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True.
I don't mind women trying to set a precedent with this promise to marriage thing. I just want equity in the application of this precedent. What is good for the goose, is good for the gander.
That means that when a woman makes the promise of having sex (including specific sex acts) with a man, she needs to deliver on that promise or else she gets sued for damages!
I hope that US women don't start complaining even louder about committment phobia among men, when we stay even farther away from them. This is just another brick in the wall for nomarriage.com.
Happy Chappy
07-26-08, 00:46
Just for the record, I wasn't complaining about the so-called man drought - I just added it because, as you pointed out, it's a bit of a 'buzz word' here at the moment. Actually, I live in one of those isolated mining areas you mentioned and I can assure you...there ain't no man drought in these parts! ;)
I agree with everything you said about what Aussie women demand from Aussie men - but I could say exactly the same thing about you guys. A nympho with limited previous partners? Independent and smart, but subservient? A 30 year old with the boobs and thighs of a 19 year old? You only have to read the comments on this thread to see that some of you guys are definitely on a par with women in the fussy stakes!
PS. I wouldn't trade Aussie men for the world.
Yeah realise you were not complaining RN, but I refer to many other women I hear complaining. Yes we blokes can be fussy aswell I must admit!
However using the dating websites as an example. I think if the average guy was contaced by a girl on one of these he would be a much higher chance of agreeing to go on a date with that girl. In fact guys are lucky to be contaced at all, if they were they would probably jump at the opportunity. However I know that plenty of girls get many many emails on a daily basis from guys, yet they still wouldn't go out with any of them. Admittedly a lot of those emails may well be crude emails just after sex or something. However no matter what type of email a guy got, a lot of us would give things a chance anyway. I think that says a bit about overall fussiness.
Younger girls in their 20's can afford to be fussy. They can all usually get some company with good looking men. This is because young good looking men often are the "players" sharing themselves with many different women at the one time! Once they hit their 30's though, often these players settle down with the one girl. If one "player" was seeing 3 girls regularly one year and he decides to settle down with one, that leaves 2 girls who suddenly need to look for some company. Then the women realise they need to settle down and there is not so many men available. They then turn to the guys they previously ignored. However these days with globalization and jobs offshore, competitive airfares and ease in being offshore due to internet/email keeping in touch and the like, those guys have alternatives. They can not be bothered with the 30 somethings that previously gave them no time of day.
Once they hit their 30's though, often these players settle down with the one girl.
Except for the guys on this board, of course.
DJ FourMoney
07-26-08, 02:04
Except for the guys on this board, of course.
That is true, they have plenty of time. Only if people in Western Culture didn't have what I term - Time Management Issues...
Kids cause all types of time management issues. Okay for couples its accepted, but for single men its SUPPOSE to be understood and for many including me is understood but not accepted!
That puts childless single women at a premium and there behavior is accordingly; they are in control and can have the pick of the litter regardless of looks or weight.
That's what WE Western Men find impossible to deal with.
When something is lacking, be it looks, money, social status; you have to go down market, that opens it up for women that previously ignored you, or so they think...
The reality is as Ozzie said with the internet, affordable long distance calling and reasonable internetional airline tickets, your selection is no longer limited and while RN might love her Ozzie men, many Ozzie women are indifferent and actively seek Americans and Western Europeans along with dating locally.
Unfortunately many of the Ozzie women I find online are over 30 themselves... Where are all the tight thighed 20 somethings? lol I know one lady that looks pretty darn good to be 38 and has a body that puts younger women to shame (at least with her clothes on) but 38????
C'mon now!
Guys I hate to do this again. But America is not sex prison. I have childhood friends who since we where kids changed pussies like socks. Sadly I was never one of them (unattractive face, sub par social skills) at any rate I ventured out and found a second home in PI. Returned back to the States after a two year hiatus and my childhood friend had a picture of one of those dreaded American girls showing him her naked ass in his cell phone. Not a third world misses but a real lady with a career...What most of my friends had in common was that women found them attractive and they had the gift of gab it’s really elementary.
Well, I hope that was the case. But I would rather be skeptical. Although I have met a number of such guys who also supposedly changed pussies like socks. But guess what? Most of them almost never got any pussy in reality. Only one-two girls friends and a one got married so he probably had sex with his wife;) Many people in USA do lie about sex. These guys go to a club, talk or dance with a girl. Then they tell all kinds of stupid stories they they fucked her. They do not like to admit it, but once in awhile they do.
Well, I hope that was the case. But I would rather be skeptical. Although I have met a number of such guys who also supposedly changed pussies like socks. But guess what? Most of them almost never got any pussy in reality. Only one-two girls friends and a one got married so he probably had sex with his wife;) Many people in USA do lie about sex. These guys go to a club, talk or dance with a girl. Then they tell all kinds of stupid stories they they fucked her. They do not like to admit it, but once in awhile they do.
Yeah a lot of American guys tend to lie about their sexual conquest then look down on guys who pay for it. I wonder why that is? For me the time and effort required to get "normal" women out of their clothes is just not worth it. What can I say I am lazy and I am in a LTR which complicates things…
DJ FourMoney
07-27-08, 09:46
Well, I hope that was the case. But I would rather be skeptical. Although I have met a number of such guys who also supposedly changed pussies like socks. But guess what? Most of them almost never got any pussy in reality. Only one-two girls friends and a one got married so he probably had sex with his wife;) Many people in USA do lie about sex. These guys go to a club, talk or dance with a girl. Then they tell all kinds of stupid stories they they fucked her. They do not like to admit it, but once in awhile they do.
Here's what I have noticed in my limited travels....
Here in the USA -
Typical big city nightclubs hold about 1,500 people. When you eliminate the "Wall Flowers", women on their "Girl's Night Out" and Couples just out for the evening, you're left with around 700 people.
You can cut that number in half to about 350, the rest are ugly, fat, clueless and various other visual social flaws.
Now how many of those people actually go home with each other? I'd say less than 50%! AIDS and Herpes did put the brakes on "casual" sex but only SLIGHTLY to be honest, when the initial scare was over and more information was available people generally went back to what they were doing...
So out of 10 buddies and this is from personal experience where my crew was deep: about 6-7 constant members. At one point we went out 5 days a week including Sunday Night.
From 1988 through 1997 (When I met Nicole my ex) I count -
(1) from phone based match dating (no longer popular) no sex
(3) Internet "Freebie" fucks (single date/day arrangements)
(1) 100% One Night Stand (only sex I got from being a "DJ")
(1) Girlfriend for 3 months from "clubbing"
That's from 30-35 hours a week of nightclub action in what's the number #2 or #3 club/nightclub scene in the nation. I'm not that aggressive however I'm not all that shy either, as you see success rate is QUITE LOW.
Now in all that is plenty of hours of phone calls, dates, meetings, whatever.
Since I left my GF in Sept of '00 till now, I've been out clubbing maybe 10-12 times since, about 2 club visits a year if that, usually left by Midnight-1AM if things weren't looking that good, I was having more success on the Internet.
Still not getting laid with the frequency I did when I was in a relationship, thus my reasoning that despite all the risks and pitfalls that can happen to a person in a relationship.
Even the BEST Playas I KNOW/KNEW only got laid from a different woman maybe ONCE every 2-3 weeks! They had "Regulars" they always do, women desperate to "lock down" these guys because they feel they can reform playas.
To his credit he wasn't a typical "Bad Boy"; college educated, ran track at college was in excellent shape (still is). But constantly had no car or a POS, worked a menial job at Tower Records during college and after college (what was the purpose of a degree???), DJ'ed on the side (inferior skill level compared to muah) but had ummm two or three woman constantly on his jock, those would be his "regulars"
He was never aggressive meeting women and left plenty of opportunities on the table.
That being said he still wasn't PROLIFIC as other men CLAIM to be and YES they LIE because it helps them to feel BETTER about their mating skills, which most men LACK anyway.
So its all a lie!
If your in another country where sex is looked at differently then I wouldn't find it hard to believe you're getting laid for free much more than once a week from a woman you just met.
USA IS and remains a Sex Prison, One of my homies claims 60+ women in about 12 years of nightclub activity, along with owning sport bikes when there was no helmet law in California and the annual gathering in Palm Springs for Spring Break was excellent opportunity to find ready and willing women for example.
Those days are LONG gone and will never come back!
here is my USA statistics for about 10 years of suffering:)
Internet - probably about 4-5 'successes'. Still had to spend a lot of money for travel and going out. Most of them were Russians in the USA.
I also met two American women on the internet. Both of them were different from their pictures. One turned out to be 10 years older than on the pic. The other one turned out to be overweight(of course for USA she got perfect body:-). Even though she says she wants to date me, in one year(!) I was able to have one date with her! It's not like I really want that, it's more for experiment, just to see where it can lead. so far - nowhere.
One Night Stand - never. I probably had some opportunities, but those girls were either fat/ugly/old
Night Clubs/Bars. - One black girl. She looked hot when in darkness and I was also drunk. Later she turned out to be quite old and disgusting.
A house party - One buttugly American girl. I was young and just wanted to do her just to have fucked ate least one American girl.
All my other girls in the USA were Russians, Japanese, Brazileans
Even Russian and latin girls are kinda messed up in the USA compared to their home countries, but still they are much more normal than American.
Once in a while I meet some American girls, I get their phones or emails, even they tell me how they like me and ask to call them. But it is next to impossible to arrange anything with them. Like I have to book them months ahead. Or most likely they have there guard on again the next day I after they give me their phone.
Some my friends used to laugh at me because I travel to Europe, Asia, Latin America/caribe. They could not understand why I spend so much money to go somewhere and have sex. They were saying it is free in America!
They do not laugh at me anymore. In almost 10 years, one of them is still with the same girlfriend, another one also with one fat ugly girl, and another friend is married - I'm 100% sure he had never had sex before marriage. BTW they are good looking successful guys, and they considered themselves "players".
I have no idea what is wrong with this country. I'm sure the problem is not only in myself. I have several beautiful girlfriends in Russia, Ukraine and now in Colombia. And those girls are not for money or marriage(as some would assume). They are very successful and happy in their home countries and do not want to move anywhere(they are actually asking me to move closer to them), and one of them is married and has a kid. She is also a part time photo model. Another one(from Moscow) wants to travel with me and pay for the hotel after I told her that I do not have much money for travel now.
I cannot understand why this type of girls virtually do not exist in the USA. By this "type" I mean nice, not bitchy, beautiful, sincere, who like and understand men and without "hidden agenda".
What I see here, girls are busy with their stuff. They also prefer food to men.
Often you can see a whale eating an ice cream or french fries. Or often there are girls who are about to become whales, but they still order huge plates of crap. My ex-wife when i met her used to eat about 10 times less!
And what's funny they(the whales) are really proud of themselves. Unbelievable!
I also have seen funny things, such as like there was a bad looking girl working in a bar. And one guy(seemed to be very nice) wanted to have a date with her, get her phone etc.. She refused! She did not even smile. I could not believe my eyes. This would never happen in Europe or Latin America or whatever.
And the last funny observation. I think only in America you can see so many good-looking successful guys with ugly girlfriends or wifes. On one of my trips to Curacao I was sitting next to a couple. The guy was pretty normal, better than average looking. Man, the girl was a nasty whale and looked pissed. I was really sorry to this guy. He had to fuck that thing. I believe it was their honeymoon or something. But he probably had no clue what he was missing in Curacao anyway.
I'm done whining for now;) I hope that was entertaining:)
Yeah a lot of American guys tend to lie about their sexual conquest then look down on guys who pay for it. I wonder why that is? For me the time and effort required to get "normal" women out of their clothes is just not worth it. What can I say I am lazy and I am in a LTR which complicates things…
Yes, for me too. Economically it is cheaper to go to a AMP once a week, and to fly to another country for 3-5 days a month than date a "normal" girl. The problem is not only how much time/money you spend with her, it is also how much time you think about her which is bad for your work or business, which makes even more damage to you!
For now I settled with an older women in the USA. She's not gonna get married or have kids, she does not need support. Hopefully this will free my mind a bit. I tried to get younger chics, but they are really pain in the ass(in the USA).
One my friend works in a construction biz. he just realized that it is much better to go to AMP, then trying to hook up with "normals". Now he is happier than ever. he finally managed to calculate all costs and results. he also remembers his ex-wife, when he was spending all money on her, in return getting scandals, and in the very end jail time from his mother-in law! his marriage ruined his credit history, plus a criminal record!
BTW, my former marriage was next to perfect;) I did not buy any engagement rings, had a mutual account from where we paid our bills, so she could see that the life is not free and paid for it. And the divorce was almost perfect without lawyers.
DJ FourMoney
07-28-08, 03:59
Its layered under other problems and believe it or not they are all LINKED!
The surprising behavior of ugly and/or overweight women is a bit shocking and you sometimes want to say - "Are You Serious????"
How come many of them say you're somehow less of a man for not dating overweight women?
That shit is incredible, I want whatever they are smoking that is some good shhh!
Now I'm all for having self-respect and all that, however; fat bitches should be giving up the pussy much easier than they do, but they wait for some fat man (which many of them don't want) or a "chubby chaser" to scoop them up and overlook the oozing flesh... The rest of them target African-Americans because there's this rumor taken completely out of context that we like women with some "meat" on their bones or woman with a big booty.
Its true but taken out of context!
American men like many people in America have convinced themselves that not working with the "rules of engagement" in whatever the game may be, your not fully American, human, male, whatever if you won't "gut" it out with the rest of us and find that perfect pebble of sand...
That's utter NONSENSE!
Look, you stay here, you marry that fat *****, ugly mousey tramp, mentally challenged, gold diggin hoe's which give American women a BAD NAME but make up the VAST majority.
I have to be extreme now because I wouldn't take risk when I was younger and I have suffered sexually because of it. So anybody that says I'm crazy can kiss my natural black ass; they don't live a DAY in my shoes!
Starchild2012
07-28-08, 19:47
here is my USA statistics for about 10 years of suffering:)
LOL....Thats was funny and interesting to read your perspective...Honestly i have come to point..where i being dejected, decieved, insulted, heartbroken so many times now..that i simply love women...who thinks me as dumpster worth nothing.
I just now love the way, i get dejected, i actually get a kick now and has a fetish for women..who just ignore me as if i dont exist on this planet :D
Even going to a H**ker i dont expect much..cos most of the time..its money not service that they like..but i dont know lately i feel good..when the h**kers after taking the money provide crappy service. :)
In reality...its being like 10 years since...i have really known what love is..its either money for sex or love for money
I now actually EXPECT for worse service for me to feel good. :D
Its too much struggle all the time being expecting good things in life...why not exbrace the bad, the ugly..its much easier....i have totally excepted the the lot i got in this life.....now i feel elevated when im shown the worse down the barrel :D
The rest of them target African-Americans because there's this rumor taken completely out of context that we like women with some "meat" on their bones or woman with a big booty.
Its true but taken out of context!
It's unbelievable the number of OBESE White American women who assume Black men like them. I'm not going to even talk about the large numbers of OBESE African American women out there. Here's one Black guy, who's NOT interested. To be fair, I will not date any woman, White, Black, Brown, Yellow etc who is WIDER than me or weighs more than me PERIOD. Same standard applies to p4p women as well.
Lest we forget there are whole bunch of American Men(Black, White, Brown) who are Obese. I rarely see Obese Asian men or women.
The U.S has more Obese people than any other country in the world.
DJ FourMoney
07-29-08, 00:39
It's unbelievable the number of OBESE White American women who assume Black men like them. I'm not going to even talk about the large numbers of OBESE African American women out there. Here's one Black guy, who's NOT interested. To be fair, I will not date any woman, White, Black, Brown, Yellow etc who is WIDER than me or weighs more than me PERIOD. Same standard applies to p4p women as well.
The U.S has more Obese people than any other country in the world.
Actually I recently heard that Australia has the fattest people. But on IR dating sites I find mostly old Australian women most are not fat, that's interesting.
Mississippi has the MOST fat people, not shocking really...
Why would you PAY to fuck a FAT CHICK???? That makes NO SENSE at all. Why would you pay to fuck a OLD CHICK? That makes NO SENSE at all.
Both are easy to get, not even much effort is NEEDED.
Older Women don't tend to play games, they either wanna fuck you or don't and let you know that's the case. They are cheap dates too, a night at Outback Steak House, some cheap wine and deep, down inside, deep, deep down inside you'll be...lol
Fat chicks; just find your local BBW specfic Nightclub, every major city has ONE. Pretend to be really into overweight chicks, it might take a few tries but inside of two dates you could be fucking, low cost..
I'd say from personal experience both ventures would cost you less than $200 in food, gas and booze. There have been times when I have spent NOTHING, contacted them online, within a week I was over their house or apartment and within an hour we were FUCKING. Gas was under $3 a gallon so total cost to drive from my house to Upland, CA (I did three different women in that area at different times) cost me JUST GAS MONEY ($15), oh wait I took one to Dave and Buster's...lol
The Hungraian girl I know locally is chubby but very attractive otherwise, kept herself very clean, she tanned on a regular basis and looked good even on her off days.
If your going to fuck fat women she doesn't have to be nasty and ugly..lol
But I'm done with that BS....
CBGBConnisur
07-29-08, 14:53
I actually live in Australia, obesity is defined much more strictly than it is in the USA. A person considered slightly overweight in the US would be considered obese in the US.
Honestly there are fat Aussies but most people I see on a given day are nowhere near as fat as some of the farm animals you see in the States.
CBGBConnisur
07-29-08, 14:59
Actually I recently heard that Australia has the fattest people. But on IR dating sites I find mostly old Australian women most are not fat, that's interesting.
Mississippi has the MOST fat people, not shocking really...
Why would you PAY to fuck a FAT CHICK???? That makes NO SENSE at all. Why would you pay to fuck a OLD CHICK? That makes NO SENSE at all.
Both are easy to get, not even much effort is NEEDED.
Older Women don't tend to play games, they either wanna fuck you or don't and let you know that's the case. They are cheap dates too, a night at Outback Steak House, some cheap wine and deep, down inside, deep, deep down inside you'll be...lol
Fat chicks; just find your local BBW specfic Nightclub, every major city has ONE. Pretend to be really into overweight chicks, it might take a few tries but inside of two dates you could be fucking, low cost..
I'd say from personal experience both ventures would cost you less than $200 in food, gas and booze. There have been times when I have spent NOTHING, contacted them online, within a week I was over their house or apartment and within an hour we were FUCKING. Gas was under $3 a gallon so total cost to drive from my house to Upland, CA (I did three different women in that area at different times) cost me JUST GAS MONEY ($15), oh wait I took one to Dave and Buster's...lol
The Hungraian girl I know locally is chubby but very attractive otherwise, kept herself very clean, she tanned on a regular basis and looked good even on her off days.
If your going to fuck fat women she doesn't have to be nasty and ugly..lol
But I'm done with that BS....
That is one pathetic way to live.
If your going to fuck fat women she doesn't have to be nasty and ugly..lol
But I'm done with that BS....
I guess that's a matter of taste.
For me, if a woman is fat, she is already nasty and ugly! By definition! No matter what!
In most cases it means she is lasy, she will agree for fuck with anybody, she eats a lot, she farts a lot, she shits a lot, smells, etc.. Fat chicks snore a lot and loudly! They have big lungs or something so they make great singers but also make lots of nasty noise at night. This is all nasty and not attractive at all!
She takes a lot of space on bed, can harm you if she is on top.. And this is all in addition to that I do not even wanna look at her, and next to impossible to get a hard on. I think the only way to fuck a fattie is a BJ, in case if she's got a beautiful BJ face, and somehow you do not see the rest of her body.
Is another man's gold. It really doesn't matter that much who or what you get as far as AW. If you are fortunate enough to get some, take it. I sure beats traveling to meet someone who suits our taste from time to time. My opinion really has nothing to do with anything, it is just a matter of conditioning and time. It reminds me of that last minute pick up at out favorite drinking establishment: You are completely slushing of vodka, whiskey, vermouth, whatever you drink. Butt ugly AW begin looking really good if you are out of your senses. From my perpective, there isn't enough alcohol in the United States to make one of them beeffalos look great, but you get the point. It is a matter of perspective, time aand conditioning. Anyone will sink real low from time to time especially under the dreadful situations we face day in and day out.
I guess that's a matter of taste.
For me, if a woman is fat, she is already nasty and ugly! By definition! No matter what!
In most cases it means she is lasy, she will agree for fuck with anybody, she eats a lot, she farts a lot, she shits a lot, smells, etc.. Fat chicks snore a lot and loudly! They have big lungs or something so they make great singers but also make lots of nasty noise at night. This is all nasty and not attractive at all!
She takes a lot of space on bed, can harm you if she is on top.. And this is all in addition to that I do not even wanna look at her, and next to impossible to get a hard on. I think the only way to fuck a fattie is a BJ, in case if she's got a beautiful BJ face, and somehow you do not see the rest of her body.
DJ FourMoney
07-29-08, 20:44
That is one pathetic way to live.
It was, I no longer do that. I rather not have sex than to have it with such beings.
I've hadn't had sex since I left Germany last summer.
Its not fun, I seldom felt good about it, though the last girl was as I said attractive otherwise and not a farm animal.
Those days are long gone and I'm never going back...
DJ FourMoney
07-29-08, 20:52
Is another man's gold. It really doesn't matter that much who or what you get as far as AW. If you are fortunate enough to get some, take it. I sure beats traveling to meet someone who suits our taste from time to time. My opinion really has nothing to do with anything, it is just a matter of conditioning and time. It reminds me of that last minute pick up at out favorite drinking establishment: You are completely slushing of vodka, whiskey, vermouth, whatever you drink. Butt ugly AW begin looking really good if you are out of your senses. From my perpective, there isn't enough alcohol in the United States to make one of them beeffalos look great, but you get the point. It is a matter of perspective, time aand conditioning. Anyone will sink real low from time to time especially under the dreadful situations we face day in and day out.
This is true and while some may say fat is not attractive, I agree. But some of the ugly tramps some guys trout out as "attractive" native girls from other countries ain't so hot to look at either.
So its totally to each his own. I made a choice years ago, fuck or not. When thinner girls aren't giving it up, what are you suppose to do, break out your wallet??
Money doesn't solve everything and usually creates more problems than it solves.
I never felt I should have to pay for it. As I got older, I felt differently about it. I rather go without sex period now days. Local P4P cost too much...
One Day Only Specials from the Blond Hair Blue Eyed Ebony Bombshell - w4m - 29 (400-Atlanta)
Just came across this ad title on CL. This is one fu*ked up AW for sure!!!! ........Blonde Hair, Blue eyes, and an Ebony bombshell.
I guess that's a matter of taste.
For me, if a woman is fat, she is already nasty and ugly! By definition! No matter what!
In most cases it means she is lasy, she will agree for fuck with anybody, she eats a lot, she farts a lot, she shits a lot, smells, etc.. Fat chicks snore a lot and loudly! They have big lungs or something so they make great singers but also make lots of nasty noise at night. This is all nasty and not attractive at all!
She takes a lot of space on bed, can harm you if she is on top.. And this is all in addition to that I do not even wanna look at her, and next to impossible to get a hard on. I think the only way to fuck a fattie is a BJ, in case if she's got a beautiful BJ face, and somehow you do not see the rest of her body.LMFAO Goga fung.
Tell us how you really feel about "BBW's". So if Heidi Klum gains 50lbs you would kick her out of bed? JK. Not into BBW's myself.
It's unbelievable the number of OBESE White American women who assume Black men like them. I'm not going to even talk about the large numbers of OBESE African American women out there. Here's one Black guy, who's NOT interested. To be fair, I will not date any woman, White, Black, Brown, Yellow etc who is WIDER than me or weighs more than me PERIOD. Same standard applies to p4p women as well.
Lest we forget there are whole bunch of American Men(Black, White, Brown) who are Obese. I rarely see Obese Asian men or women.
The U.S has more Obese people than any other country in the world.
Why the fuck are you capitalizing the word "obese"? Now they're going to think they are Special. Also how come you brothers get to capitalize Black? If I capitalize White I will get all kinds of shit, like I'm with the Aryan Nation or something.
Hey I heard a funny characterization of Obama today: "Half honky, all donkey (Democrat)." Remember before I was bitching about why is everyone saying he is black or Black when he's just as much white? I laughed my ass off when I heard that.
Why the fuck are you capitalizing the word "obese"? Now they're going to think they are Special. Also how come you brothers get to capitalize Black? If I capitalize White I will get all kinds of shit, like I'm with the Aryan Nation or something.
Hey I heard a funny characterization of Obama today: "Half honky, all donkey (Democrat)." Remember before I was bitching about why is everyone saying he is black or Black when he's just as much white? I laughed my ass off when I heard that.
Hey DICKHEAD go take a chill pill.....It obvious you have issues with Black people.
No way Jose. BTW I am voting for Obama, not that this proves anything. I just think if you reverse all of this stuff it just shows how equal it all is. I mean what is next? Capitalizing Fat? I can see the ad on Craig's List now: "I am a very sexy Fat woman looking for a Rich man who is very Stupid."
I understand capitalizing African American. I just don't understand capitalizing Black. Help me out on this one.
No way Jose. BTW I am voting for Obama, not that this proves anything. I just think if you reverse all of this stuff it just shows how equal it all is. I mean what is next? Capitalizing Fat? I can see the ad on Craig's List now: "I am a very sexy Fat woman looking for a Rich man who is very Stupid."
I understand capitalizing African American. I just don't understand capitalizing Black. Help me out on this one.
If you notice in my post.....I capitalized White, Brown, Black etc. I don't see this as an issue at all.
I never felt I should have to pay for it. As I got older, I felt differently about it.
Let's face it..... there's two basic kinds of guys. Those who pay for it, and those who beg for it.
Haha, I've seen so many so-called "players" who think they've "got game" when really they're totally in category number two.
Even if I was single, my time is worth way too much to me. I'd rather pick the one I like and pay for it than be wasting uncounted hours trying to convince some average girl to do me for free.
Speaking of average girls, has anyone seen the cover of this week's Time magazine? They have a pic of a female athlete who's on the US swim team. She has the hottest body, we're talking real hot. Oh, by the way..... did I mention that she has a 2 year old kid? Did I also mention she's 41? Yes, that's right.... a smoking hot, 41 yr old who is also a mother. And she has the kind of body that puts girls half her age to shame. Her name is Dana Torres.
That kind of rips the heart out of all the excuses most AWs/western women like to make. "I just don't have the time" .... well try being a mom while training for the olympics. "I can't help it, things change after having a baby" .... OH really? "You can't expect me to look perfect.... I'm not a teenager anymore." Hahahaha, all you AWs should take a good close look at 41 year old Dana next time you want to try and make up some excuse for being fat and out of shape.
I'm hoping she does a shoot for Playboy (after the olys of course).
Rock
If you notice in my post.....I capitalized White, Brown, Black etc. I don't see this as an issue at all.
OK, Just don't capitalize Obese cuz then they will think they are a fucking tribe or something and will demand Special Treatment. In my (ex) state they can already get handicapped parking permits if they are (I forget) something like 100 lbs. overweight. And, they can use handicapped restrooms. Anyone else ever wonder how people like that can wipe their ass? I mean, their arms don't reach. Plus if the ass barely fits on the toilet seat, wouldn't the cheeks get squeezed together, and wouldn't that make a big mess while they were trying to squeeze out some oversized turd?
I'm just sayin'.
Let's face it..... there's two basic kinds of guys. Those who pay for it, and those who beg for it.
Haha, I've seen so many so-called "players" who think they've "got game" when really they're totally in category number two.
Even if I was single, my time is worth way too much to me. I'd rather pick the one I like and pay for it than be wasting uncounted hours trying to convince some average girl to do me for free.
Rock
"Pay for it or beg for it."
I never thought it about it like that. Mongering has been a real eye opener for me. One bad thing about it though. Is that I don't value women as much. I don’t know if that’s a bad or good thing. I put up with all type of shit from my Ex-until I discovered P4P after that I was like I don’t need this shit. Thanks Natasha where ever you are. (My first P4P experience 20 year old Russian in Uzbekistan.)
Tarius Shinobi
07-30-08, 04:48
Ta da! It's called "How to look good naked".
Yeah baby!
OK, Just don't capitalize Obese cuz then they will think they are a fucking tribe or something and will demand Special Treatment. In my (ex) state they can already get handicapped parking permits if they are (I forget) something like 100 lbs. overweight. And, they can use handicapped restrooms. Anyone else ever wonder how people like that can wipe their ass? I mean, their arms don't reach. Plus if the ass barely fits on the toilet seat, wouldn't the cheeks get squeezed together, and wouldn't that make a big mess while they were trying to squeeze out some oversized turd?
I'm just sayin'.
hahaha, this is hilarious! I think the problem is that they invented handicapped facilities before there were enough handicapped people to use them. Now people see that the life would be much easier if you're handicapped! So they do not mind to get out of shape and live in haven;)
But anyway, why concentrate so much on obese girls? How about normal ones? So far what I have learned about American girls, one of the things they all have in common - a boyfriend! No matter how she looks, ways, ages, every girl got a boyfriend. Even thought she spend all nights with their girlfriends drinking in bars or watching stupid movies, but still they have boyfriends! I still cannot figure out where the hell all their boyfriends are? or "I have a boyfriend" just some slang, meaning "I'm a frigid *****, so go fuck yourself?';)
I have heard these from 18 y.o, 20, 30, 40... from ugly ones too. This is really amazing!
Of course I exaggerated a bit, but that's the impression I have got.
BTW, I recently met a good-looking Russian woman, and she is asking me if I got a friend for her girlfriend. Damn, why do they come in pairs at the same time, both available and horny;)
Naked Gunz
07-30-08, 08:10
So far what I have learned about American girls, one of the things they all have in common - a boyfriend! No matter how she looks, ways,
Just helping you---- weighs --
< ages, every girl got a boyfriend. Even thought she spend all nights with their girlfriends drinking in bars or watching stupid movies, but still they have boyfriends! I still cannot figure out where the hell all their boyfriends are? or "I have a boyfriend" just some slang, meaning "I'm a frigid *****, so go fuck yourself?';)
I have heard these from 18 y.o, 20, 30, 40... from ugly ones too. This is really amazing!Of course you know this is the cunts way of saying you are not good enough for me, and will never be. But in her mind, she is sparing your feelings.
You are not: rich
Brad Pitt
the right race,
cute enough for her friends to be haters
white enough for her family
wearing non-fucked up shoes, (uggghhh!)
funny at the time we met!
being so funny!
keeping your eyes on me, vice other tits and ass!
OMG...UR A PIG!
