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05-18-02, 06:39
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Me Gai
05-20-02, 11:22
*Break The Ice*

Any Body know where all the big boobs chics in Vietnam? All I see are the slim flat chest type. Some how, I just love the big tities one (fake is ok). Guys, Please come back and share your infos. This board is username and password protected now. Noobs proved !

Erik
05-21-02, 23:10
I find big boobs Viet girls for 5 USD/ST in China, along the Sino-Vietnamese border. And in Phnom Penh as well, but fewer. It might be that Northern girls have more big breasts than the Southeners. In cambodia, it is Southeners, in China Northeners. Would any good connoisseurs of the Vietnamese anatomy confirm ?

05-29-02, 03:35
This new board sucks, nobody is posting. I'll be in Vietnam for while starting next week and would love to hear the latest on the discos in Saigon, or if any of you guys want to hook up for a beer. Also need good info on hotels that are girl friendly and decent. I promise to return the favor with a full report upon my return. thanks. cocobchman@hotmail.com

wolfsberg
05-29-02, 07:09
I just returned from HCMC May 18th. I stayed at the Thanh Long Hotel at 54 Pham Hong Street. It's across the street from the New World hotel in Dist. 1. I had several different girls in my room at different times with no problems. Day and night. But never any of the prostitutes. I do know that the Doorman or owner will get one for you if you like. They told me they range from $30-$100 for 2 hours. I saw many coming and going. All were very hot looking. If you want more detailed information email me at ozkal@swbell.net

Clix
05-31-02, 11:23
Originally posted by coco beach man
This new board sucks, nobody is posting. I'll be in Vietnam for while starting next week and would love to hear the latest on the discos in Saigon, or if any of you guys want to hook up for a beer. Also need good info on hotels that are girl friendly and decent. I promise to return the favor with a full report upon my return. thanks. cocobchman@hotmail.com

This is a commentary.
The board sucks? How about posting useful information yourself?

People post/read here supposedly for mutual benefit throught the exchange of information. Therefore, one would reason that the exchange would work both ways, no?

This particular poster was asked by numerous people, including myself for a location of a "unadvertized" brothel in Baltimore which he posted about and would not provide additional informaton to the board (supposedly at mamasan's request) or backchannel me (reason given - he doesn't know me). This is on the record at the Maryland >Baltimore Board. I have requested that he reconsider his position without any response.

Cocobeachman, it appears you are well traveled and that is great.
I also know you request information from others - here and in Waldorf Maryland. I was willing to provide it to you, as were others.

Please, consider providing information publicly and privately. You request it, but heck, if we all took your position that "I don't know who you are" as the reason for not responding to requests for backchannel information, then no useful information would be exchanged even "privately".

I don't know you and you don't know me, this is true.

I am a hobbyist and intend to go to Asia this fall which is why I am scouring the Thai, Cambodia. Malay, Phillipine and Vietnam boards and stumbled upon your post here. I was rather taken aback that you would criticize about the lack of posting (i.e. exchange of information) as this seems a little like the pot calling the kettle black.

I hope we all can collectively exchange information in the future and not continue with this one way street.

I ask you, again, to backchannel me on information on the spa/brothel you mentioned in your post Baltimore's board. You have email from me, I hope you will respond in a positive manner.

Thanks
Clix

05-31-02, 22:53
hi guys,,the USA board changed to this new format over a month ago and at first it took time for everybody to adjust... now its better than before because it works faster and has some improved features, you still have the old board posts available if you want to re check old info. and soon people will catch on to the new one.

Cavechu
06-04-02, 16:38
Any VIET KIEU brothers out there that has reliable info about the hot "actions" in our homeland please drop me a line at charlie007_svn@yahoo.com. Cam on rat nhieu.

Oetziboy
06-10-02, 18:10
could anybody provide serious escort in HCM I'll be there end of june or so for couple of days, I'll not have the time to search because of my work so I would organize before, or if there is something like casa I could go there, I would prefer to get a girl for my entire stay
Thanks for your help
mecar@tin.it

CCC
06-15-02, 17:16
Hello everyone...i'm going to vietnam this next month. so anyone please tell me which is the best hotel to stay in HCM city to find girls.
and where i can easily find girls.
thanks
please email me at bangnhi@msn.com

maldym
07-19-02, 11:48
since this forum is changed to the new format, this section on HCMC is practically dead. Where are previous active contributors in the old forum like beast and dirty-dog etc.? Can you please keep it coming?

I travel to HCMC occasionally. Your info is invaluable to people like me. Will soon post my experience of being busted after a session in Hot Toc, when I am more free.

Rude Beast
07-20-02, 14:12
maldym, i think dog and i got a bit bored the posts made by others which weren't very relevant and got on with enjoying the city

maldym
07-22-02, 11:44
Here's the report I promised.

I was in HCMC in May. One nite, I felt horny and let my dick do the thinking. I allowed myself to be persuaded by the cyclo rider to take me to a hot toc somewhere in Q3. After a HJ session with one of the big busted girl, I came out and the cyclo rider told me he's tired and intead recommend a motorcyle taxi to take me back to my hotel in Q1.

The motorcycle however took me to Q11 and pretended to have lost his way. He looked for a waiting taxi and hustled me into it. Immediately, a few of his friend appeared and one of them get into the taxi with me. I was threatened and emptied of my pockets. Luckily, I did not carry much cash with me and no other cards or passport. They were disappointed but did not harm me physically, and left. The taxi was not part of it. In fact, the taxi driver is very helpful and took me back to my hotel, waited patiently while I get back to my room to get my money to pay him.

Morale of the report: NEVER TRUST ANY CYCLO AND MOTORCYCLE TAXI RIDER AT NIGHT.& DO NOT CARRY MORE THAN ENOUGH CASH WITH YOU.

Vietkieu
07-28-02, 13:31
Hi everyone,

I have been to vietnam many times before and will go again on August 10-26. Let me give some info on what I know. I was back there last year. The club scenes were closing early because of drug problems. I think at midnight. The girls in the clubs are by far the prettier ones but they cost up to $50 USD for the night. I think the cost are sometimes high because the girls might have to split the money if they are introduce to you by friends or mamasans. The clubs in Saigon are Monaco, Spaceship, Club 2000. Just ask the hotel or taxi drivers. Don't ever go on the motorbike but the car because they are registered and won't charge you anything thing extra. There are smaller clubs where there are slower music and girls in there that can dance with you for a small fee. Most of these girls will go back to the hotel with you. I went to the Catwalk club last time. It's in the New World Hotel. I think all taxi drivers know it and everyone else because Clinton stayed there during his visit. Anyways. There was about 50 girls in there (all very pretty) just sitting around or dancing with each other. There were only five guys in there the whole night. One of the guys told management that he want one of the girls to go sing karaoke with him on the upper floor and off she went. I know many other places including one at super bowl next to the airport. I would not recommend taking girls off the street because these girls are often not as pretty, use drugs, or good at pickpockets. There are cheap but probably not worth it if you are not the adventurous type. Some of the hotels with offer you pretty girls for the clubs for $50 or more a night. Bullshit. Excuse my language. They tried that on me many times but I'm not a rookie here and knew better. They just grab 2 girls from the street and pay them almost nothing. They let you choose one and return the other or return both and get two more new ones if you don't like the first two. The hotel workers could see that you are white or single and would offer girls to you. Just decline politely because it's a ripoff.

I do know pick up places in other cities as well. Like da lat, nha trang, da nang, etc. Take too long to list here. If you like to know more about anything just email me or ask on this forum and I'll try to get back to you asap. Anything for massages, bars, clubs, prices, travel, hotels, etc.

Lalake
09-12-02, 05:45
As for Saigon. Was last there in '99. Last time I was there you coudnt bring ladies back to your hotel (if the hotel is nice). There are love hotels, but, felt it was too risky to try...though I hear many people do it. Though, Ladies can visit you in your room during the day. So, I didn't mind have the girls come over at 10am for a quickie, lunch, and some sight seeing, then back to the hotel for more action and maybe swim. there are some bars/discos to go to meet girls..the only one I remember is Apocalypse Now.
Can anyone provide any information on the status of bringing girls back to the room? One day the Vietnamese have got to change this crazy policy.

Vietkieu
09-12-02, 07:09
what's up guys..i'm back from my trip to thailand and vietnam. so here's the report that i've been promising.

first off, i'm going to tell about my trip to thailand so for all those out there that only want to know about vietnam then skip down.
i spent four wonderful days in the land of smile..and you can bet that i was smiling my whole trip there. i first visited the eden club...only the best there is. check their website for info. i had two lovely thai girls that do everything i like and they were experts like no other. all your fantasies can and will come true here. the good gogo bars are long gun in soi cowboy, any rainbow in nana plaza, and g-spot in nana plaza. there are all types of girls: tall, long hair, big breasts, etc...well at least that's what i like. just be careful because one of the girls i almost went with at rainbow was only 15 years old and i could tell she wasn't the only one ****. the thai girls are really nice and treated me very special so i'll go again next year to see them.

now about my trip to vietnam. the nightlife is still dead
...everything closes at midnight. there are a few new disco clubs that are hot. blue is number one right now and lots of hot girls there. the only problem is that they are more expensive now then ever. the girls only go for one hundred and up for the night. the girls also don't hit on you like before so you have to be aggressive and not be afraid to ask. if they are sitting in a group of four girls or so with no guys around, then the are working girls. if not then they will politely tell you that they are not interested and you can go to the next group. lots of beautiful working girls in there. if you only like to dance and talk with them then tip them 5 dollars and that is more then enough. these girls only have customers two or three times a month! and that is more than double the average person in vietnam. the other club to go to is speed on tran hung dao. speed is a little less crowded but still lots of fine girls. i mean these girls are prettier then the models in vietnam by far. speed is a good place to go on the weekend when blue is too crowded to walk in. go about 9:30pm to 10pm and it closes at midnight.

i met one of my girlfriend at blue. she was sitting across from me and all i could do was stare at her like a fool. she was the prettiest thing there. one of my buddies saw my mouth open and drooling so he came over and talk to the girl for me. she wasn't a working girl but still single. i came over and talk with her and got her number. dated her a few times and we got along great. thinking about marrying this one next year so wish me luck guys.

my other girlfriend, i met at cafe nhac tre and bar at 131 nguyen hue. nice bar with music and comedy every night. the bartender girls were really nice to me and so were the waitresses. lots of them gave me there phone numbers but i was only interested in the pr girls. they are the dancers and really fine. i believe that one of them even won the beauty pagent in saigon a few days before i left. i took her out to eat to celebrate it with her. she is one of the few girls that i met that is taller then me and i am 5'9.
anyways, i like another girl there better and we dated for five or six times. took her jetskiing and bowling etc. sorry guys..i'm not as wild as usual because i was looking for a real girlfriend to marry this time around so didn't want to lose time playing around.
this bar is for guys who want a relationship only because these girls are not working girls.

i stayed at the same hotel again. the hotel across from there is called thai thien and many girls come and go from there. most of the girls are called by the hotel or with someone already. there are many street girls at midnight to three but i don't bother with them because most are druggies. most haircut places and massages are clean now...nothing special. cops are too strict now. karaoke places are okay but cost a lot. you can arrange with the girls to meet you afterward but not worth the trouble.

in summary, the best and probably the only place you should go to find nice looking girls are in the discos at blue and speed. my friends got fine looking girls all over them there. oh, there is a coffee shop called window's cafe in saigon. all the fine girls are there after 1pm or noon time before they go to work. just hang out there to meet friends or look at all the fine girls who come in and out of there. definitely the finest girls in vietnam all go there.

one more thing, i didn't go in catwalk at new world hotel but passed by it many times. i always have dates and damn country closes the nightlife too early that i can't go on dates and have fun afterward. i see a few really nice looking girls sitting out front with foreigners so that could be a nice place to check out especially for those who have lots of money. classy girls in there that are all working girls.

i guess that's all for now. so much to tell about but email me for specific info that you want...like certain places and girls that work there. i don't like giving names and numbers out here. i did go to da nang for five days so i have info about there also. anyways, thanks for reading and good luck to all. my email is minhnh2@aol.com

dirty D.
09-12-02, 12:09
hello every one this is Dirty Dog. it's been a long time since i check out WSG. seeing the new forum, i thought i would once again contribute. my favorite "hoc toc" is located near the bus station on xo viet nghe tien street or something like that. sorry for the vagueness but the place is called "xuan" something. i will get the exact address and name soon. "virgin" from the old discussion board referred me but i think "beast" was the first to know about it. anyways the younger sister of the mamason has large perfectly shaped tits. she will let you perform a 69 on her. and she lets you cum in her mouth. (all the girls lets you finish off in the mouth but only 1 lets you do the 69) price is 70,000 vnd. well worth it! the other place i fequent is the brothel in Phu Nhuan district. by far this is the best venue around. it's on tran quang khai/tran hieu lieu street. to get there turn north on tran quang khai street from le van sy. go about 1/2 a km. it on the left and side just before a "bitis" shoe store. it has blue gates which are always closed. often there is a bonus motorcycle parked in front of the house.buzz the door bell, Loan the mamason will anwer. if you are a smooth talker she may let you in. she speaks only vietnamese. try to ask for a special massage. the price is 200,000 vnd for full service. just about anything you want.the house is clean and confortable as well. they have 2 new girls a day there. thursdays are the best. oh and no tipping expected. GOOD LUCK TO YOU ALL. If you have any trouble getting in let me know i might be able to help. also try to tell her that "thanh sent you" (in vietnamese). that's the guy the referred me and a good friend of the mamason.- dirty D.

Rude Beast
09-13-02, 18:50
Hey Dog, long time no hear. There are a large number of Hot Toc near the the Eastern Bus station, can never remember the name of the one I frequent just recognise it from the outside. Never got around to trying many of the others in the area.

Still pay VND 70,000 for a shampoo and BJ no tip required. I can think of worse ways to spend a hot lunch time.

Anybody looking for Windows cafe mentioned by Vietkieu it's located on the corner of Pham Ngoc Thach and Tran Cao Van next to Ho Con Rua (Turtle Lake).

dirty D.
09-14-02, 13:34
im still in vietnam. i may be returning to the states soon but for only a brief time then come back here. the hoc toc with the great BJ's that i mentioned is NOT on xo viet nghe tein street. it's on Qouc Lo st. (spelling?) the best way to find it is to get on Nguyen Thi Minh Khai street and go out of the city center towards Binh thanh district. at he big round a bout go straight. soon you will be at 5 way intersection. go straigt for maxium of 100 meters it's on the right hand side. don't vier right on the road to thanh da district. the mamason will quote you price of 100.000 for the "massage" but she will settle for 70.000. also i heard from a trusted friend that the bar/lounge on the 9th floor?, of the Caravel Hotel has some fine working girls available for 500.000 vnd all night. a little steep for me but may be worth it. everyone do not go to the HOA SON karaoke i previously mentioned. even though the got a great selection of girls for 200.000 vnd full service. they have resorted to being a rip off establishment. too bad. they use to be really good. if you still want to take your chances my advice is YOU open the beers and only ask them to bring into the room what you intend on drinking. otherwise the girls will pop open a beer every 2 minutes. then they will charge you for those beers even though you haven't drank them. keep a close eye on what the girls are doing. if you can do that then you shouldn't have too much problems. in my next post i will tell of some "cafe oms" -cheap BJ and outcall service. hey beast, i heard Monaco bar is openning up again soon, is this true?

09-15-02, 04:01
I'll be there in November too, I'd like to meet up with some of you guys. I spent the month of June there and met a very beautiful girl working at the Spaceship as a bartender, but otherwise the place was dead. Apocalypse Now was okay but I did end up finding a real gem there about on my 5th time going to that bar, ended up spending a week with her. Most of the go go bars I found the girls to be pretty nasty except for one at the Green Hill bar. Hot tocs I walked in and out of probably a dozen or so, never saw a girl worth staying for. Catwalk was fun for one night, beautiful women but the place is mainly for guys who don't mind spending the extra money so they don't have to go on the hunt for women. Stayed at a 3 star hotel and they let me bring the women in, I just became friendly with the night managers. They would not even accept a tip! Great guys, I think I amused them with my constant stream of different women. I watched one guy drunk and arguing to bring a girl in, made me kind of embarrassd to be a fellow American. Be cool and you will get pretty much what ever you want.

Taodan
09-17-02, 04:48
I was in VN in June 2002 for 2 weeks, my friends took me to one of the BJ coffee shops in Go Vap. I were trying to go to karaoke om, but my friends advise me not to go there because they will rip you off. There are many massage parlors that will give HJ too. I have never tried "hot toc" yet. If you guys have new info. please post here so we can all read. thanks guys.

Me Gai
09-17-02, 09:12
hi guys, I'm glad that all the PROs are all back. Maybe this is too early to ask, but I already booked my flight ticket to Vietnam for December. I'm not a stranger to Vietnam. I've been to Saigon a couple of times. I had been to almost all bars and clubs got mention in this forum, but all I can find is typical Vietnamese girls with small chest and slim body. My questions: Is there a good place to find girls with big boobs? fake is ok. How to hook up with "models" type girls. Money is no problems. Thanks

PoopieMunster
09-17-02, 12:24
Hey all, I am new to this forum. But I am booked on a month long trip to Vietnam, and was wondering where I could get some "stay wives", meaning someone to have the time I am there...as well as where to find working girls that have a place of their own.

Erik
09-17-02, 22:33
Taodan,
Could you please tell us more to help and locate more precaisely this "BJ coffe shop" in go Vap ? Thanks.

Taodan
09-18-02, 02:52
Erik,
You need to go with local people; otherwise, you won't be able to tell which one offer BJ Coffee Shop. When I went with my friends, they told me many of the good ones were shut down because of the gov't crackdown.


Originally posted by Erik
Taodan,
Could you please tell us more to help and locate more precaisely this "BJ coffe shop" in go Vap ? Thanks.

crt415
09-21-02, 15:05
Coco Beach,
I will be in VN in Nov. I am Vietnamese and now in Bay area. Anybody will be in VN in Nov to Dec and want to get together and have fun, please email me at crt415@yahoo.com

RatuFreddie
09-24-02, 04:10
hello dity d. and everybody else

some more specific directions would be appreciated, hoa son karaoke is located in which street/number?
also, do you have a street number for your great hot toc? will be much easier to locate...numbers are usually on the business sign outside the shop, or maybe a neighboring number!
your efforts are appreciated

Vietkieu
09-30-02, 14:05
hi all,
i see a lot of posting now. let me see if i can try to answer some of the questions posted. about the hoc toc place..it's on the quoc lo (the main road that leads out of saigon). most taxi drivers know about this place. there are lots of cafe om in thanh da. usually the ones with the little coconut trees in front means there are girls. i went to one my last trip because i know the owner there. i took the loverly girl to eat and listen to viet music before going back to my hotel for the night...cost for me was only $3 because the girl was willing to go for free. i know how to get there but i don't really know how to show others to get there though. i'm sure there are lots of places like that in thanh da though. best bet is to find local connections.
there are lots of karaoke places but not worth the money spent there. the girls will go with you for $21 but the cost at the place is like $50 because the girls drink and open everything they see. they get yelled at if they didn't. for that price, i rather go to a club or bar and pick up a nicer looking girl with more class. most people go to karaoke bars only to do business and sign contracts.
but for those interested..there is one on 275 le thanh ton...across for the new world hotel. it'll say karaoke so can't miss it. it's one of the better ones.
i have been to local brothels. the one i went to have some nice looking girls with big breasts too. i can't find that place again if my life depends on it because you have to make a thousand turns in some small streets. the local people knows and it caters to local people. i tried a few other spots like that but nothing good. most of those places have girls that are ugly and also can't go with you. only action there and cost with tip is $5. the girls are usually from the countryside and can't leave even if they want to. they also have sex with many local guys everyday so up to you though. i did enjoy the one that i went to though.
about hotels...most 3 stars hotels will let girls up. i see no problems there at all. most of those hotels will cost about $17 per night so stick to the price. most vietkieu stay there. if you are going to stay for a month..you might want to rent an apartment with a/c and everything fo about $200 a month. i have mentioned dai loc on 271 le thanh ton...right next door to the karaoke place or tan hai long on le lai..near ben thanh market. both are in the heart of all the action...which is district 1.
about girls who will spend the month with you..there are so many. i would just go clubbing or to a bar and pick up a girl for free. they would love to hang out with you and take u places. if you want to pay for it then same place hihi. just try the clubs like blue and speed....see if you like the girls there.
not many girls in vietnam have big breasts. i know there are some in other asian countries but not in vietnam. about model girls...you can find them at model/fashion shows. i have no problem asking them out on dates and none have refuse so far. i'm on the shy type but sometimes have to be brave. i'm just average looking at best so be confident.
i'm going to go back to vn again on jan. 3th. anyone interested can email me at minhnh2@aol.com. also i will answer questions for those that are gentlemen.
minh

Julytien
10-01-02, 11:23
Hello is anyone on this board in ho chi minh right now I am leaving soon, but if anyone wants to go out on the town this friday let me know at luongcam@hotmail.com

Me Gai
10-05-02, 13:00
Thanks VietKieu for the repply. I just wonder why not many Vietnamese girls get implant in Vietnam. Maybe because of the cost? About Fashion show. How do I get info about when a fashion show will take place? Do you need some kind of back stage pass to ask those girls out? I heard that there are brothel places that offer "model" girls. I know it'd better to ask a model out and get to know them before anything, but I'd rather have those time to do my own bussiness. I"m in a tight schedule in Vietname. I will only have 3 weeks, and I have to visit alot of places and people too.

RatuFreddie
10-07-02, 06:50
short update on current scene in hcmc:

apocalypse: alive and thumbing, best on friday nights, girl/men ratio about 2:1, some lookers, some average, going price LT USD 50, ST USD 30, please do not pay more!!!

bars in hai ba trung area: samesame as always, prices as AN, girls seem to have done the rotating game recently

streetwalkers: always possible, the ones on dong khoi (on motorbikes) are definitely not recommended!
otherwise ST 10, LT 25

other discos like sped and blue, similar AN, although some girls really have no connection to reality, NEVER pay more than 50 USD LT, ( current salary for a factory worker 50 USD MONTHLY!!!)
when you get asked 70 - 100 USD, just laugh at them, for everyone refusing there will be 5 eager for USD 50!

anybody has more specific infos on the hottoc scene and brothels in saigon?

EnjoyGuy
10-17-02, 16:35
Crack down on prostitution is going on in VN. So, you guys will have to stay low for a while. Best bets are KTVs adn get the girls out, or girls on motobike, but be extra careful.
Read this page.
http://vnexpress.net/Vietnam/Xa-hoi/2002/10/3B9C11EC/
The prime minister has asked the police to crack down a week ago.

Erik
10-18-02, 12:19
Was that a general call aimed mainly at the population in general, or is it likely to involve the foreigners' sector as well ? Sometime police make the difference, for economic reasons.

Taodan
10-18-02, 21:51
Erik,
It was a PM's decree so regardless of which sector police will go after. Recently, the vice squad busted a group of Korean men were having sex with prostitutes at the hotel after they met at the karaoke parlor in 1st District.


Originally posted by Erik
Was that a general call aimed mainly at the population in general, or is it likely to involve the foreigners' sector as well ? Sometime police make the difference, for economic reasons.

hairydude
10-19-02, 18:30
Hello all, so we know something is going on in HCMC. A bad news for a guy like me....who's getting there in a week or so.
So how does it look in HCMC? Is it pretty dead at nightclubs and all? How are the people(girls and expats) reacting to this....policy? Is it still OK to bring girls to hotel rooms? What about the massage parlors? Are they being raided too? Thanks for the info.

RatuFreddie
10-20-02, 06:17
hairydude,

do not worry you will find enough girls around. AN basically has the same number of girls, as well as HBT bars and massage places. the only difference really is that everything, with the exception of some girlie bars, closes at 12.00. so don't wait too long.
this action is just in order to present a credible face and secure overseas aid in the fight against traficking. etc
the real situation does not change in hcmc

10-22-02, 15:00
Has anyone tried the Medusa Club behind the Amara Hotel in District 3? Just wondering what to expect to pay and if they have ST rooms on the premises for FS. Thanks in advance.

jungleman
10-24-02, 15:18
I know that this isn't the purpose of this discussion group but please could someone tell me where is a good department store in HCM City, preferably in District 1, where I shall be for a day. This is just to buy some regular clothes and shoes (nothing ethnic).
Also a nice big supermarket.

Thanks for all the info. on the shagging; I just want to do a bit of shopping as well this time I'm in HCM City.

RatuFreddie
10-25-02, 08:57
good ( and expensive) department store is diamond plaza, right smack in the center of town, near cathedral. you might also go to dong khoi street and try and find something in all the little shops that line this street.

adorateurseins
10-25-02, 18:11
Friends,

I'm new here and i must say after reading your messages i feel very excited. Some of you are lucky to have beautiful Vietgirls. Have you, by chance, got pictures of them (esp. those with big tits, my type! :-))? Pls share these photos.

