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ThatGuy865
06-29-09, 05:44
...the average pino guy, who disrespects their women, will put a foot to their ass in a moments notice, probably doesn't earn but peanuts, doesn't know the first thing about saving for the future, and gets drunk every non working minute of the day. .
This from someone who ripped into me and others for daring to make unflattering generalizations about AW.What you left off also where I wrote:
(obviously not all pinoy men are like that but a large percentage are). .I've yet to read you say some or any AW are good to date.
You made 145 post and at least 140 of them have been nothing but bashing AW.
AW must have broke your heart and spirit bad to make you hate them that much. You've made it a mission.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124623617832566695.html
"Appealing to spouse-hunters has become quite a business in Japan, where marriage rates have plummeted in recent years."
"Government data show the percentage of unmarried people surged from 14% to 47% for men aged 30 to 34 and from 8% to 32% for women over the three decades ending in 2005."
"Experts say that in tough times, single women feel an urgency to get married for financial stability, while men tend to put off marriage until they feel they can afford it. "
"Yuriko Akamatsu, a 35-year-old office worker, has attended two matchmaking parties in the past six months. "I want to get married because I sometimes feel like quitting my job," said Ms. Akamatsu, who didn't find Mr. Right at either party. "Marriage is like permanent employment.""
DJ FourMoney
06-29-09, 21:01
what's this "i hate america" stuff illogic? you drinking some of that neo conservative grape kool-aid?
not supporting america's imperialistic aspirations is not anti-american.
that's all dh was saying...
the rest of it -
you must have yellow fever because you constantly focus on pi and compare its women with others around the world. when clearly pi has some trappings of western culture, it also has extreme poverty and hardly any middle class.
if you still have to work by choice while living in pi, you are not rich by any stretch when 1,000's of american's live well of fixed incomes in pi.
anyway i don't see how you can compared women in pi with american women when the dynamics are not the same. i would dare say that flips have no fascination with african-american men on home turf, you would have more success in western europe, eastern europe, canada or south america than many asian countries.
if your trying to balance low cost lifestyle with nice looking women, i think pi is on the bottom of the list unless like i said you have a thang for asian women....
you can't say with a straight face (maybe you can) that america is great, when its just so-so and unless we do a 180, will be the largest 3rd world country on the planet.
"I am always in the dodgy neighbhorhoods or bar areas. That is where you find *****s right?"
Maybe where you live. I, on the other hand, don't need to go to dodgy areas to find hookers as this is why the good lord created "privados" and "boliches" which in my neck of the woods are found in all areas, not just "dodgy" ones. In fact I now live in the wealthiest barrio of Buenos Aires (Recoleta) and it's chock full of hookers.
That's right Daddy Illogic Bigbucks. I can live in the wealthiest neighborhood in the city on $2000 Yew Ess a month while getting more ass than a toilet seat. It rocks.
what's this "i hate america" stuff illogic? you drinking some of that neo conservative grape kool-aid?
i am last one to wave the american the flag and say its the greatest thing on earth however i have been to a few other countries and so far i have not seen anything that i can say is better overall. when i do i will let you know.
not supporting america's imperialistic aspirations is not anti-american.
that's all dh was saying....
you don't have to support but do you have to bash the people and the country daily?
the rest of it -
you must have yellow fever because you constantly focus on pi and compare its women with others around the world. when clearly pi has some trappings of western culture, it also has extreme poverty and hardly any middle class..
have you ever been to the philippines? i compare pi to other countries because it is where i have lived the longest compared to other countries so its pretty much what i have to go on. has nothing to do with me having yellow fever.
the philippines does have a middle class and while that middle class is small it does have also pi has is an elite group that hangs out and lives in certain areas. that all but makes up for their miniature middle class. these elites bank accounts will blow the average middle class american away. anyway i don't know what pi classes has to do with me having asian fever. do you have jungle fever? since you always talking about white broads? i like what i like.
if you still have to work by choice while living in pi, you are not rich by any stretch when 1,000's of american's live well of fixed incomes in pi..
i have never said i was rich show me one quote where i said i was rich i said i earn six-figures. this rich stuff is something dh has conjured up in his head.
most americans living in pi our retired old men. i am in my 20s and i will retire into my early 30s. i could retire now if i wanted to but i would have to budget very carefully and i don't want to do that. there is still money to be made. i don't want to be like some guys here on this board working while i am in my 50s and beyond because i tried to retire to early.
anyway i don't see how you can compared women in pi with american women when the dynamics are not the same..
guys have compared all type of women on this board with american women. various asians, africans, europeans etc. non of the dynamics are the same if they were you guys wouldn't have much to talk about on this board.
i would dare say that flips have no fascination with african-american men on home turf, you would have more success in western europe, eastern europe, canada or south america than many asian countries..
i guess you are right here. filipinos are not so high on the brothers but as i stated i didn't move here by choice. i kind of ended up here and just settled. now i am just too rooted down.... multiple real-estate possessions, a vehicle etc...i have also just got used to the lifestyle.
if i did choose to live somewhere right about now i would be in my own damn country and just take trips aboard when i got bored. living in a foreign country is not all good by no stretch of the imagination and anyone who tells you otherwise is full of shit.
if your trying to balance low cost lifestyle with nice looking women, i think pi is on the bottom of the list unless like i said you have a thang for asian women.....
you are "talking out of ass.
the philippines has some of the most beautiful women in the world depending on a personal taste any wonder why men around the globe flock there to party. it is also one of the cheapest places to live as long you get out of manila. i like women in general..... have you read any of my reports from dubai?
you can't say with a straight face (maybe you can) that america is great, when its just so-so and unless we do a 180, will be the largest 3rd world country on the planet.
america is in no danger of becoming a third world country. i live in one and america is not even close.
dj with all due respect you been taking shots at me the last few post i have been trying to give you the benefit of the doubt...one because you are a brother as myself and second because you make no damn sense at all.
i have defended you countless times on this board and now you attack me in defense of this psychopath. your posts are based on nothing but assumptions and your perceived image of me. you and your son make no sense when debating unlike choca monger posts he makes you reflect but when you dh post i am always left wondering what fuck is going on :confused:
"i am always in the dodgy neighbhorhoods or bar areas. that is where you find *****s right?"
maybe where you live. i, on the other hand, don't need to go to dodgy areas to find hookers as this is why the good lord created "privados" and "boliches" which in my neck of the woods are found in all areas, not just "dodgy" ones.
i am glad dh there are no *****houses where i lay my head as *****houses tend to attract undesirable people.
in fact i now live in the wealthiest barrio of buenos aires (recoleta) and it's chock full of hookers.
that's right daddy illogic bigbucks. i can live in the wealthiest neighborhood in the city on $2000 yew ess a month while getting more ass than a toilet seat. it rocks.
i am happy for you dh. in pi $2000 "in rent only" would get you into the high-so places. you seem so proud you live next door to *****houses :confused: :d
i see after dj you finally the got the courage to respond to my post. :)
who's going to be the next contestant?
"I said I earn six-figures."
"I am in my 20s and I will retire into my early 30s. I could retire now if I wanted to."
Boy, you and I both picked very appropriate screen names (referring to your latest one anyway)
So let's do multiple choice:
a) anyone who makes six figures (over $100k US per year) is rich.
b) anyone who can retire and isn't even 30 is rich.
c) anyone who both makes six figures and has enough to retire is rich.
d) anyone who makes six figures, has enough to retire on, and lives in a gated community is rich.
e) all of the above.
I'm rich too, by any kind of reasonable world-wide standard, and I'd probably be richer if I just took the best-paying job without considering the morality and social value of what I am doing.
DJ, bro, you all set to retire? You making six figures?
Nah, me neither.
"I wouldn't call myself successful."
"A guy who comes from nothing and becomes rich is not sucessful?"
Dude, so are you successful or not? But no; someone who comes from nothing and becomes rich is only successful if they are happy. Look at Michael "I hate myself so much I had to get my skin bleached" Jackson. Look at Mike "I'm a disgwace and I'm gonna wetire" Tyson. Money don't buy happiness although of course poverty doesn't prove much either.
I'm making much less money than I did in Yew Ess and I'm much less successful career-wise (job's a total dead end) but I am much happier than I was living in the Yew Ess. Success!
DJ FourMoney
06-30-09, 07:22
I never said it would happen overnight, but we are getting closer and closer to a majority working poor class of people. It used to be you could do quite alright on 30K a year total, one job, one wife and two children.
Do I have Jungle Fever? I guess you could say that, Latinas don't like me (locally) for whatever reason and if you have been in LA or any other place with large population of Black Women you know good and well, the best looking ones are far from a dime a dozen.
I like ass and titties and those are hard to find on Asian women. If I loved petite women maybe I might be more into Asian women.
Personal attack? Strongly worded maybe but I didn't mean anything personal per say.
As for PI a co-worker of mine is Flip and we talk about "back home" quite a bit. He's visited home (Cebu) in the last 5 years and has lived full time in the US for 13 years. I have a fair idea what daily life is like back in PI, though it doesn't replace living there, you got me there but I never claimed to know every nut and bolt about PI.
DH I'm about as far away from retirement as I am to getting married. To retire and maintain a modern by US standards, standard of living, I would need at least a 401k and I cashed that out year's ago.
I hope to retire by 50, I got 11 years.....
DJ FourMoney
06-30-09, 07:27
"I wouldn't call myself successful."
"A guy who comes from nothing and becomes rich is not sucessful?"
Dude, so are you successful or not? But no; someone who comes from nothing and becomes rich is only successful if they are happy. Look at Michael "I hate myself so much I had to get my skin bleached" Jackson. Look at Mike "I'm a disgwace and I'm gonna wetire" Tyson. Money don't buy happiness although of course poverty doesn't prove much either.
I'm making much less money than I did in Yew Ess and I'm much less successful career-wise (job's a total dead end) but I am much happier than I was living in the Yew Ess. Success!
I agree with this... Poor from Rich takes more adjustment than Middle-Class to Rich, there isn't as big of a difference in lifestyle.
I'm trying to adjust my plan to get in more traveling since some are starting to complain I talk too much and not fuck enough, care to host me DH? lol
Clandestine782
06-30-09, 07:33
I never said it would happen overnight, but we are getting closer and closer to a majority working poor class of people. It used to be you could do quite alright on 30K a year total, one job, one wife and two children.
You might still be able to do OK on $30 per annum if you are careful. I don't know what time you are talking about that it was so easy to make it, though. Perhaps in the 1970s? But since you are predicting that we are getting closer to a majority of working class poor people, could you please give me (1) an idea of the rate at which we are moving and (2) this is based on which metric? The only reason I bring up this point is that I am now just in the middle of reading a great book on "The Tyranny of Numbers" that talks about how when people are making an assertion, they can't even be bothered to look up what they are asserting-- and even if they do, the numbers are just as likely to be incorrect as not.
Can you also let me know what are America's "Imperialistic Aspirations"? ("Imperialist" has to be one of the top 10 most misused words in the English language. Some of the others are "fascist" and "theory," but let's not get into that.)
First would like to apologize to DJ4M and DH and the American Women board for there is a better way to debate than without shooting off personal insults. I am emotional dude and I shoot from the hip sometime without taking a step back and looking at what I am saying. Also I think DH you have been on your tirade the last few post just to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off and you succeeded.
Now I will answer your last few questions/rebuttals:
"I said I earn six-figures."
"I am in my 20s and I will retire into my early 30s. I could retire now if I wanted to."
Boy, you and I both picked very appropriate screen names (referring to your latest one anyway)
So let's do multiple choice:
a) anyone who makes six figures (over $100k US per year) is rich.
b) anyone who can retire and isn't even 30 is rich.
c) anyone who both makes six figures and has enough to retire is rich.
d) anyone who makes six figures, has enough to retire on, and lives in a gated community is rich.
e) all of the above.
I'm rich too, by any kind of reasonable world-wide standard, and I'd probably be richer if I just took the best-paying job without considering the morality and social value of what I am doing.
DJ, bro, you all set to retire? You making six figures?
Nah, me neither.
Being rich is a relative term. Say a guy retired gets a pension of $2000 a month and he will get it for the rest of his life. While he doesn't have much to shake a stick at in his savings he doesn't have to work. Some would consider him rich.
Another person has saved up an odd amount of $100,000s. He can live off the interest of that money but his retirement would be dependent on what national interest rates is and he has to pray like hell a tragedy doesn't strike and knock down that lump sum of money because then that means a lower interest return but this guy by all intents and purposes still does not have to work.
Then you got the guy in my mind what I would call rich. The guy who has millions. Nothing can set him back. That is a rich guy. If that anit you you anit rich. Of course anyone of us if we don't watch our money can fall from grace Mike Tyson, MC Hammer are poster child's for that.
"I wouldn't call myself successful."
"A guy who comes from nothing and becomes rich is not sucessful?"
Dude, so are you successful or not? But no; someone who comes from nothing and becomes rich is only successful if they are happy. Look at Michael "I hate myself so much I had to get my skin bleached" Jackson. Look at Mike "I'm a disgwace and I'm gonna wetire" Tyson. Money don't buy happiness although of course poverty doesn't prove much either.
I'm making much less money than I did in Yew Ess and I'm much less successful career-wise (job's a total dead end) but I am much happier than I was living in the Yew Ess. Success!
In my mind if you "HAVE" to work for a living especially until your old as hell you are not successful. I don't care what your profession is. Once you can free yourself from the yolk of bondage that is work and enjoy your life 100%. I have friends who use to do the same work I do. They quit early now they are (bean counting) fuck that. I will slug it another 2-3 years. So can retire the right way.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bean+counter (2)
First would like to apologize to DJ4M and DH and the American Women board for there is a better way to debate than without shooting off personal insults. I am emotional dude and I shoot from the hip sometime without taking a step back and looking at what I am saying. Also I think DH you have been on your tirade the last few post just to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off and you succeeded.
Now I will answer your last few questions/rebuttals:
Being rich is a relative term. Say a guy retired gets a pension of $2000 a month and he will get it for the rest of his life. While he doesn't have much to shake a stick at in his savings he doesn't have to work. Some would consider him rich.
Another person has saved up an odd amount of $100,000s. He can live off the interest of that money but his retirement would be dependent on what national interest rates is and he has to pray like hell a tragedy doesn't strike and knock down that lump sum of money because then that means a lower interest return but this guy by all intents and purposes still does not have to work.
Then you got the guy in my mind what I would call rich. The guy who has millions. Nothing can set him back. That is a rich guy. If that anit you you anit rich. Of course anyone of us if we don't watch our money can fall from grace Mike Tyson, MC Hammer are poster child's for that.
In my mind if you "HAVE" to work for a living especially until your old as hell you are not successful. I don't care what your profession is. Once you can free yourself from the yolk of bondage that is work and enjoy your life 100%. I have friends who use to do the same work I do. They quit early now they are (bean counting) fuck that. I will slug it another 2-3 years. So can retire the right way.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bean+counter (2)There are more important things than material wealth. Ask Michael Jackson and all the other rich people who squandered their wealth and misdirected their talents. Greed kills. It is killing the U.S. of A., too. That's why I'll likely semi-retire in Ecuador, Cebu, Costa Rica or Argentina in about 15 years.
I like my job. It affords me the opportunity to travel for work and respectfully so. I'm a professor of management at a private university. I'm single. And I like big boobs.
IL, I am fine with you and don't feel personally insulted; it takes a lot to insult a Dickhead. I just find you somewhat contradictory. On the different handles, I just think it's a way to make it look like more people agree with you. I realize you are saying you didn't using them simultaneously. It's just when I found out you were Warbucks I said, hmm okay there really aren't two people out there who think this way.
"Another person has saved up an odd amount of $100,000s. He can live off the interest of that money but his retirement would be dependent on what national interest rates is and he has to pray like hell a tragedy doesn't strike and knock down that lump sum of money because then that means a lower interest return but this guy by all intents and purposes still does not have to work."
That was me until last fall, or anyway I thought I was real close. Sure glad I didn't retire. But I don't want to retire anyway especially given my job is such easy money and has such flexibility. I'd just turn into even worse of a drunk than I already am.
I don't really get early retirement. Look at baseball. Two schools of thought on that: retire at the top when you know your performance or motivation are slipping. Not too many of those any more but Sean Casey would be an example. The other school says, "make them rip the uniform off of you." Like Rickey Henderson. He always said he would play until nobody wanted him any more, and he did. I lean more towards that.
I mean, I doubt IL means he is going to retire at 31 and just pull his pud but men need to work. I have an ex-friend, college grad, perfectly healthy, ain't worked in ten years and just lets his fat AW wife support him. I finally couldn't be friends with him any more.
DJ you can crib with me if I got the space. Shoulda come last year when I was in the big house.
ThatGuy865
07-01-09, 01:02
It might be for a new thread but where would you guys retire or semi retire if you could.
DJ FourMoney
07-01-09, 09:29
IL, I am fine with you and don't feel personally insulted; it takes a lot to insult a Dickhead. I just find you somewhat contradictory. On the different handles, I just think it's a way to make it look like more people agree with you. I realize you are saying you didn't using them simultaneously. It's just when I found out you were Warbucks I said, hmm okay there really aren't two people out there who think this way.
"Another person has saved up an odd amount of $100,000s. He can live off the interest of that money but his retirement would be dependent on what national interest rates is and he has to pray like hell a tragedy doesn't strike and knock down that lump sum of money because then that means a lower interest return but this guy by all intents and purposes still does not have to work."
That was me until last fall, or anyway I thought I was real close. Sure glad I didn't retire. But I don't want to retire anyway especially given my job is such easy money and has such flexibility. I'd just turn into even worse of a drunk than I already am.
I don't really get early retirement. Look at baseball. Two schools of thought on that: retire at the top when you know your performance or motivation are slipping. Not too many of those any more but Sean Casey would be an example. The other school says, "make them rip the uniform off of you." Like Rickey Henderson. He always said he would play until nobody wanted him any more, and he did. I lean more towards that.
I mean, I doubt IL means he is going to retire at 31 and just pull his pud but men need to work. I have an ex-friend, college grad, perfectly healthy, ain't worked in ten years and just lets his fat AW wife support him. I finally couldn't be friends with him any more.
DJ you can crib with me if I got the space. Shoulda come last year when I was in the big house.
I just had to reply, I'll get to Clandestine in a min, I wanna make sure I have my facts straight...
Rickey Henderson is one of my all time MLB players, always talking in the 3rd person was always fun to listen too, best lead-off hitter to play the game period.
Sandberg retired at the top of his game, if your talking about modern day players.
I'm working on a South American plan now, I'll hatch something by the end of summer I think.
Sandberg, sort of:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/sandbry01.shtml?redir
He hit .238 and retired in mid-year and this is what he said:
"The reason I retired is simple: I lost the desire that got me ready to play on an everyday basis for so many years. Without it, I didn't think I could perform at the same level I had in the past, and I didn't want to play at a level less than what was expected of me by my teammates, coaches, ownership, and most of all, myself."
So that's exactly what I was talking about. Then he fucked it up by coming back for two sub-par seasons although the first one wasn't bad: 25 HR and 92 RBI but only a .244 average, way more strikeouts, and so forth. I actually was going to use him as an example until I remembered he had done this.
Especially not this crack ho:
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_12731991
So now these two morons have their reputations ruined (Niwot is not a big town) and this ho has her face in the paper.
Or, prostitution could be legalized and this nonsense would never have happened, What a waste of taxpayers' money. And, of course, the waste of resources has only just begun with the hospital bill which I am guessing these fucks are not going to pay.
And furthermore none of these people's names and pictures should be in the paper since two are apparently victims and the other is presumed innocent until proven guilty. And if one idiot is her wife, and if they drove to the hospital together, what is the chance of that happening? Bullshit and interviews and DA conferences, then bullshit and plea bargaining and lawyers (what do you think the chances the crack ho can pay a lawyer = public defender) and then some bullshit and probation and all with taxpayer money.
These kinky fuckers could go to Anchorena Swinger here in Buenos Aires and do all kinky shit they want for about a $17 cover charge, You Ess. Matter of fact they could probably all fly down here and do it for less than this little fuck up is going to cost them.
DJ FourMoney
07-02-09, 03:31
Sandberg, sort of:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/sandbry01.shtml?redir
He hit .238 and retired in mid-year and this is what he said:
"The reason I retired is simple: I lost the desire that got me ready to play on an everyday basis for so many years. Without it, I didn't think I could perform at the same level I had in the past, and I didn't want to play at a level less than what was expected of me by my teammates, coaches, ownership, and most of all, myself."
So that's exactly what I was talking about. Then he fucked it up by coming back for two sub-par seasons although the first one wasn't bad: 25 HR and 92 RBI but only a .244 average, way more strikeouts, and so forth. I actually was going to use him as an example until I remembered he had done this.
Actually Sandberg is an excellent example of the Modern Sports Athlete.
Jordan came back when many thought he shouldn't have and it would tarnish his legacy. In some respects it did, in others, some years later, do people in the public spear talk about his stint in Washington and the fact he like Glen Rice had turned into a Jump shooter because his slash and dash game wasn't there anymore?
We're talking about a player that avoided major injury for the majority of his career, he just didn't have the jump in this legs anymore at the end.
Let's face it, if your on the road 80+ days a year as a MLB player, former teammate Mark Grace said it best on Jim Rome years ago, when was explaining the term "Slump Busting". MLB players often have a woman or two in every town they visit, just like NBA and NFL players do.
He just got tired of being "Ryno" normal citizen and came back. You'll see more of that in the future as many players are wealthy beyond their dreams within their 2nd contract. Some just retire too soon...
I watched the All Star Game last season and I have been so deeply involved with College Football, NFL, NBA, European Road Racing and some NeckCAR the last 5-6 years, I hardly knew any of the players voted on the team.
Clandestine I have read "Confessions Of An Economic Hit Man" by John Perkins and wasn't surprised at all by what the United States has been doing in conjunction with the IMF and World Bank, especially in South America.
Why do you think there's this titanic shift to the left down there???
I like words and moving pictures, books take too long to read and I work too much, I think I need a Kindle 2...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W96GLQ8bpew Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPJB0hnUDHA Part 2
I read "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" too. Entertaining reading but a lot of bias involved. Just another guy sensationalizing an issue to make a buck. I am sure a lot of it is true but it's not well-researched or well-supported. A disgruntled ex-employee, albeit a bright and fairly credible one.
"He just got tired of being "Ryno" normal citizen and came back." Which is why I personally would take the Rickey/George Brunet/Warren Spahn/Pat Borders approach and play until I had absolutely pissed my last drop.
But actually, and to get back on the topic of American Women:
http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/story/2007/2/15/94017/8785
his AW wife who was fucking his teammates filed for divorce ten days after his (first) retirement. Man, fucking his teammates is just so very wrong on both sides. Maybe even worse on his teammates' side. Some lines you just don't cross. So do ya think maybe just maybe he came back because he needed the fucking money? Of course I am originally from Chicago so I remember this.
Sorry if this bursts a small little bubble for you bro. In fact he re-married the next year and "was encouraged by his family to un-retire."
http://www.spokane.net/sports/SportsProfile_RSandberg.aspx
I probably don't need to translate that to you but it could mean the second wife wanted to board the gravy train too.
Check it out! Getting married, I understand. Getting divorced, I understand. Getting married again, why?
THIS shit:
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_12738000
Furries? I admit that was a new one on me. Felching was bad enough.
Clandestine782
07-02-09, 06:24
Clandestine I have read "Confessions Of An Economic Hit Man" by John Perkins and wasn't surprised at all by what the United States has been doing in conjunction with the IMF and World Bank, especially in South America.
Why do you think there's this titanic shift to the left down there???
http://www.forbes.com/2009/06/02/middle-class-income-inequality-technology-opinions-columnists-taxes.html?partner=popstories
Capital
Has Rising Inequality Destroyed The Middle Class?
Thomas F. Cooley, 06.03.09, 12:01 AM ET
Everyone is worried about the American middle class. The decline of the American worker, and thus the middle class, is a key trope in economic downturns, amplified by the bankruptcy of General Motors and Chrysler and the loss of so many well-paid jobs in the manufacturing sector. For many commentators, this feels like the last straw. How much longer, they ask, can the U.S. weather the increasing gap between rich and poor without permanent damage to the social fabric?
But just how bad is it? One of the main problems in the debate is that opinions are advanced that are not backed by data. Interestingly enough--at least for an economist like me--the data tell a rather different kind of story.
Last year, someone sent me a book they thought would interest me. It was a good idea in principle, because the book dealt with labor markets and the plight of workers in the U.S. I looked forward to reading it, but it didn't take long before I threw it against the wall in exasperation. Instead of a data-driven analysis, it was a series of searing anecdotes about workplace injustice, low-paying, difficult jobs, bolstered by "facts" that were either incorrect or interpreted in a crazy way.
Clearly the individual costs of job loss, the tremendous difficulties of lives spent in poverty, should not be diminished. But anecdotes can't substitute for clear thinking.
One assertion in the book I just mentioned was that labor's share of the economic pie had sunk to its lowest level since 1929, with the companion assertion that corporations and CEOs were seizing a larger share of the economic pie for themselves, leaving labor greatly diminished. This is simply not true. Another assertion, this time true, is that American workers toil more hours per year than their French or German or other European counterparts. The author interprets this as evidence that our workers are being squeezed harder and that work is more brutal and demanding than it need be. That's not necessarily the case. A more orthodox--and to me, persuasive--explanation is that U.S. workers receive stronger incentives to work more hours.
Let's consider in more detail labor's share of the pie. This can be addressed using the National Income and Product Accounts. Despite the many emotional appeals to the contrary, it turns out that labor's share of output has remained remarkably constant at roughly 70% from 1950 through 2008. This calculation includes an estimate of the fraction of proprietors' income that is imputed to be labor income. (Slight variations in how one calculates it might lead to slightly different numbers but will not change the fact that has remained roughly constant for more than 50 years. There is some short-term variation over the business cycle, but no trend--and definitely not a decline. Robert J. Gordon of Northwestern has made similar observations in a number of papers.)
So, if labor's share isn't shrinking, what's going on? It's not the size of the share overall, but rather the inequality of distribution that has changed. Emmanuel Saez (this year's winner of the John Bates Clark award given to the best economist under 40) and Thomas Piketty have documented the evolution of income shares using data on income reported for tax purposes from 1913, when the federal income tax started, to 2006. Their data report the number of taxpayers and their total income and tax liability for a large number of income brackets. They combine this information with census and aggregate income data to show the evolution of incomes over time.
This is a wonderfully rich piece of work that will reward a careful reader. What emerges is a different kind of narrative that describes income changes of the top 10% relative to the bottom 90%. The share of income earned by the top 10% declined from a peak of nearly 50% in 1928, the height of the Roaring '20s, to a plateau of around 35% until about 1982. After that the share of the top 10% took off, reaching nearly 50% by 2006.
Even more interesting, as Saez's graph, below, demonstrates, is that it isn't even the top 10% but rather the top 1% where all of the action takes place.
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Now the narrative is less about the declining middle class and more about a gilded age of the super-rich. The middle feels as if it has lost ground because of the extraordinary wealth accumulated by the very, very few. But that suggests that the pie is a fixed size, and that is clearly not the case.
What triggered the gilded age of the late 20th century? There are extensive arguments in the literature about the impact of tax cuts, about extraordinarily high executive compensation in top management, and more. But the recent research does not seem to support these two as major causes. The most compelling argument for this dramatic increase in income has been technological change. Those with the human capital to take advantage of the new technology gained, and continue to gain, at the expense of those who don't have it. This is the "winner take all" phenomenon. In the 1920s, cutting- edge technology meant electrification. Hence the spike in income at the very top level. The fact that inequality has increased in most of the richest countries is also consistent with this explanation.
There is an important lesson for policy makers here. The psychic uncertainties triggered by perceived inequity need to be addressed because they can undermine the social consensus. But the public needs to be brought to an understanding that income growth is not a zero-sum game, and that participation can be expanded, based on investment in education and in human capital. Policies that stifle innovation in the interests of averting social discord are short-sighted in the extreme. On the contrary, greater innovation--and higher levels of educational investment--are what will prick the bubble of class envy.
Thomas F. Cooley, the Paganelli-Bull professor of economics and Richard R. West dean of the NYU Stern School of Business, writes a weekly column for Forbes. He is a contributor to a new book on the financial crisis entitled Restoring Financial Stability (Wiley, 2009).
Here is an article on the point of the vanishing middle class (about which you gave no evidence other than a brief mention of having read "Confessions of an Economic Hitman.")
As for the reason that Latin America is shifting to the left: I would say that they have always been prisoners of their own stupidity. None of this is new. Instability and governments in a status of flux are the status quo there (1) and what makes you think this is any different to what has been that way for a long time (2). Why is Europe shifting to the right? Do you think that their wealth gap is getting any less?
I don't even think it's true that Latin America is "shifting to the left." It is wobbling randomly and cyclically from right to left as it has always done since the collapse of colonialism. Colonialism was a rigid and structured system and its collapse left a vacuum to be filled by opportunists and charlatans from both right and left who seized power when the opportunity presented itself. In doing they were arguably only trying to best provide for their families and loved ones, especially if future generations were to be considered.
Essentially most Latin American politicians both now and historically remind me of the Senegalese and Angolans selling fake watches on the streets of Buenos Aires. Say and do what you need to do to feed your family. The politicians just earn better wages due to starting from a higher socioeconomic level.
Capital
Has Rising Inequality Destroyed The Middle Class?
Thomas F. Cooley, 06.03.09, 12:01 AM ET
Everyone is worried about the American middle class. The decline of the American worker, and thus the middle class, is a key trope in economic downturns, amplified by the bankruptcy of General Motors and Chrysler and the loss of so many well-paid jobs in the manufacturing sector. For many commentators, this feels like the last straw. How much longer, they ask, can the U.S. weather the increasing gap between rich and poor without permanent damage to the social fabric?
