28-25, 12:43
Logging out of ISG today, this ad came up on the bottom of the page (first pic). Get your boner pills, get your Doxy / PREP.
Clicking on it took me to the boner sachets. Seven sachets, 100 MG each vitamin V, $15 USD ($2 per sachet). Not sure of delivery costs or time.
Trevor2522
03-31-25, 10:22
I recently had bad experiences with Grab cars being half-full of the drivers' junk, leaving little room for suitcases or passengers. Then booked a 6-seater and a small saloon car turned up. Later, the app actually booked a ride I was setting up for arrival, whilst on an inter-city bus approaching Manila -- without clicking on 'Standard Car' or 'Saver Car'. Likely caused by Internet glitches and the bumpy road, but it cost me P50 to cancel and Grab's subsequent customer service is a total ZERO!
Brave AI found the following alternatives to Grab. Would seasoned visitors stick with them, despite their faults, or use an alternative below? There are also several companies running white, supposedly-metered taxis, which can be ordered by phone.
Angkas: Known for providing motorcycle taxi services, Angkas is a popular choice for short distances and avoiding traffic congestion.
JoyRide: This app offers a range of transportation options including private cars and motorcycles, catering to various travel needs.
OWTO: Provides a variety of transportation services, including car rentals and private car services, making it a versatile option for travelers.
TokTok: TokTok is another ride-hailing app that offers both car and motorcycle services, providing flexible and affordable transportation options.
EPickMeUp: This app focuses on providing safe and reliable transportation services, with an emphasis on customer satisfaction.
Go Lag: Go Lag is another option for ride-hailing services in the Philippines, offering both car and motorcycle rides.
These apps provide various transportation options to enhance urban transport in the Philippines, similar to what Grab offers.
get your Doxy / PREP.
The ads mentions three pills. Doxycycline, prep, azithromycin. Can you please explain the pills usage and personal experience?
I do know the basics but would like to know views on being safe even while barebacking the filipinas.
MongerHunger
03-31-25, 21:56
The ads mentions three pills. Doxycycline, prep, azithromycin. Can you please explain the pills usage and personal experience?
I do know the basics but would like to know views on being safe even while barebacking the filipinas.https://www.cdc.gov/
MongerHunger
03-31-25, 21:59
The ads mentions three pills. Doxycycline, prep, azithromycin. Can you please explain the pills usage and personal experience?
I do know the basics but would like to know views on being safe even while barebacking the filipinas.Find description and dosage information here:
https://www.cdc.gov/
WestCoast1
03-31-25, 23:45
The ads mentions three pills. Doxycycline, prep, azithromycin. Can you please explain the pills usage and personal experience?
I do know the basics but would like to know views on being safe even while barebacking the filipinas.Doxy and zithro are antibiotics. PrEP is an antiviral for preventing HIV transmission. There are previous posts from the fellas regarding these. In the upper-right corner of ISG web pages is an ADVANCED SEARCH function; please use that to find posts containing those words (or just Google it).
Trevor2522
04-01-25, 07:23
Doxy and zithro are antibiotics. PrEP is an antiviral for preventing HIV transmission.HIV, Covid, AIDS and viruses in general are all part of the Rockefeller medical-mafia myth ... in order to sell their ultimately-harmful, petrochemical-based drugs, create propaganda-based 'plandemics' and inject population-controlling nanotech through 'vaccines'.
In the 19th century, pure gum spirits of turpentine from pine trees were used as an effective cure-all; mentioned in the Merck manual of 1899, and used by native Americans.
Also look at chlorine dioxide / MMS / CDS / Jim Humble -- as a general, pathogen cleanse and detox aid. A German friend told me he used it to cure his drippy-dick (likely chlamydia) in Bangkok. Not pleasant to take but very safe. That was what Trump's, cryptic, Covid 'bleach remedy' reference of 2021 was about: a political parrot, squawking a few truths.
Chocha Monger
04-01-25, 23:54
HIV, Covid, AIDS and viruses in general are all part of the Rockefeller medical-mafia myth ... in order to sell their ultimately-harmful, petrochemical-based drugs, create propaganda-based 'plandemics' and inject population-controlling nanotech through 'vaccines'.
