Chiang Mai

[Pirate1]

Just got back from CM and nothing out of ordinary. No military coup came here. Everything was open.

I like the surroundings here and everything seems slower than the rest of Thailand.
I have heard the CM girls were more beautiful here than anywhere else in Thai but I didnt see any real beauties when i went there. Some of the non P4P women were not bad but the beer bars and night club P4P girls were not that hot during the 2 days I was there.

Also some of these non lookers were asking for Bkk prices. So I have nothing new to report as I decline their prices and went to the MP instead.

[Relax Man]

Wish to ask bro here, if Empress Hotel is girl's friendly(like to try this hotel). The other hotels that i know, is girl friendly are Duantawan, Pornping, royal lanna and Prince.

[Vstarsky]

Hi,

Pardon my ignorance. First time in this Forum and first time to CM. Me & my buddies are planning to have a major party in CM.

I know CM is not like BKK but am wondering if CM have places which provides such group activites (i.e. threesomes with bi-sexual ladies ala Eden Club)? So far, there has not been any recent FR on this subject.

Am not an active player as I do not travel frequently but I do post FR when the opportunity arises (not in this forum though, only discovered this forum recently).

Thanks for your time and suggestions.

[Greed Is Good]

Hi,

Pardon my ignorance. First time in this Forum and first time to CM. Me & my buddies are planning to have a major party in CM.

I know CM is not like BKK but am wondering if CM have places which provides such group activites (i.e. threesomes with bi-sexual ladies ala Eden Club)? So far, there has not been any recent FR on this subject.

Am not an active player as I do not travel frequently but I do post FR when the opportunity arises (not in this forum though, only discovered this forum recently).

Thanks for your time and suggestions.Dear V.,

You might ask arounf the beer bars around the moat but in 10 years I have never had anything to match Eden in CM. In fact tough to match that anywhere I have been in my travels in 30 years :-)

[Phantomtiger2]

Hi,

Pardon my ignorance. First time in this Forum and first time to CM. Me & my buddies are planning to have a major party in CM.

I know CM is not like BKK but am wondering if CM have places which provides such group activites (i.e. threesomes with bi-sexual ladies ala Eden Club)? So far, there has not been any recent FR on this subject.

Am not an active player as I do not travel frequently but I do post FR when the opportunity arises (not in this forum though, only discovered this forum recently).

Thanks for your time and suggestions.


CM is very, very tame compare to BKK and Pattaya for the sex scene. Its now more famous for its sightseeing than for P4P.
Years ago that was not true as CM was a wilder untamed sex location. But Gov't clean up have done away with that.
So if you are in LOS for the action then CM is not the place to go--instead head straight for either Bkk or Pattaya.
Note: most of the better sex workers that grew up in CM usually relocated to BKK for their trade.
A very good % of workers in the BKK MPs are from CM.

PT

[Phantomtiger2]

Latest news from CM.
Never happened before so this is the 1st time in the history of CM. Normally they may get some tremors form more distant places but never before centered in CM.
So 1st Earthquake to hit CM yesterday. Measured about 5.1 on the Ric. scale.
Some houses and the University suffered cracks but luckily no serious injuries. Just reports of minor ones from people running/falling etc. trying to get out of buildings etc.

Also, over 10 after shocks felt after the quake.

PT

[Member #2041]

Latest news from CM.
Never happened before so this is the 1st time in the history of CM. Normally they may get some tremors form more distant places but never before centered in CM.
So 1st Earthquake to hit CM yesterday. Measured about 5.1 on the Ric. scale.
Some houses and the University suffered cracks but luckily no serious injuries. Just reports of minor ones from people running/falling etc. trying to get out of buildings etc.

Also, over 10 after shocks felt after the quake.

PT

They got lucky - 5.5 Richter is about the level where damage starts to be significant and there can be some real loss of life from structural failures, in places where the building codes are not upgraded to deal with seismic events.

[Phantomtiger2]

Meteorological Department issue warnings yesterday,


Director of the department's Chiang Mai office Suparerk Tansrirattanawong said 69 aftershocks had been recorded.


"It has sent a signal that more earthquakes may hit Mae Rim and San Sai districts," Suparerk said.


Yesterday's earthquake measured 5.1 on the Richter scale and occurred just after midnight. Its epicentre was in Mae Rim district. The earthquake was about 33 kilometres deep.


"It's the first time an earthquake has occurred so close to Chiang Mai city," Suparerk said.


An official at the Meteorological Department said the earthquake was caused by the Mae Tha Fault, which was about 30 kilometres away. Stretching about 55 kilometres in length, this fault has generated 23 quakes during the past 28 years. Prior to yesterday, the most recent quake was in March.


The impact from yesterday's quake was felt by many. Mae Jo University students evacuated dormitories and engineers spent yesterday checking buildings for structural damage.


Staff at the Lotus Hotel Pang Suan Kaew said the earthquake panicked guests for a short time. Other hotels reported calm.


Mineral Resources Department director-general Apichai Chawacharoenphan warned residents not to get overly alarmed. "Panic often leads to injuries during an evacuation," he said.


The earthquake was one of the strongest recorded in Chiang Mai.

Apichai said while yesterday's earthquake was not alarming, the number of aftershocks was "unusually high".


"Department officials will look into this and work with other authorities," he said.


Information will be passed to the Public Works and Royal Irrigation Departments.


Regulations in Chiang Mai, Chiang Rai, Phayao, Lamphun, Lampang, Mae Hong Son, Tak, Nan, Phrae and Kanchanaburi require buildings to be able to withstand earthquakes.


"The Public Works Department is seeking to enforce similar rules in Bangkok and its four adjacent provinces," Apichai said.


National Disaster Warning Centre chief Smith Dharmmasaroj said there were nine active fault lines in Thailand and earthquakes along some could affect Bangkok



PT

[Phantomtiger2]

Looks like CM not the only place to have problems with nature. Chiang Rai (north of CM) declared a disaster zone today in need of immediate relief efforts for about 1 million people.
Temperatures plunge to record lows. Single digits in the mountains and only about 10 degrees C for highs in CR.
Calls for blankets and warm clothes are needed as fear of plunging temps endangering many lives in this area.

PT

[Retired Army]

Yeah, it has been cold up in C.M. and expecially C.R. I have been up here looking for a retirement place. No bargains to be found anywhere. It has gotten damn expensive in Thailand.

[Phantomtiger2]

Kongkaew Rampan is the second victim of this month's cold snap after the death of another worker two weeks ago.

The first victim was a security guard who died December 15 while on duty outside a building. Shinawatra Srihome, 47, was found dead at his post at a computer store in the provincial seat.

Police attributed his death to night-long winds combined with ultra low temperatures, triggering an attack of asthma, his long-term illness. The provincial office of disaster prevention and mitigation in Chiang Mai said that the lowered, and falling, temperature prompted the province to declare 200 districts as disaster zones affected by the cold weather.

The average temperature in the province was recorded below 10 degrees Celsius.

More than 400,000 residents in 736 villages were affected by the cold wave.

The meteorological department said on Wednesday that a cold front from China extended to upper Thailand and the temperature is expected to drop further. (TNA)-E004



----So if you plan to visit here, bring a winter coat and also a warm blanket for your hotel stay as some hotels may not be prepared for this cold spell.


PT

[Retired Army]

----So if you plan to visit here, bring a winter coat and also a warm blanket for your hotel stay as some hotels may not be prepared for this cold spell.


PT

It has warmed up quite nicely in Chiang Mai. I actually used the fan in my room last night. For Farangs a light jacket is all you need. Being used to BKK, like a fool, I came with only short sleeve shirts. Had to find something warmer and in my size (XXL) in Thailand is very hard to do. Finally found a sweat shirt for 199 THB that worked perfectly. Chiang Rai was a little colder and we needed an extra blanket on the bed at night, but the days were pleasant. Now for Thai's bring a winter down jacket suitable for Artic explorers and three or four electric blankets. People up here are dressed like the next ice age is approaching.

[Old Thai Hand]

Now for Thai's bring a winter down jacket suitable for Artic explorers and three or four electric blankets. People up here are dressed like the next ice age is approaching.

I just came back from 5 days in CM and found it "fresh", but nothing more. Of course being Canadian, I consider anything above 20 celsius as "steamy".

The Thais walking around like Eskimos with parkas, mitts, toques and scarves had me laughing, especially when seen in the vicinity of 7 foot tall, sun-burned Scandinavians in singlets, shorts and sandals. I'm not sure which were more freakish.

In any event, it's not the place to be this weekend. It was so crowded, you couldn't move. The Thais travel in packs, like lemmings. And, the Euro-Farang there seem so large, that one equals an entire Thai family. They expect 18,000 Thais per day on Doi Inthanon to see the frost on the flowers. I managed to talk my GF out of that trip. The idea of spending a day going up what amounts to a big hill to look at some frost seems as exciting as having a root canal.

I did manage a small victory in the 2-tiered pricing battle when I managed to get in to the CM Zoo as a Thai because of my work permit stamp in my passport. I plan to try it next at the Grand Palace when I take my visiting niece there next week. I would suggest to anyone who is legit here, to try this elsewhere, like national parks and see if you have any luck.

[M P Lurker]

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They expect 18,000 Thais per day on Doi Inthanon to see the frost on the flowers. I managed to talk my GF out of that trip. The idea of spending a day going up what amounts to a big hill to look at some frost seems as exciting as having a root canal.
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For those who do normal holiday/touristy things,
CM has many things to 'pay thiao' including caves, hot geysers, orchid farms, handicrafts, ruined temples, elephant treks, etc.
I had a good time going to Doi Inthanon.
Waterfall, tropical rain forest, beautiful gardens, historic magnificent monument, etc. The GF at the time (now ex-GF) enjoyed the day.

[Dinghy]

Gee - if they were so impressed by "frost" they should see some of this DAMNED SNOW! Been so cold I'm up to 5 layers and feel like the Pillsbury doughboy

[Retired Army]

I did manage a small victory in the 2-tiered pricing battle when I managed to get in to the CM Zoo as a Thai because of my work permit stamp in my passport. I plan to try it next at the Grand Palace when I take my visiting niece there next week. I would suggest to anyone who is legit here, to try this elsewhere, like national parks and see if you have any luck.

I use my Thai driver's license to avoid the two tier pricing. Up North they have these damn private attractions like the Buddha Museum and the Hall of Opium which charge Farang's 200 THB and Thai's 100. I just refuse to gve them my business. Screw em!

[Old Thai Hand]

i use my thai driver's license to avoid the two tier pricing. up north they have these damn private attractions like the buddha museum and the hall of opium which charge farang's 200 thb and thai's 100. i just refuse to gve them my business. screw em!

one over-zealous thai nazi ticket girl did put me throught the 3rd degree until her supervisor saw that i was a prof at chula and was duely impressed. i said in thai to my gf, loud enough so the girl hassling me could hear that i probably paid more in taxes here every month than she makes as a salary.

i'm not against 2-tier pricing for tourists or even non-tax-paying foreign residents. it's everywhere. in india, the taj mahal was 5 rupees for indians and i think 150 for foreigners when i was there. but, if you're a expat, paying taxes you should be treated the same as locals. i'm going to koh samet next month. it will be interesting to see if i can do this again.

[One Tree Hill]

Let me add to this. If you are livng and working in Thailand then in most cases you can avoid the farang upcharge by showing your work permit and/or social security card. Tell them that you are not a tourist and pay taxes like Thais do. On a recent trip to Kanchanaburi province this worked for me at a Khmer Temple Ruin and at Sai Yok National Park. Both places took a bit of pleading but it was succesful. At Sai Yok Noi I beleive the Thai price was 20 baht and Farang price 200. It adds up.

[Retired Army]

i'm not against 2-tier pricing for tourists or even non-tax-paying foreign residents. it's everywhere. in india, the taj mahal was 5 rupees for indians and i think 150 for foreigners when i was there. but, if you're a expat, paying taxes you should be treated the same as locals.

150 ruphees is $3 and after driving all day to get to agra i wouldn't complain about the surcharge. but to pay extra at some already overpriced tourist trap gets my goat. usually at the government sponsored venues there is no two tier pricing. the two tier pricing seems to be at the profit motivated places.

[Old Thai Hand]

150 Ruphees is $3 and after driving all day to get to Agra I wouldn't complain about the surcharge. But to pay extra at some already overpriced tourist trap gets my goat. Usually at the government sponsored venues there is no two tier pricing. The two tier pricing seems to be at the profit motivated places.

Many government institutions also have 2-tiered pricing: National Museum, Grand Palace, all National parks etc. For example, Koh Samet was 50 baht across the board for both Thais and Farang when I first came here. Then under Taksin, they suddenly raised it to 300 for Farang.

Hey, it exists in sin sord, too. If my GF married a Thai, he'd get her for about 100,000 and 5 baht of gold, maybe less. If I marry her, it will be at least 500,000 and 10-15 baht of gold.

Now that's 2-tiered pricing!

[M P Lurker]

Many government institutions also have 2-tiered pricing: National Museum, Grand Palace, all National parks etc. For example, Koh Samet was 50 baht across the board for both Thais and Farang when I first came here. Then under Taksin, they suddenly raised it to 300 for Farang.
Hey, it exists in sin sord, too. If my GF married a Thai, he'd get her for about 100,000 and 5 baht of gold, maybe less. If I marry her, it will be at least 500,000 and 10-15 baht of gold.
Now that's 2-tiered pricing!
My girl friend was long separated but still legally married to Thai ex husband.
I had to pay a steepish price to get her divorce all signed sealed and delivered at time when he was trying to suck money for his father's operation. Fortunately he didn't know about her new Farang boyfriend or the price would have sky-rocketed.

[Phantomtiger2]

It has warmed up quite nicely in Chiang Mai. I actually used the fan in my room last night. For Farangs a light jacket is all you need. .


Actually, CM (the city, not sure about the mountains) was not the focus of the distress. It was center further north in Chiang Rai and most of those mountain areas that was the main concern--reports of deaths from the cold are from CR.
But I do agree that seeing the locals all bundle up in 60 degree weather is laughable as I too am from Canada.


PT

[Member #3200]

I too am a Canadian & 7 years ago i went 2 the Bahamas & hell no it wasnt a mongering trip bc black caribbean countries & women are not what i call places i would go & women i find remotely attractive,but i found it hilarious on that trip when somedays it was in the mid 60s-low 70s with a breeze & the natives are wearing toques,samething happened in Cuba 2 decembers ago when it went down 2 low 60s & the resort staff complaining it was mucho freol/very cold while i was drinking cold cocktails while wearing shorts

[Greed Is Good]

I know things are slow up here but only reports on how cold it is up here. There is some sanook to be had !! :-)

Been back in town about a month now. Till about the 26th or 27th the bars were above average in attendance by farangs. Then the New Yr holiday hit. Combine that with the freaking flower festival and things have really picked up. Loi Kroi teaming with punters the last two nights. Went to the Beer Bars inside the Boxing Complex. And they were VERY busy last night. Some of the MP girls have told me things are slow at Pandora and Ping Payon. Surayai and Nancy busy as always with Thais, Koreans, and Chinese. Girls in the bars really haven't changed the prices that much in the BB's anyways. But Foxy Lady, and the remodeled Star Six, are NUTS. Foxy---600Bht BF. Poo Ying wanted 3500Bht LT! Then a little cutie in Star wanted the same for LT and 1500Bht for ST !! 500Bht BF. I quickly protessted with my feet. Wait till Low Season gentleman. Course in Foxy 3 nights ago saw 5 men of asian persuasion plunk down the BF and walk out proudly with their purchases. Guess they don't mind paying ridiculous prices. Me, I have called up my LT regulars and hunkered down for the rainy season when prices are normal.

[That Asshole]

Continued from the Isaan report at
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Chiang Mai and Lampang (North Thailand)

Chiang Mai

General:
You do not have to believe popular Thai propaganda and colorful brochures citing CM as the "Rose of the North", etc. Apart from a few boxes of flowers on the side of bridges it is a pretty grim, usual, polluted Thai town that just happens to have lots of foreign visitors. The traffic is incessant, crossing the roads is a nightmare, and most temples are hidden behind some new faceless concrete structure. (And if you have seen 200 temples in your life, just one more is not going to be a great attraction anyway.)

The only good thing about CM is that the locals are so used to foreigners that you will feel much more comfortable staying more than a few days, than most about anywhere else in Thailand. They are rude as usual, but at least the Thais won't stare at point at you: "Look, a farang! How ugly!"
And there is some meat too, if you look around. For more, see below.

Transport:
CM has an international airport, a railway station and a major bus station. Train runs to Bkk only (eg. you cannot go directly to Udon by train) but bus connections are frequent to all parts of the country. The "Arcade Bus Station" is located 3km NE, and the train station 1 km E of the siti. Both are serviced by cheap local public transport, both buses and songtaos (pick-up truck). Samlo (tuk-tuk) to the siti from the bus terminal is 60-80B, from the train 50B. Red and green songtao run to the bus station and red songtao to the train. Local fare is 10B. The easiest to board these is at the Warorot market terminal, near the river. However, Thais can be most unhelpful in assisting foreigners to use public transport in CM.

Accomodation:
As the siti is a main backpacker destination, lots of cheap accomodation is available and quality usually good. Fan rooms from 150B, aircon from 300B, all centrally located in the back-streets of down-town.

Food:
As comfortable it might be for first time visitors, the food scene does not compare with "real Thai" cities, such as Kon Ken. In CM the food is expensive, watered down to farang tastes and cheap foodstalls are uncommon. However, menus in English are most common as is western food. Restaurants with menu only in Thai seem reluctant to serve foreigners.

Meat:
As I have remarked earlier, in touristy centres resentment and bias against foreigners is commonplace and brothels catering to locals often will not easily serve westerners. We have to understand this as of course our presence can irritate asians. We are loud, unruly and have different temperament to theirs. Your best bet is to go with a local (even a friendly taxi driver will do) and keep very low-key. Apart from that the town is supplied with a reasonably large number of Pattaya-style beer bars and even a go-go bar. The nearby town of Lampang is quite a different story, as few foreigners venture that far. There the only places available are the Thai style and you will be serviced (although with premium cost).

Area #1: Nimmanhemin road, soi 11 (3km NW of siti) is unfortunately experiencing rapid development and most of the delightful brothels have been torn down. Only two remaining, foreigner price 500B/ST. Service starts 6pm. Ugly girls too.

Area #2: Hatsadi-Sewi road (1km N of siti), near Novotel Hotel, is the main ST area at the moment. Many karaoke brothels and some pretty girls too. ST 5-600B (incl. room) for foreigner. Unfortunately, you may have to try several places before one accepts you. Even then service might be unnatural and shitty. Also, late at night it is a downright rough area, so be careful.
Other possibilities:

1./ Rungfa Karaoke, near the Imperial Mae Ping hotel. Presently accepts foreigners (although you will likely be the only one there) for 1500B/ST (one hour) +room 100B. it is an upmarket sort of place with lots of pretty girls and good service. Sign outside is only in Thai and so is the menu. Beers are around 80B but you don't have to buy one. Just sit down and pick a girl from the many who sit around the room. They will drive you to a nearby hotel. You pay room price 100B at reception. Once inside the room you will have to pay the girl "up-front" (very profesional). Then she will call her boss that you are okay. After you finished she will call the boss again tha she is still okay and they will come to collect her. You won't need transport because you can walk to the beerbars on Rachawithi road (marked on map).

2./ The above mentioned "farang-oriented" beer bars and one gogo on Rachawithi rd. offer the usual Pattaya scene with barfines. There is one cluster of bars near the moat and another inside town near the night bazar, but same street. I think ST here is 1000B+BF 300B+drinks. So you pay same as at above. This is an expensive town for the "hobby".

3./ Soapy massage parlours in CM charge foreigners 1900-2000B and service is unpredictable. Also, is is a very Thai scene again. You might feel uncomfortable to be the only westerner.
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One particular night in C.Mai:
I found a nice Isaan-man taxi driver and he was extraordinarily helpful. First we had a look at some brothels on Hatsadi-Sewi Rd. Out of the 5 we tried only one said okay to farang but the girls were not much to look at and also the place was packed with Thais so I decided against it. So we aimed for Rungfa. The first girl who sat down next to me looked okay, well dressed, clean and smiley, around 25 but childless (I asked). Good enough but it is quite a different feeling to squeeze a young girl's tits.

So, I asked her to send me another girl, a long haired very slim 20yo. No probs at all and she came over. Looked allright, tall, white, fresh and pretty. We headed to the ST hotel. The room was quite good for the price, clean and comfortable. We showered together. My girl was not shy, with nice sml/med sized bangers, silky skin but quite flat ass and soft belly. She was nice but wouldn't suck.

Friendly service but not too enthusiastic. We spent about 40 mins in the room total. For the cost of 1500 fuck+100 room+100 taxi=1700B it is surely not great value. However the service was far superior and the girl prettier than the one from the beer-bar for 300BF+1000ST+150 drinks =1450B which I tried some time before. And surely better than the Nana Plaza deal of 600BF+1500ST+400room+250drinks =2750B.
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Lampang (90km S. of CM)

General:
Typical Thai town with unstopping traffic, pollution and general mayhem. Has a reasonably attractive riverfront, a central shopping area okay night-market and good value accomodation. You will possibly bear it for a day or two but you will feel strange, nevertheless. (Thais gossiping behind your back, or even before you: "Look, a farang! How ugly!") Very few foreigners visit this town and really there isn't much to see or do, apart from the "hobby"..

Transport:
Once you make it to the Arcadia Bus station in CM you can catch any bus going to Bangkok as they will stop in Lampang. Trip about 2 hours. Fare 60-70B, depending on class.

Accomodation/food:
Lampang excels in this aspect. If you consider the Udon-Thani style clocktower the centre of town, either to the west or the east the streets are lined with hotels of varied quality but good value for price. Also to the west you will find the night-market and the tourist-office, both near the TipChang hotel. Also, the food tends to be of more authentic quality and cheaper than in CM.
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A night of rampage in Lampang (by ugly idiot farang man):

At night it may be difficult to find taxis in this town. However there is a 24 hr taxi stand neat the Pin hotel, east of clocktower. The driver was friendly enough. He mentioned the places with the "bad rooms" and places with "good rooms" and I opted for the latter. We headed towards Chiang-Rai to the outskirts of town, not far from the Regent Loj Hotel. Arrived at an apartment block of some sort. Here different doors were opened for me with women of different ages inside rooms.

Surely, all rooms totally awesome, clean and modern. Better than mine! I passed on the 30yo ones for 500B and chose a 22 yo for 700B. (Maybe you could get a 60yo for free?) Your experience may vary in the following aspect but the service I received was quite shitty, even for the 700B ($20), though the girl looked allright.

But as somebody has mentioned earlier, you need the shitty ones just to feel the difference and appreciate the real good ones. Out of 10, shitty are about 2, average 6 and excellent only 2, on average.

After this, we went to the house of some-sort of "papasan" (as in Nakhon Panom) who could call up girls on the handphone. I specifically requested 19-20 yo ones and he promised them for 700B. Soon, two old women about 30yo or more, turned up on motorbikes, their hair done up in ponitails like schoolgirls. I thought they were making a fool of me so, I sent them away. Both looked very angry and so did the papasan. Nevermind.

As last stop I wanted to check out a soapy-massage. There is only one in town. Very quiet, only 4 girls in the fishbowl and no customers. Papasan here was friendly enough. Prices started at 850B for a fatty looking woman and a young girl costing 1200B. I always choose the young, pretty one, so it was an easy choice.

