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Ragnarok42
05-18-10, 01:46
Speaking of these txt messages, last week I followed up on some of them, don't bother, they are SCAMS total SCAMS.


You know they are even calling me now all the time, actual girls asking me when can I meet them or if I want girls. I got my balls up and actually got a girl from one of them recently.

She asked for 5K for an 18YO but I bargained her down. The girl was cute but real energizer bunny. So so sex but fairly nice, but dont think I will ever try that agency again. Kept being on my toes, afraid of some shake down or raid, so didnt enjoy myself.

Will stick with my regular provider and my other side projects for now. But some of them are not scams, if they call you then its probably legit.

Member #4214
05-18-10, 04:32
you know they are even calling me now all the time, actual girls asking me when can i meet them or if i want girls. i got my balls up and actually got a girl from one of them recently ...

i suspect some of these girls also cold call random numbers and chat up men, if indeed a man answers. i had my **** daughter's mobile on hand, and when i answered a call some chick started talkin' me up like some ktv girl fishing for a repeater. it could only have been a cold call, because that phone is only turned on for about 1 hr a day, excluding weekends. and after i hung up abruptly she didn't call back.

had me rattled for a moment, because it would not be pleasant to have some ghost from monger's past dialing the domestic numbers. :-0

Hollow Man Abc
05-18-10, 08:27
Thanks James for the broad analysis and advice. Money keeps the ball rowing. Every person's financial capability is different. The more money you have, the higher the tendency you are going to end up with a beautiful girl if you are talking about FS. Although I have limited experiences, basically less than 10 times FS, I do prefer freelancers or the so-called independents instead of from escort/massage agency etc. Because these girls have a boss to report to, you will hear the mobile phone keeps ringing once the time is up. Very irritating! Independents are better. If they like you, they stay with you longer time, they charge you lesser for FS and so on. If they don't like you, they reject you on the spot, that's it. So, it is a bit dissappointing to know that freelancers or dependents do not exist in Taipei. Are there independents in Luxy or Roxy looking for potential customers?

By the way, everyone is talking about YUKI. Just to make sure I am correct, Yuki refers to the massage advertisment on Taipei Times. Why Yuki? There are a dozen of them in Taipei Times. Which one is the best?

James Chang 313
05-18-10, 21:58
I go to Roxy and Luxy often and I've not seen any girls who are obviously providers. All girls dress kinda slutty at clubs and no one has ever approach me before.

Yuki is mentioned a lot because she's one of the main advertisers in Taipei Times and can deal with foreigners. Most people who don't speak mandarin have no other choices. If you speak chinese, then you have other options.

If you really prefer independents, I have girl i go to regularly, that I can set you up with. She's pretty and charges 6k. I'll have to ask her first tho. You can PM me if you want me to ask, and I will give you my email address.


Thanks James for the broad analysis and advice. Money keeps the ball rowing. Every person's financial capability is different. The more money you have, the higher the tendency you are going to end up with a beautiful girl if you are talking about FS. Although I have limited experiences, basically less than 10 times FS, I do prefer freelancers or the so-called independents instead of from escort/massage agency etc. Because these girls have a boss to report to, you will hear the mobile phone keeps ringing once the time is up. Very irritating! Independents are better. If they like you, they stay with you longer time, they charge you lesser for FS and so on. If they don't like you, they reject you on the spot, that's it. So, it is a bit dissappointing to know that freelancers or dependents do not exist in Taipei. Are there independents in Luxy or Roxy looking for potential customers?

By the way, everyone is talking about YUKI. Just to make sure I am correct, Yuki refers to the massage advertisment on Taipei Times. Why Yuki? There are a dozen of them in Taipei Times. Which one is the best?

Abc Boy
05-19-10, 01:50
Ok guys, just wanted to share a real dumb thing that an experience monger should never do, fall in love with a KTV girl, which is what happened to me the last 3 days (which is why you only heard one KTV girl report for my current trip.)

Anyway, went to KTV looking for fun, but saw this girl walked by in the lobby, and you know how guys will always have a perfect dream girl in their minds? Hair style, facial features, body, height, etc. Well, I never thought I would find such a person but I did, so I quickly told my manager I want her. But he smiled and say: "Sorry, you won't like her, she doesn't do take-outs...." For the first time in my life at the KTV I let my brain do the thinking instead of my little brother, and I told him: "no worries, I want her, no take outs"

Spend 1 hour in the KTV room, sing and talk and holy crap she's perfect in personality and composure too, my dream girl. So took her out TO EAT (clean take out. When KTV manager says "take out" it usually means FS, when girls only do clean take out the proper way to say it is to "TO EAT") And ate her favorite food, took her to a few party places, and called it a night.

Next day, bought her a full day (so she's all my), cost me mucho money. Still, typical fun like a dumb-ass couple, nothing more. Day after that, full f-cking day again. Again just your average couple going out, nothing special.

I'm glad my business trip is over and I had to return to the States, what kind of f-cking tard was I wasting enough money to screw 3-4 KTV girls on her, and all I got was.... NOTHING!

Mongers, never make my mistake!!!!! Darn I'm so f-cking weak when I saw my perfect dream girl. And you know what, if I return to Taipei I'll probably be the same IDIOT AGAIN! I need to see a shrink.....

Abc Boy
05-19-10, 01:52
By the way, everyone is talking about YUKI. Just to make sure I am correct, Yuki refers to the massage advertisment on Taipei Times. Why Yuki? There are a dozen of them in Taipei Times. Which one is the best?

YUKI is not massage parlor but a phone number you call for a "massage girl" but all they do really is FS you and leave. Since the time is short (50 minutes) you can ask for a massage first but remember time is short.

Remember, don't fall for the "we now charge 5K" BS, it's still 3K, just say, "all my friends only pay 3K" and they will laugh and say: "ok ok, 3K, hahaha", yeah hahahha, F-U

Abc Boy
05-19-10, 02:08
Honestly, i have never been to KTV in Taipei before. No offences, because i don't know much about this. In my opinion, I most probably would not take the girls out of KTV because i find it bizzare. What I find it strange is that why gone through so many steps to find a girl ? As you said it, the girl will do it for 7k. That means 11k would be spent on the stupid KTV. Is there anyway to directly contact the girls ? I would rather spend 18k on the pretty girl i like for her to stay up with me for one day, 24 hours and 10k to stay with me overnight from midnight to 7am and maybe, 2 to 3k tips for the manager or mamasan or escort agency for acting as middleman who offer good quality service. Can this be arranged ?

Once again, thank you very much for your advice.

Because the money you pay a share goes to the girls, and helps them meet a quota so they don't get "fines" and get reduce pay. Like I said the girls actually prefer you buy them through the agency so they don't get fine, and usually the top earners get "special treatment" from the managers.

I'm heading back to the States, but if you are still around in late July we can meet up in Taipei and I'll take you to Emperor, in my opinion the best KTV place in Taipei in terms of overall girl quality, and none of the girls are older than 25.

So, in short, if you want girls 18-25, model quality, train to treat you like an emperor, and have FS service, you need to come to KTV and get ready to spend 20K

Ragnarok42
05-19-10, 11:04
Mongers, never make my mistake!!!!! Darn I'm so f-cking weak when I saw my perfect dream girl. And you know what, if I return to Taipei I'll probably be the same IDIOT AGAIN! I need to see a shrink.....

Dude you are only human, even mongers have feelings. We all have stories of that ONE girl that we had a great time with but never even got to first base with. She might even have liked me in return but not enough to forget the fact that she met me in a place that has P4P.

If you see her again on a later return trip, chances are you WILL get some action because I find many of these girls really value restraint and loyalty. They know you can get someone else or find someone else, but the fact that you stick with her tells her something.

The only problem is what happens if something does happen...haha

Then the really important questions start popping up.

Abc Boy
05-20-10, 15:25
Dude you are only human, even mongers have feelings. We all have stories of that ONE girl that we had a great time with but never even got to first base with. She might even have liked me in return but not enough to forget the fact that she met me in a place that has P4P.

If you see her again on a later return trip, chances are you WILL get some action because I find many of these girls really value restraint and loyalty. They know you can get someone else or find someone else, but the fact that you stick with her tells her something.

The only problem is what happens if something does happen...haha

Then the really important questions start popping up.


Thanks for encouragement. Love is a curse, all my "player skills" went to nil when I'm with her. I can get into the pants of any woman except her... hahaha

Anyway, I'm hoping two months of work in USA will let me get over it so I can go back to my player days of KTV girls... So many girls, so little time....

Cool Guy 141
05-24-10, 15:00
Anybody want to go mongering tonight, tomorrow, or possibly Wednesday night? I'm new to this site and in Taipei for a few days. Don't know the scene and interested in learning the ropes.

Smuttynose
05-24-10, 19:36
i went down to the longshan area tonight to see what was around. truth be told, i wanted my first taste of the action down there, and i wasn't thinking too clearly. around 12 am i made my way on my motorcycle around heping / kangding, where not much was happening. kangding / guilin corner was also a bit quiet, with no real beauties about. so i did what i've done a lot of lately, rode south down a road near the kangding / guilin corner, and parked my bike. a lot of the time, the girls take the johns down that small road to a few hotels, and sometimes you can spot a real cutie all alone. tonight, however, as soon as i pulled up and parked a guy came out of a building, noticed me, and kept on staring at me. uncomfortable, as i always feel out of place in that area, i rode off, and decided to try my luck in the momo tea shops behind the night market.

i rode on heping past xichang st. which parallels huaxi, and pulled into an alley that goes up toward the nightmarket. noticing what looked like a group of three cute working girls walking up that alley, i parked my bike and tried to make eye contact with the one i liked. she didn't notice or didn't want to notice me, but as i looked to the other direction, i saw a cute looking older lady, maybe 40 yrs old, sitting on a moped looking at me. she quickly made her way over with her ugly, 50 yr old friend. now at this point, sadly, i was already sold. she said 1k to go over to one of her shops, and for the life of me i don't know why i was thinking it was a good deal. the 1k is just like an entry fee to sit in those rooms, drink tea and touch the girls. now i should have known this, as i have read up on it on this site, but at the time i was just nervous, and amazed i was actually going through with it.

we walked into one of the shops, entered one of those rooms, and i refused to pay until afterwards, but they smelled a newb and weren't taking no for an answer. in the end, the boss came to the room, and i just decided to give them the money and go for it. well, they stayed, and we sat chatting and touching for a bit. the cute one had a great bod. perky see cups, a pretty nice face, and nice legs. the other one was considerably older, fatter, and uglier with glasses. i like them a bit older, but not that old. i read on here that you can pay them to leave, but damn i was nervous and didn't want to be rude! anyway, later on i asked for more service. they wanted 1k more for a blow job with both of them, and i payed it after my pathetic attempt at haggling failed. again, i made the mistake of paying first, but they did stay and do the warm tea cbj on me, the old one sucking while i touched the cute one and she kissed my chest. the whole time they seemed really worried about the police, and kept on brightening and dimming the lights, and staying out of view from the small peep whole in the door. it all made me nervous and put me out of the mood a bit. but at least i had my first time with two girls blowing me, that was a first, but cbj's just don't do it for me. i could only shoot once they took the damn condom off and hj'd. all in all, for 2k i was less than thrilled. the cute one i liked had a pushy attitude, and i couldn't relax with her. at least i got to practice my chinese. she said she didn't do sex, but could introduce me to some that could. i didn't bother, and quickly left.

i've really got to learn to say what i want up front, be able to haggle, and also be able to walk away if the deal ain't right. this time, though, i was too anxious to break my cherry and go through with it. next time, i won't be so anxious to get it over with.

Abc Boy
05-25-10, 12:20
You should really avoid Longshan area if you are looking for women in their late 20s and early 30s.

Read up on this site and go to Caesars, for 4300 you get a massage with "tricks", FS, and a girl right at your age alley (late 20s to early 30s.)

Exile
05-27-10, 09:00
I went down to the Longshan area

1. The momo tea shops appear to be where the con artists are. I have had girls, after getting inside the rooms, say that they don't have sex and, generally, I believe them as that is their scam. If you ever hang out in the area, you can see stunning girls go down an alley with a guy and then pop out a few minutes later - I have to assume that she delivered him to a shop that had less appealing girls in it.

2. You didn't get off that bad. Call it $1,500 for the learning experience and $500 for the bj.



You should really avoid Longshan area if you are looking for women in their late 20s and early 30s.

The last time I was over there, I saw perhaps 50 girls in this age range. Certainly, you aren't going to find many early 20s and the selection comes and goes but picking from the hundred or so girls who are usually working is better in many ways than taking the girl sent by Ceasar's. Ceasar's is a tasteless chain restaurant - Longshan is fast food. Neither is particularly fantastic but it's hard to compare.

Abc Boy
05-27-10, 09:56
Ok, I guess Longshan has changed over the years. In my more youthful days I used to scout that area extensively and the youngest woman I found is late 30s early 40s.

Glad to hear younger girls are there.

Joe In A Shell
05-27-10, 18:06
Going to Taipei for the second time in June. Need advice from the experienced pros here so I get a better experience this time round. I am of native Chinese heritage, and can speak mandarin, read/write.

I was there last May, and managed to contact a KTV manager via a local sex forum. Went to "Shou Xi" (roughly translates to Best/Front Seat), and took the first girl he brought out. I am not a good drinker at all, so didn't really know how to carry the atmosphere inside the room, and that probably led to a lack of chemistry between me and the girl. We basically just chatted and played the dice until the strip dance on the 1st hour.

I didn't really understand how the system of switching girls worked, but still wanted some action, so I ended up doing the takeaway after the 1st hour strip dance, paying for the rest of her time (until 6.30am that is). Cost me around $18K.

So we ended up back in the hotel after a light supper, we did the SOP sex, didn't try to prolong the session in anyway. After I shot out and recovered, I signalled for a second round, but she said they are only ALLOWED by the management to do the deed once. I tried a little smoothtalk, didn't work out, so I didn't insist for fear of getting into trouble. So we snuggled until 5.30 am (invoking the 1-hour transport rule) before she left for the KTV to 'clock out'.

My burning Questions:

1. From the previous posts I gathered on this forum, it seems that you can get multiple shots from the girl if the chemistry is right? The local Taiwan sex forums do not explicitly mention this. A lot of coded language is used in their posts (non native speakers will have trouble deciphering).

2. According the the local forums, the girl does not need to 'clock out' if you buy the rest of her time right? If so, she probably was just making an excuse, and if the chemistry is right, she could stay past 6.30am?

3. How to charm the girl when on a solo trip, and there's no group fun. I didn't have any ideas on how to keep the naughty/entertainment quotient high.

Apologies for the long ramble.

Roni44
05-28-10, 04:10
Going to Taipei for the second time in June. Need advice from the experienced pros here so I get a better experience this time round. I am of native Chinese heritage, and can speak mandarin, read/write.

I was there last May, and managed to contact a KTV manager via a local sex forum. Went to "Shou Xi" (roughly translates to Best/Front Seat), and took the first girl he brought out. I am not a good drinker at all, so didn't really know how to carry the atmosphere inside the room, and that probably led to a lack of chemistry between me and the girl. We basically just chatted and played the dice until the strip dance on the 1st hour.

I didn't really understand how the system of switching girls worked, but still wanted some action, so I ended up doing the takeaway after the 1st hour strip dance, paying for the rest of her time (until 6.30am that is). Cost me around $18K.

So we ended up back in the hotel after a light supper, we did the SOP sex, didn't try to prolong the session in anyway. After I shot out and recovered, I signalled for a second round, but she said they are only ALLOWED by the management to do the deed once. I tried a little smoothtalk, didn't work out, so I didn't insist for fear of getting into trouble. So we snuggled until 5.30 am (invoking the 1-hour transport rule) before she left for the KTV to 'clock out'.

My burning Questions:

1. From the previous posts I gathered on this forum, it seems that you can get multiple shots from the girl if the chemistry is right? The local Taiwan sex forums do not explicitly mention this. A lot of coded language is used in their posts (non native speakers will have trouble deciphering).

2. According the the local forums, the girl does not need to 'clock out' if you buy the rest of her time right? If so, she probably was just making an excuse, and if the chemistry is right, she could stay past 6.30am?

3. How to charm the girl when on a solo trip, and there's no group fun. I didn't have any ideas on how to keep the naughty/entertainment quotient high.

Apologies for the long ramble.

1. Take out ususally allow one session, but then again, you would want to express to the gal that you would like to have few pops before commit to take her out. If the gal likes you, few pops shouldn't be a problem.

2. The girls do not need to clock out, all they need to do is make a quick phone call.

3. All ktv allow you to change the gals during your time in room, but you would want to change as early as possible. When you are one on one with the gal, relax and drink, they are there to please you. Few lines almost always worked for me are:
you are the best thing I've ever laid my eyes on since I've arrived in Taiwan, or you are so much better looking then most of ABC gals back home. (many Taiwanese gals idolize ABC gals due to western influence, they think ABC knows how to dresses, make ups more class or elegance) So by saying they are better looking and etc than ABC gals, that really gets them going. Drinking games are good ice breaker too, think of a silly punishment to get the mood going.

One last thing, ask your manager if the establishment allow in room FS, if you are going solo and met the right gal, many places allow in room FS. Instead of go to a love motel and etc, pay the extra, between 3000~4000 on top of your room charges and fees, then do the deed and go home or stay for the second session with different gals. (thats if you dont mind doing in the ktv room with no bed and etc).

Abc Boy
05-28-10, 15:35
I was there last May, and managed to contact a KTV manager via a local sex forum. Went to "Shou Xi" (roughly translates to Best/Front Seat), and took the first girl he brought out. I am not a good drinker at all, so didn't really know how to carry the atmosphere inside the room, and that probably led to a lack of chemistry between me and the girl. We basically just chatted and played the dice until the strip dance on the 1st hour.



One thing Taiwan girls are easy to fall for: sweet talk. Tell her she's the best girl you've met, has the best personality, has the best smile, you get the idea. Don't be shy to touch her too (but not be too perverted, at least not right away, hahaha), and complement on her soft and beautiful skin. Play some games with goofy punishment to break the ice, and then the rest is easier if you can do all that.




I didn't really understand how the system of switching girls worked, but still wanted some action, so I ended up doing the takeaway after the 1st hour strip dance, paying for the rest of her time (until 6.30am that is). Cost me around $18K.



Don't be shy to say "no" or "I want to see others" when the girls sent into your room isn't to your liking. Right now in all my KTV visits I average 3-4 "kicks", and it used to be 8-9 "kicks" until my manager finally gives in and know not to waste my time with average girls. Remember, they may be run by gangsters, but they value your money (and repeat business) and they may curse you behind your back (which I heard a couple of times behind the doors), but hey, have a thick face, you're the payer, they're the seller.

18K is about right for KTV girl take out + FS.




So we ended up back in the hotel after a light supper, we did the SOP sex, didn't try to prolong the session in anyway. After I shot out and recovered, I signalled for a second round, but she said they are only ALLOWED by the management to do the deed once. I tried a little smoothtalk, didn't work out, so I didn't insist for fear of getting into trouble. So we snuggled until 5.30 am (invoking the 1-hour transport rule) before she left for the KTV to 'clock out'.



I usually don't do more than one because I want to save some for the new girl tomorrow, and the new girl after that, and after that, lol. But actually, they WILL DO more (I've done it in the past) IF you pay the fee again. Remember, they didn't do you because they like you, they do you because you've paid them. Offer to pay the exact same fee again and you'll be amaze how fast they are willing to spread again. Of course the girl could be genuinely tired and don't want to do it again because they need to go back and serve other man and they don't want to be worn out. Usually, if you buy them for a full day, and willing to pay for multiple jacks, they are more incline to do you more than once (with compensation of course). But remember, full take out is 28K (with one jack) and 7-8K every subsequent jack. So think about your wallet too.







My burning Questions:

1. From the previous posts I gathered on this forum, it seems that you can get multiple shots from the girl if the chemistry is right? The local Taiwan sex forums do not explicitly mention this. A lot of coded language is used in their posts (non native speakers will have trouble deciphering).



I'm sure there will always be exceptions, but the norm is put up cash or shut up pants.




2. According the the local forums, the girl does not need to 'clock out' if you buy the rest of her time right? If so, she probably was just making an excuse, and if the chemistry is right, she could stay past 6.30am?



If you buy her for the full day or rest of time, she has an obligation to be with you until that time. Don't fall for the: "you're great but I'm tired, can I go home and rest" excuse. Remember, you're a monger, get your thick face on and reply: "no can't do, I paid you till 6:00 a.m. (or whatever shift), you need to be with me". Usually by then they will know you're not rook and an experience monger and they will submit like a puppy the way they should, however, if you have a girl that is insistent, pull out the "manager" card - "ok, go home, I'll just tell my manager what you said" and they'll submit. Of course you always have the option to be a gentleman and let her home and rest.




3. How to charm the girl when on a solo trip, and there's no group fun. I didn't have any ideas on how to keep the naughty/entertainment quotient high.

Apologies for the long ramble.

Complements, make small talks, ask and pretend to care about her life, and ask and pretend to care about her experiences as KTV girl and comfort her when she shares her tales with bad customers, and remember to always complement her from time to time, they dig that. Take her to nightclubs if she likes to drink and dance (but be careful of competition from other guys), or take her to more upscale pubs for more high class drinking. Sit by them and not across from them. Always hold her hands or around her waist or around her shoulders and pretend to like her as a boyfriend and not as a customer. If you are willing to spend take them out on those nightmarkets with cheap products and buy them cute little gifts.

Usually if you play your cards right they will do you like a girlfriend for the grand finale (which now always happen to me), and wish that you're a repeat customer because there truly are a ton of rich pigs that goes to those establishments.

Turtleh
05-28-10, 17:22
Saw this forum 2 years, back. Skimmed through the pages. I'm now currently back in Taipei for a month.

I've been mongering in HK *which is amazing by my standards good bang for your buck.

However I have absolutely no friends here this year in TW and I don't even know which clubs to go to.

I'm a CBC college student, can speak mandarin, can't read nor write, a little bit of canto.

Down for a mongering partner, also no lie I probably cannot do the 20k NT KTV scene, but can do 4000-8000 adventures.

PM me! I'll also contact some of you other guys who are looking for help

Abc_boy let me know!

Joe In A Shell
05-29-10, 12:44
Thanks Roni44 and ABC Boy for the advice, it has tremendously improved my understanding of the KTV scene.

Can I trouble the experienced pros with just another round of questions:

1. Apart from the HJ/BJ low-end joints. Is it possible to get HJ-ed / BJ-ed in the higher-end joints through playing goofy games?

2. The local sex forums are also not very clear on the boundaries in each category of KTV joints. How far can I go in each type of joint? I believe that ambiguity is deliberate, for the managers to profit from the learning curve of inexperienced mongers.

3. I have tried to explore an alternative avenue called 飯局 (meal-date), which is a higher class outcall, but when asked about FS, all those managers on the local sex forums always reply, depend on your 手腕 (player skill). So is FS a given? What's your take on this?

Abc Boy
05-30-10, 01:11
Can I trouble the experienced pros with just another round of questions:

1. Apart from the HJ/BJ low-end joints. Is it possible to get HJ-ed / BJ-ed in the higher-end joints through playing goofy games?



Typically no, those girls work in high-end are specifically not willing to do that, and the establishment won't allow that. However, I have heard some girls shared with me tales of forced customers that likes to feel their private spots and offer money for HJ and even BJ. Usually those people are gangster bosses or VIP customers that the establishment do not like to offend, and will just comfort the ladies who are forced into it.




2. The local sex forums are also not very clear on the boundaries in each category of KTV joints. How far can I go in each type of joint? I believe that ambiguity is deliberate, for the managers to profit from the learning curve of inexperienced mongers.



There are 3 major kinds of KTVs:

1 - Uniform shops KTV. These are the least in boundaries. HJ/BJ are regularly offered within the joint for nominal fee, and FS are available with take out charges, i.e. more expensive. Every hour there's a strip dance that the girls may or may not wear back their clothes. The drawback - girls here are lesser products (looks, etc.) Here you can buy "take outs" at minimum of 4 hours (one less hour with the girl) and more if you like. Note: even here not all girls offer FS.

2 - "Plain clothes" KTV (my own translation). These are higher end with girls carefully picked through standards (thought the standards do vary.) Typically way better in looks, shape, background (college grad, etc.). No strip dances. Girls come in by the 2s (typically) and will automatically leave 15 minutes later if you don't make it know to your manager that you want a girl (I always feel bad for the second girl that I didn't pick.) Drawback - if you want a girl you need to BUY HER FOR THE WHOLE DAY! Easily comes to close to 30K if you want to add the FS fee. Otherwise, keep sitting in there and enjoy 2 new girls every 15 minutes, but they will think you're some idiotic weirdo that has no idea what these establishments are: high-end pimp services for up-scale willing girls.

3 - "Dress shop" KTV (Emperor would fit here). These are places that tries to take the best of 1 and 2. All girls are picked according to pre-selection standards (again varies by management.) Their selling point is high-end girls. However, no strip-dances. All girls dress in seductive but not slutty dresses that you typically see at Uniform shops. They do NOTHING (supposively) in the establishment but talk, sing, play games. However, take-out is available but not all girls do FS and you have the option to buy minimum of 4 hours (again minus 1 hour actual time) or more.




3. I have tried to explore an alternative avenue called 飯局 (meal-date), which is a higher class outcall, but when asked about FS, all those managers on the local sex forums always reply, depend on your 手腕 (player skill). So is FS a given? What's your take on this?

Nope: "eat out" or "meal-date" means clean take out. You do need to have game if you want to have FS with the girl. By game I don't just mean personality as they didn't go out with you because they like you (not at first anyway), but they want to make money. Their willingness to sleep with you is only the start: you need to be willing to pay or buy them expensive gifts.

Abc Boy
05-30-10, 01:20
Down for a mongering partner, also no lie I probably cannot do the 20k NT KTV scene, but can do 4000-8000 adventures.

PM me! I'll also contact some of you other guys who are looking for help

Abc_boy let me know!

Sorry buddy, although I still go to Caesars from time to time, but it is such a hit and miss I don't really feel up to it. It is only 4300 so it's in your alley.

You don't really need a partner to go to Caesars. Go right up, pretend you know what you're doing. Look confident. They will greet you: sit down, take off your shoes and socks and hand it to the "shoe guy" - go in the lockers, get naked and put belongings in the locker. Go take a shower. If you want to go straight for the FS head directly into the places where you see a bunch of chairs and tables. Now, for newbie this is important, do not look nervous and DO NOT ASK AROUND FOR SPECIALS. Find a table, sit, a waiter may come, order a drink. Wait and WAIT. Usually in 2 minutes or less an older lady will come with a smart-greeting: "oh handsome boy, want a massage (or she may just say special)" and reply confidently, "yes." Follow her up the stairs and into "secret chamber". She will ask you "do you have girls you know", just say don't remember their numbers. A no answer makes them nervous a bit but will still serve you.

Have fun.

Member #4214
05-30-10, 04:35
Wondering if anyone has recent experience re: picking up students in or near Starbucks Ximending? Otherwise, what to make of this story? Thanks all ...

High heels and short skirts: a look at international prostitution
Mar 11, 2010 01:27 AM
Amy Matthewson

The first thing that struck me when I moved to Taiwan was how warm and friendly the people are ...

http://www.martlet.ca/article/21097-high-heels-and-short-skirts-

Abc Boy
05-30-10, 06:37
Wondering if anyone has recent experience re: picking up students in or near Starbucks Ximending? Otherwise, what to make of this story? Thanks all ...

