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Miss MaryHinge
10-17-25, 15:00
My two missions in life: 1) Vax all the ladies; and 2) Get all the ladies to say to me: "Useful Tip".LOL.
Just the tip, as F Zappa used to say.
Mongering is not unlike this: You must expect negative experiences sometimes, they are the cost of the endeavor. And a great learning experience Westie.
From the newcomers, to the experienced, we will always get learn from the 'mistakes' we have made.
Over time, I've found that the best approach is to be the boss, name the price and call the shots. In a nice way.
If they don't agree, I'll move on to the next cutie who will.
Not really surprising that when you give one 'the flick', all of a sudden they message you wanting to catch up.
By that stage, I've generally moved on to a better option.
_Phil.
I'll be staying in BGC and *might* need the services of a WG in a massage shop (I am disappointed by the in-call bait and switchers, and their attitude) if my other efforts fall through. I know it's a pretty upscale area, and that even in Makati massage shops are usually clean, but are there any sex-positive shops in BGC where I can see my girl before I pick her and pretend to get a massage in a private on-site room?
I have come across few under premium sections of MC and some other online sites asking anywhere from 10 K-25 k, but few days back was puzzled when someone from FB (influencer Grace V) asked me 150 k for 3 hrs- almost choked, not sure what she is smoking. Asked her if it was typo and meant 15 k, she had the audacity of saying no, my price is 150 k. She looks normal, little on chubbier side, but certainly not worth more than 10 k. May be it was her way of saying no to me LOL!. Most of my good experiences were from MC, I haven't tried smooci yet, there are couple of options that I may try.
The online escort sites are typically the same girls anyway. Just a subset of the bar girls with shorter bookings and higher prices.
The exception would be the Members or VIP sections that do have stunning girls but at eye watering prices. 25 k per hour isn't unusual. There will be some form of sign-up to the site to even see them. Regular girls are 5 k and up per hour.
G.
Old And Ugly
10-19-25, 15:09
I have come across few under premium sections of MC and some other online sites asking anywhere from 10 K-25 k, but few days back was puzzled when someone from FB (influencer Grace V) asked me 150 k for 3 hrs- almost choked, not sure what she is smoking. Asked her if it was typo and meant 15 k, she had the audacity of saying no, my price is 150 k. She looks normal, little on chubbier side, but certainly not worth more than 10 k. May be it was her way of saying no to me LOL!. Most of my good experiences were from MC, I haven't tried smooci yet, there are couple of options that I may try.The max, I ever paid and I'm willing to pay in any 3rd world country is 100 $, and I'm so cheap that I'm doing it only under special circumstances, or extraordinary time constrains.
My ongoing rate is 0-2 k if money needs to be paid.
Back in the USA the max I ever paid was $300, and that's only lately for what used to cost $100 not to long ago.
What the heck can any girl do for $3 k? brain surgery cost less than that.
I don't think you are being cheap here, I am with you and don't want to pay more than 6 k and that's max, probably as gold is skyrocketing, they think their pussy = gold.
The max, I ever paid and I'm willing to pay in any 3rd world country is 100 $, and I'm so cheap that I'm doing it only under special circumstances, or extraordinary time constrains.
My ongoing rate is 0-2 k if money needs to be paid.
Back in the USA the max I ever paid was $300, and that's only lately for what used to cost $100 not to long ago.
What the heck can any girl do for $3 k? brain surgery cost less than that.
Locamotive
10-21-25, 21:32
The max, I ever paid and I'm willing to pay in any 3rd world country is 100 $, and I'm so cheap that I'm doing it only under special circumstances, or extraordinary time constrains.
My ongoing rate is 0-2 k if money needs to be paid.
Back in the USA the max I ever paid was $300, and that's only lately for what used to cost $100 not to long ago.
What the heck can any girl do for $3 k? brain surgery cost less than that.Agreed. About 100 bucks is standard for Asia. My question though is you quoted 300 dollars in US? You mean not overweight or a skank or a crack working girl under 30 for 300 bucks. Oh please please tell me where that is and Ill stop dropping a ton of money going to Asia. A few others have said things like this before, did I ever hear anything back. No. Please PM me if you have details.
I had an awesome 2 weeks trip in Manila. It was sex mongering, work and tourism. I sourced most of my ladies either from MC, DIA, and no luck from FB (either found out they were ladyboys, or they ghosted me or asked me exorbitant $$.
I stayed at a 5 star hotel in Manila bay and very close to Midnight Cafe. Went to the cafe few times but didn't like any, maybe my timing was a bit off.
Lets start with the girls from MC.
1. Regina was great we had couple of rounds of sex. Blowjob without condom and sex with condom (I preferred it with condom, didn't wanted to seed any babies that I couldn't take care of LOL).
2. Yumi was good too, but she was small and wasn't giving me full access probably my dick was little too big for her, other than that she was nice. We had two rounds and she left happily.
3. Pamela was little off from her pictures, and I think she has put good amount of weight and showed up without any makeup, sent her back after one round. Actually I couldn't even come.
4. Shyra. I had scheduled her, but was told she no longer works for that agency.
5. Just 18 yr old which I had liked but I was little hesitant and didn't want any questionable borderline age girl. So dropped that idea.
All these girls from MC were 5 k and my overall experience with MC had been decent, they were prompt with communication.
As I was staying in the same hotel with my work colleagues I didn't go to lobby to pick any girls and hotel was really nice handling it. They always called me when the girl arrived and called me to make sure before they left.
I will add non-MC on my next post.
Old And Ugly
10-22-25, 16:09
Agreed. About 100 bucks is standard for Asia. My question though is you quoted 300 dollars in US? You mean not overweight or a skank or a crack working girl under 30 for 300 bucks. Oh please please tell me where that is and Ill stop dropping a ton of money going to Asia. A few others have said things like this before, did I ever hear anything back. No. Please PM me if you have details.In Vegas, but now I lost track of it since I moved to PH. And since the Backpage and Craigslist got taken down you have to go by recommendations only, for home visits, but forget the overnight unless you're prepared to spend big bucks.
The girls in all the massage places in Chinatown will fuck you for $2-300/ HR. Also go look for dilapidated shopping malls with a massage parlor attached to them, that's where you're going to get serviced the best.
For FLs go to the Harras bar on the strip after 2 AM.
Skanks you'll find walking on the street on Tropicana, between the Orleans Casino and the Strip, day and night.
Do not call the advertised services it's all scams.
Alexandra2525
10-24-25, 03:49
Hi.
I'm in Manila now and recall people mentioning another bar near Midnight Haven that has some FLs. Can someone please remind me of the name so I can check it out tonight?
I have already been to MH but don't fancy just walking around there trying to find it as the area is quite sketchy.
I'll do a full report of my trip once I'm finished.
Thank you.
Old And Ugly
10-24-25, 04:59
Hi.
I'm in Manila now and recall people mentioning another bar near Midnight Haven that has some FLs. Can someone please remind me of the name so I can check it out tonight?
I have already been to MH but don't fancy just walking around there trying to find it as the area is quite sketchy.
I'll do a full report of my trip once I'm finished.
Thank you.The bars up and down the street to some extent, and ZZYZX. You're in Manila, the whole place is sketchy.
I wish I had the luck you fellas have. Bit worried that I will not be able to find anyone in Manila. Woe is me.
70 lb-er has moved her hand down. . . There. . .
What does that mean!?
She got them cute fossae zambales thingys also.I swear that looks like the girl I banged in Manila too! What was your girl's name?
Alexandra2525
10-24-25, 06:19
The bars up and down the street to some extent, and ZZYZX. You're in Manila, the whole place is sketchy.Thank you.
Some further googling and I think the bar I was referring to was the Dusk Til Dawn Bar. I will check it out this evening.
In terms of sketchiness I found that bit just outside MH to be quite bad. The area I'm staying iin Makati is fine and I can walk around without being approached by aggressive beggars. P Burgos St feels ok to me as I tipped a couple of the bar security guys and told them to keep an eye out for me when I'm drunk LOL.
WestCoast1
10-24-25, 07:15
Hi.
I'm in Manila now and recall people mentioning another bar near Midnight Haven that has some FLs. Can someone please remind me of the name so I can check it out tonight?
I have already been to MH but don't fancy just walking around there trying to find it as the area is quite sketchy.
G-Point Bar, 3-4 long blocks north from Midnight Haven. G-P is also a haven for older ladies. Located on Padre Faura St, between Mabini and Adriatico Streets, next door to a 7-11. Most nights a live band, and 5-15 ladies of all sizes, mostly age 35+. Good food selection. A smorgasbord eat-all-you-can joint, opening for the lunch hour about 11 am for a set price. About 3 pm they remove any leftover food trays and it becomes a regular-menu resto / bar again (good pinoy and non-pinoy menu selection). The girls start showing up around 4-7 pm. I find the place to be bottom of the barrel in terms of girls, and the prices usually reflect that. However other gents reported finding the occasional gem.
ZYZX is a disco, and in the opposite direction from Midnight Haven (head south), in the Remedios Circle. This is a rich filipino disco, and not really a mongering joint.
See pic.
The entire area is sketchy, dark and poorly-lit streets at night, loads of homeless sleeping on the streets, food vendors, etc. I love it. Its also within walking distance of Cowboy Grille, a large resto/bar with 1-2 different live bands each night.
Alexandra2525
10-24-25, 10:06
G-Point Bar, 3-4 long blocks north from Midnight Haven. G-P is also a haven for older ladies. Located on Padre Faura St, between Mabini and Adriatico Streets, next door to a 7-11. Most nights a live band, and 5-15 ladies of all sizes, mostly age 35+. Good food selection. A smorgasbord eat-all-you-can joint, opening for the lunch hour about 11 am for a set price. About 3 pm they remove any leftover food trays and it becomes a regular-menu resto / bar again (good pinoy and non-pinoy menu selection). The girls start showing up around 4-7 pm. I find the place to be bottom of the barrel in terms of girls, and the prices usually reflect that. However other gents reported finding the occasional gem.
ZYZX is a disco, and in the opposite direction from Midnight Haven (head south), in the Remedios Circle. This is a rich filipino disco, and not really a mongering joint.
See pic.
The entire area is sketchy, dark and poorly-lit streets at night, loads of homeless sleeping on the streets, food vendors, etc. I love it. Its also within walking distance of Cowboy Grille, a large resto/bar with 1-2 different live bands each night.Thanks.
I'm not in the mood for something like ZYZX even though I have heard that there are FLs there as well.
Yes, it's the fact that it's so darkly lit which makes it feel particularly sketchy around there. I can cope with it, I just didn't want to be walking around there looking lost because then you invite the homeless to come and try and 'assist' you LOL. I'm happy to go as long as I know exactly where I am headed.
Transporter
10-24-25, 11:00
Of all the years I've been, I have never pulled anyone or seen anything to my liking at G-point, but I still drop by every now and then to take a look. There use to be many bars down there that I pulled from, but they are all gone since covid. You may have better luck taking a look outside robinsons, or just outside MH.
WestCoast1
10-24-25, 13:03
Yes, it's the fact that it's so darkly lit which makes it feel particularly sketchy around there. I can cope with it, I just didn't want to be walking around there looking lost because then you invite the homeless to come and try and 'assist' you LOL. I'm happy to go as long as I know exactly where I am headed.Slightly enlarged map view attached. Other items of interest in the area: Cowboy Grill location; pop, rock, and on occasion some metal. Other live band place, 1 or 2 bands nightly, Calle Cinco on Mabini (same music types). And Chill's Bar, on Bocobo St (across the street from Birch Tower condo), just across Pedro Gil St and 75 meters from Robinson's; has live band usually a guy playing guitar and a gal singing soft love songs. None of these places are mongering places, just a place to take a date and tap your toes.
The Robinson's girls are either outside on steps at Pedro Gil St, corner Adriatico St, in front of Arya Resto at Robinson's. Alternately during the daytime some girls might be on patrol inside the mall, near the Starbucks on the ground floor. None of these girls are usually lookers.
Of all the years I've been, I have never pulled anyone or seen anything to my liking at G-point, but I still drop by every now and then to take a look. There use to be many bars down there that I pulled from, but they are all gone since covid.Hussy's bar. Didn't make it past covid. Old location shown on the map on Del Pilar. Mostly older gals, almost all 30+ years old (some in their 50's). LT barfine was p1500, and I pulled several gals out of there. They not only stayed overnight and provided 2 pops, some stayed into the afternoon and provided unli. They had little desire to return to the bar in the morning (some lived on the premises in the back). I found what I considered a gem, a twiglet that I took several times. Said she was 32, but ID showed her as 38. As long as Jollibee was provided evening and morning, she couldn't / wouldn't close her legs, nor could she stop snapping pics of herself. She is posted several times in the PG.
There were times that I landed at NAIA, spent the first night at Eurotel on Pedro Gil, and have dinner in Robinson's. Then walk directly to Hussy's, point at the least ugly girl in the place (if the gem was not there), barfine her on the spot (no drink or LD required), take her back to Eurotel and bang one out. Just to discombobulate myself and drop all of life's stress, and think clearly again. I was just not in the mood to hit LA Cafe or such and negotiate. Hussy's was close, always had girls, and the girls tended to have no rules or confinements.
Ahhhh. . . The good-old / bad-old days.
Guess I heaped little too much praise for MC, I ordered another girl from MC, I was debating between Selena vs Jewel but ended up getting Selena. I kept the money on the table once she arrived. She looked same as the picture was decent. Only reason I got her was she was busty, but she didn't allow me to suck saying she is sensitive I did overlook that, but she gave decent blowjob. But when we were about the start the action, she said she needs to go to bathroom. I should have sensed the red flag. She came back and we started fucking, within few seconds I felt little too frictionless. I stopped and check and she was on her period. I was pissed off and stopped and asked why she didn't tell me before, and she requested me not to call the agency or they will fine her.
I hit up the agency, not tryna get played, and said I ain't paying for something I didn't get. The agency girl was like, "Why'the you push for your own condom?" and I'm over here like, "what's that got to do with her period?" LOL.
Anyway they did refund the amount and paid the girl 500 pesos for her transport but within few minutes they blocked my ID.
I had an awesome 2 weeks trip in Manila. It was sex mongering, work and tourism. I sourced most of my ladies either from MC, DIA, and no luck from FB (either found out they were ladyboys, or they ghosted me or asked me exorbitant $$.
I stayed at a 5 star hotel in Manila bay and very close to Midnight Cafe. Went to the cafe few times but didn't like any, maybe my timing was a bit off.
Lets start with the girls from MC.
1. Regina was great we had couple of rounds of sex. Blowjob without condom and sex with condom (I preferred it with condom, didn't wanted to seed any babies that I couldn't take care of LOL).
2. Yumi was good too, but she was small and wasn't giving me full access probably my dick was little too big for her, other than that she was nice. We had two rounds and she left happily.
3. Pamela was little off from her pictures, and I think she has put good amount of weight and showed up without any makeup, sent her back after one round. Actually I couldn't even come.
4. Shyra. I had scheduled her, but was told she no longer works for that agency.
5. Just 18 yr old which I had liked but I was little hesitant and didn't want any questionable borderline age girl. So dropped that idea.
All these girls from MC were 5 k and my overall experience with MC had been decent, they were prompt with communication.
As I was staying in the same hotel with my work colleagues I didn't go to lobby to pick any girls and hotel was really nice handling it. They always called me when the girl arrived and called me to make sure before they left.
I will add non-MC on my next post.
WestCoast1
10-26-25, 13:20
Province girl busses to the city to visit with Westy. Again. Cute with a bangin' little bod, this time she earns a new Techno. What a man puts up with in Phils.
Remember, Thailand is open.
Nite_Runner
10-26-25, 23:54
Thanks for your detailed report. Did you not hit the LA cafe? I don't like BF, but LA cafe certainly has good options. I haven't tasted online options but read and seen mc, escortsitemakati has good options. I do agree, putting some effort ahead of travel, collecting all the potential options but not necessarily reaching out and lining up your options ahead of time is a good strategy.I am glad to hear that someone mentioned LA Cafe as that is my "go-to" as soon as I hit the streets. Excellent options, and the ladies seem to be drama-free. Does anyone else have thoughts on such?
N_R.
