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As for big titties DCups, yes I've got one 'gifted' contact in Sabang and another in MNL. Both girls are not necessarily skinny, though great in the sack.
For the inquisitive, if it's huge boobs you're after in the PH you may be disappointed. However, the tasty pussies and generally great little bodies will make up for huge knockers _ Phil.Thanks, PJ. I see you don't have PM yet. I'm always looking for new talent in MNL Cheers.
CreateNinnov8
06-19-24, 10:40
Hello,
Will be in Manila. Staying at City Garden Grand Makati from 22 June-1 July.
WestCoast1
06-19-24, 15:55
Good news. At the street money exchange near Burgos St, next to Sunette Tower and across from Durban Hotel, a little birdy tells me that they are giving p58.00 to the US Dollar. I love that little bird, and so should you. He gets the goods.
Yep they are, been changing money there last couple weeks. Highest I've found so far. Sadly go home today, hope it stays this high.Mate living in Makati said he saw 58.10 to 1 USD at an SM Hypermart exchange in Makati. Still inching up (which is also what my last girl said, looking bored).
Mate living in Makati said he saw 58.10 to 1 USD at an SM Hypermart exchange in Makati. Still inching up (which is also what my last girl said, looking bored).The USD will remain very strong for next few months.
Reason: The US Federal Reserve has pushed back the timeline to cut Interest Rates.
The first cut is now expected in November (after the US Presidential election).
Enjoy the strong US Dollar while it lasts. You won't get this exchange rate next year.
~BKK
Mate living in Makati said he saw 58.10 to 1 USD at an SM Hypermart exchange in Makati. Still inching up (which is also what my last girl said, looking bored).I got 58.20 at the airport yesterday.
FlyGuyEddie007
06-20-24, 13:49
The USD will remain very strong for next few months.
Reason: The US Federal Reserve has pushed back the timeline to cut Interest Rates.
The first cut is now expected in November (after the US Presidential election).
Enjoy the strong US Dollar while it lasts. You won't get this exchange rate next year.
~BKKGlad I am coming there in October then thanks for the heads up.
Hello,
Will be in Manila. Staying at City Garden Grand Makati from 22 June-1 July.Hi Create. Enjoy your stay. I usually book the other City Grand across the road and have never had a problem with 'room service' - You'll either love Makati or will feel disappointed. It all depends what you're into. Never-the-less, the PH is a great spot with some fantastic women. Phil.
GrandeLoad
06-22-24, 04:28
Day 0: Got in to Manila at 9:30 pm, was the first in line at customs where the gal asked if I completed eTravel. Per other reports, and the fact my airline didn't specify this, I hadn't so she sent me to the back of the line to complete it. The report I read said it was only for local Filipinos, but apparently that's incorrect at least per this gals insistence, I could see several other passengers were having the customs agents fill it out on their phones for them. It's not hard though and in a few minutes I was back in line, when I got up to a different customs agent they didn't ask about e-travel at all, I assume it might have pulled my info up or I suppose it's equally as likely it depends on the customs agent you get whether they require it or not.
After that it was smooth sailing to pick up my bag, exchange some money (I got 57.70 at the airport kiosk), and pick up a SIM for a spare phone I brought with me. I opted for the lowest tier smart plan for 2100 pesos, unlimited calls texts I think 50 GB of data that I'll not use, the SIM place is cash only so you'll need to exchange first but they're close to each other. Outside to the hotel lounge area where they had my name on a list for shuttles to take me to the hotel, the ride was as harrowing as I remember it from the last time I was here, traffic lanes are definitely a suggestion here LOL. Got to the hotel about 11, only felt like eating and passing out.
Day 1 (Saturday, in progress): had some breakfast and decided to walk around the alabang area, the heat here is oppressive and it's humid AF. Made it to ATC and had to stop in Starbucks for some water LOL. Not much going on there yet as it had just opened and there don't seem to be any ladies walking around that looks like they were available, I'll try this again later in the evening. Caught a grab back to the hotel just to see how that worked, it was pretty seamless and very cheap.
At the hotel I was milling around downstairs and finally decided to put in practice some advice I'd seen on the forum and start chatting up the security guard up front. Told him about my previous trip and now I had a lot of fun meeting pretty girls, and how could I do that again? He said hold on and went and got the hotel driver. Driver comes and says I can book the hotel van for a couple hours in the evening, ask what I was looking for if I was interested in going to the bars and I said the bars are okay, but last time I was here I was taken to some casas which were a good experience and I'd be interested to do that again. He said he knew the right driver that would know how to take care of me, so we went up to the front desk and booked it. It's pretty expensive at 4500, but I figure that's worth it for the Cadillac option and I'll use this evening to make some contacts, get some numbers. So now I think I'm going to relax a bit, get some lunch. Maybe go get a massage, and look forward to my outing tonight I'll follow up with the deets.
...Caught a grab back to the hotel just to see how that worked, it was pretty seamless and very cheap...Did you pay cash or have Grab fixed the app to allow direct debit from a foreign CCard?
I'm looking forward to a report on Casas. I don't think we have had info on a white boy visiting these for a decade.
Go forth and keep us informed 😊.
Enjoy. G.
GrandeLoad
06-22-24, 07:36
Did you pay cash or have Grab fixed the app to allow direct debit from a foreign CCard?
I'm looking forward to a report on Casas. I don't think we have had info on a white boy visiting these for a decade.I did use my personal CC to verify in the Grab app, apparently the phone I got specifically for my trip here has a broken forward camera so I couldn't verify with a selfie. I paid the driver in cash though.
Yeah been about 10 years since I was last taken to a casa LOL, I recall there being many beautiful women there compared to the first bar, so I'm excited.
Oh regarding my first trip: apparently this was quite strange according to a well-established member so I want to tell the story here and see if anyone knows what the hell was going on LOL. We were first taken to this bar, I have no idea where but maybe within a half hour or so of the Alabang area. It was like some kind of semi-rundown nightclub, but they confiscated our cell phones at the entrance which really sketched me out. But I was with a group of co-workers and they didn't seem to mind so I went with it. Once we were inside there were several booths, and a stage with some girls dancing, but all around were dudes in teal scrubs giving massages to the other patrons while said patrons engaged with whatever girls they had with them. The other patrons all seemed to be foreigners, white guys mostly. So we're all crammed into a booth wondering what the hell's going on, when several of the scrub guys step over the back of the chairs and start giving us massages. Nowadays I'd tell him to get the f* off me, but back then we were mostly just rolling with it, but it was weird so we all decided to leave and these guys demanded payment, I think it was like 140 pesos or something not much. But anyway that was weird AF, and again like 10 years ago, so I'm wondering if anyone knows what the heck that was?
At the hotel I was milling around downstairs and finally decided to put in practice some advice I'd seen on the forum and start chatting up the security guard up front. Told him about my previous trip and now I had a lot of fun meeting pretty girls, and how could I do that again? Great report GL, Yes the hotel security guys are generally my go-to. They're obviously going to get a kick-back and if you build up a good rapport with them, you can get some very satisfying results. Enjoy! Phil.
GrandeLoad
06-23-24, 10:24
Well that ended up being kind of a bust. The driver I was connected with doesn't seem to have much knowledge of the area. He took me to a place called Aaliyah not too far from the hotel, a KTV bar. It was obnoxiously loud and crowded with locals, the girls were trotted out in front of me and I picked a very good looking one in a little pink dress. Had a couple of drinks myself and bought her two lady drinks for a pittance, she seemed to have the personality of a desk lamp though. Complained about perverts asking her to go back to the hotel, I wasn't feeling staying at the place or chatting with her any further so we tabbed out and left, drinks for me, her her and then two for my driver ended up being just shy of a 1000 pesos. After that he took me to a place called Starfleet, about 20 minutes north of us, this seemed to be a fishbowl place? I think I've seen it described. Several rooms with 20 or so girls in each. I picked one and paid the room fee of 2300. We did this weird shower thing that I wasn't a fan of where she lathered up with soap and rubbed herself all over me as I lay face down on this plastic mattress. She then whips out the tiniest condom I've ever seen and tries to put it on me, after some back and forth it seems clear I'm only getting in her with a condom. I'm pretty annoyed so I just have her finish me with a HJ, she has the audacity to ask for tip too. I paid her 2300, made a point of telling her no tip, and bounced back to the hotel.
So now I don't know, kind of dejected and not sure I want to go out again with this driver as he doesn't have good knowledge or contacts in this area. It's 5:20 on a Sunday, was thinking about maybe taking a grab myself up to lips but I don't know if I'm motivated at this point and isn't it supposed to be dead on Sundays?
I was there a few weeks ago and I'm still putting together some reports I'll post later, but it seems you need immediate suggestions LOL.
Try Manila Courtesans, specifically Jade, Daisy, Vanessa, and Maui. Jade and Maui do doubles BTW.
Also had good luck over at Marquee, ask for Mami Janet to introduce you to EJ and Chie, and shout out to Marj for the great accu-pressure massage.
Well that ended up being kind of a bust. The driver I was connected with doesn't seem to have much knowledge of the area. He took me to a place called Aaliyah not too far from the hotel, a KTV bar. It was obnoxiously loud and crowded with locals, the girls were trotted out in front of me and I picked a very good looking one in a little pink dress. Had a couple of drinks myself and bought her two lady drinks for a pittance, she seemed to have the personality of a desk lamp though. Complained about perverts asking her to go back to the hotel, I wasn't feeling staying at the place or chatting with her any further so we tabbed out and left, drinks for me, her her and then two for my driver ended up being just shy of a 1000 pesos. After that he took me to a place called Starfleet, about 20 minutes north of us, this seemed to be a fishbowl place? I think I've seen it described. Several rooms with 20 or so girls in each. I picked one and paid the room fee of 2300. We did this weird shower thing that I wasn't a fan of where she lathered up with soap and rubbed herself all over me as I lay face down on this plastic mattress. She then whips out the tiniest condom I've ever seen and tries to put it on me, after some back and forth it seems clear I'm only getting in her with a condom. I'm pretty annoyed so I just have her finish me with a HJ, she has the audacity to ask for tip too. I paid her 2300, made a point of telling her no tip, and bounced back to the hotel.
So now I don't know, kind of dejected and not sure I want to go out again with this driver as he doesn't have good knowledge or contacts in this area. It's 5:20 on a Sunday, was thinking about maybe taking a grab myself up to lips but I don't know if I'm motivated at this point and isn't it supposed to be dead on Sundays?
GrandeLoad
06-25-24, 05:25
I was there a few weeks ago and I'm still putting together some reports I'll post later, but it seems you need immediate suggestions LOL.
Try Manila Courtesans, specifically Jade, Daisy, Vanessa, and Maui. Jade and Maui do doubles BTW.
Also had good luck over at Marquee, ask for Mami Janet to introduce you to EJ and Chie, and shout out to Marj for the great accu-pressure massage.Right on really appreciate it man, I'll check those out!
Right on really appreciate it man, I'll check those out!Sorry to hear about the unsuccessful driver, was really hoping it would work out so we all had a new avenue to pursue. Never really ventured into casas, been invited to go by Filipino colleagues but try to keep slit between work and those sort of social activities.
Get yourself to Lips, Plan be and Bottoms. Sure you'll find something of interest in those three places, with local ST hotels if they can't be convinced by travel distance to your place.
IndianGenie
06-25-24, 21:37
Hi!
I am making a trip down to Makati mid-July - 14-20th. Would love to catch up with fellow mongers who are likely to be around at the same time. Folks interested in tag-teaming for GBs / orgies. Let's connect. .
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Try Manila Courtesans, specifically Jade, Daisy, Vanessa, and Maui. Jade and Maui do doubles BTW.
Most of the girls on the internet ads post their BEST photos, often a few years ago before they got chubby. And they turn 45 degrees so you do not see their hips are like 2 battleships wide! If they are small bosomed they have photos from the back or on their stomach, so you do not see their deficit areas. And many photos are air-brushed and touched up to cover bad acne or facial blemishes and birthmarks. So when you get them to your hotel you are surprised they are 20 pounds heavier and disappointing in many other ways, not smiling or happy-peppy all the time, tired, etc. Some have hygiene issues, are getting over their periods but do not want you to know, and are grouchy as a result. Many factors go into being a woman, I am sure few of you have experienced them.
GrandeLoad
06-30-24, 08:57
Most of the girls on the internet ads post their BEST photos, often a few years ago before they got chubby. And they turn 45 degrees so you do not see their hips are like 2 battleships wide! If they are small bosomed they have photos from the back or on their stomach, so you do not see their deficit areas. And many photos are air-brushed and touched up to cover bad acne or facial blemishes and birthmarks. So when you get them to your hotel you are surprised they are 20 pounds heavier and disappointing in many other ways, not smiling or happy-peppy all the time, tired, etc. Some have hygiene issues, are getting over their periods but do not want you to know, and are grouchy as a result. Many factors go into being a woman, I am sure few of you have experienced them.Oh this is all true, but Jade looked exactly like her pics and was very hot in person. Just required a condom and was rather mechanical, if at least enthusiastic. 5 k all in wasn't bad, but I'm lining up some hotties off Pinalove that will do everything and let me film it for 3 k, just takes some effort. Didn't bother going up to the bars, that's just more hassle and too expensive for what I need.
Most of the girls on the internet ads post their BEST photos, True but that can hardly come as a surprise. Any normal human being is going to post their most attractive photos. As I've said before, I always allow a 2/10 drop in hotness between reality and photos.
Having said that, I've had surprises both ways. A few times I've unwrapped a Plain Jane to find a spectator body underneath and part timers' attitudes can be far better than bar girls.
If guys don't want to take the risk, then there is a lot to be said for bar hopping where you can see what you are getting and discuss your needs before agreeing to leave. As you said, that can come at a substantial price premium too.
Enjoy. G.
WestCoast1
07-31-24, 10:03
Having said that, I've had surprises both ways. A few times I've unwrapped a Plain Jane to find a spectator body underneath and part timers' attitudes can be far better than bar girls.
If guys don't want to take the risk, then there is a lot to be said for bar hopping where you can see what you are getting and discuss your needs before agreeing to leave. As you said, that can come at a substantial price premium too.A full month since the last post in the Makati thread. Much like AC, Phils as a mongering destination appears to have dwindled post-covid. Looks like more poon for the expats here (as if lack of poon is a problem around here).
With that in mind, a province girl that I don't get to see enough due to her location. But when I'm in the city I like to fly her up for a couple of nights. Young twiglet with a cute face and a lovely ass. The things we put up with here.
Having said that, I've had surprises both ways. A few times I've unwrapped a Plain Jane to find a spectator body underneath and part timers' attitudes can be far better than bar girls..Great point G.
I've unwrapped quite a few that have been amazing in the sack. They know how to operate, offer a great service and my 'contacts' are more personable than the bar girls. I compensate them appropriately (without having to pay bar fines. IE: their pimps / employers and expensive lady drinks) and that way they have return custom and I have everything lined up in advance with a girl I know and the trust is mutual.
Whilst I avoid the typical girly bars for the above reasons, I don't pick up any slapper off the street or waste my time on dating sites. It's a matter of thinking outside 'the box' and making connections by other means.
In my case, getting recommendations from locals and hotel staff has been the way to go. Just my experience. Phil.
.. I compensate them appropriately (without having to pay bar fines. IE: their pimps / employers and expensive lady drinks) ...I'm an unrepentant cheap Charlie so not having to pay barfines, lady drinks etc allows me to be more generous to the girls while actually reducing my overall cost and they certainly appreciate retaining 100% of theor earnings.
It's a win win.
G.
Did you pay cash or have Grab fixed the app to allow direct debit from a foreign CCard?
I'm looking forward to a report on Casas. I don't think we have had info on a white boy visiting these for a decade.
Go forth and keep us informed 😊.
Enjoy. G.Hi G, I went to one a coupla months ago but don't ask me how I got there. Didn't see anything that tickled my fancy.
I'm an unrepentant cheap Charlie so not having to pay barfines, lady drinks etc allows me to be more generous to the girls while actually reducing my overall cost and they certainly appreciate retaining 100% of theor earnings.
It's a win win.
G.Copy that, G. BTW did you see any busty ones at ABC in AC? Cheers!
A new bar has opened on Durban, directly below Filling Station. It is called Fire House, don't let the paintings on the outside fool you, it is not a gay bar like Club One.
Will definitely be back another time to explore this one properly, only really went in as it was raining so hard last night that needed somewhere to break up walks between bars. Had the best-looking girl I saw all night, looks like it may be a naughty bar, so will try this one later in evening next time. With way it is fitted out in black with red sofas I suspect this is from same owners as Maison and Club One, asked a Maison girl if she knew about it, but she did not.
The 5 k I mentioned was the prenegotiated tip, so what I'm essentially saying is 5 k equates to ST only if negotiated before 1 am, as they 'have' to go back to bar. I'd not heard of this clause before in negotiations.Just planning my next Manila trip for next month. Is this stupid before 1 am BF = ST only rule still in place? I was not aware of this on my last trip about a year ago and wondered why almost all girls insisted to get back to the bar at 3-4 am although quite a few totally wasted could barely walk. This has never happened pre-covid.
Are the bars now busy longer due to ST girls coming back to the bar? Pre-Covid most bars emptied out around 11-12 pm already.
Well here's a bit of a report for you as I'm back in the Phils on some business.
The initial part is something more suited to the 'Stupid Shit In The Philippines' thread _ What is it with entering Manila?
Every time there's not a single question asked by immigration or customs. After getting your passport stamped, you grab your bags and next thing you know, you're out in the carpark getting swamped by people chanting "Taxi Sir?
There must be a lot of shit coming into this country, however it's always been a fast process dealing with immigration and customs, so no complaints here. It's strange that a country that's infatuated with confiscating every cigarette lighter at every port is so relaxed about international arrivals and not worrying about the other shit they could bring in. And whatever happens to all those confiscated lighters?
Anyway, I made it to the usual stop of the City Garden in Makati in about half an hour and freshened up a bit. There was no intention of hitting P. Burgos.
The reason for this is, when I was staying at the same hotel six months ago, I asked the security guys to recommend a girl and basically deliver her to my room. Now, money's not really an issue for me, but I wanted to bypass the obscene lady drinks prices on a Saturday afternoon back then when there were numerous girls floating about with no customers. They basically all swamp you. So at the time, I just reached out for help with the hotel staff and they delivered.
And that's how I met Ashley via hotel security. We've kept in touch since and I organized for her to meet me at City Garden a few hours after I checked in yesterday.
Sure, she's a little bit chubby compared to most bar girls, but man, does she know how to please. After tipping the security guard who checked her in at the desk 200 p, she was in the room. There wasn't a lot of conversation before she was adamant we showered together (usually you pick up on certain aspects of these situations where you think they're just rushing you through to do a fuck and run. Not the case).
Then it was a matter of a BBBJ to get things going. I've been around for a while and that was up there with the best.
After a little recovery time, she was on top of me insisting a condom was used (I didn't object, but I couldn't help thinking, " She's just swallowed me, yet now she want's protection? Obviously, she doesn't want kids.).
After my second recovery, she insisted on doggie with me squeezing her nipples from behind at the same time. Her pussy just gripped me so tight when I did it, it was pretty special.
After removing the second condom she 'cleaned me up' with her tongue and asked me to go down on her.
Then she insisted on an another shower before a kiss goodnight.
Security called my room not long after she left to make sure everything was okay and 'the girl had not taken anything'.
After an international flight, I felt like I'd run a marathon. Welcome back to the Phils!
So my advice is, if you've previously got yourself a good contact, or end up with an amazing girl, keep in touch with them. Ashley and I keep in touch via WhatsApp. And it's great to know you have an amazing girl lined up in advance without having to chase. And you'll also have a good freelancer you can trust and all the cash basically goes to her.
My encounter with Ashley set me back 2000 p _ Pretty amazing value considering I didn't have to pay bar fines or LD. On the other hand, she knows she's guaranteed at least that every time I see her. And through the day she works in a department store that will battle to pay her that amount as a fraction of her wage. Everyone seems a winner.
Just my experience _ Phil.
P.S. Off to Sabang next for some work, so I'll post on the 'other places' thread.
Locamotive
08-18-24, 21:53
Well here's a bit of a report for you as I'm back in the Phils on some business.
The initial part is something more suited to the 'Stupid Shit In The Philippines' thread _ What is it with entering Manila?
Every time there's not a single question asked by immigration or customs. After getting your passport stamped, you grab your bags and next thing you know, you're out in the carpark getting swamped by people chanting "Taxi Sir?
There must be a lot of shit coming into this country, however it's always been a fast process dealing with immigration and customs, so no complaints here. It's strange that a country that's infatuated with confiscating every cigarette lighter at every port is so relaxed about international arrivals and not worrying about the other shit they could bring in. And whatever happens to all those confiscated lighters?
Anyway, I made it to the usual stop of the City Garden in Makati in about half an hour and freshened up a bit. There was no intention of hitting P. Burgos.
The reason for this is, when I was staying at the same hotel six months ago, I asked the security guys to recommend a girl and basically deliver her to my room. Now, money's not really an issue for me, but I wanted to bypass the obscene lady drinks prices on a Saturday afternoon back then when there were numerous girls floating about with no customers. They basically all swamp you. So at the time, I just reached out for help with the hotel staff and they delivered.
And that's how I met Ashley via hotel security. We've kept in touch since and I organized for her to meet me at City Garden a few hours after I checked in yesterday.
Sure, she's a little bit chubby compared to most bar girls, but man, does she know how to please. After tipping the security guard who checked her in at the desk 200 p, she was in the room. There wasn't a lot of conversation before she was adamant we showered together (usually you pick up on certain aspects of these situations where you think they're just rushing you through to do a fuck and run. Not the case).
Then it was a matter of a BBBJ to get things going. I've been around for a while and that was up there with the best.
After a little recovery time, she was on top of me insisting a condom was used (I didn't object, but I couldn't help thinking, " She's just swallowed me, yet now she want's protection? Obviously, she doesn't want kids.).
After my second recovery, she insisted on doggie with me squeezing her nipples from behind at the same time. Her pussy just gripped me so tight when I did it, it was pretty special.
After removing the second condom she 'cleaned me up' with her tongue and asked me to go down on her.
Then she insisted on an another shower before a kiss goodnight.
Security called my room not long after she left to make sure everything was okay and 'the girl had not taken anything'.
After an international flight, I felt like I'd run a marathon. Welcome back to the Phils!
So my advice is, if you've previously got yourself a good contact, or end up with an amazing girl, keep in touch with them. Ashley and I keep in touch via WhatsApp. And it's great to know you have an amazing girl lined up in advance without having to chase. And you'll also have a good freelancer you can trust and all the cash basically goes to her.
My encounter with Ashley set me back 2000 p _ Pretty amazing value considering I didn't have to pay bar fines or LD. On the other hand, she knows she's guaranteed at least that every time I see her. And through the day she works in a department store that will battle to pay her that amount as a fraction of her wage. Everyone seems a winner.
Just my experience _ Phil.
P.S. Off to Sabang next for some work, so I'll post on the 'other places' thread.Yep allot of us practiced this same strategy. Keep a few regulars lined up so you can hit the ground running. I usually keep 3 or 4 as they sometimes drop off. Lost two recently as they were snatched up by other foreigner's retired there and put in condos with full support. Congratulation's to them, girls don't want to barfine or freelance forever. When I retire there Ill probably do the same and pull one out of someone else's rotation. For now, just playing the field, fun fun and more fun.
Just planning my next Manila trip for next month. Is this stupid before 1 am BF = ST only rule still in place? I was not aware of this on my last trip about a year ago and wondered why almost all girls insisted to get back to the bar at 3-4 am although quite a few totally wasted could barely walk. This has never happened pre-covid.
Are the bars now busy longer due to ST girls coming back to the bar? Pre-Covid most bars emptied out around 11-12 pm already.Not sure what you mean to be honest. I didn't say if you LT before 1:00 am it's no longer LT, but if you short time before 1:00 am, then they have to go back to bar. So some girls will ask you to wait still, so they can ST then go home. LT is a lot more than ST, depending on girl. ST they will request 5-7 k in most bars for good lookers, but Fyre starts at around 10 k ST.
Not sure what you mean to be honest. I didn't say if you LT before 1:00 am it's no longer LT, but if you short time before 1:00 am, then they have to go back to bar. So some girls will ask you to wait still, so they can ST then go home. LT is a lot more than ST, depending on girl. ST they will request 5-7 k in most bars for good lookers, but Fyre starts at around 10 k ST.Ah ok misunderstanding. I thought nowadays before 1 am girls are not supposed to do LT. Is the BF amount for LT / ST the same? Seems the Pre-covid times BF + 5 k for LT are over then.
MonkeyBlaster
08-21-24, 03:03
I've seen this condom discussion pop up a few times. Condom is not even a word there. Basically I've never been refused BB in Philippines, Vietnam or Thailand, certainly not in the Philippines. If you look and smell clean and dick looks normal you will be fine. Been coming to Philippines over a decade, never used a condom. Be cautious though with girls outside of bars as no medical checks. Granted the checks are not western quality, but its something. Way back 15 years or so when I started there Greenbelt was the thing and picked up many a girl there, until some buddies caught STD's. From then on I've used bars only with no issues. I love how when I say to them, honey your probably taking a risk doing BB all the time. These are my regulars, oh honey I only do BB with you, never with guys I don't know. Hehehe. Yeah but how many guys do you know. None are using them, the hardcore pros maybe, but 99% of them no.Just curious as to your thoughts on Vietnam. The girls have a different look I like there. I would love to be with some Japanese. But it appears not as easy as other venues. Thanks.
Ah ok misunderstanding. I thought nowadays before 1 am girls are not supposed to do LT. Is the BF amount for LT / ST the same? Seems the Pre-covid times BF + 5 k for LT are over then.I don't really bar fine very much, other options available for those of us living in Philippines, including the cheeky meet before work.