High heels and short skirts: a look at international prostitution
Mar 11, 2010 01:27 AM
Amy Matthewson

The first thing that struck me when I moved to Taiwan was how warm and friendly the people are ...

http://www.martlet.ca/article/21097-high-heels-and-short-skirts-

Many years ago, I tried the infamous Ximending "student hunting." These kind of news have been reported forever, young girls have known to pimp themselves in Ximending area. However, I quickly stopped for 2 reasons:

1) There are many low-level gangster pimps there spotting single man and come up and ask "you need a girl?", which makes me feel very unsafe the only time that I've tried it because they first take you to a shabby hotel, ask you to wait in room, and then will knock on door and show you a girl, which I found to be no better than Caesars in age nor appearance (despite the promise of 'young' and 'beautiful'). And they will give you the look to kill if you dare to ask them to switch a girl.

2) The few young girls that actually came up to me that I quickly found to be younger than 18, I told them thanks but no thanks. I'm a monger, not a child molester. One person tried to say she's 18 so she can get some business, but gave it away when I asked her did she finish her HIGH SCHOOL homework and she quickly replied "I hate those classes that give homeworks", ooops, sorry, you're still in high school, go home and study.

But anyway, if extreme young girls are your thing, they are available mostly on Friday evenings and Saturday all day in Ximending. Be there ALONE (they avoid guys in groups of 2 or more), and sit on a bench and they will approach you. Do not hang out at the spot near the MRT exit, as more police and people are there. Instead, go to the "other end" of Ximending alleys and sit there, they will come.

Tobebogus
05-30-10, 08:20
First let me say I've rtff and could not find exactly what I'm looking for, so now I'm here.

About 5 years go I lived on the Mainland. Now, I'm coming to live in TW.

On the mainland, there are these MP's with green swirling (not pink, green) bbs poles out front. These places denote where u can go and get an "oil massage".
You would get an oil massage, and there were actually some places where the massage itself was great, but then you'd get HE (HJ only), its standard.

I'd like to know from any old tw hands, are there places like this in tw? If so, are they only in bigger cities? No FS, just standard HE after about 30 mins of a decent oil massage.

thx for ne info

-tobe

Exile
05-30-10, 10:45
Wondering if anyone has recent experience re: picking up students in or near Starbucks Ximending? Otherwise, what to make of this story? Thanks all ...

I went to Ximending to try for freebies several years ago. There are certainly some in the area, as you would expect, though I never saw as much prostitution as you would think. It feels like it is there but other than a few obvious girls walking the streets and a few pimps approaching you, much what ABC described, I never really saw that much.

However, I believe that the story is BS. What are the odds of a Taiwanese man in a business suit approaching a white woman in daylight in a public place and opening asking her what she charged? Talk to any foreign woman here and they sometimes have a hard time getting approached in clubs.


“Haven’t you seen all the hotels that rent rooms by the hour?” she asked me. “They’re all over Ximending.

Yeah. They are all over Taiwan, not just in Ximending.


Many of the Chinese teachers’ assistants wear eyebrow-raising short skirts to work and it’s considered perfectly appropriate. How was I to know that they were prostitutes?

What?

I would say that she made the story up.

Exile
05-30-10, 10:53
Of course, she doesn't think that all Taiwanese girls are hookers. Many are simply "pouting, foot-stomping, tantrum-throwing femme fatales who throw tantrums on trains and squeal their requests like spoiled brats in a voice that sounds like a baby on helium and are so loud that stray dogs run for the hills."

http://www.martlet.ca/article/19874

Joe In A Shell
05-30-10, 17:33
Thanks again ABC Boy! I think am leaning towards the quality route for the upcoming trip. Should I just tell my manager straight up to take me to Emperor? Or is it better to let him know my requirements and let him decide on the joint like the first time I went?

Member #4214
05-31-10, 01:21
However, I believe that the story is BS. What are the odds of a Taiwanese man in a business suit approaching a white woman in daylight in a public place and opening asking her what she charged? Talk to any foreign woman here and they sometimes have a hard time getting approached in clubs ...

Yeah, you convinced me. Just a newly arrived and somewhat frustrated teacher still coming to terms with the fact she is 'not in Kansas' anymore ...

Ragnarok42
05-31-10, 01:47
After reading many posts about Kanding/Guiling area I decided to take a stroll there myself. Went yesterday on a rainy, miserable day and found the area filled with 50 YO ladies sitting on mopeds eyeing you as soon as you walk close. There were also some standing on the street, but in the bright daylight these women could not entice anyone to go with them. After walking around I finally decided to try one of the places that advertised "massage" on the 2nd floor and walked up.

Place was really dimly lit with beds and small red lamps, think Sanchong shacks on a power shortage. The lady said there was only 2 girls available and that "full service" was 2K and "part service" was 1K. But the "girl" that showed up was unfuckable and I said no thanks but I would come back later. So so far I have an idea that FS is available but nothing interests me.

I remembering seeing a barber shop near the entrance to Kanding Rd and decide to try that. Typical setup , guy at the door walks me upstairs to a room that has NO DOOR. So right away I am thinking no fun to be had, but then again many places have rooms upstairs so I think why not. The woman they give me is not too bad (all relative to what I have seen so far mind you) so I agree to a 2-hour massage for 1800 and the girl gets her towels and stuff. Been a while since I have sat in a barbershop chair and gotten a massage. So about 20 min into it I ask if there are any "special services", the girl gets real close and whispers that they dont allow it but she will let me do it for 1000 extra. I agree and she go gets her stuff.

I was assuming she would take me uptairs but no she come back into the room and takes off my pants. Now the lack of a door is a little strange and I was expecting some guy to jump in and bust me. But the girl started to give me a BBBJ while taking off her panties and stripping down her bra. I was suprised by her firm, tight breasts and little nipples. She soon got on top and boy she was tight. I decided to let her do all the work and let her ride me until I finished and I could tell she enjoyed it too. She cleaned me up and put on her panties and I thought there something very hot about this kind of dirty, backroom sex. She continued to massage me for another 10 min before I left and got her number. So in the end damages were 2800, you can probably find FS for 2000 or less but be prepared to say no a few times or lower your standards. Have no idea if nighttime is any better, but I am sure the LE will be out in patrolling at the time (there are about 3 police station within 3 blocks of that area).

So happy hunting, and if anyone has better luck please post.

Hollow Man Abc
05-31-10, 16:56
Dear Senior Members:

Just wonder, when you take these high-end girls outside the KTV for FS, do these girls offer BBBJ and GFE experiences ? Can we find any Russian/ Eastern European girls for FS in Taipei ??

Smuttynose
05-31-10, 17:08
After reading many posts about Kanding/Guiling area I decided to take a stroll there myself. Went yesterday on a rainy, miserable day and found the area filled with 50 YO ladies sitting on mopeds eyeing you as soon as you walk close. There were also some standing on the street, but in the bright daylight these women could not entice anyone to go with them.Daytime isn't the best time to visit that area, so this sounds about right. Nighttime has a much better selection, though it is still a bit limited. However, so far I've enjoyed a couple rides around the area during the day when I had the time, just because the area has that raunchy feeling, and the hunt can be fun.


I remembering seeing a barber shop near the entrance to Kanding Road and decide to try that.Can you be more specific? What entrance? Where it meets Heping, or does it start north of there in the Ximen area?


She cleaned me up and put on her panties and I thought there something very hot about this kind of dirty, backroom sex.Sounds fun. Was there any time limit? I hate being rushed, but I hear that everything in this area around that price has 15 min. Time limit. Thanks for the report!

Abc Boy
05-31-10, 20:55
Thanks again ABC Boy! I think am leaning towards the quality route for the upcoming trip. Should I just tell my manager straight up to take me to Emperor? Or is it better to let him know my requirements and let him decide on the joint like the first time I went?

Not all managers have pull at Emperor, you really need to rely on him to take you around to the places he does have the pull. However, if you want quality route, there are really two places that is known to have the best quality of girls: Emperor and Taipei97.

Also, if he can only deliver uniform shops, that means he's a low-end manager. Ask to go to non-uniform shops and go to "plain clothes shops" or "dress clothes shops" and see what he says. If he makes excuses, it's time for a new manager as you'll never get high quality girls with him.

Ragnarok42
06-01-10, 01:13
Daytime isn't the best time to visit that area, so this sounds about right. Nighttime has a much better selection, though it is still a bit limited. However, so far I've enjoyed a couple rides around the area during the day when I had the time, just because the area has that raunchy feeling, and the hunt can be fun.

Can you be more specific? What entrance? Where it meets Heping, or does it start north of there in the Ximen area?

Sounds fun. Was there any time limit? I hate being rushed, but I hear that everything in this area around that price has 15 min. Time limit. Thanks for the report!

Just seeing if you guys were paying attention. Kangdin near the entrance from Huan He South RD. If you are taking Huan He and turn at Kangdin it will be on you right hand side.

In theory there is no time limit because FS is not offered...but I paid for a 2 our massage and I imagine she would rush me because there is NO DOOR to the room. But like I said it just makes it more kinky, forbidden fruit and all that garbage I guess.

Ragnarok42
06-01-10, 01:25
All this running around Kangdin made me nostalgic for the good old days so I slipped out of work and went to Sanchong at around 4pm. Right away I spotted a moped LE near the park watching out for guys coming on scooters (good thing I got there in a cab). Seeing there was no joy I started to walk towards the bridge.

Getting there I see another LE near the on ramp. WTFF?? But then I see this lady riding on a moped with a phone on her ear. We exchange looks and she tells me to go to this door and I enter. Inside another door opens and this tall, thin girl calls me in. About 6 girls, 1300 to 1500 and all of them thin and young, 3 are really cute. So I choose the one who opens the door and we have the standard 15 min. Not a bad time and I like the familiarity of the whole thing.

We chat quite a bit and she tells me that LE patrol mostly at night and infrequently. She even gives me a number to call if the lady outside is not around to call to let me in. If she and the other cuties are any indication of what is available I am sure to go there a lot to see what other talent is available.

Exile
06-03-10, 02:14
Daytime isn't the best time to visit that area, so this sounds about right.

Longshan is like a box of chocolates. That probably is what keeps me returning but sometimes you can go there two or three times in a row and not find anything. I was there a few days ago and nobody was out, other than three or four patrol units. After having a bite to eat, I saw a ton of girls.

Smutty, I tried to send you a PM but it said that you didn't have it turned on.

Ragnarok42
06-04-10, 01:02
had a little morning fun with one of my regulars this morning before we both went to work and decided to get some breakfast at the mcds at the corner of linsen. funny seeing lots of girls getting off work, many still dressed in high heels and thick makeup.

police car had stopped this pimped out car and was checking the bags and id of these two rather trashy young couples. saw signs of police all over the area trying to nab **** girls or other sw.

scary seeing many of these ladies in the bright, harsh daylight. many looked much older and worn out than they might in the dim light of a ktv or nighttime. many had wrinkles, flabby skin and some had really nasty teeth. though there were quite a few cute and sexy ones too, may try my luck sometime seeing if i can bag a girl right after she gets off work before she heads home. see if they want to make a quick few bucks on the side.

Exile
06-04-10, 03:53
Just seeing if you guys were paying attention. Kangdin near the entrance from Huan He South RD. If you are taking Huan He and turn at Kangdin it will be on you right hand side.

Is this the place?

Ragnarok42
06-04-10, 06:06
Is this the place?

nope.

Its a barbershop, revolving pole and everything.
Just like the good old days..... ;-)

Keep looking

Abc Boy
06-04-10, 17:31
had a little morning fun with one of my regulars this morning before we both went to work and decided to get some breakfast at the mcds at the corner of linsen. funny seeing lots of girls getting off work, many still dressed in high heels and thick makeup.

police car had stopped this pimped out car and was checking the bags and id of these two rather trashy young couples. saw signs of police all over the area trying to nab **** girls or other sw.

scary seeing many of these ladies in the bright, harsh daylight. many looked much older and worn out than they might in the dim light of a ktv or nighttime. many had wrinkles, flabby skin and some had really nasty teeth. though there were quite a few cute and sexy ones too, may try my luck sometime seeing if i can bag a girl right after she gets off work before she heads home. see if they want to make a quick few bucks on the side.

good idea and good luck. but remember they are usually worn out drinking all night and playing sick games, and not to mention possible multiple hj/bj/fs done. do you really want to have last minute fun with girls like that?

this is why i like to take girls right when they start a shift, when i know they are at least "clean" for the day and i'm the first.

Smuttynose
06-04-10, 17:59
nope.

Its a barbershop, revolving pole and everything.
Just like the good old days..... ;-)

Keep lookingI took a look the other day when I was in the area and found it. Looked pretty obvious with the barber pole, guy out front, and damn hotel desk inside. The setup in this country is pretty funny..

Taiwan Expat
06-05-10, 06:18
I remembering seeing a barber shop near the entrance to Kanding Rd and decide to try that. Typical setup , guy at the door walks me upstairs to a room that has NO DOOR. ...So happy hunting, and if anyone has better luck please post.I have done the same NT$1800+1000 a few times over the past three years. You are right that it is a little strange to have a lady riding you on a chair with no door to the room. Of course I always had the room at the end of the hallway so no one would ever walk past.

There is another place right at the S.E. entrance to the HuaZhong bridge (the ZhongHe side leading to Taipei) that is NT$1500 + 1000 for a 45 minute massage followed by a shower and F.S. in a room upstairs.

Indianmale
06-05-10, 21:30
Hi all,

I am visiting Taipei for a few days for office work and wanted to understand very clearly if all things related to sex are NOT legit there. I have been reading a few posts which suggest that this is the case. This makes me worried. Can anyone help??

I intend to stay in the Lin Sen area in a reasonable budget hotel.

Thanks!

Ragnarok42
06-07-10, 01:23
I have done the same NT$1800+1000 a few times over the past three years. You are right that it is a little strange to have a lady riding you on a chair with no door to the room. Of course I always had the room at the end of the hallway so no one would ever walk past.


I had the same room but you never know if they are setting you up. Right after you finish the manager just "happens" to walk over and discover you, then they shake you down for money. This kind of baiting and catch happened to me once in Shanghai but luckily I just paid them some money. Now technically you cannot be charged in Taiwan but these situations always are awkward at best and dangerous if they have home field advantage.

Think I will stick with SC where I get to choose my girls and it "safe".

Ragnarok42
06-07-10, 01:31
Good idea and good luck. But remember they are usually worn out drinking all night and playing sick games, and not to mention possible multiple HJ/BJ/FS done. Do you really want to have last minute fun with girls like that?


I don't know ABC, but when I was walking along one or two girls gave me a look that seemed like they wanted to have fun with you and not just like a regular customer kind of pay and leave. I guess if you do meet one it will be a more fun just because she initiated it (maybe she got no business or the guy sucked) and she needs to have her needs met. Also, seems like you can get it for a good deal less than you would pay in a high end KTV.

Abc Boy
06-07-10, 02:34
Hi all,

I am visiting Taipei for a few days for office work and wanted to understand very clearly if all things related to sex are NOT legit there. I have been reading a few posts which suggest that this is the case. This makes me worried. Can anyone help??

I intend to stay in the Lin Sen area in a reasonable budget hotel.

Thanks!


Heh heh.... pay for sex is not legit in Taiwan, but like every other major city it's available and safe. Just browse through this site. Have fun.

Exile
06-07-10, 07:56
I am visiting Taipei for a few days for office work and wanted to understand very clearly if all things related to sex are NOT legit there.

Legit? Same as every other country in Asia - illegal and very common. If you do things the right way, it's safe here though there would be more room for trouble than in many places.

Ragnarok42
06-07-10, 12:39
Legit? Same as every other country in Asia - illegal and very common. If you do things the right way, it's safe here though there would be more room for trouble than in many places.

Read the forum and you will get an idea. If you have little or no Chinese ability (and I am assuming you are not Chinese) stick with places that deal with foreigners - Ceasars, Yuki, etc.

Do not go to SC or Long shang unless you have either a guide, speak fluent Chinese and do not stand out in a crowd, or have a death wish. At best they will rip you off, at worst you will be dragged into some room and asked for a shit load of money.

Exile
06-07-10, 19:41
Read the forum and you will get an idea. If you have little or no Chinese ability (and I am assuming you are not Chinese) stick with places that deal with foreigners - Ceasars, Yuki, etc.

Do not go to SC or Long shang unless you have either a guide, speak fluent Chinese and do not stand out in a crowd, or have a death wish. At best they will rip you off, at worst you will be dragged into some room and asked for a shit load of money.

Thanks for your advice. It's a wonder I have survived all these years - need to go back and read my own reports I suppose.

Ragnarok42
06-08-10, 00:45
Thanks for your advice. It's a wonder I have survived all these years - need to go back and read my own reports I suppose.

Sorry my friend, that bit of folk wisdom was meant for our new brother Indianmale. I have NO doubt of your abilities.

Abc Boy
06-09-10, 01:46
It's a legit website but some interest people are advertising massages. Just browse to the place with massages, and I'm already assured by an expert monger in Taipei that it has massages that we would love to get involve in.

The person he tried was "Bao Er" and he says it was the real deal.

www.kijiji.com.tw

Have fun

Exile
06-09-10, 03:45
Sorry my friend, that bit of folk wisdom was meant for our new brother Indianmale. I have NO doubt of your abilities.

Ha! I reread your advice and tend to agree though I don't think that he would get killed - robbed perhaps but probably not killed.

No Chinese and new to the area, Longshan and Linsen and San Chong are not good ideas.

Wildandintimate
06-09-10, 11:36
Hey my friends. I love this forum and the information in it. Honestly I don't know what would I have done without this valuable information in every single one of my trips in Asia.

I am in Taipei for a week and since I am lonely and wanted to go out to check my luck with pretty chicks from Taipei, I was wondering if you can tell me which place is better for a Wednesday night? Room18 or Carnegies?

It sucks to be alone doesn't it? Anyone interested in hunting together?

Cky733
06-09-10, 13:35
Hey all,

Long time lurker first time poster. Used these forums to monger in Tokyo a couple times but I'm pretty new in general, had a few questions if anyone would be kind enough to help.

After reading through the first couple pages it seems like I'd be interested in outcalls and maybe a trip or two to a higher end KTV. About outcalls, and it seems its also the case for high end KTV like emperors, do you have to find a manager? Does that entail searching the internet for 'eating fish' and 'drinking tea'? Or is there a more specific keyword and/or website/forum to browse? I had searched emperors on the forums but I didn't catch any addresses and I was already looking at posts from 2007.

Also, I just looked through that kijiji link you posted ABC. I've taken Chinese for 3 years so talking isn't a problem, but wading through walls of chinese text is a bit slow. Found a number of 24 out outcall massage but wasn't sure if there was a certain lingo or anything to look for.

Either way I'm gonna keep reading through past reports but some nudges in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.

Wowbaby
06-09-10, 13:36
It's a legit website but some interest people are advertising massages. Just browse to the place with massages, and I'm already assured by an expert monger in Taipei that it has massages that we would love to get involve in.

The person he tried was "Bao Er" and he says it was the real deal.

www.kijiji.com.tw

Have funAny tips on how to avoid a scam?

Indianmale
06-10-10, 06:09
ABC Boy, Exile and others - Thanks for the initial advice!

Now since you guys are seniors and I would be visiting this city for the first time, do not know any Chinese at all, I was wondering if you would be willing to help!

I understand FS would cost somewhere close to NT3000-3500, is this right?

How much do typical massages (1 hour etc),HJ,BJ cost? Sorry for the ignorance.

Any contacts you can pass over (people or places (safe, no LE) I could call and get things arranged)?

Are hotel services available (girl coming over to your room and providing all the services)?

I know these questions might have already been answered somewhere in this long thread, but I am new!! So sorry once again!

Help truly appreciated!

Thanks!!

Abc Boy
06-10-10, 15:23
ABC Boy, Exile and others - Thanks for the initial advice!

Now since you guys are seniors and I would be visiting this city for the first time, do not know any Chinese at all, I was wondering if you would be willing to help!

I understand FS would cost somewhere close to NT3000-3500, is this right?

How much do typical massages (1 hour etc),HJ,BJ cost? Sorry for the ignorance.

Any contacts you can pass over (people or places (safe, no LE) I could call and get things arranged)?

Are hotel services available (girl coming over to your room and providing all the services)?

I know these questions might have already been answered somewhere in this long thread, but I am new!! So sorry once again!

Help truly appreciated!

Thanks!!

Simply put, your options are limited for non-Chinese first time monger in Taipei.

1) Caesars - search for that in this forum. $4300 total, get a shower, get a girl, get a pop, leave.

2) Buy any English newspaper (Taipei Times, etc.), flip to the back pages. Look under "Services" and see plenty of "businessman massage" ads, oh by the way, those are all one owner so don't bother trying to play one against the other. Call them, ask for massage, they will quote you $5-6K, laugh and say "my friend said 3K" and they will say "ok ok, 3K", give them your hotel name, room, and real last name. They will call back to confirm you're real and no cop.

I really think as a beginner with no veteran to lead you personally these are safe bets for you. Don't go crazy and then get rob. KTVs are notorious for robbing ignorant mongers. I have known foreigners that paid 70K NTW and got nothing but a bunch of beers.

Abc Boy
06-10-10, 15:25
Any tips on how to avoid a scam?

If they want you to deposit money in a bank first without the service it's a scam.

If you are answering an ad about a young pretty girl doing the massage but the phone voice on the other side sounds like a fat guy drinking beer, it's a scam.

If you want to play it extremely safe, look for ads by "Bao er" (the big wide eye girl), she's tested by my friend and proven legit.

Abc Boy
06-10-10, 15:29
Hey all,

After reading through the first couple pages it seems like I'd be interested in outcalls and maybe a trip or two to a higher end KTV. About outcalls, and it seems its also the case for high end KTV like emperors, do you have to find a manager?
.

If you don't have a manager, you need to get one to trust you first. Google search "Uniform Shop" (translate into Chinese, I can't type Chinese) on Taiwan search engines and you'll get a bunch of private webpages made by "managers" that all claimed to be able to deliver. Most are fine. Call or email them, and if they trust you enough they will send you a time and place to meet; if they don't trust you, they will ignore you.

Note that different manager have different pull at different places. Not all managers can take you to Emperor and since Emperor is the cream of the crop in KTVs I really doubt not many managers can. If you want to have fun at Emperor let me know by early July if you're still in Taipei, I'll be heading into Taipei then to do business for a week and maybe I can introduce you. But be prepare to spend around 20K (minimum) for fun and happy ending.

Abc Boy
06-10-10, 15:31
Hey my friends. I love this forum and the information in it. Honestly I don't know what would I have done without this valuable information in every single one of my trips in Asia.

I am in Taipei for a week and since I am lonely and wanted to go out to check my luck with pretty chicks from Taipei, I was wondering if you can tell me which place is better for a Wednesday night? Room18 or Carnegies?

It sucks to be alone doesn't it? Anyone interested in hunting together?

Room18 has more girls, but also more competition. Carnegies are less attractive since it seems dated compared to others, but still have good selection of girls, but you need to bring your A game.

Hch207
06-10-10, 15:54
[QUOTE=Note that different manager have different pull at different places. Not all managers can take you to Emperor and since Emperor is the cream of the crop in KTVs I really doubt not many managers can.[/QUOTE]ABC Boy:

I have two managers that I like to use:

The first operates in a unifiorm shop on Chung Hsiao across from Sogo Hsin Guan. The girls are what you would normally expect from an uniform shop in that they are mid to high end in terms of looks but still somewhat trashy. The thing I like most about this manager is that is is great at picking the right girls for a 3P. Price is around 20K for 1 girl and 40K for two 2 girls.

The second manager operates in a number of casual dress shops including one on Fuxing between Ren Ai and Xin Yi (is this Emperor's? I've always called it something else but know they have more than one name), Tong Ling department store - 8th floor and Long Heng at Asia World. Quality from this manager is top notch, at least in my mind. Not all of the girls are for take out, especially the super hot ones, but if you click then they can be taked in it. With the girls that are not initially willing, I've often been told by my manager that the girl will ride with me back to the hotel and it is up to me to close the deal from there.

I see at lot of your posts regarding the high end night clubs in Taipei and am curious on which ones you think are the best.

Abc Boy
06-11-10, 03:27
ABC Boy:

I have two managers that I like to use:


The second manager operates in a number of casual dress shops including one on Fuxing between Ren Ai and Xin Yi (is this Emperor's? I've always called it something else but know they have more than one name), Tong Ling department store - 8th floor and Long Heng at Asia World. Quality from this manager is top notch, at least in my mind. Not all of the girls are for take out, especially the super hot ones, but if you click then they can be taked in it. With the girls that are not initially willing, I've often been told by my manager that the girl will ride with me back to the hotel and it is up to me to close the deal from there.

I see at lot of your posts regarding the high end night clubs in Taipei and am curious on which ones you think are the best.

Uniform shops forget it. There are top notch girls there but like you say they are usually trashy. I stop playing there nowadays.

Casual shop girls are the maxims (though there are substandard girls there, but usually the girls are top notch.) The ones you mentioned are good, especially Long Heng. Emperor is at the intersection of Duan-Hua and Ba-De. Now, with Long Heng they will never admit the girls do take out, but for those prices the girls will usually do it with you if you are not a pig or a slob, but be a gentleman and they usually do it if you promise return business. HOWEVER, they are free to say no. I use to go there but I got a girl to say no to me once, and my manager say she can't do anything about it (my Long Heng manager is a female), and I was like, crap, I paid 30K + dinner + drinks + movie for nothing, never again, see ya Long Heng!

Emperor is a "dress shop" - i.e. they mix the best of uniform shops and casual dress shops. The girls are handpicked by quality like casual clothes shops, they wear dresses as uniforms like uniform shops, but you don't have to click a girl for the whole day like casual dress shop, but rather you have the option to buy them for minimum 4 hours (3 actual) like uniform shops, and FS can be pre-negotiated, pay for, and guaranteed (my favor part.) But they don't do hourly dances and they don't do anything special (HJ/BJ/FS) in the rooms, have to buy them out and do it outside.

After surveying the field I think Emperor has the best girls and the best deals (buy them for 4 hours, pop them, say good night.) Saves you the 10K extra you would of spend at Long Heng and you don't have to worry about the girl saying no. Also girl vs. girl Emperor have top notch girls that rivals Long Heng, although you do have to ask your manager to serve them early for you, in terms of quantity Long Heng has more top notch girls.

Hope this helps.

Hch207
06-11-10, 04:00
Emperor is a "dress shop" - i.e. they mix the best of uniform shops and casual dress shops. The girls are handpicked by quality like casual clothes shops, they wear dresses as uniforms like uniform shops, but you don't have to click a girl for the whole day like casual dress shop, but rather you have the option to buy them for minimum 4 hours (3 actual) like uniform shops, and FS can be pre-negotiated, pay for, and guaranteed (my favor part.) But they don't do hourly dances and they don't do anything special (HJ/BJ/FS) in the rooms, have to buy them out and do it outside.

After surveying the field I think Emperor has the best girls and the best deals (buy them for 4 hours, pop them, say good night.) Saves you the 10K extra you would of spend at Long Heng and you don't have to worry about the girl saying no. Also girl vs. girl Emperor have top notch girls that rivals Long Heng, although you do have to ask your manager to serve them early for you, in terms of quantity Long Heng has more top notch girls.

Hope this helps.Very helpful indeed. I will have to try Emperor's some time. Actually now realized that I have walked passed it many times but just did not know it was Emperor's.

I always thought casual stores had the best quality but felt that the effort to bed the top notch girls really took a disproportionate amount of effort vs other places. Think about it this way: if you buy them out for the entire night then they get around 8-10K into their pockets. If they go to bed with you then maybe it's another 8-10K. If you are a hot chick with some standards, and usually the top girls at the top places will be like that, you won't be jumping at every opportunity to go home with a guy, especially if he is some old and fat douche. For the girl's perspective, if you don't like the guy you can just work an additional night for the same money. Whereas compared to a KTV in Beijing or Shanghai where the sitting fee is RMB 600 and the take out fee is RMB 3000, it really is worth it from a returns perpspective for the girl to go the extra mile.

