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Caloocan is plentiful if you know where to look (its all online). Caloocan QC area is a huge playground. You can probably pull girls from areas just outside also like fairview, malabon, venezuela, tondo and the cubao area. If you are anywhere near the rail, it will be easy to get girls to come to you.Planning ahead, I have my Tour planned on August I will be trav to multiple destinations, so just gathering info I will be in Manila or (Metro Manila) and Caloocan will check things out. I am Fairly interested in just Philippines while I am there, I definitely don't know where to look at this moment but please do let me know where to look online or some good website. Thank you for replying.
MK.
Planning ahead, I have my Tour planned on August I will be trav to multiple destinations, so just gathering info I will be in Manila or (Metro Manila) and Caloocan will check things out. I am Fairly interested in just Philippines while I am there, I definitely don't know where to look at this moment but please do let me know where to look online or some good website. Thank you for replying.
MK.Pina Love, TanTan, Date in Asia and Tinder. Just always ask if they are a girl. The prettiest are just as likely to be a ladyboy. I use them all in free mode.
There is an old saying "A fool know the price of everything but the value of nothing."What does that make someone who knows the value of everything but the price of nothing?
Locamotive
03-19-25, 16:27
Never said that. But interpretations in this forum is just another level here. We all willingly to do some crazy things with our money, because well, it's our money, and anybody can do whatever with their money, but even when we do it we are self conscious we doing it like that guy who asks the question about offering 5000 to save time, he consciously know it's extra, but he also wants some quick 'yes'. To take your example again, yes, I, myself, once paid $150 in Nigeria for a Arya starr lookalike (google that one), for those who don't know what she looks like here's her insta https://www.instagram.com/ayrastarr/?hl=en . The girl was a lookalike body and face it was crazy, on top of the drinks, could easily reached $200 on that encounter alone. Does that mean it's the regular rate over there with college students if ever you planning a trip to nigeria?, or even pros in Ikeja, NO. Did I overpaid?. Was the amount Stoopid compare to Ikeja rates?. Hell yes, . Was it worthy?. Hell yes, because of the way I felt with her, and the way I stupidly went balls deep in that ass. But facts are facts. And facts don't change feelings. No matter how she made me feel, the FACT is, I still willingly went overboard, and that's what I meant, but that's not in any case the regular rate in Lagos. So, it's either you are willing to spend that much cash (no judgement), or you just don't know. . It was to disagree with the statement of someone who said: 5000 k is bottom rate, when you don't have much time in the phils. . #blowyourcash however on whoever#.Nothing wrong with this sir, I've done the same on several occasions. Allot of guys here just get some kind of rush for paying less or maybe less than everyone else. This contest is of no interest to me, I'm there to have fun and escape this pussy hell hole called the USA. I spend thousands of dollars on flight room and food, I'm certainly not going to quibble on a few bucks for a beauty half my age. Now that being said of course I won't overpay for the average encounter, say 4 k or 5 k is about the norm. Occasionally though I run into a real beauty, just smoking hot if you know what I mean. Had one awhile back wanted 8 k. Hmm ok as she was a beauty. How about no condom, no sorry I do not do that. How about 12 k no condom, no sorry. She leaves the coffee shop but about 30 minutes later,15 k sir and we can meet. Bit pricey yeah but it was glorious and I enjoyed every minute. I thought later you know what kind of dog 300 dollars would get me at home and I just smiled.
Bit pricey yeah but it was glorious and I enjoyed every minute. I thought later you know what kind of dog 300 dollars would get me at home and I just smiled.It's your money so you do what you want with it but I've never understood this justification. The $300 was spent in the Philippines so I would compare it to what it could have gotten there, not back home.
I'm constantly amazed by the number of poverty babes who peel off jeans and a T shirt or a $5 dress to reveal a bikini model underneath. Let's not even discuss their fun attitude vs the golden pussy girls' entitlement.
Again, no criticism of you or how you spent your money to get what you wanted. Just an observation of alternatives.
Enjoy. G.
What does that make someone who knows the value of everything but the price of nothing?Smart, if you know what I mean.
2 k to 3 k seems to be the going rate, 4 k if they are really hot. Got to haggle.
Funny night at LA cafe. So I go in there, blah blah blah, then this girl named "Irish" or maybe "Iris" who knows comes up to me. I buy her a drink, take her next door. We are vibing well. Won't shower with me, no big deal, she showers, I shower, we get in the bed, she is kissing my nipples, then all of a sudden she realizes we haven't negotiated price yet. I offer 3 k, she demands 4 k. We're at an impasse. Finally she decides to bounce. I was completely cool with it too. So we leave, go back to the bar, I pick up this tall 30 year old woman. Take her next door, don't have to pay the room again. This girl gives so some stellar head. But she won't let me rawdog her! No real loss, she was a true oral expert. So gentleman that I am I nut in her mouth and go on my merry way. She didn't negotiate price either, so I just gave her 3 k which she was fine with.
Then I checked LA cafe out again a few nights later at 3 am. Very depressing scene let me tell you. All aunties, some of them wouldn't take the fucking hint too. I don't even respond to them when they talk to me. I figure that's actually nicer then engaging in conversation when you are just going to send them away sooner or later.
Lurkers, just a bit of advice on treating the working ladies as we ply our trade in places like the PI. I have an old Navy buddy that I used to run the streets with a long time ago. He's divorced now and looking for another Pinay to ride it out with (as he says), so I hooked him up with one I had known from Tagged and a few visits with in Manila. They hit it off make plans for his trip there and he tells her if things look good, lets plan a trip to the US Embassy to start the paperwork. Obviously my "lady friend" is excited.
My buddy gets there she picks him up and they do the dance of the lost lovers for the first couple of days. Then I get texts from both that says "I've gone back home" (from her) and "she's not my type in person" (from him). Fair enough. However, my buddy didn't offer any tip. In his words he paid for the nights stay at the hotel and breakfasts and dinners and that was all he felt obligated to. She was upset because she has no money, used gas and other expenses to get there and feels like he went back on his words. Not going to get into the drama about her not liking him bragging about he has money and a big house back in the states, etc while she is your typical Pinay with nothing.
I say this to all the mongerers out there, treat them kindly. I get nothing like getting freebies, but if you meet up first time, and don't pay anything to me that's looks bad, especially if you are boasting on how much you have and making promises. Told my buddy we aren't young bulls anymore, we got 6 decades behind us and those days of being "Rico Suave" are long gone, and not a good thing to welch like that. But at least that's just how I see it.
I know it's all a big hustle and anything goes, but be nice fellows. Don't get taken advantage of out there, but at the same time don't take advantage. Leave the park clean enough for the rest of us!
Just my rant!
Lurkers, just a bit of advice on treating the working ladies as we ply our trade in places like the PI. I have an old Navy buddy that I used to run the streets with a long time ago. He's divorced now and looking for another Pinay to ride it out with (as he says), so I hooked him up with one I had known from Tagged and a few visits with in Manila. They hit it off make plans for his trip there and he tells her if things look good, lets plan a trip to the US Embassy to start the paperwork. Obviously my "lady friend" is excited.
My buddy gets there she picks him up and they do the dance of the lost lovers for the first couple of days. Then I get texts from both that says "I've gone back home" (from her) and "she's not my type in person" (from him). Fair enough. However, my buddy didn't offer any tip. In his words he paid for the nights stay at the hotel and breakfasts and dinners and that was all he felt obligated to. She was upset because she has no money, used gas and other expenses to get there and feels like he went back on his words. Not going to get into the drama about her not liking him bragging about he has money and a big house back in the states, etc while she is your typical Pinay with nothing.
I say this to all the mongerers out there, treat them kindly. I get nothing like getting freebies, but if you meet up first time, and don't pay anything to me that's looks bad, especially if you are boasting on how much you have and making promises. Told my buddy we aren't young bulls anymore, we got 6 decades behind us and those days of being "Rico Suave" are long gone, and not a good thing to welch like that. But at least that's just how I see it.
I know it's all a big hustle and anything goes, but be nice fellows. Don't get taken advantage of out there, but at the same time don't take advantage. Leave the park clean enough for the rest of us!
Just my rant!I haven't found too many upsides to giving out referrals. It's amazing the number of times normally nice guys and good friends go crazy the moment pussy is involved. Unfortunately this reflects badly on the referee as well.
I've never understood guys lying to pinas just to get laid. Guys are tripping over pussy as soon as they arrive so anyone who feels that they need to lie to attract girls must be off the charts insecure.
I'm sure it's actually counter productive. The more experienced girls have heard the BS stories and promises a thousand times. The know instinctively when they are being lied to. You would be surprised the number of times that I have been complimented for being honest and perceived roadblocks have been no impediment to her jumping in a taxi.
"I'm married, only in town for a few days and just looking to meet new people".
"Ok. We can still be friends. Where are you staying? Is a pretty common reply.
Enjoy. G.
Lurkers, just a bit of advice on treating the working ladies as we ply our trade in places like the PI. I have an old Navy buddy that I used to run the streets with a long time ago. He's divorced now and looking for another Pinay to ride it out with (as he says), so I hooked him up with one I had known from Tagged and a few visits with in Manila. They hit it off make plans for his trip there and he tells her if things look good, lets plan a trip to the US Embassy to start the paperwork. Obviously my "lady friend" is excited.
My buddy gets there she picks him up and they do the dance of the lost lovers for the first couple of days. Then I get texts from both that says "I've gone back home" (from her) and "she's not my type in person" (from him). Fair enough. However, my buddy didn't offer any tip. In his words he paid for the nights stay at the hotel and breakfasts and dinners and that was all he felt obligated to. She was upset because she has no money, used gas and other expenses to get there and feels like he went back on his words. Not going to get into the drama about her not liking him bragging about he has money and a big house back in the states, etc while she is your typical Pinay with nothing.
I say this to all the mongerers out there, treat them kindly. I get nothing like getting freebies, but if you meet up first time, and don't pay anything to me that's looks bad, especially if you are boasting on how much you have and making promises. Told my buddy we aren't young bulls anymore, we got 6 decades behind us and those days of being "Rico Suave" are long gone, and not a good thing to welch like that. But at least that's just how I see it.
I know it's all a big hustle and anything goes, but be nice fellows. Don't get taken advantage of out there, but at the same time don't take advantage. Leave the park clean enough for the rest of us!
Just my rant!I don't give out referrals either anymore. I have had them mistreat them, no tip or under pay and all that. "We got along so good that I thought she had a good time. No need to pay or tip her. She should pay me!" Fucking idiots. People have to eat here and pay rent and bills.
Some old fat dirty ass really believes the girl had a such great time with him and his dick was sooo good that she should pay him?
Lurkers, just a bit of advice on treating the working ladies as we ply our trade in places like the PI. I have an old Navy buddy that I used to run the streets with a long time ago. He's divorced now and looking for another Pinay to ride it out with (as he says), so I hooked him up with one I had known from Tagged and a few visits with in Manila. They hit it off make plans for his trip there and he tells her if things look good, lets plan a trip to the US Embassy to start the paperwork. Obviously my "lady friend" is excited.
My buddy gets there she picks him up and they do the dance of the lost lovers for the first couple of days. Then I get texts from both that says "I've gone back home" (from her) and "she's not my type in person" (from him). Fair enough. However, my buddy didn't offer any tip. In his words he paid for the nights stay at the hotel and breakfasts and dinners and that was all he felt obligated to. She was upset because she has no money, used gas and other expenses to get there and feels like he went back on his words. Not going to get into the drama about her not liking him bragging about he has money and a big house back in the states, etc while she is your typical Pinay with nothing.
I say this to all the mongerers out there, treat them kindly. I get nothing like getting freebies, but if you meet up first time, and don't pay anything to me that's looks bad, especially if you are boasting on how much you have and making promises. Told my buddy we aren't young bulls anymore, we got 6 decades behind us and those days of being "Rico Suave" are long gone, and not a good thing to welch like that. But at least that's just how I see it.
I know it's all a big hustle and anything goes, but be nice fellows. Don't get taken advantage of out there, but at the same time don't take advantage. Leave the park clean enough for the rest of us!
Just my rant!Sorry man. Don't agree with you. In my opinion she was a hoe that wanted to be a good girl, and wanted the advantages of both. Can't both be a good girl and considered for a long term relationship AND get paid. Sorry doesn't work like that. The cake don't come with a fork.
If you're dating a girl, you're dating her. If you got a hoe you pay her. Lines are clear, this girl wanted to blur the lines. I think we're all much better off when the lines are clear.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gHqqNPLRF4
Great video on problems in a few months with moved in girlfriend.
Locamotive
03-24-25, 23:20
Sorry man. Don't agree with you. In my opinion she was a hoe that wanted to be a good girl, and wanted the advantages of both. Can't both be a good girl and considered for a long term relationship AND get paid. Sorry doesn't work like that. The cake don't come with a fork.
If you're dating a girl, you're dating her. If you got a hoe you pay her. Lines are clear, this girl wanted to blur the lines. I think we're all much better off when the lines are clear.They were not dating, he came in for a hookup, they all start that way where it goes from there it goes. Can't go along with that, then why didn't he pay her. Sounds like they did the love dance, did he think that was on the house. A few meals and a hotel he thinks is the price of pussy, he is sadly mistaken. My advice to him stay home and away from Asia. Its a good example how the "Cheap Charlie" name got started in the first place. Here's a news flash to those who think you are Gods gift to women. "Pussy aint free". Girlfriend, wife, bar pickup up or set up like here. I've been the world over and if any of you gents know a free pussy location please educate the rest of us. Got a buddy in US just had 3 dates with a chick and he got a peck on the cheek, and she was nothing like the young beauties in the PHP. Maybe he didn't like the product, fine you pay her anyway. I've had many barfines over the years that were duds, but I paid anyway. Its called being a gentleman, that small amount of money means nothing to us. Give her couple hundred bucks pat her on the bottom and just say sorry no connection here. This is the long run can pay off as they will often recommend a friend or two. I hate hearing stories like this but I know it still happens. Sorry Drbombay hope this does not reflect badly on you.
Locamotive
03-24-25, 23:36
It's your money so you do what you want with it but I've never understood this justification. The $300 was spent in the Philippines so I would compare it to what it could have gotten there, not back home.
I'm constantly amazed by the number of poverty babes who peel off jeans and a T shirt or a $5 dress to reveal a bikini model underneath. Let's not even discuss their fun attitude vs the golden pussy girls' entitlement.
Again, no criticism of you or how you spent your money to get what you wanted. Just an observation of alternatives.
Enjoy. G.I know what 300 dollars got me, a hot girl I rarely see. Smokin is a better word, and she was GFE on another level and stayed until noon with many repeats. Now do I do this often, of course not, but occasionally its not going to put me in the poor house. I get it some guys will spend enormous amount to get there plus room and board and reject a girl over 20 bucks!! This to me is insane and a justification I do not understand and probably never will.
Old And Ugly
03-25-25, 01:39
Sorry man. Don't agree with you. In my opinion she was a hoe that wanted to be a good girl, and wanted the advantages of both. Can't both be a good girl and considered for a long term relationship AND get paid. Sorry doesn't work like that. The cake don't come with a fork.
If you're dating a girl, you're dating her. If you got a hoe you pay her. Lines are clear, this girl wanted to blur the lines. I think we're all much better off when the lines are clear.Probably she was referring to her expenses, not necessarily on getting some dough of his friend, life is harsh for the natives, and the budget is all planed to the last dime. I always have that in mind, even when I'm in the right, and the girl that shows up is not looking like the one in the pic, and I send her back home, I give her trike money, also keeping in mind that's not good to create enemies in a foreign land.
Sorry man. Don't agree with you. In my opinion she was a hoe that wanted to be a good girl, and wanted the advantages of both. Can't both be a good girl and considered for a long term relationship AND get paid. Sorry doesn't work like that. The cake don't come with a fork.
If you're dating a girl, you're dating her. If you got a hoe you pay her. Lines are clear, this girl wanted to blur the lines. I think we're all much better off when the lines are clear.To some extent that is true. I know of her other "friends" and she was looking to cash in. Playing the field they call it in betting. But still, I'm more upset at my buddy for knowing the game but totally not respecting it. But, to each their own.
I know what 300 dollars got me, a hot girl I rarely see. Smokin is a better word, and she was GFE on another level and stayed until noon with many repeats. Now do I do this often, of course not, but occasionally its not going to put me in the poor house. I get it some guys will spend enormous amount to get there plus room and board and reject a girl over 20 bucks!! This to me is insane and a justification I do not understand and probably never will.$300 is 17,000 PHP. That's the monthly full time salary of someone working in a mall, and you just randomly gave it to a girl for one night because, *checks notes*, she's hot?
News flash, Philippines is full of hot girls that you don't have to spend 17 k pesos on LOL. Sure, absolutely pay her the going rate, the going rate for a hot girl overnight in Manila is anything from 5-10 k pesos depending on where you got her from and your negotiating skills. Some girls will even be happy with 3 k but that's more ST rates these days.
And yes, we know it's cheaper than NY / LA / Vegas / Miami etc. Guess what, we aren't in those places and neither are these girls. But with the way the spending is these days, it won't be long before Manila girls might as well be Miami ones cost wise.
I haven't found too many upsides to giving out referrals. It's amazing the number of times normally nice guys and good friends go crazy the moment pussy is involved. Unfortunately this reflects badly on the referee as well.
I've never understood guys lying to pinas just to get laid. Guys are tripping over pussy as soon as they arrive so anyone who feels that they need to lie to attract girls must be off the charts insecure.
I'm sure it's actually counter productive. The more experienced girls have heard the BS stories and promises a thousand times. The know instinctively when they are being lied to. You would be surprised the number of times that I have been complimented for being honest and perceived roadblocks have been no impediment to her jumping in a taxi.
"I'm married, only in town for a few days and just looking to meet new people".
"Ok. We can still be friends. Where are you staying? Is a pretty common reply.
Enjoy. G.I tell them upfront, I'm not leaving home but I can be around to pay for play and not need to go out all night. Some take up that offer some don't. My buddy still thinks we are in our 30's running the streets of San Diego and the Trophy Lounge! Time to move on. But if he feels he can still get them to give it to him for free more power to him. Just not my method anymore.
They were not dating, he came in for a hookup, they all start that way where it goes from there it goes. Can't go along with that, then why didn't he pay her. Sounds like they did the love dance, did he think that was on the house. A few meals and a hotel he thinks is the price of pussy, he is sadly mistaken. My advice to him stay home and away from Asia. Its a good example how the "Cheap Charlie" name got started in the first place. Here's a news flash to those who think you are Gods gift to women. "Pussy aint free". Girlfriend, wife, bar pickup up or set up like here. I've been the world over and if any of you gents know a free pussy location please educate the rest of us. Got a buddy in US just had 3 dates with a chick and he got a peck on the cheek, and she was nothing like the young beauties in the PHP. Maybe he didn't like the product, fine you pay her anyway. I've had many barfines over the years that were duds, but I paid anyway. Its called being a gentleman, that small amount of money means nothing to us. Give her couple hundred bucks pat her on the bottom and just say sorry no connection here. This is the long run can pay off as they will often recommend a friend or two. I hate hearing stories like this but I know it still happens. Sorry Drbombay hope this does not reflect badly on you.
I assumed they were both in it to date. The term "ride it out with" gave me that impression. I wouldn't "ride it out with" a hooker. If she just wanted travel expenses. Yea the guy should have coughed up the dough. Agree there. thats nothing. If she wanted to get paid for sex. Thats a no no in my book.
I know what 300 dollars got me, a hot girl I rarely see. Smokin is a better word, and she was GFE on another level and stayed until noon with many repeats. Now do I do this often, of course not, but occasionally its not going to put me in the poor house. I get it some guys will spend enormous amount to get there plus room and board and reject a girl over 20 bucks!! This to me is insane and a justification I do not understand and probably never will.I agree with you and it is none of my business nor anyone else's what you do with your money and your dick. A few times the girl was so hot and slutty that I had to have her. I paid above the union wage with no regrets. My money my dick.
MohdirFan82
03-25-25, 23:23
Few months ago, I contacted really cute girl off Pina love. She wasn't 10 by any means but she was solid 8.
After exchanging WhatsApp numbers, I asked her to come over.
She said sure, before she comes over I asked her what is for ST. She said 20,000 Pesos, I thought she is kidding but no.
I wasn't going to take her anyway but I offered her 10,000 peso she still said no. So I said forget it.
Few weeks later I contacted her again just to make sure she dident lose her mind, again she said 20,000 peso.
I wasn't curious and asked her, does people really pay 20,000 ? She said " I don't get many people but I do get atleast 2 or 3 a week".
Every girl has her stretgey but I will never pay anything more then 70 $ max. 8 or not.
I know what 300 dollars got me, a hot girl I rarely see. Smokin is a better word, and she was GFE on another level and stayed until noon with many repeats. Now do I do this often, of course not, but occasionally its not going to put me in the poor house. I get it some guys will spend enormous amount to get there plus room and board and reject a girl over 20 bucks!! This to me is insane and a justification I do not understand and probably never will.
Locamotive
03-26-25, 03:01
Few months ago, I contacted really cute girl off Pina love. She wasn't 10 by any means but she was solid 8.
After exchanging WhatsApp numbers, I asked her to come over.
She said sure, before she comes over I asked her what is for ST. She said 20,000 Pesos, I thought she is kidding but no.
I wasn't going to take her anyway but I offered her 10,000 peso she still said no. So I said forget it.
Few weeks later I contacted her again just to make sure she dident lose her mind, again she said 20,000 peso.
I wasn't curious and asked her, does people really pay 20,000 ? She said " I don't get many people but I do get atleast 2 or 3 a week".
Every girl has her stretgey but I will never pay anything more then 70 $ max. 8 or not.Well 20 k is just ridiculous. The 15 k I paid was high but she was exceptional, but 20 k?. Nah that's a bit much. She must have thought she was a 10. But I talk to some girls in bars and occasionally they do have someone take them to a beach somewhere and gives them 20 or 25 k a day. These guys are few and far in-between where money is just no object. Good for them and the girls who can get it.
Locamotive
03-26-25, 03:19
$300 is 17,000 PHP. That's the monthly full time salary of someone working in a mall, and you just randomly gave it to a girl for one night because, *checks notes*, she's hot?
News flash, Philippines is full of hot girls that you don't have to spend 17 k pesos on LOL. Sure, absolutely pay her the going rate, the going rate for a hot girl overnight in Manila is anything from 5-10 k pesos depending on where you got her from and your negotiating skills. Some girls will even be happy with 3 k but that's more ST rates these days.
And yes, we know it's cheaper than NY / LA / Vegas / Miami etc. Guess what, we aren't in those places and neither are these girls. But with the way the spending is these days, it won't be long before Manila girls might as well be Miami ones cost wise.Sorry I've been coming here 15 years, none were that hot. Oh and talent was off the charts, her deep throat her nose was on my belly and this I've never experienced in 15 years. It was like a porn movie. To each his own, one mans 10 is another 5. I've seen this often, beauty is in the eye of the beholder I guess but this one could have been in a Miss Universe contest.
Few weeks later I contacted her again just to make sure she dident lose her mind, again she said 20,000 peso.
I wasn't curious and asked her, does people really pay 20,000 ? She said " I don't get many people but I do get atleast 2 or 3 a week".
Every girl has her stretgey but I will never pay anything more then 70 $ max. 8 or not.I've had several girls immediately stop talking to me when they realised that I wasn't fresh off the plane gullible. One actually apologised for wasting my time, saying that she thought we were a bunch of tourists, then ran of to find new prey.
Old And Ugly
03-26-25, 06:08
I started writing as part of the previous conversations, but it became kind of a long dissertation, so I posted it in the stupid shit thread:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4055-Stupid-Shit-in-the-Philippines&p=2992656#post2992656.