However, I BF'd a girl who had been on my radar for a while though last month from Plan be, while I had opportunity to do so. It was very clearly stated that 5 k is ST, LT price was given too, but I was only interested in ST so didn't really listen. I didn't specifically say I wanted ST until after both were offered, but then got a "sure you don't want to take her all night sir" response.
Every place I've been requested to fine, discussion is always started with ST price being 5 K (or thereabouts) and LT being higher. I go to Burgos for drinks and a perve, an in-bar BJ (where available), and to get numbers for later. BFing from Burgos is simply not value for money for my situation, though I completely understand those that are on holiday and time limited, and it is potentially best option for them.
Yep allot of us practiced this same strategy. Keep a few regulars lined up so you can hit the ground running. I usually keep 3 or 4 as they sometimes drop off. Lost two recently as they were snatched up by other foreigner's retired there and put in condos with full support. Congratulation's to them, girls don't want to barfine or freelance forever. When I retire there Ill probably do the same and pull one out of someone else's rotation. For now, just playing the field, fun fun and more fun.Great call Locamotive.
I have about 7 or 8 contacts currently and in different areas.
Two are 'missing' at the moment as they've gone back to the province and internet / wifi connections are shit.
There's always a back-up plan in place with the more contacts you gain along the way.
_Phil.
Spent a few nights on burgos street bars. For some reason, I find the bars are losing their charm (atleast for me). I am finding more and more older girls out there now. Lips has lots of girls but not much worthy IMHO. I see a few nice girls as FLs. Every bar has probably less than a few decent girls whom you may want to hang out with. Cost of lady drinks are going up. Some prices that I could not fathom: SML at 450 at Iron horse; SML at 390 at firehose; SML at 1170 at Bottoms. These are just insane. When you get one good girl, a few walk over and kind of force you to buy. The prices quickly spiral out of control. Kojax and bottoms had a good vibe when I was there. Another observation -- but for a few girls, many of them had kids. Girls who did not have kids, were trying to support them for college. Octopus on weekends had a good vibe and crowded. Cubana Cafe was not the same I have heard here. I still found bars like Secret door, Al Tarboush having good FLs who hang out. Secret door had many girls after 2 AM.
Spent a few nights on burgos street bars. For some reason, I find the bars are losing their charm (atleast for me). I am finding more and more older girls out there now. Lips has lots of girls but not much worthy IMHO. I see a few nice girls as FLs. Every bar has probably less than a few decent girls whom you may want to hang out with. Cost of lady drinks are going up. Some prices that I could not fathom: SML at 450 at Iron horse; SML at 390 at firehose; SML at 1170 at Bottoms. These are just insane. When you get one good girl, a few walk over and kind of force you to buy. The prices quickly spiral out of control. Kojax and bottoms had a good vibe when I was there. Another observation -- but for a few girls, many of them had kids. Girls who did not have kids, were trying to support them for college. Octopus on weekends had a good vibe and crowded. Cubana Cafe was not the same I have heard here. I still found bars like Secret door, Al Tarboush having good FLs who hang out. Secret door had many girls after 2 AM.What about Kojax? When I visited the PI (was before COVID) that joint had just about the hottest collection of Asian girls under one roof that I had ever seen in my life! And I'm not really into Asian girls, so that's something coming from me LOL! Plan be was also good.
Spent a few nights on burgos street bars. For some reason, I find the bars are losing their charm (atleast for me). I am finding more and more older girls out there now. Lips has lots of girls but not much worthy IMHO. I see a few nice girls as FLs. Every bar has probably less than a few decent girls whom you may want to hang out with. Cost of lady drinks are going up. Some prices that I could not fathom: SML at 450 at Iron horse; SML at 390 at firehose; SML at 1170 at Bottoms. These are just insane. When you get one good girl, a few walk over and kind of force you to buy. The prices quickly spiral out of control. Kojax and bottoms had a good vibe when I was there. Another observation -- but for a few girls, many of them had kids. Girls who did not have kids, were trying to support them for college. Octopus on weekends had a good vibe and crowded. Cubana Cafe was not the same I have heard here. I still found bars like Secret door, Al Tarboush having good FLs who hang out. Secret door had many girls after 2 AM.Little confused by your post. What currency are you quoting for SMLs? If SMLs are being bought for you, they are 120-160 PHP depending on bar, and 300 PHP (I think) in Plan be, as Plan be has a one price drink model. LDs are around 450 PHP in all bars, unless you are buying her a SML, then it is around 800 PHP. Beer being twice the price of a normal LD is fine, as it will take ger 3-4 times as long to drink it.
No one forces you to buy drinks, they may try and beg / annoy you into it, but just say no and tell them to leave you alone. They will get the hint. If you start buying other girls drinks than the one you are with, don't blame more girls for thinking you are a sucker and trying to get their share too.
What about Kojax? When I visited the PI (was before COVID) that joint had just about the hottest collection of Asian girls under one roof that I had ever seen in my life! And I'm not really into Asian girls, so that's something coming from me LOL! Plan be was also good.Kojax is gone, replaced by a bar called Lips. Plan be is in same location and now called Plan be / Kojax. Don't believe it actually has anything to do with old Kojax, they just stole the name.
Lips has the most girls and consequently has most 7/8's, proportionally still high, don't really have any fuglies in there.
Plan be / Kojax has highest percentage of 7/8's, some very good looking women in there usually.
Every bar has some nice looking women generally, some more than others. I am into Asian girls though so viewpoint may be more screwed than yours would be.
Kojax is gone, replaced by a bar called Lips. Plan be is in same location and now called Plan be / Kojax. Don't believe it actually has anything to do with old Kojax, they just stole the name.I heard way back when that Kojax and Plan be were owned by the same people. Don't know if it was true or not, but if so then maybe it wasn't an outright "steal".
What about Kojax? When I visited the PI (was before COVID) that joint had just about the hottest collection of Asian girls under one roof that I had ever seen in my life! And I'm not really into Asian girls, so that's something coming from me LOL! Plan be was also good.I did make a mention of Kojax having a good vibe. There were enough young girls and many of them were moms. I am also realizing that our reports and experiences are different at various times of the year as folks move around. If a mama moves she moves a whole bunch of girls to other bars. It seems to be a dynamic place from what I see.
Anyone hitting Burgos tonight, Monday 09/09?
PM me if you would like to meet over a beer and trade lies.
Only in town one night so it would be bad manners for me not to swing by.
Cheers. G.
I did make a mention of Kojax having a good vibe. There were enough young girls and many of them were moms. I am also realizing that our reports and experiences are different at various times of the year as folks move around. If a mama moves she moves a whole bunch of girls to other bars. It seems to be a dynamic place from what I see.Due to the time difference between your visits, you are not reviewing same bars. They are not even on the same streets anymore. .
Banana Boi
09-09-24, 16:51
PM me if you would like to meet over a beer and trade lies.Trade lies! Too funny.
Sometimes my stupidity amazes even me!
Arrived at the Citadel Inn early afternoon. Its right on Burgos. You literally kick bakla out of the way to get to the entrance. Good points are it's cheap, it's cheap and it's cheap. The bad is that the rooms are absolute dumps and make $20 seem over priced. I've never stayed there before and probably won't again. Luckily it's only a one night transit stop over.
The plan was to wait till dark and do a crawl along the strip to have a couple of beers, see what has changed and, admire the sights.
Well, that didn't last long.
The wait proved too long, I was bored, opened Pina Love to waste some time and came across a luscious little creature. All blood was diverted to the little head and logic went out of the window. 8 k ST was bargained down to 4 k all night with my stipulation that a breakfast fuck must be included. A Grab is ordered and she's waaay the fuck out in Angono. What sort of idiot pays 800 peso to freight a hooker into Burgos? Talk about tea to China. Grab arrives and joining the car and girl is amazingly successful. She's on the way. 10 minutes into the journey, I get a Grab message that I've been charged in full and the journey's over. I'm thinking that it's some new scam where girls fake a long taxi ride, go nowhere and split the fee with the driver. But no, I get a message from her that she's mobile and on the way. Repeated 'buy me load' and 'I'm hungry' messages have me thinking the worst about the attitude that I'm going to get when she arrives. I'm not paying for a night on the town around Poblacion, no matter how good she looks. Again, I was wrong. 80 lb of chatter box arrives. She jumps on Grab Food and blows the budget on well over $8 of bagged toxic waste and a Coke. Turns out she's not the hardened hoe I was expecting: a 21 yo cutie working her way through 2nd year nursing with no cash, 10 siblings at home and dad bailed years ago.
Killer little body. 5 foot flat if lucky, drum tight, a cute smile and proportionally perfect, more than a handful, CC cups.
Lights off for the deed and all's good. We'll sort of. It's a murder scene with blood everywhere!! Did she know beforehand? Probably. Is it worth getting angry over? Probably not. Resigned myself to no breakfast, she's out the door back home and I'm washing sheets at 4 am.
So, a night in Makati didn't exactly go to plan but I've still got a shot away smiling.
Enjoy. G.
So, a night in Makati didn't exactly go to plan but I've still got a shot away smiling.
The things we do to just get some pussy, G! E. g. , you know I live near Duma but I'm importing a busty Japanese chick from some little isle east of Luzon to the tune of 10 K later today. Met her on FC. She's spending three days with me so I hope to get my money's worth! This has nothing to do with Makati so the thread Nazis will have something to write about! Cheers!
WestCoast1
09-10-24, 00:22
Sometimes my stupidity amazes even me!
Arrived at the Citadel Inn early afternoon. Its right on Burgos. You literally kick bakla out of the way to get to the entrance. Good points are it's cheap, it's cheap and it's cheap. The bad is that the rooms are absolute dumps and make $20 seem over priced. I've never stayed there before and probably won't again. Luckily it's only a one night transit stop over.
SNIP
Killer little body. 5 foot flat if lucky, drum tight, a cute smile and proportionally perfect, more than a handful, CC cups.
Lights off for the deed and all's good. We'll sort of. It's a murder scene with blood everywhere!! Did she know beforehand? Probably. Is it worth getting angry over? Probably not. Resigned myself to no breakfast, she's out the door back home and I'm washing sheets at 4 am.
So, a night in Makati didn't exactly go to plan but I've still got a shot away smiling.Great story. Getting the first shot in after a long absence is important, you think better afterwards.
Stayed at Citadel a number of times. Lesson learned. Nearby Red Planet better choice for 1-2-nighters. Small rooms, but always clean, and a wall mirror for f*cklet eye-candy.
Great story. Getting the first shot in after a long absence is important, you think better afterwards..I'm having breakfast at Terminal 4 now. Trust me, it's not the same. 😥.
G.
Sometimes my stupidity amazes even me!
Arrived at the Citadel Inn early afternoon. Its right on Burgos. You literally kick bakla out of the way to get to the entrance. Good points are it's cheap, it's cheap and it's cheap. The bad is that the rooms are absolute dumps and make $20 seem over priced. I've never stayed there before and probably won't again. Luckily it's only a one night transit stop over.
The plan was to wait till dark and do a crawl along the strip to have a couple of beers, see what has changed and, admire the sights.
Well, that didn't last long.
The wait proved too long, I was bored, opened Pina Love to waste some time and came across a luscious little creature. All blood was diverted to the little head and logic went out of the window. 8 k ST was bargained down to 4 k all night with my stipulation that a breakfast fuck must be included. A Grab is ordered and she's waaay the fuck out in Angono. What sort of idiot pays 800 peso to freight a hooker into Burgos? Talk about tea to China. Grab arrives and joining the car and girl is amazingly successful. She's on the way. 10 minutes into the journey, I get a Grab message that I've been charged in full and the journey's over. I'm thinking that it's some new scam where girls fake a long taxi ride, go nowhere and split the fee with the driver. But no, I get a message from her that she's mobile and on the way. Repeated 'buy me load' and 'I'm hungry' messages have me thinking the worst about the attitude that I'm going to get when she arrives. I'm not paying for a night on the town around Poblacion, no matter how good she looks. Again, I was wrong. 80 lb of chatter box arrives. She jumps on Grab Food and blows the budget on well over $8 of bagged toxic waste and a Coke. Turns out she's not the hardened hoe I was expecting: a 21 yo cutie working her way through 2nd year nursing with no cash, 10 siblings at home and dad bailed years ago.
Killer little body. 5 foot flat if lucky, drum tight, a cute smile and proportionally perfect, more than a handful, CC cups.
Lights off for the deed and all's good. We'll sort of. It's a murder scene with blood everywhere!! Did she know beforehand? Probably. Is it worth getting angry over? Probably not. Resigned myself to no breakfast, she's out the door back home and I'm washing sheets at 4 am.
So, a night in Makati didn't exactly go to plan but I've still got a shot away smiling.
Enjoy. G.Never let a little ketchup keep you from enjoying your meal. In for a dime, you're in for a dollar. And you know she won't get pregnant hahaha.
Has anyone been to Dandasha that is located beside The Filling Station?
How are the girls there?
Any luck taking a girl from there back to the hotel?
Any chance of getting some action within premises (read: private booth)?
WestCoast1
09-15-24, 02:49
The little birdie flew into my ear last night (Saturday), and informed me that recently Neon Nights gogo bar was raided and closed. There is a proclamation on the door that says under-aged person (s) were rescued. The building remains closed. Also Oculto bar was closed last night. The birdie made a later pass down Burgos / Durban at 11 pm and noted less than 15 ladies + bakla on the streets. Slow Saturday evening.
WestCoast1
09-15-24, 07:49
The little birdie flew into my ear last night (Saturday), and informed me that recently Neon Nights gogo bar was raided and closed. There is a proclamation on the door that says under-aged person (s) were rescued. The building remains closed. Also Oculto bar was closed last night. The birdie made a later pass down Burgos / Durban at 11 pm and noted less than 15 ladies + bakla on the streets. Slow Saturday evening.Fyre bar, next door to Neon Nights, also has posted signs on the door, closed down due to trafficking. In my previous post, that meant that there were 15 or fewer total providers in the street.
WestCoast1
09-15-24, 23:39
Has anyone been to Dandasha that is located beside The Filling Station?Dandasha no longer exists. A new bar is there now, called Firehouse. I think someone did a report here on Firehouse a few weeks ago. You might want to RTTF.
Dandasha no longer exists. A new bar is there now, called Firehouse. I think someone did a report here on Firehouse a few weeks ago. You might want to RTTF.Oh, I see. Thanks for the update. I visited that place in 2022. Some really pretty girls there. Was short of time so just had a quick beer and left. Was looking forward to visiting again. But I guess I will need to look for other options on the stretch.
Lights off for the deed and all's good. We'll sort of. It's a murder scene with blood everywhere!! Did she know beforehand? Probably. Is it worth getting angry over? Probably not. Resigned myself to no breakfast, she's out the door back home and I'm washing sheets at 4 am.
So, a night in Makati didn't exactly go to plan but I've still got a shot away smiling.
Enjoy. G.Hey G,
I had the 'Shower Scene From Psycho' experience with one of my contacts a few weeks ago. Thankfully there were no sheets to wash.
And yes, she knew. They're not going to knock back 2000 p just because the monthly timing doesn't suit.
Excellent sex I must say _ Phil.
And yes, she knew. They're not going to knock back 2000 p just because the monthly timing doesn't suit.
Excellent sex I must say _ Phil.With notice there are some tablets that they can take. Apparently it stops the discharge dead in a couple of hours. I'm guessing it's some pretty wild shit.
Without notice, or access to the above, they can use sponges, I've heard stories of friends being called to fish out a lost sponge more than once.
Cheers. G.
With notice there are some tablets that they can take. Apparently it stops the discharge dead in a couple of hours. I'm guessing it's some pretty wild shit.
Without notice, or access to the above, they can use sponges, I've heard stories of friends being called to fish out a lost sponge more than once.
Cheers. G.Thanks G,
She did mention some tablets but that was after the deed was done.
Wild shit indeed!
Sorry to be blunt, but for me a good fuck is a good fuck and you deal with the consequences later.
And it's better than the old excuse they bring up after a few days that the monthly's coming.
It's all down to experience. I'll 'reward' you if you 'reward' me.
_ Phil.
WestCoast1
09-17-24, 00:33
Dandasha no longer exists. A new bar is there now, called Firehouse. I think someone did a report here on Firehouse a few weeks ago. You might want to RTTF.Litttle birdie update: Firehouse bar has waitresses wearing a cute uniform, and fireman hats. The birdie says that I might need to get in there soon, scope the place out, and file a report.
Litttle birdie update: Firehouse bar has waitresses wearing a cute uniform, and fireman hats. The birdie says that I might need to get in there soon, scope the place out, and file a report.Just adding on. I just got to know (from another group / website) that the dandasha crowd / ladies have been transferred to another Arabic themed club / bar along the stretch. Looking forward to visiting that place soon. Hopefully I'll get some action onsite or back in a nearby hotel.
Litttle birdie update: Firehouse bar has waitresses wearing a cute uniform, and fireman hats. The birdie says that I might need to get in there soon, scope the place out, and file a report.They have these interesting outfits. None of the girls clicked for me. Wish you luck.
Fyre bar, next door to Neon Nights, also has posted signs on the door, closed down due to trafficking. In my previous post, that meant that there were 15 or fewer total providers in the street.I can attest. Yes, and many of the girls (and mamasans) have moved to other places from these bars.
Arrived at the Citadel Inn early afternoon. Its right on Burgos. You literally kick bakla out of the way to get to the entrance. Good points are it's cheap, it's cheap and it's cheap. The bad is that the rooms are absolute dumps and make $20 seem over priced. I've never stayed there before and probably won't again. Luckily it's only a one night transit stop over.
The Citadel Inn was the first place at which I stayed in Makati, some 20 years ago. I never went back either, but it really wasn't that bad, just a very small room.
I can attest. Yes, and many of the girls (and mamasans) have moved to other places from these bars.I have a friend who was a pole dancer in Fyre, and on August 16th she told me about the raid which was precipitated by some recently terminated and disgruntled ex-employees, security guards I believe. According to my friend, 59 girls were transported and detained at a facility in Quezon City (I assume it was Camp Crame), and my friend was really freaked out by the experience. Not only is she working somewhere else, she left the country and now is working in Singapore.
WestCoast1
09-19-24, 12:18
The Citadel Inn was the first place at which I stayed in Makati, some 20 years ago. I never went back either, but it really wasn't that bad, just a very small room.My God, Doc, if this is your maid, can you show us your GF? Asking for a friend :-)
I've had some good sessions in Abacca in Makati, but the latest visit was a downer. I had made a 2:30 pm appointment. Arrived on time, but had to wait in the reception for 10 minutes before anyone appeared. After another 10 minutes she showed me to one of the cubicles. Waited there for another 15 minutes like an idiot before she came back and told me that there would be another 30 minutes before the massage could begin. Of course I got my money back and got the hell out of there. Will not return.
WestCoast1
09-30-24, 02:29
The birdie is back and has sent a pic. Closed about 2 weeks ago is Luffy's Billiards House and resto / bar. Clean place, 7 or so pool tables, good food and grog. Went there several times, will miss it. Located next door to Herald Hotel on Polaris St (across the street from the BelAir Soho).
I've had some good sessions in Abacca in Makati, but the latest visit was a downer. I had made a 2:30 pm appointment. Arrived on time, but had to wait in the reception for 10 minutes before anyone appeared. After another 10 minutes she showed me to one of the cubicles. Waited there for another 15 minutes like an idiot before she came back and told me that there would be another 30 minutes before the massage could begin. Of course I got my money back and got the hell out of there. Will not return.Sad to hear, that as my go to place when I lived in Manila. Now in Cebu and have not been since before pandemic. Booked a long layover in Manila last year just so I could return, but PAL was so late I barely made my flight and had originally scheduled 10 hours in Manila.
Sad to hear, that as my go to place when I lived in Manila. Now in Cebu and have not been since before pandemic. Booked a long layover in Manila last year just so I could return, but PAL was so late I barely made my flight and had originally scheduled 10 hours in Manila.PAL = Plane Always Late 😂128514;128514;.
The birdie is back and has sent a pic. Closed about 2 weeks ago is Luffy's Billiards House and resto / bar. Clean place, 7 or so pool tables, good food and grog. Went there several times, will miss it. Located next door to Herald Hotel on Polaris St (across the street from the BelAir Soho).AAHH craps. I would go there to sharpen my game. The tables there were legit pocket size. Had many friendly challenges from local players although they had their own cue and I used the house ones which were at a disadvantage. Played and partnered with the older half brother of the "magician". He'd come looking for me late nights and always left with at least 1 K happy.
WestCoast1
10-02-24, 05:55
In addition to Fyre and Neon Nights, Oculto (formerly WowWow bar) on Burgos also remains closed. There is no sign on the door indicating any government shutdown issues.
I've had some good sessions in Abacca in Makati, but the latest visit was a downer. I had made a 2:30 pm appointment. Arrived on time, but had to wait in the reception for 10 minutes before anyone appeared. After another 10 minutes she showed me to one of the cubicles. Waited there for another 15 minutes like an idiot before she came back and told me that there would be another 30 minutes before the massage could begin. Of course I got my money back and got the hell out of there. Will not return.I enjoyed the 90 minutes session few times. I felt that place always busy at the evening time. I visited mostly afternoon and call them before going. Don't know the present scene. Do they have a branch in AC? Asked about in AC forum few years back.
My God, Doc, if this is your maid, can you show us your GF? Asking for a friend :-)So you liked that one did you Westy? Yeah, I don't blame you. She was petite and tight, complained a bit but not much once she got into it. But, my man, that was 2003, and I took her out from the old Go, Go Bananas bar that was on the corner of Kalayaan and P Burgos.
With notice there are some tablets that they can take. Apparently it stops the discharge dead in a couple of hours. I'm guessing it's some pretty wild shit.
Without notice, or access to the above, they can use sponges, I've heard stories of friends being called to fish out a lost sponge more than once.
Cheers. G.The old Dutch Cap used to be the favourite with hookers working through their period. It acts as a seal and so nothing comes out.
WestCoast1
10-09-24, 23:53
Not sure if this got posted before. The little birdie emailed me this picture. He was flying down Burgos street one morning and snapped this pic at Fyre bar. The notice mentions anti-trafficking and revenue code violations. Both Fyre and Neon Nights remain closed for approximately 2 months, according to the birdie. Thank goodness he had his camera.
WestCoast1
10-10-24, 10:06
In addition, the birdie has discovered generic vitamin V, found very recently at the Mercury Drug store on Makati Ave, just off the corner of Gen Luna St in Makati. Just across the street from Wendy's, Starbucks, and the Cebuana outlet (not to be confused by the Mercury on Makati Ave a few blocks closer to Burgos and the McDo at Jupiter St.).
Don't be a limp biskit; get to the correct Mercury. P120 per generic 100 MG pill. The little birdie also reconnoitered the other Mercury, and discovered the same generic V was being sold at p250/ pill.
Thanks, birdie.
First and foremost I want to thank everyone here on ISG for all the valuable information. I came in from Bangkok to Manila a little over a week ago. Filled out my ETravel card 3 days before my flight. Cebu Pacific was great and I got breathtaking views of manilla and the plane was landing at Ninoy Aquino Airport. I deplaned and speed walked past everyone and when I got to immigration there were only 2 people ahead of me. I had me Etravel card email confirmation thing in my phone and passport in my other hand and walked up to the immigrantion officer who spoke perfect English and stamped me in for 30 days. Literally took like 30 seconds. I made it to the baggage carousel before the luggage arrived and had to wait about 20 mins to get my suitcase.
I then found an ATM and had no problems withdrawing 10,000 php. Fee is 250 php but Fidelity reimburses those. Anyways I found the globe kiosk and got a sim card and data package before leaving the airport. I also saw there was a Dennys on the second floor so I went and had breakfast before leaving the airport as I was early for my airbnb check in anyways.
Leaving from the airport I used the Indriver App I have on my phone (similar to grab) to order a ride. He showed up in about 15 minutes right by the grab pick up station outside but on the inner driveway not the outer street. I hopped in and off we went. I've read here that traffic is bad in Manila but he got me to my Airbnb in Makati in no more than 30 minutes.
My airbnb is pretty nice, it's nothing super fancy but for $18 a day it has all the necessities. Standard size bed, couch, TV with cignal cable, Wi-Fi, hot shower, small kitchen with microwave and small fridge and plates and utensils. Also a small table where I set up my laptop to work. I'm located near the Evangelista neighborhood of Makati.
I want to send a special thanks to Mdemde. He helped me out with my first two girls I saw here, Nica and Mylene. Nica, whom I had made contact with before my arrival turned out to be really good. She's a 22 year old petite Pinay with a soft spoken voice. 3000 php plus joyride fares for bbfscip. Maylene was even better she's 19 years old and has a bit of an acne problem on her face but she is way more sensual and enthusiastic in bed whereas Nica fet somewhat mechanical. Also Mylene has a great body with perfect perky titties and a real nice apple bottom ass. Thanks again Mdemde you're the man bro.
After these two I paid for the subscription for PinaLove so I can use all the features and be able to message the ladies. So far I've gotten about 20 more from the Pina Love site including one that stayed the whole night and didn't even want any money.
They've been coming from as far north as Valenzuela City, port area, Quezon City, quite a few here in Makati and some to the south off of a road called Molinos. All have been BBBJ / BBFS with prices as low as 2500 php including transport to a high of 3000 php plus transport. Transport that they prefer is a motorbike Uber type app called joyride and / or Move It. Fares are usually between 100 php to 300 php depending on the distance.
I'm quite impressed with how much it looks and feels like Latin America with all the street side food vendors and markets. Alot of English and Spanish mixed in with the tagalog language too so it makes it easier to communicate and understand things. I already knew some of the basics too like Magadang Umaga, kamusta ka, and Salamat po.
So far I've had a great time here. Only issue was trying to buy Viagra or Cialis at mercury drug and Watsons they wouldn't sell Me anything without a prescription which I thought was kind of weird but I found a small mom and pop run pharmacy that was happy to oblige.
Will post updates in the days and weeks ahead.
-Gabacho.