OK, Just don't capitalize Obese cuz then they will think they are a fucking tribe or something and will demand Special Treatment. In my (ex) state they can already get handicapped parking permits if they are (I forget) something like 100 lbs. overweight. And, they can use handicapped restrooms. Anyone else ever wonder how people like that can wipe their ass? I mean, their arms don't reach. Plus if the ass barely fits on the toilet seat, wouldn't the cheeks get squeezed together, and wouldn't that make a big mess while they were trying to squeeze out some oversized turd?
I'm just sayin'.To be fair about this......there are just as many obese men as there are obese women.
CBGBConnisur
07-30-08, 15:14
Of course you know this is the cunts way of saying you are not good enough for me, and will never be. But in her mind, she is sparing your feelings.
You are not: rich
Brad Pitt
the right race,
cute enough for her friends to be haters
white enough for her family
wearing non-fucked up shoes, (uggghhh!)
funny at the time we met!
being so funny!
keeping your eyes on me, vice other tits and ass!
OMG...UR A PIG!
Few white American women will go with an Asian guy, despite all this multiculti bull*shit and all the media hype saying the USA is a racially harmonious country because Obama might become President, most people of different races in the US stick with their own kind. European women and Aussie women will date outside their own kind and I have seen it quite often.
America is such a brainwashed and messed up hypocritical country now finally on the verge of its demise, I am glad I no longer live there. The only thing that tied together such a nation was money, now with that credit crunch and the falling Dollar that is going away. Its too bad the majority of Americans are actually good people let themselves be brainwashed by the upper crust and are falling for their games. First we got Bush, now we are going to get Bush-lite in the form of Obama or McCain. Heck with that.
thanks for making me laugh guys.
except to dickhead, for giving me the lovely imagery of fatties trying to [CodeWord116] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116). not what i needed to start the day.
it's true that the obese are now grabbing all the goodies formerly reserved for the handicapped. so now they are engaged in discrimination lawsuits, demanding free upgrades on planes, using parking passes to park without having to feed the meter, getting government-paid motor-wheelchairs, etc. wonderful use of my tax $.
so true about dana torres. http://www.bestlifeonline.com/cms/publish/health-fitness/the_body_creating_ripples.shtml
i go to a highly demanding yoga class. plenty of women there in their 40's - 50's who've had children and work full-time. they all have firm flat tummies and tight little asses, look 20 years younger than the average aw. so much for all the lame excuses i hear daily from fugly aw's.
and now mexico is following our lead. 25 years ago obesity there was nearly unheard of. now over 60% of the adult population is obese. makes me less likely to head south...
To be fair about this......there are just as many obese men as there are obese women.
More, actually, at least in the US:
"More men than women were overweight or obese (68.8 percent vs. 61.6 percent in 2001–2002)"
http://epirev.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/29/1/6/TBL1
Right below this quote is a more detailed table. More women than men are "extremely obese." This article differentiates among overweight, obese, and extremely obese. It shows the trend (bad) between two different survey periods, and it breaks the three degrees of fatness down along both gender and ethnic lines.
DJ FourMoney
07-30-08, 22:16
Why the fuck are you capitalizing the word "obese"? Now they're going to think they are Special. Also how come you brothers get to capitalize Black? If I capitalize White I will get all kinds of shit, like I'm with the Aryan Nation or something.
Hey I heard a funny characterization of Obama today: "Half honky, all donkey (Democrat)." Remember before I was bitching about why is everyone saying he is black or Black when he's just as much white? I laughed my ass off when I heard that.
LOL, that's funny. I never cared, we have differences, so what.
We generally agree on what's important 90% which makes this forum function much better than many others where there's constant attacking going on.
Funny you should mention it though...
DJ FourMoney
07-30-08, 22:29
Hell I met a girl at work; very cute, preg, 19 and BF nowhere to be found and she wasn't interested.
I was the wrong color I would guess...
I know don't know who told women that men rather have "code" than the truth. The truth will set you free and we men (unlike most women) can handle the truth, we'll move on to the next target, but women rather make as wonder what the fuck is wrong with us... When of course there's nothing wrong with you, unless you really are out the lunch.
Yogin is right about "some" older women, better put together than many younger women. It really depends what your after though. Might be a good idea for those not looking for nothing more than a companion.
South America, Central America, Asia and most of Western and Eastern Europe our are only salvation from madness.
If Obama opens up Cuba, then maybe you can add that too...
"I know don't know who told women that men rather have "code" than the truth. The truth will set you free and we men (unlike most women) can handle the truth,"
Exactly. Fuck code. Tell me what's on your mind and we'll go from there. Don't waste my time. I don't have that much of it left at this point. This what is great about mongering. Suppose I really, really want to cum in some chica's ear (I don't). Or whatever. How long do you suppose it would take for me to bring that up with a GF and what do you think would happen when I did?
Had a conversation in a privado recently: "Can I come in your mouth?" "Yes." "Can I come in your face?" "Yes." "Can I come in your hair?" "No." Fine; it's your hair and your face and your mouth. She had really nice thick black hair and I wanted to see how it would look with a bunch of baby batter in it, but she gave me several other acceptable alternatives.
The amount of delicate emotional surgery that has to be performed on a daily basis to have a GF is just beyond me at this point.
"Or whatever. How long do you suppose it would take for me to bring that up with a GF and what do you think would happen when I did?
Yeap! This reminds me when "cool" guys imply that those who pay for sex are losers, but if you think those "cool" guys will never get what you can get for money, they are even bigger losers! They are probably allowed/required to lick the hairy pussy, but not much more;)
Had a conversation in a privado recently: "Can I come in your mouth?" "Yes." "Can I come in your face?" "Yes." "Can I come in your hair?" "No." Fine; it's your hair and your face and your mouth. She had really nice thick black hair and I wanted to see how it would look with a bunch of baby batter in it, but she gave me several other acceptable alternatives.
The amount of delicate emotional surgery that has to be performed on a daily basis to have a GF is just beyond me at this point.
I'm sure you could the butter in the hair thing. It's all a matter of money, Especially hair is not a big deal. Not like ass.
Sometimes $20 or so can do amazing things with those girls;)
BTW I was spending $$$$ on my wife when was married, and I think my wife still hated me for what I wanted to get from her in sex. I also wanted to give her whatever she wanted, by she had no clue what she wanted. If she wanted at all. So who is the most expensive and unsatisfied *****?:)
Oh she offered me her ass, no problem. Not my thing.
Tarius Shinobi
07-31-08, 01:19
Yeah Baby, Yeah! Groovy.
Mongering has been a real eye opener for me. One bad thing about it though. Is that I don't value women as much. I don’t know if that’s a bad or good thing.
Why should it be a bad thing? I mean really..... think about it this way.
Any man could get by for a year without any p*ssy if he really had to. How many women could go a whole year without any money?
Women are completely overvalued in this part of the world IMHO. The real prize (everywhere else) is, and should be, a man with a steady good paying job. Good looking girls are a dime a dozen.
Rock
"I know don't know who told women that men rather have "code" than the truth. The truth will set you free and we men (unlike most women) can handle the truth,"
Exactly. Fuck code. Tell me what's on your mind and we'll go from there. Don't waste my time. I don't have that much of it left at this point. This what is great about mongering. Suppose I really, really want to cum in some chica's ear (I don't). Or whatever. How long do you suppose it would take for me to bring that up with a GF and what do you think would happen when I did?
Had a conversation in a privado recently: "Can I come in your mouth?" "Yes." "Can I come in your face?" "Yes." "Can I come in your hair?" "No." Fine; it's your hair and your face and your mouth. She had really nice thick black hair and I wanted to see how it would look with a bunch of baby batter in it, but she gave me several other acceptable alternatives.
The amount of delicate emotional surgery that has to be performed on a daily basis to have a GF, or conversate with random females is just beyond me at this point.
Some recent examples of code words and games that I deal with on a daily basis are:
"I am very ambitious." - Used by a Viet chick as she flaked her way out of my life on to supposed greener pastures.
"
The club was in a bad area of Dallas, but the crowd was very upscale." The upscale word meaning she only associates with people who have money. This from a chick who loves Asian-fusion lunches at Nongs on Park.
"You cant afford me!!!" This was told to my dawg Glen from Bed-Stuy by a chick he knows who lives in the projects. Sex and the City attitudes are mainstream now.
"My Mother/sister/aunt was sick and I had to go with her to the hospital." Usual copout on a date at the last minute I have experienced along with others fellows telling me similar.
"I have a boyfriend." said in a way that reminds me of when I tell a panhandler I have no change. Example being "Well I plan to graduate in June, and my boyfriend is in the truck downstairs, and then I will be all finished with school." or, "My boyfriend took me to Las Vegas for a few days..." Usually you know they have a boyfriend within 90 seconds of the interaction.
When the chick wears a hat, sunglasses, Ipod, or pulls out the celly, she doesn't want a social interaction with you for fear of being asked out. And why wouldn't you ask her out because she is such a hot AW, thats why. This drama occurs everyday to me waiting for an elevator, subway, bus,etc.
"I don't think thats something you need to know." Told to me last week when after about a 110 second unpleasant interaction I had the balls to ask her where she liked to travel.
"He's so old." - Unless he is driving a Porsche or lives in a mansion ala Hugh Hefner, than it is OK.
"I'm real busy", "I am always tired", and "I work alot." Mentioned as soon as possible in the interaction to let the guy know not to ask for a date.
"Honey alot of guys call me I don't remember you." Told to a friend after meeting a girl in a club and calling her a couple days later.
"I like to have fun." Meaning spend money and go to clubs where she gets in for free and has guys buy her and her friends drinks all night while she dickteases everybody.
This is why I'm single and prefer the p4p scene. I screw when I want, with who I want, without the drama of a relationship......life is so gooooood!!!!!!
Some recent examples of code words and games that I deal with on a daily basis are:
"I am very ambitious." - Used by a Viet chick as she flaked her way out of my life on to supposed greener pastures.
"
The club was in a bad area of Dallas, but the crowd was very upscale." The upscale word meaning she only associates with people who have money. This from a chick who loves Asian-fusion lunches at Nongs on Park.
"You cant afford me!!!" This was told to my dawg Glen from Bed-Stuy by a chick he knows who lives in the projects. Sex and the City attitudes are mainstream now.
"My Mother/sister/aunt was sick and I had to go with her to the hospital." Usual copout on a date at the last minute I have experienced along with others fellows telling me similar.
"I have a boyfriend." said in a way that reminds me of when I tell a panhandler I have no change. Example being "Well I plan to graduate in June, and my boyfriend is in the truck downstairs, and then I will be all finished with school." or, "My boyfriend took me to Las Vegas for a few days..." Usually you know they have a boyfriend within 90 seconds of the interaction.
When the chick wears a hat, sunglasses, Ipod, or pulls out the celly, she doesn't want a social interaction with you for fear of being asked out. And why wouldn't you ask her out because she is such a hot AW, thats why. This drama occurs everyday to me waiting for an elevator, subway, bus,etc.
"I don't think thats something you need to know." Told to me last week when after about a 110 second unpleasant interaction I had the balls to ask her where she liked to travel.
"He's so old." - Unless he is driving a Porsche or lives in a mansion ala Hugh Hefner, than it is OK.
"I'm real busy", "I am always tired", and "I work alot." Mentioned as soon as possible in the interaction to let the guy know not to ask for a date.
"Honey alot of guys call me I don't remember you." Told to a friend after meeting a girl in a club and calling her a couple days later.
"I like to have fun." Meaning spend money and go to clubs where she gets in for free and has guys buy her and her friends drinks all night while she dickteases everybody.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25955847/?GT1=43001
What a bunch of assholes. And with taxpayer money.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25955847/?GT1=43001
What a bunch of assholes. And with taxpayer money.
This is a sad legacy of inbreeding southern style.....Inbred human beings tend to do stupid things.
Some recent examples of code words and games that I deal with on a daily basis are:........
"I am very ambitious." - Used by a Viet chick as she flaked her way out of my life on to supposed greener pastures.
"
........"I like to have fun." Meaning spend money and go to clubs where she gets in for free and has guys buy her and her friends drinks all night while she dickteases everybody.
I don't know why American women play so many head games. Women I have met overseas are straight forward when it comes to dealing with the opposite sex. My damn Ex-almost drove me insane with waxing and waning attitude. I thought it was just me until my return home to find out one of my child hood friends was going through the same bullshit.
Remember before I was bitching about why is everyone saying he is black or Black when he's just as much white? I laughed my ass off when I heard that.
I have been thinking this too. He is as much Black as he is White it's that simple.
Barack Obama is a very bright guy, unlike Bush who is a dumb ass. Barack Obama is young (relatively for a presidential candidate) and energetic, unlike McCain who is older than anyone who's ever even run for president except I think William Henry Harrison who died after 30 days in office.
But more importantly, I think Barack Obama will have some more important priorities than busting mongers getting BJs in their cars. I struggle to tie this into the American Women thread so my best shot is that what is best for American women and American mongers is best for the country. McCain, I respect, but his POW and military experience is going to dominate his agenda, and he is too fucking old. Plus he keeps changing his positions as his political career proceeds.
I think it's important that all mongers vote for the candidate of their choice. I endorse Obama. "Half Honkey and All Donkey" is good enough for me. The guy is global. He's lived in a lot of places. Punaho (the high school he went to in Hawaii) is really well-respected in teaching circles. His wife seems reasonably sane and is also young so might not even go through menopause during his term. This would be good. Plus unlike Laura Bush, she never killed anyone.
The goal is pussy, so you have to vote for the candidate who will not interfere with your right to pussy. I believe that candidate to be Obama. I just hope he comes up with a better VP than Hilary. I think he should come up with someone really hot and if he can't he should just run Michele. She's hot enough for me.
Tarius Shinobi
08-01-08, 05:17
Ta da......it's : "So Close" ( 3 hot asian chicks in Hong Kong kicking lots of ass)
These chicks would woop the asses of those Charlie's Angels movie broads!
Of course you know this is the cunts way of saying you are not good enough for me, and will never be. But in her mind, she is sparing your feelings.
You are not: rich
Brad Pitt
the right race,
cute enough for her friends to be haters
white enough for her family
wearing non-fucked up shoes, (uggghhh!)
funny at the time we met!
being so funny!
keeping your eyes on me, vice other tits and ass!
OMG...UR A PIG!
Naked Gunz, I guess you are right!
but I would change some items - actually you have more chance if you have fucked up shoes, some stupid tatoos and a snotty t-short. Plus you need to behave like a fag.
AW Observation #2 (the first my AW Observation was that absolutely all AW have a BF)
- It takes for absolutely all AW at least one week, one month or more or never respond to a SMS or email, even thought it's free.
On the other hand, my girlfriends from Russia and Ukraine send SMS(it costs them money) right away unless they are sleeping. Actually they have also sent SMS to me when they were sleeping with their boyfriend and one with her husband!
Some recent examples of code words and games that I deal with on a daily basis are:
"I am very ambitious." - Used by a Viet chick as she flaked her way out of my life on to supposed greener pastures.
"
.....
"I'm real busy", "I am always tired", and "I work alot." Mentioned as soon as possible in the interaction to let the guy know not to ask for a date.
"Honey alot of guys call me I don't remember you." Told to a friend after meeting a girl in a club and calling her a couple days later.
"I like to have fun." Meaning spend money and go to clubs where she gets in for free and has guys buy her and her friends drinks all night while she dickteases everybody.
ok, i got one too from tonight. I was in a club. talked to some russian chics who have been here for years and some were very americanized. One seemed to be interested. I asked her for he phone number(before that i got a phone# from another girl with no problem). This is her answer;
"- Did I give you my business card?
- No
- oh yeah,but you gave me yours, right
- yes
- Ok, tomorrow I am going to write you an email in the form 'It was nice to meet you, etc.., ok?
-... ok"
That was one of the most creative ways to say "fuck off idiot" I have ever heard. What's funny, the girl was not even looking good, compared to others. after 4 drinks I was just curious what she would say. actually I was 100% sure she'd gladly give me her phone#(another one looking hot gave it to me), but this one ugly ***** came up with this bullshit. That's really funny and amazing, I'm out of this freaking country soon, dudes;)
DJ FourMoney
08-01-08, 08:22
This is a sad legacy of inbreeding southern style.....Inbred human tend to do stupid things.
Wow that's unPC, but I say similar things about the Dirty, Dirty.
Sorry for those folks from these parts but only those from the Bible Belt would think public money should be spent to rid a city of a legal sexual fantasy provider.
I have to say, any FOOL that spends money inside an American "Clip" joint should be drawan and quarterd... Save your pennies and go to T-Dot or Montreal, where the girls will almost fuck you during private dances. Or go down to Mexico where its fully expected that you private dance and then take your prize upstairs and have at it for a messily sum compared to what people spend in American joints, never mind when a porn star strolls into town, that's where they make [i[their[/i] money unless they are high paid "contract" girls.
DJ FourMoney
08-01-08, 08:27
Barack Obama is a very bright guy, unlike Bush who is a dumb ass. Barack Obama is young (relatively for a presidential candidate) and energetic, unlike McCain who is older than anyone who's ever even run for president except I think William Henry Harrison who died after 30 days in office.
But more importantly, I think Barack Obama will have some more important priorities than busting mongers getting BJs in their cars. I struggle to tie this into the American Women thread so my best shot is that what is best for American women and American mongers is best for the country. McCain, I respect, but his POW and military experience is going to dominate his agenda, and he is too fucking old. Plus he keeps changing his positions as his political career proceeds.
I think it's important that all mongers vote for the candidate of their choice. I endorse Obama. "Half Honkey and All Donkey" is good enough for me. The guy is global. He's lived in a lot of places. Punaho (the high school he went to in Hawaii) is really well-respected in teaching circles. His wife seems reasonably sane and is also young so might not even go through menopause during his term. This would be good. Plus unlike Laura Bush, she never killed anyone.
The goal is pussy, so you have to vote for the candidate who will not interfere with your right to pussy. I believe that candidate to be Obama. I just hope he comes up with a better VP than Hilary. I think he should come up with someone really hot and if he can't he should just run Michele. She's hot enough for me.
It ties in trust me... Tim Kaine is the rumored front runner for VP and if McSain keeps shooting himself in the foot, nevermind when the debates come up when you can compare a health younger man with a slumping old fart that McCain is, I think a light will go on in the public and it will be a landside. Obama is a better public speaker as it is, I don't see how they can deflect that...
In any case he is open to talking to people. So we need to keep him on that track. We could use opening trade with Cuba its closer than China for one thing... Cuba could be a new market for carnal desires with open travel between the two countries and I think that will happen.
Yes we have way too much to do otherwise then to bust "johns", I don't even think that will come up unless a Republican is involved...
DJ FourMoney
08-01-08, 08:35
ok, i got one too from tonight. I was in a club. talked to some russian chics who have been here for years and some were very americanized. One seemed to be interested. I asked her for he phone number(before that i got a phone# from another girl with no problem). This is her answer;
"- Did I give you my business card?
- No
- oh yeah,but you gave me yours, right
- yes
- Ok, tomorrow I am going to write you an email in the form 'It was nice to meet you, etc.., ok?
-... ok"
That was one of the most creative ways to say "fuck off idiot" I have ever heard. What's funny, the girl was not even looking good, compared to others. after 4 drinks I was just curious what she would say. actually I was 100% sure she'd gladly give me her phone#(another one looking hot gave it to me), but this one ugly ***** came up with this bullshit. That's really funny and amazing, I'm out of this freaking country soon, dudes;)
Its freaking amazing actually...
How can ugly women and fat woman dictate who they end up dating???
ONLY IN AMERICA
Russian women, along with other American women in America are overvauled. Russians/Ukrainains feel because they tend to be thinner, they are automatically a better choice than obese American women. They are half right, it depends on their age. I can find plenty of mid 20something that are just as thin and just as sexy and play just as many "games" as any other American woman does.
Internet Dating sites are overrun with desperate AM and unwanted and equally desperate AW (especially those with children and over 30). Those under 30 claim, no good men are left. What they are saying is no Tyson Beckford/Brad Pitt types are left (they are dating better looking women than the ones complaining) so instead of being realistic about their options they continue down this path until they are 35 and unmarried and all the REAL smart and nice guys are YES taken already, unless your hold outs like me..lol
Its freaking amazing actually...
How can ugly women and fat woman dictate who they end up dating???
ONLY IN AMERICA
yes DJ, it is amazing! I guess I should get to get used to it and shut up, as the majority of the "free" country. but I'm just laughing at those stupid cunts! while I'm being "humiliated" by AW(and AW-wannabees), right now I'm planning two vacations with a beautiful Ukrainian girl she's also a part-time photomodel) and with a Moscow gf(I am not paying for them) It's out of my comprehension what I lack to get any sympathy of AW;)
Jelly Donut
08-02-08, 18:14
Barack Obama is a very bright guy
It's frustrating when I deal with people who connect the Presidential sweepstakes in the United States to some aspect of their everyday life. I'd like to suggest that is almost always not the case. There are few ways politics is going to help you get laid. This is a good thing - historically, the stronger the connection between sex and government the worse the government.
When you look objectively at American government you understand the likelyhood of your getting laid has much more to with who your locally elected officials are, and once you've done that, you will understand how silly it is trying to draw a connection between these two things at all.
It's like trying to fit a conversation about American politics onto a thread about American women. (There is, btw, an American politics thread on this forum).
Having said that, Obama is a lawyer. In that important sense, exactly like every other Democrat who's been nominated for the office over the past 30 years. He's the same type of animal as Eliot Spitzer. He will fight whatever fight is politically efficient, he will go with the flow - that's why you've seen such striking shifts over to more conservative positions since he's locked up the nomination. He would lock you up for soliciting as fast as the next ambitious lawyer, without an once of self-reflection.
Arguments about where a person has lived, our how old they are, or what their first car was, or their skin color - that's a woman's way of picking a boyfriend, not a man's way of picking an elected official.
To the extent that he election does impact your life, you can be sure Obama will lock up the endorsement of the National Organization of Women and other women's groups. He will do so after making significant promises to them. They are not happy with how the whole Hillary thing went down, and they are a core part of the Democratic Party, and Obama needs them to win. The combination of a Demoratic Congress with a Democrat president, beholden to women's groups, is not promising news for American men. I'd encourage you to look at these groups, and see if you line up with thier politics, before you jump in bed with Obama.
while i appreciate the long speech, i'll take obama any day over the other 70+yr old fella. god help us all, if mccain is elected president.
it's frustrating when i deal with people who connect the presidential sweepstakes in the united states to some aspect of their everyday life. i'd like to suggest that is almost always not the case. there are few ways politics is going to help you get laid. this is a good thing - historically, the stronger the connection between sex and government the worse the government.
when you look objectively at american government you understand the likelyhood of your getting laid has much more to with who your locally elected officials are, and once you've done that, you will understand how silly it is trying to draw a connection between these two things at all.
it's like trying to fit a conversation about american politics onto a thread about american women. (there is, btw, an american politics thread on this forum).
having said that, obama is a lawyer. in that important sense, exactly like every other democrat who's been nominated for the office over the past 30 years. he's the same type of animal as eliot spitzer. he will fight whatever fight is politically efficient, he will go with the flow - that's why you've seen such striking shifts over to more conservative positions since he's locked up the nomination. he would lock you up for soliciting as fast as the next ambitious lawyer, without an once of self-reflection.
arguments about where a person has lived, our how old they are, or what their first car was, or their skin color - that's a woman's way of picking a boyfriend, not a man's way of picking an elected official.
to the extent that he election does impact your life, you can be sure obama will lock up the endorsement of the national organization of women and other women's groups. he will do so after making significant promises to them. they are not happy with how the whole hillary thing went down, and they are a core part of the democratic party, and obama needs them to win. the combination of a demoratic congress with a democrat president, beholden to women's groups, is not promising news for american men. i'd encourage you to look at these groups, and see if you line up with thier politics, before you jump in bed with obama.
Its freaking amazing actually...
How can ugly women and fat woman dictate who they end up dating???
ONLY IN AMERICA
From my point of view, it is not amazing at all. It is very rational given the the evolution of US society.
In the 50's and 60's, pioneer women rightfully demanded the same economic and legal rights as men. In the 70's and 80's, spiteful, bitter, manhating feminazis hi-jacked the women's movement and used it to hurt and belittle men, and erode their rights. The original feminists wanted to lift women up. The feminazis see the way to make men and women equal is to drag men down.
So now we men are down at the level of fat and ugly women. And they can in fact dictate whom they date!
JD does make some good points about how Obama would have to pander to NOW but I think any candidate would have to do that. And I think a Democratic nominee would be more likely to say, "By God you're right; we have to do something about prostitution" and then fucking forget all about it.
Anyway it doesn't make shit difference to me; I am long gone. But I'm still going to vote. I'm a "yellow dog" Democrat (if anyone is old enough to remember what that means) anyway so I'd probably vote for Obama whether I liked him or not, but I pretty much do like him.
Now moving back closer to American women: I have an AW friend who is 50, in decent shape, college degree, makes good money (not great money), owns her own house, and is fairly recently widowed (two years). She has begun corresponding with guys in prison. She is only corresponding with "non-violent offenders" who have "less than a year until parole."
How do I pound some sense into her from 5,000 miles away? I told her to go to a bar and get laid. She had one BF since her husband died, who sounded like a real loser: lived at home (sorry DJ), had lost his license for multiple DUIs, low-paying job, blah blah. He dumped [/b] her because she would not come pick him up and expected him to take the bus to her house.
I'm not saying she's a great catch. She is kind of a *****, but she's a lot of fun and loves sex. Prison inmates? What is up with that?
Tarius Shinobi
08-03-08, 08:34
Imagine being married to Tiffany Pollard's ( I Love New York-reality show) mama, Sister Patterson!
She is one evil: (B)ad (I)ndividual (T)o (C)ome (H)ome!
Tarius Shinobi
08-03-08, 08:52
"Death Proof": Kurt Russel's character, Stuntman Mike had the right idea about how to deal with stuck-up AW! But, unfortunately, it led to his demise!
Chocha Monger
08-03-08, 12:21
Now moving back closer to American women: I have an AW friend who is 50, in decent shape, college degree, makes good money (not great money), owns her own house, and is fairly recently widowed (two years). She has begun corresponding with guys in prison. She is only corresponding with "non-violent offenders" who have "less than a year until parole."
How do I pound some sense into her from 5,000 miles away? I told her to go to a bar and get laid. She had one BF since her husband died, who sounded like a real loser: lived at home (sorry DJ), had lost his license for multiple DUIs, low-paying job, blah blah. He dumped [/b] her because she would not come pick him up and expected him to take the bus to her house.
I'm not saying she's a great catch. She is kind of a *****, but she's a lot of fun and loves sex. Prison inmates? What is up with that?
It seems that your AW friend has some control issues. She apparently likes to play prison warden. From what you've written, she likes men who are dependent and unable to control what happens in their lives. This is not unusual among American women. Really, there is nothing that you can do or say that will make her change her mind. In fact, your opposition will only make her that much more eager and determined to proceed with her endeavor.
I have to agree with that statement, since having a brain of your own (Unless you have millions, are named Mr. Pitt, Mr. D. Washington, Mr. Gates, etc.). Their demands are starting to deteriorate some old institutions (Such as marriage, boyfriend/girlfriend, or just plain friends). This is why I refer to all females I know as colleagues or acquaintances. One must keep relationships with AW professional and distant if one wishes to keep their bearings. There is absolutely nothing to gain by having any kind of intimate relationship with an AW anymore. Before, just about 15 years ago, there was the HOPE of developing intimate relations with someone special. Now, everytime a good looking female prospect wishes to approach a male, if she is interested, they tend to give you a cold shoulder until they find out perhaps your salary scale. I don't have millions, but I do OK, so this puts me always on the playing field; however, you can see the hypocrisy in the before and after of them, the good ol' AW, acquiring this knowledge. It happens all the time I go out. Before, AW are always cold, distant and not willing to give me the time a day once we meet. Once I leave the table and return, my jokes are now REALLY funny, and I'm getting a lot of pokes and hand grabbing, and hair flipping, and, well, you've seen AW's in full flirt mode. I have seen this a lot. Always, after they find out how much I make from my wingmen or acquaintances, the behavior changes radically, as if to say he wasn't worthed before, but NOW, he is a catch. It is never what they can bring into a possible relationship, but what they can GET from YOU!!! So, I go on my trips, get what I want, when I want, completely free of restrictions. The best part is to look these b*tches in the eye, know what they want and be unresponsive. I don't care how hard they try, it just ain't happening. As I tell people I trust, I just have way too much to lose to get involved in the ultimate no-win scenario. They have one thing I want, but they want everything I have. Not a good deal. On the other hand, If she makes more money than me, and the criteria is right, then that would be worth working for. But for now, since AW continue to use their look as bait, I am not taking a bite until I find an equal. It would be a cold day in hell when that happens...
It seems that your AW friend has some control issues. She apparently likes to play prison warden. From what you've written, she likes men who are dependent and unable to control what happens in their lives. This is not unusual among American women. Really, there is nothing that you can do or say that will make her change her mind. In fact, your opposition will only make her that much more eager and determined to proceed with her endeavor.
Oh, I think AWs can make good friends. In fact I have more women friends than men friends. But I do think my AW friends are more like men than most women: profane, direct, competitive, cynical, blah blah. Plus they pay their own way. My friend who is fixing to fuck her life up with some convict will not ever let anyone pay for her drinks or anything like that. No no. Split the check. She can out-cuss most sailors, out-drink most men, doesn't take shit, doesn't give a shit, not in the shit business. A great friend for 20+ years but I could never date her. She does definitely have a thing for weak men she can dominate and now that I think about it, I think her stepfather went to prison when she was growing up.
Chocha Monger is right and I won't say anything more to her besides "hope it works out for you."
DJ FourMoney
08-03-08, 20:05
JD does make some good points about how Obama would have to pander to NOW but I think any candidate would have to do that. And I think a Democratic nominee would be more likely to say, "By God you're right; we have to do something about prostitution" and then fucking forget all about it.
Anyway it doesn't make shit difference to me; I am long gone. But I'm still going to vote. I'm a "yellow dog" Democrat (if anyone is old enough to remember what that means) anyway so I'd probably vote for Obama whether I liked him or not, but I pretty much do like him.
Now moving back closer to American women: I have an AW friend who is 50, in decent shape, college degree, makes good money (not great money), owns her own house, and is fairly recently widowed (two years). She has begun corresponding with guys in prison. She is only corresponding with "non-violent offenders" who have "less than a year until parole."
How do I pound some sense into her from 5,000 miles away? I told her to go to a bar and get laid. She had one BF since her husband died, who sounded like a real loser: lived at home (sorry DJ), had lost his license for multiple DUIs, low-paying job, blah blah. He dumped [/b] her because she would not come pick him up and expected him to take the bus to her house.