Don't get me wrong, I have managed to bed a high percentage of the really hot girls who say they are not for take out. That being said it only happened about 75% of the time on the first night with some taking a lot more work. With those odds it almost seems better to hit Primo or 18 to try your luck, which as you know in TW can be pretty good if you are relatively young, not ugly and a nice guy.

Indianmale
06-11-10, 07:17
Simply put, your options are limited for non-Chinese first time monger in Taipei.

1) Caesars - search for that in this forum. $4300 total, get a shower, get a girl, get a pop, leave.

2) Buy any English newspaper (Taipei Times, etc.), flip to the back pages. Look under "Services" and see plenty of "businessman massage" ads, oh by the way, those are all one owner so don't bother trying to play one against the other. Call them, ask for massage, they will quote you $5-6K, laugh and say "my friend said 3K" and they will say "ok ok, 3K", give them your hotel name, room, and real last name. They will call back to confirm you're real and no cop.

I really think as a beginner with no veteran to lead you personally these are safe bets for you. Don't go crazy and then get rob. KTVs are notorious for robbing ignorant mongers. I have known foreigners that paid 70K NTW and got nothing but a bunch of beers.Thanks ABC Boy. Appreciate the help!

Read about this place called "One World One Pheonix" at a few places on this forum. Specially the posts by another senior "Roni44". Looked quite interesting and exciting.

Questions are:

Don't know where it is?

Is it accessible to first time visitors in Taipei?

Should one be worried about LE?

Any pitfalls one should be aware of?

Would appreciate any help from the seniors. ABC Boy, Roni44. Looking forward to your guidance.

Thanks!

Wildandintimate
06-11-10, 08:52
Thanks a lot ABC boy. I really appreciate your help. I ended up going to Carnegies and although there were plenty of girls, lot of them seemed to belong to some sort of a gang.

Like it seemed there were a few older ladies that had a bunch of younger girls attached to them or maybe operate for them. I don't know. I ended up dancing with many of the girls and spoke to a few and got their phone number but none of them seemed to be eager to continue the night somewhere else. Maybe I have to give them a call and sass them out.

I will try Room18 this time if I could and let you all know how I go there.

Cky733
06-14-10, 14:06
Wow ABC Boy, you are the man haha.

I'm not too long out of university, so I have been going to places like Luxy and Room 18 with some decent luck, so seems like the thing to do is save up for some trips to emperor's. And while hittings the clubs is fun, it's definitely not the 'full experience' that these dress shops seem to provide.

It seems like LE is a just common enough problem to not want to make a bunch of phone calls to massage or ask all over the place? Or is it relatively safe if you are cautious about it?

Either way, I will write up any updates of my adventures to help everyone out, as it seems like there are quite a few of us here that have just gotten to Taiwan for the summer.

Happy hunting everyone.

Kc3453
06-15-10, 07:03
Much of this thread discusses FS, BJ, etc.

Are there any well-known spots you have been to for those only looking for massage HJs?

Paradise Bay
06-16-10, 10:43
However, if you got enough game to make them like you, they will keep hinting you that it's ok, like massage real close to your cock for one, talk as if it's ok to "take them out" for "more", etc. Listen carefully.That's a good point. This one time the masseuse was bitching about how she wanted to quit because of high turnover rate at the place, then the next minute she was massaging really close to the family jewels, brushing it "accidentally" from time to time. But I was so turned off by her earlier bitching that I completely ignored her.

Wowbaby
06-20-10, 17:08
I've been trying out a live video chat room site based in Taiwan. It's sort of like Live Jasmine but in Chinese. I think most of the girls don't speak any English.

Anyway, I checked out some of the girls this weekend. Many have profiles that say they are in Taipei city or Taipei county. Of the 5 girls I talked, all of them said they are in China. It was a little disappointing, as I thought I would be able to chat some girls up and meet them somewhere in Taipei. Some of the girls even asked for gifts but I never gave any.

No luck so far but I think I will keep investigating.

The website is called ioshow.com for those interested.

Turtleh
06-21-10, 20:13
Wild and sky and whoever else

I'm really bored and I'm looking for a partner to go with too, but we can't pm unless we pay for the feature, and for 19. 95 I'm willing to, but will you guys be able to reply and send me pm's?

Abc can you help me out a little bit more? I'm still a bit scared to go to caesars alone, and I don't want to get stabbed in longshan. Although the ximending sounds okay, I've been there at night and theres so many people! I don't know which "alleys" to wait in?!

Turtleh
06-21-10, 21:26
Oh and one more thing before I knock out for the night.

Boy I wish you would come back in early July abcboy, I'm leaving in mid July. My question is if the KTV's take credit card? I have a pretty reasonable credit limit, but not abundant cash.

I think I'll subscribe to another forum when I wake up, just 20 bucks.

Abc Boy
06-22-10, 02:09
Oh and one more thing before I knock out for the night.

Boy I wish you would come back in early July abcboy, I'm leaving in mid July. My question is if the KTV's take credit card? I have a pretty reasonable credit limit, but not abundant cash.

I think I'll subscribe to another forum when I wake up, just 20 bucks.

Upgrade and then PM me, let's setup something. I'll be in Taipei again in early July.

Yes they take credit cards.

BruceTea
06-22-10, 07:18
I'm still a bit scared to go to caesars alone, and I don't want to get stabbed in longshan.

The PM function is a good way to get in touch with others. You can't post tel #s, contact methods, etc. on the forum, but why would you? It's better done discreetly.

Caesars isn't too bad. Go the building, ride the elevator, give shoes to the shoe attendant, get naked in the locker room, lock your stuff up, shower and then go to the dining area where the mommies will solicit special massage by a girl upstairs. It's very harmless and quite safe. Only setback IMHO is it is overpriced and the girls are subpar in looks.

KTVs are fun, but if you're looking for full sex, it can be challenging. HJs are a given.

For some reason, it seems that scams are not that big a problem in the past, but recently, I've been getting one or two quotes for the same item. Seems if retailers are able to get away with something, they'll try to.

As for safety, Taipei is as safe or as dangerous as any other major city in the world. ie, watch your back, but overall, it shouldn't be a worry.

Turtleh
06-22-10, 12:47
Ok I just subscribed! Hopefully it activates soon

Just finished working out I believe I'm going to venture out to caesars or perhaps get a restroom and order yukis

Last stupid question, how naked am I when I undress in locker room. Is there bathrobe or something? Or am I fully naked in a dining room possibly with other dudes?

Abc Boy
06-23-10, 05:12
Ok I just subscribed! Hopefully it activates soon

Just finished working out I believe I'm going to venture out to caesars or perhaps get a restroom and order yukis

Last stupid question, how naked am I when I undress in locker room. Is there bathrobe or something? Or am I fully naked in a dining room possibly with other dudes?

Fully naked, there are little towels around but since nobody covers up there if you do they will think you're green or weird or one of those newbies, i.e., you draw LESS attention on you when you're butt naked.

Take a shower first, especially in Taiwan summer. No girl likes to do a guy who smells sweaty.

Don't forget, Caesars you can "knock off" girls too, if the mama tries to insult you with an ugly girl, just say NO and she'll leave and the mama will give you a better looking one. But keep in mind at the place like Caesars you're probably not going to get any golden eggs there.

Ragnarok42
06-24-10, 01:10
Fully naked, there are little towels around but since nobody covers up there if you do they will think you're green or weird or one of those newbies, i.e., you draw LESS attention on you when you're butt naked.

Take a shower first, especially in Taiwan summer. No girl likes to do a guy who smells sweaty.

Don't forget, Caesars you can "knock off" girls too, if the mama tries to insult you with an ugly girl, just say NO and she'll leave and the mama will give you a better looking one. But keep in mind at the place like Caesars you're probably not going to get any golden eggs there.

Why do you think they keep the rooms so dark? I prefer going to SC, at least you get to choose what you bring into those dark room.

You are fully naked after you take your shower but dont forget to mention that after you towel yourself off they have little Japanese style bathrobes and shorts to wear. So dont try walking into the bar area totally naked, would be very embarrasing.

Abc Boy
06-24-10, 03:38
Why do you think they keep the rooms so dark? I prefer going to SC, at least you get to choose what you bring into those dark room.

You are fully naked after you take your shower but dont forget to mention that after you towel yourself off they have little Japanese style bathrobes and shorts to wear. So dont try walking into the bar area totally naked, would be very embarrasing.

HAHAHAHAHA

BruceTea
06-29-10, 01:37
With those odds it almost seems better to hit Primo or 18 to try your luck, which as you know in TW can be pretty good if you are relatively young, not ugly and a nice guy.


Also remember that girls that go to clubs/pubs go in packs (3 or more people). Getting their telephone number is easy, but getting one to break away is difficult. Having money and a sense of humor works better than being young, good looking, and being nice. In my experience, being a dick kinda helps as since they're being bitches in front of her friends, it's a form of social interaction, just don't go too far.

Abc Boy
06-29-10, 05:49
Also remember that girls that go to clubs/pubs go in packs (3 or more people). Getting their telephone number is easy, but getting one to break away is difficult. Having money and a sense of humor works better than being young, good looking, and being nice. In my experience, being a dick kinda helps as since they're being bitches in front of her friends, it's a form of social interaction, just don't go too far.

Definitely a sense of humor and act cool (I think this is what you mean by being a dick?) Act like a nice guy and you'll be label a geek and dork. Get your A-game on, be funny, act (or pretend) to be cool, and whip out a wallet of cash and buy them some drinks. They do come in packs, but offer to drive (or taxi) them home.... only home may mean WeGo.... LOL

Turtleh
06-30-10, 18:55
I am too timid.

It's too hot for me to go out during the day, I sweat balls here in this country. So I only go out at night.

I went to IKEA today to actually look at things to buy, and then I saw a huge sign that said sauna 15F I had no clue that Caesars was here I thought it was at another mall south on the muzha line. Anyways I went to the elevator area, as the mall just closed and I saw the types of customers that place caters to (businessmen) and I got timid LOL, I look really young! And I had a backpack on with runners and tshirt. Anyways I didn't go there for that reason anyways so I just told myself Ok at least you know where it is now.

Afterwards still feeling antsy and wanting to explore the places you guys talk about I went to Longshan. I walked up kangdin Road, and passed by about 4 or 5 old women (40s-50+ dressed in local type dress/miniskirts) interesting some had a pink slip of paper in their hand, with only one that looked Okay and she was smiling I just smiled back and she gave me a little pssst in my ear, but I just kept walking =\ All in the meanwhile I'm really nervous as I don't look like I fit in the area OR its cause I look like a middle school student =(Anyways I went too far north, so I hung a left and walked back south on XIchang Road I believe, did not see anything.

I then reached back to the night market area, Huashi snake Road, and there was a team of SWAT patrolling, then walking back through the nightmarket street to the MRT station, I turned right, and headed down a alley with small KTVs? Boy was I scared here too, I saw more nasty looking old women, SUDDENLY I saw a YOUNG ONE walking hand in hand briskly with a slightly older girl, and I turned to follow as there was 2 LE at the end of the alley I was on. They then went to the alley (262) and the older one directed the young one to go into one of the places and said something like yea go to table number one or something. I hung around across the street just smoking and observing, while another younger possibly not taiwanese girl on cellphone was circled by a guy on scooter, but she just waved him off.

Last train was coming so I just pussied out and went home =(

Shittiest "report" ever.

Ragnarok42
07-01-10, 01:46
Last train was coming so I just pussied out and went home =(

Shittiest "report" ever.

Dude, unlucky string of events. But if were in Ceasars don't be timid, they have all types come in and they dont give a shit what you look like, as long as you can pay they will serve you.

But if you want more discreet action then head up to Nanjing Sec.2 next to the China airlines building, there is an old fashion style "barber shop" that will give you FS in one of those reclining barberchairs (for those old enough to remember those days) and you get to choose the girl before you go up for 3300 (have not been there a while so prices may have changed).

In the other direction on Nanjing Sec. 5 is my favorite barber shop. I have done several reports on the place previously so you can read up on the place. For 3300 you get a woman (no young ones here) but they have a seperate place where they have real beds so you can stretch out and give her a good hump. Girls are not that young but some are comparable to Ceasers (only with brighter lights) and many fuck like horny teenagers and I usually have a lot of fun there.

So stay on Nanjing and go up and down the street. Cheers

Abc Boy
07-01-10, 05:12
I am too timid.

Shittiest "report" ever.

Sounds like you need to call YUKI and have the girl delivered to your hotel room, 3K only. YUKI phone numbers are available in the back of any English newspaper in Taipei.

Mr X 69
07-04-10, 11:32
I don't know if you guys use CL to look for fun or not, but there has been a notice that appeared a couple of times recently; reading:

"This website has been monitored by the Taiwan (R.O.C.) po-lice. Whoever spreads, broadcasts or issues the news and information concerning sex service (sex trade) in the website may violate Taiwan laws (maximum sentence is up to 7 years imprisonment). If the post is made in Taiwan, the actor’s mobile phone and Internet service may be suspended. For visitors to Taiwan, please refrain from posting or seeking the abovementioned illegal service in Taiwan. "

I am not sure who is behind this, or if it is to be taken seriously or not, but just wanted to let everyone know. CL was also hit a while back with somebody deleting all posts, marking them as spam so they would be deleted.

Otherwise, happy hunting!

Romeo0310
07-11-10, 00:25
Need help! 3 serious questions about Taiwan

1. How do you meet or approach girls in Taiwan outside of "conservative introductions through friends"? I mean, the way I meet and chat up girls in Europe, Russia, The Philippines and even America definitely does NOT work in Taiwan. Saying "Hi how are you" or "Excuse me miss" or flirting or complimenting them does NOT elicit an open sociable response from them. They either react by ignoring you or looking annoyed, and you get the vibe that it is inappropriate.

Even the act of approaching them itself feels uncomfortable, creepy, inappropriate and out of bounds. I KNOW it is not my imagination or due to any lack of bravery on my part either. It's like the vibe of the culture is constantly telling me "Mind your own business. Do not talk to girls that you see. Keep your distance and leave them alone.communication is for business-related purposes only. We exist to work, not socialize. "

So what can you do? How do you get an introverted, repressed, closed, and stuck up girl to open up? (pardon my frankness)

Is there a socially acceptable Chinese way of approaching or chatting up girls in Taiwan?

2. How do you even tolerate living in Taiwan for long? Every time I go out I feel so depressed and gloomy. It's awful. I am very sensitive and feel vibes and energy around me very acutely. Everywhere I go in Taiwan, I see these highly REPRESSED cold stuck up closed inhibited faces everywhere. Their body language is of total introversion and inhibition, especially the young females. It makes them almost INHUMAN, like robots or zombies who have been "altered" like in some scary sci fi horror movie! That gets me down, just like the ant****ial, anti-stranger, cliquish mentality of the US does. So how the hell do you tolerate that here? I could not live here for very long, despite the good food and modern conveniences.

3. Why do none of the expat blogs about Taiwan mention the above? Is it cause it's taboo to say these things even though they're true? Or is it because Taiwan tends to attracted reserved introverted expats as well, so they don't notice anything abnormal? Or are they too polite to be honest, so they only say nice positive things to avoid offending anyone?

I can't imagine any average Joe in the US coming to Taiwan and fitting in. Taiwan seems to be a workaholic culture, not a fun, relaxed, passionate culture. But of course, it's taboo to mention that, because you aren't supposed to see things the way they are.

Can you give me serious answers to these questions, with no bull or politically correct claptrap?

Thank you.

Update: I was just at Pizza Hut today. And damn! This SUPER HOT girl walked in with sexy smooth legs and face. I said Hi to her but she ignored me. I wanted to say it louder or approach her, but it felt so illegal and wrong! I hate that! It was EXCRUCIATING just sitting there and watching her, not being able to do anything about it! I felt so handicapped and incapacitated. I hate that. Every time I go out in Taiwan this happens! I can't stand it! What can I do? Why can't Taiwan be more socially open like most other countries? How do other expats here tolerate this? It's EXCRUCIATING and painful to deal with this everyday here! It's so FRUSTRATING beyond words! What can I do?

What I hate the most is that it is taboo to point out the truth about this, just like in the US, where no matter how unfairly men are treated by women, no matter how many double standards there are against them, they cannot complain about it or tell the truth about it, else they will be condemned as losers, sexists or mysnogymists. That sucks. Essentially you aren't allowed to say the truth, but are expected to follow the hive mentality and mind control that the culture and media programs into you, no matter what! It's like "follow your programming, do not speak the truth".

Member #4214
07-11-10, 05:15
I don't know if you guys use CL to look for fun or not, but there has been a notice that appeared a couple of times recently; reading:

"This website has been monitored by the Taiwan (R.O.C.) po-lice. Whoever spreads, broadcasts or issues the news and information concerning sex service (sex trade) in the website may violate Taiwan laws (maximum sentence is up to 7 years imprisonment). If the post is made in Taiwan, the actor’s mobile phone and Internet service may be suspended. For visitors to Taiwan, please refrain from posting or seeking the abovementioned illegal service in Taiwan. "

I am not sure who is behind this, or if it is to be taken seriously or not, but just wanted to let everyone know. CL was also hit a while back with somebody deleting all posts, marking them as spam so they would be deleted.

Otherwise, happy hunting!

The warning is true and should be heeded, in my view. I posted some on this a year back or so on the general topic board. Search for that - you might find it instructive. In a nutshell, it is illegal to solicit online in Taiwan, and LE actively enforces those laws. CL might work fine in other jurisdictions. Not for P4P in Taiwan, or high risk of meeting LE or scam, I think.

Jasiv3
07-11-10, 11:37
Need help! 3 serious questions about Taiwan

1. How do you meet or approach girls in Taiwan outside of "conservative introductions through friends"? I mean, the way I meet and chat up girls in Europe, Russia, The Philippines and even America definitely does NOT work in Taiwan. Saying "Hi how are you" or "Excuse me miss" or flirting or complimenting them does NOT elicit an open sociable response from them. They either react by ignoring you or looking annoyed, and you get the vibe that it is inappropriate.

Even the act of approaching them itself feels uncomfortable, creepy, inappropriate and out of bounds. I KNOW it is not my imagination or due to any lack of bravery on my part either. It's like the vibe of the culture is constantly telling me "Mind your own business. Do not talk to girls that you C. Keep your distance and leave them alone.communication is for business-related purposes only. We exist to work, not socialize. "

So what can you do? How do you get an introverted, repressed, closed, and stuck up girl to open up? (pardon my frankness)

Is there a socially acceptable Chinese way of approaching or chatting up girls in Taiwan?

2. How do you even tolerate living in Taiwan for long? Every time I go out I feel so depressed and gloomy. It's awful. I am very sensitive and feel vibes and energy around me very acutely. Everywhere I go in Taiwan, I see these highly REPRESSED cold stuck up closed inhibited faces everywhere. Their body language is of total introversion and inhibition, especially the young females. It makes them almost INHUMAN, like robots or zombies who have been "altered" like in some scary sci fi horror movie! That gets me down, just like the ant****ial, anti-stranger, cliquish mentality of the US does. So how the hell do you tolerate that here? I could not live here for very long, despite the good food and modern conveniences.

3. Why do none of the expat blogs about Taiwan mention the above? Is it cause it's taboo to say these things even though they're true? Or is it because Taiwan tends to attracted reserved introverted expats as well, so they don't notice anything abnormal? Or are they too polite to be honest, so they only say nice positive things to avoid offending anyone?

I can't imagine any average Joe in the US coming to Taiwan and fitting in. Taiwan seems to be a workaholic culture, not a fun, relaxed, passionate culture. But of course, it's taboo to mention that, because you aren't supposed to see things the way they are.

Can you give me serious answers to these questions, with no bull or politically correct claptrap?

Thank you.

Update: I was just at Pizza Hut today. And damn! This SUPER HOT girl walked in with sexy smooth legs and face. I said Hi to her but she ignored me. I wanted to say it louder or approach her, but it felt so illegal and wrong! I hate that! It was EXCRUCIATING just sitting there and watching her, not being able to do anything about it! I felt so handicapped and incapacitated. I hate that. Every time I go out in Taiwan this happens! I can't stand it! What can I do? Why can't Taiwan be more socially open like most other countries? How do other expats here tolerate this? It's EXCRUCIATING and painful to deal with this everyday here! It's so FRUSTRATING beyond words! What can I do?

What I hate the most is that it is taboo to point out the truth about this, just like in the US, where no matter how unfairly men are treated by women, no matter how many double standards there are against them, they cannot complain about it or tell the truth about it, else they will be condemned as losers, sexists or mysnogymists. That sucks. Essentially you aren't allowed to say the truth, but are expected to follow the hive mentality and mind control that the culture and media programs into you, no matter what! It's like "follow your programming, do not speak the truth".Are you a foreigner. Blond hair blue eyes. Etc. If so. I doubt it will be hard to find a girl in tw. Most girls are happy to be picked up by foreigners. Because I am taiwanese I know what they're thinking. Unless you're below average looking. ABC should work too. With just average looking. You can get tons of girls.

If really. You couldn't pick up any girls on street. Try clubs. There u'll def. Pick up girls. So. Good luck. MOST twnese girls are crazy for foreigners. But maybe just a few repells it.

Abc Boy
07-11-10, 23:25
Need help! 3 serious questions about Taiwan

1. How do you meet or approach girls in Taiwan outside of "conservative introductions through friends"? I mean, the way I meet and chat up girls in Europe, Russia, The Philippines and even America definitely does NOT work in Taiwan. Saying "Hi how are you" or "Excuse me miss" or flirting or complimenting them does NOT elicit an open sociable response from them. They either react by ignoring you or looking annoyed, and you get the vibe that it is inappropriate.



Dude, you need to have game and not just approach a girl and expect them to welcome you with open arms. I never have trouble getting them to chit-chat a bit with me, and believe it or not some girls do go there to just have fun with their personal friends and not to hook up with guys, even thought if you have game they will also not mind.




2. How do you even tolerate living in Taiwan for long? Every time I go out I feel so depressed and gloomy. It's awful. I am very sensitive and feel vibes and energy around me very acutely. Everywhere I go in Taiwan, I see these highly REPRESSED cold stuck up closed inhibited faces everywhere. Their body language is of total introversion and inhibition, especially the young females. It makes them almost INHUMAN, like robots or zombies who have been "altered" like in some scary sci fi horror movie! That gets me down, just like the ant****ial, anti-stranger, cliquish mentality of the US does. So how the hell do you tolerate that here? I could not live here for very long, despite the good food and modern conveniences.


You're sounding like a psycho and you need to lite up. Taiwan is one of the friendliest and fun city in the world IMHO. I don't know exactly what's your problem and I'm getting the feeling perhaps the problem is not Taiwan but the man in the mirror.




3. Why do none of the expat blogs about Taiwan mention the above? Is it cause it's taboo to say these things even though they're true? Or is it because Taiwan tends to attracted reserved introverted expats as well, so they don't notice anything abnormal? Or are they too polite to be honest, so they only say nice positive things to avoid offending anyone?



Nope, it's you.




Can you give me serious answers to these questions, with no bull or politically correct claptrap?



Yes, the only correct answer is to affirm what you say. Otherwise it's "bull" or "politically correct claptrap", ok, stay in your fantasy world. While an American like me keep enjoying the hospitality, warmth, and juicy bodies of Taiwan girls.

Thank you.

Chris Wang
07-12-10, 01:23
A1: Are you telling me that everybody would ACTUALLY try to interact with you or have a conversation with you regardless the fact you are a TOTAL stranger back in America? I doubt it. It's true Asian people are more reserved and they are definitely intimidated by foreigners. Keep in mind that most people here don't speak English. So to strike a conversation with the locals. You have to speak the language. Also. If you think that you can just walk around and hit on any girl and that you'll score. You are WRONG. I think it's your approach. Why don't you hang out with me. I'll teach you the right way of doing things here.

A2: You must be in all the wrong places in Taiwan. Next time you are in Taiwan. Give me a call. I'll show a completely different perspective of Taiwan. I've been here for 15+ years. And I'm loving it. But then again. A bit of variety is always good.

Reply to Pizza Hut update: As mentioned before. Are you telling me that everyone would respond to your "Hi's" back home? Remember. English to them is like Greek to you. (Pizza Hut? You actually think you can score with a person at Pizza Hut? Let's not even mention score. Why would someone want to talk to you at Pizza Hut?)


Need help! 3 serious questions about Taiwan

1. How do you meet or approach girls in Taiwan outside of "conservative introductions through friends"? I mean, the way I meet and chat up girls in Europe, Russia, The Philippines and even America definitely does NOT work in Taiwan. Saying "Hi how are you" or "Excuse me miss" or flirting or complimenting them does NOT elicit an open sociable response from them. They either react by ignoring you or looking annoyed, and you get the vibe that it is inappropriate.

Even the act of approaching them itself feels uncomfortable, creepy, inappropriate and out of bounds. I KNOW it is not my imagination or due to any lack of bravery on my part either. It's like the vibe of the culture is constantly telling me "Mind your own business. Do not talk to girls that you C. Keep your distance and leave them alone.communication is for business-related purposes only. We exist to work, not socialize. "

So what can you do? How do you get an introverted, repressed, closed, and stuck up girl to open up? (pardon my frankness)

Is there a socially acceptable Chinese way of approaching or chatting up girls in Taiwan?

2. How do you even tolerate living in Taiwan for long? Every time I go out I feel so depressed and gloomy. It's awful. I am very sensitive and feel vibes and energy around me very acutely. Everywhere I go in Taiwan, I see these highly REPRESSED cold stuck up closed inhibited faces everywhere. Their body language is of total introversion and inhibition, especially the young females. It makes them almost INHUMAN, like robots or zombies who have been "altered" like in some scary sci fi horror movie! That gets me down, just like the ant****ial, anti-stranger, cliquish mentality of the US does. So how the hell do you tolerate that here? I could not live here for very long, despite the good food and modern conveniences.

3. Why do none of the expat blogs about Taiwan mention the above? Is it cause it's taboo to say these things even though they're true? Or is it because Taiwan tends to attracted reserved introverted expats as well, so they don't notice anything abnormal? Or are they too polite to be honest, so they only say nice positive things to avoid offending anyone?

I can't imagine any average Joe in the US coming to Taiwan and fitting in. Taiwan seems to be a workaholic culture, not a fun, relaxed, passionate culture. But of course, it's taboo to mention that, because you aren't supposed to see things the way they are.

Can you give me serious answers to these questions, with no bull or politically correct claptrap?

Thank you.

Update: I was just at Pizza Hut today. And damn! This SUPER HOT girl walked in with sexy smooth legs and face. I said Hi to her but she ignored me. I wanted to say it louder or approach her, but it felt so illegal and wrong! I hate that! It was EXCRUCIATING just sitting there and watching her, not being able to do anything about it! I felt so handicapped and incapacitated. I hate that. Every time I go out in Taiwan this happens! I can't stand it! What can I do? Why can't Taiwan be more socially open like most other countries? How do other expats here tolerate this? It's EXCRUCIATING and painful to deal with this everyday here! It's so FRUSTRATING beyond words! What can I do?

As mentioned before. Are you telling me that everyone would respond to your "Hi's" back home? Remember. English to them is like Greek to you.

What I hate the most is that it is taboo to point out the truth about this, just like in the US, where no matter how unfairly men are treated by women, no matter how many double standards there are against them, they cannot complain about it or tell the truth about it, else they will be condemned as losers, sexists or mysnogymists. That sucks. Essentially you aren't allowed to say the truth, but are expected to follow the hive mentality and mind control that the culture and media programs into you, no matter what! It's like "follow your programming, do not speak the truth".

Exile
07-12-10, 03:46
Need help! 3 serious questions about Taiwan

Don't let the haters here rip on you too much. Monger boards are haven for politically correct bullshit - you are wise to spot it in advance. I mean, a player like you who has banged chicks across the world obviously knows what he is doing. I agree with the work, work, work mentality. You go to any club and see the girls checking their phones, probably responding to client emails and stuff. The same girls were obviously hiding their repressed nature by wearing the smallest, shortest skirts you can imagine......it was, honestly, sad. Yesterday, I went nearly a quarter of a block without seeing arse, legs or fishnets and thought that I then knew what it was like in North Korea or Iran! Fuck!