I think the chart below sums up the fucked up nature of unbridled(lax regulations) American Capitalism.
DJ FourMoney
07-02-09, 19:14
Either way and while I don't think one book blows up any one train of thought, it does highlight some "problems" with American Policy outside of America.
Clan is from the "Sink or Swim" - "I got mine, go get yours" heavy lean toward Libertarianism mindset.
I can accept that I guess and when (not IF) we get a strong public option for health care since my current employee(rs) won't provide such benefits or I deem them too expensive considering wage cuts and tripling of stock price since the latest CEO took over (Mostly done on the backs of wage and hour cuts) last year.
Whatever the point is, it all ties into how AW act and many of them still want a "Free Ride" when they won't hold up their side of the agreement nor would they sympathize when hours are cut, benefits cut and wages are pushed down.
Chocha Monger
07-02-09, 21:42
THIS shit:
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_12738000
Furries? I admit that was a new one on me. Felching was bad enough.
Dickhead, you've been in Argentina too long. Furry sex is big in the US. The fur can really fly at these furmeets. There was even a CSI episode featuring furry sex and violence complete with semen stained fur samples. These furries have orgies that take advantage of the anonymity provided by their costumes. You should look up some furries on your next visit to the US. You can dress up as a big red bull.
As for the story in the article, you'd have thought that the boy's mother would have figured things out when her son dressed up as a lamb and a 45 yr old woman in a cougar costume came by to pick him up.
Wow, thanks for enlightening me. That sounds awesome. I will be on the next plane back because most AWs would look way better if they were dressed up as a pig, rhinoceros, or hippopotamus.
Here is a picture of the woman in her pig costume:
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_12738000
Chocha Monger
07-03-09, 02:36
Here is a picture of the woman in her pig costume:
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_12738000
Quite realistic! I could not even tell that she was in a costume. Lots of American guys could be banging furries everyday without even knowing it.
Bango Cheito
07-03-09, 06:24
I have to say after having lived almost a year in Colombia now, I find many things about the USA more "third world" than here. You couldn't drag me back kicking and screaming at this point. I really don't get what people like so much about the US. I just thing they are delusional and seeing things as they were a long time ago.
I find it really silly the way people can point accusing fingers at people on here "well, YOU only make $2k a month so your opinion can't possibly be worth anything".... does anybody actually BELIEVE that?
Chocha Monger
07-03-09, 06:57
I have to say after having lived almost a year in Colombia now, I find many things about the USA more "third world" than here. You couldn't drag me back kicking and screaming at this point. I really don't get what people like so much about the US. I just thing they are delusional and seeing things as they were a long time ago.
I find it really silly the way people can point accusing fingers at people on here "well, YOU only make $2k a month so your opinion can't possibly be worth anything".... does anybody actually BELIEVE that?
Bango,
I don’t believe that you can value someone’s opinion based on their income. If it is one thing that I learned in doing business in the US it’s that relationships have a lot more to do with job positions and salaries than intelligence or knowledge. I saw hippie with a severe case of meth mouth given a director’s position based on his relationship with the account manager. He, by his own admission, did not finish high school because it was more fun playing hooky and getting high. However, he was given the job based on his “experience.” His salary was more than what was paid to bright young minority managers with college degrees. They didn’t have the same relationship with the boss. After a few months the hippie failed miserably at his job. The client demanded his removal and the account manager sent him off to another location in a much lesser capacity. Had their relationship not existed the hippie would have been shit canned. So income doesn’t always serve as a metric of value when it comes to opinions.
Today a Canadian friend sent me this:
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090702/koddities/20090702us_screaming_sex_arrests
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A group of teenagers misunderstood a woman's screams during sex and, thinking they were stopping an assault, beat a 25-year-old man in her bedroom, police said....
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Next time think if you wanna have sex in North America:)
Chocha Monger
07-03-09, 07:27
Today a Canadian friend sent me this:
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090702/koddities/20090702us_screaming_sex_arrests
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A group of teenagers misunderstood a woman's screams during sex and, thinking they were stopping an assault, beat a 25-year-old man in her bedroom, police said....
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Next time think if you wanna have sex in North America:)
It's interesting that it was the 16 yr old girl who rounded up the lynch mob. That is the typical AW heroine mentality. She didn't even think of calling the police. That poor woman had to be saved from the evil prick who was fucking her to death.
Chocha Monger
07-03-09, 14:25
It seems like good ole Gov. Sanford was mongering all along before acquiring his Argentine fucklet. Investigators are checking his travel records. It should be interesting to see what they discover. ISG members may have been "blowing off steam" with the governor without even knowing it.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/30/sanford-says-crossed-lines-women-mistress/
An interesting article-advice by an Aussie guy about dating Russian women, how not to get gold diggers and how it compares to USA and Asian women, and which(Russian or Asian) women one should date and why.
From his point of view, women from different places are different and I think he makes a lot of sense and it can be applicable to Latin America women too, although some guys here might get offended and disagree.
http://www.expatfocus.com/expatriate-russia-experiences
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There are gold diggers there, but about as many as in the US or many other countries. However, if you are a money-oriented person, and think that you will impress people with your money- you will attract just that- a person who will use you for your money. Isn’t logical? Many Americans are money-driven, and they think that if they are successful businessmen and are into careers, Russian women will like them. In other words, they approach Russian women the way they would approach American women. I am this and that and I have this car and this house, do you like me now? Sure, a gold digger will be the one who likes you. Then, do not complain when you get taken for a ride.
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However, if you go there and do not make adjustments, are always in a hurry, always talking about business and money, do not respect their ways, and do not learn Russian, you will only find the woman that is interested in a money-making man- in other words, “an American woman from Russia” so to speak.
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If you are, however, a lupine businessman type whose only interest is making big bucks and who has no time for soulfulness, humour, culture and romantic aestheticism, don’t go to Russia. Your choice should be Chinese girls. From China, Singapore, Hong Kong and Malaysia. Or the Vietnamese ones. Even the Japanese. These do not like jokers or funny, friendly guys, as a rule. These are seen as not worthy of respect. They like sullen-looking, glum and busy fat cats. These will be running business with you, working hard and being happy with you the way you are. You will find no gold diggers among those as a rule- mostly good business partners and good wives. Just make sure you are really successful and are making good money. And working your rear off for 12-15 hours a day.
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I dunno about the rest of this shit but I guarantee you:
"If you are, however, a lupine businessman type whose only interest is making big bucks and who has no time for soulfulness, humour, culture and romantic aestheticism, don’t go to Russia. Your choice should be Chinese girls. From China, Singapore, Hong Kong and Malaysia. Or the Vietnamese ones. Even the Japanese. These do not like jokers or funny, friendly guys, as a rule. These are seen as not worthy of respect. They like sullen-looking, glum and busy fat cats. These will be running business with you, working hard and being happy with you the way you are. You will find no gold diggers among those as a rule- mostly good business partners and good wives. Just make sure you are really successful and are making good money. And working your rear off for 12-15 hours a day."
this is not what Latinas are looking for.
Chocha Monger
07-06-09, 04:12
A few days ago the story of opportunities to be a "duck" servicing wealthy Chinese women came up in the China General Info thread. Now, I've found yet another work opportunity for mongers in Asia, Rent-A-Groom.
http://chao-vietnam.********.com/2009/07/rent-groom.html
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-steve-mcnair6-2009jul06,0,269087.story
RIP, bro. Should have come down here and mongered anonymously in a "privado" instead of dragging your family through the mud. BTW that condo those two guys had would be called a "bulo" down here.
Chocha Monger
07-06-09, 19:06
Female sex tourist flock to Caribbean to enjoy rental dreads:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgZN0g0a6hI
“80,000 white female sexual predators flock to the Caribbean islands each year to molest and abuse the 'Big Bamboos' of illiterate, poverty stricken 'rent-a-rastas'. Unsurprisingly, feminists don't seem to object to this form of sexual tourism”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73hMlCz4450&feature=related
A woman prepares for her journey in search of the big bamboo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ_mXYuTxEA&feature=related
DJ FourMoney
07-06-09, 20:56
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-steve-mcnair6-2009jul06,0,269087.story
RIP, bro. Should have come down here and mongered anonymously in a "privado" instead of dragging your family through the mud. BTW that condo those two guys had would be called a "bulo" down here.
Yep I watched Steve when he was getting close to breaking some of the BYU records for points scored, touchdown pass touchdown runs, etc at Alcorn St.
He picked up this tramp at Dave and Buster's of all places...
Her picture is making its rounds on the internet since she was picked up for a DUI in her new "Caddy Truck" a few days or weeks earlier.
Its a shame...
DJ FourMoney
07-06-09, 20:58
Female sex tourist flock to Caribbean to enjoy rental dreads:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgZN0g0a6hI
“80,000 white female sexual predators flock to the Caribbean islands each year to molest and abuse the 'Big Bamboos' of illiterate, poverty stricken 'rent-a-rastas'. Unsurprisingly, feminists don't seem to object to this form of sexual tourism”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73hMlCz4450&feature=related
A woman prepares for her journey in search of the big bamboo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ_mXYuTxEA&feature=related
Not surprised at all, I know a young white woman up in NoCal, that went down to Jamaica and got knocked up by some Rasta, she's on IR dating sites, mmm I'd say she likes getting "Rooted"...
DJ FourMoney
07-06-09, 21:09
I dunno about the rest of this shit but I guarantee you:
"If you are, however, a lupine businessman type whose only interest is making big bucks and who has no time for soulfulness, humour, culture and romantic aestheticism, don’t go to Russia. Your choice should be Chinese girls. From China, Singapore, Hong Kong and Malaysia. Or the Vietnamese ones. Even the Japanese. These do not like jokers or funny, friendly guys, as a rule. These are seen as not worthy of respect. They like sullen-looking, glum and busy fat cats. These will be running business with you, working hard and being happy with you the way you are. You will find no gold diggers among those as a rule- mostly good business partners and good wives. Just make sure you are really successful and are making good money. And working your rear off for 12-15 hours a day."
this is not what Latinas are looking for.
I'd say that is not what a majority of any women want actually.
On the surface many AW like their rich husbands' wallets and bank accounts, but loathe the long hours away from the house, sometimes 10-14 hours a day, 5-6 days a week, business trips usually aren't popular either, since many on this forum are such married business travelers, I'm sure they can agree.
Many AW are looking for somebody (like in Russia or Ukraine) to quote "Take Them Away From All Of This..."
On the surface he's right though...
Chocha Monger
07-07-09, 00:06
Not surprised at all, I know a young white woman up in NoCal, that went down to Jamaica and got knocked up by some Rasta, she's on IR dating sites, mmm I'd say she likes getting "Rooted"...
DJ,
Since you like white women you should seriously consider growing some dreads, moving to Negril, Jamaica and marketing your rentables. You get to spend all day on the beach and root for a fee. It sure beats the cold German weather and paying to root on the clock in FKK. Some of tourists were actually young and not shabby looking. The same type that would turn you down in the club in the US but pay you for a root in Negril.
Yah mon dis be bery good idea and Jamaica be Eiree. Doan drive too fast over the sleeping policeman mon. That be bullshitness.
I knew a musician who played around the bars in the late 70s and early 80s and he talked that kind of shit and claimed to be from British Honduras (now Belize). He was actually from Kansas City but he got more ass than a toilet seat.
ThatGuy865
07-07-09, 04:06
Most of them boys have hard bodies, dicks hanging low and will fuck just about anything walking. First of all, culturally speaking they love big women. Thats the carribean way. So you guys who complain about fat obese AW wouldn't stand a chance, They fucking exactly the kind most of you pass up. Thats why the AW are going there, Caribean guys don't discriminate against fat, ugly women. Yeah there are a few good looking ones. But for the most part. They are exactly what most of you don't want.
If you are, however, a lupine businessman type whose only interest is making big bucks and who has no time for soulfulness, humour, culture and romantic aestheticism, don’t go to Russia. Your choice should be Chinese girls...Even the Japanese. These do not like jokers or funny, friendly guys, as a rule. These are seen as not worthy of respect. They like sullen-looking, glum and busy fat cats. These will be running business with you, working hard and being happy with you the way you are. You will find no gold diggers among those as a rule- mostly good business partners and good wives. Just make sure you are really successful and are making good money...******
A Japanese lady currently adores me. I welcome her eating/drinking in my car while her stick-up-the-ass ex-husband strictly forbade such. She appreciates my being cultured, romantic, creative, funny, and supportive of her dreams (as she is of mine!). Yet at the same time she appreciates how I resemble her very traditional old-school Japanese father by being chivalrous & protective. She could give a rat's ass how much money I make. A welcome contrast to AW, three of whom dumped me for the sole reason being how much I earn. I feel loved!
Chocha Monger
07-07-09, 14:33
Most of them boys have hard bodies, dicks hanging low and will fuck just about anything walking. First of all, culturally speaking they love big women. Thats the carribean way. So you guys who complain about fat obese AW wouldn't stand a chance, They fucking exactly the kind most of you pass up. Thats why the AW are going there, Caribean guys don't discriminate against fat, ugly women. Yeah there are a few good looking ones. But for the most part. They are exactly what most of you don't want.
Now you’re making shit up just to be contrarian. It is as much their culture to love fat old white women as it is the culture of 18 yr old Filipinas to love 60 yr old white guys. In case you didn’t notice it was the poor guys who didn’t have any money who were SELLING their dicks to the old heifers on the beach. It is no different than a young impoverished provincial Filipina selling her ass to some old foreign guy. It doesn’t have shit to do with their “culture” as you claim. It has everything to do with SURVIVAL. They’re prostitutes. They’re not screwing these women for love. They do it for money so of course it doesn’t matter if they happen to be fat old and ugly. Those are the ones who will probably pay more. Just because you sell a service to someone doesn’t mean you love them. You don’t discriminate because you’re paid not to.
In case you didn’t know the Caribbean is not a homogeneous society. The Caribbean is made up of several island nations that were colonized by different European powers. Each island state has its own culture and languages spoken can vary from English, Spanish, Dutch, and French to local dialects consisting of African and Amerindian languages. So which of these cultures are you claiming to have a liking for fat cows?
Gentleman Travel
07-07-09, 15:08
To change the subject a bit, last weekend we had a massive festival in my city - 100,000 people out in the hot summer sun, showing their patriotic pride and sun-baked flesh. It was a good opportunity to observe local female flesh. It was not a happy sight.
Amongst the thousands and thousands of young women I saw, I was shocked by how few were actually worth looking at - and these are girls in short-shorts and skimpy tops, having fun.
For a start, many (perhaps most) were overweight and/or unkempt.
The ones with nice tits often also had more belly that is pleasantly displayed with a halter top. Even the ones who, upon closer study, had the desired physical attributes were dressed so casually or sloppily that their charms were somewhat disguised.
While there were many (a few percent) who were "doable" from the POV of a 50 year old guy, out of the thousands there were only a few dozen real beauties and maybe only a couple of head-turners.
Whereas had I been walking down a major street in Kyiv or Moscow on a summers day I would expect to get whiplash every few steps!
Sometimes I think we are too harsh about American Women, and unfairly compare our wives, ex-wives and office colleagues to younger beautiful women in other countries, because we do not usually mix with 20 year olds in our own country.
But occasions like this festival persuade me that it is not all about age difference and the availability of younger foreign women. There is a real difference in the physical fitness, beauty and especially the style (fashion sense, dressing sexy) of many types of foreign women - for me, Eastern Europeans, but for others of you, Thais or Phillipinos or Brazilleans.
Now I do not pretend that the men or boys at this festival were any visual feast either, but then as mongers overseas we are not usually relying on our physical beauty for success, but rather charm, style and money.
Most of them boys have hard bodies, dicks hanging low and will fuck just about anything walking. First of all, culturally speaking they love big women. Thats the carribean way. So you guys who complain about fat obese AW wouldn't stand a chance, They fucking exactly the kind most of you pass up. Thats why the AW are going there, Caribean guys don't discriminate against fat, ugly women. Yeah there are a few good looking ones. But for the most part. They are exactly what most of you don't want.
Let me just say this, you have White Women of all AGES, SHAPES and SIZES from Europe, North America, etc, some beautiful and some not, trouping down to the Caribbean Islands to get fucked by Black Stallions. I know because I've seen it with my own two eyes. As soon as these women arrive, they go into sexual predatory mode looking for action. Looks are of no concern, the "Blacker" the better.
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Originally Posted by Thatgay865
Most of them boys have hard bodies, dicks hanging low and will fuck just about anything walking. First of all, culturally speaking they love big women. Thats the carribean way. So you guys who complain about fat obese AW wouldn't stand a chance, They fucking exactly the kind most of you pass up. Thats why the AW are going there, Caribean guys don't discriminate against fat, ugly women. Yeah there are a few good looking ones. But for the most part. They are exactly what most of you don't want
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Now you’re making shit up just to be contrarian. It is as much their culture to love fat old white women as it is the culture of 18 yr old Filipinas to love 60 yr old white guys. In case you didn’t notice it was the poor guys who didn’t have any money who were SELLING their dicks to the old heifers on the beach. It is no different than a young impoverished provincial Filipina selling her ass to some old foreign guy. It doesn’t have shit to do with their “culture” as you claim. It has everything to do with SURVIVAL. They’re prostitutes. They’re not screwing these women for love. They do it for money so of course it doesn’t matter if they happen to be fat old and ugly. Those are the ones who will probably pay more. Just because you sell a service to someone doesn’t mean you love them. You don’t discriminate because you’re paid not to.
In case you didn’t know the Caribbean is not a homogeneous society. The Caribbean is made up of several island nations that were colonized by different European powers. Each island state has its own culture and languages spoken can vary from English, Spanish, Dutch, and French to local dialects consisting of African and Amerindian languages. So which of these cultures are you claiming to have a liking for fat cows?In general I agree about SELLING their dicks. Similar things happen in Turkey, Tunisia, Egypt, etc.. European women go to vacations and get fucked by locals. I've read that even 60+ y.o women have romance with those guys. I'm kinda happy for those women, since they cant do it anymore at home.
Sometimes girls do it as a "revenge". A friend of one my girlfriend went to Tunisia and got fucked by 3 local guys at once. She was really pissed at her ex husband at that time. And that girl is really good-looking, early 20s, above average.
But "culture" may have something to do which women are liked by man.
In some cultures fatter women can be considered more beautiful and desirable.
On my friend in Curacao likes fat ass dark girls. One time he stopped his car to flirt with a woman I would not come closer than a mile even if she pays me 100K. Then he told me "see, how hot and beautiful she is".
I also saw on TV about some African country where a girl has to gain a lot of weight before she can get married, it take her about several months to a year not to do anything and just eat to become "beautiful" enough.
I think in some poor countries a fatter woman means more food(money and thus health.
In "American Culture" men also like fatter women but for a different reason - for the lack of better women. Many guys think its a norm.
To change the subject a bit, last weekend we had a massive festival in my city - 100,000 people out in the hot summer sun, showing their patriotic pride and sun-baked flesh. It was a good opportunity to observe local female flesh. It was not a happy sight.
Amongst the thousands and thousands of young women I saw, I was shocked by how few were actually worth looking at - and these are girls in short-shorts and skimpy tops, having fun.
For a start, many (perhaps most) were overweight and/or unkempt.
The ones with nice tits often also had more belly that is pleasantly displayed with a halter top. Even the ones who, upon closer study, had the desired physical attributes were dressed so casually or sloppily that their charms were somewhat disguised.
While there were many (a few percent) who were "doable" from the POV of a 50 year old guy, out of the thousands there were only a few dozen real beauties and maybe only a couple of head-turners.
Whereas had I been walking down a major street in Kyiv or Moscow on a summers day I would expect to get whiplash every few steps!...
Amen brother. I too went in my city to a huge music festival over the holiday. All ages, ethnicities, and classes were represented. I was truly disgusted by what I saw. Out of the tens of thousands I personally viewed, I'd say 5% were doable, 1.5% beautiful, and 0.2% jaw-dropping head-turners. Contrast that view with similar events I've been to in Colombia, Japan, China, and E. Europe. Like another world. Striking. No comparison.
Goga Fung you are right. American men find these slovenly fatties acceptable either because they believe they have no choice or they are simply ignorant of alternatives, being poorly-traveled. Either way, the bar is set so low here. Not as if men here are any prize either, but that doesn't affect me so much.
ThatGuy865
07-08-09, 02:31
A Japanese lady currently adores me. I welcome her eating/drinking in my car while her stick-up-the-ass ex-husband strictly forbade such. She appreciates my being cultured, romantic, creative, funny, and supportive of her dreams (as she is of mine!). Yet at the same time she appreciates how I resemble her very traditional old-school Japanese father by being chivalrous & protective. She could give a rat's ass how much money I make. A welcome contrast to AW, three of whom dumped me for the sole reason being how much I earn. I feel loved!So are you saying there aren't materialistic Japanese women? (You know and I know better than that). Or did you just find ONE that happen not to be that way. Just like I'm sure there is an american guy who can say the exact same thing about his american women.
ThatGuy865
07-08-09, 02:40
Now you’re making shit up just to be contrarian. It is as much their culture to love fat old white women as it is the culture of 18 yr old Filipinas to love 60 yr old white guys. In case you didn’t notice it was the poor guys who didn’t have any money who were SELLING their dicks to the old heifers on the beach. It is no different than a young impoverished provincial Filipina selling her ass to some old foreign guy. It doesn’t have shit to do with their “culture” as you claim. It has everything to do with SURVIVAL. They’re prostitutes. They’re not screwing these women for love. They do it for money so of course it doesn’t matter if they happen to be fat old and ugly. Those are the ones who will probably pay more. Just because you sell a service to someone doesn’t mean you love them. You don’t discriminate because you’re paid not to.
In case you didn’t know the Caribbean is not a homogeneous society. The Caribbean is made up of several island nations that were colonized by different European powers. Each island state has its own culture and languages spoken can vary from English, Spanish, Dutch, and French to local dialects consisting of African and Amerindian languages. So which of these cultures are you claiming to have a liking for fat cows?You obviously don't know any carribeans. They are notoriously known for liking big women. Throughout the islands Rich or poor. They like big women. Have you been to Jamaican. If you see big women. They all have boyfriends. Blacks in general like big women. For the most part. No matter when they live. Most Blacks like women with meat on their bones. Does that mean every single black likes big women (of course not. Their are exceptions to every rule) But for the most part. Blacks like big ole booties, and big ole titties.
ThatGuy865
07-08-09, 02:53
Let me just say this, you have White Women of all AGES, SHAPES and SIZES from Europe, North America, etc, some beautiful and some not, trouping down to the Caribbean Islands to get fucked by Black Stallions. I know because I've seen it with my own two eyes. As soon as these women arrive, they go into sexual predatory mode looking for action. Looks are of no concern, the "Blacker" the better.I agree. And what I'm saying is Those guys don't discriminate. They will Fuck the shit out of a Fat white babe just as quick. If not quicker than a skinny babe. When not one of you no matter how broke you were would not touch the fat babe. Thats why they travel there. There is black dick to be found all over europe and the USA But the majority that go there for dick are not only fat but average to ugly.
So yes while there are some fine white women who go there. Lets face it Fine women don't have to travel to get dick. So there is no way that its a 50/50 split of fine women to fat women going there for dick.
Lets face it how many cameron diaz, angelina jolie types really need to travel to get dick. Maybe an old 50 year old angelina "used to be" jolie. But not a young one.
Chocha Monger
07-08-09, 06:55
You have blacks all figured out, right? Well here are some Meat Loaf posts that say you haven't got a clue.
You obviously don't know any carribeans. They are notoriously known for liking big women. Throughout the islands Rich or poor. They like big women. Have you been to Jamaican. If you see big women. They all have boyfriends.
Hmm... so you saw some big women with black Jamaican guys and you made some assumptions like a typical American tourist. But Meat Loaf exposed you at home.
In fact, you (ie. You) know very few Black people other than athletes, musicians, and actors. Or you may know a few Black people at work who are your subbordinates. Besides these locals, you have no exposure, for the most part. Of course, this is a generalization, but another truth delivered by Meat Loaf.
The "average" Black person has many white friends, while the "average" white person has 1-Black friend. LOL.
Blacks in general like big women. For the most part. No matter when they live. Most Blacks like women with meat on their bones. Does that mean every single black likes big women (of course not. Their are exceptions to every rule) But for the most part. Blacks like big ole booties, and big ole titties.
Really! Because Mr Loaf says you're a liar.
Lastly, I don't want some Big Fat White Girl that thinks Black guys like fat girls 'cause Black girls have big muscular asses. Muscle and fat are very different. Instead, she can chase some "coon (ie. definition http://www.ferris.edu/jimcrow/coon/) while I continue to break glass-ceilings internationally.
Nice try though but I live in the Dirty South so I know you're not inviting black guys like Mr Loaf over for dinner. Would you let Mr Loaf meat the female members of your family? Why doesn't DJ4money, Illogic and other black forum members like big fat women? I couldn't find a single post asking where the fat hoes at.
Lets face it Fine women don't have to travel to get dick. So there is no way that its a 50/50 split of fine women to fat women going there for dick.
Lets face it how many cameron diaz, angelina jolie types really need to travel to get dick. Maybe an old 50 year old angelina "used to be" jolie. But not a young one.
FYI, many good looking horny White women travel to the Islands for SEX. It's an ideal situation, to try out the "Black Stick" away from the scrutiny of family and friends.
I'll tell you this if the Cameron Diaz's, Angelina Jolie types are not getting sexually satisfied, guess what, these women will stray looking for guys who will meet their sexual needs.
I'm told by some White gals, into the swingers lifestyle, that Black, Latino guys are in HIGH demand at our local Swing clubs. These women are not bad looking at all.
DJ FourMoney
07-08-09, 18:08
DJ,
Since you like white women you should seriously consider growing some dreads, moving to Negril, Jamaica and marketing your rentables. You get to spend all day on the beach and root for a fee. It sure beats the cold German weather and paying to root on the clock in FKK. Some of tourists were actually young and not shabby looking. The same type that would turn you down in the club in the US but pay you for a root in Negril.
LOL, You know I never thought of that, but I should tell my boy to do that since he's being growing dreads since the early 90's and many woman find his hair interesting....
I guess I finally know what "Root Down" means.
DJ FourMoney
07-08-09, 18:41
ThatGuy has no creditability...
Blacks are not monolithic and while that's a problem on several levels socially, its not a correct view of people with limited exposure to Black culture and people.
I'm not shocked by what GT or Yogin saw at all. Working in a very normal customer service/service sector environment, I see this shit all the time. Most of the younger women are dressed down to downplay their "assets" when that never happens in Europe. Quite a few "sows" are running around, usually with Husband in tow, which I have to just shake my head.
Other times I see tatted up losers with nice looking women, what in the world is attractive about that??? Yes its those same flat brimmed ball cap wearing, tatted up, lifted 4x4 driving guys I know those in America have seen at one time or another, or maybe that's a SoCal thing...
Like I said Thatguy has no credibility because Yogin knows that many Japanese women are materialistic, hell I know that. That however doesn't mean all of them and they by culture and diet tend to be much thinner than their American counterparts and far more sexual than one would expect from such a "conservative" culture.
I still say any 10 women outside of America are better than deck being stacked against you here.
[Sigh...] ThatGuy, I've had the same or similar experience with several other Japanese women as with the current one. They are EASY to find. Many friends report nearly identical experiences as mine. Of course there are materialistic shrews in Japan as there are here. All I and many others are saying is that of course there are a few decent AW. But the comparative numbers and percentages dictate that it is much much harder to find them, so therefore is not worth the trouble. That's all.
And on behalf of my family members who are black, I am offended at your ridiculous blanket generalizations about black men. I know plenty who find fat women to be revolting.
I think you are spouting all of this just for attention. Because I seriously doubt you will change anyone's minds on here with your arguments. And all of these millions of beautiful loving intelligent sex-loving spiritual non-materialistic AW to whom you give such unqualified endorsement and promotion, how might they view YOU knowing you post on a site such as this? Might they be charitable and open-minded towards you?
This is the last time I will respond to anything you say. I suggest others do the same. Thanks CM that's a great idea that I had forgotten about. I'll place on "ignore".
Yeah, again regarding my experience at the holiday weekend festival here: while there may have been more good-looking women than the ones I noticed, I couldn't see them because they were so dressed down in ugly slovenly ill-fitting unflattering clothes/accessories and made no effort with their hair etc. Go to most other places in the world and girls make an effort to look decent even if all they are doing is going to the grocery store.
DJ FourMoney
07-08-09, 20:23
[Sigh...] ThatGuy, I've had the same or similar experience with several other Japanese women as with the current one. Many friends report nearly identical experiences as mine. Of course there are materialistic shrews in Japan as there are here. All I and many others are saying is that of course there are a few decent AW. But the comparative numbers and percentages dictate that it is much much harder to find them, so therefore is not worth the trouble. That's all.
And on behalf of my family members who are black, I am offended at your ridiculous blanket generalizations about black men.
I am starting to think you are spouting all of this just for attention. This is the last time I will respond to anything you say. I suggest others do the same.
Yeah, again regarding my experience at the holiday weekend festival here: while there may have been more good-looking women than the ones I noticed, I couldn't see them because they were so dressed down in ugly unflattering clothes/accessories and made no effort with their hair etc. Go to many other places in the world and girls make an effort to look decent even if all they are doing is going to the grocery store.
Cha-Ching...
This whole "Girl Power" thing has empowered women to try and downplay their looks in America. I see more women wearing jeans, baggy and otherwise and long male t-shirts to cover up breast. Like I said, the rare time most women expose their legs it draws unwanted attention in their eyes.