I'm not saying she's a great catch. She is kind of a *****, but she's a lot of fun and loves sex. Prison inmates? What is up with that?
None taken....
What I have to keep explaining however is that every since I stopped driving trucks, I've had a job the last few years that's basically "Slave Labor". This year they didn't give any raises, last year I got a nickel raise. All this is FAR below what I made driving trucks by about $800 a month. It gets the job done but with the cost of living in California being what it is, its either buy a car I want or drive a POS, work two jobs and have an apartment or work two jobs and have both, I rather work ONE job (recently started looking for a second for my trip actually, not so I can afford to move out).
For some Americans, this would be NORMAL.... I find that abnormal... Remember Bush and the woman that worked 3 jobs "Uniquely American", coming from a brain dead (because of Cocaine use) man that's lived a life of total privilege and they are calling Obama an Elitist and too skinny, hmmmm
I've said before I can find women that will accept my situation, however they aren't what I am looking for and this would be were somebody would say I am being picky or face it this is what you have to work with unless you change.
I'm focused on moving out and staying out, that means completely able to afford to own my property when I buy it. Getting help from the FHA is not even an issue, I can get it. But I shouldn't have to move to Katrina country to get a washed out house for $100,000 or less. I can get those prices in Las Vegas and I'm seriously considering it...
In any event, I haven't found a woman YET in Europe that CARES about that and most of it has to do with the fact she's not able to come over like a local woman would WANT TOO. All they are worried about is if they come out to be with me are we going to live with MOM and the answer is NO, NO and NO, I snap my fingers I'll sign a lease (for an Apt) but not before that.
So now that you have the full story we can stop using me as cannon fodder - ;)
Here in a nutshell, is the problem with AW......American Men. We spoil 'em, treat 'em like royalty and we get "shit" upon.
Here's an AW, who looks like an overweight hippo and expects between $150-$250/session. She's obviously getting it from some desperate
American guys. I doubt she would have a chance in Europe, Thailand or any of the other monger havens.
Here in a nutshell is the problem with AW......American Men. We spoil 'em, treat 'em like Queens and we get "shit" upon.
Here's an AW, who looks like an overweight hippo and expects between $150-$250/session. She's obviously getting it from some desperate American guys. I doubt she would have a chance in Europe, Thailand or any of the other monger havens.Oh Lord, have mercy on my eyes. I would never pay for that.
Why'd you quit driving trucks to work slave labor, if you don't mind the question?
Doctor_Skank
08-03-08, 21:23
Here in a nutshell, is the problem with AW......American Men. We spoil 'em, treat 'em like royalty and we get "shit" upon.
Here's an AW, who looks like an overweight hippo and expects between $150-$250/session. She's obviously getting it from some desperate
American guys. I doubt she would have a chance in Europe, Thailand or any of the other monger havens.She might get twice that if she found somebody with a whale-fucking fetish.
But jokes aside, AW aren't THAT bad. That pic is pretty extreme and says more about the sad state of prostitution in the US more than anything else.
There are plenty of hot AWs out there and yes, they are available to guys who can bring a few basic things to the table:
1) decent looks
2) a job/future
3) a car
4) some basic social/communication skills
5) machismo/sexual drive
Most of my friends are happily married to attractive non-fat women and on a recent visit to them, I had no difficult meeting attractive girls.
I know by experience that the US market is not the best or easiest market for men looking for hot women, but it isn't hell either. In fact, I find it rather great. No place on this planet offers more variety than the US.
Here in a nutshell, is the problem with AW......American Men. We spoil 'em, treat 'em like royalty and we get "shit" upon.
Here's an AW, who looks like an overweight hippo and expects between $150-$250/session. She's obviously getting it from some desperate
American guys. I doubt she would have a chance in Europe, Thailand or any of the other monger havens.
OUCH! this is disgusting! even if they paid me $1000 or a million i cannot do it physically.
So some guys do pay for that??
Ok, anyways, can someone explain me. Why everybody says you can go to any American bar and pickup a woman for free(or "actually" they will pick you up), but at the same time people pay $200 to fuck an ugliest skunk! any logic to this? Am I missing something?
American women are the only women I know of who first ask, what type of car do you drive, what type of job do you have, how much money do you make and of course you better be above average looking to even start a conversation. It is why American men are so shell shocked when they travel overseas and see women who look like models very approachable and friendly.
There are plenty of hot AWs out there and yes, they are available to guys who can bring a few basic things to the table:
1) decent looks
2) a job/future
3) a car
4) some basic social/communication skills
5) machismo/sexual drive
Most of my friends are happily married to attractive non-fat women and on a recent visit to them, I had no difficult meeting attractive girls.
I know by experience that the US market is not the best or easiest market for men looking for hot women, but it isn't hell either. In fact, I find it rather great. No place on this planet offers more variety than the US.
Naked Gunz
08-03-08, 22:12
She might get twice that if she found somebody with a whale-fucking fetish.
But jokes aside, AW aren't THAT bad. That pic is pretty extreme and says more about the sad state of prostitution in the US more than anything else.
There are plenty of hot AWs out there and yes, they are available to guys who can bring a few basic things to the table:
1) decent looks
2) a job/future
3) a car
4) some basic social/communication skills
5) machismo/sexual drive
Most of my friends are happily married to attractive non-fat women and on a recent visit to them, I had no difficult meeting attractive girls.
I know by experience that the US market is not the best or easiest market for men looking for hot women, but it isn't hell either. In fact, I find it rather great. No place on this planet offers more variety than the US.
You make it sound so great I want to stay. NOT!
Bottom line is the amount of money and education you have determines the quality of pussy you will get. If you have good looks that over rules everything and women will throw themselves at you, (prettiest peacock gets ALL the pussy). This a complicated society. There is a lot of shit to be taken in consideration- even when it comes to something as basic as sex.
Your right Skank. Remember, here your always being evaluated:
Money,looks, personality, education, power, sense of humor, baggage you bring to the table, debt.
Your being judged not one day , but every day!. Cause grass is always greener with someone else, for you and her.
I travel too much. Women know they(or I) will be fucking someone else eventually.
Most men are angry because the power pedulum has swung the womans way, and men are judged as being the problem in any relationship gone bad. Some women don't even consider the fact that they may be fucked up. Cops are ready to take you away in a DV situation. Women get the children usually in divorce. They take all your shit when you break up.
Have you noticed how men are portrayed to be such idiots even in the TV commercials? We are being emasculated. You know , it just is so much easier to go to PI, Thai, fuck em, throw a fin on the table and walk away.
American women are the only women I know of who first ask, what type of car do you drive, what type of job do you have, how much money do you make and of course you better be above average looking to even start a conversation. It is why American men are so shell shocked when they travel overseas and see women who look like models very approachable and friendly.
I'm not sure, it's kinda questionable. I would say that Russian women will ask more these kind of questions! Especially now in Moscow many of them are very materialistic.
I think the major problem is that the AW do not really need men. They are fine without them. They even showed it on TV several years ago, a questionarie "what do you do when you want sex". the girls said anything but sex.. "i eat, i go to gym, etc.." If you ask a girl from another country the answer would be obvious and normal. Of course if she wants sex, she finds a man. Not in America!
Doctor_Skank
08-04-08, 00:36
American women are the only women I know of who first ask, what type of car do you drive, what type of job do you have, how much money do you make and of course you better be above average looking to even start a conversation. It is why American men are so shell shocked when they travel overseas and see women who look like models very approachable and friendly.Not only AWs interested in that, even if it may be predominant in US chick culture. It is asked in one way or another in many cultures. As Goga Fung correctly said, In Slavic culture it is pretty much covered in the first 15 minutes of conversation. In a sense, I think it is even legit, depending on what choices the female has.
But what I definitely agree on is what Naked Gunz alluded to. The American male is routinely made out to be a complete buffoon on TV.
American women are funny to watch overseas. They either turning into raging *****s, complain immensely about the sluttily-dressed but much more attractive local female or just shut up completely and count the days until they can return home to where their sense of universe returns to normal.
Aw's have dragged men down, now both sexes struggle to find good jobs to support a middle class lifestyle and Naked Gunz is correct when he says most men are angry. I count muself as one.
Been divorced once and simply can't imagine hooking up with an AW in a LTR ever again.
Last night (Saturday) I went to a local club that is known as a meeting spot for divorced/single men/women 30 to 60 years. And there were plenty of sad faces men and women. Men gazed at the women dancing with other women mostly except when a real slow song same on on then the men wouls slow dance with the women, others hung out by the bar drinking and seizing up the men and women around the bar and tables.
I had the opportunity to chat with the women but only for quick hook ups, I wouldn't entertain the thought of an LTR. But once out of the country my feeling change and I view women differntly, I trust them more and believe it when they say they care for me. And the subjects of money, work, etc don't surface.
She might get twice that if she found somebody with a whale-fucking fetish.
But jokes aside, AW aren't THAT bad. That pic is pretty extreme and says more about the sad state of prostitution in the US more than anything else.
There are plenty of hot AWs out there and yes, they are available to guys who can bring a few basic things to the table:
1) decent looks
2) a job/future
3) a car
4) some basic social/communication skills
5) machismo/sexual drive
Most of my friends are happily married to attractive non-fat women and on a recent visit to them, I had no difficult meeting attractive girls.
I know by experience that the US market is not the best or easiest market for men looking for hot women, but it isn't hell either. In fact, I find it rather great. No place on this planet offers more variety than the US.
That's what I have been saying all along. Looks is number one. I know from experience. I don't drink, smoke, stay in the gym 24/7, earn six figures, but the face is everything....If you have the face finding pussy in the states is easy.
Rubber Nursey
08-04-08, 04:56
Looks is number one. ....but the face is everything. If you have the face finding pussy in the states is easy.
Awww c'mon now...in every second post on this thread, someone asks why he should have to settle for ugly/fat/older women! Beauty is coveted by both men and women.
It depends on what sort of relationship you're looking for, too. If we're talking marriage, I'd much rather be with a nice guy who looks like a troll than a hottie who treats me like crap. But if we're talking casual pickups from bars...of course I'm gonna choose the gorgeous playboy! And if you guys had to choose between a cuddly but interesting 30-something and a stunning but vacuous 20-something, you'd do exactly the same thing.
Rubber Nursey
08-04-08, 05:22
Not only AWs interested in that, even if it may be predominant in US chick culture. It is asked in one way or another in many cultures.
I don't get the problem with asking what people do for work. In my experience it's always asked within the first few minutes of meeting, by both parties. It's one of those questions that a) tell you more about the person you've just met (their passions, their skills, their lifestyle) and b) fills that uncomfortable silence after the initial introduction. In the latter case, women will invariably be the ones to ask the question, because most women have a morbid fear of silence. :)
But men ask just as often (men also ask other men and women ask other women). Unless she responds to your occupation with "Sorry, but you just don't earn enough for my liking", it's just a conversation starter in my books.
There are plenty of hot AWs out there and yes, they are available to guys who can bring a few basic things to the table:
1) decent looks
2) a job/future
3) a car
4) some basic social/communication skills
5) machismo/sexual drive
So what? I got all of these, and some of those points are several times better than USA average. it is still not worth the hastle to date a stupid chick for months, begging her to place me into her 'social' calendar, waiting for her "availability" etc.. And then once you're with her, she wants to hook you, all these marriage talks, etc..
I find it cheaper, more effective and rewarding flying to other countries where i meet pros and also have a few girlfriends.
DJ FourMoney
08-04-08, 07:00
why'd you quit driving trucks to work slave labor, if you don't mind the question?
i don't mind, its not a government secret..lol
i worked for two different companies over a 2.5 year span. i got training from one and was "forced" out by an injury. actually it was an offer by them to get me to pay for training and not keep my job or not keep my job and pay for the training (by contract), okay "big orange" has not seen that "payment", never will and its been charged off and will drop off my report in another 2 years - i win!
gee i bought a new car at that time, so i had to keep paying for it right? i went back to my courier job, which pays well given the amount of work you do, but with rising fuel cost (this was '04) i had planned on going back to trucking. "slave labor" by trucking standards is $400 a week but net is much lower when you consider you have to eat, take showers and all that stuff (only an issue when you drive coast to coast and canada).
one week i made about $300 and that hurt....
anyway after compairing my pay checks (weekly) vs (bi-weekly) i was getting being a courier, it was time to go back to driving a truck. from feb of '04 to dec of '04 i was doing courier duty. i contacted jb hunt and they asked me to go to training a week later. after 10 days of standards and practices, i was told i would be driving the lower 48 and canada. previously i had only driven a dedicated account in which i hardly left the state save for my weekly venture up to portland, ore.
well my dispatcher was driving me nuts and after 1 complete month out there, i said, i want to switch to this local program my home yard (south gate, for those of you familar with southern california). i did that and everything was fine, now to answer you question -
i had a series of small incidents with the truck from may to june of '05. not actual "accidents" they didn't happen on a public roads, no other cars/trucks were involved and to this day i can't explain it, maybe i grew too comfortable driving it or something and started taking things for granted. the last incident was happenstance, no other way to explain it, but its a violation of company policy and they can't insure me. so if i can't be insured i can't drive for them, i'm effectively out of a job.... no hard feelings, in fact they told me i could go back in 6 months. well i waited around for 6 months and then was told i had to drive for another company incident free for 6 months. i was like wtf, nonbody told me that and i had trouble getting a 3rd company to take me on and if that happen why would i go back to jb hunt??? lol, unless the company was terrible which happens, but truckers talk all you have to do is listen.
i considered buying a truck with my stepfather who also has a class a, but his back and knee are giving him problems so that was abandoned.
the problem is basically there would be more demand for my skills if i lived beyond the mississippi, since 45% of the population lives on that side of the country. my choices are limited and i won't drive for just anybody. managment i can deal with, its the shitty equipment i can't deal with! i had an older 2002 freightliner with schneider and it spent quite a few times in the shop and as the saying goes in trucking, if the wheels aren't turning your not making money... i had a perfectly good 2004 freightliner's transmission go out in upstate ny in jan and was rewarded with a brand new 2005 freightliner, never been driven and the speed limiter was higher - :)
low end companies can't afford to do things like this, but newer hardware is prefered by me. others guys don't care, i do. o/op (owner-operators) buy older trucks, trick them out (you've seen them). some buy new trucks, it really depends.
bottom line is, i guess i'm not willing to do what it takes to keep driving..lol
there's a possibility i can drive a bus for mta here in los angeles and the intial pay rate is about the same as driving a truck. but the hiring period is between now and end of sept and i'm not sure. i wouldn't allow me to travel next year like i want, but unless i can make more money between now and march i'm not going anywhere or my trip will be much shorter than orginally planned.
did that explain it well enough?
Doctor_Skank
08-04-08, 07:52
So what? I got all of these, and some of those points are several times better than USA average. it is still not worth the hastle to date a stupid chick for months, begging her to place me into her 'social' calendar, waiting for her "availability" etc.. And then once you're with her, she wants to hook you, all these marriage talks, etc..
I find it cheaper, more effective and rewarding flying to other countries where i meet pros and also have a few girlfriends.If you've got all of those why are you dating a chick for MONTHS and not getting anywhere?
But it's irrelevant, perhaps you are living in a place where the social dynamics are considerably worse than what I experienced. I also agree that pursuing women overseas is a most satisfying and rather easy (albeit ultimately expensive) hobby.
I also however contend that the state of the American female is not AS bad as it often is suggested here.
They aren't ALL hyperfat, unkempt, sniveling biaches that only want to screw your pocketbook.
None of you guys have sisters?! Mine's smoking hot and neither a biach nor a plotting money-hungry ho. Then again, not only I but the rest of the family would be on her ass if she decided dating a complete loser was for her. People... especially women IMO... look to at least maintain their social class when dating. You can't control who you fall in love with but you certainly can control the circumstances in which your dating takes place.
There does seem to be a dating/mating imbalance in the US however, even though I've heard other nations complain about their own women being inferior as well.
Doctor_Skank
08-04-08, 07:59
I don't get the problem with asking what people do for work. In my experience it's always asked within the first few minutes of meeting, by both parties. It's one of those questions that a) tell you more about the person you've just met (their passions, their skills, their lifestyle) and b) fills that uncomfortable silence after the initial introduction. In the latter case, women will invariably be the ones to ask the question, because most women have a morbid fear of silence. :)
I also don't see it as a problem and what someone is doing in life says something about them. Neither is it just about money. For example in my experience women adore men who are passionate about something and have drive to reach a goal, any goal really.
DJ FourMoney
08-04-08, 08:23
She might get twice that if she found somebody with a whale-fucking fetish.
But jokes aside, AW aren't THAT bad. That pic is pretty extreme and says more about the sad state of prostitution in the US more than anything else.
There are plenty of hot AWs out there and yes, they are available to guys who can bring a few basic things to the table:
1) decent looks
2) a job/future
3) a car
4) some basic social/communication skills
5) machismo/sexual drive
Most of my friends are happily married to attractive non-fat women and on a recent visit to them, I had no difficult meeting attractive girls.
I know by experience that the US market is not the best or easiest market for men looking for hot women, but it isn't hell either. In fact, I find it rather great. No place on this planet offers more variety than the US.
Your correct!
Its been said ad nauseum...
There several problems with that assessment -
I still say and RN would agree that "looks" is pushed further down on the list for the average woman as other factors increase/descrease as time goes on.
Everybody likes EYE CANDY, that's fine. When I say I can't get "hot" chicks, I believe I am being a realist and base my looks (7) on what I can attract which more often is "6" and worst and seldom "7" and higher when you introduce other factors into this.
In an office environment, you might find access to "7" and higher easier than say working at many service sector jobs. Now if your between 18 and 25, there still a good source of "talent" in the service sector, usually career workers or students.
Students tend to be broke and workers early in their career cycle tend to be poor as well. So many date; like with like.
Earning Potential is seldom a factor...
This changes as our culture puts "time limits" on certain activities.
By age 30, your expected to be out of the home, working full time or working on your extended education.
If you FAIL that test, from an AW point of view, you better have a good reason. For many women the reason is unprepared motherhood and they get upset when you don't hand them a "Get Out of Jail Free" card as that's some how a more responsible change in lifestyle than what I have done for example.
How many women are living with parents with their own children and still get a PASS by many MEN because they know by age 30 and if you haven't taken advantage of the things say Doc has done (with education) you find yourself working a local job for a pittance and despite your looks, your selection is much lower.
Here's an example -
How many American Soldiers are married to "Hot" Wives? Very FEW! That includes men married to women say from Japan, Germany or UK where we have bases.
Most of these women are average to above average looking at best and sometimes worst than that.
1) They have job security (provided they aren't killed)
2) Most have nice cars because everything else that would matter in the private sector is paid for by the Federal Government. Nevermind they get deep discounts from all the major car manufactures.
3) You're a solider, can't get any more Macho than being paid to kill people...
4) If you really enjoy killing people, you can work for Blackwater for 6 digits a year when your contract is up.
Only Officers tend to have access to better looking women then grunts do. Every so often yes a solider, ex-solider is married to hot woman, but that comes at a cost as many men suffer from PTSD and other social "problems", heavy drinking being one of them.
That comes from we're not getting the sharpest knives in the drawer to join the armed forces.
In fact the sharpest knives are involved in big business, finance, justice and politics...
The rest of us are scrambling around because we have turned into a "Greed is Good" culture that has us consuming a dizzying rate. Now slowed by a slumping economy; of course for those with money are doing just fine (Lamborghini reported record sales last month, while GM, Ford and Cerbus are all hurting big time)
I'll also add in a factor that could be controversial....
Caucasians in America don't want to be associated with being POOR, it totally screws up that White Supremacist mindset that's embedded in our culture, in other words, you make the wrong choices and you'll be like the rest of us... So White women don't want to date Poor men period, end of story. If they are POOR (single mothers usually are) then even more importance is put on that, but requirements get pushed WAY down -
1) He not beat me because he's drunk/high on some drug, nor controlled by some substance.
2) He be respectful to my family, friends and my children
3) Have a DECENT job. Since they work at Wal-Mart isn't that hypocrisy if they won't date a guy that works at Pep Boys????
4) Decent Looks
You see its BACKWARDS!
So that comes to where I am and where you are Doc.
You have education, which lead to profitable employment and work benefits like traveling overseas. You make a heap of money compared to me I'm sure, in fact I'll venture to guess half of my father's life insurance "windfall" which is my half after the split with my sister, is about 2/3rds of your yearly income.
Working where I work now is equal to slave labor without the beatings because its not even enough to live a half way decent lower middle class lifestyle, its equal to WORKING POOR!
So unless I "bend" the rules in my favor, I end up with nice looking, even hot in some cases MILF's that expect about as much from me as I expect from them, just a decent life.
By bending the rules and paying for "access" others usually get for free or on a discounted basis, my selection is not only much wider but much younger and is filled with plenty of landmines to turn off the average single male in this country, which is why its a path seldom travelled.
Nevermind the propaganda Naked Gunz speaks of that taints the thoughts of many sheeple.
I could call myself a "looser" but deep inside I know I'm not so I refuse to accept that title, though American culture has effectively heaped it on me.
So therefore I struggle and Warbucks and Doc don't... In a Nutshell
DJ FourMoney
08-04-08, 09:13
If you've got all of those why are you dating a chick for MONTHS and not getting anywhere?
But it's irrelevant, perhaps you are living in a place where the social dynamics are considerably worse than what I experienced. I also agree that pursuing women overseas is a most satisfying and rather easy (albeit ultimately expensive) hobby.
I also however contend that the state of the American female is not AS bad as it often is suggested here.
They aren't ALL hyperfat, unkempt, sniveling biaches that only want to screw your pocketbook.
None of you guys have sisters?! Mine's smoking hot and neither a biach nor a plotting money-hungry ho. Then again, not only I but the rest of the family would be on her ass if she decided dating a complete loser was for her. People... especially women IMO... look to at least maintain their social class when dating. You can't control who you fall in love with but you certainly can control the circumstances in which your dating takes place.
There does seem to be a dating/mating imbalance in the US however, even though I've heard other nations complain about their own women being inferior as well.
My sister isn't cute and is fat. That might be horrible to say but its the truth and has its legacy embedded in our typical American household which includes Divorce.
She is SMART however, but men tend to overlook that, don't we.. She's going to St John's on scholarship.
I won the battle of "wills" between my mother and me and well you see the result, not ideal. It could be worst, I could be a career criminal, I mean I'm a Black Man in America is anything else expected of me? lol
The Grass is Greener factor plays out interestingly doesn't it?
We complain, we venture overseas, its paradise...
They complain, venture to America, its paradise....
Its BACKWARDS!
It just means opposites attract more often that one would think. American women like men tend to be outgoing, boisterous, yet conservative sexually (at least in public) and less family oriented (to a point). For young Europeans, this is IDEAL, where European women tend to want to date based on long term goals more often than just having a good time while it last.
As you push further east, while changing daily, that's still the usual case.
Also there's the value of Sex. As you know Sex is basically a CRIME against humanity in America. So women tend to set up test and requirements before giving up the pussy. I thought this was dating not an interview for employment. You have to meet certain social requirements, I get that, but in social environments like nightclubs/bars, is this really necessary?
The only requirement should be -
1) Is he decent looking, even sexy in low light and in good light
2) Does he have the gift of gab, can he make the short time he's with you interesting
If you pass those test, in Europe your fucking, in America, you get a phone number. If you add alcohol to the mix, then the chances of you fucking an American women goes up by about 50%, in Europe is increases to about 90%.
That's your social imbalance.... (if we are talking about dating of course)
It takes min. ONE date to get laid in America, it usually 3-5.
I haven't actually dated anybody in Europe so I have no first hand experience but plenty of second hand information and if I'm wrong please set me straight.
Location, Location, Location!
Being WHO I am, using my ISG social intelligence to its maximum. If I venture into a German town with a nightlife that involves a US Military Installation as its main patrons, then a typical night there might be abnormal compared to what happens ANYWHERE in America and the factors I listed are the ONLY factors involved.
This wouldn't happen as easily in America and we all know this.
There is hardly any separation of sexual encounters from dating in America, they are intertwined.
Only as women get older, in social environments this changes SLIGHTLY and becomes more like what I said above.
I happen to be one of many Americans that think women between 30-40 with no children and unmarried, there is usually a reason and its not good. Depending on what your goals are, if they desire not to have children, this puts them at odds with the desires of most men from Western culture. If they have children from a previous relationship, they are looked at as "damaged goods". I don't have a problem with MILF's but its not ideal and as long as I think its not ideal, I'll keep down this expensive path you just mentioned as the end result will mean more social security for me in the long run.
DJ FourMoney
08-04-08, 09:19
I also don't see it as a problem and what someone is doing in life says something about them. Neither is it just about money. For example in my experience women adore men who are passionate about something and have drive to reach a goal, any goal really.
I totally agree but when you work in the service sector, umm many write you off as not goal oriented... Without asking of course...
Awww c'mon now...in every second post on this thread, someone asks why he should have to settle for ugly/fat/older women! Beauty is coveted by both men and women.
It depends on what sort of relationship you're looking for, too. If we're talking marriage, I'd much rather be with a nice guy who looks like a troll than a hottie who treats me like crap. But if we're talking casual pickups from bars...of course I'm gonna choose the gorgeous playboy! And if you guys had to choose between a cuddly but interesting 30-something and a stunning but vacuous 20-something, you'd do exactly the same thing.
Yes RN you are absolutely right. I wasn't complaining just stating, we all have the right to choose. I have a co-worker who is about 6'2 and 340 pounds. So you can pretty much guess he has a hard time getting women. Sometime he confides in me about his social struggles. I try to get him in the gym he is not consistent but he tries some time.
This morning while speaking about the dating pool where we are now American soldiers, OGNs (Other Government Organizations) etc… He said women always judge him about his appearance I simply told him Western Women like attractive men. He said yeah but you have a gorgeous girlfriend. I told him she is an Asian born and raised in Asia. In that part of the world a man with a good job is valued not so much good looks….
I used to harbor anger towards the women of my country but now I realize they have the right to choose and so do I its that simple. The good Doctor is right again also about the fact no country on earth has such a wide and beautiful selection of women other then the USA.
I don't get the problem with asking what people do for work. In my experience it's always asked within the first few minutes of meeting, by both parties. It's one of those questions that a) tell you more about the person you've just met (their passions, their skills, their lifestyle)........
Stop right there... I don't think a person's career choice tells you anything about them. If a person is WG, Doctor or a Department of Defense worker like myself I can’t tell you anything about either of those people other then that it is the life that they chose or in my case the life the that chose me.
DJ FourMoney
08-04-08, 10:41
Stop right there... I don't think a person's career choice tells you anything about them. If a person is WG, Doctor or a Department of Defense worker like myself I can’t tell you anything about either of those people other then that it is the life that they chose or in my case the life the that chose me.
Yep just because you work for the Dept of Defence doesn't mean you support the War, Bush Policies or even a War Monger. Its a government job that has job security unlike the private sector now which boarders on anarchy, unless the government shuts down (possible but unlikely) you'll always have a job and more than likely retire from that same job.
I'm always told I'm way too smart to be working at an auto parts counter and they are right, I just haven't found my place in the world yet....
Rubber Nursey
08-04-08, 14:38
Stop right there... I don't think a person's career choice tells you anything about them. If a person is WG, Doctor or a Department of Defense worker like myself I can’t tell you anything about either of those people other then that it is the life that they chose or in my case the life the that chose me.
I didn't mean making an instant judgement on character based on their occupation - I'm the LAST person to want that to happen!
Sometimes it can reveal a specific passion or talent or skill, say if they're an artist, or a dive instructor, or in a caring/helping profession. Sometimes it gives you a bigger-picture view of their lifestyle, like doctors/police usually work long hours and are often on call, or oil riggers/defence contractors may spend extended periods out of the country (important information to have if you're considering dating someone). And other times it's just a conversation starter that leads to more personal information, like the guy who says he's working at Kmart while he completes his first novel, then goes on to tell me about his passion for writing. If I asked *you* about your job and you told me it 'chose you', my next question would be "What would you rather be doing?" I just find occupation to be an unobtrusive way of getting people talking about themselves.
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It is my opinion, this woman has been recently involved in a nasty breakup with a husband or boyfriend and was probably chucked overboard for a much younger more attractive woman. So, to satisfy her hurt feelings, she places this ad to juice up her badly damaged ego.
America is the only country, I know of, where women have this much power over men.
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Do you care to join?
Follow me, and I will lead you to my den of passion and eroticy. Let's join one another, and satisfy our needs. There are no strings attached, just rich, ecstatic joy! Wanting hard, throbbing dicks that are up to the task...
***
an addendum:
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I have two sisters, both of whom are very bright. The older one is not cute, has a penchant for loser men, is dead broke even though she makes over $100k a year, and once told me she had never had a man go down on her, which was too much information.
The other one was cute when she younger and has big tits but she is a complete ***** who has her husband's balls totally twisted into a knot, and she's let herself go completely: fat, dresses in schmatas, etc.
Both of them are workaholics. Whereas, my brother retired at 42 and I just work seven months a year. Not sure how that happened. My younger sister has so much money that if I had her money I would throw my money away but all she cares about is piling up more. Maybe that is why my nephew is doing 20 years in Huntsville for violence against women.
If you've got all of those why are you dating a chick for MONTHS and not getting anywhere?
I have no idea! It is a puzzle for me. I think one of the problems could be that once they know what I do (such as travel, etc..) they realize that they won't be able to have a total control over me(I have noticed that women in America like to have control and kick their man ass), and they realize that I have fun when travel. So they do not wanna deal with me, since I'm not going to kiss their ass all the time.
On the other hand, my girlfriends from other countries realize that I hang out with other girls, and they do not have a problem with that. Of course they do not like that, but they accept this.
Another problem could be that while I am becoming older I still like younger girls. But In America women tend to like man of the same age or even younger. Opposite to what is customary in other countries. I can hardly find an attractive enough woman of my age (30's). Those chicks also are too "serious", have a lot of stupid goals, career, etc.. so my life style is not compatible with them.
But it's irrelevant, perhaps you are living in a place where the social dynamics are considerably worse than what I experienced. I also agree that pursuing women overseas is a most satisfying and rather easy (albeit ultimately expensive) hobby.
Yes, you are right. The place where I live is pretty messed up. It is very far from the best what USA can offer. Although here is one big University, which does not help much, except there are foreign girls, whom you can easily approach, at the very least they are gonna smile and be friendly, while many Americans may give you very mean look, like what the fuck do you want, I'm here with friends, etc...
I also however contend that the state of the American female is not AS bad as it often is suggested here.