So far I've had a great time here. Only issue was trying to buy Viagra or Cialis at mercury drug and Watsons they wouldn't sell Me anything without a prescription which I thought was kind of weird but I found a small mom and pop run pharmacy that was happy to oblige.
Will post updates in the days and weeks ahead.
-Gabacho.Philippines is all about research and preparation, you sound like you were well prepared.
Try TGP pharmacy (the generic pharmacy) I had no problems in Cebu getting drugs.
They've been coming from as far north as Valenzuela City, port area, Quezon City, quite a few here in Makati and some to the south off of a road called Molinos. All have been BBBJ / BBFS with prices as low as 2500 php including transport to a high of 3000 php plus transport. Transport that they prefer is a motorbike Uber type app called joyride and / or Move It. Fares are usually between 100 php to 300 php depending on the distance.
-Gabacho.Awesome intro and welcome to the Philippines! Regarding the transpo fees, how are you paying this portion? Are you personally on the app ordering and paying for the girl's ride to and from? Do they order the ride and have you pay on arrival? Do you just hand them an extra P100 - P300 bill? Sorry for these questions, but it's been a while since I've been there and seems like the norm is changing.
Awesome intro and welcome to the Philippines! Regarding the transpo fees, how are you paying this portion? Are you personally on the app ordering and paying for the girl's ride to and from? Do they order the ride and have you pay on arrival? Do you just hand them an extra P100 - P300 bill? Sorry for these questions, but it's been a while since I've been there and seems like the norm is changing.It's been all 3 of these scenarios actually. It depends on the girl. Some will give me their pick up address and have me book them on my joyride app and others will ask for my address and book themselves and then message me when they arrive and I go out and meet her and pay the driver. And sometimes they will pay their own fare before I even get outside and in that case I reimburse them.
WestCoast1
10-14-24, 14:59
So far I've had a great time here. Only issue was trying to buy Viagra or Cialis at mercury drug and Watsons they wouldn't sell Me anything without a prescription which I thought was kind of weird but I found a small mom and pop run pharmacy that was happy to oblige.Do see my post, just one below (before) yours. Generic V for p120 per pill, at Mercury Drugs in Makati:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1006-Makati&p=2951857&viewfull=1#post2951857
Do see my post, just one below (before) yours. Generic V for p120 per pill, at Mercury Drugs in Makati:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1006-Makati&p=2951857&viewfull=1#post2951857Yea I see your post bro, however the Mercury drug I went to on Apolinario told me they couldn't sell me sildenafil or tadalafil without a prescription same thing at the Watsons further down Apolinario closer to the Jollibee and McDonald's.
I subsequently found a place called Bea Pharmacy on Captain Reyes street that sells me Sildenafil in a 4 pack (100 MG) for 400 pesos. The brand is Nelpa sildenafil citrate 100 MG for pills for P400.
Gabacho.
WestCoast1
10-14-24, 17:58
Yea I see your post bro, however the Mercury drug I went to on Apolinario told me they couldn't sell me sildenafil or tadalafil without a prescription same thing at the Watsons further down Apolinario closer to the Jollibee and McDonald's.Its interesting in that the drug stores, which appear to be a chain, can have wildly different prices. The 2 Mercury's on Makati Ave, just a few short blocks apart, were selling the same generic off-brand 100 MG V pills for p120 and p250 per pill. Nobody seemed interested in a prescription at either place, but other places want to see it.
I subsequently found a place called Bea Pharmacy on Captain Reyes street that sells me Sildenafil in a 4 pack (100 MG) for 400 pesos. The brand is Nelpa sildenafil citrate 100 MG for pills for P400.That's an even better price than the Mercury on Makati Ave (p480 per pack of 4 x 100 MG). Good catch.
Yea I see your post bro, however the Mercury drug I went to on Apolinario told me they couldn't sell me sildenafil or tadalafil without a prescription same thing at the Watsons further down Apolinario closer to the Jollibee and McDonald's.
I subsequently found a place called Bea Pharmacy on Captain Reyes street that sells me Sildenafil in a 4 pack (100 MG) for 400 pesos. The brand is Nelpa sildenafil citrate 100 MG for pills for P400.
Gabacho.I meant Evangelista not Apolinario that's one block over. I'm still kind of learning the streets here. The street I was referring to with the mercury drug Watsons and Jollibee and mcdonald's is called Evangelista street. The whole in the wall pharmacy called Bea Pharmacy where they sell the sildenafil 4 packs for 400 pesos is correct though on Captain Reyes street.
WestCoast1
10-15-24, 10:38
I meant Evangelista not Apolinario that's one block over. I'm still kind of learning the streets here. The street I was referring to with the mercury drug Watsons and Jollibee and mcdonald's is called Evangelista street. The whole in the wall pharmacy called Bea Pharmacy where they sell the sildenafil 4 packs for 400 pesos is correct though on Captain Reyes street.Rather off the beaten path, in Brgy Bankal, Pasay I think. Are you staying in the area? From the picture: Far right is the Skyway.
Large purple outlined area east of the river is typical Makati working-class area, quite a contrast to the Ayala / Glorieta biz district. Sometimes referred to as 'Tinio'.
Red outlined area west of the river is a squatter area. Walking along the Virginia Extension might force you to randomly and repeatedly play a game of WHAT'S! THAT! SMELL!. The green X marks Central Park, an interestingly odd old condo / residence. A high-rise condo that appears to have been abandoned long ago. Every square air conditioner has been removed*, leaving approximately an open 1 m-square in the wall of every single unit. Yet, the place is occupied. Anyone know if its a squatter building? There is a police station across the street and squatter buildings.
Upper-right in the pic where the street is labeled Evangelista is a blue 'G' within a red circle. Evangelista / Balderama St is the location of Gilberto's Bar. A birdie tells me you can get many things there. Let your imagination run.
* Read: Possibly stolen. Possibly ordered removed by a city planning to demolish. Or other.
Rather off the beaten path, in Brgy Bankal, Pasay I think. Are you staying in the area? From the picture: Far right is the Skyway.
Large purple outlined area east of the river is typical Makati working-class area, quite a contrast to the Ayala / Glorieta biz district. Sometimes referred to as 'Tinio'.
Red outlined area west of the river is a squatter area. Walking along the Virginia Extension might force you to randomly and repeatedly play a game of WHAT'S! THAT! SMELL!. The green X marks Central Park, an interestingly odd old condo / residence. A high-rise condo that appears to have been abandoned long ago. Every square air conditioner has been removed*, leaving approximately an open 1 m-square in the wall of every single unit. Yet, the place is occupied. Anyone know if its a squatter building? There is a police station across the street and squatter buildings..Yea that is the area I am in right in the middle of your purple circle on the map. I kind of like the area. Reminds me a lot of Mexico.
Yea I see your post bro.
Gabacho.Hi Gab,
It looks like Westie has given you some great info here and I hope it works out well for you.
I'd just be a little conservative about referring people as 'bro' in conversation.
We get it here in Australia all the time with New Zealand Māori's addressing us as 'bros' and it infuriates me.
They're not my fucking brother and I tell them so.
Yes, old fashioned at 50, but I'll never be a 'Bro' to someone I don't know.
Have a great time in the Phils _ Phil.
Hi Gab,
It looks like Westie has given you some great info here and I hope it works out well for you.
I'd just be a little conservative about referring people as 'bro' in conversation.
We get it here in Australia all the time with New Zealand Māori's addressing us as 'bros' and it infuriates me.
They're not my fucking brother and I tell them so.
Yes, old fashioned at 50, but I'll never be a 'Bro' to someone I don't know.
Have a great time in the Phils _ Phil.Thanks for your input Phil, I'm from the west coast of the US and we refer to everyone as bro over there. Didn't mean to offend anyone. And thank you west coast for the info. I might check out Gilberto bar on Evangelista ST I'm staying close to there and I want to ride in one of those jeepney things anyways, they look cool.
-Gabacho.
Hello all.
Thanks for taking the time to read my first post, thank you for all your previous posts I'm trying to get through, great work has been made!. I look forward to giving feedback post my pending trip on Nov 18-26.
I will be staying on Makati Av, as this is a work trip my time is going to be consumed significantly, leaving me with a few hrs per night to get into the action.
I have seen the posts re Pinalove and must admit I've never used an app for chasing ladies.
I would be open to any number of tips you may be able to provide a first timer in The Philippines and first time seeking some female interaction whilst overseas whilst time poor.
Planning to plan well!
I truly appreciate any feedback you may have.
I just went to go get more generic Viagra from the place I previously mentioned. Still the same P400 for a box of 4 100 MG sildenafil pills no prescription needed.
I took pictures this time of the street sign and the outside of the pharmacy as well as the box of Viagra pills.
I hope this helps anyone who may be reading this who's here and needs Viagra.
-Gabacho.
Hello all.
I have seen the posts re Pinalove and must admit I've never used an app for chasing ladies.
I would be open to any number of tips you may be able to provide a first timer in The Philippines and first time seeking some female interaction whilst overseas whilst time poor.
Planning to plan well!
I truly appreciate any feedback you may have.Also try TanTan. Its free and for casual meets there is a better strike rate. Always ask if they are a ladyboy.
Also try TanTan. Its free and for casual meets there is a better strike rate. Always ask if they are a ladyboy.Thanks GDreams.
That would be most unfortunate, finding a snake in the grass. Top tip!
WestCoast1
10-17-24, 14:40
Yea that is the area I am in right in the middle of your purple circle on the map. I kind of like the area. Reminds me a lot of Mexico.Good sir, how did you end up in this area? Its a bit off Manila's beaten path of either Malate (LA Cafe and KTV's) and Makati (Burgos). And yes, many parts of Phils, including the smaller cities, will remind one of Mexico. There's even a Mexican resto in Makati called La chupacabra.
Good sir, how did you end up in this area? Its a bit off Manila's beaten path of either Malate (LA Cafe and KTV's) and Makati (Burgos). And yes, many parts of Phils, including the smaller cities, will remind one of Mexico. There's even a Mexican resto in Makati called La chupacabra.It had the best priced Airbnb apartment that I could find, so I just decided to stay here to save money compared to the pricier Airbnb's I saw in the other areas. I haven't had any issue getting women from PinaLove to come here.
Anyone tried this agency? Would you recommend 2 hours or overnight? Do the girls from this agency stay all 12 hours or want to run away early? Can you pop them at night and again in the morning before they go, for the 12 hour fee? Is the sex covered or will they do bareback for extra? Any experiences with bareback on these girls?
WestCoast1
10-18-24, 06:56
Anyone tried this agency? Would you recommend 2 hours or overnight? Do the girls from this agency stay all 12 hours or want to run away early? Can you pop them at night and again in the morning before they go, for the 12 hour fee? Is the sex covered or will they do bareback for extra? Any experiences with bareback on these girls?Gents can find previously-written reports on any topic with the Advanced Search option, found at the top-right corner of every page on ISG (see pic). Once you click on that, in the search boxes, enter the terms you are looking for on ISG, and you can narrow that down to a specific country with the drop-down box. Then click SEARCH NOW. This might give you more posts than you need to look thru, and you can narrow the search more by entering anyone's username (WestCoast1, or Goferring, etc) in the User Name box.
Happy hunting.
Hello all.
Thanks for taking the time to read my first post, thank you for all your previous posts I'm trying to get through, great work has been made!. I look forward to giving feedback post my pending trip on Nov 18-26.
I will be staying on Makati Av, as this is a work trip my time is going to be consumed significantly, leaving me with a few hrs per night to get into the action.
I have seen the posts re Pinalove and must admit I've never used an app for chasing ladies.
I would be open to any number of tips you may be able to provide a first timer in The Philippines and first time seeking some female interaction whilst overseas whilst time poor.
Planning to plan well!
I truly appreciate any feedback you may have.Subscribe to the premium option and upload an appealing photo / get whatsapp on your phone.
I was just reminiscing about all the fun I used to have years ago and Cafe Havana. Is this place still around?
ManFromHeaven
10-18-24, 20:59
Anyone tried this agency? Would you recommend 2 hours or overnight? Do the girls from this agency stay all 12 hours or want to run away early? Can you pop them at night and again in the morning before they go, for the 12 hour fee? Is the sex covered or will they do bareback for extra? Any experiences with bareback on these girls?Yes I used Manila Courtesans when I visited last year. It is up to you but I booked for 2 hours and seen 2 girls on separate days. They provide DFK DATY BBBJ and covered sex but YMMV. I usually prefer covered sex so did not have to ask for BBCIP. It is expensive as compared to FL. But they will not stay for entire 2 hours as they promise. I prefer if you don't want to hunt outside. Not all girls will be available at all times and it is 24 hour service. The best way is to use chat window on their website and they will ask the proof of hotel room picture to make sure we are not wasting their time. The girls clean themselves before session starts. If you are paid Smooci member you can book from that website with little discount rates.
Anyone tried this agency? Would you recommend 2 hours or overnight? Do the girls from this agency stay all 12 hours or want to run away early? Can you pop them at night and again in the morning before they go, for the 12 hour fee? Is the sex covered or will they do bareback for extra? Any experiences with bareback on these girls?I saw two escorts using Manila Courtesans. My experience has been that making a reservation / appointment with a girl in advance doesn't mean much. Both times I did, I had to change the girl and see another provider.
The first time I took a young 19 year old. I did two hours. She didn't speak English well at all. She didn't have a condom, and kept asking what to do. I didn't want BBFS, as I was seeing my partner after. I told her I was fine with her just BBBJ or pussy job. Next thing I know she puts it inside, but it wasn't a good experience. One of the few times I regretted having sex. I pulled out, came on her tummy, and sent her away. The next escort was the total opposite. She was prepared, GFE, and 2. 5 shots in two hours.
Overall, I recommend. I think the first girl I saw was an aberration, as I saw her off their list very soon thereafter.
I saw two escorts using Manila Courtesans. My experience has been that making a reservation / appointment with a girl in advance doesn't mean much. Both times I did, I had to change the girl and see another provider.
The first time I took a young 19 year old. I did two hours. She didn't speak English well at all. She didn't have a condom, and kept asking what to do. I didn't want BBFS, as I was seeing my partner after. I told her I was fine with her just BBBJ or pussy job. Next thing I know she puts it inside, but it wasn't a good experience. One of the few times I regretted having sex. I pulled out, came on her tummy, and sent her away. The next escort was the total opposite. She was prepared, GFE, and 2. 5 shots in two hours.
Overall, I recommend. I think the first girl I saw was an aberration, as I saw her off their list very soon thereafter.How exactly do you have 2. 5 shots? You had a half orgasm somehow?
Also wouldn't the first girl have been the better provider? I don't see from. What you wrote that she did anything wrong in fact it is the provider that insists on condoms that is the problem. Just take some doxycycline if you were worried about passing something to your partner, but if you have a partner why are you fucking hookers in the first place?
I was just reminiscing about all the fun I used to have years ago and Cafe Havana. Is this place still around?No, Green Belt was remodelled post pandemic and Havana was one of casualties, it's now a posh cafe instead. Still some girls around there at night, but it is like 1/50th of amount it would have been as Havana.
How exactly do you have 2. 5 shots? You had a half orgasm somehow?
Also wouldn't the first girl have been the better provider? I don't see from. What you wrote that she did anything wrong in fact it is the provider that insists on condoms that is the problem. Just take some doxycycline if you were worried about passing something to your partner, but if you have a partner why are you fucking hookers in the first place?2. 5 shots = sex twice with orgasm, and one more time, but no orgasm.
As for why the second provider was better, I didn't detail it here, but I did in my original post way back when. The first provider was reticent to do anything without a condom and looked very unsure and uncomfortable with the situation. I wanted to see her for fun, not to feel guilty about it later, which I did because she was obviously uncomfortable. I had given her the option of leaving to get condoms earlier or to even just leave if she wanted to, as she looked uncomfortable. The second provider insisted on condoms, and I wanted condoms, too. This is my personal preference if I am fucking someone I am not in a relationship with, especially a sex worker. It's been discussed as nauseum in this forum and really comes down to personal preference.
As to why fuck a hooker if I have a partner, you could ask that to about half of the mongers on this forum. My answer? Because I love my partner, but wanted to experience sex with a thin 19-20 year old woman, too. Save your judgement for somewhere else.
2. 5 shots = sex twice with orgasm, and one more time, but no orgasm.
As for why the second provider was better, I didn't detail it here, but I did in my original post way back when. The first provider was reticent to do anything without a condom and looked very unsure and uncomfortable with the situation. I wanted to see her for fun, not to feel guilty about it later, which I did because she was obviously uncomfortable. I had given her the option of leaving to get condoms earlier or to even just leave if she wanted to, as she looked uncomfortable. The second provider insisted on condoms, and I wanted condoms, too. This is my personal preference if I am fucking someone I am not in a relationship with, especially a sex worker. It's been discussed as nauseum in this forum and really comes down to personal preference.
As to why fuck a hooker if I have a partner, you could ask that to about half of the mongers on this forum. My answer? Because I love my partner, but wanted to experience sex with a thin 19-20 year old woman, too. Save your judgement for somewhere else.Thanks. For your honest answers. I thought shots meant orgasms this the confusion. And you are right it's all about personal preference and each person's own level of risk they are willing to take.
And I wasn't judging you just simply curious why pay for sex. If you already have a partner for sex, I prefer to be single myself. But I understand your situation.
-Gabacho.
I saw a video on YouTube noting that Neon Nights had been closed by the authorities.
Anyone know the reason?
Is there any chance of it reopening?
It was a good alternative to the girlie bars.
Day 1 back in Makati after a long hiatus. First, to get some general stuff out of the way. I filled out the eArrival for in the app and immigration didn't even bother asking for it. Landed Tuesday afternoon and Grab ride to Makati took about 30 to 40 minutes and P470, not sure if that was due to traffic or whatever. Bought an esim before traveling (Airalo), so landed in country and was able to use data straight away. Cost was $10 USD for 5 gigs, installation was super easy.
Had chatted with PL girls about 1 week prior to coming here and found a couple promising ones who expressed interest in meeting up. The first day, I arranged an afternoon meeting at Starbucks with a 22 year old who showed up over an hour late. Typical, but she was petite and cute so I thought we were off to a good start. Once we had coffee, she agreed to go back to my hotel, but once in the room, she kept claiming she was shy and didn't seem to want to do anything. I managed to convince her to undress, went down on her hoping to set the mood, and started to fuck, but she was suuper right and complained about being in pain. So much so that she kept arching her back and extending her legs that I couldn't do anything. Gave up in frustration, asked her to blow me for a finish in mouth, and sent her away with P2000. Hopefully better luck tomorrow.
BTW I know registering guests is a thing in Phils, but any issues with a different guest every day? TIA.
Gave up in frustration, asked her to blow me for a finish in mouth, and sent her away with P2000. Hopefully better luck tomorrow.
BTW I know registering guests is a thing in Phils, but any issues with a different guest every day? TIA.Hi Donnahito.
Never had an issue with registering a different guest during a Makati hotel stay.
Just a tip, get friendly and tip the door guys a small amount.
Also, if you ask the right questions, they'll sort out a girl for you who will do the business and you won't be left disappointed compared to online gambling.
Just my experience _ Phil.
BTW I know registering guests is a thing in Phils, but any issues with a different guest every day? TIA.Register long term guests ie girlfriends at check-in. Short term guests leave there ID with security or reception before they go upstairs.
Note that this only applies to hotels that record such details. Many don't and the girl (s) can just walk straight in and up to your room if they know the number.
Don't over think things. You're not going to be the first guy to bring a hooker into the hotel. They see this type of thing a hundred times a day. There is no problem with multiple guests per day or even at the same time (as long as the room capacity isn't exceeded).
G.
IndianGenie
10-23-24, 00:09
Gentlemen, I know this is a wierd ask. I'm on vacation. Staying off Burgos at Coro.
Looking for recommendations for manscaping services around here. Either at hotel or salon. If it's a beautiful chick with extras, that would be the icing. But mainly looking for good quality legit manscaping and pampering service.
Day 2, thought I would get some morning action on PL. Again, found a petite 20 something girl who agreed to meet for 3 k so I pulled the trigger. Surprisingly she was only 20 ish minutes late, and seemed cute in person. From idle chatter, she said she was half Vietnamese and had worked in a KTV before, so at least I figured she knew what she was doing.
Unfortunately that didn't turn out to be the case. She wanted zero lights on and curtains closed, and I half jokingly thought she was a ladyboy, butI was gladly wrong. However, her BJ technique was to jackhammer the tip with her mouth while squeezing the shaft like a go-gurt, all the while occasionally wiping her spit off with a towel. Somehow all these actions resulted in a sharp pain at my tip, made me lose all interest, and told her to stop.
Bad news turns worse when she wouldn't leave without the agreed upon 3 k plus P200 for transportation. I didn't want to argue or potentially catch any legal issues for what amounts to dinner for 2 back in the States, so I shoved her out the door with P3. 2 k. This puts a dampener on what should be a fun filled time, and I'm contemplating hitting up Burgos for a more consistent experience.
WestCoast1
10-23-24, 05:56
Bad news turns worse when she wouldn't leave without the agreed upon 3 k plus P200 for transportation. I didn't want to argue or potentially catch any legal issues for what amounts to dinner for 2 back in the States, so I shoved her out the door with P3. 2 k. This puts a dampener on what should be a fun filled time, and I'm contemplating hitting up Burgos for a more consistent experience.Good report. This almost exactly encapsulates the possible disadvantages of online girls vs the more expensive advantage of point-and-shoot gogo girls. The twice-as-expensive (or more) gogo girl will perform well if she wants to claim the end-of-service tip. Six of one, half a dozen of the other.
Day 2, thought I would get some morning action on PL. Again, found a petite 20 something girl who agreed to meet for 3 k so I pulled the trigger. Surprisingly she was only 20 ish minutes late, and seemed cute in person. From idle chatter, she said she was half Vietnamese and had worked in a KTV before, so at least I figured she knew what she was doing.
Unfortunately that didn't turn out to be the case. She wanted zero lights on and curtains closed, and I half jokingly thought she was a ladyboy, butI was gladly wrong. However, her BJ technique was to jackhammer the tip with her mouth while squeezing the shaft like a go-gurt, all the while occasionally wiping her spit off with a towel. Somehow all these actions resulted in a sharp pain at my tip, made me lose all interest, and told her to stop.
Bad news turns worse when she wouldn't leave without the agreed upon 3 k plus P200 for transportation. I didn't want to argue or potentially catch any legal issues for what amounts to dinner for 2 back in the States, so I shoved her out the door with P3. 2 k. This puts a dampener on what should be a fun filled time, and I'm contemplating hitting up Burgos for a more consistent experience.I do think it is better if you can talk tot hen for about a week before you meet, if you're doing the online game. It gets rid of the ones who are hardened online pros because they won't waste their time talking to you for that long. It also builds a certain level of comfort.
I'm just curious why you didn't just have sex with her if you didn't want the blowjob? Was it too painful, or would she not stop until it was too late?
Yeah, basically whatever she did made me too painful to maintain an erection. Quick update about 6 hours post ordeal, area is slightly sore and very sensitive not in a good way. Not sure how long this'll take to settle down, but I'm annoyed at missing other opportunities. Not worried about catching anything since I'm on PrEP and doxy PEP.
Old And Ugly
10-23-24, 08:52
......I filled out the eArrival for in the app and immigration didn't even bother asking for it......They have that in the computer already, this is why you do it online.
Yeah, basically whatever she did made me too painful to maintain an erection. Quick update about 6 hours post ordeal, area is slightly sore and very sensitive not in a good way. Not sure how long this'll take to settle down, but I'm annoyed at missing other opportunities. Not worried about catching anything since I'm on PrEP and doxy PEP.So she basically broke your dick and still insisted on a tip? With respect, to have consecutive ripoffs, you must have been giving off serious newbie vibes. No shame in that we have all been there.
For future reference, the whole intention behind post paid fucks is the ability to withhold funds based upon performance. Sure, you can't just decide not to pay someone if services are rendered as requested but if things go sideways you have every right to withhold part / full payment.
While bars now very rarely side with customers over girls, hotel security are only a call away and typically will assist you if a girl is going crazy. Especially so if you are on good terms with them. Obviously, you will have to grease a few palms and say thanks but it's worth it even if it is only to show the girls that you have the ability to call support. Hell, I'd happily give the security the full 3200 just so she didn't get any.
Expect her to go nuts. Threats of uncles in the police etc are perfectly normal. Again, stand your ground and show that she can't intimidate you. I actually handed a girl my phone once and told her she can call any General in my contact list that she wants. That shut her up real fast.
Enjoy. G.
Gentlemen, I know this is a wierd ask. I'm on vacation. Staying off Burgos at Coro.
Looking for recommendations for manscaping services around here. Either at hotel or salon. If it's a beautiful chick with extras, that would be the icing. But mainly looking for good quality legit manscaping and pampering service.Hi mate. Basically wouldn't have a clue but generally if you tip the hotel doormen and security guys, they'll get what you want. Some things can get lost in translation, but from experience, you'll have a good time _ Phil.
Bad news turns worse when she wouldn't leave without the agreed upon 3 k plus P200 for transportation. I didn't want to argue or potentially catch any legal issues for what amounts to dinner for 2 back in the States, so I shoved her out the door with P3. 2 k. This puts a dampener on what should be a fun filled time, and I'm contemplating hitting up Burgos for a more consistent experience.Hi Mate,
Westie and G have offered some great feedback and advice.
It looks like you've spent some decent money on hit and miss online hook-ups.
Maybe the Go-Go option may be the way to go for a bit of extra cash and with satisfaction almost guaranteed, but some of those girls will also 'play the game' to their own advantage.
Additionally, think outside the box and ask any local (taxi driver, 7-11 guy, the KFC manager etc) if you know where you can find a pretty girl, and you'll generally get a friend or relative lined up within half an hour. They mightn't be 9/10 girls, but I've never been disappointed and keep in touch with them for future one night stays in Manila whilst I'm in transit.
All I'll add is, we've all been disappointed throughout the 'journey' at some stage and it's the classic case of learning by your mistakes.
