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Charlie Horse
12-26-06, 03:41
A popular one discussed in the forums is Black Beard's in Puerta Plata, Dominican Republic. It is supposed to have several in-house chicas as well as permitting guys to bring in their own from local clubs. I think it has a website, but I don't know its URL.http://www.blackbeardsadultresort.com/index.html
1. murep001
2. dubai
3. bankok
4. hongkong
5. manila
6. cyprus
7. perth
8. amsterdam
9. doha
10. colombo
11. istanbul
12. madrid
13. brussels
14. malaysia
15. singapore
16. mauritius
17. florida
18. athens
19. tanzania
20. prague
21. switzerland
22. germany
23. salzburg
24. beirut
i'm at girls from 32 different countries... may have forgotten a couple as well. i also am very much into variety... my current fascination is with girls from north africa, like moroccans. in my experience loving , passionate girls with no inhibitions... maybe not what one have expected from an islamic country... but i met all of them out of country, so don't know if that is part of the reason.
my last moroccan gf liked to put either honey or yoghurt on my rod and then lick it off in a really slurpy porno-esque sloppy blowjob. heaven.
missing from my personal collection are some of the world's hottest nationalities i have yet to bang:
japanese
abyssinian
mexican
swedish
iranian (but i did get iraq!)
it's just silly statistics, but only five girls have rated triple nines (looks, body, performance) on my list:
1 thai
2 russians
1 italian
1 georgian (the country on the black sea/caucasus)
the most exotic location-wise i have banged are probably:
chechnya
azerbaijan
kazakhstan
uzbekistan
iraq
trinidad and tobago
what about you?
Guys,
After opinions on the best places in Europe for street walkers, and just RLDs in general.
I've spent quite a bit of time in Frankfurt and think that has a great RLD, but after something new (and better). I'm not really interested in MPs etc, just general Street action.
Any thoughts and advice would be appreciated.
Double Nickle
01-14-07, 17:38
Guys,
After opinions on the best places in Europe for street walkers, and just RLDs in general.
I've spent quite a bit of time in Frankfurt and think that has a great RLD, but after something new (and better). I'm not really interested in MPs etc, just general Street action.
Any thoughts and advice would be appreciated.In 2005 I went on a Baltic cruise to Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Russia, Estonia, and Germany. Copenhagen, Denmark was a monger's paradise. I am 80% northern european so I fit in with the majority of the population and felt comfortable in all parts of the city. But Copenhagen is very cosmopolitan. Blacks and asians are significant minorities. Anybody of any ethnicity would probably do well there. Don't worry about speaking Danish. Pretty much everyone speaks English. The Istedgade, a street west of the railroad station, was one of the hottest red light districts around in the print pornography era. In this internet porn age it still has streetwalkers, massage, stripclubs, and sexshops to enjoy. I sampled Hungarian, Thai, and Danish women in the few days I was there. I was propositioned by a hot black streetwalker as well, but was too far from my hotel.
Forget Sweden. They value freedom except for free trade. No trading money for sex. I had a great tantric escort in Finland but paid well for it. In Saint Petersburg I got the best massage with handjob ever from a smoking hot nude blonde. It was very reasonable too. My taxi driver in Talinn, Estonia took me to a sauna with women where I got the works from a big titted russian woman. The FKK in Berlin didn't want to let me in. He pointed me to a bar a stone's throw away where I fucked two Bulgarians who were like energizer bunnies. Nobody in Saint Petersburg spoke English and few in the other countries, except Denmark.
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Hi guys,
Whats your point of view? What companies have the most hot looking air hostesses?
My hit list is:
1. Air Lanka
2. Emirates
3. Air France
Please share your ideas.
The topic of my post is closely related to the topic of this thread, namely the "Culture" of the country in regards to prostitution. Something that got me thinking was the following; is there such a thing as a "culture of prostitution" that makes it more likely for girls of a certain country to engage in this kind of activity. And I don't mean this in any politically incorrect kinda way. For example, there is, I've been told, a difference between Serbia and Romania because in the latter communism had much more destroyed Christian values than in the former. In other words, purely for historical, enviromental, reasons.
PS Not sure if this is the right place to put it, though.
i live in orlando, florida. i see you rank fl as 17. on what basis are you ranking? if you are talking about "the best women for str" as the title of the forum then i totally disagree. floridian women (majority american) are stuck up.
read this
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=558937#post558937
1. murep001
2. dubai
3. bankok
4. hongkong
5. manila
6. cyprus
7. perth
8. amsterdam
9. doha
10. colombo
11. istanbul
12. madrid
13. brussels
14. malaysia
15. singapore
16. mauritius
17. florida
18. athens
19. tanzania
20. prague
21. switzerland
22. germany
23. salzburg
24. beirut
Good morning gentlemen, Ezinho here, reporting form Quito, Ecuador. I wanted to address a topic that doesn't have it's own thread on this forum, but maybe it should. The topic I would like to discuss is "What Country has the best women at the *lowest prices* for STR?"
Now, I have read over many different country threads on this site, so I have a pretty good idea of what countries fit this requirement. I guess what I would like is to actually hear from other members, what their opinion is on what country has the best women at the lowest prices for STR. I know, for example...
*There are the 1 reais/min, 10 min minimum (about $5 USD for 10 min) places in Rio de Janeiro, been there, done that.
*That you can get women for under $3 USD at La Liñea in Guatemala City, but the selection is suppose to be horrible.
*That you can go to certain bars in Phnom Penh and get a short BJ for $1 USD.
I can go on and on, but all this info is available on the forum, just giving some examples.
So, to give you an idea, I'm looking for places like Ecuador, places where you can screw a hot girl for 10-15 minutes in a little room for $7 USD or less. I'm not talking about TLN, I'm not talking about GFE, all I'm looking for is a 15 minute quicky for $7 USD or less. Also, please keep in mind that it has to be safe, for example, you can't suggest a woman who works at a bus stop in Pyongyang, North Korea for 50 cents, since one may end up with a bullet to the head!
So lets' hear it, ISGers!
Asian Flava
02-27-07, 18:43
Granted I haven't flown the ones listed below but my top few would be:
1. Singapore Airlines
2. Thai Airways
Yes, I have a slight bias towards Asian women!
AF
Hi guys,
Whats your point of view? What companies have the most hot looking air hostesses?
My hit list is:
1. Air Lanka
2. Emirates
3. Air France
Please share your ideas.
Hi Ezinho,
The girl in pic "$7usdb".......is she from Quito or Rio ?
Did you post her before somewhere in the ISG?
If she was from Rio she would have bikini tan lines as that is the fashion there and ALL Rio girls have them.
Cheers.
As my header implies these are the countries that I have managed to monger in no consecutive order. By Florida, I ment Miami and I had a great time. As an American, what opinion you have about them is your point of view. I never had problems with females in Miami as well as in Orlando.
My next trip is due this month and I am still not decided on the destination Ethopia, South africa, Jakarta or Morocco.
Maybe someone can enlighten me.
I live in Orlando, Florida. I see you rank FL as 17. On what basis are you ranking? If you are talking about "the best women for STR" as the title of the forum then I totally disagree. Floridian women (majority American) are stuck up.
Read this
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=558937#post558937
Adelante Siempre
03-30-07, 08:24
We all know, unfortunately where mongering is strictly controlled or even outlawed.
By contrast, I am curious , which country or countries have the least amount of control over the sexual behavior of its people. Irregardless of looks or culture or short time versus long time consideration, which place on this mud ball has the least restricted sexual environment? Which one is the most libertine?
We all know, unfortunately where mongering is strictly controlled or even outlawed.
By contrast, I am curious , which country or countries have the least amount of control over the sexual behavior of its people. Irregardless of looks or culture or short time versus long time consideration, which place on this mud ball has the least restricted sexual environment? Which one is the most libertine?
I don't know which is the best but the US is certainly the worst! Last year there was a case of a teenaged boy being sentenced to 10 years in jail for receiving consensual oral sex form another teenaged girl. I read this morning that the attempts by his lawyers to have him released from jail were denied by the courts and the state legislature. The state in question is Georgia.
The lawyer said that almost every state in the country has laws covering seual behavior that if enforced rigourously would put almost EVERY teenage boy in jail. She (YES! SHE!) went on to state that as it was Friday, tonight there would be lots of illegal sexual activity going on among teenagers.
The better news is that as a result of this case, Georgia amended the law to make sex between consenting teenagers a misdemeaner rather than a felony. Still, the US is the only advanced developed country in the world where a 17 y.o. boy can go to a party, get a blow job froma 15 y.o. girl, and then get convicted of the sexual abuse of a child, be sentenced to 10 years in prison, and be put on the sex offender list.
You would think, because we are at war, that we would have more important priorities.
Adelante Siempre
03-31-07, 04:25
I don't know which is the best but the US is certainly the worst!
You would think, because we are at war, that we would have more important priorities.
Yes, you would have to go back pretty far in history to find an empire that had wasted its money so foolishly.
World War I was about overseas colonies and protecting empires. The result was that empires broke up as countries went broke.
World War II was about payback. You can only slaughter so many people before the rest start slaughtering you.
But the shit that's going on now is beyond belief.
Good morning gentlemen, Ezinho here, reporting form Quito, Ecuador. I wanted to address a topic that doesn't have it's own thread on this forum, but maybe it should. The topic I would like to discuss is "What Country has the best women at the *lowest prices* for STR?"
Now, I have read over many different country threads on this site, so I have a pretty good idea of what countries fit this requirement. I guess what I would like is to actually hear from other members, what their opinion is on what country has the best women at the lowest prices for STR. I know, for example...
*There are the 1 reais/min, 10 min minimum (about $5 USD for 10 min) places in Rio de Janeiro, been there, done that.
*That you can get women for under $3 USD at La Liñea in Guatemala City, but the selection is suppose to be horrible.
*That you can go to certain bars in Phnom Penh and get a short BJ for $1 USD.
I can go on and on, but all this info is available on the forum, just giving some examples.
So, to give you an idea, I'm looking for places like Ecuador, places where you can screw a hot girl for 10-15 minutes in a little room for $7 USD or less. I'm not talking about TLN, I'm not talking about GFE, all I'm looking for is a 15 minute quicky for $7 USD or less. Also, please keep in mind that it has to be safe, for example, you can't suggest a woman who works at a bus stop in Pyongyang, North Korea for 50 cents, since one may end up with a bullet to the head!
So lets' hear it, ISGers!There are the catacombs in CP, China. 30RMB ($5.50 USD)
There are cheap BJ/fs places in Saigon $20usd
I am sure you can find lotsa places that are al' cheapo. But like most things, everything comes at a price.
If you want you don't have time Thailand is the best place for sex. If you have time and you want sex for free China is best.
Sun rise
hi all,
any recommendations on a place that combines good lookin mongering and surfing in July? Panama & Peru were some places I looked at but was wondering if anyone had suggestions?
Dicks out
Jake Monger
04-26-07, 23:41
I live in Las Vegas, NV. While I certainly plan on doing at least one foreign trip this year, I think the good ol' USA is getting a bad rap on this topic. I have attached some pics of women in Vegas that you can spend time with for $150 USD or less, most are for at least an hour and include BBBJ. From the places I am considering traveling, it seems that around $50 USD is standard, which is of course a great deal. However, last time I checked, airfare is quite expensive, some hotels are not girl friendly, etc. I know I have an advantage since I live here, but there are also tons of opportunities for FREE hook ups from all sorts of horny women who come to Las Vegas to get away from it all.
The advantage the foreign countries have that Vegas does not is the ability to go into a bar, and have sexy young women begging you to take them back to your hotel. However, if you walk around certain areas of "The Strip" at night, you can experience that same feeling to a lesser degree.
Anyway, here are some pics, and keep this great topic going!
DJ FourMoney
04-28-07, 07:33
I live in Las Vegas, NV. While I certainly plan on doing at least one foreign trip this year, I think the good ol' USA is getting a bad rap on this topic. I have attached some pics of women in Vegas that you can spend time with for $150 USD or less, most are for at least an hour and include BBBJ. From the places I am considering traveling, it seems that around $50 USD is standard, which is of course a great deal. However, last time I checked, airfare is quite expensive, some hotels are not girl friendly, etc. I know I have an advantage since I live here, but there are also tons of opportunities for FREE hook ups from all sorts of horny women who come to Las Vegas to get away from it all.
The advantage the foreign countries have that Vegas does not is the ability to go into a bar, and have sexy young women begging you to take them back to your hotel. However, if you walk around certain areas of "The Strip" at night, you can experience that same feeling to a lesser degree.
Anyway, here are some pics, and keep this great topic going!
That depends I spent 3 days in Vegas getting my car worked on (MORE POWER!) and while it was up in the air, I spent time on the strip. It was OK... Some of my friends just "had" to hit JET inside the Mirage, I passed. They hooked up, but overall it was a "dry" run. I went to Pahrump and checked out Shari's, mostly because I have never been to such a place. To say I got "sticker shock" is an understatement.
I did start looking around for cheaper options, but I kinda gave up when I really couldn't make a choice and it was getting very late.
Yeah your chances at some woman visiting the city really trying to leave whatever happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas; does increase your chances ONLY SLIGHTLY. You still have to have "Game", you still have to basically make sure she's had a few to make it easier. I just can't bring myself to do that, I don't drink for one.
For those of you with lower morals than mine, you can liquor a girl up in Vegas and more than likely bag her if her friends aren't "cock blocking" or "throwing salt" in your game. Having a Wingman makes this MUCH easier...
Jelly Donut
04-28-07, 15:42
my pet-peeve on vegas. "what happens in vegas, stays in vegas". it's so funny to me, because it seems to me that there are probably more cameras on you in vegas than any other city in the world. and it's not like you magically step out of the american legal system when you arrive in las vegas. more people watching every move you make. they control the air you breath, adding o2 to keep you awake. and so on. it's the most "1984" of american cities. "what happens in vegas is extremely well-recorded, and may be used against you in a court of law".
still, jake monger i appreciate the pics and your experience in vegas. for most people the cost of getting to and staying in vegas is not going to be much different from traveling to some other countries. obviously, if you live there, you don't catch these costs.
but even with my flimsy moral character i've got to say i'm with the thrust of what dj is saying here. i've only been through vegas a couple of times, but from a p4p point-of-view, i'm not even sure it's a good deal by american standards for the str. obviously, you've had some good experiences, but you know the territory and have done the work. my experience was that the prices in vegas were higher than new york. an sw quoted $300 st - this was in 2001. that's the highest price we've ever recorded in donutland from an sw.
anyway, i hope i'm not coming off too negative - but in my experience, guys are better off going to montreal or the dominican republic if they want a quick flight for good strs.
hi all,
any recommendations on a place that combines good lookin mongering and surfing in July? Panama & Peru were some places I looked at but was wondering if anyone had suggestions?
Dicks out
How about Bali???
This discussion about Las Vegas is interesting. I have only been there once in my life, and was not at all impressed. Having said that, I don't gamble, so perhaps I'm biased in my opinion (the only kind of slots I like are between a woman's legs).
The way I see it, Vegas is a good example of big corporations hyping something up to the point that everyone wants to go there, but they have no reason why; because they saw some commercial on TV that told them to go. In addition, the guys I know that love to monger in Vegas are some of the biggest dumbasses I've ever met. These are guys that have no problem spending hundreds of dollars at strip clubs for nothing more than tame lap dances. I imagine that if I were a marketing executive for the City of Las Vegas tourism board, the most appropriate ad slogan would be "Vegas: the city for people with more money than brains".
Jake Monger, there's no doubt about it, the women you posted are hot. I'm assuming you got them off of Craigslist, maybe? Since you live there, I can understand you taking advantage of that, but you can find girls that look like that on Craigslist in ANY major city in the U.S., with the ST price running around the same price you mentioned. Sometimes some of these domestic models even run $100 for 15 min specials where I currently live. So I'm not sure why anyone would travel to Las Vegas for those women when they can just stay in their own city and get pretty much the same thing.
IMHO, if you must look for women in the U.S., I personally would recommend San Diego, CA. The city has a young, attractive population, good nightlife with many pick-up bars (Gaslamp district, for example) and if all else fails, you can make the 15 minute trip accross the border to TJ and release your tension into a $20 alley-girl. And to top it off, the weather is excellent; you don't have that damn 110 degree heat that you have in Vegas!
Jake Monger
04-28-07, 17:58
Hey Jelly and DJ,
Thanks for your comments. Yes, I guess I do have an advantage since I live here now, and have the time to do as much research as needed to find a good provider at a fair cost. I do remember when I was here as a tourist a few times, that sticker shock was a huge issue. However, that was before I knew about the American version of this board, which helped a lot. As for having a wingman, yes, that always helps in my opinion, and it doesn't matter if you are going after freebies or P4P. So I agree with both of you.
I have tried to find some professional fun in Cancun Mexico and the Bahamas, and did not have as much success as I would have liked. Of course, that was also before I discovered this forum, and I realize those are not the "hotspots" you should target when wanting to have some surefire fun overseas. That being said, I am STILL going to pay the airfare and hotel and do a foreign mongering trip this year to a "friendlier" area, and who knows, I may come back with a completely different feeling about Vegas! lol.
Take care out there.
Double Nickle
04-30-07, 23:33
... My experience was that the prices in Vegas were higher than New York. An SW quoted $300 ST - this was in 2001. That's the highest price we've ever recorded in donutland from an SW...In 2004 on the strip in Las Vegas about 5 AM a streetwalker asked me for $500 short time. She was sexy but far below showgirl quality. I told her I was looking for something around $200 and she just laughed.
In New York the most I've paid is $300 an hour FS, including TS and massage.
Double Nickle
Hi to all Las Vegas lovers.
yes las Vegas is very nice place at to have fun...I am visiting Las Vegas for last 6 years the only change which I noticed this year was that Hotels Have Non Smoking Areas specially food areas...rest you can smoke all over the place.
The scene in LV is great you can walk to your room with any partner male or female and no one will bother you.
Never try escort agency or printed material on the road side they all are fraud.
If you wan to have the great strip dance experience go to CRAZY HORSE. More than 50 Girls you can find at a time all top less. $20 Entry and you can touch and sit with Girl ..no extra money for girls no rip offs.
If you are really looking to lay with some one try hotel bars - All the bars in Las Vegas are open 24 hours they never close. Some times th are more females in BARS than MEN. All varsities you can find th. Never pay more than 150-250 US$ to a girl ..... Start from 150 and close the deal at 250 US...
I do not like to mention the name of the Hotels as all of them are good but I mention few.
Las Vegas Hilton - 3000 paradise road.
Monte Carlo
etc ...as I said all the hotels are GFE.
Be Careful - some times the girls pic up things from your hotel....never let this happen.
Bye Spark
Bango Cheito
06-18-07, 06:58
This was posted in the Quito thread but I think it belongs here.
The original link is: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=610256&postcount=964
Top Geographical Areas by Posts:
USA & Canada: 356,975
Asia: 186,364
South America (includes AP): 99,364
Europe: 64,558
Mexico & Central America: 33,359
Caribbean: 18,308
Middle East: 12,976
Africa: 6,966
Oceania: 4,366
Total posts without USA: 431,077
Total posts with USA: 783,236
Top Countries by Posts:
1. USA 352,159
2. Thailand 53,996
3. China 47,267
4. Argentina 42,470
5. Brazil 25,810
6. Malaysia 25,805
7. Mexico 21,997
8. Germany 17,500
9. Columbia 17,135
10. Philippines 16,902
11. United Arab Emirates 10,717
12. Dominican Republic 10,675
13. Indonesia 9,570
14. Russia 7,767
15. Peru 7,390
16. Japan 6,342
17. Ukraine 5,710
18. Costa Rica 5,530
19. India 5,441
20. South Korea 4,867
21. Canada 4,816
22. Czech Republic: 4,634
23. Turkey 3,541
24. Cuba 3,408
25. Singapore 3,392
26. Cambodia: 3,128
27. Sri Lanka 2,739
28. Vietnam 2,712
29. Spain 2,621
30. Lesser Antilles 2,437
31. Panama 2,426
32. UK 2,369
33. Ecuador 2,037
Bango Cheito
06-18-07, 07:03
Random thoughts: The first time I looked at the USA sex guide was tonight to see how many posts it had -- wtf?! Guys still buy pussy in the USA?! No wonder so many are broke, in debt and bankrupt! I was surprised to see Argentina at #4. You're telling me I just left the fourth hottest pussy destination in the world?! lol. Half -- or more -- are chicas from Paraguay. What the fuck is Malaysia doing at #6?! What the hell is in the United Arab Emirates?! Piper1 must singlehandedly sustain the UAE himself, accounting for 78% of the country's GDP. Comparing the juggernauts of population China at #3 is of interest while India sucks ass at #19. What are German girls doing to hit #8?! So much for French girls and French romance. Ultimately Ecuador ranks #33 worldwide. Hmmm, Tungurahua Inc. has a lot of marketing work to do to get to #1. I like a good challenge. Bring it on mofos!
-There are LOTS of what amount to ISO posts in the USA section, and not as much real activity. The difference is SHOCKING if you dig a little.
-The owner of the forum lives in Buenos Aires, that could have something to do with it. It IS apparently a real good destination though.
-The UAE is a well-known good place for paid sex as well. I'm surprised you didn't know that
-The German section is busy because of the FKK clubs which is according to some the best mongering experience in the world. Prostitution is legal in Germany and the FKKs have women from all over the Earth at a very reasonable price.
-France re-crimninalized prostitution in 1974 and shut down all the famous brothels. Apparently it hasn't been the same since.
Dave Sluds
07-04-07, 14:29
Hi guys,
I live in UK and in charge of organizing a 40th birth day for a single friend of mine. We are planning to travel to our destination on a Friday evening and return back on Sunday, so it needs to be close by, ie. Europe.
