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Penetrador
08-30-21, 09:36
From the Dongducheonjungang station in the lower right corner, the round about is your reference point. The RLD areas are marked with X's.I checked on street view and I found no window girls, is this RLD bars and clubs?
I checked on street view and I found no window girls, is this RLD bars and clubs?No bars and clubs, just window girls. The only thing you'll see from street view are the green or blue privacy curtains that cover the alleyways. You can't drive through and look at the girls, you have to foot it.
SeoulSearching
09-03-21, 03:21
How do the Thai massage places work? There is one between Dongmyo amd Sinseoldong station, on the South side of the street, 2nd floor. It is about 40,000 for 60 minutes. But what do you saw for extras? Thought I read once that you hold up a few fingers? Like 2 or 3? Not sure this place is game for that, or not?
Anybody knows about anma who accepted foreigner in corona situation like this?
I just went to gain and dao anmas but they said they are not accept foreigner.
I just went to fish, catle, and donut anma but it looks like they are not operating anymore.
Please give me suggestion.
I went to the hill, and got called into Green Cafe (I think?) At the top. Was told it was 250 for full service and 100 for a BJ. Knew it was a rip off. Went on Dr to Gireum Station and walked the back areas, I think one old lady yelled at me, but still found a tiny woman to fuck. Probably around 40, but it's standard about there anyway. The RLD isn't off limits to foreigners, IMO, just got to work it and speak a tiny amount of Korean.
Thanks for the info.
Also went back to the massage shop close to the Mapo E-mart.
I tried the new girl, I wasn't offered full service but I was offer a BBBJ for 50 k that I took.
Girls was pretty good at doing it and we also chat a bit after, she was quiet funny.
Found a couple other massage place in the area, will try them soon and let you know.Went back to here the other night too. First tried a newer aroma place I'd seen near Ehwa but it wasnt open.
Did the 100 k aroma, provider was a little chubby, nice tits probably 40 ish? Not thai, but not korean either. Massage was decent enough, standard he wasn't too bad either and I definitely got my full hour (which I like).
This place doesn't wow me, but its pretty solid for what it is and its nice to be able to just walk in. Standard thai places are a better deal, it can be hard to get appointments at them lately.
Anyone got any new massage places?
From the Dongducheonjungang station in the lower right corner, the round about is your reference point. The RLD areas are marked with X's.Thanks. That's helpful info. Much appreciated. I'll report when I decide to brave the rush hour subway and give it a try.
Another one that's way the hell out there near the DMZ in Paju is a huge RLD known as Yongjugol, probably the biggest in Korea now that 588 shutdown. I used to drive over or ride my motorcycle there while seeing the countryside. I only went twice and had mixed results- once at night with only one taker and once during the day with a little more luck.
Your chances of getting action there are probably slim- most girls stay away from foreigners since it affects their Korean customer base. However, if you like adventure, have a car or motorcycle, and like long drives in the country, then this might be of interest.
Paju station is in the lower left and the RLD is in the upper right of the image. You can also Google 'Yongjugol'.That's an adventure. Years back I used to ride my bicycle on the back roads there through the rice fields. Pretty nice. Now it seems like there's another reason to dust off the old cycle. Even if I get rejected, I'll have had my ride down memory lane. I'll report if I make it there. Thanks.
RainingMeat
09-07-21, 11:10
Finally vaxxed. I'm thinking either I hit up Busan RLD or Seoul to get a girl back at a hotel. If I go to Seoul what kind of hotel should I get? I'll probably have to stay over anyway.
I've been looking into several websites but unsure if they offer incall services. Does anyone have any information on this or do all the providers only do outcall?
Is there anyone meet her? I think that she is hot. But I am not sure she is real.
SeoulSearching
09-17-21, 09:33
Is there anyone meet her? I think that she is hot. But I am not sure she is real.I find the prices there laughably off-putting. But I am a cheapie Charlie.
I am on a high right now because I found a nearby shop with a lady in her 50's who is my style. She has the body I like, skin I like, and agreed to 5 min (which really means 10) HJ's for a mere 50 k. She really seems into me, too. Should make for some nice visits. She speaks some English, so I may try to see if she is game to trade English lessons for HJ's. I love it when that works out -- very intimate, with some fun at the end. I was looking for a quick in and out place with an acceptable worker, and I have found it.
Hello fellow mongers,
This is a delayed FR and hence apologies right at the outset.
Was in Seoul before Corona times. Johnny forced me to explore. Quick spa search showed Jinju in Gangnam, wasn't too far from me either. The only risk was whether they took walk ins. Decided to give it a shot.
Walk ins were welcome. Payment was in advance, only HJ on offer, all damages only at the counter. Unfortunately because of currency etc confusion I can't say how much it was. But definitely that all belongings go into a locker, a wearable key is given, and hence no question of tips.
It's like an assembly line, folks.
A euro style shower with fellow visitors going full Monty together, brushing their teeth with the kit provided, and then getting ready.
Next step is a massage with a hot towel wrap. Disposables are compulsory. For a moment I thought I got scammed again. However after the massage another woman walks in, starts giving a vigorous HJ until you come.
I was almost sore.
In summary.
Massage 6/10.
HJ 4/10.
Looks, feel, comfort, fun all 0/10.
WIR: obviously no! I'd rather jerk myself off.
Hi everyone,
This is again a delayed FR (like I noted earlier I decided to be regular poster here and seek help and guidance to avoid any further deceptions / problems) and hence apologies right at the outset.
This is a report of how I got deceived again. This time unintentionally.
Found couple of contacts of indies in Seoul from I think MR or some such site. Texted both, one replied in good English. Claimed herself to be Latina. When asked for pics, she happily obliged. The couple of days we had in between, she was having a decent conversation etc. From the pics she appeared to be an angel. The damages were reasonable too as quoted by her. I think it was about USD 150 for 2 h, at my hotel.
Fixed the appointment, she turned up about an hour late after continually confirming that she's on her way and was stuck in traffic. When she did come to the room, I saw that she had wrinkles, and that look of an artificially slim (like anorexic) person.
I was totally turned off. Politely told her that she looks nothing like her pics. She still asked to confirm if I don't need the services. Calmly. I politely refused. She asked for taxi fare. Gave her USD 25 and said goodbye without even shaking hands.
So much for pics. I should've possibly had a video call but she kept on saying she's in a crowded place with her friends etc. That should've been a clue. Anyway lesson learnt.
Amen.
JeanEspero
09-19-21, 12:48
It sucks that Philippines is still closed to regular travelling foreigners. Normally during holidays vacations and weekends I used to be there regularly.
Yeongdongpo is very YMMV and most girls don't even give you eye contact.
I had some good experiences with younger girls in Miari recently but most of the ones I peek through the curtains with ajuma showing are not appetizing so I keep going. Most of the girls are or look late 30's early 40's over the hill; opposite of 15-20 years ago when there were tons of 20-24 year old girls. One place in Mia has many groups going in every 30 minutes and seem to get all the traffic compared to other places there with bad service.
I had a terrible experience in Miari with a place near the subway entrance (2nd closest entrance and 3 places on the left side invited by a younger looking softer speaking ajuma) so if you don't get any eye contact with the girl after you choose her you better cancel.
I might have to try to visit Dongducheon out of curiosity since Seoul, Pyeongtaek and Suwon are so awful lately.
JeanEspero
09-19-21, 12:55
From the Dongducheonjungang station in the lower right corner, the round about is your reference point. The RLD areas are marked with X's.Wow thanks for the map. No wonder I could not easily find it.
Hi everyone,
This is again a delayed FR (like I noted earlier I decided to be regular poster here and seek help and guidance to avoid any further
Found couple of contacts of indies in Seoul from I think MR or some such site.
Amen.Thanks for taking the chance.
Do you have the name she advertises as?
I've had better luck with Craigslist than MR to be honest. CR is now under heavy moderation though so I haven't had much success in months.
In Korea, is there a forum like ISG?
Trying to find some info where locals go to with reviews but it's been difficult.
Please lmk if you know any.
LuvMexicanas
09-21-21, 04:51
In Korea, is there a forum like ISG?
Trying to find some info where locals go to with reviews but it's been difficult.
Please lmk if you know any.Korean guys don't post about fight club. They only discuss in person with their hyungs, friends and dongsengs while drinking and mongering in a noraebang, room salon and the like. The only way you will get good mileage is to have a Korean (and I'm talking native, not gyopo) buddy. It will open doors that are slammed shut to non-Koreans. Even among Koreans, there are places that will not even take gyopos and only natives. To take it even further, there are places that will even distinguish between native Koreans of higher and lower classes. It is a complex society and the hobbying environment there is no different.
JeanEspero
09-21-21, 06:11
From the Dongducheonjungang station in the lower right corner, the round about is your reference point. The RLD areas are marked with X's.The area had 6-8 ladies over 30 only around 5 pm Chuseok Eve. Maybe I visited too early. Weird that the RLD is in the alleyways semi-covered with curtains smack in the middle of the village / small town. It wasn't my cup of tea, so I headed on to Miari around 6 pm overrun with foreigners and not open maybe too early. Later I headed to Yeongdeungpo and found the Arow completely closed but Brow was a bit happening. I TOFTT in the Brow and it was nice. 80 k with condom and 100 k without but it was a bit rushed.
Penetrador
09-21-21, 22:34
The area had 6-8 ladies over 30 only around 5 pm Chuseok Eve. Maybe I visited too early. Weird that the RLD is in the alleyways semi-covered with curtains smack in the middle of the village / small town. It wasn't my cup of tea, so I headed on to Miari around 6 pm overrun with foreigners and not open maybe too early. Later I headed to Yeongdeungpo and found the Arow completely closed but Brow was a bit happening. I TOFTT in the Brow and it was nice. 80 k with condom and 100 k without but it was a bit rushed.Nice How did she look like? What was she wearing? I wonder with BBFS allows Cip?
Traveling John #2
09-22-21, 14:11
The area had 6-8 ladies over 30 only around 5 pm Chuseok Eve. Maybe I visited too early. Weird that the RLD is in the alleyways semi-covered with curtains smack in the middle of the village / small town. It wasn't my cup of tea, so I headed on to Miari around 6 pm overrun with foreigners and not open maybe too early. Later I headed to Yeongdeungpo and found the Arow completely closed but Brow was a bit happening. I TOFTT in the Brow and it was nice. 80 k with condom and 100 k without but it was a bit rushed.When you say Brow are you talking about the little alley between the glass houses and main road? A few older girls hang out there in phone booth like. It is so hit or miss in Yeong. In Dongde I have a always had success and there was a cute all natural girl in her 20's. I only saw her there once so I guess she moved on.
Traveling John #2
09-22-21, 14:15
Korean guys don't post about fight club. They only discuss in person with their hyungs, friends and dongsengs while drinking and mongering in a noraebang, room salon and the like. The only way you will get good mileage is to have a Korean (and I'm talking native, not gyopo) buddy. It will open doors that are slammed shut to non-Koreans. Even among Koreans, there are places that will not even take gyopos and only natives. To take it even further, there are places that will even distinguish between native Koreans of higher and lower classes. It is a complex society and the hobbying environment there is no different.If you look at the sites they advertise hugtels there are many reviews. Also seems to be discussions boards and member posted ads. Yes, there are always levels based off what you are willing to spend. A lot of options if you want to spend more money.
LuvMexicanas
09-22-21, 16:34
If you look at the sites they advertise hugtels there are many reviews. Also seems to be discussions boards and member posted ads. Yes, there are always levels based off what you are willing to spend. A lot of options if you want to spend more money.I should have clarified. I didn't mean to say there are no reviews, just nowhere near as many as you'd expect to see given the extent the native guys monger.
If you look at the sites they advertise hugtels there are many reviews. Also seems to be discussions boards and member posted ads. Yes, there are always levels based off what you are willing to spend. A lot of options if you want to spend more money.Yes I've seen those but they might be fake? More interested in a forum based discussion for unbiased reviews of all OPs and gunmas.
Found one or two but they seem out of date. I guess Koreans don't really talk about it LOL.
Traveling John #2
09-23-21, 23:15
I was in a RLD recently and when the police rode through they rushed to close all the windows and wait until the patrol was gone. We all know the deal here, everything is OK until it isn't and then there are fines, jail time and embarrassment.
JeanEspero
09-24-21, 11:56
Yes it was BBBJ BBFS with CIP but I thought she used too much jell too slippery during the BBFS so it was also very YMMV and hard for me to stand.
She looked like early 30's maybe wearing jeans but can't remember color of her shirt. She was slender with tiny boobs like an older university girl, the way I prefer.
Yes as someone pointed out there were 4-6 girls situated in the midpoint between the main busy street and RLD street. The other SWs on the busy main were not attractive. I don't know if they are interested in foreigners or not.
Nice How did she look like? What was she wearing? I wonder with BBFS allows Cip?
JeanEspero
09-24-21, 12:23
The opcon website shows tons of reviews from Koreans but the reviews don't provide any details of the actual service provided.
If you look at the sites they advertise hugtels there are many reviews. Also seems to be discussions boards and member posted ads. Yes, there are always levels based off what you are willing to spend. A lot of options if you want to spend more money.
JeanEspero
09-24-21, 12:39
Sorry I have to change my previous opstar comment here in ISG.
I found that opstar has long comments about various places written in Korean when you click on hugi and short thumbs up comments when you click on daetgeul. So you can use translate. google.com I guess.
I am also guessing that foreigners might have a different or sometimes same experience then Koreans who write the comments.
There are too many options to choose from when looking at opstar and it gets overwhelming.
Korean guys don't post about fight club. They only discuss in person with their hyungs, friends and dongsengs while drinking and mongering in a noraebang, room salon and the like. The only way you will get good mileage is to have a Korean (and I'm talking native, not gyopo) buddy. It will open doors that are slammed shut to non-Koreans. Even among Koreans, there are places that will not even take gyopos and only natives. To take it even further, there are places that will even distinguish between native Koreans of higher and lower classes. It is a complex society and the hobbying environment there is no different.
Yes it was BBBJ BBFS with CIP but I thought she used too much jell too slippery during the BBFS so it was also very YMMV and hard for me to stand.
She looked like early 30's maybe wearing jeans but can't remember color of her shirt. She was slender with tiny boobs like an older university girl, the way I prefer.
Yes as someone pointed out there were 4-6 girls situated in the midpoint between the main busy street and RLD street. The other SWs on the busy main were not attractive. I don't know if they are interested in foreigners or not.Howdy there!
How much time to they give you for 1 shot service at YDP?
Is there a quick shower there or they just wipe you down?
Thanks.
Penetrador
09-25-21, 12:12
Yes it was BBBJ BBFS with CIP but I thought she used too much jell too slippery during the BBFS so it was also very YMMV and hard for me to stand.
She looked like early 30's maybe wearing jeans but can't remember color of her shirt. She was slender with tiny boobs like an older university girl, the way I prefer.
Yes as someone pointed out there were 4-6 girls situated in the midpoint between the main busy street and RLD street. The other SWs on the busy main were not attractive. I don't know if they are interested in foreigners or not.Thanks. Have you been to the Suwon RLD? I hope all the girls in YDP offer BBFS?
JeanEspero
09-25-21, 13:50
20 minutes very YMMV.
Howdy there!
How much time to they give you for 1 shot service at YDP?
Is there a quick shower there or they just wipe you down?
Thanks.
20 minutes very YMMV.20 min is fast LOL. Do they strip you down once you enter the room? Any quick showers there?
JeanEspero
09-26-21, 02:19
Because it is very YMMV I usually preload with Libido max 2-3 caps from the PX or MaxVit from the Philippines with few sips of energy drink from PX an hour before to digest, then.
20 minutes Right before natural activity I take GooGoo from Korean pharmacy with another sip to swallow the supplement.
Googoo is a local form of Cialis while Palpal is local form of Viagra. Same price for foreigners and Koreans because they are not covered by national insurance.
Maybe this is overdoing it but I have had failure to fire in the past in RLD, so I have to see nonverbal signs from the girl and manager before payment if the experience will be amazingly explosive or not.
Within the RLD experience, they said take off your clothes.
I always ask to use the bathroom to really use it and quickly to wash junior.
They start with BBBJ then they love you while they are on top rodeo style.
I miss the days in Phil when they give you 5-6 hours or all night together to cum so I used to schedule 3-4 per day on the long weekend almost every weekend; that my friends was real all natural love and it was always GFE or GFE / PSE meeting through FB then whatsapp / kakao or local text msging follow up.
In my Korea experiences, I have always done RLD and only recently I started the hugetel / massage research interest recently and there is a huge market in many cities when you find the elusive website. See previous articles here about that website.
20 min is fast LOL. Do they strip you down once you enter the room? Any quick showers there?
Because it is very YMMV I usually preload with Libido max 2-3 caps from the PX or MaxVit from the Philippines with few sips of energy drink from PX an hour before to digest, then.
20 minutes Right before natural activity I take GooGoo from Korean pharmacy with another sip to swallow the supplement.
Googoo is a local form of Cialis while Palpal is local form of Viagra. Same price for foreigners and Koreans because they are not covered by national insurance.
Maybe this is overdoing it but I have had failure to fire in the past in RLD, so I have to see nonverbal signs from the girl and manager before payment if the experience will be amazingly explosive or not.
Within the RLD experience, they said take off your clothes.
I always ask to use the bathroom to really use it and quickly to wash junior.
They start with BBBJ then they love you while they are on top rodeo style.
I miss the days in Phil when they give you 5-6 hours or all night together to cum so I used to schedule 3-4 per day on the long weekend almost every weekend; that my friends was real all natural love and it was always GFE or GFE / PSE meeting through FB then whatsapp / kakao or local text msging follow up.
In my Korea experiences, I have always done RLD and only recently I started the hugetel / massage research interest recently and there is a huge market in many cities when you find the elusive website. See previous articles here about that website.Thanks for the report!
I was just curious how they do things since they only give 20 min. Of course ID shower up before going there anyway but you would think the SP would require the customer to wash up vigorously since a lot of the action is BBFS.
Because it is very YMMV I usually preload with Libido max 2-3 caps from the PX or MaxVit from the Philippines with few sips of energy drink from PX an hour before to digest, then.
20 minutes Right before natural activity I take GooGoo from Korean pharmacy with another sip to swallow the supplement.
Googoo is a local form of Cialis while Palpal is local form of Viagra. Same price for foreigners and Koreans because they are not covered by national insurance.
Maybe this is overdoing it but I have had failure to fire in the past in RLD, so I have to see nonverbal signs from the girl and manager before payment if the experience will be amazingly explosive or not.
Within the RLD experience, they said take off your clothes.
I always ask to use the bathroom to really use it and quickly to wash junior.
They start with BBBJ then they love you while they are on top rodeo style.
I miss the days in Phil when they give you 5-6 hours or all night together to cum so I used to schedule 3-4 per day on the long weekend almost every weekend; that my friends was real all natural love and it was always GFE or GFE / PSE meeting through FB then whatsapp / kakao or local text msging follow up.
In my Korea experiences, I have always done RLD and only recently I started the hugetel / massage research interest recently and there is a huge market in many cities when you find the elusive website. See previous articles here about that website.JeanEspero, Can you just walk into pharmacy and get the GooGoo or Palpal without a script? Thanks for the report and info. I too have been going to hungetel's too when my GF is busy with her family / kids.
Thanks again.
OC.
GuyReynolds
10-13-21, 13:57
Does anyone know the name of the Uzbek restaurant on the hill or does it say something obvious like "Uzbekistan food" in big letters? Looking to try this sloppy talent I keep reading about on here. Does she still look pretty good? A description of large cups make it sound like she's obese and not chubby.
Does anyone know the name of the Uzbek restaurant on the hill or does it say something obvious like "Uzbekistan food" in big letters? Looking to try this sloppy talent I keep reading about on here. Does she still look pretty good? A description of large cups make it sound like she's obese and not chubby.Signage is pretty obvious. Foreign Food Mart is on the opposite sidewalk if that helps.
I don't remember which place it is though as there are 3 doors under the restaurant.
Leftmost girl was okay but I don't think it's her.
BradleyPillay
10-14-21, 18:33
I've tried contacting her but got abrupt responses for whatever reason. It wasn't rude but abrupt / short. I'm going to try contacting her again but, after searching a ton I can't find a single review about her. Has anybody seen her before?
T. I. A.
Something I found useful on my trips to Korea and before the Corona, is a bit of studying, because knowing the language has proved useful on several occasions. Korean Language Decoded is the name of the software, from ZenPowerStore. Did me good, and opened up some opportunities that I probably wouldn't have got. Hooked up in unexpected ways, to include from a conversation at a Burger King in Seoul, of all places. Luck tends to favor the prepared.
