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TwentyTwoTwos
09-25-24, 19:11
Just arrived in Davao and let me tell you Daddy is home!! Pussy everywhere. Jumped online and the inbox quickly filled with opportunities. Sure 95% are going to flake, have to brush their cat's teeth or be otherwise unavailable but odds are still looking good.
A couple of minor hiccups but not insurmountable:
Stepped off the bus to find my inbox pinging with 'can I come over?' offers. FROM GIRLS BACK IN CDO!! Fuck!! Looks like I did leave too soon.
An epic rant in how fucked up staying at Avida is. I thought a nice place, in a good location, impress the good girls. Played it safe booking double occupancy. WRONG!! No visitors allowed. None! Not only after 10 pm. Never! Only people included on the Guest Register are allowed. Forget any 11th hour hookups online. Ain't going to happen. Only one Guest Register. Can't add strays. Special rules for Airbnb.
I'm walking away from my booking and checking out tomorrow morning. Fuck Airbnb and fuck Avida.
Enjoy. G.So the first time I was in Manila I must've really lucked out I chose an airbnb without a strict guest policy at all. I would've brought in anyone I wanted. I learned that's def not always the case when I got hit with so many rules and restrictions for my second visit. Practically all the places I looked up / checked in had a no guest policy. Never using airbnb again. Why did you even consider airbnb / avida?
KenjiYoshioka
09-25-24, 20:06
Battle of the generations.
Private G was as hard as a rock and ready to play. Her body was thoroughly enjoyed in numerous positions. However, it soon became apparent that the little man was up for the journey but couldn't reach the destination. Despite the enjoyment, despite the beauty despite the best of intentions, this journey was not going to finish. No point in dragging it on forever, we had a break. Some light fondling, a rest and let things calm down a little. Little G was soon up and ready for action again so the fun restarted. Again, I was hard as a rock, everyone had the best of intentions and was doing their best but things were starting to drag on too long. Her feelings moved from 'this could be fun' to 'this can finish when ever you want'. Even I was thinking 'I'm here for enjoyment not just chopping wood'.
I was a mixture of disappointment and frankly embarrassment. Of all the times to go south, why with this beauty?? She was polite, didn't say anything negative but it's definitely not going into her book of most memorable sessions.
We called it quits after 90 minutes, I paid her 2 k, she showered and went home.
Enjoy. G.It happens to us all from time to time. Even those most experienced among us get a little choked up when we find something we really like. I dare say you either found something you really wanted to repeat with many times over, or she said something to you that made you like her as a person. Just remember the one rule: don't catch feelings for a *****, especially if you're paying her for pussy.
TwentyTwoTwos
09-26-24, 05:55
So the first time I was in Manila I must've really lucked out I chose an airbnb without a strict guest policy at all. I would've brought in anyone I wanted. I learned that's def not always the case when I got hit with so many rules and restrictions for my second visit. Practically all the places I looked up / checked in had a no guest policy. Never using airbnb again. Why did you even consider airbnb / avida?I would like to add the airbnbs in angeles city gave me no issues LOL.
.....Never using airbnb again. Why did you even consider airbnb / avida?Clearly, because I'm an idiot. Trust me it will never happen again.
G.
P.S. I too have a history of successful Airbnb bookings but it was years ago and definitely pre Covid.
G.
...Just remember the one rule: don't catch feelings for a *****, especially if you're paying her for pussy.I'm lucky that I'm pretty in tune with my feelings there.
I don't fall in love but I have definitely been kunt struck in the past. Luckily, I do know the difference.
G.
WestCoast1
09-26-24, 06:37
So the first time I was in Manila I must've really lucked out I chose an airbnb without a strict guest policy at all. I would've brought in anyone I wanted. I learned that's def not always the case when I got hit with so many rules and restrictions for my second visit. Practically all the places I looked up / checked in had a no guest policy. Never using airbnb again. Why did you even consider airbnb / avida?I think it would depend greatly on when you were visiting. Pre-covid, there were virtually no restrictions on guests, either from the residence or the owner. During covid, obviously everything changed. From covid-start of early 2020, thru 2021, you were going to be shut down on guests almost anywhere, and that included many hotels. Some hotels even went to 1 guest per room policies, so if you showed up with your wife, she had to have a separate room. Some of this continued into 2022, and there is even some holdover today (see Avida). In Go's case, its the particular Avida residence' policy, as I have a mate in an Avida Tower in another city that has not had any problems for well over a year. Also there is no clear dividing time when the country dropped its rules. Various residences started quietly dropping their covid restrictions at different times. Does your upcoming trip residence still adhere to such silliness? Calling the Admin is the only way to find out for sure.
Some of the shit I have to put up with on tour:
Lucy Samal Dvo: Have you try threesome or gangbang?
Gofering: Why? Do you want to try?
Gofering: You are a girl, yes??
Lucy Samal Dvo: Yes I am.
Lucy Samal Dvo: I want.
Gofering: I'm. Ok with that.
Do you mean you and many guys or me and many girls?
Lucy Samal Dvo: Guys.
Gofering: Aaah. That might be difficult to organise. All my friends are married and their wives are here. They would kill them if they found out😳.
Gofering: You understand how a gangbang works, right? You would have a dick everywhere. In your pussy, mouth and ass. At the same time. You ok to try that?
Lucy Samal Dvo: Sure.
Lucy Samal Dvo: But with who?
Gofering: You want guys or toys?
Gofering: That's the difficult one. Lots will promise but very very few actually do it.
Lucy Samal Dvo: Up to you.
Gofering: What's up to me??
Lucy Samal Dvo: You & Toys.
Gofering: Ok. If it's just me, then I'm happy to fuck you everywhere with toys.
Gofering: If I can organise friends we will gangbang. But I can't promise. Actually very unlikely to actually happen.
Lucy Samal Dvo: Your friends is married hehe.
Gofering: Of course. That's the problem.
Lucy Samal Dvo: Why you tell your friends if they all married.
Gofering: I can ask if they want to. But I don't think they will do it in Davao.
Lucy Samal Dvo: Hahah I see.
Lucy Samal Dvo: I don't want to get trouble.
Lucy Samal Dvo: Ask your some friends then let me know.
Lucy Samal Dvo: I don't want to get trouble.
Lucy Samal Dvo: do you have a friend naughty like you?
Gofering: Ok. I'll ask guys whose wife is not in davao.
Gofering: Guys are not the problem. All will fuck you, no worries.
Problem is if the wife is from here she will find out.
Lucy Samal Dvo: Ah better you fuck me haha.
Gofering: Need to find friend whose wife is not davaoena.
Gofering: I'll ask but you are probably right.
Gofering: If you want to be fucked all holes, I can bring toys.
Lucy Samal Dvo: Then toys hehe.
Gofering: Ok. I'm fine with that.
Guys, don't worry about me. It's ok. I'll battle through.
Enjoy. G
I was there 3 times last year, but I was accompanied. I didn't see no pros, but some members reported some sightings next to station 2, the truth is I wasn't really looking for action, just observing. At one time I saw 3 of them sitting at a bar, I did recognize the specific eye contact protocol, but I wasn't sure if they were ladyboys or girls.
The civilians usually come in packs, never alone, but is possible to detach one from the group after some convincing work. I'm saying this because the first time there last year (actually was in December 22) I took with me my two regular gfs that I had back then, and sometimes they were hunting fresh new meat for us and we had 4 somes, (the gfs really like it, I guess they felt empowered, negotiating in my behalf) - while we were swimming, they started talking to this beautiful girl roaming around in a cristal kaiak, and they convinced her to come with us, and she did, but nothing really happened because while we were having a drink at the bar before the deed at the villa camilla where we were staying the pack came by and took the girl with them. So there you have it, with a little convincing you may get lucky with a civilian even if she's not alone, just take her away from her friends..It looks like PH girls not only indulge in BB but are quite open and ready to3- or 4-somes than other Asian nationalities.
It looks like PH girls not only indulge in BB but are quite open and ready to3- or 4-somes than other Asian nationalities.Hi Bionic, I'm not too sure about that from personal experience.
It's the old three's a crowd thing when you can have the alternative of one-on-one action with a great girl.
Although the thought of bedding multiple girls at once is pretty hot, I've just found they spread the workload and the effort diminishes. Basically they're working for each other and I've found they collude to get the most cash out of you as a team and try to sell the whole threesome thing as a five star event.
And as soon as one pulls out their cell phone to take a message, the other one / s will too. And then you know they're not devoted to the paying customer _ You.
The girls are experts in sales and good luck to them. But if you're paying for services in the Phils and it turns out to be shit, there's no option to leave a one star Google review.
Keep in mind, that's just been my experience on quite a few occasions, but it depends on the the situation.
Personally, I wouldn't barfine multiple girls in case it turns to shit. But if you know a girl outside of the bar scene and she offers to invite a friend for some extra cash, take the chance and see where it takes you.
Those occasions have been very rewarding and at a good rate of 1500 per girl.
_ Phil.
It looks like PH girls not only indulge in BB but are quite open and ready to3- or 4-somes than other Asian nationalities.Moresomes would easily be the most over promised and under delivered activity in the Philippines. It doesn't matter if that is in bars, on line or privately.
Guys need to be 100% upfront with their precise definition of a 3 some and be prepared to bail at the slightest chance of false promises.
To improve the odds: guy picks a girl known to do 3 somes; full and frank discussion on who will be fucking who and how; she recommends a partner which he accepts or declines.
Even then the odds are not good.
Good luck. G.
WestCoast1
09-26-24, 16:59
Moresomes would easily be the most over promised and under delivered activity in the Philippines. It doesn't matter if that is in bars, on line or privately.
Guys need to be 100% upfront with their precise definition of a 3 some and be prepared to bail at the slightest chance of false promises.
To improve the odds: guy picks a girl known to do 3 somes; full and frank discussion on who will be fucking who and how; she recommends a partner which he accepts or declines.
Even then the odds are not good.Concur. The ideal 3-some situation for a guy is that he can go back and forth, sexing each girl at will, all in one session (ala porn). However in Phils, the girls will not be into any of that. They will not allow you to put your uncovered schwanztooga back / forth into their poonana and the other girl's poonana. And no Poon-2-Mouth swapping either. You will end up effing girl #1 to completion, while girl #2 hides in the bathroom (too shy to watch). After you shower and rest, you get to bang #2, while #1 hides in the bathroom. If they don't hide in the CR, the unencumbered girl will sit in a chair facing away from the action, buried in FB. Its quite different than what most guys envision it in their head.
Of all the 3 somes I've done in PH, only a handful have been the proper PSE ones. Most 3 somes as others have said were what I like to coin the Angeles 3 some (one girl hides in the bathroom or sits on the sofa while the other one gets porked). Once I figured out my system though, it hasn't failed me so far.
It's fairly easy to suss out girls promising 3 somes in order to get them and their friend barfined. All you have to do is ask them to kiss each other in exchange for LD, that first step alone will eliminate 80% of the bullshitters. The ones brave enough to follow through are then subjected to test level 2, fondle each other (including hands in pants) while kissing, this time in exchange for 2 LD each. At this point the remaining 20% bow out. This method has not failed me since 2018 in the bars.
For girls outside the bar, only the ones I've met with multiple times and have good rapport with can even begin to maybe generate my interest in the possibility of a 3 some these days, with an explicitly stated promise from me I'll stop seeing her if she ends up roping me into an angeles 3 some. Hasn't failed me so far.
LoveItHere69
09-26-24, 20:23
Best chance is to find 2 bi-sexual chicks that are dating each other but willing to let you join them. You guys keep trying to add the girl. You need to try adding yourself to what already exists between them.
Old And Ugly
09-26-24, 20:32
Concur. The ideal 3-some situation for a guy is that he can go back and forth, sexing each girl at will, all in one session (ala porn). However in Phils, the girls will not be into any of that. They will not allow you to put your uncovered schwanztooga back / forth into their poonana and the other girl's poonana. And no Poon-2-Mouth swapping either. You will end up effing girl #1 to completion, while girl #2 hides in the bathroom (too shy to watch). After you shower and rest, you get to bang #2, while #1 hides in the bathroom. If they don't hide in the CR, the unencumbered girl will sit in a chair facing away from the action, buried in FB. Its quite different than what most guys envision it in their head.Yes, long time ago it happened to me too, and not only in the Philippines, but I learned my lesson, and worked out the kinks.
I'm going to share with all, this old's pervert method. First of all, there are no cell phones allowed, and there is a clear explanation of what's going to happen once you're in the room.
The first girl you pick and agrees to the terms will have to pick the second one, one that you both like, and talk to her about the deed, sometimes will be one from the same bar, sometimes from another bar where she's not known, depending on her approach. Maybe you'll have to spend on few lady drinks for few different girls if the interview with the second one doesn't go well.
Here is a guide step by step to my 99% success rate method:
Once started you have to make it fun, and take it easy, no rushing into it, also some alcohol helps, but not too much otherwise they will fall asleep, also the upfront promise of a nice tip afterwards if all goes well, is highly indicated.
1. Start with some kissing, one, and the other one, then a short kiss between the two of them, then all 3 tongues out touching, that will induce giggles and laughter, maybe some nipple kisses too.
2. Have them do a shared blowjob, and some short each other kisses, then together side by side blowjob.
3. Have both on their backs, so they can't move away too much, then alternate licking their pussies and light hand play to the one that's in waiting, start also kissing them from time to time, suck the tits, then you go from one's pussy to the other one's mouth few times, and after that you announce them what they didn't realized yet, that they just kissed each other pussies indirectly. While you do all this complicated maneuvers, you have to add one more complication, for their confusion, take their hands and have them play with each other pussies and tits.
4. Have them suck each other tits, sometimes together with you, continue with the licking sucking the tits and kissing allover the place, then bring one's face on the other one's belly, and then go directly from the other pussy to her mouth few times, try and see if she will lick the pussy together with you, or at least give it a short kiss, after some in-between tits sucking and kissing, do the same maneuver with the other one, don't go directly for it, take it easy. I would say if you go slow 50% of the time they will lick the pussy.
5. Both still on their backs (fantasy positions will come later). Start fucking one, while keeping the other one busy with hand pussy play, then take your dick out out and play on the clit, put it back in, kiss them both, suck the tits, create confusion. Start licking the other one's pussy, then put your dick in, at this moment you just did the unacknowledged half of the pussy to pussy dick insertion. Do the same with the first one, then do it few more times, more often and more obviously, until you get them to the famous pussy swapping positions with the pussies on top of each other or side by side.
6. If step 4 was a success and they are pussy lickers, stop reading, you know what to do further, if not lay on your back, have one riding your dick, and the other one sitting on your face, then take the dick out an have her perform a blowjob, get the other one sitting on your face to join her, then exchange the fucking one with the face sitting one, and do the same thing. With the one sitting on your face facing away from the action, take your dick out, and have the one sitting on your face do a blowjob, repeat with the other one. After this blurry pussy to mouth maneuver fuck only one, and have the other one go for the blowjob directly, and vice versa.
If you completed all the 6 steps successfully, unleash your fantasy, and if the girls had an outstanding performance, tip them well, and keep in touch, next time if you don't enjoy the extended forplay you can skip it now, also you may branch out together with one or both of them. I ended up at some point with 4 of them that already have been together in diverse combinations, visiting me together, or bringing newbies. 3 or 4 is interesting and fun, but not very often, and it becomes also expensive, 2 is just right. I don't like, and I don't do anal, in this situation that will only complicate things.
From my "take it slow, don't rush it" experience I can say that "unbroken" filipinas will do more often pussy to mouth then direct pussy licking, the ones that lick pussy seem to really enjoy it, like they wanted to do it, and were just waiting for the occasion to arise. Works better with young inexperienced new comers.
Keep a bottle of tequila, calamansis and salt, in your room, just in case they need to take the edge off, and maybe a bottle of rose (not the wine, is some sweet tequila concoction, they all seem to like).
I hope this helps.
Old And Ugly
09-26-24, 21:40
Of all the 3 somes I've done in PH, only a handful have been the proper PSE ones. Most 3 somes as others have said were what I like to coin the Angeles 3 some (one girl hides in the bathroom or sits on the sofa while the other one gets porked). Once I figured out my system though, it hasn't failed me so far.
It's fairly easy to suss out girls promising 3 somes in order to get them and their friend barfined. All you have to do is ask them to kiss each other in exchange for LD, that first step alone will eliminate 80% of the bullshitters. The ones brave enough to follow through are then subjected to test level 2, fondle each other (including hands in pants) while kissing, this time in exchange for 2 LD each. At this point the remaining 20% bow out. This method has not failed me since 2018 in the bars.
For girls outside the bar, only the ones I've met with multiple times and have good rapport with can even begin to maybe generate my interest in the possibility of a 3 some these days, with an explicitly stated promise from me I'll stop seeing her if she ends up roping me into an angeles 3 some. Hasn't failed me so far.I forgot to add something similar to my previous set of instructions. It always works for the initial triage.
Hi Bionic, I'm not too sure about that from personal experience.
It's the old three's a crowd thing when you can have the alternative of one-on-one action with a great girl.
Keep in mind, that's just been my experience on quite a few occasions, but it depends on the the situation.
Personally, I wouldn't barfine multiple girls in case it turns to shit. But if you know a girl outside of the bar scene and she offers to invite a friend for some extra cash, take the chance and see where it takes you.
Those occasions have been very rewarding and at a good rate of 1500 per girl.
_ Phil.Understand and agreeing, you pay for two and get serviced 50% by each. Not a fan of threesomes here too. My observation is that, compared to LOS in PH they are more keen for 3+ even if for monetary reasons.
So the first time I was in Manila I must've really lucked out I chose an airbnb without a strict guest policy at all. I would've brought in anyone I wanted. I learned that's def not always the case when I got hit with so many rules and restrictions for my second visit. Practically all the places I looked up / checked in had a no guest policy. Never using airbnb again. Why did you even consider airbnb / avida?Most likely the rule is the same everywhere but one certainly notices (and is affected) when renting in a mongering location where you plan to take a girl (or more) back everyday (or night). You go yo a tourist only city (Paris, LOS Angeles, Berlin, wherever) and no plan of barfine etc, so you don't't check and are subject to those restrictions.
Concur. The ideal 3-some situation for a guy is that he can go back and forth, sexing each girl at will, all in one session (ala porn). However in Phils, the girls will not be into any of that. They will not allow you to put your uncovered schwanztooga back / forth into their poonana and the other girl's poonana. 'Dem Surigao girls sure forgot to read that part of the Manual. 😜.
G.
WestCoast1
09-27-24, 00:30
'Dem Surigao girls sure forgot to read that part of the Manual. 😜.The beauty of Surigaoanas: Never were known for their reading skils! 😜.
WestCoast1
09-27-24, 03:03
Most likely the rule is the same everywhere but one certainly notices (and is affected) when renting in a mongering location where you plan to take a girl (or more) back everyday (or night). You go yo a tourist only city (Paris, LOS Angeles, Berlin, wherever) and no plan of barfine etc, so you don't't check and are subject to those restrictions.Must say that even given my negative posts here regarding residence or owner's bad-boy guest policies, especially during covid, that I am still an airbnb fan. I have had mostly good success since the lifting of restrictions.
LoveItHere69
09-27-24, 07:52
You guys are always trying to add another girl. Try adding another guy (you) to the two girls that already exist. Find a bi-sexual girl who has a girlfriend meaning she is mostly lesbian. Then ask if her girlfriend is bi-sexual and open to be with guys. The answer is "yes"? Now ask for a picture of her GF. Is her GF acceptable looking? Let her negotiate. Her negotiations to get the 3-some will be far better than yours. Why try to create a lesbian connection when you can find one that already exists. Maybe take the GF intended target for a breakfast with the first girl to get her comfortable with you before negotiations or to verify chemistry beforehand to be sure she will not be a dud.
Old And Ugly
09-27-24, 15:35
You guys are always trying to add another girl. Try adding another guy (you) to the two girls that already exist. Find a bi-sexual girl who has a girlfriend meaning she is mostly lesbian. Then ask if her girlfriend is bi-sexual and open to be with guys. The answer is "yes"? Now ask for a picture of her GF. Is her GF acceptable looking? Let her negotiate. Her negotiations to get the 3-some will be far better than yours. Why try to create a lesbian connection when you can find one that already exists. Maybe take the GF intended target for a breakfast with the first girl to get her comfortable with you before negotiations or to verify chemistry beforehand to be sure she will not be a dud.It's for the thrill of hunting!
You guys are always trying to add another girl. Try adding another guy (you) to the two girls that already exist. Find a bi-sexual girl who has a girlfriend meaning she is mostly lesbian. Then ask if her girlfriend is bi-sexual and open to be with guys. The answer is "yes"? Now ask for a picture of her GF. Is her GF acceptable looking? Let her negotiate. Her negotiations to get the 3-some will be far better than yours. Why try to create a lesbian connection when you can find one that already exists. Maybe take the GF intended target for a breakfast with the first girl to get her comfortable with you before negotiations or to verify chemistry beforehand to be sure she will not be a dud.Mate, can you tell us your success rate with this approach?
It just sounds like a lot of fucking around to find a couple of existing dykes when the cash incentive of getting a couple of straight girls in the bed has worked every time for me.
Just my experience _ Phil.
WestCoast1
09-27-24, 16:41
Too much talk, not enough pictures. Thinkin' of ya, DC.
LoveItHere69
09-27-24, 19:55
Mate, can you tell us your success rate with this approach?
It just sounds like a lot of fucking around to find a couple of existing dykes when the cash incentive of getting a couple of straight girls in the bed has worked every time for me.
Just my experience _ Phil.You might get straight girls in bed for a 3-some but not the passionate girl on girl with 3-way swapping like porn movies. Maybe some kissing and sucking of boobs and such, but not hard core eating out and real deep tongue in mouth between the girls. I do not see it as being a more difficult approach.
No experience. Only did 3-some once and bored me to death watching others play. Only interested in me, me, and me. Waste of money for me. I always read about no chemistry between the girls so my thought is find that chemistry first then weasle your way into it. I am a 1 on 1 numbers guy.
Davao cintinued.
After the hottie debacle followed by mama's marathon sessions, I felt that a day or two rest to recharge the batteries was well in order. I also decided to admit defeat, recognise that I'm getting older and seek out some vitamin see.
Most of the afternoon was a search for prescription free 10 MG Cialis. Mercury #1 said very sternly that nothing can be given without a prescription. Mercury #2 said that I needed a prescription but she woukd supply 1 tab until I can get it. No 10 MG available so one 20 MG was 958 peso /$17. Walking home, I passed a hole in the wall pharmacy who said I could have as much generic Viagra as I wanted but they didn't have any Cialis, real or copy. Immediately before my hotel, there was Mercury #3 who would give me a box of tabs. Again, no 10 MG available so a box of 20 MG was 1916 peso. I thought that a box would be several cards of blister packs but, no, it was two tabs only. Dr Google identified 10 MG per day as the typical dose. With no 10's available I just split a 20 in half. Online searches were conflicting about this being ok or not. What are others' practical experience with halving Cialis tabs. Does this change the effectiveness? I've settled on 20 MG every second day now.
The following day was purely practical things.
The next proved PhilJoys point:
The older girls are professionals and value repeat 'customers' who will return over time. The young ones just try and grab the cash and run. And honestly, they can be lazy and provide a disappointing 'service' in the process compared to some of the older girls.
The older girls can be amazing in the sack.
Just my experience _ Phil.I thought I would try a second shot at the 20 yo cutie but amazingly her mens had arrived three weeks early. I know, a shocker. I guess she didn't like the thought of having to work for the money.
I called Mama and she said had also started to spot lightly. That's wasnt going to stop her. 'No problems you can fuck me in the shower'. Very resourceful. Decided to give that a pass and call back in a few days.
A quick online session soon brought up a candidate. The girls never fail to surprise. Somehow she forgot that she was 4 months pregnant. It didn't stop her putting in a stellar performance and she spent the night for the usual 2000.
Enjoy G.
Old And Ugly
09-29-24, 00:58
You might get straight girls in bed for a 3-some but not the passionate girl on girl with 3-way swapping like porn movies. Maybe some kissing and sucking of boobs and such, but not hard core eating out and real deep tongue in mouth between the girls. I do not see it as being a more difficult approach.
No experience. Only did 3-some once and bored me to death watching others play. Only interested in me, me, and me. Waste of money for me. I always read about no chemistry between the girls so my thought is find that chemistry first then weasle your way into it. I am a 1 on 1 numbers guy.You will be surprised by how many first timers will have a passionate 3 some, if treated the right way.
Old And Ugly
09-29-24, 01:13
Davao cintinued.
After the hottie debacle followed by mama's marathon sessions, I felt that a day or two rest to recharge the batteries was well in order. I also decided to admit defeat, recognise that I'm getting older and seek out some vitamin see.
Most of the afternoon was a search for prescription free 10 MG Cialis. Mercury #1 said very sternly that nothing can be given without a prescription. Mercury #2 said that I needed a prescription but she woukd supply 1 tab until I can get it. No 10 MG available so one 20 MG was 958 peso /$17. Walking home, I passed a hole in the wall pharmacy who said I could have as much generic Viagra as I wanted but they didn't have any Cialis, real or copy. Immediately before my hotel, there was Mercury #3 who would give me a box of tabs. Again, no 10 MG available so a box of 20 MG was 1916 peso. I thought that a box would be several cards of blister packs but, no, it was two tabs only. Dr Google identified 10 MG per day as the typical dose. With no 10's available I just split a 20 in half. Online searches were conflicting about this being ok or not. What are others' practical experience with halving Cialis tabs. Does this change the effectiveness? I've settled on 20 MG every second day now.I don't use it, but I bought some for a friend back home, and I remember that the price was around 2 $ for 1 pill, 17 $ seems way overpriced. This was last year in AC, but I don't think the price changed that much in one year. I bought it in the pharmacy at the entrance to Rock 69 bar, I don't remember the exact details, but it was something similar to your situation, and I asked if was ok to cut it in half, and the answer was yes, you can do it, there is no special coating on it.
AgentOrange
09-29-24, 04:02
Like this?
You will be surprised by how many first timers will have a passionate 3 some, if treated the right way.
You guys are always trying to add another girl. Try adding another guy (you) to the two girls that already exist..
Mate, can you tell us your success rate with this approach?
It just sounds like a lot of fucking around to find a couple of existing dykes when the cash incentive of getting a couple of straight girls in the bed has worked every time for me.
Just my experience _ Phil.This is where everyone's definition of a threesome is different.
For guys who want to watch and interact with two girl fucking then LoveIt's method is the best. Unfortunately, these girls are exceedingly rare and false promises are rife.
For greedy guys, like myself, who want two girls to fuck him / me then Phil's method works and is far more available. Many girls are slightly gay for pay.
If we are talking success rates, I've had exactly one true gay girl pair who were straight for pay. One wasn't a Tom but she was definitely the dominant of the two. The other was alwaya the previous girl friend. Don't ask me why but the current girl friend was always off limits to guys and she would only work with the previous girlfriend. Some were pretty average but some were very cute.
I've had many sessions of girls teaming up to fuck me together, maybe with some light interaction between them, but never full PSE. I'd agree that the more comfortable and familiar they were with each other, the better they fucked me. This also gave less interruptions and requirements: fuck one then the other; no moving between girls; swapping condoms; the list goes on.
Add to this many times more false promises or girls just faking eating each other or etc.
Enjoy. G.
Davao Continues II.
After me saying that there are no spinners in Davao, about 1 pm I took a slim cutie to Jollie Bees for an Interview. 21 yo, about 5'6" and 100 lb with pert little AB cups. Plenty for a mouthful. She passed the interview and we headed back. To be honest I was a little perplexed as to why she was sucking old dick at all. She was well dressed, could hold a conversation and was generally nice to be with. She even pulled 300 p out of her purse when I didn't have any small notes to pay the taxi.
She was good fun back in the room. No need for a blow by blow description as they all merge together after a while. But I was definitely impressed by her body: long and slim and toned. What more could a guy ask for? Multiple sessions without complaints or dramas. I made excuses for her to leave at 11 am so 2000 seemed like a pretty good deal to me for nearly 24 hours.
Enjoy. G.
Old And Ugly
09-29-24, 11:26
Like this?Yes, like that, and more. In your first pick you can tell that the girl being sucked really enjoys it.
Old And Ugly
09-29-24, 12:06
The beauty of Surigaoanas: Never were known for their reading skils! 😜.Here are two "Luzoanas", where the user manual is a bit different, and they read it well. There is a third one, a dark Surigaoana not in the POV that was sucking me from time to time and otherwise licking the blonde's clit while I was doing the blonde doggy style.
This is where everyone's definition of a threesome is different.
For guys who want to watch and interact with two girl fucking then LoveIt's method is the best. Unfortunately, these girls are exceedingly rare and false promises are rife.
For greedy guys, like myself, who want two girls to fuck him / me then Phil's method works and is far more available. Many girls are slightly gay for pay.
Enjoy. G.Absolutely agree G.
Generally the sales pitch is "You want two girls?
My experiences haven't been via your traditional girly bars, but other bars where I've gained a rapport with the staff.
In Sabang I've had between two to five in my room at a time through the day just enjoying the aircon and a TV.
Things often got interesting after a few Anotov Vodka's.
The trip before last was a RORO experience with two of them.
I just asked the question, 'Can you show me how to lick a pussy?" and I was provided with the perfect demo.
I had / have a really good rapport with both of them, so we all felt comfortable and had a pretty good time.
Their cash incentive was about 1500 p each and some money for dinner before they went to work in the bar at 6 pm.
Got to love The Phils _ Phil.
My experiences haven't been via your traditional girly bars, but other bars where I've gained a rapport with the staff.
In Sabang I've had between two to five in my room at a time through the day just enjoying the aircon and a TV.
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Their cash incentive was about 1500 p each and some money for dinner before they went to work in the bar at 6 pm.
Got to love The Phils _ Phil.I don't understand. You mean that you can actually talk to girls beyond the stripper clubs in AC?? Is that even allowed? A real conversation?? With normal girls who aren't paid to suck dick night after night? Do they really exist??
Measure twice cut once. For purely scientific research I identified that Sabang beds cater for four with some space to move. Five works but someone is sleeping east west at the foot of the bed. Best to not get too greedy.
It's amazing how much direct service fees can be reduced by treating people like human beings. I've yet to calculate the return on a 127 peso yumi burger meal but it's got to be well above investment grade.
Enjoy. G.
Davao Continues III.
After Ms. Long and Lean, I assessed my options for my last night in town. Offers were starting to pour in to meet up for introductions. My spidey sense was saying that a number of them would be converts. However, I don't have a good history of thinking that the grass is always greener so I called up Ms Hot Mommy and asked the 31 yo to drop around again. After work at 7 pm was agreed.
Between the two girls, I wwmt to the massage mentioned elsewhere here.
She arrived, chatted for a while when we turned in early to allow for an early start tomorrow. Numerous sessions followed throughout the night and early morning. Thankfully less manic than the last session but still great fun. Everything was catered for except A+ which was firmly off limits. In the morning I handed her another 2 k and her surprising reply was to ask why I was paying her everyday.
As an aside, I didn't progress sourcing the Cialis. It gave me bad indigestion and heart burn for little benefit. Erections were hard, but they were before too, but I didn't notice any change in ejaculation timing or frequency. All pain with no gain, I didn't see the point in continuing.
Enjoy. G.
Unfortunately, after four weeks of fun, I was due for the wheels to fall off. Arrived in Butuan and called over a new 19 yo of PL. No fees mentioned but she agreed to stay the night. Arrives and immediately the pussy hurts, it's too big yada yada yada. Cut my losses and she's out the door after about 45 minutes with 1 k. I get an abusive call from the lobby: 1 k is not enough; I need 500 for the taxi (it's 80 at best); how am I going to feed my old grandma; on and on. Tell some one who cares.