What is 20 k pesos? 350 usd? I can believe it if she's hot. Theres plenty of tourists who think, oh, I pay 500 back home just to get a blowjob in the back room of a strip club. This is a steal. I hope she enjoys it. That 20 k number only goes down with age. Mind sharing her pinalove profile? Would like to see what kind of girl thinks she deserves 20 k.
Few months ago, I contacted really cute girl off Pina love. She wasn't 10 by any means but she was solid 8.
After exchanging WhatsApp numbers, I asked her to come over.
She said sure, before she comes over I asked her what is for ST. She said 20,000 Pesos, I thought she is kidding but no.
I wasn't going to take her anyway but I offered her 10,000 peso she still said no. So I said forget it.
Few weeks later I contacted her again just to make sure she dident lose her mind, again she said 20,000 peso.
I wasn't curious and asked her, does people really pay 20,000 ? She said " I don't get many people but I do get atleast 2 or 3 a week".
Every girl has her stretgey but I will never pay anything more then 70 $ max. 8 or not.
Mind sharing her pinalove profile? Would like to see what kind of girl thinks she deserves 20 k.I'm not surprised by Modir's 8/10 rating. Over the years I've had a few girls give ridiculous quotes and stand by them. Strangely, none of them were true stunners. I also know of quite a few girls earning serious money on the Dubai circuit. Again, sure they are pretty but no stunners. Many have resorted to surgery to enhance their looks.
The few truly gorgeous seem to know the benefit of locking down a wealthy and generous guy for a continuous and longer term score. I don't know any doing hourly tricks. I'm sure there are exceptions but that's just my experience.
Of course what an 8 can do with a sexy dress and good makeup is a whole other discussion.
Enjoy. G.
Theres plenty of tourists who think, oh, I pay 500 back home just to get a blowjob in the back room of a strip club. This is a stealThere are also many girls earning dollars or dirham and not so keen to go back to earning peso or baht.
G.
WestCoast1
03-28-25, 02:01
Itty Bitty T*tty Committee big city scrawny. Quality hotels everywhere will be carrying ISG TV.
Locamotive
03-28-25, 21:21
I assumed they were both in it to date. The term "ride it out with" gave me that impression. I wouldn't "ride it out with" a hooker. If she just wanted travel expenses. Yea the guy should have coughed up the dough. Agree there. thats nothing. If she wanted to get paid for sex. Thats a no no in my book.A line Hookers use "hey honey you want a date"Its always about pussy and money and has been since the beginning of time. You are paying for it one way or another, as I keep saying pussy aint free. Its either a cash transaction or house, car, jewelry or whatever. Cute women do not hook up with homeless guys, hmm wonder why that is? Pussy which they have equals money toys and prizes, always has always will. You hook up with any women on earth she expects something other than your wonderful personality, or your special dick as she can get those all day long. Don't believe me cut off any girlfriend wife or dating relationship, see whet happens. She may hang around a bit, but eventually she will be gone unless you are some kind of Giglio or she is rich already. A exception would be a old or ugly or fat women may keep you up but I doubt most men are looking for that.
Transporter
03-28-25, 22:03
Itty Bitty T*tty Committee big city scrawny. Quality hotels everywhere will be carrying ISG TV.Well. In general (you all know what in general means) thinner girls have smaller boobs and I've been a member of that club since the 80's. Of course just because I am a card carrying member of the club it does not mean I only seek club members. Damn I miss China where you could find skinny girls with big hoohoos hand over fist. Anyway to us card carrying members, the skinny girls with the big tops are called mutants, and although they are also available, too much drama for me, I rather just pay those girls every now and then.
MrBeast2020
03-29-25, 16:41
Hi Gents, I was wondering do we have any equivalent or similar to what Fiwfans (RIP) was for Bangkok in Manila? I am primarily looking for a trustworthy website which can be used to book girls be it incall or outcall.
Hi Gents, I was wondering do we have any equivalent or similar to what Fiwfans (RIP) was for Bangkok in Manila? I am primarily looking for a trustworthy website which can be used to book girls be it incall or outcall.Have you checked smooci dot com? I have used it. The review system is what keeps it valuable.
WestCoast1
03-29-25, 17:11
Hi Gents, I was wondering do we have any equivalent or similar to what Fiwfans (RIP) was for Bangkok in Manila? I am primarily looking for a trustworthy website which can be used to book girls be it incall or outcall.Also Manila Courtesans:
https://manilacourtesans.com/
Mosquito2002
03-30-25, 10:57
Hi Gents, I was wondering do we have any equivalent or similar to what Fiwfans (RIP) was for Bangkok in Manila? I am primarily looking for a trustworthy website which can be used to book girls be it incall or outcall.They did a spelling change, basically the same site. However, it's just getting started and not many providers and not all the locations FIWFAN provided are currently available.
https://fwfans.com/
WestCoast1
03-30-25, 13:36
They did a spelling change, basically the same site. However, it's just getting started and not many providers and not all the locations FIWFAN provided are currently available.
https://fwfans.com/The site is in Thai.
WestCoast1
03-30-25, 13:36
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A line Hookers use "hey honey you want a date"Its always about pussy and money and has been since the beginning of time. You are paying for it one way or another, as I keep saying pussy aint free. Its either a cash transaction or house, car, jewelry or whatever. Cute women do not hook up with homeless guys, hmm wonder why that is? Pussy which they have equals money toys and prizes, always has always will. You hook up with any women on earth she expects something other than your wonderful personality, or your special dick as she can get those all day long. Don't believe me cut off any girlfriend wife or dating relationship, see whet happens. She may hang around a bit, but eventually she will be gone unless you are some kind of Giglio or she is rich already. A exception would be a old or ugly or fat women may keep you up but I doubt most men are looking for that.I don't disagree. But there is a game to be played. If you want the bigger prize of a "girlfriend" title or even marraige, you can't be charging me directly for sex. Sorry. That's what prostitutes do, and I can get that elsewhere. Girlfriends cost a shitload more in "other fees" and are a pain in the ass. Hit the curb if you ask me for cash after sex.
I may be in love! Met up with Lianne from MC. She was STUNNING. The photos on the website are the same girl. Sure, they are air brushed to remove a bit of acne. But this girl has a fantastic body and is great in bed. Speaks PERFECT English. Tits are more of a "be" than the "A" cup listed. And she is so sweet. Fucked her on the bed. In a chair. On my desk. All BB (I know, I know!) Also sucked cock like a champ. She is a little expensive. But when you factor in bar fine. Cheaper than a mediocre girl from P Burgos St! Got her number. Will definitely repeat if I ever make it back to Manila. No pictures taken as they are on the website.
Overall my experiences with MC have been great. And you can "reserve" a girl by proving Name and Hotel info. What a country!
Also banged a girl from the (new) Firehouse Lounge just below / beside Filling Station Diner. She was a waitress. Goes by "Jackie". Got her number and she came over next day for a few hours of sex. Paid her 5000. She seemed very happy. This girl can really suck cock. And I banged her hard. Also BB. (What is WRONG with me! Took video too. Had her a second time when I passed back through Manila on the way home. Attaching a few pictures. One she sent me before coming to my place. She looks good in the morning! The other is a close up of those sock cucking lips! And the last on is her smiling as she looks at my cock before resuming the BBBJ!
Spent a little time in bars on P Burgos, but never saw anything that made me want to spend 9000 (incl BF). Only 1 girl who was standing on P Burgos soliciting for one of the bars. She was DAMN CUTE but may also have been underage.
I just looked at the manila courtesans website. None of them look "stunning" beautiful to me. More like stunningly average. These girls are a dime a dozen on the streets on Manila. You can't walk a block without bumping into someone that looks like these girls. I'm glad you were happy with your purchase. But these are just average girls with nice fotos. Manlia courtesans has its place, which is why its been around for a while. But for anyone whose not just stopping over for a few days, there are better options.
I may be in love! Met up with Lianne from MC. She was STUNNING. The photos on the website are the same girl. Sure, they are air brushed to remove a bit of acne. But this girl has a fantastic body and is great in bed. Speaks PERFECT English. Tits are more of a "be" than the "A" cup listed. And she is so sweet. Fucked her on the bed. In a chair. On my desk. All BB (I know, I know!) Also sucked cock like a champ. She is a little expensive. But when you factor in bar fine. Cheaper than a mediocre girl from P Burgos St! Got her number. Will definitely repeat if I ever make it back to Manila. No pictures taken as they are on the website.
Overall my experiences with MC have been great. And you can "reserve" a girl by proving Name and Hotel info. What a country!
Also banged a girl from the (new) Firehouse Lounge just below / beside Filling Station Diner. She was a waitress. Goes by "Jackie". Got her number and she came over next day for a few hours of sex. Paid her 5000. She seemed very happy. This girl can really suck cock. And I banged her hard. Also BB. (What is WRONG with me! Took video too. Had her a second time when I passed back through Manila on the way home. Attaching a few pictures. One she sent me before coming to my place. She looks good in the morning! The other is a close up of those sock cucking lips! And the last on is her smiling as she looks at my cock before resuming the BBBJ!
Spent a little time in bars on P Burgos, but never saw anything that made me want to spend 9000 (incl BF). Only 1 girl who was standing on P Burgos soliciting for one of the bars. She was DAMN CUTE but may also have been underage.
Locamotive
03-30-25, 20:25
I may be in love! Met up with Lianne from MC. She was STUNNING. The photos on the website are the same girl. Sure, they are air brushed to remove a bit of acne. But this girl has a fantastic body and is great in bed. Speaks PERFECT English. Tits are more of a "be" than the "A" cup listed. And she is so sweet. Fucked her on the bed. In a chair. On my desk. All BB (I know, I know!) Also sucked cock like a champ. She is a little expensive. But when you factor in bar fine. Cheaper than a mediocre girl from P Burgos St! Got her number. Will definitely repeat if I ever make it back to Manila. No pictures taken as they are on the website.
Overall my experiences with MC have been great. And you can "reserve" a girl by proving Name and Hotel info. What a country!
Also banged a girl from the (new) Firehouse Lounge just below / beside Filling Station Diner. She was a waitress. Goes by "Jackie". Got her number and she came over next day for a few hours of sex. Paid her 5000. She seemed very happy. This girl can really suck cock. And I banged her hard. Also BB. (What is WRONG with me! Took video too. Had her a second time when I passed back through Manila on the way home. Attaching a few pictures. One she sent me before coming to my place. She looks good in the morning! The other is a close up of those sock cucking lips! And the last on is her smiling as she looks at my cock before resuming the BBBJ!
Spent a little time in bars on P Burgos, but never saw anything that made me want to spend 9000 (incl BF). Only 1 girl who was standing on P Burgos soliciting for one of the bars. She was DAMN CUTE but may also have been underage.Nice. Those lips are yummy I can only imagine!
Locamotive
03-30-25, 20:36
I don't disagree. But there is a game to be played. If you want the bigger prize of a "girlfriend" title or even marraige, you can't be charging me directly for sex. Sorry. That's what prostitutes do, and I can get that elsewhere. Girlfriends cost a shitload more in "other fees" and are a pain in the ass. Hit the curb if you ask me for cash after sex.Hehehe a girlfriend no it won't be cash, their not stupid, it will be shoes, cloths, car, jewelry, hair salon, nails, expensive meals,rent, power, her credits cards are overdue, etc. Etc. They are still prostitutes' just doing it in a round about way. Been there, Ill take a Hooker any day of the week.
Mosquito2002
03-31-25, 02:01
I just looked at the manila courtesans website. None of them look "stunning" beautiful to me. More like stunningly average. These girls are a dime a dozen on the streets on Manila. You can't walk a block without bumping into someone that looks like these girls. I'm glad you were happy with your purchase. But these are just average girls with nice fotos. Manlia courtesans has its place, which is why its been around for a while. But for anyone whose not just stopping over for a few days, there are better options.Definitely, NO spinners on the site currently. Way to much Jollibee's.
Hey,
why'all. Newbie monger here making an unexpected last-minute business trip to Manila on Wednesday.
My question is mainly centered on safe sex / vaccine prevention / needs. Due to work obligations, I will have very little free time to peruse dating apps and chit chat, and certainly no time to hit up the bars / nightlife. My plan of attack is simply to use ManilaCourtesans (or any other app ya'll recommend) for quick / easy hookups straight to my room with no frills.
I'll be able to get PRep / DoxyPEP before I leave next week, but how big of a risk / concern is Hep A / Hep be when going through an escort service like Manila Courtesans? I would like to assume that most of the girls through this service are regularly tested / safe. But who knows? I love to go down on girls and DATY / DATO. Obviously I won't have time to get the full Hep schedule, but is it worth going out of my way to at least get the first dose?
Anything else I should be on top of / aware of?
Hey,
why'all. Newbie monger here making an unexpected last-minute business trip to Manila on Wednesday.
My question is mainly centered on safe sex / vaccine prevention / needs. Due to work obligations, I will have very little free time to peruse dating apps and chit chat, and certainly no time to hit up the bars / nightlife. My plan of attack is simply to use ManilaCourtesans (or any other app ya'll recommend) for quick / easy hookups straight to my room with no frills.
I'll be able to get PRep / DoxyPEP before I leave next week, but how big of a risk / concern is Hep A / Hep be when going through an escort service like Manila Courtesans? I would like to assume that most of the girls through this service are regularly tested / safe. But who knows? I love to go down on girls and DATY / DATO. Obviously I won't have time to get the full Hep schedule, but is it worth going out of my way to at least get the first dose?
Anything else I should be on top of / aware of?You don't mention what are the ramifications? The inconvenience week of a few tablets and a jab in the arse or very serious conversation with mom and the kids?
I'd suggest you stand back and take an objective look at the question you are asking: should you take precautions for fucking full time prostitutes bareback; prostitutes who fuck many guys every week and are known for not requiring condoms?
The big head says of course you should take precautions.
The small head says roll the dice and take your chances.
Enjoy. G.
Old And Ugly
04-03-25, 05:09
Hey,
why'all. Newbie monger here making an unexpected last-minute business trip to Manila on Wednesday.
My question is mainly centered on safe sex / vaccine prevention / needs. Due to work obligations, I will have very little free time to peruse dating apps and chit chat, and certainly no time to hit up the bars / nightlife. My plan of attack is simply to use ManilaCourtesans (or any other app ya'll recommend) for quick / easy hookups straight to my room with no frills.
I'll be able to get PRep / DoxyPEP before I leave next week, but how big of a risk / concern is Hep A / Hep be when going through an escort service like Manila Courtesans? I would like to assume that most of the girls through this service are regularly tested / safe. But who knows? I love to go down on girls and DATY / DATO. Obviously I won't have time to get the full Hep schedule, but is it worth going out of my way to at least get the first dose?
Anything else I should be on top of / aware of?If you're married, use condoms. Nobody gets tested for anything in PH.
If you're married, use condoms. Nobody gets tested for anything in PH.Thanks. Definitely plan to use wrap up for sure. Mostly concerned about Hep be possibilities, really enjoy DATY and DATO on a girl. But wondering if why'all do that or is it too risky?
I just looked at the manila courtesans website. None of them look "stunning" beautiful to me. More like stunningly average. These girls are a dime a dozen on the streets on Manila. You can't walk a block without bumping into someone that looks like these girls. I'm glad you were happy with your purchase. But these are just average girls with nice fotos. Manlia courtesans has its place, which is why its been around for a while. But for anyone whose not just stopping over for a few days, there are better options.Agree most of the girls are average.
Disagree that Lianne is average!
You didn't specifically address her, so I can only assume you just browsed MC in general.
Interested to hear what others think of LIANNE specifically. And InWAS just stopping over for a few days. And was working remote on US schedule. Which made MC perfect!
Transporter
04-04-25, 08:56
MC has a time and a place. They have girls (chat with the operator, they have a lot on call, just tell her exactly what you want, and she can recommend / find someone for you) not all will be listed online. They have dedicated drivers, and the girls show up on time (more or less). So far it is the only service I know you can count on in a pinch (small window). The rates are comparable to not putting in a lot of time, and the service is standard, so you will get what is listed. Granted the pics have filters and have been touched up, but so is almost every pic online. You can have a girl to your room within an hour instead of spending half a day online. Maybe you miss out on the GFE, but it is what it is.
Old And Ugly
04-04-25, 11:27
Thanks. Definitely plan to use wrap up for sure. Mostly concerned about Hep be possibilities, really enjoy DATY and DATO on a girl. But wondering if why'all do that or is it too risky?I think crossing the street is a lot riskier, but you'll have to draw your own limits and lines that you're not going to cross. When I was married, I always used condoms for intercourse with others, and not worried about oral in any way, it's rare to catch something with your mouth, or from her mouth, but still possible. Don't get drunk, and go down on them first, so you can check the situation first hand, if it doesn't smell good, stay away from it, better lose some money, or have a blowjob only than get sick. In my entire mongering career I only got sick once, and it was in the PH from a girl that didn't had any symptoms (she was the only one for about 2 weeks), because I was lazy, after sex, I always wash and pee, that takes care of whatever patogens try to enter my body via the urethra, did that procedure since I was a teenager, and it never failed.
If you're married, use condoms......If you're not married it does not matter whether you get an STD or not.
WestCoast1
04-04-25, 16:13
If you're married, use condoms. Nobody gets tested for anything in PH.
If you're not married it does not matter whether you get an STD or not.I'm not married. It might not matter to you if I get an STD or not. But it might matter to me.
Old And Ugly
04-04-25, 18:14
I'm not married. It might not matter to you if I get an STD or not. But it might matter to me.There is your answer: use condoms.
If you're not married it does not matter whether you get an STD or not.I am not married. It does matter because it will knock you out of action for week. A week does matter if you are only here for 2 weeks.
WestCoast1
04-05-25, 17:19
I am not married. It does matter because it will knock you out of action for week. A week does matter if you are only here for 2 weeks.Doesn't matter.
Old And Ugly
04-05-25, 18:34
It matters if you're married or not, because you will use it for different purposes. I married, you don't want to bring something home that will get you a divorce. If not married, then all you have to worry about is the risks that you expose yourself to, and if is worth it or not. It's not something that you'll do because somebody tells you is ok to do it one way or another.
Lately I only go bare, but if I decide that the risk is not worth taking, because "something is fishy", I rather lose the money, or get only a BJ, anyway I would not enjoy it if I know that she's sick, or doesn't have good hygiene.
Hey Seniors. New to Philippines & by what I read on this forum, Pina is a great way of finding girls. Just wanted to check how much do you normally pay for a pina girl?
Hey Seniors. New to Philippines & by what I read on this forum, Pina is a great way of finding girls. Just wanted to check how much do you normally pay for a pina girl?Depends on the girl, and time. Around 3-4 K.
I recently went to Manila and I tried a couple of different things. Instead of finding a hotel, found a airbnb in BGC area. It was close to Hyatt and near Landers. Fabulous place. Condo owner was very accomodating. I sent them names during the day and they would be registered for guests to come at any point. The only problem was that I couldn't take a girl to my apartment if I wanted to. This was okay for me. If I liked a girl for a repeat, it was going to be worth registering. Else, I did not have to bother.
BGC has a few pubs. One of them worth mentioning is Xylo. The place gets crowded after 11 PM. May FLs hanging outside the place. Its very easy for anyone to ask them to acome along to the pub and go home. Entry to the pub is 1500 pesos. The girls who were waiting outside for company looked a bit classy. Not sure how they are in bed. Definitely a bit classy how they walked and behaved. For mongers in that area, this is probably a good spot.
My flight arrived early in the day. As everyone advised, simply took Grab from NAIA and headed to BGC. The condo was clean and nice. Took a shower, and headed out for breakfast. BGC is buzzing with activity and crowded. This place was like US. Had some good coffee. Had to take care of some business after breakfast. When I was at work, pinged a girl whom I knew from my last trip. When I left work after lunch, she was pinging me asking for my program. She was happy to visit me with her friends in the condo. Gave me their full names which was sent to my landlord. Went to my room and crashed. I woke up around 9:00PM and 2 girls were going to show up. One of them was 21 and her friend was 19. They came over by 9:30 PM or so. We ordered dinner. In the meantime, we went to a nearby 7-11 and bought snacks, beer, and some drinks. It was fun to be in an apartment with 2 girls. We had some youtube music on. After food, we started drinking slowly and it was absolute fun. We were probably mostly naked teasing, cuddling, kissing etc. It was half decent 3 some, with both girls with me. They gave me good BJ and touched all pleasure points. We had a good session with 3 rounds. The younger girl did not know how to make moves or kiss or cuddle. I had to guide her. Over all amazing session. Both of them left around 4:30 AM. I paid for their cab, food and 4 K each.
Went to bed around 5 AM for a short nap. By 8 AM, I had to wake up to meet with some business folks for some real estate discussions. There was an office girl who was helping us with paper work and soft copies of things that were getting mailed out. After that discussion, she accompanied me to the car park and asked my days program, and wanted me to message her if I needed help. I completely forgot and went about my other discussions in another building in BGC. Around 1 PM, got a message from the office girl on what I am doing for lunch. I said I had not planned. She wanted to know whether she could suggest some places. I was dumb. I did not realize that she was hitting on me. She suggested soem places and said she had not had food in any of the places. I invited her to join me for lunch. As a standard filipina trick, she said she did not want to disturb me yada yada. I said come over. We had lunch. She said, she was open to visiting me at my condo after work to check on me. This is when it stuck me. I immediately asked for her full name and had it registered. Went to my room and tried to catchup on my sleep. She came over at 7 PM. I told her that I was jet lagged. I slept as she made herself comfortable watching youtube. I heard a shower sound when I was asleep. Not sure after how long, I felt a cold hand hugging me under my blanket. You all know where and how this ends up. After a passionate session, I took a shower, ordered dinner. She said, she had to leave by 11 PM. We had a hurried BJ. She was petite and a 7 in my book -- be cups well rounded, natural, 22 years and her first job out of college. Very passionate kisses and BJs. I asked her whether she needs some money and she said "up to you". I gave her 4 K including cab and she was glad to leave. She wanted to meet me again. However, she was nosy. She wanted to know how many girls would I be seeing etc etc. I did not like it. Heck, I have never been questioned like this by ex too. More to come.
Depends on the girl, and time. Around 3-4 K.Thanks mate for your response. This is helpful. I am looking for someone who can stay overnight, as I don't like rushing things.
Hey Seniors. New to Philippines & by what I read on this forum, Pina is a great way of finding girls. Just wanted to check how much do you normally pay for a pina girl?Hi Pag,
Last month it was 2000 p plus a 1000 p tip when she provided a wake-up session.
Very similar to what KB suggested.
(Feeding them also helps to drop the rate).
It always depends on the situation though.
I'm new to Pina and used it as last resort, because it can take up a lot of your time, but it has been helpful.
Take previous advice from other guys on the forum how to work it to your advantage.
I went into it upfront saying I only wanted some short time fun and just deleted a lot of the messages as soon as they arrived.
Generally the ones who want to chat to you off Pina and prefer Whatsapp are the ones to go for.
They're usually hunting for paid work.
Just dismiss the ones who expect bar girl rates and don't feel guilty about giving them 'the flick'.
We're all playing the same game.
_ Phil.
Thanks mate for your response. This is helpful. I am looking for someone who can stay overnight, as I don't like rushing things.In Manila, 4 K is a good starting point for LT / overnight.
Things that make it cheaper: her age; her looks; repeat sessions / multiday stays; you're attitude / if she actually wants to stay; her being a Tondo village girl vs a Makati princess.
Things that make it more expensive: her having golden pussy syndrome; your wallet being your only attractive feature; believe it or not having a really nice apartment and splashing the cash can put the price up rather than be an attractant and lead to a discount; the biggest of all is have gullible newbie stamped on your forehead.