I've tried contacting her but got abrupt responses for whatever reason. It wasn't rude but abrupt / short. I'm going to try contacting her again but, after searching a ton I can't find a single review about her. Has anybody seen her before?
T. I. A.I had a similar experience. However she doesn't respond anymore. Not sure if this is a genuine or a fake profile. No responses to calls / mails / texts.
SeoulSearching
10-17-21, 07:33
Does anyone know the name of the Uzbek restaurant on the hill or does it say something obvious like "Uzbekistan food" in big letters? Looking to try this sloppy talent I keep reading about on here. Does she still look pretty good? A description of large cups make it sound like she's obese and not chubby.The Uzbeck restaurant is obvious, and has Uzbekistan large on the sign. I forget the name, but it sounds something like Tazzi or Razzi or some such. It is next ro and above the first right side foreign food market.
The bar under it is Pandora. The girl working there is Nana. She is a little chubby for a Korean (which means sort of normal for many western ladies) but not in a bad way. She still looks very good, for mid 30's. I have known her since the day she started almost 18 years ago at the old Moulin Rouge. Nice lady. The men used to practically line up to see her, back then, when she wasn't constantly on outcall. I think I blew in 20 seconds my first time with her, way back when. I recently saw her (she works fairly randomly) and asked her is she had any sex lately. She just blurted out, "I f'ed two guys this afternoon." I was not expecting a blunt answer. Haha. The other women in Itaewon must be jealous of her business, because I have been asked about her recently.
Chrome and trailor hitch expression fits.
Is all action on the hill covered FS?
BradleyPillay
10-19-21, 13:54
Hi there,
I've found no reviews but an independent Latina on city of love, Seoul, got back to me via email and told me that we can meet up. I'm skeptical though about the post and would like to know if anyone has ever seen her before? If not then it'll be better to venture into a rdl or massage place where I know there'll be a better possibility of some action then take a chance with a scammer. I think there are quite some scams that happens on sites like that.
T. I. A.
RainingMeat
11-05-21, 17:34
Are there any places to pick up street walkers or bars where women hang out and you realize they are punting when they hit on you? I'm in the mood for a Russian.
Have any of you done bbfscip or bbfscim at an OP?
Wonder how safe it is.
I was passing through and decided to check Youngdeungpo out a week or so after the Nov. 1 lifting of restrictions on bars, restaurants, etc. But an hour after sunset the whole street was dark and all curtains were closed. Didn't mean nobody was home as I saw a couple cleaning ladies (pimps?) knock on glass doors and quickly slip inside. Couldn't see in, though. Definitely no "customers" going in the glass doors.
Also noticed a banner above the street. I got the gist of it and it sounded ominous. Punched it into google translate which spit out "youngdeungpo station downtown station area urban redevelopment. Type: redevelopment project promotion preparatory committee. " Sounds to me like the RLD is on the chopping block. But I haven't been there till recently, so veterans may have been seeing the banner for a while. If so, maybe it's not as ominous as it sounded to me.
Anyway, reaching the west end of the main glass windows street and turning left towards the big street that parallels the subway tracks there was actually one booth lit up and open—but with a fattie / ugly. Got to the main street paralleling the tracks and turned left again heading back toward the subway station. Was a bit surprised to see a couple of (unlit) booths right on the big, main street with providers waiting in them. But so oldie / fattie / ugly that I just kept walking. About halfway back to the major intersection in front of the station, though, there was a small street leading left into the be row, where red lights were on an business was open. But no one was game for me when I walked through. Others may have better luck.
That was all that I could see going on there the evening I walked through. Don't know what it was like in the past, but it doesn't seem very happening these days.
I was passing through and decided to check Youngdeungpo out a week or so after the Nov. 1 lifting of restrictions on bars, restaurants, etc. But an hour after sunset the whole street was dark and all curtains were closed. Didn't mean nobody was home as I saw a couple cleaning ladies (pimps?) knock on glass doors and quickly slip inside. Couldn't see in, though. Definitely no "customers" going in the glass doors.
Also noticed a banner above the street. I got the gist of it and it sounded ominous. Punched it into google translate which spit out "youngdeungpo station downtown station area urban redevelopment. Type: redevelopment project promotion preparatory committee. " Sounds to me like the RLD is on the chopping block. But I haven't been there till recently, so veterans may have been seeing the banner for a while. If so, maybe it's not as ominous as it sounded to me.
Anyway, reaching the west end of the main glass windows street and turning left towards the big street that parallels the subway tracks there was actually one booth lit up and openbut with a fattie / ugly. Got to the main street paralleling the tracks and turned left again heading back toward the subway station. Was a bit surprised to see a couple of (unlit) booths right on the big, main street with providers waiting in them. But so oldie / fattie / ugly that I just kept walking. About halfway back to the major intersection in front of the station, though, there was a small street leading left into the be row, where red lights were on an business was open. But no one was game for me when I walked through. Others may have better luck.
That was all that I could see going on there the evening I walked through. Don't know what it was like in the past, but it doesn't seem very happening these days.At what time did you visit? When I was there summer 2019 everything was closed until 20:00. At 20:00 suddenly all the lights in the houses along the main road lit up and out came the ladies.
Penetrador
11-08-21, 12:03
I was passing through and decided to check Youngdeungpo out a week or so after the Nov. 1 lifting of restrictions on bars, restaurants, etc. But an hour after sunset the whole street was dark and all curtains were closed. Didn't mean nobody was home as I saw a couple cleaning ladies (pimps?) knock on glass doors and quickly slip inside. Couldn't see in, though. Definitely no "customers" going in the glass doors.
Also noticed a banner above the street. I got the gist of it and it sounded ominous. Punched it into google translate which spit out "youngdeungpo station downtown station area urban redevelopment. Type: redevelopment project promotion preparatory committee. " Sounds to me like the RLD is on the chopping block. But I haven't been there till recently, so veterans may have been seeing the banner for a while. If so, maybe it's not as ominous as it sounded to me.
Anyway, reaching the west end of the main glass windows street and turning left towards the big street that parallels the subway tracks there was actually one booth lit up and openbut with a fattie / ugly. Got to the main street paralleling the tracks and turned left again heading back toward the subway station. Was a bit surprised to see a couple of (unlit) booths right on the big, main street with providers waiting in them. But so oldie / fattie / ugly that I just kept walking. About halfway back to the major intersection in front of the station, though, there was a small street leading left into the be row, where red lights were on an business was open. But no one was game for me when I walked through..I hope nothing happens to it and stay open and operating for a long time! I need to know at what times and day most girls are open for business?
Nother Monger
11-08-21, 23:04
I hope nothing happens to it and stay open and operating for a long time! I need to know at what times and day most girls are open for business?It sounds like it will be closed / "renovated" like Chun-ho and 588 was. I wouldn't count on it being open for much longer. Korea started on this road to clean up things like this years ago.
At what time did you visit? When I was there summer 2019 everything was closed until 20:00. At 20:00 suddenly all the lights in the houses along the main road lit up and out came the ladies.Really? Interesting. Sunset was at around 5:30 when I went there and I loitered around the area till about 7. Sunset in July is around 8, but maybe it doesn't have to do with how dark it is. That would be interesting if there is an "opening time" since there wasn't at the former Yongsan and Cheongnyangni RLDs (though of course there were more girls at night at those places). Maybe I'll have to go back after 8 next time. Thanks for the tip.
MickeyDuck1208
11-10-21, 02:08
I was passing through and decided to check Youngdeungpo out a week or so after the Nov. 1 lifting of restrictions on bars, restaurants, etc. But an hour after sunset the whole street was dark and all curtains were closed. Didn't mean nobody was home as I saw a couple cleaning ladies (pimps?) knock on glass doors and quickly slip inside. Couldn't see in, though. Definitely no "customers" going in the glass doors.
Also noticed a banner above the street. I got the gist of it and it sounded ominous. Punched it into google translate which spit out "youngdeungpo station downtown station area urban redevelopment. Type: redevelopment project promotion preparatory committee. " Sounds to me like the RLD is on the chopping block. But I haven't been there till recently, so veterans may have been seeing the banner for a while. If so, maybe it's not as ominous as it sounded to me.
I had been there a few months before Covid, Oct / Nov 2018. It was open and business as usual then. I do remember seeing some posts in early 2020 about this redevelopment thing. Not only YDP, I think even the Hill was going to see some changes due to this. But not sure if any of it really happened or things paused due to Covid.
One of the local guys should be able to share details on this. But older posts on YDP redevelopment have been there.
Really? Interesting. Sunset was at around 5:30 when I went there and I loitered around the area till about 7. Sunset in July is around 8, but maybe it doesn't have to do with how dark it is. That would be interesting if there is an "opening time" since there wasn't at the former Yongsan and Cheongnyangni RLDs (though of course there were more girls at night at those places). Maybe I'll have to go back after 8 next time. Thanks for the tip.Your right, 588 and Yongsan were open 24/7, I went many times there, good times. Seems like Ydp is different, I was walking around before 20:00 too and was puzzled that there were no girls. And then at 20:00 suddenly it opened.
Is there any anma which accepted foreigners?
I went to several anma, but they rejected me because I'm foreigner.
I thought it because Covid situation back then, but right now government already lift up some of restrictions and already got vaccinated too.
JeanEspero
11-22-21, 11:22
Extremely sorry for the delayed reply!
As far as I know you can get them without prescription but I never asked directly. Different pharmacies might charge different prices so try to ask an area with many pharmacies like near hospitals. In my Korean pharmacies they are cheaper than US made see and V.
I have been occasionally getting ED during the most inconvenient times, so sometimes the 88 Palpal and 99 Gugu work and doesn't work just like sometimes see and V. In other words I can't tell you perfectly the efficacy of all those supplements.
JeanEspero, Can you just walk into pharmacy and get the GooGoo or Palpal without a script? Thanks for the report and info. I too have been going to hungetel's too when my GF is busy with her family / kids.
Thanks again.
OC.
Extremely sorry for the delayed reply!
As far as I know you can get them without prescription but I never asked directly. Different pharmacies might charge different prices so try to ask an area with many pharmacies like near hospitals. In my Korean pharmacies they are cheaper than US made see and V.
I have been occasionally getting ED during the most inconvenient times, so sometimes the 88 Palpal and 99 Gugu work and doesn't work just like sometimes see and V. In other words I can't tell you perfectly the efficacy of all those supplements.Thank you very much.
MickeyDuck1208
11-23-21, 05:39
It is quite tough to get in there if you are not a local. I got lucky at Castle Anma. I had put a FR here back in Nov 2019. Check out if the place is still open, and try your luck.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1017-Seoul&p=2391377&viewfull=1#post2391377.
Is there any anma which accepted foreigners?
I went to several anma, but they rejected me because I'm foreigner.
I thought it because Covid situation back then, but right now government already lift up some of restrictions and already got vaccinated too.
JeanEspero
11-23-21, 09:41
I visited YDP around 7 pm in September 2 months ago on a weekday and only the be row was open halfway between train station and the RLD street. I might check it out again this weekend.
Guys update if any of you drop by YDP Or Ddongduckccheon DDC this month November 2021 on the weekend and or after 8 pm.
SITREP.
I was passing through and decided to check Youngdeungpo out a week or so after the Nov. 1 lifting of restrictions on bars, restaurants, etc. But an hour after sunset the whole street was dark and all curtains were closed. Didn't mean nobody was home as I saw a couple cleaning ladies (pimps?) knock on glass doors and quickly slip inside. Couldn't see in, though. Definitely no "customers" going in the glass doors.
Also noticed a banner above the street. I got the gist of it and it sounded ominous. Punched it into google translate which spit out "youngdeungpo station downtown station area urban redevelopment. Type: redevelopment project promotion preparatory committee. " Sounds to me like the RLD is on the chopping block. But I haven't been there till recently, so veterans may have been seeing the banner for a while. If so, maybe it's not as ominous as it sounded to me.
Anyway, reaching the west end of the main glass windows street and turning left towards the big street that parallels the subway tracks there was actually one booth lit up and openbut with a fattie / ugly. Got to the main street paralleling the tracks and turned left again heading back toward the subway station. Was a bit surprised to see a couple of (unlit) booths right on the big, main street with providers waiting in them. But so oldie / fattie / ugly that I just kept walking. About halfway back to the major intersection in front of the station, though, there was a small street leading left into the be row, where red lights were on an business was open. But no one was game for me when I walked through. Others may have better luck..
Extremely sorry for the delayed reply!
As far as I know you can get them without prescription but I never asked directly. Different pharmacies might charge different prices so try to ask an area with many pharmacies like near hospitals. In my Korean pharmacies they are cheaper than US made see and V.
I have been occasionally getting ED during the most inconvenient times, so sometimes the 88 Palpal and 99 Gugu work and doesn't work just like sometimes see and V. In other words I can't tell you perfectly the efficacy of all those supplements.Thank you Jean, I walked into a pharmacy and asked the guy for Gugu (he spoke good English), but he didn't know what I meant. I pointed at my junk and did a little motion with my index finger and he said Cialis and I said yes. He sent a lady from behind the counter outside and told me to wait a few minutes, a few minutes later she came back in with the goods (not sure what that was all about, but whatever). 30 K won for four tabs. Only had to make one stop and not shop around. That was easier than I thought. Thanks again, I have a big weekend (Friday Sunday) with my GF on the east coast and want to be at peak performance. Hehe.
JeanEspero
11-25-21, 16:43
I dropped by PTK around 430 pm but seemed to be not happening. All girls looked over 30 with short hair and chubby.
Then I took subway to YDP main row of 8 stalls is definitely open after 8 pm with around 4 to6 hotties and asked for 100,000 or ship man won in Korean but all told me it had be with condom. About 2 or 3 months someone let me do BBFS BBBJ but this time no takers. The warehouse area with the older ladies on the side of the busy road directly in front of the train station parallel to RLD street asked for 60,000 but again only with condom. I couldn't try because it almost always doesn't work with CCD.
I took Mugunghwa train from YDP to PTK then made a few rounds in PTK. There were maybe 3 hotties but refused to talk to me or deal with foreigners after I asked "how much" Eol-Mam-Ni-Ka? And they were quickly taken by customers.
I got home around 12 midnight.
Conclusion. Night time in PTK and YDP is harder to monger and good chance all you can do is window shopping.
I was passing through and decided to check Youngdeungpo out a week or so after the Nov. 1 lifting of restrictions on bars, restaurants, etc. But an hour after sunset the whole street was dark and all curtains were closed. Didn't mean nobody was home as I saw a couple cleaning ladies (pimps?) knock on glass doors and quickly slip inside. Couldn't see in, though. Definitely no "customers" going in the glass doors.
Also noticed a banner above the street. I got the gist of it and it sounded ominous. Punched it into google translate which spit out "youngdeungpo station downtown station area urban redevelopment. Type: redevelopment project promotion preparatory committee. " Sounds to me like the RLD is on the chopping block. But I haven't been there till recently, so veterans may have been seeing the banner for a while. If so, maybe it's not as ominous as it sounded to me.
Anyway, reaching the west end of the main glass windows street and turning left towards the big street that parallels the subway tracks there was actually one booth lit up and openbut with a fattie / ugly. Got to the main street paralleling the tracks and turned left again heading back toward the subway station. Was a bit surprised to see a couple of (unlit) booths right on the big, main street with providers waiting in them. But so oldie / fattie / ugly that I just kept walking..
It is quite tough to get in there if you are not a local. I got lucky at Castle Anma. I had put a FR here back in Nov 2019. Check out if the place is still open, and try your luck.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1017-Seoul&p=2391377&viewfull=1#post2391377.Thank you MickeyDuck. I will try to go there, but can you let me know the exact location? Because I tried to go there but I can't find it.
Thank you.
I dropped by PTK around 430 pm but seemed to be not happening. All girls looked over 30 with short hair and chubby.
Then I took subway to YDP main row of 8 stalls is definitely open after 8 pm with around 4 to6 hotties and asked for 100,000 or ship man won in Korean but all told me it had be with condom. About 2 or 3 months someone let me do BBFS BBBJ but this time no takers. The warehouse area with the older ladies on the side of the busy road directly in front of the train station parallel to RLD street asked for 60,000 but again only with condom. I couldn't try because it almost always doesn't work with CCD.
I took Mugunghwa train from YDP to PTK then made a few rounds in PTK. There were maybe 3 hotties but refused to talk to me or deal with foreigners after I asked "how much" Eol-Mam-Ni-Ka? And they were quickly taken by customers.
I got home around 12 midnight.
Conclusion. Night time in PTK and YDP is harder to monger and good chance all you can do is window shopping.Oh you travelled all the way to seoul and back empty handed?? Shoulda took covered service. Don't expect much in RLDs regarding BBFS. I probably wouldn't either if I were in their shoes seeing a dozen guys a night. But I'm sure there are a few.
JeanEspero
11-26-21, 11:52
It doesn't work at all for me with CD plus the BJ with CD makes me imagine them sucking on tire rubber and my semi hard on gets soft then the CD won't even attach so it becomes an expensive pull or tug. Maybe my junior is allergic to CDS plus it was spoiled by the Philippines adventures. It remembers the great times so well that it doesn't compensate for recent struggles.
I returned to PTK today late morning and late afternoon and it was totally abandoned absolutely no activity no red lights at all.
In between I dropped by Bijeon Sosabel to get some typical shower massage then BJ then covered covertops. It kind of worked because I haven't had it for almost 2 weeks.
Oh you travelled all the way to seoul and back empty handed?? Shoulda took covered service. Don't expect much in RLDs regarding BBFS. I probably wouldn't either if I were in their shoes seeing a dozen guys a night. But I'm sure there are a few.
He sent a lady from behind the counter outside and told me to wait a few minutes, a few minutes later she came back in with the goods (not sure what that was all about,..That pharmacy didn't carry the drug in its formulary but a nearby pharmacy did. So the lady went to that one, made the purchase on your behalf, and then sold it to you at a markup.
It doesn't work at all for me with CD plus the BJ with CD makes me imagine them sucking on tire rubber and my semi hard on gets soft then the CD won't even attach so it becomes an expensive pull or tug. Maybe my junior is allergic to CDS plus it was spoiled by the Philippines adventures. It remembers the great times so well that it doesn't compensate for recent struggles.
I returned to PTK today late morning and late afternoon and it was totally abandoned absolutely no activity no red lights at all.
In between I dropped by Bijeon Sosabel to get some typical shower massage then BJ then covered covertops. It kind of worked because I haven't had it for almost 2 weeks.I see.
What do you mean by covertops? You mentioned you arent using condoms.
Penetrador
11-27-21, 12:39
It doesn't work at all for me with CD plus the BJ with CD makes me imagine them sucking on tire rubber and my semi hard on gets soft then the CD won't even attach so it becomes an expensive pull or tug. Maybe my junior is allergic to CDS plus it was spoiled by the Philippines adventures. It remembers the great times so well that it doesn't compensate for recent struggles.
I returned to PTK today late morning and late afternoon and it was totally abandoned absolutely no activity no red lights at all.
In between I dropped by Bijeon Sosabel to get some typical shower massage then BJ then covered covertops. It kind of worked because I haven't had it for almost 2 weeks.May I ask what is sosabel? I m open to all the options in Korea.
JeanEspero
11-28-21, 01:52
I meant Covered FS there but becomes pull tug.
From Pyeongtaek Station take bus 10 to get off at CGV Bijeon Sosa or you can cross the street from RLD then take bus 888 B.
I see.
What do you mean by covertops? You mentioned you arent using condoms.
JeanEspero
11-28-21, 01:59
I meant Covered FS (not covertop) there but becomes pull tug.
From Pyeongtaek Station take bus 10 to get off at CGV Bijeon Sosa or you can cross the street from RLD then take bus 888 B.
I used to quickly view RLD then bus to Bijeon CGV if RLD doesn't offer the right individual menu choices. Lately RLD is closed on some days.
May I ask what is sosabel? I m open to all the options in Korea.
That pharmacy didn't carry the drug in its formulary but a nearby pharmacy did. So the lady went to that one, made the purchase on your behalf, and then sold it to you at a markup.In the location I went to there wasn't a pharmacy anywhere near there and she was only gone for a few minutes. The place was at a roadside market area along a major roadway, but there is sex shop about 150 M from there, I was going to go there next if they said no. Maybe she went there, I should try there next time. LOL.
Good point Bro Thanks.