Room was of third-world class and so the service, totally marginal. The idiot girl complaining non-stop, about everything. I got my fuck but was so angry that the 100B I had in my pocket for tip I gave to the papasan boss who happily thanked it. After all he was nice. Again, your experience can vary and mine is no guide at all.

Plus there are still the places with "bad rooms" which need to be checked out.
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The "shitty end":

As the bus ride up to CM was extremely long I decided to book a sleeper train right away. There at least I can get a good sleep, so I thought. I was wrong.

As the row of passengers entered the carriage somebody already remarked "hm, there is some strange smell here...". This remark made a lot of sense later. Bedtime followed. The conductor made it up for everybody, as usual, with nice crispy white sheets. All the while I noticed some strange odour that innocently could have come from the nearby rubbish bin or the toilets on the corridor or even from the young couple with the crying baby nearby (as it smelled like sort of baby-shit).

The most interesting was though that the smell was most intense inside my little compartment. I figured innocently that maybe a used nappy having rolled under the seats somehow. Was about to think of something nice and going off to sleep to the rhythm of the wagon wheels but I suddenly became aware of some wetness around my waist area.

Did not even need to look very closely to see the ever growing brown patch seeping through the sheet. The shit was on my bed! Somebody emptied their bowels right there and the shit soaked into the mattress. It seemed so shocking that I even laughed. Funny. Here I am rolling in someone's forgotten excrement. They might be looking for it.

The conductor was already asleep on top of some used bedlinen at the end of the carriage. I felt lucky to be able to explain in some broken Thai of what was happening. He seemed totally disinterested and just pushed another clean sheet in my hands. I considered my options. Throw the whole mattress out and try to sleep on the hard bunk. Possibly I would't sleep at all. And it is just as dirty anyway. Sleep is important. And I am already covered in shit anyway, there is no way to shower here. So, I spread the new sheet over the old one and tried to get some sleep. The stink had a sort of radish scent to it. And the patch now seeping through two sheets had a sort of "reddish" tint.

I like radishes, especially freshly cut on top of buttered bread. I was trying to think of that. But I just ended up counting the minutes, wide awake. By that time the conductor had barricaded himself away between two carriages and locked the doors so that nobody could disturb him. Finally, I got around an hours sleep with my "dream radish-sandwiches". However, unfortunately I vomited them all out, soon after in the train's toilet. Finally morning came, and we drew pretty near Bangkok.

To my greatest amazement the conductor after removing the shitty sheets, just packed the matress away back in the compartment without the slightest interest, the dreary package waiting for it's next victim.

By that time I got used to the stink and didn't feel it that strong. However, noticed that the other passengers pulled awy from me on the subway to Sukumvit rd. Finally arriving in the hotel the receptionist started coughing and asked me if I had eaten radishes recently. I said yes, but unfortunately they all came out not long after, all courtesy of State Railway of Thailand. She didn't understand. Nevermind.

Interesting experience though. Wouldn't give it for a bagful of shit.
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BTW while in C.Mai, I managed to save up some moni by eating only the half of a plate of fried rice for lunch and putting the rest in a plastic bag , saving it for dinner. Also, I sat down to sing songs at the Tapeh gate. They paid me to stop. So, soon saved up enough for a cheap flight Bkk. >to P.Pen. Certainly better scene than CM. Story continues there.
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[Angus Magee]

Hi T A,

What a great report. Thanks for taking the time and effort. I was in CM a couple of years ago and really enjoyed it there. I found the girly scene a bit subdued but the experiences I had were generally good. Your report really took me back there and made me dream of another journey.

And the shitty train story, what can I say, priceless!

Again-thanks for the entertaining read.

AM

[Opebo]

Excellent report as always, Humble Turd. I know you avoid travel by air, as do I (for both financial and experiential reasons), but I noticed your recent travels were from Isaan to the North or vis versa. In this case due to the difficulties of ground transport between the two regions - terribly long bus journeys over small mountain ranges or train to Bkk and back up - I would recommend air travel.

Nok Air provides regular flights (http://www.nokair.com/s1000_obj/front_page/page/19.html?content_category_id=81) between Udon Thani and Chiang Mai for I think around 1,600-1,800 baht.

[RCA Knight]

Besides the mentioned karaoke near Imperial Mae Ping, there are still some more around the Chinag Mai Plaza Hotel.

I think there are at least 3-4 karaoke pick ups near the main entrance to the Plaza Hotel. I was there last June, picked up from a shop in front of the CM Plaza Hotel entrance, and the price was 1500ST and you get to take the girl back to your room or can use a ST room nearby. I paid directly to the store. Had about 15-20 girls to choose, other nearby shops had about 10-15. Some okay ones, but did not have super class. The price was same 1500ST. Foreigner friendly I think as least to me and my friend.

[Greed Is Good]

I am not one to stir up anything here but your report, some of it anyway, has me wondering if you actually went to any of the places mentioned?

I have been living here for 5 years now and the prices you quoted are way outa whack!

Maybe you got over charged but those are not the prices I pay or experience.

[NicFrenchy]

Maybe you got over charged but those are not the prices I pay or experience.Easy, it's because you know the prices.

SAYURI COMPLEX

When I go to Sayuri, the MP the Thais also custom, I pay 1,000 thb for the regular lady, 1250 for the "B" ladies (soapy massage), 1700 for the "M" (models) and 2500 for the "S" (Supermodel)

I have VERY rarely seen Supermodels there, they sit on the upper Couches and to be honest are not that nice.

One thing I noticed is that sometimes the ladies change their number so be careful when Booking ahead.
My Fav is M14, she's a Doll.

Prices here vary depending on the Customer :

1. if you come via TukTuk, you're considered the "Tourist", a sucker that will get charged 2,500 for a regular girl (500 goes to the TukTuk Driver)

2. if you arrive there and are a Farang that does not know the price, they will charge you 2000 for the Regular girls

3. if you speak a little Thai and don't know the prices well, they will try and Squeeze 1500 out of you.

4. the Thais and Local Farangs pay 1000.

Tried a few girls there and the regular ladies are very lousy, uninterested and Mechanical.

PANDORA

They charge 1400 for the basic girls and 2500 for the superstar (because they are young).

I like the service of Pandora Better.

It is a matter of personal choice, both MP's are pretty similar.

Go for a massage, and ask for the girl's Phone, she will be happy to meet you once she finishes work or on her day off ;)

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[NicFrenchy]

Just as an info,

if you plan on renting a motorbike in Chiang Mai, NEVER pay more than 100thb/day (even for Automatic bikes).

there are plenty of Shops that will rent you their bikes (mostly Honda Waves or Yamaha Mio) for 100 per day.

Also, NEVER leave your Passport with them, they will ask you for it but do not let them keep it.

You need to have it with you and show them the original, yes, but you can leave them any photo ID to keep and get back your passport. Most shops will not insist and be happy to take the ID card as long as they saw the Original of the Passport first.

Also, if you get pulled over and have no license or helmet, here is what you should do :

- Tell the police officer that you want to pay "on the spot"
- he will most likely Charge you 200 THB
(200 is expensive but it covers the fine + the cop will ask a mototaxi to go to the police station and pay for you.. hence the markup on the fine)

One other thing to know about renting bikes in Chiang Mai (and that is also valid across Thailand) : YOU and the bike and NOT insured! no insurance for the damages caused

[NicFrenchy]

Report from Last December.

Upon arrival in the parking lot of the Sayuri complex, a security guard offered his help to park and look after my bike (great service). I enter the joint and there are about 20 girls waiting at the entrance.

The girls are from the Karaoke place on the left, expensive joint and expensive ladies so I pass.

On the right side are some stairs that lead to 2 doors : the one on the right is leading to Karaoke Rooms or to some Traditional thai Massage Rooms and Masseuse (4th floor).

The Traditional Thai Massage floor is nothing special and the massage is performed by some older and not beautiful looking ladies. They are legit masseuses and give you a Good TTM.

The Door in front of the Stairs is the Sayuri MP.

Upon entering, you have some sofas on your left and the Fishbowl on your right. Some days you can be lucky and there will be over 40 ladies (happened to me only once) and some other days there will be 5 girls.

This place caters 90% to Thais, 5% non asian, 5% Japanese.

Services, Numbers and Prices I already wrote in my previous Post on Chiang Mai http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=552939&postcount=791

There are 3 Papasans working the Floor here, 2 older and a younger Thai. I always dealt with the young Thai Papasan and found him to be a fair Guy.

I usually like to sit and order a beer (Heineken @ 80thb), take my time and watch the ladies reactions and behavior in the Fishbowl. The couches where you sit are right across from the Bowl and very close to each other.

Every time I’ve been there, I always found myself talking to other Thai customers… they love to talk to the “Farang”, and I like to have a conversation with them also. They all want to know the same thing: which ladies do I like and why? Then they tell me the ladies they like and wait for my comments. It is always a good laugh as they go for the “White skinned girls” and I go for the “darker” ones LOL

Anyhow, back on track… I am sitting there sipping on my beer when young Papasan sits beside me and gives me a big Wai, we exchange a few courtesies and he asks me which lady I like : #56, #M14(my Fav), #B110, #30. He right away tells me that M14 has 3 bookings and will be taken most of the night.

He also warns me that #B110 already had 3 customers, that #56 has bad feedback from customers. There you go! Then #30 it is… Still, he warns me that #30 have 2 kids and scar on the stomach. I still decide to take her and he calls her out.

Most customers are older Thais that could be these girl’s fathers so when I am standing there at the cashier’s desk and the girls see me, they send my girl an envious look and a wink.

For sure, if I was one of these ladies, I would prefer to be “mounted” by a 30 y old rather than an old Thai. Well, it is surprisingly the opposite LOL, the lady told me that a lot of Thai guys complain most of the time about their lives and families and so and so and just get a quick 5mn BJ. This amazed me. But she confirmed that the older men liked to be Bathed and sucked and then talk.

Well, to each their own, I come here to fuck LOL

#30 has a hot little body and also scars on the stomach (not a turnoff for me, I don’t care).

She washes me in the Tub (very mechanical with Minimum teasing), then on to the bed and she starts to kiss a little on my chest and starts a CBJ. After 5 mn, she proceeds to mount me.

(no DATY, No foreplay) just business, and After 30 mn I still can’t come so she removes the condom and starts a HJ. Then puts a new Condom and the sex resumes, this time I come fast and she is happy.

She washes me quickly, 300 tip for her and I am out. On the way out, I slip Papasan a 200 Tip and he tells me to come back soon.

I prefer Pandora because the service is unrushed and the lady makes you feel more special. Sayuri is VERY busy and the girls are usually tired by the time I get there (23h)

[Tiger 888]

Easy, it's because you know the prices....
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[Phantomtiger2]

Just as an info,


Also, if you get pulled over and have no license or helmet, here is what you should do :

- Tell the police officer that you want to pay "on the spot"
- he will most likely Charge you 200 THB
(200 is expensive but it covers the fine + the cop will ask a mototaxi to go to the police station and pay for you.. hence the markup on the fine)

One other thing to know about renting bikes in Chiang Mai (and that is also valid across Thailand) : YOU and the bike and NOT insured! no insurance for the damages caused



Hey Frenchy,
Is the helmet law new in CM?
I was there last year and never had trouble without the helmet. The only places that seems to enforce this rule was in Pattaya and sometimes Phuket.

There are few places (not many) that will rent a moto with insurance but certainly not for 100b/day places. Also the contract will be in Thai and almost never in English (or French). Best to have a Thai sweetie confirm the contract beforehand as sometimes its bogus (assuming that sweetie is smart enough to read).


PT

[NicFrenchy]

Tiger 1,

Thanks a lot for the Compliment, deeply appreciated ;)

Phantomtiger2,

The Helmet law is valid across Thailand, it is just not enforced.

You can basically get pulled over by any policeman, anywhere in Thailand.

The Fee for no helmet is 40thb, the fee for no licence is 100thb. ;)

[NicFrenchy]

As usual, I make my first stop @ Sayuri to check out the talent (or lack thereof). I sit and order a beer. Not a lot of ladies tonight (about 20) in the Fishbowl and lots of Potential customers (I am the only Farang). Papasan approaches and asks me what I like, I tell him that there is nothing really up to what I want and that I will go check Pandora.

Pandora is 2mn away from Sayuri (by motorbike), maybe 10mn walk. Upon entering Pandora you will see a fountain with Fishes. To the left is the Restaurant/Karaoke and on the right is the Fishbowl.

Some ladies will be in the Fishbowl and some others sitting on sofas. There are 2 types of ladies here and they are very easily recognizable:

Regular ladies are the ones with numbers: 1,400 thb for 90mns

Superstars are the ones without numbers: 2,500 thb for 90mns

Basically, the superstar are not much better looking than the regular girls, they are just younger.

Same as Sayuri, I sit down and order a beer (except @ Pandora they don’t have the small Heineken bottles, just the large ones)… Papasan sits down beside me and starts to suggest some ladies. I hate when Papas start to get pushy and politely send him away, telling him “I” will call him when “I” will decide on a girl; he gets the message and walks away.

Not many ladies here, maybe 15 and already 50% are discarded in my mind (Too much makeup, Katoey lookalike, too old…)

I see 2 nice ladies on the sofa beside me and they smile at me, but 2,500 is a little over my budget and they are not that nice to justify the price increase. I concentrate on the numbered ladies call up Papasan and choose Miss Shompoo (more a lack of options rather than a choice per se). I think she has number 19 but maybe they change numbers sometimes so don’t rely on it.

Papasan leads me to the Cashier where I pay 1,400 for 1h30 minutes with the lady. She escorts me up the stairs to a fairly large room and as soon as she closes the door behind her, she jumps in my arms and starts French kissing… not a bad start. She tells me she was happy that I chose her because she likes Farangs.

Meaningless chit-chat while the Tub fills up, I manage to undress her and feel her up a little before we jump in a hot bath. She washes me thoroughly and starts a very slow HJ followed by a BBBJ. I let her do her thing for a little while and then suggest we move on to the bed for sake of comfort.

She has small tits but still manages to get me aroused by rubbing them against my balls. She moves her breasts down and makes an attempt to titty fuck me (unfortunately her twins are too small for my big ass LOL).

I decide to take charge of the operations and lay her down on the bed… I work my tongue over her body and progressively go down near her pussy and she starts to moan a little.

She really is into the Pussy eating, and after licking and fingering for a while she let the juices out.

My turn now. I lay down and let her give me a quick BJ while she puts on the Rubber. Sex is ok, nothing spectacular and after a few positions I lay back down and remove the condom for her to finish me with a BBBJ.

BBBJ is passable, she puts way too much teeth but still manages to make me bust a nut. I come in her mouth but she jumps back and half of the load lands on my stomach LOL

Shompoo would be a good time maybe with repeats, she gave me her number and wanted me to call her but I never actually called.

Tipped her 300 thb and left.

All in all, I think that Pandora is better GFE than Sayuri however sayuri has many more girls on Payroll.

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[Road Lover]

I
Escort - happened to get the name card from a tik-tuk driver one night, saying that girls can be delivered to the hotel y just giving him a call. I tried the second night and so he came after less than half an hour of calling. 2 girls were delivered for choosing; I took one and the other asked for taxi money back so gave her 100 Baht. Service charge is at 1500 Baht for short term. I had no problem bringing the girl to my room at Novotel but it was late (close to 12pm) and no bell boy or any hotel staff were around at the gate; not sure if any surcharge will be imposed if they find girl being taken up.

Both girls delivered were quite good looking but I doubt if this service can be used with those whom cannot speak Thai since it will be a bit difficult to communicate with those pimps who bring the girl.

Hope the information is soehow useful for those coming to this Northern city.


Thanks Saint,

For what looks like th eonly referrence to call by phone service. But here again it was thanks to the tuk-tuk driver. I prefer to have the option of calling girls from my hotel rather than go fight with locals ina bar or a MP and then take the risk of being seen with a girl by one of my group members. I realise that I might not have control over the girl I get. But atleast you have given some direction. I will try this. If there is any other information or hints anybody else can share on this, I will be really obliged. Also is all hotels in CM GF?

[NicFrenchy]

Also is all hotels in CM GF?Not really... usually they charge a Cover for the girl. Some are GF though, but I wouldn't know because I avoid mongering in my hotels in CM.

[Pirate1]

I'd say there more GF hotels in CM than not friendly. As a rule, hotels on/near punter pickup places are mostly GF and hotels with name that sound of sex are also good.

Ex: Ramming lodge/hotel and Porn (somethin--cant remember) hotel

Pirate1

[Oosik1]

I just returned home after 4 months in CM and northern Thailand. Although I have yet to visit Sayuri, I did visit the soapy massage at the Hotel Phucome, which is out Huay Kaew Rd. at the canal intersection (on left across canal). The massage parlor is not actually IN the hotel. Walk past the front entrance of the hotel and into their parking garage. Way in the back left you'll see some neon lights...massage, beer, etc. Walk up the wide staircase and into the parlor. Take a seat in one of the booths and a Thai man employee will come sit with you to explain things. They will try to rush your decision unless you tell them you want to take your time, and maybe have a beer while you look over the girls. Straight ahead, but not behind glass, are the "young" ones who go for 1400 baht for 1 1/2 hours. They are roughly 18 - 22, but I'm guessing. To your right, and behind glass, are the "older" ones. They range from about 20 - 30, but I'm am guessing again. First time I was there I chose a young one, but learned soon that experience counts for more than age. She tried to put a condom on my soft cock, and the condom wasn't the extra large size, so take your own. Next time I chose on older gal for 1000 baht, and she was fantastic.

I also checked out the 3 ***** houses on Soi 13 off Nimmenhaemen Rd., but that's a whole different report.

[SB Lumens]

Oosik1,

I've Tried the hotel Phukum (sp?) massage before. Papasan seemed more interested in pushing a new girl than meeting my requests. Met with a gamer anyway, but overall just ok.

Definitely try Suyadi on your next trip. I was immediately struck by a hot number with more than her share of cleavage for a Thai girl. Didn't want to rush things, so I browsed a bit. Still came back to the ample-chested #83. Granted, it's not the porno experience you can get at my favorite MP in Bangkok, but without a doubt she had the finest natural form I've experienced. After 3-4 BKK trips later, still waiting for one that can match her godess-like body.

SB

[NicFrenchy]

I just returned home after 4 months in CM and northern Thailand. Although I have yet to visit Sayuri, .....I am at a loss for words. You stayed in Chiang Mai for 4 months and Actually never tried Sayuri or Pandora? Wow. This is rather. Unusual.

[Oosik1]

I am at a loss for words. You tayed in Chiang Mai for 4 months and Actuallu never tried Sayuri or Pandora? Wow. This is rather. Unusual.

Well, let me clarify that my main purpose of being in CM and northern Thailand was not mongering. When I WAS in CM, and had the time and urge to go mongering, I limited my activities to places of familiarity and comfort level. However, most of my time was spent in places other than CM. My female friends in other parts of northern Thailand kept my mind focused on them, so little time or opportunity for mongering. I will, however, be sure to check out Sayuri...........and #83.

[NicFrenchy]

I will, however, be sure to check out Sayuri...........and #83.Beware. The numbers change sometimes. They are pretty steady usually but if #83 is off, another girl might wear her number (for good luck).

It that's big tits you like, try B110 and B118. 2 cute and small ladies with a big pair of naturals

[Asian John]

Well, after a little diversion, I'm back in the mongering business. I had a girlfriend (asian, but American born), but she just left for America for good. To be honest, it was a nice change for awhile. But now, mongering never felt so good.

Just a comment about Sayuri and tits. The other day I was at Pandora, and one of the girls (#20. Je-ahb) mentioned that Sayuri was known to have girls with bigger tits on average. I thought that was interesting because that was consistent with what I had seen as well. Sayuri is great for the price (1, 000 baht) and selection (when you go at the right time. The only thing I don't like about Sayuri is that it does get crowded. Many times, there are more guys than chicks. This is why Pandora, Ping Payon, Nancy, etc appeal to me despite the higher price. I like walking in being the only guy with about 10-20+ girls.

I went to Bubbles on Saturday night. Didn't really find anything. The more attractive girls had already been taken. Incidentally, I recognized and talked with a girl that I had fucked a few times at Sayuri.- she works a day shift at Sayuri (2PM. 12AM), and then she makes her way to Bubbles. Wow, hard working girl.- great attitude. Then I wondered how many other of these Bubble girls are similar.- they get fucked 5-6 times during the day, and then look for LT at night. Geez, she did look a little tired, but was still smiling. What are the better night clubs for mongering these days? Mandalay? Forte? V Club? Bossy?

Since I didn't really see anything great looking at Bubbles, I moved across the street to a Karaoke bar that I had never been to. I've lived in Chiang Mai for a couple of years now, and for the life of me, I still can't figure out this scene. There are some AMAZING looking girls singing and swaying there hips. EVERYONE in the joint is Thai sitting and drinking. Customers send up money necklaces (300 baht to 1, 000+baht! ). In return, the girls come and talk to the customers and the customers buy her lady drinks. I noticed 2 tables of Thai men shelling out lots of baht, and several ladies coming to talk. Then, I noticed the Thai men, pay the bill AND LEAVE. WITHOUT the girls? Why make such a huge investment. To talk? Of course, I understand that if you "make a good impression", she may go home with U. But it just doesn't seem like a "sure thing". When I shell out any amount of baht.- I'm spoiled in thinking that there WILL BE a return on my investment. When I look at these gorgeous chicks wearing almost nothing, I find it hard to believe they are not selling sex. Am I wrong? Am I too spoiled? Are these girls really just performing to get tips and money necklaces and to talk? Is there a method to this madness? Can someone explain? Now, keep in mind, this Karaoke joint shouldn't be confused with other Karaoke joints that you pick a girl of your choice then get a private room.- those are easy scores. But this type of Karaoke joint has a stage with various girls taking turns singing (I. E. Nancy Karaoke bar, New Star Palace, etc.). Any help would be appreciated!.

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[Wtboatr]

Anyone know if the Hotel Anodard is girl friendly?

[NicFrenchy]

Ping Payon, Nancy, etc Never came across these. Where are they located?

Thanks in advance

[Vinny_Viagra]

I will be in CM soon. Last time I stayed at the Diamond Riverside. It wasnt bad. I liked the location. It was a short walk to the night market. I found a neat outdoor restaurant near the hotel called the White Orchid. Can someone tell me the name of another hotel or two near the night market of fairly good quality? Also does anyone know if the White Orchid is still in business?

[NicFrenchy]

Can someone tell me the name of another hotel or two near the night market of fairly good quality? I love the D2 in Chiangmai.

http://www.d2hotels.com/

[Asian John]

Seems like this is the subject of most interest right now.

D2 is the best hotel in the area (other than The Chedi I suppose) -- but a little pricey at 3,600+ baht per night on average.

The Central Duangtawan Hotel is without a doubt the best quality for your money at about 1,200-1,600 per night during this time of the year. The nicest pool and weightroom for a hotel in Chiang Mai. And its right across the street from the night bazaar.

Slightly higher in price is the Imperial Mae Ping or the Royal Princess Hotel -- very nice, and right in the middle of the night bazaar.

Slightly lower in price and quality but right dab in the middle of the night bazaar is the Suriwongse hotel (old hotel) and the Royal Lanna Hotel.

But yeah, if you can afford it, go for the D2 hotel -- it's new, sleek and right there in the night market.

[Asian John]

Never came across these. Where are they located?