In all cases, add / subtract P500 per item or P1000 per location premium (Manila / Cebu. Regional city. Small town).
Of course, you could also leave the slide rule at home and just make contact and see what happens. Pinas are full of surprises.
Enjoy. G.
In Manila, 4 K is a good starting point for LT / overnight.
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.. believe it or not having a really nice apartment and splashing the cash can put the price up rather than be an attractant and lead to a discount; the biggest of all is have gullible newbie stamped on your forehead.
In all cases, add / subtract P500 per item or P1000 per location premium (Manila / Cebu. Regional city. Small town).
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Enjoy. G.Agree with everything G says. I spent time in an apartment this time, and it was definitely an attraction. Flaunting Airbnb pics definitely attracts. It does move the cost up by 500 pesos or so. I was in the 4 K range all along. I was not looking for the cheapest shot. I was looking for pleasure with no rush, and pinays surprise you. If the apartment is clean with nice bathrooms, they treat you better.
All bar girls gossip. They may be friends but are ready to lie for your money. They use you as a center point of their drama plot and its crazy. My $0. 02.
All bar girls gossip. They may be friends but are ready to lie for your money. They use you as a center point of their drama plot and its crazy. My $0. 02.Mate, they're ruthless.
And I can understand that, as they're only after cash in the bigger scheme of things and coming from a poor background.
They're just not great at lying, or sending pics of their sick kids (which aren't theirs), of them suffering in pain (staged photos) or pregnancy demands ("Hang on, I was there two months later?
We're dealing with hookers here.
I still meet guys today who fall in love with 'working' girls, and generally they're first timers.
They'll work it out eventually.
I don't even bother to advise them of the potential outcome anymore as they don't want to know about it, and they can't comprehend that following their two week mission, there will be someone else's hot dog in the girl's bun.
_ Phil.
ArmnHammer69
04-14-25, 17:46
Worst experience ever leaving phillipines in the morning. Went to iron horse tonight in Burgos street! Found a cute girl grinding all over me spent $12,000 pesos on our drinks with mamasan! Even tipped good! Go to city garden hotel only to find out the girl doesn't have government ID. As soon as we leave she starts I'm so shy sir drama before we even get to the hotel. Then she try's to get me to pay to go a hotel iron horse owns instead! I returned her back to the club! Told mamasan the embarrassment I just endured. Then she tries to give me uglier girls. I told her the only girl I like there they bring her over and because I have a full size penis says 30,000 to go with me! Instead of the $5000 agreed with the other girl. P.S. $4600 bar fine which after enough of a scene they paid me back! Brutal trip in phillipines worst girls in the world and scams! I'll stick to Colombia, Brazil, Thailand.
Old And Ugly
04-14-25, 18:11
Worst experience ever leaving phillipines in the morning. Went to iron horse tonight in Burgos street! Found a cute girl grinding all over me spent $12,000 pesos on our drinks with mamasan! Even tipped good! Go to city garden hotel only to find out the girl doesn't have government ID. As soon as we leave she starts I'm so shy sir drama before we even get to the hotel. Then she try's to get me to pay to go a hotel iron horse owns instead! I returned her back to the club! Told mamasan the embarrassment I just endured. Then she tries to give me uglier girls. I told her the only girl I like there they bring her over and because I have a full size penis says 30,000 to go with me! Instead of the $5000 agreed with the other girl. P.S. $4600 bar fine which after enough of a scene they paid me back! Brutal trip in phillipines worst girls in the world and scams! I'll stick to Colombia, Brazil, Thailand.They all have IDs, it was something you said or did that, made her want to ditch you, and that was the easy way out. That's what I think.
Thanks Phil, KB & G for your insights. Much appreciated.
It gives me some perspective. Otherwise all the girls I talked on Pina were asking for 5 K. Guess. I need to haggle a bit.
ArmnHammer69
04-14-25, 19:14
They all have IDs, it was something you said or did that, made her want to ditch you, and that was the easy way out. That's what I think.The city garden hotel makati rejected her saying they needed real government ID and would not accept hers! Either way everyone come to Colombia you will have a better time.
Transporter
04-14-25, 19:21
Like other things in life, it often takes time to find what you want and and how to go about efficiently getting it. PI is not my first choice, but I am old, and don't really have patience anymore (its all about me) so being in a somewhat english speaking country has its advantages. Columbia is awesome, and if I had taken the time to learn some spanish, I think I would be visiting there more, but it is what it is.
They all have IDs, it was something you said or did that, made her want to ditch you, and that was the easy way out. That's what I think.Or it was the other extreme: everyone saw P12 k being spent for a lap dance and this labelled Sir Hammer an easy mark. The girls decided to milk it for all it was worth.
It's not uncommon. Just as I said too nice an apartment can push prices up, spending too much money can see the girls push for even more with as little in return as possible.
I've seen guys buy literally trays of drinks only for girls to magically disappear when it's time to go back to the hotel.
Enjoy. G.
The city garden hotel makati rejected her saying they needed real government ID and would not accept hers! Either way everyone come to Colombia you will have a better time.This is new on me. Admittedly I have been only in City Garden Grand. When I have walked women up, they have never asked me to register. They would allow me to go directly. Sad you had this experience.
Expat American
04-15-25, 07:40
Worst experience ever leaving phillipines in the morning. Went to iron horse tonight in Burgos street! Found a cute girl grinding all over me spent $12,000 pesos on our drinks with mamasan! Even tipped good! Go to city garden hotel only to find out the girl doesn't have government ID. As soon as we leave she starts I'm so shy sir drama before we even get to the hotel. Then she try's to get me to pay to go a hotel iron horse owns instead! I returned her back to the club! Told mamasan the embarrassment I just endured. Then she tries to give me uglier girls. I told her the only girl I like there they bring her over and because I have a full size penis says 30,000 to go with me! Instead of the $5000 agreed with the other girl. P.S. $4600 bar fine which after enough of a scene they paid me back! Brutal trip in phillipines worst girls in the world and scams! I'll stick to Colombia, Brazil, Thailand.Wow 12 K! That's a lot of drinks. I spent 4 K for 2 hours with 3 girls all over me (not Iron Horse). 11 drinks total for the girls. All girls had their tops off, all were kissing, one gave a sample BJ under the table, pretty much everything went. You have to take control of the situation. I told the girls, either you can go slow on the drinks and give me a good time and Ill stay long and buy lots of drinks or you can drink this one fast and its last drink I will buy tonight. Your choice. Guess which one they chose? I also bought 3 girls a drink and said, I'm going to choose one girl for many more drinks, and they should compete for that prize. That was a lot of fun. I did buy some more drinks for all of them because they all delivered. You have to understand, in Asia women are used to men taking charge and if you do, they will follow. If you don't, they will walk all over you and not respect you at all. In the above scenario when the waitress would hover trying to push more drinks, the girls themselves told her to go away when I started to get annoyed. Of course they begged to barfine but I had already unloaded into a PL girl earlier for 2 K so wasn't spending 10 K on that (or 20 K for two which is what they were selling).
FuriousGeorge
04-15-25, 07:57
I have stayed at the City Garden Grand many times and have never had an issue with girls coming or leaving. Like all good hotels, they call you when the girl leaves so you can make sure you haven't been ripped off. I never have. Only good experiences. Your experience makes me doubt your approach with the girls. I'm a gringo who speaks fluent Spanish but have never felt the desire to go to Colombia based on: crime, condoms, and fat girls. That's why I stick to the Phils. Maybe try again.
The city garden hotel makati rejected her saying they needed real government ID and would not accept hers! Either way everyone come to Colombia you will have a better time.
Charm City Dave
04-15-25, 09:27
Went into a local Watson's expecting to be able to buy some generic Viagra and to my shock and horror they told me I need a Prescription. Last time I was here I went back with a lot of non-controlled but prescription in the USA Drugs. Are there any pharmacies that are not strict on this? Love to get some Kamagra to take home. I'm staying in Makati.
Thanks!
WestCoast1
04-15-25, 09:57
Went into a local Watson's expecting to be able to buy some generic Viagra and to my shock and horror they told me I need a Prescription. Last time I was here I went back with a lot of non-controlled but prescription in the USA Drugs. Are there any pharmacies that are not strict on this? Love to get some Kamagra to take home. I'm staying in Makati.
Thanks!Thinking CCD has not been keeping up with his Phils RTTF. I purchased generic V pills at each of the Mercury Drug stores on Makati Ave, just a jaunt across and / or up from Burgos St. See the pics. Can't remember the price, but I filed a report here in the Makati thread; you can do an advanced search to find it.
Additionally, since covid, lots of pharmacies now ask a prescription for everything. You just got to shop around.
Old And Ugly
04-15-25, 14:25
The city garden hotel makati rejected her saying they needed real government ID and would not accept hers! Either way everyone come to Colombia you will have a better time.Possible, but also possible, that she showed the one that she knew is not accepted, probably the health card, but we'll never know if was trickery since you didn't got her into the bed. I would have paid for a cheap hotel, now that most of the balance was already settled out.
Colombia is nice, but you may end up dead there very easy, by design, or by chance.
Latinas react different to big spenders, their pussy lips get the trembles, and get all wet when they see one, I know it because I used to play south of the border for a few decades, but asians when they see the potential, concoct all kind of scenarios in their heads on how to separate you from more of your money, in a rapid and clean manor.
Worst experience ever leaving phillipines in the morning. Went to iron horse tonight in Burgos street! Found a cute girl grinding all over me spent $12,000 pesos on our drinks with mamasan! Mate, sorry to be blunt, but there's your fucking / mongering problem to begin with.
Dropping 12 k on drinks without even getting a sniff of a vag?
You have just become an ATM.
City Garden. Never had a problem there with girls with ID.
It's all a game mate.
You've just got to learn how to play and win in The Phils.
The wins can be very rewarding.
_ Phil.
BaddHabbit
04-15-25, 18:02
Went into a local Watson's expecting to be able to buy some generic Viagra and to my shock and horror they told me I need a Prescription. Last time I was here I went back with a lot of non-controlled but prescription in the USA Drugs. Are there any pharmacies that are not strict on this? Love to get some Kamagra to take home. I'm staying in Makati.
Thanks!I have found that TGP, the generics pharmacy, is the best both in terms of lowest price and for not asking for prescriptions.
11 drinks total for the girls. All girls had their tops off, all were kissing, one gave a sample BJ under the table, pretty much everything went. You have to take control of the situation.This is an important point that many guys miss. Asian girls have zero short term memory. Any money spent on drinks, tips etc is for activities received there and then. In no way is it foreplay or her promise for future activities.
The split second she has finished that drink she owes us nothing.
Enjoy. G.
You have to take control of the situation. I told the girls, either you can go slow on the drinks and give me a good time and Ill stay long and buy lots of drinks or you can drink this one fast and its last drink I will buy tonight. Your choice. Guess which one they chose?Again, I totally agree. Several times I've explained the Golden Rule: ie I have the gold so I'm making the rules.
There is no need to be a dick about it but if girls smell chum in the water they very quickly become sharks and devour any new mark.
Enjoy G.
Expat American
04-16-25, 04:08
Again, I totally agree. Several times I've explained the Golden Rule: ie I have the gold so I'm making the rules.
There is no need to be a dick about it but if girls smell chum in the water they very quickly become sharks and devour any new mark.
Enjoy G.Yup. Also had the opposite experience at another bar. Girl came and sat next to me like a princess thinking I bought the expensive drink so we could discuss global politics or something LOL. Towards the end of the drink she asked for another. I told her clearly that I didn't buy drinks to have her sit next to me. So then she climbs on my lap and tries to change my mind. Nope. Paid for the drink and bounced. Again, I have the money so I decide. If I feel I'm getting money's worth I'm happy to let it flow. If not, one drink and out.
I'm never a dick about it though. I am just firm and polite. I'm also playful and joke around with the girls a lot. If they feel they are having fun too, its much easier to get them to relax and have a good time with you. Its still P4 P no doubt, but a bit more relaxed version.
This is an important point that many guys miss. Asian girls have zero short term memory. Any money spent on drinks, tips etc is for activities received there and then. In no way is it foreplay or her promise for future activities. The split second she has finished that drink she owes us nothing. Enjoy. G.Another major reason I avoid the bar scene and so true G.
If you want a food delivery and you're not prepared to cook for yourself, then go for it. And pay extra.
If you want to cook for yourself and discover some other tasty options, it's so much cheaper, and generally, I find you have a better rapport with the girl.
Plus, they usually only have about two Red Horse beers in your room as opposed to that expensive, watered down lady drink in a bar.
I always put it out there to girls that if they FL with me, they'll get a good cut of the action.
It's all transparent and you're calling the shots rather than a Mama or the bar.
And the girl gets all the rewards.
WIn-win.
_ Phil.
WestCoast1
04-16-25, 16:23
Asian girls have zero short term memory.Filipinas: The memory, and attention span, of a gnat.
Yup. Also had the opposite experience at another bar. Girl came and sat next to me like a princess thinking I bought the expensive drink so we could discuss global politics or something LOL. Towards the end of the drink she asked for another. I told her clearly that I didn't buy drinks to have her sit next to me. So then she climbs on my lap and tries to change my mind. Nope. Paid for the drink and bounced. Again, I have the money so I decide. If I feel I'm getting money's worth I'm happy to let it flow. If not, one drink and out.
Everyone rightly cautions about the hardened older girls but I've also learnt to be wary about the young newbies in the hars. Drink quotas and peer pressure add up. I've seen a couple of new girls try to match 300 lb foreigners or seasoned girls drink for drink to the point of being hospitalised and having their stomach pumped. Many have arrived back at the room a 80 lb bucket of jello. And I'm not even a big drinker!
Plus, they usually only have about two Red Horse beers in your room as opposed to that expensive, watered down lady drink in a bar.
_ Phil.Bars can be outrageously expensive if they are allowed to be. However, they can also represent good value if the guy is receiving an immediate quid pro quo. A face full of tits and possibly some sucky sucky for P390 is too good to pass up for me.
That's only available at some bars though, not everywhere.
To repeat: she has to be earning her keep there and then. P12 k just to talk is a waste unless that's what they guy gets off on.
Enjoy. G.
And the girl gets all the rewards.
WIn-win.
_ Phil.It's amazing how little of the proceeds the girls can actually take home: room and board; hair and makeup; food; repaying transport. They all add up. Throw in low season and missed quotas and girls can end up owing money at the end of the month.
It's not surprising that freelancing or after hours hook ups at half rates are attractive.
Enjoy. G.
WestCoast1
04-17-25, 01:07
Tiny, 4' 5-6"-ish critter, with big hair. Last year, as a gift for her long-running service, I paid for her to have a rebond. Her straightened hair came down (at that time) to about 4" above her knees. The chemical bond is gone now, and the hair is back to its natural curl and bounce. When she towels it off after a shower, as it dries, it begins to curl, and it moves up above her butt. Suffice it to say there are times when it can be fun to grab a tendril (or two), stretch it back out, and create some reins, for my nawty pleasure.
Old And Ugly
04-17-25, 07:52
What's a good reasonable hotel near T3? I don't need luxury.
Usually I just take the bus from AC, but with the Easter, and all that commotion on the road, I don't want to miss my US flight.
Going to renew my passport, been gone for almost 4 years now, I wonder what's happening there, beside everything costing triple, I'm going to be like Tarzan, or Crocodile Dundee, behaving like a savage, I have to refrain from talking to young girls casually, and mostly, not grabbing any ass in a bar, because I may end up in jail.
What's a good reasonable hotel near T3? I don't need luxury.
Usually I just take the bus from AC, but with the Easter, and all that commotion on the road, I don't want to miss my US flight.
Going to renew my passport, been gone for almost 4 years now, I wonder what's happening there, beside everything costing triple, I'm going to be like Tarzan, or Crocodile Dundee, behaving like a savage, I have to refrain from talking to young girls casually, and mostly, not grabbing any ass in a bar, because I may end up in jail.I stay at the Winston which is 5-10 min from the airport. Rooms are ok but just for an overnight certainly on the basic side. One good thing is checkout is 24 hrs after arrival, no set time so a lot more manageable than a 12 checkout and 3 checkin arragement.
I'm from the Dubai forum and will be traveling to Manila for the first time and I'm very excited. I'll be there mid may and for 7 days. Will be with family so won't be able to monger for long hours or head to pick up bars at night. Looking for a short time kinda deal preferably during the day. I'm used to spa in dubai rather than pick-up bars and hotels. If anyone can let me know some areas or spas with sureshot service but not at a very high premium. Clues are also fine as to the name, I'm used to figuring out the name from clues as that's how its done in dubai forum. Thanks in advance.
WestCoast1
04-17-25, 13:27
What's a good reasonable hotel near T3? I don't need luxury.Airbnb and agoda also have numerous condo units in the area. Jazz Residence, SeaBreeze, and SMDC Coast Residence condos are next to MOA. I've had success for 1-nighters for the airport for years, in the p2000 range.
Going to renew my passport, been gone for almost 4 years now, I wonder what's happening there, beside everything costing tripleFood and hookers have about doubled in price. Well, that's the rumor.
I'm used to spa in dubai rather than pick-up bars and hotels. If anyone can let me know some areas or spas with sureshot service but not at a very high premium. Hi Dacos,
I'm not aware of too many massage places or spas who will offer full service.
Other guys may be able to assist.
If you want to sneak out for some day time action, I'd be inclined to pick up a freelancer and visit a Sogo hotel or similar short time lodging.
A lot of the freelancers around Makati will know to take you there.
If you're not fussy, you'll get a FL within five minutes on Burgos St. And they mingle around the 7/11.
_ Phil.
Curious GFe
04-17-25, 23:24
What's a good reasonable hotel near T3? I don't need luxury.
Usually I just take the bus from AC, but with the Easter, and all that commotion on the road, I don't want to miss my US flight.
Going to renew my passport, been gone for almost 4 years now, I wonder what's happening there, beside everything costing triple, I'm going to be like Tarzan, or Crocodile Dundee, behaving like a savage, I have to refrain from talking to young girls casually, and mostly, not grabbing any ass in a bar, because I may end up in jail.Hi,
There's a lot of hotel nearby that is safe, nearby and cheaper for a night stay near T3. Flor-Al that will cost you just 600 bucks for 12 hrs stay, besides that there OYO hotel that ranging from 1200 1800. Opposite of that will be Winston's Hotel and Yuj Inn that roughly costing between 900-1500 per night.
Hope it helps and keep safe and have a nice flight.
Hi Dacos,
I'm not aware of too many massage places or spas who will offer full service.
Other guys may be able to assist.
If you want to sneak out for some day time action, I'd be inclined to pick up a freelancer and visit a Sogo hotel or similar short time lodging.
A lot of the freelancers around Makati will know to take you there.
If you're not fussy, you'll get a FL within five minutes on Burgos St. And they mingle around the 7/11.
_ Phil.The Philippines doesn't have the ubiquitous massage ++ joints that are everywhere elsewhere in asia. Even at night there aren't Thai style soapies but a few bars have back rooms or KTVs have dine in. Restricting it to daytime only really limits the choices. ID agree with you that freelancers or Manila Courtesans and a shortime hotel would be the easiest.
G.
Transporter
04-18-25, 02:55
I'm from the Dubai forum and will be traveling to Manila for the first time and I'm very excited. I'll be there mid may and for 7 days. Will be with family so won't be able to monger for long hours or head to pick up bars at night. Looking for a short time kinda deal preferably during the day. I'm used to spa in dubai rather than pick-up bars and hotels. If anyone can let me know some areas or spas with sureshot service but not at a very high premium. Clues are also fine as to the name, I'm used to figuring out the name from clues as that's how its done in dubai forum. Thanks in advance.Just do a search online or go to massage republic, there are many, just got to find one located close to you.
It's going to be a pretty long message with a couple of questions. Its my first international trip and I'm very excited. I would ask my Filipino friends but it's a big taboo thing in the middle east with plenty of SPAs around with sureshot FS and we don't openly talk about it even though we all know what goes on inside.
General questions!!
Are freelancers okay with Condoms as I've read in the forum that you don't mention it until before the deed in the room and not during negotiation? Bareback is fine by me as I enjoy creampies but trying it with freelancers could be risky.
Do I carry condoms or would the girls have it? Usually I don't since they carry since the girls usually have it.
Do the girl offer anal and CIM or is that an extra? CIM is something I'm yet to try and would want to try that.
Where do I book for a Nuru Massage and does it entail Full service? Nuru Massages seem to be a big thing as per my reads about reports in this forum and is also something I would like to experience as it's not a thing here in Dubai.
From my research so far it seems like my best opportunity to experience all my kinks especially NURU.
As always I will be willing to reciprocate info about places in Dubai if any of y'all come. Just say you're from the Philippines Forum!
Hi Dacos,
I'm not aware of too many massage places or spas who will offer full service.
Other guys may be able to assist.
If you want to sneak out for some day time action, I'd be inclined to pick up a freelancer and visit a Sogo hotel or similar short time lodging.
A lot of the freelancers around Makati will know to take you there.
If you're not fussy, you'll get a FL within five minutes on Burgos St. And they mingle around the 7/11..Hey PhilJoy.
Thanks for the reply. I've been browsing the net and yes unfortunately my option is going to be limited to freelancers.
It will be an experience I'm looking forward to since freelancers aren't an option I go for.
Just a few questions as to pricing, so as to not get scammed or hype it up for the locals. How much is the rate for supposed to be? Couple of youtube videos say 2000 to 3000 pesos. Also I would probably try buragos since it's a sureshot place considering my research is youtube videos and Philippines redcat. Com.
Speaking of the website it showed me options as to parlours called Starfleet, The Cave spa, Frictio Health Spa and some KTVs with massage parlours attached like Sylvanus up in Pegasus and Kremlin or also called Classique. Any info is appreciated as to full service and if it's still open, Flight 168 in Air Force One is closed and was kinda wanted to try that out.
KTVs seem like a good option and is indeed a nice experience, also found one that's called classmates I think. Please just let me know if the KTVs provide full service, the rates and which you would suggest or any alternatives, I can justify the price if its a theme type place. If not please let me know some short time rental hotels maybe in Burgos or Makati with names and price, 2 places would be plenty just incase the FR is taking me somewhere shady.
The Philippines doesn't have the ubiquitous massage ++ joints that are everywhere elsewhere in asia. Even at night there aren't Thai style soapies but a few bars have back rooms or KTVs have dine in. Restricting it to daytime only really limits the choices. ID agree with you that freelancers or Manila Courtesans and a shortime hotel would be the easiest.Hey Goferring,
Thanks for the reply. I checked out Manila Courtesans and it's simply amazing, photos and pricing, but my issue is whether its legit.
I've seen other websites in other countries where its similar and end up being too good to be true. I've messaged the chatbot and it suggested some hotels I could book but it all seems too posh and expensive. Will the girls not come if I book a random short time hotel or is it a requirement to book the hotels given by the chatbot? If possible please suggest someone you have taken in the past and a hotel with pricing.
Just do a search online or go to massage republic, there are many, just got to find one located close to you.Hey Transporter.
Thanks for the reply. I've used MR in the past here in Dubai but only after cross checking references in the Dubai forum and seems legit.
Also just to be clear did you mean freelancers or parlours? If you have any suggestions to try, please do let me know with links and prices and I will prefer them as they come recommended. Also is Incall a thing in PH? That would be another way to go.
Transporter
04-21-25, 20:32
Hey Transporter.
Thanks for the reply. I've used MR in the past here in Dubai but only after cross checking references in the Dubai forum and seems legit. Also just to be clear did you mean freelancers or parlours? If you have any suggestions to try, please do let me know with links and prices and I will prefer them as they come recommended. Also is Incall a thing in PH? That would be another way to go.MR has all Freelancers, spa, parlours, nuru, all the above. Keep in mind your definition may not be the same as theirs. Yes all I know of offer both incall and outcall.