They aren't ALL hyperfat, unkempt, sniveling biaches that only want to screw your pocketbook.
There does seem to be a dating/mating imbalance in the US however, even though I've heard other nations complain about their own women being inferior as well.
Of course there are some nice American women (I really hope:)
But to make it simple to decide which women are better, simply ask:
- How many desperate Latin men are coming to the USA to find an American wifie or GF?
- How many Russian men complain that Russian women are bad, ugly, etc.., so then need to look for a wife in the USA or Western Europe?
- How many Asian men complain that Asian women do not make a good wife, so they are dreaming of an American woman?
BTW, all those men are really proud of their women. Virtually all them believe that their women are the best.
- How many Asian men complain that Asian women do not make a good wife, so they are dreaming of an American woman?
None complain that American women make better wives that Asian women. Many complain that local women are not 'available' enough for local men and they have to go to other Asian countries to look for wives.
Lower income Japanese regularly use marriage agencies to find Filipino wives. Many South Korean men try to find Chinese wives. An article I read explained that it has to do with social class and family ties. Women from middle class and upper class families MUST marry men from similar class/family backgrounds. Due to the preference for sons over daughters, there is now a marked shortage of women available for lower class men.
Some Asian men like the 'look' of American/Western women, ie big breasts. Those men are looking for American wives.
Of course there are some nice American women (I really hope:)
But to make it simple to decide which women are better, simply ask:
- How many desperate Latin men are coming to the USA to find an American wifie or GF?
- How many Russian men complain that Russian women are bad, ugly, etc.., so then need to look for a wife in the USA or Western Europe?
- How many Asian men complain that Asian women do not make a good wife, so they are dreaming of an American woman?
BTW, all those men are really proud of their women. Virtually all them believe that their women are the best.In my opinion its mainly a matter of economics, and in some cases, demographics. Western men want foreign women for the same reason that people in California hire Mexican gardeners. You can get more for less overseas. Everybody knows the story of the guy who couldn't get a girl to spit on him at home, but scores a sexy girlfriend overseas. And when it comes to prostitutes you can get the same service for far less overseas, with more girls available. Part of it is North America, Western Europe, etc. Are relatively well-off compared to many developing countries.
Another factor is demographics. North America, Europe and Japan all have low birthrates. Lots of aging people, not so many young people. And most men want young women. This means that there's a bunch of aging guys competing for the same young women. In many developing countries, on the other hand, like Philippines, for example, the population is mainly young. So there are far more young women available.
while I am becoming older I still like younger girls. But In America women tend to like man of the same age or even younger. Opposite to what is customary in other countries. I can hardly find an attractive enough woman of my age (30's). Those chicks also are too "serious", have a lot of stupid goals, career, etc.. so my life style is not compatible with them.
I totally hear you buddy. A lot of us are in the same boat (ie. we still like 'em young, but the feeling sure as hell isn't mutual).
As far as "serious" goes, bullshit says I. Most of these so-called serious career women would drop and spread 'em in a heartbeat if they ever met the right guy. Or. at least, what they consider to be the right guy for them..... whatever the fuck that might be. I still haven't figured THAT one out.
What you need to do is decide whether you're in category A (prefer to pay for it) or are you in category B (you'd rather beg for it). Technically speaking, begging for it is free. But being in category A is much more empowering and here's why.
Paying for, and therefore getting access to, p*ssy means you are no longer dependent on your teaser kunt of a girlfriend for sex. Therefore you can tell her that "You feel like it's high time your relationship went to the next level". If she says some crap about not being ready, call her bluff. Tell her you're gonna go "explore your options" or something like that. You'll be able to say this with 100% confidence because (being in category A) you can get laid anytime you want. She'll see that you're serious and will either cave in and give you some action, or she'll tell you to take a hike. So you either start getting laid, or you just got rid of a little teaser that was never gonna put out anyways. Either way you win!
Rock
Doctor_Skank
08-06-08, 08:01
another problem could be that while i am becoming older i still like younger girls. but in america women tend to like man of the same age or even younger. opposite to what is customary in other countries. i can hardly find an attractive enough woman of my age (30's). those chicks also are too "serious", have a lot of stupid goals, career, etc.. so my life style is not compatible with them.
that is my major issue with us women and to a certain degree european women as well. though not exclusively as women of all ages have certain qualities i find very appealing, i do also like young (18-22) girls for a lot of reasons.
of course there are cases of the older "experienced and interesting" guy and the younger girl in western cultures as well, but it is rare and still carries a social stigma with it in most parts of the us and europe.
contrarily, i can talk to an 18-year old in russia for example and get some jealous stares from the guys her age, but generally i am at least going to get some traction and not get blown out immediately. i've gotten plenty of action this way. the social stigma is less as well, or even non-existent. the "older" guy is however expected to carry some social clout with him, whether that be money or position. just being old isn't really fascinating in itself, even if the "life experience" factor does play out positively.
in the us and europe young (18-22) girls generally date exclusively within their peer group or at most, guys one age bracket up... say 20 year old girl with 27 year old guy. i don't receive a rude response when i (almost 40) chat up young girls in the us/europe, but i do often get a wtf kind of look. either they aren't used to it, are put off by it or simply confused. their peer group will generally be totally against it. some dynamic cities like ny or la will have more old guy/young girl dating, but this is not the norm for the us and most of this is seemingly in places supporting industries where girls are looking to fuck themselves up the social ladder fast.
attitudes towards seem to be changing in ee as well though, at least to a certain degree as young men in those countries gain in social status/money, i.e. future perspectives for the girls. nonetheless, it still offers me personally the best social atmosphere to correspond to my dating habits and tastes.
That is my major issue with US women and to a certain degree European women as well. Though not exclusively as women of all ages have certain qualities I find very appealing, I do also like young (18-22) girls for a lot of reasons.
Doctor, I guess now you see what my problem is. Also once EE women come to the USA, in many cases they change and become similar to AW.
BTW, one day I was talking to some chicks in a mall, and the only one who was really considering to be my GF turned out to be 17. First I assumed she was 20-22 or something(she's already got chubby legs) but unfortunately she was younger. But the major issue, was - when she she asked my age and calculated the age difference, she was kinda in shock that I'm twice older than her. At least she reacted smiling, positive and was pleasantly surprised that such an old fart was interested in her. I guess her brain is not completely messed up yet, but she is on the way to become a real AW.
It's kinda messed up, here many girls look like they're kinda old (well over 20), but they are much younger in reality. one my Moscow GF is 25, but you would never think she is more than 20.
gf you are right in that aw age very fast. this is due to many factors including eating lots of junk food, not exercising, hummers (not the good kind!) and their generally negative sour attitudes.
so true the stigma of older guy/younger girl in the us. in most parts of the world no one would bat an eye.
db609, it's not just demographics and economics (hiring a mexican gardener) that drives the desire in the us for foreign women; it's far more complex than that. feminism and religious conservatism has made the seeking of sex to be a crime. feminists and religious wackos have been successful in the stigmatizing of sex. you have the feminists equating all heterosexual acts as [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), and the wackos urging young girls to make "chastity pledges" because their virginity is their most valuable asset. no wonder with this irrationally dehumanizing and psychotic puritanical environment guys are seeking wives/sex friends/p4p abroad.
DJ FourMoney
08-06-08, 22:36
In my opinion its mainly a matter of economics, and in some cases, demographics. Western men want foreign women for the same reason that people in California hire Mexican gardeners. You can get more for less overseas. Everybody knows the story of the guy who couldn't get a girl to spit on him at home, but scores a sexy girlfriend overseas. And when it comes to prostitutes you can get the same service for far less overseas, with more girls available. Part of it is North America, Western Europe, etc. Are relatively well-off compared to many developing countries.
Another factor is demographics. North America, Europe and Japan all have low birthrates. Lots of aging people, not so many young people. And most men want young women. This means that there's a bunch of aging guys competing for the same young women. In many developing countries, on the other hand, like Philippines, for example, the population is mainly young. So there are far more young women available.
Eh?
Low birthrates I agree with, but where I draw the line I do not go overseas because women in America won't pay attention to me. That's utter nonsense!
If I put any effort into it, I could have dates with countless local women many in their 30's, with children, which I do not find ideal at all having dated women with children before. Call it selfish if choose but I only want to be around MY children, not somebody else's child per say. Now if I married a single mother that's different and she brings much more to the table than just a low paying job, low education and constant drag on finances that could have been controlled like making your then boyfriend wear a condom...
Most of these women have NEVER BEEN MARRIED, they are not all products of DIVORCE.
DJ FourMoney
08-06-08, 22:52
that is my major issue with us women and to a certain degree european women as well. though not exclusively as women of all ages have certain qualities i find very appealing, i do also like young (18-22) girls for a lot of reasons.
of course there are cases of the older "experienced and interesting" guy and the younger girl in western cultures as well, but it is rare and still carries a social stigma with it in most parts of the us and europe.
contrarily, i can talk to an 18-year old in russia for example and get some jealous stares from the guys her age, but generally i am at least going to get some traction and not get blown out immediately. i've gotten plenty of action this way. the social stigma is less as well, or even non-existent. the "older" guy is however expected to carry some social clout with him, whether that be money or position. just being old isn't really fascinating in itself, even if the "life experience" factor does play out positively.
in the us and europe young (18-22) girls generally date exclusively within their peer group or at most, guys one age bracket up... say 20 year old girl with 27 year old guy. i don't receive a rude response when i (almost 40) chat up young girls in the us/europe, but i do often get a wtf kind of look. either they aren't used to it, are put off by it or simply confused. their peer group will generally be totally against it. some dynamic cities like ny or la will have more old guy/young girl dating, but this is not the norm for the us and most of this is seemingly in places supporting industries where girls are looking to fuck themselves up the social ladder fast.
attitudes towards seem to be changing in ee as well though, at least to a certain degree as young men in those countries gain in social status/money, i.e. future perspectives for the girls. nonetheless, it still offers me personally the best social atmosphere to correspond to my dating habits and tastes.
what will keeps the ee prevalent for dating and marrying younger women is that some of the prosperity you talk about hasn't spread much beyond the larger cities that are quickly becoming international cites (kiev, st pete, bucharest, etc). cities that previously relied on jobs and industry from mother russia are falling into decay or slowly changing and many people can't afford to leave or travel to these larger cities, not until they are finished in school (if we are talking strictly univ women) at least.
nevermind the visa restrictions that keeps most of these ladies in their home countries or where they can travel without such restrictions. seems egypt and turkey are high on the "vacation spot" list for many of these women.
there still plenty of uncharted waters in the ee as well as these countries are not tourist destinations just yet or ever.
i haven't talked to her in a about 10 days but i am in contact with a young lady all of 21. she's working over the summmer so she can afford to go back to school in the fall. could i hook up with a 21 year old in los angeles? maybe but how many girls would i have to run through before i found one that was comfortable with the age gap?
frankly i just don't think they are worth the effort...
DJ FourMoney
08-06-08, 23:07
gf you are right in that aw age very fast. this is due to many factors including eating lots of junk food, not exercising, hummers (not the good kind!) and their generally negative sour attitudes.
so true the stigma of older guy/younger girl in the us. in most parts of the world no one would bat an eye.
db609, it's not just demographics and economics (hiring a mexican gardener) that drives the desire in the us for foreign women; it's far more complex than that. feminism and religious conservatism has made the seeking of sex to be a crime. feminists and religious wackos have been successful in the stigmatizing of sex. you have the feminists equating all heterosexual acts as [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), and the wackos urging young girls to make "chastity pledges" because their virginity is their most valuable asset. no wonder with this irrationally dehumanizing and psychotic puritanical environment guys are seeking wives/sex friends/p4p abroad.
we do have a purtian streek (well i should say caucasians have a puritan streek) and the value of viginity is vastly overrated. only a handful of girls would raise their hand to say they wish they kept it, mainly because it was the manner in which they lost their virginity that's the major issue not the fact that they lost it.
beware of jail bait, teen girls tend to look for somebody that will treat them with respect, as a woman, not a girl. this is because girls mature into women faster and not just physically. many of them secretly relish to have a sexual experience with a man that knows what he is doing. none of that youthful playing around, not quite sure what your doing, etc, etc, we've all been there... this tends not to make the first sexual experience the stuff of harlequin romance novels...
the official line on the subject of slightly less than legal women is - no!
the grey area that is reality is far different...
Once you fuck over 500 women you realize that skill, experience, and enthusiasm are what counts. And, it's hard to gain skill without experience. And if enthusiasm is lacking, then where is the motivation to gain quality experience?
So then you look at motivation. What is an American woman's motivation? Very little. Most have access to jobs and even without that, many have access to money. Lots of them have mucho family money.
Whereas, consider the motivation in Latin America. The women need money. They may have a steady man who provides the basics but that doesn't provide the money they need to help their relatives, improve their status, and buy (possibly superfluous amounts of) clothing and shoes.
Hence (virtually) every woman in Latin America is at least open to the possibility of fucking a financially established (or seemingly so) guy of any age if will improve her lot in life. Plus they know that the older you are the more your desire will decrease. Oh wait a minute; Viagra. I bet women, if a poll were taken, would like to abolish Viagra.
Would Charles go to jail these days?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8KJiay6EI0&feature=related
CBGBConnisur
08-08-08, 16:36
We do have a purtian streek (well I should say Caucasians have a Puritan streek) and the value of viginity is vastly overrated. Only a handful of girls would raise their hand to say they wish they kept it, mainly because it was the manner in which they lost their virginity that's the major issue not the fact that they lost it.
Beware of jail bait, teen girls tend to look for somebody that will treat them with respect, as a woman, not a girl. This is because girls mature into women faster and not just physically. Many of them secretly relish to have a sexual experience with a man that knows what he is doing. None of that youthful playing around, not quite sure what your doing, etc, etc, we've all been there... This tends not to make the first sexual experience the stuff of Harlequin Romance Novels...
The official line on the subject of slightly less than legal women is - NO!
The GREY area that is reality is far different...
Caucasians puritanical!!?? LOL. There are many parts of Europe where public nudity is common. Germany is one place that immediately comes to my mind. I
actually took a trip to one their saunas and could not believe how people ran around casually butt naked, it was a quite a sight.
Asians are actually far more wound up than whites with regards to sexuality. In India a picture of a woman in a bikini is considered pornographic. Asian countries like Japan and China are also very strung up about sexuality in public places.
Germany is not exclusive to nudity, I could go about anywhere in Europe and see it, Spain, France, Italy, even parts of the Eastern bloc.
Even many Australians are casual about public sexuality, there are many nude beaches around the country, although Australians are not as open about it as Europeans but more than North Americans.
Today I talked to one American dude. he's only 20. And he already have learned that the American women are ugly bitches. - He's words! I even tried to argue. Then just for fun we made a test, I talked to two American girls. One of them first was kinda interested(just to talk) but had a BF and then said she does not wanna do anything with me. The other one admitted(!!!) she was single, but still she said NO(does not to do anything with me either). Anyway, both of them are hard to talk to, they have no idea how to flirt, how to talk to men, they are just plainly dumb and stupid. It is funny cause I can now easily talk and flirt in my fucked up Spanish with Latin girls, but cannot do this in English with most AW!
But at the same time they(those american girls) make a big deal out of them, and behave like they are the shit, and the only reason for that they've got a hole between their legs, although I really doubt they know what it is for. Some guys here brag they could score with AW if they wanted to, but they still dream/score with foreign chicks. Why do not just admit AW do suck big time, they got no class! And they have no idea how to behave.
Caucasians puritanical!!?? LOL. There are many parts of Europe where public nudity is common. Germany is one place that immediately comes to my mind.
Asians are actually far more wound up than whites with regards to sexuality. In India a picture of a woman in a bikini is considered pornographic. Asian countries like Japan and China are also very strung up about sexuality in public places.
I agree with DJ. You are mixing apples and oranges. The public display of sexuality is one thing while the private expresion of sexuality through the sex acts is quite another. In private, the Asians are much less hung up about sex (according to those in the know) than Westerners, Americans in particular. Note that prostitution is legal in most eastern nations, while it is prosecuted to the point of perscution in the US.
I agree with DJ. You are mixing apples and oranges. The public display of sexuality is one thing while the private expresion of sexuality through the sex acts is quite another. In private, the Asians are much less hung up about sex (according to those in the know) than Westerners, Americans in particular. Note that prostitution is legal in most eastern nations, while it is prosecuted to the point of perscution in the US.
From Japan to PI its been my experience that Asian women are dynamos in bed. I am not talking about the P4P I am talking about the normal girls you pick up who genuine want to fuck you. The enthusiasm I have experienced has been unmatched by other ethnicies. In public most convey this almost child-like innocence its kind of funny to watch them turn into sex maniacs once the clothes come off....
It's not Caucasions who are puritanical; it's Americans. Whether it's expressed through the lens of feminism or religious fanaticism the fear of sex is essentially the same thing. For complex deep-seated historical reasons. Don't blame Europe! And nearly every American group, if assimilated enough, becomes puritanical sex-haters regardless of color or background.
DW is right. My experience with dozens of Asian girls, normal everyday ones (office workers/students/professionals) not sex workers or pornstars, is that they give the public impression of conservatism but in private are total ininhibited sex maniacs. As opposed to American girls who might tease you by their dress/behavior with the promise of good times yet are unwilling/unable to deliver the goods. Polar opposite.
DJ FourMoney
08-09-08, 11:47
It's not Caucasions who are puritanical; it's Americans. Whether it's expressed through the lens of feminism or religious fanaticism the fear of sex is essentially the same thing. For complex deep-seated historical reasons. Don't blame Europe! And nearly every American group, if assimilated enough, becomes puritanical sex-haters regardless of color or background.
DW is right. My experience with dozens of Asian girls, normal everyday ones (office workers/students/professionals) not sex workers or pornstars, is that they give the public impression of conservatism but in private are total ininhibited sex maniacs. As opposed to American girls who might tease you by their dress/behavior with the promise of good times yet are unwilling/unable to deliver the goods. Polar opposite.
Well maybe I should have been more specific, I would agree that Americans are puritanical and that assmilation makes it cross racial lines as well.
CBGBConnisur
08-09-08, 17:21
Asian women for the most part do not display their sexuality in public, its a big no no in many parts of Asia. Even pictures of women in Bikinis in India for example is considered pornography and could get you in trouble if you had access to it. In private its a different matter.
Still its far more likely for a white woman to show off her assets in public than any other group, I would also consider Latin women white for many reasons. Even American women overseas behave differently.
Where I live, its not uncommon to see teenage girls on the beach taking off their tops.
Yogin you are so right!!!! Asian gals, especially Chinese, Korean, Japanese, put up a conservative front but are complete sex maniacs in the bedroom.
DW is right. My experience with dozens of Asian girls, normal everyday ones (office workers/students/professionals) not sex workers or pornstars, is that they give the public impression of conservatism but in private are total uninhibited sex maniacs.
As opposed to American girls who might tease you by their dress/behavior with the promise of good times yet are unwilling/unable to deliver the goods. Polar opposite.
Tarius Shinobi
08-09-08, 22:47
AW are the most Un-desirable women in the world!
Thanks to feminism! Yeah baby.
From my limited experience AW are open and fairly easy to direct approach.To Europeans they seem really easy because they are not complicated.
They also seem to follow some guidelines and get advice from their male friends.Many of them have a lot of money.So they are not a bad case.
Genarally american women have seemed to me vulnerable but I cannot express it very good.I will reprt when I get more experience.
DJ FourMoney
08-10-08, 11:10
From my limited experience AW are open and fairly easy to direct approach.To Europeans they seem really easy because they are not complicated.
They also seem to follow some guidelines and get advice from their male friends.Many of them have a lot of money.So they are not a bad case.
Generally American women have seemed to me vulnerable but I cannot express it very good.I will report when I get more experience.
AW will react differently to men not from America, geez I through foreign guys would have figured it out already. They leave the home country to act out like they know they can't at home and without somebody knowing...
That being said, AW have us (not me and not many here) under their thumb so there's no reason for them to give up that control for a European man they know is fair more educatd and liberal than the average American male and will bail on a woman in a second if they try their typical nonsense with a man from Europe.
As I said before -
Opposites Attract!
AW want something different from the typical, the norm.
EU men want something different from typical, the norm.
Does it make them (AW) ideal for long term relationships? Not in my observation....
Far more English women marry American men for example
Far more German Women marry American men for another example
So maybe to many EU men AW are just sex partners, making them ideal for short term relationships and nothing more. Yes you can find that perfect pebble or grain of sand, but not likely to strike even gold anytime or EVER!
I haven't looked at any recent stats but I would be willing to BET that Gen X (those born after '64 in America) is the largest population of men never married before and for good reason.
AW to Europeans - STR consideration only
AM to Europeans - Ideal for anything under the sun...
AW to AM - FAIL, 80% Divorce Rate, explosion of Single Parent Households, etc, etc, etc
Folks, here in a nut shell is all you need to know about AW.
AW to Europeans - STR consideration only
AM to Europeans - Ideal for anything under the sun...
AW to AM - FAIL, 80% Divorce Rate, explosion of Single Parent Households, etc, etc, etc
Folks, here in a nut shell is all you need to know about AW.
Ok dudes, it's not about AW only, it is about America and AM too. Foor example. yesterday I went to a AMP. It sucked big time. I do not even want to describe it. But they(the stuff/mamasan/etc) were thinking they were really good, and asking if I liked it.. I said not really, they got offended! I would say it is a joke, or honestly disgusting. Do not get me wrong, I appreciate all their effort, but they do suck big time(in my particular case). ad the money I spent.. I had seen 1000 times better better Asian women, in Thailand of course;) for 10 times less.
I guess USA has unbelievably so low standards for sex, that bad service and disgusting quality satisfy USA men! At the same time they spend thousands$$$ while watching(only!) strippers.
Naked Gunz
08-10-08, 18:21
I guess USA has unbelievably so low standards for sex, that bad service and disgusting quality satisfy USA men! At the same time they spend thousands$$$ while watching(only!) strippers.
A lot of that comes from having no or very lilttle travel. Not exposed to new ideas, things or people. You would tend to inherit mindset of those around you and who raised you. Which is what has been said here over and over..America is very much a sexually repressed country, (outwardly).
Theres a lot going on behind closed doors though.
Those AMP tramps know this and will give lousy service. They will be shut down eventually anyway- why go all out??
I do not enjoy dating American dating scene, but I can't group all AW women into this fucked up mindset. I have many times met women that bang my brains out on the first date. I guess they just make up their mind if they like you enough, it will be your lucky night.
And of course, the other women that decide they will make you work for it, only to get nothing but the privlidge of kissing her ass to try to fuck her.. There are far too many of those here...Good luck.
Fortunately I spend very little time around AW down here but I had one inflicted on me last night and in four hours she exhibited every conceivable reason to never be around one again. Cock teasing various guys all night long, got completely shit faced and couldn't handle it, talked about herself all night long. So you were valedictorian of your high school. Great. You told me that three times. That was fifteen years ago. Who cares? And if you want to go outside and smoke a cigarette, just do it. You don't need to pretend you have to make a phone call. You don't know anyone here so who the fuck would you be calling. Never paid for any drinks or any cabs. Talked about her impending divorce and how inadequate men are.
But she wasn't fat.
Ok dudes, it's not about AW only, it is about America and AM too. I guess USA has unbelievably so low standards for sex, that bad service and disgusting quality satisfy USA men! At the same time they spend thousands$$$ while watching(only!) strippers.
I agree, AM are so starved for sex they do desperate things..I've never figured out why men go to Strip clubs, a complete waste of $$$$$ IMHO.
Tarius Shinobi
08-10-08, 22:12
AW are a bunch of attention: (W)omen (H)olding (O)ut (R)eal (E)rotic (S)ex!
DJ FourMoney
08-11-08, 14:11
aw are a bunch of attention: (w)omen (h)olding (o)ut (r)eal (e)rotic (s)ex!
totally....
i still wonder what people see in american style strip clubs aka "clip joints"?
if you haven't been to canada or mexico and been to what they consider a "strip club" then you haven't lived!
am from north to south, east and west are lost souls mostly clueless and figure that they have to take what's given too them. the "ask men".com site is full of nonsense like this -
"how to navigate nightclubs"
code for "big city hot spots" = the in crowd or aka those that wanna be in but the in's choose to keep them out.
http://www.askmen.com/money/how_to_400/418_how_to.html
one guy made some sense and posted this comment -
the clubs in my city (read: any large to medium us city) have large numbers of drunk men with the odd guy who wants a fight. and any attractive woman has plenty of guys around her. being cool gets the women interested, but then you have to navigate male jealousy and aggression. why go out at all its like a jungle.
yes i concur why work your away around passive aggressive types and other "nerds" that haven't a clue and hold up walls all night????
why does it have to be said you can find a nice aw? sure you can, you can also win the lottery, speed 20 miles over the speed limit and not get caught every time you do it, have sex without a condom and not catch aids, but which one of these is most likely to happen the most often????
you guessed it, meeting ms wrong....
a majority of american women diss you because of social status and that simply is unlikely to happen in many other places on earth. mostly because even the poor in america are considered rich by some countries standards and how many european families have an average of 4 cars per household, 3 computers and 6 tv's (including a 52" rear projection) and this is called middle class by american standards...lol
if your working for around min wage by eu standards you can't even afford a car or even a apartment/flat in most cases or you have to make a choice, one or the other....
that's why its pefectly acceptable to be an average joe in america and european women do not have a problem with that at all (in many cases its an upgrade in lifestyle). of course the eu has gold diggers, but they tend to stand out like sore thumbs and easy to avoid.
so until this dynamic changes back to where it was in the 50's and 60's where if you worked for the city or in a machine shop, made a decent living and women didn't dog you for it, then relationships will continue to be modeled around how much money you make and not what she brings to the table.
this is been talked about ad nauseum..
Chocha Monger
08-11-08, 14:31
So until this dynamic changes back to where it was in the 50's and 60's where if you worked for the city or in a machine shop, made a decent living and women didn't dog you for it, then relationships will continue to be modeled around how much money YOU MAKE and not what SHE brings to the table.
It's not going to change back. AW are perfectly willing to hold out into middle age for a rich handsome man. They don't give up on their Prada dreams while earning a Walmart salary. The slender pretty ones usually snag someone who can maintain them very early in the game, just look at the occasional cute one, there is sure to be a rock on the finger. The average ones hold out while getting sport fucked by guys with money who never commit, eventually they settle for Joe Average after having miles of cock ran through their frame.
...The average ones hold out while getting sport fucked by guys with money who never commit, eventually they settle for Joe Average after having miles of cock ran through their frame.And yet you say that like it's a bad thing.
It's not going to change back. AW are perfectly willing to hold out into middle age for a rich handsome man. They don't give up on their Prada dreams while earning a Walmart salary. The slender pretty ones usually snag someone who can maintain them very early in the game, just look at the occasional cute one, there is sure to be a rock on the finger. The average ones hold out while getting sport fucked by guys with money who never commit, eventually they settle for Joe Average after having miles of cock ran through their frame.
I think it will change back, but not until there are drastic changes in US society.
I was thinking that the current oil crisis could precipitate that change, since fewer women than men can afford to pay such high gas prices for sustained periods of time. But now that crude is falling, that may not be the tipping event.
Still, if oil only falls to $100 and gas stays at or above $3.00 a gallon for a year or more, then the many women will face severe financial pressure. I think that pressure will force most to make a choice well before middle age. The competition for rich men will become fierce and only the most gorgeous will win that lottery.
The most stupid of the rest will let the train leave the station thinking there is another one on the way. But the trains, like the planes, have cut back on their schedules, so the next train will be a long time coming! The less stupid will realize that and get on the train that is in the station now.
How stupid can the Harlequin Romance fanstasy make AW's? Only time will tell and I don't plan on being in the US when that answer comes.
A majority of American women DISS you because of SOCIAL STATUS and that simply is unlikely to happen in many other places on earth. Mostly because even the POOR in America are considered RICH by some countries standards and how many European families have an average of 4 cars per household, 3 Computers and 6 TV's (Including a 52" Rear Projection) and this is called MIDDLE CLASS by American standards...lol
If your working for around min wage by EU standards you can't even afford a car or even a apartment/flat in most cases or you have to make a choice, one or the other....
That's why its PEFECTLY acceptable to be an Average Joe in America and European women do not have a problem with that at all (in many cases its an upgrade in lifestyle). Of course the EU has Gold Diggers, but they tend to stand out like sore thumbs and easy to avoid.
I think You are not well enough informed about normal european wages and conditions. Here are some facts, from my country, its a Nordic one, preventing Americans come to Europe under false circumstances.
We do not have so much lower or middle class as in USA. Just a few are really rich. Peoples wages are more or less the same, also between men and women. Today most people have good education, at least 12 - 13 year, and mostly more. Most scools and university are public and more or less free. Living costs when study, one can have scholarship and affordable loans, covered by the state. (This is why we pay tax.)
Most woman have well paid work after study, then if having children, stop to work one or two years. In this time, when taking care of the child, the woman, eventually partly the man, are paid by the state. This goes also for when You are unemployed, or are sick, You keep Your salary, at least 66 % of an average of latest 3 years earning. This is also paid by the state.
A woman or man with normal education have a good wage. If a woman work as a civil engineer, the average wage (2008) is 132,670 US Dollar. (37,5 hours per week, Norwegians are normally working 25 % less than American's ) Now, if her married one earns similar, they have US $ 265,000 per year to buy those cars, flats and those TV's You are describing as to be so important. (Europeans don't share this view, mostly of environmentally reasons...)
I really don't believe that an "Average Joe from America" have this much to add for a Nordic woman, she can perfectly manage herself and have few worries about her private economy. So American's, better stick to third word countries.
Balluba
Yesterday, in a bar I talked to one guy, I showed him some pics of hot Colombian girls. His reaction was interesting. Usually people get exited and start asking where they could meet those girls. But this guy got kinda pissed and not too happy to see what I was showing to him. He asked that why the hell I'm showing him these pics, that we've got plenty of hot girls here in the USA, so there is no point to go to other countries. I told him that it's not only girls looks but also their "availability". He had no clue what I was talking about.
I think he decided I am some crazy weirdo. Also he could not answer my question that if here are so many nice hot girls why the hell he was sitting in the bar alone.
If a woman work as a civil engineer, the average wage (2008) is 132,670 US Dollar. (37,5 hours per week, Norwegians are normally working 25 % less than American's ) Now, if her married one earns similar, they have US $ 265,000 per year to buy those cars, flats and those TV's You are describing as to be so important.
$265,000 a year sounds like a lot of money. However this statement is somewhat misleading because pre-tax figures are used (my assumption).