Thanks in advanceSorry, I'm bad with directions. But I'll try.

Nancy -- in the President Hotel. Down a soi towards the northeast corner of the moat. Most tourist maps will show you the President Hotel. The massage parlor is attached to the hotel along with one of those Karaoke joints that I had a question about in one of my previous posts. Haven't been there in awhile, but from what I rememeber, it doesn't start having chicks until after 5-6pm (unlike Sayuri).

Ping Payon -- this is also attached to a hotel. It's down Suthep road (west of the moat). If you start from the moat on Suthep road and travel west, pass Nimeheiman (sp?), the hotel will be on your left (you'll see some signs in Thai, but with some icons that make it apparent there is some P4P action). Here, there will be about 4-6 girls right at 2pm.

Again, both of these MPs are bit more expensive than good 'ol Sayuri, but then again, your chances of a "more GFE" experience increases.

[Oosik1]

I love the D2 in Chiangmai.

http://www.d2hotels.com/

The Duang Tawan Hotel on Loi Kroh is very nice, with reasonable rates starting at about $50, and a great buffet restaurant on one of the upper floors overlooking the city. It is also close to the Night Market.

[Vinny_Viagra]

I'm spoiled in thinking that there WILL BE a return on my investment. When I look at these gorgeous chicks wearing almost nothing, I find it hard to believe they are not selling sex. Am I wrong? Am I too spoiled? Are these girls really just performing to get tips and money necklaces and to talk? Is there a method to this madness? Can someone explain? Now, keep in mind, this Karaoke joint shouldn't be confused with other Karaoke joints that you pick a girl of your choice then get a private room.- those are easy scores. But this type of Karaoke joint has a stage with various girls taking turns singing (I. E. Nancy Karaoke bar, New Star Palace, etc.). Any help would be appreciated!.

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Please go check this place out and tell me about it. I don't want to waste anytime when I get there. I may only have a few minutes notice that I can have a few free hours. There is a beer in it for you. LOL

VV

[Vinny_Viagra]

Thanks to all. Great information. Its rather difficult to find on the internet hotel list for CM. Some hotels I suspect never get on the list.

VV

[NicFrenchy]

Depends on your budget. Of course, but I don't really care since my company pays for it ;)

And never had a problem with "joiner" ;)

[Member #2041]

If you can live without a swimming pool, I really like the Raming Lodge, a quite new boutique hotel near the end of Loi Kroh road by the Taphae Gate. While it's about 1 KM further from the Night Market than the DuangTuan and the Imperial Mae Ping, it's right next to a cluster of lady bars that are one of the best sources of talent in Chiang Mai. Their listed rates are slightly higher, but I've generally paid around 1400 Baht/nt, and never had any problem bringing a friend back to my room. The only bad reviews that I could find about this place trashed it because of it's convenient location near the lady bars - while I'd suspect that readers of this forum might not consider this to be a shortcoming.

http://www.raminglodge.com/

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g293917-d603013-Reviews-Raming_Lodge-Chiang_Mai.html

[Hari Hara]

[QUOTE=Member #2041]If you can live without a swimming pool, I really like the Raming Lodge, a quite new boutique hotel near the end of Loi Kroh road by the Taphae Gate. While it's about 1 KM further from the Night Market than the DuangTuan and the Imperial Mae Ping, it's right next to a cluster of lady bars that are one of the best sources of talent in Chiang Mai. Their listed rates are slightly higher, but I've generally paid around 1400 Baht/nt, and never had any problem bringing a friend back to my room. The only bad reviews that I could find about this place trashed it because of it's convenient location near the lady bars - while I'd suspect that readers of this forum might not consider this to be a shortcoming.

I stayed here briefly in September of 2006, but left because I was frustrated with their internet connection in the rooms. the staff seemed unable to address it.

I liked the rooms and I think I paid 900 Baht. I would return when they correct the broadband problem.

[Member #2041]

I stayed here briefly in September of 2006, but left because I was frustrated with their internet connection in the rooms. the staff seemed unable to address it.

I liked the rooms and I think I paid 900 Baht. I would return when they correct the broadband problem.

With all the internet cafes charging 1 baht per minute or less in Thailand, I never travel there with a laptop anymore. There are at least 3 of them within 50 yards of the Raming Lodge, so I frankly didn't care a bit about in-room broadband access.

[NicFrenchy]

i frankly didn't care a bit about in-room broadband access.i do. if a hotel does not offer hi-speed wireless internet access, i don't even bother.

i find it always very convenient to travel with my laptop... i like to have all my files handy, and i can't stand reading my emails on another interface than my good microsoft outlook.

i also use internet cafes, but i just ask them and they plug their lan line into my laptop ;) quick and easy.

i guess we're all meant to be different ;)

[Finrod]

With all the internet cafes charging 1 baht per minute or less in Thailand, I never travel there with a laptop anymore. There are at least 3 of them within 50 yards of the Raming Lodge, so I frankly didn't care a bit about in-room broadband access.
Some of us have to travel with a laptop for work (like me) so details like that are still important.

One thing I have done in a couple of places where my hotel did not have working broadband is to take my laptop to a cafe that will let me use a spare hookup for the same rate they charge to their regular users. Then I connect to a VPN and do my business through that.

[Member #2041]

Some of us have to travel with a laptop for work (like me) so details like that are still important.
I certainly understand. Being retired definitely has it's advantages. I was just explaining that I personally wasn't up on the particular detail of whether their wireless internet access actually worked well in the rooms. But be aware, this can be a problem anywhere - I've even heard that it could be an issue on certain floors of the JW Marriott in Bangkok - again, I am not up on the details, as I have confined my e-mail activity to universally accessible internet based services like Yahoo and att.net so that I have no need to travel with a computer.

[Traveler1234]

Some of us have to travel with a laptop for work (like me) so details like that are still important.

One thing I have done in a couple of places where my hotel did not have working broadband is to take my laptop to a cafe that will let me use a spare hookup for the same rate they charge to their regular users. Then I connect to a VPN and do my business through that.

Lots of hotels on sukhumvit have wireless, especially in lobby. A couple of times, walked in to see if Wifi signal available and then sat down for a few minutes of work, ISG chatter -- often you'll also catch the eye of FL coming down elevator after a 'session' and ......... :)

[Hello1]

Since I didn't really see anything great looking at Bubbles, I moved across the street to a Karaoke bar that I had never been to. I've lived in Chiang Mai for a couple of years now, and for the life of me, I still can't figure out this scene. There are some AMAZING looking girls singing and swaying there hips. EVERYONE in the joint is Thai sitting and drinking. Customers send up money necklaces (300 baht to 1, 000+baht! ). In return, the girls come and talk to the customers and the customers buy her lady drinks. I noticed 2 tables of Thai men shelling out lots of baht, and several ladies coming to talk. Then, I noticed the Thai men, pay the bill AND LEAVE. WITHOUT the girls? Why make such a huge investment. To talk? Of course, I understand that if you "make a good impression", she may go home with U. But it just doesn't seem like a "sure thing". When I shell out any amount of baht.- I'm spoiled in thinking that there WILL BE a return on my investment. When I look at these gorgeous chicks wearing almost nothing, I find it hard to believe they are not selling sex. Am I wrong? Am I too spoiled? Are these girls really just performing to get tips and money necklaces and to talk? Is there a method to this madness? Can someone explain? Now, keep in mind, this Karaoke joint shouldn't be confused with other Karaoke joints that you pick a girl of your choice then get a private room.- those are easy scores. But this type of Karaoke joint has a stage with various girls taking turns singing (I. E. Nancy Karaoke bar, New Star Palace, etc.). Any help would be appreciated!Hi Asian John,

This place is indeed as you describe. The girls will not accompany you and even inside there is no action. It is just elderly Thai men who escape there fore a dinner and drink. Crazy.

[Animby]

Am very likely to be returning to Chiang Mai in April. I'm thinking I'd like to make a quick trip or two into Myanmar. Are any of the border towns of interest? Any difficulty in entering (or leaving) Myanmar? Any mongering to be done? Thanks.

[Vinny_Viagra]

Does anyone know it the White Orchid is still in existance. Its near the Diamond Riverside hotel one on the opposite side from the river.

[Oosik1]

am very likely to be returning to chiang mai in april. i'm thinking i'd like to make a quick trip or two into myanmar. are any of the border towns of interest? any difficulty in entering (or leaving) myanmar? any mongering to be done? thanks.in my personal opinion, i would not recommend visiting myanmar. the government is corrupt to the core. the burmese army manufactures and distributes ya ba (methamphetamine). the longest ongoing war in the world is between the burma army and the karen peoples who's villages have been burned, karen people killed, raped, etc. most of this taking place on the thai border, hence, thousands of karen are fleeing into thailand. the border is heavily mined, border villages can be very unsafe with army informants ready to report any infraction or unusual actions. border towns tend to be gathering places for burmese seedy types. i personally would not spend any of my money in burma. perhaps you should consider cambodia or china. you can get a direct flight to kunming, china and it is only about a hour's flight from cm. whatever your decision, chok dee khup and happy hunting.

[Vinny_Viagra]

Anyone know of nice quality guest houses in CM?

V

[Oosik1]

Anyone know of nice quality guest houses in CM?

V

A great place to stay and eat....Queen Victoria Inn, 252/13-14 Praprokklao Rd, T. Sripoom, A. Muang Chiang Mai, Tele:053-418266. Email:Info@queenvictoriainnsthailand.com WWW.queenvictoriainnsthailand.com

It is right next door to the Vista Hotel, and a few paces down from the new Thai Airways ticket office.

I have eaten there many times, and it is one of the best places to eat if you want quality western style food (they also serve Thai, Indian, and Mexican food)...on oval platters about 16 inches long. Great cooks there. Ian, the owner, and a great guy, also owns the Hungry Horse Bar and Restaurant on Loi Kroh......also a good place to eat. You will like Ian.......very personable. Plus, one of my dream girls, Urai, works at the Queen Vic Inn. Free Internet, too. Rooms are quite reasonable, too. It is located on the north center section of the walled old CM. Songteaws and tuktuk are readily available on the street in front of Inn. Don't pay more than 15 baht for a songtaew ride unless you go to the airport or bus terminal, or other places of that distance.
Some songteaw drivers will try to weasel 20 or more baht from you because you are a farang, but if push comes to shove, tell the driver you can call the Tourist Police and let them sort out the differences. They drive off.

[Animby]

In my personal opinion, I would not recommend visiting Myanmar.You're not the first to remind me of these facts. My passport is about the size of a Stephen King novel and I'm always on the lookout for a trip to a new place. Maybe I'll just take a day trip.

[Oosik1]

Anyone know of nice quality guest houses in CM?

V

Another nice guesthouse where I have stayed is www.hollandamontri.com

[Oosik1]

Where I lived in CM, there was a massage business in the lobby that offered oil massages either in the shop or in your room for 250 baht/hour. I had three different ladies come to my room (separately) to give me an oil massage. After showering, I wrapped myself with a towel and met each lady at the door that way. They entered with their little basket of "tools of the trade" as I took the towel off and layed down on my bed. I thought if they pitch a fit, I will put the towel over me, but I won't have them back again. In all three occasions, all three didn't say a word. One attempted to cover me again, but I took off the towel........she proceeded with the massage. All three agreed to finish the massage with a hand job for a tip. One of them told me they only receive about 40 baht of the 250 baht (80 baht for 2 hrs). She was the oldest, about 50, but she was by far the most experienced and the best of the three. We agreed that on her day off, she would be available to come to my room and "do me." So, I payed her 500 baht a week for 2 hours of the most relaxing massages I have ever had. I can't wait to go back and resume our business relationship. Safe sex at it's best. Shower, get dressed, and go out for a night on the town. Damn! I do miss Thailand.

[Road Lover]

I stayed recently at the Holiday Inn at Chiang Mai. I caled for a massage from the recetion. It is outsourced to an external agency. Got a good thai massage and she was playful with my dick and all and wanted to doa hand job. But I am seasoned and therefore just a hand job wont do. But she seemed to indicate that it was her periods and so wont be able to 'make love'. So went searching for other options later. I saw a big board advertising 'body massage' right in front of the Holiday Inn. SOmehow I was put off into thinking it might just be a rip off joint for the idiot 'farangs'. SO went the opposite way past the parking lot of the Holiday Inn hotel. As soon as you exit the parking lot, you see another sign for 'Traditional Thai massage'. I decided to chance there. It is actually a road side restaurant cum massage place. An old lady asked in broken English beautiful young girl. I smiled my beautific charming smile and innocently said yes. She telephoned some one and said I have to wiat 20 minutes. This was 9 30 am. 20 minutes later a real cuite pretty 19 or so young chick came rushing in her scooty. She did a nice clothed Thai massage. I asked her if she could come to my room in the evening. Lot of murmurs and denying and questions and gestures and all. I just gave her my room number, a nice tip and got her telephone number. The massahe at that place cost me 300 B and I gave her 200 B as tip, which I think impressed her. In the evening I called her. SHe came to my toom at 10, and stayed with me the night.
Everything was on offer. Fantastic lithe body, small tits, tight C, nice round ass, 4 9' hieght, 32 b, mowed lawn, hips that I could circlemy fingers around, smooth white Thai skin, nice medium lenght hair. Not much experience. While she did attempt a BBBJ, it was apparent that she is still an apprentice. But I had a fantastic time with her. She had to go at 6 am as she had to egt ready to get back to the massage parlour by 10 am.
After she had gone I notice that she had left some of her stuff in the toilet. We were both very groggy in the early morning as neither of us had any decent sleep last night! So I called her and told her about her stuff. So she came back with her friend around 9 am. She then very naturally hugged me and pulled her friend to join us and we did a three way huddle. Her friend was a little bit older and stunning. They kept chattering in Thai and she kept telling me todo something to her friend. The long her short of it was she wanted me to do a tongue lick for her friend, which I obliged with great pleasure! 2000 b was the total damage. I think I could get more and perhaps a free thing going. But alas I had to leave CM for other destinations.

[NicFrenchy]

Road lover,

Great Report.

Thanks

[Forever69]

The Thirsty Beaver at the very end of Loi Kroh by the river, FKA. Bunny Club, is a place where ther girls are friendly and give all kinds of massages with no hastle. Surely they will also come to your guesthouse/hotel which is an indication for fs possibilities. In all kinds of massage places massage girls generally do not have boyfriends or husbands because of their job. You get an oil massage and ask them if they massage "there"discreetly and take it from there. Its easy enough and the initial investment of 200/300 bt will at least get you a nice rub and chat. Of course the more they Hello,, you in from the street and wink at you the better your outlook is.

[Chedi]

I've been living in Chiang Mai but rarely do much mongering. Been to Sayuri a few times and have been curious what the other fishbowl massage parlors in town offered. I was hoping to have some fun at Phucome but ended up checking out a few more. Here's a first report.

Chiang Mai Massage at Phucome Hotel

Phucome has been on my to do list for awhile. Headed out there on a Wednesday night after dinner. I walked through the doors and was expecting to see other customers but the lobby was empty.

The papasan greeted me and I think I heard a bell ring to notify the girls. Papasan quoted me 1000 baht for the girls in the fishbowl and 1400 baht for the younger poo-yings outside the fishbowl to the left. There were only about six in the fishbowl and two of the younger gals. I usually don't like to sit down to choose especially if I'm the only customer, plus it feels too much like I have to commit if I take a seat.

I stood for a few minutes checking out what was available inside the fishbowl as the papasan kept on suggesting one of the younger girls. I was really hoping to find one in the fishbowl but nothing remotely caught my eye. The younger gals seemed preoccupied with a cellphone or something. Not a good sign.

Two customers walked in and the papasan went to attend to them. Heard that bell ring again. I decided to bolt and ride across town.

Pandora

First time to Pandora. Don't remember too much. Walked through the karaoke lounge. Gal was singing to an empty place. Got to the fishbowl area and was quoted 1200 baht as I looked over the fishbowl. I think it was about 9pm, not much of a selection. Place was not very busy and I was starting to think Wednesday night was a bad day of the week to go out fishing.decided not to hang out and left. I may try this place again on a different night and closer to 6pm.

Sayuri

I took a short ride over to Sayuri. Been here a few times before in the afternoon. Place was busy as usual. Was hoping to spot a gal I had before or one mentioned recently on this thread. About 15 girls in the fishbowl. All looked bored or disinterested. Someone should mention to these girls a simple smile goes a long way in their line of work. Waited a few more minutes as a few more girls returned. Nothing. Lobby was getting way to smoky to hang around.

FYI, in the past, I've paid 1000 baht at Sayuri. I've yet to be quoted verbally here. I just select a number and give 1000 baht at the counter. One time was asked to pay 1300 baht cause the girl had an 'M' on her badge.

In addition to the fishbowl and karaoke lounge, Sayuri also has a Traditional Thai Massage service up the stairs to the right. I went up there by accident my first visit to Sayuri. I remember the lady asking me if I wanted a Thai massage but knew I was there for a soapy and politely pointed me back down the stairs. Has anyone ever tried the services upstairs, possibly before or after a roll in the hay?

Chiang Mai Hill Massage

I rode back into town all the way to Chiang Mai Hill Hotel. Wasn't sure which direction to go as I entered the parking lot but the parking attendant pointed me to the left towards the back. As I headed that way I saw a "Body Massage" sign near the entrance.

I walked through the empty lobby. You can get a glimpse of the fishbowl through the small glass on the doors as you approach. It was getting late and I wasn't sure what to expect. Walked through the doors. The lobby is dark and small. Fishbowl is small too. A couple of Thai guys hanging out. I think they were all workers.

I was quoted 1200-1500 depending on the girl. About 8 girls in the fishbowl, mosty older. Not a bad thing but none that I wanted to pick that night. I recall reading the girls here are more MILFy. Well, believe it. About three of them were knitting. Beats watching Thai soapTV. I ended up declining, walked out and went home.

Conclusion

May try these places again on a different night and earlier time. Still need to check out Ping Payom and maybe Nancy's Massage at the President Hotel. Went to Nancy's my first visit to Chiang Mai and naively overpaid 2000 baht for a dead fish.

Although I did not participate this night out, I hope the report helps as far as giving some details and info around Chiang Mai.

[Animby]

I've been watching here in anticipation of my upcoming journey. It's ben very quiet for a couple of weeks, now. Am leaving Cairo on Sunday night and arriving in CM on Monday.

How are things in CM right now? Is anything happening?

Anything?

[NicFrenchy]

How are things in CM right now? Is anything happening?

Anything?Can you be a little more precise?

Anything what?

- shopping? yes people are shopping
- Eating? yes people are eating
- Reading? yes, plenty of things to read
- Fucking? yes, plenty of women to fuck

Is that it? Was that good enough?

[Vinny_Viagra]

[QUOTE=Hot Wax]I've been living in Chiang Mai but rarely do much mongering. Been to Sayuri a few times and have been curious what the other fishbowl massage parlors in town offered. I was hoping to have some fun at Phucome but ended up checking out a few more. Here's a first report.

Thank you for your efforts. As I sit in front of my computer screen in Boston thinking about my upcoming trip, reports like yours give us soon to be visitors a head start. We dont have to waste a lot of time or baht investigating and getting ripped off when we get there. I think most tourist stay on 4-5 days so using time efficiently is important.

Last time I was there I stayed at the Diamond Riverside Hotel. It wasn't bad. I think we were the only farangs staying there. It was good enough for me. There was a massage place there but it was in the building near the main road. If you know the hotel its set in by the river in a compount of three or four old buildings. Going out off the compound on the left was an older dumpier hotel with what appeared to be a massage place. I saw several of the hotel guest going over there. I call on the phone for directions but my thai isnt that good anymore so I never did make to that place. I'm just wondering if any of you living there know about it and have tried it. I'm sure it would not be the highest quality place, but sometimes that's ok if the service is nice.

[Animby]

Can you be a little more precise?

Anything what?

- shopping? yes people are shopping
- Eating? yes people are eating
- Reading? yes, plenty of things to read
- Fucking? yes, plenty of women to fuck

Is that it? Was that good enough?Well, thanks, Nic, old man. Glad to hear eating continues. Sadly, I guess sleeping has ended, huh? On the other hand, maybe that's a good thing! Mostly, I was curious about floods, fires and other festivals. But things seem to have cleared up and the rains haven't really started, yet.

Arrived CM three days ago along with an Egyptian bug that had kept me away from any strenuous action. Lovely first meal - a small stone in my food put an end to a molar's health. Good dentist and a crown now chews along.

Found it interesting that in the What's On in Chiang Mai magazine (After Dark supplement) most of the ads are for massages by men for men. One offers "lovely boys" while another offers "handsome, young, muscular men". Gyms, saunas and karoke bars with private rooms and "handsome hosts."

His Club, Free Guy, One-2-Come, House of Male, Coffee Boy are some of the establishments.

Spoke to a local expat last night and he says to be careful since most of the ladies walking around after 10pm are actually lady boys.

I don't remember this from my previous trip. Not of any major interest to me but I'm sure some members of the board will find this info of value.

[Vinny_Viagra]

[QUOTE=Hot Wax]I've been living in Chiang Mai but rarely do much mongering. Been to Sayuri a few times and have been curious what the other fishbowl massage parlors in town offered. I was hoping to have some fun at Phucome but ended up checking out a few more. Here's a first report.
QUOTE]

Yes very helpful. At least I now have some names of places to go to. Im sure I can look up the directions. I'm wondering last time I was in CM was in 1999. I went to a place across from the Suriwongse hotel. I went in there at about 9pm after I lost my family in the Night Bazaar. There was no bath tub or shower in the room. The older massuse sent me down the hallway to a huge shower room where I had no help with the shower. Is this the CM standard? Or, are there some places in CM offering a full body wash in tub or something? Please advise...v

[NicFrenchy]

At least I now have some names of places to go to....A little search would have helped. See below

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=552939&postcount=786
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=555450&postcount=788
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=556996&postcount=792
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=555370&postcount=787

[Hippie]

i have searched a bit but not really found an answer to this question. does anyone know of a good girl-friendly hotel or serviced apartment with reliable high speed internet, and a desk or table in the room to work at? i'd prefer to be near the night bazaar and pay no more than 1500 baht per night (in june, so low season price) but if this is not possible i am open to other recommendations. d2 is definitely out of my price range. i plan to stay for about a week, or longer if i really like chiang mai.

[NicFrenchy]

good girl-friendly hotel or serviced apartment with reliable high speed internet, and a desk or table in the room to work at? i'd prefer to be near the night bazaar and pay no more than 1500 baht per night i am a d2 guy (company pays for it).

your request seems a bit tough. i am not sure 1,500 per night hotels offer free wi-fi and a working desk.

[Chedi]

Does anyone know it the White Orchid is still in existance. Its near the Diamond Riverside hotel one on the opposite side from the river.
Drove up CharoenPraThet Road this evening along the West side of the Ping River. Diamond Riverside Hotel is still there and next to it is a large banner for the PINK Orchid advertising their rooms, restaurant, and I think massage (I was on my motorbike and did not stop to read entire banner).

[Vinny_Viagra]

Drove up CharoenPraThet Road this evening along the West side of the Ping River. Diamond Riverside Hotel is still there and next to it is a large banner for the PINK Orchid advertising their rooms, restaurant, and I think massage (I was on my motorbike and did not stop to read entire banner).

