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And DG, I'll gladly pay the 550 for you to take a hike. Where'd this guy come from?Mr. Slippery I am exiting March 10th and will gladly let you pay my exit fee from your pocket full of cash.
And DG, I'll gladly pay the 550 for you to take a hike. Where'd this guy come from?Calm down Slippery, I don't think he means it the way it may read. In any event life is to fleeting nes pa?
AV
Fully agree with you. I just had 10 action-packed days in Manila and whenever I used a taxi, the driver switched on the meter and got me safely to my destination. It's just I would never tell a driver or anyone else that I'm carrying a lot of cash with me.
Thanks for the information, I didn't know that.
Cheers!You are welcome. I always have 550php in cash to pay the departure tax. So don't get rid of all your pesos before you get to the airport. There was some chatter, probably on another site about how some immigration officers will take your remaining cash / pesos as you are leaving. It has never happened to me and I really don't see how they could. Lots of general Filipino rip off comments that I have not found out to be true. IMO Philippines is pretty safe and the people are very nice. Glad you had a great time.
I found myself in Manila today for the first time in awhile, but I was quickly reminded of the reasons I do not like it here. Upon arrival on a domestic flight I collected my bags and proceeded to grab a cab. Some guy came up to me and offered his services. Upon consulting his official price list he quoted me 750 php to my hotel which is not far from the us embassy. I declined and strolled to Bay 19 and took a metered yellow cab which cost 206 php. I checked in and grabbed a cab to Robinson's Mall for a bite to eat, cab fare was 54php. I ate in a nice Filipino restaruant in front of Friday's. A western man around 50 came in for lunch accompanied by his target, a young woman accompanied by 5 relatives. They eagerly grabbed the menu's and this poor sucker was going to pick up the tab for all. Upon leaving we grabbed another cab who asked for 100 php to take me back to my hotel. I declined and asked him to turn on the meter, he declined and asked me to exit his cab which I did. The next cab driver turned on the meter and drove me back for 54 php, I was happy to give him a 100 as he was nice and honest. I am no expert on human behavior or body English, but it was so obvious the girl was going to soak the poor sucker in the restaruant, and her family were displaying none of the common decency displayed by most Filipinos. I can only assume she was a Cherry Blossom find (etc) , there are thousands of nice girls here with nice family's, though they all wil want at least some of your money, her tits looked like foam to me anyway. No need to wine and dine her low life family, stick to p4p, it can be cheaper.
[QUOTE=Dg8787; 1533516]Mr. Slippery I am exiting March 10th and will gladly let you pay my exit fee from your pocket full of cash. [/QUOTE.
Yeah, just let me know the time and wait for me outside of Terminal 1. Good riddance.
Fast Eddie 48
02-19-14, 16:14
Maybe or maybe not. Sometimes we get lost in our self-importance. Yes, you have to be careful but not all taxi drivers will rip you off. 90 some per cent will not rip you off like that. Yes, you do have to be careful but you do have to have some acceptable tolerances or please exit the country for everyone's good. I was going to state you are free to exit anytime but it does cost you P550 to exit.To DG.
Yes not all taxi driver in manila will scam you but most will try if you are Foreigner, I think taxi driver in Manila and Jarkata are the worst in the World but in cebu or other city in PI is not that bad.
Fast Eddie 48
Mr. Slippery I am exiting March 10th and will gladly let you pay my exit fee from your pocket full of cash. Yeah, just let me know the time and wait for me outside of Terminal 1. Good riddance.10:55pm United flight to Guam. Better yet if I may ride with you in your taxi ride to the airport?
To DG.
Yes not all taxi driver in manila will scam you but most will try if you are Foreigner, I think taxi driver in Manila and Jarkata are the worst in the World but in cebu or other city in PI is not that bad.
Fast Eddie 48FE 48,
I agree with you that a few will commit misdemeanor scams on you. I have it happen to me but I have figured it is within my loss tolerances. Sometimes I get a good laugh out of it! There was a hotel in Manila that the door men tried to steer you to their own taxis that charged double the price. They would not let normal taxis line up there. They were dumb enough to quote the price up front upon asking them. The hotel has since fired these door men and you get the regular taxi lineup.
In Manila I have cell phone numbers to a couple fair price taxi drivers who I call. When one is not available I call the other ones. During peak hours in Manila (also in Cebu) it is almost impossible to hail a taxi. Sometimes it is a 2 hour wait in the taxi lines at the malls. I usually schedule in advance with my taxi driver to pick me up at the mall to avoid the 2 hour wait.
My suggestion is if you found a good driver, get his number or her number. Yes, I did run into a rare woman taxi driver.
GoodEnough
02-19-14, 23:34
To DG.
Yes not all taxi driver in manila will scam you but most will try if you are Foreigner, I think taxi driver in Manila and Jarkata are the worst in the World but in cebu or other city in PI is not that bad.
Fast Eddie 48Funny, I've lived here for 10+ years, come to Manila every week and while here take taxis almost every day. I think I could easily count on two hands the number of times taxi drivers have tried to rip me off. The huge majority of the time, they are courteous and honest, though the condition of the vehicles often leaves a lot to be desired.
GE
LukeSkywalker
02-20-14, 02:12
I know a few American guys who felt really good to be generous to these young girls and their families. They would pay for anything the girls ask for.
When the guys realized they have been drained of all their money, they become very angry and bitter.
It's best to keep relationships rational. Sometimes the honest and fair P4P girls make you feel better and safer than those "good" girls who are always scheming to swindle from you.
I.
I ate in a nice Filipino restaruant in front of Friday's. A western man around 50 came in for lunch accompanied by his target, a young woman accompanied by 5 relatives. They eagerly grabbed the menu's and this poor sucker was going to pick up the tab for all.
I am no expert on human behavior or body English, but it was so obvious the girl was going to soak the poor sucker in the restaruant, and her family were displaying none of the common decency displayed by most Filipinos. I can only assume she was a Cherry Blossom find (etc) , there are thousands of nice girls here with nice family's, though they all wil want at least some of your money, her tits looked like foam to me anyway. No need to wine and dine her low life family, stick to p4p, it can be cheaper.
FreebieFan
02-20-14, 02:14
10:55pm United flight to Guam. Better yet if I may ride with you in your taxi ride to the airport?Two words. And maybe they are GROW UP. Then again maybe they arent.
FreebieFan
02-20-14, 02:17
Many guys here put health in danger by having way too much sex.
But have pity on the Australian marsupial that has frequent 14 hour sessions, THEN DIES.
It could be compared to some of our finer mongers in having " very shaggy, very hairy" bodies.
The rest of the report can be found here.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/new-type-of-marsupial-which-mates-frantically-then-dies-has-been-discovered-9139270.html
We miss you FiftyP!
I think taxi driver in Manila and Jarkata are the worst in the WorldHuh? I consider the Bluebirds or Silverbirds in Jakarta as excellent compared with the taxi mafia from Malaysia. Also the taxis in Manila are better than Malaysian taxis, but I have to admit that I know Makati and Ortigas area only.
Cheers!
Funny, I've lived here for 10+ years, come to Manila every week and while here take taxis almost every day. I think I could easily count on two hands the number of times taxi drivers have tried to rip me off. The huge majority of the time, they are courteous and honest, though the condition of the vehicles often leaves a lot to be desired.I'd want to re-quote GE's post in its entirety (almost) because my experience is the same.
I've lived in Manila for 17 years now and use taxis almost every day to go everywhere including from Ortigas to Malate now and again. I know I can easily count on one hand the number of times a taxi driver has tried to rip me off. I virtually NEVER have to ask them to use the meter.
Most are courteous and honest, and they enjoy having a chat too. I always ask them which province they are from etc and having been all over I can usually talk to them about their home province.
I know someone will jump on here and say that GE and I are living in some parallel universe and we cannot be telling the truth but I have no reason not to relate accurately my own experience.
I am sure taxi drivers recognise that we don't dress like "tourists" or "visitors" (shorts, singlets, sandals etc), and we always know where is our destination and the best way to get there.
I'd want to re-quote GE's post in its entirety (almost) because my experience is the same.
I've lived in Manila for 17 years now and use taxis almost every day to go everywhere including from Ortigas to Malate now and again. I know I can easily count on one hand the number of times a taxi driver has tried to rip me off. I virtually NEVER have to ask them.
I am sure taxi drivers recognise that we don't dress like "tourists" or "visitors" (shorts, singlets, sandals etc) , and we always know where is our destination and the best way to get there.I think we can all agree that if you have not lived here for 10 years or read this site you will pay too much when departing the airport. You are first accosted by the rip off taxis when leaving the airport.
With regard to the rest of the city I have had several bad experiences when asking for a short ride from Robinson's in Ermita. (I have also enjoyed many courteous and honest drivers.) My wife was with me for several of the bad rides. I hope I don't look like Gomer Pyle (sucker).Years ago I was a Peace Corps volunteer so I have some travel skills and hate sandals as I have nail fungus.
Wicked Roger
02-20-14, 12:18
Funny, I've lived here for 10+ years, come to Manila every week and while here take taxis almost every day. I think I could easily count on two hands the number of times taxi drivers have tried to rip me off. The huge majority of the time, they are courteous and honest, though the condition of the vehicles often leaves a lot to be desired.
GEI tend to agree with GE (and RK) on this. Manila is the worst case for me while Cebu and Davao are excellent for taxis but it really is rare and when it does happen it is easy to correct. Now try a taxi in Cairo and you will think Manila is really innocent!
Not only vehicle condition as a hunky guy like yours truly sometimes has to squeeze into the car unlike other Asian countries LOL.
I represented 5 taxi companies in the USA for many years. It was pretty much a break even thing unless the drivers were in accidents that weren't there fault in which case they were sent to me and I made some nice money. But over the years I got to know almost every driver from every one of those companies personally. Perhaps 110 drivers over the years. When I get in a taxi wearing whatever, I am automatically very sympathetic with the driver given my past background. About 20% of the time they refuse to turn the meter on."Up to you sir." Maybe they don't know that I live here as 90% of the time I'm indeed in shorts and flip flops."Up to you sir" to me, is a recipe for disaster. I then repeat my request for the meter. There is either a refusal or "meter broken sir." I then tell them to stop the cab and the dumb a$$es keep going! Eventually they stop and I leave. Of course then I'm stuck in "no mans' land" and looking for another cab.
The other one that purely pisses me off, given my sympathy for how hard and long these guys work is when I want to go down to a well known corner in Ermita from my place in Malate.
I know its a 52-55 peso ride without any traffic and 71 if its really bad. Again, I know how bad it is for the drivers so I'll tell them not to turn the meter on and I'll give you 80, 90 or even 100 depending on what time of the day it is. Another 20% of these a$$holes demand more, even when they're being paid well with the meter off! That's pure cash in their pockets.
The distinguishing factor appears to be where you are when you first get in that taxi. There's probably much less of a propensity for a driver to be crooked in Makati, The Fort, Global City, Alabang or other locales. Indeed, Ermita is crap and invites crap. I'm on the "nice end" of Malate but still have to deal with a dishonest taxi driver at least once a week.
[QUOTE=Slippery; 1534446]I represented 5 taxi companies in the USA for many years. It was pretty much a break even thing unless the drivers were in accidents that weren't there fault in which case they were sent to me and I made some nice money. But over the years I got to know almost every driver from every one of those companies personally. Perhaps 110 drivers over the years. When I get in a taxi wearing whatever, I am automatically very sympathetic with the driver given my past background. About 20% of the time they refuse to turn the meter on."Up to you sir." Maybe they don't know that I live here as 90% of the time I'm indeed in shorts and flip flops."Up to you sir" to me, is a recipe for disaster. I then repeat my request for the meter. If there is either a refusal or "meter broken sir." I then tell them to stop the cab and the dumb a$$es keep going! Eventually they stop and I leave. Of course then I'm stuck in "no mans' land" and looking for another cab.
The other one that purely pisses me off, given my sympathy for how hard and long these guys work is when I want to go down to a well known corner in Ermita from my place in Malate.
I know its a 52-55 peso ride without any traffic and 71 if its really bad. Again, I know how bad it is for the drivers so I'll tell them not to turn the meter on and I'll give you 80, 90 or even 100 depending on what t ime of the day it is. Another 20% of these a$$holes demand more, even when they're being paid well with the meter off! That's pure cash in their pockets and they're trying to jam me. And then they don't even know how to get to where I want to go!
The distinguishing factor appears to be where you are when you first get in that taxi. There's probably much less of a likelihood of encountering a dishonest driver in a more affluent part of the city. Never had a problem at the airport either, but I know my way around there. Several times drivers have offered to have them take me to my place 15-18 minutes away for "only 1, 400."
Zeppelin029
02-20-14, 13:18
Thought I'd add my two cents re. The taxi situation.
Seems to be lost on many of these cabbies that if you're pleasant and respectable, more often than not they'll get a worthwhile tip. Keeping in mind, as a few have pointed out. 50 pesos here and there is barely a dollar for us.
My personal experience, my cab from the EDSA complex to green belt, was a certain price. The girl wanted to go drink, and he wanted another 100 pesos to go to Burgos st. I told him 50 and no more. Stuck between a rock and a hard place because you have company, and it is late.
On the other hand, my taxi from AC back to NAIA was meant to be 1500p, flat rate. As others have described, the driver was friendly and we talked about him not having ever been to MoA despite dropping people there and the corruption in the government. When we arrived, I gave him an extra 300p, and he said "this is too much sir". So there you go, as is the case con most parts of the world, people are mostly honest trying to get by. But if you try to take advantage, there should be little tolerance for it.
I agree with RK, and GE.
I usually get in the front, and chat with the drivr all the way. His province, family, kids, income etc.
They are usually pretty happy that a foreigner takes a personal interest in them.
If I am going to a difficult destination, I say to the driver. Meter plus X, where X could be 50, 100, 200.
Neve had a knock back, never an argument. Because we both know exactly what the result will be easy.
I'd want to re-quote GE's post in its entirety (almost) because my experience is the same.
I've lived in Manila for 17 years now and use taxis almost every day to go everywhere including from Ortigas to Malate now and again. I know I can easily count on one hand the number of times a taxi driver has tried to rip me off. I virtually NEVER have to ask them to use the meter.
Most are courteous and honest, and they enjoy having a chat too. I always ask them which province they are from etc and having been all over I can usually talk to them about their home province.
I know someone will jump on here and say that GE and I are living in some parallel universe and we cannot be telling the truth but I have no reason not to relate accurately my own experience.
I am sure taxi drivers recognise that we don't dress like "tourists" or "visitors" (shorts, singlets, sandals etc) , and we always know where is our destination and the best way to get there.
It looks like I am going to be staying in Dasmarinas with a honey for 10 days or so.
For a couple of nights, I will be on my own.
Does anyone know of any girlie bars, or similar, in the Cavite area?
Thanks in anticipation.
G
PeterTaylor
02-20-14, 19:13
Hi folks,
I am going to make my "cherry" Phil visit from 31 March. I have booked 3 nights in La Corona. Maybe a mistake given some comments in the Hotel section, but got great deal for Executive Suite. They wanted 800 pesos for car from Airport, so I plan to take organised cab from Airport. Is that sensible or should I pay the extra? I plan to see a couple DIA girls, visit MBC and pop into some clubs in EDSA. Any advice as to which clubs or other areas. Any to avoid / must dos?
I then plan to go to Angeles via Southern Cross bus. Stay in ABC for 5 nights. I will post there, but happy to listen to any advice.
Peter
Hi folks,
I am going to make my "cherry" Phil visit from 31 March. I have booked 3 nights in La Corona. Maybe a mistake given some comments in the Hotel section, but got great deal for Executive Suite. They wanted 800 pesos for car from Airport, so I plan to take organised cab from Airport. Is that sensible or should I pay the extra? I plan to see a couple DIA girls, visit MBC and pop into some clubs in EDSA. Any advice as to which clubs or other areas. Any to avoid / must dos?
I then plan to go to Angeles via Southern Cross bus. Stay in ABC for 5 nights. I will post there, but happy to listen to any advice.
PeterThere's a continuous stream of cabs available at the airport. P800 is way too much, cancel that. Either get a yellow cab which will use a meter & is fair price or if going in other cabs inform the driver your destination & ask how much. Don't agree more than P400, wave him off & get another or insist on meter. Be aware that meters are often fiddled in non yellow cabs. As a local I never ask meter instead settling for haggling the price up front the same as all the other locals.
DIA girls can be a time wasting lottery. If you're very time limited don't focus on them too much, just include them as a nice distraction to your main event. Likewise MBC, some nights the place is a gold mine, some nights a desert. If you're only in Manila 3 days EDSA or Burgos St bars are an expensive but reliable method to get laid.
If your hotel is in Malate/Ermita then your main area of operations is Robinson's mall day time & MBC, Amazon's & the many KTV'S at night. EDSA is a little way from where you are & Burgos even further. Traffic can be a real pain, factor that in your time budget otherwise you will waste your 72 hours sitting in cabs in traffic jams.
The bus from Swaggies to AC is clean, safe, cheap but a little long winded method to get there. I almost always recommend book a car from your hotel to AC. This is a little higher priced but faster & more comfortable. Don't hail a cab off the street for this, bad idea. 5 nights in AC will see you ready to check in to a hospital for exhaustion. There is more cheap P4P girls per square in than anywhere else in PI. Be aware, most still bare back there due to constant influx of 'fresh of the farm' girls. Up to you how you view this.
You should have an absolute blast.
AV
Radical Guy
02-20-14, 22:19
There's a continuous stream of cabs available at the airport. P800 is way too much, cancel that. Either get a yellow cab which will use a Meyer & is fair price or if going in other cabs inform the driver your destination & ask how much. Don't agree more than P400, wave him off & get another or insist on Meyer. Be aware that metres are often fiddled in non yellow cabs. As a local I never ask meter settling for haggling the price up front.I ususlly go for the meter-fare yellow taxis, but last time I arrived in Manila there was a line a mile long waiting for them (Terminal 3). So, I bit the bulet at paid 600 pesos for a quick taxi to Malate. After all, time is money.
RG
I tried searching and rtfm but could not find my answer. I'm visiting MNL again and trying to decide where to stay. I really had good luck with EDSA last time and MBC was hit and miss. My question is how early do the bars open at EDSA?
FreebieFan
02-21-14, 01:46
I'd want to re-quote GE's post in its entirety (almost) because my experience is the same.
I've lived in Manila for 17 years now and use taxis almost every day to go everywhere including from Ortigas to Malate now and again. I know I can easily count on one hand the number of times a taxi driver has tried to rip me off. I virtually NEVER have to ask them to use the meter.
Most are courteous and honest, and they enjoy having a chat too. I always ask them which province they are from etc and having been all over I can usually talk to them about their home province.
I know someone will jump on here and say that GE and I are living in some parallel universe and we cannot be telling the truth but I have no reason not to relate accurately my own experience.
I am sure taxi drivers recognise that we don't dress like "tourists" or "visitors" (shorts, singlets, sandals etc) , and we always know where is our destination and the best way to get there. Not having your 17 years, but having had 5 there and countless visits, I'd second what RK and GE has said. I usually throw a little Tagalog in at the begining just so we all know the score.
One day I didn't do this and the driver started telling me he couldn't use the meter as it was a public holiday and that taxis were exempt from meter useage on such days. I nodded then suggested " Pare, paki hinaan radyo mo " (please turn down the volume on your radio ). He looked with bug eyes and said " Sir, your not a tourist" I replied no, he smiled, put the meter on and we both had a laugh and a joke. Thats the only rip off attempt I can recall.
I ususlly go for the meter-fare yellow taxis, but last time I arrived in Manila there was a line a mile long waiting for them (Terminal 3). So, I bit the bulet at paid 600 pesos for a quick taxi to Malate. After all, time is money.
RGCorrect, the queues fow the yellows are usually too big for me to bother hence I grab a normal Manila cab.
BTW, P600 is too much for NAIA <==> Malate.
AV
I ususlly go for the meter-fare yellow taxis, but last time I arrived in Manila there was a line a mile long waiting for them (Terminal 3). So, I bit the bulet at paid 600 pesos for a quick taxi to Malate. After all, time is money.
RGOne of the smartest comments posted here. Time is money! Sometimes I have more time than money and other times I have more money than time. I spend accordingly.
Correct, the queues fow the yellows are usually too big for me to bother hence I grab a normal Manila cab.
BTW, P600 is too much for NAIA <== Malate.
AVThree to four times too much. Took a taxi from Resorts World, which is across the road from NAIA terminal 3, to Malate's Remedios Circle during weeknight rush hour and paid p150 including tip. The route was Andrews Ave to Roxas Blvd, and northbound traffic on Roxas was free flowing. The only "hassle" I had was when I got in I saw the meter was already running for a more than a minute, so I told the driver to reset it, which he did. Like others who have commented I too very rarely have had any problem with the drivers; the most frequent being, and it isn't, the guy forgetting to start the meter, which is almost always rectified when I tell him to do so. If not I exit.
Anyway, from the airport catch a taxi at the departures drop off area. I've never had to pay more than p50 above the metered fare; this was negotiated prior to my getting in.
I must have that "here is a sucker" look to me. Next time one of you studs is in Davao let me know so I can watch you walk across the water to Samal Island.
Radical Guy
02-21-14, 12:23
Correct, the queues fow the yellows are usually too big for me to bother hence I grab a normal Manila cab.
BTW, P600 is too much for NAIA <== Malate.
AVYeah, I knew I was getting ripped off, but no one in the white taxi lane was offering better, and I wanted to get to my hotel. I'm not going to sweat over 12 bucks.
I nodded then suggested " Pare, paki hinaan radyo mo " (please turn down the volume on your radio ). He looked with bug eyes and said " Sir, your not a tourist"Well done, FF. I can't do this in Tagalog but I can in a couple other SE Asian languages and the effect is almost always the same. The guy suddenly looks at you in a whole different way and everything is cool. It's a great argument for anyone living in this part of the world to buckle down a bit and study the language. The rewards are more than worth it, and that's even before we get to dealing with the girls.
I offered a driver 100 to take me to my home 8 blocks away with meter off because there was traffic. Asshole wanted 200. Study the language? They learn "fuck you" very quickly. Then they go down the street with no fare.
WestCoast1
02-21-14, 14:40
Yeah, I knew I was getting ripped off, but no one in the white taxi lane was offering better, and I wanted to get to my hotel. I'm not going to sweat over 12 bucks.I'm now getting in the habit of having the hotel pick me up at the airport. Its p600-800, which is more expensive than the yellow taxi's or white vans. But there is no wait time, and there's a driver waiting just for me. Small tater's when you think about the frequency.
I'm now getting in the habit of having the hotel pick me up at the airport. Its p600-800, which is more expensive than the yellow taxi's or white vans. But there is no wait time, and there's a driver waiting just for me. Small tater's when you think about the frequency.Perhaps it is a corporate rate, but I think I only pay p400 from one of those private car companies you find outside terminal 1 on the other side of the arrivals exit. I always use Nissan and it is hassle and worry free. Have any of you guys tried them?
Not having your 17 years, but having had 5 there and countless visits, I'd second what RK and GE has said. I usually throw a little Tagalog in at the begining just so we all know the score.
One day I didn't do this and the driver started telling me he couldn't use the meter as it was a public holiday and that taxis were exempt from meter useage on such days. I nodded then suggested " Pare, paki hinaan radyo mo " (please turn down the volume on your radio ). He looked with bug eyes and said " Sir, your not a tourist" I replied no, he smiled, put the meter on and we both had a laugh and a joke. Thats the only rip off attempt I can recall.Having lived in the Phil's for five years now, I share your views. Rarely, and I mean I think I can count with two hands, the total number of times I have had an issue with a taxi guy. Perhaps Slippery had a bad experience as described. But then the venting seems somewhat overkill. Life's too short to get heated over a small thing like a taxi. Or maybe I'm too easy going.
I'd say I encounter a dishonest taxi driver at least once a week. Not wanting to use the meter or insisting on well over the generous amount I have offered are the general problems. Then there are those that just don't know where they're going.
I'd say I encounter a dishonest taxi driver at least once a week. Not wanting to use the meter or insisting on well over the generous amount I have offered are the general problems. Then there are those that just don't know where they're going.Its all part of the rich tapestry of life in the PI. One day on a taxi trip Quezon city <= NAIA the driver stops half way & asks me to get out."I don't know the way sir". I knew but he wouldn't listen. He didn't ask fare. I hailed another cab & continued on my way for half what I should have paid. Another day in the Phil's.
AV
Pinaypounder
02-23-14, 09:34
I will clearly admit that I do not have a clue about the Pinay mind. Had a small tiff with the teaser who was expecting me to plunge her wet depths so I used this as an opportunity to engage a 3 some. I advised Tease I was doing so in blunt terms and she wanted to attend to watch to "test" herself, I declined as I was worried about being shot or knifed or both. She is only 90 lbs but kinda scary in a "carrie" way.
Did the deed posted some pics and in the AM after a repeat sent them packing. Pics attached.
Tease wanted to show up DESPITE knowing full well what I have accomplished with "2 low class working girls", so she took a 1. 5 hour bus ride, brought me a gift, upon her arrival it took all of 10 minutes to bring her to her first of 5 orgasms. She then spent the rest of the afternoon with me.
Flew home to my part time filipina GF / FWB and it took about 5 minutes to get her going after fully confessing to having strayed multiple times just as I told her I would. I think her brain is mad but her pussy is happy. Thank you Pinoys for being such terrible lovers and women abusers!
Filipinas are either the best GFs in the world or the ones with the least self esteem.
4 girls in 26 hours in 2 countries is a pretty good day for this old guy, although my prior high was 6 in 36 hours in 2 countries.
PP
Pinaypounder
02-23-14, 09:39
You know your getting fucked by a Cab Driver when your Pinay escort is telling them to fuck off!
Try this solution:
You get in, you say meter, he says 400 (you know it is 120 regularly) smile and say OK.
Arrive get out, throw 120 on the seat and smile and say OK and walk away.
NEVER EVER give in to a blackmailer.
I always tip the cabbies 20. 50 % when they are proper. The girls NEVER give them even 2 pesos, its funny.
PP
Pinaypounder
02-23-14, 09:50
I found myself in Manila today for the first time in awhile, but I was quickly reminded of the reasons I do not like it here. Upon arrival on a domestic flight I collected my bags and proceeded to grab a cab. Some guy came up to me and offered his services. Upon consulting his official price list he quoted me 750 php to my hotel which is not far from the us embassy. I declined and strolled to Bay 19 and took a metered yellow cab which cost 206 php. I checked in and grabbed a cab to Robinson's Mall for a bite to eat, cab fare was 54php. I ate in a nice Filipino restaruant in front of Friday's. A western man around 50 came in for lunch accompanied by his target, a young woman accompanied by 5 relatives. They eagerly grabbed the menu's and this poor sucker was going to pick up the tab for all. Upon leaving we grabbed another cab who asked for 100 php to take me back to my hotel. I declined and asked him to turn on the meter, he declined and asked me to exit his cab which I did. The next cab driver turned on the meter and drove me back for 54 php, I was happy to give him a 100 as he was nice and honest. I am no expert on human behavior or body English, but it was so obvious the girl was going to soak the poor sucker in the restaruant, and her family were displaying none of the common decency displayed by most Filipinos. I can only assume she was a Cherry Blossom find (etc) , there are thousands of nice girls here with nice family's, though they all wil want at least some of your money, her tits looked like foam to me anyway. No need to wine and dine her low life family, stick to p4p, it can be cheaper.I have staff in Manila none of whom I sleep with (anymore.) they arrived for a meeting the other day I am pretty sure they had not eaten since the last time I fed them. 2300 pesos for 4 of us and no liquor, all had desert, I feel what the hell as I make a good living of their work while paying them well.
Point is I think they are just hungry, just like when I worked with First nations people here, I learned to feed them first if I wanted to accomplish anything at all.
2nd point who the FUCK would ever want to meet the family?
PP
You know your getting fucked by a Cab Driver when your Pinay escort is telling them to fuck off!
Try this solution:
You get in, you say meter, he says 400 (you know it is 120 regularly) smile and say OK.
Arrive get out, throw 120 on the seat and smile and say OK and walk away.
NEVER EVER give in to a blackmailer.
I always tip the cabbies 20-50% when they are proper. The girls NEVER give them even 2 pesos, its funny.
PPSorry, but that has to be one of the worst advice I have read here. You don't say yes / agree and then pay less later. If you don't agree, get out of the cab and look for another one. Use your head guys.
I have staff in Manila none of whom I sleep with (anymore.) they arrived for a meeting the other day I am pretty sure they had not eaten since the last time I fed them. 2300 pesos for 4 of us and no liquor, all had desert, I feel what the hell as I make a good living of their work while paying them well.
Point is I think they are just hungry, just like when I worked with First nations people here, I learned to feed them first if I wanted to accomplish anything at all.
2nd point who the FUCK would ever want to meet the family?
PPWhy did you reply to me with a quote, I can not make a connection between your reply and my original post.