I am really surprised the pickup you tried at Pizza Hut didn't work because I used to try that all the time. Generally, I would do what you did - just yell out "Hi" and sometimes "Hey yo!" to random girls when the walked in the door and usually - I mean, not always but 9 of 10 - they would rip their clothes off and mount me on the table! I know! However, I am no longer allowed in any Pizza Huts so assumed that this continued to work.

Exile
07-12-10, 06:06
Reply to Pizza Hut update: As mentioned before. Are you telling me that everyone would respond to your "Hi's" back home? Remember. English to them is like Greek to you. (Pizza Hut? You actually think you can score with a person at Pizza Hut? Let's not even mention score. Why would someone want to talk to you at Pizza Hut?)

Come on, Chris. Girls who go to Pizza Hut are asking for it. Besides, back in the US, if a foreigner were sitting in a Pizza Hut, saying 'hi' to hot chicks who walked in, they would probably get the numbers of 85% and bang close to all of those by that night.

Exile
07-12-10, 06:13
All jokes aside, I imagine that the situation is something like this:

1). Romeo's not local nor do I think that he is white/black. That leaves us with him considering himself an ABC or CBC despite the fact that he was actually born here in Taiwan.

2). He probably speaks at least kitchen-table Chinese but is functionally illiterate.

3). Having no connections from school, work, etc, he feels that he is on the outside looking in as Taiwanese do indeed tend to move within social groups though with younger generations these are very flexible.

4). and.......I am going to guess that either Mommy and Daddy have decided to move back to the motherland or else they have sent him to live with Gramps and Granny out in the countryside somewhere. Although posting in the Taipei section, if I could, I would bet that he is nowhere near Taipei or any of the three other major cities for that matter.

5). The super-vibe awareness of people thing has left me stumped. Perhaps he is actually part-alien or something?

Ragnarok42
07-13-10, 01:07
Looks like I missed out on a lot of the fun the past few days while I was getting my ass roasted off in Shanghai and getting serious blue balls from lack of action (which I remidied first thing I got back last night).

Lets cut Romeo some slack. He obviously thinks he has the moves with the ladies (why else would he call himself "Romeo") and feels slighted by the girls here. All I can add is this:

lighten up, act natural and dont blame your trouble with women on the culture here. Taiwan girls like any other country will natrually be cautious of any stranger that approached them with an obvious pick up or look of raw hunger.

Best of luck to you.

Ragnarok42
07-13-10, 01:29
Ok folks, enough playing with Romeo and his hurt ego.

Lets get back to why this website exists, lets start posting again.

I got a girl last night to cure my blue balls and my provider told me that the 3.5K China girls were in seriously short supply and that she would let me have a 5K for 4K. Girl was cute and thin, slightly older looking face (too much makeup) but had a seriously tight body and really got into it. We both came screaming together in our best attempt to try and wake the neighborhood cats and snuggled afterwards. Definately a repeat call (but she is NOT in the 5K price range).

Any other brothers finding that 5K doesnt garuantee a Taiwan girl anymore and they seem to be trying to trying to phase out the 3.5K girls. Give me your thoughts and experiences.

Mr X 69
07-13-10, 08:58
The warning is true and should be heeded, in my view. I posted some on this a year back or so on the general topic board. Search for that - you might find it instructive. In a nutshell, it is illegal to solicit online in Taiwan, and LE actively enforces those laws. CL might work fine in other jurisdictions. Not for P4P in Taiwan, or high risk of meeting LE or scam, I think. I must have missed your report, sorry. Still, it does give food for thought. Another thing to be wary of and take precautions for. Let's hope it all gets legalized soon so the only thing we need to worry about is which girl (s) to choose!

Abc Boy
07-13-10, 15:02
Ok, back in Taipei for 1 quick week of work. And the first 4 days my company had me tied down at work and I'm so tired I went straight back to the hotel and sleep.

Today it was an off day and I called up my manager. To my surprise he didn't say "see you at Emperor" this time, but told me there's a newly opened "Dress clothes shop" named Taipei Garden that he wanted me to try, and there are a couple of top quality model-esque girls. So off I went.

Got this girl named "Tzi-Tzi", very friendly, very talkable, and a model indeed! Face 9, Body 9, Attitude 9. However, she has a FUCKING COLD. Sneezing every 3 minutes..... so obviously I can't take her out. Ask for the other model girl, name is "Yao Qin" and I was disappointed at first because I would only rate her face 7 (although you might rate her 10, she has a child-like cute face, but I do not like them looking like young girl, I like them looking like young working woman.) But her body is an easy 9.5

Talk, sing, play games, the same drill. I have to admit normally I would bump her because it's painfully obvious to me she's shy and timid and not fun to be around. But I've wasted an hour and a half with Tzi Tzi that I can't bump her and spend another hour with another girl. So I decided to take her out.

Went to dinner, and my goodness she acts like my sister more than my pay-date. Shy, not talkative, NO SERVICE. I am struggling to tell her go home and call my manager to demand a refund, but then I decided to give this 20-year-old a break and just do her and go home.

The special part was decent. She refused to take shower together, and is very timid in bed at first. But after I work my magic fore-play she's into it and boy is she tight! Good, that tells me she isn't a regular in the "take out" business and she only agrees to do me because... well... she kind of likes me and feels safe with me, that boosts my ego a bit. She's so tight like a virgin that kind of saved the night.

Good attitude in riding me, and missionary, but refused doggy style... interesting....

All in all, my first average KTV experience. I felt like I pay for a deadfish and she wasn't cheap (she demanded that I pay for her all day to do the Special), but all in all, good fun.

Taipei Garden. At the intersection of Sing-Sen North Road and Jinzhou Road.

Abc Boy
07-15-10, 02:33
Hi guys. My manager delivers again! He told me there's a new KTV that just opened a month ago, it's name is "Eastern City" and it is right next to the MRT Nanking East Road Station. It is embedded in an office building thought so I really don't feel comfortable making a second visit. I mean foot traffic is so much it's like everytime you hit an elevator 50+ other people will see you.

Anyway, went there. The joint is solid and it's a new adventure: you can pick either Uniform girls or Dress Clothes girls. Being an adventurous guy I picked both, LOL. We sang and play games and 30 minutes later it was obvious each girl was doing their best to get my full attention and away from the other girl, LOL.

Although unfortunately I don't like to do 2 girls at once so when it's takeout time I had to choose, but damn it was a tough decision. I picked "Qui Wa" instead (literally translate to Ghost Baby, I think she should change her name), but anyway, she was awesome. Talkative, body a bit short, but good attitude in bed. Great mounter and takes it all in.

So if you're a KTV guy ask your manager to take you to "Eastern City" if that's your thing. I won't go back again, too many office people riding the elevator with you. But I heard they have over 300 girls at any given time ready to serve you.

Ragnarok42
07-15-10, 05:28
Hi guys. My manager delivers again! He told me there's a new KTV that just opened a month ago, it's name is "Eastern City" and it is right next to the MRT Nanking East Road Station. It is embedded in an office building thought so I really don't feel comfortable making a second visit. I mean foot traffic is so much it's like everytime you hit an elevator 50+ other people will see you.

Anyway, went there. The joint is solid and it's a new adventure: you can pick either Uniform girls or Dress Clothes girls. Being an adventurous guy I picked both, LOL. We sang and play games and 30 minutes later it was obvious each girl was doing their best to get my full attention and away from the other girl, LOL.

Although unfortunately I don't like to do 2 girls at once so when it's takeout time I had to choose, but damn it was a tough decision. I picked "Qui Wa" instead (literally translate to Ghost Baby, I think she should change her name), but anyway, she was awesome. Talkative, body a bit short, but good attitude in bed. Great mounter and takes it all in.

So if you're a KTV guy ask your manager to take you to "Eastern City" if that's your thing. I won't go back again, too many office people riding the elevator with you. But I heard they have over 300 girls at any given time ready to serve you.

That is too sweet buddy. This place is literally a 7 min. from where I work. But give us an idea of prices, I am one broke MoFu.

Maybe if you go with a couple guys it wont seem so conspicuous. So round up a few brothers and go hunting.

Bbc Taipei
07-15-10, 08:58
Hi all,

As a longterm Taiwan resident, want to share with brothers of alternative 'mongering' than has been listed here.

Namely, in Banchaio you will find these 'Tea Service places' where you can pick a girl, pay around NTD 1, 800, take her back in a small dark compartment (sofa and table) and fool around with her or around 1 hour, meaning you can touch her all over, and she will as part of service will 'release your little brother'. But if the girl likes you, you can do the full monty with her on the spot-but then for an extra NTD3, 000. And if she really likes you, you can get her mobile mobile, and meet her elsewhere.

Quality of girls, guess range from 4 to 8. But main point, most are young in their early twenties and you get to pick your choice. If none is there to your liking, there are like 3 'tea places' in the same area.

Most girls are doing this on the side and are not professionals. Key point is girl has to like you, to go further than minimum service.

Anyway, just wanted to share other options here.

Ragnarok42
07-16-10, 00:54
Namely, in Banchaio you will find these 'Tea Service places' where you can pick a girl, pay around NTD 1, 800, take her back in a small dark compartment (sofa and table) and fool around with her or around 1 hour, meaning you can touch her all over, and she will as part of service will 'release your little brother'. But if the girl likes you, you can do the full monty with her on the spot-but then for an extra NTD3, 000. And if she really likes you, you can get her mobile mobile, and meet her elsewhere.

Quality of girls, guess range from 4 to 8. But main point, most are young in their early twenties and you get to pick your choice. If none is there to your liking, there are like 3 'tea places' in the same area.


thanks for the tip but most of us long time brothers or lurkers already know about MomoTea. Seems most are either closed or staffed with women who could be my mother. I know there are places in Banchiao but no other specifics.

Any places to start looking? Be general since you have no idea who is reading your posts or send the information to us on PM. Thanks.

Xxx Poison
07-16-10, 13:55
Hi Guys,

I recently moved to Taiwan for work but I don't live in Taipei. I come to Taipei on the weekends. Could someone provide the names of short-time hotels in Taipei to try out Yuki's girls ? Are these hotels ok with Yuki's girls walking through the front door ?

Thanks!

Member #4214
07-16-10, 16:27
Hi Guys,

I recently moved to Taiwan for work but I don't live in Taipei. I come to Taipei on the weekends. Could someone provide the names of short-time hotels in Taipei to try out Yuki's girls ? Are these hotels ok with Yuki's girls walking through the front door ?

Thanks!

Yuki's girls are welcome everywhere, except occasionally at the Hyatt, depending how they dress. (??) Love motels are all over the place in Taipei, just keep your eyes open. Even the regular hotels typically offer rooms for 'xiuxi' if you ask.

Please - do a minimal amount of work and RTFF before you start posting basic questions.

Exile
07-19-10, 02:36
Any places to start looking? Be general since you have no idea who is reading your posts or send the information to us on PM. Thanks.

I knew that there were MomoTea places in Banquiao but have never spent the time to try and find them. If anybody knows the specifics, PM me and I will check them out.

Zed430
07-19-10, 10:42
Was looking at the Kijiji site. You can find all kind of things in there. Anyone tried? Some look like real independend services, others look like scams and some are obvious agencies. I might test one next week.

Tony Gee
07-21-10, 08:20
was looking at the kijiji site. you can find all kind of things in there. anyone tried? some look like real independend services, others look like scams and some are obvious agencies. i might test one next week.hi guys, it's been a while since i've went back to taiwan and logged onto this forum. i'll be moving to taiwan soon and have been doing some homework, checked out kijiji as zed430 mentioned. some are obvious scams and others look promising.

one of the listings has a link to this page with information on the "massage therapists" along with some photos: http://www.abc87654.com/
if you click on the pull down menu there are outcall and studio masseuse, some studio mt are close to my place, will be giving them a try next month.

meanwhile zed430 your scouting report would be much appreciated.

Thomas Jefferson
07-21-10, 16:56
Checked our favourite sauna again this week. Everything goes normal, 4200 a pop. Facitlities need a renovation but still "ok".

Was there 3 days ago in the afternoon, there was a police control when I entered the waiting area. 5 policemen sitting on a center table and drinking juice and talking to the person in charge and fill out a lot of papers. They did not care the customers, but the entrance to the upstair floor was closed and I was asked to wait a moment, after 20 min they were gone and I was brought upstairs.

I can recommend no. 11 and no. 67 who did an outstanding service today, she even did some DFK after we warmed up in 69 position.

I checked the bbs in nanjing road near China airlines office. But only grandmas in there and they wanted around 3000 for full service, no way. I rather add 1000 and go to ceasars for 1 hour full service.

Went to the massage place in nanjing Road 99 which was mentioned earlier, this is closed and empty.

Last week went to longshan area momo tea shops. Talked long with one mama (grandma) outside one teashop and she showed me in her shop their "candies". They have girls reserved for japanese customers from China and from vietnam, very young between 18-22. You will not see them in the front side. I choose one cute 21 year old girl from China for "momo tea". Sitting in one small room and have a drink together. You can touch her and she will touch you. You can talk in Chinese to her, but no english at all. Sitting for drink was 600 twd for 1 hour. And I payed her another 1500 for BBBJ, which I got in the room. They also provided FS upstairs, but she wanted 5000twd which was far too much (but she looked worth it, I almost agreed!).

With some effort and some Chinese it is possible to get a nice girl in longshan area.

Very near is kanding road. That evening there were around 20 girls SW, waiting for customers, some very cute, some grandmothers, older and uglier than my grandma (and she is dead already! Haha). Anyway the cute one asked about 2500-3500twd for one pop in a near by hotel (which will be extra), they ask you to go to hotel first, check in and she will come 1 min later. I did not try. Some a bit older, but still ok looking asked about 1800-2000. I asked at least 15 of the 20 girls (did not asked the grannies).

Tomorrow heading back to my home, had a nice time in taipei as always. Never tried the KTV so far, but I think it is out of my budget. Maybe next time I will save the money for one night in KTV and not 3-4 times in ceasars.

Thomas Jefferson

P.S. There were police controls in all nightclubs in taipei last night, hope everybody was not botherd too much by this.

Sent19
07-21-10, 23:33
Hi guys. My manager delivers again! He told me there's a new KTV that just opened a month ago, it's name is "Eastern City" and it is right next to the MRT Nanking East Road Station. It is embedded in an office building thought so I really don't feel comfortable making a second visit. I mean foot traffic is so much it's like everytime you hit an elevator 50+ other people will see you.

Anyway, went there. The joint is solid and it's a new adventure: you can pick either Uniform girls or Dress Clothes girls. Being an adventurous guy I picked both, LOL. We sang and play games and 30 minutes later it was obvious each girl was doing their best to get my full attention and away from the other girl, LOL.

Although unfortunately I don't like to do 2 girls at once so when it's takeout time I had to choose, but damn it was a tough decision. I picked "Qui Wa" instead (literally translate to Ghost Baby, I think she should change her name), but anyway, she was awesome. Talkative, body a bit short, but good attitude in bed. Great mounter and takes it all in.

So if you're a KTV guy ask your manager to take you to "Eastern City" if that's your thing. I won't go back again, too many office people riding the elevator with you. But I heard they have over 300 girls at any given time ready to serve you.Hey ABCBoy, any chance you'll be in Taiwan in early October? I'm headed that way after Macau/China and would love to partake in some activities in my own motherland. Could certainly use your expertise and would be nice to be able to monger with someone in Taipei. I only have cousins there and they are not in the scene.

Et888
07-22-10, 19:31
Checked our favourite sauna again this week. Everything goes normal, 4200 a pop. Facitlities need a renovation but still "ok".

Was there 3 days ago in the afternoon, there was a police control when I entered the waiting area. 5 policemen sitting on a center table and drinking juice and talking to the person in charge and fill out a lot of papers. They did not care the customers, but the entrance to the upstair floor was closed and I was asked to wait a moment, after 20 min they were gone and I was brought upstairs.

I can recommend no. 11 and no. 67 who did an outstanding service today, she even did some DFK after we warmed up in 69 position.

I checked the bbs in nanjing road near China airlines office. But only grandmas in there and they wanted around 3000 for full service, no way. I rather add 1000 and go to ceasars for 1 hour full service.

Went to the massage place in nanjing Road 99 which was mentioned earlier, this is closed and empty.

Last week went to longshan area momo tea shops. Talked long with one mama (grandma) outside one teashop and she showed me in her shop their "candies". They have girls reserved for japanese customers from China and from vietnam, very young between 18-22. You will not see them in the front side. I choose one cute 21 year old girl from China for "momo tea". Sitting in one small room and have a drink together. You can touch her and she will touch you. You can talk in Chinese to her, but no english at all. Sitting for drink was 600 twd for 1 hour. And I payed her another 1500 for BBBJ, which I got in the room. They also provided FS upstairs, but she wanted 5000twd which was far too much (but she looked worth it, I almost agreed!).

Tomorrow heading back to my home, had a nice time in taipei as always. Never tried the KTV so far, but I think it is out of my budget. Maybe next time I will save the money for one night in KTV and not 3-4 times in ceasars.

Thomas Jefferson

P.S. There were police controls in all nightclubs in taipei last night, hope everybody was not botherd too much by this.Hi,

Will the customer get raided during the police checking? Is this frequent happen in Ceasar & Jin Hua.

Thanks

Et888
07-22-10, 20:19
Dear,

Coming to Taipei for 2 nights business trip, read about the Caesar at Asia Wolrd Shopping Centre, but after I google it show this place only had up to 8 floor. Where can I find 15 Floor as mentioned in all the report. Will apprecaite some help to PM me on the exact location of this place and also Jing Hua.

Thank you

Exile
07-23-10, 01:12
Will the customer get raided during the police checking? Is this frequent happen in Ceasar & Jin Hua.

A spa like Ceasar's is so open that they have to be fairly well-connected. I believe that there have been reports here of police coming in and the place having no problems getting customers out of rooms in time. They pay taxes and probably a bit more under the table-if SC were as well connected to politicos, they would still be in business.

Ditto88
07-23-10, 12:53
Hi all,

As a longterm Taiwan resident, want to share with brothers of alternative 'mongering' than has been listed here.

Namely, in Banchaio you will find these 'Tea Service places' where you can pick a girl, pay around NTD 1, 800, take her back in a small dark compartment (sofa and table) and fool around with her or around 1 hour, meaning you can touch her all over, and she will as part of service will 'release your little brother'. But if the girl likes you, you can do the full monty with her on the spot-but then for an extra NTD3, 000. And if she really likes you, you can get her mobile mobile, and meet her elsewhere.

Quality of girls, guess range from 4 to 8. But main point, most are young in their early twenties and you get to pick your choice. If none is there to your liking, there are like 3 'tea places' in the same area.

Most girls are doing this on the side and are not professionals. Key point is girl has to like you, to go further than minimum service.

Anyway, just wanted to share other options here.

Hi. That seems to be good news to me because I stayed previously at the Grand Forward Hotel in Banciao next to the Fuzhong MRT station. My previous 3 day trip last year was a dud so I have been delaying my business trip to Taipei because I can’t find any interesting mongering place.
Do you have more specific tips to look out for these Tea Service Places in Banciao ? Might be tempted to make a detour to Taipei on my next trip to China. Thanks.

Et888
07-23-10, 17:30
A spa like Ceasar's is so open that they have to be fairly well-connected. I believe that there have been reports here of police coming in and the place having no problems getting customers out of rooms in time. They pay taxes and probably a bit more under the table-if SC were as well connected to politicos, they would still be in business.OK, will try to find the place.

Thanks

Exile
07-23-10, 23:55
Hi. That seems to be good news to me because I stayed previously at the Grand Forward Hotel in Banciao next to the Fuzhong MRT station. My previous 3 day trip last year was a dud so I have been delaying my business trip to Taipei because I can’t find any interesting mongering place.
Do you have more specific tips to look out for these Tea Service Places in Banciao ? Might be tempted to make a detour to Taipei on my next trip to China. Thanks.

I heard that there used to be some in the area directly around Banqiao Train Station. However, I was out in that area last Thursday and looked around a bit and saw nothing - they have a lot of new apartments and developments and it looks far cleaner than it did before. Of course, I didn't look that long but, without having more details, they could be hard to find.

Ditto88
07-24-10, 12:13
I heard that there used to be some in the area directly around Banqiao Train Station. However, I was out in that area last Thursday and looked around a bit and saw nothing - they have a lot of new apartments and developments and it looks far cleaner than it did before. Of course, I didn't look that long but, without having more details, they could be hard to find.

Dang !! Thought so too !! Spending NT 10-20K for a pop is definitely unbearable for me since I’ll be going to China anyways….guess I will have to spend my spare time ogling at girls in XiMenDin. Should have taken my parents offer when they wanted to send me to Tawain for further studies..sigh.

Hopefully, someone might provide better directions to these places soon.

Jtansanco
07-24-10, 14:57
Been living for 3 months already and i'm still a newbie..

I just want to ask questions regarding Caesar's. (sorry for not using the search since i'm not really sure how to use it properly or just too lazy..)

I went there a few days back wandering around since I was in the area. Since the mall was in renovation, might as well check the place. As i got out of the elevator, i was greeted with a guy manager. It was my first time so i just wanted to know the services there.

They quoted me like 1,600 NT for the body massage (damn entrance fee). So, was wondering:

1) How do you avail of the fs which i heard was around 4k-5k NT?

2) Can you choose the girls?

3) I heard the age-range here are late 20s for the girls.. do they have younger ones? ....since i'm in my early 20s.

4) For the fs, do they finish the full 1 hour or once you pop, it's already done?

5) Do you tip the girls after? If so, usually how much?

Member #4214
07-24-10, 17:20
Been living for 3 months already and i'm still a newbie..

I just want to ask questions regarding Caesar's. (sorry for not using the search since i'm not really sure how to use it properly or just too lazy..)

I went there a few days back wandering around ...

'not really sure how to use it properly or just too lazy ...' just doesn't cut it pal.

That has to be one of the most conceited, self-centered posts I've read on any board in a long time. I just don't have polite words for you beyond RTFF.

TouringAsia
07-24-10, 19:07
I was out having a night of fun with dinner and drinks in the Taipei area. The area was filled with really good looking girls out for dinner and I felt the urge to hit the KTVs to have my own share of fun.

I went off to a place that I only been to once and was quickly brought into the KTV room. The manager assured me that the girl was really good and he went off and brought the girl in.

This place is a 'dress shop', hence the girls have nightgowns on albeit showing as much skin as possible. We end up in the room playing drinking games and the manager buying me a bottle of Ballatines, which was better than than the usual non-stop round of beers.

We ended up playing strip dice which obviously both me and the girl lost. The music started and she really started to grind all over me and pulling off some really sexy dance moves which got me really worked up.

Obviously, sex was on the mind and I asked the mummy to check us out and off we went to the motel for the night. The girl changed into her normal clothes and it was better than her nightgown as her 1 piece just covered the bottom of her ass.

We started romping in the room and I had an amazing sex-filled night. She was really into it, deep-throats, ass-rimming, and all sorts of stuff that really made me go for it. I ended up cumming 4 times in 6 hours.

Some of the stuff that really turned me on was when I was fucking her, she asked me to give it to her on face and mouth as she wanted to suck me dry. I was doing her doggy-style and she asked me to slap her ass as it made her feel good. She would cow-girl me, then BBBJ me, rim her for a good 5 mins, put on the rubber and ask me to give it to her hard. The only thing I think I never tried was to give it to her in the ass but she said that she wasnt drunk enough or she would want me to give it to her there !!!

All in all, a fun night out on the town by myself and the damage in total was
NTD 3,800 - Motel until noon
NTD 4,200 - 2 hrs in the room with 1 bottle of whisky
NTD 12,000 - Take-out fee from midnight to 8am
NTD 6,000 - Sex fees
Total: NTD 25,800

Girl Rating:
Looks: 7/10
Age: Uni-student (saw the student-id)
Body: 7/10 (dont expect model body, but pinkest nipples I saw and curvy when it mattered)
BBBJ, AR, DATY, FK, everything but anal only

I am very tempted to go again just for the anal but it will be some time before I spend this sort of money again. It is expensive but I thought it was well worth the service. :)

Jtansanco
07-25-10, 02:42
'not really sure how to use it properly or just too lazy. ' just doesn't cut it pal.

That has to be one of the most conceited, self-centered posts I've read on any board in a long time. I just don't have polite words for you beyond RTFF.I've been reading forums and I tried searching but it doesn't lead to the "caesar's" posts that I want to look at. It often goes back to '08 or even '03 or '04 posts. Either the info is here but on a different page or doesn't exist at all or I just can't find it.

Anyway, "most conceited, self-centered posts." I guess that's why I posted since this is a forum. Right?

Sorry, no pun intended. Just woke up on the wrong side of the bed.

Nco71
07-26-10, 06:49
Hello, I read a lot about longshan temple area but could not find it.

Few days ago I went to a bar called roxy99 near guting station. I met a weird old woman whose I didn t understand a world of her Chinese.

I did bring her back home with a taxi but she was definitively too weird. She brought me to longshan temple at 3am. There were lot of girls in the street and I wondered around.

They all proposed me a blowjob for 600 nt but I refused because the day after I would meet a good looking lonely mature wife.

Few days after I came back to longshan temple during the morning. There were a few girls and they were quite insisting.

I decided to follow one who bring me into a place with tables. Lot of old ladies sit next to me. Some of them not bad looking. They started masturbating me and all watching my dick. The situation itself was exiting cause the room was open and women keep coming in.

One old lady really liked me but she was ugly so I played with the other ones, touching them.

I took my time to come and finally left.

The damage was 3000 nt. They were even asking more money but I said it s enough. I think it s really expensive for the service, but again being with a room full of lady make me very horny so I don t regret that, good memory.

I wonder how much others mongers have paid for this kind of service in the same area.

Mongering in Taiwan is quite expensive and difficult. I had more luck catching girls on craiglist (although american taiwanese girls mostly) and on nightclub.

Girls are rather complicated here.

Screweu
07-26-10, 08:44
Too good to be true.

Cheap trick to self promote you can cum 4X overnight.

P/s: You should introduce her to your daddy...and grandpa too since she is soooo awesome!


I was out having a night of fun with dinner and drinks in the Taipei area. The area was filled with really good looking girls out for dinner and I felt the urge to hit the KTVs to have my own share of fun.

I went off to a place that I only been to once and was quickly brought into the KTV room. The manager assured me that the girl was really good and he went off and brought the girl in.

This place is a 'dress shop', hence the girls have nightgowns on albeit showing as much skin as possible. We end up in the room playing drinking games and the manager buying me a bottle of Ballatines, which was better than than the usual non-stop round of beers.

We ended up playing strip dice which obviously both me and the girl lost. The music started and she really started to grind all over me and pulling off some really sexy dance moves which got me really worked up.

Obviously, sex was on the mind and I asked the mummy to check us out and off we went to the motel for the night. The girl changed into her normal clothes and it was better than her nightgown as her 1 piece just covered the bottom of her ass.

We started romping in the room and I had an amazing sex-filled night. She was really into it, deep-throats, ass-rimming, and all sorts of stuff that really made me go for it. I ended up cumming 4 times in 6 hours.

Some of the stuff that really turned me on was when I was fucking her, she asked me to give it to her on face and mouth as she wanted to suck me dry. I was doing her doggy-style and she asked me to slap her ass as it made her feel good. She would cow-girl me, then BBBJ me, rim her for a good 5 mins, put on the rubber and ask me to give it to her hard. The only thing I think I never tried was to give it to her in the ass but she said that she wasnt drunk enough or she would want me to give it to her there !!!