There's been a number of times I've said to myself, "Well I won't fucking do that again".
_ Phil.
IndianGenie
10-23-24, 23:21
Hi mate. Basically wouldn't have a clue but generally if you tip the hotel doormen and security guys, they'll get what you want. Some things can get lost in translation, but from experience, you'll have a good time _ Phil.Thanks! I asked the doorman and he said "you can order in-room massage from the spa in the hotel" with a wink. Guess he communicated to the spa about what I was really looking for and turned out to be an amazing experience. Started with a wonderful lather and shave around the pubics and ass, some nice-smelling lotion massage for aftershave and a HJ in the shower. All before the actual massage which was mind-blowing on its own. P1500 to the spa and p1500 to the therapist. I got to find the doorman in his next shift and tip him well. .
WestCoast1
10-24-24, 05:16
I saw a video on YouTube noting that Neon Nights had been closed by the authorities.
Anyone know the reason?
Is there any chance of it reopening?
It was a good alternative to the girlie bars.Must have missed this before. From Sept 14 posting (regarding NN bar) this Makati thread. RTFF might help:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1006-Makati&p=2945013&viewfull=1#post2945013
And from Oct 9 this thread:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1006-Makati&p=2951788&viewfull=1#post2951788
Must have missed this before. From Sept 14 posting (regarding NN bar) this Makati thread. RTFF might help:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1006-Makati&p=2945013&viewfull=1#post2945013
And from Oct 9 this thread:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1006-Makati&p=2951788&viewfull=1#post2951788I was told someone (tourist) high on drugs jumped off the Makati Hotel next to NN which lead to an investigation where he got the drugs.
I was told someone (tourist) high on drugs jumped off the Makati Hotel next to NN which lead to an investigation where he got the drugs.Absolutely nothing to do with fact that the only three bars closed were foreign owned. Other Filipino owners absolutely didn't request these bars, some of most successful, were closed. Haha.
Thanks! I asked the doorman and he said "you can order in-room massage from the spa in the hotel" with a wink. Guess he communicated to the spa about what I was really looking for and turned out to be an amazing experience. Started with a wonderful lather and shave around the pubics and ass, some nice-smelling lotion massage for aftershave and a HJ in the shower. All before the actual massage which was mind-blowing on its own. P1500 to the spa and p1500 to the therapist. I got to find the doorman in his next shift and tip him well. .Great to hear IG.
From experience, if you get the door and security guys onside early in the piece, you'll be rewarded.
And so will they.
It's usually a happy ending for all involved.
_ Phil.
I want to send a special thanks to Mdemde. He helped me out with my first two girls I saw here, Nica and Mylene. Nica, whom I had made contact with before my arrival turned out to be really good. She's a 22 year old petite Pinay with a soft spoken voice. 3000 php plus joyride fares for bbfscip. Maylene was even better she's 19 years old and has a bit of an acne problem on her face but she is way more sensual and enthusiastic in bed whereas Nica fet somewhat mechanical. Also Mylene has a great body with perfect perky titties and a real nice apple bottom ass. Thanks again Mdemde you're the man bro.I met the same girl via Mdemde. She's a very cute spinner, exactly my type. I saw her 3 times including a threesome where she brought her friend. For me she was great in bed, so I decided to make her a regular and so got her contact info. When I tell you that she spammed me for money on a daily basis, with texts, phone calls, video chats, I cannot even begin to describe how often and aggressive she became. I heard every excuse in the book. Sick family, she was sick, she had a business she was trying to start, she was low on money for the week, she had no food, she had no power / water because she couldn't pay the bills, her family needed money for construction at their province home, etc. The only excuse I didn't hear was the sick water buffalo. I eventually blocked her, but then received a message from another phone number apologizing and asking me to see her again. I agreed but warned her directly that if she asked me for money again, she would be blocked, and she said OK. No kidding, within an hour, she asked for money. Just an FYI.
Papae Noel
10-25-24, 07:34
Staying off Burgos at Coro.
Looking for recommendations for manscaping services around here. Either at hotel or salon.I prefer waxing. Even if I am staying in Makati, I will go to Robinsons Mall in Malate. I think the salon is called Lay Bare and located on the 4th floor. The girl (quite a bit overweight) is really good at her job, but don't know if they do "manscaping". You might try calling them and ask this question. I imagine they have been asked this before.
I prefer waxing. Even if I am staying in Makati, I will go to Robinsons Mall in Malate. I think the salon is called Lay Bare and located on the 4th floor. The girl (quite a bit overweight) is really good at her job, but don't know if they do "manscaping". You might try calling them and ask this question. I imagine they have been asked this before.In Makati, IG can walk in a straight line from Greenbelt to SM. It's essentially non stop malls. Even the entrance and exit doors between them line up. There are numerous salons with in these malls. Just pick any of them and ask. Men may have to reserve a booking as there may only be one or two technicians that do male services.
Extras on site are unlikely. However, she may show you hers or organise for a follow-up appointment after work. Anything is possible.
Old And Ugly
10-25-24, 10:02
I prefer waxing. Even if I am staying in Makati, I will go to Robinsons Mall in Malate. I think the salon is called Lay Bare and located on the 4th floor. The girl (quite a bit overweight) is really good at her job, but don't know if they do "manscaping". You might try calling them and ask this question. I imagine they have been asked this before.If you end up in AC there is a salon in the SM Mall named Hey Sugar Waxing, I used it many times, before I discovered Veet cream (a lot cheaper, and no pain). No extras offered on site, very clean, costs around 1500.
I met the same girl via Mdemde. She's a very cute spinner, exactly my type. I saw her 3 times including a threesome where she brought her friend. For me she was great in bed, so I decided to make her a regular and so got her contact info. When I tell you that she spammed me for money on a daily basis, with texts, phone calls, video chats, I cannot even begin to describe how often and aggressive she became. I heard every excuse in the book. Sick family, she was sick, she had a business she was trying to start, she was low on money for the week, she had no food, she had no power / water because she couldn't pay the bills, her family needed money for construction at their province home, etc. The only excuse I didn't hear was the sick water buffalo. I eventually blocked her, but then received a message from another phone number apologizing and asking me to see her again. I agreed but warned her directly that if she asked me for money again, she would be blocked, and she said OK. No kidding, within an hour, she asked for money. Just an FYI.I already blocked her like way back 3 weeks ago I think the next day after I saw her. She kept asking me to send her Gcash and I kept telling her no so after like the third time she asked I just blocked her. I did manage to fuck one of her friends before that happened though. The other girl mdemde gave me was much better and hasn't asked for any money her name is maylene. But the WhatsApp number he gave me turned out to be an old number and a dude claiming to be her boyfriend had responded cussing me out (that was when I was still in Thailand). But after I got here and got on PinaLove I looked up Mylene's profile and it had a different WhatsApp number now and I messaged her on the new number and it was her. She was definitely the better of his two girls and no drama and no begging for free money. I bareback CIP'd all 3 of them by the way.
Cheers,
Gabacho.
Azmodeus Fl
10-25-24, 17:31
If she keeps up with the waxing eventually she goes bald due to hair follicles not producing hairs anymore.
No, Green Belt was remodelled post pandemic and Havana was one of casualties, it's now a posh cafe instead. Still some girls around there at night, but it is like 1/50th of amount it would have been as Havana.Yeah man, I loved that place. Even if you didn't pick up a girl, it was fun. I used to bring my girls from Burgos there after I paid their BF and we'd have fun. I usually was staying close by so it was easy to get a girl. And they had good music. Outdoors it could get hot on some nights though.
Extras on site are unlikely. However, she may show you hers or organise for a follow-up appointment after work. Anything is possible.Spot on G. It's The Phils and anything is possible. A surprise around every corner and under the bakla's skirt, for the drunk and unsuspecting.
_ Phil.
Day 3 late update. Appreciate all the advice from senior board members, I'll certainly try to keep them in mind going forward. Anyways, decided to check out the pharmacy WestCoast mentioned a bit back. The Mercury store off Gen Lua Street. The clerk said their generic V was P250 per pill, and there was no other discounts or brands to make it cheaper. I checked out the other Mercury store closer to Burgos, and it was the same inflated price. I decided to kill time and walked to Greenbelt passing a couple more pharmacies along the way and they all wanted either a prescription or P250 per pill. I can report that Bea Pharmacy mentioned earlier had generic V available P100 per pill.
Later that day, I made one last gamble with one of my PL contacts. Those in country know a tropical storm just rolled past Manila and some parts were hit hard. This girl in particular seemed to have been affected, being forced to evacuate and complaining about being hungry. So when she finally got her shit sorted out, she happily agreed to meet long time for 3 k. Given my recent experiences, I was keeping my expectations in check and told her to meet at a local Starbucks. She arrived about 15 minutes late, not bad for Phils, and closely matched the pictures she had sent over. After I paid her Grab driver, we got a drink and started some light convo. I could tell her English wasn't strong, but she was expressive and seemed to want to communicate, so at least it wouldn't be totally awkward in between rounds. We agreed to go back to my hotel for a quick "rest" before heading to a mall for dinner. In the room, she wasted no time jumping in the shower and asked me to do the same right after. I was greeted to the sight of her naked and hiding under the blanket, so what could I do besides spoon her and start feeling her up. We started to DFK next and after a bit, I pushed her down to get Junior to join the party. Switched around in a few positions, including 69, but I stopped her before I blew my load. I went to DATY, and she let out soft sighs which got me ready to go in no time. I didn't give her time to ask too many questions before I spread her legs and got myself positioned to enter. Started in missionary, but that was all I could manage before finishing due to being frustrated these past couple of days. We cleaned up and then killed time at Greenbelt with dinner, drinks, and some browsing shops.
After we were both tired of walking, we took another grab back to the hotel. We both knew what was next, so took turns in the shower. I enjoyed our time together, so I told her to lay down and have her a legit massage. She definitely appreciate this gesture because after I finished with her massage, she basically pushed me down, kissed me from head to toe, and gave me one sloppy BBBJ. I told her I couldn't wait, so she jumped right on top and started grinding forward and back. Long story short, I flipped her over and finished in mish again. I wasn't expecting her to stay the night, so I gave her the agreed upon amount and sent her out the door. Overall, this is exactly the sort of experience I was looking for from PL, and I'm glad I could find it in light of some bad performing girls.
Day 4 last day. Thought I would try something different today, so I opened up smooci to see what was available. I could have sworn in the past, smooci Manila was full of agency girls with just a couple of independents, but I guess there must have been a policy change since almost everyone was independent. Most prices were reasonable too, between 3 k to 5 k, with one or two asking for 20 k (wtf LOL). I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw a 21 year old verified independent with a high rating only asking for 3. 5 k, so I pulled the trigger for a meeting 1. 5 hours from now. Surprisingly, I get a call from the front desk within 5 minutes of the arranged time saying I have a visitor.
I open my door and a gorgeous shortie is standing there in a flowing dress. She seemed surprised at my appearance as well, gave a giggle, and started getting ready. I took a quick rinse after her, and joined her in bed not long after. I wanted to start out with cuddling again, and she obliged no problem. I went to DATY next, and she was either great at acting or I found all the right spots. Her reactions were so hot that I spent a good amount of time down here, and soon she was trembling, visible wet, and had some sweat around her neck. I asked her to get on top, she asked about condom, and I casually dismissed that thought by saying "I tip". She shrugged and started riding me like a good girl, switched to doggie next. I enjoyed seeing the sweat glisten off her damp back, makes me think I'm doing something right, and flipped her over to finish in mish again. Loved it when I asked can I cum inside and she gives a shy nod and smile. It was only after we cleaned up and dressed up when she asked for payment, which I thought with smooci usually happened first thing. I gave her 4 k for the great performance plus no condom, and she looked surprised but grateful. This was a great way to round off my Philippines trip, hopefully I can squeeze some time to be back in the near future instead of waiting 5 or more years!
Also I didn't know the board limited picture to 648 x648 pixels, so sorry for bad quality.
Day 4 last day. Thought I would try something different today, so I opened up smooci to see what was available. I could have sworn in the past, smooci Manila was full of agency girls with just a couple of independents, but I guess there must have been a policy change since almost everyone was independent. Most prices were reasonable too, between 3 k to 5 k, with one or two asking for 20 k (wtf LOL). I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw a 21 year old verified independent with a high rating only asking for 3. 5 k, so I pulled the trigger for a meeting 1. 5 hours from now. Surprisingly, I get a call from the front desk within 5 minutes of the arranged time saying I have a visitor.
I open my door and a gorgeous shortie is standing there in a flowing dress. She seemed surprised at my appearance as well, gave a giggle, and started getting ready. I took a quick rinse after her, and joined her in bed not long after. I wanted to start out with cuddling again, and she obliged no problem. I went to DATY next, and she was either great at acting or I found all the right spots. Her reactions were so hot that I spent a good amount of time down here, and soon she was trembling, visible wet, and had some sweat around her neck. I asked her to get on top, she asked about condom, and I casually dismissed that thought by saying "I tip". She shrugged and started riding me like a good girl, switched to doggie next..Mind sharing her name?
Occulto has reopened, signs up outside to say under new management.
WestCoast1
12-01-24, 00:34
No posts in the Makati thread from Nov 1 till Nov 30. Wow talk about dead. Thanks the update Mut.
No posts in the Makati thread from Nov 1 till Nov 30. Wow talk about dead. Thanks the update Mut.Hi Westie,
I didn't post here as I only stayed a few days in Makati over the past few weeks as I was in transit from there to Sabang and it was basically recovery time for me.
I did mention in the Manila thread, in reply to G, that I did well at Century City Mall in Makati with a sales girl at the discount store on the lower level.
I didn't do the bar scene as I had everything sorted due to this chance meeting and opportunity.
I also had the Sabang GF basically drain me every night while I was down there.
Never-the-less, The Phils always seems to deliver wherever I go.
_Phil.
Hi Guys,
I'm looking for a slim and stacked bed partner Sunday afternoon / evening Dec 15. Willing to spend a little more in the Christmas tradition. Thanks for any referrals. On Monday I'm headed up to Angeles 2 days (Orchid Inn) and then Subic 2 days (Mangoes) if anyone wants to get a beer and a NFL football game.
Hi Guys,
I'm looking for a slim and stacked bed partner Sunday afternoon / evening Dec 15. Willing to spend a little more in the Christmas tradition. Thanks for any referrals. On Monday I'm headed up to Angeles 2 days (Orchid Inn) and then Subic 2 days (Mangoes) if anyone wants to get a beer and a NFL football game.I have got a dandy for you: a lot of milage, but she fits your requirements. Her name is Jessa, but she goes by Yoo Na on FB. Back in the day, she was a cherry girl. Anyway, she's from Subic; so, why not take a chance and give us a report. I'd be curious as well. Two pics: first, back in the day and the second a current one.
Errol Flynn
12-19-24, 15:55
Spending one night in Makati enroute to Pattaya, wasn't really looking for action but I had to take a peak, went to Kojax around 9:30 pm. About 15 girls, a couple pretty ones, but none that I had to have. Half the girls stand / sway on the stage while the other half sit in front, then they rotate. At least they're wearing bikinis.
Drinks were p200 for a micro sized rum and coke or p250 for an SML. Lady drinks were p400-p500 for different options. The p400 option was also miniature. I bought one for Mira, 20 yo, from Manila, cute and sweet she was trying to engage with me but I could tell it was a struggle for her. , asking the questions she had rehearsed. Her micro drink was gone in ten minutes (she wasn't guzzling) and I decided it was time to leave. Pattaya tomorrow. Mostly Korean customers in the bar.
Loads of "massage" girls and viagra dealers hassling everyone on P. Burgos. A few looked okay in the dark. Got a massage at Borani Thai Massage on Makati Ave. I expected it to be legit, I didn't expect it to be awful. Worst massage I've ever had in Asia. YMMV.
Pussycheck
12-22-24, 18:15
I'm looking into freelancers.
What are nowadays the best spots for the best looking freelancers in Makati from your point of view?
You see girls in real and pay them only (no bar fine, no online).
1. Octopus nightclub on P. Burgos street.
2. Cafes on P. Burgos street.
I'm looking into freelancers.
What are nowadays the best spots for the best looking freelancers in Makati from your point of view?
You see girls in real and pay them only (no bar fine, no online).
1. Octopus nightclub on P. Burgos street.
2. Cafes on P. Burgos street.Freelancers (FL) are sometimes troublesome and there is no mamasan to complain to. Some FLs are out on the street because they got fired from the club or they failed a health check. Take it from me who has been going there since the 1980's. Just be careful. I have met some FLs that are working just to make extra money from their day job, and I knew some girls who had BFs overseas and took to FL in secret to make extra money.
Good luck, let us know.
Pussycheck
01-02-25, 14:05
Freelancers (FL) are sometimes troublesome and there is no mamasan to complain to. Some FLs are out on the street because they got fired from the club or they failed a health check. Take it from me who has been going there since the 1980's. Just be careful. I have met some FLs that are working just to make extra money from their day job, and I knew some girls who had BFs overseas and took to FL in secret to make extra money.
Good luck, let us know.What do you recommend then where to take a girl from?
Go to a nightclub and take out a girl there since you can complain to a mamasan if you're not happy?
If you choose a girl online you also have "freelancer" risks.
I'm looking into freelancers.
What are nowadays the best spots for the best looking freelancers in Makati from your point of view?
You see girls in real and pay them only (no bar fine, no online).
Mate, the other guys on here might be bored with my repetitive answer to your question, but just hit up your hotel security guys for freelance options.
Firstly, they'll get a cut out of setting you up with some talent.
Secondly, there'll be no problems giving her access to your room.
And additionally, they're security guys so everything should be safe if you're not too wasted.
The girl will have to register at the desk and after the fun is over, you'll get a call to your room to make sure nothing's missing before they 'release' her.
Price-wise, probably about half you'd pay for a bar fine and you can buy your lady drinks in advance at the 7/11.
All the security guys I've dealt with have shown me social media photos of the girls before you commit.
It also helps to tip the hotel doormen 20 p every time you enter, cause they can become your best friends too when it comes to freelance play in Makati.
Another tip is keeping the WhatsApp details of the girls and that way you can have them all sorted in advance for your next visit.
_ Phil.
I have got a dandy for you: a lot of milage, but she fits your requirements. Her name is Jessa, but she goes by Yoo Na on FB. Back in the day, she was a cherry girl. Anyway, she's from Subic; so, why not take a chance and give us a report. I'd be curious as well. Two pics: first, back in the day and the second a current one.Much obliged, Doc. I haven't heard from her yet.
Giovanni Volo
01-11-25, 21:01
Hello everybody.
I am coming in Philippine from Friday 18th of April till Saturday 3rd of May.
I know is not the best time to look for girls, but these are my holydays. .
I know FIlippine girls live town during that time.
In your wiew in Makati there are someones living that remain and keep working? (obvioulsy Esatern day exclude).
And, more important question, around when a right quantity of girls be back to work in Makati? Around 25th of April or when?
Thanks in advance for any useful reply. When girls are not here I will go to some island for the sea (Boracay or Palawan).
Hello everybody.
I am coming in Philippine from Friday 18th of April till Saturday 3rd of May.
I know is not the best time to look for girls, but these are my holydays. (Boracay or Palawan).Mate, I know other guys have given some answers in the other threads you posted on.
Makati, and Manila for that instance, is a big city and there'll still be girls looking to make some money.
Being a very religious catholic country, I've never had any girls that would prefer to go to church rather than fucking me for pesos and a free meal on a Sunday.
_ Phil.
WestCoast1
01-15-25, 15:17
Well the little birdie is back from his most-recent sojourn, making his occasional flight down P Burgos street. Fortunately he had his camera and was able to snap these pics and email them to me. Seems that Fyre and Neon Nights bars are closed again, as of Nov. 19, per the signs on the door. Stated reasons: Anti-trafficking and Revenue code violations.
Much obliged, Doc. I haven't heard from her yet.It doesn't really surprise me. When I knew of her, she wasn't really that attractive except for those magnificent hooters, but over time she seems to have gotten more attractive which is unusual for these girls.
Well the little birdie is back from his most-recent sojourn, making his occasional flight down P Burgos street. Fortunately he had his camera and was able to snap these pics and email them to me. Seems that Fyre and Neon Nights bars are closed again, as of Nov. 19, per the signs on the door. Stated reasons: Anti-trafficking and Revenue code violations.Management probably psst off the Makati city gov't and didn't grease them enough.
I find young kids / pregnant women pan handling at night yet I don't see one fu#$and city official doing anything about it.
Human Traficking? . please!
First time poster discovering this forum after I got home.
Just back from a lovely week in Makati enjoying popular tourist activities like swiping my way through pinalove, badoo and tinder.
After a while I just stayed on PL as the girls while 'different' across the apps they seemed to still be the same categories of girls. I wasn't looking for out-of-hours bargirls preferring a non-pro but also trying not to get an aspirant life partner.
I was staying in an Airbnb in Legazpi suburban area near Greenbelt 3. Plenty of interesting restaurants and activities in the area.
One office worker girl from PL chatted and flirted with me for an hour before I had to let her go (she wasn't coming over that night in spite of my efforts) . She had volunteered to do things to me which made even me blush and intended to come over the following night. Her profile did say she was chubby but when she turned up she was a little overweight but still attractive. She was good in coffee banter so before long she was back at my room. She had a healthy set of the or maybe E boobs which was quite a pleasant surprise. I did repeat with her every 2nd night for my week.
Prior to arrival I did not do any work on PL other than setup my profile. The site seems to work easier in the country and girls are keen to meet when they know you are in town. As mentioned many times in forums, no need to spend weeks or months identifying prospects.
DimesADozen12
01-24-25, 01:02
First time poster discovering this forum after I got home.
Just back from a lovely week in Makati enjoying popular tourist activities like swiping my way through pinalove, badoo and tinder.
After a while I just stayed on PL as the girls while 'different' across the apps they seemed to still be the same categories of girls. I wasn't looking for out-of-hours bargirls preferring a non-pro but also trying not to get an aspirant life partner.
I was staying in an Airbnb in Legazpi suburban area near Greenbelt 3. Plenty of interesting restaurants and activities in the area.
One office worker girl from PL chatted and flirted with me for an hour before I had to let her go (she wasn't coming over that night in spite of my efforts) . She had volunteered to do things to me which made even me blush and intended to come over the following night. Her profile did say she was chubby but when she turned up she was a little overweight but still attractive. She was good in coffee banter so before long she was back at my room. She had a healthy set of the or maybe E boobs which was quite a pleasant surprise. I did repeat with her every 2nd night for my week.
Prior to arrival I did not do any work on PL other than setup my profile. The site seems to work easier in the country and girls are keen to meet when they know you are in town. As mentioned many times in forums, no need to spend weeks or months identifying prospects.Hey Shagger, thanks for your post. I was wondering, how did you figure out which girls on PinaLove were game compared to the majority on there who are looking for actual relationships? When I go to Pattaya I have found ThaiFriendly really easy to use because I can simply ask the girls whether they are looking for a customer or relationship. From reading through the forum I'm thinking that approach may be a little too direct for some girls in the Phils and may get my PL account reported and banned.
I'm headed to Makati in a couple of weeks and will most likely use PL for the majority of my entertainment while there.
WestCoast1
01-24-25, 03:07
For you pervs out there. The little birdie made a jaunt into Lips bar off Burgos St recently. He flew upstairs and found about a dozen customers scattered, araound 70 girls, many in bikinis, and every seat taken (mostly by girls lounging). A nice dancing stage show. Hot!
The birdie then flew downstairs for another rum / coke, and was greeted by only about 12 girls, mostly fuglies in regular clothes. Two cuties in barely-there bikinis, each sitting with a different gent. One of the fellas with a bikini girl was pinoy. She was in his lap, facing away from him, stretched out nearly prone on her back in his lap, her head turned to him, nearly a constant DFK. His hands roamed freely over her torso and under the 'kini. Nobody cared. The birdie worked his are / see while chatting a saucy fugly gogo girl. Done for the night, the birdie flew back to his nest.
For you pervs, found a website that does swimwear fashion shows. You can watch dozens of hotties strutting their kini'd bods on stage. You are welcome. As per our discussion of numbering the ladies, what do these girls strike you as?
https://www.shiftswim.com/
https://www.shiftswim.com/videos/coconut-bikinis-fusion-fashion-week-miami
Senhor Bom
01-28-25, 20:44
Finally found time to write a report of my November / December trip. I spent a month in Manila, but 3 of those weeks were in Makati and based just off Burgos Street. I had a few experiences of the RLD.
My first experience of Gogo Bars on this trip was in fact thanks to my partner. We had been sitting in a Mexican bar on Burgos Street (opposite corner to Filling Station). We was in that bar for a number of hours, beyond 10 pm. She had quite a bit to drink, but during that time she was insisting that we check out what is through the black door (Dimples) on the building opposite. When we finished in the Mexican bar, my partner led the way and we went through that black door followed by a black curtain. Dimples seemed like a small Gogo bar, but had a lot of bikini-clad women (25 minimum) waiting for men. We did not stay in there for long. A woman came up to me and seemed to take offence when I asked if she was the mamasan, to which she replied "no, I'm the waitress", we soon left. I saw no men in there, but this bar felt like sardines in a can, a bit tight for space. My partner said she saw a few indian men in there, but I think I was the only guy there.
Another night I went alone into a different Gogo Bar, Iron Horse Saloon. Located opposite Makati Palace Hotel. Adhering to caution, I dodged alcohol and just drank only coke. Within a few steps of walking into the bar, the immediate attention of women became apparent and I made my way to where I wanted to be seated. There was just one other guy in there. He was getting his shoulders massaged but didn't look like he really wanted the massage. I sat down and one woman who followed me in said she was the mamasan. I wasn't entirely sure, but she seemed friendly so I made a request for the type of lady I wanted (young and skinny) and pointed out I only wanted one. Just before that I had to politely decline a few overweight women who initially came and sat beside me. She pulled a skinny lady off stage and I accepted her. She sat beside me, I bought drinks for the skinny lady and the nice lady who was saying she was the mamasan. This mamasan informed me that the skinny lady was 27 and had only been at the bar for a few days. To begin with I thought "hmmmm, sounds like a nice line being fed to me", but within 5 minutes, I suspected she was telling the truth. The mamasan had to lead the skinny lady on what to do initially, and to be honest I was more into the mamasan, but she was busy directing the play. I then realised there was a mature woman in a brown outfit watching from the opposite side of the bar. I suspect she was making signals and was the real mamasan.