Thank you for your research. I enjoy very much reading the Chiang Mai thread. Its a city that brings back many good memories for me. BTW if your are into beautiful old buildings, I suggest you go into the Riverside compound and take a look at the old teak structure. It must have been a grand place when it was newer. Its off to the left as you enter the compound. They do some Hill tribe dancing in there which isnt very good but just going into the building was a treat for me and family. Its a pitty the black soot is taking over the place.

Years back I use to stay at guest house a bit further down the road as you go away from the night market. I tried to find it but only found rubble evidence that the place had collapsed. It was so nice there along the river. It was near the French consolate which is also on that same road.

[Animby]

I've been in Chiang Mai for about three weeks now. I haven't made it to the soapies, yet, and may not. I'm told the tourist season was miserable this year and many businesses are suffering. Sad to say, but the bad tourist season has gotten to the girls, too! What's economic bad news for girls is usually great news for guys and this is proving true. There is so much talent around it seems to be going for minimum prices and often just for a good time. I met two at a restaurant at lunchtime. A couple of text messages later (ya just GOTTA get a local mobile) and we decided to go to the zoo together. I'm mid 50s and had a delightful time walking around the zoo with a 30 year old on one side and a 24 year old on the other. The 3 year old spent the night. Think I could have had a threesome but I'm no teenager. One is plenty. Besides, Miss 24 took the next shift! Two nights fully appreciated for the price of three tickets to the zoo, dinner X 2 nights. Maybe 1500 baht. They had scooters so I didn't even have to pay for transport to the zoo or home in the mornings!

Even the legit massage places are slow. I went to one for a non-erotic massage (sore shoulder) and got a lot of inappropriate and thoroughly enjoyable stroking from a 27 year old. Picked her up at close of business, had a beer, went to HER room and spent most of the night. She even had a couple of Chang beers for us to share there. Money was never mentioned. I left a bit, though. If you'd seen where she lived, you would, too.

Met a lovely young lady in a pharmacy. Spoke excellent English and was truly gorgeous. I made a point of needing something else the next night and we talked for a long time. Took her for a nice dinner after the pharm closed and she spent the night in my apartment. Nice touch, she brought a package of condoms from the pharmacy. She and I are on again for tonight. She refused taxi money...

Quite a number of streetwalkers. A fair number of them are ladyboys. I haven't assisted that economy but I did chat with one last night when she stopped me on my way to visit the waitresses. I feigned interest to ask her about prices. She said 1000 short time. I said no: 500 short time, 1000 long time and that I wanted anal. She said okay but 1500 for long time with anal. I stopped bargaining then because it would have been impolite to agree on a price and then not hire her but I'm sure I could have gotten it for 1200 or less.

Soapies have their own charm but, with the four girls I have keeping me busy, don't know if I'll get the chance to try one out. On the other hand, the GFE isn't for everyone. Someone once said you don't pay a hooker to have sex, you pay her to leave afterwards. Lotta truth in that.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

[Hari Hara]

I've been in Chiang Mai for about three weeks now. I haven't made it to the soapies, yet, and may not. I'm told the tourist season was miserable this year and many businesses are suffering. Sad to say, but the bad tourist season has gotten to the girls, too! What's economic bad news for girls is usually great news for guys and this is proving true. There is so much talent around it seems to be going for minimum prices and often just for a good time. I met two at a restaurant at lunchtime. A couple of text messages later (ya just GOTTA get a local mobile) and we decided to go to the zoo together. I'm mid 50s and had a delightful time walking around the zoo with a 30 year old on one side and a 24 year old on the other. The 3 year old spent the night. Think I could have had a threesome but I'm no teenager. One is plenty. Besides, Miss 24 took the next shift! Two nights fully appreciated for the price of three tickets to the zoo, dinner X 2 nights. Maybe 1500 baht. They had scooters so I didn't even have to pay for transport to the zoo or home in the mornings!


Even the legit massage places are slow. I went to one for a non-erotic massage (sore shoulder) and got a lot of inappropriate and thoroughly enjoyable stroking from a 27 year old. Picked her up at close of business, had a beer, went to HER room and spent most of the night. She even had a couple of Chang beers for us to share there. Money was never mentioned. I left a bit, though. If you'd seen where she lived, you would, too.

Met a lovely young lady in a pharmacy. Spoke excellent English and was truly gorgeous. I made a point of needing something else the next night and we talked for a long time. Took her for a nice dinner after the pharm closed and she spent the night in my apartment. Nice touch, she brought a package of condoms from the pharmacy. She and I are on again for tonight. She refused taxi money...

Quite a number of streetwalkers. A fair number of them are ladyboys. I haven't assisted that economy but I did chat with one last night when she stopped me on my way to visit the waitresses. I feigned interest to ask her about prices. She said 1000 short time. I said no: 500 short time, 1000 long time and that I wanted anal. She said okay but 1500 for long time with anal. I stopped bargaining then because it would have been impolite to agree on a price and then not hire her but I'm sure I could have gotten it for 1200 or less.

Soapies have their own charm but, with the four girls I have keeping me busy, don't know if I'll get the chance to try one out. On the other hand, the GFE isn't for everyone. Someone once said you don't pay a hooker to have sex, you pay her to leave afterwards. Lotta truth in that.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Wow that sounds lovely. I will be there in two weeks. I have never tried to pick up anyone as I was always concerned it would prove to be too troublesome later. that was Charlie Sheen who made the quote about paying them to leave afterward.

Where are you staying in CM? any recommendations?

happy trails

[PassinThrough]

I will be in Chiang Mai in about a week, if anyone is interested in meeting up for a beer let me know.

PIT

[Animby]

that was Charlie Sheen who made the quote about paying them to leave afterward.

Where are you staying in CM? any recommendations?Well, I guess Sheen would know.

I'm not all THAT happy with the place I'm staying though I've been in a lot worse. It really depends on how long you'll be here and what kind of accommodation you want. I knew I was going to be here for a while so I googled with a search term of something like "serviced apartments +Chiang Mai" - there are a ton of them. I'm paying about $350 per month and the maid comes in three times a week. But, I'm a far distance from the action, too. I like to walk but it's coming up on the rainy season so it's hot and humid. It's low season in a slow tourist year so feel free to bargain.

[Hari Hara]

I will be in Chiang Mai in about a week, if anyone is interested in meeting up for a beer let me know.

PIT

I will be in Chiangmai on the 7th. Would be nice to have a beer....I think I am there until the 11th.

Harihara

[Hippie]

I am currently scheduled to be there June 9-16, so if anyone wants to meet up, PM me. This will be my first trip to Chiang Mai so I will be doing a lot of exploring, both for P4P and just to get to know the area.

[Gangles]

The gf and I stayed at the Royal Lanna hotel for a few days in Chiang Mai. We could not have stood it for much longer – the beds are made of steel, very hard, sore back and bones. Pretty bare for the claimed 3 stars. But it was very clean, and the breakfast was OK. Has a pool which I did not check. Very close to the night bazaar, and right on Loi Kroh road. Girl friendly in that there is a side entrance where the staff cannot see you enter and go to the lifts. Late at night the side door is locked, but the main door is open, and all staff were asleep.

I checked out a small new place just off Loi Krok in a small soi with no name, the place was the Bau Tong Lodge, newly renovated rooms, very comfortable, aircon, small balcony, small sink in the room. Prices are 600, 700, 800 for progressively larger rooms. All are at a discount by 100 TBH in May this year (07). Very good value.

[Gangles]

My normal insomnia kicked in about 3 am one night. I decided to go for a walk to clear the mind and stretch the pained legs. I walked along Loi Kroh, to the first gate. Almost all businesses were closed of course. A few lady boys and WGs were about, so there is still action at that time of night. I crossed the bridge (Tai Pae?), and turned right along Mon Muang road. A number of wg’s were on offer. I crossed back at the next gate, and walked south along Chayaphum road. Lots of lady boys on offer. Then there was a sharp burst of heavy rain, so I dashed under a small verandah roof. There were two lady boys there, one a lump, but the other was small and gorgeous, with a high voice. He offered me a blow job, said he was the best smoker in the business. I said that was probably so, but I had no interest. I asked about the business, and was he normally on the streets at 3 am? He said yes, on the street all night. Short time, 1 hour, 400 TBH. Long time, all night, 1000 TBH. He said there were some male Thai customers, but most were falangs, out for a try. So there you are, a possibility of expanding the experience.

When the rain died down, I struck off again, back to Loi Kroh, turned left, back to the hotel. About 100 metres along, a youngish woman came out of a side lane and took my arm. Begged me to take her with me. Not like the usual approach. Out of interest, I asked her how much for short time and how much for long time. She looked at me blankly and said she did not know. Probably a newbie, cleanskin. Bastard that the gf was back in the room, I would have loved to investigate.

[PassinThrough]

I am currently scheduled to be there June 9-16, so if anyone wants to meet up, PM me. This will be my first trip to Chiang Mai so I will be doing a lot of exploring, both for P4P and just to get to know the area.


I am in ChiangMai now but only for a few days. if anyone is here and wants to meet let me know.

PIT

[Chedi]

New Star Palace on Mahidol Rd is a karaoke joint but their advertisement in mags states "karaoke & massage". And when I drive by, their sign reads "massage & sauna" and has a red arrow pointing down the soi.

Just wondering if anyone has tried the "massage or sauna" at New Star Palace? I personally don't have any experience with any of the karaoke joints in town other than the occasional drive by and seeing all the cute gals sitting outside (at least from a distance they look pretty yummy).

I'd check this place out myself but haven't had a chance. I'll report back if I do, in the meantime, anyone have any advance insight?

Much thanks

[Chedi]

New Star Palace on Mahidol Rd is a karaoke joint but their advertisement in mags states "karaoke & massage". And when I drive by, their sign reads "massage & sauna" and has a red arrow pointing down the soi.Correction:

Sign does not point you down a soi. It goes right into their large parking lot.

[Greed Is Good]

New Star Palace on Mahidol Rd is a karaoke joint but their advertisement in mags states "karaoke & massage". And when I drive by, their sign reads "massage & sauna" and has a red arrow pointing down the soi.

Just wondering if anyone has tried the "massage or sauna" at New Star Palace? I personally don't have any experience with any of the karaoke joints in town other than the occasional drive by and seeing all the cute gals sitting outside (at least from a distance they look pretty yummy).

I'd check this place out myself but haven't had a chance. I'll report back if I do, in the meantime, anyone have any advance insight?

Much thanksDear HW,

Have been to both the karaoke (biz clients) and the massage. Karaoke the typical place in CM popular with mostly asian customers. Pay for the room, pay for all mixers, ice, ladies time, etc. , etc. You can ring up quite a tab for some pretty average looking (although I have seen some stunners) poo yings. If you do click with any of the girls ask for their numbers and see if you can see them on their off days. A lot of are students looking for a sugar daddy to pay for a nice lifestyle.

The massage I go to on occasion. Not many pretty women (as of a month ago) but very good massages, Thai and Oil, in very sparten rooms. Better deals in town for massages. IMHO.

[Hippie]

Since nobody else seemed to have any ideas when I requested info on hotels under 1500 baht a night with Internet access, I'll report what I have found in the two days I have been here. Raming Lodge offered me a deluxe room with the all-inclusive package that includes wi-fi for 1500 as a walk in. By email, they had offered 1800.

A guy I was talking to said he was paying about that at Central Duangtawan, but had not used the Internet so he did not know how well it worked.

I found a few guest houses in the 500-600 baht per night range that had wi-fi in the rooms, and some of them had rooms that were almost the equal of the deluxe room at the Raming that I looked at.


Another nice guesthouse where I have stayed is www.hollandamontri.com
After seeing this post, I checked the link and booked a room there. The staff is very nice and the riverside cafe is quite pleasant, and serves good Thai food. However, I checked out after 2 days. The location is too isolated. There are no other restaurants or convenience stores in the immediate area, and it is too far rom the nightlife, and it took me over 30 minutes to get a tuk tuk both evenings (easier in the day time). I could rent a motorcycle, but then there is the issue of what to do with it after I have been drinking. Also, the room is too basic for my taste and does not compare well to other guest houses I checked out.

As more and more hotels and guest houses are starting to install wi-fi, I suggest anyone coming here for the first time just book one of the hotels I listed (or the D2 or other more expensive place) then walk around the neighborhood you want to be in and look for alternatives. It worked for me, but of course this is low season so just about every place has rooms available.

[Aussiebloke453]

Since nobody else seemed to have any ideas when I requested info on hotels under 1500 baht a night with Internet access, I'll report what I have found in the two days I have been here. Raming Lodge offered me a deluxe room with the all-inclusive package that includes wi-fi for 1500 as a walk in. By email, they had offered 1800.

A guy I was talking to said he was paying about that at Central Duangtawan, but had not used the Internet so he did not know how well it worked.

I found a few guest houses in the 500-600 baht per night range that had wi-fi in the rooms, and some of them had rooms that were almost the equal of the deluxe room at the Raming that I looked at.


After seeing this post, I checked the link and booked a room there. The staff is very nice and the riverside cafe is quite pleasant, and serves good Thai food. However, I checked out after 2 days. The location is too isolated. There are no other restaurants or convenience stores in the immediate area, and it is too far rom the nightlife, and it took me over 30 minutes to get a tuk tuk both evenings (easier in the day time). I could rent a motorcycle, but then there is the issue of what to do with it after I have been drinking. Also, the room is too basic for my taste and does not compare well to other guest houses I checked out.

As more and more hotels and guest houses are starting to install wi-fi, I suggest anyone coming here for the first time just book one of the hotels I listed (or the D2 or other more expensive place) then walk around the neighborhood you want to be in and look for alternatives. It worked for me, but of course this is low season so just about every place has rooms available.Hippie,

Any problems with bringing ladies back?

Where did you find any ladies:?

Cheer,

Fleetz

[Hippie]

Hippie,

Any problems with bringing ladies back?

Where did you find any ladies:?

Cheer,

Fleetz
No problems at the places I checked, although one did mention there is a max of one guest allowed in the room at any time. So far, the best places I have seen to pick up girls are CEC, Spicy, and Hot Spot, the disco next to Bubbles. However, I still have a lot of exploring to do.

[Member #2041]

No problems at the places I checked, although one did mention there is a max of one guest allowed in the room at any time. So far, the best places I have seen to pick up girls is CEC, Spicy, and Hot Spot, the disco next to Bubbles.

Careful at some of the places in CEC. At a couple of them, the meat comes with far too much bone.

[Hippie]

Careful at some of the places in CEC. At a couple of them, the meat comes with far too much bone.
I only saw one club--in the back by the boxing ring, on the left--with definite lady boys, and they were very obvious. There was another club where a couple of girls looked as if they might be katoeys, but they were unappealing enough that I did not bother to get close enough to verify.

I have extended my trip until June 23 in order to more thoroughly explore Chiang Mai. I really like this town so far and I am considering moving here in a couple of months. If anyone wants to meet, just PM me.

[Chedi]

Correction:

Sign does not point you down a soi. It goes right into their large parking lot.FWIW: Place is now called "Boss Club and Karaoke"...not to be confused with "Bossy" over on ChiangMaiLand Rd.

[Animby]

Was walking up Loh Kroy road from the night market tonight. Just wandering when I saw a bar/grill/massage joint called the Thirsty Beaver. I couldn't resist asking the staff if they knew what a beaver was (the sign showed an illustration of the animal not the furry Y) and to get some idea of what was on offer. An attractive young lady (Noi) enticed me into the joint and, although the bar area was okay, it was pretty seedy in the back rooms. Not the worst I've been rubbed in, though.

I have to say, the oil massage was just about the most amateurish I've ever been through in Thailand. Promisingly, about two minutes into the rubdown, she asked me if I was shy. I said no and she whipped the towel off my crotch. A minute later, she touched my dick and asked if I wanted her to massage it. Uh, let's get through the two hour massage I'd asked for, first. Five minutes later, she picked up my dick again and asked me if I wanted her to massage it. Uh, let's do it later, okay? Five or six minutes and she's asking again. Not until the end, I finally convinced her.

About halfway through, I teasingly asked the 28 year old Isaan girl if SHE was shy. Not shy, she assured me. So, I suggested she remove her shirt. "How much you give me?" Uh, how much you want? "Other customers give me 500 baht." For 500, I said, I'd expect you to take off ALL your clothes and go short time with me. She laughed. I let it drop.

Somewhere around the hour and a half mark, she was once again picking at my dick and I agreed to let her massage it, fully expecting her to ask me for a 1000 baht. (No. I would not have paid anywhere near that amount.) She may have done it before but I'll bet no customer ever enjoyed it. Very clumsy. I simply could not get into and stopped her before deploying my load.

All in all a very disappointing massage experience.

I stopped Noi and told her flat out her technique was not very good. I took her hand and showed her how to stroke a cock. Then I thought, as long as she was actually paying attention, I'd show her some other things. I used my own anatomy to point out how to stroke and fondle the balls. Then I had her lay face down and I showed her how I like to have my perineum massaged.

About then, another person entered the room to get a massage (the mats were separated only by curtains) and I decided I'd had enough. Noi seemed truly happy that I'd taught her some techniques and promised to remember them for my next trip. I wasn't really planning to go back but I might just to see if she does put the lessons into practice.

So, if any of you drop by the Thirsty Beaver, and if you get Noi, and if you enjoy the way she handles your balls and rubs your perineum, and if she strokes your cock in a halfway decent manner, you owe your thanks to me. However, the massage WAS miserable. So, if you do go there, I'd suggest you try one of the older, more experienced ladies. Or, probably a better idea, try Anni's across the street.

Oh, price: 200 baht/hour for oil massage and I did tip her. Normally, I'd tip 100 baht per hour but, in this case, I only tipped 100 for the whole thing. It really was a bad massage and I figured the most value delivered was the info I gave her! Should have charged her.

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[Acerboy]

A guy I was talking to said he was paying about that at Central Duangtawan, but had not used the Internet so he did not know how well it worked.
Central Duangtawan you will need to pay for the internet usage and it is not cheap.Can't remember how much exactly. If you stay there, turn left when you are out of the lobby and head for a coffee shop which is at the cross road. Name of coffee shop is Cafe Siam if I'm not wrong. You can use the wifi there even for free if you don't mind standing or sitting out on the street. Or you can have a drink or a foot massage next door which is run by them. Do take note the Cafe Siam charges you if you want to charge your notebook but not the massage place.

[Hippie]

Was walking up Loh Kroy road from the night market tonight. Just wandering when I saw a bar/grill/massage joint called the Thirsty Beaver. I couldn't resist asking the staff if they knew what a beaver was (the sign showed an illustration of the animal not the furry Y) and to get some idea of what was on offer. An attractive young lady (Noi) enticed me into the joint and, although the bar area was okay, it was pretty seedy in the back rooms. Not the worst I've been rubbed in, though.
I went there last week because I saw a very cute girl (Noi?) outside while walking by on my way to Guitarman. The club was dead so I came back and decided to go for the massage. Unfortunately, once we were inside the cute girl passed me off to another one who was not attractive (none of the girls inside were), so I left.

[Animby]

I went there last week because I saw a very cute girl (Noi?) outside while walking by on my way to Guitarman. The club was dead so I came back and decided to go for the massage. Unfortunately, once we were inside the cute girl passed me off to another one who was not attractive (none of the girls inside were), so I left.I gave Noi the benefit of the doubt and stopped in again. The massage still sucked a big one but her touching and stroking of the genitals was improved. THOUGH STILL BAD! This time I made a mistake and talked her out of her clothes. The body was not bad though she was quick to point out it's flaws. Boobs a bit saggy. Nipples "too big. " Stretch marks on her tummy. None of which I agreed with. Oddly, though, she seemed to lack and muscle tone. Everywhere was soft. Tummy. Bum. Legs. Arms. Not to my particular liking. Anyway, once the clothes came off, the massage devolved into a sales pitch to go upstairs with her. Short time = 1500 baht! No way. I only said maybe next time so as to not stop the mediocre handjob I was receiving. But, in truth, it was so poor, I stopped her and left early. Your comment about the rest of the girls not being very attractive is definitely true. I won't be going back. I can't imagine she'the be any better on her back than in the massage room. For that kind of money, you'the be a lot better off getting your short time at Sayuri.

[Asian John]

Thanks for the report, I went looking for the bar/massage joint the other day. Couldn't find the Thirsty Beaver on Loi Kroh Road. I saw the Hungry Horse, but not the Thirsty Beaver. Can you give directions, or another land mark? I was staying at the Duangtawan Hotel, then at the Raming Lodge Hotel. Thanks!


I gave Noi the benefit of the doubt and stopped in again. The massage still sucked a big one but her touching and stroking of the genitals was improved. THOUGH STILL BAD! This time I made a mistake and talked her out of her clothes. The body was not bad though she was quick to point out it's flaws. Boobs a bit saggy. Nipples "too big. " Stretch marks on her tummy. None of which I agreed with. Oddly, though, she seemed to lack and muscle tone. Everywhere was soft. Tummy. Bum. Legs. Arms. Not to my particular liking. Anyway, once the clothes came off, the massage devolved into a sales pitch to go upstairs with her. Short time = 1500 baht! No way. I only said maybe next time so as to not stop the mediocre handjob I was receiving. But, in truth, it was so poor, I stopped her and left early. Your comment about the rest of the girls not being very attractive is definitely true. I won't be going back. I can't imagine she'the be any better on her back than in the massage room. For that kind of money, you'the be a lot better off getting your short time at Sayuri.

[Forever69]

AJ,

Coming from duangtawan take loi kro towards night bazaar,cross it and keep going until you don't believe it anymore and then some, thirsty beaver will be on the right, guitarman to the left.oil massage is 200/hr, happy ending no more than an extra 300. Dont f**k up the prices! the 300 are the tip already.

Not a bad deal really.looking for more -give a shout.

[Kangoo1]

not mean to start a flame, but coma boy is the kind of guys that make sunshine out of bull shit and seriously damage the credibility of the forum. does he ever consider how many guys spend their hard earned money to come to cm mostly because they believe what he said?

picking up a girl from street / mall / non-hooker bar is very very difficult, if not impossible. the language barrier is the major hurdle, for most cm people speak zero english. so even if a girl is interested in you, there’s no way to communicate, and two people can’t just stare at each other forever.

bear in mind, any single foreign male in cm is presumably a sex tourist until proven otherwise. like it or not, that’s the locals’ view. if you were a hansuman in your country, would you consider dating an old fat thai female sex tourist?

cm women are beautiful. but, you won’t see them in pay&play places. in such places, most of the women are from chiang rai. they are short, fat, dark, buck-teethed, not at all as attractive as cm women. again, their english level is so low that they only expect you pay, play, then leave.

so what are your options?

go go bars and beer bars: ugly girls, play and pay. if you don’t like nana girls, then don’t bother.

lady houses: rep001tered across town. open early, both st and lt are available. girls look better than those in go go bars but still shitty. the biggest issue is you pay up front. once you pay, you loose power. don’t expect much and you’ll be happy.

mp: fat chicks, not worth the money.

freelancer bars: notably bubbles. most girls there are off shift bar girls, a few “regular girls” looking for farangs for whatever reasons.

karaokes: have the best looking girls in the pay&play places. unfortunately, they want to extract as many lady drinks as they can before they tell you they don’t go with customers.

there are several high class discos full of grade a babes. but, unless you are fluent in thai, young and look brat pitt, you can only watch the eye candy. mind you, these girls are from well to do families. they go to the clubs in mercedes and drop a few thousand baht a night, easily.hi,

i'm new here and planning to visit cm.

what is lady house? are located near the duangtawan hotel/night bazaar?

pls help

[Animby]

I'm new here and planning to visit CM. A quick search indicates Mr Satang is hard to please and I can't find any posts for over a year. Maybe he's long gone. The description of Chiang Mai you quoted, certainly doesn't resemble the CM I'm living in now. Nope: this isn't Bangkok. And that's okay by me. Never liked Bangkok when I lived there. Most of the working girls in BKK and CM are from Isaan. They tend to short and dark. And some are good looking. Some are dogs. You're a hell of a lot more likely to find an EX working girl here, someone who gave up on the BKK or Pataya scene, moved closer to home and is working in a shop or restaurant here. Treat them nicely and you might get lucky. Probably not on the first (or second) date but eventually. And often without even asking for cab fare.