All in all, a fun night out on the town by myself and the damage in total was
NTD 3,800 - Motel until noon
NTD 4,200 - 2 hrs in the room with 1 bottle of whisky
NTD 12,000 - Take-out fee from midnight to 8am
NTD 6,000 - Sex fees
Total: NTD 25,800

Girl Rating:
Looks: 7/10
Age: Uni-student (saw the student-id)
Body: 7/10 (dont expect model body, but pinkest nipples I saw and curvy when it mattered)
BBBJ, AR, DATY, FK, everything but anal only

I am very tempted to go again just for the anal but it will be some time before I spend this sort of money again. It is expensive but I thought it was well worth the service. :)

Exile
07-27-10, 03:52
Too good to be true.

What part? You don't believe that take-out of a 7 girl is possible for $26k?

Exile
07-27-10, 03:56
Few days ago I went to a bar called roxy99 near guting station. I met a weird old woman whose I didn t understand a world of her Chinese.

I did bring her back home with a taxi but she was definitively too weird. She brought me to longshan temple at 3am.

This is probably the oddest thing that I have read here.


I wonder how much others mongers have paid for this kind of service in the same area.

I imagine that a lot have. You got a memorable experience out of it but, for future reference, seriously overpaid. Every gir......er, lad.....woman in the room is going to want something. I have paid girls (a very small amount) to go away). FS is available but I am pretty sure it won't happen in a group like you had.

People Power
07-27-10, 13:44
Dear everyone,

First and foremost, thanks to all the posts here which helped ease the "loneliness" of my business trips. Considering I have been a freeloader for a long while (reading, but not really contributing), I was tempted to share my "virgin" Yuki experience, considering that it was raw from my memory.

I am now here in Taipei alone with no friends, so I thought the safest bet is Yuki, although Caesar is probably 300 m walk down the street. I stay along Nanjing East Road.

I found the number on "Taiwan News" called and a lady picked. I told her I wanted someone slim, and fun. Probably regretted my lack of adjectives and descriptors. But that is another story to tell. Of course, I got pass the "NTD 5000, nope, it is NTD 3000" story very fast, thanks to your kind advice (to several members who gave the same advice).

45 mins and 2 reminder phone calls later, a girl turned up at my doorstep. Gosh, I was expecting maybe a 4/5 Taiwanese girl or a mainland Chinese girl. But somehow she was darker, didn't speak fluent mandarin, and definitely not local. My best guess was she was either Indonesian / Filipino, but she wouldn't tell after much probing. It sank my heart, since I could have paid far lesser when I was in Jakarta or Surabaya. Although one may argue the novelty of her speaking mandarin.

And it was downhill all the way there. She did ask if I was ok with her. I knew there was a return policy somewhere, and I read about rejections from some of the members, but I had no idea of how to play it. I have never sent a girl back home before. And I compromised.

And it became a routine shower, catbath, even her BJ was subpar, and she was BUSHY down the path to redemption. And all those thoughts killed any passion I had 45 minutes ago when I dialled the number. And I became so bored, I just asked her to give me a CBJ (she offerred CIM but I am quite wary about that), and sent her packing.

Overall, service was average. She was friendly, but just wouldn't cut my type. I guess I will try another service online through Kijiji? Anyone tried that before?

Name: Mally / Amaly (didn't pay attention. Didn't care)

Looks: 4/5 (I want to be more generous, but I felt like I was in Jakarta, and this contrasted with a 8/9 I saw in the lobby today)

Age: 25 (or so she claimed)

Body: 5 (well built, average with a flabby tummy. Signs of a previous childbirth, but her tits were firm, guess the only plus

Service: 5 (routine SOP, BJ was really subpar, and the flirting, licking wasnt fantastic)

Anal / BBBJ: didn't ask, didn't bother (rejected CIM, so I guess she could do BBBJ).

RTF: Definitely nope (although those on a lookout for exotic looks may want to consider). My soft spot still goes to the Taiwanese girls with their purring accent.

All in all, it was a bad experience for me, but as the saying goes "live by the sword, die by the sword". I would love to check out the KTVs, but it is very prohibitive with that kind of price range, and I agree with the forum members that China is probably a better bargain.

If I come here often enough I may consider developing a FB or FL. Found that you get much better GFE from this pool, but it takes time and efforts, so it is probably not everyone's cup of tea.

That said, thanks again for the info. And I hope this contribution helps in whatever little way it does in reinforcing the circle of info-sharing.

Cheers, dinner time (alone, again!)

Mr X 69
07-29-10, 10:25
Too good to be true.

Cheap trick to self promote you can cum 4X overnight.

I don't see why this is a boast as to how many times he can cum; rather a testament to her skills.

P/s: You should introduce her to your daddy...and grandpa too since she is soooo awesome!As far as I can see you have not posted here before; so why not be constructive and contribute something rather than being a total douche?

Member #4214
07-30-10, 00:35
Guys,

Looks like I'm posted to the US for a few months.

Question: What is it like accessing V in the states vs. Taiwan? In the US is it readily available over-the-counter? I will be in hotels and staying with family, so mail order won't work for me. Here in Taipei I'm buying OTC for NT$1.4k per box or about US$42.

Thanks ...

Bearsk
07-31-10, 03:43
You will need a prescription in the US.

Guys,

Looks like I'm posted to the US for a few months.

Question: What is it like accessing V in the states vs. Taiwan? In the US is it readily available over-the-counter? I will be in hotels and staying with family, so mail order won't work for me. Here in Taipei I'm buying OTC for NT$1.4k per box or about US$42.

Thanks ...

Bearsk
07-31-10, 03:49
Your have a zero posting record.
Touring Asia has several posts that are well written and interesting.
If you want to post some content or constructive comment then we will judge you by that.
Until then you are actually will be seen as the self promoter, Screweu.

Too good to be true.

Cheap trick to self promote you can cum 4X overnight.

P/s: You should introduce her to your daddy...and grandpa too since she is soooo awesome!

Bearsk
08-01-10, 20:07
I needed a late night massage - long flights, sore and jetlagged - too tired to justify extras.
Took a right turn from the Westin and walked 2 blocks. The sign says Spa with the crown symbol on it. Elevator to 2F, greeted by lady with good English. Offered Taiwanese barbershop massage - $900 per hour. Took one hour.

Nice lady probably mid 20S, minimal English, good massage with hot towels etc. Not too much eye contact and no offer of up sell or HJ but that was fine. May explore options on 3F another time.

Good option from Westin, will take people til at least 1am.

Wolfy187
08-02-10, 05:21
I needed a late night massage. Long flights, sore and jetlagged. Too tired to justify extras.

Took a right turn from the Westin and walked 2 blocks. The sign says Spa with the crown symbol on it. Elevator to 2F, greeted by lady with good English. Offered Taiwanese barbershop massage. $900 per hour. Took one hour.

Nice lady probably mid 20S, minimal English, good massage with hot towels etc. Not too much eye contact and no offer of up sell or HJ but that was fine. May explore options on 3F another time.

Good option from Westin, will take people til at least 1am.I go there a lot. Been going there for over 10 years. Never had any upsell but there is a 3rd and 6th floor. The 3rd floor is more of hte same as 2nd floor. They will take customers til 6AM. So I don't know why they would tell you 2am.

Never had any of the local girls offer extras, only one prc offered one time.

Good place for real massage though.

W.

Zed430
08-02-10, 13:55
Alright I took on some of these adds in Kijiji.

I got in touch with one of the posters who was basically a young mama. The funny thing is that several posters with different numbers had basically the same girls on their websites. Turns out they are all the same place. She was fairly honest with me by telling me that some of her colleagues are posted profiles of girls not in business. I called her today but unfortunately too early so none of the girls I considered was available.

I took then on another add that took me to a massage place on Zhongxiao East Road 4th sec between SYS memorial and the Dunhua station.

Called the place. Setup an appointment. The place had all the indications of not being legit. The masseuse had really short skirts. 90min for 2100. Kind of spendy so I thought some extra would be included.

Well I was wrong. After the 90min of an okay massage, the mama comes in and offers to upsell. To NT9800. That would include a card for 10 returns where I could get the same service for only NT200. Could sound decent but at the end it is a 90min massage for 1160 in average. The girls were kind of cute. 6-7 with very nice bodies.

For another 5k they offered me a royal service with all kinds of cream and a discount card to take the girl out. What do you do when you take a girl like this out? Any one tried? I haven't. Overall felt like a scam to me.

Bearsk
08-03-10, 02:26
Thanks, 6am is good to know for out of time zone travels.
The Westin concierge told me 1am, it was Sunday.

I go there a lot. Been going there for over 10 years. Never had any upsell but there is a 3rd and 6th floor. The 3rd floor is more of hte same as 2nd floor. They will take customers til 6AM. So I don't know why they would tell you 2am.

Never had any of the local girls offer extras, only one prc offered one time.

Good place for real massage though.

W.

Zed430
08-03-10, 15:32
Tried an agency off of the 8big.com website. I was quoted 5k

Went to a rest hotel and had the guy sent the first girl.

Was just ugly. I sent her back. He sent me another one later which looked ok until she opened her mouth and turn me off with her missing teeth. Total waste of time.

I had better luck with Yuki.

Thomas Jefferson
08-06-10, 08:54
Last month I went to ceasars sauna (see my report) and paid by creditcard.

The statement will show:

"CAESAR WORLD REST TAIPEI CITY

Family Restaurant"

Just in case your wife will see the creditcard bill.

Have fun

Thomas Jefferson

Abc Boy
08-08-10, 14:07
Last month I went to ceasars sauna (see my report) and paid by creditcard.

The statement will show:

"CAESAR WORLD REST TAIPEI CITY

Family Restaurant"

Just in case your wife will see the creditcard bill.

Have fun

Thomas Jefferson

I do not dare to use credit cards in Taiwan due to frequent occurence of scams and credit card frauds. You are brave.

Zodar
08-09-10, 07:52
Hey guys,

I've been in and out of places. I've used Yuki's service before and I've gotten girls that are beautiful and others that are ferocious. How do you turn away the ferocious looking girls? I mean, do you just tell them that you want somebody else and shut the door or do you call the service and ask them to send another girl?

Ragnarok42
08-10-10, 01:13
Hey guys,

I've been in and out of places. I've used Yuki's service before and I've gotten girls that are beautiful and others that are ferocious. How do you turn away the ferocious looking girls? I mean, do you just tell them that you want somebody else and shut the door or do you call the service and ask them to send another girl?

Don't be an asshole, at least have the manners to have her come in before telling them to send someone else. I have done so once in a while. Kinda makes for bad karma having her stand outside calling her driver so be decent and ask her to sit while you call in for another. She will leave after she calls the driver, usually within 5 min.

Abc Boy
08-16-10, 20:46
Hey guys,

I've been in and out of places. I've used Yuki's service before and I've gotten girls that are beautiful and others that are ferocious. How do you turn away the ferocious looking girls? I mean, do you just tell them that you want somebody else and shut the door or do you call the service and ask them to send another girl?

LOL, shut the door in the woman's face, yeah, that's a good one. How about be a gentleman and offer her a seat and a drink till her driver arrives to pick her up?

Roni44
08-23-10, 02:54
Okay, so it has been a while since I report anything, been pretty crazy at work and traveling.

Friday night, a buddy of mine call me up for a dinner after work and hit up one floor one phoenix. Since I refer a customer a month back, so 500NT discount for me this time. Normal fee 3000NT.

Anyhow after a quick dinner called up the manager, she asked to go the spot which is in Ximenting. Got to the location called up her and she asked what we were wearing? WTF this is the first. Anyhow, give her the quick description of our clothing, less than 10 min, a guy shows up stood next to us for a second or 2 then called out my last saying Mr. XXX, I looked over and he confirmed was me and told me what floor and what room, I went ahead first and while he is arranging a girl for my buddy. Got to the floor and rung the door bell, decent girl opened the door with a t-shirt and mini skirt, took a quick look and walked in. Chat a little had a smoke then proceed the session. Always start by showering together, the gal was fairly young 24, good body, a handful of breast, she started rubbing me over and did a quick wash, during the shower, she did pay attention to little john with some nice hand job. Got onto bed she started with massage first, it was ok, (not that I expect a professional massage), about 5 mins i flip over and she started kissing and sucking my nipple, but kinda emotionless. soon after put on the hat for CBJ. It was ok but I decided to take charge, laid her down and start doing my things, then she started to tell me no fingering, be gental on the nipple, WTF, it's not like I'm a animal but just regular fingering and sucking, anyhow, bend her over and gave her to her in doggy, again she was still emtionless. Finished in about 10 min and thought to myself this got to be the most dead fish I've encounter in one floor one phoenix.

After the deed I still had some times and waiting for my buddy to finish. Sat on the couch light up a smoke and chatted with her for a bit, suprising she was quite chatty and opened up lot more. Anyhow, this one floor one phoenix has much younger gals, but service is not consistant, but again all the girls are part timer not pros. Met my buddy downstair and asked how was his, he replied: she was eager to please.....and good looking. Overall, ok experience for me, will repeat and try different gals. Damage 2500NT

Zed430
08-27-10, 16:31
Okay, so it has been a while since I report anything, been pretty crazy at work and traveling.

Friday night, a buddy of mine call me up for a dinner after work and hit up one floor one phoenix. Since I refer a customer a month back, so 500NT discount for me this time. Normal fee 3000NT.

Anyhow after a quick dinner called up the manager, she asked to go the spot which is in Ximenting. Got to the location called up her and she asked what we were wearing? WTF this is the first. Anyhow, give her the quick description of our clothing, less than 10 min, a guy shows up stood next to us for a second or 2 then called out my last saying Mr. XXX, I looked over and he confirmed was me and told me what floor and what room, I went ahead first and while he is arranging a girl for my buddy. Got to the floor and rung the door bell, decent girl opened the door with a t-shirt and mini skirt, took a quick look and walked in. Chat a little had a smoke then proceed the session. Always start by showering together, the gal was fairly young 24, good body, a handful of breast, she started rubbing me over and did a quick wash, during the shower, she did pay attention to little john with some nice hand job. Got onto bed she started with massage first, it was ok, (not that I expect a professional massage), about 5 mins i flip over and she started kissing and sucking my nipple, but kinda emotionless. soon after put on the hat for CBJ. It was ok but I decided to take charge, laid her down and start doing my things, then she started to tell me no fingering, be gental on the nipple, WTF, it's not like I'm a animal but just regular fingering and sucking, anyhow, bend her over and gave her to her in doggy, again she was still emtionless. Finished in about 10 min and thought to myself this got to be the most dead fish I've encounter in one floor one phoenix.

After the deed I still had some times and waiting for my buddy to finish. Sat on the couch light up a smoke and chatted with her for a bit, suprising she was quite chatty and opened up lot more. Anyhow, this one floor one phoenix has much younger gals, but service is not consistant, but again all the girls are part timer not pros. Met my buddy downstair and asked how was his, he replied: she was eager to please.....and good looking. Overall, ok experience for me, will repeat and try different gals. Damage 2500NTWould you mind referring me then?

How did you get to know the manager?

Roni44
08-30-10, 04:15
Would you mind referring me then?

How did you get to know the manager?

If you can speak good chinese, then I have no problem referring, PM me for more details.

I know the manager from a local buddy

Whitemancantjump
09-01-10, 22:50
Brothers, I am headed back to Taipei in a few weeks and switching from Sherwood to Far Eastern Hotel. Any massage w/ perks close to that area? And, what is the best night to hit up Carnegies? Ladies Night? Thanks in advance for your comments.

Openitup123
09-02-10, 15:06
Where are the best places to get a massage with happy ending?

Thanks for the info.

Hiro Nakamura
09-03-10, 03:45
Hi guys, it's been a while since I posted as I was in ShenZhen on a biz trip.

Again I wish my company can send me there more often. The service there as we all know it is just cheap and damn awesome, sigh I love sauna!!!

Aight back to expensive and high maintenanced tw girls.

before I went to China I tried ABC Boys recommended Kijiji site. Called the number his friend recommended. I used Mandarin. Asked about the massage after some negotiation they quoted 1500NTD for 2 hours. I was like wow, that is a deal. 30 mins later, girl shows up at my rest hotel door.

She was just ok looking but nice body. Let her in, she told me to get naked, massage starts. I was wondering at this moment why she hadn't taken a shower? Started to chat her up, she told me they use to service big hotels and they pick their customers too. She told me their receptionists, through our conversation, thought I was trustworthy which is why she came.

So after about 15mins of some very good massage, best I've had yet. She told me if I wanted extra service. I was like, I thought it's included? She said no, it's not and for handjob its 2000 NTD and for full service its 4000NTD. In my head im going ok, scammed! But I was damn horny after the massage so I caved in. Yes, I know I know I shouldn't have, or at least negotiated on the price but I didn't. So after I paid, then she went to shower, after that it was basically CBJ, cow girl, mish to finish.

Face:7
Body:8
Age: late 20s
GFE: not at all
Massage: 10
Skill: 9 (this is a true professional)
Overall Damage: NTD 500 (rest for 2 hours) + 1500 + 4000 = NTD 6000

Would not repeat as I rather go to Ceasers or yuki for this kind of service and price.

Hiro Nakamura
09-03-10, 04:17
Yes I know this is a boring subject but hear me out.

Sunday morning, I thought hey why not, since I'm up early and 67 and 68 only works mornings so I went. Turns out 67 is off until WED and 68 is off until next month. I was like, man, I really don't like any of the other girls there, was about to call it off but still decided to have some faith.

First girl came in, ew, second girl, great body but she looked 45, third girl, ok, mid 30s, fairly good looking. I was really tempted to send her back too but in fear of getting killed, I let her stay.

She was very cold in the beginning but warmed up after we talked. I found out they have shifts so it's not if you send a girl back they will provide a prettier one, it's more of a they will send the one who's shift is next in line.

She told me they have a rest area that has a TV and wireless internet and all the girls hangout there, there's about 40 girls in the morning shift, that lasts from 6am~3pm, there's a noon shift from 1pm~10pm and then the night shift. Obviously more girls during the night shift. And that she used to work at KTVs as a "princess".

Then I asked her what guys from different countries has she provided service to. She told me, lots, from Europeans to Americans to Koreans, Japanese. Then I asked her which type is her fav.

She said that Americans and Europeans are more gentle and caring, usually if she asks them to stop doing something because it's hurting her they will. They generally care about the well-being of the girls.

Japanese people are very very polite she said with a smile.
Koreans are fairly polite but can be fairly bossy.

So I asked her what about Taiwanese guys?

To my surprise and I'll quote her from now on:

"Taiwanese guys are the worst!! All these guys from other countries, they somewhat respect a girl, well maybe also because they are in a foreign land but Taiwanese guys think they are the ultimate king if they pay, and since they've paid they can do anything"

"We have doctors, lawyers and judges that come here and you can tell they are really stressed from their everyday life and they take it out on the girls"

"We can feel their pressure all the time because it's sex and it's horrible"

"I have had a doctor that always come in before he has to perform a surgery and I hate him!"

"These doctors are all perverted, so many of my friends have been harrassed by doctors when they go examine their private parts, as we are in this kind of business we know the difference of an examination or just pure harrassment"

Well she went on and on, but that was the massage part, she also went on and on during the other part of the session but a different kind of on and on, lol.

CBJ, cow girl, mish to finish.

Face: 7
Body: 8
GFE: a little bit
Skills: 10
Massage: 10

Overall damage: NTD 4200

Only if Ceasers had younger girls no?

Ragnarok42
09-06-10, 01:21
After introductions by our fellow brother Roni, I decided to try out his contact for One floor one phoenix yesterday afternoon. After security and procedures that would shame the Pentagon I finally got to the room.

Girl was cute with way too much makeup (glitter makeup is for nightime clubbing not mid-afternoon) but she had an amazing body, thin and tight and a great attitude. Room was spotlessly clean and very cosy. The two of us chatted for a good 15 min just to get to relax before we hit the shower. She had an even better body when she stripped and I was really looking forward to it.

We got into bed and she started to lick from top to bottom, but when she got down there she started to put on a condom. Huh? They still do that now? All the girls I have had do BBBJ but I guess they do things differently. I told her to use the condoms I brought (I always bring my own these days, the 003 Japanese super thin type) and she happily obliged. We had relaxed and fun sex for a while changing many positions and finished with her in a deep cowgirl.

After cleaning up we snuggled and chatted a few more min. She told me they are open from 1.00pm to 4.00am but only take Chinese speakers. Many are ABC or locals, very rarely they get Japanese and Korean and never any Caucasians. Most of them work 8 hours shifts so there are not fixed "sessions" like Ceasars.

Total cost for about 1 hour was 3000, a real bargain if you think they charge 1500 for 15 min in SC for a dirty metal shack. My new favorite place and will definately see my girl again.

Roni44
09-06-10, 03:10
After introductions by our fellow brother Roni, I decided to try out his contact for One floor one phoenix yesterday afternoon. After security and procedures that would shame the Pentagon I finally got to the room.

Girl was cute with way too much makeup (glitter makeup is for nightime clubbing not mid-afternoon) but she had an amazing body, thin and tight and a great attitude. Room was spotlessly clean and very cosy. The two of us chatted for a good 15 min just to get to relax before we hit the shower. She had an even better body when she stripped and I was really looking forward to it.

We got into bed and she started to lick from top to bottom, but when she got down there she started to put on a condom. Huh? They still do that now? All the girls I have had do BBBJ but I guess they do things differently. I told her to use the condoms I brought (I always bring my own these days, the 003 Japanese super thin type) and she happily obliged. We had relaxed and fun sex for a while changing many positions and finished with her in a deep cowgirl.

After cleaning up we snuggled and chatted a few more min. She told me they are open from 1.00pm to 4.00am but only take Chinese speakers. Many are ABC or locals, very rarely they get Japanese and Korean and never any Caucasians. Most of them work 8 hours shifts so there are not fixed "sessions" like Ceasars.

Total cost for about 1 hour was 3000, a real bargain if you think they charge 1500 for 15 min in SC for a dirty metal shack. My new favorite place and will definately see my girl again.

Hey Rag, glad you had fun. Sorry I wasn't sure about the operation time, but in the end, but good to hear it worked out for you. I know this establishment mostly operated in that building, however they have few other locations in motel. Not sure about the quality difference, but one of my buddy was sent to the motel and the gal was good from what I heard. I have another establishment I'm testing out now, once I confirm it's as good as this one, I'll let you know.

Roni44
09-06-10, 03:24
Ok, it's been a while since I went to this KTV. Last friday, met up with few friends for quick dinner and off we went. Got there around 8, and was seated right a way. First line up, maybe around 15 gals, second line up around 15 as well. The girls are ok, but very playful personality. I quickly regret of my selection as she got close to me, but her attitude made it ok. The usual, strip, dance, dice games, follow by saran wrap bj with finish by HJ. Overall, fun session, the girls are ok in looks, but some with very good body. Damage, 2500NT one and half hr with manager tip 1000 splited by 3 person.

Hiro Nakamura
09-06-10, 04:44
Ok, yes well another twist to boring old Ceasers.

Had 67, 10mins in she asked me if I like to have another girl. I hesitated as I've never done two girls at once but said to myself hey, why not? She told me that she knows this girl very well, that's why she's willing to do this.

So 5 mins later another girl shows up and she looks exactly like 67! like they're twins or something. (Turns out they're cousins)

What followed can only be described as the best session I've ever had.

Started off with a two girl CBJ, well I won't go into details because I'm sure a lot of the senior members have done this and I'm just like a kid who saw porn for the first time. But it was awesome. I came twice, which was agreed before hand since I'm paying double but time frame remained at 50mins.

Damage: NTD 8500 = NTD 4200 X 2 + 100 (Shoe Cleaning)
Service: Best Ever, it was like i was doing twins (well under that kind of dark lighting, heck I could be doing Jennifer Love Hewitt)

67 did tell me not to tell people about this since she only did it as she knows me fairly well, so you did not hear this from me, but I think all the bros here should ask their fav. number at Ceasers if she provides this kind of service because it was just fun.

Ragnarok42
09-06-10, 05:31
Hey Rag, glad you had fun. Sorry I wasn't sure about the operation time, but in the end, but good to hear it worked out for you. I know this establishment mostly operated in that building, however they have few other locations in motel. Not sure about the quality difference, but one of my buddy was sent to the motel and the gal was good from what I heard. I have another establishment I'm testing out now, once I confirm it's as good as this one, I'll let you know.

Don't worry about that, just happy that you could recommend me to such a place. The girl did tell me that they change places too for safety. Good to see that they open so early (good for weekends) and they are open so late (good for an after work snack).

Not sure about quality since I only have been there once. Might try again tonight late to see if we get part time OL girls. Will tell you if anything interesting appears.

Tony Gee
09-07-10, 03:47
Hello all, I've finally moved back to Taiwan after years in the States.

Based on a tip I received from a local Chinese forum I visited a Thai style bath massage in Ximending. Called the lady up, no hassle, no reference required, gave me the general location and said to call back when I get there. The location is in a resident apartment near Guo Bin theater, small place with basic furniture. The masseuse is in her late 30's to early 40's, not much in the top, but very nice skin.

The Thai bath takes place on a massage table placed in the small bathroom, I'm just 5'8" and my feet were hitting the wall, so you taller mongers might have to maneuver yourself to fit on the table. This is only my 2nd Thai bath experience, but the lady did a great job IMO, cleaned me up thoroughly and pretty good at the body to body wash, wish she had bigger tops though, would make it much more enjoyable.

After the bath is off to the bed, for all of you that's been to Ceasar's (pretty much everyone), you'll recognize the warm tea rimming routine, followed by bbj and covered FS. She was tighter than expected which was a nice surprise. Small talk after the deed, nice lady with good attitude.

And the best part? Total damage was just NTD 2000 for 1 hour! Plus she's ok with web referrals, pm me for contact info if you're interested, but you might want to ask her if she's ok with none Taiwanese first.

Roni44
09-07-10, 09:58
Hello all, I've finally moved back to Taiwan after years in the States.

Based on a tip I received from a local Chinese forum I visited a Thai style bath massage in Ximending. Called the lady up, no hassle, no reference required, gave me the general location and said to call back when I get there. The location is in a resident apartment near Guo Bin theater, small place with basic furniture. The masseuse is in her late 30's to early 40's, not much in the top, but very nice skin.

The Thai bath takes place on a massage table placed in the small bathroom, I'm just 5'8" and my feet were hitting the wall, so you taller mongers might have to maneuver yourself to fit on the table. This is only my 2nd Thai bath experience, but the lady did a great job IMO, cleaned me up thoroughly and pretty good at the body to body wash, wish she had bigger tops though, would make it much more enjoyable.

After the bath is off to the bed, for all of you that's been to Ceasar's (pretty much everyone), you'll recognize the warm tea rimming routine, followed by bbj and covered FS. She was tighter than expected which was a nice surprise. Small talk after the deed, nice lady with good attitude.

And the best part? Total damage was just NTD 2000 for 1 hour! Plus she's ok with web referrals, pm me for contact info if you're interested, but you might want to ask her if she's ok with none Taiwanese first.

Fair price I think, but the age just a turn off for me, check your pm

Hatguy
09-07-10, 11:58
Hi guys,

I'm usually posting in the Japan thread only but will be in Taiwan soon for a quick holiday. Can anyone tell me the exact location of Caesars? I do not speak any Chinese at all. Is this a problem? I speak Japanese though. And does anyone have tips for a good and cheap hotel in Taipei?

Enchoo
09-07-10, 21:06
How does the action here compare to Korea or Thailand?

I am asian but not chinese. Do you need to be fluent in Chinese to get any action here?

Have any of you approached any hot looking Betel nut girls? If so, what was the result? How do you start a conversation with them? Some of them look like models!

Ragnarok42
09-08-10, 01:01
Hi guys,

I'm usually posting in the Japan thread only but will be in Taiwan soon for a quick holiday. Can anyone tell me the exact location of Caesars? I do not speak any Chinese at all. Is this a problem? I speak Japanese though. And does anyone have tips for a good and cheap hotel in Taipei?