Thanks
Adorateurseins
(sorry for my bad English)

RatuFreddie
10-26-02, 03:16
had to try something new last night and went to medusa club, behind amara hotel.
had never been there before, but heard a lot about it, so i was of course quite curious.
arrived about 9.00 pm, walked into the ground floor lounge, sat on one of the very comfortable sofas there, waiting for things to happen. first impression - place is very stylish..and very empty.
soon the mamasan approached me asking if i desired company. a few minutes later she brought about 10 girls, that had been hiding upstairs, to my table for selection. 5 - 7's, not such a great menue. anyway found one girl to my liking and asked her to sit down with me.
as this visit was only for reconnoissance i was happy that she could speak reasonable english and explain to me the set up.
here is a quick overview of prices mentioned:

table charge ( that's a charge for you to sit down at a table, without girl) USD 10 ( i think if you decide to sit at the bar this charge will not apply)
girl charge USD 10 + drinks (my girl drank milk (!) which was USD 3.00 a glass, my gin tonic USD 5.00)

if you would like to sit in one of the numerous karaoke rooms upstairs the cost for this is usd 40 ++ (drinks etc)
i think this does not incl any action except groping!

you will be asked pretty bluntly by the waiters or mamasan after a while if you want to take the girl to an amara hotel room, other venues obviously not possible.
cost for room USD 45.00 short time or overnight
Girl ST USD 70, LT 100 USD
might be able to negotiate this!

usual patrons here are asian business men (korea, taiwan, japan etc) so prices tend to be extremely high. girls also additionally expect tips!

it was mentioned that there are more than 100 girls working here, and i realized after a while that, although the place seemed empty, there was constant coming and going into the karaoke rooms. saw some lookers too, but maybe i was too late/early/not looking rich enough to be presented with them.

all in all it looks like an easy and safe sanuk place if you don't mind spending the money. we all know of course from past experiences that high price does not gurantee a high level of service, so i passed on this yesterday and went home alone.

Erik
10-26-02, 13:58
Ratufreddie,
What a coincidence that I decided me too to know a bit more about this place yesterday evening. Maybe we met... I did not even sit down, I just asked the young and tall mamasan about the prices and got the same info as you. As I asked durectly if it was possible to take a girl out and how much, she answered ''of course, no proble.'' ST means 2 hours, 70USD, and overnight 100usd. The only thing I did not know is the 10 USD X 2 for sitting with a girl. She had just mentionned 10 USD for chatting with girl. I did not know also that the hotel have a specail rate of 45usd for the customerse of the club. The reception quotes 60usd for the cheapest room. The few I saw seemed to be really beautifull girls, who seem can be seen walking on the different floors of the hotel, going from the club to the rooms. I might try next time, if the mamasan garanties the service. The more beaautifull the girls are, the worst service is, especially with the Vietnamese.
Whoevers want to have a try please report here about quality of service.

Vietkieu
10-26-02, 23:36
Hi all,
About the department store...cho ben thanh is in district 1 but please do bargain a lot...like more than 50% of the price. I think diamond plaza is nice and have bowling too.
I have a trip planned for the end of december...4 days in thailand and then to vietnam. Anyone want to meet up...email me.

Taodan
10-29-02, 22:55
Fire at Blue Disco.
According to several news sources, there was a big fire broke out at the Blue Disco and quickly spread to other floors at the International Trading Center in HCM City. There were 54 people died and many injuries and the number could climb higher. So for now, if the Blue Disco is on anyone's list then start to look for other place to pick up chicks. Having fun and enjoy your trip guys.

Erik
10-30-02, 20:28
I hear about a 3 days closedown of entertainment places to mourn for the 100 victims or so of the Trade center fire.

Back on the subject of Medusa club, when I saw the scene the other day, and the pretty young girls with decollete, on their hight hell shoes, I felt I definitelly should have to come back with 100 USD in my pocket, on my next trip. Now that I am in Bangkok, I have reasonned with myself : for the amount of money that it would cost me in Medusa, I can have 3 superb Thai girls from the best gogo bars of Nana Plaza. As beautifull and young as the Viet girls of Medusa, speaking more english, and, I am sure, with a quality of service more garantied than in Medusa...

RatuFreddie
10-31-02, 06:37
erik, i'm with you there, usd 100 in asia is just too expensive!
in my opinion the service cannot be ever so good to spend that kind of money ( a casual laborer, for example garment industry, monthly salary around USD 50).
for this reason i enjoy my little escapes to BKK

another option, certainly more time consuming; there are heaps of vietnam girls on the known friend/love connection sites. try and make contact with them prior to your arrival. good chances for sucess.

Erik
11-01-02, 00:31
Ratufreddie,
Seems we have more than one idea in common : I "met" a 20 Years old girl on internet a few months ago. We have been exchanging emails, then she sent me her photos, she looked quite pretty on the photos. Last week, when I arrived in HCM City, I called her, we met in my hotel, and I was a bit desappointed : she was not as attractive as she looked on the photos. You know the kind of photos made in studios, in traditionnal dress !
It is an embarrassing situation. I took her to restaurant, I offered her the small present I had bought for her. What else could I do ? I am a gentleman and I did not feel just telling her "sorry miss, you are not as fuckable as I thought, you can go back home, bye bye, good luck next time". I won't try again to meet girls on internet.

jonsintown
11-01-02, 23:50
Re Erik Internet picture (can't be) Blind Date.

Hi,
Same sort of thing happened to me in Indonesia.
I took a much older thing out to dinner, told her
straight and gave her a generous taxi fare home.
I felt very embarassed and a bit of a bas..d.

We must remember though, that this part of the
world can be very cruel. I think you handled that
stuation quite well.

regards.

RatuFreddie
11-02-02, 07:37
erik, i had a different experience
only one try and good sucess, maybe lucky.
when are u returning to hcmc?
we should definetely have a coffee together and swap stories

stevee
11-27-02, 01:55
Two important questions for a new expat in town:

The horny one: Anyone aware of any action around Q12 at all?

The serious one: What place in town is best for landing a nice educated girlfriend (no pay)?

dirty D.
12-14-02, 05:00
HELLO FELLAS, SORRY FOR NOT POSTING IN A WHILE. I HAVEN'T READ THE POSTINGS LATELY BECAUSE I GET TOO DEPRESSED DOING SO! THATS BECAUSE I AM BACK IN THE STATES NOW WITH MY WIFE. BOY DO I EVER MISS ALL THE ACTION IN VIETNAM. HOPE YOU ALL ARE DISCOVERING NEW PLACES TO GET SOME GREAT ACTION. IN THIS POSTING I TELL YOU ABOUT THE CAFE OMS. THE ONES I USUALLY FEQUENT ARE IN GO VAP DISTRICT. I FORGOT THE NAME OF THE STREET BUT TRY THIS OUT. GO NORTH ON HA BA TRUNG STREET TO GO VAP DISTRICT. HA BA TRUNG TURNS INTO NGUYEN KIEM STREET IN GO VAP. AFTER THE ROUND A BOUT YOU GO STRAIGHT AHEAH ( ACTUALLY THE ROAD VIERS SLIGHTLY TO THE LEFT AND IS NO LONGER NGUYEN KIEM STREET) WHEN YOU SEE A BOOK STORE ON THE LEFT THAT IS WHERE YOU TURN LEFT. ALL THE CAFE OMS ARE ON THE LEFT. GO LATER IN THE EVENNING. SOME OF THEM ARE OPEN WAY PASS MIDNIGHT. AND SOME OF THEM WILL ARANGE GOOD OUT CALLS FOR YOU. (IF YOU PICK THE RIGHT PLACE) THE GIRLS WILL GIVE YOU A BJ AT THE VERY LEAST. THEY USUALLY SERVICE THE LOCALS SO IF A FORIEGNER OR A VIET KIEU COME IN THAT'L MAKE THEIR DAY. HOPE THIS HELP. ONE LAST TID BIT, I RECOMMEND FOR ALL THE EXPATS TO WORK OUT AT LAN AHN HEALTH CLUB ON CACH MANG THANG TAM STREET . A GREAT PLACE TO COLLECT INTEL AND EVEN MEET HOT CHICKS. MOST EVERYONE SPEAKS ENGLISH THERE AND VERY FRIENDLY. BEFRIEND A LOCAL BODY BUILDER THERE NAME mr. TAI. HE IS VERY FRIENDLY AND WILL HELP YOU FIND WHAT YOU WANT. WELL THIS WILL LIKELY BE MY LAST POSTING IN VIETNAM. ANY OF YOU ALL CAN EMAIL ME IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION. I'LL BE GLAD TO HELP IF I CAN. FOR NOW I WILL STAY IN THE STATES FOR YEAR OR TWO, THEN MY FAMILY AND I WILL BE OFF TO GERMANY! I CAN'T WAIT. DON'T ASK ME HOW I GOT SO DAMN LUCKY BUT I FOUND A HOT WIFE THAT IS INTO SWINGING. FFM, AND MMF VARIETY. WE PLAN TO INDULGE IN GERMANY SOMEDAY SOON I HOPE. THEY DON'T CALL ME DIRTY DOG FOR NOTHING. C-YA ALL. AND TAKE CARE. PERHAPS I WILL POST INFO ON THE STATES AND OFCOURSE GERMANY WHEN THE TIME COMES. LASTLY IF ANY OF YOU EMAIL ME, MY REPLY MAY TAKE SOME TIME. I CHECK MY EMAIL ONLY ONCE A WEEK. EVEN THOUGH I HAVE A P.C. IN MY HOUSE. BEST OF LUCK. BYE.

kiemgai
12-17-02, 06:12
I am in Saigon, now. If anyone want to meet up & go out, have some fun together. Let me know
at kevint888@yahoo.com

Vietkieu
12-23-02, 07:07
hi all,
i'm getting ready for my trip to bangkok and then vn with someone i met on wsg. can't wait because i'm leaving in less then a week. i will bring my pen and paper to write things down this time. i want to give a better and more detailed report of all the places. i was asked why viet girls don't get fake breast...it's because of the cost and being looked down. girls don't wear dress often because of motorbike..hard to sit on with dress and also the scars from the mufflers. i forgot all the other questions so ask again.
i'm actually getting married with a girl there even though i met her only a few times. going to be a little busy but willing to meet up with some of you for some action. i will get a report when i get back.
i know blue burned down and now speed and phuong dong are really crowded. lots of vietkieu this season so i hope things don't get to crazy.

RatuFreddie
12-23-02, 16:20
saigon is alive and rocking this christmas. even with the crackdown still going on, early closing hours and so, there are many new girls in town. generally a good selection. the longer i stay here the more convinced i get that there are many very beautiful women here and many of them enjoy sex very much (and often). that does not mean that they would do it with me for free, but the spirit of the GFE is easy to find.
good places are all discos and nightclubs, of course AN but also the more local ones. pricing can vary wildly, depending on the circumstances $ 15 to $200.
girlie bars have their outside lightning rarely switched on these days but business seems as usual. there are the ones with in house BJ service, or takeout, if that's your pleasure.
there is a lot to discover here and of course prostitution is and has been part of this society for a long time and there is a large and varied local scene that is basically off limits to foreigners.

Erik
01-08-03, 20:22
Has anyone ever tryied one of the expansive girls of Medusa Club in Amara Hotel ? I'd like to know how was the service. Do the girls offer a kind of standardized service, garantied by mamasan, so that you are sure to get minimum items like shower toghether, BJ, etc ? Or does it depend of any girl.
Thanks.

blowmeup
01-15-03, 09:48
I'm going to Vietnam, specifically Ho Chi Minh City, this coming July, 2003. This will be my second time there. Anybody interested in meeting me there for some fun? I did not do much when I was there the first time, so I'm going to do something this time.

Erik
01-16-03, 00:26
Any update on the sex scene in Vung Tau recently, please ?

Cavechu
01-18-03, 17:36
Originally posted by blowmeup
I'm going to Vietnam, specifically Ho Chi Minh City, this coming July, 2003. This will be my second time there. Anybody interested in meeting me there for some fun? I did not do much when I was there the first time, so I'm going to do something this time.

are you Viet or asian??

blowmeup
01-20-03, 12:28
Originally posted by AMPGuest
are you Viet or asian?? I'm Vietnamese chinese. I was originally born in the Chinese community in Ho Chi Minh city. I can still speak 75% Vietnamese.

Rumpus
01-21-03, 07:57
I'll be in HCM City in March... Any recommendations on places to stay that are "near the action"? Ideally not terribly expensive, relatively clean, A/C, bath, and either patient with non-VN folk, or english-speaking...?

thanks!

Taodan
01-31-03, 00:28
What's up with Vietnam forum? Where all the mongers in Vietnam? Please post up some action reports.

blowmeup
02-01-03, 21:09
Originally posted by taodan
What's up with Vietnam forum? Where all the mongers in Vietnam? Please post up some action reports.

Don't know if you know this place. It's a hotel called "Hoang Nhat"
Address is: 18 Bui Vien St. District 1 - HCM City
Tel: 8.367958

$50/hour - FS. Don't know how much the others (hj, bj) cost. Will send in a girl one at a time for you to pick. Place is clean with a/c, bath before and after. Chicks are not bad and damn horny.

Taodan
02-02-03, 00:30
Originally posted by blowmeup
Don't know if you know this place. It's a hotel called "Hoang Nhat"
Address is: 18 Bui Vien St. District 1 - HCM City
Tel: 8.367958

$50/hour - FS. Don't know how much the others (hj, bj) cost. Will send in a girl one at a time for you to pick. Place is clean with a/c, bath before and after. Chicks are not bad and damn horny.

Gentleman,
What was your experience with the girl(s) there (e.g., attitude, look, etc....)

Erik
02-02-03, 03:49
Originally posted by blowmeup
Don't know if you know this place. It's a hotel called "Hoang Nhat"
Address is: 18 Bui Vien St. District 1 - HCM City
Tel: 8.367958

$50/hour - FS. Don't know how much the others (hj, bj) cost. Will send in a girl one at a time for you to pick. Place is clean with a/c, bath before and after. Chicks are not bad and damn horny.

Sounds expensive for this area. Basically all girls in the Pham Ngu Lao area can be had for 300.000 to 400.000 VND.

blowmeup
02-02-03, 17:49
Originally posted by taodan
Gentleman,
What was your experience with the girl(s) there (e.g., attitude, look, etc....)

Looked pretty good, an "8" from a scale of 1 to 10. Nice attitude too. Had no problem with the way she treated me. Well, maybe because I can speak Vietnamese too. She even took me around HCMC after the service, well, of course, I had to pay for her portion of lunch/dinner.

blowmeup
02-02-03, 17:51
Originally posted by Erik
Sounds expensive for this area. Basically all girls in the Pham Ngu Lao area can be had for 300.000 to 400.000 VND.

Yeah, I think I got ripped off. Also, I got the girl thru mamasan, and that already was the reason why I had to pay more. If I picked up the girl myself, I'm sure it would have been much cheaper, around 300.000 to 400.000 like you said.

RatuFreddie
02-03-03, 05:22
$50 should buy LT, overnight, GFE experience. i never pay more than that, although girls surely do ask for more. keep in mind monthly salary garment factory $40!
these girls are making in one night what their sisters and cousins make in one month.
went to AN last nght, very crowded, a different mix during the holidays. finally left alone, no surprises in the line up unfortunately. went on to linda's and got a girl from there, nice experience, the works. $50 overnight, sex as you please.

blowmeup
02-03-03, 08:56
Originally posted by ratufreddie
$50 should buy LT, overnight, GFE experience. i never pay more than that, although girls surely do ask for more. keep in mind monthly salary garment factory $40!
these girls are making in one night what their sisters and cousins make in one month.
went to AN last nght, very crowded, a different mix during the holidays. finally left alone, no surprises in the line up unfortunately. went on to linda's and got a girl from there, nice experience, the works. $50 overnight, sex as you please.

Yeah, this sounds just like Pattaya, Thailand, except that services in Thailand are usually cheaper, and there are more chicks to pick.

Vigo
02-03-03, 10:43
Sorry if it's answered somewhere else but I'm coming to Vietnam in the next few days. What is AN? Also Where is Lindas?

Jimbehr2000
02-04-03, 08:07
AN is the famous bar Apocolpyse Now. In March, I'm taking my first trip to Hanoi, HCMC, and a coastal destination to be decided later. I'm not familiar with Linda's.

RatuFreddie
02-04-03, 09:07
Linda's is one of the bars in the Hai Ba Trung area, often these bars are referred to as kissing bars, although at linda's more oral action can be had in- or outtake.

Vigo
02-05-03, 09:38
Many Thanks,

Last question I'm thinking of staying at the Rex or Bon Seng Hotel. Are these hotels girl friendly?

Asiaphile
02-05-03, 17:05
Vigo - Pathetic Rex is govt owned and NOT guest friendly like ALL such hotels controlled by the communist regime. B.S. is a joke where the gay towel boy will push you for a silly HJ from the staff massage girls.

Good luck newbie!

RatuFreddie
02-05-03, 17:05
vigo,
neither one is easy, though maybe not impossible. generally, be very discreet, don't make a fuss,you might be lucky. other wise use one of many mini hotels by the hour.

bgwody
02-09-03, 03:20
Heading to Ho Chi Minh next week for work. Hear the girls at AN are pushy and expensive but I am not one for picking up random girls on the street. What is the best place to go to? I am staying at the New World Hotel, any chance getting a girl into that place? Interested in any and all advice.

bgwody
02-09-03, 06:42
Heading to HCMC on the 16th. Heard the girls at AN are pushy and expensive, but not that fond of picking up on the street. What are other clubs to meet girls that are nice and reasonable (not cheap, just reasonable)? Staying at New Worrld Hotel, any thoughts? Good place, can you get a girl in there? Any other advice would be great, it is my first trip.

Rumpus
02-10-03, 04:38
I'll be in HCMC in early march. Any advice on hotels? I was going to do what LP suggests, make a reservation for one night, and then find hotel space there in person after you arrive (better bargaining ability), any thoughts on that?

Any favorite moderate to nice hotels? The prices I see listed for New World seem a bit high for VN... Somebody else recommended the "Prince Hotel" (Saigon Prince, I'm assuming). Any thoughts?

I'd like somewhere nice, since I'm going to be spending time with "regular" girls and impressing them with a nice hotel may help. ;-) But without payng through the nose...

gotlaid?
02-12-03, 10:40
hey guys....no need to stay at fancy dancy hotels that will cost you an arm and a leg. you're better off staying at a 3 star hotel and spend most of your money on the girls. i highly recommend the evergreen hotel which i stayed for over a week on my last visit less than a month ago. its located at 261 hai ba trung street so you're basically minutes away from all the happening spots. the going rate is 20 bucks a night which is inexpensive compared to new world and saigon prince which goes for 80 a night. get to know the night shift at the evergreen hotel and they'll let you bring in whomever you like at the middle of the night without any hassles. is it usually two younger vietnamese guys that works the front at night so just be nice to them and they'll even help you find the girls you want. girls can be had left and right even without paying for it because these girls digs us foreigners and vietkieus. but if you like to spend a night with the most gorgeous girl check out club speed and liquid. here is where all the hottest action could be found....good music, electricfying atmosphere, and beautiful model like quality girls for your pickings...i thought i was dreamming when i walked in..haha...ask them over for a drink and they'll glady come over and provide company. if you dont end up taking her to your hotel be considerate and tip them 10 bucks for their time. and if you want to take it a step further 50 bucks should be right price to pay depending on the girl. some will insist you pay a little more because of their looks so its up to you whether to fork out extra. but cmon guys. 100 for a night of all you can eat pussy buffet is well worth it and cheaper than amp's.. i honestly didnt do anything with these girls and i fucking regret i didnt now that im back in the states..unlike most of the members here, im a poor college student so you can understand why i couldnt do much but if anyone has more questions feel free to ask.

Taodan
02-13-03, 01:21
originally posted by gotlaid?
. girls can be had left and right even without paying for it because these girls digs us foreigners and vietkieus. but if you like to spend a night with the most gorgeous girl check out club speed and liquid. here is where all the hottest action could be found....good music, electricfying atmosphere, and beautiful model like quality girls for your pickings...i thought i was dreamming when i walked in..haha...ask them over for a drink and they'll glady come over and provide company. if you dont end up taking her to your hotel be considerate and tip them 10 bucks for their time. and if you want to take it a step further 50 bucks should be right price to pay depending on the girl. some will insist you pay a little more because of their looks so its up to you whether to fork out extra. but cmon guys. 100 for a night of all you can eat pussy buffet is well worth it and cheaper than amp's.. i honestly didnt do anything with these girls and i fucking regret i didnt now that im back in the states..unlike most of the members here, im a poor college student so you can understand why i couldnt do much but if anyone has more questions feel free to ask.

gentleman,
are you serious that you did not f...k any girls there? so what's the point you went to the club for? just to drink and look at the girls? i am with you. it is a regretful :-(

btw: how long did you stay in vietnam? and how much did you spend on airlines ticket?

gotlaid?
02-13-03, 09:08
Hahha..not even man...closing thing was to sex was caressing the chicks...I'm a party guy and I went to those main clubs to dance and have a good time. Having those girls around was a bonus and only if i had a little more money I might have spent some time with them.

I went for christmas and stayed for a total of 25 days and i had to make 800 dollars last so you can understand why i didnt do anything. My plane ticket from San Francisco to Saigon cost a total of 1280 including visa which is quite expensive but it was a last minute thing and I really wanted to go so i paid it. Perhaps this upcoming Christmas I might go again to visit a few relatives and to relax and if I do, I'll definitely bring more cash and be more prepared.

Meaty
02-14-03, 06:21
Hi to everyone,
I'm new to the Vietnam part of the board so appreciate your help here. I've just arrived in Saigon and am working to a very tight budget but enjoy beer and honey as much as the next guy. Is there anyone in Saigon now that fancys hooking up for a beer and showing me the sights? As i say budget is tight so it'll need to be the lower end but i'm sure there must be some fellow mongers who fancy it!
I'll be working in Saigon for the next 2 weeks, and then back again in about 6 weeks time, so feel free to drop me a line,

MeatyWSG@hotmail.com

Of course all excursions will be posted here for all to enjoy.
Looking forward to it.

Meaty
02-15-03, 07:54
Hi Guys,
Just another quick one, It would appear from first glance that Saigon seems to finish up at 12am, even last night (Friday) I know theres AN until 2am(?) but surely theres more places that we can goto for a few more beers, music, honey, other than the tiny hole in the wall mafia gaffs or AN.
Any ideas? (i know the obvious answer is Bangkok :-) but i'm hoping theres somewhere in Saigon.)

Jimbehr2000
02-16-03, 08:02
sorry guys but i'll be visiting vietnam for the first time march 3-9 so i have a few questions. gotlaid, what percentage of the girls at club speed and liquid are available at a price? is it most of them? also i would like to join rumpus in asking about hotels. i'm think about bong seng, new world, or maybe saigon prince. i don't mind spending up to $80 per nite. i need two things 1) a safe preferably in room but at the desk is ok and 2) a good location. is an near the tourist area, i plan to go there each night for a little bit. also are any of the hotels i mentioned near an or dong koi (the main drag in town.) thanks for any help.

gotlaid?
02-16-03, 12:07
Jimbehr2000,

Id have to say 90 percent of the girls you see inside those clubs and bars are call girls that could be had for the night if offered the right price. I thought my friends were joking and over exaggerating but performed a test to show me and sure enough 9 out of 10 girls were there to find work. As far as the hotel, I think its a waste to stay at those high end hotels as you are only there to sleep at night since you're out traveling around most of the time so who cares if its not up to american standards. Evergreen hotel is where I stayed and the cheapest room theyve got runs for 20 bucks a night and its comparable to a motel 6 and for 30 you can get a double bed room thats like a room you find at a Marriot courtyard. They have fre breakfast and other services too. All those hotels youve just mentioned are all clusted together in dist 1 which is the main spot to be in saigon so either one will do. I heard from a friend that stayed at Prince Hotel has seen a karaoke bar there filled with working girls so stay there a night and tell me what u find.

Jimbehr2000
02-18-03, 07:12
Thanks for the info. I'll be spending a week there total. probably 2 nites in Hanoi, 1-2 somewhere near Da Nang-Hoi Am area, and 3 in Saigon, and time permitting 1-2 nites in Na Trang. Its my first trip there so I want to see a little of whatever I can fit in the trip. Wish I had more time. I'm a little concerned I won't have enough nitelife in the beach areas. I'm more of a city guy than a beach guy. Hope W can keep his hand off the trigger long enough for me to go and get back.

Monkeyboi
02-18-03, 09:24
How can you tell if they are providers? Did your friend do the squeeze test? I've lived in Southern California all my life and it's hard to tell who's a provider. It's quite common for the regular girls to dress slutter than the providers in Southern California. So you can't just walk up to a slutty-looking woman and throw out a number. Can some veterans here describe the step-by-step procedure to score with a hot disco girl in VN?


Originally posted by gotlaid?
Jimbehr2000,

Id have to say 90 percent of the girls you see inside those clubs and bars are call girls that could be had for the night if offered the right price. I thought my friends were joking and over exaggerating but performed a test to show me and sure enough 9 out of 10 girls were there to find work. As far as the hotel, I think its a waste to stay at those high end hotels as you are only there to sleep at night since you're out traveling around most of the time so who cares if its not up to american standards. Evergreen hotel is where I stayed and the cheapest room theyve got runs for 20 bucks a night and its comparable to a motel 6 and for 30 you can get a double bed room thats like a room you find at a Marriot courtyard. They have fre breakfast and other services too. All those hotels youve just mentioned are all clusted together in dist 1 which is the main spot to be in saigon so either one will do. I heard from a friend that stayed at Prince Hotel has seen a karaoke bar there filled with working girls so stay there a night and tell me what u find.