If you're only here for a short visit, there's are plenty of working girls (and boys) on Loi Kroh road or around the Thae Pae Gate. Can't help you with info on the lady houses. Never used them. COme to CM and have a good time. There's lots to see and do. If you're absolutely nothing but a sex tourist, then there are a few soapy massage places and lots of P4P ops ranging from a handjob in a massage parlor to long time with a loverly bar girl. If that's not enough, then stay in BKK or Pattaya. You'the be happier there if sex is your only requirement.

[Forever69]

There are actually two on kampangdin rd heading south from loi kroh one next to star one and the other next to tu (? ) massage farther south still which has been described befor in cm reports. Rtff.as usual.

Thay do not have a sign "lady house" though.

[Animby]

Thay do not have a sign "lady house" though.Don't recall reading anything particularly nice about the lady houses. Anything good to report, Islandboy?

[Forever69]

As far as I am concerned it is more a thai affair. But if you are so inclined the adventure will be yours. A quick romp will set you back 700bt. Just don't expect conversation or a blowjob.

[Asian John]

AJ,

Coming from duangtawan take loi kro towards night bazaar,cross it and keep going until you don't believe it anymore and then some, thirsty beaver will be on the right, guitarman to the left.oil massage is 200/hr, happy ending no more than an extra 300. Dont f**k up the prices! the 300 are the tip already.

Not a bad deal really.looking for more -give a shout.Thanks for the info Islandboy. I took a stroll (per your instructions) down to Thirsty Beaver around noon. There were only 2 ladies on massage duty, and both looked in there late-forties. One was pretty fat and a bit ugly (big boobs tho), but definitely not for me. The other had a scowl on her face, and wasn't much better looking (thinner though). So, I didn't partake at Thirsty Beaver's.- perhaps I should visit later in the afternoon or evening.- I'm sure there would be a better selection.- I'll try later on and report.

Question: Anyone every been to Star XiX? (not Star One). This is a place that is upstairs.- off of Loi Kroh road.- across an alley from the Thai Kick boxing bars. Is this a Karaoke joint? P4P? Go-go?

Also, the lady house next to Star One. I've walked by there several times.- doesn't seem to "farang" friendly? The door is definitely non-descript and always closed. I've been tempted to open the (sometimes bolted) door and walk in.- but haven't had the nerve. Just wanted to confirm that this was indeed a P4P farang friendly place.

Oh yea, I ended my afternoon at a massage place around the corner from the Duangtawan Hotel (along the same street as Star One).- got a nice hand job finish by a younger girl. She even took her shirt off and allowed me to finger her. 500 baht (200 baht massage fee included)

Thanks guys!

[Forever69]

The place next to star one opens late, maybe nine or so. It is a thai place but they will take your business. There is another one on the same side of the road to the south. Cross the big road go past thai massage place with big white and blue sign, lots of tuk tuks and young guys outside it has a thai sign and is supposed to be a karaoke place and says welcome on the door which means just that. Star six is a gogo with 150.. At the door for the first beer. It is also frequented by locals but will accommodate you and is much raunchier than spotlight or foxy lady, you buy a lady drink and they will put your hand down their panties and what ever else it takes to get you to take them out. At least that was the way last time I went which is some time ago. The beaver will have more girls later, lets say 6 pm although there was only one and a half goodlooking ones last time I was there. Just sit outside with them have a beer and see for yourself. Let us know how you do-I have the good wife here and keep a low profile.

[Member #3428]

Was in BKK for a working visit and we spent one night in CHIANG Mai. We were housed at the Imperial Mae Ping and it was a really old old hotel and the put me with tiny twin beds and no internet connection. For one night, and after playing in BKK I didn't care much.

Went out to Old Chiangmai Cultural Center for dinner and it's a sit on the floor type dinner with a show put on the stage by more of hill tribe type cultural show. The food was OK and the show was OK. There was a second show after dinner but we ran off to the bazzar instead. That night we went behind the Imperial Mae Ping where there was a street of bars with touts out and there really wasn't much action going on but there was a thai kick boxing ring and limited fights going on, not really hard core but something to watch. As we didn't find much we walked back to the hotel and on the road to the hotel we were approached by ladies asking if we wanted company. They were nothing special so we went a little further to some shacks across the street.

There were two entrances and we asked the one on the left if we could get a beer and she said sorry, only women, so we went to the right and had a few beers and ended up picking up some girls from this little shack and taking them back to the room. Cheap, nothing special, and nothing I want to report about as it was basically service yourself which I happily did.

The next day we went to Baan-Tawai Handicraft Cluster which was excellent. Got to see the housing units making a lot of the crafts and picked up some excellent large crafts that we had to ship home. I would go back and spend more time at Baan-Tawai if I could. For lunch we went to La Gritta Italian Restaurant at the Amari Rincome Hotel and it was an excellent meal and would highly recommend folks to go there for meals if they are in Chiang Mai. After that, we flew back to BKK. Less then 20 hours in chiang mai.

[Chedi]

Question: Anyone every been to Star XiX? (not Star One). This is a place that is upstairs.- off of Loi Kroh road.- across an alley from the Thai Kick boxing bars. Is this a Karaoke joint? P4P? Go-go?Aj, StarSix (StarXIX) next to CEC is a go-go. They charge an entrance fee of 150 baht which includes your first drink. As mentioned, the place caters more to an asian clientele but I've seen farangs (usually solo not in a group) in there having a good time as well.

Barfine is 500 baht and ST is 1000-1500 baht. If you don't have a hotel, the girl will take you around the corner to on LK Soi 3 for 350 baht room or 150 baht for a room further down the soi. Do NOT go for the 150 room! Place is a total dive, gross and does not put you in any mood but to get the hell outta there. Spend the extra 200 baht. Very nice, clean room. StarSix does not have rooms on premise, too bad.

I was there last week and at least 75% of the chicks were pretty hot. They remind me more of the girls you see at the karaoke joints rather than spotlight, foxylady or bargirls. The StarSix girls also wear outfits which I think is cool but can be confusing since the place is dark and many of the girls look very similar. If you see one you like be sure to get her tag number! Not all the girls are aggressive. If one you like is just hanging out with other girls or just got off the stage, you can ask the nice fella walking around for her to come sit by ya.

Ladydrinks are 80 baht and groping seems to be encouraged to inspect the goods. The girls a hung out with all seemed to speak a decent amount of english. I eventually BF #7, one of the girls that does a steamy shower show. Great smile, tight body. Good chemistry. If you want to go there to just check it out, have a drink, and watch the girls. I've never been hassled for that. Enjoy!

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[Forever69]

La giotta. The Italian restaurant behind Starbucks on tha Phae Gate!

Stay clear of the thai cooking when in Chiang Mai, especially the northern cuisine and enjoy mediocre pizza and cheap red wine at inflated prices-there's also a Mc Donald's at the night bazaar, for the real gourmets.

But if you're on a budget and don't know the city try Daret House, John's Cozy Corner near there, or Oasis at Tha Phae Soi 2 for good Thai and other food.

[NicFrenchy]

Stay clear of the thai cooking when in Chiang Mai, especially the northern cuisineWhat a load of Bullshit! there are virtually hundreds of Awesome places in Chiang Mai to eat Cheap, Delicious Thai Food. Especially Northern Specialities.

You'd have to be a complete moron to go to Chiang Mai for Pizza and Hamburgers.

[Kurtweiler]

La giotta. The Italian restaurant behind Starbucks on tha Phae Gate!

Stay clear of the thai cooking when in Chiang Mai, especially the northern cuisine and enjoy mediocre pizza and cheap red wine at inflated prices-there's also a Mc Donald's at the night bazaar, for the real gourmets.

But if you're on a budget and don't know the city try Daret House, John's Cozy Corner near there, or Oasis at Tha Phae Soi 2 for good Thai and other food.Don't be stupid. Some of the best thai food is to be found in North Thailand and also in Chian Mai. You'll find a lot of restaurants in the city and also outside the city where you can buy very good thai food to very reasonable prices.

[Member #2041]

NicFrenchy, I guess that picking up on obvious sarcasm is not really your strong suit.

[NicFrenchy]

NicFrenchy, I guess that picking up on obvious sarcasm is not really your strong suit.(feeling Stupid)

I guess not then.

[M P Lurker]

Stay clear of the thai cooking when in Chiang Mai, especially the northern cuisine and enjoy MEDIOCRE pizza and CHEAP red wine at INFLATED prices-there's also a Mc DONALD's at the night bazaar, FOR THE REAL GORMETs.

Come on guys there are major glaring clues here! has too much screwing addled your brains, or is it different country's culture makes you enterpret English differently.

Get your brain/hand off that pussy/(your dick) for a moment and read properly.

[Asian John]

thought i'the post another report on thirsty beaver. i posted earlier that i went around noon a few weeks past and there were no prospects (except for 2 really old women.- not very appetizing). anyways, i revisited the place twice around 4pm'ish.

i have a rather interesting experience to report.

i walk in, and see a few more girls. i pick the youngest.- "nee" or "nid".- she says she's 25 with no kids. she has an average body (definitely not fat), and ok smile (not the prettiest face). we proceed to the massage room and she encloses me in a small section of the room with drapes that are sealed with velcro or snaps. it seems like a "legit" massage room, so i just disrobe to my boxers. when she walks in, she asks for me to remove my boxers and turn over (butt facing up). i obey, and she proceeds to give me a light massage of the back of my legs. i turn over, and the same for the front of my legs and thighs. she's just about to put oil on my upper torso, and i pull her hand to my cock. she says "500 baht? ". i say noooo, 300 baht! she strongly pushes 500 baht. i again say that i've been there before (lie) and always pay 300 baht. she doesn't budge. i then make a motion of "ok 500 baht", but you have to take off your shirt and bra. she says "no no".- another 500 baht for me to feel her tits. she says she won't take her shirt off. i speak conversational thai and say, that's a little expensive for just a hand job and feel-up. i was about to say "no deal", but right as i was about to close negotiations, she sticks my cock in her mouth. i've had at least a hundred blow jobs in chiang mai. and this girl ranks in the top 2 at least. wow. perfect technique, no condom, she sucks on my balls, to the side up and down the shaft, deep throat, no hands, with hands, maintains eye contact, slurps a little etc. etc. after a teaser, she says, 1, 000 baht for her to finish. as high as the price is, i relented for her to go on (sorry guys, i'm a sucker for a good blow job). but despite the porno style blow job, she doesn't let me know touch her breasts under her shirt nor even rub her pussy outside of her shorts (kinda wierd). i cum in her mouth, she doesn't swallow, but doesn't spit out immediately also. she holds the cum in her mouth, smiles for about 20 seconds, hits me playfully like, "you came in my mouth! ". then spits it out in a towel.

the next day. i return for another fabulous blow job. it's around noon, and nee is upstairs (i asked for her upon entering). she comes down and greets me with a hug and smile.- the older ladies are giggling. she starts with a light massage of my legs. i'm already hard, then she starts stroking my cock. then, the wierdest thing. she starts to deep french kiss me. she says she really likes me. this goes on for about 10 minutes. a light oil hand job, while we dfk. i think.- maybe she'll let me fuck her? i start to make a move for her tits under her shirt, but she stops me. i playfully make a move again (while we're dfk'ing) and she stops me again. i then make a motion for her to suck me again. she says "no". i offer the usual 1, 000 baht, and she says "no"? she then wraps her legs around me so that my cock is pointed to her pussy covered by her shorts (we're facing each other) and she's jacking me off with two hands. she then relents and let's me stroke her tits under her shirt. i again ask for a blow job and she says no with a playful smile. i ask if we can fuck a little (nit noi) and she says no. i offer her 1, 000 baht, then 1, 500 baht for a fuck, she still says no with a playful smile. i feel like i'm in high school, trying to get a little from my tease of a girlfriend. but between her young breasts, great hand job and dfk'ing, i shoot cum on her shorts. i paid her a 300 baht tip and started to leave. as i was leaving, she slipped me her phone number.

i'm not sure why. it just seems like a stangely inconsistent experience between the 2 days. both in terms of price and serivces offered. my conclusion for now is that she's not a typical p4p provider as she was always making sure the drapes were completely shut and no one was in the room when we were engaged. when i was leaving, i saw a much more attractive chick putting make up on.

not sure i'll return anytime soon. next stop: star xix!

thanks for the info on the thirsty beaver guys.

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[Forever69]

If you pm me we could have a beer and I can point your nose into a few other winds too if you are in need. Nice report on thirsty be. I went there last night for a beer but did not spot the girl you described, let us know how you fare at Star Six

[Animby]

AJ, thanks for the report. Interesting experience in a place with an inconsistent attitude and a severe shortage of attractive ladies. I'm surprised the management doesn't bring in some new (younger, cuter) talent. The place is basically a waste of time, in my opinion.

But, try to keep your head. Negotiating price when your dick is in hand is too late. We are in the off season in Chiang Mai in a year when tourism has been suffering in any case. Prices should be going down not up!

Be interested n your Star XIX experience. I was there once, briefly, after (IIRR) 150 baht cover charge that bought the first drink. The place was way to loud and way too dark for my taste. Three or four well-covered women on a stage dancing with no apparent interest in dancing. Other women, who didn't really strike me as very attractive (maybe the reason they keep the place so dark?) trying to engage the clientèle and, it seemed, doing a restrained sort of a lapdance. I didn't stay beyond my first beer.

Have heard two reports: Keep your hand on your wallet and check for ladyboys. Caveat Emptor.

[Lovely 69]

I found this fine ride at the Tapae Market (Sunday Night)

[Kittycat]

I found this fine ride at the Tapae Market (Sunday Night)Look like lady boy for me.

(Sorry about that, bad experience..last time in Bangkok)

Pinky

[NicFrenchy]

Look like lady boy for me.Unlikely, very unlikely.

[Kittycat]

Unlikely, very unlikely.Well Bro,

Hmmmm, maybe.

Pinky

[Takamine1]

Dear All,

After having a rocking time in pattaya and BKK, taka heads for the unknown in Chiang Mai.

ACCOMODATION: I travelled by train. It's a long journey but can be interesting depending on who you meet. Once at Chiang Mai you will meet various touts asking to take you to this or that guesthouse. There is even a board with the names of the various guesthouses. My coice was Lai Thai close to the moat. At 670B/night it's not too bad. The swimming pool is great.

THINGS TO DO: If you're a newbie take time to check out various tours..I would go for the Golden Triangle Tour and one day Trekking. Lots to see, lots to do..
FOOD: Unlike what was reported recently in the forum, Thai food in Chiang Mai is excellent.

MONGERING: When I planned my trip, I didn't envisage visiting Chiang Mai but i found my way around. There are many beer bars, especially those located around the Thai Boxing Ring. Bar Fines are around 400B with girls asking from 1000B-1500B/long time. If they ask for more put down the price and remain firm (always smiling of course).

Foxy Lady: Found the place by chance, entered, settled down with a drink and made my choice...a very good looking Chiang Mai girl (paler complexion etc). I pay for the bar fine and negotiate at 1500B/longtime. On my way out the Mamasan tells me to take care of her since i am her first ever customer....oh dear....how does a newbie deal with another newbie? At the hotel she got the hang of it (no pun intended) and we had a good time (but not fantastic).

Beer bars located around boxing ring: There are many girls here to choose from. Eventually I hit on this bubbly character with a great smile. I BF her and take her LT (1200B). A real GFE followed with extras for good measure.

Star XIX: Not particularly impressed. As was stated in one of the reports the place is dark, the music is too loud and while there are good looking chicks, they seem to be more interested in themselves than in you. thus I gave it a pass

Next installment tomorrow (hopefully)

Till the take care

Taka

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[Animby]

FOOD: Unlike what was reported recently in the forum, Thai food in Chiang Mai is excellent.I think the report on bad food was misunderstood by several people. The writer had his tongue firmly in cheek. The food here is excellent and very reasonably priced.

The true gourmand will be excited to hear we now have not only a Mcdonald's but a Burger King! Can Wendy's and In'and'Out be far behind? Swensons, Baskin Robbins, Pizza Hut, Starbucks, Dunkin Donuts, Subway. All here. Who could ask for anything more?

Seriously, beats me why people pay 90 baht for a chain burger when they can get a delicious pad thai for less than 30! Why do tourists only eat in tourist spots? Hell, you'll be home next month. Get a pizza then. For now, have a green curry. Pop a fish ball in your mouth. Try something new, dammit. You might find you like it.

[Jeremy]

I think the report on bad food was misunderstood by several people. The writer had his tongue firmly in cheek. The food here is excellent and very reasonably priced.

The true gourmand will be excited to hear we now have not only a Mcdonald's but a Burger King! Can Wendy's and In'and'Out be far behind? Swensons, Baskin Robbins, Pizza Hut, Starbucks, Dunkin Donuts, Subway. All here. Who could ask for anything more?

Seriously, beats me why people pay 90 baht for a chain burger when they can get a delicious pad thai for less than 30! Why do tourists only eat in tourist spots? Hell, you'll be home next month. Get a pizza then. For now, have a green curry. Pop a fish ball in your mouth. Try something new, dammit. You might find you like it.Totally agree with your post. I love Thai food, almost all of them, spicy or not.
For not more than 200baht, I can have a feast of ka moo( pork knuckles), khao mun gai, pad thai, hoi tort(fried oysters fried wih egg) and a large Singha.And there's noone to rush you. The Thais around will enjoy watching you eat. They may even buy you more.

Jeremy

[Farmboy5]

I am an American living in Shanghai and planning first trip to Chiang Mai soon. I want to look the area over as a possible place to retire in a year or so.

Will be staying 1-2 weeks and would like to find a nice not too expensive guest house which is GF for occasional visits by local P4P providers.

I have read the forum about hotels etc. but don't see exactly what I am looking for.

Anybody in the Chinag Mai area have any recommendations?

[Oosik1]

I am an American living in Shanghai and planning first trip to Chiang Mai soon. I want to look the area over as a possible place to retire in a year or so.

Will be staying 1-2 weeks and would like to find a nice not too expensive guest house which is GF for occasional visits by local P4P providers.

I have read the forum about hotels etc. but don't see exactly what I am looking for.

Anybody in the Chinag Mai area have any recommendations?

First thing to consider is where you want to locate......what part of the city. I have stayed at the Hollanda Montri Guest House on the river.....reasonable price, small outdoor bar/restaurant, decent rooms. On the north side of the wall, just inside the wall and very near Thai Airlines ticketing office is the Queen Victoria Inn, run by a very agreeable English chap. GREAT place to eat, especially Sunday noon buffet. Or, try using guest house listings on www.chiangmai1.com/chiang_mai/guesthouses_in_chiang_mai.shtml (this doesn't want to appear here correctly, so look for guesthouse listing on website)
I would suggest you study a map, pick your preferred location, then locate your guest house. Depending on how persnickety you are, there are many decent places to stay at reasonable prices. Oh, also check out Wiyira House. I know they are guest friendly.

[Vinny_Viagra]

I am guilty. A few years back I took my family to Thailand. One stop was in Chiang Mai. It was the 4th or 5th day into our self directed tour. The previous few days were spent in Bangkok. We had eaten lots of Thai food by then and we were still in need of the grease, surgar and perservative that have addicted us. We needed the full stuffed feeling that only a Big Mac and fries would give us. We all love Thai food just had not adapted to eating 4 or 5 times a day and eating a more healthy Thai diet. We had not beaten our addiction...you know the one that makes our asses and stomach so huge.

I did note the many Thais in Mac D's when we went there. Seems like they are getting addicted too. The big seller was the soft ice cream...also loaded with fat and sugar. I note to that the Thai wastelines are on the increase as well. Maybe we have exported too much of our junk food. Years ago you would never see a fat Thai. I have read that heart desease is on the rise in most Asian cities as well.

[Asian John]

As promised, here's my Star XIX Report:

I went on Sept 14th (Friday). I got there when it just opened (around 8:20PM). I climbed up the narrow staircases leading to the bar. The staircases were very colorfully painted, I felt like I was a fun-house in an amusement park -- to add, at the top of the staircase was a little booth with a sign saying "150" -- admission cost. Since I was so early, I just nudged the door open and walked in (no one was at the booth). I was quite surprised how big the place was when I walked in. I was expected a nasty/slimy little go-go bar. But instead, it was not as small as I imagined.

As I walked in, I saw about 5 girls walking to-and-fro. The lights were all on. A couple of the girls were topless as they getting ready for showtime. A fatter girl came up to me. I asked if they were open yet and if I could stay. She said, yes, we're running behind, but please come in. Immediately, they turned out the lights and started the music. I ordered a beer.

I found a nice dark corner to relax in. Based on earlier reports, some major feel-up action was the norm at this place. I continued to see girls walking in front of me topless as they were putting on their kinky uniforms still -- they all were a little surprised to see me. There must have been about 10-12 girls by 8:30PM.

They all started to dance together. I got a good look. Ages seemed to range from 21 to 35. Looks: 5-8 (I think I spotted 1 "nine" looker). I was again surprised to see a few 8's. After all the girls danced for a song, they all left stage and began to dance and rotate on the large stage 3 at a time. The other girls just roamed or went to the back. I was surprised that the place is pretty laid back -- no pressure sales tactics. Every now and then, one of the girls would walk slowly by you and make eye contact, pause for a moment, then keep walking as if to give you a good look and option to ask her for a drink. If you maintain eye contact or look interested, they will ask for a drink, but never persist if you say no. About 5 girls did this. I bought lady drinks for 3. The first, a short girl (about a 6.5 - 25 years old) with large breasts for her size. For 90 baht, I bought her a lady drink (pretty cheap, perhaps it was happy hour?). Her english was okay, but I was very forward in feeling her up. I wrapped my hand around her waist, then up to her breasts. She immediately put her hand on my leg. After about 5 minutes of this, I made a move with my right hand staight to her breasts. Surprisingly, she just lifted up her bikini-top so I could see and feel them. It was quite dark unfortunatelly, but they were perfect tits. I then asked if she was shaved, as I made a move for her pussy. She pulled down her bikini bottoms a bit so I could feel her pussy. She immediately asked if I'd like to take her to my room -- 500 baht bar fine, 1,500 baht short time. I declined as I wanted to feel up more chicks. Out of curiousity, I asked if we could fuck in another room in the bar or at the bar (perhaps get some dark-corner bj action akin to Star of Light in Bangkok??). But she laughed and said no.

She left to go dance. I repeated this with 2 other girls. On the third, she was a little extra horny-like. She was 22, her name was Gai -- perfectly sized and perky tits (I'm a tit guy). She let me feel her up a little more. She grabbed my cock and was rubbing it for a long time. She even briefly sat on my lap for a lap dance to one of the songs. She DFK'd me for awhile. I took her back to my room. 500 baht barfine / 1,500 baht ST.