Corner of Nanjing and TunHwa North road, across the street from the Taipei Arena and with an Ikea in the basement. Building is called Asiaworld. Take the elevators on the side entrance (they are renovating the exterior) to the 15th floor. They are used to dealing with foreigners, see lots of white guys there. Don't imagine Japanese will be a problem or you can always use English or just pantomime. They are open 24/7.

Good luck

Tony Gee
09-09-10, 16:50
Thanks to brother Roni's introduction I had my first one floor one phoenix experience. Made the call, told to go to a specific intersection in Ximending. Took a little while to find the exact intersection as I'm not familiar with the back roads of Ximending, was told where to go and off I went to a building near by.

Contrary to what I've pictured the buildings hosing one floor one phoenix (from HK movies mostly), this place is very clean and very secure. The girl answered the door is named Xiao Qiao, she's tall and not a slim girl, a thought of calling back and asking for another one crossed my mind, but her smile and the fact it's my first time with the manager made me step in the room. The decision to stay turned out to be a good one.

First some chit-chat, then off to the shower. Xiao Qiao is in her early 20's, 166cm tall, a little more full figured than the average Taipei girl. On the bed she started with some light massage, on the flip she leaned in and game me a big hug, then some LFK, and one of the best BBBJ I've had in Taiwan. On goes the cover and we went through several positions, always good eye contact and LFK through out the session, this is the closest to GFE I've experienced in Taiwan, actually, it is GFE, complete with cuddling afterwards.

Great attitude, not a clock watcher, very easy going. She is a smoker but did a great job masking the smell and taste. Would repeat but I'd also like to try out their other talents.

Total cost 3000, it's a great value for the talents and the clean secure building, like Rag mentioned in his post, this is my new favorite place.

Ragnarok42
09-10-10, 01:18
Thanks to brother Roni's introduction I had my first one floor one phoenix experience. Made the call, told to go to a specific intersection in Ximending. Took a little while to find the exact intersection as I'm not familiar with the back roads of Ximending, was told where to go and off I went to a building near by.

Contrary to what I've pictured the buildings hosing one floor one phoenix (from HK movies mostly), this place is very clean and very secure. The girl answered the door is named Xiao Qiao, she's tall and not a slim girl, a thought of calling back and asking for another one crossed my mind, but her smile and the fact it's my first time with the manager made me step in the room. The decision to stay turned out to be a good one.

First some chit-chat, then off to the shower. Xiao Qiao is in her early 20's, 166cm tall, a little more full figured than the average Taipei girl. On the bed she started with some light massage, on the flip she leaned in and game me a big hug, then some LFK, and one of the best BBBJ I've had in Taiwan. On goes the cover and we went through several positions, always good eye contact and LFK through out the session, this is the closest to GFE I've experienced in Taiwan, actually, it is GFE, complete with cuddling afterwards.

Great attitude, not a clock watcher, very easy going. She is a smoker but did a great job masking the smell and taste. Would repeat but I'd also like to try out their other talents.

Total cost 3000, it's a great value for the talents and the clean secure building, like Rag mentioned in his post, this is my new favorite place.

I had a similar experience, girl was slightly bigger but had great eyes and decided to stay. Small tits but great attitude and got dripping wet even before we did the deed. Sex was even better than I expected.

So far batting 1000 for 2 trips. Should take a day off and just keep on sampling what they have every few hours, see what kind of talent shows up at 3 in the morning. I agree with Tony, my new favorite place.

Thanks again Roni for introducing us to this place, I owe you one.

Roni44
09-10-10, 03:56
I had a similar experience, girl was slightly bigger but had great eyes and decided to stay. Small tits but great attitude and got dripping wet even before we did the deed. Sex was even better than I expected.

So far batting 1000 for 2 trips. Should take a day off and just keep on sampling what they have every few hours, see what kind of talent shows up at 3 in the morning. I agree with Tony, my new favorite place.

Thanks again Roni for introducing us to this place, I owe you one.

Glad both ya enjoy the place. You guys don't owe me anything but a beer and dinner next time I arrange Saran wrap BJ KTV if anyone of u down to try. Again, I'm working on new OFOF, soon as I have good report, I'll pass around the info. Maybe I should negoitate with the manager for commission haha.

Curious Baby
09-10-10, 18:47
After getting a tip from Tony, I decided to go to Ximen and check it out today. It was 8pm, and i called her up. She sounded like from mainland, but later on found out she's a very local Taiwanese. A++ for that!

On to her place, pretty typical small apt in Taiwan. Saw the bath bed and I can't wait to take off my clothes. Great body, and nice skin for a 30+ woman, but small racks. We started to take off our clothes and off we go to the bath bed. Started off laying on my tummy. Clean me up with warm water and soap from head to toe with the shower head and her hands. Then she told me to get on my knees, ass high up. She started to clean my balls and little member real nice, including my hole. Then comes the fun part. She told me to lay back on my tummy... this is when she started to put some moisturizer soap on me, and started to do the body to body massage routine. I gotta tell you guys... I felt I was in heaven! But it was a pity she had small racks, or else it would've been perfect. Then comes the flip, she started to do a little bit of HJ and clean my member and my balls real nice. Then more body to body. My favorite was when she started to do a HJ using her thighs. Then she turned around and rub her pussy against my member. That felt so good! Finally, she told me toget up and started to clean me up, asked me to dry myself up.

Off to the bed, started lying on my back, did a light back massage. Then she asked me to get on my knees again. This time, she did the fire/ice routine rimming. And some nice slobbing on my balls. I almost lost it that time. Then the flip, and I had one of the best BBBJs in Taiwan(mostly CBJs), also fire/ice routine. Then comes the cover and we did mission, doggy. I tried to reach for her pussy, but it seems she didn't like anyone touching her there. Finally got to my back after the exercise, she HJ to finish. Then we went back to the shower and she cleaned me up while standing up. Some chit chat with her and had some tea before I head out.

Total damage 2K. Great service. No rush. Would definitely return again. She's a very private person. Doesn't go out much. And she doesn't really like coming without getting referrals. So I gotta thank Tony for giving me this opportunity!

Next stop, would love to try the One Floor One Phoenix place you guys are talking about :)

Tony Gee
09-11-10, 01:44
Total damage 2K. Great service. No rush. Would definitely return again. She's a very private person. Doesn't go out much. And she doesn't really like coming without getting referrals. So I gotta thank Tony for giving me this opportunity!Glad you had fun, for 2k it's a great way to escape the summer heat.

Frika
09-11-10, 17:34
This is probably the best report I've seen on here. I've only been in Taipei a few months so not much hobbying. But I'm very interested in this gal. I would love to get contact info if at all possible. Looking to break the ice here, just want to do it right!

Cheers


After getting a tip from Tony, I decided to go to Ximen and check it out today. It was 8pm, and i called her up. She sounded like from mainland, but later on found out she's a very local Taiwanese. A++ for that!

On to her place, pretty typical small apt in Taiwan. Saw the bath bed and I can't wait to take off my clothes. Great body, and nice skin for a 30+ woman, but small racks. We started to take off our clothes and off we go to the bath bed. Started off laying on my tummy. Clean me up with warm water and soap from head to toe with the shower head and her hands. Then she told me to get on my knees, ass high up. She started to clean my balls and little member real nice, including my hole. Then comes the fun part. She told me to lay back on my tummy... this is when she started to put some moisturizer soap on me, and started to do the body to body massage routine. I gotta tell you guys... I felt I was in heaven! But it was a pity she had small racks, or else it would've been perfect. Then comes the flip, she started to do a little bit of HJ and clean my member and my balls real nice. Then more body to body. My favorite was when she started to do a HJ using her thighs. Then she turned around and rub her pussy against my member. That felt so good! Finally, she told me toget up and started to clean me up, asked me to dry myself up.

Off to the bed, started lying on my back, did a light back massage. Then she asked me to get on my knees again. This time, she did the fire/ice routine rimming. And some nice slobbing on my balls. I almost lost it that time. Then the flip, and I had one of the best BBBJs in Taiwan(mostly CBJs), also fire/ice routine. Then comes the cover and we did mission, doggy. I tried to reach for her pussy, but it seems she didn't like anyone touching her there. Finally got to my back after the exercise, she HJ to finish. Then we went back to the shower and she cleaned me up while standing up. Some chit chat with her and had some tea before I head out.

Total damage 2K. Great service. No rush. Would definitely return again. She's a very private person. Doesn't go out much. And she doesn't really like coming without getting referrals. So I gotta thank Tony for giving me this opportunity!

Next stop, would love to try the One Floor One Phoenix place you guys are talking about :)

Wah Stephen
09-12-10, 00:13
(1) Yes, it is 4,200 plus 100 for shoe shinning - total 4,300
(2) One will come and if you say no, another one on the line will come.
(3) More like 30-45
(4) 50 minutes
(5) Not needed

Hope this helps. Young guy like you may not enjoy this. Try Jhonglit or SanChung areas

Stephen


Been living for 3 months already and i'm still a newbie..

I just want to ask questions regarding Caesar's. (sorry for not using the search since i'm not really sure how to use it properly or just too lazy..)

I went there a few days back wandering around since I was in the area. Since the mall was in renovation, might as well check the place. As i got out of the elevator, i was greeted with a guy manager. It was my first time so i just wanted to know the services there.

They quoted me like 1,600 NT for the body massage (damn entrance fee). So, was wondering:

1) How do you avail of the fs which i heard was around 4k-5k NT?

2) Can you choose the girls?

3) I heard the age-range here are late 20s for the girls.. do they have younger ones? ....since i'm in my early 20s.

4) For the fs, do they finish the full 1 hour or once you pop, it's already done?

5) Do you tip the girls after? If so, usually how much?

Wah Stephen
09-12-10, 00:15
Escaltors only go to 8/F.

Go to teh slide elevators and then you can go up to 15/F - the top floor.

Stephen


Dear,

Coming to Taipei for 2 nights business trip, read about the Caesar at Asia Wolrd Shopping Centre, but after I google it show this place only had up to 8 floor. Where can I find 15 Floor as mentioned in all the report. Will apprecaite some help to PM me on the exact location of this place and also Jing Hua.

Thank you

Wah Stephen
09-12-10, 00:36
Wow, this is a very good deal. Congratulations. I would like to meet her too.

Stephen


After getting a tip from Tony, I decided to go to Ximen and check it out today. It was 8pm, and i called her up. She sounded like from mainland, but later on found out she's a very local Taiwanese. A++ for that!

On to her place, pretty typical small apt in Taiwan. Saw the bath bed and I can't wait to take off my clothes. Great body, and nice skin for a 30+ woman, but small racks. We started to take off our clothes and off we go to the bath bed. Started off laying on my tummy. Clean me up with warm water and soap from head to toe with the shower head and her hands. Then she told me to get on my knees, ass high up. She started to clean my balls and little member real nice, including my hole. Then comes the fun part. She told me to lay back on my tummy... this is when she started to put some moisturizer soap on me, and started to do the body to body massage routine. I gotta tell you guys... I felt I was in heaven! But it was a pity she had small racks, or else it would've been perfect. Then comes the flip, she started to do a little bit of HJ and clean my member and my balls real nice. Then more body to body. My favorite was when she started to do a HJ using her thighs. Then she turned around and rub her pussy against my member. That felt so good! Finally, she told me toget up and started to clean me up, asked me to dry myself up.

Off to the bed, started lying on my back, did a light back massage. Then she asked me to get on my knees again. This time, she did the fire/ice routine rimming. And some nice slobbing on my balls. I almost lost it that time. Then the flip, and I had one of the best BBBJs in Taiwan(mostly CBJs), also fire/ice routine. Then comes the cover and we did mission, doggy. I tried to reach for her pussy, but it seems she didn't like anyone touching her there. Finally got to my back after the exercise, she HJ to finish. Then we went back to the shower and she cleaned me up while standing up. Some chit chat with her and had some tea before I head out.

Total damage 2K. Great service. No rush. Would definitely return again. She's a very private person. Doesn't go out much. And she doesn't really like coming without getting referrals. So I gotta thank Tony for giving me this opportunity!

Next stop, would love to try the One Floor One Phoenix place you guys are talking about :)

Ditto88
09-12-10, 08:32
Oh Bugger..i just came back from Taipei scoring O points cooped up in the hotel room for 2 nights. Discounting the night market walks. It would have been fun if i had Roni's contact....triple bugger !!

Ragnarok42
09-13-10, 01:13
Since being introduced to the new OFOF place I have been there almost every night seeing what kind of girls they have, and being relatively cheap, I didnt break the bank (but have to live on instant noodles for the rest of the month).

Seems like the thinner girls work only until about 8 or 9, the girls that work the later shifts seems the B quality girls. After my two great initial experiences, the next few have been a mixed bag. While none have been outright bad, the definately didnt match the good ones I had the first two times. Two have been a little heavy and more business like in their approach. One was called Strawberry the other I forget (would not recommend) but the one I had last night was amazingly cute. Thin and petite with flawless skin and really got into it, telling me to "shoot a lot into me" and then complaining when I did not, haha.

She wouldnt tell me her name since she said she was super popular and lots of guys want to see her. Confident bordering on arrogant but she definately had the goods and delivered. I called the mamasan and got her name (will PM senior members) but she only works Sundays so guess yesterday was a stroke of good luck. Prices are a flat out 3K as previously mentioned, so still a good deal when you get girls like some of the ones I had previously, just make sure you remember their names and ask ahead of time to make sure they are working.

Roni44
09-13-10, 02:39
Since being introduced to the new OFOF place I have been there almost every night seeing what kind of girls they have, and being relatively cheap, I didnt break the bank (but have to live on instant noodles for the rest of the month).

Seems like the thinner girls work only until about 8 or 9, the girls that work the later shifts seems the B quality girls. After my two great initial experiences, the next few have been a mixed bag. While none have been outright bad, the definately didnt match the good ones I had the first two times. Two have been a little heavy and more business like in their approach. One was called Strawberry the other I forget (would not recommend) but the one I had last night was amazingly cute. Thin and petite with flawless skin and really got into it, telling me to "shoot a lot into me" and then complaining when I did not, haha.

She wouldnt tell me her name since she said she was super popular and lots of guys want to see her. Confident bordering on arrogant but she definately had the goods and delivered. I called the mamasan and got her name (will PM senior members) but she only works Sundays so guess yesterday was a stroke of good luck. Prices are a flat out 3K as previously mentioned, so still a good deal when you get girls like some of the ones I had previously, just make sure you remember their names and ask ahead of time to make sure they are working.

Funny thing is that Saturday nite, a friend of mine and I try to hit up the OFOF around 10pm, it was so got damn busy that we had to wait til 12:30, so we decided to call it off. (it has never happen to me before, the manager always save a gal for me regardless). The OFOF can be addicting esp. you have couple of good providers. I've search high and low ever since I moved back to TW. And MPOV, there is no better place offers same condition for the money.

Rag, save some money, I got few other places for u to try out, and welcome to the instant noodle club.

Roni44
09-13-10, 02:51
ok peeps, my pm has been pretty crazy regarding to referal for ofof. as much as i like to help everyone, i do need to set some rules:

1. you have to be senior member with active pm.

2. you have to speak fluent chinese.

3. if i don't get back to you, sorry nothing personal.

some of you pm'd me and asking if i'm affliate or holds any relationship to this ofof, no i do not associate with any of places i've posted, and just like you, i am a paying customer. if you are worry about getting distortion, black mail, or whatever else is going on your head, maybe you should find other alternative instead of pming me and asking silly questions.

roni44

Tony Gee
09-13-10, 05:03
Some of you PM'd me and asking if I'm affliate or holds any relationship to this OFOF, no I do not associate with any of places I've posted, and just like you, I am a paying customer. If you are worry about getting distortion, black mail, or whatever else is going on your head, maybe you should find other alternative instead of PMing me and asking silly questions.

Roni44Guys,

Roni is doing us a great favor in referring us to OFOP, I've been waiting years to try out this type of establishments and I really appreciate Roni for hooking me up. As in walking down the streets (especially in Taiwan) there are risks in mongering, if you worry too much then maybe it's better to stick to Ceasar's.

I'm trying very hard not to go too much at the moment trying to save money, so Roni & Rag, if you find some hidden gem please pass the names to me, it'll greatly appreciated!

Ragnarok42
09-13-10, 05:35
Funny thing is that Saturday nite, a friend of mine and I try to hit up the OFOF around 10pm, it was so got damn busy that we had to wait til 12:30, so we decided to call it off. (it has never happen to me before, the manager always save a gal for me regardless). The OFOF can be addicting esp. you have couple of good providers. I've search high and low ever since I moved back to TW. And MPOV, there is no better place offers same condition for the money.

Rag, save some money, I got few other places for u to try out, and welcome to the instant noodle club.

I was there Sunday night around 9pm too and ran into the same thing. But i had called ahead and prescheduled for a certain time but it took some time for keys to come back (waited an additional 10 min). I guess everyone wants a nice cheap place to monger.

I will try to only see those girls I had a good time with and stick mostly with my freebie sex whenever I can.

Cheers Roni, hope to do some field reports from other spots.

Roni44
09-13-10, 06:08
I was there Sunday night around 9pm too and ran into the same thing. But i had called ahead and prescheduled for a certain time but it took some time for keys to come back (waited an additional 10 min). I guess everyone wants a nice cheap place to monger.

I will try to only see those girls I had a good time with and stick mostly with my freebie sex whenever I can.

Cheers Roni, hope to do some field reports from other spots.


Ha, as matter of fact, trying to score a freebie myself tomorrow night, met her in Saran Wrap KTV, been talking to her on MSN and finally decide to take her out. she is ok looking maybe 7 at most, but young slim figure with nice set of perky breasts. So wish me luck.

Ragnarok42
09-13-10, 09:31
Ha, as matter of fact, trying to score a freebie myself tomorrow night, met her in Saran Wrap KTV, been talking to her on MSN and finally decide to take her out. she is ok looking maybe 7 at most, but young slim figure with nice set of perky breasts. So wish me luck.

More power to you buddy! Good luck!!
I am lucky, my freebie is a married woman so we usually only meet for 2, 3 hour romps with the occasional sleepover when hubby is out of town.

I have a FB who was in the business but now has a legit job. Never been with a freebie while she was still working, dont think I could handle that. Hope it works out for you.

Roni44
09-13-10, 09:45
More power to you buddy! Good luck!!
I am lucky, my freebie is a married woman so we usually only meet for 2, 3 hour romps with the occasional sleepover when hubby is out of town.

I have a FB who was in the business but now has a legit job. Never been with a freebie while she was still working, dont think I could handle that. Hope it works out for you.

Well, I'm gonna be as straight forward as possible, not looking to attach to this gal by all means, what she does doesn't really bother me. She is only been working in this field couple of weeks, and planning on quiting by Xmas.(so she says). I asked her if possible to see her outside of KTV and suprising she agreed. Got her msn and been chatting, I flat out told her I would like to see her in a better environment and have my way with her. Again, I was suprise she willing to meet me. So we'll see if she actually comes though tomorrow night. But I gotta hand it to you, nothing beats a married woman with no strings attached.

Ragnarok42
09-14-10, 01:11
But I gotta hand it to you, nothing beats a married woman with no strings attached.

Thanks buddy, everything they say about married women is true (especially when they are in their late 30s). This is already the second one I have been with and I find they are insatiable and very open to trying lots of different things.

Sure hope someone is not saying the same thing about my wife, hahaha.

Good luck tonight buddy. Make us proud.

Snoopy1112
09-14-10, 05:22
I will be staying in Taipei for 3 days, can anyone give me some advice about the OFOP thing? I really want to give it a shot.

JoseMarti
09-14-10, 11:34
New in Taipei. Got in today. I RTFF and am tempted to go to Carnegies and Room 18. Are these clubs that have freelancers? Whats the ST and LT rates there?

Thanks!
-JM

Salami
09-14-10, 14:40
I had an experience in Taipei that is worth reporting, just FYI. There is a paper in some 7-11 stores in English – "Taipei Times" I think. In the back there are many ads for 'special massage. "

I went to the address of one, and found the addresses are fake. Although I could find massage place at this address, it was NOT a special massage place. It turns out they are addresses NEARBY where a handjob provider works. Anyway, I called the phone number in the ad, and was told a girl would arrive and meet me on the street in front of the named address, in 5 minutes. They spoke English well enough to arrange this meeting.

She did arrive as promised, and she was decent looking. We walked about 4 blocks back to her apartment. I gave her 3000NT and got undressed. I would have liked a more leisurely foreplay, but she proceeded fairly quickly to a handjob with oil. She was not particularly skilled, but how bad can it feel having a cute girl's soft hands stroking your hard cock with oil? I started to feel an orgasm welling up in my balls.

Since I have a bit of an Asian foot fetish, I converted her over to a footjob. Like many massage girls, she was a bit perplexed at first when I started playing with her feet, but soon she got the idea of what I wanted her to do, and I could lay back and enjoy her smooth, soft little oiled feet stroking up and down my rock-hard erection. She was not particularly skilled at this either (maybe her first time), but she was cute and had very feminine, sexy feet. So it didn't take long watching her go at it before my cock lost control and started throbbing and shooting wads of hot fuck juice all over her pretty little feet and toes. She quickly cleaned up with tissues, and sent me to the shower.

In summary, she was clean, and quite pretty. But her attitude was extremely unenthusiastic, and she had no special skills other than looking pretty. Overall, I could have had a better or equivalent experience even in the USA. I probably won't try these ads again, but you might want to, depending on your other options. It was not a total rip-off. Just not spectacular service vs. Price compared to other options.

I did not ask about FS (sorry I should have asked for reporting purposes, even though I didn't want it). I have heard it is about 5000NTD, and that sounds about right, if a HJ is 3000NTD. Again, it is not a spectacular value, but I guess if you have 5000NTD and a hard-on, you could do worse.

Tony Gee
09-14-10, 21:54
I had an experience in Taipei that is worth reporting, just FYI. There is a paper in some 7-11 stores in English – "Taipei Times" I think. In the back there are many ads for 'special massage. "

I went to the address of one, and found the addresses are fake. Although I could find massage place at this address, it was NOT a special massage place. It turns out they are addresses NEARBY where a handjob provider works. Anyway, I called the phone number in the ad, and was told a girl would arrive and meet me on the street in front of the named address, in 5 minutes. They spoke English well enough to arrange this meeting.

She did arrive as promised, and she was decent looking. We walked about 4 blocks back to her apartment. I gave her 3000NT and got undressed. I would have liked a more leisurely foreplay, but she proceeded fairly quickly to a handjob with oil. She was not particularly skilled, but how bad can it feel having a cute girl's soft hands stroking your hard cock with oil? I started to feel an orgasm welling up in my balls.

Since I have a bit of an Asian foot fetish, I converted her over to a footjob. Like many massage girls, she was a bit perplexed at first when I started playing with her feet, but soon she got the idea of what I wanted her to do, and I could lay back and enjoy her smooth, soft little oiled feet stroking up and down my rock-hard erection. She was not particularly skilled at this either (maybe her first time), but she was cute and had very feminine, sexy feet. So it didn't take long watching her go at it before my cock lost control and started throbbing and shooting wads of hot fuck juice all over her pretty little feet and toes. She quickly cleaned up with tissues, and sent me to the shower.

In summary, she was clean, and quite pretty. But her attitude was extremely unenthusiastic, and she had no special skills other than looking pretty. Overall, I could have had a better or equivalent experience even in the USA. I probably won't try these ads again, but you might want to, depending on your other options. It was not a total rip-off. Just not spectacular service vs. Price compared to other options.

I did not ask about FS (sorry I should have asked for reporting purposes, even though I didn't want it). I have heard it is about 5000NTD, and that sounds about right, if a HJ is 3000NTD. Again, it is not a spectacular value, but I guess if you have 5000NTD and a hard-on, you could do worse.That's the most expensive hj i've heard of in Taiwan, should've gone to Ceasar's for 4200nt fs.

Roni44
09-15-10, 07:41
If anyone cares, I met with the girl last night in LinSen East Rd around 6:30. Took her out for a meal in the area. Shortly after, went to a short time motel nearby. Checked in, laid on the bed continue our chatting. Not sure how to act or initiate the session. So I got up and told her I was going for a shower and asked if she would like to join me. She politely told me she will be watching tv and wait for me. Got showered with only a rope on me to let her know I'm ready anytime. As I sit next to her on the bed and lean in for a kiss and see how she reacts. She did kissed me back and tell me she will be showering now. I patiently waited on the bed and change to the porn channel to set my mood. She got out shortly after with only rope on her. Anyhow the rest you can figure out, don't want to bore you guys with details. I have to said the entire time I was wondering if I should offer her some money for the time. At end of our stays, I offer her some taxi money as she lives in Xindian (2000NT). At first she refuse to take it, but in the end I shove the money into her purse. Don't know if I'll ever ask her out again b/c it's just too much hassle. I think from now on, I'll stick with OFOP and I wonder if its' gonna be weird if I run into to her on my KTV runs.

Roni44
09-15-10, 07:42
I had an experience in Taipei that is worth reporting, just FYI. There is a paper in some 7-11 stores in English – "Taipei Times" I think. In the back there are many ads for 'special massage. "

I went to the address of one, and found the addresses are fake. Although I could find massage place at this address, it was NOT a special massage place. It turns out they are addresses NEARBY where a handjob provider works. Anyway, I called the phone number in the ad, and was told a girl would arrive and meet me on the street in front of the named address, in 5 minutes. They spoke English well enough to arrange this meeting.

She did arrive as promised, and she was decent looking. We walked about 4 blocks back to her apartment. I gave her 3000NT and got undressed. I would have liked a more leisurely foreplay, but she proceeded fairly quickly to a handjob with oil. She was not particularly skilled, but how bad can it feel having a cute girl's soft hands stroking your hard cock with oil? I started to feel an orgasm welling up in my balls.

Since I have a bit of an Asian foot fetish, I converted her over to a footjob. Like many massage girls, she was a bit perplexed at first when I started playing with her feet, but soon she got the idea of what I wanted her to do, and I could lay back and enjoy her smooth, soft little oiled feet stroking up and down my rock-hard erection. She was not particularly skilled at this either (maybe her first time), but she was cute and had very feminine, sexy feet. So it didn't take long watching her go at it before my cock lost control and started throbbing and shooting wads of hot fuck juice all over her pretty little feet and toes. She quickly cleaned up with tissues, and sent me to the shower.

In summary, she was clean, and quite pretty. But her attitude was extremely unenthusiastic, and she had no special skills other than looking pretty. Overall, I could have had a better or equivalent experience even in the USA. I probably won't try these ads again, but you might want to, depending on your other options. It was not a total rip-off. Just not spectacular service vs. Price compared to other options.

I did not ask about FS (sorry I should have asked for reporting purposes, even though I didn't want it). I have heard it is about 5000NTD, and that sounds about right, if a HJ is 3000NTD. Again, it is not a spectacular value, but I guess if you have 5000NTD and a hard-on, you could do worse.

WOW, 5000NT for a HJ, agree with Tony Gee, go Ceasar, you can't go wrong with 4200NT for FS

Hiro Nakamura
09-15-10, 12:05
If anyone cares, I met with the girl last night in LinSen East Rd around 6:30. Took her out for a meal in the area. Shortly after, went to a short time motel nearby. Checked in, laid on the bed continue our chatting. Not sure how to act or initiate the session. So I got up and told her I was going for a shower and asked if she would like to join me. She politely told me she will be watching tv and wait for me. Got showered with only a rope on me to let her know I'm ready anytime. As I sit next to her on the bed and lean in for a kiss and see how she reacts. She did kissed me back and tell me she will be showering now. I patiently waited on the bed and change to the porn channel to set my mood. She got out shortly after with only rope on her. Anyhow the rest you can figure out, don't want to bore you guys with details. I have to said the entire time I was wondering if I should offer her some money for the time. At end of our stays, I offer her some taxi money as she lives in Xindian (2000NT). At first she refuse to take it, but in the end I shove the money into her purse. Don't know if I'll ever ask her out again b/c it's just too much hassle. I think from now on, I'll stick with OFOP and I wonder if its' gonna be weird if I run into to her on my KTV runs.Nice Report Roni, however you do not sound too enthusiastic towards the whole experience. I did that once and took out a massage girl to a motel. It felt pretty weird afterwards, just like you I offered money and she declined, kinda felt bad towards the whole thing. I think all the more personal contacts (like msn, calls, txt) just makes it weird in the end. IMHO mongering is best when it's just cash and sex with no strings attached whatsoever, but thats just me, I'm sure most senior members will disagree and say a freebie is always better, just my 2 NT.

