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[WestCoast1]

But I have around 10 girls who all want to come in 2-3 days. I do not know what to do. I'm afraid of ruining everything. Such a thing had never happened to me. I have clear ideas, indeed, very clear. I came to Leyte island to get some GF experence. It seems that I have succeeded, but unfortunately I am afraid of ruining everything in a few days, because they all piled up together in 2-3 days.Jones! Its been 10 days. Your last post indicates you were on the verge of a naughty breakthru. DD remains transfixed (if only my Johnson could remain that way). Did you ruin everything? Did you vaxx anyone? Someone small, and brown?

[JonesLover]

Jones! Its been 10 days. Your last post indicates you were on the verge of a naughty breakthru. DD remains transfixed (if only my Johnson could remain that way). Did you ruin everything? Did you vaxx anyone? Someone small, and brown?A lot of girls are writing to me and if I don't answer, they keep writing. I'm not rude because I don't answer, it's because I'm with a GF. A beautiful girl that I could choose from many girls. She is 22 years old and I have never in my life touched boobs so hard as stone. They stand straight forward like pinstripes. In the beginning she was very shy and now she has turned out to be a real poeca. Her father never lets her leave the house, so she made up her mind to go and see her sister, and so she'll stay with me for a week.

When she gets home, I've got another one ready right away. At the beginning I had to work a lot and I was anxious about not finding anyone. But now I have too many.

[AsianPursuits]

This trip has been good to me with applying the standard MO that has been described in these pages so many times.

Tonight however I think I just needed a break. Check that has popped up on my (fake) Facebook profile. I chatted her over a couple of days and tod her I was arriving her place later in the week. Meanwhile I was already in her town and fucking my way through the top of the Tinder hits. Even here it's possible to have new hits at 5 pm and meeting for dinner and sex later.

Well scheduled meetup for 6. Even at 5:30 earlier than she needed to be she was on her way by trike.

She arrived and gave me a brief hug. Up to the room she sat on the bed and then announced she was hungry let's go out for food. I know that if hunger is in play then nothing happens, so I agreed and we headed out on the bike. I took her past a few places which were popular with Filipino but they were not for her. It was obvious she had a place in mind but she wouldn't say, just giving me some rather late directions. SO communication was not a strong suit. Pleasant but hard work conversation. This wasn't going well.

Back in the room, over time I killed the lights, killed the wifi, got her into bed not before which she had put ON an extra coat to go to bed. I had a sunk cost so I went for a good night kiss to see if that would get anything underway. Zero. I said she should leave and in a spiteful way let her catch the multiple trikes home. Hopefully that might save a future monger from her.

Back in the room I sent a random message to my earlier Plan be that I had burned off when Plan A had confirmed her arrival. Plan be was still alive. Does indicate the scarcity of foreigners here. Plan be now included a friend whom would be tagging along for drinks. How bad can this be. So my girl was OK, average looks but Plan be's friend was super cute and finely proportioned. The girls liked the beer and a rhum each but in the end had a workplace curfew and triked home with delivering me a promise. It would have been so much easier one-on-one but the friend had to be considered.

Resigned back the room, had a random Tinder hit within a few kms. Some good banter which just petered out with a vague future promise.

Time for a rest day. Might uproot and move town. Maybe I have taken all the low hanging fruits from this place.

[WestCoast1]

From the more recent Westy files. During mid-pandemic, small provincial cuteness was busy making another. . . Small provincial cuteness. A few weeks later she dropped a healthy baby girl.

[WestCoast1]

Not sure if I posted this before. This took place several years ago. Something happened recently that reminded me of this event. A re-post if I posted it previously.

The front story. The first several months of lockdown in the province was pretty harsh. Everything closed, transportation was nearly non-existent, my local honies were afraid to leave their houses, and such. Not much happening. Then things lightened up. One of my regulars (short, age 24) started showing up and spending a good deal of time with me (the others were afraid to go outside their compounds). The regular started bringing a friend to my place (tall, age 29). The friend did not become a playmate, just friends. The girls would spend the entire day at my condo, enjoying the wifi and aircon, YT on the big screen TV, and of course Jolliebee chicken / rice. Over the course of several months, the two girls were probably at my place from 12-24 hours about twice a week. They routinely cooked and cleaned, or we ordered Food Panda or Grab food, or such, and we watched a lot of telenovelas (Halik, yuck). The friend, when spending the night, slept on the couch (or sometimes the floor, which she liked). All good.

The back story. After lockdown started, almost all the unattached foreigners high-tailed it back home. There were only a few foreingers left in my residence after a few months. We congregated in the lobby in the morning, as there was always a coffee pot going for guests. I struck up conversation a few times in the lobby with another foreigner. I remember him as tall, lean, always dressed well, dazling eyes, charming, and early 70's. I began looking forward to chatting with him in the lobby. He had come to the province to get away from his NCR pinay wife, which he said he did sometimes. He did not expect to get caught in a lockdown situation where he could not get back on an airplane or ferry.

Back to the front story. One day my regular and I went to the lobby to escort the inbound friend into the building. In the lobby at the elevator the three of us stepped inside, and before the elevator door closed the foreigner stepped into the elevator on one side, facing me on the other side. We exchanged pleasantries. The elevator stopped and he got off on his floor. As the doors closed and the machine continued up to my floor, both girls gushed and broke out laughing, kibbitzing, chica-chica, slapping at each other with their hands. Off the elevator and in the hallway they could barely stand up, laughing so hard. Ladies, WHAT has brought you to such joy, that does not involve my willy? Is my zipper down *again*? The friend barely composed herself and gushed: "I want to sex with him!" Bajesus ladies lets step into my unit first.

Once inside: Did I hear you correctly? The foreigner in the elevator? The friend: "Yes I want to f*ck him!" What! What! Have you seen him before? Do you know him? "No but I love his eyes. I seen his eyes!" Oh jeez. "There is more hahaha". What? My girl: "I want to f*ck him also". Both girls burst into peels of laughter. They fell on the bed laughing. Wait, you BOTH want to f*ck him? "Yes did you see him? Sooooo pogi he is". The friend: "I will have his baby!" This laughter and banter continued for several minutes. So, ladies, after just 30 seconds in an elevator with him, you want to have his baby?. Is that right? My girl: "I don't want to have his baby. But f*ck him yes". The friend: "Hahaha f*ck him and f*ck him and have his baby!" That's all it takes? Pretty eyes? Ladies he is over SEVENTY. "Foreigner guy also". So, pretty eyes and white skin and you melt down into one big pussy and womb? "Haha yes!" More peels of laughter.

OK, so I should tell him that you (the friend) will like to meet? A coffee and then back to his unit? "Yes!" Um, what of your boyfriend? Don't you have a boyfie? "We break. No sex until now. I was not seryoso to my boyfriend". But you are serious to f*cking a COMPLETE STRANGER? "Haaaa mucho gusto!" Check.

The next day I didn't see the foreigner, he missed morning lobby coffee. Also didn't see him in the lobby at all during the daytime. A few days later I was at the concierge desk for something and asked if they'd seen the him. "Then he left. Moved away. A few days ago. We got him a taxi". Hmmm, ok. How dare he not stick around long enough to have my pinay friend use him to f*ck herself preggers.

And with that, the foreigner was later probably stuck with his asawa again, and the friend didn't get a Phil / white baby. Who would have known that white skin and blue eyes would make pinay go weak in the knees. If my vaxxing clinic weren't going great guns, I might need to shed a KG or two, and get some of those fake blue contact lenses. . .

[Dion Cassius]

I will be in Boracay next week, would anyone of you like to share some information or tips?

[WestCoast1]

Good vaxxin' in the province recently fellas. The road less traveled.

[Errol Flynn]

I have booked my flights and am now booking hotels (Penthouse in Angeles City and Garden City in Makati so far). Sabang is proving a bit of a challenge, I want casual but clean, near the beach and the "action". Price isn't a big deal, anything under $100 a night is okay (if nice) but I'm really not looking for fancy and don't mind saving money.

On the surface Big Apple Dive Resort looks great but reports both here and other places suggest that the management's been going down hill for a number of years now. And one report mentioned that there are no safes and he had $400 stolen (he assumed by housekeeping). That's a no go for me. Papa Fred's looks interesting, but they're sold out on the big sites and when I went to their website (from the link on their Facebook page) it installed Malware on my computer. BEWARE. Capt'and Greg's? Good reviews, a bit shabby looking, but I like the location. Only thing is they don't seem to have a pool and I'd really like a pool. Atlantis Dive Resort looks nice but too family oriented for a punter like me. Montani Resort looks like a possibility. Too far? Girl friendly?

Any thoughts greatly appreciated. I will write reports after my trip. Promise.

[GreenBud]

Any thoughts greatly appreciated. I will write reports after my trip. Promise.I would recommend Dream Hotel. It's on girlie bar alley. It has a room safe. Around $50 a night. Newer hotel on top of that new go-go bar. Comfortable beds. Mountainside rooms are less expensive and quiet. Beachview rooms are more expensive, with a balcony, but it gets noisy at night time. This hotel has no pool. But it does have a rooftop bar / restaurant with a pool table.

If you want a pool, Angelyn's Dive Resort is ok. Pool is small, but nice, right on the beach. Hotel is located on girlie bar alley. Prices are reasonable. But the rooms are basic, just ok, not plush.

These hotels are listed on Agoda.

[Errol Flynn]

I would recommend Dream Hotel. It's on girlie bar alley. It has a room safe. Around $50 a night. Newer hotel on top of that new go-go bar. Comfortable beds. Thanks so much. I saw Dream Hotel on Agoda (they seem to be pushing it) but didn't know anything about it. All sounds good except I'd like a pool. Angelyn's has a pool but some of the reviews are less than glowing. Guess I have to decide.

[Goferring]

I have booked my flights and am now booking hotels (Penthouse in Angeles City and Garden City in Makati so far)..Given the number of options in Sabang and that you are undecided, I would just book a room for 2 nights then extend / move once you have arrived and seen everything in person. Many hotels really suffered during Covid so old reviews may be totally worthless. Remember that hotels and rooms in Big and Little LaLaguna, while not on blow row, are still only a couple of minutes walk away and much quieter.

The Big Apple is a dump but has character if you are looking for being close to the bars, access to freelancers, a big pool, good food and an accommodating attitude to err activities on site. The pool is often used for a lot more than dive training at 3 am. I never worried about security after taking the most basic precautions.

El Galleon is one of the more upmarket places, though it is starting to show its age in some areas. A nice pool, excellent food and a very professional dive centre. Get a room at pool level. Walking up the hill 20 times a day is a killer.

As I said, no one insists that you must book a room for your whole stay.

Enjoy. G.

[NewImage]

I have booked my flights and am now booking hotels (Penthouse in Angeles City and Garden City in Makati so far). Sabang is proving a bit of a challenge, I want casual but clean, near the beach and the "action". Price isn't a big deal, anything under $100 a night is okay (if nice) but I'm really not looking for fancy and don't mind saving money.
On the surface Big Apple Dive Resort looks great but reports both here and other places suggest that the management's been going down hill for a number of years now. And one report mentioned that there are no safes and he had $400 stolen (he assumed by housekeeping). That's a no go for me. Papa Fred's looks interesting, but they're sold out on the big sites and when I went to their website (from the link on their Facebook page) it installed Malware on my computer. BEWARE. Capt'and Greg's? Good reviews, a bit shabby looking, but I like the location. Only thing is they don't seem to have a pool and I'd really like a pool. Atlantis Dive Resort looks nice but too family oriented for a punter like me. Montani Resort looks like a possibility. Too far? Girl friendly?
Any thoughts greatly appreciated. I will write reports after my trip. Promise.Sabang went off my Phil list pre COVID. Prices are ridiculous and competing with one week Korean millionairres is a contest you are not going to win.

Re location everywhere is close. Meaning less than 5 min walk anywhere. Montani is good for accom & Jack Daniels for food. Esp ribs. To die fo, worth the walk up the short hill. .

Big Apple. Yeah a dump but straegically located and food is passable.

Best bar. CoCo Lips.

Also bit of a hassle getting there.

Agree with Gof- book room for 2 days hunt around- also walk in rates prob cheaper.

[Errol Flynn]

I took the advice and booked Montani Resort for the first two nights. Then we'll see.

This is my first trip to the PI and believe me I was nearly scared away by all the talk of the Koreans. I guess time will tell. I'm hoping that after ten days in AC and Manila I'll be ready to wind down a bit in Sabang anyway. But again, we shall see.

[Goferring]

This is my first trip to the PI and believe me I was nearly scared away by all the talk of the Koreans. I guess time will tell. Don't worry about the Koreans too much. The girls that chase them are often the top of the top looks-wise but they are truely damaged goods after being consistently over paid for poor performance. You don't want them any way and there are plenty of others to choose from.

The one thing Sabang is famous for is that the Korean guys will arrive and literally empty out a bar 5 minutes after opening. Go early and if you see someone you like, don't procrastinate or she will be gone later. It's perfectly ok to pay a barfine, say that you will pick her up later and continue the bar crawl.

Enjoy. G.

[JonesLover]

Hi, I would like to visit General Santos in a few months. Has anyone been there and can you tell me anything?

I'm not looking for bars or discos, I'm just looking to rest in a nice rented apartment with some pretty regular girls that I'll get to know on social networks and get some GF experiences.

I would like to ask 2 questions:

Is GenSan a bit dangerous like in past years?

Is it easy to fuck some regular girl or is it more complicated than other Filipino places like Davao?

Thanks for some info.

[Nightrider1]

Hi, I would like to visit General Santos in a few months. Has anyone been there and can you tell me anything?

I'm not looking for bars or discos, I'm just looking to rest in a nice rented apartment with some pretty regular girls that I'll get to know on social networks and get some GF experiences.

I would like to ask 2 questions:

Is GenSan a bit dangerous like in past years?

Is it easy to fuck some regular girl or is it more complicated than other Filipino places like Davao?

Thanks for some info.I had a g / f there in Gen san for a few years so I went there often, The Plaza is nice for walking and Tuna Park is ok as well. Swimming is nice at Gen San View and there is a nice beach in Sarangani.

They have some good malls as well. 3 different ones. Taxies are not available so be prepared to ride Trikes or jeepneys. I never felt threatened while I was there but my g / f said we will never go to the province areas, so best to stay in town. Hope that helps.

[JonesLover]

They have some good malls as well. 3 different ones. Taxies are not available so be prepared to ride Trikes or jeepneys. I never felt threatened while I was there but my g / f said we will never go to the province areas, so best to stay in town. Hope that helps.Thank you for your interesting reply. Could you suggest a good area near a mall (walking distance)? I'd like to rent an apartment there. Thank you again.

[Nightrider1]

Thank you for your interesting reply. Could you suggest a good area near a mall (walking distance)? I'd like to rent an apartment there. Thank you again.I always stayed at the nice hotel across from the Plaza park. Can't recall the name now. Its close to the Catholic church. Has a free western breakfast that's tasty. Not the cheapest hotel in gen san upscale and clean and worth it.

[JonesLover]

I always stayed at the nice hotel across from the Plaza park. Can't recall the name now. Its close to the Catholic church. Has a free western breakfast that's tasty. Not the cheapest hotel in gen san upscale and clean and worth it.Sorry, I don't need a hotel. I never book a hotel. I need to know a good area near a Supermarket. Close to Plaza park is there a Supermarket?

[GuyReynolds]

Did you stay in the area, Carlos Danger, or in downtown Bacolod. It appears that Goldenfield is about 3 km from downtown. Is it relatively easy to move from Goldenfield to downtown hotels or would you recommend staying in Goldenfield?Sorry for the delay in answering, haven't been there yet but planning a trip there this year. Wanted to get some info to make things easier and not waste time trying to figure stuff out once there.

[Gajith]

Sabang went off my Phil list pre COVID. Prices are ridiculous and competing with one week Korean millionairres is a contest you are not going to win.

Re location everywhere is close. Meaning less than 5 min walk anywhere. Montani is good for accom & Jack Daniels for food. Esp ribs. To die fo, worth the walk up the short hill. .

Big Apple. Yeah a dump but straegically located and food is passable.

Best bar. CoCo Lips.

Also bit of a hassle getting there.

Agree with Gof- book room for 2 days hunt around- also walk in rates prob cheaper.I am in Sabang, met some pimp boys and the lowest price offered is 2500 pesos. I told him, I am paying 2500 pesos in Dubai for nice looking pinays for 1 hours 2 shot and I and used to get availability report every weekend. Then why should I pay same in the Philippines?

[Goferring]

I am in Sabang, met some pimp boys and the lowest price offered is 2500 pesos. I told him, I am paying 2500 pesos in Dubai for nice looking pinays for 1 hours 2 shot and I and used to get availability report every weekend. Then why should I pay same in the Philippines?Why are you dealing with pimps? There are bargirls walking the street all day and most are available for some overtime. The best vantage point is a stool overlooking the pathway at BigApple.

Enjoy. G.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Why are you dealing with pimps? There are bargirls walking the street all day and most are available for some overtime. The best vantage point is a stool overlooking the pathway at BigApple.

Enjoy. G.Agreed. Philippines is probably the last place on Earth where you'd need to use the services of a pimp.

[Pickley]

I am in Sabang, met some pimp boys and the lowest price offered is 2500 pesos. I told him, I am paying 2500 pesos in Dubai for nice looking pinays for 1 hours 2 shot and I and used to get availability report every weekend. Then why should I pay same in the Philippines?Is it really that cheap in Dubai? I always had the impression Dubai was expensive for everything.

[Sam 14]

. <Snip> I never felt threatened while I was there but my g / f said we will never go to the province areas, so best to stay in town. Hope that helps.Gensan is not a dangerous place, and I've been to a lot of the provinces outside of there including Glan, and way up in the mountains around Lake Sebu. Locals, like your girlfriend tend to exaggerator danger all over the Philippines I've noticed. In Davao they'll tell you don't go down to the Boulevard because it's too dangerous. But I think there's more petty crime like theft. I remember getting something stolen but I don't remember what it was. And you'll see the tricycles parked overnight are inside bamboo cages. That's the only place I've seen that.

You're right about the malls, they are clustered in one small area, and that's the center of the universe. But I think there's around five altogether, maybe six.

You don't really see swarms of hot girls but there are some scattered around. You'll get allot more looks from them than you will in Davao. People are super friendly, you still get a lot of hey Joe. There is an occasional foreigner but not many. That being said, hence the food sucks. What restaurants?

And that also means there aren't apartments and condos like you see in Davao. You're not going to see Avida Towers, Magallanes Residence and places like that. It's pretty much a Filipino city for Filipinos. But it's a good place imo, and yes, you can get in the water. It's not a stunning white sand beach, but there's sand and you can get wet. Better than Davao beach anyway. Oh yeah, and it's generally warmer if you like that. It can get hot.

[Mr Hawaii]

Hi, I would like to visit General Santos in a few months. Has anyone been there and can you tell me anything?

I'm not looking for bars or discos, I'm just looking to rest in a nice rented apartment with some pretty regular girls that I'll get to know on social networks and get some GF experiences.

I would like to ask 2 questions:

Is GenSan a bit dangerous like in past years?

Is it easy to fuck some regular girl or is it more complicated than other Filipino places like Davao?

Thanks for some info.Just returned from P. I. Spent 4 nights in GenSan. If this is your first time, I recommend the Greenleaf Hotel. 5 star. A little expensive, but walk across the street and you are in SM mall. Plenty of "fine dining" mall food, shopping, movies, etc. Get with a local girl and take a trike to Robinson's, which has a hotel, the Summit, across the street from the store, and KCC mall, which is the locals favorite. Book the Greenleaf online, or call them to make reservations. Lorraine works the check-in and is very friendly. They have a good breakfast w / most rooms, a pool, and inhouse massage and a few exercise machines. Just check the website.

[MongerHunger]

Some people say that Boracay is a place where you take girls and many do but I say "why take sand to the beach?" I recently traveled to Boracay solo (May 2023). There are plenty of available girls there along the beach heading up towards Station 2. Kind of reminds me of a miniature Beach Road like Pattaya. They will approach you if you are walking along or in a group of guys. The action starts around Nigi Nigi Nu Noos. Some girls are sitting alone at the bar and some outside along the beach. It's best to go out around 10 pm. One shorty at the bar with a butterfly tattoo on her chest was quoting outrageous rates. She was cute but not worth that. She was at the bar chatting up guys every night that I went there. Other pickup spots are Exit, Epic Manila, OmBar, Galaxy Bar, MEGA, V Hub and Summer Place. Plenty of available women. They can be negotiated down to 2000 PHP.

[KumuMan]

Some people say that Boracay is a place where you take girls and many do but I say "why take sand to the beach?" I recently traveled to Boracay solo (May 2023). There are plenty of available girls there along the beach heading up towards Station 2. Kind of reminds me of a miniature Beach Road like Pattaya. They will approach you if you are walking along or in a group of guys. The action starts around Nigi Nigi Nu Noos. Some girls are sitting alone at the bar and some outside along the beach. It's best to go out around 10 pm. One shorty at the bar with a butterfly tattoo on her chest was quoting outrageous rates. She was cute but not worth that. She was at the bar chatting up guys every night that I went there. Other pickup spots are Exit, Epic Manila, OmBar, Galaxy Bar, MEGA, V Hub and Summer Place. Plenty of available women. They can be negotiated down to 2000 PHP.Ac thread mentions quality of girls now, Pattaya thread says its low season so only old and fugly. How was the quality there in Boracay.

[Dg8787]

Some people say that Boracay is a place where you take girls and many do but I say "why take sand to the beach?" I recently traveled to Boracay solo (May 2023). There are plenty of available girls there along the beach heading up towards Station 2. Kind of reminds me of a miniature Beach Road like Pattaya. They will approach you if you are walking along or in a group of guys. The action starts around Nigi Nigi Nu Noos. Some girls are sitting alone at the bar and some outside along the beach. It's best to go out around 10 pm. One shorty at the bar with a butterfly tattoo on her chest was quoting outrageous rates. She was cute but not worth that. She was at the bar chatting up guys every night that I went there. Other pickup spots are Exit, Epic Manila, OmBar, Galaxy Bar, MEGA, V Hub and Summer Place. Plenty of available women. They can be negotiated down to 2000 PHP.Great report and locations of pick up spots.

I personally still like to bring my own proven performers as I only stay 3 days. I like to relax and enjoy 3 sessions a day without going out on the hunt and perhaps getting disappointed. The ones I bring have been known and proven to me. I generally give them 5 k a day.

To each their own.

[MongerHunger]

Great report and locations of pick up spots.

I personally still like to bring my own proven performers as I only stay 3 days. I like to relax and enjoy 3 sessions a day without going out on the hunt and perhaps getting disappointed. The ones I bring have been known and proven to me. I generally give them 5 k a day.

To each their own.There are plenty of places around the Phils where you can bring the same paid girl to be stuck with but Boracay was not one of those places for me. I enjoy the hunt and variety. But hey, to each their own.

[MongerHunger]

Ac thread mentions quality of girls now, Pattaya thread says its low season so only old and fugly. How was the quality there in Boracay.I was in Pattaya recently just before my trip to the Phils. If you believe that there are only fat and ugly chick's in Pattaya right now because of a low season then you have never been to Pattaya regardless of the time of year. The fun doesn't stop in Pattaya, ever!

[MongerHunger]

How was the quality there in Boracay.
The talent in Boracay is ok. A lot of the descent girls will quote high rates. Most of them hang around the bars or just outside of the hotspots. Most of the average girls hang along the beach and they will pop out and approach you. They can also be aggressive with their marketing campaign. Most of the guys in Boracay bring a girl with them but if you are not with a girl you can be approached or called out to. P4P is available in Boracay. By the way, the beaches there are absolutely stunning.

[KumuMan]

I was in Pattaya recently just before my trip to the Phils. If you believe that there are only fat and ugly chick's in Pattaya right now because of a low season then you have never been to Pattaya regardless of the time of year. The fun doesn't stop in Pattaya, ever!WTF read the thread.

[LoveItHere]

They can also be aggressive with their marketing campaign. The majority of the aggressive ones are lady boys. If they are actually girls and aggressive it usually means she is going to give horrible service so you pay and kick her out for doing nothing or she is looking to steal from you. This is usually the case no matter what country you are in.

[MongerHunger]

If they are actually girls and aggressive it usually means she is going to give horrible service so you pay and kick her out for doing nothing or she is looking to steal from you. This is usually the case no matter what country you are in.Yes and that's why we share information to let others know about the environment. Aggressiveness is a sign of desperation and bad service. That's an international problem. LadyBoys are prevalent throughout Southeast Asia and Latin America. Spotting and finding out is a no brainer. Have some due diligence and don't be quick to take something before you're sure. It should be common knowledge that one might encounter / see a LadyBoy or two or more.

[MongerHunger]

WTF read the thread.Have you read that thread lately? LOL Pattaya will always have good younger options anytime of the year. There is no old fugly season. Some guys don't know to move around Pattaya to get what they want. There's countless options of all taste. Best thing to do is see for yourself.

[HeyPlzHeplMe]

Any escort options in Panglao / Bohol?

[WestCoast1]

HeyPlzHeplMe has a whopping 8 posts over the past 2 years, almost all questions like this one, and only one mildly descriptive field report. Feed the troll if you like, but he has no intention of providing any feedback later.

Any escort options in Panglao / Bohol?

Does anyone know if Cindy from bangkokgoldenescorts still works anywhere?