WestCoast1
02-23-14, 16:06
I'd say I encounter a dishonest taxi driver at least once a week. Not wanting to use the meter or insisting on well over the generous amount I have offered are the general problems. Then there are those that just don't know where they're going.Wow Slip. I rarely have the dishonest or no-meter problem. On occasion a driver doesn't know where he's going, and we stop and ask directions. My last issue was mid-2013, Malate-Makati, heavy traffic. Halfway thru, I noticed the meter was off. I asked the driver to turn it on, and he asked for an exorbitant amount. I offered meter + 100 and he declined, repeating his offer. When the car came to a gridlock stop in traffic, I just stepped out of the taxi, and with the passenger door open I made the offer again. He thought about it too long, so I closed the door and walked 2 blocks and got another taxi (metered for the rest of the trip, + tip). On behalf of all tourists, I'd like to thank that first driver for a free trip. Had he mentioned the exorbitant price when I got into the taxi, or asked for some extra pesos for the long trip, this could have been avoided. I take a lot of taxis in Manila / Cebu, and I'm as gringo-looking as can be. There is little sympathy on my part for drivers who purposely don't turn on the meter without discussing it with me first (it simply means he was about to hit me at the end of the trip with the exorbitant price).
Good move. I caution drivers that the meter is for their protection. It's their proof of fare. If the meter reads zero, that's what the passenger owes. If they have any doubts, we can call the LTFRB. More commonly nowadays in Manila, the meter is already running when you get in. If you have any doubt, get him to reset it. Finally, don't get too much on your high horse. Driving is stressful, and some of them carry guns.
Wow Slip. I rarely have the dishonest or no-meter problem. On occasion a driver doesn't know where he's going, and we stop and ask directions. My last issue was mid-2013, Malate-Makati, heavy traffic. Halfway thru, I noticed the meter was off. I asked the driver to turn it on, and he asked for an exorbitant amount. I offered meter + 100 and he declined, repeating his offer. When the car came to a gridlock stop in traffic, I just stepped out of the taxi, and with the passenger door open I made the offer again. He thought about it too long, so I closed the door and walked 2 blocks and got another taxi (metered for the rest of the trip, + tip). On behalf of all tourists, I'd like to thank that first driver for a free trip. Had he mentioned the exorbitant price when I got into the taxi, or asked for some extra pesos for the long trip, this could have been avoided. I take a lot of taxis in Manila / Cebu, and I'm as gringo-looking as can be. There is little sympathy on my part for drivers who purposely don't turn on the meter without discussing it with me first (it simply means he was about to hit me at the end of the trip with the exorbitant price).
LukeSkywalker
02-23-14, 18:39
I heard from a few sources that girls are available in Manila and AC for 200 Php ST and 500 Php LT.
Where and how these deals are available? I prefer to stay in Manila, find a good-looking girl and take her to Cebu.
Are the girls young, OK looking, drugs and diseases free?
Would appreciate more info.
WestCoast1
02-23-14, 21:55
I heard from a few sources that girls are available in Manila and AC for 200 Php ST and 500 Php LT.
Where and how these deals are available? I prefer to stay in Manila, find a good-looking girl and take her to Cebu.
Are the girls young, OK looking, drugs and diseases free?
Would appreciate more info.What sources did you get this info from? Please read the AC thread.
LukeSkywalker
02-23-14, 21:56
Especially in stop and go heavy traffic in Manila, driving taxi can be very stressful and fatiguing. Most of the older taxi drivers I met had their muscles atrophied down to pretty much bare bones, most likely due to poor blood circulation under stress, and sitting in the cars all day with little exercise.
I was carpooling with a couple guys to work, about 1 hour in stop-and-go freeway traffic everyday. The stop-and-go actions would pump up the adrenaline then let it down, causing severe stress in the nerve system and the muscles. Most guys cannot drive more than 2 days in a row without having the deep mental and physical fatigue, such that there is no strength left to do any mental or physical work. Everyone dreads the hour-long drive to work, well, except a young, body builder strong as an ox. He can drive 7 days a week and feels fine.
Taxi in Manila is pretty cheap, at least compared to what I would have to pay in the US. I hired a taxi to search a few fishbowls all over Ermita and Makati, driving and waiting for about an hour. At the end back at the hotel with a very pretty young girl in my arms, the driver wanted 500 Php which was about US$12. Knowing their rates, that was a very generous offer for him.
Some bros reported routine trips from AC to Manila's Aquino Int Airport, a distance over 50 miles and potentially 2 to 3 hours depending on traffic, all for 2500 Php or about US$60. The driver have to make round trip drive of about 120 miles, which would cost him about 6 gallon of gas or about US$30 so he earns $30 for half a day work.
It's a very hard life to make a living driving taxis anywhere. It helps to empathize and reduce stress for taxi drivers. Chances are you can get to where want to go safely, quickly and cheaply.
Well, this strategy did not work in Bangkok. The damn young driver claimed he did not know directions from Sukkhumvit to the tourists' Khaosan area on the Chaophraya river. He was wandering around all over Bangkok, stopping to ask locals for directions, gazing at the sky, scratching his ass. He pissed me off and I gave him peanuts.
Youtube had a recent video of a dispute between a farang and his Bangkok taxi driver. After a bit of creaming and yelling, the driver took a long machete from his trunk, chased down the passenger and drove it all the way through the back of his chest. The guy died instantly on the street in a big oozing pool of blood. Lot of passer-bys just walked right past the dying guy, without being concerned or upset by the violence.
SHIT. Taxi drivers probably have the most bad days of all occupations.
Good move. I caution drivers that the meter is for their protection. It's their proof of fare. If the meter reads zero, that's what the passenger owes. If they have any doubts, we can call the LTFRB. More commonly nowadays in Manila, the meter is already running when you get in. If you have any doubt, get him to reset it. Finally, don't get too much on your high horse. Driving is stressful, and some of them carry guns.
Soapy Smith
02-24-14, 00:15
Especially in stop and go heavy traffic in Manila, driving taxi can be very stressful and fatiguing. Most of the older taxi drivers I met had their muscles atrophied down to pretty much bare bones, most likely due to poor blood circulation under stress, and sitting in the cars all day with little exercise.And poor diet, sleeping on a hard floor amidst six or eight other family members and tenants, and living in (everyday, all day long) very close quarters with millions of other poor Filipinos.
Cunning Stunt
02-24-14, 02:53
I heard from a few sources that girls are available in Manila and AC for 200 Php ST and 500 Php LT.
Where and how these deals are available? I prefer to stay in Manila, find a good-looking girl and take her to Cebu.
Are the girls young, OK looking, drugs and diseases free?
Would appreciate more info.Sure. You can pick up 200 pesos a pop chicks in Manila. Here is an example of what you would get. Gentlemen, form an orderly queue!
LukeSkywalker
02-24-14, 03:15
Hi Cunning Stunt.
Congrats for having such a beauty for girl friend and thank you for showing her picture.
You must enjoy her toothless blow job techniques a few times a day.
Sure. You can pick up 200 pesos a pop chicks in Manila. Here is an example of what you would get. Gentlemen, form an orderly queue!
Some bros reported routine trips from AC to Manila's Aquino Int Airport, a distance over 50 miles and potentially 2 to 3 hours depending on traffic, all for 2500 Php or about US$60. The driver have to make round trip drive of about 120 miles, which would cost him about 6 gallon of gas or about US$30 so he earns $30 for half a day work.Given that the metro Manila minimum wage is officially p466 per 8-hour day his $30 earnings for 4-6 hours of work isn't that bad. But this "big payday" is not all what it seems. Keep in mind that the guy has to lease the taxi at approx. P1500 per day too, so it appears he's making very little, and perhaps even losing money, on that Angeles run if he doesn't find a return passenger. Drivers typically work a 24-hour day-on / day-off shift, most starting at 6am. If you're taking a long journey in the wee hours keep an eye on your driver to make sure he doesn't drift off.
Cunning Stunt
02-24-14, 04:06
Congrats for having such a beauty for girl friend and thank you for showing her picture.Hahaha. Don't mention it. Purely an example of the delights which await the cheapo's on ISG looking for shoestring pokes.
Sure. You can pick up 200 pesos a pop chicks in Manila. Here is an example of what you would get. Gentlemen, form an orderly queue!What a find, amazing. So many choices in this wide wide world!
WestCoast1
02-24-14, 05:23
Here is an example of what you would get. Gentlemen, form an orderly queue!How'd you get a picture of my exwife?
WC
LukeSkywalker
02-24-14, 05:42
Your ex-wife was voted the beauty queen of Manila's Terminal AIDS University.
How'd you get a picture of my exwife?
WC
LukeSkywalker
02-24-14, 10:55
I realize cabbies still have to pay rent for the taxis, which leaves them little profit.
A 24-hour continuous driving shift can be very dangerous. The drivers would be half asleep after 12 hours. They can cause big accidents. Man. It is a very hard life, having to drive 24 hours straight everyday to make a living.
I was at San Jose Int Airport in Silicon Valley. A lot of people are using smart phone to hire independent cabs managed by a few internet companies. They all drive the very fuel.efficient and big Toyota Hybrid Prius. While there were plenty of normal cabs waiting around the terminal, the passengers were willing to wait fairly long for the indy cabs to show up, like half hour.
Apparently they must be much cheaper than the normal taxis without having to pay for license and rents for the cabs. Taxi drivers unions are all pissed off at these newbies stealing the food off their mouths. A few cities have started looking into the legal status of web-based taxis.
So may be some smart guys in Manila would stop pounding his pregnant Pinay GF for a few hours and try the same trick setting up independent web-based taxis for huge profits.
Given that the metro Manila minimum wage is officially p466 per 8-hour day his $30 earnings for 4-6 hours of work isn't that bad. But this "big payday" is not all what it seems. Keep in mind that the guy has to lease the taxi at approx. P1500 per day too, so it appears he's making very little, and perhaps even losing money, on that Angeles run if he doesn't find a return passenger. Drivers typically work a 24-hour day-on / day-off shift, most starting at 6am. If you're taking a long journey in the wee hours keep an eye on your driver to make sure he doesn't drift off.
i arrived late friday night in manila and headed straight to la cafe, which it is officially renamed to now. on the way i could not help but smell the stench of human [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109), ermita is a filthy place indeed. on the way to la cafe i was propositioned many times by the street working girls and one went as far as to lift her dress and flash her pussy at me, but i was on a mission. i might say that the quality of the street working girls was not to bad as well. didn't ask what price.
i have read the earlier reports and i have to say i was blown away by the quality of the chicks there. obviously the quality varies but i was very impressed indeed. i was too tired to try and hire a girl for the night, i thought it would be a waste of money because i had been flying all day and i was fucked. so after a couple of beers i headed back to the hotel. i wanted to got to the nightclub zzyzx, but i was just too wrecked. so i am walking back to the room and a classy looking pro latches onto me and she iis like, no cost if i don't enjoy myself, so i say how much and she is like 1500 and i decided that it was fate so i said 100 and she said ok.
headed back to the room, through security, she handed in her id and we headed to the room. i was fairly drunk but she looked ok so i fucked her and blow job and i fucked her arse, so when i finished, i offer her 2,000 for good service and then things went downhill. she's like,"give me 3,500", you fucked my arse, you did not use condom, you come in pussy, blah blah blah. i was astonished at how aggressive she was. she threatens to report me to the police, blah blah blah. luckily i was in a one bedroom apartment and the bedroom, with my cash and belongings was lockable, and it was locked. so i was not overly worried about theft. i just wanted her to fuck off so i could get some sleep. she was refusing to leave the room, eventually she agreed to leave the room and go talk to the security guy. i had to leave first, not sure why but she followed and we go to the security guard, she starts yabbering on in filipino. i just left them and went back to get some sleep.
woke up the next morning and nothing, so sweet, i owe the guard a 100 tip. checked in and i was chatting with the owner and i mentioned that i had a little trouble the previous night, she knew all about it, of course. the funny thing was she is like,"you have to be more careful who you bring back," so they don't give a rats arse. i am the customer and that is who they look after, lols.
i had a couple of people to meet via dia and fb. i burned one when i saw a recent photo of her, i refused to meet with her untill she sent me a recent photo, and i am please that i did because she was not worth meeting. so i moved onto the next target, a fb contact. i met her eventually, i must say that never to agree to meet in rizel park, its just too damn big. i walked through robinsons on the way to the park and a short middle aged bloke fell in beside me and started chatting. has a sister in perth, yaddaa yadda. i tell him i am going to meet someone and then he tells me he is a pimp and he has girls upstairs. so girls in robinsones ermita is confirmed. my fb date bought a niece with her and she was stunningly beautiful, she was 22. so we had lunch then i sent them home. met her again with an ugly aunty for dinner. agreed to meet the next day without a chaperon. i have to tell you she was drop dead gorgeous.
i spent the morning in intermuros, which is well worth a visit btw. met her in the afternoon and i took her back to the hotel and, no action. refused to even kiss, i was pretty angry so we left and went to mall of asia (which i did not like, too big). i got over it and decided it was probably better this way, she was a terrible texter wanting to know what i was doing every 5 minute and i thought, far too much maintenance. so we had dinner, went to zzyzx. she had several drinks and asked me to massage her hands, so the action got pretty steamy. she agrees to come back to my room. we get to the guard and i say to the guard, i think she should go home in a taxi. it was there on a plate, but i sent her home. i don't regret it. i went to cebu and she was nutty with incessant texting and tears. she would have been out of control if i had fucked her.
funny side note, i met her in tgif in robinsons, were sitting next to each other, she is sooo attractive and the street working girl from the first night walks by, she looked daggers at me. pissed her off big time. really made my night.
on one of my trips during the day a street walker approached me and she was very cute, i was on my way somewhere and so i said, give me you phone number. she said she didn't have a phone. man people are sooo poor there, i have never met a hooker who does not have a phone before. in la cafe the girls have basic old mobiles. so they are truely poor.
i really enjoyed manila, unlike my first visit 10 years ago. sex is available everywhere. great time. i think i will return and spend more time there next time.
Hi all
I am in Manila for 3 weeks starting tomorrow. Would appreciate any independent contacts / happy massage leads through PM. Can reciprocate for Singapore / Mumbai cities.
Thanks,
Andy
So may be some smart guys in Manila would stop pounding his pregnant Pinay GF for a few hours and try the same trick setting up independent web-based taxis for huge profits.I don't know how independent they are but web-based taxis already exist, http://grabtaxi.com/manila-philippines/. The surcharge is p70, and there may also be a charge levied by the mobile service provider. They aren't widely available yet. My driver told me it costs the driver or, more likely, the fleet owner p1500 to fit out the taxi. The driver needs a smartphone and always-on Internet service for it, too. For many it's a bridge too far.
I realize cabbies still have to pay rent for the taxis, which leaves them little profit.
A 24-hour continuous driving shift can be very dangerous. The drivers would be half asleep after 12 hours. They can cause big accidents. Man. It is a very hard life, having to drive 24 hours straight everyday to make a living.
I was at San Jose Int Airport in Silicon Valley. A lot of people are using smart phone to hire independent cabs managed by a few internet companies. They all drive the very fuel. Efficient and big Toyota Hybrid Prius. While there were plenty of normal cabs waiting around the terminal, the passengers were willing to wait fairly long for the indy cabs to show up, like half hour.
Apparently they must be much cheaper than the normal taxis without having to pay for license and rents for the cabs. Taxi drivers unions are all pissed off at these newbies stealing the food off their mouths. A few cities have started looking into the legal status of web-based taxis.
So may be some smart guys in Manila would stop pounding his pregnant Pinay GF for a few hours and try the same trick setting up independent web-based taxis for huge profits.LS, you & H are right, its a tough way to earn a living as a driver. I always advise against hiring a street cab to go to AC. Use a hotel car. More expensive but clean, safe, hassle free.
I researched the taxi industry whilst back in Oz with a view to having a little fleet in Manila. Its profitable for us owners but tough for drivers. Last time I checked daily leases in Manila were north of P1600 + gas. Don't forget breakdowns, fines & food.
Drivers need their wits about them & a little luck.
Honest, clean, friendly drivers get tips which helps a lot. I'm constantly surprised how many drivers don't get this.
All over the world cab companies are a franchise. In the west trying to work outside these franchises will quickly get you on the receiving end of expensive litigation. In Manila doing so will find you on the receiving end of a couple of. 45 cal pistol slugs to the brain from a passing motorcycle. I'll pass on that one. Business is tough in hyper competitive Asia.
AV
Asshole wanted 200. Study the language? They learn "fuck you" very quickly.It might feel good to say "fuck you" but it doesn't achieve anything. You don't get a ride and the driver doesn't go off and think, hey you know, that guy was right. All he thinks is "Fuck you too, fucking porreigner".
Watch the locals (because once in a while the drivers try it on them too) or the old-hand expats. They'll say a few words, usually with a bit of humor, and often the driver will just switch on the meter. If he doesn't, no problem, they just move on to the next cab without saying another word.
I can't think of anywhere in S. E. Asia where there's an advantage into getting upset over a driver who won't do what you want him to do in his own cab. Making a fuss over something like this is classic bull-in-a-China-shop Western newbie behavior. It doesn't impress anyone.
Not sure how much I can add here since I'm a newbie in Manila and there are a lot of veterans here. But since I got some good advice before my trip, I think it's only right to share my experiences.
I don't travel primarily for mongering-but I'm fortunate enough to love my work and to be able to choose my travel destinations based on the possibilities for after-hours fun. Really my favorite destination is Germany. I love the efficiency of the FKK clubs, and I really love tall, thin Eastern European girls. But sometimes it's a bit too easy, and maybe somewhat cold. So I thought Manila would be a good spot.
I'm often quite busy with work during the day, and this trip was no exception. Unfortunately my work is also a bit unpredictable, so I might not know for sure what time I'll be finished on any given day.
I started working DIA and FC a week or two before my trip, and I had emails and phone numbers for a dozen or so girls. But in the end I only met one. And she was a "good" girl. I'm sure I could have worked the situation, but she was also on the other side of town. I also got the distinct feeling that she would have been a handful if I fucked her. I'm not looking for intimacy or a relationship. I want good sex and I want them to leave without a hassle. I'm not looking to fall in love and I rarely repeat unless a girl is really amazing. I like variety.
In the end I spent most of my time at MBC, but I also picked up a few girls at Robinson's Mall. I'm not going to go through a play-by-play, I spent two weeks there and fucked 18 different girls, I just repeated with two who I will mention below.
I really like MBC, but then I like freelance bars in general. It's a crazy place that everyone should visit at least once. The girls range from 1's to some really solid 9's if you look hard. The hottest girls seem to hang out either upstairs or in the room down the hallway to the right from the main bar area. The hottest girls there seem a bit standoffish or cold at first. Often they congregate around the Korean guys. One girl clued me in to the rule of three-they have 3-inch dicks, they pay 3000 pesos and they are done in 3 minutes. (This was told to me by a girl, I'm not making any statements about the sexual prowess of Korean guys, since I have no first-hand information on the topic.) If there are no Koreans around, these a-list girls congregate in groups and sit around talking amongst themselves.
My first day or two I ended up somewhat frustrated. I mean I pulled sweet girls, but not the hottest ones. I sat there turning down the constant stream of ugly girls and ended up sitting alone. And it's like any real club, the hot girls aren't going to approach a loser sitting alone. After a few days I made friends with some of the bartenders (some of whom are really hot, BTW). I also got over my fear of rejection and would just approach the groups of hot girls to chat them up. They are real people, not automated hookers, so if you're fun and interesting and if you engage them in conversation, you can pull any girl in the place and you'll have a great time.
I was staying at the Best Western La Corona down the street, but I decided I wanted to limit, somewhat, the number of girls I brought back. Not because of any rules at the hotel, the hotel was fine with girls. But I knew some of my work colleagues might occasionally be at or near my hotel, and I didn't want any crazy girls around. So I generally read the situation and if I thought a girl might be crazy, high-maintenance or a problem, I took her to a short-time hotel.
If you walk out of MBC and turn to your left, a few doors down there is a pretty nice hourly hotel. It's almost next door, there is a hallway that leads into the building and no sign. The girls mostly know the place, though a few of the newbie girls don't. It was 400 pesos for three hours. The place was very clean and I had no problems. Went over time once or twice and no one cared.
Most of the girls at MBC will ask for 2-3000 pesos. The hot ones will at least. But almost all will take 1500, at least in my experience. I am 35, not too ugly, they liked my tattoos, etc. So YMMV. But I'm not rich and not extremely good looking either. So I think my experiences were normal.
Anyway, I ended up with some really pretty girls, and at least two who were solid 9's. One, was very slim with large natural tits and a really pretty face. She was amazing. The first time we went to the short-time hotel next door. She was obviously a bit new at this, but she was a great fuck and everything was on the menu. She never talked money and I gave her 2000 since she was so good. I met her three days before I left, and I ended up spending my last two nights with her too. Second night she came back to my hotel and spent the night. After some great sex before bed and in the morning, I totally forgot to pay her, and she didn't ask. I felt really bad but I didn't realize it until a while after she left. On the last night I expected her to be pissed at me, but she said nothing about it and was very passionate. It's a good thing I was leaving the next day since I easily could have fallen for that girl. She gave me her number and cried when I told her I was leaving. She didn't ask for money again but I slipped 3K into her purse when she left. She texted me all the next day until my plane took off. Ok, I kind of did fall for her which I never do with a working girl.
My other notable MBC experience was with one of the waitresses. She was really cute and I had to work her for more than a week, but it eventually paid off.
Other than MBC, I picked up a few girls at Robinson's mall. There are a few obvious streetwalkers in front of the mall. A few were doable, but I never bothered. Also some looked to be ladyboys. I found the girls in Manila to be very approachable and kind in general. I picked up one waitress at Fridays just by chatting her up. After she got off work we walked around a bit then she came back to the hotel and spent the night. Again, no money asked for, but I gave her 2k. We repeated a few days later on her day off, we actually spend the day together since I was not working, then had a fun night.
I met another few girls just walking around and had similar experiences. One thing I never managed to do was get one of those cute little Robinson's department store girls. I wanted one to wear her uniform, but no luck. I'm sure management frowns on such things, or maybe they just didn't like me.
The other thing I never managed to do was make it to other parts of Manila. It's kind of a pain to get around. And if you try to get a taxi to another part of town in the evening, it can be difficult. Some outright refuse and some want large amounts of cash. One day I planned to check out Makati but I gave up after the first few taxi drivers said no or wanted a huge fare. I'm sure it's easier at other times of day, but when I finished work in the early evening it was very difficult.
I do somewhat regret not checking out some of the other mongering spots. But there's always next time. I had a great time and can't wait to return.
Likemflat, Your info here will help me much when I work the Manila action for the first time come this May. I especially like your info regarding the finer babes in Manila. This is where my game plan always breaks down. I have been to Cebu a few times and there are some real fine ones working the Mango Bars but they just play me for drinks. I have taken one or two back to the hotel and they will just quit on me as soon as we get started. I have brought more than one back to the bar and there is no manager so no refund or credit. It is really fucked.
At the Cebu bars the Ks get the special treatment and all the filipinas trip all over themselves to be picked by the K guys. Here I am, looking good (albeit 61, but still in good shape) sipping my drink and giving them the "come over here look" but am ignored. Then if I do get action I am played for a sucker (which I do very well on occasion) buying drinks and getting led on. When I do realize I'm being played I express my displeasure and go for plan # 2, which is the nearest cute 6. I really want the hotties so your optimism (re; the 9's) is very good to hear. Be patient haha, I think throwing money at them might be another option. So work the hotties no matter how you feel, just go for it, haha, I like that game plan.
Your whole report is very honest and helpful for a monger like me. I am not into misleading DIA girls into my bed by deception and I would never reward a good fuck w / a measly 200p, WTF will 200p do for her? I assume that some DIA girls know it's about casual sex so DIA is a good option if no deception required. For me I'll stick w / the clubs and the malls.
Looking forward to finally walking into the LA Cafe after reading about it for years.
I like your style but wish you had taken a few pics.
Thanks Again.
Here are the 2 that quit on me after a huge effort on my part. Maybe I gave them too much camera? They just quit and they were extraordinary in their own ways, believe me. It still pisses me off 3 years later.
Both worked at the Mango St bars, the very little one was still there last Feb 2013 and she was spent. I would not be into her now, but in the pic she was a super hot spinner, very pretty. The other was very shapely, sex appeal was just dripping off her, and soon after these pics, real gone. Both ladies were w/ me in my Parklane hotel room for about 15 minutes. haha
I wonder if this shit happens to anyone else? Probably just me, haha, ayyyyyy....
FreebieFan
02-27-14, 01:53
It might feel good to say "fuck you" but it doesn't achieve anything. You don't get a ride and the driver doesn't go off and think, hey you know, that guy was right. All he thinks is "Fuck you too, fucking porreigner".
Watch the locals (because once in a while the drivers try it on them too) or the old-hand expats. They'll say a few words, usually with a bit of humor, and often the driver will just switch on the meter. If he doesn't, no problem, they just move on to the next cab without saying another word.
I can't think of anywhere in S. E. Asia where there's an advantage into getting upset over a driver who won't do what you want him to do in his own cab. Making a fuss over something like this is classic bull-in-a-China-shop Western newbie behavior. It doesn't impress anyone.LIKE. Every word you say is so true.
Bull Dozer
02-27-14, 02:23
I tried searching and rtfm but could not find my answer. I'm visiting MNL again and trying to decide where to stay. I really had good luck with EDSA last time and MBC was hit and miss. My question is how early do the bars open at EDSA?Could you please clarify what MBC stands for & where is it located.
Thanks,
BD
Could you please clarify what MBC stands for & where is it located.
Thanks,
BDMBC = Manila Bay Cafe. Now just called La Cafe. As to where it is located? Why don't you do some reading of the forum pages. Or make the search on your own. That is what is generally done. And you'll find out.
the mayor's new plan to limit 8 wheeled trucks from the city between 5am to 9pm is working. despite protests from truckers, trucking companies and the port, traffic time has been reduced dramatically. in some areas traffic is moving at the speed limits. if there is such limits. today at 11:00am i went by taxi from makati to angeles and did not encounter one traffic jam. almost like it was unbelievable. trip took less than 90 minutes and he had stopped for gas along the way. traffic on edsa was moving right along. come to think about it, i don't recall any cars honking either.
hope the mayor is strong enough to fight off the trucking interests to keep it on the 6 month trial period. some of the manila traffic nightmares might be gone. as least for a while.
I've lived here for over a year now and if it happened only once a week it would be about 60 times. Move on to the next cab? There's no taxi line out there. I only see those at the airport and malls. Maybe it has something to do with being a white guy?
Could you please clarify what MBC stands for & where is it located.
Thanks,
BDI do this as you are a senior member. Corner of Del Pilar and Salas in Ermita. Be careful of the neighborhood.
Soapy Smith
02-27-14, 10:24
Could you please clarify what MBC stands for & where is it located.
Thanks, BDOr consider doing a simple google search for either Manila Bay Cafe or LA Cafe, Manila. You will find address and related map and several interesting youtube videos.
At the Cebu bars the Ks get the special treatment and all the filipinas trip all over themselves to be picked by the K guys. Here I am, looking good (albeit 61, but still in good shape) sipping my drink and giving them the "come over here look" but am ignored.You can't really blame the girls, the Korean guys I saw tended to be young, good-looking and they seemed to be fun. The main thing that I learned is that while these are working girls to be sure, they're also human. So they like to have fun. If you approach one or a group, chat them up, and if you're polite and entertaining, you probably won't be rejected. I was never rejected if I approached a girl. But in the beginning I found I could wave, stare or otherwise try to make contact from a distance, and they would just ignore me or smile and move on. But again, they were all really kind and fun once I approached them.
The place is an experience to be sure. I forgot to mention. You might find some good girls during the day and afternoon, but really the scene is better at night. Also, the upstairs is charging a 200 peso entry fee, and for the most part it's not worth it unless you want to listen to the band.
I am not into misleading DIA girls into my bed by deception and I would never reward a good fuck w / a measly 200p, WTF will 200p do for her? I assume that some DIA girls know it's about casual sex so DIA is a good option if no deception required. For me I'll stick w / the clubs and the malls.I agree. Now there are some girls on DIA and FC who are just looking for fun. But personally I don't want to mislead a girl and lie to her to get her in bed, especially when there are so many other easier options. One girl from DIA did offer me a massage in my hotel room, but our schedules never matched up.