Balluba himself mentioned the high taxes required to pay for all those social benefits. I'm not familiar with Norwiegian income tax rates, but would be willing to bet they're paying around 60 or 70% at the income levels being discussed. A 70% income tax on a 265,000 income would leave you with slightly LESS than $80,000/yr...... and this from an educated two-income family. Not so great IMO.
Tarius, that was a great acronym! Here's one I like also..... Western women = O.P.E.C. the Organization of Pussy Exploiting Connivers (the C could also stand for something a bit more rude :D)
As far as AW attitudes being influenced by the economy....... doubt it. The crazy and false ideology of feminist equality has now had an entire generation to become entrenched in the minds of countless women. It's not going to go away just because of some economic turbulence.
There actually are quite a few good ones out there. Go to any mall or movie theater and you'll see plenty of good looking women. Lot's of them have decent personalities and attitudes as well. The real problem is that, just like the saying, all the good ones are taken! So whether a guy goes looking for a girlfriend, or just to have some fun...... we have to sift through mostly second and third rate women to find what we want. This gives the appearance that all AWs suck.
Rock
$265,000 a year sounds like a lot of money. However this statement is somewhat misleading because pre-tax figures are used (my assumption).
Balluba himself mentioned the high taxes required to pay for all those social benefits. I'm not familiar with Norwiegian income tax rates, but would be willing to bet they're paying around 60 or 70% at the income levels being discussed. A 70% income tax on a 265,000 income would leave you with slightly LESS than $80,000/yr...... and this from an educated two-income family. Not so great IMO.
Rock
Tax is normally 28 %, normal wages. It is possible You have to pay more, if there are few deductions. But normally never more than 45-49 %. These taxes includes health insurance as hospitals are free. In general it is not so easy to compare the different countries as some have social benefits others don't have, also some have hidden taxes other pay separately.
Analyzes tells us that "seriously poor americans" increased with 26 % between 2000 og 2005. This analyze define extreme as a family of four, with two children, as have to live with an income of 9.903 dollar. This is the daily life of nearly 16 million Americans in 2005. I doubt these numbers are lower today.
Reverse, poverty does not exist in the Scandianavian language nearly nor in our reality. It is hard to see what a norwal wage American can offer these North European womens, as they are too economically independent.
My point was that one "Average Joe from America" should spend his money in other countries as provides more women for his declining dollars, than Europe. At least I do so :-)
As far as AW attitudes being influenced by the economy....... doubt it. The crazy and false ideology of feminist equality has now had an entire generation to become entrenched in the minds of countless women. It's not going to go away just because of some economic turbulence.
Rock
Attitudes? No. Behavior? Definitely!!!
We men crave for sex. When we can't afford it, we have less sex, though we still crave it just as much. Our resources influence our behavior. AWs are no different in that regard. They may crave a certain type of man and want to treat men badly. But if they simply do not have the means to do so because they need to work 2 jobs, save up for lipo, or something else, then they can't indulge themselves.
When the economy improves, their bad behaviors will return to match their attitudes.
NO MA'AM = National Organization of Men Against Amazonian Masterhood, founded by Al Bundy in "Married With Children".
http://www.bundyology.com/nomaam.html
Naked Gunz
08-12-08, 08:20
Tax is normally 28 %, normal ....
Analyzes tells us that "seriously poor americans" increased with 26 % between 2000 og 2005. This analyze define extreme as a family of four, with ,....
My point was that one "Average Joe from America" should spend his money in other countries as provides more women for his declining dollars, than Europe. At least I do so :-)
"seriously poor americans"...I take offense to this...FU and your post,*****
Get to the point-without writing a book your trying to sell.. Are any of you motherfuckers, poor -or even American? Judging and hating in this forum ON AW? Every third or fourth post is accurate when it comes to AW, you others are padding your post count. If your too stupid to get it, read:
Bottom line in USA and really anywhere...
All freakin females drift toward the stronger male to mate.
Money ........(Eighty something Hugh Hefner has maybe 5 GF)
Looks..........(Former framer Brad Pitt has the worlds most beautiful woman)
Personality...(IF your really funny, legs part like the Red Sea)
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Race...........(Need I say more! Anglo has conquored the world since time began, and enslaved people of color. As an Afr-Am man, I get non-Black pussy as a curiosity or experiment. Women just have to add a bro to their fuck resume, or its incomplete. But take me home to the fam! Fucking grounds for honor killing!
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Guess what guys...I think your anger is probably directed more towards the bleach/black blondes, (rubia), that turn you down. I really only see that attitude most pervasive in AW woman who think they are better than anyman they will ever meet.
I had an MD that I met online tell me I'm not good enough for her.
Conversly, I have had, and continue to have, woman that treat me quite well. Having read this quite active forum slamming AW, I took a good look back, and conclude "that is wrong"
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Now factor in,more or less, those components into HER life ( the object of your desire)and decipher then if you will connect,and thats it. Break it down to a variation of these factors and will obtain a succsess rate you will live with (or not), and take it from there.
"seriously poor americans"...I take offense to this...FU and your post,*****
Get to the point-without writing a book your trying to sell.. Are any of you motherfuckers, poor -or even American? Judging and hating in this forum ON AW? Every third or fourth post is accurate when it comes to AW, you others are padding your post count. If your too stupid to get it, read:
Bottom line in USA and really anywhere...
All freakin females drift toward the stronger male to mate.
Money ........(Eighty something Hugh Hefner has maybe 5 GF)
Looks..........(Former framer Brad Pitt has the worlds most beautiful woman)
Personality...(IF your really funny, legs part like the Red Sea)
==== SENSITIVE TOPIC=====
Race...........(Need I say more! Anglo has conquored the world since time began, and enslaved people of color. As an Afr-Am man, I get non-Black pussy as a curiosity or experiment. Women just have to add a bro to their fuck resume, or its incomplete. But take me home to the fam! Fucking grounds for honor killing!
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Guess what guys...I think your anger is probably directed more towards the bleach/black blondes, (rubia), that turn you down. I really only see that attitude most pervasive in AW woman who think they are better than anyman they will ever meet.
I had an MD that I met online tell me I'm not good enough for her.
Conversly, I have had, and continue to have, woman that treat me quite well. Having read this quite active forum slamming AW, I took a good look back, and conclude "that is wrong"
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Now factor in,more or less, those components into HER life ( the object of your desire)and decipher then if you will connect,and thats it. Break it down to a variation of these factors and will obtain a succsess rate you will live with (or not), and take it from there.
Yeah man I kind of think the thread is little dated. Women are the same all over the world.
DW1,
Have to agree with you on that one. I've said as much in previous posts myself. The big exception is when you're a guy "from somewhere else". Money aside, there seems to be better treatment by the local girls whenever the guy is from somewhere else.
Balluba,
You honestly don't see a lot of American men going to Sweden (Sverige) or Norway (Norsk) looking to pick up a girl for a wife. Why? Same shit different country. If a woman is making her own money (at a decent standard of living) they tend to get super picky about what kind of man is "good enough for them". It's like that here in Canada, the States and I suspect most of western Europe. There may be a few bright spots here and there but nothing worth mentioning.
Let's face it, the best women are always going to be from countries where women don't (or can't) make a lot of money. You can go a lot longer without sex than you can without money. So, it doesn't matter how beautiful the woman is, the guy with the money is still the real prize and they know it. That's why, in places like Latin America, DR and eastern Europe.... the women stay good looking and are ready to go without any of the BS attitudes like the ones we have here. This is also why women who live in countries where they can make their own money tend to be b*tchy demanding and hard to get along with.
My wife is hot, and 15 years younger than me..... and it's no problemo. I know a guy who married a really decent cuban girl, he's in his mid 50's and she's in here early 30's and they're doing OK. I know yet another guy who doesn't even have that great of a job and he landed himself the sweetest little phillipino hottie. I think he's mid to late 30's and she just turned 21. His dick must think it's died and gone to pussy heaven. A regular guy just can't expect these kinds of opportunities if he limits himself to AWs/local girls.
I could write more on this but it would just be pointless rambling so I'll end it here.
Rock
Yeah man I kind of think the thread is little dated. Women are the same all over the world.I disagree. I guess it is kinda "wise" to say such things. But I think women have only one thing in common - pussy. Otherwise they have different looks, culture, behavior, attitude, level of bitchiness, etc... And combinations of such traits tend to vary from region to region(or country). So of course they are different. Why would you be on this forum, if not?
I disagree. I guess it is kinda "wise" to say such things. But I think women have only one thing in common - pussy. Otherwise they have different looks, culture, behavior, attitude, level of bitchiness, etc... And combinations of such traits tend to vary from region to region(or country). So of course they are different. Why would you be on this forum, if not?What I mean by this is that they all want the same thing in life and general in men. Women from poorer countries settle on the fat, socially inept Joe-Blow a lot of time because of finances it’s that simple. If given half the chance or making a decent amount of money they would not. When I first went to the Philippines I was amazed how the girls were attracted to foreigners. A couple years later I was jettisoned to Dubai where I saw the same looking Filipinas the only difference was they had legit jobs. To say they were not so nice is an understatement.
NG is right its simple a choice of natural selection. Women like a certain kind of guy be America, Latin countries or Asia.
Chocha Monger
08-13-08, 05:01
I disagree. I guess it is kinda "wise" to say such things. But I think women have only one thing in common - pussy. Otherwise they have different looks, culture, behavior, attitude, level of bitchiness, etc... And combinations of such traits tend to vary from region to region(or country). So of course they are different. Why would you be on this forum, if not?
I agree. While women may share some of the same basic motivations such as resources and social status their behavior and attitude varies across countries and cultures. Japanese women are educated and make their own money but I hardly think that they have the same attitudes towards men as American women.
I agree. While women may share some of the same basic motivations such as resources and social status their behavior and attitude varies across countries and cultures. Japanese women are educated and make their own money but I hardly think that they have the same attitudes towards men as American women.Got damn CM, I was just about to go to work when I seen your post. Mentioning Japanese women is a bad analogy. Thousands of Japanese men go overseas every year looking for pussy, trust me their women are not that great and I have heard Japanese men make the same complaints you guys sit here and make everyday about American women LOL. I lived there for 10 months bruh.
Tarius Shinobi
08-13-08, 06:26
"Wide Sargasso Sea" is a classic movie, with two sexy non-AW female leads showing their hot bodies in the Caribbean.
The unrated version is "mmmm baby!"
Got damn CM I was just about to go to work when I seen your post. Mentioning Japanese women is a bad analogy. Thousands of Japanese men go overseas every year looking for pussy, trust me their women are not that great and I have heard Japanese men make the same complaints you guys sit here and make everyday about American women LOL. I lived there for 10 months bruh.
I think the point was not bad. Of course there are always people who complain. But everything is relative. Why not compare a Japanese woman to a Western/American? I would chose the Japanese. Also I know some European guys go to Japan, stay there and get married to Japanese women. I do not think that a Japanese woman is gonna ever kick her husband's ass like an AW would do.
Fortunately I spend very little time around AW down here but I had one inflicted on me last night and in four hours she exhibited every conceivable reason to never be around one again. Cock teasing various guys all night long, got completely shit faced and couldn't handle it, talked about herself all night long. So you were valedictorian of your high school. Great. You told me that three times. That was fifteen years ago. Who cares? And if you want to go outside and smoke a cigarette, just do it. You don't need to pretend you have to make a phone call. You don't know anyone here so who the fuck would you be calling. Never paid for any drinks or any cabs. Talked about her impending divorce and how inadequate men are.
But she wasn't fat.
Must have been a very traumatic experience to be sure. I hope your mental state is OK after that encounter.
A nice bolliche visit will work wonders and rekindle your faith in the female species.
The sad thing is that she likely thought she was the belle of the ball with her charming personality and habits that most American men like myself have to put up with every day.
Got damn CM I was just about to go to work when I seen your post. Mentioning Japanese women is a bad analogy. Thousands of Japanese men go overseas every year looking for pussy, trust me their women are not that great and I have heard Japanese men make the same complaints you guys sit here and make everyday about American women LOL. I lived there for 10 months bruh.
Any country that invents or uses the concept of a geisha is fine with me. American women cringe at the whole geisha idea thanks to our great womens lib movement.
Man that Japanese chick in the movie Babel was a turn-on especially during the club scene. Anybody don't know what I'm talking about need to see the movie for real...... Hello Kittie!
I heard a saying on this board possibly or somewhere else about how you have made it in life when you live in an French chateau/Italian villa with an English butler, have a Chinese chef, earn American dollars, and have A Japanese wife. Your life sucks when you live in a Japanese Apartment, have a Chinese butler, an English chef, get paid in pesos, and have an American wife.
What I mean by this is that they all want the same thing in life and general in men. Women from poorer countries settle on the fat, socially inept Joe-Blow a lot of time because of finances it’s that simple.
Yes, agree in general. But actually only some women from poor countries would do that. It seems like Asian women are more into that. But many women in Russia for example would never do this. I do not think Latin girls are really doing that. I am not talking about prostitutes.
Also I do not think that "the fat, socially inept Joe-Blow" must be such bad people who do not deserve anything in this life. It really depends. If they have balls to go to another country, bang and bring a hot chick, I think it's cool, better than nothing. Why struggling for something inferior in the USA? I know some guys who are very successful, very sociable, some are pretty rich. But I would never come close to their wifes(in case they were single), or unless I'm too hungry for sex in the USA. So even sociable/rich/not fat guys in many cases can get only average or less than average girls.
Also what's up with that engagement/marriage rings? Is it true you gotta pay a certain portion of your salary for that? When i had my wife(from FSU), I spent $200 on her ring. And she never thought or complained about it. She did not care. Also I know she was not materialistic at all, until she came to the USA, where "they" showed her how you must "live". During the divorce there was no courts or trials, although there was a good potential to get something from me. She probably just had not get "smart" enough yet. But I think she still had some good moral values she was brought up with in her home country.
So of course women have similar demands and potentials(I mean in a negative sense), but they are still very different depending where they are from and where they live.
DJ FourMoney
08-13-08, 22:01
I think You are not well enough informed about normal European wages and conditions. Here are some facts, from my country, its a Nordic one, preventing Americans come to Europe under false circumstances.
We do not have so much lower or middle class as in USA. Just a few are really rich. Peoples wages are more or less the same, also between men and women. Today most people have good education, at least 12 - 13 year, and mostly more. Most schools and university are public and more or less free. Living costs when study, one can have scholarship and affordable loans, covered by the state. (This is why we pay tax.)
Most woman have well paid work after study, then if having children, stop to work one or two years. In this time, when taking care of the child, the woman, eventually partly the man, are paid by the state. This goes also for when You are unemployed, or are sick, You keep Your salary, at least 66 % of an average of latest 3 years earning. This is also paid by the state.
A woman or man with normal education have a good wage. If a woman work as a civil engineer, the average wage (2008) is 132,670 US Dollar. (37,5 hours per week, Norwegians are normally working 25 % less than America's ) Now, if her married one earns similar, they have US $ 265,000 per year to buy those cars, flats and those TV's You are describing as to be so important. (Europeans don't share this view, mostly of environmentally reasons...)
I really don't believe that an "Average Joe from America" have this much to add for a Nordic woman, she can perfectly manage herself and have few worries about her private economy. So Americans, better stick to third word countries.
Balluba
Eh?
I keep saying it. Its NOT about the money. Now I'll caution this with "I'm African-American, what you experience MAY not be what I experience".
I didn't say you didn't have to have a decent job, I just said (have said) you don't need to be 6 digit income earner to be successful with ladies not from America. 6 digits will allow you some measure of success with woman from all over the world especially if your Caucasian.
Being the "White Knight" isn't my strong suit obviously. Being MYSELF is more my STRONG suit in Europe and regardless of WHAT you think, the reality is, more than a FEW Scandinavians are WILLING to come back to America with an American men despite all you just said. Because TRUTH be told, with that amount of Education and work experience and if you can speak conversational English, your MILES ahead of the average US College Grad and in the right environment can demand any amount of pay (within reason) for the same position you held in Europe, in essence you get same rate of pay, health care (paid by your employer) and less taxes. And if you get creative with the tax code, you'll make more money. What we have been steadily doing for the past 30 years is eroding away the "safety net" that occasionally catches out even a well-healed American.
My brotha, I would much rather deal with higher taxes, higher base wages, free education for myself, my children and my future wife and ultra low cost health care.
Unlike refugees which I am sure you have a problem with, I wouldn't move to another country without having my employment situation worked out before hand.
There's a small segment for whatever reason of the WORLD POPULATION that doesn't care about the unimportant stuff and just loves the fact I'm a "Sexy Black Man" and frankly that's PLENTY for them....
GF: yes there is some ridiculous standard regarding the value of the ring expressed as a percentage of income. Yet another reason I've never gotten ANY kind of ring for an AW.
And I am flabbergasted at the sheer volume of AM I see who appear to be well-employed, fit, well-dressed, and well-mannered, who are chained to fat slovenly rude AW's. This is not some freak happenstance. Rather it is more the rule! My best guess is that they have not traveled and have no inkling as to what they are missing. Or they have seen the disapproval rained upon AM who go abroad for greener pickings be it LT, ST, or marriage.
Daddy W: of course there are some commonalities among women worldwide, but I firmly believe there are strong differences that continue to prevail to this day based on history, culture, and religion or lack thereof. My last 4 girlfriends (and a nymber of sex friends!) were born and raised in East Asia, and they have been fulfilling in countless ways that I have never enjoyed with AW's. Great sex, not looking for a benefactor, and no BS.
And no, I couldn't care less as to whether I amass 10 posts or 10,000.
DJ FourMoney
08-13-08, 22:35
Yes, agree in general. But actually only some women from poor countries would do that. It seems like Asian women are more into that. But many women in Russia for example would never do this. I do not think Latin girls are really doing that. I am not talking about prostitutes.
Also I do not think that "the fat, socially inept Joe-Blow" must be such bad people who do not deserve anything in this life. It really depends. If they have balls to go to another country, bang and bring a hot chick, I think it's cool, better than nothing. Why struggling for something inferior in the USA? I know some guys who are very successful, very sociable, some are pretty rich. But I would never come close to their wifes(in case they were single), or unless I'm too hungry for sex in the USA. So even sociable/rich/not fat guys in many cases can get only average or less than average girls.
Also what's up with that engagement/marriage rings? Is it true you gotta pay a certain portion of your salary for that? When i had my wife(from FSU), I spent $200 on her ring. And she never thought or complained about it. She did not care. Also I know she was not materialistic at all, until she came to the USA, where "they" showed her how you must "live". During the divorce there was no courts or trials, although there was a good potential to get something from me. She probably just had not get "smart" enough yet. But I think she still had some good moral values she was brought up with in her home country.
So of course women have similar demands and potentials(I mean in a negative sense), but they are still very different depending where they are from and where they live.
What makes women Smile and Part their legs without knowing you very well has many factors.
Gunz and a few other on this forum as much as some may HATE it just being "Black" is good enough for many women and yes its a sexual fanstay for the most part, but c'mon if you can make any woman's sexual fanstay come true and it turns out better than they thought it would be even if they have a wild imagination, if everything else is in line, she's marriage material or start buggin you about marriage...
Larisa this woman I met in Kiev, okay she's not a model or anything like that, but your basic, average early 30's FSU woman that wanted to have a child so BAD that she "allowed" a long time male friend to get drunk and impregnat here... She's a teacher of English in a local grade school. Ummm, after I banged here and came back to the US, I would talk to her online and within two sentences was wondering WHEN I was coming back, showing up naked on the web cam, all kinds of stuff...
Never came the subject of where I worked, how much I was making none of that. Assumsion says that if I could afford to fly from the US to Europe, let alone Eastern Europe to a country many Americans have not idea where it is, then its safe to say I earn enough money or was "given" enough money....
This is not good enough for most AW and like Rock said, there good ones left but how long do you wanna fool around with that??? I'm already 38 as of last Sunday, the time for playing around is finished....
My brotha, I would much rather deal with higher taxes, higher base wages, free education for myself, my children and my future wife and ultra low cost health care.
Unlike refugees which I am sure you have a problem with, I wouldn't move to another country without having my employment situation worked out before hand.
DJ FourMoney :
Then travel, if this is Your dream. I mean, its really no problem to take a around 26 - 30 yo nice blond girl in this country, with Your age. Each girl have different fantasies. Some like a black man like You, other are more into latino's, asians and even white :-) Race is not the big issue, it was 25 years ago. They are easy-going, some would say extremely easy. One night stand, the first night You meet, is socially accepted in this age group. The older they are - the more accepted it is. And this can lead to friendship and more.
Be aware of the married girls. They are coming out in bar and disco's Friday and Saturday nights. Gangs. They are easy-easy-going, one (half) night stand material. Forget about p**syhunting. You are the chased ...
Remember, this is the mongering the opposite way. They (the girls) have big experience as sex-tourists from numerous sex-travels to warmer destinations like Greece, Tunis, Italy and Spain. Hunting down and fucking latino brothers. Afterwards, when they get home, showing the pictures to their friends and boast the number of the screw. You dont believe in me. Ask any divorced and left Scandinavian man :-)
I do not know the exact rules for the work immigrants from the US, but dont think its a problem. Americans are popular in this country, and have been for ages, even G.W.B. Your great advantage is also the language. Everybody here speak english, children start learning from 7-8 years old. We are "importing" a very large number of workers from former EE for all kinds of work. Also from Germany, Sweden and other EU states. Unemployment is close to not existing, there is a shortage of workers in most occupations. From architects to housepainters. Check this out with the embassy.
Best of luck to You,
Balluba
DJ FourMoney
08-14-08, 06:43
DJ FourMoney :
Then travel, if this is Your dream. I mean, its really no problem to take a around 26 - 30 yo nice blond girl in this country, with Your age. Each girl have different fantasies. Some like a black man like You, other are more into latino's, asians and even white :-) Race is not the big issue, it was 25 years ago. They are easy-going, some would say extremely easy. One night stand, the first night You meet, is socially accepted in this age group. The older they are - the more accepted it is. And this can lead to friendship and more.
Be aware of the married girls. They are coming out in bar and disco's Friday and Saturday nights. Gangs. They are easy-easy-going, one (half) night stand material. Forget about p**syhunting. You are the chased ...
Remember, this is the mongering the opposite way. They (the girls) have big experience as sex-tourists from numerous sex-travels to warmer destinations like Greece, Tunis, Italy and Spain. Hunting down and fucking latino brothers. Afterwards, when they get home, showing the pictures to their friends and boast the number of the screw. You dont believe in me. Ask any divorced and left Scandinavian man :-)
I do not know the exact rules for the work immigrants from the US, but dont think its a problem. Americans are popular in this country, and have been for ages, even G.W.B. Your great advantage is also the language. Everybody here speak english, children start learning from 7-8 years old. We are "importing" a very large number of workers from former EE for all kinds of work. Also from Germany, Sweden and other EU states. Unemployment is close to not existing, there is a shortage of workers in most occupations. From architects to house painters. Check this out with the embassy.
Best of luck to You,
Balluba
No hard feelins Balluba!
We are all men, we need to help and defend each other because we culturally are "under fire" less so from your side of the Atlantic, but none the less....
I like Scandinavia, 14 hours of darkness in the winter doesn't sound that appealing but I can deal with the rest of it. Instead of wondering where my tax money goes (funding wars, corp welfare, etc) its going right back to the people as an investment...
Thanks for the tip(s).
I moved around too much last time to make any impact with "chance meetings". I was in Bergen, Oslo & Stockholm... for about 12 days total, not enough time to get comfortable let alone setup an attack plan of being "at the right place at the right time".
What makes women Smile and Part their legs without knowing you very well has many factors.
Gunz and a few other on this forum as much as some may HATE it just being "Black" is good enough for many women and yes its a sexual fanstay for the most part, but c'mon if you can make any woman's sexual fanstay come true and it turns out better than they thought it would be even if they have a wild imagination, if everything else is in line, she's marriage material or start buggin you about marriage....
I think that whole fascination with Black Men is waning. Especially in Dubai. Due to explosion of global travel and global incomes Black guys have found themselves all over the world. People are not impressed and in places like Thailand I have actually experienced outright hate. Hell in Manila where I live I don’t see many Black guys and if any they are mostly Africans but in may I took a trip down to Cebu now there it was a different story. In PI most of the girls would rather not bother with a Black person and tend to look down on them. I still find it easier to get dates here rather its ST or LT though then in the west.
Tarius Shinobi
08-15-08, 05:58
When you judge the book by the cover.
Or judge a brother by his color.
You disregard the game of the lover.
No matter where a brother goes in the globe.
A woman will be willing to remove her robe.
Some women may be racist & that's kool.
But never the less, don't be no fool.
Because if you have money.
Women will give you the honey.
No matter where you go.
And that's what makes the game funny.
DJ FourMoney
08-15-08, 07:43
I think that whole fascination with Black Men is waning. Especially in Dubai. Due to explosion of global travel and global incomes Black guys have found themselves all over the world. People are not impressed and in places like Thailand I have actually experienced outright hate. Hell in Manila where I live I don’t see many Black guys and if any they are mostly Africans but in may I took a trip down to Cebu now there it was a different story. In PI most of the girls would rather not bother with a Black person and tend to look down on them. I still find it easier to get dates here rather its ST or LT though then in the west.
I'm not quite sure how to reply to this and in light of Brian's recent PM to you, I'll just say if European women like me, its no different than Columbian or Asian women liking you....
I'm not quite sure how to reply to this and in light of Brian's recent PM to you, I'll just say if European women like me, its no different than Columbian or Asian women liking you....
Yes the PM was a foul doctrine. DJ brother to brother what I am trying to do is dispel this myth that Blacks are loved overseas. It just isn’t the case. From Tokyo to Manila there is a small sect of the local population that love Black men and they are fascinated by our so called “culture” but these select few are usually on the lower tier of their own societies.
I remember in the Japan the Japanese girls that would run behind black guys most of them looked like they had a million miles on them. Yeah sure they would give you some play but did you come to the orient to fuck that? I had one co-worker who fucked one these girls and he was so proud of his “achievement.”
It’s the same in other parts I see guys claiming the women love this or that they have no real knowledge of the way these people think or the way their respective society thinks.
It's unfortunate the U.S media projects Black American men as irresponsible parents, criminals, jobless etc. This shit is not made up but TRUE for the most part. It's all you see and hear on the local U.S. T.V. news channels. I hear the same thing from some Asian AMP ladies with a few refusing to see Black men. This is really unfortunate because it's a few bad eggs making the rest of us look bad. It's funny I seem to have more problems dating black American women (the most fucked up women IMHO) than I've ever had dating women of other races.
Yes the PM was a foul doctrine. DJ brother to brother what I am trying to do is dispel this myth that Blacks are loved overseas. It just isn’t the case. From Tokyo to Manila there is a small sect of the local population that love Black men and they are fascinated by our so called “culture” but these select few are usually on the lower tier of their own societies.
I remember in the Japan the Japanese girls that would run behind black guys most of them looked like they had a million miles on them. Yeah sure they would give you some play but did you come to the orient to fuck that? I had one co-worker who fucked one these girls and he was so proud of his “achievement.”
It’s the same in other parts I see guys claiming the women love this or that they have no real knowledge of the way these people think or the way their respective society thinks.
Tarius Shinobi
08-15-08, 22:54
It's unfortunate the U.S media projects Black American men as irresponsible parents, criminals, jobless etc. This shit is not made up but TRUE for the most part. It's all you see and hear on the local U.S. T.V. news channels. I hear the same thing from some Asian AMP ladies with a few refusing to see Black men. This is really unfortunate because it's a few bad eggs making the rest of us look bad. It's funny I seem to have more problems dating black American women (the most fucked up women IMHO) than I've ever had dating women of other races.Hey Astor Bryan, that's a true fact! Black American women are horrible!
All AW are un-desirable, but the "Sista's" take the cake.
Example: The tv show called "Bridezilla's", the black american women on that show act worse than the white women when it comes to their weddings.
I feel sorry for those grooms to be! But then again, why should I, they made their bed, so they can lay in it! Pew.