Hey Goferring,
Thanks for the reply. I checked out Manila Courtesans and it's simply amazing, photos and pricing, but my issue is whether its legit.
I've seen other websites in other countries where its similar and end up being too good to be true. I've messaged the chatbot and it suggested some hotels I could book but it all seems too posh and expensive. Will the girls not come if I book a random short time hotel or is it a requirement to book the hotels given by the chatbot? If possible please suggest someone you have taken in the past and a hotel with pricing.
MR is legit and while many girls are wildly overpriced vs outside, many are gorgeous.
Ignore any princess with a tick list of requirements. If the hotel isn't up to her standards, then you don't want to know her anyway. No need to be a dick but Pinas react well to the guy taking the lead. Guys that aquiece to all their requests quickly find themselves duped or ripped off. Best to say I'm here with this much. Are you interested? Maybe a little wiggle room on price but not lots of requirements.
Enjoy. G.
P.S. My comments about pricing is when you are dealing direct with the girl. MR is fixed price as far as I know but the prices of different girls vary wildly. As usual, higher price does not guarantee better service.
G.
Are freelancers okay with Condoms as I've read in the forum that you don't mention it until before the deed in the room and not during negotiation? Bareback is fine by me as I enjoy creampies but trying it with freelancers could be risky.
Do I carry condoms or would the girls have it? Usually I don't since they carry since the girls usually have it.
Do the girl offer anal and CIM or is that an extra? CIM is something I'm yet to try and would want to try that.
Just a few questions as to pricing, so as to not get scammed or hype it up for the locals. How much is the rate for supposed to be? Couple of youtube videos say 2000 to 3000 pesos. 1 - Your choice. Just throw one on if you have concerns. Only ever had one FL who mentioned a condom.
2 - BYO with freelancers.
3 - Freelancers will offer a BJ before anything else. Whether they spit or swallow, you won't know until it happens. As for hitting them up the clacker, be prepared for rejection or be willing to pay for the privilege.
4 - Depends on your negotiating skills. I recently had a great FL in Makati who was happy with 2000 p and she stayed the night and got a 1000 p tip after some wake-up action. Others I've paid 4000 as they were 'up there' in the looks department and it was worth it, considering I didn't have to pay bar fines and LD's. If you're negotiating in this price range, make sure she's committed to more than just one shot and it's not all over in half an hour.
Just from my experience _ Phil.
Old And Ugly
04-22-25, 16:15
1 - Your choice. Just throw one on if you have concerns. Only ever had one FL who mentioned a condom.
2 - BYO with freelancers.
3 - Freelancers will offer a BJ before anything else. Whether they spit or swallow, you won't know until it happens. As for hitting them up the clacker, be prepared for rejection or be willing to pay for the privilege.
4 - Depends on your negotiating skills. I recently had a great FL in Makati who was happy with 2000 p and she stayed the night and got a 1000 p tip after some wake-up action. Others I've paid 4000 as they were 'up there' in the looks department and it was worth it, considering I didn't have to pay bar fines and LD's. If you're negotiating in this price range, make sure she's committed to more than just one shot and it's not all over in half an hour.
Just from my experience _ Phil.I think he's worried that the FLs will not accept sex with condoms, at least that's what I'm understanding.
Only ever had one FL who mentioned a condom.
_ Phil.A few of the hard core girls are starting to use condoms as something that can bargained away for increased fees. Just like extra shots, anal, CIM etc.
Not Manila but EVERY Gensan Walker started off saying they were required but were quick to back down. Not a single PinaLove girl mentioned them.
Cheers. G.
I think he's worried that the FLs will not accept sex with condoms, at least that's what I'm understanding.To be honest Ugly, I'm losing track of it all, as there's been so many questions asked recently about getting some action with many obstacles in place.
_ Phil.
Old And Ugly
04-24-25, 14:58
To be honest Ugly, I'm losing track of it all, as there's been so many questions asked recently about getting some action with many obstacles in place.
_ Phil.I have the mobile lab, and the lab technician with me: before I stick my dick into them my GF goes down on them and fingers them, then let's me know if it's ok or not. Depending on the test results we silently decide the course of action and the sequence of events.
I have the mobile lab, and the lab technician with me: before I stick my dick into them my GF goes down on them and fingers them, then let's me know if it's ok or not. Depending on the test results we silently decide the course of action and the sequence of events.Wow, what a great approach Ugly. Love it.
I think, as others have mentioned here on other posts, DacosTax is overthinking everything.
There's always a way to have a naughty on the side, but when you're so worried about covering your tracks, especially with family in tow, is it worth the effort?
We've offered quite a few suggestions for him, and we all take a risk of sorts, when it comes to bedding a hot, or not so hot, Pina.
Sometimes people have to work it out for themselves _ Phil.
Hey guys thanks again for all the replies. I appreciate your experience highly and your valuable input. I also apologise for asking a lot of questions and complicating things.
I'm currently undergoing the visa processes and just found out my family lives in close proximity to Burgos ST, maybe a 10-15 minutes walk. After reading a lot of posts, I've come to the decision to either go for a FL on Burgos or get one off of Manila Courtesans. Get a Short time hotel or sogo or just follow the lead of the chosen FL. I was hoping for a full night sort off arrangement but that won't be quite possible, so I will be taking a 2 or 3 hour session instead.
Another option would be Pina Love or FB walkers. Here I have a couple of doubts which I will list below.
I understood that PL is like tinder. Would I need a premium version to properly utilize or could I make do with the free version?
Made a Proxy account to search for FB walkers and used tips from the forum such as walkers manila etc. But mostly see spa girls advertising themselves on market place. Am I at the right place or am I doing something wrong?
I would be trying to pickup someone from the 7/11 PhilJoy earlier mentioned. Any other recommendations for hotspots? Specifically for the daytime.
1 - Your choice. Just throw one on if you have concerns. Only ever had one FL who mentioned a condom.
2 - BYO with freelancers.
3 - Freelancers will offer a BJ before anything else. Whether they spit or swallow, you won't know until it happens. As for hitting them up the clacker, be prepared for rejection or be willing to pay for the privilege.
4 - Depends on your negotiating skills. I recently had a great FL in Makati who was happy with 2000 p and she stayed the night and got a 1000 p tip after some wake-up action. Others I've paid 4000 as they were 'up there' in the looks department and it was worth it, considering I didn't have to pay bar fines and LD's. If you're negotiating in this price range, make sure she's committed to more than just one shot and it's not all over in half an hour.
Just from my experience _ Phil.Thanks for this input. My dilemma was whether to wear or not to wear. It's a considerable risk but a risk I'm willing to take. I've Mongered in India and Dubai and condoms are the norm but in my adventures I've only found 1 spa's in both countries where I've been able to skip wearing one and I'm a regular. I have faced performance issues wearing a condom and the girl asked me to remove it and I enjoyed my session. So it's going to be no condoms for this trip.
So here is something I'm doubtful about, the BJ. It take me a while to finish when I'm getting a BJ, so usually it's cut short and we proceed to the main act. It's one of the reasons I've not gotten a CIM another could be that the girl didn't want to continue with the BJ.
Anyways how is it in Philippines with the FL, is that considered another shot? Do I have to ask while negotiating or is it understood?
I have to say I'm a pretty good negotiator but only when I know the real price. I will mostly opt for a short time maybe 2-3 hrs per session maybe 2 shots and need to have a CIM (basically finish once with a BJ spit or swallow). I wouldn't mind paying a little extra for better looks or mind paying extra for the CIM.
I understand that the rates would be anywhere between 2000-4000 pesos or is it lesser for shorter time?
I think he's worried that the FLs will not accept sex with condoms, at least that's what I'm understanding.Initially that was what I was thinking and you understood right. But I will be going forward without one.
Wow, what a great approach Ugly. Love it.
I think, as others have mentioned here on other posts, DacosTax is overthinking everything.
There's always a way to have a naughty on the side, but when you're so worried about covering your tracks, especially with family in tow, is it worth the effort?
We've offered quite a few suggestions for him, and we all take a risk of sorts, when it comes to bedding a hot, or not so hot, Pina.
Sometimes people have to work it out for themselves _ Phil.I truly appreciate all your inputs and it helped with my decision. It's true I was overthinking and took the day yesterday to read a lot of pages in the forum which helped a bit more. Not really covering tracks since I always have that part of the adventure covered but more worried about the risk of catching something. These risks are prevalent everywhere and I truly just overthinked it too much without justification.
Old And Ugly
04-25-25, 11:31
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I truly appreciate all your inputs and it helped with my decision. It's true I was overthinking and took the day yesterday to read a lot of pages in the forum which helped a bit more. Not really covering tracks since I always have that part of the adventure covered but more worried about the risk of catching something. These risks are prevalent everywhere and I truly just overthinked it too much without justification.Not bringing something home after your adventure is part of the covering up the tracks, actually the most important one. When I used to be married and whoring around I always put on a condom for intercourse, it sucks and it's no fun especially when getting to certain sequence in a 3 some, like pussy, mouth, pussy, if you keep it on it's weird and no real feeling, if you take it off then put another one on, it's complicated, etc. Also if you do blowjob after removing the condom the girl may complain about the taste of the lube that's on the inside of the condom.
The few times when the condom came off, by accident, or passion I always found an excuse not to have sex with the wife until tested, and cleared.
A simpler way, which I've been using all my unmarried life is to wash and pee immediately after the sex, don't get lazy. It kept me safe, but is not guaranteed.
I have no experience with that, but some members were discussing a prophylactic antibiotic regimen before and after the sex here in the forum, not to long ago, maybe you should search for that.
Use your common sense, if something fishy is going on down there, stay away, use your fingers for the foreplay, doucheing is not common in the PH, so if the smell from the depths of the pleasure well is not from the specific filipina shrimp salt variety range, avoid it.
Stay safe!
I understood that PL is like tinder. Would I need a premium version to properly utilize or could I make do with the free version?
I would be trying to pickup someone from the 7/11 PhilJoy earlier mentioned.
So here is something I'm doubtful about, the BJ. It take me a while to finish when I'm getting a BJ, so usually it's cut short and we proceed to the main act. It's one of the reasons I've not gotten a CIM another could be that the girl didn't want to continue with the BJ. Anyways how is it in Philippines with the FL, is that considered another shot? Do I have to ask while negotiating or is it understood?
I have to say I'm a pretty good negotiator but only when I know the real price. I will mostly opt for a short time maybe 2-3 hrs per session maybe 2 shots and need to have a CIM (basically finish once with a BJ spit or swallow). I wouldn't mind paying a little extra for better looks or mind paying extra for the CIM.
I understand that the rates would be anywhere between 2000-4000 pesos or is it lesser for shorter time?Hi Dacos,
From my limited time on PL, it's not really like Tinder. You just have to look for girls who want to communicate off-site (ie on WhatsApp) and chances are they're probably FL's willing to negotiate.
And yes, it's worth going premium for a short visit.
My suggestion of hitting on the girls outside the 7/11 is probably bottom of the barrel, but at least you'll get to get your rocks off (Not that I have done them, but whenever I've been there, I've been swamped with propositions).
If you're paying a girl for CIM, and especially a FL, she should be willing to do the deed if you tell her upfront what you want. However, sucking on it for half an hour could become hard work for her. I know that licking a clit for an extended period of time can be quite a workout. Keep in mind that asking for extras with hookers is like paying for extra beetroot on your hamburger or pepperoni on your pizza.
Short time of 2-3 hrs probably wouldn't be short time in their minds. Usually for most, it's just one shot in the shortest possible time so they can move on the the next paying punter.
As mentioned, it's all negotiable. But you're not going to get ST for 2-3 hrs for 2000 p unless it's 3 am in the morning and they need money for food and family. When hitting up a FL tell them exactly what you want upfront. If they don't like it, just tell the next one "She didn't want to do CIM".
PL helped me out in Boracay which is not your typical mongering area. I wouldn't be bothered with it if I had to spend too much time on it, especially if there's FL options out there on the street. However, the quality of girls might be better, if their pics are verified.
Just my experience _ Phil.
Not bringing something home after your adventure is part of the covering up the tracks, actually the most important one. When I used to be married and whoring around I always put on a condom for intercourse, it sucks and it's no fun especially when getting to certain sequence in a 3 some, like pussy, mouth, pussy, if you keep it on it's weird and no real feeling, if you take it off then put another one on, it's complicated, etc. Also if you do blowjob after removing the condom the girl may complain about the taste of the lube that's on the inside of the condom.
The few times when the condom came off, by accident, or passion I always found an excuse not to have sex with the wife until tested, and cleared.
A simpler way, which I've been using all my unmarried life is to wash and pee immediately after the sex, don't get lazy. It kept me safe, but is not guaranteed.
I have no experience with that, but some members were discussing a prophylactic antibiotic regimen before and after the sex here in the forum, not to long ago, maybe you should search for that.
Use your common sense, if something fishy is going on down there, stay away, use your fingers for the foreplay, doucheing is not common in the PH, so if the smell from the depths of the pleasure well is not from the specific filipina shrimp salt variety range, avoid it.
Stay safe!Good point and I didn't think of it that way since I'm not married or have a partner but still wouldn't want to be at the receiving end of any problems. I always do follow the wash and pee method after intercourse. I will surely take a gander at the antibiotic regimen, I think I might have scrolled past the post maybe here in manila or makati forum or maybe even the hotel form but for sure will look for it again and thanks for that. I always do sneak my hand during foreplay and take a sniff just to be sure but will be more alert and careful. I've read in another post I think an FR mentioning a specific filipina smell and also heard from a friend who's into filipinas back here in Dubai that there's a distinct smell but no cause for concern. As a beginner, I've experienced bad smell one time and its stuck with me so I'm generally careful and appreciate the reminder.
Hi Dacos,
From my limited time on PL, it's not really like Tinder. You just have to look for girls who want to communicate off-site (ie on WhatsApp) and chances are they're probably FL's willing to negotiate.
And yes, it's worth going premium for a short visit.
My suggestion of hitting on the girls outside the 7/11 is probably bottom of the barrel, but at least you'll get to get your rocks off (Not that I have done them, but whenever I've been there, I've been swamped with propositions).
If you're paying a girl for CIM, and especially a FL, she should be willing to do the deed if you tell her upfront what you want. However, sucking on it for half an hour could become hard work for her. I know that licking a clit for an extended period of time can be quite a workout. Keep in mind that asking for extras with hookers is like paying for extra beetroot on your hamburger or pepperoni on your pizza.
Short time of 2-3 hrs probably wouldn't be short time in their minds. Usually for most, it's just one shot in the shortest possible time so they can move on the the next paying punter.
As mentioned, it's all negotiable. But you're not going to get ST for 2-3 hrs for 2000 p unless it's 3 am in the morning and they need money for food and family. When hitting up a FL tell them exactly what you want upfront. If they don't like it, just tell the next one "She didn't want to do CIM".
PL helped me out in Boracay which is not your typical mongering area. I wouldn't be bothered with it if I had to spend too much time on it, especially if there's FL options out there on the street. However, the quality of girls might be better, if their pics are verified.
Just my experience _ Phil.It's totally different I agree, from reading a few post I expected it to be your average dating app. Just signed up on PL and man it's amazing, totally unexpected. PL is literally paradise compared to Tinder. I've been getting a lot of hits and messages with numbers for whatsapp, looking for fun and casual only messages and are you free now or are you in manila or makati. I think a person coming to Philippines the first time is going to take about 5 minutes to understand the different places like what's the difference between metro manila and manila and is makati in manila. So I've been switching up the location between the 2 places and been getting a lot of hit. It's nice that I can change location easily to browse even before coming. I might try to hit up some girls on PL when I'm there if not MC and only concede to FL's at burgos as my last option.
A few things about PL.
I'm not looking for freebies nor am I expecting it but won't mind if I do end up getting it, I still plan on paying at least 1500 - 2000 for their time. Would that be enough?
From your experience, have the girls ever taking you back to their place (considering they are students or just girl who want to have fun or maybe even incall FL) or is it always going to be a hotel type deal?
I was only considering 7/11 since it was suggested by you but I guess it's a mistake on my part because I just asking where to find FL. If there's anywhere else you'd rather have me try I would be up for it. Maybe something decent and not bottom of the barrel stuff. My absolute max would be 5 k considering MC girls charge that as a minimum for their time excluding hotel and transpo charges but would love a cheaper alternative anywhere between 2-4 k. Travelling a bit won't hurt too just don't want my options to be limited to that 7/11. If you could, I would appreciate any recommendations.
I don't expect the FLs to meet all my expectations but will negotiate accordingly. I'm just going to go with the flow I guess. Will try to get someone willing to do CIM and just hope it'll be a good BJ.
I've also planned a Quezon City trip after reading a few posts. Turns out the spas that offer FS or ES as they say in the Philippines are there and the same names I had mentioned initially. I should thank Shiny Crazy for the reports and where to find out about them. It's a bit expensive for a shot but it's my kinda thing. Only considering this if PL doesn't work out, but heading to QC anyways.
I plan on posting a detailed guide for the average traveller on how to monger in the Philippines limited to where I visit, FR or FRs and will do so in my home forum too.
Old And Ugly
04-26-25, 07:12
From your experience, have the girls ever taking you back to their place (considering they are students or just girl who want to have fun or maybe even incall FL) or is it always going to be a hotel type deal?
.They will never take you to their place, and also you don't want to go there, is better not to know how most of them live.
Also if a girl that you don't know invites you to her place, probably you are going to be robbed, or kidnapped.
Alexandra2525
04-26-25, 11:05
The options aren't complicated.
1) Doxy PEP ie Doxycycline. 200 mgs within 72 hours of exposure. Effective against Chlamydia and Syphilis, NOT Gonorrhea. There is no effective prophylaxis against Gn.
2) HPV. If you're under 45 get vaccinated.
3) HIV. BB oral sex (either way) virtually no risk.
BB Vaginal sex very low risk.
BB Anal sex, you should take PreP.
4) Consider Hep B vaccination. Very very low risk unless you go down on a woman who has some blood in the vagina (which maybe in trace amounts that you can't see / taste / smell). But as HepB is a life changing disease and causes liver cancer it makes sense if you are a regular monger who likes to eat pussy.
I think that covers everything.
The options aren't complicated.
1) Doxy PEP ie Doxycycline. 200 mgs within 72 hours of exposure. Effective against Chlamydia and Syphilis, NOT Gonorrhea. There is no effective prophylaxis against Gn.
2) HPV. If you're under 45 get vaccinated.
3) HIV. BB oral sex (either way) virtually no risk.
BB Vaginal sex very low risk.
BB Anal sex, you should take PreP.
4) Consider Hep B vaccination. Very very low risk unless you go down on a woman who has some blood in the vagina (which maybe in trace amounts that you can't see / taste / smell). But as HepB is a life changing disease and causes liver cancer it makes sense if you are a regular monger who likes to eat pussy.
I think that covers everything.There is some benefit with DoxyPrep for gonorrhea, especially if you add an additional 100 MG after BB, I. E prep of 100, but add another dose or full 200 doxyPEP after. The numbers are great for prep with other bacterial infections, but gonorrhea lower but still helps.
Just a copy paste for gonorrhea treatment, so might be worth picking up at a pharmacy somewhere that doesn't need a prescription to have on hand. Not sure which pharmacy close to everything might sell it OTC. If you're ever in Indonesia doxy was CHEAP OTC and prevented issues.
Take two Cefixime (400 MG each) and four Azithromycin (250 MG each). Take all six pills at the same time to be cured.
I've read in another post I think an FR mentioning a specific filipina smell and also heard from a friend who's into filipinas back here in Dubai that there's a distinct smell but no cause for concern. As a beginner, I've experienced bad smell one time and its stuck with me so I'm generally careful and appreciate the reminder.
I'm not looking for freebies nor am I expecting it but won't mind if I do end up getting it, I still plan on paying at least 1500 - 2000 for their time. Would that be enough?Mate, I've been down on pussy all over the world and it's laughable that Pina's have a distinct aroma. As for paying 1500 -2000, you're pretty much dreaming, unless, as I mentioned, you're picking up desperate girls off the street at 3 or 4 o'clock in the morning.
With respect, after all the advice offered, I think you just need to land in Manila, take onboard the advice offered previously, and then work it out for yourself, like many of us have had to do in the past.
_Phil.
Mate, I've been down on pussy all over the world and it's laughable that Pina's have a distinct aroma. As for paying 1500 -2000, you're pretty much dreaming, unless, as I mentioned, you're picking up desperate girls off the street at 3 or 4 o'clock in the morning.
With respect, after all the advice offered, I think you just need to land in Manila, take onboard the advice offered previously, and then work it out for yourself, like many of us have had to do in the past..This is prolly my last post till I reach in Manila. Chatted with a couple of potentials on PL and you're right 1.5-2 k is way too low. All the advice y'all have given me so far was great and has a good idea on what to do. Fair to say all my doubts have been cleared and I'm ready for manila. Hoping I can give an amazing FR of my experiences. Thanks for all the help given in the past few days.
Mate, I've been down on pussy all over the world and it's laughable that Pina's have a distinct aroma. I basically agree but: different girls obviously smell and taste differently; Indonesian girls have access to a Jamu / traditional medicine that makes their pussy smell and taste so sweet (trust me, it works); years ago I had a Cebu promo girl / dancer whose pussy was so good that I can still taste it to this day.
I'd suggest Dacos do as much research as he can to verify regional differences and preferred tastes. 😜.
Enjoy. G.
WestCoast1
04-29-25, 05:12
I'd suggest Dacos do as much research as he can to verify regional differences and preferred tastes. 😜.And report out regularly. Most days.
I basically agree but: different girls obviously smell and taste differently; Indonesian girls have access to a Jamu / traditional medicine that makes their pussy smell and taste so sweet (trust me, it works); years ago I had a Cebu promo girl / dancer whose pussy was so good that I can still taste it to this day.
I'd suggest Dacos do as much research as he can to verify regional differences and preferred tastes. 😜..I didn't mean any offence to pina girls, I haven't had the opportunity to go down on a pina but a friend has and he told me about his experience. He isn't a monger and hasn't been travelling and trying different nationalities. He prefers pinas and one of the things he loved most was the distinct salty taste. The topic came up when I was advised by Ugly to make sure to do a smell test during foreplay and it came to mind. Maybe saying smell rather than aroma was wrong but the word wasn't coming to mind. Obviously every girl's smell and taste is going to be different but I usually don't do down on them so I can't really be a judge of it.
And report out regularly. Most days.Will do. Hoping to get 3 girls in my 6 day stay but at least 2 is my target for the trip. An update on PL, I've spoken to a couple of potential girls and they range between 4-5 k which is fine but I did get one for 2. 5 k but the location is a bit away from Makati around 1 HR drive. Lets see how it goes.
BaddHabbit
04-30-25, 17:54
….. but I did get one for 2. 5 k but the location is a bit away from Makati around 1 HR drive. Lets see how it goes.1 HR drive is about 3 kms! 🤗.
Senhor Bom
04-30-25, 19:37
Worst experience ever leaving phillipines in the morning. Went to iron horse tonight in Burgos street! Found a cute girl grinding all over me spent $12,000 pesos on our drinks with mamasan! Even tipped good! Go to city garden hotel only to find out the girl doesn't have government ID. As soon as we leave she starts I'm so shy sir drama before we even get to the hotel. Then she try's to get me to pay to go a hotel iron horse owns instead! I returned her back to the club! Told mamasan the embarrassment I just endured. Then she tries to give me uglier girls. I told her the only girl I like there they bring her over and because I have a full size penis says 30,000 to go with me! Instead of the $5000 agreed with the other girl. P.S. $4600 bar fine which after enough of a scene they paid me back! Brutal trip in phillipines worst girls in the world and scams! I'll stick to Colombia, Brazil, Thailand.