Planning to utilize escort agencies as we don't have much time.
What country do you recommend, and any other ideas on what to organize, venues, girls etc.
Thanks in advance.
All I can think of right now is Spain why here's the deal.
Location: Close to UK
Time: Less time to travel, more pussy
Cost: Reasonable prices
Accomodation: Lots of it try to go to Madrid, Barcelona etc.
Variety: Romanians, Russians, Colombians, Brazilians some asian and africans.
Just a recommendation. If you want real variety and time consuming places go to Amsterdam or Germany for their FKK clubs.
Cheers
Hi guys,
I live in UK and in charge of organizing a 40th birth day for a single friend of mine. We are planning to travel to our destination on a Friday evening and return back on Sunday, so it needs to be close by, ie. Europe.
Planning to utilize escort agencies as we don't have much time.
What country do you recommend, and any other ideas on what to organize, venues, girls etc.
Thanks in advance.
Vegas sucks for mongering. Once you have been to Thailand or Brazil, etc Vegas looks like your family dining place. Yeah the gambling, shows etc are all great but a real desert when it comes to freestyle mongering. Save your gambling money and fly to Brazil.
I live in Las Vegas, NV. While I certainly plan on doing at least one foreign trip this year, I think the good ol' USA is getting a bad rap on this topic. I have attached some pics of women in Vegas that you can spend time with for $150 USD or less, most are for at least an hour and include BBBJ. From the places I am considering traveling, it seems that around $50 USD is standard, which is of course a great deal. However, last time I checked, airfare is quite expensive, some hotels are not girl friendly, etc. I know I have an advantage since I live here, but there are also tons of opportunities for FREE hook ups from all sorts of horny women who come to Las Vegas to get away from it all.
The advantage the foreign countries have that Vegas does not is the ability to go into a bar, and have sexy young women begging you to take them back to your hotel. However, if you walk around certain areas of "The Strip" at night, you can experience that same feeling to a lesser degree.
Anyway, here are some pics, and keep this great topic going!
Having just spent a week in Vegas (and I spend about three weeks there a year), I can difinitively say that it is a desert in terms of mongering. The chicks are remarkably expensive (more expensive than the hometown), have really hardcore attitudes in general, and the few times that I have done p4p there, have received shitty service and an attempted rip-off. I did get one freebie this trip, but in general, one has to work their game very hard, and the ultimate costs are about the same as the local p4p.
I agree with Ezhino below about his comments regarding the superficial "advertised" freedom in Vegas. If you want to do something that will not get recorded or noticed by others, go somewhere else where the food, hotels, entertainment, and chicas are, cheaper, more satisfying, and more off the radar.
CBGBConnisur
08-15-07, 14:16
Germany is full of FKK brothels, probably the best Western European country for mongering. I would say Spain might be good for mongering as well, especially in the coastal areas. The US is a total waste of time for hobbying. The only decent action in North America is found in Montreal and Vancouver.
A lot of guys in America are morons, they would easily shell out hundreds of dollars on a lap dance for an average looking girl. Compare this with European men who expect a lot more and I know a few who got top service from genuine 9's and 10's only to walk out without paying a dime.
Craigslist is full of scammers and liars, and most of the time the pictures are fake. I never monger in the USA, and have not done so for nearly a decade. Once you try the service overseas you will never deal with American prostitutes again.
Portugal029
08-17-07, 17:02
i'm planning to make a trip alone in europe (and leave my girlfriend at home :P). Which is the best country for STR ? Which is the best country and city for flirting ? I'm 25 years old.
I've heard about ibiza, the girls are crazy there.
What is your opinion?
Thanks
Henri Dufresne
09-09-07, 11:43
Portugal029,
I guess it is too late, but Ibiza is not anymore the place.
Spain is not the best really.
You should fly EAST.
Lac Latan in hungary.
Find things close to Crimea in Ukrainia too.
It sounds that the new places to go.
Ibiza is too crowded. No action there. Lots of gays and hungry guys.
DJ FourMoney
09-14-07, 06:42
Germany is full of FKK brothels, probably the best Western European country for mongering. I would say Spain might be good for mongering as well, especially in the coastal areas. The US is a total waste of time for hobbying. The only decent action in North America is found in Montreal and Vancouver.
A lot of guys in America are morons, they would easily shell out hundreds of dollars on a lap dance for an average looking girl. Compare this with European men who expect a lot more and I know a few who got top service from genuine 9's and 10's only to walk out without paying a dime.
Craigslist is full of scammers and liars, and most of the time the pictures are fake. I never monger in the USA, and have not done so for nearly a decade. Once you try the service overseas you will never deal with American prostitutes again.
Co-sign -
After going myself and I should slap myself for even considering Nevada!
The only cheap mongering in the US is your local Eros web site but that is not affordable by any standard and many times your service will be rushed and subpar.
Your better off finding a fat chick much easier and more than likely cheaper.
You can find cheap pussy in Nevada but its past its due date and most freebie MILF's are much better looking.
If your going to monger, so it overseas it makes much more sense...
Dear Mongers
I will have two or three weeks spare in December and January and have the urge to travel afar and experience some of the local delights. I am a veteran of Asia, especially Thailand and parts of Europe (thanks Joy for your personal guidance in Poland).
I have RTFF many times and this is the first time I have actually asked for any help myself.
My question to fellow mongers IS where would you go apart from Thailand to experience the quality, GFE and costs that would be comparable to Thailand or even beat Thailand?
I would appreciate some guidance as I would like to dip my toe in other waters, but feel I have been spoilt a little bit by my experiences in Thailand and wonder whther any other place in the world could at least equal Thailand or even surpass it?
I am waiting to book my ticket from the UK so any guidance would be greatly appreciated
Maybe if you would tell us something about your taste in women and your mongering style, we could help you out.
One place to avoid is Argentina, especially Buenos Aires. It is very unsafe crime-wise and has a high rate of AIDS, plus the cops are total assholes and shake you down all the time. I was there recently and the women are totally stuck up and have no idea how to suck cock.
Maybe if you would tell us something about your taste in women and your mongering style, we could help you out.
One place to avoid is Argentina, especially Buenos Aires. It is very unsafe crime-wise and has a high rate of AIDS, plus the cops are total assholes and shake you down all the time. I was there recently and the women are totally stuck up and have no idea how to suck cock.
Dickhead
Thanks for the reply. I like SW's, freelancers, semi pros and Bar girls and I tend to avoid the go go bars, escort agencies and the more expensive side of things. I am a frequent visitor to Thailand and just wondered whether I have been spoilt by the scale of women available, the cheap prices and little or no hassle. I like younger girls in their early 20's late or teens but apart from that I am pretty open minded about looks etc.
If there is somewhere in the world that fellow mongers think can equal or better Thailand then I would like to know and I am prepared to travel. I have read the forums extensively and the only place I can see being a serious contender was the Phillipines. But it comes down a lot to people's personal experiences and if there is somewhere else I should try, please guys help me out.
Senor DH,
Amigo, you crack me and I mean that in a good way! It is really good to find you live and well, in a manner of speaking. We miss you in BsAs!
Chau!
By the way, I agree with everything the esteemed Richard Cranium says about Buenos Aires, nothing but ugly women with attitude!
Mortman, another thing that would be helpful to know is what languages you speak. That could make a big difference. I gather you speak Tagalog and Thai, and maybe Mandarin, but what else?
Mortman, another thing that would be helpful to know is what languages you speak. That could make a big difference. I gather you speak Tagalog and Thai, and maybe Mandarin, but what else?
Apart from the language of luuurrrve not much else. Surely there must be somewhere else in the world that can match the prices, availability and relaxed atmosphere for mongering that I have witnessed in PP and LOS? It is just that I and my friend fancied a complete change of scenery and we are willing to travel anywhere if it can match PP and LOS for mongering. Scenery, beaches, food and other things whilst important, will be secondary to the considerations I have already mentioned. If the worst comes to the worst (which is not all that bad at all) I will frequent my old regular haunts. I am becoming so familiar with BKK it is begining to feel like home.
You speak Mandarin so try Macau. They speak mostly Cantonese there but they will probably understand you. That place has some seriously beautiful women. My experience was in the casinos and the scene starts quite late. Prices are a bit high, though.
Macau was a Portuguese colony and is a polyglot mixture of Asian, Hispanic, East Indian and whatever horny sailor came to port. So, some of the women there look really unique and striking.
Other than mongering the place is a shit hole, though.
Ok here's my PERSONAL list of Top 5 list for STR. (with numba 1 being the best country for this activity)
1) Thailand
2)Ecuador
3)Colombia
4)Peru
5)Dom republic
Top 5 list of general costs including mongering,hotels,food etc...etc...with numba 1 being the cheapest.
1)Bolivia
2) Paraguay
3)Thailand
4)Colombia
5)Ecuador equaly with Brasil
My personal Top 5 with the most priciest countries (with 1 being the most expensive)
1)Japan
2)Russia
3)Iceland
4)The UK
5)Argentina equaly with Chile.
Ok guys thats my personal thoughts here.
cheers
Johan
Ok here's my PERSONAL list of Top 5 list for STR. (with numba 1 being the best country for this activity)
1) Thailand
2)Ecuador
3)Colombia
4)Peru
5)Dom republic
Top 5 list of general costs including mongering,hotels,food etc...etc...with numba 1 being the cheapest.
1)Bolivia
2) Paraguay
3)Thailand
4)Colombia
5)Ecuador equaly with Brasil
My personal Top 5 with the most priciest countries (with 1 being the most expensive)
1)Japan
2)Russia
3)Iceland
4)The UK
5)Argentina equaly with Chile.
Ok guys thats my personal thoughts here.
cheers
Johan
1_ Don't know about Ecuador but Brasil with 1,8 Reais to the dollar has become expensive.
2_ No way Argentina is the 5th more expensive country. It is still very cheap there. Even in Buenos Ayres.
Thanks
El Greco
You would think, because we are at war, that we would have more important priorities.Trouble is, the US (and allies) are not having enough casualties for them to think about other issues these days than getting men in jail for offences that would've been laughed off by the courts two decades ago.
Note that when it comes to practice, as opposed to theory, most muslim countries now have a less repressive sex climate than Western countries. The media makes a big show out of the plight of some women in countries such as Iran but the fact is that if you were a citizen of Iran, you wouldn't need to travel abroad to get good, cheap (unprotected!) sex with young women. Western man = dupe.
Henri Dufresne
12-02-07, 21:57
All of us are big travelers. In Europe, I traveled in France, Spain, Germany, Belgium, Uk (London and Cambridge), Ireland, Netherlands.
I noticed the same things in France, Spain, London and Ireland. Now in dance clubs there are no balance between girls and guys. I mean now in lots of places you got 11 guys and 2 girls. It was bit different in the UK (Cambridge) and Germany where there are more attractive girls going out. But now, I think it is useless to travel France, Spain, Belgium, Ireland, Netherlands, London if you want to pick up girls in danceclubs. I remembered I ve been to this place called the Fabrik in London. For fun, I was standing by the wall and counted the numbers of guys against the number of girls. I counted 11 guys and 2 girls in front of me. What can you do in these circumstances? You can be superman it is not enough. I mean the attractive girls for west europe they got chaperons to protect them. (I saw the case when I was in Madrid, I chatted a very attractive girl in Pacha, and a strong guy came to me, he looks very nervous, he was just here to make me fail.) Another time I was in a club in Amsterdam and some girls were dancing in circle. All around the girls I saw this picture of guys looking at the girls and there were all around the girls. (they didn't know the girls actually). I mean there are so many guys to go to nightclubs in West Europe, sometimes I wonder if all these clubs are now gay clubs
I talked about that with people from east Europe, russia, South America and they told me it is not the case in there own countries. I ll be happy for your opinion about this issue.
CBGBConnisur
12-04-07, 19:43
Males in Asian and Muslim countries probably have a lot more freedom to be males than those in Western countries today. Womens rights are unheard of in Asia and in the Muslim world, men in those countries tend to get their way with their women more than we do in the Western world. Its unheard of for an adult male in these societies to be unmarried and alone. Hence these countries are younger, have fast growing economies and will eventually dominate the world while the West collapses. Sound outrageous??!! Look at the gloomy economic outlook in the US and in Europe, this while developing countries continue to grow and prosper.
DJ FourMoney
12-21-07, 04:43
All of us are big travelers. In Europe, I traveled in France, Spain, Germany, Belgium, Uk (London and Cambridge), Ireland, Netherlands.
I noticed the same things in France, Spain, London and Ireland. Now in dance clubs there are no balance between girls and guys. I mean now in lots of places you got 11 guys and 2 girls. It was bit different in the UK (Cambridge) and Germany where there are more attractive girls going out. But now, I think it is useless to travel France, Spain, Belgium, Ireland, Netherlands, London if you want to pick up girls in danceclubs. I remembered I ve been to this place called the Fabrik in London. For fun, I was standing by the wall and counted the numbers of guys against the number of girls. I counted 11 guys and 2 girls in front of me. What can you do in these circumstances? You can be superman it is not enough. I mean the attractive girls for west europe they got chaperons to protect them. (I saw the case when I was in Madrid, I chatted a very attractive girl in Pacha, and a strong guy came to me, he looks very nervous, he was just here to make me fail.) Another time I was in a club in Amsterdam and some girls were dancing in circle. All around the girls I saw this picture of guys looking at the girls and there were all around the girls. (they didn't know the girls actually). I mean there are so many guys to go to nightclubs in West Europe, sometimes I wonder if all these clubs are now gay clubs
I talked about that with people from east Europe, russia, South America and they told me it is not the case in there own countries. I ll be happy for your opinion about this issue.
Let's see -
I was in Norway and one bar I went too in the city center of Bergen, was sausage city! Most of the girls were there with friends (male and female) and I am not the ONE to play Alpha Male and pluck a girl from the grasp of her friends.
I went to one of the better nightclubs (disco) and found the ratio about 2-1 in favor of the women.
I think this is normal for Western Europe. In Eastern Europe, yes it is mostly women out at night. Which puts more starch into the argument that the lack of available men that are suitable for long term relationships is not very high anywhere in Eastern Europe.
An awful lot of single ladies in those countries are not going to ever get married and have children and many of them are quite attractive.
Very interesting dynamic...
Seeking recommendation.
I have been to Colombia and Thailand. Now wanting to travel and see a few more nationalities.
Which is a better choice for STR (1) Germany FKK scene or (2) Buenos Aires or (3) Dubai or (4) Czechoslovakia
I live in the US and the following are my preferences:
1) Money not too much of a problem: USD 80 per 2hr session looks like a deal to me.
Do not want to spend more than USD 160 for the same. I am a single pop guy so I do not see the need for spending more. I do not enjoy coming more than once every 6 hrs or so.
2) I prefer good performance and attitude over age.
3) I am partial to blondes but attitude comes first.
4) I like to hang out with guys between sessions. So I do enjoy when I meet cool guys to have a beer with.
5) Tourism and good food are also a plus.
6) Airfare from Chicago, US is a consideration (Frankfurt costs US$300 and BA costs US$1000).
Any recommendations?
Don't come to Buenos Aires looking for blondes because you will only find some lame fake ones. Natural blondes are virtually non-existent here. I have met none in four years. None. Zero. The air fare to FKK might be cheaper but everything else will be way more expensive than BA. Especially taxis.
DJ FourMoney
12-29-07, 12:41
Seeking recommendation.
I have been to Colombia and Thailand. Now wanting to travel and see a few more nationalities.
Which is a better choice for STR (1) Germany FKK scene or (2) Buenos Aires or (3) Dubai or (4) Czechoslovakia
I live in the US and the following are my preferences:
1) Money not too much of a problem: USD 80 per 2hr session looks like a deal to me.
Do not want to spend more than USD 160 for the same. I am a single pop guy so I do not see the need for spending more. I do not enjoy coming more than once every 6 hrs or so.
2) I prefer good performance and attitude over age.
3) I am partial to blondes but attitude comes first.
4) I like to hang out with guys between sessions. So I do enjoy when I meet cool guys to have a beer with.
5) Tourism and good food are also a plus.
6) Airfare from Chicago, US is a consideration (Frankfurt costs US$300 and BA costs US$1000).
Any recommendations?
Common sense should have kicked in somewhere around number #3
Where do you expect to find Blonds in a Latin country? Granted Brazil and Argentina have had more than its share of European settlers, but their simply aren't than many "natural" blonds, several "bottle" however.
Of course its cheaper to go to Germany in the dead of Winter in the Northern Hemisphere, South America is going to be expensive from now until around May or so. C'mon man you just NOW learning to travel internationally??
Bargin Hunters know -
For cheap rates:
Europe in the Winter
South America durinig our Summer (Rainy Season)
And Asia-Pacific is expensive period because of the long plane flight...
I vote for Germany because you want blond (plenty of Eastern Euro booty and German blonds to choose from) and its fairly reasonable. Eros Center for cheap and quick service, FKK's for extended sessions and hmmm, you can try "freebies" and see where that gets you.
Dress WARM
Bango Cheito
12-29-07, 21:22
Plenty of blondes in Bogota and Medellin, and in the south of Brazil. But they are still a minority, albeit a big one.
Seeking recommendation.
I have been to Colombia and Thailand. Now wanting to travel and see a few more nationalities.
Which is a better choice for STR (1) Germany FKK scene or (2) Buenos Aires or (3) Dubai or (4) Czechoslovakia
I live in the US and the following are my preferences:
1) Money not too much of a problem: USD 80 per 2hr session looks like a deal to me.
Do not want to spend more than USD 160 for the same. I am a single pop guy so I do not see the need for spending more. I do not enjoy coming more than once every 6 hrs or so.
2) I prefer good performance and attitude over age.
3) I am partial to blondes but attitude comes first.
4) I like to hang out with guys between sessions. So I do enjoy when I meet cool guys to have a beer with.
5) Tourism and good food are also a plus.
6) Airfare from Chicago, US is a consideration (Frankfurt costs US$300 and BA costs US$1000).
Any recommendations?
Prague. Fullstop.
Dubai is nice but really expensive: $250-3?? for the night(2-4hrs) from the nice hotels. No short-term action is really avail. Many girls also won't go with you unless you are staying in a 4-5 star hotel. I stayed in a $100 a night joint on K-Port road (maybe it was called the K-port inn) and some girls all voiced initial opposition to going back with me.
I've never been to BA and would love to go. Good luck. You won't go wrong with any of these locales.
Don't come to Buenos Aires looking for blondes because you will only find some lame fake ones. Natural blondes are virtually non-existent here. I have met none in four years. None. Zero. The air fare to FKK might be cheaper but everything else will be way more expensive than BA. Especially taxis.DH I've known several though I will concede they're the minority. They're seem to be more prevalent in provincial cites (excluding far north) such as Cordoba and Mar del Plata. Many in MDP.
I am speaking specifically of Buenos Aires city or GBA at any rate. Probably I should have been specific since Buenos Aires could mean three things: the city, zona contraurbano or whatever the official name for greater Buenos Aires is, or the whole fucking province all the way down to the Río Negro. I never extended my statement to other provinces. Plenty of blondes in Entre Rios from German immigration. I have heard the same for Misiones but I haven't been there. Córdoba I did not notice blonds in large quantities but the women there are taller. Overall I would say Córdoba has the best looking women of anywhere I've been in Argentina, which is about half the country.
But that is why your name is Moore. Anything anyone else has done, you have done Moore of it. Moore traveling, Moore mongering, Moore pussy, and you earned Moore money doing it. So it stands to reason you would have met Moore blonds down here than I have.
Hey, you remember that photo you posted of that chica with the dildo up her ass? I have that as my screen saver right now. The chicas really hate it.
Moore power to you. I wouldn't expect anything less than a sarcastic reply.
Of course I remember the photo. Years(?) later I still sometimes get pms asking what apartment that girl can be found in. ;)
Happy New Year
Moore
Moore power to you. I wouldn't expect anything less than a sarcastic reply.
Of course I remember the photo. Years(?) later I still sometimes get pms asking what apartment that girl can be found in. ;)
Happy New Year
MooreOh please point me to this pic posting.
Gary Groundwork
01-19-08, 15:45
Best places for STR:
Thailand and Rio
My toplist for EUROPE :
1) Russia
2) Moldova
3) Ukraine
4) Latvia
5) Czech Republic
6) Cyprus
7) Poland
8) Switzerland
9) Italy
10) France
Steven Jones
03-01-08, 22:22
Shenzen is amazing, cheap, and beautiful!
Hong Kong is cool too, as is Macau if you fancy paying a little more for a better service.
If you want blondes, there are plenty in every city in the US. Why would you want to spend a sh!tload of money traveling to a foreign country to find one, when you can pick one up any anywhere in the US? You can call any escort agency in the US and request a blonde. Trust me, there is at least one natural blonde employed by every escort agency in the US available at any time. You being American, you should know that, unless you haven't made any use of escort agencies here before.
Seeking recommendation.
I have been to Colombia and Thailand. Now wanting to travel and see a few more nationalities.
Which is a better choice for STR (1) Germany FKK scene or (2) Buenos Aires or (3) Dubai or (4) Czechoslovakia
I live in the US and the following are my preferences:
1) Money not too much of a problem: USD 80 per 2hr session looks like a deal to me.
Do not want to spend more than USD 160 for the same. I am a single pop guy so I do not see the need for spending more. I do not enjoy coming more than once every 6 hrs or so.
2) I prefer good performance and attitude over age.
3) I am partial to blondes but attitude comes first.
4) I like to hang out with guys between sessions. So I do enjoy when I meet cool guys to have a beer with.
