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Param Ahmad
09-17-12, 05:42
Never get married under any circumstances. It is always a losing proposition for men.It is foolish for any man to get married or have a child before reading these two books: (1) From Courtship to Courtroom, by Jed Abraham, and (2) Taken Into Custody By Stephen Baskerville. A book on the same topics that is basically correct even if a bit dramatic or hysterical in places is The Predatory Female By Lawrence Shannon, which is apparently available as a free download at thepiratebay (dot) se. All three of these books are available from amazon (dot) com or bn (dot) com. I've read all three of these books in their entirety and recommend all of them.
Love Seeker
09-22-12, 16:16
I am 54 year old divorced American and I want to live in a country with legalized prostitution and without socialized medicine. Any Ideas?
I can take early retirement and have about $5,500 to $6,000 a month pension. I like 18 year old women and 18 year old single malt scotch.
AColonizer
09-22-12, 16:47
I can't finish to read, maybe I read wrong, but marriage is NOT necessary and it is NOT natural. The real love never needs of agreements. The real family never needs of a marriages. When a girl wants a marriage, then it is sure there is an ambush after the first child, and then bye bye money, anywhere she comes from.
And I should be very careful with the expression "if you're a man, your woman will respect you and not try to run you over" because a man is considered a real man only if he is anthropologically much more poweful than the woman. Instead, if there is an apparent democracy, then this happens only because the woman allows that, because she has no better choices at that moment. That's her nature and nobody can change that!
1) Right never deny yourself beautiful things, including women. That's feminist propaganda to date ugly women, this is what American women tell you when they believe you don't measure up to their ever increasing standards.
2) Yes and No, if you import a woman easily influenced by things she sees and hears, then THIS MIGHT HAPPEN, but still highly unlikely. I call this sort of warning straight up fear mongering. In my experience this does not happen, Eastern European, Western European, Asian or South American, no big divorces, huge arguments and a few women make more than their husbands, but still come home to cook dinner.
3) No its not, men seldom take responsibility for divorce. Yes I know divorce comes from mostly women (70%) that said, its not typical for a man to be in-tune with his wife. So how would you know your relationship is taking a dump before you finally noticed? I have never had a bad relationship, in full control at all times. I am a man, if you're a man your woman will respect you and not try to run you over.
Finally, I want to have children. You do not have children outside of marriage, that is ass-backwards IMHO and no wonder we have so many problems in America. If you don't want children then MAYBE marriage is not for you but its hardly a loosing proposition, I see more White men using this talking point than Black men, hmmm.
Bango Cheito
09-22-12, 22:47
I can't finish to read, maybe I read wrong, but marriage is NOT necessary and it is NOT natural. The real love never needs of agreements. The real family never needs of a marriages. When a girl wants a marriage, then it is sure there is an ambush after the first child, and then bye bye money, anywhere she comes from.
And I should be very careful with the expression "if you're a man, your woman will respect you and not try to run you over" because a man is considered a real man only if he is anthropologically much more poweful than the woman. Instead, if there is an apparent democracy, then this happens only because the woman allows that, because she has no better choices at that moment. That's her nature and nobody can change that!AMBUSH AFTER THE FIRST CHILD! What a great phrase!
A book on the same topics that is basically correct even if a bit dramatic or hysterical in places is The Predatory Female By Lawrence ShannonI have read that book. The problem with the book is that it portrays women as predators (ie. Its title is very accurate). This is a mistake because it leads men to think that they have found the exception (despite the fact that the book says very clearly that all women are predatory).
All I can say is that, in my view, it is the north american concept of marriage that is the problem, not women. For thousands of years, marriage was a lifetime bond between a man and woman. Now it is a transfer of wealth from men to women.
There's a large number of possible destinations in the FSU.
1. For mongers who have sampled multiple cities (Kiev, Moscow, etc) is there a wide range across the market? Which city has the most consistent bang / buck? From reading reports and recommendations and guides, I have gotten the impression that :
A. There's action to be found everywhere you can name that has enough people. There's hotties and uggs everywhere. Go to a small town or city, and there is almost nothing.
Be. Costs in USD seem to be, surprisingly, fairly consistent on the aggregate. If you're a clueless foreigner and you go to the clip joints, you pay US / Europe prices (200-300 USD / hour+) and get lousy service. If you invest some time and cherry pick favorites, costs seem to come down to between 50-100 USD / hour. If you invest even more time, learn the language, sometimes you can get some for "free". (you know, because she wants you to claim her and pay tens of thousands of dollars. Like buying a car versus renting for a day. Car dealers give you a test drive)
See. It is very expensive to stay in the better places in the FSU. It costs just as much or more per day as it costs in the USA. This actually distorts the value proposition quite a lot : you can find "imported" FSU women and pay them $300 / hour for mediocre service in the USA. And for 4 hours, that'll cost you 800 or so. This sounds like a terrible deal : but if airfare, living expenses, and so on are factored in, it might not really be a better deal to go to the FSU even if the girls themselves are cheaper.
2. I have mongered in Argentina. That was cheap. I think I actually paid about 85 average per encounter, and I spent about 20-30 / day on living expenses. (2010)
However, the women were, well, not the same body type / face / etc.
Are there any exceptions to these conclusions?"sweet spots" that offer optimal value on a consistent basis? (meaning you can find a lot of quality women to choose from, with reasonable pricing)
My mongering budget for the next 12 months is about 10k. I'd like to get my money's worth, LOL.
Master Yoda
12-27-12, 06:24
In Lebanon, most of the beautiful girls are Christian, so there is no "infidel" element involved.
In Syria, first it is in a civil war right now, plus, I read reports that they would be more difficult because of the "infidel" element. However, YMMV.
In Morocco, things are a lot more open, as they have more of a Berber culture than the Arab one. You will have an advantage being a foreigner, but I am not sure you'll find virgins that easily in touristy sports, just semi-pros out to have fun. In all cases, you need to at least speak decent french, otherwise you will be lost.
For the deflowering virgins fantasy, I suggest you go to Lima, Peru. If you have a membership here with PM capability, I suggest you PM David_33 and check out his Lima forum.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?757-Peru-David-33-s-Forum
He has a great network of regular girls in Lima, Peru, and has access to virgins looking to be deflowered in exchange of some money to fund their studies etc.
He does it to help out the members here, so he receives no compensation on this. All of it goes to the girl (sometimes they bring their moms too for a threesome and to assist on the deflowering, so some money might go to momma LOL).Thanks so mcuh for the prompt reply. I couldn't reply because I have been quite busy lately.
So basically Syria and Lebanon have a good Christian element with in the population? This is good for me because I always have a passion for traveling to the middle east (probably not syria because of all the craziness going there right now.
So how would these Christian Lebanese women respond to dating a non-Arab Black man. I have done alot of research on the subject looking for various articles and blogs but I can't find anything that relates to inter-racial dating.
I have heard that it can be quite bad for darker skinned men in the Arab world but. When I was in Dubai I didn't seem much interaction between emiratis and foreigners. Mostly it seems to revolve around business.
Party Pooper
02-06-13, 11:41
Guys,
Just a quick question. In what country in south-america (including central america and the carribean) do girls have the best LTR mentality? Where are the women the most 'monogamous'?
Are there countries in SA america where women have the loving and caring attitude that you see for example in the asian monger destinations?
Bango Cheito
02-07-13, 05:55
guys,
just a quick question. in what country in south-america (including central america and the carribean) do girls have the best ltr mentality? where are the women the most 'monogamous'?
are there countries in sa america where women have the loving and caring attitude that you see for example in the asian monger destinations?i have yet to see any evidence that a truly monogamous human being exists.
if you are looking for that sort of thing, i wouldn't even know where in the universe to start, but avoid colombia! there's not even really much of an illusion of "settling down" here.
I am 54 year old divorced American and I want to live in a country with legalized prostitution and without socialized medicine. Any Ideas?
I can take early retirement and have about $5, 500 to $6, 000 a month pension. I like 18 year old women and 18 year old single malt scotch.If you take the legalized prostitution requirement out, Malaysia has an excellent government program to attract foreign retirees.
http://www.mm2h.gov.my/
No socialized medicine, decent healthcare in Kuala Lumpur. Even better medical care access if you live close to Singapore. Prostitution isn't legal, but is widely tolerated. Excellent weather, excellent food, fantastic access to amazing tourist destinations very cheaply. Lots of good beaches and golf courses depending in interests and where you settle.
And you can live like a king there in a nice home with maid, cook, gardener, driver for $2. 5-3k USD including reasonable food and non-mongering entertainment budget. That's the whole point of the government program. You bring in hard currency and create employment. Most expats retiring there are Brits and Aussies.
Downsides? It's a Muslim country if that concerns you, but not at all extremist. And it's a long flight back to USA if that's "home."
Alternately, the Philippines also has decent programs and is cheap. But, it's the Philippines with all the dysfunction that brings. But Pinays are very loving partners. Unfortunately you have to deal with their families and pressures to have kids (if they are young).
http://www.pra.gov.ph/main/srrv_program
Party Pooper
02-08-13, 09:48
I have yet to see any evidence that a truly monogamous human being exists.
If you are looking for that sort of thing, I wouldn't even know where in the universe to start, but avoid Colombia! There's not even really much of an ILLUSION of "settling down" here.It's not that I'm looking for the ultimate monogamous type of women. The thing is I really like latinas, but I know a few brazilians girls (and men) here in Europe and they are the worst cheaters of them all. Most of them are married, have childeren, but would fuck anything in sight if it's a little bit attractive.
Bango Cheito
02-10-13, 00:08
it's not that i'm looking for the ultimate monogamous type of women. the thing is i really like latinas, but i know a few brazilians girls (and men) here in europe and they are the worst cheaters of them all. most of them are married, have childeren, but would fuck anything in sight if it's a little bit attractive.as long as you can get your head around the concept that they are not going to fuck you and only you the rest if their lives, you're golden my friend.