What exactly are the best options for outcall to your hotel? From looking through this thread, it looks like Smooci and maybe Thaifriendly are the main options?

Sorry of this isn't the place to ask, but is it still a good time to head to Bangkok & Pattaya for mongering during the rainy season this month?

Is Mileroticos the best place for girls in Oaxaca? If anyone has any Oaxaca girls on Twitter point them my way because I haven't found any yet.

Do people usually use their personal phone numbers for WhatsApp or to contact girls? Or do you guys generally use a second number?

[VictorHugo999]

Hi Mr West.

Its amazing how you are able to keep track of all this traffic and provide info and umderstated superlatives.

I'm any case, bravo!

Victor.


HeyPlzHeplMe has a whopping 8 posts over the past 2 years, almost all questions like this one, and only one mildly descriptive field report. Feed the troll if you like, but he has no intention of providing any feedback later.

Any escort options in Panglao / Bohol?

Does anyone know if Cindy from bangkokgoldenescorts still works anywhere?

What exactly are the best options for outcall to your hotel? From looking through this thread, it looks like Smooci and maybe Thaifriendly are the main options?

Sorry of this isn't the place to ask, but is it still a good time to head to Bangkok & Pattaya for mongering during the rainy season this month?

Is Mileroticos the best place for girls in Oaxaca? If anyone has any Oaxaca girls on Twitter point them my way because I haven't found any yet.

Do people usually use their personal phone numbers for WhatsApp or to contact girls? Or do you guys generally use a second number?

[WestCoast1]

Hi Mr West.

Its amazing how you are able to keep track of all this traffic and provide info and umderstated superlatives.

I'm any case, bravo!

Victor.Click on HeyPlzHeplMe's (or anyone's) username. Click on 'View Forum Posts'. Get an instant look at the first few lines of all of his posts going backwards in chronological order. Takes 30 seconds. It takes longer to write / type out a reply to answer his question. Also the username itself (HeyPlzHeplMe) seems geared towards asking infantile questions, designed to waste our time, questions that might be better off Googled.

[SamPeter71]

I will be goig to puerto princess on Sunday and will be travelling to el nido / coron in palawan area for next 10 days.

Anyone there during thsi time? Any pointers on where to find action and / or tips etc.

Thanks in advance.

[Kitty Doctor]

I had a fantasy about hooking up with a pregnant woman. I'm happy to say I was able to fulfill this fantasy.

After searching on FB for messages I kept exploring the links until I found a post by a 20-year-old woman who was pregnant. I contacted her on messenger and we set up a time to meet. We agreed to meet outside a local department store and then we went next door to an hourly motel.

When got our room we each took a quick shower. We started with some foreplay. Sadly she did not do any type of BJ. I knew this in advance and was fine with it because I simply wanted to experience sex with a pregnant woman. So, after the fore play on went the condom and she hopped on top. We also went into missionary positions.

She was about 8 months pregnant and she felt nice, wet, and tight. After I finished we relaxed for a while and then went for round two.

It was not my favorite experience overall. Still, I'm glad to have the experience.

Total cost of 4 k php.

[King Squared]

I was able to go back to Sabang for the first time since 2019. From Manila to Batangas, there's a bus every hour from the JAM Liner bus terminal in Buendia and the trip takes about 2 hours. From Batangas, you can take a RORO ferry for 428 php (2 hours) or a fast boat for about 600+ php (45 minutes). I recommend trying to time it so you can get a fast boat. The 3 companies were Galerian, Montengro, and Island Water. I was able to get a trike from Balatero to Sabang for 200 php but on the return I could only find a tuktuk for 250 php. Just a note on the return trip, try to go early in the morning or later in the afternoon. I took the 1:00 pm RORO and when I got to Batangas at 3:30 pm the bus wouldn't leave because there were so few passengers and we had to wait another 1. 5 hours (until 5 pm) for the next ferry to come in. It also seems like the Ceres Liner buses also stop in PITX (the new Paranque terminal), which adds more time to the journey.

Here are some bar that I saw (going east to west):

Sabang Disco. Went in at 7 pm and there were like 5-10 girls. 1 girl would dance on the stage at a time. Bar fine 4. 5 k.

Sabang Sky (the old Philippine Village Disco) - took a quick look. Saw a bunch of girls dancing on the stage in those shiny evening gowns.

District. Looked open but did not go in.

Boss Club. Went in at 7 pm and they had about 15 girls. None were dancing; they were all just sitting by stage. Bar fine 5 k.

Coco Lipz. Stopped by at 7 pm but only waitresses inside (looked like they were still setting up).

Sugarkiss. Did not look to be open.

Club Erotica. Did not go in.

I was very surprised about how empty it seemed especially compared to the pre-pandemic times. There weren't a lot of girls working. They told me they needed a license now so maybe that is it. But there were also not many other customers so maybe the girls moved on to do other things. For the hour between 7 pm and 8 pm, maybe like 5 groups of customers that could come in. Also if you did pay the barfine, the girl could not leave until 9 pm. This was not a problem because you can just come back at 9 pm and collect your girl. I guess this would help against the old problem where at 7 pm a bunch of girls would get barfined out and the bar would look empty. If met someone you wanted to go with again the next day, you could just give her the barfine and she would go with you whenever. There actually seems to be less runners now. In the past sometimes the girl would want to leave after the deed was done; that's fine by me (I sleep better alone). But this time all the girls would stay until morning.

Conclusion: The quality of the girls were OK. Didn't really see any knockouts but easy enough to find someone slim with a decent face and not old. There wasn't really much other competition so you really do have your pick.

[Goferring]

I was able to go back to Sabang for the first time since 2019.

Conclusion: The quality of the girls were OK. Didn't really see any knockouts but easy enough to find someone slim with a decent face and not old. There wasn't really much other competition so you really do have your pick.Everyone talkes about Angeles' fall from grace. However, I think Sabang has had an even greater fall. I can remember when it was quiet, off the well worn mongerring track and populated by repeat visitors and fun girls. 1+1 k got you a bubbly girl who would stay until after the 3rd dive for the day and then basically have to be told it was time to go.

Many many great memories from Sabang. I did go back once to try to relive things but unfortunately reality fell well short. I know many foreigner residents and working girls who have moved out to greener pastures.

[NukePasa]

Went to Puerto Galera and somewhat disappoointing Makati. Many Makati bars were rather empty and not too good quality. Plan be, Dimples and Lips were the only bars I did not turn away from the door. 3. 9 k + 5 k consistent asking price and all the drinks on top.

Sabang Beach was a very pleasant surprise. A massive new place called Quantum on the second floor of the girl bar alley reminded me of the best of Angeles 10+ years ago. Probably around 100 girls with quality far exceeding any bar in Makati. 4. 5 k barfine for ST / LT paid to the girl afterwards + tip. Policy is that the girl can only leave the bar at 9 pm (Quantum opens at 6:30) and the girl cannot leave together with the customer. Fair amount of Koreans but it was either the quantity of the girls vs customers (the place had more girls than customers in rainy season) or the new policy that made it quite pleasant to observe unlike before when Koreans barfined all the girls 1 minute after opening. Also, it worked nicely so that one could go in, find a girl and ask her to come to the hotel at 9 and leave. Quantum alternates with the bar downstairs, which used to exist ten years ago but has been renovated I. E. Just either one is open, but both have the same girls and the same staff. I cannot remember the drink prices but they too were far less than Makati. Most girls were rather passive and some clearly had Korean preference. Most but not all: With a small effort or mama-san support girls were very easy to get for an interview. Hats off to the German bloke who has set up this operation. Looking at the reports from Angeles this may well be the best that all of Philippines has to offer: a truly great place with half the price. Barfined multiple 8's and 9's.

Other bars were quite rough and somewhat empty. Coco Lips had a handful of girls with one looker who appeared extremely pissed off at life. Club Erotica had a fair number of girls, but the looker that I bought an expensive drink for took off before even finishing the drink so I left and never went there again. Other bars had few girls and really quite a variance in quality, but the girls came at you more with suggestions for threesome etc. I did not barfine anyone but from Quantum.

Sabang itself is also much nicer nowadays with the new beach boulevard. The only downside is that boat from Batangas arrives to Balatero port, which is like twenty minutes on a sidecar. Si-kat bus from Citystate Tower, Ermita, is still the way to travel, 1. 4 k one way. Private transfer (private boat&car) quoted at 8 k one way.

[Goferring]

Went to Puerto Galera and somewhat disappoointing Makati...

Sabang itself is also much nicer nowadays with the new beach boulevard. The only downside is that boat from Batangas arrives to Balatero port, which is like twenty minutes on a sidecar. Si-kat bus from Citystate Tower, Ermita, is still the way to travel, 1. 4 k one way. Private transfer (private boat&car) quoted at 8 k one way.Looks like I may have spoken too soon. It's great to read that you had a good time.

It's a shame the direct ferry's never restarted. Just an FYI, there were two seaplane operators that flew direct MNL to PG stopping in the bay between PG and Sabang. It escapes all the traffic and was priced less than the private car / boat option for a painless 30 minute flight. One company didn't survive C19 but I think Air Juan is still going. Certainly worth a Google for any prospective visitor.

Cheers. G.

[WestCoast1]

Get out there, to the provinces. Grab on to something important, don't let go.

So much opportunity. Get in there.

[VictorHugo999]

Hi Mr WC.

Thanks again for encouragement.

Looking forward to contributing after my upcoming dive trip. Too bad I will be skipping Negros and "headed" Subic.

Keep up the good work.

Victor.


Get out there, to the provinces. Grab on to something important, don't let go.

So much opportunity. Get in there.

[VictorHugo999]

Hi friends,

Am in Batangas for diving.

Started texting and checking on Tinder, Tan Tan, DIA.

Got zero returns.

Decided to just concentrate on diving and allow the passion of the ocean to diffuse other passions.

Shortened trip. Return to Manila.

Victor.

[Big Kahuna]

I was able to go back to Sabang for the first time since 2019. From Manila to Batangas, there's a bus every hour from the JAM Liner bus terminal in Buendia and the trip takes about 2 hours. From Batangas, you can take a RORO ferry for 428 php (2 hours) or a fast boat for about 600+ php (45 minutes). I recommend trying to time it so you can get a fast boat. The 3 companies were Galerian, Montengro, and Island Water. I was able to get a trike from Balatero to Sabang for 200 php but on the return I could only find a tuktuk for 250 php. Just a note on the return trip, try to go early in the morning or later in the afternoon. I took the 1:00 pm RORO and when I got to Batangas at 3:30 pm the bus wouldn't leave because there were so few passengers and we had to wait another 1. 5 hours (until 5 pm) for the next ferry to come in. It also seems like the Ceres Liner buses also stop in PITX (the new Paranque terminal), which adds more time to the journey.

Here are some bar that I saw (going east to west):

Sabang Disco. Went in at 7 pm and there were like 5-10 girls. 1 girl would dance on the stage at a time. Bar fine 4. 5 k.

Sabang Sky (the old Philippine Village Disco) - took a quick look. Saw a bunch of girls dancing on the stage in those shiny evening gowns.

District. Looked open but did not go in.

Boss Club. Went in at 7 pm and they had about 15 girls. None were dancing; they were all just sitting by stage. Bar fine 5 k.

Coco Lipz. Stopped by at 7 pm but only waitresses inside (looked like they were still setting up).

Sugarkiss. Did not look to be open.

Club Erotica. Did not go in.

I was very surprised about how empty it seemed especially compared to the pre-pandemic times. There weren't a lot of girls working. They told me they needed a license now so maybe that is it. But there were also not many other customers so maybe the girls moved on to do other things. For the hour between 7 pm and 8 pm, maybe like 5 groups of customers that could come in. Also if you did pay the barfine, the girl could not leave until 9 pm. This was not a problem because you can just come back at 9 pm and collect your girl. I guess this would help against the old problem where at 7 pm a bunch of girls would get barfined out and the bar would look empty. If met someone you wanted to go with again the next day, you could just give her the barfine and she would go with you whenever. There actually seems to be less runners now. In the past sometimes the girl would want to leave after the deed was done; that's fine by me (I sleep better alone). But this time all the girls would stay until morning.

Conclusion: The quality of the girls were OK. Didn't really see any knockouts but easy enough to find someone slim with a decent face and not old. There wasn't really much other competition so you really do have your pick.Just returned from Sabang and concur with your findings.

Korean customers dominated even more than AC.

Not much to do there besides diving and bar hopping. No beach at Sabang.

Disappointed in the quality of girls working there in the clubs really young as compared to AC however someones 10 is another man's 1.

White beach was very disappointing in the beach itself, many rocks on the beach and in the. Water. Recommend going to Boracay instead.

[WestCoast1]

Gents: Get in there and get some. Its random nekked picture day. Post one of your own and lets have more like this.

[GDreams]

Gents: Get in there and get some. Its random nekked picture day. Post one of your own and lets have more like this.OK here's a naked pic or 2.

[WestCoast1]

OK here's a naked pic or 2.Incredible find, GD. Great figure. One more for the (far flung) road.

[Achmmc]

Went to Puerto Galera and somewhat disappoointing Makati. Many Makati bars were rather empty and not too good quality. Plan be, Dimples and Lips were the only bars I did not turn away from the door. 3. 9 k + 5 k consistent asking price and all the drinks on top.

Sabang Beach was a very pleasant surprise. A massive new place called Quantum on the second floor of the girl bar alley reminded me of the best of Angeles 10+ years ago. Probably around 100 girls with quality far exceeding any bar in Makati. 4. 5 k barfine for ST / LT paid to the girl afterwards + tip. Policy is that the girl can only leave the bar at 9 pm (Quantum opens at 6:30) and the girl cannot leave together with the customer. Fair amount of Koreans but it was either the quantity of the girls vs customers (the place had more girls than customers in rainy season) or the new policy that made it quite pleasant to observe unlike before when Koreans barfined all the girls 1 minute after opening. Also, it worked nicely so that one could go in, find a girl and ask her to come to the hotel at 9 and leave. Quantum alternates with the bar downstairs, which used to exist ten years ago but has been renovated I. E. Just either one is open, but both have the same girls and the same staff. I cannot remember the drink prices but they too were far less than Makati. Most girls were rather passive and some clearly had Korean preference. Most but not all: With a small effort or mama-san support girls were very easy to get for an interview. Hats off to the German bloke who has set up this operation. Looking at the reports from Angeles this may well be the best that all of Philippines has to offer: a truly great place with half the price. Barfined multiple 8's and 9's.

Other bars were quite rough and somewhat empty. Coco Lips had a handful of girls with one looker who appeared extremely pissed off at life. Club Erotica had a fair number of girls, but the looker that I bought an expensive drink for took off before even finishing the drink so I left and never went there again. Other bars had few girls and really quite a variance in quality, but the girls came at you more with suggestions for threesome etc. I did not barfine anyone but from Quantum.

Sabang itself is also much nicer nowadays with the new beach boulevard. The only downside is that boat from Batangas arrives to Balatero port, which is like twenty minutes on a sidecar. Si-kat bus from Citystate Tower, Ermita, is still the way to travel, 1. 4 k one way. Private transfer (private boat&car) quoted at 8 k one way.Quantum sounds like a game changer to little ole Sabang. Alone (Quantum) would make a return visit worthwhile for me. I had scuba dive concentric visits 2016 and 2017 and liked having the bar girl option in the evenings. I certainly had some good finds, but the venues were not impressive and it took more effort and luck on any given night out than I was accustomed to (Pats and Bangkok spoil you). That there anything approaching 100 girls on site is a gold miine. Has anyone been there in the recent months? I don't remember what early / mid November weather is like but I could add that to an asian itinerary I am already on.

[Trvllvr58]

Stayed for 5 nights at Henann Palm Resort. Was told via email they are NOT girl friendly. But when I checked in, found the opposite was true. Since I had booked for 2 (just in case), I was told all I had to do was bring her to the front desk to collect her ID.

I was working 7 pm-3 am online to synch with my job in the USA. So I didn't have much time to explore the nightlife. Spent "lunch" breaks walking north on the beach walk and got approached every 50 yards! More often that not. Lady Boys. But plenty of girls too. Did not go into a club. So no info on what might be inside. Probably better quality?

But from Nigi Nigi's to Epic there are plenty of girls in the shadows. Got s few numbers for WhatsApp. Didn't use them. But did break down and grabbed 2 girls for 2 k each one night. But when I went to register they wanted me to pay another 1. 5 k to take 2nd girl to my room. This actually gave me an excuse to pick the cuter of the two and tell they other one "sorry"! (I actually gave her 1 k and she waited in the lobby for her friend.) Told my girl all I wanted was a BJ and to come in her mouth! She said "Oh no. I can't do that. I never do that! But of course she did. For an extract 1 k! And based on how much she gagged and washed her mouth out. I'm betting she was NOT a cum swallower after all!

Any way. The bottom line is there are plenty of girls to get your rocks off in Boracay! And that's with NO EFFORT beyond walking down the beach!

BTW. I probably wouldn't return to Boracay. IMO it's very overrated. But that's just me!

[WestCoast1]

Back on the provincial road. Taller, long-waisted statuesque critter, busts off her leash for some Westy time. Get in there, and give her a special part of you.

[JeremiahSurd]

Stayed for 5 nights at Henann Palm Resort. Was told via email they are NOT girl friendly. But when I checked in, found the opposite was true. Since I had booked for 2 (just in case), I was told all I had to do was bring her to the front desk to collect her ID.

I was working 7 pm-3 am online to synch with my job in the USA. So I didn't have much time to explore the nightlife. Spent "lunch" breaks walking north on the beach walk and got approached every 50 yards! More often that not. Lady Boys. But plenty of girls too. Did not go into a club. So no info on what might be inside. Probably better quality?

But from Nigi Nigi's to Epic there are plenty of girls in the shadows. Got s few numbers for WhatsApp. Didn't use them. But did break down and grabbed 2 girls for 2 k each one night. But when I went to register they wanted me to pay another 1. 5 k to take 2nd girl to my room. This actually gave me an excuse to pick the cuter of the two and tell they other one "sorry"! (I actually gave her 1 k and she waited in the lobby for her friend.) Told my girl all I wanted was a BJ and to come in her mouth! She said "Oh no. I can't do that. I never do that! But of course she did. For an extract 1 k! And based on how much she gagged and washed her mouth out. I'm betting she was NOT a cum swallower after all!

Any way. The bottom line is there are plenty of girls to get your rocks off in Boracay! And that's with NO EFFORT beyond walking down the beach!

BTW. I probably wouldn't return to Boracay. IMO it's very overrated. But that's just me!Hey this is a good input to me and thanks for sharing. I have been planning a trip to Boracay from Manila and was really undecided on whether I should try and get a companion from Manila to travel with me (getting that companion too is proving a bit difficult as I have been trying only through Tinder) - but basis this it seems like I should be able to get some traction directly at Boracay. Mine is a subscribed account and hence DM is open; in case you feel like helping a bud, please do share any of your recommendations there. Will be happy to reciprocate once I have traction here in the Ph as well. Or in case you are planning any of the other spots like Batangas, Cebu etc ping me and I would be happy to be the Wingman and share costs.

[Errol Flynn]

I'm in Cebu now. Posted in the 2022 Cebu thread but no action there. I'm pursuing some girls on S. A. But wondering if there are other suggestions? Bars / clubs? Currently staying at the Bayfront Hotel next to SM City Mall, but not sure it was the right choice. All input appreciated.

I'll post about some obscure other places tomorrow.

[Wicked Roger]

I'm in Cebu now. Posted in the 2022 Cebu thread but no action there. I'm pursuing some girls on S. A. But wondering if there are other suggestions? Bars / clubs? Currently staying at the Bayfront Hotel next to SM City Mall, but not sure it was the right choice. All input appreciated.

I'll post about some obscure other places tomorrow.Check your PMs and there is actin in Cebu and there is a separate thread for Cebu also.

[Don Roberts]

Check your PMs and there is actin in Cebu and there is a separate thread for Cebu also.I posted on the Cebu 2022 thread. When I tried the link to the separate Cebu area, it didn't work. I'm out in the far end of Mactan island.

2 hours travel time last time we left Ayala to come back to my place.

I went down to Mango. So sad compared to what was before (which was small compared to Angeles & Pattaya).

I visited Viking, had a good time but the selection was old tired and mediocre. It was right after a 3 day weekend & that may explain.

Girls can go online & get a better deal.

Bars as they were may be obsolete- like horse drawn buggies. One of many businesses crushed by the internet revolution- typewriters, the Music business etc.

I'll try to file a fuller report later when I get time.

I missed sending in $ for a membership before I left the USA so I can't PM.

[WestCoast1]

I posted on the Cebu 2022 thread. When I tried the link to the separate Cebu area, it didn't work. I'm out in the far end of Mactan island.

2 hours travel time last time we left Ayala to come back to my place.DR: If you don't mind my asking, why are you out in the far end of Mactan? Seems an odd location to monger, given its remoteness from the well-traveled goodfella areas.

[Don Roberts]

DR: If you don't mind my asking, why are you out in the far end of Mactan? Seems an odd location to monger, given its remoteness from the well-traveled goodfella areas.Thanks for asking-.

I've been coming to Cebu 18 or 19 years. 25 to Philippines. I have 2 kids here. I don't live with the moms.

We have a place out here in Mactan & also in Camotes in my daughters name (she's dual USA / Philippine citizen).

It used to be less congested out here in Mactan. I'm 15 minutes from the airport.

Camotes was a nice place for raising the kid.

Before covid I was pretty well set up- driver, housekeeper 4 or 5 Suzuki multicabs etc. Some nice relationships etc.

Driver is gone cars rusted out junk etc. Old girlfriends married, pregnant etc.

I've had a good life here but I really prefer California.

I'm really tired of dealing with the disfunction here.

I wish I'd upgraded to paid membership but got too rushed.

[Goferring]

I'm in Cebu now. Posted in the 2022 Cebu thread but no action there. I'm pursuing some girls on S. A. But wondering if there are other suggestions? Bars / clubs? Currently staying at the Bayfront Hotel next to SM City Mall, but not sure it was the right choice. All input appreciated.

I'll post about some obscure other places tomorrow.


I posted on the Cebu 2022 thread. When I tried the link to the separate Cebu area, it didn't work. I'm out in the far end of Mactan island.

2 hours travel time last time we left Ayala to come back to my place.


DR: If you don't mind my asking, why are you out in the far end of Mactan? Seems an odd location to monger, given its remoteness from the well-traveled goodfella areas.I'd agree. Describing Cebu as a "shithole" based only upon Mactan seems a little unfair. IT Park / Ayala may not be BGC but it's very comfortable there and appealing to the girls: lots of places to eat, drink and party and the Jeepney station is literally at the bottom of the Mall so very easy for the girls to find. No more trying to explain exactly which of 27 7/11's you want to meet her at in the 'burbs. For the guys, plenty of decent hotels and Airbnbs within walking distance.

I gave up on Cebu gogo bars years ago and never went back. I also haven't been to any of the mega clubs in town either but I have had some fun with a couple of the dancers and promos girls from them. No idea why but they all proved my hotness vs attitude theory completely wrong and were great performers.

I've always said the Cebu is the online capital of the Philippines. Everything available from part time students to stunning models. Seeking is for those prepared to throw money and caution to the wind for a short term stay. Pina Love, Filippine Cupid and even Tinder have girls with much more realistic expectations.

Enjoy. G.

[WestCoast1]

I'd agree. Describing Cebu as a "shithole" based only upon Mactan seems a little unfair. Ya don't do that. Only Go and myself can do that.


I'm really tired of dealing with the disfunction here.Phall in line, phella.


I wish I'd upgraded to paid membership but got too rushed.Its never too late.

[Don Roberts]

This is the link to the Cebu forum:

"Posts: 2691.

Link to Cebu Forum.

Greetings everyone,

I have created a seperate forum for Cebu in which all Forum Members are welcome to participate.

The Cebu forum is located at.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...ilippines-Cebu".

This seems incomplete; click on the link& I get:

"HTTP Status: 404 (not found)".

[Don Roberts]

Ya don't do that. Only Go and myself can do that.

Phall in line, phella.

Its never too late.Not sure how to subscribe from Cebu- can't use credit card.

I know zilch about bitcoin.

In USA I'd just put a $20 in an envelope & send it off- In fact somewhere in my messy pile of papers is an envelope with $20 & etc. Misplaced.

Can't do that with Philippine post office.

Regards to all.

Don are.

[WestCoast1]

Link to Cebu Forum.

Greetings everyone,

I have created a seperate forum for Cebu in which all Forum Members are welcome to participate.

The Cebu forum is located at.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...ilippines-Cebu".

This seems incomplete; click on the link& I get:

"HTTP Status: 404 (not found)".Having the same difficulty.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?773-The-Philippines-Cebu

See pic.

[Spitfire]

Having the same difficulty.


http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?773-The-Philippines-Cebu

See pic.The original post is over 10 years old so I'm guessing it's changed. The link to the Cebu forum being used most currently is.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4315-Cebu-2022

[CanoMonger]

A cutie from few years back.

[Goferring]

The original post is over 10 years old so I'm guessing it's changed. The link to the Cebu forum being used most currently is.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4315-Cebu-2022The The Philippines. Cebu is still there. It's not used a lot but there is a post from yesterday.

The link doesn't work for me either. However, the forum can be accessed manually by clicking on Forum, then Asia, then The Philippines. Cebu. It's directly below the main The Philippines forum.