It's dark in Star XIX. When I returned to my room, the "8" that I saw in Star XiX was downgraded to a "7". But the firmness of her body and tits remained the same (no children). I took a shower. We did a lot of foreplay in the shower -- kissing and fingering. We moved to the bed where she CBJ'd then rode me nicely (her pussy was pretty snug). Doggy style for a little while. Then, finished in missionary position as I squeeezed her tits together.

I wasn't expecting to take a girl home, I just wanted to see and experience the place. But with all the stroking and feeling-up in the bar, it was hard NOT to.... All in all, I was impressed by the place. I seem to like it MUCH better than Spotlight, and the place was a little bigger than Foxy.

Thanks again guys for the info!

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[Erik]

Asian John,
Interesting report of Star SIX. I have taken a few girls myself there, they don't often have stunners, but it happens. Ashame you seem to have agreed to pay 1500 for ST, the usual market levl here is 1000, even for the stunners !

[Run Mann]

Spent 3 days in Chiang Mai, stayed at Raming Lodge and was not all that impressed. You can get a better rate than the published rates on their website by emailing or calling them. I got the deluxe room for 1700B as opposed to the 2500B listed on the web. The deluxe rooms should be about 1000B at best even with the free internet service. Raming lodge does offer free transportation to and from the airport and the drivers/bellmen seem to be knowledgeable in getting you whatever you want. I had company so could not do much but the hotel is in a good central location with many bars and massage shops near-by. Raming Lodge is not bad for a day or two but as others have said the guest houses in town are probably better deals. http://www.raminglodge.com/

[Member #2041]

Spent 3 days in Chiang Mai, stayed at Raming Lodge and was not all that impressed. You can get a better rate than the published rates on their website by emailing or calling them. I got the deluxe room for 1700B as opposed to the 2500B listed on the web. The deluxe rooms should be about 1000B at best even with the free internet service. Raming lodge does offer free transportation to and from the airport and the drivers/bellmen seem to be knowledgeable in getting you whatever you want. I had company so could not do much but the hotel is in a good central location with many bars and massage shops near-by. Raming Lodge is not bad for a day or two but as others have said the guest houses in town are probably better deals. http://www.raminglodge.com/

Wow, their rates have really skyrocketed. Makes me disappointed that I recommended the place. The first time I stayed there, right after it opened, I paid 1200 for a deluxe room and thought it was great value. The following year, I paid 1400 when their published website rates were 1700, and felt that at those rates, it was still worthwhile. No way is the place worth over 2000 a night, given their lack of a swimming pool and the other choices in Chiang Mai, such as Tamarind Lodge for around 2000, or a nice guest house for under 1000.

[Takamine1]

Hi guys,

Up the road from Raming Lodge, then turning on your left and walking for about 6-10 minutes you'll come across Lai Thai Guesthouse. I stayed there for 5 days (680B)> Very decent rooms, girl friendly plus a swimming pool for good measure. The girls I took there liked it since it was close and at the same time somewhat private. Its location in front of the moat and the lack of tall buildings around it give it a certain charm. I liked the place and will certainly stay there again when I visit Chiang Mai.
My next visit is scheduled for next year. I really had a beautiful time in LOS. Till then I'll follow what's going on.

That's all folks.

Take care,

Taka

[Lover Boy #2]

This is the funniest shit I think I ever read. You should be a comedy writer.



[QUOTE=That Asshole]
The "shitty end":

As the bus ride up to CM was extremely long I decided to book a sleeper train right away. There at least I can get a good sleep, so I thought. I was wrong.

As the row of passengers entered the carriage somebody already remarked "hm, there is some strange smell here...". This remark made a lot of sense later. Bedtime followed. The conductor made it up for everybody, as usual, with nice crispy white sheets. All the while I noticed some strange odour that innocently could have come from the nearby rubbish bin or the toilets on the corridor or even from the young couple with the crying baby nearby (as it smelled like sort of baby-shit).

The most interesting was though that the smell was most intense inside my little compartment. I figured innocently that maybe a used nappy having rolled under the seats somehow. Was about to think of something nice and going off to sleep to the rhythm of the wagon wheels but I suddenly became aware of some wetness around my waist area.

Did not even need to look very closely to see the ever growing brown patch seeping through the sheet. The shit was on my bed! Somebody emptied their bowels right there and the shit soaked into the mattress. It seemed so shocking that I even laughed. Funny. Here I am rolling in someone's forgotten excrement. They might be looking for it.

The conductor was already asleep on top of some used bedlinen at the end of the carriage. I felt lucky to be able to explain in some broken Thai of what was happening. He seemed totally disinterested and just pushed another clean sheet in my hands. I considered my options. Throw the whole mattress out and try to sleep on the hard bunk. Possibly I would't sleep at all. And it is just as dirty anyway. Sleep is important. And I am already covered in shit anyway, there is no way to shower here. So, I spread the new sheet over the old one and tried to get some sleep. The stink had a sort of radish scent to it. And the patch now seeping through two sheets had a sort of "reddish" tint.

I like radishes, especially freshly cut on top of buttered bread. I was trying to think of that. But I just ended up counting the minutes, wide awake. By that time the conductor had barricaded himself away between two carriages and locked the doors so that nobody could disturb him. Finally, I got around an hours sleep with my "dream radish-sandwiches". However, unfortunately I vomited them all out, soon after in the train's toilet. Finally morning came, and we drew pretty near Bangkok.

To my greatest amazement the conductor after removing the shitty sheets, just packed the matress away back in the compartment without the slightest interest, the dreary package waiting for it's next victim.

By that time I got used to the stink and didn't feel it that strong. However, noticed that the other passengers pulled awy from me on the subway to Sukumvit rd. Finally arriving in the hotel the receptionist started coughing and asked me if I had eaten radishes recently. I said yes, but unfortunately they all came out not long after, all courtesy of State Railway of Thailand. She didn't understand. Nevermind.

Interesting experience though. Wouldn't give it for a bagful of shit.
QUOTE]

[Roccos]

Hello,

I will be in Chiang Mai for 3-4 days in December.

- what is the best location for hotel. Next to nightlife and action?

- a decent and good located girl friendly hotel to recommand?

- where can I find the best action? I don't like too much MP. Which street?

Thanks for help.

[Kittycat]

This is the funniest shit I think I ever read. You should be a comedy writer.Yo Bro,

It is such a waste if he becomes a comedy writer, he should replace Jim Carrey or Chris Tucker!

Cheers

Kitty

[Greed Is Good]

Hello,

I will be in Chiang Mai for 3-4 days in December.

- What is the best location for hotel. Next to nightlife and action?

- A decent and good located girl friendly hotel to recommand?

- Where can I find the best action? I don't like too much MP. Which street?

Thanks for help.Roccos,

Tough for anyone to give you info if we do not know what you want to spend.

Beer Bars ---Loy Kroi Rd.

[Roccos]

I look for a "no joiner fee" hotel, price range +/- 1000-1500 thb with airco, hot shower, clean, not noisy.

[Simian]

Going to stay in Chiang Mai shortly but tired of living in hotels. As I will be staying for about 5 weeks, I thought I might try an apartment, if this exists in Chiang Mai. Any of you guys know of apartments of this kind and their rents? Does not have to be in the the tourist area.

[Kurtweiler]

I look for a "no joiner fee" hotel, price range +/- 1000-1500 thb with airco, hot shower, clean, not noisy.I like Pornping Tower. Try it!

[Forever69]

Siamian,

There are plenty. You just walk around whee you want to stay and look for big buildings with lots of aircon units. If you need more help than that- pm me.

[Greed Is Good]

I look for a "no joiner fee" hotel, price range +/- 1000-1500 thb with airco, hot shower, clean, not noisy.R.,

Also try the "Royal Lanna". Right in the middle of the Night Bazaar

[Greed Is Good]

Going to stay in Chiang Mai shortly but tired of living in hotels. As I will be staying for about 5 weeks, I thought I might try an apartment, if this exists in Chiang Mai. Any of you guys know of apartments of this kind and their rents? Does not have to be in the the tourist area.Do a search on "Galare Guest House"

Had a friend stay there last year and he liked it

[Simian]

Thanks for the pointers about the serviced apartments.

[Cali Voyeur]

Hey all,

I've read through this section quite a lot, but it seems nobody has talked about escorts. I'm going to be in Chiang Mai for several days, and it would be great to have somebody with me the whole time. Basically, a combined booty call and translator as I do touristy things during the day or when I go to restaurants.

Any good pointers to an agency? Seems I'd want to arrange it ahead of time rather than waiting until I get there and springing the whole "hang with me for 72 hours" thing. Can't imagine that would fly well :-P

Or is this really just not a good idea?

(gotta say that it worked great during a quick visit to Bangkok last year)

Thanks!

[Forever69]

Enjoy massage

Found a nice new massage place-enjoy massage on kotchasarn rd. From tha phae gate to dk bookstore proceed south on the same side of the street shortly before lai tai gh. Nice girls great massage good prices happy ending.

[Richo Stevens]

Enjoy massage

Found a nice new massage place-enjoy massage on kotchasarn rd. From tha phae gate to dk bookstore proceed south on the same side of the street shortly before lai tai gh. Nice girls great massage good prices happy ending.Age of the girls? And how much did you pay?

[Chedi]

Enjoy massage

Found a nice new massage place-enjoy massage on kotchasarn rd. From tha phae gate to dk bookstore proceed south on the same side of the street shortly before lai tai gh. Nice girls great massage good prices happy ending.I walked by this place last week and saw three gals sitting outside. Almost went in for a massage but continued around the block towards the Imperial Mae Ping Hotel. Ended up going to Relax Express for a decent oil massage, some playful teasing, and a good finish.

Maybe I'll give Enjoy Massage a try next time but i'm tempted to go back to Relax Express as well. I like that they wear uniforms rather than street clothes, appears more professional during the massage and risque with the finish. Plus my gal was slim and cute.

[Vinny_Viagra]

I will be traveling by myself to CM. Where would anyone suggest a guy hang out either outside or inside where he could meet and chat up a Thai gal? For mongering purposes of course...

[Kurtweiler]

I will be traveling by myself to CM. Where would anyone suggest a guy hang out either outside or inside where he could meet and chat up a Thai gal? For mongering purposes of course...Just stroll up Loi Kroh Road (from Night Market), and you will have a lot of invitations.

Good luck!

[Greed Is Good]

I will be traveling by myself to CM. Where would anyone suggest a guy hang out either outside or inside where he could meet and chat up a Thai gal? For mongering purposes of course...VV,

Not quite sure I understand the question

Outside or inside where?

[Joesin]

Part 1- Chiangmai

The early morning of Chiangmai in Dec is COLD! had some time off and went to night market area to get some massage. Reach there around 11 am.

Was walking from Royal Princess Hotel towards 7-11. past by several massage areas and suddenly notice a cute and slim gal. "want massage?" "How much?" Obvious answer is staring right at me on the price list. "250 baht for 1 hour" seeing that the oil massage is also priced at 250bt, I went for it, since in Bkk it is much more pricey. Forgot the name of the shop, but it takes up 2 shophouses and has a tourist counter outside

went up and change to a XL size shorts for the massage. My trick is always to pretend change slowly and wait for the gal to come in with me "trying hard" to figure our how to wear the shorts properly. Cheap Trill, I agree, but it still trills. so she saw that I had "difficultly" wearing and she help me with that, with with Junior staring right at her!

Lie down face up and she started the massage. was not a fantastic one as I like hard massage. chat with her but forgot her name, just that she is 28 yo, looks 24 though. Tease her about how shy she was just now blah blah…

The fun began when she started massaging my stomach and arms while sitting beside me. My hands started roaming up and feeling her boobs. Not big, Cup A I suppose. She did not resist, keep smiling shyly, abit reluctant, but no resistance. Funny thing is she continue massaging my arms and went on to massage my left arm after that. I was like “don’t you get what I want??”

While sitting beside me on my left side now, I pull down the shorts and out came junior. AND SHE CONTINUES TO MASSAGE MY HANDS! I had to take her hand and place it on Junior then she realised I want a release…

As she work on me, I went to work on her too. I grab and squeeze, sometimes hard sometimes gentle. Her technique is above average, and one thing I like is when junior explode, she did not stop, nor turn it away. Junior was shooting in her direction and some of the joy juice landed on her jeans. She help me to clean before cleaning herself. Customer comes 1st!

I thought that would be the end while I rested. She came back and asked me to turn over and continue to massage my back. Wow! Good service but the massage still not hard

10 more minutes of pure massage and we are done. Change and left her 300 baht as tips. She looks more than happy to accept, smiling from ear to ear.went downstairs, paid up(250) and left happy.

Sensing still have some time, I walk past another massage shop and they offered a 30 mins back/shoulder/head(the one above neck) for 70 baht. Had a very strong one done by a 40+ yo woman. Tip her 20 baht and left.

Next on to Bangkok.

For part 2, please read Bangkok thread.

For part 3 on hatyai, please read hatyai thread.

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[Timps]

Hello all!

In the end of February I will be going to Chiang Mai (for dental work) and to Krabi (for diving) for a few days. I also plan on daily mongering.

I realize that both these places are not Pattaya or even Patong...but could I expect to easily find some ladies to play with?

Any suggestions of places to stay and visit would be appreciated...also current prices for st/lt

Thanks

[Member #2041]

Timps, in Chaing Mai, just take a stroll from the Taphae Gate along Loi Kroh road. There are several lady bars within 200 meters of the gate. There is also another complex with a Mui Thai boxing ring and another dozen or so lady bars about 1 km in on Loi Kroh walking toward the river, and shortly before the Imperial Mae Ping and Duangtuan hotels - but you'll need to be careful at a couple of these places in this complex - unless you don't mind getting the surprise of some bone with your meat.

Oh, and BTW, it's not necessary to post the same inquiry 3 times in a row.

[Animby]

The early morning of Chiangmai in Dec is COLD!

Cold? 70 F 20C? Where you from? Hell?

[Joesin]

Cold? 70 F 20C? Where you from? Hell?I did not take a thermometer with me though. But with the cold wind blowing at me, I find it relatively cold, compared to my home country(which in any case, is certainly not Hell). Anything with my own opinion? :)

[Forever69]

Cold,

It's all relative I guess. I've been staying in CM for five years and I have been freezing my but off lately. Temps are back to normal now though-25-30 C.

[Richo Stevens]

Does anyone know of any places which is discrete and somehow hidden where one could indulge in my favorite activity? The mp's around town is just too obvious, and my wife would be alerted in no time by someone who'd recognize me. Maybe somewhere just out of town, lamphun I. E? Or some uni students in strap for cash?

[NicFrenchy]

Does anyone know of any places which is discrete and somehow hidden where one could indulge in my favorite activity? The mp's around town is just too obvious, and my wife would be alerted in no time by someone who'd recognize me. Maybe somewhere just out of town, lamphun I. E? Or some uni students in strap for cash?If being recognised is your problem, then I suggest you stay home and jerk off. Seriously.

Chiang Mai's scene is pretty tame and all pretty much gathered around the main Mongering Areas.

Unless you don't mind wandering in places that cater to Thais only.

[Greed Is Good]

Does anyone know of any places which is discrete and somehow hidden where one could indulge in my favorite activity? The mp's around town is just too obvious, and my wife would be alerted in no time by someone who'd recognize me. Maybe somewhere just out of town, lamphun I. E? Or some uni students in strap for cash?May be an option.

In this town fairly easy to find one. Karaoke girls(especially low season), get their mobile #'s, shop girls, older Uni students, put them up in a cheap apartment somewhere. 10,000 bht monthly + a few expensives keeps most pretty happy.

[Gfighta]

I've been living in BKK for the past 3 months and have been thinking about moving to Chiang Mai. Any suggestions on where/how to start looking for a place to rent? What sort of condo could I get for 5000THB/month?

[Greed Is Good]

I've been living in BKK for the past 3 months and have been thinking about moving to Chiang Mai. Any suggestions on where/how to start looking for a place to rent? What sort of condo could I get for 5000THB/month?Dear Gf,

If you are used to paying inner BKK prices I think you will be pleasantly surprised at CM.

Just had a friend come and look at condos for 3 days in a similar situation. Close to the Night Bazaar expensive. If you get out of the farang areas things get pretty cheap. In my building, next to CMU, we looked at a 44 sq mtr place for rent at 5500bht monthly. Other hot areas are Ninamanheiman Rd. Neat area, coffee shops, bars, boutiques, etc., you can run the gamit from 7000-20,000bht. Depends upon size, services, etc.

[Hello1]

Hello all!

In the end of February I will be going to Chiang Mai (for dental work) and to Krabi (for diving) for a few days. I also plan on daily mongering.

I realize that both these places are not Pattaya or even Patong...but could I expect to easily find some ladies to play with?

Any suggestions of places to stay and visit would be appreciated...also current prices for st/lt

ThanksHi Timps,

You might want to try the massage parlour at the Chiangmai Hills Hotel in Huay Kaew Road. They open around noon and by then already have 30 or so girls, many cuties among them. 1. 800 Baht for 1, 5 hours for the "normal" ones and 2. 000 Baht for the "young" ones, but definitly some cuties among them. But knowledge of Thai is in my opionion mandatory for the real experience. Then you can easily get their phone numbers and meet them outside as well.

Good luck!

Heinrich.

[Timps]

Thanks for the info Heinrich.

I have no knowledge of the Language and I will only be three night in each of my stops. So not too much time. Unfortunately for me.

Any good soapies around that you know of?

How is the beer bar scene?

[Hyku1147]

Hi Timps,

You might want to try the massage parlour at the Chiangmai Hills Hotel in Huay Kaew Road. They open around noon and by then already have 30 or so girls, many cuties among them. 1. 800 Baht for 1, 5 hours for the "normal" ones and 2. 000 Baht for the "young" ones, but definitly some cuties among them. But knowledge of Thai is in my opionion mandatory for the real experience. Then you can easily get their phone numbers and meet them outside as well.

Good luck!

Heinrich.Hi,

I am familiar with the curtain massage, and the barfine routine, but I have never been to a place like CM Hills. Is it full service, or do you have to negotiate with the girl for extras?

Thanks.

[Ahodesu]

Fellas,

I'm thinking about staying at Baan Orapin for a few days after Xmas. It's an upper scale bed & breakfast. Just wondering if anyone has stayed there, whether it's recommended, and if it's girl friendly. I've done a lot of reading here on girl friendly hotels and guest houses, but have not seen anything on this place.

Thanks!

[Richo Stevens]

Fine new establishment in Loi Kroh Rd, 25 meters on your right from the top of the road, massage place with some tremendously good looking young ladies, tempting to pay them a visit. But dangerous area please let me know of their service if anyone take look!

[Animby]

Fine new establishment in Loi Kroh Rd, 25 meters on your right from the top of the road, massage place with some tremendously good looking young ladies, tempting to pay them a visit. But dangerous area please let me know of their service if anyone take look!

Not sure where you mean. If the top of the road is the end at the moat, then you are probably referring to the small alley way with several massage places in it. If this is the same place, then I can tell you I spent some time there last summer and the girls aren't that good looking, take a lot of encouragement to do anything other than tease you, charge substantially above the norm, have small, not very private shops and more than one or two lady boys are employed there. But dangerous? Nah.

[Richo Stevens]

Not sure where you mean. If the top of the road is the end at the moat, then you are probably referring to the small alley way with several massage places in it. If this is the same place, then I can tell you I spent some time there last summer and the girls aren't that good looking, take a lot of encouragement to do anything other than tease you, charge substantially above the norm, have small, not very private shops and more than one or two lady boys are employed there. But dangerous? Nah.Thats the place, but there is a new shop just next to the road, and they do look incredible. dangerous in regards of my wife, not crime related.

[Forever69]

Go up the road to lovely massage on the right side before Kampangdin Rd, ask for cha cha, get and hours worth of oil massage. Everything else will just fall into place.

[Greed Is Good]

Hi,

I am familiar with the curtain massage, and the barfine routine, but I have never been to a place like CM Hills. Is it full service, or do you have to negotiate with the girl for extras?

Thanks.It is indeed full service. And I have to agree with the previous poster. I have been going there for 4 yrs now. Many times just looking in and seeing if there is any talent. Have taken 3X's and only been happy once. But looked in last Thursday and was impressed. They have upgraded their selection. Did not partake, I hope they have upgraded their rooms also. They were a bit dodgy 6 months ago.

[Greed Is Good]

Fellas,

I'm thinking about staying at Baan Orapin for a few days after Xmas. It's an upper scale bed & breakfast. Just wondering if anyone has stayed there, whether it's recommended, and if it's girl friendly. I've done a lot of reading here on girl friendly hotels and guest houses, but have not seen anything on this place.

Thanks!I had never heard of it and did a search. Now i know where it is. Not sure if it is GF friendly. But can't imagine it would be a problem. But that is a very busy road. And one of the reviewers said it was very noisy. Which I can imagine. Maybe they have rooms at the back which I would recommend getting if possible

[Chedi]

Fine new establishment in Loi Kroh Rd, 25 meters on your right from the top of the road, massage place with some tremendously good looking young ladies, tempting to pay them a visit. But dangerous area please let me know of their service if anyone take look!Can you provide the name of the place? That would help alot.

[Animby]

Thats the place, but there is a new shop just next to the road, and they do look incredible. dangerous in regards of my wife, not crime related.

If it's being discovered by your wife you fear, then there's not much you can do. Maybe gift her with a day at the spa so you'll know she's not going to see you. Otherwise, stay the hell off popular places like Loi Kroh Road. Go to the Hungry Beaver. Not a good experience but it's out of the way...

[Relax Man]

Hi all,

I was wondering, if brothers here knows any place where they provide Authentic Nuad Kai (traditional ball massage). It is a kind of massage that circulate you penis blood vessel so that it will last longer and make it healthier.

I had try it Hadyai, it is very good and refreshing to you body and penis.

[Simian]

Dear Gf,

If you are used to paying inner BKK prices I think you will be pleasantly surprised at CM.

Just had a friend come and look at condos for 3 days in a similar situation. Close to the Night Bazaar expensive. If you get out of the farang areas things get pretty cheap. In my building, next to CMU, we looked at a 44 sq mtr place for rent at 5500bht monthly. Other hot areas are Ninamanheiman Rd. Neat area, coffee shops, bars, boutiques, etc., you can run the gamit from 7000-20,000bht. Depends upon size, services, etc.Hi Greed Is Good,

Regarding you reply to Gf, how did you find out about these condos? As mentioned before in an earlier posting, I am looking for a condo/appt for about a month. While I may have to do some cold calling after I arrive, I don't speak Thai and won't have much time to devote to searching. Do you have any phone numbers or addresses for renting a condo in any of the areas you mention, especially CMU?

[Greed Is Good]

Hi Greed Is Good,

Regarding you reply to Gf, how did you find out about these condos? As mentioned before in an earlier posting, I am looking for a condo/appt for about a month. While I may have to do some cold calling after I arrive, I don't speak Thai and won't have much time to devote to searching. Do you have any phone numbers or addresses for renting a condo in any of the areas you mention, especially CMU?Dear S. ,

Without getting a commission that's a lot of legwork!

Try the onliine mag www.citylife-citylife.com for RE agents. Or if it is still published on line there is the chiang mai mail. Asscociated with the online mag pattayamail.com.

Lots of RE agents have opened up shop in the last 2 years. I do not know what size you want, location how close to CMU, and your price range. PM me for some telephone #'s I do have.

[Animby]

Do you have any phone numbers or addresses for renting a condo in any of the areas you mention, especially CMU?