I like your style but wish you had taken a few pics.Yeah, sorry about that. I'm used to places like the German FKK clubs where cameras are strictly forbidden so I'm just not in the habit. Taking pictures would be fun, so I'll have to bring a camera next time.
the mayor's new plan to limit 8 wheeled trucks from the city between 5am to 9pm is working. despite protests from truckers, trucking companies and the port, traffic time has been reduced dramatically. in some areas traffic is moving at the speed limits. if there is such limits. today at 11:00am i went by taxi from makati to angeles and did not encounter one traffic jam. almost like it was unbelievable. trip took less than 90 minutes and he had stopped for gas along the way. traffic on edsa was moving right along. come to think about it, i don't recall any cars honking either.
hope the mayor is strong enough to fight off the trucking interests to keep it on the 6 month trial period. some of the manila traffic nightmares might be gone. as least for a while.just read in this morning's paper the mayor buckled and modified the truck ban. loaded trucks are exempted from the ban hours but unloaded trucks are not. traffic will be back to a mess. seems self-interest or i mean paid self-interest is still the rule of the land.
the mayor's new plan to limit 8 wheeled trucks from the city between 5am to 9pm is working. despite protests from truckers, trucking companies and the port, traffic time has been reduced dramatically. in some areas traffic is moving at the speed limits. if there is such limits. today at 11:00am i went by taxi from makati to angeles and did not encounter one traffic jam. almost like it was unbelievable. trip took less than 90 minutes and he had stopped for gas along the way. traffic on edsa was moving right along. come to think about it, i don't recall any cars honking either.
hope the mayor is strong enough to fight off the trucking interests to keep it on the 6 month trial period. some of the manila traffic nightmares might be gone. as least for a while.sounds great. my last trip three months ago it took 4+ hours to get to ac. freaking dreadful. it was so bad i have booked my flight next month into clark just to by-pass the traffic.
GoodEnough
02-28-14, 05:49
Sounds great. My last trip three months ago it took 4+ hours to get to AC. Freaking dreadful. It was so bad I have booked my flight next month into Clark just to by-pass the traffic.Except, that, caving into pressure from the oligarchs, the position has recently changed again, so the window during which trucks may not operate has been narrowed though not closed. It took my slightly more than 20 minutes this morning to travel the 8 km. Between Makati and Ortigas, which isn't bad, aside from the two narrowly-missed accidents; one with a crazed bus driver and another with a taxi driver who was either high or trying to commit suicide by car.
GE
Also, the upstairs is charging a 200 peso entry fee, and for the most part it's not worth it unless you want to listen to the band.Jeez, quite a rip off. Better to grab a girl and take her elsewhere, such as the Grill of Cowboy on Mabini. Last night I saw Aegis, one of the most famous bands here, at the Remedios Cowboy Grill. Excellent show. No cover charge. Booze is cheaper too.
Every Wednesday night in March the Mocha Girls (see youtube for videos) will be appearing at the Mabini Cowboy Grill. You and your girl will have a brilliant time.
Love your name mate. You have already struck a chord with CS.
You could head off to Metrowalk situated on Meralco Avenue. It is a good nightspot with live bands, and in the back left-hand corner up the escalator on the 2nd floor is I-SPA, a very well-run massage place (wellness center) LOL. It is not a fishbowl and you take who is next in line and I have never lucked out with a girl. If you request the I-SPA Signature tantric massage it costs 900 php (discount from 1000 php during the evening) and includes a HJ without any questions being asked. The girl will give you a good 45 minute massage on your back and then will flip you over and accommodate you. They will also offer a hot towel and a cup of hot tea or coffee too. They expect a tip but don't let them tell you they need extra for the HJ as it is part of the service but I always tip anyway as I am a repeat customer. No full service allowed on premises but I assume you could get a number for after she finishes if you find a willing one and you keep it VERY DISCREET (not discrete LOL) I tried the I-SPA massage. It was pretty much as described. The girl I got was called Yesha (not her real name). She was not that attractive. She gave an ok massage, but she pressed for 500 PHP extra for the hand job. She rejected all of my advances and wanted exorbitant sums for minor stuff (1000 for sucking my nipples? Give me a break). She would not meet up after work (neither would I, I was just doing research) , no BJ no matter what, etc etc. I expect I was unlucky with her. I don't know of other options around Ortigas, and it takes ridiculous amounts of time to travel to other places so I may give them another try anyway.
Likemflat, Your info here will help me much when I work the Manila action for the first time come this May. I especially like your info regarding the finer babes in Manila. This is where my game plan always breaks down. I have been to Cebu a few times and there are some real fine ones working the Mango Bars but they just play me for drinks. I have taken one or two back to the hotel and they will just quit on me as soon as we get started. I have brought more than one back to the bar and there is no manager so no refund or credit. It is really fucked.
At the Cebu bars the Ks get the special treatment and all the filipinas trip all over themselves to be picked by the K guys. Here I am, looking good (albeit 61, but still in good shape) sipping my drink and giving them the "come over here look" but am ignored. Then if I do get action I am played for a sucker (which I do very well on occasion) buying drinks and getting led on...Hey Socker,
So I take it that you didn't have a good time in Cebu? Would you personally recommend it? I've been to Manila, Angeles, Pattaya, Bangkok and many more places several several several times but never Cebu and I was thinking about it. I'm a fairly attractive dude in my early 30's that enjoys GFE. Thanks for your insight and report brother!
Well. It's been awhile since I've been to Manila. Maybe a year? I usually enjoy MBC but it can be rough at times. Although there's about 50-80 girls, I wouldn't touch most of them with a stick LOL. Although I've found my share of diamonds in a pool full of toads, I usually settle for average girls who I think will offer me great service. The last girl I got, was pretty awful LOL. So shoot that theory down the drain. She tried to hide the fact that she was on her period, wanted to leave early because of her husband and I felt the service didn't justify the cost. I think the girls will go from 1500-3500 here. They usually start off at 3500 but they're pretty much expecting you to counter their offer. If you don't, they'll smell a sucker and take advantage of you all night long! Oh and during the day, I've actually found some young ones who are college students looking to make a quick buck without telling noone. #JackPot.
Although Burgos Street is hella expensive, I sometimes don't mind the price tag. I believe every girl I ever took out from this area has been amazing both looks and service wise! My memory is foggy but I think it runs for like 3-5000 pesos? Going to need a cross check from a vet on the prices.
At EDSA, I tried one girl and I didn't really enjoy so I've never gone back. The one girl I took seemed Hard, Cold and Jaded. If anyone can share positive GFExperiences, maybe I'll give this place another shot.
Maybe I should go back to Manila for a bit? Any thoughts fellas? I'm heavily leaning towards going to AC straight but I've done that the last 3 or 4 times LOL.
Good luck man and enjoy,
YG
Hey all. My frst time to Manila and I wanted your expertise on which location to stay at. I have heard about the traffic the horrible taxi ride and all that. I just want a good hotel. I can not compromise on that but something close to all the action. I know its spread out in manila but can some of you pro's recommend a hotel thats close to the action. I prefer 4 to 5 star. Only there for one night so want to make the most of it instead of riding in an endless taxi ride. Thanks all
Hey all. My frst time to Manila and I wanted your expertise on which location to stay at. I have heard about the traffic the horrible taxi ride and all that. I just want a good hotel. I can not compromise on that but something close to all the action. I know its spread out in manila but can some of you pro's recommend a hotel thats close to the action. I prefer 4 to 5 star. Only there for one night so want to make the most of it instead of riding in an endless taxi ride. Thanks allWhy not RTFF in the Manila Hotel Thread? Well anyways, why don't you stay at the Hyatt Regency? It's a 5 star hotel in a pretty good location. Or what about the Shangri-La? Another 5 star hotel in a good location.
Good luck,
YG
WestCoast1
03-08-14, 14:10
Hey all. My frst time to Manila and I wanted your expertise on which location to stay at. I have heard about the traffic the horrible taxi ride and all that. I just want a good hotel. I can not compromise on that but something close to all the action. I know its spread out in manila but can some of you pro's recommend a hotel thats close to the action. I prefer 4 to 5 star. Only there for one night so want to make the most of it instead of riding in an endless taxi ride. Thanks allWhich action? Makati (Havana Cafe, P Burgos street) , or Malate (LAC / G-Point / EDSA)? They are not close to each other.
You are asking a lot of hotel questions for a newb on multiple threads. Knock it off, RTTF, and send PM's to the gents you have questions for. Once you spend time there, write us up some detailed Field Reports about your experiences: girls, hotels, restaurants, nightlife, taxis, etc.
Hey all. My frst time to Manila and I wanted your expertise on which location to stay at. I have heard about the traffic the horrible taxi ride and all that. I just want a good hotel. I can not compromise on that but something close to all the action. I know its spread out in manila but can some of you pro's recommend a hotel thats close to the action. I prefer 4 to 5 star. Only there for one night so want to make the most of it instead of riding in an endless taxi ride. Thanks allHi HK,
Since you only have 1 night. Your primary focus should be Havana. I would recommend staying at Raffles or New World, Shangri La is nice but a slightly father walk back from Havana. If you want to, go to P. Burgos around 9pm just so you can say you went, see a few clubs have a few expensive drinks and leave before you have to buy too many lady drinks. Get a taxi back to Havana by 1030 at the latest. Go inside to the bar, order a drink, have fun. I prefer to have girls meet me at my hotel room in 10 minutes (front desk will call your room) rather than walk them back but that is just my style since I travel with co-workers. ST 1500. 2000 (depending on looks and negotiation). LT no more than 3000.
L2S
Hey all. My frst time to Manila and I wanted your expertise on which location to stay at.Try agoda. Com and then read West Coast's post and the forum to see if you want to stay in Malate or Makati. If you only have one night and not on a budget I'd go with Makati.
I will be in Manila next Saturday for a layover. Does anyone know where I can go look (not online) for some company to take to hotel? Not those on the streets.
Wicked Roger
03-09-14, 12:32
I will be in Manila next Saturday for a layover. Does anyone know where I can go look (not online) for some company to take to hotel? Not those on the streets.Yes, I do so do many who regularly post on this thread. I would suggest you RTFF as there is a wealth of information to help with your concerns etc. Also I noticed you have asked similar questions on other threads in the past so generally there is a give and take on the board that I and others have written about and the taking comes from the initial giving.
How long is the layover and what is the time frame? In the past people have recommended Air Force One. They have a web page.
I will be in Manila next Saturday for a layover. Does anyone know where I can go look (not online) for some company to take to hotel? Not those on the streets.
PussyFeelsGood
03-10-14, 08:17
Hey Socker,
So I take it that you didn't have a good time in Cebu? Would you personally recommend it? I've been to Manila, Angeles, Pattaya, Bangkok and many more places several several several times but never Cebu and I was thinking about it. I'm a fairly attractive dude in my early 30's that enjoys GFE. Thanks for your insight and report brother!I just got back from cebu and hated it. Its just an awful city for a quick P4P trip imo, if you are going to spend some time there then you will get some great GFE that is for sure (just try to let them know you are only there for a short while and not looking for a wife imo)
But I agree completely with what he said, the koreans have totally spoiled the P4P market, you will likely go to j ave and the hottest girls in the place will assume you arent willing to pay and ignore you while they party with the koreans.
I think it could be a great place to live and play the long game in, you could build up quite a stable of friends with benefits being a young white guy (which I am also) and in a short trip you MIGHT be able to do the same, but I don't think you want to take a trip on a maybe.
That said there are some lookers at the mango girly bars so if you strike out elsewhere you can always go there, but I've been to the same cities as you listed and a few others and cebu was my least favorite, and by far my least favorite for P4P.
Day 2 in Manila.
Do my shopping at Robinson's, get some water, nuts, and a couple blue pills (for the heck of it). Get my Phils sim card (40 pesos and 500 load) and text 2 manila area girls with the new number. I don't dare text more than that, or else I will have waaaay to much, more than I can handle. These little pests constantly badger you once they have your number and I don't want to juggle more than I need to. They have a habit of showing up at the hotel unannounced once they know where you are as well. Girl A is in Las Pinas and wants me to go there. She also has a job interview today. No damn way. Why should I inconvenience myself?
Quickly move on to girl B. Girl B is in Quezon City and is willing to come to Ermita and meet me now. Okay good, if I hate her I will send her packing and still have time to meet up with someone else for dinner / evening fun. She does not want to take LRT or bus (my suggestion) and begs for taxi money. Seeing as how it is 1pm, traffic ain't so bad so I agree that I will pay the taxi with instructions to go straight to the hotel. I also instruct her to make sure the driver uses the meter, because if he knows a foreigner is picking up the bill on the other end, who knows how much it would be. In the ensuing 2 hours she called me 6x (didn't answer) and texted me with all the customary questions that were completely covered online many weeks ago (are you married, how old are you, etc). Geeez, don't you keep notes like us guys do?
3:30pm.
Shows up at the hotel in the taxi, I go around to the drivers window and pay. The meter says 245, gave him 300. I notice a man standing at the back door of the taxi, on the passenger side and he is not wearing hotel concierge uniform. I am wondering who that is talking to the girl in the back seat. She hops out, walks up and announces that her uncle is here! She brought her FUCKING UNCLE along! I am like WTF? Anyways, to keep things moving smoothly, I brush it off and start towards the hotel entrance. She is just the kind I like, cute, short and skinny. I also notice she has huge buckteeth and high upper gums when smiling, which did not come through on the Tagged pics. Yikes.
She asks if her uncle can come with us. Are you kidding me? What the hell is this? Like I really want to go to my hotel room and snuggle with her uncle and her. I say no and keep walking. If she is too scared or offended, well I will go to my room alone. I did not want to upset the applecart just yet but this was not going as planned. I don't look back as we walk through the hotel doors, but I can feel the uncle's eyes on me.
Once in the room, we start chatting. I ask about the uncle, doesn't he have a job today? He is a bouncer in a bar so he is not working in the afternoon and he wanted to come so she is safe. She had taken a day off from her caregiving job to see me. I am pissed and I ask why she didn't ask me or tell me her uncle is coming. She says she knew I would be upset (right!).
As we sit there, the uncle texts her to say he can go home but has no money for taxi. So I am expected to pony up for this dude to go home. Not cool. I put together 270 pesos and tell her to take it and go home with her uncle and we will talk another day.
Wow, it was as if I had just killed a puppy. She would not get up and put her shoes on. I finally had to say it 4 times, Ok, shoes, let's go, before she got up. Who cares little dumbass, learn from your mistakes and don't treat us foreigners like *******es and money trees. I escort her down as she is making me promise a 100 times that we will meet again. I have a smoke outside as she and the uncle engage in heated discussion out of earshot. I finish my smoke and head upstairs, fully expecting her to show up again with the uncle going home. If that happens that little girl will be on the street on her bony little ass. Fortunately for her, she texts me saying how sorry she was and she will never do it again. I hope not! Total damage 570ph and I got a girl in the bag for when I want. Always great to have those reserves, you never know when you will need them.
I text Girl A (who had gone quiet) saying it would be better if she came to Ermita. Her job interview is over and yes she will come and yes she will take jeepney and LRT. Will I pay for transpo? Of course I will! Things are looking better. I love it when it happens so easy. If she brings along an uncle or friend, she will get the same treatment! This one is not phoning me (I hate it when they phone) and just sends little nice texts with no big drama questions.
FreebieFan
03-11-14, 03:59
Day 2 in Manila.
Do my shopping at Robinson's, get some water, nuts, and a couple blue pills (for the heck of it). Get my Phils sim card (40 pesos and 500 load) and text 2 manila area girls with the new number. I don't dare text more than that, or else I will have waaaay to much, more than I can handle. These little pests constantly badger you once they have your number and I don't want to juggle more than I need to. They have a habit of showing up at the hotel unannounced once they know where you are as well. Girl A is in Las Pinas and wants me to go there. She also has a job interview today. No damn way. Why should I inconvenience myself?
Quickly move on to girl B. Girl B is in Quezon City and is willing to come to Ermita and meet me now. Okay good, if I hate her I will send her packing and still have time to meet up with someone else for dinner / evening fun. She does not want to take LRT or bus (my suggestion) and begs for taxi money. Seeing as how it is 1pm, traffic ain't so bad so I agree that I will pay the taxi with instructions to go straight to the hotel. I also instruct her to make sure the driver uses the meter, because if he knows a foreigner is picking up the bill on the other end, who knows how much it would be. In the ensuing 2 hours she called me 6x (didn't answer) and texted me with all the customary questions that were completely covered online many weeks ago (are you married, how old are you, etc). Geeez, don't you keep notes like us guys do?
3:30pm.
Shows up at the hotel in the taxi, I go around to the drivers window and pay. The meter says 245, gave him 300. I notice a man standing at the back door of the taxi, on the passenger side and he is not wearing hotel concierge uniform. I am wondering who that is talking to the girl in the back seat. She hops out, walks up and announces that her uncle is here! She brought her FUCKING UNCLE along! I am like WTF? Anyways, to keep things moving smoothly, I brush it off and start towards the hotel entrance. She is just the kind I like, cute, short and skinny. I also notice she has huge buckteeth and high upper gums when smiling, which did not come through on the Tagged pics. Yikes.
She asks if her uncle can come with us. Are you kidding me? What the hell is this? Like I really want to go to my hotel room and snuggle with her uncle and her. I say no and keep walking. If she is too scared or offended, well I will go to my room alone. I did not want to upset the applecart just yet but this was not going as planned. I don't look back as we walk through the hotel doors, but I can feel the uncle's eyes on me.
Once in the room, we start chatting. I ask about the uncle, doesn't he have a job today? He is a bouncer in a bar so he is not working in the afternoon and he wanted to come so she is safe. She had taken a day off from her caregiving job to see me. I am pissed and I ask why she didn't ask me or tell me her uncle is coming. She says she knew I would be upset (right!).
As we sit there, the uncle texts her to say he can go home but has no money for taxi. So I am expected to pony up for this dude to go home. Not cool. I put together 270 pesos and tell her to take it and go home with her uncle and we will talk another day.
Wow, it was as if I had just killed a puppy. She would not get up and put her shoes on. I finally had to say it 4 times, Ok, shoes, let's go, before she got up. Who cares little dumbass, learn from your mistakes and don't treat us foreigners like *es and money trees. I escort her down as she is making me promise a 100 times that we will meet again. I have a smoke outside as she and the uncle engage in heated discussion out of earshot. I finish my smoke and head upstairs, fully expecting her to show up again with the uncle going home. If that happens that little girl will be on the street on her bony little ass. Fortunately for her, she texts me saying how sorry she was and she will never do it again. I hope not! Total damage 570ph and I got a girl in the bag for when I want. Always great to have those reserves, you never know when you will need them.
I text Girl A (who had gone quiet) saying it would be better if she came to Ermita. Her job interview is over and yes she will come and yes she will take jeepney and LRT. Will I pay for transpo? Of course I will! Things are looking better. I love it when it happens so easy. If she brings along an uncle or friend, she will get the same treatment! This one is not phoning me (I hate it when they phone) and just sends little nice texts with no big drama questions.I think you could have easily handled this way better, way mor diplomatically and ultimately way more successfully. Getting upset in the Philipines serves no purpose and doesn't gain you anything.
The girls don't keep notes because there are 100's of guys all saying they will be visiting and some do some don't. They can't remember one from another, they have no need to.
She bought her uncle along, who may have been her uncle or not, as she's been stiffed before by a foreigner. Thats why.
What you could / should have done was be firm and direct and say Hi Uncle, I will be enjoying some time with the girl, so here's 200p, go buy a beer or smokes or jollibee and the girl will tell you when she's ready to leave.
That way, all would have been happy and you would have got laid.
P250 or sex and you chose the first option.
Playing the game in Philippines requires a flexible approach and being the hard ass will see you getting frustrated by these type of situations and they occur often.
Wicked Roger
03-11-14, 07:33
I just got back from cebu and hated it. Its just an awful city for a quick P4P trip imo, if you are going to spend some time there then you will get some great GFE that is for sure (just try to let them know you are only there for a short while and not looking for a wife imo)
Also) and in a short trip you MIGHT be able to do the same, but I don't think you want to take a trip on a maybe.
That said there are some lookers at the mango girly bars so if you strike out elsewhere you can always go there, but I've been to the same cities as you listed and a few others and cebu was my least favorite, and by far my least favorite for P4P.Agreed PFG as Cebu like many other places (and many pinays) takes patience. If you just want a quick bang for your buck stay AC as even the fugliest guy can get laid there LOL.
IMHO I love Cebu, never have any issues always fun and lots of college girls never bar girls etc. But I have more time and lots more patience as some members who know will attest.
So if if are there for 2 days and want an AC type experience, don't come (it is OK as leaves more for me and others LOL) but if you want GFE, nice girls and have patience etc then visit Cebu but don't expect an AC experience.
Some of the better looking bar girls work at mainly Korean run places. I know a few and they tend to focus on them as pay high, very fast and very small (same old story as told before) but like to see nice respectful westerners (like me) when they can.
How long is the layover and what is the time frame? In the past people have recommended Air Force One. They have a web page.6 hr layover. I found a few online agencies but not sure if they are reliable though. I don't want to go to Air Force One and take too much time hunting. Do you have to pay a fee if you take them to your hotel? I guess I'll keep looking.
Thanks guys!
Good info and advice FF. I think I would have been plenty pissed if an uncle had shown up as well. Nevertheless, I would have been a nice guy, maybe bought all of us a cheap lunch or coffee, and then tried to excuse myself. Uncle would probably have vetted me and then it's like taking candy from a baby. Maybe. LOL.
Free2, please mellow out a little. Not only are you going to give yourself a heart attack, you're screwing things up for the guys who come after you. No wait, that isn't true! Any guy coming after you will look like Prince Charming.
I once spent a good part of a day meeting the whole clan of a gal in Davao. I finally grew fed up and said I had to go pick up my laundry. Which was true. She insisted on helping me. Well, the laundry bag wasn't heavy, so I didn't need help. But she sure helped me take the edge off once we got back to my room. Those of you who still remember the original "plaid bell bottom" photo will have seen her cute little snatch. X.
I think you could have easily handled this way better, way mor diplomatically and ultimately way more successfully. Getting upset in the Philipines serves no purpose and doesn't gain you anything.
The girls don't keep notes because there are 100's of guys all saying they will be visiting and some do some don't. They can't remember one from another, they have no need to.
She bought her uncle along, who may have been her uncle or not, as she's been stiffed before by a foreigner. Thats why.
What you could / should have done was be firm and direct and say Hi Uncle, I will be enjoying some time with the girl, so here's 200p, go buy a beer or smokes or jollibee and the girl will tell you when she's ready to leave.
That way, all would have been happy and you would have got laid.
P250 or sex and you chose the first option.
Playing the game in Philippines requires a flexible approach and being the hard ass will see you getting frustrated by these type of situations and they occur often.
I think you could have easily handled this way better, way mor diplomatically and ultimately way more successfully. Getting upset in the Philipines serves no purpose and doesn't gain you anything.
The girls don't keep notes because there are 100's of guys all saying they will be visiting and some do some don't. They can't remember one from another, they have no need to.
She bought her uncle along, who may have been her uncle or not, as she's been stiffed before by a foreigner. Thats why.
What you could / should have done was be firm and direct and say Hi Uncle, I will be enjoying some time with the girl, so here's 200p, go buy a beer or smokes or jollibee and the girl will tell you when she's ready to leave.
That way, all would have been happy and you would have got laid.
P250 or sex and you chose the first option.
Playing the game in Philippines requires a flexible approach and being the hard ass will see you getting frustrated by these type of situations and they occur often.I think you missed the key words in his post " (are you married, how old are you, etc)." She was not looking for Mr. Right Now, she was looking for Mr. Right.
I think his story was funny. He wasted time and pesos. If you live in the PI and have time to deal with time and drama, then those sites work well, but if you are short term visitor, time is not on your side.
Robb
Soapy Smith
03-12-14, 07:50
6 hr layover. I found a few online agencies but not sure if they are reliable though. I don't want to go to Air Force One and take too much time hunting. Do you have to pay a fee if you take them to your hotel? I guess I'll keep looking. Thanks guys!Six hours is, comparatively speaking, a very short layover. Also, you hint at a hotel but don't tell us which one you will be using. You also don't say whether your layover is between domestic or international flights, or one of each. If you come in on an international flight, it may be upwards of 45 minutes before you clear immigration, luggage pickup, and customs. Another drive of 30 minutes or more via taxi in each direction from airport to hotel and return. You need to be back to the airport an hour or so before departure for a domestic flight or 90 minutes minimum for an outgoing international flight. It will take time to check in and check out of the hotel. At checkout at many hotels you will have to wait while they send somebody to check the room to make sure you didn't steal anything.
You could reduce travel time if you stay at the Manila Airport Inn, which is walking distance from NAIA Terminal 1 (International flights) and walk or taxi to NAIA 2 (Philippine Airlines). But even Manila Airport Inn is a taxi ride away from Terminal 3, where most other domestic flights originate. And if you already have reservations at a hotel, that shapes the p4p outlets you can realistically consider. Most field reports about agency outcalls suggest it may take upwards of an hour before the woman shows up. Any way you calculate, you are not going to have much time for recreation in your hotel room.
X was giving you good advice by suggesting you just go to Air Force One. It's a massage place with several levels of fishbowl (levels of perceived quality or experience of the women) and offers full service. It's a few minutes drive from the airport and most cabbies can find it. Prices vary according to the time of day, and whatever the house asks for an hour, you figure to give the same amount to the woman. Most field reports have described the fishbowls as having attractive choices. It will cost you more than some other takeout places, but your hotel cost will be zero.
Soapy Smith
03-12-14, 08:37
I think you missed the key words in his post " (are you married, how old are you, etc)." She was not looking for Mr. Right Now, she was looking for Mr. Right.
RobbYou may be right about her intentions, although if "uncle" was with her when she called, those questions might have been for his benefit-or even at his request.
I think underlying FF's reply is an important message about time orientation within Filipino culture. We laugh at Filipinas arriving on "Filipino time" (i.e., an hour or more late), but Filipino time is about much more than just arriving late for things. Anything with a component of social interaction in it takes more time in the Philippines. For a Filipina to "go out" involves an inordinate amount of time putting on and rejecting various clothing choices; time in front of the mirror dealing with hair, makeup, eyebrows and eyelashes; packing all the necessary cell phones and other junk into her purse; and so on. She may need to shower, even if she already showered earlier in the day. Or try going with a family on a shopping outing: just multiply the woman's preparation time by the number of people going shopping. Okay, I exaggerate, but not much.
I recall an occasion a few years ago when I was to be met by a woman at the airport after about 26 hours of travel from the states. She insisted she had never been to terminal one, so a friend who had been an OFW to Japan would travel with her. Oh great! Now I had been with the woman once before, so I knew what I was getting into with her, literally and figuratively. But when I found her in the crowd waiting behind the fence at the lower taxi level, she was accompanied by three people: the girlfriend, a bakla friend, and her mother. I still don't know why her mother was there; perhaps to give blessing to her daughter's impending fornication with me.
So we all piled into the cab and rode to my hotel. They all insisted on checking out the hotel room, including checking out the mattress and the TV. I was horny but jet-lagged and was not a happy camper. Turns out that, although it was now nearly midnight, they had left for the airport early and had not had supper. An hour or so later an even hornier Skip was on the tab for dinner for everybody at the Aristocrat. Back to the hotel via taxi. This time they don't insist on going to the room, but there is conversation between daughter and mother that adds up to asking Skip for taxi fare home. Probably another 200 pesos or so beyond what I already owed the taxi driver. But within 30 minutes Skip and the woman were in delightful, lustful exertion, and it continued for the next several nights. I never saw mother again, but the bakla friend came around one time wanting to "party" on Skip's money. That lasted for about two beers, and then Skip feigned tiredness in order to get back to the hotel and into another night's horizontal recreation.
Bottom line: Filipino culture just sometimes requires time-consuming interaction. To get back to the earlier metaphor, I think Westerners' time orientation points to expectations that everything should happen "right now." In Philippine culture nothing that involves human interaction happens right now. I suspect many Westerners who visit for limited time periods never quite figure that out.
I think underlying FF's reply is an important message about time orientation within Filipino culture. We laugh at Filipinas arriving on "Filipino time" (I. E, an hour or more late) , but Filipino time is about much more than just arriving late for things. Anything with a component of social interaction in it takes more time in the Philippines. For a Filipina to "go out" involves an inordinate amount of time putting on and rejecting various clothing choices; time in front of the mirror dealing with hair, makeup, eyebrows and eyelashes; packing all the necessary cell phones and other junk into her purse; and so on. She may need to shower, even if she already showered earlier in the day. Or try going with a family on a shopping outing: just multiply the woman's preparation time by the number of people going shopping. Okay, I exaggerate, but not much.
<SNIP With all due respect SK I think you have described the female species in general the world over. In particular, obviously you have never been married to an Australian woman.
Nothing special about filipinas in this scenario, except maybe the group shopping thing. All women do this. Everywhere. My experience anyway.
With all due respect SK I think you have described the female species in general the world over. In particular, obviously you have never been married to an Australian woman.
Nothing special about filipinas in this scenario, except maybe the group shopping thing. All women do this. Everywhere. My experience anyway.In my experience Filipinas have been better and closer to being on time than American women that I have dated. Given the jeepneys, trikes and traffic jams they must endure I am surprised they get there in a reasonable amount of time. I have had American dates standing in front the mirror for hours getting ready thinking they were doing me a favor!
You no longer have to fill out the Embarkation Card upon departure anymore unless you are OFW. The Phil government figured out they can save billions by eliminating it, yet alone on the storage of them. Still have to fill one out upon arrival. Also payment of P550 departure tax is still required.
