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I feel like if you just hit up the anmas, you're 1) more likely to get in as a foreigner vs having to communicate w / a booker over the phone, especially if you go off hours, and 2) they tend to be a little older in their 30's there. But others here are more knowledgeable than me.Prefer something different then anmas. They are too hit and miss for the high price.
MickeyDuck1208
12-18-22, 10:36
It was a let down. Braving the -5 deg cold, headed out around 9-10 pm and got rejected. Not even looking / talking to me. At most places. A couple of places they showed me 200 K KRW as the cost on the phone calculator. I countered with 100 K, but they would not budge. The ladies looked 30+ and not worth that kind of money in a RLD. So got into a coffee shop close by and warmed myself with a couple of coffees before heading back.
Thanks let us know how this trip in YDP went.
The sign says they're moving on the 5th, but the current location is completely torn apart with nobody there. At the new location underneath Mega Coffee, it's also under construction, so are they just temporarily closed in both places?
Also, the place is called Secret K, but it seems to also go by Kiss Time? They're the same thing right?
Are there any other Kiss Bangs in Hongdae besides that one? Isn't Kiss 7 closed?Anyone know if this place moved somewhere else or shut down? Are there other kissbangs near hongdae?
It was a let down. Braving the -5 deg cold, headed out around 9-10 pm and got rejected. Not even looking / talking to me. At most places. A couple of places they showed me 200 K KRW as the cost on the phone calculator. I countered with 100 K, but they would not budge. The ladies looked 30+ and not worth that kind of money in a RLD. So got into a coffee shop close by and warmed myself with a couple of coffees before heading back.Pretty looking ones at YDP actively avoid eye contact with foreigners. Atleast they tried to rip you off, but honestly 200 K for a 15 minutes mechanical session is clear day robbery.
Once a very pretty 20's to early 30's something girl took me in at 100 K but I never had such chance again over there. It's mostly ajhuma's 40 and above who don't get Korean customers that take-on everyone including foreigners.
SeoulSearching
12-23-22, 05:56
It's 90 k for 1 hour and 60 k for 30 minutes. And yea the HJ BJ price is switched. Typo. 21 kiss is 50 k and 90 k.So you spend 110,000 for 30 minutes and a HJ?
Are you serious?
Ed Haskell
12-29-22, 22:58
Didn't check out Miari or YDP?No. As noted, I always stay in Gangnam, so the north end of Seoul seems way off the map for me. Wasn't even familiar with YDP until reading some recent posts. And it was cold as hell to be wandering around.
I'm very comfortable walking all around Hong Kong and Tokyo, but I find Seoul more difficult to navigate, for some reason. Just a sprawling, traffic-clogged and unattractive huge city. I do love Korean women, though. Among the best looking and best service in the worldwide hobby, IMO.
LOL, I didn't mean help with throwing away 1,5 million. I meant as in regular action. Has anyone experience with upscale restaurants, bars, lounges ++ where you can try to run game meaning not pay your way to fun. As I said that chase has its own thrill: the.
When it comes to paying for it sure if you willing to pay whatever it's not exactly hard.Looks like I'll have to contribute to my own thread lolz, arriving in Seoul tonight.
2 appointments set up with VVIP agencies (900-1,3 M KRW each).
As always I am shit at writing up field reports so if you want one please be as specific as possible in terms.
Of what you want to know and I'll reply.
South Korea and Japan are obsessed with rules, rules, and more rules. And creepy cultural norms of an idea of "sticking with their own" even for their wh*res.Philippines and Thailand are dirt poor countries with shit flowing down open canals where millions of people scratch by in a most basic existence.
South Korea and Japan are some of the most developed countries in the world, surpassing western countries in many areas like education (and IQ), safety, infrastructure, health (including STIs and HIV), technology, internet coverage, internet speeds, improved sanitation and more.
The plain fact is that South Korea and Japan don't need or want you. So you can either adapt to what's available or stick to the third world.
SomeGuy2988
01-01-23, 19:32
Looks like I'll have to contribute to my own thread lolz, arriving in Seoul tonight.
2 appointments set up with VVIP agencies (900-1,3 M KRW each).
As always I am shit at writing up field reports so if you want one please be as specific as possible in terms.
Of what you want to know and I'll reply.I'm interested in if the photos and descriptions on the VVIP listings on the OP site are accurate. Also interested in if the girls provide multiple shots, use a condom for everything, do DFK, etc. I think the value of a forum like this is in just dumping the information that you wish you had known beforehand. Since you are willing to engage with the VVIP providers just writing about your experience even a little is a big help here IMO. Hope it goes well!
I'm interested in if the photos and descriptions on the VVIP listings on the OP site are accurate. Also interested in if the girls provide multiple shots, use a condom for everything, do DFK, etc. I think the value of a forum like this is in just dumping the information that you wish you had known beforehand. Since you are willing to engage with the VVIP providers just writing about your experience even a little is a big help here IMO. Hope it goes well!Cool, will do. One thing I am wondering about tho is how hard police is trying to hammer down on these activities. As it is per law illegal in South Korea, I wonder if they do any sting operations where they set up fake agencies through OP. Or is it just my imagination running wild?
Anyways that is one thing I wouldn't want to find out the hard way LOL.
So you spend 110,000 for 30 minutes and a HJ?
Are you serious?If you think that's crazy then look at the latest posts. 2 k on a couple of mechanical Korean chicks with surgery LOL.
Visited a Hyugetel in the greater Jamsil area again.
On this visit, I met with a very cute woman who, unfortunately, gave a very poor blowjob--she just sort of licked around the tip. Thankfully, she was hot and made up for the poor BJ by being an avid kisser. As an added bonus she let me explore her body, and had no qualms with me going down on her.
When I finished, she remarked that in the two years she has been in Korea, not a single guy had licked her pussy. I can't imagine that I'm the only one who enjoys slurping it up, but apparently Koreans don't do it or at least they don't do it with these types of ladies.
50 min BBFSCIP 120,000 won.
Nice list you made there!! Thanks.
Are there any search terms for say more mature women from say 35 to 40 in opigani? Sometimes its nice to have the hot MILF type who know what to do rather than a giggly 23 year old.Almost all of the OP advertisements list the age of the women. They are also fairly accurate. At most, some of the women might be 5 years older than the listed age, but this is only because the women has been working for 5 years and her information hasn't been updated since she started work.
In Korea, I haven't found that older women are any better than younger ones. It's more a matter of vibes. I've had good, bad, and great experiences with women ranging in age from roughly 19 to 50.
As a rule of thumb, my best experiences have almost always occured on second visits. I've learned that most women keep their guard up on a first encounter. However, repeat visits make them feel sexy, flattered, and unafraid. They always offer a better experience on subsequent visits.
Importantly, I never repeat with women who offer genuinely poor service, women who do not attempt to make conversation in either English or Korean, or women who don't kiss or who don't allow DATY.
And to answer your question, you can't search for Milfs because the ads are all image based. Unfortunately, it's a feature of Korean internet culture which all expats deplore.
Nice list you made there!! Thanks.
Are there any search terms for say more mature women from say 35 to 40 in opigani? Sometimes its nice to have the hot MILF type who know what to do rather than a giggly 23 year old.I should have added that there is a place that deals exclusively in milfs called 강 남 건 마 골 드 미 스 . They confirmed that they would let me make an appointment, so they might do the same for you. However, I never made an appointment and so I've never been. That being said, it's a Gunma, so full service is probably not on the table, but they should offer massage plus handjob service.
Enter The V
01-02-23, 13:59
Philippines and Thailand are dirt poor countries with shit flowing down open canals where millions of people scratch by in a most basic existence.
South Korea and Japan are some of the most developed countries in the world, surpassing western countries in many areas like education (and IQ), safety, infrastructure, health (including STIs and HIV), technology, internet coverage, internet speeds, improved sanitation and more.
The plain fact is that South Korea and Japan don't need or want you. So you can either adapt to what's available or stick to the third world.Third World is the usa.
Visited a Hyugetel in the greater Jamsil area again.
On this visit, I met with a very cute woman who, unfortunately, gave a very poor blowjob--she just sort of licked around the tip. Thankfully, she was hot and made up for the poor BJ by being an avid kisser. As an added bonus she let me explore her body, and had no qualms with me going down on her.
When I finished, she remarked that in the two years she has been in Korea, not a single guy had licked her pussy. I can't imagine that I'm the only one who enjoys slurping it up, but apparently Koreans don't do it or at least they don't do it with these types of ladies.
50 min BBFSCIP 120,000 won.I don't know how you succeed in convincing them into a DATY. In fact I love going down as well but they rarely accept. As you've mentioned, seems like most Koreans don't do it and whenever I ask, the women rather find it strange and most will refuse and others say they don't allow it cz it hurts? (Probably because they spend hours being pounded I guess LOL).
Seems, I'll need to explore more OP's. BBFSCIP with DATY at 120,000 was such a good deal.
Nice list you made there!! Thanks.
Are there any search terms for say more mature women from say 35 to 40 in opigani? Sometimes its nice to have the hot MILF type who know what to do rather than a giggly 23 year old.If you are onto milfs, I recommend you look at postings that include 1 or 2 in their name headings. You can find these under "Gunma) Section. These shops only have one or two older women offering massage services and / or FS.
But not all will be offering FS. They advertise massage but look carefully at the ad for a word "shot" in English or Korean.
Listed age for these shops is 35 and above but remember that the listed age will mostly end up being +5 to +10, even higher according to a Korean forum I once read about these MILF shops.
I don't know how you succeed in convincing them into a DATY. In fact I love going down as well but they rarely accept. As you've mentioned, seems like most Koreans don't do it and whenever I ask, the women rather find it strange and most will refuse and others say they don't allow it cz it hurts? (Probably because they spend hours being pounded I guess LOL).
Seems, I'll need to explore more OP's. BBFSCIP with DATY at 120,000 was such a good deal.I just ask. I probably get close to a 50 percent hit rate on DFK and DATY. I've never been told that it hurts, but women have told me they are too sensitive or ticklish. Others preapply lubrication and are simply sparing me the experience of sitting up with a mouthful of lube. However, on a few rare occasions, I've found women who like DATY and who also get wildly wet from it.
I don't know how you succeed in convincing them into a DATY. In fact I love going down as well but they rarely accept. As you've mentioned, seems like most Koreans don't do it and whenever I ask, the women rather find it strange and most will refuse and others say they don't allow it cz it hurts? (Probably because they spend hours being pounded I guess LOL).
Seems, I'll need to explore more OP's. BBFSCIP with DATY at 120,000 was such a good deal.90% of all ops / hyugetels / anmas usually all allow DATY depending on the girl. I personally don't like DATY or DFK with these gals but if you ask them to 69 or if 69 is listed, its usually a given.
Been fairing a bit of Vietnamese / Thai hyugetels lately for their cost efficiency! I can fuck the shit out of a girl unlimited shots for two hours and have them rim me / massage me in the down time. All for under 200 k.
GuyReynolds
01-05-23, 14:01
Tried a few places in the hill and Hongdae. Some success and some misses.
Itaewon, The Hill:
Pandora: Walked in and saw Nana, guess she's the only one working here as I went twice. Quoted 200 k and was able to get BBBJCIM for 80 k on first visit, then went back for CFS for 100 k. She's most def not bad looking 6/10, but the BBBJCIM wasn't as sloppy and great as its been said on here. She used her hand and lube too much, so maybe her mouth was tired as I went at night.
Nymph: I forget the girls name, but she was the only one there. Quoted 200 k also, dropped it down to 100 k for CFS. Also 6/10 looks wise.
O2: Only 1 girl, quoted 200 k, she would not go below 120 k for CFS. Did not partake.
Top of the Hill: Don't remember if the place was called Laury or XO, but she's been mentioned here before several times. She said there was another girl that also worked there, which I wanted to see before I commit to anything. She wouldn't show me pictures of what she looked like and would not call her over unless I committed to the session and price of 100 k. Decided to walk away, I know they don't owe me anything and I was probably asking for too much.
Ambrosia: This place looks like it's closed as there was a wall of boxes and garbage in front of their front door. Was really looking forward to trying this place out, only blame myself for waiting too damn long. If anyone knows where it moved to, please PM me. Wanted to try the freaky young Thai girl from here.
Texas: 2 ladies working that night. Went with the one who didn't look like a doll, a bit heavier but still decent. BBBJ then transitioned to a CBJ, 80 k. I like that she was slurping on it, the sound effects were just arousing LOL.
Went into the Grand Ole Opry bar and turns out its just a regular bar full of foreigners LOL was expecting it to be seedy and have some freelancers.
Don't know if anyone has tried Tiffany's, Apple, CC Bar, Candy Bar or the massage parlor on the 3rd floor across from Candy Bar / Apple all on that same road. But with all the Trans bars there, wouldn't be surprised if some of these I hadn't ventured into yet are Trans bars.
Hongdae:
Kiss place: Not sure of the name cause the sign is really faded. Went there twice during business hours, first time door was closed / lights off and second time was turned away. Was told they were closed by the desk clerk, not going to argue with the man and will try again next time.
King Thai: Found this place but wasn't sure the first time as I was turned around at the door. It has regular lighting at the front desk, which confused me as the places with extras here always have that red lighting when you walk in. Second visit I confirmed it was King Thai and was allowed in, girl and service was ok. Got a korean provider, mid to late 30's. Paid girl separately from what I paid the front desk, don't remember the amount but was under 100 k for the girl. This was my first massage spa in Seoul, so guessing a separate fee will always be done with the girl in Seoul in general? Could be how business is done here, seniors please correct me if I'm wrong.
Enter The V
01-05-23, 15:23
Tried a few places in the hill and Hongdae. Some success and some misses.
Itaewon, The Hill:
Pandora: Walked in and saw Nana, guess she's the only one working here as I went twice. Quoted 200 k and was able to get BBBJCIM for 80 k on first visit, then went back for CFS for 100 k. She's most def not bad looking 6/10, but the BBBJCIM wasn't as sloppy and great as its been said on here. She used her hand and lube too much, so maybe her mouth was tired as I went at night.
Nymph: I forget the girls name, but she was the only one there. Quoted 200 k also, dropped it down to 100 k for CFS. Also 6/10 looks wise.
O2: Only 1 girl, quoted 200 k, she would not go below 120 k for CFS. Did not partake.
Top of the Hill: Don't remember if the place was called Laury or XO, but she's been mentioned here before several times. She said there was another girl that also worked there, which I wanted to see before I commit to anything. She wouldn't show me pictures of what she looked like and would not call her over unless I committed to the session and price of 100 k. Decided to walk away, I know they don't owe me anything and I was probably asking for too much..Good to know I can get pussy in Hooker Hill still. Did you try Miari and YDP?
King Thai: Found this place but wasn't sure the first time as I was turned around at the door. It has regular lighting at the front desk, which confused me as the places with extras here always have that red lighting when you walk in. Second visit I confirmed it was King Thai and was allowed in, girl and service was ok. Got a korean provider, mid to late 30's. Paid girl separately from what I paid the front desk, don't remember the amount but was under 100 k for the girl. This was my first massage spa in Seoul, so guessing a separate fee will always be done with the girl in Seoul in general? Could be how business is done here, seniors please correct me if I'm wrong.Depends on the type of place, but normally for thai places or ones that pretend they're legit businesses, you'll pay the girl separately. Ones with spinning poles and / or red lights and usually older women, you normally pay / negotiate all at once at the front.
90% of all ops / hyugetels / anmas usually all allow DATY depending on the girl. I personally don't like DATY or DFK with these gals but if you ask them to 69 or if 69 is listed, its usually a given.
Been fairing a bit of Vietnamese / Thai hyugetels lately for their cost efficiency! I can fuck the shit out of a girl unlimited shots for two hours and have them rim me / massage me in the down time. All for under 200 k.I agree, the Vietnamese ones are damn good and cost friendly. There was my favorite where I used to get almost everything including BBFSCIP for just 150,000 with the most beautiful Vietnamese girls I've ever seen but they closed and I couldn't track them down again since.
I just ask. I probably get close to a 50 percent hit rate on DFK and DATY. I've never been told that it hurts, but women have told me they are too sensitive or ticklish. Others preapply lubrication and are simply sparing me the experience of sitting up with a mouthful of lube. However, on a few rare occasions, I've found women who like DATY and who also get wildly wet from it.I also figured them applying Lubrication before hand seems to be one of the reasons some reject. But I've also met few who love it so much that they even go beyond the allocated time to get more of it and get excited when they see me back.
I guess I'll also need to "just ask" whenever so I can at least hit even half of your success rate.
I haven't even tried asking for DFK with these girls yet, but it could probably be a wild experience worth a try.
GuyReynolds
01-06-23, 00:43
Good to know I can get pussy in Hooker Hill still. Did you try Miari and YDP?My understanding is those are the glass house areas. I have not as I'm sure I wouldn't get any services since I'm a foreigner, and based on what I've read on here I wouldn't want to pay 80 k or more for a rushed 15 - 20 min.
I'm interested in if the photos and descriptions on the VVIP listings on the OP site are accurate. Also interested in if the girls provide multiple shots, use a condom for everything, do DFK, etc. I think the value of a forum like this is in just dumping the information that you wish you had known beforehand. Since you are willing to engage with the VVIP providers just writing about your experience even a little is a big help here IMO. Hope it goes well!First girl:
Charge was 900 000 WON.
Her photos were accurate, contacted through agency listed on OP.
She was down for anything minus bareback (I am not interested in that anyway) BJ without condom, english level was good as my Korean is very bad. She was engaged throughout the whole session (80 minutes or so) allowed several rounds, we did it twice. Gave an amazing blowjob.
Looks wise she was really good looking and def taken out of a K drama type of girl LOL, as a comparison she looked similar to Bae Suzy which is a famous Korean actress. Body was out of this world. Did the whole DFK, GFE, allowed intense sex (spanking, deepthroat etc). Nothing really to complain about. But as I have said before I haven't really tried any of the other options so can you get the same for way less than 900 k. Probably, I have no idea.
Second girl:
Charge was 800 000 WON.
Compared to the first one this one was a bit more shy and quiet, but the rest was more or less the same. Looks wise she is similar to Kim Yong-Ji who is famous Korean actress.
I realized comparing them to famous actresses is probably the easiest way of describing how the look.
My understanding is those are the glass house areas. I have not as I'm sure I wouldn't get any services since I'm a foreigner, and based on what I've read on here I wouldn't want to pay 80 k or more for a rushed 15 - 20 min.In Miari it's common to get 2 shots at 100 K for 30 minutes. You can always bargain down to 80 K but you'll probably be getting one shot tho for a little less time.
Downside is, Unlike RLD in YDP, Dongducheon or paju, Miari ins't a glass house, you have to let the ajjhumas take you inside just to see the girls and it can be difficult to get out if you don't like the girl as some ajjhumas can get clingy af.
Enter The V
01-08-23, 16:59
In Miari it's common to get 2 shots at 100 K for 30 minutes. You can always bargain down to 80 K but you'll probably be getting one shot tho for a little less time.
Downside is, Unlike RLD in YDP, Dongducheon or paju, Miari ins't a glass house, you have to let the ajjhumas take you inside just to see the girls and it can be difficult to get out if you don't like the girl as some ajjhumas can get clingy af.Thankfully for me I'm not very picky as long as she has a ok face and opens her legs.
KMonkey1978
01-08-23, 23:43
First girl:
Charge was 900 000 WON.
Her photos were accurate, contacted through agency listed on OP.
She was down for anything minus bareback (I am not interested in that anyway) BJ without condom, english level was good as my Korean is very bad. She was engaged throughout the whole session (80 minutes or so) allowed several rounds, we did it twice. Gave an amazing blowjob.
Thanks for the posts! Any tips on how to get a reply from the VVIP sites as a white foreigner with modest Korean? I texted a 20 of them and no replies!! Thanks.
KMonkey1978
01-08-23, 23:44
I agree, the Vietnamese ones are damn good and cost friendly. There was my favorite where I used to get almost everything including BBFSCIP for just 150,000 with the most beautiful Vietnamese girls I've ever seen but they closed and I couldn't track them down again since.This sounds great! Any specific pointers to find the highest quality foreigner friendly Vietnamese spots?? Thanks!
In Korea for a bit with some work in Uijeongbu, so I decided to try Dongducheon for my first time as it was not far from there. It's good to note that the RLD is near line 1 Dongducheon Jungang stationnot Dongducheon station. The directions and maps in this post are spot on. http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1017-Seoul&p=2598491&viewfull=1#post2598491.
Some have mentioned that the selection was thin showing up early in the evening or on Sundays. Maybe that is the reason for my experience. Got off work in Uijeongbu at about 5 pm on a Tuesday and showed up at the Dongducheon RLD a little after 530 in late December 2022. So it was just getting dark.
I walked all the areas from the map in the above link and almost all the windows were dark and empty. A few others had lights on but no girls. Only 4 windows had lights on and girls. Two looked early 40's (late 30's at best) with face 6, body 6? (can never tell till the clothes come off). I passed by them at first in search of better. But the only other two booths open had the fattest, ugliest chicks I've ever seen in Korea. Can't believe they make enough to survive. Both of them waved me in but I ignored them. Did another round of all the areas but no new windows were open by around 615. So went back to the original early 40's ok looking ones, but got rejected by both. Not sure why. I'm not hot, but not hideous. Think William Hurt at age 45. I finally just gave up.
So no luck. Maybe it was as others have suggested. Too early in the evening. Not sure. I hope others have better luck.
In Korea for a bit with some work in Uijeongbu, so I decided to try Dongducheon for my first time as it was not far from there. It's good to note that the RLD is near line 1 Dongducheon Jungang stationnot Dongducheon station. The directions and maps in this post are spot on. http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1017-Seoul&p=2598491&viewfull=1#post2598491.
Some have mentioned that the selection was thin showing up early in the evening or on Sundays. Maybe that is the reason for my experience. Got off work in Uijeongbu at about 5 pm on a Tuesday and showed up at the Dongducheon RLD a little after 530 in late December 2022. So it was just getting dark.
I walked all the areas from the map in the above link and almost all the windows were dark and empty. A few others had lights on but no girls. Only 4 windows had lights on and girls. Two looked early 40's (late 30's at best) with face 6, body 6? (can never tell till the clothes come off). I passed by them at first in search of better. But the only other two booths open had the fattest, ugliest chicks I've ever seen in Korea. Can't believe they make enough to survive. Both of them waved me in but I ignored them. Did another round of all the areas but no new windows were open by around 615. So went back to the original early 40's ok looking ones, but got rejected by both..You visited on a Sunday? In my experience Friday and Saturday evening is the best time. Especially from 7 pm onwards. I have a few service oriented and good looking ones under my belt, whenever I find myself close to that area, I know who to look for. And you'll see most of the windows open on Friday and Saturday.
But It's a definitely a hit or miss on other weekdays especially in this winter, and Sunday might be the same story.
This sounds great! Any specific pointers to find the highest quality foreigner friendly Vietnamese spots?? Thanks!They appear and disappear, my favorite ones whom I had become a regular disappeared one by one. I haven't had much success getting into new ones lately. Now I'm just hitting gunmas for some action. Since they pose as legit massage business, chances of getting in as a foreigner increases. But girls aren't as young or appealing and pretty as in OP's.
SlimGuy619
01-12-23, 23:33
90% of all ops / hyugetels / anmas usually all allow DATY depending on the girl. I personally don't like DATY or DFK with these gals but if you ask them to 69 or if 69 is listed, its usually a given.
Been fairing a bit of Vietnamese / Thai hyugetels lately for their cost efficiency! I can fuck the shit out of a girl unlimited shots for two hours and have them rim me / massage me in the down time. All for under 200 k.Any chance I could possibly convince you to bring me along for one of those.
I'm down to MR and a few Anmas.
GuyReynolds
01-13-23, 04:05
In Miari it's common to get 2 shots at 100 K for 30 minutes. You can always bargain down to 80 K but you'll probably be getting one shot tho for a little less time.
Downside is, Unlike RLD in YDP, Dongducheon or paju, Miari ins't a glass house, you have to let the ajjhumas take you inside just to see the girls and it can be difficult to get out if you don't like the girl as some ajjhumas can get clingy af.Good to know, I thought it was all only 1 shot. I'll have to give it a try next time I'm up in Seoul and can get away. How is the interaction though? I know YMMV, but is it more misses than hits? Basically DFK, girl gets into a bit, etc. I know no one likes a starfish LOL.
GuyReynolds
01-13-23, 04:12
They appear and disappear, my favorite ones whom I had become a regular disappeared one by one. I haven't had much success getting into new ones lately. Now I'm just hitting gunmas for some action. Since they pose as legit massage business, chances of getting in as a foreigner increases. But girls aren't as young or appealing and pretty as in OP's.After reading this I browsed some OP locations. Wish they had a more detailed page so you can search for specific things, but can't complain when its free. There's a few locations that have Vietnamese providers, found some in Suwon. I'd look in Seoul but too many districts and locations, so don't want to put forth the effort. Funny you mention vietnamese massage parlors, cause I found one while randomly walking and exploring. I'll have to go and see if they offer extras now LOL maybe I'll get lucky and she'll be youngish. For those really craving vietnamese girl, Vietnam is only $200 plane ticket and 5 hours plane ride away. BBBJCIM is $20 with FS available at other locations for $50 - $100. Don't limit yourself to Korea, you crave an ethnicity or culture then just fly over there with a far bigger pool at a lower cost.