The Cebu 2022 is a sub forum of the main The Philippines forum. It's actually a User blog at the bottom of the page.

All as clear as mud, I know, but there was a push years ago to peel out Cebu from the Philippines forum because it was so popular at the time.

Seems a bit wasteful and confusing now that Cebu doesn't get many posts (despite the fun that can be had online there).

Cheers. G.

[WestCoast1]

A cutie from few years back.CM: Home run. Nice work.

[Spitfire]

The The Philippines. Cebu is still there. It's not used a lot but there is a post from yesterday.

The link doesn't work for me either. However, the forum can be accessed manually by clicking on Forum, then Asia, then The Philippines. Cebu. It's directly below the main The Philippines forum.

The Cebu 2022 is a sub forum of the main The Philippines forum. It's actually a User blog at the bottom of the page.

All as clear as mud, I know, but there was a push years ago to peel out Cebu from the Philippines forum because it was so popular at the time.

Seems a bit wasteful and confusing now that Cebu doesn't get many posts (despite the fun that can be had online there).

Cheers. G.I see it now like a separate country listing. Weird. Thanks for the backstory.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/forumdisplay.php?773-The-Philippines-Cebu

[CanoMonger]

Thanks WestCoast.

I'm sure everyone has some to share.

[PIpimp]

I had a fantasy about hooking up with a pregnant woman. I'm happy to say I was able to fulfill this fantasy.

After searching on FB for messages I kept exploring the links until I found a post by a 20-year-old woman who was pregnant. I contacted her on messenger and we set up a time to meet. We agreed to meet outside a local department store and then we went next door to an hourly motel.

When got our room we each took a quick shower. We started with some foreplay. Sadly she did not do any type of BJ. I knew this in advance and was fine with it because I simply wanted to experience sex with a pregnant woman. So, after the fore play on went the condom and she hopped on top. We also went into missionary positions.

She was about 8 months pregnant and she felt nice, wet, and tight. After I finished we relaxed for a while and then went for round two.

It was not my favorite experience overall. Still, I'm glad to have the experience.

Total cost of 4 k php.You put on a condom with a pregnant girl?? The whole point of banging a pregnant girl is to give her a creampie. LOL.

[WestCoast1]

Get out there off the beaten path. Never know what you're going to find. Woof!

[Monte Christo]

In Puerto Galera, do the bars have rooms or do you pretty much have to bring the girl to your hotel?

[Goferring]

In Puerto Galera, do the bars have rooms or do you pretty much have to bring the girl to your hotel?I assume you mean Sabang. All the bars there can get handsy inside but none have individual rooms.

The one exception could be Coco Lips. Their upstairs room has gone through many reincarnations over the years including pool hall, change rooms, storage etc. For a short time it had very basic fuck-me facilities. It may be worth checking when you are in town.

Otherwise the girls are happy to duck out for a shortime.

Note that the massage places do not offer extras to tourists.

Enjoy. G.

[GreenBud]

- Many of the girlie bars have changed names. All the girlie bars are along the main alleyway.

- There are 11 girlie bars. Many of them were mostly empty around 9 pm.

- Best one is probably the one below Dream hotel. Observed around 40 girls on Sunday at 7 pm. On Monday, maybe half that number. There were a few decent girls. Most of the girls were average to slightly above average (that's on my personal scale).

- Kind of funny scene at the 7 pm opening time. There's a mad rush. The Koreans would walk between all the bars, trying to find their date for the night. Interesting is that usually, the Koreans would walk in, not order any drinks, and look at the girls. Sometimes they would barfine the girl without ordering a lady's drink. It seems there is no mandatory lady's drink. Bars are not enforcing any mandatory drinks for the customers.

- Higher percentage of East Asians to Westerners than Angeles.

- It seems CocoLipz and Kiss "something" are the 2 girlie bars that Westerners hang out at.

- Barfine at Melodie (the original Venus from 2007) was 5000 pesos. At another bar, observed a customer ask and get a 2500 barfine; this is where you pay half to the bar, and then give the other half to the girl when you are done.

- Beers prices are same or more than Angeles; between 140 to 160. Around 2007, the beer prices were way lower than Angeles. The food is horrible. I can't believe I miss the food from Angeles.

- Sabang doesn't seem that busy. I thought January was high season.

- They mostly finished the concrete boardwalk. Some places are closed; they're building more hotels. Not sure if this place can support all the dive hotels and girlie bars.

- I miss the Sabang scene from 2007; way better.

[Goferring]

- I miss the Sabang scene from 2007; way better.Unfortunately, Sabang is another one to relegate to the 'good old days' list.

It was once very popular with western tourist due to its ease of access for SG, HK etc expats and its one of the few places that has both good diving and girls on tap. The yellow invasion and online opportunities elsewhere have made huge impacts now.

A few comments in your points:

You always had to be an early starter at the bars. As you said, Koreans do a sweep as doors open and most guys are diving the next day anyway so aren't looking for all night drinking sessions.

Half now, half in the morning has always been in place. Girls and bars would try with full payment before leaving on new guys but it's not required. Obviously, prepayment doesn't bode well for service levels, runners and attitude. The 2. 5+2. 5 k should be full payment but over time girls have started to get use to extra tips on top as well.

Enjoy. G.

[Expat American]

Unfortunately, Sabang is another one to relegate to the 'good old days' list.

It was once very popular with western tourist due to its ease of access for SG, HK etc expats and its one of the few places that has both good diving and girls on tap. The yellow invasion and online opportunities elsewhere have made huge impacts now.

A few comments in your points:

You always had to be an early starter at the bars. As you said, Koreans do a sweep as doors open and most guys are diving the next day anyway so aren't looking for all night drinking sessions.

Half now, half in the morning has always been in place. Girls and bars would try with full payment before leaving on new guys but it's not required. Obviously, prepayment doesn't bode well for service levels, runners and attitude. The 2. 5+2. 5 k should be full payment but over time girls have started to get use to extra tips on top as well.

Enjoy. G.Last I went to Sabang was 2018. Bar scene was the same as you describe, but worse than Korean punters were Chinese divers. Never seen a bigger bunch of untrained careless group of idiots under water. Couldn't keep buoyancy, picked up marine life, kicked the coral and would kick you in the face and knock your mask off. Hopefully Covid has at least ended that nightmare.

[Goferring]

Last I went to Sabang was 2018. Bar scene was the same as you describe, but worse than Korean punters were Chinese divers. Never seen a bigger bunch of untrained careless group of idiots under water. Couldn't keep buoyancy, picked up marine life, kicked the coral and would kick you in the face and knock your mask off. Hopefully Covid has at least ended that nightmare.I take it you never dived with Russians. 😁.

This isn't the Dive Channel so, to be fair, many of the female Korean dive masters were super hot. I don't know any white guys who got far with them though as their male compatriots didn't want to see them infected with white dicks so were major cock blockers if they noticed any attempts being made.

It's a shame as Sabang was a great place to spend a week or two. Most of my best memories of fun girls came from there.

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I take it you never dived with Russians. 😁.

This isn't the Dive Channel so, to be fair, many of the female Korean dive masters were super hot. I don't know any white guys who got far with them though as their male compatriots didn't want to see them infected with white dicks so were major cock blockers if they noticed any attempts being made.

It's a shame as Sabang was a great place to spend a week or two. Most of my best memories of fun girls came from there.Bang bang Sabang has had its day I feel too.

Last time soon got pissed with arrogant Chinese and Korean 4 day millionaires and their tactics. Once again Asian tourists have driven the price up and service levels down - 5 k for ST in Phil BS.

Found Coco lips as best Western bar too where girls were more than happy to treat non Asians to a good time. Great for diving now but that's all.

Seems like even Boracay is not what it once was too. Anybody know of decent swim / dive beach with adequate supply of girls in Phil?

NI.

[Goferring]

Anybody know of decent swim / dive beach with adequate supply of girls in Phil?

NI.Subic has bars. Moalboal has an active online scene or you can import / byo from Cebu. It's only 3 hours away.

Enjoy.

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Subic has bars. Moalboal has an active online scene or you can import / byo from Cebu. It's only 3 hours away.
Enjoy.Yeah been to Subic but hardly swim able -yuk. Been to Cebu too. Never got to Moalboal & whale sharks. Possibility maybe, Thanks.

NI.

[Dg8787]

Gentemen,

On my next trip I like to take a side trip to Mindinao. Possibly with a Mindinao bg back to her province if it is a day trip from the hotel. I have never been to Mindinao.

I would like suggestions on nice hotels with western standards. I would most likely be flying in from Manila and staying in the airport city.

Thank you gents in advance.

[Pez612]

Hi all. I've been in Sabang for a day and made contact with a few girls for ST fun. Can anyone help with price for ST? I getvthe feeling prices are higher here. I was thinking 3000 at most, but some ask 4000. Any advice appreciated. Please note these are not girls requiring barfine, but girls I'm meeting online who are nearby. TIA.

[WestCoast1]

Gentemen,

On my next trip I like to take a side trip to Mindinao. Possibly with a Mindinao bg back to her province if it is a day trip from the hotel. I have never been to Mindinao.

I would like suggestions on nice hotels with western standards. I would most likely be flying in from Manila and staying in the airport city.

Thank you gents in advance.Bit confusing. DG you are looking for hotels in Surigao? Or Butuan? CDO?

[NewImage]

Hi all. I've been in Sabang for a day and made contact with a few girls for ST fun. Can anyone help with price for ST? I getvthe feeling prices are higher here. I was thinking 3000 at most, but some ask 4000. Any advice appreciated. Please note these are not girls requiring barfine, but girls I'm meeting online who are nearby. TIA.Been to Sabang 3 times. Each time prices were higher and higher- Koreans and other Asians pay ridiculous prices and girls have to do little work to service them. Many girls esp the better looking ones won't even look at you unless you are Korean etc. Many of us crossed Sabang off the list a long time ago. My advice get the boat back to Batangas and head back to Manilla.

Found the same in Angeles. If you are stuck the best club I found was CoCo Lips, Best Hotel. Montani and you got to try the ribs at Jack Daniels.

[Goferring]

Hi all. I've been in Sabang for a day and made contact with a few girls for ST fun. Can anyone help with price for ST? I getvthe feeling prices are higher here. I was thinking 3000 at most, but some ask 4000. Any advice appreciated. Please note these are not girls requiring barfine, but girls I'm meeting online who are nearby. TIA.Sabang barfines are a 50/50 split so of 5000 the girl is only getting 2500. You can use this to guide the freelancer pricing. It was along time ago, but I always just paid the same as a bargirl's tip.

You don't say if you were looking for ST or LT. Your 3 k seems fair for a looker ST or a 7 LT. Maybe they are just trying their luck with a new face in town.

I'd agree with NI: unfortunately, Sabang's best days are well and truely over.

You do realise that there is a large college campus across the water in Batangas?? 😍.

Enjoy. G.

[Goferring]

Gentemen,

On my next trip I like to take a side trip to Mindinao. Possibly with a Mindinao bg back to her province if it is a day trip from the hotel. I have never been to Mindinao.

I would like suggestions on nice hotels with western standards. I would most likely be flying in from Manila and staying in the airport city.

Thank you gents in advance.Taking a BG back to her hometown is a sure fire way to be a walking ATM for the duration. There is no need to guess who will be paying for all the family dinners, tours, sick grandma's etc. Not to mention that they will always be around, cutting into the fuckability time.

I'd much prefer taking a Mindanao girl to neutral territory say Davao with a few days in Samal or Siargao etc.

In Davao, the Peoples Park area is close to everything. You have Apo View Hotel or numerous condos in Avida. The airport is close so minimal travel time. The downside is that daytime traffic is getting crazy.

Enjoy. G.

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Sabang barfines are a 50/50 split so of 5000 the girl is only getting 2500. You can use this to guide the freelancer pricing. It was along time ago, but I always just paid the same as a bargirl's tip.
You don't say if you were looking for ST or LT. Your 3 k seems fair for a looker ST or a 7 LT. Maybe they are just trying their luck with a new face in town.
I'd agree with NI: unfortunately, Sabang's best days are well and truely over.
You do realise that there is a large college campus across the water in Batangas?? 😍.
Enjoy. G.Hey Gof any nice beaches in Batangas. Places where you can swim and play?

NI.

[Goferring]

Hey Gof any nice beaches in Batangas. Places where you can swim and play?

NI.Anilao.

Just out of Battangas.

[PhilJoy]

Hi all. I've been in Sabang for a day and made contact with a few girls for ST fun. Can anyone help with price for ST? I getvthe feeling prices are higher here. I was thinking 3000 at most, but some ask 4000. Any advice appreciated. Please note these are not girls requiring barfine, but girls I'm meeting online who are nearby. TIA.Hi Pez,

I'd go 3000 tops in this situation. You can even get away with a lot less. Obviously these girls up their prices to get the best they can. If you pay a lower price and look after them they'll still appreciate the cash that otherwise would not be forthcoming.

[PhilJoy]

Hi Guys,

Just reporting on a recent trip to Boracay.

I was apprehensive at first but everything worked out okay.

Okay, so the place is 'talked up' to be one of the 7 most beautiful places on the planet.

On the van ride from the port to my hotel I asked myself, "When is this place going to look beautiful?

Put simply, the interior seems to be like anywhere else in the Phils, but once you get beachside, it is quite nice.

To be honest, if you want a beautiful island (and no sex) go to Fiji or Bantayan.

Prior research revealed there was little or no action there with the working girls, however all it took was to do a few walks past some of the nightclubs around Station 2 and before I knew it, the offers came along. Yes, a few lady boys to dismiss, but there was a number of cuties to invite back to the room and at the same price you'd find in AC or Makati.

Did Boracay live up to expectations? Probably not as it didn't live up to the hype and no, I don't want a f*cking massage!

Was there action there? . Definitely.

Would I go back? . Probably not. Having said that, it would be an ideal place to take your new Filipina GF for a week or so of sun and fun.

Quality of freelancers? . 6-8.

Just my opinion and hope it helps.

Phil.

[KapnAmerica]

Following Thailand, I arrived in the Philippines. I don't have much to report in the way of mongering, as I have a girlfriend and friends in Leyte and I spent almost all my time with them.

I traveled to Tacloban through Manila, which I knew was going to be a mistake (and it was) but it was the only connecting route for my schedule. Needless to say I didn't make there in one day and ended up having to spend the night in the shithole that is Manila. I will strongly advise anyone traveling to or through the Philippines to avoid the Manila Airport if at all possible. Some of you already know why and some of you will find out soon enough.

My Filipina girlfriend still lives with her parents and they don't know about me, so she goes home to sleep every night. That means I am able to wander around freely at night. I usually spend that time singing at the karaoke bar with my friends, all of whom would be finalists on American Idol in the USA But can't even make first row in the church choir in the Philippines.

My Filipina girlfriend is by far the most sexually insatiable woman in my life. The answer to the question of "how much sex?" is always more, and she's always ready to go unless it's that time of the month. We do plenty of other activities but we burn a lot of calories in the bedroom. I have never slept with another Filipina, and there is a simple reason for that. My body simply can't handle any more sex when she is around. She is a rare beauty with a pure heart and I thank my lucky stars she has chosen to be in my life. She is also the only woman who knows I have other girlfriends in the Western Hemisphere and she accepts that. The one lover I can be halfways honest with about my complicated love life, and I respect her immensely for her maturity. I offer her the same liberty, although she swears she isn't interested in anyone else.

One would think all that would keep me on my best behavior while I am alone in her city, but my boredom and curiosity got the better of me on Saturday night. I went out to explore the nightlife scene. I took a tricycle to Paro Paro, a quaint little gentlemen's club in Palo. I had been there once before, and I greeted one of the mamasans, Alma, who I had made friends with on my last visit. It is a nice place to relax, and open 24/7, but the lineup left a lot to be desired that night. I had a drink and then headed out to explore new horizons.

The next stop was at a gentlemen's club very close to the Oriental Leyte Hotel. I do not remember the name, but it is located on one of the little side streets off Manlurip Road, a few blocks south of the hotel. Like most places there, it does not show up on Google. However, any tricycle driver around there will know where it is if you tell them you are looking for the club where the ladies dance.

My expectations were low when my driver turned down the little side street, but I was pleased with what I saw. A dozen gorgeous 20-25 year old Filipinas were lined up in a row in front of the establishment wearing identical cute little plaid skirts and halter tops. They whistled and waved as we pulled up. Clearly I had stumbled upon a hidden treasure.

My driver and I went inside. The place was like a small auditorium. In the back middle was one large stage elevated about five feet off the ground with a pole in the center. There were several L and you shaped benches for seating with coffee tables in the middle that could accommodate anywhere from 4-8 people. There was also an upstairs balcony area with railing, which I was told was the "VIP Section".

The cost to sit in the VIP Section was 2,500 pesos. A beer costs 100 pesos. When a girl comes and sits with a customer, the customer is apparently required to buy her a "lady drink" which costs 200 pesos.

My driver and I and sat in the lower area and I got beers for both of us. In a few minutes, two beautiful girls sat down beside us. They were cousins from Mindinao and looked enough alike that they could have been sisters. One was 24 and the other was 21. I would say the older one was an 8 and the younger one was a 7. Both extremely cute, light-skinned and with ample natural cleavage. Unfortunately, it was hard to have a decent conversation with them because the music was so loud. But I did enjoy rubbing my hands over their backs and sides while they giggled and we tried to converse.

I am a pretty simple guy when it comes to these types of places. Good music and pretty women dancing is all I need to enjoy myself. So this club was right up my alley. The girls came up on stage one at a time and danced for two full songs that they had specifically chosen. The dances were good too, not the laughable halfhearted gyrations you see in a Thai club or many USA Clubs.

The girls were stunningly beautiful and all of them seemed happy to be working there. Out of the twelve or so I saw, I would have bar fined at least eight of them in Thailand. The thing is, this was the most innocent club that I had ever wandered into. There was no nudity whatsoever. All the girls kept their tops and skirts on while they danced. And the dances were sensual but not raunchy or overly provocative. None of the girls ran their hands over their breasts or pubic regions while they danced. They essentially danced like their uncle was sitting in the audience. Which actually may have been the case for some of them.

I was the only white person in the club. I believe there was one guy who looked like he was from China, Japan or Korea, but everyone else seemed to be a native. And the place was fairly packed, as one would expect on a Saturday Night.

After being in the hedonistic conclave of Bangkok, this little club in Leyte was a breath of fresh air. I actually enjoyed the pure innocence of the atmosphere, where beauty and elegance were cherished for their own sake and not just an enticement for cheap sex. My natural reflex was to ask for the numbers of the girls I sat with, but I knew what it would probably lead to and had neither the time nor desire to spoil their innocence. I can't say if I would have had any success tempting one of those beauties into my bed, either for free or for a price. But I would warn any foreigner who visits the club that doing so is not likely to be easy, and to not be surpised if any lewd proposals are met with harsh rejection. My impression was that these were genuinely pure hearted women who enjoyed their night time jobs and would take offense to being asked to have sex for money.

After an hour or so, the girls who sat with us had to go up on stage to dance. I was hoping that other girls would come and replace them, but they seemed to be spread pretty thin that night with all the customers. If I ever go back there, I would pay for seating in the VIP Section, as there seemed to be a much higher girl-to-customer ratio up there from what I could see. I tried to ask what the "perks" were of sitting in the VIP, but no one could ever hear me over the music.

A short while later, we left and drove down to check out the discotec in downtown Tacloban. My driver waited outside while I went in. It was a 400 peso cover (which includes one free drink), extremely crowded and cramped, and I was again the only white person in there. There were several girls who tried to dance close to me and some were staring at me like a lioness at a T-Bone steak. But being there all alone, I felt uncomfortable, out of place and it wasn't my scene. So I left after one drink and went back to the hotel.

After a couple more days with my special lady and friends, it was time to head home. But there was one last quick stop along the way: Taiwan.

[PhilJoy]

Hi Guys,

Just wondering if anyone could give some feedback on the Wild Orchid Hotel in Subic?

I've stayed at the Angeles property and have never had a problem, but most of the reviews I've read about the Subic hotel aren't great.

I assume it's relatively close to the action and it's also under different management than the Angeles hotel by the same name.

There just doesn't seem to be many other options in town when I plan to stop by.

Thanks in advance.

Phil.

[PhilJoy]

Hi Guys,

Just wondering if anyone could give some feedback on the Wild Orchid Hotel in Subic?

I've stayed at the Angeles property and have never had a problem, but most of the reviews I've read about the Subic hotel aren't great.

I assume it's relatively close to the action and it's also under different management than the Angeles hotel by the same name.

There just doesn't seem to be many other options in town when I plan to stop by..Sorry guys. Just realized this should have been a Subic post.

Phil.

[Transporter]

Hi Guys,
Just wondering if anyone could give some feedback on the Wild Orchid Hotel in Subic?
I've stayed at the Angeles property and have never had a problem, but most of the reviews I've read about the Subic hotel aren't great.
I assume it's relatively close to the action and it's also under different management than the Angeles hotel by the same name.
There just doesn't seem to be many other options in town when I plan to stop by.
Thanks in advance.Phil.True there is a better suited section, but FYI, as far as feedback, I think there are better options in the area for the same or better money. If you and your company like the pool, and will be using the pool, then the wild orchid has the best pool set up. The main complex is located on the mountain side of the road, and across the road are the beach rooms. I do prefer the beach rooms over the main rooms mostly because there is a bar and dining area just outside of the rooms. "Close" is relative, but for me, no its not close to the action. Orchid is located on / in baloy beach while the action is on the main road in barretto. Yes it is close as you can easily walk it, but I always trike it, so it is not close for me. Not exactly sure you would want to be walking that trek in the dark anyway. More middle of the action would probably central park (never stayed there, but I have heard about it).

[PhilJoy]

True there is a better suited section, but FYI, as far as feedback, I think there are better options in the area for the same or better money. If you and your company like the pool, and will be using the pool, then the wild orchid has the best pool set up. The main complex is located on the mountain side of the road, and across the road are the beach rooms. I do prefer the beach rooms over the main rooms mostly because there is a bar and dining area just outside of the rooms. "Close" is relative, but for me, no its not close to the action. Orchid is located on / in baloy beach while the action is on the main road in barretto. Yes it is close as you can easily walk it, but I always trike it, so it is not close for me. Not exactly sure you would want to be walking that trek in the dark anyway. More middle of the action would probably central park (never stayed there, but I have heard about it).Thanks so much Transporter.

I really appreciate the advice offered in this forum.

I'll check out some other options but they seem limited when I'll be travelling.

I've done many places in the Philippines but the only time I stayed in Subic was in the Freeport Zone with work years ago.

I'll be staying at the Wild Orchid in Angeles later this year for a few nights between work commitments.

Phil.

[PhilJoy]

Hi all,

Heading back to Sabang soon, only because it's fairly easy to get to from Manila and near some water.

Just wondering if anyone's been there recently and what the scene's like now?

It's over a year since my last visit.

Also wondering if anyone's had any luck with any of the girls in the bar out the front of The Big Apple?

For some strange reason I think they refer to it as a cafe. The pole by the bar suggests otherwise.

On one previous visit for a beer towards the end of the bar alley, the manager seemed like a *****, but the girls looked nice.

They tried to hit me up for lady drinks at the time but there was never any mention of 'extras'.

Thanks in advance Phil.

[Goferring]

Also wondering if anyone's had any luck with any of the girls in the bar out the front of The Big Apple?

For some strange reason I think they refer to it as a cafe. The pole by the bar suggests otherwise.

On one previous visit for a beer towards the end of the bar alley, the manager seemed like a *****, but the girls looked nice.

Do you mean the night time freelancers or the daytime foot traffic? Freelancers ebb and flow: numbers build until they become too much competition for the bribe paying bars who then have them cleared out. The cycle repeats it's self. Most are ex bar workers and there is often a reason why they no longer can work in the bar. Daytime foot traffic includes many bargirls just walking around doing their daily chores. Many are open to a overtime. The stools at the front of Big Apple make a great vantage point to watch or make a selection.

Are you talking about the small eatery between the Big Apple and the water? It was extremely popular with the girls due to cheap and well cooked local dishes. See above for enticing girls.

There has always been a colourful group associated with the ownership and management of the Big Apple. Some have been great guys but, yes, some have been "different". The same can be said for it's customers: everything from mom, dad and the kids to dead bodies have occupied the rooms.

Enjoy your stay but I'm afraid Sabang saw it's best days years ago.

G.

[WestCoast1]

Getting out of the city can be a net gain. Picture time once again. Enjoy.

[PhilJoy]

Do you mean the night time freelancers or the daytime foot traffic? Freelancers ebb and flow: numbers build until they become too much competition for the bribe paying bars who then have them cleared out. The cycle repeats it's self. Most are ex bar workers and there is often a reason why they no longer can work in the bar. Daytime foot traffic includes many bargirls just walking around doing their daily chores. Many are open to a overtime. The stools at the front of Big Apple make a great vantage point to watch or make a selection.

Are you talking about the small eatery between the Big Apple and the water? It was extremely popular with the girls due to cheap and well cooked local dishes. See above for enticing girls.

There has always been a colourful group associated with the ownership and management of the Big Apple. Some have been great guys but, yes, some have been "different". The same can be said for it's customers: everything from mom, dad and the kids to dead bodies have occupied the rooms..Hi G and thanks for the feedback.

No I was referring to the bar at the front of Big Apple in the alley. They refer to as a cafe. For some reason. I don't think they do coffee judging by the pole beside the bar.

