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Erasmus B Dragin
03-27-18, 03:04
...........As for "They never leave before their shift ends, (& there are 2 shifts, so some leave early). "? Um, which is it?...........
...I have used Angel from BB to AC and it was very good. They leave at 11 am I think..........
A personal question as I am (one of the despised) smoker. How has BB handled it? For instance CC versus an A/C gogo? Cheers. SE.Charlie's girls leave when their shift ends. The girls who work the day shift leave in the early evening. Night shift girls leave when the bar closes (midnight? Or are they allowed to stay open later? Sorry, can't recall).
Angel's van to AC leaves the bakery at 2 pm (or a bit earlier if it's full).
I think CC's is exempt from the smoking ban since it's open air. I recall another bar (maybe 20/20?) had a glassed-in smoking room.
Erasmus B Dragin
03-27-18, 03:13
In AC of all places. Good news I hope. Are they undercutting the non Grab greedy pricks (I hope so) or is it just the hailing convenience that sets them apart?
SE.I haven't used Grab trike, so can't comment except to say the cars work well, in my limited experience, in AC. One driver offered his phone number when he learned I was heading to Barreto the next morning, offering me a better rate than if I booked via Grab.
It was announced yesterday that Uber is selling it's SE Asia franchise to Grab in exchange for a stake in the company. Pricing will likely be affected.
SouthEaster
03-27-18, 07:41
EBD thanks for the info as always. Could not recall the exact time Angel goes back to AC but it is cheap comfy and convenient. I wondered about the smoking because I recall a post quite some time ago where one guy was saying you couldn't even light up outdoors at Kokomos on WS. Seems worse than the west!
SE.
Erasmus B Dragin
03-28-18, 06:58
Everyone knows that "barfine" is a dirty word in Barreto. Instead, you might ask the value of the drink commissions your prospective amour du jour must earn before she can accompany you (to dinner)! Here's Mango's explanation of this ridiculous work around.
I recall being told a few years back that there was no more barfine. If I wanted company, said the mama, I had to buy the girl 10 drinks. No problem, I replied; I had already bought her 3. But those didn't count, I was told, nor could she drink the 10 drinks I had to buy her. By pure coincidence the value of the virtual drinks was exactly equal to the barfine of a few months earlier.
Speaking of Mango's, Tommo's 3rd project was sold to a Brit late last year. It has the look & feel of Blue Rock, Arizona, etc; similar menu, dive shop, even the rooms are reminiscent. Another Brit bought T Rose, previously owned by a German, about the same time.
Erasmus B Dragin
03-28-18, 09:01
Wild Orchid has been the largest hotel in Barretto for ages, but that will change soon. This project broke ground right in the middle of Manga Beach around 2 years ago & is nearing completion. It will have a large, 2 story atrium & looks like it will be quite nice. I was told it's the project of a group from AC.
Does anyone have any additional info?
Next door, By The Sea is building an annex as well, so the number of hotel rooms in Barretto will increase substantially this year.
Shining Wit
03-28-18, 18:56
Thanks for the info, EBD.
Is the new development you mentioned the one opposite Landlocked, or whatever it is now called, - the bar upstairs with the balcony overlooking National Highway across from the beach side?
Might this be the one that Lewis Yokich was planning? If it is, I would not recommend asking too many questions.
Regarding Mango's, in a way I am not surprised. When I was in Barretto in November, Tommo was having difficulty getting around because of his legs, so selling up and probably retiring makes sense. Also gives some context to the e-mail I received in October from Linked-In saying that Gercheann wanted to add me to her circle of contacts. I didn't think that my good looks, charm, wit and sparkling personality were the cause, and as I have nothing to offer on that site, I let it lie.
At SouthEaster.
With regard to smoking, this was the position when I was there.
Arizona. Allowed in rooms, despite notices therein. I did book as a smoking room. Otherwise, there is a table and chairs on the beach or a corner of the car park.
Cheap Charlies. Allowed (or tolerated) along the outside, but cannot remember about the bar itself.
Mango's has a small smoking area of tables and chairs alongside the beach.
My regular watering hole permitted smoking outside, and inside at the bar the ashtrays were 'disguised'.
Also bear in mind that Olongapo City has an Ordinance banning smoking in the street. When my bus from Manila arrived, it could not get in the stand and reversed into Victory Liner's yard. I got off and lit up, and was told I could not, despite standing next to the bus with the engine running, pumping out diesel fumes. Go figure.
SouthEaster
03-29-18, 06:02
EBD,
I heard that it was going to cater to Koreans. I cannot recall who told me so take it with a grain of salt. If so will a Korean invasion be next? I fucking hope not!
Shining Wit thanks for the smoking update. It is so bloody hot in May I hope my watering hole of choice disguises the ashtrays too. Otherwise I will be heading out only after sunset except for lunch!
SE.
Erasmus B Dragin
03-31-18, 07:10
Thanks for the info, EBD.
Is the new development you mentioned the one opposite Landlocked, or whatever it is now called, - the bar upstairs with the balcony overlooking National Highway across from the beach side?
Might this be the one that Lewis Yokich was planning? If it is, I would not recommend asking too many questions.
Regarding Mango's, in a way I am not surprised. When I was in Barretto in November, Tommo was having difficulty getting around because of his legs, so selling up and probably retiring makes sense. Also gives some context to the e-mail I received in October from Linked-In saying that Gercheann wanted to add me to her circle of contacts. I didn't think that my good looks, charm, wit and sparkling personality were the cause, and as I have nothing to offer on that site, I let it lie.........Right. The new hotel is across the street from that bar, now called Rolling Stone. You can see it's relative location on the beach in the first pic I posted from Mangrove.
As for Louis Yakich (his legal name), The Cliffs is the one which his company (aided by disreputable real estate broker Chat Bitangcol) tried to grab. It's located on the hilltop overlooking the intersection of national highway 306 (main Road through BB) & Baloy Long Beach Rd. The Cliffs is 1/2 km west of the new hotel I mentioned.
Tommo's MO has always been to buy money losing places, fix them up & turn them around, then sell them. I heard he was already looking for another place well before Mango's sold.
Erasmus B Dragin
03-31-18, 07:17
EBD,
I heard that it was going to cater to Koreans. I cannot recall who told me so take it with a grain of salt. If so will a Korean invasion be next? I fucking hope not!
Shining Wit thanks for the smoking update. It is so bloody hot in May I hope my watering hole of choice disguises the ashtrays too. Otherwise I will be heading out only after sunset except for lunch!
SE.Possibly. I have noticed a few Koreans in Barretto in the last year or so, but only a few. I've also met families on recent visits; a Korean couple with 2 small kids at Mangrove, an overseas Filipino family staying at iCove while visiting family nearby in Calapandyan. The market is still at least 80% single male westerners, though.
We should know soon enough. From the looks of it, it will be opening within a few months.
I'm a regular visitor to PH, with a preference for Cebu, but I visited Subic for the first time last December and was really disappointed in the bar scene and night options in general. Was staying with my honey from Isabela and she's into picking up girls and even she couldn't find an attractive one to play with! I did prefer the more casual feel compared to AC and the hotel had a great little pool during the day when we weren't fucking. I had the most fun at Cheap Charlies both during the day and at night when more crowded. The Pom running it was great fun and very friendly. But I'd struggle to go back when their are so many other places to try. That's my thoughts anyway.
Subic has been very quite since I've been here for the last week. On the nights I went bar hopping, there was generally only one or two other customers in the places I visited. I didn't see any truly stunning girls anywhere. The best I saw I would rate as a 7 ish.
Luckily I had numbers for girls I met last tip so I made use of them for most of the stay. One was free the other was 2 k per night.
The exception was a spinner I picked up from a small bar across from The Pub (sorry, forgot it's name). She had a tight little body but a totally lacklustre performance for 2 k all night.
I also staggered into T Rose one night on the way back from a bar hop for supposedly one last beer. That turned into a double header BJ in one of the booths for 1 k each. It was about 10 pm and they close early at 11 pm. Supposedly I was the only LDs bought for the night. I tended to believe this as the crowds were so light that night and the bar is off the main strip.
SouthEaster
04-06-18, 06:44
You will always find the beach a little less attractive when you bring your own sand!
SE.
ConquerorVal
04-08-18, 18:07
Stayed in Subic for couple of nights last month, and it was more than enough. Unless you are into water related activities, the best thing is just the general layback atmosphere. I found the expats friendlier than in AC. The girl choices were limited however managed to get a girl for each of the nights. Both in mid to late 20's, but the service I received from these ladies was better than in AC and definitely more GFE. This girl was the highlight of my two week stay in the country. Subic is ok to visit with a girl, but you must really like her haha. Will not be returning any time soon.
Member #1088
04-09-18, 16:01
Stayed in Subic for couple of nights last month, and it was more than enough. Unless you are into water related activities, the best thing is just the general layback atmosphere. I found the expats friendlier than in AC. The girl choices were limited however managed to get a girl for each of the nights. Both in mid to late 20's, but the service I received from these ladies was better than in AC and definitely more GFE. This girl was the highlight of my two week stay in the country. Subic is ok to visit with a girl, but you must really like her haha. Will not be returning any time soon.I think I saw both of them in Date in asia, LOL LOL.
Member #4698
04-09-18, 17:52
Stayed in Subic for couple of nights last month, and it was more than enough. Unless you are into water related activities, the best thing is just the general layback atmosphere. I found the expats friendlier than in AC. The girl choices were limited however managed to get a girl for each of the nights. Both in mid to late 20's, but the service I received from these ladies was better than in AC and definitely more GFE. This girl was the highlight of my two week stay in the country. Subic is ok to visit with a girl, but you must really like her haha. Will not be returning any time soon.Hey ConquerorVal, I think you summed up Subic pretty well, but I have one question: if you managaed to find a couple of nice girls for your nights, who gave better service GFE-wise than the usual in AC, and I assume they were cheaper too, AND you found the Subic vibe more laid back, then why do you feel you won't be returning any time soon? Don't get me wrong, I kind of feel the same way, but then I am a Manila kind of guy and I prefer the big city over both AC & Subic. I also prefer BKK over Pattaya. Nonetheless, I have always enjoyed my Subic side trips and I usually spend 5 or 6 days there.
It's too bad they don't have a nice clean beach, but then if they did it wouldn't be Subic. LOL.
ConquerorVal
04-10-18, 04:06
I think I saw both of them in Date in asia, LOL LOL.The photo is of the same girl, with the more recent picture being one with the perm curls. Got her photo from her Facebook account, since I did not take one myself. Met her at the Voodoo bar. She was sweet as pie, and insisted I eat her out on a couch. Girl after my heart.
ConquerorVal
04-10-18, 04:25
why do you feel you won't be returning any time soon? Don't get me wrong, I kind of feel the same way, but then I am a Manila kind of guy and I prefer the big city over both AC & Subic. I also prefer BKK over Pattaya.I am very much a city boy. Live in a big city and enjoy it more than smaller venues. When I monger, I seek stimulation, and not relaxation. Lights, music, noise, pussy, alcohol- that is what I need. I don't seek romance or slower pace for which Subic may be ok. The only reason I don't go to Manila is because the city is not particularly interesting, and the barfines are way too expensive. I only go to AC because of the sheer number of pussy. Otherwise, it holds nothing of interest for me. Bangkok is my favourite big city in the whole wide world, but I don't mind Pattaya, because again of all the girls there and the place has an overall enjoyable atmosphere, and many more entertainment options than AC or Subic.
Erasmus B Dragin
04-10-18, 08:20
?......I also staggered into T Rose one night on the way back from a bar hop for supposedly one last beer. That turned into a double header BJ in one of the booths for 1 k each. It was about 10 pm and they close early at 11 pm. Supposedly I was the only LDs bought for the night. I tended to believe this as the crowds were so light that night and the bar is off the main strip.It's hard to get out of T Rose without a BJ (no pun intended). In your case it may not have mattered since you were the only customer, but for the uninitiated, T Rose has ST rooms in the back. It you're planing more than a quickie or prefer something a bit less, uh. Plebeian? The hotel just across Ifugao St (straight ahead when you walk out the door) offers ST rates. The rooms are cleaner & more spacious. Take 2-3 companions; no one will bat an eye.
Again for the uninitiated, in bar bjs are standard MO at T Rose & Count Nickolas. At the later, though, many of the staff falatrix aren't female. Best to avoid in an inebriated state after a long bar hop.
Fast Eddie 48
05-03-18, 23:18
Stayed in Subic for couple of nights last month, and it was more than enough. Unless you are into water related activities, the best thing is just the general layback atmosphere. I found the expats friendlier than in AC. The girl choices were limited however managed to get a girl for each of the nights. Both in mid to late 20's, but the service I received from these ladies was better than in AC and definitely more GFE. This girl was the highlight of my two week stay in the country. Subic is ok to visit with a girl, but you must really like her haha. Will not be returning any time soon.To Conquerroy val.
It is more like once is enough like you said there are just so many more girl in AC and only one HR away, the beach and swimming is just so so and I been here twice don't think of any other reason for me to come back any time soon.
Fast Eddie 48.
Went there 2 years ago while barhopping with an Arizona barfine and there were 2 LBs and about 6 girls. Met up with the same Arizona girl (now retired) last week and so we went back in. They were all LBs. It was fine and you can get a slightly better / different conversation out of them. If I'd been on my own though I guess it might have been less droll & amusing.
SouthEaster
05-05-18, 09:52
Just rolled into BB around noon today. Decided to have a couple at Cheap Charlies in the afternoon and watch the world go by. Shut. WTF? I popped into Sit and Bull annex and asked what happened. She seemed a bit clueless but sounds like lack of custom. Far from the end of the world but it was a good place to start an evening or have a hassle free afternoon session people watching and the music was usually good. Oh well.
SE.
I am very much a city boy. Live in a big city and enjoy it more than smaller venues. When I monger, I seek stimulation, and not relaxation. Lights, music, noise, pussy, alcohol- that is what I need. I don't seek romance or slower pace for which Subic may be ok. The only reason I don't go to Manila is because the city is not particularly interesting, and the barfines are way too expensive. I only go to AC because of the sheer number of pussy. Otherwise, it holds nothing of interest for me. Bangkok is my favourite big city in the whole wide world, but I don't mind Pattaya, because again of all the girls there and the place has an overall enjoyable atmosphere, and many more entertainment options than AC or Subic.Your Inbox is full, I can't PM you, no one can PM you.
Do you know of an alternative to Subic, in the Philippines? An alternative to what Subivc used to be?
Does anyone have experience of Subic, 5+ years ago and know an alternative? Preferably one in the PH?
Do you know of an alternative to Subic, in the Philippines? An alternative to what Subivc used to be?
Does anyone have experience of Subic, 5+ years ago and know an alternative? Preferably one in the PH?In what sense? If your looking for girls with some diving, then Sabang / Puerto Galera is the only one that jumps to mind. Remember that it is much smaller than Subic and has become a little jaded compared to 5+ years ago.
If your looking for diving / beaches with girls readily available most guys are importing from manila or cebu rather than risk their chances at the quiet beach towns.
Of course, if your happy with big cities then Cebu has a lot to offer.
I've popped into Subic and it's never been known for lookers. It used to be less expensive but not anymore as they have eliminated BFs. Now the bars allow their BGs to name their prices which always start at 3 to 5 K. I was there early 17 and the pickings were slim and no BFs. I was also there 5 years ago when there had low BFs 1,200 to 1,500. Now they have Fields pricing and much less talent.
Last year I went back to PG and was surprised at the numbers and quality of the BGs. There's about 5 bars w / around 30 + BGs each available. I'll be heading back there this summer. BFs are 3 K and the women are more friendly than in AC. PG is harder to get to than Subic but at least there's something there that's nice.
A few shots of PG.
Erasmus B Dragin
05-30-18, 08:48
SE, let this be a lesson; when someone seems clueless, get a 2nd opinion. I posted here a couple of months ago that CC's was in the process of opening a new place nearby. I was told, at the time, that they intended to keep the old place as well, but they apparently changed their minds. They've simply moved, maybe 20 M west of the old location. Otherwise same same, incl view from up above.
Just rolled into BB around noon today. Decided to have a couple at Cheap Charlies in the afternoon and watch the world go by. Shut. WTF? I popped into Sit and Bull annex and asked what happened. She seemed a bit clueless but sounds like lack of custom. Far from the end of the world but it was a good place to start an evening or have a hassle free afternoon session people watching and the music was usually good. Oh well.
SE.
I've popped into Subic and it's never been known for lookers. It used to be less expensive but not anymore as they have eliminated BFs. Now the bars allow their BGs to name their prices which always start at 3 to 5 K. I was there early 17 and the pickings were slim and no BFs. I was also there 5 years ago when there had low BFs 1,200 to 1,500. Now they have Fields pricing and much less talent.
Last year I went back to PG and was surprised at the numbers and quality of the BGs. There's about 5 bars w / around 30 + BGs each available. I'll be heading back there this summer. BFs are 3 K and the women are more friendly than in AC. PG is harder to get to than Subic but at least there's something there that's nice.
A few shots of PG.Beach is subic is shit, Beach at LaLaguna is good, snorkeling / diving excellent, food good, everything in walking distance but have to fight with Koreans and their "tactics" over girls.
Also found performance is not that great. Best bar. Coco lips (for perf) I found.
Member #4698
05-30-18, 17:38
Beach is subic is shit, Beach at LaLaguna is good, snorkeling / diving excellent, food good, everything in walking distance but have to fight with Koreans and their "tactics" over girls.
Also found performance is not that great. Best bar. Coco lips (for perf) I found.But if the performance is not great. Why go? OK I get it. That was a rhetorical question. The scuba diving IS worthwhile and given PG's relatively close proximity to MNL; that is reason enough to visit and then there is the added bonus of a nightly girly bar scene to enhance the trip even further. But it should be noted that there are plenty of superior dive spots scattered around the PI as there are better beaches and better girly bar destinations. Unfortunately, these better diving and beach destinations require more time and effort getting there and they are definitely BYO girl kind of places. So Sabang Beach, Puerto Galera has something unique to offer: it may not be the best diving, beach, or bar whoring destination in the PI, but it is a fairly good combo of the three.
I've popped into Subic and it's never been known for lookers. It used to be less expensive but not anymore as they have eliminated BFs. Now the bars allow their BGs to name their prices which always start at 3 to 5 K. I was there early 17 and the pickings were slim and no BFs. I was also there 5 years ago when there had low BFs 1,200 to 1,500. Now they have Fields pricing and much less talent.
Last year I went back to PG and was surprised at the numbers and quality of the BGs. There's about 5 bars w / around 30 + BGs each available. I'll be heading back there this summer. BFs are 3 K and the women are more friendly than in AC. PG is harder to get to than Subic but at least there's something there that's nice.I was a little sad after reading Socker's latest Subic field report. Like him, I used to enjoy taking a week-long Subic side trip from AC every once in a while, although my last visit was in 2015. What I liked best about Subic was that it was laid-back & easy going and far less tourist oriented mongering wise than AC. I always found the Barretto bar girls to be super friendly and GF. The EWR was still in full force the last time I was there and cheaper than the comparable EWR in AC. And although girl quality was never equal to what I can score in MNL or in the better, more expensive AC bars, there was always a couple of very sexy doable Pinays in most of the Subic bars I frequented and it was just nice to be on the bay, relax, and feel the sea breeze at night while having a drink on one of the floating bars even if I never ever would take a swim in the ocean there. But getting rid of the EWR and Subic quality girls asking what they are now asking gives me pause.
So, I will probably continue to visit MNL exclusively and not head back to AC or Subic until l I take my long-planned Luzon Road trip up to Pagupud and the Blue Lagoon. I plan to set aside 10 to 14 days for that trip and to begin and end it in AC with stop offs for few days in Subic and a couple of other places with bars nearby along the coast on the way north. I am looking forward to it. No girls along for the ride on this one! I will take what I find. 555. It should be fun.
But if the performance is not great. Why go? OK I get it. That was a rhetorical question. The scuba diving IS worthwhile and given PG's relatively close proximity to MNL; that is reason enough to visit and then there is the added bonus of a nightly girly bar scene to enhance the trip even further. But it should be noted that there are plenty of superior dive spots scattered around the PI as there are better beaches and better girly bar destinations. Unfortunately, these better diving and beach destinations require more time and effort getting there and they are definitely BYO girl kind of places. So Sabang Beach, Puerto Galera has something unique to offer: it may not be the best diving, beach, or bar whoring destination in the PI, but it is a fairly good combo of the three.
I was a little sad after reading Socker's latest Subic field report. Like him, I used to enjoy taking a week-long Subic side trip from AC every once in a while, although my last visit was in 2015. What I liked best about Subic was that it was laid-back & easy going and far less tourist oriented mongering wise than AC. I always found the Barretto bar girls to be super friendly and GF. The EWR was still in full force the last time I was there and cheaper than the comparable EWR in AC..Unfortunately I think the Subic model is spreading to AC as the PI laws regarding BFs is just like their law against prostitution. It's allowed until any given day the authorities need to beat their chest. The bar owners are under constant threat of raids using the EWR system and bar personnel are under the threat of significant jail time. That's the motivation in Subic for trying a different mo. For me it wrecks the fun a bit having to negotiate w the BG right off the bat but that's how it was in Subic last year. Not a big problem for local mongers but for tourist it is imo.
In PG last year I went into 3 bars. I forget the names but there were a lot of ladies to choose from. The BG I took from Coco Lips (I think) was very sweet and the service was memorable. It was at the end of Ramadan so I would avoid that time of year to go unless you like loud school marching bands and crowded narrow streets not to mentioned motorcycle taxi daredevils.
Natty, tried to PM you 2 months ago and your box is full.
Care to elaborate please.
I've popped into Subic and it's never been known for lookers. It used to be less expensive but not anymore as they have eliminated BFs. Now the bars allow their BGs to name their prices which always start at 3 to 5 K. I was there early 17 and the pickings were slim and no BFs. I was also there 5 years ago when there had low BFs 1,200 to 1,500. Now they have Fields pricing and much less talent.
Last year I went back to PG and was surprised at the numbers and quality of the BGs. There's about 5 bars w / around 30 + BGs each available. I'll be heading back there this summer. BFs are 3 K and the women are more friendly than in AC. PG is harder to get to than Subic but at least there's something there that's nice.
A few shots of PG.The pricing differs a lot from bar to bar. The ones in the middle (Dryden Group) are mostly 3 k. Sometimes I get them down to 2. 5 k.
All the other ones are between 1. 5-2. 5 k.
Then there is hotzone where every Girl that does a show is 3 k (not matter the looks) all other are 2 k.
The pricing differs a lot from bar to bar. The ones in the middle (Dryden Group) are mostly 3 k. Sometimes I get them down to 2. 5 k.
All the other ones are between 1. 5-2. 5 k.
Then there is hotzone where every Girl that does a show is 3 k (not matter the looks) all other are 2 k.I assume the BGs were quoting you the above prices. I'd rather not play that game unless I have to. If it spreads to other towns it'll reck P4P in the PI IMO.
Until last year Subic was a popular funky seaside town and the bars fines were cheap. Now it's just a funky seaside town not worth the small effort to get there.
I was in BB April / May and spent a lot of time but less money in Cheap Charlies. A draught SML for me and a LD was just $2. 70. Two days after I left I heard it was closed down allegedly due to the staircase suddenly being deemed as too narrow and / or them being behind with paperwork. I'd already been to Aloha 40 seconds along the road and not liked it as much. Same set-up of roof terrace but bigger and there was something about the squeeze in ChCh that made it more friendly.