After 15 to 20 minutes had passed, the lady proclaiming to be the mamasan decided to take it upon herself to introduce a new lady. Not skinny, but was meant to be 19, and looked ok. At this point I had a woman either side of me, taking turns to grind, and the first lady proclaiming to be the mamasan in front of me. I decided to go in for the kill and take one to the private area. The use of this area cost 4. 5 K, and then lady tip which was 5 K. I had wanted to take both ladies with me, but this was not allowed. Before heading to the private area, I asked to clear the drinks bill first. I bought three rounds of ladies drinks and I knew roughly the amount I had to pay. The bill they gave me was correct in my mind. Once in the private area, the skinny lady was sent away to prepare, the mamasan gave me something like 5 of 6 shots of alcohol. Initially I rejected the drinks as I thought I was about to get tricked, but she assured me the drinks were free. I did not consume the alcohol and shortly after those were placed on a table, skinny lady came in to entertain.
Once done, I thanked skinny lady for her time, left the drinks on the table and made a direct line for the exit. The lady who said she was the mamasan demanded a tip as I passed her. I laughed at that initially, but then thought "to be fair, she was very entertaining and did help with the experience". After I tipped her, I headed to the exit. The same lady stops me and introduces me to the doorman standing near the exit. I shake his hand and then realise what was coming next. The man says "I was your personal bodyguard tonight", to which I smiled and said "I never saw you". I knew what he wanted, and I know I should not do this, but I recall giving him 100-200 php to leave me be. As I pass through the exit, the other fellas wanted money "hey sir! As I walked away one was following me down the street for a brief moment until I got near Burgos Street.
A week later I head out to go into Ringside Bar, but to no avail. I arrive too early, so the doorman invites me into Bottoms. I decide to go inside as I recall Bottoms was meant to be a popular bar before 2020. I enter Bottoms, and appreciate 7. 30 pm (ish) is probably a bit early for a Gogo bar, but I'm in there now and I buy a drink of coke. The few ladies on stage are standing still bored, the ladies sitting down seemed to have been caught by surprise. They slowly get off their seat and straight away this feels like a regret already. I pick the first half-decent lady that comes into my line of sight and she sits down with me. I buy her one drink and we talk briefly. A couple of ladies ask if I want my shoulders massaged. Recalling the customer from Iron Horse Saloon, I reply "no thanks". The three ladies on stage are still not dancing at this point. Bottoms was not what I expected. Looked like it could be a fun place, but on the inside there was no life, perhaps it was too early. I asked who the mamasan was, and she comes over. I discuss the BF and tips arrangement. Again, I end up liking the mamasan more that the woman I had chosen. There was something about that mamasan that made me want BF her instead. I give her 500 php, as I thought I'd try and find her again another night if I get the opportunity and perhaps sit down with her. I wouldn't get that opportunity.
The BF was about 3. 8 K to 4 k (I forget) and I gave the lady 5 K. On this I should have negotiated it down, but I decided to play along. The lady seemed nice in general, but I later realise at the ST hotel nearby, everything about her was pulled in tight. I decide not to keep her with me and let her go within an hour. The ST hotel we were at was fine but a bit expensive for the limited time we used it for.
Iron Horse Saloon can be considered a one-stop shop. Next time it will be my final destination of choice. Just accept blatent shakedowns are likely, not sure if this is common in many Gogo bars.
Bottoms is the opposite. It could be a place to stop off at along the street, but not one to spend considerable amount of time in and I'm pretty sure better options are available. I also got the impression, from the lady I took to the ST hotel, that Bottoms is rarely busy. That said, the mamasan said it was usually busy around midnight. Take that as you will.
First time poster discovering this forum after I got home.
Just back from a lovely week in Makati enjoying popular tourist activities like swiping my way through pinalove, badoo and tinder.
After a while I just stayed on PL as the girls while 'different' across the apps they seemed to still be the same categories of girls. I wasn't looking for out-of-hours bargirls preferring a non-pro but also trying not to get an aspirant life partner.
I was staying in an Airbnb in Legazpi suburban area near Greenbelt 3. Plenty of interesting restaurants and activities in the area.
One office worker girl from PL chatted and flirted with me for an hour before I had to let her go (she wasn't coming over that night in spite of my efforts) . She had volunteered to do things to me which made even me blush and intended to come over the following night. Her profile did say she was chubby but when she turned up she was a little overweight but still attractive. She was good in coffee banter so before long she was back at my room. She had a healthy set of the or maybe E boobs which was quite a pleasant surprise. I did repeat with her every 2nd night for my week.
Prior to arrival I did not do any work on PL other than setup my profile. The site seems to work easier in the country and girls are keen to meet when they know you are in town. As mentioned many times in forums, no need to spend weeks or months identifying prospects.Hi Sorry new to this forum, what app is PL? Thanks!
WestCoast1
01-31-25, 01:08
Finally found time to write a report of my November / December trip. I spent a month in Manila, but 3 of those weeks were in Makati and based just off Burgos Street. I had a few experiences of the RLD.
My first experience of Gogo Bars on this trip was in fact thanks to my partner.'Nuther good descriptive report. Newbs take note.
Around midnight the little birdie had a chance recently to fly down Burgos St, then fly up and into Lollipop gogo bar (above Par Avion). Using the door guards like an ILS / glideslope beacon, birdie navigated his way upstairs to find exactly 12 girls, 1 mama. 8 of the 12 were fuglies. No kidding, birdie says one of them appeared to be 45-50 yo. OTOH there were 4 lookers. On stage were two PHAT dancers (birdie had a hard time watching it). A bit later as birdie was working his drink, one of the chubs came off stage and one of the lookers took the stage. What a pleasant relief. The looker had an impressive figure, flat tummy with no roadmap, lovely face and hair. Mid-20's. Birdie could not quite make out her cup size: Large B?, Small C? Birdie considered her an "8".
The vibe is chill. The mama tried pushing a tiny young cutie in birdie's lap but birdie declined, thinking the cutie appeared too young to be working in such establishment. Birdie believes the drink was p190, but birdie was a bit inebriated at the time and can't be sure. Birdie was the only customer.
Navigating his way out, birdie poked his head in the door of Par Avion and saw no customers. On his quick departure out a group of 3 foreigners passed birdie and walked in to Par Avion. Birdie stopped for a moment to chat with the door guards outside, and he was passed quickly by the same 3 foreigners on their way out. Apparently they didn't care for the vibe.
Not sure if he was inebriated enough, birdie flew up the street and poked his beak into Lips downstairs. Same slow scene as a few nights prior, with similar average-looking gals (a distinct difference with the lookers upstairs). At that point birdie knew his inebriation was at the appropriate level for the evening and he flew home to his Makati nest. "A bird's got to know his limitations" -- Dirty Harry.
Well done, birdie, well done.
Hey Shagger, thanks for your post. I was wondering, how did you figure out which girls on PinaLove were game compared to the majority on there who are looking for actual relationships? When I go to Pattaya I have found ThaiFriendly really easy to use because I can simply ask the girls whether they are looking for a customer or relationship. From reading through the forum I'm thinking that approach may be a little too direct for some girls in the Phils and may get my PL account reported and banned.
I'm headed to Makati in a couple of weeks and will most likely use PL for the majority of my entertainment while there.I find from the conversation that the professional girls will too quickly put in "let's meet, can we meet, where do you stay?" whereas a regular girl will be a little more cautious. That being said it's still 'normal' to meet girls within a few hours of connecting on Pinalove.
On one Friday afternoon I just send a few messages on badoo, "Would you like to hang out tonight?" Had a beautiful (out of my league) office worker meet me after her work for drinks, dinner and cuddles. Unfortunately that one ended in a promise for my next trip.
So, in Pinalove you will find your own categories for girls. The money girls, the serious, the fun, the settlers.
My Ph strategy is multi-pronged. Pinalove is good but so is just being out and about. 7-11's, jeepney, Greenbelt 3, MOA, breakfast waitress. Just go about and do your stuff.
I don't get to post on here much. That's because even though I have lived now within a stone's throw of Burgos St for a few years, work and family obligations limit me to very specific time windows where I can indulge in such pleasures, often only every few months or so. I had such a window this evening, and was getting tired of spending my hard-earned dineros on mediocre Burgos St bargirl interactions, overpriced lady drinks and questionable outcomes in terms of results. So, I decided to try Pinalove for the first time.
Call me a slow learner.
There is a lot of chaff to separate from the wheat, but my God, post the right photos and profile info and you will get interest like you could not imagine. I was very clear in my profile info that I was not interested in anything serious and was looking for "fun times" and no commitment. Over the span of only a couple of days, I was bombarded with an enormous quantity of "interests" (Facebook equivalent of likes? Requests for Whatsapp numbers and direct messages asking if I wanted fun for benefits, or some such other configuration of P4 P. Only responded to the lookers, and already tripled my rolodex from previous years.
One was very direct this morning, asked if I was in Makati and could meet today. Exchanged Whastapp numbers and I told her. This was around 3:00 pm. If she could meet me for short time at the Makati Sogo at 5:00 pm I would tip her 5 k (don't hate on me for this. Time is at a premium for me and that's peanuts compared to what you get with combo barfine and extras with Burgos St girls!) She agreed, told me she needed to change out of her uniform and would be on the way shortly. I was skeptical.
Low and behold, turns out she was a cashier at an SM mall down in Las Pinas and was telling the truth, was in a cab within 15 minutes of our conversation and had sent me grab tracking information to show she was on her way. 20 year old spinner, no kids, absolute stunner (I know, beauty is in the eye of the beholder but really, she was an 8 in my books), sending me pictures of her in the cab while she was on the way up to Makati. I grabbed a couple of beers around the corner waiting for her to arrive. She was late of course, but because of Manila traffic not anything else.
Right before she arrived, she messaged me "bring lots of condoms". I responded that I was clean and that this was not a concern for me, should I be concerned for her? After a bunch of back and forth she basically said she never has sex without protection. I told her fine, you're only 5 minutes away, just let me know when you arrive.
When she arrived, I immediately recognized her. Really even better looking than her pictures on PL and really dolled up in a tight dress, great makeup and high heels. And approached her with the 5 K promised and just handed it to her saying "I'm sorry you made the trip all the way up here, and we had a misunderstanding about protection and boundaries, and that's OK, I want you to be comfortable with whatever we do" (what a gentleman eh? - joking aside, I find that just treating everyone. And I mean everyone, e. G. Bargirls, security guards, kuyas on the side of the road gets you a long way in life.) She was incredibly shy, said almost nothing in response and walked away after I patted her on the shoulder.
After handing her the money I went for a beer in Rogues right next door assuming the night was over. But she texted me shortly afterwards asking things like "did I do something wrong" or "are you mad with me"? I responded saying no of course not, nothing was her fault, I just can't finish if condoms are involved and at that point it's not worth it, but I hoped she had a good evening. By my second SML at the bar she was texting me that it was fine, she wanted, she would "buy some pills" (not quite sure what that means) and that she was waiting at a nearby 7-11 for me to pick her up. Chugged my beer and happily obliged.
We met up again a few minutes later, hopped up to a "premium" (sarcastic speech marks intentional) room and before you could say Bob's your uncle we were doing the nasty and, it was sensational.
Because she had seemed nervous I went in slowly, first caressing her body and kissing her neck, ear lobes, stuff like that. She was moaning almost immediately. Taking my time with that, I eventually offered to go down and she whimpered "yes please", at which point I dutifully obliged. Every man likes to toot their own horn, but I *think* I am pretty good at DATY and she went nuts over it. She kept saying it was the first time someone had ever done that for her. True or not, it turned me on! My face and hand were drenched and I was worried the amount of noise she was making would get us in trouble with the hotel admin. Anyway, after enough of this and apparently an orgasm or two (I know a faked orgasm pretty sure this wasn't the case here), she starts grappling for my cock and, seeing that I'm not hard yet (been working too hard the other way), immediately flips over and starts the BJ.
I'm hard pretty quickly, and what follows is 3 hours of fucking, kissing, caressing, pillow talk, repeat and repeat until I glance over at the clock and realize our short time room is almost over and needed to bounce. We rinsed off (there was a lot of juice), dressed, and parted with a promise to do it again as soon as possible. Put her in a taxi with an extra tip.
Sorry for the romance novel but thought some here might enjoy LOL.
BTW. Take doxy PrEP, like I did, helps everyone!
"buy some pills" Nice detailed report. Everyone has fun on Pinalove.
These girls think that buying contraceptive pills will immediately solve their contraception need. I'm not even sure if they know they need to take them. Like always in Ph sex education is a mystery.
With these 20 year olds I always take responsibility for the contraception as I don't want to ruin her and my life with an unexpected pregnancy. They have no idea how their body works an dyou demonstrate they will agree to anything for money.
Nice detailed report. Everyone has fun on Pinalove.
These girls think that buying contraceptive pills will immediately solve their contraception need. I'm not even sure if they know they need to take them. Like always in Ph sex education is a mystery.
With these 20 year olds I always take responsibility for the contraception as I don't want to ruin her and my life with an unexpected pregnancy. They have no idea how their body works an dyou demonstrate they will agree to anything for money.Very fair point and not something I had automatically thought of. Probably indicative of my inexperience. Either way I usually can't finish anyway (like to convince myself it must be something to do with our dopamine-fueled modern existence) and just enjoy the experience. Was the same with this beauty. So I don't think any harm was done.
VictorHugo99
02-06-25, 15:16
Hi I182,
Thanks for the detailed FR.
Glad you had a great ROI for te spent on PL.
Victor.
Trevor2522
02-06-25, 18:53
One was very direct this morning, asked if I was in Makati and could meet today. If she could meet me for short time at the Makati Sogo at 5:00 pm I would tip her 5k (don't hate on me for this. She agreed, told me she needed to change out of her uniform and would be on the way shortly. Lo and behold, turns out she was a cashier at an SM mall down in Las Pinas.Great hookup; thanks for sharing. Las Pinas is a 15 Km haul north to Makati. She only need turn 3 or 4 tricks a month to give up the day job! https://ph.indeed.com/cmp/Sm-Department-Store/salaries?__cf_chl_tk=VBoGU_S2KH8gIaurt1c7li4q37EcrxajyX8zVpdgTg4-1738862291-1.0.1.1-mrx9CRp.h6PeQ6OglNflvilsnuxMnzL_uDDFy6ddRXc
₱5,000 is a bit steep for 3 hours, but acceptable considering the distance and satisfaction quotient. Her 'pills' would have been the emergency, 'morning-after' type, not taking daily contraceptive tablets.
Rather an odd M.O. to give her the money first, then retire to a bar; some ladies would have just run off! If a guy explains that he is clean and has had the snip (or she takes the morning-after pill), the 'condom-barrier' can be breached, amicably. Glad to hear your tryst worked out well and that nice salesgirls are putting out in that way.
Great hookup; thanks for sharing. Las Pinas is a 15 Km haul north to Makati. She only need turn 3 or 4 tricks a month to give up the day job! https://ph.indeed.com/cmp/Sm-Department-Store/salaries?__cf_chl_tk=VBoGU_S2KH8gIaurt1c7li4q37EcrxajyX8zVpdgTg4-1738862291-1.0.1.1-mrx9CRp.h6PeQ6OglNflvilsnuxMnzL_uDDFy6ddRXc
₱5,000 is a bit steep for 3 hours, but acceptable considering the distance and satisfaction quotient. Her 'pills' would have been the emergency, 'morning-after' type, not taking daily contraceptive tablets.
Rather an odd M.O. to give her the money first, then retire to a bar; some ladies would have just run off! If a guy explains that he is clean and has had the snip (or she takes the morning-after pill), the 'condom-barrier' can be breached, amicably. Glad to hear your tryst worked out well and that nice salesgirls are putting out in that way.Had no idea the morning after was sold over the counter.
Had no idea the morning after was sold over the counter.They are banned and illegal in PH. They use a different concoction of pills for the same effect as I have been told.
Always bring some Plan be pills with you.
FuriousGeorge
02-07-25, 07:36
I like your style. It's what I would do. Condoms are a non-starter. That's why I go specifically to PH. I'm going to guess that most reading this post are in a certain demo, and that demo should get a vasectomy. I think for me it was a 10 dollar co-pay. If the girl has hesitations, and you say 'cut', 'snipped', or otherwise explain it, all concerns fade away. I recently stayed a month in AC and loved every second of it. Brought 8 condoms and left with 8. Your final comment is legit. I'm clean as a whistle. I'm too bummed out currently being back at work and the land of responsibility, but maybe soon I'll put together a proper report.
BTW. Take doxy PrEP, like I did, helps everyone!
Day 4 last day. Thought I would try something different today, so I opened up smooci to see what was available. I could have sworn in the past, smooci Manila was full of agency girls with just a couple of independents, but I guess there must have been a policy change since almost everyone was independent. Most prices were reasonable too, between 3 k to 5 k, with one or two asking for 20 k (wtf LOL). I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw a 21 year old verified independent with a high rating only asking for 3. 5 k, so I pulled the trigger for a meeting 1. 5 hours from now. Surprisingly, I get a call from the front desk within 5 minutes of the arranged time saying I have a visitor.
I open my door and a gorgeous shortie is standing there in a flowing dress. She seemed surprised at my appearance as well, gave a giggle, and started getting ready. I took a quick rinse after her, and joined her in bed not long after. I wanted to start out with cuddling again, and she obliged no problem. I went to DATY next, and she was either great at acting or I found all the right spots. Her reactions were so hot that I spent a good amount of time down here, and soon she was trembling, visible wet, and had some sweat around her neck. I asked her to get on top, she asked about condom, and I casually dismissed that thought by saying "I tip". She shrugged and started riding me like a good girl, switched to doggie next. I enjoyed seeing the sweat glisten off her damp back, makes me think I'm doing something right, and flipped her over to finish in mish again. Loved it when I asked can I cum inside and she gives a shy nod and smile. It was only after we cleaned up and dressed up when she asked for payment, which I thought with smooci usually happened first thing. I gave her 4 k for the great performance plus no condom, and she looked surprised but grateful. This was a great way to round off my Philippines trip, hopefully I can squeeze some time to be back in the near future instead of waiting 5 or more years!
Also I didn't know the board limited picture to 648 x648 pixels, so sorry for bad quality.Did her name start with L? Did she have a disability? Any specific tattoos you remember? My heart is racing and you can probably guess why. Please send me a message or reply. I made this account just to get in contact with you.
Key Master
02-08-25, 07:15
Had no idea the morning after was sold over the counter.My guess is she bought the birth control Trust and popped it they're so cheap. Think they take it daily versus the Diana or whatever it's called. I don't think she went and got the day after stuff. Think that is more behind the closed door type deals to purchase something like that.
DimesADozen12
02-09-25, 06:15
I don't get to post on here much. That's because even though I have lived now within a stone's throw of Burgos St for a few years, work and family obligations limit me to very specific time windows where I can indulge in such pleasures, often only every few months or so. I had such a window this evening, and was getting tired of spending my hard-earned dineros on mediocre Burgos St bargirl interactions, overpriced lady drinks and questionable outcomes in terms of results. So, I decided to try Pinalove for the first time.
Call me a slow learner.
There is a lot of chaff to separate from the wheat, but my God, post the right photos and profile info and you will get interest like you could not imagine. I was very clear in my profile info that I was not interested in anything serious and was looking for "fun times" and no commitment. Over the span of only a couple of days, I was bombarded with an enormous quantity of "interests" (Facebook equivalent of likes? Requests for Whatsapp numbers and direct messages asking if I wanted fun for benefits, or some such other configuration of P4 P. Only responded to the lookers, and already tripled my rolodex from previous years.
One was very direct this morning, asked if I was in Makati and could meet today. Exchanged Whastapp numbers and I told her. This was around 3:00 pm. If she could meet me for short time at the Makati Sogo at 5:00 pm I would tip her 5 k (don't hate on me for this. Time is at a premium for me and that's peanuts compared to what you get with combo barfine and extras with Burgos St girls!) She agreed, told me she needed to change out of her uniform and would be on the way shortly. I was skeptical.
Low and behold, turns out she was a cashier at an SM mall down in Las Pinas and was telling the truth, was in a cab within 15 minutes of our conversation and had sent me grab tracking information to show she was on her way. 20 year old spinner, no kids, absolute stunner (I know, beauty is in the eye of the beholder but really, she was an 8 in my books), sending me pictures of her in the cab while she was on the way up to Makati. I grabbed a couple of beers around the corner waiting for her to arrive. She was late of course, but because of Manila traffic not anything else.
Right before she arrived, she messaged me "bring lots of condoms". I responded that I was clean and that this was not a concern for me, should I be concerned for her? After a bunch of back and forth she basically said she never has sex without protection. I told her fine, you're only 5 minutes away, just let me know when you arrive.
When she arrived, I immediately recognized her. Really even better looking than her pictures on PL and really dolled up in a tight dress, great makeup and high heels. And approached her with the 5 K promised and just handed it to her saying "I'm sorry you made the trip all the way up here, and we had a misunderstanding about protection and boundaries, and that's OK, I want you to be comfortable with whatever we do" (what a gentleman eh? - joking aside, I find that just treating everyone. And I mean everyone, e. G. Bargirls, security guards, kuyas on the side of the road gets you a long way in life.) She was incredibly shy, said almost nothing in response and walked away after I patted her on the shoulder.
After handing her the money I went for a beer in Rogues right next door assuming the night was over. But she texted me shortly afterwards asking things like "did I do something wrong" or "are you mad with me"? I responded saying no of course not, nothing was her fault, I just can't finish if condoms are involved and at that point it's not worth it, but I hoped she had a good evening. By my second SML at the bar she was texting me that it was fine, she wanted, she would "buy some pills" (not quite sure what that means) and that she was waiting at a nearby 7-11 for me to pick her up. Chugged my beer and happily obliged.
We met up again a few minutes later, hopped up to a "premium" (sarcastic speech marks intentional) room and before you could say Bob's your uncle we were doing the nasty and, it was sensational.
Because she had seemed nervous I went in slowly, first caressing her body and kissing her neck, ear lobes, stuff like that. She was moaning almost immediately. Taking my time with that, I eventually offered to go down and she whimpered "yes please", at which point I dutifully obliged. Every man likes to toot their own horn, but I *think* I am pretty good at DATY and she went nuts over it. She kept saying it was the first time someone had ever done that for her. True or not, it turned me on! My face and hand were drenched and I was worried the amount of noise she was making would get us in trouble with the hotel admin. Anyway, after enough of this and apparently an orgasm or two (I know a faked orgasm pretty sure this wasn't the case here), she starts grappling for my cock and, seeing that I'm not hard yet (been working too hard the other way), immediately flips over and starts the BJ.
I'm hard pretty quickly, and what follows is 3 hours of fucking, kissing, caressing, pillow talk, repeat and repeat until I glance over at the clock and realize our short time room is almost over and needed to bounce. We rinsed off (there was a lot of juice), dressed, and parted with a promise to do it again as soon as possible. Put her in a taxi with an extra tip.
Sorry for the romance novel but thought some here might enjoy LOL.
BTW. Take doxy PrEP, like I did, helps everyone!Thanks I182 for the report. I'll be visiting next week staying at Makati Palace. In regards to securing doxy prep while there, should I just ask the pharmacies around the hotel and eventually I should be able to find one will sell it to me without a prescription?
WestCoast1
02-10-25, 00:50
Little Birdie update. Birdie recently made his way down Caseres street, between P Burgos and Polaris Sts, into Iron Horse gogo bar. Full house of gogo girls, approximately 35-40. About a dozen fugs, and Birdie thought the rest were do-able, with a handful of real lookers. Only 3 customers total around 10 pm. Birdie was quickly surrounded by half a dozen cuties, but asked the mama to shoo them away so Birdie could scope talent. Few minutes later the mama pointed out a new gal fresh in from the province. Birdie called her over for a LD (p480). Early 20's, no baby damage showing from the tiny bikini she was wearing, rock solid flat tummy. Birdie's feathered wing made it to her bikini'd breast, then inside the 'kini. Birdie feathered over her nice C-cup chesticles repeatedly. Young talent's hands roamed over Birdie's nether-regions. Must give young talent some credit for her bubbly style and energy, including jumping up to dance nawty briefly in front of Birdie's table. Young talent unfortunately never shut up, so after 10 minutes of chatter it was one-drink-and-out as Birdie called for the bill and navigated his way back to Burgos for some further pervin'.
Downside: Young talent waited about 1 minute after her LD arrival to down the tequila shot. One minute later a waitress zero'd in on the empty glass and attempted to quick-sell Birdie on another LD, which was declined. One minute later the mama tried the same tactic (also declined; Birdie was not yet drunk enough to fall for such). Shortly after a waitress tried again. The aggressive move to up-sell overpriced drinks continues.
Thanks I182 for the report. I'll be visiting next week staying at Makati Palace. In regards to securing doxy prep while there, should I just ask the pharmacies around the hotel and eventually I should be able to find one will sell it to me without a prescription?That's one strategy, possibly time consuming and potentially fruitless. Someone else might tell you that a legitimate-looking scrip template downloaded online, filled out with the desired prescription, some doctor's name, some kind of signature and pdf'ed, saved / emailed to your phone and then flashed to the pharmacy attendee for provision of the desired chemical substance to be paid for in cash would work equally well in the Phils. I would never engage, nor condone engaging, in such behavior, however.
Hey from the states. It's my first time here and I'll be staying at City Garden Makati right next to P Burgos st. Tomorrow. I don't mind paying a bit more for Bar fines and such after scoping around.