5) Tourism and good food are also a plus.
6) Airfare from Chicago, US is a consideration (Frankfurt costs US$300 and BA costs US$1000).
Any recommendations?
You're right, CBGBConnisur, about American men being morons easily shelling out hundreds, sometimes thousands of dollars for lap dancing only. Then, they might shell out like between $200-500 more for a fuckin BBBJ! I know strippers that make fun of them all the time. Escort agencies are equally as expensive, even independant escorts are outrageous. The only cheap sex that you can get for money in the US, is if you want to take the risk of fucking a crack *****. Then, you not only have to worry about robbery, but you also have to seriously consider that 9 out of 10 of them are more than likely HIV+ in the first place. You can get a BBBJ from crack *****s in the US for $5, no joke!
Germany is full of FKK brothels, probably the best Western European country for mongering. I would say Spain might be good for mongering as well, especially in the coastal areas. The US is a total waste of time for hobbying. The only decent action in North America is found in Montreal and Vancouver.
A lot of guys in America are morons, they would easily shell out hundreds of dollars on a lap dance for an average looking girl. Compare this with European men who expect a lot more and I know a few who got top service from genuine 9's and 10's only to walk out without paying a dime.
Craigslist is full of scammers and liars, and most of the time the pictures are fake. I never monger in the USA, and have not done so for nearly a decade. Once you try the service overseas you will never deal with American prostitutes again.
Hi,
I am a big brazil fan, but in the mood for something else. So I am planning my first mongering trip to Asia later this year.
Which countries / cities are the best places to visit for a sampling of the finest women Asia has to offer?
I will only stay in each location for a few days so I am only interested in P4P and not dating, flirting and not having sex. Money is not a problem.
All ideas welcome.
Junior
Jayagopal50
03-15-08, 01:24
I have been to Myanmmar, Laos, Indonesia, Cambodia, Thailand and singapore. [not to China]
Best organised safe with daytime soapies = Pattaya
Best legal cute and cheap=Yangon [difficult to get to]
Best variety organised safe = Jakarta brothels
Best WESTERN like atmosphere Singapore [pricey]
DJ FourMoney
04-01-08, 11:56
I have been to Myanmmar, Laos, Indonesia, Cambodia, Thailand and singapore. [not to China]
Best organised safe with daytime soapies = Pattaya
Best legal cute and cheap=Yangon [difficult to get to]
Best variety organised safe = Jakarta brothels
Best WESTERN like atmosphere Singapore [pricey]
Check it out - http://www.linktv.org/programs/spot_virgintrade
Link is very liberal I wouldn't worry about some mainstream fallout from this...
Silent Thoughts
04-27-08, 22:09
Hi,
I am a big brazil fan, but in the mood for something else. So I am planning my first mongering trip to Asia later this year.
Which countries / cities are the best places to visit for a sampling of the finest women Asia has to offer?
I will only stay in each location for a few days so I am only interested in P4P and not dating, flirting and not having sex. Money is not a problem.
All ideas welcome.
JuniorHi,
You been a Brazilian fan ,and for me i have been an Asian one with aspiration to travel to Brazil soon.
As far as mongering is concerned Thailand ( Bangkok and Pattaya) remain the unquestionable King of the Asian continent with phillipines giving a close chase . If you want a good experience and u are into variety with safety and choice in mind hop over to any of these countries. There is more p4p then what u can imagine or ask for.
As Jayagopal has said i completely agree with him on the labellings and to add a few places , hong kong is very easy to get p4p with good variety ( knowing cantonese helps) and Macau provides some real good p4p as well. China thread shows a lot of scope there as well ,however havent had personal experience so would not be able to comment.
One place u gotta miss out on is India( yeah my homeland) cause p4p is ridiculously expensive as well as a tormentous experience as well . However the place is beautiful for a vaccation but not what u are looking for. Singapore is pricey but has a kool air about it and is like the rest of the teeny weeny country..very organized and safe.
Have a nice trip and enjoy safe mongering. Do remember to post your experience on the board.
Regards,
Silent Thoughts
Epicurien2
05-07-08, 12:48
Hello, guys
With the huge value of euro against US dollar, I'm looking for country where US dollar is accepted in the p4p field. (not speaking of usa)
I already know Cambodia, do you have others?
Hi Guys,
Please recommend me a country to go to this summer Jul-2008 giving the following:
Duration: 10 days
Close to: Bahrain - up to 7 hours flight
Budget: USD 5,000 including hotel
Safety: Very safe
Preferred girls: European or African
I am familiar with Asian and Dubai seen please recommend other counteries with a promise to report back on my trip.
Thank you in advance.
Jblack
Dutchie525
05-12-08, 13:33
Hello, guys
With the huge value of euro against US dollar, I'm looking for country where US dollar is accepted in the p4p field. (not speaking of usa)
I already know Cambodia, do you have others?
I would suggest Sosua in the Dominican Republic. Flights from USA to Puerto Plata, from take take a taxi to Sosua.
Also Medellin or Cali in Colombia are options.
Epicurien2
05-14-08, 15:41
I would suggest Sosua in the Dominican Republic. Flights from USA to Puerto Plata, from take take a taxi to Sosua.
Also Medellin or Cali in Colombia are options.Thanks for the answer, but I'm an european guy and I was asking where can I go to make my euros be a huge value due to dollar down.
Hello, guys
With the huge value of euro against US dollar, I'm looking for country where US dollar is accepted in the p4p field. (not speaking of usa)
I already know Cambodia, do you have others?
Ecuador, Panama and El Salvador all use the U.S. dollar as their official currency. Check out those individual threads for more info.
I think a couple countries in the Caribbean use USD as well, not sure which ones though, you'd have to research that.
I also read somewhere that East Timor uses USD, but I'm not sure about that. And I'm not sure why anyone would monger there, for that matter!
Gfe Finder
05-15-08, 03:40
St. Martin is one island in the Caribbean that generally uses dollars. Supposedly the French side is more hesitant to take dollars however a.) the brothels are all on the Dutch side and b.) I personally never had a problem using dollars on the French side.
Ecuador, Panama and El Salvador all use the U.S. dollar as their official currency. Check out those individual threads for more info.
I think a couple countries in the Caribbean use USD as well, not sure which ones though, you'd have to research that.
I also read somewhere that East Timor uses USD, but I'm not sure about that. And I'm not sure whay anyone would monger there, for that matter!
Thanks for the answer, but I'm an european guy and I was asking where can I go to make my euros be a huge value due to dollar down.
Several Caribbean countries peg their currency to the US dollar. The exchange benefit euros have with them is the same as it is with the US dollar. Barbados, Bahamas, Netherlands Antilles (Aruba, Curacao, Bonaire, and 3 others) are some that I know.
Curacao has the famous Campo Alegre. 50 florins, or 28 US dollars, gets 30 minutes with a chica in her cabine. At $1.50 per euro, that is about 21 euros.
I would like to know current opinion for the best places in the world for mongering/p4p, based on the following criteria:
1. Quality of girls (ie. looks, friendly, GFE, FS, etc.)
2. Quantity of girls (ie. from many countries, big, small, etc.)
3. Ease of Use (ie. are the places clean, organised, legal, etc.)
4. Price
Given the criteria above and from personal experience, I would say:
1. Any German FKK
2. Any Macau sauna
3. Pattaya, Thailand
Benefactor
05-30-08, 11:44
The best places in the world for mongering/p4p, based on the following criteria:
1. Quality of girls (ie. looks, friendly, GFE, FS, etc.)
2. Quantity of girls (ie. from many countries, big, small, etc.)
3. Ease of Use (ie. are the places clean, organised, legal, etc.)
4. Price
Given the criteria above and from personal experience, I would say:
1. Bangkok, Thailand
2. Pattaya, Thailand
3. Mombasa, Kenya
what is the best place to go for cheap sex? I have been to Pattaya, but that is the only place. I want to go somewhere for a month or two. I dont want to spend much on motels or food. I dont really want sex every day, maybe once or twice a week. Any place in south america sound good.
I know I should rtff, but I was hoping for a few leads on where to concentrate my time
thanks
I was searching for a place in Eastern Europe to visit for strictly a pussy run. After independent research. I have came to the conclusion the German FKK is the place to go in Europe for a guy such as myself. Yes I know it’s not EE. After seeing photo after photos of beauties from EE I was transfixed and of course I wanted to exploit the economic situation. After the countries I researched I came up with this (keep in mind I have not visited any but through my research this is what I came up with):
Belarus: Corrupt crime, P4p scene damn near non existent.
Czech Republic: Expensive, over saturated with Joe-Blows
Kazakhstan: Visa restrictions, Shady locals.
Moldova: No p4p scene, Girls are kind of shady, Reluctant to hook up with short time visitors.
Romania: Corruption, Crime, unfriendly locals.
Russia: Skinheads, Corruption.
Ukraine: Skinheads, Expensive p4p scene and not clear cut.
I am not worried about money at all but I just can’t see myself paying 500 Euros a night for some ass. My thirst for some women of the European white variety is growing ever present after spending most of my time in Dubai and the orient. There are many white European WGs in Dubai but sadly a lot of them now show racial favor. It wasn’t like that about 3 three years I have no idea what the fuck happened?
DJ FourMoney
08-30-08, 09:15
I was searching for a place in Eastern Europe to visit for strictly a pussy run. After independent research. I have came to the conclusion the German FKK is the place to go in Europe for a guy such as myself. Yes I know it’s not EE. After seeing photo after photos of beauties from EE I was transfixed and of course I wanted to exploit the economic situation. After the countries I researched I came up with this (keep in mind I have not visited any but through my research this is what I came up with):
Belarus: Corrupt crime, P4p scene damn near non existent.
Czech Republic: Expensive, over saturated with Joe-Blows
Kazakhstan: Visa restrictions, Shady locals.
Moldova: No p4p scene, Girls are kind of shady, Reluctant to hook up with short time visitors.
Romania: Corruption, Crime, unfriendly locals.
Russia: Skinheads, Corruption.
Ukraine: Skinheads, Expensive p4p scene and not clear cut.
I am not worried about money at all but I just can’t see myself paying 500 Euros a night for some ass. My thirst for some women of the European white variety is growing ever present after spending most of my time in Dubai and the orient. There are many white European WGs in Dubai but sadly a lot of them now show racial favor. It wasn’t like that about 3 three years I have no idea what the fuck happened?
I don't either... FKK's are your best bet, based on personal experience.
With THAT said, with a little time invested, Scandinavia isn't a bad place to be and neither is Germany or the UK for that matter...
I don't either... FKK's are your best bet, based on personal experience.
With THAT said, with a little time invested, Scandinavia isn't a bad place to be and neither is Germany or the UK for that matter...
Agree that FKK's are a very good bet unless you want the "total" experience of being in the location and culture that is EE. That does tend to enhance the trip experience for some, but not others.
Finally, add in the seemingly now much more prevalent FKK EE 'bonus'.
In Prague as but one example, service offerings have slipped badly, with BBBJ and DFK become rarer and rarer unless with very high surcharges. The same Czech girls arriving at FKK's immediately up their game to meet the demands and needs of the local FKK market. BBBJ and DFK often provided depending upon the club and much less the girl as an obligatory starter set for the traditional Euro 50 per half hour.
You can add the same thing for Bulgaria as another example of the FKK 'bonus'.
Airfares to Germany are often on reduced prices and a much greater assortment of Hotel pricing can usually provide accomodation for Mongers of all budgets.
So there is a lot of mileage left in the FKK model. Tipping is a relative rarity among German Customers at FKK's and visiting mongers should follow local custom. The FKK tip is to extend the session with a good performer or book her again with a smile during the day, or on follow-up days.
"If God had wanted mongers to remain celibate, He would not have invented FKK's"
DJ FourMoney
08-30-08, 10:18
Agree that FKK's are a very good bet unless you want the "total" experience of being in the location and culture that is EE. That does tend to enhance the trip experience for some, but not others.
Finally, add in the seemingly now much more prevalent FKK EE 'bonus'.
In Prague as but one example, service offerings have slipped badly, with BBBJ and DFK become rarer and rarer unless with very high surcharges. The same Czech girls arriving at FKK's immediately up their game to meet the demands and needs of the local FKK market. BBBJ and DFK often provided depending upon the club and much less the girl as an obligatory starter set for the traditional Euro 50 per half hour.
You can add the same thing for Bulgaria as another example of the FKK 'bonus'.
Airfares to Germany are often on reduced prices and a much greater assortment of Hotel pricing can usually provide accomodation for Mongers of all budgets.
So there is a lot of mileage left in the FKK model. Tipping is a relative rarity among German Customers at FKK's and visiting mongers should follow local custom. The FKK tip is to extend the session with a good performer or book her again with a smile during the day, or on follow-up days.
"If God had wanted mongers to remain celibate, He would not have invented FKK's"
I couldn't agree more. If your goal is to bang White Women, an FKK is where you should go. Moscow is overpriced for what you get and the issues with getting into the country.
I never understood people going to an FKK to bang Latinas or Africans, when going to Africa is cheap from Europe and going to Latina countries like Argentina is fairly affordable and cheap when compared to fucking for profit at home.
I would go to an FKK in Europe because the going rate for legal pussy in Nevada is outragous, $600-700 at Sherri's Ranch?? Holy Cow!
In the off season you can fly to Berlin or Frankfurt for $600 (from the west coast). Convertering Euro into dollars, a typical FFK visit cost me at today's exchange rate - $147 per session, usually one hour because I would cum inside of 10-15 mins because of lack of sexual activity.
I wouldn't count airfare as part of the overall cost because your "freebie" quest should be alot different than back at home and if you have a certain amount of success at home, then you can expect the same in Europe with less nonsense involved.
You could easily go for a week and spend maybe $1500 total, especially if your near an RLD like in Frankfurt. I actually got tired of fucking so much, really. Stay in a hostel for cheap, so what if you have to share a room, all you need is a place to sleep and maybe check your email if you have a laptop, most have WiFi.
RLD fucks for 15-20 mins is 30 Euro, very non GFE though.
There are I think 3 major FKK's in Frankfurt-Main. I'm going to go to Berlin next time. Because its not the business/financial center Frankfurt is, it tends to be a bit cheaper for accommodations and the like. Its "scene" depends more on private houses, than FKK's however.
In my opinion the EE is strictly for people that do business over there. Your only other reason to be there is to find a wife and that's it.... If your the artisty fartesy type I guess you could get a hard-on for all the old buildings and culture and to be honest I find what has happen to these people while under Soviet rule quite interesting, but you need to talk to the people about that, you won't find it in American history books and that's possibly enough to go without being soely focused on your dick.
I'm discovering I need a fluent English speaker and those women in the EE are coveted and in high demand for the men that are interested in them.
Oh well, I'm going off topic but you get the idea...
Greetings all,
I am a frequent visitor to South America and am completely in love with brazilian women, however after many great trips there I have now decided to give Asia a try.
So I am interested in opinions suggestions as to where I should go.
Some facts:
* I prefer clean high end activities with very attractive women.
* Price is not a big concern.
* Looking to stay 3-4 days in each place.
* Must be reachable by air (and no funny or risky airlines, please)
* Quality, girl-friendly hotel is also a must.
* Access to interesting non-monger actitivites a plus (nature, golf, etc...)
* Trip will be in january.
Best regards,
Junior
Greetings all,
I am a frequent visitor to South America and am completely in love with brazilian women, however after many great trips there I have now decided to give Asia a try.
So I am interested in opinions suggestions as to where I should go.
Some facts:
* I prefer clean high end activities with very attractive women.
* Price is not a big concern.
* Looking to stay 3-4 days in each place.
* Must be reachable by air (and no funny or risky airlines, please)
* Quality, girl-friendly hotel is also a must.
* Access to interesting non-monger actitivites a plus (nature, golf, etc...)
* Trip will be in january.
Best regards,
Junior
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Thailand/Singapore
Naked Gunz
09-06-08, 20:32
Greetings all,
I am a frequent visitor to South America and am completely in love with brazilian women, however after many great trips there I have now decided to give Asia a try.
So I am interested in opinions suggestions as to where I should go.
Some facts:
* I prefer clean high end activities with very attractive women.
* Price is not a big concern.
* Looking to stay 3-4 days in each place.
* Must be reachable by air (and no funny or risky airlines, please)
* Quality, girl-friendly hotel is also a must.
* Access to interesting non-monger actitivites a plus (nature, golf, etc...)
* Trip will be in january.
Best regards,
Junior
You won't get the big bodies you get in Brazil( big bunda, tits) in Asia, which on prefer in women. Thai women are very pretty, but thier great diets lead to little girl bodies, which is kinda perv attraction to me.
Pattaya offers the greatest monger playground to me: golf ,scuba, some shopping and thousands of girls. Singapore is like being home with open monger and non-pro opportunities.
Non-language barrier in Phils makes being there way easier, and the talent is no joke either. Pinay women usually deliver the goods in a big way, esp if they like you or there is promise for big returns down the line.
Have fun!
Member #4167
09-24-08, 19:05
What's the best country for STR in Latin America ?
Here's my criteria:
1. City on the Coast
2. Lighter skinned women ( white/mestizo/indian)
3. Pretty, slender women 18 - 29
4. Low prices
5. Good Service
Of the following list, what's the best country ?
Belize
Colombia
Cuba
DR
Honduras
Mexico
Nicaraugua
Panama
Venezuela
DJ FourMoney
09-29-08, 10:31
You won't get the big bodies you get in Brazil( big bunda, tits) in Asia, which on prefer in women. Thai women are very pretty, but thier great diets lead to little girl bodies, which is kinda perv attraction to me.
Pattaya offers the greatest monger playground to me: golf ,scuba, some shopping and thousands of girls. Singapore is like being home with open monger and non-pro opportunities.
Non-language barrier in Phils makes being there way easier, and the talent is no joke either. Pinay women usually deliver the goods in a big way, esp if they like you or there is promise for big returns down the line.
Have fun!
Singapore looks interesting....
I do want to hang out in these countries and I would like to hit up the Macu Grand Prix too. I love the World Touring Car Championship...
Bango Cheito
10-01-08, 08:34
In Latin America the closer you get to the coast, the darker the women get in general. Probably your best option is Buenos Aires, if not your ONLY option.
What's the best country for STR in Latin America ?
Here's my criteria:
1. City on the Coast
2. Lighter skinned women ( white/mestizo/indian)
3. Pretty, slender women 18 - 29
4. Low prices
5. Good Service
Of the following list, what's the best country ?
Belize
Colombia
Cuba
DR
Honduras
Mexico
Nicaraugua
Panama
Venezuela
Buenos Aires is not on the coast but it has all those other things. But since I know Water Boy and he's been there many times, I don't really know why he's even posting this. Lima, Peru is on the coast and so is Valparaiso, Chile. Valparaiso is a really interesting place and there's lots of P4P there but the prices aren't really very low.
CBGBConnisur
10-13-08, 02:46
Many Brazilian women are white. I heard about 60 percent of the country is white or mixed white. Most of the ones I have seen in my city are European looking.
Best looking woman I ever saw in my life, and I have extremely high standards, had a caramel bronze skin complexion. She was mixed race.
I am some how hooked to scoring black females. They appeal to me and I find them pretty more GFE than others. I have tried blacks in Tanzania, Mumbasa and Brazil.
Any new mongering experiences. I believe that Ethopians are very pretty , but in Addis they have a strict no BJ policy
Member #4167
10-14-08, 11:30
Buenos Aires is not on the coast but it has all those other things. But since I know Water Boy and he's been there many times, I don't really know why he's even posting this. Lima, Peru is on the coast and so is Valparaiso, Chile. Valparaiso is a really interesting place and there's lots of P4P there but the prices aren't really very low.I have never been to BA.
Blackpmike
10-14-08, 11:37
I am some how hooked to scoring black females. They appeal to me and I find them pretty more GFE than others. I have tried blacks in Tanzania, Mumbasa and Brazil.
Any new mongering experiences. I believe that Ethopians are very pretty , but in Addis they have a strict no BJ policyI agree with you - I find the babes from Zambia and the congo so apealling and wicked for GFE. I have had the pleasure of some Moz. babes and they are a very close third in my books.
All this talk I think I'm going out tonight and eat some black pie.
I have never been to BA.
Must be someone on that forum with the same name or maybe it's Waterboy without a space. Heavyset black guy who is in the Reserves.
Jayagopal50
10-19-08, 14:45
I am wondering in which countries other than Brazil, Anal is accepted as part of "customer satisfaction". I could not get any Chinese girl to agree even thought some of them had a loose sphincter on fingering.
I am wondering in which countries other than Brazil, Anal is accepted as part of "customer satisfaction". I could not get any Chinese girl to agree even thought some of them had a loose sphincter on fingering.
I have had anal with Dominican and Colombian women. Though I would not say that it is guaranteed with every GDP in those countries.
It is impossible in the English-speaking Caribbean.
I suspect that in some African countries many women will open their sphincters for you if you show them enough money. I am certain, based on my experience there, that they will refuse if you talk abut it first outside the bedroom. But in private, seeing the cash, I am pretty sure many will bend over and take it.
I have not mongered in Europe, but I am told anal is widely available.
I am wondering in which countries other than Brazil, Anal is accepted as part of "customer satisfaction". I could not get any Chinese girl to agree even thought some of them had a loose sphincter on fingering. Many young arab girls want to be virgin at marriage, so they commonly perform oral and anal sex with their boyfriends. I had a North-African girlfriend at University, when I was 20 yo, and she explained this to me.
BB.
Buenos Aires is not on the coast
??? Where do you get that idea? Maybe check a map. I've sailed from BA. Water+Land - yep, definitely 'coast' ;-)
A rather limited list . . . But for your criteria, I'd say Brasil wins hands down . . .