Anyone know what Aloha's prices are and if they still sell draught? And how many of the staff from Charlies moved there?
....Two days after I left I heard it was closed down allegedly due to the staircase suddenly being deemed as too narrow and / or them being behind with paperwork...?After filing a stack of blue coloured pieces of paperwork over the correct palms the staircase became wider?
You would think so but not this time apparently. Still closed, or so I hear.
Can anyone confirm there is typhoon flooding in Olangapo? Thanks.
Can anyone confirm there is typhoon flooding in Olangapo? Thanks.I texted a couple girls in Angeles and they confirmed news reporting of typhoon rain and flooding there. To what degree they don't know or weren't able to communicate it to me.
Hope your concerned ones are safe and dry.
Can anyone confirm there is typhoon flooding in Olangapo? Thanks.Another girl in Angeles with her family living in Zambales confirmed there was a typhoon there.
It is ok to send requested rescue and repair money. This girls family home suffered severe roof damage and flooding. Probably 3-5k for repairs.
Btw, as of 00:45, Saturday PH time typhoon is still active there.
Erasmus B Dragin
06-17-18, 17:42
Another girl in Angeles with her family living in Zambales confirmed there was a typhoon there.
It is ok to send requested rescue and repair money. This girls family home suffered severe roof damage and flooding. Probably 3-5k for repairs.
Btw, as of 00:45, Saturday PH time typhoon is still active there.Well, not exactly. Tropical storm Domeng swept through the Philippines last week, bringing with it lots of rain & flooding in flood-prone areas. It never made landfall and passed well east of PI, but it's outter reaches brought torrential rainfall, the worst of which was in central Luzon. Olongapo had some flooding, and there was even a foot or two of water in the lowest area of Barreto.
By this time last week Domeng was several hundred km north of PI when it actually reached typhoon status, but continued to spawn rain in Luzon until late this afternoon (6/17). Water levels are still high; virtually all of Manga Beach is underwater & most of Baloy. Only guys I saw in the ocean were a few surfers in Baloy.
Well, not exactly. Tropical storm Domeng swept through the Philippines last week, bringing with it lots of rain & flooding in flood-prone areas. It never made landfall and passed well east of PI, but it's outter reaches brought torrential rainfall, the worst of which was in central Luzon. Olongapo had some flooding, and there was even a foot or two of water in the lowest area of Barreto.
By this time last week Domeng was several hundred km north of PI when it actually reached typhoon status, but continued to spawn rain in Luzon until late this afternoon (6/17). Water levels are still high; virtually all of Manga Beach is underwater & most of Baloy. Only guys I saw in the ocean were a few surfers in Baloy.I stand corrected. Only torrential rain flooding.
I stand corrected. Only torrential rain flooding.I have found that the locals call any heavy rain a typhoon. This past week it was simply the edges of a tropical storm that spawned the heavey rainfall. The actual storm, as mentioned was not a typhoon when near the Philippines.
Erasmus B Dragin
06-18-18, 23:47
I was in BB April / May and spent a lot of time but less money in Cheap Charlies. A draught SML for me and a LD was just $2. 70. Two days after I left I heard it was closed down allegedly due to the staircase suddenly being deemed as too narrow and / or them being behind with paperwork. I'd already been to Aloha 40 seconds along the road and not liked it as much. Same set-up of roof terrace but bigger and there was something about the squeeze in ChCh that made it more friendly.
Anyone know what Aloha's prices are and if they still sell draught? And how many of the staff from Charlies moved there?As I mentioned in a previous post, Cheap Charlie's moved just west of it's old location last month. It's now just opposite Rico's, slightly east of the intersection with Del Pilar St. Same MO, same waitresses plus a few new ones since the new place is larger. Two ladies confirmed that it was open the day after the old place closed.
Soapy Smith
06-19-18, 04:28
I have found that the locals call any heavy rain a typhoon. This past week it was simply the edges of a tropical storm that spawned the heavey rainfall. The actual storm, as mentioned was not a typhoon when near the Philippines.And they often refer to monsoon effects as typhoons. These are very different storm systems. Typhoons (and slightly slower tropical cyclone-type storms) come off the Pacific moving in a westerly or north westerly direction. They pack much stronger winds, and because they move faster, the winds do not tend to pick up as much water off the sea. Monsoons come off the South China Sea, moving slowly in a north easterly direction, typically over Luzon. Like typhoons, their wind systems are circular (counter-clockwise if they're north of the Equator), but because these storms move more slowly they suck up great amounts of water off the sea and drop it on land as torrential rain.
Since typhoon and monsoon seasons coincide, their effects sometimes exacerbate each other. If there is active monsoon activity, a typhoon moving north westerly across Luzon can cause the monsoon to sit stationary on the South China Sea and continuously suck up water and dump it along the western side of Luzon. I'm not in country as are KG and Dg, but I'm wondering if this happened in the flooding around Olongapo.
I assume the BGs were quoting you the above prices. I'd rather not play that game unless I have to. If it spreads to other towns it'll reck P4P in the PI IMO.
Until last year Subic was a popular funky seaside town and the bars fines were cheap. Now it's just a funky seaside town not worth the small effort to get there.Actually they were mostly quoting the right Price. Some princes sometimes thinks she is Special and quotes 4 k.
But I also got Friends there and I am there quite often. So the Girls know that I know the Price structure.
And for everyone who is still woundering why Cheap Charies closed. The owner wanted a better place.
So when I talked to him in December. Aloha was planned to have rooftop bar on top. Aircon bar in the middle and kitchen on Ground Floor.
Not sure if he executed all of this.
So its simply a move to a bigger and better place.
Actually they were mostly quoting the right Price. Some princes sometimes thinks she is Special and quotes 4 k.
But I also got Friends there and I am there quite often. So the Girls know that I know the Price structure.
And for everyone who is still woundering why Cheap Charies closed. The owner wanted a better place.
So when I talked to him in December. Aloha was planned to have rooftop bar on top. Aircon bar in the middle and kitchen on Ground Floor.
Not sure if he executed all of this.
So its simply a move to a bigger and better place.I just returned from there. Alohha Bar is actually renamed partially on the front to Cheap Charlies again.
A Restaurant on the Ground Floor, an bar in the middle and the Roof top bar on top. About 40% were still the same Girls some migrated to the barreto Sports bar.
The Setup is the same just a Little bigger.
The Price structure for the bars is written before.
Dryden Group bars in the centre (Lolipop, Wet spot, Man gave, Jum Jungle) is 3 k often negotiable to 2. 5 k.
The other bars between 2 and 2. 5 k down to 1. 5 k at score bar.
Short time about 0,5 k to 1 k less.
I had a very good run this time Girls wise. The weather same crap though so the diving was mostly cancled which left me more time for morning activities.
Tommo of Arizona and then Mango died from complications after falling off his yacht a few weeks ago. Not the worst way to go.
RIP.
I just returned from there. Alohha Bar is actually renamed partially on the front to Cheap Charlies again.
A Restaurant on the Ground Floor, an bar in the middle and the Roof top bar on top. About 40% were still the same Girls some migrated to the barreto Sports bar.
The Setup is the same just a Little bigger.
The Price structure for the bars is written before.
Dryden Group bars in the centre (Lolipop, Wet spot, Man gave, Jum Jungle) is 3 k often negotiable to 2. 5 k.
The other bars between 2 and 2. 5 k down to 1. 5 k at score bar.
Short time about 0,5 k to 1 k less.
I had a very good run this time Girls wise. The weather same crap though so the diving was mostly cancled which left me more time for morning activities.Hello,
Thanks for the latest situation.
I was at cheap charlies maybe 8 months ago and 3 years ago both times at the afternoon.
I had the impression it was a kind of free lancer beerbar Girls more buizy with each other like in LA cafe / G point.
Specially cause I was with my fiancee last time it was a nasty experience.
Just 1 or 2 houses to the north on the same site of the street is a bar with a dancing pole.
The white owner sits in front of the bar on a table outside I think Australian (slim man).
I could select my own music on my phone and my girl could dance on the pole floor.
I had so good time regretfully I forget the name (on google I see sit and bul but is different name).
A drink was just 60 p. Well we com back October!
It's do hard to find a nice bar when you com in with an own girl.
Many think she is a prostitute and some white try to lift her miniskirt and call hey my love to her.
The bikini bar near office with the steps down before you enter the bar was also couple friendly.
There she could dance with the bargirls on the dancefloor.
Also in Angeles many bars suck when you come in with a girl.
Just try it once barhopping with a girl from another city.
Than you see the real faces of the girls.
Maybe score bar is nice for us based on what I read here.
So we go there (for the first time in my life).
Ronald.
I've popped into Subic and it's never been known for lookers. It used to be less expensive but not anymore as they have eliminated BFs. Now the bars allow their BGs to name their prices which always start at 3 to 5 K. I was there early 17 and the pickings were slim and no BFs. I was also there 5 years ago when there had low BFs 1,200 to 1,500. Now they have Fields pricing and much less talent.
Last year I went back to PG and was surprised at the numbers and quality of the BGs. There's about 5 bars w / around 30 + BGs each available. I'll be heading back there this summer. BFs are 3 K and the women are more friendly than in AC. PG is harder to get to than Subic but at least there's something there that's nice.
A few shots of PG.Maybe you mean Sabang?
Its now overrun by Koreans and the hotel prices rocketing.
The bikini bars are pricey and boring and shit if you enter with your own girl.
No decent dancing in most bars and ugly.
The local food is shit, hard to find and expensive my pinay told me.
We went the January 2018 and never never never again.
But we go over 2 weeks for the third time to barrio Barretto!
The only thing I don't like is the spirit of the girls in barrio.
Not when I was alone and not when I was there with my own girl.
In Cebu and smaller bars in Angeles they have much better attitudes.
Most of the times even the jeepneys don't stop even if half empty.
If you talk in other regions about Subic they say zambales is an area with (rude) peasants.
I agree with that.
Manila I don't like at all.
Just fast money everywhere also P. Burgos.
Ronald.
I am very much a city boy. Live in a big city and enjoy it more than smaller venues. When I monger, I seek stimulation, and not relaxation. Lights, music, noise, pussy, alcohol- that is what I need. I don't seek romance or slower pace for which Subic may be ok. The only reason I don't go to Manila is because the city is not particularly interesting, and the barfines are way too expensive. I only go to AC because of the sheer number of pussy. Otherwise, it holds nothing of interest for me. Bangkok is my favourite big city in the whole wide world, but I don't mind Pattaya, because again of all the girls there and the place has an overall enjoyable atmosphere, and many more entertainment options than AC or Subic.Pattaya is nice if you are younger, in the disco age.
I will never never never never have a 23 year old slim girl as fiancee in Pattaya, even not as prostitute below 4000 B.
The reason is simple.
Thai girls have nothing with white people, nothing with any foreigner. But only the money (or the marriage with about same age).
Cause Thai man work and look good.
Pinoy only let the pinay think and work.
If you are older its normal a Thai is "married" with 3 foreigners and goes to their Thai boyfriend the moment you leave.
In The Phil you still can find a poor girl who is loyal to one older man.
But don't put the cat on the meat we say in Holland.
Thailand is better for matches (they bow for money- you don't get a fight with her boyfriend. In the Phil you will get fights).
In the Phil you get something back if you come in with a good hearth.
That's why I like the Phil.
But at the end the drunk who throws with money in the Phil can be more dangerous than in Thailand.
Don't count on guards of the bars if you spent little.
I have never been drugged in the Phil, In Bangkok sukhumvit 3 times. And I com 20 times more in the Phil.
Pattaya is safer to get drunk haha. Bangkok worse. Compared to the Phil.
Ronald.
GringoItaliano
10-03-18, 00:26
Does anyone know if the Arizona Resort in Subic Bay is girl-friendly? Have you stayed there and brought back girls without any problems?
Erasmus B Dragin
10-03-18, 01:14
Does anyone know if the Arizona Resort in Subic Bay is girl-friendly? Have you stayed there and brought back girls without any problems?I'm assuming you're serious. Yes, Arizona & every other hotel in Barreto, is girl friendly. Arizona is essentially a bt brothel. Girl-friendliness is part of the business model of every hotel in that area. Indeed, it's rare to find a hotel anywhere in PI that doesn't allow female visitors.
Does anyone know if the Arizona Resort in Subic Bay is girl-friendly? Have you stayed there and brought back girls without any problems?Its very girl friendly I stay before 2 times and don't have any problems even bring 2 girls at same time.
BrainDrain
10-03-18, 21:32
Does anyone know if the Arizona Resort in Subic Bay is girl-friendly? Have you stayed there and brought back girls without any problems?The Sports Bar at Arizona Resort has friendly-girls, very friendly.
Are they up yet? The one off Treasure Island was particularly fun. Guys, great way to watch the sunset with San Migs, 70's rock music and surrounded by two or three little brown honeys playing with you.
Erasmus B Dragin
10-08-18, 23:47
Not yet. 2 of them got turtled last year, one for going out too early & the other for staying out too late, so I'd expect caution this year. I wouldn't expect them to be out before end of the month or later.
Are they up yet? The one off Treasure Island was particularly fun. Guys, great way to watch the sunset with San Migs, 70's rock music and surrounded by two or three little brown honeys playing with you.
I was in BB April / May and spent a lot of time but less money in Cheap Charlies. A draught SML for me and a LD was just $2. 70. Two days after I left I heard it was closed down allegedly due to the staircase suddenly being deemed as too narrow and / or them being behind with paperwork. I'd already been to Aloha 40 seconds along the road and not liked it as much. Same set-up of roof terrace but bigger and there was something about the squeeze in ChCh that made it more friendly.
Anyone know what Aloha's prices are and if they still sell draught? And how many of the staff from Charlies moved there?The Aloha bar is closed and the cheap Charlie's moved there with the hole stuff.
Erasmus B Dragin
10-11-18, 01:52
Arizona's inew floating bar is scheduled to be out on Nov 5. Last year the old one went out early and they paid the price. It was turtled on Fri, Oct 13. RIP. The new one went into service for awhile earlier this year before the end of the season.
Blue Rock & Kokomo don't have a fixed date yet. I wouldn't expect to see either before the first week of Nov & then only if the extended forecast looks clear.
Are they up yet? The one off Treasure Island was particularly fun. Guys, great way to watch the sunset with San Migs, 70's rock music and surrounded by two or three little brown honeys playing with you.
Arizona's inew floating bar is scheduled to be out on Nov 5. Last year the old one went out early and they paid the price. It was turtled on Fri, Oct 13. RIP. The new one went into service for awhile earlier this year before the end of the season.
Blue Rock & Kokomo don't have a fixed date yet. I wouldn't expect to see either before the first week of Nov & then only if the extended forecast looks clear.Thanks Ebd. Good to know. Will be there December.
The Aloha bar is closed and the cheap Charlie's moved there with the hole stuff.I would say its more like 50% of the staff that moved there. Some to the new baretto Sports bar and the rest all over the other bars.
Prices went up a Little. I think its was 50 Pesos for a beer.
DzikaBomba
11-12-18, 09:54
I will be in subic from Wednesday to Sunday and I'm curious how the Situation about the FL is there.
Are there Girls available through DIA and / or Wechat?
Is there any place where I can pick up freelancers or even street hookers?
Please share your knowledge to this topic.
I will be in subic from Wednesday to Sunday and I'm curious how the Situation about the FL is there.
Are there Girls available through DIA and / or Wechat?
Is there any place where I can pick up freelancers or even street hookers?
Please share your knowledge to this topic.Plenty on PinaLove and FilipinoCupid. Don't forget to include both Olongapo and Subic in your searches.
Just hit the main drag. There are plenty of bars with girls walking around in between. You can also go to the beach and hit the floating bars.
I will be in subic from Wednesday to Sunday and I'm curious how the Situation about the FL is there.
Are there Girls available through DIA and / or Wechat?
Is there any place where I can pick up freelancers or even street hookers?
Please share your knowledge to this topic.
DzikaBomba
11-14-18, 15:42
I made an quick decision: I go back to AC.
I don't like it here.
After I arrived with the victory liner I checked the Situation.
On WeChat I found only two LB. On girl from DIA who first was writing with me later did not respond any more.
I don't like Bars but I checked them. Some where quoting 3 k others less but I did not like the Talent. They should pay me to fuck them.
I even checked pier one (bar / Restaurant). On an other Forum I read that outside of that are FL available, but nothing.
The floating Bars seemed closed or I was too late (On the streets nothing.
And during that AC Girls are writing to me non stop.
So I made a quick decision and bought an ticket for the Southern cross shuttle the next day (500 p).
Bye bye Subic.
Can anyone confirm the floating bar off Treasure Island is open? What are the girls like? Any slim and stacked cuties? Thanks for any replies.
Soapy Smith
11-15-18, 05:48
Can anyone confirm the floating bar off Treasure Island is open? What are the girls like? Any slim and stacked cuties? Thanks for any replies.Stacked cuties now denied admission. They raise the center of gravity and threaten capsizing the whole bar.
Stacked cuties now denied admission. They raise the center of gravity and threaten capsizing the whole bar.Reply of the year👍.
I almost pissed myself laughing until I remembered how many have actually turned turtle over the years.
I'm an ex Navy guy who hadn't been to Subic bay since the 80's. After spending four days in AC welcomed the break to head to Subic bay for a much needed break.
Caught the Victory lines bus at the Dao terminal in AC and enjoyed the smooth ride to my old stomping grounds. Damn, shit river and the bridge I staggered across in the 80's was still there. Caught the blue jeepney for something like 13 pesos to my hotel in barrio Bareta. We had hotel reservations but a couple dudes we met on the bus didn't so we walked around with them for our breakin introduction. I'll be damned if the whole town didn't come out to give us a welcome, never has that happened before. Walked by Dynamite dicks bar and DYNAMITE himself came out and dragged us in, gave us hats and brought us drinks. Damn this is too good to be true, is it a setup? Nope, the drinks kept going and it wasn't even 6 pm before we slipped out to shower and prepare for the night.
We hit 50/50, lollipop, Mancave, Rosie's, Vodoo and every bar had at least 20 girls in there. I was surprised to find out there are no barfines. I had talked to a little cutie earlier with school teacher glasses on while riding the jeepney so she was on my mind as we traded texted and me trying to convince her I was an innocent tourist that didn't know what a girlie bar was. My boys had already shifted gears and were buying single ladies drinks for 150 pesos while closing the deal. Shit, I thought we were going to explore the terrain before locking in. Now I got to make my move. Settled on another girl who wasn't the prettiest but her homely looks turned me on for some reason. Her name was M and I went in after she solicited me from the front and she had all smiles, like she was happy to have a client. I asked if she wanted to go home with me to see her reaction and she looked at her watch. Oh oh, Houston we have a problem. She did a shy laugh and I asked why she looked at her watch? And she said she had three kids to get home to so we had to be quick. Damn I wasted 150 pesos on her drink I thought. Fuck that, and I left and went across the street.
Saw another girl I like and paid for a single drink and she was sneakily rubbing my dick under the table as I got excited thinking I found a freak for the night but not two minutes later she said she was on her period. WTF is going here, I thought. OK, change of strategy.
I decided to scour the streets for a freelancer because it was now 2 am. Nada, nothing on the street. I then paid a trike guy 70 pesos to take me to the nude club up the street called Solomia or something like that.
All Filipino guys inside, no cover, drinks 2 San Miguel beers for 187 pesos, smoking inside. Nice pointy nipples girls dancing but the price I got was 5 k.
Fuck, I struck out my first night in because I wasn't paying a girl from the bar 2500 pesos at 3 am and I sure wasn't paying 5 k. As I'm nearing my hotel I see an older lady and she said 1500 pesos but I passed and told her goodnight. I took two steps saw my hotel and looked back at her. Fuck, I'm not trying to quit yet so she had to do. Actually she put on a good show. Very relaxed, took a shower, chatted a few minutes then stood up and dropped the towel, time for business.
The next two days were spent with my student with the school teacher glasses during the day and bar hopping with my boys at night. Not a bad mix.
I sent my boys back to AC after the weekend and decided to stay in SB. This place is nice so I'm going to hide out here for a few days then back to AC to reconnect with the Wolfpack. BTW the floating bars are supposed to open tomorrow or Thursday.
I'm an ex Navy guy who hadn't been to Subic bay since the 80's. After spending four days in AC welcomed the break to head to Subic bay for a much needed break.
I decided to scour the streets for a freelancer because it was now 2 am. Nada, nothing on the street. I then paid a trike guy 70 pesos to take me to the nude club up the street called Solomia or something like that.
All Filipino guys inside, no cover, drinks 2 San Miguel beers for 187 pesos, smoking inside. Nice pointy nipples girls dancing but the price I got was 5 k.
Was in there a couple of nights ago with some locals. There are rooms in the back and was quoted P2. 5 k "all-in".
Was in there a couple of nights ago with some locals. There are rooms in the back and was quoted P2. 5 k "all-in".Got it, that might be the local deal, which seems high for a local. Being I was a single gringo maybe they jacked up the price. Tonight I will counter with 2. 5 and see what happens.
Maybe because it was a Wednesday night, but last night was my best night with the gogo bars, girls were all over me. Settled on a MILF from 50/50. She started at 3 k but I passed and came back an hour later and we agreed on 2.3. She is still here drinking san miguel in my room at 7 am.
Ate dinner at Ricos buffet and thought the curry chicken was the best food. Suddenly girls dressed in all black walked in to eat. I kept trying to make contact but they kept playing on their phones so I gave up. I was surprised because I thought one of them would bite. To no avail. Finish eating and walk in Man cave and these same girls were all over me. I reminded them that they were just at Ricos eating in front of me and wouldn't even return my smile, they just looked at each other like they didn't give a damn and kept on with their pitch. I've even camped out at a spot across from my hotel where several girls live and tried to talk to them but they act like they aren't hookers. What's with this shit, is there some rule here in Subic that says gurls can only trick in gogo bars?
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Ate dinner at Ricos buffet and thought the curry chicken was the best food. Suddenly girls dressed in all black walked in to eat. I kept trying to make contact but they kept playing on their phones so I gave up.
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Try WeChat in that situation, if they are pro's or even part timers they may be looking there on their phones.
Awoke yesterday and left my hotel in Bario baretta and caught the blue jeepney to victory bus station for 13 pesos. Walked around that area for a few minutes, got some fresh coconut water for 50 pesos then sat and people watched. Saw a Chow king and Joliebe, street food stands, and knockoff imitation clothes. Walked around the corner and paid ten pesos to ride the yellow jeepney (Sounds corny, but I got to sit in the front seat) to SM mall. Hung out at SM mall, got a glass screen protector for 600 pesos for my note 8 and browsed. Left SM and crossed the bridge and to my right saw Harbor point. Decided to call a girl I met on DIA that lives in Olongopo and asked her to meet me there for lunch.
I waited in the Greenwich pizza parlor in the front and surprisingly she showed up 15 minutes later in flip flops (manicured toes), shorts showing off her chubby ass and tank top shirt.
We had the ultimate piazza, six slices for 269 and better than I expected. After pizza we walked for the next hour passing the pier with a huge luxury liner there. Passed Pier one and a few restaurants. I explained to her I only left the house with about 1100 pesos but if she went back to the hotel I could get some more pesos and we could hangout for the rest of the day at Baloy beach, she agreed.