DJ FourMoney
02-18-13, 00:36
The fear mongering around monogamy is really getting on my nerves and insults my intelligence. Help is not offered here but opinion, I go elsewhere for answers, all you get here is regurgitate MRA nonsense.
It very plain to me that many men in Western culture are having a difficult time adjusting to a world in which having a dick and a paycheck is no longer the only requirements to have a long term relationship.
What we have here is anti-relationship types or those interested in open-relationships without saying that's what they want.
Cracks about socialized medicine comes out of nowhere, yet want legalized prostitution make me laugh.
When the time comes I will share what I have learned and its 180 of the general rhetoric around here.
DJ FourMoney
02-18-13, 00:40
I have yet to see any evidence that a truly monogamous human being exists.
If you are looking for that sort of thing, I wouldn't even know where in the universe to start, but avoid Colombia! There's not even really much of an ILLUSION of "settling down" here.Another Holiday Inn Express outing?
Avoid Colombia huh?
So when a married man goes down to Colombia to connect with a woman he met on marriage agency site, gets her pregnant. When she finds out he's married in America with children, he lied about, doesn't help her with the child and goes back to the US never to be seen again, no recourse.
I'm glad you support this sort of behavior.
Bango Cheito
02-20-13, 03:22
Oh, I'm coming out and saying it. I think monogamous relationships are a crock, and vastly prefer open relationships. I've been on record dozens of times on this forum alone as saying the same thing.
And I will say this, the chances of a gringo coming here to Colombia and stringing a Colombian woman along like that are pretty fucking slim. People here are a lot smarter and more RUTHLESS than they are given credit for.
And Colombia is as much a part of the West as is anywhere else in the Americas or Europe....
Chocha Monger
02-21-13, 02:34
I can't finish to read, maybe I read wrong, but marriage is NOT necessary and it is NOT natural. The real love never needs of agreements. The real family never needs of a marriages. When a girl wants a marriage, then it is sure there is an ambush after the first child, and then bye bye money, anywhere she comes from.
And I should be very careful with the expression "if you're a man, your woman will respect you and not try to run you over" because a man is considered a real man only if he is anthropologically much more poweful than the woman. Instead, if there is an apparent democracy, then this happens only because the woman allows that, because she has no better choices at that moment. That's her nature and nobody can change that!It seems like you guys really infuriated the DJ4$ with your Men's Rights Advocacy! As far as I know, a really big paycheck, trust fund or other form of wealth is still the most important determining factor as to whether or not a man gets to have a chance with beautiful women in the West. A common statement women make when looking for a chump is, 'I want a man who is financially secure. ' A handsome face, washboard abs, and an interesting personality are all icing on the cake but, make no mistake, money comes first. Face it, to a woman, a man in poverty stinks more than a freshly road killed skunk! Of course, there are some women like the one in the photo who do not care about minor details like that.
It seems like you guys really infuriated the DJ4$ with your Men's Rights Advocacy! As far as I know, a really big paycheck, trust fund or other form of wealth is still the most important determining factor as to whether or not a man gets to have a chance with beautiful women in the West. A common statement women make when looking for a chump is, 'I want a man who is financially secure. ' A handsome face, washboard abs, and an interesting personality are all icing on the cake but, make no mistake, money comes first. Face it, to a woman, a man in poverty stinks more than a freshly road killed skunk! Of course, there are some women like the one in the photo who do not care about minor details like that.Can you imagine if that skinny guy was eating her pussy and she is achieving an orgasm and she has a scissor lock around his neck. With those big thighs, she will smother him and snap his neck in half as she is screaming in joy. Not a pretty way to die.
DJ FourMoney
03-12-13, 06:14
It seems like you guys really infuriated the DJ4$ with your Men's Rights Advocacy! As far as I know, a really big paycheck, trust fund or other form of wealth is still the most important determining factor as to whether or not a man gets to have a chance with beautiful women in the West. A common statement women make when looking for a chump is, 'I want a man who is financially secure. ' A handsome face, washboard abs, and an interesting personality are all icing on the cake but, make no mistake, money comes first. Face it, to a woman, a man in poverty stinks more than a freshly road killed skunk! Of course, there are some women like the one in the photo who do not care about minor details like that.I didn't say Men's Rights wasn't important. It needs to stop wrapping itself around Feminism like a snake because it will not crush it or stop it. You have to make sure it stays on course = Equality and in case you haven't been paying attention there is a backlash against the more extreme views held by people like Eve Ensler by other Feminist like Hanna Rosin who don't like those attacks.
Big checks are not needed. White men think they need big checks because they lack the social skills and try to make up for it. Not to make this about race but those are the facts and my experience when pointing my White male friends in the right direction when it came to women interested in them.
I know all sorts of average income Brothers with attractive women, including relatives punching your line of thinking full of holes. The one common theme is that none of those men are married to Black women. They are married to White women from various countries like the UK, Russia, Ukraine, Argentina and Brazil. No mention of Colombia once.
Oh, I'm coming out and saying it. I think monogamous relationships are a crock, and vastly prefer open relationships. I've been on record dozens of times on this forum alone as saying the same thing.
And I will say this, the chances of a gringo coming here to Colombia and stringing a Colombian woman along like that are pretty fucking slim. People here are a lot smarter and more RUTHLESS than they are given credit for.
And Colombia is as much a part of the West as is anywhere else in the Americas or Europe.So you think they are a cock, fine. What do you have to show for your anti-monogamous views? Are your going to give your assets away or you going to blow it all between now and when you die?
Its not slim, that incident actually HAPPEN and I've heard of similar stories, you must be dealing with Middle Class and Upper Middle Class Colombian women which all my expat contacts say are the WORST.
They found their wives and LTR's off the tourist trail. For a LTR forum there is quite a bit of anti-LTR talk, what axe do you have to grind?
Master Yoda
03-14-13, 03:23
I didn't say Men's Rights wasn't important. It needs to stop wrapping itself around Feminism like a snake because it will not crush it or stop it. You have to make sure it stays on course = Equality and in case you haven't been paying attention there is a backlash against the more extreme views held by people like Eve Ensler by other Feminist like Hanna Rosin who don't like those attacks.
]Big checks are not needed. White men think they need big checks because they lack the social skills and try to make up for it. Not to make this about race but those are the facts and my experience when pointing my White male friends in the right direction when it came to women interested in them.
I know all sorts of average income Brothers with attractive women, including relatives punching your line of thinking full of holes. The one common theme is that none of those men are married to Black women. They are married to White women from various countries like the UK, Russia, Ukraine, Argentina and Brazil. No mention of Colombia once.
So you think they are a cock, fine. What do you have to show for your anti-monogamous views? Are your going to give your assets away or you going to blow it all between now and when you die?
Its not slim, that incident actually HAPPEN and I've heard of similar stories, you must be dealing with Middle Class and Upper Middle Class Colombian women which all my expat contacts say are the WORST.
They found their wives and LTR's off the tourist trail. For a LTR forum there is quite a bit of anti-LTR talk, what axe do you have to grind?Sorry. But I can't Cosign this.
You sound like one of those guys that thinks game trumps money but I got news for you. Money is the most important aspect in picking hot women. The man with the most money gets the hottest women.
Sure you could probably bang a chick short term. But the man with the $ is going to win out in the end.
Bango Cheito
03-17-13, 06:06
I have nothing to show for my anti-monogamous views but AN EXTREMELY FUCKING HAPPY EXISTENCE.
DJ FourMoney
05-13-13, 08:41
Sorry. But I can't Cosign this.
You sound like one of those guys that thinks game trumps money but I got news for you. Money is the most important aspect in picking hot women. The man with the most money gets the hottest women.
Sure you could probably bang a chick short term. But the man with the $ is going to win out in the end.Not always and for sure not outside of 1st world countries. What my friends have done is something I should have done years ago. These men are far from "rich" by American standards.
One works for Rand-McNally, went to Russia to get his bride and since have been back and forth to Russia together. She's not ugly and neither is he, he didn't even need any "game" to get her, found her on a IR forum I used to frequent. My ex-boss recently married his Flip wife from Cebu (K1). Service Sector management jobs don't pay much more than $35-40K a year and my ex-boss has custody of his two sons from his cheating ex-wife (caught red-handed).
In fact, I don't know one man married to an attractive woman who is loaded.
Money is not required to find reasonable women, you've been using the wrong bait if you believe you need to cash big checks to get nice looking women who actually like you (they actually like your money more).
DJ FourMoney
05-13-13, 08:48
I have nothing to show for my anti-monogamous views but AN EXTREMELY FUCKING HAPPY EXISTENCE.Prove it! This post is worthless without pictures and I have YET to see dude from the States with an attractive Colombian women, by Colombian standards (look at the TV.). If you like dark skinned women and women from the poor areas of town, there's plenty to choose from.
Nobody is forcing you to be involved long term with women. But you can't tell others its wack / sucks because that is not always true and because YOU failed doesn't make it a fact others will fail.
Besides what men do in America are problematic on several levels. All the pussy, no sacrifice. Living in Machismo Latin America doesn't mean your suited for such a lifestyle. If you can bag the same women the locals can, then you might be doing okay.
If your conquest are hot, let's see them. You can PM me, I don't share with others.
Bango Cheito
05-18-13, 20:36
Prove it! This post is worthless without pictures and I have YET to see dude from the States with an attractive Colombian women, by Colombian standards (look at the TV.). If you like dark skinned women and women from the poor areas of town, there's plenty to choose from.
Nobody is forcing you to be involved long term with women. But you can't tell others its wack / sucks because that is not always true and because YOU failed doesn't make it a fact others will fail.
Besides what men do in America are problematic on several levels. All the pussy, no sacrifice. Living in Machismo Latin America doesn't mean your suited for such a lifestyle. If you can bag the same women the locals can, then you might be doing okay.
If your conquest are hot, let's see them. You can PM me, I don't share with others.I don't share pix on this forum even by PM and I really don't care whether you think the girls I have been with are sexy or not. What matters is that they're sexy TO ME.
I don't even judge women by physical appearance anymore. I mainly care about how good they are in bed!