I mean c'mon there is such a thing as a beautiful and intelligent woman, but I think that phase has been hijacked by the Beauty Pageant Industry where the two never shall meet in real life, see Carrie Prejean
We keep harping on some issues, but it bares repeating again -
The deck is stacked against you...
Chocha Monger
07-08-09, 21:03
Gentlemen:
As you all know we debated with Thatgay865 concerning various aspects in regards to American women. It is clear that he/she has a pro-feminist agenda and will say anything to defend it. When he/she was confronted with the facts on some of the most repugnant character flaws of American women he/she declared that he/she was going to take his/her pimply ass out of the discussion. That was after the discussion in which he/she woulda shoulda coulda got laid in California. Thereafter, he/she has routinely dropped by to make wild unsubstantiated claims against foreign women and in defense of American women. However, his/her comments increasingly demonstrated a lack of any credibility. After his/her blanket statements declaring all Filipinas to be liars as long as their lips were moving and that black men irrespective of where they live like fat heifers, I just had to add he/she to my ignore list. I suggest that you do the same unless you enjoy pointless debate based on stereotypes.
Regards,
CM
Gentlemen:
As you all know we debated with Thatgay865 concerning various aspects in regards to American women. It is clear that he/she has a pro-feminist agenda and will say anything to defend it. When he/she was confronted with the facts on some of the most repugnant character flaws of American women he/she declared that he/she was going to take his/her pimply ass out of the discussion. That was after the discussion in which he/she woulda shoulda coulda got laid in California. Thereafter, he/she has routinely dropped by to make wild unsubstantiated claims against foreign women and in defense of American women. However, his/her comments increasingly demonstrated a lack of any credibility. After his/her blanket statements declaring all Filipinas to be liars as long as their lips were moving and that black men irrespective of where they live like fat heifers, I just had to add he/she to my ignore list. I suggest that you do the same unless you enjoy pointless debate based on stereotypes.
Regards,
CMThat's really funny. It looks like the only way ThatGuy can get laid is using cheap tiny submissive Filipinas, but for some reason he wants to show that everyone else does not know shit, how good American Woman are and how come nobody else sees that...
Also a really "profound" statement about Russian women:
"So let me enlighten you on one thing. As I previously stated. You can enjoy all those pale fish belly white slavic hoes. I wouldn't go to Russia if you paid for it. Well maybe if you paid, but only to see the city, culture and to say I been there done that and one time only. Not for the women. Pale ass white women don't do anything for me."
How could someone who has not been to Russia say that:)
And about losers under 35:
"I stated, I felt, and mainly still do that men under 35 that use P4P as their ONLY/PRIMARY means for getting sex are losers. "
If I remember correctly I became a hopeless loser at 25:) BTW I just came back from a vacation with a girlfriend. But actually I wish that I would go to RIO alone and did P4P instead of this vacation with free sex.
Gentlemen: I just had to add he/she to my ignore list. I suggest that you do the same unless you enjoy pointless debate based on stereotypes.
Regards,
CM
......consider it done.
ThatGuy865
07-09-09, 01:07
Sorry if you guys are afraid of enlightenment. Why is the sterotype of Black guys in america always choosing the Fat white women. Not that I'm saying that is the case with all black men. But you have to admit that is the reputation blacks have when it comes to dating white women.
Secondly Black women statistically speaking are less concerned about being bone skinny than other races. Therefore you'd have to say Blacks who like black women like their women with meat on their bones. Now just because I say Blacks like women with meat doesn't mean they have to be 2 ton fatties.
Look at beyonce. She is a woman with considerable size hips. And is thick as all outdoors. But for the brothers she is as hot as they come.
ThatGuy865
07-09-09, 01:15
You have blacks all figured out, right? Well here are some Meat Loaf posts that say you haven't got a clue.
Really! Because Mr Loaf says you're a liar.Chocha,
Meat loaf wasn't posting that to me. I don't know where you got his post from but he was addressing me.
Besides even if he was posting that to me he knows no more about who I am than you do. Just like I know nothing about who you are.
So I don't know why you would use that post as if it has some credibility.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090708/tuk-girl-faces-life-over-honey-trap-murd-dba1618.html
Girl faces life over 'honey trap' murder
Yesterday, 05:54 pm
Samantha Joseph, 16, was convicted of murder at the Old Bailey for leading Shakilus Townsend to the quiet cul-de-sac where he was killed by a masked and hooded gang.
The lovestruck teenager bled to death after being beaten with baseball bats and stabbed six times in a "relentless and merciless attack".
He was besotted with Joseph and told his mother he wanted to marry her, but she told others she was using him and treated him like "s*".
While Joseph, who was 15 at the time, was happy for Shakilus to shower her with gifts, she was still obsessed with another teenager, gang member Danny McLean, 18, of Thornton Heath.
McLean had dumped her when he found out about her relationship with Shakilus, who was no stranger to gangland culture and knife crime himself, earning his first criminal conviction at the age of 13, but Joseph was prepared to do anything to get him back.
CCTV pictures from the day of the attack in July last year show her wearing a see-through floral dress as she met Shakilus and took a bus with him.
He thought they were on their way to meet her cousin but in fact she was playing a "dangerous double game" luring him to the ambush in Thornton Heath, south London, while secretly keeping in touch with McLean by mobile phone.
She laughed as his attackers caught him and began raining down blows with fists, feet and baseball bats before she turned and walked away.
McLean - who had himself been injured by a bat during the furious melee - plunged a knife into his chest, raking it across his liver before twisting the blade.
As he lay bleeding to death Shakilus called out for his mother and cried: "I don't want to die."
McLean, who was wearing a bright orange bandana, the colour identifying him as a member of the Shine My Nine gang to which he and the other attackers belonged, then walked off with Joseph who was seen carrying his hoodie and a cream-coloured handbag stained with his blood.
Joseph later set about trying to "rub out" any trace of her relationship with Shakilus, deleting his online Bebo account and telling friends to erase his number from their phones.
In court she admitted agreeing to lead him into the ambush so that he could get beaten up but said she did not realise he would be seriously hurt. But jurors rejected her explanation and she was found guilty of murder along with McLean.
Brothers Tyrell Ellis, 19, and Don-Carlos Ellis, 18, from Thornton Heath, were also convicted of murder, together with Andrew Johnson-Haynes, a 18-year-old former public schoolboy from Croydon who played rugby for London Irish.
Two other youths, aged 17, were also found guilty.
And about losers under 35:
"I stated, I felt, and mainly still do that men under 35 that use P4P as their ONLY/PRIMARY means for getting sex are losers. "
If I remember correctly I became a hopeless loser at 25:) BTW I just came back from a vacation with a girlfriend. But actually I wish that I would go to RIO alone and did P4P instead of this vacation with free sex.
What is the exact Definition of a loser?
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/loser
loser
One entry found.
Main Entry: los·er
Pronunciation:
Function: noun
Date: 1548
1: a person or thing that loses especially consistently
2: a person who is incompetent or unable to succeed ; also : something doomed to fail or disappoint.
Which one of these applies to a guy who pays for sex under 35? 2?
If I wasn't brained washed by American rap music and a culture that states playing for sex is for the "losers" I would have been flying to PI at age 17. I discovered mongering late at 23. Only regret I have I didn't find out about sooner. Probably would have saved me a marriage and a divorce
I am really glad that this room exist in an obscure corner of the internet galaxy, because like many of you I think that American Women suck. The plethora of s**t that American guys deal with is obsurd. I have had my share of American Women and Foreign Women, but if I am going to settle down, my wife needs to know and be comfortable with being a woman, and American Women have lost this along the way. Where are the women like that that actually know this and are not trying to compete with all of the manly requirements required of men (I. E. Join the military, play football, etc.)? All of the foreign women that I have been with, whether it be Chinese, Filipino, Brazilian, Mexican, etc. All treat a man like they are supposed to be treated. Even prostitutes from various contries treat you better. I truly love women because of their differences and if they want to continually take on manyly roles and act like men because it is easier than give me transvetites; because they might have it figured out (not that I have been with one, so I don't know). Honestly, where are the women who love to dress in sun dresses and high heels; and be classy. WTF!?
Neon Noodle
07-09-09, 14:40
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090708/tuk-girl-faces-life-over-honey-trap-murd-dba1618.html
Girl faces life over 'honey trap' murder
Yesterday, 05:54 pm
Samantha Joseph, 16, was convicted of murder at the Old Bailey for leading Shakilus Townsend to the quiet cul-de-sac where he was killed by a masked and hooded gang.
The lovestruck teenager bled to death after being beaten with baseball bats and stabbed six times in a "relentless and merciless attack".
He was besotted with Joseph and told his mother he wanted to marry her, but she told others she was using him and treated him like "s*".
While Joseph, who was 15 at the time, was happy for Shakilus to shower her with gifts, she was still obsessed with another teenager, gang member Danny McLean, 18, of Thornton Heath.
McLean had dumped her when he found out about her relationship with Shakilus, who was no stranger to gangland culture and knife crime himself, earning his first criminal conviction at the age of 13, but Joseph was prepared to do anything to get him back.
CCTV pictures from the day of the attack in July last year show her wearing a see-through floral dress as she met Shakilus and took a bus with him.
He thought they were on their way to meet her cousin but in fact she was playing a "dangerous double game" luring him to the ambush in Thornton Heath, south London, while secretly keeping in touch with McLean by mobile phone.
She laughed as his attackers caught him and began raining down blows with fists, feet and baseball bats before she turned and walked away.
McLean - who had himself been injured by a bat during the furious melee - plunged a knife into his chest, raking it across his liver before twisting the blade.
As he lay bleeding to death Shakilus called out for his mother and cried: "I don't want to die."
McLean, who was wearing a bright orange bandana, the colour identifying him as a member of the Shine My Nine gang to which he and the other attackers belonged, then walked off with Joseph who was seen carrying his hoodie and a cream-coloured handbag stained with his blood.
Joseph later set about trying to "rub out" any trace of her relationship with Shakilus, deleting his online Bebo account and telling friends to erase his number from their phones.
In court she admitted agreeing to lead him into the ambush so that he could get beaten up but said she did not realise he would be seriously hurt. But jurors rejected her explanation and she was found guilty of murder along with McLean.
Brothers Tyrell Ellis, 19, and Don-Carlos Ellis, 18, from Thornton Heath, were also convicted of murder, together with Andrew Johnson-Haynes, a 18-year-old former public schoolboy from Croydon who played rugby for London Irish.
Two other youths, aged 17, were also found guilty.Horrible story there. I hope none of them breath free air again. Good thing the jury didn't fall for her "Poor innocent me" act.
Sorry if you guys are afraid of enlightenment. Why is the sterotype of Black guys in america always choosing the Fat white women. Not that I'm saying that is the case with all black men. But you have to admit that is the reputation blacks have when it comes to dating white women.
You are wrong. FAT White women are very upfront and very aggressive about chasing Black men. I've had a bunch of White women tell me that White men are totally incapable of satisfying them, so they need a Black dick to get the job done. So would it be appropriate for me to generalize and say all White men have Small dicks or all Black men have Big dicks.....NO.
Secondly Black women statistically speaking are less concerned about being bone skinny than other races. Therefore you'd have to say Blacks who like black women like their women with meat on their bones. Now just because I say Blacks like women with meat doesn't mean they have to be 2 ton fatties.
Black men like all types of women, thin, thick, medium build. I'm in the middle, I like some meat on my woman's bones......more cushion for the pushing.
Look at beyonce. She is a woman with considerable size hips. And is thick as all outdoors. But for the brothers she is as hot as they come.
Beyonce, she's one hot looking woman IMHO. I love how she looks.
Thatguy865, I'm sure this freakishly thin looking woman shown below is more up your alley...YES.
ThatGuy865
07-10-09, 03:05
You are wrong, it's just the FAT White women are very upfront and very aggressive about chasing Black men. I've had a bunch of White women tell me that White men are totally incapable of satisfying them, so they need a Black dick to get the job done. So would it be appropriate for me to generalize and say all White men have Small dicks or all Black men have Big dicks.....NO. .
So what you are telling me is the reason you see a lot of Black guys with big white women is because the big white women seek out the black guys .. So skinny to average sized white women are satisfied with white men ... but big sized white women aren't ...
Now thats a twist I never heard.
Black men like all types of women, thin, thick, medium build. I'm in the middle, I like some meat on my woman's bones......more cushion for the pushing. As I previously stated NOT all of any race can be pigeon holed into one box. But there are some thruths to every majority. I have only said that most black men prefer women with meat on their bones. Like you.
Why is Brazil more popular with Black mongers than SEA. Its cheaper in SEA but yet more Black go to brazil. Its because the women are thick. Big Booties and titties.
Now don't write saying you've seen blacks in SEA. Cause I go and I know they go there. But it is nothing close to the numbers that go to Brazil or the Dominican Repulic. And I'm more or less talking about American Blacks.
Also you obviously have not read my previous post where I state I like women with meat on their bones myself.
DJ FourMoney
07-10-09, 11:38
So what you are telling me is the reason you see a lot of Black guys with big white women is because the big white women seek out the black guys .. So skinny to average sized white women are satisfied with white men ... but big sized white women aren't ...
Now thats a twist I never heard.
As I previously stated NOT all of any race can be pigeon holed into one box. But there are some thruths to every majority. I have only said that most black men prefer women with meat on their bones. Like you.
Why is Brazil more popular with Black mongers than SEA. Its cheaper in SEA but yet more Black go to brazil. Its because the women are thick. Big Booties and titties.
Now don't write saying you've seen blacks in SEA. Cause I go and I know they go there. But it is nothing close to the numbers that go to Brazil or the Dominican Repulic. And I'm more or less talking about American Blacks.
Also you obviously have not read my previous post where I state I like women with meat on their bones myself.
You are stupid and I'm going to put you on ignore after I post this....
There are plenty of White Male Chubby Chasers, we don't corner the market on fat chicks.
Are Black People tolerant? Considering their overall treatment in America, I would say we are VERY tolerant, the constant name calling, questioning of actions, decisions, etc and stupid people like you always trying to use some stereotype and call it fact.
Can I fuck a Fat Chick? Sure they have low self-esteem 90% of the time, any attention they get is greeted with more positive action than from many jaded skinny women. That however does not make it ideal nor desirable.
Like I said we don't corner the market on big booties, Latinos like big booties. Its only in European based culture that the standard of beauty has no hips and flat butts. Twiggy made "Skinny" fashionable and we haven't looked back.
Speaking of Beyonce' there is nothing wrong with how she looks, her ass isn't big its ROUND and she has HIPS.
You are officially on IGNORE good bye!
I am really glad that this room exist in an obscure corner of the internet galaxy, because like many of you I think that American Women suck. The plethora of s**t that American guys deal with is obsurd. I have had my share of American Women and Foreign Women, but if I am going to settle down, my wife needs to know and be comfortable with being a woman, and American Women have lost this along the way. Where are the women like that that actually know this and are not trying to compete with all of the manly requirements required of men (I. E. Join the military, play football, etc.)? All of the foreign women that I have been with, whether it be Chinese, Filipino, Brazilian, Mexican, etc. All treat a man like they are supposed to be treated. Even prostitutes from various contries treat you better. I truly love women because of their differences and if they want to continually take on manyly roles and act like men because it is easier than give me transvetites; because they might have it figured out (not that I have been with one, so I don't know). Honestly, where are the women who love to dress in sun dresses and high heels; and be classy. WTF!?Many chics in North America make me laugh. They either look like shit, behave nasty or both, but they drive some nice BMW which makes them think they are really worth of something. I cannot imaging what the hell she is thinking, she is so much into her nice car and other stupid crap (extra school for the next career, etc..), that she forgets she is a woman.
I see many of those women as just some kinda genderless organism only capable of earning money to buy stuff to make itself "happy", "confident" and "attractive". And of course guys still go for them since there is not much choice left.
It's pointless arguing with a FOOL. You are officially on my IGNORE list......good bye!
So what you are telling me is the reason you see a lot of Black guys with big white women is because the big white women seek out the black guys .. So skinny to average sized white women are satisfied with white men ... but big sized white women aren't ...
Now thats a twist I never heard.
As I previously stated NOT all of any race can be pigeon holed into one box. But there are some thruths to every majority. I have only said that most black men prefer women with meat on their bones. Like you.
Why is Brazil more popular with Black mongers than SEA. Its cheaper in SEA but yet more Black go to brazil. Its because the women are thick. Big Booties and titties.
Now don't write saying you've seen blacks in SEA. Cause I go and I know they go there. But it is nothing close to the numbers that go to Brazil or the Dominican Repulic. And I'm more or less talking about American Blacks.
Also you obviously have not read my previous post where I state I like women with meat on their bones myself.
Why is Brazil more popular with Black mongers than SEA. Its cheaper in SEA but yet more Black go to brazil. Its because the women are thick. Big Booties and titties.If it were only because of Big Booties, why not stay in the USA. Where the most "thick" women are.
I believe one cannot easily compare Brazil and SEA, it's completely different types of women/culture/countries etc. If one goes to SEA only because it's cheaper, or to Brazil only because of thicker booties, it must be a pretty fucked up guy.
I went to Thailand a couple of times for some friends meetings. There I could 'rent' girls for $25 per day. But I don't go there anymore, I don't care that it was so cheap, virtually free. I prefer to pay the same money for a Colombiana or Brazilera for 1 hour.
Sorry if you guys are afraid of enlightenment. Why is the sterotype of Black guys in america always choosing the Fat white women. Not that I'm saying that is the case with all black men. But you have to admit that is the reputation blacks have when it comes to dating white women.
Secondly Black women statistically speaking are less concerned about being bone skinny than other races. Therefore you'd have to say Blacks who like black women like their women with meat on their bones. Now just because I say Blacks like women with meat doesn't mean they have to be 2 ton fatties.
Look at beyonce. She is a woman with considerable size hips. And is thick as all outdoors. But for the brothers she is as hot as they come.
Beyonce is fine by any standards.
I just got back from the States and did see a few good lookin brothas with fat white chicks...Yuckey. I guess this stereotype is not without merit.
I am with the poster below: I am just not into Thai chicks but love Thailand. I do like most other Asian nationalities just not Thai chicks.
Beyonce is fine by any standards.
I just got back from the States and did see a few good lookin brothas with fat white chicks...Yuckey. I guess this stereotype is not without merit.I believe that if more good-looking girls were available, then those good-looking brothas would be with them, not with the fat chicks.
The fat white chicks are the majority of what is available in USA. Therefore this is what many guys take, no mater black, white, green, guys. They got no other choice.
In USA I always see good or normally looking white guys with buttugly chics. BTW, in Barcelona I've seen a similar picture - many normal guys with not so good-looking girls, so Western Europe must be starting getting fucked up too.
Beyonce is fine by any standards.
I just got back from the States and did see a few good lookin brothas with fat white chicks...Yuckey. I guess this stereotype is not without merit.
I am with the poster below: I am just not into Thai chicks but love Thailand. I do like most other Asian nationalities just not Thai chicks.
Well, this good looking Brotha ain't one of 'em. ;)
Why is Brazil more popular with Black mongers than SEA. Its cheaper in SEA but yet more Black go to brazil. Its because the women are thick. Big Booties and titties.
Also you obviously have not read my previous post where I state I like women with meat on their bones myself.
The brothers like thick, built (big tits and ass) women not fat, there is a big ass difference. Who the fuck wants some slovenly sloppy as broad? Big ass belly, bad bodied etc.
After too much Tequila and George Michael I recently snatched a fatty out the Go-Go bar. Not only that she had mothered a child which I don't like and I forgot to ask. Only thing though she was an excellent fuck partner…. granted my every wish like I was Aladdin…so the night wasn’t a total washout :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KGtuMHinLM&feature=PlayList&p=D1373A96D53AE16A&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=33
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=washout
I just read this article. How the heck to these stewardess over size 18 go down the aisle. No wonder US carrier are spending so much money on fuel. The added weight is an eyesore to passenger and block the view of the sky marshal if there were an emergency.
One of the size 18 plus uniform, the same material could atleast make three to four uniform for their asian stewardess counterpart on Japan airline.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705316201/Some-Northwest-flight-attendants-want-red-dress-in-bigger-sizes.html
I'm on the way back from a relatively big north American city.
Pretty much the same shithole as most other NA cities, except maybe people(girls) seem to be a little nicer than in other north east places.
The first pic is from their Jewish district. From the guy's look I bet he's very educated and makes 100K or so. In my opinion he is a very good-looking guy. The whale he is with is really shocking.
The other pic is from the downtown bar, also the guy looked pretty normal and cool, but the chick she is with would not even make to the cheapest Colombian casa.
Overall on the streets I have met only a few good looking and 2-3 hot girls. Both hotties were with guys, one really drunk. The other one from California.
I asked her and the guy about the directions to a bar. It was funny because she was asking me if I was really asking for directions or only wanted to talk to her. I guess she was really tired of guys hitting on her, and she though that was another pickup line..
Also met a good looking belorussian chick, she was very friendly, but of course she was going to meet some friends on the saturday nite, so there was no point to continue the "friendship", although I "could" - which dos not count:)
Anyway not much choice. Basically that explains why American guys, - white/black/.. gotta be with whales. The very few good-looking chicks have been booked long time ago.
ThatGuy865
07-13-09, 03:43
The brothers like thick, built (big tits and ass) women not fat, there is a big ass difference. Who the fuck wants some slovenly sloppy as broad? Big ass belly, bad bodied etc.
After too much Tequila and George Michael I recently snatched a fatty out the Go-Go bar. Not only that she had mothered a child which I don't like and I forgot to ask. Only thing though she was an excellent fuck partner…. granted my every wish like I was Aladdin…so the night wasn’t a total washout :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KGtuMHinLM&feature=PlayList&p=D1373A96D53AE16A&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=33
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=washoutThats all I was saying Illogic. Most (not All) Brothers like their women with meat on the bones. Thick shapely booties and breast. Of course shapely and fine. I used the term Fat only because most of the guys on this thread tend to think any babe over 110lbs is fat. Unless she's 6 ft tall. Thats why you see more blacks going to latin countries than to SEA for women.
Anyway not much choice. Basically that explains why American guys, - white/black/.. gotta be with whales. The very few good-looking chicks have been booked long time ago.
You might be right but you sure can't tell from these pictures; they're terrible. Why post such low-quality photos? They don't support your case at all.
Thats all I was saying Illogic. Most (not All) Brothers like their women with meat on the bones. Thick shapely booties and breast. Of course shapely and fine. I used the term Fat only because most of the guys on this thread tend to think any babe over 110lbs is fat. Unless she's 6 ft tall. Thats why you see more blacks going to latin countries than to SEA for women.Of course I cannot speak for black guys. Only some observations. When I was in the University, I knew 2-3 of EE skinny sluts. They liked to get drunk and preferred to fuck with black guys. Of course they were never turned down:) It kinda contradicts the theory that black guys prefer "thick".
From my observation they preferred the skinny sluts - what was horny and easily available. And in the pussy-limited USA environment I would prefer the same.
There was also a thick fat ass EE girl. One Arab guys was really into her, and then a South American guy. I still wonder why;)
BTW my wife was not too fat;) size 2, about 99lbs, 5'6 or something:)
You might be right but you sure can't tell from these pictures; they're terrible. Why post such low-quality photos? They don't support your case at all.I wanted only to convey the idea. You can clearly see what types of girls are with normal looking guys.
I did not want those people to be recognizable, I don't think it's too nice if they or their friends potentially can see how we use them in these "sickening" discussions between losers;)
ThatGuy865
07-13-09, 05:45
It's obvious since this is an international forum that most of the guys who frequent this forum have already turned their on AW. So its understandable that such bashing would go on. But by no means is this a represtation of most AM. Obviously most are very happy with AW, whether guys on this forum want to call them whales, selfish, gold diggers. There have been millions (if not billions, by this time) of AM who thru military service have seen and experienced women from every corner of the world. Yet the majority marry AW, which only goes to the fact that most are comfortable/satisfied with AW.
Anyway not much choice. Basically that explains why American guys, - white/black/.. gotta be with whales. The very few good-looking chicks have been booked long time ago.
Hey Goga F here are a couple of pics that are representative of American gals.
I just read this article. How the heck to these stewardess over size 18 go down the aisle. No wonder US carrier are spending so much money on fuel. The added weight is an eyesore to passenger and block the view of the sky marshal if there were an emergency.
One of the size 18 plus uniform, the same material could atleast make three to four uniform for their asian stewardess counterpart on Japan airline.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705316201/Some-Northwest-flight-attendants-want-red-dress-in-bigger-sizes.htmlI showed this to a Russian girlfriend. She told me that in Russia to be a stewardess, a woman should not be more than size of about 10, and an average height, the reason is the safety of the passengers. But in reality I think there is more to that, probably nobody wants to see overweight whales in airplanes.
I guess in USA that would be called discrimination and would cause lawsuits instead of encouraging women to try to look better and east less crap.
ThatGuy865
07-14-09, 01:20
Hey Goga F here are a couple of pics that are representative of American gals.There are also plenty of American women like these.
There are also plenty of American women like these.
Maybe 3 out 10 American women look like this. With European women, it's probably 7-8 out of 10.
Gentleman Travel
07-14-09, 15:52
There are also plenty of American women like these.For me the key thing is that these women are inaccessible to guys like me (average middle-aged man). In Eastern Europe it is possible to date and fuck women like this, with some game or some money.
For me the key thing is that these women are inaccessible to guys like me (average middle-aged man). In Eastern Europe it is possible to date and fuck women like this, with some game or some money.
I travel a bit for work, often to places that are high on many mongerers' lists and I can say one thing quite confidently: the largest collection of the most beautiful women that i have ever seen in one place is Manhattan.
It's true that one must have his shit together to date these types of women but nothing worth anything is without struggle or a price.
I have a stable of EE and FSU women that range anywhere form 7.5's to 9s but 90% of them are nothing more than trophy babes that I feel absolutely no intellectual connection with. Yes, the sex is great, and I love being ogled, admired, and hated my men like yourself when I walk into a room with a 6'0 tall bangin Russian blonde but after a month or two they all replacable and interchangable.
I think instead of posting on this board many of you need to climb the ladder of success and beautiful women will avail themselves to you on any continent.
Trust me, get a Porsche in anyplace but LA or NYC and you will get play.
DJ FourMoney
07-14-09, 17:00
I wanted only to convey the idea. You can clearly see what types of girls are with normal looking guys.
I did not want those people to be recognizable, I don't think it's too nice if they or their friends potentially can see how we use them in these "sickening" discussions between losers;)
Pic #1 - Backs turned (She's not fat, not Size 2 but not more than Size 6-8)
Pic #2 - Heads cut-off
Without going to the ying and yang of taking pictures of people in public for posting on the "internets" you're excuses are weak, Bez takes better, clearly grainy pictures than you do...lol
BTW I DJ'ed last night, not one heffer in the place and you should have saw this "Freak" that had a pretty face, slim waist, and was STACKED, wooo hoo.
DJ FourMoney
07-14-09, 17:04
I travel a bit for work, often to places that are high on many mongerers' lists and I can say one thing quite confidently: the largest collection of the most beautiful women that i have ever seen in one place is Manhattan.
It's true that one must have his shit together to date these types of women but nothing worth anything is without struggle or a price.
I have a stable of EE and FSU women that range anywhere form 7.5's to 9s but 90% of them are nothing more than trophy babes that I feel absolutely no intellectual connection with. Yes, the sex is great, and I love being ogled, admired, and hated my men like yourself when I walk into a room with a 6'0 tall bangin Russian blonde but after a month or two they all replacable and interchangable.
I think instead of posting on this board many of you need to climb the ladder of success and beautiful women will avail themselves to you on any continent.
Trust me, get a Porsche in anyplace but LA or NYC and you will get play.
Nope I'll take my looser status and drive a $20,000 car.
I'll also put LA's Home Grown and Imported Talent against whatever you got in NYC and even on a Monday Night its pretty darn impressive...
Nope I'll take my looser status and drive a $20,000 car.
I'll also put LA's Home Grown and Imported Talent against whatever you got in NYC and even on a Monday Night its pretty darn impressive...
$20,000 cars lead to $2.00 women:) For 15k more you can get a Porsche on Ebay.
LA babes are great too although NYC has more flavors. I prefer LA women though...East Coast chicks don't buy my act.
I travel a bit for work, often to places that are high on many mongerers' lists and I can say one thing quite confidently: the largest collection of the most beautiful women that i have ever seen in one place is Manhattan.
I thought the discussion was about America, not Manhattan which a completely different country:) I could say the same about some places like Hollywood, or beauty pageants. I went to some beauty pageants, and of course there some hot American girls. But does it make everybody's life easier?
Also those hot chicks are not easily accessible in Manhattan. Simply no. And very expensive to be there for most people. I believe most people in USA live outside of Manhattan.
It's true that one must have his shit together to date these types of women but nothing worth anything is without struggle or a price.
Trust me, get a Porsche in anyplace but LA or NYC and you will get play.Dirk you talk from a FSU point of view. Of course nice car and spending loads of cash(like you do) will get you hot babes in FSU.
In USA you might get some but most likely it will be different result for most people.
Pic #1. Backs turned (She's not fat, not Size 2 but not more than Size 6-8)
Pic #2. Heads cut-off
Without going to the ying and yang of taking pictures of people in public for posting on the "internets" you're excuses are weak, Bez takes better, clearly grainy pictures than you do. LOLWow, if you think the first one is not fat. We definitely have different standards. If it is normal, then now I do not understand why some guys here have problems in USA.
I guess everybody has their own taste. I was puzzled to see a gringo guy on Copacabana beach with a buttugly garota. I though why the hell one wants travel half of the world and pay many for this, while North America is full of those girls. I guess than means at least that garota was available for fuck.