Hiro

Ragnarok42
09-16-10, 01:37
Don't know if I'll ever ask her out again b/c it's just too much hassle. I think from now on, I'll stick with OFOP and I wonder if its' gonna be weird if I run into to her on my KTV runs.

I was just about to PM you to ask how it went my friend, seems it was pretty mechanic. At least you didnt have to pay too much for her. I have a similar girl who I see every once in a while, she was a WG but is out of the business now but I still pay her every time we meet. We never had any problems getting starting or what to do since we started out with having sex and started to get to know each other better only after we started seeing each other on a regular basis. If anything I would say the sex has gotten a LOT better the more we know each other.

First time is always akward for both of you, I wouldnt write it off until one or two more dates. Should be much better and you can even ask her to find a girl to do 3P (those are the best sessions). Good luck.

Roni44
09-16-10, 02:58
I was just about to PM you to ask how it went my friend, seems it was pretty mechanic. At least you didnt have to pay too much for her. I have a similar girl who I see every once in a while, she was a WG but is out of the business now but I still pay her every time we meet. We never had any problems getting starting or what to do since we started out with having sex and started to get to know each other better only after we started seeing each other on a regular basis. If anything I would say the sex has gotten a LOT better the more we know each other.

First time is always akward for both of you, I wouldnt write it off until one or two more dates. Should be much better and you can even ask her to find a girl to do 3P (those are the best sessions). Good luck.

Don't give me wrong, I did had nice time with her. Just the arkwardness I felt, we continue chatting on MSN and don't know what she expect out of me. I did mention many times to her I'm not looking for relationship. I'm just worry in the long run, she may be more than I bargain for it. I do agree that with few more times, the sex will get better as she opens up more, but just not sure it's worth my time. But then again, I only think with my "little brain", so we'll see.

Tony Gee
09-16-10, 08:44
Decided to take a break from OFOP and contacted one of the freelancing young milfs I know, who in turn introduced me to one of her good friends as previously promised.

The lady is in her mid to late 30's, Ragnarok was right, married women in this age group are troopers and very accommodating. My condition was especially good today and managed to give her a good workout, it's been a while since a woman had to stop me three times during a session because she was too tensed up to move, made me feel like a champ:) I'll try to work this one into a freebie, or maybe I should start charging next time instead.

Think I'm in need of some young gals next, will be hitting up OFOP again sometime soon.

Ragnarok42
09-17-10, 00:19
The lady is in her mid to late 30's, Ragnarok was right, married women in this age group are troopers and very accommodating. My condition was especially good today and managed to give her a good workout, it's been a while since a woman had to stop me three times during a session because she was too tensed up to move, made me feel like a champ:) I'll try to work this one into a freebie, or maybe I should start charging next time instead.

Think I'm in need of some young gals next, will be hitting up OFOP again sometime soon.

So you paid for her time Tony? Married lady getting work on the side or just looking for a few hours of fun? Good for you my friend, always love it when these girls get more than they bargained for.

Many of the younger girls at these OFOP I find are quite business about their work but friendly. They are polite and friendly but you wont get them tearing at your hair and begging you to stop so they can catch their breath ;-)

Tony Gee
09-17-10, 02:48
So you paid for her time Tony? Married lady getting work on the side or just looking for a few hours of fun? Good for you my friend, always love it when these girls get more than they bargained for.

Many of the younger girls at these OFOP I find are quite business about their work but friendly. They are polite and friendly but you wont get them tearing at your hair and begging you to stop so they can catch their breath ;-)Was 3500nt before but I negotiated to a new rate of 3000nt just like OFOP, plus the motel fee. I like the OFOP girls for their friendly attitude and good quality of service. The OFOP girl I had seemed very enthused, or maybe she's just a good actress, no complaints here.

Used to order "tea" agency girls, they're mostly pretty & young part-time girls, but being overworked gave many of them somewhat unfriendly or rigid attitude. Plus the price has gone up significantly (8k - 10k now), so won't be trying them anytime soon.

Roni44
09-17-10, 03:48
I'm toying with the ideas of getting few ppl on the forum and arrange a Saran Wrap BJ KTV party since everyone is PMing me about it. Not exactly sure when but I'm thinking within few weeks. However you must:

1. Senior member and/or I've reply your PM.

2. The meet shall be Friday or Saturday night around 8~9 b/c thats when the shift change and have most girls available.

3. The quality of gals are ok, don't expect knockout, but girls are fun and willing to play. rating from 3~7 at most.

4. The fee will be 3000NT for hour and half, all inclusive. (All you can drink beers)

5. When in session, you need to be comfortable to strip down to only pair of undie on you. And when the main event comes, you will be complete nake. Then Saran Wrap BJ for few mins and finish off with HJ.

Again, I'm just toying the ideas now, b/c even myself having hard time getting naked in front of bunch of stangers I've never met. If possible, maybe all of us can meet up for 熱炒and beers in Linsen area, then we head over to KTV shortly after.

Anyhow, pm me if you are interested.

Curious Baby
09-17-10, 08:12
For those of you looking for special massage, this article may not interest you. But for deep tissue and nice oil massage, this is a nice place to go.

Just had a bad day at the office, so i decided to get a massage near where i live (Yungho). Called them up and made an appt for 7:30pm. So I got there just in time. First floor is for foot massages, but second floor is for full body massages. Of course I was there for a full body massage. Went there, took a shower and came out with just a towel and a pair of black disposable undies. Went to the room and lay down on the massage table. The masseuse was in her late 20's, a bit chubby, nice racks for taiwanese. Wears a white polo shirt and shorts. (it's their uniform, before they use to wear something tha shows more). On to the massage. First off starts with a nice deep tissue back massage, and kinda like shiatsu style on my legs. This is when i tried to talk to her to distract me from the pain i usually get from these. Then off to the best part, the oil massage. This is when I start to enter into dream-mode. She pulled down my black disposable undies right below my butt. Her gentle hands starts rubbing and giving me a nice back body oil massage all over. Very rare, you'll have oil massages that goes even near your private parts. But boy, she did! While I'm still lying down, she starts to rub oil and starts reaching my butt crack, and got as deep as rubbing my balls. Then she reaches from the side and starts massaging my front pelvic area, also small teasing my little member area. (not HJ, but surely the massage kept me excited!) Then the flip, a nice deep tissue on the belly and more on my inner thighs and pelvic. She knows I like it when she rubs near my privates. So she did more of that just for me :) What a sweetheart! Then a nice head rub with a towel. Off I go to the showers. And came out as a happy man. All stress and relief gone!

Total damage... 2.3K for a nice 3-hour massage. The normal massage is 2h for 1.5K. But since it's at a very reasonable price, I always get 3h instead. This place is legit and got some pretty nice looking masseuses. They got some vietnamese there too. But my masseuse is Taiwanese. Great place for a nice legit and some teasing oil massage at a great price!

Ragnarok42
09-21-10, 01:31
One of my all time favorite girls showed up last night after going MIA for over three months. Was surprised when I got the call from my mama telling me she was back, thought she was doing the old "bait and switch". But turns out it really was her and we hugged and said hello.

She was very shy initially about telling me where she had disappeared to but when she stripped it was pretty apparent. She had gotten a boob job! Turned her from a large A to a small C. They felt pretty natural and soft and I decided to take them out for a test drive.

This is where building a relationship really counts. After she showered she immediately starts to french kiss me like a horny school girl and then proceeds to give me BBBJ I will not soon forget. She gets on top and it seems like she has not had sex in three months, super sensitive and hungry. Total GFE (if your GF has not been plowed in three months) and left us both totally drained and satisfied. She gave me a light massage after, all the while giving me light kisses once in a while. Paid her standard 3500 (total bargain) and we said we look forward to out next meeting.

As I have always said, if you find a girl you like and have a good time with, call her often, treat her like a lady and she will ride you like a *****.

Hatguy
09-21-10, 07:28
Ragnarok42

Do you speak the local lingo? Is that why you seem to have so much fun?

Hatguy

Tony Gee
09-21-10, 08:51
Another satisfied visit to OFOP, went in early about 1:30pm this time, wanted to sample their early shift girls. Called and requested a slightly thinner girl, waited at the same spot, but was directed to a different location near by.

Door opened and I decided I'm staying right away. A cute little spinner welcomed me in the room, sweet girl from Southern Taiwan. Great service as my previous visit, this agency has good quality control.

Very intelligent and well educated, we chatted in depth about various topics, I actually learned some new useful info about Taiwan. She has a day job and will be going back to graduate school soon so won't be available on the weekends.

Really glad I got to meet this sweet girl, even told me to call her directly if I need advise about working & living in Taiwan, now that's good service!

Roni44
09-21-10, 09:57
Another satisfied visit to OFOP, went in early about 1:30pm this time, wanted to sample their early shift girls. Called and requested a slightly thinner girl, waited at the same spot, but was directed to a different location near by.

Door opened and I decided I'm staying right away. A cute little spinner welcomed me in the room, sweet girl from Southern Taiwan. Great service as my previous visit, this agency has good quality control.

Very intelligent and well educated, we chatted in depth about various topics, I actually learned some new useful info about Taiwan. She has a day job and will be going back to graduate school soon so won't be available on the weekends.

Really glad I got to meet this sweet girl, even told me to call her directly if I need advise about working & living in Taiwan, now that's good service!

Man, both u and Rag visit this place more than I do, glad you met a nice one. U got her name and PM me, maybe I've already sample the goods. Actually I remember while back I met a really nice gal, almost 10 in my book, she was desperate for cash. We hit it off very well, as matter of fact I repeated her and I don't do repeat in OFOP. I mean she was a GF or Wife material type of gal. Too bad she disppeared and I still hope one day I get to repeat the good times. Come think about it, maybe its a good thing she is gone, or I could've fall for her.

Salami
09-21-10, 15:30
WOW, 5000NT for a HJ, agree with Tony Gee, go Ceasar, you can't go wrong with 4200NT for FSSeems to be some misunderstanding here. What I wrote was that the asking price for HJ was 3000NT. I was speculating that their asking price for FS might have been around 5000NT, but I failed to ask that at the time, so I can't really say with any certainty.

Tony Gee
09-22-10, 19:33
Seems to be some misunderstanding here. What I wrote was that the asking price for HJ was 3000NT. I was speculating that their asking price for FS might have been around 5000NT, but I failed to ask that at the time, so I can't really say with any certainty.

A 3000nt HJ is very expensive.

Ragnarok42
09-23-10, 01:45
Ragnarok42

Do you speak the local lingo? Is that why you seem to have so much fun?

Hatguy

If u mean by local lingo Taiwanese, then no I only can speak Mandarin (poorly I might add ;-)

But like I said, treat her with respect and dignity as you would your girlfriend, (not like some walking blow up doll) and you will get lots of extras in return. Also making her cum 2 or 3 times during you session doesnt hurt either by the way....

happy hunting everyone and happy belated Mid-Autumn Day.

Roni44
09-23-10, 04:01
Seems to be some misunderstanding here. What I wrote was that the asking price for HJ was 3000NT. I was speculating that their asking price for FS might have been around 5000NT, but I failed to ask that at the time, so I can't really say with any certainty.

Still, for 3000NT, I would rather go to my regular KTV with saran wrap bj, hj, and all you can drink beer for hour and half.

Roni44
09-23-10, 04:18
On tuesday night, a buddy broke off with his recent love affair, so he was feeling kinda down and asked me if I would like to accompany him to saran wrap KTV. Not with anything plan but meeting up with my new freebie in later on of the evening, sure why not. Got to the place around 9:30 and the business were poping. Luckily we didn't had to wait for room and we were seated immediately. First round of selection was horrible, so we waited about 10 mins for second run. And the second run didn't get better as all of them are just cows or fugly. The manager told me if we didn't choice any of this gals for the third round we'll have to wait for long time and we agreed. So about half hour went by the third round show up, OMG they are just as bad as first and second round. So we decided to leave and seek other entertainment. Made call to OFOP and it was good to go. Got to the waiting spot by 7-11, shortly I was given a key fob to enter the building. Although I've visited many times, it was the first time I was sent to different building. Upon the gal open the door, my eye were drawn to her incredible long sexy leg, her face was about a 7, but slim body and very easy going personality. We sat on the couch for while due to my phone calls and chats with her. Soon after we got in the shower she immediately pay attention to down below, after a good tug and rub, we got onto the bed. I won't go in details but she does offer one of the best CBJ I've encounter in OFOP. I got so lazy of fxxking her decided to have her change out rubber and blew me until I blow. Overall, good gal, good attitude and good BJ.

Sorry Rag and Tony Gee, I forgot to get her name.

Ragnarok42
09-23-10, 05:13
On tuesday night, a buddy broke off with his recent love affair, so he was feeling kinda down and asked me if I would like to accompany him to saran wrap KTV. Not with anything plan but meeting up with my new freebie in later on of the evening, sure why not. Got to the place around 9:30 and the business were poping. Luckily we didn't had to wait for room and we were seated immediately. First round of selection was horrible, so we waited about 10 mins for second run. And the second run didn't get better as all of them are just cows or fugly. The manager told me if we didn't choice any of this gals for the third round we'll have to wait for long time and we agreed. So about half hour went by the third round show up, OMG they are just as bad as first and second round. So we decided to leave and seek other entertainment. Made call to OFOP and it was good to go. Got to the waiting spot by 7-11, shortly I was given a key fob to enter the building. Although I've visited many times, it was the first time I was sent to different building. Upon the gal open the door, my eye were drawn to her incredible long sexy leg, her face was about a 7, but slim body and very easy going personality. We sat on the couch for while due to my phone calls and chats with her. Soon after we got in the shower she immediately pay attention to down below, after a good tug and rub, we got onto the bed. I won't go in details but she does offer one of the best CBJ I've encounter in OFOP. I got so lazy of fxxking her decided to have her change out rubber and blew me until I blow. Overall, good gal, good attitude and good BJ.

Sorry Rag and Tony Gee, I forgot to get her name.

NP Roni,

will hit the place up tonight after work. Maybe her name is Xiao Jie (小潔)? But she told me she only works the morning shift but last time I saw her was at 8.00pm and in fact she was the first girl I saw there and is in my review.
She is sweet, nice personality, perfect body with average and wears glitter eye makeup. So far she has been the best I have had there.

Roni44
09-23-10, 10:32
NP Roni,

will hit the place up tonight after work. Maybe her name is Xiao Jie (小潔)? But she told me she only works the morning shift but last time I saw her was at 8.00pm and in fact she was the first girl I saw there and is in my review.
She is sweet, nice personality, perfect body with average and wears glitter eye makeup. So far she has been the best I have had there.

From now on, I'll make sure I get the name of gals that I think it's worth for y'all to visit. The one I had from Tuesday night she had tatoos on her left chest which kinda turn off to me. I was at 6th floor room 619 not sure if that made any difference. BTW she is from Taichong.

Tony Gee
09-23-10, 10:55
Sorry Rag and Tony Gee, I forgot to get her name.

Lol, was about to PM you for the name.

Ragnarok42
09-24-10, 01:19
From now on, I'll make sure I get the name of gals that I think it's worth for y'all to visit. The one I had from Tuesday night she had tatoos on her left chest which kinda turn off to me. I was at 6th floor room 619 not sure if that made any difference. BTW she is from Taichong.

Damn talk about coincidence, got the same room last night. Was pouring rain when I left so got there a bit late. Girl was a bit chunky but had sweet eyes (no tatoo so its not your girl). Very friendly girl and we chatted very nicely while we both stripped. She was a bit meaty for my taste but had luscious D cups with flat nipples, my fav. Shower was kinda dark and dingy compared to the other building, but at least I didnt have to return the key after I was done.
When we got on the bed she started giving me a very thorough CBJ and spent lots of time paying attention to my chest and privates. To make a long story short we had great albeit quiet sex. Her breasts were definately the best part of her, large firm and soft. Finished doggy style with my hands cupping those "fun sacks". We chatted even more and I was definately digging her personality.
Cost as usual was 3000 with the plus being not having to return the key but place is not as clean and modern as the other building. Girl is definately a repeater and she told me she can not make lots of noise (though I could tell she was dying to) because she is worried the neighbors will notice, may try to get her to come to a motel with me sometime and let her scream and claw to her heart's consent.
And, this if for Roni ;-), her name is Xiao Yun (小雲)Little Cloud.

Ragnarok42
09-27-10, 01:31
Why no posts over the weekend? Are the only posts here by Roni, Tony and I? Come on guys, more sharing by everyone gives us more variety.

Well here goes my most recent hunting story. After clubbing Sat night I decided to give our OFOP a late night test. So at 2 am I called and sure enough they are still open. Same drill as usual, the girl I get is real chatty and has a bit of an attitude. Smallish breasts on a large lower frame, has 2 tatoos, one on the left arm and another on her small back. Unremarkable CBJ followed by equally soso sex. Got real snipy after and actually was a bit of a turn off, only later did I realise she had loved it but was acting pissy to try and hide that fact.

Her name is Q and definately not a repeater, I usually hope the girls are relaxed enough to admit they had a good time. I have been going to this place now a few times and will start to ask for girls I have had a good time with and not go unless they are working.

p.s. walking around Ximending that early in the morning is a real trip. Lots of drunken men screaming and crying in the streets and even saw a girl giving a guy a BJ in an alley next to the 7-11. Definately the seedy underbelly of Taipei.

Roni44
09-27-10, 02:42
Why no posts over the weekend? Are the only posts here by Roni, Tony and I? Come on guys, more sharing by everyone gives us more variety.

Well here goes my most recent hunting story. After clubbing Sat night I decided to give our OFOP a late night test. So at 2 am I called and sure enough they are still open. Same drill as usual, the girl I get is real chatty and has a bit of an attitude. Smallish breasts on a large lower frame, has 2 tatoos, one on the left arm and another on her small back. Unremarkable CBJ followed by equally soso sex. Got real snipy after and actually was a bit of a turn off, only later did I realise she had loved it but was acting pissy to try and hide that fact.

Her name is Q and definately not a repeater, I usually hope the girls are relaxed enough to admit they had a good time. I have been going to this place now a few times and will start to ask for girls I have had a good time with and not go unless they are working.

p.s. walking around Ximending that early in the morning is a real trip. Lots of drunken men screaming and crying in the streets and even saw a girl giving a guy a BJ in an alley next to the 7-11. Definately the seedy underbelly of Taipei.

Rag, sorry to hear bout your experience. Once in a while I meet a gal that didn't do much, but almost always friendly and good attitude. Then again it is weekend and about 2 am, I'm sure the gal already had her share of work or maybe she just had a rude client before you. I heard some stories from the gals and it's quite interesting. And yes walk around Ximending early hours can be fun, you see all sort of activities. I take bus to Ximending every morning and hop on MRT to work. Sometimes I grab breakfast in McDs right by the MRT entrance . I actually saw a working "woman" trying to solicit some grandpa for a quicky. And she must be late 50s or early 60s. It was funny over hearing how she try to persuade grandpa to go with her. Last friday I went to saran wrap ktv and had a great gal. Got her number and even Facebook. But I think I'll leave her off my private life from my FB. I did manage to snap few pictures in the room, but damn iPhone just suck at taking pictures in the dark. I'll try to photoshop it and post on the forum.

Tony Gee
09-27-10, 02:54
even saw a girl giving a guy a BJ in an alley next to the 7-11.

Lol that must be tripping to see at 2am. I had a mellow weekend so unfortunately have nothing to report.

I noticed one of the OFOP buildings, the one that doesn't require a key fab, is a regular residential building. Rode in the elevator with a realtor and a home buyer. Is that why the girl was trying to keep quite so neighbors won't complaint?

Roni44
09-27-10, 03:40
pictures are up gents

Ragnarok42
09-27-10, 07:22
Lol that must be tripping to see at 2am. I had a mellow weekend so unfortunately have nothing to report.

I noticed one of the OFOP buildings, the one that doesn't require a key fab, is a regular residential building. Rode in the elevator with a realtor and a home buyer. Is that why the girl was trying to keep quite so neighbors won't complaint?

Actually i think they both have ppl living there, just the girl was a bit shy. I like the place with no key just because I dont have to walk over to return the key later. Also the guard sometimes gives me the look and makes me a bit uncomfortable.

Roni44
09-27-10, 07:37
Actually i think they both have ppl living there, just the girl was a bit shy. I like the place with no key just because I dont have to walk over to return the key later. Also the guard sometimes gives me the look and makes me a bit uncomfortable.

Dont pay attention to guard, he's part of the operation. And what I've notice between the two buildings, almost everytime after my session, I ran into some random cute girl going in or coming out. But never know if she is a resident in the building or else.

Ragnarok42
09-28-10, 01:32
Dont pay attention to guard, he's part of the operation. And what I've notice between the two buildings, almost everytime after my session, I ran into some random cute girl going in or coming out. But never know if she is a resident in the building or else.

I know the guard is in on it. Though one time i even had a guard tell me I needed to sign this tenant agreement shit. WTF?? I told him I was visiting a friend and he backed off. But I still dont like being observed while waiting for the elevator, especially at 2am.
I noticed the same thing. Dont think they work there since they are much cuter than any girl I have ever met there, probably waiting for they boyfriends or something like that. Maybe I should take a chance and make a pass.

Roni44
09-28-10, 02:33
I know the guard is in on it. Though one time i even had a guard tell me I needed to sign this tenant agreement shit. WTF?? I told him I was visiting a friend and he backed off. But I still dont like being observed while waiting for the elevator, especially at 2am.
I noticed the same thing. Dont think they work there since they are much cuter than any girl I have ever met there, probably waiting for they boyfriends or something like that. Maybe I should take a chance and make a pass.

Well Rag, anybody enter in the building is being monitored until u get in the room. I'm not suprise if there is a hidden camera somewhere in the room. But I have such great relationship with this OFOP I'm not really worry about it. I'm still unsure about few other OFOP due to other factors. If you and Tony Gee feels like hitting up one of other OFOP: this one provides older gal, late 20s to 30s ceasars like quality, same price 3000nt but the service is top notch, let me know. I did refer a member from here once and he was very satisfy. (you can find the review from while back).

Tony Gee
09-28-10, 11:16
If you and Tony Gee feels like hitting up one of other OFOP: this one provides older gal, late 20s to 30s ceasars like quality, same price 3000nt but the service is top notch, let me know. I did refer a member from here once and he was very satisfy. (you can find the review from while back).

As far as I can tell from chatting with the Ximending OFOP girls is that they're mostly mid-20's, I'm down to check out other establishments if the service is top notch, never hurts to have more connections.

Ragnarok42
09-28-10, 11:40
As far as I can tell from chatting with the Ximending OFOP girls is that they're mostly mid-20's, I'm down to check out other establishments if the service is top notch, never hurts to have more connections.

I totally agree with Tony,

many young girls are not good at paying attention to their clients, mostly just want to get it over and get paid. Most of the older women get much more into it and take the initiative. But some of them are not so kind on the eyes. Good thing I am nearsighted so I can take off my glasses and tell her to turn down the lights.

Frika
09-28-10, 11:44
Hi all,

I've been in Taipei for about a year now and I am really starting to miss a good old happy ending massage.coming from Toronto, where you really have your pick of awesome happy ending massage places, (I'll post some links if anyone's interested) I've definitely been missing the scene!

I'm not really interested in FS for my own reasons, but a relaxing massage followed by a happy ending is never a terrible thing

If anyone has any recommendations I'd greatly appreciate it. Still a beginner with Chinese, so that's something to consider as well. I've seen ads for Taipei Royal Massage, but not sure whether it's happy ending or not.

I'll join all of y'all at OFOP someday, but have to start somewhere

Cheers!

Mind Chow
09-28-10, 17:52
Why no posts over the weekend? Are the only posts here by Roni, Tony and I? Come on guys, more sharing by everyone gives us more variety.Hello Rag and Tony and Roni

This thread has gotten a bit dry lately. I've lurked a lot and thought I give a shout to those who contribute.

Returning native for almost a year. Still feel unsafe about mongering blind.
Found a website like ISG in Chinese a few days ago.

http://www.qk999.com/
(for those who can read Chinese, whole new set of abbreviations/terms to learn)
Got a lead for a MP that sound promising, but just started a new job so no money until the 5th. Maybe I will be able to do a report then.

all this Ximending OFOP talk got me curious so I walked around the area a few nights ago. Got called out by two creepy middle aged guys. otherwise not much else. Perhaps I can pay for a membership when I get paid so I can PM people.

Cheers

MC

Roni44
09-29-10, 03:10
Hello Rag and Tony and Roni

This thread has gotten a bit dry lately. I've lurked a lot and thought I give a shout to those who contribute.

Returning native for almost a year. Still feel unsafe about mongering blind.
Found a website like ISG in Chinese a few days ago.

http://www.qk999.com/
(for those who can read Chinese, whole new set of abbreviations/terms to learn)
Got a lead for a MP that sound promising, but just started a new job so no money until the 5th. Maybe I will be able to do a report then.

all this Ximending OFOP talk got me curious so I walked around the area a few nights ago. Got called out by two creepy middle aged guys. otherwise not much else. Perhaps I can pay for a membership when I get paid so I can PM people.

Cheers

MC

With QK999 website or similar, they do offer great information but:

1. You need to invest a lot of time (I mean a lot of time) on the forum to gain good infos.
2. WGs on the forum usually post date, time slots and location, and it fills up very quick.
3. To book sessions, first you need to be approve by "friend or manager". If you not refer by anyone, then you are out of luck.

4. The price can be pretty high. Although the WGs some are pretty hot.

I'm not discouraging anyone invest time on the local forums, b/c I've done it, and it's such pain in the ass. A buddy of mine is a super VIP in similar forum and I was lucky to use his credential to play. And luckily I've got some great experiences and some I don't care to recall. However many of the forums you can find location to Mo Mo Tea shops and massages which provide decent service.

To me, I've done enough searching in 2 years, I think I'll stick with this 3 OFOPs and once a while with saran wrap KTV

I heard by just walking around in Ximenting in certain hours you might get approch, but I've never encountered myself, however, scans are still happening everywhere, just be cautious and don't think with your dick like I do.

BTW, local lingo for mongering 吃魚eat fish, or 喝茶 drink tea.

Lacivius Maximus
09-29-10, 06:01
I've been lurking here and getting some tips. I tried Caesars the other day at around 5PM and I was given #26. She was barely fuckable, real old looking and saggy tits, good thing she turned down the lights.

I've also been going to a Thai style massage place near Changchun/Linsen. They use late 20's to late 30's ladies and they give a real massage. Not the usual back scratch that a fake masseur gives. The price was NT1500 for 2 hours. After my second visit I pointed to the circus tent to try and get some relieve, but she gave me a shocked look and said no. So I thought, well it must be a legit massage place. The massages I was getting, full body with oil (no dick touchy) were certainly worth it. I definitely walked out of there feeling great, albeit with a slight case of blue balls.

On my third visit I was the masseuse's last customer and she was dragging and nodding out. Near the end of the session I started stroking my tent pole and after 5 minutes she must have felt sorry for me and made the universal O sign with here thumb and index finger. I nodded my surprised agreement. I got a very nice oil HJ. So now I am a regular there $1500, for a REAL massage topped off with a nice happy ending.