Soapy Smith
03-12-14, 20:24
With all due respect SK I think you have described the female species in general the world over. In particular, obviously you have never been married to an Australian woman. Nothing special about filipinas in this scenario, except maybe the group shopping thing. All women do this. Everywhere. My experience anyway.The female "getting ready" illustration was probably misplaced, but the story about "meeting the friends" illustrates my basic argument. The distinction I was making between Western and Filipino time orientation is well explained in Edward Hall's model of monochronic versus polychronic cultures. In monochronic cultures "interpersonal relations are subordinated to present schedule." That is, the show must go on, regardless of dramas in the actors' personal lives. In Germany they say you can set your watch by train departures and arrivals at the Hauptbahnhof. Western European, Australian, and North American cultures are characteristically monochronistic.
In polychronic cultures "present schedule is subordinate to interpersonal relations." Since Hall served in the Philippines in WWII, we might assume that Philippine culture sharpened his thinking about polychronic time orientation. So Skip arrived at NAIA with a planned schedule that included round up mate, travel to hotel, climb in the sack, fuck, and go to sleep. But Skip found himself enmeshed in Philippine cultural expectations in which interpersonal relations among the five of us superseded Skip's "present schedule."
I really wanted to spare readers this abstract explanation. I have attached a more detailed explanation below for those who care about it. But I contend the difference in time orientation is worth considering for anybody who crash lands in the Philippines bearing a "right now" Western time orientation.
RK, hopefully you could see beyond the thicket of murky illustration, understood my basic argument and agreed with its premises. Seems to me it might have applied to your story from several months ago about the woman who arrived late for meeting you at Mall of Asia.
Pip Jaeger
03-13-14, 00:09
Bottom line: Filipino culture just sometimes requires time-consuming interaction. To get back to the earlier metaphor, I think Westerners' time orientation points to expectations that everything should happen "right now." In Philippine culture nothing that involves human interaction happens right now.Except when they have an "emergency" and want you to send "help"; they fully expect that to happen "right now!"
I really wanted to spare readers this abstract explanation. I have attached a more detailed explanation below for those who care about it. But I contend the difference in time orientation is worth considering for anybody who crash lands in the Philippines bearing a "right now" Western time orientation.Edward Hall's model might well have been a useful "academic" analysis in past times but one cannot categorise all pinays as part of any polychronic cultural group in this present society.
For some concrete examples: all of the pinays (and pinoys) that I have worked with at a professional level are extremely punctual, and they very quickly adopt a monochronic approach when it matters.
The call-center workers know that they get fired if they are late.
As PJ suggests, when it matters pinays have a very strong "right now" orientation (note I said "when it matters").
All of us have received the regular text "Hi. What are you doing right now?"
My reply of "scratching my balls" or "picking my nose" was not the sort of answer they expected or understood.
The female "getting ready" illustration was probably misplaced,Most of the wasted time is her drying her long hair after showering; I've found a lot of girls don't like to leave my place with wet hair since apparently others attach a just-got-fucked stigma to it. Her worries are even greater, and likely more well founded, if she's leaving for home where her parents, siblings or partner live. There's an easy remedy to this: buy a hairdryer.
And to Skip, that was an insightful read. Thanks for posting.
FreebieFan
03-13-14, 08:57
pinays as part of any polychronic cultural group in this present society.
Very quickly adopt a monochronic approach when it matters.I thought I had a reasonable vocabulary but you very well educated chaps have an entire language with which I'm totally unfamiliar.
FF, there were some interesting words in that post. Fortunately, I'd read a few things about Hall and didn't need to pull out a dictionary.
No offense to the scholars, but explanations of Hall's work often use the terms high-context, low context. Hall's writings have helped me make sense of "logic" in Asia. For those of you who haven't already done so, search "hall, high context" and you'll find plenty to read. I find it fascinating, but I'm sure some of the readers here are already wondering why we aren't talking about "poossy", or "manila". Sorry.
Rk, has a good point. I would say that globalization and the mass media affect this cultural phenomena, as well as other things. It's not black and white, it's many shades of grey / gray. The old cliche about the Philippines,"500 years of Cathalicism. 100 years of Hollywood" would of course apply here.
If anyone wants to continue cross cultural topic discussion, maybe we should move to the "general" thread.
I thought I had a reasonable vocabulary but you very well educated chaps have an entire language with which I'm totally unfamiliar.
i recall an occasion a few years ago when i was to be met by a woman at the airport after about 26 hours of travel from the states. she insisted she had never been to terminal one, so a friend who had been an ofw to japan would travel with her. oh great! now i had been with the woman once before, so i knew what i was getting into with her, literally and figuratively. but when i found her in the crowd waiting behind the fence at the lower taxi level, she was accompanied by three people: the girlfriend, a bakla friend, and her mother. i still don't know why her mother was there; perhaps to give blessing to her daughter's impending fornication with me.there is a long custome in philippine which is called as "chaperon" (a french word)
it was pretty common custom in europe during middle age that a woman do not go outside by herself. i heard that this custom started in philippines from the time of colonization by spain. in those days, to avoid getting raped by spanish conquerer, girls always accompanied with friends or family members when they go out. that tradition still exists in philippines.
if the girl is professional sw, then she will directly head to your room without any companion. however, if it is non-pro and it is your first meeting, you should consider that she have a chance to bring a friend, uncle, aunt, mom, or what-so-ever.
Soapy Smith
03-13-14, 18:37
Edward Hall's model might well have been a useful "academic" analysis in past times but one cannot categorise all pinays as part of any polychronic cultural group in this present society.You are putting words in my mouth. I don't recall posting anything about "all pinoys." In my first extended trip to the Philippines, eight years ago, I received a day long "cultural orientation," as my hosts wanted me and others in our group to understand a few principal cultural ideas such as not "losing face," "Filipino time," saying "maybe" when the real answer would be "no," Filipinos' attraction to light-skinned foreigners, taxi situations, principles of neighborly obligation (as, for example, implied in language such as bayanihan and pagtutulungan) and even toileting practices (like using a tabo in lieu of toilet paper and for flushing the toilet). I'm sure I've forgotten much of what we were told.
As you and others point out, various globalizing forces have injected Western values and practices into some settings in Philippine society. My first several days in the Philippines-and the cultural orientation-took place in Makati, but I was told at the time,"this is not the real Philippines. Most Filipinos think of Makati as a sort of Beverly Hills and will probably never visit here." That may have changed over the ensuing eight years.
In my recent visits I mostly just pass by Makati and Ortigas on the MRT, and end up spending a fair amount of time in slums, where people have only the base of a toilet, and flush it with water dipped with a tabo from a big plastic barrel. So I acknowledge I may be looking at a distorted slice of Philippine society. But, taking your observation at face value, should we assume that trying to give new Westerners some of the ideas in the cultural orientation I received is a waste of time?
Back during the discussion that followed your report about the woman arriving late at Mall of Asia, I recall GE observing that for Filipinos, "time is more fungible, more fluid" (or words to that effect). You did not disagree. Do you now disagree with GE's thoughts?
PussyFeelsGood
03-14-14, 00:52
Had a non pro (has a real job) dia girl who I've never met come meet me tonight at 1am for the first time, I sleep weird hours so my only free time is late night / early day and she works days so I explain this is the only time we can meet, on the way she tells me her friend is with her and I think its going to be a wasted night.
We banged while the friend slept on the couch.
Ichigo1978
03-14-14, 03:48
I miss the days where you could come to this forum and see reports of people's recent adventures. Now you come here and there is either a flame war, a psychology class, or both.
We banged while the friend slept on the couch.Amongst some that's what's known as a missed opportunity. ;)
Anyway good going on not letting the surprise spoil your night.
FreebieFan
03-14-14, 06:38
there is a long custome in philippine which is called as "chaperon" (a french word)
it was pretty common custom in europe during middle age that a woman do not go outside by herself. i heard that this custom started in philippines from the time of colonization by spain. in those days, to avoid getting raped by spanish conquerer, girls always accompanied with friends or family members when they go out. that tradition still exists in philippines.
if the girl is professional sw, then she will directly head to your room without any companion. however, if it is non-pro and it is your first meeting, you should consider that she have a chance to bring a friend, uncle, aunt, mom, or what-so-ever.um i'm sure skip appreciates the well intentioned words concerning the definition of a " chaperone" but hes been on in and around the philippines for many years now and is probably more highly familiar with both the subject and the situation.
Econo Tech
03-14-14, 06:49
If the girl is professional SW, then she will directly head to your room without any companion. However, if it is non-pro and it is your first meeting, you should consider that she have a chance to bring a friend, uncle, aunt, mom, or what-so-ever.Really?
Then why the aku din chorus from the additional support team when you give some gift to your date?
In my experience Filipinas have been better and closer to being on time than American women that I have dated. Given the jeepneys, trikes and traffic jams they must endure I am surprised they get there in a reasonable amount of time. I have had American dates standing in front the mirror for hours getting ready thinking they were doing me a favor!I agree with you.
Like on time. Like the girl who took 4 hour by taxi on a Saturday from Pasay to Makati.
You been pretty lucky or dating the right girls. Unlike poor me.
<snip
Back during the discussion that followed your report about the woman arriving late at Mall of Asia, I recall GE observing that for Filipinos,"time is more fungible, more fluid" (or words to that effect). You did not disagree. Do you now disagree with GE's thoughts?I always tell GE direct if I disagree with anything he says since we meet virtually every week because our offices are close.
SK. This is not a forum for academic debate. I certainly am not trying to score points off anyone, including you. I too, have been through a series of "cultural acclimatisation" seminars and I have read all of Tomas D Andres' and F. Landa Jocano's rather interesting books about cultural mores in the Philippines (simple, cheap books from National Book Store).
Readers of this board are looking for short, sharp, easily understood descriptions of things that they will encounter. I will remember not to interpolate any of your future posts lest I stimulate a series of long-winded ripostes.
Apologies for saying "all" when I should have said "most" or "many" in my earlier post.
FriendlyPlanet
03-14-14, 15:38
Guys,
Jumped into a cab in Makati on Monday night, heading for Manila Bay Cafe. The taxi driver suggested he take me to a private apartment- "fresh girls from the provinces", and since I was looking for a girl LT, and it was already 11:30 pm I agreed. After a 10 minute drive across Makati, we stopped in front of an anonymous apartment. Inside there were about 30. 40 girls, definitely all well seasoned pros. I found one I liked and took her back to the hotel- probably in her early 30s, had a couple of kids, but very good in the sack- no complaints.
The cab driver asked PHP 4, 000 LT, which was crazy, I bargained the uncle down to 3, 000, probably still too much- anyone know the right price?
Thanks,
Friendly
Wicked Roger
03-14-14, 17:11
I always tell GE direct if I disagree with anything he says since we meet virtually every week because our offices are close.
SK. This is not a forum for academic debate.Put very simply, pinays will be late so learn to live with it and all the crazy excuse that go with them being late. They can't tell you 'bad news' so try to sugar coat everything (someone maybe RK said because their diet are soap operas). Trying to understand why etc is something men IMHO are not good at even with western women.
So, however interesting all these books and thesis are / maybe the plain fact is they will be late so plan for it. And if by some remarkable chance they are on time or early make sure you have DNAed the bed after the last girl (or have her leave by a different exit LOL).
3000 isn't too bad all-in for Makati if there's no barfine etc (when compared to Burgos). Care to share / PM the location?
Guys,
Jumped into a cab in Makati on Monday night, heading for Manila Bay Cafe. The taxi driver suggested he take me to a private apartment- "fresh girls from the provinces", and since I was looking for a girl LT, and it was already 11:30 pm I agreed. After a 10 minute drive across Makati, we stopped in front of an anonymous apartment. Inside there were about 30. 40 girls, definitely all well seasoned pros. I found one I liked and took her back to the hotel- probably in her early 30s, had a couple of kids, but very good in the sack- no complaints.
The cab driver asked PHP 4, 000 LT, which was crazy, I bargained the uncle down to 3, 000, probably still too much- anyone know the right price?
Thanks,
Friendly
Cunning Stunt
03-15-14, 04:40
Readers of this board are looking for short, sharp, easily understood descriptions of things that they will encounter. I will remember not to interpolate any of your future posts lest I stimulate a series of long-winded ripostes.Matters not RK. Some, not many, members may be interested in academic debate relating to the Pinay psyche and will read through the posts. The rest will skim or ignore.
I will say that I have come across my first truly punctual Filipina. I have now met her half a dozen times and she has yet to be even a minute late. In fact, she is often early and sits patiently in a nearby Seven Eleven or Mini Stop waiting for me. I don't know how she does it but she does and she is the shining exception that proves the rule.
I will say that I have come across my first truly punctual Filipina. I have now met her half a dozen times and she has yet to be even a minute late. In fact, she is often early and sits patiently in a nearby Seven Eleven or Mini Stop waiting for me. I don't know how she does it but she does and she is the shining exception that proves the rule.That's good for you CS that you have "come across" her (insert snigger here) given that she is only a part-time "employee" of yours so she obviously relishes her career prospects.
I can only repeat that filipinas and pinoys that have been professional colleagues of mine are always very punctual. I understand from acquaintances who employ filipinos in Australia and NZ that they are indeed among the MOST reliable employees regarding punctuality and ability to work as directed.
The pinays that I have met all over the Philippines for various nefarious activities unrelated to work are totally unreliable about time and are the frequent topic of posts here (many exasperated versions of which I have posted). I don't think this behavior can be analysed or categorised by anthropologists, because there is a certain group who can be (are) very reliable.
Wicked Roger
03-15-14, 07:04
I can only repeat that filipinas and pinoys that have been professional colleagues of mine are always very punctual. I understand from acquaintances who employ filipinos in Australia and NZ that they are indeed among the MOST reliable employees regarding punctuality and ability to work as directed.
The pinays that I have met all over the Philippines for various nefarious activities unrelated to work are totally unreliable about time and are the frequent topic of posts here (many exasperated versions of which I have posted). I don't think this behavior can be analysed or categorised by anthropologists, because there is a certain group who can be (are) very reliable.I can second that RK having worked with, employed and been the boss of a few pinoys / pinays over the years. Some I speak to about this 'Filipino time' issue are equally annoyed at their fellow countrymen tardiness saying "they would never survive in my company if they were that late"
So is it the water in the country that makes them change here? Is it that we keep them (pinays only) in bed longer letting them enjoy foreign sausages (as the regular hot dog can be boring) another reason? Whatever it is in this country many have no concept of time but when they work in another country and their salary depends on it etc they are able to adapt.
CS congratulations, I have also have some that are punctual but that is only after a few years of 'training' and 'carrot and stick', but it is nice to see and experience at times (unless the earlier girl is still with you still eating the sausage.
Guys,
Jumped into a cab in Makati on Monday night, heading for Manila Bay Cafe. The taxi driver suggested he take me to a private apartment- "fresh girls from the provinces", and since I was looking for a girl LT, and it was already 11:30 pm I agreed. After a 10 minute drive across Makati, we stopped in front of an anonymous apartment.I had exactly the same experience on two occasions, same price, same impression of the girls. I was taken to single-story buildings a five minute drive (in the middle of the night with no traffic) into the low-build areas behind the EDSA complex. For me other options remain more attractive.
WestCoast1
03-15-14, 14:18
I can only repeat that filipinas and pinoys that have been professional colleagues of mine are always very punctual. I understand from acquaintances who employ filipinos in Australia and NZ that they are indeed among the MOST reliable employees regarding punctuality and ability to work as directed.
The pinays that I have met all over the Philippines for various nefarious activities unrelated to work are totally unreliable about time and are the frequent topic of posts here (many exasperated versions of which I have posted). I don't think this behavior can be analysed or categorised by anthropologists, because there is a certain group who can be (are) very reliable.Concur. When pinay want to be on time, they are on time (or even hours early). I would guess that 99% of Filipino that have purchased a cap and gown are on time for their college graduation. That "time-challenged" trait seems to me (correct me if I'm wrong) to be ingrained in many of the places the spaniards conquered (the latin-americas) where I've visited, not just pilipines. However, the idea that pinoy "can't be on time", or that "you can't overcome their culture" (have been told that on this board and especially in PM, on other boards, in emails and by numerous gents sitting in places like Kokomo's and MBC / LAC) , might be incorrect. Their culture is not to be late. Nor to be on time. Its a dichotomous issue. For some events they are late, and other events they will specifically be on time (or early). I'm not necessarily good at stating which events, but I'm good at stating one of those events: spending time with me. I have a method (not stated here, the method brings out harsh opinions) which has reduced tardiness in returnees to almost zero, and cut way down on tardiness from first-time girls.
Transporter
03-17-14, 09:35
Guys,
Jumped into a cab in Makati on Monday night, heading for Manila Bay Cafe. The taxi driver suggested he take me to a private apartment- "fresh girls from the provinces", and since I was looking for a girl LT, and it was already 11:30 pm I agreed. After a 10 minute drive across Makati, we stopped in front of an anonymous apartment. Inside there were about 30. 40 girls, definitely all well seasoned pros. I found one I liked and took her back to the hotel- probably in her early 30s, had a couple of kids, but very good in the sack- no complaints.
The cab driver asked PHP 4, 000 LT, which was crazy, I bargained the uncle down to 3, 000, probably still too much- anyone know the right price?
Thanks,
Friendly3000 is fine all in.
Actually it's pretty good.
If you got her at 2500 or 2000 still need to tip her at least 1000.
If you work the price down too much you might have to tip the boys working there too.
I think you could have easily handled this way better, way mor diplomatically and ultimately way more successfully. Getting upset in the Philipines serves no purpose and doesn't gain you anything.
The girls don't keep notes because there are 100's of guys all saying they will be visiting and some do some don't. They can't remember one from another, they have no need to.
She bought her uncle along, who may have been her uncle or not, as she's been stiffed before by a foreigner. Thats why...I respectfully disagree sir!
I know the game in the Phils and I was not disappointed.
Girl 2 who showed up turned into a real blessing.
For every girl who wants to bring a friend or uncle, there is 20 that are pro's who will not bring a friend or uncle (no thanks) , but what I am looking for and found was the 5 who are non-pro's who will come alone and be the real deal.
Pics later, she will be called Girl 2. (Having real issues trying to upload pics on the website. Real sticky to do so).
Girl 2. A real keeper. Recently unemployed at Robinson's, but got a job in Makati while I was there. This girl works for a living. Does not text me like a crazy bansi every 5 minutes, awesome sense of humor and loves getting fucked. First time I came in 5 minutes and she says I was too fast. Next time I took a blue pill and after 20 minutes she says I was to long! Haha. Take that you LBFM.
My advice is if it smells (bringing uncle whatever, drama, etc) dump them as fast as you can. There is 1000 more girls out there that you will find and who will give you what you want. It just takes patience and takes going through the list to eleiminate the dumbasses.
That's what I do and every time I eventually find it.
This time it was literally girl #2, sometimes it takes me longer than that.
Often times I will fuck them and realize that this is not the girl for this trip. Move on to the next one.
This Girl 2 met me again when I returned to Manila for 3 days at the end of the trip. We did not stray far from the hotel because it had a beautiful pool and of course free wifi. Give the girl free wifi and she is happy for days on end. You are happy because you got in-house pussy on demand.
I gave Girl 2 transport on the first visit and fed her.
The 2nd visit (upon my return from around the provinces) I fed her, bought her a t-shirt and gave her 2000p to buy a new cord for her iphone.
Seriously, we go to Robinsons and I tell her to buy whatever she wants.
She picks a 600p t-shirt! I love this girl.
Not very much outlay for happy, non-drama days in Manila.
As we know, everything else about Manila sucks.
DesiDownUnder
03-24-14, 21:20
I will be in The Philippines soon. Can anyone recommend me "must go" or "cannot miss" places in Manila?
I will be in The Philippines soon. Can anyone recommend me "must go" or "cannot miss" places in Manila?DesiDownUnder, I suggest you to RTFF.
If you don't know what RTFF means then go to your ISG menu bar and under "Abbreviations" you will see that RTFF means Read the Fucking Forum. There are a few guys like you who want a potted answer but too lazy to look at the information already posted. There are a lot of guys who have in their ISG postings gone to a lot of effort to report their "must go" and "cannot miss" opinions. It is for you to judge and shape up your own "must go" places. And when you do go to these and other places please do provide your feedback report in this forum so it may help guys like you.
I will be in The Philippines soon. Can anyone recommend me "must go" or "cannot miss" places in Manila?An ATM and a CR meet both of those, surely. Everything else is subject to your whims, fancies, biases, proclivities and appetites.
Read the board. Really.
FreebieFan
03-25-14, 05:17
I will be in The Philippines soon. Can anyone recommend me "must go" or "cannot miss" places in Manila?where's the Unlike, don't Like, Dislike, Will Never Like, Totally Really don't Like, For Gods Sake I don't Like This Post, button?
I will be in The Philippines soon. Can anyone recommend me "must go" or "cannot miss" places in Manila?The immigration booth at Terminal 1
FreebieFan
03-25-14, 10:28
I will be in The Philippines soon. Can anyone recommend me "must go" or "cannot miss" places in Manila?Jollibee! Red Ribbon. Max's Fried Chicken. Chowking. Mang Inasal. Pancake House. Mercury Drugs. National Book Store. BPI. Robinsons. Greenwich.
Definitely get a hotel room. I don't recommend putting up a tent somewhere. LOL
Wicked Roger
03-25-14, 12:43
Jollibee! Red Ribbon. Max's Fried Chicken. Chowking. Mang Inasal. Pancake House. Mercury Drugs. National Book Store. BPI. Robinsons. Greenwich.Also McDo, KFC, lechon stands in the main road, Somai stalls, money exchange unless you think the Aussie dollar is the currency of choice in the Philippines.
Agree with earlier comments and a quick review of Desi's FRs suggest he asks a lot but gives very little back. Give and take Desi, you give first before you take.
Give and take Desi, you give first before you take.I don't mind a bloke asking a question w / o first giving a decent FR, but his questions were those of someone who put in zero effort. To which I say... "Fuck that!"
Anyway, to Desi I say, "Bon appetite." Sorry no one here could even tell you of a decent curry house to visit. Actually they could, but no one could be bothered.
Fast Eddie 48
03-25-14, 22:03
Jollibee! Red Ribbon. Max's Fried Chicken. Chowking. Mang Inasal. Pancake House. Mercury Drugs. National Book Store. BPI. Robinsons. Greenwich.To Freebie Fan.
You should add the Toilet to the list Downunder will need it after eating at this place.
Fast Eddie 48
I have previously reported on my experiences in Angeles City. Here is finally a summary of my impressions from Manila, where I actually spent more time than in Angeles City, but burdened with non-mongering commitments. One of the challenges was that I was staying in the Ortigas area. Mongering options there were as far as I could work out non-existent. So I had to trek through heavy traffic to one of the other locations for any action. By 10 pm this was not so bad (though not so great either).
EDSA.
I first tried the EDSA complex of girlie bars. As far as I remember bar fine + payment to girl came to PHP 5000, not including tip. So it is not cheap, basically one easily ends up spending something like USD 100 on each girl. However, there are many girls to choose from, and there are many young, attractive, friendly girls. Once I took a girl from EDSA in a taxi back to my far away hotel. A few other times I just crossed the road (heavy traffic) to the SOGO short time hotel, where not fancy but perfectly ok rooms with clean linen could be had for PHP 600 for three hours.
An exotic thing about the SOGO hotel across the road from EDSA is that part of it is a drive-in hotel. Basically you can come in your car, order a room without getting out, drive into a garage complex on the ground floor where there are 20-30 individual garages, shutter your car in your own private little garage and take a private staircase to your private room on the second floor. I have never seen anything like this, must be convenient for locals who are well known and don't want to be recognized.
I have had five or so threesomes in my life, including a couple of genuine amateur ones with friends in my home country. I have always found them either uninspiring or even miserable experiences where it is impossible to establish a proper rapport with one's sexual partners. So I avoid them like the pest. But at EDSA two girls and a very sympathetic (I. E. With a good vibe with the girls and with me) mamasan managed to talk me into taking two girls for a threesome at a slight discount rate (I think it was a total of PHP 4000 for each girl). They were gorgeous petite things, depicted in the first fuzzy picture in my uploads in the photo thread. The picture really doesn't do them justice, the one that looks chubby was actually a beautiful, nubile, playful thing with just a slightly bubbly but. The other was a rock hard spinner. Both about 20-22 years old. Neither had given birth.
They gave me the only good threesome I have ever had. They hardly chattered among themselves, except for a few brief moments followed by excited giggles. With some guidance, they did everything I wanted them to, making it what (I think) a threesome should be. Endless threeway DFK with lots of trilateral facial licking and saliva exchange. I got them to blow me together. They started doing it not quite how I wanted, one sucking my balls while the other sucked my shaft, or one using the hand while they other sucked. But when I finally got the idea across to them they seemed to enjoy doing it, I. E. Sliding up and down each their own side of the shaft, French kissing three ways again at the top (with my dick as the third kisser) and competing to suck the head in. While doing one in mish, I got the other to lie body to body with me on my back and do the thrusting, essentially using me to fuck her friend. Towards the end of the session one of them spotted a little from the intensive sex (which I don't mind at all, as I am neither suicidal nor a murderer and always use a condom). So after reassuring her that it was absolutely ok, I said that she should nonetheless be punished. So we enjoyed a little bondage and rough sex with one of the girls and me ganging up on the other, tying her wrists lightly with a soft belt from a dressing gown, pushing her head into the bed, lightly grasping her throat, holding her ankles tight and some hard fucking. They loved it. I was glad to be of service :) Afterwards they lay around half on top of me catching their breath, stroking me lovingly.
Across the road from EDSA are two hotels, Heritage and Copacabana Apartment Hotel. Both would be very noisy places due to the heavy traffic. A couple more blocks away around a corner is Hotel Midas, perhaps with less traffic noise. I didn't stay in any of them. Heritage seemed a better hotel than Copacabana, and more expensive.
In the area around EDSA are several other mongering options, small rough places with mostly locals (friendly towards me) , a rip off strip club next to EDSA which also had some very unattractive Russians, and so on. Interesting to explore, but I am not sure any of them are worth it when you have EDSA at hand.
I also tried taking the public transport rail (MRT or LRT) from Ortigas to EDSA. It was perfectly ok, but that was in the afternoon. Another day I saw queues literally several blocks long during rush hour. There is also an MRT / LRT line in the direction of LA Café, so in theory you could also use it to commute along that axis as long as you don't get stuck in the the queues.
Café Havana.
I also visited Café Havana. This was at the beginning of my trip and I left quickly and empty-handed. Most of the seating is outdoors in a nice, secluded, leafy area (behind a mall?). It felt more like a nice regular bar scene and most people seemed to be sitting around at tables with friends (often male) , so it seemed difficult to approach girls. Perhaps it was too early in the evening. This was at the beginning of my trip, so I was jetlagged and perhaps also had not built up enough self-confidence for this sort of operation yet. Also I wanted much action quickly and therefore did not have time for long plays. Had I had the possibility I probably would have returned later on. Amazing what a week or two with willing prostitutes can do with your self-confidence.
Burgos.
I never went to Burgos Street, though I drove past once in the daytime. As far as I could make out from RTFF it is expensive there.
LA Cafe.
I also went several times to LA Café (previously Manila Bay Cafee or MBC for a period). It is two floors with 3-4 rooms with a grungy, rock'and'roll bar feel. I was not overly impressed. Most of the girls are not so young, not so attractive, have given birth. There are a few prettier, younger ones, but they also tend to be a bit standoffish. I tended to walk and walk in circles trying to find someone, but then my walking and stares would attract attention. I took out a couple of girls from there, one was a pleasant MILF with whom I could have had a nice relationship for some time, but it simply was not my game. I also wandered the surrounding streets, full of beggars and homeless families (some with small children) at night. A bit depressing, but grungy and interesting. I looked into a bunch of other places in the vicinity. None of them were really impressive. Amazonia or whatever it is called about a block away from LA Café was quite a big place, but I never saw any interesting women there, more like the 30-45 year old bracket. I spent a couple of hours wandering the Robinsons mall a few blocks away, tried hitting on a couple of girls there, but no success. I was dead tired at the time, which may not have helped. I picked up one girl who looked young who was being pimped by a toothless homeless person. At first I was really in doubt about whether to dare or not, feared all kinds of troubles including her age and hygiene and health. But it turned out she was fine, just a regular 21 year old girl who had somehow gotten into this strange situation, very pleasant to be around. Had I not been about to leave I would have met up with her again.
Returning from an unsuccessful wandering of smaller girlie bars a few blocks away to LA Café, I saw a pretty face by the door to a small, anonymous bar. I approached her. It seemed more like drinking hole than a girlie bar. But her face was so beguiling I ended up letting her pull me into the bar. There was a partial karaoke set up (for one person at a time to sing for the whole bar) , a good few customers, including some locals. Many drunk. She wanted me to buy a drink, then her friend, then her other friend too. They also wanted me to buy some food. Red warning lamps were flashing (about wasting my time and money) , I vaguely tried to leave a couple of times, but they managed to reign me in every time – luckily. I was trying to get the door girl to go with me. At first she was coy, not allowed to go with customers, had to stay at work until 2 am etc. But then, seemingly after some consultations with her friends, the conversation changed. They were all from a different city, rented cheap digs way out of town, so could all three of them come and stay with me when they finished work at 2 am? WTF? They seemed so innocent, would I be setting myself up for a frigid night with these three angels? That would probably be tree times as bad as a frigid night with one woman. And as mentioned I don't like multi-somes anyway. So I tried to bring some clarity into things. My door girl would have sex with me, her friend too, but not the third friend. What exactly the sex would be like was difficult to work out.