In the 19th century, pure gum spirits of turpentine from pine trees were used as an effective cure-all; mentioned in the Merck manual of 1899, and used by native Americans.
Also look at chlorine dioxide / MMS / CDS / Jim Humble -- as a general, pathogen cleanse and detox aid. A German friend told me he used it to cure his drippy-dick (likely chlamydia) in Bangkok. Not pleasant to take but very safe. That was what Trump's, cryptic, Covid 'bleach remedy' reference of 2021 was about: a political parrot, squawking a few truths.Soaking one's marshmallow in laundry grade Clorox bleach seems like a painful way to cure the drips from a chlamydia dick.
Trevor2522
04-02-25, 06:22
Soaking one's marshmallow in laundry grade Clorox bleach seems like a painful way to cure the drips from a chlamydia dick.Chlorine dioxide / MMS / CDS is taken orally. Not a pleasant smell, but it works, and would be my preference if infected with anything. I buy from mmstabs dot com: 'Easymms' ... $19.99 for 6, plus shipping from Ireland or South Africa. Activate with acetic acid or, in an emergency, lime juice. eBay dot com sells as 'Water Treatment Drops' (sodium chlorite, NaClO2). YouTube / various articles will explain how to mix and take. From Brave AI :
Activating sodium chlorite with acetic acid produces chlorine dioxide (ClO2), a potent and useful oxidizing agent. This process involves the reaction of sodium chlorite with an acid, such as acetic acid, to generate chlorine dioxide gas. The reaction requires a combination of a base (organic acid like acetic acid) and an activator (sodium chlorite) to produce free chlorine dioxide. Chlorine dioxide is widely used in water treatment and as an antimicrobial agent in various applications, e.g. cleaning fruit/veg. It is effective across a broad pH range and has been shown to be more powerful than chlorine, with fewer harmful by-products when reacting with organics. When sodium chlorite is mixed with acetic acid, the solution should be prepared on-site due to the instability of chlorine dioxide. The reaction typically requires specific conditions, such as the appropriate concentration and pH level, to ensure the efficient production of chlorine dioxide. Organic acids like acetic acid can produce chlorine dioxide solutions that are less affected by peptone load and more stable than those produced with inorganic acids. This can enhance the antimicrobial efficacy of the chlorine dioxide generated.
Hello all. Planning my first trip to SEA. Trip will be 6-7 weeks. I am flying into MNL (yea, I know, but it's the only direct flight from US). I plan to stay a week in the phils, then fly to Vietnam for a week, then Thailand for a while, then back to the Phils for a week or two before returning home. Might consider flying to Jakarta for a few days if I get bored in Thailand, just becaue it seems to be popular with folks here. A couple of questions for those who have been around the block a few times:
- For the phils, I only need to complete ETDS a few days before and that is it, correct? There should be no problem with coming and going to other SEA nations, so long as I do not stay more than a total of 30 days in the phils combined? Or will the 'in and out' privileges require a ETDS every time, and possibly a visa of some sort?
- For Vietnam, I will have to apply for an e-visa. Are there any other hidden requirements I need to know about?
- For Thailand, I only need to complete the TDAC, and will get visa on entry for up to 60 days. Is this correct?
- For Indonesia, a visa on arrival is granted for short stays, correct? I will have onward tickets and accommodations ready for all of the above. Any feedback is appreciated.
Reference: https://singlemanforum.com/t/sea-visit.8022/.
- For the phils, I only need to complete ETDS a few days before and that is it, correct? There should be no problem with coming and going to other SEA nations, so long as I do not stay more than a total of 30 days in the phils combined? Or will the 'in and out' privileges require a ETDS every time, and possibly a visa of some sort? NEED NEW ONE FOR EACH ENTRY.
- For Thailand, I only need to complete the TDAC, and will get visa on entry for up to 60 days. Is this correct? JUST ARRIVE AT AIRPORT. NOTHING NEEDED IN ADVANCE.
Reference: https://singlemanforum.com/t/sea-visit.8022/.See answers in CAPs.