Change hotels as the Red Doorz uncharacteristically sucked. Bummed around in the morning then the flood gates opened. Previous conquest called and wants to drop around, "ST, LT doesn't matter, just fuck me", another that I missed out on last trip has time after work; another who wants to say thanks for a platonic meal; mega tits in the photo to DCups finishes class soon. What to do? I'm not really a mega tits guy but I felt like something different so went with option DD's. Well, fuck me, 3 hours of drama organising trikes, taxis etc and she arrives; and she's a yapper, talking non stop. Shut up woman!! Its time for bed and. She decides we should only be friends. I literally cancelled three others girls for this. 🤬.
Fuck!!
I guess it had to happen. I was on a good role there for a while.
A couple of hours later, DD girl finally decided to be more than friends. Not fat but certainly bigger framed, she's about 5'5" and two 80 lb spinners, the tits make it worth while. Literally the size of a human head each but, at 23 and no kids, still firm. Very num-num-numable and built for motor boating. She knew how to use her pussy too which was a bonus. I'm only a small guy so she was a bit too big to throw around the room but it was something different.
So I guess that didn't end too badly after all. She's a nutter though. Famous last words but not sure if I'll repeat. Massive tits aren't really my thing but we'll see. She does have a hot dormate / cousin so that might be an incentive. Oh and 'guys are always asking me for sexy photos. I never send them. Well there was this one guy that I really liked' then she shows me folders and folders of nudes. But just that one guy you understand. 😉.
Enjoy. G.
Too much talk, not enough pictures. Thinkin' of ya, DC.Thanks. Man!
I don't use it, but I bought some for a friend back home, and I remember that the price was around 2 $ for 1 pill, 17 $ seems way overpriced. This was last year in AC, but I don't think the price changed that much in one year. I bought it in the pharmacy at the entrance to Rock 69 bar, I don't remember the exact details, but it was something similar to your situation, and I asked if was ok to cut it in half, and the answer was yes, you can do it, there is no special coating on it.10 MG tadadafil (generic Cialis) at Costco pharmacy in US is $12 for 60. So $17 for 2 20 MG is very high. But you are in Phil not USa so YMMV.
I don't understand. You mean that you can actually talk to girls beyond the stripper clubs in AC?? Is that even allowed? A real conversation?? With normal girls who aren't paid to suck dick night after night? Do they really exist??
Measure twice cut once. For purely scientific research I identified that Sabang beds cater for four with some space to move. Five works but someone is sleeping east west at the foot of the bed. Best to not get too greedy.
It's amazing how much direct service fees can be reduced by treating people like human beings. I've yet to calculate the return on a 127 peso yumi burger meal but it's got to be well above investment grade.
Enjoy. G.Ha Ha, Love your work G.
Yes, sometimes buying them a decent feed can do the trick. Just as long as I get a taste of something sweet too!
As for bed numbers, the little things can adapt to any position on a decent mattress, as opposed to sleeping on the floor in the province _ Phil.
I collapsed and died for a day with the flu. Numerous girls messaged to see if we could go out / hook up but leaving the room just wasn't a priority. One of the girls that I rejected to see Ms DDs offered to run some medicine out to me during her lunch break. As I felt like absolute shit, this was gladly accepted. She arrived and I downed pills like a strung out junky. She mentioned several times that she had to be back at work by 2 pm so it was obvious that she intended a lot more than medical relief and time was of the essence. To be honest, a 3 yr old daughter had taken its toll but she made up for it with enthusiasm. Suddenly I was feeling much better. It's amazing what a good BJ will do to one's spirits. No cash exchanged but she did leave with the 1500 p of dobuts and chocolates that we Maximed in. I'd call that a fair trade. I was feeling pretty happy with the situation until she messaged later that some how she forgot that she had an urgent need for 3000 p. I made some lame excuse and said that we can work out someway in the future for her to earn it. I'll see, As I said, the body had taken some damage but she did have a lot of enthusiasm. Maybe keep her in the interchange bench. ??
This was yet another example of the total lack of girls' knowledge of sexual health. She was very sceptical that I had a vasectomy and pregnancy wasn't a risk. She was adamant that a V stopped libido and performance.
Enjoy. G.
Finished off the day with a surprise. It's a quiet day so I'm back and forth with a girl all day. We're chatting but she's an hour away and got a million reasons not to see me let alone fuck me. Then the fateful statement: she's just left school "because of financial". Gotcha. If we have some fun for the afternoon, then I'm happy to help you out. A deal is stamped at 1500 for unlimited fun until 5 pm She's on the way.
Of course, it takes her three hours to make the journey. She gets lost a couple of times but finally arrives. And wow!! She is way better in person than the pics or even the video chat. 21 yo, no kids, 5'6" maybe 100 with nice BS. Slim but some curves in all the right places. A pretty face also helps. The only thing is that between my heavy accent and her non existent english, she can't understand a word I'm saying. Oh well. We fail miserably at polite conversation then get down to business.
The tits are spilled out of the spaghetti dress and they are lovely play things. Another shy one, all the lights go off and she dives under the bed sheet. We progress on but hit a road block. The dress must stay on. WTF?? It can come down to suck her tits. It can go up to get to her panties but there is no way it's coming off. Something's not right here and alarm bells start ringing. Either she's got a dick, massive stretch marks or something else isn't kosher. The finger test proves all's good down there. Her skin's as smooth as silk and super firm so no concerns there either. Who knows??
Her legs are splayed so we go for penetration but she recoils away. Shit, I don't need this sore pussy BS again. What's wrong?? "I'm a virgin". Are you serious?? We agreed on having sex for a few hours. You knew that.
Sure enough, there are spots of blood on the sheet and I'm in two minds if she's on the rags and it's a BS cover story or if she is actually a virgin. We progress on and after a few attempts we get full penetration and the deed is done. She called out a few times "I'm done" and I think it's a bad faked climax. What her bad english really meant was "get the fuck off me". Luckily at no stage was I slamming away.
So what happened??
Do I think she was a true virgin? No, I don't. I've known a couple of 21 yo virgins so don't think it's impossible but things were a little too easy and lubricated. Also, a girl that attractive is going to have local guys hitting on her 24/7. To this you can add asking for a Red Horse when she arrived and makeup a little too on point for sometime who doesn't get out.
Do I think she was a total BS artist who wanted to get the money and run? No, she had ample opportunity to bail with the money early but stayed the full time, paid for her own transport, didn't ask for any extras and I got a shot away as promised.
One wierd one I have seen before is that girls that grow up in a heavily religious household, where everything to do with sex is bad and unspoken, can have the occasional hook up then convince themselves that it wasn't a major indiscretion and that they are still a virgin. If you ask them, they will swear black and blue that they are still virgins simply because of the peer pressure places upon not being one. This would also explain her being incredibly awkward interacting with another body: legs, arms and sheets were constantly getting tangled up; if she laid on your chest, it hurt, she didn't snuggle into, she laid on top of, a few times she leant forward with her forearm straight across my throat. She definitely wasn't terribly familiar with being in close quarters with another person.
Who knows and who cares for that matter.
Definitely one of the better bodies I've been with this trip. But some side issues to say the least.
Enjoy. G.
She definitely wasn't terribly familiar with being in close quarters with another person.
Who knows and who cares for that matter.
Definitely one of the better bodies I've been with this trip. But some side issues to say the least.
Enjoy. G.Great reports G and familiar territory.
By that I mean, some of the chance hook-ups I've had definitely throw some curve balls at you when you get them in the sack.
Always memorable to reflect on though. And another to add to the scoreboard.
_Phil.
Great reports G and familiar territory.
By that I mean, some of the chance hook-ups I've had definitely throw some curve balls at you when you get them in the sack.
Always memorable to reflect on though. And another to add to the scoreboard.
_Phil.Thanks Phil. I have to admit that I'm not totally against a girl having a little craziness. It definitely adds some spice to life.
You're right: lots of stories along the same vane.
Enjoy. G.
Butuan III.
Long term readers would have noticed that I'm not really into taking nor sharing mid session photos. However, for whatever reason, I've become fixated on getting as many of Ms DD's home made photo albums as possible. Polite messages reminding her that she said she would send them to me have gone unactioned.
Plan Bravo is to call her back for another session (not an altogether unpleasant experience) and get them in person. During the day yesterday, I invited her over. She was on the way, but had to cancel at the last minute as I still felt like shit. Let's just say that, after an hour's hair and makeup, she was less than impressed. I promised all would be good tomorrow, ie today, and sure enough, 6 pm she's actually in the taxi. She arrives and, I swear, she starts yapping again straight away. She continued talking right where she ended last time. Jeezus, I hate yappers.
The plan is all night so there is no hurry. We both have separate showers and I'm reminded that she's a big boned girl but this tits are truely massive. We start mild foreplay. As I said, there is no rush so this is interspersed with chatting, light kissing and generally mucking about. One tit is set fee and sucked. A second tit follows. Then a finger goes exploring and is inserted. During a lull, she looks over at her phone then suddenly grabs it. "Turn the lights on my mom is going to call". Lights go on and she runs to the other bed and faced directly to me so I'm out of camera view. This isn't my first rodeo so I know to just wait, be quiet and the fun will continue soon. Sure enough, mom calls and they start babbling away in Bisaya. Obviously, I understand zero of this.
A little back story would be good here. Apparently DDs was essentially abandoned to Aunty at 8 while Mom travelled the world selling pussy to feed the family. She very rarely has seen mom since then and isn't at all close to her but, at the end of the day, she pays the bills so DDs plays along as required and they pretend to be a happy family on the few occasions that mom returns. She had been busy sucking dick in Germany when the call came through.
So, the chatting continued. I don't know the details of what was said but you could tell it was getting strained. I just laid there, on the other side of the room and waited my turn. Then, DDs turned to get something out of her handbag and I just knew instinctively that I came into frame of the camera. Sure enough, the tone changed straight away. I heard "classmate" mentioned several times in succession and what sounded a lot like my room trying to pass for Lia's. The conversation became more animated by the moment. Then DDs must have paused the call, yelled at me that she needs a taxi now!! She needs to go home, now!! She reconnects the call and I hear her trying to explain the break as a data "hang" a few times. She even dives outside wearing nothing but a nighty to continue the conversation with tits falling everywhere. I push the door closed because nobody needs to see me totally naked inside. A few moments later she returns definitely shaken and full of apologies. "Sorry, but I've got to go home now. My mom knows. ".
I order her a grab taxi and six minutes later she's off.
So, another interesting night in the province. I finally feel healthy but no pussy, no sexy selfies. But I did get some smelly fingers!!
Enjoy. G.
WestCoast1
10-07-24, 00:07
"Sorry, but I've got to go home now. My mom knows. ".
I order her a grab taxi and six minutes later she's off.
So, another interesting night in the province. I finally feel healthy but no pussy, no sexy selfies. But I did get some smelly fingers!!
Enjoy. G.Pr*ck in one stinky hand, camera in the other!
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Pr*ck in one stinky hand, camera in the other!
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!You know the crazy thing? I don't even like big tits. 🤦
Old And Ugly
10-07-24, 15:40
Butuan III.
Long term readers would have noticed that I'm not really into taking nor sharing mid session photos. However, for whatever reason, I've become fixated on getting as many of Ms DD's home made photo albums as possible. Polite messages reminding her that she said she would send them to me have gone unactioned.
Plan Bravo is to call her back for another session (not an altogether unpleasant experience) and get them in person. During the day yesterday, I invited her over. She was on the way, but had to cancel at the last minute as I still felt like shit. Let's just say that, after an hour's hair and makeup, she was less than impressed. I promised all would be good tomorrow, ie today, and sure enough, 6 pm she's actually in the taxi. She arrives and, I swear, she starts yapping again straight away. She continued talking right where she ended last time. Jeezus, I hate yappers.
The plan is all night so there is no hurry. We both have separate showers and I'm reminded that she's a big boned girl but this tits are truely massive. We start mild foreplay. As I said, there is no rush so this is interspersed with chatting, light kissing and generally mucking about. One tit is set fee and sucked. A second tit follows. Then a finger goes exploring and is inserted. During a lull, she looks over at her phone then suddenly grabs it. "Turn the lights on my mom is going to call". Lights go on and she runs to the other bed and faced directly to me so I'm out of camera view. This isn't my first rodeo so I know to just wait, be quiet and the fun will continue soon. Sure enough, mom calls and they start babbling away in Bisaya. Obviously, I understand zero of this.
A little back story would be good here. Apparently DDs was essentially abandoned to Aunty at 8 while Mom travelled the world selling pussy to feed the family. She very rarely has seen mom since then and isn't at all close to her but, at the end of the day, she pays the bills so DDs plays along as required and they pretend to be a happy family on the few occasions that mom returns. She had been busy sucking dick in Germany when the call came through.
So, the chatting continued. I don't know the details of what was said but you could tell it was getting strained. I just laid there, on the other side of the room and waited my turn. Then, DDs turned to get something out of her handbag and I just knew instinctively that I came into frame of the camera. Sure enough, the tone changed straight away. I heard "classmate" mentioned several times in succession and what sounded a lot like my room trying to pass for Lia's. The conversation became more animated by the moment. Then DDs must have paused the call, yelled at me that she needs a taxi now!! She needs to go home, now!! She reconnects the call and I hear her trying to explain the break as a data "hang" a few times. She even dives outside wearing nothing but a nighty to continue the conversation with tits falling everywhere. I push the door closed because nobody needs to see me totally naked inside. A few moments later she returns definitely shaken and full of apologies. "Sorry, but I've got to go home now. My mom knows. ".
I order her a grab taxi and six minutes later she's off.
So, another interesting night in the province. I finally feel healthy but no pussy, no sexy selfies. But I did get some smelly fingers!!
Enjoy. G.You have writing skills, I enjoy reading your stuff. Sailor jack was also one of my favorites, I don't know what happened to him, I hope he's ok.
Butuan III.
ngers!!
Enjoy. G.Glad to see her mother, the globe trotting harlot, was peeved with her loose ways. Family values. Fancy marrying into al lthat messby accident or design. No offence to hte. It makes a great yarn here but in real life.
Glad to see her mother, the globe trotting harlot, was peeved with her loose ways. Family values. Fancy marrying into al lthat messby accident or design. No offence to hte. It makes a great yarn here but in real life.She, DD's, is definitely a few screws short of a hardware shop. I've seen it a few times with people who ramble on endlessly but about nothing of consequence. Sometimes I think it's to avoid talking about important or deeper topics closer to the heart. She adores her aunt but has no time at all for her mother.
Her past life and how she was abandoned must have contributed in some way. It can't have been a positive.
I'm not out to save anyone but I've often said before that we all have our fun but there is often a dark underbelly to the hobby.
Enjoy. G.
You have writing skills, I enjoy reading your stuff. Sailor jack was also one of my favorites, I don't know what happened to him, I hope he's ok.Thanks. You're very kind. I try to make it more than "I spent the same amount as everyone else, in the same bars as everyone else to get a clone of the same girl as everyone else".
There is always a back story. Suzy Q Citizen doesn't just wake up one day and start selling pussy to grandpa
Enjoy. G.
WestCoast1
10-09-24, 00:15
Sailor jack was also one of my favorites, I don't know what happened to him, I hope he's ok.Ya he had good stories and pics.
Now, get in there and clean up your act.
DD's and I getting busted by mom coincided with the end of my hotel booking so I decided it was a good time to make myself scarce. Everything was probably fine. However, I've seen several incidents where girls need to quickly prove to the family that they were not at fault and wild accusations start being thrown whities way. Soon he's being accused of graping the pure and chaste young girl. It was best that I was out of sight, out of mind until things blew over.
Returning to Surigao was a short and uneventful bus ride. There was data available the whole way so time on the apps was productive. A cheap hotel was also booked. A busy schedule was booked to allow some to flake, no show or be not as described.
That afternoom saw the typical 2/10 drop vs pictures and video. Looks were ok. Performance was ok. Attitude was ok. However, nothing really felt worth repeating. Especially as there was a nice 18 yo scheduled to come later in the evening. I didn't worry about keeping her to the agreed timing and didn't complain when she hinted that her goldfish needed feeding earlier than planned.
In a few hours a little cutie was scheduled to arrive. Only 18 and quite pretty. She seemed very shy but mustered up some courage as she was living away from home and flat broke. Unfortunately, she kept the chatting online up but in person, she was a no show. I went to bed alone.
Another target was someone who had just broken up with a an American boyfriend in town. Spoke great english and had clearly been riding the expat circuit. Unfortunately, Uncle Sam must have been a bit of a simp as she was use to getting her own way and issuing demands which she expected to be followed. It came as a shock to her that I don't play that game and missed appointments and orders on when and where to eat didn't bother me at all. After a day she stopped playing and dropped around. A really pretty face but the body was destroyed by two kids early on. She knew how to use it but recommendations to go to the beach and have a fuck fest the next day weren't accepted. I'm not big on quickies but when she made comments about needing to get home straight after the deed, I paid 1 k base rates and she was off.
I thought it would be rude to be in Surigao and not catch up with the threesome girls. They answered the WhatsApp message in seconds. Sure. We are on our way. One arrived first and claimed she was hungry. It was lunchtime but I wasn't heading out in the heat of the day so suggested Food Panda. She phoned the other that we weren't meeting at McDo's but to come to the hotel room. She did so WITH HER KID IN TOW. Woah! I intercepted them before they get through the door. Sorry. Definitely no minors allowed into a foreigner's hotel room. The girls babble back and forth. Everyone is hungry. No one is available to babysit the kid. Girls want to come in to earn some cash. None of these are my problems so tell them to go back home and come back when they are ready. An hour later one returns alone. The other isn't coming as she has no one to watch junior. Bugger so no threesome. No biggy. Down to business with the last one standing. A great BBBJ followed by BBFSCIP. Then she too has to go early. Another 1 k and she's gone back home to do what ever.
On the last day I received some selfies from DDs so looks as if the coast is clear to return.
More to follow.
The girls babble back and forth. Everyone is hungry. No one is available to babysit the kid. Girls want to come in to earn some cash. None of these are my problems so tell them to go back home and come back when they are ready. An hour later one returns alone. The other isn't coming as she has no one to watch junior. Bugger so no threesome. No biggy. Down to business with the last one standing. A great BBBJ followed by BBFSCIP. Then she too has to go early. Another 1 k and she's gone back home to do what everGreat reports G.
Yes, there are always hurdles to jump before you get to the finish line.
1 K sounds like a win to me.
I think back to my first visit to The Phils maybe 20 years ago and to now, with multiple visits a year.
Back then I would have been taken for 'a ride' in the name of getting laid.
Now, it's more or less playing the game and coming out on top, so to speak.
(I'm slowly educating these girls that customer service is paramount and will result in returned business).
Enjoy!
_Phil.
Her past life and how she was abandoned must have contributed in some way. It can't have been a positive.
I'm not out to save anyone but I've often said before that we all have our fun but there is often a dark underbelly to the hobby.
Enjoy. G.Absolutely agree G.
I've become quite close to a few of my long term contacts and their backstory isn't great.
(And these aren't your typical young AC bar girls just looking for a cash and run job).
They know I'll only reward them when I see them and not expect to receive cash from me when I'm back at home.
Yes, there's a dark underbelly to 'the hobby' but some, and hopefully most of us, realize there's a personal interaction that's real with the right girl and not just a bar fling for cash.
Every second day I chat with a 44 year old contact in Sabang on WhatsApp and she happens to be super fit and is still one of the best that I return to time and time again.
We've become real friends with benefits. Yes there's a mutual feeling there, but we know where we both stand.
In these cases, the underbelly is dissolved, although Filipinas can have some very jealous ex-husbands.
_ Phil.
Absolutely agree G.
I've become quite close to a few of my long term contacts and their backstory isn't great.
(And these aren't your typical young AC bar girls just looking for a cash and run job).
They know I'll only reward them when I see them and not expect to receive cash from me when I'm back at home.
Yes, there's a dark underbelly to 'the hobby' but some, and hopefully most of us, realize there's a personal interaction that's real with the right girl and not just a bar fling for cash.
Every second day I chat with a 44 year old contact in Sabang on WhatsApp and she happens to be super fit and is still one of the best that I return to time and time again.
We've become real friends with benefits. Yes there's a mutual feeling there, but we know where we both stand.
In these cases, the underbelly is dissolved, although Filipinas can have some very jealous ex-husbands.
_ Phil.In general, the common thread I have found is that almost every girl has a low-life man as part of her story. Maybe it's the pinoy BF, husband, or even father that drinks and gambles all of their money away and sends her out to sell pussy for money. Maybe it's the ex-BF who got her pregnant and then dumped her, often because he had another family already and kept it a secret. Or maybe the ex BF or husband was controlling or abusive and she had to flee.
In my experience of mongering, I've met only one provider that apparently doesn't have some horrible backstory. She just genuinely enjoys what she does and the money it brings. And, like Phil said, it's because I've become good friends with her over several years. I've met most of the people important in her life, including her children. I haven't seen her a a client for years, and she has given me far more money as a friend than I ever gave her as a client. But she is Thai and not Filipina 😅.
In my experience of mongering, I've met only one provider that apparently doesn't have some horrible backstory. She just genuinely enjoys what she does and the money it brings. And, like Phil said, it's because I've become good friends with her over several years. I've met most of the people important in her life, including her children. I haven't seen her a a client for years, and she has given me far more money as a friend than I ever gave her as a client. But she is Thai and not Filipina 😅.Every one of them is crewed in the head. That is the price.
Every one of them is crewed in the head. That is the price.Is that a bad thing?? The best fucks in my life have all been batshit crazy women.
G.
In general, the common thread I have found is that almost every girl has a low-life man as part of her story. True and traditionally the closer that bond should be, the more damage done when it's broken. Father's selling daughters to pay alcohol and gambling debts and especially mothers tricking out daughters jumps to mind. Can't be good for the soul.
G.
Hi Guys,
As I generally visit Sabang on every trip to the Phils see my regular hottie, I just thought I'd share some useful updated info for the assistance of of others. If you're after an alternative to Angeles and actually have some fun in a place with a decent view surrounded by water, I'd recommend checking it out. It's pretty close to Manila and the girls don't seem to be as aggressive in their approach as they are AC and definitely not like those in Makati from experience.
Getting there:
Bus it to Batangas Port.
Yes you can hire a private van or taxi and I've done it once, but not worth the cash in my opinion, especially after you pay all the tolls along the way, or get stuck with an annoying driver.
The trick is to get a bus down there out of Manila on a weekend. You'll arrive at the port in approx two hours and you'll have a few options.
I generally get myself to the Buendia bus terminal and get the Jam Liner bus for under 500 p. Aim to get there about 830-9 am. The busses are supposed to depart on the hour, but it is The Phils, so they can take off at any time. Just get on one and it'll take off at some stage. The advantage of the Jam Liner service is they head down there all day, so if you miss one, there'll be another.
The other option is the Si-Kat Bus service. Si-Kat offers a combined tourist bus and boat service daily from Manila to Puerto Galera and back.
9:30 AM Si-KAT Bus departs at City State Tower, Mabini St. , Ermita, Manila.
11:30 AM Arrival at Batangas Pier.
1:00 PM Ferry Departure.
2:30 PM Ferry Arrival at Balatero Pier, Puerto Galera.
The advantage of this service is the whole trip is on one ticket, however the Jam Liner option works out cheaper and more flexible.
Batangas Port:
This is where your bus will pull up. They used to stop right by the terminal entrance but now offload a block up the road. There's a fairly large 7-11 on the corner where you can stock up on beer, snacks and water for the trip ahead. Just follow the crowd down past all the vendors and you'll be heading in the right direction. You'll encounter a swarm of guys trying to 'help' you with your luggage. Just tell them to fuck off in the nicest possible way. You'll go through a security check at the port entrance and be prepared to have your cigarette lighter confiscated (I still wonder where they all end up in the land of lighter confiscation).
The Batangas terminal is actually quite modern with some fairly decent food options and really clean CRs. If you've travelled by Si-Kat, you'll already have a fastcat ticket. If you've done the Jam Liner hike, you'll need to buy a ticket for your aqua trip. You'll also have to pay a port tax in a separate line which will only cost 30 p. All the ticket booths are clearly sign-posted regarding the destinations and if you can't find the right one, just ask someone. There is an option to take the slower and cheaper RORO (roll on roll off ferry) option. It's cheaper though much slower than a fastcat. On average the fastcat trip will take you about 1. 5 hours to get to to Puerto Galera.
Hint: The Puerto Galera Yacht Club has always had the most up-to-date ferry schedules listed on their website: https://www.pgyc.org/ferry-sched.php.
Puerto Galera:
Well, there's not much there but it's not a bad spot. Upon arrival you'll be hit with a modest visitor tax and then you'll be greeted by the trike mafia outside the terminal. Expect to pay about 300 p to get to Sabang by trike but it's quite a scenic ride in parts. It takes around 20 minutes and you'll be dropped right in the action of Sabang or depending where your hotel is, they might be able to drop you at the door now the new boardwalk is finished.
Sabang:
Well there's plenty of info online about the girly action, but a lot is outdated. Basically there's a long alley (you can't miss it) that comes alive at night with many established gogo bars and those that come and go. Sorry, I can't give you prices as I've never really done the barfine and LD drink option and prefer bedding non bar girls who aren't as profit driven and I prefer all my rewards go to the girls.
I visit Sabang regularly to see a girlfriend who happens to be the fuck of the century (and before you ask again, you can't have her WhatsApp details buddy. Go and find your own pussy)!
All I know, and have been told by locals is, it's cheaper than AC and Makati. Oh, and it's predominately a diving destination. It doesn't matter if you don't dive, you'll still have fun. But I've just observed that in high season, there's the old issue of Korean divers hunting in packs and cleaning the bars out of talent early in the evening. You'll generally have a better choice of talent when the place is a bit quieter.
Although there's no beach in the heart of Sabang, especially now the new boardwalk is complete, it offers a nice outlook right on the water with ships passing by and some pretty things walking by that are very pleasing to the eye. There's a really decent little supermarket right in the heart of it at the start of the alley. There's also some good food options in town. If you want a decent beach, it's a fairly short walk around to Big Laguna. You could also get a trike with your girl and take a trip to White Beach. It's relatively nice, though more geared to Pinoys making the short trip for a Manila getaway. You'll still probably get asked if you want a girl though.
Getting Back to Manila:
I've always used the Si-Kat bus / fastcat option. And once again, on a weekend if I can to avoid the heavy weekday Manila traffic. You can buy a ticket in a small store just a few minutes up the road from the supermarket. It's best to buy it at least three days before your departure in case seats are sold out (peak season). They can arrange a trike to get you back to the port as well. The trike will stop at a small ticket office prior to the port where they give you the port tax in coins as it's included in the ticket price.
Puerto Galera to Manila schedule:
11:00 AM Ferry Departure from Balatero Pier, Puerto Galera to Manila.
12:30 PM Arrival at Batangas Pier.
12:30 PM Si-KAT Bus Departure for Manila.
3:30 PM Estimated Arrival in Mabini St. , Ermita, Manila.
Once in Manila:
Prior to the bus getting to Manila, they will have one decent rest stop on the way. If you want to go to the airport, Makati or Angeles, have a word to the lady on the bus and they'll stop to drop you off at their stop before Ermita. From there you can get a Grab or a taxi to the Pasay bus station if your heading to Dau (Angeles) or a Grab or taxi to the airport or to Makati for about 300-400 p.
Well, I hope this may be of assistance. I've just found a lot of schedules and info online about travelling to Sabang is outdated or incorrect. I first went to Sabang once everything opened up post covid and have always had a great time there. I just find it a more scenic option to AC and have always lived by the water, so it suits me. It's also relatively close to Manila. Plus, I met an amazing girl there on my first visit and she never fails to disappoint.
_Phil.
Hi Guys,
As I generally visit Sabang on every trip to the Phils see my regular hottie, I just thought I'd share some useful updated info for the assistance of of others. If you're after an alternative to Angeles and actually have some fun in a place with a decent view surrounded by water, I'd recommend checking it out. It's pretty close to Manila and the girls don't seem to be as aggressive in their approach as they are AC and definitely not like those in Makati from experience......
_Phil.Good 'ol Sabang. It holds some of my best memories for nights out and fun girls. A long time ago but I had some mind altering nights there and have very fond memories of girls that I would repeatedly barfine for weeks at a time.
I'd agree that it has its own tone. Getting there is still relatively easy and quick so it was and is very popular with the foreign expat set. Anyone could finish work on Friday, catch a red eye to Manila and be in Sabang in time for the first dive boats on Saturday morning. That may be a stretch now that the direct boats have stopped but it's still pretty convenient.
The upside of this is that Sabang sees a lot of repeat business rather than a constant flow of gullible tourists. This means that the businesses and girls soon learn the benefit of providing good service to keep guys coming back. Add to this this system of paying 50% bar fine upfront but then the girls portion is at risk and not paid until the morning before she leaves. I assume this is still the case??
One shot runners are becoming more prevalent, like everywhere. However, the normal timeline was a 6 pm start at the bars to secure a hotty, home relatively early for the first shot, a second midnight shot, leave her to sleep in in the morning while the first dive boat goes out, return for a third and final shot, then she goes home early afternoon to start the whole process over.
One of the things that may have been lost to time is that Sabang also had some very good floor shows. Pole dancers were a definite favourite of mine. Certainly much better than the bored shuffle we got elsewhere.
Sabang is definitely a place that should be on the radar of guys looking for mixed diving and girls. Strangely enough, there aren't a lot of them around the Philippines.
Enjoy. G.
I'd agree that it has its own tone. Getting there is still relatively easy and quick so it was and is very popular with the foreign expat set. Anyone could finish work on Friday, catch a red eye to Manila and be in Sabang in time for the first dive boats on Saturday morning. That may be a stretch now that the direct boats have stopped but it's still pretty convenient.
The upside of this is that Sabang sees a lot of repeat business rather than a constant flow of gullible tourists. This means that the businesses and girls soon learn the benefit of providing good service to keep guys coming back. Add to this this system of paying 50% bar fine upfront but then the girls portion is at risk and not paid until the morning before she leaves. I assume this is still the case??
One of the things that may have been lost to time is that Sabang also had some very good floor shows. Pole dancers were a definite favourite of mine. Certainly much better than the bored shuffle we got elsewhere.
Sabang is definitely a place that should be on the radar of guys looking for mixed diving and girls. Strangely enough, there aren't a lot of them around the Philippines.
Enjoy. G.I have to agree G.
It's relatively close to Manila and in my opinion, a lot nicer than AC and Manila primarily because you're by the water in a place a lot nicer than Subic.
I've always had good service there but I do things a little differently in my approach avoiding the bar fines etc. For example, my current girl arrangement is a reward of 1500 p per day. But she knows she's basically guaranteed that pay packet every day I'm there and on a daily basis.
The current Sabang GF was a pole dancer, but gave it away as her teenage kids started to walk down the alley and spot her through the doors of the clubs. She's now just a regular waitress in a 'normal' bar but has still got all the moves.
I've been there enough times now to meet and befriend a lot of locals and business owners, and when prompted about her, they've basically backed up everything she's told me about herself. Having said that, I'm not naive. I realize she's probably got another four of me on the go.
I just find a huge advantage is learning and using some Tagalog when in The Phils. Locals are generally apprehensive to talk about you with other locals or girls while you're present, as they're unsure what you can actually understand.
I enjoy playing the game and Sabang is a nice part of the puzzle and has left me with some very fond memories every time _ Phil.
I have to agree G.
It's relatively close to Manila and in my opinion, a lot nicer than AC and Manila primarily because you're by the water in a place a lot nicer than Subic.
I've always had good service there but I do things a little differently in my approach avoiding the bar fines etc. For example, my current girl arrangement is a reward of 1500 p per day. But she knows she's basically guaranteed that pay packet every day I'm there and on a daily basis.