DJ FourMoney
05-18-13, 21:07
I don't share pix on this forum even by PM and I really don't care whether you think the girls I have been with are sexy or not. What matters is that they're sexy TO ME.
I don't even judge women by physical appearance anymore. I mainly care about how good they are in bed!What sort of logic is that? You might not care how they look cause all you want to do is fuck. If that's the case how come you didn't stay in America? Plenty of low self-esteem White BBW's and dark-skinned Black women that are glad to give it up for free.
I judge the entire package. If you're going to be staring at the same person for 20-30-40 years, when you both look like raisins it doesn't matter but until then looks do matter and is calculated in the overall package.
I don't attract stupid women, so that part is covered.
We can agree to disagree I suppose but I do find some of your self-deprecation in some post troubling but then again that's is a meme around here anyway isn't it?
A man never really worries about the future until he gets a wife. A woman always worries about the future until she gets a husband.
Its no coincidence that when you meet a woman (hot or otherwise) one of the first five questions she will ask is,"what kind of work do you do?" (or some variant of). IMHO, I definitely think that money matters. Lets be real, we do roll out our toys to impress the ladies. The ones without means we want to show, look at the life you could have if you rolled with me. The ladies with means you're showing, look I'm no bum I can get on your level too.
BrasilSoccer0
06-02-13, 07:34
If you want blessed marriage with a foreign beautiful unspoiled by American pop culture girl, KEEP her in her country and move in with her.
If you say you can't or you prefer your country or any other lame excuse including finding a well paying job, guess what; You are already spoiled by the same enfectious brainwashing culture you complained about initially and you really deserve that spoiled American Big, rough, selfish, ignorant, complaining, low self esteemed, masculine. Etc woman.
DJ FourMoney
06-12-13, 10:50
If you want blessed marriage with a foreign beautiful unspoiled by American pop culture girl, KEEP her in her country and move in with her.
If you say you can't or you prefer your country or any other lame excuse including finding a well paying job, guess what; You are already spoiled by the same infectious brainwashing culture you complained about initially and you really deserve that spoiled American Big, rough, selfish, ignorant, complaining, low self esteemed, masculine. Etc woman.I agree and that's why I am finally going to Brazil, the land of plenty. America is on the slow train to oblivion and its time to get out if your concerned about the ever encroaching security / police state we find ourselves in. When both parties agree on anything that's generally bad news for you. There's a 2-3% chance I will go to Central America instead but I like Brazilian women too much and find other countries lacking overall.
So the penalty is the narrowing exchange rate. 19% inflation since 2007 banking crisis, items we take for granted in the states are either not available or very expensive and having to learn Portuguese.
Small price to pay.
Right now I am looking to pick a retirement place.
One major factor is the availability and quality of a woman to share my retirement.
I like Asian women but fear that the culture shock between a North American / Western culture and an Asian one will be too much to take for long term. A few months or a year is OK but not forever.
My possible locations are Panama, Belize or Uruguay.
Any comments about the quality and availability of nice younger (less than 40 preferable less than 30) for a long term relationship would be appreciated.
Thanks and Happy Humping.
KG
Member #4351
11-22-13, 14:58
How in the world did you ever end up with Panama, Belize or Uruguay on your short list? Buy a book on Philippine culture and take a trip there. Plenty of good advice on the Philippine threads here. I live in Latin America and fly all the way there twice a year. I must have a good reason. If for some reason you are convinced that latin america is the place for you, I suggest you scrub those three countries and look elsewhere. Belize was the last stop for the slave ships and all the least attractive dregs that no one else wanted ended up there. Not the best looking population in the Caribbean or Central America.
How in the world did you ever end up with Panama, Belize or Uruguay on your short list? Buy a book on Philippine culture and take a trip there. .These 3 places always show up on top retirement places in the Americas.
I like Asian women, they are raised to satisfy their man however they are also raised to satisfy their man so that their man will support their families.
Have an Indonesian girlfriend who I just spent several months with. Had a hard time adjusting to the Asian culture on a lot of levels after the newness wore off a bit. The first several weeks were great.
Basically I had a serious issue with the expectation that I would be the main support for her family. She is one of 8 children and when we went to Jakarta for a few days to visit them all I ended up fully funding everything from amusement park visits to meals out.
I was even asked for money to pay for the gas to take everyone to the parks where I was expected to pay for entrance.
I was asked for money for cell phone credit for their kids.
I was asked for money so that they could go on vacation.
I was asked for money so that they could make house repairs.
I was asked for money for medical bills. (That one I helped with.)
Do not mind paying more than my share as what it cost me means a lot less to me than it did to them but it was the EXPECTATION that I would pay and the total lack of any show of real gratitude or acknowledgement that really pissed me off. That and the fact that it was every time. Even when we went to the low cost local restaurants where they would eat on their own, I was expected to pay for everyone and never an offer that someone else would pay.
Also when I read through the Philippine threads the common topic is how the women there are all drama queens. Never spend much time there but have worked and known many Philippine women and the tendency is there for them to become drama queens.
KG
Member #4351
11-25-13, 02:29
These 3 places always show up on top retirement places in the Americas.I doubt that availability of girls was one of the criteria used in that evaluation.
So you expect to find a girl who will be with you for your good looks, charming personality and "generosity"? Good luck finding anyone anywhere.
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So you expect to find a girl who will be with you for your good looks, charming personality and "generosity"? Good luck finding anyone anywhere.So far works out quite well for me anywhere.
Tell me, Still using your personality as your major means of birth control?
Member #4351
11-26-13, 17:23
Tell me, Still using your personality as your major means of birth control?No, that didn't work so I got a vasectomy.
I suggest you go and try to live in Uruguay or Panama with your cheap charlie attitude; making sure that not a cent goes to the girl's family, and see how it works out. Let us know.
No, that didn't work so I got a vasectomy.
I suggest you go and try to live in Uruguay or Panama with your cheap charlie attitude; making sure that not a cent goes to the girl's family, and see how it works out. Let us know.Read what I posted.
I don't mind paying more than my share as I realize that money means less to me than it does to them. This is especially true for important things like health and education of the kids.
What I objected to was their attitude that I was their walking ATM machine and the complete lack of any show of appreciation for what I did for them.
Member #4351
11-27-13, 23:34
That was with an Indonesian. I have had various Filipina GFs. My impression has always been that a couple of hundred dollars a month to the parents for the Utang Na Lub would pretty much take care of family obligations. There is no social security in the Philippines, so this is the only hope for many parents. Ergo the positive attitude towards older foreigners marrying their daughters (compared by one forum poster to the family's fattened pigs). I have met dozens of really nice Filipinas who would do anything to marry a foreigner. The ones from the Provinces are probably the most faithful. Anyway, this has been discussed a great deal on the Philippine threads. Its also a lot cheaper living there than in the other countries you mentioned. And finally, English is almost universally spoken. IMHO you should consider taking a short trip to Cebu and see how things go.
Read what I posted.
I don't mind paying more than my share as I realize that money means less to me than it does to them. This is especially true for important things like health and education of the kids.
What I objected to was their attitude that I was their walking ATM machine and the complete lack of any show of appreciation for what I did for them.
Any opinions on best EU or FSU countries for LTR? Not looking for the 'feminist' countries, more like the woman will do what you tell her to do every day!
I have been doing some research on the countries and ethnicities of South East Asia in order to work out which country to choose for my next mongering stint. I found these three websites, although quirky and not necessarily dedicated to p4p, informative:
http://asialove.org/southeastasia.htm
http://naughtynomad.com/2010/06/27/top-10-countries-for-girls-in-s-e-asia/
http://www.city-data.com/forum/asia/1294232-average-southeast-asian-country-do-you-3.html
Any opinions on best EU or FSU countries for LTR? Not looking for the 'feminist' countries, more like the woman will do what you tell her to do every day!Have you ever been to Europe for an extended period?
In former 'Communist Europe', men and women always had equal share of the burden of labor. So women had the same chances for education and salaries as men. Of course traditional roles (e. G. Doing the house chores, education) exist.
In Western Europe girl do better in high school and university than men. Just traditional roles persist in choosing careers (e. G. You will find more men doing car mechanics and ladies as hair dressers).
I do not see any 'feminst' country, but more or less equal rights and various role plays. In countries with kindergarden and school open all day (e. G. France, Scandinavian countries) , women have better chances for a career.
More likely most European women will tell you, what to do every day!
Have you ever been to Europe for an extended period?I am an expat living in Europe! Western Europe is hopeless.
In former 'Communist Europe', men and women always had equal share of the burden of labor. So women had the same chances for education and salaries as men. Of course traditional roles (e. G. Doing the house chores, education) exist.
In Western Europe girl do better in high school and university than men. Just traditional roles persist in choosing careers (e. G. You will find more men doing car mechanics and ladies as hair dressers).
I do not see any 'feminst' country, but more or less equal rights and various role plays. In countries with kindergarden and school open all day (e. G. France, Scandinavian countries) , women have better chances for a career.
More likely most European women will tell you, what to do every day!Equal rights and various role plays is the definition of feminism. I want women in 'traditional' roles. I. E. More of a machismo society like certain places in latin america.
I have never been East. Was hoping it was more typical of 3rd world countries over there. Wanted to see where everyone thought the best LTR in the FSU was. They can't all be a pain in the ass!
Guess its been discussed Before if so hit me up with a link please.
Anywaysmy questions.
What is the best Place for sex with hot Girls in terms of price, access, safety etc?
South east asia like Thailand, Philly and indonesia or places like Colombia, Argentina and Peru?
Anyone with some knowledge?
Member #4351
02-11-14, 17:39
South East Asia
South East AsiaI'd agree with that, however there are many reports about Thai girls abusing this.
Anyone noticing that warmer climates have women with smaller tits?
I spend a lot of time in Asia. And I don't want to move to cold places like Mongolia, Russia, or Poland.
I suppose Brazil is an exception, maybe there are others.
Member #4351
02-16-14, 16:52
I suppose Brazil is an exception, maybe there are others.I think Brazil is better known for its booties than for its boobs. Warm climate with boobs = the D. R. IMHO.