GuyReynolds
01-13-23, 04:24
Thanks for the posts! Any tips on how to get a reply from the VVIP sites as a white foreigner with modest Korean? I texted a 20 of them and no replies!! Thanks.Don't know if you've read prior posts, especially the ones from BonJovi, but its a hit or miss with foreigners at most of these places. Your best strategy is to just keep messaging a bunch of them and see who replies. One week they'll say no, then next week they'll say yes. Just be aware that when it's a "yes" then it's more along the lines of "we're giving you a chance, don't fuck this up" to paraphrase what BonJovi so eloquently wrote in a prior post. If you're really in dire needs for some Korean food then try MR. Lots of independent providers there, most are well below the 900 K price tag and look great as well. Although I have not partaken any of them yet, many here have FR about them. I'd read some to help you decide who'd be best and who to avoid, there's a couple you need to avoid that are written about on here but you're going to need to dig for them as I don't recall which ones specifically. Good luck!
You visited on a Sunday? In my experience Friday and Saturday evening is the best time. Especially from 7 pm onwards. I have a few service oriented and good looking ones under my belt, whenever I find myself close to that area, I know who to look for. And you'll see most of the windows open on Friday and Saturday.
But It's a definitely a hit or miss on other weekdays especially in this winter, and Sunday might be the same story.I went on a Tuesday btwn like 530-615 PM, near the end of December. Sounds like it was not the best time of day. When I'm in the country again, I'll have to try at the times you suggested. Thanks for the info.
In Korea for a bit with some work in Uijeongbu, so I decided to try Dongducheon for my first time as it was not far from there. It's good to note that the RLD is near line 1 Dongducheon Jungang stationnot Dongducheon station. The directions and maps in this post are spot on.
So no luck. Maybe it was as others have suggested. Too early in the evening. Not sure. I hope others have better luck.Later is better. 10 pm to midnight. Sometimes I would wake up at 5:00 am, go there bleary eyed, and have a better selection than early evening. YMMV, it's hit or miss. Good if you live nearby, not sure I'the take a train there unless you like touring.
I left Justin Trudeau's shitty Canada and I'm back in Korea and I need a nice rimjob, but the places I used to go are no longer there. Where are the best places to go these days for a good old-fashioned rimjob, preferably with FS afterwards?
Enter The V
01-15-23, 17:41
Later is better. 10 pm to midnight. Sometimes I would wake up at 5:00 am, go there bleary eyed, and have a better selection than early evening. YMMV, it's hit or miss. Good if you live nearby, not sure I'the take a train there unless you like touring.Have you tried YDP?
I make a reservation at a new Hyugetel. I tell the boss I'm a foreigner, and I let him know that I'm Caucasian. Things seem to be going well.
He sends me an address and a map screenshot. Great. It's right down the street. It couldn't be more convenient.
I call upon arrival and ask for the room number. The boss speaks to me in English and I confirm what he says in Korean. He gets a kick out of this.
I make my way up to the room. The girl from the advert opens the door. She looks worried; she says no foreigners. I'm confused. I tell her I have an appointment. She doesn't change her mind.
I walk out. I call the boss. He apologizes. He says the girl said it would be OK but suddenly changed her mind. He says to call back another time. WTF.
Have you tried YDP?I walked through about a month ago. Posted last month. I had one who would take me, others mistook me for Korean and wouldn't take me when they realized who I was.
BluePillow
01-17-23, 00:42
Hey guys, visiting Seoul for a couple hours before I take a train down to Busan to visit some family. I'm not very fluent in Korean (I look Korean though), and I've never been to Seoul before. Just wondering, is there a spa / quick place where I can just get a bang out, preferably bbfscip, that someone would recommend visiting?
I make a reservation at a new Hyugetel. I tell the boss I'm a foreigner, and I let him know that I'm Caucasian. Things seem to be going well.
He sends me an address and a map screenshot. Great. It's right down the street. It couldn't be more convenient.
I call upon arrival and ask for the room number. The boss speaks to me in English and I confirm what he says in Korean. He gets a kick out of this.
I make my way up to the room. The girl from the advert opens the door. She looks worried; she says no foreigners. I'm confused. I tell her I have an appointment. She doesn't change her mind.
I walk out. I call the boss. He apologizes. He says the girl said it would be OK but suddenly changed her mind. He says to call back another time. WTF.I know! It happens to me now and then. Sometimes you find an open-minded boss who doesn't mind having foreigners only to end up having to turn around cz the girl refused to burge. And other times you find bosses who don't want anything to do with foreign visitors despite the girls being foreigners themselves.
It can depend on the mood of both the boss and the girl and how business has been that day. You count it as a loss and come back another time for a second attempt.
After reading this I browsed some OP locations. Wish they had a more detailed page so you can search for specific things, but can't complain when its free. There's a few locations that have Vietnamese providers, found some in Suwon. How would you say about those in Suwon, it isn't far from Seoul. Have you tried to get into one them?
Good to know, I thought it was all only 1 shot. I'll have to give it a try next time I'm up in Seoul and can get away. How is the interaction though? I know YMMV, but is it more misses than hits? Basically DFK, girl gets into a bit, etc. I know no one likes a starfish LOL.I never tried to attempt DFK at Miari but yeah, YMMV. I remember one who couldn't let me go until I made her finish, whether I used mouth, hands or whatever LOL, she was active and interesting! And then one who wanted me to just pump and finish ASAP so she can leave and complained the whole time about how big I am. Then after she told me to look for her next time wtf.
I could detect a starfish and just walk away. If the mamsan recommends or points at a girl among many in a room but she barely makes eye contact or even smile a bit, she's more likely to be a starfish.
GuyReynolds
01-19-23, 16:17
How would you say about those in Suwon, it isn't far from Seoul. Have you tried to get into one them?Haven't tried them. Anything on the OP site, I usually go with my Korean friend, since he can complete the deal and they'll do the background check on him. Kinda messed up, but I like to stay off grid as much as possible and it's far easier for a korean than a waygook like most of us on here. We usually take turns paying, and just tell each other what ethnicity of "food" we're in the mood for LOL.
Also found a manager that was listed as NKorean during my browsing. That struck me as odd, I mean...what's the difference in pussy between North and South? I'm sure only Dennis Rodman could tell us that, but sadly he is no longer with us. (Sorry if I offended any hardcore fans on here)
GuyReynolds
01-19-23, 16:20
I never tried to attempt DFK at Miari but yeah, YMMV. I remember one who couldn't let me go until I made her finish, whether I used mouth, hands or whatever LOL, she was active and interesting! And then one who wanted me to just pump and finish ASAP so she can leave and complained the whole time about how big I am. Then after she told me to look for her next time wtf.
I could detect a starfish and just walk away. If the mamsan recommends or points at a girl among many in a room but she barely makes eye contact or even smile a bit, she's more likely to be a starfish.Thanks for the info, it'll be helpful for everyone to now certain signs before wasting money and time on a bad session. That's terrible salesmanship on the ASAP girl LOL. Did you get the contact info for the girl that held you hostage, sounds like she would be a good repeat.
Hey guys, visiting Seoul for a couple hours before I take a train down to Busan to visit some family. I'm not very fluent in Korean (I look Korean though), and I've never been to Seoul before. Just wondering, is there a spa / quick place where I can just get a bang out, preferably bbfscip, that someone would recommend visiting?Seoul Station and bbfscip? Good luck. Old hands like myself would hop in a taxi and head to Itaewon and Hooker Hill (about 10 min / 10,000 won). I get bbfscip there, but you may or may not. Other than that, maybe someone knows a huge tel to help you out.
I'm heading to Seoul in a couple of months for a work trip. Having read a bunch of the reviews here, it isn't clear what areas would accept a white foreigner who can't speak Korean and which wouldn't.
Seems like best bet is probably Hooker Hill for a foreigner. But I'd love to hit up a massage place or a kiss bar but those seem much harder. Any other advice for this?
I can confirm that Korean staffed OPs continue to refuse westerners. On a recent fact finding mission, I called nearly every OP that charges the standard 140,000 won plus at price, and I was shot down by every single one. One establishment even told me, quite specifically, that, 'We are sorry, but we do not accept western customers. '.
Is MR the best place to find independant escorts for Seoul?
Maybe I am just not doing enough research, but seems like extremely small amount of options in Korea for foreigners, at least at the moment.
I can confirm that Korean staffed OPs continue to refuse westerners. On a recent fact finding mission, I called nearly every OP that charges the standard 140,000 won plus at price, and I was shot down by every single one. One establishment even told me, quite specifically, that, 'We are sorry, but we do not accept western customers. '.Pretty pathetic where girls are doing one of the most demeaning jobs from a society point of view who are acting stuck up on their high horse pretending they have morals lmfao.
Thanks for the info, it'll be helpful for everyone to now certain signs before wasting money and time on a bad session. That's terrible salesmanship on the ASAP girl LOL. Did you get the contact info for the girl that held you hostage, sounds like she would be a good repeat.It's been sometime since I last visited, I had replaced it with gunmas where I get myself a full massage and service at the same price. Unfortunately, I didn't get her contact info and since they're always inside it might take two to three checks to find her again but surely she makes me want to give miari another visit one of these days whenever I get reminded of the session with her. She left me a tired man LOL.
Pretty pathetic where girls are doing one of the most demeaning jobs from a society point of view who are acting stuck up on their high horse pretending they have morals lmfao.Very pathetic!. Having spent much time here, I'm still yet to getting used to the idea of begging a working girl to take your money LOL. That was a new concept to me until I landed here a few years ago.
Over the years, I've gone into those massage parlors with the swirley barber poles where they gave me massages and either jerkjobs or full on sex. But sometimes I've heard dudes in other rooms / booths snoring. After pumping out, is it cool to just pull get under the blanket and snooze for the night and leave the next morning? If so, does that cost extra?
Pretty pathetic where girls are doing one of the most demeaning jobs from a society point of view who are acting stuck up on their high horse pretending they have morals lmfao.I don't think it's a moral issue.
From what I understand, prostitution in Korea is simply an inward looking industry. There are so many wealthy Korean mongers that they don't need to cater to foreigners. Furthermore, nobody wants foreigners getting involved in illegal activity. And perhaps more importantly, no one wants Korea to become a sex tourist destination. In fact, the government has spent a lot of money to promote a squeaky clean image to the rest of the world.
I should add that the women obviously don't consider the reasons above when deciding to reject customers. I'm sure the image Korea portrays to the world is the furthest thing from their mind. Their reasons to avoid foreign customers are language and culture. Dealing with foreigners is simply an added hassle, and considering that they already have as much business as they would like, the women don't benefit in the slightest by squeezing in another round with a foreigner.
To put it another way, there's more demand than supply. I asked one of the Thai women at a hyugetel how many customers she services in a day. Her reply was that she calls it quits after 4 or 5 customers. In other words, she controls how much she works and she gets more than she can handle.
Her response led me to believe that young Korean women, who charge substantially more for the same service, must meet even fewer customers.
Pretty pathetic where girls are doing one of the most demeaning jobs from a society point of view who are acting stuck up on their high horse pretending they have morals lmfao.True they work in 3 D jobs with the 'D' in all caps, but it doesn't mean they want to be reminded of it. Theyre still women and they want to maintain at least a shred of dignity. Besides, like the previous poster mentioned, they've got more customers than can shake a stick at, so we need them far more than they need us.
True they work in 3 D jobs with the 'D' in all caps, but it doesn't mean they want to be reminded of it. Theyre still women and they want to maintain at least a shred of dignity. Besides, like the previous poster mentioned, they've got more customers than can shake a stick at, so we need them far more than they need us.Shread of dignity? LOL. By rejecting foreigners who they claim are dirty to open their legs for drunken Korean men who just threw up on the sidewalk around the corner?? Yeah. They have lot if dignity LOL.
I've met Bella and Christina. Neither were quite my type but their pictures are mostly accurate, except that Bella has MUCH browner skin than in her touched-up pics. Maybe that's a irrelevant for you but it is worth mentioning.Christina meaning the half Russian / Asian girl with the really explicit title? Saw her ad but seemed like a lot of warning flags on that posting. She looks hot tho so if she's real might have to reach out.
SeekingFun2
01-28-23, 08:30
Hello Everyone. Am new to Korea / Incheon.
Staying in Incheon.
Would appreciate if someone could recommend good places in Incheon.
Only have a few days here and would not want to spend it on learning with bad experiences.
Am non Korean with no Korean language skills.
1. Do these Anmas / Kiss places / Hyugetel operate till morning?
2. Do hotels here have concern with female visitors?
Thanks in advance.
Shread of dignity? LOL. By rejecting foreigners who they claim are dirty to open their legs for drunken Korean men who just threw up on the sidewalk around the corner?? Yeah. They have lot if dignity LOL.Especially considering how much AR people have talked about in the Korea forums specifically, including myself. Sometimes the same women that lick Korean men's anuses refuse to even give physically fit foreigners a handjob because that's less dignified than licking poopholes of old fat guys who happen to be Korean.
Especially considering how much AR people have talked about in the Korea forums specifically, including myself. Sometimes the same women that lick Korean men's anuses refuse to even give physically fit foreigners a handjob because that's less dignified than licking poopholes of old fat guys who happen to be Korean.Exactly.
Guess the hookers have dreams of riding in these same old mens black Hyundai Granduers.
SomeGuy2988
01-29-23, 10:53
Christina meaning the half Russian / Asian girl with the really explicit title? Saw her ad but seemed like a lot of warning flags on that posting. She looks hot tho so if she's real might have to reach out.Her ad was explicit back when I saw her but seems to have gotten even grosser lately. I wasn't into her because she was doing a lot of dirty talk during the act to the point where it was distracting. Her pics are accurate though and her body is great. Face just OK but not bad. Could be a good experience if you're up for it.
In a new Hyugetel advert I spotted a woman that I had met at another location two years earlier. Since she worked there, I figured this new place would respond favorably to a request to book an appointment. Thankfully they did, and so I made an appointment. The woman remembered me and she let me know that I remain the only foreign customer she has ever met in Korea.
The first time she serviced me she was good, but on this more recent visit, she was great. She gave a great blow job with a full deep throat experience and also sucked my balls and rimmed me. And she did all of this willfully and happily. She was also fully on board for DATY and DFK. To top it off, she was very attentive to my needs which she showed by blowing my cock and sucking my balls between every position change. To sum up, the experience was everything I had hoped it would be.
30 min bbfscip 110,000 won.
Tried a few places in the hill and Hongdae. Some success and some misses.
Itaewon, The Hill:
Pandora: Walked in and saw Nana, guess she's the only one working here as I went twice. Quoted 200 k and was able to get BBBJCIM for 80 k on first visit, then went back for CFS for 100 k. She's most def not bad looking 6/10, but the BBBJCIM wasn't as sloppy and great as its been said on here. She used her hand and lube too much, so maybe her mouth was tired as I went at night.
Nymph: I forget the girls name, but she was the only one there. Quoted 200 k also, dropped it down to 100 k for CFS. Also 6/10 looks wise.
O2: Only 1 girl, quoted 200 k, she would not go below 120 k for CFS. Did not partake.
Top of the Hill: Don't remember if the place was called Laury or XO, but she's been mentioned here before several times. She said there was another girl that also worked there, which I wanted to see before I commit to anything. She wouldn't show me pictures of what she looked like and would not call her over unless I committed to the session and price of 100 k. Decided to walk away, I know they don't owe me anything and I was probably asking for too much.
Ambrosia: This place looks like it's closed as there was a wall of boxes and garbage in front of their front door. Was really looking forward to trying this place out, only blame myself for waiting too damn long. If anyone knows where it moved to, please PM me. Wanted to try the freaky young Thai girl from here.
Texas: 2 ladies working that night. Went with the one who didn't look like a doll, a bit heavier but still decent. BBBJ then transitioned to a CBJ, 80 k. I like that she was slurping on it, the sound effects were just arousing LOL.
Went into the Grand Ole Opry bar and turns out its just a regular bar full of foreigners LOL was expecting it to be seedy and have some freelancers.
Don't know if anyone has tried Tiffany's, Apple, CC Bar, Candy Bar or the massage parlor on the 3rd floor across from Candy Bar / Apple all on that same road. But with all the Trans bars there, wouldn't be surprised if some of these I hadn't ventured into yet are Trans bars.
I've given the hill a visit today as I had enough free time in the evenings and at around 8 to 9 pm most of these bars like Pandora, Texas, Nymph, O2, Tiffany's had no signs of operating. All lights were off Probably cz it's a weekday or something ain't sure. Around three doors at the top of the hill where bean and her friend works at green bar or something and one up the hill corner had lights on were welcome to mongers.
Over the years, I've gone into those massage parlors with the swirley barber poles where they gave me massages and either jerkjobs or full on sex. But sometimes I've heard dudes in other rooms / booths snoring. After pumping out, is it cool to just pull get under the blanket and snooze for the night and leave the next morning? If so, does that cost extra?I've never partaken in it, but its been offered to me numerous times. I don't believe it costs extra, might just depend on how many available beds there are and the time of night. Some thai places offer it too, but usually only if you pay for one of the more expensive courses.
Got in a Hyugetel at Gangnam that seems to specialize in big breasted women. Booked an appointment with a very good looking lady. She didn't match the photo on the advertisement, but she matched the description. True to their word, she was short and slender with big fake tits and a very cute face.
She had only been in Korea for one month and had all the hallmarks of a beginner. She was young at only 23, timid, and didn't talk much. She also didn't seem excited to be penetrated, nor was she willing to put on an act.
On the bright side, she never complained, and when she realized I would take it slow, she let her guard down and fully spread her legs. Although she didn't make much eye contact, nor was she up for DFK, she was extremely tight, didn't require any lube, gave a good sloppy BJ, and knew how to use her hands.
After I pulled out and cleaned up, she relaxed a bit more and wanted to talk, but at that point I wasn't looking for conversation.
50 min bbfscip 120,000.
KMonkey1978
02-04-23, 19:26
Been way too long but I'm back!
Have not been mongering much in anmas but GAIN (seems to be closed)
My quick MR writeup as an update:
- Elle you can two shot in the hour for 300,000 incall, her location moves according to her hotel and I think she is independent. Verified over video call too.
- Nami / Kitty seems to be friends and it seems that they are both legit. Kitty just 50 cheaper. Not sure on service but have not tried.
Has anyone seen punpun or Diana on MR? Trying to see them as well .Saw Nami on my last Seoul visit. Solid experience. Really great body. Inline with other posts, service a bit mechanical.
Debating between Elle or Bella for my next booking. Any advice? Both seem to be legit. (Slightly leaning towards Elle based on the profile photos but please let me know if service isn't great!
SeekingFun2
02-05-23, 04:31
Field report.
Went looking for Kiss Bangs in Sillim yesterday. No success again. Either most of them have shut down or are not in plain sight. Spent 2 hours looking for each and every location given in umap (visited each location twice to be sure). Only exception was HERA, which is easy to locate. However they said there are no managers (girls) available. Lost hope with Sillim.
Subsequently went to K+ in Hongdae (Date * K). About 20 min Subway ride from Silim. Get down at Hongik university subway. Exit Gate 3. Look for Mega Coffee (About 150 meters walk). L7 hotel comes on the way. Black door on right of Mega Coffee takes you to basement. Ring bell and get entry. They have no constrain on foreigners. Paid 60 k for 30 min. Had reached at about 7. 30 pm and all rooms seemed occupied. About 6-8 rooms. Asked to brush my teeth.
K+ has small room, which has a single bed having leather top. A young girl entered. Very beautiful. Might be early 20's and like a Korean model. Would be 9/10 as per North American standard. She asked straight away if I was looking for any services (HJ / BJ) or not. That put me off as I can get that in Anma and was visiting Kiss bang for GFE. I declined and she went out to fetch another girl.
Next girl comes. She might be late 20's and a little on healthy side (not heavy but voluptous). 8/10 as per NA standard. She was beautiful and knew good English. Her english skill made experience great. Her name is Guru (if I got it right). Her attitude was awesome and typical Girl next door. She was wearing a black dress (like a robe upto knees). Action started. Lots of hugs and DFK for 10 min. Hands were allowed to roam. Then she asked if I am interested in extras and that we should start deed. HJ is 50 and BJ is 100. I opted for HJ and she completed the act while kissing me throughout. She wrapped up once the act was done. Total stay of about 15-20 min.
I got exactly what I was looking for. Not sure if I got lucky with beautiful girls. Would recommend others to visit as well, if looking for GFE.
My next goal is to visit Anma and share learnings.
Saw Nami on my last Seoul visit. Solid experience. Really great body. Inline with other posts, service a bit mechanical.
Debating between Elle or Bella for my next booking. Any advice? Both seem to be legit. (Slightly leaning towards Elle based on the profile photos but please let me know if service isn't great!I agree, I liked Nami's greatly curved body and pretty face but service was more on the mechanical sid. Elena (Russian) was the best GFE I've ever had on MR but as someone else noted here before, her pics on MR aren't accurate tho personally I wasn't disappointed.
As for kitty I considered her back when she was still new and charging just 200 K, I think now she gets enough customers that her rate is now standard 300 K. Her pics seems legit, great body with nice tattoo tho her face doesn't attract me that much.
Haven't seen Bella but if you look into some recent previous posts, someone gave his opinion of her on here just of recent.
Field report.
Went looking for Kiss Bangs in Sillim yesterday. No success again. Either most of them have shut down or are not in plain sight. Spent 2 hours looking for each and every location given in umap (visited each location twice to be sure). Only exception was HERA, which is easy to locate. However they said there are no managers (girls) available. Lost hope with Sillim.
Subsequently went to K+ in Hongdae (Date * K). About 20 min Subway ride from Silim. Get down at Hongik university subway. Exit Gate 3. Look for Mega Coffee (About 150 meters walk). L7 hotel comes on the way. Black door on right of Mega Coffee takes you to basement. Ring bell and get entry. They have no constrain on foreigners. Paid 60 k for 30 min. Had reached at about 7. 30 pm and all rooms seemed occupied. About 6-8 rooms. Asked to brush my teeth.
K+ has small room, which has a single bed having leather top. A young girl entered. Very beautiful. Might be early 20's and like a Korean model. Would be 9/10 as per North American standard. She asked straight away if I was looking for any services (HJ / BJ) or not. That put me off as I can get that in Anma and was visiting Kiss bang for GFE. I declined and she went out to fetch another girl.
Next girl comes. She might be late 20's and a little on healthy side (not heavy but voluptous). 8/10 as per NA standard. She was beautiful and knew good English. Her english skill made experience great. Her name is Guru (if I got it right). Her attitude was awesome and typical Girl next door. She was wearing a black dress (like a robe upto knees). Action started. Lots of hugs and DFK for 10 min. Hands were allowed to roam. Then she asked if I am interested in extras and that we should start deed. HJ is 50 and BJ is 100. I opted for HJ and she completed the act while kissing me throughout. She wrapped up once the act was done. Total stay of about 15-20 min.
I got exactly what I was looking for. Not sure if I got lucky with beautiful girls. Would recommend others to visit as well, if looking for GFE.
My next goal is to visit Anma and share learnings.I've heard good things about this Hongdae kissbang for a while now about having no problem with foreigners. Having had many mechanicals in a while, I'm in need of some good GFE atleast once or twice. Will give it a visit sooner than later. Thanks for the report and clear directions.
I agree, I liked Nami's greatly curved body and pretty face but service was more on the mechanical sid. Elena (Russian) was the best GFE I've ever had on MR but as someone else noted here before, her pics on MR aren't accurate tho personally I wasn't disappointed.Pictures aren't accurate, but how different are they? I assume it is still a caucasian Russian lady at least right?
KMonkey1978
02-07-23, 08:31
I agree, I liked Nami's greatly curved body and pretty face but service was more on the mechanical sid. Elena (Russian) was the best GFE I've ever had on MR but as someone else noted here before, her pics on MR aren't accurate tho personally I wasn't disappointed.
As for kitty I considered her back when she was still new and charging just 200 K, I think now she gets enough customers that her rate is now standard 300 K. Her pics seems legit, great body with nice tattoo tho her face doesn't attract me that much.
Haven't seen Bella but if you look into some recent previous posts, someone gave his opinion of her on here just of recent.Okay in the end went for Bella given previous feedback here - 2 hours at her place.
Overall a very solid experience and I would recommend. Although the price is not a steal.
A few more details:
1. Very voluptuous natural figure. More Latina than Asian in character with lots of curves to grab onto.
2. Not mechanical at all. Definitely more of a date feel to the time.
3. Although I only do covered FS my sense is BBFS2 CIA or COF on the table.
4. In fact she prefers anal and COF (The only comment is she steers the session towards her preference (Eg great BBBJ but not nearly as long as I would have liked) and once she came she wasn't as into sex on the second round. (This is actually a GFE experience!