AB: you have that right about black American women. As a group, I've never met so many that had diagnosable mental disorders based on their alarmingly high levels of anger, entitlement, delusions, histrionics, and paranoia. Just picture your average AW ratcheted up to high drama-queen level.
get ready for the back lash my friend.. thems people are very sensitive especially rastman and dj ha ha ha they think all women love black men. ha ha ha what a joke!!! in russia and ukraine they are not welcome at all. and in russia the russians call them niggers. dj went to ukraine and found out the red carpet wasnt laid out for him. besides what white woman in there right mind would want a black man.. watch the movie waiting to exhale. spike lee directed it.. the sistas are all together sitting down talking about the brothers ha ha ha it was hilarious but true... most black men in america are either in jail, dont work selling drugs or trying to be pimps or collecting welfare. now the sucsseful brothers that are doctors lawyers actors singers athletes then they want the forbidden fruit the prize "white woman" not much out there for the ordinary sissta. looking at the stats in america bill cosby in a speech said most cases of aids in america are blacks and they are only 15% of the population in the usa.. they are also close to 70% population in the prisons in the usa.. thank god i wasnt born black. i persoally like black people from africa but not blacks born in america,they think the world owes them a living and all white women want them. they make me sick. yeah dj lives with his mom and is unemployed yeah hes a catch all right. i can see the ee women wanting his broke black ass. his father died and left him some money he went to europe for a couple of weeks. at least he is honest i give him credit, he is such a loser. ha ha ha ha
this is the pm i received that is in question between me and dj. i reported it to jackson and he blew it/me off so i feel this shit needs be addressed. i am cracking my knuckles here.
get ready for the back lash my friend.. thems people are very sensitive especially rastman and dj ha ha ha they think all women love black men. ha ha ha what a joke!!! in russia and ukraine they are not welcome at all. and in russia the russians call them niggers. dj went to ukraine and found out the red carpet wasn’t laid out for him
in russia and ukraine blacks are not welcome at all? have you spoken with every russian and ukrainian about this? perhaps you had a sit down with the ukrainian government and they told you blacks were not welcome. or perhaps it’s your personal prejudice and the dogmatic company you keep that led you to such a sophomoric conclusion. so what if a few russians or ukrainians call blacks “niggers” some rappers/various black people called whites crackers and ofays it’s all rather silly when you think about it. what does it all mean in the end? people try to denigrate people all the time by color/nationality etc. the only fucking color i see now is people who have money and the people who don’t. dj found the carpet was not laid out for him? white mongers go to mongering destinations all the time and get murdered or played by the local women. do these events have anything to do with them being white or just being in the wrong place at the wrong time?
besides what white woman in there right mind would want a black man.. watch the movie waiting to exhale. spike lee directed it.. the sistas are all together sitting down talking about the brothers ha ha ha it was hilarious but true... most black men in america are either in jail, dont work selling drugs or trying to be pimps or collecting welfare.
what white women in her right mind would want a black man? those entire gold digging ass white women chasing behind the black basketball players and actors. there are also a lot of brothers who are high on the food chain lawyers doctors and such who have married white. i also know average joe blows who married white and are working their ass trying to be a good father and husband. that was their personal choice. as for the guys in jail i mean the numbers don’t fucking lie. but for everyone black selling drugs there are blacks getting up in the freezing cold going to work every morning where i am from. i grew up in a prominent american slum with fucking nothing. now i walk/ride around dubai/tokyo with thousands of dollars in diamonds on (all paid for by the us government) do i fit your fucking stereotype. do you know what is required to be a pimp? do you know what is required to collect welfare? whites outnumbered blacks on welfare at its height. most pimps or “daddies” in thailand and pi are caucasians from europe and american. some black’s guys sell drugs because they refuse to work for $5.00 dollars an hour. institutionalized racism, dejected schooling, dismal neighborhoods dejected families: a recipe for the american black gangster. as for the prison population white guy molest a kid get out after one year. black guy sales some cocaine to another adult gets five years. who is the bigger villain? who is the perpetrator in these various crimes most of the time?
now the sucsseful brothers that are doctors lawyers actors singers athletes then they want the forbidden fruit the prize "white woman" not much out there for the ordinary sissta.
that is their choice who they decide to be their mate. white women are no damn prize and neither are black people or any damn race of people on this planet. the prize is having a good fucking life whether that’s with someone or by your lonely. you dig? the forbidden fruit? it seems to be that black men are the forbidden fruit. every women i have fucked of another race always told me about the million questions was asked because her family and friends were curious what’s it like to fuck a black man.
looking at the stats in america bill cosby in a speech said most cases of aids in america are blacks and they are only 15% of the population in the usa... they are also close to 70% population in the prisons in the usa.. thank god i wasnt born black.
ok maybe this is true but aids is human disease not a fucking black disease. aids is high in china, thailand, ukraine, india are black people causing the epidemics there too? american blacks do make up the majority of the prison population. you know the poor of any country usually does that. i am an atheist so thank natural selection that you are not black the black race could not stand another reprobate like you!
i persoally like black people from africa but not blacks born in america, they think the world owes them a living and all white women want them. they make me sick.
blacks from africa have perpetrated some of humanities most hideous crimes, and the true crime they have done it to one another because of european colonism. see rwandan massacre. the belgians following simple divide and conquer procedures told one group they were better then the other. creating hate and discord amongst the masses. growing up most black guys didn’t desire white women brian. if you brought white women to my old neighborhood most of the local people would laugh at you. i even explained to my asian ole lady of today to prepare her for it. most guys say white women don’t have nice bodies brian. sir mix a lot song says it all. if black americans make you sick go see a doctor.
yeah dj lives with his mom and is unemployed yeah hes a catch all right. i can see the ee women wanting his broke black ass. his father died and left him some money he went to europe for a couple of weeks. at least he is honest i give him credit, he is such a loser. ha ha ha ha
dj lives with his mom? so fucking what. everyone was not born with a silver spoon and if people could do better they would. you think the drug dealer likes being drug dealer you think the ***** likes being a *****? maybe to some women an honest man overrides one that is swimming in that green paper we worship.
his broke black ass? there are broke ass people all over the fucking world perhaps you need to take a trip to the third world expand your horizons. i have seen a lot of broke ass white people too.
he went to europe and experienced the world that’s more then what a lot of people do. you are the loser for even writing that racist ass shit get the fuck out of here. guys like you really make me feel bad for prostitutes when they have subject their priceless bodies to motherfuckers like you.
In Russia and Ukraine they are not welcome at all. And in Russia the Russians call them niggers.
Sometimes you may get such impression, especially from the news, but only some racist people there would really hate blacks, as well as they would hate mostly everybody who is not complete Russian. I believe most Russians have no problems with blacks. They may make fun of them or something, but they would not truly hate them.
'Niggers" in those countries is not the same as 'Niggers" in USA. It means the same as 'Blacks'. People there would call a black person "Negr", but there is nothing offensive in that. Just the same as you would call somebody white or Asian, or whatever. It is in USA where too many normal things are twisted and perverted.
There always have been a number of blacks who live(study) in Moscow - from Africa and Cuba. Many of them married Russian women. Also many of them moved to Africa. At the same time some Russian men who worked in Africa married African women.
One time I was at a black party in the USA. I felt there was a lot of racism from black women. I promised myself I would never go there again.
On the other hand some time ago I dated a black girl. I was surprised how superior she was to white AW in understanding what's going on, she was much more feminine and behaving normally, nothing bitchy at all, she was showing me respect, she was sincere, I could easily talk to her about anything. Unfortunately because of economical problems she had to move to another state to her family. I have not met anybody similar to her either white or black in the USA.
I have noticed there are at least two types of black American women, one which is opened to everything(or many things). And the other one which is racist and weird(check out their nasty long nails), I guess the one people were talking here about.
Tarius Shinobi
08-16-08, 22:46
That movie was directed by Academy Award winner Forest Whitaker, not Spike Lee!
Hey Astor Bryan, that's a true fact! Black American women are horrible!
All AW are un-desirable, but the "Sista's" take the cake.
Example: The tv show called "Bridezilla's", the black american women on that show act worse than the white women when it comes to their weddings.
I feel sorry for those grooms to be! But then again, why should I, they made their bed, so they can lay in it! Pew.
I watch that show from time to time. Those women are UNBELIEVEABLE!!!!
I do not see a difference between the Black and White women, they are both equally insane! I always wonder how the guys can decide to marry such women when they are seeing what life will be like with them. Even the bride's own relatives get fed up and sometimes refuse to attend the wedding.
I remember one episode in which a Black bride was upset with her Black female wedding planner. The two of them were both obese and spent the show arguing back and forth about who said what to whom, who was supposed to do what, who was more to blame, etc. The new reality TV!!!
AB: you have that right about black American women. As a group, I've never met so many that had diagnosable mental disorders based on their alarmingly high levels of anger, entitlement, delusions, histrionics, and paranoia. Just picture your average AW ratcheted up to high drama-queen level.
While I have met exactly this type of Black woman, I have also met some VERY nice Black women.
Before I started to monger abroad, I got involved in some post-Million Man March activities. I and some other Black men formed a non-profit that helped Black owned businesses in the city I was living in at that time. It was sort of like a Black Chamber of Commerce. Some of the other men knew women business owners and I became acquainted with some and their employees.
One woman owned a restaurant that specialized in Muslim food. One guy was friends with her and good friends with one of the waitresses. One evening we all went to dinner there and I met these ladies. I was shocked at how pleasant, soft-spoken, and good-natured these ladies were!!! They were polar opposites of the usual stereo-typical of the American Black woman. I suspected at the time that the main reason was that they were Muslim (members of the Nation of Islam) and the focus on work, self-sufficiency, contribution to community, and the rejection of crass materialism kept their heads on straight.
Other NoI ladies that I met at other times also made very good impressions on me. I think that if a man leans that way religiously and politically, he will find a good wife in that group.
This is the PM I received that is in question between me and DJ. I reported it to Jackson and he blew it/me off so I feel this shit needs be addressed. I am cracking my knuckles here.
I received a few PM's from this same character a year ago. I also complained about him to no avail. He is on my 'ignore' list. I suggest everyone do the same. It will be hard for him to be inflammatory when no one is receiving his messages.
I received a few PM's from this same character a year ago. I also complained about him to no avail. He is on my 'ignore' list. I suggest everyone do the same. It will be hard for him to be inflammatory when no one is receiving his messages.
Ditto...I too received PM's from this fellow and immediately placed him on my ignore list.
...sort of like a Back Chamber of Commerce...were polar opposites of the usual stereo-typical of the American Black woman. I suspected ...the main reason was that they were Muslim (members of the Nation of Islam) and the focus on work, self-sufficiency, contribution to community, and the rejection of crass materialism kept their heads on straight...
I hope you meant Black not Back. Or perhaps it's true you guys really love huge behinds!
Interesting observations. But Black Americans are very churchy. So you think the Black Christian churches don't inspire such higher values?
but only some racist people there would really hate blacks, as well as they would hate mostly everybody who is not complete Russian. I believe most Russians have no problems with blacks. .
This is simply not true. Russians are some of the most racist people on the planet. Trust me, I grew up in the former USSR, I speak Russian fluently, I can read Russian sites, and I know what's what.
Not a week passes without something in the press about skinheads and other scum attacking blacks, Central Asians, Vietnamese, etc.
I am not a Bush fan at all, and this is not a US/Russia comparison, but Russia today is truly a sick place. The Government certainly has brainwashed the people to the point of paranoia. Everybody is out to get Mother Russia! Massive conspiracy everywhere!
This is not in defense of AWs. This is simply setting the record straight.
I hope you meant Black not Back. Or perhaps it's true you guys really love huge behinds!
I did. And that is true anyway! LOL!
Interesting observations. But Black Americans are very churchy. So you think the Black Christian churches don't inspire such higher values?
That is correct. I am not into organized religion. I have found that too many individuals claiming to be religious manipulate religion and religious institutions for personal gain, rather than advance the values and tenets espoused by the religion in question.
I gather from what I have read, specifically from the autobiography of Malcolm X, that many Black Americans turned to Islam and the Nation, due to the failings and loss of faith and trust in Black Christianity. To me, the single most significant issue seemed to center on racism in the US.
My impression from the NoI is that it supports a high degree of segregation from Whites as the best way to deal with White racism. Hence the strong emphasis on creating your own opportunities and jobs through business ownership, taking control of education (NoI has its own accredited high school in Arizona and was/is developing its own small university.), and supporting each other through patronization of Black owned businesses and marrying each other.
While my impression from Blacks who are mostly church-goers is that integration with Whites is the best way to educate Whites and show them that Black Americans are regular people who do not deserve the bad treatment they often get from Whites. The philosophy being that it is hard to be racist against your friends and neighbors.
How this dfference in focus can lead to different attitudes and behaviors towards men I suspect is the following. The NoI strategy forces Black men and Black women to see each other as allies in the advancement and deliverance of the Black race. So they treat each other well - within the structure of Islam - because that other person is to whom they will turn to for help if and when help is ever needed. The other strategy forces Blacks to see Whites as allies in the advancement and deliverance of the Black race. This can lead to the perverse result that fellow Blacks will be valued less than Whites in the Struggle. If a Black woman grows up in this environment, constantly seeing Black men in prison and rap videos and rarely in schools or in leadership positions, she will be very unlikely to view a Black man as a needed ally. She doesn't even view the Black man as needed in her own family: in 2007 almost 80% of Black children were living in households headed by a single mother or single grandmother.
This is simply not true. Russians are some of the most racist people on the planet. Trust me, I grew up in the former USSR, I speak Russian fluently, I can read Russian sites, and I know what's what.
Not a week passes without something in the press about skinheads and other scum attacking blacks, Central Asians, Vietnamese, etc.
I am not a Bush fan at all, and this is not a US/Russia comparison, but Russia today is truly a sick place. The Government certainly has brainwashed the people to the point of paranoia. Everybody is out to get Mother Russia! Massive conspiracy everywhere!
This is not in defense of AWs. This is simply setting the record straight.
Tbird, I still disagree. Although what you say is partially true. But I have many friends in Russia. I never ever have heard anything from them like they hate anybody. Of course there are assholes, skinheads, etc.. Russia is "a sick place" only because of a few individuals.
I believe Russian is much better than it looks outside(like from news)
This is simply not true. Russians are some of the most racist people on the planet. Trust me, I grew up in the former USSR, I speak Russian fluently, I can read Russian sites, and I know what's what.
Not a week passes without something in the press about skinheads and other scum attacking blacks, Central Asians, Vietnamese, etc.
I am not a Bush fan at all, and this is not a US/Russia comparison, but Russia today is truly a sick place. The Government certainly has brainwashed the people to the point of paranoia. Everybody is out to get Mother Russia! Massive conspiracy everywhere!
This is not in defense of AWs. This is simply setting the record straight.
I completely agree with you. Russians are very racist, ruthless and very corrupt. Russia is not a country I ever plan to visit.
I am here watching CNN and the topic is the John Edwards sex scandal. I just can't believe the extensive coverage this story is getting! It is as if there is nothing else going on in the country or the world. The Olympics are taking place for Pete's sake!! Russia invaded a country!!! Our economy is possibly headed for an extended deep recession!!! We are electing a president in 10 weeks, one candidate for which is a Black man, which is unprecedented in US history!!! Why is the country SO stuck on an adult man having consensual sex with an adult woman??? What does this say about the priorities of the US media and the Americans who feed it???
I am NEVER going to enter public life in ANY manner whatsoever!! I want my PRIVATE life to REMAIN PRIVATE!!!!!
Member #4214
08-17-08, 19:47
How insightful, that you could reach such concrete, definitive and sweeping conclusions about a group encompassing millions of individuals. Without ever visiting the place.
I just had a pretty concrete, definitive vision of you living in the remnants of a clapboard outhouse somewhere deep in the backwoods of W. Virginia. Dude, I never plan to visit!
I completely agree with you. Russians are very racist, ruthless and very corrupt. Russia is not a country I ever plan to visit.
...and can make whatever travel plans you deem necessary.
As someone who knows the country, and who speaks the language fluently, I can tell you one more time, Russia is overall a racist and xenophobic place. It is not just a group of sick individuals. It is the overall mindset of that society.
A lot of it is Government-inspired. Anti-US and anti-Western propaganda is rampant, and encouraged. This way there is always a convenient external enemy to blame for everything.
Once again, this has nothing to do with the topic of AWs.
I completely agree with you. Russians are very racist, ruthless and very corrupt. Russia is not a country I ever plan to visit.
Yeah, that's really insightful;) If that's the case then why do so many western dudes go to this "racist, ruthless and corrupt" country for their last chance in their life to score and possibly find a beautiful nice wife - actually an immediate product of those racist and ruthless people? Are they all idiots? Or they are trying to make the beautiful America "racist, ruthless and corrupt" too by importing such bad people?
why don't they stay in the "non racist, "free", "not corrupt" America with their "beautiful" 200lbs honey(in case they are lucky to get it) and buying tons of viagra?
BTW I know one American guy who has lost any hope to score! He is about 60 y.o. now. His brain has been so much fucked up in the USA, that he did not even believe that he could score in Prague... and he did not! He actually wanted it, but did not believe that any woman would do it with him even for money.
Yeah, that's really insightful;) If that's the case then why do so many western dudes go to this "racist, ruthless and corrupt" country for their last chance in their life to score and possibly find a beautiful nice wife - actually an immediate product of those racist and ruthless people? Are they all idiots?
How many of these " western dudes" are of non-European decent? We are not discussing which women are better, we started talking about racism and xenophobia which permeate all parts of Russian society - and now with the little stupid war in Georgia will only get worse.
Trust me, women who marry white foreigners, and women who marry blacks or Asians are viewed VERY differently. And that is really the issue we are talking about here, not whose women are the fattest.
Bango Cheito
08-18-08, 08:23
The great debate between whether people are the same all over and if not, how much culture affects them. Difficult to tell.
For example, some say Latin American women change the INSTANT they get across the border. I think that they get slowly inculcurated over time, but very much arrive carrying their culture with them. To me that would indicate that culture is more of a deciding factor, because they would otherwise change the moment their environment changed. I'm leaving out cases where a gold-digger simply shows her true colors, which is something else entirely IMO.
All my time in NYC I never had a problem hooking up with Latin girls of all stripes, Dominicans, Puerto Ricans, Colombians, what have you. Puerto Ricans of course are citizens so there's no immigration element to it there, not to mention most of my time in NY I was NOT an American citizen. Some say this is next to impossible for a white guy, but either I'm a huge exception to the rule or it's just simply fucking BS.
OTOH I think particularly people on this forum, but also Americans in general in particular, really have a hard time DEEPLY understanding other cultures and often misread stuff BADLY, and then jump to totally erroneous conculsions based on their own ignorance and ethnocentrism. This is where a lot of the "Latin/Asian/EE women are more feminine/less feminist/whatever" crap comes from IMO.
How many of these " western dudes" are of non-European decent? We are not discussing which women are better, we started talking about racism and xenophobia which permeate all parts of Russian society - and now with the little stupid war in Georgia will only get worse.
Trust me, women who marry white foreigners, and women who marry blacks or Asians are viewed VERY differently. And that is really the issue we are talking about here, not whose women are the fattest.
I know a bunch of Russian women(including my mom) who married guys from Soviet Asian countries. Nobody views them differently. I am talking about normal educated people. If you are talking about some stupid Russians, then you are right. But stupid people are everywhere.
I know at least one black man who happily married a Ukrainian woman and have several kids with her. He also dated several other Russian & Ukrainian girls before that. And earlier he was screwed by an AW.
It's off topic, but since you mentioned the "little stupid war in Georgia", check out the truth, even Fox News could not stick to it's bullshit propaganda this time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8XI2Chc6uQ
The Jimi Hendrix song comes to mind..."American Woman"
It's off topic, but since you mentioned the "little stupid war in Georgia", check out the truth, even Fox News could not stick to it's bullshit propaganda this time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8XI2Chc6uQ
Goga, this is not the Holy grail. This is an interview with a girl of Ossetian origin living/visiting the US. It has been all over Youtube for a while.
I think this would better be suited for a political forum, not here.
Based on your comment, I am assuming you are pro-Russian on this issue. Trust me, you do not want me to post what I think about Russia and its leaders on this forum.
The Jimi Hendrix song comes to mind..."American Woman"
The sad part is this little c....t WILL find some sex-starved sap willing to put up with her BS. Eventually, she will stop putting out, but will continue spending his money.
Tarius Shinobi
08-19-08, 05:08
"The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen", starring the sexy Australian Peta Wilson as a Vampire widow. Yeah baby, bite my neck, make me write bad chex!
I know a bunch of Russian women(including my mom) who married guys from Soviet Asian countries. Nobody views them differently. I am talking about normal educated people. If you are talking about some stupid Russians, then you are right. But stupid people are everywhere.
Which is that the majority of the population in Russia have been swept up in xenophobic hysteria. Not your Mom, obviously. But in today's Russia that is an exception, rather than the rule.
I will not post more on this issue, since the vast majority of forum members cannot read Russian, and therefore will not be able to evaluate what I can show as proof.
As someone who has been to Russia, speaks the language, and understands the culture, I put that country on the list of places I do not care to visit.
If nothing else, I am not paying Mr.Putin any visa fees for the privilege. :-)
The sad part is this little c....t WILL find some sex-starved sap willing to put up with her BS. Eventually, she will stop putting out, but will continue spending his money.
Clearly, that article is tongue-in-cheek. Let's take it in the mocking, sarcastic tone in which it was it was written.
The Jimi Hendrix song comes to mind..."American Woman"
Wasn't the hit 'American Woman' performed by the Canadian band 'The Guess Who'?
I have many Hendrix records and don't remember any with a song titled 'American Woman'. What LP is it on?
Clearly, that article is tongue-in-cheek. Let's take it in the mocking, sarcastic tone in which it was it was written.
Indeed, but it captures the mindset of the modern AW very well!
Wasn't the hit 'American Woman' performed by the Canadian band 'The Guess Who'?
I have many Hendrix records and don't remember any with a song titled 'American Woman'. What LP is it on?
It was indeed The Guess Who.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guess_Who
Gotta have your hands on some serious chronic to confuse Jimi Hendrix with the Guess Fucking Who.
The Jimi Hendrix song comes to mind..."American Woman"There is a popular remake by Lenny Kravis I bet that is who he is referring to. It is played in "Hendrix" guitar style.
Ok my spelling sucks LOL http: //en. Wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenny_Cravitz This is what he was referring to. His cover version of The Guess Who's hit "American Woman" won him another Grammy at the Grammy Awards of 2000 and helped The Guess Who's song reach a new audience. Kravitz's version of the song originally came from the soundtrack of Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me and was added to 5 as a bonus track in 1999.
Naked Gunz
08-20-08, 06:18
I completely agree with you. Russians are very racist, ruthless and very corrupt. Russia is not a country I ever plan to visit. You mean all those bitches contacting me don't really want to fuck me?
Actually, I envision some vodka swilling Communist sending me love_mail via the internet is behind all the fine azz Russian women mail I keep getting. Phuck U USSR.
I wanted to visit Moscow, until they showed their true (new)colors. My boss looked into Putins eyes and found true love. GOP idiot.
We have enuff shyt with OBL, now the Communists are back.
O'DRAMA would win by a landslide if he were not Black. RACISM is everywhere-planet wide. Thats whats real.
Ok my spelling sucks LOL http: //en. Wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenny_Cravitz This is what he was referring to. His cover version of The Guess Who's hit "American Woman" won him another Grammy at the Grammy Awards of 2000 and helped The Guess Who's song reach a new audience. Kravitz's version of the song originally came from the soundtrack of Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me and was added to 5 as a bonus track in 1999.Ooops, posters are all right. I always thought Jimi did it, but I probably just heard him doing a cover of it.
ooops, posters are all right. i always thought jimi did it, but i probably just heard him doing a cover of it.while we are on the topic of songs, anyone catch the lyrics to "i kissed a girl?"
goes like this... "us girls we are so magical soft skin, red lips, so kissable hard to resist so touchable too good to deny it."
yeah i know, she missed the part about how they [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) perfume and [CodeWord116] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116) butterflys, but thats more than enough to get a subliminal message across to young girls listening, along with the title content. truth is, she's just putting it out on full blast how the mindset of aw's work. if you didn't know, knew, or had a clue, now its official.
For bringing home the gold in soccer....
Gold in beach volleyball and Silver in softball.
Jelly Donut
08-24-08, 00:39
Gold in the Women's Heavy Eights -
Just sandwich me in the middle of those Amazons. :)
DJ FourMoney
08-25-08, 09:12
Gold in beach volleyball and Silver in softball.
How on God's Green Earth did we loose a Women's Softball game??????
Volleyball I would expect, Italy pushed them hard but they won anyway.
We are loosing are grip in track however, but overall we did pretty well this time.
I'm a proud American, not Proud To Be American, BIG DIFFERENCE....
How on God's Green Earth did we loose a Women's Softball game?
Volleyball I would expect, Italy pushed them hard but they won anyway.
We are loosing are grip in track however, but overall we did pretty well this time.
I'm a proud American, not Proud To Be American, BIG DIFFERENCE.... The great thing about being an American(USA) is if you are not PROUD to be one , you can leave cause there is a line of people to take your place. Some countries you do not have the option.
CBGBConnisur
08-25-08, 17:25
Kudos to the big man, Phelps, 8 medals, he won more medals than some countries did.
Nothing wrong with being proud to be an American, although I wonder about proud Canadians, and frankly I actually see more of them waving their maple leaves.
Tarius Shinobi
08-26-08, 01:10
Vince Vaughn got played by a british chick in this flick.
Aargh!
Fellow members. Here is something to send chills down your spines.
For other Canuk members,more confirmation of what we already know.
For Uk members,a taste of things to come.
Check out www.nationalpost.com. Go to the archives and the paper of
Wed. Aug 13,2008
About 1/3 to 1/2 way down in the Issues and Ideas section there are 2
articles . "Hear the Other Side" by Karen Selick and "The New Justice"
by Barbara Kay.
Has this crap found it's way to the US or other western countries?
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The great thing about being an American(USA) is if you are not PROUD to be one , you can leave cause there is a line of people to take your place. Some countries you do not have the option.
There is no excuse for us to loose in sports like baseball, softball, basketball, and track and field. The athletes that loose in "Americanish" sports in the Games are a disgrace to the country.
There is no excuse for us to loose in sports like baseball, softball, basketball, and track and field. The athletes that loose in "Americanish" sports in the Games are a disgrace to the country.
I used to be a fan of American (USA) athletes, both women and men. But not any more.
It is not the same now as before, I think they have changed, in so many ways.
You mean all those bitches contacting me don't really want to fuck me?
Actually, I envision some vodka swilling Communist sending me love_mail via the internet is behind all the fine azz Russian women mail I keep getting. Phuck U USSR.
I wanted to visit Moscow, until they showed their true (new)colors. My boss looked into Putins eyes and found true love. GOP idiot.
We have enuff shyt with OBL, now the Communists are back.
O'DRAMA would win by a landslide if he were not Black. RACISM is everywhere-planet wide. Thats whats real.
Racism does exist but depending on one's socio-economic status and geographical location it can be almost totally mitigated today--especially in progressive places in the West. The delineation of racism and classism is becoming increasingly difficult for me to identify. I don't think that America has the race problem that some blacks on this board do. I also think it's generational. But, yeah, the old South is fucked up.
The reason why Obama isn't running away with the election--although he is under polling due to the large numbers of youth and inactive voters that will turn out for him--is that America does not like Ivy League eggheads as their CINC. Bush, who is the scion of wealth and privilege ran away from Yale, Andover, and HBS and recast himself as an average bloke from Texas. Kerry, the Francophile windsurfer was tossed under the bus even though we were up shit creek with out a paddle in Iraq and in the mist of a recession. Gore, the longwinded windbag was also rejected. Bill, who was an egghead, also has the ability to connect with the Bubbas in the world and puts on a good "i feel your pain" shuck and jive. Carter, Dukakis, Mondale all lost because they were more Harvard than Harley. You can be rich and privileged as a pol but it's not healthy to act like it. Fullstop.
Obama is very eggeheadish--opposed to a man's man like Colin Powell--is very liberal, and is black. The American electorate could swallow one or two of the aforementioned but the troika will leave a big lump in the throat. Add to that Obama's inexperience--he has the thinnest resume that I can think of a major candidate--and I can think of many reasons not to embrace him with open arms. However, America will say what the fuck and reluctantly vote for him because they can't afford another 4 years of Bush.
There are many reasons for and against Obama and race is not the only reason why America is skeptical of this man.
I told DJ and a few other brothers about how racist, very stereotypical, and very very stupid most EE and Russians are but they never seemed to want to hear what I had to say; i.e, EE is not a pussy nirvana for people of color. I am someone who works in that part of the world, lived in that part of the world, and whose maternal lineage hails from that part of the world so I know what I am talking about. I am a young black guy that worked (now a freelancer) for the Emerging Markets group of a multinational consulting firm and interacted with everyone from sr. level govt officials to poor students in some former eastern bloc countries. My understanding of the dynamics of these issues are more complete than anyone on this board and I got real frustrated when some ISG dude who had never been to Poland was writing about how Polish chicks just love all brothas when I had gotten off the plane from Krakow a few months prior. I guess some people just don't wanna hear what they don't wanna here.
Yes I screwed half of Moldova and a 5th of Romania and Bulgaria but there were many days when I told my Managing Director to get me the fuck off the projects that I working on because of the racism and disrespect I encountered from some ignorant Slavic imbed who couldn't even figure out an Excel spreadsheet. I guess if one brotha goes to Bucharest for a week, stays at the JW, hangs out in Planters, and picks up on poor student girls or adventurous artsy fartsies then he will think that Romanian girls are crazy for blacks...just like if someone thinks that all actors in LA are rich and famous.
The bottom is line is that being black puts you at more of a disadvantage then it does back home with chicks in EE but that if you are good looking, have money, and are interesting you can still score a shipload of hot babes.
And yes, Russia is a fucked up, violent, and brainwashed place full of small minded, crude, and myopic people. But the girls there will suck your dick for as long as it takes you to cum. I love Russian chicks.
i just got back from 10 days in dc and nyc and have come to the conclusion that america is full of hot and cool chicks. in fact, as someone who has sampled chicks from in every continent but africa i think that the women in nyc and dc rival women from anywhere in the world. walking down 5th ave i could barely contain my woody.
you guys whining about aw are fucking crazy. i had three dates with aw, and bonked one of them after i took her home from a georgetown bar. all of them were cute, one was fine, and for the first time in a long time i felt that i was with women who were an equal and a peer and not some stupid gold digger or ee head fuck case with a bum and drunk for a father.. i just love the diversity of america too—one was a blonde chick from delaware, one was a persian, and the other a black dominican...ay popeeeah.
american women rock. if you disagree you are gay.
there were too many fat ones but there were just as many with rock hard bodies.
also, to my balls and likely unborn child’s delight, i’ve found that you don’t have to go to ee to exploit ee chicks. while decked out in my breitling and koa san road suit (that even my boss thinks costs 2k) i picked up a smokin’ lithuanian work travel student from the pentagon city mall selling lapel pins. she was obviously looking to stay in the states longer rent free and was searching for a man to shack up with. i took her to espn zone in baltimore and then back to my hotel room…we stayed together from that moment on road tripping up and down the upper eastern seaboard until my flight to narita. the girl had been in america for the entire summer and has never once been to a decent sit-down restaurant in dc or for drinks at a place where the clientele wears collared shirts.
you guys are slippin. maybe its american men that suck and not aw. this girl was a head turner dolled up and a babe dressed down.
being that i am headed for a year or two in a small wealthy gulf state—and that she’s gotta be pregnant from the three-six time daily dose of cum inside her—and my current moldavinka making 3k a month in moscow playing project manager trainee won’t pick up the phone, i think i just found my new live in blondinka to make all the other yanks in the desert envy me.
god bless america.
CBGBConnisur
08-28-08, 15:26
So Dirk, you are African American?? One one line you said you had EE lineage? I guess your mixed? I actually know that Eastern Europe and Russia are known to be very racist. I also was with a blonde Ukrainian ten years my junior, was a bit hesitant when I first met her. She always kept smiling at me. Later I realized she had some really big issues, her dad ran away when she was three. Her mother remarried a Jewish Ukrainian guy. The family fled Ukraine and lives in Germany, both parents are on the dole. One day she said her stepdad wanted to take her to Israel and she was not interested. She also said most Ukrainian guys sit at home and drink all day. Then a few days later I went to her apartment, found out she was drunk...at 10AM in the morning. Very sad, but a nice piece of ass.
Still I met a much better overall woman in Australia, mixed race, father was British, mother was Japanese. She is a doctor, the fourth generation of physicians in her family. Has a brother who lives in the US in SF. An independent foreign woman, who owns her own apartment, drives a BMW, and is probably not likely to suck my bank account dry but will suck something else bone dry :) . I think you can find women like this in the USA but you have to work very hard.
I also notice that Asian women have a neutral body odor, in fact, nearly none at all. If you have ever been around a white woman who has not showered, they have a smell, usually cheese or yogurt like, fly on Air France on a long trip, you will notice it.