DJ FourMoney
04-13-14, 23:56
No, that didn't work so I got a vasectomy.
I suggest you go and try to live in Uruguay or Panama with your cheap charlie attitude; making sure that not a cent goes to the girl's family, and see how it works out. Let us know.I agree I can't stand guys like this. He's marrying a woman from a developing country. He has two choices, marry a middle class or upper class girl in one of these countries or STFU about being looked at as the provider / husband because he is a Westerner and has the deepest pockets, so what does he expect?
I have been a few times to Bangkok and like the services offered and prices. PSE experience including anal from the soi 24/26 soapies, fun of hanging out at gogos, finding FLs at some of the discos and having an easy choice of overnighters and busty women (even if they are fake, generally well done) at a very good price.
I have been wanting to try a different place this time, especially since I would like to try different nationalities. Which of these places would be best for a maiden trip keeping in mind the above needs?
I have been a few times to Bangkok and like the services offered and prices. PSE experience including anal from the soi 24/26 soapies, fun of hanging out at gogos, finding FLs at some of the discos and having an easy choice of overnighters and busty women (even if they are fake, generally well done) at a very good price.
I have been wanting to try a different place this time, especially since I would like to try different nationalities. Which of these places would be best for a maiden trip keeping in mind the above needs?Hi Sam,
Wanting an answer to to similar queistion to urs.
Want to go Thailand! But the wifey will wonder why I want to go to Thailand (she knows)(attraction to me is the cost / choice) and I don't like chasing. India sounds good but I think everybody is out to shaft you there. What other countrys are good!! At resonable costs.
What sort of money do you pay in Thailand for couple of pops!! (USD).
Thanks guys, any info is helpfull.
Guess its been discussed Before if so hit me up with a link please.
Anywaysmy questions.
What is the best Place for sex with hot Girls in terms of price, access, safety etc?
South east asia like Thailand, Philly and indonesia or places like Colombia, Argentina and Peru?
Anyone with some knowledge?My personal experiences:
Price
1. Angeles City (PH).
2. Pataya (TH).
3. Bali (I'd).
4. Ho Chi Minh City (VN).
5. Rio De Janeiro (BR).
6. Buenos Aires (AR).
7. Santiago de Chile.
8. Singapore (SG).
9. Tokyo.
10. Seoul.
Access
1. Angeles City (PH).
2. Pataya (TH).
3. Rio De Janeiro (BR).
4. Tokyo (JP).
5. Bali (I'd).
6. Singapore (SG).
7. Buenos Aires (AR).
8. Santiago de Chile (CL).
9. Ho Chi Minh City (VN).
10. Seoul (KR).
Safety
In this one there are many aspect to it. So I will break it into two categories. A. Area safety and be. Honest Girls (not robbing you etc).
A. Area safety.
1. Singapore (SG).
2. Tokyo (JP).
3. Seoul (KR).
4. Santiago de Chile (CL).
5. Angeles City (PH).
6. Ho Chi Minh City (VN).
7. Bali (I'd).
8. Buenos Aires (AR).
9. Pataya (TH).
10. Rio De Janeiro (BR).
B. Honest Girls (not robbing you etc).
1. Angeles City (PH).
2. Tokyo (JP).
3. Singapore (SG).
4. Seoul (KR).
5. Santiago de Chile (CL).
6. Buenos Aires (AR).
7. Rio De Janeiro (BR).
8. Ho Chi Minh City (VN).
9. Bali (I'd).
10. Pataya (TH).
Will be visiting Central America soon, so I can add more cities into the report.
Ramon Pillar
07-16-14, 19:00
Anyone noticing that warmer climates have women with smaller tits?
I spend a lot of time in Asia. And I don't want to move to cold places like Mongolia, Russia, or Poland.
I suppose Brazil is an exception, maybe there are others.Big mistake. Have you been travelling in Africa very hot and big tits!
I hope this question has't already been done to death: what countries are good to visit where people speak English?
I've been to Brazil (a long time ago) and Philippines (recently). I really like the Latina women, but I can't imagine staying in Brazil so long again as my Portuguese is weak.
What countries have the most extramarital sex going on?
Of course, this question could be addressed various ways, for example, (1) foreign married guys dating local women, (2) local married guys dating local women, (3) single foreign guys dating married women, etc, etc.
Based on my experience there, I nominate China, for all 3 points mentioned above.
I say China for a variety of reasons: (a) it's ingrained in the culture than men of means will sleep around, (b) many passionless marriages where they feel obligated to stay together, (c) availability of p4p (well, more in the pre-crackdown days, say, before 2008), and (d) non-pros being open to being with married men, either for compensation / support / gifts, or in some cases, they just want to experience a more mature man, or they just have physical needs and don't want to deal with a real boyfriend. Also, I've always had the impression that there's just more sex going on in China, like their desire hasn't yet been killed by "modern" ways of thinking (feminism, etc). For example, I always seem to hear more sex sounds while staying at hotels in China than in any other country. And I don't think it's just a difference of acoustics! Also the fact that I've had a lot of action there myself, including with a few married women, LOL.
My POV anyway (although my experience is mainly pre-2010). YMMV.
Errol Flynn
10-13-14, 08:04
I hope this question has't already been done to death: what countries are good to visit where people speak English?
I've been to Brazil (a long time ago) and Philippines (recently). I really like the Latina women, but I can't imagine staying in Brazil so long again as my Portuguese is weak.What else are you looking for? I've been considering the Philippines myself because of the English Speakers. In Phuket Thailand they will speak enough English to get any sexual desire across (but not enough to tell a joke or hang out). I have mongered in South Africa: plenty of English but be prepared to wear four condoms, Barbados they also speak English but you must like dark chocolate (and a bit of 420), most of Europe (Germany, Holland, Belgium anyway) they will be from the FSU but will speak enough English to get by, but probably not fall in love. Scandinavia (Sweden anyway) they speak enough to put you in jail (it's legal for the girl but illegal for the guy). Have you thought about Canada? Vancouver and Toronto perfect English, Montreal some English but more passionate and cheaper, but move fast as the laws may be changing. There is always England. Avoid the Soho tourist traps. I mostly have gone for relatively high scale outcall escorts there. A bit pricey but they inevitably speak English (again former FSU girls).
As far as Latin women go, the hot ones rarely speak good English unless: 1) you are dealing with someone very high class, or 2) you are lucky (had that happen in Medellin, but it was luck). Maybe a bit more in Costa Rica, or then again there is Puerto Rica, they speak English, but the prices are first world.
If you tell us the other qualities you want and how good the English needs to be perhaps we can help more.
BTW how good was the English in the Philippines? Was it grunting basic communication? Or could you chat, laugh and connect together?
Errol Flynn
10-13-14, 08:29
Hi Sam,
Wanting an answer to to similar queistion to urs.
Want to go Thailand! But the wifey will wonder why I want to go to Thailand (she knows)(attraction to me is the cost / choice) and I don't like chasing. India sounds good but I think everybody is out to shaft you there. What other countrys are good!! At resonable costs.
What sort of money do you pay in Thailand for couple of pops!! (USD).
Thanks guys, any info is helpfull.My experience in Thailand is a bit dated so I'm not going to quote prices for sex, but it is cheap. Getting and staying there is the cost.
Given that you're married I think (From personal experience) that the cover story is more important than a few dollars extra per pop. And I think Thailand holds a lot of good cover story and innocent pictures you can take to show the friends back home But please take some dirty ones for us.
If you want a cover you do not want to go to Pattaya, it's way too obvious why a single guy goes there. But, depending on you, and the type of story you want, you can easily go to Phuket, or Bangkok or Issan, or many other places.
I went to Phuket (officially to look at a sailing yacht for an associate, but of course I wanted to see some culture. So I invested in a driver for a day and in rapid succession got pictures of myself (driver obliged and took them) riding an elephant, visiting a Temple, shooting AK=47's at a gun range, visiting an impoverished village, going to the diamond shop, and eating at a beautiful waterfront seafood restaurant (where I posed with the attractive but clearly conservative waitresses for the perfect pictures to take home). Hi Honey, I even met the locals, aren't they sweet and innocent? So at the end of the day I had enough material to cover a week. And I got the rest of the week to play.
Good luck.
C Jack Sparrow
10-15-14, 14:36
I go 100% for a Medellin Trophy Wife.
I have a XL equipment and a medium wallet, education and Nobody beats me intellectually!
But My weakness; I fall for Trophy Wifes and Medellin are full of them.
They are 100% material-girls so it does it's not compalatible!
However, XL-equipment and testosterone supplements, Viagra, Cialis, some valium, Tradamdol and I'm a Genius and a Toro Bravo in one person!
Sideeffects, let's talk about that another day!
If you are a Western Man. You must follow your sexual desire; otherwise frustration will pop-up and passion will disappear.
Take a firm control over the economy, block every attempt to empty your bank account etc.
I have treated this born-hookers as Ladies, and paid heavily losses!
Lately my defense system works wonderfully and I get the babes I want.
I will marry a girl from Medellin.
She beats all the others, since Venezuela is impossible to live in and Brazil has become to expensive.
Then you have a perfect life; a babe with doll face, big silicon breasts, round butt, aerobics muscular legs, a lot of make-up, perfume, lingurie, elegant dress, close fit jeans, high heels; all that you ever dreamt of!
Toro Bravo!
Never forget that you are in charge!
You are the Bull, the Boss!
She will pull every trick she can come up with, even those girls that you believe are 100% honest, LOL!
So just keep the Toro Bravo-control!
She accept it!
It's in her nature to empty your wallet, and it's never enough! Never!
Just remeber that and you can enjoy her positive sides of her personality!
Many girls are very sweet!
And they love sex! With Anglo-Saxon more than anything!
The money issue solved with a FIRM policy, which she will accept, since she has no options, more than prostitute herself!
Incomes are rising, but are still a Joke for us, never forget that!
That's the thing, don't avoid Colombianas, meet them. And beat them!