They were all 18, sexy, enthusiastic, inexperienced. In the end I wanted them so badly I promised them PHP 3000 each if they would meet up later (for those who had sex with me). This was to make sure they had an incentive to keep our appointment. Sorry about the overspending, but I wanted this badly and I also didn't have time to be stood up. They did not want to meet at the bar, so we agree to meet at a different place nearby. So I went off wandering, had a quickie with a woman from LA Café and then went to the meeting place and lo and behold there they were. We went back to my nearby hotel, which for the last couple of nights I had moved down to that area of town (Riviera Mansions – cheap, good location, clean enough, wifi sucks, queues for the under-dimensioned lifts). Although the hotel was girl friendly, I was not quite sure how the doorman would feel about t h are e e 18 year olds, so I gave him a little warning in advance and slipped him a nice tip. He was cool with it, and appreciated the tip.
I still did not know what the girls were really thinking in terms of sex. We got up to the room, we had bought some food and (non-alcoholic) drink on the way, but had had lots of beers in the bar and ended up having a little party. Great atmosphere. Lots of fun and laughter. Selfies (some of which I have uploaded in the photos thread). Then time to go to bed. The (seemingly) bad news: turned out they did not intend to have sex all at the same time. The good news: number three wanted to have sex after all. So we were going to have a serial foursome. Two and two would go to the bathroom and giggle, while I did their friend, then they changed places.
Each one of them was different. The tallest, toughest of them in the bar, turned out to be the shyest in bed. She had only had sex a few times with a boyfriend, and only a couple years ago. She was basically semi-virgin (not my thing, but it does have a beauty). She cried a little, perhaps partly because of the pain, but seemingly at least as much because she was afraid of 'failing' in front of her friends. I offered several times to stop, explained that I would still pay, but she wanted me to do it. I treated her as gently as I could. It was a sweet séance.
The next girl was 'number three', who turned out to be the more experienced (she had a boyfriend, which was why she didn't want to go with me at first). Nice, albeit simple, sex, with some passion. Good French kissing, clinging to me, nice thrusting and grinding, appreciated DATY.
Last I had my initial favorite, the door girl. Her belly was a bit more flabby than I appreciate, but her face was divine and she was nice in bed and really tuned in to me.
None of them gave me a blowjob (nor did I ask for one) and the sex was nothing sophisticated or wild, very non-PSE. It was one of those situations where I was thinking, hell, they should be paying me. But the aesthetics of servicing a queue of pretty, enthusiastic. 18-year olds with a great relationship among themselves was a real high. I treated them as nicely as I could, trying to gauge what they wanted. Afterwards they were so grateful. The door girl still writes to me, says she misses me, and her friends miss me too :) After I had done them all thoroughly, which took a good while, they wanted to leave after all. I was half disappointed – it would have been nice to sleep entangled with those three nymphs – but also half relieved, I probably wouldn't have slept much at all, and I really needed to sleep the remaining couple of hours until I had to get up.
Condoms
In both the EDSA threesome and the LA Café area serial foursome I made sure to switch condoms between the girls. I knew they might be reluctant to ask me to do so, as they might fear that their friends would feel that they were casting doubt on them. So I made sure myself that the condom was changed each time without any questions asked. I think that is the right thing to do.
FreebieFan
03-26-14, 01:47
To Freebie Fan.
You should add the Toilet to the list Downunder will need it after eating at this place.
Fast Eddie 48I think between us, we have hit on a new way to answer the plonkers who ask such questions. I'm laughing even if he isn't.
Hey guys,
Long time poster here that stopped for a while.
I'm thinking of getting back in the game, but now I'm in the Philippines and I'm looking for some good MP's. A friend of a friend suggested Kremlin Spa located in QC. Does anyone have any recent experience there? How was it? Any info about the place would be nice.
Thanks in advance and I'll write a report if I decide to go.
Hey fellas,
I am planning my trip to the Philippines and I want to know where is the best place to find a 3 holer?
I really want to get two girls that are 3 holers because I want to do a threesome with them.
Any recommendations? Phone numbers of some good girls etcc?
Thanks for the assistance in advance for those who respond.
Wicked Roger
03-29-14, 15:34
Hey fellas,
I am planning my trip to the Philippines and I want to know where is the best place to find a 3 holer?
I really want to get two girls that are 3 holers because I want to do a threesome with them.
Any recommendations? Phone numbers of some good girls etcc?
Thanks for the assistance in advance for those who respond.Come to the Philippines is the best advice and then easy to find. Once you do then do what the rest of us do and work hard to find them and if we do find a 3 holer we share only when someone is known and had given to the Philippines board before taking (RTFF for FRs with 'give and take')
I know some 3 holers BTW.
Hey fellas,
I am planning my trip to the Philippines and I want to know where is the best place to find a 3 holer?
I really want to get two girls that are 3 holers because I want to do a threesome with them.
Any recommendations? Phone numbers of some good girls etcc?
Thanks for the assistance in advance for those who respond.Try EDSA. Let mama know what you want and maybe she can make it happen?
Wicked Roger
03-30-14, 07:23
Try EDSA. Let mama know what you want and maybe she can make it happen?But YG always do the squeeze test first before taking them out of the bar as you don't want a surprise 3 holer in the room LOL.
Asian Geek
04-03-14, 22:14
I went to the La la land in Paranaque yesterday night. This guy has some of the best babes in Manila. I wanted to take on spinner out, but she was alreday boooked. The manager wanted 9 K for this babe. Is this normal?
AG
I went to the La la land in Paranaque yesterday night. This guy has some of the best babes in Manila. I wanted to take on spinner out, but she was alreday boooked. The manager wanted 9 K for this babe. Is this normal?
AGWay too much unless you one of those guys who prefers what I call 'vanity prostitution' ie the more I pay a sex worker the bigger my ego. Look at the quality other guys are pulling here and the money they are parting with & ask yourself is this particular sex worker worth 9K? Some guys are disgustingly stingy, some guys stroke their ego throwing fistfuls of blue notes at sex workers, most guys try to stick to market price. Up to you in the end.
AV
FreebieFan
04-04-14, 01:48
Hey guys,
Long time poster here that stopped for a while.
I'm thinking of getting back in the game, but now I'm in the Philippines and I'm looking for some good MP's. A friend of a friend suggested Kremlin Spa located in QC. Does anyone have any recent experience there? How was it? Any info about the place would be nice.
Thanks in advance and I'll write a report if I decide to go.There are other forums specifically with reports about Manila spas. Try and have a look for these Manila forums, Tonight.
Cmon man. This is 3X normal. This is the Philippines not Singapore or Japan.
I went to the La la land in Paranaque yesterday night. This guy has some of the best babes in Manila. I wanted to take on spinner out, but she was alreday boooked. The manager wanted 9 K for this babe. Is this normal?
AG
Love Seeker
04-04-14, 14:34
They were gorgeous petite things, depicted in the first fuzzy picture in my uploads in the photo thread. The picture really doesn't do them justice, the one that looks chubby was actually a beautiful, nubile, playful thing with just a slightly bubbly but. The other was a rock hard spinner. Both about 20-22 years old. Neither had given birth.
I looked for the girls in your report on the photo section and did not find them?
Cmon man. This is 3X normal.D-Cups, my friend, hehe, found good C-cups here, but a civilian, cannot share with you, sorry, But anyway. 3x maybe for AC standards, but not for Manila anymore. In Burgos it's easily 6-7k pesos for an overnighter, so 9k, it's just a 25% premium or so.
Greetings from Burgos!
They were gorgeous petite things, depicted in the first fuzzy picture in my uploads in the photo thread. The picture really doesn't do them justice, the one that looks chubby was actually a beautiful, nubile, playful thing with just a slightly bubbly but. The other was a rock hard spinner. Both about 20-22 years old. Neither had given birth.
I looked for the girls in your report on the photo section and did not find them?With all the activity on this thread things quickly get buried. The post with the pictures is here:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2446-Photo-Gallery&p=1543738&viewfull=1#post1543738
If you are particularly interested in the fuzzy picture, it is the first of the three in that post. The next two picture posts are related to the same report (as well as my report on AC).
Cuke
I went to the La la land in Paranaque yesterday night. This guy has some of the best babes in Manila. I wanted to take on spinner out, but she was alreday boooked. The manager wanted 9 K for this babe. Is this normal?
AGThat's funny you mention this because I just took a few clients there two weeks ago. I actually liked it, it was fun and the girls were pretty good looking. I enjoyed the little fashion show and dancing.
Anyways never ever pay 9,000 P for a girl. You would have to be so desperate and she would have to be a movie star! Get the phone number have her come over on her day off and pay 2,000 if you must. Those girls make 200. 300 per day, then they get a cut of every drink, they make nothing close to 9,000. The manager tried to rob you blind, don't let it happen. You can pay full price and edsa or burgos and it is only 5,000 to 7,000 depending.
Hey fellas,
I am planning my trip to the Philippines and I want to know where is the best place to find a 3 holer?
I really want to get two girls that are 3 holers because I want to do a threesome with them.
Any recommendations? Phone numbers of some good girls etcc?
Thanks for the assistance in advance for those who respond.Simple, go to the bar and start asking until a girl says "yes". Then take her home. There is no special secrets here, everybody with money gets laid. You just need to go to one of the girls bars and ask a girl and if she says no ask another one. BarGirls want money, you have money. There is 50 girls in a place some times- you got 50 chances.
Hey guys,
Long time poster here that stopped for a while.
I'm thinking of getting back in the game, but now I'm in the Philippines and I'm looking for some good MP's. A friend of a friend suggested Kremlin Spa located in QC. Does anyone have any recent experience there? How was it? Any info about the place would be nice.
Thanks in advance and I'll write a report if I decide to go.Strange post. You are a long time poster that has 15 posts? You should know the game if you are a long time poster.
Then others who give you advice you "may" of "may not" privilege them and the rest of us with a report?
I don't know what to think about this.
Strange post. You are a long time poster that has 15 posts? You should know the game if you are a long time poster.
Then others who give you advice you "may" of "may not" privilege them and the rest of us with a report?
I don't know what to think about this.I merely meant that, I've been a long time lurker and have posted a report or two about the places I have gone, and that I've been on and off when it comes to this kind of activity.
I didn't mean to say that I "might" give a report; I said if I went I would write one, but I can't very well write a report without knowing what to write about if I haven't gone yet?
Why so hostile man?
3x maybe for AC standards, but not for Manila anymore. In Burgos it's easily 6-7k pesos for an overnighter, so 9k, it's just a 25% premium or so.
Greetings from Burgos!If so then I'll sadly cross Burgos off my list. Those prices are way out of kilter with the local economy there. I've dropped serious coin there in the past having wonderful experiences to remember but no way I'm buying at those 'starting prices'. I'm guessing 6-7k translates to 6+6 or to be more specific : 6k EWR + 6k to the girl in the morning? Seriously?
AV
I'm guessing 6-7k translates to 6+6 or to be more specific : 6k EWR + 6k to the girl in the morning? Seriously?Nope, I mean 2-3k to the bar and then around 4k to the girl.
Cheers!
Wicked Roger
04-06-14, 03:29
Nope, I mean 2-3k to the bar and then around 4k to the girl.
Cheers!For example, at Plan B the other week a friend wanted this very cute one and the barfine was around 3500 pesos but she wanted an additional 5000 pesos! Now she was cute but I told him (as I tell others) get the mobile number and see them during the day as then it is not 8500 by any stretch of the imagination.
And the bars wonder why there are no punters nowadays!
FruitNinja
04-06-14, 04:33
For example, at Plan B the other week a friend wanted this very cute one and the barfine was around 3500 pesos but she wanted an additional 5000 pesos! Now she was cute but I told him (as I tell others) get the mobile number and see them during the day as then it is not 8500 by any stretch of the imagination.
And the bars wonder why there are no punters nowadays!Spot on WR,
I went into Moulin Rouge and they were quoting the same crazy pricing. It was early and most of the girls were C quality but still quoting crazy prices. They were willing to do BJ in the back but I had no interest so didn't ask price. No intent on plugging any bars but I had quite a bit of fun at Stardust just off Burgos on Kalayaan. BF was 1500 and LT can be had for 3000. I didn't negotiate. The place is western owned and run. Has a pretty decent show on the our. Plenty of nice looking girls. I took two girls, both for multiple days. Venus and Blue. Both GFE. Had a good time.
For example, at Plan B the other week a friend wanted this very cute one and the barfine was around 3500 pesos but she wanted an additional 5000 pesos! Now she was cute but I told him (as I tell others) get the mobile number and see them during the day as then it is not 8500 by any stretch of the imagination.
And the bars wonder why there are no punters nowadays!Thats crazy, they were just 2,600 a month ago. Plan B was the lowest on burgos for a while. I am at Moulin and Wild West a lot because I am friends with the owners and have know the gay GM, and the older mama for years. Plus I dated the young mama (new one with blond hair) for a while. They typically stay at 3,500-3,800. Stardust is a great place, the dancers (showgirls) are cute and flexible. Its a fun place but I never paid a 1,500 barfine, that's great.
Typically now I never pay barfines, just get the girls number and call them over. You can get a st for 2,000 really easy. But if you need it now you have no choice.
FreebieFan
04-08-14, 03:37
If so then I'll sadly cross Burgos off my list. Those prices are way out of kilter with the local economy there. I've dropped serious coin there in the past having wonderful experiences to remember but no way I'm buying at those 'starting prices'. I'm guessing 6-7k translates to 6+6 or to be more specific : 6k EWR + 6k to the girl in the morning? Seriously?
AVI try to have a girl in the morning from a dating site and maybe arrange to meet one up for later in the evening. This means I can visit Burgos without any need to buy / rent and not pay these mad prices. Knowing that you have a solid score waiting means theres no pressure and you can enjoy, laugh smile and then politely decline when " barfine me" gets whispered in your ear. The best way to enjoy P Burgos is to go there to drink and watch and play but not to buy. Rogues, Stardust and Wowowow and High Heels are all good fun bars.
i try to have a girl in the morning from a dating site and maybe arrange to meet one up for later in the evening. this means i can visit burgos without any need to buy / rent and not pay these mad prices. knowing that you have a solid score waiting means theres no pressure and you can enjoy, laugh smile and then politely decline when " barfine me" gets whispered in your ear. the best way to enjoy p burgos is to go there to drink and watch and play but not to buy. rogues, stardust and wowowow and high heels are all good fun bars.i know what you mean ff, college girls from dating sites are very good value as long as you don't let them become gf's. pretty hard sometimes. discretely handing out cell #'s in the burgos bars is worth doing also. i practically get raped when ever i go into friday's so i have to avoid it until i'm in the mood to bust out with a major p4p pse extravaganza.
av
college girls from dating sites are very good value as long as you don't let them become GF's. Pretty hard sometimes.Don't I know it! Had a call centre girl over to my condo this morning after her work for our third hook up. After I deflowered her ass she asked me for my surname. Kinda pushy, doncha think?
Member #4387
04-08-14, 11:04
Don't I know it! Had a call centre girl over to my condo this morning after her work for our third hook up. After I deflowered her ass she asked me for my surname. Kinda pushy, doncha think?That is also one nice place to spend the morning (in her ass). Call centre girls are of great value not only for a nice morningwakeupsession. They are also good value at early eve as they have to leave late eve to go to work. All in good time for picking up a freelancer or having an overnighter.
I would slow it down a tad on this one Huts, soon she will ask you what you do in Phils)
I would slow it down a tad on this one Huts, soon she will ask you what you do in Phils)LOL. She has to get my middle names first. There's another girl I meet once a month or so for 8 months now and she refuses to tell me her real name. She told me to call her "In-In"; I've nicknamed her "Deep-Deep". I did have to separate from a lovely UP grad last week because she wanted to elevate the relationship from fubu to exclusivity after we've known each other only once a week for merely two months. A few days later she texted me and asked whether I wanted to start meeting her friend. I declined; figured it had to be a wily subterfuge of some sort. Dem da breaks.
And yes, call centre girls are an outstanding way to occupy non-primetime hours.
FreebieFan
04-09-14, 01:54
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/467127/man-accidentally-shoots-own-penis-dies
Econo Tech
04-09-14, 05:56
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And the bars wonder why there are no punters nowadays!Maybe not so.
Was there on a Friday. In plan be was quoted 2,500 barfine plus 6,000 for the girl. I declined.
But every 30 minutes or so the girls were clapping when one of their friend got barfined.
And most punters there were buying loads of ld. I never bothered to ask if the accounts were on company expenses. LOL.
Maybe not so.
Was there on a Friday. In plan be was quoted 2, 500 barfine plus 6, 000 for the girl. I declined.
But every 30 minutes or so the girls were clapping when one of their friend got barfined.
And most punters there were buying loads of ld. I never bothered to ask if the accounts were on company expenses. LOL.That's crazy news, I never heard of such a crazy barfine except if the girl does not want to go with you, the girls I am friends with at the bars (spend to much time there I guess.) They tell me if they don't like the guy they will give a huge price so the guy won't take them home. Also some girls are just problematic.
Asian Geek
04-14-14, 06:10
Yep. I thought the same way as you mentioned and passed the "offer" from manager. Went back to my hotel and ordered one in room.
That's funny you mention this because I just took a few clients there two weeks ago. I actually liked it, it was fun and the girls were pretty good looking. I enjoyed the little fashion show and dancing.
Anyways never ever pay 9, 000 P for a girl. You would have to be so desperate and she would have to be a movie star! Get the phone number have her come over on her day off and pay 2, 000 if you must. Those girls make 200. 300 per day, then they get a cut of every drink, they make nothing close to 9, 000. The manager tried to rob you blind, don't let it happen. You can pay full price and edsa or burgos and it is only 5, 000 to 7, 000 depending.
StudBucket
04-14-14, 07:10
I was in Makati earlier this year, and was able to get a nice looking girl out of Bronx Bar for a discounted bar fine of 2k (I had chatted up the mamasan and she gave me a discount). I did end up buying a couple of lady drinks and a bber for about an additional 800 pesos spent, and the girl cost 2k for all night. So, just for the girl the total damage was 4k. At this price, you are better off trying your luck at Havana Cafe or Palladium as I have had hot chicks there for 2 to 3 k for all night service.
How's the prices in KTVs these days. And the quality. Still Airforce 1 has good quality? Are there anything else worth mentioning?
Planing to head there next month. Thanks guys
Pinaypounder
04-15-14, 01:51
Hi all where can I eat on good Friday?
Hi all where can I eat on good Friday?The hotels are all open
LukeSkywalker
04-15-14, 07:13
I have to check out Havana Cafe and the Palladium next time.
LA cafe has a lot of girls, mostly older, lumpy and ugly. I took a girl all night for 1500 Php, added a tip. She was young and fresh, GFE, bareback BJ and sex all night. She was good.
The fishbowls in Ermita wanted 2000 Php, those in Makati wanted 4000 Php, negotiated down to 3000. The girl was nice, young, fresh and beautiful like a doll.
Manila is my favorite city for sex.
I was in Makati earlier this year, and was able to get a nice looking girl out of Bronx Bar for a discounted bar fine of 2k (I had chatted up the mamasan and she gave me a discount). I did end up buying a couple of lady drinks and a bber for about an additional 800 pesos spent, and the girl cost 2k for all night. So, just for the girl the total damage was 4k. At this price, you are better off trying your luck at Havana Cafe or Palladium as I have had hot chicks there for 2 to 3 k for all night service.
The fishbowls in Ermita wanted 2000 Php, those in Makati wanted 4000 Php, negotiated down to 3000. The girl was nice, young, fresh and beautiful like a doll.
Manila is my favorite city for sex.Where are these fishbowls located?
LukeSkywalker
04-15-14, 22:25
On Good Friday, go below the girls' navels. You will find plenty of places to eat.
But sometimes you run into rotten fish. Hehe.
Hi all where can I eat on good Friday?
How's the prices in KTVs these days. And the quality. Still Airforce 1 has good quality? Are there anything else worth mentioning?
Planing to head there next month. Thanks guysOf course Airforce and Lala land and those places are really nice and typically fun.
But, I have been slumming it in Malate and actually had some great fun.
I fucked a girl in Orange 5 in the VIP. Mama wanted 1000 for VIP I paid 500. The girl was hot and drunk.
In 15 mins she was letting me finger her and getting her hot. Pulled on top of me and fucked her there.
They have a shit load of girls and some really hot. It can be a lot of fun slumming in that area. Just be carefull of the cockroaches.
Fast Eddie 48
04-17-14, 22:56
Where are these fishbowls located?To Amjeck.
Did you know Luke is from Fantasy island he dream about stuff and make up story, he is just a newbie Lurker as we all know Fish bowl Sauna in Makati and Malate have been closed down more than 5 year in Manila.
Fast Eddie 48
LukeSkywalker
04-18-14, 22:27
Fart Eddie is an old, illiterate jerk, jealous of other posters, attacking with no reasons. Fart Eddie is so old he doesn't know his mouth from his ass, spewing crap from both!
Fart Eddie knows shit! FISHBOWLS are not closed. Even if Fart found the fishbowls, he would not know what to do. He's so old his dick shriveled and fell off years ago. He's just bullshitting trying to impress the newbies. This old guy is one of the rudest old Chinese guy with the worst manners on earth. His parents must have been Chinese trash, they did not care to educate him.
I gave the fishbowls instruction to a few bros, asking them not to abuse it. Not everyone wants to deal with illiterate jerks like FART EDDIE.
To Amjeck.
Did you know Luke is from Fantasy island he dream about stuff and make up story, he is just a newbie Lurker as we all know Fish bowl Sauna in Makati and Malate have been closed down more than 5 year in Manila.
Fast Eddie 48
Member #4410
04-19-14, 00:57
Fart Eddie is an old, illiterate jerk, jealous of other posters, attacking with no reasons. Fart Eddie is so old he doesn't know his mouth from his ass, spewing crap from both!
<SNIP Better not to demean yourself by spewing abuse. Eddie is, I hope, by now a notorious troll on many threads in ISG. Best to expose his nonsense rather than spewing angry language. I intend to analyse his last few hundred postings for location. Might be interesting.
Regards,
Ko
Fast Eddie 48
04-19-14, 01:17
Better not to demean yourself by spewing abuse. Eddie is, I hope, by now a notorious troll on many threads in ISG. Best to expose his nonsense rather than spewing angry language. I intend to analyse his last few hundred postings for location. Might be interesting.
Regards,
KoTo Old Fogy.
You are going to study what my last 100 post do you have a life, oh I forgot you are like Luke the Lurker both Old Fogy without a life just too much time in your hand someone will scope you up and buried it very soon.
Fast Eddie 48
Is it about Manila here or am I mistakenly in the Kindergarten-Thread?
Guys, if you don't like Eddies 2-liners, just simply ignore it and move on.
Better not to demean yourself by spewing abuse. Eddie is, I hope, by now a notorious troll on many threads in ISG. Best to expose his nonsense rather than spewing angry language. I intend to analyse his last few hundred postings for location. Might be interesting.
Regards,
KoLukeSkyWalker is one of those wannabe BSDs that unfortunately inhabit anonymous forums. His posts (often condescending) are full of fiction, contradictions and distinctly non-amusing crap (he apparently thinks he is being humorous). If he is criticised or corrected, he descends into a well of vitriolic spew full of hatred and abuse. Indeed a sad person.
He tried to attack Fast Eddie on the China boards, but he got more than he bargained for and has not returned. But no doubt he will return one day to post more rubbish. It is the nature of the beast. Maybe best to ignore!
Cheers
P.S. You will not find fiction or fantasies in Fast Eddie's posts. He posts (at least in China) relevant on-the-ground up to date reports that are appreciated by the members, and has been doing so for at least 10 years.
Member #4410
04-19-14, 13:35
LukeSkyWalker is one of those wannabe BSDs that unfortunately inhabit anonymous forums. His posts (often condescending) are full of fiction, contradictions and distinctly non-amusing crap (he apparently thinks he is being humorous). If he is criticised or corrected, he descends into a well of vitriolic spew full of hatred and abuse. Indeed a sad person.
He tried to attack Fast Eddie on the China boards, but he got more than he bargained for and has not returned. But no doubt he will return one day to post more rubbish. It is the nature of the beast. Maybe best to ignore!
Cheers.
P. S. You will not find fiction or fantasies in Fast Eddie's posts. He posts (at least in China) relevant on-the-ground up to date reports that are appreciated by the members, and has been doing so for at least 10 years.In the Indonesia forum Eddies contribution is limited to non-information and repeats of factoids that were posted earler by other members. Over the past years he has produced exactly zero field reports and zero pictures. When called upon to produce some original material he resorts to abuse in posts and pm's.
Regards,
Ko
In the Indonesia forum Eddies contribution is limited to non-information and repeats of factoids that were posted earler by other members. Over the past years he has produced exactly zero field reports and zero pictures. When called upon to produce some original material he resorts to abuse in posts and pm's.
Regards,
KoFair enough, I can only speak with regard to his China posts!
Cheers
Fast Eddie 48
04-20-14, 01:08
Fair enough, I can only speak with regard to his China posts!
CheersTo Ikksman.
What can I say Ko is just a old F he is Jealous that I have many post and get to travel all over the world and I go to Jarkata twice a yr for business and was there 2 month ago and have a great time, I don't like to post any of my girl photo is private.
Fast Eddie 48
LukeSkywalker
04-20-14, 16:31
Fart Eddie posts a lot of repeat info from other bros, bragging to be in many places, knowing a lot of people, having a lot of contacts.
When the bros ask him for specifics, Fart would be evasive, talking around and around, never giving straight answers.
Fart is one of those dumb, low-class, illiterate guys who lie, cheat, steal, abuse. He has no shame!
These little spats between members that occasionally rear their ugly head are both juvenile and pathetic and do not contribute whatsoever to the spirit of this forum. People who resort to personal insults usually do so because they lack the intellectual ability to formulate a rational argument and have anger management issues.
Take your little dispute elsewhere.
FreebieFan
04-21-14, 01:47
Take your little dispute elsewhere.Hear, fucking hear.
There are many of us here that I would call seasoned veterans. We all know who we are as we have all been here for many many years.
Then there's the proud young newbies who get laid once in Manila and think they know it all.
And then there's the trolls and those whose contributions on the Philippines boards lack depth clarity and perspective.
This has for many years been a good and active board with the occasional shit fight (think Daddy Warbucks, think Bender etc).
Right now the language is that of the playground. And many of us left the playground both figuratively and literally a long long time ago.
Give it a rest children, the adults are trying to sleep after last nights shagging.
Fast Eddie 48
04-21-14, 22:51
Fart Eddie posts a lot of repeat info from other bros, bragging to be in many places, knowing a lot of people, having a lot of contacts.
When the bros ask him for specifics, Fart would be evasive, talking around and around, never giving straight answers.
Fart is one of those dumb, low-class, illiterate guys who lie, cheat, steal, abuse. He has no shame!To Luke the Luker
So the truth is out this donkey PM many ask me question about SZ China and I reply for him to RTFF so he is mad at me for that, he is ask about name of Fishbowl sauna but he cannot answer and said he don't share with just anyone, the truth is he don't know of any because he never been to Manila.
Fast Eddie 48
I thought all the fish bowls were closed in Manila. Are they?
[ S N I P ] FISHBOWLS are not closed. [ S N I P ] I gave the fishbowls instruction to a few bros, asking them not to abuse it. [S N I P ]LSW, As you are unwilling to post the location of the Fishbowl Saunas, I have the following suggestion.
PM the addresses of the fishbowl saunas to one or more of the senior posters here who will verify the existence, or otherwise, of these facilities. If those members are not in MM, they can delegate the tasks to other senior posters who are.
And post here the names of the members to whom you have PM'd the addresses.
Surely you do not have a problem with this!
LukeSkywalker
04-22-14, 18:21
I have my choice not dealing with RUDE, STUPID, ILLITERATE JERKS.
LSW, As you are unwilling to post the location of the Fishbowl Saunas, I have the following suggestion.
PM the addresses of the fishbowl saunas to one or more of the senior posters here who will verify the existence, or otherwise, of these facilities. If those members are not in MM, they can delegate the tasks to other senior posters who are.
And post here the names of the members to whom you have PM'd the addresses.
Surely you do not have a problem with this!
Escort Fan
04-22-14, 18:42
Hello,
Lately I often stay at Marriot in Resorts World Manila.
I was wondering if there is a place to pick up girls in the complex?
As money usually attract girls I can't imagine RWM is an exception to the rule.
There must be a place to meet girls!
I have my choice not dealing with RUDE, STUPID, ILLITERATE JERKS.Writing as a disinterested observer it seems to me that Ikksman's proposal was a reasonable one. The three adjectives and one noun tossed his way were uncalled for. I'm sure you can can do better.