What's the best country for STR in Latin America ?
Here's my criteria:
1. City on the Coast
2. Lighter skinned women ( white/mestizo/indian)
3. Pretty, slender women 18 - 29
4. Low prices
5. Good Service
Of the following list, what's the best country ?
Belize
Colombia
Cuba
DR
Honduras
Mexico
Nicaraugua
Panama
Venezuela
??? Where do you get that idea? Maybe check a map. I've sailed from BA. Water+Land - yep, definitely 'coast' ;-)
Buenos Aires is maybe 60 miles (?) upriver from the Atlantic Ocean on the Rio de la Plata.
Definitely not "on the coast". ;)
Jayagopal50
10-20-08, 23:12
Many young arab girls want to be virgin at marriage, so they commonly perform oral and anal sex with their boyfriends. I had a North-African girlfriend at University, when I was 20 yo, and she explained this to me.
BB.I was at marrkesh and casablanca 2 times and found that local hangoutatHyatt were risky as too much security. However I found their dancing very sexy and would love to explore their rear ends. The one Morrocan girl in BKK did not offer greek. What about getting Arab girls outside the dangerous Mid-east which place to go to?
Bango Cheito
10-20-08, 23:51
Well if it's close enough for the poster to be considered "on the coast" I'd count it in. Basically for what he's looking for, it's BA, Punto del Este, Florianopolis, etc.
ManonsanBoy
10-23-08, 22:51
I travel a lot because I am retired and just manage my savings. I bailed out of the market in March 2008 so most of my money is intact. This year, I have visited or returned to Malaysia, Indonesia, Philippines, USA, Canada, UK, Czech republic, Spain, Macao, Thailand, Singapore, Australia.
This is my list of best mongering places for a 50 something chap who needs viagra sometimes (I try without but 1-2 times out of 10, I need a boost).
China (far and away the best if you speak some chinese)
Thailand (if BKK does not wear you out, Pattaya will finish the job)
Philippines (especially if you want a 1-2 week with same girl-they will even take you home)
Singapore (Geyland..........most hookers in one place)
worst............France
Would like to visit: I am planning a 2 month trip to South America; I am taking spannish lessons
I am wondering in which countries other than Brazil, Anal is accepted as part of "customer satisfaction". I could not get any Chinese girl to agree even thought some of them had a loose sphincter on fingering.If you go to Lagos or Port Harcourt in Nigeria, almost 99.9% girls are available for anal sex.
Almost 99.9% girls walking on streets of Lagos or Port Harcourt are available for sex at any given time of the day in return for money.
In my opinion and after traveling to over 50 mongering countries, not necessarily in a specific order:
1. Thailand
2. Argentina
3. Nigeria
4. Gautemala
5. Brazil
Ok here's my PERSONAL list of Top 5 list for STR. (with numba 1 being the best country for this activity)
1) Thailand
2)Ecuador
3)Colombia
4)Peru
5)Dom republic
Top 5 list of general costs including mongering, hotels, food etc. ..etc.. .with numba 1 being the cheapest.
1) Bolivia
2) Paraguay
3) Thailand
4) Colombia
5) Ecuador equaly with Brasil
My personal Top 5 with the most priciest countries (with 1 being the most expensive)
1) Japan
2) Russia
3) Iceland
4) The UK
5) Argentina equaly with Chile.
Ok guys thats my personal thoughts here.
cheers
Johan
No way Argentina is 5th most expensive!!
No way Paraguay is cheaper than Thailand!!
Ecuador is one of the most disappointing places to ever go for mongering unless you live there and have no other options.
I was at marrkesh and casablanca 2 times and found that local hangoutatHyatt were risky as too much security. However I found their dancing very sexy and would love to explore their rear ends. The one Morrocan girl in BKK did not offer greek. What about getting Arab girls outside the dangerous Mid-east which place to go to?
Try Spain and France ...
BB
Henri Dufresne
12-01-08, 20:06
Everybody talks about the financial crisis everywhere. And i tell you it will impact the pussycat market as well.
I think we will see a pussycat price deflation.
Personnally i saw the pussycat market crazy inflation at the same than the stockt market bubble after 2002. This inflation came with a kind of new arrogance behaviour from girls.
Lots of us, noticed last year, increasing price in Romania for instance, we posh arrogant behaviour.
No worries, everything will get back to reasonnable prices. You ll see at the beginning of 2009.
ManonsanBoy
12-02-08, 21:38
what is the best place to go for cheap sex? I have been to Pattaya, but that is the only place.
I know I should rtff, but I was hoping for a few leads on where to concentrate my time
thanks
Pattaya, Thailand
Angeles City, Philippines
Chang Ping, China
Fly into HK; easy to get to the rest
You can f**k to your dick's exhaustion for 20-40 USD per pop.
Unfortunately, the pussy price and girls' arrogance does not depend on the stock market only, it also depends on the number of rich "westerners" coming to the girls. For example Czech republic used to be a heaven in 90s. The girls did not speak English, were modest and cheap.
Later when all this EU/Euro thing started, Prague is full of tourists, almost every girl speaks English, so the prices are much higher now. In a central club one hour with a girl was about $80, now it's at least 200EU. Some girls earn thousands over a weekend. Many men from countries such as UK do not mind to pay to the girls while the local's normal salary is still pretty low, about $1000/month.
Everybody talks about the financial crisis everywhere. And i tell you it will impact the pussycat market as well.
I think we will see a pussycat price deflation.
Personnally i saw the pussycat market crazy inflation at the same than the stockt market bubble after 2002. This inflation came with a kind of new arrogance behaviour from girls.
Lots of us, noticed last year, increasing price in Romania for instance, we posh arrogant behaviour.
No worries, everything will get back to reasonnable prices. You ll see at the beginning of 2009.
DJ FourMoney
01-03-09, 01:44
Unfortunately, the pussy price and girls' arrogance does not depend on the stock market only, it also depends on the number of rich "westerners" coming to the girls. For example Czech republic used to be a heaven in 90s. The girls did not speak English, were modest and cheap.
Later when all this EU/Euro thing started, Prague is full of tourists, almost every girl speaks English, so the prices are much higher now. In a central club one hour with a girl was about $80, now it's at least 200EU. Some girls earn thousands over a weekend. Many men from countries such as UK do not mind to pay to the girls while the local's normal salary is still pretty low, about $1000/month.
That's because to find it locally back at home is ridiculously expensive. But then again, I have heard quality has went down the tubes in Prague as well and now your just paying 200 Euro for "Average" services at best. Take a cheap BMI or RyanAir flight to A-dam or even Germany, I think value for money is still honored these places and your best value in Europe I think continues to be Germany.
For those looking for women of color or have "yellow fever" I guess Germany isn't such a hot idea, but for me as a lover of Caucasian women its a natural fit. I do love Latinas though, not so much the Mexicans that are already here or in Mexico, but more so the Latinas you find further South that have more European blood in them (ie: Fair Skin, Light Eyes, Lighter Hair Color)
I just can't get into Asian women, so besides wanting to see Thailand because its interesting and my co-worker is trying to get me to go to the Philippines when he goes back to visit family later this year, I'm not that exited to go.
My .02
rio de janeiro vs. pattaya
having just completed my first ever trip to pattaya, i thought it might be helpful for the monger community to get a comparison of the worlds two most famous mongering destinations.
just a few words of background. i love rio and brazilian women and have been to the marvellous city many times over the years. i speak portuguese which also makes a big difference. so my conclusion was never in doubt, but i will try to give a fair, albeit it, personal comparison.
my holidays are on relatively high budgets, so the conclusions are based on a fairly good budget.
the two cities
rio is probably one of the most beautiful cities in the world with a great combination of beaches, mountains, forests etc. traffic is bad, but the city has a good metro system and taxis are available very easily.
pattaya is not as nice as rio, but still has a beach (but nobody was swimming in the water). it is very build-up and i felt it was quite crowded. traffic is ok, and baht busses are readily available.
winner: rio
safety
i never felt unsafe in pattaya and it seems to have a good safety reputation.
rio is known to be an unsafe city with a very high murder rate. personally, i have never had problems in rio as i take my precautions.
winner: pattaya
non-mongering activities
pattaya has very good sporting activities available at very good prices. these include diving, golf, [CodeWord117] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117) etc. this is less easy to find in rio.
rio has excellent sightseeing tours, including the statue of christ and sugarloaf mountain to name a few. pattaya seemed to have less interesting tour options.
winner: depends on your preferences.
food
both cities have very good local food available a reasonable prices. i like both thai and brazilian food so for my detail regular meals both cities have good options.
there are a number of very good restaurants in rio with high-end international cuisine. these include satyricon, antequarius, fasano etc. i did not find high end international restaurants in pattaya.
winner: depends on food preference – mine is rio due to the high end restaurants.
non-pro nightlife
when in rio i sometimes like to take a night off (from the professional ladies) and go to a regular club. there are many good clubs with local clients only where you can have a great time. on some occasions you might even end up with non-pro for the night.
in pattaya there are so many foreingnes and prostitution is more widespread than in rio. this also means that most if not all clubs with have foreigners and local pros in their audience.
brazilian music in pretty good and i have even come to like to bailefunk party music – whereas i have heard enough thai techno music to last me a lifetime.
winner: rio
prices
generally speaking most, if not all things, are cheaper in pattaya.
apples to apples you get more for your dollars, euros …. in pattaya than in rio. this includes hotels, food, entertaining, women …
lunch:
thai food: 250baht (app. u$7)
brazilian kilograma: 35 reals (u$15)
two girl party:
pattaya (hell club): 3600baht for 90 minutes (u$100)
rio (centaurus): 800 reals for 60 minutes (u$355)
both places are, imho, the cities finest.
good local hotel:
pattaya: 2500 baht (u$72)
rio: u$130
i usually set a budget for my trips. i could not spend my whole budget in pattaya as it is quite cheap. on the other hand i have never been able to stay on budget in rio.
winner: pattaya
women
brazilian women come in all shape, sizes and colours – you can pretty much find all types of women in rio. thai women come in two shapes and sizes – small and very small.
to be perfectly honest it is not even a close call, brazilian women are far more attractive to me than thai women.
thai women are very nice and treat you very well if they like you. the lady i had last night would not allow me to get off the couch to get a beer, she always went to get it for me.
brasilian women are not quite like that, but they are still great company.
winner: rio
sex
again, not even a close call. brazilian women are great in bed, probably the best in world. thai womens sexual skills pale in comparison.
i have had so much great sex in brazil that i have stopped counting ….the best sex i had in pattaya does not even make it to my top50 sessions.
brazilian women are much more into sex and can genuinely provide a great gfe even if they have never met you before. brazilian women are also more sexually demanding – you will get a long way with them if you can really make the come.
winner: rio
will i go back?
…to pattaya: probably not, thai women does not really do it for me.
…to rio: every year till the day i die ( which i hope will be at an old age and in bed with 5 exhausted 19 year old brasilieras).
DJ FourMoney
02-17-09, 21:13
Some back story -
I wanted to finally go to Brazil. I've been dying to go every since I discovered this forum a few years ago. I went to Europe first in hopes I could lay the foundation for a long term relationship.
Crash and Burn, putting together Euro Trip 2.0 currently....
In the meantime, I haven't had sex since I returned from Europe. Well its time to remedy that.
I had planned my trip to Brazil around the World Touring Car Championship Round #1 to be held in Curitiba, but I think I'll miss that, we've had turnover at work again so I might have to push that back (March 8th).
So if I miss that target, I thought I would ask for some opinion of other options -
This trip has to be done for around $1200-1500US
I am trying to keep the cost of transportation and lodging total under $900. I plan on doing this staying mostly in low cost hotels or hostels. This would leave $300-$700 for "hobbies".
With the exchange rate, I have come up with three locations:
Brazil
Argentina
Columbia
I wanted to do 10 days in either location or about $100 a day.
Any input would be welcomed....
Some back story -
I wanted to finally go to Brazil. I've been dying to go every since I discovered this forum a few years ago. I went to Europe first in hopes I could lay the foundation for a long term relationship.
Crash and Burn, putting together Euro Trip 2.0 currently....
In the meantime, I haven't had sex since I returned from Europe. Well its time to remedy that.
I had planned my trip to Brazil around the World Touring Car Championship Round #1 to be held in Curitiba, but I think I'll miss that, we've had turnover at work again so I might have to push that back (March 8th).
So if I miss that target, I thought I would ask for some opinion of other options -
This trip has to be done for around $1200-1500US
I am trying to keep the cost of transportation and lodging total under $900. I plan on doing this staying mostly in low cost hotels or hostels. This would leave $300-$700 for "hobbies".
With the exchange rate, I have come up with three locations:
Brazil
Argentina
Columbia
I wanted to do 10 days in either location or about $100 a day.
Any input would be welcomed....
DJ,
I have travelled to Brazil and Colombia a dozen times each in the past 10 years. Your budget of $1,500 US serious limits your options.
Brazil: I like the Northeast, Salvador especially. The lowest fare I have ever received from Miami to Salvador was $700 US, and that was 7 years ago. AA has a new route from Miami to Salvador with a fare of $290 each way (off peak) plus tax. That should total between $650 and $750. Note that the airfare will be at least half your budget if you go to Brazil. (Check the fares from your city.)
There are many budget hotels in every city. They are not difficult to find as the airports have tourist offices that will help you find a hotel and will call that hotel to book your reservation, sometimes at a discuont price. I regularly use hotels that charge $R60-$R80 per night, before tax. They are not luxurious, but they get the job done. At 10 nights, your cost will likely be in the $R700-$R900 range. At an exchange rate of 2.0, that is another $450 US; running total $1,200 US. That will leave $300 for food and entertainment over 10 days.
Colombia: I have been to Cartagena, Cali, and Santa Marta. I suggest Cartagena for both its history and the ladies. The airfare to Colombia will run between $300 and $500 depending on to which city and when you travel. I think my fare to Cartagena was $400 9 years ago. My fare to Cali 2 years ago was around $450. In Cartagena, I stayed in an apartment that was available for rent to tourists and other travelers or temporary residents. In the Colombia forum, I read that its has gone downhill in terms of repair and it is full of prostitutes who stay there when not working. It was considered as not very safe. I paid the equivalent of $35 a night there for 2 weeks.
In Cali, I stayed at a marriage agency so that price is not representative. In Santa Marta, I stayed at a higher star hotel with a lady friend; the rate was around $60 a night.
I hope this helps.
My suggestion for budget pussy travel is the Dominican Republic. Fares can be as low as $200 from Miami or JFK. The exchange rate is good for Americans. I hear the price for TLN is at most $80. A few hotels can be found for $40 a night. You might come back with change from a 10 day stay there.
Naked Gunz
02-18-09, 02:31
i hope this helps.
my suggestion for budget pussy travel is the dominican republic. fares can be as low as $200 from miami or jfk. the exchange rate is good for americans. i hear the price for tln is at most $80. a few hotels can be found for $40 a night. you might come back with change from a 10 day stay there.
if you didn't help him, you helped me. after a year i'm finally leavin pacnorthwest area. been fuckin cold and bored up here. only saving grace has been my squaw that came to my teepee to hook me up. i hope to start contributing again and dr is on my radar..
DJ FourMoney
02-18-09, 05:15
Actually I haven't researched Columbia that deeply but I have Argentina and Brazil.
George -
Lowest fare I have been able to find on Kayak was actually under $600 for a brief moment late last month, but since my time off was unable to be finalized and we had a switch over in management come out of nowhere this past weekend, I was forced to not purchase that ticket as it wasn't refundable.
It was $707 on Mexicali to Sao Paulo and Curitiba. Yep you heard right, both locations! Well now its $1043 but I think that's because its close to Carnival, but I suspect it will go back down after Carnival.
So its possible to get to Brazil for less than $750 taxes and fees included.
In one model that would leave $500 for lodging, food and entertainment.
Using the same Hostel search engine I used while in Europe, I found a local low cost hotel which has double rooms available for $19.25US per day. All I need is a decent place to take a shower, to sleep and WiFi on site or within a short distance. The only problem is this hotel/hostel is off the beaten path somewhat but most sites and districts I would be interested in seeing are within reach by public transportation, which is close to the hotel (less than a block).
When I made my way to Curitiba for the race, I found the Accor owned Formula 1 hotel which goes for $35US a night and is girl-friendly. A local I met on another message board hooked me into the local scene which is important for Curitiba as its not frequented by many on this board just a few.
So all said about $170 for lodging. Food, well I don't know what the estimate would be but getting something cheap and filling is all I really need. While in Germany where I spent most of my time (otherwise I was with friends) eating Pizza, German Sausage, Micky D's and those Turkish Pita things (forgot what they were called) and didn't spend much more than $10-15Euro a day on food. I caught the Continental Breakfast most days, so I usually ate twice, maybe three times more in a day, wasn't that expensive.
Unlike my European trip, I can't overspend. I don't have overdraft protection on my debt card anymore, which cost me $2,500 in charges and fees when I returned back to the States. I also can't have $1,500 FedEx'ed to me like I did in Germany either... those days are over.
Given the exchange rate and there's no gringo price for food usually, I figure I can eat for much less than $25US a day.
As for GDP's in Brazil, Chicas in Columbia and Argentina -
I can do a Clinica and one short time GDP per day while in SP and for the three days in Curitiba, one GDP per day for two days, maybe two short time per evening, being their for two evenings total.
That should cost well under $300-350
In Argentina it would be roughly the same and so would Columbia.
Original plan was about 7 days, but I would extended it to 10 days if I could afford it.
I'm still crunching the numbers, at the very least my return trip home and lodging would be paid for in advance so if I have to back off getting laid to be able to eat, then that's okay.
Because I might have to push this back and miss the race, I would be willing to go later (maybe May) that way I could increase my budget to $1,000 for sex but really, do I need that much to bang at least two girls a day???
This trip has to be done for around $1200-1500US
I am trying to keep the cost of transportation and lodging total under $900. I plan on doing this staying mostly in low cost hotels or hostels. This would leave $300-$700 for "hobbies".
With the exchange rate, I have come up with three locations:
Brazil
Argentina
Columbia
I wanted to do 10 days in either location or about $100 a day.
Any input would be welcomed....
DJ-
With the budget you have presented here, I think it would be best to just forget even going to Brasil, Argentina, or Colombia. These countries are just too out of your budget to have a really good time. The airfare alone may end up eating half your budget! A couple of suggestions:
1. Check out some countries where the airfare is cheaper, a few that come to mind with good mongering are Ecuador, El Salvador and Nicaragua. You can easily get air tickets to all three places for under $500, sometime under even $300 from LAX to Central America. Check out the trip reports and photo galleries in these three threads and think about it.
2. I think you live in California? Why not just go to Mexico, either drive there or you can even take a bus if gas is too much. The pussy costs more there but think of all the money you will save on the arifare.
3. Just put off your trip until you have more money.
Going all the way to Brasil and then pinching pennies is not fun at all, trust me!
DJ FourMoney
02-18-09, 05:58
DJ-
With the budget you have presented here, I think it would be best to just forget even going to Brasil, Argentina, or Colombia. These countries are just too out of your budget to have a really good time. The airfare alone may end up eating half your budget! A couple of suggestions:
1. Check out some countries where the airfare is cheaper, a few that come to mind with good mongering are Ecuador, El Salvador and Nicaragua. You can easily get air tickets to all three places for under $500, sometime under even $300 from LAX to Central America. Check out the trip reports and photo galleries in these three threads and think about it.
2. I think you live in California? Why not just go to Mexico, either drive there or you can even take a bus if gas is too much. The pussy costs more there but think of all the money you will save on the arifare.
3. Just put off your trip until you have more money.
Going all the way to Brasil and then pinching pennies is not fun at all, trust me!
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=841760&postcount=1991
I wouldn't be pinching pennies that much, some mongers are just thrifty...
I was considering waiting a bit and that's okay.
Funny you mention Mexico, I would have gone this week but my check was a bit smaller. Exchange rate is 13:1 now, makes it fairly affordable. I will be going next week to TJ for a primer..lol
If I push back my trip (which I might do anyway), I would have $1000 to spend on ladies, the trip itself would still be under $800 and cheap hostels and hotels go for less than $30 a day.
Altered Ego
05-04-09, 20:46
Having almost reached the end of my current contact at work, I've decided that before starting to look for a new job I shall take a well-earned rest; consequently I am planning to spend a month (or maybe six weeks) in Asia. With this in mind, I thought it might be an idea to ask you good people the following question. Imagine for a minute that you have 4-6 weeks to spend in Asia this summer. Where and how would you spend it?
If any of you guys have experience of taking a long break like this, and would care to offer any recommendations (or 'do's and don'ts'? ) which might help me to obtain maximum enjoyment during my 'dream' holiday, then it would be much appreciated. You can be as generic or as specific as you like with your advice. For example, you might simply recommend one entire country as being the 'best' place to go; alternatively you can say which particular city or town has 'the most beautiful girls in Asia' (if it's a secret you can PM me, I promise I won't tell anyone! ); or you can recommend an individual bar or a place to stay.
Just to give you a bit of background on my own situation and preferences: I am 50 years old and have been to Asia quite a lot already, but only ever for one or (occasionally) two weeks at a time. Usually I prefer the Philippines (Manila/Makati. I'm not crazy about Angeles though), but I have also been to Bangkok, Pattaya, Singapore and HK. I don't have any language skills in any of the Asian tongues (I. E. I speak English only), so I don't really want to go anywhere where nobody understands me. I will be budgeting around 5000 USD (excluding my flight to/from my initial destination), so that rules out any luxury hotels (except maybe for a couple of nights). I would like to have the best possible experience within this budget, in terms of spending my time with attractive and friendly girls, somewhere with a lively atmosphere (I am definitely not planning on going and staying with a girl in her village! ). I don't mind travelling to more than one destination but I am not envisaging any kind of 'grand tour'. Oh yes, the places where I stay should really have aircon, and there should of course be beer, and reasonable food.