Among the limited options a very solid choice. Would repeat although will probably try another on my next trip.
SeoulSearching
02-07-23, 10:48
Tried a few places in the hill and Hongdae. Some success and some misses.
Itaewon, The Hill:
Pandora: Walked in and saw Nana, guess she's the only one working here as I went twice. Quoted 200 k and was able to get BBBJCIM for 80 k on first visit, then went back for CFS for 100 k. She's most def not bad looking 6/10, but the BBBJCIM wasn't as sloppy and great as its been said on here. She used her hand and lube too much, so maybe her mouth was tired as I went at night.
Nymph: I forget the girls name, but she was the only one there. Quoted 200 k also, dropped it down to 100 k for CFS. Also 6/10 looks wise.
O2: Only 1 girl, quoted 200 k, she would not go below 120 k for CFS. Did not partake.
Top of the Hill: Don't remember if the place was called Laury or XO, but she's been mentioned here before several times. She said there was another girl that also worked there, which I wanted to see before I commit to anything. She wouldn't show me pictures of what she looked like and would not call her over unless I committed to the session and price of 100 k. Decided to walk away, I know they don't owe me anything and I was probably asking for too much..Nana indeed is the only person in Pandora. She works when she wants, and said she doesn't want the drama of working with someone else. She's been at this job since at least 2004, but is still one of the better looking ones. I remember the days when she used to be difficult to get 20 minutes with. She was sh*t hot in her early 20's.
The bar at the top of the Hill, which I believe is the XO you speak of (I forget what name it's changed to these days) has a nice loft above the bar area, right? Last I knew, there were 2 girls working there. It's been a few months ago, but Nayoun / Nayoung? Is the mamasan. The 2 girls are both 40's and not bad looking for their age, but they barely seem to open anymore unless it's very late / early morning, and I'm not about to make a trip there without knowing they are around. There is a somewhat tanned 40 ish year-old named Eunee with small boobs but decent body who sometimes works there or at Tiffany's (when she isn't fired by the owner). I have a thing for Eunee, so I usually hook up with her and blow a load into or on her whenever I happen to see her working. Sometimes in summer she hangs out on her own near the cheap hotel around the K-bap place below the Hill. There is / was another girl named Lee working in the same place. She's from Busan, and is cute but a bit worn out also at least 40's. Done that, too.
Ambrosia is done. Roof caved in. Same with VIP. Condemned due to water damage, etc.
The Hill has become dirty, so I rarely go.
Attila The Hun
02-08-23, 07:45
Hey guys. What are the best places to visit when looking for young girls in their early 20's? What are the best websites for escort service? Any info on avg price range would also be appreciated.
Pictures aren't accurate, but how different are they? I assume it is still a caucasian Russian lady at least right?Yep, definitely Caucasian Russian if you're into that. Turns out she doesn't want her pics all over the internet but she's actually a fine Russian girl. I think she fooled MR verification by using pics that are somehow similar to her body shape.
She knows her way in the sex world and her massage after action is a must recieve!. Her teasing, sloppy BBJ, DFK is something I hadn't gotten before in over 3 yrs with these MR girls. I had planned to go one round but ended up asking for more LOL.
According to those I've met and some reviews I've read over here, I could say that these will be my go to MR girls for now if nothing changes.
Elena Russian (Met her and definitely recommend).
Valentina (Not yet but she's pretty and have good reviews, service oriented).
Belle (Not yet but I've read good recommendations here and on MR).
NanaVIP (hope she comes back soon).
Riko Japanese (may be).
Nami (Met her, great curves, pretty face, young).
Kitty (don't know! Probably in future).
Met several others on MR but nothing to write home really!
SeekingFun2
02-10-23, 04:30
Had a disappointing Sunday.
I am a South East Asian by origin. Do not know Korean at all. Anmas have a policy against foreigners.
DONUT.
Search for MAYA MOTEL in Seolleung on NAVER for location. OR 43 Seollung-ro 92-gil.
Exit Gate 10.
Wall has DONUT written in English in big Capital letters. Visited there but entry was restricted for foreigners and was shown notice on wall (Foreigners not allowed). Tried Singapore card but was denied.
FISH:
Search for following video on you tube "Guide to BPM entertainment building". Guy shows exactly how to reach there.
From Gangnam-gu office Exit2.
Same outcome again. Foreigners not allowed. SG did not work.
gain:
Went to their original location. Gangnam-Gu Exit 3.
Search for "Gain massage" on Naver and it gives exact path.
Shop is closed. No one there to take you to new location.
New Location: Seollung-ro 92-gil. Walked the entire street but could not find Gain. At the end of street one can find DONUT.
Any directions for new gain location is appreciated.
Will try with Fish and DONUT once again before I leave Korea.
Happy mongering guys. Do let me know if someone (non Korean, non Japanese, non Chinese) got successful with Fish or DONUT in last couple of weeks. Keep sharing.
Hello.
I am visiting south Korea in March. This is my first visit. Can any kind soul guide me where can I get action in Seoul.
SlimGuy619
02-10-23, 13:04
Yep, definitely Caucasian Russian if you're into that. Turns out she doesn't want her pics all over the internet but she's actually a fine Russian girl. I think she fooled MR verification by using pics that are somehow similar to her body shape.
She knows her way in the sex world and her massage after action is a must recieve!. Her teasing, sloppy BBJ, DFK is something I hadn't gotten before in over 3 yrs with these MR girls. I had planned to go one round but ended up asking for more LOL.
According to those I've met and some reviews I've read over here, I could say that these will be my go to MR girls for now if nothing changes.
Elena Russian (Met her and definitely recommend).How many shots did you get? Did she upcharge you?
I'd highly recommend both Bella and Valentina. DM me if you have questions.
SeekingFun2
02-10-23, 13:58
I've heard good things about this Hongdae kissbang for a while now about having no problem with foreigners. Having had many mechanicals in a while, I'm in need of some good GFE atleast once or twice. Will give it a visit sooner than later. Thanks for the report and clear directions.Glad I was able to cpntribute to this forum. Please do not forget to share your exp. If you have any ANMA experience, do share.
Magicmike403
02-10-23, 22:34
Had a disappointing Sunday.
I am a South East Asian by origin. Do not know Korean at all. Anmas have a policy against foreigners.
DONUT.
Search for MAYA MOTEL in Seolleung on NAVER for location. OR 43 Seollung-ro 92-gil.
Exit Gate 10.
Wall has DONUT written in English in big Capital letters. Visited there but entry was restricted for foreigners and was shown notice on wall (Foreigners not allowed). Tried Singapore card but was denied.
FISH:
Search for following video on you tube "Guide to BPM entertainment building". Guy shows exactly how to reach there.
From Gangnam-gu office Exit2.
Same outcome again. Foreigners not allowed. SG did not work.
gain:
Went to their original location. Gangnam-Gu Exit 3.
Search for "Gain massage" on Naver and it gives exact path.
Shop is closed. No one there to take you to new location.
New Location: Seollung-ro 92-gil. Walked the entire street but could not find Gain. At the end of street one can find DONUT.
Any directions for new gain location is appreciated.
Will try with Fish and DONUT once again before I leave Korea.
Happy mongering guys. Do let me know if someone (non Korean, non Japanese, non Chinese) got successful with Fish or DONUT in last couple of weeks. Keep sharing.I have similar experiences as you. I am ethnically korean. But born raised in Canada. I speak semi- passable korean and they still reject me! But like many said. If you go with someone who is actually from Korea, then they will probably let you in. Then hopefully they remember you for the next time you come alone. But they have short memory.
How many shots did you get? Did she upcharge you?
I'd highly recommend both Bella and Valentina. DM me if you have questions.Yah, Second shot was 50 or 70 K I don't remember well but there was an upcharge. I read here that Valentina upcharges 100 K for a second shot as well. Thanks for your recommendation.
Glad I was able to cpntribute to this forum. Please do not forget to share your exp. If you have any ANMA experience, do share.There's lots of ANMA experiences here in previous posts but personally I haven't explored that space again ever since I was denied entrance in FISH anma once last year and some other one in Gangnam area.
Some guys here have had their share of luck but it ain't me. Probably be East Asian or look Korean with perfect pronunciation for better chances.
You reported a sign notice of "No foreigners" at GAIN, Now it seems they're tired of talking LOL. But for reports, use search option to look into previous experiences of senior mongers. Goodluck!
Who knows where to get a Thai massage for under 50 000 won without making a reservation?
On the massage websites a lot of places offer cheap Thai massages but when you go there you can't get a massage at that price.
Today I went to King Thai Watpho in Hongdae. It's been reviewed here before. The website Massage Map advertises 35 k won weekday and 40 k evenings / weekends. I turn up and the woman behind the counter explained that's only if I call in advance. But I have a phone phobia So I walked out. Instead of paying an extra 10-20 k to the front desk for the legit massage I'd rather give that to the SP in the room during the negotiation for extras.
Also: last week I checked out a Vietnamese massage place in an alley southeast of Jonggak station, near Jongno. I saw it on a website but forget which one now. The name in Korean was something like Vietnam therapy. On the third floor of a narrow old office building in a smsll street where there are many food and drink places. My hopes went up when I went inside because the place was staffed by 2 Vietnamese women and nobody else and the girl who massaged me had a big chest. Basic massage is 80 k. But no hint of any extras!! No playful moving of junk or asking me about service. It just ended and she walked out. Maybe she wasn't in the mood or didn't like me. Has anyone had a different experience? I don't think I'll go back.
MMFgBangLover
02-12-23, 08:35
Another Yeongdeungpo rld recommendation if you're okay with slightly older women.
Directly opposite of the alley, the one with the old ladies in small booths, right in front, there's an amazon woman in a glass house. Big squishy silicone boobs, pink nipples, fit body. Think her hair is dyed auburn. She wears a pink or white tight dress, ass cheeks hanging out sometimes. Quite chatty in Korean. But you have to go up to her and ask, she won't call you. On the right of her, next door to that house, is the tan blond girl I mentioned before. If you want anything specifically you should negotiate. The service at this rld is mostly mechanical, unless you negotiate and they get to know you.
Comparatively she is quite a lot older to myself. Told me she was mid-late 30's. Might not consider that old, but at least she's not flabby and raggedy.
MMFgBangLover
02-17-23, 06:04
Met with MR Yuri Chicha, Jasmine VIP, and Saori. They're here together at the same hotel. They were giving a 400 k for 3 deal. Ended up going for Yuri and I recommend her.
They are all the girls in their pictures but:
Saori. Skin is a bit darker brown than her photos. Didn't speak much. Maybe her feet seemed bigger than a normal girl. Got me suspicious.
Jasmine. Much bigger than her photos. Not terrible but very thick and big face. Very talkative. Was getting similar suspicious vibes.
Yuri. Was in a seperate room. Looked way better than her photos. Not nearly as skinny, in a good way. She was a lot more womanly shaped, meaty ass and thighs. Silicone chest bigger and better than expected. Cute face. Nice skin. Asked her to surprise me. Dressed up, while was in the shower and did role play. Did all positions without worrying about the time. Some of you here like GFE, she tries hard. A bit over the top, but some might be into it.
Don't usually recommend on MR, however the experience was fresh. Yuri was young, cute face, hot bod. Hit the spot. A little too tight, especially at first, was the only con.
Met with MR Yuri Chicha, Jasmine VIP, and Saori. They're here together at the same hotel. They were giving a 400 k for 3 deal. Ended up going for Yuri and I recommend her.I'm curious how you found out they were here together? Had no idea and I even met with Yuri LOL.
Anyway I saw Yuri recently too and also Bella, so ill add some contribution.
Yuri. Cutesy type, pretty smile and her body has a nice shape, not just super thin. Not very talkative but really GFE lots of DFK. Would recommend. She tried her best to get me to pop a 2nd time but wasn't happening, not for lack of effort on her part. Oh and she may have fake tits, but they are nice ones not super hard. Was able to deep throat me a bit too.
Bella. For me, was not the best experience. I think she forgot about our meeting had me wait a while before sending me up after I arrived. No make up on, seemed sorta unprepared. Mouth didn't seem very fresh. However, if it is a PSE you want she is the girl. She prefers anal and lots of dirty talk. I wasn't able to finish due to my expectation vs reality and a couple other reasons. Because I didn't finish she actually told me I can come back and fuck her for free, I don't know if that would actually happen if I tried, but I don't think I will try it takes me a long time to get to her area. Overall, I do think she is what is advertised. A real nympho who will give you a PSE so if that is what you want I would still recommend her.
MMFgBangLover
02-18-23, 07:39
I'm curious how you found out they were here together? Had no idea and I even met with Yuri LOL.When I messaged Yuri that I was on my way, she suggested a threesome. I declined and then she offered a foursome with all three of them. I met them all at one of their hotel rooms. Then Yuri took me to her room, which was right next door.
StreamedIce
02-18-23, 17:03
When I messaged Yuri that I was on my way, she suggested a threesome. I declined and then she offered a foursome with all three of them. I met them all at one of their hotel rooms. Then Yuri took me to her room, which was right next door.Can anyone tell me how to find "MR"? Is it an advertisement in this place?
[massagerepublic.com]
When I messaged Yuri that I was on my way, she suggested a threesome. I declined and then she offered a foursome with all three of them. I met them all at one of their hotel rooms. Then Yuri took me to her room, which was right next door.How much did that cost you??
When I messaged Yuri that I was on my way, she suggested a threesome. I declined and then she offered a foursome with all three of them. I met them all at one of their hotel rooms. Then Yuri took me to her room, which was right next door.Was this at a hotel with a name starting with T and ending in a vowel, location near Yeoksam Station?
MMFgBangLover
02-20-23, 18:11
Was this at a hotel with a name starting with T and ending in a vowel, location near Yeoksam Station?No, the hotel doesn't match the one you're describing and Yeoksam Station was not the closest station.
Went to this previously talked about Thai massage place in Hongdae tonight. TBH I didn't go in very confident so if they were to give anyone a mediocre masseuse I think it would have been me. But that wasn't the case. The girl I got was pretty cute seemed to be in her 20's, but very little English.
90 minute massage, I was shown 3 options I just picked the most expensive one at 80 k since I figure that gets you best results probably. I cannot give a fair objective review about the massage because this is actually the first massage I've ever got. However, it seemed pretty solid to me and the massage itself was about 60 minutes including lots of touching down there.
After the flip I was given the 'service' options: HJ with no touching 30 k, second one I couldn't fully understand, and CFS for 100 k. Went with the CFS since she was cute but honestly would have been happy enough with just the HJ. I think I'll visit again and stick with the HJ unless the connection with the girl is good.
So I'll be going this summer to Seoul for about a week. Looking to do some massages as well as maybe a RLD if they are still going by then, and I will do some sightseeing of the city since I've never been before.
Any recommendations of what area to stay in or good hotels as far as nice places and good areas? I am probably looking in the $100-$250 per night range.
Enter The V
02-24-23, 16:46
Another Yeongdeungpo rld recommendation if you're okay with slightly older women.
Directly opposite of the alley, the one with the old ladies in small booths, right in front, there's an amazon woman in a glass house. Big squishy silicone boobs, pink nipples, fit body. Think her hair is dyed auburn. She wears a pink or white tight dress, ass cheeks hanging out sometimes. Quite chatty in Korean. But you have to go up to her and ask, she won't call you. On the right of her, next door to that house, is the tan blond girl I mentioned before. If you want anything specifically you should negotiate. The service at this rld is mostly mechanical, unless you negotiate and they get to know you.
Comparatively she is quite a lot older to myself. Told me she was mid-late 30's. Might not consider that old, but at least she's not flabby and raggedy.Do you have any reports on Miari lately?
Proprietary
02-25-23, 01:44
Has anyone met Lenore or Diana from MR recently?
22 Sejongdaero, Junggu.
There is a pharmacy at the 1st floor of the building.
Kiss bang is at the 3rd floor.
There is an outside sign of the kiss bang.
The sign is partially English.
Look for RED K in pink and red colors.
Good luck.
Any to be found in Jung-Gu / Namdaemun area? What signs should I look for?
I have done the MR thing but wanted to try something different. I am only in Korea for a couple more days. One day I will get the courage to ask my Korean work counterparts to take me out for a fun night. Would they think me odd, or is that fairly normal for them? Nobody has ever offered to take me and I have been to Korea often over the years. Maybe they would be afraid to offend me?
Thanks!
SomeGuy2988
02-28-23, 06:41
Has anyone met Lenore or Diana from MR recently?I met with Lenore a couple times when her ad was first up. The pics were accurate then. Unfortunately, I met with her about a year later and she gained significant weight. I have not seen her since, but I would say do not expect her body to look like the photos. She does have a nice attitude and is good company with totally fluent English.
I never met Diana but I'm also curious if anyone has any info.
Proprietary
03-01-23, 04:34
I met with a couple times when her ad was first up. The pics were accurate then. Unfortunately, I met with her about a year later and she gained significant weight. I have not seen her since, but I would say do not expect her body to look like the photos. She does have a nice attitude and is good company with totally fluent English.
I never met but I'm also curious if anyone has any info.Is she a little thicker or would she be considered fat at this point? Would you recommend her at the weight you last scene her at?
Enter The V
03-01-23, 16:42
This is the best video I have ever seen of this place. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWKwAP0c4jY.
SomeGuy2988
03-01-23, 17:25
Is she a little thicker or would she be considered fat at this point? Would you recommend her at the weight you last scene her at?It's already been over a year since last time I saw her. I remember that she had gained weight to the point that her face looked quite different. She really wasn't a sexy girl like before. She wasn't fat though. For all I know at this point she could have gained even more or gone back down to where she used to be. I would recommend one of the less expensive MR girls over her. If you do see her, please report what she looks like these days. Good luck!
Hi everyone,
[Deleted by Admin] I just moved here. I'm Korean but can't speak Korean well enough. Can anyone help me get into a hyugetel in Mokdong? I'll get you a time with a manager.
Thanks!
Met with 2 other MR girls.
Elena. Her profile got flagged because she uses fake pictures as mentioned here before. I still decided to see her since others reported she is real and similar to the pictures. I can confirm she looks pretty good, you can see her age in her face a bit but she's a very slim Russian lady, with shortish shoulder length hair. Service was good overall not over the top GFE but decent. She likes to sort of control the flow of things and she more or less stopped the actual sex when she was tired of it, which to be fair I was going pretty long having issues finishing. Probably wouldn't repeat personally I felt the chemistry was just off between us. Did 2 shots, but also I booked 2 hours (550 k).
Jace. Jace's profile is quite old now (6 years?) and I didn't see any recent reviews for her. But I wanted to see a Korean girl while I am in Korea so I reached out. Took a day to get a response, I'm not sure how much she is working these days, but we did schedule a session. She sent me a recent pic during our communications and it was pretty accurate. She's genuine. Best way I can describe her look is just pretty much a normal 30 year old (I assume) Korean girl (without plastic surgery). You can also see her age in her face a bit, but overall she is pretty and not fat. I was surprised how shy she seemed for someone who has done this 5+ years, but once we got into it the service was good. With her it is better to take the lead. Good GFE with lots of kissing. She asked to take the CFS slow, not just a rough pounding. Good session overall with the one sort of large caveat that she started packing after 45 minutes. To be fair I didn't fight her on it and was sort of done myself too, but I do prefer for girls to stay the whole time. I think she would stay the hour if you were more firm on it, but I wouldn't expect a round 2. Booked 1 hour for 300 k. Oh and her English is really good.
One thing that puts me off on MR is how many obviously trans there are on the "female escorts" section in Seoul.
One thing that puts me off on MR is how many obviously trans there are on the "female escorts" section in Seoul.Which current SPs at MR look obv trans to you? I can never be sure. That and the prices have kept me making any MR appointments.
Which current SPs at MR look obv trans to you? I can never be sure. That and the prices have kept me making any MR appointments.Without naming names, I'll just say that two SPs in the female escort section of Seoul have videos. They're both Asian. One appears to be legit female, but she doesn't speak during the video. The other one speaks in their video. This SP's photos were causing air raid sirens to go off from the get-go, but this SP's voice pretty much confirms the suspicions unless I'm mistaken. And I very well could be wrong here, but I doubt it. I'll add that there was another one that's no longer listed in the Seoul section that was heavily reviewed both on here and on MR that looked female in their photos but upon arrival at their apartment had a voice a lot like the one in that video, which caught me off guard and made it a wasted trip. In the past, I've always gone to massage parlors, waxing salons, and RLDs where I can speak with the SP to get a better feel of the situation and to make a more informed judgment call right there. I haven't seen anyone at massage parlors, waxing salons, or RLDs in Korea that didn't seem 100% female. That being said, I've never been into a Thai massage parlor despite there being several in my town. It seems like most if not all of the suspicious ones on MR are immigrants. The Manila section of MR, from first glance, appears to be even worse for having suspicious listings in the female section.
Any up to date recommendations for pickups for overnight?
What's the current situation in eg hotel bars? Any viable options?
Few years ago I think Hyatt used to have a few hanging around. But need a post Covid update.
I'll add that there was another one that's no longer listed in the Seoul section that was heavily reviewed both on here and on MRWell I believe I know who you are talking about, and I can agree they are somewhat questionable. To me though, if it is to the point that it is hard to even tell then I really couldn't care less. She was hot and looked like a woman, had a great time. If it turns out her was trans then neat, I'd sort of like to know to check that off the checklist LOL.
SeoulSearching
03-07-23, 21:00
Anyone have a report for Lyly on MR? Older blonde who is supposedly Italian? Do you think she looks to be what she says she is? Fee is only 100. Thoughts? Any red flags or past history I should know about? She does answer locally.
Anyone have a report for Lyly on MR? Older blonde who is supposedly Italian? Do you think she looks to be what she says she is? Fee is only 100. Thoughts? Any red flags or past history I should know about? She does answer locally.No experience with her but yesterday a new ad appeared for a 42 year old Belgium woman with the name Williams. Her text and price is exactly the same. Either they work together or travel together or it's a scam somehow.
The photos used in both ads are American pornstars LillyJamesxxx and Dee Wlliams. It's unlikrly that they would come to korea and be available for meetings at those prices so I am concluding both ads are scams.
I tried to go on Sunday but there was a note on the door with a number. I texted it looking for an appointment but got a reply that none were available.
Afterwards I headed to the one mentioned on this forum that's across the street from L7 Hongdae. There's an English letter K sign and it's on the second floor. Paid 100 k for an hour, and twenty minutes after I brushed my teeth a hot 22 year old Korean came in. She immediately offered me 50 k for HJ, 100 for BJ, and 200 for FS. Took her up on the BJ. Service was good, we made out and she took off her top and let me play with her boobs first. CIM and she spit into a cup then used the mouthwash that was right there. I think next time I'll opt for 30 min+FS.
Absolutely no issue with me being a white guy. Door girl even spoke basic English. Girl in the room and I only conversed in Korean. The shop is moving in October to underneath the coffee place around the corner. See photo for the sign outside showing where they're going.Hey SomeGuy2988!
Just wanted to check if you recall what that phone number was? I'd like to make a booking before going. Thanks heaps!
Hey folks, anyone have the phone number or kakao for Hot Date Kiss Room / Bang in Sillim? I'd like to make a booking before going in. Thanks in advance!
SeoulSearching
03-09-23, 11:14
No experience with her but yesterday a new ad appeared for a 42 year old Belgium woman with the name Williams. Her text and price is exactly the same. Either they work together or travel together or it's a scam somehow.
The photos used in both ads are American pornstars LillyJamesxxx and Dee Wlliams. It's unlikrly that they would come to korea and be available for meetings at those prices so I am concluding both ads are scams.Thanks!
Reported that. I am about done even looking at MR, anyway. All fakes and half are complete liars about orientation. Not to mentioned priced for suckers.
SomeGuy2988
03-09-23, 15:26
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Anyone know of any good English-friendly kiss room or lip cafe in Gangnam? I'm east Asian. Thanks!
MMFgBangLover
03-10-23, 07:07
If you walk the whole way on the only side with houses, across from the outdoor parking lot, there's a glass house on the corner before the street turns. Both that house and the one on the turn has 2 or 3 girls that accept foreigners. A girl with probably C cups and a cobra tattoo going from collar down to hip and thigh offered no con. Can't say about the service since I didn't take.
Could recommend a thin girl if you're into that. If you walk past 7/11 for a bit there's a house before a small out of business building. The small building has green shade. It's Between two houses. The glass houses have red shades. Anyway, that girl is thin with fat in the right places, small cups. Good attitude and BBBJ. Was the only one available at around 4 am.
So a couple of guys and I are going to Korea for summer vacation. Within the past week or so, one of your boy's was cheated on. So to hopefully take his mind off of the *****. We were hoping this trip, we had been planning for a year or so would take his mind off of her.
A few days ago, we met up at my place talking and were planning out the trip. One the guys asked me if I knew any good spots to go have a one night stand with a Korean chick. (Most of us are all single guys BTW).