They ask for lady drinks, but it's obviously not that sort of place. Just a regular bar from the look of things on my last visit. Was just wondering if anyone has had any luck with any of the girls in there.

Phil.

[Mike Stud]

Anything at all here? Lots of massage parlors! Any action in those?

[PhilJoy]

Anything at all here? Lots of massage parlors! Any action in those?Hi Mike. Unsure. But let us know how you went. Always looking for new places to check out after getting the business out of the way in Manila. Cheers Phil.

[Pez612]

Anything at all here? Lots of massage parlors! Any action in those?Philippines Red Cat website (nightlife-and-filipina-girls-in-palawan) lists a few places where it states there is some action. I'm a massage parlor kinda guy myself so hoping there is some massage happy endings.

[PhilJoy]

Philippines Red Cat website (nightlife-and-filipina-girls-in-palawan) lists a few places where it states there is some action. I've found Philippines Red Cat to be handy on a couple of occasions Pez. Then again, the helpful hints from guys on forums like this are great too. It's also good to know you can get very recent info and opinions, especially when travelling to, or are in places in The Philippines you haven't been to before_ Phil.

[Goferring]

I'm planning a trip across northern Mindanao: fly into Surigao, overland to Butuan and CDO, then either west to Illigan and Ozamis or south to Davao and Gensan.

If anyone has been to any of these and has some must do's / not do's, please let me know.

I'll be mostly operating online but, similarly, if there are good places to meet and greet, pass them on too.

Obviously, any residents who would like to meet over a beer and swap stories, just PM me.

Cheers. G.

[Nightrider1]

I'm planning a trip across northern Mindanao: fly into Surigao, overland to Butuan and CDO, then either west to Illigan and Ozamis or south to Davao and Gensan.

If anyone has been to any of these and has some must do's / not do's, please let me know.

I'll be mostly operating online but, similarly, if there are good places to meet and greet, pass them on too.

Obviously, any residents who would like to meet over a beer and swap stories, just PM me.

Cheers. G.I have been to all those places in my 56 Phil trips and with the exception of Ozamis they were all fun and enjoyable. Not much going on in Ozamiz as its very small. I would say CDO, Davao are the best But I picked up girls or chatmates in Gen San at tuna park and the Plaza in the evening hours. Many years ago CDO had night cafe where they closed the downtown city streets on Friday and Saturday nights, and had live bands and food and drink vendors. It was very nice but the new mayor closed it down Why I have no idea. Iligan has some nice waterfalls and Butuan a good museum.

I would say the best Mindanao city is Davao. Peoples Park is a nice place to stroll any time of day and chat up the girls that come there to walk or jog or hang out. Malls are exceptionally nice. I like ecoland SM myself but there are many others. Its probably the cleanest city and safest because Duterte was Mayor years ago and ruled with an iron fist. I believe his son is the nayor now there and his daughter was mayor after her pappa got the be Presedent. Have fun and I know you will.

[Goferring]

I have been to all those places in my 56 Phil trips and with the exception of Ozamis they were all fun and enjoyable. Not much going on in Ozamiz as its very small. I would say CDO, Davao are the best But I picked up girls or chatmates in Gen San at tuna park and the Plaza in the evening hours. Thanks for that. Yes, I've been to Davao / Samal several times and have always enjoyed them. CDO and Gensan also have come with good reputations and online research of Ozamis shows some willing and gorgeous girls. Of course, reality is sometimes different once boots on the ground but we'll see.

I'm still undecided about turning west or south after CDO but I'll make that decision when I'm there.

Cheers. G.

[PhilJoy]

I'm planning a trip across northern Mindanao: fly into Surigao, overland to Butuan and CDO, then either west to Illigan and Ozamis or south to Davao and Gensan.
If anyone has been to any of these and has some must do's / not do's, please let me know.
I'll be mostly operating online but, similarly, if there are good places to meet and greet, pass them on too.
Obviously, any residents who would like to meet over a beer and swap stories, just PM me..Let us know how you go G. I'm always looking for new spots to visit for a few weeks between work in Manila and flying home. I've yet to do Mindanao, or indeed Davao. Phil.

[Goferring]

Let us know how you go G. I'm always looking for new spots to visit for a few weeks between work in Manila and flying home. I've yet to do Mindanao, or indeed Davao. Phil.Will do. I can definitely recommend Davao for those with some time. It takes a few days to find ones feet and build up some contacts on the first visit but the girls are often gorgeous with great attitudes. Everything you hear about the city being super safe and relatively well organised is very true.

More to come in the other cities when I visit.

Enjoy. G.

[PhilJoy]

Will do. I can definitely recommend Davao for those with some time. It takes a few days to find ones feet and build up some contacts on the first visit but the girls are often gorgeous with great attitudes. Everything you hear about the city being super safe and relatively well organised is very true. Enjoy. G.Great to hear G. I'd never really considered Davao and it sounds very promising. I always like to check out new places in the PH on all my work trips. Always good to combine work with play. Phil.

[PhilJoy]

Hi guys, just wondering if anyone's done Puerto Princesa on Palawan? I don't know if I'll have the time to head up to El Nido. Cheers in advance _ Phil.

[Old And Ugly]

Hi guys, just wondering if anyone's done Puerto Princesa on Palawan? I don't know if I'll have the time to head up to El Nido. Cheers in advance _ Phil.Yes there are 3 girlie bars there, I forgot the names, maybe phoenix, or something similar. Just tell a trike driver what you're looking for.

[Jingo10]

Hi guys, just wondering if anyone's done Puerto Princesa on Palawan? I don't know if I'll have the time to head up to El Nido. Cheers in advance _ Phil.PP is a bit of a one horse town, not much there really. Unless you've got business there I don't think there's much reason to go. I was only there a couple of days though as I was travelling to el Nido.

Tiki bar was a lively place and if lucky you could find girls in here.

But I was only passing through so I'm no expert.

[PhilJoy]

PP is a bit of a one horse town, not much there really. Unless you've got business there I don't think there's much reason to go. I was only there a couple of days though as I was travelling to el Nido.

Tiki bar was a lively place and if lucky you could find girls in here.

But I was only passing through so I'm no expert.Thanks Jingo. Yeah I might have some business lined up there and mightn't have the time to travel further. A bit of a fly in, fly out mission for a few days. I'll report back if I find any good options. Phil.

[PhilJoy]

Yes there are 3 girlie bars there, I forgot the names, maybe phoenix, or something similar. Just tell a trike driver what you're looking for.Thanks Old and Ugly. That's handy to know there are some options there. Agreed, the trike drivers or hotel staff usually point you in the right direction in most cities. Phil.

[WestCoast1]

Of interest, see pic. Found on social media. Apparently, effective June 1, if you want to visit Bucas Grande island (near Siargao) you must register at the municipal tourism office when you arrive, as per Municipal Ordinance.

[PhilJoy]

if you want to visit Bucas Grande island (near Siargao) you must register at the municipal tourism office when you arrive, as per Municipal Ordinance.Great info Westie. Always looking for new places to visit during business trips. Any action there that you know of? Phil.

[WestCoast1]

Great info Westie. Always looking for new places to visit during business trips. Any action there that you know of? Phil.None. BG and Siargao are off-the-beaten-path islands an hour or two by boat from provincial Surigao city (far north-east corner of Mindanao). Cuties exist, but its not a mongering spot. BYOGirl.

[PhilJoy]

None. BG and Siargao are off-the-beaten-path islands an hour or two by boat from provincial Surigao city (far north-east corner of Mindanao). Cuties exist, but its not a mongering spot. BYOGirl.Cheers Westie. BYO's always cheaper at a restaurant and it is in The Philippines too. Phil.

[PhilJoy]

Hi guys,

Just wondering if there's any action on Mactan Island without having to go into Cebu City?

I have a one, maybe two night stop-over there on a business trip and it's obviously where the airport is.

Regards in advance. Phil.

[Wicked Roger]

Hi guys,

Just wondering if there's any action on Mactan Island without having to go into Cebu City?

I have a one, maybe two night stop-over there on a business trip and it's obviously where the airport is.

Regards in advance. Phil.Lots.

Use the FB walking groups as many advertise there, also the bars, malls are full of cuties as well as use the dating sites.

If based ion Mactan I would not go Cebu as the journey can be slow and painful etc.

[Goferring]

Cheers Westie. BYO's always cheaper at a restaurant and it is in The Philippines too. Phil.Sorry, but if we are talking like for like, I've got to disagree. It's much better to pay the tourist tax and buy locally. Here's the math*:


"I want to save money and not pay repeated bar fines and / or inflated service charges at remote or tourist areas". I spent 10 k per week for her, 14 k on airfares to two destinations and probably 2 k per day on her trips, trinkets and food. Surprisingly, food in tourist destinations was not a trivial cost. It literally cost more to feed her than fuck her. Do the math over 14 days and the exercise cost 60 k. In hindsight, this could have paid a lot of tourist mark ups for local short timers, a hell of a catch up blow out upon return to civilization or even an extension to the holiday.Now, if you talking taking a good city giro away for the weekend for the price of a bikini, turn that's different.

An all expenses paid trip for a hooker? Never again. 😁.

Enjoy. G.

* Yes, old number but it would only get worse with today's figures.

[ThreeInches]

... it's obviously where the airport is....
It's been a very long time since I went to cebu but Waterfront used to be "the" place to get lookers in lapu-lapu but that was quite a while ago. Google "Aurora Entertainment & Restaurant".

Their are also a be bars on the road to the 2nd bridge after the gaisano mall turn left instead of right onto that road. That pic is from "Gurls Friend KTV Bar" not my picture found it was dated Nov. 2023 , was called something else when I used to hang out in lapu-lapu would like to know if this area is still active if you do get to these places shoot us an update. Good luck.

[Jarango]

Sorry, but if we are talking like for like, I've got to disagree. It's much better to pay the tourist tax and buy locally. Here's the math*: Now, if you talking taking a good city giro away for the weekend for the price of a bikini, turn that's different. An all expenses paid trip for a hooker? Never again. 😁..You took a hooker away on a dream, a fantasy and you paid extra for that. We have all been there in one form or another. Big parts of this and the wider leisure industry run on it, glamorous escorts, seeking arrangements, the Olympics and the like.

Paying for Disneyland is fine but the real quesiton is when do we get off the carasel and leave Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck and the rest of them to others.

Case in point: I am thinking of bringing my sweetie to her home place, a bamboo shack in nowhereseville for her week off work. It won't break the bank (I hope) but do I really want to be eaten alive by mosquitoes and wonder if my money and papers will get nicked, and if her family will continue to make predictable comments about my relative advanced years? I also know she is talking to other guys and maybe more, I don't mind that, as she is human with her own ambitions but should we pay extra in time, money and hassle for their dreams?

[PhilJoy]

Lots.

Use the FB walking groups as many advertise there, also the bars, malls are full of cuties as well as use the dating sites.

If based ion Mactan I would not go Cebu as the journey can be slow and painful etc.Thanks Roger, Yes I've done the hike into Cebu City in the past and this time will be a business trip with a night, maybe two, staying near the airport. I'll do my research on the bars. Never knew about FB walking groups. Never-the-less, I've always found a way in the PH _ Phil.

[PhilJoy]

Sorry, but if we are talking like for like, I've got to disagree. It's much better to pay the tourist tax and buy locally. Here's the math*:

Now, if you talking taking a good city giro away for the weekend for the price of a bikini, turn that's different.

An all expenses paid trip for a hooker? Never again. 😁.

Enjoy. G.

* Yes, old number but it would only get worse with today's figures.Thanks G, I suppose all situations are different.

From my previous experience it worked out well. No airfares required, just a cheap bus and fastcat ride, hotel was previously booked by me for two (which was just the same price for one) and I basically had her available for sex on tap without having to deal with the daily negotiations and bar fines.

Sure, she liked to eat but it was no different to taking a Western girl out to dinner every night on vacation. Only difference was, I knew I'd get some action afterwards when we went back to our room.

And I felt comfortable knowing all my cash went in her pocket and not the mama or a dodgy bar owner.

And, she still performs her tricks for me freelance if we're in the right place at the right time whenever I return.

(Disclosure: I still look for other talent though) _ Phil.

[Goferring]

You took a hooker away on a dream, a fantasy and you paid extra for that....True. My post was an editted reply to Phil purely about the $$ In my case, based purely upon that criteria, it didn't add up. Have a look at the original post in full and I list many other criteria. Some were a disaster, some ok and some great.

I'm not totally against BYO. Just need to select the right girl, location, duration and activities.

Enjoy. G.

[Jarango]

I have an issue with my lady friend. She gets one week off around new Year, including scheduled days off, new year and holidays. I had offered to bring her wherever she wants. She wants to go back visit home in the outback, which is fine only 1. I don't fancy the mosquitos or the bamboo shack or the hassle of early morning flights etc and be. I want to shop around, as does she.

She is a nice woman with some personal, wholesome objectives I don't even want to hint at. But she works really hard and is exhausted. That is her life and I respect her.

But I don't eant to fly half way round the world for a week of mosquitoes and some months tinkering around, waiting for her day off, which she has to use to recuperate. I had planned to work at a separate project as well, which is dear to me.

Much dearer than she is, if truth be told.

I am not planning to travel until nearer the end of the year but here is my proposed solution. Sling her a few hundred $$ to allow her go home and then paddle my own canoe. There is the added complication that we are both well known at the hotel as it adjoins her place of work but that is not a major issue if I dodge her.

Also, whqt is the best way for a non Gcash guy (me) to sling her some $$ (not WU) wehn she does not have a bank account?

[WestCoast1]

Also, whqt is the best way for a non Gcash guy (me) to sling her some $$ (not WU) wehn she does not have a bank account?There are several remittance services similar to WU. You make an account on one of them (such as Remitly or World Remit), and on that account you link your credit card or bank ATM card. Then you can send money from your CC or bank account to the girl for cash pickup at any number of locations (for a fee), such as Cebuana, LBC, or BDO. When you send the money thru Remitly, you enter her full name as it is on her ID. Remitly gives you a reference number. You copy / past the reference number to your girl, and she can go pick it up.

Once in Phils, get a Smart or Globe SIM card, register it, and get a verified GC account. That way, when you are in your home country, you can GC directly to your girl's GC in Phils. Keep in mind that when sending GC, the girl will lose 2% (or more) of the money she picks up as a cash-out fee (some sari stores will cash-out for GC, and might charge as much as 10% fee). Hence when sending to her, she may request that you add 2% extra so that she can pick up the full amount.

[Jarango]

There are several remittance services similar to WU. t.Thanks for that. I have some of those apps and I think my confusion arose with some BS about her ID. I think I want to pay her off but let her down gently with redundancy pay.

As I am researching fllights (see below) and hookers, she sent me a link to some midde aged Pinay tending to a washed up Brit. Though I see where she is coming from, I don't intend finishing my days like that.

On the subject of planes, skyscanner and kayak give great deals until you click through on them. Booking through the airline, rather than the scrapers seems to be the surest.

[PhilJoy]

I have an issue with my lady friend. She gets one week off around new Year, including scheduled days off, new year and holidays. I had offered to bring her wherever she wants. She wants to go back visit home in the outback, which is fine only 1. I don't fancy the mosquitos or the bamboo shack or the hassle of early morning flights etc and be. I want to shop around, as does she.

She is a nice woman with some personal, wholesome objectives I don't even want to hint at. But she works really hard and is exhausted. That is her life and I respect her.

But I don't eant to fly half way round the world for a week of mosquitoes and some months tinkering around, waiting for her day off, which she has to use to recuperate. I had planned to work at a separate project as well, which is dear to me.

Much dearer than she is, if truth be told.

I am not planning to travel until nearer the end of the year but here is my proposed solution. Sling her a few hundred $$ to allow her go home and then paddle my own canoe. There is the added complication that we are both well known at the hotel as it adjoins her place of work but that is not a major issue if I dodge her.

Also, whqt is the best way for a non Gcash guy (me) to sling her some $$ (not WU) wehn she does not have a bank account?Shit it looks like you're in a bit of a spot there Jarango. From what you've told us, I'd go for the one who is 'much dearer' (assuming closer to you, as opposed to more expensive). No need to send through cash if you're planning to cut ties and go elsewhere. Just call it quits if you have to.

Obviously everyone has emotional connections to certain girls, but over many years I've discovered we're all 'playing the game'.

Their intentions are no different to ours. Play the game and enjoy yourself. I've never sent any girls money despite numerous requests after bedding them, so I'll leave it with some more senior members to advise how to compensate her. Just my experience. Phil.

[Jarango]

Their intentions are no different to ours. Play the game and enjoy yourself. I've never sent any girls money despite numerous requests after bedding them, so I'll leave it with some more senior members to advise how to compensate her. Just my experience. Phil.I will be off somewhere else in late summer, after which I will contact here and sling her a few hundred $$, so she can go back home for her break and not eat into her savings. She is not a hooker but it is hard to stay straight in Angeles which is a one trick town. That gives me a clean break. She sent me a video tonght of some Brit guy with a stroke being tended to by his Pinay GF. She probably sees that future with me but I don't. She sees it nto in a bad way but that is the scope of her vision.

I need to go on with my life and not just have a conversation about "how was your day", 6 pm in Manila -= 12 noon in Amsterdam every day.

I could go to India and pick up with some chick on a dirt track, whose life consists of eating, sleeping and shitting on that dirt track and using cow paddies to stay warm. There are many things to admire avout working class Pinays but there life is not our life. The gulf is too big and it is a fantasy to beeive we can cross it.

[PhilJoy]

I will be off somewhere else in late summer, after which I will contact here and sling her a few hundred $$, so she can go back home for her break and not eat into her savings. She is not a hooker but it is hard to stay straight in Angeles which is a one trick town. That gives me a clean break.Hi J. I see Westie has given you some great advice re: slinging her some cash.

Way more than half of the girls I have in 'my little black book' are not hookers. However (and this probably applies more so to inquisitive newcomers to this forum) I'm wise enough to know that those girls most probably have another five of 'me' lined up as soon as I head back home. It's basic Filipina economics and I get it. They're providing a service and there's guys prepared to pay for it.

There's probably two or three I know which could be potentially keepers, but I have a business based an eight hour flight away and whilst I'm absent from the PH, I know they could be getting up to anything. It's easier for me to just have a great time whenever I return on multiple occasions for business every year and play the field.

Just my experience _ Phil.

[GDreams]

Also, whqt is the best way for a non Gcash guy (me) to sling her some $$ (not WU) wehn she does not have a bank account?You can select mobile money with Remitly and send to GCash.

[Wzrd94]

Hello everyone,

Visiting Cavite Philippines next week specifically General trias area. Any recommendations for massage with extra / escorts and where can I find them? Also does grab work around cavite all the time? Please help a brother out.

Thanks.

[Keen Eye Joe 1]

Today (Sunday) I decided to make the one hour drive to Butuan City to buy supplies at the SM mall. During my numerous weekly visits over the past two years, I've made eye contact with several girls but just attributed it to the novelty of being a somewhat rare foreign man walking without a wife or girlfriend.

But today it hit me that there is at least one group of mall-walking hookers hanging out there. Upon arriving at 10:30 am, I headed into the SM department store. As I was checking out the insulated flasks, a young lady stops by and begins eyeing the merchandise. Our eyes met and I smiled, then she walks over and asks if I have a wife.

Negative, I replied. At that time a salesgirl stops by to assist me. The young gal left, but apparently was stalking me as I did not notice her as she stepped beside me on the escalator. She then asked if she could give me her phone number, but I replied that I'd left my mobile in the car.

When we reached the top, she nervously jetted off in another direction. As luck would have it, after 10 minutes I spotted her again and we exchanged numerous glances while walking on the first floor.

My interest was piqued, and my senses were heightened, so I decided to take the initiative. We started walking together and when we got to a quiet area, I came right out and asked if she did "short time", and she replied affirmatively.

I then asked her age and price and she said, "18 but running 19, and payment is up to you". As I wasn't super horny, I offered P1500, which she accepted. Then I mentioned I needed to stop by Watsons to purchase some condoms, and she replied "why?". Nah, after a case of Chlamydia a few years ago, I always play it safe.

Tall for a Filipina, I'd guess she was 5' 5". Solid but not chubby body with big knockers, long hair, cute smile, and a fairly pretty face. Very nice personality but somewhat shy, which made her quite endearing.

No need to go into much detail about "the deed", but she was compliant and sweet. No BJ but she rubbed "it" for around 15 minutes as we kissed. Her box was extremely tight, and I had a hard time inserting my little buddy. But all's well that ends well.

She and two friends often walk SM looking for foreigner customers. Another girl gets the most action within the trio, and after viewing her pic I can see why. Short, petite, dark skin, long straight hair, and a killer face. Exactly what most Caucasian guys seem to be looking for. I hope we cross paths the next time I go.

By the way, I've visited Butuan's Gaisano and Robinson's malls on hundreds of occasions and never been approached by a working girl. Guess I need to stop at SM more often.

[PhilJoy]

Negative, I replied. At that time a salesgirl stops by to assist me. The young gal left, but apparently was stalking me as I did not notice her as she stepped beside me on the escalator. She then asked if she could give me her phone number, but I replied that I'd left my mobile in the car.
Great report Joe. I bought a cheap phone in a store on Macatan Cebu on one of my very first visits and the girl selling it set up everything for me. Within half an hour, I got a text from 'the sales lady' asking if I wanted to meet up after she finished work. The PH is always full of wonderful surprises _ Phil.

[WestCoast1]

No need to go into much detail about "the deed", but she was compliant and sweet. No BJ but she rubbed "it" for around 15 minutes as we kissed. Her box was extremely tight, and I had a hard time inserting my little buddy. But all's well that ends well.

She and two friends often walk SM looking for foreigner customers. Another girl gets the most action within the trio, and after viewing her pic I can see why. Short, petite, dark skin, long straight hair, and a killer face. Exactly what most Caucasian guys seem to be looking for. I hope we cross paths the next time I go.KIJ: Good province report. Will PM you.

The unusual can happen in the province. A few years back I was in a city near this one. I had a regular there for about a year. One day she showed up with this 19 yo in tow, Gina. Gina is tiny and was wanting to earn money to buy a cell phone. We came to terms for the afternoon's 2-pop session and had a lovely time. Gina would become a semi-regular for a number of years. Phils is like a box of chocolates: Never know what you're going to get.

[PhilJoy]

Just heard from one of my Sabang girls that Marti's Bar in the alley is up for sale with a 12 year lease for 7,000,000 Pesos (USD 119,000).

A bar with three rooms above for accommodation or short term visits.

Personally, and after working in the alcohol industry, if I bought a bar in the PH, I'd have a heart attack within a year after 'interviewing' protentional staff.

And it's a long trike / boat / bus / car ride to the nearest decent hospital from Sabang.

I'll be back there in August and if it hasn't been snapped up by then, I'll check it out and give you an update.

Just assuming the Koreans will move in on it in the mean time.

Phil.

[WestCoast1]

Good morning gents. An example of what can be tap when you get out of the big city. This one was brought to me by a regular girl. All part of the 'Friends & Family' tradition.

[Mushuu09]

Will be returning to the PH and want to do some beach tourist stuff, like visiting El Nido. Not much info on the place, except few bars. But my experience is the bars are never the same as the ones in AC. Any suggestions on where to find girls in El Nido. Not really info BYO girl, but have a pinalove account. Even on there, the number of girls are scares and it's hard to tell if they live far away. Nothing sucks more than setting up meetings for weeks and months and then she doesn't show. I like to find my treasures at the destination, so info on where to go. Or info on the search would be helpful.

Suggestions on the number to nights in El Nido to do the touristy stuff. Place to visit, eat, etc. Are all helpful. Last time I went to Moalboal Cebu, and found maybe one or two girls who were looking for friends, but none of them were of interest to me. Pinalove doesn't have too many girls in the area either.

[WestCoast1]

Will be returning to the PH and want to do some beach tourist stuff, like visiting El Nido. Not much info on the place, except few bars. But my experience is the bars are never the same as the ones in AC. Any suggestions on where to find girls in El Nido. Not really info BYO girl, but have a pinalove account. Even on there, the number of girls are scares and it's hard to tell if they live far away. Nothing sucks more than setting up meetings for weeks and months and then she doesn't show. I like to find my treasures at the destination, so info on where to go. Or info on the search would be helpful.

Suggestions on the number to nights in El Nido to do the touristy stuff. Place to visit, eat, etc. Are all helpful. Last time I went to Moalboal Cebu, and found maybe one or two girls who were looking for friends, but none of them were of interest to me. Pinalove doesn't have too many girls in the area either.M: Can you show us a link to your previous Moalboal trip report? You asked questions of us back in 2019, but you never filed any descriptive field reports of your visit.

[Jarango]

Any suggestions on where to find girls in El Nido. Not really info BYO girl, but have a pinalove account. Even on there, the number of girls are scares and it's hard to tell if they live far away. Nothing sucks more than setting up meetings for weeks and months and then she doesn't show..You chat with some hooker for weeks and months znd then no show. It is like that parakeet in The Sopranis who coments on a guy getting a facelift beofre being sent to the can.

Hookers are not going to wait for tire kickers.

[Goferring]

You chat with some hooker for weeks and months znd then no show....I've never understood why guys insist on this.

Option 1: I'm in Hotel X. Want to come over and blow me?