Trevor2522
04-13-25, 08:37
For the phils, I only need to complete ETDS a few days before and that is it, correct? There should be no problem with coming and going to other SEA nations, so long as I do not stay more than a total of 30 days in the phils combined? Or will the 'in and out' privileges require a ?ETDS? every time, and possibly a visa of some sorthttps://etravel.gov.ph up to 72 hours prior to arrival & departure. It goes into the system; I printed it out but they didn't look. Same with onward air ticket: only your last check-in looks, in case they have to pay to fly you back. You can extend in the Philippines online (once) for 29 days. It's called 'visa-waiver'. Each return you get 30 days. Miraculously, it can be extended to 3 years as a tourist, within the country, but the authorities are clamping down on that old, 1940, US-imperial law, and pushing long-stayers towards getting proper visas. American-English rules, but don't let that trick you into thinking it is not still a third-world country.
For Vietnam, I will have to apply for an e-visa. Are there any other hidden requirements I need to know about?No; just follow the rules. Hope you're young because the hotties are quite ageist. Watch out for pubic hairs in your sweet-and-sour pork! Or was it public hairs? No; definitely pubic (1992)!
For Thailand, I only need to complete the TDAC, and will get visa on entry for up to 60 days. Is this correct?TDAC starts 1st May 2025. They have threatened to reduce their visa-waivers to 30 days but can't make up their minds when. Even so, will still be possible to extend in-country, for 30 days, at an immigration office. British-English is more prevalent. Be careful crossing: they drive on the left; Indonesia also.
For Indonesia, a visa on arrival is granted for short stays, correct? I will have onward tickets and accommodations ready for all of the above. Any feedback is appreciated.Same, 30-day and ticketing entry rule. Have a nice satay! Former Dutch colony but, like Thailand, English is widely understood. Car = mobil; fridge = kulkas; mobile/cellular phone = ponsel/telepon seluler.
Excellent grand-tour; some dudes settle in one country without comparing it to the others, which I find strange.
Hello all. Planning my first trip to SEA. Trip will be 6-7 weeks. I am flying into MNL (yea, I know, but it's the only direct flight from US). I plan to stay a week in the phils, then fly to Vietnam for a week, then Thailand for a while, then back to the Phils for a week or two before returning home. Might consider flying to Jakarta for a few days if I get bored in Thailand, just becaue it seems to be popular with folks here. A couple of questions for those who have been around the block a few times:
- For the phils, I only need to complete ETDS a few days before and that is it, correct? There should be no problem with coming and going to other SEA nations, so long as I do not stay more than a total of 30 days in the phils combined? Or will the 'in and out' privileges require a ETDS every time, and possibly a visa of some sort?
- For Vietnam, I will have to apply for an e-visa. Are there any other hidden requirements I need to know about?
- For Thailand, I only need to complete the TDAC, and will get visa on entry for up to 60 days. Is this correct?
- For Indonesia, a visa on arrival is granted for short stays, correct? I will have onward tickets and accommodations ready for all of the above. Any feedback is appreciated.
Reference: https://singlemanforum.com/t/sea-visit.8022/.What Trevor said. Here are a few minor additions.
For <30 day stays, all the countries mentioned have very easy visa processes. Just have everything ready a few days in advance in case of online crashed etc. VND has made expensive corrections to mistaken applications a new revenue stream so double check everything on your application. Reversing first / middle / lastnames is a common one.
You won't get bored in Thailand. Of your list, if you need or want to squeeze in Jakarta, I'd drop Vietnam. Having said that Vietnam has a lot more culturally than Jakarta but Jakarta has the girls. You pick your priority. Stay in Jakarta and skip Bali unless you like partying with drunken Aussies and $300 hoes. Another option, not on your list, would be Cambodia. It has both girls and sites to see
I normally recommend that Asia is not a place for planning everything to the nth degree but, in your case, a week or so isn't a long time in each new to you city so do your research and have a pretty good idea of what you want to do and see.
Sounds like a great holiday. G.
Hi, experienced members.
I've read some threads about Philippines, but my question seems a bit different, indeed.