Wow 12 K! That's a lot of drinks. I spent 4 K for 2 hours with 3 girls all over me (not Iron Horse). 11 drinks total for the girls. All girls had their tops off, all were kissing, one gave a sample BJ under the table, pretty much everything went. You have to take control of the situation. I told the girls, either you can go slow on the drinks and give me a good time and Ill stay long and buy lots of drinks or you can drink this one fast and its last drink I will buy tonight. Your choice. Guess which one they chose? I also bought 3 girls a drink and said, I'm going to choose one girl for many more drinks, and they should compete for that prize. That was a lot of fun. I did buy some more drinks for all of them because they all delivered. You have to understand, in Asia women are used to men taking charge and if you do, they will follow. If you don't, they will walk all over you and not respect you at all. In the above scenario when the waitress would hover trying to push more drinks, the girls themselves told her to go away when I started to get annoyed. Of course they begged to barfine but I had already unloaded into a PL girl earlier for 2 K so wasn't spending 10 K on that (or 20 K for two which is what they were selling).The second quote is a response to the first quote that was initially posted by another member. I agree with the point in the second quote about taking control of the environment you put yourself in. These bars that push Lady Drinks are places where you need to be aware of what is going on around you and be in complete control.
To spend x amount in any bar on drinks, that is up to the individual and is their choice alone. My experience of Iron Horse was largely pleasurable and I have no regrets, that said I took one of the ladies private and not outside. Once all was done I left and did not hang about to drink the free drinks that was given to me in private. Be in control, don't let people manipulate and push you for drinks. Be prepared to say no on anything. Ultimately, in lady bars you are creating a personal experience for yourself. Once inside, it is up to you to tailor what happens next in that bar and the price paid for that experience.
WestCoast1
05-01-25, 08:05
And report out regularly. Most days.
Will do. Hoping to get 3 girls in my 6 day stay but at least 2 is my target for the trip.I was joking. For security, it might be better to post your reports after you depart the city.
WestCoast1
05-01-25, 08:10
Worst experience ever leaving phillipines in the morning. Went to iron horse tonight in Burgos street! Found a cute girl grinding all over me spent $12,000 pesos on our drinks with mamasan! Even tipped good! Go to city garden hotel only to find out the girl doesn't have government ID.
Wow 12 K! That's a lot of drinks. I spent 4 K for 2 hours with 3 girls all over me (not Iron Horse). 11 drinks total for the girls. All girls had their tops off, all were kissing, one gave a sample BJ under the table, pretty much everything went.
The second quote is a response to the first quote that was initially posted by another member. I agree with the point in the second quote about taking control of the environment you put yourself in. These bars that push Lady Drinks are places where you need to be aware of what is going on around you and be in complete control.Possible miscommunication here. Its possible the AnH's p12,000 was not just for LD's, but for a full barfine + gogo girl tip + drinks? P12 k would not be out of line with a fun evening buying a few LD's + barfine.
1 HR drive is about 3 kms! 🤗.I heard Manila traffic is bad and I just checked google maps as a reference but you're probably right. Will stick to Makati.
I was joking. For security, it might be better to post your reports after you depart the city.Yes of course. I would probably be too busy to actually sit and write down the reports. Just hope the experience sticks to my memory down to the last detail.
I heard Manila traffic is bad and I just checked google maps as a reference but you're probably right. Will stick to Makati.
Yes of course. I would probably be too busy to actually sit and write down the reports. Just hope the experience sticks to my memory down to the last detail.You can make an effort by writing down notes before you forget. Looking forward to your reports.
Giovanni Volo
05-10-25, 19:39
Hello everybody.
I was just one time in LA Cafe', and I can share my impression.
I arrived by taxy, taxy driver do not know LA Cafe', but it was easy to see the place, in a angle of street, with some people outside and I person that check the entrance.
Inside is divided by ground and 1st floor, in my view quite different.
Ground floor is very full, but people look respectful. Look a fun place. Girl I see was not bad, but nothing I would take to Makati in my hotel (where I was staying). Alcolic drink is cheaper, and somebody was grabbing some food, that I never tried.
Then I go to the first floor. More empty. A lot of women waiting. Nothing special but not so bad.
Best ones was around a table with Asia guy, looking them waiting for a call. But when I was there no guy call them.
So a place to see IF YOU ARE ALREADY IN MANILA. It look fun, particular, and women are not bad.
If you do not found the women for yoo, just drink and eat, and enjoy the crazy atmosphere.
WestCoast1
05-11-25, 06:35
I'll be in the Philippines soon. Does this girl take creampies? Probably not. Never heard of it in Phils. Nothing to see here Tasty. Move along, move along.
Almost every girl I have fucked in the Philippines in the last 4 years. And it's many. Have gone raw and 95% with creampie.That pic. Too close? Too much for you mild-mannered pervs?
Hi,
I wrote a quick script for Manila Courtesans as they have some many listings, this might save you sometime, I can update it once in a while if anyone is interested.
Lowest Height to Waist Ratio.
Isabella, Ria, Zelda, Charlie, Jasmine are all under 27%.
Biggest Breasts.
Carmela, Eloise, and Solana are DS, - Zelda is Unique in being so tiny for Height to Waist and still be a see cup.
Youngest:
Claire, Lavinia and Amie are all 18.
Cheapest:
Jenny, Vicky and Jade are all $4500 for two hours.
Shortest:
Only Jade is under 5'0 tall.
Most Curvy Waist to Hips Ratio.
Lianne, Ria, Amie are over 140%.
Hope this helps!
Cheers,
MysteryOcean
06-17-25, 23:51
Never said that. But interpretations in this forum is just another level here. We all willingly to do some crazy things with our money, because well, it's our money, and anybody can do whatever with their money, but even when we do it we are self conscious we doing it like that guy who asks the question about offering 5000 to save time, he consciously know it's extra, but he also wants some quick 'yes'. To take your example again, yes, I, myself, once paid $150 in Nigeria for a Arya starr lookalike (google that one), for those who don't know what she looks like here's her insta https://www.instagram.com/ayrastarr/?hl=en . The girl was a lookalike body and face it was crazy, on top of the drinks, could easily reached $200 on that encounter alone. Does that mean it's the regular rate over there with college students if ever you planning a trip to nigeria?, or even pros in Ikeja, NO. Did I overpaid?. Was the amount Stoopid compare to Ikeja rates?. Hell yes, . Was it worthy?. Hell yes, because of the way I felt with her, and the way I stupidly went balls deep in that ass. But facts are facts. And facts don't change feelings. No matter how she made me feel, the FACT is, I still willingly went overboard, and that's what I meant, but that's not in any case the regular rate in Lagos. So, it's either you are willing to spend that much cash (no judgement), or you just don't know. . It was to disagree with the statement of someone who said: 5000 k is bottom rate, when you don't have much time in the phils. . #blowyourcash however on whoever#.This kind of girls are in abundance in Rwanda. This beauty feature is close to Rwandan / Sudanese. It will cost you more in Nigeria but hardly $25 in Rwanda / Burundi.
MysteryOcean
06-23-25, 06:58
Hello all,
My mongering experience has been extensively in Africa and Mexico / Colombia. I am making my first trip to Philippines next week.
To test the water, I just signed up on Pinalove and it has been blowing up. Girls want to go from date to stay with me for my entire duration.
I like my privacy, I never had this option before so not sure what to expect with same girl (stranger) with me all the time?
Is it advisable to keep one girl or most girl will go for sex on first date?
Contrary to popular features, My type of girls are in late 20's or early 30's bit chubby.
Should I negotiate payment in advance? Or how do I approach money part? How much do you guys pay for ST, overnight or for a week in Makati?
Please help me out, Filipina have been on my wish list for long time, This is I cancelled my Colombia trip for this.
Hello all, I am making my first trip to Philippines next week.
To test the water, I just signed up on Pinalove and it has been blowing up. Girls want to go from date to stay with me for my entire duration.
I like my privacy, I never had this option before so not sure what to expect with same girl (stranger) with me all the time?
Is it advisable to keep one girl or most girl will go for sex on first date?
Contrary to popular features, My type of girls are in late 20's or early 30's bit chubby.
Should I negotiate payment in advance? Or how do I approach money part? How much do you guys pay for ST, overnight or for a week in Makati?Hi mate,
Nothing wrong with chubby and a bit older if that's your thing.
And from experience, they're damn good in bed, unless they they think that, just because they're on 'the game' they can charge top end prices.
You have asked a lot of questions that have been covered here extensively in the past, so my advice is to do a little searching.
I take it that you're planning on doing the freelance route, as opposed to the bar scene?
I've done the Pina Love thing only in typical non-mongering locations like Boracay and it's been fruitful on those occasions.
As for Manila, you'll be bombarded by requests. Just look into the ones who openly say to contact them via Whatsapp and off the platform.
They're generally the 'workers'.
A lot of guys don't get it, but this whole thing is a negotiation process and you can name your price.
As for ST and LT, the prices vary depending on the arrangement and whether it's outside of the bar scene.
Never go with payment in advance for some talent online.
When you hit Manila and get in touch with your Pina Love contacts that make your phone ping every few minutes, just tell them the truth and say you're looking for ST or LT and name your price.
And negotiate from there. I've found the best way to do it is chatting to them on Whatsapp.
If you find a 'winner' you can spend however long you want with them during your visit and have sex on tap.
My average ST & LT prices have ranged between 2-5 K in Makati for FL's, but every situation is different.
Just my experience _ Phil.
Hello all,
My mongering experience has been extensively in Africa and Mexico / Colombia. I am making my first trip to Philippines next week.
To test the water, I just signed up on Pinalove and it has been blowing up. Girls want to go from date to stay with me for my entire duration.
I like my privacy, I never had this option before so not sure what to expect with same girl (stranger) with me all the time?
Is it advisable to keep one girl or most girl will go for sex on first date?
Contrary to popular features, My type of girls are in late 20's or early 30's bit chubby.
Should I negotiate payment in advance? Or how do I approach money part? How much do you guys pay for ST, overnight or for a week in Makati?
Please help me out, Filipina have been on my wish list for long time, This is I cancelled my Colombia trip for this.What Phil said but I would add:
Do not pre commit to anything. No getting met at the airport, let's go to Boracay, stay with me for a week. Do all those after you have met a girl and road tested her a few times. Any one can be wonderful while you are thousands of miles away. See how she is in real life.
Do your negotiating and scheduling sitting in your hotel in manila. You think you're getting a lot of options now? Wait until until you are around the corner and girls can drop around now. Pre read all the posts here to find all the permutations of stay length, services, looks and cost so that you can go in pre armed.
You can also read up in all the different delivery options and choose what fits with you. KTVs? P. Burgos? Online? Street walkers? Malls? Good girls? The list goes on.
Wrt stay lengths, again, that's up to you and there is no one size fits all. ST, LT, whole stay XLT. They are all available. There are also mixes: STs during the day then a over night LT; a girl who stays every night but works during the day allowing you to get infills; girls that will follow you for a weekend on the beach. The options are endless.
One thing I would recommend is that there is no need to insult the girls but just be upfront and honest with what you want and your situation. It's amazing what they will accept and work around. There is no need to make up BS stories about being a single brain surgeon millionaire just to attract girls. In town for two days? Married at home? Like to have a BJ while bouncing on a pogo stick reciting Chaucer?? All in a nights work for these girls.
Enjoy. G.
WestCoast1
06-26-25, 21:00
Plug her in the back, then take her (and the plug) out for dinner and music. Take her home and plug her twice at the same time.
Reason #192 I live dem filipina. Amazing things happen there.
I mean, her butt, is just so big
I can't believe it's just so round, it's like out there
. . . .
I like big butts and I can not lie
You other brothers can't deny
That when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waist
And a round thing in your face
You get SPRUNG,
-- Sir Mix-A-Lot, Baby Got Back.
Plug her in the back, then take her (and the plug) out for dinner and music. Take her home and plug her twice at the same time.
Reason #192 I live dem filipina. Amazing things happen there.
I mean, her butt, is just so big
I can't believe it's just so round, it's like out there
. . . .
I like big butts and I can not lie
You other brothers can't deny
That when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waist
And a round thing in your face
You get SPRUNG,
-- Sir Mix-A-Lot, Baby Got Back.You are making me feel that manila is better than pattaya.
WestCoast1
06-27-25, 23:17
You are making me feel that manila is better than pattaya.No. Good sir: Get thee to Thailand (thus leaving more pina-poon to me). Nothing to see here in Phils. Move along, move along. The odds of getting a 75-lb spinner to open her fanny-domes is, well, just about nil.
No. Good sir: Get thee to Thailand (thus leaving more pina-poon to me). Nothing to see here in Phils. Move along, move along. The odds of getting a 75-lb spinner to open her fanny-domes is, well, just about nil.Weren't we just talking about Google Maps?? Looks like you need to down load a copy to prevent getting lost and veering down the wrong hole. 😜.
Went during the day. Maybe 25 women, in their late 20's and 30's waiting for customers. The be and see team on duty. I had to nut so propositioned one on a smoke break outside. She started with 5 k. Didn't lay down like a simp and got her to agree to 1. 5 k s / t. She was only worth 800 p imo.
Was a MILF about 31? Not a prize but doable and not sharky.
Sot, kissing, no rush bbfscip and she tried to upsell me for a tip. Then trike fare for the 2 block walk. . I told her some BS after some forgotten sob story she laid on me. LOL.
She thanked me when we parted outside my hotel. Wanted to know what I was doing later etc.
Can't wait to get out of this backward filthy sad overpriced hell hole.
Keen Eye Joe 1
06-29-25, 02:10
A buddy of mine just returned to Mindanao from an overseas vacation. Two weeks ago, he had a several hour layover in Manila before departing on the 11 pm flight to Bangkok. Terminal 3 is undergoing an extensive overhaul of the upper-level food hall area. So, in search of a Subway sandwich, he decided to make the short walk across the sky bridge which leads from Terminal 3 directly over to Newport City. Google Maps indicates this area contains many somewhat ritzy hotels, retail shops, and casinos, but I've never been motivated to visit.
While walking along Newport Boulevard in the early evening, he said he was approached by several streetwalkers, dressed in nice outfits and appropriate footwear. A couple were apparently quite insistent and persistent, and he mentioned they used the term "short time" in their pitch.
As he is happily married, he fended off the offerers without engaging in any meaningful dialogue. I didn't probe for additional details as I didn't want to reveal how much of a moral scuzzball I really am. I've always had an affection for sexily-dressed streetwalkers. They are easy to find in Tijuana and Mexico City but are rarely seen in the Philippines.
I did search this thread and did not find any informative posts. But I'm guessing there's someone here who has recent firsthand information about the area's scene. Price is not a big concern, but I'd prefer not to pay a hefty premium just because that area is upscale, with more affluent customers than the bars / clubs I normally frequent in the Manila area.
I'm sure there are a few working gals in the casinos, but my addictive personality avoids gambling at all costs, and I'm sure there's a dress code which keeps scruffy guys like me from entering.
In four weeks, I'll have a two-night layover in Manila. After my 10-day anticipated alcohol-fueled vacation in Bali, I'm not looking to hit any Manila bars, so I'm leaning toward booking a Newport City hotel and doing some SW reconnaissance.
MohdirFan82
06-29-25, 02:47
Not going into several pages of Essay about Pattaya vs Manila But in Pattaya standard rate for 5's, 6's is about 1500-2000. And the sex deal is very transparent standardized.
It's much easy to score 6's at reasonable rates; price goes up with quality in pattaya.
In Manila you might score 8+ for free or sometimes just Jollibee. There is no standard rate; prices are all over the place. For looks and body, I prefer Thais, but I love Philippines too.
You are making me feel that manila is better than pattaya.
Old And Ugly
06-29-25, 04:52
A buddy of mine just returned to Mindanao from an overseas vacation. Two weeks ago, he had a several hour layover in Manila before departing on the 11 pm flight to Bangkok. Terminal 3 is undergoing an extensive overhaul of the upper-level food hall area. So, in search of a Subway sandwich, he decided to make the short walk across the sky bridge which leads from Terminal 3 directly over to Newport City. Google Maps indicates this area contains many somewhat ritzy hotels, retail shops, and casinos, but I've never been motivated to visit.
While walking along Newport Boulevard in the early evening, he said he was approached by several streetwalkers, dressed in nice outfits and appropriate footwear. A couple were apparently quite insistent and persistent, and he mentioned they used the term "short time" in their pitch.
As he is happily married, he fended off the offerers without engaging in any meaningful dialogue. I didn't probe for additional details as I didn't want to reveal how much of a moral scuzzball I really am. I've always had an affection for sexily-dressed streetwalkers. They are easy to find in Tijuana and Mexico City but are rarely seen in the Philippines.
I did search this thread and did not find any informative posts. But I'm guessing there's someone here who has recent firsthand information about the area's scene. Price is not a big concern, but I'd prefer not to pay a hefty premium just because that area is upscale, with more affluent customers than the bars / clubs I normally frequent in the Manila area.
I'm sure there are a few working gals in the casinos, but my addictive personality avoids gambling at all costs, and I'm sure there's a dress code which keeps scruffy guys like me from entering.
In four weeks, I'll have a two-night layover in Manila. After my 10-day anticipated alcohol-fueled vacation in Bali, I'm not looking to hit any Manila bars, so I'm leaning toward booking a Newport City hotel and doing some SW reconnaissance.2 months ago I spent 2 nights in the Palm Tree Villas, which are suitable for mongering purposes since there is no reception, only some sort of admin desk, and hundreds of apartments. I been out on Newport St on both days eating and drinking, there are street vendors and restaurants, but I didn't see any street walkers. I was with my GF so I wasn't looking for any, but being a professional mongerer, something like that would had caught my eye. Maybe I was out at the wrong time, or outside their operating hours. However I saw plenty of good looking ones exiting and entering the Palm Tree Villas, or swimming in the pool, I don't know maybe they are living there, doing business there, or going back to the street to do some more walking.
If you're flying out of T3 this is a good place for a layover, no transportation needed, just walk across the pedestrian bridge, and if there are hookers, then it's even better.
WestCoast1
06-29-25, 22:52
Not going into several pages of Essay about Pattaya vs Manila But in Pattaya standard rate for 5's, 6's is about 1500-2000. 1500-2000 what? Baht? Peso?
MohdirFan82
06-30-25, 02:28
Thai Baht.
1500-2000 what? Baht? Peso?
WestCoast1
06-30-25, 04:12
Thai Baht.2600-4300 pesos. Bit high for 6's, even for touristicos, but not too far out of line.
Not going into several pages of Essay about Pattaya vs Manila But in Pattaya standard rate for 5's, 6's is about 1500-2000. I guess it depends on your definition of 5's and 6's, but I can easily get 7's for 1500 Baht in Pattaya. And sometimes an 8, but they are usually a bit more expensive. More towards 2000 Baht.
I'm talking about freelancers, not bar girls, and always for BBFS, usually with CIP, because I hate condoms.
Old And Ugly
06-30-25, 09:55
I guess it depends on your definition of 5's and 6's, but I can easily get 7's for 1500 Baht in Pattaya. And sometimes an 8, but they are usually a bit more expensive. More towards 2000 Baht.
I'm talking about freelancers, not bar girls, and always for BBFS, usually with CIP, because I hate condoms.Please give me some pointers, I'm in Pattaya right now. Where do you get them?
Please give me some pointers, I'm in Pattaya right now. Where do you get them?Thai Friendly. Buy a premium subscription for one month. It's 25 USD but well worth it, compared to the free version.
I can send you some recommendations by PM, if you like. But I will send profile ID's that you can only search for with a premium subscription.
However, I don't know how old you are, but quite a lot of girls in Thai Friendly have an age restriction.
But it's low season so it doesn't hurt to try even those girls.
You will need the app Line as well, to be able to communicate more in private with them.
Thai Friendly is officially a dating app for people who are looking for a serious relationship. Better not put texts like 'looking for freelancer' or 'looking for ST' in your profile. But in Pattaya you do not have to put any text at all in your profile, because the majority of the users there is freelancer.
Old And Ugly
06-30-25, 10:31
Thai Friendly. Buy a premium subscription for one month. It's 25 USD but well worth it, compared to the free version.
I can send you some recommendations by PM, if you like. But I will send profile ID's that you can only search for with a premium subscription.
However, I don't know how old you are, but quite a lot of girls in Thai Friendly have an age restriction.
But it's low season so it doesn't hurt to try even those girls.
You will need the app Line as well, to be able to communicate more in private with them.
Thai Friendly is officially a dating app for people who are looking for a serious relationship. Better not put texts like 'looking for freelancer' or 'looking for ST' in your profile. But in Pattaya you do not have to put any text at all in your profile, because the majority of the users there is freelancer.Thank You, I did it already, and yes, lots of them. I forgot about TF.
MohdirFan82
07-01-25, 02:49
If you are in Pattaya, go to Candy bar in Tree town right on the road.
You will surely find something for your liking.
Please give me some pointers, I'm in Pattaya right now. Where do you get them?
I guess it depends on your definition of 5's and 6's, but I can easily get 7's for 1500 Baht in Pattaya. And sometimes an 8, but they are usually a bit more expensive. More towards 2000 Baht.
I'm talking about freelancers, not bar girls, and always for BBFS, usually with CIP, because I hate condoms.Did you see any skinny ones with big tits? .
Old And Ugly
07-02-25, 04:48
If you are in Pattaya, go to Candy bar in Tree town right on the road.
You will surely find something for your liking.On the map I see one called Candy Club, is that the one?
Did you see any skinny ones with big tits? .I'm not specifically interested in big tits, so I'm usually not paying attention to that when I'm searching for girls in TF. A cute, little butt is much more important to me.
Here we go again.
3000 p all-nighter, and previous contact, lined up after the flight lands on Sunday.
No need to hit Burgos and dish out loads of cash on LD's and barfines etc.
Might have to feed her though.
_Phil.
No need to hit Burgos and dish out loads of cash on LD's and barfines etc.
Might have to feed her though.
_Phil.Splash the cash on a P120 Chicken Joy. Much better ROI than any investment fund. 🤣.
Enjoy. G.
Splash the cash on a P120 Chicken Joy. Much better ROI than any investment fund. 🤣.
Enjoy. G.This one's into Andoks chicken G, but it won't break the bank.
Cute thing who goes off like a mechanical bull.
No doubt reports will follow _ Phil.
This one's into Andoks chicken G, but it won't break the bank.
Cute thing who goes off like a mechanical bull..You are definitely upgrading with Andoks. I get them Chook's to go chicken. I have to repeat to only cut it into 8 pieces otherwise you will get 24 pieces. LOL.
ChatGPT is saying there are widespread female undercover cops posing as streetwalkers and as hookers on online sites. How true is this?
WestCoast1
07-05-25, 18:03
ChatGPT is saying there are widespread female undercover cops posing as streetwalkers and as hookers on online sites. How true is this?Not sure there's a good answer for this. ChatGPT as a news source? Did you find this on any pinoy news sites? Did the GPT specify any areas, such as AC, Burgos, or specific websites (escort vs dating sites, or Tinder)?
IndianTravel10
07-05-25, 18:52
I will be there for a 2-day layover (deliberately-chosen) on my way to Tokyo from India. Would like to explore little bit of Manali & Tangatay.
Also, would like to have some fun also. Will do read the forum as well & My PMs are open too.
Thank you!
I will be there for a 2-day layover (deliberately-chosen) on my way to Tokyo from India. Would like to explore little bit of Manali & Tangatay.
Also, would like to have some fun also. Will do read the forum as well & My PMs are open too.
Thank you!With only two days, just stay in Manila. You don't have time to travel elsewhere and then find and conquer girls.
No offense intended but your countrymen have not done you any favours. Many girls explicitly state that they don't want to meet Indians or at least ask nationality before meeting. I've had several girls want to see real time selfies saying that Indians post fake Caucasian photos.