The current Sabang GF was a pole dancer, but gave it away as her teenage kids started to walk down the alley and spot her through the doors of the clubs. She's now just a regular waitress in a 'normal' bar but has still got all the moves.
I've been there enough times now to meet and befriend a lot of locals and business owners, and when prompted about her, they've basically backed up everything she's told me about herself. Having said that, I'm not naive. I realize she's probably got another four of me on the go.
I just find a huge advantage is learning and using some Tagalog when in The Phils. Locals are generally apprehensive to talk about you with other locals or girls while you're present, as they're unsure what you can actually understand.
I enjoy playing the game and Sabang is a nice part of the puzzle and has left me with some very fond memories every time _ Phil.I concur about learning some Tagalog. If you're there regularly, it is really a must. You get treated differently when they see you are at least trying to learn. They aren't just apprehensive to talk about you, but they actually appreciate it. I tend to get "locals" pricing on everything, even as a foreigner.
The current Sabang GF was a pole dancer, but gave it away as her teenage kids started to walk down the alley and spot her through the doors of the clubs. She's now just a regular waitress in a 'normal' bar but has still got all the moves.
.You're making me jealous. I have many, many great memories of Sabang pole dancers. I'll admit that I was totally kunt struck over several of them for a long time. A couple were completely crazy and had to go after a short but torrid affair. However, the majority were simply great fun, with magnificent toned bodies and fantastic in the sack.
Depending on when she retired, probabaly best you don't give me too many identifying clues about her. LOL.
Cheers. G.
Having said that, I'm not naive. I realize she's probably got another four of me on the go.
I had a special girl in Sabang years ago. I would always fly in and keep her for my whole stay. This happened several times a year and continued for several years. We got on really well, always had a great time and developed a special bond. She was special to me and I was special to her. Then:
Me: Baby, I'm coming back to Sabang. Are you going to be in town after XXXX??
Her: Sure. Sorry who is this? I lost all my contacts.
Me: It's G. I'll be staying at ZZZZ hotel again.
Her: Which G??
Ouch.
LoveItHere69
10-12-24, 22:31
Me: Baby, I'm coming back to Sabang. Are you going to be in town after XXXX??
Her: Sure. Sorry who is this? I lost all my contacts.
Me: It's G. I'll be staying at ZZZZ hotel again.
Her: Which G??.So she has a minimum of 2 guys named Goferring that stay at the same hotel. Possibly more Goferrings that stay at other hotels. I am in tears and pain from learning this. Seriously my tummy hurts and so many tears from laughing so hard.
You're making me jealous. I have many, many great memories of Sabang pole dancers. I'll admit that I was totally kunt struck over several of them for a long time. A couple were completely crazy and had to go after a short but torrid affair. However, the majority were simply great fun, with magnificent toned bodies and fantastic in the sack.
Depending on when she retired, probabaly best you don't give me too many identifying clues about her. LOL.
Cheers. G.Yes G, It's probably best if we don't go there.
What I will say is, a few of the older ones really know how to work 'the pole' compared to the young, greedy things.
(No time wasted on their phones or watching TV in the aircon. Just great bedroom action and they know they'll get rewarded for it and get repeat business).
My phone pings about three times a a day, cause she knows next month, she's basically guaranteed 1500 p a day when I'm back in Sabang.
I travel to The Phils for business and if only some of the companies I deal with were as efficient with their communication as the girls, it would make things a whole lot easier.
-Phil.
KenjiYoshioka
10-14-24, 20:30
I had a special girl in Sabang years ago. I would always fly in and keep her for my whole stay. This happened several times a year and continued for several years. We got on really well, always had a great time and developed a special bond. She was special to me and I was special to her. Then:
Me: Baby, I'm coming back to Sabang. Are you going to be in town after XXXX??
Her: Sure. Sorry who is this? I lost all my contacts.
Me: It's G. I'll be staying at ZZZZ hotel again.
Her: Which G??
Ouch.Either A) she's deliberately trying to hurt your feelings, or B) she has no idea how to play the game.
Either way, that's one stupid *****.
Butuan IV.
The coast is clear so I bus back to Butuan unannounced only to find that DD's is leaving to go to the province for the weekend. Does she want to come over tonight? Sure. But she has to be on the 9 pm bus. It's already 7 so I reply thanks but I'm not in to quickies. Arrive, pump and run does nothing for me. When exactly am I leaving Butuan? Monday. Why? She's won't be back until Monday and can I stay until after that? I guess I could if she makes it worthwhile for me to change my plans? She asks if all day and night with these is worth extending for??
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I cancel the Monday departure and extend the hotel stay.
I had been chatting with, and had a dinner as ground work for, another prospect. This one is totally out of my normal target group. 28, single, no kids, a meaningful degree and impressive work history. Has a very real job in the corporate world. Excellent English and a sensible head on her shoulders. She clearly has some bucks behind her. Just organising dinner was a minefield competing with work commitments and being dog tired after a big day at the office. The second dinner at a nice restaurant goes well. She orders a light meal rather than the most expensive steak or food for 18. She's dressed modestly but can't hide some nice cans. Conversation is flowing. We make each other laugh. Tonight might be the night. Then "have you had dinner with any other girls in Butuan". Just one, I lie. I'm such a fucking idiot: Instant shut down and lock out. Talk about a rookie mistake. I'm sent straight to the Friend Zone. The conversation is still polite. She is still talkative but the tone has changed noticeably. She's now too tired to go find a follow on coffee. Does she want to come back to my place is met with a curt no. I've totally fucked up this one. It's a shame as she is great company and I definitely want to see more of her, both clothed and unclothed. Idiot!!
The next couple of days are a jumble of false starts and trying resurect Corporate Girl. I basically decide on the direct approach and just lay the cards on the table: I enjoy her company but I'm too old for playing Friend Zone games forever. Turns out there are three problems: she's not getting caught going into a 1000 peso hotel for an hour with a foreigner; she's not going to jump into bed with someone after two dates and; she's not going to be a home wrecker or 'the other woman'. Problems 1 & 2 are easily fixed: a night at a Airbnb away from prying eyes; we sleep together and I stop when ever she feels uncomfortable. Problem 3 is a non event because I make it perfectly clear that I'm not looking for a girlfriend and promise this will not be an ongoing affair. She's ok with these so everything is booked for two days later.
I've got a day to wait for the AirBnB and the flood gates open. Some are flakes but some pan out.
Virgin girl messages out of the blue. She's at home doing nothing and her 'bleeding' has stopped. I don't ask or expand on exactly what the bleeding was. A few more chats then: want to come over again? And. Silence. 🤦.
A couple of other girls similarly fade away, busy with work or some other excuse.
Another who came over earlier in the trip doesn't hate me any more. She's also doing nothing at home, with no classes today. I promise the usual deal: two unrushed pops for 1 k. 20 minutes later she knocking on the door. She's not the prettiest but she puts in the effort. 3 full and one aborted pops and a fair attempt at anal later, I'm spent and exhausted. WhatsApp buzzes that another girl is on the way so I reply that I'm out but will call when I'm back in the room. Girlie gets a raise to 1500 for the extra effort and I say it's time for her to leave 'becaise I'm tired'. She actually questioned why I paid her extra.
The girl who brought me the meds a couple of weeks back called earlier and said she wants to meet up before I go. She'll drop around later after lunch. By 3 pm I thought she was a no show so I told the girl above to drop around. As always, she messages that she's on the way at the most inopportune time. One girl goes as one is arriving. Luckily, this is one of those girls who can get blood from a stone. Again, not the prettiest but she delivers in an emergency. An A-grade BBBJ certainly helps. I manage (or she drags out of me) one pop and a fakie. She wants to go eat / buy some lotion / insert random funding request. I have no interest in a shopping trip so beg off saying that I'll just give her the money and she can get what ever she wants. I over pay 2 k for going above and beyond and everyone is happy.
I was worried that DDs is due back today and wants to come over to express her thanks for staying until she returned from the province. There is no way I can muster up the energy to preform for the 24 HR thank you session that she promised. Early evening she messages me. She's back in Butuan but, thankfully, she's got a fever. Is it a fever, a boyfriend, mom's gone nuts, who knows?? But it saves my bacon and she promises to defer to another day before I leave. I'm rapidly running out of days but this will be a priority.
Either A) she's deliberately trying to hurt your feelings, or B) she has no idea how to play the game.
Either way, that's one stupid *****.I read it as humorous.
Butuan IV..Damn those are nice, G. Drooling.
I read it as humorous.That's also how I received it. Many of us guys can get an over inflated sense of worth to the girls.
G.
I was in out in a province town that was a decent size. Got bored and searched online for outcall hotel massage. Got 2 good looking 19&20 yo girls for 600 per hour per girl. One girl would only do HJ for 1. 5 k and the other one would do full service for 7 k. Problem was the 7 k girl keep negotiating for more. Finally settled at 5 k. And other girl would hide in the CR.
Before her clothes go off 5 k girl starts to asked for more and rules now. Pretty hard to maintain a hard one at this point as you guys know. I got a little angry with her and told her to forget it and kicked them both out! LOL. Sometimes kicking them to the curb is better than having a lousy session!
WestCoast1
10-19-24, 06:38
Before her clothes go off 5 k girl starts to asked for more and rules now. Pretty hard to maintain a hard one at this point as you guys know. I got a little angry with her and told her to forget it and kicked them both out! LOL. Sometimes kicking them to the curb is better than having a lousy session!Any girl who causes Sir Westy Junior to dip-the-angle once the clothes come off* gets a quick boot with fare only, or +200 for some foods given her travel time.
* Alternately, even if the angle-of-the-dangle does not drop, any girl who attempts to renegotiate gets the same boot. Its an attempted scam every time. If you say yes to her new and increased peso request, you know you are being ripped off. If you say no and she agrees to stay for the original price, you get a crappy session. No last-minute profiteering.
Any girl who causes Sir Westy Junior to dip-the-angle once the clothes come off* gets a quick boot with fare only, or +200 for some foods given her travel time.
* Alternately, even if the angle-of-the-dangle does not drop, any girl who attempts to renegotiate gets the same boot. Its an attempted scam every time. If you say yes to her new and increased peso request, you know you are being ripped off. If you say no and she agrees to stay for the original price, you get a crappy session. No last-minute profiteering.Update on that.
2 days later I booked the 19 yo again. I just couldn't resist that young tight body. I only had P600 at risk for the hour. She came in and asked massage sir? I said later after full service for 5 k? She smiled and agreed. Mind blowing session! She was a young flower ready to bloom. Bloomed she did. She said she was shy the other day with the other girl around. I found out why, she was a moaner. Which I love!
Later on she referred me to a 20 yo, slightly chubby from the spa. The spa tried to up sell me on 2 girls. I learned my lesson. Only the one ma'am. Miss chub was fantastic and horny as hell. Another province bloomer. Had to extend the session to 2 hours for 2 pops with her. These country bumpkins are amazing.
Old And Ugly
10-19-24, 23:31
Any girl who causes Sir Westy Junior to dip-the-angle once the clothes come off* gets a quick boot with fare only, or +200 for some foods given her travel time.
* Alternately, even if the angle-of-the-dangle does not drop, any girl who attempts to renegotiate gets the same boot. Its an attempted scam every time. If you say yes to her new and increased peso request, you know you are being ripped off. If you say no and she agrees to stay for the original price, you get a crappy session. No last-minute profiteering.I do exactly the same, I gladly give a good tip for a good performance, but if there is any attempt to renegotiate what we agreed for, that's the end of it, it spoils the mood, she will have to go, after that sometimes they try to down sell it, but I'm not interested any more.
WestCoast1
10-20-24, 01:24
Had to extend the session to 2 hours for 2 pops with her. These country bumpkins are amazing.The province is Forrest Gump's box of chocolates. Wildly pleasant things happen. And also the opposite. Don't let one bad experience (or town) stop you from exploring when you have more time on your hands. If you come to a country known as the wild west of sex, expect to kiss some frogs and rock some skinnies.
Any girl who causes Sir Westy Junior to dip-the-angle once the clothes come off* gets a quick boot with fare only, or +200 for some foods given her travel time.
* Alternately, even if the angle-of-the-dangle does not drop, any girl who attempts to renegotiate gets the same boot. Its an attempted scam every time. If you say yes to her new and increased peso request, you know you are being ripped off. If you say no and she agrees to stay for the original price, you get a crappy session. No last-minute profiteering.I sort of agree. Depends on the circumstances. Of course, anyone trying to scam or hold out for more money is straight out the door. However some girls just don't know what is required of them and / or are testing boundaries. I've found that explosive arguments rarely fix anything. Rather, explaining he who has the money makes the rules often does. If that fails, I've also explained to girls that they are welcome to sit around all night on their phone but don't get upset when I don't need to pay them in the morning.
For those that can't be seen as naughty, it's just a game: platonic first dinners are often more than compensated for on the second night. As are offers to come up "to see the room". There are a million of them and I just find it easiest to just play along.
Enjoy. G.
Any girl who causes Sir Westy Junior to dip-the-angle once the clothes come off* gets a quick boot with fare only, or +200 for some foods given her travel time.
* Alternately, even if the angle-of-the-dangle does not drop, any girl who attempts to renegotiate gets the same boot. Its an attempted scam every time. If you say yes to her new and increased peso request, you know you are being ripped off. If you say no and she agrees to stay for the original price, you get a crappy session. No last-minute profiteering.I agree 100% with Westcoast. I had a girl show up the other day who was a friend of a friend from PinaLove and we had agreed to no condom for 3 k pesos before she arrived.
The she arrived and wanted a condom or more money.
I kicked her out and I didn't even give her fare money. I already felt ripped off that I had paid for her first joyride fare good thing it was only 76 pesos.
Not sure how she got back to where she came from and I really don't care.
-Gabacho.
The province is Forrest Gump's box of chocolates. Wildly pleasant things happen. And also the opposite. Don't let one bad experience (or town) stop you from exploring when you have more time on your hands. If you come to a country known as the wild west of sex, expect to kiss some frogs and rock some skinnies.Don't forget that no means no except when it means try again. 😁.
Butuan V.
I finally got the corporate girl to relent for an Airbnb. She still won't fuck me so I've got lock jaw from sucking her ample tits and eating her out all night. I've never been so tired from NOT getting laid. No cash involved and she taxis to work at 06:30. As crazy as it sounds, this is way more fun than to hit and run some brainless 19 yo.
I get the feeling it's all a matter of time. Just waiting to flick the 'I'm shy'ride me hard' switch. I've already seen that when she is comfortable, the wild child comes out. She pulled some Conor McGregor shit last night: jumped on top, held my wrists down on the bed, pinned my shoulders and upper body with her forehead and rode me into the ground. I could not move while she was grinding away. Never had that before. But 'I'm shy'. Bullshit!! 😜.
The same two girls cross paths again. This time one is leaving while the other is waiting in the lobby. Yeah, it was close. The first girl gave a good session before I made up another excuse why it was time to go early. I must be over paying because she seemed truely confused why she was still getting the full 1 k after only one shot. The original deal before the log jam was two shots plus anal over a few hours for 1 k. I think local guys are probably giving her a handshake and that's about all. Luckily the second girl gets sick of waiting and leaves. After a tense few WhatsApp mesages she agrees to return after work. This time she wants some fake nails. Again, my excuse is that I'm not spending all day shopping for nails and makeup so here's 2 k and you can get them yourself. I think I may have set a precedence for over paying but what's an extra $8. The next day, I ignore messages showing her bike in pieces at the mechanic because she doesn't have 1500 for repairs.
I spend a day or two trying to lockdown corporate girl for a dirty weekend. She's great fun to be with but finding gaps in her work, family and social schedule is an absolute nightmare. I'm more use to calling up girls with meaningless jobs and they can talk anytime, often for a couple of hours, while allegedly working. Nails / motorbike girl even dropped around for her sessions during the workday and no-one even missed her for 3 hours. Real jobs and real responsibilities are new to me and truely suck. I'm sure a few will admonish me for simping but with so much pussy on tap it's great to actually spend some time with someone with some brains and life experiences. After a while, time to nutt becomes a meaningless measuring stick.
The dirty weekend is finally a goer. After work on Friday to Monday morning. A not too sleezy Airbnb is booked and I transfer lodgings at 2 pm. I message said girlie and she's all systems go. However, at 8 pm I'm still sitting in the condo. Clearly she's flaked. So now I'm stuck with an apartment I don't want in a area miles form anywhere for the whole weekend. A few moments later, whatsapp rings and she's outside. There was a going away party for someone at work. As predicted she's a good girl for the first three hours. No, she's not ready for sex. We just met. Yada Yada Yada. So I'm resigned to more titty sucking and eating her out. Sitting on my back being waterboarded with pussy juice is a particular favourite. I do have to say, it is some sweet tasting pussy so I didn't object. Shortly after she's stradling me, slowly rocking away, when she leans forward at just the right angle and I'm now slipping inside. Purely by accident of course. She's worried this shouldn't be happening. What is going on?? We shouldn't be doing this!! Meanwhile, she's still grinding away until I'm fully inside. After that, there was no more pretending and the wild child is indeed released.
Many girls tell the story that they haven't had sex for years but their pussy looks like an over stuffed suitcase and they are like fucking a bowl of water. She is the opposite: tight enough that it's a struggle to get a finger in and nothing looks like it's been through a meet grinder.
Old And Ugly
10-21-24, 00:41
Butuan V.
I finally got the corporate girl to relent for an Airbnb. She still won't fuck me so I've got lock jaw from sucking her ample tits and eating her out all night. I've never been so tired from NOT getting laid. No cash involved and she taxis to work at 06:30. As crazy as it sounds, this is way more fun than to hit and run some brainless 19 yo................................................... She's worried this shouldn't be happening. What is going on?? We shouldn't be doing this!! Meanwhile, she's still grinding away until I'm fully inside. After that, there was no more pretending and the wild child is indeed released.
Many girls tell the story that they haven't had sex for years but their pussy looks like an over stuffed suitcase and they are like fucking a bowl of water. She is the opposite: tight enough that it's a struggle to get a finger in and nothing looks like it's been through a meet grinder.It looks like was worth the wait. I worked on my GF for about a month until it happened, same deal univ graduate, high moral grounds, etc. For me was like a new game (I was still getting some on the side) and was, and still is, extremely rewarding.
Couldn't resist calling the 19 yo again. Had another good session with her. This time she is using her nails into my back while moaning softly. Extremely hard not to cum with this response but I was holding on, for another minute!
Later on I called for 20 yo Ms. Chub but she wasn't available. Send me a new one po. Slim 24 yo arrives. Nice body with 2 kids. No body damage. Sexually mature and knows how to softly stroke junior and lightly touch and squeeze the balls.
20 yo Ms. Chub for another day.
WestCoast1
10-22-24, 06:37
Couldn't resist calling the 19 yo again. Had another good session with her. This time she is using her nails into my back while moaning softly. Extremely hard not to cum with this response but I was holding on, for another minute!
Later on I called for 20 yo Ms. Chub but she wasn't available. Send me a new one po. Slim 24 yo arrives. Nice body with 2 kids. No body damage. Sexually mature and knows how to softly stroke junior and lightly touch and squeeze the balls.
20 yo Ms. Chub for another day.Shame what you seem to be suffering thru.
There's talk that the provincial girls can be delightful man-pleasers. Probably just a rumor.
Shame what you seem to be suffering thru.
There's talk that the provincial girls can be delightful man-pleasers. Probably just a rumor.Yes, I had to suffer on. Last day I saw a FB page of a new masseuse 22 yo spinner. Came to the room and was very professional and gave a good massage. Wasn't sure if any extras were available but I asked her. Long pause and what did you have in mind sir? Full service of course. Long pause again then just happens my mother had called and we need food. She has 6 young siblings and she is the bread winner. Her father passed away a few years ago. Normally she makes about 12 k a month and it is enough to feed the family but business has been real slow.
I said glad to help! All I can said is when these province girls let loose they let loose.
Butuan VI.
The dirty weekend with Corporate Girl went really well. She became noticeable more comfortable and inhibitions started to fall. At the end of the weekend, I extended the Airbnb booking and she essentially moved in. Conditions remain the same: no cash payment, I pay her transport to / from work and meet the living expenses. I did agree to fund her brother going to her house daily to check in things, feed her dogs etc. That was a generous 2 k for my entire stay but I'm not arguing. She provides unlimited access and sex is now on tap. My stamina is now the limiting factor, not her concerns or shyness. That's plenty for me so I'm not getting any casual infills during the day or while she is at work. After a long warm up period, the good girl games have fallen away and now she's down for pretty much anything I ask for.
We did another weekend, this time out of town. She was far more relaxed away from the threat of being seen by family and especially workmates. It's was good to be with someone who dressed and acted appropriately. I've travelled with girls before who screamed hooker for hire. They were great fun in bed but out in public they caused non stop stares and commotion. I would often meet regular people during the day, who would happily chat. However, once the hooker arrived, wearing an ounce of clothing and glued to her phone, all conversation ceased. That definitely wasn't the case with corporate girl. She as an individual and we as a couple were accepted everywhere. I did notice that we were pounced upon far more by beggars, porters, guides and others looking for "tips" than when I was by myself. I'm not sure why.
I have noticed a few differences with her from girls who routinely work the foreigner or expat circuit.
Like any pina, you take any assurances of limited past boyfriends and experience with a grain of salt. However, it's obvious that she hasnt spent much time with a foreigner. Long relaxed sessions are totally foreign to her. Short but furious sessions are the norm obviously driven by the lack of privacy and alone time in any Philippines house. Also, despite adamant denials, I'm sure that a lot of her training and experience has come from porn rather than another human being. Positions are the porn favourites. She's extremely active in bed. However, even these mimic a porn show in aggression and exaggerated movements. Several times I've almost been snapped in half or released entirely. If only I had another 6" to stay in like the stars. 😜.
I also had to explain to her the differences between Asian and foreign guys' preferences. She felt a need to appear innocent and inexperienced. It was as if immediately showing any skills in the bedroom identified her as a slutt. I let her know that western guys appreciate experience and enjoy a good time rather than focus on conquering an inexperienced girl. An example would be her initial reluctance to give a BBBJ. This was despite me regularly going down on her on She always seemed to have an excuse: she didn't like it; she didn't know how; she wasn't ready etc. After I complained that it was time to even up the score, that night she gave me an absolute knee trembler. It definitely wasn't her first and she knew exactly what she was doing. However, as I said, she felt the need to plead and show her "inexperience" first.
Enjoy.
Butuan VI.
The dirty weekend with Corporate Girl went really well. She became noticeable more comfortable and inhibitions started to fall. At the end of the weekend, I extended the Airbnb booking and she essentially moved in. Conditions remain the same: no cash payment, I pay her transport to / from work and meet the living expenses. I did agree to fund her brother going to her house daily to check in things, feed her dogs etc. That was a generous 2 k for my entire stay but I'm not arguing. She provides unlimited access and sex is now on tap. My stamina is now the limiting factor, not her concerns or shyness. That's plenty for me so I'm not getting any casual infills during the day or while she is at work. After a long warm up period, the good girl games have fallen away and now she's down for pretty much anything I ask for.
We did another weekend, this time out of town. She was far more relaxed away from the threat of being seen by family and especially workmates. It's was good to be with someone who dressed and acted appropriately. I've travelled with girls before who screamed hooker for hire. They were great fun in bed but out in public they caused non stop stares and commotion. I would often meet regular people during the day, who would happily chat. However, once the hooker arrived, wearing an ounce of clothing and glued to her phone, all conversation ceased. That definitely wasn't the case with corporate girl. She as an individual and we as a couple were accepted everywhere. I did notice that we were pounced upon far more by beggars, porters, guides and others looking for "tips" than when I was by myself. I'm not sure why.
I have noticed a few differences with her from girls who routinely work the foreigner or expat circuit.
Like any pina, you take any assurances of limited past boyfriends and experience with a grain of salt. However, it's obvious that she hasnt spent much time with a foreigner. Long relaxed sessions are totally foreign to her. Short but furious sessions are the norm obviously driven by the lack of privacy and alone time in any Philippines house. Also, despite adamant denials, I'm sure that a lot of her training and experience has come from porn rather than another human being. Positions are the porn favourites. She's extremely active in bed. However, even these mimic a porn show in aggression and exaggerated movements. Several times I've almost been snapped in half or released entirely. If only I had another 6" to stay in like the stars. 😜.
I also had to explain to her the differences between Asian and foreign guys' preferences. She felt a need to appear innocent and inexperienced. It was as if immediately showing any skills in the bedroom identified her as a slutt. I let her know that western guys appreciate experience and enjoy a good time rather than focus on conquering an inexperienced girl. An example would be her initial reluctance to give a BBBJ. This was despite me regularly going down on her on She always seemed to have an excuse: she didn't like it; she didn't know how; she wasn't ready etc. After I complained that it was time to even up the score, that night she gave me an absolute knee trembler. It definitely wasn't her first and she knew exactly what she was doing. However, as I said, she felt the need to plead and show her "inexperience" first.
Enjoy.I've noticed, too, that I get accosted by beggars, porters, etc. , more often when I am with a partner. I think it has to do with culture. Filipinos are, in general, more likely to share with anyone else, even a total stranger. Sharing with those less fortunate is impressive to many women there. Beggars and others know that and will come to you, thinking you will give them (more) to make sure the woman sees it.
As for giving a blow job, I'm thinking that isn't as prevalent there as in the west. Is this true? Personally, it is take it or leave it for me. Other things turn me on a lot more. One partner was eager to try it because, later, she told me she saw it in porn all the time and she thought it's what Americans liked. I told her I enjoy, but not that much. She still will sometimes. My other partner was reluctant, but surprised me one day and tried it. I'm sure it was her first time because of how she did it! When I asked her about it, she said her tradition didn't do that, so she had never done it before. So, it it someone there among Filipinos? I don't know hehehe.
As for giving a blow job, I'm thinking that isn't as prevalent there as in the west. Is this true? I've met two types of girls: those that give the minimum amount of head possible to stop their guy complaining and those that truely get off on it themselves and do it whenever possible. I've never met a girl in between.
This tour of the provinces, I've come across more girls who haven't met a lot of foreigners. I'd agree that the fewer foreigners she has met the less likely she is to give head. That's a general statement. Of course there are always outliers in both directions. My very unscientific explanation is that most pinas don't have the time or privacy to do it much and the guys tend to concentrate on hopping on and getting off.
Enjoy. G.
WestCoast1
10-28-24, 07:19
Positions are the porn favourites. She's extremely active in bed. However, even these mimic a porn show in aggression and exaggerated movements. Several times I've almost been snapped in half. GFE. The horror!
After I complained that it was time to even up the score, that night she gave me an absolute knee trembler. It definitely wasn't her first and she knew exactly what she was doing. However, as I said, she felt the need to plead and show her "inexperience" first.Seems you and DG are soldiering on in the province. This thread has become a good alternative to the AC thread.
Old And Ugly
10-28-24, 08:52
Butuan VI.
The dirty weekend with Corporate Girl went really well. She became noticeable more comfortable and inhibitions started to fall. At the end of the weekend, I extended the Airbnb booking and she essentially moved in. Conditions remain the same: no cash payment, I pay her transport to / from work and meet the living expenses. I did agree to fund her brother going to her house daily to check in things, feed her dogs etc. That was a generous 2 k for my entire stay but I'm not arguing. She provides unlimited access and sex is now on tap. My stamina is now the limiting factor, not her concerns or shyness. That's plenty for me so I'm not getting any casual infills during the day or while she is at work. After a long warm up period, the good girl games have fallen away and now she's down for pretty much anything I ask for.
We did another weekend, this time out of town. She was far more relaxed away from the threat of being seen by family and especially workmates. It's was good to be with someone who dressed and acted appropriately. I've travelled with girls before who screamed hooker for hire. They were great fun in bed but out in public they caused non stop stares and commotion. I would often meet regular people during the day, who would happily chat. However, once the hooker arrived, wearing an ounce of clothing and glued to her phone, all conversation ceased. That definitely wasn't the case with corporate girl. She as an individual and we as a couple were accepted everywhere. I did notice that we were pounced upon far more by beggars, porters, guides and others looking for "tips" than when I was by myself. I'm not sure why.
I have noticed a few differences with her from girls who routinely work the foreigner or expat circuit.
Like any pina, you take any assurances of limited past boyfriends and experience with a grain of salt. However, it's obvious that she hasnt spent much time with a foreigner. Long relaxed sessions are totally foreign to her. Short but furious sessions are the norm obviously driven by the lack of privacy and alone time in any Philippines house. Also, despite adamant denials, I'm sure that a lot of her training and experience has come from porn rather than another human being. Positions are the porn favourites. She's extremely active in bed. However, even these mimic a porn show in aggression and exaggerated movements. Several times I've almost been snapped in half or released entirely. If only I had another 6" to stay in like the stars. 😜.
I also had to explain to her the differences between Asian and foreign guys' preferences. She felt a need to appear innocent and inexperienced. It was as if immediately showing any skills in the bedroom identified her as a slutt. I let her know that western guys appreciate experience and enjoy a good time rather than focus on conquering an inexperienced girl. An example would be her initial reluctance to give a BBBJ. This was despite me regularly going down on her on She always seemed to have an excuse: she didn't like it; she didn't know how; she wasn't ready etc. After I complained that it was time to even up the score, that night she gave me an absolute knee trembler. It definitely wasn't her first and she knew exactly what she was doing. However, as I said, she felt the need to plead and show her "inexperience" first.
Enjoy.I'm not good at writing, but this is an accurate description of what I went thru about a year ago, including the porn star positions, the initial shyness, and especially the public appearance (we are still working on that one), and this is the reason for our multiple visits to AC, where she's not inhibited at all, and brings to life all her fantasies (for my delight). The only difference is that it took me way longer, more than one month of secret rendez-vous and public games like in the spy movies, acting like strangers, before we did it.
Butuan VII & The End.
Unfortunately, all good things need to come to an end. Funwise, there isn't much to add to the last report. Corporate Girl and I returned from the weekend away and she continued to stay every day in my AirBnB. Sex was great, on tap and only slowed down the very last days of my stay when her period rolled in. Even then, she still compensated with BBBJs and even a HJ so there was no need to change her out just for a day or two. Actually the HJ was a relaxing end to a pretty frantic few weeks.
I won't update my "free" sex posts as it also remained the same: no direct cash payments, just living and transport expenses. Towards the end I was in a quandary about how to handle the parting "gift". I felt I should give something but knew a payment for services would not be well received. I've had a couple of good girls in the past go absolutely nuts after I've paid them too much. The best solution I could come up with was to round up the grocery / shopping money. I probably "accidentally" over spent 1 or 2 k when she went to grab things at SM. I actually gave her more but she always seemed to spend the change on trinkets and food for me rather than keeping it as I intended.
A few standout positives for the trip.
59 days gave plenty of time to go slow, put in ground work where required and see plenty of people and places. It also allowed a quick lap of where I was going first, only stopping a few days at each place to decide on what's good and then a second, much slower, lap already knowing where to stay, what to do and where to go.
Bus transport was great as it allowed so much flexibility and spontaneity.
I met the whole range of girls: starting with the typical 19 yo airheads and young single mom's; progressing to repeating with skilled favourites and; finally settling with a sensible but skilled good girl. I even branched out to a few outside the norm: a set of mega tits, a plane Jane mom who did her best to kill me and a preggo to name a few.
I thoroughly enjoyed getting away from the typical monger haunts. Girls were much fresher, better attitudes and simply more fun too. Costs were rediculously low compared to $200 barfines and lady drinks.
Would I do it again / recommend a similar tour to others? For those who are self sufficient and have the time, sure.
Enjoy. G.
Butuan VII & The End.