Jimbehr2000
02-19-03, 07:49
Monkeyboi I live in So Cal too. I'll be in Vietnam on next week for the first time. But from I've heard it goes like this: In Southern Cali assume the girls are not pros. In Vietnam assume they probably are pros.

Meaty
02-20-03, 07:44
I've heard whispers of 'barber shops' offering extra services, in fact some of them don't even cut hair at all. BBBJ goes for around D100,000 ($6). Does anyone have info on these places, location, price, service, girls etc.

I'm still looking for a monging buddy, feel free to drop me a line at MeatyWSG@hotmail.com if you fancy showing a newby around in Saigon.

GotLaid? Cheers for the info, i'll drop you a line soon.

M

AGSen03
02-21-03, 23:22
Monkeyboi,

Forget about the dress code. The fact is 90% of the girls who showed up at these club are providers. The one who responded to your direct eye contact will certainly be a green light to move forward. Either approach her or invite her to your table for a drink. If she flow along with your approaching in the openly fashion, you hit the spot . Spend a little time to open up the air between you and her, then ask her if she want to spend time with you at your place. Simple is that ! Of course the money subject will be floated up quickly ... Enjoy and don't forget to post your results !

AsianDude
02-22-03, 23:10
I've never been to Vietnam. So any help would be appreciated. First, is it safe to travel there from the states ? If I want to stay for a week, how much expense is enough to cover hotel(regular, not luxurious ones), meals and some entertainment(girls) ?

Taodan
02-23-03, 22:10
Originally posted by AsianDude
I've never been to Vietnam. So any help would be appreciated. First, is it safe to travel there from the states ? If I want to stay for a week, how much expense is enough to cover hotel(regular, not luxurious ones), meals and some entertainment(girls) ?

dude,
There are many Americans in Vietnam. Don't worry for your well being if you behave yourself. If you are an "asshole" then don't go just stay where you are. Also don't bring your American attitudes to VN because Vietnamese don't need that. You asked a question about expense but didn't give a number then it's very hard to tell. Hotels, meals, and entertainment in VN are not that expensive. For hotels, if they are not luxurious ones, are in the range $25-$50. Good luck and have fun.

AsianDude
02-24-03, 00:33
Originally posted by taodan
dude,
There are many Americans in Vietnam. Don't worry for your well being if you behave yourself. If you are an "asshole" then don't go just stay where you are. Also don't bring your American attitudes to VN because Vietnamese don't need that. You asked a question about expense but didn't give a number then it's very hard to tell. Hotels, meals, and entertainment in VN are not that expensive. For hotels, if they are not luxurious ones, are in the range $25-$50. Good luck and have fun. Hey, if you are an "asshole" and have an "attitude" then you won't be welcome anywhere, not just Vietnam. Thanks for your advice. Even though I am not a cheap guy, $25 - $50 for a midrange hotel seems a bit high considering local economy ? Weather-wise, what is the best time/season to go there ?

Taodan
02-24-03, 04:35
Originally posted by AsianDude
Hey, if you are an "asshole" and have an "attitude" then you won't be welcome anywhere, not just Vietnam. Thanks for your advice. Even though I am not a cheap guy, $25 - $50 for a midrange hotel seems a bit high considering local economy ? Weather-wise, what is the best time/season to go there ?
Dude,
I am sure there are hotels that have lower price range but you get what you paid for. For weather-wise, here is a quote from Lonely Planet web site:
Being only 10.5į above the equator and between 5 and 10m (16-35ft) above sea level, Ho Chi Minh City is almost a template for tropical weather. Temperatures rarely vary from about 30įC (86įF), however the seven or eight month wet season can certainly make things wet, sweaty and generally uncomfortable. Heavy downpours can last for days on end, although the city is largely spared the devastation of typhoons that hit the northern areas on the country. The driest time is between December and April, when the humidity is mercifully down below 60%.

Warriorxxx
02-27-03, 03:10
tao dan.

are you in vn ? i was told speed is gone! is it right? any recommendation for minihotel ? who would allow extra person on short notice as well as other similar to an? i have not been back there for a while and do not remember much.

any one in this forum attending canton fair in april please let me know.

thanks

Taodan
03-01-03, 08:37
originally posted by warriorxxx
tao dan.

are you in vn ? i was told speed is gone! is it right? any recommendation for minihotel ? who would allow extra person on short notice as well as other similar to an? i have not been back there for a while and do not remember much.

any one in this forum attending canton fair in april please let me know.

thanks

sorry, i am not in vn right now. when was the last time you were there? what is canton fair and where is it?

Warriorxxx
03-01-03, 22:00
Tao dan,

I was there back in 93 and for the fair you can see it at
http://www.icecf.com/
It in in China and the city is Guangzhou. Can you email me at kp6022@attbi.com and let me know where,what and how etc in VN. Where are you located?

Thanks.

Taodan
03-02-03, 21:42
Originally posted by warriorxxx
Tao dan,

I was there back in 93 and for the fair you can see it at
http://www.icecf.com/
It in in China and the city is Guangzhou. Can you email me at kp6022@attbi.com and let me know where,what and how etc in VN. Where are you located?

Thanks.
My fellow American,
Are you going to the fair and then stopover to Vietnam? I don't know how long you are going to stay in VN so it's hard to say. Any member here has any idea or tips that can help Mr. "warriorxxx"? Saigon's nightlife scene (i.e., adult entertainment) is different from BKK's because it's not obvious but in a subtle way. In recent weeks, police raided some hotels when the girl(s) and her client were in action in their room. So be careful!!!!

Erik
03-05-03, 15:02
I read a article recently saying that police in HCM City has started a crackdown on dancers or performers who wear sexy cloths or too suggestive cloths, as they don't fit with the vietnamese traditional moral. Could anyone explain me what kind of shows and places it was refering, as I never saw anything like a a gogo bar in HCN city.
Thanks.

Taodan
03-05-03, 23:51
Originally posted by Erik
I read a article recently saying that police in HCM City has started a crackdown on dancers or performers who wear sexy cloths or too suggestive cloths, as they don't fit with the vietnamese traditional moral. Could anyone explain me what kind of shows and places it was refering, as I never saw anything like a a gogo bar in HCN city.
Thanks.
Erik,
There is no go go bar in HCM city. There were some bars allowed the hostesses to strip nude, but they were raided and closed down by the gov't.

MrMeyers
03-06-03, 07:16
anyone know if liquid and speed are still the best current places to pick up quality women? i was just in hcmc 2 weeks ago but did not get a chance to check them out. apoclypse now is okay but i am getting a little too well known there. i'll be back next week and i appreciate any info on other discos. the girl bars are okay also but hard to find a young fresh women in those places.

Marco Pole
03-07-03, 02:49
hey guys,

just finished reading through the entire thread here and i think i now have a better idea now of what to expect. thanks for the great reports.

i'm leaving for sea in two weeks for my second trip to the region but my first to vietnam. so i have a few questions i'm hoping you might be able to answer.

1. i plan on going back to cambodia again and have heard that it's possible to enter vietnam by land. is this true, and if so, does anyone have any info about the length of the journey and costs involved? in other words, is it less of a hassle to just fly from phnom penh?

2. from the posts, it seems like the prices for girls varies pretty drastically depending on where you find a lady. is the $50 lt - $25 st a pretty good standard to go by?

3. what's the real update on the club scene? it sounds like one place burned down and a couple others (speed/liquid?) may be shut down? any other suggestions?

4. i'll be heading out by myself on this trip, so does anyone have any advice regarding security? (i.e. things to watch out for, places to avoid, etc...)

thanks for helping a newbie.

mp

Jimbehr2000
03-07-03, 11:49
i have only spent one night here in hcmc but i can tell you the nightlife is very much alive here. an was very crowded late into the night and some decent girls were available there. an did disappoint me in the large number of guys dressed as women. hai ba trung st kissing bars were jumping as well. one veteran i met here tells me the scene is as alive as it has been in several years. i have two more nites here. i hope to visit some discos (speed, liquid, gossip) if they are still open. i would also like to at least look at the scene in upscale clubs like medusa. i'm told the omni has incredible upscale women but its near the airport. can anyone recommend any massage places? i did bong seng 1 but the girl asked for $80 which seems high for here. i read saigon hotel has good massage but i don't know whether its the same hotel saigon right near bong seng. star inn has been mentioned but nobody here knows about a star inn. looks like i'll be taking a day trip to vung tau tomorrow just to get some rest. but then again i hear vung tau really rocks.

Erik
03-07-03, 15:39
Originally posted by taodan
Erik,
There is no go go bar in HCM city. There were some bars allowed the hostesses to strip nude, but they were raided and closed down by the gov't.

Taodan,
Are you refering to some bars of the Hai Ba Trung area where hostesses wear very light cloth, and would show you their breast if you buy them a drink ? Actually, this article that I read in the Bangkok Post was speaking about ''shows'' of "performers" in indecent cloths. Any idea ? Maybe some sexy 'fashon show'...?

Taodan
03-08-03, 00:16
originally posted by jimbehr2000
i have only spent one night here in hcmc but i can tell you the nightlife is very much alive here. an was very crowded late into the night and some decent girls were available there. an did disappoint me in the large number of guys dressed as women. hai ba trung st kissing bars were jumping as well. one veteran i met here tells me the scene is as alive as it has been in several years. i have two more nites here. i hope to visit some discos (speed, liquid, gossip) if they are still open. i would also like to at least look at the scene in upscale clubs like medusa. i'm told the omni has incredible upscale women but its near the airport. can anyone recommend any massage places? i did bong seng 1 but the girl asked for $80 which seems high for here. i read saigon hotel has good massage but i don't know whether its the same hotel saigon right near bong seng. star inn has been mentioned but nobody here knows about a star inn. looks like i'll be taking a day trip to vung tau tomorrow just to get some rest. but then again i hear vung tau really rocks.

jimbehr2000,
you are in hcm city now. good for you bro. there is one massage parlor named hoang thanh near hoang thanh restaurant on nam ky khoi nghi st in district 1. it's a big massage parlor. if you don't know just tell the taxi driver. most of them know the place. if i remembered correctly, it's 10usd/hr for massage and if you want extra just ask the massage girl. i was given a hj plus some touching (i.e., tits, pussy) for 10usd. i don't know if fs is allowed there. remember to negotiate the price because the girl(s) always give you a high price if you are a foreigner or viet kieu (overseas vietnamese). i was there with some local friends while i went there.
good luck and have fun. and don't forget to write report(s) for us. thanks bro.

Taodan
03-08-03, 00:22
Originally posted by Erik
Taodan,
Are you refering to some bars of the Hai Ba Trung area where hostesses wear very light cloth, and would show you their breast if you buy them a drink ? Actually, this article that I read in the Bangkok Post was speaking about ''shows'' of "performers" in indecent cloths. Any idea ? Maybe some sexy 'fashon show'...?

Erik,
The information I got was from the news in Vietnam so I don't know where they are located at. Some in Govap and Thu Duc districts.

Jimbehr2000
03-08-03, 04:53
taodan: thank you for the info. i will go there if i don't do a day trip to vung tau this morning. vietnam is lots of fun and the town is pretty wide open in this scene. you just have to look a little harder but district 1 is very active.

i can now confirm gossip, club speed are closed. pretty sure liquid is too but i am not 100% sure. hoang lan bar on thai lung street is not open 24 hours anymore as reported in an earlier report. another interesting place i found is a very upscale bar called camarague on bis thi sach street next door to cafe mogambo. its a regular bar and not all girls are on the program but i did notice some that later showed up at an. pickups are not very open here but certainly possible. some nice eye candy to look at though. i also visited u2 a kissing bar just off hai ba trung. my new friend got down to business right away. selection isn't great but i found one that looked good to me. one lady drink and then retireds to the "back room" for fun and games.

i am still looking for two things: 1) greenfields address and a semi-upscale place with an excellent selection to take out for st. if you know boss club in hanoi that's what i'm looking for. boss club impressed the hell out of me. again thanks to all posters here. i printed out much of your info for my trip and it has been invaluable to me.

MrMeyers
03-08-03, 07:58
Jimbehr,

Do you mean Green Hill? That is a hostess bar at 40 Thai Van Lung. Did meet a stunner there back in November who I ended up spending a week with. But did not see much there 2 weeks ago.
Medusa is not too well rated, Catwalk and Queenbee have some beautiful women but it seems that if you are not Asian they don't treat you too well. Or maybe they just thought I was too picky.
I'll be back next week and I wish someone knew what disco the women currently hang out at besides Apoclypes. I appreciate your help guys, and if you are around I'll buy you a beer. ( and maybe even a women if you can steer me in the right direction :)

Jimbehr2000
03-09-03, 04:29
TaoDan thanks for Huang Thanh massage tip. I went yesterday and had a good time. The place is big and was very crowded. After I got there I started to turn around and walk out because I wasn't sure I'd like it being the only Westerner around. A guy there took me on a tour of the facilities and I saw a few girls and that changed my mind.

mrmeyers, I was looking for Green Fields but I now believe you were right and I should have been asking for Green Hill. I don't know about the disco scene here as the places mentioned on this website seem to be closed. The most impressive quality I saw was at Camaruge Restaurant's Vasco Bar (Thai Bis Sach St.) but I think only a small percentage were available. At the very least it wasn't an obvious pick up joint but what the hell do I know. I'm leaving HCMC today for Bangkok. Hope you'll check out Camargue and let us know what you think. Biggest disappointment for me here was Caravelle Hotels's Saigon Saigon Bar. No available women at 11:00PM on a Thursday night. The rooftop view of the city was nice.

Taodan
03-09-03, 06:11
Originally posted by jimbehr2000
TaoDan thanks for Huang Thanh massage tip. I went yesterday and had a good time. The place is big and was very crowded. After I got there I started to turn around and walk out because I wasn't sure I'd like it being the only Westerner around. A guy there took me on a tour of the facilities and I saw a few girls and that changed my mind.


Jimbehr2000,
There are several massage parlors but they are smaller. You the only Westerner there? And you scared being around too many local guys there? They won't harm you as long as you don't do anything stupid :-)
Your report is too brief. Can you elaborate more? How much did you pay? And how was the girl that gave you massage? Etc...
The bar at the hotel you mentioned is high end and I think hardly any working girls there. What about disco clubs? Did you try any of them?

Rude Beast
03-09-03, 11:33
There was a place called Green Fields on Mac Thi Buoi but it closed. U2 offers similar sort of quality and service i.e an area at the back for BJ and some rooms upstairs so you don't necessarily have to buy a girl out. I paid VND 100,00 for a BBBJ after deciding not to go upstairs for VND 300,00.

Quality of the girls there isn't great but the service has usually been good and not overly aggressive on lady drinks.

Taodan
03-10-03, 03:34
This is one of the articles on the news:

Midnight curfew for discos, karaoke bars


HCM CITY - The HCM City People's Committee has slapped a midnight curfew on all dancing and karaoke bars in the southern city from October 9, as part of a major crackdown on discos and bars.

The committee has decreed that all dancing and karaoke bars in public places, including cultural centres, clubs, parks, theatres, cinemas, discotheques, hotels, guest houses, and karaoke bars will be forbidden to operate from midnight to Sam.

Any dancing or karaoke activities which violate operation licences, or break commitments that owners have made to maintain public order will also be hit by the crackdown.
In a bid to reduce the noise when bars and discos are open, the committee has set new sound volume regulations.

Under these regulations, the maximum sound level for karaoke bars and discotheques has been set at 70 decibels from 6am-10pm, and 50 decibels from 1 Opm-12pm.

The committee is also clamping down on drunks, threatening to punish karaoke bars and discotheques which serve already inebriated punters. A ban will also be introduced on sales of drinks containing 30 per cent of alcohol or more.

Any activities which could be seen to incite violence or promote sexual promiscuity will also be banned, as will the employment of people under the age of 18.

The committee said it will only grant two-year operation licences for these ac-tivities according to the city's plan that has been approved by the People's Committee.

Establishments which want to extend their licences must apply to the municipal Department of Culture and Information, one month before the licences expire.

Individuals and organisations that lease rooms for karaoke or discos will also face legal procedures if they break the new laws.

Dukeleto
03-11-03, 23:43
Hi Guys,

I am doing Vietnam from the 19th of March. Know Thailand like the back of my hand but have never been to Vietnam so don't know the scene. If anyone else is going to be there over that time and would like to hook up and show me the ropes in HoMC I would appreciate. Thai chicks will go with me for free (but I always pay) so I wondering if the same will happen here and the best places to go for that? I will definitly be checking out the Gym mentioned in a prevoius posting...can anyone give me more guidance on that issue please (GYM).

MrMeyers
03-13-03, 05:21
taodan,

i am here now and that is old news, places are open way past midnight. tonight i will check out speed and liquid because someone on another board said they were open.

dukeleto,

of course anywhere in the world you can get girls for free, i don't pay to get girls, i pay so they leave and i can be free. especially in vietnam, unless you have no heart, you may want to leave the "good" girls alone because i can assure you that they become very possesive in a short time and unless you are really in love that can be a problem.

Taodan
03-14-03, 00:20
originally posted by mrmeyers

taodan,

i am here now and that is old news, places are open way past midnight. tonight i will check out speed and liquid because someone on another board said they were open.

please check those places out and let us know. thanks





of course anywhere in the world you can get girls for free, i don't pay to get girls, i pay so they leave and i can be free.

that's a bullsh..t statement. please be real, mrmeyers.

MrMeyers
03-14-03, 07:39
Taodan,

What I meant is that at least when you pay a girl there is an understanding there are no strings attached, if you are with one for "free" you pay more one way or another.

I really think you know very little about what is going on here except what you read, and I think you are on this board because you have nothing better to do, so why do care about where to go in Vietnam?

Taodan
03-14-03, 23:54
Originally posted by mrmeyers
Taodan,
I think you are on this board because you have nothing better to do

Another bullsh..t statement.

Erik
03-15-03, 10:03
May I add this very recent experience : I am in Hanoi now. For once, I had decided to try the GF thing. So I dated this very sweet and lovely girl working as a seller in the main shopping center of Hanoi. Took her to cafe, restaurant, jazz club... We met 4 times. I was prepared to go rather slowly. Then she came to my hotel room, some kisses, but french kiss only "After we marry" said she... Don't even mention sex at this stage. I could have tryied and promise her marriage and cheat her, but as I am not a bad guy, I don't want to lie to her. I have decided to stop this experience before I hurt her feelings too much, and I will return to paying girls as soon as this evening : simpler, harmless, more honest, and ... cheaper.

Dukeleto
03-15-03, 12:34
mrmeyers,

thanks for the advice, however the girls as u should know are the same in thailand, however i am very upfront and honest about my intentions...it is completely up to them. anyway they have a good time and so do i and maybe even a lasting friendship.

i have no problem for paying for it and if it is a working girl who i am attracted to and thats what i want, then of course same rules apply and payment negotiated..business as usual.

to everyone

can anyone give me some info. on the kimdo royal city hotel, i see it is in district one...does anyone know if it is girl friendly? or anyother info. also same questions for the grand hotel and the majestic hotel. and for those of you who know saigon which of the 3 is better situated in terms of nightlife / girls / disco's etc.

please could those people currently in saigon relay back to this board which discos are open as of now ie. liquid, speed, an etc. i would really appreciate the feedback.

as per a previous punter i am also keen on large breasted asian women so if anyone can help point me in the right direction if they are aware of any i would appreciate it.

i promise to give feedback on my experience in vietnam, bangkok and of course my backyard phuket.

Dukeleto
03-15-03, 12:54
MRMEYERS,

Second thought with regards your advice. I wonder how the girls would treat me if I looked like a bucket of frogs and got all possesive over a model quality girl who knew her worth (working girl or not) I think a lot less honesty, and lot more squeezing me for deniro. And not a seconds remorse for the pain caused when I am dumped for something better. Just a thought.

Erik
03-18-03, 15:12
Same type of place than Medusa in HCM City, same kind of price :

FORTUNA NIGHTCLUB IN HANOI : RIPP OFF **** DO NOT GO ****

Many girls in the VIP Club of Fortuna Hotel (Hanoi), but not easy to make your choice in the dark. At first, they all look gorgeous, but if you stay long time enough to look carefully at them, you will see that they are actually very average girls, well dressed, on high heels, with super wonderbra to enhanced their average breast. Once naked in your room, it is another story. They charge you 102 USD for ST, and let me tell you that the service I had was crap. The so called 22 years old girl (actually more 32, with one child at least) promitted to "eat me everywhere'. Actually, she hardly performed a BJ, the kind of BJ shey put their hands to hide that they fake sucking, insisting to have the condom ready on the bed... bad ambiance... She then spoke about money every 2 minutes, insisting to be paid upfront, which is against my principle, and I am glad I sticked to it. I had enough and sent her out. As you can imagine, that was not without screaming and big noise in the hotel, and intervention of the reception. Total damage for me : 52 USD.

So much for the posts which advertise "upmarket" places to get a good service. I return to my little barbershops. There, you can find real treasures, and if you have bad luck, you have just lost 5 or 10 USD.

Asiaphile
03-19-03, 03:33
VN has a GDP income of under $400 annual, although it's higher in the largest cities. A factory girl in HCMC makes about $50 month. If she's a hooker on the side or has a sugar daddy then she might have a new moto and cell phone.
The nationl price for sex is MAXIMUM 200000 dong!
Young delicious cuties (18-21 or so) are easily available at many venues (NOT the overpriced clubs) for around 100000 dong - especially outside of tourist trap areas. Unfortunately as long as stupid tourists continue to pay 10 times the going rate the place will soon be ruined just like most of the rest of developed and developing fast Asia.

Meaty
03-19-03, 03:47
Erik>
sorry to hear you got caught out i'll make sure i avoid the place. I'm interested in the barber shops though, is there any you can recommend in HCM City? if so info on location, prices, services and girls would be more than welcomed.

asiaphile>
I completely agree, the prices rise because some of us are unaware of the real price and pay way over the odds. Can you give more info on the venues you describe in your post, ie the 100,000, and 200,000 dong services.

On another note, i've vistited 2 massage/sauna venues, very cheap hourly rate, (50,000 Dong/hr) you get use of the jacuzzi, steam room, sauna, then shown to a small room with a small window in the door. Girl follows you in, no choice of girl, your hour starts then. The most i'v ever got here is a HJ but the girls are wearing short skirts, and skinmpy top uniforms, and i'm sure offer more than this on site, but i wondered if i was going to the wrong type of room. I speak no vietnamese, so cannot ask, but if there is a routine to these places, i'd appreciate any info. Oh, a HJ ranges between 100,000-200,000 extra which is not paid directly to the girl in cash, but rather added to your bill as an agreed tip!!

Taodan
03-19-03, 07:46
Originally posted by Meaty
Erik>
sorry to hear you got caught out i'll make sure i avoid the place. I'm interested in the barber shops though, is there any you can recommend in HCM City? if so info on location, prices, services and girls would be more than welcomed.

asiaphile>
I completely agree, the prices rise because some of us are unaware of the real price and pay way over the odds. Can you give more info on the venues you describe in your post, ie the 100,000, and 200,000 dong services.

On another note, i've vistited 2 massage/sauna venues, very cheap hourly rate, (50,000 Dong/hr) you get use of the jacuzzi, steam room, sauna, then shown to a small room with a small window in the door. Girl follows you in, no choice of girl, your hour starts then. The most i'v ever got here is a HJ but the girls are wearing short skirts, and skinmpy top uniforms, and i'm sure offer more than this on site, but i wondered if i was going to the wrong type of room. I speak no vietnamese, so cannot ask, but if there is a routine to these places, i'd appreciate any info. Oh, a HJ ranges between 100,000-200,000 extra which is not paid directly to the girl in cash, but rather added to your bill as an agreed tip!!

Meaty,
I don't know if you can get FS at the massage parlors in VN given the setting of the room (i.e., door with glass that can be seen through in and outside and the lighting). I may be wrong. Not only barber shops but other venues (e.g., coffee shops) also provide services too. Most of those places are far from tourist areas thus to get there you have to go with local people; otherwise, you are out of luck.

virgin
03-25-03, 04:44
Hereís some info on the street scene in HCM.

Lot of spotís, mainly girls riding motorbike, sometimes with pimps waiting for people to stop. Those places are not foreign oriented but cater to locals so letís not ruin the market.

Price is often depending of timing, if late night price can be really cheap comparing to early evening. Mainly I usually go between 150.000 VND and 250.000 VND (including room) depending on what the girl looks, the time and what sheís in forÖ of course little viet knowledge can help. If she still ask for more, just leave and sheíll call you back. Iíve never had troubles but never go with to much money or drunk. Iíve had all kind of services from crap to real good FS, usually no or few BJ but very tight pussy. Try to avoid girls that shows mark of mistreatment or drug use and always wear protection.

Here are some streets (not sure of spelling):

Nguyen Chi Thanh the part where double avenue between nguyen tri phoung and vinataba industry, tran nhan ton (nightspot lot of girls, sometimes in afternoon), border of district 5.