I'm not aware of any Indian focussed bars or clubs like you find in Pattaya.
Be prepared to be on your best behaviour and splash some cash.
Enjoy. G.
ChatGPT is saying there are widespread female undercover cops posing as streetwalkers and as hookers on online sites. How true is this?Ask ChatGFT where to find real hookers without the undercovers.
Not sure there's a good answer for this. ChatGPT as a news source? Did you find this on any pinoy news sites? Did the GPT specify any areas, such as AC, Burgos, or specific websites (escort vs dating sites, or Tinder)?It mentioned Manila & Massage Republic specifically, though it didn't link any Pinoy news sites or specific stats. It said it usually has to do with kids and / or human trafficking, but if I were to come up on some streetwalkers in Quezon City and agree to a price, I was curious if anyone has seen anyone get arrested for that in a sting or get a cop show up from Massage Republic.
As an aside, Massage Republic's Seoul section is full of heckin' tranerinos. Is the Manila section that way or is it more reliable? Is there a better website for the Phils?
ChatGPT is saying there are widespread female undercover cops posing as streetwalkers and as hookers on online sites. How true is this?I don't know about undercover but many Asian police forces have very fuckable police women. Just as some guys get off on uniformed airline hosties, the same can be said for police women. Not exactly my scene but I've bumped into many criminology students over the years.
https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-oppo-terr1-rso2&sa=X&sca_esv=3e1e3b3b9ee4e26b&udm=2&fbs=AIIjpHyYzEGkr-KkdhTNDsbGd11PfMCIS5BCXbaQBnEVIDmSUQ0d4l4fW9kVv_oamMFYN4glpo83IRxGh4vdPDxOF_w42DFIo4bB1KR1YoemqU9HgCRYC06G0QpWL2Io0j9JVDyRZ1O0RvFS00gOw3Ik2bdyVOHaPAv5zRtjxlLoixumEvzCjAWOm8zYPawiQeMbaan1BltzlQ6mxbtwWGOCQeZfo5WPeF5kGfZ-5yeC3SBHWzUYatU&q=polwan&ved=2ahUKEwiV5L7TyqeOAxVvkVYBHXniFxwQtKgLegQIEhAB&biw=423&bih=810&dpr=1.7
I don't know about undercover but many Asian police forces have very fuckable police women. Just as some guys get off on uniformed airline hosties, the same can be said for police women. Not exactly my scene but I've bumped into many criminology students over the years.
https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-oppo-terr1-rso2&sa=X&sca_esv=3e1e3b3b9ee4e26b&udm=2&fbs=AIIjpHyYzEGkr-KkdhTNDsbGd11PfMCIS5BCXbaQBnEVIDmSUQ0d4l4fW9kVv_oamMFYN4glpo83IRxGh4vdPDxOF_w42DFIo4bB1KR1YoemqU9HgCRYC06G0QpWL2Io0j9JVDyRZ1O0RvFS00gOw3Ik2bdyVOHaPAv5zRtjxlLoixumEvzCjAWOm8zYPawiQeMbaan1BltzlQ6mxbtwWGOCQeZfo5WPeF5kGfZ-5yeC3SBHWzUYatU&q=polwan&ved=2ahUKEwiV5L7TyqeOAxVvkVYBHXniFxwQtKgLegQIEhAB&biw=423&bih=810&dpr=1.7There are DEFINITELY fuckable cops in Korea. I'm mostly a massage parlor kind of guy and occasional RLD when I'm in Korea, especially since my one attempt on MR ended up being a Mr. I feel like I have a sixth sense when I'm in Korea and Singapore and can monger with no worries in those countries, but I'm trying to get a lay of the land in the Phils before I get there. I was surprised ChatGPT said stings, undercover cops, and arrests were so common because there's so many streetwalkers out in the open on YouTube videos. I was already worried about transgenders on MR even before AI said it's full of cops.
Ask ChatGFT where to find real hookers without the undercovers.PMSL, now that's funny.
G.
, but I'm trying to get a lay of the land in the Phils before I get there. I was surprised ChatGPT said stings, undercover cops, and arrests were so common because there's so many streetwalkers out in the open on YouTube videos. I was already worried about transgenders on MR even before AI said it's full of cops.On a serious note, a few guys have been in the wrong place at the wrong time when bars have been raided but I have never heard of anyone getting busted for picking up freelancers or street walkers by undercover female police officers.
Trans are a risk on hookup sites or the street. That's why everyone recommends doing due diligence before having them come to your room. Bars and online brothels are normally forthcoming on genders.
I think you may be over thinking everything and overly cautious. Just take normal precautions and go have some fun.
G.
WestCoast1
07-06-25, 21:04
It mentioned Manila & Massage Republic specifically, though it didn't link any Pinoy news sites or specific stats. It said it usually has to do with kids and / or human trafficking, but if I were to come up on some streetwalkers in Quezon City and agree to a price, I was curious if anyone has seen anyone get arrested for that in a sting or get a cop show up from Massage Republic.
Thanks. Have never heard of these stings.
Old And Ugly
07-06-25, 23:05
I don't know about undercover but many Asian police forces have very fuckable police women. Just as some guys get off on uniformed airline hosties, the same can be said for police women. Not exactly my scene but I've bumped into many criminology students over the years.
............................................I did have a few stewardesses from CP in the past, they prefer a nice hotel room over the boarding houses paid by the airline, a nice dinner in a restaurant, and maybe a parting gift.
WestCoast1
07-08-25, 17:12
Too much talk of police stings. Not enough pics. Sorry this one's a bit blurry. Happy bar pickup in Manila.
On the map I see one called Candy Club, is that the one?I'm going to try it when I go there next month, buddy! Cheers!
I did have a few stewardesses from CP in the past, they prefer a nice hotel room over the boarding houses paid by the airline, a nice dinner in a restaurant, and maybe a parting gift.What's the practicalities of this? How did you make it happen?
I've asked a couple of cute checkin girls but they recoiled in horror due to 1000 eyes watching us. I've often thought that it would have been better to slip them a written note.
Stewardesses sound good but they are either 1/ busy working on the plane or 2/ running through the airport to get the taxi. It's only the long haul flights where they get a break and time to chat / exchange details.
Enjoy. G.
Old And Ugly
07-09-25, 09:41
What's the practicalities of this? How did you make it happen?
I've asked a couple of cute checkin girls but they recoiled in horror due to 1000 eyes watching us. I've often thought that it would have been better to slip them a written note.
Stewardesses sound good but they are either 1/ busy working on the plane or 2/ running through the airport to get the taxi. It's only the long haul flights where they get a break and time to chat / exchange details.
Enjoy. G.Practicality? I don't know, just mongering. This was in AC.
Was late at night, I was sitting in the back, with no people around me, I ordered something, so I got to chit chat, I knew where they were going to sleep, because I used to have an apartment across the street from their dormitory on 3rd street behind Jocson College and I just asked directly if she wants to stay at my place, she said to wait for her at the blue taxis. I had inside intel about the inner workings of the company from a future stewardess that was staying there while in college and I was bedding before she transferred to Manila.
Late at night after the last flight, you see them walking on Red St, still in the uniform (the luggage is limited for them too) and another time at McD I saw one that I recognized from the flight, together with her colleague, I said that I recognize them from the flight, and I invited them to have dinner at a better place, and we went to Al Bacio, afterwards the one I recognized said that she's tired and left and the other one that wasn't so hot, but fuckable wanted to go to Megadance, the place was empty, because was too early, so we ended up at my place, I was staying at Royal Amsterdam. She left early in the morning because her bags were at the dorm.
I kept in touch with them, but we never had matching schedules for a while, then it just faded away.
Also if you hang around the Jocson College at the corner of 1st and (C), in the late afternoon, or at lunch time, the flight school students come out to eat or to go home.
This one's into Andoks chicken G, but it won't break the bank. Cute thing who goes off like a mechanical bull. No doubt reports will follow _ Phil.
Splash the cash on a P120 Chicken Joy. Much better ROI than any investment fund. 🤣. Enjoy. G.
Here we go again.
3000 p all-nighter, and previous contact, lined up after the flight lands on Sunday.
No need to hit Burgos and dish out loads of cash on LD's and barfines etc.
Might have to feed her though.
_Phil.Hi Guys,
Sorry for the delay, but yes, arrived in Manila a week ago and have had issues with wifi on the ass / arse end of that typhoon, and I've been a little pre-occupied, if you know what I mean.
(More about that in the Subic forum).
Anyway, the freelancer contact worked out to be spot-on upon arrival.
A six hour stay with multiple shots for 3 k.
Silly thing forgot to bring 'official' ID to the City Garden. So that took a little bit of negotiating, but thankfully a had a security guy I've met previously help me out.
Just had to sign a waiver claiming that I'd accept all responsibility if she stole anything basically.
PS_ And I didn't have to feed her in the end either, apart from a packet of peanuts. Very good value for money.
_ Phil.
I'm planning a visit to MNL. My strategy is to stay in BGC but visit LA Cafe. I don't really want to bring a girl back to BGC, so I'm planning to grab a hotel somewhere nearby the cafe for a few hours. I'd like to book it myself beforehand, rather than let the girl drive the matter. Recommendations? Room quality and proximity are priorities. TIA!
After departing Subic this morning I hit Manila, and this time had decided to stay close to LA Cafe, as I've been to Manila so many times, but have never ventured there.
I booked into the Bayview Park Hotel and walked to a big mall about a kilometer away. Within the time of leaving Subic and getting to the mall, I would have had about 30 messages on Pina love. At the mall, I had something to eat and checked the messages. One particular girl caught my eye. Cute, 27 and very straight forward it turns out.
I messaged her when I got back to my room and within half an hour, she was on her way.
She got into the hotel without a hitch and when I opened the door she looked just like her pics and super cute.
After a fairly brief introduction, she said, "So are we just going to sit here and talk?. ".
While I took a shower she sat on the toilet soaping her vag and rinsing it off with the spray gun beside the shitter. There's something new I see every time I visit this country!
"Condom or no condom?
Well that's another first, having a choice in the matter.
Now, I'm a bit apprehensive about jumping into the sack without negotiating a price beforehand, in case she turns into a train wreck when I won't pay her the 10,000 she's demanding.
But there wasn't a choice this time around.
She was straight into delivering a BJ and after a recovery break, she wanted it from behind.
We ducked downstairs as she wanted a smoke and getting her back in was looking a little tricky. The security guys said she had to be gone by 10 pm as a visitor. I explained I'd booked a room for two, for three days, and she was my other half. Eventually the front desk staff relented, although she couldn't have the free breakfast of a morning. Fine by me. (Memo. You could be disappointed with the guest policy at this hotel if you get the wrong staff on duty).
Anyway, we had another session before I raised the topic of payment.
"So how much do you want?
"I'm not too sure, you tell me".
I thought about the fact she was pretty hot, was damn good in bed and was prepared to spend my finals days here with me until I leave for that midnight flight out on Saturday.
"How does 4000 p a day sound?
"Thank you so much. My mother's sick in hospital and I need the money. ".
Looks like I still won't get to LA Cafe.
_Phil.
WestCoast1
07-19-25, 03:25
Former Burgos gogo gal who "cheat the bar" with me a couple dozen times. A nawty, horny thing, who never met a d*ck she didn't like. This second preggers took her out of the bar, but not away from me. Elastic minus stretch marks.
WestCoast1
07-23-25, 06:47
I'm planning a visit to MNL. My strategy is to stay in BGC but visit LA Cafe. I don't really want to bring a girl back to BGC, so I'm planning to grab a hotel somewhere nearby the cafe for a few hours. I'd like to book it myself beforehand, rather than let the girl drive the matter. Recommendations? Room quality and proximity are priorities. TIA!Sorry nobody got back with you on this. The phone's been ringin' off the hook. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. There used to be a short time hotel right next door to LA Cafe (now known as Midnight Haven). Not sure if its still in operation. In the pic, its up the stairs next to the girl in the black pants. Can't remember the name of the place and I never used it. Others mentioned it. Brickstone? Don't know the cost or quality.
Sorry nobody got back with you on this. The phone's been ringin' off the hook. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. There used to be a short time hotel right next door to LA Cafe (now known as Midnight Haven). Not sure if its still in operation. In the pic, its up the stairs next to the girl in the black pants. Can't remember the name of the place and I never used it. Others mentioned it. Brickstone? Don't know the cost or quality.I can confirm that it was open in March. If I remember correctly, it's 600 pesos for short time. Quality and cleanliness is OK for that price.
I'm planning a visit to MNL. My strategy is to stay in BGC but visit LA Cafe. I don't really want to bring a girl back to BGC, so I'm planning to grab a hotel somewhere nearby the cafe for a few hours. I'd like to book it myself beforehand, rather than let the girl drive the matter. Recommendations? Room quality and proximity are priorities. TIA!Although this hotel is not a short time place, the Duck Inn, 3 blocks north of LA, might suit your purposes. All the bargirls in the area know the hotel, so, I doubt that management would bat an eye. And, also, it is not a bad choice in general: Aussie owned and has a nice bar and resto.
WestCoast1
07-24-25, 13:51
Although this hotel is not a short time place, the Duck Inn, 3 blocks north of LA, might suit your purposes. All the bargirls in the area know the hotel, so, I doubt that management would bat an eye. And, also, it is not a bad choice in general: Aussie owned and has a nice bar and resto.Good call DW. Have stayed there numerous times, usually for 1-3 nights for a short layover. Downside: All rooms are above the ground floor, and its a staircase (no elevator). Downstairs is a decent bar / resto, often times has live band (downside: can be noisy into the night). Discount for cash payment.
Former Burgos gogo gal who "cheat the bar" with me a couple dozen times. A nawty, horny thing, who never met a d*ck she didn't like. This second preggers took her out of the bar, but not away from me. Elastic minus stretch marks.I have a 7 month lined up for next month. Yikes, she will be 8 months then!
Transporter
07-24-25, 19:31
Hmm. I'm old and my memory is not as good as it use to be, but I remember it as Ugly Duck. Looks to be the same place. It was a good bar to hang out, steady flow of working girls. But then again that was a while back when gpoint and amazonia also had a steady flow of working girls hanging in the bar. In any case the place is cheap to stay, and short walking distance to other attractions.
I haven't been to the Philippines in five years but plan to come back in October. Is the EDSA complex still open. I remember going in and it had like five deferent bars in one place. It was always hit and miss but was a fun time.
WestCoast1
07-25-25, 01:12
I haven't been to the Philippines in five years but plan to come back in October. Is the EDSA complex still open. I remember going in and it had like five deferent bars in one place. It was always hit and miss but was a fun time.Closed during covid, and never came back to life.
WestCoast1
07-26-25, 08:53
Midnight haven gal who I hadn't seen since pre-covid. Mid-30's now, but skinny self rocks on. Good to catch up with an old friend.
Keen Eye Joe 1
07-29-25, 04:35
Historically, the Robinson's Mall on the border between Ermita and Malate has consistently had sex sellers hanging out on the main level near the Pedro Gil entrance. But I've noticed on my last 20 visits since the Pandemic ended, there are now very few obvious ones standing around the rotunda area by the Krispy Kreme.
For the first time in over a year, I recently spotted and chatted with Victoria, a short-haired chubby mall pimp who has been operating there for many years. She says the scarcity is due to both a crackdown by mall security and that many women want to stay home and wait for an appointment than standing around the mall all day in uncomfortable footwear. Makes sense.
She showed me pictures of a couple of her gals, who looked okay to me. P3,000 for two hours. But I like checking out the goods before committing, so I passed.
I've always been a streetwalker fan. Unfortunately, the Manila metropolitan area has very few areas to find them.
I am aware of only three locations where they hang out during the day. Gateway Mall in Cubao (my report posted in the Quezon City section), Rizal Avenue in Carriedo, and along the south side of Recto Avenue in front of the Isetann Store / mall (just to the east of LRT-2's Recto Station).
As I had plenty of time to kill on Sunday morning, I decided to go foreigner food shopping in Cubao. Rode the LRT 1 north from United Nations to the Carriedo Station and strolled north down Rizal Avenue to check out the hookers. Plenty of gals out at 11 am but the quality was just pitiful, as always.
Turned at the Rizal / Recto Avenue intersection and walked east toward the Recto Station. Just to the east of the station is a large mall containing an Isetann Department Store. The SWs hang out outside the main entrance and along the sidewalk to the east. Normally there are a couple of younger gals, and once in a while I see one that appears way too young.
This was my first visit on a weekend morning (11 am), and I was pleasantly surprised by the numbers and the age / quality. There were a couple of old and corpulent hags, but I'd estimate there were around 8 girls in their late teens to early 20's in age. 2 groups of two, the rest were standing alone. Five of them merited ratings of at least 5-6 (high for Philippine streetwalkers). And no visible tattoos. Never before have I seen such attractive women in that area.
I stopped to chat with one gal who smiled shyly at me. 20 years old, cute, and thin. P1,500 for short time. She agreed to full service, including kissing. Sealed the deal with a handshake, then walked to the nearby Sogo hotel for a short-time room.
In the room she was initially a bit reserved, as she admitted I was her first foreigner customer. Appeared to loosen up a bit when I removed the condom from my wallet. As we laid together naked under the bedsheet, she opened up that she was a university student and came there on the weekends to earn spending money. I mentioned she could earn more if she marketed herself online to foreigners, but she was comfortable laying low and hanging out in that area.
Stands to reason that the other gals were students as well. Lucky me. I'll definitely be revisiting the Isetann store on weekend mornings in the future.
If any of you guys are into threesomes, perhaps you might get lucky with one of the duos standing together.
Later that night, I shared a beer with one of the 50 year-old well-worn dragons that wait for foreigner customers at the G-Point bar in Ermita. After telling her my tale, she said, "that area is only for Filipino customers who only pay Filipino prices". When I asked her price, she said P4,000 for short time. I replied with, "Good luck to you".
As I've iterated many times on this board, if you want to find a bargain, you have to go outside the foreigner-centric areas.
Final note: East of the Rizal / Recto Avenue intersection, there are a couple of beer bars on the south side of Recto before you get to the LRT station. Stopped on the way back and had an afternoon beer for P100 and bought a couple of P280 lady's drinks for a friendly and smiley 40 year-old in a cute outfit who spoke perfect English. She asked if I wanted to go upstairs to one of the private rooms, but I declined and said maybe tomorrow. Didn't ask about her short-time sex price because I didn't care.
Historically, the Robinson's Mall on the border between Ermita and Malate has consistently had sex sellers hanging out on the main level near the Pedro Gil entrance.
I've always been a streetwalker fan.Great report Joe.
I've had some great times with the street walkers over the years.
As for Robinson's, I was there just over a week ago and didn't expect to be approached.
However within minutes of finding out how to get out of the huge place, I was approached by two girls within five minutes.
One was a definite no, the other, yes, I would have.
However, I'd already lined up some Pina Love talent and had to return to my room to meet her for our second night a little later on.
So yes, you will get approached there, but you're right in reporting that the security guys move you and the girl down the road fairly quickly.
Great info for future reference.
_ Phil.
WestCoast1
08-03-25, 01:52
Good morning gents. Manila is an amazing place. This happy, booby chocolate drop was referred to me under the "Philippines Friends & Family" plan. Everyone should sign up. Enjoy.
Good morning gents. Manila is an amazing place. This happy, booby chocolate drop was referred to me under the "Philippines Friends & Family" plan. Everyone should sign up. Enjoy.The Friends and Family Program is great in PH. So far my top hand is 3 sisters and a pair of twins. Also not in the top hand is a separate sister to the twins. 8 cousins in one tree. 18 from one province tree.
How's everyone else's count?
Gen X Baer
08-03-25, 07:45
Good morning gents. Manila is an amazing place. This happy, booby chocolate drop was referred to me under the "Philippines Friends & Family" plan. Everyone should sign up. Enjoy.Ooh she's got a great set of melons it appears?
Have any that flaunts those coconuts?
WestCoast1
08-05-25, 01:22
Ooh she's got a great set of melons it appears?
Have any that flaunts those coconuts?I'll check and get back to you on that.
There is an alternative to Grab at T3. Super Taxi aka JoyRide has a kiosk next to Grab at arrivals. No waiting. Book your ride with a real person at the kiosk and the driver is right there at the kiosk to walk you to the taxi. To BGC in the afternoon was P540. Great service and easy booking right there. They offer a discounted return fare back to the airport. They only offer airport to destination and destination to airport service.
I don't know where the White and Yellow taxis have been banished to but no where in sight at arrivals.
BTW, I saw a sign free inter terminal transfers every 15 minutes.
As I had plenty of time to kill on Sunday morning, I decided to go foreigner food shopping in Cubao. Rode the LRT 1 north from United Nations to the Carriedo Station and strolled north down Rizal Avenue to check out the hookers. Plenty of gals out at 11 am but the quality was just pitiful, as always.
Turned at the Rizal / Recto Avenue intersection and walked east toward the Recto Station. Just to the east of the station is a large mall containing an Isetann Department Store. The SWs hang out outside the main entrance and along the sidewalk to the east. Normally there are a couple of younger gals, and once in a while I see one that appears way too young.Whenever I go slumming in that neighborhood, I always look around the corner of McDo's to the west at the corner of Rizal and Recto. That is where I have found the 7's in that area, and frankly, you'll do no better than that. I mostly see well worn middle aged housewives looking for pesos to catch up on their back payments of one type or another. I prefer the Spring Hotel on Rizal to do the deed which is a nicer place imo.
Keen Eye Joe 1
08-07-25, 12:07
Whenever I go slumming in that neighborhood, I always look around the corner of McDo's to the west at the corner of Rizal and Recto. That is where I have found the 7's in that area, and frankly, you'll do no better than that. I mostly see well worn middle aged housewives looking for pesos to catch up on their back payments of one type or another. I prefer the Spring Hotel on Rizal to do the deed which is a nicer place imo.I appreciate the info, as I've never walked along Recto Avenue to the west of McDonalds. Will check out the Spring Hotel when I'm back in September and can find a suitable short-time paramour.
Was wondering if you've ever surveyed the area in the evenings? As it's a bit of a downtrodden area, it has the potential to be a bit hazardous under the cloak of darkness and I'm an obvious Amerikano. And would you estimate there's an appreciable difference in the numbers and the quality of ladies compared to the daytime?
Good morning gents. Manila is an amazing place. This happy, booby chocolate drop was referred to me under the "Philippines Friends & Family" plan. Everyone should sign up. Enjoy.Hi, how does one sign up for the "Philippines Friends & Family" plan?
I don't know where the White and Yellow taxis have been banished to but no where in sight at arrivals. BTW, I saw a sign free inter terminal transfers every 15 minutes.Hi Dg,
It changes on every arrival for me at terminal 1. I'm glad the white taxis have gone in a way ie: always no English, no meter etc. The yellows still exist. There's a kiosk amongst the mayhem when you cross the road and to the left as soon as you walk out of arrivals. They make a few calls and a yellow cab will appear after a few minutes. They are getting expensive though. Looks like the authorities are trying to get regular taxis out of the airports and it's useless asking anyone in uniform where to find one. The 15 min terminal transfer bus has been about for ages, but they still have the habit of waiting for it to fill up before taking off at times.
_ Phil.
Hi, how does one sign up for the "Philippines Friends & Family" plan?Hi PG,
I'm sure Westie could give you a detailed answer, but my approach and interpretation is bypassing the regular bar route and opting for referrals with locals or hooking up with friends or family of someone you meet. Ie: the taxi driver, hotel security etc. Enjoy!
_Phil.