Option 2: I'm in mom's basement in Nebraska. If I save up some money; if I get my holidays approved; if I can find some discount airfares; if I decide not to go to Thailand, Vietnam, Colombia, or any of 1000 other monger destinations; if I don't fall in love in Manila and actually make it to El Nido; if I don't meet someone else on the beach first; if I don't lose your phone number; if I don't throw a hissy fit at your overpricing, will you come to my hotel and blow me? I should arrive in November or December.

Which is going to be more successful? 😔.

Enjoy. G.

[Dg8787]

You chat with some hooker for weeks and months znd then no show. It is like that parakeet in The Sopranis who coments on a guy getting a facelift beofre being sent to the can.

Hookers are not going to wait for tire kickers.Best way is to just go there. Wear a sandwich board and walk around. Write on the sandwich board with some heart signs. "Looking for love short time is ok".

Don't waste your time weeks or months in advance.

[PhilJoy]

\ Last time I went to Moalboal Cebu, and found maybe one or two girls who were looking for friends, but none of them were of interest to me. Pinalove doesn't have too many girls in the area either.Mate, from a lot of experience, a beautiful beach and action experience isn't easy to find in the Phils. As you'd know, Moalboal is only good for checking out sardines. Great to witness, but apart from that, it left a lot of time for reading a book. The best results I've had was in Boracay with freelancers, but although the place is nice, it's not world class as it's promoted. I've also asked the question here about El Nido and the response has been it's basically tricky to find some action. If you want to waste a lot of time on dating sites, go for it. Just ask the locals or the hotel staff at a quality beach location in the Phils and you'll generally get pointed in the right direction. Phil.

[PhilJoy]

I've never understood why guys insist on this.

Option 1: I'm in Hotel X. Want to come over and blow me?

Option 2: I'm in mom's basement in Nebraska. If I save up some money; if I get my holidays approved; if I can find some discount airfares; if I decide not to go to Thailand, Vietnam, Colombia, or any of 1000 other monger destinations; if I don't fall in love in Manila and actually make it to El Nido; if I don't meet someone else on the beach first; if I don't lose your phone number; if I don't throw a hissy fit at your overpricing, will you come to my hotel and blow me? I should arrive in November or December..I'm thinking you've completely 'nailed it' there G.

[Mushuu09]

M: Can you show us a link to your previous Moalboal trip report? You asked questions of us back in 2019, but you never filed any descriptive field reports of your visit.Report. No girls whatsoever. All tourist. There was a thick girl playing pool that may have been a freelancer. And so what if I had asked questions. I have posted stuff here and there. Are you the international sẽ guide police now, chill out. If you don't want to provide advice, then don't. You took it out of your time to go and.

Investigate for nothing. Get a life.

[Mushuu09]

You chat with some hooker for weeks and months znd then no show. It is like that parakeet in The Sopranis who coments on a guy getting a facelift beofre being sent to the can.

Hookers are not going to wait for tire kickers.Girls. Hookers. Whatever you want to call them. Just the scarcity of girls on pina is indicative of the experience to be found. Hoping there is more there than I can find but I doubt that's the case.

I don't really understand the sorpranos reference so sure.

[Mushuu09]

I've never understood why guys insist on this.

Option 1: I'm in Hotel X. Want to come over and blow me?

Option 2: I'm in mom's basement in Nebraska. If I save up some money; if I get my holidays approved; if I can find some discount airfares; if I decide not to go to Thailand, Vietnam, Colombia, or any of 1000 other monger destinations; if I don't fall in love in Manila and actually make it to El Nido; if I don't meet someone else on the beach first; if I don't lose your phone number; if I don't throw a hissy fit at your overpricing, will you come to my hotel and blow me? I should arrive in November or December.

Which is going to be more successful? 😔.

Enjoy. G.I've chat with girls from dating sites and have met them when I get to town. So the two opinions you wrote aren't necessary the only way things happen. Not everyone is looking for quick fucks and can tell when their grandmas aren't sick. You've been in the Philippines too long where you think girls are after you social security check, they are. But sorry you did read my post wrong, as the question is, hey are ther girls there? I've looked on pina and it doenst instill the abundance found elsewhwre.

[Mushuu09]

Best way is to just go there. Wear a sandwich board and walk around. Write on the sandwich board with some heart signs. "Looking for love short time is ok".

Don't waste your time weeks or months in advance.Yep, seems like the reaction is not very positive. I enjoy chatting one line but won't count on that avenue to meet girls.

[Mushuu09]

Mate, from a lot of experience, a beautiful beach and action experience isn't easy to find in the Phils. As you'd know, Moalboal is only good for checking out sardines. Great to witness, but apart from that, it left a lot of time for reading a book. The best results I've had was in Boracay with freelancers, but although the place is nice, it's not world class as it's promoted. I've also asked the question here about El Nido and the response has been it's basically tricky to find some action. If you want to waste a lot of time on dating sites, go for it. Just ask the locals or the hotel staff at a quality beach location in the Phils and you'll generally get pointed in the right direction. Phil.You got it right. Even boracay had few girls in the same group. Moabal was a busy. And even Cebu wasnt as what the "internet" says. LOL if it was that easy I would not be asking here. Since the info is a bit sparse I asked the forums. Would love to find some company while I vacation but the place sounds like a byob, bring your own be**ches, spot. That's cool, thanks for the confirmation. From videos the downtown area looks promising for partying, so will take a crack at that and maybe make new friends. Will have to fly back to AC to seek fulfillment.

[WestCoast1]

Report. No girls whatsoever. All tourist. There was a thick girl playing pool that may have been a freelancer. And so what if I had asked questions. I have posted stuff here and there. Are you the international sẽ guide police now, chill out. If you don't want to provide advice, then don't. You took it out of your time to go and.

Investigate for nothing. Get a life.Got one.

Sorry my good man, but its not that simple. You ask questions, we expect you to provide some feedback. It would be nice to know that if we provide you with intel, that you will provide something back this time. Neither your previous posting history, nor your current attitude indicates such. "I should have posted some reports before, I'll do better", is much better than "give me your lunch money and buzz off".

[Mushuu09]

Got one.

Sorry my good man, but its not that simple. You ask questions, we expect you to provide some feedback. It would be nice to know that if we provide you with intel, that you will provide something back this time. Neither your previous posting history, nor your current attitude indicates such. "I should have posted some reports before, I'll do better", is much better than "give me your lunch money and buzz off".I have shared many details and replies here through out the years. I don't post every single trip nor details. If you don't want to give advice bc you think I am not sharing your welcome not to. It is offensive when you pick one instance and try to make a big deal. How do people get senior status. By posting, and by sharing.

[PhilJoy]

Hi guys,

I've been to White Beach many years ago on Bohol and did okay with a few locals and it was basically another diving location. I was just wondering if anyone has had any luck in Tagbilaran? I might be there for a few days for work. Thanks in advance. Phil.

[Keen Eye Joe 1]

I recently drove to Butuan City to attend an early-evening get-together with friends. After departing, I made a couple of passes around the city's streetwalker area, more out of curiosity than horniness.

It is located along the streets bounded by Montilla Street, "are" Calo Street, Villanueva Street, and Montilla Boulevard around the Saint Joseph Institute of Technology (called S-Jet by the locals).

FYI: ISG's goofy and unchangeable autocorrect function turns the solitary letter in the alphabet between Q and S into the word "are". So "are" Calo is correct phonetically. You guys are smart, so you'll figure it out.

Don't expect any bargains because all the girls are pimped and are expected to pay between P300-500 to the "manager" who runs that particular street corner. So, they normally ask P1500 from Joe the Foreigner, a price I know is inflated because they try to charge the foreigner tax on this seasoned local. As I have other options, I rarely draw a girl from this area anymore, but it's fun to cruise around.

By the way, the only naughty videokes (three) in the city are in the same area, on the short stretch of Montilla Street between "are" Calo and San Francisco Streets. The Black Cat and Love City strip clubs are nearby, too. Ask any local trike driver for directions.

On one dimly lit corner I spottled a long-time female manager and her three girls. I've dealt with her a few previous times, and she knows what I like in a girl, plus over the years she's heard the word that I'm clean, honest, and unconfrontational.

She flagged me down on my second pass, so I stopped and lowered my window. She says, "Joe, I have a new girl, first night, needs to money to pay for school supplies, one thousand pesos".

Ahhh yes, this is the weekend that all Filipino parents of school-aged kids dread. Public school classes start next Monday, and the kiddies all need supplies and uniforms. A huge budget-eater for well over 50% of Butuanons, and I could imagine the sense of desperation inside this newbie.

I'm a fairly generous guy and I don't mind helping those in need. Yet, I've previously been the "first customer" of several streetwalking Filipinas and have found their service quality to be disappointing. Not only am I their first "trick", but also usually the first foreigner they've ever talked to, much less been intimate with. They are a bit scared, shy, and inhibited and simply hoping they survive the event.

So, in a moment of weak generosity, I said yes. The pimp gave the girl a 10 second speech in the Visayan language, then she got into my car.

30 years old with a 10-year-old daughter. Pretty face, big boobs, but a blobby body. Yeah, for the sake of charity I lowered my standards quite a bit, and I can't imagine she's going to get too many customers because usually there are some pretty cute and young gals out there who are more appealing.

We got a 3-hour air-conditioned room at a local lodge (P250) and spent about 20 minutes there. After taking separate showers, we did it "Filipino style", which means minimal foreplay. Kissed for a couple of minutes, jerked my little buddy for a minute, slapped on the condom, then let me pound her for a couple of minutes. Nothing special, but it got the job done.

Before leaving the room, I generously gave her an extra P300 to cover the anticipated pimp fee, then drove her back to her street corner.

I've learned through the years that it takes a minimum of P3000 to outfit a kid for the start of the school year, so the P1000 profit she earned makes a big difference for her. On the drive home, I basked in the glow of not only a satisfying ejaculation but also knowing my payment was going toward a worthy cause. I'm such a humanitarian.

[Old And Ugly]

. ... the first foreigner they've ever talked to, much less been intimate with. They are a bit scared, shy, and inhibited and simply hoping they survive the eventMan, you nailed it!

[Instigator23]

After my last visit to the PH in March I can't wait to go back.

I was wondering how is the nightlife and girlie action on Palawan Island? I want to spend most of my time there but could use some company.

Thanks for the help.

[PhilJoy]

For a start Sabang is quiet at the moment.

It's my third visit here where I have established a number of contacts previously. I've never been here in August though and during the low season when it's hot and humid as fuck, but still better than a winter alternative.

I arrived on Sunday and after delays and a bit of a long haul getting here, I decided not to hit the ground running. I took a walk down the infamous alley and had a few quiet beers at Marti's Bar, which is directly opposite Coco Lips. I could see whenever the doorman dragged the curtain open, there were a number of girls inside and hardly any customers.

Now being quiet can be a good thing depending how you look at it. Good, because the usually present Koreans haven't snapped up all the good lookers early on in the night and with a lack of customers in town, you're offered a good selection of choice. Not to mention cheaper hotel prices.

Night two, I decided to have a few beers in the Big Apple Cafe which is a separate bar to the hotel / restaurant and is located in the alley along from the night clubs. I'm told they don't refer to it as a bar, so it doesn't get labelled as a go-go, although there is a pole by the bar. I'd also read previously online that the girls working there are hookers. This isn't the case, as I now know a number of them. The bar generally profits from lady drinks, although the girls never openly offer their services, or does the older female manager try and hook you up with them. And although it seems a bit dodgy buying lady drinks when there's no guarantee of getting laid, at least the girls drink beers with you and not watered down liquor or fruit juice.

I hadn't seen one of the girls since my first visit to Sabang. I'd hooked up with her back then and kept in touch via messenger afterwards, but had basically dismissed her after her relentless requests for cash and sending though fake photo's of her supposedly sick kids.

She was now working there and within minutes was all over me. Deciding to keep my options open early on, I asked her for her WhatsApp details and decided to move on.

To cut a long post short, she was in my room at 1 pm this afternoon and her clothes stayed on for about five minutes. She is a little bit older than your average girl but with a hot little body and a tiny, tight, sweet pussy. She just loves it when you go down on her. All in all, it was a pretty hot two hour session under the aircon.

As she was leaving I placed 1500 p in her hand and told her to go and buy herself a present. There was no complaint about the price and the WhatsApp's been pinging since.

(I was originally going to hand her 2000 k but then thought I'd drop the offer and see what happens, as I know if it becomes a regular arrangement over the next week, she'd expect the same each time. So it is possible to set your own price).

_ Phil.

[Goferring]

For a start Sabang is quiet at the moment.Are the direct bancas from Batangas back or is it still ferry to Muelle then trike mafia to Sabang?

G.

[PhilJoy]

Are the direct bancas from Batangas back or is it still ferry to Muelle then trike mafia to Sabang?

G.Hi G,

It's still a fastcat / RoRo and then a trike ride.

There are number of 'private' craft showing up to Sabang's new pier, but what I've been told by locals is, they're generally hired by Korean dive groups and they're quite expensive if you want to make the trip solo as you'll have to hope there are other like minded people willing to make the trip and split the costs.

The trike I got the other day was 250 p and although the fastcat was delayed getting here, all wasn't too bad. Probably wouldn't want to do a trike ride in ten years though.

_ Phil.

[Locamotive]

Hi guys,

I've been to White Beach many years ago on Bohol and did okay with a few locals and it was basically another diving location. I was just wondering if anyone has had any luck in Tagbilaran? I might be there for a few days for work. Thanks in advance. Phil.I assume you mean White beach down by Puerto Galera, so mamy beaches there may be more than one. Not really a monger question more of a destination info. Got a regular in Manila ID like to take down for a few days next month on my visit, looks fairly east to get there with just a ferry ride. Feel a bit guilty as we always just party and screw, plus I'd like to get away from Manila for a change. Is this place as good as it looks on the internet, any tips, recommendation's would be appreciated.

[Old And Ugly]

After my last visit to the PH in March I can't wait to go back.

I was wondering how is the nightlife and girlie action on Palawan Island? I want to spend most of my time there but could use some company.

Thanks for the help.Probably you will have to be more specific about where on the Palawan Island are you going to seek action, it's a huge place.

[Goferring]

I assume you mean White beach down by Puerto Galera, so mamy beaches there may be more than one. Not really a monger question more of a destination info. Got a regular in Manila ID like to take down for a few days next month on my visit, looks fairly east to get there with just a ferry ride. Feel a bit guilty as we always just party and screw, plus I'd like to get away from Manila for a change. Is this place as good as it looks on the internet, any tips, recommendation's would be appreciated.Phil nominated that he was speaking about White Beach Bohol. It's easy to mix them up as there are beaches with the same name everywhere.

To answer your question, yes, Mindoro's White Beach is quite nice. Much more of a couple's or family destination than nearby fuckfest Sabang. Taking a good girl to Sabang would likely be uncomfortable for her and truly taking coal to Newcastle.

I'm not sure how well you know the area but, despite everyone labelling the general district as Puerto Galera, there really is nothing in the true township of PG. Stick with whatever beach fits your needs.

Enjoy. G.

[PhilJoy]

I assume you mean White beach down by Puerto Galera, so mamy beaches there may be more than one. Not really a monger question more of a destination info. Got a regular in Manila ID like to take down for a few days next month on my visit, looks fairly east to get there with just a ferry ride. Feel a bit guilty as we always just party and screw, plus I'd like to get away from Manila for a change. Is this place as good as it looks on the internet, any tips, recommendation's would be appreciated.Hi G and Loca.

Yes my initial post that was quoted was referring to Bohol and its White Beach and if there was any action in Tagbilaran as I might be there for work.

I'm currently in Sabang, and as G mentions, White Beach close to here in Mindoro is basically a local's destination and not really special to tell the truth.

And yes, Sabang has been a fuckfest for me. I've stuck with my contact and she's been amazing. I have picked up the details of a few new girls and swapped WhatsApp numbers for future reference.

As for a destination close to Manila, go for it. You'll be by the (unpolluted) water and it's very laid back and a reason I return to get out of Manila and have a good time. I took a bus down to Batangas from Manila for about 300 p and then the fastcat to Puerto Galera. A 250 p trike ride will then get you to Sabang.

Now, there's only basically a few things to do here. Diving, drinking and fucking. I have chosen the latter two choices and have been successful at both.

Just an update: Half of the bars in the alley closed before midnight here tonight. There's just not the customers around in low season. So if you want to pay bar fines and grab a hottie, it's a good time to be in Sabang as the Koreans aren't here to snap them up early in the night.

The other thing is, once the bars close due to lack of business, suddenly you have a number of cute freelancers on the prowl for half the price and definitely negotiable.

Just my observation _ Phil.

[Locamotive]

Hi G and Loca.

Yes my initial post that was quoted was referring to Bohol and its White Beach and if there was any action in Tagbilaran as I might be there for work.

I'm currently in Sabang, and as G mentions, White Beach close to here in Mindoro is basically a local's destination and not really special to tell the truth.

And yes, Sabang has been a fuckfest for me. I've stuck with my contact and she's been amazing. I have picked up the details of a few new girls and swapped WhatsApp numbers for future reference.

As for a destination close to Manila, go for it. You'll be by the (unpolluted) water and it's very laid back and a reason I return to get out of Manila and have a good time. I took a bus down to Batangas from Manila for about 300 p and then the fastcat to Puerto Galera. A 250 p trike ride will then get you to Sabang.

Now, there's only basically a few things to do here. Diving, drinking and fucking. I have chosen the latter two choices and have been successful at both.

Just an update: Half of the bars in the alley closed before midnight here tonight. There's just not the customers around in low season. So if you want to pay bar fines and grab a hottie, it's a good time to be in Sabang as the Koreans aren't here to snap them up early in the night.

The other thing is, once the bars close due to lack of business, suddenly you have a number of cute freelancers on the prowl for half the price and definitely negotiable.




Just my observation _ Phil.Thanks for the tips. Ill have a cutie in tow so early closing bars not a issue. Sounds like nice quite beach, a few drinking bars and fucking the rest of the time. Perfect. Just what I was looking for and not too far or expensive vs dragging her to Boracay or some other farther destination.

[PhilJoy]

Thanks for the tips. Ill have a cutie in tow so early closing bars not a issue. Sounds like nice quite beach, a few drinking bars and fucking the rest of the time. Perfect. Just what I was looking for and not too far or expensive vs dragging her to Boracay or some other farther destination.Hi Loca,

It's really only quiet because it's low season. Once the Korean divers hit the place in high season you're better off bringing your own talent. It's a holiday / long weekend now, so there's more feet on the ground today, but mainly folk from Manila. As for a beach, Sabang no longer has one since they've taken a few years to make the oceanfront a boardwalk of sorts. The good news is you can easily walk around to Big La Laguna beach which is relaxed and great for lying on the sand or swimming _ Phil.

[PhilJoy]

Hi Guys,

Just letting you know, I had a Filipina for lunch today and she was very tasty indeed.

On a serious note, the contact I've hooked up with this week has saved me the hassle, price and negations of the girly bars here. I 'tipped' her 2000 p today (and a few bottles of water) for a three hour service. I've found that once you have contacts, it's also a more personal experience for both.

Now for a bit of info for you all. She was a former Mamasan at Coco Lips. She said it wasn't worth the hassle in the end. Now she just recommends other girls if guys hit on her and she just takes 500 p commission and the girls negotiate on their own.

She did say that if a girl resigns from one bar within six months, they can't work in any other bars and there's obviously a bit of a 'mafia' going on, which is common worldwide in the sex industry. Girls who don't want to be 'owned' by one bar in particular and then decide to leave, commonly become freelancers apparently. The price then drops fairly dramatically.

She said the current barefine price in Sabang is 5000 p in which the girl gets half and the 'house' gets the split.

On the whole, Sabang has served me well. Laid back as usual, great views and one more lunch tomorrow before I head north _ Phil.

[Giovanni Volo]

Hello.

I would plan to go to Sabang and Manila. My easy time in next Summer. I saw you was in Augost. I would ask how is the clima.

Alwasy raining? Very hot? Or is ok?

Is still possible to swim?

Ok, I would came for girls, but I cannot stay with them all the day long. :-the.

Thanks in advance.

Giovanni.


Hi Guys,

She said the current barefine price in Sabang is 5000 p in which the girl gets half and the 'house' gets the split.

On the whole, Sabang has served me well. Laid back as usual, great views and one more lunch tomorrow before I head north _ Phil.

[Old And Ugly]

Hello.

I would plan to go to Sabang and Manila. My easy time in next Summer. I saw you was in Augost. I would ask how is the clima.

Alwasy raining? Very hot? Or is ok?

Is still possible to swim?

Ok, I would came for girls, but I cannot stay with them all the day long. :-the.

Thanks in advance.

Giovanni.In se asia the summer is the raining season, and when the taifuns are happening, choose wisely.

[Giovanni Volo]

In se asia the summer is the raining season, and when the taifuns are happening, choose wisely.Last year I was in Vietnam and Thailand.

Have Philippine worster raining season than Vietnam?

[Goferring]

Hello.

I would plan to go to Sabang and Manila. My easy time in next Summer. I saw you was in Augost. I would ask how is the clima.

Alwasy raining? Very hot? Or is ok?

Is still possible to swim?

Ok, I would came for girls, but I cannot stay with them all the day long. :-the.

Thanks in advance.

Giovanni.


In se asia the summer is the raining season, and when the taifuns are happening, choose wisely.


Last year I was in Vietnam and Thailand.

Have Philippine worster raining season than Vietnam?I've never found the traditional weather seasons to be a deal breaker for me. However, I no longer travel Jan to April. Technically, it should be no problem but I've been caught out multiple times and trapped on islands during this period:

Trapped in Sabang due to typhoon and cancelled bancas.

Sabang again. Typhoon wiped out power and therefore ATMs. Couldn't get cash to pay my room / hotel to leave.

Trapped on Malapascua. High winds cancelled bancas.

Cebu earthquake (not strictly weather related but just added to the bad juju vibes).

All of these could have been avoided by better planning and earlier responses on my part but I just decided to go in friendlier dates.

Maybe I'm just superstitious and YMMV.

Enjoy. G.

P.S. Sabang isn't really a swimming beach. More diving and some snorkelling. There are swimming sites a Day-boat tour or an hours walk away.

[Old And Ugly]

Last year I was in Vietnam and Thailand.

Have Philippine worster raining season than Vietnam?I'm not a weather expert, but I would be inclined to say yes, due to the geographical location, all surrounded by water vs Thailand and Vietnam that are on "land". It also depends on how lucky you are, but if you're only coming for a short visit I would chose the October to April period. For example, by living here, I do it on reverse: I do my traveling to US and EU during June to September when the weather is nicer there and bad here.

[Giovanni Volo]

Thanks for your reply. I do not want so many problem for getting girls. .

You wrote "I no longer travel Jan to April".

But this was not the better time to go?

I have the most of holiday in July and Augost, and that's the problem.


I've never found the traditional weather seasons to be a deal breaker for me. However, I no longer travel Jan to April. Technically, it should be no problem but I've been caught out multiple times and trapped on islands during this period:

Trapped in Sabang due to typhoon and cancelled bancas.

Sabang again. Typhoon wiped out power and therefore ATMs. Couldn't get cash to pay my room / hotel to leave.

Trapped on Malapascua. High winds cancelled bancas.

[Giovanni Volo]

Thank You.

I have the most of my work holiday in July and Augost and I am planning next Summer.

But if this isthe situation, I could go in April if I can get more holiday (not sure), or directly a couple of week in December 2025 (I already book December 2024).

After your informations, I think to look outside Philippine for Summer holiday.

Thanks.


I'm not a weather expert, but I would be inclined to say yes, due to the geographical location, all surrounded by water vs Thailand and Vietnam that are on "land". It also depends on how lucky you are, but if you're only coming for a short visit I would chose the October to April period. For example, by living here, I do it on reverse: I do my traveling to US and EU during June to September when the weather is nicer there and bad here.

[Old And Ugly]

Thank You.

I have the most of my work holiday in July and Augost and I am planning next Summer.

But if this isthe situation, I could go in April if I can get more holiday (not sure), or directly a couple of week in December 2025 (I already book December 2024).

After your informations, I think to look outside Philippine for Summer holiday.

Thanks.From the philippines airlines website, for example:

"Advisory.

As of 02 September 2024,02:00 PM.

For the safety of our passengers, PAL has cancelled the following flights on September 2, 3 and 4, due to Tropical Storm Enteng (international name "YAGI") and the enhanced Southwest Monsoon. ".

And a wole list of cancelled flights follows. During the summer season there are 3-4 announcements like this every month. The weather may be nice where you are but bad all around you, and no flights or boats are operating. And when the rain starts, usually there is a nasty flooding mixed with sewage.

[Giovanni Volo]

Thanks. Finally I will go to Cambogia and Thailand next Summer.

About Philippine, I would see if I can get holiday in from middle of April till beginning of May.

Otherwise I can go at the end of December, till beginning of January.

It would be less days of holiday than the ones I can get on Summer, but would I be safe? .


From the philippines airlines website, for example:

"Advisory.

As of 02 September 2024,02:00 PM.

For the safety of our passengers, PAL has cancelled the following flights on September 2, 3 and 4, due to Tropical Storm Enteng (international name "YAGI") and the enhanced Southwest Monsoon. ".

And a wole list of cancelled flights follows. During the summer season there are 3-4 announcements like this every month. The weather may be nice where you are but bad all around you, and no flights or boats are operating. And when the rain starts, usually there is a nasty flooding mixed with sewage.