Was in Itaewon at night for the first time in years. Tried to see Candy down at Tiffany Bar, as she is my go-to for a great time GFE. However, she was indisposed and ventured up the hill. Most of the old places are boarded up or already had new modern Korean-centric bars going. However, up the right side next to Evergreen I saw a girl with tits bigger than my head standing in the door near the top of the hill.
Recognized her as Cherrie, a slightly plump lady with enormous jugs who I had sampled many times in years past. Worked out a BBBJ and asked her to go upstairs instead of her room across the street. She is a damn pro, as can be expected, but I felt proud that I held out for about 10-12 minutes of sloppy wet BJ action with her self-initiating lots of ball-licking, rimming, and titfucking action in that short time. Pulled out and finished all over those giant juggs of her and she was decent enough to clean me up orally. The tits alone are worth it, and she has a friendly personality and eager to please. Probably wouldn't be a bad idea to get her to double team ya with Candy. Damn. I think I need to make another trip up there before Christmas.
Those of you who frequent Thai spots. Anyone else noticing a decline in quality? Lot of fat, chubby, older and ugly women on the scene lately. Unfortunately a lot of these shops don't give you the option of choosing your girl.
Found a place that offered FS for 100 after the massage. Girl was very chubby but somehow I willed myself to do it. Figured it was a fluke and I'll try again in hopes of the lean Thai spinner type I'm used to seeing in this line of work. This time I got an even fatter chick. The massage was good because of her weight and mass but when she asked if I wanted service I swiftly declined.
Found another place while on a trip 2 hours away. Landed another chubster who quoted me 100 for HJ with no touching. Hard no.
Recently found a good outcall Thai place. They don't show pictures or allow me to choose girl but they seemed confident about their girls in the ad. They sent me a magnificent spinner and set the bar high. Beautiful, loved to cuddle and extremely tight. She seemed older than the usual Thai outcall girls. Probably at least 35 but passing for 25. We exchanged Lines and I got her name. I wanted to repeat so weeks later I requested her by name but the she wasn't available. Probably because it was around 3 am. So I figured I'll try any random chick they send in hopes she would be another stunner. Boy was I wrong. This one was ugly, chubby and gave a very weak massage. She asked if I wanted service and I decided maybe I will TRY FS but talked her down in price. So goes to wash up then undresses. With clothes off she looked absolutely horrible. Big pot belly, weird skin coloring, no hips or redeeming qualities. I had to tell her "nevermind" I'll just do HJ. She put clothes back on and gave me a very poor HJ. Took me 20 to finish. Had to close my eyes and imagine one of my favorites was taking care of me.
There must be an embargo on pretty Thais or my luck is shit. Will just stick with my usual outcall place I've been seeing for years. They show pictures and never give me issues.
Hi friends,
First time posting here but I've been mongering for a bit and looking for someone to go to hyugetels with in Seoul.
I understand that sometimes hyugetels don't allow foreigners but I think I'll be able to smooth talk our way into one (if you are a foreigner).
Do be aware though that they might also say no out of their discretion.
My requirements for you:
- hygienic (I don't want to get kicked out).
- polite ( same as above).
- able to pay for your share ( same again + don't want to get beat up LOL).
- in Seoul.
As for myself I speak both fluent English and Korean and am Korean.
DM me and I'll post updates on this forum as well on how things go Cheers.
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Hi,
Can anyone local tell me what's become of this bar?
Every time I pop over to that neighborhood it's always closed.
I was in there the weekend before COVID lockdown was announced early 2020.
I received fantastic GFE service from a slim brown-haired girl I've been hoping to find again.
ISimply the best.
I remember that a COVID breakout had been traced to a bar in the area, wondered if it had been that bar and if they were forced to close?
Any updates appreciated.
Hi friends,
DM me and I'll post updates on this forum as well on how things go Cheers.I am very interested but you need to pay for a membership or to contribute a few more posts to be able to receive DMs.
Club Nymph update?
Can anyone local tell me what's become of this bar?
The one in Itaewon? I think there's only one girl there now and she opens after 7 or 8 from what I remember.
If you see the light try pulling the handle she'll probably open if she's not with someone else.
I am very interested but you need to pay for a membership or to contribute a few more posts to be able to receive DMs.Oh I see and my bad! First time posting and did not know that DM's required more of a membership / active status.
Would you guys be interested in a guide explaining the different services, etiquette, how to contact, etc offered in Korea?
Ranging from kunma / massages, kiss bang / lip cafes, hyugetels, officetels, anmas?
KoreanChinese
12-19-21, 15:12
Oh I see and my bad! First time posting and did not know that DM's required more of a membership / active status.
Would you guys be interested in a guide explaining the different services, etiquette, how to contact, etc offered in Korea?
Ranging from kunma / massages, kiss bang / lip cafes, hyugetels, officetels, anmas?I'd be down to go with you. But not sure how I can contact you. I been a a lurker here for years haha.
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I would be down to go places with you and even pay for your session.
Sorry I have to change my previous opstar comment here in ISG.
I found that opstar has long comments about various places written in Korean when you click on hugi and short thumbs up comments when you click on daetgeul. So you can use translate. google.com I guess.
I am also guessing that foreigners might have a different or sometimes same experience then Koreans who write the comments.
There are too many options to choose from when looking at opstar and it gets overwhelming.Hey friend,
I am trying to find more reviews on the places / girls in Seoul and so interested to check this opstar site you are talking about here. What should be my google search keywords here to find that website?
Thanks.
Would you guys be interested in a guide explaining the different services, etiquette, how to contact, etc offered in Korea?
Ranging from kunma / massages, kiss bang / lip cafes, hyugetels, officetels, anmas?What I need is a Korean friend / guide that would help me get in and get serviced by a provider that is young and pretty.
Because it's impossible even with the knowledge to access most places without a Korean vouching for us.
Was in Itaewon at night for the first time in years. Tried to see Candy down at Tiffany Bar, as she is my go-to for a great time GFE. However, she was indisposed and ventured up the hill. Most of the old places are boarded up or already had new modern Korean-centric bars going. However, up the right side next to Evergreen I saw a girl with tits bigger than my head standing in the door near the top of the hill.
Recognized her as Cherrie, a slightly plump lady with enormous jugs who I had sampled many times in years past. Worked out a BBBJ and asked her to go upstairs instead of her room across the street. She is a damn pro, as can be expected, but I felt proud that I held out for about 10-12 minutes of sloppy wet BJ action with her self-initiating lots of ball-licking, rimming, and titfucking action in that short time. Pulled out and finished all over those giant juggs of her and she was decent enough to clean me up orally. The tits alone are worth it, and she has a friendly personality and eager to please. Probably wouldn't be a bad idea to get her to double team ya with Candy. Damn. I think I need to make another trip up there before Christmas.Cherry's been around for many years now- probably at least 10, maybe more. I've wrote about previous experiences a few years back. When she started working there first, she wasn't fat and had big tits and nice face, but not so much now.
Bean started working there in 2005 or 2006, the first time I met her. Last time I was there in December 2019, she started putting weight on and hadn't triimmed up, so it was a bit of a turn off. Kay still provided great GFE and has huge tits, so I'm looking forward to seeing her again.
Just about every girl on the hill has been there at least ten years. Occasionally a new one may stumble in, but the turf's protected and competition 'stiff', so they don't stay long.
I'll be there in April, so hoping there won't be any lockdown restrictions or silliness. Do the girls wear masks all the time now? It's that way here in the States, so it's also a bit of a turn off, but tolerable.
Hi friends,
First time posting here but I've been mongering for a bit and looking for someone to go to hyugetels with in Seoul.
I understand that sometimes hyugetels don't allow foreigners but I think I'll be able to smooth talk our way into one (if you are a foreigner).
Do be aware though that they might also say no out of their discretion.
My requirements for you:
- hygienic (I don't want to get kicked out).
- polite ( same as above).
- able to pay for your share ( same again + don't want to get beat up LOL).
- in Seoul.
As for myself I speak both fluent English and Korean and am Korean.
DM me and I'll post updates on this forum as well on how things go Cheers.Would be great if I could come along with you to a couple of specific hyugetels that I have been wanting to go to.
I definitely check off all your requirements. Let's meet up sometime?
KoreanChinese
12-21-21, 03:56
Would be great if I could come along with you to a couple of specific hyugetels that I have been wanting to go to.
I definitely check off all your requirements. Let's meet up sometime?Y'all want to meet up and go to room salons together?
But I don't think he's going to come back.
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Hey friend,
I am trying to find more reviews on the places / girls in Seoul and so interested to check this opstar site you are talking about here. What should be my google search keywords here to find that website?
Thanks.It's now.
https://opgani6.com/ If it doesn't work the change the number 6 to 7 and so on. Use Chrome to translate the page and make an account.
KoreanChinese
12-23-21, 14:01
It's now.
https://opgani6.com/ If it doesn't work the change the number 6 to 7 and so on. Use Chrome to translate the page and make an account.Do they take Asian foreigners?
Nother Monger
12-26-21, 01:55
Do they take Asian foreigners?That site is just an a place for advertisements. Each establishment / business (if you want to call it that.) is different. You'll need to talk to them (phone call) and if you don't sound native they'll probably ask you about it and may ask the girl if she will see you. My advice would be just be upfront and ask or you may end up getting denied at the last minute.
Hi there!
It's a shame that I can't find a way to communicate with other members here / meet up as I don't have a membership and a lot of members here don't either. And to my understanding both parties need a membership to message?
If anyone has a suggestion or any idea, please do let me know.
In other news, I've been slowly writing up a guide on the different types of services offered so will post that soon!
And to answer some previous comments:
"Do they take Asian foreigners?" - They most likely will not unless you speak fluent Korean. But even if, you might need another Korean to vouch for you.
"Op sites" - These sites change very frequently and are all in Korean. You will need to create an account and call with a cell phone number (no vpn / hidden numbers, phone booth, etc). Another great site is bamtteok1.
"Y'all want to meet up and go to room salons together?" - And we actually get a slight discount if we go together with friends and its not as uncommon as you might think haha.
If you guys have any further questions on the scene, feel free to ask away and will reply when I have time.
Hi there!
It's a shame that I can't find a way to communicate with other members here / meet up as I don't have a membership and a lot of members here don't either. And to my understanding both parties need a membership to message?
If anyone has a suggestion or any idea, please do let me know.
In other news, I've been slowly writing up a guide on the different types of services offered so will post that soon!
And to answer some previous comments:
"Do they take Asian foreigners?" - They most likely will not unless you speak fluent Korean. But even if, you might need another Korean to vouch for you.
"Op sites" - These sites change very frequently and are all in Korean. You will need to create an account and call with a cell phone number (no vpn / hidden numbers, phone booth, etc). Another great site is bamtteok1.
"Y'all want to meet up and go to room salons together?" - And we actually get a slight discount if we go together with friends and its not as uncommon as you might think haha.
If you guys have any further questions on the scene, feel free to ask away and will reply when I have time.No shame to join as a member and enjoy DM access. I don't believe ISG is a non-profit organization. Even if it was, non-profits rely on contributions and or government funding.
No shame to join as a member and enjoy DM access. I don't believe ISG is a non-profit organization. Even if it was, non-profits rely on contributions and or government funding.Exactly and if you really don't want to pay you can share some knowledge until your get to Senior level.
Especially if you have good contacts with establishments.
You might also know more than us about government plans and rumors etc.
Exactly and if you really don't want to pay you can share some knowledge until your get to Senior level.
Especially if you have good contacts with establishments.
You might also know more than us about government plans and rumors etc.Out of curiosity, what has everyone's experience been with mongering in Korea?
Is it mostly RDL in Itaewon? (Which is nearly dead).
Massages?
Don't know of any concrete rumors but a lot of establishments recently require QR code as well as a vaccination pass upon entry so to fit with government guidelines.
Do take my guide with a grain of salt though as I am Korean and your mileage may vary depending on how well spoken you are in Korean as well as how much damages you are willing to put down.
First things first here are the necessary requirements for mongering:
1. Valid and active phone number (no hidden numbers, internet, phone booths, etc).
2. Vaccination QR code (government has been cracking down on establishments that do not trace for covid).
3. Ability to speak a decent amount of Korean for making reservations.
Let's break down the establishments (by price).
With higher prices of course comes better quality girls as well as appearances.
Kiss Bang .
Kiss bangs are for making out as well as conversations. Some allow tops to come off with some touching but that's about it.
Your mileage may vary depending on how well you can sweet talk and how strict the establishments are.
DO NOT ASK OR TRY FOR FULL SERVICE HERE. You risk getting kicked out, beat up, and black listed.
Girls: Early 20's, often local college students.
Damages: Around $50 for 30 min.
<Lip Cafe .
Lip cafes are similar to kiss bangs but for blow jobs and usually allow both top / bottom to come off with mutual touching / play depending on the establishment.
A great place to visit if you want a quick release.
Girls: Early 20's and may not be the most attractive but they will definitely be skilled.
Damages: $50 for one shot 15 minutes.
<Kunma / Massages .
Kunma / Massages provide swedish / aroma massages with a happy ending. The happy ending is usually restricted to handjobs but YMMV.
Girls: Girls here are often from foreign countries such as Thailand / Laos / Philippines / Etc. They are probably not the most attractive women in the world. Quality differs largely depending on the establishment.
Damages: $50-$60 for a one hour massage. HJ tips cost an additional $30. BJ tips should be around $50. Full service will be $100.
<Hyugetel.
Hyugetels are establishments that offer full service options at rooms or small apartments. The quality of the rooms / apartments may not be nice at times. Think of it as a place for a quick fuck.
Girls: Girls here range from 20's - 30's. Looks vary depending on the location and are also often from foreign countries. Women here are below the OP standard of looks for sure though there are quite a few who are very attractive.
Damages: Starting at $80 for a one shot 30 minute course. Two shot / unlimited shot options are also available as well as no condom and anal options. Stocking and dildo services are available as well.
<Anma.
Anma's are massage parlors similar to kunma's but higher in quality of massages, service, and girls.
Full service options are provided here as well as amazing GFE. These girls will make you feel like you're in a japanese adult video. Yes, this also does mean that some provide nuru massages / soap massages, etc.
A lot of these are themed to be clubs or spas where you can pick your girls.
These establishments may also require additional proof of verification to ensure that you are not the police / blacklisted / can be trusted.
Girls: Girls here are usually top of the 1% in terms of looks and quality. La creme de la creme.
Damages: $200 for a one shot hour course. With additional costs for longer sessions, more shots, no condoms, anal, stocking, threesome, etc.
<Officietels (OPs) .
OP's are small but nice luxury offices / apartments rented out for full services options.
These establishments may also require additional proof of verification to ensure that you are not the police / blacklisted / can be trusted.
Girls: Girls here are also the top 1% in terms of looks. For OP's I have found that there are more American / European girl options as well. These ladies are all QUALITY in terms of. Well. Everything.
Damages: With quality comes price, and damages range around $200 for a one shot hour course. With additional costs for longer sessions, more shots, no condoms, anal, stocking, threesome, etc.
<FAQs .
"What's the difference between Anma and OP then?" - Main difference is that Anma provides a sexual massage and play while OP is more focused on sex.
"What do you mean by 1% looks for Anma / OP girls?" - I mean that they are often models / rising celebrities status gorgeous with the skills to match. 11/10.
"How do I find these establishemnts?" - Online. Sites such as bamtteok / opggani / opstar.
"Do they accept foreigners" - Most likely no, but if you have a buddy that speaks korean then possibly yes.
"I'm worried about COVID, are these places safe?" - Depends on the establishment but a lot of places now offer rapid corona testing kits, sanitize their facilities multiple times a day, and monitor temperature.
Hope this guide provided a quick update on the status of mongering in Korea.
Feel free to ask any questions as well and I'll try to get back to you all ASAP.
Out of curiosity, what has everyone's experience been with mongering in Korea?
Is it mostly RDL in Itaewon? (Which is nearly dead).
Massages?
Don't know of any concrete rumors but a lot of establishments recently require QR code as well as a vaccination pass upon entry so to fit with government guidelines.I am preparing for my first trip and not interested to visit any RDL. Doing internet search and reading articles I found only below sites which cater to foreigners. Not sure if anyone here has any experience with any of them. So far it seems it is quite hard to monger here as a foreigner.
https://modelineseoul.wixsite.com/beautygirlsinseoul/strip-salon
http://www.seoulescort8.com/strip-salon.html
https://www.luxseoulescorts1.com/
https://massagerepublic.com/female-escorts-in-seoul
Penetrador
12-28-21, 12:37
Out of curiosity, what has everyone's experience been with mongering in Korea?
Is it mostly RDL in Itaewon? (Which is nearly dead).
Massages?
Don't know of any concrete rumors but a lot of establishments recently require QR code as well as a vaccination pass upon entry so to fit with government guidelines.Have you gone to Yengdp red light any info updates?
RubberDuckyBos
12-29-21, 01:27
It's now.
https://opgani6.com/ If it doesn't work the change the number 6 to 7 and so on. Use Chrome to translate the page and make an account.Ty, I lost track of the link changes a while back! How do you know when they change the url format (e. G. From opstar to opgani to whatever is next)?
Ty, I lost track of the link changes a while back! How do you know when they change the url format (e. G. From opstar to opgani to whatever is next)?You really can't know until you check and the site is down, just do a simple google search of the site once again as stated before or add an extra number to the end. For example if it was opstar1, next site will most likely be opstar2 or opstar3.
Have you gone to Yengdp red light any info updates?Sorry, I'm not very familiar with RLDs in Korea. Ever since the pandemic though I've heard that most are being shutdown from lack of business or moved out as a part of gentrification or the government's clean up.
Most mongering info and establishments in Korea have actually moved online to the sites mentioned before.
It's just much safer and more low key for both the establishments and customers involved.
I am preparing for my first trip and not interested to visit any RDL. Doing internet search and reading articles I found only below sites which cater to foreigners. Not sure if anyone here has any experience with any of them. So far it seems it is quite hard to monger here as a foreigner.
https://modelineseoul.wixsite.com/beautygirlsinseoul/strip-salon
http://www.seoulescort8.com/strip-salon.html
https://www.luxseoulescorts1.com/
https://massagerepublic.com/female-escorts-in-seoulCannot vouch for any of these sites except massage republic (do check the reviews and the accounts that wrote the reviews to confirm that they are somewhat legit).
As for the other escort service providers, you will sadly be paying a premium.
I never realized until now but beginning to understand that mongering for foreigners in Korea is very tough compared to other countries.
Out of curiosity, what has everyone's experience been with mongering in Korea?
Is it mostly RDL in Itaewon? (Which is nearly dead).
Massages?
RLD, thai massage, kunma, OP with Russian, Lip. No anma or room salon.
Tried but couldn't get in.
Honestly I just want to become a regular at a good Lip place LOL.
I am preparing for my first trip and not interested to visit any RDL. Doing internet search and reading articles I found only below sites which cater to foreigners. Not sure if anyone here has any experience with any of them. So far it seems it is quite hard to monger here as a foreigner.
I wouldn't get my hopes up for any of those options.
Fake pictures and way overpriced.
If you just want to do it for posterity then go ahead but you've been warned.
RainingMeat
12-29-21, 12:09
What's hooker hill like now that there's a 9 pm curfew? Where's the best place for street meat?
I'd be willing to go early.
KoreanChinese
12-30-21, 04:07
Do take my guide with a grain of salt though as I am Korean and your mileage may vary depending on how well spoken you are in Korean as well as how much damages you are willing to put down.
First things first here are the necessary requirements for mongering:
1. Valid and active phone number (no hidden numbers, internet, phone booths, etc).
2. Vaccination QR code (government has been cracking down on establishments that do not trace for covid).
3. Ability to speak a decent amount of Korean for making reservations.
Let's break down the establishments (by price)..Good guide. There is also one similar on Reddit.
I find the best places to go are room salons (KTV), kiss bangs, officetel and an ma.
But it's pretty much most of it is off limits to foreigners. If you don't look Asian and speak Korean. Your experience will be very poor in Ymmv sense.
I had made friends in Korea and they bought to room salons and the girls were insanely hot. They vouched me for some officetel ad well.
The key to mongering in Korea is find a Korean native or local, willing to help you in exchange for money or friendship.
Otherwise your just stuck with sub par girls from rdl and kiss bangs places.
Speaking Korean helps a lot especially if your a foreigner. Bonus if your Asian looking. But some officetel or an ma.
Won't take you no matter what.
KoreanChinese
12-30-21, 04:09
RLD, thai massage, kunma, OP with Russian, Lip. No anma or room salon.
Tried but couldn't get in.