Walked Biloy beach town, treasure island I think is the name for a few hours then back to my hotel to relax and watch TV. She was shy in bed and tight, took five minutes to get in her and for her to relax. The first few minutes she was frowning her face like I was hurting her then she loosened up and was fucking me back. The girl was really into it and a few more minutes I just felt heat below and looked at her. She was coming on the sly so I locked in. I came so good I just laid on her for ten minutes. She said she doesn't have a lot of sex and apologized LOL. Got to love these girls, they give you a good nut and get one for themselves and apologize.
I offered her 300 pesos for her jeepney ride home and to buy some ice cream and she refused. I really wanted to give her a lot more but didn't want to set a standard because I was going to see her again. We are going to Pier one and Nocturnal disco probably Thursday night for a date. She is looking for a husband, something serious but it seems they all say that. Good day in all and headed back to Manila after an AC stop. Damn I'm finally starting to get in a groove in Subic.
Been here in Barretto / Baloy beach now for about 3 weeks. The bars here all the same before but unfortunately the prices just keep going up. Where as 2-3 years back you could find a good looking girl stay long time with you for 1500 p + small tip now they mostly quote 2500 p for short time and 3000 p++ for long time (if you are lucky and find someone who is willing to stay long time). Most of the best looking girls hang out at bars just for drinks and are either owners / managers girlfriends or have a foreign boyfriend abroad and they want to stay loyal to them. Here's some prices so far I've been quoted:
The Office: Negotiable. Lowest offer I got was 2500 p short time.
Jannas Wild Flower: Negotiable. Lowest offer I got was 2500 p short time /3000 p long time (until 6 am).
Winking pussycat: Fixed 2500 p.
Crazy Horse: Fixed 2500 p.
Dryden bars (Lollipop, Wetspot, Rhum Jungle, Rapscalion, Man cave): Negotiable. Lowest offer I got was 2500 p short time / 3000 p long time.
If you are coming here just for the weekend I would strongly advice to bring your own cutie with you from Angeles city. Better talent there with matching prices.
Been here in Barretto / Baloy beach now for about 3 weeks. The bars here all the same before but unfortunately the prices just keep going up. Where as 2-3 years back you could find a good looking girl stay long time with you for 1500 p + small tip now they mostly quote 2500 p for short time and 3000 p++ for long time (if you are lucky and find someone who is willing to stay long time). Most of the best looking girls hang out at bars just for drinks and are either owners / managers girlfriends or have a foreign boyfriend abroad and they want to stay loyal to them. Here's some prices so far I've been quoted:
The Office: Negotiable. Lowest offer I got was 2500 p short time.
Jannas Wild Flower: Negotiable. Lowest offer I got was 2500 p short time /3000 p long time (until 6 am).
Winking pussycat: Fixed 2500 p.
Crazy Horse: Fixed 2500 p.
Dryden bars (Lollipop, Wetspot, Rhum Jungle, Rapscalion, Man cave): Negotiable. Lowest offer I got was 2500 p short time / 3000 p long time.
If you are coming here just for the weekend I would strongly advice to bring your own cutie with you from Angeles city. Better talent there with matching prices.I had the same experiences early last year.
Dryden bars, some ladies offer you to book a room upstairs, inside the bar komplex is a small hotel. They don't want to go to your hotel. Angeles has better options.
Mongerer69
03-21-19, 23:58
Heading to Arizona next week. Is it true Floating Bars have been outlawed?
Say it ain't so.
Heading to Arizona next week. Is it true Floating Bars have been outlawed?
Say it ain't so.I was there the last week in February and saw at least one floating bar operating. It was in the water out from Wild Orchid hotel. There were not a lot of people there due to it being the low season or so I was told. I had my travel girl with me so did not get out and about. There was no talk about banning the bars that I heard.
Mountain Guy
04-06-19, 14:00
I was there the last week in February and saw at least one floating bar operating. It was in the water out from Wild Orchid hotel. There were not a lot of people there due to it being the low season or so I was told. I had my travel girl with me so did not get out and about. There was no talk about banning the bars that I heard.I just returned and there was a floating bar near Blue Rock Beach Resort.
Keyser Soza
04-23-19, 13:04
So after using the ISG service for free (purely due to laziness) I finally decided to contribute something back.
I have been both in Subic and Angeles in early April.
Subic was extremely empty and the only places with customers were Rum Jungle, Wet Spot and Cheap Charlie (I visited every single bar at least 4 times). Cheap Charlie was a big surprise to me and must say it is very well managed to the point it was difficult to find a seat at any time (I still remember the old one which was much much smaller).
Beside very good scuba dives I overall I was not impressed and do not plan to go back for the hobby. The girls were not enjoying themselves and not putting much effort (I think due to no customers around). I still I managed to pull one girl every night but I suspect if not drunk some nights I would have rather gone home alone. I saw a couple of 7-8 (which I barfined) but that was pretty much it. I also met most of my previous barfines from 2 years back which tells you how low the rotation really is (both the Mamasans and the girls remembered me which adds to the previous statement). Prices were 2500-3000 (I did not bother negotiating but I am sure I could have got a 2000 given there were no customers around).
On the positive side I saw almost no Korean / Japanese around (may be due to the month).
Accommodation-wise I stayed at the 1010 Suites (BlueRock) and must say the units are very very nice (but overpriced for the area).
P.S. As I saw question asked all floating bars were open (but the only full one was Arizona).
After Subic I visited Angeles for 3 days. Here the music was totally different (all of the clubs had customers and sadly also a lot of Koreans / Japanese) and many of the girls were having fun. They all put me in a good party mood and I enjoyed bar hopping as much as the rest of the night.
I found Salambo, QT Bar and Lollipop more to my liking (in Lollipop I saw a stunning 10 which I spend 20 minutes with but did not barfine) but in all the bars I found somebody funny to have a chat with. Many bars had some 7-8 and I really enjoyed much more than Subic.
Again I barfined every night (prices 3000-3500ST / LT. Yes somebody still does LT they just don't say it to Mamasan) and a freelancer from High Society the last day.
I stayed in Central Tower which I find extremely clean, convenient and fairly prices (you can get 2800 if you pay cash). The only problem is it is often overbooked.
I am now looking forward to see Manila and Cebu.
After having spend a week at a great beach I went to Subic for some diving. I had visited previously and knew the place. During my stay it seemed rather slow in the bars and girls as well as waitresses did remember me.
On day 1 I was barhopping quite a bit. Barretto had changed a bit, some bars closed and Cheap Charlie's moved to a new location. In the end I settled on a sexy girl in Voodoo Ms A. She was really skilled and slim. I did enjoy my time with her but probably will not repeat.
On day 2 I was barhopping a lot again and looking for the best talent available. However the choices are not that great. Most good looking girls are only interested in drinks or short-time. In the end I settled on a sweet and beautiful lady from Lollipop Ms Cr-A. I did enjoy my time with her a lot and her oral skills were exceptional. Sadly in the morning her period started and thus made a repeat unlikely.
Having found a cutie at the Rapscallion the precious days this time I took the chance to meet her rather early. Last night I missed my chance and I did not want this to happen again. Ms H was a 20 years old spinner and very sweet. As it turns out maybe a little bit to sweet and a bit shy but I did enjoy my session with her, however as previously mentioned the really good looking ones don't stay long time. Overall it was nice, but I will not repeat.
On day 4 most of the Drayden bars closed, yes Subic bars have a day off. I was once again back to barhopping and looking for talent. Mostly due to some rain I spend quite a bit of time at Hotzone and must say during my stay they had the best girls. Although I guess this changes and taste does vary too.
My choice of the night was Ms Lo from Hotzone and she did provide a good performance but nothing I would repeat. However she did stay long time.
On my last day I met a girl who I knew from a previous visit and who just returned from the province. This time I didn't hit the bars and we just spend a lot of time at the hotel. Not only that she is beautiful, but also very horny and sweet. Ms S works in Voodoo and knows how to show someone a good time. However it seems she only stays in Subic when she needs some money. Would I repeat with her definitely, but tomorrow I am heading to Angeles.
Overall I would say Subic is nice for diving, the bars are a little expensive. Most of the time I was quoted 2500 and sometimes 3000. The bars were rather quiet and there were no Korean visitors. If you are not interested in diving there are a lot nice places.
On my way to Angeles now via van by Angeles bakery, which is only 250 in case someone didn't know.
Fizzman1970
06-10-19, 01:58
I'm Looking for some Hotel help. I not really a party guy and not a big drinker. I looking to stay somewhere a little more relaxed, but were the girls will be happy going to for long time. I was looking at Blue Rock, Wild Orchid, Mangos, and Mangrove. Of courses it need to be guest friendly. I've got FC, Wechat ready to go, but may still need to use the bars to find what I'm looking for. This will be my first trip and want to find the right place where everyone will be happy.
I'm Looking for some Hotel help. I not really a party guy and not a big drinker. I looking to stay somewhere a little more relaxed, but were the girls will be happy going to for long time. I was looking at Blue Rock, Wild Orchid, Mangos, and Mangrove. Of courses it need to be guest friendly. I've got FC, Wechat ready to go, but may still need to use the bars to find what I'm looking for. This will be my first trip and want to find the right place where everyone will be happy.For me the choice would be Mangrove, but from your other hotels I only stayed at Mangos and though it was okay Mangrove is just a lot more relaxed and the rooms are nicer. However if it is your first trip I would initially just stay a few nights and see if Subic is to your liking. I would assume all of the hotels are girl friendly and I never had any issues.
Transporter
06-10-19, 10:30
I'm Looking for some Hotel help. I not really a party guy and not a big drinker. I looking to stay somewhere a little more relaxed, but were the girls will be happy going to for long time. I was looking at Blue Rock, Wild Orchid, Mangos, and Mangrove. Of courses it need to be guest friendly. I've got FC, Wechat ready to go, but may still need to use the bars to find what I'm looking for. This will be my first trip and want to find the right place where everyone will be happy.Blue Rock; good food, I enjoy eating in the open resto, but rooms are so so.
Wild Orchid; nicer rooms, great pool.
Mango; have not stayed there.
Mangrove; very nice, and would be my choice out of the ones you mentioned.
Keep in mind that blue rock, wild orchid and mangrove is in baloy beach, so you would have to use a trike to go out to the mains strip and back.
Keyser Soza
06-10-19, 12:09
Blue Rock also has upper level apartments (just in front of the resort) called 1010 VIP which are very nice (of course they come at a higher price).
Arizona beach resort I'll also an option (they have a bar inside if you are looking for convenience) but again a trike is advised to the main strip.
Blue Rock; good food, I enjoy eating in the open resto, but rooms are so so.
Wild Orchid; nicer rooms, great pool.
Mango; have not stayed there.
Mangrove; very nice, and would be my choice out of the ones you mentioned.
Keep in mind that blue rock, wild orchid and mangrove is in baloy beach, so you would have to use a trike to go out to the mains strip and back.
I'm Looking for some Hotel help. I not really a party guy and not a big drinker. I looking to stay somewhere a little more relaxed, but were the girls will be happy going to for long time. I was looking at Blue Rock, Wild Orchid, Mangos, and Mangrove. Of courses it need to be guest friendly. I've got FC, Wechat ready to go, but may still need to use the bars to find what I'm looking for. This will be my first trip and want to find the right place where everyone will be happy.What's your budget?
The Pub (yes that's its name LOL) has basic but large and clean rooms. Dirt cheap considering its walking distance to all the Barretto bars, has good food options across the road (Mangos) and next door (A Korean guy that serves good Western and Asian meals), nearby laundry and general services. No pool to play in. Obviously its GF.
It has a good reputation but last time I was at Mangos, I moved out due to the room always needing something fixed and lots of noise. The God awful color scheme didn't help the hang over either. 🙃.
Online don't forget to include both Subic and Olongapo in your location searches for girls.
Enjoy. G.
Transporter
06-10-19, 18:59
Blue Rock also has upper level apartments (just in front of the resort) called 1010 VIP which are very nice (of course they come at a higher price).
Arizona beach resort I'll also an option (they have a bar inside if you are looking for convenience) but again a trike is advised to the main strip.Arizona is cheap, and I hang out there a lot, as I like the food, I like the bar, the people, the atmosphere, but the rooms I have to admit I cannot stay in those rooms. The rooms is a little dodgy, and the hotwater is a bit in consistent.
I don't think the new Central Park resort is open yet.
ICove beach hotel is what you want, great pool, modern rooms, but it sells out pretty quickly. The next best within walking distance to the bars is mangrove resort. That too also sells out quickly. Wild Orchid's sea view rooms on the beach are pretty great too.
Also, there's 1010 vip by blue rock. Very pleasant and modern suites, but the blue rock pool isn't that good.
Fizzman1970
06-11-19, 01:29
I can't believe all the help in one day! All of you have given me great options and advice. Thank you for being so nice to a newbie. Like I said relaxation is one of the biggest part of this trip, so a beach and pool would be nice to hang out at. Plus who wouldn't want to have beautiful girls around. Maybe get a chance to see some bikini's Have any of the girl told you their hotel preference?
Thanks again Fizz.
Have any of the girl told you their hotel preference?
Thanks again Fizz.All hotels in the general Barrretto area are girl friendly so just stay where you feel comfortable.
Any hotel that you pick will be much better than what the girls have at home. Don't rely on trying to impress them as you will just end up where all her friends work so that she can parade her new benefactor around in front of them. It also means that if you have a night off and grab a fill in she will immediately know and be questioning you when you meet again. If this matters to you, just get somewhere that fills your needs, not hers.
Enjoy. G.
I travel already 3 years with my pretty finance around.
I made with my smartphone a nice picture of the bar owner and my girl.
When I talked with somebody else the bar owner (Graham) asked my girlfriend to work for his bar and he gave his facebook name to her and to let me alone.
My lesson. Don't trust this bar owner if you have a nice girl yourself.
The same happened again in Angeles (manager Body shop).
Yes afterwards they give cheap excuses (I wanted the picture) but honest people talk to the white and not around your back.
His attitude fits perfect with this guide haha.
I travel already 3 years with my pretty finance around.
I made with my smartphone a nice picture of the bar owner and my girl.
When I talked with somebody else the bar owner (Graham) asked my girlfriend to work for his bar and he gave his facebook name to her and to let me alone.
My lesson. Don't trust this bar owner if you have a nice girl yourself.
The same happened again in Angeles (manager Body shop).
Yes afterwards they give cheap excuses (I wanted the picture) but honest people talk to the white and not around your back.
His attitude fits perfect with this guide haha.I call bullshit on this one. Graham is a stand up guy. If you are so proud of your Filipina maybe you shouldn't take her into bars crawling with other girls. And even if he did ask her to work there what's the problem? Does she not possess the capability to say no? Cheap Charlies is a great place to hang out and it should not be tainted by a post like this. If you don't like it, don't go there. And just for the record I live in Barretto.
I call bullshit on this one. Graham is a stand up guy. If you are so proud of your Filipina maybe you shouldn't take her into bars crawling with other girls. And even if he did ask her to work there what's the problem? Does she not possess the capability to say no? Cheap Charlies is a great place to hang out and it should not be tainted by a post like this. If you don't like it, don't go there. And just for the record I live in Barretto.It's either BS or the OP needs to take a serious look at his girl friend.
No decent Pina would be caught dead in a girly bar let alone an AC gogo. I can guarantee if she was in one then she would be out the door the moment she was insulted with the suggestion that she might like to be a hooker.
Bar Managers, Mamasans and the like develop a 6th sense on who has been in or could be brought into the business. If she has been asked twice in different venues then alarm bells should be ringing. Sorry but if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's not a chicken.
Here's an easy test. Take her to a mixed gathering with wives and girls friends from all walks of life. If she's approached by and can only hold a conversation with current and past WGs then case closed. If the good girls are happy to talk to and be seen socializing with her then you have no problems.
All the best. G.
It's either BS or the OP needs to take a serious look at his girl friend.
No decent Pina would be caught dead in a girly bar let alone an AC gogo. I can guarantee if she was in one then she would be out the door the moment she was insulted with the suggestion that she might like to be a hooker.
Bar Managers, Mamasans and the like develop a 6th sense on who has been in or could be brought into the business. If she has been asked twice in different venues then alarm bells should be ringing. Sorry but if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's not a chicken.
Here's an easy test. Take her to a mixed gathering with wives and girls friends from all walks of life. If she's approached by and can only hold a conversation with current and past WGs then case closed. If the good girls are happy to talk to and be seen socializing with her then you have no problems.
All the best. G.I agree but his pretty ex bargirl is different than the rest I am sure. Another day on the internet LOL. Cheap Charlies is still the best day drinking bar in Barretto and one of the few on that side of the National Highway that doesn't overcharge for everything.
I agree but his pretty ex bargirl is different than the rest I am sure.....Aren't they all different from all the rest?
Aren't they all different from all the rest?Absolutely, she only did it for 1 day then she met her Captain Save a Ho. He was lucky because he rescued her before she slept with any other guy. Now their love is pure.
Chocha Monger
06-19-19, 04:28
It's either BS or the OP needs to take a serious look at his girl friend.
No decent Pina would be caught dead in a girly bar let alone an AC gogo. I can guarantee if she was in one then she would be out the door the moment she was insulted with the suggestion that she might like to be a hooker.
Bar Managers, Mamasans and the like develop a 6th sense on who has been in or could be brought into the business. If she has been asked twice in different venues then alarm bells should be ringing. Sorry but if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's not a chicken.
Here's an easy test. Take her to a mixed gathering with wives and girls friends from all walks of life. If she's approached by and can only hold a conversation with current and past WGs then case closed. If the good girls are happy to talk to and be seen socializing with her then you have no problems.
All the best. G.Actually, no decent Filipina would be caught dead in public with a foreign monger, as her compatriots will assume she is fucking him for financial gain and potential migration benefits. More often than not, their assumptions are correct.
GoodEnough
06-21-19, 04:18
Actually, no decent Filipina would be caught dead in public with a foreign monger, as her compatriots will assume she is fucking him for financial gain and potential migration benefits. More often than not, their assumptions are correct.Another sweeping generalization with little basis in fact. Most of my long-term expat friends here are married to "decent," educated, thoroughly middle class Filipinas and most have been married happily for years. Perhaps if you tried a bit harder to raise your sights slightly above the bar girls, massage parlors and online "dating" services, and actually tried to learn just a little bit about Philippine society you would become somewhat better informed. I understand that your major ambition here seems to be to derogate everything associated with the country, but there really are lots of us who like the place.
GE.
Another sweeping generalization with little basis in fact. Most of my long-term expat friends here are married to "decent," educated, thoroughly middle class Filipinas and most have been married happily for years. Perhaps if you tried a bit harder to raise your sights slightly above the bar girls, massage parlors and online "dating" services, and actually tried to learn just a little bit about Philippine society you would become somewhat better informed. I understand that your major ambition here seems to be to derogate everything associated with the country, but there really are lots of us who like the place.
GE.+1. While there certainly are the bargirls_done_good of my original post, there are also girls for whom partnering a foreigner is seen by her friends and family as a significant step down from her normal social circle. In essence it's the foreigner who must prove that himself, not the girl.
While we all enjoy reading and writing about mongering and bar girls, to assume that that covers the whole country or region is crazy. Just because someone isn't the target market of this forum doesn't mean that they don't exist.
Enjoy. G.
Engine Driver
06-23-19, 04:39
Actually, no decent Filipina would be caught dead in public with a foreign monger, as her compatriots will assume she is fucking him for financial gain and potential migration benefits. More often than not, their assumptions are correct.This is an astute observation by Choca B. Monger. Such knowledge was not just obtained by watching Pinay Trike Patrol back in Detroit, but by doing the hard miles around the Visayas.
Educated, middle class Filipinas from good families would not be seen dead with a foreign monger. The same goes for any other Asian nationality (there are some exceptions). The dream of middle and upper middles class Pinays is to marry an upwardly mobile doctor, lawyer or business executive from their own country to gain social status. Rich Filipinos do not need to migrate to California as they can have everything they want in their home country. They know that in California, life is not so sweet as they themselves have to cook, clean, wipe their babies' asses and run errands. The chances of having an army of maids are limited and they have to re-establish their social networks.
It's only the poor and less well educated Filipinas who want to marry a foreign monger for financial security and migration benefits. Escaping their tin shed in some rural town to go to the USA is their dream. They love showing off their loot on IG to their envious peasant friends back home. They might only have 98 followers, but act as if they are a huge influencer in IG land. Some of it is cringeworthy.
Before Mr. E comes back with the fact he is banging a Thai university professor for free, let me tell you that she has done her homework. She does not stand to lose too much in being seen with an American monger, but everything to gain by getting a residency permit in a foreign country.
Another sweeping generalization with little basis in fact. Most of my long-term expat friends here are married to "decent," educated, thoroughly middle class Filipinas and most have been married happily for years. Perhaps if you tried a bit harder to raise your sights slightly above the bar girls, massage parlors and online "dating" services, and actually tried to learn just a little bit about Philippine society you would become somewhat better informed. I understand that your major ambition here seems to be to derogate everything associated with the country, but there really are lots of us who like the place.
GE.Thank you, GE.
Chocha Monger
06-24-19, 01:45
This is an astute observation by Choca B. Monger. Such knowledge was not just obtained by watching Pinay Trike Patrol back in Detroit, but by doing the hard miles around the Visayas.
Educated, middle class Filipinas from good families would not be seen dead with a foreign monger. The same goes for any other Asian nationality (there are some exceptions). The dream of middle and upper middles class Pinays is to marry an upwardly mobile doctor, lawyer or business executive from their own country to gain social status. Rich Filipinos do not need to migrate to California as they can have everything they want in their home country. They know that in California, life is not so sweet as they themselves have to cook, clean, wipe their babies' asses and run errands. The chances of having an army of maids are limited and they have to re-establish their social networks.
It's only the poor and less well educated Filipinas who want to marry a foreign monger for financial security and migration benefits. Escaping their tin shed in some rural town to go to the USA is their dream. They love showing off their loot on IG to their envious peasant friends back home. They might only have 98 followers, but act as if they are a huge influencer in IG land. Some of it is cringeworthy.
Before Mr. E comes back with the fact he is banging a Thai university professor for free, let me tell you that she has done her homework. She does not stand to lose too much in being seen with an American monger, but everything to gain by getting a residency permit in a foreign country.The last thing a wealthy Filipino family with a good reputation wants to see is their daughter parading an elderly sex tourist around town. None of them will be happy to become the subject of gossip because an old sex monger is rooting their daughter in all her holes in hotels. They do not need the money, and certainly do not want the disgrace that sort of activity brings to the family.
Another sweeping generalization with little basis in fact. Most of my long-term expat friends here are married to "decent," educated, thoroughly middle class Filipinas and most have been married happily for years. Perhaps if you tried a bit harder to raise your sights slightly above the bar girls, massage parlors and online "dating" services, and actually tried to learn just a little bit about Philippine society you would become somewhat better informed. I understand that your major ambition here seems to be to derogate everything associated with the country, but there really are lots of us who like the place.
GE.Yep and also there are plenty of older ex pats that are married to older Filipinas that have been with them for years. The average monger travels to another country with a chip on his shoulder and places himself above everyone there because he has a little money in his pocket. Money will impress the bar girls for a couple of hours. A superior attitude in a foreign country will get you disliked, resented, your ass beat or possible even killed. Most of these people have never spent more than a week or 2 out of their own element. Not too many professionals of outside culture on a mongering forum. I sold everything I had at reduced prices and moved here with 2 suitcases. The only thing I would have done differently is brought a couple more pairs of shoes.