I plan to visit Philippines for 1st time this autumn (have a couple of business meetings in Manilla but managed to take 1 free week afterwards, probably strolling around Luzon & Cebu, hiking, enjoying beaches, the usual stuff). But visiting alone is not the funniest.
Do you think it would be possible to find 1 girlfriend for the week (some kind of GF, to share my activities during the days, and the bed sitting the night)?
I'm 41, Caucasian, good shape.
I have several months (and some free time) before going there to make contacts, but once in the phils I would prefer enjoying my trip rather than losing days 'chasing'. What would be the possibilities, if they exist?
I've read bad comments about seeking which initially appeared as the 'logical'*option, so what else? And is it better to start planning from now?
Thanks for advices.
Old And Ugly
04-14-25, 18:24
Hi, experienced members.
I've read some threads about Philippines, but my question seems a bit different, indeed.
I plan to visit Philippines for 1st time this autumn (have a couple of business meetings in Manilla but managed to take 1 free week afterwards, probably strolling around Luzon & Cebu, hiking, enjoying beaches, the usual stuff). But visiting alone is not the funniest.
Do you think it would be possible to find 1 girlfriend for the week (some kind of GF, to share my activities during the days, and the bed sitting the night)?
I'm 41, Caucasian, good shape.
I have several months (and some free time) before going there to make contacts, but once in the phils I would prefer enjoying my trip rather than losing days 'chasing'. What would be the possibilities, if they exist?
I've read bad comments about seeking which initially appeared as the 'logical'*option, so what else? And is it better to start planning from now?
Thanks for advices.Looks don't matter that much, money talks. Use whatever app you like, if that's the route you want to take, but don't do it until you're ready to come here, or even better when you're here already. Don't waste your time talking to the girls months in advance, it will most likely not lead anywhere, and you may get scammed.
1 free week afterwards, probably strolling around Luzon & Cebu, hiking, enjoying beaches, the usual stuff)..Hookers like nothing more thanca long hike and an early morning start.
Good luck with finding Alice.
I plan to visit Philippines for 1st time this autumn (have a couple of business meetings in Manilla but managed to take 1 free week afterwards, probably strolling around Luzon & Cebu, hiking, enjoying beaches, the usual stuff). But visiting alone is not the funniest.
Do you think it would be possible to find 1 girlfriend for the week (some kind of GF, to share my activities during the days, and the bed sitting the night)?
Sir Ugly is correct: no need for months of groundwork. At most a few days before you are ready to go on your tour.
It's very common for girls to no-show or not to be as described online so you want to road test them before leaving. You don't want them on their best behaviour just to win the prize so I wouldn't even mention the holiday. Just sort through a few (perhaps while your in town for business) and offer the best one to come with you. Obviously have this unspoken end goal in mind when you are first selecting girls to meet up with. You don't want someone with a job or family commitments. Go for someone unemployed, can meet at short notice and who doesn't take too much convincing to spend the night with you. If you have any special demands, then they can be trialled during this time too.
Typical rates for a week are the equivalent of one ST per day. No need to pay her more for the extended time. A longer booking will likely be more cash than she has seen in a long time.
In short, what you are looking for is quite common and very achievable.
Enjoy. G.
I've read bad comments about seeking which initially appeared as the 'logical'*option, so what else? And is it better to start planning from now?
Thanks for advices.Seeking girls will often quote eye watering prices. The better ones will also have school commitments.
Much better to find girls in the usual sites: PinaLove, DIA etc.
G.
Hookers like nothing more thanca long hike and an early morning start.
Good luck with finding Alice.That made me laugh. It's easy to find girls to travel with (or meet there) but, yes, early morning starts and physical exercise aren't their forte. Best to leave them in bed and come back later.
G.
Sir Ugly is correct: no need for months of groundwork. At most a few days before you are ready to go on your tour.
Go for someone unemployed, can meet at short notice and who doesn't take too much convincing to spend the night with you. If you have any special demands, then they can be trialled during this time too.
Typical rates for a week are the equivalent of one ST per day. No need to pay her more for the extended time. A longer booking will likely be more cash than she has seen in a long time.
In short, what you are looking for is quite common and very achievable.
Enjoy. G.Good call G and Ugly and Hello, Piotr.