Unfortunately, all good things need to come to an end. Funwise, there isn't much to add to the last report. Corporate Girl and I returned from the weekend away and she continued to stay every day in my AirBnB. Sex was great, on tap and only slowed down the very last days of my stay when her period rolled in. Even then, she still compensated with BBBJs and even a HJ so there was no need to change her out just for a day or two. Actually the HJ was a relaxing end to a pretty frantic few weeks.
I won't update my "free" sex posts as it also remained the same: no direct cash payments, just living and transport expenses. Towards the end I was in a quandary about how to handle the parting "gift". I felt I should give something but knew a payment for services would not be well received. I've had a couple of good girls in the past go absolutely nuts after I've paid them too much. The best solution I could come up with was to round up the grocery / shopping money. I probably "accidentally" over spent 1 or 2 k when she went to grab things at SM. I actually gave her more but she always seemed to spend the change on trinkets and food for me rather than keeping it as I intended.
A few standout positives for the trip.
59 days gave plenty of time to go slow, put in ground work where required and see plenty of people and places. It also allowed a quick lap of where I was going first, only stopping a few days at each place to decide on what's good and then a second, much slower, lap already knowing where to stay, what to do and where to go.
Bus transport was great as it allowed so much flexibility and spontaneity.
I met the whole range of girls: starting with the typical 19 yo airheads and young single mom's; progressing to repeating with skilled favourites and; finally settling with a sensible but skilled good girl. I even branched out to a few outside the norm: a set of mega tits, a plane Jane mom who did her best to kill me and a preggo to name a few.
I thoroughly enjoyed getting away from the typical monger haunts. Girls were much fresher, better attitudes and simply more fun too. Costs were rediculously low compared to $200 barfines and lady drinks.
Would I do it again / recommend a similar tour to others? For those who are self sufficient and have the time, sure.
Enjoy. G.I enjoyed reading about your provincial adventure! I have had technically good sex from working girls in Manila, but nothing matches the energy and sincerity that the girls in the provinces have. It isn't about cost. It's just that the experience is beyond compare. And, I know this is a mongering forum, but your chance of finding a Filipina that wants something real and that will take you to meet her family and see how she really lives is a real possibility. And I'm not talking about someone who wants a meal ticket, but something real. I'm lucky enough to have done it twice. The best month of my life was spent with a Filipina living in a bamboo house, cooking with firewood, limited electricity, and drinking filtered spring water. And the sex was very inexperienced, but the most passionately uninhibited that I have ever experienced. And I'm crazy enough to say that I’d prefer that to Manila any day!
I enjoyed reading about your provincial adventure! I have had technically good sex from working girls in Manila, but nothing matches the energy and sincerity that the girls in the provinces have. Thanks. I'd agree that provincial girls take a lot of work but pay dividends to those who make the investment.
G.
WestCoast1
11-02-24, 14:41
The best month of my life was spent with a Filipina living in a bamboo house, cooking with firewood, limited electricity, and drinking filtered spring water. And the sex was very inexperienced, but the most passionately uninhibited that I have ever experienced. And I'm crazy enough to say that Id prefer that to Manila any day!Girls who are happy with a simple life, sing while they prepare food, smile a lot, and ooze sex. Compare / contrast that with western women.
Girls who are happy with a simple life, sing while they prepare food, smile a lot, and ooze sex. Compare / contrast that with western women.Or a girl singing while she's squatting and cutting the hotel grass with a pair of scissors and within half an hour, she's squatting on you in your hotel room on an island off Cebu _ Oh, the memories _ got to love the Phils _ Phil.
I thoroughly enjoyed getting away from the typical monger haunts. Girls were much fresher, better attitudes and simply more fun too. Costs were rediculously low compared to $200 barfines and lady drinks.
Would I do it again / recommend a similar tour to others? For those who are self sufficient and have the time, sure.
Enjoy. G.Great reports and great reading G.
As my business restricts me to 3-4 business trips a year it makes it difficult to delve deep into the provinces at length. However, I generally try to venture somewhere else each time on a side trip. It makes it so worthwhile to try alternatives other than the typical monger haunts, bar fines, lady drinks etc.
My next trip is in about three weeks, and although Sabang has your typical bar scene, I'm heading down there again to see my little horizontal gymnast as it's an easy trip from Manila once the business stuff is out of the way.
I've always found that once you get out of the big cities (and that can be anywhere in the world) you get a better experience. It might take a bit more work, but very worthwhile and another contact to put in your book for future visits _ Phil.
Trip summary for my own benefit. Search Term Mindanao.
Makati.
Surigao.
Butuan
I arrived in CDO
Just arrived in Davao
Davao.
Battle of the generations.
Davao cintinued.
Davao Continues II.
Davao Continues III.Spinner
Butuan I. DDs arrives
Butuan II
Butuan II(b). Almost a Vorgin
Butuan III. DDs busted by mom
Surigao II
Butuan IV. Corporate Girl.
Butuan V.
Butuan VI.
Butuan VII & The End.
My next trip is in about three weeks, and although Sabang has your typical bar scene, I'm heading down there again to see my little horizontal gymnast as it's an easy trip from Manila once the business stuff is out of the way.
I'm just wondering out loud if you have ever gone further afield in Mindoro or even taken your girl sight seeing?? Calapan, White Beach, even Puerto Galera proper?
I know a few guys who have ridden around the island several times. Obviously not a mongering trip but they always spoke highly of the areas outside Sabang as well.
Enjoy. G.
Old And Ugly
11-03-24, 09:51
I'm just wondering out loud if you have ever gone further afield in Mindoro or even taken your girl sight seeing?? Calapan, White Beach, even Puerto Galera proper?
I know a few guys who have ridden around the island several times. Obviously not a mongering trip but they always spoke highly of the areas outside Sabang as well.
Enjoy. G.Beautiful scenery, beautiful girls, lots of buffaloes, water falls, some beaches, dirt roads, friendly locals, few expats, and of course right in the middle of nowhere, up in the mountains, accessible only by kalabaw drawn carts or motorbike: koreans.
Locamotive
11-03-24, 22:38
Beautiful scenery, beautiful girls, lots of buffaloes, water falls, some beaches, dirt roads, friendly locals, few expats, and of course right in the middle of nowhere, up in the mountains, accessible only by kalabaw drawn carts or motorbike: koreans.True I've been out in the sticks a few times and yes there are some beauties out there. Problem is for the 2 week warrior these places take time. In retirement these will be on my list for exploration.
I'm just wondering out loud if you have ever gone further afield in Mindoro or even taken your girl sight seeing?? Calapan, White Beach, even Puerto Galera proper?
I know a few guys who have ridden around the island several times. Obviously not a mongering trip but they always spoke highly of the areas outside Sabang as well.
Enjoy. G.Hi G,
Yes I've gone for a ride with a few girls and seen a bit more other than Sabang.
White Beach is a bit sleepy in comparison, but worth a trip and it's really close.
It's more geared to those locals fleeing Manila for an escape. The hotels all seem to be old and dated and the beach is average, and nothing like the islands off Cebu like Bantayan.
The place gets packed during Phils holidays so there looked to be a chance to pick up a Manila tourist, but that can be slightly difficult when you have your own girl hanging off your arm. However, the first time I went there for a look I was solo and it was 11 am and I had guys approaching me asking if I was interested in a local girl.
Puerto Galera proper is worth a look, but not much happens there apart from everyday business for the locals.
I've also had a few side trips with a few girls and taken them out to lunch at places like small secluded beaches along the Western Nautical Highway.
Apart from that, I'm fairly restricted to my time when in Mindoro, so I haven't seen as much as I'd like to.
I'll see what else I can discover during my next visit later this month.
The Sabang GF does 'the business' with me during daylight hours and works in a non-girly bar at night, so I'll see if I'm prepared to forgo some daylight fun to explore the local landscape when I return.
_ Phil.
Looks like you have found the unicorn. Those to Pau de Acucar definitely gives out some serious ray of hope.
Butuan IV.
The coast is clear so I bus back to Butuan unannounced only to find that DD's is leaving to go to the province for the weekend. Does she want to come over tonight? Sure. But she has to be on the 9 pm bus. It's already 7 so I reply thanks but I'm not in to quickies. Arrive, pump and run does nothing for me. When exactly am I leaving Butuan? Monday. Why? She's won't be back until Monday and can I stay until after that? I guess I could if she makes it worthwhile for me to change my plans? She asks if all day and night with these is worth extending for??
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I cancel the Monday departure and extend the hotel stay.
I had been chatting with, and had a dinner as ground work for, another prospect. This one is totally out of my normal target group. 28, single, no kids, a meaningful degree and impressive work history. Has a very real job in the corporate world. Excellent English and a sensible head on her shoulders. She clearly has some bucks behind her. Just organising dinner was a minefield competing with work commitments and being dog tired after a big day at the office. The second dinner at a nice restaurant goes well. She orders a light meal rather than the most expensive steak or food for 18. She's dressed modestly but can't hide some nice cans. Conversation is flowing. We make each other laugh. Tonight might be the night. Then "have you had dinner with any other girls in Butuan". Just one, I lie. I'm such a fucking idiot: Instant shut down and lock out. Talk about a rookie mistake. I'm sent straight to the Friend Zone. The conversation is still polite. She is still talkative but the tone has changed noticeably. She's now too tired to go find a follow on coffee. Does she want to come back to my place is met with a curt no. I've totally fucked up this one. It's a shame as she is great company and I definitely want to see more of her, both clothed and unclothed. Idiot!!
The next couple of days are a jumble of false starts and trying resurect Corporate Girl. I basically decide on the direct approach and just lay the cards on the table: I enjoy her company but I'm too old for playing Friend Zone games forever. Turns out there are three problems: she's not getting caught going into a 1000 peso hotel for an hour with a foreigner; she's not going to jump into bed with someone after two dates and; she's not going to be a home wrecker or 'the other woman'. Problems 1 & 2 are easily fixed: a night at a Airbnb away from prying eyes; we sleep together and I stop when ever she feels uncomfortable. Problem 3 is a non event because I make it perfectly clear that I'm not looking for a girlfriend and promise this will not be an ongoing affair. She's ok with these so everything is booked for two days later.
I've got a day to wait for the AirBnB and the flood gates open. Some are flakes but some pan out.
Virgin girl messages out of the blue. She's at home doing nothing and her 'bleeding' has stopped. I don't ask or expand on exactly what the bleeding was. A few more chats then: want to come over again? And. Silence. 🤦.
A couple of other girls similarly fade away, busy with work or some other excuse.
Another who came over earlier in the trip doesn't hate me any more. She's also doing nothing at home, with no classes today. I promise the usual deal: two unrushed pops for 1 k. 20 minutes later she knocking on the door. She's not the prettiest but she puts in the effort. 3 full and one aborted pops and a fair attempt at anal later, I'm spent and exhausted. WhatsApp buzzes that another girl is on the way so I reply that I'm out but will call when I'm back in the room. Girlie gets a raise to 1500 for the extra effort and I say it's time for her to leave 'becaise I'm tired'. She actually questioned why I paid her extra.
The girl who brought me the meds a couple of weeks back called earlier and said she wants to meet up before I go. She'll drop around later after lunch. By 3 pm I thought she was a no show so I told the girl above to drop around. As always, she messages that she's on the way at the most inopportune time. One girl goes as one is arriving. Luckily, this is one of those girls who can get blood from a stone. Again, not the prettiest but she delivers in an emergency. An A-grade BBBJ certainly helps. I manage (or she drags out of me) one pop and a fakie. She wants to go eat / buy some lotion / insert random funding request. I have no interest in a shopping trip so beg off saying that I'll just give her the money and she can get what ever she wants. I over pay 2 k for going above and beyond and everyone is happy.
I was worried that DDs is due back today and wants to come over to express her thanks for staying until she returned from the province. There is no way I can muster up the energy to preform for the 24 HR thank you session that she promised. Early evening she messages me. She's back in Butuan but, thankfully, she's got a fever. Is it a fever, a boyfriend, mom's gone nuts, who knows?? But it saves my bacon and she promises to defer to another day before I leave. I'm rapidly running out of days but this will be a priority.
G.
I was going through your Mindanao Sexpedition, pretty fascinating to see your action. Bravo!
On a side note, I live for big boobs, should send to my way, LOL.
You know the crazy thing? I don't even like big tits.
G.
I was going through your Mindanao Sexpedition, pretty fascinating to see your action. Bravo!
On a side note, I live for big boobs, should send to my way, LOL.Thanks.
Join the queue. 😜.
Unfortunately I don't give out contact details but big tits are very common in Mindanao. For a first visit, I'd start in Davao and go from there.
Enjoy. G.
Thanks for the tip on Mindanao G. I'm mostly checking Davao and surrounding areas. Any other places that I should look into?
How many more on the Que ahead of me, LMAO. It was more of a figurative expression instead of asking for contact. I prefer to hunt my own meat, LOL.
After our last conversation I had managed to find one form Iligan but ended up losing her to an old man with cylinder, LOL. It's on my Manila trip report which kinda ended in Disaster but it is what it is.
I was telling myself never again to Philippines but here I am, searching and reading and radiating, LOL. Not sure what's wrong with me.
Quite question G, Besides Pina Love and FnF, any other sources that I should explore? I don't do GoGo or Bar girls anymore.
Thanks.
Join the queue. 😜.
Unfortunately I don't give out contact details but big tits are very common in Mindanao. For a first visit, I'd start in Davao and go from there..
Thanks for the tip on Mindanao G. I'm mostly checking Davao and surrounding areas. Any other places that I should look into?
How many more on the Que ahead of me?
After our last conversation I had managed to find one form Iligan
I was telling myself never again to Philippines but here I am, searching and reading and radiating, LOL. Not sure what's wrong with me.
Quite question G, Besides Pina Love and FnF, any other sources that I should explore? I don't do GoGo or Bar girls anymore.Davao is definitely the best place to start as it's the largest city, has the most girls, is the safest and its easy to find ones way around. Stay Downtown near Peoples Park so that it's easy for the girls to find you and there is lots for you to see and do during off times. I'm yet to go but many speak highly of Gensan girls so it's on my radar for next trip.
The queue is long enough that I actually asked her if I can give her number to some friends who like big tits. The answer was a hard no. Apparently she loves only me and is waiting at home with her legs crossed for the day that I return. We all know the real story but it sounds good.
Just be a little cautious how far south west you do go. Research the safe and unsafe areas as there are some areas that should be avoided.
Famous last words: last time to go to the Philippines.
Last trip I was 100% pinalove. Filipino Cupid is slightly more up market and has better search options. Don't rule out starting a conversation in a mall or walking around. Girls are amazingly approachable but may need some ground work before doing the deed. If you are there long enough, a friend's and family program works wonders.
Enjoy. G.
Davao is definitely the best place to start as it's the largest city, has the most girls, is the safest and its easy to find ones way around. Stay Downtown near Peoples Park so that it's easy for the girls to find you and there is lots for you to see and do during off times. I'm yet to go but many speak highly of Gensan girls so it's on my radar for next trip.
The queue is long enough that I actually asked her if I can give her number to some friends who like big tits. The answer was a hard no. Apparently she loves only me and is waiting at home with her legs crossed for the day that I return. We all know the real story but it sounds good.
Just be a little cautious how far south west you do go. Research the safe and unsafe areas as there are some areas that should be avoided.
Famous last words: last time to go to the Philippines.
Last trip I was 100% pinalove. Filipino Cupid is slightly more up market and has better search options. Don't rule out starting a conversation in a mall or walking around. Girls are amazingly approachable but may need some ground work before doing the deed. If you are there long enough, a friend's and family program works wonders.
Enjoy. G.In my experience, the Philippines is quite safe if you are with a trusted local and if you use your head. First rule is mind your own business. If you see something you shouldn't, leave. Go somewhere else for a while. Stay with your girl. And not one you met online two days ago. Meet in the city, spend some time, then go exploring in the province with her. If you do the above, and use common sense, the worst you should encounter is petty theft.
Mindanao was home to a Muslim insurgency for a long time, but that has been over for quite a while. The NPA insurgency is ongoing in many provincial areas. And not just in Mindanao. Locals know what is going on. Listen to them. My partner and I had planned on going to Lake Holon, but we got word NPA was camped out and the Philippine army was going after them. We stayed away, and there was a big firefight the next day. That being said, in south Luzon, I've had encounters with NPA waayyyy out in the province where my wife is from. It is a real concern, but stay near the smaller cities and you will be okay.
In my experience, the Philippines is quite safe if you are with a trusted local and if you use your head....I'd agree. When things go bad there is always a backstory: jealous husband; greedy relatives; slighted business partners; lots of others.
Keep a sensible head and anyone can have a lot of fun and meet many many kind people.
Enjoy. G.
Old And Ugly
11-10-24, 22:10
I'd agree. When things go bad there is always a backstory: jealous husband; greedy relatives; slighted business partners; lots of others.
Keep a sensible head and anyone can have a lot of fun and meet many many kind people.
Enjoy. G.I did get out of some possible sticky situations a few times.
I remember one time in my travels I met a girl on a deserted beach, we talked, we ate in a local carinderia, took her to a makeshift karaoke joint, and we ended up in my room in a bungalow that I was renting. Beautiful girl, lovely, killer body, and she came back next day for a repeat, no money involved, on the third day we texted, then called, and she said that I have to go to the next village where she was living to pick her up because she doesn't have any means of transportation, while she was trying to explain where I have to meet her, I heard 2 male voices in the background giving her instructions in tagalog (I didn't understood), I didn't say nothing, and I played along, but I told her that I will go only the next day because there was something wrong with my motorbike, and is getting fixed, and it may not be done until late. Maybe was some sort of trap, maybe not, but I didn't take any chances, I packed my backpack and took the last bus out of town. Anyway my stay there was long enough, and nothing else happened beside this beautiful encounter, which I wish would have lasted a few weeks longer, but I remembered that I was alone in the middle of nowhere, yes my friends back home knew where I was, but what can they do anyway, from thousands of miles away if I go dark?
Another time in AC I BF a beautiful girl from one of the perimeter bars 8-9, looked like the singer Sade, we agreed on LT, she was ok, not spectacular in bed. Later in the evening we ate something in the korean restaurant across from Paradise. She subjected me to the standard interrogation, and something from my answers did lit up a bulb in her head, she started texting someone, then a phone call, with a male voice at the other end, I asked who, and she said that it was her husband, but no problem he knows what she's doing. After going back to the room, I was staying in Royal Amsterdam, she fucked my brains out, like a wild beast, and made sure that I CIP, soon after another phone call to he husband, reporting that the deed was done, both sounded very happy. At this moment a child support scam scenario started to assemble in my head, and I started to give out more personal info than necessary, but leading in the wrong direction. I never keep them overnight, even if I pay LT, so I let her go, with the promise that I will go BF her next day also, and I will take her shopping, then back to the hotel. Of course I didn't set foot in any of the perimeter bars for a long time, and if she came back to the hotel asking for the name I gave her was non existing. Again, I don't know if I have a vivid imagination, or was real, the feeling about what was going on, but, better be safe than sorry.
I have many more stories like these taking place in different countries. I did take many much more stupid risks in my life, and I never landed in any real trouble, but sometimes, I just go with the gut feeling, and avoid what may become a bad situation.
Steve Nash
11-13-24, 09:38
Sorry for the delay in answering, haven't been there yet but planning a trip there this year. Wanted to get some info to make things easier and not waste time trying to figure stuff out once there.I just saw your message about Bacolod, did you ended up going there?
I stayed there many months during COVID (2020 to 2023), I loved Bacolod! After Cebu City and Boracay, Bacolod is third on my list of cities to retired in Philippines, I know alot of expats like Duma better but for me Bacolod is better, less foreigners so is more easier to hook-up with regular Filipinas, dating apps doesn't help much compared to other cities, but I still hook-up with some girls from Pinalove, FilipinoCupid and Tinder. In Bacolod is better to meet girls in the street, like in bars / nightclubs: MO2 Ice Bar, Cista, La Jefa, MO2 Wave, the bars around Lacson Street, or in the malls SM Bacolod, Ayala, and Robinson, even in the Plaza or the big church (Cathedral) you can meet girls, also you can meet callcenter girls in the Lagoon or in NGC (New Government Center), you can bring your dates in Marketplace (beside NGC) where there are alot of bars with live bands and karaoke, it gets busy at night time. In Goldenfields, there are a couple of girly bars but I can not say if they are good or not since I never went inside (girly bars is not my thing), but there are 2-3 nice normal bars there, my favourite one close down after COVID, the other one (Chicken Alley) has live bands and is nice to chillout with friends and dates. Goldenfields is popular for short hotels, also another short hotel in Alijis close to Goldenfields, another one close to the Lagoon, and another one in Bata. Those 4 short hotels were my favourite ones for 2-3 hours I think they were 300 php back then. Like I said you can easily meet girls in all those places I mention, or you can meet them for your first date. The 3 nightclubs I mention: MO2 Ice Bar, Cista and La Jefa, lots of young crowd, like late teens and early 20's, specially in Cista. Is possible to meet young girls and hookup with them (just make sure they are 18+), you just need to join their group because the girls there are mostly in groups of friends, I mostly got their number and hookup another day, only once I hookup the night I met them and party with them, their friends are very protective so they won't let you take them to your place when they are drunk and young.
I really miss Bacolod, but I doubt I will go back there any time soon since I'm not planning to go back to Philippines for another 2-3 years.
P.S. Another way to meet girls is by becoming friends on Facebook and start adding their friends and start chatting with them, try to have 2 accounts so your friend won't notice that you are chatting with her friends and she won't get jealous or mention that you already hookup, remember, the hotter the girl is the hotter her friends will be.
Hi Guys,
Just letting you know I'll be back in Sabang in about a week.
I'll be spending most of my time with my local contact.
She used to work as a Mama but now works as a waitress in a non-gogo bar.
I'm sure she'll be able to share some tips on the best bars happening there at the moment.
I'll share whatever info I can _ Phil.
Hi Guys,
Just letting you know I'll be back in Sabang in about a week.
I'll be spending most of my time with my local contact.
She used to work as a Mama but now works as a waitress in a non-gogo bar.
I'm sure she'll be able to share some tips on the best bars happening there at the moment.
I'll share whatever info I can _ Phil.There was a German bar manager who took over decrepit bars and transformed them. He ran a tight ship, had his shit together and his bars were always a fun night. A little K focused but whites were still welcome and many girls would still show us a good time. He rebuilt the old Vegas into Midnight and the upstairs disco into Quantum. I fell madly in love with several of his pole dancers. When I stopped going (years ago) there was talk of him taking over a third bar. ID be interested to hear if this happened and how his bars are going now.
Unfortunately, the other old bars couldn't compete for atmosphere. They hadn't seen a coat of paint in maybe 20 years and aircons barely worked if at all.
Sabang's saving grace always was that the bar fine was half down (paid at the bar) and half paid in the morning. This prevented runners and the number of repeat visitors meant that girls were keen to keep repeat business. I understand that the girls attitudes may have dropped off a little but hopefully the half down is still in place.
Strangely enough, some of the wildest nights were when the bar doors were shut. Coco Lips often held private parties which were invite only. When the doors were locked the girls were free to really let their hair down and some of those nights were legendary.
Enjoy. I had many great nights and memories in Sabang.
G.
There was a German bar manager who took over decrepit bars and transformed them. He ran a tight ship, had his shit together and his bars were always a fun night. A little K focused but whites were still welcome and many girls would still show us a good time. He rebuilt the old Vegas into Midnight and the upstairs disco into Quantum. I fell madly in love with several of his pole dancers. When I stopped going (years ago) there was talk of him taking over a third bar. ID be interested to hear if this happened and how his bars are going now.
Unfortunately, the other old bars couldn't compete for atmosphere. They hadn't seen a coat of paint in maybe 20 years and aircons barely worked if at all.
Sabang's saving grace always was that the bar fine was half down (paid at the bar) and half paid in the morning. This prevented runners and the number of repeat visitors meant that girls were keen to keep repeat business. I understand that the girls attitudes may have dropped off a little but hopefully the half down is still in place.
Strangely enough, some of the wildest nights were when the bar doors were shut. Coco Lips often held private parties which were invite only. When the doors were locked the girls were free to really let their hair down and some of those nights were legendary.Enjoy. I had many great nights and memories in Sabang.
G.Hi G,
I'll see what 'intelligence' I can can up with.
I've been previously told by the locals that most of the gogos change hands frequently or have been snapped up by the Koreans.
(There's a new Korean restaurant / business popping up every time I return).
I'll try and sneak the Sabang GF into a few clubs, if and when, she gets a night off work from her normal bar duties. We see each other through the day.
As mentioned previously and for the benefit of new members, I line up my talent by avoiding the whole gogo scene and compensate the girls accordingly. At less than half the price.
IE: Avoiding bar fines, lady drinks etc.
The only way to go as an experienced visitor.
_ Just my experience _ Phil.
I'll try and sneak the Sabang GF into a few clubs, if and when, she gets a night off work from her normal bar duties. We see each other through the day.Tread carefully. Girlfriends are welcome in Sabang bars. (I could tell several stories of couples barfining girls only for hubby to be locked out when they returned back to the room). However, if she is an ex worker, check that she left on good terms with no unpaid debts etc. The bars there have a 'bar out' fee where a girl's suitor has to pay for her to permanently leave the bar. If this is not paid, then she becomes a persona non grata and isn't welcome anywhere.
No need to be paranoid but if she's reluctant to go into the bars, I wouldn't push the matter.
Cheers. G.
Tread carefully. Girlfriends are welcome in Sabang bars. (I could tell several stories of couples barfining girls only for hubby to be locked out when they returned back to the room). However, if she is an ex worker, check that she left on good terms with no unpaid debts etc. The bars there have a 'bar out' fee where a girl's suitor has to pay for her to permanently leave the bar. If this is not paid, then she becomes a persona non grata and isn't welcome anywhere.
No need to be paranoid but if she's reluctant to go into the bars, I wouldn't push the matter.
Cheers. G.You have all this down to a tee. I loo forward to buying your bestseller.
You have all this down to a tee. I loo forward to buying your bestseller.Thanks. All jokes aside, if you're looking for a good read about life as a monger expat search for the 'Hardship Posting' series. From memory, three of four volumes of hilarious short stories that no Joe Q Citizen back home would ever believe could happen.
They are pretty old now but likely still available on Amazon.
Cheers. G.
Tread carefully. Girlfriends are welcome in Sabang bars. (I could tell several stories of couples barfining girls only for hubby to be locked out when they returned back to the room). However, if she is an ex worker, check that she left on good terms with no unpaid debts etc. The bars there have a 'bar out' fee where a girl's suitor has to pay for her to permanently leave the bar. If this is not paid, then she becomes a persona non grata and isn't welcome anywhere.
No need to be paranoid but if she's reluctant to go into the bars, I wouldn't push the matter.
Cheers. G.No need to worry G.
The GF knows the ropes. She's a mature local (everyone knows her) and has worked at many bars as a mama in the past.
And if I did visit the bars with her, it would only be for research purposes.
In addition to being an amazing horizontal performer, she's a great source of knowledge when it comes to the local bar scene.
In a relatively small stretch of bars along a little alley in Sabang, everyone involved in making money have their eyes wide open.
I'll do my best to share further info when I return next week.
_ Phil.
Alexandra2525
11-20-24, 16:55
Hi guys.
Hoping some of you seasoned Ph vets can assist. I've never been to Ph but am hoping to get there in January.
My background is that I'm married and have no legitimate business in Ph. I'll be in India on business and then hope to fly to Ph. Because of my marital status I need a cover story wherever I go or I'll get endless questions.
As a result it's very difficult to just stay in Manila for a week because wife knows I get bored of virtually any city within 48 hours. However if there is sea, snorkeling, diving or something else worth seeing I can use that as cover for mongering. Somewhere like AC is completely out because there is absolutely nothing else to do there other than monger.
So I'm looking for suggestions for places that have a nice beach, water based activities etc (or something else touristy) AND decent mongering options.
Just to make things a bit more complicated the Mrs knows that I wouldn't normally stay anywhere other than a 5 star hotel, so if I'm suddenly staying in a three star out in the wilderness somewhere she'll know something is up (hope this doesn't come across as snobbish, its not how it was meant).
I'm happy to take a flight from Manila to anywhere in Ph. In terms of girls I'm not a 9 or 10 hunter. I much prefer a 6 who gives good GFE and I like chubby girls and milfs LOL.
Any guidance greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
As a result it's very difficult to just stay in Manila for a week because wife knows I get bored of virtually any city within 48 hours. However if there is sea, snorkeling, diving or something else worth seeing I can use that as cover for mongering. Somewhere like AC is completely out because there is absolutely nothing else to do there other than monger.
So I'm looking for suggestions for places that have a nice beach, water based activities etc (or something else touristy) AND decent mongering options.
Just to make things a bit more complicated the Mrs knows that I wouldn't normally stay anywhere other than a 5 star hotel, so if I'm suddenly staying in a three star out in the wilderness somewhere she'll know something is up (hope this doesn't come across as snobbish, its not how it was meant)...If girls are the priority you have Sabang and Cebu. Both have some very nice accommodation options and girls on tap. For Cebu you want to stay in town, near Ayala, so that the girls can find you, rather than one of the remote resorts. For Sabang, _Phil has given detailed transport methods or any good hotel will provide door to door transport options. Note that the diving is great there but snorkeling is very limited and Jan has the coldest water temps.
Dumaguete is another option. It has great day and boat trips so you will get some very plausible pics and IG posts for back home. You can even stay on the water front at Dauin. Girls are available but it's more work than the other two due to the number of foreigners in town.
Sabang has a very active bar scene. Cebu is the online dating capital of the Philippines with literally '00's of girls online at any one time. Duma has WhyNot bar and a small online scene. In all cases I probably wouldn't fall in love in Manila and BYO. I'm not aware of any having outcall escort options like you were asking about Manila Courtesans.
Enjoy. G.
Old And Ugly
11-20-24, 19:17
Hi guys.
Hoping some of you seasoned Ph vets can assist. I've never been to Ph but am hoping to get there in January.
My background is that I'm married and have no legitimate business in Ph. I'll be in India on business and then hope to fly to Ph. Because of my marital status I need a cover story wherever I go or I'll get endless questions.
As a result it's very difficult to just stay in Manila for a week because wife knows I get bored of virtually any city within 48 hours. However if there is sea, snorkeling, diving or something else worth seeing I can use that as cover for mongering. Somewhere like AC is completely out because there is absolutely nothing else to do there other than monger.
So I'm looking for suggestions for places that have a nice beach, water based activities etc (or something else touristy) AND decent mongering options.
Just to make things a bit more complicated the Mrs knows that I wouldn't normally stay anywhere other than a 5 star hotel, so if I'm suddenly staying in a three star out in the wilderness somewhere she'll know something is up (hope this doesn't come across as snobbish, its not how it was meant).
I'm happy to take a flight from Manila to anywhere in Ph. In terms of girls I'm not a 9 or 10 hunter. I much prefer a 6 who gives good GFE and I like chubby girls and milfs LOL.
Any guidance greatly appreciated.
Thank you.To put it in simple words: something like that doesn't exist in the Philippines.
Sabang or Subic are the only two places that have water and mongering, but don't expect Caribbean blue, or more than a 2 stars look for the hotel.
Since you mentioned that you're staying in 5 stars accommodations usually, that means that you have extra funds available to play around a bit, make it so that your international flight lands in AC, and you have to stay there overnight as a layover, do not forget to mention to your wife how pissed off you are for this inconvenience.
Get a girl or two, test them out, Barfine them for a few days give them some money for the babysitters in case it's need, and take them to Boracay. Problem solved, Nice beach, five-star hotel, and mongering. You'll just have to move really fast because of the plane tickets for the girls, also make sure they have national IDs that are accepted for flying. Alternatively, you can do the same thing in Manila, but it's going to cost you a lot more and Manila girls are a little bit more tricky.