Le Duan, the part near the zoo after (mainly in the afternoon always 1-2 girls turning, sometimes In evening, little more expensive near sofitel) District 1

Haong van thu between nguyen van troi and tran huy lieu (nightspot 4-5 girls) District tan binh

Nguyen thi minh khai near college Le quy don (lot of girls there) border district 1

All these places move according police crackdowns but usually the girls stays in the same area (walking distance).

Someinfoís on Barbershopís, well known hot tocís. They all offer (to my knowledge) BJ but nothing more (if more inform please).

Couple of them are on dien bien phu after the bridge on the right when leaving Saigon. Mostly prices are 70.000 paid to mamas an + tip (range from 30.000 to 100.000) The girls always ask for more asking for 10 dollars but leaving without paying will get you the price down. I Always try to agree before although itís not that easy!

Try also on the very beginning of Quoc Lo 13 district thanh binh you have on the right one of my fave itís called xuan something (already referred in this board earlier by Dirty D.) you pay 100.000 VND for very good BJ and no hassle although the good girls are leaving.

Did someone has info on hot toc on le lai street in front of pham ngu lao (prices, service, Ö) never tried those ones. Iíve also seen 2 with apparently good looking girls on very beginning of Pasteur after crossing ham ngi street (not sure but itís in the area).

Also looking for info on bia omís on restaurant omís where Iíve few infoís and not reliable.
I would also been interested in some more location of barbershops or brothels.

If you need some more detail just ask or drop me a mail.

Virgin

virgin
03-25-03, 04:59
Hereís some info on the street scene in HCM.

Lot of spotís, mainly girls riding motorbike, sometimes with pimps waiting for people to stop. Those places are not foreign oriented but cater to locals so letís not ruin the market.
Price is often depending of timing, if late night price can be really cheap comparing to early evening. Mainly I usually go between 150.000 VND and 250.000 VND (including room) depending on what the girl looks, the time and what sheís in forÖ of course little viet knowledge can help. If she still ask for more, just leave and sheíll call you back. Iíve never had troubles but never go with to much money or drunk (just take necessary cash, no jewels, no camera, Ö). Iíve had all kind of services from crap to real good FS, usually no or few BJ but very tight pussy. Try to avoid girls that shows mark of mistreatment or drug use and always wear protection.

Here are some streets (not sure of spelling):
ē Nguyen Chi Thanh the part where double avenue between nguyen tri phoung and vinataba industry, tran nhan ton (nightspot lot of girls, sometimes in afternoon), border of district 5.
ē Le Duan, the part near the zoo after (mainly in the afternoon always 1-2 girls turning, sometimes In evening, little more expensive near sofitel) District 1
ē Haong van thu between nguyen van troi and tran huy lieu (nightspot 4-5 girls) District tan binh
ē Nguyen thi minh khai near college Le quy don (lot of girls there) border district 1

All these places move according police crackdowns but usually the girls stays in the same area (walking distance).

Someinfoís on Barbershopís, well known hot tocís. They all offer (to my knowledge) BJ but nothing more (if more inform please).

Couple of them are on dien bien phu after the bridge on the right when leaving Saigon. Mostly prices are 70.000 paid to mamas an + tip (range from 30.000 to 100.000) The girls always ask for more asking for 10 dollars but leaving without paying will get you the price down. I Always try to agree before although itís not that easy!

Try also on the very beginning of Quoc Lo 13 district thanh binh you have on the right one of my fave itís called xuan something (already referred in this board earlier by Dirty D.) you pay 100.000 VND for very good BJ and no hassle although the good girls are leaving.

Did someone has info on hot toc on le lai street in front of pham ngu lao (prices, service, Ö) never tried those ones. Iíve also seen 2 with apparently good looking girls on very beginning of Pasteur after crossing ham ngi street (not sure but itís in the area).

Also looking for info on bia omís on restaurant omís where Iíve few infoís and not reliable.
I would also been interested in some more location of barbershops or brothels.

If you need some more detail just ask or drop me a mail.

Virgin

virgin
03-25-03, 09:33
Hereís some info on the street scene in HCM.

Lot of spotís, mainly girls riding motorbike, sometimes with pimps waiting for people to stop. Those places are not foreign oriented but cater to locals so letís not ruin the market.

Price is often depending of timing, if late night price can be really cheap comparing to early evening. Mainly I usually go between 150.000 VND and 250.000 VND (including room) depending on what the girl looks, the time and what sheís in forÖ of course little viet knowledge can help. If she still ask for more, just leave and sheíll call you back. Iíve never had troubles but never go with to much money or drunk (just take necessary cash, no jewels, no camera, Ö). Iíve had all kind of services from crap to real good FS, usually no or few BJ but very tight pussy. Try to avoid girls that shows mark of mistreatment or drug use and always wear protection.

Here are some streets (not sure of spelling):

-Nguyen Chi Thanh the part where double avenue between nguyen tri phoung and vinataba industry, tran nhan ton (nightspot lot of girls, sometimes in afternoon), border of district 5.

-Le Duan, the part near the zoo after (mainly in the afternoon always 1-2 girls turning, sometimes In evening, little more expensive near sofitel) District 1

-Haong van thu between nguyen van troi and tran huy lieu (nightspot 4-5 girls) District tan binh

-Nguyen thi minh khai near college Le quy don (lot of girls there) border district 1

All these places move according police crackdowns but usually the girls stays in the same area (walking distance).

Someinfoís on Barbershopís, well known hot tocís. They all offer (to my knowledge) BJ but nothing more (if more inform please).

Couple of them are on dien bien phu after the bridge on the right when leaving Saigon. Mostly prices are 70.000 paid to mamas an + tip (range from 30.000 to 100.000) The girls always ask for more asking for 10 dollars but leaving without paying will get you the price down. I Always try to agree before although itís not that easy!

Try also on the very beginning of Quoc Lo 13 district thanh binh you have on the right one of my fave itís called xuan something (already referred in this board earlier by Dirty D.) you pay 100.000 VND for very good BJ and no hassle although the good girls are leaving.

Did someone has info on hot toc on le lai street in front of pham ngu lao (prices, service, Ö) never tried those ones. Iíve also seen 2 with apparently good looking girls on very beginning of Pasteur after crossing ham ngi street (not sure but itís in the area).

Also looking for info on bia omís on restaurant omís where Iíve few infoís and not reliable.

I would also been interested in some more location of barbershops or brothels.

If you need some more detail just ask or drop me a mail.

Virgin

Jimbehr2000
03-26-03, 12:27
This is excellent info Virgin. I wish I knew this when I was in HCMC. I spent most of my time in District 1 and only met 1 motorbike girl but we never talked about price as I had an appointment. Do the girls on motorbikes serve Westerners or people who don't speak Vietnamese?

virgin
03-28-03, 04:39
Do the girls on motorbikes serve Westerners or people who don't speak Vietnamese? [/i]It depends of your skills of communication; having a pen and paper might help. My vietnamese is really poor but at least I understand numbers... Think it's not to difficult to make it. And of course they cater to Westerners (maybe few would refuse, why? I don't know) because by paying 200.000 VND you're at least 2x higher than local... I heard (and saw few action) about blowjobs in parc in front of reunification for 30.000 VND!!!

Sorry for multiple post

Virgin

Tangent
04-01-03, 09:53
re: Erik's comment on a woman who seemed 32 and had at least one kid.

My general experience is that women who have a kid back home are much more aggressive in trying to get all the money they can from you. Even if the service they gave was not the service that was agreed to.

2fast4u
04-03-03, 23:04
I'm leaving for sgn in a week. How is the scene in Ho Chi Minh City? I heard about a club called Heat, it is suppose to be the best right now. Does any one know a good massage place in district one or any karaoke bars with really good looking girls (bear om)? I've been to Vietnam before and the I know you can basically pick up any girl you see, but I don't have time and don't want a relationship.

Any help would be appreciated, Thanks.

Warriorxxx
04-05-03, 04:47
[QUOTE]Originally posted by 2fast4u
[i]I'm leaving for sgn in a week.[i][quote]2fast4u..email me and let me know date u r coming in..I am heading there in few days we might be able to hook up..
email: kp6022@attbi.com

2fast4u
04-06-03, 04:28
Hey, warriorxxx,

I'll email you and we can hook up somewhere. If you don't mind me asking, what nationality are you?

Since I'm here let me put up a post.

The last time I was there in 2002, the price for a girl in the club was 700,000 (us45dollars) st (2-3 hours). Service was good no rush and willing to please. I met 2 American guys there who cheated two girls. After they did the deed they refused to pay saying that they thought it was free. They were black and hispanic. When guys do this they make us all look bad. Those guys brag about how they will stay at the Rex Hotel and how much money they have and then cheat girls out of 45 bucks. They look like crap with the baggie pants and long t-shirts so I could tell they were cheap.

I went to a massage place in district one (a taxi took me) 300,000 for a bj. Cute girl 7 out 10 and you will have to pay the place 50,000 for the massage. I don't remember the name or address but this time I will take a business card to post the address.

Warriorxxx
04-06-03, 18:26
I'll email you and we can hook up somewhere. If you don't mind me asking, what nationality are you?

2fast4u..I just checked email but do not see your mail. Can you resend and check email address again kp6022@attbi.com or if you can post your email here, I will sent you one.
I am leaving on 04/09..and arrive on 04/11...I had not booked any hotel yet but was thingking to stay at Evergreen or Metropole hotel. Where r u staying?

2fast4u
04-09-03, 15:01
Can anyone tell me what Ho Chi Minh City is like now? Are there still a lot of tourists? Are the clubs still full? Has the price gone down? Are the streets still busy at night or is everything empty due to SARS.

Asiaphile
04-18-03, 07:11
yawning around here...zzzzzzzzzzzzz
vietphiles look here for salvation:
http://forums.************.com/vietnamfun

Wendella
04-20-03, 07:42
HELLO VIRGIN.....

You say in your post below to email you if we have any questions -- how can I do that?

Also if MEATY or DIRTY D are reading, I'd like to email to you as well, again to just ask some questions.

I'm in Saigon now for about one week and need to try some other spots than where I have gone so far.

If you want to keep your email address off this forum, my email is wenchapman@yahoo.com

I hope to hear from you!

Warriorxxx
04-21-03, 17:46
From VN

Here are few things I have seen in HCM so far and thanks to all contributors in this forum.

AN: is still there and alive. There are alot of people from Mon to Sun and quality are 6 to 7. I do not think price change that much and I can not find any good looking one for less than 35. It opened till 2AM..amazing place.

Club 777: first and second floor. few good looking one but you need to speak the language here. I also saw few of them from AN here as well. One day I drank with the manager here and his name is Hoan and one of his niece is a cashier at the bar on second floor. If you get friendly to the bar tender and buy him a drink, then you can get inside info from him. However, watch out for a "colour" guy, who is a partner of this club and he is not a straight guy. You had been warned.

Liquid on Hai ba trung is the same some goog looking one there as well but I see local mostly only few foreigner here.

Spaceship: DEAD!! I walked in there and I counted there 6 total. Included me for a Thursday night. The owner is on trial rightnow so I think it will be close down sooner or later.

Club Number 1 on Le Qui Don is also a good place to hang out and you might be able to pick up if you sit on the bar on higher floor. I also found out that you can buy drinks to all the bar tender and you never know, you might get a lucky one. again, you need to speak the language or know someone can come along with you.

Karaoke at amara hotel on Le van si: expensive, 50 on average BUT quality is super and if you wait for the nest day and ask them to go out with you. They can take time off the nextday and have a good time.

I had alot of their mobile number and do not know which one to choose...LOL..

I also hire a local driver to go to Vungtau and boy I tell you I got married too many times there and I can not even keep track of it.
if you need info on local driver, locations and other info in Vungtau, then you can email me at kp6022@attbi.com.
However, he can not speak english but I will try my best to make arrangment for you via note or letter.

I will be here for few more days to check out other but I am not sure if I do because I had all mobile number that I can use.

OK..untill next time. Happy hunting.

EnjoyGuy
05-01-03, 22:52
This post is from Kurupa posted in Singapore-Asian web site.

HoChiMinh/Saigon info compilation/updates
I have compiled all these info from this website. Is there any changes or updates to the info on Vietnam with Saigon in particular???

Here goes:
should try out Catwalk. It's something like a niteclub except the girls will only go back with u if they like u. Kind of fun as if u are trying to pick someone up. It's abt US$100 or 1,000,000 dongs(indecent proposal). Gd Luck

Catwalk is at New World Hotel. You can't miss it. But it is an expensive place. Go with someone, don't go alone, and take a cab to Gossip or Monaco. These are discos where there are plenty of girls. They will approach you to take them back.

Below are a few bars where you will find some action

GREENFIELD, 20 Mac Thi Buoi, next door to the Hard Rock.
Ladydrink VND50,000 (girl gets 5,000 per drink commission)
Customer must buy (or pay equivalent) of seven drinks to take girl out.
(So girl gets VND35,000 and bar gets VND215,000)


CHILI PEPPER, half block up Dong Du from the BS

Vung Tau is where all the massage parlors are if thats you thing

DANCE CLUBS
In general, there is a door charge of $5-10. A dancing partner is available for about 200,000-VND/hour. These are beautiful girls, aged 18-25, in elegant cocktail dresses, Chinese split dresses, or Vietnamese ao dai. Tips are expected (200,000-VND about average). These clubs feature live singers and traditional (Vietnam-style) ballroom dancing. Rumba, tango, bebop, cha cha, slow, etc. If you donít know the dance step, fake it with any American step you feel comfortable with. The girls are excellent followers. Nearly all the clubs feature disco type dancing during the breaks.
Liberty (Tu Do)
80 Dong Khoi
Q.1
Saigon
829-9820
Small but friendly. Relatively good selection of girls.
Rex Hotel
Le Loi Street (I donít know the address, but this is a famous hotel, any taxi will know it.)Large room, girls dressed in plain colored ao dai, the Vietnamese long dress. Good music. Conservative atmosphere.
Maxim
Dong Khoi Street, next to the Majestic Hotel.
This is a favorite of returning Vietnamese tourists, who say it is the best of the lot. Elegant, stunning ladies, pricey.
DISCOS
These clubs all have small entrance fees ($5-10). They are full of House Pros, freelancers, and amateurs. Eye contact and a smile will bring them over to you if they are interested.
Gossip Disco--Hotel Mercury
Tran Hung Dao Street
Q.1
Saigon
Who: Disco
This is my personal favorite pick-up place. Thereís usually a large number of ladies here, many of them very beautiful. They used to have good music from a Filipino band, but currently itís only recorded disco music. Thereís a mini hotel within a short walk: Thanh Thao hotel.
Medusa Club
At the end of the long alley beside the Amara hotel.
323 Le Van Sy
Q.3
Saigon
Work: 848-843-9999
Who: Disco, Karaoke
Very upscale, but reasonably priced. More than 80 beautiful girls for singing, dancing, cuddling. Couch seating around a dance floor downstairs. Karaoke upstairs. This is a favorite of the Koreans, but most of them have gone back to Korea. Ask the mamasan for someone who can speak English. Many, but not all, will go to a hotel with you.
BARS
Ni Ni Bar.
74 Hai Ba Trung
Saigon
Hostess Bar. Here, the girls are down and dirty. You can get FS upstairs for $30 total.
Stephanie's (Cafe Dep)
Work: 825-8471
14 Thai Van Lung Street
a Le Thanh Ton
Saigon
Aggressive hostess bar, but the girls are usually stunners. They will really hustle you for drinks, so you need to keep your wits about you. You can take girls out of here, but there is sometimes a bar fine. Better to discreetly make an appointment for later, or for a nooner the next day.
Sun - Moon Bar
Work: 848-824-4295
74-B Hai Ba Trung
Saigon
A bar downstairs and mediocre live music upstairs. Full of hookers.
The Monkey Bar (aks Huu Dien).
Ha Ba Trung, corner of Lam Son Square (one block uphill from Hien & Bobís. AVOID this place unless you a very high tolerance level for being hustled for drinks. This place is packed with hostesses who want to drink up all your money except exactly what youíll need to pay them and a hotel later. OK to stick your head inside, but be prepared to cut and run.
BARBER SHOP
Saigon Thao Beauty Shop
48 Ngo Duc Ke
Q. 1

As I promised, here's the trip for HCM...

Stayed at a jap hotel, legend hotel, tonnes of hot chicks every bloody where! checking out the jap chicks then viet chicks, too damn horny to think about work. right after check in, went over to their HC. the chicks are amazing, every girl can be described in one word "HOT"!

The girls, had nice sizeable tits (not huge, but big enough), smooth long legs (for asians), tightest butt ever (way tighter than any HC girls I ever felt), most importantly they have the cutest looks ever.

I didn't get to choose the girl, but at that point any of them is good. Saw a real pretty girl walk pass, but I ended up with a cute dimpled babe.

The massage was amazing (if I wasn't so damn horny), she gave me the full 1 hour work out, soothing every single tired muscle there was, I would have really fell asleep if not for my lil bro. As she started massaging me legs, she constantly touch my balls, and occasionally asking whether I like that (hell yeah!)

I kept replying yes, and finally she pop the question, actually she didn't really ask, she made me turn around and grabbed me dick! even though I was crazily horny, the cash issue always came first. I asked she answered 500,000... (what? for a FJ?) nope, not that lucky, only for HJ. I ended up bargaining the price down to 350,000 (still a bloody rip off). she let me feel her up, but I didn't get to see any crap... good HJ though, if that was any consolation.

gave her the money and told her I would come back (yeah right), and proceeded the day with work.

after several uninteresting HJ, the novelty was wearing off, and yes the chicks were hot, but I ain't a 12 yo anymore, need some serious fark! to get me off.... went out in search of more exciting places, and taxi's for once were not helpful, they only took me to places that privided BJ at best (and prices at 1,000,000! dumb asses)

Overall, my trip to Vietnam was just an experience, the country folks are poor, and earn only USD40-200 (depending on skill), however, due to all the rich dudes that work and tour vietnam, girls tend to think (you from overseas? you rich fella), and a strict communist country makes it difficult to find FJ. Nevertheless, if I have a chance to venture in HCM again, I will not give up, till I fark up! over and out

Try out this place:

Tiem Hai Toc Sao Mai
324/38 Bin Dupong Vt Tich
Tan Binh

Near the airport. I might get the address wrong as it is in Vietnamese so you may want to call this number 8112076.

The price is about GL price and the quality of gals are quite okay. It is a "barber shop" which provides everything e.g haircut, massage and even FXXX services. Just check with the manageress that you are recommended by friends and she will know what you want.

Field report if mission accomplised (no obligations)

Enjoy cheonging!!!

Do help me recollect something about this immigration hotel in town.

I was there and 2 ang Mo whom dare not leave the hotel for too long told me that along the street next to this hotel. There is a Barber shop with curtian and when they went in and sat on the barber chair, A lady was washing his hair, another 2 came in and pull up the curtain, one took out her boob and let him suck while another took out his cock and gave him a BBBJ. all for US5.

That was 10 years agao. I went around but could not find it. Is it still there??



For those interested in massage with that provide HJ try Saigon Star hotel. If i remember correctly, its located on the 3rd floor.

Massages cost - VND 120,000 (US$8)
Hj - Max. US$10 as tips

Believe it or not, there are "happy hours". Go between 10am - 1pm, you can either have a extended session for the same price or 2 gal massage for a standard session, no extra charges!! Of course, if you go for 2 gal, your tips will have to be multiplied by 2.

Gals - 85% above average. Had a session with a beautiful young gal (rated 7.5) with big big tits (34C).

By the way, you may request for 2 gals session even after happy hour, but cost slightly more.

Rooms are big and clean (basically a converted hotel room). Worth a try and massage are good and very affordable too.

cannot remember the name of the discos..but there are three quite prominent one in Vung Tau. There is one disco that is attached to the hotel. All you have to do is buy a drink in the disco, sit down and there are many gals with number tags dancing on the dance floor, take your time to take your pick, tell the mamasan, the gal will come over and you could buy her a drink, negotitaite with her the price (about USD60-80 dollars) for specials, tell her your room number and she will arrange the rest. You will then proceed to your room and wait for her to come. The gals are quite decent looking but not as pretty as HCM gals

That was two years ago but i do not know whether they still practice the same system or any place have changed..but anyway do not have too high an expectations in the hotel in Vung Tau. If I am not mistaken, the hotel is very near the beach.

For Hanoi, you can try the night club in Hanoi Hotel. But be careful when settling the bills, they have the habit to put in additional charges. Just check your bill and voice up for any discrepancy. You can get gals there, do not pay anything more than US$80 for overnight

Also, you may try Daewoo Hotel, they have a KTV there. IMHO, the gals quality are better than Hanoi Hotel.

Lastly, you may try your luck at Meritus hotel, there is a nightclub there by the name Exotica. But was under renovation when i was there 2 week ago.

Have fun....

EnjoyGuy
05-01-03, 23:00
Another one.

Have fun....

Some information for the male visitors to Saigon.

There are various types of services avail as I soon found out with the help of some pointers from this forum and vietnam fun. Here goes

1. Massage Parlours.

Like the ones in SG and MS, these operate in more or less the same way except that it is almost impossible to get a FJ or BJ. It appears that HJ are the max allowed and it's not cheap (max 200000 VND) Do not pay more and bargain down. Opening is always 500000 for foreigner so bargain! The massage is however a full 1 hour and very good. Service wise I think it is way above the ones in SG and MS and worth the money. You can feel the girl up but I can tell you that there's nothing to that I feel. The novelty will wear off quite fast. If you want BJ and maybe FJ, you can try Hot Toc/Barber shops.. ALL of them have specials and these take place at the back. For me however, I do not like these places (altho it's cheap) as I like a nice a/c place.

For massage parlours, try Vien Dong (USD6 for massage) , Saigon Prince (USD 15 for massage only). The first is cheaper but good. The other serves expats and is part of a 4 star hotel.

2. Kissing Bars

Swell place. You get touchy girls and you buy them lady drinks for 50000 VND and you pay a bar fine of 600000VND to take them out. No further money to be paid. The girl will normally know which minihotels are guest frenly and you pay for the night over. Costs about USD10-15. These bars may look dingy on the outside and in but trust me, it's alot of fun..
Try Sunshine or Greenfields next to Apocalypse Now.Overlook the lack of facilities and you'll like the place. Beats KTVs for me.

3. KTVs

Didn't try but heard its USD40-50 to take girl out. Dunno drink prices but ex. Try Medusa at Amara Hotel or VIP as recommended by brother

4. Discos

Not really a service but you can find lotsa freelance hanging ard Apocalypse Now and the bars around there... Where the farangs go, they'll be there. Higher end include Saigon Saigon (Caravelle Hotel) and Catwalk (New World Hotel). Didn't try these cuz I'm no big time spender. Just wanted to know the scene.

In my honest opinion, I think Vietnamese girls are very attractive for the following reasons. They are pretty, look innocent/demure and very very stubborn. The last one for me is attractive cuz it shows character (I sound stupid writing this). These girls are obliging and yet full of spunk. If I had my way, I'd settle in Vietnam or get an expat posting here. The ratio of females to males here is 2 to 1 so you go figure. And I heard that the local girls do not like viet men as much.. You figure what reason this is so...

So have fun dudes but please put your cap on. I'm scared shitless of AIDS and it's rife in Vietnam. I am actually pretty scared for myself

Hi Bro Darzee,

are you sure the club a The Daewoo is called IMHO? Is it not called Club Q?

Personally stayed a the Daewoo before and found it to be the most convenient compared to other 5-star hotels in town for companionship. Just head on down to the club and pay around US$ 12 for a drink and call up the girl you like. Following are standard where you can chat them up to check them out. Some do speak passable English and once I even had one who spoke Chinese although not very fluently. Once a price has been agreed - usually US$100 is sufficient for a night and multiple shots. You leave for your room while she will join you later.

I personally have tried 2 particular girls there, one of them for 4 times. Her BBBJ was very good and she allows for CIM. FJ was also excellent and very responsive. She allows multiple positions but draws the line on fingering and licking.

The other I had only 2 months ago. Unfortunately I was not a the Daewoo that time and the hotel where I stayed did not allow any overnight visits. We ended up at a local hotel and paid US$10 for an aircon room for the entire night. She was so turned on that after servicing her, she got on top of me and slipped me in raw even though she had prepared the raincoat in advance. By that time I was in 7th heaven and wshe rode me a good 10 minutes before she pulled me forward to her where at that precise point in time her contraction squeezed me from inside and I lost all control and shot my load deep inside her. Even after I had shot my full load she did not let go of me and we stayed holding each other for another 10 minutes - kissing and licking each other all over the neck, ears before my didi slipped out.

We spent the entire night in each other's arms and only woke up when my didi performed its customary morning flag raising ceremony. Seizing the opportunity I immediately slipped it into her **** even before she awoke completely. Before long I was again driving into her **** lustfully and again shot my complete load deep into her. We then showered together and she even dropped me back off a the hotel before kissing me goodbye.

All in all it costs me S$200 and an additional US$10 for the room. Needless to say I am looking forward to being back to look up this lady again. In my opinion she is really special with her GF treatment.

o for the bros heading up to this great city in the north, head on down to Club Q, or if disco/Karaoke is more your thing, then ehad on down to the Hotel Fortuna - ask any taxi driver and they will bring you there. It is absolutely safe, much safer than HCM City as the people there are more sincere and less likely to rip you off. We have been going there for 7 years and it has been a blast! Long live Uncle Ho!