I have my choice not dealing with RUDE, STUPID, ILLITERATE JERKS.Kindly exercise that choice by familiarizing yourself with the "ignore" button rather than crapping up this thread with your childish pissing match.
Member #4387
04-23-14, 01:57
Hello,
Lately I often stay at Marriot in Resorts World Manila.
I was wondering if there is a place to pick up girls in the complex?
As money usually attract girls I can't imagine RWM is an exception to the rule.
There must be a place to meet girls!You can put on some nice clothes and go into Republiq (nightclub at resort world) , you also have a few bars around this place where girls can be met. Not a huge nimber of FL girls around but they are present. In my last visit I met one I earlier talked to at Havana in Republiq and she was an obvious FL girl. I also did meet a datingsitegirl I fucked earlier on stating she never did go out to have fun so I guess this was an rare event, hehe. I also hear some pickings can be had at the casino. I used to know a girl working there which I met through datingsite and she claimed workinggirls were present (I never been there though). Hope this helps a tad.
I believe Starwood Lounge has been mentioned from time to time here.
So I guess this would be of some interest to the honored board members:
http://kickerdaily.com/nbi-rescues-13-filipinas-6-foreigners-in-an-alleged-pasay-city-sex-den/
Take care out there.
Radical Guy
04-24-14, 19:42
I believe Starwood Lounge has been mentioned from time to time here.
So I guess this would be of some interest to the honored board members:
http://kickerdaily.com/nbi-rescues-13-filipinas-6-foreigners-in-an-alleged-pasay-city-sex-den/
Take care out there.That article is extremely poorly written. In what way were the foreigners "rescued"? Did someone force them to partake of naked lap dances from these so-called "victims"?
RG
Fast Eddie 48
04-24-14, 23:01
LSW, As you are unwilling to post the location of the Fishbowl Saunas, I have the following suggestion.
PM the addresses of the fishbowl saunas to one or more of the senior posters here who will verify the existence, or otherwise, of these facilities. If those members are not in MM, they can delegate the tasks to other senior posters who are.
And post here the names of the members to whom you have PM'd the addresses.
Surely you do not have a problem with this!To Ikksman.
That is why Luke the Lurker are a LOSER no Job nothing better to do other than post fake report he got no Job nor answer,this is his report form TJ that is where he dream about being in ASIA one a usless donkey, Maybe you can ask him name of fishbowl in TJ .
LukeSkywalker.
Senior Member.
Reports.
447
LukeSkywalker.
My 10 years of unemployment.
I have been unemployed for the past 10 years.
I figure Dcell should give me at least 10 girls and 20 tacos for me to recover.
Or find me a job that pay enough so I can take 10 trips to Tijuana next month.
Hehe.
Fast Eddie 48
Econo Tech
04-25-14, 03:11
That article is extremely poorly written. In what way were the foreigners "rescued"? Did someone force them to partake of naked lap dances from these so-called "victims"?
RGRead again. The foreigners mentioned are girls from former cis, and working sans visa.
As for the victims being rescued as the place of work isn't right, the powers-be don't get it. The girls go due to lack of jobs. And to feed their family.
Escort Fan
04-25-14, 07:00
I believe Starwood Lounge has been mentioned from time to time here.
So I guess this would be of some interest to the honored board members:
http://kickerdaily.com/nbi-rescues-13-filipinas-6-foreigners-in-an-alleged-pasay-city-sex-den/
Take care out there.Pity I didn't know this place. Is there any similar club with lap dance in MNL?
LukeSkywalker
04-25-14, 22:24
Stupid, old, ugly and illiterate people tend to take everything literally.
To Ikksman.
That is why Luke the Lurker are a LOSER no Job nothing better to do other than post fake report he got no Job nor answer, this is his report form Tijuana that is where he dream about being in ASIA one a usless donkey, Maybe you can ask him name of fishbowl in Tijuana.
LukeSkywalker.
Senior Member.
Reports.
447
LukeSkywalker.
My 10 years of unemployment.
I have been unemployed for the past 10 years.
I figure Dcell should give me at least 10 girls and 20 tacos for me to recover.
Or find me a job that pay enough so I can take 10 trips to Tijuana next month.
Hehe.
Fast Eddie 48
A few months ago I posted a FR on the newly opened Exclusiv nightclub (formerly Insomnia) in Adriatico Ave near Remedios circle in Malate. At the time of my FR the clientele was mainly Korean, just like how Insomnia was. Since then I've been going to Exclusiv once or twice a week and I'm pleased to report that the Korean klan has mostly moved away to Zzyzx. Exclusiv is now mostly Filipino with a handful or two of round-eyed westerners and it's a good vibe. There are some FLs there - watch out for the ladyboys, some of whom are stunning - but I recommend bringing your own girl. There's no cover charge and only once have I've been told there a minimum consumable charge of p2000 for a table. This was a bluff by the waiter to chisel me; since I had been going there very often, and keep bottles stored there, I knew it was nonsense so I disputed it and the waiter didn't mention it again. Most of the customers are doing beer buckets but I do bottle service, which runs from p1700 to p4000; mixers run approx p100 a can. Except for the one occasion when the waiter tried to fleece me I use the same waiter,"Marco", who is an attentive guy. Keep in mind that Thur-Sat is quite busy so if you're ordering one drink at a time you will end up waiting; it's advised to order a beer bucket or do bottle service. Sunday thru Wednesday the place is kind of dead unless it's the night before a holiday.
What's the noise level like Hut. In most places around there you can't even carry on a conversation.
What's the noise level like Hut. In most places around there you can't even carry on a conversation.Loud. Tough to have a group chat at tables closest to the dance floor. There are couches further away where one could converse with others when using a louder-than-normal voice.
A few months ago I posted a FR on the newly opened Exclusiv nightclub (formerly Insomnia) in Adriatico Ave near Remedios circle in Malate. At the time of my FR the clientele was mainly Korean, just like how Insomnia was. Since then I've been going to Exclusiv once or twice a week and I'm pleased to report that the Korean klan has mostly moved away to Zzyzx.Thanks for the FR! So if I understand you correctly, you will not frequent a club just because a certain group of people go there? Koreans live to make the scene at the disco. I have noticed this from clubs in Olongapo to Cebu. They can be annoying but are tolerable. Is there a dress code at Exclusiv?
You can put on some nice clothes and go into Republiq (nightclub at resort world) , you also have a few bars around this place where girls can be met. Not a huge nimber of FL girls around but they are present.What bars are you referring to? The bars at the Marriott?
I'm sure the Huts will have his own reply, just my comments. In some cases when one ethnic or social group (especially male?) has an overwhelming majority, it can make others feel uncomfortable for a variety of reasons. Some of those reasons are justifiable, others are just male ego and envy issues, and of course there is racism.
As for race, does anyone besides me find the US basketball "scandal" hilarious. Rich old wrinkled guy tells his 20ish mistress, you can fuck AfAm guys, just don't show them in public. Sounds like a pretty open minded guy to me. LOL. I'm pretty sure I've told a few naughty ladies the same thing. I don't want to see your sex life on facebook.
Thanks for the FR! So if I understand you correctly, you will not frequent a club just because a certain group of people go there? Koreans live to make the scene at the disco. I have noticed this from clubs in Olongapo to Cebu. They can be annoying but are tolerable. Is there a dress code at Exclusiv?
What bars are you referring to? The bars at the Marriott?
FruitNinja
04-27-14, 12:51
I'm sure the Huts will have his own reply, just my comments. In some cases when one ethnic or social group (especially male?) has an overwhelming majority, it can make others feel uncomfortable for a variety of reasons. Some of those reasons are justifiable, others are just male ego and envy issues, and of course there is racism.
As for race, does anyone besides me find the US basketball "scandal" hilarious. Rich old wrinkled guy tells his 20ish mistress, you can fuck AfAm guys, just don't show them in public. Sounds like a pretty open minded guy to me. LOL. I'm pretty sure I've told a few naughty ladies the same thing. I don't want to see your sex life on facebook.X Man,
Facebook! I don't think they get. I told the naughty love of my life that she should quit broadcasting every night she fucks a "cusoma." "Papa, you no know." "Baby, how many bedrooms do you have?" Took a few tries until the light bulb went off. When she did get it, half her pictures got deleted. LOL
So if I understand you correctly, you will not frequent a club just because a certain group of people go there? Koreans live to make the scene at the disco. I have noticed this from clubs in Olongapo to Cebu. They can be annoying but are tolerable. Is there a dress code at Exclusiv?Having lived in Seoul for many years I witnessed and experienced some very racist behaviour from Korean males. This is more so for foreign men who date Korean women; Korean women are harassed and intimidated by their male co-ethnics for stepping out of line in betraying the race.
I've been coming to the Philippines for years and have seen the evolution of the club / bar business. For example there was never a two-tier system (girls for Koreans only here, girls for everyone else there) in LA Cafe in the mid-90s. What you have now is a very palpable division that has been created by Korean men; Pinays quickly learn that if they don't shun non-Koreans the word will spread amongst the Korean punters and she'll be shunned by them. I've also noted the emergence of standoffishness by these Korean-only Pinays. Given Filipinos are amongst the most socialable and friendliest people I've come across, the Koreanisation of Pinays brings some less desirable behaviours and attitudes. So given the choice to go to a club where Koreans dominate and one where they don't I'll choose the later.
For a dress code I don't recall seeing a sign posted at Exclusiv, but I reckon singlets and sandals are frowned on. Go with smart casual and you'll be fine.
Steve Nash
04-29-14, 19:43
Arrive in Manila in the morning (my first visit to Phils.) , I was very excited to pop my first cherry with a hot Filipina, but two things I had against me, one I went with my fiance back home (I had to, she paid for my airplane tickets) , so that meant she will be calling me 2-3 times a day to check me out when I was alone in Manila (she was in the province visiting her family) , most of her calls I never answer anyways but I had to call back within 2 hours or else she will get suspicious. The other thing I had against me is that I had to work 6-7 hours everyday the 5 days I was staying in Manila. Anyways I knew from the get go I couldn't have 2 dates per day, so I was contend to have one date per night.
First day after finishing my work I called this hottie I been chatting in FilipinoCupid. Com (all my dates were from that site, I had 60 phone numbers from the girls I chat 2 weeks prior to my trip). We made plans to meet in Robinson mall and go clubbing at Exclusiv nightclub, entrance was free but the beer was expensive (around 100 pesos) ended up spending only 1 hour there because we arrive early and nobody was dancing, we went to another nighclub the same thing, then we went to eat, then to the hotel but we got lost and ended up walking in the Manila Baywalk (where the homeless were sleeping) from Ermita all the way to Star City (almost Asia mall, LOL) she kind of knew we were going the wrong direction but she wanted to talk while walking the baywalk (I guess she wanted to decide if she wanted to sleep with me or not) , so we had to take a taxi back since we walk too far to the hotel. Anyways the good thing was that I pop my first cherry on my first night, she never asked me for money so I gave her 700 pesos for her taxi the next morning.
Second day I text another girl but this time I asked her to come early and cook for me, without hesitation she said yes and came within 2 hours, give her 1,000 pesos to go to Robinson Mall and buy food to cook for that day and for the next day, but I asked her to leave her purse with me in case she wanted to steal my money, after she left I check her purse and it was all garbage stuff that women have on their purse like lipstick, colgate, toobrush, an old hair iron, and other stuffs, I took a risk giving her money but I knew she was coming back because from what I saw on her purse it look like she was planning to sleep in the hotel. By the way she told me she was a model (she was tall and skinny) and 2 of her profile pictures were in a pasarella, but it looked more like a fashion show in a mall, anyways I didn't mind if she was lying to me because she still look hot. She was teasing me and texting me thank you for the 1, 000 pesos I'm home now, have a good day, LOL. Anyways after 1 hour she came back and bought lots of food and fruits and beer, my 1,000 pesos well spent. She cook adobo my favourite dish enough for that day and lunch for the next day. I knew it was about time we are going to have sex, so I put some music we started dancing and 5 minutes later we started kissing (I'm usually good when I dance with a girl and go for the kiss, I just tell them look at my eyes, I look into their eyes and see their soul and they all melt, I'm not bragging is something I been using over the years back home, so of course it will work in Phils too since the girls are easier than back home, by the way for this to work you have to be a good sensual dancer). Anyways that night we had sex 7 times, after the 5th time we felt sleep tired, we didn't even go out that night we stay in the hotel talking, having sex and lots of foreplay. The next morning we had sex 2 more times (one in the shower) but then my fiance calls me in the hotel's phone room, [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) because I never answer her calls the day before, good thing by this time I already told this girl that I have a wife (that's what I tell all of them, even the girl from the day before, I told her after we had sex, so that when they leave they don't get their hopes up in case they want to have a serious relationship with me). Anyways at first this girl accepted and didn't made any noise while I was talking to my fiance, but later on she was a bit pissed (I gave her 1,000 pesos for her taxi, I kind of felt bad for lying to her). But after she left she kept texting me and was already making plans to meet that night since I told her to go clubbing the day before. I was upset that she kept insisting even thought I keep saying to her that I have a work meeting that night (of course I was lying just to get rid of her). Anyways good thing I only book for 2 nights, so that morning I had to hurry and book online for another hotel close by and I told her I was staying in Makati so she won't harass me.
Third day, after settling in my new hotel I worked for a few hours, and then call this other girl from the dating site I met, she is not skinny as the first 2 girls but not shabby either, she kind of look like Spanish her face and her big ass, this girl had been waiting for my call, so when I call her she came right away, within one hour she was at my hotel, I'm like you are too early I still have to work, but when I saw her big ass I said fuck it! Fuck my work! So we talk for 30 minutes and I told her that I have plans at 11 pm with some friends I met in the airport so we can only spend 3 hours together (of course it was a lie, I had another date) , all of the sudden she change her attitude and she was all touchie touchie, and telling me that she wants to come too, I'm like in my mind if she comes she will see that I'm meeting a girl and not some friends, so I said to her if we go dancing I will cancel my friends and we go dancing the both of us only, and she said yes, so I said let's dance first here cause I only go dancing with girls that are good dancers, so I put my music, work my magic and 5 minutes later we are kissing passionately, within 45 minutes that we met we are already having sex! We had sex in the living room, then minutes later in the bed, then minutes later in the shower (her big ass turn me on so much that I had 3 pops in less than 1 hour) , the 4th pop I did it without condom and when I took it out I came all over her hair and the wall, LOL. Anyways I had to call my date and cancel her, she got a bit [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) because she was on the way, but I promise her to go out tomorrow for sure, she understood. Oh man! I love the Philippines!
So we go to the same club Exclusiv nightclub, this time around we stay longer 2 hours (she had to work the next morning) , so back in the hotel we had another 2 hours of sex (I got 3 more pops) , and then we both pass out and fall sleep, at 6:00 am she wakes up (she only slept 3 hours) and got ready to go to work, me half sleeping half awake kiss her goodbye, but I forgot to give her money for her taxi, she never asked me or remind me. I'm thinking next time I see her I will make sure I give her (but I never saw her again).
Fourth day, I call early the girl I cancelled the day before, and I ask her if she can cook for me while I'm working, she said yes with the condition that she can bring her best friend, I'm like hell not! But at the end I feel bad about canceling her and say yes at the end. Big mistake, not only her friend was ugly but it was hard for me to develop any attraction with my date (who was hot and had big boobs, plus she had an amazing voice!) because her friend was always there in our conversations, so after eating I went to work (on my laptop of course that's where I work) make her wait for a while and call another girl to make a last minute date (earlier in the day I cancel this new girl, she wanted to meet in Mall of Asia, but I say let's meet tomorrow) , so when I call her at first she said is too late I made other plans already but then she says ok let's meet, so I took a long shower to make my two visitors tired of waiting me, and it worked because they are telling me that they are tired of waiting for me, and if they can go karaoke tomorrow instead, and I say sure (they didn't expect me to say that, LOL, I think they were testing me or something) , anyways so I tell them just wait for me to finish changing and we leave the hotel together, so we took a taxi and I told them I have to meet some friends in mall of Asia, and they are like: Can we come, I say: No! Only guys night out, even my friend is not bringing his gf. (I made her feel like it was her lost since she was the first one to cancel the karaoke night). Anyways they drop me first and I pay for the taxi to take them home, which was only 400 pesos more. Now in Mall of Asia this girl made me wait for 1 hour so that she can later tell me that she can not make it because she is already in bed, and that tomorrow for sure she will see me, she will even buy me drinks to make up for it, I'm like you better! (But I still took her out of my dating list). So it was already late almost 1 am, and I decide to finally visit LA Cafe. I was very surprise, it was the first time in my life I go to a Filipino Girl bar. Right away lots of girls are staring at me thinking fresh meat, let's take advantage of this newbie, so I started talking to this Filipino guy who's being friendly to me and bought me a beer but I know he is trying to scam me or rob me because he keeps telling me you pick a girl and I pick a girl and we go to a short hotel, don't go to your hotel a short hotel is better, I'm like WTF! So I finish the beer he buys me and then I say goodbye to him and I go upstairs, once upstairs 2 girls approach me we do some small talk but I'm not into them, until I saw this hot girl sitting alone, right away I call her, she comes to my table and we started talking, she is cute, sexy and can keep a conversation, unlike the other 2 girls. So we talk for like 1 hour and then I tell her: don't think because I'm a newbie you can take advantage of me, how much would you charge me? She is like I feel embarrass about asking for money (in my mind I'm like yeah right!) , so I say since you don't want to say a number I will say it: 1,000 pesos, and she is like too low let's make it 1,500 pesos and I spend the night in your hotel. So I say: if you are good in bed I give you 1,500 pesos but if you are not I give you only 1,000 pesos. She agrees and then we go. We spend the first hour in the hotel talking and then 2 hours of sex (we ended up going to sleep around 5:00 am). I wake up around 9:00 am and we had one last round of sex, when all of the sudden the phone rings, I answer and is the receptionist telling me you have another visitor, I'm like what visitor, she says is your fiance and she tells me her name. I'm like oh ssssshit! Can you please tell her to wait for me there. So at this time the freelancer and I are going cucu, she is like walking in circles looking for all her clothes and I'm doing the same trying to clean the room. 2-3 minutes later pass and we hear a knock at the door, is my fiance screaming my name, I took my time opening the door and I tell the girl to hide in the washroom. The first thing I said to my fiance is what are you doing here you suppose to come tomorrow not today what happened? She started crying telling me: she miss me and why I don't miss her, I'm like I do miss you is just that I'm surprise you are here, so we hug, and then she start questioning me why I took so long to open the door, and starts checking all the rooms first the kitchen, then the living room, then the bedroom, and when she was about to go to the washroom I yell at her: Baby let's go eat I'm so hungry my stomach is making noise, is only 5 minutes to 10 am, I'm going to miss my free breakfast. She believes me and then we go down to eat our breakfast (Close-close call!) , once downstairs I tell her wait me here I forgot the free breakfast coupons, so I go up and the girl is waiting in the elevator for me to pay her, I gave her 1,800 pesos (300 pesos more for hiding in the washroom, LOL). Anyways I had not choice to get rid off my phone and pack of condoms since my fiance was going to stay the night in the hotel, I feel bad getting rid off my phone (it was a cheap one only 1,100 pesos) but I had to since I didn't know how to mute the volume, and it kept ringing loud everytime I got a text or phonecall, I gave it to the first cleaning lady I saw, she was so happy, I told her get rid off the sim card and get a new one, she is like I have the same sim card don't worry, but later on I find out she show all my text of the girls I met to other people, and even the security guys were talking about me, but still they were all nice to me (because I always give them tip) , they never mention anything to my fiance even thought she is talking alot with them and the receptionists, even one security guy apologize for letting my fiance go into the lobby, she was suppose to stay in the cafeteria only but she sneak in to the elevator.
Oh man! This is too long of a report! Sorry guys I just like it when I see detail reports, my bad.
Anyways after that I spent my time in my fiance province visiting her family, then we went to Boracay for 6 days (Great Great time! The best part of my trip, but of course I couldn't get any girls because I was with my fiance all the time). I only had one more night that I had to work alone in Manila (I stay in Makati this time) , I made another date online for 9 pm (I didn't have a phone) but I was so tired from Boracay that I felt sleep and wake up at 9 pm, so I had to take a quick shower and go to McDonalds and meet her, but by the time I got there I was more than 1 hour late and she already left (it sucked that I didn't have a phone). Anyways while eating my McChicken I saw this pretty girl with an amazing body and a tight miniskirt eating alone, so I approach her, introduce myself and ask her if she can show me around since is my first time in Makati, she say sure and then we go, I was expecting her to take me to a nightclub (we were 2 blocks to Burgos) , so the first nightclub is a GoGo Bar were she used to work (she said as a bartender, but in my mind yeah right! You were a dancer) , we only drink one beer, then to the next one, that she used to work too (as a bartender, LOL) , again one beer only, the third one was the best, I met this hot dancer who won a pageant miss whatever. She was all over me touching me everywhere, took me to the washroom to blow me I think because she kept touching my penis, LOL, but I say no because people can see us, but we did make out for a while. Anyways my new friend was getting jealous that I wasn't paying attention to her (even thought they were friends) , I ask her for her phone number she give it to me, but my friend wrote it on her phone since I didn't have a phone, she asked me to call her at 6:00 am when she finish her work so she can come to my hotel (my hotel was only 2 blocks from Burgos) , because there was no way I will pay 4,000 pesos to take her out (it was not her price she said, it was the mamasan price because she was one of the most expensive in the bar). Anyways once my bill hit 1,000 pesos I say we have to go, so I left with my friend, to my hotel (by the way there are more homeless people in the 2-3 blocks of Burgos than there are in Ermita in 2-3 blocks, at least that's what I notice that night, maybe because in Ermita most people think I'm Filipino and they don't approach me, and in Makati I was with a bar girl all the time so they might notice I'm a tourist). Once I reach to my hotel I say to my friend, you can sleep at my hotel but I won't pay you because I already buy you alot of drinks, and she said is OK you don't have to pay me, so there we go another night of great sex (this time with a bar girl from Burgos on her day-off) , If I didn't forgot to ask my friend for the number of the bar girl I met in the last gogo bar I might had two freebies from two bar girls in a row, but who knows maybe she give me a fake number, specially since I'm a newbie in my first visit to Philippines.
Arrive in Manila in the morning (my first visit to Phils.) , I was very excited to pop my first cherry with a hot Filipina, [ S N I P ] If I didn't forgot to ask my friend for the number of the bar girl I met in the last gogo bar I might had two freebies from two bar girls in a row, but who knows maybe she give me a fake number, specially since I'm a newbie in my first visit to Philippines.I appreciate the effort you put into your commendable trip report. However, I did not read it all. In fact I read very little. It was too difficult for me to read.
There were paragraphs of up to 50 lines, and many very, very long sentences.
I sincerely recommend all members to keep their sentences short and limit paragraphs to an average of 5-6 lines. IN this way, one's eyes can easily follow the lines on the screen.
I am not flaming, but making a sincere recommendation to improve the enjoyment of this forum.
Pip Jaeger
04-30-14, 00:53
I sincerely recommend all members to keep their sentences short and limit paragraphs to an average of 5-6 lines. IN this way, one's eyes can easily follow the lines on the screen.
I am not flaming, but making a sincere recommendation to improve the enjoyment of this forum.Good advice, but take the time the to read it; some sections are quite funny.
when all of the sudden the phone rings, I answer and is the receptionist telling me you have another visitor,Thanks for the FR, the above part had me LFAO. I guess by now you figured out that you could have just shut your phone off, pulled the SIM, tossed it and deleted the contacts later, but as you said it was only a cheap phone to start with.
As Ikksman said, next time consider breaking your FR into smaller segments / reports or at least into smaller paragraphs.
Member #4387
04-30-14, 02:57
Mr Nash: I laughed a lot from your report. Very funny! The girl hiding in the washroom brings back good / bad memories as I 10 uears or so tried to hide in a shower cabinet with frosty glass when my ex gf walked inside the bathroom. The girl I was doing just did not give a shit and walked outside pretty pissed I did not tell her I did have a gf. No comparison though to how pissed my gf became and that was probably the reason she is a long rime ex gf by now.
You seem maby somewhat above average cautious sending one girl away with 1000pisos with her leaving the bag as some sort of security to you (I mean we are not talking about a fortune here, more like approx US25. If you are lucky you can almost get a topped up paint of lager beer to that price during summertime in Oslo)..
My Recent gf (half pinay) has grandparents in phils (motherside). Not a million dollars would get me to travel with her and since she knows what is going on in phils from a monger point of view (I guess she must have read it somewhere, LOL) I would for sure hell not be allowed to stay alone. As far as my gf know I have never been to phils, even if I have been there many times by now (stealthmode and a fair bit of lying do the trick). What can your gf / wife whatever expect? It is like leaving a kid in a candystore alone for a few days telling not to touch anything.
Anyway keep up the good work.
Arrive in Manila in the morning (my first visit to Phils.) , I was very excited to pop my first cherry with a hot Filipina,[...]An enjoyable read. You had a lot of good adventures and danced on the precipice.
We made plans to meet in Robinson mall and go clubbing at Exclusiv nightclub, entrance was free but the beer was expensive (around 100 pesos) ended up spending only 1 hour there[...]P100 for a beer is a very good price-that's cheaper than LA Cafe. You really don't want to hit that place until after midnight, and often weeknights aren't very good. I was there Sat AM at 2:30 or so and it was packed. Then some overhead lights over the dance floor burst into flames. A couple of bouncers shot the fire extinguishers; this killed the flames but the chemicals coated the place causing a bit of a panic as everyone rushed to the front door to get fresh air.
By the way she told me she was a model (she was tall and skinny) and 2 of her profile pictures were in a pasarella, but it looked more like a fashion show in a mall, anyways I didn't mind if she was lying to me because she still look hot.A lot of girls are models (and beauty-pageant contestants too) , except they really aren't professional models who are making a career of it. More like pursuing a never-to-be-realised dream sold to the gullible by modeling schools.
I feel bad getting rid off my phone (it was a cheap one only 1,100 pesos) but I had to since I didn't know how to mute the volume, and it kept ringing loud everytime I got a text or phonecall,[...]I've found it's best to always have my mobile on vibrate. It reduces a lot questions.
What can your gf / wife whatever expect? It is like leaving a kid in a candystore alone for a few days telling not to touch anything.Speaking of expectations... there is a flip side, yeah? Perhaps she was having her very own adventures. ;)
Member #4387
04-30-14, 14:27
Speaking of expectations. there is a flip side, yeah? Perhaps she was having her very own adventures. ;)Hehe Huts, you are the man. Don't get him all paranoide so early. On the other hand it seems like he was having fun himself so he could realy not complain. I have told myself if I catch my gf cheating me I will be very humble and understanding.
Steve Nash
04-30-14, 15:13
Speaking of expectations. there is a flip side, yeah? Perhaps she was having her very own adventures. ;)That's what I told my fiance: I saw all your pictures on facebook, going to the swimming pool, malls, karaoke bar with your family having fun, and MEEEEEE! I had to stay alone on my hotel room working hard and ordering room service meals because I'm afraid to go outside Ermita, is too dangerous for me, my first time in an Asian country!
By the way Skogis, I'm planning to go to Manila again on January or February but this time with 2 friends (they both want to go after I told them my adventures). But I'm trying to come up with a plan to convince my fiance to let me go to Philippines for 2-3 weeks. Since you have done this many times can you tell me what to do and what to say to her? By the way we live together so we are common-law partners.
Steve Nash
04-30-14, 15:32
P100 for a beer is a very good price-that's cheaper than LA Cafe. You really don't want to hit that place until after midnight, and often weeknights aren't very good. I was there Sat AM at 2:30 or so and it was packed. Then some overhead lights over the dance floor burst into flames. A couple of bouncers shot the fire extinguishers; this killed the flames but the chemicals coated the place causing a bit of a panic as everyone rushed to the front door to get fresh air.WOW! I wish I was there, must be fun after 2:00 am! The latest I stay there was until 1:00 am and it was getting pack, I only left because my date had to work the next day. Maybe instead of going to LA Cafe I should had gone to Exclusiv nightclub.
About the beer price, it was more than 100 pesos, don't remember how much, but I think it was 150 pesos. I'm just used to paying 60 to 70 pesos for 1 liter of Red Horse.
Steve Nash
04-30-14, 15:47
Good advice, but take the time the to read it; some sections are quite funny.
Thanks for the FR, the above part had me LFAO. I guess by now you figured out that you could have just shut your phone off, pulled the SIM, tossed it and deleted the contacts later, but as you said it was only a cheap phone to start with.
As Ikksman said, next time consider breaking your FR into smaller segments / reports or at least into smaller paragraphs.Good suggestion about taking out the SIM card and keeping the phone, I wish I had practice before how to turn it off, how to put it in vibrate and how to open it and take out the SIM card. At that time, with my fiance waiting for me to eat breakfast I didn't know what to do. I like the cheap phones because they do the job of texting and calling only, but I hate it that they are difficult to learn how to do the other things.