Suggest you go on line and look for SERVICED APARTMENTS. Depending on the area, they'll run you 10-15,000 baht a month. The maid will come in a couple of times a week to clean and change the linens, there's a full time staff downstairs, most have security and a restaurant and will be happy to take your credit card. Some have pools and gyms. Many of them call themselves "Mansion". For a one month stay I don't know I'd go so far as CMU. You probably want to be closer to town.

[Animby]

Do you have any phone numbers or addresses for renting a condo in any of the areas you mention, especially CMU?

Suggest you go on line and look for SERVICED APARTMENTS. Depending on the area, they'll run you 10-15,000 baht a month. The maid will come in a couple of times a week to clean and change the linens, there's a full time staff downstairs, most have security and a restaurant and will be happy to take your credit card. Some have pools and gyms. Many of them call themselves "Mansion". For a one month stay I don't know I'd go so far as CMU. Unless you're going to rent your own transport, you probably want to be closer to town. That's my opinion. And worth what you paid for it.

[Animby]

Do you have any phone numbers or addresses for renting a condo in any of the areas you mention, especially CMU?

Suggest you go on line and look for SERVICED APARTMENTS in Chiang Mai. Depending on the area, they'll run you 10-15,000 baht a month. The maid will come in a couple of times a week to clean and change the linens, there's a full time staff downstairs, most have security and a restaurant and will be happy to take your credit card. Some have pools and gyms. Many of them call themselves "Mansion". For a one month stay I don't know I'd go so far as CMU. Unless you're going to rent your own transport, you probably want to be closer to town. That's my opinion. And worth what you paid for it.

[Dinghy]

liked it so much you posted it 3 times huh?

[Animby]

liked it so much you posted it 3 times huh?

My apologies to the forum. Not sure what I did. I recently coughed up the bucks for a tiny eeePC and my fingers are still getting used to the keyboard. (Not sure I'm going to keep it but it's fun to play with. Sort of like LBGs.)

[Bunsupkneelin]

Went by the Nimmanhemin Rd Soi 13 houses yesterday and found them demolishing the blue steel door house. It was just open two days before. Not sure if this is the end, but it sure looked like it. The area is developing rapidly and it may be the end of the brothels in the area. Any other houses in the city similar to these, in Santitam maybe?

[Ice Raj]

Gentlemen,

I would appreciate if any one of you would be so kind as to update me on a nice soapy/massage (with extras) in C'Mai. Knowing the cost would also be a huge help bros.

Will be there for the 1st time with the missus on the 31/01-3/02/08. So need some discreet place to finish the deed in quick time.

Cheers,

Ice

[Forever69]

Report # 830 a few pages back has it all.

Just don't go there in a tuk tuk. You can easily walk for example from the night market to sayuri, which will be your best bet.

[M P Lurker]

Gentlemen,

I would appreciate if any one of you would be so kind as to update me on a nice soapy/massage (with extras) in C'Mai. Knowing the cost would also be a huge help bros.

Will be there for the 1st time with the missus on the 31/01-3/02/08. So need some discreet place to finish the deed in quick time.

Cheers,

Ice
Ice Raj,
Its a few years since I went to a Chiang Mai Soapy. I think it was Sayuri, but not 100% sure.
The following web site should be some help including Maps:
http://www.soapy-massage.com/chiang-mai-soapy-massage-parlors.html

[Relax Man]

Ice Raj,

Its a few years since I went to a Chiang Mai Soapy. I think it was Sayuri, but not 100% sure.

The following web site should be some help including Maps:

http://www.soapy-massage.com/chiang-mai-soapy-massage-parlors.htmlThanks for the map, Mick Licker. The last time I tried to find sayuri, I ended up at pandora instead. That was a long walk from centra dangtawan hotel. I went there once, and tried to remember the road and turning, but guess I toke the wrong turn. They have 1 of the best girls in chiang mai accord to locals there. Thanks again.

[M P Lurker]

Thanks for the map, Mick Licker. The last time I tried to find sayuri, I ended up at pandora instead. That was a long walk from centra dangtawan hotel. I went there once, and tried to remember the road and turning, but guess I toke the wrong turn. They have 1 of the best girls in chiang mai accord to locals there. Thanks again.

I may have done similar and ended up at Pandora many years ago. But no matter the girl was good. I ad a limited window away from the ex-GF so had to rush too.

"dangtawan" didn't seem to gel as being properly Thai, so being a pedantic type, I looked it up. Hotel is actually called "Centara Duangtawan". Duangtawan is one of numerous ways that Thais refer to "the sun". Duang by itself means star, planet or heavenly body :), and so is a common Thai girl's name .

[Greed Is Good]

Went by the Nimmanhemin Rd Soi 13 houses yesterday and found them demolishing the blue steel door house. It was just open two days before. Not sure if this is the end, but it sure looked like it. The area is developing rapidly and it may be the end of the brothels in the area. Any other houses in the city similar to these, in Santitam maybe?That is not good news!

Was there about a week ago. Will take a drive by tommorrow. The 2 karaokes next door can be very hit and miss. No beauties at the chicken farm but consistent service and cheap.

The area is fast becoming the most expensive part of town. Figured it would just be a matter of time that they would be gone. But then where are the locals going to go for their cock fights?

Going to 2 new (for me anyways) local places this weekend. Will let you know. One place on the 1st ring road. And one just off Chung Puek near the North Computer stores. Open at night but a few of yings standing outside and christmas lights strung about.

[Kurtweiler]

I may have done similar and ended up at Pandora many years ago. But no matter the girl was good. I ad a limited window away from the ex-GF so had to rush too.

"dangtawan" didn't seem to gel as being properly Thai, so being a pedantic type, I looked it up. Hotel is actually called "Centara Duangtawan". Duangtawan is one of numerous ways that Thais refer to "the sun". Duang by itself means star, planet or heavenly body :), and so is a common Thai girl's name .The name of the hotel is Central Duangtawan Hotel. I have stayed there once, and it is a good hotel.

[M P Lurker]

The name of the hotel is Central Duangtawan Hotel. I have stayed there once, and it is a good hotel.
and has had a name change since you were there and is now called Centara Duangtawan. I think I stayed also under the old name and found it very good.

[Bunsupkneelin]

As with many things here, all is not what it seems at first: the blue steel gate house on Soi 13 is actually still in operation despite appearances to the contrary. Drove by again for a look, and lo and behold, I saw mamasan waving me in from a crude gate at the back of the demolition site. Same girls, same abysmal rooms, just a more cramped staging area. They are building a new place out front that may or may not be an updated version of the old, but I can't understand Northern Thai or Burmese which is what the girl seemed to be fluent in. Had to run, but will quiz mamasan when I next week.

[Greed Is Good]

As with many things here, all is not what it seems at first: the blue steel gate house on Soi 13 is actually still in operation despite appearances to the contrary. Drove by again for a look, and lo and behold, I saw mamasan waving me in from a crude gate at the back of the demolition site. Same girls, same abysmal rooms, just a more cramped staging area. They are building a new place out front that may or may not be an updated version of the old, but I can't understand Northern Thai or Burmese which is what the girl seemed to be fluent in. Had to run, but will quiz mamasan when I next week.Bun,

Funny I had the same, same.

Stepped through the construction after seeing 2-3 Thai guys going in. Girls sitting in the back around the roosters The smell about the same! But still the same prices. Hopefully with the upgrade that does not change. My fav, Mae Sae ying, said she thought it would be done within the month. With the price of RE in the area I still think it can't be long before it gets sold for new development.

Met a young Brit yesterday that has a full scale office/rest/shop development going on at the bottom of Soi 7. Can't believe what he told me he paid for the rai!

[Joesin]

and has had a name change since you were there and is now called Centara Duangtawan. I think I stayed also under the old name and found it very good.Yup, its a great hotel,with easy access to food and night market. Only just that the connecting doors between rooms are totally not sound-proof. You can hear clearly whats going on next door. So cover your girl's mouth while doing the act. :)

[Tall Tom]

I will heading to Chiang Mai in a few weeks and have been searching for a suitable, moderately priced, place to stay for a few days. Galare looked interesting and seemingly in a convenient neighborhood. Have you stayed there? Is it guest/girl friendly? Any other recommendations? The other place I have looked at is Pornping Tower Hotel and Royal Princess.

Any comments?

Tall Tom

[NicFrenchy]

Avoid At All costs

I tried this place twice while in CM and was disappointed both times.

The place is your regular shithole: Old and rusty bar with a back room and 3 mattresses that they use for Oilys.

First night I went in, a cutish girls took me back for an oil massage. As soon as I entered the back room and lied down on the mattress, a putrid smell attacked my nostrils, as if the towels and pillow cases had not been changed in weeks! I told her there is no way I would lay down on this filthy stuff and she giggled, left adn brought back some fresh towels.

Massage was bad (as expected), and she only offered HJ. I refused and asked for a BJ (at least) but she said she did not like it. She pressed for a HJ but I told her I can do that better myself (since she did not even want to strip her clothes). I left the place with a Hard on.

[NicFrenchy]

next day, afternoon, i walked back on loy kroh and passed in front of the thirsty beaver. the lady i had previously was there and jumped out of her seat to meet me in the street, she kissed me and asked me if i wanted a massage? i smile politely and told her i was looking for a blowjob, she smiled and pointed towards her friend: "she can do!". i was completely speechless, the girl actually pointed towards a 70 year old lady who looked like she was 90. now i have said in the past that i liked experienced and mature ladies but, this would be pushing things a little too far.

there was another girl there, a little "pumpuy" but smiling at me. i took her.
believe it or not, the old lady did look disappointed i did not pick her.

the girl started with a lame massage that lasted 10 minutes and then moved to balls fondling, while telling me i am handsome man and she want to come to my hotel and be my girlfriend. i, of course, did not take her up on the offer and quietly enjoyed the balls massage.

while i gently start to peel off her clothes, she asks me "how much you pay?" to which i reply "1,000 for blowjob + body massage", she nodded, indicating the price offered was satisfactory.

she gave a lame body massage and a very lame cbj. after 5 minutes of cbj, she removed the condom and started a hj.

she also reminded me that there was only 5 minutes left.

i smiled and told her that she had 2 options:

1. continue with the hj and i would only pay her 500

2. resume the bj and she would get the agreed 1000

she tried to play offended and get me to pay 1000 for a hj but as she realised i was not buying into her bullshit, she proceeded to another cbj.

took me 20 minutes to finish and she complained, saying that i should pay 2000 because she worked so hard. i smiled and handed her 1000.

she was happy anyways and asked me which hotel i was staying at and what room so that she could pass by later that night. i pretended not to hear her.

they tried to charge me for 2 hours massage but i explained to them that as i was the only customer, they technically did not lose any potential revenue. the bartender (a man) told the lady that she should charge me only for 1 hour (i guess he remembered the 100 tip i gave him the night before).

thirsty beaver is a rathole. avoid.

[Ice Raj]

Hi Mick & Islandboy,

Thanks for the heads up bros. Will provide an FR if I am lucky and manage to escape the missus.

Cheers.

Ice

[M P Lurker]

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Massage was bad (as expected), and she only offered HJ. I refused and asked for a BJ (at least) but she said she did not like it. She pressed for a HJ but I told her I can do that better myself (since she did not even want to strip her clothes). I left the place with a Hard on.
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LOL. I can identify with the bit about doing a better HJ myself. Have plenty of self HJs when not in a good mongering country.

Now you could have been investigating the top Oilys or Soapies in Chiangmai instead with nice BJ and FS included.
My last trip to Chiangmai was with the GF and we had a fullish program so didn't get to investigate anything (mongering wise) :(.

[NicFrenchy]

Now you could have been investigating the top Oilys or Soapies in Chiangmai instead with nice BJ and FS included.I would have loved to, in fact, I had plans to Visit Sayuri, Pandora and Phucome but the Girl I met on Camfrog would not leave me alone for the remaining 6 days of the Trip. She was so demanding my pecker was red, hurting and in need of rest. (report coming soon)

[Bunsupkneelin]

Nic,

Please help me out here. Why in God's name would you go for a crappy BJ in a bedbug infested shithole for 1200baht when you could go to Sayuri and have a massage, BJ, bath, and good sex with a totally hot, clean, sexy 25 yo from Chiang Rai for 1000? And clean sheets. Next time, go there, pick number 49, and wash away the memory of the Thirsty Beaver.

[Laroche]

Hello Friends,

Does any of you know this hotel?

It is , I think, near the Night Market.

How is the night life there now?

Thanks

[Kittycat]

Hi all,

Attach the picture to Sayuri and Pandora, which I copied from another forum. Hope these help.

Kitty

[NicFrenchy]

Nic,

Please help me out here. Why in God's name would you go for a crappy BJ in a bedbug infested shithole for 1200baht when you could go to Sayuri and have a massage, BJ, bath, and good sex with a totally hot, clean, sexy 25 yo from Chiang Rai for 1000? And clean sheets. Next time, go there, pick number 49, and wash away the memory of the Thirsty Beaver.Mea Culpa!

I agree with you 100%, I am guilty as charged. I have been to Sayuri a lot of times before and know the younger Papa quite well. But I had seen reports of That Thirsty beaver on another forum and I wanted to check it out for myself, you know, like a bad itch that needs scratching?

[NicFrenchy]

The Website Mick gave earlier is fantastic, and reliable if you want to know about Soapies in Chiang Mai.

[Greed Is Good]

I will heading to Chiang Mai in a few weeks and have been searching for a suitable, moderately priced, place to stay for a few days. Galare looked interesting and seemingly in a convenient neighborhood. Have you stayed there? Is it guest/girl friendly? Any other recommendations? The other place I have looked at is Pornping Tower Hotel and Royal Princess.

Any comments?

Tall TomDear TT,

If I have it right the Galare is on Chan Klan Rd. Not far from the Night Bazaar. The other places I know quite well and are right in the middle of town.

All are guest friendly.

[NicFrenchy]

Recently I heard talks about Camfrog, a Camming system that somehow resembles MSN but with Special rooms and Cam shows. It looked and sounded interesting enough for me to install it on my computer and try it (I assume you all know about Camfrog, if you don’t PM me).

INITIAL E-MEETING

As I enter the Camfrog ChiangMai room, I notice the room is not very busy (about 30 people) and very few girls so it makes it easy to browse through their webcam and see what they look like.

I open the cam of this very pretty girl with long hair, I watch her giggle while she talks on her cell phone and decide to stay on her a little bit, I send a message on the main room with her nickname to see if she is paying attention. Seconds later, I see she is looking at my cam (when the eyes of the Camfrog Logo next to a name turns green, it means that person is looking at you) and replies back in Thai on the main Room chat board. Let’s call her Fon.

All girls will look at your cam first to see who you are, if you do not have a Cam it is better to forget about using camfrog (as a mean to get phone numbers).

We exchange a few smileys on the main board when, suddenly, I get a Popup, I see it is her initiating a private Chat.

We start with a few basic greetings and obvious questions (who you are, where you from, you live in Thailand or not.) and as soon as I tell her I am in Chiang Mai for a week, she jokes about us meeting that same night. With questions becoming naughtier, she invites me to a Private Video Chat (same as private message from inside a room except this time, no one but the person you video Chat with can see your cam). Her English is Fairly decent and she tells me she is a Uni Student, but before I can ask any question, she asks me to remove my T-shirt. I was not expecting this request and had to make her repeat it a second time: "U Show Baby" was her only answer.

I could see as I slowly pulled my shirt up that she was getting closer to the screen, eyes wide open. "mmmm I like" she wrote, adding a tongue-out Smiley. From that point on, things got very kinky and before you know it, both of us were naked.

The Conversation went like This:

FON: “ I want See”
NIC: “what you want?”
FON: “See Dick”
NIC: (showing but covering with my hand) “Hahaha, ok?”
FON: “Open, I want see”
NIC: « ok » (showing)
FON: “Wooowwww, I like”
FON: “I want see dick not sleeping”
NIC: “ok, but you show me and I get excited first”
FON: “ok” (she starts fondling her tits and masturbating”
NIC: “WOW, I like too”
FON: “you show dick now”
NIC: (showing Erect member)
FON: “ooohhhh”
NIC: (Masturbating slowly)
FON: “No sperm, you keep sperm for tonight na”

At this stage she made it clear that we would meet the same evening, but just to be sure, I IM’d her my Cell number. She sent me an SMS right away to acknowledge receipt.

We agreed to meet at the night bazaar around 8pm, but as you can never be too cautious, I asked her to reconfirm via sms an hour before. We said our goodbyes and parted e-ways.

That was a first for me, I managed to get a few phone numbers before but never experienced such an e-confident TG that got me (or us) to strip in what seemed like a Strip contest (online). Does that count as a sex experience? LOL

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[NicFrenchy]

Meeting in person

I am quite excited about this encounter so I decide to dress-up a little, you know, just in case she comes up very smartly dressed and I am in my dirty baggy jeans.
It is getting close to 19:30 and she still did not sms to confirm she would be there on time (she was supposed to confirm at 19h), but this being Thailand, I did not worry much.

With no sms by 20h00, I still decided to head for the night market and see if she would show up but something inside was telling me she would be a no-show. When I arrived at the agreed meeting point (around 20h10), she was already here. I did not recognize her instantly, or, I did but I was not expecting her to be so petite, same angel face as on the webcam except for the smaller body. She looked smoking in a Black shirt and black pants, high heels and light makeup, a definite head turner. She was accompanied by 2 of her friends, both taller and also very pretty, the trio was really hot.

I approached them and we exchanges pleasantries, introduced ourselves and FON told me they were hungry, which I was expecting since Thai girls spend most of their time munching LOL. Despite the fact that the three of them were very well dressed and did not look at all like “Working girls”, we still had a few envious stares from passing by Farangs. One of the girls made a joke about a Farang that had a huge belly and was wearing a tank top, they all laughed and asked me why Farangs like to dress like this?

The friends wanted to eat Thai food by the river but as Fon was up for Italian food so I imagined this was the agreed time where we would part ways, after all, the friends checked me out and probably acknowledge I was ok enough to let her friend alone with me. Discussions in Thai ensued and Fon’s face lit up and she told me her friends changed their mind and we’re all going for Italian, I do not object so off we go.

They picked the Italian restaurant across from the Chedi Resort, an expensive choice but I must admit the food was exquisite. The ladies agreed to join me if I ordered a bottle of wine as long as it was white wine, so white wine we had. Dinner was very pleasant with the ladies being very curious about me, it was like an interview process and 6 pairs of eyes (beautiful eyes I might add) staring into mine. I managed to keep the whole conversation fun and it looked like they had a good time.

Bill was around 3,500 and Fon’s friend, who was sitting next to me jumped when she saw the price, I guess she was worried we would have to split the amount but before she could have time to do or say anything, I put my credit card in the bill folder. Atmosphere at the table loosened up as I am sure, when you go out to dinner with a stranger, you will never know if he will pick-up the tab or not, even if it is obvious men should pay when entertaining ladies at the restaurant.

Fon & Co. were still very much in need of entertainment and I did not want to rush things so they offered to go to the Riverside bar/restaurant by the river. The band was very good, you could tell from the queue they had at the entrance and we were politely told that if we wanted to be seated, it could take approximately 30mns for a table to free-up.

I invited the girls to have a drink and listen to music in my room, they looked at each other and a little Thai chit-chat started, I could tell from the expression on their faces that they seemed to all be in agreement and Fon confirmed my assumption: “Let go your hotel”.

Of course, we stopped at the night market to grab some more food (I will always be amazed at the amount of food a Thai girls can consume and still look paper thin) and drinks.

Arriving at the Hotel (I stay at the D2, company’s expense) the security guard approached us and talked to Fon (probably thinking they were P4P), in a matter of seconds the Security Bloke waied them and left. Up to the room. I booked a Studio (which is quite spacious and enables me to work comfortably from my room) and the girls seemed to appreciate the extra space.

Girls went to the bathroom to freshen up while I laid the food down on the table and put some music on. We had a good hour of fun and laughs (drinks helped a lot to loosen up the moods) and it was time for the girls to get back home. I offered taxi money but the Friends refused saying they did not live very far, but Fon on the other hand was not tired and could stay for a few more drinks (I did not see that one coming…LOL).

With her friends gone, Fon started to get very close and playful but hard to get at the same time, she would get her face close to mine and when I reached to kiss her she would pull back and laugh. I pretended to be pouting and turned my head looking away. Like a cat around its prey, she approached and put her hands around me, sniffing my face until she finally put her lips against mine. I got turned on instantly and started to DFK her.

She was very responsive and we sat there, on the sofa, kissing and fondling each other for what seemed to be a very long time until she offered to go shower…Together.

Next report will be a detailed review of the Sex part (we had several sessions that night) and I can guarantee you that I am far from being the first Farang she slept with.

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[Greed Is Good]

Dear NF,

Sounds like you like the finer places. Maybe on the company Went to a place last night you may like. "Fine Thanks II". Their second location on the Canal Rd. Went last night with a friend visiting. Servers and waitstaff are probably 100 of the finest CMU, and other Uni's here, looking yings I have ever seen here. Stunning some of them. Food was good too. Thai and Western.

Enjoy the life

[Dinghy]

ah nic - that's the stuff dreams are made from.

<envy mode on>

[Member #1160]

Thanks to all who came before me.

I am up in Chiang Mai for a while and have been making the rounds. I went to Sayuri and since I couldn't remember every post I wound up with number 56. She does have a nice little body and I did enjoy my short time with her. She rushed me along but got the message when I wasn't getting dressed even though she was. She actually declined my tip but I figured the 200 baht I gave her may pay off in the future. She kept saying she wanted to come to my room and wanted my number but I made it clear she would have to do better if she wanted a repeat. Because of the info here I acted like I had been there before and paid 1150 baht. I got there early around 1pm there were only a couple of girls there. When I left I noticed there were about ten girls in the fishbowl and there were plenty of customers as well, mostly Thai.

I tried the karaoke place on soi 13 off Nimmanhemin Rd. I went there about midnight. I was the only falang there. The girl who sat with me when I came in was definitely doable but quoted 850 baht. Another girl there that I liked showed no interest. I left after a couple of beers. Two large Singhas were 150 baht. I will try again earlier in the day.

I went to the massage place at the Phucome hotel tonight. Had a beer while I looked at the fishbowl. There were about 8 gilrs outside the fishbowl but none to my liking. There were about ten inside the fishbowl and the Papasan sat with me while I had a beer and did not try to rush me. I chose number 5 "ning". She was great, a litle mechanical but knew how to please. No complaining, and never tried to rush me even though I took a long time to finish. 100 baht for the beer, 1000 baht for Ning and a 300 baht tip. I will go back for sure.

[Gagoo]

Ahh... Special Member 1160... nice to see you finally post something..ha-ha
Have fun!

[Greed Is Good]

Had not been to the "CM Hills Hotel" in quite a while. Last time, about 6 months ago, had bad service, no hot water, and a shitty room

After golf today decided to give it another chance. I was pleasantly surprised.

Bottom floor to the left of the hotels main entrance. Tailor shop on your left as you enter. Doors to the right, in Thai, announcing an "op naam nuat".

Different papasan. Old one still there. Both good guys. No pressure. Had a small beer looking over the choices. Mostly an asian client base, girls range from a 4 to a 8 imho. Some white skinned heavier girls. I like the white skin but not chunky Two choices. 1200bht or the 19-21 yr olds for 1500bht.

Decided on a slender, 1200bhater, 24 yrs young, long black, black, hair. Turns out she is from down the road in Lamphang. No kids. Supporting Mom, and 2 sisters going to Uni. Excellent service!