Had a massage in one of the hotel in HCM and definitely no bj or fj, a hj was defitely in place at 200000, the girl was beautiful and most of them have BIG Boobs!!!!!!must be the diet.

anyway, had a few footmassage at one of the place and chat up the floor manager. she realised I was from Sing and even offered to take me around HCM, but she have to go back to home town. Call me anything, but I had a feeling that if the trip was on, sure can go further....and her boobs.....oh mine, why can't we have those here!!????

, braddars

been here 4 days, 3 nights and gonna go on home to singapore then brunei tomollo.

as I arrive in saigon on monday evening, and feeling kinda out of it, due to bumpy flight (love the vietnam stewardess, but hate the damn pilot).

any*****, so no action beside wrestling with my panadiene bottle.

tuesday - friggin hot day... finish up with business before lunch, and as I walked towards my hotel, passed a "MASSAGE" sign, kinda universal place for dirty business, so I thought, why the fark not? went on in, looks pretty dodgey (just the way I like it) and walked to the receptionist (old bagger). told her "dumbop" meaning massage, and she gave me a key.

waited for 2 mins, and a petite girl walked in. she smiled and I started to eye her down. can't be over 18, size wise, could give kylie minogue a run for her money, sizable tits (where the hell do they get those tits for a little girl like that?) anyway she proceeded to give me a good rub (oh yeah, I'm nude by now) and she was quick to get to the point, rubba dub di di. she kept feelin me hangin assets and kept gigglin. within 15 mins, the magik question came, actually more like magik hand signal came. I tried as usual (previous trips) to get a fark instead of the "I rather do it myself" HJ. no chance, best she could do was to suck me off. thought better than nothin, and she proceeded. MAN CAN THIS LITTLE GIRL SUCK!!! wasn't sure whether it was because I was so damn horny or if her tongue felt like it was a mile long!

so there she was, this innocent lookin ****, suckin me like her life depended on it, and boom, came right in her friggin mouth.

did I mention she was small in size? LOUDEST BLOODY SCREAM EVER!!! what? its only cum? heh heh, anyway I calmed her down, by using the universal problem solver, Money. gave her 250,000 for the suck, and another 100,000 for the "accident" heh heh, she was smiling before I left, little *****...

ah well, all in all not a bad exp, gotta run, tell you the rest tomollo, have to meet some hot chick.

Alright brudders,

First of all, we have to admit that this thread currently suck, and suck BAD. Let's try to work it up fellows!

Ok here is my contribute:

1. Plenty of action in HCM City, that's for sure, but I live about 1.5 hours away, so I have to make do with the resources that I have.

2. Living in Quan 13 (Binh Duong), the general place to go for some release will be Karoake's. sing very old chinese/english songs and play with very cute girls titties. Man these girls are hot (30% of the girls are hot, 50% are little above average and remaining are pretty DOGS)

3. the main problem in my area is that there is no FJ, unless some brudders can help me out.

4. The only thing we can do here is fish, and that takes time and lots of spending... JUST WANT MY BLOODY FJ!!!!

5. So fish this 18 yo slim with big boobs, for the last 7 days, had only 1 BJ, and plenty of Mahjong playing... just not satisfied, think I will go down to HCM for a couple "shots" and play the fishing game again.

My recommendation for Vietnam is always Apocalypse Now. It is crowded, and has some nice chicks. Not all are pretty, but as long as you can spare the money, the cute ones will come to you.

EnjoyGuy
05-01-03, 23:02
Another one. Damn this guy can type.

If i can remember correctly, when I was there, I paid something like US$30-$40 for a nice girl for an overnight session.

Otherwise, what works for me always is the bell-hop at the hotel. Slip him maybe US$1-2, and ask for recommendations. He'll be able to tell you.

The guy at the hotel I was staying recommended a place in chinatown, and it was happening man. Cute chicks dancing on the table, and around you - all fully dressed. But you can try to negotiate a price for them.

Thing is, from what i found out about Vietnam, if you are nice to them and smile at them, they will be nice to you. But if you are rude and arrogant, then they don't give a damn about you.

And always use rubber man. You don't know what you might come back with, from anywhere in the world. Even if the chick is a freelancer, you must use protection.

But enjoy, Vietnam is the place to go for chicks. Very beautiful and slim ones.

Ho Chi Minh City - short visit report
Well, stopped over in HCMC for a quick first ever visit just to see if its worth a longer visit for future for business first and pleasure after hours!

Business
Aside from HK and perhaps parts of China now, I have never ever felt the buzz of another city more than here. Partly, this is because of the incessant quantity of motorcycles whizzing pass you in the streets of the city during business hours!

Shops and the market looked lively so, the future potential for business here I gather can and will be huge! A market of more than 11 or is it 17 million people - must be huge!

Places I had time to check out.
Massages - did not try any as time was limited and I had other things to do in the day.

Was also not keen on expensive high class joints and that meant that I was limited to just "karaokes, bars" and "discos."

First night - was totally alone. Went out late at 9.30pm so headed straight for Apocalpyse now since it was highly recommended by most books, guides and the internet.

I was fully aware that this is The Place where most "caucasians" frequented so I was prepared for the kind of girls that they attract plus a lower grade overall as we Asians know (this is a fact).

Within the relatively large place, it was still quite empty when I arrived - about 20-30 girls in place so I found myself a really nice bar-stool next the dance floor and drank myself happy, slow and steady.

Right in front of me, two tall attractively dressed girls were already partying by themselves and I found one that made my COCK HARD there and then!

All my efforts at eye contact did not work out well but I did manage to get a reciprocating smile from the "other one" whom I did not find attractive. So, I just pointed to her friend but "nay" she was not interested. Found out why later. They had some guy (local) joining them about an hour later.
I was also held back from walking up to talk to them because I suspected that they could be "tranvestites" because they were kind of tall and big framed for locals! (actually they were very model-like) and my preference is for petite frames!

By 10.30 the place filled to capacity (both dance floors) plus the rear dining - sit down area and I truly enjoyed stopping each time and making smiles at whoever I wanted to flirt with each walking visit from my seat to the toilet.

A few of the more aggressive ladies approached me too and I finally settled for one round faced lady (very kampong look) with a little bit of "baby fat" showing between her halter top and low cut jeans! She danced very sexily and I was already imagining if she fucked like she danced. Also, no make up and I like them better without make up!

No, despite her many request for me to join her on the dance floor, I declined so she moved herself to my location next to the bar. we had a fantastic time rubbing each other up she dancing in front of me while I moved behind her rubbing myself hard on her bum and all! At the same time, my wandering hands confirmed that she had small but a handful of tits and SMOOTH - yes, perfectly smooth skin on her belly, above her belly and thereabouts.

Whenever it was available, I took the opportunity to chat with several others around us to make sure that she appreciated that it was her I wanted even though the options were plentiful.

By around 1.30 am, the authorities (yes they were there around the club and on the stage keeping a serious watchful eye on the goings-on) had instructed them to "shut down" and the dj dragged on playing due to the crowd's request for more. We managed to last until about 2.30am when we really had to leave as they had to close. The music is really good - the type that the caucasians like (me too) and I had a happy night.

We walked back to my nearby hotel and SHITS. the girls was not allowed to go up to my room. She suggested a small hotel nearby but I said NO. See you tomorrow, come over at 3pm.

Well, I was out all day and did pop back into the hotel at 3.10pm but no gal, so no FUCK!

Second Night, two of my friends arrived and joined me - their first night and my second.

I had spent most of the day wondering around the city WALKING till my feet hurt with blisters. It was a beautiful day especially when I encountered so many lovely beautiful ladies whizzing by either on their motorcycles or bicycles. The highlight of all was a lovely young lady in modern dress with a thigh high slit on her skirt cycling by me. With her cute hat and nice bare legs pumping away on her bicycle, I was prompted to want to photograph her and I turned to chase after her in the traffic. Alas, she was quicker than me in the clogged up streets and I never caught up!
SHITS!

By night, we proceeded to walk around and checked out the small bars near Apocalypse and finally settled for a small karaoke called Acura also along the same street as Apocalpyse.
We did walk into at least 3 bars but, the ladies were not our type! Probably the worst of the "white men's places"!

We had checked out a few other Karaokes but they were all family places with no ladies.

Acura we entered because we had spotted some ladies going in and there a few nice ones too. After checking out the charges (room US$20 per hour) plus the price of drinks - Tiger at US$3 per bottle (Chivas US$60), we decided to ask for the mamasan and Ms Lee turned out to be one of the nice ladies we had spotted going in too! she's about 26-68 but is still attractive in her own way and I vowed that I might want to FUCK her if it was going to be possible.

Because my friends did not speak chinese, nor vietnamese, we asked for english speak ladies and we were limited to just 6 ladies. The choice were not really out type so we just picked two of the best and asked Lee to send us one of the nice ladies we had spotted earlier and she came despite the fact that she only spoke vietnamese.

US$80 later, we checked out and "promised" to call back for the ladies if we wanted them for the night. the "calling price" overnight was US$70 before negotiations and I told Ms Lee, I would call her.

having had a good time at Apocalypse the previous night plus not having fucked my "darling" of the previous night, I looked forward to meeting her again and suggested we move to that place.

It was already 11.30pm and the place was packed. We moved to a nice corner spot next to one of the dance floors and bar and continued our party from the Karaoke. In no time, the lady of the previous night spotted me and came over bringing with her two of her friends. I immediately desired one of them too but I had unfinished business with "my lady". also spotted so many of the ladies that I had talked to the previous nights and sigh, if only I had time to check them out one by one!

By 1.45 am, we were quite high and tired and decided to bring two of them back with us, My gal and one of her friends. This second night, we had already worked out a strategy to check the ladies into one additional room and pay for it thus getting them into the hotel. My two friends shared one room so it was just 3 rooms for 3 people so no major additional costs.

The fuck - well, she was more the girl friend type and I HAD A GREAT FUCK!
Why, my preferences are a semi-wet fuck (call it mushy wet), different positions with 'lady on top", doggie, missionary and "legs in the air" and "legs on my shoulder" being my preferences! Blow Jobs - Not really my preference because I do not allow ladies to blow me bare (can't be too careful these days). With protection, most ladies do not enjoy the blow so I rather do things we both enjoy!

Funnily enough, I was in top form - the fuck in different position plus the 'slow missionary fuck" with cock sliding in from tip to the balls in a mush **** made the extra day's wait worthwhile! Normally, I would cum in a few strokes with any new lady I have never had especially given the extra day's wait!

Slept nicely in a cuddle and work her up 7am for a finale before rushing off to catch the early taxi to airport!

Return to fuck in HCM city? DEFINITELY when time and business permits! I will do more research next time ! This visit was too rushed and the priority entertainment zone was Phnom Penh where we were "partying" with our business colleagues from the conference!

Found a town called Binh Duong...

Man this place is filled with Karaokes and Massage joints! The girls are definitely not comparable to the girls found in Ho Chi Minh. But they much cheaper and some what cuter.

Went to a Disco called "Bar Binh Duong" kinda funny for a name, guess the owner didn't know much english, or just couldn't be farked. But on with da story.

EnjoyGuy
05-01-03, 23:05
Another one. All in same day. Damn.

Arrived around 10pm with a couple friends. Not much happening... music loud as ever, with almost 20 blokes and jack squat chicks. Discussed with me mates, and decided to bolt after 20mins or so. Just as the drinks we ordered arrive. (say 10.10pm or so), chicks started to pour in. And I literally mean pouring in.

By 10.30pm (obviously we could not leave now..) there was at least 30-40 chicks running around, trying to shake their thang. One particular girl caught my eyes (and several other hound dogs too). I made eye contact, and went straight up. Bought a drink and tried to chat her up.

Man Chatting Viet girls up must be one of the most difficult thing ever (CANNOT SPEAKA ENGALISH!). After 20mins of trying, though the girl was really friendly, I gave up. Went back to me mates, and asked a viet friend of mine to finish up the negotiation.

The girl (Loan her name is) came around and sat with us (well done Kung!) She drank a bit and started to hug me (not bad). Found out she is 18 going 19, and is looking for work (yeah right).

If not being so petite (not over 150cm), she has the looks and figure to be running for Miss Vietnam.

Let's see her stats should be around:

Chest: 30C (asian C not foreign)
Waist: 21 (max, that is one tiny waist)
Bottom:30 (ever notice viet girls have the smallest bottoms ever?)

Basically she is HOT! But so is the price as I later found out. She asked for VND500,000 (which is around USD35) pretty high for country girl, but pretty damn low for Saigon city standard. heh heh, cheap bastards we are.

Went ahead and took her to the hotel right outside. VND150,000 for the night. Man she is tight! Must have Farked her for 3-4 hours... man, I must have used at least 1/3 of kama sutra's instruction manual. She was one playful biatch! And she had those "developing tits" kindof tits... that is pretty horni stuff.

Any*****, total damge was VND650,000 for 3 shot, all night. Got her number (so will everyone else who had a go at her meat), ask me to call her again (another VND650,000 nonetheless). And I think I will... definitely a piece of tiny ass I'll go for again.

And to those that have been following me up. FINALLY GOT ME DAMN FJ!!!

in saigon, u can pick up gals 4 short time or over night service
in most disco. however, thru my personal experience, i dont
advise u 2 book a stranger 2 stay over night in ur hotel room.
there r 2 reasons 4 not doing tat.

#1- most of the working gals r attached wif bf. they can't
possible stay a nite wif u even though they charged u in full.
they will take u 4 a ride. they give all sort of nonsense excuses
after their service just 2 go home.

#2- they will do anything 2 make u broke while u r sound
sleeping. and, most of the time u can't find them back again
becos they r juz a freelance hooker which doesn't station in a
permanent place.

the two disco i can still remember 4 pick-up r metropolis and
a pub beside new world hotel. both r situated in district 1.
the standard charges 4 short-time is US$40-60 depend on the
quality of the gal u pick. but, if they know u r a outer space
alien, chances r they will open their lion mouth for US$100.
so, try 2 act as though u r an old timer and bargain ur way out.
beside disco, u could also get pick by gals on bike along the
street juz before midnite. most of tis gals will approach u by
asking u whether u want a massage in ur hotel. but be warned,
some r 'heshe'. so, remember 2 open ur eye and ear big big
b4 u grab one.

as 4 my personal experienced, i didn't book any hooker during
my 10 days trip in vn. i only frequent their massage parlour which
cost 100 k vnd (US$8) and hj by the massager which cost US$20.
the only fj i got along wif was a mamasan in one of the disco
which i cant remember the name. she can speak fluent manderin
and thus we started off smoothly. she invited me 2 buy her
supper and later her home. it was supposing free, but i tip her
500 thousand vnd. (nothing is free lah)

if u ask my opinion of vn, i would prefer indonesia than vn.
air-tickets and many expenses r also much cheaper 4 exploring
in indo.

anyway, good luck!

Further to request from brothers in"Brunei - Help" thread, here are some tips for Vietnam.

First port of call, if arriving at HCMC, should be the Saigon Bowl, which is just along the road from the Airport, seriously you could walk in 5 minutes. Upstairs near the bowling alley is a massage 'parlour' .. it's huge, recreation area is about the size of a hotel ballroom. The place is well appointed, very clean and cheap ... about S$10 for a 60 mins. massage. During the day there are not so many girls, evening is busier. Same arrangment as your average Sing HC. The girls are generally very pretty extremely obliging and about anything goes. Depends how good you are at negotiating or desperate you are. I often secured the services of Miss Thao .. slim, beautiful 19 y/o from Hanoi whom performs all services to a high standard .. cost - S$25 max for FJ.

More tomorrow.

Recommended places in HCMC - Black Jack.

Also visit Vung Tau website - www.vungtauvietnam.com for lots of info and more details on Vung Tau. I will give a lot more details in my next post.

2nd. Post.

First off .. HCMC .. most of the bigger hotels don't encourage 'friends' stopping over, they will either forbid you or charge you for an extra room. No problem, there are lots of good boutique hotels, small family hotels etc. S$40+ per night. Locate yourself near Dong Khoi (Road). In this same area lots of bars, varying from types where expats go (Underground, Saigon Saigon etc.) to girlie type bars .. have a walk around there are plenty.

Apocolypse Now (Club) is not all its cracked up to be ... but there are a few dodgy bars in the immediate vicinity.

Clubs (such as Catwalk) which are attached to hotels are worth a visit, but tend to be more expensive. Take aways nearer S$150-200 all night.

The scene moves all the time in HCMC, it is a huge place and there are many fantastic girls there. Black Jack is the current fave with those in the know.

If going to Vung Tau (worth a visit, lots of beaches, clean air, less humid than HCMC). Lots of Hotels to cater for all pockets (ORange Court, Royal, Rex, Palace are at the upper end .. max S$80 per night). Bars worth visiting .. Sweethearts (ask for Miss Me), Hot Gossip (Miss Thao), Summer Wine, Tequilia Sunrise , VFB .. buy the girls a drink (S$7 max.) and state your intent and voila. S$50 max for the night. Generally not a problem getting them into the hotel.

Clubs in Vung Tau - Hollywood East, Blue Sky, good chance of hooking up a freebie, also e's and smoke available.

Various - massage parlours all over. Recommended - Palace Hotel S$10 for massage, extras S$40 max for FJ. KTV lounges .. best bet - VIP. Very upmarket, girls are all models, S$80 for short time, drinks are Singapore price. 'No hands' Restaurant .. as the name implies you don't do a thing, you get fed and blown by delectables.

Nha Trang and Dalat next post

Only did a weekend in Phnom Phen so didn't really have enough time to check it out in full. Basically the place itself is a lot smaller than HCMC (no comparison really) so the choice is not so great. There were some beautiful Laotians that I happened upon .. and yes cheaper than Vietnam. I was nutted the whole weekend so I can't remember a great deal, names of places, streets etc.

Maybe check out Gary Glitter's website .. he should have the lowdown on young things in Cambodia having just been thrown out of there for young action.

Bro, when going to Cambodia you should first visit Holiday Disco. Pick-up range btwn US40-50 /nite. However, if you prefer to chose the younger ones, get a local to bring you to the Vietnam Village. There, it should set you back US30-40/nite
Hotels there are henerally cheaper that HCMC and without the red tapes imposed in HCMC.

Hi bro,

It's really not cheap to cheong in HCMC. But when I wuz there, I do enjoy the food, local and Chinese, yum yum yum...

First, check with the hotel you are staying if you can bring guest back to the room in the night, some "Guest-friendly" hotel allow by paying US$10 extra.

Here are some places you may need to try:
Cadillac Bar - District 1
It's a pub with life band, local & Philippino, nice environment

Underground - District 1
Pub with dance floor, play some old 70's music. Serve dinner as well

Apocalypse Now - District 1
The top pub in HCMC, basically a meat market.

Metropolis Disco - District ?? (can't remember)
A large disco with a lot of local chick around. Cover charge applied to local only.

For food, I would recommend:
ABC - District 1
Operate by a Hongkie boss, nice "Wan-Ton" Noodle and Beef Noodle.

Phung Vy - District 10 (China Town)
Good seafood at affordable price, really good, trust me!!

Most hotel in HCMC does have Health Centre, but, they don't have f**k service, just HJ and BJ, HJ cost around US$12 on top of the massage fee, for a full 1 hour massage session is around US$10.

Watch out for some girls on bike, some of them are "ah-kuah", they will approach you and ask you for a massage session, some really chun one which you can try to neg with them, per session is around US$150 onwards, not cheap!!

Memory a bit faded after my previous visit to HCMC last year.

ok, i went and came back.

Rude Beast
05-03-03, 04:17
The posts by enjoyguy may have been interesting 2-3 years ago. A lot of places mentioned are closed: Greenfields, Blackjacks (never a fave for those in the know).

I highly recommend U2 on Mac Thi Buoi, not too much hassle for lady drinks. FS available upstairs for VND 300,000 or a BJ in back VND 100.000.

Also, anyone who pays those prices at MP is paying way over the odds. HJ tip VND 100-120,000. In Vung Tau FS is VND 200,000 at almost any MP.

I regularly attend a Hot Toc (Barber Shop) near the Eastern Bus Station in Binh Thanh for VND 70,000 get a massage, shampoo and a BJ/HJ - No tip asked for.

Freelancers should be VND 500,000 max. Pham Ngu Lao area VND 300-400,000.

Wendella
05-05-03, 14:14
To any one who knows about the brothel in Phu Nhuan district, the one near the Bitis shoe store.

Is it the place RIGHT NEXT DOOR to the shoe store? Because that storefront is just up the street from where I am now, and the gate is OPEN and it's got a big bright Hot Toc sign above the storefront now -- lights are on and frosted glass blocks my view of who's sitting inside, but what I'm seeing now doesn't sound enough like the description I read on this forum that I think it's the same place, so I'm hesitating to go in. It maybe that it is the same place and it's changed now.

Any more info on this place, or a positive ID?

THANKS

Jimbehr2000
05-06-03, 07:19
I agree on U2. I think this is the best of the kissing bars in District One. I had a very good time there.

Meaty
05-07-03, 06:29
enjoyguy....excellent posts, really useful stuff, tried the vnladies and vietdate sites, thought they smelt like a ripoff, the pictures of the girls look toooo good and they charge you 10US$ just to send an e-mail to them! bring in mind you would maybe need to contact 15 to get maybe 6 or 7 hits it starts to be expensive considering you can quite easily do the same thing in person on arrival!
I'm over in Tan Binh at the mo, lots of Hot Toc's but not confident on the services, they appear tooo discreet. Can anyone recomend a good place around here, massage/sauna or whatever, preferably offering BJ and FS but still interested if only HJ.

Wendella.....Apologies for not coming back to the board sooner, my e-mail is meatywsg@hotmail.com if you need to e-mail, but i am a definite newby to Saigon and am not sure what info i could give but happy to try and help. The place in Phu Nhuan sounds interesting, can anyone help Wendella or i with more address details, and prices, services etc. Hey Wendella (and anyone else), i'm in Saigon now, if you fancy a hook up and we can check it out together. I'm on a tight budget but that doesnt mean we can't have fun right! although i'm a newbie here i work mostly in Bangkok so am not green to the wishes and intents of most of the girls, so its just all out fun if your up for it.

Virgin...you've posted some great stuff, any in my area, Tan Binh?

The sooner the response come the sooner the reports can be filed!!

Wendella
05-08-03, 15:28
hey just to update things - -that phu nhuan place is finito. it's a legitimate hot toc now. went there the other night to check it out, then later talked to the guy who posted the info originally. it's finished. no mas.

well meaty and i are now in touch (sort of)... so virgin and vietkieu were the two others i'd hoped to track down....

well....

not much more to add right now.

a few of the discos mentioned earlier are no longer, too:

* blue burned down in that big fire of course
* speed shut down
* spaceship and metropolis plus one other i think were involved with the infamous nam cam(sp?) who's on trial for everything but [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) his mother right now, so those are all either finished or as close to finished as a disco can get and still be open.

i heard of another one called olympic(?), plus one more that i'll need to recheck the name on. it's suppossed to be good.

Hentaitic
05-12-03, 17:06
Dear brudders,
Having been here for a week oledi after gaining valuable 'cheong' insights from the net, and living each nite to the max, now it's time I give back I think!

So if there is anyone here in Saigon, do email me at hentaitic@hotmail.com or reply to the thread here. I check my mail and surf from my hotel everyday.

Just FYI, for instance, from the hottest dance club in Saigan rite now, Club777, I have befriended a group of 6-7 Vietnamese FL gals. I promised them that I would be introducing my fellow Msian/Sporeans/Asians to them, if you guys are here in Saigon. One of them speaks Chinese and like speaking Mandarin to me. So far I have not tried any of them, as they are more like friends now.

As for me, I cheong in Vung Tao, and with the help of my local guide there, just last weekend, I booked a gal for 24hours for just US$50. Not overnite, really 24 hours! From 9am to 9am the next day! My knee still weak from the 5 times!!! Very GFE! Gal just 18 year old, I feel guilty I told her, I was just 23. (actual 29!!!)

Also a tip for you guys, get a local guy to buy the ferry ticket from Saigon to Vung Tao for you, just about US$5/one way against US$10/one way if we were to buy it yourself. We look Vietnamese so no problem!!!

virgin
05-13-03, 02:38
Originally posted by Wendella
HELLO VIRGIN.....

You say in your post below to email you if we have any questions -- how can I do that?

Also if MEATY or DIRTY D are reading, I'd like to email to you as well, again to just ask some questions.

I'm in Saigon now for about one week and need to try some other spots than where I have gone so far.

If you want to keep your email address off this forum, my email is wenchapman@yahoo.com

I hope to hear from you! Hi Wendella,

Just came back from 1 month holiday. Yesterday went 5 min on motorbike, saw some streetgals on Nguyen Thi Minh Kai, but not much (round the palace garden).

Concerning dirty d, think he went back to US.

Concerning the brothel that dirty d refered to I've tried a couple of month ago but think it went down, actually my vn language skills did not allow me to be sure if it was cancelled. I think it's the blue door between the store and the hot toc place (need to ring) but no chance to me. Anyway I tried the hot toc where there are a number of good gals (you can get mostly hj or bj depending on how your cheating but mostly more expensive than other barbershops, massage only 40.000vnd/hour but tipping about 100.000 for hj, I could not get lower)

Expecting news from you.