Transporter
10-29-25, 02:02
Guess I heaped little too much praise for MC, I ordered another girl from MC, I was debating between Selena vs Jewel but ended up getting Selena. I kept the money on the table once she arrived. She looked same as the picture was decent. Only reason I got her was she was busty, but she didn't allow me to suck saying she is sensitive I did overlook that, but she gave decent blowjob. But when we were about the start the action, she said she needs to go to bathroom. I should have sensed the red flag. She came back and we started fucking, within few seconds I felt little too frictionless. I stopped and check and she was on her period. I was pissed off and stopped and asked why she didn't tell me before, and she requested me not to call the agency or they will fine her. I hit up the agency, not tryna get played, and said I ain't paying for something I didn't get. The agency girl was like, "Why'the you push for your own condom?" and I'm over here like, "what's that got to do with her period?" LOL. Anyway they did refund the amount and paid the girl 500 pesos for her transport but within few minutes they blocked my ID.Just to let you know that MC and the like make up less than 1% of the online action in manila. LMK if you want to expand your online farming I might be able to steer you into some new pastures.
ThomasCasey
10-29-25, 02:14
Just to let you know that MC and the like make up less than 1% of the online action in manila. LMK if you want to expand your online farming I might be able to steer you into some new pastures.Some new pastures beyond the big dating sites like PL and DIA?
Transporter
10-29-25, 03:31
Some new pastures beyond the big dating sites like PL and DIA?I can't really say that dating sites are not good, as I haven't been on one for over 15 years, but Yes, although dating sites are fun in itself, it takes to much effort, and I am lazy and more into instant gratification.
I did get couple of ladies from DIA, haven't wrote a detailed report. I haven't tried PL. As I didn't want to leave any digital traces since it requires CC for subscription. It did require some effort, not a lot, but weeding out is a big hassle as I didn't have much patience and time. I didn't try some action in Malls.
Just to let you know that MC and the like make up less than 1% of the online action in manila. LMK if you want to expand your online farming I might be able to steer you into some new pastures.
I did get couple of ladies from DIA, haven't wrote a detailed report. I haven't tried PL. As I didn't want to leave any digital traces since it requires CC for subscription. It did require some effort, not a lot, but weeding out is a big hassle as I didn't have much patience and time. I didn't try some action in Malls.Most guys operate parallel 'travel' accounts. Depending on your needs these could be email, Socials, phone, financial accounts etc. These give both annonimity from prying eyes at home and separation from endless sick buffalo requests. I don't even turn on my travel phone when I'm home. If your worried about CC footprint, perhaps consider intermediary financial products: prepaid debit cards; Wise travel cards; remittance services etc.
For those guys seeking point and shoot, without the hassle of triaging online sites, then cash really is the great introduction agent. I know it dramatically improves my attractiveness to women when coffees, dates and dinners are too much effort.
I can't really say that dating sites are not good, as I haven't been on one for over 15 years, but Yes, although dating sites are fun in itself, it takes to much effort, and I am lazy and more into instant gratification.Previously I was the resident fanboy for online but I will admit that changed last trip. The level of girls online who are only seeking sponsors is off the charts. Many have no intention of meeting guys let alone fucking them in return for the payment. LDRs are just a screen for the guy sending money for essentially nothing in return. Let's not forget that she's likely speaking to hundreds of guys and receiving cash from several despite promises of being the one and only.
Don't get me wrong. I met some great girls and had a lot of fun but remember there are many more sharks out there now and being in country when making first contact is no longer certain to have her jumping into a taxi to see you as it was.
Enjoy. G.
A couple days before hitting Manila, I was lining up some ladies I found online. One girl hit me back in minutes: "Can you send advance money? Got to pay college tomorrow, short on cash. ".
Hell no—service first, cash never. Pinay girls are infamous for begging allowances.
Previously I was the resident fanboy for online but I will admit that changed last trip. The level of girls online who are only seeking sponsors is off the charts. Many have no intention of meeting guys let alone fucking them in return for the payment. LDRs are just a screen for the guy sending money for essentially nothing in return. Let's not forget that she's likely speaking to hundreds of guys and receiving cash from several despite promises of being the one and only.
Don't get me wrong. I met some great girls and had a lot of fun but remember there are many more sharks out there now and being in country when making first contact is no longer certain to have her jumping into a taxi to see you as it was.
Enjoy. G.
FutureDeadGuy
10-29-25, 20:08
A couple days before hitting Manila, I was lining up some ladies I found online. One girl hit me back in minutes: "Can you send advance money? Got to pay college tomorrow, short on cash. ".
Hell noservice first, cash never. Pinay girls are infamous for begging allowances.Why not? From their perspective there's zero downside for begging. You don't get what you don't ask for, and maybe 20% of the time, BOOM! Simp sends cash.
Why not? From their perspective there's zero downside for begging. You don't get what you don't ask for, and maybe 20% of the time, BOOM! Simp sends cash.20% of 50 messages a day is a lot of cash for zero effort.
And here I am wondering why she won't fuck me senseless all night for $40. 🤦8205;9794;65039;.
G.
WestCoast1
10-30-25, 03:32
Moved to Manila thread. OAU your post in the PG, #10341, with the pics. The pic of the girl licking your rod, about to suck, those pics do something to me. Couple of such archived pics from some of my Manila girls, and other girls I brought to Manila. Enjoy.
Rockinmask
10-30-25, 09:15
Hey, Wanted to share my experience of visiting Philippines in Aug. I had enrolled in pinalove well before visiting Philippines. Spoke to around 15 girls online.
Day 1: Met girl 1, She has a daughter. Met her in Starbucks and asked if she wanted to hangout at my place. She was fine with it, We moved to my place and had a take away of jollybee. She was showing affection right from the cab itself. After reaching my Airbnb, we watched tv for sometime. Soon we were hugging and kissing each other. She looked super horny, lowered her top and caressed her small boobs. We moved to the bed and I had amazing BBBJ and sex in multiple positions. I have never had sex so early on a date.
Day 2: Met another girl 23 yrs around. She wanted to have some allowance for meeting, Promised her 3 k. We met at a restaurant and were happy with each other company, She allowed me to hangout at her place, We made out a little, but no sex, She allowed me access to her boobs but wasn't ready for sex. She wanted more of a relationship. Gave her 3 k.
Day 4: We went to siargao for visit, Awesome place to be. Used tinder and found one girl. She quoted 6 k. She gave a nice GFE experience, but I felt it was little expensive for her. She had round ass, allowed me to drill her for longtime.
I would love to go back again, ,lots more to explore there. Girls are too easy to get, sometimes free also.
Friends and Family program is going well.
The other week 2 girls were brought over by a friend. I knew they were a secret lesbian couple working at a bar. Same routine where one would be in the CR while the other one would be getting the pounding and the rotate to the CR. The 2 girls were giggling like schools and then one went to the CR. During foreplay with the one the CR girl would open the door, poke her head in and say something. Quite disruptive and I told her to shut the door and to shut up. It happens a few more times and gets the bed girl giggling while I am now entering her and I lose train of thought and get mad about it.
I stop and literally tell them to pack it up and leave without any payment. P150 for the trike. No discussions.
First time I had to unfriend someone! And kick them off the F & F plan.
I was talking to one of the girl I met from cityoflove, she was telling me about her sister who was also a provider at MC (she showed her pics, and looked very pretty), who doesn't work anymore as American Gringo pays her 100 k per month while she is awaiting her processing to go to USA. Lucky for her and one less lady for us.
20% of 50 messages a day is a lot of cash for zero effort.
And here I am wondering why she won't fuck me senseless all night for $40. 🤦8205;9794;65039;.
G.
Old And Ugly
10-31-25, 04:51
Friends and Family program is going well.
The other week 2 girls were brought over by a friend. I knew they were a secret lesbian couple working at a bar. Same routine where one would be in the CR while the other one would be getting the pounding and the rotate to the CR. The 2 girls were giggling like schools and then one went to the CR. During foreplay with the one the CR girl would open the door, poke her head in and say something. Quite disruptive and I told her to shut the door and to shut up. It happens a few more times and gets the bed girl giggling while I am now entering her and I lose train of thought and get mad about it.
I stop and literally tell them to pack it up and leave without any payment. P150 for the trike. No discussions.
First time I had to unfriend someone! And kick them off the F & F plan.I think she wanted to join in.
Old And Ugly
10-31-25, 05:00
Moved to Manila thread. OAU your post in the PG, #10341, with the pics. The pic of the girl licking your rod, about to suck, those pics do something to me. Couple of such archived pics from some of my Manila girls, and other girls I brought to Manila. Enjoy.I half broke my promise to that one, she let me take pics but asked me to promise that the pics will not end up on "red tube", well I don't know what that is, but I put them here.
Last night my GF came to angeles and brought a friend with her, we had a wild session, but I have no photographic evidence.
I think she wanted to join in.No. I think she was jealous or insecure about letting a cock get into her GF. These lesbians think if her girl gets a cock in her she might switch back.
I am sure she was intentionally cock blocking. It was a shame as she was really tight.
WestCoast1
10-31-25, 15:30
Heading to Manila this month. I've never been, but I've been going to German (FKK) and Thailand for 20 years. I fly into Manila and I'm staying at Makati Palace Hotel for 3 nights before I move on to Angeles or Cebu.
SNIP
What advice can anyone give me for my 3 nights in Manila?Did not hear back from BP Brian. October has come / gone. How was your Manila, and AC or Cebu time? Is there a field report for us?
WestCoast1
11-01-25, 00:13
Hey, Wanted to share my experience of visiting Philippines in Aug. I had enrolled in pinalove well before visiting Philippines. Spoke to around 15 girls online.
Day 1: Met girl 1, She has a daughter. Met her in Starbucks and asked if she wanted to hangout at my place. She was fine with it, We moved to my place and had a take away of jollybee. She was showing affection right from the cab itself. After reaching my Airbnb, we watched tv for sometime. Soon we were hugging and kissing each other. She looked super horny, lowered her top and caressed her small boobs. We moved to the bed and I had amazing BBBJ and sex in multiple positions. I have never had sex so early on a date.Shame you had to put up with that. Now you have a girl ready for your next trip. Well done!
Day 4: We went to siargao for visit, Awesome place to be. Used tinder and found one girl. She quoted 6 k. She gave a nice GFE experience, but I felt it was little expensive for her. She had round ass, allowed me to drill her for longtime.Its a lot for a girl from Siargao, but sounds worth it.
I would love to go back again, ,lots more to explore there. Girls are too easy to get, sometimes free also.An apt description of Phils. Good initial report.
Did not hear back from BP Brian. October has come / gone. How was your Manila, and AC or Cebu time? Is there a field report for us?Like most guys seeking advice you never hear back from them. It's like they come and fall into a deep crevice and never heard from again!
Best advice is to tell them upon arrival to tie a 2 x 4 to their azz so someone can tow them out!
OxygenFresh
11-02-25, 18:47
I was in Manila for a week in October end. First of all, a big thanks to the OGs here who answered all my questions about stay and location. You comrades deserve a big salute!
And so does Manila. Never have I enjoyed an Asian mongering destination more. And I've been to TH, Indonesia, Vietnam, HK, Japan and Dubai (which is awesome, but very expensive). It is just perfect: neither in your face like TH nor too much effort like Vietnam. In fact I got a bit overwhelmed by the number of girls toward the end LOL. Started with PL and got instant connects. While many girls just want to fleece you, there is a healthy number of las which are ready for P2 P or want something long term. I happened to connect with both.
While p2 p was instant gratification for 3000, long term was infact more fun. We met for coffee and she was unwilling to come back to my place. Agreed to meet me socially during my stay and show me around the city. Now why would I say no to a free tour guide! So I agreed to the offer and she took to MOA and a few other places. All I did was pay her food and occasional drink bills. By end of day 4, the slow burn was too much for both of us, and she was in my room where we fucked like bunnies. It was a marathon, and totally worth it!
I also used MC a couple of times. It's quite professionally run and you get what you see.
I must confess though I found Burgos street a bit underwhelming. Most clubs had 4-6 women, with hardly a quarter doable. I went there for 2 nights and then ditched it. PL and MC were my go-to.
I was replied to one of my earlier posts that you never sleep alone in Manila. I now know its true. 12 Pina age 19-28 in 7 days. I'm going to ditch TH for the foreseeable future for PH. Want to explore other cities in the country. Cant wait to go back. The memories of all those naughty Pina are going to linger a long long time.
And once again, a big thank you to all the learned souls here, you folks are awesome! Here's a short glimpse of a few tastings. Cheers!!
I'm going to ditch TH for the foreseeable future for PH. Want to explore other cities in the country. Cant wait to go back. The memories of all those naughty PinaIt's good to read that you had a good time.
While Manila and AC can be a great introduction for the newbie, you are 100% correct that venturing further has definite benefits. Expect lots of beaches, scenery and things to do during the day along with much fresher girls and costs a fraction of the online or bar scenes in the big cities.
The typical steps are Manila and AC to Cebu and Davao to Provincial Mindanao, Cebu or Lyete.
Enjoy. G.
Hey is pina love similar to Thai friendly like where its most P4P escorts?
I must confess though I found Burgos street a bit underwhelming. Most clubs had 4-6 women, with hardly a quarter doable. I went there for 2 nights and then ditched it. PL and MC were my go-to.
Good to see that you have fun! My trip is in Feb so hopefully I'll have a similar report to give. Can you please explain what is MC? PL is Pinalove I guess.
I'm wondering what's the situation with the guest access at the Airbnbs in buildings like Air residence, Gramercy Residences, etc. All these big condominium residential buildings where 99% of the airbnb s are located? My only time in Manila was a little surprise. It turns out that they are not allowing guests to enter the building if they are not registered in advance by the host. And no, just the regular ID registration at the reception wasnt allowed.
It was a little circus, I was explained that its not possible, the girl was sitting at some lounge areas in the lobby waiting to grant her access and it took 5 awkward minutes to reach a "financial agreement" with the guys at the reception. I have them something like 300-400 php. Its not about the money, its the awkwardness of the situation. The girl was a normal freelance girl that felt pretty awful with all this circus and I'm hoping to avoid it this time.
Yeah I understand that most of the time it will works if you give some money to the guys in the reception but I don't want to depend on their "willingness to cooperate" - imagine you are with a hottie, you had a great night at some bar and you are horny as hell coming at your place and then a round of negotiation starts. Once I was thinking to give money in advance to the guys in the reception to speed up the process but they are so many people in this residential buildings, the staff is rotating all the time, its wasnt possible to arrange things in advance.
So any advices from you brothers who prefer to rent Airbnb instead of a hotel? How do you deal with this situations? I even checked the garrage entrances and is it possible to smuggle someone there but there was security everywhere.
The only solution that I came up is to write in advance to the host that "I will have guests and is it possible to register them in the reception" when they arrive. And then it starts a long stupid conversation of " can you send me the ID now", "no, its not possible because of a random stupid excuse" and so on. I got really annoyed. Just let us register with ID in the reception and enjoy the time together, we are not entering a Top secret military site LOL. BTW I saw in lets say at least 50% of the Aribnb rules of the listings in Manila clearly written "You have to send us a copies of the IDs in advance, its not possible the apartment to be visited by other guests during your stay".
I'm wondering what's the situation with the guest access at the Airbnbs The best solution is to take your booking number, add your shoe size and divide by the number of letters in your mother's maiden name. If the result is an odd number, then you will be ok. An even number is not good. It's that random.
I've had the full range from walking away from a week long booking the next morning because I couldn't get anyone in to walk right though, no questions asked and everything between. I'd make these comments about ways of improving your chances:
Bookings through Agoda, Booking etc go much smoother than through AirBnB.
High-end 5 Star Residences have far stricter rules and enforcement than lower tier options.
Girls who look like $20 hoes get stopped far more often than girls dressed like librarians.
Hoes alone get stopped far more often than with a resident guy.
Hotels are far more accommodating than Residences.
A good relationship with security and desk staff helps.
If you find a location that is guest friendly, stick with it. Don't risk moving to a unknown room just to try something different.
Sorry that I couldn't give you any hard and fast rules but it really is a crap shoot.
Good luck. G.
The best solution is to take your booking number, add your shoe size and divide by the number of letters in your mother's maiden name. If the result is an odd number, then you will be ok. An even number is not good. It's that random.
I've had the full range from walking away from a week long booking the next morning because I couldn't get anyone in to walk right though, no questions asked and everything between. I'd make these comments about ways of improving your chances:
Bookings through Agoda, Booking etc go much smoother than through AirBnB.