Honestly I just want to become a regular at a good Lip place LOL.There is a few near gangnam station and jamsil.
Station. I go quite a lot and offer 50,000- 100,000 for full BBFS, most.
Of the girls take it LOL.
There is a few near gangnam station and jamsil.
Station. I go quite a lot and offer 50,000- 100,000 for full BBFS, most.
Of the girls take it LOL.50 to 100 k on top of the massage fee?
Do take my guide with a grain of salt though as I am Korean and your mileage may vary depending on how well spoken you are in Korean as well as how much damages you are willing to put down.
First things first here are the necessary requirements for mongering:
1. Valid and active phone number (no hidden numbers, internet, phone booths, etc).
2. Vaccination QR code (government has been cracking down on establishments that do not trace for covid).
I've been pretty consistently going to gunma / massage places throughout the past 2 years and I've never QR coded at any of them. Sometimes the "legit" looking thai places will want you to write down your info on a log, but you can easily write a fake number or whatever if you're worried. However, as he stated above, without a phone number you can't contact anyone off opgani or any of the other sites, so that is for sure essential.
KoreanChinese
12-30-21, 18:46
50 to 100 k on top of the massage fee?Yeah on top of the fee. Don't get much massages in kiss bangs. Just fondling, kissing and sex.
Yeah on top of the fee. Don't get much massages in kiss bangs. Just fondling, kissing and sex.I see.
Since kiss bangs are generally college aged girls and located around universities, are most customers under 30 or do older korean men also go there?? Just wondering if that type of sex business only caters to young guys? Thanks.
Good guide. There is also one similar on Reddit.
I find the best places to go are room salons (KTV), kiss bangs, officetel and an ma.
But it's pretty much most of it is off limits to foreigners. If you don't look Asian and speak Korean. Your experience will be very poor in Ymmv sense.
I had made friends in Korea and they bought to room salons and the girls were insanely hot. They vouched me for some officetel ad well.
The key to mongering in Korea is find a Korean native or local, willing to help you in exchange for money or friendship.
Otherwise your just stuck with sub par girls from rdl and kiss bangs places.
Speaking Korean helps a lot especially if your a foreigner. Bonus if your Asian looking. But some officetel or an ma.
Won't take you no matter what.Wish I could message you brother so we could go mongering in 2022!
I do fell that that gangnam is THE SPOT to be for "mongering online" as that's where most finance businesses are located anyway.
I see.
Since kiss bangs are generally college aged girls and located around universities, are most customers under 30 or do older korean men also go there?? Just wondering if that type of sex business only caters to young guys? Thanks.Customers will range anywhere from 20's - 60's there's really no set age limit. The business does not cater to just younger guys. Anyone one with money is open for business.
There is a few near gangnam station and jamsil.
Station. I go quite a lot and offer 50,000- 100,000 for full BBFS, most.
Of the girls take it LOL.Oh wow 50,000 seems to be on the extreme low balling range for BBFS. Good for you for finding out such a spot and smooth talking your way through.
Actually personally not a fan of bb due to health concerns but to each its own!
Wishing everyone a wonderful 2022 and may you all be blessed with the best services available!
What type of establishments / fantasy are you guys hoping to make come true in 2022?
Do they take Asian foreigners?Some do, I just send them a text and ask them.
SlapStickFun01
01-02-22, 05:46
Ventured out late last night to check it out. Was called into a shop by a big tittied girl named Candy. Wanted 200 for BBFS lasting 20 minutes and 1 shot. Yea didn't go for it bought her a drink for 30 just to talk asked her if she really gets that. She said that's what everyone has agreed to charge. Asked her if she had any takers and she said 1 the whole night. Fucking way over priced.
KoreanChinese
01-02-22, 17:27
Some do, I just send them a text and ask them.Are the girls local Koreans.
Though?
Or are they the Russians, Thai ones?
KoreanChinese
01-02-22, 17:47
Wish I could message you brother so we could go mongering in 2022!
I do fell that that gangnam is THE SPOT to be for "mongering online" as that's where most finance businesses are located anyway.If you're serious about and you're a frequent monger. I'll send the $25 btc each to the admin to activate our accounts for dm.
I'm a Korean sex addict, not going to lie LOL.
I love Korean girls. It is my hobby to have sex with new ones every day.
If you're serious about and you're a frequent monger. I'll send the $25 btc each to the admin to activate our accounts for dm.
I'm a Korean sex addict, not going to lie LOL.
I love Korean girls. It is my hobby to have sex with new ones every day.Problem is banging a regular Korean girl not in the sex industry. A lot are lame in bed. Just lying there and moaning LOL. No passion.
Oh wow 50,000 seems to be on the extreme low balling range for BBFS. Good for you for finding out such a spot and smooth talking your way through.
Actually personally not a fan of bb due to health concerns but to each its own!50-70 k is the going rate at RLDs if you look and speak like a local. Miari goes for as low as 30-40 k during the day if you're a local, one of my regular mamasans told me this but wouldn't give me a discount past 60 k daytime and 70-80 k night time.
Ventured out late last night to check it out. Was called into a shop by a big tittied girl named Candy. Wanted 200 for BBFS lasting 20 minutes and 1 shot. Yea didn't go for it bought her a drink for 30 just to talk asked her if she really gets that. She said that's what everyone has agreed to charge. Asked her if she had any takers and she said 1 the whole night. Fucking way over priced.Definitely not worth it, fuck that! I think in conclusion its safe to say that that Itaewon RDL is dead?
If you're serious about and you're a frequent monger. I'll send the $25 btc each to the admin to activate our accounts for dm.
I'm a Korean sex addict, not going to lie LOL.
I love Korean girls. It is my hobby to have sex with new ones every day.Hey brother! I'm actually really close to hitting 30 posts which would make me a senior member I believe! Now its up to you to get your posts up as well haha and we'll be able to DM one another.
Problem is banging a regular Korean girl not in the sex industry. A lot are lame in bed. Just lying there and moaning LOL. No passion.I've had amazing luck with tinder / bumble and just being honest with my intentions! Though the match rate is low, those that do match we usually end up on a fun date or two.
But I do agree though that a lot of korean korean girls will just lie down like a dead fish and not move so I just take the initiative to toss them and position them around myself.
50-70 k is the going rate at RLDs if you look and speak like a local. Miari goes for as low as 30-40 k during the day if you're a local, one of my regular mamasans told me this but wouldn't give me a discount past 60 k daytime and 70-80 k night time.Oooh gotcha, thanks for this piece of information. Knowledge is power my friend.
I guess its the same for establishments that advertise mongering online, weekdays / in the mornings tend to be a bit cheaper or have more discount options.
Ventured out late last night to check it out. Was called into a shop by a big tittied girl named Candy. Wanted 200 for BBFS lasting 20 minutes and 1 shot. Yea didn't go for it bought her a drink for 30 just to talk asked her if she really gets that. She said that's what everyone has agreed to charge. Asked her if she had any takers and she said 1 the whole night. Fucking way over priced.LOL heard the same line when one of the providers said BJs were at least 100 and "everyone" agreed to charge that.
Got one for 60 next door. That was last year— well 2020 actually.
I honestly don't understand The Hill. I'd love to screw Bean in the ass though haha.
I've had amazing luck with tinder / bumble and just being honest with my intentions! Though the match rate is low, those that do match we usually end up on a fun date or two.
Same on Tinder but it's too much effort. Craigslist was okay until they started taking down posts like lightning.
Seeking Arrangement is filled with (way too) overpriced ordinary girls.
Slide in those DMs when you can LOL.
RubberDuckyBos
01-05-22, 00:20
On these OP sites, is there anywhere I can find a basic guide for terminology? I can speak / read normal Korean, but all these specific terms and abbreviations and stuff might as well be a completely different language.
Had some free time yesterday before dinner and went online to look for a hyugetel in Gangnam.
Getting There:
Called and set an appointment to see a girl for a 70 minute two shot course. Since it was my first time visiting this establishment, I had to verify by sending a photo of my business card.
Confirmed within minutes then was given the address and told to call once I arrived.
Arrived at the location and called and was given a room number at a officetel for me to enter.
Service:
Came to see "Bori" a 28 years old gorgeous thai girl with a petite frame and massive the cups (plastic surgery).
She greeted me with a warm smile and gave me some water / juice as we both got undressed.
Did some small talk then we got undressed and she took me into her shower.
We both brushed our teeth and after she washed me thoroughly in the shower.
She then used mouthwash to cleanse herself once again and then promptly gave me a blow job for a minty and refreshing oral.
Went to to the bed where she massaged my balls and cock for a few minutes before she gave me a BJ.
I was on top for the first shot where I pounded her in missionary before I finished. She was surprisingly very tight and her reactions were great as well.
She washed me up with a wet towel and in the down time I played and teased her tits / pussy some more before getting hard and going for round 2.
This time she was on top and rode me nice and hard until I finished once again.
She washed me up once again with a wet towel then cleaned me in the shower before we said good bye.
Conclusion:
Service was not rushed at all with a lot of GFE. Was a little nervous going to a new establishment but overall she made me feel comfortable and would come again.
She was enthusiastic and friendly and made sure to make me feel comfortable as well. Very playful and teasing as well.
I asked if her establishment took foreigners but her boss did not allow it but she did tell me that other hyugetels nearby did.
Damages were 14 manwon for 2 shot. I got a manwon discount since it was my first time visiting.
On these OP sites, is there anywhere I can find a basic guide for terminology? I can speak / read normal Korean, but all these specific terms and abbreviations and stuff might as well be a completely different language.Hmm would it be possible for you to copy and paste to this forum so I can translate for you?
Some common terms and abbreviations:
ㅇ12609; - kissing.
ㅂ12616;- pussy.
ㅇ12601;- oral.
장 - means an amount of paper, which in slang means cash. So 15장 would be 15 manwon.
핸54540; - handjob.
샷 - shot, means cumming. 2샷 course would mean a course where you can cum twice.
KoreanChinese
01-05-22, 16:51
Had some free time yesterday before dinner and went online to look for a hyugetel in Gangnam.
Getting There:
Called and set an appointment to see a girl for a 70 minute two shot course. Since it was my first time visiting this establishment, I had to verify by sending a photo of my business card.
Confirmed within minutes then was given the address and told to call once I arrived.
Arrived at the location and called and was given a room number at a officetel for me to enter.
Service:
Came to see "Bori" a 28 years old gorgeous thai girl with a petite frame and massive the cups (plastic surgery).
She greeted me with a warm smile and gave me some water / juice as we both got undressed.
Did some small talk then we got undressed and she took me into her shower.
We both brushed our teeth and after she washed me thoroughly in the shower.Sounds good! Any CIP option? I DM some girls on Instagram and met up with one, took her to a motel in Gangnam and did the deed but way to much work.
Sounds good! Any CIP option? I DM some girls on Instagram and met up with one, took her to a motel in Gangnam and did the deed but way to much work.Do you mean too many messages back and forth before she accepted your offer?
SlapStickFun01
01-06-22, 04:48
50-70 k is the going rate at RLDs if you look and speak like a local. Miari goes for as low as 30-40 k during the day if you're a local, one of my regular mamasans told me this but wouldn't give me a discount past 60 k daytime and 70-80 k night time.I have always wondered about Mari and what time they open during the day.
SlapStickFun01
01-06-22, 04:50
LOL heard the same line when one of the providers said BJs were at least 100 and "everyone" agreed to charge that.
Got one for 60 next door. That was last year well 2020 actually.
I honestly don't understand The Hill. I'd love to screw Bean in the ass though haha.It just seems like they are used to drunk Americans thinking to much with their dicks. Hell if she was super hot "maybe" but chubby and not to friendly. Nope.
Hmm a BJ for 60. Covered or raw?
Sounds good! Any CIP option? I DM some girls on Instagram and met up with one, took her to a motel in Gangnam and did the deed but way to much work.Who are these girls on Instagram? Working girls or just models?
Sounds good! Any CIP option? I DM some girls on Instagram and met up with one, took her to a motel in Gangnam and did the deed but way to much work.Who are these girls are Instagram? Working girls or models?
KoreanChinese
01-06-22, 10:14
Do you mean too many messages back and forth before she accepted your offer?Right and also like they don't respond right away. Some don't even respond at all.
Obviously. But once I get their kakao, they are more comfortable to talk. Most of.
Them that reply back, I suspect they work at a room salon or something.
One girl I msged, accepted my 500,000 offer with 200,000 for sec with no condom after a bit of taking.
The long part is also gaming them and taking them to dinner etc. Some you do get lucky.
I found that if you look for the girls in city like Daegu or Ilsan, are more likely to respond and meet. But take longer to set up.
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Sounds good! Any CIP option? I DM some girls on Instagram and met up with one, took her to a motel in Gangnam and did the deed but way to much work.How do you find them on insta?
Right and also like they don't respond right away. Some don't even respond at all.
Obviously. But once I get their kakao, they are more comfortable to talk. Most of.
Them that reply back, I suspect they work at a room salon or something.
One girl I msged, accepted my 500,000 offer with 200,000 for sec with no condom after a bit of taking.
The long part is also gaming them and taking them to dinner etc. Some you do get lucky.
I found that if you look for the girls in city like Daegu or Ilsan, are more likely to respond and meet. But take longer to set up.
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Secondly. Why are you offering crazy prices?
KoreanChinese
01-07-22, 03:31
What? You had to still try and convince her to meet even after offering 700000 won?? Lmfao what a joke.
Secondly. Why are you offering crazy prices?Yeah some take convincing especially if they are far away. If you low ball, they aren't going to be to impressed. So if I offer them more money as a way of paying for their taxi rides, certain requests (no condom) and they are more inclined to meet and also give them the idea of future sponsorship. To that end, the more you are generous (rich in sense), good pics on Instagram, better responses and better luck. You definitely don't want to offer an ma prices to them LOL. Is it economical. Of course not. It just another method of f'ing. You can definitely get the same type of girls in officetel with better pricing or go to clubs and Pick girls up. But some of the Instagram girls are really hot. If I can DM one day, I can show you some messages and pics. Also using location and popular places to find some girls LOL. Note to admin. Sorry I'm trying to format my posts because if I continuously type, it seem like to was going all the way to the left of the screen into one major sentence before it "return" I was trying to organize my sentences into section. Right now I just wrote without hitting return once, hope that works better.
KoreanChinese
01-07-22, 03:38
How do you find them on insta?If you search by location in Instagram, type popular clubs, locations and malls, you can find a lot. Start several liking their pics and see if they like back. Once they do, follow them and send a friendly message. You want to find girls with less followers, not those influencers kinds. Under 2000 followers (more or less) worked best for me.
Once you follow enough, Instagram will inherently suggest the similar girls. You also check their followings and follow those. If they follow a lot of guys, it's a good sign. As the algorithm builds on your account, you will get more similar girls. It's a lot of work, it's easier just go to officetel or an ma and get it over with, especially if you're not very good looking or on a budget. But if you have time and don't mind chatting with some girls then sure.
PattySmitty88
01-07-22, 05:50
I had some matches on meeeff and they give me a kakao ID. Then they message me only in hungul, no English. Saying meet for 3 hrs for 1.5 roses. They say send picture of hotel key tell room number and hotel name. Are these scams? Donut eaters? Or legit?
Any advice or recommendations for meeting outcall girls? Please PM with any recommendations. Thanks.
I did quite a bit of mongering in Hawaii, so let me know if you need any advice for back there. Thanks.
Sounds good! Any CIP option? I DM some girls on Instagram and met up with one, took her to a motel in Gangnam and did the deed but way to much work.Hey brother!
They do have CIP options but do not take foreigners: see They also have stocking service for free.
These girls were Thai but gorgeous 8 or 9/10. Wish I could upload photos here but not sure if that is allowed?
And oh wow that takes some serious skill and effort! Kudos to you for pulling it off.
Let's hit 30 posts so we can DM!
What? You had to still try and convince her to meet even after offering 700000 won?? Lmfao what a joke.
Secondly. Why are you offering crazy prices?500 K? And 200 K more? Was she super hot? Did you pay for dinner too? LOL.
If you search by location in Instagram, type popular clubs, locations and malls, you can find a lot. Start several liking their pics and see if they like back. Once they do, follow them and send a friendly message. You want to find girls with less followers, not those influencers kinds. Under 2000 followers (more or less) worked best for me.
Once you follow enough, Instagram will inherently suggest the similar girls. You also check their followings and follow those. If they follow a lot of guys, it's a good sign. As the algorithm builds on your account, you will get more similar girls. It's a lot of work, it's easier just go to officetel or an ma and get it over with, especially if you're not very good looking or on a budget. But if you have time and don't mind chatting with some girls then sure.Interesting! I tried this on a small group but wasn't getting any hits. I was using a blank-ish account and not flaunting assets.
Thanks for the tips.
Had some free time yesterday before dinner and went online to look for a hyugetel in Gangnam.
Getting There:
Called and set an appointment to see a girl for a 70 minute two shot course. Since it was my first time visiting this establishment, I had to verify by sending a photo of my business card.
Confirmed within minutes then was given the address and told to call once I arrived.
Arrived at the location and called and was given a room number at a officetel for me to enter.
Service:
Came to see "Bori" a 28 years old gorgeous thai girl with a petite frame and massive the cups (plastic surgery).
She greeted me with a warm smile and gave me some water / juice as we both got undressed.
Did some small talk then we got undressed and she took me into her shower.
We both brushed our teeth and after she washed me thoroughly in the shower.
She then used mouthwash to cleanse herself once again and then promptly gave me a blow job for a minty and refreshing oral.Bro,
Nice report. Waiting for you get your PM setup.
Do let me know which hyugetels in Seoul accept foreigners. Waiting to visit those places ASAP.
KoreanChinese
01-07-22, 21:19
I had some matches on meeeff and they give me a kakao ID. Then they message me only in hungul, no English. Saying meet for 3 hrs for 1.5 roses. They say send picture of hotel key tell room number and hotel name. Are these scams? Donut eaters? Or legit?
Any advice or recommendations for meeting outcall girls? Please PM with any recommendations. Thanks.
I did quite a bit of mongering in Hawaii, so let me know if you need any advice for back there. Thanks.The key phrase "take pic of hotel key" means they are often just an agency. The person you're chatting with is usually a guy, and basically once he talks you up and you send him the picture. He will call one of the girls and meet you.
Ask them this: oh what I don't like you? Or you don't look the same in real life. If they answer something like "oh I'm confident you will like me or like oh just pay for my taxi then" and then you will know for sure they are most likely An agency LOL. Tons of them the massage rep site!
KoreanChinese
01-07-22, 21:25
500 K? And 200 K more? Was she super hot? Did you pay for dinner too? LOL.Yeah LOL I was so super horny. This one in particular I offered 500 k, asking for a date (I straight up just and be transparent sometimes unless you want to try to game) and go back to watch a movie at a motel. She said yeah to it. I then ask her if it is okay we make love / get intimate as well? Then she said stuff like oh I've never been with a foreigner and I don't have sex that much or like sex? Something like that my Korean isn't the best. So I offered her 200 k for a total 700 k (which included her fare to Gangnam). She just said ok LOL. Met her and went to some boutique hotel in samseong for 40 usd around. Did the deedx2 cip, Then went to eat.
KoreanChinese
01-07-22, 21:30
I had some matches on meeeff and they give me a kakao ID. Then they message me only in hungul, no English. Saying meet for 3 hrs for 1.5 roses. They say send picture of hotel key tell room number and hotel name. Are these scams? Donut eaters? Or legit?
Any advice or recommendations for meeting outcall girls? Please PM with any recommendations. Thanks.
I did quite a bit of mongering in Hawaii, so let me know if you need any advice for back there. Thanks.Oh yeah bro I forgot to add. Don't bother with tinder if you decide to, you will get tons of these girls who put their Instagram handles on the profile. Some are agency but the majority of that is they just want extra followers and every horny guy follows and likes. Don't bother with it!
Yeah some take convincing especially if they are far away. If you low ball, they aren't going to be to impressed. So if I offer them more money as a way of paying for their taxi rides, certain requests (no condom) and they are more inclined to meet and also give them the idea of future sponsorship. To that end, the more you are generous (rich in sense), good pics on Instagram, better responses and better luck. You definitely don't want to offer an ma prices to them LOL. Is it economical. Of course not. It just another method of f'ing. You can definitely get the same type of girls in officetel with better pricing or go to clubs and Pick girls up. But some of the Instagram girls are really hot. If I can DM one day, I can show you some messages and pics. Also using location and popular places to find some girls LOL. Note to admin. Sorry I'm trying to format my posts because if I continuously type, it seem like to was going all the way to the left of the screen into one major sentence before it "return" I was trying to organize my sentences into section. Right now I just wrote without hitting return once, hope that works better.To each his own. But offering prices like 700 k change the market somewhat and even average looking girls start charging 300 k thinking they are worth it.