Maximus

Roni44
09-29-10, 08:29
A friend of my called me up ask me to meet her at Long Shan Temple for lunch arond 12:40. Sure since I got some time to kill. Got there just before 1pm, sun is out and it's hot. We started walking from MRT Exit 1 into this street, I've been Long Shan Temple few times and was at night. Anyhow, it's about few min to walk, and I started to notice bunch of older gals dress kinda sexy. Then to ensure I'm not mistaking I asked my female companion if those are WG. Immediately she told me "you not interested are you?" at least go find younger ones. Anyhow, yes I saw about 20 WGs on the street looking for potential clients. And none of WGs is under 50 i think. I got few smiles but I quickly look other way and almost puked. Too bad I didn't see any doable ones. After lunch as we were walking on the street. I realize it is the infamous Hua Xi Road. Maybe I'll swing by later on in the evening or other day to see if there are younger WGs.

Tony Gee
09-29-10, 10:19
A friend of my called me up ask me to meet her at Long Shan Temple for lunch arond 12:40. Sure since I got some time to kill. Got there just before 1pm, sun is out and it's hot. We started walking from MRT Exit 1 into this street, I've been Long Shan Temple few times and was at night. Anyhow, it's about few min to walk, and I started to notice bunch of older gals dress kinda sexy. Then to ensure I'm not mistaking I asked my female companion if those are WG. Immediately she told me "you not interested are you?" at least go find younger ones. Anyhow, yes I saw about 20 WGs on the street looking for potential clients. And none of WGs is under 50 i think. I got few smiles but I quickly look other way and almost puked. Too bad I didn't see any doable ones. After lunch as we were walking on the street. I realize it is the infamous Hua Xi Road. Maybe I'll swing by later on in the evening or other day to see if there are younger WGs.You have to walk further north from the temple to see some young ones, I've walked up KanDing Road to the intersection of KanDing & GuiLing, where they have pedestrian bridges at the cross road, on the north west corner of the intersection you can usually find SW in their 20s to 30s, most look Chinese, and of course there are the grandmas around as well. I believe the cost is around 1000 to 1500 for a 15min quickie in the motel few steps away.

Hatguy
09-30-10, 05:10
I've been lurking here and getting some tips. I tried Caesars the other day at around 5PM and I was given #26. She was barely fuckable, real old looking and saggy tits, good thing she turned down the lights.

I've also been going to a Thai style massage place near Changchun/Linsen. They use late 20's to late 30's ladies and they give a real massage. Not the usual back scratch that a fake masseur gives. The price was NT1500 for 2 hours. After my second visit I pointed to the circus tent to try and get some relieve, but she gave me a shocked look and said no. So I thought, well it must be a legit massage place. The massages I was getting, full body with oil (no dick touchy) were certainly worth it. I definitely walked out of there feeling great, albeit with a slight case of blue balls.

On my third visit I was the masseuse's last customer and she was dragging and nodding out. Near the end of the session I started stroking my tent pole and after 5 minutes she must have felt sorry for me and made the universal O sign with here thumb and index finger. I nodded my surprised agreement. I got a very nice oil HJ. So now I am a regular there $1500, for a REAL massage topped off with a nice happy ending.

MaximusI would like to get a normal massage. Can you please put the details up for this one.

Thanks,

Hatguy

Tony Gee
09-30-10, 19:00
Decided to follow some leads and contacted several fishes (魚 as they call the amateur indies locally) from a list I have, one picked up, sounded nice over the phone, set up a time and off I went to her location on LinShen North Road. It was pouring hard so I had a hard time hailing a cab, eventually got one and made it through the traffic and arrived at her place.

Now here comes the dilemma in calling these indies. To me it's kind of exciting to try out a fish in a while because once in a while you'd find a hidden gem, plus they're usually on the cheaper side than a managed girl (except OFOP). The problem is, you have no idea what they look like other than the description that came along from where you got the intel, in this case, some fellow monger stated "looks good", boy was he wrong. Door opened and I was greeted by a overweight woman in her 40s, I wanted to turn around and walk away but I was the one that initiated the contact, and unlike OFOP I can't just call and request another girl. So I decided to bite the bullet and entered the apartment.

Took a shower, some chit chat, oil massage followed by body on body massage. Had a hard time waking junior up, took all of my imagination picturing my recent good encounters to finish the deed. I have acquired a taste for fine mature women, but in this case it was out of my range. Total damage 2k, not bad considering the weather outside and I just wanted a release.

Will be sticking to OFOP and some of my regulars for a while until I have the itch to try out new fishes.

Roni44
10-01-10, 03:23
Decided to follow some leads and contacted several fishes (魚 as they call the amateur indies locally) from a list I have, one picked up, sounded nice over the phone, set up a time and off I went to her location on LinShen North Road. It was pouring hard so I had a hard time hailing a cab, eventually got one and made it through the traffic and arrived at her place.

Now here comes the dilemma in calling these indies. To me it's kind of exciting to try out a fish in a while because once in a while you'd find a hidden gem, plus they're usually on the cheaper side than a managed girl (except OFOP). The problem is, you have no idea what they look like other than the description that came along from where you got the intel, in this case, some fellow monger stated "looks good", boy was he wrong. Door opened and I was greeted by a overweight woman in her 40s, I wanted to turn around and walk away but I was the one that initiated the contact, and unlike OFOP I can't just call and request another girl. So I decided to bite the bullet and entered the apartment.

Took a shower, some chit chat, oil massage followed by body on body massage. Had a hard time waking junior up, took all of my imagination picturing my recent good encounters to finish the deed. I have acquired a taste for fine mature women, but in this case it was out of my range. Total damage 2k, not bad considering the weather outside and I just wanted a release.

Will be sticking to OFOP and some of my regulars for a while until I have the itch to try out new fishes.

Ha, I have similar experience my very first monger in Taiwan, except she is in her early 20s and didn't do jack. I still remember when I was new to the forum and Rag told me to "RTFF and not just looking for hand out". How time has fly and things have changed.

As for LongShan Temple WGs, I don't know if I ever want to experience it myself. But hey if some of you got some times, maybe we all should take a trip to the area and scope things out. Let me know when u want to try the OFOP with older gal. The location is in north of LinShen rd, and pls remembe I only visited these place few times, the service was good but honestly, I still prefer younger gals.

Abc Boy
10-01-10, 05:29
Hello Taiwan mongers:

Have a business trip in Taipei in mid-October and that also means KTV actions. As usually anyone willing to part 20K for a nice young hot model girls for a night of fun and excitement PM me.

Ragnarok42
10-01-10, 06:03
I still remember when I was new to the forum and Rag told me to "RTFF and not just looking for hand out". How time has fly and things have changed.


Man you have not only RTFF, you have become one of its most important contibutors. Guys like us now look to you for advice and recommendations, good going my friend. Been busy with a few repeats and freebies recently so havent been able to walk around but may try to see how Ximen is at night.

See if I can spot that couple from last time in another alley, haha

Cheers

Roni44
10-01-10, 06:47
Hello Taiwan mongers:

Have a business trip in Taipei in mid-October and that also means KTV actions. As usually anyone willing to part 20K for a nice young hot model girls for a night of fun and excitement PM me.

Abc Boy, welcome back, love to join u, but I'm leaving to China during your visit. Perhaps I'll catch u next time.

Roni44

Chowmaidong
10-01-10, 16:21
Hi all,

I've been in Taipei for about a year now and I am really starting to miss a good old happy ending massage.coming from Toronto, where you really have your pick of awesome happy ending massage places, (I'll post some links if anyone's interested) I've definitely been missing the scene!

I'm not really interested in FS for my own reasons, but a relaxing massage followed by a happy ending is never a terrible thing

If anyone has any recommendations I'd greatly appreciate it. Still a beginner with Chinese, so that's something to consider as well. I've seen ads for Taipei Royal Massage, but not sure whether it's happy ending or not.

I'll join all of y'all at OFOP someday, but have to start somewhere

Cheers!Don't worry Frika. I'm in the same boat. Having been in Taiwan for more than a year coming from SF Bay Area, I too missed the easy FS hookup offered there.

But don't worry. As time goes by, one can only hope that the senior members here will give us a pass to their paradise.

Whitsit
10-01-10, 19:23
She was very shy initially about telling me where she had disappeared to but when she stripped it was pretty apparent. She had gotten a boob job! Turned her from a large A to a small C. They felt pretty natural and soft and I decided to take them out for a test drive.Rag,

Hey buddy, it's been like 6 months, and I'm coming back to Taipei for a week next week. I didn't get to try OFOP last time even though Roni hooked me up, maybe I'll find more time this trip. And this gal that just returned sounds just right up my alley (you know how I like them see cups).

Check your email and PM. I still owe you dinner and need to get the DL on what's going on.

Whit

Ragnarok42
10-02-10, 05:13
Don't worry Frika. I'm in the same boat. Having been in Taiwan for more than a year coming from SF Bay Area, I too missed the easy FS hookup offered there.

But don't worry. As time goes by, one can only hope that the senior members here will give us a pass to their paradise.

The sum of all our experiences and encounters are written within the pages of this forum. RTFF forum and you can get an idea of what is offered in Taipei.

If you are talking about freebies then you are on your own, but from what I can tell seems our brothers do alright in that area.

Chowmaidong
10-02-10, 12:37
The sum of all our experiences and encounters are written within the pages of this forum. RTFF forum and you can get an idea of what is offered in Taipei.

If you are talking about freebies then you are on your own, but from what I can tell seems our brothers do alright in that area.Actually, I was referring to OPOF. But then I don't expect anything from it since I don't have PM service anyway.

I haven't tried Caesar but I'm definitely gonna give it a shot. It's only a matter of time.

Tony Gee
10-02-10, 19:57
Walked by Breeze center tonight on Fuxing, not too far from the mall I noticed two girls in their twenties sitting on top of parked mopeds, facing a small dark fire escape alley between two buildings, my monger sense tells me they are SWs, they looked out of place and weren't dressed as fashionable as the girls in the area.

It's the first time I noticed this, will try to investigate when I have a chance. It's a little tricky as there are heavy traffic on the sidewalk by Breeze.

Whitsit
10-05-10, 10:21
Fellas,

I had the pleasure of visiting OFOP this afternoon and had a pretty satisfying workout. I completely agree with Ragnorak, Roni44 and Tony Gee's great reviews of OFOP. It is really a hard-to-beat value at 3k/hr. The gal had the best attitude outside of the 10k/hr gal that I partied with previously. Definitely will repeat as often as time and money permits. 2 thumbs up, and much thanks to Ragnorak and Roni44 for introducing me to OFOP.

Whit

Roni44
10-06-10, 02:48
Ok, with recent positive reviews of OFOP by just about everyone I've refered. I'm glad I was able to contribute the fun. However, it has been crazy with my PM and everyone asking for the connection. Please read my rules again:

1. You have to be Senior member with active PM.

2. You have to speak fluent Chinese.

3. If I don't get back to you, sorry nothing personal.

Again, do not ask me silly questions, and I'll repeat one last time, I do not have any relationship to OFOP, only benefit I do get is 500NT discount per referal.

To Rag, Tony Gee, last night I went to a different OFOP, holy shit, I got a almost 10 girl with 8 service including CIM. Too bad it's her last week and I tried so hard to reschedule with her but no chance. I'll keep on trying however but I'm still building relationship with this OFOP so not sure if I'm able to get her before it's too late. Best of all, this OFOP is a bit cheaper 2800NT and if I go with a friend will be 2700NT.

Tony Gee
10-06-10, 04:41
To Rag, Tony Gee, last night I went to a different OFOP, holy shit, I got a almost 10 girl with 8 service including CIM. Too bad it's her last week and I tried so hard to reschedule with her but no chance. I'll keep on trying however but I'm still building relationship with this OFOP so not sure if I'm able to get her before it's too late. Best of all, this OFOP is a bit cheaper 2800NT and if I go with a friend will be 2700NT.

A 10 girl at lower price! Gotta save up to recon the new OFOP!

Whitsit
10-06-10, 05:26
To Rag, Tony Gee, last night I went to a different OFOP, holy shit, I got a almost 10 girl with 8 service including CIM. Too bad it's her last week and I tried so hard to reschedule with her but no chance. I'll keep on trying however but I'm still building relationship with this OFOP so not sure if I'm able to get her before it's too late. Best of all, this OFOP is a bit cheaper 2800NT and if I go with a friend will be 2700NT.Nice pull! Man, I wish I could be as fortunate as you are with this incredible find...

Stoelker
10-06-10, 07:10
Hi,

I'm just moved to Taiwan / Taipei.

I read through here tried already Ceasars, which is nice. Thanks for all the advice.

But what / where is OFOP?

Thanks for your help

Tony Gee
10-06-10, 17:47
But what / where is OFOP?

It's a term originated in Hong Kong, googling "one floor one phoenix" will give you an idea of the operation.

Hatguy
10-07-10, 04:43
I'm jealous of you guys all going there! Oh well. Ive been talking to a craigslist chick who says 4500 for one hour. 7000 for 2. I guess I will have to make do with that.

Diabolic08
10-07-10, 06:17
It's a term originated in Hong Kong, googling "one floor one phoenix" will give you an idea of the operation.Hi guys,

I am in Taipei on 12th and 13th of Oct can you hook me up at one of these OFOP?

I have sent aPM to ronni also.

Thanks in advance

Tony Gee
10-07-10, 09:38
Had some food at the Longshang Temple/Monga night market the other night, noticed a lot of scantily dressed women in the side streets, some are nice looking mature ones, and some are in their twenties, several really caught my attention (wasn't alone at the time so couldn't play). I believe most of them work for mo-mo tea shops in the area, not sure if they offer FS.

Might take a stoll tonight in the shady areas between Longshang temple station and Ximending station to see what they have to offer.

Roni44
10-07-10, 10:10
Had some food at the Longshang Temple/Monga night market the other night, noticed a lot of scantily dressed women in the side streets, some are nice looking mature ones, and some are in their twenties, several really caught my attention (wasn't alone at the time so couldn't play). I believe most of them work for mo-mo tea shops in the area, not sure if they offer FS.

Might take a stoll tonight in the shady areas between Longshang temple station and Ximending station to see what they have to offer.


Good luck bud, hope u get to find someone worthy, I know whitsit is looking for something to do, you might want to ask him to join you. I got a family dinner need to attend, not sure when I can be free, otherwise I would've tag along for the adventure.

Tony Gee
10-07-10, 16:53
I took an early stoll around LongShang Temple station (around 6:30pm), since I've walked around the area and did my research before, I knew where the spots are. Went around the block twice, saw some in their twenties that caught my eye, but up close you can see they had on heavy make up. On my 2nd loop around I walked in one of the hidden alleys, and spotted a tall (165cm) slim younger SW, 1300NT for 15min and off we went in the building. Shower before & after, shaved & tight, good deal for 1300NT (I had appointment after, didn't have an hour to spend).

If you're looking for a quick release LongShang still have some decent talents, otherwise OFOP in Ximending is the better choice.

Ragnarok42
10-08-10, 01:13
I took an early stoll around LongShang Temple station (around 6:30pm), since I've walked around the area and did my research before, I knew where the spots are. Went around the block twice, saw some in their twenties that caught my eye, but up close you can see they had on heavy make up. On my 2nd loop around I walked in one of the hidden alleys, and spotted a tall (165cm) slim younger SW, 1300NT for 15min and off we went in the building. Shower before & after, shaved & tight, good deal for 1300NT (I had appointment after, didn't have an hour to spend).

If you're looking for a quick release LongShang still have some decent talents, otherwise OFOP in Ximending is the better choice.

Sounds like SC setup. So did they use and egg timer? How was the place? Has anyone found something like SC in Longshan where you go in first and choose from a line up? I actually kinda miss the shacks where you have anywhere from 5 to 20 hotties to choose from.

Had a nice drink last night with Whit and Roni, great groups of guys and we talked about doing some hunting next time together. We should all get together sometime with Roni, Whit and see if ABC can take us to one of his high end KTVs.

Roni44
10-08-10, 02:18
Sounds like SC setup. So did they use and egg timer? How was the place? Has anyone found something like SC in Longshan where you go in first and choose from a line up? I actually kinda miss the shacks where you have anywhere from 5 to 20 hotties to choose from.

Had a nice drink last night with Whit and Roni, great groups of guys and we talked about doing some hunting next time together. We should all get together sometime with Roni, Whit and see if ABC can take us to one of his high end KTVs.

I've got to try Long Shan Temple thingy one of these day just to experience it. And yes, it was great meeting Whit and Rag last night, just guys talk in general bout you know what. Whit, thanks for the drink and if you up for it, let's make saran wrap ktv run next time and whoever wants to join us. Rag, if I ever need a outcall service, for sure I'll trouble you for the connection.

Tony Gee
10-08-10, 03:08
Sounds like SC setup. So did they use and egg timer? How was the place? Has anyone found something like SC in Longshan where you go in first and choose from a line up? I actually kinda miss the shacks where you have anywhere from 5 to 20 hotties to choose from.

No egg timer, the place is usually a cheap motel room (really cheap) or a room in a apartment building. All the girls are on display on the street or in the alleys, you get what you see.

It's very exciting though, with people walking by on the side walk and cars on the streets, everyone knows what goes on in the area, even saw neighborhood kids playing in the same alleys.

Exile
10-08-10, 04:21
I haven't been posting here much because I have been exploring the freebie market for the past year or so. Although it isn't the kind of stuff that people here want to hear as I am not sure it counts as mongering, freebies in Taiwan are slightly harder than finding a cold drink in a 7-11. However, recently I have run into a few girls who are too clingy or a bit unbalanced and, being that it is a small island, have decided not to pursue this kind of thing with as much frequency in the future.

OFOP sounds promising. I am a senior member, have a good idea of what is happening and speak Chinese but I wouldn't say that it is entirely fluent so if anybody wants to invite me to tag along for my initial time out, I would appreciate it.

Rag-nothing in LS like SC. As Tony said, the girls are on the street and although there are pimps, they appear to let the girls deal directly with the customers.

Tony - most of the girls near the night market work in Momo tea shops though some of the best ones are more touts than anything else. It sounds like you found what you were looking for but the best SW are in a different area than the tea shops. If you are questions, send me a PM.

Roni44
10-08-10, 05:12
I haven't been posting here much because I have been exploring the freebie market for the past year or so. Although it isn't the kind of stuff that people here want to hear as I am not sure it counts as mongering, freebies in Taiwan are slightly harder than finding a cold drink in a 7-11. However, recently I have run into a few girls who are too clingy or a bit unbalanced and, being that it is a small island, have decided not to pursue this kind of thing with as much frequency in the future.

OFOP sounds promising. I am a senior member, have a good idea of what is happening and speak Chinese but I wouldn't say that it is entirely fluent so if anybody wants to invite me to tag along for my initial time out, I would appreciate it.

Rag-nothing in LS like SC. As Tony said, the girls are on the street and although there are pimps, they appear to let the girls deal directly with the customers.

Tony - most of the girls near the night market work in Momo tea shops though some of the best ones are more touts than anything else. It sounds like you found what you were looking for but the best SW are in a different area than the tea shops. If you are questions, send me a PM.

Exile: if ya want to try OFOP, shoot me a PM including your mobile and last name in Chinese. And let me know what time you would like to go.

If anyone of you want to go hunting in LS, pls let me know, I don't mind tag along just for fun, and if I decide it's not my thing, OFOP just one MRT station away.

Whitsit
10-08-10, 08:57
I haven't been posting here much because I have been exploring the freebie market for the past year or so. Although it isn't the kind of stuff that people here want to hear as I am not sure it counts as mongering, freebies in Taiwan are slightly harder than finding a cold drink in a 7-11. However, recently I have run into a few girls who are too clingy or a bit unbalanced and, being that it is a small island, have decided not to pursue this kind of thing with as much frequency in the future.

OFOP sounds promising. I am a senior member, have a good idea of what is happening and speak Chinese but I wouldn't say that it is entirely fluent so if anybody wants to invite me to tag along for my initial time out, I would appreciate it.
I think Rag has some good stories for you about things that went wrong with his freebies. As I mentioned to him and Roni44, I'm so envious of you guys since I come back only once or twice a year for a week and I just don't have the time nor the game to develop freebies. If anyone can work on be behalf, I'd be eternally grateful

As for OFOP, I speak Chinese, but definitely wouldn't say I'm fluent at all. I ask them all them all the time "what does that mean. " So If I can figure out their 2 call and funny key entry system, I'm sure you'd do just fine. Now that I've been there once in the afternoon (3pm) and once at night (11pm), the afternoon experience was much less rushed, and gal was more willing to just take it slow. When I came down after the 11pm run, there was a group of what looks like high school boys waiting in the lobby to go up. I can only shake my head.

Wolfy187
10-08-10, 09:45
Hey everyone. I'm heading out to a KTV tonight. If anyone wants to come along send me a PM. (senior members only or with a reference from Rag)

W.

Chowmaidong
10-08-10, 14:11
Ok, I finally got the time to visit Caesar. This report is probably not that surprising to most who RTFF but then, what the hell, I'll contribute anyway and hope the details won't be too much for this forum and aid the LE. If so, my apology.

Since I forgot to RecordTFF for Caesar info, I went in blindly thinking that I had to pay first. Nope, got a number first and went straight to the locker room. Had to take the shoes off first though for the shoeshine person. Went to the sauna and pool room and saw a bunch of people but no selections. Stupid me, went back and asked the person tending to the locker room that I had to wait in the relax room. Ok, so I washed myself up first in the pool room where there are shower stalls and went to the relax room afterward with a robe and pants.

After a few minutes, a middle aged woman approached me and asked the million dollar question. Since I remembered there were some numbers to throw off, I told her that I was here 4 years ago and had seen #18. She then said that she's no longer working and asked me what kinda girl I like. Well, I told her that I want a young one. She then proceeded to direct me to a private massage room upstairs.

As I waited on the massage bed, a 40ish lady walked in and I asked for another one (I didn't get her number). Then, #25 showed up and we proceeded with the deed. I was surprised to receive the oily RIM treatment from her after a nice back massage. A long CBJ and mish and I was done. Walk out of the massage room, back to the pool room and re-showered myself. Check out of the locker and the total damage was the old 4300NT. I could have stayed longer and enjoy the sauna but I was pressed for time.

Face 6 (high 30ish)
Body 6.5 (got a tummy and I'd say probably a 34B)
Service 7 (the oily RIM got a notch up)
Overall 7

I'd probably visit again to see if I can get someone better than 25. Her CBJ didn't get me hard enough.

Hatguy
10-09-10, 00:53
Thanks for the report on Caesars. Im gonna be in town in a coupla weekends. Definitely gonna head there for a bit of R and R.

I know I should RTFF and I have but can anyone recommend a cheap place to stay near Caesars or something? Does Taiwan have chain hotels like Best Western or something? Thanks. Hatguy

Exile
10-09-10, 11:28
Exile: if ya want to try OFOP, shoot me a PM including your mobile and last name in Chinese. And let me know what time you would like to go.

If anyone of you want to go hunting in LS, pls let me know, I don't mind tag along just for fun, and if I decide it's not my thing, OFOP just one MRT station away.

I am swamped at the moment but will take you up on this in the near future. Perhaps we could combine LS and OFOP - I have never hunted in a pack before.

Ragnarok42
10-10-10, 09:59
Went out to our favorite OFOP despite having had a nice time with my freebie yesteday (sorry Whit ;-). None of my "regular" girls were there and I was given a really elegant looking girl who was at least 170 tall. Long story short, fairly good service but she had was a real clean freak. I mean she literally wiped all the lub off the condom before starting to give me a CBJ. Actually got kinda funny thinking how paranoid she was about being so clean but having P4P was quite a nice dicotomy. Name is "Sun", literally TaiYang and the mama tells me her hours are pretty erratic. But I made a point for her to tell me when she comes in and I will definately ask for her again.

Walking out I decided to give the Kanding Road area a look since I was fairly close. Well I was NOT. Walked for about 15 min to the intersection with the pedestrian bridge and started to look around. Almost immediately I spot some ladies (instant WG in my mongering radar) sitting on mopeds next to a motel. I approach a rather pretty MILF and she tells me 1500. She then tells me to take the elevator to the 11th floor. I think she was just a tout and I will probably get some ancient granny waiting for me when I get up.

Arriving at the 11th floor there is a desk with an old man sitting behind and several rooms. A cleaning woman walks out of one and tells me to go in. Room is spartan but fairly clean, nice and bright. Imagine my surpise when the pretty MILF comes in and asks me to pay first. I hand her the money and take a quick shower. The lady took a shower and joined me in bed.

CBJ and nothing too great, considering I had just done a girl 20 min ago I am surprised anything came out at all. But she was really pretty and I actually thought the place was pretty nice compared to the stank shacks in SC. When we finished showering her timer went off (I guess they do use them), she told me they give the customer 20 min, she then left but I was not rushed to get dressed up and leave. Lots of girls going in and out of the rooms when I leave and I see about 4 other women waiting there when I leave. Will be interested to see what the talent is like at other times of day. Even though SC has some nasty places, the girls are definately younger.

Tony Gee
10-10-10, 11:37
Walking out I decided to give the Kanding Road area a look since I was fairly close. Well I was NOT. Walked for about 15 min to the intersection with the pedestrian bridge and started to look around. Almost immediately I spot some ladies (instant WG in my mongering radar) sitting on mopeds next to a motel. I approach a rather pretty MILF and she tells me 1500. She then tells me to take the elevator to the 11th floor. I think she was just a tout and I will probably get some ancient granny waiting for me when I get up.

Arriving at the 11th floor there is a desk with an old man sitting behind and several rooms. A cleaning woman walks out of one and tells me to go in. Room is spartan but fairly clean, nice and bright. Imagine my surpise when the pretty MILF comes in and asks me to pay first. I hand her the money and take a quick shower. The lady took a shower and joined me in bed.

CBJ and nothing too great, considering I had just done a girl 20 min ago I am surprised anything came out at all. But she was really pretty and I actually thought the place was pretty nice compared to the stank shacks in SC. When we finished showering her timer went off (I guess they do use them), she told me they give the customer 20 min, she then left but I was not rushed to get dressed up and leave. Lots of girls going in and out of the rooms when I leave and I see about 4 other women waiting there when I leave. Will be interested to see what the talent is like at other times of day. Even though SC has some nasty places, the girls are definately younger.

I now which pretty milf you're talking about, had a session with her a while back. I asked if she's mixed but she said no, pretty face and when dressed up in those dimmed lights it's hard to tell her age. The only thing about that hotel is that I saw it on the news once when the LE did a sting.

I asked the tall girl from the other night if the uniformed LE I saw on the streets will be any problem, she said they don't worry about the uniformed ones, it's the plain clothe ones that will cause trouble especially with the election coming up. So be careful out there brothers.

Ragnarok42
10-11-10, 06:00
I now which pretty milf you're talking about, had a session with her a while back. I asked if she's mixed but she said no, pretty face and when dressed up in those dimmed lights it's hard to tell her age. The only thing about that hotel is that I saw it on the news once when the LE did a sting.

I asked the tall girl from the other night if the uniformed LE I saw on the streets will be any problem, she said they don't worry about the uniformed ones, it's the plain clothe ones that will cause trouble especially with the election coming up. So be careful out there brothers.

point well taken. Keep your guard up brothers, not worth the hassle of being taken into the station.

She really is very pretty, I guess she is late 30s early 40s. I took off my glasses and she looked really hot squirming under me all out of focus. Like watching a porn channed that has been blocked my your parents, LOL.

Chowmaidong
10-12-10, 05:55
Thanks for the report on Caesars. Im gonna be in town in a coupla weekends. Definitely gonna head there for a bit of R and R.

I know I should RTFF and I have but can anyone recommend a cheap place to stay near Caesars or something? Does Taiwan have chain hotels like Best Western or something? Thanks. HatguyHatguy,

There should be a few local hotels there that may offer nightly stay for less than 2k NT and should be in the 3-stars condition or better. You just have to walk around Nanjing E Rd and Fuxing N Rd to find one.

Do report back after you TOFTT. Good luck.