About my report overall, sorry guys that I made it too long, I always enjoy reports that are very detail. Like you said I should have made the paragraphs smaller. But I'm glad that at least 3 out of 4 people enjoy my report.
With time I will get better writing my reports, and also get better dating Filipinas. My goal for my next trip is to get laid twice a day while I'm in Manila, hopefully on my next trip I don't have my boss sending me work online.
It was a long read. I thank you for taking the time to post your own story. Happy hunting
Asian Rain
04-30-14, 17:03
Oh man! This is too long of a report! Sorry guys I just like it when I see detail reports, my bad.Nice report. Good luck with that marriage thing. AR
Member #4387
05-01-14, 00:54
By the way Skogis, I'm planning to go to Manila again on January or February but this time with 2 friends (they both want to go after I told them my adventures). But I'm trying to come up with a plan to convince my fiance to let me go to Philippines for 2-3 weeks. Since you have done this many times can you tell me what to do and what to say to her? By the way we live together so we are common-law partners.I don't have an invented line I tell her buts lets say my travelling is more like keeping up with my habits as I used to travel up to 300days a year when we first met. I have lowered this number to lets say 200 to 250 days so she is quite happy about this. I tell her mostly som BS me looking for new places to do investments (real estates). I am not allowed to travel to phils though as she has found out what is going on here (she is half pinay by the way but borned and raised in my country). So this part is the toughest as I allways has to hide passport (stamps) or conveniently "loose" my passport(hide it at my office or at my parents place)or get new ones relatively frequent. Every electronic device such as Ipad,mcomputer, phones etc are prepped, as in answeringmachines and locators are switched off. I am also careful and removes all boardingcards and baggage tags before walking through the door back home.
Unlike your spouse i am quite happy me and gf have worked out a rather comfortable contactregime as in maby a msg in the morning and a good night msg at night(mandatory). Except from the nighty one it is no crises if i forget. Sometimes if drunk i forget the nighty one and then she get pissed(which i allready am, hehe). I try not to call her but keep the communication while i am abroad to a minimum and if sth important skype is beeing used.
I think the main thought around hiding ones mongeringgames is all about habits and not changing them. Girls are sensitive to changes in habits so i just keep up what i have been doing the last 7 years. I am a very laidback person and takes thing as they come and while beeing extremely aroused by lets say a upcoming mongertrip on my inside, i keep a calm fasade to my girl. Sometimes even act like "i realy dont wanna go but you know business". I know ofcourse i can not stop what i am doing and eventually i will get caught. But until then let us have a ball
Steve Nash
05-01-14, 05:19
I don't have an invented line I tell her buts lets say my travelling is more like keeping up with my habits as I used to travel up to 300days a year when we first met. I have lowered this number to lets say 200 to 250 days so she is quite happy about this. I tell her mostly som BS me looking for new places to do investments (real estates). I am not allowed to travel to phils though as she has found out what is going on here (she is half pinay by the way but borned and raised in my country). So this part is the toughest as I allways has to hide passport (stamps) or conveniently "loose" my passport (hide it at my office or at my parents place) or get new ones relatively frequent. Every electronic device such as Ipad, mcomputer, phones etc are prepped, as in answeringmachines and locators are switched off. I am also careful and removes all boardingcards and baggage tags before walking through the door back home.
Unlike your spouse I am quite happy me and gf have worked out a rather comfortable contactregime as in maby a msg in the morning and a good night msg at night (mandatory). Except from the nighty one it is no crises if I forget...Great advice Skogis! You are the man!
You are a lucky bastard! You get to travel alot! I wish I can travel for 100 days a year (during the winter) , more than that I will get bored and I will miss the summer and parties back home. But unfortunately (an unlike you) I can only afford to travel 2-3 weeks per year, maybe I need to find a temporary freelance job abroad since 100% of my work is online and I can do it anywhere in the world as long as I have internet.
So what can I do and what can I say to my fiance, we are suppose to go to my country next year, but now I want to go to Phils with my friends instead. I come up with a plan only one, but it involves alot of luck, alot of lying, and alot of obstacles. So will see what happens!
If anyone has any suggestions please let me know.
.My hat is off to you guys that can pull this off. I never could so I just have a brown sugar come over and visit me 3 or 4X a month here in the USA and save up for my trips abroad. American women just aren't worth putting up with anyways. Once you are used to the sweet, sexy twenty-somethings it is difficult to pound these overweight bitchy motor mouths we have here. As for the dozens of beautiful Filipinas (occasionally Thais, Viets, Cambos, Indos and some Latinas) I see abroad I just tell them I am looking at property on different islands which is true. Plus being in academia I am blessed to attend conferences in those areas once a year or even teach a condensed course there. Maybe find a conference related to your job that you can go to. Happy horndogging!
Arrive in Manila in the morning (my first visit to Phils.) , I was very excited to pop my first cherry with a hot Filipina, but two things I had against me, one I went with my fiance back home (I had to, she paid for my airplane tickets) , so that meant she will be calling me 2-3 times a day to check me out when I was alone in Manila (she was in the province visiting her family) , most of her calls I never answer anyways but I had to call back within 2 hours or else she will get suspicious. The other thing I had against me is that I had to work 6-7 hours everyday the 5 days I was staying in Manila. Anyways I knew from the get go I couldn't have 2 dates per day, so I was contend to have one date per night.Hello Steve,
Cool report. Well done. Good luck with next trip.
Joe
Just back from my brief, but memorable cherry visit to Manila and would like to share a few thoughts in passing. Unfortunately it wasn't much of a tour of duty, as I only spent a few days and will consider this tour, more of a scouting and reconnaissancetrip. However brief, it was definitely, very enjoyable and a lot of fun.
Airport: Arrived midday at Manila Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) and passed through customs quite easily and quickly. No hold-ups, huge crowds or long line-ups to speak of, so all went well and I emerge on the other side of customs inspection / check, with bags in tow, after less then 30 minutes. After hearing the horror stories about NAIA (being on of the worst airports in the world) , I thought this wasn't too bad at all, what's all the fuss about. As I found out later from the taxi driver, it just so happens I arrived on the day of a holiday, so perhaps I got lucky at NAIA.
Changing Money: Decided to exchange a few hundred US$ dollars at the airport (about 44. 20) to get started, but later learned I could have definitely gotten a better deal (about 45. 0) from some of the many money exchange places, dotted throughout the downtown landscape. So next time, I'll probably only exchange about US$50, and use the downtown money exchangers, for larger sums to get the best deal.
Also noted it was a little annoying that the ATMs only dispensed P10, 000 (US$260) , which of course leads to those annoying bank fees, int'l bank ATM fees and exchange rate transaction costs. Yes, I realize that when using the ATMs, you're also paying for convenience, but I am just trying to minimize these costs as much as possible. At times it seemed like I was at the ATMs every day, like clockwork. Although, having P10, 000 seems like a lot of money, initially. It sure can disappear quickly. Not complaining though, as I had a great time spending it.
Does anyone know of an ATM that dispenses more than the daily allotment of P10, 000? If not, then I guess the next best thing is just to bring more US$ dollars, to avoid as many ATM withdrawals and in turn, the bank fees.
Taxi Cabs at NAIA: Most of the quotes for fares from the airport were between P700-500. So I'd like to take the opportunity to thank the ISG members whom tipped me to the idea of taking a taxi from departures level. Great tip, saved me a few pesos and goes to show it pays to RTFF. So I caught an inbound white taxi dropping of a passenger on the departure on-ramp and it worked liked a charm. Just tried to remember (3) things; one (1) asked for the meter, two (2) check to see if they cleared the previous passenger's old fare and three (3) make sure the meter it's not running fast (if it's a daytime pickup. If any one these conditions are not met, then grab another taxi.
While, heading to my hotel from the airport, traffic was fairly light and tolerable. According to the driver, road traffic (on this holiday afternoon) was nothing compared to regular days. But I definitely thought otherwise. Cost of taxi was P160, but after listening to the cab driver's sob / family stories (albeit they were somewhat entertaining) , I tipped him another P100. This seem to be somewhat of a preoccupation with taxi drivers, as well as the constant nagging for a tip. I heard a myriad of sob stories to the point of exhaustion, while on my stay, especially from those cab drivers in Manila. Perhaps a Pinoy pastime with tourists? Much like Brazilians ('jeitinho') , who revel in the game of being able to 'take-a-gringo' for as little or much money as possible. LOL!
LA Cafe at 2pm: I was so excited, I didn't even bother unpacking after arriving. Checked-in, shower quickly and headed straight for LA Cafe (formally MBC). Over the next couple of days and nights spent in Manila, LA Cafe was by far my favourite club / bar. This great little bar provides a nice balance between beer bar, night club (live band) , pool table games, grill / restaurant and sexy Pinoy girls. The only thing missing is a nice go-go-bar area with rooms to match. But really, all things considered, it covers most of the basics any dude could want, all in one place. 24HRS a day. Not too mention at reasonable price!
It was about 2pm, in the afternoon, when I arrived at LA Cafe (on this holiday day) and the line-up of girls wasn't great, but over the next hour or so, things greatly picked up. Spotted a cute dark skinned, sweet sexy spinner, named Sarah. And after a good initial interview, I knew she'd be my first Pinoy. After spending a couple more hours chatting, playing pool and grabbing a bit to eat, we headed back to the hotel. We had agreed on P1500 for short time (2hrs) , but since she turned out to be even more fun, we agreed upon an additional P1000 for longtime, until about 10 am the next day. We bought some ice, booze, and several snacks at the local 7-11 and had a great little party in back at the hotel. (That reminds me, if I never see another 7-11, it'll be too soon).
We sessioned a couple of times before she went home for a change of clothes, came back and we then headed to ZZYZX Disco (pronounced Zee-six and is located within walking distance from the Rothmans Hotel off Adriatico St. At the traffic circle). Although it was a fun, but exhausting fun-filled night out on the town, I mange to session with this sexy Pinoy one more time, before she left that morning.
For the couple days I spent in Manila, this was to be place I frequented the most. I found what I was looking for in LA Cafe, which was basically to have a good time, session with several sexy girls, eat, drink and be merry, without too much running around, looking for P4P in the Manila traffic. Even while hobbying in AC, this was to be my modus operandi (MO). Didn't have too many expectations, other then getting laid by sexy Pinoys at least once a-day (can't believe I'm writing once-a-day, must be getting old, LOL).
The line-up of girls in LA Cafe didn't disappoint. Even though it had more than it's fair share of fuglies, there was definitively more than enough variety of hot, sexy girls to satisfy my every taste and devilish wimps, AT ALL HOURS OF THE DAY. Albeit, not enough real time to sample and checkout all the girls, so subsequent trips are a MUST.
LA Cafe at 8. 00 AM: Coming back from an early morning trek (8am) from the Makati area, I remembered reading an ISG report, about an early morning walk, some orange juice (OJ) and somehow ending up at LA Cafe. Anyway while taking a taxi back from Makati, this story popped into my head. So I figured 'why not? ', and directed to taxi driver to take me to LA Cafe instead, so I could get some of my own early morning OJ.
Unfortunately, there's just no getting around the Manila traffic. As at 8am, the downtown traffic was just horrific and annoyingly slow. Anyway not to worry, my traffic blues soon turned into Pinoy OJ smiles. As I walked though the doors at LA Cafe, I was pleasantly surprised at a fair number (about 15) girls, still milling about. Needless to say, out of the lineup of girls still there. 2 or 3 were very doable. Five (5) min. Later, found a hot light skinned Pinoy by the name of Letica. She was a bit of a pro, but had a terrific pretty little ass, that was very inviting in spandex. So after a round of San Miguel Light, a quick interview, an agreed upon P1500 (ST) , it was back to the hotel. She gave pretty good performance in the 1. 5 hrs and left me with a wonderful early morning OJ smile. Awesome, especially after a fruitless hard night's work, in Makati (see below).
ZZYZX Club (Malate / Ermita) : I had a great time here with my first time Pinoy GFE, Sarah. It's located at the just off Adriatico St. (by the Remedios Circle) and just around the corner from V Hotel (formally the Rainbow Hotel) , which I stayed at. Note, due to the thin walls at V-Hotel, one could even hear the heavy bass playing from the club. ZZYZX has fairly decent music, playing mostly techno with some hip-hop. Looked liked it had some FLs, but couldn't have been too certain, as most of the girls were in groups and therefore possibly just out hanging out, having fun. Since I was with a date, I didn't look to hard. Drinks were reasonable P100 for San Migel Light (I think). Free entrance fee that night (Monday). Closes like 5 or 6am (I think). Very friendly and courteous staff, that went out of their way to my me feel very comfortable.
Salsa St. FL / SW (across the road f / LA Cafe) : While heading to LA Cafe (from the Silver Oaks Hotel) , on Salsa St, there was a nice lineup of cute young girls, hanging out in one of those make-shift street food dining areas. So one time while walking down Salsa, this shrimpy looking mamasan with little to no teeth was pimping these girls with her broken English. It was all quite funny actually. But I notice a couple of really very doable and nice young girls, that I was thinking of taking. Mamasan was asking P3000 (ST. 1hr) , for the real cutie 19yr old, because she was a "new girl". She then offered P2500 (ST. 1hr) , but my very brief interaction (or interview) with the girl, left me feeling like she might be a starfish and I was kinda looking for a LT session. Mamasan keep pressing the girl (I guess she wanted her commission, badly) , but the girl didn't seem interested.
So your luck of finding SWs on Salsa St. Will vary, as I encountered a number of them at various times on my way to LA Cafe. Also the quality will vary, but definitely some cute girls can be found, as I did on one occasion. However, it should be noted (much like AC) , that after hours at night the LBs and TVs tend to take over the Malabini St. And Salsa St corner area.
DCZAR KTV: After some much need rest, I woke up around 2:30 am and for some strange reason decide to walk around to check things out, maybe get a bite to eat. Well before you know it I get propositioned by a tout selling a tour to a number KTVs and / or will naturally provide whatever it is that suits my fancy. Normally I ignore these guys, but with nothing else really better do at 2am, I decide to indulge in the conversation some more and hear him out.
Next thing I know, we're taking a P80 taxi ride to DCZAR KTV, with the promise of nude dancers, hot girls and a good time. From what I've read KTVs, do not offer nudity, so I thought that perhaps I would be reporting on a new location with something different to offer verses the other KTVs around the Adriatico St. Area (which were all within walking distance of my hotel). This was to be my first KTV and I had my doubts whether this type of adult entertainment, would be something I'd like, due to the number of reports I've previously read about KTVs. But I'm open to new things, and thought I'd give it a try.
From Malate / Ermite, DCZAR KTV, is about a 5-10 min. Drive away, at night. It is a large size KTV, with a reception area, lounge area, huge stage, large roomy theater style seating and upwards of 10 or more private cabins. In addition to what I thought was a poor attempt at burlesque style decor, the bad carpeting, smelly mildew odor and uncomfortable large layout, immediately turned me off as I entered the joint and felt it was all just a little cheesy.
IMHO, the floor show was terrible. It's almost like they were trying to present this kind of dance recital, with partial nudity. Which again, IMHO, came off looking pathetic, lame and cheesy. Not sure if the full-Monty was ever achieved, as I left maybe 10 minutes after arriving. Frankly is was that type of show where the girls, were more interesting with their clothes on. The line-up of girls from what I remember weren't anything special. And due to poor lighting, it was difficult to see the girls.
The only good thing I can say, was that all costs / prices were explained to me upfront, before entering and any and all questions were answered by management. There was no attempt to deceive me or dupe me into paying costs unknown. So I knew what I was heading into. For my quick 10 minute stay, my total cost was about P1, 000.
• KTV entrance fee is P500. Plus you must purchase at least 1-drink minimum (I paid P150 for water, I think)
• Plus Taxes of 10% Industry Tax, + plus 12% VAT, is applied on top of your final bill. (22% Tax is mandatory)
• So once you step foot inside and sit down, the minimum you'll pay is about P800)
• P800 / hr for private KTV cabin with girl. (Didn't session with any girls, so I am unaware of what type of behavior or activities are acceptable with the girls)
• Taxi P100 (tip incl.) , tout P50 (since I figured he would also get a commission from the KTV)
Personally, I found DCZAR KTV, to be just lame! It was a complete rip-off and waste of money. But I had my suspicions about KTVs and more or less knew what I was getting into. However, I just wanted to see for myself (ie, scratch the itch so to speak). So time well spent. I knew KTV's wasn't going to be my thing (given most of what I've read here on ISG) , although this club was probably not the best example of what could be an enjoyable experience, given the right circumstances. At some point I will definitely try KTVs again, but presently in no rush to do so.
Apartment / Casa Girls at 4am: After my uneventful visit to DCZAR KTV, I decide to take another side trip to a casa / apartment (or cathouse / brothel). It was about 3:30am in the morning, so I'm not sure if the selection of girls was reflective of the time of day, but the girls were mediocre at best. The taxi driver took me to a casa located at the corner of Edison St. And Faraday St. (Makati). We went into a small compound type place, with small steel warehouse nondescript type doors. One of the security / doormen escorted us into small living room area that seemed to double as a waiting area. As I entered, there were a few girls lounging around, half awake and moments later a few more sauntered in, to form a line-up (about 8 in total) , so that I could take a good look at them all.
Papasan / handler quoted me P4000 for takeout from 4 am until about 8am (could have been 8am the next day, but I don't think it was). I declined the offer and didn't see anything worth negotiating a lower price for. Not to mention the price of P4000, for 4 hours seemed absurd. Especially considering the girls at LA Cafe were a lot nicer (IMHO) , cheaper and willing to sit with you and establish a rapport, while you interviewed them. The seating area in the casa made it difficult to hold any kind of private interview with the girls, which I prefer to do given the chance.
I've read that you can truly find some beauties at these places and apparently Makati is littered with them and a few can be found in Ermita. I know those who really like 'casa girls', like them, because unlike LA Cafe or the go-go bars, you can cut through the BS and whichever girl you pick, will indeed go home with you for the entire evening and night. You basically have until the morning to be with them, in which ever way you deem appropriate. So if you're heading out for a night on the town, catching a show or just shacking-up back at your hotel for the night, it's totally up to you. I can see the appeal and will in all likelihood give it a try again.
Next time, I'll really need to do more exploring, before making a final decision on 'casa girls'. Also it seems, I'll need to get there before 7pm, before the Koreans and Japanese scoop up the best of the bunch. So maybe 4am isn't exactly a good time for acquiring a nice sexy casa girls and I should confine my hunting to the daytime. For the moment all I can report is, that the 4am selection was far from good and IMHO not even worth the taxi drive out there.
Makati Area Go-Gos and Streetwalkers at 4am: 4am to 7am in the morning, is perhaps not the best time to checkout this area either, but there was sufficient action to entertain oneself. Many go-go bars, clubs and restaurants were still open for business, with a fair number of patrons. Walked around and noticed, a small number of SW, hustlers and touts selling their wares. Not sure the reason behind it, but many of the SWs would initially offer to give you 'a massage' and then when pushed on the subject of providing FS, would ever so gingerly discuss FS options. Almost as if they thought I was a LE agent. Anyway most of the SWs in this area, were below average (at 4am) and quoted between P500 for a short time massage to P1500 for FS.
Although I never felt threaten or unsafe walking around Makati between the hours of 4am and 7am, take note that the area seems to be overrun primarily by TV\LBs, until about 7-8am when the working stiffs are heading back to work. The whole situation is kind of hilarious actually and ultimately reminds me of one of favourite songs,"The Freaks Come Out at Night" by Whodini.
Visited several of the go-go bars, that were still open and took a quick look around, but didn't stay more than 5 min. At any particular establishment. I wasn't really in the mood to stay and hunt in the go-go bars at this time, so I can't really report on much of anything, except to say, I did think the girls were slightly better looking than those at LA Cafe, but had more of a snooty attitude. Not enough time to fully tell, so l'll leave it on my 'to-do bucket list' for next time.
Also perhaps for next time, I'll try staying a hotel, out this way for a couple of days, to really suss out the area. The Makati area, looks like a worthwhile endeavor and full of P4P action and seems like a good place to meander for a few days. Bumped into a fair number of tourists (even at 4am) , so it can be too bad.
Time Disco / Club (Makati) : Stumbled on this club about 4am in the morning, while checking out the Makati area and walking around, strolling down Makati Ave (I think). Outside the club, I noticed several tourists (guys and gals) taking a smoke and chatting in what appeared to be an Aussie accent. Note even at 4am, I still had to pay a P300 entrance fee, but at least it did include 1-drink. Drink / beer prices are reasonable and a San Miguel was P150. Pretty sure there are freelancers (FL) semi-pro action, as was evident with one really nice big breasted Pinoy teasing, flirting and rubbing up against several of the Aussie of guys. Most of the girls seemed to dress slightly better than those in LA Cafe, but not necessarily that much prettier, IMHO.
Saw quite a few ladyboys (LB) and one of them came up to me unsolicited and whispers P7000 in my ear and then, just like a snake slithers off back into the crowd, from whence he / she came. Wow that was very weird! Anyways not sure what to make of it, so I just ignore it for the most part. But I was definitely on my guard at that point and my 'gaydar' set on high. Despite the LBs, there were more than a few nice girls there for a Tuesday night and more seem to stream-in even later toward 5am. My guess was that this club perhaps gets a number of the girls from the Makati go-gos (and LBs) , after their shifts are over.
Didn't know what type of club it was or what to expect, but it turned out to be a good time spent. On the way out the doorman confirmed it was a straight / gay bar. Overall good music (mostly techno and trance) , OK club, with a decent balanced-mix of tourists, locals, straight people and gays.
Getting from Manila to Angeles City (AC) :
• From Manila Airport (NAIA). There is a way by bus from NAIA, but wouldn't recommend this option, as it is a bit of hassle and doesn't really save you that much on time or money. If you want the "no hassles" route, simply catch a taxi dropping of passengers upstairs on the departures level. Taxi fare to Victory Liner. Pasay Bus Depot should be no more than P200. Note: There are also other bus lines that go to AC, like Philippine Rabbit, Five Star, Dagupan and have their own bus depots in the Pasay. So let the taxi driver know which specific bus depot your going to, if you have a preference.
• From Malate / Ermita. I choose to take a taxi (P150) from my hotel in Ermita to Victory Liner bus depot in Pasay (www.victoryliner.com). The trip by taxi was about a 20 minutes, at roughly 10:30am, to avoid rush hour type traffic.
• Victory Liner Bus Depot. At Victory Bus Terminal, there maybe 2 types of bus fares; a non-stop express and a regular fare, for between P120-150 [US$3-4]. Take the Victory Line bus w / air con, to Dau. The buses to Dau (Angeles City) leaves on the hour and sometimes each 1/2 hour. The Victory Line, Dau bus depot, is the final / last stop and is actually located 1. 5 km North of AC and the Fields Ave entrance just off the MNR (MacArthur) Highway. From the Dau (Mabalacat) bus depot / terminal, you can take a trike (P100) directly to your hotel or jeepney (P8-15) to the San Fernado / Maingate Jeepney Terminal. The taxi option is about P2-300. If you take the jeepney option (to San Fernado / Maingate Jeepney Terminal) , you'll have to walk, take another trike (P50-100) or jeepney (P10) to your hotel. Best to use this option until you become familiar with AC.
• Online Reviews of Rabbit Buses. Philippine Rabbit have air con buses to Angeles City (in Pampanga Province) , that leave every 30 min, cost P90-120 and the trip takes about 90 min. In AC the bus terminates at their bus station on Henson St, which is located (3. 2 km. 5 min by car) due south of the Fields Ave / MNR (MacArthur) Highway entrance. [Not yet sure about trikes / jeepneys and cost from this location] Note: Online on Facebook previous patrons of the bus line service, really pan the bus line and sound-off about the smell and the dilapidated prehistoric condition of the buses. As one guy puts it,". Coffins on wheels.". Also pan'd here: http://tourism-philippines.com/philppine-rabbit-bus-lines/. So not very good reviews with Philippine Rabbit, so best stick with Victory Liner, where possible.
Note: In hindsight, it may have been better to simply take the bus from Swagmans (Manila) to AC, as I'm told they'll drop you at or close to your hotel. I was travelling light, so all the transfers from taxi, to bus, to trike (and jeepney, to bus, to taxi) , did bother me too much. But I imagine, if you're travelling with large or cumbersome baggages, then a taxi (P2500-3000) or the Swagman bus (P600) options, may best suit or needs.
Getting Back to Manila from Angeles City (AC) :
• On the trip back, simply take your preferred method to transportation to Dau Bus Depot / Terminal and catch whatever bus (P140) is going to Pasay, Manila. You may have a bus line preference, but it's OK to catch any bus going back to Pasay, Manila, as they all take you to Pasay. On the way back (I forget which line I took but) , the bus driver was letting passengers off at various places, like Mataki and Guadalupe. I got off somewhere in Pasay but it was not at the final stop, so I'm not exactly sure where the final bus stop is located. Once in the Pasay area, just ask the driver to let you off at the nearest stop and then take a taxi to the airport or your hotel in Malate / Ermita.
Carriedo Station Area: On a Thursday evening about 6pm, I decided to checkout the Carriedo area SWs. Despite it being rush hour, passenger traffic on the LRT (P12) wasn't too bad at all and was quite tolerable. To get to Carriedo Station, I walked (about 15-20 min) from my hotel up Gil Pedro and Taft Ave. I took the northbound LRT train (at Gil Pedro Station) and got off 3 stops later at Carriedo. Once on the ground, I became disoriented somewhat and ended up walking through the market place on Carreido St. Which turned out to be a nice surprise and a welcome break from the norm.
The market place on Carriedo St. Runs from Rizal Ave to the Quiapo Church, located at the end of the street. I found this to be a very interesting place filled with, street vendors, clothing stores, restaurants and budget shopping malls selling a wide range of goods and services. Also located, albeit in an overall congested area, are two prominent department stores, the Isetann Department Store and a SM Clearance Store. So after about 2hrs walking around and checking things out, I bought a nice fake battery operated Seiko watch for P150 ($3. 40) , a pair of Havana flip flops P130 ($2. 90) and some other assorted trinkets. Walked down towards Quiapo Church and watched some of the worshipers selling their Christian wares, praying in church and paying their respects. Somewhat of a very spiritual area and certainly more than enough religious paraphernalia for the most pious among us. Definitely a nice to place visit if you're religiously inclined.
Doubled back up Carriedo St. To Rizal Ave and proceeded north to Recto Ave. Throughout the walk all the way up to Recto Ave, more street vendors laced the sidewalks, this time mostly selling electronic goods and gears of every kind. From the latest smart phones, laptops, Blackberries, Samsung Galaxy devices, gaming consoles to brand watches. To be honest I couldn't tell what was real and what was a clone knock-off / fake. Most vendors were as charming as ever and of course claimed their product to be the 'real deal'. Seems to be a good area for buying electronic devices cheaply, if you care to take the risk on the quality of the product, be it clone, fake or real.
It was around 9:30-10:00pm now and while walking up Rizal Ave to Recto Ave, I noticed only a few SWs. There were about 12, so not as many as I thought would be working. Once again it would seem, I've come late to the party and perhaps the daytime action is much better. Anyway, several really desperate looking SWs did proposition me and I declined their persistent taunts and walked on. Also saw, a number of low-end beer bars and go-go bars (some with headline strippers) , dotted throughout the area and seem interesting, but I did not venture in. Many of the girls standing in the doorway or sitting just inside these low-bars, seemed a little better and might be worth the effort, especially with a very very inexpensive Sogo hotel nearby.
The Sogo Hotel on Rizal, what a bargain! What's not to like? Just loved the promotions and deals for their rooms with food packages. For less than $10. Tell me where on earth are you going to get a better deal than this? Got the quick 2 min. Tour from the bellhop and looked into a couple of rooms. As far as short time hotel rooms go, they are a pretty nice. Can't speak to the quality of the food, but it looked OK. What a bargain, I thought it was hilarious.
- Premium P408, DeLux P488, Executive P508 (10-12hrs room, incl. Two orders of Cheese Burgers with Fries and 8oz Coke). Monday to Thursday.
- Premium P424, DeLux P496, Executive P548 (10-12hrs room, incl. Two orders of Cheese Burgers with Fries and 8oz Coke). Friday to Sunday.
The Carreido area was a very nice surprise and I enjoyed the cheap shopping, interaction with the locals and diversity of things to see and do in the area. At no time at all, did I feel threatened, unsafe or in any danger (except for the SW taunts, LOL!). Sorry I couldn't report more on the actual SW scene, as it was getting late, once I actually started checking out Rizal Ave. Since it was my first time to the area, I didn't want to overstay my welcome, as the area has been reported as being somewhat dangerous. Well on the bright side, that leaves more for me to investigate the next time I'm in town.