Alexandra2525
11-20-24, 20:00
Wow, thanks for the great responses guys, I was expecting to be told to piss of and RTFF LOL.
Lots of suggestions for me to read up about. I'll do that before I ask anymore questions.
Thanks again, really appreciate it.
Wow, thanks for the great responses guys, I was expecting to be told to piss of and RTFF LOL.
Lots of suggestions for me to read up about. I'll do that before I ask anymore questions.
Thanks again, really appreciate it.Thinking outside the box, why not combine Ugly and my suggestions and get a tour guide++. 48 hours in Manila would be plenty of time to road test a few then suggest a trip out of town to whomever you mesh the best with. You could then agree on exactly what extra services can be provided. It's best to do this after selection. Don't offer a week in Boracay upfront lest she be on her best behaviour just to win the prize.
Others may differ but I'm not a fan of travelling with hookers: don't expect conversation to be a strong suit so what are you going to do for the other 22 hours of the day and; you will be in your own as no other civilians in bars, on dive boats etc will want to talk to you with a hooker at the table.
https://www.showaround.com/locals/ann-manila-philippines-9885624
Good luck. G.
Alexandra2525
11-21-24, 08:23
If girls are the priority you have Sabang and Cebu. Both have some very nice accommodation options and girls on tap. For Cebu you want to stay in town, near Ayala, so that the girls can find you, rather than one of the remote resorts. For Sabang, _Phil has given detailed transport methods or any good hotel will provide door to door transport options. Note that the diving is great there but snorkeling is very limited and Jan has the coldest water temps.
Dumaguete is another option. It has great day and boat trips so you will get some very plausible pics and IG posts for back home. You can even stay on the water front at Dauin. Girls are available but it's more work than the other two due to the number of foreigners in town.
Sabang has a very active bar scene. Cebu is the online dating capital of the Philippines with literally '00's of girls online at any one time. Duma has WhyNot bar and a small online scene. In all cases I probably wouldn't fall in love in Manila and BYO. I'm not aware of any having outcall escort options like you were asking about Manila Courtesans.
Enjoy. G.Thank you.
Sabang looks great and excellent cover story as Palawan is the sort of place I would have headed with family as well, however having done a quick search there doesn't seem to be any major hotels there, it's all guest house type set ups and 2/3 stars. Or did you mean stay somewhere else in a nice hotel on Palawan and travel into Sabang for the girls?
Cebu seems a good one as well and I had already been looking into it.
Where to stay is the confusing part. You've mentioned Ayala and there are also good hotels in Cebu City I think but my wife knows that I would always head to beachside type hotels if I had the choice.
There's a strip of hotels (as per the pic attached) on / close to beach that are the right kind. Do you think I could stay there and still be involved in the Cebu scene? I'd like to check out the bar scene (assuming there is one) if possible.
How about somewhere like Boracay? This would be excellent cover story. I've been googling and getting the impression that there is a P4 P bar scene and FLs but would need some decent feedback before I commit.
Re; tour guide ++. This did cross my mind as well but I can't be sure that any of those girls would provide services. I'm sure they probably would if the benefits offered were good enough but I don't want to play games and have to try and seduce someone. I'll only be in Ph for max 7 days, I don't want to waste a couple of days of that trying to figure out if the girl will sleep with me.
Thanks for all your help, really appreciate it.
Alexandra2525
11-21-24, 08:37
To put it in simple words: something like that doesn't exist in the Philippines.
Sabang or Subic are the only two places that have water and mongering, but don't expect Caribbean blue, or more than a 2 stars look for the hotel.
Since you mentioned that you're staying in 5 stars accommodations usually, that means that you have extra funds available to play around a bit, make it so that your international flight lands in AC, and you have to stay there overnight as a layover, do not forget to mention to your wife how pissed off you are for this inconvenience.
Get a girl or two, test them out, Barfine them for a few days give them some money for the babysitters in case it's need, and take them to Boracay. Problem solved, Nice beach, five-star hotel, and mongering. You'll just have to move really fast because of the plane tickets for the girls, also make sure they have national IDs that are accepted for flying. Alternatively, you can do the same thing in Manila, but it's going to cost you a lot more and Manila girls are a little bit more tricky.Thank you.
Finding a hot girl that I gel with in Manila / AC and then flying her to Boracay for a week of fantastic sex, sea and sand is the dream!
However I suspect the reality will be very different. I'm there for maximum 7 days, it could be short as 5. Getting all that sorted in such a short space of time will be very difficult and probably stressful.
I once did something like that in another country and because I rushed the decision (again due to short stay) I picked the wrong girl and had an absolutely awful time. A very expensive awful time.
If I were there for a minimum of two weeks I would definitely try what you're suggesting.
If at all possible I'd like to spend 24/48 hrs in Manila mongering and then the remainder somewhere else where I can just pick up P4 P that I like. If I gel with any in the second location I can always ask them to join me in my hotel for a few days.
Thank you very much for helping.
LoveItHere69
11-21-24, 09:08
Say your company needed you to look into possibly opening an office or meet with a prospective client in Manila. Grab a random guy and tell him you need some pictures of you two together to show your wife. Most guys will happily do that for you. Say it did not work out and too expensive to get a last minute return ticket so decided to relax at a beach because you met an expat who took you to Boracay. You need some preapproval stuff to get on the island. Explain Manila is ugly and no way you were going to spend a week there when one of the top 10 beaches on the planet is right next door. Boracay has a freelancer scene. Just walk down the path after 8 pm. Should be around 9 girls available. If you are staying at 3+ star hotels and depending on how much you are paying that number of girls just doubled or tripled because they have friends. Just say sorry you are not my type. I will pay you a finders fee. I am looking for X, why, and Z. The ladyboys will approach you and the girls will be behind them. Station 2 on the walking path. Also, just ask guys working at the hotels or e-trike drivers on the main road. Girls from Manila and other areas come here to hunt. Do not be shy. Ask the girls working at the hotels and bars for their friends to play with. They always have a friendly friend to play with. But this requires you giving out your phone number or Facebook. Some have Whatsapp now. Taking a girl there I believe would be a pain in the at # Go to the discos and ask the guys working there. That is a 100% slam dunk to find pay for play girls. You do not have to take the girls they point out. Just use those girls to give your their hotter younger friends and give them a tip for their assistance.
If you go to somewhere like Subic just take some pictures outside their zoo, zipline, or the dolphin-seal enclosure in the background and leave. Many girlie bars but beaches suck. Hard sell to the wife why you went there.
Sabang has girlie bars and freelancers that come and go depending on when the police run them off. Not a damn thing to do there unless you Scuba dive. Not recommended for your situation because hard sell to your wife and even your friends at that location.
Bohol, Siquijor, Palawan, and Camiguin or good bets too. There is no freelancer scene or bar scene here. If you have money you can find. Just ask any hotel or bar employees or trike drivers to give you a contact and give them a tip.
If your wife thinks you were going to cheat on her then explain that big cities like Manila have tons of working girls while beaches do not.
Your answer is Boracay. Take a few pictures of the white sugar sand, baby blue water, and the sunset and she will understand why why why.
Thank you.
Sabang looks great and excellent cover story as Palawan is the sort of place I would have headed with family as well, however having done a quick search there doesn't seem to be any major hotels there, it's all guest house type set ups and 2/3 stars. Or did you mean stay somewhere else in a nice hotel on Palawan and travel into Sabang for the girls?
Cebu seems a good one as well and I had already been looking into it.
Where to stay is the confusing part. You've mentioned Ayala and there are also good hotels in Cebu City I think but my wife knows that I would always head to beachside type hotels if I had the choice.
There's a strip of hotels (as per the pic attached) on / close to beach that are the right kind. Do you think I could stay there and still be involved in the Cebu scene? I'd like to check out the bar scene (assuming there is one) if possible.
How about somewhere like Boracay? This would be excellent cover story. I've been googling and getting the impression that there is a P4 P bar scene and FLs but would need some decent feedback before I commit.
Re; tour guide ++. This did cross my mind as well but I can't be sure that any of those girls would provide services. I'm sure they probably would if the benefits offered were good enough but I don't want to play games and have to try and seduce someone. I'll only be in Ph for max 7 days, I don't want to waste a couple of days of that trying to figure out if the girl will sleep with me.
Thanks for all your help, really appreciate it.That's the wrong Sabang. Everyone is recommending Sabang on Mindoro not Palawan. It's about 2 hours south of Manila. There are no hotel chains but does have some nice accommodation and girls on tap. Definitely no need to BYO girl.
The Shangrila is a very nice place but it and the other Mactan Hotels are probably 2+ hours from Ayala and where most of the girls are. There are some small bars etc nearby but you will have to search for them and they aren't exactly point and shoot, newbie friendly. Much better to stay in Cebu city itself and do day tours out.
Boracay is the best cover story. You have the choice of byo if you find the right girl in Manila or try your luck with freelancers in town.
No need to play games with prospective tour guides. Just ask them. No need to be insulting but it won't be the first time that they will have been asked about hotel or sleeping arrangements. This is especially true for any that have bikini shots and tits out photo angles in their profiles. It wouldn't be too hard to organise a few test tours around Manila in your first 48 hours and then make a choice.
Good luck. G.
Alexandra2525
11-21-24, 15:56
Say your company needed you to look into possibly opening an office or meet with a prospective client in Manila. Grab a random guy and tell him you need some pictures of you two together to show your wife. Most guys will happily do that for you. Say it did not work out and too expensive to get a last minute return ticket so decided to relax at a beach because you met an expat who took you to Boracay. You need some preapproval stuff to get on the island. Explain Manila is ugly and no way you were going to spend a week there when one of the top 10 beaches on the planet is right next door. Boracay has a freelancer scene. Just walk down the path after 8 pm. Should be around 9 girls available. If you are staying at 3+ star hotels and depending on how much you are paying that number of girls just doubled or tripled because they have friends. Just say sorry you are not my type. I will pay you a finders fee. I am looking for X, why, and Z. The ladyboys will approach you and the girls will be behind them. Station 2 on the walking path. Also, just ask guys working at the hotels or e-trike drivers on the main road. Girls from Manila and other areas come here to hunt. Do not be shy. Ask the girls working at the hotels and bars for their friends to play with. They always have a friendly friend to play with. But this requires you giving out your phone number or Facebook. Some have Whatsapp now. Taking a girl there I believe would be a pain in the at # Go to the discos and ask the guys working there. That is a 100% slam dunk to find pay for play girls. You do not have to take the girls they point out. Just use those girls to give your their hotter younger friends and give them a tip for their assistance.
If you go to somewhere like Subic just take some pictures outside their zoo, zipline, or the dolphin-seal enclosure in the background and leave. Many girlie bars but beaches suck. Hard sell to the wife why you went there.
Sabang has girlie bars and freelancers that come and go depending on when the police run them off. Not a damn thing to do there unless you Scuba dive. Not recommended for your situation because hard sell to your wife and even your friends at that location..Thank you my friend!
The office thing in Manila won't work for me because of the nature of my work, but I will bank that excellent idea for another location where it would work.
But getting to Boracay shouldn't be a problem. My legitimate business in India has been engineered to conclude quickly and I will then say I fancy doing some diving somewhere nice as I'm already halfway across the world. As Boracay is a renowned dive destination and I've been a keen diver for many years its actually the perfect cover.
Once in Boracay I may not even actually dive. It's quite hard work being up half the night drinking / partying and then diving all day. At my age anyway. But I'll find an excuse for that, that's not a problem.
May I ask, in terms of Boracay are you speaking from experience? Have you mongered there yourself?
Thank you!
Alexandra2525
11-21-24, 16:00
That's the wrong Sabang. Everyone is recommending Sabang on Mindoro not Palawan. It's about 2 hours south of Manila. There are no hotel chains but does have some nice accommodation and girls on tap. Definitely no need to BYO girl.
The Shangrila is a very nice place but it and the other Mactan Hotels are probably 2+ hours from Ayala and where most of the girls are. There are some small bars etc nearby but you will have to search for them and they aren't exactly point and shoot, newbie friendly. Much better to stay in Cebu city itself and do day tours out.
Boracay is the best cover story. You have the choice of byo if you find the right girl in Manila or try your luck with freelancers in town.
No need to play games with prospective tour guides. Just ask them. No need to be insulting but it won't be the first time that they will have been asked about hotel or sleeping arrangements. This is especially true for any that have bikini shots and tits out photo angles in their profiles. It wouldn't be too hard to organise a few test tours around Manila in your first 48 hours and then make a choice.
Good luck. G.Thank you.
The Cebu thing won't work then unfortunately. Family knows that I would never spend a week in a city centre if there were beaches / sea etc a couple of hours away.
I'll look up the proper Sabang but going by what you and LoveItHere69 have said its looking like Boracay is the answer to my problem!
Thanks again for all your help.
Wow, thanks for the great responses guys, I was expecting to be told to piss of and RTFF LOL.
Lots of suggestions for me to read up about. I'll do that before I ask anymore questions.
Thanks again, really appreciate it.Hi Alex _ G and Ugly have offered some excellent suggestions.
For a really decent beachside location, Boracay can be worth it with Ugly's input at scoring freelancers. I had no trouble at all and didn't have to BYO.
Having said that, in March next year I'm taking a friend there for a week who has never travelled from Mindoro apart from a trip to Manila. She's just shit scared of flying for the first time, but we'll get over that with some Tanduay.
Sabang has worked for me. It's an easy trip from Manila and if you go around to Big Laguna beach (a quick 20 minute walk) you'll be able to get some vacation pics to send back to the Mrs. I just have quite a few contacts there now and I've never been one for the bar scene when you can meet locals and compensate them accordingly.
But that takes time to establish.
I just prefer it to Angeles and Manila as it's in a good location with water views and it's not a shit hole.
There will be no five star hotel options by a decent beach in the Phils generaly, but you'll have a good time if you're prepared to find it. And if you're on a five star budget, you'll have no trouble grabbing a hottie out of one of the girly bars in the alley.
Then there's always AI technology these days that can place you in an environment that's wife friendly for pics.
(Not that I have a wife).
Just my experience, Phil.
LoveItHere69
11-21-24, 16:35
May I ask, in terms of Boracay are you speaking from experience? Have you mongered there yourself?I went 10 years and 6 years ago. But am sure nothing has changed. At most the girls moved a 5 minute walk from their old location along the beach path. Even back then several guys said there were no girls available but there they were each time I went. I never do the online scene but I would check that out just for starters. Someone before stated this: In decreasing order of girl quality it's Instagram, Tinder, Filipino Cupid, DIA, PinaLove. Simply ask the e-trike guys and the guys working the disco and guys and gals working bars and hotels.
For a comparison earlier this month I was in the city of Bangued in the province of ABRA in the north of Luzon Island. I found a bar and some freelancers by asking the guy that owned the house I was renting a room with bathroom in. If I can find sex there you sure as hell can it in Boracay. The nicer hotel you stay at and the more money you are willing to spend the more girls you have available. I prefer this because if I like the girl I can spend every day with her and send her home for half the day when I need a break for alone time. If not keep finding another one. It will be cheaper than bringing your own and so many flake at the last minute.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Bangued
I have mongered in many cities in the past. Asking certain people (trike, hotel, disco) for sexual contacts is as common and normal as asking if they have baby formula at a drug store or eggs at a grocery store. They may offer you an ugly girl. Just say "Not what I am looking for or not my type. Do you have any friends available that look like XYZ? Once you get started it is like dominoes. You will be sad to see all the girls that come out of the woodwork once they know you. And that will be right when you have to leave. That is when the sexiest one of them all appears but you have no time left. Small warning. The girl you are with for one night will usually not give you to her friends because she will want you to take her every night and not share you.
Do not be shy!
Alexandra2525
11-21-24, 22:35
I went 10 years and 6 years ago. But am sure nothing has changed. At most the girls moved a 5 minute walk from their old location along the beach path. Even back then several guys said there were no girls available but there they were each time I went. I never do the online scene but I would check that out just for starters. Someone before stated this: In decreasing order of girl quality it's Instagram, Tinder, Filipino Cupid, DIA, PinaLove. Simply ask the e-trike guys and the guys working the disco and guys and gals working bars and hotels.
For a comparison earlier this month I was in the city of Bangued in the province of ABRA in the north of Luzon Island. I found a bar and some freelancers by asking the guy that owned the house I was renting a room with bathroom in. If I can find sex there you sure as hell can it in Boracay. The nicer hotel you stay at and the more money you are willing to spend the more girls you have available. I prefer this because if I like the girl I can spend every day with her and send her home for half the day when I need a break for alone time. If not keep finding another one. It will be cheaper than bringing your own and so many flake at the last minute.Thank you.
I really don't want to be flying some bird out there, it's too much headache when the trip is as short as mine.
I've never done online either but will give it a go this time just to see what happens.
I have a decent budget and so can grease some palms and I'll be staying at one of the better hotels. This is a once in a lifetime trip for me, I may not get the opportunity again, so I'm happy to spend. I've been to parts of SEA many times with family and just gawped at the beautiful women but never been able to partake.
This time I want to taste them. And I won't let money stand in the way LOL.
Really appreciate all the advice given by you kind gents on this forum.
Old And Ugly
11-22-24, 23:46
I just remembered something weird (in a good way) :
About 2 years ago I was thinking to stay in El Nido for few months, and I was looking for a decent place to rent in Corong. I came across this lady that was working in a restaurant there, and she offered a bungalow in her backyard, that came with a built in 19 year old, all you can fuck, bed companion. Later upon further inquiries I figured out that the girl was her live in baby sitter, and she was living in the bungalow, later she send me pics with her, nice body but ugly face. Anyway I didn't take the offer because I decided to move further north to Busuanga, where I ended up with a photomodel all fucked up in the head, with drinking problems, and I forgot all about the babysitter.
... I decided to move further north to Busuanga, where I ended up with a photomodel all fucked up in the head, with drinking problems, and I forgot all about the babysitter.What is it with addicted, whacked in the head stunners that makes them such good fucks?? I can tell the same story about a Sabang pole dancer from years ago: absolutely gorgeous, super toned and came complete with slashed up forearms from low grade shabu use. But man could she fuck. I lost track of her when she was run out of town for causing too much shit. How I didn't end up with a slashed throat or major disease, I'll never know.
The things we do when we are young and stoppid.
G.
Alexandra2525
11-23-24, 12:47
Hi Alex _ G and Ugly have offered some excellent suggestions.
For a really decent beachside location, Boracay can be worth it with Ugly's input at scoring freelancers. I had no trouble at all and didn't have to BYO.
Having said that, in March next year I'm taking a friend there for a week who has never travelled from Mindoro apart from a trip to Manila. She's just shit scared of flying for the first time, but we'll get over that with some Tanduay.
Sabang has worked for me. It's an easy trip from Manila and if you go around to Big Laguna beach (a quick 20 minute walk) you'll be able to get some vacation pics to send back to the Mrs. I just have quite a few contacts there now and I've never been one for the bar scene when you can meet locals and compensate them accordingly.
But that takes time to establish..Sorry Phil, somehow I missed your post the first time around.
Thank you for great advice, much appreciated.
Alexandra2525
11-23-24, 13:07
Guys, I know this isn't the correct forum but it seems to have well seasoned and helpful adventurers here and I've already explained my situation so I will ask.
Thailand would actually be a much easier destination for me as there are direct flights from India (where I will be on business for a few days).
I have been with family to Thailand many times, including many of the Islands.
More than 24 hours in BKK and any trip at all to Pattaya would be a complete no no.
Any thoughts about potential destinations in Thailand (preferably mainland) that fulfill the same kind of criteria that I mentioned for the Philippines? Ie somewhere that has touristy stuff to use as cover, has 5 star hotels and a decent mongering scene?
Somewhere like Chang Mai, Chang Rai would have been perfect; I could have just said I want to get away and unwind amongst the beautiful landscapes and also could have perhaps taken a quick trip into Laos.
However having done some research it seems those areas are fairly dead for mongering with the exception of massage parlours (which I'm not really into).
Thanks in advance and have a great weekend.
Any thoughts about potential destinations in Thailand (preferably mainland) that fulfill the same kind of criteria that I mentioned for the Philippines? Ie somewhere that has touristy stuff to use as cover, has 5 star hotels and a decent mongering scene?
Somewhere like Chang Mai, Chang Rai would have been perfect; I could have just said I want to get away and unwind amongst the beautiful landscapes and also could have perhaps taken a quick trip into Laos.
However having done some research it seems those areas are fairly dead for mongering with the exception of massage parlours (which I'm not really into).
Thanks in advance and have a great weekend.Phuket would have to be top of the list. Sounds like you're happy to spend up so the high prices won't bother you, the high prices and gullible tourists draw the hottest girls and there are resorts / attractions / photo ops right there to keep mom happy
I'd have to check but you might even get direct flights from India. TH is extremely popular with Indian tourists and mongers now.
G.
Alexandra2525
11-23-24, 18:49
Phuket would have to be top of the list. Sounds like you're happy to spend up so the high prices won't bother you, the high prices and gullible tourists draw the hottest girls and there are resorts / attractions / photo ops right there to keep mom happy
I'd have to check but you might even get direct flights from India. TH is extremely popular with Indian tourists and mongers now..Hi mate.
I did take a look into Phuket and if what I've read is true then the prices being asked are crazy. I have a healthy budget for the trip but I still value my hard earned money and there is the principle that I refuse to be ripped off.
Perhaps prices are more reasonable away from the main strips and via online mechanisms like Thai Friendly, I shall do some more digging.
There is an area called Khao Lak about 1. 5 hours from Phuket and it has nice hotels and beaches. I'm wondering if mongering might be a bit more reasonable there. The hottest girls will probably be working in Phuket but I'm not chasing 9's and 10's, I actually prefer the pretty / well kept next door type as opposed to surgically enhanced model types.
Thanks for your input, I will continue to research. Mongering research can take up so much time LOL.
Thanks for your input, I will continue to research. Mongering research can take up so much time LOL.No problems. Happy to help. With respect, you seem to be suffering from analysis paralysis and finding reasons why every location won't work. Remember that there is pussy everywhere in SEAsia. Especially so if you're not insisting on the hottest 10's. The best times that I have had have all been surprises while trips planned to the nth degree have never gone as expected.
I'd suggest you settle on the location with the best fit, rather than seek the perfect solution, then turn up with a full wallet and stiff dick. Ask around and the rest will take care of it's self.
Enjoy. G.
Old And Ugly
11-23-24, 22:57
What is it with addicted, whacked in the head stunners that makes them such good fucks?? I can tell the same story about a Sabang pole dancer from years ago: absolutely gorgeous, super toned and came complete with slashed up forearms from low grade shabu use. But man could she fuck. I lost track of her when she was run out of town for causing too much shit. How I didn't end up with a slashed throat or major disease, I'll never know.
The things we do when we are young and stoppid.
G.I was going to stay with her for few months, maybe more, but it lasted about 2 weeks. She was a heavy drinker, and she was only drinking white wine, weird choice for a filipina, but since I was paying for it when going out, and there are no grapes growing in the PH, it started to become kind of expensive at 25 $/ bottle, mostly being imported from California.
She drank a whole bottle with every meal, and if not stopped, would drink more.
Because we were staying at her villa, and going out with her car, she was driving back intoxicated, recklessly thru the small coast villages, full of people, kids, and dogs, miraculously not hitting anyone.
It all ended one day after she came back from a photoshoot, and acted very very weird, not as her usual drunkennes, I asked and she told me at the afterparty there was cocaine, that night she was all paranoid, wanting more, and trying to get more, making phone calls, etc. I ended up locking her out of her own house, screams, and bangs, luckily no close up neighbors to call the police, she made her way in thru an upstairs balcony, I have no idea how she claimed up there, and there was a lot of yelling then crying once she was in, of course I didn't close one eye all night long, I booked a flight, and in the morning before she wake up I was gone, couldn't do it earlier, because in that remote corner of the island close to Turda city there are no trikes or motorbikes roaming around at night. That was the final drop that made me leave, beside the 50 $/ day for her wine, I didn't mind the food and occasional expenses.
I was going to stay with her for few months, maybe more, but it lasted about 2 weeks. She was a heavy drinker, and she was only drinking white wine, weird choice for a filipina, but since I was paying for it when going out, and there are no grapes growing in the PH, it started to become kind of expensive at 25 $/ bottle, mostly being imported from California.
She drank a whole bottle with every meal, and if not stopped, would drink more.
Because we were staying at her villa, and going out with her car, she was driving back intoxicated, recklessly thru the small coast villages, full of people, kids, and dogs, miraculously not hitting anyone.
It all ended one day after she came back from a photoshoot, and acted very very weird, not as her usual drunkennes, I asked and she told me at the afterparty there was cocaine, that night she was all paranoid, wanting more, and trying to get more, making phone calls, etc. I ended up locking her out of her own house, screams, and bangs, luckily no close up neighbors to call the police, she made her way in thru an upstairs balcony, I have no idea how she claimed up there, and there was a lot of yelling then crying once she was in, of course I didn't close one eye all night long, I booked a flight, and in the morning before she wake up I was gone, couldn't do it earlier, because in that remote corner of the island close to Turda city there are no trikes or motorbikes roaming around at night. That was the final drop that made me leave, beside the 50 $/ day for her wine, I didn't mind the food and occasional expenses.Unfortunately this is a common story. I've lost count of the times I've seen a strung out street junkie and local girls have told me that she was once the prettiest and busiest girl in town.
Similar stories:
A long term BF / GF enjoyed the party circuit and go out clubbing for the night. Back at home, she pops some pixy dust while he's in the CR and decides that she can fly off the 17th storey balcony. She flew ok but the landing wasn't pretty. Idiot even complained that it cost him $7 k to make the problem go away.
I took a girl home who was known to be a wild child. She goes into the bathroom and pops some helpers. Next thing she is literally running laps around the room on top of the furniture. I had to crash tackle her before she destroyed the place. The fuck was so bad that it was comical.
Remember kiddies, Just Say No.
G.
Alexandra2525
11-24-24, 07:49
No problems. Happy to help. With respect, you seem to be suffering from analysis paralysis and finding reasons why every location won't work. Remember that there is pussy everywhere in SEAsia. Especially so if you're not insisting on the hottest 10's. The best times that I have had have all been surprises while trips planned to the nth degree have never gone as expected.
I'd suggest you settle on the location with the best fit, rather than seek the perfect solution, then turn up with a full wallet and stiff dick. Ask around and the rest will take care of it's self.
Enjoy. G.Analysis Paralysis! You've hit the nail on the head.
I'm over planning and it's something I have a habit of doing.
Usually at some point (hopefully quite soon) I get exhausted by the whole thing and then just take a punt on one of the options.
You're a good judge of character LOL.
Old And Ugly
11-24-24, 09:03
The Davao forum is dead, I need intel, not the mongering kind.
Last Night I took the decision, that I stayed for too long in one place, and it's time to explore new places, I ditched my 1 peso airplane tickets for BKK, (the flight is today), canceled the hotel in the last moment, and started looking on the map.
I've been to Mindanao but only in the norther part to Siargao, Surigao, and Butuan, this time I want to fly into Davao, stay there for a month if is nice, then crawl slowly north for a few months. I will do this with my GF, and she will hunt for us, bringing in fresh meat if available and good looking.
What's the good, the bad, and the ugly about Davao? In what area should I look for a rental? What places to avoid? And what is there to do from a non mongering perspective?
I know that because being a mongering addict, probably I will visit the Rizzal st area at some point, but that's not the main objective for this trip.
I've been to Mindanao but only in the norther part to Siargao, Surigao, and Butuan, this time I want to fly into Davao, stay there for a month if is nice, then crawl slowly north for a few months. I will do this with my GF, and she will hunt for us, bringing in fresh meat if available and good looking.
What's the good, the bad, and the ugly about Davao? In what area should I look for a rental? What places to avoid? And what is there to do from a non mongering perspective?
I know that because being a mongering addict, probably I will visit the Rizzal st area at some point, but that's not the main objective for this trip.I just did this exact trip and posted near daily reports. Just search my username. I didn't post on civilian things to do but I did include convenient places to stay, a few accommodation disasters and of course girl reports.
I didn't do Hotlegs and the bars because I couldn't keep up with the online options. To be honest I haven't heard a single good report about the DVO Gogos but YMMV.
My only regrets from the trip was that I didn't go to Gensan and surprise surprise the stay was too short.
Enjoy. G.
Old And Ugly
11-24-24, 13:18
I just did this exact trip and posted near daily reports. Just search my username. I didn't post on civilian things to do but I did include convenient places to stay, a few accommodation disasters and of course girl reports.
I didn't do Hotlegs and the bars because I couldn't keep up with the online options. To be honest I haven't heard a single good report about the DVO Gogos but YMMV.
My only regrets from the trip was that I didn't go to Gensan and surprise surprise the stay was too short.
Enjoy. G.I remember reading it, but didn't remember much from it, now when I need it, I can't really find it, I just browsed thru 12 pages of posts. Please post a link to it.
Old And Ugly
11-24-24, 15:17
I rented an apt in matina aplaya, I hope the area is ok.
WestCoast1
11-24-24, 16:56
I remember reading it, but didn't remember much from it, now when I need it, I can't really find it, I just browsed thru 12 pages of posts. Please post a link to it.You can see his entire multiple reports summary (page 4), and click on any one city that you like, here:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1012-Other-Areas&p=2957790&viewfull=1#post2957790
Old And Ugly
11-24-24, 17:59
You can see his entire multiple reports summary (page 4), and click on any one city that you like, here:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1012-Other-Areas&p=2957790&viewfull=1#post2957790Thanks. This makes it a lot easier.
Old And Ugly
11-24-24, 19:14
You can see his entire multiple reports summary (page 4), and click on any one city that you like, here:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1012-Other-Areas&p=2957790&viewfull=1#post2957790I read all of them again, and I enjoyed, just like the first time I read it, great reports, but that's not the info I was looking for. Just need basic info on touristy stuff, transportation, things to do (I'll be staying there for a month), and what to avoid.
The occasional mongering will be arranged by my GF, when she finds someone suitable for her taste.
WestCoast1
11-25-24, 06:17
The occasional mongering will be arranged by my GF, when she finds someone suitable for her taste.Pretty sure your girl will be able to find you a provincial goodie (or several). Thin, long-wasted, flat-tummied things with cute faces and big eyes. Well, that's what I heard.
Looking forward to the report.
Thin, long-wasted, flat-tummied things with cute faces and big eyes. Well, that's what I heard.I found that not everything in Mindanao is flat.
Hi Guys,
Just a report on the ground from Sabang.
We'll I got here without trouble yesterday (see my previous report on how get to Sabang and back from Manila). I think the only thing that has changed is it seems to be cheaper. Jam Liner bus from Buendia MNL to Batangas 260 p, Fastcat from Batangas to Puerto Galera 650 p and a tuk tuk from the port to Sabang only 250 p!
It wasn't long before I checked into my usual waterfront hotel (with an upgrade to a brand new room as a return customer). Many would note I prefer Sabang as a mongering destination as it's actually has a nice water view and isn't a shithole like some other options. Many would also note I don't do the typical gogo scene, preferring to filter the money saved on LD's and Barfines in other directions.
It wasn't long before I had my Sabang GF in the room. Early forties, the slim brown body of a twenty year old (pre the Jollibee fat), petite small boobs with massive brown nipples and the smoothest skin. Adding to this, the tidiest little pussy I've seen in all my 50 odd years and the fact that she fucks like a little gymnast, is amazing. Yes it was a damn fine welcome back. See, it helps to keep in touch with the contacts you make along the way. I'll disclose I gift her 2000 p a day plus some food and drinks.
I've spoken of her in the past, as we met on my first visit here over two years ago (if my memory serves me correct). She works in a regular bar. They get paid 395 p for an eight hour shift plus 100 p for each LD they manage to soak out of a customer, who are not allowed to touch the waitresses and are basically only paying extra for a chat. Well kind of.