Yep and also there are plenty of older ex pats that are married to older Filipinas that have been with them for years. The average monger travels to another country with a chip on his shoulder and places himself above everyone there because he has a little money in his pocket. Money will impress the bar girls for a couple of hours. A superior attitude in a foreign country will get you disliked, resented, your ass beat or possible even killed. Most of these people have never spent more than a week or 2 out of their own element. Not too many professionals of outside culture on a mongering forum. I sold everything I had at reduced prices and moved here with 2 suitcases. The only thing I would have done differently is brought a couple more pairs of shoes.I came here with the two suitcases, bought extra shoes locally, gave just about everything away, either as part of the divorce settlement, to my GF from home who needed the stuff or to some of my kids.
The majority of the mongers here only see bar girls, they are missing out on how culturally diverse and interesting this country can really be. Yes there are lots of scams but the higher you go on the social economic ladder the fewer there are, eventually you get people who are more concerned that you are the scammer and these people would never think of scamming you.
The mongering sub culture is really pretty small here compared to the numbers of foreigners living normal lives and the number of bar girls, and semi pros is likewise small compared to the number of regular girls out there.
To paint the entire culture with the brush you find on Burgos or Walking Streets is simply wrong.
GoodEnough
06-24-19, 06:19
I came here with the two suitcases, bought extra shoes locally, gave just about everything away, either as part of the divorce settlement, to my GF from home who needed the stuff or to some of my kids.
The majority of the mongers here only see bar girls, they are missing out on how culturally diverse and interesting this country can really be. Yes there are lots of scams but the higher you go on the social economic ladder the fewer there are, eventually you get people who are more concerned that you are the scammer and these people would never think of scamming you.
The mongering sub culture is really pretty small here compared to the numbers of foreigners living normal lives and the number of bar girls, and semi pros is likewise small compared to the number of regular girls out there.
To paint the entire culture with the brush you find on Burgos or Walking Streets is simply wrong.Thanks to you and Beavis for presenting this alternative point of view. I have no problems with guys who come here to monger, and I've been there and done that throughout SE Asia, much of Africa and a bit in E. Europe and S. America. But even then I knew there was more to the countries than the bed-level view I was seeing and experiencing. I'm guessing that some of us have been lucky. Enough to have lived and worked in countries other than our own, and have thus perhaps developed, if not broader, then surely different perspectives.
Anyway, good to know you're out there.
GE.
I came here with the two suitcases, bought extra shoes locally, gave just about everything away, either as part of the divorce settlement, to my GF from home who needed the stuff or to some of my kids.
The majority of the mongers here only see bar girls, they are missing out on how culturally diverse and interesting this country can really be. Yes there are lots of scams but the higher you go on the social economic ladder the fewer there are, eventually you get people who are more concerned that you are the scammer and these people would never think of scamming you.
The mongering sub culture is really pretty small here compared to the numbers of foreigners living normal lives and the number of bar girls, and semi pros is likewise small compared to the number of regular girls out there.
To paint the entire culture with the brush you find on Burgos or Walking Streets is simply wrong.Understood, however size 13 USA is a hard shoe to find here LOL.
Yes there are lots of scams but the higher you go on the social economic ladder the fewer there are, eventually you get people who are more concerned that you are the scammer and these people would never think of scamming you.I always found it interesting that the truly wealthy in Asia were great people. We wanted nothing from them and they knew there was nothing we could do to improve their lot in life.
It was the wannabees that were a true PITA always trying to find an angle on getting something from you or ignoring you when they determined that they wouldn't be receiving some type of benefit.
Of course, those in positions of power recognized this and loved to play with it. We had one friend who amongst many other businesses had a film production house. She would warn us to watch this then take delight in torturing young and up coming models and actresses that would praise her with false pleasantries and compliments with the sole aim of asking if a particular leading role or presenter position had been filled. Mean while we would be talking about kids homework, up coming birthday parties and the like.
Cheers. G.
Understood, however size 13 USA is a hard shoe to find here LOL.No problem with 9 1/2.
Thanks to you and Beavis for presenting this alternative point of view. I have no problems with guys who come here to monger, and I've been there and done that.....When I am dealing with the pro's I expect pro treatment. Good skills from experience but only in it for the money, no after climax cuddling, no connection with the girl just service for cash. She will want to spend the minimum time servicing for the maximum reward. Even if she gives a real GFE I recognize that it is what I saw on another board in the US a long time ago as refereed to as IOL Illusion of Love. I recognize and understand that completely.
It is not what I usually want, I want a real connection with a girl that has real feelings for me, yes the "taxi money" plays a part in it but she actually wants to be with me not just to leave with the money.
The pro's are a small minority of the women out there. I have seen estimates of about 500,000 sex workers in the Philippines, that is I believe high for the numbers of real pro's out there. Even that is less than 1% of all women of fuckable age in the country. (and that number will include male hookers and lady-boys too I believe.).
I look for "real girls" they are looking for a relationship, open to having some mutual fun and they can be very enjoyable to be with even with clothes on.
Engine Driver
06-25-19, 12:55
The last thing a wealthy Filipino family with a good reputation wants to see is their daughter parading an elderly sex tourist around town. None of them will be happy to become the subject of gossip because an old sex monger is rooting their daughter in all her holes in hotels. They do not need the money, and certainly do not want the disgrace that sort of activity brings to the family.Every Filipino knows that a single foreign man in the 50-70 age bracket staying in three star hotels around the country is a sex tourist. They will be polite and ask you what your job is and how your vacation is going. You will not be fooling anyone when you say you are here in country for sight seeing, diving or for charity work. They will also not believe you when you say you are doing import-export business in the Philippines and came to meet some customers. The only importing you may be doing is baby batter from the USA and the only exporting you will be doing is sending over a 20 year old, illiterate, innumerate LBFM with crooked teeth back to your trailer park in Sioux City, Iowa. They all know you are here to fuck nubile young chicks who are about 30-50 years younger than you.
It is in this context that CM is saying that a middle class girl would not be seen dead with an elderly sex pest. Nothing good could possibly come of it.
Engine Driver
06-25-19, 13:04
The last fifteen posts on this thread actually belong in "Filipinas. Opinions and Advice". We are hijacking the poor Subic Bay thread.
Engine Driver
06-25-19, 13:18
Yes there are lots of scams but the higher you go on the social economic ladder the fewer there are, eventually you get people who are more concerned that you are the scammer and these people would never think of scamming you.
In all countries, those higher on the socio economic ladder are not in the business of scamming individuals out of a few dollars. Their scams are more elaborate and involve fleecing the State with the cooperation of corrupt politicians. These scams cost the nation billions. The book "The Billion Dollar Whale" by Tom Wright gives a good example.
Another thing to remember is a lot of the girls in this area are from different parts of the country. Many live locally but with so many different cultures in the PH generalization is non existent. The guys that always say, "Filipinas do this" or "Filpinas do that" are so far from reality. The one he was with might have but no 2 are the same. Proceed with caution and make your own selection. This method of hunting only comes with experience not from a book or a web forum. Especially one where people use names like we do LOL.
PedroMorales
06-28-19, 07:23
Actually, no decent Filipina would be caught dead in public with a foreign monger, as her compatriots will assume she is fucking him for financial gain and potential migration benefits. More often than not, their assumptions are correct.This is a worldwide rule. Women, by and large, want to be with younger guys as they are on the same wavelength because of nature, nurture and hard wiring. As the Philippines has tens of millions of poor, many women use the hairy chequebook to get $$ from foreigners. There are groups of them who exchange tips on how to use Japanese, Koreans, Cheap Charlie Westerners and so on. Having some grandpapa from Texas does not impress the trike driving or Red Horse drinking fraternity, just as it would not their Western equivalents.
The foreigner is a source of steady cash flow for the woman. I drank with expats in Angeles, m shooting the breeze with them. The wife would send the trike to collect thm at 7 pm and woe betide them if their eyes wandered. The prettiest just got her claws into a nicer older guy and did waitressing when he was away as she did not like bonking armies of strangers.
These armies of women pick their survival strategies, much as any other parasite in nature does. The saddest thing for me is seeing the Pina Love ads by mothers of three, hoping someone will take care of them.
Nature is tough and usually merciless. Although we should have compassion, we should not BS ourselves. For most of us, our only game is our wallet.
I came here with the two suitcases, bought extra shoes locally, gave just about everything away, either as part of the divorce settlement, to my GF from home who needed the stuff or to some of my kids.
The majority of the mongers here only see bar girls, they are missing out on how culturally diverse and interesting this country can really be. Yes there are lots of scams but the higher you go on the social economic ladder the fewer there are, eventually you get people who are more concerned that you are the scammer and these people would never think of scamming you.
The mongering sub culture is really pretty small here compared to the numbers of foreigners living normal lives and the number of bar girls, and semi pros is likewise small compared to the number of regular girls out there.
To paint the entire culture with the brush you find on Burgos or Walking Streets is simply wrong.Agreed KG although CM, the interminable cynic, is probably choking reading this, but I swear I have met several normal and semi-pro girls who would make a delightful long-term partner (if you can put up with the tampo and don't mind sharing your wealth). The Filipinas are better lovers / partners than most women worldwide IMO. Well, Latinas certainly love to fuck, too. But even upper class beautiful Pinays from good families will consider a suitable foreigner. Just look at Miss Universe, the product of an East-West liason. Anyway, KG, GE, RK and others who live in PI, I will be joining you in 2022 maybe even Subic Bay. The cost of living and social / moral decline of USA particularly California (and lack of affordable nice pussy) is making the PI an even more attractive retirement option for me.
Every Filipino knows that a single foreign man in the 50-70 age bracket staying in three star hotels around the country is a sex tourist. They will be polite and ask you what your job is and how your vacation is going. You will not be fooling anyone when you say you are here in country for sight seeing, diving or for charity work. They will also not believe you when you say you are doing import-export business in the Philippines and came to meet some customers. The only importing you may be doing is baby batter from the USA and the only exporting you will be doing is sending over a 20 year old, illiterate, innumerate LBFM with crooked teeth back to your trailer park in Sioux City, Iowa. They all know you are here to fuck nubile young chicks who are about 30-50 years younger than you.
It is in this context that CM is saying that a middle class girl would not be seen dead with an elderly sex pest. Nothing good could possibly come of it.I and other ISGers go to PI and other countries for conferences and work, ED, but the underlying motivation is of course what you said.
But even upper class beautiful Pinays from good families will consider a suitable foreigner. This is becoming more and more acceptable over time as the individual girls and families generally become more exposed to the west: travel is becoming much more frequent and popular; many of the girls go to western colleges; there are simply more western faces around in socially acceptable roles. Imported sportsmen seem especially popular with the model / actors set. 😁.
In many ways the prospective white guy is the same as the pinoy courter: he'll be accepted but only if he's socially and financially acceptable.
Cheers. G.
GoodEnough
06-29-19, 01:10
Anyway, KG, GE, RK and others who live in PI, I will be joining you in 2022 maybe even Subic Bay. The cost of living and social / moral decline of USA particularly California (and lack of affordable nice pussy) is making the PI an even more attractive retirement option for me.As I was experiencing a brownout a few days ago, due to yet another blown transformer, I had to laugh while reminding myself that there are some things you just have to accept if you decide to live and be happy here. I guess that was the most difficult lesson for me to learn and it took me quite a while to internalize. For me, there are frustrations in living hereas I suppose there are anywherebut the advantages far outweigh the downsides. I also think it's important to give very careful consideration to where you ultimately decide to live in the country as location is, I believe, highly correlated with the types of expats you're going to meet on a daily basis.
One of the many reasons I like Davao is that, while there are ample mongering opportunities, the city is not a Class A mongering destination. Thus, we don't get many of the "two week millionaire" types whose sole objectives are to drink and monger. There's nothing wrong with the latter, but if you live here, and if these are the only guys you meet on a regular basis, the conversations become boring and predictable and it all gets pretty empty and old pretty fast. Most of the expats I know here live "normal" lives; are married or are in long-term relationships and are generally interesting people. Plus, the expat community here is comprised of so many nationalities, cultures and points of view that continued exposure to a portion of that community is a continuous learning experience. I guess that's one of the reasons that I would never choose to relocate to Subic or Angeles; I would miss that diversity and would miss the stability of the expat community that I find here.
I'm not criticizing the choices anyone else makes. It's a personal point of view that's evolved after having spent more than 40 years working around the globe in "developing" countries.
GE.
Most of the expats I know here live "normal" lives; are married or are in long-term relationships and are generally interesting people. Plus, the expat community here is comprised of so many nationalities, cultures and points of view that continued exposure to a portion of that community is a continuous learning experience. I guess that's one of the reasons that I would never choose to relocate to Subic or Angeles;.Thanks for your insights, GE. I have never been to Mindanao. I know Du30 is from Davao but it's too close to the extreme terrorists for me.
This is becoming more and more acceptable over time as the individual girls and families generally become more exposed to the west: travel is becoming much more frequent and popular; many of the girls go to western colleges; there are simply more western faces around in socially acceptable roles. Imported sportsmen seem especially popular with the model / actors set. 😁.
In many ways the prospective white guy is the same as the pinoy courter: he'll be accepted but only if he's socially and financially acceptable.
Cheers. G.Thanks, G. Hope to meet up with you in September.
Chocha Monger
06-29-19, 20:23
This is a worldwide rule. Women, by and large, want to be with younger guys as they are on the same wavelength because of nature, nurture and hard wiring. As the Philippines has tens of millions of poor, many women use the hairy chequebook to get $$ from foreigners. There are groups of them who exchange tips on how to use Japanese, Koreans, Cheap Charlie Westerners and so on. Having some grandpapa from Texas does not impress the trike driving or Red Horse drinking fraternity, just as it would not their Western equivalents.
The foreigner is a source of steady cash flow for the woman. I drank with expats in Angeles, m shooting the breeze with them. The wife would send the trike to collect thm at 7 pm and woe betide them if their eyes wandered. The prettiest just got her claws into a nicer older guy and did waitressing when he was away as she did not like bonking armies of strangers.
These armies of women pick their survival strategies, much as any other parasite in nature does. The saddest thing for me is seeing the Pina Love ads by mothers of three, hoping someone will take care of them.
Nature is tough and usually merciless. Although we should have compassion, we should not BS ourselves. For most of us, our only game is our wallet.These are very good points. Still, many mongers will convince themselves that the LBFMs want them for something other than financial and migratory benefits. They desperately want to believe that their LBFM is different from all of the others. The prospect of owning their very own piece of exotic snatch has them dancing like a squirrel in the path of a speeding Dodge Demon. The result is tragic but it will occur time and again because much like that squirrel, many mongers cannot escape their nature when it comes to pussy. They are eager to risk it all just for a nut.
Thanks for your insights, GE. I have never been to Mindanao. I know Du30 is from Davao but it's too close to the extreme terrorists for me.DC, don't rule it out.
I'm struggling to remember an Asian city where I felt safer wandering around town at 2 am than Davao. Add in honest taxis and nice eateries and it's a great place.
I'm pretty sure anyone who made a fuss in Duterte's back yard would become a suicidal fanatic regardless of if they intended to or not. 😁.
Enjoy. G.
GoodEnough
06-30-19, 02:13
DC, don't rule it out.
I'm struggling to remember an Asian city where I felt safer wandering around town at 2 am than Davao. Add in honest taxis and nice eateries and it's a great place.
I'm pretty sure anyone who made a fuss in Duterte's back yard would become a suicidal fanatic regardless of if they intended to or not. 😁.
Enjoy. G.Obviously, given that I live here, I side with Mr. G. Davao is likely the safest city in which I've lived and / or worked, and I have lived and / or worked in a hell of a lot of places.
GE.
Obviously, given that I live here, I side with Mr. G. Davao is likely the safest city in which I've lived and / or worked, and I have lived and / or worked in a hell of a lot of places.
GE.GE,
I think we may have missed the feature of Davao that Sir Cups would find most appealing 😁 :
I came across this flat chested lass in Davao.
Swore that she was the smallest of her sisters.
GE,
I think we may have missed the feature of Davao that Sir Cups would find most appealing 😁 :I guess Subic afficionados would be miffed at how Davao is a topic of conversation on their thread but I suppose at the end of the day any discussion involving the Philippines is bound to lack discipline.
GE,
I think we may have missed the feature of Davao that Sir Cups would find most appealing 😁 :You mean there are a lot of bustier girls in Davao? Hmmm. Maybe I will have a look after all. Thanks for the replies guys.
Re: Visited bar 50 50
50/50 does allow smoking but sometimes they limit it to near the bathrooms. The bar next door has a smoking lounge I believe. Hell it's 30 bars within a ten minute walk, just pick another bar. It's easy to find because 85% of the bars are non smoking.
Went to Baloy Beach and stayed at Blue Rock which is OK. Holed up with my main squeeze there who put on a little weight which I don't mind because some of it went to her nice tits haha. Tried to watch the Packers at Harley's at 1 AM but sadly it was not broadcasted. The only bar I went to besides Harleys was Landlocked (on the strip) because it was one of the few bars open early afternoon. Got swarmed by five angels there who took turns playing with my dick for the price of a lady drink. Love it. Took one of them back to Blue Rock before my main squeeze came over. Sorry to say The General's (bar) has new ownership no kitchen or TV so I wonder where all the ex-military guys go now to get plowed telling war stories and watching NFL football. Subic is better in November when the floating bars come out. Cheers.
I just returned from spending 10 days in Subic. It is my longest Subic stay in a long time, as I normally only stay two nights and head back to AC. I booked the new Central Park Reef Hotel and I have to say, it is outstanding. Easy to see that running hotels in AC for years shows in the operation of the hotel. I flew into Clark and my flight was delayed due to weather for over 2 1/2 hours, but my driver from the hotel was standing by and arriving at 0430 am, it was an easy drive to Subic and check-in was easy and fast.
First, let me say IMO the MAZE was definitely the place to go to enjoy the bars and atmosphere especially during the downpours. The value of the MAZE cannot be understated. When it comes to lady drinks and SOB's and coupons, you can really have a good time without breaking the wallet. One Subic bar wanted 300 P for SML LD, where the MAZE is 160 P.
As I really enjoy barhopping with friends, I was alone most nights, as I needed to remain in Subic. Sometimes it is hard to barhop alone, as you stick out like a "sore thumb" and the girls will either attack or ignore you. So, on this trip, a lot of nights I did spent a lot of pesos to start a party in a bar and had a lot of fun doing it. One weekend I did get to barhop with a couple of friends.
Wetspot was my base for most nights, as Brett and Beth are great hosts and provide a good starting point for any barhop. The lineup varied each night, but overall, each night had some nice talent on the stage. I also got to meet a lot of board members and local expats in Wetspot.
Rapscallion was my favorite bar on this trip. When I walked on my first night I counted 16 ladies on the stage and probably the best lineup currently in Subic. I really enjoyed barhopping here and I got to play Kalbo / No Kalbo a few nights. I like bars where you can have fun and table five or six ladies drinking SML's for 160 P each.
Rum Jungle was sort of slow my first few nights but seemed to pick up during my trip. I ended a few nights in this bar with a full table of ladies and some great country music playing. I love the POS system, as it is easy to keep track of your spending so there are no surprises at the end of the night.
Man Cave seemed to be busy most nights and a week before the contest I fell in love with #17 from the Ms. Dryden contest but sadly she saw me with her friend the night before and left me brokenhearted. But I went back three or four times and we had a great time.
Lollipop was good during the SOB Afterparty. Lots of girls and everyone drinking and partying when one lucky guy turned over the "Joker" and rang the bell.
Alaska seemed off until Parne came back (he was MIA: laugh and then it was the Alaska of ole'. Always a good time in here playing "Hip Hip Hurray" as the bar has a good layout to play.
Hot Zone was rocking during the SOB Afterparty on Friday the 13th: yikes: Simba cooked up and served some snake. Sadly, I did not get any. A lot of hot dancers on stage and one really hot pole dancer did a very sexy set.
Smoking Lounge (I think this was the name of the bar next to 20/20. We went in early and were the only customers. There were about 15 ladies in various stages of dress and locations throughout the bar, but we managed to get them together and played a game of "Hip Hip Hurray" and had some laughs and drinks. We exited stage left when five guys walked in and a couple of girls said "oh shit! Here come some trouble" and it did not mean in a good way.
Bottoms Up? I think this was the bar name. It is a small bar up the road from 20/20. This bar is cozy and had about 10-12 ladies. No one stood out, but still a fun group. We stayed for a few drinks, played "Hip Hip Hurray" and the manager was playing a few country songs. I bet a friend if the manager played another country song next, I would ring the bell (2200 P? Just messing around, as one bar I was in buying lady drinks, five ladies tabled, listening to country music, the only customer, the manager decided he has heard enough country after two songs, so I said Thank You and paid my bill and left. The next night I walked in the manager apologized and started playing country music. I told him no worries, I can listen to any music. : laugh: Long story short, the Bottoms manager did play another country song and I rang the bell.
Catwalk! I walked by this bar almost every day going down to Mangoes for lunch and I thought this bar was closed, as the outside is trashed. By when my friends were with me, we headed down and it was open. It had a full stage of ladies and I realized I knew the manager from 10 years ago in AC. I have to admit I was not feeling any pain at this point and I took a selection out for bible study. Tattooed from the rooter to the tooter. I woke the next morning thinking What the Hell.
The Office was not as good as past trips. It seemed to be down to a year ago. Not sure what has changed, but something sure is different here. They had some cute girls on stage, but I did not feel the same atmosphere as I have in past visits.
In summary, I had a great time. It rained a lot and it wasn't that hot and I got to judge the Ms. Dryden contest. Met a few new friends. When I left Subic I spent one night in AC to be near Clark for my flight. I barhopped one night in AC and I realized that Subic is just as good for me and I did not miss anything in AC.
Member #4698
10-08-19, 00:11
Robbaf, although its been 3.5 years since I was last in Subic, I always used to have fun there and hooked up with some darn nice, unpretentious, girls. Thanks for your excellent the update. I enjoyed reading your trip report.
Thank you Natty, I did have a good time and it was great to finally have a nice hotel in Subic and I think that really helped me enjoy my trip.
Robbaf, although its been 3.5 years since I was last in Subic, I always used to have fun there and hooked up with some darn nice, unpretentious, girls. Thanks for your excellent the update. I enjoyed reading your trip report.
Member #4698
10-08-19, 18:43
it was great to finally have a nice hotel in Subic and I think that really helped me enjoy my trip.Yeah, I checked them out on Agoda after reading your report. But I still have one question: does the Central Park Reef Hotel have or will eventually have a swimming pool? That is important to me so can invite girls over to splash and play away the afternoons by the pool. Not much else to do in Subic until the sun goes down. That is the prime reason I like Wild Orchid Beach Resort with their beachfront and / or pool side rooms.
Yeah, I checked them out on Agoda after reading your report. But I still have one question: does the Central Park Reef Hotel have or will eventually have a swimming pool? That is important to me so can invite girls over to splash and play away the afternoons by the pool. Not much else to do in Subic until the sun goes down. That is the prime reason I like Wild Orchid Beach Resort with their beachfront and / or pool side rooms.They said by the end of the year the restaurant and pool will be open on the top floor, basically like their sister hotel in Angeles. I have stayed there and that restaurant and pool on the top are very nice.