I've had a store girl recently hit on me but she didn't finish work until 10 pm each night.
That happened years ago in Cebu and I didn't want to take the risk of another no-show. A night wasted.
Same for hitting up potential girls way in advance.
When you hit the ground in the Phils, better to hit the ground running rather than chasing older hits on dating sites.
And yes, if you negotiate with a girl away from the bar scene, you'll get a lot more value for your money.
If you get on a dating site like Pina Love when you arrive, you'll get lots of hits.
Just weed through the hits and chat to one who has the same intention as you.
(A good short time with rewards).
Just from experience (and lots of hits) _ Phil.
So, thanks, Guys.
I naively thought that I had to make contacts well in advance. I would have wasted my time, indeed.
BTW, no problem to get a potential 'girlfriend' to my hotel room? Need to register at the lobby?
And, of course, everything depends on the personality, willingness and schedule of each people, but I suppose it would be easier to get 1 girl in Manila and 1 in Cebu, rather than 1 OK to come with me around Cebu?
What's everyone's attitude and workflow when it comes to contacts and WhatsApp message? I've got several thousand built up over the years but only maybe a hundred or so that are active and useful. Many times I loose track of good contacts because they are hidden behind or around useless ones.
Do people: keep all contacts because the don't do any harm and may be useful sometime; delete as you go; do a major purge every so often; something else??
Any suggestions on how to do a major purge in android?
Thanks. G.
Old And Ugly
04-27-25, 08:31
What's everyone's attitude and workflow when it comes to contacts and WhatsApp message? I've got several thousand built up over the years but only maybe a hundred or so that are active and useful. Many times I loose track of good contacts because they are hidden behind or around useless ones.
Do people: keep all contacts because the don't do any harm and may be useful sometime; delete as you go; do a major purge every so often; something else??
Any suggestions on how to do a major purge in android?
Thanks. G.A few days ago when I had plenty of time on my US flight I deleted most of my contacts that I didn't use in the past 3 years, and almost all my girly contacts that I didn't kept in touch, no reason to clog up my searches in the contact list.
The way I had organized the mongering section, was to add in the "company field" an X followed by the city, and place, it looks like this: X AC Lollypop 3's, and it means that she's in Angeles City, got her from Lollypop, and she good at 3 somes. Or X Biliran PL: she's in Biliran, got her from Pina Love, etc.
A few days ago when I had plenty of time on my US flight I deleted most of my contacts that I didn't use in the past 3 years, and almost all my girly contacts that I didn't kept in touch, no reason to clog up my searches in the contact list.
The way I had organized the mongering section, was to add in the "company field" an X followed by the city, and place, it looks like this: X AC Lollypop 3's, and it means that she's in Angeles City, got her from Lollypop, and she good at 3 somes. Or X Biliran PL: she's in Biliran, got her from Pina Love, etc.What's the X for? I use the same but X means don't contact again. I also use 'Met' as I have plenty of number that I chatted to, wanted to meet, but ran out of time etc. A surprising number so pop up later or subsequent trips and we do catch up then.
Mr Enternational
04-27-25, 14:00
What's the X for? I use the same but X means don't contact again. I also use 'Met' as I have plenty of number that I chatted to, wanted to meet, but ran out of time etc. A surprising number so pop up later or subsequent trips and we do catch up then.For me XX is just a placeholder for hookers. I can search XX MNL and all the Manila hookers will come up or XX BKK and all the Bangkok hookers will come up.
For me XX is just a placeholder for hookers. I can search XX MNL and all the Manila hookers will come up or XX BKK and all the Bangkok hookers will come up.Aah. Mine is a play only phone. I would need a place holder for the civilians. I think there are about 3 numbers in there that aren't available girls. 😀.
My big ones are X for stay away and Met for I already know them and have done the deed.
G.
So, thanks, Guys.
I naively thought that I had to make contacts well in advance. I would have wasted my time, indeed.
BTW, no problem to get a potential 'girlfriend' to my hotel room? Need to register at the lobby?Mate, first rule is to book a room for two people (it generally won't cost you any more).