Virgin

virgin
05-13-03, 03:00
Hi All,

I'm mainly looking for daytime places to enjoy some short FJ with good service gal's. Mainly places I know are hot-toc for that but only some BJ, can anyone advice me (maybe in pham ngu lao).

Did anyone tried the new hot toc on le lai (opposite of pham ngu lao).

Thanks, I will come back with some new infos soon.

Virgin

virgin
05-13-03, 03:21
About massage place.

I used to go to a hotel located on Nguyen Duy Duong in cholon that caters only to locals... a huge reserve of gals.

They have sauna, jacuzzi, etc... while drinking a beer a few grils will by curiousity pas through the jacuzzi and I used to choose them their altough their used to be a dedicated girl. Those girl are up to hj even sometimes bj put yout can easily date them after work and then the fun begins. I even had one for free...

See ya

Virgin

Hentaitic
05-13-03, 17:26
After the police visited last Fri, the 9th May, Club 777 is now, officially close for about 2 weeks, from what the bouncers told me.

Some kind of violation I think. Now all the gals have streamed across to Apocalypse Now.

Time for me to get to know AN then!

virgin
05-14-03, 03:15
Ooops wendella, I forgot to mention my e-mail : [deleted by admin]

See ya

The purpose of the WSG Forum is to provide a public place for the exchange of information for men who are looking for sex with women. Unfortunately, there has been a recent escalation in the number of new members whose only contribution to the Forum have been requests for information to be "backchanneled" to them via their email address. Obviously, this does nothing to enhance the value of the Forum's collective database.

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Me Gai
05-14-03, 10:27
If you guy can read vietnamese then go here. I found this artical dated today 5-14-03 about raids of clubs in saigon.

http://vnexpress.net/Vietnam/Xa-hoi/2003/05/3B9C7BEA/

sumary:

Places were closed:
club 777, Mececa , MTV, cafe Bodega, Reason are: violation of noise, and light policy. Also violation of selling alcohol above 30degree, no license for selling of cigarete and playing of illegal music, etc... no mention of prostitution violation.

They aslo say that VC cops will surprise raid of all bars, clubs and karaoke places weekly now. I guess they really want to clean up for the upcomming seagams. Any good places left that haven't been raid yet?

Hentaitic
05-14-03, 12:28
Originally posted by Me Gai
If you guy can read vietnamese then go here. I found this artical dated today 5-14-03 about raids of clubs in saigon.

http://vnexpress.net/Vietnam/Xa-hoi/2003/05/3B9C7BEA/

They aslo say that VC cops will surprise raid of all bars, clubs and karaoke places weekly now. I guess they really want to clean up for the upcomming seagams. Any good places left that haven't been raid yet?

Hey there, hope that u dun mind I quote you in my posting at http://forum.********.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=236666#post236666

Great that u understand Vietnamese. So in yr knowledge, where have the crowds gone to now? Heat Disco? Apocalypse Now?

Hentaitic
05-14-03, 12:55
In spite of the bad news of closures, got good news for you guys today. Last nite, I met a Vietnamese guy at so fluent in Japanese tht he could easily be mistaken for a Jap.

Turn out to be that he's a guide for visiting Japanese hentai guys! According to him, the Japanese's fav place in Saigon is actually a hotel, karaoke which houses fishbowl gals!!! So I went and see. Unbelievable. Imagine a fishbowl concept in communist Vietnam also. About 20 -30 gals to select from in the fishbowl.

But the cost are high, about 60 -80USD an hour and about 90- 100USD overnite (inclusive of gal, room).

I promised him that I would promote his services on the net. So here goes.
Name: Duong Hung Thang
Tel: 090 3367827
Email: duonghungthang@hotmail.com

he speaks english, Jap, and of course vietnamese. If you are in need of a hotel that would allow 'guests' he will also be able to source one for you. No nonsense of having to book two rooms stuff.

And a correction from him about my info at the guest friendly hotel, Hai Long 1 hotel , there is no need to book 2 rooms too.

Hentaitic
05-14-03, 12:57
Tonite I found a club/disco where there actually pole dancing. Well the pole do not go all the way to the ceiling! Funny sight!
It is located at Saigon's little Japan, so called because there are so many Japanese restaurant along this street, the Le Thanh Ton!

The Club is called "Cau Lac Bo So" along the street towards Tan Van Lung Street! But still amazing there's pole dancing cause Saigon is still technically communist!

Hentaitic
05-14-03, 13:47
Please help me correct any mis infomation here:

Vung Tau FAQ (14 May 2003 Ver)
1. Cost of fastferry
Adult Vietnamese: 80,000 D
Adult Foreigner : 145,000 D

2. Timings (HCMC to VT), (VT to HCMC also)
Petro + Greenline express : 0615, 0800, 1000, 1200, 1400, 1600, 1645 hrs
Vina Express : 0600, 0730, 0830, 1130, 1330, 1430, 1630 hrs
Personal fav: Greenline cos the on board waitresses wear the irresistable semi-translucent body hugging Ao Dais!

3. Hotels with "Boom Boom" MP (FJ: 20USD tips)
Palace Hotel: (84.64) 856 411
Maritime Safety Hotel

4. Hotels with Good "Non Boom Boom" MP (80,000 D / hour)
Cap Saint Jacques Hotel (84.64) 807 068 at "Bai Sau" or Back Beach!

5. Guest friendly hotels (NO need to book extra room for gal)
My Hoa (USD 15) DT: (84.64) 854 081

6.Guest Friendly hotels (BUT gotta book extra room for gal, so please ask first)
Holiday Mansion Hotel (USD 15) DT: (84.64) 856 169

7. Discos with FL gals
Hollywood East
Blue Sky (Grand Hotel)
Club7 (Vung Tau P&T Hotel)
VIP Club (2nd Floor- Gals with Number Tag, just choose one and Go!!!)

8. My English speaking Vung Tao guru and guide: (also rented his bike for 24hours for USD 6)
Mr Tien : 090 821 7843
Only he could show you the way to the Karaoke where I got my 24hour booking for just USD 50. I really can't remember the way to the karaoke. ( Actually, I am just promoting his services, he he he!)

Wendella
05-14-03, 15:06
OK now,

Sme good info in recent days especially from Hentaitic (but what was the Japanese hotel you were talking about? You can't describe a place like that and then keep its identity a secret!)

If not I guess I can do so here, but that may take a long time with the 2 day delay thing.

If you give me a better idea of location of that hot toc may be able to help you out on that. Le Lai is long. What's it next to?

Thanks

Hentaitic
05-14-03, 19:38
Originally posted by Wendella
OK now,

Sme good info in recent days especially from Hentaitic (but what was the Japanese hotel you were talking about? You can't describe a place like that and then keep its identity a secret!)



Why not you contact the "duonghungthang" guy like I have mentioned? Since he is the originator, why not give him the credit to show you the place?

Tonight he showed me another place where there are GROs who'll stripdance while we enjoyed our beers. Touch and caress no problem. But one caveat though, guests have to order a cart of beer, that is 24 bottles of beer at one go at about 28,000 D per bottle.
This place is somewhere in Thanh Bihn district.

Me Gai
05-14-03, 22:36
Hentaitic, you are the man !!!

I'm not in Vietnam yet, but i'm leaving the US for VN soon. So, I don't know what the scene in saigon now. I'll be there about june 29. Can you describe about the fishbowl gals more. Are those gals just for Karaoke companions purpose or that's a brothel and the girl go back to your place for boom boom???

Any suggestion about nice cheap hotels in Vietnam? I don't really need a guess friendly since I go with another friend. So if I want action, my girl and I have to get another room for us any way. I just need a cheap and always have room available. I'm thinking about staying at Duna hotels. Any other suggestions??

Wendella
05-15-03, 16:29
TO VIRGIN:

Your posts earlier in this forum mention that we should email you for more information. But there is no email given for us to do that. I would like to.

I think my email address was edited out of my last posting here (I presume by the moderator, though it's possibel IE ate it) as well as my request for you to please email me. My email address IS still up on this forum, down a ways from here....

I've spoken with a few others here offline (Meaty, Warriorxxx, Dirty D) with little trouble.

VietKieu is another guy I was hoping to contact.

Thanks
WC

The purpose of the WSG Forum is to provide a public place for the exchange of information for men who are looking for sex with women. Unfortunately, there has been a recent escalation in the number of new members whose only contribution to the Forum have been requests for information to be "backchanneled" to them via their email address. Obviously, this does nothing to enhance the value of the Forum's collective database.

Therefore, following the policies of other Forums, I have decided that Regular Members may not post email or website addresses in their reports. Any reports from Regular Members containing email or website addresses will be edited. Subsequence reports will be deleted in their entirety.

If you have information, then post it. If you want information, then post a question.

Senior Members, by virtue of their significant contributions to the Forum, are exempted from this limitation and thus may post email and website addresses in their reports if they so desire.

As always, your comments are welcome, although if you want me to read them you should post them in the "Comment on Site Rules" area of the Administration Section of the Forum.

Thanks,

Jackson

Wendella
05-15-03, 17:03
Hentaitic,

Well, it's because the idea here is that we come here to share information... freely. One of the main reasons is so we're not at the mercy of taxi drivers who will charge us for that same info---when they drive up prices by taking a commission for each customer that they deliver to a certain establishment, which gets added to that customer's bill. I've often been hit with DOUBLED prices that way. (You probably were charged too, but probably---hopefully---for much less than double. Though I will say that the prices you quote sound pretty far out of line in the high direction.)

Now your guy probably is wonderful, or you wouldn't be so willing to help him out by advertising his services here. That's cool. If I want to use him, I have his phone number now and it's no problem to get in touch with him.

If you still want to share the info, that's cool. I would really appreciate it if you did. If not, fair enough. As they say here, up to you.

Wendella

Hentaitic
05-15-03, 18:55
Just as the Khao San Rd Backpacker's areas in Metro Bangkok's getting hipper with the local Thai clubbers, so too is the Pham Ngu Lao backpacker's area in Saigon. Went to book a busticket to Dalat on for the weekend, from the many tourist agencies in the area. Only USD5 all the way to Dalat.

Before I left, remembered my FL friends mentioning something about "The Heat Club" along the Pham Ngu Lao street. So went to check it out. True enough, much eyecandies as it is packed to the max!!! Also bumped into my FL friends over there. Seems like with the closure of Club 777, their interest have shifted to the club. Good news for brudders putting up at the New World Hotel as this club is just about 5 min walk away. And many many gal friendly hotels in the vicinity. Very convenient indeed!!! Now the bad news, heard that the going rate is USD50 and USD80 overnite. OUCH!!!

Personally I don't quite like Apocalypse Now as it is a bit like Orchard Tower Singapore, probably 100% FLs gal only. In places like Club 777 and Club Heat, it is a mix, with regular clubbing gals and also FL gals.

As for MeeRung/Shark/Rainforest and Liquid disco, they are still open but quite dead actually.

That's all the clubs I have been to recently. As always, if there's any misinformation please post a correction here.

Hentaitic
05-18-03, 16:25
Well, apologies first and foremost. Today no great stuff to share. Blame it on the weather and Lonely Planet.

You see, I stole time off work today to sneak to the Saigon Water World, all ready with my waterproof camera to snap some bikini Vietnamese babes. But when I reached there at 4pm, they told me that the place would be closed at 5pm. I showed them the Lonely Planet in which it is written, Mon - Sat open from 11am to 7pm, Sunday 8am to 8pm. Will somebody update Lonely Planet of the times please!!!

Spent USD4 to get all the way there, for nothing. Luckily there's a shuttle bus back, for only 5000 D which would drop us at Ben Thanh Market. Somebody please explain why is Ben Thanh market closed so early, at 6pm? When I got there at 5pm, they are about to pack up. Found a vietnamese springroll stall with 3 cute gals, and sat behind the glass counter. Wow, a good downblouse of all 3 gals for a good 15mins as they were clearing up their stall. Can see all the way to their belly button!!! All because I can look thru the glass counter! He He He!!!

Damn, I am a hopeless opportunist!!!

I wish that the Ben Thanh Market could open all the way around the clock just as it is in Thailand Flower Market cos there are some cute gals that we can 'sian'. At 6pm close, that's rediculous!!!

Going Dalat tomorrow. Anyone has any good info to share of this place?

Gundam
05-20-03, 20:09
Hi fellas,

I'm going to be an expat in Saigon due to my job in a few month. I'd like to know where and how to find an house for renting (it's better in downtown or residence or suburbs ?) and rates for a 100-square-meters. Do you know any agency ?

Thanks

Leo

Warriorxxx
05-22-03, 02:29
Gundam

email me at thunhon@attbi.com and let me know what price range and where about. Maybe I will be able to help you out.

Taodan
05-22-03, 04:24
Originally posted by Gundam
Hi fellas,

I'm going to be an expat in Saigon due to my job in a few month. I'd like to know where and how to find an house for renting (it's better in downtown or residence or suburbs ?) and rates for a 100-square-meters. Do you know any agency ?

Thanks

Leo

Leo,
Searching for a house to rent in WSG is a wrong place :-) Try to use search engines (google, yahoo, ect...) for housing for rent in hochiminh city. Good luck.

Taodan
05-22-03, 04:39
According to vnexpress.net in vietnamese edition, many bars (Xinh Xin, Paradise, Dep, and Nhat Nguyet) in Hochiminh City on Thai Van Lung, Le Thanh Ton, Thi Sach, and Hai Ba Trung streets in District 1 have been closed or will be closing due to decline in number of customers because of SARS. So if you guy(s) are planning to travel to Hochiminh City in Vietnam and look for some of the bar(s) mentioned here by forum member(s). They could be closed. Good luck and have fun guy(s). Please don't forget to post your review(s) for member(s) to read. Thanks in advance.

Meaty
05-23-03, 03:00
Gundam> as a fellow expat working in asia i find www.asiaxpat.com pretty good. It will give you all the possible info you could want for Saigon and the better stuff you can find here!!
Only one problem, the housing agencies tend to show you expensive places and take large commissions for doing so. I have a British colleague based in Saigon, if you would like him to contact you locally and offer any advice please leave your contact details on this site, or e-mail me at meatywsg@hotmail.com and i will forward them onto him. In line with Jacksons rules, i won't be sharing any other type of info through the e-mail.

Wendella> hows tricks, you don't seem as active out there as you were!?!? Have you tried those go-go bars posted earlier?
Laters
Meaty

Wendella
05-23-03, 08:46
Mr. Meat,

Yes I've been fairly active recently but have been so caught up with work and play that no time to report here. It's mostly been the same kinds of things we all know about, so nothing very exciting to report.

Moonshine is closed already, and a lot of these bars are still open but empty night after night, so it does not surprise me. A girl from Moonshine I ran into said that the police had closed it due to some kind of fight taking place there, and that she didn't think it'd reopen. Then again, someone else had told me the same thing about Long Phi bar a few weeks back and that's up and running again.

I made a mission recently of checking out every single one of the hostess bars in the HBT/Thai Van Lung/Thi Sach area, different one every night. Winner hands down for sheer selection and overall beauty has to be..... heh, I think I'll allow you to guess. ;-) The clue is that it's on HBT.

777 is currently closed, probably will reopen soonish... Heat on Pham Ngu Lao seems to be the current hotspot (haven't been to Liquid lately, but heard it was not hopping)...Saigon Super Bowl was a ghost town at 11:30pm Saturday night. Apocalypse is getting hassled by police big time this past week -- last night they even stopped them from allowing dancing. Next week, I guess it will be no drinking. And then..... no one will be allowed to speak inside the club.

Wait so WHY is it nobody is allowed to dance inside the disco? Is it the usual reason, to stop drugs? Here's a crazy idea: what about catching the people doing drugs without stopping the people who just want to drink and dance? It invovles something that perhaps one day may be introduced into this country: police work.

Ah yes the pole dancing.... nearly forgot. No that was a pretty misleading bit of info by Hentaitic actually. They dance fully dressed. This hidden secret place he's talking about is the very well known Club One. So "at Thi Sach" also turned out to be pretty inaccurate. It's discoveries like these that make me feel not so bad about his withholding the info on the fishbowl place from us. I suspect he's talking about Lisa Hotel though.

Gundam: I'll be in touch with someone soon (friend of a friend) who knows all these expat matters, including I think lower priced apartments -- get my email off Meaty and I'll let you know the score as soon as I know it myself.

I'm told rents for us foreigners can be as low as 2 million dong a month..... that's about $125 US.

Hentaitic
05-23-03, 18:18
Busy wif having my boss around in Saigon. Now that he has returned to Spore, I can cheong again.

Well, an important update:
The FL friends told me yesterday that the Heat Disco (Phan Ngu Lau) management has disallowed FLs into the disco. And so, my FL friends has moved to Liquid at Hai Ba Throng. Worth mentioning is the number of cute waitresses in tight spaceage uniforms. And with Club 777 still close, Apocalypse Now disallowing dancing (yes, dancing disallowed in a disco!!!) naturally even the normal clubbing gals have moved to Liquid. So the place has suddenly picked up its pulse!

Memorable too is the motorcycle trip made to Liquid Disco as I was ferried there on a motorcycle sandwiched between 2 gals. Now got me thinking of trying a 3 some. HE He He !!! Upon reaching there, one of the FL was quickly snapped up by a horny Vietnamese there. She is about a 7 on looks.

After so many mentions of my FL friends, now let me share where they usually hang out if they are without customers. From Apolcalypse Now, walk along Thi Sach Road heading towards the Cong Truong Me Linh Roadabout. At the corner of Thi Sach and Hai Ba Thung is a makeshift coffee stall with just the miniature chair and tables belonging to a middle aged lady. Yes, all of them will usually be there, especially after 12midnite, after all the discos have closed. Going rate among them are 50USD to 100USD overnite dependant upon their looks. There is one with killer looks (about an 8), slim but with huge mammaries but beware, she is a junkie, with many needle marks on her arm. She charges around USD70 and has a lover who works as a motorcycle taxi.

So guys, be careful when you are with FLs.

Rude Beast
05-23-03, 18:20
Gundam,

As a fellow expat working in asia I find www.asiaxpat.com pretty good. It will give you all the possible info you could want for Saigon and the better stuff you can find here!! ---

Not to the point of this site so much but this just ain't a resource that should be taken seriously as far as Vietnam is concerned....The best site for info on bars/restaurants etc.. is www.elephantguide.com

Hentaitic
05-23-03, 18:24
Originally posted by hentaitic
Tonite I found a club/disco where there actually pole dancing. Well the pole do not go all the way to the ceiling! Funny sight!
It is located at Saigon's little Japan, so called because there are so many Japanese restaurant along this street, the Le Thanh Ton!

The Club is called "Cau Lac Bo So" along the street towards Tan Van Lung Street! But still amazing there's pole dancing cause Saigon is still technically communist!

Sorry never knew that pole dancing refers to only the topless ones. Guess this place's "pole dancing" is the tame version then. Then again, this place's Main Selling Point are the cute hostesses who will try to befriend you and maybe get a drink or more off from you. And the whole place is pretty much aimed at the Japanese businessman.

Is this place really called Club 1???

Wendella
05-24-03, 13:09
If it is not called Club 1 now, either it was in the past or that's just what it's known as in English. It's address is 1 Le Thanh Ton -- that one?

Apocalypse: the police came that night (Thursday?) and stopped them playing music loud, which meant no dancing. Lights got turned up too. But yes, it's pretty bizarre when nobody can dance in a disco. Anyway, there was dancing again on Friday, tho they're still closing at midnight until further notice (another week or so probly).

Sounds like Liquid may be worth a look. There were a few cuties I'd seen in AN in past weeks who are nowhere to be found anymore there. Maybe that's where they're hiding.

Hentaitic
05-24-03, 18:03
Saturday nite live reporting from Heat Disco, Phan Ngu Lau.

Seen for myself what my FL frens have mentioned. Heat Disco has banned all the FL gals that they are aware of. So what do the FL gals do? They hang around outside the disco. So guys, now it's ever more easy to spot them now. HE HE HE!!!

Inside the disco is so packed, there's hardly any standing room. Filled to the brim with both male and female clubbers. Many of whom are Club 777 regulars that have switched to Heat Disco because Club 777 is still closed.

But one thing I dun like about Heat Disco is how the bouncers usher you to move on. I knw that they are trying to smooth out the human traffic inside the packed disco but putting their hands on me, and sometimes 'pushing' me on, I dun like at all!!! Wish I could communicate this into Vietnamese to them. If they really still want to do that, they ought to hire goodlooking female bouncers instead!!!

Hentaitic
05-25-03, 12:38
Hey, hey, hey, finally got to the Saigon Water Park. I only saw one bikini babe but nvm, all the "wet t-shirts" made-up for it.

You see, many of the gals came with light coloured blouse with also light coloured bras underneath, and when they are wet, you could actually see their darker, protruding nipples. Some of the younger gals are even naive enough to come with their training bras, which are thin and when wet, you could literally see thru them. But still it's not the best yet. One came braless, yet wore a light colored top! That was the best!!!

Do Vietnamese gals dislike the swimsuit? At the beach I could understand not wearing the swimsuit but definitely at the swimming pool or waterpark, they should.

The crazy thing is that they allow cameras into the waterpark. Even crazier is that they have a Sony booth setup to rent-out videocams for use in the waterpark. I could see many Vietnamese guys positioning themselves at strategic positions to capture all these "freeshows". Their favourite strategic position is at the "mattress slide" where one slide downwards headfirst on one's stomach . Whoa so many wet downblouse, it's crazy!

I brought my underwater camera and my digital camera but did not take any pictures. I was intimidated by the daring Vietnamese "videographers" perhaps.

Here are the details about the SWP:
1.SWP charter-bus (5000 VND/one way) from Ben Thanh Market busstop to SWP leaves everyhour from 0800 - 1500hrs. No bus at 1200.
2.SWP to BT market leaves everyhour also from 1100 to 1800hrs.
3. SWP is only closed on Tuesday.

One tip: Go in the morning as most of the crowd leaves after 2pm.

Prosal
05-26-03, 11:54
Any report on the 30th floor disco/bar of the new HCM Sheraton and the atmosphere of the hotel (guest friendly ?)

Thanks

Hentaitic
05-26-03, 18:25
Retraction 26/5/03

My earlier conclusion that Heat Disco has barred all FL was only a half truth. Actually, the barring only applies on Friday and Saturday nites when the place is filled to the max with clubber. It makes sense that Heat is doing so because the FLs will only spend the minimum inside the disco compared to the freespending Saigon youths. Therefore, on these nites the FLs have no choice but to hang outside the disco.

Today it's business as usual inside the disco. They, the FLs can usually be found hanging ard the bar, looking displaced even bored. There are 2 bars in opposite ends of the disco. Common sense will tell you they will usually be at the bar further away from the dance floor and the blarring music. Rarely will they have alcohol, mostly orange juice or fruit juice. Cos they have to WORK!

Earlier I manage to sneak into the Vietnam Fashion Week show at the Opera house between Continental Hotel and Caravelle Hotel. Apparently the guests are by invitation only. Whoa! True blue Vietnamese runway models, about 20 of them!!! Not only do they look good, they "sashay" so very suggestively down the runway too. Took many pictures and short video clips. Anyone interested to view them? If there are enough interest I will upload them.

I hv always fantasized about doing a threesome with pair of identical twin runway models. Well, I can dream on, can't I?

Taodan
05-27-03, 21:23
Originally posted by hentaitic

Do Vietnamese gals dislike the swimsuit? At the beach I could understand not wearing the swimsuit but definitely at the swimming pool or waterpark, they should.


Hentaitic,
Not that they don't like swimsuit. They are SHY. You don't see many of them wear bikinis at the swimming pool or waterpark.

Shaggydog
05-28-03, 03:52
Originally posted by hentaitic
Retraction 26/5/03

Today it's business as usual inside the disco. They, the FLs can usually be found hanging ard the bar, looking displaced even bored. There are 2 bars in opposite ends of the disco. Common sense will tell you they will usually be at the bar further away from the dance floor and the blarring music. Rarely will they have alcohol, mostly orange juice or fruit juice. Cos they have to WORK!
Totally man. Was there on Monday night as well, sitting exactly at that bar & watched at least 7 of them trying to stir up some interest.

Anyway, thanx Hentaitic & everyone else for the post, its been VERY informative.

Shaggydog
05-28-03, 03:57
Originally posted by hentaitic
True blue Vietnamese runway models, about 20 of them!!! Not only do they look good, they "sashay" so very suggestively down the runway too. Took many pictures and short video clips. Anyone interested to view them? If there are enough interest I will upload them.
Yes please, it'll be worth a look. Thanx fro the effort, Hentaitic :D

Najene
06-01-03, 18:58
YES, I would, Shaggy

Hentaitic
06-02-03, 02:22
Anyone with or without Vietnamese Language skills you could try at the famous 131 Cafe Nhactre Bar at 131, Nguyen Hue , Dist 1. There are more than 100 waitress and hostess in this bar alone. I was brought to this place by a 'resting' Corona beer promoter I met at Club 777, before it was closed. This place according to her, is very popular among the Vietnamese, as a pickup place for the waitress/hostess. If not what for the more than 100 of them.