I at the time didn't have any answers aside from at the clubs and had decided to look into it. So as I did my research about hook up cultures in Korea and what I found was the red light districts and then kissing rooms was the one that caught my interest. So I looked into and yet didn't find much as much of the articles about them was a few years old, dating before covid. Yes I understand it's wrong but we don't want this guy feeling depressed bringing the mood down. We already bought the tickets 3 months ago and the trip is within 2 weeks.
So my question is:
1. If I wanted to find a kissing room, where would I go and how would I find them?
2. Are they still open and at what times?
3. Will they be able to understand English? (My Korean is rusty).
4. Are the prices for the time and extras changed?
5. Are they safe overall to go overall? (Like what are the odds of catching something, are they clean as in the girls and rooms, and etc).
We plan on exploring or will try to explore most of Korea and was just wondering will seoul and busan have kissing rooms? This is new to me.
GuyReynolds
03-15-23, 16:44
So my question is:
1. If I wanted to find a kissing room, where would I go and how would I find them?
2. Are they still open and at what times?
3. Will they be able to understand English? (My Korean is rusty).
4. Are the prices for the time and extras changed?
5. Are they safe overall to go overall? (Like what are the odds of catching something, are they clean as in the girls and rooms, and etc).
We plan on exploring or will try to explore most of Korea and was just wondering will seoul and busan have kissing rooms? This is new to me.Best suggestion is read the forum, even stuff about a year old is still relevant and up to date. Are you guys dead set on kissing rooms? Cause although there's not many options for us foreigners, don't just limit yourself to that. I know there's one for sure in Hongdae up in Seoul, check that thread for good directions. Need more information to better assist you. How many people in your group? Age? Ethnicities? (Korea is a bit racist, so it might matter) Sucks about your buddy, we've all been there at some point.
1. Hongdae are of Seoul, college party scene. Seoul thread has directions, do a search or read a few pages.
2. Yes, not sure on the hours though. Per what I've read, should be open around 6 pm.
3. Yes, even rusty korean will help. It'll make them like you and do more than a foreigner who doesn't know any korean. But they tend to know some English, it will vary depending on the girl.
4. Have not heard of that changing, again this info is in the Seoul thread.
5. Not sure on your chances of catching something, I've never caught anything from any of the girls I've messed with here. They tend to be pretty safe, making you wear a condom and make sure you are clean, and are very selective on who they'll raw when it comes to foreigners. Korean men can get away with alot more, so I'd guess the girls get tested regularly as to avoid anyone taking something home to their spouse / GF.
Also check out escort sites and MR. Just my 2 cents, again, read back about 10 - 20 pages and it should both answer all your questions and give you directions.
My quick MR writeup as an update:
I am trying to see Cecilia very soon! Will post updates.Did you end up meeting Cecilia? I would like to get your take on her. Or if anyone else here did. She looks like a real catch bt lacks in the review section.
These are called VVIP places and mostly around Gangnam. You can probably search VVIP on opstar to get results. Bare in mind that these services are strictly Korean only. It's very similar to an officetel style experience but usually in hotels or something more upscale. These girls usually have real regular jobs outside and only service max 2 customers a day. If you want to try these places, I would suggest going the low tier ($700-1 k) instead of blowing 2-3 k as the girls are equally as hot, but the more expensive ones are only more expensive because of their jobs (small time weather caster / idol trainees / ex or current small time actresses). The lower rate girls are equally stunning but have normal jobs (student / internet shopping models / small time youtuber). Out of reach for foreigners unfortunately. It's definitely one of those experiences to have if you have money and are sick of those 5 or 6's and want to dip your dick in heaven The GFE is absolutely top notch and I highly recommend booking for 2 shots instead of 1, as the second shot is usually only about $150 extra and you might as well pay a little extra since your initial outlay is much higher.You still around? Looking to see if anyone can help me out with getting access to these places. I'm Korean American if that helps, my Korean isn't fluent but I can get by in Korea with it.
Enter The V
03-19-23, 17:05
If you walk the whole way on the only side with houses, across from the outdoor parking lot, there's a glass house on the corner before the street turns. Both that house and the one on the turn has 2 or 3 girls that accept foreigners. A girl with probably C cups and a cobra tattoo going from collar down to hip and thigh offered no con. Can't say about the service since I didn't take.
Could recommend a thin girl if you're into that. If you walk past 7/11 for a bit there's a house before a small out of business building. The small building has green shade. It's Between two houses. The glass houses have red shades. Anyway, that girl is thin with fat in the right places, small cups. Good attitude and BBBJ. Was the only one available at around 4 am.Past Midnight?
TimeToTravel88
03-21-23, 05:23
What is best sites to look for girls.
THanks.
SeoulSearching
03-21-23, 13:25
Did you end up meeting Cecilia? I would like to get your take on her. Or if anyone else here did. She looks like a real catch bt lacks in the review section.Will never know what possesses some women to get an ugly tattoo like that on their body. That paw arm tattoo is just so out of place on that woman. Not a fan of floppy pancake boobs here, but I'm sure some guys are into that. Pretty face, though.
Will never know what possesses some women to get an ugly tattoo like that on their body. That paw arm tattoo is just so out of place on that woman. Not a fan of floppy pancake boobs here, but I'm sure some guys are into that. Pretty face, though.Tattoo doesn't actually bother me but I agree with you about the floppy pancake boobs LOL. Cz of pretty face had missed them bt on a second look, ain't a fan of those either!
OasisSecret
03-22-23, 01:47
First off, I am no rookie. I know to read the forums. I am in the US and am a senior member there. I have played in Italy and Mexico, but I am traveling with a group to Daegu and Seoul in May and would like to try out the local talent. The language barrier is really intimidating me at the moment. I have done well in Italy, broken English plus the translator worked well, Mexico was the same. However, I am not even sure that I can find anything let alone negotiate price and services. Any tips would be greatly appreciated. My other question is about Daegu or Taegu. When I start to research the town, I find that there is a RLD, kissing booths and etc, but the Taegu forum here is basically dead. Is there any action there or should I just save my money for Seoul? The being a foreigner thing scares me. Everywhere else I have traveled has loved Americans. We probably get charged more, but that is fine with me. Also, Mexico is great for girls and your wallet if you ever get to go.
Guys,
I am in Seoul for 2-3 days. I tried to search kiss bang in hongdae for 2-3 hours. But I couldn't find it. Can anyone please help and pm exact directions or give directions on forum.
Magicmike403
03-23-23, 05:06
Guys,
I am in Seoul for 2-3 days. I tried to search kiss bang in hongdae for 2-3 hours. But I couldn't find it. Can anyone please help and pm exact directions or give directions on forum.Use navermaps. Look for Hongik university station. From exit 1, turn right on yanghwa-ro (first street). Then at the first intersection, look up and you should see a sign on the 3rd floor with big letter "K".
Never been myself. But, I did find it.
Any reports from the Hill in Itaewon? Last time I went it was like 2-3 places open, how is it lately? I'm going to Seoul next week and would like to have some fun there.
GuyReynolds
03-27-23, 03:38
Guys,
I am in Seoul for 2-3 days. I tried to search kiss bang in hongdae for 2-3 hours. But I couldn't find it. Can anyone please help and pm exact directions or give directions on forum.Magicmike gave good directions. Make sure you look up and focus on the signs, cause the letter 'K' is faded, but you should still be able to see it if you pay attention. It'll be on the side where the convenience store is at, don't remember if its a 7-11 or GS25. Across the street from that area, got to cross the road at the end of the block (has traffic lights), is King Thai Massage that has been mentioned on this forum. FS available, don't remember the fee off top of my head. Girl I got was early 30's korean, think other guys got younger Thais, so might just be a timing thing. You can also find King Thai using naver.
Any reports from the Hill in Itaewon? Last time I went it was like 2-3 places open, how is it lately? I'm going to Seoul next week and would like to have some fun there.Same. Pretty dead. Don't expect new blood.
I wanted to report of my trip of Seoul 2 weeks ago.
I went to DonutsAnma at 3 pm, it was relatively busy for a weekday. I got to choose my type of play, I did 2 shots, 2 hours, 560 K Won. The lady was really nice and was talking to me about my preferences and what I liked. The ladies I got were I say young 30's or late 20's, they were pretty regardless, my second lady found out I was on my second shot and she wanted to do a 3-some LOL but I declined that. Overall it was a pretty good experience, would recommend.
Now I wanted to report, I managed to get into VVIP on some Officetel and I messaged a couple of them. They said they accepted a certain type of foreigner, I won't say (please don't ask) but my concern was that they wanted me to rent a specific hotel and have the girl visit me, I am not sure if this was a scam or not because I thought it was incalls and not outcalls. But what I was quoted was quite expensive 600-3000 K WON 80 mins and there was not a foreigner tax as that was the price listed on their site. I mentioned I knew ZERO korean and they were completely OK with that. I didn't pull the trigger because I had a girl contact me instead and I went to hang out with her but was looking for insight on someone that experienced this, is this normal?
OohxTasty10
04-05-23, 10:38
I'm planning a trip to Korea and will be in Seoul in early-middle of May. I'm likely staying in the Jung-gu area. Where does a monger get started? First time wanting to monger in Korea. I'm pretty experienced in the US otherwise. What are price ranges like? How do I find the right places? Are there websites or online ads / posts for the girls? Is BBFS+cip on the menu? What price ranges should I expect? Do I have to know how to speak any Korean?
Feel free to reply here or DM with info, I'd greatly appreciate it!
Now I wanted to report, I managed to get into VVIP on some Officetel and I messaged a couple of them. They said they accepted a certain type of foreigner, I won't say (please don't ask) but my concern was that they wanted me to rent a specific hotel and have the girl visit me, I am not sure if this was a scam or not because I thought it was incalls and not outcalls. But what I was quoted was quite expensive 600-3000 K WON 80 mins and there was not a foreigner tax as that was the price listed on their site. I mentioned I knew ZERO korean and they were completely OK with that. I didn't pull the trigger because I had a girl contact me instead and I went to hang out with her but was looking for insight on someone that experienced this, is this normal?I managed once to pull off a meeting in an officetel. I know basic Korean. 2 hours 2 shots 650 k. Great GFE experience. Mid twenties Korean girl, very cute. Kind of my limit of what I'm willing to spend but totally worth the experience. Probably won't repeat.
I managed once to pull off a meeting in an officetel. I know basic Korean. 2 hours 2 shots 650 k. Great GFE experience. Mid twenties Korean girl, very cute. Kind of my limit of what I'm willing to spend but totally worth the experience. Probably won't repeat.Hey man,
Need this info. I know none Korean language, and I found it really hard to find those places.
Well, read on down the forum. Korea isn't so friendly to foreigners and difficult at best if you have no Korean ability.
And it has, only gotten worse in that regard in the last few years. The one foreign friendly place (Itaewon) is pretty much gone. RLD's arefew and far between and generally not friendly to foreigners. Anything else requires some Korean ability.
Hey man,
Need this info. I know none Korean language, and I found it really hard to find those places.
After my last post it got my mind curious, so I gave an OPI another run. Quoted 160 k 1 hour 1 shot. Not quite the same price as the other time, but also half the time and without options. Agency chief told me only some managers in his agency take in foreigners. Also, only way to make a booking was through a phone call in Korean.
Last time I was in Korea was 7 or so years ago and these establishments had gone down in quality but we're still around. I'm reading up on here and it seems they've been replaced with hyugatels (or maybe that's just the new name). Essentially it was walk into a building, talk to the host / ess, pay up (was about 200 k IIRC), describe the type of girl you want, then go wait in a room if no one is immediately available.
The rooms were like large one rooms. The actual girls room was half bedroom half wet room with a table shower setup. You have some fun there while getting clean, then finish up on the bed.
One place I frequented was called apple massage.
Anything like this still around? I'm gyopo and speak Korean but reading is a pain and I don't want to jump through VPN hoops and sign up for OP sites if I can avoid it.
OasisSecret
04-17-23, 03:07
Is there a Kiss room here? I know there is a hotel nearby. I am staying at the President Hotel in May and I am trying to figure out if there is anything for an American to get into close to my hotel. Would I be better getting an outcall visit?
Thanks fellas,
Stay safe.
SeoulSearching
04-17-23, 10:33
Any reports from the Hill in Itaewon? Last time I went it was like 2-3 places open, how is it lately? I'm going to Seoul next week and would like to have some fun there.Let me unload and tell you that Seoul has gone from one of the best mongering cities to the worst in a span of 15 years. It's so depressing. The prices are absolutely ridiculous -- especially for what you get. It's gone from sexy nanny to granny to tranny since Bushy started MP patrols in Itaewon, back then. All that's left are terribly overpriced experiences in random usually Korean-only places (where a few foreigners might be tolerated), and crappy massage shops with overweight Thais and old Korean women. Korea sucks. And not in an oral way. Oh sure, you can spend $500 on some semi-pretty-possibly-a-real-woman experience on Massage Republic.
Even Craigslist is one giant cock-block. I see one person who desperately places ads on there, only to see them removed quite quickly. I've tried a few ads, and no responses (there used to be some, pre-pandemic).
Sorry, I'm just depressed about it all. This sucks.
Last time I was in Korea was 7 or so years ago and these establishments had gone down in quality but we're still around. I'm reading up on here and it seems they've been replaced with hyugatels (or maybe that's just the new name). Essentially it was walk into a building, talk to the host / ess, pay up (was about 200 k IIRC), describe the type of girl you want, then go wait in a room if no one is immediately available.
The rooms were like large one rooms. The actual girls room was half bedroom half wet room with a table shower setup. You have some fun there while getting clean, then finish up on the bed.
One place I frequented was called apple massage.
Anything like this still around? I'm gyopo and speak Korean but reading is a pain and I don't want to jump through VPN hoops and sign up for OP sites if I can avoid it.Honestly, you can't get into Hygetels or Officitels without the use of those OP sites, since the locations are discreet and you need exact locations by phone.
The walk ins you're talking about still exist around the country, that's anmas, gunmas and the rest. For those, you go by without OP sites. Probably just looking through this thread for some info about anmas in Gangnam and what to expect in terms of rates and services would be a great start, even Google map or Kakao map lists some of their locations.
Tip: Since you're Gyopo (Look Korean) and can speak Korean, don't try to give off much vibes that you're a foreigner, that way you'll get the local-level service.
A recent article reports that in Hanam, Gyeonggi-do, a Thai Hyugetel owner and a handful of women were arrested. I wouldn't be surprised if this place was busted because the owner was a foreigner. It's pure speculation on my part, but I'm convinced that the police wanted a win and that Korean owners wanted their competition eliminated.
I've never used services in the Hanam area before, but it has been reported that the police found accounting records and are contacting customers.
http://m.kyeongin.com/view.php?key=20230419010003603
And in Sillim, there has been an even bigger bust. A burgeoning crime organization headed by a nationalized Chinese-Korean working with Chinese muscle was busted for forcing noraebangs in Sillim to use his prostitution network. With reports of violence and other forms of intimidation, this bust was clearly warranted. Good riddance.
https://n.news.naver.com/article/055/0001051968
It also seems that civic organizations, I. E. , bored housewives, women's studies majors, Christians with nothing better to do, and other assorted busybodies are seeking to place officetel prostitution in the sights of law enforcement. I hope nothing much comes of it, but who knows.
Good luck out there.
A recent article reports that in Hanam, Gyeonggi-do, a Thai Hyugetel owner and a handful of women were arrested. I wouldn't be surprised if this place was busted because the owner was a foreigner. It's pure speculation on my part, but I'm convinced that the police wanted a win and that Korean owners wanted their competition eliminated.
I've never used services in the Hanam area before, but it has been reported that the police found accounting records and are contacting customers.
http://m.kyeongin.com/view.php?key=20230419010003603
And in Sillim, there has been an even bigger bust. A burgeoning crime organization headed by a nationalized Chinese-Korean working with Chinese muscle was busted for forcing noraebangs in Sillim to use his prostitution network. With reports of violence and other forms of intimidation, this bust was clearly warranted. Good riddance.
https://n.news.naver.com/article/055/0001051968
It also seems that civic organizations, I. E. , bored housewives, women's studies majors, Christians with nothing better to do, and other assorted busybodies are seeking to place officetel prostitution in the sights of law enforcement. I hope nothing much comes of it, but who knows.
Good luck out there.This is good information. Thanks BJ.
I tried a couple of OPs in the songpa area. One is called Moon and the other stockings. Both seem to be run by a Chinese group. Absolutely hopeless quality and service. I had made an appointment for a specific profile. When I arrived I was given a completely different ajumma. Mid 50's gremlin. Terrible technique. Clearly a Chinese influence. I asked for a different profile but my request was denied.
The profiles shared are fake and the actual availability is of very poor quality.
Avoid like the plague.
I will keep trying new places and share an update.
This is good information. Thanks BJ.
I tried a couple of OPs in the songpa area. One is called Moon and the other stockings. Both seem to be run by a Chinese group. Absolutely hopeless quality and service. I had made an appointment for a specific profile. When I arrived I was given a completely different ajumma. Mid 50's gremlin. Terrible technique. Clearly a Chinese influence. I asked for a different profile but my request was denied.
The profiles shared are fake and the actual availability is of very poor quality.
Avoid like the plague.
I will keep trying new places and share an update.Thanks for sharing Buddy.
I just want to clarify that the two places you mentioned aren't OPs. They are Gunma. The difference is that Gunma are cheaper, offer massage, and specialize in hand or lip service rather than full service. A proper OP costs two to three times what a Gunma charges.
I've taken a look at the adverts for the two places you mentioned and I noticed a big red flag: not a single woman is showing her face in the adverts. I generally wouldn't recommend going to any place where 100 percent of the women's faces are hidden, because it's normally a sign that those women are models rather than the actual working women. If you want a good massage and a hand job, Gunma can be great, but as you noticed, the women aren't generally in their prime.
I would be happy to be disproven by someone who knows of a fantastic Gunma in Seoul employing very attractive women.
I want to add that I haven't posted any reports in a while because my sexcapades have become fairly routine. When I have time, I call one of a handful of my favorite Hyugetels, book an appointment, pay up, get serviced and go home. As I don't have much new to report, I've been laying low on the forum.
I'm looking forward to your future updates. Good luck.
Proprietary
04-27-23, 14:41
Does anyone know of any professional dominatrix in Korea? I've been looking for a while and have yet to find any.
a couple of OPs in the songpa area. One is called Moon and the other stockings. Both seem to be run by a Chinese group. Absolutely hopeless quality and service. I had made an appointment for a specific profile. When I arrived I was given a completely different ajumma. Mid 50's gremlin. Terrible technique. Clearly a Chinese influence. I asked for a different profile but my request was.Not related to Seoul, but first time back in Korea in 8 years. I went to a massage place in Pyeongtaek-si in Sosaebol. Probably a dozen spots in a block near the traffic circle vicinity of Krispy Kreme. The Chinese girl wasn't bad looking, she gave a nice massage and FS for 120,000 won. The place is run by gangsters, but the guy at the front was cool. He offered one shot and massage for 120,000 and two shots and massage for 150,000. I took the first option and when I left before my time was up because I had to run, he told me next time FS only for 100,000 and that they had lots of girls. I passed one on the way out and she looked even better, so I'll be back. $80 usd is nothing compared to the United States $220+ for a grandma.
ImJaehyun259
04-28-23, 18:00
Magicmike gave good directions. Make sure you look up and focus on the signs, cause the letter 'K' is faded, but you should still be able to see it if you pay attention. It'll be on the side where the convenience store is at, don't remember if its a 7-11 or GS25. Across the street from that area, got to cross the road at the end of the block (has traffic lights), is King Thai Massage that has been mentioned on this forum. FS available, don't remember the fee off top of my head. Girl I got was early 30's Korean, think other guys got younger Thais, so might just be a timing thing. You can also find King Thai using naver.What can be done at these kind of places? I've seen this one before but I've never visited it. I'm closer to gangnam and I've walked by Gangnam Karol a few times but I want to try it soon.
I want to add that I haven't posted any reports in a while because my sexcapades have become fairly routine. When I have time, I call one of a handful of my favorite Hyugetels, book an appointment, pay up, get serviced and go home. As I don't have much new to report, I've been laying low on the forum. Hey Bonjovi3,
As a senior in Hyugetels, what do you say would be the best time to try contacting and getting into new Hyugetels. I would reason Friday evenings through the weekend is a no bet time for new foreign customers since there's an influx of Korean customers during that time frame.
I'm of a view that weekday afternoons till early evenings would have the highest probability of atleast getting accepted into one of them. What do you say about that?
I always assumed Hyugetels are a no go for foreigners but after reading several of your reports, I think they're worth a good try atleast.
BTW, even when you have nothing new to report, your usual Hyugetel reports are always a fun and informative read.
Hi all,
New to the forum so apologies if there's any rules broken.
I'm a Korean American (30, M) heading back to Korea for the first time in a few years and also will have my own place in Gangnam for the first time ever. Usually I stay with family so haven't ever had the opportunity to explore. I've been looking into the Anma massage services and have found a few names that I can contact via kakao and telegram.
However, wondering if any Korean Hyung or expert can check my work and make sure I've done my due diligence right. Don't want to end up getting scammed, ripped off, or getting an STD. I speak okay Korean and can get by just fine if I have the time to type and translate but get nervous on the phone.
Couple questions I have are:
- are the links and contact info from places like yamap7 trustworthy?
- should I be trying the regular places like Tiffany and donut Anma instead? Or maybe even different services for my first time?
- are there other resources that I should be taking a look at, especially if I can read Korean?
Thanks in advance! Promise to report back on any and all misadventures.
Just curious, has anyone seen the tents and small rooms in the alleyway that connects the busy / public road with the RLD? Going through that small alleyway, there's a couple of girls there. I'm assuming they aren't as "pretty" and slightly older as the women in the glass rooms.
Anyone tried any of these girls here? What was the damage?
I went to a massage place in Pyeongtaek-si in Sosaebol. Probably a dozen spots in a block near the traffic circle vicinity of Krispy Kreme. The Chinese girl wasn't bad looking, she gave a nice massage and FS for 120,000 won. The place is run by gangsters, but the guy at the front was cool. He offered one shot and massage for 120,000 and two shots and massage for 150,000. There are lots of potential places there. Can you give a clue about which one you visited? The biz name or floor number or building name?
And how could you tell it was run by gangsters?
There are lots of potential places there. Can you give a clue about which one you visited? The biz name or floor number or building name?
And how could you tell it was run by gangsters?You can swing a dead cat and hit five massage parlors. One building has one on floors four, five, and six. I went back again this weekend, but was disappointed since the service was much the same. Unkempt Chinese girls just don't work for me, I need a clean shave. I've had great experiences with Chinese AMPS in California, but not so much here.
As far as gangsters, the volume and type of tattoos give it away.
You can swing a dead cat and hit five massage parlors. One building has one on floors four, five, and six. I went back again this weekend, but was disappointed since the service was much the same. Unkempt Chinese girls just don't work for me, I need a clean shave. 3 parlors on floors of the same building? Sounds like a cartel not competition. Are the prices and service offerings the same at all places you checked out?
And are the SPs that you saw all Chinese? I'd expect some Thai SPs in the mix.
Let me unload and tell you that Seoul has gone from one of the best mongering cities to the worst in a span of 15 years. It's so depressing. The prices are absolutely ridiculous -- especially for what you get. It's gone from sexy nanny to granny to tranny since Bushy started MP patrols in Itaewon, back then. All that's left are terribly overpriced experiences in random usually Korean-only places (where a few foreigners might be tolerated), and crappy massage shops with overweight Thais and old Korean women. Korea sucks. And not in an oral way. Oh sure, you can spend $500 on some semi-pretty-possibly-a-real-woman experience on Massage Republic.
Even Craigslist is one giant cock-block. I see one person who desperately places ads on there, only to see them removed quite quickly. I've tried a few ads, and no responses (there used to be some, pre-pandemic).
Sorry, I'm just depressed about it all. This sucks.Sorry to hear that you're having such a bad time.
Mongering in Korea is a young man's game with most of the customers in their 20's, 30's, or 40's. If you're much older than this, you've probably aged out of the easily available options. I hate to say it, but there was a recent trend among the online adverts where a selection of women have made this abundantly clear by writing 'No customers over 40' on their profiles.
From what I understand, pensioners living in South East Asia have similar complaints these days. There's much talk about the decline of the sex industry in Thailand and the Philippines, but the truth is that such complaints are a reflection of two uncomfortable facts: prices have increased and the most attractive women prefer younger customers. It seems that many mongers have forgotten the first clause of Mike Damone's famous saying, "I get older, they stay the same age. ".
Even if the male sex drive remains constant, the world changes. In Korea, almost all the best services are online, and though some might bemoan the shift, for most this has been a welcome change. The move online has made prowling a friction-less experience for customers, workers, and managers. Customers can browse and book a reservation from the comfort of home. Workers no longer have to actively promote their services. And managers get to hide their business from the watchful eye of the public. It's a win-win-win situation.