Basically all hotels will ask for the girl's ID. If she's bad news and they know of her, they won't deal with her.
If she wants to go off-site at a short time hotel and doesn't have ID there's warning signs to commence with.
You'd have to do a bit of research to see if your potential hotel is girl friendly.
I'm sure that can be taken care for you on this forum or elsewhere.
I've never had a problem except for staying in a business hotel recently in Subic Freeport Zone on a work trip. The work-around is always tipping and being friendly to the door and security guys.
_Phil.
What's everyone's attitude and workflow when it comes to contacts and WhatsApp message? I've got several thousand built up over the years but only maybe a hundred or so that are active and useful. Many times I loose track of good contacts because they are hidden behind or around useless ones.
Do people: keep all contacts because the don't do any harm and may be useful sometime; delete as you go; do a major purge every so often; something else??
Thanks. G.Hi G,
I generally only keep a max of about 20 contacts on WhatsApp.
Usually they're the most frequent, or the ones that haven't demanded too much money.
On my last trip, the flight actually arrived on time and after a few beers at the hotel in Makati, I was in the mood for a root before travelling the next day.
Even though I'd deleted Ashley, I managed to dig her up again on WhatsApp and had a hotel delivery.
Can't remember exactly how I did it, but I know you can still contact those that you have given the flick in the past.
_Phil.
Old And Ugly
04-27-25, 18:35
What's the X for? I use the same but X means don't contact again. I also use 'Met' as I have plenty of number that I chatted to, wanted to meet, but ran out of time etc. A surprising number so pop up later or subsequent trips and we do catch up then.I use X for sex, kind of like "x rated", but is just an example how to organize contacts.
Currently, nothing has really changed over the last few months. Most international flights still enter at Terminal 1, unless you're entering on Cebu Pacific.
Here is some advice that I don't know has been posted here before.
Terminal transfer busses are free. If you fly in to terminal 1 and have a flight going to province on Terminal 3 (or fly to Manila on terminal 3 and going back to your home country on terminal 1), you just need to show that your flight is leaving from another terminal within a few hours. They will take your name and ID and write it down (for their records, I suppose) and then you get on the terminal bus. Each terminal does it a little differently. Terminal 1 has its own designated indoor seated area for you. Terminal 3 does not have such an area. You need to exit and look for the Grab terminal all the way to the eighth, then look across from it for a kiosk for the terminal transfer bus. There WILL be people that accost you and try to direct you to the paid terminal transfer bus, or that lie and say that the next transfer bus leaves after your flight, or that try to direct to your taxi that is the same as a Grab taxi. Do not believe them. The terminal transfer bus is free and is always running, even if you have to wait a little while for it. Just be prepared with some extra time.
As with anything else in the Philippines, the guards are super helpful. If you can't find the terminal transfer bus kiosk, ask one and they will direct you. Don't let the vultures there take advantage of you with a 1 k+ peso ride to another terminal.
Last piece of advice is, if you are leaving the airport, find the Grab terminal in the arrivals area outside. It is the cheapest option. Even if you have Grab app on your phone, use the grab kiosk / terminal in the arrivals area. It is what the Grab drivers at the airport respond to.
My last trip, I landed at Terminal 1 at 6:40 pm. I went through immigration, baggage claim, went to exchange currency, got Grab, and arrived at my hotel in Newport City across terminal 3 at 7:50 pm. All in all, it was fast. Most of the dead wait time was at baggage claim. Everything else was fast. If I had only a carry on, I could have been to the hotel in 30 minutes or less.
BaddHabbit
04-28-25, 07:19
What's everyone's attitude and workflow when it comes to contacts and WhatsApp message? I've got several thousand built up over the years but only maybe a hundred or so that are active and useful. Many times I loose track of good contacts because they are hidden behind or around useless ones.
Do people: keep all contacts because the don't do any harm and may be useful sometime; delete as you go; do a major purge every so often; something else??Don't forget that you can also create groups or lists in WhatsApp to use that as a secondary level of organisation. I also use the company Field as the source info, and the group for location.
Some of you must have cocks made of titanium with all the drilling you do. Really impressive from an industrial laser point of view. I'm just planning my next visitforl ater in the year, casual wander around, some bonking, no spread sheet, no AI assisistant.