$20,000 cars lead to $2.00 women:) For 15k more you can get a Porsche on Ebay.
LA babes are great too although NYC has more flavors. I prefer LA women though...East Coast chicks don't buy my act.I recently sold my Lexus SUV in USA since I'm trying to spend less time here and eventually to get out long term.
In USA it did not give me shit, except more expenses, headacke, and gold digging EE girls trying to get married and all the shit that would follow.
Instead for that money(I just calculated) I can have 100 days of three-four somes with young beautiful Colombianas or Brazilean garotas.
I was talking about full days of fun and sex(high quality, not bullshit) with 2-3 girls.
Can you say you can get this kinda things in USA? I'm talking about the majority, not 0.001% of lucky/rich/famous
For me the key thing is that these women are inaccessible to guys like me (average middle-aged man). In Eastern Europe it is possible to date and fuck women like this, with some game or some money.
They also inaccessible to the ugly, the fat, socially awkward, broke (financially poor) etc...and if your all of the above well...
They also inaccessible to the ugly, the fat, socially awkward, broke (financially poor) etc...and if your all of the above well...I believe I'm opposite to all of the above. But still usually those girls are inaccessible to me. I'm still young to date EE girls and Latin, actually they say I'm too young sometimes. But in USA many girls freak out and look at me like at a maniac. When I was married we went with my wife to make her ear piercing, those idiots though she was may daughter and her mom her grandma. But she was only 7 years younger then me - 23, but she looked younger.
Another problem here is free time. People never have free time in USA. Now for me is much easier to fly to another country where many women are available any time, than to try to match my time with a busy girl in USA. I do not have much control over the situation here which sucks big time.
Bango Cheito
07-15-09, 00:22
I couldn't see how anybody could say girls in NYC OR LA are better looking than the ones here in Bogota. Maybe that's me but I just can't see it.
The city with the greatest percentage of really, really hot women, 9s (there are no 10s), that I have encountered is Valparaíso (Chile, not Indiana). The Welsh Triangle in Argentina (Trelew, Puerto Madryn, and Rawson) has a lot of hotties as well. Tall, green-eyed Latinas tend to work well for me. I was there for Carnival in 2008 and my dick was so hard I didn't have enough skin left to blink my eyes most of the time.
Or you could live in New York:
Q: How many New Yorkers does it take to change a light bulb?
A: None a ya fuckin business.
ThatGuy865
07-15-09, 02:55
They also inaccessible to the ugly, the fat, socially awkward, broke (financially poor) etc. And if your all of the above well.I would have to beg to differ with you Illogic.
I know poor guys who date a lot of fine women, there are women who always like that bad boy and alot of the bad boys are poor but have a great look.
Especially young babes in their 20's. They are just looking for a good time.
Like wise I know some ugly guys with money and game who date fine women.
Did you ever go to Cancun or any other popular beach location when you were in your 20's or 30's. There are plenty of women in their 20's throwing pussy around.
Now I'll agree once you get pass 40 it get harder to get the 20 year olds. But there are plenty of women in their 30's who are still lookin doable. IMHO
Trust me, get a Porsche in anyplace but LA or NYC and you will get play.Does anyone else see the irony in the fact that you have to drive a *foreign* car in order to get *American* women? Reminds me of a joke a buddy once told me: "How do you achieve the American dream? Get a Swiss Bank account, drive an Italian sports car, and marry a Brazilian supermodel"!
Does anyone else see the irony in the fact that you have to drive a *foreign* car in order to get *American* women? Reminds me of a joke a buddy once told me: "How do you achieve the American dream? Get a Swiss Bank account, drive an Italian sports car, and marry a Brazilian supermodel"!
Exactly. That's the thing. Even though I can afford a much fancier car, I drive a 13 year old Honda Civic, very clean and well kept, but still a basic plain old car. Most AW (other than some desparate fat fugly) who might be worth my effort would be most unimpressed and my chances of getting laid - about zero. But I've bedded a number of Japanese chicks who have seen it. They are well-educated from well-heeled families. They said they admire my frugality and practicality, refusal to go into debt for car payments, and that it means I am secure enough with myself that I don't need shallow status symbols to feel OK with myself. Same goes for my house.
I would have to beg to differ with you Illogic.
I know poor guys who date a lot of fine women, there are women who always like that bad boy and alot of the bad boys are poor but have a great look.
Especially young babes in their 20's. They are just looking for a good time.
Like wise I know some ugly guys with money and game who date fine women.
Did you ever go to Cancun or any other popular beach location when you were in your 20's or 30's. There are plenty of women in their 20's throwing pussy around.
Now I'll agree once you get pass 40 it get harder to get the 20 year olds. But there are plenty of women in their 30's who are still lookin doable. IMHO
There is always an exception to the rule TG.
DJ FourMoney
07-15-09, 10:59
There is always an exception to the rule TG.
True TG has a point about 30somethings...
If you don't care about baggage then go for it. I recently found a 41 year old woman on Plenty of Fish that openly lied about her age because she didn't want to be shut out by men that cut off searches at 40 or younger. Just what else is she willing to lie about????
There are women with no children, but have other "issues" which is why they aren't married, I've said before, you can't think you'll find a "Nice Man" on the back end of your 20's, because you'll be in your 30's, single and still looking...
But does really a AW of 30 or 40 even stand a chance with mid 20's Eastern European, Asian or Latina??????
Frankypanky
07-15-09, 12:03
There are also plenty of American women like these.
Of course, but then you should love/like the 'plastic fantastic'-look and attitude...
Hey TG865 on all these points; I most certainly agree with you.
I would have to beg to differ with you Illogic.
I know poor guys who date a lot of fine women, there are women who always like that bad boy and alot of the bad boys are poor but have a great look.
Especially young babes in their 20's. They are just looking for a good time.
Like wise I know some ugly guys with money and game who date fine women.
Did you ever go to Cancun or any other popular beach location when you were in your 20's or 30's. There are plenty of women in their 20's throwing pussy around.
Now I'll agree once you get pass 40 it get harder to get the 20 year olds. But there are plenty of women in their 30's who are still lookin doable. IMHO
Gentleman Travel
07-15-09, 15:31
for me the key thing is that these women are inaccessible to guys like me (average middle-aged man). in eastern europe it is possible to date and fuck women like this, with some game or some money.
they also inaccessible to the ugly, the fat, socially awkward, broke (financially poor) etc...and if your all of the above well....
i travel a bit for work, often to places that are high on many mongerers' lists and i can say one thing quite confidently: the largest collection of the most beautiful women that i have ever seen in one place is manhattan.
it's true that one must have his shit together to date these types of women but nothing worth anything is without struggle or a price.
so let me get this straight - i am not a real man unless i can bag california beach babes less than half my age? or new york fashionistas?
well, i confess, i cannot do that. and i don't believe it would be worth the effort. what i can do is meet and bag fabulous girls in eastern europe, when i travel there on business. and sometimes, by altering my standards, achieve some success in north american cities. and i have also learned from this board how to best avail myself of whatever opportunities exist in other places i pass through - like fkks in germany.
i have a stable of ee and fsu women that range anywhere form 7.5's to 9s but 90% of them are nothing more than trophy babes that i feel absolutely no intellectual connection with. yes, the sex is great, and i love being ogled, admired, and hated my men like yourself when i walk into a room with a 6'0 tall bangin russian blonde but after a month or two they all replacable and interchangable.
... and the problem with this is what?????? unless you are looking to get marry one, why do you need a deeper connection? it just makes breaking up more painful for both. i think the occasional fling is just what most guys here are looking for.
but if one did want a ltr, i think ee women have a lot to offer.
maybe not the blonde bimbos you are talking about, but there are a lot of highly educated, cultured and caring ee women who would love to have a guy like me - and maybe even a guy like you.
i think instead of posting on this board many of you need to climb the ladder of success and beautiful women will avail themselves to you on any continent..
sure money and material success are great aphrodisiacs but we all have to work with what we've got. this board helps me to figure out how to maximize my strengths, paper over my weaknesses and fish in ponds that will work for me. and chasing american beach bunnies is not going to work for me or most guys on this board.
and i think a lot of guys here have realized that a lifetime of chasing material success has not necessarily got them the romantic and sexual satisfaction they desire. so we pursue a separate and more efficient strategy for that. actually, the guys i know from my peer group who are more successful than me may have bigger houses and nicer cars than me, but i don't think any of them are getting more or better pussy, because they don't monger. probably they are too scared to upset the status quo. since mongering i get more pussy at home and away.
trust me, get a porsche in anyplace but la or nyc and you will get play.
yeah, that could work.
or maybe a better plan would be to stuff hundred dollar bills in all my pockets
and orifices and tattoo "more money than brains" on my forehead.
that would be just as effective and more honest.
for the price of insurance and repairs alone i could sponsor a cute college girl in any north american city ... and save on gas!
I thought the discussion was about America, not Manhattan which a completely different country:) I could say the same about some places like Hollywood, or beauty pageants. I went to some beauty pageants, and of course there some hot American girls. But does it make everybody's life easier?
Also those hot chicks are not easily accessible in Manhattan. Simply no. And very expensive to be there for most people. I believe most people in USA live outside of Manhattan..
I concur that NYC and LA are not representative of the American heartlands;however, millions of Americans live in or within close proximity of these two metropolitan behemouths. ..The girls there have to date somebody.
Look, I am damn near 30 and have spent the bulk of my post grad career as a consultant for a large multinational consulting firm--about 35% of my time in conflict/post-conflict zones; 35% of my time in the emerging markets of EE, the FSU, and a bit in Latin America;10% of my time on domestic assignments; and the rest on virtual or actual holiday (as I have damn near mastered the art of billing remotely).
Ironically, I was assigned to the healthcare unit for about six months Statside and traveled from hospital to hospital in BFE in the midwest and upper South. Sarah Palin type 50-150k folk towns
I remember my time in Mankato, Minnesota with great nostalgia! Hot nurses, horny interns and residents, and slutty billing girls. When I first rolled into town in my late model leased BMW people defintely had a WTF momment just because I had a fucking BMW that I didn't even own. I got play right off the bat for having a nice ride.
And the women, although there were some fatties, were generally very good looking, honest, and warm. They also liked to fuck and once they got comfortable around me we had many a wild night. I even screwed a resident in a vacated OR.
I did not toss money around aside from springing for weekends in the Twin Cities and nice dinners and was very happy with the ladies there. I made ok money then--and was on per diem--but my salary was between 75-77K a year. Ok in the midwest for a young single guy but not ballin outta control by any standards.
Theese were normal, small town American women with good values who had expecations that were quite reasonable. They were neither fat, gold diggers, nor idiotic.
I had a better time in Mankato than I did in Moldova! And the women in Mankato were quite comparable to the chicks of Chisinau.
Why can't you all experience the same?
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Dirk you talk from a FSU point of view. Of course nice car and spending loads of cash(like you do) will get you hot babes in FSU.
In USA you might get some but most likely it will be different result for most people.[/QUOTE]
I recently sold my Lexus SUV in USA since I'm trying to spend less time here and eventually to get out long term.
In USA it did not give me shit, except more expenses, headacke, and gold digging EE girls trying to get married and all the shit that would follow.
Instead for that money(I just calculated) I can have 100 days of three-four somes with young beautiful Colombianas or Brazilean garotas.
I was talking about full days of fun and sex(high quality, not bullshit) with 2-3 girls.
Can you say you can get this kinda things in USA? I'm talking about the majority, not 0.001% of lucky/rich/famous
You are right that beautiful women have higher expectations in richer countries than they do in poor countries.
But do you really want to live your life for sex vacations...it may not be fulfilling, we are human beings, not just sex machines.
In the USA, as you admitted, you can earn enough to get gold digging EE babes with a lux SUV. If one leaves the US for good I doubt they would be able to attract gold diggers because they would have no gold...remember foreign women assume that the bullshit you tell them abroad is true.
I couldn't see how anybody could say girls in NYC OR LA are better looking than the ones here in Bogota. Maybe that's me but I just can't see it.
Bro, the smart ones with brains and ambition ARE IN NYC AND LA:) They got the fuck out of Argentina and Bogota years ago.
Does anyone else see the irony in the fact that you have to drive a *foreign* car in order to get *American* women? Reminds me of a joke a buddy once told me: "How do you achieve the American dream? Get a Swiss Bank account, drive an Italian sports car, and marry a Brazilian supermodel"!
the higher you are on the food chain the more desirable women avail themselves to you...I guess an Escalade would work as well as a Porsche in Ohio.
Chocha Monger
07-15-09, 18:01
Flustered, he says that marriage to countess 30 years younger ‘was dead’
By Mike Celizic
TODAYShow.com contributor
updated 2 hours, 47 minutes ago
He was 60, urbane and exquisitely upholstered in tailored suits and starched shirts. She was 30 and Swedish, as in drop-dead blond gorgeous. He was the fabulously wealthy former CEO of a high-powered manufacturing firm. She was a countess.
It was a match made in rich people’s heaven. But the divorce is straight from the ninth circle of relationship hell.
George David is 67 now, an older if no wiser man. Marie Douglas-David is 37, still in the prime of life and perhaps financially savvier. There is no question that both want to go their separate ways — she to a life of luxury, he to the arms of his current girlfriend. The question being debated in the democratic venue of a Hartford, Conn., family court for all the world to hear with voyeuristic delight is who gets how much.
$99 million, please
The couple had agreed to separate in 2007, their marriage irreparably broken. He said that she was bossy and imperious (imagine that from a countess) and even tried to force sex upon him. She said that he, the longtime CEO of United Technologies, was often off canoodling with one Wendy Touton, whom he admits lavishing with gifts — including a $13,000 fur and a $10,000 pair of Manolo Blahnik shoes.
In 2005, three years after their wedding, Marie Douglas-David signed a postnuptial agreement giving her $43 million in stock, hedge fund shares, jewelry, and properties in Sweden worth $4 million. But she says that because the couple reconciled for six months after they broke up, the agreement is void. And besides, she says, the postnup shouldn’t apply anyway because she was deceived into signing it.
David is worth a reported $300 million, and, as Peter Alexander of NBC News reported Wednesday for TODAY, Douglas-David wants $99 million of that. Nothing else, she maintains, can support her in the style to which living as David’s wife has accustomed her.
Douglas-David’s needs are not simple. She ticked off her expenses for the court: $53,000 a week just to pay the bills, which include $8,000 for travel, $4,000-plus for clothing, $1,500 for restaurants, $1,000 to keep her hair perfect and her skin glowing, $600 for flowers to make the Park Avenue penthouse worth walking into.
David’s unwillingness to pay is evidenced by his willingness to take the stand in Hartford in front of the unwashed world and talk about what some would consider the embarrassing details of his life.
R.I.P. wedded bliss
Still, he did that for the fifth time Tuesday, testifying that his marriage was “dead” long before he became heavily involved with another woman. “We had no relationship. This marriage was dead,” David testified.
David, who until last year was the chief executive of UTC, has appeared flustered during his past two days on the stand. Reluctantly, he has acknowledged spending thousands on gifts for a mistress, Wendy Touton of Manhattan, during a 2007 trip to London.
The gifts included the Manolo Blahniks and clothing from La Perla, an upscale lingerie and swimwear store. Also, he testified, a 2007 Christmas Day shopping trip included the purchase of the fur coat and $1,500 worth of La Mer beauty products.
Douglas-David’s legal team pointed out travel records that show David jet-setted with Touton to locations that include Argentina, Paris, Frankfurt, Sardinia and St. Tropez, France. They contend that Douglas-David was kept in the dark and tried to reconcile with her husband.
“He was dishonest with her on multiple levels,” her lead attorney, William Beslow, said.
Douglas-David sent an e-mail Nov. 11, 2007, addressed to “my pumpkin and signed “jag alskar dig,” which means “I love you” in Swedish.
“I know you think the odds are low but I wish you would give us another chance of being happy with the very strong love and bond I still hope that we have between us. We can be an amazing couple,” she wrote, a copy of the e-mail filed with the court shows.
David’s lead attorney, former appellate court judge Anne C. Dranginis, argued that the gift-giving and travel were irrelevant because they took place after the divorce proceedings started.
The Associated Press contributed reporting to this story.
Best AW fuck I ever had was (is) a nurse from Minnesota. Always date nurses. I never met a nurse that did not like to suck cock. However no matter how smart a gal from Argentina might be, she will no longer be able to flee to the US nowadays unless she knows somebody or blows somebody.
Bro, the smart ones with brains and ambition ARE IN NYC AND LA They got the fuck out of Argentina and Bogota years ago.This is not a problem. Let NYC guys continue struggling to get those smart ones with brains and ambition. There are many guys trying for years figure out how to meet those smart ambitious chicks.
There are always new ones getting born and growing up. And not all of the beauties have enough brains and ambitions to go to NYC.
Also I believe women's "brains and ambitions" do not correlate well to the quality of time you have with them. Some guys say something about "intelligent" conversation with a woman. Fuck this shit, I have enough male friends for that.
This is not a problem. Let NYC guys continue struggling to get those smart ones with brains and ambition. There are many guys trying for years figure out how to meet those smart ambitious chicks.
There are always new ones getting born and growing up. And not all of the beauties have enough brains and ambitions to go to NYC.
Also I believe women's "brains and ambitions" do not correlate well to the quality of time you have with them. Some guys say something about "intelligent" conversation with a woman. Fuck this shit, I have enough male friends for that.
Your point of view is valid, it depends on what you want. I want a wife/partner for life and a family so it's important to me that I breed with someone with brains who is pretty.
I would personally have a hard time dating an uber-ambitious woman. For me, an ideal lady would be someone who is well educated and comes from money but does not want a career in corporate America.
He could have had this kunt whacked for way less than $99 million. The going rate for having someone whacked here is $500 US. But what's this got to do with American Women? This woman is not American.
Plus if my math is correct $300 million - $99 million = $201 million so are we supposed to feel sorry for this fuck? Now this schmuck is American, if you know from schmuck.
http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/quickchart/quickchart.asp?symb=utx&sid=0&o_symb=utx&freq=2&time=12
A five year chart of UTX's performance. Not too impressive. $45 to $50 in ten years is pretty weak. I say give her 99 cents, deport her back to Sweden (throw her in the ocean and see if she can swim back, would be fine with me), and then have him whacked and distribute his assets to the UTX shareholders.
That's just my opinion.
Australiasucks
07-16-09, 05:54
All the English speaking countries of the world are just as bad as America. American women are horrible, but Australian, Canadian, British, and Kiwi women are just as terrible as their American counterparts. I think Continental European women are much better, especially Eastern Europeans, they can be amazing.
Chocha Monger
07-16-09, 06:10
He could have had this kunt whacked for way less than $99 million. The going rate for having someone whacked here is $500 US. But what's this got to do with American Women? This woman is not American.
Plus if my math is correct $300 million - $99 million = $201 million so are we supposed to feel sorry for this fuck? Now this schmuck is American, if you know from schmuck.
http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/quickchart/quickchart.asp?symb=utx&sid=0&o_symb=utx&freq=2&time=12
A five year chart of UTX's performance. Not too impressive. $45 to $50 in ten years is pretty weak. I say give her 99 cents, deport her back to Sweden (throw her in the ocean and see if she can swim back, would be fine with me), and then have him whacked and distribute his assets to the UTX shareholders.
That's just my opinion.
You're right, she is not American. She is Swedish and the Swedes love everything American. They actually invented modern feminism as we know it. American feminists take their lead from the radicals in Sweden.
And no we need not feel sorry for that sucker. I just find the mechanics of the case interesting.
DJ FourMoney
07-16-09, 10:40
He mentioned going to no-where America and getting laid, I would say you had 3 major things working for you in that small town environment that would get just about anybody laid -
1) Your not from the area
Girls familiar with town hot shots and loosers will find you interesting just because your not a local.
2) You rolled up in a fancy car
This screams MONEY and even if says Autoland Leasing on the back frame so what, like they notice that tiny detail.
3) You have One and Two working for you, combine that with decent or better than decent looks and some game and you have it made in the shade.
If anybody in this position can't get laid more than once has SERIOUS issues... This even works in big cities because often time Big City women are jaded and fed up with the local men.
You don't get extra points for the Doctor you fucked in the empty OR because likely she was/is married, found 1,2 and 3 interesting enough to give you some.
Like I said if you can't bag even married women in this scenario, you suck...
But be that as it may -
I have grown up middle class with low expectations and don't really want much more than my parents have, but with better money management and more technology oriented than my parents I can get more out of less and still have the same lifestyle, once I figure out what I need to do to bring in that kind of income.
Driving a truck is similar to your life of living out of your carry on luggage. I wasn't as successful as I wanted to be with it and that's purely my fault. But I could have had a life of driving 21 days with 2 days off which would have morphed into 2-3 weeks paid vacation per year at $38k-$40 a year within 3 years.
I drove for a total of 1.3 years for two companies and it looks like I won't get a 3rd Strike, so I gave back my Class A when I had to re up for my license. I could have kept it, but what was the point? None of the top companies would hire me and I couldn't convince my father before he passed away (he promised to help me purchase a truck of my own) or my stepfather (who drove for the City of LA) to get off his rusty dusty and run cross-country with me for a few years as a Owner-Operator (where the REAL money is).
So I'm basically back to square one and back to earning near min. wage positions.
At this point I guess my lack of upper education is having an impact on everything, from the money I have, the cars I have, the place I live, even to the women I can (or feel I can) date.
I have come to the conclusion that finding the answer in "small town" America isn't worth the time and effort. Unlike you, your getting assigned to an area and don't have much control over that (Lemons? Make Lemonade). Your expenses are covered or refunded to you by your employer. I can overcome some of this with the internet but as I knew already the best women don't have to use the internet to date, they already have plenty of suitors they just have to pick and choose.
What you have online with women from America and Canada largely are women for whatever reason can't find a decent man locally. Weather its time management issues, career goals or social/mental issues, these are the runts of the litter. There are "Diamonds In The Rough": the cutie working at Wal-Mart with no drive or desire to achieve because there's no examples close to her to gain ideas from.
But those Diamonds are hard to mine and like with real Diamonds if they were easy to get, everybody would have one or two.
So at the end of the day, If I'm a looser but don't think I am I need to combat this uphill struggle the best way I know how. For men that are small thinkers this means downgrading your standards. For me, its taking on the additional risk and expense of foreign women.
A point that GT makes is very clear as well -
But if one did want a LTR, I think EE women have a lot to offer.
Maybe not the blonde bimbos you are talking about, but there are a lot of highly educated, cultured and caring EE women who would love to have a guy like me - and maybe even a guy like you.
For every guy serious about going to say Russia to meet a woman, only about 10% of those guys actually follow through with it and that PALES in comparison with the 10's of thousands of women from Visa restricted countries (mostly in Eastern Europe, Middle East and Asia) that find their local mean uncultured, brutish, rude and unruly. Or the fact that in Ukraine and Russia and other FSU/CIS because of bad habits, wars and oppression the women out number the men. There just aren't enough desirable single males available. If Western men are willing to fly thousands of miles to meet them, they would have to consider that your serious about an LTR.
The women DD meets are the same women that date moguls, oil tycoons and mob figures in their home countries. Because they are the only ones that can afford to travel around, drive nice cars, big houses/luxo apartments/condos and go on shopping sprees.
He has ONE ace in the hole vs local men in that he's African-American which while hardly unique at home, a rarity in FSU or most of Asia.
Why should I fumble around at home and get judged on factors that have no bearing on how I would treat a woman but only where she might live or what car she might drive (if I bought it)?
On a site like Black Planet for example, I find -
1001 profiles from German women (90/10 White to Black/Mixed Women)
891 profiles form Great Britain (About 60/40 Black to White Women)
Those are the most popular countries outside of America. Even in EE I am positive with some effort I can find a girl 23-24 years old that's fairly stunning by my standards that would want to be my wife, have my children and provide for her family and really not much else and even Western Culture wouldn't change that mindset. Remember its mostly the failed relationships you hear and read about, not the successful ones.
I'm sure I can find the same in South America...
Point being for ThatGuy and DD who think people like me that just because I don't have crazy game with women or make bank I'm somewhat less of a man and don't deserve happiness, who are you to say I can't have what I want and be reasonable about it? Me dating and marrying a foreign women has no impact on your ability to do the same or opt for an North American woman instead.
Frankypanky
07-16-09, 12:06
Thats all I was saying Illogic. Most (not All) Brothers like their women with meat on the bones. Thick shapely booties and breast. Of course shapely and fine. I used the term Fat only because most of the guys on this thread tend to think any babe over 110lbs is fat. Unless she's 6 ft tall. Thats why you see more blacks going to latin countries than to SEA for women.
I must say that I do like the 'chubby-girl-next door-look'!
Well shaped and in proportion (thick breasts and ass, indeed).
I am from The Netherlands (Caribbean-based) and even here the women are going towards the 'American Way'... Not always a succes, I must say... :(
Besides, I fucked horny skinny college-girls also but that's because I do not turn down a good fuck... :D
ThatGuy865
07-16-09, 12:49
Dj4Money,
Let me correct you on one thing. I don't feel that you are a loser. But I think. When dealing with women especially AW its all about attitude. If you approach them with confidence, and have a little conversation of interest. No matter what your financial situation is you can score, even with beautiful AW. Will you get every one you try to talk to. Of course not. Be have to be realistic, what do you bring to the relationship. You have to bring more than just a Dick, Beautiful Woman can get that any and everywhere for free. So if you're not going to bring money to the relationship, than you have to have personality.
I make a decent $, but I never used money as a means to meet women. I drive a car which is over 10 years old with dents in it. It runs like a dream. So I see no reason to buy a new one When you meet a woman its usually inside so they don'e see your car at first, and if after we meet and talk, if she see's my car and then doesn't want to be with me because my car is beneath her standards. My attitude is "get to steppin *****", I don't need you anyway.
I believe its in a womans nature to want to fix/help a man in the first place. So as long as a woman feels that you are looking to do better, most will stand by you, If you display self confidence, seem to have goals. And also some good "Dicking" goes a long way too.
I can't think of one time where a car got me laid. But I've had many a nights where after some conversation and a few drinks, it was off to her place or mine.
Now I will agree that a guy will have an eaiser time meeting a Russian/EE woman who is beautiful and maybe even seriously educated. But from my experiences with guys I know who meet those women. If the guy is not on the same level. Handsome, or educated with some possiblities, or money. When he brings these women back to the USA Oh yeah at first everything appears to be fine. But once those women get accustom to what USA Standards are and they realize this man has no potential or ambitions. But only wanted, someone as they say "barefoot and pregnant" to wash and clean. They will be long gone just like an AW.
Sooner or later they realize, either one they are so beautiful they can do better. Or if they are educated. That they can do better financially and do better. So in either case, they realize they can do better.
I think If you don't have what it takes to get an AW of that level, no matter (what country) you meet the woman of a certain caliber, Once you bring her to the states and she realizes her worth and value. Oh because the other women will let her know. She will leave you just the same. JMHO
he mentioned going to no-where america and getting laid, i would say you had 3 major things working for you in that small town environment that would get just about anybody laid.....
dj,
i am on your side, it just pains me that you have your priorties mixed up and are not taking corrective action. look man, beautiful women, which is what you desire, are the rewards of success. looks, charm, jokes, and all that other shit is is of nill import to all but a handful of young western broads.
you want the rewards of the race without putting in the sweat and work to run the race.
you ain't the only one.
getting pussy in america ain't too tough if you have your shit together. so you need to "get it together" by any means neessary. i know it sucks, but those are the rules of the game by which we must play by;if you elect not to, ostracization is likely to follow.
you are an american and will likely live there your entire life--most people do. therefore, instead of focusing on scraping togther enough dough for a sex vacation for 8 days every year or two you should focus on your immediate enviorns.
it is never too late in america to change your plight in life.
i told you before to drive a truck in the sandbox for a year or two. just click submit 100 times a day on kbr's website and you would have had been making almost six figures with no expenses and little tax liabillity by now.
thne come back to the states, buy a nice ride...or chill in sea for three months and screw bar girls...but instead you want to stay in a no-win situation in ca with no pussy and little career prospects.
or learn it...you can make six figures in america with only an 18 month it course on your resume...they need people so bad that they import whordes of indians to run computer networks--or whatever the fuck they do.
if you wanna be a player then you need to play!
and the shit ain't rocket science, most it guys that i know spend 70% of their day fucking around all day violating the company it policy by looking at porn and japanese cartoons.
i fell on my ass some years ago , but i didn't stay there. i got back on the horse and kept moving forward.
you would be smart to heed my advice and get it before you hit 50 and are just another bitter smuck.
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a few other things: russian dudes are actually much nicer than american men are...if ivan has 500 rubles in his pocket he will give 500 to svetlana and borrow another five to give to her. i only realized this in the past two years or so...they are so much more emotive andloving than western men are.
and, being 1/2 black is a moderate to large handicap in ee with professional and upper class women...in some places it is darn near show stopping...it's only a benefit with studenkas looking for a good time or drunk women.
with obama's rapid ascension, things have notably changed for the better in ee for people in a position to capitlize on obama's image, but it still is like running a 100 yard dash against a bloke with 20 a yard lead. and in russia proper, forget about it, the postings on some russian language sites about obama's recent visit were deplorable to say the least.
DJ,
I am on your side, it just pains me that you have your priorties mixed up and are not taking corrective action. Look man, beautiful women, which is what you desire, are the rewards of success. Looks, charm, jokes, and all that other shit is is of nill import to all but a handful of young Western broads.
I told you before to drive a truck in the Sandbox for a year or two. Just click submit 100 times a day on KBR's website and you would have had been making almost six figures with no expenses and little tax liabillity by now.