[ForkTruck]

Thanks. Finally I will go to Cambogia and Thailand next Summer.

About Philippine, I would see if I can get holiday in from middle of April till beginning of May.

Otherwise I can go at the end of December, till beginning of January.

It would be less days of holiday than the ones I can get on Summer, but would I be safe? .Stay off dark streets, leave your CC and passport in the room safe, and keep some extra money in your shoe and you should be fine. Oh Yeah, carry an Umbrella.

[Zippos]

Make sure to wear shoes with laces otherwise they might take it them off along with your money, pun intended.


Stay off dark streets, leave your CC and passport in the room safe, and keep some extra money in your shoe and you should be fine. Oh Yeah, carry an Umbrella.

[Old And Ugly]

Thanks. Finally I will go to Cambogia and Thailand next Summer.

About Philippine, I would see if I can get holiday in from middle of April till beginning of May.

Otherwise I can go at the end of December, till beginning of January.

It would be less days of holiday than the ones I can get on Summer, but would I be safe? .Stay in tourist areas, and you will be safe, anyway there is nothing for you in other places. If you need to move in-between places thru manila or cebu, use taxis, don't walk.

[Seattle29]

Recently spent 7 days up in Tuguegarao for my cousin's wedding to a Filipina girl. She was born in the US but they got married in her ancestral hometown and it was only the 2nd time she's been to the Philippines.

It was hard to monger as lots of family were with us but I managed to get out a bit.

Stayed in the Holiday Plaza Inn in the city. The receptionists were all drop dead GORGEOUS and all under 20 years old. One was very flirty with me but didn't take it any further as my family were all in the hotel. Their Facebook has a video of the receptionsists dancing for Tiktok: https://www.facebook.com/reel/1926318441135523.

Hard to do research online as there's not much info but I befriended a local chap in a bar who showed me the places to go.

There's one road leading out of the city that turns into a line of Karaoke bars / thinly-disguised brothels from 6 pm onwards.

Don't expect much comfort though, dirty mattresses, no AC, curtains to separate the booths.

1000 peso for an hour with the girl. All happy for OWO but no BBFS. One promised me CIM but then puked when I unloaded a large load into her mouth, don't think she was expecting so much!

Met a few stunners but there were also some older, ugly ones working. A couple of chubby MILFs and one pregnant lady if that's your thing.

Was also recommended a Thai spa in the city. Masseuers all Filipino though, no connection to Thailand at all. Had a very nice sensual massage and blowjob there but no full sex.

I was told that if you head up even further north, you can get a girl for as cheap as 500 peso / hour in some of the small-town brothels.

[Goferring]

Has any one been to Siargao Island, off Surigao?? Yes I know they get confusing.

Conventional wisdom is that it's byo but a local Surigao slutlet showed me a video of her on the dance floor on the island and it was packed with babes. No idea if they were for hire or girlfriends. Lots of white surfer dudes with them so I'm thinking the later. No skanky hoes hanging off grandpa's evident so I don't like my chances.

I'd like to pad my cover story but not if I'm sitting around watching a bunch of bros and their girlfriends.

Anyone got first hand experience?

Thanks. G.

[Old And Ugly]

Has any one been to Siargao Island, off Surigao?? Yes I know they get confusing.

Conventional wisdom is that it's byo but a local Surigao slutlet showed me a video of her on the dance floor on the island and it was packed with babes. No idea if they were for hire or girlfriends. Lots of white surfer dudes with them so I'm thinking the later. No skanky hoes hanging off grandpa's evident so I don't like my chances.

I'd like to pad my cover story but not if I'm sitting around watching a bunch of bros and their girlfriends.

Anyone got first hand experience?

Thanks. G.Been there, it's exactly how you imagine it, young crowd partying among themselves. Most likely the girls were not local.

[Goferring]

Been there, it's exactly how you imagine it, young crowd partying among themselves. Most likely the girls were not local.Thanks. I'm going to pass.

Doesn't help that it's blowing 40 knots now too. Don't feel like going and not being able to get back.

I have had an offer from an Airbnb cleaner, so there is some options for those prepared to put in the ground work, but I'll move on

[Goferring]

After three years clean and sober I've relapsed and my addiction to Mindanao girls is back with a vengance.

I arrived in Surigao on Fiesta week so the place was packed. Trike loads of 19 yo goddesses everywhere. Surigao Tourist Inn was full when I arrived in the afternoon so they kindly upgraded me to a larger Executive room. It's a passable hotel with helpful staff. If I was to stay again, I would stay closer to the Boulevard and centre of town.

Online searching proved immediately successful with many girls, 18 to 28, happy to meet up. "You're here? Here in town? You're here in town, now?" That was until I confessed my situation back home. Confessing being married repeatedly put an instant hard stop on any intentions to meet let alone do the hokie pokie. This was a first as I'm always very upfront and the usual reply is 'its good that you're honest' or 'but we can still be friends' as girls are on their way over to suck me dry. Not in Surigao. Didn't matter that wifie is not a Pina. Didn't matter that wifie is at home in a different continent. It ain't happening. Fuck.

I spent two days looking around town and burning up my pre-booked 3 night stay and then made plans to move on. Lunch time the last day I get a Ping. "I've never met a foreigner before. We can have a meal but can I bring my friend? Lunch was a 189 p pizza and then it was time to go back to the hotel to relax. Some light chit chat and everyone is getting on well. Then she babbles to the friend in Bisaya. I think she's telling her it's time to go but no: "Do you want a threesome? Well. Cough. Ummm. Errr. Maybe I could fit that into my schedule. The original target then proceeds to give a great BBBJ. I'm talking absolute skull fucking with full penetration and endless stamina. I have to stop her as I don't want the party to end too soon. Friend then provides a change out and gobbles away before climbing on top to grind away while the other is sucking and biting my nipples. Don't blow yet. Don't blow yet. Ok, note to self. One is a champion sucker and the other is a champion fucker. Bounce between the two without stopping and no complaints until seeds are spilt with a big smile.

They tidy up and hang around chatting but can't stay the night. "But I like to wake up to sex in the morning". Nope, sorry. Got to get back to the family. I'm thinking husbands and not arguing. "But we can come back 8 am tomorrow and stay the day".

Well it looks like I may not be leaving town tomorrow after all. Extend the hotel stay. Forget about the bus ticket.

Sure enough they come again and it's on for young and old. The damage? 1500 a piece.

Welcome to the Province.

G.

[WestCoast1]

After three years clean and sober I've relapsed and my addiction to Mindanao girls is back with a vengance. I arrived in Surigao on Fiesta week so the place was packed. Trike loads of 19 yo goddesses everywhere. No! Stop! You are giving away the gold mine!


Online searching proved immediately successful with many girls, 18 to 28, happy to meet up. "You're here? Here in town? You're here in town, now?" That was until I confessed my situation back home. Confessing being married repeatedly put an instant hard stop on any intentions to meet let alone do the hokie pokie. This was a first as I'm always very upfront and the usual reply is 'its good that you're honest' or 'but we can still be friends' as girls are on their way over to suck me dry. Not in Surigao. Didn't matter that wifie is not a Pina. Didn't matter that wifie is at home in a different continent. It ain't happening. Fuck.Silence is golden.


Well it looks like I may not be leaving town tomorrow after all. Extend the hotel stay. Forget about the bus ticket.Mindanao girls. Can't imagine you'd find anything there. Nothing to see there in Mindanao, folks. Move along, move along.

[D Cups]

Well it looks like I may not be leaving town tomorrow after all. Extend the hotel stay. Forget about the bus ticket.

Sure enough they come again and it's on for young and old. The damage? 1500 a piece.

Welcome to the Province.

G.Outstanding! Got to get my ass there!

[PhilJoy]

Well it looks like I may not be leaving town tomorrow after all. Extend the hotel stay. Forget about the bus ticket.

Sure enough they come again and it's on for young and old. The damage? 1500 a piece.

Welcome to the Province.

G.Got to love the damage G.

I generally reward all my contacts 1500 - 2000 and it's always long time and way better bed action than anything you'd find with paying LD and a bar fine.

Had one tonight contact me via video chat on WhatsApp and I won't be seeing her until next year.

She knows she's going to get 10,000 next time I see her over five days and that's pretty huge for her.

We're also pretty good friends now due to this 'agreement' over the past few years. Her English and my Tagalog isn't fantastic, but the provincial girls fuck as well as any others IMO _ Phil.

[Goferring]

She knows she's going to get 10,000 next time I see her over five days and that's pretty huge for her.

My standard rate for XLT has always been the equivalent of a ST per day. This sounds pretty close to what you are doing. I'd agree that this can be a serious help to her finances for a few days if her time. I've certainly never had anyone complain or refuse a repeat.

G.

Cheers. G.

[Goferring]

Outstanding! Got to get my ass there!I did notice that the girls around town were often very cute but not the normal body type that I'm use to for Mindanao. More the petite cuties than the more statuesque girls down south. The 'more than a mouthfuls' were certainly enough for me but may not be the udders that you prefer.

To be brutally frank, the stunners were there but would not touch me for the reason given in my original report. The threesome weren't ugly but the Manila girl was definitely better looking. As is pretty normal, they definitely had other skills that compensated.

As I move around, I be sure to report on the predominant body type that I see.

Cheers. G.

[KenjiYoshioka]

So I'm trying to figure out how to get from Subic Bay (Olongapo) to Batangas Ferry Pier in order to get to Sabang. I've been RTFF, and I've found some conflicting information. For example, the Victory Liner (while I'm sure it exists) doesn't list any departures from Olongapo back to Angeles. Besides, that's quite a backtrack. Taking a taxi from Olongapo to Batangas is likely to cost 5 k PHP, and while that itself won't break the bank if there's a better way I'm sure you reprobates know what it is.

I've already managed to find the ferry schedule from Batangas to Puerto Galera. Sabang looks like a blast. I'm just not sure of the best way to get there from Subic Bay.

Also I've tried to look up the minibus schedule for door to door service from Angeles to Subic Bay; seems like a steal at 650 PHP. However, I can't find any listing for it online.

As always, any nudge in the right direction would be helpful and appreciated.

[Goferring]

So I'm trying to figure out how to get from Subic Bay (Olongapo) to Batangas Ferry Pier in order to get to Sabang. I've been RTFF, and I've found some conflicting information. For example, the Victory Liner (while I'm sure it exists) doesn't list any departures from Olongapo back to Angeles. Besides, that's quite a backtrack. Taking a taxi from Olongapo to Batangas is likely to cost 5 k PHP, and while that itself won't break the bank if there's a better way I'm sure you reprobates know what it is.

I've already managed to find the ferry schedule from Batangas to Puerto Galera. Sabang looks like a blast. I'm just not sure of the best way to get there from Subic Bay.

Also I've tried to look up the minibus schedule for door to door service from Angeles to Subic Bay; seems like a steal at 650 PHP. However, I can't find any listing for it online.

As always, any nudge in the right direction would be helpful and appreciated.Subic to Manila to Batangas to Puerto Galera to Sabang by road and ferry doesn't look much on the map but in reality it's an epic over land trek. Expect it to take a full day at least.

By far the easiest way I have done that trip is to catch the Air Juan Sea Plane. It did run direct Subic to Sabang a couple times a week. I'm not sure if it still does but call to find out. If you are doing the above by private charter the seaplane works out cheaper let alone saving time and hassle.

Even flying via their little dock in manila would be much preferred.

Good luck. G.

[Old And Ugly]

So I'm trying to figure out how to get from Subic Bay (Olongapo) to Batangas Ferry Pier in order to get to Sabang. I've been RTFF, and I've found some conflicting information. For example, the Victory Liner (while I'm sure it exists) doesn't list any departures from Olongapo back to Angeles. Besides, that's quite a backtrack. Taking a taxi from Olongapo to Batangas is likely to cost 5 k PHP, and while that itself won't break the bank if there's a better way I'm sure you reprobates know what it is.

I've already managed to find the ferry schedule from Batangas to Puerto Galera. Sabang looks like a blast. I'm just not sure of the best way to get there from Subic Bay.

Also I've tried to look up the minibus schedule for door to door service from Angeles to Subic Bay; seems like a steal at 650 PHP. However, I can't find any listing for it online.

As always, any nudge in the right direction would be helpful and appreciated.If you go pee in the men's bathroom in night moves, the add for the daily minivan to subic will stare you in the face. I think they offer also transportation + 1 night hotel package for about 1500 p, I never paid much attention to it, I don't know if that's the right price, but I remember that it appear to be cheap.

[GreenBud]

the Victory Liner (while I'm sure it exists) doesn't list any departures from Olongapo back to Angeles. Besides, that's quite a backtrackYou are going to have to backtrack to either Angeles or San Fernando.


Taking a taxi from Olongapo to Batangas is likely to cost 5 k PHP, and while that itself won't break the bank if there's a better way I'm sure you reprobates know what it is.My guess is that it's going to cost a lot more. My hotel charges about 8 K for the hotel taxi from Angeles to Batangas (tollway included).


I'm just not sure of the best way to get there from Subic Bay.The cheapest way will be the public bus.

Take the bus from Olangopo to Dau (Angeles). I've never done that route. Should be easy. Or to San Fernando. San Fernando should save a few minutes, but not that much.

I've taken the public bus from Batangas to Dau (Angeles) many times. I've never taken it from Dau to Batangas, but it should be similar / easy.

From Batangas, you take the bus to Cubao (in Manila). Then you get off, and ask the staff where to take the bus to Dau. They are always helpful. So from Dau (Angeles), you just go in the opposite direction.

Note: if you take the public bus, it will hit traffic in Manila. Hotel taxi takes less than 4 hours from Angeles to Batangas (since it will take the skyway in Manila).

If you take the public bus, you will need to go very early to catch the last boat to Sabang (actually, the new pier between the town and White Beach).

I am assuming you can go via San Fernando, but I've never taken the bus from there.

[NewImage]

So I'm trying to figure out how to get from Subic Bay (Olongapo) to Batangas Ferry Pier in order to get to Sabang. I've been RTFF, and I've found some conflicting information. For example, the Victory Liner (while I'm sure it exists) doesn't list any departures from Olongapo back to Angeles. Besides, that's quite a backtrack. Taking a taxi from Olongapo to Batangas is likely to cost 5 k PHP, and while that itself won't break the bank if there's a better way I'm sure you reprobates know what it is.
I've already managed to find the ferry schedule from Batangas to Puerto Galera. Sabang looks like a blast. I'm just not sure of the best way to get there from Subic Bay.
Also I've tried to look up the minibus schedule for door to door service from Angeles to Subic Bay; seems like a steal at 650 PHP. However, I can't find any listing for it online.
As always, any nudge in the right direction would be helpful and appreciated.Been there done that in 2016. Seemed simple at the time. Cost me half my trip. Lesson learned. Just pay the money for a taxi from Subic to Batangas or better break trip up into Subic to Manila and then 2nd trip Manila to Sabang. In 2016 pulled a hammy chasing bus who still had my bags underneath and took off then had some dodgy water that was sold on the bus. End result got to Subic and sat in the shower all night. Both ends of the intestine going. Felt llike sh*t. Was so bad booked return flight home. Lesson learnt. Pay for the comfort of a taxi.

NI.

[Goferring]

Subic to Manila to Batangas to Puerto Galera to Sabang by road and ferry doesn't look much on the map but in reality it's an epic over land trek. Expect it to take a full day at least.

By far the easiest way I have done that trip is to catch the Air Juan Sea Plane. It did run direct Subic to Sabang a couple times a week. I'm not sure if it still does but call to find out. If you are doing the above by private charter the seaplane works out cheaper let alone saving time and hassle.

Even flying via their little dock in manila would be much preferred.

Good luck. G.My bad. Looks like Juan Air didn't survive Covid.

Air Teav does land in PG though.

F.

[Old And Ugly]

If you go pee in the men's bathroom in night moves, the add for the daily minivan to subic will stare you in the face. I think they offer also transportation + 1 night hotel package for about 1500 p, I never paid much attention to it, I don't know if that's the right price, but I remember that it appear to be cheap.My bad, I thought you're starting in angeles city, but the same shuttle service is returning daily from subic to angeles. Maybe someone can go for a beer to night moves and take a look at the ad, or ask for details, I'm not in angeles right now.

I did the trip to puerto galera once with the minivan from royal amsterdam, but I don't remember how much it was.

[PhilJoy]

My standard rate for XLT has always been the equivalent of a ST per day. This sounds pretty close to what you are doing. I'd agree that this can be a serious help to her finances for a few days if her time. I've certainly never had anyone complain or refuse a repeat.

G.

Cheers. G.Agree G.

One thing you learn over time is the negotiation process.

I don't mean to sound mean considering the poverty in many places, but the girls do try and hit up the rate to that of a gogo including the barfine.

My most successful trick has been offering them 500 p every time I cum (sorry to be blunt).

It's worked wonders for me as I've probably got a maximum of 3 shots in a session, sometimes two.

And the best thing is, they're usually back the next day and on repeat.

As someone mentioned on the forum recently, they might get 500 p in a regular job a day.

Taking this approach, everyone's a winner.

(As usual, all my contacts follow up afterwards asking for huge amounts of money due to the typhoon, sick kids and other dramas).

I tell them I will only 'reward' them while I'm with them and say _ "If I have to give every Filipina money who asks, I'd be broke".

They always come back for more.

Phil.

[Goferring]

Agree G.

One thing you learn over time is the negotiation process.

I don't mean to sound mean considering the poverty in many places, but the girls do try and hit up the rate to that of a gogo including the barfine.

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They always come back for more.

Phil.I don't think it's mean especially when we are talking about XLT ie multiple days. A one off payment of 10 or 20 k is often the largest lump sum that these girls have ever seen. It's certainly a very substantial injection to their finances.

There's the true test there.

Cheers. G.

[KenjiYoshioka]

You disgusting, filthy, immoral, beautiful, amazing comrades in debauchery; thank you so much for the info. I hope it goes without saying that I'll gladly buy any of you a beer if and when we cross paths. I'll be asking a few questions in response in order to refine my schemes.

At GreenBud. I'm having difficulty finding any listing for the public bus (though I'm probably going to skip it; I'd like to discover the knowledge and keep it as a backup plan). Is there somewhere that the info is posted?

At Geoffering. What's Air Teav? Google search didn't come up with anything. Also, I'm assuming they take off from Subic / Olongapo?

At OldAndUgly. Actually, I am starting in Angeles heh. :3 I'm planning on flying into Clark and maybe just staying the night before heading out to Subic and hanging out there for some time. I enjoy the prospect of doing some diving in between banging girls (the important part) LOL! So this is the real trouble I'm having with trying to plan this out. I've tried to look up some schedules and bookings on the Victory Liner and Philtranco websites to get from Angeles City (either Clark or Dau) to Subic / Olongapo; and every search regardless of day comes up with zero. Are the buses currently not running because of the off season or something?

At PhilJoy. I like the idea of paying a Pinay 500 PHP per nut; that's hilarious. The best strategy would be to get a 3 some going and watch the girls fight over getting CIP and CIM.

But seriously guys, you rock. Thanks so much for all the input. Every little iota of info puts us one step closer to a great trip. . . And one hell of a report!

[WestCoast1]

My standard rate for XLT has always been the equivalent of a ST per day. This sounds pretty close to what you are doing. I'd agree that this can be a serious help to her finances for a few days if her time. I've certainly never had anyone complain or refuse a repeat.


I don't mean to sound mean considering the poverty in many places, but the girls do try and hit up the rate to that of a gogo including the barfine.

My most successful trick has been offering them 500 p every time I cum (sorry to be blunt).


I don't think it's mean especially when we are talking about XLT ie multiple days. A one off payment of 10 or 20 k is often the largest lump sum that these girls have ever seen. It's certainly a very substantial injection to their finances.

There's the true test there.Well put, all of the above. As this is the Other Areas forum, I'm talking about provincial girls here.


As someone mentioned on the forum recently, they might get 500 p in a regular job a day.The p500 for a day's work minimum wage might be, in reality, technically correct. But many people here work for less, in non-standard jobs (ie, washing clothes for a neighbor who has a home laundry biz). Pay might be 300 for a grueling day's work. Additionally most girls don't have any work, nor do they have access to it. Selling the slit might be an only opportunity, and selling it locally might be impossible as so many girls are giving it away. Hence, selling to a foreigner for 500 or 1000ST might be a good idea in her mind. The idea that a foreigner might toss her p7 k or p10 k for 5 days / nights with him might blow her mind (and might make a new foreigner think he's stealing it from her).


They always come back for more.This is one of the true tests. If you think someone is paying to little, that would be impossible if the girl returns regularly, willingly.

[MrPalmerAcc]

So I'm trying to figure out how to get from Subic Bay (Olongapo) to Batangas Ferry Pier in order to get to Sabang. I've been RTFF, and I've found some conflicting information. For example, the Victory Liner (while I'm sure it exists) doesn't list any departures from Olongapo back to Angeles. Besides, that's quite a backtrack. Taking a taxi from Olongapo to Batangas is likely to cost 5 k PHP, and while that itself won't break the bank if there's a better way I'm sure you reprobates know what it is.

I've already managed to find the ferry schedule from Batangas to Puerto Galera. Sabang looks like a blast. I'm just not sure of the best way to get there from Subic Bay.

Also I've tried to look up the minibus schedule for door to door service from Angeles to Subic Bay; seems like a steal at 650 PHP. However, I can't find any listing for it online.

As always, any nudge in the right direction would be helpful and appreciated.I tried to go from Angeles to Sabang in one day and ended up stuck in Calapan overnight. Thing is, the last ferry to Sabang was at 1 pm. That was in 2023, they might have later ones now, but check the schedule before you go. The guys at the information booth at the ferry terminal recommended I go to Calapan and then take a jeepney to Sabang, but I arrived in Calapan too late. Fortunately a local I met on the ferry had his brother take me to a decent hotel and then they came back in the morning and took me to the minivan terminal.

I highly recommend breaking it up into two days and spending the night in Manila. Subic to Manila one day, then go to Sabang the next morning.

[GreenBud]

At GreenBud. I'm having difficulty finding any listing for the public bus (though I'm probably going to skip it; I'd like to discover the knowledge and keep it as a backup plan). Is there somewhere that the info is posted?I guess "public bus" was an incorrect term. I meant bus companies like Victory Liner, etc.

If you go to the Victory Liner website, and if you want to go from Olongapo to Angeles, you have to select Olongapo to Dau. Dau is the bus station that serves Angeles. Cubao is the bus station that you need to go to if you want to go from Dau to Batangas (via Cubao).

BTW, Royal Amsterdam hotel in Angeles charges 7200 pesos for a car from Angeles to Batangas. 7900 for a crossover. If my memory serves me, it took about 3. 5 hours.

Also, when you get off in Batangas, be warned about touts around there. Some will want to rip you off. One had a BS story, and he said I should buy a ticket in one of those shack offices in front. Be careful about any Pinoy that wants to help you. Just go inside to the new big terminal and buy your ticket.


I've tried to look up some schedules and bookings on the Victory Liner and Philtranco websites to get from Angeles City (either Clark or Dau) to Subic / Olongapo; and every search regardless of day comes up with zero. Are the buses currently not running because of the off season or something?

It comes up.

https://www.victoryliner.com/TerminalGuide.aspx

[LoveItHere69]

Also, when you get off in Batangas, be warned about touts around there. Some will want to rip you off. One had a BS story, and he said I should buy a ticket in one of those shack offices in front. Be careful about any Pinoy that wants to help you. Just go inside to the new big terminal and buy your ticket.
Do not let those Aholes anywhere near you. Do not let them help you carry your bags. Do not talk or even look at them. Almost all are POS. Somehow they were able to steal my POS Nokia from me. This was 11 years ago and the phone was cheapest possible but the numbers on it cost me a lot.

[Goferring]

At Geoffering. What's Air Teav? Google search didn't come up with anything. Also, I'm assuming they take off from Subic / Olongapo?
Sorry. Typo. I'll get this right in a minute. It's Air Trav. It exists but I can't comment on reliability etc. I've never used it. Air Juan was great.

G.

[KenjiYoshioka]

So I came across this grab taxi fare calculator: https://www.taxifarefinder.com/main.php?city=GrabCar-Manila-Philippines.

It seems to think that getting a taxi from Subic to the Batangas Ferry Terminal is under 3 k PHP and takes something like 4. 5 hours.

Can this be accurate? The route seems to take the Manila Skyway so traffic reporting may actually be effectively predicting the travel time.

[Old And Ugly]

At OldAndUgly. Actually, I am starting in Angeles heh. :3 I'm planning on flying into Clark and maybe just staying the night before heading out to Subic and hanging out there for some time. I enjoy the prospect of doing some diving in between banging girls (the important part) LOL! So this is the real trouble I'm having with trying to plan this out. I've tried to look up some schedules and bookings on the Victory Liner and Philtranco websites to get from Angeles City (either Clark or Dau) to Subic / Olongapo; and every search regardless of day comes up with zero. Are the buses currently not running because of the off season or something?Everything is kind of "fluid" in the ph, if you want to use the buses, first you have to find out from what terminal they are leaving in the direction that you want to travel, then just go there and ask from what bay the bus leaves then ask the driver or his helper for the schedule, don't trust websites or posted schedules, may be outdated. You may have to waste one hour doing this, but is better to do it in advance, without luggage instead of running around aimlessly carrying suitcases, and finding out that there is no bus. At first glance everything appears to be chaotic in the terminal, and the answers that you're going to get will make you wander if they know what they are talking about, or if they pay attention to you. Better be there earlier when you're leaving because you may end up with no seat, traveling standing in between the rows.