All in 1200, tip--400(100 over usual for me), papasan roi bhat for a good reccomendation.

Worth a return trip.

[Crypton]

Hello Friends,

Does any of you know this hotel?

It is , I think, near the Night Market.

How is the night life there now?

Thanks

I stayed at Park Hotel in 2000. It is a nice hotel, but it is quite far from the night market (1-1.5 miles). You can hop in the pick up truck taxi, but it is awkward to bring chicks. They (like most hotels in CM) have in-room massage service for 400-500 baht. There are many hotels closer to the action and night market - if you have a choice.

[Timps]

Has anyone stayed at the Britannia? They say it's a 15 minute walk from the night market.

Any other suggestions for a nice room that is guest friendly in the 600 bht range that is close to the action.

Thanks

[Chedi]

Has anyone stayed at the Britannia? They say it's a 15 minute walk from the night market.

Any other suggestions for a nice room that is guest friendly in the 600 bht range that is close to the action.

ThanksNowhere on their website do they give an address or location map. What's up with that? Place looks clean though.

http://www.thebritannia-chiangmai.com

[Richo Stevens]

Has anyone stayed at the Britannia? They say it's a 15 minute walk from the night market.

Any other suggestions for a nice room that is guest friendly in the 600 bht range that is close to the action.Here is the location for Britannia, its in the backpacker area, stay away if you ask me. Check out this map: http://www.chiangmaiplan.com/maps/chiang_mai_old_town_map.htm, No 13 is Britannia.

Just come over and take a look around before you commit yourself, or book one night first and then have a look around.

[Tall Tom]

i am fairly new at this, and i have certainly taken advantage of other members' experience on this forum, so i feel i have to contribute.

unlike bkk, there are not a lot of posts on cm, but my main reason for coming up here was too see more of thailand. however, if there were some good opportunties i did not want to pass them by.

i booked a room for three nights at the royal princess hotel, right in the middle of the night market. it was not my first choice, but other were all booked up (chinese new years, i suppose). the lobby looked fine, but when i got to the room. dark room, no view, worn and in need of refurbishment. the bathtub/shower has about six layers of grout and caulking trying to keep the water were it belong. the sink is cracked. the paint has been "repaired" where it was peeling or damaged, but the new spots don't match the old. there is no clock in the room. the electrical adaptor keeps falling out of the socket. a few minutes ago, a cockroach launched an attack across the desk! damages: $80 us + $17 for internet connection.

i just came from bkk where at stayed at the adelphi suites for a nice new room, view, etc. , and free internet for less than this dive.

advice: avoid royal princess hotel

went to foxy lady, which has been mentioned here before. only three girls "dancing" on stage; so-so looks (but hey, we can't always have stunners! ) i say "dancing" but they made the bangkok shuffle look like riverdance! very lame, no smiles, no eye contact.

eventually a girl came up to me unsolicitated and sat down. a drink, the normal conversation, and eventual barfine (b500) and st fee (b1500). limited english, but we managed. back at hotel she wanted a bath and i proceeded to fill the tub with very brown water. (another nice touch, royal princess). very mechanical bedroom performance. great disappointment. we finished and i was ready for her to leave. she wanted an extra b500 for bj (covered! ). i told her no way and sent her off. but yes, i still wound up overpaying for the level of service i received.

advice: ymmv

tonight, i had done my research and went to sayuri massage parlor. you walk in, go upstairs and sit in front of a large fishbowl with perhaps 40 or 50 girls. i have a drink, and go talk to the papasan. he tells me b2500. i laugh at him and tell him i have read the internet and others have been here before me. we finally arrive at b2000, and i feel like i am getting ripped. but i am here, and don't want to miss the potential for the experience of a lifetime!

i choose #45, attractive, but no stunner (which seldom appeal to me anyway). she escorts me down a dark, narrow hallway to the room. the room has a very low doorway, and the room itself is very cave-like. she is 26, and i find out her name is mia (i think). basically no english. also, no smile, no "kob koon ka", no wai, no eye contact. dead. i am not feeling real good about this so far.

she turns on the tv so she can watch thai cartoons (i am not making this stuff up! ) fills the bathtub with brown water (notice a trend here? ). i get into the small tub and she undresses and joins me. reasonably nice body. but again, no eye contact, no "hansum man", no pointing and saying "oh, you big man! ", etc. what the hell do i go to thailand for if not that part of the show!

i tried to get a little playful, but she pushed me off. washed me by the numbers. she clearly gave the impression that she wasn't having any fun. nor, for that matter was i. did i mention that the room was like a cave? well it had the temperature of a wine celler also.

she finished in the tub and she got the air mattress out and directed me onto it. christ it was cold! i guess the ac had been blowing directly on it. i asked to warm it with hot water and she acted like that was a great inconvenience to her. the old slip-n-slide consisted of lots of bubbles, and her bouncing up and down on me with her butt. (stay with me guys, it get worse! )

back into the tub for a rinse in the nice, fresh brown water. dry off and onto the bed. the sheet had a great big stain in the middle of it, in the shape of a horseshoe. i can only hope that some horse stepped on it just before i got there!

she starts playing with the little feller, but in spite of the cialis, there is not alot happening down there. (i have used cialis for the past week, so i know it works! ) i try fondling her a bit, but she doesn't allow very much. using universal sign language, i tell her i would like a bj. eventually she agrees, but only covered. another thai-style "mini-condom, " and she performs a minimal effort bj.

finally, junior is at least semi-ready for action. the only position she will allow is mish. she lubes up and we dive in. well. , not exactly. lots of wincing, groans, and obvious displeasure. she goes absolutely motionless when i am on top of her. i mean, perfectly still, perfectly quiet. except for the thai cartoons, of course. i check her pulse and respirations and clinically, she is still alive. (thank god! )

this is just not working. i go to massage parlors for the sensual adventure, the new, the daring (see my report on tulips in bangkok massage parlors). i could have more fun staying in hotel jerking off to old reruns of mary tyler moore!

finally, i had had it. i pull out, take off the condom, and drop it on the bed. i express my anger and even though she cannot understand what i say, she gets the message. i get dressed and she get up and rinses off in the tub. i do not wait for her to finish and i head for the door by myself. i open the door and immediately whack my head on the low doorway. i crumple to my knees, grasp my head, and bend over motionless for 20 or 30 seconds. no blood. she say "you ok? , you ok? ", which is the most emotion or excitement i got from her in the previous 30-45 minutes.

i leave her behind in the room and she can reroll and reuse the condom, so the evening did not cost her. i stagger back up stairs and express my anger and disappointment to the papasan who could have cared less. taxi back to hotel and dinner and beer.

no tip obviously, and i have never done that before in thailand. i have been to 5 or 6 different venues in bkk in the past 3 years, some multiply times, and have always gotten at least "ok" service, and left at least a minimal tip. i was at tulip and annie's this past week and the experience was wonderful both times.

i blame my experience mostly on sayuri, and there apparent total lack of training or for having any "company standards" for customer service. i, obviously, will never go back there again.

tomorrow will be better; i am going for an elephant ride, so at least i will be on top of something that moves.

it's more fun writing up the great experiences, but the bad ones need to be communicated also, and hopefully prevent repeats of them for others.

tom

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[NicFrenchy]

Tom,

Would help you greatly to read the reviews here. Sayuri is like a Factory, a lot of people and a lot of Thai Guys (the main Market).

Go to Pandora, it's much better, and cheaper. Price at Sayuri for BGirl (Slide you had) is 1250, at Pandora, reg Girl is 1400 and model (well, just young let's say) 2500.

Have fun

[Horntoad]

Okay, the elephant remark really cracks me up!! Unfortunately for you it's reality but hey, you're still in Thailand and I'm sure you will be waiting for your next Tulips experience!



Tomorrow will be better; I am going for an elephant ride, so at least I will be on top of something that moves.

It's more fun writing up the great experiences, but the bad ones need to be communicated also, and hopefully prevent repeats of them for others.

Tom

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[Chedi]

It's more fun writing up the great experiences, but the bad ones need to be communicated also, and hopefully prevent repeats of them for others.

TomYeah, Chiang Mai in general can be very much hit n' miss. Last few times I visited Sayuri I left without picking a gal. I haven't seen anything worthy there in awhile. The other problem with MPs is you pick a gal from the fishbowl on the assumption there will be a mutual connection but sometimes end up with a dead fish. Speaking some thai helps break the ice but only goes so far.

After your elephant ride, I suggest get an oil massage at Relax Express attached to Central Duangtawan Hotel on the outer left side (you'll see there sidewalk sign). All the gals there are cute and easy on the eyes. 500 baht for a HJ (negotiable).

Then walk over to StarSix. This gogo bar gets mixed reviews but for 150 baht (includes one beer) chill out, have a drink, check out the stage and chat up/feel up the gals, most speak decent english. 500 baht BF/1000 ST.

Royal Princess is just around the corner from both so it's convenient.

Or walk abit further to Spotlight...handful of cute gals last time I went there for a drink.

Good luck...hope you at least tipped the elephant. ;-)

[Rayzor]

I open the door and immediately whack my head on the low doorway. That brings back memories of my trip last summer!

I bumped my head on the ceiling heading down the stairs. Then on doorway leading into the room. Slipped and fell on the floor getting out of the tub. Then bumped my head on the way out of the room. Other than all that, I had a great time. Obviously YMMV.

Reiterating what HotWax stated, learn to speak a little Thai. It can bring out the best in the ladies.

Rayzor

[Tall Tom]

.

After your elephant ride, I suggest get an oil massage at Relax Express attached to Central Duangtawan Hotel on the outer left side (you'll see there sidewalk sign). All the gals there are cute and easy on the eyes. 500 baht for a HJ (negotiable).

Good luck. I hope you at least tipped the elephant. ;-)I just got back from elephant ride and I appreciate your tip on Relax Express. As soon as I shower I will head over there. I walked past StarSix a couple of days ago, and perhaps I'll go by there again latter.

I took good care of my elephant (gave it lots of bananas and sugar cane) and got to share the ride with a young uni stu from China. So overall, much better than Sayuri!

Thanks for the tips.

Tom

[Tiger43]

At OT Trad. Massage you can pick a girl from the fishbowl. Recently I was not satisfied. Lousy massage, so so HJ for 500 Baht. There is a TM place on almost every corner. Usually you are not allowed to chose. The older and fatter, the better the massage. HJ not everywhere. If you get a young and pretty girl, you can ask the mangager to send her to your room next time, or you can order her by phone. Some young girls may be shy, but probably they give you a HJ as part of the massage in your hotel. Do not tip more than 200 Baht for the extra service under those circumstances. Please do not spoil the market.

[Forever69]

Many places on loi kroh will throw in the happy ending, 300 bt tip required, no more, on top of the massage price. "narak" for example next to lovely, 500 one hr for everything. One could also ask before what is on offer. Why not?

Another good one also clean and hot shower is "enjoy" on kotchasarn rd near lai thai gh. And of corse the dirty beaver on loi kroh near charoenprathet rd.

The same goes for that endless topic of guestfriendlieness. Why not just call the hotel in question and ask them if is ok to have a lady over at the room. Then at least they understand why they have customers and why not. If they have a problem, just say: too bad- and call another hotel or guest house. There are a number of cheap gh's that accommodate you and your girl. Smile for example, or fang. Just call. Ask. You're not 13 anymore.

[Greed Is Good]

Been making the rounds the last few days. I avoid Siyura like the plague. Have never in 5 yrs had good service there. But, as anyplace, it can be very hit & miss.

Thursday after golf--Phucome Nuaat Op Naam

About 12 of the 1000bhters in the bowl. Approx 8 1400bhters (young 19-22 yr olds) on the left.

Saw a darker, slender, but healthy chest cheaper one. Turns out she is 24. And one of the best I have ever experienced in a soapy. Had her own foam (I have never had any of the girls here even familiar with their counterparts use of it in BKK and PTTY) she said she bought it herself. A friend in the biz elsewhere told her about it. Great body, slightly trimmed down below, a daughter, but no evidence I could see, and loved to be eaten. Damage 1000 to the house, 400 for her, plus a small Heieken & orange juice for her. Going back to see her again.

Friday---Pandoras

Always been my fav place to go. Not this time! Approx 4 girls on offer at 1000bht. Uugghh. 1400bht on offer---6 girls. Asked mgr where are the rest. "Mai maa" he says. Not come? ! High season at 7pm on a Friday. Alarm bells go off. He says No 18 (slender, fashionable haircut, cute), a "good f##k". Ok, I try. Gives me 200bht discount for Chinese New Yrs and me being a regular. Again bells go off. Discount and I was the only customer. I haven't been here in 2 months and things can go down quickly in any biz and especially, I would imagine, in this biz. Got to the room no hot water. Girl very distant. My Thai, I am told is pretty good, she answers in one syllable words. Change rooms at my request. New room smells like the Marlboro Man was just there. Again no banter from her at all. She turns on the TV plants her self down and decides that she isn't even going to try to be pleasant.

At that point I put on my shoes (we hadn't even got undressed yet) and head downstairs leaving her still up there.complain to Mngmt. After very little discussion, which I am surprissed at, he gives me back my 1200bht. I suspect they have had problems before with this moody Bit*h. I tip him 100bht, which I think surprised the hell out of him, and off to Loy Kroi. Go to my No 1 place. Butterfly Bar. Find a newbie to CM by 2 weeks and have a great night!

When it talks like a duck, smalls like a duck, it.

Bad service genlelmen. Just walk. You are the customer!

[Ice Raj]

During a recent trip had a good ST with a BG at one of the bar's at Loy Kroh. The place is owned by a charming Aussie and his C'Mai bxxxx. It's called Noi's and is in a row of pubs near the middle of Loy Kroh.

The girl was all over me when I walked into the Pub (cant remember her name). After a few drinks I suggested some relief for my member (and some bills in my wallet!!!). the damage was 1000Bht ST. Nice BJ, Daty was great, probably allows Anal (I fingered her ass good!).

Will definitely return for one of the other girls who was quieter but equally interested when I dropped by the following day.

Ice

[Richo Stevens]

Friday---Pandoras

I haven't been here in 2 months and things can go down quickly in any biz and especially, I would imagine, in this biz.I think you just got unlucky, went past there on Saturday night, lots of customers and quite a few girls for what I could see. So try again later :-)

[Guits]

I went to Pandoras two days ago, and I can confirm:

Only 4 girls to chose from at 6pm (was on Monday)

I chose plumpy #31: dead distant fish, with very bad service ability. Did boom boom once, then bath, then asked for a massage (they say you have 90 minutes with the girl). She massaged my back for 10 minutes, and then. Nothing. She didn't even tried to move a hand. So I left, after complaining with the mamasan (I don't speak Thai, but she got my English).

Will never return there.


Friday---Pandoras

Always been my fav place to go. Not this time! Approx 4 girls on offer at 1000bht. Uugghh. 1400bht on offer---6 girls. Asked mgr where are the rest. "Mai maa" he says. Not come? ! High season at 7pm on a Friday. Alarm bells go off. He says No 18 (slender, fashionable haircut, cute), a "good f##k". Ok, I try. Gives me 200bht discount for Chinese New Yrs and me being a regular. Again bells go off. Discount and I was the only customer. I haven't been here in 2 months and things can go down quickly in any biz and especially, I would imagine, in this biz. Got to the room no hot water. Girl very distant. My Thai, I am told is pretty good, she answers in one syllable words. Change rooms at my request. New room smells like the Marlboro Man was just there. Again no banter from her at all. She turns on the TV plants her self down and decides that she isn't even going to try to be pleasant.

[Fast Eddie 48]

I went to Pandoras two days ago, and I can confirm:

Only 4 girls to chose from at 6pm (was on Monday)

I chose plumpy #31: dead distant fish, with very bad service ability. Did boom boom once, then bath, then asked for a massage (they say you have 90 minutes with the girl). She massaged my back for 10 minutes, and then. Nothing. She didn't even tried to move a hand. So I left, after complaining with the mamasan (I don't speak Thai, but she got my English).

Will never return there.Guits,

If you want a good back massage Pandora is not the place ,There are many traditional massage place in town ,Chang mai is not a very good sauna city you should stay in Bangkok much more massage soapie place even that is a hit and miss you should not give up with just one bad experience with one girl .

Fast eddie 48

[Tiger43]

I visited the brothels on the first subsoi of Soi 13, last Thursday, 11.30 am. At the first buliding you have to enter through a narrow passage. 500 THB for just 30 minutes! Most of the girls were young, but chubby - not to my taste. Next building "Karakoke". Mamasan asked for 800 - 1200 THB. Better selection, but too expensive. 3rd small house is under construction, but business is going on. Similar offer, as in the first establishment. Will not go back.

[Some American]

I spent a couple of days in CM last week and after reading the reports here I decided that it simply wasn't worth it to try a soapy or fancy massage parlor there. I walked around town and there seemed to be MPs on nearly every block. One had a sign saying "total body" so I bought a massage. I believe it was 250 for an hour. She was great and she was thorough, very nice finish. I tipped her 200 and left feeling fine. The only issue was no hot water, but I showered back at the hotel. The next day I tried another similarly priced MP with similar results. This girl had some training in balls massage and was slow and sensual leading up to a very nice finish. Neither girl was willing to do a blowjob, unfortunately. I would return, however.

[Animby]

the damage was 1000Bht ST. Nice BJ, Daty was great, probably allows Anal (I fingered her ass good!).

Try not to pay so much, next time. Unless that 1000 included barfine, you paid too much. There's a reason for short time: so she can get back and find another trick. Bar girls make their money from quantity, not quality.

You pay 1000, next time she expects a 1000.
Bargaining IS allowed.
She asks 1000, offer 500. Stand firm at 700 or 800.

[Greed Is Good]

I visited the brothels on the first subsoi of Soi 13, last Thursday, 11.30 am. At the first buliding you have to enter through a narrow passage. 500 THB for just 30 minutes! Most of the girls were young, but chubby - not to my taste. Next building "Karakoke". Mamasan asked for 800 - 1200 THB. Better selection, but too expensive. 3rd small house is under construction, but business is going on. Similar offer, as in the first establishment. Will not go back."Mamasan" always asks for more. Stand firm at 800bht. One AM she wanted 1500bht from me. I laughed it off and told her "Mama baa" (crazy). Actually negotiate with the girl.

The 3rd place is indeed under construction. Some girls 300. Some 400. Unless they have gone up in the last 3 days

[Member #1160]

"Mamasan" always asks for more. Stand firm at 800bht. One AM she wanted 1500bht from me. I laughed it off and told her "Mama baa" (crazy). Actually negotiate with the girl.

The 3rd place is indeed under construction. Some girls 300. Some 400. Unless they have gone up in the last 3 daysI guess the 850 I was quoted at the karaoke place wasn't that bad. I went by there last night, about 9, six girls and no customers, I was with a friend and we decided to go somewhere else. I didn't realize the new building next door was also open for business, That place went up fast. I went by one day and it was just a shell, it seemed like a week later it was almost finished.

I've been back to the hotel phucome a couple of times. My friend took #12 and she was great. I tried #5 again after a good experience the first time and was even better the second time. I also tried #70, her name is mua, good time, would repeat for sure.

[Chedi]

Often overlooked compared to Sayuri and Pandora is Ping Payom Massage. Go west down Suthep Road toward CMU (southend) and it's on the left before you reach the Canal Road. Look for the Singha Beer and Snooker signage.

I've been there only once but have been meaning to drop by again soon. I thought the selection inside the fishbowl was actually quite good, certainly not as jaded looking as Sayuri gals. Prices are higher though. 1800 to the left, 1600 in the center and 2000 to the right.

Was recommended a new gal on the left for a discounted 1600b but I chose a different gal on the left for 1800b, #26. Papasan would not budge on the price except for the new gal. Can't recommend #26. Little to no english, mediocre service and odd fixation with sunflower seeds. She was nice enough to offer me some but I politely declined. Why would I return? A few of the 2k gals looked very good. I should have splurged.

I find Chiang Mai in general lacks a quality place where service is king and consistent. From BKK reports, a place like Akane in BKK would thrive here, especially considering the large number of japanese expats in town.

[Chedi]

I went to Pandoras two days ago, and I can confirm:

Only 4 girls to chose from at 6pm (was on Monday)

I chose plumpy #31: dead distant fish, with very bad service ability. Did boom boom once, then bath, then asked for a massage (they say you have 90 minutes with the girl). She massaged my back for 10 minutes, and then. Nothing. She didn't even tried to move a hand. So I left, after complaining with the mamasan (I don't speak Thai, but she got my English).

Will never return there.I don't go often but the 3-4 times I've dropped by Pandora's there are slim pickings. One time there was only two gals in the fishbowl. I thought maybe the place was extremely busy but the lobby was empty the whole time I was there and not much action outside. I have yet to actually stay and sample a gal there. I must be going on off nights.

[Chedi]

At OT Trad. Massage you can pick a girl from the fishbowl. Recently I was not satisfied. Lousy massage, so so HJ for 500 Baht. There is a TM place on almost every corner. Usually you are not allowed to chose. The older and fatter, the better the massage. HJ not everywhere. If you get a young and pretty girl, you can ask the mangager to send her to your room next time, or you can order her by phone. Some young girls may be shy, but probably they give you a HJ as part of the massage in your hotel. Do not tip more than 200 Baht for the extra service under those circumstances. Please do not spoil the market.OT next to Pandora's was by far the worst and strangest experience I've encountered in CM. The place occupies a deserted hotel and is like something out of a david lynch movie.

I picked a young poo-ying but after paying was told she did not do oil massages only thai massage. Something in my little head told me oil was the way to go so they said a different gal can give me oil. I didn't speak much thai at the time so I just nodded my head. The gal I got was abit plump and older and wearing a blue polo shirt. I figured oh well I'll get a nice massage at the least.

We entered an old, dirty hotel room and the blue curtains were drawn and she proceeded to oil me up. Way too much oil with practically no massage skills. Towards the end she asked if I wanted a HJ and asked for 500b. I should have just said no but figured she'd go for 300. No dice. After some awkward silence she finished the 'massage' and i got up to take a shower. The shower was absolutely filthy with a ragged old hand towel. I can't recall if there was soap. I left oily and unsatisfied.

No reason to go across the bridge to OT. Just find a place in town.

[Ice Raj]

Hi Anymby,

Barfine was included in the THB1000. Anyway was desperate for a quickie and to head back to the "HM"...so didnt negotiate too much. Will keep the wallet in check next time.

Cheers bro.

Iceraj

[Tiger43]

Are there places in Chiang Mai, where I can pick up freelancers? Similar to Beach Road in Pattaya? Is there a decend and inexpensive Short Time Hotel? I like late morning or early afternoon for that kind of activity and I do not want to bring girls to my hotel.

[Timps]

I got into Chiang Mai last night. Late. Most of the bars are closed due to elections. Bad timing for me.

Got my dental work done this morning at Grace. Highly recommend.

Hopped in a tuk tuk and had him take me to Pandora. 4pm. One sad lonely looking girl in the fishbowl. I was quoted 1800b.

On the Sayuri. Better selection but quoted 2500b. And he would not move budge. Then the girl I was thinking about picking gets called.

Driver suggests Chiang Mai Hill Hotel. Decent selection. I go with 59 'nan'.

The room is pretty nice. Big tub, clean sheets, mirrors and the best part one side of the room was all windows overlooking some trees.

I think I still overpaid, 2300b, but I enjoyed it.