Checked out the new Bar Celona bar the other night. Other than the challenging 3 and a half flights of stairs the bar is very nice, cheap beer (50 pesos) good service, ladies available but not overwhelming to buy a ladies drink. Definitely a welcome addition to Barretto.
Robbaf,
In summary I realized that Subic is just as good for me and I did not miss anything in AC. Bravo Robbaf! Sheila in Wetspot is one of my faves.
Robbaf,
In summary I realized that Subic is just as good for me and I did not miss anything in AC. Bravo Robbaf! Sheila in Wetspot is one of my faves.Thanks DCups.
I am looking to book another Subic trip soon.
Robb.
They said by the end of the year the restaurant and pool will be open on the top floor, basically like their sister hotel in Angeles. I have stayed there and that restaurant and pool on the top are very nice.I would take any promise of a completed construction project with a grain of salt. This is not a country known for being on time and on budget with anything other than a blow job.
I would take any promise of a completed construction project with a grain of salt. This is not a country known for being on time and on budget with anything other than a blow job.Even then they often show up late and ask for more money.
Any updates / advise on girl friendly hotels / resorts around Barrio Barreto?
Thank you.
Any updates / advise on girl friendly hotels / resorts around Barrio Barreto?
Thank you.Yes, as the Eminent WR would say. "PM (Private Message) me and I will give you all the gen (info)".
You can save money and frustrations by paying the subscription fee and thus PM facility.
I am standing in for WR during the festive season. Hope he is enjoying his break from ISG, and back soon.
Stayed for two days, bars / clubs are not so close to each other like AC. But girls were showing better attitude.
Had two sessions with two different ladies. My trip was se time ago, and Cheep Charlie's waa a great place. Picked up a lady and it was okey okey experience. Next I picked up another lady from a bar,(forgot the name, but girl was using name. Catherine for herself). Great sexy body but she was coughing a lot. So I decided to close the deal quickly. Nice tight pussy and open for CIM. If her health was good, I could have a longer play with her.
Stayed for two days, bars / clubs are not so close to each other like AC. But girls were showing better attitude.
Had two sessions with two different ladies. My trip was se time ago, and Cheep Charlie's waa a great place. Picked up a lady and it was okey okey experience. Next I picked up another lady from a bar,(forgot the name, but girl was using name. Catherine for herself). Great sexy body but she was coughing a lot. So I decided to close the deal quickly. Nice tight pussy and open for CIM. If her health was good, I could have a longer play with her.Been to Angeles few months ago and ST seemed the norm for barfines.
Subic bars barfines are STs only?
May try subic next visit.
Any updates / advise on girl friendly hotels / resorts around Barrio Barreto?
Thank you.I do not know of any hotels that are not girl friendly in Barretto. That is pretty much why they have them in Barretto.
Been to Angeles few months ago and ST seemed the norm for barfines.
Subic bars barfines are STs only?
May try subic next visit.Depents on the girl and the bar very much. Some girls have kids at home = ST.
Some are 18 or 19 and the parents expect them to be home at 12 = ST.
Others stay with you until afternoon.
I try to resist the ST for 3000 girls no matter how good they look because it sets a reference for all the other girls.
And usually the ST girls are much less into it. Never the less I also had good ST with girls that stayed from 18-24 with bar hopping and 2-3 pops.
Prices are 2500-3000. No matter if short or long term.
MikeHunt1227
01-14-20, 23:11
So I thought I should check out Tripadvisor reviews about this new hotel. Clearly there are some families booking there who were surprised at the neighbourhood and some of the activities in the hotel. I am curious about one comment: " I might have been brought up too confined but I certainly have never seen a "Bed time stories seller people and red light district." Anybody have any insight into bed time stories sellers? I think this is something every hotel should offer!
In case any questions arise (MGCQ = Modified General Community Quarantine) the last step before new normal. It could go back at any time but for now the bars are allowed to open at 50% capacity. Girl bars are also open but without dancers all are waitresses now. Recon mission shows as follows, if I missed someone I apologize just relaying intel.
Outback. Sopposedly open but no recon.
Queen Victoria. No intel but supposedly soon.
Rosies. Open, didn't enter to check it out.
Alaska Club. Open Tuesday July 7.
Dryden. All closed but some soon to open.
Bottoms Up - open several hotties outside waiting.
Crazy Horse. Open, girls outside but no idea.
50-50 - Open, about 8 girls available, all solid and ready to rumble.
Coco Lips. Open several girls outside waiting.
Hot Zone. Open girls outside, no recon.
Blue Butterfly. Open, great lineup of about 10 girls inside and out.
No details just reporting what is up. Temperature checks, feet cleaning, masks, required, and sign in at all bars. The over 60 restriction seems to be null and void.
In case any questions arise (MGCQ = Modified General Community Quarantine) the last step before new normal. It could go back at any time but for now the bars are allowed to open at 50% capacity. Girl bars are also open but without dancers all are waitresses now. Recon mission shows as follows, if I missed someone I apologize just relaying intel.
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No details just reporting what is up. Temperature checks, feet cleaning, masks, required, and sign in at all bars. The over 60 restriction seems to be null and void.Thanks for the update. I'd be interested to know how many guys were in the bars. I thought the expat population in subic was dropping but I could be wrong.
I had a good time in subic last time I was there (a while ago now, just after they introduced the absurd 'no barfines' policy) but I was mostly dealing with freelancers. I just used the bars as watering holes and meeting places.
Cheers G.
Thanks for the update. I'd be interested to know how many guys were in the bars. I thought the expat population in subic was dropping but I could be wrong.
I had a good time in subic last time I was there (a while ago now, just after they introduced the absurd 'no barfines' policy) but I was mostly dealing with freelancers. I just used the bars as watering holes and meeting places.
Cheers G.I only went to 3 bars yesterday.
Sit and Bull Annex had 5 customers.
50-50 had about 6.
Blue Butterfly had about 10.
I only went to 3 bars yesterday.
Sit and Bull Annex had 5 customers.
50-50 had about 6.
Blue Butterfly had about 10.That's more than when I was there in preCovid19, though admittedly low season, times. 😃.
Member #4698
07-07-20, 12:49
I had a good time in subic last time I was there (a while ago now, just after they introduced the absurd 'no barfines' policy) but I was mostly dealing with freelancers. I just used the bars as watering holes and meeting places.
Cheers G.What is this "No barfine" policy? Does it really mean no takeout? Or does it mean you pay the girl outside the bar? I heard barfines (EWR's) were getting expensive in Bario Barretto pre Corona, but no barfines would be absurd. I like Subic as much as anybody because it offers a pleasant diversion from AC and it comes with an ocean breeze, but no takeout would destroy the reason d'etre for going there. There are a number of really beautiful, clear, clean water, BYO beaches in the PI. The Baloy beach sucks except at a distance. I wouldn't walk that beach barefoot. LOL.
What is this "No barfine" policy? Does it mean no takeout? Or does it mean you pay the girl outside the bar? I heard barfines (EWR's) were getting expensive in Bario Barretto, but no barfines would be absurd.It's just a technicality after a few bars were raided. EWRs are no longer paid direct to the bar, mamasans won't even give punters a price so everything is a one on one discussion with the girls. This lead to an immediate spike in prices and drop in performance. From memory, lookers were seeking 3500 often for ST and the run of the mill were 2-2500. As I said, I found the freelance / online scene much better and just drank and watched eye candy when actually in the bars.
This may be old info though as it's been a long time since I was in Bario.
Enjoy. G.
Member #4698
07-07-20, 13:09
It's just a technicality after a few bars were raided. EWRs are no longer paid direct to the bar, mamasans won't even give punters a price so everything is a one on one discussion with the girls. This lead to an immediate spike in prices and drop in performance. From memory, lookers were seeking 3500 often for ST and the run of the mill were 2-2500. As I said, I found the freelance / online scene much better and just drank and watched eye candy when actually in the bars.
This may be old info though as it's been a long time since I was in Bario.
Enjoy. G.Thanks for clearing that up. Yeah, I heard that prices had shot up to the moon back in February. What things will be like post Corona is speculative. Bario Barretto used to be a funky, low key honky tonk bar scene. I hope it can survive.
It's just a technicality after a few bars were raided. EWRs are no longer paid direct to the bar, mamasans won't even give punters a price so everything is a one on one discussion with the girls. This lead to an immediate spike in prices and drop in performance. From memory, lookers were seeking 3500 often for ST and the run of the mill were 2-2500. As I said, I found the freelance / online scene much better and just drank and watched eye candy when actually in the bars.
This may be old info though as it's been a long time since I was in Bario.
Enjoy. G.Freelancers have been pretty much non-existent in Barretto for a long time unless you like girls with "extra" equipment. Maybe an occasional girl but mostly baklas.
Freelancers have been pretty much non-existent in Barretto for a long time unless you like girls with "extra" equipment. Maybe an occasional girl but mostly baklas.Mine were from online rather than traditional street walkers. Yes, it was a long time ago but I still see numerous girls online from Olongapo or Subic.
Cheers. G.
Subic is pretty much happening for the few that can get here or are in country. Plenty of girls and not many customers. Bargains can be had, I am sure there will be plenty of objections but I am here. Pussy is everywhere and at bargain prices.
Subic is pretty much happening for the few that can get here or are in country. Plenty of girls and not many customers. Bargains can be had, I am sure there will be plenty of objections but I am here. Pussy is everywhere and at bargain prices.Tonnes of Zamabales girls online. Most are happy to come around NOW. A few have profile pics still in the bar leaving little to doubt.
Member #4729
07-23-21, 18:08
Would it be reasonable to conclude from the inactivity on this forum that Subic is equally deserted and not open for business. I was of the understanding that at least a few bars were operating, albeit in a limited capacity.
Anyone on the ground?
Would it be reasonable to conclude from the inactivity on this forum that Subic is equally deserted and not open for business. I was of the understanding that at least a few bars were operating, albeit in a limited capacity.
Anyone on the ground?Barretto is wide open, some bars have closed but many remain open as well as a few new ones that have opened during the pandemic.
Arizona Red Baron pub open - Girls available.
Blue Butterfly (formerly Toucan) - open girls available.
Velvet Touch - Open waitresses for take out if wanted.
Coco Lips - Closed being renovated.
50/50 - was sold and also being renovated.
Crazy Horse - Open girls available.
Bottoms Up - Open girls available.
Hot Zone - Open girls available.
Man cave - Closed.
Rapscallions - Closed.
Green Room - (formerly Rum Jungle) open girls available.
Wet Spot - Open girls available.
Voodoo - (formerly Lipsticks) open girls available.
Alaska - Open girls available.
Rosies - Open girls available.
Thumbstar - Open girls available.
Sports bars
Dynamite Dicks - Open.
Barcelona - Open.
Cheap Charlies - Open.
Johannsens - Closed.
The Pub - Open, hot waitresses not sure of take out.
Adams Sports bar - Open, New place (formerly Barretto sports bar).
Whiskey Girl - Open (formerly The Office) not sure of girl situation.
Outback - Open same as above.
Gum leaves - Closed.
Alley Cats - Open.
Winking Pussycat - Closed.
Midnight Rambler - Closed.
Queen Victoria - Open, hot waitresses, not sure of take out options.
Dive Inn - Open
Annex - Open
Many bars on Baloy beach open, Harleys, Blue Rock, Treasure Island.
So it is anything but deserted. Limited customers but the bars are surviving.
Member #4729
07-24-21, 19:28
Barretto is wide open, some bars have closed but many remain open as well as a few new ones that have opened during the pandemic.
So it is anything but deserted. Limited customers but the bars are surviving.Thanks for taking the time to type this out- its encouraging if also sobering. I'm glad the bars will be starting out from some level of operation when / if mongers are able to return. My worry would be that will hobbyists flood in en masse and the facilities / providers are not there for them causing massive price inflation for services.
Thank you again.
Zebra.
Thanks for taking the time to type this out- its encouraging if also sobering. I'm glad the bars will be starting out from some level of operation when / if mongers are able to return. My worry would be that will hobbyists flood in en masse and the facilities / providers are not there for them causing massive price inflation for services.
Thank you again.
Zebra.Things were slow before Covid, when things do open there isn't going to be an overpopulation of mongers willing to do quarantine and go through the hassle of international travel. Plus when things do open somewhat many of the girls that left for their provinces will return. This is the Philippines, there will never be a shortage of women.
Good to know, Beav. It is now March and I am currently in Duma but I will be visiting AC and Subic next month. Cheers.
Barretto is wide open, some bars have closed but many remain open as well as a few new ones that have opened during the pandemic.
Arizona Red Baron pub open - Girls available.
Blue Butterfly (formerly Toucan) - open girls available.
Velvet Touch - Open waitresses for take out if wanted.
Coco Lips - Closed being renovated.
50/50 - was sold and also being renovated.
Crazy Horse - Open girls available.
Bottoms Up - Open girls available.
Hot Zone - Open girls available...
Good to know, Beav. It is now March and I am currently in Duma but I will be visiting AC and Subic next month. Cheers.Have the rules to move from Province A to Province B eased at all?
Have you made it to Mindanao yet? Lots of DD's there.
Enjoy. G.
WestCoast1
03-05-22, 04:21
Have the rules to move from Province A to Province B eased at all?
Have you made it to Mindanao yet? Lots of DD's there.
Enjoy. G.I posted previously the link to S-Pass. The SPass website has a list of cities where you can travel, and any restrictions to / from each city, and it is updated regularly.
S-Pass homepage: https://www.s-pass.ph/.
Link for the Google Play store S-Pass app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ph.gov.oneexpert.spass.webview&hl=en_US&gl=US.
I posted previously the link to S-Pass. The SPass website has a list of cities where you can travel, and any restrictions to / from each city, and it is updated regularly.
S-Pass homepage: https://www.s-pass.ph/.
Link for the Google Play store S-Pass app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ph.gov.oneexpert.spass.webview&hl=en_US&gl=US.Both the website and the app asks for your Philippine cell number so this its pointless to try to use until you get a working number.
WestCoast1
03-05-22, 16:51
Have the rules to move from Province A to Province B eased at all?
Both the website and the app asks for your Philippine cell number so this its pointless to try to use until you get a working number.Correct. Use it once your are on the ground in Phils.
* A related side. This happened almost a year into the pandemic. A lot has changed since then (due to continually changing restrictions, whether national, province, city, or Brgy), but it relates to movement from city to city. Its important to remember that this happened THEN, not RECENTLY.
At the time I was considering traveling from city "L" to city "M", by bus. Silly me, I didn't think. A year after the hard lockdowns had turned into lighter lockdowns in the area, I thought it was just a matter of once again jumping on the bus and going to city M. However, I was aware that there was at least one PNP checkpoint just past the city limits going north. By that time, checkpoints were allowing most traffic unfettered passing. Busses had to stop and passengers disembark to force them to step on a bleach-pad to disinfect their shoes, then back on the bus and on your way. One of my expat friends told me that I might need a city "Exit Pass" (or such). A city exit pass? Really? One would think that they might require an Entry Pass, a negative Covid test, a doctor's note, or such. But an exit pass?
The mayor's office was close by so I stopped in and inquired. "Yes sir you go in the Health office and get an exit pass. Very easy". I toddled off to the Health office and inquired. "Yes sir you need an exit pass. Can not depart the city without it. Within 72 hours before your departure". Check. "You will need your chest Xray. You can get at any lab. We have a lab near here if you like. Bring us the Xray". Check. "Within 72 hours prior to your departure sir. Its important". Check. I started to walk away, thinking of a lab that's close to my place. "Oh sir. Don't forget your doctor's note. Bring it". What doctor's note? "A doctor must examine your Xray". Check. I went to the lab up the street and got the Xray and doctor's written description of my Xray (about p300), and brought it back to the Health dept and they issued the Exit Pass. "You show that to anyone who wants to see it when you depart the city". Check.
That evening, city M announced that they were closing the city to everyone entering, due to Covid case increases. Great! Having the pass in hand, I changed gears and decided to go to city "P". Everything went off without a hitch departing my city L and entering city P. In fact, at 2 checkpoints, with my Xray and Exit Pass in hand, nobody asked me (or anyone else) for an 'Exit Pass' (or anything). Great! At one checkpoint as passengers were exiting the bus to go thru the foot-bath, an uniformed army guy (complete with machine gun) stepped on the bus and walked thru. "Sir are you a Senior?" Ya I am. "No need to exit the bus sir. Just you relax and enjoy the aircon". Thanks guy. He moved on down the aisle. Hey fella? Do you need to see my Exit -- hey where are you going? Do you want to see my -- hey I have my -- Where are you going? Nevermind! Upon arrival at the bus terminal in city P, I took a taxi to my new diggs -- no problem.
That was THEN. This is NOW. Everything changed in between, multiple times. In the new city P, things went from medium lockdown, to hard, to medium, to hard, to medium, to light. S-Pass (supposedly) keeps up to date and will tell you what conditions and documents for travel between your city and your upcoming city -- at that time.
Have the rules to move from Province A to Province B eased at all?
Have you made it to Mindanao yet? Lots of DD's there.
Enjoy. G.Hi G,
I signed a two-year lease for a nice home in Valencia west of Dumaguete yesterday. I have only been to Makati and Cebu City since I arrived February 18. My potential cebuana girlfriend is coming from Cebu to visit me this coming Wednesday so we will see how that goes. She's 20, stacked and beautiful. Hopefully she will want to move in with me, finish her degree and raise rug rats. I'm 66 so I'm not getting any younger. Valencia is a great municipality. Lush forest, temperature range 18 to 26 C (64 - 79 F). I am teaming up with other local musicians to set up a band in my house with a pool. Cheers.
WestCoast1
03-06-22, 01:05
Both the website and the app asks for your Philippine cell number so this its pointless to try to use until you get a working number.I tried the website. I typed 'Butuan' in the box and clicked "Check Restrictions", and it worked. To travel to / thru Butuan, it appears you must have the TCP (Travel Coordination Permit). I didn't login or sign up. See pic. The site also lists LGU official's names and phone numbers if you want to call to double-check.
Locamotive
03-06-22, 10:36
Correct. Use it once your are on the ground in Phils.
* A related side. This happened almost a year into the pandemic. A lot has changed since then (due to continually changing restrictions, whether national, province, city, or Brgy), but it relates to movement from city to city. Its important to remember that this happened THEN, not RECENTLY.
At the time I was considering traveling from city "L" to city "M", by bus. Silly me, I didn't think. A year after the hard lockdowns had turned into lighter lockdowns in the area, I thought it was just a matter of once again jumping on the bus and going to city M. However, I was aware that there was at least one PNP checkpoint just past the city limits going north. By that time, checkpoints were allowing most traffic unfettered passing. Busses had to stop and passengers disembark to force them to step on a bleach-pad to disinfect their shoes, then back on the bus and on your way. One of my expat friends told me that I might need a city "Exit Pass" (or such). A city exit pass? Really? One would think that they might require an Entry Pass, a negative Covid test, a doctor's note, or such. But an exit pass?
The mayor's office was close by so I stopped in and inquired. "Yes sir you go in the Health office and get an exit pass. Very easy". I toddled off to the Health office and inquired. "Yes sir you need an exit pass. Can not depart the city without it. Within 72 hours before your departure". Check. "You will need your chest Xray. You can get at any lab. We have a lab near here if you like. Bring us the Xray". Check. "Within 72 hours prior to your departure sir. Its important". Check. I started to walk away, thinking of a lab that's close to my place. "Oh sir. Don't forget your doctor's note. Bring it". What doctor's note? "A doctor must examine your Xray". Check. I went to the lab up the street and got the Xray and doctor's written description of my Xray (about p300), and brought it back to the Health dept and they issued the Exit Pass. "You show that to anyone who wants to see it when you depart the city". Check..While the Philippines did open to foreigner's Feb 10th but after reading several of these post its not truly open. I arrive Saturday, first visit in two years, but I've decided just Manila this time. Have some friends in Subic but after what I'm reading think Ill skip it. Catching up with regulars and maybe a few bar girls will certainly be enough for this visit. It seems though if you're open, then open. Yes we are open for tourism but to move around the country here is your list of hoops. Sorry that's not open and true tourist are not going to get involved with all that. Chest X-rays really? I'll be back in the summer for a longer stay and hopefully all this crap will be gone.
WestCoast1
03-06-22, 21:40
Yes we are open for tourism but to move around the country here is your list of hoops. Sorry that's not open and true tourist are not going to get involved with all that. Chest X-rays really? I'll be back in the summer for a longer stay and hopefully all this crap will be gone.As MM said, Manila is a sh*thole. It was before the pandemic, and its a stranger one now (but hey, its OUR sh*thole). I'm not telling you to stay in Manila necessarily, as the other bro's have said getting to AC was easy. Many places are open for non-restricted travel. Many require that TCP thingy*. Searching S-Pass is the easiest way. However, things change routinely. Staying in MNL for your Welcome-Back visit is not a sin, especially if you have previous chicas who are ready to meet up when you arrive. After the long dry spell, 2 weeks with several girls who are rotating and draining you daily, even in a more restrictive place, might be seen as heavenly. When things are less-restrictive, you will be back for future joy in your fav province with fewer hindrances.
* TCP. Create an S-Pass account first. THEN apply for your TCP for your destination (say, Butuan, like I showed before, requires the TCP). You fill out a form on S-Pass, upload any required documents, and get the Travel Pass to Butuan. You must apply for it 48 hours in advance. This kind of thing only applies to locations with restrictions.
https://www.thepoortraveler.net/travel-coordination-permit-s-pass/
. . I signed a two-year lease for a nice home in Valencia west of Dumaguete yesterday. I have only been to Makati and Cebu City since I arrived February 18. . . .Congratulations Cups! Super stoked for you man. I'm almost as excited as you are. Been waiting for this moment for about eight years! There was some things about Dumaguete I used to love. There was a motorcycle trail that started somewhere up around Valencia, and went north along the side of the mountain. You crossed through a couple river (through, no bridge) and for a long strip there was a great view of Siquijoir. It was all downhill so the locals would coast the whole way with the motor off. (Save fuel).
Lotta times you'the run into cute girls along the way. Hard to get though, Duma isn't the best place for girls. They been warned from birth about our type. Haha. Sounds like youll have a blast. Wish the fuck they wouldnt have closed Coco Amigos. You used to get an insane chicken enchilada with a couple of sides, some unique black beans and corn, and jalapeo salsa. 210 pesos. I still have wet dreams about that sometimes.
Hey guys just looking for some quick initial info before I dive into some research. Waited for the Philippines to open again since 2 years ago when I had to cancel my entire trip for obvious reasons. I heard it was open again and read about a few basic requirements, TRAZE app etc so I booked my tickets. My plan is 1 month in Olongopo in April as a I have a girl there. I come to this section of the forum and I'm reading about restricted travel and movement, s-passes and chest x-rays. Damn this doesn't sound like open to me. Yes maybe I pulled the trigger too quickly. I checked Subic and it says restricted, so how would I get to Subic bay from the airport if it's restricted and I need a local number to get a pass.
If I had of know about this nonsense I would not have booked and I may even cancel because it sounds ridiculous. Please provide some initial guidance.