I don't have a set 'type' but I am sometimes fond of petite little spinners when one can be found. I've picked up quite a few over the years in various countries. Some looking at the lower age limit of legal.
A friend of mine recently told me of a beauty he'd taken to his hotel in Indonesia who confessed she was only 17. He'd been told she was 18 before taking her to his room.
I'm a little terrified of making this mistake and finding myself breaking the law. What checks do you conduct before taking her to your room? Are fake ids common, so you could find yourself with a 16 or 17 year old but think she was 18 or above?
I don't have a set 'type' but I am sometimes fond of petite little spinners when one can be found. I've picked up quite a few over the years in various countries. Some looking at the lower age limit of legal.
A friend of mine recently told me of a beauty he'd taken to his hotel in Indonesia who confessed she was only 17. He'd been told she was 18 before taking her to his room.
I'm a little terrified of making this mistake and finding myself breaking the law. What checks do you conduct before taking her to your room? Are fake ids common, so you could find yourself with a 16 or 17 year old but think she was 18 or above?I boinked a hooker in Angeles new to the trade and she told me how she met a despindent Western guy, who had been done with this under age scam, and how the cops cleaned out his assets. These scams happen and the one of getting guys to wank online before bribing them was invented by a Pinay hooker. In Angeles, there is a group of ladies, ladyboys and general waster, s, many of whom are under age and sell peanuts and the like. Muddy waters and, though many of them were born without brains, I am sure others would play along with such a scam. I don; t go near under 25's at all now. ;.
Old And Ugly
04-28-25, 15:51
I think the koreans like them looking like kids, if you go to Sky Falls they all look like kids, probably they are over 18 otherwise wouldn't be working in a bar, but for me is a no go. The bad thing is that the older they are, the more likely is to have babies, and therefore baby damage, and I should add: brain damage also.
I don't have a set 'type' but I am sometimes fond of petite little spinners when one can be found. I've picked up quite a few over the years in various countries. Some looking at the lower age limit of legal.
A friend of mine recently told me of a beauty he'd taken to his hotel in Indonesia who confessed she was only 17. He'd been told she was 18 before taking her to his room.
I'm a little terrified of making this mistake and finding myself breaking the law. What checks do you conduct before taking her to your room? Are fake ids common, so you could find yourself with a 16 or 17 year old but think she was 18 or above?Honestly, if you like them on the younger side, it is a risk. Get verbal age (and consent) from the girl. Ask to see her ID. Now, the Philippines has a hodgepodge of IDs. Any of them could be fake, potentially, but some are harder to fake. National ID or a passport is the best to ask to see. Others, such as Postal ID, could also be okay. Stay away from things that could be easily forged, like certifications, barangay or police clearances, etc.
Finding girls in a place where they have to be legal to work (such as a bar or a job that requires a diploma or degree) is also a good idea. And, more than anything, be aware of your surroundings. If your gut tells you something might be off, trust it. You don't want to end up the target of blackmail or a shakedown.
WestCoast1
04-30-25, 12:05
Interesting article, in the mold of passport bro's. Topic: Women in the US who simply can't be dated, because her life is too easy and she has no need for you.
No wonder the fellas flock to asia.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/kelley_greene/dating-women-who-like-to-be-alone?origin=hfspl
Old And Ugly
04-30-25, 14:38
I do young looking ones only when staying at a place with a reception or security guard, and I ask them to check the girls credentials, therefore if something goes wrong I do have a witness that she presented herself as being of legal age, and she may be also accused of forgery of official documents.
For example I got these 2 students at the Clark Museum, and I was afraid about them lying about their age, especially the one to the left so they had to be checked.
Don't forget that you can also create groups or lists in WhatsApp to use that as a secondary level of organisation. I also use the company Field as the source info, and the group for location.I did the big purge. 4500 to 23 in Contacts and WhatsApp. While I was at it, I did the same for photos. Obviously tonnes of deadwood. Now even I can remember who is who.
I may have kept a couple who, while I'll probably never see them again, bring back great memories. 🙂.
Cheers. G.
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