I particularly like the online experience because I don't have to wander a seedy neighborhood and negotiate with bikini clad women in pink windows. That doesn't mean there wasn't a certain charm to those sorts of transactions, but I prefer to arrive at a clean and comfortable officetel and know that I'll be with the woman I chose and receive the advertised services I will pay for. Discretion, comfort, cleanliness, and transparency are certainly worth the price paid.
I know it's not possible for everyone to access these services, but there is plenty of information on this forum to help those who are willing. No doubt there is a high barrier to entry, but it can be overcome by those who live in country and speak some Korean.
I particularly like the online experience because I don't have to wander a seedy neighborhood and negotiate with bikini clad women in pink windows. That doesn't mean there wasn't a certain charm to those sorts of transactions, but I prefer to arrive at a clean and comfortable officetel and know that I'll be with the woman I chose and receive the advertised services I will pay for. Discretion, comfort, cleanliness, and transparency are certainly worth the price paid.
I know it's not possible for everyone to access these services, but there is plenty of information on this forum to help those who are willing. No doubt there is a high barrier to entry, but it can be overcome by those who live in country and speak some Korean.I agree with your point. I am not Korean and a younger guy. My experience exploring this environment with an open mind has been positive. My language ability is basic, and I have not been accepted everywhere I contacted, but it has offered me good experiences that have been well worth the price with only some effort and an open mind required. I also prefer the discreteness of Opis rather than open RLDs, and so on.
Hey Bonjovi3,
As a senior in Hyugetels, what do you say would be the best time to try contacting and getting into new Hyugetels. I would reason Friday evenings through the weekend is a no bet time for new foreign customers since there's an influx of Korean customers during that time frame.
I'm of a view that weekday afternoons till early evenings would have the highest probability of atleast getting accepted into one of them. What do you say about that?
I always assumed Hyugetels are a no go for foreigners but after reading several of your reports, I think they're worth a good try atleast.
BTW, even when you have nothing new to report, your usual Hyugetel reports are always a fun and informative read.Thanks for the shout out.
To be honest, I don't think there's ever a bad time to contact a Hyugetel. Places that won't accept foreigners never will, regardless of the time you call, and those that are open to foreigners will try to work around your schedule.
However, to verify your assumption that Hyugetels are relatively quiet during the day, it's absolutely true. This is why most of them offer a 10,000 won to 20,000 won discount for customers who arrive before 6:00 pm on weekdays. This suits me as I'm an early bird, but calling too early has its own issues, such as the women still being asleep. At some Hyugetels, even those that open as early as 1:00 pm, not all the women are available until later in the afternoon. What I'm saying is, call when you're available and able to make a reservation and they'll likely do what they can to get you in the door. FYI, I often go on the weekends without any issues.
Since it will be your first time, I'll reiterate a few tips I've posted earlier. Contact as many Hyugetels as you can. Start by telling them you're a foreigner and add whether you're black, white, indian, or other. If they ask you to send a photo ID, send a picture of your ARC.
The next step is to schedule an appointment. Tell them the time, woman, course, and any options you might want. Not all women will be available. Some might not work with foreigners at all, and some might be busy at the time you want to book.
If you find what you want, they will send you an address and confirm the price, course, and time. Sometimes, they will send you to an address that is across the street or next door, and then give you the real address after you call upon arrival. This can be a little confusing at first, so make sure to be early and call at least five minutes before your appointment.
Next, you'll need the building code to enter the lobby or elevator bank as well as the room number. These will be provided once you arrive.
They will often provide one extra set of instructions as well. The most common instructions I've received are: Don't knock or ring the door bell. Instead, enter a random 4 digit password on the door lock and wait for the woman to open the door. Or, they might instruct you to instead jiggle the handle two to three times and wait for the woman to open the door.
Of course, it goes without saying that all of the communications described above take place in Korean. Most of the places I've visited have been happy to text, but a good portion require that you call upon arrival to receive the real address and elevator lobby code.
For instance, I recently got accepted by a brand new Hyugetel. I initially reached out through text and the manager said he would need to ask the women whether they would be OK with a foreigner. I've gotten similar responses in the past followed by a flat no, but in this case, about an hour later he responded that one woman had said OK, and asked whether I approved.
Of course I did.
He then texted me where to go at the appointed time, and told me to call. When the time arrived, I went to the subway station exit he had mentioned and called. He then told me the directions, the door code, and the room number over the phone. With my Korean ability, it was a lot of information to try to remember all at once, but he clarified when I asked. He would not, however, just text me that particular info. Some Hyugetels will; Some won't. It just depends on how paranoid they are. At the places where I'm a regular, I no longer need to call; texts suffice.
Calling can be a bit of a hassle, but in this case it was worth it because the woman was beautiful, the opening hours matched my preferences, and it is located quite literally in the building adjacent to my office. As a matter of fact, it takes longer to wait for the elevator than to walk down the road to the front door. Considering that I can take a late lunch whenever I want, I couldn't be happier.
Lots of kissing, good eye contact, and DATY all day long: 50 min bbfscip 130,000 won.
Enter The V
05-01-23, 12:29
Just curious, has anyone seen the tents and small rooms in the alleyway that connects the busy / public road with the RLD? Going through that small alleyway, there's a couple of girls there. I'm assuming they aren't as "pretty" and slightly older as the women in the glass rooms.
Anyone tried any of these girls here? What was the damage?Yeah I've seen them on the video I posted on this thread a while back, Are the prices cheaper then glass girls? Looks? Service?
Hi all,
New to the forum so apologies if there's any rules broken.
I'm a Korean American (30, M) heading back to Korea for the first time in a few years and also will have my own place in Gangnam for the first time ever. Usually I stay with family so haven't ever had the opportunity to explore. I've been looking into the Anma massage services and have found a few names that I can contact via kakao and telegram.
However, wondering if any Korean Hyung or expert can check my work and make sure I've done my due diligence right. Don't want to end up getting scammed, ripped off, or getting an STD. I speak okay Korean and can get by just fine if I have the time to type and translate but get nervous on the phone.
Couple questions I have are:
- are the links and contact info from places like yamap7 trustworthy?
- should I be trying the regular places like Tiffany and donut Anma instead? Or maybe even different services for my first time?
- are there other resources that I should be taking a look at, especially if I can read Korean?
Thanks in advance! Promise to report back on any and all misadventures.Yamap7 is trustworthy, but there is a better site at Opgani12.com. It has more listings, it is updated more regularly, and there are lots of user reviews. However, you have to sign up for an account to access it.
The only way to get scammed is if you pay before you enter the premises. So, do not, under any circumstances, pay with a bank transfer. If you send money to someone, just count it as a loss because it's as good as gone. These are cash businesses, so you will always pay at the door or when you meet the woman. If you pay before you meet the woman, as is common at anmas and massage parlors where you fork over cash to someone working behind a counter, you might be disappointed with the woman provided, but you won't be outright scammed.
The anmas you mentioned should be a safe bet, but the women who work there will likely be at the end of their 20's or even in their 30's. I've not been, but from what I've read they offer great service and all the customers are required to wear a condom, so no need to worry about STDs. I also understand that asians from all over the world are welcome to visit these anmas. Donut anma, in particular, is even paying for an advertisement on a Singaporean sex forum, which further underscores how welcoming they are. If you've got the cash to burn, anmas are among the easiest way to pay for play in Seoul.
If you want to book from an online site, Kakao and Telegram can be used to get the conversation started, but almost every service requires that you eventually call or text from a cell phone number registered in Korea. The anmas you mentioned, however, might be willing to let you book an appointment using Kakao and Telegram. However, from what I've read, most foreign visitors are walk-in customers. Walk-ins are usually told to wait one or two hours until a woman becomes available. Supposedly, anmas have comfortable lounge facilities.
Thanks Bonjovi.
This is surely a lot of info worth like a decade of experience with Hyugetels. I was hoping to include those places that might have foreigners in a "may be" corner among my targets. But you're right, they either accept foreigners or not at all and calling early doesn't change that fact. I will just have to call at my convenience then.
Infact, I tried like 3 to 4 places yesterday but I lost hope after full denials LOL. But I'll put aside like an hour and try as many as possible. My Korean can handle phone conversations just fine but when it comes to memorizing addresses, passwords etc, It'll take more than average will power. Not giving up tho!! Even if it won't be as nearer as the one you're enjoying just down the street.
With such a beautiful woman, fine with Kissing, DATY, bbfscip and all that at just 130,000 and within few steps of reach, you can't be asking for more.
Thanks again for the tips and keep up the good work of your Hyugetel update reports.
Thanks for the shout out.
To be honest, I don't think there's ever a bad time to contact a Hyugetel. Places that won't accept foreigners never will, regardless of the time you call, and those that are open to foreigners will try to work around your schedule.
However, to verify your assumption that Hyugetels are relatively quiet during the day, it's absolutely true. This is why most of them offer a 10,000 won to 20,000 won discount for customers who arrive before 6:00 pm on weekdays. This suits me as I'm an early bird, but calling too early has its own issues, such as the women still being asleep. At some Hyugetels, even those that open as early as 1:00 pm, not all the women are available until later in the afternoon. What I'm saying is, call when you're available and able to make a reservation and they'll likely do what they can to get you in the door. FYI, I often go on the weekends without any issues.
Since it will be your first time, I'll reiterate a few tips I've posted earlier. Contact as many Hyugetels as you can. Start by telling them you're a foreigner and add whether you're black, white, indian, or other. If they ask you to send a photo ID, send a picture of your ARC.
The next step is to schedule an appointment. Tell them the time, woman, course, and any options you might want. Not all women will be available. Some might not work with foreigners at all, and some might be busy at the time you want to book.
If you find what you want, they will send you an address and confirm the price, course, and time. Sometimes, they will send you to an address that is across the street or next door, and then give you the real address after you call upon arrival. This can be a little confusing at first, so make sure to be early and call at least five minutes before your appointment.
Next, you'll need the building code to enter the lobby or elevator bank as well as the room number. These will be provided once you arrive.
They will often provide one extra set of instructions as well. The most common instructions I've received are: Don't knock or ring the door bell. Instead, enter a random 4 digit password on the door lock and wait for the woman to open the door. Or, they might instruct you to instead jiggle the handle two to three times and wait for the woman to open the door.
Of course, it goes without saying that all of the communications described above take place in Korean. Most of the places I've visited have been happy to text, but a good portion require that you call upon arrival to receive the real address and elevator lobby code.
For instance, I recently got accepted by a brand new Hyugetel. I initially reached out through text and the manager said he would need to ask the women whether they would be OK with a foreigner. I've gotten similar responses in the past followed by a flat no, but in this case, about an hour later he responded that one woman had said OK, and asked whether I approved.
Of course I did.
He then texted me where to go at the appointed time, and told me to call. When the time arrived, I went to the subway station exit he had mentioned and called. He then told me the directions, the door code, and the room number over the phone. With my Korean ability, it was a lot of information to try to remember all at once, but he clarified when I asked. He would not, however, just text me that particular info. Some Hyugetels will; Some won't. It just depends on how paranoid they are. At the places where I'm a regular, I no longer need to call; texts suffice.
Calling can be a bit of a hassle, but in this case it was worth it because the woman was beautiful, the opening hours matched my preferences, and it is located quite literally in the building adjacent to my office. As a matter of fact, it takes longer to wait for the elevator than to walk down the road to the front door. Considering that I can take a late lunch whenever I want, I couldn't be happier.
Lots of kissing, good eye contact, and DATY all day long: 50 min bbfscip 130,000 won.
Just curious, has anyone seen the tents and small rooms in the alleyway that connects the busy / public road with the RLD? Going through that small alleyway, there's a couple of girls there. I'm assuming they aren't as "pretty" and slightly older as the women in the glass rooms.
Anyone tried any of these girls here? What was the damage?You guessed right!. They aren't as pretty but some will still ask 100 K, but an average of 80 K is common. There's still a few in that alley too who still don't take foreigners (Like 2 or 3).
And besides that, they're those in small tents along the pavement of the public road. Here, I saw some asking from 60 K. But 80 K was common here as well. Not really old but in the latter middle age period, and not appealing look wise.
My info might be distorted cz it's been some good time since I last visited. Even though I checked several times, I didn't see any quality here honestly that deserves that kind of money. Unless you just want to get it over with so badly.
And don't bother following the ajjumas at the opposite side of the public road, they claim they have aghashi's, only to lead you to real old grandma if you're a foreigner.
In Dongducheon Jungang Station, 50 K is common and is better off in terms of price-quality ratio compared to that YDP alley (Excluding the Glass rooms ofcourse, since the alley seems to be the one fine with serving foreigners anyways) but Dongducheon is far from Seoul, like a full hour by subway, and might also not be that much worth the journey.
The more they squeeze the RLDs out, the more underground work like Hyugetels, officitells etc line up, but that means fewer options left for foreigners to explore.
MMFgBangLover
05-02-23, 13:07
Just curious, has anyone seen the tents and small rooms in the alleyway that connects the busy / public road with the RLD? Going through that small alleyway, there's a couple of girls there. I'm assuming they aren't as "pretty" and slightly older as the women in the glass rooms.
Anyone tried any of these girls here? What was the damage?You can ask any questions to most of the girls around there without any problems if you want to walk away.
The alley women are 70 k. They're probably in their 40's-50's. I only saw one that was cute. Short, mid length blonde, little tan, see / the cups and decent everything else. The rest were chubby and flat or skinny. They mostly wear sweats or long length clothing.
RedMan0505
05-02-23, 19:38
Just curious, has anyone seen the tents and small rooms in the alleyway that connects the busy / public road with the RLD? Going through that small alleyway, there's a couple of girls there. I'm assuming they aren't as "pretty" and slightly older as the women in the glass rooms.
Anyone tried any of these girls here? What was the damage?What Yepez tents and where are they located? I will be in yongsan during the month of August.
You guessed right!. They aren't as pretty but some will still ask 100 K, but an average of 80 K is common. There's still a few in that alley too who still don't take foreigners (Like 2 or 3).
And besides that, they're those in small tents along the pavement of the public road. Here, I saw some asking from 60 K. But 80 K was common here as well. Not really old but in the latter middle age period, and not appealing look wise.
My info might be distorted cz it's been some good time since I last visited. Even though I checked several times, I didn't see any quality here honestly that deserves that kind of money. Unless you just want to get it over with so badly.
And don't bother following the ajjumas at the opposite side of the public road, they claim they have aghashi's, only to lead you to real old grandma if you're a foreigner.
In Dongducheon Jungang Station, 50 K is common and is better off in terms of price-quality ratio compared to that YDP alley (Excluding the Glass rooms ofcourse, since the alley seems to be the one fine with serving foreigners anyways) but Dongducheon is far from Seoul, like a full hour by subway, and might also not be that much worth the journey..
Yamap7 is trustworthy, but there is a better site at Opgani12.com. It has more listings, it is updated more regularly, and there are lots of user reviews. However, you have to sign up for an account to access it.
The only way to get scammed is if you pay before you enter the premises. So, do not, under any circumstances, pay with a bank transfer. If you send money to someone, just count it as a loss because it's as good as gone. These are cash businesses, so you will always pay at the door or when you meet the woman. If you pay before you meet the woman, as is common at anmas and massage parlors where you fork over cash to someone working behind a counter, you might be disappointed with the woman provided, but you won't be outright scammed.
The anmas you mentioned should be a safe bet, but the women who work there will likely be at the end of their 20's or even in their 30's. I've not been, but from what I've read they offer great service and all the customers are required to wear a condom, so no need to worry about STDs. I also understand that asians from all over the world are welcome to visit these anmas. Donut anma, in particular, is even paying for an advertisement on a Singaporean sex forum, which further underscores how welcoming they are. If you've got the cash to burn, anmas are among the easiest way to pay for play in Seoul.You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. Appreciate all the tips!
From your recommendations, I think I'll try the hyugatels and also maybe a few outcall services if I get some good photos sent ahead for me to pick from.
If you have any specific services and connections you've enjoyed using, would appreciate the connection but totally understand if that's just got to be part of my journey of discovery.
Thanks again!
MikerChanger
05-04-23, 06:56
In a new Hyugetel advert I spotted a woman that I had met at another location two years earlier. Since she worked there, I figured this new place would respond favorably to a request to book an appointment. Thankfully they did, and so I made an appointment. The woman remembered me and she let me know that I remain the only foreign customer she has ever met in Korea.
The first time she serviced me she was good, but on this more recent visit, she was great. She gave a great blow job with a full deep throat experience and also sucked my balls and rimmed me. And she did all of this willfully and happily. She was also fully on board for DATY and DFK. To top it off, she was very attentive to my needs which she showed by blowing my cock and sucking my balls between every position change. To sum up, the experience was everything I had hoped it would be.
30 min bbfscip 110,000 won.Hey Bonjovi3,
I have been reading through your posts quite often recently and noticed the word Hyugetel. If I remember correctly, its like an office building with units inside for girls? By any chance how can I find these services. I have checked opgani12. Is it like an incall service? I have used kakotalk to contact girls before but I have never heard of this site.
Would you be kind enough to give us, the readers, more of your wisdom on how opgani12 works.
Thanks brother!
Hey Bonjovi3,
I have been reading through your posts quite often recently and noticed the word Hyugetel. If I remember correctly, its like an office building with units inside for girls? By any chance how can I find these services. I have checked opgani12. Is it like an incall service? I have used kakotalk to contact girls before but I have never heard of this site.
Would you be kind enough to give us, the readers, more of your wisdom on how opgani12 works.
Thanks brother!BLUF- you need to know how to read Korean- to register and navigate. I'm a white dude from the south, if I can anyone can.
Go to https / urlreplacement0} and register with your username, name, and email. After login, you can filter results from the top left by type- officetel, hyugetel, gunma, etc. And by location Seoul, Pyeongtaek, uijeongbu, etc. The list of providers will be displayed with contact information and a link to their page with pictures. I've never used the contact information, but someday soon I will.
Good luck. Hope it helps.
Traveling John #2
05-06-23, 03:11
In a new Hyugetel advert I spotted a woman that I had met at another location two years earlier. Since she worked there, I figured this new place would respond favorably to a request to book an appointment. Thankfully they did, and so I made an appointment. The woman remembered me and she let me know that I remain the only foreign customer she has ever met in Korea.
The first time she serviced me she was good, but on this more recent visit, she was great. She gave a great blow job with a full deep throat experience and also sucked my balls and rimmed me. And she did all of this willfully and happily. She was also fully on board for DATY and DFK. To top it off, she was very attentive to my needs which she showed by blowing my cock and sucking my balls between every position change. To sum up, the experience was everything I had hoped it would be.
30 min bbfscip 110,000 won.Haha, Korea is funny and not funny with how it works. I made a great connection with a girl and got her private digits. She messaged me when she moved shops and I contacted the new place to make an appt but they said girls were not interested in foreigners. I didn't want to invest the time of doing private meeting and prefer the quick meetings of these agencies.
GuyReynolds
05-07-23, 01:58
What can be done at these kind of places? I've seen this one before but I've never visited it. I'm closer to gangnam and I've walked by Gangnam Karol a few times but I want to try it soon.Which place are you referring to? The Kiss Bang or Massage parlor? Both have been covered in this forum and others areas in Korea. The kiss place is where you can go make out with girls anywhere from early 20's to mid 30's, HJ, BJ, and FS available depending on the girl, YMMV. Some guys have been able to meet these girls outside for fun, as the girl was comfortable enough to give them their KakaoIDs. The massage is just the usual. Only thing I found different about this place is that you pay the girl separately for FS, I rarely visit Seoul or monger there so not sure if this is standard practice for all massage places there. Prices for both have been mentioned on this thread, so I'd go back a few pages for accurate pricing as I don't know them off the top of my head.
BLUF- you need to know how to read Korean- to register and navigate. I'm a white dude from the south, if I can anyone can.
Go to https / urlreplacement0} and register with your username, name, and email. After login, you can filter results from the top left by type- officetel, hyugetel, gunma, etc. And by location Seoul, Pyeongtaek, uijeongbu, etc. The list of providers will be displayed with contact information and a link to their page with pictures. I've never used the contact information, but someday soon I will.
Good luck. Hope it helps.What is the site? It doesn't show correctly can you spell it out or something? I'd assume using google translate to read the site works.
BLUF- you need to know how to read Korean- to register and navigate. I'm a white dude from the south, if I can anyone can.
Go to https / urlreplacement0} and register with your username, name, and email. After login, you can filter results from the top left by type- officetel, hyugetel, gunma, etc. And by location Seoul, Pyeongtaek, uijeongbu, etc. The list of providers will be displayed with contact information and a link to their page with pictures. I've never used the contact information, but someday soon I will.
Good luck. Hope it helps.I am foreigner in Seoul and I was curious if anyone here has an idea if it's possible for guys to find women who need sex and pay the guy. A friend told me he heard those places exist but very hidden compare to women own.
I was reading and it seems public transportation ends at midnight. So if you are out an about at a RLD late, how do you get back to your hotel? Is a taxi the only way?
MMFgBangLover
05-08-23, 05:30
I was reading and it seems public transportation ends at midnight. So if you are out an about at a RLD late, how do you get back to your hotel? Is a taxi the only way?There're nightbuses. Use naver maps, it usually has good route suggestions but you can also search nightbuses in korean and select stops to see all the nearby stops and routes with them. There are a lot of taxis though, not a bad option. I'm guessing the most you'd spend is around 30 k across the city.
This may also be breaking a few forum rules but I'm in the same situation (age, background) as you. Any interest in some adventures together?
I usually monger alone but Korea is very receptive to groups and some activities unavailable back in the states are just for non-solo groups (IE drinks+more in hostess bars etc).
Twos would get a lot farther and have more fun than one.
Hi all,
New to the forum so apologies if there's any rules broken.
I'm a Korean American (30, M) heading back to Korea for the first time in a few years and also will have my own place in Gangnam for the first time ever. Usually I stay with family so haven't ever had the opportunity to explore. I've been looking into the Anma massage services and have found a few names that I can contact via kakao and telegram.
However, wondering if any Korean Hyung or expert can check my work and make sure I've done my due diligence right. Don't want to end up getting scammed, ripped off, or getting an STD. I speak okay Korean and can get by just fine if I have the time to type and translate but get nervous on the phone.
Couple questions I have are:.
I'm heading out to Seoul for the first time soon but haven't booked a hotel yet. I want to be close to mongering and having fun each night as I'll be there about a week.
I think I've narrowed it 3 places.
1. Itaewon to be close to the hill as they are more foreigner friendly (I don't speak Korean).
2. Yeongduengpo to be close to that RLD as they seem more active than the hill from what I have read. Downside is it seems less centralized and will take longer to get around the city for daytime activities or exploration.
3. Myeong-dong area. I don't know of any mongering fun to be had but it is a more centralized area.
If I find time, I will probably head up to the Miari RLD one night, I like the quick ones better as I'm generally a fast shooter so don't want to pay for an hour only for it to last 10-15 minutes anyway. Do the website escorts who list per hour ever offer cheaper rates for smaller times if you call and ask?
Anyone with experience have a recommendation on where to stay?
I'm heading out to Seoul for the first time soon but haven't booked a hotel yet. I want to be close to mongering and having fun each night as I'll be there about a week.
I think I've narrowed it 3 places.
1. Itaewon to be close to the hill as they are more foreigner friendly (I don't speak Korean).
2. Yeongduengpo to be close to that RLD as they seem more active than the hill from what I have read. Downside is it seems less centralized and will take longer to get around the city for daytime activities or exploration.
3. Myeong-dong area. I don't know of any mongering fun to be had but it is a more centralized area.
If I find time, I will probably head up to the Miari RLD one night, I like the quick ones better as I'm generally a fast shooter so don't want to pay for an hour only for it to last 10-15 minutes anyway. Do the website escorts who list per hour ever offer cheaper rates for smaller times if you call and ask?
Anyone with experience have a recommendation on where to stay?
Hate to post again (been a day without a response).
So outside of full on fun probably at RLDs at night. I am looking to get massages during the day. Are these pretty much everywhere around town or mostly concentrated in certain areas? Is there a best way to find one? Anything I should know in particular?
Basically I'm looking to get a massage during the day most days I'm there. A nice bonus would be a HJ or BJ to end, but not necessary depending on the price. I think I've seen massages are pretty cheap around town.
MMFgBangLover
05-11-23, 07:00
Do the website escorts who list per hour ever offer cheaper rates for smaller times if you call and ask?
Anyone with experience have a recommendation on where to stay?Unless it's an option in their advert, they'd probably get annoyed if you ask for less time for cheaper. They'll be more than happy to take the full amount for less time though, haha.
Out of the very few times using massagerepublic, I've always been able to ask for a price well below 300 k without any reluctance. Even down to 200 k. I think it helps if you look presentable on your messanger app's profile, if you're not concerned with appearing anonymous.