High-end 5 Star Residences have far stricter rules and enforcement than lower tier options.
Girls who look like $20 hoes get stopped far more often than girls dressed like librarians.
Hoes alone get stopped far more often than with a resident guy.
Hotels are far more accommodating than Residences.
A good relationship with security and desk staff helps.
If you find a location that is guest friendly, stick with it. Don't risk moving to a unknown room just to try something different.
Sorry that I couldn't give you any hard and fast rules but it really is a crap shoot.
Good luck. G.Thanks for the suggestions but they are not very relevant. As I said I prefer an apartment / studio, not a hotel. It doesn't matter where you book. Airbnb or booking / agoda. The conditions are the same. With airbnb at least you can contact the host in advance and ask your questions. The suggestion to walk away on the first day if they are not allowing visitors also is not very lets say creative, because I had already paid the whole amount for the week and nobody will refund me. And why would they? They are rules and conditions of the booking and if you didn't paid attention to read them, its your fault after all.
And no, none of the girls that I have been were dressed like a hoes. As I said they are regular normal girls, not picked from bars or streets. And again, if you are an European guy with a local girl, usually you get noticed. Especially if you are a reception employee and its part of your job.
Booking a low quality accommodation is also not an option for me. Its my vacation, I'm there to enjoy life and to tease myself. I'll not go to some shithole just because I can enter freely there.
Good relation with the security guy. I hope you read my message. I was thinking the same but they are rotating them the whole time. For a week there I almost didn't saw the same employee more than twice.
So my question was, to people that have been in similar situations using Airbnb-s, can you recommend places that have more relaxed visitors policy.
WestCoast1
11-03-25, 10:37
So my question was, to people that have been in similar situations using Airbnb-s, can you recommend places that have more relaxed visitors policy.I will PM you some thoughts.
Old And Ugly
11-03-25, 16:31
Thanks for the suggestions but they are not very relevant. As I said I prefer an apartment / studio, not a hotel. It doesn't matter where you book. Airbnb or booking / agoda. The conditions are the same. With airbnb at least you can contact the host in advance and ask your questions. The suggestion to walk away on the first day if they are not allowing visitors also is not very lets say creative, because I had already paid the whole amount for the week and nobody will refund me. And why would they? They are rules and conditions of the booking and if you didn't paid attention to read them, its your fault after all.
And no, none of the girls that I have been were dressed like a hoes. As I said they are regular normal girls, not picked from bars or streets. And again, if you are an European guy with a local girl, usually you get noticed. Especially if you are a reception employee and its part of your job.
Booking a low quality accommodation is also not an option for me. Its my vacation, I'm there to enjoy life and to tease myself. I'll not go to some shithole just because I can enter freely there.
Good relation with the security guy. I hope you read my message. I was thinking the same but they are rotating them the whole time. For a week there I almost didn't saw the same employee more than twice.
So my question was, to people that have been in similar situations using Airbnb-s, can you recommend places that have more relaxed visitors policy.I never, ever had any problem entering with guests, except during the scamdemic when vax cards were checked and validated.
Needed or not, I always pass around 50's or 100's, depending on the nr of staff involved, if 2-3 of them 100 each if more 50 each, I'm used to it from Vegas where you tip for drinks, ushers, valet, etc. When I bring someone, I just pass them another 100 as usual, they remember you, and respect you, at least so that the tips keep coming.
If I stay longer in one place, I'll bring back with me when handy and it's on my way back, a cheap piece of fried something, a fruit, a doughnut from the street vendors, or a coke if stopping at 7/11. Never had a problem. Some guys are saying fuck that! I'm not doing that kind of shit, me I'm doing it regardless of needing their assistance, or not, just helping out some poor bastards that had the bad chance of being born in the wrong place.
I never, ever had any problem entering with guests, except during the scamdemic when vax cards were checked and validated.
Needed or not, I always pass around 50's or 100's, depending on the nr of staff involved, if 2-3 of them 100 each if more 50 each, I'm used to it from Vegas where you tip for drinks, ushers, valet, etc. When I bring someone, I just pass them another 100 as usual, they remember you, and respect you, at least so that the tips keep coming.
If I stay longer in one place, I'll bring back with me when handy and it's on my way back, a cheap piece of fried something, a fruit, a doughnut from the street vendors, or a coke if stopping at 7/11. Never had a problem. Some guys are saying fuck that! I'm not doing that kind of shit, me I'm doing it regardless of needing their assistance, or not, just helping out some poor bastards that had the bad chance of being born in the wrong place.I think my mistake was that I didn't do the 50 and 100 thing. These small gestures will definitely help but the problem with these big condominium monsters is that they are too many staff. Anyway, good idea. Will use it. If I stay at some place 5-6 days, sooner or later I'll meet the same guy from the previous days. BTW rolling back the memories, in Kenya when I arrived, I gave the security guys something like the equivalent of 5 euro when I checked in, they helped with the suitcases, showed the aribnb, etc. And from then till the end of my stay they were my best friends! Arriving with 2 girls one night. No problem, no questions asked. Instead there was a big smile and even the door was opened for me LOL So yeah, thank you for the good advice Old and Wise brother.
Also I`ll text the owner of the airbnb in advance, just to confirm me that there will be no problem from his side. And if he confirms, I`ll make the booking. At least in Manila there are hundreds of good airbnb-s so there will be enough options
Old And Ugly
11-03-25, 18:51
I think my mistake was that I didn't do the 50 and 100 thing. These small gestures will definitely help but the problem with these big condominium monsters is that they are too many staff. Anyway, good idea. Will use it. If I stay at some place 5-6 days, sooner or later I'll meet the same guy from the previous days. BTW rolling back the memories, in Kenya when I arrived, I gave the security guys something like the equivalent of 5 euro when I checked in, they helped with the suitcases, showed the aribnb, etc. And from then till the end of my stay they were my best friends! Arriving with 2 girls one night. No problem, no questions asked. Instead there was a big smile and even the door was opened for me LOL So yeah, thank you for the good advice Old and Wise brother.
Also I`ll text the owner of the airbnb in advance, just to confirm me that there will be no problem from his side. And if he confirms, I`ll make the booking. At least in Manila there are hundreds of good airbnb-s so there will be enough optionsLast time I stayed at the Grand Riviera Suites at Padre Faura / Roxas, across the street from the US Embassy, because I had something going on at the embassy for about 10 days, it is within walking distance from Midnight Haven, Robinsons Mall, and the university, all great hunting grounds. Also next to the entrance there is an convenience store and Zus Cafe where you can screen the online rentals before bringing them in.
Did not had a problem getting in with girls, the elevators are in a hallway to the left out of the view of the front desk, but I still greased the 3-4 security guys.
The best solution is to take your booking number, add your shoe size and divide by the number of letters in your mother's maiden name. If the result is an odd number, then you will be ok. An even number is not good. It's that random.
I've had the full range from walking away from a week long booking the next morning because I couldn't get anyone in to walk right though, no questions asked and everything between. I'd make these comments about ways of improving your chances:
Bookings through Agoda, Booking etc go much smoother than through AirBnB.
High-end 5 Star Residences have far stricter rules and enforcement than lower tier options.
Girls who look like $20 hoes get stopped far more often than girls dressed like librarians.
Hoes alone get stopped far more often than with a resident guy.
Hotels are far more accommodating than Residences.
A good relationship with security and desk staff helps.
If you find a location that is guest friendly, stick with it. Don't risk moving to a unknown room just to try something different.
Sorry that I couldn't give you any hard and fast rules but it really is a crap shoot.
Good luck. G.This is literally why I stopped using Airbnb in Manila. The audacity to think they can take my money and also dictate who I can bring in for the duration of my stay is on a different level. Not to mention the other rules involving pools etc.
Might as well go back to hotels where at least I'm treated like a fee paying customer and not a retarded toddler.
This is literally why I stopped using Airbnb in Manila. The audacity to think they can take my money and also dictate who I can bring in for the duration of my stay is on a different level. Not to mention the other rules involving pools etc.
Might as well go back to hotels where at least I'm treated like a fee paying customer and not a retarded toddler.With AirBnB, we have three masters: AirBnB itself; the owner and; the tower operator. All often have different rules and levels of enforcement. With Agoda etc, I normally only deal with them and don't even contact the owner etc. I've never had Agoda tell me who or how I can entertain.
Now the distinction between hotels and apartments etc is getting very blurred. It's not at all difficult to find hotel rooms with multiple bedrooms, kitchens, laundries etc. The same can be said for booking sites. Agoda etc are making real efforts to have offerings well beyond the regular 20 sqm hotel rooms.
I do still use AirBnB in Manila and elsewhere but I'm very careful to remember the guidance I listed below and typically I've stayed there before so know what I can and can't get away with. Of course, the more specific my demands, then the less places that are available to meet all of those demands.
When in doubt, I book a night or two then extend or leave depending on what I find.
Enjoy. G.
Rockinmask
11-04-25, 06:29
Further to my post on Manila trip, want to share my experience in Siargao.
I love how Siargao place is, looks so calm and relaxing. Plenty of foreigners and local action can be had, Best place was to hangout at Siargao Beach club (SBC). Me and. Friends went there ordered for drinks, Its fun party night there where you can interact with locals, dance and vibe. I got a girl thru tinder and she was adamant on 8 k per 1 hour shot, didn't think it was worth it.
2nd day we went to Siargao Book club. Its a great coffee shop. I found one of the waitress had a crush on me, gave her my no while leaving. We went island hopping that day and believe me it was my best across Asia. Really loved te vibe. At night I got a message from the waitress and I offered to meet her for pizza. We went for pizza and she was kind of hesitating and shy. She was only 4. 9 height and small girl in 20's. I offered her to go to my place for hangout and she accepted. I could see she was shy but there was some tension between us. Once we reached the resort, we hangout for sometime, watched tv. Started kissing in no time. She was so horny, I could feel her body trembling with my touch. Sucked her small boobs to my heart content, she gave me a great GFE experience. We had 2 rounds that night, I gave her some allowance of 4 k and she was so happy with it.
Next day we went for beach and I asked her to take the day off. We had so much sex that 2 days. It was sad I had to leave Siargao for next trip to Oslab. Hope to go to Siargao again.
With AirBnB, we have three masters: AirBnB itself; the owner and; the tower operator. .
I own a condo in a building where the owners' association has voted to exclude Airbnb from operating on our property.
The property has mostly resident owners; there are several apartments available for long-term rental, but this is arranged through the property office.
Our security is cautious vetting of unknown people entering the condo, with intercoms used between the front desk and apartments.
If an OWNER allows access, then he or she is taking responsibility for the visitor.
We, as a group, do not want short-term renters (like Airbnb) to have access to our apartment floors; it follows that we also do not want them to bring in other unknown guests.
I can well appreciate where an owner might wish to take responsibility for allowing a friend or relative to use his / her apartment whilst away for a designated time, but then the owner must provide details of the visitor, and the visitor must have relevant ID when they arrive. This may explain why there are more strict measures in some places than in others.
In properties where many (most?) apartments are renters, the Airbnb can operate more freely with varying levels of security.
You should enquire in advance whether you can bring in visitors to your Airbnb apartment/house. If no, then find another property that will.
This is literally why I stopped using Airbnb in Manila. The audacity to think they can take my money and also dictate who I can bring in for the duration of my stay is on a different level. Not to mention the other rules involving pools etc.
Might as well go back to hotels where at least I'm treated like a fee paying customer and not a retarded toddler.In every other place around the world that I have been, renting an Airbnb for me have huge benefits. For the same price, its always much much better in terms of fancy design, quality furniture, location, privacy, everything. But not in Manila it seems. Its totally the opposite. So I'm very very tempted to book a hotel in Makati / Poblacion area and to just forget about that there may be a bad surprises.
By the way I am looking now at booking.com website and when you open the property page, there is a section there below with "questions". In almost every hotel that I checked, there is always a question about "do you accept visitors / guests", and always the answer is yes. So it will be a hotel then.
Usually I'm renting an small apartment or stuio with sofa / lounge, or bar stools area, something like that. Its much more fun when you enter the place with a girl, to relax there, have 1-2 drinks if you want, fuck her on the sofa, the usual things hehe Then in the morning its nice to have a place to just sit and chat. But in Manila will go back to the usual hotel room. I prefer not to worry about in what mood is the security and to gamble is there a new rule from the Admin of the building saying "no guests or I'll fire you if I see that you allowed anyone".
BTW has anyone stayed at Herald Suites Polaris? I read that they allowed guests without a problem, the location seems fine, its a quite place and the price is good. Looks a little bit dated and the design is from last century but will do the job I think
WestCoast1
11-04-25, 10:38
BTW has anyone stayed at Herald Suites Polaris? I read that they allowed guests without a problem, the location seems fine, its a quite place and the price is good. Looks a little bit dated and the design is from last century but will do the job I thinkWhile staying at Bel Air Soho recently, I saw plenty of fellas going in / out with hoes. You can consider all hotels and condos on this map area (first pic) to be girl-friendly. This is the red-light district. The curved red line is Burgos street where the gogo bars and FL are. The red arrow is the location of the Herald Suites. If you go to the Google map to this area and zoom in, many more hotel / condos will show up. Herald is an older building, on the same (cheaper) level as Soho and Sunette Tower. While older and run-down, Herald and Soho are just steps across the street from Lips gogo bar, my fav, and they are a half block from Burgos.
The blue box in the upper left is where Milano and Knightsbridge residences are (also see pic 3). Milano, KB, Y2, and Gramercy are the more upscale condos in the area, about a 6-8 minute walk to Burgos.
And for a better hotel: City Garden Grand. Nice joint, has an excellent rooftop restobar and pool, and is the most guest-friendly place in the area.
I think you are asking us for information that we can't give. Almost everyone here would tell you they have experience in most every accommodation on this map, with little or no issues. Things rarely change in this regard. But by the time you get there, something might change at this or that accommodation. Even if Westy says Herald is great, when you get there it might be different. The only sure remedy is for you to call the hotel or residence Admin and ask.
By the way fellas. The Argentinian steak house resto at the base of Trump Tower went out of biz a few months ago.
In every other place around the world that I have been, renting an Airbnb for me have huge benefits. For the same price, its always much much better in terms of fancy design, quality furniture, location, privacy, everything. But not in Manila it seems. Its totally the opposite. So I'm very very tempted to book a hotel in Makati / Poblacion area and to just forget about that there may be a bad surprises.
In every other place around the world that I have been, renting an Airbnb for me have huge benefits. For the same price, its always much much better in terms of fancy design, quality furniture, location, privacy, everything. But not in Manila it seems. Mate, for me I usually get a decent hotel, but the fancy design etc. Doesn't matter a rat's arse.
It's the quality of your company and how long they'll be hanging around with you.
Sure, if you want a decent stay in a shithole like Manila or Angeles, you'll want to make yourself as comfortable as possible.
The things that matter to me, is hooking up with a great freelancer who will appreciate your room, and who'll spend hours, if not days, with you at a fraction of the price of grabbing a bar girl who'll brush you off as soon as you shoot.
Go for the better hotels for a decent stay. City Garden works for me.
Westie offers some really good advice as usual from Experience.
These hotels are in a red-light district, and the vast majority of their clients are like us, like-minded.
No need to feel 'the walk of shame' bringing a girl back.
They're used to it _ Phil.
In every other place around the world that I have been, renting an Airbnb for me have huge benefits. For the same price, its always much much better in terms of fancy design, quality furniture, location, privacy, everything. But not in Manila it seems. If we are only talking about fit out, then Philippines AirBnB fall into two categories. Firstly, part time residents who rent out their condo etc while not in town. These tend to be very nicely and more completely furnished and in better quality towers. Expect complete kitchens, washing machines etc. Secondly, there are the investor specials designed to sustain life only. Equipment, paint etc will be old and minimal and there may even be restrictions on how much you can cook, use the pool etc. Strangely, the latter only comes at a $10 per night savings.
All I can recommend is to very critically read the listings, photos, reviews etc.
For a short stay, you're comments about tying a quality hotel is probably wise. The only benefit I see to AirabnB in Manila etc is for families or long stays.
Good luck. G.
I own a condo in a building where the owners' association has voted to exclude Airbnb from operating on our property.This is happening world wide, including where I live back home.
Great for the neighbours but not so good for us who want a place to drag home a girl or ten over a few days stay.