I do agree Russia and EE have big racial issues. Western Europe though is not a worry. Its also a fact that the vast majority of EEs will just use a guy for chance to get out of their troubled lives. I have seen this in Australia where older middle aged guys travel to Russia, pick up a woman, take them back to her home, the women then runs to social services accusing the guy of abuse, then they get into the country and get the guy's house.
Who do I think would be a better potential mother to my future children? The latter by a very long shot. I would prefer a half Asian half white physician to a drunk blonde Paris Hilton wannabe from Ukraine who is just looking for a green card or way out of her mess.
So Dirk, you are African American?? One one line you said you had EE lineage? I guess your mixed? I actually know that Eastern Europe and Russia are known to be very racist. I also was with a blonde Ukrainian ten years my junior, was a bit hesitant when I first met her. She always kept smiling at me. Later I realized she had some really big issues, her dad ran away when she was three. Her mother remarried a Jewish Ukrainian guy. The family fled Ukraine and lives in Germany, both parents are on the dole. One day she said her stepdad wanted to take her to Israel and she was not interested. She also said most Ukrainian guys sit at home and drink all day. Then a few days later I went to her apartment, found out she was drunk...at 10AM in the morning. Very sad, but a nice piece of ass.
Still I met a much better overall woman in Australia, mixed race, father was British, mother was Japanese. She is a doctor, the fourth generation of physicians in her family. Has a brother who lives in the US in SF. An independent foreign woman, who owns her own apartment, drives a BMW, and is probably not likely to suck my bank account dry but will suck something else bone dry :) . I think you can find women like this in the USA but you have to work very hard.
I also notice that Asian women have a neutral body odor, in fact, nearly none at all. If you have ever been around a white woman who has not showered, they have a smell, usually cheese or yogurt like, fly on Air France on a long trip, you will notice it.
I do agree Russia and EE have big racial issues. Western Europe though is not a worry. Its also a fact that the vast majority of EEs will just use a guy for chance to get out of their troubled lives. I have seen this in Australia where older middle aged guys travel to Russia, pick up a woman, take them back to her home, the women then runs to social services accusing the guy of abuse, then they get into the country and get the guy's house.
Who do I think would be a better potential mother to my future children? The latter by a very long shot. I would prefer a half Asian half white physician to a drunk blonde Paris Hilton wannabe from Ukraine who is just looking for a green card or way out of her mess.
The FSU familial structure is fucked up. Many of those girls are damaged goods as the collapse of the USSR made most of their fathers and brothers abusive drunks. It's really hard to find a girl in Moldova or Eastern Ukraine with a dad who doesn't drink and is gainfully employed. When you fuck them after an alcohol induced night at a disco you don't notice it, but when you start to have a meaningful relationship with them it materializes to the detriment of the relationship.
If one doesn't live and work there this will not be noticed.
I swear former FSU people act more "niggerish" in their kvartals than any majority black public housing block in New Orelans.
That being said, I had some great times behind the former iron curtain and my white colleagues said that they were treated the exact same way by the "client" too (most of the time the funding was USG tax dollars). And the NATO EE countries are ions ahead of the Russia and Ukraine. The Romanians are particularly adept at sucking up to and bedding down with anyone that they think will further their career or their nation..think WWII...they were proud Nazis but when they saw the Wermacht getting rolled they joined the Allied effort with nary a second thought.
I don't really fear a foreign chick leaving me when they get to the States. I fear not finding one able to tolerate me. At this point, I am more concerned about the inside of a chick--as long as she is hot, in shape, and adventurous--than I am about her skin color. I am under 30, have a white collar job, an Ivy League degree, and don't really think a chick of any color is going to get a huge upgrade over me. unless she wants a filthy rich or famous dude, but I would never seriously consider a woman with a character like that.
GBGB...there are tons of educated, good looking, and fun chicks in America. Hit places like Tyson's Corner in Va or the burbs of Chicago and you will undoubtedly agree with me. In fact, these girls have a hard time finding men of equal caliber.
I grew up in a prominent American slum with fucking nothing. Now I walk/ride around Dubai/Tokyo with thousands of dollars in diamonds on (all paid for by the US government) do I fit your fucking stereotype.umm kinda, black guy gets money and spends it on bling. your money is your money, but i think that people without wealth should build some as opposed to pissing it away on superficial shit.
JM2C
CBGBConnisur
08-28-08, 18:12
I think Asia-Pacific is going the destination for pussy in the coming years. Think about cars. You can put a lot of mileage on Asian automobiles and it will still drive good years later. Drive a European or American car around a lot and it will start to have problems. Get the analogy?
White women fall apart very quickly in the looks department. Check out Paris Hilton's mom, that is going to be Paris in the future. Maybe its all the processed crap in Western diets doing the damage.
A lot of guys do not want an "equal", they would rather take an Eastern European head case who happens to be piece of nice ass. The typical guy seeks good sex, he does not really care about other things, that only happens with regards to LTR. EE chicks are good pieces of ass. I have had a lot of experiences with them, good in the STR, not so good if you want one to be the mother of your kids. I used to have a Polish neighbor and her son was a punk.
I think Asians are overall better for wifey things. They have no issues with cooking or cleaning, white women tend to be filthy.
I am in BKK now and these girls don't do anything for me. Some are cute, but I don't generally find them attractive. Japenese chicks are ok though.
I agree about EE chicks being great STR but awful in the long run. The best LTR are people from your own ilk.
Doctor_Skank
08-28-08, 20:15
I think Asia-Pacific is going the destination for pussy in the coming years. Think about cars. You can put a lot of mileage on Asian automobiles and it will still drive good years later. Drive a European or American car around a lot and it will start to have problems. Get the analogy?
White women fall apart very quickly in the looks department. I think Asians are overall better for wifey things. They have no issues with cooking or cleaning, white women tend to be filthy.You're confused CBGB. White isn't always white. :)
White women CAN hold their value and looks longer than either Asians, latinas or blacks.
I could spend the rest of my life screwing 35-45 year old Scandis and Germans if I wanted too.. but then again why do so when there are 25 year olds available.
Asians age poorly in my opinion and they get saggy ass really quickly. There are differences in ethnic groups as well. I think Malays and Indonesians do better than Chinese for example.
East Africans age well too, and the coming generations of EE women will as well since they are living more comfortable lives than their mothers and grandmothers did.
I suppose the key is how one takes care of oneself.. white people shouldn't get too much sun for example. Looks great at 22... makes your skin leather by 40.
You're confused CBGB. White isn't always white. :)
East Africans age well too, and the coming generations of EE women will as well since they are living more comfortable lives than their mothers and grandmothers did.
I suppose the key is how one takes care of oneself.. white people shouldn't get too much sun for example. Looks great at 22... makes your skin leather by 40.Yes but they (EE) all smoke or sit in smoke filled places and their diets' suck.
Hay Skank, is it possible for a Moldovan with no education to get a job at Mirex in Moscow making 3k a month? Thanks.
CBGBConnisur
08-28-08, 21:28
Everyone has a different view of beauty, in my opinion I am finding Asians to be more attractive overall than women of European origin. There is a big difference between them in terms of lifestyle and in particular diet.
I noticed my current woman, and the way she smells in the morning...does not have any noticable body odor, and its due to a heavily vegetable based diet with little dairy or animal products. Overall with regards to Asian women this could change as their diets become more Westernized.
Did you see the Chinese beach volleyball players?? If that is what they are producing, I will gladly join the Communist party.
I have seen quite a few Scandinavian women, middle aged German women are pretty hefty, many look like Angela Merkel. I went to quite a few saunas over there hoping to see some nice nude young women, and saw mostly middle aged German women in the nude.
Some Asian women do fall apart in the looks department, yet I have see many who have been able to maintain their looks well into middle age.
I could practically sail to Malaysia and Indonesia from my part of the world, and women from both countries can be stunning.
I used to find European women more attractive but many aspects of Asian women just make them better.
Naked Gunz
08-28-08, 21:41
I swear former FSU people act more "niggerish" in their kvartals than any majority black public housing block in New Orelans.
GBGB...there are tons of educated, good looking, and fun chicks in America. Hit places like Tyson's Corner in Va or the burbs of Chicago and you will undoubtedly agree with me. In fact, these girls have a hard time finding men of equal caliber."Equal caliber"...Thats the mantra of millions of women with higher educations, and a closet full of shoes calling great blue-collar guys,"Not good enough".
Get back on topic prick. Theres gonna be a nigger in the White House whether you like it or not.
Doctor_Skank
08-28-08, 21:42
Yes but they (EE) all smoke or sit in smoke filled places and their diets' suck.
Hay Skank, is it possible for a Moldovan with no education to get a job at Mirex in Moscow making 3k a month? Thanks.Mirax is one of the largest (maybe the largest) property developers in the world now, they do pay well. But 3K with no education? Seems high as all she could get PROBABLY is secretarial work and that should pay no more than $1200 entry level. Or maybe somebody took a liking to her and needed a "personal secretary"?
How's her language ability? Russian/English top?
Mirax is one of the largest (maybe the largest) property developers in the world now, they do pay well. But 3K with no education? Seems high as all she could get PROBABLY is secretarial work and that should pay no more than $1200 entry level. Or maybe somebody took a liking to her and needed a "personal secretary"?
How's her language ability? Russian/English top?Thanks. Her English is good, but no formal education in English or anything else. She was selling perfume at an airport before she split for Moscow. She is smart though. Good woman for me but a total fucking head case.
She has her own apartment so she must be making at least 2k a month. I'm a little salty now because we split up and I eschewed the professional opportunity of a lifetime in my field in order to take a well paying but out of my career and dull job with a firm in a place where we could start a family together. Too bad, my new babe from Villinus will have to do.
"Equal caliber"...Thats the mantra of millions of women with higher educations, and a closet full of shoes calling great blue-collar guys,"Not good enough".
Get back on topic prick. Theres gonna be a nigger in the White House whether you like it or not.You guys are bitching like my little sister over how fouled up American woman are when some American men have nothing to offer them...especially a few posters on this board.
Regardless, people are most likely to encounter successful relationships with people of their own socioeconomic class and education level. Do you really dispute this? A corporate attorney has very little in common with a retail sales person. what the fuck can they discuss?
If you had a daughter that busted her ass, got a degree, and has a good job and a good credit report you wouldn't want her with a broke dude working at the mall.
sex can't sustain a relationship like beer can't be one's only liquid.
the only way a dude can be sustained by a hot but dumb wife is if he's already had his family with another lady and/or doesn't rely on her or treat her as a partner.
I need a partner, a rock, and an equal, not a piece of useless eyecandy. When I am 45 I might change my tune though:)
that being said, any employment is admirable and one's profession is often a result of opportunity more than anything else.
What's up with the nigger in the whitehouse comment?
I like Obama, but I think it's important that our President be prepared to handle the job. I am black and want to see a black president but that's not the only factor I care about. The next President is going to have to bomb Iran or prod Israel to do it and is going to have to go toe-to-toe with a militaristic and troublesome Russia that only understands force. Obama and the rest of the neoliberals--if he is in fact one--need to understand that our enemies need a smack upside the head as opposed to an erudite lecture.
And don't be so sure he will win. All I am hearing is African -American this and first black that on CNN about Obama. I sure hope that mainstream America doesn't get turned off by all of this and pull a Bradley effect on him in November. They wrote Nixon off too but his silent majority led him to victory.
maybe we should all emulate this.
in a brief break from a fierce advertising war, republican presidential candidate john mccain will air a one-evening-only ad with a simple message for barack obama: "job well done."
the ad will air before, during and after obama's nomination acceptance speech on national cable television.
in the ad, mccain addresses obama directly, congratulating him for becoming the democratic party's nominee. mccain also recognizes the symbolism of a black man accepting the nomination on the 45th anniversary of the rev. martin luther king jr.'s "i have a dream" speech.
mccain says: "senator obama, this is truly a good day for america. too often the achievements of our opponents go unnoticed. so i wanted to stop and say, congratulations. how perfect that your nomination would come on this historic day. tomorrow, we'll be back at it. but tonight senator, job well done."
while the ad represents a moment of comity, it also casts mccain as a generous and gracious rival on the final day of the democratic national convention where mccain was regularly portrayed in a negative light.
as mccain concedes, this won't last.
both candidates have been running a series of ads criticizing each other, vastly
Doctor_Skank
08-28-08, 22:54
She has her own apartment so she must be making at least 2k a month. I'm a little salty now because we split up and I eschewed the professional opportunity of a lifetime in my field in order to take a well paying but out of my career and dull job with a firm in a place where we could start a family together. Too bad, my new babe from Villinus will have to do.That's a bummer, I guess she didn't know a good thing when she had it.
Moscow is a shark tank now, too many young good-looking or at least not atrocious-looking guys with way too much money throwing it around.
It's a bit like NY in the 80s or California in the 90s dot.com boom. 28 year olds with Ferraris paid for in cash.
So it could very well be that she is seeing a lot of cash thrown around. Still, Moscow is the easiest place on the planet to score fine poon IMO.. but you do need to bring some cash and position with you to swim.
She's Moldovan, man. Unpredictable.
So is one of my newest "gf", we've only known each other a week now... so things very very fresh and hot.
I will agree with you that American girls have their qualities and aren't as bad as often portrayed here (I posted essentially the same about a week before), but I still find Euro and Slavic girls overall more attractive, at least physically.
Nonetheless, there is something infinitely refreshing about relating to a girl from your own culture and not filtering through a sea of cultural issues with every lover's spat.
Naked Gunz
08-29-08, 02:43
You guys are bitching like my little sister over how fouled up American woman are when some American men have nothing to offer them...especially a few posters on this board.
Regardless, people are most likely to encounter successful relationships with people of their own socioeconomic class and education level. Do you really dispute this? A corporate attorney has very little in common with a retail sales person. what the fuck can they discuss?
If you had a daughter that busted her ass, got a degree, and has a good job and a good credit report you wouldn't want her with a broke dude working at the mall.
sex can't sustain a relationship like beer can't be one's only liquid.
the only way a dude can be sustained by a hot but dumb wife is if he's already had his family with another lady and/or doesn't rely on her or treat her as a partner.
I need a partner, a rock, and an equal, not a piece of useless eyecandy. When I am 45 I might change my tune though:)
that being said, any employment is admirable and one's profession is often a result of opportunity more than anything else.
What's up with the nigger in the whitehouse comment?
I like Obama, but I think it's important that our President be prepared to handle the job. I am black and want to see a black president but that's not the only factor I care about. The next President is going to have to bomb Iran or prod Israel to do it and is going to have to go toe-to-toe with a militaristic and troublesome Russia that only understands force. Obama and the rest of the neoliberals--if he is in fact one--need to understand that our enemies need a smack upside the head as opposed to an erudite lecture.
And don't be so sure he will win. All I am hearing is African -American this and first black that on CNN about Obama. I sure hope that mainstream America doesn't get turned off by all of this and pull a Bradley effect on him in November. They wrote Nixon off too but his silent majority led him to victory.
What can't they discuss? Who likes bringing work home? Theres plenty more shit in this world? Your whole report is what has been wrong with people for a long ass time..Your grouping people and stereotyping. Just like a lot of cunts that ASSUME your fucked up because your don't have higher learning.
*What about the janitor that reads Shakespeare, he's out there.
*What about that mall kid that voluteers his time, he's out there too.
In fairness, I won't say all women do this. Just the spoiled women with lots of shoes. I will also agree that it's only human nature for women to select the Alpha male.
I'm also disappointed to see that your Black and just throwing out the nigger comment...you threw it out there. You and rappers try making saying nigger cool. People died over that word, but your not quite 45 so you don't know history( or flunked it). You make it ok for everybody to disrespect you. But you don't have a record deal to get paid to use it. Remember this forum is about women, not niggers.
Mr. Jackson..Pls start a nigger forum so idiots and racist can go and post. I just like to read, discuss and get pussy.
That mall kid would only be given a chance by a very attractive, blonde,Harvard-No, not even that school, say....ummm...a community college graduate..if and only if:
1.He looks like Brad Pitt
2.Has rich parents
3.Has 1 and 2 and she feels she can change him
That's whas up..
I am Brock O'Drama and I approve this message
umm kinda, black guy gets money and spends it on bling. your money is your money, but i think that people without wealth should build some as opposed to pissing it away on superficial shit.
JM2CBlack guy gets money and does what the fuck he wants to do because that what money does it gives you freedom. So I fit the description because I bought some diamond jewelry. Caucasians started this bling shit. Well to do Caucasians spend their money on paintings and vases, some guys call some guys silly for paying for hookers is that superficial? Nope that’s what they like man get your condescending ass out of here. Here I am trying to defend a brother against white racist attacks then you with your Ivy league ass take the time to kick down another black man now that’s black (typical).
Naked Gunz
08-29-08, 04:27
Black guy gets money and does what the fuck he wants to do because that what money does it give you freedom. So I fit the description because I bought some diamond jewelry. Caucasians started this bling shit. Well to do Caucasians spend their money on paintings and vases is that superficial? Nope that’s what they like man get your condescending ass out of here. Here I am trying to defend a brother against white racist attacks then you with your Ivy league ass take the time to kick down another black man now that’s black (typical).
fuck that bit*h ass sell out...we wasted enough time correcting him.
He's still jackin off to Pamela Anderson and EU cunts.
I can still see those worn out Russian hoes in Bahrain that wanted 150 bucks for a half hour.
I guezz we posed ta be bowin down, shuckin n jivin. We juss a cuple a niggaz, don kno nufin! Who dat der nigga wanna b presdent. Lawdy I miss massa strom dumond and massa joe wallice. dey sho help me in truble times.
**** Idiot.****
Back to the task at hand..American women. Love fucking any women really.
Latin countries have it right. Keep your pimp hand strong! Machismo keeps men in much respect in Latin America..actually in the rest of the world really.
Go to any US strip club, you will get fucked, but never laid!
Marry in the US, you will get laid, then fucked! It's just what happens here. Grass is always greener for both of you, elsewhere. Unless you have the morals of Jesus.
You need to wake up Dick..eh Dirk
For you my brother, the reality is:
You wanna fuck a:
Fine white women here in the US:
Prostitution or she is just curious. Marriage aint happening.
Fat white woman: Thier everywhere. White guys tell me we can have the rejects.
Latin: You better have some money or looks. Esp in San Diego. They will cut her tits off for being with you. Mexican Mafia is alive and well.
Asian: Surely you jest. ODRAMA cant get an Asian woman in the USA!
Fat Black woman: EASY but expect some noise.
Black n Attractive: Expect some work. And you BETTA accept her kids!
Black, Attractive and Educated: Are you running for President of the USA?
American Indian: Just met and have been bangin the sweetest 1ST American, that I have ever met. Cherokee queen has shown me more love than my mother. I love you babe, but I won't marry your ass! I hope you know that this is just sex!
I will be in TJ this glorius weekend. As I said, your Black ass can't get a beautiful Latina unless your paying for it. So I'm gonna pay..
OK fuc you DD I'm going to the photo section...BTW your an idiot
American women rock. If you disagree you are gay.
Although I have no problems color coordinating, and can appreciate the theater, I can assure you I'm not gay.
I picked up a smokin’ Lithuanian work travel student from the Pentagon City mall selling lapel pins. But I thought you said American women rock? Why did you pick up a Lithuanian? Are you gay?
A corporate attorney has very little in common with a retail sales person. what the fuck can they discuss?I don't know, you tell us, you're the one who has an Ivy League degree that has supposedly impregnated a Lithuanian girl that sells lapel pins at the Pentagon City mall. What do you guys talk about?
I need a partner, a rock, and an equal, not a piece of useless eyecandy.So, a woman that sells pins at the mall is your equal??
i told dj and a few other brothers about how racist, very stereotypical, and very very stupid most ee and russians are but they never seemed to want to hear what i had to say; i.e, ee is not a pussy nirvana for people of color. i am someone who works in that part of the world, lived in that part of the world, and whose maternal lineage hails from that part of the world so i know what i am talking about. i am a young black guy that worked (now a freelancer) for the emerging markets group of a multinational consulting firm and interacted with everyone from sr. level govt officials to poor students in some former eastern bloc countries. my understanding of the dynamics of these issues are more complete than anyone on this board and i got real frustrated when some isg dude who had never been to poland was writing about how polish chicks just love all brothas when i had gotten off the plane from krakow a few months prior. i guess some people just don't wanna hear what they don't wanna here.
yes i screwed half of moldova and a 5th of romania and bulgaria but there were many days when i told my managing director to get me the fuck off the projects that i working on because of the racism and disrespect i encountered from some ignorant slavic imbed who couldn't even figure out an excel spreadsheet. i guess if one brotha goes to bucharest for a week, stays at the jw, hangs out in planters, and picks up on poor student girls or adventurous artsy fartsies then he will think that romanian girls are crazy for blacks...just like if someone thinks that all actors in la are rich and famous.
the bottom is line is that being black puts you at more of a disadvantage then it does back home with chicks in ee but that if you are good looking, have money, and are interesting you can still score a shipload of hot babes.
and yes, russia is a fucked up, violent, and brainwashed place full of small minded, crude, and myopic people. but the girls there will suck your dick for as long as it takes you to cum. i love russian chicks.dude, you got no respect to, and no understanding about other people's life in other countries. whatever you say about your "knowledge" and "experience".
the way you talk about them("poor students") makes no wonder why you feel the racism. does not matter if you're black, red or white. in reality you are the one(i guess a black guy) who is "racist, very stereotypical" in the first place. and to make it worse you also try to sound like that type of gringo many foreigners and other gringos complain about. it's like the worst of two in one person.
i picked up a smokin’ lithuanian work travel student from the pentagon city mall selling lapel pins. she was obviously looking to stay in the states longer rent free and was searching for a man to shack up with. i took her to espn zone...the girl had been in america for the entire summer and has never once been to a decent sit-down restaurant in dc or for drinks at a place where the clientele wears collared shirts.if you love american chicks, great. but the story about the lithuanian chick is rather "funny". so you impressed her with a restaurant where "clientele wears collared shirts."? good job:) no need to tell here about how smart you're and what kinds jobs you have, it does not matter and does not make sense at all.
i had three dates with aw, and bonked one of them after i took her home from a georgetown bar. all of them were cute, one was fine, and for the first time in a long time i felt that i was with women who were an equal and a peer and not some stupid gold digger or ee head fuck case with a bum and drunk for a father.btw there are plenty of smart, educated, having good jobs and with good(not drunks as some people here like to think) parents, women in ee. for some reason you mention only lowest class girls you were hooking up with, and bragging how superior you're to them.
when i see this kinds of stories, it gives a good explanation why many people overseas feel negative about americans.
CBGBConnisur
08-29-08, 17:09
Wow this is turning into a political thread thanks to Anonymous. If American women are that great why not just stay in the US? Why bother living overseas?
I doubt even the Republicans are going to give a "smack upside the head" to the Russians, look at the lame response by Bush towards Russia's invasion of Georgia. Although the Georgians actually started the whole thing, the US response has been limp. McCain is Bush lite, so his response would be even lamer. See more of an Asian century than anything else these days.
You might be able to find nice American women, but women in other countries seem to offer something more.
I know a lot of black women who get absolutely pissed whenever they see a white woman with a black man. Most white men, with the exception of a few really do not care. I have seen a lot of Pacific Islander male/white female couples where I live and I am sure it annoys the hell out of Pacific Islander women.
With Asian guys, they really do not care about Asian woman White male relationships. In most Western countries its probably less than 5 percent of Asian women date outside their race, the vast majority date their own. In fact most Asian guys I talked to have little interest in white women and prefer their own easily.
DJ FourMoney
08-30-08, 08:55
DD doesn't come around that much, too busy I suppose. This isn't the first time he has attacked me, well I really wouldn't call it an attack, just pickin on me I suppose.
EE women have their issues, in fact ALL WOMEN have issues, its weather you want to put up with them or not.
The fact that so many women were willing to follow Hillary into the flames; she showed how smart she was and got the fuck out of the way of the coming train....
Enough political talk, I've had it for this week already....
I am Joe Blow Average Dude, I happen to be Black I usually don't get a cookie for that, but every once in a blue moon I do, so be it.
For years the women I would come in contact with had children from previous failed relationships. 76% of child are raised by a single parent households, usually women. 80% of marriages less than 5 years old end in divorce. Now I must be some type of moron not to want to continue beating a dead horse and take what's given too me.
Nor do I want to criss-cross the country looking for a woman. In fact I am on hiatus at the moment, other things have my attention. I am in no position to play "Capt Save A Hoe" so I don't portray that when I travel. I'm just me, I have faults, I have issues like anybody else, if you want to accept that, great. The problem is the women willing to accept me are below my Mendoza line. I am attempting a plan to keep me in Europe for an extended amount of time, long distance phone calls and constant trips add up, I say combine that cost into one long trip, see what happens.
But enough about that, too me its looking more bleek all the time. That 3-5 year age gap that Western women seem to love is becoming a serious problem.
I don't know the stats but it seems to me most women over 30 either have no children and bound to their career (this is a woman I really wouldn't meet) or have children and have spent the last 5-10 years struggling paycheck to paycheck (a woman I'm more likely to meet) so it seems its my darkest hour doesn't it?
I don't believe the European woman are perfect, I say it holds some promise as it does for other men that have ventured over there. Its not a perfect solution, nothing is.
But my requirements are best met by somebody that doesn't live in the US...
Cloud Palms
08-30-08, 15:34
With Asian guys, they really do not care about Asian woman White male relationships. In most Western countries its probably less than 5 percent of Asian women date outside their race, the vast majority date their own. In fact most Asian guys I talked to have little interest in white women and prefer their own easily.
CBGB,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage#Asian_and_Caucasian
I am not sure how it is in your area of the world but Wikipedia stats say 41% of asian american women have white husbands. Thats marriage only and those are just stats.
As for dating I am sure if you ask any asian in a western country they will say that asian women will rather date a non-asian and that there are at least 20x as many asian female/white male dating relationships as there are asian male/white female dating relationships. It can be attributed to many things and has been discussed over and over but the most prevalent IMO are economic status and western media upbringing.
As for asian males not having interest in white women, I do believe that asian males are interested in white women but its just a very low number of white women will date asian man and those white women are usually below average looking. So your asian friends may feel its not worth the time or effort to pursue a relationship due to high rejection rate.
Its the same premise with American women and the posters here. Western women have become so hypergamous that its simply easier and more worthwhile for western men to spend their time and money planning to look for women in foreign countries. If certain guys can get Western women no problem, great, however not all can or even want to anymore.
Dude, you got no respect to, and no understanding about other people's life in other countries. Whatever you say about your "knowledge" and "experience".
The way you talk about them("poor students") makes no wonder why you feel the racism. Does not matter if you're black, red or white. In reality you are the one(I guess a black guy) who is "racist, very stereotypical" in the first place. And to make it worse you also try to sound like that type of gringo many foreigners and other gringos complain about. It's like the worst of two in one person.
If you love American chicks, great. But the story about the Lithuanian chick is rather "funny". So you impressed her with a restaurant where "clientele wears collared shirts."? Good job:) No need to tell here about how smart you're and what kinds jobs you have, it does not matter and does not make sense at all.
BTW there are plenty of smart, educated, having good jobs and with good(not drunks as some people here like to think) parents, women in EE. For some reason you mention only lowest class girls you were hooking up with, and bragging how superior you're to them.
When I see this kinds of stories, it gives a good explanation why many people overseas feel negative about Americans.I wish you were right my right my friend but unfortunately you are dead wrong on numerous accounts.
My depth and breath of my experiences in certain parts of the world is unparalleled and truly unique. I don’t think that anyone alive can proffer an analogous experience with issues of race and ethnicity that I write of: I identify myself as a American black and have a Slavic mother, however, more importantly I spent more than a few summers as a kid in my mother’s native land in a place 40 or so kilometers outside of a Balkan capital city, I spent a year after HS on a Rotary Club Scholarship in the FSU, spent a semester studying and interning in another former eastern bloc country, and returned after graduation to work in development in a number of EE countries. My experiences and diversity of interactions won’t be duplicated—from the well connected, the powerful, the jenuesse doreiee (sp?), the average ivan, the foreign students of color, the rural…All of the aforementioned I have frequently interacted with. I doubt many people have risen from the best hotel in the city in some EE land, been to morning meetings with Dep. Ministers, worked out during lunch time with the local mafioso/thickenecks, took an evening meal with my godson and his family, hung out early night at the local dive run by an arab and frequented by poor students, and finished the night off at the poshest most elite club in the city where the entire clientele knows my name and the bartenders know how stiff I like my whiskey cola.
I have been treated as someone at the top of the expat food chain and have been treated as poor disenfranchised African student—sometimes in the same hour.
And my family on my mom’s side is Jewish, so that gives me an additional insight into racial and ethnic ideas in EE—we are part of society yet not totally embraced by it.
I don’t understand much of your post. I really don’t, I am not trying to be coy.
But I can tell you that you have a fundamental misunderstanding or a very limited knowledge of the places which you speak of. The Soviet Union was never cobbled together under the guise of equal opportunity and an ethnic melting pot…the USSR was always more salad than anything else. Think Rome as the epicenter of the Roman Empire with Roman culture and technology being forced upon others in the involuntary empire. The Russians always had the mentality that they were culturally (and otherwise) superior to the Asians and Caucasians of the USSR and that they were civilizing them. The USSR sponsored cultural, educational, and technological transfers to yellow, brown, and black communists with the implicit and explicit understanding that they were the gracious superior partner.
Russians truly believe that they are superior to people of other ethnicities. I may appear to embrace certain cultural stereotypes, but I don’t believe (nor do I believe most rational Westerners do) that one race is superior to that of another.
Unfortunately from my personal and professional observations. I will state that not every culture, government, or modus operandi is equal. Some cultures and ethnicities excel more than others but I don’t think it is racial/ethnic. I think it’s just that the pathos and ethos of some groups cultivate opportunities for success more so than others do.
Do you mean that I experienced the worse of both worlds because I bore the brunt of both the anti-rich Western jealously/sentiment as well as racism. Maybe, but remember the ultimate context of the message board—finding women to sleep with you. Although the men may be jealous, no EE looks down upon wealthy (comparatively) and successfully westerners. In fact the higher you are up on the totem pole the more desirable you are; I think this is true all over the world.
I agree with you 100% that there are plenty of educated, successful, and loyal women of EE decent out there. I worked with many of them and dated a few. The Moldovan girl that I love who just bounced me to the curve has no formal education but a powerful mind and would no doubt be a very successful person if she lived in the West.
I have always found women from the FYRs to be both beautiful and more well rounded than women from other parts of EE. For such a small country, Macedonia produces some real gems.