There are a few girls there who will go with a customer after work. It seems to depend on how cash needy they are at the time and their personal situation. And it's quite hush-hush. One girl will fuck anyone and another has broken a few times for the cash, but being a single mum / mom doesn't want to run the risk of bringing up a foreigner's kid after a one-night payout.
Anyway, girlfriend "F" has been a Mama in one of the bars in the past but got tired of all the hassles. She now works freelance as a Mama lining up girls only for people she knows and definitely not wasted strangers. She has given me a great update on the sex scene in Sabang that I thought I'd share.
Okay, Sabang is nearly predominately, if not completely run by Koreans. Don't see it as a big issue and your chances dashed. There are basically no Westerner's here. I've only seen a few Americans and the odd German since I've arrived. She informed me that not all girls are after the Korean cock and cash. Having said that, she advised that Westerners have a particular reputation of being wasted all the time, however a lot more friendly, so behave yourself and you might be rewarded.
One of the main reasons she gave up being a Mama in the bars was because of the workload dealing with the girls when things turned to shit. In Sabang the general barfine is 5000 p, but half is given to the bar and the customer is expected to reward the balance to the girl personally. So many guys have been paying the bar and then ripping off the girls. This is one reason she cites rising barfines.
Club Exoticta is full of Bakla (Ladyboys). If that's your thing, then good on you. But beware, their plan is to get you as wasted as possible and then rob the shit out you when you pass out in your room. In Exotica, there are not barefines so to speak for Bakla, and it's totally freelance if you're into that sort of thing.
She's had problems with her girls sleeping with Korean guys. Okay, so they have a reputation for having smallish cocks. Not a problem, I wasn't born like a donkey, but I've never had an issue. However, the Koreans have a liking for wearing cock rings to compensate and they're causing a lot of issues when it comes to vaginal bleeding. She had one guy reported to the barangay / police because he was so sexually aggressive with his girl. All of a sudden it wasn't consent. When the cops asked him to see his cock for damage he refused. It took a lot of money / compensation to get him out of that situation. So avoid cock rings and stick to the trusty vitamin V.
Over the next week I'll try and post some more info and the GF said we'd try and visit a few of her old bars so I can share some info. Just depends on if she can get out of work.
In wrapping up for now, I still highly rate Sabang. Really nice location for mongering compared to the alternatives in The Phils and you'll get what you want if you know how to go about it. And don't tell too many Westerners, as there'll be too much competition for the girls who are sick of being dictated to by the Koreans.
Just my observations _ Phil.
Hi Guys,
Just a report on the ground from Sabang..I like these anthropological reports much better than ones on some anonymous hooker or other.
1. Why are the Koreans concerned about the size of their cocks? It is not like they get into measuring contests.
2. Good observation on wasted Westerners. I will be back in a few days time and I am dreading that type staying in the same hotel as me.
3. Why are there so many ladyboys? Surely they would be spread out to where the pickings are best. It also seems odd they hang around waiting for westeners to get wasted. I bet plenty of the Korean cock ring wearers like it up the Khyber Pass as well.
Anyway, a very good report, as was GoFerrings about minimum wage and minimum education I reckon the rich have the Philippines rightly by the balls and they have no intention of stopping squeezing. I see the VP has taken a contract out on the President. Real fkked up shit that.
I suppose one other tihng: last time, I hung out with ordinary women ando ne or two hookers as they had lunch. The ordianry women thought I ws a good guy andaksed me to get them overseas boyfriends, They tell me they get saturated with morons sending them dick pics. Lots of males are really screwed up, but so too is the Philippines.
Old And Ugly
11-25-24, 16:09
Pretty sure your girl will be able to find you a provincial goodie (or several). Thin, long-wasted, flat-tummied things with cute faces and big eyes. Well, that's what I heard.
Looking forward to the report.Is not going to happen every day, but she does it once or sometimes twice a week. First we'll stop in Cebu at one of her best GF from college for 3 days, she made the arrangements in advance already, and the other girl is very shy, but eager to try it.
LoveItHere69
11-25-24, 16:28
I found that not everything in Mindanao is flat.Why are you posting a picture of Christina Lucci who is from New Jersey and not Mindanao? She is not even a Filipina.
Old And Ugly
11-25-24, 16:31
Hi Guys,
Just a report on the ground from Sabang.
............... I'll disclose I gift her 2000 p a day plus some food and drinks.
..................That's exactly what I used to do long time ago when I was still married, and could not get a GF for obvious reasons: paid 2 k / day for a few days, or if was a keeper for longer term 20 K / month, even if I wasn't staying for a month. Always got them lined up in advance on Pinalove as paid guides with benefits, and discussed everything in advance, it took some work, and filtering. Better than BF and a lot cheaper, also you can have a conversation, because usually the ones advertising as guides, are educated, teachers or travel industry related degrees, but unemployed.
I don't have nothing against BFs, and I still do it sometimes while in AC, because I feel like a kid in a candy store while shopping for pussy in bars.
LoveItHere69
11-25-24, 16:37
So many guys have been paying the bar and then ripping off the girls.
She's had problems with her girls sleeping with Korean guys. Okay, so they have a reputation for having smallish cocks. Not a problem, I wasn't born like a donkey, but I've never had an issue. However, the Koreans have a liking for wearing cock rings to compensate and they're causing a lot of issues when it comes to vaginal bleeding. She had one guy reported to the barangay / police because he was so sexually aggressive with his girl. All of a sudden it wasn't consent. When the cops asked him to see his cock for damage he refused. It took a lot of money / compensation to get him out of that situation.Curious about the percentage of westerners versus Koreans doing the not paying the girls. Of course the numbers will be higher for the Koreans because they are a much larger group there. So the percentage would be more helpful.
I had a Korean buddy I hung out with in the past. They are bossy to the girls and all the hotel and restaurant staff. Basically a-holes complaining about anything and everything.
Cock ring story was interesting. Even a little aggressive wearing that could easily be considered rape since it can quickly and easily hurt the girls.
LoveItHere69
11-25-24, 17:15
3. Why are there so many ladyboys? Surely they would be spread out to where the pickings are best. It also seems odd they hang around waiting for westeners to get wasted. I bet plenty of the Korean cock ring wearers like it up the Khyber Pass as well.In the past it was to get drunk foreigners and still is a little bit. Obviously things have changed or they would not be out in force by 7 pm. It is because older guys 'line in the sand' keeps moving. More precisely keeps dropping. Service starts to trump looks. This is slowly happening to me. I will take less looks and a little older but rarely ever go above age 27. PhilJoy below is already lowered himself into the low 40's. Also, guys start running out of money. So guys start dating older and older women who are cheaper and more into sex because they are not getting it like the younger girls. Not even close. The older ladies are married so they are the ones that hit it and quit it making it easy for the foreigner. So the foreigner keeps taking older and older ladies with not as much hugging, kissing, licking, sucking, etc. Basically just insert the rod until the shot is fired. In time her mouth or pussy just becomes a hole to insert and cum like a glory hole. Now the foreigner gets to the point where he can get his dick sucked by an old ugly woman or someone younger and prettier to get sucked off by not caring as much as to who is doing the job, even if it is a guy. Kinda like sticking your dick in a glory hole and not caring who sucks it as long as he can get a load off. Once the foreigner gets used to that, the Ladyboy bends over and the foreigner says to himself a hole is a hole and this one's tighter.
You can say "No! No! No!" to a ladyboy and they will still follow you for a good distance. The fastest way I get them to stop on a dime and go away is to tell them "You are ugly!" or "You look like a guy! Your preference.
Standards keep dropping for so many people. Look at the picture posted of a non-Filipina that was supposedly found in Mindanao. Sad really.
In wrapping up for now, I still highly rate Sabang. Really nice location for mongering compared to the alternatives in The Phils and you'll get what you want if you know how to go about it. And don't tell too many Westerners, as there'll be too much competition for the girls who are sick of being dictated to by the Koreans.
Just my observations _ Phil.An interesting thought. I was blasted as a BS'er previously for suggesting that resident divemasters were getting stunning K girls for pennies on the dollar. Some were whenever the girls had an itch to scratch and others were when unexpected bills rolled in.
Perhaps your thesis explains why the girls were happy with 1000 from Dave the dive master. The guys involved were always nice, happy go lucky and popular whenever they walked in the bars for beer o'clock.
Old And Ugly
11-26-24, 07:48
An interesting thought. I was blasted as a BS'er previously for suggesting that resident divemasters were getting stunning K girls for pennies on the dollar. Some were whenever the girls had an itch to scratch and others were when unexpected bills rolled in.
Perhaps your thesis explains why the girls were happy with 1000 from Dave the dive master. The guys involved were always nice, happy go lucky and popular whenever they walked in the bars for beer o'clock.I wander if they get girls from K also, or who does the unaccompanied ones vacationing in the PH alone? I'm too old to try to get them, but I'm sure they are curious about testing some foreign dick.
I wander if they get girls from K also, or who does the unaccompanied ones vacationing in the PH alone?.I'm not sure who the "they" are that you are referring to. For clarity the DMs were scoring the stunning bargirls who would typically only be barfined by Koreans. At the time, barfines were 4 k and my friends were paying 1 k for an afternoon.
I've never met unaccompanied Korean girl groups so I can't comment. I do know that male Korean instructors etc working in town are massive cock blockers should anyone try their luck with the Korean female employees. The Korean girls were very cute but I and my friends never got anywhere with them.
There was talk of some "Russian" guys opening a bar with *stan girls but I don't think that ever eventuated. I've never seen anything but Philippina girls working in Sabang bars. Certainly no Koreans. This may have changed. Phil would be the best for recent intel.
Hope this answers your questions.
G.
Old And Ugly
11-26-24, 10:53
I'm not sure who the "they" are that you are referring to. For clarity the DMs were scoring the stunning bargirls who would typically only be barfined by Koreans. At the time, barfines were 4 k and my friends were paying 1 k for an afternoon.
I've never met unaccompanied Korean girl groups so I can't comment. I do know that male Korean instructors etc working in town are massive cock blockers should anyone try their luck with the Korean female employees. The Korean girls were very cute but I and my friends never got anywhere with them.
There was talk of some "Russian" guys opening a bar with *stan girls but I don't think that ever eventuated. I've never seen anything but Philippina girls working in Sabang bars. Certainly no Koreans. This may have changed. Phil would be the best for recent intel.
Hope this answers your questions.
G."They" was in the context of the filipino DM.
"They" was in the context of the filipino DM.Aaah. I think it's fair to say that 99.99% of the bargirls have a pinoy boyfriend or hubby stashed away somewhere. They tend to receive money from the girls, not pay them for pussy regardless of how good they look.
The friends that I was talking about were / are all foreign.
Cheers. G.
LoveItHere69
11-26-24, 18:35
I found that not everything in Mindanao is flat.So how exactly did you meet Christina Lucci, a non-Filipina, from New Jersey worth an estimated $2 million USD?
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=christina+lucci+flat+Florida+shirt&ID=6 E4 BE7 FF047 C1606 C1 E1 B7 EA91131 F8 C0045 DC7 E&form=IQFRBA&first=1&disoverlay=1.
Aaah. I think it's fair to say that 99.99% of the bargirls have a pinoy boyfriend or hubby stashed away somewhere. Cheers. G.They still need "love" and the guys need their Red Horse money. Plus, with the 5/6 system so many are spongers. Woman / man goes to the Gulf, works hard, useless relatives squander it all.
I found that not everything in Mindanao is flat.She doesn't look like she's from mindanao! Hahaha. I remember her. Brings back a lot of memories from my younger days.
She doesn't look like she's from mindanao! Hahaha. I remember her. Brings back a lot of memories from my younger days.I'll be honest, I have no idea who she is. I was more making the point that many Mindanao girls also have big cans.
Lots of guys seem to know her and even a few were hugely offended. Was she famous? From a specific area??
My apologies if I've insulted someone's teenage masterbatory fantasy. 😁.
Cheers. G.
LoveItHere69
11-27-24, 03:38
I'll be honest, I have no idea who she is. I was more making the point that many Mindanao girls also have big cans.
.Really? Why could you not post a real picture of a Filipina of your own even if it was from another island or from the past years ago? Your post was bragging as if you had met her. But you got caught.
WestCoast1
11-27-24, 06:45
So how exactly did you meet Christina Lucci, a non-Filipina, from New Jersey worth an estimated $2 million USD?
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=christina+lucci+flat+Florida+shirt&ID=6 E4 BE7 FF047 C1606 C1 E1 B7 EA91131 F8 C0045 DC7 E&form=IQFRBA&first=1&disoverlay=1.
Really? Why could you not post a real picture of a Filipina of your own even if it was from another island or from the past years ago? Your post was bragging as if you had met her. But you got caught.Not sure he 'got caught'. Nor was he trying to pass off miss Lucci as Filipina. Her shirt clearly says Florida on it. He was simply using it as an example of boobage. Most of us understood that it was analogous, not literal.
In addition, he did post such a real picture of a Filipina of similar proportions during his recent Mindanao travels:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1012-Other-Areas&p=2953019&viewfull=1#post2953019
Instead of praising pic posters, haters gonna hate.
Old And Ugly
11-27-24, 08:34
Not sure he 'got caught'. Nor was he trying to pass off miss Lucci as Filipina. Her shirt clearly says Florida on it. He was simply using it as an example of boobage. Most of us understood that it was analogous, not literal.
In addition, he did post such a real picture of a Filipina of similar proportions during his recent Mindanao travels:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1012-Other-Areas&p=2953019&viewfull=1#post2953019
Instead of praising pic posters, haters gonna hate.Here are not one, but 2 sets of mindanao boobs.
Really? Why could you not post a real picture of a Filipina of your own even if it was from another island or from the past years ago?
Your post was bragging as if you had met her. But you got caught.I won't repost Westies link so here's your requested one from from years ago. This time Davao. Open the link for photos. As I said large tits are pretty generic across Mindanao.
I came across this flat chested lass in Davao.
Swore that she was the smallest of her sisters.I'm not sure what part of me saying I didn't even know who she is / was she a bragging but if you say so, then fine, you caught me. I've been busted. The same as when you busted me for not including step by step instructions on how to catch a bus. Luckily you did follow up with a very incitful post on how to do the same.
Ill go back to reporting on broader issues in the Philippines. You know, things like finding, meeting and fucking girls. Feel free to continue to police others' reports of doing said activities. We wait with bated breath.
Cheers. G.
PhilJoy below is already lowered himself into the low 40's. Also, guys start running out of money. So guys start dating older and older women who are cheaper and more into sex because they are not getting it like the younger girls. Not even close. The older ladies are married so they are the ones that hit it and quit it making it easy for the foreigner. So the foreigner keeps taking older and older ladies with not as much hugging, kissing, licking, sucking, etc. Basically just insert the rod until the shot is fired.Mate, nothing could be further from the truth if you've just had the last four days I've encountered, and there's a few more to come too!
I'll admit, there's some really hot young things about Sabang, but to tell the truth, they all look terribly unhappy getting dragged along by their Korean clients.
I haven't exactly "Lowered myself into the 40's".
I just prefer to spend my time here with a friend I've known for some years now, who always 'performs' every day like a champion between the sheets, has the body of a girl in her twenties and will come and spend two to three hours every afternoon on the balcony chatting with me about all sorts of shit, most often un-sex related. It's a friendship with amazing sex included.
I suppose when it comes to generalizing situations, we may have all been guilty of it at one point.
Sure I'm avoiding expensive barfines and LD's, but I have a girl 'on-tap' and I know that the 2000 p I gift her every day is going straight to her and her family. And she's extremely appreciative of that.
_ Phil.
Transporter
11-27-24, 11:56
I just prefer to spend my time here with a friend I've known for some years now, who always 'performs' every day like a champion between the sheets, has the body of a girl in her twenties and will come and spend two to three hours every afternoon on the balcony chatting with me about all sorts of shit, most often un-sex related. It's a friendship with amazing sex included.
l.P.
I'm with ya there. I do when the opportunity presents itself choose to spend time with some ladies in their 30's and 1 in her 40's. They are spectacular women and I enjoy them very much. They are super awesome in bed, and a pleasure to spend time with everywhere else. Granted I met and enjoyed them when they were teenagers and in their twenties also. If I had to rate them now on pure enjoyment scale, handsdown the older self is much more skilled and enjoyable.
I'll admit, there's some really hot young things about Sabang, but to tell the truth, they all look terribly unhappy getting dragged along by their Korean clients.
_ Phil.We all enjoy having a hottie on our arm but I'm yet to see a direct correlation between the the hottest girls giving the best performance. If anything it's the reverse because they know they have a million suitors and do not have to impress anyone to seal a deal.
Next we will be arguing that guys are lowering themselves by not paying the most or going to the most popular bars. It's ridiculous.
Enjoy. G.
LoveItHere69
11-27-24, 20:20
I have lowered my standards. Little bit older and older as time goes by and not staying up all night to find the hottest one. Just one hot enough to get me to blow my load. Also, fewer girls per week. Mentally harder to get turned on. Some days my one a day seems to much. But also the choices available are also getting older and older. The bar girls and street girl ages keep rising.
I have lowered my standards. Little bit older and older as time goes by and not staying up all night to find the hottest one. Just one hot enough to get me to blow my load. Also, fewer girls per week. Mentally harder to get turned on. Some days my one a day seems to much. But also the choices available are also getting older and older. The bar girls and street girl ages keep rising.Pretty soon it will get to the point where you will be like those guys you described where a hole is a hole LOL.
I have lowered my standards. Little bit older and older as time goes by and not staying up all night to find the hottest one. Just one hot enough to get me to blow my load. Also, fewer girls per week. Mentally harder to get turned on. Some days my one a day seems to much. But also the choices available are also getting older and older. The bar girls and street girl ages keep rising.I'm in two minds here. No disrespect to Phil, he's welcome to prefer, pay for and fuck whomever he wants. However, I'm not flying half way around the world to fuck 40 year olds (again, famous last words 😜 ). As a boss said to me once, hot 20 yos can type too.
At the same time, I've seen many 40+ yo Pinas who hold their age very well. Sure their not tight 19 yos but they certainly have retained their looks and they definitely know how to please a guy in and out of the bedroom, no training required. All would be fought over back home.
I'll split the difference and continue to tap out with early 30 yos and call on air head 19yos to spice things up.
Enjoy. G.
I'm looking for somewhere new.
Anyone have experience with Gensan to Cotabato, Iligan and CDO? I'm thinking a few days at each hitting the internet. Not stopping at Marawi seems wise but the others appear ok.
Thoughts and experiences?
G.
LoveItHere69
11-29-24, 06:34
I'm looking for somewhere new.
Anyone have experience with Gensan to Cotabato, Iligan and CDO? I'm thinking a few days at each hitting the internet. Not stopping at Marawi seems wise but the others appear ok.
Thoughts and experiences?This was 15 years ago but I doubt much has changed and mostly based off street girls. No online.
Did not like Davao. Most guys find it to be like Cebu. They have a nice beach on the big island next door but never went. 4 days and I left. Little street scene. I would check it out again and spend a few days on the big island.
Did not like GenSan. Little street scene and not a pretty city so stayed 5 days.
Cotobato. Muslim town. Got off the bus and nobody was there. Nobody selling stuff and nobody waiting for a bus and took the last trike out of there who wanted to take the faster scenic route and I said no. Very few steet girls like 5. Did one that was so-so and wanted another because I did not want to stay in that city. That 2nd girl was aggressive, grabbed my junk quickly forcing me to bend over pushing my ass back while at the same time she pickpocketed me and got 200 p and I kicked her out. Hotels shut their doors at 8 pm but the security guard will let yo in at any time. You are not expected to go out at night. Spider senses kicked in all over that town. Arrived 1 pm and was gone 9 am the next morning.
Iligan was not a pretty town and boring because so small but had so many street girls at the time that I stayed 13 days and wanted to stay 3 more but had to leave. Iligan City Public Plaza (Park) has bands on the weekends and free if not in the sit down / chair area. You can meet all kinds of people there if you are just a little bit social and want to talk to a girl and hand her your number for later. Fun relaxing open vibe with food stalls all around.
Cagayan de Oro I liked. They had 9 days worth of street girls for me. Vincente de Lara Park (McArthur Park when I was there) actually has lots of trees and has lights up in the trees so is relaxing to visit at night. Plaza Divisoria is one long park broken up by streets into several smaller parks. Weekends they always have something going on. I think they also have a band of sorts every Fri / Sat night.
If you want to pickup everyday girls doing everday stuff who are working, walking past, shopping at the mall I would rate them like this. Friendly and open: Iligan, CDO, Davao, GenSan, Cotabato (avoid like the plague).
Go now with all the Christmas decorations up and girls needing spending money. Many things are happening at those parks during the Christmas season so many girls that normally do not go out are now out.
This was 15 years ago but I doubt much has changed and mostly based off street girls. No online.Thanks. I'm pretty familiar with Davao. Being like cebu is a good analogy. It's definitely the online capital of Mindanao and takes a lot of effort not to get laid while in town.
I'm not finding a lot online in Iligan or Catabato but there are a few leads. There are numerous FB groups that I'll investigate later.
It's still seems like the area is worth a visit if I keep bookings flexible so that I can stay or live in depending what I find. Last time I made the mistake of leaving CDO too early.
Thanks. G.
Old And Ugly
11-30-24, 11:16
This was 15 years ago but I doubt much has changed and mostly based off street girls. No online.
Did not like Davao. Most guys find it to be like Cebu. They have a nice beach on the big island next door but never went. 4 days and I left. Little street scene. I would check it out again and spend a few days on the big island.
Did not like GenSan. Little street scene and not a pretty city so stayed 5 days.
Cotobato. Muslim town. Got off the bus and nobody was there. Nobody selling stuff and nobody waiting for a bus and took the last trike out of there who wanted to take the faster scenic route and I said no. Very few steet girls like 5. Did one that was so-so and wanted another because I did not want to stay in that city. That 2nd girl was aggressive, grabbed my junk quickly forcing me to bend over pushing my ass back while at the same time she pickpocketed me and got 200 p and I kicked her out. Hotels shut their doors at 8 pm but the security guard will let yo in at any time. You are not expected to go out at night. Spider senses kicked in all over that town. Arrived 1 pm and was gone 9 am the next morning.
Iligan was not a pretty town and boring because so small but had so many street girls at the time that I stayed 13 days and wanted to stay 3 more but had to leave. Iligan City Public Plaza (Park) has bands on the weekends and free if not in the sit down / chair area. You can meet all kinds of people there if you are just a little bit social and want to talk to a girl and hand her your number for later. Fun relaxing open vibe with food stalls all around.
Cagayan de Oro I liked. They had 9 days worth of street girls for me. Vincente de Lara Park (McArthur Park when I was there) actually has lots of trees and has lights up in the trees so is relaxing to visit at night. Plaza Divisoria is one long park broken up by streets into several smaller parks. Weekends they always have something going on. I think they also have a band of sorts every Fri / Sat night.
If you want to pickup everyday girls doing everday stuff who are working, walking past, shopping at the mall I would rate them like this. Friendly and open: Iligan, CDO, Davao, GenSan, Cotabato (avoid like the plague).
Go now with all the Christmas decorations up and girls needing spending money. Many things are happening at those parks during the Christmas season so many girls that normally do not go out are now out.Excellent, thank you for the report, that's exactly the kind of info I was looking for.
I'm in two minds here. No disrespect to Phil, he's welcome to prefer, pay for and fuck whomever he wants. However, I'm not flying half way around the world to fuck 40 year olds (again, famous last words 😜 ). As a boss said to me once, hot 20 yos can type too.
At the same time, I've seen many 40+ yo Pinas who hold their age very well. Sure their not tight 19 yos but they certainly have retained their looks and they definitely know how to please a guy in and out of the bedroom, no training required. All would be fought over back home.
I'll split the difference and continue to tap out with early 30 yos and call on air head 19yos to spice things up.
Enjoy. G.Hi G,
Absolutely no disrespect taken.
It's just the circumstances I've found myself in at the time.
I didn't fly this far to focus on the one older contact. I always leave my options open and it's just panned out this way on this particular trip.
However, this girl has provided everything and more during my latest visit.
I think if any of us are getting what we want, so be it.
Congrats to all for getting some of the sweetest pussy on the planet.
_ Phil.
I'm looking for somewhere new.
Anyone have experience with Gensan to Cotabato, Iligan and CDO? I'm thinking a few days at each hitting the internet. Not stopping at Marawi seems wise but the others appear ok.
Thoughts and experiences?
G.My experience is of a different sort. I spent three weeks in Mindanao this past summer visiting my partner who lives in the mountains NW of Gensan. That trip was for time with her, and I wasn't looking for an opportunity to step out. We stayed near Gensan for several days, and spent a lot of time in that city, Polomulok, Koronadal / Marbel, and Surallah. Gensan has plenty of foreigners in the usual areas around the resorts, in the mall, etc. There are much fewer as you go past Koronadal. I would probably suggest not going too far off that path without a trusted Filipina or friend. Not because it is not safe, but because it really isn't a mongering area and it's pretty awkward to be alone. If you're not looking for a relationship, you have no business there. The girls will not meet foreigners for dates or paid encounters near where their family and friends live.
Locamotive
12-06-24, 23:23
In the past it was to get drunk foreigners and still is a little bit. Obviously things have changed or they would not be out in force by 7 pm. It is because older guys 'line in the sand' keeps moving. More precisely keeps dropping. Service starts to trump looks. This is slowly happening to me. I will take less looks and a little older but rarely ever go above age 27. PhilJoy below is already lowered himself into the low 40's. Also, guys start running out of money. So guys start dating older and older women who are cheaper and more into sex because they are not getting it like the younger girls. Not even close. The older ladies are married so they are the ones that hit it and quit it making it easy for the foreigner. So the foreigner keeps taking older and older ladies with not as much hugging, kissing, licking, sucking, etc. Basically just insert the rod until the shot is fired. In time her mouth or pussy just becomes a hole to insert and cum like a glory hole. Now the foreigner gets to the point where he can get his dick sucked by an old ugly woman or someone younger and prettier to get sucked off by not caring as much as to who is doing the job, even if it is a guy. Kinda like sticking your dick in a glory hole and not caring who sucks it as long as he can get a load off. Once the foreigner gets used to that, the Ladyboy bends over and the foreigner says to himself a hole is a hole and this one's tighter.
You can say "No! No! No!" to a ladyboy and they will still follow you for a good distance. The fastest way I get them to stop on a dime and go away is to tell them "You are ugly!" or "You look like a guy! Your preference.
Standards keep dropping for so many people. Look at the picture posted of a non-Filipina that was supposedly found in Mindanao. Sad really.Don't criticize too much for going the older route. This new breed of bar girl the affection and interest is on the low side. Very friendly and flirty in the bar but once in the room its all business. Basically foreigner dude stick it in and lets get this over with. Lately I've had younger ones lets say under 27,yeah they perform, cowgirl, doggy, missionary and blowjob but when the deed is up they wash off and watch TV. The affection or pillow talk so to speak or GFE seems to be disappearing, and spending the night was a big no no. Maybe my last trip was just bad luck but I've noticed this behavior more and more. Nothing wrong with just a screw sometimes, pay up and out the door but not every time. Over 30 it seems the GFE is a given at least in my experience. Don't get me wrong a young beauty is nice to look at but the human connection from the past seems to be disappearing. After my last trip in September I should have stuck with my regulars, the few new ones I tried were not worth the time or money.
Don't get me wrong a young beauty is nice to look at but the human connection from the past seems to be disappearing. After my last trip in September I should have stuck with my regulars, the few new ones I tried were not worth the time or money.Hi Loca, I have to agree.
My recent interaction with an 'older' contact was amazing. Weighed in at just 42 kilograms, had an amazing little body and still held her looks. Unlike many western women.
And she knew how to perform night after night.
It was a GF experience because we have known each other for a few years now.
In these circumstances, it's nice to know you're basically guaranteed a great time, at half the price and without the effort of 'hunting' a potential younger lame experience.
Having said that, I always keep my eyes open for opportunities.
_ Phil.
Old And Ugly
12-07-24, 16:44
I had to take a quick trip to Germany. I enjoyed the beautiful weather for a week, when you look out the window in the middle of the day, you don't know if is day or night, you're getting out of bed, or you're going to sleep!?
Never again!
I don't have to tell you about how happy everybody looks.
ThaiGoodTimes
12-08-24, 10:52
Hi mate.
I did take a look into Phuket and if what I've read is true then the prices being asked are crazy. I have a healthy budget for the trip but I still value my hard earned money and there is the principle that I refuse to be ripped off.
Perhaps prices are more reasonable away from the main strips and via online mechanisms like Thai Friendly, I shall do some more digging.
There is an area called Khao Lak about 1. 5 hours from Phuket and it has nice hotels and beaches. I'm wondering if mongering might be a bit more reasonable there. The hottest girls will probably be working in Phuket but I'm not chasing 9's and 10's, I actually prefer the pretty / well kept next door type as opposed to surgically enhanced model types.
Thanks for your input, I will continue to research. Mongering research can take up so much time LOL.Totally skip Khao Lak Alexandra as there is very very little mongering there, and nothing of even reasonable quality at all.
Heading there for a month long DM course, and firstly I'd like to thank everyone in here for so much information already. I think I've went back about 3 years just to feel up to date!
Second, I just had a few questions about the surrounding areas. I've already bookmarked a few girls for when I'm there, but I know I'll have one or maybe two days off a week when I'm there from the divemaster course. I was curious about the scene in Calapan and Batangas. First, Calapan looks to be a decent town, university there and all that. I'll be doing some prework if possible but if not, has anyone had good info about meets or love hotels there?
Second is batangas, I'll likely be meeting a girl or two there coming from Manila (since I definitely don't want them to stay long term with me in Sabang) so again, any short term hotels or clean hotels you can recommend? Also, there are a few malls there (Bay City and SM City), both near the university. Any recommendations on a better pickup spot? Or any other info would be appreciated.
A little about me, late 30's, white, attached but looking anyways (which is why a long term stay with me arrangement isn't ideal). Not my first time mongering, and not my first time in the Philippines either, though first time in this area. I've never gone to a girly bar, but met a few online through craigslist and tinder / etc before. I did get extorted once in Manila by a tinder date, so I'm definitely cautious LOL.
Thanks in advance!
Old And Ugly
12-15-24, 15:38
Heading there for a month long DM course, and firstly I'd like to thank everyone in here for so much information already. I think I've went back about 3 years just to feel up to date!
Second, I just had a few questions about the surrounding areas. I've already bookmarked a few girls for when I'm there, but I know I'll have one or maybe two days off a week when I'm there from the divemaster course. I was curious about the scene in Calapan and Batangas. First, Calapan looks to be a decent town, university there and all that. I'll be doing some prework if possible but if not, has anyone had good info about meets or love hotels there?
Second is batangas, I'll likely be meeting a girl or two there coming from Manila (since I definitely don't want them to stay long term with me in Sabang) so again, any short term hotels or clean hotels you can recommend? Also, there are a few malls there (Bay City and SM City), both near the university. Any recommendations on a better pickup spot? Or any other info would be appreciated.
A little about me, late 30's, white, attached but looking anyways (which is why a long term stay with me arrangement isn't ideal). Not my first time mongering, and not my first time in the Philippines either, though first time in this area. I've never gone to a girly bar, but met a few online through craigslist and tinder / etc before. I did get extorted once in Manila by a tinder date, so I'm definitely cautious LOL.
Thanks in advance!You got it backwards, the girls are the ones that won't stay with you long term, only if extraordinary arrangements are made, so no need to worry about that part.
Heading there for a month long DM course, and firstly I'd like to thank everyone in here for so much information already. I think I've went back about 3 years just to feel up to date!