No matter how cute they try and make their selfies and messaging, its a risk to pay that much for less than a industry pro Korean girls think by just looking the cutest or sexiest as possible with their luxury bag deserves high asking price. Most are likely dead fish in bed moaning like japanese porn stars LOL.
Its weird. You don't mind spending potentially 700 k on a girl who gets dolled up without guarantee of their bed skills but you don't want to spend 25000 won on a membership?
500 K? And 200 K more? Was she super hot? Did you pay for dinner too? LOL.Ask the guy who offered that in the other post LOL. It was me that's for sure!
KoreanChinese
01-08-22, 04:49
To each his own. But offering prices like 700 k change the market somewhat and even average looking girls start charging 300 k thinking they are worth it.
No matter how cute they try and make their selfies and messaging, its a risk to pay that much for less than a industry pro Korean girls think by just looking the cutest or sexiest as possible with their luxury bag deserves high asking price. Most are likely dead fish in bed moaning like japanese porn stars LOL.
Its weird. You don't mind spending potentially 700 k on a girl who gets dolled up without guarantee of their bed skills but you don't want to spend 25000 won on a membership?I know what you mean. Well most of them are absolutely dead in bed unless they worked in a sex shop before LOL. But one thing for I notice, ugly girls provide the better service LOL. In terms of 700 k, you'd be surprised how much people offer out there. I don't just blindly offer that much money. There is somewhat negotiation involved but I don't want to get into it, maybe later when I get a chance to really dissect it. It's really quite normal at least for me and to a lot of my friend who do the same thing. Some say it's normal, some say are simps. In terms of bed skills, I don't mind it too much because I know if I need a good f**k I just go to an ma. It's the girls that you can't f**k normally or at least the feeling of that us what is exciting. Actually I don't even mind paying for the membership, I even offered takoyaki I'd pay both of our memberships. But instead I guess we will try to hit 30 posts. This would be a better option as I don't have a Coinbase account and don't want to do the know your customer setup LOL. But if they accepted credit card as is, I would sign up immediate and pay for takoyaki. Admin can message me directly for my details.
Bro,
Nice report. Waiting for you get your PM setup.
Do let me know which hyugetels in Seoul accept foreigners. Waiting to visit those places ASAP.Will do! And I would need to venture a bit first to a few more hyugetels to figure out which ones accept foreigners.
Yeah LOL I was so super horny. This one in particular I offered 500 k, asking for a date (I straight up just and be transparent sometimes unless you want to try to game) and go back to watch a movie at a motel. She said yeah to it. I then ask her if it is okay we make love / get intimate as well? Then she said stuff like oh I've never been with a foreigner and I don't have sex that much or like sex? Something like that my Korean isn't the best. So I offered her 200 k for a total 700 k (which included her fare to Gangnam). She just said ok LOL. Met her and went to some boutique hotel in samseong for 40 usd around. Did the deedx2 cip, Then went to eat.Damn man with 500 k you could have a threesome with gorgeous S class models in Seoul raw, and CIP / CIM. With 700 k you could do all that and more!
Thanks for your luxury report and insight into IG mongering / hustling.
To each his own. But offering prices like 700 k change the market somewhat and even average looking girls start charging 300 k thinking they are worth it.
No matter how cute they try and make their selfies and messaging, its a risk to pay that much for less than a industry pro Korean girls think by just looking the cutest or sexiest as possible with their luxury bag deserves high asking price. Most are likely dead fish in bed moaning like japanese porn stars LOL.
Its weird. You don't mind spending potentially 700 k on a girl who gets dolled up without guarantee of their bed skills but you don't want to spend 25000 won on a membership?To each its own! I'm sure there's a thrill in convincing the other partner too which makes it extra fun. Or maybe even a fun challenge.
I know what you mean. Well most of them are absolutely dead in bed unless they worked in a sex shop before LOL. But one thing for I notice, ugly girls provide the better service LOL. In terms of 700 k, you'd be surprised how much people offer out there. I don't just blindly offer that much money. There is somewhat negotiation involved but I don't want to get into it, maybe later when I get a chance to really dissect it. It's really quite normal at least for me and to a lot of my friend who do the same thing. Some say it's normal, some say are simps. In terms of bed skills, I don't mind it too much because I know if I need a good f**k I just go to an ma. It's the girls that you can't f**k normally or at least the feeling of that us what is exciting. Actually I don't even mind paying for the membership, I even offered takoyaki I'd pay both of our memberships. But instead I guess we will try to hit 30 posts. This would be a better option as I don't have a Coinbase account and don't want to do the know your customer setup LOL. But if they accepted credit card as is, I would sign up immediate and pay for takoyaki. Admin can message me directly for my details.I was offered entry into one of the Anmas in Gangnam for a fee of 300 k. I wasn't sure of what I would get inside and hence didn't opt for it. If the quality and the experience is good, then I definitely don't mind paying up. Which anma is top of the line quality and accepts foreigners and what should I be paying for 2 shots?
KoreanChinese
01-08-22, 17:56
I was offered entry into one of the Anmas in Gangnam for a fee of 300 k. I wasn't sure of what I would get inside and hence didn't opt for it. If the quality and the experience is good, then I definitely don't mind paying up. Which anma is top of the line quality and accepts foreigners and what should I be paying for 2 shots?Seems like they charged you a bit more. It's usually like 280 k for 2 shots and 240 k or 1 shot. I usually go to Gain Anma and goldfish / dream anma near gangnam station. And club anma in Samseong. There are other like king, castle and donuts but have been since 2018. They might be closed now.
Usually the mamasan or receptions will ask you what type of girl you want. Big boobs, cute face etc. But service should be quite good. Massage + sex or two shot might include, small massage, sex then nuru massage then sex. Depends! Which one did you go!
KoreanChinese
01-08-22, 18:18
500 K? And 200 K more? Was she super hot? Did you pay for dinner too? LOL.Yeah she was super hot man and I was super horny. She works for a Korean airline so man I could not resist.
Yeah she was super hot man and I was super horny. She works for a Korean airline so man I could not resist.Just watch a porn for 5 minutes. Save 700)).
Ask the guy who offered that in the other post LOL. It was me that's for sure!*WASNT me.
KoreanChinese
01-09-22, 04:25
Just watch a porn for 5 minutes. Save 700.Sound advice! I'll keep that in mind and get new pair of shoes instead.
Seems like they charged you a bit more. It's usually like 280 k for 2 shots and 240 k or 1 shot. I usually go to Gain Anma and goldfish / dream anma near gangnam station. And club anma in Samseong. There are other like king, castle and donuts but have been since 2018. They might be closed now.
Usually the mamasan or receptions will ask you what type of girl you want. Big boobs, cute face etc. But service should be quite good. Massage + sex or two shot might include, small massage, sex then nuru massage then sex. Depends! Which one did you go!I was offered entry at Gold Superman near Gangnam and also at Lyra (erstwhile Castle) near SeoulLeung. Both offered 300 k for one shot. Is it OK to negotiate or is it a 'take it or leave it' model and it's not considered polite to negotiate?
I am looking for the address of Gain. Heard from folks that it's top quality. Once you get your PM, do PM me the location of Gain.
Yeah she was super hot man and I was super horny. She works for a Korean airline so man I could not resist.Korean Airline. Must be a flight attendant. Those girls are hot! Every time I fly Korean Airline, I get an erection. Wouldn't mind be a part of the mile high club!
There is definitely some Korean hottie on IG! Did she show a lot of skin in her IG pix?
KoreanChinese
01-09-22, 12:08
Hey guys,
I got some good news today I went to gain anma as I was in gangnam station and the reception told they are now accepting foreigners especially from Singapore or countries with LTV. The best time she told me to come is when it's not busy which is between 1-2 pm when everyone is in break. There closed rooms at this time as well. She also told me bring all my friends next time so definitely looking forward to being a group of people one day. (Not sure if we can get discount but probably we can!
Korean Airline. Must be a flight attendant. Those girls are hot! Every time I fly Korean Airline, I get an erection. Wouldn't mind be a part of the mile high club!
There is definitely some Korean hottie on IG! Did she show a lot of skin in her IG pix?Haha you're go na pay deeply for that hotness. If people are paying 700 for a date then think of how much youd be spending dating full time. Shed be wanting a Chanel bag every week. Enjoy LOL.
KoreanChinese
01-10-22, 05:03
Korean Airline. Must be a flight attendant. Those girls are hot! Every time I fly Korean Airline, I get an erection. Wouldn't mind be a part of the mile high club!
There is definitely some Korean hottie on IG! Did she show a lot of skin in her IG pix?It's just the thought of banging a flight attendant is awesome man. Her pictures aren't showing to much skins like big breasts. But she dresses well and wear these nice skanky dresses that shows off her cleavage in a subtle way and nice long legs with white creamy skin that is my favourite. And she has so many random pictures of her in nice hotels that you have no idea who took for her haha. It is a good sign when msging I think she said she work at air Busan or Asiana, I forgot but her uniform is light blue was a white scarf. Sucked in bed just lied there, but she was so sexy, body was so nice, slim, long legs, white manicure and pedicure. Hairless! My favourite!
KoreanChinese
01-10-22, 05:11
I was offered entry at Gold Superman near Gangnam and also at Lyra (erstwhile Castle) near SeoulLeung. Both offered 300 k for one shot. Is it OK to negotiate or is it a 'take it or leave it' model and it's not considered polite to negotiate?
I am looking for the address of Gain. Heard from folks that it's top quality. Once you get your PM, do PM me the location of Gain.I think it doesn't hurt to negotiate. But don't haggle to much. Just simply ask: is 2 shot okay for 300 k? For me I need 2 shots because I come in like 2 minutes. But if you like longer foreplay then you can just opt for 1 shot. The price you're getting is still good and you're allowed to get in there really the key. So many foreigners can't get in at all so they have to go to RLDs and random barber blowjob joints.
Everything is negotiable but whether you good or bad at is a different story haha. For kiss bangs I always pay around 100,000 for full service but usually the girls just give you a hand job or blow job. But you can say stuff like, no hand job no blow, just sex 100 k? Please. They always say yes hehe. Some girls I DM, when telling them the location to meet, I definitely don't want to bring them to high end hotels like Hyatt, shilla, Sofitel or other hotels. So I sneak the question like. Is any location okay? Do you like fancy hotel or anything is okay? Is it okay we go to motel? And usually they only answer the last question, and answer any location / motel is okay then you book a simple love motel hehe, saved some money there that's what I did with flight at attendant.
I'll probably check out Lyra / castle later today and see the situation!
KoreanChinese
01-10-22, 05:24
Haha you're go na pay deeply for that hotness. If people are paying 700 for a date then think of how much youd be spending dating full time. Shed be wanting a Chanel bag every week. Enjoy LOL.To each their own hehe. There are people paying $2000 a day some up to 20,000 a day for Kpop stars and trainees or just high end models too. It's funny because I always hear about this on Reddit forums and stuff and always thought people say this shit to flex, boast and chase clout. When I met a few friends in cheongdam doing business and got introduced to some group and just talking with girls I met I learned first hand almost every single Korean kid under 28 don't work because of their parents and all they talk about is the very thing we talk about here but they are more into picking up girls at the club / instagrams and sponsoring 3-5 girls at time paying 20,000-40,000 a month or sometimes in single session (take with grain of salt). There is one particular super hot girl very popular on Instagram that charge 15,000-20,000 (not quite sure all details) and the only hotel she goes to is paradise city with a specific room. There's more to this but I shorten, skipped some details, because I don't want to type an essay and go to into deep details. It is incredible the amount of people make, and what they spend it on. If you look at as as whole, it's stupid to pay for sex when it's free LOL, let alone 300 or 700 or 20000. There are levels to the games but some might say level of stupid.
I was offered entry at Gold Superman near Gangnam and also at Lyra (erstwhile Castle) near SeoulLeung. Both offered 300 k for one shot. Is it OK to negotiate or is it a 'take it or leave it' model and it's not considered polite to negotiate?
I am looking for the address of Gain. Heard from folks that it's top quality. Once you get your PM, do PM me the location of Gain.Hmm I think you could ask for a lower price or name your price first 280 K or something and see how they respond. Most places won't budge though from their initial call price.
Yeah she was super hot man and I was super horny. She works for a Korean airline so man I could not resist.Worth it haha!
Also will be visiting another hyugetel tomorrow in gangnam area. Will report back if they allow foreigners and what the process / experience is like.
Ooh also as a question, what kind of girls are you guys' looking for from an anma / hyugetel / op / etc experience?
Korean? Russian? GFE? Cute? Petite? Sexy? Big ass? Etc?
Haha you're go na pay deeply for that hotness. If people are paying 700 for a date then think of how much youd be spending dating full time. Shed be wanting a Chanel bag every week. Enjoy LOL.Heh at least this way he gets to enjoy multiple women for the same cost of dating full time. Best of both worlds in my book!
Also, should be at 30 posts now so PM if you'd like to go to hyugetels / anmas / OP's together (Please see my post way below).
Haha you're go na pay deeply for that hotness. If people are paying 700 for a date then think of how much youd be spending dating full time. Shed be wanting a Chanel bag every week. Enjoy LOL.I'm not paying 700. That's crazy and pushes the price up for everyone. I'd just go to Gain a few times or other places for that price.
SeoulSearching
01-10-22, 23:00
Based on some of these posts from a few pages back, I think we have been invaded by some agency crew trying to push higher rates.
These rate asks won't last when there are fewer flight restrictions. We'll see more independent uni girls working for less (they are out there) and a trip + week of fun in SE Asia will be less than some of the foolish numbers I am seeing posted here.
Don't think you need to spend some of these ridiculous prices to have fun in Seoul. Do your homework. Try dating (unless you are just plain fugly or really old).
And on a different note. Candy has been around Itaewon for over 15 years. If I catch any of you actually paying 30 k for a drink with someone like that, I will personally reach through your monitor and slap you like Napoleon.
And yes, the Hill is mostly dead, but if you can catch Pandora open, under the Uzbek restaurant, you will be a happy man.
KoreanChinese
01-11-22, 02:22
I'm not paying 700. That's crazy and pushes the price up for everyone. I'd just go to Gain a few times or other places for that price.Or kiss room LOL, you can go 3 times paying the average of 190 and bang 3 cute girls!
KoreanChinese
01-11-22, 02:27
Heh at least this way he gets to enjoy multiple women for the same cost of dating full time. Best of both worlds in my book!
Also, should be at 30 posts now so PM if you'd like to go to hyugetels / anmas / OP's together (Please see my post way below).Right! If you take a hot girl on a date, you're going to spend close to that and you might not get sex until few dates haha! Any good high end resto is going to cost $200++ With alcohol, especially if it's sushi omasake. Then plus a nice hotel it's gone 400+ unless you just budget everything which definitely works! Everyone has a method, budget and different type of girls they go after! I'll go with you soon!
KoreanChinese
01-11-22, 02:33
Based on some of these posts from a few pages back, I think we have been invaded by some agency crew trying to push higher rates.
These rate asks won't last when there are fewer flight restrictions. We'll see more independent uni girls working for less (they are out there) and a trip + week of fun in SE Asia will be less than some of the foolish numbers I am seeing posted here.
Don't think you need to spend some of these ridiculous prices to have fun in Seoul. Do your homework. Try dating (unless you are just plain fugly or really old).
And on a different note. Candy has been around Itaewon for over 15 years. If I catch any of you actually paying 30 k for a drink with someone like that, I will personally reach through your monitor and slap you like Napoleon.
And yes, the Hill is mostly dead, but if you can catch Pandora open, under the Uzbek restaurant, you will be a happy man.It's interesting you mention the price hike, I also hear from the girls I've been seeing and some of my pals that run outcalls, they are telling me tons of girls are going to Singapore or Dubai because they are paying way more than men in Korea as tons of them low balling and demanding. But I agree you definitely do not need to spend that kind of money to have fun. Just stick within your budget and comfort level, there many girls in the sea who will accept your offer. Some might think they are worth more than they are just like the same way you think they are worth. If that make sense. Plenty to choose from.
KoreanChinese
01-11-22, 02:39
Ooh also as a question, what kind of girls are you guys' looking for from an anma / hyugetel / op / etc experience?
Korean? Russian? GFE? Cute? Petite? Sexy? Big ass? Etc?My ideal Korean women would: creamy white skin, c cup, cute or sexy face, and slim legs. I don't have a preference for height.
Occasionally I don't mind having college girls, a-be tits, Average body and soft bum. It'd usually the age or their perceived innocence that's turns me on. I also don't mind Korean MILFs 30-35+ as some of them kept their bodies nice and toned. Petite girls are nice too because you can pick them up and you know what I mean!!
In terms of sex experience, I prefer GFE the most I don't mind not having PSE because you can get that any time. I like the DFK and slowly love making and eventually CIP where possible. I have yet to try a Russian here but heard from some of my friends they are sexy as fuck. This is on my bucket list for sure.
KoreanChinese
01-11-22, 02:45
Also will be visiting another hyugetel tomorrow in gangnam area. Will report back if they allow foreigners and what the process / experience is like.Bro sorry what is a hyugetel? Is what the difference between that and anma? Do you get to choose the girls instead? This is probably something I haven't tried yet.
Traveling John #2
01-11-22, 03:36
This has worked for me, but like mentioned some of the girls are asking crazy amounts. One wanted me to pay 500,000 just to meet for dinner. And she was average looking at best. There is a Russian Korean girl on there. She is list her age 26 but I think she is 29 and name starts with letter V. She does not like kissing or oral and afraid of germs. The rate was 300,000 for about 2 hours of time. I would be curious if other guys are getting better experiences with her.
British girl 5'2" short and slim and fun but wants everything with cover. Her rate was between 400,000 and 500,000.
Traveling John #2
01-11-22, 03:48
Suwon used to be awesome. Dongducheon is open to foreign teachers and a few at yeongdeungpo. Pyeongtaek really is not good. Busan is same has Guram. 1 or 2 of out of 10 would open door but girls were in their late 30's or bigger.
I have not found a good way to find the right girl that will accept. Even the older or fatter ones often say no. These places do not have be row girls. I asked one girl 4 or 5 times.
It is so much work and always changing.
KoreanChinese
01-11-22, 07:52
This has worked for me, but like mentioned some of the girls are asking crazy amounts. One wanted me to pay 500,000 just to meet for dinner. And she was average looking at best. There is a Russian Korean girl on there. She is list her age 26 but I think she is 29 and name starts with letter V. She does not like kissing or oral and afraid of germs. The rate was 300,000 for about 2 hours of time. I would be curious if other guys are getting better experiences with her.
British girl 5'2" short and slim and fun but wants everything with cover. Her rate was between 400,000 and 500,000.I tried this too. That entire website site in Seoul is flooded by agencies. I think I met at least 7 or 8 girls on there and deduced they were agency because they had no idea of our prior conversations or spoke English like how they talk in chat LOL. So I'm assuming it's some guy typing it.
KoreanChinese
01-11-22, 07:54
Heh at least this way he gets to enjoy multiple women for the same cost of dating full time. Best of both worlds in my book!
Also, should be at 30 posts now so PM if you'd like to go to hyugetels / anmas / OP's together (Please see my post way below).Haha tako halo, I don't think we can message each other. You must buy a subscription: I was looking forward to our 30 post.
I think it doesn't hurt to negotiate. But don't haggle to much. Just simply ask: is 2 shot okay for 300 k? For me I need 2 shots because I come in like 2 minutes. But if you like longer foreplay then you can just opt for 1 shot. The price you're getting is still good and you're allowed to get in there really the key. So many foreigners can't get in at all so they have to go to RLDs and random barber blowjob joints.
Everything is negotiable but whether you good or bad at is a different story haha. For kiss bangs I always pay around 100,000 for full service but usually the girls just give you a hand job or blow job. But you can say stuff like, no hand job no blow, just sex 100 k? Please. They always say yes hehe. Some girls I DM, when telling them the location to meet, I definitely don't want to bring them to high end hotels like Hyatt, shilla, Sofitel or other hotels. So I sneak the question like. Is any location okay? Do you like fancy hotel or anything is okay? Is it okay we go to motel? And usually they only answer the last question, and answer any location / motel is okay then you book a simple love motel hehe, saved some money there that's what I did with flight at attendant.