AirBnB is falling out of favour with many groups: renters, Body Corps, other residents and even owners.
Enjoy G.
I think you are asking us for information that we can't give....Things rarely change in this regard. But by the time you get there, something might change at this or that accommodation. Even if Westy says Herald is great, when you get there it might be different..There is also the risk that what Westie or G prefer may not be priorities for Sir Ono.
Recommendations are helpful but shouldn't be relied upon 100%.
G.
Old And Ugly
11-05-25, 02:44
I prefer to be surrounded by beautiful naked female bodies, everything else comes second.
WestCoast1
11-05-25, 10:53
I own a condo in a building where the owners' association has voted to exclude Airbnb from operating on our property.
The property has mostly resident owners; there are several apartments available for long-term rental, but this is arranged through the property office.
Our security is cautious vetting of unknown people entering the condo, with intercoms used between the front desk and apartments.Good point. A lot of renters, and even HOA unit owners (regardless condo or regular subdivision houses) have little idea that the HOA rules govern everything under its umbrella. In order of hieracrchy, there are HOA rules, airbnb rules, and owner rules. This can be a bit complicated. Most owners think their rules apply when renting airbnb, but airbnb slaps them back in place when owners try to overide airbnb policies. HOA rules trump most everything.
HOA rules are set in stone (eraseable stone), and are created by owners voting on them. Most HOA's allow their Admin to make temporary snap changes to rules for either calamity, health or safety sake, often leaving the decisions to a single administrator (the 'head' guy or gal). Additionally concerned owners might be able to call snap homeowner meetings for this or that issue, and vote in (or out) any rule on the spot, usually if they have a quarum (a quarum as previously defined by: them).
As an example, during the start of covid, bunches of HOA's made snap changes such as these: 1) No new renters (previous renters grandfathered in). 2) If new renters were allowed, no minors or senior citizens allowed. 3) Masks required in public spaces in the residence. 4) Immediate compliance with existing rules that were being ignored; such as maximum number of residents allowed in a unit. 5) Other such items. All of those disappeared after Covid. However for those of us in-country at the time, this severely limited our options for rental.
When you get to a residence that doesn't allow hoe-guests, most likely the upper-crust residents have put a stop to that. The Admin has to enforce it. Responsibility for this airbnb eff-up would seem to directly fall on the shoulders of the owner / host, who did not post that on airbnb. Airbnb has a policy of requiring full-home units, such a s house or condo unit (as opposed to renting just a bedroom in a home) to be YOUR (renter's) home for the duration of the rental, unless otherwise specified in the home description or pictures. Of course you can have guests, unless the residence / HOA rules prohibit it. OTOH if the airbnb description from the owner says you can't, then you can't (even if the HOA allows it, as you are agreeing to it in advance). But they rarely state that. More later on that.
You should enquire in advance whether you can bring in visitors to your Airbnb apartment/house. If no, then find another property that will.Best advice ever. Forewarned is forearmed.
Banana Boi
11-05-25, 11:04
I own a condo in a building where the owners' association has voted to exclude Airbnb from operating on our property.My AirBNB in BGC specified that I MUST tell everyone I'm a GUEST of the owner. They made it clear to me that if I ever mentioned AirBNB to the condo I would be charged a penalty and had to pay for it in addition to my prepaid AirBNB cost.
I thought this was lame. As if the condo doesn't know that unit is being rented out as an AirBNB with new guests coming every few days.
WestCoast1
11-05-25, 11:35
My AirBNB in BGC specified that I MUST tell everyone I'm a GUEST of the owner. They made it clear to me that if I ever mentioned AirBNB to the condo I would be charged a penalty and had to pay for it in addition to my prepaid AirBNB cost.
I thought this was lame. As if the condo doesn't know that unit is being rented out as an AirBNB with new guests coming every few days.Yes. Even more bizarre. During covid, the unit I airbnb rented in Manila, the owner had me meet him at a convenience store down the street from the condo. Once in his car, he had me lay low in the back seat while he drove past the condo guards and into the building's parking garage. He drove the car close to an elevator and stopped, and had me lay low in the back seat while he looked around to see if anyone was around. Finally he said "Get out, go directly to floor 21 and let yourself into the unit. Its not locked. The key is on the table. I will stop by and see you in an hour". Dude, why the clock-and-dagger stuff? "Get out". Off I went up to the unit. An hour later he knocked and explained that the residence was not allowing any unit rentals during covid. "Stay away from the front desk if you go out". What? "Consider yourself lucky to have a place to stay in Manila. Its all gone to sh*t here. Lay low. There is almost nothing open out there and little reason to go outside. Don't get caught they will boot you. I will get in trouble also. No refunds". And off he went. Every few days he stopped by and brought fresh bottles of water and sometimes Red Horse, and took my laundry to his place and had his wife clean and fold my clothes, and brought them back the same day. Same went for bed linens. He was also correct about nothing being open out there. No restos or bars, coffee shops or malls. You could walk a KM in any direction and not find anything open. Depressing. One day he and his missus showed up with a batch of lumpia and some water for me. She was brutally ugly. Told them that I wasn't hungry and put the food in the ref, thinking they would make small talk and go home. They sat around for more than an hour, with little talk. Finally I asked when they were leaving. Is there anything else we need to talk about? "Oh, no. They think were are working on our unit. We have to stay here for a while". You mean you are keeping up appearances with the front desk concierge as fixing up the place and need to stay here for a while? "Ya that's it". Bajesus! Tell me next time? Also no guests were allowed. Stayed for my airbnb contracted 30 days and bounced.
Found another place slightly less restrictive. I pre-registered myself and one of my long time regular girls and she was able to come / go as she pleased. During those days, lesson learned: When moving to a new digs online, always register one of your gals as your asawa in airbnb. Was limited to one mid-30's skinny MILF, but that's much better than nothing, and had my run of her for unli pops for a month. She stayed with me for 2-3-4 days, went home for 1-2 night, and returned. We lived on Foodpanda.
BB, I doubt there was any way he could charge you a penalty thru airbnb's system.
WestCoast1
11-05-25, 12:15
On every respective airbnb page for any given unit, there is almost always a written description (see pic #1). If after arriving you find the unit is a different unit, or that something in or about the unit (or residence) is inconsistent with the description (including guest policy), you have a case for either breaking the contract, or getting a partial refund. When attempting such, airbnb offers you an easy out: There is a checkbox for "Unit is not as described". Checking that option, and explaining the discrepancy to airbnb, will get you started on a short dialogue with the owner, then airbnb will make a decision on whether you can cancel the contract (minus any nights you spent there, prorated) or get a partial refund. I have utilized this a number of times.
Additionally, you should check the "Things to Know" section for each unit you are considering (pics #2, 3, and 4). Anything listed there are owner restrictions. Renting this unit binds you in advance to these restrictions. If it says NO SMOKING, that means you can't smoke (even if the HOA rules allow smoking on the premises). If it says maximum 4 persons, and you invite an extra hoe as a fifth wheel, then you have effed up. Its just that simple. This will be the location of NO UNREGISTERED GUESTS. Usually you never see this, and you are free to have guests. UNLESS the residence (HOA) does not allow guests. Period.
The red circles. COOKING IS NOT ALLOWED. This might be an owner restriction, or a residence restriction. Cooking by gas is not allowed, and cooking by electric stove smokes up the unit and sets off the fire alarm, possibly for the entire floor (or more). I find this is also not often mentioned on airbnb, and when I check in, the owner / host mentions NO COOKING. But, dude, there you put an electric stove on the counter. Its the same one from the airbnb pics. Hey, why are you shoving that into the cupboard? "NO COOKING. USE THE MICROWAVE".
CARD KEY IS ISSUED WITH P1000 DEPOSIT. If it says that, you have to have p1000 on you before they will let you move in. You get it back later. If you don't have the p1000, they might tell you to go find an ATM. There you are stuck in the lobby with your suitcase, after a long flight, now you have to go find an ATM. Great! Once, in Birch Tower (Malate), the owner met me in the lobby and wanted p2000 for a key deposit. I nearly fell over at the amount. Sorry ma'am, I was not aware of this p2000, and I don't have it with me. "Can you GCash it to me?" I won't. Why would I hand you 2000 pesos? "Its required. Its on airbnb". Really? We both whipped out our phones to check. "Things to know. You look that part sir". We both scrolled to there, and. . . It wasn't mentioned. She was upset with herself for not having it there. "But you have to give it. Its required". I took a screenshot of Things to know. Sorry, toots. You have to let me into the unit now, or deny me entry. Which is it?
It was easy to do at that moment, as Birch Tower has 2 real estate companies in the lobby, eager to rent to anyone (albeit at a higher price). Finally she gave up the ghost and let me into the unit. But she didn't give it up entirely. Once inside: "But. Can you send it Gcash tomorrow? Please?" No. Now, show me that wifi password, sweetie.
But, but, but Westie, I have to look thru the description of every unit? YES, its the fine print.
If you'd like information about partial refunds from airbnb, PM me.
OxygenFresh
11-05-25, 12:37
Staying on the point of stays, would any learned soul know if Somerset Mataki is a hotel or serviced apartment? And is it Green? I have a trip to KL later this month and was thinking of a 3 days stop over in Manila. The trip late last month has left me wanting for me LOL.
Cheers!
WestCoast1
11-05-25, 16:19
Staying on the point of stays, would any learned soul know if Somerset Mataki is a hotel or serviced apartment? Which one (see pic)? From the pictures on Google Maps, they both look like serviced apartments.
And is it Green? Apology. What does 'Green' mean?
OxygenFresh
11-05-25, 17:50
Which one (see pic)? From the pictures on Google Maps, they both look like serviced apartments.
Apology. What does 'Green' mean?Thanks Westie. I was referring to the one circled on top. And they do indeed look like serviced apartments. What confused me was that they were listed even when I specifically checked on "hotels" option on the booking site.
By "Green" I meant if they would allow me to get the girl inside my room. Going by all the discussions here, it looks tricky if they are not conventional hotels.
Cheers!
WestCoast1
11-05-25, 23:21
By "Green" I meant if they would allow me to get the girl inside my room. Going by all the discussions here, it looks tricky if they are not conventional hotels.
Cheers!Welcome.
I would argue, and like to hear from others on this recent discussion. I would hazard that you have a very small chance of residential rejection for your girls, either from hotels or serviced residences. Here is a list of hotels and condos either on, or within a 10 minute walk of Burgos St, where you almost certainly will not have any problems (its the red light district, they don't turn girls away). Have stayed at most of these, and have heard of no problems with any of these since covid ended (all of 2023 - present):
Sunette Tower residence, Durban hotel, Oxford Suites, Lokal (ST) hotel, Makati Palace hotel, Royal Bellagio hotel, Bel-Air Soho res, Sogo (ST) hotel, City Garden hotel, St. Giles hotel, and City Garden Grand hotel (CGG is known for not even bothering to register your guest at all; she can just come in, hop into the elevator, and go to your room, even if you are not with her). Within a few blocks and 5-10 minutes walk: Gramercy res, Milano res, Knightsbridge res, Berjaya hotel, Coro hotel, and Makati Prime Tower res. Have stayed in most of these, and only had trouble at Knightsbridge during Covid* (2022), but not after.
Absolutely for a short stay of a few weeks or less, City Garden Grand is your best bet. Its the most Gfriendly place anywhere. Anyone can waltz in at any time (there is no door guard), enter the elevators at any time, and go where they want. Its fairly upscale, with a lovely rooftop pool, restaurant, and live band nightly. Never stayed there, but have taken several dozen dates to the rooftop. Its a block from Burgos St.
Its almost unheard of in the nawty zones for places to turn your girl away (unless she caused trouble there before).
And of course, as suggested by RK and myself, you can put all such fears to bed by simply CALLING THE RESIDENCE ADMIN AND ASKING GUEST POLICY before booking the unit.
* The trouble at KB was both with Admin, and an owner. After checking me in, the owner (who lived elsewhere in the building) told me: "No guests. Its Covid". I asked her why she hadn't put that in her unit description in airbnb, but got nowhere with her on this. Later I went to dinner and checked with the guard. He said same old policy the girl just gives up her ID and can come in. ** All good (for a while). I ignored the owner's request / demand for no guests and went on about my poon-vaxxin' mission for several days. The owner figured out (chismosa) what I was doing and chewed on me at the unit, telling me that it was her place and she would contact airbnb and boot me and. . . Blah, blah, blah. Apparently we both contacted airbnb, and she got the short end of the stick because she hadn't included her own no guest policy in her description. My vaxxing mission continued.
** Not quite the same old policy. A few days after I got there I brought in a girl for the night. The next day we went out somewhere for a while without her picking up her ID at the front door guard, as we were coming back. Upon arriving back the guards refused her entry. "Sir we have a 24 hour rule. You can not bring in the same guest inside 24 hours. Sorry po". They handed her ID back and she came back later that night, outside the 24 hours. I checked with the Admin office and they confirmed the 24 hour rule. Can't argue with the HOA rules, but I was a bit steamed and contacted airbnb with a second owner complaint: The owner hadn't put in the description, nor in any of our communications, the 24 hour rule. I got an airbnb partial refund back from the owner for that. I posted part of that story at the time.
These problems were caused by the COVID scare. That was THEN, not NOW. Have stayed at KB several times in 2023-24, no problems.
Old And Ugly
11-06-25, 03:03
Yes. Even more bizarre. During covid, the unit I airbnb rented in Manila, the owner had me meet him at a convenience store down the street from the condo. Once in his car, he had me lay low in the back seat while he drove past the condo guards and into the building's parking garage. He drove the car close to an elevator and stopped, and had me lay low in the back seat while he looked around to see if anyone was around. Finally he said "Get out, go directly to floor 21 and let yourself into the unit. Its not locked. The key is on the table. I will stop by and see you in an hour". Dude, why the clock-and-dagger stuff? "Get out". Off I went up to the unit. An hour later he knocked and explained that the residence was not allowing any unit rentals during covid. "Stay away from the front desk if you go out". What? "Consider yourself lucky to have a place to stay in Manila. Its all gone to sh*t here. Lay low. There is almost nothing open out there and little reason to go outside. Don't get caught they will boot you. I will get in trouble also. No refunds". And off he went. Every few days he stopped by and brought fresh bottles of water and sometimes Red Horse, and took my laundry to his place and had his wife clean and fold my clothes, and brought them back the same day. Same went for bed linens. He was also correct about nothing being open out there. No restos or bars, coffee shops or malls. You could walk a KM in any direction and not find anything open. Depressing. One day he and his missus showed up with a batch of lumpia and some water for me. She was brutally ugly. Told them that I wasn't hungry and put the food in the ref, thinking they would make small talk and go home. They sat around for more than an hour, with little talk. Finally I asked when they were leaving. Is there anything else we need to talk about? "Oh, no. They think were are working on our unit. We have to stay here for a while". You mean you are keeping up appearances with the front desk concierge as fixing up the place and need to stay here for a while? "Ya that's it". Bajesus! Tell me next time? Also no guests were allowed. Stayed for my airbnb contracted 30 days and bounced.
Found another place slightly less restrictive. I pre-registered myself and one of my long time regular girls and she was able to come / go as she pleased. During those days, lesson learned: When moving to a new digs online, always register one of your gals as your asawa in airbnb. Was limited to one mid-30's skinny MILF, but that's much better than nothing, and had my run of her for unli pops for a month. She stayed with me for 2-3-4 days, went home for 1-2 night, and returned. We lived on Foodpanda.
BB, I doubt there was any way he could charge you a penalty thru airbnb's system.Another fucked up covid story, we were lucky in Vegas, as everybody (almost) figured it out that it was a scam about a week into it, and nobody gave a fuck about the masks or other useless similar stuff. You can still see idiots 5 years latter driving alone in their car with the mask on.
I wish I had the luck you fellas have. Bit worried that I will not be able to find anyone in Manila. Woe is me.
70 lb-er has moved her hand down. . . There. . .
What does that mean!?
She got them cute fossae zambales thingys also.Did you meet her off PinaLove?
Welcome.