Many thanks in anticipation, and if anybody is going to be hanging around ('up to no good') in Asia during June please let me know. Maybe we can meet up for a drink.
Bud Leeeeeeee
05-17-09, 03:04
Seriously now. I am addicted to golf. Just started hitting high 80's. Not married an wanna travel for some good poon.
I have read a ton. Looks like Pattaya, maybe the PI (some notes said golf clubs were private).
What do you all think? An does anyone wanna go? I am early 40's an like to get squirrely hehe. I could swing more then one destination too. Have about 3 weeks of leave to make it happen.
ManonsanBoy
06-05-09, 22:31
Seriously now. I am addicted to golf. Just started hitting high 80's. Not married an wanna travel for some good poon.
I have read a ton. Looks like Pattaya, maybe the PI (some notes said golf clubs were private).
What do you all think? An does anyone wanna go? I am early 40's an like to get squirrely hehe. I could swing more then one destination too. Have about 3 weeks of leave to make it happen.
Pattaya is good for both. Also try southern China but you willprobably need a local to show you the way first time.
PI golf is less developed but still good. Bali is not too bad for mongering but golf is good.
Swiss Monger
06-08-09, 20:18
Where in EE can one have a reasonably priced GF6 experience? 60min. FK, OWO, various pos, COB or CIM 60-100 EUR, 100-150 CHF.
Information on boards vary greatly, cannot see a pattern of one country/city over the other? What am I missing?
Happy mongering.
Everybody talks about the financial crisis everywhere. And i tell you it will impact the pussycat market as well.
I think we will see a pussycat price deflation.
Personnally i saw the pussycat market crazy inflation at the same than the stockt market bubble after 2002. This inflation came with a kind of new arrogance behaviour from girls.
Lots of us, noticed last year, increasing price in Romania for instance, we posh arrogant behaviour.
No worries, everything will get back to reasonnable prices. You ll see at the beginning of 2009.
Shoebridge
07-19-09, 03:04
This is something I've been mulling over a while. I live in the US and have time for one decent mongering holiday per year, I've traveled to many of the mongering hotspots - South America, Thailand, Eastern Europe, South East Asia and am currently sitting in Tijuana. Lots of women, lots of fun.
But, what I find the hardest to do properly, is a really good threesome, foursome, or porn star experience (CIM, rimming, BBBJ etc). I have a vacation coming up and want to plan it around this, so am looking for advice on where to go.
At the moment, its probably a toss up between Rio and Philippines. Tijuana is too commercial, eastern Europe is more expensive and less of a destination holiday IMO, Thai ladies rarely like anal or threesomes in my experience etc. The girls in Rio are sexual beasts, and I loved my time there. The Philippines also has beautiful women who seem quite open to these things.
Looking forward to hearing your opinions
William Saw
07-28-09, 01:34
Batam Indonesia
Booking whole night 250,000 rupiah without commission.
About US$22
Where in EE can one have a reasonably priced GF6 experience? 60min. FK, OWO, various pos, COB or CIM 60-100 EUR, 100-150 CHF.
Information on boards vary greatly, cannot see a pattern of one country/city over the other? What am I missing?
Happy mongering.Sso far I have been to the following countries in eastern europe and central europe
Poland
Slovakia
Belarus
Bulgaria
Bosnia
Herzgovina
Croatia
Serbia
Cezch Republic, aew years ago
Hungary
Russia, again few years sgo.
And in sept I am going to Ukraine.
But I can tell you the best place and the most reasonable from every point of view, quality. Price would be poland poland and poland.
If you do not want to go to EE you can have what you want from all above countries except probably belarus, right here in london and in your price range just look it up on adultwork.com, photos prices everything.
Happy Mongering
Dodger1308
08-19-09, 03:27
Please help.
Looking for the best trip to plan. 5 days with a limited budget.
So with air travel, place to stay and mongering costs where to go to get the most action for the least coin.
45 year old white guy. Also looking for travel partner trip early October.
Please help.
Looking for the best trip to plan. 5 days with a limited budget.
So with air travel, place to stay and mongering costs where to go to get the most action for the least coin.
45 year old white guy. Also looking for travel partner trip early October.For first time traveler, safety, convenience, and value I'd go to Curacao. If you do not need luxury hotel and fancy restaurants, it should not be too expensive. Girls in Campo are $28/30min.
Other possible places with Colombian and Dominican girls - Panama, Costa Rica, St.Martin, Aruba, and DR(Dominican girl only), but girl prices are higher in those places.
The best would be some places in South America, but to save money you really need to know where you're going and the language.
Everybody talks about the financial crisis everywhere. And i tell you it will impact the pussycat market as well.
I think we will see a pussycat price deflation.
Personnally i saw the pussycat market crazy inflation at the same than the stockt market bubble after 2002. This inflation came with a kind of new arrogance behaviour from girls.
Lots of us, noticed last year, increasing price in Romania for instance, we posh arrogant behaviour.
No worries, everything will get back to reasonnable prices. You ll see at the beginning of 2009.You could see a bit of this in Tokyo of all places. The reverse exodus of expats going back home saw a few of the leading escort agencies (AM) make special deals.
While marrying Japanese has its problem (see 919274 ). For short term fun Japan has a lot going for it - look for example at the report by Dire Wolf 749594, many possibilities.
Dodger1308
08-23-09, 07:21
For first time traveler, safety, convenience, and value I'd go to Curacao. If you do not need luxury hotel and fancy restaurants, it should not be too expensive. Girls in Campo are $28/30min.
Other possible places with Colombian and Dominican girls - Panama, Costa Rica, St.Martin, Aruba, and DR(Dominican girl only), but girl prices are higher in those places.
The best would be some places in South America, but to save money you really need to know where you're going and the language.Thanks for the advice. Flight will set me back about $600. Seems like a great deal. I don't need a luxury hotel, hope to be mongered out and only want to sleep and recharge, and don't need a fancy restaurant.
For first time traveler, safety, convenience, and value I'd go to Curacao. If you do not need luxury hotel and fancy restaurants, it should not be too expensive. Girls in Campo are $28/30min.
Other possible places with Colombian and Dominican girls - Panama, Costa Rica, St.Martin, Aruba, and DR(Dominican girl only), but girl prices are higher in those places.
The best would be some places in South America, but to save money you really need to know where you're going and the language.In Medellin, Colombia, girls in casas are $15/30 minutes.. You don't even need to speak spanish. There are plenty of english speaking expats there that can take you on a tour.
Is there any place cheaper and comparable in price at the low end?
Can we start a list of the cheapest places for pussy? Please only post standard rates for ST onsite... not something you need to negotiate!
Equador - $6/15 minutes
Paraquay - $10/30 minutes
Colombia - $15/30 minutes
I've only been to Colombia on the list. I'm always looking for new places to go to!
In Medellin, Colombia, girls in casas are $15/30 minutes.. You don't even need to speak spanish. There are plenty of english speaking expats there that can take you on a tour.
Is there any place cheaper and comparable in price at the low end?Yeas, of course casas are a good deal in case they have good looking chicas. But that was my point without the language and/or guide it's gonna be kinda weird there and could be dangerous. If one does not know some Spanish, then someone else must always accompany him, since no one around speaks English. While on the islands everybody speaks at least some or very good English.
In my opinion the ideal place to stay in Medellin for a few days would be the Medellin Mansion, but it's not gonna be too cheap. In order to have good time, you do not wanna save money there.
Gfe Finder
08-25-09, 21:44
Can we start a list of the cheapest places for pussy? Please only post standard rates for ST onsite... not something you need to negotiate!
Equador - $6/15 minutes
Paraquay - $10/30 minutes
Colombia - $15/30 minutes
I've only been to Colombia on the list. I'm always looking for new places to go to!
And with the specific venue names as well for easy reference--
How about Vila Mimosa (~$14.50 for 20 min.) or BA 85 (~$9 for 15 min.) in Rio de Janeiro?
And with the specific venue names as well for easy reference--In Colombia, it's pretty much all casas in El Centro.
Buenos Aires, Argentina one hour:
Corrientes 1125 #5A = $20.78 yew ess
Uruguay 343 primer piso = $25.97 one chica, $44.16 two chicas, $51.95 three chicas; can be seen at www.gozanos.com.ar
Maipú 359 5th floor #74 (elevator #4) = $31.17
These are apartment-style privados; for a club experience try "Oro" for $33.77 yew ess la hora.
There are lower, half hour rates in all of these places. Uruguay 343 is $18.18 for half an hour. Oro has rates as short as twenty minutes but I don't know what the half hour rates are in most places cuz I ain't no "conejo."
Xyz Abcd2008
08-28-09, 22:17
Can we start a list of the cheapest places for pussy? Please only post standard rates for ST onsite... not something you need to negotiate!
Equador - $6/15 minutes
Paraquay - $10/30 minutes
Colombia - $15/30 minutes
I've only been to Colombia on the list. I'm always looking for new places to go to!India is much cheaper, 4 USD is enough for half an hour session.
India is much cheaper, 4 USD is enough for half an hour session.How about pointing the way? I am reading trip reports and the cheapest ST I've seen is 1000 INR (~$20) for 1 hour).
Bango Cheito
08-31-09, 06:00
You can get it for $2 in Bogota but it will probably be with an absolute monster. At $15 there are actually some decent looking women. And there really isn't any reason to pay more than $30 or $35 here.
I want to emphasize the "not something you need to negotiate! " part when making your suggestion. I'm sure you can get cheap pussy from some drugged out street wh*re for $1.
I was looking for more brothel type places with fixed rates. Seems like there's plentiful in South America. Do they have these type of rates in Europe or Asia?
World Sex Worker Index as of October 1, 2009
Mexico
Tijuana ( 20 to 30 mins)
VivaMex or Aztec massage only 5 (60 minutes)
SW 6
Hk 18
AB 16
Luxor 24
Monterrey
SW quasi 7
China
Chang Ping
BBS 8
KTV 30 to 50
FS 20
India
Mumbai
Plain Massage 4
with HJ 5
FS 50
Peru
Lima
R&V 15
Equador SW 3
Paraquay SW 5
Cloumbia SW 7
PM changes or other locations index for the next update.
Enjoy your trips round the world.
S7
What is the best country for good soapy / body - to - body massage?
DJ FourMoney
11-02-09, 12:38
What is the best country for good soapy / body - to - body massage?
You mean a great massage with a happy ending or better + it being soapy?
I would say Asia is likely your best bet.
Bud Leeeeeeee
11-14-09, 23:29
My buddy and I are gonna head south. Whats the best ... I have been all over the forums. Have traveled to Costa Rica(SJO) for a weekend and loved it and been to TJ plenty. Whats the best choice for stunners (8-10's with GFE)
MED- Med Mansion
RIO- Club Help
BA-
Costa Rica- Is everything from South America well represented at Marlin?
Where are the stunners to be had for MSOG for 2 hours/TDN at 100$ US.
We are both good lookn white guys with lil to NO spanish who just wanna get neck deep in some pussssssssssss.
Cincycooper
11-15-09, 16:52
What is the best country for good soapy / body - to - body massage?Not much experience but I had a great oily body to body massage in Budapest.
www.budapestmassage.com
About $80US
My buddy and I are gonna head south. Whats the best ... I have been all over the forums. Have traveled to Costa Rica(SJO) for a weekend and loved it and been to TJ plenty. Whats the best choice for stunners (8-10's with GFE)
MED- Med Mansion
RIO- Club Help
BA-
Costa Rica- Is everything from South America well represented at Marlin?
Where are the stunners to be had for MSOG for 2 hours/TDN at 100$ US.
We are both good lookn white guys with lil to NO spanish who just wanna get neck deep in some pussssssssssss.Medellin Manson is a really good place to stay, but you wont meet much stunners there in my opinion. But you can go to Loutron and Fase II.
In RIO in some thermas you can meet real stunners, their attitude and performance are even better than colombianas.
Costa Rica is not in South America but there you will find Nicaraguans and Colombians in addition to Ticas (Costa Ricans). I have been to every Spanish-speaking country in South America and if I were going to go to one for say a week, and all I cared about was mongering, I would go to Paraguay. Quantity, quality, price, and ease of use.
Most beautiful women in South America = Venezuela but otherwise that country sucks. Best food in South America = Perú if you know where to go. Fun city no one talks about = La Paz.
Ability to fuck rated by country:
1) Paraguay
2) Uruguay
3) Argentina
4) Chile
5) Perú
6) Venezuela
7) Colombia
8) Ecuador
9) Bolivia
Fun city no one talks about = La Paz.
Altitude might have alot to do with it. As far as I know La Paz has the best deals over it's sister city sucre.
Please correct me if I am wrong. I'd love to go to Bolivia but I dont know if just visiting the low lands is worth a trip.
I like Bolivia. With the altitude you get high without drugs, but just in case, there are plenty of drugs available. Go to Cochabamba, or Santa Cruz de la Sierra if you want lower altitude.
However Bolivian women are so short you can set your beer on their heads while they are blowing you. Whether or not that is an advantage kinda depends on your point of view. And also on how tall you are!
I like Bolivia. With the altitude you get high without drugs, but just in case, there are plenty of drugs available. Go to Cochabamba, or Santa Cruz de la Sierra if you want lower altitude.
However Bolivian women are so short you can set your beer on their heads while they are blowing you. Whether or not that is an advantage kinda depends on your point of view. And also on how tall you are!
What is the mongering like in cochabamba ? From what I've read here on isg sucre is around $50 for an escort to your hotel. Little is known about local dives/brothels in sucre. Would you know if a chongo scene exists in either place ?
Thanks
I haven't been to Sucre but they aren't sister cities. No tienen nada que ver. They are 400 km or more apart as the crow flies and Sucre is around 1000 meters lower. Bolivia has two capitals and Sucre houses I think it's the Supreme Court but it is a much smaller town. La Paz is a trip.
There are chongos in both Cochabamba and in Santa Cruz, quite a few actually, but it's been five years since I've been there. Santa Cruz is easier to figure out for the one-time visitor.
Shoebridge
11-16-09, 05:19
I'm headed to Asia with a buddy of mine - last time we traveled together it was to Rio, and it was a hell of a time! We're in our 30's and looking for ST, GFE as well as as many hairbrained, crazy experiences we can get ourselves into. I've been to Thailand, Philippines, Vietnam, Cambodia, HK and a few other places in Asia, but thought I'd seek some advice on where to go.
Where do you think we can engineer the wildest time with lots of girls?
Thanks
DJ FourMoney
11-16-09, 08:16
Costa Rica is not in South America but there you will find Nicaraguans and Colombians in addition to Ticas (Costa Ricans). I have been to every Spanish-speaking country in South America and if I were going to go to one for say a week, and all I cared about was mongering, I would go to Paraguay. Quantity, quality, price, and ease of use.
Most beautiful women in South America = Venezuela but otherwise that country sucks. Best food in South America = Perú if you know where to go. Fun city no one talks about = La Paz.
Ability to fuck rated by country:
1) Paraguay
2) Uruguay
3) Argentina
4) Chile
5) Perú
6) Venezuela
7) Colombia
8) Ecuador
9) Bolivia
Where's Brazil on that list??? You have seem to leave that out, is that on purpose? From what I have seen strictly pictures from the internet including here on ISG, its not hit and miss, but not much middle ground. Since there is constant bitchin about posting facial shots, its hard to tell who's attractive and who's not.
But you seem to be the only regular on ISG that doesn't rank Brazil in the Top 9, you only listed 9, so Brazil is 10th?
I'm working on where I wanna go and I hope I can hold on to my tax return as that's where my main funding for this trip will come from.
Also why is Colombia so far down?
Where's Brazil on that list??? You have seem to leave that out, is that on purpose? From what I have seen strictly pictures from the internet including here on ISG, its not hit and miss, but not much middle ground. Since there is constant bitchin about posting facial shots, its hard to tell who's attractive and who's not.
But you seem to be the only regular on ISG that doesn't rank Brazil in the Top 9, you only listed 9, so Brazil is 10th?
I'm working on where I wanna go and I hope I can hold on to my tax return as that's where my main funding for this trip will come from.
Also why is Colombia so far down?It really depends on the personal taste, experience, particular girls, language, etc.
The order of the countries is not too important, just go somewhere.
First I'd go to the closest and easiest place such as CostaRica, Panama or Curacao, so you don't miss any action if the trip is short, and no language problems except talking to girls.
Or RIO could be a good place - from my limited Rio experience therma girls on average are much better than Colombianas when it comes to sex.
I said I have been to every Spanish-speaking country in South America. They do not speak Spanish in Brazil and I can't understand a damn thing so I haven't mongered there, just enjoyed the Amazon. Never been to any of the cities in Brazil. They speak Portuguese in Brazil. I can pretty much read it but I can't understand it to save my life. I have fucked enough Brazilians to concur they know how to fuck but not enough to really rate them. Maybe between Argentina and Chile.
I am sure that Brazil is the best Portuguese-speaking country in South America, though, since it's the only one. There are four countries in South America where Spanish is not the primary language as you also have Guyana, Suriname, and French Guiana. I have not been to any of those places. So really when I say, "Best food in South America" I mean "best food in Spanish-speaking Latin America." I should have made that more clear.
As to Colombia, you have to remember that the competition is very tough. Being #7 on the list of best fucks in (Spanish speaking) Latin America is really quite an achievement. Having said that, while Colombianas would probably rank #2 or #3 on looks, they are not as good in bed as some other countries' chicas are. Again, this is not to say they aren't good. They are very good. Just not as good as Peruanas, who are not quite as good as Paraguayas. You have to love a country like Paraguay where their two main exports are marijuana and hookers. Fortunately the quality of the hookers is way better than the quality of the marijuana, which sucks.
Having said this about Colombia, my experience is with the highlands and maybe the coastal chicas are hotter. That could be true for Ecuador as well.
DJ FourMoney
11-16-09, 17:23
As to Colombia, you have to remember that the competition is very tough. Being #7 on the list of best fucks in (Spanish speaking) Latin America is really quite an achievement. Having said that, while Colombianas would probably rank #2 or #3 on looks, they are not as good in bed as some other countries' chicas are. Again, this is not to say they aren't good. They are very good. Just not as good as Peruanas, who are not quite as good as Paraguayas. You have to love a country like Paraguay where their two main exports are marijuana and hookers. Fortunately the quality of the hookers is way better than the quality of the marijuana, which sucks.
Having said this about Colombia, my experience is with the highlands and maybe the coastal chicas are hotter. That could be true for Ecuador as well.
Well I did noticed you only mentioned Spanish speaking countries, I should have known.
Thanks for the clarification.
I said I have been to every Spanish-speaking country in South America. They do not speak Spanish in Brazil and I can't understand a damn thing so I haven't mongered there, just enjoyed the Amazon.Yeah, its difficult to understand them, but they can understand Spanish. With my relatively fucked up Spanish I did not have much problems there. Also after a few days you start picking up some Portugese. The girls are much more open minded in sex then Colombianas. In one week I had about 10 girls in thermas Luomo & Montecarlo and one from the beach. At least 5 of them we fantastic, some of the best fucks ever, and the rest were good at least. In Colombia it takes to go through 10 or more girls to find something similar in looks and attitude in sex.
Bango Cheito
11-18-09, 01:56
I personally found Colombian women on par with people anywhere else in Latin America for ability to fuck....
Pg Wodehouse96
12-21-09, 20:03
Let me open the debate on the best countries to visit in Europe.
For me, the clear winners are: Germany, Spain, and Czech Republic. These are countries that you would go out of your way to visit for the purpose of mongering.
Countries which have reasonable mongering possibilities, but are not worthy of a special visit include: Switzerland, Austria, Netherlands, Portugal, Hungary, Poland, the Baltic States, Ukraine, and Russia.
Countries which are best avoided from a mongering perspective are France, Italy, the Scandinavian countries, Ireland, the UK, Belgium, Italy, Greece, and Turkey.
I wonder if people agree with me.
Pg Wodehouse96
12-21-09, 20:27
The European League table
PREMIER LEAGUE - of international standing
1) Germany
2) Czech Republic
3) Spain
DIVISION TWO - good by European standards, but not in comparison with many places outside Europe
1) Switzerland
2) Austria
3) Ukraine
4) Netherlands
5) Belgium
6) Portugal
7) Bulgaria
8) Russia
9) Hungary
10) Luxembourg
DIVISION THREE - Mediocre destinations; keep expectations low
1) Slovakia
2) Poland
3) Turkey
4) Romania
5) France
6) Italy
7) Latvia
8) Estonia
9) Lithuania
10) Cyprus
11) Greece
12) Finland
13) Denmark
14) United Kingdom
DIVISION FOUR - mongering deserts. Avoid.
1) Sweden
2) Norway
3) Ireland
4) Croatia
5) Bosnia and Herzogovina
6) Iceland
7) Belarus
8) Serbia
9) Albania
Gentleman Travel
12-22-09, 15:47
The European League table
PREMIER LEAGUE - of international standing
1) Germany
2) Czech Republic
3) Spain
DIVISION TWO - good by European standards, but not in comparison with many places outside Europe
1) Switzerland
2) Austria
3) Ukraine
First, Plum, it is nice to see a nick of such refinement and culture...
Second, how the fuck does Switzerland rate #1 in your second division??
I have just been there a couple of times, but other than over-price strip clubs and SW I don't see much action!
Please prove me wrong - I am heading for Geneva in a few weeks and would LOVE to know how to bring some warmth into those cold helvetic nights!!