The reason why you were not allowed out of the hotel is because when American lower class blacks and trailer trash whites (which is what most KBR people are) ……
:confused:
DJ4$
I know a lot of people who work for KBR. One of the nicest expats I have met worked for KBR for 5 years earning about $12,500 a month. He is now retired at 28, and living very comfortable in Manila. I know a guy who has a Bachelor's degree in Accounting and a secondary degree in carpentry who has been trying to latch onto them for years.
Most of the employees are not lowly people or trash as one poster puts it they are just people trying to get their slice just like everyone else.
DJ FourMoney
07-16-09, 20:17
dj,
i am on your side, it just pains me that you have your priorties mixed up and are not taking corrective action. look man, beautiful women, which is what you desire, are the rewards of success. looks, charm, jokes, and all that other shit is is of nill import to all but a handful of young western broads.
you want the rewards of the race without putting in the sweat and work to run the race.
you ain't the only one.
getting pussy in america ain't too tough if you have your shit together. so you need to "get it together" by any means neessary. i know it sucks, but those are the rules of the game by which we must play by;if you elect not to, ostracization is likely to follow.
you are an american and will likely live there your entire life--most people do. therefore, instead of focusing on scraping togther enough dough for a sex vacation for 8 days every year or two you should focus on your immediate enviorns.
it is never too late in america to change your plight in life.
i told you before to drive a truck in the sandbox for a year or two. just click submit 100 times a day on kbr's website and you would have had been making almost six figures with no expenses and little tax liabillity by now.
thne come back to the states, buy a nice ride...or chill in sea for three months and screw bar girls...but instead you want to stay in a no-win situation in ca with no pussy and little career prospects.
or learn it...you can make six figures in america with only an 18 month it course on your resume...they need people so bad that they import whordes of indians to run computer networks--or whatever the fuck they do.
if you wanna be a player then you need to play!
and the shit ain't rocket science, most it guys that i know spend 70% of their day fucking around all day violating the company it policy by looking at porn and japanese cartoons.
i fell on my ass some years ago , but i didn't stay there. i got back on the horse and kept moving forward.
you would be smart to heed my advice and get it before you hit 50 and are just another bitter smuck.
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a few other things: russian dudes are actually much nicer than american men are...if ivan has 500 rubles in his pocket he will give 500 to svetlana and borrow another five to give to her. i only realized this in the past two years or so...they are so much more emotive andloving than western men are.
and, being 1/2 black is a moderate to large handicap in ee with professional and upper class women...in some places it is darn near show stopping...it's only a benefit with studenkas looking for a good time or drunk women.
with obama's rapid ascension, things have notably changed for the better in ee for people in a position to capitlize on obama's image, but it still is like running a 100 yard dash against a bloke with 20 a yard lead. and in russia proper, forget about it, the postings on some russian language sites about obama's recent visit were deplorable to say the least.
oh i agree and i went to kbr's web site long ago, i no longer have my class a however.
it work has interest me before, i just might have to go that route, lord knows i don't mind being on the internet and yes my friends that have worked it download porn and music all day long assuming the system is running properly your job is done. of course downloading porn/movies/music at t1 or t3 speeds means you wanna keep the system up as to not be bothered but for the occasional printer or monitor replacement...
all points and most points man, you and other have made are taken to heart, i'm just trying to work with what i got currently that's all... plus i have decided to return to school anyway, maybe in the next 6 months and likely online.
but i should say this is not to compete for better women per say, its so i can ensure my future going forward.
DJ FourMoney
07-16-09, 20:33
:confused:
DJ4$
I know a lot of people who work for KBR. One of the nicest expats I have met worked for KBR for 5 years earning about $12,500 a month. He is now retired at 28, and living very comfortable in Manila. I know a guy who has a Bachelor's degree in Accounting and a secondary degree in carpentry who has been trying to latch onto them for years.
Most of the employees are not lowly people or trash as one poster puts it they are just people trying to get their slice just like everyone else.
The real truth is most KBR employees (and other Gov hired companies) hired after the invasion are ex-military which gives them connections to jobs after your tour of duty is up. They already know you don't mind a "War Zone" and having a complete newbie in the area might scare him enough to the first chance he/she gets to come home, they do and never come back, even at $10K a month for some personal safety is far more important... Meaning going back into the pool of potential employees again, paying for plane tickets, yadda, yadda, yadda.
Its not so much they want truck drivers, they want truck drivers that have experience in war zones or dangerous environments. All the major carriers state side are setup to grab ex-military as they are discharged to offer them jobs because they and their families are used to them being away from home. There are thousands of truck drivers that have military backgrounds, those are the people getting jobs with KBR and the other companies.
So while DD's comments about Lower class Blacks and Trailer Trash White Folk might be somewhat harsh, look at who is generally joining the military....
He's fairly accurate...
Its not so much they want truck drivers, they want truck drivers that have experience in war zones or dangerous environments. All the major carriers state side are setup to grab ex-military as they are discharged to offer them jobs because they and their families are used to them being away from home. There are thousands of truck drivers that have military backgrounds, those are the people getting jobs with KBR and the other companies.
So while DD's comments about Lower class Blacks and Trailer Trash White Folk might be somewhat harsh, look at who is generally joining the military....
He's fairly accurate...
....and look who is working at Mc Donald's,Walmart,the mall, your local mechanic or anyone with a normal 9-5 job. Not a career. Would you also label them lower class or white trash?
lower-class
2 entries found.
1. lower–class
2. lower class
Main Entry:
low•er–class
Pronunciation:
\ˌlō-ər-ˈklas\
Function:
adjective
Date:
1890
1 : of, relating to, or characteristic of the lower class 2 : being an inferior or low-ranking specimen of its kind <a lower–class theater>
I guess you got a point with that but I have a problem with that word. Especially when it is placed on a person because of their economic worth. It has a negative connotative tone. A person can become a millionaire over night does that instantly change them as a person? Deion Sanders once said money only makes you more of what you already are. Now Deion Sanders is no one important but his words do have some truth to them.
I had a buddy who I use to party with in Pattaya who was non ex-military and he got a job with some company not KBR in Iraq paying about $20,000 a month. This guy had no college degree and was under 24. Yeah he was from the hood.
So what are we discussing here? Socioeconomics? Money?
So when the lower class guy gets a six figure job is he still lower class or what about the Wall Street Broker who is let go by his firm and has to get a job at Mc Donald’s?
Why would a middle class or rich class (socioeconomically) person join the military? But some do. Most contracting positions are filled by people from all walks of life. I have met people with multiple degrees to some people fresh out of high school.
I know one guy who is contracting and has over million dollars in capital/real-estate assets.
Like I said all walks of life.
ThatGuy865
07-17-09, 02:16
First of all fellas. You have to have a college degree to be an officer in the military. So are all of them low lifes. And there are officers of every race.
Secondly there are a lot of people who just don't have money for college especially with the large number of single parent families now and the high cost of college. The military gives big sign up bonuses, free education while you are in the military and money towards your education when you leave.
For many its just another option to get an education also on the job training. Just about every job on the outside there is a military counterpart. Not everyone is in the infantry. There is IT, Medics, Admin, etc etc etd.
The military is no longer about just the poor and under class. You got it confused with the military of old. When there was a draft.
DJ FourMoney
07-17-09, 07:50
....and look who is working at Mc Donald's,Walmart,the mall, your local mechanic or anyone with a normal 9-5 job. Not a career. Would you also label them lower class or white trash?
lower-class
2 entries found.
1. lower–class
2. lower class
Main Entry:
low•er–class
Pronunciation:
\ˌlō-ər-ˈklas\
Function:
adjective
Date:
1890
1 : of, relating to, or characteristic of the lower class 2 : being an inferior or low-ranking specimen of its kind <a lower–class theater>
I guess you got a point with that but I have a problem with that word. Especially when it is placed on a person because of their economic worth. It has a negative connotative tone. A person can become a millionaire over night does that instantly change them as a person? Deion Sanders once said money only makes you more of what you already are. Now Deion Sanders is no one important but his words do have some truth to them.
I had a buddy who I use to party with in Pattaya who was non ex-military and he got a job with some company not KBR in Iraq paying about $20,000 a month. This guy had no college degree and was under 24. Yeah he was from the hood.
So what are we discussing here? Socioeconomics? Money?
So when the lower class guy gets a six figure job is he still lower class or what about the Wall Street Broker who is let go by his firm and has to get a job at Mc Donald’s?
Why would a middle class or rich class (socioeconomically) person join the military? But some do. Most contracting positions are filled by people from all walks of life. I have met people with multiple degrees to some people fresh out of high school.
I know one guy who is contracting and has over million dollars in capital/real-estate assets.
Like I said all walks of life.
I didn't do that DD brought it up, blame him... To him everything is tied to money.
:)
1. No, everything is not about money;however, there is a positive correlation between money, wealth, power, and beautiful women.
For most men, money is the easiest thing to get to attract hot women.
In the 2nd and 3rd world, the trappings of wealth make up about 85%-100% of the equation; in the first world, between 30%-80% of the equation. It's not so much about the Range Rover but about financial stability and security.
To argue the contrary is asinine and unfruitful.
2. The vast majority of KBR type contracctors in war zones could not have a profesional career in the States or the developed world. KBR mostly looks for warm bodies. The quality of people is fairly low.
Military experience is not necessary to work for a KBR type firm--a pulse and non-felonious record is.
Most middle and upper class Americans will not work for and live under the conditions that KBR type people do in conflict zones. Some should, as one can make some major bank, but most won't.
The few that do are mostly adventerists, wonderlusts, or want to get the fuck away from their wives.
3. Yes, one can be a lower class dirtbag with money. One can also be a well edcuated and rich person with little class, but the former is more prevalent than the latter. A prime example that I recently observed was in Bishkek--KBR type Americans making 68k-80k a year who were uneducated, unsophisticated, and classless who turned off the local population en masse.
Not all of these guys are dirtbags, but too many of them are.
Frankypanky
07-18-09, 13:36
Dj4Money,
Let me correct you on one thing. I don't feel that you are a loser. But I think. When dealing with women especially AW its all about attitude. If you approach them with confidence, and have a little conversation of interest. No matter what your financial situation is you can score, even with beautiful AW. Will you get every one you try to talk to. Of course not. Be have to be realistic, what do you bring to the relationship. You have to bring more than just a Dick, Beautiful Woman can get that any and everywhere for free. So if you're not going to bring money to the relationship, than you have to have personality.
I make a decent $, but I never used money as a means to meet women. I drive a car which is over 10 years old with dents in it. It runs like a dream. So I see no reason to buy a new one When you meet a woman its usually inside so they don'e see your car at first, and if after we meet and talk, if she see's my car and then doesn't want to be with me because my car is beneath her standards. My attitude is "get to steppin *****", I don't need you anyway.
I believe its in a womans nature to want to fix/help a man in the first place. So as long as a woman feels that you are looking to do better, most will stand by you, If you display self confidence, seem to have goals. And also some good "Dicking" goes a long way too.
I can't think of one time where a car got me laid. But I've had many a nights where after some conversation and a few drinks, it was off to her place or mine.
I agree into a lot of your story!
Although I live in Europe, Euro-women behave the same way as AW (obviously)!!!
BUT...But, communication doesn't seems to be a strong side of lots of women! I try it with a neutral sense of humor, but somehow women do not tend to communicate well.
"But I like to chat a lot"...Yeah right, but how about opening your mouth on a date (and say somrthing smart)?!?
Or...Maybe I do not meet the right women???
How about USA, 865?
I didn't do that DD brought it up, blame him... To him everything is tied to money.
:)
For the record: I think physical appearance, money, and especially wealth (because you grandpa earned it, not you) are shallow and imperfect indicators of success and happiness.
The girl that I love and think about every day is a Moldovan of average looks, no higher education, and is poor. She didn't care about big bucks or running off to America, only to find a decent person that would respect, love, and take care of her.
But I blew it big time and will likely have to go through my life without my soulmate because of my barbaric behaivor a few years ago.
A sad but likley true statement. Tough shit for me.
Each person should focus on finding a partner that is perfect for them and not focus on superfical shit.
JMHO
Legal Tender
07-18-09, 18:48
For the record: I think physical appearance, money, and especially wealth (because you grandpa earned it, not you) are shallow and imperfect indicators of success and happiness.
The girl that I love and think about every day is a Moldovan of average looks, no higher education, and is poor. She didn't care about big bucks or running off to America, only to find a decent person that would respect, love, and take care of her.
But I blew it big time and will likely have to go through my life without my soulmate because of my barbaric behaivor a few years ago.
A sad but likley true statement. Tough shit for me.
Each person should focus on finding a partner that is perfect for them and not focus on superfical shit.
JMHO
My friend, stop living in the past. "Barbaric behaivor" ? I don't know what you did, but you're not in jail, which is my litmus test. Forgive yourself so one doesn't enjoy being the victim too long.
The "perfect" partner is the one that we chose to love. I'm trying to find at least one woman from every populated continent to love. So far, a former Latvian model, a Colombian revolutionary, and a former contestant in the Miss Liberian contest. I don't think I will have time to make it to Australia. I'm am not trying to compare myself to anyone, but to plead that we all live today and not in the past. Life is too short.
Only good energy!
ThatGuy865
07-18-09, 22:56
For the record: I think physical appearance, money, and especially wealth (because you grandpa earned it, not you) are shallow and imperfect indicators of success and happiness.
The girl that I love and think about every day is a Moldovan of average looks, no higher education, and is poor. She didn't care about big bucks or running off to America, only to find a decent person that would respect, love, and take care of her.
But I blew it big time and will likely have to go through my life without my soulmate because of my barbaric behaivor a few years ago.
JMHOI would say she couldn't have been your "True" soulmate or you would not have messed it up. And if you did and you two were truely soulmates, no matter what you did, she would take you back.
We all have that girl we like to think back to, the ones we fucked up with and imagine that it would have been great "Only if".
Well most of the time those "Only if" turn out not to be what you/we imagine them to be. As time goes by you remember only the good times and erase whatever it was that made you mess it up in the first place.
You never know how the relationship might have changed over the years. Everyone in those first years swear they have met their Soul Mate. Then marry to only find out 5, 10, sometimes 20 years down the road. They no longer can be around that so called "Soul mate".
I alway say if it was meant to be. Then it WILL be. Otherwise something was missing.
Not trying to argue. Just giving a thought to consider.
Thatguy
ThatGuy865
07-18-09, 23:02
I agree into a lot of your story!
Although I live in Europe, Euro-women behave the same way as AW (obviously)!!!
BUT...But, communication doesn't seems to be a strong side of lots of women! I try it with a neutral sense of humor, but somehow women do not tend to communicate well.
"But I like to chat a lot"...Yeah right, but how about opening your mouth on a date (and say somrthing smart)?
Or...Maybe I do not meet the right women?
How about USA, 865?Franky,
I would say its the approach or the topic of your conversations.
Its hard for me to say because I have not seen how you approach a women or what it is you say to these women.
I will say ... Keep on trying .. Don't worry .. after awhile you will either meet a women with the same interest, or you will find a topic which engages these women.
Thatguy
DJ FourMoney
07-20-09, 12:00
For the record: I think physical appearance, money, and especially wealth (because you grandpa earned it, not you) are shallow and imperfect indicators of success and happiness.
The girl that I love and think about every day is a Moldovan of average looks, no higher education, and is poor. She didn't care about big bucks or running off to America, only to find a decent person that would respect, love, and take care of her.
But I blew it big time and will likely have to go through my life without my soulmate because of my barbaric behaivor a few years ago.
A sad but likley true statement. Tough shit for me.
Each person should focus on finding a partner that is perfect for them and not focus on superfical shit.
JMHO
The song "One Love" by Woodini comes to mind.
I agree with you DD, largely you know that.
I personally think that there is but ONE you perfectly match with 100%. If you find her, great, if you don't, its not so bad, you compromise.
That's where a larger pool of women come into play. But I don't believe you should "settle" for less than a 95% match. Anything less and that's giving too much away.
Thatguy -
While I blocked your messages they still get through when people quote you and your last post made the most sense in awhile and I agree. You have to bring something to the table, but I think what we have usually have been saying around here is that AW largely bring NOTHING to the table.
DJ, A few other things: Russian dudes are actually much nicer than American men are...if Ivan has 500 rubles in his pocket he will give 500 to Svetlana and borrow another five to give to her. I only realized this in the past two years or so...they are so much more emotive andloving than Western men are.
Wrong......I've heard quite the opposite from more than a few Russian women. Most agree that Russian men are drunks and abusive, both mentally and physically, towards women.
Wrong......I've heard quite the opposite from more than a few Russian women. Most agree that Russian men are drunks and abusive, both mentally and physically, towards women.
I'm sorry, I did a quick search and can't find any posts of your's from the FSU. Before I engage you, please tell me how long you have worked/lived in the FSU and in what capacity.
I'm sorry, I did a quick search and can't find any posts of yours from the FSU. Before I engage you, please tell me how long you have worked/lived in the FSU and in what capacity.
Please go back and reread my post. The key words are, "I've heard this from a few Russian women".....Got it.
Please go back and reread my post. The key words are, "I've heard this from a few Russian women".....Got it.If it's Russian women who are in the USA, then it's a small % out of all, and also it's a different type of women those who decided to migrate to USA for some reason. Many of those who stay at home may have very different point of view.
Most agree that Russian men are drunks and abusive, both mentally and physically, towards women.This is just a non sense. Of course there are some men are like that, but you can't generalize.
Your point of view is valid, it depends on what you want. I want a wife/partner for life and a family so it's important to me that I breed with someone with brains who is pretty.
I would personally have a hard time dating an uber-ambitious woman. For me, an ideal lady would be someone who is well educated and comes from money but does not want a career in corporate America.Yes, definitely, it depends on what you want. In my opinion to have good time FSU and Latin America are the best.
To find a a wife/partner for life a place like Uzbekistan can be good, as you know it well:) There are still educated beautiful girls can be found with good family values. My ex wife was from there, and I could not find anything even resembling her in USA. But of course there are also now many "bad" girls, some of them pretend to be good and virgins, live with parents, study in a university, but they fuck during day time for $25. We had good time with those chicks, I was kinda sorry to their boyfriends, and one had a fiance who was thinking she was a virgin. She was laughing about this:)
USA turns out for me is neither good for fun nor for family.
It can be a good source of money if you do not fall into the "American dream" trap and get enslaved by banks and corporations.
If it's Russian women who are in the USA, then it's a small % out of all, and also it's a different type of women those who decided to migrate to USA for some reason. Many of those who stay at home may have very different point of view.
Russian Men Drink Themselves To The Grave
http://social.moldova.org/news/high-mortality-among-russian-men-undercuts-pronatalist-policies-201992-eng.html
MOSCOW (June 25) — A new study by an international team of public health researchers documents the devastating impact of alcohol abuse on Russia — showing that drinking caused more than half of deaths among Russians aged 15 to 54 in the turbulent era following the Soviet collapse. The 52 percent figure compares to estimates that less than 4 percent of deaths worldwide are caused by alcohol abuse, according to the study by Russian, British and French researchers published in Friday's edition of the British medical journal The Lancet.
Nearly half of Russia’s working-age men who die are drinking themselves to the grave with almost anything they can get their hands on.
According to a new medical study, Russian men are dying from alcohol abuse by drinking anything from vodka to eau de cologne, antiseptics and medicinal tinctures. Some products contain 95 per cent alcohol by volume, equating to 200 proof.
According to Reuters report, researchers tracked 1750 men who died between 2003 and 2005 in Izhevsk, an industrial city of about 700,000 people in the Ural mountains, and an equal number of men who were still alive. Writing in the Lancet medical journal, researchers concluded that dangerous drinking caused 43 per cent of deaths of men aged 25 to 54 in Izhevsk.
The researchers viewed dangerous drinking as heavy consumption of alcoholic beverages, such as vodka and beer, as well as consumption of products containing large concentrations of alcohol, like medical tinctures, colognes and cleaning agents.
“Life expectancy in Russian men today is 58 years,” Leon said “It’s lower than the level of men in Bangladesh, a Third World country.
Men who drank alcohol excessively or who drank non-beverage alcohol were found to be six times more likely to die than men who did not drink at all or did not drink heavily.
If the results for this city can be generalised to the whole country, Leon said, this pattern of excessive drinking may be causing 170,000 deaths a year in Russia.
Russian men and domestic violence
My Quote:
I've heard quite the opposite from more than a few Russian women. Most agree that Russian men are drunks and abusive, both mentally and physically, towards women.
Your Quote:
This is just a non sense. Of course there are some men are like that, but you can't generalize.
My proof: http://www.amnesty.org/russia/womens_day.html
Every DAY 36,000 women in the Russian Federation are beaten by their husbands or partners. Every forty minutes a Russian woman is killed by domestic violence. Official figures say domestic violence is part of the life of every fourth Russian family.
Russian Men Drink Themselves To The Grave
http://social.moldova.org/news/high-mortality-among-russian-men-undercuts-pronatalist-policies-201992-eng.html
Russian men and domestic violence
My proof: http://www.amnesty.org/russia/womens_day.html
Every DAY 36,000 women in the Russian Federation are beaten by their husbands or partners. Every forty minutes a Russian woman is killed by domestic violence. Official figures say domestic violence is part of the life of every fourth Russian family.How do you know that those websites( http://www.amnesty.org ) tell the truth?
Check this out: Amnesty International Caught in "One Big Lie" http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/jun/09062607.html
So maybe your proof is not very valid. It looks like feminist propaganda. They exaggerate the facts and present them to you the way the want you to see. They do the same in USA, right? Like American women suffer all the time from men. Do you believe it too?
Ok, while I agree there are some men like that, but you obviously have not been there and do not know what is the reality.
I know personally dozens guys from FSU, only one of them fits your questionable "proofs".
I also know many women in FSU, I cannot recall one of them complaining about Russian guys and willing to get married with a western guy in order to move out of Russia. Actually a few had this idea, probably 1-2 have actually moved out(still not because of the reasons you talk about) and the rest changed their mind. All of them have local boyfriends or husbands and nothing like your "proof" tells.
how do you know that those websites( http://www.amnesty.org ) tell the truth?
check this out: amnesty international caught in "one big lie" http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/jun/09062607.html
so maybe your proof is not very valid. it looks like feminist propaganda. they exaggerate the facts and present them to you the way the want you to see. they do the same in usa, right? like american women suffer all the time from men. do you believe it too?
i wish you had quoted the entire statement.
amnesty international caught in "one big lie"
polish girl was not raped, was not harassed by pro-lifers, was pressured to abort
seriously, what do you expect from a rabid right wing pro life news rag. you have your opinion, i have mine. i'm not going to waste my time arguing with you over a study published by amnesty international, the most credible, premier human rights organization in the world.
lifesitenews is a pro life organization, they state they are against attacks on life and family. i doubt lifesitenews would refute this study published by amnesty international.
every day 36,000 women in the russian federation are beaten by their husbands or partners. every forty minutes a russian woman is killed by domestic violence. official figures say domestic violence is part of the life of every fourth russian family.
russia population: 140,041,247 (july 2009 cia est.)
russian women beaten by husbands and partners: 14,000,000+/- per yr
number of russian females age 15-64 years: 52,142,313
so from my very conservative calculations anywhere between 25-40% of russian women are physically abused by husbands and bf's.
fyi......lifesitenews.com is also rabidly anti exploitation of women aka anti-prostitution. in summary, they want complete control over a woman's body and our dicks....no thanks.
lifesitenews.com was originally started by campaign life coalition (clc), a canadian national pro-life organization headquartered in toronto, canada. campaign life coalition, founded in 1978, was one of the first pro-life organizations to emphasize the international dimension of attacks on life and family.
lifesitenews.com understands that abortion, euthanasia, cloning, homosexuality and all other moral, life and family issues are part of the international conflict affecting all nations, even at the most local levels.
now, can we please get back to chasing pussy's and talking about american women.
DJ FourMoney
07-23-09, 02:43
How do you know that those websites( http://www.amnesty.org ) tell the truth?
Check this out: Amnesty International Caught in "One Big Lie" http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/jun/09062607.html
So maybe your proof is not very valid. It looks like feminist propaganda. They exaggerate the facts and present them to you the way the want you to see. They do the same in USA, right? Like American women suffer all the time from men. Do you believe it too?
Ok, while I agree there are some men like that, but you obviously have not been there and do not know what is the reality.
I know personally dozens guys from FSU, only one of them fits your questionable "proofs".
I also know many women in FSU, I cannot recall one of them complaining about Russian guys and willing to get married with a western guy in order to move out of Russia. Actually a few had this idea, probably 1-2 have actually moved out(still not because of the reasons you talk about) and the rest changed their mind. All of them have local boyfriends or husbands and nothing like your "proof" tells.
I agree that most women in FSU are not looking to come over here or marry a Westerner.
However I did say MOST, that means a small minority ARE interested in doing just that.
That small minority could be as many as a million or more women.....
Considering how many men are actually going all the way through with visiting these women, pales to how many are seriously looking, capish?
Chocha Monger
07-28-09, 02:10
When immigrants with a pot to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) start leaving the U.S. you know that we have a problem.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32172403/ns/business-world_business//
A guy in pittsburgh open fires on women in a gym glass because he hasn't gotten laid in 19 years. He said women don't find him desirable and that he hasn't had a girlfriend since 1984. Has anybody on this thread noticed that story ?
It's an american classic ...better than MGM.
An excerpt from Pittsburgh gunman George Sodini's (interesting surname) blog:
"Dec. 29, 2008: "Just got back from tanning, been doing this for a while. No gym today, my elbow is sore again. I actually look good. I dress good, am clean-shaven, bathe, touch of cologne — yet 30 million women rejected me — over an 18 or 25-year period. That is how I see it. ... A man needs a woman for confidence. ... This type of life I see is a closed world with me specifically and totally excluded."
Obviously he had a bad choice of cologne. And if you need a woman for confidence - what can one say.
No-one should exit in this way, condolences to the families left behind.
However, it was reassuring to see the cops outwitting Sherlock Holmes: "Allegheny County police Superintendent Charles Moffatt said. "I think he went in with the idea of doing what he did." You think????
Suerte!
Polvo
A guy in pittsburgh open fires on women in a gym glass because he hasn't gotten laid in 19 years. He said women don't find him desirable and that he hasn't had a girlfriend since 1984. Has anybody on this thread noticed that story ?
It's an american classic ...better than MGM.
Yeah, for me what's strange is that I just got back to the States after being in Asia for 14 months and this is the story that's all over the news, guy doesn't get laid in 19 years and so he goes crazy and kills some women. And at a gym, no less! Those women were probably the only non-obese ones in that whole city.
What's really odd is that the guy looks decent in his picture the press has released, tan, fit. Apparently he had a good job, too. But he couldn't get a woman! Only in America, I guess.
Anyways, I'm actually convinced it's a sign from the monger-gods that I need to get back overseas ASAP. Thank you, monger-gods!
A guy in pittsburgh open fires on women in a gym glass because he hasn't gotten laid in 19 years. He said women don't find him desirable and that he hasn't had a girlfriend since 1984. Has anybody on this thread noticed that story ?
It's an american classic ...better than MGM.
I guess Pittsburgh is the one place in the world without P4P. After 19 years I doubt the plumbing would have been working anyway. This was one SICK, SICK, DUDE.
If he was gonna pick a gym to kill some AW, why not "Curves?" I think once since I moved down here I went 19 hours without getting laid. I did go 15 months in the Yew Ess and it was not a pretty sight, but I don't like guns.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collier_Township_Shooting_of_2009
Mayne all you had to do was become an ISG member and hang out with Warbucks in Manila. Would have changed your life son.
R.I. mother-fucking P
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collier_Township_Shooting_of_2009
Mayne all you had to do was become an ISG member and hang out with Warbucks in Manila. Would have changed your life son.
R.I. mother-fucking Pyou guys argue too much. Here is a some pussy to look at.
Jelly Donut
08-05-09, 23:52
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collier_Township_Shooting_of_2009
Mayne all you had to do was become an ISG member and hang out with Warbucks in Manila. Would have changed your life son.
R.I. mother-fucking P
Exactly. I was thinking the same thing. The guy was not dealing with a full deck, but ISG might have kept him off that path.