I'll probably check out Lyra / castle later today and see the situation!Are you able to do full service in kiss bang or are you meeting them outside later? I thought its hard to do full service in the room.
And on a different note. Candy has been around Itaewon for over 15 years. If I catch any of you actually paying 30 k for a drink with someone like that, I will personally reach through your monitor and slap you like Napoleon.
And yes, the Hill is mostly dead, but if you can catch Pandora open, under the Uzbek restaurant, you will be a happy man.Preach.
SA is mostly a joke. How I wish we could travel.
Ooh also as a question, what kind of girls are you guys' looking for from an anma / hyugetel / op / etc experience?
Korean, big breasts, good at BJs.
KoreanChinese
01-11-22, 17:31
Are you able to do full service in kiss bang or are you meeting them outside later? I thought its hard to do full service in the room.You can do it in the kiss room itself. Yeah it's not the most Romantic or comfortable thing, it's more like a quickie than anything. You don't shower or anything. You can use some wet wipes to wipe yourself and her down. You can ask for their kakao if you want to meet at motels from time to time if you want. You will need to talk to them about that and arrange it. If they like you they definitely will do that.
Wow, 700 k!
Now the agencies and MR girls reading this forum will start thinking they should up their rates by another 100-200 k since someone out there is willing to pay haha. The scene in Korea sure has come a long way from independent girls charging 120-150 k, to doubling their rates virtually overnight (I was there when the 150 k girls became 250 k girls, then just as suddenly suddenly 350 k became the norm). And now they hear of customers willingly throwing 700 k for service that isn't even overnight!
There are thousands of Korean girls on insta that will let you creampie them all night for 700 k, and by all night I mean exactly that. Not quite my cup of tea when you can get almost as hot girls from the OP sites for less than half the price, especially if you become a girl's repeat customer she would be more than willing to make side deals with you.
Someone asked what time Miari opens. The answer is it's pretty much a 24 HR place. The night shift girls start arriving between 6-8 pm and work till 4-5 am. The day shift girls arrive around 6-7 am and work till noon-ish, then second day shift girls work from noon till around 5 pm. Night shift obviously has the highest selection, though there will be a good (but small) selection of MILFs for day shift.
RainingMeat
01-12-22, 01:27
There are thousands of Korean girls on insta that will let you creampie them all night for 700 k.How do you find girls on insta? How would you know they are punting?
Wow, 700 k!
Now the agencies and MR girls reading this forum will start thinking they should up their rates by another 100-200 k since someone out there is willing to pay haha. The scene in Korea sure has come a long way from independent girls charging 120-150 k, to doubling their rates virtually overnight (I was there when the 150 k girls became 250 k girls, then just as suddenly suddenly 350 k became the norm). And now they hear of customers willingly throwing 700 k for service that isn't even overnight!
There are thousands of Korean girls on insta that will let you creampie them all night for 700 k, and by all night I mean exactly that. Not quite my cup of tea when you can get almost as hot girls from the OP sites for less than half the price, especially if you become a girl's repeat customer she would be more than willing to make side deals with you.
Someone asked what time Miari opens. The answer is it's pretty much a 24 HR place. The night shift girls start arriving between 6-8 pm and work till 4-5 am. The day shift girls arrive around 6-7 am and work till noon-ish, then second day shift girls work from noon till around 5 pm. Night shift obviously has the highest selection, though there will be a good (but small) selection of MILFs for day shift.Yeah could of probably had a 3 some!
JustForFun1111
01-12-22, 06:58
I'm from the us but would go to Seoul once or twice a year before Covid. I plan to go again once quarantine rules loosen up. I've gone to anmas and RLDs and kiss bangs but it would be cool to have a few mongering bros to share info and meet up with. If you guys are serious about it I'd love to exchange info also for that. Guess I would have to post to get up to DM status since I don't want to do the weird payment system also. I've never been to a room salon since my Korean is limited and it's hard to figure out when you're not fluent. I would be down to go though.
Y'all want to meet up and go to room salons together?
But I don't think he's going to come back.
JustForFun1111
01-12-22, 07:01
You can do it in the kiss room itself. Yeah it's not the most Romantic or comfortable thing, it's more like a quickie than anything. You don't shower or anything. You can use some wet wipes to wipe yourself and her down. You can ask for their kakao if you want to meet at motels from time to time if you want. You will need to talk to them about that and arrange it. If they like you they definitely will do that.Last time I went to a kb the prices were higher than you listed. It was 80 k for an hour and girls were asking 50 for a HJ and some even 100 for a HJ. I declined the 100 HJ cause they're just jacking up the price. I had one girl offer 150 for FS but she was less attractive than the other ones that wanted more money. I never tried negotiating but perhaps I could try that.
JustForFun1111
01-12-22, 07:08
Anyone know if it's possible to get a Korean phone number without having a Korean ID? Something temporary would be fine. I've always understood you need a Korean ID to grt a phone. In the us we have prepaid phones or no contract / monthly phone plans. Does that exist in Korea?
Haha tako halo, I don't think we can message each other. You must buy a subscription: I was looking forward to our 30 post.Guys,
Just buy a subscription. Lot easier and convenient to PM details and move from there.
Penetrador
01-12-22, 12:49
Wow, 700 k!
Now the agencies and MR girls reading this forum will start thinking they should up their rates by another 100-200 k since someone out there is willing to pay haha. The scene in Korea sure has come a long way from independent girls charging 120-150 k, to doubling their rates virtually overnight (I was there when the 150 k girls became 250 k girls, then just as suddenly suddenly 350 k became the norm). And now they hear of customers willingly throwing 700 k for service that isn't even overnight!
There are thousands of Korean girls on insta that will let you creampie them all night for 700 k, and by all night I mean exactly that. Not quite my cup of tea when you can get almost as hot girls from the OP sites for less than half the price, especially if you become a girl's repeat customer she would be more than willing to make side deals with you..I wish yeongdeungpo was a 24 HR place? By the way what are the Prices at Miari?
Penetrador
01-12-22, 12:51
Suwon used to be awesome. Dongducheon is open to foreign teachers and a few at yeongdeungpo. Pyeongtaek really is not good. Busan is same has Guram. 1 or 2 of out of 10 would open door but girls were in their late 30's or bigger.
I have not found a good way to find the right girl that will accept. Even the older or fatter ones often say no. These places do not have be row girls. I asked one girl 4 or 5 times.
It is so much work and always changing.How many are left in Seoul including ***** hill? I miss 588.
Nother Monger
01-12-22, 22:10
Anyone know if it's possible to get a Korean phone number without having a Korean ID? Something temporary would be fine. I've always understood you need a Korean ID to grt a phone. In the us we have prepaid phones or no contract / monthly phone plans. Does that exist in Korea?Yes, you can buy a pre-paid SIM but they will need your passport to register it to it.
JustForFun1111
01-13-22, 05:17
Last time I was there and at cheonho also I was quite 100 k for 30 minutes but I'm not a local. I've heard locals get 80 k. Mind you, this is also two years ago pre Covid. Things may have changed.
I wish yeongdeungpo was a 24 HR place? By the way what are the Prices at Miari?
JustForFun1111
01-13-22, 05:18
Thanks. Will basically any place do this? Any idea of what normal prices are? It's useful to have a local number just for something like kakao taxi. Sometimes it's hard to get a taxi.
Yes, you can buy a pre-paid SIM but they will need your passport to register it to it.
JustForFun1111
01-13-22, 07:26
Has anyone here been to a kiss bang lately? It seems kiss time in hongdae is still open but I'm not sure how the others are. I came across this website that had a list of kids bangs on another forum but seems to be an old list. I wonder how many of those are still open now. I can try to go find the list again and post it here if anyone is interested in exploring.
Last time I went to a kb the prices were higher than you listed. It was 80 k for an hour and girls were asking 50 for a HJ and some even 100 for a HJ. I declined the 100 HJ cause they're just jacking up the price. I had one girl offer 150 for FS but she was less attractive than the other ones that wanted more money. I never tried negotiating but perhaps I could try that.
SeoulSearching
01-13-22, 13:26
Or kiss room LOL, you can go 3 times paying the average of 190 and bang 3 cute girls!Where are some foreigner-friendly kiss bangs? I have never been in one.
Nother Monger
01-14-22, 01:26
Thanks. Will basically any place do this? Any idea of what normal prices are? It's useful to have a local number just for something like kakao taxi. Sometimes it's hard to get a taxi.It's been a long time since I had a pre-paid SIM so I don't know what the rates are. Just go to a SKTelecom or KT store with your passport and they will probably know what you need. The pre-paid SIMs that I had in the past would automatically expire after like 30 days -- not sure if that's still true today either.
Has anyone here been to a kiss bang lately? It seems kiss time in hongdae is still open but I'm not sure how the others are. I came across this website that had a list of kids bangs on another forum but seems to be an old list. I wonder how many of those are still open now. I can try to go find the list again and post it here if anyone is interested in exploring.A couple years ago Korea passed a law to crack down on "sex like" establishments -- this impacted KB's which is why there are a lot less of them now (risk vs reward).
JustForFun1111
01-14-22, 06:27
If you take exit 1 out of Hongdae at the green line, go towards the the first back street behind the main road. You should be on the opposite of the main Hongdae area. At the first intersection, on the left backhand corner above a convenient store, you will see a sign with a big K at the very top. I believe it is the third floor you there is one there. However, I think a better one is down the road. When you are at the first intersection facing away from the main road, make a left and go almost all the way down the street. On the right hand side towards the end, there is a red brick building after a "banana noraebang" and you'll see a sign with a K on it and says kiss time if I remember correctly. Go up to the third floor and there is another one there that I've found to have hotter girls.
Please report back if you go. I'd like to know how they are doing these days. They both take foreigners. At least East Asian looking ones from my experience.
Where are some foreigner-friendly kiss bangs? I have never been in one.
If you take exit 1 out of Hongdae at the green line, go towards the the first back street behind the main road. You should be on the opposite of the main Hongdae area. At the first intersection, on the left backhand corner above a convenient store, you will see a sign with a big K at the very top. I believe it is the third floor you there is one there. However, I think a better one is down the road. When you are at the first intersection facing away from the main road, make a left and go almost all the way down the street. On the right hand side towards the end, there is a red brick building after a "banana noraebang" and you'll see a sign with a K on it and says kiss time if I remember correctly. Go up to the third floor and there is another one there that I've found to have hotter girls.
Please report back if you go. I'd like to know how they are doing these days. They both take foreigners. At least East Asian looking ones from my experience.Thanks.
What the protocol for these Kiss rooms?
I mean you pay at the counter and then brush your teeth etc. Or are they just talking with you mainly until you ask them for some services??
JustForFun1111
01-15-22, 04:56
There is no real protocol aside from what you mentioned. You pay, go brush your teeth, then the front desk guy will show you to your room. If you know who you want, you can make a request. You can ask for specific types but usually they just send whoever is available to your room.
In the room, it depends a lot on the girl. Some girls are kind of straight to business and will tell you their menu and prices. Personally, I prefer the ones who at least try to establish a rapport as they're usually more service oriented. They'll usually chit chat and you can kiss and touch and how much and how far you can go is up to the girl. Almost always they'll ask if you want extra service as that's how they make their money. Prices seem to vary and I feel like I've paid more than what I've seen others say they pay for in forums. I've been quoted pretty standard by multiple girls 50 for HJ and if they offer BJ it's 100. Some will ask for 100 for HJ, which is too much IMO but they're usually the better looking ones. I've had one quote 50 just to take her top off. She was one of the better looking ones I've seen though.
Some offer FS but menus vary a lot depending on the girl. I find part of the fun is to find one you like and have a rapport with them instead of going to a jack shack. The girls are usually college girls and I've had more good looking than not good looking ones.
Thanks.
What the protocol for these Kiss rooms?
I mean you pay at the counter and then brush your teeth etc. Or are they just talking with you mainly until you ask them for some services??
If you take exit 1 out of Hongdae at the green line, go towards the the first back street behind the main road. You should be on the opposite of the main Hongdae area. At the first intersection, on the left backhand corner above a convenient store, you will see a sign with a big K at the very top. I believe it is the third floor you there is one there. However, I think a better one is down the road. When you are at the first intersection facing away from the main road, make a left and go almost all the way down the street. On the right hand side towards the end, there is a red brick building after a "banana noraebang" and you'll see a sign with a K on it and says kiss time if I remember correctly. Go up to the third floor and there is another one there that I've found to have hotter girls.
Please report back if you go. I'd like to know how they are doing these days. They both take foreigners. At least East Asian looking ones from my experience.What is the address of this place? The directions are a bit confusing. Or at least give the address of the convenient store if that is better for privacy issues.
Haha tako halo, I don't think we can message each other. You must buy a subscription: I was looking forward to our 30 post.In order to be a senior member, you need to have 25 posts (not 30) and you need to have an active account here for six months.
Do you live in Seoul? I live in Seoul myself and it would be good to meet some new people.
JustForFun1111
01-15-22, 22:21
What is the address of this place? The directions are a bit confusing. Or at least give the address of the convenient store if that is better for privacy issues.I doubt anyone really knows the addresses to most of these places they go to. It's not like they have a yelp page. Honestly, the directions I gave were pretty detailed and I was given much less detailed directions the first time I went.
JustForFun1111
01-15-22, 22:24
I was never able to find nor get in with an officetel. It seems they're more for natives. Anyone here know how a foreigner would be able to get access or more info?
I was never able to find nor get in with an officetel. It seems they're more for natives. Anyone here know how a foreigner would be able to get access or more info?Are you in Korea now? I used to tell these private services my pseudonym when I tried contacting these places. I would tell them I am cnetro and I needed an inquiry if foreigners were allowed, but they always said no. Times have changed due to COVID, so it's possible there aren't any places that allow foreigners anymore except in Itaewon. But the Itaewon ladies are quite old and unattractive, plus they are fat and / or riddled with plastic surgeries. It's hard to find an attractive lady in Itaewon now.
Went back to King Thai Watpo near Hongdae. Made an appointment beforehand but still ended up waiting for 30+ minutes, they seemed super busy for a weeknight. Girl I got was young and thin, not a knockout but cute enough. She didn't seem to be in a great mood, I'm guessing that had to do with how busy they were. Massage and he were good despite her attitude, but it did make it a bit less fun. The prices and location are nice and I haven't had a "bad" experience yet per say, but I'll probably check out some other places. For what it's worth, a friend also tried it out recently on a weekend night and said he got a less attractive chubby girl, so they're not all gems. The hunt continues.Does anyone know the list of therapists available in this location? I want I try to find one particular one from Thailand. She had given a great massage. However forgot to ask her name. Been trying to find her since.
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Penetrador
01-16-22, 15:15
Last time I was there and at cheonho also I was quite 100 k for 30 minutes but I'm not a local. I've heard locals get 80 k. Mind you, this is also two years ago pre Covid. Things may have changed.Is Cheonho open and operating?
JustForFun1111
01-17-22, 00:24
Is Cheonho open and operating?Perhaps someone in Korea can do some recon and report back. It's not that far from the heart of Seoul.
JustForFun1111
01-17-22, 00:25
Is Cheonho open and operating?Different place but ydp was totally dead last time I went pre Covid. I did go when the sun was still out though.
It's too bad we can't send messages here without being a senior member or a subscriber. Most sites such as this one charge a nominal subscriber fee as it takes money to run a site like this.
JustForFun1111
01-17-22, 06:37
Most sites such as this one charge a nominal subscriber fee as it takes money to run a site like this.It seems some of the guys would prefer a more traditional way to pay like with a CC and the fee itself isn't so much the issue.
Is Cheonho open and operating?Unfortunately, that place is shut down. I live near it and it's been down for 2 years now. Only places in Seoul that I know of is YDP, which is a shell of its former self, Miari, and Hooker Hill.
JustForFun1111
01-18-22, 03:36
Unfortunately, that place is shut down. I live near it and it's been down for 2 years now. Only places in Seoul that I know of is YDP, which is a shell of its former self, Miari, and Hooker Hill.That's sad to hear. Cheonho was way better than ydp miari and 588 I felt. Anyone know if Suwon is still open?
Traveling John #2
01-18-22, 06:48
Different place but ydp was totally dead last time I went pre Covid. I did go when the sun was still out though.There is s girl on the main road down from YDP station. She is next to cash machine. She takes foreigners but always wants people to buy for more time. Guys will go in and come out to get more money. I heard one saying service is bad because she is wanting the customer to run out of time. If someone does get excited enough she tries to limit how deep they go. She looks attractive but horrible service.
JustForFun1111
01-19-22, 01:46
There is s girl on the main road down from YDP station. She is next to cash machine. She takes foreigners but always wants people to buy for more time. Guys will go in and come out to get more money. I heard one saying service is bad because she is wanting the customer to run out of time. If someone does get excited enough she tries to limit how deep they go. She looks attractive but horrible service.Thanks. I'll look for her next time I go. She has to be pretty hot to make up for what sounds like poor service. Who knows. Hotness can make me overlook many flaws LOL.
JustForFun1111
01-19-22, 08:42
Are you in Korea now? I used to tell these private services my pseudonym when I tried contacting these places. I would tell them I am cnetronobl and I needed an inquiry if foreigners were allowed, but they always said no. Times have changed due to COVID, so it's possible there aren't any places that allow foreigners anymore except in Itaewon. But the Itaewon ladies are quite old and unattractive, plus they are fat and / or riddled with plastic surgeries. It's hard to find a young, attractive lady in Itaewon now.I'm not in Korea right now but hope to be soon. I would think the officetels aren't in itaewon. I've never partaken at any of the places on the hill but from what I've read it seems the talent hasn't been good there for years.
JustForFun1111
01-20-22, 23:55
I was hoping some of you can help answer some general room salon questions for me. I have basic knowledge but never been to one as it's not really a solo adventure. I know Korean Chinese mentioned a meet up to go to one.
How do you find them? I've seen some places around Gangnam that I assume are room salons but I can't tell for sure if they are or not.
How much do they usually cost? I know cost varies depending on the quality of the girls. Let's say one that has good looking girls but doesn't have the 1% ones. Also don't want a run down place with old / fat women.
How many people do you need to go? Is 2 acceptable?
Will someone who knows just a little Korean enjoy it?
Any other things a rs noob should know?
Penetrador
01-21-22, 13:04
There is s girl on the main road down from YDP station. She is next to cash machine. She takes foreigners but always wants people to buy for more time. Guys will go in and come out to get more money. I heard one saying service is bad because she is wanting the customer to run out of time. If someone does get excited enough she tries to limit how deep they go. She looks attractive but horrible service.Have you tried her? I hope YDP Stays open forever!
JustForFun1111
01-22-22, 05:19
Have you tried her? I hope YDP Stays open forever!I haven't seen her. I've only been to ydp once and it didn't look open. I was there middle of the day though. I'm not sure if I saw the whole place cause the area I saw was pretty small.
JustForFun1111
01-23-22, 02:06
There is no real protocol aside from what you mentioned. You pay, go brush your teeth, then the front desk guy will show you to your room. If you know who you want, you can make a request. You can ask for specific types but usually they just send whoever is available to your room.
In the room, it depends a lot on the girl. Some girls are kind of straight to business and will tell you their menu and prices. Personally, I prefer the ones who at least try to establish a rapport as they're usually more service oriented. They'll usually chit chat and you can kiss and touch and how much and how far you can go is up to the girl. Almost always they'll ask if you want extra service as that's how they make their money. Prices seem to vary and I feel like I've paid more than what I've seen others say they pay for in forums. I've been quoted pretty standard by multiple girls 50 for HJ and if they offer BJ it's 100. Some will ask for 100 for HJ, which is too much IMO but they're usually the better looking ones. I've had one quote 50 just to take her top off. She was one of the better looking ones I've seen though.
Some offer FS but menus vary a lot depending on the girl. I find part of the fun is to find one you like and have a rapport with them instead of going to a jack shack. The girls are usually college girls and I've had more good looking than not good looking ones.Anyone venture out to check out the places?
What happened to Korean Chinese and Tacoyaki? It seems like they live in Korea so I wanted to contact them but it looks like they disappeared off this site.
JustForFun1111
01-23-22, 23:58
What happened to Korean Chinese and Tacoyaki? It seems like they live in Korea so I wanted to contact them but it looks like they disappeared off this site.Not sure where they went. I'm from the us.
Since there's been a lot of activity on the Seoul forum recently, I decided it would be a good time to add my two cents.
For context, it's important to note that I'm not Korean. I'm white, but I can write and speak Korean well enough. I'm far from fluent, but I can easily communicate over the phone.