Can we start a list of the cheapest places for pussy? Please only post standard rates for ST onsite... not something you need to negotiate!
Equador - $6/15 minutes
Paraquay - $10/30 minutes
Colombia - $15/30 minutes
I've only been to Colombia on the list. I'm always looking for new places to go to!
Peru - $7/till u cum
Peru - $7/till u cum
$5 at "el boite" next to the trocadero.
Chocha Monger
12-22-09, 19:12
China -$4.39 USD (30 RMB)/ You cum game over!
Pg Wodehouse96
12-22-09, 22:01
First, Plum, it is nice to see a nick of such refinement and culture...
Second, how the fuck does Switzerland rate #1 in your second division??
I have just been there a couple of times, but other than over-price strip clubs and SW I don't see much action!
Please prove me wrong - I am heading for Geneva in a few weeks and would LOVE to know how to bring some warmth into those cold helvetic nights!!Geneva is a waste of time when it comes to mongering - unless one is happy to remain in expensive champagne hostess clubs. In this respect, it takes its lead from France.
No, the relatively high ranking of Switzerland in the league table is based on what's available in Zurich. Zurich offers the possibility of a great night out.
For a cheaper experience with the ladies of Brazil, hang out in the bars around the Langsstrasse (particulalrly the Sonne bar). For something more upmarket, go to Saphir, Club Aphrodisia, or Club Life.
And even though it's extortionate, you can't beat a night with the creme-de-la-creme of Russian womanhood in Kings Club.
Zurich is a good destination. Everything is safe, clean and well organised (as you would expect). It just requires a little more insider knowledge than the more obvious destinations.
$5 at "el boite" next to the trocadero.
$5.25 at todays rate!
DJ FourMoney
12-23-09, 00:54
First, Plum, it is nice to see a nick of such refinement and culture...
Second, how the fuck does Switzerland rate #1 in your second division??
I have just been there a couple of times, but other than over-price strip clubs and SW I don't see much action!
Please prove me wrong - I am heading for Geneva in a few weeks and would LOVE to know how to bring some warmth into those cold helvetic nights!!
I would like to know as well, just in case...
The Scandinavian countries are horrible for mongering (P4P) but much better places for "freebies" if you have the looks, uniqueness or skillz. Not to take on one members line of thinking but having witness it myself, there's nothing negative about being African-American in Scandinavia... I stress the "American" part because Africans do face some "issues" in Western Europe and I don't look African at all, though I'm 80% Black (Chinese and Indian).
Just from reading the forum I can also agree with your divisions and feel Germany getting higher marks than The Netherlands is totally justified. FKK's are a god send, I wish they were in Mexico where I have been hanging out lately and GFE is a rare creature seemingly only available to actual boyfriends or Gringos that are almost fluent Spanish speakers.
DJ FourMoney
12-23-09, 01:12
Okay, but how do some of these women look fellas?
Colombia, okay some hot ones, some less so.
Peru? I suppose judging only by internet pictures would be okay as well.
China? I assume we're not talking about Hong Kong?
there's nothing negative about being African-American in Scandinavia. I stress the "American" part because Africans do face some "issues" in Western Europe and I don't look African at all, though I'm 80% BlackHelp me here becasue I don't quite get it. Are there African Canadians? What about African Jamaicans, or African Colombians, or African Germans. What about African Africans?
I think the correct terminology is American of African decent.
Help me here becasue I don't quite get it. Are there African Canadians? What about African Jamaicans, or African Colombians, or African Germans. What about African Africans?
I think the correct terminology is American of African decent.Just as an FYI, don't nitpick other people's use of terminology unless you're going to get it right yourself.
First, it's descent, not decent. Second, African-American is a term that's been in use for decades now, and yes, the term could just as easily be applied to other countries as well, so someone who says they are a African-German can be construed as being a German of African descent. The whole idea behind the term African-American is to make conversations more fluid so that you don't have to say things the long way every time.
Whether you like it or not, terms like African-American are part of the English language. Please spend less time complaining about terms you obviously understand.
Help me here becasue I don't quite get it. Are there African Canadians? What about African Jamaicans, or African Colombians, or African Germans. What about African Africans?
I think the correct terminology is American of African decent.
Logically, it IS American of African descent, American of European descent, American of Asian decent, American of native descent, Canadian of African descent, etc. But logic is NOT part of the PC nomenclature. So we have African-Americans, African-Canadians, African-Europeans, and African-Africans.
Just my $0.02. YMMV.
If enough people travel and monger enough and shoot a lot of loads "Raw Dog" then in two generations everyone will be a nice mocha color and we can forget about all this shit.
Chocha Monger
12-23-09, 23:30
If enough people travel and monger enough and shoot a lot of loads "Raw Dog" then in two generations everyone will be a nice mocha color and we can forget about all this shit.
Dickhead,
You just found the formula for world peace. I'll nominate you for the Nobel Peace Prize.
DJ FourMoney
12-23-09, 23:32
Help me here becasue I don't quite get it. Are there African Canadians? What about African Jamaicans, or African Colombians, or African Germans. What about African Africans?
I think the correct terminology is American of African decent.
I'm actually just a plain ol'e American, African-American is a PC creation because calling people "Negro" was too close to calling people "Nigga" make sense?
DJ FourMoney
12-23-09, 23:37
Dickhead,
You just found the formula for world peace. I'll nominate you for the Nobel Peace Prize.
Certainly more deserving than Obama at this point.
Make Love not War as the saying goes...
George is right and I said as much in my post below, but it bares repeating, its Political Correctness, Neo Liberal created nonsense.
I love oriental women and for the last couple of years while in Canada have mostly seen Asian SP's and high mileage MPA"s.
I am going to have a few months off this winter and am considering a trip to somewhere in Asia where I can get my fill (after spending some time in Mexico and Central America).
I am looking at Indonesia, Philipines, Thailand or maybe China.
I lived in Thailand for a year and Thai women are great, I love their femininity and softness. But Thailand itself and the whole P4P scene is a bit over the top. Pataya was too much, really.
So I'm looking for some opinions.
Indonesia and the women sound intriguing, as well as affordable. Jakarata itself though sounds llike a hole.
China doesn't look to be all that cheap in comparison to the others.
Philipines I am not sure about
Any ideas? All coments welcome.
Thanks
I live in central mexico now, not exactly a place for good mongering.
Guadalajara has a few places but most chicks have been eating too many taco's and drink huge amounts of coca cola, el gorda's.
I have been many times to Thailand and do not ever want to go back, burned out on the Thai madness.
I'm wanting get away for a month and not sure where to go yet,
I'm wanting a place that is on or near good beachs, good food, a bit of nightlife. I, m older so don't need the Pattaya scene of insane clubs and music.
I'd like to be able to find a nice figured girl and go back to a beach bungalow or very private quite hotel and st her or keep her a while depending on her attitude.
Am thinking Phillipines and also Colombia/paraguay/Rio?
Any suggestions are very welcomed.
VD
The European League table
PREMIER LEAGUE. Of international standing
1) Germany
2) Czech Republic
3) SpainWhy is Spain so high on this list? I was looking at the Barcelona thread and it sounds like with the Riviera now shut down the place is not that great. Why did you put it so high on your list?
Am thinking Phillipines and also Colombia/paraguay/Rio?
Any suggestions are very welcomed.
VD
News flash: Paraguay is a land-locked country which tends to limit the beach scene. Suggest Viña del Mar in Chile. Nice and laid back. More hotels than cabañas or bungalows though. For more of a funky cabaña or bungalow type of scene suggest La Serena, also in Chile.
Thanks Dickhead for you info.
Your info is always respected and well recieved.
I have sent you a PM however I thought it best to put the questions and answers in the open as this is the object of this fine board.
Best of the Holliday Season to you and all the lovely ladies around you.
VD
Latin Bound
12-30-09, 17:44
I live in central mexico now, not exactly a place for good mongering.
Guadalajara has a few places but most chicks have been eating too many taco's and drink huge amounts of coca cola, el gorda's.
I have been many times to Thailand and do not ever want to go back, burned out on the Thai madness.
I'm wanting get away for a month and not sure where to go yet,
I'm wanting a place that is on or near good beachs, good food, a bit of nightlife. I, m older so don't need the Pattaya scene of insane clubs and music.
I'd like to be able to find a nice figured girl and go back to a beach bungalow or very private quite hotel and st her or keep her a while depending on her attitude.
Am thinking Phillipines and also Colombia/paraguay/Rio?
Any suggestions are very welcomed.
VDIf you are thinking Colombia, the most touristy beaches areas would be Cartagena and Santa Marta. In Cartagena you will be approached frequently by all sort of vendors. Im just stating this in case you dont like that. Good night life and mongering clubs. You will always have San Andres but that is more for the traveling fun of it.
DownUnderMonger
12-31-09, 23:24
While most of you guys are disgusted by the mere suggestion. I was wondering what country would have the best available fat (size 16+) white girls as working girls. I'm mean legally. Not the US (and I'm guessing many people will suggest that) as I want somewhere where its legal and theres no paranoia surrounding the whole sex industry.
At the moment I'm thinking UK as they are actually organised (with adultwork and other sites), but does any other country cater for this in some organised fashion (ie. Dedicated fat brothel, etc). Other place I was thinking would be Germany. Theres always nice curvy girls there. Maybe even Brazil.
Can anyone any shed light on this?
DJ FourMoney
01-02-10, 09:29
While most of you guys are disgusted by the mere suggestion. I was wondering what country would have the best available fat (size 16+) white girls as working girls. I'm mean legally. Not the US (and I'm guessing many people will suggest that) as I want somewhere where its legal and theres no paranoia surrounding the whole sex industry.
At the moment I'm thinking UK as they are actually organised (with adultwork and other sites), but does any other country cater for this in some organised fashion (ie. Dedicated fat brothel, etc). Other place I was thinking would be Germany. Theres always nice curvy girls there. Maybe even Brazil.
Can anyone any shed light on this? Not that I know of, but I'm sure you can find chubby providers anywhere as an escort. Not aware of any brothel's with chubby delights, though I know in Germany you can find that sort of thing, cause I have seen it.
While most of you guys are disgusted by the mere suggestion. I was wondering what country would have the best available fat (size 16+) white girls as working girls. I'm mean legally. Not the US (and I'm guessing many people will suggest that) as I want somewhere where its legal and theres no paranoia surrounding the whole sex industry.
At the moment I'm thinking UK as they are actually organised (with adultwork and other sites), but does any other country cater for this in some organised fashion (ie. Dedicated fat brothel, etc). Other place I was thinking would be Germany. Theres always nice curvy girls there. Maybe even Brazil.
Can anyone any shed light on this?Vancouver has a amazing hooker scene , it is almost legal and no hazzle, and prices are very good.
get a local paper such as Georgia Straight and there are hundreds of gals in there. It is easier and faster than ordering a pizza, with any size or topping.
alright everyone, i'm just looking for an update here. I'm getting ready for 3 months in Europe, South america, Asia and about 1-2 months in Australia. I'll be visiting 12 countries in Europe. I'll list the other areas later. I'm just wondering what are the best countries I should visit to have the most 'free' sex as far as Europe is concerned. i'm 24 and black. you can correct me but so far I have worked out a couple of countries that I have heard are essentials:
Europe -> Germany, Switzerland (interlacken area), Greece, Spain (Ibiza), France (Cap d'agde), Czech Republic (Prague), UK (london),
i'll go over the other areas after I finalize the europe section.
Report back on your OB looks and charm around the world.
Remember to have fun and share the love.
alright everyone, i'm just looking for an update here. I'm getting ready for 3 months in Europe, South america, Asia and about 1-2 months in Australia. I'll be visiting 12 countries in Europe. I'll list the other areas later. I'm just wondering what are the best countries I should visit to have the most 'free' sex as far as Europe is concerned. i'm 24 and black. you can correct me but so far I have worked out a couple of countries that I have heard are essentials:
Europe -> Germany, Switzerland (interlacken area), Greece, Spain (Ibiza), France (Cap d'agde), Czech Republic (Prague), UK (london),
i'll go over the other areas after I finalize the europe section.
Member #4148
01-13-10, 06:25
I live in central mexico now, not exactly a place for good mongering.
Guadalajara has a few places but most chicks have been eating too many taco's and drink huge amounts of coca cola, el gorda's.
I have been many times to Thailand and do not ever want to go back, burned out on the Thai madness.
I'm wanting get away for a month and not sure where to go yet,
I'm wanting a place that is on or near good beachs, good food, a bit of nightlife. I, m older so don't need the Pattaya scene of insane clubs and music.
I'd like to be able to find a nice figured girl and go back to a beach bungalow or very private quite hotel and st her or keep her a while depending on her attitude.
Am thinking Phillipines and also Colombia/paraguay/Rio?
Any suggestions are very welcomed.
VD
Africa, my boy, Africa.
Ghana, specifically. Beaches from Accra (kind of gross, though) to the far west of the country (beautiful) and every woman a potentially available semi-pro.
Glorious.
I'm not sure why you would recommend Africa as a mongering destination. Doesn't like 80% of the population have HIV/AIDs? Why on earth would you go there specifically looking for sex?? Death sentence....
Member #4148
01-13-10, 23:56
I'm not sure why you would recommend Africa as a mongering destination. Doesn't like 80% of the population have HIV/AIDs? Why on earth would you go there specifically looking for sex?? Death sentence....
...is everywhere.
High rates in SE Asia, Brazil...and Africa.
Where you monger is largely irrelevant, in my opinion, with respect to the incidence of HIV among sex workers. Epidemiologic data bear this out.
HIV should always be assumed. Which is the reason condoms should be worn.
...is everywhere.
High rates in SE Asia, Brazil...and Africa.
Where you monger is largely irrelevant, in my opinion, with respect to the incidence of HIV among sex workers. Epidemiologic data bear this out.
HIV should always be assumed. Which is the reason condoms should be worn.
Brazil does NOT have a high prevalence of HIV. It has had one of the world's best HIV/AIDS knowledge campaigns and one of the highest rates of free condoms for 15 years. The result is the HIV prevalence and incidence in 2007 is one of the world's lowest.
Brazil does NOT have a high prevalence of HIV. It has had one of the world's best HIV/AIDS knowledge campaigns and one of the highest rates of free condoms for 15 years. The result is the HIV prevalence and incidence in 2007 is one of the world's lowest.Reminds me of Oktoberfest in Blumenau, 2006. I was one of the tourists crowded along the route for the evening parade. Maybe 1/2 hour ahead of the parade, a group of pretty "Mädchen" (meninas in traditional German outfits) passed along the route handing out paper fans; they were printed by a major pharmacy, and on the back of each fan was an ad for Vitamin V under a taped-on condom.
Got to admire Brazil. A very civilized nation.
The problem, in my experience isn't finding them, its avoiding them! The Georgia Straight strategy below works well (you can see these online at http://www.straight.com/classifieds/Adult). The other strategy that works here in Vancouver (and I'm guessing elsewhere) is to search the Craigslist adult (called erotic still in some regional Craigslists ) personals for BBW or Big Beautiful Women. So searching http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/ers/ with BBW throws up lots of them. So best of luck with this and if you come across thin ones who are good, throw them our way. Cheers
Vancouver has a amazing hooker scene , it is almost legal and no hazzle, and prices are very good.
get a local paper such as Georgia Straight and there are hundreds of gals in there. It is easier and faster than ordering a pizza, with any size or topping.
And if anyone else like me doesn't know what a size 16 looks like, the following should help. I now know I like size 8 or less. Hey, you learn something everyday... cheers
http://jkc2009.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/ideal-women-sizes1.jpg
While most of you guys are disgusted by the mere suggestion. I was wondering what country would have the best available fat (size 16+) white girls as working girls. I'm mean legally. Not the US (and I'm guessing many people will suggest that) as I want somewhere where its legal and theres no paranoia surrounding the whole sex industry.
At the moment I'm thinking UK as they are actually organised (with adultwork and other sites), but does any other country cater for this in some organised fashion (ie. Dedicated fat brothel, etc). Other place I was thinking would be Germany. Theres always nice curvy girls there. Maybe even Brazil.
Can anyone any shed light on this?
Hi Gents,
I'm totally new to the forum. I've been reading through lots of reports and discussions, and I have read the "abbreviations" section- man there a lot of abbreviations in this "hobby"!
So to the point- what is the meaning of STR versus LTR? I looked on the abbreviations and all it says is LTR = Long Term Relationship and STR = Short Term Relationship.
Is STR a "quickie" and LTR "all night", or is STR once and LTR a repeat customer (or spending several days with the same woman)?
Crudely, STR is 1-2 (or less) hours and LTR is all night or longer. Now, other may place the dividing line in a different place, but short and long is the essence of it.
The terms and abbreviations list, below, might help:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1897
And welcome to an enjoyable hobby
Hi Gents,
I'm totally new to the forum. I've been reading through lots of reports and discussions, and I have read the "abbreviations" section- man there a lot of abbreviations in this "hobby"!
So to the point- what is the meaning of STR versus LTR? I looked on the abbreviations and all it says is LTR = Long Term Relationship and STR = Short Term Relationship.
Is STR a "quickie" and LTR "all night", or is STR once and LTR a repeat customer (or spending several days with the same woman)?
I'd like to experience both the women and the sights of a place. I would like to find a nice looking woman with a good personality to act as tour guide and GF for a couple/few days. Maybe pay half up front and half when it is all over. Maybe an amateur?
Opinions on which countries would be best for this? I like warm weather and lighter skinned women with dark hair.
How would you go about looking for such an arrangement?
Gentleman Travel
02-19-10, 16:54
Crudely, STR is 1-2 (or less) hours and LTR is all night or longer. Now, other may place the dividing line in a different place, but short and long is the essence of it.
Sure there are different ways to define short-term and long-term, but the key word is "relationship" which is not measured in hours or dollars.
A quick bedroom romp is not a relationship. It is probably a commercial transaction or maybe NSA fun. "No Strings Attached" explicitly disqualifies it as a relationship. A relationship is more complex and involved than just sex.
My definition (and what I see supported in many of the posts) of a "Short Term Relationship" is a couple of days, or one visit. You chat the girl up on internet, or meet her in a bar, date, do dinner, eventually bed her and see her again and again during the same trip. But maybe with no particular expectation that you will keep in touch or see her again afterwards.
Whereas a "Long Term Relationship" implies at least a series of meetings, maybe over several trips, and the idea that you will see each other again, and probably stay in touch in between. Possibily leading to mistress or wifey-like relationships.
Now some guys see some of the same girls on repeat visits, over a long period of time, but I am not sure I would call that an LTR, because if there is no real commitment to do so, then it is not really a relationship. Just a useful contact list for booty calls.
IMHO, outside of the price difference, there can be some great opportunities in the USA.
This statement can vary greatly depending on where you are, but I live in LA most of the year and find such a huge selection of women to choose from that it is hard to beat. NY and SF also offer good opprtunities.
I have great luck using www.theeroticreview.com in the US. I also use www.humaniplex.com but getting used to the site and getting rated can be a bit if a hassle.
I have also found some gems in soem far outback places such as Birmingham, and St. Louis. But pickings can be slimmer.
One thing in the US that can be a bummer is the rip off atrists. That is why I ALWAYS use a rating service, and if I cannot or if I have to use www.craigslist.com I am very careful and walk away from anything that smells suspecious.
While it is not legal, LE does not seem to be a factor.
I guess what I like is that being the great melting pot that it is, if the city is big enough, you can get what you want....Russian, Thai, black....whatever you want.
$$ can be expensive but options make up for it.
I also reccomend getting on the e-mail lists of some of the agencies that ave traveling girls. www.my-secret-club.com and www.apresvous.com are two of my favorites.
And finally a plug for my ATF: http://los-angeles-escorts.********.com/escorts/list/116845.htm
I have been seeing her for 4 years on and off and I cannto say enough for this girl. Take care of her! She is in LA.
Happy hunting!
Johnny Maldiva
04-07-10, 03:29
Sure there are different ways to define short-term and long-term, but the key word is "relationship" which is not measured in hours or dollars.
A quick bedroom romp is not a relationship. It is probably a commercial transaction or maybe NSA fun. "No Strings Attached" explicitly disqualifies it as a relationship. A relationship is more complex and involved than just sex.
My definition (and what I see supported in many of the posts) of a "Short Term Relationship" is a couple of days, or one visit. You chat the girl up on internet, or meet her in a bar, date, do dinner, eventually bed her and see her again and again during the same trip. But maybe with no particular expectation that you will keep in touch or see her again afterwards.
Whereas a "Long Term Relationship" implies at least a series of meetings, maybe over several trips, and the idea that you will see each other again, and probably stay in touch in between. Possibily leading to mistress or wifey-like relationships.
Now some guys see some of the same girls on repeat visits, over a long period of time, but I am not sure I would call that an LTR, because if there is no real commitment to do so, then it is not really a relationship. Just a useful contact list for booty calls.Good definitions, GT. As for committment, seems that relationships are more mental whereas P4P is more physical. So, the committment relies on two different things to keep the "relationship" afloat. That's why we care about others and not care to post pics of our P4P or freebie conquests, since there's little mental committment/appreciation there after the deed is done.
Hey folks. Any opinions on the best countries in Africa to hit? I haven't been there but plan to go soon.
DJ FourMoney
05-15-10, 10:13
IMHO, outside of the price difference, there can be some great opportunities in the USA.
This statement can vary greatly depending on where you are, but I live in LA most of the year and find such a huge selection of women to choose from that it is hard to beat. NY and SF also offer good opprtunities.
I have great luck using www.theeroticreview.com in the US. I also use www.humaniplex.com but getting used to the site and getting rated can be a bit if a hassle.