WestCoast1
03-09-22, 02:18
If I had of know about this nonsense I would not have booked and I may even cancel because it sounds ridiculous. Please provide some initial guidance.I believe I posted about this exact thing just 2 days ago (and 3 reports back), 03-06-22, in my reply to Locamotive.
Read the post, follow the link. It will explain the app and process to get your TCP travel pass to Olongopo, po. Must be done 48 hours in advance of your travel to Olongopo. Gents already in AC, can he just bus to San Fernando or AC, then bus directly to Olongopo without hassle? Anyone have experience with this?
I believe I posted about this exact thing just 2 days ago (and 3 reports back), 03-06-22, in my reply to Locamotive.
Read the post, follow the link. It will explain the app and process to get your TCP travel pass to Olongopo, po. Must be done 48 hours in advance of your travel to Olongopo. Gents already in AC, can he just bus to San Fernando or AC, then bus directly to Olongopo without hassle? Anyone have experience with this?Thanks I did read your report and I followed the links but it seems like I'm going down some never ending rabbit holes. The s-pass website says Subic is restricted but nothing comes back for Olongopo. For restricted I maybe need a TCP? But my issue is getting there and what I need to get a TCP in advance.
Some websites say this is easy and some make it sound complicated like requiring health certs, applications need to be approved and each location has its own requirements. Some might even require a negative covid test.
I was about to pull the trigger on accommodation which is why I'm asking if there is anyone on the ground that can sum this up in terms of landing in Manilla and traveling on to Subic which is restricted, thanks again.
Hey guys just looking for some quick initial info before I dive into some research. Waited for the Philippines to open again since 2 years ago when I had to cancel my entire trip for obvious reasons. I heard it was open again and read about a few basic requirements, TRAZE app etc so I booked my tickets. My plan is 1 month in Olongopo in April as a I have a girl there. I come to this section of the forum and I'm reading about restricted travel and movement, s-passes and chest x-rays. Damn this doesn't sound like open to me. Yes maybe I pulled the trigger too quickly. I checked Subic and it says restricted, so how would I get to Subic bay from the airport if it's restricted and I need a local number to get a pass.
If I had of know about this nonsense I would not have booked and I may even cancel because it sounds ridiculous. Please provide some initial guidance.I drive between the AC and Subic every week. All you need is a pulse, they were asking for vax cards entering both Clark and SBMA but this week neither asked for them. Been both the SCTEX and the old highway. The checkpoints are unmanned. Only entering the bases are there actual guards and most are playing with their phones and won't even look up at you. Wear your mask entering and exiting the bases and it's smooth sailing except for a few bad drivers.
I drive between the AC and Subic every week. All you need is a pulse, they were asking for vax cards entering both Clark and SBMA but this week neither asked for them. Been both the SCTEX and the old highway. The checkpoints are unmanned. Only entering the bases are there actual guards and most are playing with their phones and won't even look up at you. Wear your mask entering and exiting the bases and it's smooth sailing except for a few bad drivers.I appreciate your input. I've done a lot of digging today and it appears that you are correct. Lots of foreigners moving between Angeles and Subic with no requests for passes but advising that you may need proof of vaccination.
WestCoast1
03-10-22, 00:10
I appreciate your input. I've done a lot of digging today and it appears that you are correct. Lots of foreigners moving between Angeles and Subic with no requests for passes but advising that you may need proof of vaccination.The worries are small, and as I see it, thus:
A checkpoint is manned. You don't have the applicable TCP or health document needed. You get a small citation (a fine), and they turn you back. Being turned back is the biggest difficulty, as you might then have to apply for the TCP and wait 48 hours to travel. I'm with Beavis, as there is small chance the checkpoint will be manned, and even when mine was manned, I was ignored. Hey, reminders of my ex-wife. Oh, that was bad. . .
AsianPursuits
03-10-22, 00:22
I drive between the AC and Subic every week. All you need is a pulse, they were asking for vax cards entering both Clark and SBMA but this week neither asked for them. Been both the SCTEX and the old highway. The checkpoints are unmanned. Only entering the bases are there actual guards and most are playing with their phones and won't even look up at you. Wear your mask entering and exiting the bases and it's smooth sailing except for a few bad drivers.Beavis thanks for the on the ground intel. I heard from work colleagues in Clark that the check point going north of Subic was more strict. Not that many mongers will be heading that way.
Beavis thanks for the on the ground intel. I heard from work colleagues in Clark that the check point going north of Subic was more strict. Not that many mongers will be heading that way.The checkpoint leaving Barretto towards Subic town has finally ended, the structure is still there but unmanned and no longer stopping traffic. Also the miserable road construction they were doing around Argonaut highway on SBMA appears to be complete.
I will be stopping over in the Philippines for a week in July after wrapping up a work assignment in Australia and then heading back home to the USA. I visited Angeles City for literally one night back in 2016 but I plan on spending the whole week up in Angeles City area this go around to get a better feel. I plan on renting a car and driving over to Subic / Olongapo while there but can't figure out how much time to dedicate. I am totally flexible on this trip and costs will not be an issue, I just want to enjoy myself and have a good time during the week. (Don't worry, I won't be doing the "one week millionaire" thing and upsetting the market while there but, I will be heavily partaking of the market).
Do any of you living in the Philippines or those with expert knowledge have any pointers on how long I should spend in Subic as well what are the better options for entertainment? I have always wanted to see the famous, or infamous, Subic Bay ever since I used hear older military guys talk about it when I was a little kid and teenager, and after seeing my much older cousin bring home his "first" Filipina wife after having been stationed at Subic while he was in the Navy. At that time I thought she was the most beautiful woman I had ever laid eyes on and told myself that I have got to go to the place where he found her. I have since learned a whole lot more about Subic via online research and talking with people that have been but it's my turn now. Actually, I would say Subic is my main priority on this trip. I am not leaving the Philippines until I have seen that place. Anyone have tips on how much time I should dedicate? I am thinking at least 2 - 3 nights but I don't know if that is too much or too little. I plan on soaking in Angeles City during the remaining time. Thanks in advance.
AsianPursuits
04-25-22, 14:30
Anyone have tips on how much time I should dedicate? I am thinking at least 2 - 3 nights but I don't know if that is too much or too little. I plan on soaking in Angeles City during the remaining time. Thanks in advance.Base don your lifelong fantasy I think travel directly NAIA to Subic and spend your time there until you realize it is just another place. While Olongopo boasts the most beautiful girls in the world according to their old signage, any girl is what you make of it.
I will be stopping over in the Philippines for a week in July after wrapping up a work assignment in Australia and then heading back home to the USA. I visited Angeles City for literally one night back in 2016 but I plan on spending the whole week up in Angeles City area this go around to get a better feel. I plan on renting a car and driving over to Subic / Olongapo while there but can't figure out how much time to dedicate. I am totally flexible on this trip and costs will not be an issue, I just want to enjoy myself and have a good time during the week. (Don't worry, I won't be doing the "one week millionaire" thing and upsetting the market while there but, I will be heavily partaking of the market).
Do any of you living in the Philippines or those with expert knowledge have any pointers on how long I should spend in Subic as well what are the better options for entertainment? I have always wanted to see the famous, or infamous, Subic Bay ever since I used hear older military guys talk about it when I was a little kid and teenager, and after seeing my much older cousin bring home his "first" Filipina wife after having been stationed at Subic while he was in the Navy. At that time I thought she was the most beautiful woman I had ever laid eyes on and told myself that I have got to go to the place where he found her. I have since learned a whole lot more about Subic via online research and talking with people that have been but it's my turn now. Actually, I would say Subic is my main priority on this trip. I am not leaving the Philippines until I have seen that place. Anyone have tips on how much time I should dedicate? I am thinking at least 2 - 3 nights but I don't know if that is too much or too little. I plan on soaking in Angeles City during the remaining time. Thanks in advance.Subic and the region Barrio Baretto (where all the nightlife happens and girlybars are located) is much smaller than Angeles City. More like a village compared to a city. There are only like 15 GirlBars, and now after Corona not all are reopen probably. The Bar girls come from everywhere of the country, but also some local girls. Besides, there is no disco (Olongapo City has one) and some massage places. 3 nights is enough to see most. But all depends on your preferences and where you like it more. Or you find a nice Filipina women there for longtime fun, who knows? I would spend more time in Angeles, but if you are flexible you can change between them (only 1 hour drive apart).
Curfew has been lifted, a few more bars opening and more girls returning. Things are more expensive now as it is everywhere in the world. Bar fine averaging around 3 K which at todays rate is 57 USD for 2 to 4 hours and if you can find the right one you can keep her all night. The stunners might ask for a little more. Of course you can always haggle but are you going to fly for many hours then argue over 10 or 20 dollars? Up to you, Walking Street in AC is much higher than Barretto. Beers are now 70 pesos to 110 pesos. 1.35 to 2.10 USD. Plenty of hotels except for Filipino holidays. Open bars are as follows.
Red Baron Pub in the Arizona resort. - 10-20 girls available, some hardcore ones and some lookers, onsite short time rooms or you can take her out.
The Hideaway - (Former Dive inn). A few girls, no bar fine here but they close early so you can stop in and if you see one you like you can arrange for her to meet you later.
Dynamite Dicks - A neat little expat hangout. Owner is there until 3 each day and will always buy your 2nd drink. Waitresses only, like The Hideaway they close early. Only a couple that would be worth meeting later. Different girls work different days.
MacArthurs - (Formerly Generals Command Post) - Tiny bar that closes early, worth a stop to see.
Blue Butterfly - (Old Toucan Bar) lots of girls there, changing every day. Take out available, some lookers.
Johnnys Resto bar - Not sure of the deal here, I have seen some pretty girls in front of there. They also have the occasional Bakla so if you aren't sure use the Crocodile Dundee method. Probably could do anything in there and nobody would care.
Coco Lips - Being remodeled, not sure when it will be open but soon.
The Curve - New bar with some girls, no bar fine available so you will have to work out when and where with the girl, probably on day off or after they close.
Chill -. Tiny new bar, take out available. Girls changing constantly so not sure of quality.
Cheap Charlies - Upstairs open air bar, some pretty girls. No direct bar fine, you must arrange with the girl.
The Annex - Local hangout for expats. The only bar that allows smoking inside. Not sure how as smoking is banned in all bars except open air bars, but somehow they do it. Some pretty bartenders but I think all have expat live in boyfriends or husbands.
Thumbstar - Constantly changing the lineup but one of the most popular bars in Barretto. All girls can be bar fined. Also has hotel so could be a one stop shop. Centrally located.
Luxe - The newest bar, haven't been inside yet. Not sure if girls can be taken out.
Adams Sports bar - Same as above but I think some type of arrangement can be made.
Gum leaves - Currently closed but supposedly opening soon as a live music venue.
Outback - Nice bar, pretty girls not sure of bar fine protocol.
Johns Steakhouse and Sushi bar - John was the owner of the Pub but the place was sold so he moved to a new location across the road from Shambolis Pizza. 2nd and 3rd floor, restaurant and sports bar. Great food, also good availability of imported meats, cheeses, and other food available as a grocery store. 3rd floor is billiards. Cute girls but no direct take out available.
IDM or It Don't Matter - (Formerly T rose) A locals hangout, good place for conversation with expats, also great food. Girls are waitresses only. Day off syndrome here also.
Voodoo - (old Crazy Horse building) girls there, take out available. Have not been inside so I don't know but have seen some pretty ones standing outside trying to persuade customers to go inside.
Bottoms Up - New location right beside Voodoo. Same as Voodoo, have not been inside.
The Hot Zone - My vote for the cleanest most well run bar in Barretto. Always adding new girls, owner always there, he keeps everything in order. Most girls are available for take out. 2,500 short time (2 hours) or 3,500 all night.
Barcelona - On top of Dryden complex. Entrance by where the Man Cave used to be. 3 long flights of stairs. Great view from the top but somewhat of a struggle after several drinks to go down all of those stairs. I think any girl you are interested in here you would have to work it out for later. I avoid, too many stairs but it is a nice bar.
The Green Room - (Former Rum Jungle) now a sports bar, many girls available. They have the drink passport which every time you buy a beer or drink for yourself you get a credit. After 10 your next is free and once filled you have a full night of drinking for half price. Cards never expire and can be used at any time. Best to fill it up then go back a different night and drink for half price. Lady drinks and drinks for other people cannot be applied. Some smoking hot girls there, bar fine is whatever you work out with her. No direct system.
Wet Spot - Next door to Green Room, many girls available. Same system as Green Room. Both are closed on Mondays.
The old Lolipop is now the Sit and Bull restaurant.
Alaska - Owner is finally back, new girls, pool tournaments, most can be taken out.
Rosies - Open with girls available for take out. Have not been there for a long time so no idea what is inside. Was a neat little bar on my last visit in 2020. It survived the pandemic so they must be doing something right.
The Old Winking Pussycat is now the Wild Herbs Thai restaurant.
Alley cat - is still open as a small sports bar. At least I think so.
Queen Victoria - Open as a sport bar, live music venue. Some pretty girls most are available for take out.
I think that is all of the Barretto bars. Many bars open on Baloy beach but none with girls Will cover food options soon. Some great restaurants now available in Barretto.
Dion Cassius
05-05-22, 02:02
Curfew has been lifted, a few more bars opening and more girls returning. Things are more expensive now as it is everywhere in the world. Bar fine averaging around 3 K which at todays rate is 57 USD for 2 to 4 hours and if you can find the right one you can keep her all night. The stunners might ask for a little more. Of course you can always haggle but are you going to fly for many hours then argue over 10 or 20 dollars? Up to you, Walking Street in AC is much higher than Barretto. Beers are now 70 pesos to 110 pesos. 1.35 to 2.10 USD. Plenty of hotels except for Filipino holidays. Open bars are as follows.
Red Baron Pub in the Arizona resort. - 10-20 girls available, some hardcore ones and some lookers, onsite short time rooms or you can take her out.
The Hideaway - (Former Dive inn). A few girls, no bar fine here but they close early so you can stop in and if you see one you like you can arrange for her to meet you later.
Dynamite Dicks - A neat little expat hangout. Owner is there until 3 each day and will always buy your 2nd drink. Waitresses only, like The Hideaway they close early. Only a couple that would be worth meeting later. Different girls work different days.
MacArthurs - (Formerly Generals Command Post) - Tiny bar that closes early, worth a stop to see.
Blue Butterfly - (Old Toucan Bar) lots of girls there, changing every day. Take out available, some lookers.
Johnnys Resto bar - Not sure of the deal here, I have seen some pretty girls in front of there. They also have the occasional Bakla so if you aren't sure use the Crocodile Dundee method. Probably could do anything in there and nobody would care.
Coco Lips - Being remodeled, not sure when it will be open but soon.
The Curve - New bar with some girls, no bar fine available so you will have to work out when and where with the girl, probably on day off or after they close.
Chill -. Tiny new bar, take out available. Girls changing constantly so not sure of quality.
Cheap Charlies - Upstairs open air bar, some pretty girls. No direct bar fine, you must arrange with the girl.
The Annex - Local hangout for expats. The only bar that allows smoking inside. Not sure how as smoking is banned in all bars except open air bars, but somehow they do it. Some pretty bartenders but I think all have expat live in boyfriends or husbands.
Thumbstar - Constantly changing the lineup but one of the most popular bars in Barretto. All girls can be bar fined. Also has hotel so could be a one stop shop. Centrally located.
Luxe - The newest bar, haven't been inside yet. Not sure if girls can be taken out.
Adams Sports bar - Same as above but I think some type of arrangement can be made.
Gum leaves - Currently closed but supposedly opening soon as a live music venue.
Outback - Nice bar, pretty girls not sure of bar fine protocol.
Johns Steakhouse and Sushi bar - John was the owner of the Pub but the place was sold so he moved to a new location across the road from Shambolis Pizza. 2nd and 3rd floor, restaurant and sports bar. Great food, also good availability of imported meats, cheeses, and other food available as a grocery store. 3rd floor is billiards. Cute girls but no direct take out available.
IDM or It Don't Matter - (Formerly T rose) A locals hangout, good place for conversation with expats, also great food. Girls are waitresses only. Day off syndrome here also.
Voodoo - (old Crazy Horse building) girls there, take out available. Have not been inside so I don't know but have seen some pretty ones standing outside trying to persuade customers to go inside.
Bottoms Up - New location right beside Voodoo. Same as Voodoo, have not been inside.
The Hot Zone - My vote for the cleanest most well run bar in Barretto. Always adding new girls, owner always there, he keeps everything in order. Most girls are available for take out. 2,500 short time (2 hours) or 3,500 all night.
Barcelona - On top of Dryden complex. Entrance by where the Man Cave used to be. 3 long flights of stairs. Great view from the top but somewhat of a struggle after several drinks to go down all of those stairs. I think any girl you are interested in here you would have to work it out for later. I avoid, too many stairs but it is a nice bar.
The Green Room - (Former Rum Jungle) now a sports bar, many girls available. They have the drink passport which every time you buy a beer or drink for yourself you get a credit. After 10 your next is free and once filled you have a full night of drinking for half price. Cards never expire and can be used at any time. Best to fill it up then go back a different night and drink for half price. Lady drinks and drinks for other people cannot be applied. Some smoking hot girls there, bar fine is whatever you work out with her. No direct system.
Wet Spot - Next door to Green Room, many girls available. Same system as Green Room. Both are closed on Mondays.
The old Lolipop is now the Sit and Bull restaurant.
Alaska - Owner is finally back, new girls, pool tournaments, most can be taken out.
Rosies - Open with girls available for take out. Have not been there for a long time so no idea what is inside. Was a neat little bar on my last visit in 2020. It survived the pandemic so they must be doing something right.
The Old Winking Pussycat is now the Wild Herbs Thai restaurant.
Alley cat - is still open as a small sports bar. At least I think so.
Queen Victoria - Open as a sport bar, live music venue. Some pretty girls most are available for take out.
I think that is all of the Barretto bars. Many bars open on Baloy beach but none with girls Will cover food options soon. Some great restaurants now available in Barretto.Awesome post! Full of useful info.
Curfew has been lifted, a few more bars opening and more girls returning. Things are more expensive now as it is everywhere in the world. Bar fine averaging around 3 K which at todays rate is 57 USD for 2 to 4 hours and if you can find the right one you can keep her all night. The stunners might ask for a little more. Of course you can always haggle but are you going to fly for many hours then argue over 10 or 20 dollars? Up to you, Walking Street in AC is much higher than Barretto. Beers are now 70 pesos to 110 pesos. 1.35 to 2.10 USD. Plenty of hotels except for Filipino holidays. Open bars are as follows.
Red Baron Pub in the Arizona resort. - 10-20 girls available, some hardcore ones and some lookers, onsite short time rooms or you can take her out.
The Hideaway - (Former Dive inn). A few girls, no bar fine here but they close early so you can stop in and if you see one you like you can arrange for her to meet you later.
Dynamite Dicks - A neat little expat hangout. Owner is there until 3 each day and will always buy your 2nd drink. Waitresses only, like The Hideaway they close early. Only a couple that would be worth meeting later. Different girls work different days.
MacArthurs - (Formerly Generals Command Post) - Tiny bar that closes early, worth a stop to see.
Blue Butterfly - (Old Toucan Bar) lots of girls there, changing every day. Take out available, some lookers.
Johnnys Resto bar - Not sure of the deal here, I have seen some pretty girls in front of there. They also have the occasional Bakla so if you aren't sure use the Crocodile Dundee method. Probably could do anything in there and nobody would care.
Coco Lips - Being remodeled, not sure when it will be open but soon.
The Curve - New bar with some girls, no bar fine available so you will have to work out when and where with the girl, probably on day off or after they close.
Chill -. Tiny new bar, take out available. Girls changing constantly so not sure of quality.
Cheap Charlies - Upstairs open air bar, some pretty girls. No direct bar fine, you must arrange with the girl.
The Annex - Local hangout for expats. The only bar that allows smoking inside. Not sure how as smoking is banned in all bars except open air bars, but somehow they do it. Some pretty bartenders but I think all have expat live in boyfriends or husbands.
Thumbstar - Constantly changing the lineup but one of the most popular bars in Barretto. All girls can be bar fined. Also has hotel so could be a one stop shop. Centrally located.
Luxe - The newest bar, haven't been inside yet. Not sure if girls can be taken out.
Adams Sports bar - Same as above but I think some type of arrangement can be made.
Gum leaves - Currently closed but supposedly opening soon as a live music venue.
Outback - Nice bar, pretty girls not sure of bar fine protocol.
Johns Steakhouse and Sushi bar - John was the owner of the Pub but the place was sold so he moved to a new location across the road from Shambolis Pizza. 2nd and 3rd floor, restaurant and sports bar. Great food, also good availability of imported meats, cheeses, and other food available as a grocery store. 3rd floor is billiards. Cute girls but no direct take out available.
IDM or It Don't Matter - (Formerly T rose) A locals hangout, good place for conversation with expats, also great food. Girls are waitresses only. Day off syndrome here also.
Voodoo - (old Crazy Horse building) girls there, take out available. Have not been inside so I don't know but have seen some pretty ones standing outside trying to persuade customers to go inside.
Bottoms Up - New location right beside Voodoo. Same as Voodoo, have not been inside.
The Hot Zone - My vote for the cleanest most well run bar in Barretto. Always adding new girls, owner always there, he keeps everything in order. Most girls are available for take out. 2,500 short time (2 hours) or 3,500 all night.
Barcelona - On top of Dryden complex. Entrance by where the Man Cave used to be. 3 long flights of stairs. Great view from the top but somewhat of a struggle after several drinks to go down all of those stairs. I think any girl you are interested in here you would have to work it out for later. I avoid, too many stairs but it is a nice bar.
The Green Room - (Former Rum Jungle) now a sports bar, many girls available. They have the drink passport which every time you buy a beer or drink for yourself you get a credit. After 10 your next is free and once filled you have a full night of drinking for half price. Cards never expire and can be used at any time. Best to fill it up then go back a different night and drink for half price. Lady drinks and drinks for other people cannot be applied. Some smoking hot girls there, bar fine is whatever you work out with her. No direct system.
Wet Spot - Next door to Green Room, many girls available. Same system as Green Room. Both are closed on Mondays.
The old Lolipop is now the Sit and Bull restaurant.
Alaska - Owner is finally back, new girls, pool tournaments, most can be taken out.
Rosies - Open with girls available for take out. Have not been there for a long time so no idea what is inside. Was a neat little bar on my last visit in 2020. It survived the pandemic so they must be doing something right.
The Old Winking Pussycat is now the Wild Herbs Thai restaurant.
Alley cat - is still open as a small sports bar. At least I think so.
Queen Victoria - Open as a sport bar, live music venue. Some pretty girls most are available for take out.
I think that is all of the Barretto bars. Many bars open on Baloy beach but none with girls Will cover food options soon. Some great restaurants now available in Barretto.OK guys I did a little scouting tonight and can add these amendments.
Arizona Red Baron Pub. Only 5 girls at 8:30 PM, very aggressive, buy me a drink. I did like one and wanted to talk to her but a second girl I did not like would not give us space. Unless you are staying there write it off.
Blue Butterfly. Some pretty girls but way too much in your face "buy me a drink, buy me a drink" will never go there again but they do have some pretty girls.
The Chill. Some pretty girls, bar is about the size of a bedroom that could accommodate a King sized bed. Some lookers, 3 K bar fine. I was the only person in there.
Adams Sports Bar. Some pretty, sexy girls there but evidently buy me a drink and maybe later.