Chocha Monger
08-05-09, 23:56
a guy in pittsburgh open fires on women in a gym glass because he hasn't gotten laid in 19 years. he said women don't find him desirable and that he hasn't had a girlfriend since 1984. has anybody on this thread noticed that story ?
it's an american classic ...better than mgm.
an armed and sexually deprived citizenry makes for a high likelihood the occurrence of acts of senseless violence. - chocha monger, 2009
president john f. kennedy fucked numerous women and had a traveling secretary who could not type a single word to attend to his sexual needs. we averted imminent nuclear war with the soviets during the cuban missile crisis.
president bill clinton had his dick sucked by monica lewinksy in the oval office. we did not invade iraq for his entire term in spite of much saber rattling and provocative rhetoric from saddam hussein.
it's clear that a sexually satisfied nation and leadership are much less inclined to do violence.
while sexual expression is allowed in the us, obtaining actual sex is not as easy as it seems. sex is heavily regulated, carries severe penalties, and not easily accessible with desirable women. of course, there are porn shops, strip clubs, skimpily dressed young women and phone sex but it is all tease and no substance. everything but real sex is available. even attractive guys with good incomes can lead a sexless existence. most of these guys would never pay for it even if they knew how to do so without breaking the law.
to get laid these guys have to date. if a guy dates in america it is not enough to buy expensive wine, lobster and fillet mignon for dinner. that hardly means that he is going to get laid even after 3 or 4 dates. there is something he needs to have to get pussy. in fact, he needs it just to get beyond "hello" with an american woman. don't even mention getting the correct telephone number. all along the way the possibility of rejection is ever present.
what is this mysterious thing that he needs so badly? well, it's called "game." no one really knows what game is but some say it's the ability to bullshit a woman, get her laughing and eventually make her drop her drawers long enough without crying [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). there is even a multi-million dollar industry built around teaching american guys game. the american dating scene is brutal. throw an otherwise normal guy in there with sensitive feelings, subject him to years of rejection and you just might get a real psychopath out at the other end.
now, what george sodini did was reprehensible. one can't justify going out and gunning down innocent people just because one didn't get pussy for two decades. sodini chose to limit himself to the american dating scene. he was an it professional so i'm sure he was well aware of the other options out there, maybe even isg. it would be interesting to see what these posters who claim that the american woman dating scene is the best in the world have to say about this. these posters always defend the home scene but i notice they're traveling and fucking abroad. maybe their real agenda is to get the rest of us to stay home.
everything but real sex is available. even attractive guys with good incomes can lead a sexless existence. most of these guys would never pay for it even if they knew how to do so without breaking the law.
to get laid these guys have to date. if a guy dates in america it is not enough to buy expensive wine, lobster and fillet mignon for dinner. that hardly means that he is going to get laid even after 3 or 4 dates. there is something he needs to have to get pussy. in fact, he needs it just to get beyond "hello" with an american woman. don't even mention getting the correct telephone number. all along the way the possibility of rejection is ever present.
what is this mysterious thing that he needs so badly? well, it's called "game." no one really knows what game is but some say it's the ability to bullshit a woman, get her laughing and eventually make her drop her drawers long enough without crying [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123).
there's a lot of truth in this report, but i don't think it is all that hard to get laid in the us, because there are so many frustrated women too, but the vast majority of women in the us demand a very high price, which is called monogamy, faithfulness, etc. there aren't a lot of women, especially outside of the college crowd, who will go for one-off casual sex where there is no pretense that it is anything else.
getting her laughing is often the first step to seduction, but mostly it is to do with money. if a woman believes she can attain a more affluent lifestyle by associating with you, then she is probably available.
remember that even notables such as hugh grant, soccer star ronaldo, mick jagger, and silvio berlusconi are known to have associated with paid providers, so really there is no disgrace in turning to pfp for casual sexual experiences, if you can't get them for free. hardly anyone can, and i would say that the women in the states who do have frequent casual sex are often mentally unstable, drug-addicted, alcoholic, or otherwise impaired. they are rarely the kind of life loving free spirits of our dreams.
an armed and sexually deprived citizenry makes for a high likelihood the occurrence of acts of senseless violence. - chocha monger, 2009
president john f. kennedy fucked numerous women and had a traveling secretary who could not type a single word to attend to his sexual needs. we averted imminent nuclear war with the soviets during the cuban missile crisis.
president bill clinton had his dick sucked by monica lewinksy in the oval office. we did not invade iraq for his entire term in spite of much saber rattling and provocative rhetoric from saddam hussein.
it's clear that a sexually satisfied nation and leadership are much less inclined to do violence.
while sexual expression is allowed in the us, obtaining actual sex is not as easy as it seems. sex is heavily regulated, carries severe penalties, and not easily accessible with desirable women. of course, there are porn shops, strip clubs, skimpily dressed young women and phone sex but it is all tease and no substance. everything but real sex is available. even attractive guys with good incomes can lead a sexless existence. most of these guys would never pay for it even if they knew how to do so without breaking the law.
to get laid these guys have to date. if a guy dates in america it is not enough to buy expensive wine, lobster and fillet mignon for dinner. that hardly means that he is going to get laid even after 3 or 4 dates. there is something he needs to have to get pussy. in fact, he needs it just to get beyond "hello" with an american woman. don't even mention getting the correct telephone number. all along the way the possibility of rejection is ever present.
what is this mysterious thing that he needs so badly? well, it's called "game." no one really knows what game is but some say it's the ability to bullshit a woman, get her laughing and eventually make her drop her drawers long enough without crying [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). there is even a multi-million dollar industry built around teaching american guys game. the american dating scene is brutal. throw an otherwise normal guy in there with sensitive feelings, subject him to years of rejection and you just might get a real psychopath out at the other end.
now, what george sodini did was reprehensible. one can't justify going out and gunning down innocent people just because one didn't get pussy for two decades. sodini chose to limit himself to the american dating scene. he was an it professional so i'm sure he was well aware of the other options out there, maybe even isg. it would be interesting to see what these posters who claim that the american woman dating scene is the best in the world have to say about this. these posters always defend the home scene but i notice they're traveling and fucking abroad. maybe their real agenda is to get the rest of us to stay home.
i totally agree. the usa is a breeding ground for sick shit like this. maybe if he had the money or someplace to go to let off steam this wouldn't have happened. after all he was a decent looking guy with a good job, works out and has half a brain. there is no reason a guy like this should not have pussy. the fact that he had all that and it still didn't work out for him fucked his head up.
as far as 19 years of not getting laid i believe it. if you don't have money are average looking and not that social you will get squat and it will be accepted as a failure on your part.
i think going postal in the gym is absurd. he probably left every night with blue balls.
To quote the great 20th century American philosopher, Eddie Murphy, "Lack of pussy makes you brave." This fucking chicken shit coward didn't know anything about that. Don't kill a bunch of strangers with a gun. Guns are for cowards anyway. Pack your bags and get the fuck out. If this clown was an "IT professional" he had money and portable skills. There's no excuse for this type of random violence. AWs aren't worth dying for. You want to die for a woman, move to Latin America and try to fuck yourself to death. I had a half Méxican, half Argentinean woman over last night/this morning and we were reading this story. She was looking at his picture and saying, "I would fuck him" and I said "he couldn't handle you" and she asked me if it was really that bad between the M and the F in the US and I said no, the guy's a loser but it ain't good.
She's been trying to fuck me to death for five years now but I guess that's harder than it sounds.
You look at the typical Western Christian marriage vow of "Til death do us part" and I think it should be "Til death do us fuck!" Then people might not get so fat and apathetic.
......... He was an IT professional so I'm sure he was well aware of the other options out there, maybe even ISG......
ISG is harder to find than one might think. However, I wonder if the Obamaism stimulus package could be extended to pay for a free ISG membership for all the poor bastard males in the US - "Cash for C*nts". A real stimulus package!
Trouble is then these poor bastards would be stamping all over our world raising prices. We would then have to kill them. Hmmm. Bit of a Gordian knot this one!
Suerte!
Polvo
Chocha Monger
08-06-09, 07:19
ISG is harder to find than one might think. However, I wonder if the Obamaism stimulus package could be extended to pay for a free ISG membership for all the poor bastard males in the US - "Cash for C*nts". A real stimulus package!
Trouble is then these poor bastards would be stamping all over our world raising prices. We would then have to kill them. Hmmm. Bit of a Gordian knot this one!
Suerte!
Polvo
That's too funny Polvo! :D Prices have finally reversed the upward trend of the previous years. Many mongers are sticking close to home and making less trips. A stimulus would surely cause a huge price spike as hordes of overpaying newbies rush popular monger spots fists full of dollars and minds ignorant of going rates.
an armed and sexually deprived citizenry makes for a high likelihood the occurrence of acts of senseless violence. - chocha monger, 2009
this guy was a nutcase but what is funny is that he fits the profile of the typical sex tourist except the bald and fat part.
president john f. kennedy fucked numerous women and had a traveling secretary who could not type a single word to attend to his sexual needs. we averted imminent nuclear war with the soviets during the cuban missile crisis.
because the russians backed down. not because he was getting his dick wet.
president bill clinton had his dick sucked by monica lewinksy in the oval office. we did not invade iraq for his entire term in spite of much saber rattling and provocative rhetoric from saddam hussein.
yep but there was the somalia incident bosnia, sudan and other shit that happened on his watch.
it's clear that a sexually satisfied nation and leadership are much less inclined to do violence.
there are a lot of guys not getting laid in various countries and they don't wild out like this guy did he was just a loose cannon.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/relationships/sexless-in-japan/2006/06/22/1150845297202.html
while sexual expression is allowed in the us, obtaining actual sex is not as easy as it seems. sex is heavily regulated, carries severe penalties, and not easily accessible with desirable women. of course, there are porn shops, strip clubs, skimpily dressed young women and phone sex but it is all tease and no substance. everything but real sex is available. even attractive guys with good incomes can lead a sexless existence. most of these guys would never pay for it even if they knew how to do so without breaking the law.
i never outright paid for sex in the states and probably never will. i have a childhood friend who is all of about 5ft 4” 135ibs soaking wet, he is a manager for local company in my city nothing to brag about but he always seem to have fine educated black women down with him. now he is considered handsome by a lot of women but he is a no nonsense type of fellow. a man's man.
to get laid these guys have to date. if a guy dates in america it is not enough to buy expensive wine, lobster and fillet mignon for dinner. that hardly means that he is going to get laid even after 3 or 4 dates. there is something he needs to have to get pussy. in fact, he needs it just to get beyond "hello" with an american woman. don't even mention getting the correct telephone number. all along the way the possibility of rejection is ever present
what is this mysterious thing that he needs so badly? well, it's called "game." no one really knows what game is but some say it's the ability to bullshit a woman, get her laughing and eventually make her drop her drawers long enough without crying [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). there is even a multi-million dollar industry built around teaching american guys game. the american dating scene is brutal. throw an otherwise normal guy in there with sensitive feelings, subject him to years of rejection and you just might get a real psychopath out at the other end..
yeah some guys just are just “smooth” bruh....know how to dress, talk, walk, emotionally and mentally secure etc, and as for others well....one of the main reasons this site is so popular.
now, what george sodini did was reprehensible. one can't justify going out and gunning down innocent people just because one didn't get pussy for two decades. sodini chose to limit himself to the american dating scene. he was an it professional so i'm sure he was well aware of the other options out there, maybe even isg. it would be interesting to see what these posters who claim that the american woman dating scene is the best in the world have to say about this. these posters always defend the home scene but i notice they're traveling and fucking abroad. maybe their real agenda is to get the rest of us to stay home.
yeah that shit was fucked up and i don't blame the american dating scene for him doing this. you always have options i don't care what your situation is. i know guys broke, ugly as all fuck and they somehow manage to bag american chicks.
now of course the us is not bangkok, dubai or manila where you can find pussy hanging on every corner unless you are a celebrity but their are guys there doing just fine. we mongers like to sport fuck. now this can be very difficult to pull off in states. all you guys looking at ole boy photos talking about he didn't look bad. dude don't look like coolest mother-fucker either. giving broads the bizness with a firearm is not the bizness.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bizness
meatloaf just made two great post about why the usa is not a sex prison. chocha neither you or dh called him on it. i have been saying this for the last few months but whenever me and “that guy” did you dh and dj4$ got out the posting hammer and beat me and him over the head with it. it seems meatloaf is a worthy adversary.
as for keeping you guys home i welcome all you guys to go abroad fuck yourself silly instead of giving in to societal demands and getting bogged down with the wife and rug rats. if you in manila pm me i anit hiding.
DJ FourMoney
08-06-09, 14:42
There's a lot of truth in this report, but I don't think it is all that hard to get laid in the US, because there are so many frustrated women too, but the vast majority of women in the US demand a very high price, which is called monogamy, faithfulness, etc. There aren't a lot of women, especially outside of the college crowd, who will go for one-off casual sex where there is no pretense that it is anything else.
Getting her laughing is often the first step to seduction, but mostly it is to do with money. If a woman believes she can attain a more affluent lifestyle by associating with you, then she is probably available.
Remember that even notables such as Hugh Grant, soccer star Ronaldo, Mick Jagger, and Silvio Berlusconi are known to have associated with paid providers, so really there is no disgrace in turning to PFP for casual sexual experiences, if you can't get them for free. Hardly anyone can, and I would say that the women in the states who do have frequent casual sex are often mentally unstable, drug-addicted, alcoholic, or otherwise impaired. They are rarely the kind of life loving free spirits of our dreams.
I agree and it gets back to the core arguments for NOT dating in America.
Even if you work hard and make a decent amount of money, too many women are seduced by what they have seen on TV.
This is mostly a problem with women under 30. It becomes less of a problem as they get older, we've been over that too.
Bee -
Thanks for the reminder, that's about as close as I'll get to any pussy in the next week or so.
here comes daddy rich guy with his "mongers are fat and bald" speech. there are a lot of fat people in the world, unfortunately, and more all the time. obviously i meet a lot of mongers down here and i think a lower percentage are fat, as compared to the general population. i think a higher percentage go to the gym and stay in shape. it does seem there are a lot of bald mongers but i'd be a little careful there, rich guy; you're only 30 or so and you might go bald and regret what you've said. weight can be controlled but hair loss cannot be. i myself am not bald but certainly my hairline has receded (gracefully) a bit over the years. i don't think most women have near as much of a problem with bald guys as bald guys themselves fear.
i must say the women in my gym here are not that cute overall and very few of them are working out very hard. mostly walking on the treadmill or bicycling at a low level while reading magazines. why go to a gym to walk? i don't get it.
Well, living in Calgary which is the absolute sexhell of the world, while there is no excuse at all to kill innocent people, certainly going years without a date is the norm. I like to think I am in pretty good shape, (not bald, for sure!!), and always in the gym, and have a good business, but in this town, it doesn't matter who or what you are, the simple fact is that women here prefer the company of other women, men are at best a nuisance, and worst something to be completely avoided.
I've gone seven years without a date, and have numerous buddies who are in exactly the same situation. Then, when one does hook up, there is always the everpresent fear that she is out to get you for what you've got, once they try and move in with you, look out for at least half of what you own. Even guys I know who I would describe as very good looking (and I am certainly not gay), with money, and style, strike out here all the time. It is a useless expenditure of energy, and why I have been flying around the world enjoying lovely latinas for the last five years
Chocha Monger
08-06-09, 18:35
This guy was a nutcase but what is funny is that he fits the profile of the typical sex tourist except the bald and fat part.
Because the Russians backed down. Not because he was getting his dick wet.
Yep but there was the Somalia incident Bosnia, Sudan and other shit that happened on his watch.
There are a lot of guys not getting laid in various countries and they don't wild out like this guy did he was just a loose cannon.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/relationships/sexless-in-japan/2006/06/22/1150845297202.html
I never outright paid for sex in the States and probably never will. I have a childhood friend who is all of about 5ft 4” 135IBs soaking wet, he is a manager for local company in my city nothing to brag about but he always seem to have fine educated Black women down with him. Now he is considered handsome by a lot of women but he is a no nonsense type of fellow. A man's man.
Yeah some guys just are just “smooth” bruh....Know how to dress, talk, walk, emotionally and mentally secure etc, and as for others well....one of the main reasons this site is so popular.
Yeah that shit was fucked up and I don't blame the American dating scene for him doing this. You always have options I don't care what your situation is. I know guys broke, ugly as all fuck and they somehow manage to bag American chicks.
Now of course The US is not Bangkok, Dubai or Manila where you can find pussy hanging on every corner unless you are a celebrity but their are guys there doing just fine. We mongers like to sport fuck. Now this can be very difficult to pull off in States. All you guys looking at Ole boy photos talking about he didn't look bad. Dude don't look like coolest mother-fucker either. Giving broads the bizness with a firearm is not the bizness.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bizness
Meatloaf just made two great post about why the USA is not a sex prison. Chocha neither you or DH called him on it. I have been saying this for the last few months but whenever me and “That Guy” did you DH and DJ4$ got out the posting hammer and beat me and him over the head with it. It seems Meatloaf is a worthy adversary.
As for keeping you guys home I welcome all you guys to go abroad fuck yourself silly instead of giving in to societal demands and getting bogged down with the wife and rug rats. If you in Manila PM me I anit hiding.
Illogic,
I think Meatloaf was humoring Cdevins when he made that post. He listed drugs addicts, cougars, trailer trash and single moms. Now, does that sound like the kind of women you'd want to fuck? lol Loaf also mentioned "taking the pussy" and basically adopting a thug persona when dealing with these women. The former will probably get you a visit from Johnny Law and the latter is just too much effort unless you're a natural asshole not shy about calling a woman a b*tch to her face.
Other other hand, Meat Loaf was right. America is not a sex prison in the sense of no sex being available. Sex is available, plenty of it, if you're not picky about looks, don't mind some drama in your life, and want to risk your life income on accidentally impregnating one of these women.
Now I saw the shooter's blog video. I don't know if I'd say that he fits the typical sex tourist profile. Sex tourists are adventurous types. This guy seemed to be an introverted type who lusted after women 10 to 20 yrs younger than himself. Maybe he shared the preoccupation with younger women with a lot of older sex tourists but that's about it. A sex tourist would have booked a flight instead of stockpiling ammo. It seems that he was looking at these younger women, possibly trying to make contact and getting rejected, then going home and frantically beating off. If he was looking for women one to two decades younger in the US then that would explain why he wasn't getting laid for the last 19 yrs.
I'm a young guy like you are, but I wouldn't call the US "sex heaven" like Meatloaf did. Would you?
This guy was FUCKING NUTS.
This guy was not a young dumb teenager. If this guy didn't blame his problems on American women, he would have blamed them on something else (i.e. Santa, the Easter Bunny, Scooby Doo...)
Regardless, he was never going to blame himself or do anything pro-active to get better.
-Helpmann :rolleyes:
here comes daddy rich guy with his "mongers are fat and bald" speech. there are a lot of fat people in the world, unfortunately, and more all the time. obviously i meet a lot of mongers down here and i think a lower percentage are fat, as compared to the general population. i think a higher percentage go to the gym and stay in shape. it does seem there are a lot of bald mongers but i'd be a little careful there, rich guy; you're only 30 or so and you might go bald and regret what you've said.
dh i was bullshitting around mayne. sex tourists come in all shapes sizes and colors bruh. i and a few others are living proof.
illogic,
i think meatloaf was humoring cdevins when he made that post. he listed drugs addicts, cougars, trailer trash and single moms. now, does that sound like the kind of women you'd want to fuck? lol
if i was in states and had never left i would be happy with anything but pi and thailand have spoiled me :d
loaf also mentioned "taking the pussy" and basically adopting a thug persona when dealing with these women. the former will probably get you a visit from johnny law and the latter is just too much effort unless you're a natural asshole not shy about calling a woman a b*tch to her face.
not my style.
other other hand, meat loaf was right. america is not a sex prison in the sense of no sex being available. sex is available, plenty of it, if you're not picky about looks, don't mind some drama in your life, and want to risk your life income on accidentally impregnating one of these women.
can't argue with any of these points.
now i saw the shooter's blog video. i don't know if i'd say that he fits the typical sex tourist profile. sex tourists are adventurous types. this guy seemed to be an introverted type who lusted after women 10 to 20 yrs younger than himself. maybe he shared the preoccupation with younger women with a lot of older sex tourists but that's about it. a sex tourist would have booked a flight instead of stockpiling ammo. it seems that he was looking at these younger women, possibly trying to make contact and getting rejected, then going home and frantically beating off. if he was looking for women one to two decades younger in the us then that would explain why he wasn't getting laid for the last 19 yrs.
i'm a young guy like you are, but i wouldn't call the us "sex heaven" like meatloaf did. would you?
hell no.
Jelly Donut
08-07-09, 00:02
It's clear that a sexually satisfied nation and leadership are much less inclined to do violence.
Brazil, Colombia and Russia are widely seen as better countries to get laid in than the United States, but also have much higher homicide rates. There are many examples. Even Thailand has a marginally highly murder rate than the United States. The United States homicide rate is about the same as Argentina. There are plenty of examples in the other direction, too. No correlation.
Knock yourself out
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
The United States did bomb a number of countries during the Clinton Administration (at least twice as many as the Bush Administration). Including Iraq. You may remember the "Wag the Dog" references when the Clinton Administration started bombing in the former Yugoslavia almost directly after news of the Lewinsky blowjob. Additionally, Kennedy invaded Cuba using the CIA; just because he failed does not make him a dove. And, of course, he did not pull out of Vietnam; that was Nixon. Again - no connection between getting some and national war policy.
So, provocative post, but you are talking poetry and not reality when you suggest getting laid makes men pacific.
Chocha Monger
08-07-09, 05:33
Brazil, Colombia and Russia are widely seen as better countries to get laid in than the United States, but also have much higher homicide rates. There are many examples. Even Thailand has a marginally highly murder rate than the United States. The United States homicide rate is about the same as Argentina. There are plenty of examples in the other direction, too. No correlation.
Better? Better for who? Do you really think that the average man scratching out an existence in those countries find it as easy to get laid as a foreign monger with a fistful of US dollars or euros?
The United States did bomb a number of countries during the Clinton Administration (at least twice as many as the Bush Administration). Including Iraq. You may remember the "Wag the Dog" references when the Clinton Administration started bombing in the former Yugoslavia almost directly after news of the Lewinsky blowjob. Additionally, Kennedy invaded Cuba using the CIA; just because he failed does not make him a dove. And, of course, he did not pull out of Vietnam; that was Nixon. Again - no connection between getting some and national war policy.
So, provocative post, but you are talking poetry and not reality when you suggest getting laid makes men pacific.
Yes, I took poetic license when I constructed that hook. My point was that sexual frustration can lead to irritability and often violence. On the other hand one can argue that pussy is much more likely to incite violence among men competing for it. The ancient kings had harems full of pussy but that didn't stop them from waging war on their neighbors and adding fresh captive women to their harems. If you want to see a good dog fight just introduce a b*tch in heat to a pack of males.
Is this guy nut's or what? Wife finds Husbands love letter to mistress. A few month's later Husband asks wife for permission to visit mistress.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090807/ap_on_re_us/us_sc_governor
Excerpt........
Jenny Sanford told the AP said she learned about the affair in January when she came across a copy of a letter her husband wrote his mistress. In the ensuing months, her husband asked several times to visit the other woman, requests she denied, the first lady said.
"It's one thing to forgive adultery; it's another thing to condone it," she told AP during an exclusive interview soon after the governor revealed the affair.
an armed and sexually deprived citizenry makes for a high likelihood the occurrence of acts of senseless violence. - chocha monger, 2009
what is this mysterious thing that he needs so badly? well, it's called "game." no one really knows what game is but some say it's the ability to bullshit a woman, get her laughing and eventually make her drop her drawers long enough without crying [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)...now, what george sodini did was reprehensible... sodini chose to limit himself to the american dating scene. he was an it professional so i'm sure he was well aware of the other options out there, maybe even isg...
couldn't have put it better myself.
only in america can a "free" country have so many things around sex be called "crimes". thing is, it's entirely possible i could have enough "game" to get a girl to drop her drawers without crying [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), but there's no guarantee that three months later one of her sisters in the struggle won't take her to a "womyns' resource center" where she will learn she was raped because she now regrets our roll in the hay.
and don't even get me started on all the unconstitutional roadblocks to our obtaining a foreign bride.
yup, in the eyes of mainstream america, all men are sexual predators. the feminists have won.
Member #2041
08-08-09, 03:10
couldn't have put it better myself.
only in america can a "free" country have so many things around sex be called "crimes". thing is, it's entirely possible i could have enough "game" to get a girl to drop her drawers without crying [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), but there's no guarantee that three months later one of her sisters in the struggle won't take her to a "womyns' resource center" where she will learn she was raped because she now regrets our roll in the hay.
and don't even get me started on all the unconstitutional roadblocks to our obtaining a foreign bride.
yup, in the eyes of mainstream america, all men are sexual predators. the feminists have won.
supposedly, this jerk sodini went 19 years without getting laid. anyone in the u.s. can get laid with $100 and internet access, and he obviously had internet access and a good enough job to afford the cash to nut every month or so. i think this guy was a victim of the cultural brainwashing that happens in the u.s. the guy lived in pittsburgh - even if he didn't want a long trip, it's a short jaunt to toronto for some nice action. what a fucking idiot this clown was.
Latin Bound
08-08-09, 03:55
Supposedly, this jerk Sodini went 19 years without getting laid. Anyone in the USA Can get laid with $100 and internet access, and he obviously had internet access and a good enough job to afford the cash to nut every month or so. I think this guy was a victim of the cultural brainwashing that happens in the USA The guy lived in Pittsburgh. Even if he didn't want a long trip, it's a short jaunt to Toronto for some nice action. What a fucking idiot this clown was.why this insistance in comparing this person with a sane one? By his blog it is obvious that he was psychotic. By default, his reasoning was not working in all cylinders. In his perception of the world the idea of traveling in search of a woman was not in his radar screen. I take my hat on m2041 reasoning that for that matter, most "average joes" don't have an idea of the possibility open to them. If you don't believe me, next time you are with your coworkers. Tell them about the possibility of retiring overseas and observe their reaction.
DJ FourMoney
08-08-09, 06:50
Supposedly, this jerk Sodini went 19 years without getting laid. Anyone in the U.S. can get laid with $100 and internet access, and he obviously had internet access and a good enough job to afford the cash to nut every month or so. I think this guy was a victim of the cultural brainwashing that happens in the U.S. The guy lived in Pittsburgh - Even if he didn't want a long trip, it's a short jaunt to Toronto for some nice action. What a fucking idiot this clown was.
If you have to fuck there's always problem women, fat women, whatever.
He is a nut case because he made money, he could have gone to Canada where they look the other way, he could have open up the local sex paper, use Eros, whatever.
He took the easy way out, period.
Seriously, this bloke got what he deserved.
A Greek woman set fire to a British man's genitals at a club after he allegedly made sexual advances on her.
The unidentified woman is being praised by her hometown in Crete for what she did and for also turning herself in to police immediately after the alleged incident. She has been charged with causing bodily injury and endangering private property, according to the Telegraph .
Police said that the incident took place at a club in the Greek resort town of Malia. The British man, who police have also not yet identified, allegedly took off his pants there and waved his genitals at a number of girls. He is then said to have "forcefully fondled" the Greek woman and asked her to hold his genitals.
The woman asked the man to stop harassing her, police said, and when he didn't, she poured Sabucco, a liquor that resembles Greek ouzo, on his private area.
When the man continued his advances, police said that's when the woman set fire to his genitals using a lighter.
The man is currently at in a Heraklion, Crete, clinic being treated for second-degree burns to his testicles and penis.
http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/dpgo_woman_sets_fire_to_mans_genitals_lwf_080709_2889469
Australiasucks
08-10-09, 02:20
This Sodini fellow was a moron, if he truly was educated he would not have bothered with American women. I am in Australia and I don't bother with Aussie women, even so, he could have buggered off to Canada for good sex. I have been to Quebec, services there are top notch. This idiot truly gave ammunition to feminist facists, now I bet health clubs will restrict access to males. What a fool, he did not have to resort to violence.
The incident in Greece does not surprise me at all. British and German tourists are known to misbehave and treat locals poorly. The bloke was behaving like an animal and got what he deserved.
Well, I don't exactly know how much pussy my father paid for, but he got a lot. It was all a numbers game. He'd ask any woman that interested him.
And though he was kind-hearted and a true bad ass at the same time, he wasn't exactly Brad Pitt; half his face was paralyzed from being shot when he was a kid. But he had luck in the tail game.
Dad failed at marriage with a couple American women, including my long gone mother, who when were we kids, liked to refer to him as "the bank." She mainly drank and judged.
His second wife pretty much got fat and crazy and then depleted half his 401K.
At the end, he lived in Southern California, hooked up with a Mexican chick my age. He also routinely banged a married Vietnamese broad for the last 15 years.
And some of his best memories were of his time in the Navy in the Phillipines. I gotta say, besides having a Filipina lick my butthole once, I don't think I've experienced anything that the old man hadn't already.
My gut instinct when Dad died was to meet a nice girl, knock her up and get married. Wanting family ties, I guess. I'm in my late 30s.
But this is wholly irrational. My second instinct will be to make a provision in my will giving a Colombian buddy of mine at least $3,000 to go wh#ring in Cartagena.
Well, I don't exactly know how much pussy my father paid for, but he got a lot. It was all a numbers game. He'd ask any woman that interested him.
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May god rest your pop's soul.
My old man checked out a a few years ago.
I remember visiting my dad at 19 when he was terminal in the Philipines.
I arrived at the airport and instead of getting into a car to go to his pad, I saw my pops on a motorbike sandwiched between two Filipinas about 2/3rds of his age. I was kinda in shock.
My mum and I thought he was crazy for moving to the Phillipines.
We had some good times and great conversations that trip;the last time I saw him alive.
Take care bro and lets pay homage to our fathers-- in this world or the next-- who started this game.
And a fun game it is.
DD
DJ FourMoney
08-10-09, 12:22
May god rest your pop's soul.
My old man checked out a a few years ago.
I remember visiting my dad at 19 when he was terminal in the Philipines.
I arrived at the airport and instead of getting into a car to go to his pad, I saw my pops on a motorbike sandwiched between two Filipinas about 2/3rds of his age. I was kinda in shock.
My mum and I thought he was crazy for moving to the Phillipines.
We had some good times and great conversations that trip;the last time I saw him alive.
Take care bro and lets pay homage to our fathers-- in this world or the next-- who started this game.
And a fun game it is.
DD
I agree and my condolences...
My pops laid pipe in Korea during the War, was a star on his HS football team and laid pipe in Germany, Belgium and France. He was banging some German woman and some Flip locally near his home in Stockton.
He asked me once "Aren't you a superstar like your daddy?". I had to admit no, I am not the "mack" my father was and who knows why.
But I think its safe to say these men grew up in two different eras, one where sex was under a rock (40's/50's) then revolution came and women wanted to fuck (mid 70's) without the games.
Those days will never return, now have to go to distance places to find women interested in YOU for YOU and not what you have or what you can give them. And please spare me with there women in English speaking countries that wanna be with men like us. I know that, but we've been over that, its needle in the hack sack kind of bullshit.
ThatGuy865
08-10-09, 13:18
American women for the mature monger. And this was just a local event. Not even nation wide.