I just wanted to know of any of ya'll had any girl recommendations that meet my preference. I like them cute, skinny and petite. Breast's size can be any, same with ass just has to be a delectable pussy because I ALWAYS go down on delicious poonani. Condoms are a non starter. Not a deal breaker but I would prefer her to be a tanned caramel brown if possible.
Feel free to pm me and thanks in advance fellow Pinay loving perverts!
WestCoast1
02-14-25, 22:10
Hey from the states. It's my first time here and I'll be staying at City Garden Makati right next to P Burgos st. Tomorrow. I don't mind paying a bit more for Bar fines and such after scoping around.
I just wanted to know of any of ya'll had any girl recommendations that meet my preference. I like them cute, skinny and petite. Breast's size can be any, same with ass just has to be a delectable pussy because I ALWAYS go down on delicious poonani. Condoms are a non starter. Not a deal breaker but I would prefer her to be a tanned caramel brown if possible.
Feel free to pm me and thanks in advance fellow Pinay loving perverts!You don't have PM capability; see pics. Pay up for a membership ($20) to get access to PM.
However any of the gogo bars along Burgos should be able to fit your needs. Enjoy, and write us a trip report later.
WC.
ThomasCasey
02-16-25, 02:54
Hey from the states. It's my first time here and I'll be staying at City Garden Makati right next to P Burgos st. Tomorrow. I don't mind paying a bit more for Bar fines and such after scoping around.
I just wanted to know of any of ya'll had any girl recommendations that meet my preference. I like them cute, skinny and petite. Breast's size can be any, same with ass just has to be a delectable pussy because I ALWAYS go down on delicious poonani. Condoms are a non starter. Not a deal breaker but I would prefer her to be a tanned caramel brown if possible.
Feel free to pm me and thanks in advance fellow Pinay loving perverts!I'll be in town from Feb 21 to March 3. Meeting up with a regular that will fly in from Cebu for a few days, however I'm happy to explore some night life with you. I'm a regular to the Phils, although not as well versed in MNL besides what I've read here. If anyone else is in town and wants to go to a gogo or club, let me know. Open invitation. I'm from the States, easy going, mid 40's.
DimesADozen12
02-18-25, 16:56
I arrived last night and immediately checked into Makati Palace. Too tired to go out so I rested to be ready for the first full day. For this trip I primarily plan on using PinaLove (PL) to find freelancers. The fact that bar fines here are sometimes equal to what the girl asks for is just so off putting for me that out of my own stubbornness I don't really want to chase in the bars like I might if I were in Tijuana or Soi 6.
After waking up I started messaging girls on PL and started to receive some replies. As one might expect the number of replies and "likes" that my profile received started increasing as the day went on. I was chatting with a decently cute 25 year old and during dinner decided to pull the trigger and invite her for a drink and then back to my room. She accepted and surprisingly arrived on time at 10:30 pm. Pictures were fairly accurate no complaints on that front. We went to a bar just around the corner from Iron Horse Saloon. Don't remember the name but it was almost exclusively filled with foreigners. After we each had a beer we made it back to the hotel and they had the girl sign a waiver. They then told me that I'the need to sign the waiver after we finished so that she could leave. Interesting system but no complaints on my end.
Unfortunately, the remainder of the visit didn't pan out well. Once we got in the room and she grabbed my dick she immediately asked me if I had a condom. I was surprised because that was one of the last things I expected to hear in the Philippines. I said that I could pull out if necessary and she flat out demanded that a condom be used or we would not proceed. I knew at this point that this session would be a dud. I can almost never cum using a condom and the change in her demeanor was so off putting that it was almost useless to proceed. Needless to say we tried and when I couldn't cum she was actually upset. She demanded to know why and I said it was because I can't go using a condom. This further bothered her and she started rapidly firing off in Tagalog. We hadn't negotiated a price so I paid 2. 5, signed the waiver that the hotel provided, and told her to leave. She said that she'the have her friend reach out to me and I said that wasn't necessary.
Frustrating start to my trip, but I know that you win some and lose some. Going forward I think I'm going to make it clear once I move from PL to WhatsApp or Telegram that fun needs to be without a condom or else we won't proceed. Things have really picked up on the app starting around 10 pm so I have some leads for tomorrow. Will provide further updates for fellow mongerers who are also looking to use PL for freelancers.
Onto the next one.
I arrived last night and immediately checked into Makati Palace. Too tired to go out so I rested to be ready for the first full day. For this trip I primarily plan on using PinaLove (PL) to find freelancers. The fact that bar fines here are sometimes equal to what the girl asks for is just so off putting for me that out of my own stubbornness I don't really want to chase in the bars like I might if I were in Tijuana or Soi 6.
After waking up I started messaging girls on PL and started to receive some replies. As one might expect the number of replies and "likes" that my profile received started increasing as the day went on. I was chatting with a decently cute 25 year old and during dinner decided to pull the trigger and invite her for a drink and then back to my room. She accepted and surprisingly arrived on time at 10:30 pm. Pictures were fairly accurate no complaints on that front. We went to a bar just around the corner from Iron Horse Saloon. Don't remember the name but it was almost exclusively filled with foreigners. After we each had a beer we made it back to the hotel and they had the girl sign a waiver. They then told me that I'the need to sign the waiver after we finished so that she could leave. Interesting system but no complaints on my end.
Unfortunately, the remainder of the visit didn't pan out well. Once we got in the room and she grabbed my dick she immediately asked me if I had a condom. I was surprised because that was one of the last things I expected to hear in the Philippines. I said that I could pull out if necessary and she flat out demanded that a condom be used or we would not proceed. I knew at this point that this session would be a dud. I can almost never cum using a condom and the change in her demeanor was so off putting that it was almost useless to proceed. Needless to say we tried and when I couldn't cum she was actually upset. She demanded to know why and I said it was because I can't go using a condom. This further bothered her and she started rapidly firing off in Tagalog. We hadn't negotiated a price so I paid 2. 5, signed the waiver that the hotel provided, and told her to leave. She said that she'the have her friend reach out to me and I said that wasn't necessary.
Frustrating start to my trip, but I know that you win some and lose some. Going forward I think I'm going to make it clear once I move from PL to WhatsApp or Telegram that fun needs to be without a condom or else we won't proceed. Things have really picked up on the app starting around 10 pm so I have some leads for tomorrow. Will provide further updates for fellow mongerers who are also looking to use PL for freelancers.
Onto the next one.I've certainly run into this situation. I always try to then finish with a BBBJ. My experience has been that most filipinas have had a little experience in giving BJs. Just a thought, I know you wanted to have the main course, but I am seeing alot of girls now insist on condoms. It wasn't like that 20 years ago.
Good luck.
I am seeing alot of girls now insist on condoms. It wasn't like that 20 years ago.
Good luck.I'm not sure if it's a sign of the times or a formal Public Health campaign but girls are now a lot more aware of STD risks. Previously, condom use was to avoid pregnancy and the chance of having a half white kid wasn't a great concern. Now the reason for condom use is avoiding infection.
Birdie's feathered wing made it to her bikini'd breast, then inside the 'kini. Birdie feathered over her nice C-cup chesticles repeatedly. Young talent's hands roamed over Birdie's nether-regions. Must give young talent some credit for her bubbly style and energy, including jumping up to dance nawty briefly in front of Birdie's table. Young talent unfortunately never shut up, so after 10 minutes of chatter it was one-drink-and-out as Birdie called for the bill and navigated his way back to Burgos for some further pervin'.
Downside: Young talent waited about 1 minute after her LD arrival to down the tequila shot. One minute later a waitress zero'd in on the empty glass and attempted to quick-sell Birdie on another LD, which was declined. One minute later the mama tried the same tactic (also declined; Birdie was not yet drunk enough to fall for such). Shortly after a waitress tried again. The aggressive move to up-sell overpriced drinks continues.Jeez Westie, Birdie's a bit of a talent with the girls and obviously offers some great advice. Exactly my point regarding the LD's.
Call me a Cheap Charlie, but when you factor into accommodation, costs getting to The Phils in the first place, and still paying bills at home while you're away, some of us 'frequent flyers' have worked out there's other directions to take aside from the typical bar scene.
And contact relationships that are definitely more personal.
For the newcomers to this forum and The Phils, go and have a blast at the girly bars!
And for the the guys that are regular girly bar patrons, you obviously love the scene, and as it works for you, enjoy the hell out of it time and time again.
It's just from experience, other options have worked out a lot better and cheaper for me.
It's always a learning experience and will continue to be so for all.
_ Phil.
It's just from experience, other options have worked out a lot better and cheaper for me.
It's always a learning experience and will continue to be so for all. FWIW Phil. I have been living (and working) in the PH for 28 years now and for the first 5 years I was a Burgos regular. Visits steadily declined in subsequent years.
Fast forward to now.
I have not been into a Burgos (or any other Makati) bar since the COVID era because, to quote you, "from experience, other options have worked out a lot better and cheaper for me ".
Transporter
02-25-25, 00:08
FWIW Phil. I have been living (and working) in the PH for 28 years now and for the first 5 years I was a Burgos regular. Visits steadily declined in subsequent years. Fast forward to now. I have not been into a Burgos (or any other Makati) bar since the COVID era because, to quote you, "from experience, other options have worked out a lot better and cheaper for me ".I'm right there with ya all, haven't been seeking in burgos for over 15 years, and haven't made AC a destination for over 10 years now. There are just so much much more out there, that its no longer on any list. However, it does serve a purpose as it once did me.
I'm right there with ya all, haven't been seeking in burgos for over 15 years, and haven't made AC a destination for over 10 years now. There are just so much much more out there, that its no longer on any list. However, it does serve a purpose as it once did me.Absolutely Tran's.
I've found that gathering direct contact details with your girl of choice can make for a lot of more personal interactions moving forward. Only today I got a random FB message from an old contact I met in AC over a year ago (and not a bar girl) although she's now working as a 'waitress' in AC.
I've advised her that on my impeding business trip, I might be able to fit her in to my schedule in Manila. It definitely helps to find the decent ones from your time in notable mongering arenas and grab hold of their contact details so you can arrange meetings off-site.
To me it's all about building personal relationships. Sure, they'll want their rewards but you are in control of the situation, as opposed to a Mama being involved and a greedy bar owner.
FWIW Phil. I have been living (and working) in the PH for 28 years now and for the first 5 years I was a Burgos regular. Visits steadily declined in subsequent years.
Fast forward to now. I have not been into a Burgos (or any other Makati) bar since the COVID era because, to quote you, "from experience, other options have worked out a lot better and cheaper for me ".Agree with you Kilt _ In my opinion, the bar scene has become a rort as such. Sure, it's a great way to meet some girls that want to play in their own time, but that seems to be few and far between. I suppose it all comes down to the experience of playing the game. Personally, I've managed to build more of a personal relationship with quite a few a girls, as opposed to a purely sexual relationship.
It definitely helps to have some pussy lined up in advance, rather than going out on the the hunt.
Sure, some will get back to you demanding money for their family or kids you've never met, but if you 'put your foot down' from the outset, and name your 'terms and conditions', they can take it or leave it.
For the new guys on the forum, just enjoy yourself, and all this other shit can be taken care of once you've been hooked on some Filipina pussy.
_Phil.
Hi Guys,
I tried to post a few nights ago but after writing a whole load of info, everything disappeared on me so here we go again.
The Subic adventure was worth it's while, but as mentioned, I was restricted by my work commitments and some emergency dental work.
(Heads up to everyone. If ever you need work done on your teeth, do it in The Phils. All for under $100 compared to $700 at home. And some cute dental nurses as well).
So I was back in Makati last night and had a visit from Ashley who I'd lined up previously via the hotel security guard a year or so ago. Now Ashley was a little bit chunky this time around, but it was worth it.
(What's with these Filipinas thinking they can bring a small bottle of baby oil into your room and then thinking they're a pro-masseuse?
So it was like, "Ashley, no need for that bullshit".
Anyway, we had a good shower and then it was on.
I wasn't really in the mood for a long time gig, so when she said "I'll need some money" I slipped 3000 p into her handbag and she was happily on her way home.
I'm now in Boracay solo for a few days. There's looking to be a bit of action here (apart from the baklas) and I'll report on it in the other forums.
I'll be back to Makati later this week and have already lined up a girl I met on Blow Row in Angeles last year. She'll be popping down to do some freelance work for me.
(To all the new guys, I can't stress how much that keeping in touch with any contacts you make can assist you in future visits. Sure, many will constantly be hitting you up for cash from abroad when you get back home, but just politely say no. But as soon as they know you're back in The Phils with a wallet full of cash, they be onto you like flies on shit).
Just my experience _ Phil.
Transporter
03-09-25, 00:19
(To all the new guys, I can't stress how much that keeping in touch with any contacts you make can assist you in future visits. Sure, many will constantly be hitting you up for cash from abroad when you get back home, but just politely say no. But as soon as they know you're back in The Phils with a wallet full of cash, they be onto you like flies on shit).
Just my experience _ Phil.Pretty much SOP. My FB pretty much stays dormant while I am away, but as soon as I touchdown and jump in a cab, I am snapping pictures of Manila and post to my FB (check in). By the time I get to my accommodations, my messenger is blowing up. Even when I travel in the PI, as soon as I land or make it to the next bus terminal in a city I post a pic of the airport that I land in or a famous city landmark and in no time my messenger is pinging me. If you can't find a pic of something special, when you use check in just post the map of where you are and its pretty much automation. I don't know how the logarithms work in FB, but I think the location you are in has an effect on other people in the same area and suggest friends to them based on your groups and interests inside of FB? So look at your friend request, because a lot of the request will probably be new potentials (provided that is what you were looking at and searching for in FB). Oh and it also works 2 fold as you will also be suggested to other people who are interested in the same things on FB.
Old And Ugly
03-09-25, 03:37
Hi Guys,
I tried to post a few nights ago but after writing a whole load of info, everything disappeared on me so here we go again.
The Subic adventure was worth it's while, but as mentioned, I was restricted by my work commitments and some emergency dental work.
(Heads up to everyone. If ever you need work done on your teeth, do it in The Phils. All for under $100 compared to $700 at home. And some cute dental nurses as well).
So I was back in Makati last night and had a visit from Ashley who I'd lined up previously via the hotel security guard a year or so ago. Now Ashley was a little bit chunky this time around, but it was worth it.
(What's with these Filipinas thinking they can bring a small bottle of baby oil into your room and then thinking they're a pro-masseuse?.Go to 7/11 on the white beach and ask around for Bob Marley, he's darker, but doesn't look like Bob Marley, and always wears a hat, if he still around, for a few hundred peso will take you to the place with cheap honey. If he's not around anymore, ask other locals that you see hanging around there, or a trike driver, they know the local brothels.
Hey there Fellas. Arrived in Makati this afternoon. Trusted a "metered cab" at the airport and got ripped off. Since I did not know the usual fare. Meter read 1,139 pesos. Learned that I should have gotten a white cab upstairs at the Departure area and not paid much more than 250. I knew the guy was scamming me but couldn't understand how the "official" metered booth at the airport would be able to rip off the customers. Be warned.
My Airbnb is on Burgos so I spent the afternoon drinking at Cafe Cubano, chatting to other world travelers. At around 7:00 I was lured into the Iron Horse. Not expecting much to be going on. I was literally swarmed by 10 girls. Most in the 8 to 9 range. Tried to keep my cool by only ordering a beer and saying I was just "checking things out". The skimpy clothing caught my eye and I was fooling no one by pretending I didn't find them hot. The first girl I saw upon entering was named Steph. Absolute hottie. I approached her and she said her price to go off site was 10 K. But for me, she'd do it for 5 K. But I needed to speak to the Mamasan. The bog-standard Mamasan -- complete in house dress and chewing on a chicken bone -- was there, out on the front porch. Very polite. I thought she said 1600 for the bar fine and was working with that number. Then, after Steph went to change in preparation to leave with me, she asked me to pay the 4,600 bar fine. I jumped. Apparently this is the standard bar fine. 4,600 to the house. Not 1,660. And 5 K to the girl. I stopped her right there and declined. I have no problem giving this little girl 5 K or even more. But nearly 90 bucks US to the house for doing nothing? No way. I apologized to Steph and left. No other dudes in there and these high prices? I don't get it. Also. One thing that confused me. The Mamasan said that I could instead stay in the club and "do whatever I wanted" in the VIP area (a bench behind the curtain). But the price would be the same. I did not understand. Still 4,600 to the house? Yes, she said. Sounded pretty lousy to me. So I left. A while later I was in O'Reilly's pub. I like to visit Irish pubs around the world and was expecting something along those lines. Nope. Another go-go bar. About 10 girls in skimpy clothes dancing to no one. But me, after I bought a beer. Unlike Iron Horse, the quality here was not as good. Mid-range and old. However, while trying to ignore the 40 year old woman who was chatting me up, I got the "look" from one of the girls dancing on the stage. She was a stand out. She knew how to work the pole. Her sexual gyrations and eye contact sold me. Plus she was funny and cute. And 23 YO. After they stopped dancing, she came over to me at the bar. It was very awkward as I turned away from the 40 year old cougar and dove into this young one. We hit it off quickly. She and I spoke the same language. The loud music made it hard to hear. She said her price was 5 K to leave. Sounded legit. Then I thought she said there was no bar fine. OK with me. She called the Mamasan over and the big woman asked for 4,600 to bar find the girl. Huh? Well, I'm sure I am to blame for the bad understanding. I said "No thanks" and the Mamasan left. The girl said she understood that this price was way too high. Then she leaned in to me and said "I get off at 12:00. I can see you then. " Now that's what a call a cool girl. It was only 8:00 so we hung out for the better part of an hour talking dirty talk and groping each other. I bought her a lady drink for something like 600 pesos (a shot of tequila). She put the salt on my hand and licked it off before taking the shot. Pretty erotic. We exchanged numbers and she said she'd meet me at the front of my hotel at midnight. Fingers crossed this works.
If anyone has inside info on how the deal works at places like Iron Horse. Let me know if I am off base. If those are the prices, I hesitate entering any other clubs here as I will just be frustrating myself with the gorgeous girls around me. I mean. Unless I'm ready to pay almost 200 USD for a shot at sex with a club girl. I was not expecting those kinds of numbers in coming to Manila. Well. Live and learn.
Saturday night on Burgos St in Makita. A measure of action but by 10:00 it was not as crazy out on the street as I had expected. Perhaps things will pick up as the night progresses. I am happy to say that at least here I have options. I am coming from Puerto Princesa on Palawan. Before that, the beautiful beach area of El Nido. El Nido was nice for what it offered. Puerto Princesa is a shit hole and a disappointment. Both places did not provide any form of horizontal recreation. Enjoy the beaches, etc. But it will be difficult to find SW or girls in bars. Or even girls. Unless you are good at online dating or hanging out at the mall -- both requiring a long term plan of attack. I'm sure there are those out there who have figured it out. Any wisdom would be appreciated.
If anyone has inside info on how the deal works at places like Iron Horse. Let me know if I am off base. If those are the prices, I hesitate entering any other clubs here as I will just be frustrating myself with the gorgeous girls around me. I mean. Unless I'm ready to pay almost 200 USD for a shot at sex with a club girl. I was not expecting those kinds of numbers in coming to Manila. Well. Live and learn.
Unfortunately, $200 is the standard cost for Burgos St now. It's actually been that price for years and is about the only area in PI that hasn't seen significant hoeflation. For that price you should get a very attractive, english speaking girl for an all night session. Again, unfortunately, it's getting more and more common for girls to be less top shelf and now the occasional ST runner does happen too. Previously these were unheard of.
Burgos is close to the most expensive area in Manila. It's designed for guys who arrive in town with more money than time and want very foreigner focussed options. Expect pretty girls, good English, fun times, no clock watching and no mind games. Yes, cracks in these expectations are starting to appear but that's the intention.
Options are 1/ the numerous regular or freelancer clubs nearby, 2/ freelancers in the street but have your gaydar on high alert, 3/ regular online sites or, 4/ as you found, meeting gogo girls out of hours. I'd be interested to hear if the girl who gave her number actually panned out. It's can be a fun and cheaper time but the flake ratio is pretty high as girls often forget, are tired or accept other offers. Did she actually show up after her shift?
Enjoy. G.
Did she actually show up after her shift?
To answer your question. Kind of. At the end of her shift -- midnight -- I was waiting outside my hotel, next to the 7-11. She was late and entered the 7-11 with two friends, not even noticing me. Hmph, I thought. She exited and literally bumped into me. "What are you doing here" she said. Not a good sign. I reminded her of our date. She quickly said, "Yeah, I know but I need to walk with my friends to her house. She has a problem. I'll come back. " I asked when and she said "Not long. " I waited over an hour. She never showed. I will tell you friend, Yes, I should not have expected her to come back. But once you get that idea in your head, in this case, her smile, it's too damn hard to change. So I wound up selecting one of the 50 girls who approached me while standing on the sidewalk. Paid 4 K. She was small and cute and talked dirty, which I liked. She completed her mission and was nice and kind and did not ask for a tip. All good. But still, it was all just transactional. When she tried to hide the fact that she was pregnant -- "No. I'm just fat. You fat. I'm fat. " . The baby bump was obvious once her dress was off -- and pretend to give me a BJ by turning her head away and rubbing. Well, it was time to cut my losses. It might have been comical had I not been so hard up. I was about to cum on her chest and she freaked out and put five napkins over her tits and told me to cum on them. Which I did. The entire bed was littered with her napkins and about 5 condoms -- she did not like to use her fingers for anything. She left happy enough and I went to sleep around 2 AM.
Now here's the real answer to your question. This morning I figured out that Whatsapp did not send my message to the girl from O'Reilly's last night, so she had no way to respond to me last night. Like, say something like sorry I didn't show up. After a quick review of how to work Whatsapp this morning, I sent her a message asking why she did not come back. She wrote back that I never texted her first, so she couldn't write to tell me her friend had a problem with her abusive husband and could not leave her. OK. Let's not get into that, I thought. So I texted, what are you doing now? She texted back that she was getting ready for work but her work did not start until 4:00. I told her to come over now. She said she had to shower first. Then, a second later, she suggested she shower at my place instead. This told me she was in fact serious. Bells went off in my head that this might work out after all. I told her that I would be here, to text when she was downstairs. She arrived 30 minutes later and apologized profusely for standing me up last night. In the end she was a hellcat in the shower and on the bed. While showering we washed each other and she guided my cock into her pussy with her back up against the wall and one leg raised. Then turned and had me do standing doggie. Then out on the bed. I bought some small costume items and she put them out, told me they were cute, and with a mask on, allowed me to take photos. Then it was 30 minutes of sex on the bed with me making a video. Never any mention of condoms. DFK once we were grinding it. I like to see how far these girls will go organically, without using words. Moved my ass over her mouth and she knew what to do with her tongue. Did not take me long to cum after that. She presented her tongue and took it gladly. What an amazing session. She did not make any demands apart from the 5 k she quoted me at the bar last night. I gifted her the costume items and a 500 K tip since she really gave the combination "Crazy girl from Planet Claire" and GF Experience I was hoping for.
So in the end, Yes, the girl did show up. And it was worth the wait. May you all be so fortunate, my friends!
Go to 7/11 on the white beach and ask around for Bob Marley, he's darker, but doesn't look like Bob Marley, and always wears a hat, if he still around, for a few hundred peso will take you to the place with cheap honey. If he's not around anymore, ask other locals that you see hanging around there, or a trike driver, they know the local brothels.Thanks Informative and Ugly, Mate I didn't require Bob on this trip to Boracay as it all fell into place. Sometimes totally unexpectedly. Great tip though for others to hit up the trike drivers for contacts and options. Those guys will do anything for a cut of some action _ Phil.
WestCoast1
03-16-25, 16:33
Thanks for the detailed report.
Unfortunately, $200 is the standard cost for Burgos St now. It's actually been that price for years and is about the only area in PI that hasn't seen significant hoeflation. For that price you should get a very attractive, english speaking girl for an all night session. Again, unfortunately, it's getting more and more common for girls to be less top shelf and now the occasional ST runner does happen too. Previously these were unheard of.
Burgos is close to the most expensive area in Manila. It's designed for guys who arrive in town with more money than time and want very foreigner focussed options. Expect pretty girls, good English, fun times, no clock watching and no mind games.Ya, what he said, with two exceptions: $200 USD ($90 barfine + $90 to the girl + drinks) is not the cost on Burgos now: It has been the cost for well over a decade. Possible second exception: In at least one of the bars (Oculto) its as high as $300 ($200 barfine + $100 to the girl).
Hey there Fellas. Arrived in Makati this afternoon. Trusted a "metered cab" at the airport and got ripped off. Since I did not know the usual fare. Meter read 1,139 pesos. Learned that I should have gotten a white cab upstairs at the Departure area and not paid much more than 250. I knew the guy was scamming me but couldn't understand how the "official" metered booth at the airport would be able to rip off the customers. Be warned.We are warned already, repeatedly. Can you tell us the color of your taxi? Yellow? White? Its important to distinguish.
But nearly 90 bucks US to the house for doing nothing?Correct. The bars make money on several revenue streams: Your drinks, the even more expensive Lady's Drinks, tips and the barfine. Previously the barfine was exactly 10 x the cost of one LD (or alternately the cost of one LD was 1/10 the cost of the barfine), and they standardized at all the bars at p3900. But those ratios changed after covid for each bar. After covid the barfine amounts were a bit messy.
And wrong: The bars hire and gather the girls, pay their nightly salaries even when the girls don't barfine or get any LD, pay the utilities, provide their uniforms (bikinis, slutty clothes), nightly hair and make-up before going on duty, and so on. If it weren't for the bars, punters with little time to hunt locals, would not have the point-and-shoot opportunity to see a dozen or more cuties scantily clad and ready to eff your brains out (probably twice, once in the evening and again in the morning) without a condom. Give the devil his due. Lips is my fav.