You should probably stay around the normal places you want to visit since the p4 p scene isn't worth being the main reason to travel here. Haven't checked much of the other RLDs besides YDP that I've reported. Girls take breaks, come, and go. None of the really good ones there as far as when passing by lately. Let us know about the other places when you visit.
This post has been exactly the in I've been looking for so thank you for this — it's been impossible.
To find this type of site so this is super helpful. Do you know if there are any similar major review sites besides opgani and yamap? Something like this site or ***? Opgani looks like a purely review site oriented around different agencies, whereas this site for example has a place for broader discussion. I'm interested in where to access just general seedy or frank convos from korean netizens that aren't blocked by censors.
Also, any idea on why they require a korean cell number? My korean is pretty good and I'm ethnically korean so I'm surprised they care that much.
Yamap7 is trustworthy, but there is a better site at Opgani12.com. It has more listings, it is updated more regularly, and there are lots of user reviews. However, you have to sign up for an account to access it.
The only way to get scammed is if you pay before you enter the premises. So, do not, under any circumstances, pay with a bank transfer. If you send money to someone, just count it as a loss because it's as good as gone. These are cash businesses, so you will always pay at the door or when you meet the woman. If you pay before you meet the woman, as is common at anmas and massage parlors where you fork over cash to someone working behind a counter, you might be disappointed with the woman provided, but you won't be outright scammed.
The anmas you mentioned should be a safe bet, but the women who work there will likely be at the end of their 20's or even in their 30's. I've not been, but from what I've read they offer great service and all the customers are required to wear a condom, so no need to worry about STDs. I also understand that asians from all over the world are welcome to visit these anmas. Donut anma, in particular, is even paying for an advertisement on a Singaporean sex forum, which further underscores how welcoming they are. If you've got the cash to burn, anmas are among the easiest way to pay for play in Seoul.
If you want to book from an online site, Kakao and Telegram can be used to get the conversation started, but almost every service requires that you eventually call or text from a cell phone number registered in Korea. The anmas you mentioned, however, might be willing to let you book an appointment using Kakao and Telegram. However, from what I've read, most foreign visitors are walk-in customers. Walk-ins are usually told to wait one or two hours until a woman becomes available. Supposedly, anmas have comfortable lounge facilities.
GuyReynolds
05-11-23, 13:58
Hate to post again (been a day without a response).
So outside of full on fun probably at RLDs at night. I am looking to get massages during the day. Are these pretty much everywhere around town or mostly concentrated in certain areas? Is there a best way to find one? Anything I should know in particular?
Basically I'm looking to get a massage during the day most days I'm there. A nice bonus would be a HJ or BJ to end, but not necessary depending on the price. I think I've seen massages are pretty cheap around town.This thread isn't as active as other threads on this site, so doesn't really get alot of traffic. Not to mention its hard to get services here if you're not Korean, as I know Koreans have their own site and forums for this kind of stuff with far more information, but primarily this country is a bit prejudice against non-Koreans. I don't frequent Seoul much, but I'd say stay in Itaewon. The Hill is there and plenty of foreigners, as well as Korean girls who like foreigners, tend to go to the bars / clubs in that area.
Pretty much most massage parlors will give you what you want, not sure if you're a Gyopo, White, Black, Indian, Hispanic, or of some other Asian descent. But they may deny you depending on your ethnicity and the time of day that you go. Read the forum, lots of info and not much changes. Rule of thumb is that if the massage place has dim or red / pinkish lights when you walk in then expect extra services. They'll always ask if you want extra service, or if you pay over 100 K WON upfront at reception, then just know that you're probably in the right place. Besides specific ones that have been mentioned here, it'll be fairly easy to find a massage shop that offers extras. Also, expect most of the Itaewon shops to cater to your needs.
Keep in mind that if you are not Korean, the taxi drivers will try to overcharge you late at night and not use the meter. So be ready to barter / haggle, you can try and use the phone app "Kakao T" which is basically their Taxi service, kinda like "Grab".
Unless it's an option in their advert, they'd probably get annoyed if you ask for less time for cheaper. They'll be more than happy to take the full amount for less time though, haha.
Out of the very few times using massagerepublic, I've always been able to ask for a price well below 300 k without any reluctance. Even down to 200 k. I think it helps if you look presentable on your messanger app's profile, if you're not concerned with appearing anonymous.
You should probably stay around the normal places you want to visit since the p4 p scene isn't worth being the main reason to travel here. Haven't checked much of the other RLDs besides YDP that I've reported. Girls take breaks, come, and go. None of the really good ones there as far as when passing by lately. Let us know about the other places when you visit.I was looking through some ads on MR but don't really see anything for number of pops. Do they normally include multiple pops in an hour or is that extra?
OohxTasty10
05-11-23, 15:11
Hi,
I'm trying this forum again to see if I have better luck. I'm currently vacationing in Seoul staying in Jung-gu and I can't for the life of me figure out how you're suppose to get either the phone number or the location of any Hyugetel. I've been reading posts on this thread of peoples' experiences but none of them really say how or where these Hyugetels I've heard so much about are found in the first place. Are there going to be signs around town that say "Hyugetel" (or "rest tel") in Korean? I have no idea where to start the mongering in this city. I've seen a number of "massage" places advertised all over (and I assume those are the happy ending types) and one place with the spinning barber pole (which I heard is basically code for a brothel?) but nothing about Hyugetels. Also from reading on this site and others, it seems like the massage parlors I have found don't even usually offer what I'm looking for anyway, or do they? Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
This post has been exactly the in I've been looking for so thank you for this it's been impossible.
To find this type of site so this is super helpful. Do you know if there are any similar major review sites besides opgani and yamap? Something like this site or ***? Opgani looks like a purely review site oriented around different agencies, whereas this site for example has a place for broader discussion. I'm interested in where to access just general seedy or frank convos from korean netizens that aren't blocked by censors.
Also, any idea on why they require a korean cell number? My korean is pretty good and I'm ethnically korean so I'm surprised they care that much.A follow up this would be how to get around this Korean number requirement. Fairly difficult to get a Korean number here outside.
Of the airports or if you're a long term resident with an alien registration card. ESim options are very limited unless you're at the airport (skype calls show up as a different number and get denied, and idk about other things like callhippo. Any advice?
The Korean forum thing is more important tho, if anyone has answers for that.
A follow up this would be how to get around this Korean number requirement. Fairly difficult to get a Korean number here outside.
Of the airports or if you're a long term resident with an alien registration card. ESim options are very limited unless you're at the airport (skype calls show up as a different number and get denied, and idk about other things like callhippo. Any advice?
The Korean forum thing is more important tho, if anyone has answers for that.They require a Korean cell phone number to make sure customers are not cops.
The phone number is also a kind of insurance. If a customer were to do something stupid, they could use the knowledge of the phone number and details on their government issued ID to track them down and punish them.
Such a high barrier to entry obviously prevents sex tourism, but they could care less because they have more than enough customers in country. Therefore, the only way for those not living in Korea to access these places would be if a Korean friend took you along as his plus one. Otherwise, you're totally out of luck.
Keep in mind that these services are extremely difficult for even non-Korean residents to access.
Regarding your other question, DCinside contains some info about the sex industry written in Korean. In one of my past reports, I posted a link to a particularly informative article I found on their site.
Hi,
I'm trying this forum again to see if I have better luck. I'm currently vacationing in Seoul staying in Jung-gu and I can't for the life of me figure out how you're suppose to get either the phone number or the location of any Hyugetel. I've been reading posts on this thread of peoples' experiences but none of them really say how or where these Hyugetels I've heard so much about are found in the first place. Are there going to be signs around town that say "Hyugetel" (or "rest tel") in Korean? I have no idea where to start the mongering in this city. I've seen a number of "massage" places advertised all over (and I assume those are the happy ending types) and one place with the spinning barber pole (which I heard is basically code for a brothel?) but nothing about Hyugetels. Also from reading on this site and others, it seems like the massage parlors I have found don't even usually offer what I'm looking for anyway, or do they? Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!As a tourist, you'll only be able to access RLDs and massage parlors, and even these are not sure things.
Concerning RLDs, note that few reports have been written up recently. This is because the biggest and best RLDs (Suwon, 588, and Cheonho) have closed and the remaining ones are under intense pressure from government, land developers, and civic groups. YDP, Hooker Hill, and Miari are mere shadows of what they used to be.
As far as massage shops go, they are everywhere. Whether they're genuine massage shops or fronts for prostitution can be hard to establish. Lucky for you, some have been written about on this forum. Use the search function to see what you can find, but keep in mind that no matter where you go, YMMV.
Try as you might, you won't find hyugetels anywhere. They're all hidden within residential buildings. Imagine a long concrete corridor. Imagine that the corridor has 20 to 30 doors leading to tiny studio apartments and that the building has 15 identical floors. Behind two of the doors there are women, working in so-called Hyugetels, waiting for a phone operator to send men to their studio apartment. As a civilian, you would never know they existed, and as a tourist, no matter how hard you try, you simply won't have access to these places because the phone operators won't deal with you.
MMFgBangLover
05-12-23, 06:58
I was looking through some ads on MR but don't really see anything for number of pops. Do they normally include multiple pops in an hour or is that extra?They're independent so there isn't really a norm. If you ask about their service the more professional ones will send a premade image or text with more details. You should just ask if they allow multiple shots. I'd assume that it's an extra charge but depends on the girl. Some reviews mentioned some girls being cool with it.
They require a Korean cell phone number to make sure customers are not cops.
The phone number is also a kind of insurance. If a customer were to do something stupid, they could use the knowledge of the phone number and details on their government issued ID to track them down and punish them.
Such a high barrier to entry obviously prevents sex tourism, but they could care less because they have more than enough customers in country. Therefore, the only way for those not living in Korea to access these places would be if a Korean friend took you along as his plus one. Otherwise, you're totally out of luck.
Keep in mind that these services are extremely difficult for even non-Korean residents to access.
Regarding your other question, DCinside contains some info about the sex industry written in Korean. In one of my past reports, I posted a link to a particularly informative article I found on their site.Again, appreciate the info. Found that article in one of your past posts and had a good read. DCInside is a maze even to someone who has a decent grasp of korean. Some forums are used regularly and others have dust collecting from years of disuse. Do you know if there's particular slang folks use to talk about this or a specific forum where this is discussed? The article you mentioned was randomly in the southeast asia part altho it discusses korean domestic use. I guess maybe sex tourism discussion is just higher in that forum and it bleeds over to this?
Also, do you know if the eSim + phone numbers you can only get at the airport would suffice for the sites on opgani etc? That seems to be the only way to get a korean phone number as a visitor without an ARC, but I'm not sure if that'll be some sort of strange number that IDs you as a visitor that agencies will filter out.
Otherwise I'the have to borrow other people's phones or go with someone basically LOL.
Which place are you referring to? The Kiss Bang or Massage parlor? Both have been covered in this forum and others areas in Korea. The kiss place is where you can go make out with girls anywhere from early 20's to mid 30's, HJ, BJ, and FS available depending on the girl, YMMV. Some guys have been able to meet these girls outside for fun, as the girl was comfortable enough to give them their KakaoIDs. The massage is just the usual. Only thing I found different about this place is that you pay the girl separately for FS, I rarely visit Seoul or monger there so not sure if this is standard practice for all massage places there. Prices for both have been mentioned on this thread, so I'd go back a few pages for accurate pricing as I don't know them off the top of my head.Late response- opgani12 is the site. Bonjovi has mentioned it extensively.
OasisSecret
05-13-23, 16:06
I have been doing my research for an upcoming trip and to be honest, I had kind of given up on any fun while here. I did run across articles and such on the Barber Shops, but everything is from 2019 or earlier. Are these still around? Can a white guy walk in and get service? It actually sound like exactly what I want if possible.
I have been doing my research for an upcoming trip and to be honest, I had kind of given up on any fun while here. I did run across articles and such on the Barber Shops, but everything is from 2019 or earlier. Are these still around? Can a white guy walk in and get service? It actually sound like exactly what I want if possible.They're less common than they used to be, but they're still around. I'd say the acceptance rate for whites before the pandemic was 70-80%. I haven't been in enough post-pandemic to get a feel for whether or not we're less accepted now, which is possible. It's definitely a case of YMMV. I'd say 60% of the time, you're going to get a HJ, and the other 40% of the time FS. If they charge 70-80, it's probably the former and if it's 100+, probably the latter, but I've gotten FS for 80. The women tend to be older, but sometimes they have younger gals in there too. I think if you go in the morning hours, you're more likely to get a younger one and in the peak hours, you're going to get the oldest one. Some want to do BBFS, so you may want to bring your own hat. I used to get good rimjobs at one near Gildong station, but others reported less success, perhaps with different providers. Even within the same shop, YMMV depending on your provider.
OasisSecret
05-14-23, 12:22
They're less common than they used to be, but they're still around. I'd say the acceptance rate for whites before the pandemic was 70-80%. I haven't been in enough post-pandemic to get a feel for whether or not we're less accepted now, which is possible. It's definitely a case of YMMV. I'd say 60% of the time, you're going to get a HJ, and the other 40% of the time FS. If they charge 70-80, it's probably the former and if it's 100+, probably the latter, but I've gotten FS for 80. The women tend to be older, but sometimes they have younger gals in there too. I think if you go in the morning hours, you're more likely to get a younger one and in the peak hours, you're going to get the oldest one. Some want to do BBFS, so you may want to bring your own hat. I used to get good rimjobs at one near Gildong station, but others reported less success, perhaps with different providers. Even within the same shop, YMMV depending on your provider.Ideally, I would love just a quality BBBJ. It's been ages for a start to finish. 70 to 80 and I would get one every day.
I am staying close to the Lotte Hotel and department store if anyone knows about that area.
Thank you gentleman.
This may also be breaking a few forum rules but I'm in the same situation (age, background) as you. Any interest in some adventures together?
I usually monger alone but Korea is very receptive to groups and some activities unavailable back in the states are just for non-solo groups (IE drinks+more in hostess bars etc).
Twos would get a lot farther and have more fun than one.Hey KMax212,
Sorry for the late reply, was away from my computer for a bit. I would be open to it. The shirt rooms, NRBs, and host bars require a group and would be scary as hell to enter alone. But I can't figure out the messaging system and don't know enough about the forum rules though. If you have any bright ideas, I'm all ears.
I will report back that I've had good success getting a couple hyugatels and kiss rooms from opgani12 to send me their line-ups and start the reservation process. It's got to be 100% in Korean and I'm starting to pick up the lingo they use. About 75% of them asked me to call though to confirm which is where I hit a roadblock as I don't have a Korean phone but hoping to pick up a burner tomorrow.
I am heading to seoul at the end of June and wondering if anyone is willing to team up and find some nice places. DM me if you are interested.
Again, appreciate the info. Found that article in one of your past posts and had a good read. DCInside is a maze even to someone who has a decent grasp of korean. Some forums are used regularly and others have dust collecting from years of disuse. Do you know if there's particular slang folks use to talk about this or a specific forum where this is discussed? The article you mentioned was randomly in the southeast asia part altho it discusses korean domestic use. I guess maybe sex tourism discussion is just higher in that forum and it bleeds over to this?
Also, do you know if the eSim + phone numbers you can only get at the airport would suffice for the sites on opgani etc? That seems to be the only way to get a korean phone number as a visitor without an ARC, but I'm not sure if that'll be some sort of strange number that IDs you as a visitor that agencies will filter out.
Otherwise I'the have to borrow other people's phones or go with someone basically LOL.I don't see why a sim from the airport wouldn't work. I think it would be OK.
By the way, you're not simply facing a phone issue. Getting a hold of a Korean phone number is certainly one major hurdle, but the higher mountain to climb is the requirement to provide a photo or scan of an ID card.
Most Hyugetels and OPs want to confirm their customers' identities and this means that new customers are asked to verify who they are by providing valid photo ID. I've had to provide ID twice, which suggests that there are at least two major organizations handling these types of businesses in Seoul and that they each use their own customer database.
Regarding your situation as a non-resident tourist, the issue is whether they will accept your ID. From first hand experience, I know that they accept Korean government issued ID, but I have no idea whether they would accept a passport or ID from another country. I don't believe anyone has posted a report confirming that they have successfully booked an appointment using ID issued outside Korea. This means that you're essentially in uncharted territory, and that any future report you write would be invaluable.
I'm sure a lot of people on this forum would greatly benefit from reading about your upcoming experience. Whether you're able to book an appointment from an online listing or not, please write up a report. I, for one, would be curious to know which types of providers you contacted (Hyugetel, OP, Gunma etc.), what troubles you faced, how far you got in the process, and whether the experience was worth all the hassle.
As always, good luck.
Don't think I'll have a chance to try this out this trip since the rest of my time here is busy, but I will try when I come back next time and report back.
Providing ID is a pretty steep bar, I'm surprised how thorough this verification is and how willing customers are for this. Is there a verification process that agencies use instead? Ie give the number of two other agencies who can vouch for you as a reasonable customer? This is what other agencies in the US do sometimes. Then again, with a centralized DB service it seems like most agencies use, would that even be necessary?
For the IDs you provided, did you provide your ARC card then? Seems like you are a foreigner and yet have Korea-issued ID so seems like that's the only option really? Apologies if I'm prying.
Will certainly report back on any future endeavors but it may be a while from now. I will be doing research on my own around this centralized DB as this is interesting to me for.
General reasons too.
I don't see why a sim from the airport wouldn't work. I think it would be OK.
By the way, you're not simply facing a phone issue. Getting a hold of a Korean phone number is certainly one major hurdle, but the higher mountain to climb is the requirement to provide a photo or scan of an ID card.
Most Hyugetels and OPs want to confirm their customers' identities and this means that new customers are asked to verify who they are by providing valid photo ID. I've had to provide ID twice, which suggests that there are at least two major organizations handling these types of businesses in Seoul and that they each use their own customer database.
Regarding your situation as a non-resident tourist, the issue is whether they will accept your ID. From first hand experience, I know that they accept Korean government issued ID, but I have no idea whether they would accept a passport or ID from another country. I don't believe anyone has posted a report confirming that they have successfully booked an appointment using ID issued outside Korea. This means that you're essentially in uncharted territory, and that any future report you write would be invaluable.
I'm sure a lot of people on this forum would greatly benefit from reading about your upcoming experience. Whether you're able to book an appointment from an online listing or not, please write up a report. I, for one, would be curious to know which types of providers you contacted (Hyugetel, OP, Gunma etc.), what troubles you faced, how far you got in the process, and whether the experience was worth all the hassle.
As always, good luck.
Don't think I'll have a chance to try this out this trip since the rest of my time here is busy, but I will try when I come back next time and report back.
Providing ID is a pretty steep bar, I'm surprised how thorough this verification is and how willing customers are for this. Is there a verification process that agencies use instead? Ie give the number of two other agencies who can vouch for you as a reasonable customer? This is what other agencies in the US do sometimes. Then again, with a centralized DB service it seems like most agencies use, would that even be necessary?
For the IDs you provided, did you provide your ARC card then? Seems like you are a foreigner and yet have Korea-issued ID so seems like that's the only option really? Apologies if I'm prying.
Will certainly report back on any future endeavors but it may be a while from now. I will be doing research on my own around this centralized DB as this is interesting to me for.
General reasons too.And the most hilarious part is the sub par service you get 80 percent of the time. What a joke.
Don't think I'll have a chance to try this out this trip since the rest of my time here is busy, but I will try when I come back next time and report back.
Providing ID is a pretty steep bar, I'm surprised how thorough this verification is and how willing customers are for this. Is there a verification process that agencies use instead? Ie give the number of two other agencies who can vouch for you as a reasonable customer? This is what other agencies in the US do sometimes. Then again, with a centralized DB service it seems like most agencies use, would that even be necessary?
For the IDs you provided, did you provide your ARC card then? Seems like you are a foreigner and yet have Korea-issued ID so seems like that's the only option really? Apologies if I'm prying.
Will certainly report back on any future endeavors but it may be a while from now. I will be doing research on my own around this centralized DB as this is interesting to me for.
General reasons too.Online bookings have always required some form of ID for verification. A few years back, some places were OK with a picture of a business card (provided it included one's name and cell phone number). Some may still be OK with this, but I think many realized that police could easily make fake business cards, and so started to request official papers instead.
However, as far as I know, this entire process may have changed in the past few years. I provided my ID a long time ago, so I can't say I know for certain that it's done the same exact way now. It's possible that the process of vetting first time customers is different, however, I assume that it wouldn't have changed much because the need to vet customers is as high as ever.
In Korea, the databases are the customer verification process. From what I've read, these databases contain a load of customer information, and this has done away with the need for customers to provide referrals. Instead businesses just query the database to see where customers have been. Apparently, these databases contain a record of visits, course preferences, amounts paid, etc. I believe that the DCinside article also mentioned that the files contain information about customers' attitude, behaviour, or habits as well, I. E. , stinky, overweight, cums quickly, etc.
I am indeed a foreigner and, yes, I provided my ARC. I understand that most people wouldn't want to do this, but it's the only way, and so when in Rome, do as the Romans do.
I'm fairly certain that even foreigners who can read enough Korean to navigate the listings and then speak Korean well enough to call the business operators would be too cautious to provide ID most of the time. This is undoubtedly why so few foreigners use these services.
So on MR I see a few Bella's now. Which one is the recommended one?
Also I saw some reports on Elena (Russian) but don't see one, is she no longer advertising?
https://n.news.naver.com/article/366/0000901499
Online prostitution mediation site owner sentenced. It's an interesting read for those wondering what's happening to the sex trade in this country.
https://n.news.naver.com/article/032/0003223540
If you thought service in Korea was expensive, it is potentially even more expensive than you would have ever thought possible.
The John in the article spent nearly 100,000,000 won a year on one woman, resulting in 900,000,000 won having been spent over roughly 10 years. Doing some napkin math shows that the John could have gotten anywhere from 500 to 1,000 encounters with as many as 500 to 1,000 different women for the same amount of money he paid one woman for one year's worth of service. And only he, her and God know how many times he actually nutted in her each year for such a large sum.
This article is particularly interesting if you read between the lines and extrapolate how this might relate to those of us on this forum. Careful readers might begin to understand why many Korean women won't deal with foreigners. With foreigners who cannot communicate with the women, there isn't the remotest possibility that the women will be able to earn such a large paycheck. All the cute pouting and endless cries of Oppa won't earn a working woman an extra cent. Most foreigners aren't paying for an ego boost and have no intention of becoming the victim of a love scam. I think it's fair to say that we just want to fuck, and a lack of Korean communication skills actually makes us immune to the emotional tactics employed by these women.
Based on the high prices of Korean OP services in Seoul, it is likely that these women are on the hunt for just the sort sugar daddy that's described in the article. Logic suggests that if a guy is willing and able to pay 1,000,000 won for an hour or two, and a women is able to seduce such a guy and make him fall in love, then her potential earnings are limitless. I'm sure not all sugar daddies are this lucrative, but I'm almost certain that the women working at OPs can smell these sorts of guys from miles away.
However, if I had that much disposable income to throw around, who's to say that I wouldn't also pay a stipend or a retainer to keep a bit of young tail nearby. Who knows, maybe this amount of money is like pocket change to these guys.
MMFgBangLover
05-19-23, 05:03
So on MR I see a few Bella's now. Which one is the recommended one?
Also I saw some reports on Elena (Russian) but don't see one, is she no longer advertising?
So on MR I see a few Bella's now. Which one is the recommended one?
Also I saw some reports on Elena (Russian) but don't see one, is she no longer advertising?That Elena isn't on MR anymore. Someone mentioned her using photos that weren't her. The Bella with reports here left Korea a long time ago and also isn't on the Seoul MR.
MMFgBangLover
05-20-23, 12:38
That Elena isn't on MR anymore. Someone mentioned her using photos that weren't her. The Bella with reports here left Korea a long time ago and also isn't on the Seoul MR.Never mind. Elena's ad's up now. Under the name Hot Elena.
OohxTasty10
05-20-23, 16:21
I spent about 1 week in Seoul and here are two reports I wanted to post about.
I went to Itaewon RLD on a Thursday evening (I thought avoiding the weekend would get me a better deal). There weren't that many women working that night, but one of the mama-sans did hook me up with a girl who claimed to be 33. Now, I'm a 32 year old guy so I can confidently say that this girl was closer the 43 than she was to 33 LOL. But that's okay, because she was actually pretty hot and had a really good attitude. To me attitude especially matters a lot since I don't want it to feel like a mechanical chore. Also, she was Korean which is what I was hoping for as well. Anyway, she took me to a private room nearby. I paid 140 k Won for 1 hour of service which included BBFS and CIP, which I was able to do two pops in that hour. The mama-san and the girl both had decent English, I didn't need a translator app at all (I speak no Korean BTW).