I have also found some gems in soem far outback places such as Birmingham, and St. Louis. But pickings can be slimmer.
One thing in the US that can be a bummer is the rip off atrists. That is why I ALWAYS use a rating service, and if I cannot or if I have to use www.craigslist.com I am very careful and walk away from anything that smells suspecious.
While it is not legal, LE does not seem to be a factor.
I guess what I like is that being the great melting pot that it is, if the city is big enough, you can get what you want....Russian, Thai, black....whatever you want.
$$ can be expensive but options make up for it.
I also reccomend getting on the e-mail lists of some of the agencies that ave traveling girls. www.my-secret-club.com and www.apresvous.com are two of my favorites.
And finally a plug for my ATF: http://los-angeles-escorts.********.com/escorts/list/116845.htm
I have been seeing her for 4 years on and off and I cannto say enough for this girl. Take care of her! She is in LA.
Happy hunting!
Okay I'll bite -
How much have you spent on a typical evening/daytime whatever...?
If I eliminate all the nonsense and strip it down to just mongering -
$300 in Germany, one visit
$400-$450 in TJ, five times
$150 one provider South Gate area
Value? Hard to beat TJ, $25-$60 a shot. Only thing is never more than 30-45 mins and one shot on goal or they start asking for more money.
IMHO nothing beats a ltr, yeah it cost more but its broken down over a much longer period of time and there isn't much luck involved -
“Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.” - Seneca
Guys,
I'm starting to look into where to go for my next long-term (3-4 months) mongering trip. I'm doing some research on different countries here on the ISG and there seems to be a recurring theme that keeps popping up in many different threads; I keep reading statements such as "_________ is dead as a mongering destination" or "________ isn't what it used to be" or my favorite _________ has changed for the worst". Reading over these threads is making me think that something is going on out there that is affecting mongering scenes all over the world. I'm not sure what exactly is going on to cause this, though. Lets take a look at some examples I've been thinking about. These are countries I've both been to and haven't yet visited:
1. Brasil: Help disco was shut down, prices are way, way up compared to just 7-8 years ago, and guys are writing about getting covered BJs now. Sounds like the officials cracked down on mongering in Fortaleza.
2. Singapore: Had a fantastic street scene just two years ago, the police there have arrested and deported the girls working the streets. Service in the legal houses can often be a sterile experience, with everything covered. Expensive, too.
3. The Philippines: A fine destination if you're looking for a GF or a wife, but as a point and click mongering destination, it's not that good. Scams abound, trike drivers are assholes, and general fourth-world infrastructure add to the problems.
4. Mexico: Probably was a good mongering destination 50 years ago, but now too many gringos and too much violence. Prices can be expensive too, unless you only bang street girls. Mexico City is super expensive.
5. South Korea: Where I am now. Like Mexico, this place was a mognering paradise many years ago (so I've heard) but now it's not good at all. Way, way too expensve, and xenephobic chicks that can't take dick bigger than 3 inches.
6. Costa Rica: I haven't been here, but it sounds terrible. $100 for ST?? Overrun with gringos like Mexico I guess.
7. Cambodia: Haven't been here either, but from reading the board I guess the NGOs have taken over the country. That will kill any mongering scene.
8. Thailand: I was going to go here a few weeks ago, I had my ticket, condoms, lube, hard-on, everything was packed and ready to go. Then it happend. A fucking civil war breaks out in Bangkok. Decided to cancel. No idea if this will change the scene there.
So, what do you guys think. Does anyone have any ideas what is going on out there; what's causing all this. Or am I just being paranoid?
Bango Cheito
05-17-10, 18:12
I was gonna comment on this one way, but decided against it exactly because of what I'm about to say....
I myself have totally changed my style of posting... I used to be one of those 'excellent' posters who gave detailed information with addresses and phone numbers and everything... I stopped doing that long ago, why, because many of the LURKERS who are one here among others, take this information and fuck everybody else's shit up....
I life and work in Colombia, I make the local currency and I'm in the trenches with the broke-ass locals here. People come down here and totally fuck up the market with their stupidity, often paying triple or quadruple. I've seen prices on the cheaper hotels and motels SOAR, now if i wanna have a party with a few friends at my preferred spot I have to pay more than double. Even the taxis are getting more and more greedy, always trying to get an extra 1000 or 2000 pesos out of some stupid cheap 10 minute fare. People who read this forum are not 100% of the problem but they are a much bigger part of it than one would think at first.
That's not the only class of stupid behavior people on here engage in on a regular basis. People ratting out this site to WGs who then find their photo on here, fighting over girls' affections like as if they were in junior high, using the site to STALK and BLACKMAIL WGs (I am a PERSONAL witness to this digsuting behavior on more than one occasion), the list could go on. In short, giving too much detailed information is like casting pearls before swine. Not to mention in areas like NYC, LE totally reads the board, and the moment any specific info about anything good goes up there, it's shut down....
So there is that factor. The P4P scene continues to be great in Bogota, but I for one will make sure it STAYS great by not letting people kill the goose that lays the golden egg. Have a nice day everybody!
Bango Cheito
05-17-10, 18:14
In short, 8 years ago this forum was GOD as far as info on p4p worldwide was concerned. But God is dead, and we killed him!
Doctor_Skank
05-17-10, 18:37
I was gonna comment on this one way, but decided against it exactly because of what I'm about to say....
I myself have totally changed my style of posting... I used to be one of those 'excellent' posters who gave detailed information with addresses and phone numbers and everything... I stopped doing that long ago, why, because many of the LURKERS who are one here among others, take this information and fuck everybody else's shit up....
It's the nature of the beast.
I agree but I feel like an Ahole if I don't contribute. I've had too much help from this forum over the years not to give back. It just wouldn't be right.
What members need to do is READ and follow directions. There are some really schooled mongers on this forum that can HELP you if you let them.
The price police is real. Get used to it. It's the only way to keep the game in check. If you can't relate to that then you need to go back and READ the forum again.
Your mongering affects other people's mongering. Plain and simple.
Bango Cheito
05-17-10, 22:13
i will continue to contribute, but not at the total all out level i did before, it has a net NEGATIVE effect on all of us... i will post general info and the details people will have to PM me and I will decide if it's worth the risk or not....
I do want to thank Jackson for helping a good friend of mine and making a slight exception to the rules regarding a SERIOUS matter that came up recently.
Bango Cheito
05-17-10, 22:30
Actually I may be entering into a serious LTR (!) in the next few days which will not totally make a eunuch out of me but WILL severely curtail my activities just because I will be giving this girl a lot of energy.... so my contributions may slow just because of that.....
OTOH if things don't work out I'll be hitting the spots with a VENGEANCE :P
DJ FourMoney
05-18-10, 04:38
In short, 8 years ago this forum was GOD as far as info on p4p worldwide was concerned. But God is dead, and we killed him!
Na its very informative, don't be so negative.
I didn't have to ask anybody where things where, I haven't overpaid anywhere. I've been caught out a bit, but never intentionally overpaid.
Man that sucks, and sadly I do agree with you. If i lived in a wsg paradise and I gave out information, then people would start appearing and fuck everything up. I would stop also. Maybe time to start an exclusive private forum?
I was gonna comment on this one way, but decided against it exactly because of what I'm about to say....
I myself have totally changed my style of posting... I used to be one of those 'excellent' posters who gave detailed information with addresses and phone numbers and everything... I stopped doing that long ago, why, because many of the LURKERS who are one here among others, take this information and fuck everybody else's shit up....
I life and work in Colombia, I make the local currency and I'm in the trenches with the broke-ass locals here. People come down here and totally fuck up the market with their stupidity, often paying triple or quadruple. I've seen prices on the cheaper hotels and motels SOAR, now if i wanna have a party with a few friends at my preferred spot I have to pay more than double. Even the taxis are getting more and more greedy, always trying to get an extra 1000 or 2000 pesos out of some stupid cheap 10 minute fare. People who read this forum are not 100% of the problem but they are a much bigger part of it than one would think at first.
That's not the only class of stupid behavior people on here engage in on a regular basis. People ratting out this site to WGs who then find their photo on here, fighting over girls' affections like as if they were in junior high, using the site to STALK and BLACKMAIL WGs (I am a PERSONAL witness to this digsuting behavior on more than one occasion), the list could go on. In short, giving too much detailed information is like casting pearls before swine. Not to mention in areas like NYC, LE totally reads the board, and the moment any specific info about anything good goes up there, it's shut down....
So there is that factor. The P4P scene continues to be great in Bogota, but I for one will make sure it STAYS great by not letting people kill the goose that lays the golden egg. Have a nice day everybody!
Ezinho,
I'm a retired navy guy with 27 years of service. Mongering mostly in Asia, Middle East, and Africa. I have been to Brazil a couple of times and really liked it. Other places on that side were Belize, Honduras, Costa Rica, and Trinidad. Let me give you my two cents:
Brazil: Love the place and the women, especially the passion, but I also think prices are getting out of control, as well as the crime. Love the Thermas!
Singapore: Been in and out of that place since 1978. It has always been expensive and the scene seems to change every 3 years or so.
PI: How I loved this place until the volcano destroyed the bases and the Navy was shoved out. Trike drivers have been assholes since I remember in 1978. Nothing has changed there. Manila used to be a good mongering area, but now it seems AC is the best spot. Still I think this is a good spot.
Mexico: I just started discovering Tijuana (live in san Diego), and the scene is hot. Street girls for $20 and bar/club girls for 50/60. Still a great bargain. I go down there every two weeks for scheduled maintenance.
South Korea: I have not been since 1991, and that was in Pohang and Busan. I did find some bargains during that time. Every bar smells like fucking kimchi!
Costa Rica: I was there just last month, and I agree, the girls are asking way too much, usually $100. But most will come down to 60, and the MPs are affordable. So it might be worth a trip out for you. The Sportsman Lodge has a good scene going.
Cambodia: Haven't been there either and really have no desire to.
Thailand: Pattaya is still the number one mongering spot in the world (IMHO). 25-30K women in the same area, great food, decent beaches. Oh my. My first trip was in 1978, and I keep returning. Will be there in August for 2 weeks. Still the best bang for the buck!
I will also travel to the Dominican Republic this November. Read too many good things not to go!
Places I want to go: Germany, Czech Republic, Russia, and Netherlands. Any input on those?
Bottom line, I think you might be a bit paranoid. But just a bit. There are still some good deals out there. Keep mongering my friend. Life is good!
Guys,
I'm starting to look into where to go for my next long-term (3-4 months) mongering trip. I'm doing some research on different countries here on the ISG and there seems to be a recurring theme that keeps popping up in many different threads; I keep reading statements such as "_________ is dead as a mongering destination" or "________ isn't what it used to be" or my favorite _________ has changed for the worst". Reading over these threads is making me think that something is going on out there that is affecting mongering scenes all over the world. I'm not sure what exactly is going on to cause this, though. Lets take a look at some examples I've been thinking about. These are countries I've both been to and haven't yet visited:
1. Brasil: Help disco was shut down, prices are way, way up compared to just 7-8 years ago, and guys are writing about getting covered BJs now. Sounds like the officials cracked down on mongering in Fortaleza.
2. Singapore: Had a fantastic street scene just two years ago, the police there have arrested and deported the girls working the streets. Service in the legal houses can often be a sterile experience, with everything covered. Expensive, too.
3. The Philippines: A fine destination if you're looking for a GF or a wife, but as a point and click mongering destination, it's not that good. Scams abound, trike drivers are assholes, and general fourth-world infrastructure add to the problems.
4. Mexico: Probably was a good mongering destination 50 years ago, but now too many gringos and too much violence. Prices can be expensive too, unless you only bang street girls. Mexico City is super expensive.
5. South Korea: Where I am now. Like Mexico, this place was a mognering paradise many years ago (so I've heard) but now it's not good at all. Way, way too expensve, and xenephobic chicks that can't take dick bigger than 3 inches.
6. Costa Rica: I haven't been here, but it sounds terrible. $100 for ST? Overrun with gringos like Mexico I guess.
7. Cambodia: Haven't been here either, but from reading the board I guess the NGOs have taken over the country. That will kill any mongering scene.
8. Thailand: I was going to go here a few weeks ago, I had my ticket, condoms, lube, hard-on, everything was packed and ready to go. Then it happend. A fucking civil war breaks out in Bangkok. Decided to cancel. No idea if this will change the scene there.
So, what do you guys think. Does anyone have any ideas what is going on out there; what's causing all this. Or am I just being paranoid?
Places I want to go: Germany, Czech Republic, Russia, and Netherlands. Any input on those?I don't know much about Germany, been there a few times, looked at some Asian and non-Asian houses in Frankfurt and Duseldorf. They sucked big time for me, did not bother doing anything there. But I have not been to FKK clubs, sounds like they are good places
Netherlands was much cheaper before Euro. It used to be 50guilders($30) in RLD. Now I think it is at least 50 euros
Czech Republic and Russia were heaven in 1990s. If you're planning to spend lots of money, than it will be great. I think Czech is fucked up now, eveyrbody knows english and charges lots of money.
In 2000 you could get a hot girl for $60-80 in a central night club for one hour and awesome performance, as many shots as you can.
Last time I was there a couple of years ago, they do have lots of hot looking girls, but the price starts from 100-200 euros for some average service unless you're lucky. The girls are spoiled now there by rich tourists.
Thank you do much for your insite!
I don't know much about Germany, been there a few times, looked at some Asian and non-Asian houses in Frankfurt and Duseldorf. They sucked big time for me, did not bother doing anything there. But I have not been to FKK clubs, sounds like they are good places
Netherlands was much cheaper before Euro. It used to be 50guilders($30) in RLD. Now I think it is at least 50 euros
Czech Republic and Russia were heaven in 1990s. If you're planning to spend lots of money, than it will be great. I think Czech is fucked up now, eveyrbody knows english and charges lots of money.
In 2000 you could get a hot girl for $60-80 in a central night club for one hour and awesome performance, as many shots as you can.
Last time I was there a couple of years ago, they do have lots of hot looking girls, but the price starts from 100-200 euros for some average service unless you're lucky. The girls are spoiled now there by rich tourists.
Gfe Finder
05-28-10, 15:12
Guys,
I'm starting to look into where to go for my next long-term (3-4 months) mongering trip. I'm doing some research on different countries here on the ISG and there seems to be a recurring theme that keeps popping up in many different threads; I keep reading statements such as "_________ is dead as a mongering destination" or "________ isn't what it used to be" or my favorite _________ has changed for the worst". Reading over these threads is making me think that something is going on out there that is affecting mongering scenes all over the world. I'm not sure what exactly is going on to cause this, though. Lets take a look at some examples I've been thinking about. These are countries I've both been to and haven't yet visited:
1. Brasil: Help disco was shut down, prices are way, way up compared to just 7-8 years ago, and guys are writing about getting covered BJs now. Sounds like the officials cracked down on mongering in Fortaleza.
2. Singapore: Had a fantastic street scene just two years ago, the police there have arrested and deported the girls working the streets. Service in the legal houses can often be a sterile experience, with everything covered. Expensive, too.
3. The Philippines: A fine destination if you're looking for a GF or a wife, but as a point and click mongering destination, it's not that good. Scams abound, trike drivers are assholes, and general fourth-world infrastructure add to the problems.
4. Mexico: Probably was a good mongering destination 50 years ago, but now too many gringos and too much violence. Prices can be expensive too, unless you only bang street girls. Mexico City is super expensive.
5. South Korea: Where I am now. Like Mexico, this place was a mognering paradise many years ago (so I've heard) but now it's not good at all. Way, way too expensve, and xenephobic chicks that can't take dick bigger than 3 inches.
6. Costa Rica: I haven't been here, but it sounds terrible. $100 for ST?? Overrun with gringos like Mexico I guess.
7. Cambodia: Haven't been here either, but from reading the board I guess the NGOs have taken over the country. That will kill any mongering scene.
8. Thailand: I was going to go here a few weeks ago, I had my ticket, condoms, lube, hard-on, everything was packed and ready to go. Then it happend. A fucking civil war breaks out in Bangkok. Decided to cancel. No idea if this will change the scene there.
So, what do you guys think. Does anyone have any ideas what is going on out there; what's causing all this. Or am I just being paranoid?
My guess (at a ~30,000 foot level) is that two main factors are at work here:
1. Prices go up as demand goes up. More men discover this hobby and partake, so the girls think they can get away with charging higher prices. Men who don't do their homework (i.e. read this and other boards before their trip) and who don't enforce the pricing structure by walking away exacerbate the trend. Nevertheless (and this is the key point): demand increasing faster than supply will always drive prices up, dumb Gringos or not.
2. Supply is not keeping up. It's good money, particularly relative to some other options available to women in a number of these countries. Nevertheless, in most societies I know of there is a stigma attached to participants and to women worse than men. So, it's a relatively larger risk to them to participate (outed on the street, outed at work, outed on the internet, etc.) as the activity becomes more omnipresent. As a result, there are not as many women to service an ever-increasing number of men.
You mentioned increasing violence and chaos in a number of places which I would assume are still feeling the effects of the most recent global recession. Again, a 30K ft. view.
My 2¢, take it for what it's worth.
Hotman 666
05-28-10, 16:52
How about Argentina?
Great pussy, wonderfull steak and red wine!
Plus, it's now less expensive than Brazil.
But it will depend on if you enjoy Latinas!!!
Read Jacksons other site Argentina Private.
Enjoy,
Hotman
Ezinho,
I'm a retired navy guy with 27 years of service. Mongering mostly in Asia, Middle East, and Africa. I have been to Brazil a couple of times and really liked it. Other places on that side were Belize, Honduras, Costa Rica, and Trinidad. Let me give you my two cents:
Brazil: Love the place and the women, especially the passion, but I also think prices are getting out of control, as well as the crime. Love the Thermas!
Singapore: Been in and out of that place since 1978. It has always been expensive and the scene seems to change every 3 years or so.
PI: How I loved this place until the volcano destroyed the bases and the Navy was shoved out. Trike drivers have been assholes since I remember in 1978. Nothing has changed there. Manila used to be a good mongering area, but now it seems AC is the best spot. Still I think this is a good spot.
Mexico: I just started discovering Tijuana (live in san Diego), and the scene is hot. Street girls for $20 and bar/club girls for 50/60. Still a great bargain. I go down there every two weeks for scheduled maintenance.
South Korea: I have not been since 1991, and that was in Pohang and Busan. I did find some bargains during that time. Every bar smells like fucking kimchi!
Costa Rica: I was there just last month, and I agree, the girls are asking way too much, usually $100. But most will come down to 60, and the MPs are affordable. So it might be worth a trip out for you. The Sportsman Lodge has a good scene going.
Cambodia: Haven't been there either and really have no desire to.
Thailand: Pattaya is still the number one mongering spot in the world (IMHO). 25-30K women in the same area, great food, decent beaches. Oh my. My first trip was in 1978, and I keep returning. Will be there in August for 2 weeks. Still the best bang for the buck!
I will also travel to the Dominican Republic this November. Read too many good things not to go!
Places I want to go: Germany, Czech Republic, Russia, and Netherlands. Any input on those?
Bottom line, I think you might be a bit paranoid. But just a bit. There are still some good deals out there. Keep mongering my friend. Life is good!
Hey Hotman,
You are not the first to recommend Argentina. I think next summer (this summer I will be in Thailand, maybe for the last time), I will work up a trip to Argentina, Chile, Paraguay, and Uruguay. I added the other countries because I have not been to any of them...you only live once, and it is so short not to travel the extra mile. I will save Europe for another year or so. Thank you for your recommendation!
How about Argentina?
Great pussy, wonderfull steak and red wine!
Plus, it's now less expensive than Brazil.
But it will depend on if you enjoy Latinas!!!
Read Jacksons other site Argentina Private.
Enjoy,
Hotman
8. Thailand: I was going to go here a few weeks ago, I had my ticket, condoms, lube, hard-on, everything was packed and ready to go. Then it happend. A fucking civil war breaks out in Bangkok. Decided to cancel. No idea if this will change the scene there.
So, what do you guys think. Does anyone have any ideas what is going on out there; what's causing all this. Or am I just being paranoid?
I dont believe the political unrest, protest and crackdown should be viewed as a civil war. Actually due to many cancellations such as the one above has caused a vacuum for a monger to enjoy. More reasonably one could complain that Bangkok has developed in such a way that the fun of 10 years ago is down 80% because there is just not as many girl friendly places to meet free lancers for a GFE and "the girl next door" stocks are down also 100%. Tourist mafia in the area still remain as touts that incessantly approach farang on the street to rip them off. Also the annoying tuk tuk drivers should be avoided so take a taxi. Alot more guys are hooking up at online networking sites. Some of the newbies bamboozle themselves into believing they are dating regular girls that they dont have to pay end up in a plethera of drama and lies often resulting in theft or some type of scam to get money. Tip, Hey guys the girl is not paying for taxi to and from your place for dinner and to suck your cock for free. She rather eat local cheap som tom and rice rather than your candlelight pasta and wine so pay the girl in the first place.
Even girls with regular jobs are making the average of $5 a day.
Also a phenomia found especially in Northeastern Thailand area known as Esarn is that parents require their children to send home money as a tax for being born.
Sponsoring a girl at 30,000baht/month may get you the feeling your getting an exclusive but in reality unless you watch her 24/7 she is out tricking with other guys or giving it free to young handsome dudes when your not watching. Bad girls are good girls and Good girls are bad girls buyer beware.
If your looking for a rocket scientist you wont find it here. If you like them dumb then here is the place for maximum fun.