Also it is possible that the genesis bus coming from naia with a stop at the sm mall in ac, goes further to subic, I'm not sure, and I never asked, but it goes somewhere because some passengers remain on board.

[Goferring]

After the Surigao threesome it was time to move on. Siargao lsland was a wash out due to wind cancelling the ferries. The mainland weather was turning worse by the day so I decided to head south. I wanted to go direct to Butuan and then to CDO but was correctly told that the eastern coast via Tandag was very scenic. I stayed just south of Tandag for two nights. Lovely place and on the beach but middle of nowhere and no girls to be seen.

From there it was the bus to Butuan. One thing I didn't realise was that the route took us past about a 1000 little schools, colleges and universities so there was just a constant stream of beautiful girls getting on and off. Forget watching a bored single mum strut around a chrome pole. For eye candy, this definitely took 1st prize.

The first day in Butuan was a non event. Alicia Guest House is new, clean and functional. Plenty of girls online and organised one to come over after work. Unfortunately at 10:30 pm we started the prepayment games so I just left it at that.

The next morning, I latched on to a gorgeous girl: tall, lean with massive jugs. 1500 per day for as long as I wanted. She even mentioned weeks which was a tad excessive.

She was an hour away in Cabadbaran. Of course, she didn't have busfare so asked for transport money. I GCashed 1000 p to her for the 200 p bus each way. The split second the transaction goes through, immediate radio silence and everything stays unread. Shit, I'm such an idiot. 'You there? Silence. Money gone, I latched onto another closer to home and she's on the way. Sure enough, another message 'sorry I was in the shower. I'm coming'. Cabadbaran girl is way more attractive than the local girl but I can't stop the moving train. Tell her that I thought she had cancelled and I'm going to see friends. Let's delay arrival to after lunch. She's ok with that. Crisis avoided.

Butuan girl arrives and she's a 3/10 drop vs the pics. Initial deal was 1500 for two shots at my leisure. However, getting old sucks and I don't want to waste a shot that could be put to better use after lunch. To be fair, she did put the effort in. One shot and I beg off tired. Give her the full 1500 because I'm a nice guy and wait for the bus to arrive. 3 pm, no arrival. 5 pm, no arrival. I message Cabadbaran but radio silence again. Looks like I've been taken. Idiot!! That evening, the Butuan girl is happy to return for fun and games including breakfast.

Mid morning I get a Ping and it's Cabadbaran. 'I'm at the station, sorry I missed yesterday, I had a fever". Sound like things are looking good. "I'm hungry can you send just 300 for breakfast". I sent you 1000 yesterday. " Mom needed rice". Clearly an attempt at milking more money, I ignored it and hit the apps again. It wasn't hard to find a replacement and she dropped around for a relaxed session.

[PhilJoy]

" Mom needed rice". Great report G and thanks for the other areas info.

Over the years I've also found it a very strategic game with the girls.

I've got one at the moment that's hammering me for money, yet she was probably one of the worst performers I've had.

On the other hand, there's another I'm seeing in November for two weeks, and the deal is, I'll pay her food and 500 p per shot which she's perfectly fine with. I do know her and she's not an online pick up.

The chase can be an interesting challenge at times, but well worth it, if not for the knowledge _ Phil.

[GreenBud]

So I came across this grab taxi fare calculator: https://www.taxifarefinder.com/main.php?city=GrabCar-Manila-Philippines.

It seems to think that getting a taxi from Subic to the Batangas Ferry Terminal is under 3 k PHP and takes something like 4. 5 hours.

Can this be accurate? The route seems to take the Manila Skyway so traffic reporting may actually be effectively predicting the travel time.Travel time is accurate.

Price will be impossible to get (even if you pay the tolls).

Angeles hotel taxis will charge you around 3900 (tollways included) from the airport to Angeles. Maybe you can negotiate a slightly lower price with a normal taxi. But you still have to account for the Subic to Angeles / San Fernando and the Manila to Batangas portions. And most taxis will need to account for the return trip.

I hope I'm wrong and you can get those prices.

For an inexpensive vacation after you land in Clark, do the following:

1) spend a night or 2 in Angeles.
2) take a trike or Grab to Dau bus station.
3) take the bus to Olongapo. From around there you can take that large jeepney bus or trike to the Bario Baretto bar area.
4) party on.
5) take jeepney bus or trike to Olongapo bus station. Get bus to Dau.
6) spend a night in Angeles.
7) take a trike or grab early in the morning to Dau bus station.
8) get on the bus to Cubao bus station.
9) get off and take the bus to Bantagas pier.
10) get ticket to Puerto Galera (the new pier); you can't go to Sabang no more.
11) get a trike to Sabang. Previously in front, they ask for 250. Walk halfway up the street and get it for 200.
12) party and have fun.
13) get trike (was 250; you can't negotiate with the trike mafia) and ferry back to Bantagas.
14) after leaving the ferry, take the bus to Cubao. The buses should be just to the left after you leave the terminal.
15) get off and hop on a bus to Dau.

In Bantagas and Cubao, you just get onto the correct bus, and you pay the conductor in the bus. Ask the staff at the bus stations. They have always been very helpful. Plus there's a sign on the windshield stating where they are going to.

You can skip the second leg of staying in Angeles if you leave really early from Olongapo. Maybe go to San Fernando, but I haven't done that.

[Old And Ugly]

So I came across this grab taxi fare calculator: https://www.taxifarefinder.com/main.php?city=GrabCar-Manila-Philippines.

It seems to think that getting a taxi from Subic to the Batangas Ferry Terminal is under 3 k PHP and takes something like 4. 5 hours.

Can this be accurate? The route seems to take the Manila Skyway so traffic reporting may actually be effectively predicting the travel time.Greenbud is right, 3 K is way too low, I would say if you take a taxi all the way, it will cost you around 10 k or more because the taxi will have to take the trip back empty. There is almost no travel time difference between the taxi and the bus on direct routes, they both go as fast as possible, and I think the bus is safer in case of an accident. If you're not comfortable doing the bus exchange in manila where is kind of a wild jungle, then do only angeles to batangas by taxi, or the hotel shuttle. And never plan your trip schedule too tight, in philippines nothing works according to the plan. Stay a night in angeles before going to batangas, so you can leave early in the morning because is not good to arrive late in batangas, there may be no more ferries for the day.

[KenjiYoshioka]

Travel time is accurate.

Price will be impossible to get (even if you pay the tolls).

Angeles hotel taxis will charge you around 3900 (tollways included) from the airport to Angeles. Maybe you can negotiate a slightly lower price with a normal taxi. But you still have to account for the Subic to Angeles / San Fernando and the Manila to Batangas portions. And most taxis will need to account for the return trip.

I hope I'm wrong and you can get those prices.

For an inexpensive vacation after you land in Clark, do the following:

1) spend a night or 2 in Angeles.
2) take a trike or Grab to Dau bus station.
3) take the bus to Olongapo. From around there you can take that large jeepney bus or trike to the Bario Baretto bar area.
4) party on.
5) take jeepney bus or trike to Olongapo bus station. Get bus to Dau.
6) spend a night in Angeles.
7) take a trike or grab early in the morning to Dau bus station.
8) get on the bus to Cubao bus station.
9) get off and take the bus to Bantagas pier.
10) get ticket to Puerto Galera (the new pier); you can't go to Sabang no more.
11) get a trike to Sabang. Previously in front, they ask for 250. Walk halfway up the street and get it for 200.
12) party and have fun.
13) get trike (was 250; you can't negotiate with the trike mafia) and ferry back to Bantagas.
14) after leaving the ferry, take the bus to Cubao. The buses should be just to the left after you leave the terminal.
15) get off and hop on a bus to Dau.

In Bantagas and Cubao, you just get onto the correct bus, and you pay the conductor in the bus. Ask the staff at the bus stations. They have always been very helpful. Plus there's a sign on the windshield stating where they are going to.

You can skip the second leg of staying in Angeles if you leave really early from Olongapo. Maybe go to San Fernando, but I haven't done that.The more I try to plan the more I think an itinerary more along these lines is smarter. Angeles City isn't at the top of my list, but spending a couple nights there should be pretty fun. Also, not rushing and accounting for the terrible traffic is the only successful strategy for navigating a country like the Philippines. Like sitting in Bangkok rush hour. Thankfully at least they have trains that aren't subject to traffic.

OldAndUgly. You are correct. Fortunately, I'm comfortable navigating bus stations. This should be fine. Plus I'll get a couple more days in AC to fuck around.

So I had a fun an interesting thought about what to do after Sabang. If I can take a bus from Puerto Galera to Roxas or Bulalacao, I could catch the ferry to Caticlan and go to Boracay next. There are several Roro Bus terminals on Mindoro, but I keep running into the same issue about finding a bus schedule. Thus, I have no idea if there's even a bus that goes there. I guess I could just take the ferry back to Batangas and then take a ferry to Caticlan Boracay if that doesn't seem feasible. Or take the ferry back to Batangas and then catch a flight from Manila to Caticlan.

[Mua Tur]

Travel time is accurate.

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7) take a trike or grab early in the morning to Dau bus station.
8) get on the bus to Cubao bus station.
......There are an alternate route for interested one. From Dau to Taft ave MRT station, manila, by Genesis Bus liner. A little ride to Buendia LRT station. Hop in Jam Liner for Batangas. Jam Liner is the cheapest ride for Batangas.

[PhilJoy]

I could catch the ferry to Caticlan and go to Boracay next. There are several Roro Bus terminals on Mindoro, but I keep running into the same issue about finding a bus schedule. Thus, I have no idea if there's even a bus that goes there.Hey Kenji _ Basically anything you search for online regarding bus schedules is outdated or unpredictable.

All you have to do is get yourself to a terminal where they depart from and go from there. They'll be cheap and get your arse / ass on the right bus by asking the locals or the driver and conductor waiting there to depart.

As for Boracay, you're better off flying from Manila. Cebu Pacific always has cheap options and you won't be losing heaps of time on the water.

Once there, you'll find quite a lot of sexy freelancers hanging around the beach at Station 2 near the nightclubs.

I generally offer them 1500 p to stay the night with me and a bonus of 500 p a shot.

They can take it or leave it and one will always accept the offer.

Additionally, you're setting the price and not them.

It's always a good opportunity to add one to your contact list so you've got one lined up for your next visit.

Just my experience _ Phil.

[KenjiYoshioka]

Hey Kenji _ Basically anything you search for online regarding bus schedules is outdated or unpredictable.

All you have to do is get yourself to a terminal where they depart from and go from there. They'll be cheap and get your arse / ass on the right bus by asking the locals or the driver and conductor waiting there to depart.

As for Boracay, you're better off flying from Manila. Cebu Pacific always has cheap options and you won't be losing heaps of time on the water.

Once there, you'll find quite a lot of sexy freelancers hanging around the beach at Station 2 near the nightclubs.

I generally offer them 1500 p to stay the night with me and a bonus of 500 p a shot.

They can take it or leave it and one will always accept the offer.

Additionally, you're setting the price and not them.

It's always a good opportunity to add one to your contact list so you've got one lined up for your next visit.

Just my experience _ Phil.I had been pondering the amount of travel time lost as I could be potentially spending it with hotties. Taking a domestic flight means I can hit the domestic terminal outside NAIA also if I'm not mistaken, and therefore I could avoid that hellhole altogether. If I can not set foot in NAIA this trip, I think I'll be much better off. Plus this means I won't have to frantically be looking for buses or vans to try to get from Puerto Galera to Roxas or Bulalacao in time to catch an afternoon ferry.

So my question then is this. Is Boracay worth it? My modus operandi has always been to look for "nice" girls (*cough* as if there was such a thing as a nice Pinay LOL!) to fuck for free and then maybe use professionals as a backup. I've literally never barfined a girl before in any country, and I usually do well enough. My understanding is that Boracay is more densely populated with pros than civilians when it comes to Pinays, but there are a good mess of tourists I could try my luck with.

P.S. I really like this mercenary 500 p / nut strategy, Phil. Talk about getting a LBFM horny for your nut. I find the idea of explaining to a girl on the beach that if she can make me CIM or CIP 5 times that she can get 4 k particularly funny, like asking your cat to solve the square root of something LOL! I can just see a girl in a bikini with her sunglasses on whipping out her phone to use the calculator app. XD.

[Old And Ugly]

I had been pondering the amount of travel time lost as I could be potentially spending it with hotties. Taking a domestic flight means I can hit the domestic terminal outside NAIA also if I'm not mistaken, and therefore I could avoid that hellhole altogether. If I can not set foot in NAIA this trip, I think I'll be much better off. Plus this means I won't have to frantically be looking for buses or vans to try to get from Puerto Galera to Roxas or Bulalacao in time to catch an afternoon ferry.

So my question then is this. Is Boracay worth it? My modus operandi has always been to look for "nice" girls (*cough* as if there was such a thing as a nice Pinay LOL!) to fuck for free and then maybe use professionals as a backup. I've literally never barfined a girl before in any country, and I usually do well enough. My understanding is that Boracay is more densely populated with pros than civilians when it comes to Pinays, but there are a good mess of tourists I could try my luck with.

P.S. I really like this mercenary 500 p / nut strategy, Phil. Talk about getting a LBFM horny for your nut. I find the idea of explaining to a girl on the beach that if she can make me CIM or CIP 5 times that she can get 4 k particularly funny, like asking your cat to solve the square root of something LOL! I can just see a girl in a bikini with her sunglasses on whipping out her phone to use the calculator app. XD.You got it wrong, boracay has only few pros, and lots of civilians, not the other way around. In the nearby past, there were no pros at all, only ladyboys. Last year I've been there 3 times, and I didn't see any pros hanging around anywhere.

[WestCoast1]

Taking a domestic flight means I can hit the domestic terminal outside NAIA also if I'm not mistaken, and therefore I could avoid that hellhole altogether. If I can not set foot in NAIA this trip, I think I'll be much better off. I might have misunderstood this. All four terminals are located on the same grounds. They are far enough apart that you must go outside and take a taxi or a shuttle bus from one terminal to the other. If you land in Manila, you are landing here (pic, approximate terminal locations).


P.S. I really like this mercenary 500 p / nut strategy, Phil. Talk about getting a LBFM horny for your nut. I find the idea of explaining to a girl on the beach that if she can make me CIM or CIP 5 times that she can get 4 k particularly funny, like asking your cat to solve the square root of something LOL! I can just see a girl in a bikini with her sunglasses on whipping out her phone to use the calculator app. XD.Have used similar strategies. Depending on location, you could start with a base pay of p500-1000, plus p500 for each pop. In the big city that might be p2000 (or more) + p500/ pop. Or similar. For example, she wants 3000 for ST, and you'd like to get at least 2 pops in for that much. You might tell her p2000 + 500 per pop. You might get lucky and find her trying to wring 3 pops out of you. The next day the hotel maid finds you crumpled on the CR floor, dead, a dried-out husk of the man you used to be. IF you were lucky.

[RainMania]

So I came across this grab taxi fare calculator: https://www.taxifarefinder.com/main.php?city=GrabCar-Manila-Philippines.

It seems to think that getting a taxi from Subic to the Batangas Ferry Terminal is under 3 k PHP and takes something like 4. 5 hours.

Can this be accurate? The route seems to take the Manila Skyway so traffic reporting may actually be effectively predicting the travel time.The most efficient and cost effective way to get to PG is via SiKat bus and ferry service. One way 1500 pesos inclusive of bus and ferry fee.

https://www.sikatferrybus.com/

I used to take Air Juan regularly till they decided to fuck their business up by taking payments from passengers online but then selling the same seats to Chinese passengers who turned up on the day for a higher price, and of course in true Filipino way the refund got lost somewhere in the ether. A potentially revolutionary service destroyed by greed and ineptitude. Covid hit them hard but the customer base they betrayed hit them even harder by not coming back once the country reopened.

Air Trav seems to be more of a corporate card (or private charter) service. I can't think of anyone who would be dumb enough to pay 10's of thousands of pesos (think 50 k+) on a one leg flight from Manila to PG out of pocket. As of now there's no reliably scheduled seaplane service I know of in PH that had the quality, scope and range that Air Juan had from 2017-2019.

[GreenBud]

You got it wrong, boracay has only few pros, and lots of civilians, not the other way around.OK. I agree with the above write-up from my experience during my 1 trip in 2022.

Along the beach boardwalk in Station 2, there is one club (outdoors; in front of the boardwalk; can't remember the name; you can't miss it around 8 or 9 pm) where there are a lot of tourist, free live music, and FLs along the boardwalk. It seems none of the FLs are in the club. I couldn't find any other areas; but I didn't look since I BYOG.

Are there anywhere else? It seems none has been reported on this board.

IMO, the only thing "good" about Borocay is the beach. There isn't much else.

[GreenBud]

The most efficient and cost effective way to get to PG is via SiKat bus and ferry service. One way 1500 pesos inclusive of bus and ferry fee.

https://www.sikatferrybus.com/Is it up and running? I guess so since the site is updated since it says Balatero Pier (in Sabang / Puerto Galaera).

I took that a few times.

One problem is that it is leaves Ermita (at City State Tower Hotel) in the morning. So you can't really get there if you leave from Angeles. Also, that bus (several years before Covid) was uncomfortable. It seems they never changed the shocks.

But if you want to visit LA Cafe (sketchy area) and go to Sabang/Puerto Galera, staying at City State Tower Hotel is good; it is walking distance from LA Cafe and the Ski Kat bus starts right in front of the hotel.

[RainMania]

Is it up and running? I guess so since the site is updated since it says Balatero Pier (in Sabang / Puerto Galaera).

I took that a few times.

One problem is that it is leaves Ermita (at City State Tower Hotel) in the morning. So you can't really get there if you leave from Angeles. Also, that bus (several years before Covid) was uncomfortable. It seems they never changed the shocks.

But if you want to visit LA Cafe and go to Sabang/Puerto Galera, staying at City State Tower Hotel is good; it is walking distance from LA Cafe and the Ski Kata bus starts right in front of the hotel.Yep. Up and running. Used it earlier this year.

It's fairly easy to get to the departure point from angeles. Hop on Genesis bus to NAIA from SM Clark (first bus is like 5 am and new bus ever hour after that), 90 min to 2 HR journey, then grab to Ermita. Total cost about 600 pesos. The sikat bus seemed fine to me.

[Old And Ugly]

OK. I agree with the above write-up from my experience during my 1 trip in 2022.

Along the beach boardwalk in Station 2, there is one club (outdoors; in front of the boardwalk; can't remember the name; you can't miss it around 8 or 9 pm) where there are a lot of tourist, free live music, and FLs along the boardwalk. It seems none of the FLs are in the club. I couldn't find any other areas; but I didn't look since I BYOG.

Are there anywhere else? It seems none has been reported on this board.

IMO, the only thing "good" about Borocay is the beach. There isn't much else.Right before covid was all dry, and there was a PR guy nicknamed "Bob Marley" hanging around 7/11, solving small problems for a few peso, he took me to one house located half way on the road to the other side of the island, there were 10-15 girls all in red dresses and a mamasan, all good looking. I took one to my hotel for 1. 5 k and by the smirk on the mamasan's face I realized that I was getting overcharged, but actually was a bargain for me. I don't know if that place still exists, but since they were servicing locals only, there should be something similar in existence since there is a demand and a supply. Last year when I went back there I observed the surroundings by default, but I didn't specifically look hard for any pros, because every time I had girls with me, first time two, second time one, and third time 3 of them which was too much. Now I live in a small place similar to Boracay and I know how things work, therefore if there are any FL around the night club, probably they are not locals, but girls coming there from a big city to make some money, therefore the lack of constant supply, I encountered the same situation in Malapasqua, girls from Cebu doing the weekend hook up tour.

[Goferring]

I arrived in CDO with a couple of buddies. There must have been a big function on somewhere as many hotels were full and could only give us one nights accommodation. I stayed at the Red Doors for one night then a condo in Centrio Towers for the rest of the stay. All well located, well priced and walking distance to everything I needed.

We asked around for where to go for entertainment and were directed to Corrales Ave. It's essentially a street of clubs and bars, all within walking distance of each other. It's makes a good area for a pub crawl. Jakals had a good live band and crowd. However all tables were groups of friends partying together. No roaming freelancers and it's not a pick up joint. Lots of eye candy but that's it. Most of the other bars in the street were much quieter, surprising for late on a Saturday night. An exception was FT Nightlife, a hole in the wall bar diagonally across the road from Jakals. Much busier than the other places, again with a friendly vibe but not a pickup joint.

Online with PinaLove proved a surprise with much fewer girls logged on at one time than I expected for a college town the size of CDO. It wasn't rare to only see a couple of girls online. Of those girls, there was the complete range of types. Some stunners milking sponsors for little return, some girls doing very short quickies between class and before mom finds out, some girls simply bored and chatting forever.

I met two of the shyest girls I have ever come across in my life. I'm not talking a little reserved. I'm talking voices so quiet that I had to lean 3/4 across the table just to be able to hear them. Obviously the first time that they had been anywhere near a foreigner. That went went nowhere, clearly far too uncomfortable to follow me back to the room. Other girls didn't work out for a few different reasons: 'buy me and the table of my friends drinks' girl; a 10 k a night girl; a girl who could only squeeze in a rushed quickly before running back to school.

All up, CDO was a good place for a night out but, for me, a mongering wash out. I'm sure more time spent here would deliver returns but it's time for me to move on.

Enjoy. G.

[WestCoast1]

All up, CDO was a good place for a night out but, for me, a mongering wash out. I'm sure more time spent here would deliver returns but it's time for me to move on.

Enjoy. G.I wrote a similar report a decade ago about CDO. Same experience. I was in town for a week. My first two days I spent at Starbucks, meeting girls for coffee dates that I'd lined up from DIA prior to arrival. All of them either blatantly said they'd come to my hotel after a coffee, or coyly said it. None of them followed through. I struck out with more than a dozen girls in just two days. Bunches of beauties walking around, but none available due to shyness. What provincial girls say in online chat prior to arrival often has nothing to do with their actual behavior.

[Goferring]

I wrote a similar report a decade ago about CDO. Same experience. I was in town for a week. My first two days I spent at Starbucks, meeting girls for coffee dates that I'd lined up from DIA prior to arrival. All of them either blatantly said they'd come to my hotel after a coffee, or coyly said it. None of them followed through. I struck out with more than a dozen girls in just two days. Bunches of beauties walking around, but none available due to shyness. What provincial girls say in online chat prior to arrival often has nothing to do with their actual behavior.To be fair, I was my worst enemy. I put in minimal effort and received minimal rewards:

I was in a college town but didn't do much to put myself in college girls' pathway. Walked everywhere, ate a high end malls, basically kept to myself etc. If I had eaten at Gaisano, jumped on Jeeps, struck up conversations etc it certainly wouldn't of hurt. I should have invested time into finding the boarding houses and surrounding cheap eateries.

CDO is full of students but many are far from broke students. One I met was doing her Medical internship at the local teaching hospital. Another was doing some sort of MBA lite. I didn't see or speak to anyone studying some bullshit tourism & catering certificate on how to fold napkins.

I also mistakenly brought my Cebu game to CDO which is essentially hit the internet and wait for the pussy to flow. Big mistake. BIG. CDO is very much meet and greet. Strike up conversations face to face and seek out the friends of friends. Obviously this takes time. Unfortunately my personality is that once I'm over a place, I move on even if logic says that more time would deliver rewards.

Cheers. G.

[KenjiYoshioka]

The most efficient and cost effective way to get to PG is via SiKat bus and ferry service. One way 1500 pesos inclusive of bus and ferry fee.

https://www.sikatferrybus.com/

I used to take Air Juan regularly till they decided to fuck their business up by taking payments from passengers online but then selling the same seats to Chinese passengers who turned up on the day for a higher price, and of course in true Filipino way the refund got lost somewhere in the ether. A potentially revolutionary service destroyed by greed and ineptitude. Covid hit them hard but the customer base they betrayed hit them even harder by not coming back once the country reopened.

Air Trav seems to be more of a corporate card (or private charter) service. I can't think of anyone who would be dumb enough to pay 10's of thousands of pesos (think 50 k+) on a one leg flight from Manila to PG out of pocket. As of now there's no reliably scheduled seaplane service I know of in PH that had the quality, scope and range that Air Juan had from 2017-2019.This is some very useful info. I think this is the missing piece to the puzzle.

GreenBud. Good to know about City State Tower Hotel. I wasn't planning on hitting LA Cafe, but I might just for the amusement now. Speaking of which, what is the likelihood I can find a nice civvie out in Boracay then? Tinder and PL work at all out there you think?

OldAndUgly. Same question as above about scoring civvies in Boracay. Is it possible to online game it up before my arrival there? Or am I looking at what they call OSP in the military (on-site procurement)? I'm not planning on BYOG anywhere this trip, especially not to party for 2 weeks in Boracay.

Geoffering. Sorry you struck out in CdO. The MO I was planning on employing in CdO was going to be similar. Glad you pointed this out as a potential mistake before I wasted 2 weeks there. Good lookin out.

[WestCoast1]

Disrupting this discussion of how to get off the beaten path, to bring you something small, and tight, 24, and off the beaten path.