Furthermore, I've been in Seoul for a number of years, but like a lot of people on this forum, I took time off from this leisure activity due to concerns of contracting Covid. I was further deterred by the difficulty of gaining entry to establishments at the beginning of the pandemic. Even establishments where I was a known regular became suspicious that I might be a walking Covid carrier.
Anyway, the situation in Seoul has changed somewhat since the time before the pandemic and has changed again since the early days of the pandemic.
Since late 2020, I've returned to my all my regular places and managed to find a few new ones. I've detailed my experiences below.
Cheonho RLD closed for good. The area was torn down to make way for a large apartment complex. Right before the area was demolished, during the final process of evicting the last of the brothels, a fire broke out in the area. Unfortunately, a few women died. The blame for the fire was placed on an old charcoal heater being used in one of the buildings.
MVP VIP Massage in Gangnam used to be a fairly reliable location. The women working there tended to be older, but they were fit and gave a good massage before moving on to full service. Overall, there were more hits than misses, and some girls even offered uncovered service. Recently, however, service at MVP VIP declined. The usual front desk guy, who I presumed was the owner or manager, changed sometime in 2021. When he left the quality of the women dropped. I visited twice in 2021 and both times the women were large, unattractive, unfriendly, and annoyed. I won't be going back. Let me know if you've had better experiences lately. Maybe I was just unlucky.
Miari RLD has generally remained unchanged. My usual said that there are far fewer customers these days. As a result there seems to be fewer women as well. There aren't drastically fewer women, but it is noticeable nonetheless.
If you go to Miari, be prepared to look into at least a few different doors. Also, keep in mind that some of the women look relatively thin and busty sitting down, but flabby and flat chested naked. Some of the older ladies working outside will try to give you the worst of the bunch unless you're a picky customer. The more they promise good service, the faster you should run away. And if you don't like what you see. And they promise that there are more girls inside, they aren't lying, but the other girls won't be any better. Just keep walking. On a Sunday afternoon not too long ago, one of the older ladies who I have good rapport with told me point blank "there aren't many women and none of them are pretty today". Saturday is much better than Sunday, and the evenings are better than the mornings and afternoons.
If you can establish a relationship as a good customer at Miari, you will undoubtedly get better service. Also, if there is anything that you specifically want, ask first. Ask before stepping inside. Also double check that older lady and the woman who will provide the service both know what is expected. From my experience, it is possible to get uncovered full service from quite a few women, but certainly not all of them. Deep french kissing is also on the menu, but it has gotten harder to get since the pandemic. A few years ago, I even got anal at no extra charge. On that day I think I just got lucky as I haven't gotten any since. It was my third time with the same provider and she was suddenly happy to offer me anal. However, if anal is your thing, don't ask the older ladies whether their girls do it. Even the provider who gave it to me told me not to tell the older ladies. None of them are supposed to offer anal, and the older ladies will get upset if you even ask.
However, feel free to ask to use the showers. Even if you're already clean, it's not a bad idea to wash off before and after. Just make sure to ask before you pay. Anything that isn't agreed to before paying seems to seriously annoy the older ladies.
In 2019 I started using Gunmas and Hyugetels advertised online. Gunmas are full body massage, plus handjob, blowjob, titty fucking, and simulated sex, I. E. A well lubricated pussy sliding across the underside of your cock and balls without penetration. Some of these are advertised at brick and mortar massage shops but many are also in private officetels. Gunmas are staffed by Korean ladies, and because they don't include penetration they tend to accept foreigners more readily than the other advertised services online.
Some previous poster already mentioned that the popoular online service opstar moved to opgani6. This is true. You can also check out aspot11 and yamap7 without registering, but they have a smaller selection. However, if you can't register because your Korean language skills aren't good enough, you won't be able to use the service anyway. Even if you can register, you will still have to communicate with management through text and / or phone call. Some establishments only allow calls, others will allow details to be hashed out over text, but still require that you call to receive the room number after arriving at the officetel. Some will even want you to send a picture of your business card to confirm that you're a real person in Korea. They probably also want your information on file as a means of protecting the women. If this spooks you, you're free not to use their services.
Hyugetels are officetels, but they are generally staffed by Thai ladies. Most Hyugetels won't accept foreigners at all. Therefore, it is important to be as straightforward as possible. I always tell management that I'm not Korean when I make inquiries. Plenty of these messages have been ignored. Sometimes management politely tells me that their women are for Koreans only. This isn't due to xenophobia as many posters assume. After all, most women working at Hyugetels are from Thailand. It is generally the women's preference not to accept non-Koreans. These women don't want to be with western guys because they are 1) afraid of long dicks and / or 2) assume that western men will jackhammer them. By the way, this is not my assumption, this is what a handful of women have told me. In addition, I've even been asked by management how long my dick is before being offered the women who are willing to accept. The first time I was asked, I was caught off guard and had to check that I had heard correctly.
Because not every woman at a Hyugetel will agree to be with a foreigner, I have never been allowed to pick from the whole menu. For instance, if they advertise five women, I might be offered one or at most two of the five. There is no recourse in these situations. I don't believe there are any ombudsmen who will get involved in these business, so it's a take it or leave it kind of deal.
From my experience, there is more than one Hyugetel in Seoul that accepts foreigners. However, I don't believe they accepted me with open arms. I think their mentality was "OK, we'll give you a shot, but don't fuck this up". This was never stated outright, but I'm certain that there is a lot of hassle in taking on a new foreign customer. There are rules on their advertisements and they want to make sure that their customers understand. There's also cultural etiquette that they worry westerners won't understand. Therefore, you may not be provided access to the same Hyugetels that I have been.
If you intend to contact some of the advertisers, be polite and understanding. If you piss off one manager. Or worse, if you piss off one of the girls after they let you in, you will be blacklisted. Also keep in mind that although there are many advertisements, there aren't that many "businesses". A lot of them are the same place with a different mobile phone number. And a lot of them share a pool of talented woman. If you follow the advertisements long enough, you will notice a woman pop up in another part of the city.
I'm afraid I won't reveal which "businesses" have accepted me as I'm fairly certain I was only allowed because I was polite and persistent, and I don't want to blow up their business and likewise potentially ruin my enjoyment. However, where there is a will, there is a way. Good luck out there.
I was hoping some of you can help answer some general room salon questions for me. I have basic knowledge but never been to one as it's not really a solo adventure. I know Korean Chinese mentioned a meet up to go to one.
How do you find them? I've seen some places around Gangnam that I assume are room salons but I can't tell for sure if they are or not.
How much do they usually cost? I know cost varies depending on the quality of the girls. Let's say one that has good looking girls but doesn't have the 1% ones. Also don't want a run down place with old / fat women.
How many people do you need to go? Is 2 acceptable?
Will someone who knows just a little Korean enjoy it?
Any other things a rs noob should know?The only way I know how to go to a room salon is to call them and make a reservation. So you're going to need to know a bit of Korean. You can find quite a few on those officetel websites. You choose a girl and go to a noraebang room. They'll provide you snacks and a bunch of alcohol that you won't be able to finish. It's 1 hour in the room and then 45 min for fun time.
It's a flat rate of 240,000 won, but may charge you more if you're a foreigner. During the time, they constantly bring you more snacks and alcohol even though you don't need it. They expect you to tip 10,000 every time, so probably an extra 60,000.
The great thing is that you get to choose the girl from a 2 way mirror. You can see them, but they can't see you. Maybe 5-10 girls. Might have to wait longer for more girls to come if there is none you like. I got a smoking hot girl when I went.
Service wise, they start you off with a 20 second BJ at the start and end of the noraebang room. You talk, sing, drink, and eat during that time. Then you go up to the room where they provide the worst service ever. Very rushed and just lays there. They need to have energy for the next 10 guys they're going to see.
Probably something fun to experience one time, but for the cost and service, definitely not worth it anymore than that. You can go by yourself if you want, but it's definitely a better experience when you go with your bros. I took my friends there pre-covid 2 years ago. They don't know any Korean. I know only basic Korean, so I was the translator for them. The girls know minimal English. If you know basic Korean, you'll be fine.
The only way I know how to go to a room salon is to call them and make a reservation. So you're going to need to know a bit of Korean. You can find quite a few on those officetel websites. You choose a girl and go to a noraebang room. They'll provide you snacks and a bunch of alcohol that you won't be able to finish. It's 1 hour in the room and then 45 min for fun time.
It's a flat rate of 240,000 won, but may charge you more if you're a foreigner. During the time, they constantly bring you more snacks and alcohol even though you don't need it. They expect you to tip 10,000 every time, so probably an extra 60,000.
The great thing is that you get to choose the girl from a 2 way mirror. You can see them, but they can't see you. Maybe 5-10 girls. Might have to wait longer for more girls to come if there is none you like. I got a smoking hot girl when I went.
Service wise, they start you off with a 20 second BJ at the start and end of the noraebang room. You talk, sing, drink, and eat during that time. Then you go up to the room where they provide the worst service ever. Very rushed and just lays there. They need to have energy for the next 10 guys they're going to see.
Probably something fun to experience one time, but for the cost and service, definitely not worth it anymore than that. You can go by yourself if you want, but it's definitely a better experience when you go with your bros. I took my friends there pre-covid 2 years ago. They don't know any Korean. I know only basic Korean, so I was the translator for them. The girls know minimal English. If you know basic Korean, you'll be fine.Some rooms you fuck the girls with your friends in the room itself. Just imagine a noraebang orgy but you stick with the girl that you partner up with.
Time is 2 hours and 2nd hour is when they strip down LOL.
JustForFun1111
01-25-22, 04:53
The only way I know how to go to a room salon is to call them and make a reservation. So you're going to need to know a bit of Korean. You can find quite a few on those officetel websites. You choose a girl and go to a noraebang room. They'll provide you snacks and a bunch of alcohol that you won't be able to finish. It's 1 hour in the room and then 45 min for fun time.
It's a flat rate of 240,000 won, but may charge you more if you're a foreigner. During the time, they constantly bring you more snacks and alcohol even though you don't need it. They expect you to tip 10,000 every time, so probably an extra 60,000.
The great thing is that you get to choose the girl from a 2 way mirror. You can see them, but they can't see you. Maybe 5-10 girls. Might have to wait longer for more girls to come if there is none you like. I got a smoking hot girl when I went.
Service wise, they start you off with a 20 second BJ at the start and end of the noraebang room. You talk, sing, drink, and eat during that time. Then you go up to the room where they provide the worst service ever. Very rushed and just lays there. They need to have energy for the next 10 guys they're going to see.
Probably something fun to experience one time, but for the cost and service, definitely not worth it anymore than that. You can go by yourself if you want, but it's definitely a better experience when you go with your bros. I took my friends there pre-covid 2 years ago. They don't know any Korean. I know only basic Korean, so I was the translator for them. The girls know minimal English. If you know basic Korean, you'll be fine.Thanks for the info! Doesn't sound like the most fun from how you describe it but it'll probably be worth a try at least once. 240 is a lot less than I was expecting. One thing I'm confused about is the food and drinks. You tip the guy 10 but don't they also charge you extra every time they bring it in or is the 240 all inclusive of food drinks and girls' service?
JustForFun1111
01-25-22, 04:55
Thanks for the detailed report on the officetels! I will do my best in trying to get in with one next time with your advice. What is a normal rate for one hour at an office tel?
Since there's been a lot of activity on the Seoul forum recently, I decided it would be a good time to add my two cents.
For context, it's important to note that I'm not Korean. I'm white, but I can write and speak Korean well enough. I'm far from fluent, but I can easily communicate over the phone.
Furthermore, I've been in Seoul for a number of years, but like a lot of people on this forum, I took time off from this leisure activity due to concerns of contracting Covid. I was further deterred by the difficulty of gaining entry to establishments at the beginning of the pandemic. Even establishments where I was a known regular became suspicious that I might be a walking Covid carrier.
Anyway, the situation in Seoul has changed somewhat since the time before the pandemic and has changed again since the early days of the pandemic.
Since late 2020, I've returned to my all my regular places and managed to find a few new ones. I've detailed my experiences below.
Cheonho RLD closed for good. The area was torn down to make way for a large apartment complex. Right before the area was demolished, during the final process of evicting the last of the brothels, a fire broke out in the area. Unfortunately, a few women died. The blame for the fire was placed on an old charcoal heater being used in one of the buildings..
JustForFun1111
01-25-22, 04:57
It seems in Asia, it's more normal to be getting it in on with a girl in the same room as other guys, IE pink salons in Japan. I don't know how I feel about that though LOL.
So it's 2 hours of drinking and singing before any action? I can see the appeal in that but I don't know how fun it would be if your Korean isn't good and the girls English isn't good.
Some rooms you fuck the girls with your friends in the room itself. Just imagine a noraebang orgy but you stick with the girl that you partner up with.
Time is 2 hours and 2nd hour is when they strip down LOL.
Since there's been a lot of activity on the Seoul forum recently, I decided it would be a good time to add my two cents.
For context, it's important to note that I'm not Korean. I'm white, but I can write and speak Korean well enough. I'm far from fluent, but I can easily communicate over the phone.
Furthermore, I've been in Seoul for a number of years, but like a lot of people on this forum, I took time off from this leisure activity due to concerns of contracting Covid. I was further deterred by the difficulty of gaining entry to establishments at the beginning of the pandemic. Even establishments where I was a known regular became suspicious that I might be a walking Covid carrier.
Anyway, the situation in Seoul has changed somewhat since the time before the pandemic and has changed again since the early days of the pandemic.
Since late 2020, I've returned to my all my regular places and managed to find a few new ones. I've detailed my experiences below.
Cheonho RLD closed for good. The area was torn down to make way for a large apartment complex. Right before the area was demolished, during the final process of evicting the last of the brothels, a fire broke out in the area. Unfortunately, a few women died. The blame for the fire was placed on an old charcoal heater being used in one of the buildings..Good report. Do you plan to get a PM for better communication. I wanted to understand the protocol and some 'unwritten' rules that will help me get access.
I want to go there but I don't want to go alone if I can go as a small group with one or two other people. Hopefully someone is interested.
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Thanks for the detailed report on the officetels! I will do my best in trying to get in with one next time with your advice. What is a normal rate for one hour at an office tel?The prices are clearly listed in the advertisements, so your best bet is to read them. If you can't read them, you won't be able to request what you would like anyway.
However, in the interests of trying to give back to the forum, where I have learned much, I'll explain the basics below.
Time is one factor that dictates price, but so is basic service as well as extras from the options menu. Most establishments also offer small discounts which are also described on the advertisements.
I'll explain by example below. Take, for instance, be course, which is a 50 minute, covered, 1-shot session. Most places list it at 100,000 won, and most offer a 10,000 won discount for customers who make an appointment before 6:00 pm. So if you want service in the early afternoon, you would only pay 90,000 won.
The 60 min courses are generally advertised as including 1-shot and 1-hand. So in addition to extra time, the provider will let you cum once through sex and once through a hand job. Some providers will work really hard to make you cum the second time. These 60 minute courses cost 110,000 - 120,000 won. If you want uncovered and would like to cum-inside your provider, you will need to add 30,000 won to the basic course price.
There are both shorter and longer courses than those mentioned above. Take a look at the advertisements and make some calls.
I tried a Gunma in Songpa gu. PM me for the details.
Not a good experience. The deal was struck at 90 k won. I went to the place and was ushered in. The massage was totally namesake. The provider was a decent girl but way too inexperienced and she told me so. Early 20's if I were to hazard a guess. After the namesake massage, it was all extras, 30 k for top access, 30 k for he and so on. The girl was totally new to this and not at all service oriented. Kept pushing back and saying no to everything.
The description provided by BonJovi3 in his Gunma section is totally not correct. It's a very basic fully clothed massage with a little bit of teasing involved. Nothing more.
Including the extras I spent 150 k, however I think a well known Anma like Gain, Castle, Gold etc would be a much better bet for the price they charge as well as much better value for money.
I will experiment those and provide a report.
Gunma's are not worth the price at all. Neither a good massage nor a good he.
Penetrador
01-26-22, 14:10
Since there's been a lot of activity on the Seoul forum recently, I decided it would be a good time to add my two cents.
For context, it's important to note that I'm not Korean. I'm white, but I can write and speak Korean well enough. I'm far from fluent, but I can easily communicate over the phone.
Furthermore, I've been in Seoul for a number of years, but like a lot of people on this forum, I took time off from this leisure activity due to concerns of contracting Covid. I was further deterred by the difficulty of gaining entry to establishments at the beginning of the pandemic. Even establishments where I was a known regular became suspicious that I might be a walking Covid carrier.
Anyway, the situation in Seoul has changed somewhat since the time before the pandemic and has changed again since the early days of the pandemic.
Since late 2020, I've returned to my all my regular places and managed to find a few new ones. I've detailed my experiences below.
Cheonho RLD closed for good. The area was torn down to make way for a large apartment complex. Right before the area was demolished, during the final process of evicting the last of the brothels, a fire broke out in the area. Unfortunately, a few women died. The blame for the fire was placed on an old charcoal heater being used in one of the buildings.
MVP VIP Massage in Gangnam used to be a fairly reliable location. The women working there tended to be older, but they were fit and gave a good massage before moving on to full service. Overall, there were more hits than misses, and some girls even offered uncovered service. Recently, however, service at MVP VIP declined. The usual front desk guy, who I presumed was the owner or manager, changed sometime in 2021. When he left the quality of the women dropped. I visited twice in 2021 and both times the women were large, unattractive, unfriendly, and annoyed. I won't be going back. Let me know if you've had better experiences lately. Maybe I was just unlucky..You haven't been to the YDP RLD?
Good report. Do you plan to get a PM for better communication. I wanted to understand the protocol and some 'unwritten' rules that will help me get access.Regarding the unspoken rules, I would say to let the women take charge. This is particularly important on your first encounter. She may be anxious if she hasn't been with many foreigners. Or, she may may be a true pro. In either case, you'll be better off following her lead in the beginning. An anxious provider will become comfortable over time, and a true pro will do a great job no matter what. She might even do things you didn't know you liked.
One thing to remember about East Asia, is that this sort of encounter is a service, and thus it tends to follow a particular set of steps. The steps are meant to slowly arouse so that your total time is well spent. You don't want to be so horny that you can't enjoy the experience because you're so focused on the end result. Just go with the flow and let the encounter play out. This is what I meant above when I wrote 'let the woman take charge'.
First, you'll brush your teeth and get showered. The provider will soap you up and and tease you by stroking you a bit during the process. Some providers will even give you some head in the shower. If they don't give you head in the shower, it is because it wasn't listed as one of their free service options.
After the shower you will dry off and be asked to lay on the bed. The provider will then lick you up and down your body and focus on your nipples before gently blowing you. If it is listed in the providers free options on her advertisement, she will also suck your balls, lick your asshole, and deep throat you. By the way, the three activities listed above are in order from most common to rarest.
This whole service is rather slow and meticulous, and it's meant to be slow, so enjoy it. After all. Hyugetel literally means 'rest' hotel. This is also one of the reasons why I prefer Hyugetels to RLDs. There is no rush to finish. The experience tends to be more sensual, more relaxing, and ultimately more pleasing.
Now I'll explain how all this relates to cultural etiquette. When I used the word service above, I would like to clarify that I meant the word in the most transactional sense. You are literally paying a woman to do something to you. As much as you may want to do something to her, you haven't necessarily paid for that, and thus you need to ask and / or be tentative when trying. This includes kissing and pussy licking. Even if they are listed as free options, you want to check first and make sure it's OK in the moment. Don't let your immediate desire interrupt the flow of the service. Let the situation play out. You may want to immediately jump on top of the provider, and being horny who could blame you, but it's better to wait until the right time, which is dictated by the experience.
Then there are activities like nipple tweaking which are not listed on advertisements, but are potentially fair game. In the heat of the moment you might want to pinch a nipple, but it's better to ask first or try tentatively. Some girls are comfortable saying no, others won't want tell you to stop but will instead position their nipples out of your reach. And remember that not every provider is really into things like deep French kissing, having her pussy eaten, or nipple play. They are, however, typically more than happy to do things to you, and they are also happy to do it with you in all sorts of positions.
You may have noticed that what I described is decidedly not porn-like. If you gravitate toward porn-like sex and get aggressive, many providers will not like it. If you have a porn fantasy, you probably won't meet the right kind of provider on your first outing. However, those women exist and some / most women will become more adventurous with repeat customers.