Minnesotah
10-22-14, 06:41
Have you thought about Canada? Vancouver and Toronto perfect English, Montreal some English but more passionate and cheaper, but move fast as the laws may be changing. There is always England.Canada and Western Europe is ok for short term getaways, but is it not a forum about LTR? In that case, based on the typical member's average expectations, Canada is not any better than US or Western Europe. Sure, almost everybody speaks English in Canada, except for some French people in Quebec and new comers in Vancouver. On the other hand, you cannot think of the Western world women having the same deal with you as you can get in the developing countries. Unless you drive a Lamborghini or you have your own private jet, money won't impress them much as they earn their own and they won't care whatever you come from. Picking up women in Paris, London, Brussels, Toronto or New York is the same ballpark.
Errol Flynn
10-29-14, 08:02
So where would you go for LTR?
It's a serious question.
Picking up women in Paris, London, Brussels, Toronto or New York is the same ballpark.How about Germany? My experience in Germany is Women there are a little tamed.
How can anyone brag about best sex destination providing that women aren't the same -or- how would rate an Asian Shrimp comparing to a Bomba from Hungary?
As for LTR and the scene in general.
To put it mildly there is a global talent drain as of the last several years. I mean, with the financial crash, many girls just dropped out because the juice wasn't worth the squeeze (pun intended hehe). So since QE was introduced as a response to the crisis, women have found an abundance of state programs to take advantage of ever since. Couple that with an aging provider population and a dwindling female population worlds wide, and I think we are on the cusp of a dark age in our little hobby.
Forget providers, just girls in general are getting uglier and uglier as they are gravitating to comfort foods (which have become cheaper and more incentive) and absconding from ideals of discipline and exercise. And why should they bother if they are in such high demand due to shortage, right? Their ghetto pimp dealer boyfriends know this too, so they have started edging the worst trait (vanity) in a campaign to absolutely butcher these girls' beauty and therefore their market desirability. The boyfriends are afraid the girls will leave them (and rightfully so) because they ain't worth a second-hand shit in the marketplace of humanity (there is an over-abundant glut of well established men). Bring in feminism across the other flank to make damn sure that all standards are completely eliminated on women and you have the "you better find fat attractive. Or else" phenomenon. So the hot ones are getting mopped up and put on retainer right out of the discos, well before they ever leave high school (the upper 1/10th of 1% have it real good right now).
A reasonably attractive provider, if you can find one, can pretty much write her own ticket and honestly doesn't need your patronage at this point. Besides, nowadays its harder to get drugs than it is to get money for these girls. That's why they go for the dealers to begin with. That is"the fat wallet" aphrodisiac for the girls! (is it a surprise that all the best dealers are state affiliated? It all fits hand in glove).
And there you have it. We are in deeply troubling times.
You know. 25 yrs ago that fat, squat, dysmorphic goblin Kim "ass-trash" turdashian simply wouldn't have been tolerated, let alone deified for her stomach turning twerk movies. Enjoy kylie Jenner while you can, because you KNOW the clock is ticking on her before the same contagious disease that infected Kim will metastasize over to her. Kylie is already twerking. That is the first symptom.
Jack Burton
01-28-16, 06:30
30 minutes hardly qualifies for LTR though... :)For some guys, 8 minutes qualifies for LTR. For me, it's more than one shot, so, say 45 minute minimum.
Jack Burton
01-28-16, 14:40
German is like English a Germanic language and should be much easier to learn than Spanish.
But the easiert language for a native English speaker to learn should be Bahasa Indonesia. The easiest language in the world.
Disagree. For me, Spanish was easy, but not German. Yes, Bahasa Indonesia is the easiest language to learn. Are the Indonesians also the easiest?
Disagree. For me, Spanish was easy, but not German. Yes, Bahasa Indonesia is the easiest language to learn. Are the Indonesians also the easiest?Don't know easiest, but high on the list!
Lovely sexy girls too.
Eszpresszo
12-30-16, 17:22
I hope this question has't already been done to death: what countries are good to visit where people speak English?
I've been to Brazil (a long time ago) and Philippines (recently). I really like the Latina women, but I can't imagine staying in Brazil so long again as my Portuguese is weak.Much of Northern Europe is great place for the English monoglot, though not all places are good for mongering. The Netherlands apparently has such an unattractive scene these days, that the Dutch mongers prefer to visit the FKK clubs in nearby Germany. At least that is what a Dutch monger told me.
Germany is very good, particularly around Frankfurt or other locations where US, UK and Canadian troops have been stationed long-term. Frankfurt has affordable options, though it is one of my least favorite cities in Germany. I am from Dallas, and the parallels are so strong, I call it "the Dallas of Germany". But, English is like a second language in and around Frankfurt.
As for Brazil, I think it would be worth learning to speak Portuguese for.
Frankypanky
05-06-18, 20:23
Much of Northern Europe is great place for the English monoglot, though not all places are good for mongering. The Netherlands apparently has such an unattractive scene these days, that the Dutch mongers prefer to visit the FKK clubs in nearby Germany. At least that is what a Dutch monger told me.
Germany is very good, particularly around Frankfurt or other locations where US, UK and Canadian troops have been stationed long-term. Frankfurt has affordable options, though it is one of my least favorite cities in Germany. I am from Dallas, and the parallels are so strong, I call it "the Dallas of Germany". But, English is like a second language in and around Frankfurt.
As for Brazil, I think it would be worth learning to speak Portuguese for.At Eszpresszo,
In my humble opinion the Dutch monger is right. Those whom can afford are going to the German FKK-clubs. Much more value for money AND attractive girls also.
The Dutch scene is dead. Old Latina's or scamming Eastern girls, it's all a waste of money. Unless you can get specific info from some Dutch mongerforums, but no 100% guarantee for value.
To answer the topic question. IMHO, I think Thailand offers the best LTR. I have has many fine and nice LTR with Thai-ladies. It is also nice if a country has plenty to offer -besides cheap pussy- in order to relax or experience. Cuba and The Philipines are also nice options.
Elvis 2008
07-14-18, 22:42
I go 100% for a Medellin Trophy Wife.
I have a XL equipment and a medium wallet, education and Nobody beats me intellectually!
But My weakness; I fall for Trophy Wifes and Medellin are full of them.
They are 100% material-girls so it does it's not compalatible!
If you are a Western Man. You must follow your sexual desire; otherwise frustration will pop-up and passion will disappear.
Take a firm control over the economy, block every attempt to empty your bank account etc.
I have treated this born-hookers as Ladies, and paid heavily losses!
Lately my defense system works wonderfully and I get the babes I want.
I will marry a girl from Medellin.Right now, there are 500,000 Venezuelan women living in surrounding countries aged 20 to 40, and they are typically professionals. The Venezuelan women have all the good qualities of the Colombian women, but they are better looking IMO, more open sexually, they are not as materialistic, and they are desperate. Even if they are out of Venezuela, they are having to send money home to their families. Anyone who likes Latinas should try hooking up with a Venezuelan woman. To me, this is the best type of woman in the world right now for a LTR. You aren't going to get the loyalty, looks, sexual energy, and intelligence package with any other group of women IMO.
DJ FourMoney
08-12-18, 16:11
Right now, there are 500,000 Venezuelan women living in surrounding countries aged 20 to 40, and they are typically professionals. The Venezuelan women have all the good qualities of the Colombian women, but they are better looking IMO, more open sexually, they are not as materialistic, and they are desperate. Even if they are out of Venezuela, they are having to send money home to their families. Anyone who likes Latinas should try hooking up with a Venezuelan woman. To me, this is the best type of woman in the world right now for a LTR. You aren't going to get the loyalty, looks, sexual energy, and intelligence package with any other group of women IMO.That is an interesting observation especially if you know anything about the political and economic climate of the country since 2008.
One thing that doesn't get spoken about enough is being a risk taker. The vast majority of women respect risk takers. With Venezuela looking as unstable as it does there might be an opportunity for Western men there that isn't widely spoken about.
But honestly you could say the same for Argentina. But to talk about LTR on the companion forum is not worth doing and all the old heads will say it's a waste of time.
I love Latinas you can use all the obvious cliques about them and of course like any stereotype there is a element of truth in it. That said the passion does get tempered as economic status increases.
The Golden spots for most Western men -.
Latin America, South East Asia (possibly China, Japan and South Korea) and Eastern Europe.
It was pretty much the same ten years ago and hasn't changed. Shows you how much things actually change.
I am here in Pattaya for my 100th trip (feels like it anyway). I am not a fan of oriental women (yes including Thai women in this bucket). I am not attracted to 95% of the available Thai women but all the other logistics work out really well. I can get a 7 month permit to stay, English is spoken well enough, I love the cuisine, it's very very safe, it's easily accessible for me, there is good diving / nature / beach, etc etc.
Now I have been here for 6 weeks and I have only shagged 3 women on this trip. Every night I start drinking to head out but eventually decide it's better to go to sleep.
Prices have gone up for ST / LT and the Thai currency is strong compared to the currencies I am holding. E. g vs British pound it's almost become double.
I shake at the knee for Latino women. Having spent a lot of time in Medellin, multiple times. I pretty much went to the casas everyday! But it's the same old story. Language barriers, and super super dangerous. I am a massively muscly tall under-40 guy but I dare not step out at night (I have a few times but even the locals grabbed me and insisted I take a taxi and go home). My flatmate in Medellin (American) was robbed under gunpoint in broad daylight, previous flatmates of his were also robbed in daylight.
That just sucks!!
Anyway I need to get out of Asia. Serbian women are THE hottest I have seen in the world. But I don't see myself anywhere in Asia unless I can get ST for around £10-15.
So it looks again between Colombia (Medellin, continue my Spanish studies) or Brazil (back to Rio or try Floripa, start Brazilian Portuguese from scratch). They both have a bit of an LB / TV / TS / TG scene which I also indulge in.
Any tips and hints for a 3-6 month trip that will be easy on my wallet, plenty of fun / night life, beach, etc?