A final note to newbies. You most likely will come to Thailand and within days get a plethera of ideas for business and entrepenuership. Once you stay long enough to see thru the smoke screen called thai culture you will most likely discover that the locals are not interested in your ideas nor in your assimilation. You are a walking dollar sign. Put a few tools in your surviver belt and dont be quikly serious with any one girl here. This is a playboy paradise will the penis is king.
Hi guys, I'm a new member, sorry For bothering, but I think I can get some
Nice suggests here.
I'm an italian guy, 22, I've got a 2500€ budget for this summer(period August)and I'm looking for a nice place for mongering. I've got 10-15 days free and I don't like pros so far, I prefer normal girls I can meet in malls and beach, and not to expansive ones as well, considering my budget. What's the best place? Thanks and sorry for my english.
Hi guys, I'm a new member, sorry For bothering, but I think I can get some
Nice suggests here.
I'm an italian guy, 22, I've got a 2500€ budget for this summer(period August)and I'm looking for a nice place for mongering. I've got 10-15 days free and I don't like pros so far, I prefer normal girls I can meet in malls and beach, and not to expansive ones as well, considering my budget. What's the best place? Thanks and sorry for my english.
It sounds like ibiza is the place for you.
Why bother going to a monger destination if you don't like pros ? If you said you wanted a little taste of both there might be more options.
22 yrs old italian with euros and interest only in non pros doesn't sound like a monger to me....enjoy what you have while you have it..
thanks for ansering. I meant that I don't like streetwalkers or professional escorts. I like girls who do that seldom as an extra. I read nice reports about Thailand and Ghana, but the first seems too expansive so far and dangerous in this period, ghana instead seems better for older guys and worries me a bit for AIDS risk.
Wear a condom.
No worries.
thanks for ansering. I meant that I don't like streetwalkers or professional escorts. I like girls who do that seldom as an extra. I read nice reports about Thailand and Ghana, but the first seems too expansive so far and dangerous in this period, ghana instead seems better for older guys and worries me a bit for AIDS risk.
thanks for ansering. I meant that I don't like streetwalkers or professional escorts. I like girls who do that seldom as an extra. I read nice reports about Thailand and Ghana, but the first seems too expansive so far and dangerous in this period, ghana instead seems better for older guys and worries me a bit for AIDS risk.
Thailand is safer and far cheaper.
- Girls cost you the same
- Food is cheaper and better
- Accomodation is far cheaper and better
- Flight is cheaper
- You are able to rent a bike to get arround, not possible in Ghana
- There is much much more to do besides hanging arround in bars
If you're on the cheap, go to Thailand espc. now as all the stupid package tourists stay away.
Hi guys, I'm a new member, sorry For bothering, but I think I can get some
Nice suggests here.
I'm an italian guy, 22, I've got a 2500€ budget for this summer(period August)and I'm looking for a nice place for mongering. I've got 10-15 days free and I don't like pros so far, I prefer normal girls I can meet in malls and beach, and not to expansive ones as well, considering my budget. What's the best place? Thanks and sorry for my english.
Usually Cuba will be OK... Before it changes to much... find a casa particular allowing girls, and just hunt them. 100/120 € a day plus trip would be fair enough outside big cities... of course Thailand is an obvious possibility.
Unfortunataly today 2500 € for a two week fucking holiday is not enough for the FSU teens (lovable blondinkas...) a pity! ;)
IT
CastOnThis
07-06-10, 16:19
Hunter gave me an idea.
I am not a new member, but I will be traveling to Eastern Europe in August and I have a budget of e2, 000 for five weeks. The nations I will be traveling to include Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia, Romania, Moldova, Ukraine. I do not mind having sex with pros but which nations are the cheapest prostitutes and which nations are good easiest to have short flings without having to pay for it?
Hunter gave me an idea.
I am not a new member, but I will be traveling to Eastern Europe in August and I have a budget of e2, 000 for five weeks. The nations I will be traveling to include Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia, Romania, Moldova, Ukraine. I do not mind having sex with pros but which nations are the cheapest prostitutes and which nations are good easiest to have short flings without having to pay for it?My guess would be something like Moldova and Ukraine. Although not sure if there are any "cheap" prostitutes left. But it does not really matter, since you have only e2000 for one month, it can be hardly enough for lodging and some modest food. Plus you need money for transportation, and to entertain either "free" or "paid' girls.
CastOnThis
07-10-10, 21:28
My guess would be something like Moldova and Ukraine. Although not sure if there are any "cheap" prostitutes left. But it does not really matter, since you have only e2000 for one month, it can be hardly enough for lodging and some modest food. Plus you need money for transportation, and to entertain either "free" or "paid' girls.Well thank you for at least responding. I was thinking Bosnia would have been nice. But then again they might not have such a good p2p scene, or so I have read.
Australiasucks
07-21-10, 05:56
My guess would be something like Moldova and Ukraine. Although not sure if there are any "cheap" prostitutes left. But it does not really matter, since you have only e2000 for one month, it can be hardly enough for lodging and some modest food. Plus you need money for transportation, and to entertain either "free" or "paid' girls.Germany used to have plenty of good providers from Russia and Ukraine but on my visit this past June they all but disappeared. I spent a whole month there before I found a real Russian beauty but it was delayed gratification. 2000 EUR for a month is a bit too low of budget. The FKK clubs are being converted into all you can fuck partytreffs and sauna clubs, I found this deeply disturbing because Germany has long been a Disneyworld of adult entertainment. I saw a few women from Poland but in general the Polish girls are kind of cold not as much fun has the Russians and Ukrainians.
CastOnThis
07-21-10, 16:49
Germany used to have plenty of good providers from Russia and Ukraine but on my visit this past June they all but disappeared. I spent a whole month there before I found a real Russian beauty but it was delayed gratification. 2000 EUR for a month is a bit too low of budget. The FKK clubs are being converted into all you can fuck partytreffs and sauna clubs, I found this deeply disturbing because Germany has long been a Disneyworld of adult entertainment. I saw a few women from Poland but in general the Polish girls are kind of cold not as much fun has the Russians and Ukrainians.Well I planned on staying mostly at hostels NEVER any hotels. And most hostels cost like 18e for a night. I don't know, I have stayed in hostels before in Europe and I spent 1500e and that was in W.Europe. From what I thought I thought Eastern Europe is generally cheaper then W.Europe.
Australiasucks
07-22-10, 03:47
Well I planned on staying mostly at hostels NEVER any hotels. And most hostels cost like 18e for a night. I don't know, I have stayed in hostels before in Europe and I spent 1500e and that was in W. Europe. From what I thought I thought Eastern Europe is generally cheaper then W. Europe.If you are looking for cheap but good prostitutes my guess would be Romania and Bulgaria would have plenty of them. I went to a German brothel and paid 100 EUR and got to fuck every single prostitute there and spent nearly 10 hours in the club, also got food and drinks, it average around 10 EUR a fuck. If those girls are willing to leave home for sex work I guess it must be cheap over there.
Poland and Hungary might be another idea. Also the issue in these countries is language, many women do not speak English. I spent a month in Germany, which is an advanced country but many people there did not speak much English, and language is key to getting non pro pussy and a better deal on pros.
Russian girls these days are expensive, I would guess many Ukrainians are also realizing their true value.
I stuck to Germany for a number of reasons, its an organized first world country, its also fairly clean and straight, in some of those other Eastern European countries, especially the non EU ones, you need to be very careful.
Don't forget to consider the emerging powerhouse of Mainland China. Its a huge country with regional differences and no speakie english so do your homework. You can even opt for Macao for easier travel and no visa needed. This website has a plethora of information and photos. I would like to see the best well traveled and experienced members from different regions get together to rally and debate the best international destinations suitable for who and what goals.
With things as bad in the USA these days i would like to see a little flexing and opening of the snapper markets there. Hang tight men and stand tall for our right to get some.
After all a mutual agreement between man and lady that involves sex should not be the governments business.
Oh yes it is i forgot, marriage..Haaaaa!
Gentleman Travel
08-09-10, 15:27
Well I planned on staying mostly at hostels NEVER any hotels. And most hostels cost like 18e for a night. I don't know, I have stayed in hostels before in Europe and I spent 1500e and that was in W.Europe. From what I thought I thought Eastern Europe is generally cheaper then W.Europe.
...which nations are good easiest to have short flings without having to pay for it?
Well, if you are staying at hostels, I don't see how you can get freebie sex. I mean where are you going to do it? Invite the girl back to your elegant hostel to perform in front of your roommates?
Also not having a hotel or apartment limits you to salons and pros who work out of apartments. Semi-pros usually count on you providing the place.
So you pay one way or the other. Either you pay for a decend place to stay, or you pay more for your pleasure (or at least limit your options).
DJ FourMoney
08-16-10, 23:49
Well, if you are staying at hostels, I don't see how you can get freebie sex. I mean where are you going to do it? Invite the girl back to your elegant hostel to perform in front of your roommates?
Also not having a hotel or apartment limits you to salons and pros who work out of apartments. Semi-pros usually count on you providing the place.
So you pay one way or the other. Either you pay for a decend place to stay, or you pay more for your pleasure (or at least limit your options).
In defense of Hostels I have used in Europe. I have shared a room maybe twice? I was often in two person room alone or with just one other person. It would be very easy to deal with that if both parties understood what the other was doing and when. In fact if I had been rooming with my boy Dave, he was a bigger pervert than I'll ever be and not that's because he's a voyeur its more likely he would be out getting "his" if I came back to the hostel to get "mine".
My concern wasn't so much being in a hostel, but taking a girl back to the hostel to bang. Not like that is unusual at all, after all we're talking about 20somethings mostly.
Savage Grape
08-26-10, 04:04
Hi everyone,
I am obviously new to these forums. But hopefully someone here can answer these questions or point me to a resource.
I am an American currently in Bulgaria. I have one month left on my holiday and I could go basically anywhere in Europe.
What I would like to do is film some POV videos of me with some girls and *perhaps* put them online.
I don't know anything about the porn industry, but I've seen a lot of reality-type sites that are filmed in Europe. Public Invasion is a good example. It's made to look like it's just a random girl he meets on the street, but besides that context, I am extremely curious as to how these guys for real meet such girls. All context aside, all money aside, it's still a guy fucking really hot girls. Bottom line, at the end of the day, that's exactly how I want to spend my time. So my questions are these:
1. How are guys *for real* prospecting and getting girls for 'reality' porn?
2. What, legally, do I need to do *just in case* I want to put these videos online?
3. Finally, where should I go to get the most bang for my buck? Where are the hottest Euro girls that want to suck and fuck on camera for the least money in return?
Member #4319
08-26-10, 19:37
Hey guys,
I'd like to get more involved in the forums :) This is my first post.
I have a 2 week holiday coming up and I was wondering where do you guys feel the cheapest mongering destinations are? I realise that cheapest doesn't necessarily mean best, but I was in Thailand last year and loved both the standard and the prices. I am more into the massage/streetwalker scene than the nightclub/bar scene personally.
When compared to Thailand, how do places like Brazil, Argentina, Costa Rica, Germany and any other noteworthy places fare? I don't mind spending money getting to the country, but I'd hopefully be looking for someplace that has a cheaper standard of living and reasonably priced mongering - much like I experienced in Thailand!
Thanks guys,
Jason M
ps, thailand was also good because when not mongering there were AMAZING beaches and fun activities to get up to.
I have a 2 week holiday coming up and I was wondering where do you guys feel the cheapest mongering destinations are? I realise that cheapest doesn't necessarily mean best, but I was in Thailand last year and loved both the standard and the prices.
Nothing in the world comes close to Thailand.
2. Philippines
3. Cambodia
4. Indonesia
When compared to Thailand, how do places like Brazil, Argentina, Costa Rica
- They are far far more expensive than TH
- There are safety issues (not possible to walk arround at night in Brazil)
- You need to speak Spanish or Portuguese (nobody speaks any English)
I don't mind spending money getting to the country, but I'd hopefully be looking for someplace that has a cheaper standard of living and reasonably priced mongering - much like I experienced in Thailand!
Germany is out, as it is more expensive than the US for living. Mongering is pretty cheap.
There is nothing outside of South East Asia that meets your requirements.
Argentina is not "far more expensive" than Thailand. Food is a bit more expensive and hotels are more expensive in Buenos Aires, but not so much elsewhere in the country. The cost of pussy and beer is remarkably similar between the two countries.
TheyStoleMyName
08-29-10, 22:55
Thailand and the Philippines are both amazing. If I am going to either country I can get online and by the end of the week have a list 100 names long of gorgeous young girls who are ready to fuck me. Or I can just go and stand around at a bar or walk on the street or something and women will come up to me (not just prostitutes). It is ludicrously easy both places.
Women from both countries are beautiful and petite. Thais tend to have bigger tits. I think Thai girls are less conservative and more up for casual sex overall, but Filipina girls are so naive, trusting, and loving that getting them into bed is about as easy as it could possibly be. Thai girls are usually better in bed. It's typically easier to pick up very young girls in the Philippines and there is no strong social taboo against much older men dating very very young girls there. There isn't any strong taboo in Thailand against the same, either. Filipina girls are more loyal in my experience. But they also tend to react worse if you don't want to stay with them after the one-night stand or week-long fling. Anyway. It's a close call. All of the above generalizations are of course riddled with many exceptions.
TheyStoleMyName
08-29-10, 23:06
hi everyone,
i am obviously new to these forums. but hopefully someone here can answer these questions or point me to a resource.
i am an american currently in bulgaria. i have one month left on my holiday and i could go basically anywhere in europe.
what i would like to do is film some pov videos of me with some girls and *perhaps* put them online.
i don't know anything about the porn industry, but i've seen a lot of reality-type sites that are filmed in europe. public invasion is a good example. it's made to look like it's just a random girl he meets on the street, but besides that context, i am extremely curious as to how these guys for real meet such girls. all context aside, all money aside, it's still a guy fucking really hot girls. bottom line, at the end of the day, that's exactly how i want to spend my time. so my questions are these:
1. how are guys *for real* prospecting and getting girls for 'reality' porn?
2. what, legally, do i need to do *just in case* i want to put these videos online?
3. finally, where should i go to get the most bang for my buck? where are the hottest euro girls that want to suck and fuck on camera for the least money in return?reality porn sites are all fake.
i mean, of course, the girls on these sites are real girls. and they're really getting fucked by some guy. but those sites where they meet a girl at random on the street. or pick them up in a bus and talk them into having sex. or pretend they are casting them for porn but really just fuck them and post the video. etc. those are all complete bullshit.
that said, it's very easy to meet girls in poorer countries willing to fuck on camera for money. eastern europe, se asia and latin america are popular spots for amateur pornographers for this reason. and of course if you start up a business like this it's very possible to meet a girl at random somewhere, start a conversation, and talk them into fucking on camera.
if it's just you and a camera, you could probably get girls to do this for free, or 50 bucks or something like that.
real professional operations with decent sites pay more than that. maybe $300-$800 in poor countries like those i mentioned for a 4-6 hour session which is normal. if you pay like this (which is great money for those countries), and are professional and courteous in your dealings with the girls, it won't be hard to find more. they will tell their friends and word will get around. many of the girls who do this for a living are represented through various agencies, or work for clubs, or moonlight as escorts on the side, and you can find these girls on the internet.
if you want to make decent videos you'll also need a good camera with a good lens and some professional lighting equipment, or nobody is going to want to watch (much less pay for) your videos.
most common countries to cull girls from for work in porn in eastern europe are czech republic, slovakia, and to a lesser extent romania, poland, belarus, ukraine, moldova. but you could probably go pretty much anywhere. some countries it will be harder to find girls but it might be cheaper overall if nobody else is working there.
in western europe it will be more expensive to work there but denmark and the netherlands are also big centers of pornography production.
to avoid getting in legal trouble you need to research the laws in the country you are working in, make sure your models are over 18 and take photos and video of them with their id. that's just a start. if you actually make a website you need to do a lot more to really protect yourself. talk to a lawyer.
Gentleman Travel
08-30-10, 15:13
If you want to make decent videos you'll also need a good camera with a good lens and some professional lighting equipment, or nobody is going to want to watch (much less pay for) your videos.
Most common countries to cull girls from for work in porn in Eastern Europe are Czech Republic, Slovakia, and to a lesser extent Romania, Poland, Belarus, Ukraine, Moldova. But you could probably go pretty much anywhere. Some countries it will be harder to find girls but it might be cheaper overall if nobody else is working there.
St. Petersburg seems to be a good centre for this - semi-pro porn filmed cheaply.
There was a really good series of posts by Shelbysbaker about 2 years ago.
Search the St. P thread for "mixphoto" or "mixfoto" which was the agency he used. From what I recall, the whole things seemed amazingly cheap.
Argentina is not "far more expensive" than Thailand. Food is a bit more expensive and hotels are more expensive in Buenos Aires, but not so much elsewhere in the country. The cost of pussy and beer is remarkably similar between the two countries.
Is that a joke??
How much for a LT in Argentina? US$ 300 or something??
Thanks guys,
Jason M
ps, thailand was also good because when not mongering there were AMAZING beaches and fun activities to get up to.
Thaliland is your best bet for sure.
IMHO Argentina is your next alternative (after SE Asia) but with no beaches there with lots of night life though especially for the younger ones.
Paraguay is a cheap destination with nice looking gals but you'll get bored within a week or less. Brasil, Colombia and Peru come next. Africa if you like the real dark ones.
In Argentina try to book an apartment instead of hotel. It comes much cheaper.
John Dough
09-10-10, 00:35
I calculate the cost per session when travelling as being
(((airfare/days there)+(daily hotel price))/number of sessions per day) + session price
If you spend $1,000 on airfare, $100 per night for hotel, $50 per session, you stay for 10 days and have one session per day, the real cost is $250 per session, not $50.
What is your cheapest session cost including travel?
Money Is Cool
09-13-10, 08:08
China is added to those on my list. Been to many great places with great massage and FS with 8~10s for a good price (Hangzhou is strongly recommended).
Nothing in the world comes close to Thailand.
2. Philippines
3. Cambodia
4. Indonesia
DJ FourMoney
09-13-10, 09:39
I calculate the cost per session when travelling as being
(((airfare/days there)+(daily hotel price))/number of sessions per day) + session price
If you spend $1,000 on airfare, $100 per night for hotel, $50 per session, you stay for 10 days and have one session per day, the real cost is $250 per session, not $50.
What is your cheapest session cost including travel?
Travel Cost - $28 RT from Los Angeles to TJ (Add $2.50 for door to broader and back again)
Hotel Stay, I live here, I don't even pay rent - $Free
Session, Street Girl $25, Alternative $20+$5 for room but in local currency, so about $30US total.
Over all cost for sessions in TJ, Mexico - $78
Member #4148
09-17-10, 10:53
There is nothing outside of South East Asia that meets your requirements.Accra, Nairobi, Mombasa meet your requirements, and are the sine qua non of the darker-berry hobby.
Lollypoping
09-29-10, 16:41
Can anyone recommend any specific area in Asia?
I mean, not only the country but actually an area where I find everything in one place. I want a girl joining me and of course I am willing to compensate her and to pay her expenses during that time.
I calculate the cost per session when travelling as being
(((airfare/days there)+(daily hotel price))/number of sessions per day) + session price
If you spend $1,000 on airfare, $100 per night for hotel, $50 per session, you stay for 10 days and have one session per day, the real cost is $250 per session, not $50.
What is your cheapest session cost including travel?
Is poontang the only reason you're going on that vacation? Then I can't fault your reasoning. But it makes me cringe to pro-rate my trip costs into what I pay for each play.
Let's say I want to spend a week at a "tropical getaway" where I can go scuba-diving, spend time on the beach, lounge around and work on my tan. I can go to an "all-inclusive" in Puerto Plata, Dom Rep - where I can eat and get crocked to my heart's content, but my likeliest "close encounter" might be with an AW resembling Moby Dick in drag with a hangover - or I can go a little further down the highway to Costambar and Blackbeard's, where I pay as I go for meals and drinks but they also have chicas on the menu. Doesn't it make more sense for me to reckon the difference between these options as being the "true price per session" of my vacation?
Please don't take this as an argument. Just a different point of view.
I may just be mistaken here or maybe I just got my prices crossed up somewhere! If one was to go to Dominican Republic I believe an all nighter could cost you about 50-70USD where as in Thailand an all nighter THESE days can cost significantly more. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Or my plans are screwed up!
I believe an all nighter could cost you about 50-70USD where as in Thailand an all nighter THESE days can cost significantly more. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Or my plans are screwed up!
Thailand is cheaper than the DR. An all nighter in Pattaya costs between 1.000 and 1.500 Bath ($33-50). Hotels are 50% cheaper than in the DR and food as well.
Plus: About 50x more girls.
Member #4319
10-28-10, 22:43
Ok, thanks for all your advice and help.
I'm off to the far east in mid november (i'm yet to book any flights). I'll be with a friend who doesn't monger and probably looks down on it, so going to somewhere like Pattaya is out of the question.
I really want to check out some nice beaches, but also go to a place that has SOME interesting things to do for my buddy and I, but with some massage/p4p action on the side in the evenings for myself.
Considering I have about 10-14days out there, can anyone suggest a decent itinerary? I was hoping to head to Kuala Lumpur first, for a bit of culture and shopping, then maybe head to someplace in Phillipines? - nice beaches but with no problems getting p4p? Any recommendations on precise locations?
Is it feasible in 2 weeks to also go for a quick stop to some beaches in south Thailand? I was thinking Phuket maybe? I'd be more than happy to choose either Phillipines or Thailand (I've been to thailand once before) but I'm not sure how interesting places in the phillipines are. Similarly, is it easy to take a connecting flight from PI to Thai?
Lastly, I quite like the sound of Bali, anyone know what the scene there is like?
Thanks again,
JM
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