Managers want their women and their customers to be happy. There are even a handful of websites advertising a gentlemen's discount. Providers who state to management that you were a polite and well-mannered customer will help earn you discounts on future visits. This seems to indicate that the women's happiness is a priority. However, those same websites state that women who get more than three complaints for not providing adequate service will be fired. So, customer satisfaction is guaranteed. But, in this context, customer satisfaction is the provision of service in a transactional, contractually obligated way.
In addition to these unstated rules, there are also clearly stated rules on each advertisement. In a nutshell, they state that filming and photography are not allowed, taking off a condom without express permission is not allowed, verbally abusing women is not allowed, being drunk is not allowed, and finally that it is impossible to make a reservation using a public phone (land line) or internet phone (services like Skype).
Happy hunting. Let me know if you have any luck out there.
Regarding the unspoken rules, I would say to let the women take charge. This is particularly important on your first encounter. She may be anxious if she hasn't been with many foreigners. Or, she may may be a true pro. In either case, you'll be better off following her lead in the beginning. An anxious provider will become comfortable over time, and a true pro will do a great job no matter what. She might even do things you didn't know you liked.
One thing to remember about East Asia, is that this sort of encounter is a service, and thus it tends to follow a particular set of steps. The steps are meant to slowly arouse so that your total time is well spent. You don't want to be so horny that you can't enjoy the experience because you're so focused on the end result. Just go with the flow and let the encounter play out. This is what I meant above when I wrote 'let the woman take charge'.
First, you'll brush your teeth and get showered. The provider will soap you up and and tease you by stroking you a bit during the process. Some providers will even give you some head in the shower. If they don't give you head in the shower, it is because it wasn't listed as one of their free service options.
After the shower you will dry off and be asked to lay on the bed. The provider will then lick you up and down your body and focus on your nipples before gently blowing you. If it is listed in the providers free options on her advertisement, she will also suck your balls, lick your asshole, and deep throat you. By the way, the three activities listed above are in order from most common to rarest.
This whole service is rather slow and meticulous, and it's meant to be slow, so enjoy it. After all. Hyugetel literally means 'rest' hotel. This is also one of the reasons why I prefer Hyugetels to RLDs. There is no rush to finish. The experience tends to be more sensual, more relaxing, and ultimately more pleasing.
Now I'll explain how all this relates to cultural etiquette. When I used the word service above, I would like to clarify that I meant the word in the most transactional sense. You are literally paying a woman to do something to you. As much as you may want to do something to her, you haven't necessarily paid for that, and thus you need to ask and / or be tentative when trying. This includes kissing and pussy licking. Even if they are listed as free options, you want to check first and make sure it's OK in the moment. Don't let your immediate desire interrupt the flow of the service. Let the situation play out. You may want to immediately jump on top of the provider, and being horny who could blame you, but it's better to wait until the right time, which is dictated by the experience.
Then there are activities like nipple tweaking which are not listed on advertisements, but are potentially fair game. In the heat of the moment you might want to pinch a nipple, but it's better to ask first or try tentatively. Some girls are comfortable saying no, others won't want tell you to stop but will instead position their nipples out of your reach. And remember that not every provider is really into things like deep French kissing, having her pussy eaten, or nipple play. They are, however, typically more than happy to do things to you, and they are also happy to do it with you in all sorts of positions.
You may have noticed that what I described is decidedly not porn-like. If you gravitate toward porn-like sex and get aggressive, many providers will not like it. If you have a porn fantasy, you probably won't meet the right kind of provider on your first outing. However, those women exist and some / most women will become more adventurous with repeat customers.
Managers want their women and their customers to be happy. There are even a handful of websites advertising a gentlemen's discount. Providers who state to management that you were a polite and well-mannered customer will help earn you discounts on future visits. This seems to indicate that the women's happiness is a priority. However, those same websites state that women who get more than three complaints for not providing adequate service will be fired. So, customer satisfaction is guaranteed. But, in this context, customer satisfaction is the provision of service in a transactional, contractually obligated way.
In addition to these unstated rules, there are also clearly stated rules on each advertisement. In a nutshell, they state that filming and photography are not allowed, taking off a condom without express permission is not allowed, verbally abusing women is not allowed, being drunk is not allowed, and finally that it is impossible to make a reservation using a public phone (land line) or internet phone (services like Skype).
Happy hunting. Let me know if you have any luck out there.Nice info!
But the part about the girls getting fired is probably just to make the customer feel confident about visiting there. Also I'm sure there are TONS of drunk korean men going there as getting Hyguetel service makea a lot of there money at night from gjys who have been drinking.
I tried a Gunma in Songpa gu. PM me for the details.
Not a good experience. The deal was struck at 90 k won. I went to the place and was ushered in. The massage was totally namesake. The provider was a decent girl but way too inexperienced and she told me so. Early 20's if I were to hazard a guess. After the namesake massage, it was all extras, 30 k for top access, 30 k for he and so on. The girl was totally new to this and not at all service oriented. Kept pushing back and saying no to everything.
The description provided by BonJovi3 in his Gunma section is totally not correct. It's a very basic fully clothed massage with a little bit of teasing involved. Nothing more.
Including the extras I spent 150 k, however I think a well known Anma like Gain, Castle, Gold etc would be a much better bet for the price they charge as well as much better value for money.
I will experiment those and provide a report.
Gunma's are not worth the price at all. Neither a good massage nor a good he.I'm sorry that you had a bad Gunma experience.
Can I ask whether you made an appointment using one of the websites listed in this forum when you had your encounter? Reading for clues in your report, I would guess that you had walk-in service at a regular massage shop, because from what I know there is no way to 'make a deal' at a real Gunma. The prices listed, 110,000 won for 60 minutes, are firm, and customers don't negotiate with the provider. The money is for 60 minutes total time, meaning there isn't a 60 minute massage plus extra time for HJ / BJ. It's more like 5 minute small talk, 5 minute shower, and 15-20 minute back massage, followed by service as described in the previous post until completion. Then quickly shower up and leave.
I've had my fair share of bad experiences in Korea as well, but every time I've booked through one of the web advertisements, I've had nothing but a good time. What they offer is pretty standard.
If, however, you walk in to a massage shop that does not explicitly offer extras, the providers will offer what you paid for first (a 60 minute massage), and then ask for extra money for any extra services provided, and as you stated they will be fairly expensive because you will need to pay for a higher tier of service as well as the extra time it takes to get there. Also, if you ask for service mid-massage, they will ask for even more because they know you're horny already and more likely to agree to any price. If you use walk-in massage services, don't be afraid to ask the owner / manager whether extras are allowed the moment you walk in. They won't be surprised that you would ask. I've been known to be even more blunt and ask whether sex is allowed. After being told no, and turning to walk away, a some places called out to me that sex wasn't allowed, but handjobs were part of the deal. In a lot of massage shops, this is the norm. However, it's important to clarify what you want and how much it costs, before you pay.
Also, as an extra note, if you look through the Gunma advertisements, look at the backgrounds of the photos. If all the advertised women take their individual photos in the same room with a narrow massage table, it means they work from a real massage shop. If, however, the pictures are taken in a bed or on a sofa, the providers will work out of an officetel somewhere. I prefer the latter, as they offer more comfort, more intimacy, and more privacy.
I hope you next experience goes well.
Also, I didn't know that the Anmas offered service that cheaply. I was also under the impression that most Anmas did not accept non-Asian customers. Being white and being relatively cheap, I have never even tried to enter an Anma before.
You haven't been to the YDP RLD?I've never been to YDP RLD before. I've always lived closer to other RLDs and based on information in this forum, not many people have had great things to say about YDP. What was your experience like?
Cheonho was good before it closed.
Miari is still good if you want uncovered service, but the facilities are worn out and youngest women seem to be in their mid 30's.
I haven't been to Suwon RLD in years because its a long commute, but I am curious whether it is still in action. I know this is the Seoul forum, but if anyone can confirm that Suwon is still open, I would appreciate it.
Thanks for the info! Doesn't sound like the most fun from how you describe it but it'll probably be worth a try at least once. 240 is a lot less than I was expecting. One thing I'm confused about is the food and drinks. You tip the guy 10 but don't they also charge you extra every time they bring it in or is the 240 all inclusive of food drinks and girls' service?It's 240 upfront for the room and girl with all the food and drinks included. Then every 10 minutes after, someone comes in with more food and drinks and you got to tip them 10. They'll come in another 4-5 times, so you're tipping them 10 every time they come. Then when you go to the room, you got to tip the guy that leads you to the room. So if you go with friends, you can split the cost of the tips.
Some rooms you fuck the girls with your friends in the room itself. Just imagine a noraebang orgy but you stick with the girl that you partner up with.
Time is 2 hours and 2nd hour is when they strip down LOL.Luckily we didn't go to that type. It felt a little awkward for all of us getting a BJ in the same room, but I'm not going to pass up getting blown from a hot girl LOL.
Luckily we didn't go to that type. It felt a little awkward for all of us getting a BJ in the same room, but I'm not going to pass up getting blown from a hot girl LOL.Yeah it would awkward for sure the first time but most Korean friends who are close with each other think its pretty normal. They even wash naked at saunas together so they couldnt care less.
I pity the girls, or maybe they don't even care, that have to start having to blow sweaty business men who have been working all day without wiping down. Girls literally pour beer on their cocks to sterilize LOL. Makes covid sterilization look like a joke.
I'm sorry that you had a bad Gunma experience.
Can I ask whether you made an appointment using one of the websites listed in this forum when you had your encounter? Reading for clues in your report, I would guess that you had walk-in service at a regular massage shop, because from what I know there is no way to 'make a deal' at a real Gunma. The prices listed, 110,000 won for 60 minutes, are firm, and customers don't negotiate with the provider. The money is for 60 minutes total time, meaning there isn't a 60 minute massage plus extra time for HJ / BJ. It's more like 5 minute small talk, 5 minute shower, and 15-20 minute back massage, followed by service as described in the previous post until completion. Then quickly shower up and leave.
I've had my fair share of bad experiences in Korea as well, but every time I've booked through one of the web advertisements, I've had nothing but a good time. What they offer is pretty standard..I very much booked from a web ad. It was gunmalove dot com.
It was definitely not a regular massage shop. It was an officetel and I had to go inside an apartment complex. Not sure which websites are listed here on this forum that explicitly provide the service that you mentioned in your post. Please share the list of sites where it guarantees a good experience and not fleece you for extras after going inside. It was a bad miss for me I guess.
I have been offered entry into multiple Anma. The cost quoted is 300 k. Which is double of what I paid. For a lousy experience.
I will try out an anma next and share the report.
Nice info!
But the part about the girls getting fired is probably just to make the customer feel confident about visiting there. Also I'm sure there are TONS of drunk korean men going there as getting Hyguetel service makea a lot of there money at night from gjys who have been drinking.I'm sure some guys visit after drinking, but if they are actually drunk they aren't allowed in. These places get enough business that they can afford to bar bad customers.
Also, I'm certain that these places fire bad providers. Good service is a really important part of Korean consumer culture. Koreans don't joke around when it comes to customer satisfaction, and it stands to reason that the same rules that apply to every other successful service oriented business would apply here as well. These businesses rely on positive user reviews to generate new customers and they also rely on good experiences to create repeat customers. The most popular places are extremely professional.
No doubt there are unscrupulous managers, bad businesses, and women who would rather not be working, but considering how accepted this activity is in Korean culture (illegal, but totally normal), I'm certain that typical business practices apply. Like workers in any industry, the women are not irreplaceable. And believe me when I say that most customers in Korea expect the same quality of service at a Hyugetel that they would receive from a department store.
Nice info!
But the part about the girls getting fired is probably just to make the customer feel confident about visiting there. Also I'm sure there are TONS of drunk korean men going there as getting Hyguetel service makea a lot of there money at night from gjys who have been drinking.I'm sure some guys visit after drinking, but if they are actually drunk they aren't allowed. These places get enough business that they can afford to bar bad customers. It's partly why so few of them will accept non-Korean customers. They simply don't need the potential hassle of dealing with non-Koreans when there are plenty of Koreans willing to play.
Also, I'm certain that these places fire bad providers. Good service is a really important part of Korean consumer culture. Koreans don't joke around when it comes to customer satisfaction, and it stands to reason that the same rules that apply to every other successful service oriented business would apply to these businesses as well. These businesses rely on positive user reviews to generate new customers and they also rely on good experiences to create repeat customers. As a result the popular places are extremely professional. They have clean rooms, clean bedding, fresh towels, and attractive and willing providers.
No doubt there are unscrupulous managers, bad businesses, and women who have bad attitudes, but considering how accepted this activity is in Korean culture (illegal, but totally normal), typical business practices apply. In other words, in the regular world, there are also bad managers, businesses, and workers. Likewise, they will go out of business if they offer an unacceptable standard of service or maintain a workforce that doesn't perform. Just like workers in any industry, the women that work at Hyugetels are not irreplaceable. There's simply too much competition to maintain a shitty business.
Traveling John #2
01-28-22, 15:26
I've never been to YDP RLD before. I've always lived closer to other RLDs and based on information in this forum, not many people have had great things to say about YDP. What was your experience like?
Cheonho was good before it closed.
Miari is still good if you want uncovered service, but the facilities are worn out and youngest women seem to be in their mid 30's.
I haven't been to Suwon RLD in years because its a long commute, but I am curious whether it is still in action. I know this is the Seoul forum, but if anyone can confirm that Suwon is still open, I would appreciate it.I have seen many RLDs in Korea. My guess and maybe from some readings there are a few smaller ones in towns I have not been.
It has been said for foreigners f. Weekdays are better than weekends. And slow days the girl might be more open to f. But yes more girls on weekends and later in evening.
Suwon is gone. Or at least most of it. Construction started and main area was gone. It was the best foreigner spot. Now the other areas are getting more foreigners so maybe those will start to be more excepting.
YDP- the area between the mall and station road has older less attractive women that are open to FS. Service is good but the ladies might be in there 40's.
The area close to the mall is not F friendly. But 1 or 2 girls have offered service and they were not bad looking in their 20's /30's. Yes, the girl on the main road is attractive but she does not want to be fucked. She will do many things to keep from being deeply fucked. She is not horrible and because most of the others will not even let you inside. It is not the worse.
Dongducheon is getting older and bigger girls. But still F friendly.
Pyeongteak is just not worth it most days, but there are private rooms outside the glass windows with much older ladies 40/50's.
Wonju. Not a lot of girls and not open to F but one girl said yes for 200,000. I did not do it.
Paju. Have not visited in a long time and when I did not 1 place would let me enter. Day or night.
Mari was same experiences you have had. Which is also same has in Busan. Older lady lets you in and you pick. It is a pain too look in and say no. Girls look worse with clothes off but then it is really too late.
I very much booked from a web ad. It was gunmalove dot com.
It was definitely not a regular massage shop. It was an officetel and I had to go inside an apartment complex. Not sure which websites are listed here on this forum that explicitly provide the service that you mentioned in your post. Please share the list of sites where it guarantees a good experience and not fleece you for extras after going inside. It was a bad miss for me I guess.
I have been offered entry into multiple Anma. The cost quoted is 300 k. Which is double of what I paid. For a lousy experience.
I will try out an anma next and share the report.I've never visited gunmalove, and it doesn't appear to be online anymore. Can you clarify one thing about your experience. Did the ad list a bunch of women or just one? The ads that show just one woman typically don't include explicit description. Because of the lack of description, I always assumed that massage was the only guarantee and that extras cost more. There are a lot of these one woman shops that follow the same naming convention, I. E. 'girl's name + 1 woman shop', for example '51088;49828;48124;1인49397; These types of ads live on the Gunma listings, but if you can read the Korean, you will notice that they aren't overtly sexual. Therefore, I've never used their services. They only explicitly state massage, and I tend to be looking for more.
Even some of the ads that show multiple women, don't have any sexual descriptions. I always assumed that these would be waste of time too.
The only Gunma services I've used in the past (the ones where everything is allowed short of vaginal penetration and where everything is done to you while you lay down (as described in my earlier post)) expressly state the services offered on their websites next to the pictures of the women who offer the services. 역47549; means sucking and licking are involved. I think 부48708;48512;48708; is self explanatory. 하48708;50855; is non-penetrative sex. 똥44620;49884; means she'll lick your asshole. 입49912; can either mean BJ or cum in mouth (if it's at no extra charge it's just a BJ but if it costs more, it's CIM). And then there's 청47329;, which doesn't have an English translation. It's a bit hard to describe, but it's a BJ where the women sucks your cock going up and down in the normal way, while moving forward and backward (toward you and away from you) so that while your dick is in her mouth her head moves up near your belly button in one moment and then down between your legs in the next. So it's up down up down while she sucks your dick. It creates a unique sensation.
The Gunma I used in the past is called 설47128;. The women work out of the 선47497; area. I feel comfortable recommending this place because the provider who serviced me told me that I was not her only foreign customer. However, keep in mind that she teased me because my Korean was worse than her other foreign customers. So, if your Korean isn't at least conversational, you almost certainly won't get in, but I'll be happy if you prove me wrong. You can find the ad for this particular Gunma on all the websites mentioned in my previous posts.
I have seen many RLDs in Korea. My guess and maybe from some readings there are a few smaller ones in towns I have not been.
It has been said for foreigners f. Weekdays are better than weekends. And slow days the girl might be more open to f. But yes more girls on weekends and later in evening.
Suwon is gone. Or at least most of it. Construction started and main area was gone. It was the best foreigner spot. Now the other areas are getting more foreigners so maybe those will start to be more excepting.
YDP- the area between the mall and station road has older less attractive women that are open to FS. Service is good but the ladies might be in there 40's.
The area close to the mall is not F friendly. But 1 or 2 girls have offered service and they were not bad looking in their 20's /30's. Yes, the girl on the main road is attractive but she does not want to be fucked. She will do many things to keep from being deeply fucked. She is not horrible and because most of the others will not even let you inside. It is not the worse..Thanks for the update. I appreciate the report.
Traveling John #2
01-28-22, 15:42
I have had a few Gunma experiences. Each of my gunma experience was different. Couple of times, find a guy on the street take me inside and show me a menu to choose time and experience. Cost was 130,000, went into room and changed, shower and back to room. Girl came in and massaged and then sex. Used Opstar and paid 90,000 for same thing. And even just walked into a thai massage place and asked what was possible. One place used two girls, one to give massage and one for sex services. I have also had the hand and pussyslide finish. Felt real enough. Most places have been upfront about what is offered. I use translation app and try to be extra nice, even when they say no foreigners.
JustForFun1111
01-29-22, 04:57
The prices are clearly listed in the advertisements, so your best bet is to read them. If you can't read them, you won't be able to request what you would like anyway.
However, in the interests of trying to give back to the forum, where I have learned much, I'll explain the basics below.
Time is one factor that dictates price, but so is basic service as well as extras from the options menu. Most establishments also offer small discounts which are also described on the advertisements.
I'll explain by example below. Take, for instance, be course, which is a 50 minute, covered, 1-shot session. Most places list it at 100,000 won, and most offer a 10,000 won discount for customers who make an appointment before 6:00 pm. So if you want service in the early afternoon, you would only pay 90,000 won.
The 60 min courses are generally advertised as including 1-shot and 1-hand. So in addition to extra time, the provider will let you cum once through sex and once through a hand job. Some providers will work really hard to make you cum the second time. These 60 minute courses cost 110,000 - 120,000 won. If you want uncovered and would like to cum-inside your provider, you will need to add 30,000 won to the basic course price.Thanks. I can read so that shouldn't be a problem. I have more of a problem with finding these advertisements. I'm not sure where to look.
JustForFun1111
01-29-22, 05:01
I tried a Gunma in Songpa gu. PM me for the details.
Not a good experience. The deal was struck at 90 k won. I went to the place and was ushered in. The massage was totally namesake. The provider was a decent girl but way too inexperienced and she told me so. Early 20's if I were to hazard a guess. After the namesake massage, it was all extras, 30 k for top access, 30 k for he and so on. The girl was totally new to this and not at all service oriented. Kept pushing back and saying no to everything.
The description provided by BonJovi3 in his Gunma section is totally not correct. It's a very basic fully clothed massage with a little bit of teasing involved. Nothing more.
Including the extras I spent 150 k, however I think a well known Anma like Gain, Castle, Gold etc would be a much better bet for the price they charge as well as much better value for money.
I will experiment those and provide a report..I was a little surprised by Bonjovi3's description of gunmas as well. I've never been to one but from what I know they're more like massage parlors with he. Anmas technically are massage parlors but you're there for FS and I've been to a few like fish (I think is closed now) and one a couple blocks away and another at seoleung but I forgot their names. They were all pretty service oriented.
Perhaps bonjovi3 went to a surprisingly good gunma.
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