I would argue, and like to hear from others on this recent discussion. I would hazard that you have a very small chance of residential rejection for your girls, either from hotels or serviced residences. Here is a list of hotels and condos either on, or within a 10 minute walk of Burgos St, where you almost certainly will not have any problems (its the red light district, they don't turn girls away). Have stayed at most of these, and have heard of no problems with any of these since covid ended (all of 2023 - present):
Sunette Tower residence, Durban hotel, Oxford Suites, Lokal (ST) hotel, Makati Palace hotel, Royal Bellagio hotel, Bel-Air Soho res, Sogo (ST) hotel, City Garden hotel, St. Giles hotel, and City Garden Grand hotel (CGG is known for not even bothering to register your guest at all; she can just come in, hop into the elevator, and go to your room, even if you are not with her). Within a few blocks and 5-10 minutes walk: Gramercy res, Milano res, Knightsbridge res, Berjaya hotel, Coro hotel, and Makati Prime Tower res. Have stayed in most of these, and only had trouble at Knightsbridge during Covid* (2022), but not after.
Absolutely for a short stay of a few weeks or less, City Garden Grand is your best bet. Its the most Gfriendly place anywhere. Anyone can waltz in at any time (there is no door guard), enter the elevators at any time, and go where they want. Its fairly upscale, with a lovely rooftop pool, restaurant, and live band nightly. Never stayed there, but have taken several dozen dates to the rooftop. Its a block from Burgos St..Definitely girl friendly but they need a card key to use elevator unless you want to meet them at roof top bar. But if I have met the girl before they just leave ID at desk and they let her up. Also desk calls to make sure you are OK.
WestCoast1
11-06-25, 16:14
Definitely girl friendly but they need a card key to use elevator unless you want to meet them at roof top bar. But if I have met the girl before they just leave ID at desk and they let her up. Also desk calls to make sure you are OK.Muchos gracias the update. I have gone up to the rooftop without a key card many times, and had girls meet me up there when they did the same, no card, that I just assumed that you could hit any floor without one. This also answers Onojdi's and OxyFresh's question about finding a place that is GFriendly.
Muchos gracias the update. I have gone up to the rooftop without a key card many times, and had girls meet me up there when they did the same, no card, that I just assumed that you could hit any floor without one. This also answers Onojdi's and OxyFresh's question about finding a place that is GFriendly.Most will allow card free access to restaurants and bars but will not stop on room floors.
OxygenFresh
11-07-25, 11:09
Which one (see pic)? From the pictures on Google Maps, they both look like serviced apartments.
Apology. What does 'Green' mean?
Muchos gracias the update. I have gone up to the rooftop without a key card many times, and had girls meet me up there when they did the same, no card, that I just assumed that you could hit any floor without one. This also answers Onojdi's and OxyFresh's question about finding a place that is GFriendly.
Thanks Phil and Westie. I booked City Garden Grand. Looking forward to my second trip within a month.
Cheers!
Thanks Phil and Westie. I booked City Garden Grand. Looking forward to my second trip within a month.
Cheers!The one downside of cgg is that the elevators are slow. Have a great time. I won't be able to go until Feb 2026.
TedFerguson
11-07-25, 12:48
Visiting Manila next week and looking for the best looking girls, ideally a student who can hold a convo and wants to go out on dates. Based on my research Seeking will give me that, PinaLove isn't as great and escort sites like MC are below that in terms of optics. Did I get that right, or are there even better options?
Visiting Manila next week and looking for the best looking girls, ideally a student who can hold a convo and wants to go out on dates. Based on my research Seeking will give me that, PinaLove isn't as great and escort sites like MC are below that in terms of optics. Did I get that right, or are there even better options?Hi Ted, I'm not too sure about Seeking, and I may have missed previous reports, but I can't remember that platform being mentioned here much.
Ideally, finding a great looking student who can hold a convo and wants a date seems ambitious, yet you might get lucky.
Aim high, just don't be disappointed if things don't go to plan.
You'll find some of the best horizontal action can happen when you 'lower the bar' a little.
Just my experience _ Phil.
Visiting Manila next week and looking for the best looking girls, ideally a student who can hold a convo and wants to go out on dates. Based on my research Seeking will give me that, PinaLove isn't as great and escort sites like MC are below that in terms of optics. Did I get that right, or are there even better options?Problem with seeking in Manila today is everyone and their grandma's wet dog is on it. Many of the girls on seeking are the exact same ones on tinder / pinalove / bumble / hinge / whatever dating app is out there. Exact same girls with the exact same pictures across multiple platforms. Some will literally try to sell their conversation and listening skills (no sex whatsoever!) as a reason why you should pay them. You even have the regular tondo street girl who spends all day with her shabu selling Filipino gang member boyfriend (s) on the app demanding 15 k+ pesos because why not, it's seeking and she hears its full of pay pigs.
I'm not saying you can't find what you're looking for on there, it's just that the app is saturated beyond comedic ridiculousness and be prepared to do some extra digging.
Visiting Manila next week and looking for the best looking girls, ideally a student who can hold a convo and wants to go out on dates.Call me crazy but wouldn't the best place to find real college students be a college? Or the places they gather?
There are many 7-ELEVEN and McDo's that attract a swarm of hot girls every lunchtime. Of course, walking up to a group of young, attractive, educated girls and asking if they want to suck dick for $50 may not have the desired effect. It's amazing how girls with options may not select lecherous foreigners as their first port of call.
I'm not a Seeking user. But I do find most guys who report about it high on the Simp scale, funding extravagant dinners, allowances, holidays etc while pretending that the girl really finds them attractive. On the flipside, many girls online purport to be a student but in fact don't study anything, just using it as an opportunity to request help with supposed course and exam fees.
If I was looking for the hottest girls I would just use PL or DIA and video chat to screen for conversation ability. Its very easy and quick to sort the girls who can't string a sentence together. There are thousands available in Manila so you won't have issues finding someone. IG has stunners but I find them entitled air heads and with so many guys contacting them, their time and $$ expectations can be outrageous.
Good luck. G.
Aim high, just don't be disappointed if things don't go to plan.
You'll find some of the best horizontal action can happen when you 'lower the bar' a little.
Just my experience _ Phil.I've also had the opposite. Take home a jeans and tee shirt Plain Jane only to find a bikini model underneath.
A very pleasant surprise indeed.
Enjoy. G.
TedFerguson
11-08-25, 05:21
If I could lower my standards, I'd be happy to. It's cheaper and would make my life easier. But I prefer at least an 8 so I can see her multiple times and not have to weed through dozens of profiles as a part time job.
Everyone and their mother is on Seeking, PL, and probably every other dating app in Manila because there's 20 M+ in the city. But Seeking so far has better optics than PL. Can't speak for the number of simps on the platform because I'm not interested in men.
Assuming DIA is Date in Asia. Solid recommendation, thank you for that. I've seen some better looking options there than PL (where there are almost none for me), just like TF in Thailand. Of course if nothing works out, I'll try to break into a college lecture, ask the girls if they want my dick, and leave a few business cards.
Everyone and their mother is on Seeking, PL, and probably every other dating app in Manila because there's 20 M+ in the city. But Seeking so far has better optics than PL. Can't speak for the number of simps on the platform because I'm not interested in men.
Pre covid, it was a goldmine of exactly what you're looking for. College girls and college educated professionals galore, I'the say at least 80% of the profiles back then fit this criteria.
Today, Manila seeking literally isn't any better than going to p Burgos or using any of the apps. Because like I said, everyone found out about it and now I'd say your target market probably makes up 20% of the profiles or less. The only difference is the girl who would've been happy with 5 k on tinder or pinalove will demand 15 k+ on seeking for the exact same thing.
Your money I guess.
Visiting Manila next week and looking for the best looking girls, ideally a student who can hold a convo and wants to go out on dates. Based on my research Seeking will give me that, PinaLove isn't as great and escort sites like MC are below that in terms of optics. Did I get that right, or are there even better options?Recently I contact a 9+ on FB out of the blue. She replied and said she was a model. After some dancing around I asked if she was open to meeting up discreetly. She replied possibly yes but what was the allowance? I said 5 k. She replied "I am a model. Starting at 50 k po." I thanked her for her time.
You might have to start at 15 k plus for your criteria.
I have had some luck on pina. Met some non pros that had real jobs in government, colleges etc. But it takes a real date.
The one that I have never had luck is locanto. A couple of ladybugs. Met in lobby, gave them 500 p to go away.
I've also had the opposite. Take home a jeans and tee shirt Plain Jane only to find a bikini model underneath.
A very pleasant surprise indeed.
Enjoy. G.Exactly what I meant G.
Some of the best contacts I have, initially came across a "Plain Janes, or Jhoans" and have turned out to be keepers for many a return visit.
Lower the bar and you'll often get rewarded unexpectedly.
Buy them a feed and a 300 p cheap dress and they'll scrub up pretty well and look quite good hanging off your arm in public, it that's your thing.
Just my experience _ Phil.
Not sure what these ladies think they are—limited-edition Birkins with a pulse? Some FB diva quoted me 150 K. I just thanks, but rather should have said Sweetie, for 150 K I expect you to come with a dowry, a yacht, AND a signed affidavit that you'll do my laundry for life.
Recently I contact a 9+ on FB out of the blue. She replied and said she was a model. After some dancing around I asked if she was open to meeting up discreetly. She replied possibly yes but what was the allowance? I said 5 k. She replied "I am a model. Starting at 50 k po." I thanked her for her time.
You might have to start at 15 k plus for your criteria.
Not sure what these ladies think they arelimited-edition Birkins with a pulse? Some FB diva quoted me 150 K. I just thanks, but rather should have said Sweetie, for 150 K I expect you to come with a dowry, a yacht, AND a signed affidavit that you'll do my laundry for life.Unfortunately there's always going to be clowns who are willing and happy to pay these rates. Their reasoning is often "well, I can't find this back home so I'm grateful to be able to pay western rates here in south east Asia for something I could and should be getting for 5% of what I'm paying, after dumping thousands of dollars on flights and hotels".
I remember a gentleman on here a few years back giving a girl 50 k pesos or thereabouts for a weekend trip to boracay. Of course he (and these guys) never think beyond a few inches. These girls will go to their friend groups (online and offline) to brag about finding the golden idiot who paid her all this money for basically nothing (maybe 5 rounds of sex max in those 2-3 days plus food, drinks and entertainment paid for by him), and then word spreads about foreigners being dumb clowns who know nothing about the Philippines and can be charged whatever. Sure, one guy might not do that much damage but a collection of guys in their hundreds behaving this way will definitely change the scene in the short term. Just look at what the passport bros and western union / paypal / wise simps have done to Manila (and pinalove at large) post Covid.
Transporter
11-11-25, 11:57
Was bit bored last night, so I took a walk around my area (malate) to see if there were any casa (s) available. Too my surprise I couldn't find any, I thought I would be able to find something but alas the changing times. I popped my head into a few establishments, and there seems to be a bit of a racket going on in those bars. They may look like buy me drinky bars and ktvs, but there is action in those bars. There are no bar fines that I could find, but a deal can be made to meet on their off days or after shifts, so there is something there if you want to look.
On a side note was in quiapo for some shopping (picked up a solar generator just in case) and had a drink at a bar and was no problem arranging the girl to come out after her shift. The particular bar I was in was 24 hours, and the girls ran 8 hour shifts, so it was quite easy to arrange something for the evening. Just so no one asks later it was 6. 5 k for overnight with the bar girl there. I do not know if it was a good or bad price, as it was the first time I pulled something from a bar in quiapo, it is what it is.
OxygenFresh
11-12-25, 18:57
What is it with PL girls and "Simple" LOL? Many of them describe themselves as simple. Is this some cultural connotation that I don't understand?
WestCoast1
11-12-25, 21:49
What is it with PL girls and "Simple" LOL? Many of them describe themselves as simple. Is this some cultural connotation that I don't understand?Yes it is, and it took me years to decipher / suss out. It means she wants enough income for the following 'simple' items: 1) Food on the table. 2) Roof (non-leaking) over their heads (ala rent). 3) Electric and water bill paid on time. 4) The rare but occasional meal out (fast food is fine); or alternately occasionally 'going around', which is slang for going out to the bar for drinks, food, and / or live band (thrilling for many provincial pinay). 5) Once a year going to the annual brgy or city Festival for hot dog on a stick and a beer (to see and be seen, similar to the County fair in America). 6) Going to Mass. ALL OF THIS IS FOR HER ENTIRE FAMILY. Most of us would consider this basic subsistence living.
There are other things she'd like also, but that pretty much describes it. What she wants, deep down, is for a savior who can provide these things WITHOUT FAIL, month after month. Without enough steady money for these things, pinoy must make choices about which of the above they can NOT have this day / week / month. Girls here routinely have what I call 'rolling emergencies', a series of emergencies each month that change regularly, but usually involve one of the items above. She won't have enough money for #1, 2, and 3 above each month. Which one gets cut out this week?
Interestingly, most pinay are happy when the basics are met.
Great Post. Thanks.
Yes it is, and it took me years to decipher / suss out. It means she wants enough income for the following 'simple' items: 1) Food on the table. 2) Roof (non-leaking) over their heads (ala rent). 3) Electric and water bill paid on time. 4) The rare but occasional meal out (fast food is fine); or alternately occasionally 'going around', which is slang for going out to the bar for drinks, food, and / or live band (thrilling for many provincial pinay). 5) Once a year going to the annual brgy or city Festival for hot dog on a stick and a beer (to see and be seen, similar to the County fair in America). 6) Going to Mass. ALL OF THIS IS FOR HER ENTIRE FAMILY. Most of us would consider this basic subsistence living.
There are other things she'd like also, but that pretty much describes it. What she wants, deep down, is for a savior who can provide these things WITHOUT FAIL, month after month. Without enough steady money for these things, pinoy must make choices about which of the above they can NOT have this day / week / month. Girls here routinely have what I call 'rolling emergencies', a series of emergencies each month that change regularly, but usually involve one of the items above. She won't have enough money for #1, 2, and 3 above each month. Which one gets cut out this week?
Interestingly, most pinay are happy when the basics are met.
Transporter
11-13-25, 03:50
I originally strolled around the bar side where the bar type casas were before and found nothing. Last night I strolled the casa area where all the small casa's use to be and it looks very promising. At present it is in the pre-casa stage where the girls gather. Like before there were casas the girls would sporadically be on the street, then eventually they would gather at the park before moving on to sitting at a "place", then the sitting place would eventually serve alcohol and food and so on and on until it becomes a take out casa (not to be confused with a stay in casa or dorm). Take out casas emerged from serving the locals and usually established on trucking routes and such. Malate before covid used to have a lot of take out type casas. I spent a many years taking advantage of all the different types of casas in my area, unfortunately I could hot pull the trigger and take one for the team last night. I had every intention of pulling one of the girls to get the feel for where its at, but just couldn't do it. The price (full on foreigner price) was 2 k all night, which isn't bad as I think the local price would only get down too 1. 2-1. 5 (my best guess). If; ll things trend up, I would suspect small casas popping up within the next year, if there is no business, then they will probably migrate.
I'll be around for a couple more days, if someone wants to take one for the team, lmk and I will point you over. My regular is coming by today after school, so I won't be able to pursue it till its end. Will check back on it early next year when I am in the area again.
Old And Ugly
11-13-25, 04:06
Yes it is, and it took me years to decipher / suss out. It means she wants enough income for the following 'simple' items: 1) Food on the table. 2) Roof (non-leaking) over their heads (ala rent). 3) Electric and water bill paid on time. 4) The rare but occasional meal out (fast food is fine); or alternately occasionally 'going around', which is slang for going out to the bar for drinks, food, and / or live band (thrilling for many provincial pinay). 5) Once a year going to the annual brgy or city Festival for hot dog on a stick and a beer (to see and be seen, similar to the County fair in America). 6) Going to Mass. ALL OF THIS IS FOR HER ENTIRE FAMILY. Most of us would consider this basic subsistence living.
There are other things she'd like also, but that pretty much describes it. What she wants, deep down, is for a savior who can provide these things WITHOUT FAIL, month after month. Without enough steady money for these things, pinoy must make choices about which of the above they can NOT have this day / week / month. Girls here routinely have what I call 'rolling emergencies', a series of emergencies each month that change regularly, but usually involve one of the items above. She won't have enough money for #1, 2, and 3 above each month. Which one gets cut out this week?
Interestingly, most pinay are happy when the basics are met.You nailed it!
Not even smartgirlphilippines or filipina pea described it so simple and eloquently put.