Manila Conclusion
For the few days I spend in Manila, I had a tremendous amount of fun, with very little sleep. Apart from the very heavy traffic, taxi drivers telling you their sob stories and the over-the-top begging at times, I had a great memorable relaxing time. The few girls, I encountered and sessioned with, were a lot of fun and performed with high marks. They were energetic, fun loving and liked to party. Typically I'm not a big drinker, but while on this holiday, I did have a little too much when entertaining with a couple sexy Pinoys. Having a drink or two, turned out to be a good thing and proved to be a nice ice breaker, when attempting to loosen things up. A well placed cocktail here, an ice cold beer there, certainly helped to ease the mood and open up avenues of the conversation and invitation. So hangovers aside, it was all for a good cause and a great time. With a good satisfying novice tour under my belt, I can't wait to come back, as it would seem, I have a lot more exploring ahead of me and I lot more to experience in the Philippines.
Member #4387
05-02-14, 04:13
Read your FR with great interest and you gives out a lot of good info especially to newbies. Almost a must read. Keep up the good work and happy monger games.
Keep up the good workYes, comprehensive and detailed! Spidey, your round-the-clock multi-location itinerary is an inspiration! A Spiderman of Mongering!
I enjoyed your report a lot, very well done. I will be in Ermita playing the field with the ladies there and a few DIA girls.
Perhaps some board members will disagree, but I would never got in a taxi with a tout and have them guide me somewhere. Glad nothing happen.
It has always been my policy never to associate or even talk / acknowledge to anyone outside the hotel or business establishment eg. Department store etc
Member #4387
05-03-14, 04:44
From my latest stay in Makati I need to share to the readers (and lurkers) what did happen to me. It is all written with a touch of humor as the situation was out of this world (atleast in my book). It is a follow up by my post in general thread worrying about time.
This DIA chick agreed to meet up with me and she was very liable she would bring her friend or not. I told her to do as she pleased as in what was most comfortable to her. She told she would bring her gay cousin. Wow I thought maby chances for a threesome raised but what did I know. A threesome as in maby this gay cousine would atleast do some lick job and maby accept some male disturbance as well.
On her way here (she was very delayed) she must have send what was like between 80 to 100 texts (my worst experience ever). Before she left (earlier same day) around 50 or so texts must have been passed through the Smart Buddy system. 50% of the texting was the BS question "what are you doing now"? (that is ofcourse ok to ask maby 1 or 2 times but not every 10 minutes).
I did tell her maby 10 times or so the adress for our meeting without helping. She could not just get it. When close she gave her phone to the driver so we made out the deal. As you may understand I was getting somewhat pissed at this moment.
She did tell she bring only her cousin, right? Well when she arrived they where 4 people. 5 if I count in the driver who was a friend of the family (was he going to wait??? Or sth). Dia girl, gay cousin (was her male brother 17 yrs old) , her sister with a relatively newborn baby. I though OMG what is this but soon turned the situation into one of them surrealistic happenings and I decided WTF lets go through with this family picknic. By the way they did bring equipment for long stay as they all did carry backpacks with stuff to reside for long time outside their house. I did on instinct give out my best BS excuse so that plan of staying with me for long time vanished all in a sudden. Thanks God i am no newbie and know my way around weird situations.
I Gave the driver 500piso so he could grab a bite while waiting and off we stralled to an eatery close by. The gay brother was the one translating everything as his english was above average and almost excellent. My dia girls english was hardly anything to write about. It proved it was mostly the gay brother having arranged everything out of my girls account. We ordered some foods and I put in an order of two instant dbl black labels to calm myself down. We ate and had a failry good time as they were all friendly and the dia girl told me allready she loved me and the gay brother encouraged me to kiss her. I did to a big cheer from the rest of the familymember. The infant I do not know realising anything, for his sake I hope not.
After dinner the gay brother suddenly told me the dia girl wanted to have sex with me. That was my initial plan anyway but from this angel (he telling me) it sounded only weird. At this stage of the date I was more or less willing to just throw some money on the table and leave. But since it was such a weird situation the little head started to do the big heads work and I thought WTF. Things can hardly get any worse by now so off we went and into my apartment.
I gave the rest of the family some chocodrinks and turned on some cartoons for them to watch. I did some I'd checks and found out my DIA girl claiming to be 19 was realy 22 (blaming her profile creater, gay brother for this mishap, who cares realy?). We (me and her)went into the bedroom, closed the doors and session began.
I give her that that she put up her best effort to give decent head and she was actually kind of sexy. She did ofcourse look slightly different from her pic but so did I so could not realy blame her for the fake pic. No comments were made despite I this time did infact had a photo don't looking anything like me at all, hehe. It is my own personal experiment as I think in most cases girls don't give a shit and this time I did no upfront screeningjob as in webcam sessions.
We did a 2 pops session and she was rather horny. I was only to some extent disturbed by her "I love you" comment.
Session ended I gave her 2k piso and she was almost fainting out of pure luck. I threw in a couple of more blue notes on the table making it all in a 4k adventure (so the family could have some nice time as well)plus dinner costs and driver cost.
I escorted the family out on the street and offered them my best "get quickly away" line. I was seriously happy when all this was over so I felt like a happy man again when stralling into the Mall to sit down having a contemplative beer. Freedom! To their defence they were very friendly and nice people. The girl was also a 7 in my book. Not to bad realy. Anyone out there with simular experiences.. Wanna share???
Great story. I usually don't have a suite (separate bedroom) so I would have told them to go off to the food court. LOL. Either that or ask one of them to take pictures during the session. I'm sure the gay brother would have been happy to oblige. X.
From my latest stay in Makati I need to share to the readers (and lurkers) what did happen to me. It is all written with a touch of humor as the situation was out of this world (atleast in my book). It is a follow up by my post in general thread worrying about time.
This DIA chick agreed to meet up with me and she was very liable she would bring her friend or not. I told her to do as she pleased as in what was most comfortable to her. She told she would bring her gay cousin. Wow I thought maby chances for a threesome raised but what did I know. A threesome as in maby this gay cousine would atleast do some lick job and maby accept some male disturbance as well.
On her way here (she was very delayed) she must have send what was like between 80 to 100 texts (my worst experience ever). Before she left (earlier same day) around 50 or so texts must have been passed through the Smart Buddy system. 50% of the texting was the BS question "what are you doing now"? (that is ofcourse ok to ask maby 1 or 2 times but not every 10 minutes).
I did tell her maby 10 times or so the adress for our meeting without helping. She could not just get it. When close she gave her phone to the driver so we made out the deal. As you may understand I was getting somewhat pissed at this moment.
She did tell she bring only her cousin, right? Well when she arrived they where 4 people. 5 if I count in the driver who was a friend of the family (was he going to wait? Or sth). Dia girl, gay cousin (was her male brother 17 yrs old) , her sister with a relatively newborn baby. I though OMG what is this but soon turned the situation into one of them surrealistic happenings and I decided WTF lets go through with this family picknic. By the way they did bring equipment for long stay as they all did carry backpacks with stuff to reside for long time outside their house. I did on instinct give out my best BS excuse so that plan of staying with me for long time vanished all in a sudden. Thanks God I am no newbie and know my way around weird situations.
I Gave the driver 500piso so he could grab a bite while waiting and off we stralled to an eatery close by. The gay brother was the one translating everything as his english was above average and almost excellent. My dia girls english was hardly anything to write about. It proved it was mostly the gay brother having arranged everything out of my girls account. We ordered some foods and I put in an order of two instant dbl black labels to calm myself down. We ate and had a failry good time as they were all friendly and the dia girl told me allready she loved me and the gay brother encouraged me to kiss her. I did to a big cheer from the rest of the familymember. The infant I do not know realising anything, for his sake I hope not.
After dinner the gay brother suddenly told me the dia girl wanted to have sex with me. That was my initial plan anyway but from this angel (he telling me) it sounded only weird. At this stage of the date I was more or less willing to just throw some money on the table and leave. But since it was such a weird situation the little head started to do the big heads work and I thought WTF. Things can hardly get any worse by now so off we went and into my apartment.
I gave the rest of the family some chocodrinks and turned on some cartoons for them to watch. I did some I'd checks and found out my DIA girl claiming to be 19 was realy 22 (blaming her profile creater, gay brother for this mishap, who cares realy?). We (me and her) went into the bedroom, closed the doors and session began.
I give her that that she put up her best effort to give decent head and she was actually kind of sexy. She did ofcourse look slightly different from her pic but so did I so could not realy blame her for the fake pic. No comments were made despite I this time did infact had a photo don't looking anything like me at all, hehe. It is my own personal experiment as I think in most cases girls don't give a shit and this time I did no upfront screeningjob as in webcam sessions.
We did a 2 pops session and she was rather horny. I was only to some extent disturbed by her "I love you" comment.
Session ended I gave her 2k piso and she was almost fainting out of pure luck. I threw in a couple of more blue notes on the table making it all in a 4k adventure (so the family could have some nice time as well) plus dinner costs and driver cost.
I escorted the family out on the street and offered them my best "get quickly away" line. I was seriously happy when all this was over so I felt like a happy man again when stralling into the Mall to sit down having a contemplative beer. Freedom! To their defence they were very friendly and nice people. The girl was also a 7 in my book. Not to bad realy. Anyone out there with simular experiences. Want to share?
LukeSkywalker
05-03-14, 19:00
This is a very good story of the unique lifestyles in the Phil.
With the cramped and squalid living conditions in the Phil, it appears sex is not an intimate, but more like a casual and semi public act, like taking a dump at the communal outhouse. With this very close living condition and casual attitudes regarding sex, I wonder if **** may be rampant in Filipino families.
I don't know any country where the whole family would show up to offer their daughter for sex with a stranger in the next room. It seems this family is very desperate and would do anything for a little money.
The whole scenario feels weird, but it would be fun to have a horny girl, if she is very pretty, and a kinky turn on to have her family hanging out in the next room, listening in on her sex noises. I would send the family out on the street and lock the door tight, so the girl and I can have a completely relaxed time together. I suppose for people who live in 1-room homes and have sex while the rest of the family pretending sleep, it's not a novelty.
I looked at many Filipinas' pictures in DIA, not too many were attractive. Many of the best-looking ones turned out to be transsexuals. A girl in China showed her very pretty picture in DIA. I went out of my way to meet her, but she looked a lot worse than her touched up pic with her lumpy, out-of-shape body, frumpy clothes and ghetto attitude. I was very disgusted and angry at that girl. To me DIA is a big waste of time to meet girls from the bottoms of the barrels in their countries. I just gave it up.
With this story, I am convinced Filipinos have much looser morals compared to other Asian countries or any country in the world.
From my latest stay in Makati I need to share to the readers (and lurkers) what did happen to me. It is all written with a touch of humor as the situation was out of this world (atleast in my book).
After dinner the gay brother suddenly told me the dia girl wanted to have sex with me.
We did a 2 pops session and she was rather horny. I was only to some extent disturbed by her "I love you" comment.
Session ended I gave her 2k piso and she was almost fainting out of pure luck. Anyone out there with simular experiences. Want to share?
Econo Tech
05-04-14, 11:49
With this story, I am convinced Filipinos have much looser morals compared to other Asian countries or any country in the world.Maybe the church actively ensuring sex education doesn't move ahead too far. Maybe a contributing factor, and the American influence of casual sex does play a part in some educated crowd thinking it is cool to have ONS etc.
Then again poor people all over most 3rd world countries are alike. When I was in India a guy brought his sister and knowing what may happen, left me with her while he went to the market and acted dumb when his sister was smiling.
And that was in the very countryside and their seasonal crop had failed for two years in a row. And my donation was going to help buy a few goats to revive their fortune.
So?
Maybe you haven't met good Filipinos to pass judgement.
As much as Kris Aquino writes about her exploits and nots and being the talk of the town I know a lot of parents who are totally opposite.
Like some I know in the mountain province who send their kids to larger towns when they reach high school age, sometime putting them in crowded relatives house, relatives who are happy to host the kids, and when I asked why they do it, is it because the rural schools are bad. The answer was almost same.
The parents and the relatives willing to host know, if the kids. Especially girls, stay in the rural schools most likely they WILL get pregnant. Which does not happen in the larger towns and the kids are kept under a tight leash, an reminded of the repercussions if they get sex troubles.
For comparison. A TV program on teenage pregnancy in Philippines was asking some girls why they got pregnant. And the answer was mostly like 'my sister has a baby, I felt I should have one too. ' or 'my boyfriend felt we are ready to have our own baby. ' (the bf mostly having vanished once the girl got preg) and never mind the fact the mothers and grandmothers of the baby were struggling to even buy milk. And virtually the whole family was living is shacks surrounded by pigs, dogs and garbage.
On an educated side, I casually asked a teenager in a town playing with her sister's kid if she want her own, and the reply was opposite. It was like 'are you crazy? It is not cheap and so much painful to take care of babies, I will wait till I grow old, get a job and marry and then think of babies. '
Luke brings up an interesting topic, but I'd like to clarify that Skogis didn't have the "whole family" in the next room. It was a younger brother, sis, and a baby.
Occasionally you'll find a gal who wraps herself around you while sleeping. THis is great for the ego, but doesn't make for a good night's sleep. I've wondered if these types had grown up sleeping in one bed with several brothers ands sisters. I never thought to just ask. Maybe because I was too sleepy. LOL.
This is a very good story of the unique lifestyles in the Phil.
With the cramped and squalid living conditions in the Phil, it appears sex is not an intimate, but more like a casual and semi public act,
SNIP
Luke brings up an interesting topic, but I'd like to clarify that Skogis didn't have the "whole family" in the next room. It was a younger brother, sis, and a baby.
Occasionally you'll find a gal who wraps herself around you while sleeping. THis is great for the ego, but doesn't make for a good night's sleep. I've wondered if these types had grown up sleeping in one bed with several brothers ands sisters. I never thought to just ask. Maybe because I was too sleepy. LOL.A lot of Filipina like to sleep on their side with their legs and arms wrapped around a bolster. Sleeping with you, they like to use you as their bolster (as long as the room has aircon, or the weather is cool). I give them a pillow to use, so I can get a good night's sleep.
Going back to the original topic, I never found any middle class or educated girls interested in having their siblings present when they bang their guys. So Perhaps only those from rural class backgrounds in financially desperate positions (that is 90% of them) , would be willing to consider sex in this manner.
The family members are only present in the hope of also gaining financially from the dayuhan windfall. Probably they even discuss this situation with their sisters (which includes bakla brothers). And they might also discuss 2 sisters sharing the dayuhan. I doubt they would discuss any of these matters with other family members.
These attitudes are not limited to the PI. On the Hong Kong board, I once posted about an Indonesian girl (a DH) who, if I would look after her, then she would also share her sister with me.
Hi guys,
This summer I plan to go to Corregidor and tour battle sites. The evening, however, may be a different story. Where in that area is the best place to find some cute spinners to entertain my lonely nights? I am not familiar with the Phils so any info would be much appreciated!
Hi guys,
This summer I plan to go to Corregidor and tour battle sites. The evening, however, may be a different story. Where in that area is the best place to find some cute spinners to entertain my lonely nights? I am not familiar with the Phils so any info would be much appreciated!It's usually done as a day trip Joe. You can stay overnight if you want but nothing extra is gained by staying. If you need a female companion then you must take your own but remember: filipinas will not know ANYTHING about Corregidor or about the war or care much about it either so she will probably be bored to death.
As an example, see http://www.corregidorphilippines.com/packages.html
FreebieFan
05-07-14, 03:01
Hi guys,
This summer I plan to go to Corregidor and tour battle sites. The evening, however, may be a different story. Where in that area is the best place to find some cute spinners to entertain my lonely nights? I am not familiar with the Phils so any info would be much appreciated!The hotel is old and basic. If you don't have your won girl with you you and your hand will be well acquainted. Exactly as RK says, most people, even from Manila have never heard of, or know of the history of Corregidor.
I found it fascinating and totally enjoyable as its peaceful and no cars are allowed on the island, but for the average Filipina they might complain theres no jollibee. LOL. So even if you take the day trip, you might find it very interesting. A very peaceful change of pace from the chaos of Manila.
Exactly as RK says, most people, even from Manila have never heard of, or know of the history of Corregidor.Very sad, I am not even American, and I know the history associated with Corregidor. But there again, an American colleague of mine insisted that the Leyte Macarthur Monuments was in Australia! Surely these must be the most famous war statues in Asia for Americans?
Cheers
P.S. One of the statues is now a fallen soldier due to Typhoon Haiyan!
Steve Nash
05-07-14, 15:05
From my latest stay in Makati I need to share to the readers (and lurkers) what did happen to me. It is all written with a touch of humor as the situation was out of this world (atleast in my book). It is a follow up by my post in general thread worrying about time.
This DIA chick agreed to meet up with me and she was very liable she would bring her friend or not. I told her to do as she pleased as in what was most comfortable to her. She told she would bring her gay cousin. Wow I thought maby chances for a threesome raised but what did I know. A threesome as in maby this gay cousine would atleast do some lick job and maby accept some male disturbance as well.Good story Skogis, your title "The Adams family reunion" is perfect for your story, LOL.
You know what? Something similar happened to me in Cuba on my second trip to the island 4 years ago, not sure if I wrote a trip report from that trip yet, if I didn't I should write one because I had lots of adventures on that 2 weeks multiple cities trip. Anyways, what happened to me that time wasn't as unreal as yours.
I met this Cuban girl from Badoo (by the way in Cuba the best way you can meet girls online is from Badoo, well that was back then, not sure now) , she lived in the province 3 hours from Holguin the city I was staying, she calls me from the lobby, so I go to welcome her, but I can not find a single girl around waiting for me, I only see families, when all of the sudden she calls me and says: "I'm here in front of you with my parents", I look up and I see her 2 parents (very old dudes in their 60s) , I'm like, turn around and said: "Wait I have to do something first", so I leave and go to the swimming pool, sit on the pool chair and I start thinking what can I do to get out of this, this is the first time in my life I meet a girl for the first time and she brings her parents to me (I'm like, I just want pussy I don't want to get merry).
So I go back to the lobby and I tell her in private: "There is no way your parents are staying with us in the hotel", she goes: "Don't worry they just want to meet you and give me the thumbs up if I can stay with you in the hotel or not, just be nice to them and they will approve, my dad has to work anyways (he worked close by) , my mom will go to my aunt house who lives here in Holguin". So after that I'm OK let's do this (let's get it over with). I introduce myself, the dad is a funny guy and both seem pretty cool for their age, so I invite them to the pool restaurant to eat some breakfast, after 1 hour of talking and even drinking a couple of beers with the dad, he tells me that he needs to go to work and then invites me to go visit him to his town for a popular festival they will have the next weekend, we say our goodbyes they both leave and I get to stay with her daughter for the night!
The next day this girl wants to stay longer, but I lie and I tell her that I will be leaving to Camaguey that night. Of course two days later I saw her in the plaza Calixto Garcia, I tried to hide from her but she could still see me but by that time I disappear in the sunset.
Econo Tech
05-08-14, 01:58
The hotel is old and basic. If you don't have your won girl with you you and your hand will be well acquainted. Exactly as RK says, most people, even from Manila have never heard of, or know of the history of Corregidor.I was asking some friends on my plans to go to Lingayan Gulf, Samar and Surigao. As these were turning point battles of WW2.
9 out of 10 were like, there is no tourist attractions there or suggest I go to Boracay and the likes.
As a history buff, it is sad indeed.
LukeSkywalker
05-09-14, 02:37
What I called fishbowls in Manilla may confuse a few stupid dicks in the China thread.
Unlike Bangkok and Manila where fishbowls are glassed-in rooms where the girls sit on elevated benches for viewing, the places in Ermita and Makati are large rooms where girls sit on chairs and benches around the perimeter. Guys are allowed to wander, get up close and mingle with the girls. The girls are for take out only. They never mentioned rooms for sex in the buildings. I picked up a few very sweet and good-looking young and fresh girls from these places. The selections are much better than MBC / LA Cafe and the bars on P Burgos.
They look and work like fishbowls so I call them fishbowls. What do local bros call these places? Fishbowls or brothels. There are no rooms for sex on the premises, so the term brothels may be incorrect.
I gave instructions for these places to a few bros who visited Manila. Don't know whether they used the directions and found any good places.
A few ugly, marrow-minded, mean-spirited, despicable guys like CRASS EDDIE and ICKYMAN seized on the term and made stupid asses out of themselves.
Pip Jaeger
05-09-14, 03:58
They look and work like fishbowls so I call them fishbowls. What do local bros call these places? Fishbowls or brothels. There are no rooms for sex on the premises, so the term brothels may be incorrect.They're referred to as a "casa". Reports about them pop up here every once in a while and seems selection varies; possibly due to the time of day the bro went. Am curious to learn a few more details from you, like how much of a donation you gave? And how long ago and time of day?
FreebieFan
05-09-14, 04:22
I was asking some friends on my plans to go to Lingayan Gulf, Samar and Surigao. As these were turning point battles of WW2.
9 out of 10 were like, there is no tourist attractions there or suggest I go to Boracay and the likes.
As a history buff, it is sad indeed.Theres little sense of curiosity. Or interest in the history of where they live.
Once, a relative of wifes was in Philippine General Hospital in Manila.
I was telling the relative and two nurses some of the history of the hospital, how it was used in the 2nd WW, and how the Americans bombed it killing many, as the Americans thought Japanese troops were hiding in it.
They both asked me if Manila was involved in 2nd world war as they never learnt this in their school history lessons (they are only taught about Magellan, and Bonifacio and Rizal ). I advised them that 100, 000 Manilenos were killed.
Theres little sense of curiosity. Or interest in the history of where they live.
Once, a relative of wifes was in Philippine General Hospital in Manila.
I was telling the relative and two nurses some of the history of the hospital, how it was used in the 2nd WW, and how the Americans bombed it killing many, as the Americans thought Japanese troops were hiding in it.
They both asked me if Manila was involved in 2nd world war as they never learnt this in their school history lessons (they are only taught about Magellan, and Bonifacio and Rizal ). I advised them that 100, 000 Manilenos were killed.I studied Pacific History at school. We were taught that the American artillery in Manila killed twice as many Manilenos in 3 months as the Japanese did in 3 years. I am a bit hazy on the exact stats, so I stand to be corrected.
I also remember that the Japanese set up devices on the roof of the Philippine General Hospital that emitted flashes and noise to emulate large guns so directing American fire at the PGH!
Sorry, A bit off topic!
Cheers
LukeSkywalker
05-09-14, 06:47
A local friend and I went searching Manila for all night companies about 6 PM last year.
Casas in Ermita were near the US embassy, smaller, had about 20 girls each. Standard rate was 2000 pesos for all night. There were no clients while we were there. May be too early. The girls in Ermita did not look very good, but they would still be younger and better-looking than 90% of girls in MBC. I was told better materials would show up later in the night. Looks like the girls were hungry for business.
Went to a few places in Makati. They were big, basic rooms with plain chairs and benches against the walls. Each place had 30-40 girls, wearing casual clothes, sitting, roaming, watching TV, talking among themselves like they were at home. There were only a few guys at each place. They would check out the girls up close, talking to them, but no touching.
I got excited, finding many girls exceeding my expectation. I picked a young, fresh, sweet-looking girl. The guy wanted 4000 pesos for all night. My local friend bargained with him a little and he agreed to 3000 pesos. Took the girl to a fancy seafood dinner, then back to the hotel. She hardly ate anything. She was 19, one of the sweetest, best-looking girls I ever met, with a pretty face and flawless body, like a movie star, and she speaks good English. That made her company very enjoyable in and out of bed.
At least to my taste, Sex with Pinays is much more satisfying because they can speak English. Potentials for GFE is probably better with casa girls than with hardened bar girls at MBC or on P Burgos.
I was there early 2013, so it has been over a year . I went with a local bro, so would have to rely on him to find these places again. Just remember 1 casa not far from MBC, between MBC and the US embassy.
They're referred to as a "casa". Reports about them pop up here every once in a while and seems selection varies; possibly due to the time of day the bro went. Am curious to learn a few more details from you, like how much of a donation you gave? And how long ago and time of day?
LukeSkywalker
05-09-14, 07:15
Did Icky ever graduate from middle school? The way Icky acted in this forum, he must have been a schoolyard bully, who did lots of wanking but not much learning.
Icky should not be making crass accusations against US troops without evidence, like he was smearing other bros in ISG. Unless Icky were a Nazi or Japanese Imperial troop, it was US troops who saved his ass and his ancestors' asses in WWII.
Without US troops, Icky would be just a comfort boy, offering up his ass to comfort Nazis or Japanese Imperial troops.
I studied Pacific History at school. We were taught that the American artillery in Manila killed twice as many Manilenos in 3 months as the Japanese did in 3 years. I am a bit hazy on the exact stats, so I stand to be corrected.
I also remember that the Japanese set up devices on the roof of the Philippine General Hospital that emitted flashes and noise to emulate large guns so directing American fire at the PGH!
Sorry, A bit off topic!
Cheers
FreebieFan
05-09-14, 08:35
Did Icky ever graduate from middle school? The way Icky acted in this forum, he must have been a schoolyard bully, who did lots of wanking but not much learning.
Icky should not be making crass accusations against US troops without evidence, like he was smearing other bros in ISG. Unless Icky were a Nazi or Japanese Imperial troop, it was US troops who saved his ass and his ancestors' asses in WWII.
Without US troops, Icky would be just a comfort boy, offering up his ass to comfort Nazis or Japanese Imperial troops.Man. You sound like a 14 year old who has just had his first beer.
Please, breathe, relax and think clearly and lucidly before typing.
The board works fine without all the adoloescent name calling.
I started the discussion by talking about PGH from a factual historical perspective.
Ikksman corroborated what I had written and we were both referring to the Battle of Manila, not Americas role, past present or future in saving the world.
Stay on message sunshine, contribute in a meaningful and grown up way, and we will all be the better for it.
Man. You sound like a 14 year old who has just had his first beer.
Please, breathe, relax and think clearly and lucidly before typing.
The board works fine without all the adoloescent name calling.
I started the discussion by talking about PGH from a factual historical perspective.
Ikksman corroborated what I had written and we were both referring to the Battle of Manila, not Americas role, past present or future in saving the world.
Stay on message sunshine, contribute in a meaningful and grown up way, and we will all be the better for it. This reminded me that my brother served in Vietnam alongside Americans. In fact, at times he fought in American units. These were personnel swaps organised by Col. David Hackworth, one of the most decorated American soldiers of all time! I had the honour of meeting him when he shifted to the Sunshine Coast in Australia. I used to help him with his internet connections and computer problems. We became good friends. RIP Old mate!
Hey guys!
Great to have a read of the recent trip reports posted here by some members. After much delay over the years about whether to travel to the Philippines, I have finally decided to take the plunge and will be arriving there for 3 weeks starting from the end of July. Had always wanted to travel there, but kept reading about stabbings and shootings happening and it did put me off a little, but I think I will just be very careful when I head over there.
Have booked accomodation at the Holiday Inn & Suities as the location seems quite good, especially with it being directly connected to the Glorietta Mall and it's close by to Greenbelt. I'll pay up on membership before I fly over there, so if anybody happens to be around at that time and would like to catch up they're welcome to message. I'll mostly be keeping in touch with girls through DIA, FC and some other sites a couple of weeks before the trip and also once I am over there, from everything I have been reading it seems like it's quite easy to mingle with the locals, so should be quite fun.
How is the bars in Manila, as per young girls. Is there anything like BATS (Indonesia) or BRIX (Singapore) over there. What are the best places to pick up girls. Or is brothel network strong in Manila. Please advice.
Thanks in advance.
P. S. I read through the forum but there are very mixed info. Cannot get a clear picture.
Wicked Roger
05-09-14, 15:36
How is the bars in Manila, as per young girls. Is there anything like BATS (Indonesia) or BRIX (Singapore) over there. What are the best places to pick up girls. Or is brothel network strong in Manila. Please advice.
Thanks in advance.
P. S. I read through the forum but there are very mixed info. Cannot get a clear picture.Your last 9 FRs were all questions along the same lines as this one. If you RTFF you will find lots of good information on where to go so maybe review more than just the last page as plenty of information for the newbie to read and find
And then write a FR about the experience as you don't seem to do this much.
And by "young girls" please explain as the policy of the board is over 18 so I hope you mean that.
Good luck witht eh RTFF.
LukeSkywalker
05-09-14, 23:37
I meant "unlike Bangkok and Pattaya," not Manila.
Have to make the correction quickly so the dumb pit bulls have no chance to bite into it like their worthless lives depend on it.
What I called fishbowls in Manilla may confuse a few stupid dicks in the China thread.
Unlike Bangkok and Manila where fishbowls are glassed-in rooms where the girls sit on elevated benches for viewing, the places in Ermita and Makati are large rooms where few bros who visited Manila. Don't know whether they used the directions and found any good places.
A few ugly, marrow-minded, mean-spirited, despicable guys like CRASS EDDIE and ICKYMAN seized on the term and made stupid asses out of themselves.
LukeSkywalker
05-09-14, 23:49
Icky's brother was a comfort boy too?
Must be very nice ducking patrols and staying in bed all night with the American colonel! Hehe.
This reminded me that my brother served in Vietnam alongside Americans. In fact, at times he fought in American units. These were personnel swaps organised by Col. David Hackworth, one of the most decorated American soldiers of all time! I had the honour of meeting him when he shifted to the Sunshine Coast in Australia. I used to help him with his internet connections and computer problems. We became good friends. RIP Old mate!
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