Master Yoda
12-29-18, 05:12
If you want blessed marriage with a foreign beautiful unspoiled by American pop culture girl, KEEP her in her country and move in with her.
If you say you can't or you prefer your country or any other lame excuse including finding a well paying job, guess what; You are already spoiled by the same enfectious brainwashing culture you complained about initially and you really deserve that spoiled American Big, rough, selfish, ignorant, complaining, low self esteemed, masculine. Etc woman.It amazes me how guys constantly forget to add western Europe (Including Southern Europe) to this list. Don't bring her to America or Western Europe if you want a blessed marriage.
I did Thailand for 30 yrs and its the pits now for prices and attitudes. True you can find cheaper up in Isaan but generally its better to head to south america for some decent punting. Peek years was 87 to 90's in Bangkok. Not worth the hassle now. If everyone has smartphones you know its time to move on to somewhere cheaper.
It amazes me how guys constantly forget to add western Europe (Including Southern Europe) to this list. Don't bring her to America or Western Europe if you want a blessed marriage.What kind of list?
And yes, if you bring the girl to western Europe you will almost certainly end in a divorce! However, it is to say that statistics in Eastern Europe are not better at all!
For example, divorce rates in:
- Ukraine: 42 %.
- Russia 51 %.
- Belarus 68 %.
And the highest divorce rates around the world were registered in the Maldives.
Source: https://www.therichest.com/rich-list/the-biggest/10-countries-with-the-highest-divorce-rates/.
Conclusion: There is no "more security for a longlasting marriage" in Eastern Europe. No, not at all!
Here some other statistic in Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce_demography), also here, no significant difference between east and west!
Any tips and hints for a 3-6 month trip that will be easy on my wallet, plenty of fun / night life, beach, etc?Bro,
I think you are referring to entire South America. Pick the one you find safest. IMHO, prices of mongering and living is equal or less in most South American countries. I say this from my research in this site.
I am heading to Mexico myself next week, for the first time. Agreed on Thailand, price up and attitude down.
LucasHood2020
10-16-19, 15:45
I did Thailand for 30 yrs and its the pits now for prices and attitudes. True you can find cheaper up in Isaan but generally its better to head to south america for some decent punting. Peek years was 87 to 90's in Bangkok. Not worth the hassle now. If everyone has smartphones you know its time to move on to somewhere cheaper.I've been to Thailand 5 times. Only been to Bangkok once but pattaya 5 times. I think the reason people keep coming back is despite the increase in prices the place is relatively safe for a solo traveller as long as you don't act like an idiot you will be fine. I'd be more weary for my safety in South America compared to Thailand.
TurdyCurdyOne
12-22-19, 02:48
Bro,
I think you are referring to entire South America. Pick the one you find safest. IMHO, prices of mongering and living is equal or less in most South American countries. I say this from my research in this site.
I am heading to Mexico myself next week, for the first time. Agreed on Thailand, price up and attitude down.You might want to rethink your trip plans. Just in last week new warnings from USA State Dept. About increased violence by cartels. The map shows the only really safe areas now AR in and near the Yucatan.
TurdyCurdyOne
12-24-19, 03:53
This is a question for those who have mongered in Africa and in the Philippines in the last 2-3 years. In Africa I am thinking Uganda or big cities. In Philippines, I am thinking Cebu or provincial cities. Which place are the budget hookers the cheapest to deal with? I mean least flaky, least likely to cause trouble, are not dead fish in bed, good personalities. I am only interested in experience with street working girls or freelancers, I do not use middle men, pimps, clubs with barfines or massage parlors. I am also interested in short term but overnight. Long term would be like a girlfriend that you can stand for more than a few months. Thanks for any help on this. I am also thinking of posting on my blog a list of Filipina online IDs that are undesirable as a warning to others who use DIA or similar (not real names, handles) Let me know if anyone is interested in that info and I will post here also.
Hello,
I've been to only a couple of countries. I thought maybe eastern Europe would be a good place. I like all kinds of women, but I haven't found many good white girls or thought of maybe gypsy like? I've been to Latin and South America just thought I would ask about other options. I would like advice considering the below. I'm planing on booking a trip for next year.
Oh. I'm a little confused str vs LTR. I was thinking the qv vs HR or something but I see some. Marriage talk?
A. expense (total not just girls).
Be. Ease of room (I don't like public or car).
Hotels can be a pain with guest and I'm not sure which countries are better or worse on this. I had good luck with an airbnb before. There was a doorman / security but at least he didn't really bother me, he just smiled allot when I brought a guest.
Advice here too please.
See. LTR if I understand the term correctly. 1 HR - 3 hrs. 1 is usually enough, I don't like to be rushed, but I did have one that stayed with me and I woke her a few hours later.
The. Of course good looking girls!
I'm a little confused str vs LTR. 1 HR - 3 hrs. 1 is usually enough, I don't like to be rushed, If you really want for only an hour then Check out the other thread about shorter meetings:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1075-What-Country-has-the-Best-Women-for-STR
I did Thailand for 30 yrs and its the pits now for prices and attitudes. True you can find cheaper up in Isaan but generally its better to head to south america for some decent punting. Peek years was 87 to 90's in Bangkok. Not worth the hassle now. If everyone has smartphones you know its time to move on to somewhere cheaper.I can't think of anywhere in the world that wasn't better 15 years ago. Punting has changed and the world is against us. Punters also need to evolve.
Elvis 2008
08-13-20, 03:13
Of different countries. There was a book called chica spotting that compared Latin breeds, but I am wondering if others could weigh in. What is your impression of Mexican, Colombian, Venezuelan, and Brazilian women in long term relationships? I would appreciate insight from anyone who has had a relationship with women from any of these countries.
SnoopySpain
01-02-21, 20:11
Hello,
Which countries would be the best for a Latino with brown skin?
I am 27 and I live in Spain, and I am Spanish because I am adopted, the truth is that I am almost 100% Spanish except for my skin, I have been living in Spain since I was 1 year old. So I have this doubt, because being of Latin origin, if I go to South America I will not stand out so much, or in Africa I do not know.
If someone can advise me a little?
Hey everyone,
I'm an Egyptian dude in my early 20's. I have the opportunity to travel the world and work remotely thanks to the job I'm in. I grew up abroad so I'm not your typical Arab dude, I'm more "westernized and progressive" so to speak.
About me.
-Ethnicity: Arab / white Mediterranean. I have white skin but have Mediterranean / Arab features (thick black curly hair, eyebrows, brown eyes). The American and European women I video chatted with online always thought I was Spanish or Italian.
-Height: my downside. I'm 5'10 (5'11 with shoes on).
-Body: fit and muscular.
-Personality: laid-back, introverted. But I can be extroverted and very confident when I want to impress (job, girls, etc).
-I have a Muslim name. I don't know if that might affect dating and hook-ups.
These are the countries I've been looking at:
1. Colombia.
2. Canada (Montreal).
3. Ukraine.
4, Poland.
5. Bulgaria.
6. Mexico.
7. Philippines.
Women with large breasts are my preference. Feminine figure and face too. And they should be able to cook and clean if I get to that point of the relationship. I am personally attracted the most to busty pale white girls, followed by Latinas.
1. So, are there any countries that are attracted to Egyptian / white arab guys like me? Basically, countries where I would have a good chance of dating / hooking up / having a relationship despite my arab ethnicity and name.
2. Which countries listed here do you think fit my criteria the most, and would be attracted to an arab guy?
3. If you know any more countries that would work for me, please do tell! Scandinavian maybe? Any other baltic or slavic countries?
Anyways, as a digital nomad, I definitely plan on visiting and living in one of these countries so long as the women there are my type.
I did Thailand for 30 yrs and its the pits now for prices and attitudes. True you can find cheaper up in Isaan but generally its better to head to south america for some decent punting. Peek years was 87 to 90's in Bangkok. Not worth the hassle now. If everyone has smartphones you know its time to move on to somewhere cheaper.I could not agree with you more, you have taken the words right out of my mouth. I have moved on to Colombia were prices are more like they were 20 yrs ago in Thailand.
Zach Hammond
08-18-21, 21:44
I could not agree with you more, you have taken the words right out of my mouth. I have moved on to Colombia were prices are more like they were 20 yrs ago in Thailand.That's nice if you like curvy women. Thailand for me was about the spinners. Can't find many of those in Colombia.
ManonsanBoy
08-29-21, 20:32
I am familiar with pretty much all of South East Asia and I did a grand tour in late 2019. I started mongering there in 1977. The usual haunts were all going down hill. Angeles, Manila, Cebu, Pattaya, Dongguan, Bangkok, Jakarta, Bali, Vietnam, Siem Reap, Penang. Put simply, there is now a talent shortage. Angeles, compared to early 2000's was particularly disappointing. The Koreans offer a better deal. Dongguan is now complete web based and you need to read Chinese. Bali is sad. In the old days, I used to be "hired" by the Aussie girls if they were not happy with the talent at the resorts. One time, I had to handle 3 together and they would ask me to get locals for them every day. I spoke Malay so it was no problem. I used to spend 2 weeks a year. The scene, if you can get there was so desolate.
Hey everyone,
I'm an Egyptian dude in my early 20's. I have the opportunity to travel the world and work remotely thanks to the job I'm in. I grew up abroad so I'm not your typical Arab dude, I'm more "westernized and progressive" so to speak.
About me.
-Ethnicity: Arab / white Mediterranean. I have white skin but have Mediterranean / Arab features (thick black curly hair, eyebrows, brown eyes). The American and European women I video chatted with online always thought I was Spanish or Italian.
-Height: my downside. I'm 5'10 (5'11 with shoes on).
-Body: fit and muscular.
-Personality: laid-back, introverted. But I can be extroverted and very confident when I want to impress (job, girls, etc).
-I have a Muslim name. I don't know if that might affect dating and hook-ups.
These are the countries I've been looking at:.None of the above.
Indonesia would be your perfect destination. In general, girls are more submissive, they will cook and clean (they assume its their duty to do so). And under that Hijab, Indonesian Girls are actually very kinky underneath. They will also be positive towards your ethnicity (No Judgement there).