Old And Ugly
11-13-25, 04:27
I originally strolled around the bar side where the bar type casas were before and found nothing. Last night I strolled the casa area where all the small casa's use to be and it looks very promising. At present it is in the pre-casa stage where the girls gather. Like before there were casas the girls would sporadically be on the street, then eventually they would gather at the park before moving on to sitting at a "place", then the sitting place would eventually serve alcohol and food and so on and on until it becomes a take out casa (not to be confused with a stay in casa or dorm). Take out casas emerged from serving the locals and usually established on trucking routes and such. Malate before covid used to have a lot of take out type casas. I spent a many years taking advantage of all the different types of casas in my area, unfortunately I could hot pull the trigger and take one for the team last night. I had every intention of pulling one of the girls to get the feel for where its at, but just couldn't do it. The price (full on foreigner price) was 2 k all night, which isn't bad as I think the local price would only get down too 1. 2-1. 5 (my best guess). If; ll things trend up, I would suspect small casas popping up within the next year, if there is no business, then they will probably migrate.
I'll be around for a couple more days, if someone wants to take one for the team, lmk and I will point you over. My regular is coming by today after school, so I won't be able to pursue it till its end. Will check back on it early next year when I am in the area again.Excellent post, that's what I'm into it, 1. 5 K-2 K with no time constrains, is the price I think is reasonable for PH. The occasional 5 K splurge is an out of norm thing, more like fancy dining from time to time, but even when doing that I always keep in mind that the girl gets only 2 K.
WestCoast1
11-13-25, 07:07
Throwback from the Manila archive. Sent one of my NCR regulars out one night to roam about and fetch me a new play toy, and she did deliver.
"And her skin's the color mocha" -- Ricky Martin, Livin' la Vida Loca.
Old And Ugly
11-13-25, 08:31
Throwback from the Manila archive. Sent one of my NCR regulars out one night to roam about and fetch me a new play toy, and she did deliver.
"And her skin's the color mocha" -- Ricky Martin, Livin' la Vida Loca.That's exactly how I like them, no more no less.
JBarnes1987
11-13-25, 13:29
Genuinely curious on how you guys are searching for the Instagram models, is there a specific place that you're looking for or a specific search query you're submitting into Instagram to find them? Just looking for some guidance.
Old And Ugly
11-13-25, 19:19
Genuinely curious on how you guys are searching for the Instagram models, is there a specific place that you're looking for or a specific search query you're submitting into Instagram to find them? Just looking for some guidance.I'm not sure but I doubt that anybody is chasing dragons (aka fake stuff).
Hey yall,
So I have a trip to China for work and am looking to take a little party weekend detour to Manila after my business in China having been before. Fell in love with the girls and came at a very expensive price tag the last time as it was all BF girls from club- Maisons and Lips to name a few.
Currently on PL and trying out the online / FL route and I am struggling to get birds lined up for the weekend as reading on here it seems FL are more cost effective but come with their own risks following the daily blogs I see on ISG.
Ideally I don't want to be splurging as much as I did last time (I mean why spend more than you need to right? Strategy I am using as suggested by many on the ISG bible is just being upfront with what I want, so here is my opener "Coming to Manila soon and will be staying at CGG in Makati, will pay 2500 per day with food and drinks". Can anyone advise where I am going wrong? I understand its a numbers game but currently the numbers stack up like so: 50% no response /30% No and the rest with Yes and some demanding higher.
Cheerio.
Nuggy.
Genuinely curious on how you guys are searching for the Instagram models, is there a specific place that you're looking for or a specific search query you're submitting into Instagram to find them? Just looking for some guidance.You will find them on, errrrm, Instagram. Search terms can be the names of the big clubs that they hang out in or the descriptors of their lifestyles: #AquaBeachClub, #PinaGirl, #BeachBabe etc. You can also then disappear down the rabbit warren that is friends of friends. Finding one will make all her friends and people / groups that she subscribers to / by visible.
As you can guess it's a lot of work. The return?? The girls are blistering hot but unbelievably entitled.
Not a market I dabble in but IG model pricing:
.....
Enjoy G.
That's exactly how I like them, no more no less.+1. Long and lean is what I like. 👍.
I'll be around for a couple more days, if someone wants to take one for the team, lmk and I will point you over. My regular is coming by today after school, so I won't be able to pursue it till its end. Will check back on it early next year when I am in the area again.I'm not in town not but I'd appreciate more info on Casas. I've been asking for a while now and I thought they had disappeared.
Something worth investigating on the next trip.
Thanks. G.
Transporter
11-13-25, 23:48
Genuinely curious on how you guys are searching for the Instagram models, is there a specific place that you're looking for or a specific search query you're submitting into Instagram to find them? Just looking for some guidance.DM me, I think I can help you with that.
Transporter
11-13-25, 23:50
I'm not sure but I doubt that anybody is chasing dragons (aka fake stuff).I think everyone is at different stages in their mongering career.
There was a brief 5 year period back 20-25 years ago, when I was going hard for the white tiger. I was putting in maximum effort, but now could absolutely careless.
Transporter
11-14-25, 00:08
I'm not in town not but I'd appreciate more info on Casas. I've been asking for a while now and I thought they had disappeared. Something worth investigating on the next trip. Thanks. G.Its supply an demand, so its always there, just have to find where the demand is. After covid they just all disappeared in malate, but I think that has more to do with the changing of the guard. Back 10-20 years ago, malate was full of Japanese ktvs, resto, shops, and such. Now this place is full of Korean everything, even the road sign says Korean town. I don't think the mass Koreans coming here are into casa, they have their own thing and is regulated by the tours they sign up for. However outside Manila it is plentiful, my general rule is if a city is big enough to have an SM or Rob, then they absolutely have casa. I have never failed to find what I need while traveling all over PI in a city that was big enough to have an SM or Rob.
That being said, the casa situation here in malate here is in its early stages, not sure if the demand will stir growth or not, it may just move into a different area where there is more demand. I'll be here for a couple more days, just hit me up if you need the current info.
Genuinely curious on how you guys are searching for the Instagram models, is there a specific place that you're looking for or a specific search query you're submitting into Instagram to find them? Just looking for some guidance.Mate, I have a lingerie business and we rely on a few trustworthy Insta models to assist us with advertising and promotion in return for product.
The girls can then use our stuff to create content on other platforms, and we can use any photo's they get to promote our range. Basically a handshake deal.
The whole Insta scene has been littered with so-called influencers and opportunistic girls who all copy what all the others do to try and make a buck. Very few succeed due to the huge competition.
Just like every western chick turning her hand to amateur bedroom porn on Only Fans in the hope of making cash.
The Pina's generally don't use Insta.
If you do find one on there, they'll be more of the professional type who won't jump at the chance to blow a foreigner on a chance meet-up.
Or if they lead you along, they'll still try to screw you over at a higher rate with no reward.
Better off playing the field on PL if you ask me.
Just from (vast) experience _ Phil.
Very few succeed due to the huge competition.And that online success actually takes some savy and work. For every girl earning $100 k a month, there are thousands earning nothing. The super successful girls run significant businesses supported by skilled staff. Most girls think that that are going to make it big with a poory lit bedroom, an iPhone, click a few pics and watch the money roll in.
Go watch Caleb Hammer's interview of the OF girl who had millions tune in to watch her sleep. I forget her name. She's got a team of advisors and professional staff around her and speaks knowledgeably about where she invests her earnings and allocating her limited time to activities that deliver the greatest return. Most pinas struggle to put together a Live of them doing laundry only replying when a Super Chat comes in.
Maybe there is the opportunity for guys to come in and manage a few girls and do things properly as OF managers but I could see a porinor running foul of the law and being locked up.
Enjoy. G.
Was bit bored last night, so I took a walk around my area (malate) to see if there were any casa (s) available. Too my surprise I couldn't find any, I thought I would be able to find something but alas the changing times. I popped my head into a few establishments, and there seems to be a bit of a racket going on in those bars. They may look like buy me drinky bars and ktvs, but there is action in those bars. There are no bar fines that I could find, but a deal can be made to meet on their off days or after shifts, so there is something there if you want to look.
On a side note was in quiapo for some shopping (picked up a solar generator just in case) and had a drink at a bar and was no problem arranging the girl to come out after her shift. The particular bar I was in was 24 hours, and the girls ran 8 hour shifts, so it was quite easy to arrange something for the evening. Just so no one asks later it was 6. 5 k for overnight with the bar girl there. I do not know if it was a good or bad price, as it was the first time I pulled something from a bar in quiapo, it is what it is.
I was under the impression that the idea of casas exists primarily in Latin America, visited several of them in Mexico and Colombia, very much intrigued to know that they also exist in Philippines. If you or anyone has info about casas in and around Manila, please do share.
Transporter
11-15-25, 00:44
I was under the impression that the idea of casas exists primarily in Latin America, visited several of them in Mexico and Colombia, very much intrigued to know that they also exist in Philippines. If you or anyone has info about casas in and around Manila, please do share.Granted I've only been doing this a bit over 30 years, so my experience is a small sample size, but casas do exist here in PI. There are a few different kind of casas that I use to frequent a lot. I say use to frequent a lot as a bit over 10 years ago, I stopped going to casas and bars and put about 99% of my attention and take / pulls from online venues. I can explain it in the ways that I categorize them keep in mind that it is not facts, just the way I view things.
Casas I guess is quite a general term, but globally recognized and I break them down into different types. 1) what I consider true casas are dorms, boarding houses and such that you visit, walk around and find a girl to take out, they consist of mostly students, call center girls, factory girls, and out of the city girls that came to work, and are located in many urban areas and around schools and call centers. 2) Semi Pro Casas are just a boarding house that is managed and some of the girls are brought in under contract, a lot of the massage girls you get online operate in such a manner where the manager brings them in from outside and houses them and takes a cut. 3) Pro Casas are sometimes live in but most gather at a location sort of like a fish bowl and you can go in there and choose from a bunch of girls and choose ST or LT. These types of casas usually have the best looking girls but everyone has their hand in the kitty and it annoys me a bit that there is a hand out to everyone. The driver that brought you their, the boy that opens the door, the boy that offers you a drink, the bouncers, managers, and even the lady sweeping the floor wants a tip. Keep in mind it is important to tip the manager (one of the higher ups) and make sure to get his card. Even if you don't pull any girls at that time remember the girls names, and write it down as later it is easy to call the manager and have delivery service 24/7. 4) Bar Casas range from small 4-6 girls to large 40+ girls bar casas. A lot of the girls live in, and may or may not be still on contract. Its one of my favs to go to and use to exist toward UN end of malate. Its great because if you are in a hurry you could just go in, get a roll call and grab what you need or you could get a drink sit and interview girls to your galore. Its basically the same as burgos or ac bars just that many of the girls were brought in under contract and either live their or are housed off site and managed by the bar (although housing arrangements seem similar to some of the other bars the girls seem to have a bit more autonomy). 5) One step above that is where I drop the "casa" as if you drop a lot of money and promotion into a Pro Casa you get a GM club and that is entirely different.
Now where to find them, I've been out of the casa business for over 10 years, so you just got to put out feelers and have a look. Online has been way easier and productive for me, so I haven't found the need to go to any casas in a long time, just was recently curious about them.
Go watch Caleb Hammer's interview of the OF girl who had millions tune in to watch her sleep. I forget her name. My apologies. I didn't realise how ridiculous it was to suggest to go find a random hot girl interview with a guy who has 3000 videos.
I was talking about his interview and financial deep dive with Amouranth.
https://youtu.be/A9-JedX1Et4?si=OoW2lhHCXM05c4Zu
Enjoy. G.
Go watch Caleb Hammer's interview of the OF girl who had millions tune in to watch her sleep. I forget her name. She's got a team of advisors and professional staff around her and speaks knowledgeably about where she invests her earnings and allocating her limited time to activities that deliver the greatest return. Most pinas struggle to put together a Live of them doing laundry only replying when a Super Chat comes in.
Maybe there is the opportunity for guys to come in and manage a few girls and do things properly as OF managers but I could see a porinor running foul of the law and being locked up.
Enjoy. G.I've looked into it G.
We have a lingerie business and use some Aussie models who also have OF accounts.
I've done a few photo shoots in The Phils and have looked into managing a few girls. OF won't allow Filipinas to sign up.
I've tried to guide a few of the prettier ones how to cash in on their looks on Insta and the like. It all goes over their heads.
The Phils is still stuck in the world of Facebook and now they're hooked on Tik Toc. Business sense is very difficult to transfer. They worry about today.
It's not a criticism. It's the way it is when poverty lingers.
I just wish some of them could see the opportunities available.
_ Phil.
Hey yall,
So I have a trip to China for work and am looking to take a little party weekend detour to Manila after my business in China having been before. Fell in love with the girls and came at a very expensive price tag the last time as it was all BF girls from club- Maisons and Lips to name a few.
Currently on PL and trying out the online / FL route and I am struggling to get birds lined up for the weekend as reading on here it seems FL are more cost effective but come with their own risks following the daily blogs I see on ISG.
Ideally I don't want to be splurging as much as I did last time (I mean why spend more than you need to right? Strategy I am using as suggested by many on the ISG bible is just being upfront with what I want, so here is my opener "Coming to Manila soon and will be staying at CGG in Makati, will pay 2500 per day with food and drinks"..Any advice on this guys?
TedFerguson
11-16-25, 11:16
Recently I contact a 9+ on FB out of the blue. She replied and said she was a model. After some dancing around I asked if she was open to meeting up discreetly. She replied possibly yes but what was the allowance? I said 5 k. She replied "I am a model. Starting at 50 k po." I thanked her for her time.
You might have to start at 15 k plus for your criteria.Most of the girls I talked to quoted 20 k+, but went down for 10 k. I'm not yet 40 and reasonably fit. Even so, I don't see myself staying in Manila. The city is a disaster. Basically if a rural US town (depressing, crappy food, fat people with unhealthy habits) had a baby with a Latin American country (crime, dysfunction, guys with guns guarding everything). I've bought so many fruits / vegetables that were essentially flavorless, I'm probably leaving in a week to avoid having the shit vibe impacting mine.
Old And Ugly
11-16-25, 12:54
Most of the girls I talked to quoted 20 k+, but went down for 10 k. I'm not yet 40 and reasonably fit. Even so, I don't see myself staying in Manila. The city is a disaster. Basically if a rural US town (depressing, crappy food, fat people with unhealthy habits) had a baby with a Latin American country (crime, dysfunction, guys with guns guarding everything). I've bought so many fruits / vegetables that were essentially flavorless, I'm probably leaving in a week to avoid having the shit vibe impacting mine.Yes at your age you should have no problem scoring for free in the US. Don't waste your time and money here.
WestCoast1
11-16-25, 12:55
Even so, I don't see myself staying in Manila. The city is a disaster. Basically if a rural US town (depressing, crappy food, fat people with unhealthy habits) had a baby with a Latin American country (crime, dysfunction). Spot on! Quote of the week. Acquired taste. And so on.
(guys with guns guarding everything). There's more. You might have missed something regarding those guns. The guards might have holsters with no gun in it. Or alternately there might be a gun, but no ammunition. Those guards are the 'Barney Fife' of the far east.
Asian Rain
11-16-25, 14:53
I don't see myself staying in Manila. The city is a disaster.No truer words could be said and indeed applies pretty much to the whole country. That being said, there are many who like it that way. Imperfection has its charms.
I'm probably leaving in a week to avoid having the shit vibe impacting mine.Then it is back to Europe and 'Merica for you. So Filipinas weren't able to provide more erudite conversation than the immersive culture discussion you had with the Thai girl about the bum gun? At least your Asian trip will have taught you how to keep a clean ass, so best to count your blessings. Enjoy, AR.
ThaiFriendly also got better. I landed an English speaking college girl who's finishing up her studies and going back to her hometown next week. Great conversation, Thai culture is truly unique in the world. But otherwise visually unimpressive. Most surprising was that the sex as well was mediocre and a bit staged despite the solid conversation and warmup. We did however talk about the water hose attached to the toilet, which is apparently the best way to clean up and toilet paper should only be used to dry (news for me).
Anyhow, my impression remains that finding any kind of connection here is unlikely. And that's unlikely in most Asian countries, for cultural reasons. The cultural homogeneity and racial differences lead people to see themselves as "different" from caucasians. It takes more education and world experience to realize that we're all the same. The one exception in the area (I hope) might be the Philippines, which will be my next destination. I'm betting the overwhelming friendliness of the people there, the Spanish and American influences, will make it easier to find non-transactional experiences in the Asian world.