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=623198
Australiasucks
08-10-09, 14:13
www.xxxwishes.com, I noticed the advert for this site. Are they for real?? Make your own porn film with an Eastern European porn star? If that is true, I'm game.
ThatGuy865
08-11-09, 02:06
www.xxxwishes.com, I noticed the advert for this site. Are they for real?? Make your own porn film with an Eastern European porn star? If that is true, I'm game.They are charging minimum like $2500 USD for 3 hrs. I can do that in the USA At the bunny ranch in vegas with American Porn stars. Why spend another $1000 in air fare to EE.
DJ FourMoney
08-11-09, 12:38
I will admit while there quite a few women that look good for their age running around any town/city USA, there are also quite a few STUNNAS that would pass for early 30's easily.
These are the Cougars that actually have success hooking up with much younger men, that is if they aren't married.
As I keep saying, posting pictures and links to pictures is fine but what is wrong with American Women is not how they look, I'll put many of them up against the best looking women in the world. Its what's inside their head and what our culture has done to them and for them.
Unless you can find somebody that's pure without being naive, I'd say don't bother.
American women for the mature monger. And this was just a local event. Not even nation wide.
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=623198
No way, No how, are these American women 50 yrs or older...UNLESS as Chocha Monger correctly states................
These women are not normal Americans. They have had breast implants and other surgical procedures, botox injections, steroid cycles, special diets and rigorous exercise regimens. Trying to have a relationship with one of these old vanity queens would likely be hell for any man since he would find himself having to compete for time in her very busy schedule of activities intended to preserve her looks.
Chocha Monger
08-11-09, 14:39
Is this what we've come to in America? Post-menopausal vagina? I don't see much to be surprised about here. These women are not normal Americans. They have had breast implants and other surgical procedures, botox injections, steroid cycles, special diets and rigorous exercise regimens. Trying to have a relationship with one of these old vanity queens would likely be hell for any man since he would find himself having to compete for time in her very busy schedule of activities intended to preserve her looks.
Trying to have a relationship with one of these old vanity queens would likely be hell for any man since he would find himself having to compete for time in her very busy schedule of activities intended to preserve her looks.
Absolutely correct. Alot of older women who look young act like teenagers. It would be more psychotic than dating a 22 year old.
The receptionist at my chiropractors office fits into this category. She is over 40 in the wrinkled category but she has a great rack and a somewhat thick ass. All she does is brag about her 20 something + personal trainer boyfriend and how he waits for her at the subway stop.
I want to slap the child out of her. I feel so embarassed for her just listening to her rants. I won't lie though.. I'd like to hit it.
Also worth mentioning is older women can be very depressing and a huge downer. Get some of these women in private and you will find out why they obsess at the gym.
Naked Gunz
08-11-09, 19:59
I will admit while there quite a few women that look good for their age running around any town/city USA, there are also quite a few STUNNAS that would pass for early 30's easily.
These are the Cougars that actually have success hooking up with much younger men, that is if they aren't married.
As I keep saying, posting pictures and links to pictures is fine but what is wrong with American Women is not how they look, I'll put many of them up against the best looking women in the world. Its what's inside their head and what our culture has done to them and for them.
Unless you can find somebody that's pure without being naive, I'd say don't bother.
I met a 41 yo on a social web site this weekend...She looks okay, has the hair weave (which I hate) but she's not the fugly fatass Americana, which is the only attention I get anymore. I don't know why, I'm 6foot, 200 ,always get compliments.
After two days of talking with her on the phone I've gone from being somewhat attracted to downright disgusted. The more she said the less I like. Turns out she is not working now. She is suiing her employer for a lame ass job injury. She fell...boo hoo! Of course she is going to start her own buisness with her cousin.
She has two sons which she, like so many American women, have managed to turn into bf's. I have to talk to them when I call. They're loud and I can tell they are complete lazy assholes. They talk to her like they own her.
She says I don't cook, or clean and always like a foot rub, (hint). She cant wait until mom arrives to cook and clean her house. She expects me to drive the 100 miles to see her, and spend money on her, but of course the will be no sex! In just two days I ascertained this much about this fucked up home!
It took all of my control from hanging up the phone on her. AW truly suck!
http://hiphopwired.com/6202/gym-massacre-mastermind-left-some-words-of-advice-for-black-men/
Gym Massacre Mastermind Left Some Words of Advice for Black Men?
POLITICS
» by moguldom August 11, 2009, 11:05am
The man who open-fired at a Pittsburgh L.A. Fitness, killing four woman and later turned the gun on himself, had a long history of radical anti-government sentiment dating back to the early days of the web. In this case, police have discovered a journal the murderer kept the year before he committed this gruesome crime.
According to his cyber diary, George Sodini was in full support of President Barack Obama, and even held off his murder/suicide plans to watch the outcome of the November election.
George Sodini, the shooter, writes in a post dated Nov. 5, 2008, “Planned to do this in the summer but figure to stick around to see the election outcome. This particular one got so much attention and I was just curious. Not like I give a flying fcuk who won, since this exit plan was already planned. Good luck to Obama! He will be successful. The liberal media LOVES him. Amerika has chosen The Black Man. Good!”
He continued: In light of this I got ideas outside of Obama's plans for the economy and such. Here it is: Every black man should get a young white girl hoe to hone up on. Kinda a reverse indentured servitude thing. Long ago, many a older white male landowner had a young Negro wench girl for his desires. Bout' time tables are turned on that shit. Besides, dem young white hoez dig da bruthrs! LOL. More so than they dig the white dudes! Every daddy know when he sends his little girl to college, she be bangin a bruthr real good. I saw it. “Not my little girl”, daddy says! (Yeah right!!) Black dudes have thier choice of best white hoez. You do the math, there are enough young white so all the brothers can each have one for 3 or 6 months or so.
Later, Sodini writes of the President, “But I got a promotion and a raise, even in this shitty Obama ecomomy.”
Sodini prolonged his murderous plans for months and expressed how he was glad he waited, in addition to a time in January when he took loaded guns to the gym, but could not bring himself to carry out his mission.
"Glad I stayed around. All these days off are great. I will shoot for Tuesday, January 6, 2009, at maybe 8:15. I have list of to-do items to make." On January 9 he wrote,
"I chickened out! Shit! I brought the loaded guns, everything. Hell!"
For weeks upon end until he finally decided to execute his plan, Sodini wrote about his plans and how, in death, he would love to share his story with the world...if it helps.
His final entry read: Also, any of the “Practice Papers” left on my coffee table I used or the notes in my gym bag can be published freely. I will not be embarased, because, well, I will be dead. Some people like to study that stuff. Maybe all this will shed insight on why some people just cannot make things happen in their life, which can potentially benefit others.
Miscellaneous:
1. Probably 99% of the people who know me well don't even think I was this crazy. Told by at least 100 girls/women over the years I was a “nice guy”. Not kidding.
2. Lee Ann Valdiserri had my baby in early 1991. Haven't seen her since she was about four months into it. I knew her sister, Chris, from high school.
3. Net worth slightly more than $250K, (after all debt) as of end of 2008
My opinion, when you have not had sex in 20+yrs, your dick begins to fuck with your mind. This little prick has some explaining to do with his maker.
http://hiphopwired.com/6202/gym-massacre-mastermind-left-some-words-of-advice-for-black-men/
Gym Massacre Mastermind Left Some Words of Advice for Black Men?
POLITICS
» by moguldom August 11, 2009, 11:05am
The man who open-fired at a Pittsburgh L.A. Fitness, killing four woman and later turned the gun on himself, had a long history of radical anti-government sentiment dating back to the early days of the web. In this case, police have discovered a journal the murderer kept the year before he committed this gruesome crime.
According to his cyber diary, George Sodini was in full support of President Barack Obama, and even held off his murder/suicide plans to watch the outcome of the November election.
George Sodini, the shooter, writes in a post dated Nov. 5, 2008, “Planned to do this in the summer but figure to stick around to see the election outcome. This particular one got so much attention and I was just curious. Not like I give a flying fcuk who won, since this exit plan was already planned. Good luck to Obama! He will be successful. The liberal media LOVES him. Amerika has chosen The Black Man. Good!”
He continued: In light of this I got ideas outside of Obama's plans for the economy and such. Here it is: Every black man should get a young white girl hoe to hone up on. Kinda a reverse indentured servitude thing. Long ago, many a older white male landowner had a young Negro wench girl for his desires. Bout' time tables are turned on that shit. Besides, dem young white hoez dig da bruthrs! LOL. More so than they dig the white dudes! Every daddy know when he sends his little girl to college, she be bangin a bruthr real good. I saw it. “Not my little girl”, daddy says! (Yeah right!!) Black dudes have thier choice of best white hoez. You do the math, there are enough young white so all the brothers can each have one for 3 or 6 months or so.
Later, Sodini writes of the President, “But I got a promotion and a raise, even in this shitty Obama ecomomy.”
Sodini prolonged his murderous plans for months and expressed how he was glad he waited, in addition to a time in January when he took loaded guns to the gym, but could not bring himself to carry out his mission.
"Glad I stayed around. All these days off are great. I will shoot for Tuesday, January 6, 2009, at maybe 8:15. I have list of to-do items to make." On January 9 he wrote,
"I chickened out! Shit! I brought the loaded guns, everything. Hell!"
For weeks upon end until he finally decided to execute his plan, Sodini wrote about his plans and how, in death, he would love to share his story with the world...if it helps.
His final entry read: Also, any of the “Practice Papers” left on my coffee table I used or the notes in my gym bag can be published freely. I will not be embarased, because, well, I will be dead. Some people like to study that stuff. Maybe all this will shed insight on why some people just cannot make things happen in their life, which can potentially benefit others.
Miscellaneous:
1. Probably 99% of the people who know me well don't even think I was this crazy. Told by at least 100 girls/women over the years I was a “nice guy”. Not kidding.
2. Lee Ann Valdiserri had my baby in early 1991. Haven't seen her since she was about four months into it. I knew her sister, Chris, from high school.
3. Net worth slightly more than $250K, (after all debt) as of end of 2008
That's true but also if you haven't had sex in 20 years your mind starts to fuck with your dick. Use it or lose it kinda thing.
DJ FourMoney
08-14-09, 06:49
I met a 41 yo on a social web site this weekend...She looks okay, has the hair weave (which I hate) but she's not the fugly fatass Americana, which is the only attention I get anymore. I don't know why, I'm 6foot, 200 ,always get compliments.
After two days of talking with her on the phone I've gone from being somewhat attracted to downright disgusted. The more she said the less I like. Turns out she is not working now. She is suiing her employer for a lame ass job injury. She fell...boo hoo! Of course she is going to start her own buisness with her cousin.
She has two sons which she, like so many American women, have managed to turn into bf's. I have to talk to them when I call. They're loud and I can tell they are complete lazy assholes. They talk to her like they own her.
She says I don't cook, or clean and always like a foot rub, (hint). She cant wait until mom arrives to cook and clean her house. She expects me to drive the 100 miles to see her, and spend money on her, but of course the will be no sex! In just two days I ascertained this much about this fucked up home!
It took all of my control from hanging up the phone on her. AW truly suck!
Well I can kinda top that, but its not as bad as you think....
A woman contacted me on Facebook out of nowhere.
Turns out she's about 45, not the skinniest woman but not fat either, more like thick. Has two sons (ages unknown, HS/College age). She's been married twice. She's Canadian by birth, American by marriage carries dual citizenship, the boys are American?
Anyway, she complimented me and even posted something on my Facebook on my birthday which is more than my own mother did on Monday :(
She's not bad looking at all, has beautiful eyes, decent rack.
We'll see where it leads but honestly I still desire somebody about half that age and no children and of course that means abandoning the United States to look for that and largely Western Europe. But I have to get my "house" in order to pursue that seriously.
That is for 2010....
Chocha Monger
08-14-09, 14:08
Well I can kinda top that, but its not as bad as you think....
A woman contacted me on Facebook out of nowhere.
Turns out she's about 45, not the skinniest woman but not fat either, more like thick. Has two sons (ages unknown, HS/College age). She's been married twice. She's Canadian by birth, American by marriage carries dual citizenship, the boys are American?
Anyway, she complimented me and even posted something on my Facebook on my birthday which is more than my own mother did on Monday :(
She's not bad looking at all, has beautiful eyes, decent rack.
We'll see where it leads but honestly I still desire somebody about half that age and no children and of course that means abandoning the United States to look for that and largely Western Europe. But I have to get my "house" in order to pursue that seriously.
That is for 2010....
DJ,
In 5 years she'll be 50, if she isn't already! :eek: I don't know why AW think that they can date much younger guys while calling guys dirty old men for marrying younger women. Don't waste your time. She's menopausal, probably already had her uterus removed. There is a reason why the father of the kids moved on.
DJ,
In 5 years she'll be 50, if she isn't already! :eek: I don't know why AW think that they can date much younger guys while calling guys dirty old men for marrying younger women. Don't waste your time. She's menopausal, probably already had her uterus removed. There is a reason why the father of the kids moved on.
Actually some AW in their late 30's and 40's are great in the sack. I've had a few quite literally fuck me into the middle of next week. DJ, if this lady wants a sex buddy, I would jump on her in a NY minute. If she's looking for a life partner, I would run like the dickens :eek:
Yesterday was a funny nite. I'm back to USA for a couple of weeks alone. Witing n a Moscow biyotch.
So yesterday my former neibor took me out.. BTW I cant drive, I have DUI.
We went to Hooters, I was showing to him pics and videos from last week Colombia trip. There was one 50+y dude. The Hooters girl were all over him. But it turned out he is just old client who come often to spens a lot of money... I showed him the videos, the guy got really jelaous. Maybe he will make to Colombia some day, although i doubt.
But the funniest was in another bar. I was talking toi 2 american girls. One was ok looking by lokal standars, although just another ugly *****. But at least she was able do some conversation.. Her friend, her sister was uglier and much nicer as always it happens. After a few conversations, after she said some kinda stupid joke, I was not laughing. She told me "I think we have a barrier in the sense of humor". incredible, of course i understood this ***** lame joke, but its funny they got so much confidence they are too smart. But this ***** does not have even a job, looking for some waitress job. Also even with my fucked up Spanish 4 days ago I had great time with 2 Colombianas, no problemas with humor or anything esle. Only in North AMERICA a stupid ugly ***** tells me about humore etc.. Just another time AW prove they are simply dumb, forget about the looks.
Before a recent trip to Southern California to attend to my late father's affairs, I called up a one-time fuck buddy of his, a 52-year-old married Vietnamese broad, to express my condolences and thank her for helping my dad to enjoy life. After a little talking, it turns out she was gonna be in the same area for a week to help a friend who's dying. She's based in the Midwest and was flying out.
I always heard from my Dad she was a very horny woman married to an American husband with no sex drive at all. My uncle, a real provincial small town type of guy, had said she was ugly as hell.
So, anyway, she wanted to ride with me when I drove to pick up my dad's ashes from the crematorium. And when I saw her through the door, she was slender and had hair all the way down to her knees. And nice jugs. No real flaws, aside from front teeth that were a little chipped maybe.
And she had a crazy laugh.
So as we drove on the freeway to get the ashes, we wandered through the conversation about how she knew my dad, and how they were sexual, etc.
And I say I heard she was very horny. "Oh, I horny 24-7," she said.
"Well, if you need me to help you out," I said, "you just let me know."
So after lunch at a Saigon restaurant, I ended up banging her three times at a Days Inn in El Cajon. I'm 39, and this 52 didn't look bad. Actually, at 5'3" and 110 pounds, she had a better body than any younger woman I've been with recently.
She was all insecure about her husband not wanting to have sex with her. Said anytime I'm in Wichita, I should call her up.
Vaquero you're not sick, when duty calls, a man gotta do what a man gotta do.
Before a recent trip to Southern California to attend to my late father's affairs, I called up a one-time fuck buddy of his, a 52-year-old married Vietnamese broad, to express my condolences and thank her for helping my dad to enjoy life. After a little talking, it turns out she was gonna be in the same area for a week to help a friend who's dying. She's based in the Midwest and was flying out.
I always heard from my Dad she was a very horny woman married to an American husband with no sex drive at all. My uncle, a real provincial small town type of guy, had said she was ugly as hell.
So, anyway, she wanted to ride with me when I drove to pick up my dad's ashes from the crematorium. And when I saw her through the door, she was slender and had hair all the way down to her knees. And nice jugs. No real flaws, aside from front teeth that were a little chipped maybe.
And she had a crazy laugh.
So as we drove on the freeway to get the ashes, we wandered through the conversation about how she knew my dad, and how they were sexual, etc.
And I say I heard she was very horny. "Oh, I horny 24-7," she said.
"Well, if you need me to help you out," I said, "you just let me know."
So after lunch at a Saigon restaurant, I ended up banging her three times at a Days Inn in El Cajon. I'm 39, and this 52 didn't look bad. Actually, at 5'3" and 110 pounds, she had a better body than any younger woman I've been with recently.
She was all insecure about her husband not wanting to have sex with her. Said anytime I'm in Wichita, I should call her up.
Gentleman Travel
08-17-09, 16:59
www.xxxwishes.com, I noticed the advert for this site. Are they for real?? Make your own porn film with an Eastern European porn star? If that is true, I'm game.
If you are interested in this kind of thing, check out ShelbyBaker's post under the St. Petersburg (Russia) thread. He has done a lot of this and it sounded obscenely inexpensive. The xxxwishes thing is for people that need a lot of hand-holding.
DJ FourMoney
08-17-09, 20:21
Actually some AW in their late 30's and 40's are great in the sack. I've had a few quite literally fuck me into the middle of next week. DJ, if this lady wants a sex buddy, I would jump on her in a NY minute. If she's looking for a life partner, I would run like the dickens :eek:
Well lucky for me I'm not a huge Facebook user.
She's not local (Vancouver, BC) strictly fucking more than likely isn't possible.
I did run (just not that fast...)
Chocha Monger
08-21-09, 00:49
Here is some more information on the latest trend among young men in Japan as the women there become more Westernized.
http://bionicbong.com/japan/only-in-japan/trad-japanese-c-c/whats-happening-to-japanese-boys/
The comments are even more striking than the actual article. Here is what a commentator called Akshay wrote:
Looks like the last smart group of men lives in Japan. At last some sense for the thick headed male gender. Yes!! live for urself. The only one u can really love is urself. No one else matters.
Women are pure filth and evil. Don’t waste life pursuing ur animal instincts to procreate. Its time to rise above nature. They only want ur money and doesn’t give a damn about u.
As far as I know, a man gets one shot at life. Why waste this incredible gift of life working yourself to death supporting a sow and her little piglets? Even under the best of circumstances, wouldn’t a man’s time be better spent enjoying life? Why must a man be guilted into serving the better good, or some such nonsense? Why shouldn’t he work at something he likes, and then spend his money on his own pleasures? I have never understood why any man is willing to sacrifice his dreams and future so a woman can spawn her little maggots on his back, to feed off of his life. I understand the biological reasons, but I can’t for the life of me understand why REASON can’t overpower a man’s lust.
So, my Japanese brothers, u r heading in the right direction. Live for urself!! I Say again LIVE FOR URSELF!!! The only one who can value ur life is U!!
What a nice way to wake up after a sexless saturday night. Reader beware!
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08232009/news/regionalnews/sex_is_ok__but_water_is_hotter_186088.htm
I am in shock. Having enough sex is the 7th most important thing to an AW? I would have figured it would not even make the top 50!
What a nice way to wake up after a sexless saturday night. Reader beware!
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08232009/news/regionalnews/sex_is_ok__but_water_is_hotter_186088.htm
I suspected so. It's time to get out sex purgatory U.S.A.
Chocha Monger
08-23-09, 17:52
I am in shock. Having enough sex is the 7th most important thing to an AW? I would have figured it would not even make the top 50!
When you consider that the poll probably only offered 10 possible choices that is pretty bad. So keep your collection of Lexington Steel's Best nearby with some Cheetos and handiwipes.
DJ FourMoney
08-24-09, 06:20
When you consider that the poll probably only offered 10 possible choices that is pretty bad. So keep your collection of Lexington Steel's Best nearby with some Cheetos and handiwipes.
ROFL....
It doesn't shock me at all, 7th on the list? Just think of all the AW Apologist on here that say "There's sex to be had from American Women, if your weren't such Losers..."
The majority of women actually do what to have sex, but under their conditions and if they aren't met at any course during the relationship, she'll cut you off, like a immature spoiled child.
But its level of importance is about where that poll says it is. When people say Sex is overrated, they aren't having any sex and in fact may be asexual, Micheal Jackson anyone?
From the freak that shot up a Fitness Center full of women, to the moron who cut off his model gf's fingers and stuffed her ass in a suitcase, there some seriously sexually frustrated people in America.
I have a female friend who just got a divorce
1 I asked her why did she get a divorce? Her responce was my husband was cheating on me.
2 I then asked why he was cheating?
Her responce was because I was not giving him any sex.
3 I then asked why were you not giving him any sex?
Her responce because he woulod not do what I told him to do.
I then responded and asked who fault is it his or yours she is still upset with me because I would not let her play the victim.
I have a female friend who just got a divorce.....
3 I then asked why were you not giving him any sex?
Her responce [sic] because he would not do what I told him to do.....
There was a recent survey of American Men (Great Male Survey 2009: Ask Men) that had the following findings to the question:
"How satisfied are you with your sex life:"
Somewhat satisfied; there is room for improvement 41%
Not at all satisfied because of the quantity of sex 19%
I have no sex life 17%
Not at all satisfied because of the quality of sex 5%
Completely satisfied; I wouldn't change a thing about it 13%
Save you doing the math, 46% are pissed off and 41% are being too polite. That makes 87% who really are not satisfied! Depressing.
I don't think they asked the sensible ones in this brotherhood.
Lo Siento!
Polvo
ThatGuy865
08-28-09, 02:42
There was a recent survey of American Men (Great Male Survey 2009: Ask Men) that had the following findings to the question:
"How satisfied are you with your sex life:"
Somewhat satisfied; there is room for improvement 41%
Not at all satisfied because of the quantity of sex 19%
I have no sex life 17%
Not at all satisfied because of the quality of sex 5%
Completely satisfied; I wouldn't change a thing about it 13%
Save you doing the math, 46% are pissed off and 41% are being too polite. That makes 87% who really are not satisfied! Depressing.
PolvoThis is typical of how people interpret things to fit THEIR agenda.
The 17% who says they have no sex life. How do you know it wasn't their choice or of their doing. Being too tired to after work to fuck.
Someone could look at it in the reverse and say the had 2 choices to choice not at all satisfied, whether it was for quality or quantity. And only 24% choice either. So putting that with the 17 who didn't have no sex life which is 41%. Then 49% were at least somewhat to completely satisfied.
Surveys of this nature, serve no purpose. Because you never know the underlining reasons. Maybe the woman has had a baby, has been strecthed and the guy can't please her any longer, so he feel intimitdated.
Maybe he's gotten fat and has no wind now so she is not turned on by him. This is a survey for entertainment and definitely not scientific.
This is typical of how people interpret things to fit THEIR agenda.
The numbers approximate my experiences here in the good 'ol U.S.A. I've been out with a bunch of p4p American MILF's, most give a mean BBBJ/FS, they tell me their SO's don't get no where close to the same thing. I guess it's better to pay for sex when it comes to AW.
The 17% who says they have no sex life. How do you know it wasn't their choice or of their doing. Being too tired to after work to fuck.
How many "normal" guys on this planet, would say NO to sex when offered? None, except maybe a closet fag.
Someone could look at it in the reverse and say the had 2 choices to choice not at all satisfied, whether it was for quality or quantity. And only 24% choice either. So putting that with the 17 who didn't have no sex life which is 41%. Then 49% were at least somewhat to completely satisfied.
Surveys of this nature, serve no purpose. Because you never know the underlining reasons. Maybe the woman has had a baby, has been strecthed and the guy can't please her any longer, so he feel intimitdated.
Maybe he's gotten fat and has no wind now so she is not turned on by him. This is a survey for entertainment and definitely not scientific.
Believe it or not, American women are a class all to themselves.
I have a female friend who just got a divorce
1 I asked her why did she get a divorce? Her responce was my husband was cheating on me.
2 I then asked why he was cheating?
Her responce was because I was not giving him any sex.
3 I then asked why were you not giving him any sex?
Her responce because he woulod not do what I told him to do.
I then responded and asked who fault is it his or yours she is still upset with me because I would not let her play the victim.Hey Balto, that pretty much sums it up. American broads are not happy unless they are telling their men what to do. It has ruined the institution and contributed to the decline of the U.S. Mongers, stand your ground and tell the bitches to shut up and help you. That's what they are designed for.
This is typical of how people interpret things to fit THEIR agenda.........This is a survey for entertainment and definitely not scientific.
Sense of humour gone AWOL??? Are you a woman?
Bollox
Polvo
Probably the best thing to know about a survey like that is to know that I am not alone, over 1/3 of NA males are getting either no sex, or so little that it may as well be nothing. That certainly is nothing new.
It does lead my mind down some tangents, though. The most obvious question is why? It certainly isn't like this in Asia & LAmerica, here, even
guys that have someone are mostly unsatisfied with the sex life. Is it genetic? Something about women on the North American continent that are simply different? Possibly historical? We shouldn't forget, the majority of original settlers here were escaping religious persecution in Europe, and brought a whole lot of laws and regulations over here to minimize sexual freedom and enjoyment, laws that still exist today. Possibly the media, with its girl power! oprah, you can have it all!! men are nothing but useless idiots, to be used and abused, which is hammered into their little heads over and over? Or maybe, simply the affluence of North America, women don't need men for support, assistance and sex, and being with a male is somehow viewed as being 'weak'?
Most of the above is mental ramblings, but for someone who falls in category 3 in North America (but certainly not worried about it, as there is a whole rest of the world to enjoy), it does make for a discussion
ThatGuy865
08-29-09, 05:10
What makes you guys think this isn't the case with all men in all countries. Men in general (NOT ALL), but most. Tend to have less sex once they have been married after so long.
It very common in every country. For every guy who tells you he's fucking his wife every night. Theres 5 who come home too tired, are alcoholics and have no desire, or just plain aren't interested anymore.
WHY DID THEY INVENT VIAGRA, If the majority of men for ready to fuck every night.
.....We shouldn't forget, the majority of original settlers here were escaping religious persecution in Europe, and brought a whole lot of laws and regulations over here to minimize sexual freedom and enjoyment, laws that still exist today......
I think that is a very good point. A country that was founded by people that even the English thought were too up tight! Food for thought.
Suerte!
Polvo
What makes you guys think this isn't the case with all men in all countries. Men in general (NOT ALL), but most. Tend to have less sex once they have been married after so long.
Men have less sex in marriage because wifey has no interest. Most women and guys let their bodies go to shit after marriage. So the guy is out hustling for all the poontang he can get. While the increasingly bitter wife is stuck at home cooking and taking care of children. Ain't marriage a *****.
It very common in every country. For every guy who tells you he's fucking his wife every night. Theres 5 who come home too tired, are alcoholics and have no desire, or just plain aren't interested anymore.
Why? Because wifey looks like shit.
WHY DID THEY INVENT VIAGRA, If the majority of men for ready to fuck every night.
FYI.....An old, worn out, tired looking, "Dick" needs some extra pickup after a while. :)Also with the high levels of Obesity in the U.S.A expect to see this problem get worse. A healthy, fit male in his 50's or early 60's should not need to take Viagra.
ThatGuy865
08-30-09, 05:33
Men have less sex in marriage because wifey has no interest. Most women and guys let their bodies go to shit after marriage. So the guy is out hustling for all the poontang he can get. While the increasingly bitter wife is stuck at home cooking and taking care of children. Ain't marriage a *****.There are a lot of men who just don't need sex everyday. They don't have the sex drive after a while and it has nothing to do with their wives. They just get to a point, they get tired easier as they age and the desire doesn't just isn't there. All men don't have the same sexual needs. Thats why there are men who are celebrate. Some are happy with sex once a month, some maybe once a week.
It just comes natural with age. Most men lose their sex drives as they age. It may be in there hearts to be with a young girl. But most don't have the stamina to keep up with a young girl. Its just natural. Just like a lot of older men wish they could play sports again in their hearts, but the body lets them know. It aint happening.
Are you a female? I would really like to know. You definitely speak just like THEY do. No offense :D
[QUOTE=Thatguy865 What makes you guys think this isn't the case with all men in all countries. Men in general (NOT ALL), but most. Tend to have less sex once they have been married after so long.
It very common in every country. For every guy who tells you he's fucking his wife every night. Theres 5 who come home too tired, are alcoholics and have no desire, or just plain aren't interested anymore.
WHY DID THEY INVENT VIAGRA, If the majority of men for ready to fuck every night.[/QUOTE]
ThatGuy865
08-31-09, 02:33
Are you a female? I would really like to know. You definitely speak just like THEY do. No offense.No I'm not a woman. But then I'm not an American woman hating basher as it seems. You need to be to comment on this thread.
Its amazing to me how many of the men on this thread will say they don't want to fuck a women who isn't a 7 or above, let alone her being a little overweight or over 35. They feel justified in that statement.
But they know as men go they are not 8's 9's or 10's themselves. Many of the guys are fat, overweight then when they approach a Fine beautiful AW and she turns them down. She's the one with the fucked up attitude. What the hell is wrong with her. How dare she have that attitude.
I realize it works both ways. You have to take your fat ass to the gym, dress nice, smell good, have a personality and you'll get better quaility of women. Don't just expect because you are MAN with a swinging dick. That a woman is suppose to drop her patties for you.