Luxe. OUT OF THE PARK BEST BAR HERE. Met some girls I had seen before, smoking hot ladies, dancers onstage, I did not see an ugly, nor overweight girl. Very friendly, place looks like is was designed as a palace in Aspen, Colorado. Only problem is it is down some somewhat steep stairs. Had 2 SMLs and bought a ladiy's drink, bill was 290 pesos. Under 6 dollars. My new hangout, 27 thumbs up. All girls can be bar fined for 3,000 pesos. I will make a trip to meet the owner but this is the new gem of Barretto.
GoodEnough
05-15-22, 17:38
I spent 3 days in Subic last week after a two year absence. I think I've started to prefer it to Angeles. It's shabby yes, but somehow more laid back and somewhat less sleazy than Angeles and the vibe is totally different. I had a decent beach view room a Arizona Hotel which had decent food, good service and a totally friendly atmosphere. I cannot remember the names of most of the bars I sauntered into and out of, but it was strictly business as usual with barfines ranging from Php2,500 to Php3,500 all in and the selection was substantial when considered in the aggregate. Unfortunately, flights from Davao to Clark have not yet resumed with PAL, so I had to fly into Manila, and then used my favorite driver to meet me at the airport for the drive up to Subic, which took about 3 hours. The attitude of the girls in the bars I visit was excellent. No one was wearing masks in any of the bars, nor were masks worn in the hotel, which after two years was a welcome relief. There were no hassles with the flights, during which everyone was masked as they were in the airports aside from in the restaurants.
I'm thinking my Angeles days may be done and, when I do go up to Pampanga it will be to Subic and that surrounding area from now on.
GE.
I spent 3 days in Subic last week after a two year absence. I think I've started to prefer it to Angeles. It's shabby yes, but somehow more laid back and somewhat less sleazy than Angeles and the vibe is totally different. I had a decent beach view room a Arizona Hotel which had decent food, good service and a totally friendly atmosphere. I cannot remember the names of most of the bars I sauntered into and out of, but it was strictly business as usual with barfines ranging from Php2,500 to Php3,500 all in and the selection was substantial when considered in the aggregate. Unfortunately, flights from Davao to Clark have not yet resumed with PAL, so I had to fly into Manila, and then used my favorite driver to meet me at the airport for the drive up to Subic, which took about 3 hours. The attitude of the girls in the bars I visit was excellent. No one was wearing masks in any of the bars, nor were masks worn in the hotel, which after two years was a welcome relief. There were no hassles with the flights, during which everyone was masked as they were in the airports aside from in the restaurants..Question, does the bar fine include the girl's fee, or do you pay the fine for the club only and then you have to pay additional money to the girl?
Question, does the bar fine include the girl's fee, or do you pay the fine for the club only and then you have to pay additional money to the girl?Bar Fine is all you have to pay but if a girl takes care of you and you don't give her anything that sucks. Now if she comes and quickly gets aggressive to get you off then leave fuck her. She got her bar cut and only wants to get back to bar fine again. The Barretto girls aren't as pretty as the AC girls but they are much more laid back. You have to decide what works for you. Subic girls average better service but less on the looks.
Will create one soon, I don't eat out a lot so can only comment on first hand experience and references from friends. Will do the single monger eat places plus the take a date places from the best of my knowledge.
Question, does the bar fine include the girl's fee, or do you pay the fine for the club only and then you have to pay additional money to the girl?Technically, the barfine includes full payment for both the house and the girl.
However, as others have said you can add a tip for good service. I emphasise tip, not payment. I've tipped zero before when it was warranted without consequence. Serveral hundred is normal. A thousand would only be if she stayed all night, most of the next day and was a delight to be with.
Enjoy. G.
P.S. Note that this doesn't apply everywhere. On Burgos, girls expect their full payment in the morning and several other areas work the same.
Excellent post.
Incidentally, how was the weather. The weather reports indicate pretty much constant rain until around July.
I spent 3 days in Subic last week after a two year absence. I think I've started to prefer it to Angeles. It's shabby yes, but somehow more laid back and somewhat less sleazy than Angeles and the vibe is totally different. I had a decent beach view room a Arizona Hotel which had decent food, good service and a totally friendly atmosphere. I cannot remember the names of most of the bars I sauntered into and out of, but it was strictly business as usual with barfines ranging from Php2,500 to Php3,500 all in and the selection was substantial when considered in the aggregate. Unfortunately, flights from Davao to Clark have not yet resumed with PAL, so I had to fly into Manila, and then used my favorite driver to meet me at the airport for the drive up to Subic, which took about 3 hours. The attitude of the girls in the bars I visit was excellent. No one was wearing masks in any of the bars, nor were masks worn in the hotel, which after two years was a welcome relief. There were no hassles with the flights, during which everyone was masked as they were in the airports aside from in the restaurants.
I'm thinking my Angeles days may be done and, when I do go up to Pampanga it will be to Subic and that surrounding area from now on.
GE.
BroComplex
06-04-22, 10:11
Technically, the barfine includes full payment for both the house and the girl.
However, as others have said you can add a tip for good service. I emphasise tip, not payment. I've tipped zero before when it was warranted without consequence. Serveral hundred is normal. A thousand would only be if she stayed all night, most of the next day and was a delight to be with.
Enjoy. G.
P.S. Note that this doesn't apply everywhere. On Burgos, girls expect their full payment in the morning and several other areas work the same.I only tip 1000 for 3 holer. 500 for good service, meaning 2 rounds at night and one in the morning. 200 that's basically taxi money if no round in the morning and nothing if she leaves early, no BJ or only did one round at night.
GoodEnough
06-04-22, 14:30
Excellent post.
Incidentally, how was the weather. The weather reports indicate pretty much constant rain until around July.The weather was extremely hot when I was there, but there was very little rain.
GE.
Pussycat123
06-11-22, 21:24
Curfew has been lifted, a few more bars opening and more girls returning. Things are more expensive now as it is everywhere in the world. Bar fine averaging around 3 K which at todays rate is 57 USD for 2 to 4 hours and if you can find the right one you can keep her all night. The stunners might ask for a little more. Of course you can always haggle but are you going to fly for many hours then argue over 10 or 20 dollars? Up to you, Walking Street in AC is much higher than Barretto. Beers are now 70 pesos to 110 pesos. 1.35 to 2.10 USD. Plenty of hotels except for Filipino holidays. Open bars are as follows.
I think that is all of the Barretto bars. Many bars open on Baloy beach but none with girls Will cover food options soon. Some great restaurants now available in Barretto.Great post, thank you. I will be heading to BB this summer so I will check these places out.
RookieAngeles
08-10-22, 20:01
Great post, thank you. I will be heading to BB this summer so I will check these places out.Any updates on Subic?
I will be visiting Angeles at the end of September and was wondering if it's worth it to swing by Subic for a couple of days? This will be my first trip to the Philippines.
Appreciate any advice.
Threadbare
08-14-22, 22:27
Any updates on Subic?
I will be visiting Angeles at the end of September and was wondering if it's worth it to swing by Subic for a couple of days? This will be my first trip to the Philippines.
Appreciate any advice.I will be visiting AC early October and have booked 2 days in Subic as well. I have been to both many times, though not since covid. If you're still around and care to meet up pm me.
GentileBear
08-14-22, 23:50
Not trying to be mean. But for a first time Angeles City / PI visit. I would scratch off Subic Bay; unless you want to share War stories with other "Special Forces" guys who are 65+. That's my experience at least. If you are younger stick with Angeles City.
WestCoast1
08-15-22, 04:19
Any updates on Subic?
I will be visiting Angeles at the end of September and was wondering if it's worth it to swing by Subic for a couple of days? This will be my first trip to the Philippines.
Appreciate any advice.
I will be visiting AC early October and have booked 2 days in Subic as well. I have been to both many times, though not since covid. If you're still around and care to meet up pm me.Please see the-Cups recent post in the AC thread, regarding both AC and Subic, post #28008.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1972-Angeles-City&p=2731271&viewfull=1#post2731271
Please see the-Cups recent post in the AC thread, regarding both AC and Subic, post #28008.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1972-Angeles-City&p=2731271&viewfull=1#post2731271Most of the bars are open albeit late afternoon / evening / Girls want 3 K+ ST / Did not see anything above 6 maybe 7 out of 10. YMMV.
RookieAngeles
08-16-22, 04:20
Not trying to be mean. But for a first time Angeles City / PI visit. I would scratch off Subic Bay; unless you want to share War stories with other "Special Forces" guys who are 65+. That's my experience at least. If you are younger stick with Angeles City.This is exactly the kind of advice I was looking for. Much appreciate!
Thank you everyone for your feedbacks. It helped me decided not to go to Subic.
I will share my rookie experience (probably more like rookies mistakes) when I come back.
Not trying to be mean. But for a first time Angeles City / PI visit. I would scratch off Subic Bay; unless you want to share War stories with other "Special Forces" guys who are 65+. That's my experience at least. If you are younger stick with Angeles City.No one cares to listen about the old golden days? Such a shame. We should buy an old timer a beer and listen to how great it used to be.
AsianPursuits
08-18-22, 05:14
Not trying to be mean. But for a first time Angeles City / PI visit. I would scratch off Subic Bay; unless you want to share War stories with other "Special Forces" guys who are 65+. That's my experience at least. If you are younger stick with Angeles City.Do we go for the girls or the worldly experiences of our fellow punters?
Expat American
08-21-22, 16:48
Any updates on Subic?
I will be visiting Angeles at the end of September and was wondering if it's worth it to swing by Subic for a couple of days? This will be my first trip to the Philippines.
Appreciate any advice.I have been to AC dozens of times. Subic only once. I wanted to dive the wrecks (total waste of time with terrible water conditions) and spent a couple of nights in Subic. A handful of bars, nothing open during the day, not cheaper than AC. No decent hotels either. I cut my trip to one night and hightailed it back to AC. So Subic is a pass.
Want to know what is nice about Subic? No huge influx of Koreans, every bar is owned by someone (non Korean) who cares about their customers and none of them will ever rip you off. Angeles City is good for about a week of partying and hangovers then it has absolutely nothing to offer except bad roads, bad drivers, and horrible traffic. To each his own but it's hard to find much good to say about AC other than the nightlife.
Parasitius
08-22-22, 07:43
I absolutely love Subic, my best Philippines experiences were there. In 2014 it was cheaper by far than Angeles. Don't know about now, you see -+ I never went back because of the internet quality issues. Hotels also seemed to not take it serious and write stupid stuff like you should be present and enjoy not sit online. Yeah maybe if you are a factory worker or janitor? Most of us don't have jobs that are chill with people going totally AWOL in 2022
-+ I never went back because of the internet quality issues. It's a great topic on Internet Access, which has actually improved a lot, given that many might be interested in this topic I will post my thoughts and experiences in the general info thread, hopefully you find it useful.
The Pub hotel had consistent 150 mbs internet speeds, plenty for Zoom calls in the US. After four days I had no experience with outages. But I always keep my phone nearby to use as a hotspot in case th ehotel internet fails.
Many of the Barretto / Baloy establishments now use AsianVision Fiberoptic for internet. It is consistent and very seldom does it go out.
Few posters mentioned they would be visiting Subic over the summer and recent reports. Thinking of spending a few days here in conjunction with AC. Umderstamd much more sleepy than AC which O don't mind but wondering if there is any decent quality, like 6 or 7, what prices are like and genral vibe of bars?
Cheers.
YM.
I have been reading about this for some time now. I imagine things have changed a lot over the years.
I would like to know if there is any excitement by the local population and if there are any plans to revive "the old days".
LoveItHere69
01-15-23, 16:03
I have been reading about this for some time now. I imagine things have changed a lot over the years.
I would like to know if there is any excitement by the local population and if there are any plans to revive "the old days".You lost your mind? Where have you been? All the "good ol' days" are gone. The politicians pushed it to the brass who pushed it downward 9+ years ago. Roughly the military guys are forbidden to fornicate on leave and if caught could be demoted a rank. They have a 11:00 or midnight curfew. I do not know the specifics because they are always changing but you get the idea. I remember when they came to town the girls went nuts and the guys were out all night long. Then a few years later the guys were like a wild dog on a leash. I felt so bad for them because so many never were able to see the "good ol' days" that the older guys spoke of.
AsianPursuits
01-16-23, 00:11
You lost your mind? Where have you been? All the "good ol' days" are gone. The politicians pushed it to the brass who pushed it downward 9+ years ago. Too many social media posts, too many pictures, too easy for fun to be taken out of context.
LoveItHere69
01-16-23, 03:26
Too many social media posts, too many pictures, too easy for fun to be taken out of context.No. Not so much. You answer is small fries. You are either young or not well read. Try the marine that killed the trans Filipino in 2014 that hit international news for months. Several issues in Okinawa Japan in the past and hit international news off and on for years which caused the locals and large amounts of Japanese demanding our bases be closed there. Any thing a USA Personnel does is international news and problems for the military and politicians.
Since there is no hotel section for Subic, I'll put it here. I stayed at the Outback hotel. Best feature is the location and girl friendly. When I arrived to check in they said they couldn't find my reservation. I showed them my copy of the reservation and they found the reservation but said because of a mis-communication with expedia they didn't hold my reservation. They said my standard room was no longer available so if I wanted to upgrade to a larger room for an additional cost. I asked why do I have to pay for something that wasn't my doing. They blamed it on expedia. I was thinking of going to another hotel but if these guys weren't willing to at least give me a discount on an upgrade, what chance would I have of getting my money back on a non refundable room? I didn't want to fight them so I took the upgrade at an additional cost of $150.00 usd. The original cost was for $120.00 usd. After paying the fee then the female manager says now I'll go over some rules of the hotel. Great! First rule, no outside food is allowed. Second, no outside drinks except water was allowed. Third, must leave the key with staff when you leave the property. They want to make sure you spend money at their hotel.
My room was on the second floor and no elevator so keep that in mind if you need that kind of assistance. If you want your room cleaned you need to tell staff. I learn this on the third day since the room was never cleaned until I told them to. They don't really clean the room. Just made up the bed and replaced the towels. I doubt I will return to this hotel even though the location and price is good when they actually honor the price.
Here are the bars I went to in no special order. The secret bar. As I walk in there is a customer getting grinded by a bar girl at his table. My kind of place. I grab a seat and order a water. There were about 4 other girls in the place and were average in looks. The waitress came back and said they don't have water but they had soft drinks instead. Since the other girls were just average, I used that as an excuse to leave and told her I would come back when they had water. I never got back to this place.
The wet spot. Entered and grabbed a seat facing the stage. There were about 6 girls on stage with one being pretty cute. We exchanged smiles but before I called her down, I noticed some guys and girls going through a door. I asked the waitress where does that door lead to? She said the next door bar but only pool tables no stage. So I get up to walk through just to see if there any other girls there. Just like the waitress said pool table and people just sitting around. No lookers so went back to call the cute girl down. As I walk back, I see the girl walking from the stage to a customer. My indecision cost me. The only thing I could think of, I'll come back tomorrow and bar fine her then. Well that didn't happen either because when I went back on a Monday, the place was closed.
Continue of the bars I went to. The Hot zone. I went here after I found out the wet spot was closed. About 6 girls there on stage ranging from average to above average. Stayed for about half an hour and left. Then went next door to Myleens café to have dinner. I highly recommend this restaurant.
Lux. This is a nice set up bar with stage. My timing was bad as there were only 4 girls on stage that were average looking. There were about seven other customers but none had a girl with them. When the waitress brought my water I asked her if any other ladies would be coming in? She said no and told me 3 girls were barfined already. I then asked her how much was the barfine here. She said you have to negotiate the barfine with the girl. Interesting, I thought all bars had a standard pricing.
Adam's sport bar. This bar is located directly above Lux. First night I went there were about 10 girls but the hottest ones were with one customer. In fact, he had like 5 or 6 girls at his table two of which I would gladly barfine. He bought drinks and food for the girls. I like his style. Since the other girls were not to my liking, I left and came back the next day. Hoping at least one of the two girls I saw would be there, just my luck they weren't. So I did buy a drink for I guess my third choice. Anyways we were talking and somehow we got on the subject of strip clubs. She then lit up and said she knows a place not to far from the bar. I didn't think the Philippines had strip clubs so I asked her, a strip club where the dancers are fully nude? She said yes. I then asked her, if I barfine you can we go to this club. She said absolutely. The barfine was P $3500. I was more excited about going to this stripclub than the actual barfine.
Salomeh. This is the name of the strip club. As we were going there I asked how much is admission. She said nothing but had to buy drinks. This is somewhat correct. No direct admission fee but your first drinks cost more than usual. I believe for our first two drinks it came out to P $400 something. She had a beer for a second drink and that cost P $120. There were about seven customers when we got there with six girls on stage. They were clothed and doing the dance shuffle routine. Now this is not an American style strip club where the dancer perform a routine then will get all into your face. At least when I was there, there were no spread the legs to check what was between them. After their initial dance together, they went back stage. Then one would come out for a song and dance fully nude. So nothing hard core but I still loved it. At least you get to see what you get before hand. There were at least two that I would barfine. Two were average and two were on the bigger side if you like that. The hottest girl was slim pretty face, some baby damage but perky tits. Actually all the dancers had some kind of baby damage. If I didn't have the bargirl with me I would have barfined that one hot girl. I did ask my bar girl to ask the waiter how much the bar fine was. She told me she was pretty sure it was P $5000. The way that one girl looked, it seemed reasonable. Not sure how the service would be. We stayed for about an hour, no other girls showed up then went back to my hotel. If I come back to Subic this place will probably be my first stop.
To give you an idea of where this place is. It is just past the Jollybee's on the main highway. It's about a 10 minute walk from the Outback hotel and about 3 minutes by trike.
DandyMan51
02-22-23, 19:59
After Angeles city I went to Manila for a bit but got annoyed by the traffic and honestly the lack of any interesting tourist activities to do there. I also hated the apartment I was in (Admiral Baysuites, if anyone is interested). Check-in was a mess, the apartment was infested with bugs and the AC didn't work.
I arrived in the early evening (about 5 PM) and was tired from having a poor sleep the previous night so I took a nap. I woke up at around 10 PM and had to get some work done. I wasn't able to go out until around 1 AM which isn't a problem in Angleles but is approaching the end of the night in Subic. First place I stopped at was Rosie's tavern. There were about 3-4 girls there but none really caught my eye. I grabbed a beer and was asked by some girls if I would like to play connect 4. I declined though I was pestered by one particular girl a couple of times. I finished my beer and was on my way. I stopped by Luxe next as I had heard good things about it. No one really greeted me as I walked in and I was about to walk out when I was stopped by TinTin. She looked ok (Maybe a 5. 5/10) but seemed pleasant so I sat down for a drink. I bought her and another girl who came over a drink and they entertained me. A couple of other girls came around and sat down and talked with us for a couple of minutes at a time plus some mama-sans. I learned a bit about them and that girls typically come to the bars between 6-7 PM and that there had been 5 girls already barfined that day. In general it was nice. I considered barfining TinTin but she really wasn't up to my standard and I decided it was better to get a good night's sleep. After about an hour, the bar was closing so the girls got changed and I paid for my drink. A decent experience for the $7-8 I paid. I stopped by 7-11 and made my way back home.
The next night I decided to go out at around 6:30 PM. I made a quick stop at Rosie's where I found nothing again and went to The Wet Spot. Grabbed a drink and watched the girls. After a bit I decided to call K from the stage who was hiding in the back. She was thin and looked like a GND. I was told that this was actually her first night at the club and boy did it show. She was so nervous the whole time. Mama-san was trying to help, moving her chair closer to me, telling her to sip her lady drink slower (which was about 90% coke and 10% whiskey), telling her how barfines work and overall teaching her the rules of the trade. After a while I was able to get her comfortable enough to come out with me. Mama was so nervous that she offered to replace her for free if I wasn't satisfied. The girl and I negotiate a barfine. She asks for 4000, I counter with 3000 and she agrees. 1000 of which would be paid by her to the bar when she came back. We leave and I take her to Wild Herbs as I am hungry and I wanted her to feel a bit more comfortable. She is a small girl so she didn't eat much and so the marginal cost of taking her out was effectively just an additional can of coca cola (80 pesos). She was, however, absolutely delighted by the food as she had never been to such a nice restaurant. Now for anyone who hasn't been to Subic, Wild Herbs is an average fast casual restaurant. The total bill was somewhere around 15 USD between the two of us. So it gives you an idea of where some of these province girls come from. After the restaurant we go to my hotel. We talk and mess around a bit more on the bed. The girl was adorable and giggled like a high school girl but she was authentic and we both had a good time. After a bit she tells me about her secret hentai collection on her phone and we watch some together which is a good bridge to some foreplay. We move on and I start DATY. She compliments me on my soft lips and for the first time the girl stops giggling as I eat her out. After a bit she reciprocates and we move to FS. I ask her if she has gotten STD tests done and she says no. So I decide to do some CFS instead. I am on PrEP but wanted to be careful as I suspect this girl never had an STD test done on her before. We do a couple of positions and I cum with K in cowgirl. She stays on top of me and we make out for a bit before she gets off. She gets dressed and we joke around some more. I decide to take her back to the bar as a good gesture and because I wanted to stop by a 7-11 on the way. I get her FB and come back home. I later get a couple of messages from her saying how much she enjoyed her time with me and to hang out at the beach tomorrow. I tell her sure and that I will message her. I have one more day planned in Subic so we'll see how it goes tomorrow and tomorrow night. I may spend the week here with the weekend in Angeles moving forward.
Observations (so far):
1. Mongers here are old. Way older than those in Angeles City. Not necessarily a bad thing since I am young and moderately attractive so I tend to stand out in a good way. Old mongers also tend to be more chill which adds to the laid back feeling of this place.
2. No Koreans here. Probably because Subic airport doesn't have commercial flights whereas Clark does. You need to take a fairly expensive taxi or a bus here which I don't think Koreans will ever do.
3. Girls here are more friendly. There isn't as much of a business attitude here as there is in Angeles. You can get some authenticity and passion out of Angeles girls but it takes way more effort as they (especially the prettier ones) are more hardened.
4. Girls here aren't as attractive as Angeles City but the margin isn't that big. The average girl in both is probably similar but there are certainly more lookers in Angeles. The top girls in Angeles are around an 8. 5 whereas here outside of a very lucky find you won't find anything higher than an 7. 5 in Subic.
5. Lady drinks are relatively cheap here. I paid 170 pesos per drink.
6. It is a buyers market here. More girls than guys and a lot of the guys here just hang out with the girls. No need to compete to barfine the only 2-3 hot girls in the bar.
6. It is a buyers market here. More girls than guys and a lot of the guys here just hang out with the girls. No need to compete to barfine the only 2-3 hot girls in the bar.If you don't continue with K, or feel like a change, Subic also has a surprisingly active online scene. I've been very pleasantly surprised a few times. Many are happy to travel in from elsewhere in Zambales but don't set your search distance too far or you will include every bar girl in Angeles.
Thanks for the good report. G.
Gianni Versace
03-23-23, 02:16
Can anyone tell me the best hotel to stay at that is girl friendly in Subic Bay close to the action? Thanks in advance.
Hi Guys, any intel on the floating bar off Treasure Island? Man, it was great to have two or three LBFMs playing with your junk watching the sun go down with some san migs as a prelude to a group session on shore. I will be going to AC in May and may take a road trip to Subic. Thanks for any replies.