I've been reading the Manila / Makati forums, and the experiences seem mixed. Some good, but a few reports of scams, setups, harassments. A couple of recent posts even mentioned that visiting now could be a big disappointment especially the freelancer scene. I have never stayed in Manila, but when I visited AC three years ago (went straight from Manila airport), it wasn't like this at all, it was as good as I hoped; I got nagged by LBs, massage ladies, and people asking for tips but never got harassed.
I originally planned 6 nights in Jakarta on my outbound and 4 nights in Manila on the return, because of Ramadan and things can be quiet in Jakarta during that period. But now after reading these recent posts, I'm starting to wonder if it was a good decision to choose Manila or if I should just stay in Jakarta for all 10 nights because it's a known quantity for me and comes with none of this drama.
A couple of recent posts even mentioned that visiting now could be a big disappointment especially the freelancer scene.
I originally planned 6 nights in Jakarta on my outbound and 4 nights in Manila on the return, because of Ramadan and things can be quiet in Jakarta during that period. But now after reading these recent posts, I'm starting to wonder if it was a good decision to choose Manila or if I should just stay in Jakarta for all 10 nights because it's a known quantity for me and comes with none of this drama.What drama? Those disappointed by Manila tend to fall into two categories: the 'scammed' where a fool and his money were soon parted and; those who have their trips planned to the minute and come away downhearted when their holiday didn't operate with military precision.
We've all had disappointing nights and 10's that were in fact 4's in person but just shake it off and move on. Manila specifically and Philippines generally can be great fun but if you are the type of guy who needs to know what will be happening at 7:15 pm Tuesday night, then I'd agree that they aren't for you.
A 6/4 split between Jakarta and Manila sounds about right. They are very similar but the biggest differences is that, post Blok M collapse, Jakarta is a place to go to one venue at a time where as Manila has entertainment areas where you can easily walk from one to another, sampling each. During Ramadan, I would take Manila over Jakarta any year.
Enjoy. G.
Most of the girls I talked to quoted 20 k+, but went down for 10 k. I'm not yet 40 and reasonably fit. Even so, I don't see myself staying in Manila. The city is a disaster. Basically if a rural US town (depressing, crappy food, fat people with unhealthy habits) had a baby with a Latin American country (crime, dysfunction, guys with guns guarding everything). I've bought so many fruits / vegetables that were essentially flavorless, I'm probably leaving in a week to avoid having the shit vibe impacting mine.With respect, if you are repeatedly getting replies that don't suit you, then you are looking in the wrong areas.
There are many many hot girls in the Philippines, some of whom are well educated and can hold a conversation. It's a mistake to assume that every Pina is an illiterate famers daughter, struggling to make ends meet after the local trike driver knocked her up. Obviously 'quality' girls are not going to be found slinging pussy on an overpass somewhere. You need to go where they are. They also have options so you will need to offer something in return beyond offering $20 for a blow job. That could be a proper date, being socially acceptable yourself, cold hard cash or a combination of all of the above.
I'm not sure what your likes and priorities are.
For online, you could try Seeking, IG or Facebook.
For dating apps, try Filipina Cupid or others where the girls have to pay for membership.
For clubs and freelancers, try the Makati and Poblacion clubs.
For organic meet ups, try food halls where regular working girls meet for lunch, BGC cafes and restobars or roof top bars. Note that none of these are going to be point and shoot.
Good luck. G.
Most of the girls I talked to quoted 20 k+, but went down for 10 k. I'm not yet 40 and reasonably fit. Even so, I don't see myself staying in Manila. The city is a disaster. Basically if a rural US town (depressing, crappy food, fat people with unhealthy habits) had a baby with a Latin American country (crime, dysfunction, guys with guns guarding everything). I've bought so many fruits / vegetables that were essentially flavorless, I'm probably leaving in a week to avoid having the shit vibe impacting mine.Under 40 and being fit will not get you a discount or freebie in the PH PNP world. PNP girls are trying pay bills and feed their family. It doesn't sound like Philippines is for you.
Old And Ugly
11-17-25, 10:14
An unknown fact that many westerners don't know, there are few examples in this thread, is that to get a receptionist job in the PH you need a college degree, for other shitty jobs too, including thousands of call center girls. In other words there are a lot, I mean a lot of educated girls. Contrary to the popular believe that they are all uneducated.
WestCoast1
11-17-25, 12:16
An unknown fact that many westerners don't know, there are few examples in this thread, is that to get a receptionist job in the PH you need a college degree, for other shitty jobs too, including thousands of call center girls. In other words there are a lot, I mean a lot of educated girls. Contrary to the popular believe that they are all uneducated.I read a government stat, about a decade ago, that said that pinoy graduating outside engineering or hard sciences can expect to wait about 5-6 years to find gainful employment in their field. Terribly depressing information.
Second item. For the past several days, my AV software picks up every clicked link on ISG (twice each time) as unsafe (see pic). Happens with any browser.
WestCoast1
11-17-25, 12:20
And annuder ting. Tiny, bubbly cuties abound in the big city. Find one. Or go to BKK.
An unknown fact that many westerners don't know, there are few examples in this thread, is that to get a receptionist job in the PH you need a college degree, for other shitty jobs too, including thousands of call center girls. In other words there are a lot, I mean a lot of educated girls. Contrary to the popular believe that they are all uneducated.Sorry to be THAT guy but the attraction of most call center jobs is that they are well paid but don't require a degree. Just the ability to handle hundreds of obnoxious and abusive customers per day calling the Help Desk.
You're correct in saying that it's surprising how many low level jobs require qualifications. The girl selling you socks in SM and fetching you a icecream cone in Jollie Bee is probably a college grad. She probably had to beat out hundreds of other girls to get the job and will be fired after 6 months so that the company doesn't have to pay her any benefits too.
Cheers. G.
TedFerguson
11-17-25, 13:00
The girls so far have been sweet, complacent and above average communicators. However, my limited sample size shows girls generally fit in two categories: (1) locals who while well-intentioned become unreliable by association with so many people who are failures and (2) pros who realize the country is a disaster and have either "worked" outside or are on the path to doing so. For the first group, the term rolling emergencies from a previous post is accurate.
For me, both groups are depressing to associate with. I'm not into pros, and for personal reasons, I can't respect weakness. On the other hand, it's refreshing to have clarity on which cultures do work by seeing those that don't.
Most of the girls I talked to quoted 20 k+, but went down for 10 k. I'm not yet 40 and reasonably fit. Even so, I don't see myself staying in Manila. The city is a disaster. Basically if a rural US town (depressing, crappy food, fat people with unhealthy habits) had a baby with a Latin American country (crime, dysfunction, guys with guns guarding everything). I've bought so many fruits / vegetables that were essentially flavorless, I'm probably leaving in a week to avoid having the shit vibe impacting mine.Mate, if you were getting quotes for 10 - 20 k, you were probably looking in the wrong places or haven't dug deeper into the options available via this forum.
Sure, I agree, Manila can be a shithole, but you can definitely have a good time for a few days and travel quite cheaply to other areas or islands.
If you're an under-40 foreigner and fit as you mention, in some of these places, even Manila, you'd have sex on tap in The Phils with some pretty hot girls _ From experience.
I can't compare the fruit and veggies. Never had a problem with them.
Have always (since my first visit when I was 21/22) been focused on the pussy platter instead.
_ Phil.
Old And Ugly
11-17-25, 17:19
Mate, if you were getting quotes for 10 - 20 k, you were probably looking in the wrong places or haven't dug deeper into the options available via this forum.
Sure, I agree, Manila can be a shithole, but you can definitely have a good time for a few days and travel quite cheaply to other areas or islands.
If you're an under-40 foreigner and fit as you mention, in some of these places, even Manila, you'd have sex on tap in The Phils with some pretty hot girls _ From experience.
I can't compare the fruit and veggies. Never had a problem with them.
Have always (since my first visit when I was 21/22) been focused on the pussy platter instead.
_ Phil.The fruits and veggies are identical in taste with the ones in the USA, just smaller size, and more expensive in the PH.
In both countries the main ingredient in the manufacturing formula seems to be plastic. In addition the PH tomatoes and peppers have the thickest skin on the planet, I think they are engineered for interplanetary travel food supplies.
On the other hand on my island in may-June when the mangoes are ripe, and start falling from the trees on the side of the road, you never tasted something more juicy, full of flavor and aroma, diabetes inducing sweet. I was thinking to experiment making wine or buzz out of them.
What drama? Those disappointed by Manila tend to fall into two categories: the 'scammed' where a fool and his money were soon parted and; those who have their trips planned to the minute and come away downhearted when their holiday didn't operate with military precision.
We've all had disappointing nights and 10's that were in fact 4's in person but just shake it off and move on. Manila specifically and Philippines generally can be great fun but if you are the type of guy who needs to know what will be happening at 7:15 pm Tuesday night, then I'd agree that they aren't for you.
A 6/4 split between Jakarta and Manila sounds about right. They are very similar but the biggest differences is that, post Blok M collapse, Jakarta is a place to go to one venue at a time where as Manila has entertainment areas where you can easily walk from one to another, sampling each. During Ramadan, I would take Manila over Jakarta any year.
Enjoy. G.Thanks for the input. I've decided to stick with my plan of spending 4 nights in Manila and not let someone else's experience change that. From my own experience, Jakarta is easier, cheaper to find girls at a few concentrated spots but harder to have conversations, whereas in Filipino women are easy to talk to because of language and culture. However, I will switch my hotel to Malate from Makati so I can get a taste of authentic Filipino life food, music, transportation, the whole vibe, and closer access to freelancers at Midnight Heaven, G Spot, Robinsons. From what I've read, Makati mostly caters to foreigners with its go-go bars, nightlife, clubs, freelancers in and around P Burgos St are mostly organized streetwalkers controlled by pimps.
Old And Ugly
11-18-25, 02:44
Thanks for the input. I've decided to stick with my plan of spending 4 nights in Manila and not let someone else's experience change that. From my own experience, Jakarta is easier, cheaper to find girls at a few concentrated spots but harder to have conversations, whereas in Filipino women are easy to talk to because of language and culture. However, I will switch my hotel to Malate from Makati so I can get a taste of authentic Filipino life food, music, transportation, the whole vibe, and closer access to freelancers at Midnight Heaven, G Spot, Robinsons. From what I've read, Makati mostly caters to foreigners with its go-go bars, nightlife, clubs, freelancers in and around P Burgos St are mostly organized streetwalkers controlled by pimps.Just a warning: while the pussy is the best in SEA, there is nothing authentic about food or life in general. Music will be the neighborhood karaoke, with the most boring songs you ever heard, handpicked to sound the same, no salt and pepper, no kick to them.
Just a warning: while the pussy is the best in SEA, there is nothing authentic about food or life in general. Music will be the neighborhood karaoke, with the most boring songs you ever heard, handpicked to sound the same, no salt and pepper, no kick to them.Yes, if it wasn't for the pussy, and perhaps the lower cost of living, I doubt any foreigners would come here. I know I wouldn't. Even Filipinos hate their corrupt government and low wages. Hence the high numbers of overseas Filipino workers. High, slow traffic caused by stupid trikes and jeepneys, god awful deafening karaoke, unnecessary bureaucracy, long lines and general lack of Filipino planning for anything more than a day in advance are more reasons to complain about this charming, ill-managed country.
TedFerguson
11-19-25, 13:48
While I haven't sampled the sex in other SEA countries besides Thailand, I can confirm that so far, the sex here has been better than Thailand. In that it's less transactional and less fake (or I just can't tell it's fake). However, the GFE has been lighter than I'm used to perhaps due to my beard. It's well trimmed but "tickles". Has anyone else had this problem?
I may also have discovered a problem to the food. Which is to test drive some girls here for a week, then fly out to somewhere with better food and fly the girl I like in on the weekends. Leaning towards doing that because sensitive stomach has digestive issues here even when I mostly cook at home, and buy from (like the 2) organic markets.
While I haven't sampled the sex in other SEA countries besides Thailand, I can confirm that so far, the sex here has been better than Thailand. In that it's less transactional and less fake (or I just can't tell it's fake). However, the GFE has been lighter than I'm used to perhaps due to my beard. It's well trimmed but "tickles". Has anyone else had this problem?
I may also have discovered a problem to the food. Which is to test drive some girls here for a week, then fly out to somewhere with better food and fly the girl I like in on the weekends. Leaning towards doing that because sensitive stomach has digestive issues here even when I mostly cook at home, and buy from (like the 2) organic markets.I did DFK with 2 bar fined girls, 2 freelancers and 1 massage lady (she was lactating I tasted her milk too) in Angels City, they were as good as the Thai girls (Bangkok, Pattaya, Chiang Mai, Chiang Rai, Phuket).
My overall experience had been very positive with filipino ladies (even outside Philippines), they are less transactional and even though some initially were shy but once the clothes are off they shed the shyness too. During my last visit, one of days I had come 4 times and was meeting 3 lady (that I found through DIA), since I couldn't come and was tired I stopped and sat on the couch. She came over and gave me BBJ after few minutes and made sure I came (her mouth). I would certainly spend more time when I visit next time.
While I haven't sampled the sex in other SEA countries besides Thailand, I can confirm that so far, the sex here has been better than Thailand. In that it's less transactional and less fake (or I just can't tell it's fake). However, the GFE has been lighter than I'm used to perhaps due to my beard. It's well trimmed but "tickles". Has anyone else had this problem?
I may also have discovered a problem to the food. Which is to test drive some girls here for a week, then fly out to somewhere with better food and fly the girl I like in on the weekends. Leaning towards doing that because sensitive stomach has digestive issues here even when I mostly cook at home, and buy from (like the 2) organic markets.
During my last visit, one of days I had come 4 times and was meeting 3 lady (that I found through DIA), since I couldn't come and was tired I stopped and sat on the couch. She came over and gave me BBJ after few minutes and made sure I came (her mouth). I would certainly spend more time when I visit next time.This is pretty common. Especially amongst girls 27+.
Most take it as a personal insult when told that I'm tired and may not be able to finish.
I've had several literally laugh at me and say 'not on my watch' then proceed to ensure that the seeds are spilt.
IMFITP.
G.
I'm going to try out Manila Courtesans based on positive reviews here. Can anyone recommend a particular WG on their roster? I'm looking for someone who is open to photography and a facial. This is explicitly excluded in their website, so I expect it would be the result of some additional financial incentives.
WestCoast1
11-20-25, 00:39
Seventy pounds of good clean fun in the city. Tiny delights await.
Old And Ugly
11-20-25, 04:36
While I haven't sampled the sex in other SEA countries besides Thailand, I can confirm that so far, the sex here has been better than Thailand. In that it's less transactional and less fake (or I just can't tell it's fake). However, the GFE has been lighter than I'm used to perhaps due to my beard. It's well trimmed but "tickles". Has anyone else had this problem?
I may also have discovered a problem to the food. Which is to test drive some girls here for a week, then fly out to somewhere with better food and fly the girl I like in on the weekends. Leaning towards doing that because sensitive stomach has digestive issues here even when I mostly cook at home, and buy from (like the 2) organic markets.Beard, especially short acts like sandpaper, it can seriously irritate sensitive skin if continuously rubbed against. Valid for both sets of lips, pussy and mouth. I used to have beard all my life, I shaved it off 20 years ago when duck dynasty made it fashionable.
Still have to be careful because half day after shaving I'm already a living sanding machine.
Adapt your diet, you're here for pussy, not for epicurean adventures. Plain rice, and some well cooked meat, and veggies, maybe bread. Forget everything else, you should be fine.
Test driving the girls before taking them in a trip is a must.
Keen Eye Joe 1
11-26-25, 01:18
Old-time horn-dog visitors to Manila wax poetically about the Ermita district's heyday, which began its precipitous decline about 25 years ago. Plenty of guys still visit its most prominent club, the Midnight Haven (LA Cafe). But the area used to offer so much more for primarily Western visitors.
My first visit was 20 years ago and continued yearly until I moved here permanently. Fondly I remember Club Amazonia, Speedy Bar, Hussy's, The Bistro, and the Southern Cross bar / hotel, along with a few others whose names escape me. My go-to hotels were the Cherry Blossoms and La Corona. All gone now, with no replacements (except the Dusk to Dawn Bar).