JonesLover
11-08-21, 19:46
Hi,
If you know peoples / girls well around the world, I hope you can reply me.
I'm an old European man and I look good and youth (I look like 55 yo, even if I'm older).
I speak fluent Spanish, English and Portuguese.
I don't take interest for the the city or place or climate, but only for the quality of the girls.
I'd like to rent a good apartment and to stay with her for 10 days or more. I'd like to visit her other times in the follow years too. I can travel once a year.
I don't like bars or clubs, but I like to be with her in the apartment for a lot of time and pass much time in the bed with her. Jajajaja.
I like to joke, kidding, cook, music, etc.
I'd like to meet beautiful, sweet and kind girls (18-26 yo) who love sex.
I usually buy some gifts for her when we are together and. When I leave her I'd like to give her some money too (but not a lot). Around 250 euro are OK for 10 days.
But I don't want a girl attached so much to money, but to the person that I am. I'm a loving man who likes to convey love on her.
Repeat, I look for a beautiful, sweet, kind, lovable girl who like me as I am.
I don't know if there are this type of girls around the world. Jajajajaajaja.
Thank you for your precious news.
Kiev Freak
01-18-22, 17:41
I did Thailand for 30 yrs and its the pits now for prices and attitudes. True you can find cheaper up in Isaan but generally its better to head to south america for some decent punting. Peek years was 87 to 90's in Bangkok. Not worth the hassle now. If everyone has smartphones you know its time to move on to somewhere cheaper.I agree every single word in this post.
MickeyDuck1208
01-21-22, 09:49
+1 for Indonesia. Very progressive country. One of my most memorable encounters was with a hijab wearing girl. Acted like strangers till we were inside the room, then she opened up like a beautiful flower!!
Having met about 8-10 girls in Jakarta from the dating apps, and a few spas too, they are probably better than Thai girls in many ways.
None of the above.
Indonesia would be your perfect destination. In general, girls are more submissive, they will cook and clean (they assume its their duty to do so). And under that Hijab, Indonesian Girls are actually very kinky underneath. They will also be positive towards your ethnicity (No Judgement there).
JonesLover
01-27-22, 23:40
they are probably better than Thai girls in many ways.But they're no better than pinays.
Hi,
If you know peoples / girls well around the world, I hope you can reply me.
I'm an old European man and I look good and youth (I look like 55 yo, even if I'm older).
I speak fluent Spanish, English and Portuguese.
I don't take interest for the the city or place or climate, but only for the quality of the girls.
I'd like to rent a good apartment and to stay with her for 10 days or more. I'd like to visit her other times in the follow years too. I can travel once a year.
I don't like bars or clubs, but I like to be with her in the apartment for a lot of time and pass much time in the bed with her. Jajajaja.
I like to joke, kidding, cook, music, etc.
I'd like to meet beautiful, sweet and kind girls (18-26 yo) who love sex..In my estimation, the chance is less than 1%. The age gap combined with 10 days per year intensity precludes an attachment to personality. It can be only for money.
The sex for money field has a strong natural selection precluding the combination of beautiful, lovely and young. At least 95% are either overweight, old or arrogant.
Despite this quality, 250€ for 10 days is still laughable, no matter how poor is her country. If you manage to arrange for 2500€, it is a great achievement.
In my view, it is mostly about language. The first choice is the country of your native language. The second is the language you understand. And the third is the language you can at least check the translator. In the latter case, Latin America is preferable to South Asia. When it is Hindi or Thai you have no idea what the translator wrote.
Speaking specifically for people of East European or FSU origins, I also advise Latin America over South Asia. Latin girls smiled to me more than did Indian and Thai and the difference is significant. Some reports also tell about Thai girls who go only with the Japanese. I heard nothing similar from Latin America.
...Latin girls smiled to me more than did Indian and Thai and the difference is significant. Some reports also tell about Thai girls who go only with the Japanese. I heard nothing similar from Latin America.Just adding my 2-cents. I am familiar with both Latin girls and Thai girls. In my experience, I found Thai girls to be friendlier and smiles more often than Latin women.
Indeed, most Thai girls prefer Japanese customers, but there are a lot more Thai girls than Japanese customers. There are always enough Thai girls available for everybody. The reason Thai girls prefer Japanese customers is because they have a reputation of being gentle, and more important, generous. There are not a whole lot of Japanese men mongering in Latin America.
And I have no comment about Indian women. I never had a chance to meet one. My only chance was in a German FKK, where I saw a young and pretty Indian woman, but she was busy with her regular customers, and she wouldn't give me the time of day.
I am planning to travel just for mongering, and spend time with ladies. Which country do you guys think would be the best, not that expensive and easy to find girls? I thought of Dubai, but not really sure yet.
There are countries better for long term relations but very relative. In general, no country in the world is good for the purpose. Understanding this from the beginning would save much time, money, efforts and frustrations.
But understanding this comes slowly and after much trouble, financial and spiritual, due to the mass media which developed a wrong and misguiding stereotype of a woman in the Third World. We hear, see and read from everywhere about poor, measurable women in the Third World struggling for living, desperate and restricted to the alternative of prostitution or suicide. All bullshit.
The real life is the opposite. All the world is a paradise, at least for good looking girls, including single mothers. None is hungry for money, none gives a shit on moving to the developed world.
It does not matter how much money you have, or how serious are your intentions. They enjoy their lives, they have there family and friends, they buy whatever they like, and discos, salons and pools are their weekly entertainment.
So, if you are brainwashed by the media, and you think, "Wow, I am going to save one desperate lady, I would treat her like princess, I would care for her and all her family, and she would kiss me. " her reply would be "go f. Yourself".
They do not look for humanitarian help. They look for equal relations. They look first and foremost on what person you are, before how much you earn or where you live. No doubt, the odds are still better than in the Western sex prison but only slightly. You would need perfect behavior, much efforts and even more luck. Otherwise you would return alone.
WhiteMambaa
07-21-22, 19:43
Indian women are prejudice and it is rare for them to marry outside their parents home village, much less marry outside their race.
Peru girls are good. Just are too fiery for me.
Thai's have the reputation of Hi divorce rates. Though the nes from good families are worth it.
East Africans are friendly, but the regular girls probably average 50 guys in their life.
Vietnamese think differently. Massive culture shock. They do tend to be fuckable virgins though. (unlike Indian women) You just need to be serious to them. Most girls are virgins till married.
Filipino women often have a good grasp on English, are used to working hard, compatible western culture and absolutely amazing mothers. Just make sure she is from a good family and from the village. Don't meet her on the bar, though I did marry a virgin bar girl.
Even if not true, tell them you want to live in Manila. If they run, they weren't good.
Just adding my 2-cents. I am familiar with both Latin girls and Thai girls. In my experience, I found Thai girls to be friendlier and smiles more often than Latin women.
Indeed, most Thai girls prefer Japanese customers, but there are a lot more Thai girls than Japanese customers. There are always enough Thai girls available for everybody. The reason Thai girls prefer Japanese customers is because they have a reputation of being gentle, and more important, generous. There are not a whole lot of Japanese men mongering in Latin America.
And I have no comment about Indian women. I never had a chance to meet one. My only chance was in a German FKK, where I saw a young and pretty Indian woman, but she was busy with her regular customers, and she wouldn't give me the time of day.
I want to upgrade a SB to a LTR, which one of these 2 candidates should I try? The one at the pool is 27 and the other is 21.Obviously, the one one with biggest tits!
ThickHead99
09-14-22, 12:05
I want to upgrade a SB to a LTR, which one of these 2 candidates should I try? The one at the pool is 27 and the other is 21.The one you get on with best and who is most interested in pleasing you.
Losing reason to stay in USA, except maybe a visit at Christmas, but want to live in relative (upper middle class) comfort. Will retire with $2. 5 M in assets. I only speak English and from having tried to learn Spanish it's clear my aptitude for languages is lacking. I'm not wanting to choose a place exclusively for monger but want to have GFE level access to the ladies. Suggestions?
Mongerer88
09-24-22, 01:10
Losing reason to stay in USA, except maybe a visit at Christmas, but want to live in relative (upper middle class) comfort. Will retire with $2. 5 M in assets. I only speak English and from having tried to learn Spanish it's clear my aptitude for languages is lacking. I'm not wanting to choose a place exclusively for monger but want to have GFE level access to the ladies. Suggestions?Take a look at Lisbon.
English is so widely spoken that if you look American or British people just default to English.
The area encompassing Lisbon, Apple Beach, Sintra, Cascais and Estoril is about the size of LOS Angeles Metro. Those cities would just be called neighborhoods in L. A. No real winter.
Low crime and low costs. Plenty of rural areas that are beautiful in addition to first class tourism. You can even pass the time fishing if you want.
BBBJ, often to completion, is standard as part of sex. Reasonable prices, with half hour being less than 100 euros and an hour being equal or less than 150 euros.
Fish and custard tarts are the staple foods, but they are good with chicken, and okay with pork. Good bread and olives, and of course port wine.
Friendly people who haven't been indoctrinated, or simply didn't accept, the anti-Americanism and anti-British nonsense that permeates so much of the world. Couldn't the rest of the world let the Queen be buried in peace without asking for some money for things that happened centuries ago?
KittenMittons
09-29-22, 18:25
I am planning my next trip and would like to try some new destinations. I am fairly experienced. I use a lot of Seeking Arrangements in the US. Outside the US, so far I have done some level of mongering in Mexico City, Amsterdam, Prague, Bangkok, Pattaya, Cartagena, Medellin, Panama City, and Costa Rica. Medellin and Pattaya are my two favorites by far.
Bogota is on the to do list for sure. Philippines seems so have a good reputation here, I need to read more about it and how it compares to Thailand and if they have the same types of gogo bars and number of girls available. Would love to find a really nice spot in Eastern Europe for that type of girls.
Where else does everyone suggest? I am happy to provide tips and recommendations from anywhere I have been.