This place if I am not wrong, is affliatted to the infamous No.1 Cafe Nhactre Bar at Ly Tu Throng.

Less popular but also lotsa gals is the 119 Bar located just a few shops beside the 131.

Hentaitic
06-03-03, 19:17
The biggest party tonite must be the 12th anniversary of Apocalypse Now(AN)
It's still rocking on as I type and it's already 1.15am. Still, there are people arriving!

The models from Vietnam Fashion week were also there. The coolest thing was that they left in their own Honda 150cc Scooters. Imagine them in their little black dress, riding a scooter. Sexist thing I ever saw on 2 wheels.

Well, soon after they left, I left too. Btw, my live reporting from Saigon has been extended to this Friday by my boss. Anyone from here was at the 12th anniversary too???

Hentaitic
06-07-03, 16:19
For those that have asked me for the short clips on the models at Vietnam Fashion Week...here are my favs!!!
http://sg.briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/hentaitic/lst?&.dir=/vietnam&.src=bc&.view=l

Also saw these models at the 12th anniversary of Apocalypse Now!!!

Now, if any of you guys , managed to 'bed' any of them, do post a FR please!!!

Erik
06-08-03, 23:40
Originally posted by hentaitic
For those that have asked me for the short clips on the models at Vietnam Fashion Week...here are my favs!!!
http://sg.briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/hentaitic/lst?&.dir=/vietnam&.src=bc&.view=l

Also saw these models at the 12th anniversary of Apocalypse Now!!!

Now, if any of you guys , managed to 'bed' any of them, do post a FR please!!!

Folders are currently empty. Thank you for nothing mate !

Me Gai
06-09-03, 20:34
I got same message " Folder is currently empty" What happen ??

2fast4u
06-11-03, 22:33
Where are the files for the Models Club Liquid is empty, Club 777 had a lot of girls but now it is closed. Club heat is cool but not that many girls, and AN has a lot of girls but, most are 4 and 5's. Not that many in the 8,9,10. I stuck with the bars like NO. 1, lots of good looking girls in the 8,9,and 10's. There is a girl there by the name of Hang. What a cutie. And Hien, wow. Nice girls. The dancers are sweet too, man o man.

I went to Windows of the World and it was full of bums (guys) and maybe 4 girls there and out of those 4 girls I took 2 of them there. Last year when I was there you could find a massage parlor (you know what I mean) anywhere and now I can't find one to save my life. It seems that it cost almost 65 bucks for a girl of quality 8 in a club like 777. I would go to a beer one place and have 3 girls come in and tell them to go to my hotel on different days. They are a lot cheaper and a lot better looking, that for me is the best bet because when you go to a club, the girl you like is already with some dude.

Any girl you want anywhere you can get, you can walk down the street, in a store, where ever you can get her, but remember there is always a price. It all depends on you and your wallet. Somehow the ones I want always want a relationship. and that get expensive. Learn from my mistake!

Asiaphile
06-12-03, 02:58
Will be in VN in a month or so and wondering...
What's the latest on the bia om around Hai Ba Trung? Has Paradise closed for good? What was the reason? Is U2, Crystal still happening? What are the best of the the ones still open and who all has been shut down recently? What are the best HCMC discos for beauties and action? Hopefully, some local expats or recent travellers have the inside scoop on the scene.

RatuFreddie
06-12-03, 06:55
asiaphile:

bars around HBT seem to be closing daily - and reopening two days later, some with new names, old faces.
you have to check for yourself when you are here.

as far as i know there are only two discos happening currently: HEAT on Pham Ngu Lao Str. and good, old AN

Heat definitely has the prettier girls, but also not as easy to score, as the scene is very mixed. by far not every girl there is a working girl!

Booby Boob
06-22-03, 05:16
I've scanned the VN reports but nothing is ever mentioned about having multiple girls at the same time (whether it be for 1 or 1+ guys). Is this something that is just never done? If not, is it the women who generally find it unacceptable, or are there other factors involved?

I will be spending a few weeks in HCM and would appreciate any info.

Thanks.
-The Boob

Explorer88
06-24-03, 03:06
Booby boob,

Two girls can be had in VN.

I got lucky my first time out. This was a year back so the geography may be off.

I was staying in the Renaissance (I think district 3), a total expat zone. Went to a little bar not too far on one of the side streets. It had a red light outside, so you know what was going on inside.

All it was was a bar with girls. Started chatting up one of the gals and bought her drinks. Negotiated to go to a hotel owned by the owner of the bar. She wanted to bring a friend for 'safety and fun'

I told her I wasn't going to double the amount we agreed to, they discussed it and decided they would split the money and both go (about US$30 each).

We hopped into a cab, rode for about 15 minutes, got to the hotel, paid the room fee for 2 hours ($15) and did the deed with both of them.

Next day the came to my hotel and I took them to lunch at a riverside cafe and they showed me the city.

Very nice.

Ex88

Wendella
06-30-03, 17:47
OK well the update for these days.....

the famous disco 777 is now absolutely No More. The original report about it here was that it got shut down and would reopen in a few weeks. Well unless their new look is going to be the Gutted look, it's history. I looked in the door and the place has been torn to shreds inside.

The hot discos these days seem to be Heat and Liquid, and Apocalypse is same as it's always been.

All the major hostess bars are still operating, no worries there. Paradise was said to have closed. Not true (unless it was just a few days). I was there. It's unchanged.

Long Phi bar on Pham Ngu Lao shut down again this weekend, in order to relocate a ways down PNL next month.

The police crackdown situation hasn't been very noticeable lately.

GoodEnough
07-01-03, 10:08
I'll be going to HMC next week for the first time, and going from Hanoi. I only have a couple of days and no time for any thorough research. What are the best two or three places to go and how do the prices compare with Hanoi? Thanks for any help.

Asiaphile
07-01-03, 14:10
based on what i'm hearing from various ex-pats and most recent travelers the disco scene has suffered from recent crackdowns in hcmc. according to a recent post here (thanks ratafreddie) heat and an are happening as usual but a lot of disco "hot spots" have closed down like blue, 777, speed, and some others. i don't like the disco scene in vn particularily, but if you dig new century in hanoi you'll probably like heat in pham ngu lao. lots of stunning babes who may or may not be available.

some other direct hit and miss venues (but more obvious hits) are the rather expensive hotel club joints like saigon-saigon (caravelle) with its boring filipino band and catwalk (new world) with plenty of expensive eye candy. i am forever amused by the typical line, "i go with you honey one hundred dollah." it's pathetic when it comes out of the mouth of burnt out older pros who have been hanging out in the same place for 7-8 yrs.

over the decade, i've found the aforementioned scenes only fair to poor in hcmc, so i usually just stumble around the infamous hai bai trung str areas and make calls on my favorite bia/karaoke oms and a few formal dance clubs. the quality can be found but the price is usually not cheap - at least not on a night in and night out basis.

for me, i'll more than likely mostly stick to a few rather obscure venues where some barbershops, relax cafes and private hotels have the goods for a much more reasonable sum of vnd. perfect st in the late afternoon or early evening so i'm more ready the next day to get out of bed early and see as much as possible in vn, not just the same old nightlife (heck, meeting regular girls in the daytime is great!). most of the bia om girls i've had seem to like lt but they also tend not to be available to take out until quite late.

i can't wait for my next one month trip later this year. the only question i'll have for myself is, how long on the ground in vn and how long in wild wooly, delicious cambodia.

Booby Boob
07-06-03, 08:12
Thanks for the words of encouragement, Explorer88.

It'll be my first time in HCMC and I was wondering if anyone could suggest a few good parts of the city where I can just hang out and get to know "the scene."

I'm also on the lookout for the more "mature" type, so the places Asiaphile mentions in the previous post with "older pros" have been well noted. Any other places I should know about? In general, are older women going demand high prices, or should I expect a geriatric discount?

Thanks in advance.

The Boob

MrMeyers
07-07-03, 04:04
Booby Boob,

If you are into older women they are going to love you to death! Great thing about HCMC is that it is such an open, friendly and alive city. Can't go wrong walking around anywhere in District 1, best way to discover and try places is to just walk, there are too many to mention and things change weekly. Pay no attention to the guys on bikes and especially ciclos.

Anyone have any experience with marriage in Vietnam? Thinking about it, but not taking her out of VN. Sounds strange, but after dozens of trips, sleeping with multiple extremely beautiful 18-20yo girls gets old after a while :) Vietnam truly is paradise.

Taodan
07-09-03, 14:04
Originally posted by mrmeyers

Anyone have any experience with marriage in Vietnam? Thinking about it, but not taking her out of VN. Sounds strange, but after dozens of trips, sleeping with multiple extremely beautiful 18-20yo girls gets old after a while :) Vietnam truly is paradise.

mrmeyers,
So what is the point of marriage if you don't want to take her out of VN? Your thinking has no logic. Why don't you just continue of what you have been doing? And that saves you a lots of hassle.

MrMeyers
07-10-03, 01:33
Taodan,

I don't know, I guess I broke the golden rule and fell in love.

Booby Boob
07-17-03, 09:05
Anyone have any experience photographing the girls? Will they let you do it? Do you have to negotiate beforehand?

I'm not looking to sell any pictures or video or anything. I'd just like to have a couple of good souvenirs for my own personal use.

The Boob

2fast4u
07-18-03, 20:20
Yes you can take pictures and videos. I've taken pictures and videos of girls but they were my girlfriends (wink wink). I never had to pay to video them. The trick is first take picture of them with clothes on and with you. They won't think that all you want is sex pictures. I've never had a girl say no so good luck. They even pose for me and do all sorts of stuff, every one wants to be a movie star, you know what I mean. HEHEHEHE

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Knight
07-25-03, 23:09
Hi, all brother

I will have business trip to HCM soon. Will stay in Sofitel Hotel. Is there good spot I can walk thru around the hotel or inside the hotel?

Any help infor will be truly appreicated.

Ciao

MeatMan
07-26-03, 22:46
This is another place I have my eye on...How's the scene here guys? I hear good things about Ho Chi Min City.As soon as I'm done with my 2 week tour of Thailand, I'm off to Vietnam.Im not going to go into a debate on race because I heard it all

(I'd probably be the only brotha* in Vietnam)

MEATMAN

Tomsii
07-30-03, 17:35
Hi,

I'll be in VN soon. Anybody has idea where to hook-up with GFE type?

Thanks,

Marcos
08-02-03, 15:14
So here I'm in VN with the decision to regularly post reports about the trip, that has already started in the best way for me, unlike my last visit to Argentina that I left undocumented despite the many interesting things that happened there, the only excuse I have is that I was a little bit emotionally displaced.

Day 1

Arrived in Ho Chi City and got my visa (us$ 25) there. I think this can save you at least us$ 35 compared to a visa issued by a consulate abroad. I had some 'approval' letter that the travel agency prepared for me. Checked in at the Empress Hotel in Dist. 1, across the street from the big Christian church, again it was booked for the first night by the travel agency but I negotiated a better rate (us$ 25) for the following days. The hotel proved to be quite girl friendly as they allow late night guests to stay by charging you an additional room for $12. They ask you to have your guest goto to the additional room in case the police asks, but I think thst has never happened. The hotel is nice super-clean and friendly but the rooms are small and noisy if facing the street. Well now for some action let's talk about apocalypse now.
Boy whoever said that place is not so good is seriously wrong. I was there two days and it rocks. No cover charge and it was packed by both partygoers and working girls. You may like it or not as a club but the bottom line is that there are tens of girls to choose from, most of them very hot with a lot of 8's and 9's. Just smile and talk to them as they won't approach you openly. Spoke to some and they didn't seemed to be in a bargaining mood, insisting on us$ 50 for 1 hour. I didn't wanted to negotiate too much neither so spoke to another that was ok to stay three hours for the same money. Not a model but she had a firm body and an happy face that made me smile too. She spoke anough english and whole thing was very GFE (boy I don't use that acronym usually but it totally matches the situation here). She rode me on her motorbike to the hotel and we had a very good time. She loved to be eaten and I did a good part of my repertoire to total satisfaction on both (I think) parts. After that she wanted to leave erliear than agreed, coming out with the usual excuse and I left her do so, I was still tired and wanted to sleep, didn't really care for more company. She would have stayed had I insisted but, hey this is a free world and there were absolutely no bad vibes around so I did't felt cheated at all. Saw her the following day again at AN, made clear to her that i wasn't to repeat so we just hugged and a spoke a bit.

Day 2

I went to the beach with my friends (all Viets, local or expats) and after a great seafood lunch we took a bath and some tanning. Boy the sun is strong there, be prepared! Half-afternoon we went to massage parlor that is attached to the Myle Hotel. The place is very clean and spacious. Got a nice girl, short hair, she steambathed and massaged me well. She did also all the rest and was very good at sucking, didn't let a single drop to be lost. before that I ate and boned her to release on the massage bed but I wasn't totally relaxed as it is not the place to go very long on these things, due to the glass door and the fact she undressed just her pants. She asked dhong 700,000 but I gave her 250,000 and I think it was right. After going back to the city (can take almost two hours) I slept some more and got ready for action again at AN. Boy the starts were aligned or something, in short I met an hot petite that for a good start pinched my butts on the dancefloors. She was with her girlfriends but we started dancing together and didn't stop until they closed about 2 am. I was about to screwup the whole thing or at least offend her by talking money but she's not an hooker and just go for fun. Great english, strong small body and high energy. We slept together after running out of batteries just to start again in the early morning. Like the ad goes, dinner for two $4. sex in the morning, priceless. Won't forget this one.

to be continued ... in the Hanoi section

Chikan
08-03-03, 15:23
stoly,
Good report so far...keep up with the reports..it seems this nam section lacks sometimes...lets break that trend!!!!
PS. Sounds like you got lucky with that last chick.....hehe.

GoodEnough
08-04-03, 00:17
I agree with Stoly about Apocalypse Now in Saigon. The place rocks, and it's not only crammed with professionals, but with party girls as well. I was there last week and had a great time, with several offers of later entertainment. The place is much larger than its counterpart in Hanoi and much more upscale.

Dave #2
08-05-03, 20:20
Going to Vietnam late August. Don't want to bring girls back to my place since a lot of my coworkers will be staying at the same hotel on the same floor.

Any massage parlor recommendations? Looking for parlors that have private rooms with a nice rub down and a good finish (more than a HJ).

Staying at the New World hotel.

Thanks,

Dave.

Marcos
08-08-03, 11:30
Last update on Ho Chi Min City, as I'm in Bangkok now. I just want to add few facts about how to get the best out of this great city.
Forget what I said about the Empress Hotel, that place is definitely not girl friendly. When I realized they were going to do that ridiculous 'additional room' comedy all the time with my girl(always the same girl I mean) I spoke to the manager and asked to stop bothering us. In a typical Asian fashion he said ok first just to raise the issue again a little bit later. I checked out and moved to Xuan Loc, right behind the New World. Also a three stars hotel, they only charge vnd 300,000 a night for a large, neat room. You won't pay anything bringing a girl with you but they will anyway pretend she is staying in a separate room.

The last two bits of this report. On my last day my girl was gone so I had to resort to mongering again. Went to the dark-glass bar on the corner behind the building that I think is the opera house downtown. Drinks for guy and girl are 20,000 and 50,000 respectively. You have to buy two drinks for the girl, also they ask usd 5o be paid before you leave !!! I did not wanted to pay in advance (and proved right, read on) but gave them $18 anyway and went to my hotel. Once in the room, the reception guy rings me to remind that the 'safety room' in case police checks is the one in front of the mine and is already opened. For some reason that tripped the girl and she wanted to leave, saying she's scared and want to go somewhere else. Of course I had enough of that bullshit and let her go. Then I walked back in the bar and faced a guy and a woman there (that spoke no english) asking my money back. It took a while but reluctantely they refunded me $10, well another case of minimized loss! In summary I'd say avoid the place.
Last thing, at AN was quite a slow night, the only stunning beauty was taken already and other not-so-gorgeous chicks demanded ridiculous amounts of money. At the last minute I hooked with this girl that I think is a resident celebrity, tall and slender, short reddish hair, you can't miss her if you go there, she will ass-dance with anyone and has this total slutty look. But she was fun to talk with (fukk-yuu and yuu maam-too) and energetic in sex. Fast and furious fuck, no real negotiation as she was happy with whatever (wans't much) I gave her, without even counting the money.
That was all for HCM'03, enjoy and stay safe.

Asia Travler
08-13-03, 00:59
After using WSG for field research throughout Asia for some time, thought I would provide an update following a recent one week trip to HCM.

Found the kissy bars on Hai Bai Trong Street to be extremely hit or miss Ė mostly miss. There are few diamonds to be found here, mostly road girls with a lot of mileage on them. Did find one diamond however in Cai Phuong bar between Hai Bai Trong and Dong Khoi Street near the Grand Hotel. Had a great body, slender and hot. First night took her to a ST hotel nearby - $50. The next day she came to my hotel in the late afternoon for a longer session Ė again $50. The second day she agreed to anal saying it was her first time, but was too tight! IMO, try the kissy bars, but donít spend much time there and be careful buying girls drinks as they go fast and furious.

Recent reports on AN are on target, this place does rock, but found the activity to be thin some nights during my trip. Timing is everything. One night I met up with two girls at Saigon Saigon bar at top of Caravelle Ė well worth the visit when you go. We went to AN and spent the rest of the night drinking, dancing and having a good time. They said they werenít working girls and couldnít get the cuter one home with me so perhaps. They were very familiar with the regulars at AN and introduced me to someone I met the following afternoon in my hotel.

I went to Catwalk at the New World and found a treasure trove. Definitely the finest eye candy in HCM and more if you can afford it. A must see for everyone even if you donít stay. US$9 per hour for any girl to sit with you. Drinks are reasonable Ė around US$2 to $4 each. They have KTV rooms to get a bit more comfortable but rooms are quickly booked. Girls wonít go out for less than $100. Problem in Vietnam to take them back to your hotel at night unless you rent them a room too. New World has cheap rooms just for this purpose if you are staying there so may make sense to some. You could also go to short time hotel, but personally if I am spending $100 bucks I want to have breakfast in the morning if you know what I mean. Did have one fox agree to come to my hotel the following day in the early evening and we were able to work things out.

Someone else mentioned Vietsingle.com. Has anyone had luck with this?

Johan007
08-14-03, 18:19
Hi guys,

normaly i don't post here,but i must say this:

Yesterdat (13 august) the police in Ho-chi-min city arrested 2 Dutch guys for having an SEX orgie...with 6 (!!) prostitutes in an appartment.

WOW....

I wonder how this is going to end??

Johan

canabiz
08-14-03, 19:17
Does anybody in Saigon have additional info about the arrest of the 2 foreigners with those pros, like what bars/clubs those pros normally hang or were they simply streetwalkers? Are the 2 guys in jail now? Any chance of seeing some *foottage*?

Be careful guys, don't do anything overboard (i.e. noise level, traffic frequency etc) and remember to play it safe.

Taodan
08-15-03, 10:01
Originally posted by canabiz
Does anybody in Saigon have additional info about the arrest of the 2 foreigners with those pros, like what bars/clubs those pros normally hang or were they simply streetwalkers? Are the 2 guys in jail now? Any chance of seeing some *foottage*?

Be careful guys, don't do anything overboard (i.e. noise level, traffic frequency etc) and remember to play it safe.

According to vnexpress.net, there were 6 girls age range from 17-24 and they were busted by police after one of the girls stormed out of the door, 214/18/4A Dien Bien Phu, Binh Thanh district, while she was still high on ecstasy. She was drugged. She called her boyfriend who in turn called police. Two foreigners Dutch nationality, Lam Yiu Fai and Van Denr Klis Ronald, were arrested with cameras, 17 XXX videos, and 16 nude pictures.

I don't think those girls are pros.

Cavechu
08-15-03, 16:10
Originally posted by taodan
According to vnexpress.net, there were 6 girls age range from 17-24 and they were busted by police after one of the girls stormed out of the door, 214/18/4A Dien Bien Phu, Binh Thanh district, while she was still high on ecstasy. She was drugged. She called her boyfriend who in turn called police. Two foreigners Dutch nationality, Lam Yiu Fai and Van Denr Klis Ronald, were arrested with cameras, 17 XXX videos, and 16 nude pictures.

I don't think those girls are pros.

do you have the url to that exact page? I try to look in the vnexpress.net but could not locate it. TIA

canabiz
08-16-03, 05:24
If you can read Vietnamese please go here for some detailed reporting...

http://tintucvietnam.com/news/Story.aspx?ID=11556

http://www.tintucvietnam.com/news/Story.aspx?ID=11445

The first article even has a picture of 1 girl who was busted for *hiding* the evidence so to speak. Btw, lots of amateur movies there!!

Wolf
08-19-03, 03:20
Hi every body.
I shall be in Ho Chi Min by this coming Friday.
I was wondering which hotel would be the best for both massage with happy ending and mongering around.
Used to go to the Majestic which was rather accetable for both 3 years ago. How about now on ? Will you recommend it again or Sofitel or Empress ? Or any other ?
I want to be able to get one of these nice massage, either in my room or in the hotel parlor (I don't care really as long as they provide the good service). I want also to be close from a club (hotel one ?) and eventually be able to bring back my sandwich to my own buffet.
Any information and recommendationm appreciated.
Cheers
Wolf

SinglePro
08-20-03, 01:57
Originally posted by Asia TravlerI went to Catwalk at the New World and found a treasure trove. Definitely the finest eye candy in HCM and more if you can afford it. A must see for everyone even if you donít stay. US$9 per hour for any girl to sit with you. Drinks are reasonable Ė around US$2 to $4 each.Are you serious? When I was there a year ago, they charged me $20/hour. That's the price the Madam told me also. I don't think they ripped me off or something. They must have dropped their prices or something.



Originally posted by Asia Travler
New World has cheap rooms just for this purpose if you are staying there so may make sense to some.Can you or anyone tell me what the cheapest price of one night stay at the New World hotel?

I'd also appreciate if anyone can suggest me which hotel offer reasonable price to stay for about 2 weeks. Please be as specific as you can in term of price/day and the name and address of the hotel.

Thank you in advance.

Julytien
08-20-03, 12:07
Does anyone know if Tam barber shop, offers anything more than a haircut, its on Nam Ky Khoi, I went inside cos it was pretty much dark screen doors, went in and ask for a haircut, needed one at the time, and got one, and had a massage upstairs as well, becouse my back was killing me, but thats all I got, nothing else was offered, was it because I was not a regular customer, there seems to be alot of young nubile girls, sitting around doing nothing much, think I've fallen in love with one of them, aaaawww, so I'll be back to see her, now and again, pretty pleased that they didnt rip me off, or maybe they did, anyway anyone else that has visited this pretty decent place, or plan on doing.

Let me know your experiences.

Thanks

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canabiz
08-22-03, 04:44
Folks, just a lil update on the story of those 2 Dutch guys who were busted for making amateur movies:

The guy of Chinese origin will be held in custody for the next 4 months pending further investigation. The cops searched his residence and found loads of porn stuff as well as sexual aids and drugs meant to get girls sexually aroused

If you can read Vietnamese, the full article is at

http://tintucvietnam.com/news/Story.aspx?ID=12587

Julytien
08-23-03, 04:49
Hi wolfman,

If you wanna meet up, please send me an email to luongcam@hotmail.com, so we can get screwed twice, instead of once.

Julytien
08-23-03, 05:18
I went back to Tams Barber Shop, and had another massage. Quite expensive this time. I think they charge on time spent, so far shes only managed to massage my ego not even a hand job, which I can do myself. I was hoping for a blowjob at least, telling me how handsome I am. Yeah right, the Toxic Avenger could go in there and be told he's the sexiest guy around. I've arranged a dinner date for tomorrow, so lets see how things go, I know I'm not giving too many details away, but I just dont want her to find out who I really am. No I aint trying to shaft my long lost sister.

Julytien
08-23-03, 05:25
Ok this is probably paranoid, but has anyone taken up the guys on the honda oms offer of a massage? Are they any good, how much should they be tipped afterwards? Just kidding. Can you trust these guys? I was hoping to cut out the middleman, does anyone know where they take you too, as it would be cheaper? If we could get there oursleves, or are we not allowed in without a local? I don't want to end up hitching a ride, with someguy who drive me down a dark alley, him and his mates beat the shit out of me, and rob me. I was approach by a guy who works or rather touts for business outside kim do hotel, and a cyclo rider, and they pulled out the same card.

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Julytien
08-23-03, 06:43
Never mind reading the articles guys, can anyone get their hands on these fabled films? We would worship you.

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Gundam
08-23-03, 09:26
Hi all,

Anyone know a web site for online traslations? I mean from VNmese to English and viceversa and not just single words but a sentences.

Thanx

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Teazian
08-24-03, 04:02
Originally posted by Julytien
Never mind reading the articles guys, can anyone get their hands on these fabled films? We would worship you.

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Hi Julytien,
Any good plan for HCM ?
I will be in HCM on the 9/2 to 9/4 .
I will be staying at the Renaissance Riverside

Julytien
08-24-03, 05:26
Dear Teazian

I havent been anywhere much, discos dont really suit me as I hate the noise there, wont call it music, the stuff in catwalk is good to listen too, until about 9.00pm, then they change the style of music, was thinking of going to le lai sauna, as they should have some hot and willing chicks in there, considering its under the same management, I'm going to ask a honda om guy to take me to a brothel soon, I dont think we can meet up as I will be leaving soon, if I am unable to get an extension on my plane ticket. If I can I'll let you know, you can get in touch with me at luongcam@hotmail.com.