Bango Cheito
08-31-09, 06:08
Male or female, definitely spoken like somebody who has the mistaken impression that the rest of the world is just like the US. Nope, sorry to say, things are WAY different here in Colombia. People don't age as badly, they don't need Viagra the way they do up there, they play more sports, oh, and they have a helluva lot more sex!!!
Latin Bound
08-31-09, 12:19
I barely, if ever comment in this section. However, that guy's comments about needing to be an American woman basher in order to post here finally got to me. It is obvious to me that your position goes beyond not bashing, but as defending. You either post with the intention of rousing, are not well traveled as most American men with that level of ignorance are, or you are just plain stupid. I grant you that no blanket statement fits any group, but here is something I assure you I wouldnt ever do and that is to approach 99% of the woman here in a relationship mode. I encourage you to go to yahoo answers in the marriage and divorce section and that would give you a taste of the every day typical American woman mentality. I just laugh out loud of the positions stated there. If a man is the one doing the "innaproiate" sh-t, whatever it is, since there are so many rules that not even a lawyer could follow well, he is nailed to a cross by all the feminazis, which apparently are in the majority everywhere. Now, if its a woman doing the same deal, immediately she gets all the support imagineable, recommendations of therapy, "he doesn't deserve you," and so on.
The last line is the one that exemplifies the situation best. In general, American women believe they are to be deserved. The problem with that picture is that most don't do a thing to merit that devotion. An example that come to mind is the program Cheaters. The other day this guy was trying to catch his cheating live in. She didn't work and the man got up every day to bring the bacon. The lazy fat a*s wouldn't even get out of bed. As soon as he left the house the other mate, a young guy that he had given a place to stay since he was out of his luck, jumped in bed with her every single day. As is common in this program every time women are caught they always blame the man. Ridiculous excuses as, the moon is made of cheese, the devil made me do it, he is not deserving, and any other crap under the sun comes into play. The day I was watching this particular show my son turned to me and asked me about it. I gave him the best piece of advice I can imagine I will ever be able to share with him. That was, "don't EVER get into a relationship in this country." Running piggy back on that, it should be a required course to all male high school students titled "When the Compulsion of Giving Half of Your Stuff Hits You." The first page should read, Run, Forrest, Run.
I have visited most Latin American countries. Since I commited myself to that part of my life I speak
Spanish fluently. There has not been one single trip in which I have not had a great time or met beautiful women. Till this day I am in contact with many of them years after the fact. Presently, I'm looking for ways to make a living online so I could get the hell out of here. Once you know the joy of life that is present in many of those countries it is very hard to accept or adapt to all the B. S. that we are subjected here in an everyday basis.
Hope you get involved in a relationship, get burned like most do (1 in every 2 marriages end in divorce) and then I would like to see what kind of tune you would carry. The last 2 relationships I had in this country both turned out to be certifiable. One of them actually had a diagnosis of bipolar disorder and didn't told me until after she had subjected me a couple of times to the "joys" of living around the mood swings. She didn't confess to the fact until I had decided to leave. Then it was the waterworks, the theater, etc. BTW, she was / is physically gourgeous, and I am not a fat, bald guy. Would I do it again? Not in this lifetime. I get women as gorgeous as that many times over in Colombia without the drama.
Just because of the stakes stacked against men in this country I wrote American women off completely. The effort of finding that 1% is not worth it when in another place you can find 99% of gals that are awesome without all the rules of engagement that is part of the dating battlefield in the U.S.
Thanks for that, Latin Bound. Beautifully put.
I've noticed that whenever a man commits some horrific crime such as killing his kids, the popular media and society's buzz asks the question: "What kind of a monster this man is?"
When a woman commits the same crime, the question is: "What monster of a man drove her to do this?"
I just received an advanced degree in a feminist-dominated field at a feminist-dominated college (but my career will be far from the feminazis). All domestic violence on spouses and sex abuse on children is focused on men as the perpetrator. They conveniently ignore the violence that occurs between lesbian couples, the way-underreported and unprosecuted sex abuse of boys at the hands of women, and violence between couples with the woman as instigator. Whenever I brought it up, I could just feel the uproar and seething outrage. The hostility is palpable whenever there was a challenge to their narrative of women as oppressed powerless marginalized victims.
DJ FourMoney
09-01-09, 03:53
I have That Guy on ignore for a reason, his post make no sense....
The stats against a marriage succeeding are staggering, you can't make shit like this up.
LB said 1 in 2 marriages end in divorce, that jives with 80% of marriages less than 5 years old end in divorce and I think its over half of all marriages 10 years or older end in divorce.
Why is that?
Honestly the answer is too long to post and its mostly our culture to blame for the problem.
I believe you'll find happiness abroad, the odds are in your favor.
Latin Bound
09-01-09, 04:17
A country that was founded by people that even the English thought were too up tight! Food for thought. Missed this previously. Laughed my heart out. That image is with me now forever. Thanks for the thought.
Peace
ThatGuy865
09-01-09, 04:24
Latin bound,
just for the record, I've been burnt by women just like the rest of you have. The only difference is I pick myself up, dust it off, and move on ...
Oh and for every guy who says he has found a great girl in any country, be it Colombia, Brazil, Argentina, I can find you a guy who will says he was screwed over by a woman from that very same country. So its not the country, because women every where will and do screw over men. Its just the luck of the draw that you find one that you click with and it works out.
I believe you'll find happiness abroad, the odds are in your favor.
This depends. I know a brother who is married to an Asian American they both have IT degrees and combined are pulling in over $20,000 a month. They seem happy. Finding the right women depends on how you search not where you search and what you are looking for. If you run to third world countries I don’t think that will necessarily solve the problem. If you are just looking for sex then third world countries are a viable option but something more long term than I would look elsewhere.
I got a “Warbucks” home boy who just married a Colombian who had a child from a prior relationship, he is young and I have watched him as he goes to Western Union to make those transactions. A lot of women in third world countries are looking for financial assistance. Is this what is requested a parasitic relationship?
To imagine that any third world country, or any country aside from the U.S., offers a Utopian kind of agape love is just waiting to have your heart broken.
True, some women from especially Asian countries may have more traditional cultures. But in the U.S., do does small town Midwest. As I learned in the Dominican Republic years ago as a volunteer, the idea that people who've lived a life without money place greater value in family ties is a bit naive.
The truth is, often when you take some out of that third-world environment and introduce them to the consumer culture of the U.S., they're like Mormons in a *****house. Buck wild, baby.
Women and economics is all relative.
In New York, I dated a Colombian girl, a single mother, only briefly. Never even pursued it hard enough to get in her pants for the few dates we were together, because I was trying to get to know her better and didn't want to fuck things up.
Well, she blew me off a little, and I was like, that's life. No biggie. Then she starting hitting me up for a plane ticket to Colombia.
Mutual friends e-mailed me a photo of her a few months ago. Her boyfriend, who's pushing 70, looked like Ernest Borgnine. If you want romance, you gotta have finance.
I actually don't make bad money. But I'm very country in that I don't flaunt it.
To imagine that any third world country, or any country aside from the U.S., offers a Utopian kind of agape love is just waiting to have your heart broken.
True, some women from especially Asian countries may have more traditional cultures. But in the U.S., do does small town Midwest. As I learned in the Dominican Republic years ago as a volunteer, the idea that people who've lived a life without money place greater value in family ties is a bit naive.
The truth is, often when you take some out of that third-world environment and introduce them to the consumer culture of the U.S., they're like Mormons in a *****house. Buck wild, baby.
Women and economics is all relative.
In New York, I dated a Colombian girl, a single mother, only briefly. Never even pursued it hard enough to get in her pants for the few dates we were together, because I was trying to get to know her better and didn't want to fuck things up.
Well, she blew me off a little, and I was like, that's life. No biggie. Then she starting hitting me up for a plane ticket to Colombia.
Mutual friends e-mailed me a photo of her a few months ago. Her boyfriend, who's pushing 70, looked like Ernest Borgnine. If you want romance, you gotta have finance.
I actually don't make bad money. But I'm very country in that I don't flaunt it.Right on, Vaz, women around the world are taught from early on that it is just as easy to marry a rich guy as it is a poor guy. No money = no honey.
Of course, most of the guys in this website are "rich" compared to the average third world wage earner, hence our travels :).
Neil Young's "Searchin' For a Heart of Gold" comes to mind...
Happy mongering!
I've been back in the USA for about a month now and something I've noticed more of than in years past, mostly at my local mall, but also around town at the supermarket, bank, etc is that there seem to be more and more AMs in their twenties and thirties dating AWs in their forties and fifties. Anyone have any ideas why this is?
PS-if you want to lose your appetite, click on the link below and check out some of the "happy couples".
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/09/01/DD2819FU9B.DTL
The first Miss Cougar America did not cry, muss her mascara, carry a bouquet of roses or wear a crown.
Miss Cougar America, Gloria Navarro, 42, of Redwood City, proudly accepted her title before more than 200 guests, most of them men in their 20s, 30s and 40s, at Dinah's Hotel in Palo Alto on Friday. She said she was proud to represent a new breed of woman: empowered, secure and willing to break boundaries.
"It's a new beginning for me," said the suburban management consultant, married for 20 years, recently divorced and ready for something - or someone - new. "I went from soccer mom with short hair, flat-heeled shoes and fanny packs to cougar. I believe every woman has a cougar in them - someone who doesn't need a man for anything other than companionship."
The contest was part of the first-ever National Cougar Convention produced by Rich Gosse and the Society of Professional Singles, billed as the largest singles organization in the world. The 250 available tickets sold out two days before the event.
The evening, which included a keynote address by Internet radio host and author Francesca Gentille and her boyfriend, Tahil Gesyuk, 14 years younger, drew a racially diverse crowd of men and women who came from as near as Stanford University and as far as London, looking for love, or at least an adventure.
The party included three hours of dancing, drinks and booths filled with items ranging from "Cougar Kits" to "Cougar kitty" T-shirts for $20 sold by Becky Aguilar of Mountain View, recently divorced and looking for fun, but not necessarily younger men, she said.
Miss Cougar America was selected by a vote of the men in attendance.
Watching from a distance was hotel guest Mark Friedman, 45, of Boston, in town for a wedding.
"I've never seen so many useless 20-year-olds in my life," he said. "This is a uniquely American phenomenon."
Apparently not. Two female guests, Birgita Cameron and Rita Sangha, flew in from London for the event. Sangha runs a Web site for women who are attracted to young men and Cameron was a runner-up in the Miss Cougar America contest.
Sandy Miller, 35, a former administrative assistant from San Jose, and Jenny Lane, 41, a dog sitter from Cupertino, had mixed feelings about the party.
They had gone to a professional singles mixer in San Francisco earlier this year sponsored by the Society of Professional Singles and were on Gosse's mailing list and decided to give the Cougar Convention a try.
"We're getting walked past by guys going for women in their 60s," Lane said.
"I guess we should have known," Miller said. "It's a little like prom without a date, or a bad wedding."
Ricky Rivas, 24, a radio ad salesman from the South Bay, was more prosaic.
"Older women and younger men? It doesn't matter nowadays - we're past that barrier. It matters what you bring to the table," he said. "Look at Sotomayor, Condoleezza Rice, Hillary Clinton, pushing the boundaries in the working world. The Bay Area is the perfect place for this. The Bay Area has lots of transplants, people looking for the perfect storm of opportunities, if you will. Women are more empowered here."
PS-if you want to lose your appetite, click on the link below and check out some of the "happy couples".
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/09/01/DD2819FU9B.DTL
I have to say, those cougars don't look all that bad. I mean if they're for free or will even support the younger man a bit, its not a bad deal compared to being a work-horse for a younger AM. And the cougars in the photoset don't look any worse than some of the really wide-open three-holers I've done down on the beach road for 300 baht.
Chocha Monger
09-02-09, 00:24
I have to say, those cougars don't look all that bad. I mean if they're for free or will even support the younger man a bit, its not a bad deal compared to being a work-horse for a younger AM. And the cougars in the photoset don't look any worse than some of the really wide-open three-holers I've done down on the beach road for 300 baht.
Wow! Even a guy in his late teens would need Viagra to get it up for some of those cougars. Those cougars must be really rich for twenty-something guys to be boning them. It has to be purely about money even though those guys are probably getting rejected by American women their own age. Some of those cougars look like really rough beach road 100 baht three-holers.
Wow! Even a guy in his late teens would need Viagra to get it up for some of those cougars. Those cougars must be really rich for twenty-something guys to be boning them. It has to be purely about money even though those guys are probably getting rejected by American women their own age. Some of those cougars look like really rough beach road 100 baht three-holers.
I wouldn't want to be around for their morning dump but yeah why not. They are somewhat doable although no more than once with a good buzz going.
The attraction is they *might be less hassle and less expensive to maintain...not to mention more likely to be into NSA sex. Someone like that is used to getting tossed. They are the female versions of man sluts :)
Sometimes I pay for pigs like that ( $15 and under) and love every minute of it. I would categorize them as great CIM material. For some reason I like to see an older mouth on my dick. Although I would feel uncomfortable about being seen in public with them. Those guys have alot of nerve to "out" themselves like that.
Listen, alot of guys have no other outlets and cougars could be seen as the last ray of hope. Not everybody can afford to get out and monger nor do they want to.
Granted, I might occasionally fuck a broad 10 to 15 years older than me. But there's no way in hell I'd want to seriously date them. I'm in my late 30s and look older. I aim for a good six years younger than me or more.
Robert1110
09-02-09, 03:13
Hello, I just had to come here and paste a email exchange with an AW age 53
Me: "we see porn with women much better looking than most of the women we date. Doing things with a guy or a group. Doing things our own wive or girlfriends will not do. And there are thousands upon thousands of women willing to do that on camera with men they do not even know
Why can't our own girlfriend or wife be that way with their husband or boyfriend?
Her: "Those women are being compensated. And keep in mind, most of the men they're with are better looking than the men most of us date. Women do love sex as much as any man, but need to feel a connection in order to let go of their "repressions".
Me: "So it takes compensation? LOL. Wives living on a husbands dime for life isn't compensation? "
Her: "I worked full time through most of my marriage, and continue to do so. Any desire I had for my ex started to vaporize when he began putting work, friends, and himself ahead of me. A broken connection."
Me: "And this has something to do with what? "
Her: "It has nothing to do with anything that matters."
Me: "not over the ex? I mean. What does this have to do with anything? And you defend women for not being sexual because they are not compensated?
It takes compensation? Wow"
Her: "I didn't say women should be compensated. Just that it could be that women aren't necessarily repressed because of society, but maybe because of the men they're with."
Me: "Of course! Its the men's fault."
I post this because I see a pattern with almost all american women. That pattern being, it is men's fault that women are the way women are, regardless of the poor choice's the women make. Nearly all blame an ex husband for their continuing problems, years after they divorce. Most of these women I have communicated with told me they did not love heir husband's the day they married them.
I wonder why these marriages are a miserable failure.
From "as good as it gets"
Woman: "How do you write women so well? " Melvin: "I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability."
ThatGuy865
09-02-09, 04:19
There are plenty of 20, 30 year old guys who would feel like they hit the lottery to sport one of these women. Of course you guys will nick pick and find some fault with them but the reality is. For their age they are hot. Look at those stomachs. I doubt very many of you have stomachs to compare with these.
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=623198
DJ FourMoney
09-02-09, 12:17
Wow! Even a guy in his late teens would need Viagra to get it up for some of those cougars. Those cougars must be really rich for twenty-something guys to be boning them. It has to be purely about money even though those guys are probably getting rejected by American women their own age. Some of those cougars look like really rough beach road 100 baht three-holers.
+1, my gawd horrible... The Miss 50 ladies have these women BEAT hands down, its no contest.
There are some good looking 40+ year old women, doesn't mean I should do it...
Robert1110, interesting comment into the 'mind' (I use the term loosely here) of the typical AW. I posted a few days ago about why NAWs are the way they are, possibly historical as the North American continent was settled mostly by religious types who had been persecuted in Europe, and this may in some way account for the way they are today. Repression? Who exactly is repressing her? We all know this is pure bs, finding some excuse for her own miserable life and low self-esteem, she can't let go and enjoy herself because it would be "wrong"!!
Chocha Monger
09-02-09, 18:43
I wouldn't want to be around for their morning dump but yeah why not. They are somewhat doable although no more than once with a good buzz going.
The attraction is they *might be less hassle and less expensive to maintain...not to mention more likely to be into NSA sex. Someone like that is used to getting tossed. They are the female versions of man sluts :)
Sometimes I pay for pigs like that ( $15 and under) and love every minute of it. I would categorize them as great CIM material. For some reason I like to see an older mouth on my dick. Although I would feel uncomfortable about being seen in public with them. Those guys have alot of nerve to "out" themselves like that.
Listen, alot of guys have no other outlets and cougars could be seen as the last ray of hope. Not everybody can afford to get out and monger nor do they want to.
I don't know but it seems to me any young guy messing with cougars is asking for a real bad case of worms. :eek:
Robert1110
09-02-09, 20:17
robert1110, interesting comment into the 'mind' (i use the term loosely here) of the typical aw. i posted a few days ago about why naws are the way they are, possibly historical as the north american continent was settled mostly by religious types who had been persecuted in europe, and this may in some way account for the way they are today. repression? who exactly is repressing her? we all know this is pure bs, finding some excuse for her own miserable life and low self-esteem, she can't let go and enjoy herself because it would be "wrong"!!think about this. i was raised catholic. not that this has anything to do with what i am about to say, but i do know something of the church in the 70's (i'm 53).
roman catholic married couples were indoctrinated into believing that sex was for the purpose of procreation only, recreational sex was forbidden.
and this was coming from ****s or others in an organization that protected these criminals. the church should have rico charges filed against it but thats another post for another site.
the point being, ****s, men who do not think normally, are telling those of us that do, how to behave sexually?
that is just one example as to how religion has perverted otherwise normal healthy people into feeling guilt about normal sexual behavior.
repressed? you bet.
what is interesting is this woman i quoted in my previous post wants to lay it directly on men and not our twisted puritanical society.
i think it is this repression, guilt and fear that fosters an environment where sex abuse of children and others is rampant because the victims keep quiet our of fear and embarrassment instead of coming forward as they do in more healthy societies.
Just in case the first set of pictures didn't make you puke. Here are another set from the same cougar convention. The last one in particular is ready to give you a real hummer (LOL).
http://www.7x7.com/blogs/clamour/photos-national-cougar-convention
Robert1110
09-03-09, 07:27
A little background:
I am 53, less than a quarter inch shy of 6 feet tall and usually weigh 165-170. I work out enough to have some muscle tone and a nearly flat stomach. 10 years ago, I could pass for 10 years less than my actual age. Now it's more like 5.
From 2005 to about 2008, I spent the majority of those years living in keiv and then Kharkov.
About 3-5 months into 2008, I ran out of money and am back home in the states.
I have very little to do with AW but now that my stay in the US is getting long, I have to admit I have sought out AW for sex.
I have an unusual method. I find women online and am very honest and direct about my approach.
Most of these women will not have anything to do with a man looking for anything less than a long term relationship, or so they fool themselves into thinking.
After trying just about every approach one can think of, and none of them working, I started to offer some of the "erotica" I tell these women I write. Those who are interested invariably become turned on and many call me wanting phone sex, which I am not really into but will follow up in an attempt to meet in person. Many I have and most I have sex with. Once, maybe twice but rarely more than 3 different meetings for sex. Nearly all end up as nothing more than brief sexual flings.
Before I go and meet any of these women in person, I like to have a very clear understanding of what to expect IF there is mutual attraction, chemistry and desire upon meeting.
Some of these women go right for the sex once we meet. Others, maybe after a few drinks. Nearly all go for the sex but not every one of them. If we hit it off but they have some lame excuse (last one was "my mother told me not to on a first date". Never mind that was 30-40 years ago and long before the internet), not to have sex but they want to have a second date, I rarely, if ever see them again.
The 53yr old I posted about earlier is an attractive woman for her age, having kept the weight off. I sent her some of my "erotica" and she replied that she was wet and turned on. She asked if she could call and if I would read more to her, which I did.
She listened and I could hear her moaning and I am sure she was masturbating.
We made plans to meet, but since she lives about 1 1/2 hour from me, I always insist on meeting halfway. I also want to be very clear with them that if we do NOT hit it off, nothing will happen and we will both leave separately. However, if we DO it hit off, I want it to be sure we are on the same page as to what is likely to happen. Most women are good with this and I have no problem getting a room for several hours of sex.
Before I was going to drive 45 minutes to see this woman, I asked her what will happen if we hit it off. The best she would do is "we will see". That answer is not good enough for me so I sent her the following email:
Me:
"if we hit it off, (so we are clear: that means there is mutual attraction, chemistry and desire), will you want to experience with me some if not all and more, of the things described in my erotica and also that of which I read to you?
I ask because we are both going to some distance (not huge but still, a drive) to meet each other.
You have said "we'll see" even after I have asked this in a way that is not leaving it up to IF we hit it off or not. I am asking what if we DO hit it off.
The "we will see" is more of an answer to "will we hit it off" than it is an answer to "what will we do if we do hit it off"
As I said in my profile, I want to meet a woman who is a potentially consenting adult. Which means, if we hit it off, we're going into this equally. I do not want to meet a woman who knows she wants sex with me but wants to put it off for artificial reasons
I do like your pics and I do think we will hit it off, but that is only if you are able to let go of your disappointment in your ex, your past and men in general.
In fact, if we have sex, I bet it will be wonderful. As you agree, women love sex as much as any man. So if we hit it off, there should not be anything keeping us from doing something about it
What do you think? "
Her reply:
"you're looking for a hookup. I have to tell you that even if there was a physical attraction between us, I would not sleep with you the first time I met you. That's not my disappointment with any other man, society's attitude, etc. It's about knowing a person well enough to let them have that part of you. It's got to be more than just a physical attraction for me. I went out with a man several years younger than me, and yes, there was sexual tension and he was extremely hot. But as I got to know him, he turned out to be a liar, a bigot, and generally annoying. Again, sex follows an emotional connection. At least for me. I really think we're looking for different things."
Of course I declined to meet her.
Remember, this is after a lot of email exchanges, her reading several of the erotic stories I wrote as well as listening to me on the phone while she was masturbating.
She prior to this, she has told me of at least two relationships that the men turned out to be "losers, lairs, etc., etc., " mush like the man she described above.
What is interesting is these are men who she made to wait and have sevral dates before becoming sexual.
My point? These women think they are "getting to know" a man while denying them sex for 1-5 dates, yet become sexually involved. They do not see the irony in that there is NO WAY to sufficiently "get to know" anyone, on any number of dates, that will ensure or guarantee a "successful" relationship.
I tell them this. I also tell them if there was a fool proof number of dates to "get to know" each other that will ensure success, we all would be doing that and we would all be in good relationships. Again:
Woman: "How do you write women so well? " Melvin: "I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability."
A little background:
Me:
"if we hit it off, (so we are clear: that means there is mutual attraction, chemistry and desire), will you want to experience with me some if not all and more, of the things described in my erotica and also that of which I read to you?
I ask because we are both going to some distance (not huge but still, a drive) to meet each other.
."
Just because you have the idea of a sex meeting does not mean she is on the same page. When she meets you, she might be disappointed or not attracted or feels compelled to change her mind. Can't blame her....or you. You might be disappointed after seeing her in person. Pictures, WEB cams, etc...do not do justice as much as seeing in person.
I think most women who are not p4p would not hop in bed the first time out.
Sure, you spelled it out verbatim what you expected..."I drive for "X" amount time to meet you...we are hooking up...my dick is ready!"
Obviously, she want to be cautious. Many boneheads out there...not saying you are...but can't blame one for being cautious....
Robert1110
09-04-09, 01:52
"Just because you have the idea of a sex meeting does not mean she is on the same page. When she meets you, she might be disappointed or not attracted or feels compelled to change her mind. Can't blame her. Or you. You might be disappointed after seeing her in person. Pictures, WEB cams, etc. Do not do justice as much as seeing in person."
Ben, I guess you missed it or maybe I forgot to type it.
Of course she (or more likely, me) may be disappointed for any number of reasons. I thought I was clear about the "hitting it off" part, the mutual desire, chemistry and attraction having to be present. And again, many women have jumped right on it. After a few minutes or a few drinks.
I thought it was just women who didn't read that part.
Bango Cheito
09-04-09, 08:57
I think that waiting for an emotional connection before having sex is stupid. Sex should come FIRST, and the emotional connection later, not the other way around.
Of course this is not just an American problem. At all.
Hello, I just had to come here and paste a email exchange with an AW age 53
Me: "we see porn with women much better looking than most of the women we date. Doing things with a guy or a group. Doing things our own wive or girlfriends will not do. And there are thousands upon thousands of women willing to do that on camera with men they do not even know
Why can't our own girlfriend or wife be that way with their husband or boyfriend?
Her: "Those women are being compensated. And keep in mind, most of the men they're with are better looking than the men most of us date. Women do love sex as much as any man, but need to feel a connection in order to let go of their "repressions".
Me: "So it takes compensation? LOL. Wives living on a husbands dime for life isn't compensation? "
Her: "I worked full time through most of my marriage, and continue to do so. Any desire I had for my ex started to vaporize when he began putting work, friends, and himself ahead of me. A broken connection."
Me: "And this has something to do with what? "
Her: "It has nothing to do with anything that matters."
Me: "not over the ex? I mean. What does this have to do with anything? And you defend women for not being sexual because they are not compensated?
It takes compensation? Wow"
Her: "I didn't say women should be compensated. Just that it could be that women aren't necessarily repressed because of society, but maybe because of the men they're with."
Me: "Of course! Its the men's fault."
I post this because I see a pattern with almost all american women. That pattern being, it is men's fault that women are the way women are, regardless of the poor choice's the women make. Nearly all blame an ex husband for their continuing problems, years after they divorce. Most of these women I have communicated with told me they did not love heir husband's the day they married them.
I wonder why these marriages are a miserable failure.
From "as good as it gets"
Woman: "How do you write women so well? " Melvin: "I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability."Hi Robert & other readers: yes, it is always the man's fault or someone else's fault, not the woman's fault. Goes back to the very beginning in the Garden of Eden if you believe that. God has a funny sense of humor creating this woman we find so desirable yet her brain is wired completely different than ours.
A guy would have to be completely nuts to marry an AW...or bring a foreign woman to America where they become Americanized. AWs are spoiled rotten, carry more baggage than United Airlines and all become menopausal psychotics in their 40s & 50s. They all want to be a man in a man's world but still want the man to pay for everything. It's nuts.
That's why I go TJ, Asia and ocassionally SA or Carribean to pay for pussy and big tits. I'm 53, good looking (well, that's always relative) and well-educated. If I ever settle down it will be in a foreign country 15 years from now, probably Argentina, Equador or maybe Cebu, PI...with a busty, beautiful, degreed foreign RN one-half to one-third my age. Well, that's the plan...
DJ FourMoney
09-04-09, 20:02
Just in case the first set of pictures didn't make you puke. Here are another set from the same cougar convention. The last one in particular is ready to give you a real hummer (LOL).
http://www.7x7.com/blogs/clamour/photos-national-cougar-convention
Its worst than we thought - http://www.cougarconvention.com/
This is no different than older women in their 20's still dating teenagers...
The only difference is they have more money and a higher social position than they did when they were younger.
No wonder I can't keep all these older women from hitting up my personal profile...
I don't see how you fellows can begrudge these cougars their bit of fun - aren't they doing exactly what we're doing? Perhaps our brains aren't wired so very differently after all.. perhaps its more a matter of just who has the whip-hand (money).
Chocha Monger
09-04-09, 20:25
Its worst than we thought - http://www.cougarconvention.com/
This is no different than older women in their 20's still dating teenagers...
The only difference is they have more money and a higher social position than they did when they were younger.
No wonder I can't keep all these older women from hitting up my personal profile...DJ, it sounds like you're cougar bait! ;)
Its worst than we thought - http://www.cougarconvention.com/
This is no different than older women in their 20's still dating teenagers...
The only difference is they have more money and a higher social position than they did when they were younger.
No wonder I can't keep all these older women from hitting up my personal profile...It gets even worse! Now they have a Television show on ABC coming this season Cougar Town. Granted it has a some what attractive Courtney Cox, but the fall back on all the 40 something women who believe that this will be their new entitlement is going to be nauseating. This is the You Tube trailer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HLhOrQuy9U
DJ FourMoney
09-08-09, 07:33
DJ, it sounds like you're cougar bait! ;)
Seems that way, the last few women that have contacted me have been at least 39. While I'm 39 myself (now), I am not interested.
I rather be some other kind of bait..lol
Chocha Monger
09-08-09, 15:03
It gets even worse! Now they have a Television show on ABC coming this season Cougar Town. Granted it has a some what attractive Courtney Cox, but the fall back on all the 40 something women who believe that this will be their new entitlement is going to be nauseating. This is the You Tube trailer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HLhOrQuy9U
I don't think this will be a new entitlement at all. Many AW already believe that dining on tenders shoots is their right. I recall a cougar that pursued a buddy and I. She was probably old enough to be our mother. After turning down her aggressive advances numerous times we discovered that she had an attractive daughter close to our ages. So we told the cougar that we were interested in her daughter. Her response was no way. The reason given was that we were too experienced and her daughter was a "good girl." Never mind that her daughter was on birth control and had an unemployed boyfriend who visited her at home alone while her mother was at work. She insisted that the daughter was still a virgin. She then asked us if we could hire the unemployed boyfriend. Of course, we did not and had a good laugh. We found it hypocritical and highly amusing that this old cougar wanted to keep her daughter "chase" while attempting to put mileage on our young bodies with her old dusty rug. As far as she was concerned her daughter deserved someone who was inexperienced while we deserved someone twice our age with two kids and a menopausal pussy.
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