[PhilJoy]

The most efficient and cost effective way to get to PG is via SiKat bus and ferry service. One way 1500 pesos inclusive of bus and ferry fee.Hi RM & Kenji.

I usually grab a cheap white cab from my hotel and get a Jam Liner bus from Buendia Bus Terminal to Batangas port for under 500 p. From there you can get a fast cat through to PG and then a trike to Sabang. I use the Si-Kat service to get back to Manila as there's a small little store in Sabang that organizes everything for you.

As for Boracay, I've done well there. Yes, there's FL action around station 2 on the beach, however my old trick of getting friendly with hotel staff has worked the best. I usually approach the security guys (after tipping them 50 p every time I arrive back at the hotel to build rapport) I just ask if they know where I can find a pretty girl and usually I'll have a hot friend or relative in my room within an hour for about 2000 p.

If you think outside the box, there's always a way and without spending all your time on dating sites _ A complete waste of time for me.

I'll be back in Boracay next year, but I'm taking a Sabang contact with me. I know I'll have to feed her, but she fucks like a demon and I give her 1500 p a day in 'spending money'.

Agreed RM, Boracay doesn't live up to the hype, but a decent beach location and sex on tap is a nice option compared to the smell of sewage and a hectic Manila.

Just my opinion _ Phil.

[JennyKk]

The most efficient and cost effective way to get to PG is via SiKat bus and ferry service. One way 1500 pesos inclusive of bus and ferry fee.

https://www.sikatferrybus.com/

I used to take Air Juan regularly till they decided to fuck their business up by taking payments from passengers online but then selling the same seats to Chinese passengers who turned up on the day for a higher price, and of course in true Filipino way the refund got lost somewhere in the ether. A potentially revolutionary service destroyed by greed and ineptitude. Covid hit them hard but the customer base they betrayed hit them even harder by not coming back once the country reopened.

Air Trav seems to be more of a corporate card (or private charter) service. I can't think of anyone who would be dumb enough to pay 10's of thousands of pesos (think 50 k+) on a one leg flight from Manila to PG out of pocket. As of now there's no reliably scheduled seaplane service I know of in PH that had the quality, scope and range that Air Juan had from 2017-2019.Go to PITX to take a bus to batangas then buy the ferry ticket to PG. I think this combination is cheaper and more flexible schedule.

[GreenBud]

GreenBud. Good to know about City State Tower Hotel. I wasn't planning on hitting LA Cafe, but I might just for the amusement now. Speaking of which, what is the likelihood I can find a nice civvie out in Boracay then? Tinder and PL work at all out there you think?There's a lot of Pinays in Borocay. But they will be there with their friends. I am assuming you can hit on them if you have game. For me, I don't want a relationship, nor do I want to give them that false impression. I think that is unethical. I would rather pay for it.

Never done online stuff in Asia. From what I'm reading, it seems I should.

[Old And Ugly]

This is some very useful info. I think this is the missing piece to the puzzle.

GreenBud. Good to know about City State Tower Hotel. I wasn't planning on hitting LA Cafe, but I might just for the amusement now. Speaking of which, what is the likelihood I can find a nice civvie out in Boracay then? Tinder and PL work at all out there you think?

OldAndUgly. Same question as above about scoring civvies in Boracay. Is it possible to online game it up before my arrival there? Or am I looking at what they call OSP in the military (on-site procurement)? I'm not planning on BYOG anywhere this trip, especially not to party for 2 weeks in Boracay.

Geoffering. Sorry you struck out in CdO. The MO I was planning on employing in CdO was going to be similar. Glad you pointed this out as a potential mistake before I wasted 2 weeks there. Good lookin out.I was there 3 times last year, but I was accompanied. I didn't see no pros, but some members reported some sightings next to station 2, the truth is I wasn't really looking for action, just observing. At one time I saw 3 of them sitting at a bar, I did recognize the specific eye contact protocol, but I wasn't sure if they were ladyboys or girls.

The civilians usually come in packs, never alone, but is possible to detach one from the group after some convincing work. I'm saying this because the first time there last year (actually was in December 22) I took with me my two regular gfs that I had back then, and sometimes they were hunting fresh new meat for us and we had 4 somes, (the gfs really like it, I guess they felt empowered, negotiating in my behalf) - while we were swimming, they started talking to this beautiful girl roaming around in a cristal kaiak, and they convinced her to come with us, and she did, but nothing really happened because while we were having a drink at the bar before the deed at the villa camilla where we were staying the pack came by and took the girl with them. So there you have it, with a little convincing you may get lucky with a civilian even if she's not alone, just take her away from her friends.

About the dating apps, I used them a lot in the past, but 50% are fakes and ladyboys, 25% scams and 25% real ones. Of the 25% real ones 20% are pros and about 5% real girls trying their luck online. But I don't suggest contacting any before you get there, you may waste your time. For me using the dating app and getting results was always a bonus. If the pics are sexy then you may ask directly how much because she's a pro guaranteed.

Two weeks may become a little boring in boracay, not much there beside the beautiful beach, restaurants, couples watching the stunning sunsets, and a few thousand koreans. (some windsurfing going on on the other side of the island also).

[Goferring]

Just arrived in Davao and let me tell you Daddy is home!! Pussy everywhere. Jumped online and the inbox quickly filled with opportunities. Sure 95% are going to flake, have to brush their cat's teeth or be otherwise unavailable but odds are still looking good.

A couple of minor hiccups but not insurmountable:

Stepped off the bus to find my inbox pinging with 'can I come over?' offers. FROM GIRLS BACK IN CDO!! Fuck!! Looks like I did leave too soon.

An epic rant in how fucked up staying at Avida is. I thought a nice place, in a good location, impress the good girls. Played it safe booking double occupancy. WRONG!! No visitors allowed. None! Not only after 10 pm. Never! Only people included on the Guest Register are allowed. Forget any 11th hour hookups online. Ain't going to happen. Only one Guest Register. Can't add strays. Special rules for Airbnb.

I'm walking away from my booking and checking out tomorrow morning. Fuck Airbnb and fuck Avida.

Enjoy. G.

[Goferring]

To DC,

Buddy, not my usual target profile but I'm taking one for the team just for you.

Pray for me. 😜.

[Goferring]

Just arrived in Davao and let me tell you Daddy is home!! Pussy everywhere..Please disregard the above post. I was drunk and it is full of typos and factual errors.

There are no girls in Davao. Anywhere. It's a pussy waste land. Last week I begged for a BJ from a 87 yo grandma. She just laughed at me. It's that bad. Avoid the place at all costs.

Mindanao is incredibly dangerous. I was stabbed and beheaded 27 times yesterday walking to 7/11.

I will stay to spread The Word but you don't need to come. Tell your friends to stay away too.

I'll do it all myself

Apologies. G.

[Aml3740]

Please disregard the above post. I was drunk and it is full of typos and factual errors.

There are no girls in Davao. Anywhere. It's a pussy waste land. Last week I begged for a BJ from a 87 yo grandma. She just laughed at me. It's that bad. Avoid the place at all costs.

Mindanao is incredibly dangerous. I was stabbed and beheaded 27 times yesterday walking to 7/11.

I will stay to spread The Word but you don't need to come. Tell your friends to stay away too.

I'll do it all myself

Apologies. G.In all seriousness, most people don't realize how safe Mindanao is. All they remember is hearing about Muslim rebels and natives that would kill you on sight. This may have been partly true 30 years ago, but it is super safe now, for the most part. There are still isolated areas with NPA, just like everywhere else in the Philippines, but that is pretty much it. I was in Gensan and then up in the mountains way off the beaten path (if you can call what we took to get there a road even), and it was probably the safest place I have ever been in my entire life. Just keep uour nose in your own business, and you will be fine.

[KenjiYoshioka]

Just arrived in Davao and let me tell you Daddy is home!! Pussy everywhere. Jumped online and the inbox quickly filled with opportunities. Sure 95% are going to flake, have to brush their cat's teeth or be otherwise unavailable but odds are still looking good.

A couple of minor hiccups but not insurmountable:

Stepped off the bus to find my inbox pinging with 'can I come over?' offers. FROM GIRLS BACK IN CDO!! Fuck!! Looks like I did leave too soon.

An epic rant in how fucked up staying at Avida is. I thought a nice place, in a good location, impress the good girls. Played it safe booking double occupancy. WRONG!! No visitors allowed. None! Not only after 10 pm. Never! Only people included on the Guest Register are allowed. Forget any 11th hour hookups online. Ain't going to happen. Only one Guest Register. Can't add strays. Special rules for Airbnb.

I'm walking away from my booking and checking out tomorrow morning. Fuck Airbnb and fuck Avida.

Enjoy. G.So it may not be readily apparent just how valuable this information is, but this is really some gold here. If you're just now getting offers from chicks back in CdO, then the environment there is such that it takes a significant amount of time to work up the market to bed worthwhile girls. If you're only going to stay there for a couple of weeks, it's not good. If you're planning on staying there for months or having a home there you can stay at part of the time, that's another thing. I liken this to going to Colombia. Chicks there will run game on you all day long, and you have to weather some stormy seas to get good repeat sex with the real hotties there. That of course takes time. I for one don't like to spend lots of time chasing chicks. I'd prefer to go someplace where the options are mine to explore, and bitches don't play games like that. Sure in the PI 95% of the girls are just going to ghost you at the last minute, but that 5% is still a pretty plentiful font of pussy.

Also fuck Avida and fuck AirBnB. They've become increasingly bad over the last several years. I had one asshole host try to charge me like $1 kUSD for smoking in a unit that I didn't smoke in. Yes, you read that right.

Thus the question becomes: is finding girl friendly places in Davao an issue? I was more under the impression that in the PI people expect other people to have guests of the opposite sex for their own personal business. I guess this isn't as universal in southern Mindanao? I can only imagine what it's like in GenSan then.

[LoveItHere69]

In all seriousness, most people don't realize how safe Mindanao is. Really really depends on what area.

Roughly 11 years ago I took a bus from General Santos (few street girls) to Illigan (many street girls). I decided to stop in Cotabato City which was mid way. 1 pm and their bus stations was scary. No buses, 3 small portable vendors, no people, nothing there. Why because nobody goes there. Never seen anything like that before in the Philippines. Had to take the only trike left who had his buddy with him. They tried to take a short cut to avoid traffic. I told him to take the straight path. Dropped me off at McDonalds with the police station a block away. He tried to say it was extra because blah blah blah. I gave him a small tip told him the police station is right there and I will be inside eating. The town shuts down at 8 pm. My hotel shut their main metal garage door in front and there is a security guard outside. You are not expected to go out at night.

Found a street girl. Did her at some ST hotel. It was ok. Wanted to try another and in the ST room she was aggressive and in a rush and felt it was time to go. No clothes taken off yet. She grabbed my junk and my back pocket at the same time like a pro and got the 150 pisos in my back pocket. Ran out the door.

My spider senses were tingling in that town as soon as I got off the bus there. First time that ever happened. I knew something bad was going to happen. I left the next morning at 9 am. Two years later that city had a mini civil war in town or something.

This is from 2 years ago. Nothing has changed in that city that I visited years ago.

https://www.philstar.com/nation/2022/10/08/2215221/tension-troubled-cotabato-town-worsening

[Old And Ugly]

In all seriousness, most people don't realize how safe Mindanao is. All they remember is hearing about Muslim rebels and natives that would kill you on sight. This may have been partly true 30 years ago, but it is super safe now, for the most part. There are still isolated areas with NPA, just like everywhere else in the Philippines, but that is pretty much it. I was in Gensan and then up in the mountains way off the beaten path (if you can call what we took to get there a road even), and it was probably the safest place I have ever been in my entire life. Just keep uour nose in your own business, and you will be fine.One of my exes was from Marawi City, and she said I should stay away from everything west of there, don't trust the stories about how safe it is for foreigners. Anyway there is enough to explore in the rest of the Philippines, but somehow I feel the itch to go there and go island hopping all the way to Malaysia.

[Goferring]

So it may not be readily apparent just how valuable this information is, but this is really some gold here. If you're just now getting offers from chicks back in CdO, then the environment there is such that it takes a significant amount of time to work up the market to bed worthwhile girls. If you're only going to stay there for a couple of weeks, it's not good. If you're planning on staying there for months or having a home there you can stay at part of the time, that's another thing......

Also fuck Avida and fuck AirBnB. They've become increasingly bad over the last several years. I had one asshole host try to charge me like $1 kUSD for smoking in a unit that I didn't smoke in. Yes, you read that right.

Thus the question becomes: is finding girl friendly places in Davao an issue? I was more under the impression that in the PI people expect other people to have guests of the opposite sex for their own personal business. I guess this isn't as universal in southern Mindanao? I can only imagine what it's like in GenSan then.If we are talking specifically of CDO, my stay was days not weeks or months so, yes, you are correct. The only reason for a first visit to be for a week or less is to be doing something else and try your luck on the side. It's simply not worth it as a mongering trip. However, if you have considerably more time or are making return trip (s) then that changes totally. I'm trying to work out how to make my Mindanao exit via a few days return to the north

Fuck Avida and fuck Airbnb has nothing to do with being girl friendly. The same rules would apply to your 87 yo grandfather. I just happened to want to bring in girls not grandparents.

I did see girls going in and a online girl said that she just walks in without lodging IDs etc to a friend's condo so the rules are clearly totally different for owner occupiers and private leases. I don't know the details as I wasn't staying long enough to find out. 18 hours and I was out of there.

I've never had a hotel in Davao reject my guest. I think you would have to look hard to find one.

Cheers. G.

[RainMania]

If we are talking specifically of CDO, my stay was days not weeks or months so, yes, you are correct. The only reason for a first visit to be for a week or less is to be doing something else and try your luck on the side. It's simply not worth it as a mongering trip. However, if you have considerably more time or are making return trip (s) then that changes totally. I'm trying to work out how to make my Mindanao exit via a few days return to the north

Fuck Avida and fuck Airbnb has nothing to do with being girl friendly. The same rules would apply to your 87 yo grandfather. I just happened to want to bring in girls not grandparents.

I did see girls going in and a online girl said that she just walks in without lodging IDs etc to a friend's condo so the rules are clearly totally different for owner occupiers and private leases. I don't know the details as I wasn't staying long enough to find out. 18 hours and I was out of there.

I've never had a hotel in Davao reject my guest. I think you would have to look hard to find one.

Cheers. G.This has happened to me even in Manila Airbnb's. A quick call to the owner and the uptight security guard suddenly lost face and had to accept every single one of my non-registered guests. These days I always make sure to let the owner know before booking that I will sometimes have friends visiting or staying over, no more than 2 at a time. No owner has said no so far, but I've seen some airbnb hosts say in their listings they won't accept unmarried couples to book LOL.

[WestCoast1]

This has happened to me even in Manila Airbnb's. A quick call to the owner and the uptight security guard suddenly lost face and had to accept every single one of my non-registered guests. These days I always make sure to let the owner know before booking that I will sometimes have friends visiting or staying over, no more than 2 at a time. No owner has said no so far, but I've seen some airbnb hosts say in their listings they won't accept unmarried couples to book LOL.During the dying part of Covid, when the country should have called it quits on the covid rules (probably 2022), I ran into similar issues with pinoy owners. Probably due to superstition and general fear of covid, unit owners and hosts in the airbnb umbrella started making odd (and technically wrong) decisions regarding who could be in their unit. In a year's time in the 2022-23 timeframe, I ran into half a dozen owners who surprised me (after moving in) with their own even stricter rules on guests. All of which violates airbnb's owners terms. I would rent the place for 2 people, and register only myself. The first owner was in Knightsbridge, and after showing me the router password and how to operate the TV, said to me upon departure: "Oh. And of course no guests. You registered just yourself". Whoa, toots! I just register guests with the guard. I won't have more than 1 guest at at time. "No. Not so. I am the owner. No guests". Does it say that in your airbnb description? "No. And I don't care. You can leave if you don't want to stay here. No refund"! OK. I sent a quick msg to airbnb after she left, and later the same evening came angry txts from the lady. She then knocked on the door. "OK. Have your guests! And I will change my description". She came all the way over from wherever she lived to say that. I went downstairs to ask the guards the procedure. "Like before Westy. Have the girl give her ID and sign in. That's it". The owner had made up her own rule even stricter than KB.

Another owner in a nearby condo pulled the same prank. Good sir, is that the admin policy of this residence? "Of course it is. This is covid". Can we walk downstairs and check with admin? "No. I don't care what admin says". He departed, and I checked with admin. "No, you can bring in guests. Sign in with the guard. We stopped doing that". I brought my guests in, and notified airbnb anyway.

OTOH, when the hotel or residence admin had rules against guest visits, nobody budged on that. One owner buffaloed me rather well. I rented airbnb. When I showed up he had me meet him at a store nearby. He drove me to the residence, and past the guard shack and into the parking structure. As we got near the shack he had me lay down in the rear seat. "Don't let the guard see you". Why not? "No new rentals. You aren't registered here". What! "It will be ok". WTF? "Stay inside the unit. Try not to go outside much. Use Food Panda. NO GUESTS". F*ck! None of that is in your airbnb description, nor in our multiple airbnb messages. "Its covid. You are lucky to be here". He is not pinoy. I msg'd airbnb asking a 50% refund, as my guests could not come in, and other complaints, and finally I received a 40% refund.

Since mid-2023, no problems of any kind. Go's is the first I've heard of.

[Goferring]

This has happened to me even in Manila Airbnb's. A quick call to the owner and the uptight security guard suddenly lost face and had to accept every single one of my non-registered guests. ....Just for clarity my "rules" were from the owners' agent. They managed about 100 units with the same conditions.

G.

[D Cups]

To DC,

Buddy, not my usual target profile but I'm taking one for the team just for you.

Pray for me.Attaboy, G!

[WestCoast1]

Perhaps the wrong forum, but since we are discussing airbnb here, an oddity. Since I got my SRRV, I have been rejected by several different condo owners / hosts, for showing my SRRV ID in the airbnb messages. Always when I've rented airbnb, after paying for the unit, the owner will ask for some form of ID. Previous to getting my Phil's drivers license, I sent my PP page, and that was enough. Then I sent my drivers license pic (front and back), and a pic of me holding the driver's license one day (during covid). The owner asked me to send my PP. Instead, I sent my SRRV ID. The owner then requested both my PP picture page and the page of the last entry stamp. I asked why he needed so many ID's. Without explaining, he asked to see my most recent visa extension. I explained that I hadn't extended in many months as I was now SRRV, and extensions were no longer required. "Never seen this srrv thing before. I think its not real. Send your most recent visa extension". I sent it (more than 6 months expired). He informed me that he would not rent to me, that he would send this information to the BI, and that I would be deported. "I don't rent to overstayer". I asked him to both contact the BI, and to google the SRRV to see that its real. He refused. To add injury to insult, you may have to file a complaint with airbnb to get your rental money back (took about 4 weeks).

[Goferring]

The morning was a taken up with dealing with the agent and checking out of Avida. I then walked the 100 yards to the new hotel. Very Red Dorz-esque, I had a PhilJoy moment and worried that such a basic room would deter girls. Of course, this was incorrect as the room, although basic, is 50 x better than what they have at home.

Mid-morning I met an online girl who had agreed to meet for a coffee before sealing the deal. Unfortunately, she was a major drop from her filtered pics but still doable. A Jollie meal and she was in the taxi back to the room but she made murmurs about not wanting to go with a married man. I wasn't terribly worried due to her looks and only 179 peso invested. I jumped out at the hotel and she went on her separate way. Half an hour later I received frantic messages that, surprise surprise, she had dropped her pocket book, it had 2 k in it, desperately needed for her rent no less. I just ignored her.

At 4 pm I met the 20 yo hottie in my other post.

At 9 pm met another that was going to come up to the Avida. In person she definitely was not fuckable. A light snack to be polite and she mentioned that her phone has broken. You can imagine my surprise. It's getting late and after the hottie debacle, I just couldn't be bothered. 'how about a BJ for 1000? Oh the shock: How could I think of her that way; She would never do such a thing; Can I make it 2 k? No I can't. She is in a taxi back home from the cafe. I've dodged a bullet enabling the next meet up.

1 am 31 yo mentioned in my other post.

Quite an eventful day.

G.

[Goferring]

Battle of the generations.

This is an abridged version of yesterday. A full version will come next in another post.

WARNING: NOT FOR THE WEAK STOMACHED.

At 4 pm I organised a cutie to come over from Pina Love. In person she was actually far cuter than her pics: 21 yo; as tall as me in her heels; full and firm CC cups; a cute smile and; full of apologies that her drum tight body had blown out to 47 kgs /105 lbs. There wasn't an ounce of fat in that 105 due to being on the swim team and a regular at the gym.

The deal was no rush and plenty of fun until she needed to go home at 9 pm. Fees weren't mentioned but it was a given that she wouldn't go home empty handed.

Polite and cheerful conversation preceded getting naked and the fun starting. I cannot overstate how gorgeous her body was in the flesh. Fun sized tits that were firm and playsized. Chocolate brown skin that was tight and undamaged by kids. And, of course a pussy that was tight and inviting.

Private G was as hard as a rock and ready to play. Her body was thoroughly enjoyed in numerous positions. However, it soon became apparent that the little man was up for the journey but couldn't reach the destination. Despite the enjoyment, despite the beauty despite the best of intentions, this journey was not going to finish. No point in dragging it on forever, we had a break. Some light fondling, a rest and let things calm down a little. Little G was soon up and ready for action again so the fun restarted. Again, I was hard as a rock, everyone had the best of intentions and was doing their best but things were starting to drag on too long. Her feelings moved from 'this could be fun' to 'this can finish when ever you want'. Even I was thinking 'I'm here for enjoyment not just chopping wood'.

I was a mixture of disappointment and frankly embarrassment. Of all the times to go south, why with this beauty?? She was polite, didn't say anything negative but it's definitely not going into her book of most memorable sessions.

We called it quits after 90 minutes, I paid her 2 k, she showered and went home.

Much later in the night, I was bored and surfing Pina Love and someone tagged me. At 31, she was outside my age range anyway and I would have never even seen her otherwise. Older, but not too hard on the eyes, we struck up a conversation and ended up with 'would you be angry if I asked you to come over now? It was nearly 1 am. 20 minutes later she was in the room. 31 years old, she had clearly looked after herself. However, did she have 21 yo looks? No. Did she have drum tight abs? No, a 3 year old daughter ended that. Did she have a hurdler's ass? No. But she did have a devil streak in her eyes. When I said that we can just rest, have some fun tonight and I'll cum in the morning, she just smirked at me. She literally laughed. As if to say there won't be any of that sillyness here tonight. If I fuck you, you are going to cum.

Let me say, she fucked me in every position imaginable, in every square inch of the room, bathroom and toilet alternating between slow and steady and furious passion. When the time came, I blew so hard I though my head was imploding.

Half way through the night I wake up hard and we go at it again. Clearly the ex babydaddy was a bit freaky as she saw the bottle of lube on the bedside cabinet and looked at me inquisitively, silently asking 'should we? I'm thinking either she's dry or it's time for some anal and nod. Well, I was wrong. Within seconds she has a big glob in her hand and is then pegging me with the bottle while I'm fucking her. Now I'm not gay but having random items stuffed up your ass rapidly focusses the attention. She's writhing wildly, I'm fucking her as hard as I can go while getting pegged with every stroke. Another mind altering climax and I just collapse a shivering wreck. Another shower and comatose sleep.

Late morning we are both drifting in and out of sleep. I notice she has my dick in her hand and is slowly rubbing her Bush. I'm soon rock hard again and, you guessed it, we are at it. Much more sedate this time, she ends up lying beneath me legs closed, totally prone. This tightened everything up and definitely enhanced the sense of feeling. A true champ, she managed to get blood from a stone a third time.

I get up for a shower and there is bedding, clothes and a collapsed wardrobe everywhere. Christ what a mess. The sheets are utterly destroyed. I have a shower to wake up and when I return from the bathroom, it hits me. The pungent smell of raw sex everywhere. It's a stew of every bodily fluid imaginable radiating throughout the room. Sweat, cum, pussy juices, probably drops of blood and shit as well.

She has a quick shower, dresses as a grade school librarian, politely accepts 2 k and leaves as if nothing unusual happened.

I guess mama really showed the cool kids how it's done.

Enjoy. G.

[PhilJoy]

At 31, she was outside my age range anyway and I would have never even seen her otherwise. Older, but not too hard on the eyes, we struck up a conversation and ended up with 'would you be angry if I asked you to come over now? It was nearly 1 am. 20 minutes later she was in the room. When I said that we can just rest, have some fun tonight and I'll cum in the morning, she just smirked at me. She literally laughed. As if to say there won't be any of that sillyness here tonight. If I fuck you, you are going to cu

I guess mama really showed the cool kids how it's done.

Enjoy. G.Awesome report G.

I have a pretty 44 year old contact in Sabang close to my age group with an amazing little body and tits, a stunning pussy and she's actually become a good friend. Not to mention, she's probably one of the best bedroom gymnasts I've ever been with in the Phils.

I tip her 1500 - 2000 a day, or if I'm in Sabang for a while, 500 for each time I cum, and boy, does she go to work with that incentive!

Absolutely agree. The cool kids don't really know how to 'put out' like their experienced mamas.

The older girls are professionals and value repeat 'customers' who will return over time. The young ones just try and grab the cash and run. And honestly, they can be lazy and provide a disappointing 'service' in the process compared to some of the older girls.

The older girls can be amazing in the sack.

Just my experience _ Phil.