WestCoast1
08-08-25, 17:05
Hi, how does one sign up for the "Philippines Friends & Family" plan?Steps as follows:
1) You come across a girl who you consider of some good quality. 2) As you are paying her, you ask if she has any attractive friends, cousins, or sisters (don't be afraid to specify an age). 3) Later, an attractive friend / fam contacts you for a similar situation. If the new friend / fam girl is of quality, lather / rinse / repeat. You are now on the plan.
Or:
1) You take one for the team, and have a so-so-looking gal. Or a skank. You know, the kind who has a SKANK QUOTIENT*. 2) As you are paying her, you mention you might pay more for a hottie with no such quotient, and you exchange numbers. 3) Later, the attractive friend / fam contacts you for a similar situation. If the new friend / fam girl is of quality, lather / rinse / repeat. You are now on the plan.
Or:
1) Your taxi driver asks if you have an asawa (wife / partner). You reply you are new in town (or alternately, just broke up with your GF), and you are looking for a girl. 2) The driver says he has a cousin (or such). 3) You specify what you are looking for (age, looks). 4) Later, an attractive lass contacts you. 5) If the girl is of quality, lather / rinse / repeat. 6) Don't forget to tip your cabbie, and mention to the girl that you are looking for similar lasses. You are now on the plan.
Or:
1) Out of the blue, a girl contacts you thru txt or in FB, suggesting a meetup. You end up vid-calling her, and she's a beauty. 2) You end up sessioning. You ask how she got your number or FB account and she says Sheila gave it to her. 3) You banged Sheila a few nights prior. 4) Congratulations, you didn't sign up for the plan, but you are now on the plan.
* SQ = Number of missing teeth divided by number of tatoos (that's the chismosa). Its a bit like Avogadro's constant (I heard that, too, while drinking Red Horse).
All such plan members should remember to buy Westie a drink when in town.
CageMonkey
08-08-25, 17:15
I have found a guest friendly condo with easy waking distance of Midnight (La Cafe) Haven. I also found another one, less expensive on the south end of Burgos, right next to the filling station. Now, my game is mostly online dating and Facebook walkers. Which one is easier for girls to come to you. MH (Midnight Haven) and Burgos both have 24 hour access to women but I think MH will have more selection and better prices? I need this for when my plans for the evening fall through and I need a backup. I will be in the area for almost 3 months so I can work the long game beginning January.
I have found a guest friendly condo with easy waking distance of Midnight (La Cafe) Haven. I also found another one, less expensive on the south end of Burgos, right next to the filling station. Now, my game is mostly online dating and Facebook walkers. Which one is easier for girls to come to you. MH (Midnight Haven) and Burgos both have 24 hour access to women but I think MH will have more selection and better prices? I need this for when my plans for the evening fall through and I need a backup. I will be in the area for almost 3 months so I can work the long game beginning January.I've stayed on Burgos for a night or two and it was great fun but 3 months would do my head in. Too much of a good thing.
It also leaves nothing to the imagination as to why you are in town and may actually scare some girls away. Many semi pros or good girls would be very reluctant to come meet you there, especially at night.
Enjoy. G.
Locamotive
08-08-25, 20:54
Hi Dg,
It changes on every arrival for me at terminal 1. I'm glad the white taxis have gone in a way ie: always no English, no meter etc. The yellows still exist. There's a kiosk amongst the mayhem when you cross the road and to the left as soon as you walk out of arrivals. They make a few calls and a yellow cab will appear after a few minutes. They are getting expensive though. Looks like the authorities are trying to get regular taxis out of the airports and it's useless asking anyone in uniform where to find one. The 15 min terminal transfer bus has been about for ages, but they still have the habit of waiting for it to fill up before taking off at times..Tip. Yeah the taxi thing is getting worse. No matter the color of the Taxi I negotiate price before we begin, don't believe the Ill run the meter crap. City Garden area in Makati with meter is 275 to 325 depending on traffic when I can get one to use the meter. I offer 500,if no takers I wait. Tell them to take the Skyway if your going in the direction of Makati, its quicker but you'll need to pay the toll of 50 p. Last time I did pay 600 p as we were very late and I was beat and few taxis around. Be cautious and smart if you act like you know the ropes it helps.
Hi, how does one sign up for the "Philippines Friends & Family" plan?Westie gave you a comprehensive Friends and Family plan.
My basic rule is it has to start with a girl who you have fuxk before. From her you get referrals for her friends or her family. There on you get referrals from them. Each one starts a tree or branch. A friend could bring in family members of which they can refer family and friends. So far I have 4 trees of 3 sisters with branches of there cousins and friends. One was a pair of twins and a sister, other than them this branch has been empty. However they were referred to me by a girl who has already referred 8 others to me.
My FnF plan has never involved anyone else outside of a bedded girl. How ever you can devise your own rules. Upon landing in AC on my last trip I had 8 new referral awaiting me. Prior to arrival I had pictures of the girls sent to me. 3 had been texting me before I landed.
It is fun to see how the trees and branches grow.
Asian Rain
08-09-25, 14:43
This was my first visit on a weekend morning (11 am), and I was pleasantly surprised by the numbers and the age / quality. There were a couple of old and corpulent hags, but I'd estimate there were around 8 girls in their late teens to early 20's in age. 2 groups of two, the rest were standing alone. Five of them merited ratings of at least 5-6 (high for Philippine streetwalkers). And no visible tattoos. Never before have I seen such attractive women in that area.
I stopped to chat with one gal who smiled shyly at me. 20 years old, cute, and thin. P1,500 for short time. She agreed to full service, including kissing. Sealed the deal with a handshake, then walked to the nearby Sogo hotel for a short-time room.
In the room she was initially a bit reserved, as she admitted I was her first foreigner customer. Appeared to loosen up a bit when I removed the condom from my wallet. As we laid together naked under the bedsheet, she opened up that she was a university student and came there on the weekends to earn spending money. I mentioned she could earn more if she marketed herself online to foreigners, but she was comfortable laying low and hanging out in that area.
Stands to reason that the other gals were students as well. Lucky me. I'll definitely be revisiting the Isetann store on weekend mornings in the future.Excellent report. I have been to the main area in the past and had given up due to the poor quality (old hags says it well) of talent. The existence of the better quality young providers near Isetann was welcome news. Are they out only on Sundays? Or out at other days and times?
Assuming these girls have smartphones, it would be highly advisable to get the contacts of any quality-looking provider in the area. Not only for later hookups, but also for the likelihood that they have other friends or (even better) classmates who are willing to walk with a long nose for cash. At these prices, it is easy to motivate with a P500 note for introductions. This is how I had built my pimpette networks in the day. Again, thanks for sharing. Enjoy Manila, AR.
WestCoast1
08-09-25, 16:03
Westie gave you a comprehensive Friends and Family plan.
My basic rule is it has to start with a girl who you have fuxk before. From her you get referrals for her friends or her family. There on you get referrals from them. Each one starts a tree or branch. A friend could bring in family members of which they can refer family and friends. So far I have 4 trees of 3 sisters with branches of there cousins and friends. One was a pair of twins and a sister, other than them this branch has been empty. However they were referred to me by a girl who has already referred 8 others to me.Forgot to mention the hotel security guard might be able to put you with a honey (his cousin, neighbor, etc). Then you are probably on his FnF plan.
* SQ = Number of missing teeth divided by number of tatoos (that's the chismosa). Its a bit like Avogadro's constant (I heard that, too, while drinking Red Horse).
All such plan members should remember to buy Westie a drink when in town.I have enough problems when my girls get on the Red Horse Westie.
But I'll definitely buy you one if ever we cross paths.
_Phil.
CageMonkey
08-09-25, 17:48
I've stayed on Burgos for a night or two and it was great fun but 3 months would do my head in. Too much of a good thing.
It also leaves nothing to the imagination as to why you are in town and may actually scare some girls away. Many semi pros or good girls would be very reluctant to come meet you there, especially at night.
Enjoy. G.I tend to after awhile gather a collection 5-6 girls whom I see on a regular rotation. This takes time especially since I am picky. Also, I am avoiding Wisconsin winters. I do plan on traveling a little bit around and use Manila as a base. Cost is about the same but hassle is less to just maintain it. This is also not my first rodeo, so to speak. I spent a month in DR two years ago and three years ago, two months in Colombia. Even when I am not with the girls, I always find ways to entertaining myself as long as I have internet and a computer.
Got an award trip to Taipei (only SE Asian city offered on award sale) for next month and am trying to decide between Thailand and the PI for the onward destination. Is the scene at Greenbelt 3 on Friday and Saturday nights still going? Am familiar with a lot of the other places in Manila from many previous trips, but this one was nice (from 10 pm Onward) but I know pretty fragile. What are FLs asking these days? Last visit was 2023.
Got an award trip to Taipei (only SE Asian city offered on award sale) for next month and am trying to decide between Thailand and the PI for the onward destination. Is the scene at Greenbelt 3 on Friday and Saturday nights still going? Am familiar with a lot of the other places in Manila from many previous trips, but this one was nice (from 10 pm Onward) but I know pretty fragile. What are FLs asking these days? Last visit was 2023.Mate, from multiple recent visits, I don't believe so.
Then again, others may have had some luck.
I've found the decent FL girls are turning to Pina Love and online options to source their clients. At least that's what they've told me.
_ Just my experience _ Phil.
Mate, from multiple recent visits, I don't believe so.
Then again, others may have had some luck.
I've found the decent FL girls are turning to Pina Love and online options to source their clients. At least that's what they've told me.
_ Just my experience _ Phil.Correct on both counts.
Havana has been closed for years and GB3 is more of an upscale area to take a girl to for a nice meal, movie etc rather than a pick up area.
Open Pinalove and I'm not exaggerating that 90% of the girls are from Makati / Manila area. The vast majority are happy to drop around at short notice or, worst case, after meeting for a coffee. I don't do ST but LT is 4 to 5 k with stunners / dreamers trying their luck for 7 or 8 k.
Enjoy. G.
P.S. For the budget conscious in search of a quick release, the best value for money is still Burgos street walkers for 1500 to 2000. Of course, one needs to seek out the diamonds in the rough and have the gaydar set to high.
G.
For reference, I'm a 24 year old guy going to visit Philippines for the first time. I'll stay for about a week or so. I haven't decided when, but I'm thinking anytime between September to October. Flights are reasonably priced. I plan on getting Visa on Arrival. I've been reading through this forum but can't decide whether to go to Manila or Angeles City. So, I need help deciding that. In the states, I use dating apps but don't really get many hits. I've read about PinaLove but I haven't downloaded it. I want to get as many girls as possible within that week. Also, having sex without condom is on my bucket list, LOL. In the States, I get the low income girls (usually restaurant / retail workers or unemployed) who I'm afraid to go raw with because I work at a big tech company and if I get any of these pregnant, they might keep the baby and I'll be done for (big child support payment you know haha). Any advice on where to pick up girls, which hotels to stay at, the cost of things, areas / things to avoid, or anything else will be much appreciated. Thanks.
Old And Ugly
08-14-25, 21:41
For reference, I'm a 24 year old guy going to visit Philippines for the first time. I'll stay for about a week or so. I haven't decided when, but I'm thinking anytime between September to October. Flights are reasonably priced. I plan on getting Visa on Arrival. I've been reading through this forum but can't decide whether to go to Manila or Angeles City. So, I need help deciding that. In the states, I use dating apps but don't really get many hits. I've read about PinaLove but I haven't downloaded it. I want to get as many girls as possible within that week. Also, having sex without condom is on my bucket list, LOL. In the States, I get the low income girls (usually restaurant / retail workers or unemployed) who I'm afraid to go raw with because I work at a big tech company and if I get any of these pregnant, they might keep the baby and I'll be done for (big child support payment you know haha). Any advice on where to pick up girls, which hotels to stay at, the cost of things, areas / things to avoid, or anything else will be much appreciated. Thanks.Even worse here, if you get any girl pregnant in the PH, she has no other choice but to keep the baby. If you work hard you can create about 20 offsprings in the one week period. Our days everybody can be tracked across borders and overseas, you will not be totally immune.
Even worse here, if you get any girl pregnant in the PH, she has no other choice but to keep the baby. If you work hard you can create about 20 offsprings in the one week period. Our days everybody can be tracked across borders and overseas, you will not be totally immune.Lmao, you got a valid point but I'm willing to take that risk. I rather get a ho pregnant in Philippines than in the US.
WestCoast1
08-15-25, 01:35
Any advice on where to pick up girls, which hotels to stay at, the cost of things, areas / things to avoid, or anything else will be much appreciated. Thanks.
Lmao, you got a valid point but I'm willing to take that risk. I rather get a ho pregnant in Philippines than in the US.These two items are a bit paradoxical. 'Pick up girls' and 'get a ho' can be fairly different. You mentioned retail workers and such, but didn't mention money. The later (ho) would indicate a bargirl approach in Phils.
Just choose one of the places: Makati / Burgos (gogo bars), or the AC Walking / Red St gogo bars. You will be awash in poon.
because I work at a big tech company and if I get any of these pregnant, they might keep the baby and I'll be done for (big child support payment you know haha)Not really. Raising ninyos in Phils is relatively cheap, compared to your home country, especially given your salary. Also the ho's you mentioned would never have any idea who fathered the child (they bareback multiple times per week for a living).
I've been reading through this forum but can't decide whether to go to Manila or Angeles City. So, I need help deciding that.A topic covered many times on the Phils forums. RTTF. Just pick one, and research the differences in price (covered on this board multiple times). We have a 'Search' function in the upper-right corner of every page on ISG.
A topic covered many times on the Phils forums. RTTF. Just pick one, and research the differences in price (covered on this board multiple times). Or be a big boy and just turn up. If it's great, stay. If not, go elsewhere.
Just because I have written good reviews for a girl or city, doesn't meant that everyone else will like them. Sure, use others' info as a guide but I'd never rely on it 100%, regardless of how well meaning it is.
Enjoy. G.
Customs have removed the scanning of QR codes from the Green Lane at NAIA arrivals.
You could still get a random one though according to the news item.
https://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/national/customs-suspends-green-lane-qr-scanning-to-speed-up-travel-processing/ar-AA1KvYot?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&cvid=714db6920a074dccbcf426e689256a9d&ei=11
Transporter
08-15-25, 11:08
For reference, I'm a 24 year old guy going to visit Philippines for the first time. I'll stay for about a week or so. I haven't decided when, but I'm thinking anytime between September to October. Flights are reasonably priced. I plan on getting Visa on Arrival. I've been reading through this forum but can't decide whether to go to Manila or Angeles City. So, I need help deciding that. In the states, I use dating apps but don't really get many hits. I've read about PinaLove but I haven't downloaded it. I want to get as many girls as possible within that week. Also, having sex without condom is on my bucket list, LOL. In the States, I get the low income girls (usually restaurant / retail workers or unemployed) who I'm afraid to go raw with because I work at a big tech company and if I get any of these pregnant, they might keep the baby and I'll be done for (big child support payment you know haha). Any advice on where to pick up girls, which hotels to stay at, the cost of things, areas / things to avoid, or anything else will be much appreciated. Thanks.For first time I'd say just go to AC. Its point and shoot all drop down menus user friendly. If you book at someplace like central park you will be right there where all the action is. Pretty much just walk outside and grab something.
Exoticspirit
08-15-25, 12:32
For reference, I'm a 24 year old guy going to visit Philippines for the first time. I'll stay for about a week or so. I haven't decided when, but I'm thinking anytime between September to October. Flights are reasonably priced. I plan on getting Visa on Arrival. I've been reading through this forum but can't decide whether to go to Manila or Angeles City. So, I need help deciding that. In the states, I use dating apps but don't really get many hits. I've read about PinaLove but I haven't downloaded it. I want to get as many girls as possible within that week. Also, having sex without condom is on my bucket list, LOL. In the States, I get the low income girls (usually restaurant / retail workers or unemployed) who I'm afraid to go raw with because I work at a big tech company and if I get any of these pregnant, they might keep the baby and I'll be done for (big child support payment you know haha). Any advice on where to pick up girls, which hotels to stay at, the cost of things, areas / things to avoid, or anything else will be much appreciated. Thanks.On my first trip I did both with a bit more time in AC than in Manila. You likely need to fly in / out of Manila anyway so might as well spend even 1-2 nights there in addition to AC. Then you will get a decent overall experience of the AC / Manila trip.
What's the communication approach you guys use when talking to Filipinas?
I'm on pinalove and I don't think the girls understand or vibe with my American banter LOL.
Do you they usually appreciate more straightforward approach, showering with praise or ymmv?
What's the communication approach you guys use when talking to Filipinas?
I'm on pinalove and I don't think the girls understand or vibe with my American banter LOL.
Do you they usually appreciate more straightforward approach, showering with praise or ymmv?A picture of your dick next to a $100 bill so they can size you up quickly. This usually works.
BaddHabbit
08-16-25, 13:46
What's the communication approach you guys use when talking to Filipinas?
I'm on pinalove and I don't think the girls understand or vibe with my American banter LOL.
Do you they usually appreciate more straightforward approach, showering with praise or ymmv?Straightforward better, and keep things fairly simple. They will tend to be quite literal so sarcasm and irony generally go right over the head and can even cause conflict. Also never ask multiple questions at once, you will only get an answer to one of them.
WestCoast1
08-16-25, 14:18
What's the communication approach you guys use when talking to Filipinas?
I'm on pinalove and I don't think the girls understand or vibe with my American banter LOL.
Do you they usually appreciate more straightforward approach, showering with praise or ymmv?I was going to send you a private message about this, but you don't yet have PM. The info you get here, in public and in private, is worth the price of annual admission: $20.
What's the communication approach you guys use when talking to Filipinas?
I'm on pinalove and I don't think the girls understand or vibe with my American banter LOL.
Do you they usually appreciate more straightforward approach, showering with praise or ymmv?The info the other guys have given you is valuable. For me, it's worked best with the ones who want you to get off Pina and message them via WhatsApp. They're the players and not the time wasters. No use dealing in the small talk. Tell them up-front in your profile that you're looking for a good time, as opposed to a relationship, if that's what you're after.
No use spending hours sending messages, when you can get them into your room and then ask them what you want.
Play it right and you'll get a hot girl for three days at the price of a short time bar fine in Burgos or similar.
Just my (very recent) experience _ Phil.
A picture of your dick next to a $100 bill so they can size you up quickly. This usually works.Never tried that approach DG, but I'm sure it's straight to the point and may work wonders.
Straightforward better, and keep things fairly simple. They will tend to be quite literal so sarcasm and irony generally go right over the head and can even cause conflict. Also never ask multiple questions at once, you will only get an answer to one of them.Exactly BH, they can only answer one question at a time. And then, there's translation issues. I usually just ask them, "What do you want?" and then negotiate from there.
I was going to send you a private message about this, but you don't yet have PM. The info you get here, in public and in private, is worth the price of annual admission: $20.Good call Westie.
A picture of your dick next to a $100 bill so they can size you up quickly. This usually works.I never send dick pics but I have sent photos of P2000 and my room key asking if they left this in my room and when would they like to come and collect it.
You would be surprised how many times she offers to "return" in half an hour.
G.
For reference, I'm a 24 year old guy going to visit Philippines for the first time. I've been reading through this forum but can't decide whether to go to Manila or Angeles City. So, I need help deciding that. In the states, I use dating apps but don't really get many hits. I've read about PinaLove but I haven't downloaded it. I want to get as many girls as possible within that week. Also, having sex without condom is on my bucket list, LOL.Mate, just show up and don't over-think it. You're 24. When I was your age, I was swamped when I hit the ground. I was relatively fit though and a 'good sort' back then.
If you've only got a week, my advice would be not to spend hours in a hotel room looking on Pina when you can walk out the door and find pussy on the street.
In my opinion, both Angeles and Manila are shitholes, but you can have a great time if your mission is sex. I personally prefer other destinations in The Phils, but have more time between business and pleasure.
As for condoms, I've only ever been 'required' to use them twice from memory.
Just don't hook up with them on social media, and best to carry a separate phone for messaging and use in The Phils. If you hook up with a Pina and they can track you down after you leave, no doubt, you'll receive the 'happy' message that you're going to be a father. Followed by endless howling emojis of them needing cash.
Don't let the above put you off. We've all made mistakes and that's called experience.
The Phils is great. There are some amazing times to be had. You just have to learn how to play the game. And although a week might be insufficient, you can always come back for more.
_Phil.
MrPalmerAcc
08-16-25, 16:36
For reference, I'm a 24 year old guy going to visit Philippines for the first time. I'll stay for about a week or so. I haven't decided when, but I'm thinking anytime between September to October. Flights are reasonably priced. I plan on getting Visa on Arrival. I've been reading through this forum but can't decide whether to go to Manila or Angeles City. So, I need help deciding that. In the states, I use dating apps but don't really get many hits. I've read about PinaLove but I haven't downloaded it. I want to get as many girls as possible within that week. Also, having sex without condom is on my bucket list, LOL. In the States, I get the low income girls (usually restaurant / retail workers or unemployed) who I'm afraid to go raw with because I work at a big tech company and if I get any of these pregnant, they might keep the baby and I'll be done for (big child support payment you know haha). Any advice on where to pick up girls, which hotels to stay at, the cost of things, areas / things to avoid, or anything else will be much appreciated. Thanks.I was in AC in 2023 and was not too impressed because there is not much to do in the daytime. I enjoy Manila a lot more and feel like the quality of the girls is better (but also more expensive). In Manila, I recommend Makati. Stay at City Garden and the hotel staff will take good care of you: they always check the girls ID and never let them leave without calling you in your room and making sure you say it is ok for them to leave. On P. Burgos, one block away check out the gogo bars by starting at Kalayaan Avenue and working your way south to Maison. At first just walk into every bar and check out the girls. If you see one you like buy her a drink and see how she vibes with you. Work your way down to Maison, which is the best bar in my opinion and the one where I usually barfine. It's not the cheapest but I have always been able to find an absolute stunner who will start grinding on me and asking me to finger her in the bar after only one or a couple of lady drinks. They usually spend the night with me and if asked about condoms they give the words that I love to hear in the Philippines "up to you. ".
If you want to explore beyond Manila, I recommend Barrio Baretto in Subic Bay over Angeles. It's just a little farther than Angeles but has a beach and daytime activities other than just day drinking. It is also 100% aimed at westerners, with zero Korean influence. Stay at Mango's Beachfront Resort Hotel or Pub Hotel and check out the gogo bars nearby. Lots of nice young girls from the provinces who will genuinely want you to fall in love with them and do everything to please you at Red Bar, the Wet Spot, Alaska Club, etc, etc. Barfines are much lower than Manila and girls are less experiences in a good way. If you like live music check out Queen Victoria, they have some awesome heavy metal cover bands. Hops and Brews beer garden has great food and is clean and totally up to western standards.
Another option other than Angeles is Sabang in Puerto Galera. To get there you take a bus from Manila to Batangas and then a ferry to Mindoro Island, the next island south of Luzon. Stay at Dream Hotel or Big Apple Dive Resort, both of which are right in the tiny alley that is the red light district with 5 or 6 gogo bars. Puerto Galera is less run down than Subic, the boardwalk was recently built, but there is also more Korean influence. Why is Korean influence bad? Because they pay too much and spoil the girls and treat them like a princess and when girls get used to that they won't perform as they should (like taking directions and doing what you ask, etc.). Still, lots of great girls in Sabang Beach both freelance and bargirls.
Both Puerto Galera and Subic had barfines of about 4000 php whereas Manila might be double that at Maison (a bit less at the other gogo bars) but sometimes its worth paying for quality. Freelancers usually start out asking for 2000 but its always negotiable.