No other dudes in there and these high prices? I don't get it. Its OK Ed, many of us don't get it. I have been saying since about 2018 there has been a drop in customers along Burgos. Any number of theories pop up. And there is a different logic that applies in pinoy's minds regarding business than we westerners have: Where we westerners lower prices when there are fewer customers (to attract more customers), filipinos often raise prices. Just look at what happened during 2020 (covid) condo rentals. When all travel stopped, many Filipinos wildly inflated the nightly rental cost, driving the few customers away. Many things here don't make sense. But here is one that does make sense here: For the temporary outsider, just get used to the weirdness. The place can be frustrating for anyone who doesn't like what he's not familiar with.
Also. One thing that confused me. The Mamasan said that I could instead stay in the club and "do whatever I wanted" in the VIP area (a bench behind the curtain). But the price would be the same. I did not understand. Still 4,600 to the house? Yes, she said.Yes. As reported, some bars have 'on-site' facilities (usually a couch in a private room). You would be expected to pay as much (or more) for the wild convenience of not having to transport the girl back to your place. Pre-covid, Dimples bar had 2 couches in a dark area (not even a separate room really) next to the CR. Just walking back to the CR you might see multiple fellas getting their salad tossed simultaneously. Well, you'd see their shadows on the couch. At different times over the years I was told by different mamas differing prices for using the room; in addition there was a fee to be negotiated with the girl (s) for their efforts prior to utilizing the room. The new Dimple's location since covid appears to have a somewhat similar room. Last year I noticed a similar room (on the left-hand side after you enter the door) in Marquee bar (next to Neon Nights); did not inquire of costs to utilize. I am not sure of the current price of these rooms, but they are what they are, even if there are very few customers in the bar.
A while later I was in O'Reilly's pub. I like to visit Irish pubs around the world and was expecting something along those lines. Nope. Another go-go bar. About 10 girls in skimpy clothes dancing to no one. But me, after I bought a beer. Unlike Iron Horse, the quality here was not as good. Mid-range and old. However, while trying to ignore the 40 year old woman who was chatting me up, I got the "look" from one of the girls dancing on the stage.Info similar to what has been reported in the past. O'reilly's has older fuglies, and it makes little sense.
She said her price was 5 K to leave. Sounded legit. Then I thought she said there was no bar fine. OK with me. She called the Mamasan over and the big woman asked for 4,600 to bar find the girl. Huh? Well, I'm sure I am to blame for the bad understanding. I said "No thanks" and the Mamasan left.Its a 2-part system: Barfine (p4600) goes to the bar when you pay your tab. The 5 k is a typical tip-request from the girls before she agrees to leave the bar with you. You pay it to her in the morning before she leaves. Its a TIP. If she does what she agreed to, you pay it. If she did less, you can reduce the amount. If she knocked your socks off, you can give her more. Girls sometimes say there is no barfine, and will only refer to it as an EWR (Early Work Release). Its pretty much the same barfine system as in Thailand gogos (barfine+tip), and its a different system than in AC (barfine paid up front, and no tip is needed). I was quoted p3900 for the barfine part each of several times I was in there. P3900 is a consistent barfine amount there, Maison, Lips, V-8, Dimples, Coro Rock, and Nautica. I think the mama in Bottoms also said 3900 for their barfine. Some girls might command a higher tip amount based on her hotness or popularity.
If anyone has inside info on how the deal works at places like Iron Horse. Let me know if I am off base. If those are the prices, I hesitate entering any other clubs here as I will just be frustrating myself with the gorgeous girls around me. I mean. Unless I'm ready to pay almost 200 USD for a shot at sex with a club girl. I was not expecting those kinds of numbers in coming to Manila. Well. Live and learn. This one is on you. Those prices have changed little since the bars were charging about p2700 for the barfine amount back in the 2000's. A failure to RTTF. You are not alone, we get this from newbs from time to time.
Good follow-up report on the girl from O'Reilly's who met you at 7-11. Regarding the streetwalker you took, you never really know what you have on your hands until you've agreed to her terms and she gets nakey in your room. On rare occasion I've got the girl's kit off her in the room and was repulsed, and simply cut the session short and paid her to depart ("Darlin' I just got a txt, I need to meet a business associate".).
Did she actually show up after her shift?
To answer your question. Kind of.
Thanks for the detailed report.Some additional points:
While P Burgos can be the most expensive show in town, it can also be one of the cheapest. Walking from the street into a bar can literally be a tenfold increase in prices. I have no idea why but girls in the street can represent some of the best value in manila. Obviously, avoid the bakla and search out the diamonds in the rough but it's not uncommon for girls who are broke for the day to come in to earn some quick cash. They aren't all junkies on the prowl. The 4 k paid was fully priced for a newbie. A return visit can result in half that without too much effort.
There are two reliable taxi firms in Manila: walking and Grab. All others aren't worth the effort and will result in heartache. Load the Grab app and you can even have all charges sent direct to your Wise or Card. No more fiddling for correct change, wild tip requests or 'no change, sir'.
Rents are unfucking believable anywhere in Burgos. Add in paying girls who now have many other well paid online options and it's easy to see that the bars have very high overheads.
Patrons can fuck the girls off site or many have facilities onsite. However, don't forget the near-fuck options. For the price of a couple of drinks it's not at all uncommon to have a face full of tits and a hand full of pussy. Blow jobs are not unheard of. Keep the drinks flowing and the girls won't even expect a tip. It's another example of Burgos being both both the most expensive and cheapest at the same time.
I have no idea why but many bars are a black hole for phone signal so don't expect your messages to send or be received. The same for receiving calls and messages from others. Get to know the various ticks and colours that your phone gives to show if your message is sent, read etc.
Never, ever, ever agree to go and wait for a pina. Ever. They are notorious for no shows and best case is often that they are hours late. Literally hours. Better to go do your shit and ask them to come to you or tell them to call you when they are in the lobby and you will walk down.
It's good that you had a good time. As we said, the girls are pricey but they can be great fun. Keep her number and you will find that repeat visits can get cheaper and longer esp if she calls you when an unexpected bill arrives and she needs cash now. I don't want to get your hopes up but the occasional girl will slip in a freebie for frequent fliers or to say thanks for treating them right. Let me tell you, there is little that compares to an experienced girl saying thanks the best way she knows how. It's something you will tell the grandkids about. 😜.
Thanks for the update and good report.
G.
Expat American
03-17-25, 07:57
After a long time I'm going to be in Makati for a weekend before I take off on a dive trip. Past trip to Manila I've avoided Burgos bars and had most of my girls from online sources. I may still do that but thinking of at least stepping into some of the bars for some LD and in bar fun which as disappeared from most AC bars. I get that the Lady drinks are more expensive there but if theres full contact I'm okay with it.
Anyone else in Manila at the time who wants to join for some raucous in bar fun (with or without takeout) welcome to PM me.
Never, ever, ever agree to go and wait for a pina. Ever. They are notorious for no shows. Better to go do your shit and ask them to come to you or tell them to call you when they are in the lobby and you will walk down.
It's good that you had a good time. As we said, the girls are pricey but they can be great fun. Keep her number and you will find that repeat visits can get cheaper and longer esp if she calls you when an unexpected bill arrives and she needs cash now. I don't want to get your hopes up but the occasional girl will slip in a freebie for frequent fliers or to say thanks for treating them right. Let me tell you, there is little that compares to an experienced girl saying thanks the best way she knows how. It's something you will tell the grandkids about. 😜.
Thanks for the update and good report.
G.Have to agree G.
I sat at the bar the other day and was getting multiple updates from a girl heading to Makati on the back of a dodgy motorbike from Cavite.
"No need to rush" I said.
And yes, always keep the details of a great girl you got on well with.
It definitely gets cheaper but she'll know you're a repeat customer with guaranteed income for her.
As for, "It's something you will tell the grandkids about. ".
I'm not too sure.
I'm always entering a new day in The Phils saying to myself, "That was amazing, but I can't tell anyone about it. ".
_Phil.
WestCoast1
03-17-25, 16:26
After a long time I'm going to be in Makati for a weekend before I take off on a dive trip. Past trip to Manila I've avoided Burgos bars and had most of my girls from online sources. I may still do that but thinking of at least stepping into some of the bars for some LD and in bar fun which as disappeared from most AC bars. I get that the Lady drinks are more expensive there but if theres full contact I'm okay with it.
Anyone else in Manila at the time who wants to join for some raucous in bar fun (with or without takeout) welcome to PM me.Try Marquee bar. Its between the Taqueria Mexican resto on Burgos / Durban corner, and Neon Nights. Have been in twice and purchased a LD, and both times I was the one getting molested.
As for, "It's something you will tell the grandkids about. ".
I'm not too sure.
I'm always entering a new day in The Phils saying to myself, "That was amazing, but I can't tell anyone about it. ".
_Phil.I learnt long ago that civilians back home will call you a liar and won't even believe the tamer stories.
Best to trade stories with those who know the secret handshake. Otherwise, what goes on tour stays on tour.
Enjoy. G.
I learnt long ago that civilians back home will call you a liar and won't even believe the tamer stories.
Best to trade stories with those who know the secret handshake. Otherwise, what goes on tour stays on tour.
Enjoy. G.Just wanted to add my thanks for the feedback on my experience. In general, I have learned to adjust my expectations while in Pinay country. My last night on Burgos I walked up and down looking for my next love. I have pretty high standards and like the younger girls, so you can imagine how fatigued I was. Did discover a nice Mexican place that does Enchiladas called "Chupacabra". Very cool spot. Regarding the mongering trade, had I more time, I would have done things differently. 2 nights in MNL is not enough. Anyway, the one SW girl I found super hot appeared to have attitude and would not return my gaze until her much less attractive companion pointed me out to her. Then she asked me to approach. How much? 10,000. I told her that she was indeed beautiful but I did not have 10 K on me. She said she'd accept 200 USD. I thanked her for doing the math for me but said I did not have that either. She said, "Go to machine and withdraw. " Excuse me? "Withdraw," she repeated. Hmmph. I suppose that would be an option, honey. But in spite of your gorgeous slim body and young face, I can tell, once in the bedroom, you would seriously disappoint. So, no go. I appreciated her smile when we parted. Instead I found another girl who disappointed me at a much more affordable price: 3,500. Well, that's how it goes. I left the following day and flew to Jakarta. It's a whole different can of beans over here. Last night's session was with a stunner for approx. 25 USD, including a full shower before and after. My tour of SE Asia continues.
FuriousGeorge
03-18-25, 07:57
This guy is pretty good. Straight to the point with real data. His condo is $600 usd a month. Yeah, it's kind of small. But I live in a similar building in LA, by the beach, and all-in, mortgage, insurance, property tax, HOA, I'm at around about 5. 5 k a month. Who wouldn't do this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsreik5XQCA
WestCoast1
03-18-25, 12:36
Did discover a nice Mexican place that does Enchiladas called "Chupacabra". Very cool spot. So I've heard (see below). There was a sister resto in the Glorieta mall until a few months ago called El Mexicant or such. Same menu. But I like the vibe better on Felipe St. Try the al pastor tacos. Ask for a magic marker and write your name on the wall.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1007-Manila&p=2976873&viewfull=1#post2976873
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1007-Manila&p=2976926&viewfull=1#post2976926
How much? 10,000. I told her that she was indeed beautiful but I did not have 10 K on me. She said she'd accept 200 USD. I thanked her for doing the math for me but said I did not have that either. She said, "Go to machine and withdraw. " Excuse me? "Withdraw," she repeated. Wow! Outrageous!
I left the following day and flew to Jakarta. It's a whole different can of beans over here. Last night's session was with a stunner for approx. 25 USD, including a full shower before and after. My tour of SE Asia continues.You're going to love it. Like Thailand, harder-bodied girls available in different ways. Do an Advanced search here on ISG for Goferrings Jakarta reports.
I learnt long ago that civilians back home will call you a liar and won't even believe the tamer stories.
Best to trade stories with those who know the secret handshake. Otherwise, what goes on tour stays on tour.
Enjoy. G.Completely agree G.
I don't even bother telling anyone at home what I get up to.
1. The guys won't believe it.
2. And secondly, all the friends I have at home seem to be western women living in my building who are past their used by date. Ie, they're divorced, old and angry or are just lousy in bed.
There is still the perception that I only travel to the Phils for sex. And all the talk is behind my back. A few wines always brings out the truth from one or two of them.
It's just all gossip.
My priority in the Phils is business first, as it pays my way.
Then it's all fun.
Just a bit difficult to tell the girls at home when we get together for drinks, that you've just had two weeks of bedroom gymnastics with numerous pretty girls who definitely know how to play.
Yes, generally what goes on tour stays on tour.
But the memories can be priceless.
_Phil.
You're going to love it. Like Thailand, harder-bodied girls available in different ways. Do an Advanced search here on ISG for Goferrings Jakarta reports.Some of those reports would be getting pretty old now. I understand that prices have gone up and two hard bodied 19 year olds are well over $30. That's for both, not each. 😜.
G.
Locamotive
03-19-25, 15:29
I learnt long ago that civilians back home will call you a liar and won't even believe the tamer stories.
Best to trade stories with those who know the secret handshake. Otherwise, what goes on tour stays on tour.
Enjoy. G.Agreed. Its like what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. A few yars ago I lost some good golfing buddies, not true friends mind you but they always included me in their foursome. They were business guys who I doiubt ever left the country all married and in their 30's. Whats it like overseas, after our rounds drinking a few beers. I showed them. I could see the look on their faces. A guy in his 60's has women that blows our wives out of the water, of course they got a few stories as well. But hey they ask. Soon I was no longer included in the rounds. Follow this advice other are saying here, we know Asia is Disneyland for men but don't flaunt it once back home, especially in US.
Locamotive
03-19-25, 16:48
Hey there Fellas. Arrived in Makati this afternoon. Trusted a "metered cab" at the airport and got ripped off. Since I did not know the usual fare. Meter read 1,139 pesos. Learned that I should have gotten a white cab upstairs at the Departure area and not paid much more than 250. I knew the guy was scamming me but couldn't understand how the "official" metered booth at the airport would be able to rip off the customers. Be warned...Airport taxi? Yes they are notorious for this. My last visit in December got one and made sure meter, oh yes sir. To avoid further problems I always chit chit about my many travels there and the fact I worked there several years ago and lived there once. I was a bit concerned as I did not see meter running, but I thought trying to cheat me would be just stupid after my conversation. Haha I was wrong. We arrived at City Garden, sir that will be 1150 p. Damn did you not listen to anything I said, I've been here many times, I know the taxi fare from the airport. Duh. I'm giving you 350 if you are not happy call the police. He took the money and drove off pissed, these guys are unbelievable. You mentioned beauties at Iron Horse, in December they were all dogs except one. I know girls rotate quite often so yeah its possible, I'll check it out next month on my return.
Airport taxi? Yes they are notorious for this.Davao is the only place I catch regular taxis. Never in Manila and definitely not the airport.
Fear of Duterte created the only honest taxis in the Philippines. Everywhere else it's Grab, trikes or walking.
G.
Expat American
03-20-25, 04:10
I learnt long ago that civilians back home will call you a liar and won't even believe the tamer stories.
Best to trade stories with those who know the secret handshake. Otherwise, what goes on tour stays on tour.
Enjoy. G.I first visited AC in 2004. I went back and told my friend about my experience and he was like "Stop Bullshitting me. There can be no such place on this planet". Later he came with me on a trip and has been forever grateful that I showed him Pussy Wonderland. This of course was back in the day of 500ST and 1500 LT and you had to kick the girls out or they would never leave. And LD were 125 P and the girls would get naked and grind on you for an hour over a single drink.
WestCoast1
03-20-25, 13:03
Its a 2-part system: Barfine (p4600) goes to the bar when you pay your tab. The 5 k is a typical tip-request from the girls before she agrees to leave the bar with you. You pay it to her in the morning before she leaves. Its a TIP. If she does what she agreed to, you pay it. If she did less, you can reduce the amount. If she knocked your socks off, you can give her more. Girls sometimes say there is no barfine, and will only refer to it as an EWR (Early Work Release). Its pretty much the same barfine system as in Thailand gogos (barfine+tip), and its a different system than in AC (barfine paid up front, and no tip is needed). I was quoted p3900 for the barfine part each of several times I was in there. P3900 is a consistent barfine amount there, Maison, Lips, V-8, Dimples, Coro Rock, and Nautica. I think the mama in Bottoms also said 3900 for their barfine. Some girls might command a higher tip amount based on her hotness or popularity.
If anyone has inside info on how the deal works at places like Iron Horse. Let me know if I am off base. If those are the prices, I hesitate entering any other clubs here as I will just be frustrating myself with the gorgeous girls around me. I mean. Unless I'm ready to pay almost 200 USD for a shot at sex with a club girl. I was not expecting those kinds of numbers in coming to Manila. Well. Live and learn.Regarding pre-covid barfines (p3900 + 5 k-ish tip):
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1007-Manila&p=2639009&viewfull=1#post2639009
Barfines at Go Bananas, Jools, Dimples, Mirrors, Bourbon, and Hollywood were, in February 2020 (just prior to Covid), p3900. Some bars had happy hour prices, afternoon and early evening, half-price on the barfine for ST. LT tip prices were p4-6 k for hotties, half that for lesser girls. Even for a hottie, p3900 BF + p6,000 tip + p600 drinks was about 11 k, $220 USD, so not far off from the $240 mentioned (adding in dinner and / or breakfast and / or bar-hopping with your honey). For lesser girls you could get them to agree to 2000-3500-ish for tip (and, for those interested, I had little trouble convincing them to afternoon ST with me prior to their shift for 2 k). Someone correct me if I am wrong.
On my second last trip to Burgos, the girls were trying hard to get me to arrange some extra-curricular action with them. One, a Russian looking girl, gave me her # and two more expressed interest in arranging a meet. I was splashing a little more cash than usual maybe, although on the whole night out I spent max 5 k, ladies drinks and a few 100 peso tips. I guess it is slower than normal and they are hurting for cash.
Bottoms and Maison seem to be the two best joints by far.
Might try to get some numbers tonight, although the logistics of doing that discretely still elude me.
Davao is the only place I catch regular taxis. Never in Manila and definitely not the airport.
Fear of Duterte created the only honest taxis in the Philippines. Everywhere else it's Grab, trikes or walking. G.Hi G,
I still use taxis to and from the airport but I know how to work it now.
I usually just want to get to my hotel after a long flight and with the popularity of Grab, that's become a bit of a shit-fight organizing one once you land.
I never allow anyone to put my baggage into a taxi unless they turn the meter on first.
If they don't like it they can fuck off, basically.
I also say, "No meter, no tip. ".
I usually get to Makati for 400 p with a tip.
The same goes in reverse back to the airport.
I tell the hotel door guys to tell the driver in Tagalog that if he isn't using the meter, no fare, no tip.
Airport taxi? Yes they are notorious for this. I'm giving you 350 if you are not happy call the police. He took the money and drove off pissed, these guys are unbelievable.Good call Loca.
They always ask me what country I'm from. I say Puerto Galera. And I know how much this is going to cost me, Salamat!
These days I don't get into a taxi unless the price is firm and the meter's running in advance.
When I arrived this month, I noticed that they have moved all the yellow cabs and the others down the ramp in the arrivals at terminal 1.
They've also got rid of the little beer shops down there by the car park too.
_ Phil.
Expat American
03-28-25, 15:57
I spent 2 nights in Makati before heading out on a dive trip. I had not been to Manila in several years and even then had not bothered with the P Burgos scene, preferring online girls or LA Cafe instead. This time I decided to check out the P. Burgos scene. Based on info here I expected 3 things. 1. It would be expensive, 2. There were more pretty young girls than AC and 3. There was plenty of hands on action in the bars for LD. I can tell you 1 is definitely true. A beer for me was about 180-190 P and LD varied from 390 P to 460 P. I didn't barfine anyone but I assume it was 4 K +5 K as reported. 2 is definitely not true. Girl quality was no better than AC, a couple of young ones, but lots of 30+ single moms. Definitely no one I would drop $200 to fuck. And for 3, it was hit or miss. Dimples was the best for in bar action. I had 3 girls for a couple of hours all over me and the total tab was like 4 K Pesos. I think that was fun and decent value for money. The LD were actual alcohol and quite strong and the girls were getting sloshed and wild. I had 3 girls with tops off full DFK, some fingering and a short sample BJ at the bar itself. Good times like the old AC bars (but at 3 x the cost). Maison girls also gave a good time but each drink didn't last long enough for me to buy more than 2 or 3. Other bars were disappointing including Bottoms, Marquee and a couple of others I just popped my head into and left quickly.
I ended up just fucking two girls from PL (one each night). I paid one 2 K (no discussion before meeting) who I sent home (she was sad) so I could go to the bars and the other was a freebie that came after her mall job and spent the night. Both were 30+ MILFS but a good time.
All in all Makati is okay as a 2 day pass through but I wouldn't make it a destination. Although I think PL could be productive if that's your game.
For privacy reasons, I'm trying to find an overnight spot that doesn't require me to show identification. Any suggestions?
Old And Ugly
03-30-25, 05:18
For privacy reasons, I'm trying to find an overnight spot that doesn't require me to show identification. Any suggestions?SoGo Hotels, and similar.
TrykePatroler
03-30-25, 08:29
It's my first time back in Asia since covid and first time in Manila. I'm staying near PBS as there's an event I'm attending in Makati. I was walking around last night (Saturday) and saw the street very lively with many girls coming up to me on the street. There was a young cutie who was adamant to give me "very good massage" for 1 k for one hour. I asked if FS was on the table, she said it would be 3 k after haggling. I didn't feel like going to any bars and dealing with all that at the moment, so I decided why not and wipe off the dust with her. The "salon" was decent and didn't seem seedy or unsafe. She massaged me for 10 minutes then the action began and I popped in the crappy rubber provided (I'm going to BYOC for the rest of the trip). She massaged me for another 10 minutes and asked to go to my place or a love hotel for more. I said I'd get her number and let her know tomorrow. I've never given a provider my number and will keep it that way to stay safe. She then said I had to pay the house 1 k more for the massage, and I asked why she said 3 k total at the beginning. At this point I was trying to gtfo and coughed it up to someone else at the front. She was 25 and had a nice body, but I don't appreciate the swindling and will not text her back. $70 USD seems like I'm getting fleeced in a country / place like this, but I guess this is a "nicer" area of town on a Saturday night and many other reports suggest it's gotten expensive here. If I would have known that 4 k was the price, I'd rather try out a place like Pegasus.
Then this morning I go to a storefront for a seemingly more legit massage. 700 for one hour and included body scrub. Massage was good and the girl was cute. She then tried to ask for 5 k for a handy, and I was about to just get up at that point. I got her down to 1. 5 k and she got me some ginger tea. Again I was offered a whatsapp number and made sure to only get her contact info and not give out mine. I'm all about trying to help people out but ffs the grab ride from the airport was only 350. I guess I've been spoiled with the hidden gyms of the chongos in Lima and Bogota where short time is only $10-15 without all the outrageous haggling with a hot chica. But let me know guys, did I get swindled or is this how it is here in PBS or Manila? I'll try out some other areas and La cafe.
WestCoast1
03-30-25, 10:22
For privacy reasons, I'm trying to find an overnight spot that doesn't require me to show identification. Any suggestions?I was trying to PM you some info. Please get a paid subscription (best $20 you can spend).
KenjiYoshioka
03-30-25, 18:50
It's my first time back in Asia since covid and first time in Manila. I'm staying near PBS as there's an event I'm attending in Makati. I was walking around last night (Saturday) and saw the street very lively with many girls coming up to me on the street. There was a young cutie who was adamant to give me "very good massage" for 1 k for one hour. I asked if FS was on the table, she said it would be 3 k after haggling. I didn't feel like going to any bars and dealing with all that at the moment, so I decided why not and wipe off the dust with her. The "salon" was decent and didn't seem seedy or unsafe. She massaged me for 10 minutes then the action began and I popped in the crappy rubber provided (I'm going to BYOC for the rest of the trip). She massaged me for another 10 minutes and asked to go to my place or a love hotel for more. I said I'd get her number and let her know tomorrow. I've never given a provider my number and will keep it that way to stay safe. She then said I had to pay the house 1 k more for the massage, and I asked why she said 3 k total at the beginning. At this point I was trying to gtfo and coughed it up to someone else at the front. She was 25 and had a nice body, but I don't appreciate the swindling and will not text her back. $70 USD seems like I'm getting fleeced in a country / place like this, but I guess this is a "nicer" area of town on a Saturday night and many other reports suggest it's gotten expensive here. If I would have known that 4 k was the price, I'd rather try out a place like Pegasus..You picked the most expensive place in the PI. Also everywhere you go they are going to try to fleece you for every single peso; that's the game.
TrykePatroler
03-31-25, 08:56
You picked the most expensive place in the PI. Also everywhere you go they are going to try to fleece you for every single peso; that's the game.I went to Abacca today and it was 1. 5 k and included everything (lingam) no haggling. The massage was ok, she said they had a deep tissue masseuse at night. Served me juice at the end and I got a shower before and after. Much better experience all around, I'll have to try a different district the next time I'm here. Maybe LA Cafe area for better prices? Let me know if there are any casas / chongos that are safe / worth going to.
Trevor2522
03-31-25, 10:57
I was trying to PM you some info. Please get a paid subscription (best $20 you can spend).Please email me. After 39 nights here on my own, I could use it! Last weekend in Sabang was a waste; the Koreans have cornered the market in the former, Western-patronised fleshpots. And I'm not into late-thirties, single moms offering upstairs 'massage' at L A Café for ₱8,000.
WestCoast1
03-31-25, 11:58
Please email me. After 39 nights here on my own, I could use it! Last weekend in Sabang was a waste; the Koreans have cornered the market in the former, Western-patronised fleshpots. And I'm not into late-thirties, single moms offering upstairs 'massage' at L A Caf for ₱8,000.I don't have your email (and you can't post it here), and that would just be a work-around for your not paying for a subscription.