That being said, the casual sex tourist that dominates this board does not really have access to women of this caliber. You need to have a professional(ish) job, spend extended periods of time in EE, and be in the loop to have frequent interaction with this type of women. But possible though…very possible.
Sorry for straying from the topic; I don’t like to do this.
Although I have no problems color coordinating, and can appreciate the theater, I can assure you I'm not gay.
But I thought you said American women rock? Why did you pick up a Lithuanian? Are you gay??
I don't know, you tell us, you're the one who has an Ivy League degree that has supposedly impregnated a Lithuanian girl that sells lapel pins at the Pentagon City mall. What do you guys talk about?
So, a woman that sells pins at the mall is your equal??Re Lithunaia Chick
Many of you guys missed my point but perhaps it was my fault for not making it clearer.
Stripped of euphemism, the point of the AW thread is that: AW are ugly and have expectations which (in your book) are unrealistic and that you are unable or unwilling to meet.
The criticism of me is that I am inconsistent in stating that I only want to marry a high faluttin’ AW on one hand and extolling the virtues of my escapades with an EE woman of Baltic decent that works in a shopping mall on the other.
Right?
First, let me begin by stating that fucking, dating, and marrying are not really related in my book. What makes a good fuck and a fun date does not equate to a happy LTR.
I believe that true love and true friendship can only be shared among equals… That being said, having dibs on a hot girl that provides great sex is a good deal. One I rarely turn down. As I wrote, I am headed to small gulf state soon and those in the contracting world know that places like Kuwait and Kosovo can be very bearable if you have a girl with you...I’d rather be in Baghdad than alone in Prishtina.
I’m not looking for a wifey to take with me to the dessert, just someone who can tolerate me, that I enjoy a modicum of chemistry with, and that is sportable around town.
I don’t know any American woman that would quit her job on short notice without a guarantee of marriage and tag along with me to a repressive Islamic state.
Re the social status of the Litunaian girl??
There is no comparison between a 23 yo EE chick looking to experience America for a summer or a semester working at the mall and a 43 yo dude in a dead end job pulling a shift at the food court in the same place. 8 bucks an hour plus commission isn’t bad for a Lithuanian student, but doesn’t provide for an enjoyable life for a grown American. I think that America would be a better place if more young people took some time off before growing up and backpacked Europe, taught English in SEA, or volunteered in Latin America.
And, normally, I’ve found that the EE chicks that I meet in America are more ambitious, more adventurous, and (importantly) speak better English than the average EE chick I meet at the disco in Odessa.
Finally, I don’t understand the critique of me for treating a lady to a nice and classy date and trying to impress her. The key to fucking girls is to impress them. Does anyone doubt this? Shagging girls is the end result of impressing them with one or more of the following: money, looks, status, ability to have fun, wit, and personality…or getting them really really shitfaced.
My point was that here is a prime piece of EE ass who had not been on a decent date by an American man for almost three months of being in the States. That’s just awful. Would you want your daughter to give a dude some pussy initially for taco bell and a Blockbuster night at the crib?
I was trying to impart that there is plenty of tail available in America—both home grown and imported— for those that look. It’s not necessary to travel ½ way around the world to find an EE chick when there are plenty of them—perhaps even of a higher caliber—already in the States. The Chinese food is better in Manhattan than it is Beijing.
Sorry for straying from the topic; I don’t like to do this.
Brothas,
I’m not trying to hate. I really ain't. I assure you that I am not an Uncle Tom or a sell out.
I certainly was not trying to attack DJ.
I sat at the black table in high school:).
You asked if ostentatious displays of wealth are stereotypical of black folk. I answered that it was. It’s irrelevant if white people “started it” or if Mafiasos in the 2nd world are iced up. I care about us more than about them. Some black people have their priorities all mixed up…bling and overpriced gear is cool but reading books and speaking intelligently is not and marks the offender as a sell out. Bad.
Bro, I am happy that you walk around Dubai with 1000s of dollars worth of diamonds and chains. I really am. However, I’d be happier if I saw you in Dubai respectfully dressed (not saying you don’t) and had thousands of dollars invested in one of T. Boone Pickens' energy firms.
BTW, I love women of color. I just relate to them better. My dream chick would be a girl like Soloadad O’ Brien or that mixed sister from CNN. I date what I can where I can and I don’t find many women of color in the parts of the world where I work…was banging a nice Civil Affairs 0-3 Sista in the sand box recently though.
I have seen some absolutely beautiful ½ African ½ EE women in the Balkans and the FSU. They are few and far between though.
Sorry for straying off topic; I don’t like to do this.
I am going to go fuck a ***** now.
CBGB,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage#Asian_and_Caucasian
I am not sure how it is in your area of the world but Wikipedia stats say 41% of asian american women have white husbands. Thats marriage only and those are just stats.
As for dating I am sure if you ask any asian in a western country they will say that asian women will rather date a non-asian and that there are at least 20x as many asian female/white male dating relationships as there are asian male/white female dating relationships. It can be attributed to many things and has been discussed over and over but the most prevalent IMO are economic status and western media upbringing.
As for asian males not having interest in white women, I do believe that asian males are interested in white women but its just a very low number of white women will date asian man and those white women are usually below average looking. So your asian friends may feel its not worth the time or effort to pursue a relationship due to high rejection rate.
Its the same premise with American women and the posters here. Western women have become so hypergamous that its simply easier and more worthwhile for western men to spend their time and money planning to look for women in foreign countries. If certain guys can get Western women no problem, great, however not all can or even want to anymore.I think that most Japanses and Koreans of middle to upper income levels would prefer to marry within in their own ethnic group.
I am sure that most well-helled Thais look down upon Thais that date white and other farangs. However, most Thais are poor and date farangs because they think they have money and behave marginaly better than poor Thai guys.
I have been hanging out with some Indian girls from Kenya lately and one of them said that when her father found out that she had a white english boyfriend in college he told her to dump him or that he would cut off her financail support.
Oddly, uppercrust minorities/people of color eschew interracial relationships much more than mainstream uppercrust whites do.
Somtimes it appears that black guys really dig whitechicks in the States;however, I can say from first hand experience that among the American black elite, showing up with a blond trophy date will get one univited from these groups very quickly. Conversely, I have been to the hamptons and private clubs with monied white chicks in college and didn't sense any overt hostility. More than once, I was even surpisingly embraced by the girls extended family. One chick's parents were so cool that they didn't even make us go through the facade of sleeping in seperate quarters.
CBGBConnisur
08-31-08, 03:13
CBGB,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage#Asian_and_Caucasian
I am not sure how it is in your area of the world but Wikipedia stats say 41% of asian american women have white husbands. Thats marriage only and those are just stats.
As for dating I am sure if you ask any asian in a western country they will say that asian women will rather date a non-asian and that there are at least 20x as many asian female/white male dating relationships as there are asian male/white female dating relationships. It can be attributed to many things and has been discussed over and over but the most prevalent IMO are economic status and western media upbringing.
As for asian males not having interest in white women, I do believe that asian males are interested in white women but its just a very low number of white women will date asian man and those white women are usually below average looking. So your asian friends may feel its not worth the time or effort to pursue a relationship due to high rejection rate.
Its the same premise with American women and the posters here. Western women have become so hypergamous that its simply easier and more worthwhile for western men to spend their time and money planning to look for women in foreign countries. If certain guys can get Western women no problem, great, however not all can or even want to anymore.I am looking at things from the Australian perspective as Australia has a large Asian population, per capita its higher than the US or Canada, one in ten Australians have Asian heritage. The vast majority of Asian women here marry their own kind, and small minority marry Caucasians or other nationalities. I knew an Indian guy who married a Japanese woman in Sydney. The two most common types of interracial couples down under is a white male and east asian female and the other is a white female pacific islander male, both are equally common. Pacific Islander is the same racial group as the Rock aka Dwayne Johnson. A lot of my white friends and I joke that we should just put on make up and wear curly wigs to pretend we're Pacific Islander football players and we get the best lays. I will often see some of the best looking white women with some rather average looking Islander guys, and with White males, most the Asian females tend to be average to above average and some are highly attractive, but in all nearly all cases its the white male doing the pursuing.
When I lived in New York City during the 1990s, I used to see a lot of Russian women with Indian males, it was really common, I even remember seeing one such couple the weekend before 9-11. A lot of those CIS types are into Bollywood big time.
I have ran into a good number of Asian males in Australia, the vast majority don't seem to have much interest in non Asian partners. A lot of white males find Asians more attractive because of behavioral habits, Asian women are far more submissive, Alan Dershowitz once said he preferred Asians because they respected men far more than white females. So an Asian guy would have almost no control over a white female. Although Japan might rip my analysis apart as white prostitutes are common in Tokyo and Japanese men pay big
money for white prostitutes, some Yakuza often have foreign, almost always white girfriends. Japan though is a bit of an anomaly. The mainland Chinese tend to stick with their own kind.
My current partner is mixed race, part British from her dad's side and Japanese from her mother. I honestly though did not think she was Asian when I met her, and I saw a photo of her dad, had dark eyes and hair, looked more Italian than English.
Brothas,
I’m not trying to hate. I really ain't. I assure you that I am not an Uncle Tom or a sell out.
I certainly was not trying to attack DJ.
I sat at the black table in high school:).
You asked if ostentatious displays of wealth are stereotypical of black folk. I answered that it was. It’s irrelevant if white people “started it” or if Mafiasos in the 2nd world are iced up. I care about us more than about them. Some black people have their priorities all mixed up…bling and overpriced gear is cool but reading books and speaking intelligently is not and marks the offender as a sell out. Bad.
Bro, I am happy that you walk around Dubai with 1000s of dollars worth of diamonds and chains. I really am. However, I’d be happier if I saw you in Dubai respectfully dressed (not saying you don’t) and had thousands of dollars invested in one of T. Boone Pickens' energy firms.
BTW, I love women of color. I just relate to them better. My dream chick would be a girl like Soloadad O’ Brien or that mixed sister from CNN. I date what I can where I can and I don’t find many women of color in the parts of the world where I work…was banging a nice Civil Affairs 0-3 Sista in the sand box recently though.
I have seen some absolutely beautiful ½ African ½ EE women in the Balkans and the FSU. They are few and far between though.
Sorry for straying off topic; I don’t like to do this.
I am going to go fuck a ***** now.This guy is a riot his behavior is typical of well-fed silver spoon cats he keeps contradicting himself. I always do a “post” background with whom I have these “virtual spats” with I like to find out just who the hell I am arguing with. I find he was chastised about that contradicting himself in the Moldavian thread. Then I read one of his posts where he spent thousands on a fucking suit. Yeah I have a $10,000 watch the piece holds value because of the properties from which it is composed does your suit hold value?
Then he was asking about buying property in Thailand when he just said Thai women really don’t do anything for him. You still have yet to address Brian Maloney the racist who lurks on this page whom attacked DJ and most black Americans in his PM to me.
You are not a brother in the typical sense. You are much white as you are black. Then that “I sat at the back table” comment was that suppose to be an attempt at humor. Man you are so easy to tear apart.
I dress how I want to dress. Who is to say what is respectfully dressed and what isn’t? As long as a person doesn’t wear something that is offensive then anything is inbounds we all have different styles I am a hip hopper. I am not Barack Obama I don’t do suits that shit is not me.
Then you just said you use your money to impress so it’s not ok for others to do it? Man I think you really do belong in Europe. Stop calling yourself a Black American you are insulting me and every other brother on this board.
stripped of euphemism, the point of the aw thread is that: aw are ugly and have expectations which (in your book) are unrealistic and that you are unable or unwilling to meet.
well, almost. the statement would be correct saying aw attitudes are ugly with unrealistic expectations and an entitlement mentality. aw's come in all sizes, shapes, and colors in america and can be quite beautiful. unfortunately most of the time they have a queen-size attitude (***** shield as pickup artists call it) that prohibits decent interaction.
anyone see "exiled" on mtv? funny as hell seeing spoiled aw's getting a dose of reality using a pit for a latrine, or handling elephant [CodeWord116] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116). show features former "sweet 16" profiles of girls who had everything done for them and spent for their sweet 16 birthday party.
"exiled" has their parents sending them to live in primitive conditions in africa, peru, morocco, and the arctic circle to learn about the real world. obviously this type of show can only be american or it would not be believable.
now i'm gonna go watch "the hills" for more great representation of american young people.
CBGBConnisur
08-31-08, 05:45
I think Anonymous revealed his true intentions behind his rather nasty assessment of Eastern Europeans when he mentioned that he is half Jewish, who really knows, but many Jews seem to always have a indirectly hostile way of looking at whole groups of people from countries where they have been persecuted. Many Jews also consider themselves "black".
Who really knows who or what he is, just a wanker.
My advice is to go out there, and see the world for what its worth and see how the world treats you, everyone has a different experience and anyone with the courage and perseverance to do this will find what they are looking for.
Tarius Shinobi
08-31-08, 11:10
Damn, has it become this bad?
stripped of euphemism, the point of the aw thread is that: aw are ugly and have expectations which (in your book) are unrealistic and that you are unable or unwilling to meet.
well, almost. the statement would be correct saying aw attitudes are ugly with unrealistic expectations and an entitlement mentality. aw's come in all sizes, shapes, and colors in america and can be quite beautiful. unfortunately most of the time they have a queen-size attitude (***** shield as pickup artists call it) that prohibits decent interaction.
anyone see "exiled" on mtv? funny as hell seeing spoiled aw's getting a dose of reality using a pit for a latrine, or handling elephant [CodeWord116] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116). show features former "sweet 16" profiles of girls who had everything done for them and spent for their sweet 16 birthday party.
exiled" has their parents sending them to live in primitive conditions in africa, peru, morocco, and the arctic circle to learn about the real world. obviously this type of show can only be american or it would not be believable.
now i'm gonna go watch "the hills" for more great representation of american young people.all i was saying was that there are some nice looking aw out there and that i find it easier to have ltrs with them than other women.
This guy is a riot his behavior is typical of well-fed silver spoon cats he keeps contradicting himself. I always do a “post” background with whom I have these “virtual spats” with I like to find out just who the hell I am arguing with. I find he was chastised about that contradicting himself in the Moldavian thread. Then I read one of his posts where he spent thousands on a fucking suit. Yeah I have a $10,000 watch the piece holds value because of the properties from which it is composed does your suit hold value?
Then he was asking about buying property in Thailand when he just said Thai women really don’t do anything for him. You still have yet to address Brian Maloney the racist who lurks on this page whom attacked DJ and most black Americans in his PM to me.
You are not a brother in the typical sense. You are much white as you are black. Then that “I sat at the back table” comment was that suppose to be an attempt at humor. Man you are so easy to tear apart.
I dress how I want to dress. Who is to say what is respectfully dressed and what isn’t? As long as a person doesn’t wear something that is offensive then anything is inbounds we all have different styles I am a hip hopper. I am not Barack Obama I don’t do suits that shit is not me.
Then you just said you use your money to impress so it’s not ok for others to do it? Man I think you really do belong in Europe. Stop calling yourself a Black American you are insulting me and every other brother on this board.I’m not sure how productive it is for us to continue this “spat.” It pollutes the board for questionable relevancy; however, I do try to proffer all of my comments within the context of screwing women. I’ll likely delete many of my comments so I can have a small measure of plausible deniability regarding my identity.
I have innumerable faults and hang ups but the ones that I have been labeled with her are far from correct.
What you need to consider is: Is the poster (more or less) who he says he is and then you can make your own determination about how analogous his experiences are or will be to your own? Attacking the messenger because he is annoying or aggravating doesn’t further the discussion much. My bonafides have (more or less) been established by some mongerers that I have met so that ticks the first box. I have sort of a Playboy reputation in some of the places that I have been at and some members have seen me around town with beautiful EE women. So I not only talk the talk but walk the walk…even if my personality and background is hard for some to comprehend and defies the norm.
What’s important to gather form my posts is that here is black guy that was worked, mongered, and studied in places that is the current subject of discussion. For better or for worse, this person has much more experience in this part of the world with these issues than anyone else (posting) does. ***It’s debatable, albeit a rather silly one, if I am perceived as black enough my certain members in this thread. What’s beyond debate is that I am perceived as black by women and the people of EE (Not Latin America though). Is this a fair assumption to make?***
A few of the arguments which you make below are unsupportable. I don’t know if this is the result of faulty logic or misunderstanding my posts. Some of what I write is nuanced and I will be the fist to admit that I peruse this board much more than I read it.
First, once, again, I will say that getting hot girls is all about money and status. In rich Western nations is may take a bit more than this (looks, personality, wit) but driving around any town in a Porsche will get you laid by average to above average looking women.
I forget exactly what happened all the Moldovan board but I know that one time I was drunk and started insulting France and a Frenchman. That was totally my fault and I accept responsibility for it.
I think I also had a problem with the bullshit low quality fake ass mongerer in that place. If you have money and flaunt it that’s one thing, if you don’t and act like you do that’s another. I was annoyed at the absurdity of dudes on the Italian dole taking a 500 lei prostitute out to dinner while passing around fake ass “Director” business cards when the guy needed 50 Euros from me at the airport to change his ticket because he was to broke to go home. Everyone was lying and misrepresenting themselves, from the hoe acting like she is good girl to the spaghetti eating welfare lecher portraying himself a successful businessperson.
Let’s be honest, there are no serious people in places like Moldova—save a select few.. Any and all smart citizens left long ago and unless one has very high connections and is stupid (the local partner will not honor their commitment) there is no real deals to be done. Just a place full of bullshitters bullshitting.
I guess I see and understand much more than the casual two week a year sex tourist does and I am turned off by it.
I shouldn’t really care but at times I do.
Contradictions re Thailand and real estate???
Liking the women of a place is not a sine qua non for buying/renting property there.
I was working in Iraq and knew a bunch of dudes that were kicking around the idea of having a villa in Bangkok for our R&Rs. The idea never came to fruitition, but there are many reasons why I like Thailand even though I am not generally attracted to Thai women—the live and let live Buddhist mentality, the (supposed) affordability of the Bangkok, the modern infrastructure and amenities, the bangin’ nightlife, the lonely Swedish chicks, the ease of obtaining multiple visas, etc.
That being said, I do like some Thai chicks but they tend to look like the 10,000 baht surgically enhanced hoes at the Hyatt. I like tall curvy women and Thai girls don’t generally meet that description—however, in places like Bed Supper Club, RCA, and Q bar one can surely find them. I guess it’s akin to someone saying that they don’t like black women but they think that Halle Berry is gorgeous. ..and hanging out in upscale places in LA where the Halle Berry types congregate.
I am not really contradicting myself if one were to use the widely accepted definition of the word…just saying novel things that don’t fit the normal paradigm.
Actually, I don’t belong in Europe, Asia, Africa, or Latin America, I belong in my country, the USA.
CBGBConnisur
08-31-08, 13:35
Can you please fuck off Anonymous, we do not want you here and you are so full of shit that its coming out of your mouth. Get Lost.
Naked Gunz
08-31-08, 16:44
DD doesn't come around that much, too busy I suppose. This isn't the first time he has attacked me, well I really wouldn't call it an attack, just pickin on me I suppose.
EE women have their issues, in fact ALL WOMEN have issues, its weather you want to put up with them or not.
The fact that so many women were willing to follow Hillary into the flames; she showed how smart she was and got the fuck out of the way of the coming train....
Enough political talk, I've had it for this week already....
I am Joe Blow Average Dude, I happen to be Black I usually don't get a cookie for that, but every once in a blue moon I do, so be it.
For years the women I would come in contact with had children from previous failed relationships. 76% of child are raised by a single parent households, usually women. 80% of marriages less than 5 years old end in divorce. Now I must be some type of moron not to want to continue beating a dead horse and take what's given too me.
Nor do I want to criss-cross the country looking for a woman. In fact I am on hiatus at the moment, other things have my attention. I am in no position to play "Capt Save A Hoe" so I don't portray that when I travel. I'm just me, I have faults, I have issues like anybody else, if you want to accept that, great. The problem is the women willing to accept me are below my Mendoza line. I am attempting a plan to keep me in Europe for an extended amount of time, long distance phone calls and constant trips add up, I say combine that cost into one long trip, see what happens.
But enough about that, too me its looking more bleek all the time. That 3-5 year age gap that Western women seem to love is becoming a serious problem.
I don't know the stats but it seems to me most women over 30 either have no children and bound to their career (this is a woman I really wouldn't meet) or have children and have spent the last 5-10 years struggling paycheck to paycheck (a woman I'm more likely to meet) so it seems its my darkest hour doesn't it?
I don't believe the European woman are perfect, I say it holds some promise as it does for other men that have ventured over there. Its not a perfect solution, nothing is.
But my requirements are best met by somebody that doesn't live in the US...
Have you considered Latin America?
I agree, US state of man/ women relations is at a low. It probably would have always been the way it is now if America would have delivered on the promise of ,"Freedom", a lot sooner. Peolpe were stuck with each other before.
Can you please fuck off Anonymous, we do not want you here and you are so full of shit that its coming out of your mouth. Get Lost.Add me to your ignore list. I just did the same to you. Your comments have no veracity to them..."many jews see themselves as black"... but it is useless to call people names on an anonymous message board....especially someone like you who just engages in absurd political banter and doesn't post pictures or chronicles of their own p4P experience.
Later.
DJ FourMoney
09-01-08, 10:26
Have you considered Latin America?
I agree, US state of man/ women relations is at a low. It probably would have always been the way it is now if America would have delivered on the promise of ,"Freedom", a lot sooner. People were stuck with each other before.
I have... but are my chances any better?
I'd say No, about the same.
I'm working on a plan we'll see if it works out...
CBGBConnisur
09-02-08, 18:57
Money and hence power breaks down national, religious, and racial barriers, it will happen time and again.
Lots of CIS golddiggers now applying their trade in Dubai, Mumbai, and Hong Kong, so that throws a wrench into the idea that Russians are completely racist towards nonwhites. I would say some people stand a better chance with a white Russian woman than with a white woman from Australia, Canada, or the US.
Human beings will be human beings until the end of time.
Money and hence power breaks down national, religious, and racial barriers, it will happen time and again.
Lots of CIS golddiggers now applying their trade in Dubai, Mumbai, and Hong Kong, so that throws a wrench into the idea that Russians are completely racist towards nonwhites. I would say some people stand a better chance with a white Russian woman than with a white woman from Australia, Canada, or the US.
Human beings will be human beings until the end of time.
I frequent Dubai around every few months or so and I had more than my fair share of Russian/EE girls turn their nose up to me yes WGs leaving me to choose between the money grubbing unfriendly Chinese, run of the mill Filipinas and insane I "I don't have a disease" Africans. I am late 20s and in excellent shape :)
CBGBConnisur
09-03-08, 17:33
The fact remains that there are a lot of Russian and CIS women selling their bodies in exotic places to Arabs, Indians, and Chinese.
The fact remains that there are a lot of Russian and CIS women selling their bodies in exotic places to Arabs, Indians, and Chinese.
When it comes to money they will settle if nothing else is on the menu thats why the third world is so attractive to the average westerner :)
Naked Gunz
09-04-08, 09:08
Money and hence power breaks down national, religious, and racial barriers, it will happen time and again.
Amen. She will have to justify to her fam and friends why she crossed the racial lines. The only acceptable reasons are money or position(power).
That gives her scab friends and family hope to catch a few crumbs.
This is actually the same shit we encounter with third world women, but on a more sophisticated level here. Third world riches are: steady income, food and shelter. USA riches: Steady income of 100K+, fine dining, beautiful mansion. Your the Alpha male in either case. So American women are not really diff than any other nationality.
Gents, this particular forum is American women and opinions. There is a diff between American women, and women in America. Lots of them here don't give you the BS you have had to endure.
Doctor_Skank
09-04-08, 09:29
Amen. She will have to justify to her fam and friends why she crossed the racial lines. The only acceptable reasons are money or position(power).
That gives her scab friends and family hope to catch a few crumbs.
This is actually the same shit we encounter with third world women, but on a more sophisticated level here. Third world riches are: steady income, food and shelter. USA riches: Steady income of 100K+, fine dining, beautiful mansion. Your the Alpha male in either case. So American women are not really diff than any other nationality.
Gents, this particular forum is American women and opinions. There is a diff between American women, and women in America. Lots of them here don't give you the BS you have had to endure.I don't think this is off topic, but just for the sake of debate... what is so wrong about women wanting a better life, i.e. money and position? Ultimately women are looking to create an environment where they can raise children. Every parent wishes his child to be raised in a secure environment and a fundamental desire is also to create such an environment that is superior to the one that one experienced as a child. Your children should have it better than you did.
Love is of course a deciding factor in a relationship, however love is an intangible, immeasurable commodity. What is it worth? I am sure many ISG posters would scream out "it is worth everything!", just as many women would agree. Believe it or not I'm a closet romantic and hopelessly sentimental, so I would tend to agree.
Nonetheless, in many cultures love is equivalent to support. In Western cultures we are taught differently, however this fundamental value i.e. support is also prominent in our relationships, although considerably less so than in Asian cultures for example or in a sense, all third world cultures or poor societies.
I remember a specific incident in which I was meeting the mother of a serious girlfriend I had in Russia. Her mother hated me from the moment she met me and was very upset that I was even in my then gf's apartment... a no-no in conservative, traditional Russia. It was a very tense situation, as this small woman tore me apart with her icy glare and harsh words. She did utter a sentence however that stuck with me:
"Love is more than an emotion"
Meaning that passion, lust or even love is not necessarily the basis for a lasting relationship or successful partnership. Support and quality of life are just as important, as is humility and patience.
Perhaps humility and patience are what is lacking in today's couples.
Naked Gunz
09-04-08, 10:16
with me:
Perhaps humility and patience are what is lacking in today's couples.
Actually I concur with all you have written. Your not off topic, and the forum is about your opinion and I respect it. Having grown up watching the Brady Bunch, but certainly not living the Brady Bunch, I have a view of how I would like my life to be here in America as a married man. Romance is wonderful, but not enough.
My posts are directed to and in support of American men that have been screwded by the institution of marriage as a form of lotto to women that dont respect their vows, bring nothing to the table,and are cluless to the support of their man.
You think love is the deciding factor in a relationship? Do you really know what she is thinking in her evaluation of you? You were not listening to that girl trying to school you. Love is more than emotion she said. I knew a pastor that said "Love is a decision,not a feeling". It is exactly the same statement.
She was trying to tell you that have to accept all the bullsh*t that comes with being with her and f*ucking her. That's a decision more than feelings.
Feelings fade..Jeez I wish I had this wisdom 30 years ago!
Doctor_Skank
09-04-08, 11:18
You think love is the deciding factor in a relationship? Do you really know what she is thinking in her evaluation of you? You were not listening to that girl trying to school you. Love is more than emotion she said. I knew a pastor that said "Love is a decision,not a feeling". It is exactly the same statement.
She was trying to tell you that have to accept all the bullsh*t that comes with being with her and f*ucking her. That's a decision more than feelings.
Feelings fade..Jeez I wish I had this wisdom 30 years ago!Actually it was her mother trying to school me and I think my interpretation of what she said was correct. At least that is the vibe I was getting.
The girl herself was all passion and craziness (and one of the best lovers I've ever had, we had A+ chemistry), however her mother was the level-headed one.
At the end of the day, she was right. Shame when pessimism wins.
Generally speaking though, it seems to me that couples are very quick to pull the plug these days whereas in the past they stuck it out, for better or for worse. Whether or not that is a good thing depends on your perspective... :)
Men, meet your overlords...
Bango Cheito
09-05-08, 07:13
I'm sorry but I have to disagree here with Naked Gunz...
Here in Bogota, most people are economically far behind their US counterparts, but....
1) The rich here are EVERY BIT as rich as the American rich, except for their cost of living is MUCH lower. The top 5% or so of the population has a HELL of a lot of purchasing power here, in a way the average American couldn't even FATHOM.
2) MOST people here are not starving or homeless. There aren't any more homeless here by % than there are in any typical American city, which is a major miracle considering how fast this city has grown and how many of these people are internally displaced. There definitely are people who don't have enough to eat or are homeless or living in tin shacks, but the VAST majority of people here actually do have their basic needs for food, shelter, etc. met.
3) What people tend to lack here compared to their counterparts in the US would be mainly luxury items, especially anything to do with cars, also thinks like toys, electronics, broadband internet, in some of the poorer neighborhoods perhaps hot water.
Based on the above, I don't think a girl in Colombia is likely to fall head over heels over a foreigner just based on the idea that he will give her the basic needs. And from what I've seen in IRL the way some gringos come here and SHOWER money on these girls it's just fucking unbelievable.
So yes, I DO think there is a profound cultural difference, hell, I'd go further, there are lots of profound cultural differences within this country and this very city.
That's right. Not politics, not life in Colombia, not the price of yak butter in Nepal.
Here's an apropos quote from Al Bundy of "Married With Children", replying to some mean fat cow customer in his shoe store who called him a loser:
"So you think I'm a loser? Just because I have a stinking job that I hate, a family that doesn't respect me, a whole city that curses the day I was born? Well, that may mean loser to you, but let me tell you something. Every morning when I wake up, I know it's not going to get any better until I go back to sleep again. So I get up, have my watered down Tang and still-frozen Pop Tart, get in my car with no upholstery, no gas and six more payments to fight traffic just for the privilege of putting cheap shoes on the cloven hooves of people like you. I'll never play football like I thought I would, I'll never know the touch of a beautiful woman, and I'll never again know the joy of driving without a bag on my head. But I'm not a loser. 'Cause despite it all, me and every other guy who'll never be what he wanted to be, are still out there, being what we don't wanna be, forty hours a week, for life. And the fact that I haven't put a gun to my mouth, you pudding of a woman, makes me a winner!"
I am Daddy (mother-fucking) Warbucks and I approve this message. (Barack's evil twin).
Here's an apropos quote from Al Bundy of "Married With Children", replying to some fat cow customer in his shoe store who called him a loser:
"So you think I'm a loser? Just because I have a stinking job that I hate, a family that doesn't respect me, a whole city that curses the day I was born? Well, that may mean loser to you, but let me tell you something. Every morning when I wake up, I know it's not going to get any better until I go back to sleep again. So I get up, have my watered down Tang and still-frozen Pop Tart, get in my car with no upholstery, no gas and six more payments to fight traffic just for the privilege of putting cheap shoes on the cloven hooves of people like you. I'll never play football like I thought I would, I'll never know the touch of a beautiful woman, and I'll never again know the joy of driving without a bag on my head. But I'm not a loser. 'Cause despite it all, me and every other guy who'll never be what he wanted to be, are still out there, being what we don't wanna be, forty hours a week, for life. And the fact that I haven't put a gun to my mouth, you pudding of a woman, makes me a winner!"
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