Don't be afraid of freelancers and Tinder hookups. To me they are proof positive that sometimes cheaper is better. Sure, its more of a gamble, but if you just want a quick BJ they will work hard for the money and really, some of my best experiences have been with freelancers. Sometimes you find a really horny girl that is into you and she will work like she is hungry for it and it is her favorite thing to do. I hear stories about guys getting ripped off by freelancers but that is why hotels have a safe box. Always keep your valuables in the safe. The real troublemakers will likely be weeded out by the hotel when they check the girls ID, if a girl has caused problems in the past she will be banned from the hotels and they will let you know before you take her up to her room. The hotel staff are well trained and they want you to have a good time and to come back, so don't be afraid to talk to them about where to find girls, etc. Be nice to the security guards, tip them a little and they will look out for you and treat you like a VIP.
Regardless of where you go your going to have a great time!
First five pics are Puerto Galera. Pics 6-10 are Subic Bay.
What's the communication approach you guys use when talking to Filipinas?
I'm on pinalove and I don't think the girls understand or vibe with my American banter LOL.
Do you they usually appreciate more straightforward approach, showering with praise or ymmv?1/ Are you in the Philippines? I don't even chat with girls until I'm in a hotel, looking to meet them today or tomorrow. The only girls who care about you arriving next month or in February are the ones hoping to set up a LDR / Sponsor arrangement and likely won't even meet you should you actually turn up.
2/. Keep it simple. No jokes. No sarcasm. No solving world hunger. Where are they? Do they have work or study commitments? Do they want to meet in person? If she's a hoe, what's the duration and payment plan?
3/. One question, one reply, another question, another reply. If you list 10 questions, only the last one will be answered.
4/. Choose your questions to suit your target. Asking a hoe if she's ok with meeting for paid fun is totally acceptable. However, it may scare off a part timer who wants to meet for coffee first before coming back to "see your room".
5/. Pretty girls receive literally '000's of messages. I agree to move to WhatsApp ASAP so you don't get lost in the queue. If she doesn't have WhatsApp, move on. She's not serious about contacting foreigners and you're not interested in adding to her IG follower list or finding her amongst the hundred other Marys on FB.
6/. I'd also agree that the length of the conversation is inversely proportional to the odds of meeting and swapping body fluids.
A hoe will be three lines: does she fuck for money? Where? When?
A good girl will be a little longer: Where is she? Would she like to meet? When is she off work / class? Meet for coffee or is she shy to be seen in public? Maybe, does she live with family (ie does she have a strict mom watching her every move)?
7/. For all of these, depending on you comfort level, maybe add is she a girl?
8/. Most importantly, be prepared to cut your losses and walk away. Previously, being white and in town guaranteed that 99% of girls would meet you. Now online simps mean that girls can make more money through sponsors and sob stories than meeting and sucking dick.
If she is vague about maybe meeting, needs transport money upfront or has hospital costs for a dying grandma, then just walk away and find another.
9/. PL will only ban you if you offend the other person and she reports you. If you don't offend anyone, you can ask whatever you want. I have asked hoes how much for anal or does she shave her pussy without issue. However, ask the wrong person and she could block you or even have you banned.
Another reason to quickly move to WhatsApp.
Enjoy. G.
These two items are a bit paradoxical. 'Pick up girls' and 'get a ho' can be fairly different. You mentioned retail workers and such, but didn't mention money. The later (ho) would indicate a bargirl approach in Phils.
Just choose one of the places: Makati / Burgos (gogo bars), or the AC Walking / Red St gogo bars. You will be awash in poon.
Not really. Raising ninyos in Phils is relatively cheap, compared to your home country, especially given your salary. Also the ho's you mentioned would never have any idea who fathered the child (they bareback multiple times per week for a living).
A topic covered many times on the Phils forums. RTTF. Just pick one, and research the differences in price (covered on this board multiple times). We have a 'Search' function in the upper-right corner of every page on ISG.Thank you for the advice Westie. I've been on this forum for little more than a year seeing your posts and think to myself that this is the kind of life I want to live, haha. I'm going to fly into Manila and stay in Makati for a few days, then venture into some other place that has a good beach. I'll hit the bars you mentioned to get girls for the night and try to find girls on dating apps to spend time with during the day.
Mate, just show up and don't over-think it. You're 24. When I was your age, I was swamped when I hit the ground. I was relatively fit though and a 'good sort' back then.
If you've only got a week, my advice would be not to spend hours in a hotel room looking on Pina when you can walk out the door and find pussy on the street.
In my opinion, both Angeles and Manila are shitholes, but you can have a great time if your mission is sex. I personally prefer other destinations in The Phils, but have more time between business and pleasure.
As for condoms, I've only ever been 'required' to use them twice from memory.
Just don't hook up with them on social media, and best to carry a separate phone for messaging and use in The Phils. If you hook up with a Pina and they can track you down after you leave, no doubt, you'll receive the 'happy' message that you're going to be a father. Followed by endless howling emojis of them needing cash.
Don't let the above put you off. We've all made mistakes and that's called experience..Thank you for the advice Phil. I'd say I'm decent looking, not 6 foot but close. I'll use PinaLove but I'll also hit the street. I'm going to stay in Makati City for a few days before heading to some place with a beach. This will be my first real mongering experience, and for sure I'll be going back. Even if this one is short, it will at least teach me how to play the game. I just got an extra phone with a phone number, so I'll be using that for messaging. I don't have any social media except Linkedin which I'll be deactivating soon. But you are right, if a girl tracks me down afterward, I should be expecting that sort of news for sure, haha, but then again, with no social media and fake phone number, it's going to be hard for them to track.
WestCoast1
08-17-25, 01:15
3/. One question, one reply, another question, another reply. If you list 10 questions, only the last one will be answered.Typical mistaken conversation style:
Guy: Did you say you have work? What kind of job? BTW how old are you? -- Pinay reply: 24.
Asking questions in sentence or paragraph form = failure to get answers to your questions. Either ask them one at a time, or restate them in numbered or bulleted form, such as:
Guy: 1) Did you say you have work 2) What is your job? 3) BTW how old are you? Answer all please.
Either method is a pain, or lengthens the time of the conversation. Also due to possible limited Engrish, expect short replies to deeper questions you might ask:
Guy: Tell me about your family? -- Pinay reply: 4 brothers mama die.
The information given has been invaluable!
And it all validates my experiences so far. Every time I've used sarcasm they get offended and they ignore multiple questions LOL. Also I get there next month I was just seeing what was out there. I'll table the talk and see who bites a few days before the flight.
Mate, just show up and don't over-think it. You're 24. When I was your age, I was swamped when I hit the ground. I was relatively fit though and a 'good sort' back then.
If you've only got a week, my advice would be not to spend hours in a hotel room looking on Pina when you can walk out the door and find pussy on the street.
In my opinion, both Angeles and Manila are shitholes, but you can have a great time if your mission is sex. I personally prefer other destinations in The Phils, but have more time between business and pleasure.
As for condoms, I've only ever been 'required' to use them twice from memory.
Just don't hook up with them on social media, and best to carry a separate phone for messaging and use in The Phils. If you hook up with a Pina and they can track you down after you leave, no doubt, you'll receive the 'happy' message that you're going to be a father. Followed by endless howling emojis of them needing cash..
I was in AC in 2023 and was not too impressed because there is not much to do in the daytime. I enjoy Manila a lot more and feel like the quality of the girls is better (but also more expensive). In Manila, I recommend Makati. Stay at City Garden and the hotel staff will take good care of you: they always check the girls ID and never let them leave without calling you in your room and making sure you say it is ok for them to leave. On P. Burgos, one block away check out the gogo bars by starting at Kalayaan Avenue and working your way south to Maison. At first just walk into every bar and check out the girls. If you see one you like buy her a drink and see how she vibes with you. Work your way down to Maison, which is the best bar in my opinion and the one where I usually barfine. It's not the cheapest but I have always been able to find an absolute stunner who will start grinding on me and asking me to finger her in the bar after only one or a couple of lady drinks. They usually spend the night with me and if asked about condoms they give the words that I love to hear in the Philippines "up to you. "..Thank you very much for the advice. I appreciate the detail. I'll PM you regarding few other questions I had; hope you won't mind.
Old And Ugly
08-17-25, 11:50
Thank you for the advice Phil. I'd say I'm decent looking, not 6 foot but close. I'll use PinaLove but I'll also hit the street. I'm going to stay in Makati City for a few days before heading to some place with a beach. This will be my first real mongering experience, and for sure I'll be going back. Even if this one is short, it will at least teach me how to play the game. I just got an extra phone with a phone number, so I'll be using that for messaging. I don't have any social media except Linkedin which I'll be deactivating soon. But you are right, if a girl tracks me down afterward, I should be expecting that sort of news for sure, haha, but then again, with no social media and fake phone number, it's going to be hard for them to track.If they have a date, and a room nr and a friend of a cousin working at the reception, they will easily get a copy of your passport, that's kept in the files, much better to use at the US embassy than a phone nr, or facebook page. There are a million ways to track you if needed, stick to the bargirls, because the one time shop clerks or waitresses will know who's baby it is.
Trevor2522
08-17-25, 16:13
Open Pinalove and I'm not exaggerating that 90% of the girls are from Makati / Manila area. The vast majority are happy to drop around at short notice or, worst case, after meeting for a coffee. I don't do ST but LT is 4 to 5 k with stunners / dreamers trying their luck for 7 or 8 k.Thanks for the pricing. Are you sure PL's search engine does not take into account your location, or did you use a VPN?
With effectively-legalised extortion on-the-rise over domestic arguments and non-consensual sex -- what precautions would you recommend with new contacts?
https://youtu.be/T89deQcVl2k?si=BX5YnKDpwpnM9-QW&t=1650 advises never to be alone in one's home with a female, even a maid.
Typical mistaken conversation style:
Guy: Tell me about your family? -- Pinay reply: 4 brothers mama die.They should have some 'like' button on this forum.
Love it Westie.
_Phil.
Thanks for the pricing. Are you sure PL's search engine does not take into account your location, or did you use a VPN?
With effectively-legalised extortion on-the-rise over domestic arguments and non-consensual sex -- what precautions would you recommend with new contacts?
https://youtu.be/T89deQcVl2k?si=BX5YnKDpwpnM9-QW&t=1650 advises never to be alone in one's home with a female, even a maid.You can search PL by locations from individual buildings (eg Xavier Church) to Provinces. You can, or not, list your home location in your profile and also choose of you want your current location used. I used the dot com version, not the app and I'm asked trice when I first log in if I allow my location to be used by PL.
Simple. Don't do stupid shit. Take basic security measures for your person and valuables and don't piss people off or cause them to want revenge. Sure, we've all had bad dates but stories of things going seriously sideways always have more to them than what's immediately obvious. The odd minor scam is just the cost of doing business. I've never know a random innocent to be locked up or seriously shaken down just for being at the wrong place at the wrong time.
If that advice is followed, then there would be no mongering and hookups. At some point you have to take your chances and bring her back to your room. Unless you only want to fuck in public places. 😀.
Remember, thousands of girls and guys are ficking everyday without incident. Be aware but not paranoid about the horror stories.
Enjoy. G.
I should have added, it's one thing that irks me about PL: the thousands of girls who have no location listed. My first question to them is always where are they? Again 90% seem to be in Manila somewhere.
Be aware but not paranoid about the horror stories.
Enjoy. G.I should have added the one exception: there is NEVER a good reason to have a kid in your hotel room, regardless of if mom is there or not. If you want to, take mom and kid to lunch but they don't come back to your room. She takes the kid home then comes back alone.
No, not just for a while. No, you can't watch the kid while she ducks out to 7/11. No, they can't rest because there is no baby sitter at home. No means no. Never.
It may all be above board but the one time that it's not, it will go bad. Really bad. Think straight to jail, bad.
Enjoy. G.
Old And Ugly
08-18-25, 11:21
I should have added the one exception: there is NEVER a good reason to have a kid in your hotel room, regardless of if mom is there or not. If you want to, take mom and kid to lunch but they don't come back to your room. She takes the kid home then comes back alone.
No, not just for a while. No, you can't watch the kid while she ducks out to 7/11. No, they can't rest because there is no baby sitter at home. No means no. Never.
It may all be above board but the one time that it's not, it will go bad. Really bad. Think straight to jail, bad.
Enjoy. G.Absolutely correct!
Also if she looks too young and there is no front desk to check the ID for the age, or you live in a rental, make sure you take pic of the ID, in case is fake, so you can prove that you were the one that was tricked, and also she will not incriminate herself for document forgery by trying to extort you.
Trevor2522
08-18-25, 18:53
Take basic security measures for your person and valuables and don't piss people off. Sure, we've all had bad dates but stories of things going seriously sideways always have more to them than what's immediately obvious. I've never known a random innocent to be locked up or seriously shaken down just for being at the wrong place at the wrong time.Wise words! Best not to become paranoid but the PI does pass some Machiavellian laws, which are only enforced on the rich.
Remember American-Filipino Lewis Yakich, of the Lewis Grand hotel, who was building rooms via 3D printing in AC? He went missing in 2015 and was never found. His Filipino relatives were suspected but the PNP were typically-inactive, or paid-off with Lewis's stolen lucre. Never disclose one's wealth, or appear to be worth more dead than alive!
Remember American-Filipino Lewis Yakich, of the Lewis Grand hotel, who was building rooms via 3D printing in AC? He went missing in 2015 and was never found. His Filipino relatives were suspected but the PNP were typically-inactive, or paid-off with Lewis's stolen lucre. Never disclose one's wealth, or appear to be worth more dead than alive!Add in 99.99% of the minor drug busts where John was found with 0. 002 grams. Of course, the arguments with his wife's family or business partners are just a coincidence.
Enjoy. G.
AmericanPi
08-21-25, 02:41
Gents. Please welcome this newcomer. Not to the hobby or this site. I'm a senior member and have paid my dues. But I've never been to Philippines and I'm going next month.
I see a lot of conversation on this hotel vs that one. Usually when I monger I like girls to stay overnight, and I prefer Airbnb instead of hotel so I have more space, a living room, etc and don't need to walk past the front desk with a different girl each night.
Is there any reason I should not get an Airbnb apartment in Manila when I go? Anyone done it and have good experiences?
WestCoast1
08-21-25, 05:55
I see a lot of conversation on this hotel vs that one. Usually when I monger I like girls to stay overnight, and I prefer Airbnb instead of hotel so I have more space, a living room, etc and don't need to walk past the front desk with a different girl each night.
Is there any reason I should not get an Airbnb apartment in Manila when I go? Anyone done it and have good experiences?Welcome to the PI, good sir.
Most airbnb in Manila are in a Residence (or condominium, which has a different meaning than in the US). Choices are typically a hotel or a condo. A condo / residence is a high-rise building, which might look like a hotel or apartments, but is not. It has, say, hundreds of units, each with different owners. The owners themselves usually rent out the unit on airbnb (sometimes the owner lives in another country, and has a local 'host' who is the unit caretaker and oversees the rentals). All of the units are nearly identical. In most of these condos, the front desk does not act like a hotel clerk. The units are not usually available by walk-in (there are some exceptions). The front desk staff is not there to help you as a renter with any problems, you probably have to contact the owner / host thru airbnb.
Hence, the 'walk of shame' you mention is a bit different. Most hotels and condos have security guards at the front door, who will insist your guest to register (or alternately at the front desk of a hotel). This involves the lass to sign into a registry book her name, your room number, and her phone number. She will have to hand over her valid ID to the guard, who will hold it until her departure. This is a time-honored practice in almost all places in the country, city and province.
Some hotels and residences will allow you to not come to the lobby or escort her in. You can stay in your room / unit and the front desk or guard will call your unit, and ask you if miss Monica can come up to your room. Same upon her departure, you probably don't need to escort her out, and the guard will call your room / unit to confirm with you that you are aware that Monica is leaving. Other hotels / condos might require you to come to the lobby and escort her up. Some hotels / condos don't have phones in the room / unit, so they can't call you, and this will necessitate you meeting the girl in the lobby (or bringing her in yourself), subjecting you to the walk of shame.
However, some fellas have reported that City Garden Grand hotel in Makati requires none of this. Its a nice hotel. Unescorted ladies can waltz right in, and come up to your room at will, departing when they want, without any interference.
Other regulars weigh in here.
Old And Ugly
08-21-25, 06:03
Gents. Please welcome this newcomer. Not to the hobby or this site. I'm a senior member and have paid my dues. But I've never been to Philippines and I'm going next month.
I see a lot of conversation on this hotel vs that one. Usually when I monger I like girls to stay overnight, and I prefer Airbnb instead of hotel so I have more space, a living room, etc and don't need to walk past the front desk with a different girl each night.
Is there any reason I should not get an Airbnb apartment in Manila when I go? Anyone done it and have good experiences?If is your first time than distance and safety comes to mind, if you're going to be someplace without a frontdesk.
If trying to avoid scrutiny when entering the building, you need to know that most Airbnbs in Manila will have a front desk that checks you when entering, but will not check anyone coming out after they murdered and robbed you. Of course I'm presenting you with the worst case scenario, and I always recommend to get a hotel in Angeles City for the first timers due to simplicity and safety (you can bring in 100 girls each day). Many hotels have multiple room suites if that's what you need.
Is there any reason I should not get an Airbnb apartment in Manila when I go? Anyone done it and have good experiences?How long are you staying at each room? If weeks or months, then the long stay discounts that Air BnB offers may make it worth it. But check with forensic detail on fees, reviews and the stay conditions of both the owner and the building. Note the that these may be wildly different, eg one may not care but the other may not allow guests after 10 pm.
Personally, I find the rooms good but dealing with owners and Body Corps a major PITA. Most rooms are also available using the hotel booking apps, Agoda, Booking etc. I find them much easier to deal with and more customer vs owner centric.
Enjoy. G.
An epic rant in how fucked up staying at Avida is. I thought a nice place, in a good location, impress the good girls. Played it safe booking double occupancy. WRONG!! No visitors allowed. None! Not only after 10 pm. Never! Only people included on the Guest Register are allowed. Forget any 11th hour hookups online. Ain't going to happen. Only one Guest Register. Can't add strays. Special rules for Airbnb.
I'm walking away from my booking and checking out tomorrow morning. Fuck Airbnb and fuck Avida.
All of the units are nearly identical.The floor plan, yes. But I've had wildly different fitouts within the same building. It's not uncommon to have investment properties very sparsely furnished and a part time resident's unit next door complete with washers, nice beds, high end electronics and available for $5 a night more.
As I said above, check the details.
Enjoy. G.
AmericanPi
08-21-25, 15:24
Thank you to those of you who responded.
I think you have convinced me. I will not be doing an Airbnb.
I suppose I should ask, can anybody recommend great girl friendly hotels?
Central, upscale 4 or 5 star, and I can walk in and out with girls no problem.
Some hotels and residences will allow you to not come to the lobby or escort her in. You can stay in your room / unit and the front desk or guard will call your unit, and ask you if miss Monica can come up to your room. Same upon her departure, you probably don't need to escort her out, and the guard will call your room / unit to confirm with you that you are aware that Monica is leaving. Other hotels / condos might require you to come to the lobby and escort her up. Some hotels / condos don't have phones in the room / unit, so they can't call you, and this will necessitate you meeting the girl in the lobby (or bringing her in yourself), subjecting you to the walk of shame.
However, some fellas have reported that City Garden Grand hotel in Makati requires none of this. Its a nice hotel. Unescorted ladies can waltz right in, and come up to your room at will, departing when they want, without any interference.
Other regulars weigh in here.You've pretty much covered it Westie. I generally stay at the other City Garden across the road and nearly every girl has told me there's no need to meet them downstairs. They know the 'drill' and do the formalities before knocking on your door.
As for the walk of shame. I couldn't give a hoot about it. If a foreign guy in his fifties is bringing a 20-something girl back to his room, everyone knows what we're up to anyway. Especially if it's a Pina Love girl who you might line up for days at a time. Why worry about sneaking her in or out every time when everyone knows what's going on anyway?
It's not a walk of shame. It's a walk of freedom that you'd never get in your home country.
Just my take on it _ Phil.
WestCoast1
08-21-25, 16:29
As for the walk of shame. I couldn't give a hoot about it. If a foreign guy in his fifties is bringing a 20-something girl back to his room, everyone knows what we're up to anyway. Especially if it's a Pina Love girl who you might line up for days at a time. Why worry about sneaking her in or out every time when everyone knows what's going on anyway?For the OP (AmPi), we are discussing several hotels a block from the Makati / Burgos St streetwalkers and gogo bars. Every hotel and condo in the area, from cockroach-infested crappy, to high-quality, are generally revolving doors for the trade. Girls are going in / out 24 hours a day. Its only a walk of shame for you, and only if you let it be.
The other high-concentration area of similar hotels and condos is in Malate, near Robinson's Place mall and LA Cafe (now Midnight Haven).
And something worth considering. Most places require the girl to sign in (register) at the door or front desk, and surrender her ID. She gets it back upon departure. If you are not with her at departure, the hotel / condo will need to call you to confirm that you are OK with the girl leaving. This is a security protocol designed to protect you (in case she has drugged you and stolen your sh*t). Any hotel that doesn't adhere to this helps you avoid the walk of shame. But it also means that if the girl does something bad while in your room, then waltzes out the front door unhindered, #ya-fukt.
One way to increase your chances of avoiding the WOS is to tip the door security on your first day, and tell them to register inbound girls and send them up to your room where you will be waiting for them.
AmericanPi
08-21-25, 18:26
I see a lot of chatter around here about Pina Love.
But when I ask GPT, it says that Badoo is actually larger and somewhat younger in the Philippines. Pina has a better ratio of girls to guys but it's smaller.
I don't know. Kinda seems like Badoo might be better no?
Old And Ugly
08-21-25, 22:05
I see a lot of chatter around here about Pina Love.
But when I ask GPT, it says that Badoo is actually larger and somewhat younger in the Philippines. Pina has a better ratio of girls to guys but it's smaller.
I don't know. Kinda seems like Badoo might be better no?I use Date In Asia because I'm cheap when it comes to paid subscriptions, but you'll have to filter thru tones of fakes and LBs.
Ask the forum, not AI, here you get answers from long time users of all kind of apps and sites.
Ask the forum, not AI, here you get answers from long time users of all kind of apps and sites.Or just log on and give all of them a try before committing / paying for the one (s) he likes.
Everyone has different likes and needs. Someone's recommendation may not suit everyone.
I prefer Pina Love because I'm comfortable using it and have gotten good results in the areas I prowl. *.
I have used Cupid but forgot my password and couldn't be faffed organising a new one. At the time, I met some great girls through it though.
I have used DIA but was banned so many times I just gave up. I also didn't like their app usability.
Facebook walker and pick up sites has been a disaster for me.
I think I met one girl off Instagram. I can't remember much so it can't of been too good.
As always, YMMV.
Enjoy. G.
*I'm also a cheap Charlie and $25 signup fee has saved me thousands in drink, barfine and golden pussy charges.
Old And Ugly
08-22-25, 06:42
Or just log on and give all of them a try before committing / paying for the one (s) he likes.
Everyone has different likes and needs. Someone's recommendation may not suit everyone.
I prefer Pina Love because I'm comfortable using it and have gotten good results in the areas I prowl. *.
I have used Cupid but forgot my password and couldn't be faffed organising a new one. At the time, I met some great girls through it though.
I have used DIA but was banned so many times I just gave up. I also didn't like their app usability.
Facebook walker and pick up sites has been a disaster for me.
I think I met one girl off Instagram. I can't remember much so it can't of been too good.
As always, YMMV.
Enjoy. G.
*I'm also a cheap Charlie and $25 signup fee has saved me thousands in drink, barfine and golden pussy charges.I'm doing it from my PC, I think DIA doesn't have an app. I also use PL sometimes, but the free version, and just keep the conversation condensed and move to Whatsapp because of the time limitations on the free version. FB Walkers I only used it successfully in Davao with my GF's help. Also Thai friendly was the best when in TH.
But, at any time if I find it necessary I'll buy the subscription on any of them without hesitation.
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