Julytien
08-24-03, 07:15
I went back to tams, for my dinner date, which didn't go as planned as she was busy working. She came into my room and apologized. I didnt get my regular girl, but got one that was built like and looked like a Russian discuss thrower. She finish the massage and left the place. We got on her bike, and was planning to go to sofitel for 'sushi dinner'. She got a call on the way, but she didnt answer it. Got her to drop me off at HSBC, she must have called the caller then, because she left me high and dry. When I directed her to park the scooter, said she was going home. Oh well, guess I'll ask my Honda om guy to take me to a brothel and not a massage place. I will let you know what happens soon.

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Asiaphile
08-24-03, 12:37
Not to be nosey... but the Riverside is owned by the local Peoples Committee of the Communist Party. It's not guest friendly unless you have inside connections I would not be aware of. Why do so-called smart WSG travelers to VN continue to use these pathetic, unfriendly govt owned or joint venture jokes? Especially since there are many (very nice) private mini hotels including some larger 2-star in the $20 range. Is it ignorance of what's actually available on the ground or ingnorance or govt vs private ownership? I've traveled widely across VN for over a decade and always stay at privately owned hotels which are totally guest friendly or have a very reasonable policy. Finally, I do not need the mafia touts, cyclo dregs or hondo om drunks. No, I do not trust them in general. Knowledge is power and especially in the Socialist Republic of VN.

Julytien
08-26-03, 06:09
went to lei lai sauna last night, this place is not too bad at all. get undressed put my stuff in the locker, and open the door to be greeted by a hideous sight: a load of japanese men, getting out of the bath naked. quickly avert eyes to celing, shoes, side anywhere but not straight ahead, hope your not as unlucky as me. ask the attendant that i would like to have a massage, get shown to the waiting room, nice selection of newspapers and magazines, and television to watch too, although the sound is turned off, order a drink and sit back and relax, wait quite a long time, a little cute masseur comes into the waiting room, hope i'm her next customer. after a further wait, i am finally taken to one room, guess its best to go in the afternoon when its not so busy. its not the girl i wanted, maybe i should have ask the bar woman, when i saw the girl, the girl i get isnt that nice at all, but then again with these massage places, you hardly get to see the person, with your face lying down, for such a long time, she gives me a massage. and then its time to turn around, actually shes not as bad as first seems, well she does the usual stuff, then asks me if i would like a vietnamese special, but i have to tip me fifty bucks, shes not joking neither, get the price down to twenty bucks, which is still very expensive, for what i got a hj, and a fingering her pussy, she says no to sucking or getting on top, actually i decide to touch her, shorts first, then thought hell if shes letting me do this i may as well go in deeper. going in deeper was like peeling back an onion, she had a skirt, shorts and then underwear, she covers the light with a towel, dunno why, cos all she needs to do is use the dimmer switch, well i'm pretty certain, fs goes on in this place, you just need to find a willing girl, or up your 'tips' but for a few moments pleasure, i would rather chose a girl from catwalk, that way i know that i can have her for the whole night, not just a few hours of fun, so my next report will be either about catwalk or a brothel.

Teazian
08-26-03, 14:40
Originally posted by asiaphile
Not to be nosey... but the Riverside is owned by the local Peoples Committee of the Communist Party.
I'm not sure but there are 2 hotels next to each other. One is called Riverside, the other is called Renaissance Riverside which is managed by Marriott. So, which one belongs to the PC ?
How about the Sofitel ?

Wolf
08-27-03, 03:45
Hello to all.
Was in Ho Chi Min by the final of last week and was looking for a nice place to have decent and happy ending massage.
As nobody provided info despite my request I decided to return to the Majestic where I had been treated very well 3 years ago.
Went there by 10 a.m. when the massage starts. Right before a business lunch appointment. Been assigned to a nice lady but older then I remembered. About 30 at least but still very decent looking. Very slim with rather large breast for the size of her body. And rather tall (about 170cm).
She asked me to get undressed and I obliged, getting all naked and showing her my good nature. She immediatly took the towel and wrapped me in, smiling nevertheless with a rather naughty eye.
She put me on the table and started to provide a rather average massage. On the other room (they are only separated by partition) another guy was having his own and was already at the negociation phase. Not too discreet though and his girl told him to only whisper.
Mine was rather active on my legs as I was lay down on my tummy. She was insisting on my up thigh and placing her hands and fingers at strategic positions.
When she asked me to turn around she managed to retain the towel so that I get all naked and she could see the effect she was doing on me. She smiled at me and came to whisper to my ear that I was very beautiful. I was pleased. She continued to massage my shoulder and came back to my ear and said that I was very strong and smiled at me.
Then she placed herself strategically and looked at me with very understandable hand signs and said looking at my little friend (not so little at that time) : do you want to continue the massage. Of course I wanted. She place gently her hand on my dick and balls, squeezed gently and then released. Went to take a piece of paper and wrote the price : US$60. I let her understood I found it too salty. She then gave me the paper and the pen. I wrote US$20. She wrote US$50. I shown her that for this price it had to be a blow job. She said no. She even mentionned that her boss does not allow (???). I then wrote US$30 and she smiled as I guess it was the price she was expecting. I probably paid too much as I remember it was bout 20 or 25 last time.
Anyway.
She went on the duty rather happily and provided a very decent hand job, making me unloading high and far. Actually it went on the partition at my shoulder level. She laughed as she had to clean it. Her fellow massagers, apparently not used to hear laughters from colleagues, asked her from the other rooms and she apparently explained what happenned as they all laughted. She started to real massage again but I got another hard on and she was looking at it smiling. I took her hand and started to masturbate. She whispered US$30 and I signed no with my head and she smiled and tried to take her hand off which I did not allow. She then obliged and finished the job quite satisfactorily, allowing me to place my hand in her panty and then to take her nice breast from her blouse and to play with them. She refused to kiss.
She then cleaned me and we could listen to another guy next door coming high and loud. Everybody laughed.
She took me to the shower room and I washed and then she helped me to dress. I give her the money plus a US$10 tip. She thanked me and asked me to come back and request her or indicate her to my friends.
Her name is Miss Lynn.
When I went out I crossed with a couple going for massage. For sure, Mrs was not knowing what Mr was going for. But by the smile he gave me, he knew very well.... I had the same experience 3 years ago when I went to this hotel with my wife. On Sunday morning we wenmt to the pool and she decided for a massage. I decided to join.
And on the next room as she was, I had a cutie to provided me with a sarting of blow job and a very good hand job while making noises imitating massage so that my wife do not notice. That was perfect. So for the service than for the thrill and adrenaline.
At the exit door, I met with a splendid young viet who was waiting to be assigned to a massage. Definitely a 9 and much better loking than mine.
I surely wil have to come back soon.
Price was us$10 for the club. Not bad !

Cheers to all

Wolf

Asiaphile
08-27-03, 07:49
The Riverside (both versions!) are owned by the CORRUPT COMMIES as is of course Majestic, Sofitel, New World, Caravelle, and all the other stupid govt/andor joint venture 3-4-5 star jokes you guys w/o a clue continue to blindly fall into. Paying $20-$30-$50 for a stupid HJ is further evidence of absolute ignorance of the scene in VN! Paying $50-$100 or more for a hotel that's not guest friendly is ridiculous IMO. Again, there are dozens of hotels that are very nice tourist class (around 2 star @ about $20) that have virtually all the aminities of the overpriced govt/jv hotels and ARE GUEST FRIENDLY. Unfortunately, this mindless largesse makes you a danger to yourself but more importantly a danger to us who know the real score as you GROSSLY OVERPAY and continuosly ruin the fun for those who follow behind you.

Wolf
08-27-03, 08:14
Asiaphile,
You are certainly right in your comment and I know I am paying way too much even though it sounds cheap. But this is why this forum exists : to provide information on where to find and what to pay. And this is why I posted a request for this type of information.
Request to which I would have immediatly answered would this have been posted and requested for Japan, Shanghai or Korea where I have most of my connections and could lead anyone to better and cheaper fun.
But as I posted, no one answer.
So !....
Everywhere I go, I post comments and informations. Everytime I am requested to inform or orient, I do it. Thjis is why I joined the board.
And further to your comments, you should also take into account that some of us are travelling on business expenses. This does not mandatorily mean that we can spend what ever we want (actually my mongering spending comes from my own pocket) but it means it is difficult to explain both to our customers and mainly staff and bosses abroad that we are going for business getting down to what sounds like a second zone hotel in Ho Chi Min when all over the year we are welcomed in Sofitel, Hyatt, Marriott and the like. Understand that sometimes you cannot get off the road to obviously.
For the rest you are right once again. And I am eager to learn. Especially knowing that I am going to visit Vietnam regularly as from now.
All you advices and posts are warmly welcome.
Ready to help and teach also if you come to visit Shanghai, Tokyo or Seoul.
Best regards

Wolf

Teazian
08-27-03, 08:40
Originally posted by asiaphile
The Riverside (both versions!) are owned by the CORRUPT COMMIES as is of course Majestic, Sofitel, New World, Caravelle, and all the other stupid govt/andor joint venture 3-4-5 star jokes you guys w/o a clue continue to blindly fall into. Paying $20-$30-$50 for a stupid HJ is further evidence of absolute ignorance of the scene in VN! Paying $50-$100 or more for a hotel that's not guest friendly is ridiculous IMO. Again, there are dozens of hotels that are very nice tourist class (around 2 star @ about $20) that have virtually all the aminities of the overpriced govt/jv hotels and ARE GUEST FRIENDLY. Unfortunately, this mindless largesse makes you a danger to yourself but more importantly a danger to us who know the real score as you GROSSLY OVERPAY and continuosly ruin the fun for those who follow behind you.
Thanks for your feedback.
I'm travelling most of the times for business, and therefore I use to stay with the Marriott's hotels as we have a corporate rate and it's a company policy. But of course, whatever we do in the night is on our own expenses and we care for.
In the other hand, I believe that we are all professional people in this forum, or at least the majority of us, and not politicians. So commies or not commies, it doesn't matter much as long as our operations in Asia can bring revenue and profit to company or our own business.
I appreciate much comments from everyone but not insult.
But it would be another story when we travel for our own pleasure. And for pleasure only, I don't think that I would apreciate much going to HCM city. Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia are still my favorite places.

Asiaphile
08-27-03, 09:38
This forum is rather weak (unfortunately!) when it comes to consistent, reliable info on VN - IMO. The same could be said about Cambodia as well to name yet another heap of mostly mindless banter. I suppose on such a large site some useful, up to date info can be found on a few countries from time to time. In that regard, it seems much of the info on China here at wsgforum.com is relatively good (and I'm sure at a few others I rarely click on). The old site under "Atta" was full of FAR more thorough, credible, well written travel reports all across the planetary spectrum. This has nothing to do with "Jackson," just the general downward drift in quality for whatever reason, made up of too much flaming, jokesters, juveniles, amateurs, etc. Again, I don't mean to point fingers at anyone or hurl any unintended insults. I'm simply trying to present facts based on my personal observations after a decade of travel around VN and nearly a decade checking out this growing more silly by the day site. Probably the best VN nightlife info on the web if I haven't mentioned it before is at forums.************.com/vietnamfun/messages

M_Charlus
08-28-03, 01:35
Thanks for all the reports here. I will be in a position to contribute, because I will be in HCM in about a week. If anyone is there on the ground and wants to get together for a beer, email me: my handle at yahoo.

Later!

Dirty Pervert
08-28-03, 07:37
to anyone, whos into watching doing what women do naturally, can do so, at lucky plaza, with the minimart upstairs being closed, you can now sneak into the ladies toilets, i find that the middle cubicle is best for, watching them [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134), as their is a slight hole, and you can see everything going on, even manage to see one chick giving herself 'stress relief'

Julytien
08-28-03, 08:17
Originally posted by Teazian
Hi Julytien,
Any good plan for HCM? I will be in HCM on the 9/2 to 9/4. I will be staying at the Renaissance Riverside Yup will be able to meet up, got my ticket extension, but possibly not on the 9/2 as its national day, may have plans, send me an email, although I know alot more about the food scene, in Ho Chi Minh than the 'underground' sex scene.

Chikan
08-29-03, 19:59
Dirty Pervert,
Who would want to do that? Yuck!!!!!!!!!!!! "Dirty".......

Dirty Pervert
08-30-03, 05:20
Does anyone know if I can buy Rohypnol in Ho Chi Minh?

Cheers dudes.

EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions to capitalize proper names. To avoid future delays, please capitalize the first letters of proper names, including names of people, places, countries, cities, streets, nationalities, etc. in future reports. Thanks!

Dirty Pervert
08-30-03, 05:43
To Asiaphile,

If you think theres no info on this site, then do some posting. Instead of being anti-communist, us guys are here to examine the every country's government and infrastrucutre.

As for being overcharged, do you honestly think we could get away with paying local prices, when the women think we are all rich westerns?

dirty D.
09-01-03, 19:48
HELLO EVERYONE. I MEANT TO POST SOME INFO ON THE CAFE OMS A LONG TIME BACK BUT HAD FORGOTTEN ALL ABOUT IT. I AM STILL IN THE STATES BUT WILL BE RETURNING TO VIETNAM THIS WINTER FOR ANOTHER EXTENDED STAY. I CAN'T WAIT! WELL HERE IS SOME INFO ON THE CAFE OMS. CAFE OMS ARE LIKE BEER OMS EXCEPT THEY ARE IN SMALL CAFE BARS. THE ONES I HAVE FOUND ARE IN GO VAP DISTRICT. FIRST YOU SHOULD RENT A MOTOBIKE AND RIDE AROUND IN THE OUTER DISTRICTS LATE. AFTER 11PM. LOOK FOR CAFE BARS WITH A FEW GIRLS SITTING OUTSIDE. GO IN AND ENJOY SOME COFFEE. IF ITS A CAFE OM YOU WILL KNOW RIGHT AWAY. THE GIRLS WILL START ASKING IF YOU WANT MASSAGE IN THE BACK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THE GOING RATE IS 70,000 DONG. IT MAY BE MORE NOW BUT DON'T PAY MORE THAN A 100.000. THEY WILL TAKE YOU TO THE BACK WHERE THERE ARE USUALLY BLANKETS CLOTHES PINNED UP TO MAKE SMALL ROOMS. INSIDE THERE ARE USUALLY A CHAIR, A COUCH OR A SMALL MATTRESS. NOT VERY SOPHISTICATED. THE GIRLS WILL GIVE YOU A NICE BLOW JOB AND THEY TAKE IT IN THE MOUTH. IF YOU GO TO A GOOD PLACE YOU CAN ARRANGE OUT CALLS FOR A REASONABLE PRICE. (ABOUT 500.000 FOR ALL NIGHT SERVICE). NOTE:IF YOU CAN'T SPEAK VIETNAMESE DON'T TRY THIS. YOU DON'T NEED TO BE FLUENT BUT BASIC CONVERSATION SKILLS ARE A NESSESSITY TO EXPRESS EXACTY WHAT YOU REQUIRE AND EXPECT. THIS REDUCES YOUR CHANCES OR GETTING RIPPED OFF. I ARRANGED OUT CALL SERVICE THRU ONE OF THESE PLACES. IT WAS EXCELLENT. THEY HAD ME FOLLOW THEM TO A HOUSE WHERE ALL OF THE GIRLS ARE WAITING. I GAVE THE MAMASON THE MONEY. AND TOOK THE GIRL I CHOSE. SHE WAS FINE. PERFECT HEART SHAPE ASS, TIGHT PUSS, BUT SMALL TITS. SHE GAVE ME EXCELLENT SERVICE IN A SMALL HOTEL. WELL THATS ALL FOR NOW. I WILL BE REVIEWING THE FORUM MORE FEQUENTLY NOW SINCE I PLAN TO RETURN SOON. PLEASE KEEP UP THE POSTINGS ON NEW ESTABLISHMENTS THAT HAVE DECENT GIRLS. LASTLY, THIS IS FOR "ASIAPHILE" DON'T BE TOO HARD THE THE "COMMIES". I HAVE MET SOME OF THE VIPS IN THE PEOPLES COMMITTEE. THEY HAVE ARRANGED ALOT OF GIRLS FOR ME AT PRIVATE PARTIES. AND MOST OF THE TIME FOR FREE OR VERY LITTLE MONEY. ALL OF THE GIRLS WERE OUTSTANDING. SO YOU OUGHT TO LEAVE YOUR POLITICAL PREDUDICES AT HOME BEFORE COMMING TO VIETNAM. THEY SAY IF YOU HAVE MONEY YOU CAN DO ANYTHING IN VIETNAM THIS IS ONLY THE HALF TRUTH. YOU NEED THE PROPER CONNECTIONS AS WELL. THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT ITS NOT HARD TO NETWORK IN VIETNAM. WELL ENOUGH FOR NOW. C-YALL AGAIN SOON. AND GOOD LUCK!-DIRTY DOG.

Aardvark
09-01-03, 21:50
Can anyone tell me the best places for play for pay in Saigon? I will be visiting in November.

Taodan
09-02-03, 22:01
Originally posted by dirty D.
FIRST YOU SHOULD RENT A MOTOBIKE AND RIDE AROUND IN THE OUTER DISTRICTS LATE. AFTER 11PM.

Dirty Dog,
How frequently do you travel to Vietnam? Many times. Do you know how dangerous it is to ride motobike in Vietnam? Unless one has been to Vietnam many times and stay there for long period of time, renting motorbike and venturing after 11PM where you don't know your ways around are not recommended.

dirty D.
09-03-03, 03:04
Taodan,

Yes I agree with you. Most of my postings are meant for expats who have lived in Vietam for an extended time and are already familiar with the lawlessness of Vietnam roads. I go and stay in vietnam fequently, my wife is vietnamese and my children were born there. I have traveled in a motobike all over Vietnam and have yet ran into any proplems (knock on wood). Actually there was a time when somebody ripped out the IC on the motobike while I was inside the market. Other than that I've been lucky. I do excercise caution where ever I go and when ever I go.

Dirty Dog

Asiaphile
09-03-03, 15:01
CAFE OMS ARE LIKE BEER OMS EXCEPT THEY ARE IN SMALL CAFE BARS. THE ONES I HAVE FOUND ARE IN GO VAP DISTRICT. FIRST YOU SHOULD RENT A MOTOBIKE AND RIDE AROUND IN THE OUTER DISTRICTS LATE. AFTER 11PM. LOOK FOR CAFE BARS WITH A FEW GIRLS SITTING OUTSIDE. GO IN AND ENJOY SOME COFFEE. IF ITS A CAFE OM YOU WILL KNOW RIGHT AWAY. THE GIRLS WILL START ASKING IF YOU WANT MASSAGE IN THE BACK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THE GOING RATE IS 70,000 DONG. IT MAY BE MORE NOW BUT DON'T PAY MORE THAN A 100.000. (ABOUT 500.000 FOR ALL NIGHT SERVICE). NOTE:IF YOU CAN'T SPEAK VIETNAMESE DON'T TRY THIS. YOU DON'T NEED TO BE FLUENT BUT BASIC CONVERSATION SKILLS ARE A NESSESSITY TO EXPRESS EXACTY WHAT YOU REQUIRE AND EXPECT. THIS REDUCES YOUR CHANCES OR GETTING RIPPED OFF.

I think you mean 70000 to mamasan - right? I've paid 60000-100000 to mamasan at cafe bars (aka: cafe om, cafe den, cafe tam) in HCMC. I've paid as low as 30000 to mamasan at numerous upcountry cafe bars and then a tip to the girl of 50000-80000 depending on what was provided and the quality of the service. I've never taken one for outside service but 500000 ($33) seems a bit steep since the average factory girl in HCMC makes around $50 mo.

" DON'T BE TOO HARD THE THE "COMMIES". I HAVE MET SOME OF THE VIPS IN THE PEOPLES COMMITTEE. THEY HAVE ARRANGED ALOT OF GIRLS FOR ME AT PRIVATE PARTIES. AND MOST OF THE TIME FOR FREE OR VERY LITTLE MONEY. ALL OF THE GIRLS WERE OUTSTANDING. SO YOU OUGHT TO LEAVE YOUR POLITICAL PREDUDICES AT HOME BEFORE COMMING TO VIETNAM. THEY SAY IF YOU HAVE MONEY YOU CAN DO ANYTHING IN VIETNAM THIS IS ONLY THE HALF TRUTH. YOU NEED THE PROPER CONNECTIONS AS WELL. THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT ITS NOT HARD TO NETWORK IN VIETNAM.

I merely called them "corrupt" which EVERYONE in VN knows they are - even though they must whisper it. The criminal street mafia is in league with lots of powerful Peoples Committees all over which is the biggest problem the country has. I have been operating in and out of VN since the early 90's and I'm very well connected at all levels of the society. It's just when I see the abuses I make choices that I think can help the people who need the assistance - like staying in private owned "friendly" hotels instead of overpriced so-called luxury govt/joint venture crap. My hotel in HCMC is owned by a family with the elder patriarch a long time VC supporter from the war. After the American War the "liberators" from Ha Noi sabotaged his southern business interests and it took him decades to recover. Finally, he showed the dumb ass Ha Noians that he was more capable in private biz than their state run enterprises but he had to pay them big bribes, big taxes, etc. Finally, they allowed him to build, operate, and expand various factories and hotels. It's all privately held, very efficient and very profitable. He's a very rich as a result of his connections and tenacity - but he quietly despises the commies as much as me. In the back of his mind he knows they could sieze it all at any moment and because of the lack of rule of law he would have no recourse.

Opebo
09-03-03, 17:48
I haven't been to Vietnam in almost 18 months, and would never considering returning but for a friend's wedding this December. I was really dismayed by the difficulty and expense of persuing this hobby in Vietnam - and Saigon was worse than Hanoi! I love Vietnamese girls, and have had good luck getting them in Cambodia, but found Vietnam very difficult. I remember being charged 400,000 dong and even then the girl acted disappointed, not to mention they were much less young and good looking than the Viets in Cambodia.

But since I'll be in Saigon anyway in December - any advice on what is an appropriate price, and what are good venues at which to pick up girls?

dirty D.
09-04-03, 05:15
Asiaphile,

I hope you didn't take my address to you as being critical. I see where you are comming from. I myself have gotten very aggravated about the corruption. I have personally experieced it but so as everybody else. Sounds like you operate in vietnam somewhat similiar as I do. Odds are we probably have already met or at least seen each other. I have not been back in about a year now so things may have gotten more expensive. I hope not. In my oppinion the bar girls give lousy service. I have gotten the best results via arrangements and just befriending some girl and playing my cards right, usually but not always they put out. I just want remind everyone that its not neccessary to spend a lot to get what you want. When I first came to Vietnam I was spending way too much, then a local friend and a chinese businessman set me straight. Gotta go now. I look forward to returning. Hopefully I will learn new things and post them as I have done in the past. Good Luck to you all,

Dirty Dog

Asiaphile
09-04-03, 16:40
dirty D.
I'm not offended by anything you said - only trying to keep up with the best, well informed, current info on all parts of VN. Anything I said was just trying to get clarification on some small point. As an experienced VN expat you have valuable knowledge and with my similar experience over the past 12 years, here's a tip of the hat to the brotherhood. As I've made clear before, the info on this WSG is overall rather weak on VN and there are IMO a few (but unfortunately very few) better sources around. If you or others can read VNese, I recommend vnexpress.net which has good breaking news on crackdowns and some nighlife venue coverage besides the regular news. The newsletter at erotictravel.com over the years has revealed to me a lot of the secrets of VN P4P as the editor lives in SEA and is a regular visitor there with several expert western and VNese correspondents on the ground reporting. There are a couple of other msg boards but none specializing directly in VN. Elephantguide.com is sometimes worth a look - maybe others know of some additional decent ones I missed. I'll be in VN for a couple of months early next year so maybe we'll hoist a few bia hoi somewhere in HCMC if you're in town. All the best!

B Traveller
09-13-03, 20:00
A brief report based on several trips to Saigon. First, you cannot go wrong with U2 bar on Mac Thi Buoi street. First time I had a twosome upstairs with a couple of lovelies. Second time, last week, was with three of same lovlies. Yes, it's upstairs, don't bother with the mini hotel if you want short time (just so you know, upstairs is an attic!). Asking price was 500K dong per girl, paid 1M dong for three, plus one round of lady drinks. An orgy for less than 100 US, not bad!!! Don't let them try to charge for the upstairs 'accomodation'. BTW, although short time, the girls would have stayed as long as I could. As it happened, I could only do it twice (on both occasions). All the bia om (beer hug) bars in the area have gamers...I've found Saigon to be one of the easier places to get laid in Asia... Walk down nearly any street in District 1 and hookers will come out of the woodwork...Other areas to find beautiful young things are in front of the Renaissance and Caravelle hotels. A young lad in front of the Caravelle set me up a couple of times, first with one girl and the next night with a twosome. A bit pricey though (50US per girl), but worth it!!!. In any event, getting a piece in Saigon is like shooting fish in a barrel...