TouristInLust
10-16-22, 06:54
Losing reason to stay in USA, except maybe a visit at Christmas, but want to live in relative (upper middle class) comfort. Will retire with $2. 5 M in assets. I only speak English and from having tried to learn Spanish it's clear my aptitude for languages is lacking. I'm not wanting to choose a place exclusively for monger but want to have GFE level access to the ladies. Suggestions?Its got to be somewhere in Latin America- best option IMO is Mexico. If you got no Spanish at all, I would start with Cabo or Cancun, then move to CDMX. After that you can decide, what the best city for you. The bigger cities will obviously be better if your Spanish is minimal. In my trips to GDL, I was able to get by with my basic survival level Spanish and met quite a few people around town who spoke Spanish.
From what I hear on the internets, many expat communities all over Mexico- Ajijic in Jalisco, CDMX, Merida, etc.
Regarding learning Spanish- I think it has to be done in a 1 on 1 tutoring sessions- many options on the internet with skype or zoom classes starting at $10/ hour. I am currently at a B1 level (CEFR) and for me it is a looong intermediate plateau before getting to B2 level.
Trevor2522
10-24-22, 21:33
https://unjected.com/
Most members come from North America, Western Europe and Australia. Some younger women. For people who have not taken the Covid shots and are seeking similar. However, vaccine status is taken on trust. Also has an interesting 'Feed' tab on vaccine-related issues. So many injuries. Glad I never submitted!
Member #4813
01-01-23, 05:09
https://unjected.com/
Most members come from North America, Western Europe and Australia. Some younger women. For people who have not taken the Covid shots and are seeking similar. However, vaccine status is taken on trust. Also has an interesting 'Feed' tab on vaccine-related issues. So many injuries. Glad I never submitted!The chicks on this site must be awesome. No need to worry about using condoms, since no one believes that they prevent sexually transmitted diseases or pregnancy. Just grab 'them by the pussy!
My major concern is that about 50 years ago, I was vaccinated against polio, pertussis, tetanus, measles, mumps and rubella. These vaccines were obviously unnecessary, as almost no one gets these diseases anymore. Could my vaccines from the 70's injure my date? So many injuries.
My major concern is that about 50 years ago, I was vaccinated against polio, pertussis, tetanus, measles, mumps and rubella. These vaccines were obviously unnecessary, as almost no one gets these diseases anymore. Could my vaccines from the 70's injure my date? So many injuries.Those vaccines were vaccines, which is to say they involved an injection of a dead or weakened version of the virus which allowed the body to create defences against it. They were also all tested and trialled for many years before being released to the public.
The covid shots, by contrast, are not vaccines (at least until the meaning of the word was changed in certain dictionaries under extreme pressure in the last couple of years). They are experimental gene therapy, involving mRNA and spike proteins. They were not tested or trialled at all; merely cooked up and pumped out within a period of a few months.
Good luck to you if you took one. I'd advise you to keep your heart rate as low as possible.
MongeringLeo
02-09-23, 21:04
Fellow seniors and brothers.
Was browsing through couple of MR profiles and reached out to few who shared attached profiles. Has anyone tried these birds? No red flags so far and Truecaller isn't showing scam so that's something at least. Requesting fellow seniors to suggest if these birds have been flying for a while and should be avoided. Quoting 8 k for 2 shots.
Many Thanks in advance, Happy & Safe Mongering.
BadBoyLucifer
02-10-23, 06:01
Fellow seniors and brothers.
Was browsing through couple of MR profiles and reached out to few who shared attached profiles. Has anyone tried these birds? No red flags so far and Truecaller isn't showing scam so that's something at least. Requesting fellow seniors to suggest if these birds have been flying for a while and should be avoided. Quoting 8 k for 2 shots.
Many Thanks in advance, Happy & Safe Mongering.Which city?
Elmer Fuddness
03-01-23, 20:45
So originally I was really fascinated by the idea of having a house full of women, but about 10 minutes into Sister Wives, it became very clear the idea was totally idiotic. I like the sex and spreading my seed, but I definitely do not want to be dealing with more than one woman at home unless that woman occupies some near silent type position. More and more I realize that women truly are only interested in terms of a LTR some sort of financial arrangement. Overtly or covertly. As offensive as some may see it, I think that seeking arrangements in many ways, laughably is one of the more honest ways that women interact with men. I had a revelation of sorts with two different discussion points. The first was someone mentioning how women in poor countries, the money and power disparity is such that average western men essentially come into their lives like a billionaire comes through the life of a western woman. And then lastly, I saw someone talking about finding a woman who would want to travel with him, in exchange for sex. He was literally, seeking an arrangement. But then I thought about times were someone I knew did want to travel to me, and that much would be obvious and realized that was a woman seeking an arrangement.
So I made the red pill journey where you realize it's all sort of a sham and that for me really sort of destroyed the essence of what I think makes a family beautiful, but none the less, getting woken up with blowjobs and having a wife that can get a proper paycheck, it's not a bad setup. Regardless, I've devolved into pur firehose mode.
So I want to start having kids in different countries. The obvious first choice seems, to me at least, to be the Philippines. But I would love to hear more input. I'm basically looking for a country where the women have a more traditional way of looking at things, that culturally would be open to a father figure that isn't really in the picture all that much, but would be open to travel and some sort of loose arrangement. With the general idea that I could probably start 2-3 more families and see the mom and our kids a couple times a year and if the wife starts acting up, to pivot. Though she seems to be willing to play a strong defense. She said if any "fucking ***** is going to be in my house it better be some illegal so if she gives us any problems" LOL.
So I guess does anyone have any really terrible ideas to get started on so I can fuck up my life?
So I guess does anyone have any really terrible ideas to get started on so I can fuck up my life?I think your ideas are perfectly suited to fuck up your life.
FRobertson
06-26-23, 19:53
I think he meant to say "how can I start fucking up the lives of as many future kids as I can in different countries".
Because, you know, they don't count, they are just some biological byproduct of fucking.
So I want to start having kids in different countries.I would start in societies where is traditional to have multiple wives. Where the ideas of a group family is not frowned upon. Child support can be real. And I would check out the laws. If you do not have the girls for your group family on board it is not going to work. A quick google search will give you a lister countries to start working from.
Children do not mess up your lives. The mothers of those children do. It is a workable situation if handle your business correctly. Much success to you!
Aureliano16
11-29-23, 11:01
As offensive as some may see it, I think that seeking arrangements in many ways, laughably is one of the more honest ways that women interact with men.All your post was very interesting, but I particularly agree with this. It's also my opinion that seeking arrangement is fundamentally the most honest interaction between man and woman and most of the times both parties end up pretty happy with the deal.
How much is your net worth to attempt the multiple family path? How many "families" are you looking to have? Would you cycle through each home or you would not live permanently with any woman?
I was born originally in latin america, and what you suggest is basically the way of life of many of my ancestors. 3 or 4 generations ago you could not have sex without marrying first. So there were many men who married and divorced 4 or 5 times, and who had multiple children with each wife. Or they had an official wife with children, but also had many other children with mistresses out of marriage. Most of us have at least one ancestor who did this. It seems women actually genuinely love this "womanizer", multiple families attitude, and they didn't even receive any money out of it.
Now imagine the same but receiving money to take care of the children. I'm pretty sure many women in the world would be on board with it.
Hello! Around April / May this year I'll be travelling to South East Asia for 2 months (half the time for leisure and half for remote working). Since the work is remote, I can work from anywhere, so long as it has a relatively good and stable internet connection.
I want to use this opportunity to date around. On the weeks I work, I'll be busy during the day, but free at night. When travelling for leisure, I'll be free all day. My main objective is to date for an actual relationship, whilst my secondary objective is to hook up (but I see this more as a side benefit to genuinely dating). My third objective would be to make friends with locals / digital nomads.
From your experience, which countries and cities have good internet connections and strong dating prospects (ie. Have higher quality women in abundance)?
For context, I am a 37 yr old male, of asian decent and from Australia.
To be clear, I am not looking for paid dates or to see any sex workers.
I see my question has been asked here before but I also notice this thread isn't very active and my question might warrant an updated answer. Apologies if this isn't the correct place to post this.
Many thanks in advance.
I'm curious as to how this is going for you Elmer Fuddness. I'm about 12 months behind on a similar journey. Any insights since your post?
Thanks.
So originally I was really fascinated by the idea of having a house full of women, but about 10 minutes into Sister Wives, it became very clear the idea was totally idiotic. I like the sex and spreading my seed, but I definitely do not want to be dealing with more than one woman at home unless that woman occupies some near silent type position. More and more I realize that women truly are only interested in terms of a LTR some sort of financial arrangement. Overtly or covertly. As offensive as some may see it, I think that seeking arrangements in many ways, laughably is one of the more honest ways that women interact with men. I had a revelation of sorts with two different discussion points. The first was someone mentioning how women in poor countries, the money and power disparity is such that average western men essentially come into their lives like a billionaire comes through the life of a western woman. And then lastly, I saw someone talking about finding a woman who would want to travel with him, in exchange for sex. He was literally, seeking an arrangement. But then I thought about times were someone I knew did want to travel to me, and that much would be obvious and realized that was a woman seeking an arrangement.
So I made the red pill journey where you realize it's all sort of a sham and that for me really sort of destroyed the essence of what I think makes a family beautiful, but none the less, getting woken up with blowjobs and having a wife that can get a proper paycheck, it's not a bad setup. Regardless, I've devolved into pur firehose mode.
So I want to start having kids in different countries. The obvious first choice seems, to me at least, to be the Philippines. But I would love to hear more input. I'm basically looking for a country where the women have a more traditional way of looking at things, that culturally would be open to a father figure that isn't really in the picture all that much, but would be open to travel and some sort of loose arrangement. With the general idea that I could probably start 2-3 more families and see the mom and our kids a couple times a year and if the wife starts acting up, to pivot. Though she seems to be willing to play a strong defense. She said if any "fucking ***** is going to be in my house it better be some illegal so if she gives us any problems" LOL.
So I guess does anyone have any really terrible ideas to get started on so I can fuck up my life?
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