There are still a few foreigner-centric bars left in the area, but only one offers "bar fines" for outside companionship. All have western-style menus with varied types of moderately-priced comfort foods, which is great for us who live here and aren't enamored with Philippine cuisine. My nightly routine is to start with dinner, beers, chatting, and music at one place, then walk (stumble) to another one or two venues. If the evening gets late and I have not yet found / rented a companion, I head to Midnight Haven to find a sure thing.
I would never recommend anyone visit the area explicitly for naughty nightlife, as it's quite limited compared to Makati and Malate. But I always manage to have a good time. Just watch out for the shitty sidewalks.
Here are my opinions about each remaining club (sans Midnight Haven, which has been chronicled extensively in this thread). Locations are easily found on Google Maps.
G-POINT: Great place to relax, play pool, and listen to live music. Easy to chat with other foreigners and pick their brains about available carnal options. Waitresses are generally attractive, but none are barfine-able.
Most nights there are upwards of 5-15 freelance hookers awaiting customers who will buy them a drink (regular price, no surcharge) and hopefully whisk them away for erotic interludes. Similar in scope to the Midnight Haven.
In its prime, there was a nice mix of young and well-seasoned women. Today, the young ones are gone, and the older ones have morphed into well-worn dragons who ask outrageous fees for service. Even my 2 am Beer goggles can't turn them into keepers. But it's perfect for the guy who desires a little sag in their hag.
DUCK INN: Similar to the G-Point, except freelancers are not allowed to ply their wares inside. Waitresses are friendly and talkative, and a sign on the wall states that customers can offer to buy them beverages with a P50 surcharge. None are barfine-able.
MCKIE'S BAR AND RESTAURANT (Toshie's): Another good place to hang out and talk with the guys. Has a "U" shaped bar seating arrangement. Female staff is friendly and most likely a chatty one will ask for an inflated-priced beverage called a Lady's Drink (LD) from which she earns a commission. The problem is the price is a bit steep at P380 and she will remain inside the bartender's area so you can't sit close and cuddle and "explore". No barfines offered here.
Before the Pandemic, Toshie's used to allow outside gals to sit with customers to solicit LDs. Not anymore.
DUSK TO DAWN BAR: Newer and more upscale than other clubs in the area, but with reasonable prices for drinks and food. Friendly and flirty waitresses attired in somewhat skimpy outfits. You can offer to buy one a lady's drink, which she will keep at your table and come back to visit when there are breaks in her duties. No barfines, but conversations indicate that fun is negotiable if you're a persuasive guy, haha.
I've never made contact with any obvious freelancers looking for business, but I'm usually never there alone.
Nice place, located a stone's throw north of the Midnight Haven club.
DAKOTA CABIN: Located across the street from the large Calle 5 Filipino-centric bar complex. Aviation-themed club that centers around the old "C"-47 cargo plane. Friendly owner, friendlier expat patrons. Ownership does not allow unescorted women (freelancers) to sit there. No naughtiness at all, but it's a comfy place to hang.
I heard through the grapevine that ownership changed hands a couple of months ago and the club has been renamed.
THE AUSSIE SLOUCH HAT: I saved the best for last. The complex has two bars and an upstairs hotel. The larger pub is just a regular beer bar with pool tables. No sultry waitresses, but still a relaxing place to down a beverage or three.
The smaller next-door bar is well air-conditioned and has curtains over the windows. On duty are between 4-8 GROs (Guest Relations Officers), typically between 35-45 years old. Two gals on my last visits were definitely in their 50's!
Yeah, I know most guys don't come to the Philippines to hang out with older women. But this bar potentially offers experiences that are tough to find in other places (your mileage may vary, of course).
First, the Slouch Hat is Manila's equivalent of the bar in the old American TV show called "Cheers". It is geared toward the older western expat or frequent Manila visitor who enjoys being remembered and pampered by the staff. There is very little employee turnover there, and many gals stay for several months or years. I visit Manila a couple of times a year and the bartenders and a few of the girls always greet me by name. The attention and remembrance massages my ego.
Second, beverage prices are reasonable for a Manila girlie bar. P120 for a domestic beer and a lady's drink is only P200. The gals normally drink gin and tonic and they definitely are not watered down. A few months ago I bought 5 LD for a gal and she was totally shit-faced by closing time.
The gals are quite chatty and fun and are not pushy about asking for cocktails. They are also instructed by management not to gulp down their drinks.
Third (and most importantly), it is the only pub in the area that has bar fines. Prices are quite fair at P1,500 for short time or P3,000 for all night, which includes the early release fee and payment to the girl.
Short time rooms are available upstairs for P1,000. Be aware that not all girls are willing to be bar-fined, but I have not had one turn me down.
From my perspective, most of the customers are there just to relax and enjoy some attention. More than a few even bring their wives or girl friends, with a couple gals being former Slouch Hat employees.
But I've seen plenty of guys and gals "perving" away at their chairs / stools. And on many occasions, I've engaged in deep french kissing and pelvic area exploring, with nary a disapproving word uttered by anyone there.
As the male bartender there says, "Whatever happens in the bar, stays in the bar".
A couple of years ago, I saw a guy take three ladies away. When I visited a couple of days later, my regular gal said he took them upstairs for a foursome. Hopefully a memorable "Menage a Quatre".
The Slouch Hat appeals more to the attention-seeker than the vagina-slayer. Yes, the women are older and there are no diamonds in the rough, but most are quite accommodating. Prices are reasonable and I consider it to be an okay alternative to the Midnight Haven bar.
One huge advantage is that area hotels are reasonably priced. The local Go Hotel and Red Planet (Manila Bay) room rate is around $35 USA, with the nearby Rosas Garden, Anex, and Airo Hotels around $25. The Anex is right across the street from the Slouch Hat, making short time encounters quite feasible.
Of course, a guy is going to have a lot more fun on Burgos Street in Makati. But not every visitor has a fat bank account. So, if you're a bit underfunded or frugal, Ermita might be for you, as long as you dial down your sexpectations quite a bit. And thanks to the nearby Midnight Haven bar, no one has to go home empty bedded.
Here are my opinions about each remaining club (sans Midnight Haven, which has been chronicled extensively in this thread). Locations are easily found on Google Maps.
Appreciate your efforts in compiling such details. You are right, a lot of Info on Makati / LAC but not much about Malate. I always wondered how the KTVs and MPs fare in that area.
Thanks for the hotel details as well, will try to explore this region when I visit Intramuros.
CageMonkey
11-26-25, 20:01
Old-time horn-dog visitors to Manila wax poetically about the Ermita district's heyday, which began its precipitous decline about 25 years ago. Plenty of guys still visit its most prominent club, the Midnight Haven (LA Cafe). But the area used to offer so much more for primarily Western visitors.
Here are my opinions about each remaining club (sans Midnight Haven, which has been chronicled extensively in this thread). Locations are easily found on Google Maps.
.THANKS Keen eye. I will be spending 5 weeks in Ermita and I was wondering about some of those bars you talked about. Slouch hat seems like a nice place to hang out for a man like me nearing retirement. Not sure I would BF any of the women there but I might when I want a more relaxing fuck and especially if she knows how to please a man, like older working gals do. So again, thanks!
Keen Eye Joe 1
11-27-25, 13:14
THANKS Keen eye. I will be spending 5 weeks in Ermita and I was wondering about some of those bars you talked about. Slouch hat seems like a nice place to hang out for a man like me nearing retirement. Not sure I would BF any of the women there but I might when I want a more relaxing fuck and especially if she knows how to please a man, like older working gals do. So again, thanks!I'm a senior citizen living in the Philippines without a girlfriend, by choice. Women are great, but I doubt I'll ever let one through my front door again.
Not to sound effeminate, but now that I'm older, there are times I miss all the "lovey dovey" stuff. Sitting in a bar next to an attractive lady while drinking a couple of beverages. Having a great conversation with someone who thinks I'm funny and interesting. Holding hands, lightly resting my palm on her thigh as she leans in closer to me, putting our arms around each other, and cuddling, hugging, and kissing a bit. Slowly increasing the familiarity and instilling a bit of trust that I'm not just a lust-crazed swordsman.
Going through the progression from attraction to comfortability to sexiness while letting the alcohol lower our inhibitions.
After sensing she is capable of and willing to satisfy my emotional and sexual desires, offer to pay the barfine and either retreat directly to my room or head out on the town to another club like the nearby Cowboy Grill to drink and listen to the band before hitting the sheets.
Then my world returns to a solitary normalcy once she's exited my hotel room after one or two or twelve hours of bliss.
Most guys reading this forum are aimed primarily toward getting their rocks off. I get it, as I was that guy until a couple of years ago. But for me and obviously plenty of other older bar patrons, we value the "Short Time Girl Friend Experience".
And this is where the Slouch Hat Bar excels for the right patron. I can spend a couple of hours there either gabbing with the gang and / or schmoozing with a solitary bar girl at a wall-side table. Possibly "ring the bell" to buy the house a round of lady's drinks, which is a great P1000 to P1600 investment if you are planning future visits. And it helps that I've been coming there for years and the long-time bartenders will vouch for my reputation as a fairly decent guy.
If it all feels right, then I barfine. If not, I either go back to the hotel and sleep it off or try my luck at the Midnight Haven (LA Cafe). You'd have to either be a picky mo-fo or come across as a primo dickhead not to have success at the Haven.
Finally, can you get all this sitting with a gal at the Midnight Haven? Of course. But remember that hookers there only earn money if you agree to pay her for sexual services, it's all or nothing. At the Slouch Hat, the bar girls earn a daily appearance allowance as well as collecting commissions from the lady's drinks. Easier to enjoy the night and not feel pressured to move things along quickly.
Good luck in your endeavors. Great things can happen with an open mind and open wallet.
Fantastic reports. I've followed your posts in the Manila, Jakarta, and Taipei forums, and I must say, I'm floored by the way you narrate things. I've shared my own reports that are factual but admittedly dry, while yours are poetically captivating. Hats off to you.
I'm a senior citizen living in the Philippines without a girlfriend, by choice. Women are great, but I doubt I'll ever let one through my front door again.
Not to sound effeminate, but now that I'm older, there are times I miss all the "lovey dovey" stuff. Sitting in a bar next to an attractive lady while drinking a couple of beverages. Having a great conversation with someone who thinks I'm funny and interesting. Holding hands, lightly resting my palm on her thigh as she leans in closer to me, putting our arms around each other, and cuddling, hugging, and kissing a bit. Slowly increasing the familiarity and instilling a bit of trust that I'm not just a lust-crazed swordsman.
Going through the progression from attraction to comfortability to sexiness while letting the alcohol lower our inhibitions.
After sensing she is capable of and willing to satisfy my emotional and sexual desires, offer to pay the barfine and either retreat directly to my room or head out on the town to another club like the nearby Cowboy Grill to drink and listen to the band before hitting the sheets.
Then my world returns to a solitary normalcy once she's exited my hotel room after one or two or twelve hours of bliss.
Most guys reading this forum are aimed primarily toward getting their rocks off. I get it, as I was that guy until a couple of years ago. But for me and obviously plenty of other older bar patrons, we value the "Short Time Girl Friend Experience".
And this is where the Slouch Hat Bar excels for the right patron. I can spend a couple of hours there either gabbing with the gang and / or schmoozing with a solitary bar girl at a wall-side table. Possibly "ring the bell" to buy the house a round of lady's drinks, which is a great P1000 to P1600 investment if you are planning future visits. And it helps that I've been coming there for years and the long-time bartenders will vouch for my reputation as a fairly decent guy.
If it all feels right, then I barfine. If not, I either go back to the hotel and sleep it off or try my luck at the Midnight Haven (LA Cafe). You'd have to either be a picky mo-fo or come across as a primo dickhead not to have success at the Haven.
Finally, can you get all this sitting with a gal at the Midnight Haven? Of course. But remember that hookers there only earn money if you agree to pay her for sexual services, it's all or nothing. At the Slouch Hat, the bar girls earn a daily appearance allowance as well as collecting commissions from the lady's drinks. Easier to enjoy the night and not feel pressured to move things along quickly.
Good luck in your endeavors. Great things can happen with an open mind and open wallet.
WestCoast1
11-30-25, 06:50
Province cutie gets to jet to Manila for some Westy time. Slender, booby, and compliant. A much-needed series of vaccinations. Glad to help.
Province cutie gets to jet to Manila for some Westy time. Slender, booby, and compliant. A much-needed series of vaccinations. Glad to help.Jeez you certainly have some 'connections' in The Phils Westie _ Phil.
WestCoast1
11-30-25, 15:48
Jeez you certainly have some 'connections' in The Phils Westie _ Phil.I been practicing. And holding on to my dream.
Radical Guy
12-01-25, 17:16
Province cutie gets to jet to Manila for some Westy time. Slender, booby, and compliant. A much-needed series of vaccinations. Glad to help.Hi Westy, I've noticed that you post a lot of pics of girls who are natural and unshaven. Is that a preference of yours, or is that just random?
I'm visiting the Philippines in a few weeks and can't figure out a tactful way of asking a girl if she has a natural, unshaven pussy, which is my strong preference. I'm not looking for garden variety P4 P girls, but more of a girlfriend experience. Do you find that girls out in the provinces are more likely to stay unshaven. Any tips on this would be appreciated.
RG.
Hi Westy, I've noticed that you post a lot of pics of girls who are natural and unshaven. Is that a preference of yours, or is that just random?
I'm visiting the Philippines in a few weeks and can't figure out a tactful way of asking a girl if she has a natural, unshaven pussy, which is my strong preference. I'm not looking for garden variety P4 P girls, but more of a girlfriend experience. Do you find that girls out in the provinces are more likely to stay unshaven. Any tips on this would be appreciated.
RG.Girls in the provinces, especially those with less exposure to foreigners, are more likely to be eu-natural. However, they don't regard it as a major issue and are happy to arrive which ever way you prefer. Just slip your preference into the conversation without making a big deal about it and that's how she will arrive. Of course, she might need a couple of days notice for growth to return if she's currently shaving.
Remember that Asian girls naturally have less body hair so even years of growth with be very light compared to her western sisters. I've never met an Asian girl who needs to shave her legs for example. There is no hair to remove.
Enjoy. G.
OxygenFresh
12-01-25, 20:38
FR on my second short trip to Manila. As posted earlier in this forum, I was traveling to KL and took a 4 days detour to Manila. This time I stayed at City Garden Grand Hotel, as suggested by the learned counsel here. Absolutely no complaints. They would call me before and after the girl left my room. the way the receptionist asked if everything was ok, i had half a mind of inviting her as well LoL.
Since I had just 4 days, I mainly relied on MC and PL. I realized this time, girls on PL keep oscillating between their province and Manila. Most of them from my last encounter (which was just a month before this trip) were not in Manila. But again, there's always fresh stock to explore, and I found 2 cute Morenas. One of them even decided to stay back for 24 hours, and I had to kick her out after that, since I wanted some variety LOL. She said she prefers my room over a shared accommodation with some cousin. So I told her to bring her cousin along next time LOL.
MC as expected was professional and delivered what it promised.
My only gripe with Manila is food. It just doesn't suit me. I somehow survived on KFC, cheese and crackers, and occasional comfort food at the filling station cafe on Burgos.
Cheers!!
WestCoast1
12-02-25, 00:52
Since I had just 4 days, I mainly relied on MC and PL. I realized this time, girls on PL keep oscillating between their province and Manila. Most of them from my last encounter (which was just a month before this trip) were not in Manila. But again, there's always fresh stock to explore, and I found 2 cute Morenas. One of them even decided to stay back for 24 hours, and I had to kick her out after that, since I wanted some variety LOL. She said she prefers my room over a shared accommodation with some cousin. So I told her to bring her cousin along next time LOL.
MC as expected was professional and delivered what it promised.
Good report. Approximately what was your MC girl's prize?
WestCoast1
12-02-25, 00:59
Hi Westy, I've noticed that you post a lot of pics of girls who are natural and unshaven. Is that a preference of yours, or is that just random?
I'm visiting the Philippines in a few weeks and can't figure out a tactful way of asking a girl if she has a natural, unshaven pussy, which is my strong preference. I'm not looking for garden variety P4 P girls, but more of a girlfriend experience. Do you find that girls out in the provinces are more likely to stay unshaven. Any tips on this would be appreciated.Eu-natural. Unshaven. Not sure what you fellas are talking about.
Yes to what Go said. Pro's, regardless of where, are more likely to be clean.
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