On a separate night, I went to a Thai massage place in Jung-gu that I think was called something like "Siam Massage" or whatever. It was on the second floor of a building on some alley near a hotel. I paid the house fee to get in and I got a super cute Thai girl who was actually young. If I had to guess she was late 20's. The massage itself was actually really good, like if I had just gone there for that and left I definitely would have gotten my money's worth. Anyway, after the flip we started negotiating. She spoke almost no English so I did have to use a translator app (translating into Thai, not Korean LOL). Anyway, she originally asked for 100 k Won for a single pop. I negotiated her to 160 k Won for 2 pops. Anyway, she refused to do BBFS or CIP even when I offered to throw in an extra 50 k it was just a hardline no for her. Fair enough. So we did do CFS and she also did BBBJ. She was very tight and definitely got my first load out very quickly. The only thing I'd complain about is that the room they put us in had a single bed which barely fit us even though she was short with a spinner type body. Like I would have rather us just go back to my hotel but I get that she had to work and couldn't leave that place.
All in all, both experiences were interesting. Definitely way cheaper than what I'd be able to get back in the US. Idk if I'd want to repeat with either girl simply because I think I could do better? This was my first time mongering in Seoul and I speak 0 Korean.
MMFgBangLover
05-20-23, 19:28
I spent about 1 week in Seoul and here are two reports I wanted to post about.
I went to Itaewon RLD on a Thursday evening (I thought avoiding the weekend would get me a better deal). There weren't that many women working that night, but one of the mama-sans did hook me up with a girl who claimed to be 33. Now, I'm a 32 year old guy so I can confidently say that this girl was closer the 43 than she was to 33 LOL. But that's okay, because she was actually pretty hot and had a really good attitude.Thanks for reporting. Could you describe the girl, bar, and mamasan? I've only been able to pass by there twice a while ago and didn't see anything tempting.
OohxTasty10
05-21-23, 13:40
Thanks for reporting. Could you describe the girl, bar, and mamasan? I've only been able to pass by there twice a while ago and didn't see anything tempting.The mama-san was short and stocky had her hair up in a bun and was wearing what appeared to be a nightgown? I forgot what the name of the place she was at was called, but if you start at the bottom of the hill / street and walk about 2/3 of the way up it'll be about there, on your left. The actual girl was wearing a super lowcut top, her tits like popping out kinda in your face. Her build was average, she wasn't thin but wasn't chubby. It also looked like she had some kind of work done to her hair. Maybe highlights? Or tips? It wasn't quite the jet black Korean hair you expect even though she was Korean.
Enter The V
05-22-23, 11:54
I spent about 1 week in Seoul and here are two reports I wanted to post about.
I went to Itaewon RLD on a Thursday evening (I thought avoiding the weekend would get me a better deal). There weren't that many women working that night, but one of the mama-sans did hook me up with a girl who claimed to be 33. Now, I'm a 32 year old guy so I can confidently say that this girl was closer the 43 than she was to 33 LOL. But that's okay, because she was actually pretty hot and had a really good attitude. To me attitude especially matters a lot since I don't want it to feel like a mechanical chore. Also, she was Korean which is what I was hoping for as well. Anyway, she took me to a private room nearby. I paid 140 k Won for 1 hour of service which included BBFS and CIP, which I was able to do two pops in that hour. The mama-san and the girl both had decent English, I didn't need a translator app at all (I speak no Korean BTW).
On a separate night, I went to a Thai massage place in Jung-gu that I think was called something like "Siam Massage" or whatever. It was on the second floor of a building on some alley near a hotel. I paid the house fee to get in and I got a super cute Thai girl who was actually young. If I had to guess she was late 20's. The massage itself was actually really good, like if I had just gone there for that and left I definitely would have gotten my money's worth. Anyway, after the flip we started negotiating. She spoke almost no English so I did have to use a translator app (translating into Thai, not Korean LOL). Anyway, she originally asked for 100 k Won for a single pop..You should try YDP RLD and Miari and see how it goes? Those would be my first 2 stops.
Hey KMax212,
Sorry for the late reply, was away from my computer for a bit. I would be open to it. The shirt rooms, NRBs, and host bars require a group and would be scary as hell to enter alone. But I can't figure out the messaging system and don't know enough about the forum rules though. If you have any bright ideas, I'm all ears.
I will report back that I've had good success getting a couple hyugatels and kiss rooms from opgani12 to send me their line-ups and start the reservation process. It's got to be 100% in Korean and I'm starting to pick up the lingo they use. About 75% of them asked me to call though to confirm which is where I hit a roadblock as I don't have a Korean phone but hoping to pick up a burner tomorrow.I would be interested in going as a group somewhere as well.
What is opgani12?
OohxTasty10
05-23-23, 19:30
You should try YDP RLD and Miari and see how it goes? Those would be my first 2 stops.I'm not in town anymore but I remember stopping by the YDP RLD and most of the korean girls straight up cold shoulder'd me because I'm not Korean. I didn't try very hard though maybe I'd have better luck if I was a bit more thorough.
MR: nearly every girl on there is an hour with 1 shot making the price more than back in the states. I was able to see Jisoo for 120 k for 15 minutes. Good session.
The Hill:
To those who don't know, the hill itself is pretty empty. The top of the hill is all trans. There is one spot up there, Evergreen, and it was only open on the weekend. Other than that, the rest are at the bottom of the hill and perpendicular to it. There were 4 or 5 places open at various times. Only one that seemed decent was Nymph with I think her name was Mimi, she had a nice body and was youngish at probably 30's. Rest were older from what I saw. Saw her for 80 k.
K:
I did try the kiss bang in Hongik. It cost 80 k for an hour and I could not get a half hour rate to get in. Once in, the girl came in and only offered a HJ after just a couple of minutes of kissing for 50 k. Overall, pretty lame, would not recommend at that price.
YDP:
Went by 2 nights (first time was just to check it out). This is where it is at. Went with one girl who seemed in her 20's and was very hot. As a white guy, most of the girls called me over so they seem willing to see foreigners to me at least. She offered 100 k off the bat and I didn't bother negotiating and just went with it.
Miari:
Was more curious than anything, but if I had a good deal I would have gone in. None were willing to do 2 shots for 100 k which is what I was looking for. Got invited to a few, but the way it is setup just seems really weird and off to me. Just didn't get a great vibe as it is in this dark long alley and the girls are just sitting there once the doors open. I'd much prefer YDP where the girls themselves are the ones calling you over rather than just being sold to you by a Mamason.
MVP-VIP:
Lastly, in Gangnam, went in to this place and they quoted me at 130 k for a half hour. Massage was ok, then the fun afterwards was good. Lady was probably late 30's at best.
I spent about 1 week in Seoul and here are two reports I wanted to post about.
I went to Itaewon RLD on a Thursday evening (I thought avoiding the weekend would get me a better deal). There weren't that many women working that night, but one of the mama-sans did hook me up with a girl who claimed to be 33. Now, I'm a 32 year old guy so I can confidently say that this girl was closer the 43 than she was to 33 LOL. But that's okay, because she was actually pretty hot and had a really good attitude. To me attitude especially matters a lot since I don't want it to feel like a mechanical chore. Also, she was Korean which is what I was hoping for as well. Anyway, she took me to a private room nearby. I paid 140 k Won for 1 hour of service which included BBFS and CIP, which I was able to do two pops in that hour. The mama-san and the girl both had decent English, I didn't need a translator app at all (I speak no Korean BTW).
On a separate night, I went to a Thai massage place in Jung-gu that I think was called something like "Siam Massage" or whatever. It was on the second floor of a building on some alley near a hotel. I paid the house fee to get in and I got a super cute Thai girl who was actually young. If I had to guess she was late 20's. The massage itself was actually really good, like if I had just gone there for that and left I definitely would have gotten my money's worth. Anyway, after the flip we started negotiating. She spoke almost no English so I did have to use a translator app (translating into Thai, not Korean LOL). Anyway, she originally asked for 100 k Won for a single pop. I negotiated her to 160 k Won for 2 pops. Anyway, she refused to do BBFS or CIP even when I offered to throw in an extra 50 k it was just a hardline no for her. Fair enough. So we did do CFS and she also did BBBJ. She was very tight and definitely got my first load out very quickly. The only thing I'd complain about is that the room they put us in had a single bed which barely fit us even though she was short with a spinner type body. Like I would have rather us just go back to my hotel but I get that she had to work and couldn't leave that place.
All in all, both experiences were interesting. Definitely way cheaper than what I'd be able to get back in the US. Idk if I'd want to repeat with either girl simply because I think I could do better? This was my first time mongering in Seoul and I speak 0 Korean.Was the name of the Thai massage place King Thai what Pho?
I would be interested in going as a group somewhere as well.
What is opgani12?I would be interested in joining a group to explore. I'll be in Seoul Thursday night, Friday night and Saturday all day.
MR: nearly every girl on there is an hour with 1 shot making the price more than back in the states. I was able to see Jisoo for 120 k for 15 minutes. Good session.
The Hill:
To those who don't know, the hill itself is pretty empty. The top of the hill is all trans. There is one spot up there, Evergreen, and it was only open on the weekend. Other than that, the rest are at the bottom of the hill and perpendicular to it. There were 4 or 5 places open at various times. Only one that seemed decent was Nymph with I think her name was Mimi, she had a nice body and was youngish at probably 30's. Rest were older from what I saw. Saw her for 80 k.
K:
I did try the kiss bang in Hongik. It cost 80 k for an hour and I could not get a half hour rate to get in. Once in, the girl came in and only offered a HJ after just a couple of minutes of kissing for 50 k. Overall, pretty lame, would not recommend at that price.
YDP:
Went by 2 nights (first time was just to check it out). This is where it is at. Went with one girl who seemed in her 20's and was very hot. As a white guy, most of the girls called me over so they seem willing to see foreigners to me at least. She offered 100 k off the bat and I didn't bother negotiating and just went with it.
Miari:
Was more curious than anything, but if I had a good deal I would have gone in. None were willing to do 2 shots for 100 k which is what I was looking for. Got invited to a few, but the way it is setup just seems really weird and off to me. Just didn't get a great vibe as it is in this dark long alley and the girls are just sitting there once the doors open. I'd much prefer YDP where the girls themselves are the ones calling you over rather than just being sold to you by a Mamason.
MVP-VIP:
Lastly, in Gangnam, went in to this place and they quoted me at 130 k for a half hour. Massage was ok, then the fun afterwards was good. Lady was probably late 30's at best.Thanks for your writeup on your experiences. I still have yet to visit them myself. What did you get at The Hill - 80 k for one shot hh? Same at YDP for 100 k?
MMFgBangLover
05-25-23, 03:34
Thanks for your writeup on your experiences. I still have yet to visit them myself. What did you get at The Hill - 80 k for one shot hh? Same at YDP for 100 k?At YDP each girl could be different but been told 100 k for 15 min, 300 k for an hour, 550 k for 2 hours and 700 k for 3 hours. The alley girls said 80 for 15,150 for 30 and around 250 for an hour. Don't recall hh, but with the window girls it's probably 200 or a small discount from that.
MMFgBangLover
05-25-23, 13:46
The mama-san was short and stocky had her hair up in a bun and was wearing what appeared to be a nightgown? I forgot what the name of the place she was at was called, but if you start at the bottom of the hill / street and walk about 2/3 of the way up it'll be about there, on your left. The actual girl was wearing a super lowcut top, her tits like popping out kinda in your face. Her build was average, she wasn't thin but wasn't chubby. It also looked like she had some kind of work done to her hair. Maybe highlights? Or tips? It wasn't quite the jet black Korean hair you expect even though she was Korean.Was the bar modern looking or run down? And was she tall, short, pale, tan, some tats? There's nothing on the left side except a waxing place at the top.
I did find a blonde stocky mamasan and a woman she works with named Michelle. She had streaks in her hair. She was short or average,165 cm maybe 5'5, wearing a one piece dress and tatted on the back, I think. Said her room was up the hill around the corner. Was that her? Didn't go for it, because much older than expected.
Very very interesting. Wouldn't this type of dynamic be the case in most places where there's a big enough industry? I. e. There's always going to be the girls chasing only the home runs like the one mentioned here, but a lot of girls just want enough for the next month too. Unless you think this type of behavior is much more common than what you'the see in other countries like the US, which is an interesting theory. One counterpoint to that would be that I've met girls from Korea who come to the US for holiday for the same type of work and talk about how the money is much much better. These are attractive high end girls too. I wouldn't expect that to be the case if there are so many high flier suckers in Korea.
It could just be simple xenophobia, along with the security measures discussed earlier that locks out foreigners. I've noticed that Korea is getting more and more open to foreigners so I wonder if this will change too.
As always, appreciate you keeping an eye on the industry from a broader POV and sharing with us. Out of curiosity, do you always keep an eye out in the news for this industry specifically? Or are you just very good at keeping up with current events in general in Korea. Either way kudos.
https://n.news.naver.com/article/366/0000901499
Online prostitution mediation site owner sentenced. It's an interesting read for those wondering what's happening to the sex trade in this country.
https://n.news.naver.com/article/032/0003223540
If you thought service in Korea was expensive, it is potentially even more expensive than you would have ever thought possible.
The John in the article spent nearly 100,000,000 won a year on one woman, resulting in 900,000,000 won having been spent over roughly 10 years. Doing some napkin math shows that the John could have gotten anywhere from 500 to 1,000 encounters with as many as 500 to 1,000 different women for the same amount of money he paid one woman for one year's worth of service. And only he, her and God know how many times he actually nutted in her each year for such a large sum.
This article is particularly interesting if you read between the lines and extrapolate how this might relate to those of us on this forum. Careful readers might begin to understand why many Korean women won't deal with foreigners. With foreigners who cannot communicate with the women, there isn't the remotest possibility that the women will be able to earn such a large paycheck. All the cute pouting and endless cries of Oppa won't earn a working woman an extra cent. Most foreigners aren't paying for an ego boost and have no intention of becoming the victim of a love scam. I think it's fair to say that we just want to fuck, and a lack of Korean communication skills actually makes us immune to the emotional tactics employed by these women.
Based on the high prices of Korean OP services in Seoul, it is likely that these women are on the hunt for just the sort sugar daddy that's described in the article. Logic suggests that if a guy is willing and able to pay 1,000,000 won for an hour or two, and a women is able to seduce such a guy and make him fall in love, then her potential earnings are limitless. I'm sure not all sugar daddies are this lucrative, but I'm almost certain that the women working at OPs can smell these sorts of guys from miles away.
However, if I had that much disposable income to throw around, who's to say that I wouldn't also pay a stipend or a retainer to keep a bit of young tail nearby. Who knows, maybe this amount of money is like pocket change to these guys.
My own apologies now for the delayed response. I missed your initial response somehow. Agreed that there's a whole world just for groups (as well as discounted rates sometimes I hear if the group is big enough) and I'the be excited to explore. I didn't even realize opgani had a messaging / reservation system. I just saw phone numbers mentioned everywhere so assumed that was it. Is it their own messaging system? Or just email or something you message separately?
The forum messaging system is odd. My google-male is my username here x 2 if you want to reach out to me there. (kmax212 kmax212).
Hey KMax212,
Sorry for the late reply, was away from my computer for a bit. I would be open to it. The shirt rooms, NRBs, and host bars require a group and would be scary as hell to enter alone. But I can't figure out the messaging system and don't know enough about the forum rules though. If you have any bright ideas, I'm all ears.
I will report back that I've had good success getting a couple hyugatels and kiss rooms from opgani12 to send me their line-ups and start the reservation process. It's got to be 100% in Korean and I'm starting to pick up the lingo they use. About 75% of them asked me to call though to confirm which is where I hit a roadblock as I don't have a Korean phone but hoping to pick up a burner tomorrow.
GatorEngineer
05-26-23, 11:42
Hi long time lurker infrequent poster. I will be staying at the Grand Hyatt, I assume the best place walking distance to look is Itaewon?
Anyone know if the Hyatt is girl friendly? Any chance of any action from the bar?
Where is the Hill?
And MR is what website.
I have a thing for Russian / Eastern European women, wondering what I can expect to pay in Seoul. Is there anywhere to find those in the wild?
Thanks and hope to share my results. I often use Seeking in the US, and am trying for Seoul as well but the numbers I am getting back are ridiculous $600 USD.
My own apologies now for the delayed response. I missed your initial response somehow. Agreed that there's a whole world just for groups (as well as discounted rates sometimes I hear if the group is big enough) and I'the be excited to explore. I didn't even realize opgani had a messaging / reservation system. I just saw phone numbers mentioned everywhere so assumed that was it. Is it their own messaging system? Or just email or something you message separately?
The forum messaging system is odd. My google-male is my username here x 2 if you want to reach out to me there. (kmax212 kmax212).Sent a message, maybe check your junk / spam folder if you don't see it.
I spent about 1 week in Seoul and here are two reports I wanted to post about.
I went to Itaewon RLD on a Thursday evening (I thought avoiding the weekend would get me a better deal). There weren't that many women working that night, but one of the mama-sans did hook me up with a girl who claimed to be 33. Now, I'm a 32 year old guy so I can confidently say that this girl was closer the 43 than she was to 33 LOL. But that's okay, because she was actually pretty hot and had a really good attitude. To me attitude especially matters a lot since I don't want it to feel like a mechanical chore. Also, she was Korean which is what I was hoping for as well. Anyway, she took me to a private room nearby. I paid 140 k Won for 1 hour of service which included BBFS and CIP, which I was able to do two pops in that hour. The mama-san and the girl both had decent English, I didn't need a translator app at all (I speak no Korean BTW).
What was the name of the shop and where was it? 140 K for 2 shots is a decent deal here, especially if the provider was friendly.
Very very interesting. Wouldn't this type of dynamic be the case in most places where there's a big enough industry? I. e. There's always going to be the girls chasing only the home runs like the one mentioned here, but a lot of girls just want enough for the next month too. Unless you think this type of behavior is much more common than what you'the see in other countries like the US, which is an interesting theory. One counterpoint to that would be that I've met girls from Korea who come to the US for holiday for the same type of work and talk about how the money is much much better. These are attractive high end girls too. I wouldn't expect that to be the case if there are so many high flier suckers in Korea.
It could just be simple xenophobia, along with the security measures discussed earlier that locks out foreigners. I've noticed that Korea is getting more and more open to foreigners so I wonder if this will change too.
As always, appreciate you keeping an eye on the industry from a broader POV and sharing with us. Out of curiosity, do you always keep an eye out in the news for this industry specifically? Or are you just very good at keeping up with current events in general in Korea. Either way kudos.I follow the news in general and the news of this industry in particular because I find it fascinating.
You're right that paying huge amounts for sex isn't a practice unique to Korea. I'm sure that there are plenty of women looking for a big pay day and a fair amount of men willing to cough up large amounts of cash all over the world. However, I think the practice is more prevalent in Korea where the tradition of professional mistress has been ingrained as an accepted part of Korean culture for generations.
Let me try to explain in further detail.
From dating to marriage and even to family, gender roles are clearly delineated along similar boundaries across East Asia, and the same can be said for 'relationships' in the sex industry. Now we all know that Koreans hate when Japan is mentioned in the same breath, but there's no point in denying that both countries have strikingly similar attitudes toward women in general and sex in particular, and because the Japanese sex industry is more of an open book, I'll use it to draw out a couple of comparisons that might help illuminate the scene in Korea.
Take hostess clubs as one example of a unique sexual business found in East Asia. I know these businesses are far more common in Japan, but Korea has similar establishments where guys pay to spend time with fully clothed women. Koreans and Japanese alike seem to value spending time with charismatic, charming young women in settings where they can drink, eat, and be merry. This isn't to say that Westerners wouldn't enjoy such an experience; of course they would, but I doubt they would pay for it. And even if such a business existed in the US, it would never be quite as mainstream as in East Asia.
The equivalent in the US might be a strip club, but the experience is completely different. At hostess clubs the women flirt, pour drinks, and light cigarettes. At strip clubs the women are less functional and more ornamental; they provide nothing more than visual stimulation. This might be a particularly reductive way of understanding cultural difference between East and West, but I think it reveals an essential point of distinction between eastern and western attitudes toward women.
One of those differences is the value of virginity and the myth of sexual purity. As far as I can tell, it is important in every culture, but its importance has waned in the West while remaining relatively high in the East. And I contend that this value gets projected onto the sex industry. Consider that women at strip clubs get naked and spread their legs for everyone to see in a public demonstration. We westerners revel in such unbridled, animalistic sexuality. In contrast, I think East Asians like the tease. They enjoy the illusion that they alone might persuade a woman to take off her clothes. East Asian men value women that are only sexual in their presence, I. E. , they like a woman who is only horny for one guy. We might think it is strange that notions of purity have become entwined in the sex trade, or even doubt that such ideas are true, but consider whether there is another place in the world like Miari where prostitutes wear wedding dresses. Of course, there isn't much of a tease at Miari, but it still projects an ideal that is completely at odds with prositution.
Personally, I'm fine with a place like Miari where I know that there's action to be had, but I'm less inclined to spend money on hostesses because the experience is much more like dating in that there is no guaranteed outcome. The only guarantee is that the woman will be polite and flirtatious. When I've gone to hostess clubs I have always felt like I was being strung along, but my East Asians friends were of the mindset that "this is what I came for and this is what I like. " They enjoy the tension, and even though they pay, it was somehow important that they "earn" whatever service they might manage to get from a woman, and so whether it be a flirtatious look, a kiss, or full service in a hotel later that evening, the next day, or the next week the men could believe that it wasn't purely transactional even though they likely paid a large sum of money for the service.
This isn't to say that Korean guys are immune to the allures of a quick BJ or full service massage, but these are offered at other types of sex businesses and by other types of women. These women are sluts and working girls whereas hostesses are something different. Prostitutes in Korea can thus be categorized according to their professionalism, education, and availability. The less available, the more they are in demand. I guess what I'm saying is that the idea of the high end prostitute is further divided in Korea such that some high end prostitutes rarely even have sex and yet earn large amounts of money.
I also think paying large sums for sexual services is more common in Korea because even in the biggest western cities, where men would be most likely to spend exorbitantly, there are only a handful of gentlemen's clubs. And although there might be lots of AMPS and plenty of escort services, there are still far fewer sex services on offer than in just about any East Asian city where countless hostess clubs, noraebang, massage parlors, and the like take up space in every neighborhood.
What I don't know (and which might account for the reason Korean women work in the US) is how much of the money spent in Korea goes to the women. Considering how many pretty women there are in Korea, they might be easily replaceable and thus less able to negotiate for a larger piece of the pie. Also, Koreans have to compete with young attractive Thai and Vietnamese women who are coming in droves to work in Seoul these days. All of these factors may push down their take home pay and prompt them to seek work abroad.
I imagine the US is an attractive destination for Korean women because they can charge higher prices on average and also earn in a currency that is much stronger than the won. The market in the US is willing to bear higher prices because average incomes are higher in the US (the US average income is almost double Korea's average income). Second, American women in the aggregate are relatively less attractive which puts a price premium on attractive women. Third, although prostitution is illegal in the US and Korea, it is seemingly more illegal in the US which has the effect of pushing prices even higher. Taking this into consideration, I'm almost certain that there is less supply and more demand for good-looking prostitutes in the US, and I think it's safe to assume that Koreans who go to the US are able to fill up every available appointed time in their schedule should they wish.
One final thought on an already overly long post is that there's probably also less emotional work for the Korean women working in the US. Unlike in Korea, they don't need to establish an emotional connection or pretend to be pure and innocent with customers in the US. Westerners are much more likely to get right down to business. Add to this the fact that Korean women can live relatively anonymously in the US, which is hard to do in a place like Korea, and it makes a ripe environment for Korean women who might want to get away for a while.
Hello, I'll be in Seoul and have a couple meetings lined up. I would like to have a nice love motel with a large enough jacuzzi for two or three prople to jave some fun in. I thouhjt here wiuld be a good place to ask. Any recommendations?
New Hyugetel. Booked an appointment. Once again, the building I was sent to was conveniently located near my office.
The operator who responded to my text used English and didn't require that I call. I should say that this isn't the norm, but that from time to time it does happen. Of course, it was nice to be able to book the appointment entirely through text.
To be honest, the ads for this Hyugetel listing weren't promising as the women didn't look particularly great. All the women's weights were between 40 kg and 50 kg, but their photos showed thick and chunky upper arms, leading me to believe that the details were fabricated. Regardless, I was feeling too horny to pass.
Thankfully, I lucked out and the listed descriptions were actually more accurate than the photos. The woman I chose was thinner and more beautiful than she appeared in her photo, leading me to believe that they must have simply used a bad photographer, a cheap phone camera, or both.
Though they did not lie about the weight of the women, I found out that they fabricated their ages. The woman I met told me that she was 35 even though she was advertised as a 29 year old. It's not unusual for these women to be a few years older than their advertised age, but a 6 year age gap for a woman who had newly arrived in Korea is a larger gap than I expected. That being said, she seemed younger than she was, was prettier than I expected, had a trimmed but furry Bush, all natural but still pert tits, and a sopping wet pussy that didn't require any lube after a bit of DATY.
I had a better than expected experience and will return again when I get another break during the work day.
40 minutes Bbfscip 120,000 won.
New Hyugetel. Booked an appointment. Once again, the building I was sent to was conveniently located near my office.