WestCoast1
03-31-25, 23:54
I don't have your email (and you can't post it here), and that would just be a work-around for your not paying for a subscription.Trevor, apology. I thought I was replying to the original poster, JohnLucid, who does not have PM.
WestCoast1
04-01-25, 00:07
If I would have known that 4 k was the price, I'd rather try out a place like Pegasus.
I guess I've been spoiled with the hidden gyms of the chongos in Lima and Bogota where short time is only $10-15 without all the outrageous haggling with a hot chica. But let me know guys, did I get swindled or is this how it is here in PBS or Manila? I'll try out some other areas and La cafe.Kenji is korrecto, you picked the most expensive place in Phils for the ditty. $200 USD is not uncommon there for barfines. Its a convenience thing. Prices went sideways actually. Whereas previous to covid the price range for street girls on Burgos was p1500-2000 for ST, after covid that might be p2000-4000.
LA Cafe initial asks are often p3-6000 (even for fuglies). Looking on the board here for prices from online sources like FB and dating sites, its looking p3-5 k ($60-$100).
You aren't necessarily getting ripped off. Those are just the new realities of the big city. Gems-4-less can be found, but are more rare and require more hunting and effort, and are not generally for the casual visitor. It appears you failed to RTTF here prior to your trip, as its well known that prices jumped for non-barfine girls when covid hit. We been jawing on it for several years. Already covered here on the Phils threads are other locations you can hit for either prettier girls, or for lower prices (ie Jakarta).
WC.
We been jawing on it for several years. Already covered here on the Phils threads are other locations you can hit for either prettier girls, or for lower prices (ie Jakarta).
WC.No need to travel to Jakarta for cheap sex. Lots of places in the Philippines have $20 to 30 options too. Granted, it's not going to be in Foreignersville but it's not that hard to find. As you said, others can RTTF to find a few members who have posted their experiences and included what, where and how.
Enjoy. G.
Trevor2522
04-01-25, 07:42
No need to travel to Jakarta for cheap sex. Lots of places in the Philippines have $20 to 30 options too.I noticed one guy, probably a Filipino, stating on Facebook (Makati Walkers) that his budget was P1,500 ($26). Should be do-able with Pinays half-hiding behind their phones, if one can actually make contact with them.
Westie: please private-message me with the offer of information you made to JohnLucid. Thanks.
I noticed one guy, probably a Filipino, stating on Facebook (Makati Walkers) that his budget was P1,500 ($26). Should be do-able with Pinays half-hiding behind their phones, if one can actually make contact with them.
That's a pretty good rate for metro pussy. It was the same for Burgos freelancers off the street but I can't vouch that it's still available post COVID. I expect not. It certainly is in the smaller centers, outside Manila.
I'll give it a go when I'm back. Or you can and report back. 😁.
Enjoy. G.
WestCoast1
04-01-25, 11:02
I noticed one guy, probably a Filipino, stating on Facebook (Makati Walkers) that his budget was P1,500 ($26). Should be do-able with Pinays half-hiding behind their phones, if one can actually make contact with them.Just a possibility, but the FB Walker account owner might have been indicating his cut (commission) is p1500.
That's a pretty good rate for metro pussy. It was the same for Burgos freelancers off the street but I can't vouch that it's still available post COVID. I expect not. It certainly is in the smaller centers, outside Manila.Go is correct, p1500 would be on the low end, even for older fug Burgos SW for a ST. Young PYT Makati internet FL typically want about 2-3 times that (plus the Walker's papasan's additional commission, probably p500 or so). Just look at the reports of PhilJoy and other online purchasers for similar prices (escort services considerably more).
Transporter
04-01-25, 11:15
I would wager that the dude got some fish to bite for 1. 5 K.
WestCoast1
04-01-25, 11:51
I would wager that the dude got some fish to bite for 1. 5 K.Another fair wager would be that, given the low cost, the girl that shows up at your door is not the hottie that appears on the Walker FB page.
Just a possibility, but the FB Walker account owner might have been indicating his cut (commission) is p1500.
Go is correct, p1500 would be on the low end, even for older fug Burgos SW for a ST. Young PYT Makati internet FL typically want about 2-3 times that (plus the Walker's papasan's additional commission, probably p500 or so). Just look at the reports of PhilJoy and other online purchasers for similar prices (escort services considerably more).I've never seen a walker account publishing as an agent. Though an agent may be part of the process behind the scenes. Whats more likely is that its a filipino posting his budget just as the original poster thought. I've seen plenty of fb accounts publishing messages in walker groups what they are looking for, where and a budget. Sometimes the budget is as low as 500 pesos. Not sure how many walkers would go for that though.
I noticed one guy, probably a Filipino, stating on Facebook (Makati Walkers) that his budget was P1,500 ($26). Should be do-able with Pinays half-hiding behind their phones, if one can actually make contact with them.
Westie: please private-message me with the offer of information you made to JohnLucid. Thanks.I think its doable. Just you might not get what you want. I've had a couple encounters with walkers and neither of them were great. I'm sure there are some good ones, but they have a referral system where many of the walkers require proof of past-walk, which means you need to send a screenshot of another walker saying good things about you.
Alexandra2525
04-01-25, 13:36
Sorry guys I'm not sure I am following this conversation.
By walkers are we referring to street walkers? And if so are we saying they have a collective FB account??
No doubt I have completely misunderstood this so apologies in advance!
Sorry guys I'm not sure I am following this conversation.
By walkers are we referring to street walkers? And if so are we saying they have a collective FB account??
No doubt I have completely misunderstood this so apologies in advance!Its lingo used primarly on facebook to advertise sexual services in the philippines. Walkers are the ladies, Takers are the men. Theres a whole bunch of other jargon / abbreviations as well.
Trevor2522
04-01-25, 14:08
By walkers are we referring to street walkers? !No; the only connection with street walkers is the paid-sex aspect. Enter the search terms 'Walker(s)' + the district of interest, or just Walkers, or any permutation. Many groups and they vary by time.
'makati walker class a 3 k to 10 k' also popped up in the search box, without bringing up a group: likely referring to costs in a past, up-market group -- but I would certainly expect a top overnighter for that! The girls are very coy and shy; many refusing to show their faces, in part or full. Some Pinays don't sound very enthusiastic about advertising, but need the money! 'No DP' means no down payment.
Transporter
04-01-25, 18:31
Another fair wager would be that, given the low cost, the girl that shows up at your door is not the hottie that appears on the Walker FB page.Hmm. I live and play in this world, have been for the past 10 years now. Depends on how well you play your end.
Transporter
04-01-25, 18:33
Its lingo used primarly on facebook to advertise sexual services in the philippines. Walkers are the ladies, Takers are the men. Theres a whole bunch of other jargon / abbreviations as well.GM are the men. Sure takers are what they are looking for
I've never seen a walker account publishing as an agent. Though an agent may be part of the process behind the scenes.In my limited research, I've found a mixture of everything: some sites are marketplaces where sellers and buyers can advertise and meet; some are the individuals themselves and; others are handlers looking for or offering up girls and taking a cut. There are also sub groups offering up special interests: SHS, semichubbies, grade A, single mom's etc. Some are clearly pros and others appear to be girls simply broke for the day. Part timers rely heavily on past references or meet first. I'd agree with the previous poster that many girls are very shy and simply need the cash now vs being hard core hookers.
In terms of pricing, it's a local market so there is the whole range from competing with 800 p overpass girls to grade A models.
I'd be surprised if there is a lot of bait and switch due to the reliance on references and past history.
The use of slang, abbreviations and spanglish make navigation pretty difficult for the first time foreigner.
Pages come and go quickly so FB's friends of friends and recommendations is a good way to find many sites quickly.
I'd be interested to read other guys first hand reports of using walker groups. They are something I would like to try next visit but to date it's just been research.
Cheers. G.
Its lingo used primarly on facebook to advertise sexual services in the philippines. Walkers are the ladies, Takers are the men. Theres a whole bunch of other jargon / abbreviations as well.Does anyone have a list of abbreviations / slang used?
Something like this:
That may have been me??
The system is pretty simple: hastag_what_where eg. #cewejakarta.
The only complication is Indonesians' love for abbreviations and conjoined words:
#bispak (ai) is bisa pakai or ready to be used (for sex).
#jaksel is Jakarta Selatan or South Jakarta.
#ABG is Anak Baru Gede or a naughty young girl.
#BO is Booking Out.
#include / exclude relates to the hotel so is essentially in or outcall.
#wajibcap is compulsory condoms. #bebas is free or without.
Sometimes the individual hastags are used but many, many times they are combined eg #OpenBOJakSel.
Basic Bahasa is useful as many of these girls speak no English and a lot of the slang used won't be found in Google Translate.
Enjoy. G.
Locamotive
04-01-25, 21:59
Another fair wager would be that, given the low cost, the girl that shows up at your door is not the hottie that appears on the Walker FB page.That is my fear. In all the years I've been to PHP I've never tried online apps of any kind, pig in a poke scenario is my concern. I've always in the past done Greenbelt (when it was a thing) bars or friend hookups. I know from some reports here online can be quite good or a nightmare. At least when meeting I can see the package and the connection we may have. Photos which can be altered or chatting don't tell you much. I did try online twice while working in Vietnam as hooking up there is much tougher than the Philippine's. While attractive they were both duds and clock watchers. I got a bad taste over that but living there time didn't matter, I had plenty. Ill be back in May for 3 weeks maybe this time Ill give it a shot as the lookers in the bars has gone down and the prices have gone up. As it was in December the bars are dead and I think the cuties may be working elsewhere, online maybe? ID ask for suggestions but there are plenty of post on the apps as there are many, I guess just point and shoot and hope for the best.
Does anyone have a list of abbreviations / slang used?
Something like this:This was from my personal notes a while back:
#lf. Looking for. As in 'lf lakad' meaning looking for walk. Meaning looking for a client.
#DP. Down payment. Often used like 'no DP'. As in they won't ask for a down payment.
#vc. Video call. As in 'vc check' you can request a video call to check to see if the girl looks like her pictures.
#psp. Personal service provider. A more polite name for a prostitute / walker.
#loc. Location.
#maputi. White / lighter skin. This is usually desirable among filipinos.
#CD. Condom. As in 'CD required'.
#maarte. Tough / difficult to please as in 'hindi maarte' or 'di marte' for short. Means not difficult.
#mabait. Sweet.
#cif / CIM. Pretty well known already.
#maganda. Beautiful.
#pastwalk. Reference screenshot of from another walker.
#ptpa. Permission to post admin. In some groups, you cannot post unless the admin gives you rights. You can include this in your post as a request to be given those rights.
Basically for any walk related posting you can start off by messaging the poster asking for details with 'deets please' or 'dets please'. Hope this helps. I probably missed a bit. My walker game is pretty rusty.
If you copy and paste a walker advertisement here I'll translate to the best of my ability. Or you can pm me.
Old And Ugly
04-02-25, 04:03
I'm the one that discovered, or at least brought up the subject of walkers, last year in Davao. As I said this is filipino customer base oriented, if any of us gets involved into it, needs to assume the risks related to it. Is best to navigate thru it with a guide otherwise you're getting lost or taken advantage off. Personally most of it doesn't make any sense, it's all greek to me, but my GF reads it like an open book. We had only pleasant beautiful experiences, usually she picked starving students doing this as a last resort.
As I said if you want to do this, you need a young filipina / o mind to help you navigate it, and you need to make decisions quick, because is volatile like the stock market, the offer is placed, and taken off as soon as the first convenient bid arrives.
I want to mention that we mostly did this in Davao, and we always bid up a notch to make our offer stand up, more enticing than the others. When in AC I like to go shopping the old fashioned way: hands on, even if the cost is triple, I like seating down in the bar with them, having a drink, and interviewing them.
Trevor2522
04-02-25, 11:37
The only complication is Indonesians' love for abbreviations and conjoined words. Basic Bahasa Indonesia is useful as many of these girls speak no English and a lot of the slang used won't be found in Google Translate. Enjoy.Do you know where / any code words to find 'Goyang Madura' (vaginal massage) practitioners on Facebook? Goyang Madura offers no groups or leads; I posted about the practice on the Indonesia forum's User Blog. Being closely culturally-related to the Indonesia, has anyone heard of that practice in the Philippines?
Facebook Manila/Makati Walkers is interesting -- but very challenging, and fast-moving, for foreigners, not knowing the language or etiquette. Large, Pinay breasts are very common, compared to the less well-endowed Thais and Chinese. Some cute faces too and most appear childless, although quite petite (average height of Filipinas, and Colombianas, is 5' 0".5) Half the girls don't show their faces, and even fewer of the male takers.
Just a possibility, but the FB Walker account owner might have been indicating his cut (commission) is p1500.
Go is correct, p1500 would be on the low end, even for older fug Burgos SW for a ST. Young PYT Makati internet FL typically want about 2-3 times that (plus the Walker's papasan's additional commission, probably p500 or so). Just look at the reports of PhilJoy and other online purchasers for similar prices (escort services considerably more).Hi Westie,
Yeah, the closest I've come to that price was my last day at City Garden last month.
But not online.
An old contact decided to get a joy ride back to Cavite at 2 am after meeting me at the hotel, and when things got a bit ugly after she hit the Red Horse, I saw her on her way.
And just after she left, a 30 yr old freelancer approached me.
(I'm normally really apprehensive in these situations, especially after Tanduay, but she was nice and didn't have the bakla accent! - buyer beware!
When I asked, "How much?" (magkano) she replied, "I just need help for my family. ".
So she stayed the night and we had two shots before bed and she was extremely grateful for 2 K.
I got a wake-up surprise and gave her another 1 K before she left.
Yes, she was in her thirties, but the service was first class and she was extremely fit.
And I've retained her as a contact on Whatsapp for next time in a few months.
Yes, Pina Love worked for me in Boracay where there isn't a bar scene, but I've found that generally in Makati I can get what I want without searching online.
Just walk out onto the street and save all that time sitting behind a screen and dealing with messages.
You just have to be careful and know what you're looking for outside of the expensive bar scene.
Walkers? I'm still trying to see how that all works and how to find it on FB _ Phil.
Do you know where / any code words to find 'Goyang Madura' (vaginal massage) practitioners on Facebook? Goyang Madura offers no groups or leads; I posted about the practice on the Indonesia forum's User Blog. Being closely culturally-related to the Indonesia, has anyone heard of that practice in the Philippines?Brother, you are seeking the Holy Grail there. Even in Indonesia, true practitioners are very rare. Lots of promises but few actually deliver. There are many Pinas who are passionate lovers using their whole body but I've never met any one who uses their internal muscles to the same extent. The big difference is that Indo, China etc have hooker schools where girls are formally taught the tricks of the trade and Goyang Madura is taught, Madurese mother to daughter*, so that she can attract and keep a husband. Pinas learn informally through porn, friends and on the job training.
In short, I'd put it down to a regional speciality. Sort of like a Red Rope massage or Fire and Ice BJ in China. Let me know if I'm wrong.
Enjoy. G.
*Training includes various exercises and potions to develop the girls skills and stamina. Allegedly these include being able to go for a swim in the ocean while holding on to a heavy stone dildo, a 'Tongkat Madura'.
AH! I understand now. I was honestly quite confused. Vaginal massage means massaging with the vagina. I really thought he was looking for a woman who was an expert in massaging vaginas. Haha.
Brother, you are seeking the Holy Grail there. Even in Indonesia, true practitioners are very rare. Lots of promises but few actually deliver. There are many Pinas who are passionate lovers using their whole body but I've never met any one who uses their internal muscles to the same extent. The big difference is that Indo, China etc have hooker schools where girls are formally taught the tricks of the trade and Goyang Madura is taught, Madurese mother to daughter*, so that she can attract and keep a husband. Pinas learn informally through porn, friends and on the job training.
In short, I'd put it down to a regional speciality. Sort of like a Red Rope massage or Fire and Ice BJ in China. Let me know if I'm wrong.
Enjoy. G.
*Training includes various exercises and potions to develop the girls skills and stamina. Allegedly these include being able to go for a swim in the ocean while holding on to a heavy stone dildo, a 'Tongkat Madura'.
Transporter
04-02-25, 18:35
In short, I'd put it down to a regional speciality. Sort of like a Red Rope massage or Fire and Ice BJ in China. Let me know if I'm wrong.Wow brings back awesome memories, haven't had a red rope massage since about 2005 in Chang An.
AH! I understand now. I was honestly quite confused. Vaginal massage means massaging with the vagina. I really thought he was looking for a woman who was an expert in massaging vaginas. Haha.Don't laugh too much. That exists too and it's fully legitimate. Girls can go to a high end salon to have their vag massaged externally to tighten everything up, aid cramps etc. Well that's the theory. 😁.
Enjoy. G.
Old And Ugly
04-03-25, 05:22
Brother, you are seeking the Holy Grail there. Even in Indonesia, true practitioners are very rare. Lots of promises but few actually deliver. There are many Pinas who are passionate lovers using their whole body but I've never met any one who uses their internal muscles to the same extent. The big difference is that Indo, China etc have hooker schools where girls are formally taught the tricks of the trade and Goyang Madura is taught, Madurese mother to daughter*, so that she can attract and keep a husband. Pinas learn informally through porn, friends and on the job training.
In short, I'd put it down to a regional speciality. Sort of like a Red Rope massage or Fire and Ice BJ in China. Let me know if I'm wrong.
Enjoy. G.
*Training includes various exercises and potions to develop the girls skills and stamina. Allegedly these include being able to go for a swim in the ocean while holding on to a heavy stone dildo, a 'Tongkat Madura'.Now I get it also, I thought its' about massaging the vagina, not with the vagina. Also called the Kegel maneuver.
Very rare in the PH, I know a girl that's an expert in that, I mean If you don't know where your dick is, you may think is in her mouth, but I avoided her lately, because she's draining you of money, the same skilled way she's draining you of cum, and she's getting older now, 30 plus, no kids killer body and tits, very tall.
I teached my GF how to do it, and she's good at, but I have to remind her to do it, it gives her a lot of pleasure also.
Trevor2522
04-03-25, 06:32
Fire-and-ice BJ is fairly self-explanatory: alternating between hot water and ice in the mouth. Any experiencers?
Red rope: when two women perform oral sex on a man. One woman hangs upside down hanging from a red rope, while performing oral sex on a man, while the other woman spins the rope. Then the assisting woman lets go of the tightly spun rope, while Miss Upside-Down still performs oral sex, whilst spinning in the other direction.
(Alternate definition) After an Asian massage, ask for the 'red rope service. ' The masseuse will take some rope, tie her feet up to the ceiling and wind the rope up and give you a spinning blow job; leads to a neutron-bomb orgasm.
Kegel exercises are intended to strengthen the pelvic-floor muscles of males or females. Especially after childbirth in the latter. Involves clenching: as if to stop urinary flow.
Even partial exponents of Goyang Madura / Kegel are acceptable; you will hardly last a couple of minutes with full-service providers! Worst are mothers, or lazy Thai girls, who gave the name to 'Slack Alisa' (Slack Alice in the West).
Alexandra2525
04-03-25, 12:35
Thanks to all those that explained the Walker thing. I'm hoping to get to Ph later this year and might set up a mongering FB account to check it out.
I must say, every day is a school day on ISG. At my age I thought I had heard and seen everything even if not personally experienced it. But I had never heard of the Red Rope massage and it has blown my mind!!
Alexandra2525
04-03-25, 12:43
Hoping to get to Manila later this year. I don't fancy paying the reportedly inflated prices of Burgos and so was hoping that PL would provide fruitful for me, Thai Friendly definitely worked well for me in Thailand.
I have an issue though which is that I have a long term partner and so mongering is of course completely under the radar. I also happen to work with quite a few Filipinos in my home country in Europe, I must know at least 30 of them.
My fear is that they may browse PL even though they don't live in the Ph and recognise me. If that happened it would be a disaster.
At the moment I am just window shopping on PL without a photo on my profile but should I get out there I will have to post a photo.
It would be a real shame to miss out on PL action but it's worrying.
Would welcome any thoughts on the matter.
My fear is that they may browse PL even though they don't live in the Ph and recognise me. If that happened it would be a disaster.
You have answered your own question.
Once you put your photo on PL, you lose control over who will see it.
Having lived in the PH for the past 28 years, I work on the principle that "if something can go wrong, it will", and I plan accordingly.
Your problem is compounded by the fact that PL has a global audience, and you don't know who is browsing it. This means that you will never know who will see your photo and pass the information on.
Red rope: when two women perform oral sex on a man. One woman hangs upside down hanging from a red rope, while performing oral sex on a man, while the other woman spins the rope. Then the assisting woman lets go of the tightly spun rope, while Miss Upside-Down still performs oral sex, whilst spinning in the other direction.Shit Trev,
Feeling dizzy just thinking about it.
Plus, you'd have to pay two girls for the one BJ.
As for the fire and ice BJ, I can't see too many Pina's having that intention in their minds.
It's hard enough to educate them on how to give a slow hand job.
Just from experience _ Phil.
Old And Ugly
04-03-25, 16:16
Shit Trev,
Feeling dizzy just thinking about it.
Plus, you'd have to pay two girls for the one BJ.
As for the fire and ice BJ, I can't see too many Pina's having that intention in their minds.
It's hard enough to educate them on how to give a slow hand job.
Just from experience _ Phil.I had fire and ice in US, and only ice cream ice from my GF in PH, very interesting sensations.
About the red rope: I know one that is up for it, and it has experience hanging upside down, a Avalon dancer, that used to hang upside down at the XS, but the logistics are a bit complicated, like where to find a place with a high enough ceiling, and the support mechanism that's sturdy enough not to fall apart, and break the girls neck, and your dick.
Alexandra2525
04-03-25, 16:29
You have answered your own question.
Once you put your photo on PL, you lose control over who will see it.
Having lived in the PH for the past 28 years, I work on the principle that "if something can go wrong, it will", and I plan accordingly.
Your problem is compounded by the fact that PL has a global audience, and you don't know who is browsing it. This means that you will never know who will see your photo and pass the information on.You're right, but I was hoping that someone on ISG had a cunning solution of some kind. I was thinking of using someone else's photo, obviously someone about the same age and similar looks ie not some kind of 20 year old male model LOL.
I'd only be looking for paid action not free hook ups so as long as I'm not hideous looking (which I'm not) a freelancer shouldn't be too bothered when she meets me and realises the picture isn't real.
Or I could whatsapp my real picture to any prospective girls and explain that I used a false pic in the profile to remain anonymous.
Old And Ugly
04-03-25, 17:09
You're right, but I was hoping that someone on ISG had a cunning solution of some kind. I was thinking of using someone else's photo, obviously someone about the same age and similar looks ie not some kind of 20 year old male model LOL.
I'd only be looking for paid action not free hook ups so as long as I'm not hideous looking (which I'm not) a freelancer shouldn't be too bothered when she meets me and realises the picture isn't real.
Or I could whatsapp my real picture to any prospective girls and explain that I used a false pic in the profile to remain anonymous.Just use a similar looking dude's photo, we all look the same to the philipinas anyway, and besides that they don't really care who they fuck for money, when faced with you, they will not refuse you, even if you look way different.
My fear is that they may browse PL even though they don't live in the Ph and recognise me. If that happened it would be a disaster.
At the moment I am just window shopping on PL without a photo on my profile but should I get out there I will have to post a photo.No photo screams psycho or scammer so between the girls' reservations and the site's algorithm you will get next to zero replies. You need a photo, any photo. Phil is correct that girls, esp naughty girls, take very little notice of profiles and photos so no need to post anything too elaborate. RK is also correct that should you post your true photo, then at least one of your friends will see it and, given Philippinos' live of gossip, will then tell everyone. I certainly wouldn't put it past them 'accidentally' mentioning it to your GF even if it was just to stir the pot and see the reaction.
Fake photos are everywhere: google white male 50, face book etc. Now, there are even some very realistic AI engines.
Enjoy. G.
I had fire and ice in US, and only ice cream ice from my GF in PH, very interesting sensations.
About the red rope: I know one that is up for it, and it has experience hanging upside down, a Avalon dancer, that used to hang upside down at the XS, but the logistics are a bit complicated, like where to find a place with a high enough ceiling, and the support mechanism that's sturdy enough not to fall apart, and break the girls neck, and your dick.This is one that I would leave to the professionals. I could just imagine a jury rigged contraption, bolted to a rickety ceiling somewhere, collapsing while an untrained tart comes crashing down with my dick in her mouth. Of course, her instinctive reaction would be to bite down. 😳.
What could possibly go wrong? 👎.
G.
Transporter
04-03-25, 21:30
Shit Trev,Feeling dizzy just thinking about it. Plus, you'd have to pay two girls for the one BJ.As for the fire and ice BJ, I can't see too many Pina's having that intention in their minds. It's hard enough to educate them on how to give a slow hand job.Just from experience _ Phil.Its actually multiple scarfs (red cloth) not really a rope, that would kind of be painful especially when you are using it. And its only one girl unless you request 2 (2 is nice, but sometimes I don't have the patience, its all about me) . If there are 2 then usually one is in training and just assisting / learning. It was "outlawed" back in the early 2000's, got so popular that a lot of girls started doing it, and some got injured and when 1 finally died, they raided the places and put a stop to it. Normally the "red rope" girls train for many many years to do that, it is easy to get hurt if you don't have the proper training. My MO was to reserve the "master" when I went. Yes she was older usually in her twenties, but at least I knew she had well over a decade of training to do this. Damn brings back memories I miss the red rope and the swat teams.
I was thinking of using someone else's photo, obviously someone about the same age and similar looks ie not some kind of 20 year old male model LOL.
I'd only be looking for paid action not free hook ups so as long as I'm not hideous looking (which I'm not) a freelancer shouldn't be too bothered when she meets me and realises the picture isn't real.
Or I could whatsapp my real picture to any prospective girls and explain that I used a false pic in the profile to remain anonymous.You could do all that, but the "photo matching" software might catch you out too.
You're in the Philippines. Remember my slogan "if something can go wrong, it will".
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