Hiya fellas,
I'll be heading Subic bay in July. Last year I had fun in subic bay but didn't try the discos.
Has anyone been to the new Nocturnal (M-2200 Superclub? Or club V recently and can report if worth going there solo in quest of friendly freelancers and semi pros / pros?
Happy to wingman when I'm there too (I'm 43 and I go alright haha).
Seba.
VictorHugo999
03-29-23, 08:11
Thanks DM,
Appreciate your FR.
Grest ro know its still possible to. Experience genuine GFE.
Feel. Like. Going now.
Victor.
After Angeles city I went to Manila for a bit but got annoyed by the traffic and honestly the lack of any interesting tourist activities to do there. I also hated the apartment I was in (Admiral Baysuites, if anyone is interested). Check-in was a mess, the apartment was infested with bugs and the AC didn't work.
I arrived in the early evening (about 5 PM) and was tired from having a poor sleep the previous night so I took a nap. I woke up at around 10 PM and had to get some work done. I wasn't able to go out until around 1 AM which isn't a problem in Angleles but is approaching the end of the night in Subic. First place I stopped at was Rosie's tavern. There were about 3-4 girls there but none really caught my eye. I grabbed a beer and was asked by some girls if I would like to play connect 4. I declined though I was pestered by one particular girl a couple of times. I finished my beer and was on my way. I stopped by Luxe next as I had heard good things about it. No one really greeted me as I walked in and I was about to walk out when I was stopped by TinTin. She looked ok (Maybe a 5. 5/10) but seemed pleasant so I sat down for a drink. I bought her and another girl who came over a drink and they entertained me. A couple of other girls came around and sat down and talked with us for a couple of minutes at a time plus some mama-sans. I learned a bit about them and that girls typically come to the bars between 6-7 PM and that there had been 5 girls already barfined that day. In general it was nice. I considered barfining TinTin but she really wasn't up to my standard and I decided it was better to get a good night's sleep. After about an hour, the bar was closing so the girls got changed and I paid for my drink. A decent experience for the $7-8 I paid. I stopped by 7-11 and made my way back home.
The next night I decided to go out at around 6:30 PM. I made a quick stop at Rosie's where I found nothing again and went to The Wet Spot. Grabbed a drink and watched the girls. After a bit I decided to call K from the stage who was hiding in the back. She was thin and looked like a GND. I was told that this was actually her first night at the club and boy did it show. She was so nervous the whole time. Mama-san was trying to help, moving her chair closer to me, telling her to sip her lady drink slower (which was about 90% coke and 10% whiskey), telling her how barfines work and overall teaching her the rules of the trade. After a while I was able to get her comfortable enough to come out with me. Mama was so nervous that she offered to replace her for free if I wasn't satisfied. The girl and I negotiate a barfine. She asks for 4000, I counter with 3000 and she agrees. 1000 of which would be paid by her to the bar when she came back. We leave and I take her to Wild Herbs as I am hungry and I wanted her to feel a bit more comfortable. She is a small girl so she didn't eat much and so the marginal cost of taking her out was effectively just an additional can of coca cola (80 pesos). She was, however, absolutely delighted by the food as she had never been to such a nice restaurant. Now for anyone who hasn't been to Subic, Wild Herbs is an average fast casual restaurant. The total bill was somewhere around 15 USD between the two of us. So it gives you an idea of where some of these province girls come from. After the restaurant we go to my hotel. We talk and mess around a bit more on the bed. The girl was adorable and giggled like a high school girl but she was authentic and we both had a good time. After a bit she tells me about her secret hentai collection on her phone and we watch some together which is a good bridge to some foreplay. We move on and I start DATY. She compliments me on my soft lips and for the first time the girl stops giggling as I eat her out. After a bit she reciprocates and we move to FS. I ask her if she has gotten STD tests done and she says no. So I decide to do some CFS instead. I am on PrEP but wanted to be careful as I suspect this girl never had an STD test done on her before. We do a couple of positions and I cum with K in cowgirl. She stays on top of me and we make out for a bit before she gets off. She gets dressed and we joke around some more. I decide to take her back to the bar as a good gesture and because I wanted to stop by a 7-11 on the way. I get her FB and come back home. I later get a couple of messages from her saying how much she enjoyed her time with me and to hang out at the beach tomorrow. I tell her sure and that I will message her. I have one more day planned in Subic so we'll see how it goes tomorrow and tomorrow night. I may spend the week here with the weekend in Angeles moving forward.
Observations (so far):
1. Mongers here are old. Way older than those in Angeles City. Not necessarily a bad thing since I am young and moderately attractive so I tend to stand out in a good way. Old mongers also tend to be more chill which adds to the laid back feeling of this place.
2. No Koreans here. Probably because Subic airport doesn't have commercial flights whereas Clark does. You need to take a fairly expensive taxi or a bus here which I don't think Koreans will ever do.
3. Girls here are more friendly. There isn't as much of a business attitude here as there is in Angeles. You can get some authenticity and passion out of Angeles girls but it takes way more effort as they (especially the prettier ones) are more hardened.
4. Girls here aren't as attractive as Angeles City but the margin isn't that big. The average girl in both is probably similar but there are certainly more lookers in Angeles. The top girls in Angeles are around an 8. 5 whereas here outside of a very lucky find you won't find anything higher than an 7. 5 in Subic.
5. Lady drinks are relatively cheap here. I paid 170 pesos per drink.
6. It is a buyers market here. More girls than guys and a lot of the guys here just hang out with the girls. No need to compete to barfine the only 2-3 hot girls in the bar.
Transporter
03-29-23, 15:06
The action is not only contained in the barrio. If you want a higher grade you can roll into the free trade zone, there are many KTV's and the like. If you want to take it down a notch, there are local bars in olongopo. And then of course there is calapandayan where they have both.
I am of course assuming originally it is barrio baretto in olongopo
After Angeles city I went to Manila for a bit but got annoyed by the traffic and honestly the lack of any interesting tourist activities to do there. I also hated the apartment I was in (Admiral Baysuites, if anyone is interested). Check-in was a mess, the apartment was infested with bugs and the AC didn't work.
I arrived in the early evening (about 5 PM) and was tired from having a poor sleep the previous night so I took a nap. I woke up at around 10 PM and had to get some work done. I wasn't able to go out until around 1 AM which isn't a problem in Angleles but is approaching the end of the night in Subic. First place I stopped at was Rosie's tavern. There were about 3-4 girls there but none really caught my eye. I grabbed a beer and was asked by some girls if I would like to play connect 4. I declined though I was pestered by one particular girl a couple of times. I finished my beer and was on my way. I stopped by Luxe next as I had heard good things about it. No one really greeted me as I walked in and I was about to walk out when I was stopped by TinTin. She looked ok (Maybe a 5. 5/10) but seemed pleasant so I sat down for a drink. I bought her and another girl who came over a drink and they entertained me. A couple of other girls came around and sat down and talked with us for a couple of minutes at a time plus some mama-sans. I learned a bit about them and that girls typically come to the bars between 6-7 PM and that there had been 5 girls already barfined that day. In general it was nice. I considered barfining TinTin but she really wasn't up to my standard and I decided it was better to get a good night's sleep. After about an hour, the bar was closing so the girls got changed and I paid for my drink. A decent experience for the $7-8 I paid. I stopped by 7-11 and made my way back home.
The next night I decided to go out at around 6:30 PM. I made a quick stop at Rosie's where I found nothing again and went to The Wet Spot. Grabbed a drink and watched the girls. After a bit I decided to call K from the stage who was hiding in the back. She was thin and looked like a GND. I was told that this was actually her first night at the club and boy did it show. She was so nervous the whole time. Mama-san was trying to help, moving her chair closer to me, telling her to sip her lady drink slower (which was about 90% coke and 10% whiskey), telling her how barfines work and overall teaching her the rules of the trade. After a while I was able to get her comfortable enough to come out with me. Mama was so nervous that she offered to replace her for free if I wasn't satisfied. The girl and I negotiate a barfine. She asks for 4000, I counter with 3000 and she agrees. 1000 of which would be paid by her to the bar when she came back. We leave and I take her to Wild Herbs as I am hungry and I wanted her to feel a bit more comfortable. She is a small girl so she didn't eat much and so the marginal cost of taking her out was effectively just an additional can of coca cola (80 pesos). She was, however, absolutely delighted by the food as she had never been to such a nice restaurant. Now for anyone who hasn't been to Subic, Wild Herbs is an average fast casual restaurant. The total bill was somewhere around 15 USD between the two of us. So it gives you an idea of where some of these province girls come from. After the restaurant we go to my hotel. We talk and mess around a bit more on the bed. The girl was adorable and giggled like a high school girl but she was authentic and we both had a good time. After a bit she tells me about her secret hentai collection on her phone and we watch some together which is a good bridge to some foreplay. We move on and I start DATY. She compliments me on my soft lips and for the first time the girl stops giggling as I eat her out. After a bit she reciprocates and we move to FS. I ask her if she has gotten STD tests done and she says no. So I decide to do some CFS instead. I am on PrEP but wanted to be careful as I suspect this girl never had an STD test done on her before. We do a couple of positions and I cum with K in cowgirl. She stays on top of me and we make out for a bit before she gets off. She gets dressed and we joke around some more. I decide to take her back to the bar as a good gesture and because I wanted to stop by a 7-11 on the way. I get her FB and come back home. I later get a couple of messages from her saying how much she enjoyed her time with me and to hang out at the beach tomorrow. I tell her sure and that I will message her. I have one more day planned in Subic so we'll see how it goes tomorrow and tomorrow night. I may spend the week here with the weekend in Angeles moving forward.
Observations (so far):
1. Mongers here are old. Way older than those in Angeles City. Not necessarily a bad thing since I am young and moderately attractive so I tend to stand out in a good way. Old mongers also tend to be more chill which adds to the laid back feeling of this place.
2. No Koreans here. Probably because Subic airport doesn't have commercial flights whereas Clark does. You need to take a fairly expensive taxi or a bus here which I don't think Koreans will ever do.
3. Girls here are more friendly. There isn't as much of a business attitude here as there is in Angeles. You can get some authenticity and passion out of Angeles girls but it takes way more effort as they (especially the prettier ones) are more hardened.
4. Girls here aren't as attractive as Angeles City but the margin isn't that big. The average girl in both is probably similar but there are certainly more lookers in Angeles. The top girls in Angeles are around an 8. 5 whereas here outside of a very lucky find you won't find anything higher than an 7. 5 in Subic.
5. Lady drinks are relatively cheap here. I paid 170 pesos per drink.
6. It is a buyers market here. More girls than guys and a lot of the guys here just hang out with the girls. No need to compete to barfine the only 2-3 hot girls in the bar.Sounds like you had a typical Subic experience. Not always to the top lookers, but often more normal and "wholesome". The girls at WetSpot and all bars around there typically get an HIV check at the start of employment and a swabtest every week or so. The swabtest doesn't really tell a whole lot other than if there's bacteria acting up, which you would probably realize as you approach for DATY. It's not everybody's cup of tea, but there are wonderful experiences to be had in Subic. Relaxing times. There's fun on the water and fun in the bars, but also it's easy to meet the more natural girls there. Either on DIA or the waitress at the local pizza shop looking for some excitement. And there are the inexperienced newbies from the province who are good and kind girls just trying to support their families in the provinces somewhere. Treat them nice.
Biggusdickus
04-04-23, 21:58
(...) If you want to take it down a notch, there are local bars in olongopo. And then of course there is calapandayan where they have both. (...)Really? I thought Olongapo died during Covid, and Calapandayan was dead long before Covid already. Would you mind sharing some more info? What are the high and low end bars in both places nowadays? Thanks a lot!
Transporter
04-05-23, 03:38
Really? I thought Olongapo died during Covid, and Calapandayan was dead long before Covid already. Would you mind sharing some more info? What are the high and low end bars in both places nowadays? Thanks a lot!Calapandayan was going up while barrio was headed down (big influx of korean and japanese spenders). Not going to lie it was scummy as it was for locals, but with all the asian investments in the subic area, there were some big spenders. However, I don't know what the current state is as I have not rolled through since covid. I could try and find some time this month to go take a look, but I am not sure I have the time as I have some other places I want to check out for the first time. I will see if I can dig up some pics.
Transporter
04-05-23, 03:41
Small local bar. No ac. Beers are warm, no ice. But if you can wait they will send someone out to buy a bag of ice.
Transporter
04-05-23, 03:43
This I pulled from a more upscale club in calapandayan, more like a gents club. Took her to the private room, and she did well, so I took her back also.
SergioAgu93
04-11-23, 12:06
Can anyone tell me the best hotel to stay at that is girl friendly in Subic Bay close to the action? Thanks in advance.Hi best hotel By a long way is Grand Central reef followed by Mangrove, never had a problem bring a friend back.
Transporter
04-11-23, 18:39
Central Park Reef Resort?. Yes very nice, and on the strip. The other is baloy beach, so will need a trike to get to the night action.
VictorHugo999
04-21-23, 06:30
Hi Mr T.
Thanks again for update. If I understand well, you were barfining fine specimens from the bars in Baretto and beach resorts?
Victor.
Central Park Reef Resort?. Yes very nice, and on the strip. The other is baloy beach, so will need a trike to get to the night action.
Transporter
04-22-23, 00:23
Hi Mr T. Thanks again for update. If I understand well, you were barfining fine specimens from the bars in Baretto and beach resorts?
Victor.I normally stay on baloy beach, but do pull from barrio baretto, calapandayan, KTV's in free trade zone, and some of the local clubs in olongapo city.
VictorHugo999
07-27-23, 03:56
Thanks again Mr T for your input.
Will be staying in Subic to enjoy my diving cum hobbying time.
Just wondering, what is your main thoughts regarding staying at beach front and staying at the town / city Olongapo?
Victor.
I normally stay on baloy beach, but do pull from barrio baretto, calapandayan, KTV's in free trade zone, and some of the local clubs in olongapo city.
VictorHugo999
07-27-23, 03:58
Just wondering, what was the damages for your outing? Either here or in PM? Thanks.
Victor,
This I pulled from a more upscale club in calapandayan, more like a gents club. Took her to the private room, and she did well, so I took her back also.
VictorHugo999
08-04-23, 10:22
Hi friends,
As Murphys law would have it, the recent Typhoon has "dashed to pieces" my dive trip to Subic.
Have quickly re-routed to Anilao, Batangas, to not waste my Manila flight tickets.
Any help and recommendations for hobbying, not diving, from fellow hobbyists here or PM will be greatly appreciated, by way for completed FR of course.
Thanks in advance, as there is not a post for Batangas LOL.
Victor.
MrPalmerAcc
10-04-23, 05:14
Hi friends,
As Murphys law would have it, the recent Typhoon has "dashed to pieces" my dive trip to Subic.
Have quickly re-routed to Anilao, Batangas, to not waste my Manila flight tickets.
Any help and recommendations for hobbying, not diving, from fellow hobbyists here or PM will be greatly appreciated, by way for completed FR of course.
Thanks in advance, as there is not a post for Batangas LOL.
Victor.Go to Sabang in Puerto Galera. Great diving and hobbying.
Arrived yesterday. In general as people said, Subic is a developing small town with more than a dozen bars gathered across the street. Lots of constructions and dirts. Bars are smaller in size as compared with AC. Bar fine are up to your negotiation with the girl, and the girl will share with the bar. Maybe 2 k or something. Went to thumbstar. There are some lookers. Bar fine 4 k for ST and 5 k for LT. LD 300 plus. Mama and girls are even more aggressive than bars in Manila, let alone AC. Some of them do come from Manila, during pandemic. Overall I will put AC in front of Subic for now. AC is more developed and straight forward. Here hotel is good, food is good. Just it is not the lay back styled bar that I thought.
Arrived yesterday. In general as people said, Subic is a developing small town with more than a dozen bars gathered across the street. Lots of constructions and dirts. Bars are smaller in size as compared with AC. Bar fine are up to your negotiation with the girl, and the girl will share with the bar. Maybe 2 k or something. Went to thumbstar. There are some lookers. Bar fine 4 k for ST and 5 k for LT. LD 300 plus. Mama and girls are even more aggressive than bars in Manila, let alone AC. Some of them do come from Manila, during pandemic. Overall I will put AC in front of Subic for now. AC is more developed and straight forward. Here hotel is good, food is good. Just it is not the lay back styled bar that I thought.Thanks for the post.
Hopefully by end of January when I will be there. Thanks for any replies.
It has open. Quite fun.
Hopefully by end of January when I will be there. Thanks for any replies.
It has open. Quite fun.Good to know, TT. Is it the one by Treasure Island? Had my first and only fivesome there a few years back.
Hi the, The one I went to is at Arizona resort, not sure about the others. It opens from the afternoon. Hope you have fun there.
Good to know, TT. Is it the one by Treasure Island? Had my first and only fivesome there a few years back..
I usually head down to Sabang or over the Cebu to escape Manila. However I'll be staying in Subic Freeport Zone for work in a few months. I probably stayed there about 20 years ago and there was no need back then to head to the Olongapo bars as basically I was approached in the street or the hotel security guy helped me out. Wondering if it's still pretty much the same? Also there used to be a girly bar of sorts in the actual freeport zone back then. Wondering if anyone knows of any that are there today. Thanks!
I usually head down to Sabang or over the Cebu to escape Manila. However I'll be staying in Subic Freeport Zone for work in a few months. I probably stayed there about 20 years ago and there was no need back then to head to the Olongapo bars as basically I was approached in the street or the hotel security guy helped me out. Wondering if it's still pretty much the same? Also there used to be a girly bar of sorts in the actual freeport zone back then. Wondering if anyone knows of any that are there today. Thanks!I think the same security guy is still there. He might be retiring soon in a few years. The same streets are still there. Doubt much has changed in 20 years. Welcome back!
I think the same security guy is still there. He might be retiring soon in a few years. The same streets are still there. Doubt much has changed in 20 years. Welcome back!Thanks so much for that. I pretty much figured that would be the case. I'm currently at Bantayan Island which is beautiful, but hardly any action up here. Just didn't have time to head back down to Sabang this time around.
Hi the, The one I went to is at Arizona resort, not sure about the others. It opens from the afternoon. Hope you have fun there.
.Sure did, TT, thanks. Two girls from Arizona jacked me off under the table quite unexpectedly! The floating bar at TI (Kokomos) did not allow any such nefarious activity. Also got a double BJ on the strip at some little bar for cheap cheap. I love the Philippines!
Sure did, TT, thanks. Two girls from Arizona jacked me off under the table quite unexpectedly! The floating bar at TI (Kokomos) did not allow any such nefarious activity. Also got a double BJ on the strip at some little bar for cheap cheap. I love the Philippines!Amazing I'm definitely looking forward to checking that out in two weeks. Glad to see a little bit more action in the fourm. Any other particular bars or establishments you have enjoyed, My first trip to Subic and something I have been looking forward to for 6 years.
Amazing I'm definitely looking forward to checking that out in two weeks. Glad to see a little bit more action in the fourm. Any other particular bars or establishments you have enjoyed, My first trip to Subic and something I have been looking forward to for 6 years.YM, there are 10 -15 bars on the strip and I'm pretty sure they all have barfines. Good luck and report back. I have a regular that I bang there who is 18 yo fantastic body Cee Cup tits but I don't want to share.
YM, there are 10 -15 bars on the strip and I'm pretty sure they all have barfines. Good luck and report back. I have a regular that I bang there who is 18 yo fantastic body Cee Cup tits but I don't want to share.20 bars with girls you can barfine and about 12 more that you can make arrangements with the girl to meet outside of work.
YM, there are 10 -15 bars on the strip and I'm pretty sure they all have barfines. Good luck and report back. I have a regular that I bang there who is 18 yo fantastic body Cee Cup tits but I don't want to share.Ha ha fair enough sounds like there will be no shortage of options to choose from.
Expat American
02-18-24, 15:08
Hi friends,
As Murphys law would have it, the recent Typhoon has "dashed to pieces" my dive trip to Subic.
Have quickly re-routed to Anilao, Batangas, to not waste my Manila flight tickets.
Any help and recommendations for hobbying, not diving, from fellow hobbyists here or PM will be greatly appreciated, by way for completed FR of course.
Thanks in advance, as there is not a post for Batangas LOL..Never thought Subic was a great dive destination anyway. Poor visibility, lots of ship traffic, not much marine life and I don't love wreck diving. PG and Moalboal were much better.
Was in Barreto last week.
Diving:
I had 2 dives in the bay. The visibility of the sea was surprisingly great. It was much better than my usual dive sites in my home country and well exceeded my expectation. Also I was very satisfied with variety of the fish and other creatures that I saw during the 2 dives. I guess I was lucky because the other diver that I met told me that the water can be murky.
Bars:
I went to Wet Spot, Hot Zone, Green Room and Voodo. Wet spot and Green Room BF is 5000 (Pesos) with LD 185. Voodo is 4000 but the LD is 300. The girl from Voodo is a good companion because she kept the conversation going. She even offered to stay with me the following day. I did not do it because I had plans for diving and not really wanted her to stick around in my room by herself. So I sent her home after breakfast. The other girl from Wet Spot was not good in making conversations so I sent her home just after one session.
Not many Koreans as far as I can see. Actually I seemed to be the very few (sometimes the only) Asian customers in these bars when I was there. I was there for only 2 evenings so this probably does not reflect much. I asked and the girls said there were more Japanese than Koreans. The truth is that I don't see as many Korean Shop Signs as I saw in Angeles.
2 of the 3 girls I had are from Manila (according to themselves) so I guess these ladies do not like doing business near their hometown.
Green Room has a Friday evening lucky draw event. The customers get to use their lips to take out a folded paper between the boobs of the girls. I enjoyed watching and doing this. It was quite fun.
Pussycat123
02-29-24, 10:15
20 bars with girls you can barfine and about 12 more that you can make arrangements with the girl to meet outside of work.From memory of last years trip:
Whiskey Girl.
Queen Vic.
Rosies Tavern.
Thumbstar.
Lux.
The Maze: WetSpot, Alaska, Oficina, Green Room. One or two others?
Hot Zone.
Voodoo.
I think I'm missing a few but I can only recall ten.
They have a dance show on Fridays called the SOB which some enjoy but you pay around 900 pesos and get a few free drinks. It also means most of the bars are closed while the show is going on so you can't barfine. The SOB is really used to promote the Maze group of bars.
Also, most bars are closed in the daytime and on Mondays so BB can be pretty dead compared to AC which is almost 24-7. The barfine is 4-5 k mostly which is the same as AC. I also found it much harder to get LT in BB because most of the girls are local and want to go home. There is a beach tho, which is nice.
Also, most bars are closed in the daytime and on Mondays so BB can be pretty dead compared to AC which is almost 24-7. The barfine is 4-5 k mostly which is the same as AC. I also found it much harder to get LT in BB because most of the girls are local and want to go home. There is a beach tho, which is nice.Subic has an active online scene for daytime hookups.
I also found it pretty easy to set up a perfect storm of girls who would visit during the day then go home to their commitments at night combined with girls who had a job during the day but would spend the night.
It was a good combination as it gave variety and, if I did just the latter, then I would have some peace, quiet and time to myself during the day.
I'd agree, it was hard to find an all nighter barfine.
Enjoy. G.
I'm in Subic for the next 4 days, anyone in town want to hang?
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