The operator who responded to my text used English and didn't require that I call. I should say that this isn't the norm, but that from time to time it does happen. Of course, it was nice to be able to book the appointment entirely through text.
To be honest, the ads for this Hyugetel listing weren't promising as the women didn't look particularly great. All the women's weights were between 40 kg and 50 kg, but their photos showed thick and chunky upper arms, leading me to believe that the details were fabricated. Regardless, I was feeling too horny to pass.
Thankfully, I lucked out and the listed descriptions were actually more accurate than the photos. The woman I chose was thinner and more beautiful than she appeared in her photo, leading me to believe that they must have simply used a bad photographer, a cheap phone camera, or both.
Though they did not lie about the weight of the women, I found out that they fabricated their ages. The woman I met told me that she was 35 even though she was advertised as a 29 year old. It's not unusual for these women to be a few years older than their advertised age, but a 6 year age gap for a woman who had newly arrived in Korea is a larger gap than I expected. That being said, she seemed younger than she was, was prettier than I expected, had a trimmed but furry Bush, all natural but still pert tits, and a sopping wet pussy that didn't require any lube after a bit of DATY.
I had a better than expected experience and will return again when I get another break during the work day.
40 minutes Bbfscip 120,000 won.Thanks for this review. Can you do me some details so I can partake as well? Or at least where you found the info. TIA.
Thanks for this review. Can you do me some details so I can partake as well? Or at least where you found the info. TIA.Check out opgani14.
Check out opgani14.Great site, I have been lurking around on it.
I have been to Korea before and thought how hard can it be to find some fun around. Turns out when you don't speak a word of Korean and there are about 15 businesses in every building, its overwhelming and hard to find what one is looking for (America it's pretty easy to walk / drive down the street and find a sketchy massage where extras are guaranteed). Additionally, most sites which even referenced 'dirty things' were blocked and I had no access on my phone which I was not prepared for LOL.
I am going to Korea again this year and now am taking a methodical approach and planning, I want to find a couple of itineraries so that anyone can find it easily (once done I want to post it here to help others).
I have read some things about Anma (Erotic Sauna) and its something I definitely want to try. A lot of information even on this site is pre-COVID 19 and COVID changed everything where I can see from street-view things aren't there anymore.
1. Can someone recommend a few places that will have the girl bathe with you and sex after?
2. On the opgani14 website has anyone tried the "Fetish" section girls? (I have a feeling it won't work unless I speak Korean, but maybe someone made it work).
I ultimately want to create a map of debauchery around Soul; couple of kiss rooms, couple of massages, etc. Depending on what I want to try that day.
SlimGuy619
06-20-23, 13:02
Great site, I have been lurking around on it.
I have been to Korea before and thought how hard can it be to find some fun around. Turns out when you don't speak a word of Korean and there are about 15 businesses in every building, its overwhelming and hard to find what one is looking for (America it's pretty easy to walk / drive down the street and find a sketchy massage where extras are guaranteed). Additionally, most sites which even referenced 'dirty things' were blocked and I had no access on my phone which I was not prepared for LOL.
I am going to Korea again this year and now am taking a methodical approach and planning, I want to find a couple of itineraries so that anyone can find it easily (once done I want to post it here to help others).
I have read some things about Anma (Erotic Sauna) and its something I definitely want to try. A lot of information even on this site is pre-COVID 19 and COVID changed everything where I can see from street-view things aren't there anymore.
1. Can someone recommend a few places that will have the girl bathe with you and sex after?
2. On the opgani14 website has anyone tried the "Fetish" section girls? (I have a feeling it won't work unless I speak Korean, but maybe someone made it work).
I ultimately want to create a map of debauchery around Soul; couple of kiss rooms, couple of massages, etc. Depending on what I want to try that day.When will you be visiting? I might be able to help with a few areas. Mostly Anmas.
I've been trying to shoot my shot on Opgani14 with zero luck. The only way it seems I'll breach is if I find a random local to assist me or make really good friends with someone on this board. LOL.
SlimGuy619
06-20-23, 13:18
Little overdue, April report.
Tiffanys in Gangnam.
Was unfortunately hit with the "Caucasian" price as the MMS put it. Had limited time and and itch to scratch so I gave in. Standard procedure with the lockers, showers, ect.
Eventually am told to come to the club hallway with the nice lady who would take care of me. (Didn't catch her name, English was non-existant). Got to sit at the stool in the hallways as she BBBJ and two of her friends were feeling me all over and kissing everyone. Got to do Doggy in the hallway as well. Moved into the room to finish first shot. Quick rinse, drink break, and BBBJ with all the standard positions, finished in Doggy again. Said goodbye and MMS sent me on my way, ensuring to tell me to come back. LOL, not sure if I will.
300 k.
Went to the RLD in Youngdeungpo around 8:30 on a Monday night, maybe 7-8 places open. Shot down. Went to a bar for a few drinks and walked back. A few more places open. Shot down again. So I went to opgani and called all the hyugyetel around the area. No luck. Finally went for a Gunma. I wanted a fuck, not just a HJ, which is usually what the gunmas will give, but by this point I needed some kind of release, so I started calling the Gunmas.
Need at least a little Korean to make these calls (I tried just sending message, but got no replies, called and was shot down. Finally, got one that was fine with foreigners. It is in the entertainment district across from the RLD.
I saw a nice Chinese girl (she said she was from Nanjing). Pay up front 100 k to the house, you go in, have a shower and then the provider comes in and tells you to lie down face down.
The massage is pretty good. She spends a good amount of time on your shoulders, back and hips. Then she uses the oil to do the same area. After that, she'll go out and get some hot towels, which she puts on your back and shoulders. Then she'll focus on your legs and butt, doing much of the same. I am not an expert of massages, but I'd say this is quite relaxing, yet deep enough to have some benefit.
Once she is done with the actual massage, she will take off the hot towels and wipe off the excess oil. Then she begins a nice catbath. She covers your whole backside, and then you flip over. She'll work her way up your legs and suck on your balls and dick and begin a light BBBJ. Then she moves up to get the rest of your body and moves back down and plays with your dick some more. IT was really good.
She asked me if I want sex, only 50 k! Yes, please!
So, she goes out and grabs a condom. Back in and another enthusiastic BBBJ. DATY is available. On with the cover and she is actually quite tight. Enjoyed myself and was on my way.
150 k for a nice 1 hour long massage with catbath, ccbj and CFS is a pretty decent deal. So good in fact, I went twice! I wanted to see another girl, but at the time I went, only she was available, but I was told another time to catch a different girl, but didn't have the time to go again.
Of course, YMMV, but I was glad I took the chance.
Finally, got one that was fine with foreigners. It is in the entertainment district across from the RLD.Please: a business name, address, or description of the building / sign.
When will you be visiting? I might be able to help with a few areas. Mostly Anmas.
I've been trying to shoot my shot on Opgani14 with zero luck. The only way it seems I'll breach is if I find a random local to assist me or make really good friends with someone on this board. LOL.I will be there for the month of November.
About Opgani14, I see. I will expect the worst.
Great site, I have been lurking around on it.
I have been to Korea before and thought how hard can it be to find some fun around. Turns out when you don't speak a word of Korean and there are about 15 businesses in every building, its overwhelming and hard to find what one is looking for (America it's pretty easy to walk / drive down the street and find a sketchy massage where extras are guaranteed). Additionally, most sites which even referenced 'dirty things' were blocked and I had no access on my phone which I was not prepared for LOL.
I am going to Korea again this year and now am taking a methodical approach and planning, I want to find a couple of itineraries so that anyone can find it easily (once done I want to post it here to help others).
I have read some things about Anma (Erotic Sauna) and its something I definitely want to try. A lot of information even on this site is pre-COVID 19 and COVID changed everything where I can see from street-view things aren't there anymore.
1. Can someone recommend a few places that will have the girl bathe with you and sex after?
2. On the opgani14 website has anyone tried the "Fetish" section girls? (I have a feeling it won't work unless I speak Korean, but maybe someone made it work).
I ultimately want to create a map of debauchery around Soul; couple of kiss rooms, couple of massages, etc. Depending on what I want to try that day.You're right. Korea has changed substantially since 2019, and I worry that most of the reports written before that no longer contain much practical information.
To answer your first question, I think some of the anmas offer a soapland type experience, but I'm not sure which of them do. If you've read the forum, then you'll have heard about the club experiences at places like Donuts and Tiffany. Both have English language websites with maps and directions, and both seem to accept foreign customers. However, the service is a bit pricey.
To address your other question, I have to state the obvious, which is that without a working knowledge of Korean you're going to have a hard time gaining access to services on Opgani. In particular, the niche services such as fetish are almost certainly unavailable to foreigners. Even those of us who speak Korean aren't able to book at such places. I'm not saying you shouldn't call, but don't get your hopes up and prepared to be rejected a lot. Check out Phloppy's recent report where he mentioned that the was rejected by all but one shop in a neighborhood.
Good luck.
Also, I want to post some recent news. Check out the link below which reports that crackdowns are hitting closer to home. The article reports that a Hyugetel in Songpa was recently busted.
https://n.news.naver.com/article/003/0011916798
I can't be certain that this is one of the Hyugetels that I've been to, but as a regular in the Jamsil area it is entirely possible. I've noticed that a handful of Jamsil area ads have been pulled down in the past few months. Two of them were places I regularly visited. Unfortunately, the news articles doesn't mention the Hyugetel that was busted by name.
SlimGuy619
06-21-23, 06:59
You're right. Korea has changed substantially since 2019, and I worry that most of the reports written before that no longer contain much practical information.
To answer your first question, I think some of the anmas offer a soapland type experience, but I'm not sure which of them do. If you've read the forum, then you'll have heard about the club experiences at places like Donuts and Tiffany. Both have English language websites with maps and directions, and both seem to accept foreign customers. However, the service is a bit pricey.
To address your other question, I have to state the obvious, which is that without a working knowledge of Korean you're going to have a hard time gaining access to services on Opgani. In particular, the niche services such as fetish are almost certainly unavailable to foreigners. Even those of us who speak Korean aren't able to book at such places. I'm not saying you shouldn't call, but don't get your hopes up and prepared to be rejected a lot. Check out Phloppy's recent report where he mentioned that the was rejected by all but one shop in a neighborhood.
Good luck.
Also, I want to post some recent news. Check out the link below which reports that crackdowns are hitting closer to home. The article reports that a Hyugetel in Songpa was recently busted.
https://n.news.naver.com/article/003/0011916798
I can't be certain that this is one of the Hyugetels that I've been to, but as a regular in the Jamsil area it is entirely possible. I've noticed that a handful of Jamsil area ads have been pulled down in the past few months. Two of them were places I regularly visited. Unfortunately, the news articles doesn't mention the Hyugetel that was busted by name.Speaking of Hyugetels, is that different than Resttels? I've gotten pretty far into the "reservation" process with a couple Resttels only to hit the same reservation deposit schtick towards the end. In all my experiences, I've never deposited in any of my hobbies except very exceptional situations.
Have you ever ran into being asked to deposit funds prior to booking?
Speaking of Hyugetels, is that different than Resttels? I've gotten pretty far into the "reservation" process with a couple Resttels only to hit the same reservation deposit schtick towards the end. In all my experiences, I've never deposited in any of my hobbies except very exceptional situations.
Have you ever ran into being asked to deposit funds prior to booking?Yes. Hyugetel translate directly to rest-tel. It shares its root with the word hyugeso, which you might recognize as the name for highway rest stop in Korea.
If you're being asked to make a deposit, you're being jerked around. Payment is always in cash and it's always paid to the woman at the location. Words to such effect are also posted on many of the ads. Scammers have gotten hold of some phone numbers used by these businesses and tried to bait money out of guys.
FYI, among all the places I've ever contacted in Korea, I've never been asked to send payment in advance. To make sure that they get paid for each appointment, the operator usually sends a stock message stating that failure to show will result in being black listed. So, if you book an appointment, make sure to be on time. If you don't show up, they'll block your number.
SlimGuy619
06-21-23, 11:33
Yes. Hyugetel translate directly to rest-tel. It shares its root with the word hyugeso, which you might recognize as the name for highway rest stop in Korea.
If you're being asked to make a deposit, you're being jerked around. Payment is always in cash and it's always paid to the woman at the location. Words to such effect are also posted on many of the ads. Scammers have gotten hold of some phone numbers used by these businesses and tried to bait money out of guys.
FYI, among all the places I've ever contacted in Korea, I've never been asked to send payment in advance. To make sure that they get paid for each appointment, the operator usually sends a stock message stating that failure to show will result in being black listed. So, if you book an appointment, make sure to be on time. If you don't show up, they'll block your number.Great information man, I appreciate all your contributions. I'll keep fishin'.
Have you ever ran into being asked to deposit funds prior to booking?Never have, never will. I've done a few Hyugyetels in my day, and never had to deposit. It screams scam to me.
Please: a business name, address, or description of the building / sign.On opgani, it is listed as beauty girl. Ad is nothing like reality. It is a massage shop with a little play (YMMV) and the fun time transaction is with the provider.
Korean is a must as the girl who answers the phone has zero English. She seems foreign, but her Korean is pretty good. As is usually the case, I would love to have been massaged by her!
On opgani, it is listed as beauty girl. Ad is nothing like reality. It is a massage shop with a little play (YMMV) and the fun time transaction is with the provider.
Korean is a must as the girl who answers the phone has zero English. She seems foreign, but her Korean is pretty good. As is usually the case, I would love to have been massaged by her!The business names on Opgani are usually different from the ones on the actual place of business. Was Beauty Girl on the 2nd floor with the shop name 'Secret'?
SlimGuy619
06-22-23, 16:17
Finally made it. And it was amazing.
Reached out to a Lip Cafe nearby via text message. Thankfully he was willing to work with me and the managers were friendly enough to me. He tells me a location to arrive at and to send him a text message when I do. I arrive near a 7 Eleven and he instructs me with the exact location. I go up a nearby elevator and and he buzzes me in.
I pay for the Relay Course. One shot + rest + One shot.
Familiar SOP to other places I've been to. He leads me to a room and kindly instructs me to take a shower and return to the room.
First manager walks in, believe her name was something like Yujin? Either way, she's a solid 7+ in the petite department. She has some small English speaking skills so we had minor introductions and she was very nice. She starts with the usual chest kissing and licking, and moves down to the main event. Fairly decent BBBJ, a little fast paced for me and not deep or sloppy enough. But it's fine. She works that for about 10 minutes, then applies lube to HJ me and goes back to the chest licking. I get close, she gets the hint, and takes the CIM like a champ. Was a fairly large load. She asks me how long I'd like to rest, I hit the showers and come back to the room to cool down.
Manager #2 walks in. Talkin? Taljin? Her English was worst but she was a solid busty 8+ with short hair. She hits business the same exact procedure, except hers is just a tad bit wetter, deeper, and slurpier. She actually makes me bust in literally about 5 Minutes, I couldn't hold out. She takes the CIM impressively well and kept locked on until the sensation passed.
10/10. Exactly the kind of service I needed.
Damage: 90 k.
Edit; Also, if anyone can help identify some of these terms I couldn't figure out on their menu? I'm aware of the terms post that BonJovi made some time ago in this thread, but they weren't covered in there.
성탈
관잔
버가
Finally made it. And it was amazing.
Reached out to a Lip Cafe nearby via text message. Thankfully he was willing to work with me and the managers were friendly enough to me. He tells me a location to arrive at and to send him a text message when I do. I arrive near a 7 Eleven and he instructs me with the exact location. I go up a nearby elevator and and he buzzes me in.
I pay for the Relay Course. One shot + rest + One shot.
Familiar SOP to other places I've been to. He leads me to a room and kindly instructs me to take a shower and return to the room.
First manager walks in, believe her name was something like Yujin? Either way, she's a solid 7+ in the petite department. She has some small English speaking skills so we had minor introductions and she was very nice. She starts with the usual chest kissing and licking, and moves down to the main event. Fairly decent BBBJ, a little fast paced for me and not deep or sloppy enough. But it's fine. She works that for about 10 minutes, then applies lube to HJ me and goes back to the chest licking. I get close, she gets the hint, and takes the CIM like a champ. Was a fairly large load. She asks me how long I'd like to rest, I hit the showers and come back to the room to cool down.
Manager #2 walks in. Talkin? Taljin? Her English was worst but she was a solid busty 8+ with short hair. She hits business the same exact procedure, except hers is just a tad bit wetter, deeper, and slurpier. She actually makes me bust in literally about 5 Minutes, I couldn't hold out. She takes the CIM impressively well and kept locked on until the sensation passed.
10/10. Exactly the kind of service I needed.
Damage: 90 k.
Edit; Also, if anyone can help identify some of these terms I couldn't figure out on their menu? I'm aware of the terms post that BonJovi made some time ago in this thread, but they weren't covered in there.
성탈
관잔
버가Great post. Thanks for writing up the report. I've never been to a lip cafe before, but based on your report it sounds like a great way to spend an afternoon. Also, great value for money.
Any idea of how long they might let you wait between shots. Do you think they would let you nap for an hour?
Great post. Thanks for writing up the report. I've never been to a lip cafe before, but based on your report it sounds like a great way to spend an afternoon. Also, great value for money.
Any idea of how long they might let you wait between shots. Do you think they would let you nap for an hour?
상 탈 means topless.
올 탈 means fully naked.
버 거 or 햄 버 거 means tit fuck.
부 비 부 비 means body to body grinding.
69 관 전 means spectate. In the context of the 69, it means you can watch but not touch. In others words, the woman will get in 69 position and blow you while you stare at her pussy.
69 역 립 means you can participate and touch. In other words you can kiss back.
SlimGuy619
06-23-23, 07:43
Great post. Thanks for writing up the report. I've never been to a lip cafe before, but based on your report it sounds like a great way to spend an afternoon. Also, great value for money.
Any idea of how long they might let you wait between shots. Do you think they would let you nap for an hour?That's a good question actually. The first manager asked me how long I needed, I told her about 15 m, second manager walked in right about the 20 m mark, which I didn't mind. I'm sure if theyre not busy they might be lenient to a little nap if that's what you wanted haha.
상 탈 means topless.
올 탈 means fully naked.
버 거 or 햄 버 거 means tit fuck.
부 비 부 비 means body to body grinding.
69 관 전 means spectate. In the context of the 69, it means you can watch but not touch. In others words, the woman will get in 69 position and blow you while you stare at her pussy.
69 역 립 means you can participate and touch. In other words you can kiss back.TY so much. Going to see if I can tailor a course request with this information.
The business names on Opgani are usually different from the ones on the actual place of business. Was Beauty Girl on the 2nd floor with the shop name 'Secret'?No, it was 4th floor. Name was Hu Body something.
Ok, I've had some time to digest this, so here goes.
I had a 3 hour appointment with a provider I had wanted to see for a long while. We had been texting back and forth for a few weeks and the anticipation for me was through the roof. I badly wanted to see her! Well, she canceled on me the day before ("I have a cold.").
So I messaged a few others to try and fill the massive void. Right away Nami came to my rescue and said she would like to meet me. Ok, done.
Well, the next day she goes silent. No messages all day, so I start trying to find another appointment.
Another provider says, yes I'm available. Ok, tell her the time and amount of hours I want. Couple hours later, and oh, I have another client, can we meet after midnight? Well, no, I have an early flight. So on to another, I have a couple bites, but not at optimum time or amount of time.
Finally, Nami responds back (hour after our agreed upon time). She had to take her cat to the vet. Ok, I am an animal lover myself, so I understand. We are able to arrange a meeting still, so I get ready to meet her.
Her incall place is a bit dingy, and already I can tell I'm not really in the mood. I should have just canceled. But, you know how it goes.
Anyway, she washes me (no shower together, she already showered.) Into the room, and right away she goes into a BBBJ. Now, I had booked 2 hours. I wanted to take my time, get to know her and her body (which is quite nice, BTW.) but she had other plans. Well I couldn't perform well. I got hard enough to fuck her once, but it was lackluster. While in mish, I was going to kiss, but she was closed mouth. No DFK. So I bust, she cleans me up, and cleans herself, then we cuddle and talk.
She is a nice girl. Good conversation. All while she was stroking me, trying to get a reaction, but I was done. I ended up leaving after 45 minutes.
A shame, really. I had wanted to see Nami at some point as she is well reviewed and she is quite beautiful with all the right curves.
I would say this is 70% on me that we didn't have a good time, but there were several things that she could have done better.
I should have just found a hyugyetel or lip cafe. But after so many call and rejections, its easy to go with the sure thing.
I've had excellent experiences on MR with Valentina and Riko/Emily, and Nami was highly recommended.
As always in this hobby, YMMV.
Thanks for the report! How did you find the establishment? I was wanting to visit during my trip to Korea too. I tried looking up Honey Cafe but couldn't find anything in Korean either.
Finally made it. And it was amazing.
Reached out to a Lip Cafe nearby via text message. Thankfully he was willing to work with me and the managers were friendly enough to me. He tells me a location to arrive at and to send him a text message when I do. I arrive near a 7 Eleven and he instructs me with the exact location. I go up a nearby elevator and and he buzzes me in.
I pay for the Relay Course. One shot + rest + One shot.
Familiar SOP to other places I've been to. He leads me to a room and kindly instructs me to take a shower and return to the room.
What is generally the type of place where the provider showers together with you before massage and FS?
SlimGuy619
06-24-23, 05:53
Thanks for the report! How did you find the establishment? I was wanting to visit during my trip to Korea too. I tried looking up Honey Cafe but couldn't find anything in Korean either.Countless hours of contacting locations on Opgani. You'll need to register for an account there.
SlimGuy619
06-25-23, 12:48
Went back for another quick release.
They only had one manager working today so the options available, along with the courses, were limited. I pulled the trigger anyways since I enjoyed the last visit.
Went for a Nude+69+Touch/Kiss course. 70 k₩.
Standard fair. Manager was probably a 6. 5. Definitely cute and super friendly. Nice natural be cups and okay butt. Her BBBJ was decent, HJ, and lastly finished CIM in 69.
Overall, not as good as last time, but it's hard for me to turn down a CIM experience with younger cute girls.
SeoulSearching
06-25-23, 16:35
Just wanted to note that the MR regular TiffanyHuang is also on LiveJasmine webcams. I still can't figure out of she is TR or not.
Contacted a fairly new Hyugetel in Jamsil. They only had two women listed, but they both offered anal under their optional services, leading me to believe that these two women would be up for anything.
When I reached out, the operator responded in English, which was a pleasant surprise. However, his immediate response was concern with my dick size. He said I could book an appointment, but that the women would reserve the right to ask me to leave after I dropped my trousers. Considering that I hadn't even mentioned that I was interested in the anal course yet, the chance that I would get good service didn't bode well.
As I didn't want to waste a perfectly good evening, I booked at an old familiar Hyugetel in Jamsil instead. However, the new woman I booked was 10 years older than advertised and nearly 10 kilos heavier. This didn't spoil the mood too much as she had a great attitude and offered great service, but I was surprised by the bait and switch. I was expecting a lovely, shapely, well-endowed young woman to open the door and I was instead provided a mom. It seems that some Hyugetels aren't quite as dependable as they once were. I hope my recent experiences are a blip rather than a trend.
60 min bbfscip plus an extra HJ 150,000 won.
https://n.news.naver.com/article/025/0003288641
The operator of one of the large customer databases was busted. Read the article to get a sense of how and why the databases are used. It's really quite fascinating.
Just wanted to note that the MR regular TiffanyHuang is also on LiveJasmine webcams. I still can't figure out of she is TR or not.Aren't all the "girls" on MR trans?
First time poster here but just want to make this post since a lot of the info was really buried deep into this forum so this is for the lazy people who don't read too far back.
First thing first if you want to engage in any type of Hyugetel a Korean phone number is a must so when you arrive to Korea and want to indulge in these you should get a sim card with call and text.
I was able to contact some of these hyugetel because I borrowed a Korean phone from a relative (hopefully they never find out because that would be hella awkward) for context I am half Korean so I know how to speak a small amount of Korean and thankfully it was good enough to make a appointment but God bless imagine translating to help understand the services and location I had to go.
Also going to piggyback on a older post from Bonjovi3, there is zero chance you will ever randomly find these hyugetel I got a reservation for a hyugetel at guyu-dong and it was inside a upper scale building with no name at the entrance of the building that requires a code to even enter the elevator.
The girl has big tits but she was Taiwanese so her small Korean and my small Korean made conversation extremely low so it was shower fun and smashed and leave.
Overall cost was 170 k for 70 mins bbfscip body was a 9 - sex was feels great but doesn't have that GFE feel it during the post nut recovery or during the 2nd go.
Would tried to go for more but I didn't feel like pushing my luck when I am not using my own phone so maybe the next time I won't get a esim and just a calling sim instead.
Hey buddies,
I am coming to Seoul next week on a business trip, but want to have some fun too. I heard that Seoul has some red light areas like Amsterdam for fun. Do you guys have recommendations for me?
If you can share contact details of any cuties who can come to a 4/5 star hotel within reasonable price, please share. It will be a great help.
Thanks in advance.
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