Second, I just had a few questions about the surrounding areas. I've already bookmarked a few girls for when I'm there, but I know I'll have one or maybe two days off a week when I'm there from the divemaster course. I was curious about the scene in Calapan and Batangas. First, Calapan looks to be a decent town, university there and all that. I'll be doing some prework if possible but if not, has anyone had good info about meets or love hotels there?
Second is batangas, I'll likely be meeting a girl or two there coming from Manila (since I definitely don't want them to stay long term with me in Sabang) so again, any short term hotels or clean hotels you can recommend? Also, there are a few malls there (Bay City and SM City), both near the university. Any recommendations on a better pickup spot? Or any other info would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance!Hi Mate, Sabang is a great spot for diving and there's some lovely girls there.
Only problem is the Korean dive resorts and bars have basically taken over, but you will find some good options.
My Sabang GF informs me that Calapan is basically the capital of Mindoro and isn't geared for foreigners. Online pick-ups may be the way to go, but she said any foreigner will get noticed and you're sure to score. It's just the quality of girl can't really be guaranteed.
Batangas is much the same and the boat / fast cat trip there from Sabang will probably be quicker than going to Calapan by road.
My advice is to learn some simple Tagalog phrases ie: Salamat / kumasta ka. It's surprising how much of a conversation starter it can be, especially in stores with pretty young sales ladies. On numerous occasions in the past I've managed to get dates and contacts that way. It's also a good way of subtly making it known that you're single, available and looking for some local companionship. Everyone has a sister, cousin, friend who could do with a little reward in exchange for some horizontal folk dancing.
Sabang's a small place and everyone will know who you're with, when you're with them and what your business is.
Don't let that put you off.
I've had a great time there on every single visit and I haven't needed to visit a girly bar to do so.
You will find a few decent hotels in both cites but it's nothing like the big city options, and once again, Batangas is basically a port and commercial center not really set up for tourism. If you can persuade girls to ride the min. Two hour bus trip from Manila and back to see you, they probably won't care where they stay with you. Ideally you'd be best lining up some local talent in Batangas. Even in Sabang, the locals know everyone's movements. As opposed to getting seen heading by road to Calapan, once you're on the boat, you're out of mind, out of sight.
_ Phil.
You will find a few decent hotels in both cites but it's nothing like the big city options, and once again, Batangas is basically a port and commercial center not really set up for tourism. If you can persuade girls to ride the min. Two hour bus trip from Manila and back to see you, they probably won't care where they stay with you. Ideally you'd be best lining up some local talent in Batangas. Even in Sabang, the locals know everyone's movements. As opposed to getting seen heading by road to Calapan, once you're on the boat, you're out of mind, out of sight.
_ Phil.Don't forget that many sabang girls keep a residence in Batangas and go there frequently to visit kids, family etc. If the OP is there for months, then it shouldn't be hard to meet someone either side of the channel.
There is also a college there with many broke students.
Some Batangas girls will meet in manila but they need to be confident that the guy is actually there and it's not a scam. It's a longish bus ride just to arrive and find John is a no show.
Enjoy. G.
That is good to know. Broke college students hopefully should be an easy pickup.
I'll be in sabang for a month but once a week I might want to take a trip to nearby cities and see what I can find there. I've used DIA and tinder there with success in the past (and one terrible experience in Manila) but I have a feeling if those come up empty I should be able to game in a mall near the colleges. There are a few Manila girls I've been communicating with that I'd rather meet up with but I'm not going all the way there and back just for the same quality I can find locally. But if they'll meet me in batangas then it's worth the ferry.
I appreciate the help and tips. First time in the area.
I'll be in sabang for a month but once a week I might want to take a trip to nearby cities and see what I can find there.
I appreciate the help and tips. First time in the area.Hi Joe, if you're not into the girly bars, like myself, just think outside the box and you're sure to score in towns within reach of Sabang.
A few years ago I started using a simple Tagalog phrase and it's always worked for me: Pwede bang magtanong? - Can I ask you a question?
The girl generally says yes or ano yun. What's that?
Just say, "Why are you so beautiful?
You'll either be greeted by giggles or it will generate banter with her friends.
Either way, you've broken the ice and WhatsApp details can be exchanged.
G's also correct in pointing out a lot of Sabang girls have family in Batangas and go back there regularly.
My friend in Sabang has family all over Mindoro and is on the road a fair bit visiting them.
Nearly all the girls working the bars in Sabang are from the provinces or elsewhere.
One of the girls who works with my Sabang GF takes three days to get back home to see her babies that her mother's raising so she can earn 600 p a shift in Sabang and suck cock on the side to pay the bills.
It might be an idea to spend two or three days in Batangas to line up some action before you head to Sabang.
I've even been approached at the ferry terminal on my past two visits by Batangas girls working for the boat companies looking for a foreign boyfriend.
So very tempting, but I declined their advances as I was on my way to catch up with my fuck of the century.
Just my experience _ Phil.
MrPalmerAcc
12-18-24, 18:29
That is good to know. Broke college students hopefully should be an easy pickup.
I'll be in sabang for a month but once a week I might want to take a trip to nearby cities and see what I can find there. I've used DIA and tinder there with success in the past (and one terrible experience in Manila) but I have a feeling if those come up empty I should be able to game in a mall near the colleges. There are a few Manila girls I've been communicating with that I'd rather meet up with but I'm not going all the way there and back just for the same quality I can find locally. But if they'll meet me in batangas then it's worth the ferry..A few words of warning about private ferries from Batangas to Sabang. Outside the Batangas ferry building you will get lots of offers for private ferries. There was one time I missed the last ferry from Batangas to Puerto Galera and decided to give the private speedboat ferry a try. I don't remember the price, but it seemed reasonable (maybe 1000 or 2000 pesos). I got in a private car with a shady looking guy and his son. His son was missing his front teeth and for some reason I started to get the impression that his dad knocked them out. Maybe it wasn't his dad, but the point is I was nervous and thankful for the traffic in Batangas because after being in this car for less than five minutes we were still in town and all sorts of nasty scenarios started going through my head. I ended up giving them 500 pesos as I opened the door and told them I will walk back to the ferry building. Inside the ferry building the tourist information guys told me to go to Calapan and then they said I would have multiple options to get to Sabang on the same night. They were wrong. I got to Calapan after dark (10 pm?) and the town was totally dead with no taxis, no busses, no jeepneys, nothing at all at the ferry terminal. And no way to get to Sabang that night. Grab does not work in Mindoro Island (at least it didn't work then). I ended up getting a decent cheap motel and taking a van to Sabang the next morning, but the point is, I would have been better off spending the night in Batangas and taking a ferry to Puerto Galera the next morning.
Later in Sabang I had a hotel owner tell me that if I had allowed the private car to take me to the private speedboat ferry then they would have charged me 10,000 pesos or some ridiculous amount to get to Sabang. The deal is they might quote you 1,000 pesos and if there are other tourists to split the bill you might get a decent deal, but if you are the only tourist then the whole cost falls on you, and if you don't want to pay, then the private car / taxi will charge you some ridiculous amount to take you back to the main ferry building in Batangas. So, not as bad as the scenarios that were going through my head when I decided to get out of the car and walk back to the ferry building (I thought I was going to get robbed at gunpoint, but the hotel owner assured me that would not have happened), but still happy I listened to that little voice in my head and did not try the private ferry.
For the girly bars in Sabang, District (just 10 meters from Castillo Mini Mart) and Coco Lips (a bit farther down the same alley, underneath the Dream Hotel) are two bars aimed at American tourists. There was one Saturday when some of the other bars were closed because Koreans came and barfined literally all the girls in the other Korean bars, but Coco Lips and District still had lots of hotties. In general, yes, there are a lot of Koreans, but there are still a lot of Americans and Europeans too and lots of beautiful freelancers on the promenade. The way they remodeled the promenade / boardwalk in 2023 is really nice. Anyone who has not been there this year (2024) would not recognize the waterfront. It is actually really classy.
A few words of warning about private ferries from Batangas to Sabang. Sabang private ferries always were expensive. When you think about it, it's a long way to take one or two people esp if the return trip is empty. The banca also need to be a decent size regardless of the number of people because the conditions in the channel can get pretty rough. When the float planes were running, they were actually cheaper than a private van / ferry combo.
I don't know about now but years ago they left from a area away from the regular port and yes, it was legit but looked sketchy as fuck.
I see a lot of hotels and resorts no longer even advertised a direct or private transfer option anymore. Probably because the public ferry option is pretty easy and tim efficient.
Cheers. G.
Errol Flynn
12-19-24, 03:05
Sabang has eight or nine bars, all but one are grouped together on the west side of the alley. Flowers is the other direction on the alley. Bars open around 7 pm, closing seems to depend on the whim of the manager. Melodie, Monro and Flowers have the same owner and arguably the hottest but snootiest girls. Monro in particular puts on big shows (including drag queens if that's your thing). The other bars are a bit more run down, although I found Sugarkiss pretty nice. Most bars have 5-10 girls but you might find 30 girls in a few.
The talent varies both by location and night to night. Drinks are p150-p180 while LDs are p410-p450. There is a big hustle for LDs in all the bars, but it doesn't seem to get you much action in the bar. Standard barfine is p5000 but some girls will ask for tips on top. Most of the girls are not getting barfined. The standard MO is for one dancer at a time on stage in a sexy but not too revealing outfit. While most of the girls sit together ignoring the men -unless it's a group of young Koreans. Not all of the girls dance, and in the fancier clubs the non-dancers might wear unrevealing evening wear.
Due to health issues I'm not pulling girls like I used to. The first two nights I bought a bunch of lady drinks, sometimes for two at a time. It was fun but expensive for no action. Night two I was ready to take a stunning 19 yo from Flowers (sort of tribal looks, but all in proportion, very pretty face). But then she said she had her "pains". Her friend said she only goes with Pinoys. Who knows? Moral, beware the young shy ones (her English was not very good).
Last night I decided to BF at Sugarkiss which has some cuties without being too over the top on the Korean style. Lisa is a 25 yo Manila girl full of energy and bubbly smiles. Cute, a 7 in my book. My brain told me to take her but my dick lead me to Saphire, again a bit tribal with a stunning face. Her body was an 8 in her clothes but a 6 at best out of them. One of the problems with these overdressed bar girls. Her attitude in the room was a 3. I would avoid.
There are freelancers around town, but I was warned that some are underage, so be careful. Hotels here don't check ID.
Since my last visit about two years ago the town has become even more Korean oriented and stratified. There are only a few non-Korean food restaurants left. If it's just girls and sex you want I would go to AC, but if you want to dive or explore PG beyond Sabang there are girls to be had here. There is now a direct speedboat transport between Sabang and Berberade Port outside Batangas. Much more convenient than the big ferries between Batangas Port and Baletero. Speedboat is p2000.
Hope this helps.
Member #4810
12-19-24, 03:11
I appreciate this information from last year, but is anyone able to provide additional information? I am sorry for my naive questions, but I have never been to GenSan.
I know there is nothing like the Walking Streets in AC or Makati, but since I will be there in a month, I am wondering if there are any bars like in CDO, Dumaguete or Davao where local talent can be seen and evaluated in an environment where one can assume that a gentle proposition will not be met with a slap to the face? I assume there are not bikini clubs, but are there any bars with drinking girls?
Thanks!
Gensan is not a dangerous place, and I've been to a lot of the provinces outside of there including Glan, and way up in the mountains around Lake Sebu. Locals, like your girlfriend tend to exaggerator danger all over the Philippines I've noticed. In Davao they'll tell you don't go down to the Boulevard because it's too dangerous. But I think there's more petty crime like theft. I remember getting something stolen but I don't remember what it was. And you'll see the tricycles parked overnight are inside bamboo cages. That's the only place I've seen that.
You're right about the malls, they are clustered in one small area, and that's the center of the universe. But I think there's around five altogether, maybe six.
You don't really see swarms of hot girls but there are some scattered around. You'll get allot more looks from them than you will in Davao. People are super friendly, you still get a lot of hey Joe. There is an occasional foreigner but not many. That being said, hence the food sucks. What restaurants?
And that also means there aren't apartments and condos like you see in Davao. You're not going to see Avida Towers, Magallanes Residence and places like that. It's pretty much a Filipino city for Filipinos. But it's a good place imo, and yes, you can get in the water. It's not a stunning white sand beach, but there's sand and you can get wet. Better than Davao beach anyway. Oh yeah, and it's generally warmer if you like that. It can get hot.
The banca also need to be a decent size regardless of the number of people because the conditions in the channel can get pretty rough.
I see a lot of hotels and resorts no longer even advertised a direct or private transfer option anymore. Probably because the public ferry option is pretty easy and tim efficient.
Cheers. G.Hi G,
I think the bankas are a thing of the past in Sabang when travelling to and from Batangas. Errol mentioned a speedboat service that is now available. I saw a few signs for this service outside a few hotels earlier this month but it seemed to be a limited service ie: one or two a day. You do see groups of Korean divers arriving and departing all day though. I assume it's part of their accom package. Like most transport options in The Phils, online research prior can be conflicting and out of date. I still get the tuk tuk back to the port with the GF and she does a bit of shopping in PG on the way back home to Sabang after I take the Island Water fast cat (45 minutes) back to Batangas.
One of the problems with these overdressed bar girls. Her attitude in the room was a 3. I would avoid.
There are freelancers around town, but I was warned that some are underage, so be careful. Hotels here don't check ID.
Since my last visit about two years ago the town has become even more Korean oriented and stratified. There are only a few non-Korean food restaurants left. If it's just girls and sex you want I would go to AC, but if you want to dive or explore PG beyond Sabang there are girls to be had here. There is now a direct speedboat transport between Sabang and Berberade Port outside Batangas. Much more convenient than the big ferries between Batangas Port and Baletero. Speedboat is p2000.
Hope this helps.Hi Errol,
Great info for those interested in visiting.
I've got quite a few friends in Sabang now, so I don't rely on the girly bars.
I can see your point about if you just want girls and sex, that AC would be a better option. Obviously there's a lot more choice there, but at least Sabang is a fairly decent spot by the water with a decent view. Unlike AC.
Yes, some of the freelancers have a bad rep around town. Not so sure about underage, but there a few that are notorious for ripping off drunk foreigners.
As for food options, yes, it looks like it's all geared towards the Koreans, but if you dig a little deeper, there are quite a number of good other options. It's just a matter of asking a local where you can get a good meal that's not Korean.
I basically head to Sabang on every other trip to The Phils when on business in Manila, so I've got to know the scene and a number of local girls and have found one in particular that ticks all the boxes every time. The local knowledge has been invaluable.
Not all hotels bypass asking for the girl's ID. Well not where I stay anyway. They know the GF so it's not a problem, but with a night shift change and new staff, you never know, so it's best to check in advance.
Just my experience _ Phil.
Errol Flynn
12-20-24, 02:22
Hi G,
Errol mentioned a speedboat service that is now available. I saw a few signs for this service outside a few hotels earlier this month but it seemed to be a limited service ie: one or two a day. You do see groups of Korean divers arriving and departing all day though. I assume it's part of their accom package. Like most transport options in The Phils, online research prior can be conflicting and out of date. I still get the tuk tuk back to the port with the GF and she does a bit of shopping in PG on the way back home to Sabang after I take the Island Water fast cat (45 minutes) back to Batangas.
Just my experience _ Phil.To expand about the speedboats, there are a few running, but they are not non-stop. To take one to Sabang I think you'd need a connection on the Island to set it up / confirm time (Hotel could probably do this). I took one back from Sabang, booked it in a dive shop the day before. Departure time was 12:30 pm (they ask you to be there 15 minutes before but 5 minutes would probably suffice). Given that most hotels have noon checkout this time works pretty well, just checkout and wheel your bag down to the pier, have a coffee if you're early. Trip across takes about 30 minutes. Boat seats about 20 people although there were only 4 passengers on my boat (plus some Pinoys I think were hitchhiking). Really a hassle free way to get back from Sabang. Worth the coin in my book. There were trikes available in Berberabe Port although I had arranged a car.
I'm no expert on PG, although I love the area. I'm sure there are ways to find girls beyond the bars, but the bars are the obvious thing. On the other hand, I had more fun on my previous trip, when I brought a girl with me.
Hope this helps.
Hi G,
I think the bankas are a thing of the past in Sabang when travelling to and from Batangas. Errol mentioned a speedboat service that is now available
Just my experience _ Phil.Thanks for the update. It wouldn't surprise me. The powers that be wanted to redirect traffic to the areas that they controlled.
The bancas were are pretty hairy trip sometimes even the big public ones. Several went down to join Neptune so it would take a braver man than me to do the trip in a normal speed boat. Also, if it's not door to door, what's the point??
Cheers. G.
WestCoast1
12-20-24, 13:03
Walking thru the archives / Christmas is coming. From a smaller town, moved to the big city, then back to the province. Happy and booby. Is there a better combination? May her flag(s) forever wave.
Thanks for the update. It wouldn't surprise me. The powers that be wanted to redirect traffic to the areas that they controlled.
The bancas were are pretty hairy trip sometimes even the big public ones. Several went down to join Neptune so it would take a braver man than me to do the trip in a normal speed boat. Also, if it's not door to door, what's the point??
Cheers. G.Thanks G,
Did bankas in Bohol years ago and it was an experience.
These days to get from Sabang to Manila I usually do the Sikat option for about 1500 p.
It's in a big fastcat boat (you don't notice too much movement) and then you scramble for the bus once you hit Batangas to get to Manila.
Not door to door but works every time.
_ Phil.
I'm no expert on PG, although I love the area. I'm sure there are ways to find girls beyond the bars, but the bars are the obvious thing. On the other hand, I had more fun on my previous trip, when I brought a girl with me.
Hope this helps.It sure helps Errol.
Any info we can offer to those that are curious about the area can only help.
I love PG also. Mainly because I have some really good friends in PG now and it's a nice coastal spot within easy reach of Manila.
Like any place, it takes experience to know how everything works.
We have some really good contributors on this forum who offer some great advice about travelling all over the The Phils.
Happy days _ Phil.
Hi Guys,
Just letting you know the Batangas port upgrade has gone ahead and is now quite impressive.
You no longer have to deal with all the vendors and touts before entering the port gates.
Once you're inside, you're free from hassles.
As soon as you get off a bus, or out of your transport upon arriving there, you still may have someone wanting to help you with your bags, but it's nothing like it used to be.
Just tell them to fuck off in the nicest possible way.
There's also a 7/11 opposite the port entry, so I usually stock up on stuff there for the wait and the trip to Puerto Galera and beyond.
_ Phil.
LoveItHere69
12-25-24, 17:43
Where are the street girls standing on the beach path? I can find them once I get there but that does me no good when I need to know now to find a hotel at least semi-close to where they are. Please name 2 businesses nearby so I can at least find one on google maps. I was there twice before covid so I know they are there. Just worried what the quality, quantity, and price are now. But no way will I bring my own. I will spend the first 3 days at the north end of the island just to vegetate to get away from people, noise, and grim after being in Jakarta.
Any nice islands nearby to check out with white beach and baby blue water? Corona is too far and for a possible future trip.
Old And Ugly
12-25-24, 23:48
Where are the street girls standing on the beach path? I can find them once I get there but that does me no good when I need to know now to find a hotel at least semi-close to where they are. Please name 2 businesses nearby so I can at least find one on google maps. I was there twice before covid so I know they are there. Just worried what the quality, quantity, and price are now. But no way will I bring my own. I will spend the first 3 days at the north end of the island just to vegetate to get away from people, noise, and grim after being in Jakarta.
Any nice islands nearby to check out with white beach and baby blue water? Corona is too far and for a possible future trip.Nope, no islands, nice, or ugly, nearby, but Boracay itself, it supposed to be the nicest place in the PH. So why go there if you want to get away from it? The only other islands are actually close to the Caticlan, and are overrun with tour boats, because there is no other place to take the tourist's money for the island hoping scam, nothing memorable beside a cave with few hundred koreans taking pics inside.
There is a lovely beach at the north end of the island called Puka Beach, but it becomes crowded at the times when the tour boats are stopping by.
If you book any of the expensive hotels in the NW of the island you will get your peace and quiet, they are mostly deserted, and they have their own beach, because people don't want to stay too far away from the restaurants, bars, shops, and everything else that brings them to Boracay.
About the street girls: people keep writing about them here, but I didn't see any, just ladyboys lurking in the shadows. I was there 3 times last year, maybe it changed since.
Errol Flynn
12-27-24, 06:03
Where are the street girls standing on the beach path? I can find them once I get there but that does me no good when I need to know now to find a hotel at least semi-close to where they are. Please name 2 businesses nearby so I can at least find one on google maps. I was there twice before covid so I know they are there. Just worried what the quality, quantity, and price are now. But no way will I bring my own. I will spend the first 3 days at the north end of the island just to vegetate to get away from people, noise, and grim after being in Jakarta.
Any nice islands nearby to check out with white beach and baby blue water? Corona is too far and for a possible future trip.If you want to get away from it all go to Tablas (1. 5 hrs from Caticlan by Bangka boat) there you will find deserted white sand beaches. There are FLs on Boracay. Some on the beach, some in big hotel bars. But they have to be discrete and they aren't plentiful. Best bet might be to chat up a shop girl in the'Mall if you have some game. I've been to Boracay twice in the last year but always brought my own pussy. Grab a girl in Cebu is my suggestion.
Where are the street girls standing on the beach path?Info from couple of years ago.
There's a few (not that many) on the boardwalk in Station 2. They hang out in front of that bar that has live music. It was the only bar that was crowded (it's not that big) with Fhilipinos and tourist every night. Logically, the freelancers would hang out in front of the only bar that is crowded with tourist. I walked along all 3 stations during the late evening time; that bar was the only thing happening I observed. Quality and quantity were very poor. I never went to the nightclubs.
Any nice islands nearby to check out with white beach and baby blue water? Corona is too far and for a possible future trip.Nice? I would say no, but there are at least 2 islands nearby. I rented a private banca and did a tour. As you face the ocean from station 2, there is a lagoon / bay to the right of you. Then to the left of you on the other side, there are 2 islands. One island has some caves where you can pay extra and tour. You can look at Maps, and google for the info. The problem with Boracay is that the beach is the only thing that is nice.
About the street girls: people keep writing about them here, but I didn't see any, just ladyboys lurking in the shadows. I was there 3 times last year, maybe it changed since.Hi OAU. Have to agree there are many chicks with dicks, and anywhere in the Phils.
You get quite a lot around the Station 2 bars, but there's other talent lurking behind the palm trees checking you out, as I have experienced.
In Boracay, I have still relied on my trusty approach in The Phils of asking the hotel security, the chick behind the desk, the tuk tuk driver etc etc where can I find a pretty girl? Admittedly, results have been mixed, but I've always got one way or the other and had a good night.
Where are the street girls standing on the beach path? I can find them once I get there but that does me no good when I need to know now to find a hotel at least semi-close to where they are. Please name 2 businesses nearby so I can at least find one on google maps. I was there twice before covid so I know they are there. Just worried what the quality, quantity, and price are now. But no way will I bring my own.Mate, you need to stay around Station 2.
Just google accommodation Boracay Station 2.
Just get friendly with a few locals and let them know what your intentions are and you'll probably get sorted. It's not as if you can walk into a bar in Boracay and make a choice.
So yes, there are still options on the beach path. Have the right friendly attitude because I've seen them dismiss obnoxious, drunk arseholes _ Phil.
LoveItHere69
12-27-24, 16:56
I said I have been there twice before. I won't ask any more questions. I have not been there for 5+ years and still know more than you guys. From my memory it is south of d'Mall down to around OM Bar. If you see lady boys then the real girls usually stand behind them. Why? The LBs are aggressive with us and them. You do not see the girls because you are trying to fend of the POS LBs. The real girls are hard to tell that they are real girls because it is dark and you need to be up close and personal in order to tell. I will know in my first night passing by once or twice. Usually there are 2 locations with a few girls. The island is more and more family oriented so many girls keep moving and just make eye contact as they pass by. Simple. Also, just ask a few local guys. Very simple.
Two pictures but neither showing a white beach or baby blue water that I asked for.
You ask "get away from it" which I said people, noise, and grim in Jakarta. It is worse than Manila and I have been here 2 months. Being around a lot of people on a beautiful beach with perfect sunsets with a sea breeze is vastly better than smog, endless traffic, and noise from Muslim chants every night all over the city at 4:00 am for 15 minutes. I need three nights at the north end before dealing with the people bugging with tours and LBs.
Tablas Island is about 300 times larger than Boracay. No beach listed. How exactly does that help me? I can find a quiet island. FYI the Philippines has over 7000 of them.
The point was I needed someone who has been to Boracay AND to a similar white sandy beach and baby blue water. Pictures on the web are so photo shopped it is getting more and more useless.
I said I do not want to bring my own but you guys feel the need to tell me that you bring your own. I do not care what you do.
All I wanted was:
Sugar Ass Island (Magic Beach).
FL near XYZ Pizza or ABC Hotel.
WestCoast1
12-28-24, 01:33
I said I have been there twice before. I won't ask any more questions. Promises made.
I have not been there for 5+ years and still know more than you guys. We hereby crown thee ISG Boracay King.
All I wanted was:
Sugar Ass Island (Magic Beach).
FL near XYZ Pizza or ABC Hotel.If only you'd been more specific. You may have been requesting information that does not exist amongst the reporting fellas. Alas this place is not a database of information, its a collection of experiences. Wading thru the rocks to find a gem is who we are. Post up some of your experiences after your trip there, and help us peons.
The point was I needed someone who has been to Boracay AND to a similar white sandy beach and baby blue water. Pictures on the web are so photo shopped it is getting more and more useless.And of course, post us up some of the pics you took, not those crappy pics taken from websites.
Old And Ugly
12-28-24, 02:46
...
Two pictures but neither showing a white beach or baby blue water that I asked for.
...That's exactly what I wanted to show you, what's on the other 2 islands much closer to Caticlan than to Boracay: nothing, no white beaches, just a cave with 1000 koreans, just as I described.
Tablas Island doesn't have nothing to do with Boracay, therefore nobody here knows about it, is like a 2-3 hours boat ride away, if there is any boat willing to take you there, more likely you have to try doing that from Caticlan.
Don't be so arrogant telling everybody that you know more from 5 years ago than they do, in case you didn't figured out by now, after the scamdemic, everything has changed, in better or worst, businesses, gathering places, people habits, prices, etc. lots of previous info is obsolete or irrelevant. Yes, about 5 years ago, when everybody was saying that there is no action on Boracay, I did find a place with about 10-15 girls for rent, 1-1.5k each, on the road going to the E side, but is not here anymore, maybe it disappeared, maybe it moved, who knows. Go to 7/11 close to where the tour guides are gathering and ask for "Bob Marley" if he still around he'll point you in the right direction for a few hundert peso
The name of the bar that you're looking for is Nigi-Nigi, they have rooms, but nothing special, and very noisy.
WestCoast1
12-28-24, 12:47
And of course, post us up some of the pics you took, not those crappy pics taken from websites.And speaking of home-grown pics. Get out there and make someone happy.
I said I have been there twice before. I won't ask any more questions. I have not been there for 5+ years and still know more than you guys.
Mate, with your experience I'd just go there and sort it out for yourself.
The name of the bar that you're looking for is Nigi-Nigi, they have rooms, but nothing special, and very noisy.Hi OAU, I stayed at Nigi's last year and the rooms were really good and no need to screen your freelancers on the way back to your room. Yes, I agree. It's a really noisy bar on the beach with nice rooms out the back and a regular, average, loud band playing every night. I personally wouldn't classify it as a pick-up joint. Old mate will work it out. Some people want all the work done for them.
I'll be back in Boracay in March and will report tips and hints for those interested _ Phil.
LoveItHere69
12-28-24, 16:49
Promises made.
We hereby crown thee ISG Boracay King.
If only you'd been more specific. You may have been requesting information that does not exist amongst the reporting fellas. Alas this place is not a database of information, its a collection of experiences. Wading thru the rocks to find a gem is who we are. Post up some of your experiences after your trip there, and help us peons.
And of course, post us up some of the pics you took, not those crappy pics taken from websites.You all basically did the Filipino thing that you all yourselves complain about. You go to the store asking for leather sandals. They do not have that but still waste your time by showing you the soccer shirts they do have.
I never asked for your experiences or what you you thought. Only a name of an island and the name of a beach like White Beach on Boracay Island. Also, closest businesses to where the street girls stand. Obviously not so simple.
I ask for a hamburger place in Angeles and get the names of pizza places in Subic. Thanks so much.
FYI: no questions asked.
Old And Ugly
12-28-24, 23:47
You all basically did the Filipino thing that you all yourselves complain about. You go to the store asking for leather sandals. They do not have that but still waste your time by showing you the soccer shirts they do have.
I never asked for your experiences or what you you thought. Only a name of an island and the name of a beach like White Beach on Boracay Island. Also, closest businesses to where the street girls stand. Obviously not so simple.
I ask for a hamburger place in Angeles and get the names of pizza places in Subic. Thanks so much.
FYI: no questions asked.I gave you the exact answers, no running around, probably you may not like them, but I repeat them just in case:
No nice Islands, the bar with the live band with lots of people outside is Nigi-Nigi, the peace and quiet beaches are in NW, most of the shadow crawlers are LBs, Tablas Island is very far. What can be more clearer than that?
I may be wrong? Yes, but not off topic.
LoveItHere69
12-29-24, 08:59
Years ago when I went to Boracay, I believe it was a disco and not just a bar. It was on the main road in the center of the island. Never read any comments about it so maybe it was just a bar. I was across the street and the music was so F-ing loud there was no way I could even enter that place or even stand outside the place.
See you there PhilJoy. I will be there March 19 to roughly April 1 or 2.
Old And Ugly
12-30-24, 04:07
Years ago when I went to Boracay, I believe it was a disco and not just a bar. It was on the main road in the center of the island. Never read any comments about it so maybe it was just a bar. I was across the street and the music was so F-ing loud there was no way I could even enter that place or even stand outside the place.
See you there PhilJoy. I will be there March 19 to roughly April 1 or 2.Yes there were 2 discos, open air ones, but they are gone, now is only one indoor, with big screens and much louder music. The thing is that is so loud, and so crowded, that you can really talk to anybody, or see anything inside. Also you'll have to pay before, to be able to see what's inside, no peeking. Mostly groups going in there. Some people gather outside, but not like it used to be at the former ones 5 years ago. The biggest crowd I saw was outside Nigi-Nigi.
I am joining a group of mostly guys scuba diving in Puerto Galera / Sabang in March. I wouldn't be surprised if others end up having late night adventures in town, but we aren't planning or discussing this ahead. I should have my own room.
Are all the hotels "Girl Friendly"? How do I find out? I can't exactly ask the hotel what their rules are on prostitutes and don't want to bar-fine a girl and then have trouble sneaking her in.
Do I have any options other than to bar fine a girl and take her back to the resort for the night? Do any of the clubs have private rooms or that sort of thing? Any hourly hotels?
I've been hearing bar fine prices around 5000 php. Does this typically include the cost of service? Or is this only money for the bar and the girl gets paid separately? If I am paying a girl separately, what is a fair price? From what I've read, most of the action is in the clubs. Should I consider street walkers?
RickTheDiver
01-11-25, 15:55
I am joining a group of mostly guys scuba diving in Puerto Galera / Sabang in March. I wouldn't be surprised if others end up having late night adventures in town, but we aren't planning or discussing this ahead. I should have my own room.
Are all the hotels "Girl Friendly"? How do I find out? I can't exactly ask the hotel what their rules are on prostitutes and don't want to bar-fine a girl and then have trouble sneaking her in.
Do I have any options other than to bar fine a girl and take her back to the resort for the night? Do any of the clubs have private rooms or that sort of thing? Any hourly hotels?
I've been hearing bar fine prices around 5000 php. Does this typically include the cost of service? Or is this only money for the bar and the girl gets paid separately? If I am paying a girl separately, what is a fair price? From what I've read, most of the action is in the clubs. Should I consider street walkers?I have been going to Puerto Galera / Sabang for a number of years for diving which is the main reason for going there and also enjoying the nightlife. There are a number of girl bars / clubs which should keep you entertained. But Sabang is not Angeles City, as it is much smaller and therefore less choice of bars and girls. In answer to your questions:
1. You should have no trouble with the main hotels / diving resorts in bringing a girl back for the night. As far as I know, there are no hourly-rate hotels in Sabang.
2. The clubs in Sabang don't have private rooms, so its all take-out.
3. You are right the main action is in the bars. In Sabang, unlike Makati, the bar fine (5000 php) includes the service of the girl for LT. I advise you check with the girl's mamasan that the girl is all night (LT) and what's included e. G. BJ, BBBJ. To avoid any disappoint. If the girl does a good job then you can give her a tip (500 php) as she only gets half the bar fine (2500 php) and the bar keeps the rest.
4. There are street-walkers later at night along the recently built sea wall road. If you get one, take care to lock away your valuables in your room. Remember some street girls are there because the bars do not hire them as they caused trouble in the past, don't have ID, or only fake ID. So you are safer getting a girl from the bar if you are a first-timer in Sabang.
I hope this helps. I will be going to Sabang / Puerto Galera in February, so I will file a FR on the bars as things do change there.
I am joining a group of mostly guys scuba diving in Puerto Galera / Sabang in March. I wouldn't be surprised if others end up having late night adventures in town, but we aren't planning or discussing this ahead. I should have my own room.
Are all the hotels "Girl Friendly"? How do I find out? I can't exactly ask the hotel what their rules are on prostitutes and don't want to bar-fine a girl and then have trouble sneaking her in.
Do I have any options other than to bar fine a girl and take her back to the resort for the night? Do any of the clubs have private rooms or that sort of thing? Any hourly hotels?
I've been hearing bar fine prices around 5000 php. Does this typically include the cost of service? Or is this only money for the bar and the girl gets paid separately? If I am paying a girl separately, what is a fair price? From what I've read, most of the action is in the clubs. Should I consider street walkers?Hi Mate,
If you book your room for two (which shouldn't cost any more) you shouldn't have an issue. You'll just have to check her in as your partner and she'll need to show them her ID.
But then again, I can't guarantee what the hotel staff will assume on the night. Best to tip the security guy 500 p when you first get there to help you out with unlimited access.
Other than bar fines, you'd probably have to know local girls in advance.
There are freelancers on the new boardwalk, but be wary of them. Some work in teams offering a two girl experience. From reports, while you're fucking one, the other will be stealing all your stuff.
There are a pack of Lady Boys that hang out after a few beers at Izakaya Palm bar and restaurant. Don't go near them. My Sabang GF knows some of them and their plan is to get any foreigner wasted and then steal what they can.
Bar fines: You pay the mama and then pay the girl.
Don't rip them off.
Although I don't bar fine and have my regular girls in Sabang, I hear what the going rates are and 5000 sounds right.
My tip is, get to know a few locals when you're there, keep in touch, and then on your next visit, deal directly with them and eliminate the bar fines and Lady Drinks. To an extent.
Despite the somewhat negative feedback, I've always had a great time in Sabang _ Phil.
Giovanni Volo
01-11-25, 21:04
Hello everybody.
I am coming in Philippine from Friday 18th of April till Saturday 3rd of May.
I know is not the best time to look for girls, but these are my holydays. .
I know FIlippine girls live town during that time.
In your wiew in Makati there are someones living that remain and keep working? (obvioulsy Esatern day exclude).
And, more important question, around when a right quantity of girls be back to work in Sabang? Around 25th of April or when?
Thanks in advance for any useful reply. When girls are not here I will go to some island for the sea (Boracay or Palawan).
Hi Mate,
If you book your room for two (which shouldn't cost any more) you shouldn't have an issue. You'll just have to check her in as your partner and she'll need to show them her ID.
But then again, I can't guarantee what the hotel staff will assume on the night. Best to tip the security guy 500 p when you first get there to help you out with unlimited access.
Other than bar fines, you'd probably have to know local girls in advance.
There are freelancers on the new boardwalk, but be wary of them. Some work in teams offering a two girl experience. From reports, while you're fucking one, the other will be stealing all your stuff.
There are a pack of Lady Boys that hang out after a few beers at Izakaya Palm bar and restaurant. Don't go near them. My Sabang GF knows some of them and their plan is to get any foreigner wasted and then steal what they can.
Bar fines: You pay the mama and then pay the girl.
Don't rip them off.
Although I don't bar fine and have my regular girls in Sabang, I hear what the going rates are and 5000 sounds right.
My tip is, get to know a few locals when you're there, keep in touch, and then on your next visit, deal directly with them and eliminate the bar fines and Lady Drinks. To an extent.
Despite the somewhat negative feedback, I've always had a great time in Sabang _ Phil.You are saying on my first trip, I have to go without sex? Or that the 500 security guard tip should work for someone I pick up after the first night?
Are you saying I need 10,000 php per night? 5000 for the lady + 5000 for the bar? I don't want to rip anyone off, but that seems expensive.
How did you meet your regular girls? Were they dancing in a bar and you bar fined them?
RickTheDiver
01-12-25, 11:52
You are saying on my first trip, I have to go without sex? Or that the 500 security guard tip should work for someone I pick up after the first night?
Are you saying I need 10,000 php per night? 5000 for the lady + 5000 for the bar? I don't want to rip anyone off, but that seems expensive.
How did you meet your regular girls? Were they dancing in a bar and you bar fined them?It is 5000 in total, as I said in my post. 2500 bar and 2500 girl. Some bars you pay the 5000 upfront and then tip the girl if she is good at the end, other bars have different rules Talk to the Mamasan and make sure the arrangement is all agreed with the girl to avoid any confusion. Depending on where you stay you may not need to tip security. FYI, if you are in Makati (P. Burgos Street bars) then the Barfine is usually 4 k plus what you agree to pay the girl ST or LT (4 k to 8 k), so its cheaper in Sabang.
You are saying on my first trip, I have to go without sex? Or that the 500 security guard tip should work for someone I pick up after the first night?
Are you saying I need 10,000 php per night? 5000 for the lady + 5000 for the bar? I don't want to rip anyone off, but that seems expensive.
How did you meet your regular girls? Were they dancing in a bar and you bar fined them?Hi Mate,
No, you'll get sex!
The girl bars will see to that.
I tip the security guys in many Phils hotels because then they look after you. Quite often, and on many occasions, they've lined up girls for me. Just make sure the room you book is for two people.
And no, it won't be 10,000.
In Sabang, you pay the bar a percentage and then pay the girl the rest when you're with her.
When it comes to bar girls in the Phils, Sabang is one of the cheaper options.
In many other places in The Phil's you pay everything to the bar, but the girls will usually ask for a tip. Or whatever money they can get out of you.
My regular girls haven't been bar fines. I don't really bar fine girls when I don't have to.
They're local girls who work in regular bars or restaurants.
I've just got to know them really well over the years and don't have to worry about paying for it. Until you factor in meals, drinks, the odd hairstyling appointment etc.
Phil.
In Sabang, you pay the bar a percentage and then pay the girl the rest when you're with her.
When it comes to bar girls in the Phils, Sabang is one of the cheaper options.
In many other places in The Phil's you pay everything to the bar, but the girls will usually ask for a tip. Or whatever money they can get out of you.
It should be half, ie 2500, paid in the bar before she leaves then the remaining 2500 in the morning. Having said that, girls are getting more mercenary so a / those with NEWBIE stamped prominently on their forehead will be asked to pay 100% up front and, be / sadly, one shot runners are becoming more common (previously it was unheard of).
Expect the usual Korean tricks of emptying a bar of the best lookers 2 minutes after opening time and grossly over paying for under performance.
Hello everybody.
I am coming in Philippine from Friday 18th of April till Saturday 3rd of May.
I know is not the best time to look for girls, but these are my holydays. .
I know FIlippine girls live town during that time.
In your wiew in Makati there are someones living that remain and keep working? (obvioulsy Esatern day exclude).
And, more important question, around when a right quantity of girls be back to work in Sabang? Around 25th of April or when?
Thanks in advance for any useful reply. When girls are not here I will go to some island for the sea (Boracay or Palawan).Manila is a very big city, there will be no shortage of girls needing money. Most will be on sies such as Tan Tan or Pina love.
It should be half, ie 2500, paid in the bar before she leaves then the remaining 2500 in the morning. Having said that, girls are getting more mercenary so a / those with NEWBIE stamped prominently on their forehead will be asked to pay 100% up front and, be / sadly, one shot runners are becoming more common (previously it was unheard of).
Expect the usual Korean tricks of emptying a bar of the best lookers 2 minutes after opening time and grossly over paying for under performance.Thanks for the elaboration G.
You've pretty much 'nailed' the situation.
_ Phil.
WestCoast1
01-22-25, 10:41
Itty bitty sub-5' thang needs a pee-nanshal for her upcoming school needs. Guess who was there to slip something into her. . . . purse. . .
Keen Eye Joe 1
01-26-25, 07:38
I normally visit one of Butuan City's music clubs, videokes, or strip clubs 1-2 times per week and casually make a pass driving around the downtown streetwalker corners prior to arrival and after leaving for home.
On Thursday afternoon, I passed an old acquaintance while walking on a downtown Butuan City sidewalk who sometimes operates as a "bugaw", or pimp of street girls. They operate in the late evenings on the streets behind the Saint Joseph Institute of Technology (SJIT) and also on the north side of Guingona Park, known informally as "The Plaza". As an inquisitive and friendly guy, I invited her to lunch at a nearby small eatery so I could pump her for information.
Since I've returned from my "Escape the Philippines' Christmas Season Insanity" trip in late December, I've noticed the SJIT area has been mostly deserted. Also, I haven't seen any obvious street-standers at the plaza for several months.
She says that about a week before Christmas, local law enforcement conducted a large SWAT sweep of the SJIT area. 8 pimps were arrested and illegal drugs were found on many, while 13 girls were "rescued" and told to stay away. Purveyors have been slow to return. A similar sweep was conducted at the plaza a couple of months ago, and late-night patrols have frequently been operating to prevent restarts.
Thursday night, I left one of the area's hostess videoke bars at 1 am. While driving down the mostly deserted (R.) Calo Street toward the highway, I stopped to talk to a short, thin, and dark-skinned girl standing in the shadows under a building overhang with no pimp nearby. 24 years old and fairly pretty to the eyes of this semi-drunk old guy. Definitely hesitant and wary of dealing with a foreigner, but financially desperate enough to take a chance on a late rainy night.
Her price was P700, which is well under the normal P1000-1500 prices of the pimped girls (of which P300-500 is typically paid to the overseer). I showed her my condom and promised nothing bad would happen to her, so she agreed to go with me to a nearby P250 lodge. Service was "meh", but it got the job done.
Yeah, I could make better "arrangements" if I went online and hunted for providers or exchanged numbers with previous conquests. But I hate having my phone continuously blown up with requests and I'm a bit of a spontaneous guy who only wants to "get it out, get it up, get it in, then get away". Oh well, I'm assuming things will revert back to normal soon.
Her price was P700, which is well under the normal P1000-1500 prices of the pimped girls (of which P300-500 is typically paid to the overseer). I showed her my condom and promised nothing bad would happen to her, so she agreed to go with me to a nearby P250 lodge. Service was "meh", but it got the job done.
Prices away from the foreigner haunts can get ridiculously low. I definitely got the impression that girls frequently take what ever they are given by local guys and sometimes that's nothing at all. I had a couple that were stunned when, through no fault of their own, I asked them to leave early with full pay or even tipped them after a job well done.
WestCoast1
01-26-25, 12:36
I normally visit one of Butuan City's music clubs, videokes, or strip clubs 1-2 times per week and casually make a pass driving around the downtown streetwalker corners prior to arrival and after leaving for home.KEJ: Clean out thy In Box.
Keen Eye Joe 1
01-26-25, 13:58
KEJ: Clean out thy In Box.Inbox is cleaned and sanitized, certified cootie-free. Never knew there was a message limit, thanks for the nudge.
Keen Eye Joe 1
01-27-25, 05:07
Prices away from the foreigner haunts can get ridiculously low. I definitely got the impression that girls frequently take what ever they are given by local guys and sometimes that's nothing at all. I had a couple that were stunned when, through no fault of their own, I asked them to leave early with full pay or even tipped them after a job well done.I concur. But as someone who lives in "the province", my perspective is that prices in the foreigner haunts can get ridiculously high.
I support the free-market system where a bar and / or a girl can charge whatever prices they wish. And I support the denial system where a man can decline to pay said prices and either negotiate a lower fare or conduct research online to search for places where they can potentially find a better deal.
Burgos Street bars in Makati? Nah, I'm a retired guy who's not paying those prices when all I'm looking for is fast relief.
P3000 for short time at the Midnight Haven bar (formerly LA Cafe) in the Ermita district of Manila? I can always wait until the next morning / afternoon when I can ride the LRT to the Carriedo Station and find a decent looking P1000 streetwalker along Rizal Avenue. Or I can walk further and choose a young and fairly cute sidewalk stander in front of the Isetan Store on Recto Avenue and go to a Sogo Hotel after stopping at 7-11 for condoms.
If you want Filipino prices, you have to go where there are only Filipino customers.
I've sat and had in-depth chats with plenty of local bar girls, not only in Butuan but also the cities of Davao, Cagayan de Oro, Tagum, and Surigao. It's amazing how few have worked in bars outside of Mindanao and are not very "worldly". Most have very little experience dealing with foreign men, so they haven't been exposed to the free-spending "two week millionaires" that invade the Angeles City and Makati clubs.
Foreigners are comparatively scarce and considered a bit exotic in Mindanao. It attracts a much higher percentage of men in or looking for committed relationships rather than the touristy horndogs. Therefore, I most often receive exemplary service from both freelancer girls and the dancers I barfine.
I'm an old guy. I never have difficulty developing an erection but sometimes I am unable to "pull the trigger". Mindanao girls tend to feel like it's their fault that I'm not able to climax. They will continue to do everything in their power to finish the job. After assuring them the fault lies with me and not with them, they will continue to ask, "Are you sure, sir?".
I concur. But as someone who lives in "the province", my perspective is that prices in the foreigner haunts can get ridiculously high.
Burgos Street bars in Makati? Nah, I'm a retired guy who's not paying those prices when all I'm looking for is fast relief.
If you want Filipino prices, you have to go where there are only Filipino customers.
Foreigners are comparatively scarce and considered a bit exotic in Mindanao. It attracts a much higher percentage of men in or looking for committed relationships rather than the touristy horndogs. Therefore, I most often receive exemplary service from both freelancer girls and the dancers I barfine.
I'm an old guy. I never have difficulty developing an erection but sometimes I am unable to "pull the trigger". Mindanao girls tend to feel like it's their fault that I'm not able to climax. They will continue to do everything in their power to finish the job. After assuring them the fault lies with me and not with them, they will continue to ask, "Are you sure, sir?".Joe,
You have raised some valid and interesting points:
Are provincial girls cheap or are city girls expensive? Previously, when girls' next best alternative was 200 p a day taking in laundry, it was the latter. Now, with IG and LDR Romeo's, high barfines are required just to keep girls turning up for work. I know several girls who dropped out of the bar scene as it was literally costing them money.
Horses for courses. Burgos was never intended as a cheap pump and run destination. Much more a foreigner friendly place for businessmen or weekend millionaires where time and dependability are much higher drivers than unit cost. Yes, times are changing there too but Burgos bars and girls offer a lot more than an average overpass hooker.
Definitely. We all know that the best way to tell if a pina is lying is to check if her lips are moving but I'm sure that I was the only foreigner many of my last trip's girls had met or slept with. Trust me, that's not because of my ravishing good looks or magnetic charm but because I was going to places away from the regular monger trail, where girls outnumbered white guys by a big margin. Note though that there were a couple of times where being a whitie actually scared girls away rather than attracted them.
Again, I totally agree. I have a few girls who specialise in getting the job done regardless of how old and tired I may be. I often swing by towards the end of a trip. They come in very handy.
Cheers. G.
Keen Eye Joe 1
01-27-25, 08:13
Joe,
You have raised some valid and interesting points:
Are provincial girls cheap or are city girls expensive? Previously, when girls' next best alternative was 200 p a day taking in laundry, it was the latter. Now, with IG and LDR Romeo's, high barfines are required just to keep girls turning up for work. I know several girls who dropped out of the bar scene as it was literally costing them money.
Horses for courses. Burgos was never intended as a cheap pump and run destination. Much more a foreigner friendly place for businessmen or weekend millionaires where time and dependability are much higher drivers than unit cost. Yes, times are changing there too but Burgos bars and girls offer a lot more than an average overpass hooker.
Definitely. We all know that the best way to tell if a pina is lying is to check if her lips are moving but I'm sure that I was the only foreigner many of my last trip's girls had met or slept with. Trust me, that's not because of my ravishing good looks or magnetic charm but because I was going to places away from the regular monger trail, where girls outnumbered white guys by a big margin. Note though that there were a couple of times where being a whitie actually scared girls away rather than attracted them.
Again, I totally agree. I have a few girls who specialise in getting the job done regardless of how old and tired I may be. I often swing by towards the end of a trip. They come in very handy.
Cheers. G.I could write a dissertation on this interesting subject, but I'll refrain.
In Philippine girlie clubs, there are three pricing components: Customer drinks, ladies' drinks (LD's), and the Early Release Fee (bar fine).
Last week I returned from a first-time trip to Angeles City, where an old buddy took me to several of his "old retired white man girlie clubs" on Perimeter Road.
I was impressed by the low prices for beverages. A mere P75 for customer beers and P200-250 for ladies' drinks. Bargains compared to the higher prices in Mindanao strip clubs (P120-200 customer drinks and P300-500 for ladies' drinks). Prices for LD's are even higher at the Hot Legs club in Davao City, at P600. Two years ago, I was quoted P750 at one of the Divisoria clubs in Cagayan de Oro!
But I was unprepared for the not-so-subtle pressure exerted by several AC girls to take them out for either short-time or long-time bar-fine outings, at P3500 and up.
I surmise that girls in AC apparently receive the bulk of their earnings through bar fines, while girls in Mindanao clubs secure it through increased commissions from higher LD prices.
Why the difference in bar fine attitudes? Because customers in Mindanao bars are generally not interested in bar-fining and the dancers are generally not interested in being bar-fined.
Why? Plenty of reasons, the biggest of which is the customers are almost exclusively Filipino. Conversations indicate that many Filipino clients don't treat them with respect and fear potential abuse. I'm guessing foreigner men generally behave pretty well because none of us want to be accused and end up incarcerated.
Also, neither the men nor the women want to be spotted by someone who will spread the word to people in their hometowns via the Coconut Telegraph. Most of the Mindanao dancers hail from other places within the island. There are few imports from Luzon or the Visayas region. Being seen and reported on is a real fear among them.
It's rare to see a solitary Pinoy sitting at a Mindanao strip club. The guys always arrive in groups (called the Barkada). Strip clubs for them are as much a social event as an erotic one. They hang out with their buds and sometimes will buy a drink or two for a couple of the gals as they chat at the table and receive their customary over-the-pants cock or thigh rubbing.
If a Pinoy wants to meet up and "interact" with a dancer, they usually ask for and receive her phone number and go to a short-time hotel off the clock, or they pay for use of the club's "VIP room", the price of which ranges between P2000-2500 and includes a certain number of customer and ladies' drinks. Added tips for added services, of course.
So how does this factor into an urban versus rural divide in girl pricing? I'm not sure if it's more of a geographical thing as it is a venue setting thing.
We all rank a woman's looks on a scale of 1-10. Butuan City streetwalkers (who I would rank between 2-6) normally cost P1,000-1,500 (including pimp charges).
Last week, I chatted with two daytime streetwalkers in the Cubao section of Quezon City (QC), standing along EDSA in front of the Farmer's Plaza Mall. I'd give one a 3 and the other a 5. Each wanted P1,000 for their services. Same pricing over in the Carriedo section of Manila.
When you factor in that the daily minimum wage in Butuan is around P400/ day and in QC is around P600/ day, Metro Manila's middling streetwalkers are value-priced compared to similar gals in Butuan City.
As far as pricing for high quality women in Makati clubs and in online venues? Quality ain't cheap anymore. Thanks to the WWW, attractive women who are media-savvy know their worth and there's plenty of money being thrown at them by local and foreign men in an increasingly wealthy country (at least for the upper 20% of earners).
The advantage of living in farflung areas is there are still fairly attractive women who are too lazy or not interested in electronically engaging the outside world to find financial sponsorships. But they are getting increasingly harder to find down here.
After our fun time in A. See. We headed off to Boracay. So many mixed reviews of this place I had to see for myself. My buddy and myself had a great time there even though we didn't pull anything. Plenty of opportunities but after having the young hotties in A. See. It was had to adjust to the girls of Boracay. I felt like this was a true paradise. I think the hotel we stayed at contributed to that feeling. We were treated very well at the hotel and just about everywhere we went. Restaurants were all good and this would be a good romantic getaway with a girlfriend or someone special.
As far as talent, just about everytime we came out of a restaurant there would be a girl or lb eyeing us and giving us a smile. This was just walking on the main strip. The only regret I had was not stopping to talk to them about price or if they had a younger friend to keep us entertained. So on that front I failed this board. The location of our hotel was zone 2 or whatever they call it.
Last week, I chatted with two daytime streetwalkers in the Cubao section of Quezon City (QC), standing along EDSA in front of the Farmer's Plaza Mall. I'd give one a 3 and the other a 5. Each wanted P1,000 for their services. Same pricing over in the Carriedo section of Manila.
I will be soon the first time in the Philies and in Makati: Are there places with streetwalkers with these prices, away from Burgos St, in Makati?
Also, neither the men nor the women want to be spotted by someone who will spread the word to people in their hometowns via the Coconut Telegraph. Most of the Mindanao dancers hail from other places within the island. There are few imports from Luzon or the Visayas region. Being seen and reported on is a real fear among them.
In my visit to Surigao City I separately had two university girls that preferred to come directly to my hotel rather than meet at a coffee shop. Both girls absolute stunners that were worried about being seen. After this first visit they were happy to go around together to malls and foods.
Provincial girls in their home towns are naturally going to be more cautious.
Isn't it fun!
Plenty of opportunities but after having the young hotties in A. See. It was had to adjust to the girls of Boracay. I felt like this was a true paradise. Restaurants were all good and this would be a good romantic getaway with a girlfriend or someone special.
As far as talent, just about every time we came out of a restaurant there would be a girl or lb eyeing us and giving us a smile. This was just walking on the main strip.Good observation Quack.
And it's not all laid on for you in Boracay. You have to do your own groundwork to score something decent, but I've never walked away from there without some action.
For me it's a bit of an escape from Manila and the big cities between business stuff and it's a great place to take your BYO girl.
Although it's hyped up to be one of the most beautiful islands in the world, there's a lot of better options out there on this earth, if a beautiful island is all you want. But if you want some local action, there's a better chance of finding it here as opposed to other islands at the top of the list.
Putting it simply, if you're beachside, yes it's lovely. However Boracay's not pretty in parts.
Having said that, I'll still be going there to break up my next business trip in March.
The plan is to get some good local contact details this time around.
_Phil.
In my visit to Surigao City I separately had two university girls that preferred to come directly to my hotel rather than meet at a coffee shop. Both girls absolute stunners that were worried about being seen. After this first visit they were happy to go around together to malls and foods.
Provincial girls in their home towns are naturally going to be more cautious.
Isn't it fun!Did you meet them online or strike up a conversation face to face?
I'd agree many college girls in the Jollie Bee, Greenwich Pizza or McDo areas were gorgeous. However none wanted to have anything to do with me when they found out I wasn't single back home.
Well done. G.
Hi Guys,
Hope everyone is having a good time. I know I will be in about two weeks from now.
Just wondering if any of our well travelled friends have done Leyte or Panay?
Obviously not for your typical bar action etc.
I may have the option of travelling there mid year for work options.
I'll try and do some research when I'm back in The Phils next month, but any info from those that have been on 'the ground' there previously would be appreciated _ Phil.
Hi Folks,
First time to Phils and could use some advice. We are a group of 4 friends that meet up once a year to get together and get some mongering in while we are at it. All of us come from large cities around the world so we usually enjoy laid back beach town scenarios more than city nightlife. We fly into Manila late March and will be there for 6 days 5 nights. I'm thinking we spend a couple of days in Manila and 3 in a beach town. The two that I came up with are Sabang / white beach and Boracay. Any advice on which would be best for a combo relaxation / get together / mongering destination? We've been to Pattaya and Phuket several times and always have a good time. We don't mind putting some work in. I'll get tinder and PL going and start getting out there. We all prefer multiple short time action over long time since main point is us catching up with each other. Could some of you wise folks please advice in which will be most efficient given our limited time. Appreciate your help and happy mongering. Cheers!
Hi Folks,
First time to Phils and could use some advice. We are a group of 4 friends that meet up once a year to get together and get some mongering in while we are at it. All of us come from large cities around the world so we usually enjoy laid back beach town scenarios more than city nightlife. We fly into Manila late March and will be there for 6 days 5 nights. I'm thinking we spend a couple of days in Manila and 3 in a beach town.Hi Wadesi,
If you're in The Phils for a short time and mongering is your plan, go for Sabang.
It's close to Manila and fairly easy to get to.
Sure, Boracay's a better beachside location, but Sabang is where the sex is at, between the two options.
You'll see many previous observations in this thread detailing the two.
Basically Sabang is a diving destination without a beach as such, but it does have a lively pay for play scene. It's waterfront and the new boardwalk around the bay has enhanced it compared to a few years ago.
White Beach in the Sabang area is mainly geared for local Filipinos out of Manila for a get-away location without the naughtiness of Sabang. And on my last visit was pretty tired looking.
Although it doesn't live up to the scenic hype online as being one of the most beautiful islands in the world, Boracay is very nice and has a party atmosphere at night.
You'll basically need to hit the nightclubs and hope for the best, or, hope that the freelancers hanging out on the beach don't have a pair of testicles pre-op.
Whilst both locations are quite scenic, Sabang is about sex after dark. Just get in before the Koreans.
(I'll report more on Boracay soon as I'm returning for a few days on my next visit to The Phils in March).
Just my experience _ Phil.
Hi Wadesi,
If you're in The Phils for a short time and mongering is your plan, go for Sabang.
It's close to Manila and fairly easy to get to.
Sure, Boracay's a better beachside location, but Sabang is where the sex is at, between the two options.
You'll see many previous observations in this thread detailing the two.
Basically Sabang is a diving destination without a beach as such, but it does have a lively pay for play scene. It's waterfront and the new boardwalk around the bay has enhanced it compared to a few years ago.
White Beach in the Sabang area is mainly geared for local Filipinos out of Manila for a get-away location without the naughtiness of Sabang. And on my last visit was pretty tired looking.
Although it doesn't live up to the scenic hype online as being one of the most beautiful islands in the world, Boracay is very nice and has a party atmosphere at night.
You'll basically need to hit the nightclubs and hope for the best, or, hope that the freelancers hanging out on the beach don't have a pair of testicles pre-op.
Whilst both locations are quite scenic, Sabang is about sex after dark. Just get in before the Koreans.
(I'll report more on Boracay soon as I'm returning for a few days on my next visit to The Phils in March).
Just my experience _ Phil.Wow, Great information! Appreciate the insight. Looks like Sabang would be a good place to chill along the water and relax with a few drinks then get naughty afterwards. From what I've been reading we can prob wait until a few weeks out to finalize. Look forward to hearing your report on Boracay. Cheers!
Adriano888
02-27-25, 18:59
Hey, can you recommend some cheap guste-friendly hotels in el nido and boracay?
Thanks.
Hi guys,
So as I mentioned a while back, I was heading to Subic but would be 'stationed' in the Freeport Zone due to work commitments, and as it turns out, some unexpected emergency dental procedure tomorrow.
Well, I landed in MNL last night and rode the Victory Liner here today from Pasay without any issues.
It's 20 years since I'd been here, but I've still yet ventured to the scene at Barretto, which I hope to take a look at later this week.
As for now I'm pretty much confined to the Freeport Zone. And it really hasn't changed too much over the years. Old buildings that should have been flattened a long time ago, a shitty beachfront compared to others, but it does seem to be more lively these days.
And without any expectations on the action front, this evening I went to the flash mall to stock up on supplies (and a fair bit of Tanduay from a 7-11 in case a tooth is removed tomorrow) and subtly asked my friendly taxi driver if there were any nice girls in the Freeport Zone?
So within an hour, I had a friend of his niece in the room and sharing the first glass of rhum. And then quite a bit more.
Don't you just love it when a girl that was at mass earlier today asking for her sins to be forgiven, was now asking you if you'd like to throw it up her arse / ass?
I declined the back door action. My three month wait for some Filipina pussy was at the forefront of my mind.
The cost involved: About 500 p in rhum and coke and 2000 p for about two hours play plus a 500 p tip for the girl and the taxi driver.
The reward: The two hours play (three shots) and I now have her as a contact in Whatsapp for future sessions.
The moral: You never know where it's going to come from, but it helps to think outside the box and ask a few questions.
Just my (very recent) experience _ Phil.
It's 20 years since I'd been here, but I've still yet ventured to the scene at Barretto, which I hope to take a look at later this week.Phil's back at it, redefining the friends and family program. 😁.
Barretto can be fun. I guess you know it's a looooong walk from one end to the other. Probably similar in length to Fields and Perimeter combined. Best to concentrate in one end one night then the other the next. The sidewalks can be brutal so be careful or you may be back to the doc for a second visit. Lots of fun girls but I've heard that, like everywhere recently, the prices have taken a jump.
I'm sure you will enjoy. G.
Transporter
03-02-25, 22:36
As for now I'm pretty much confined to the Freeport Zone.
Don't you just love it when the situation makes it much more challenging. I will assume that you can easily get into Olongapo town and play there.
Hi Guys,
I know I may have asked this before, but I think I was asking about freelancers before in Barretto.
Anyway I've searched my old posts without an answer. Forgive me if I have missed something.
Does anyone know if there's any daytime action there, or what time the bars kick-off?
Work's a pain in the ass / arse, as I have these early 830 meetings in the Freeport Zone where I'm staying, and I don't want to drag a girl back here for the night and party if I have to kick her out super early and actually be in some shape looking professional.
If checked available hotels in Barretto and The Pub and a few others are really cheap and have a few rooms available this week, so I may as well pay the daily rate for a room, have some fun and get back to the Freeport Zone before midnight.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated, followed up by a report back _ Phil.
P.S. The dental work's been postponed until Wednesday, so I'm playing in the mean time.
Hi Guys,
I know I may have asked this before, but I think I was asking about freelancers before in Barretto.
Oh shit.
Sorry guys, just realized I'd posted all the latest in the 'Other Areas' thread rather than the Subic specific thread.
No wonder I was looking in the wrong places for some previous info and posts.
When you're on the 'hunt' sometimes it's matter over mind.
_ Phil.
Hey, can you recommend some cheap guste-friendly hotels in el nido and boracay?
Thanks.Hi Adriano,
There's quite a few about in Boracay but you may have to elaborate.
What is your idea of cheap?
And how do you plan to find your 'guest' whilst there?
It can be quite tricky, but definitely not impossible.
Or are you taking your own guest there?
The first step is always to book a room for two adults.
It generally never costs anymore as you're basically booking the room.
The girl, or stray Bakla you hook up with unexpectedly and unknowingly after vast amounts of who knows what, will almost always have to present ID and check in, no matter the time of night.
Basically, if they're 'known' to hotel security and staff and have caused issues in the past, you'll be shit out of luck and will be sleeping alone.
Hope this helps_ Phil.
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