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05-19-02, 22:03
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The Man
06-20-02, 17:03
I just went to TJ last weekend and it was good, this was the first time I used one of this services and it was great, for only 100 dls I got a 20 min massage a very good streep tease an excelent bj and fs in different positions, total time about 1.5 hours.
The girl
19 yo
good body
looks 9
service 10
The place:
clean
big table
good service

The Man

Read my report in mexico, tijuana section.....

Are there any other experiences you guys would like to share....

Yogi-Bear
06-26-02, 17:13
Is there a website with massage parlors all over the world?

Stunt
07-26-02, 04:28
I found this place I think give "extras" how do you go about asking for " extra" without asking for extras. I have been told a few tips but the more advice I can get the better. And how much should I be "tipping" a woman for her time.

Stunt

Banana61
09-11-02, 22:27
Er - I have always asked for extras; occasionally I get turned down but has not (yet) been any consequence.

B61

Happy Devil
09-30-02, 16:22
From what I ready, you guys are mainly talking about massages in either the US or Mexico.

You guys should come over to China and get yourself a massage.

I was down in Jinan and got the full service.

First you get to pick a girl from about 30 or so lining up for you. Then the girl brings you to the room, where she first gives you a proper shower. She washes you real well.

Then she starts with a nice massage and at some point starts rubbing you all over with oil and then slides her nacked body over yours - mmmmmh that feels so good.

She then starts massaging your butt (they know that part real well) and your balls and dick.

When you are just about ready to explode, she stops and starts again with your back.

Once you cooled a bit down without blowing your load, she will give you a hot tea and ice water bj. Basically she starts with some hot tea in her mouth and after a wile (when you get reall excited) spits the tea out and takes some ice water in her mouth to give you a bj - this will cool you down real fast again. Then she switches all over again and so on and so on till you finally don't let her change again and blow your load in her mouth.

She then proceedes to give you again a massage and finally ends up sitting on your cock giving you a real good ride.

Now that's what I call a proper massage.

Sandog
11-02-02, 03:18
Happy Devil,

Where is this place and it this place in mainland China. What is the place name and how "hot' was the girl> What is the cost for FS?? I plan to head to China late this year so any tips are greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

San Dog

Khun
12-29-02, 08:08
Massage lovers shall go to Thailand sections. Thailand is world capital of the sensual massge.

Thanks

Jon Jones
03-17-03, 03:45
has anyone else noticed that the television commercials for bryman collegeís massage therapy program usually feature asian girls?

the following is taken from the bryman college webpage:
ďstudents will study medical law and ethics, providing an understanding of moral behavior, acceptable standards of conduct, and professional relations. adjunctive therapies, and how to integrate them into massage therapy, are also introduced. business aspects of massage therapy are offered to help graduates develop skills to create their own business as massage therapists.Ē

i wonder if ďadjunctive therapiesĒ are handjobs. :)

Master
06-26-03, 09:31
Originally posted by sandog
Happy Devil,

Where is this place and it this place in mainland China. What is the place name and how "hot' was the girl> What is the cost for FS?? I plan to head to China late this year so any tips are greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

San Dog Send me a mail and I will let you know, lives in China and traveled to all the cities.

European
07-27-03, 12:49
Hi Master

Can you give me some info about massage from Beijing?

Thanks

venom
10-04-03, 03:48
Does anyone know where I can get a massage in Nashville, TN?

Mass Funder
12-05-03, 21:03
I'm looking for a regular monthly masseuse near Lowell/Lawrence Massachusetts area. I work nearby and prefer lunch hour around 11:30 for an hour or so. Anyone got any information on local talent? I'm in my low 40s and prefer 28+.

Thanks in advance,

Mass Funder

venom
12-07-03, 23:20
Looking for a good massage in Tennessee. Does anyone know of someone?

USTraveller
01-14-04, 02:59
Here's are some tips and etiquette for you AMP/Spa Visitors looking for extras or for first time visitors. I'm one who prefers the AMPs to the other options because they seem to provide a safe and relaxing environment. I wanted to share some general information in a number of sections and decided to do it here instead as more people are likely to view it and add on. I hope this can help any newbies to AMPs or jog the memory of AMP experts to dish out some tips of their own.

1) Become a Repeat Customer - This seems to be the number one factor. The providers want to make sure you are "not a cop" and once they are comfortable that you aren't, they will more than likely provide extras.

2) Fake Being a Repeat Customer - If you haven't been to a particular place before, act like you have been. Get information about them in the forums for the cities you plan on visiting, or your home town. Find out the going rates for HJ, BJ, FS etc. and have the money handy. Even a little comment during the Table Shower or Sauna such as "this is my favorite part" or something along those lines will make them think you were there before.

3) Get a Business Card - Some AMPs have business cards so you can ask for one on your way out. I have the girls write their name on them so I didn't forget and I could "ask" for them when I go back. Even if they weren't there on my visit, it showed the new provider or mama-san that I was there before.

4) Leave Valuables and Extra Money Outside - Only take in what you need. Some places may want to see your ID. You will need money or a Credit Card to pay. I usually take my cell-phone, keys, and only enough money to pay for what I want. If you don't know what the charge will be, put money in different pockets or hide it in your wallet (behind a photo or something) so they don't see all your money at once. I had one girl looking in my wallet after I told her I was used to paying $100 for FS and she wanted $150. Luckily, I had already "moved" the extra money somewhere else.

5) Get Fully Undressed - Yes, you will be naked. In my experience, the girl takes your door fee, leaves for a minute or more. Sometimes she will ask you to get undressed, sometimes she won't, sometimes she will and you won't understand a word she said. So use this time to take ALL of your clothes off. My first time, I was standing in my underwear and she told me to take those off too. I felt as if she knew it was my first time. So get naked and if the towel slides off, let it. It will show her that you have done this before.

6) Use Provided "Purse" - Many times, you will see a little purse or bag that is there for you to put valuables in. Use it to put your "valuables" in and carry that with you to other areas of the spa. You may go to a sauna, hot-tub, shower, or table-shower. Since you won't have pockets, look for the little bag and carry it with you. If they don't have one, you can ask for one. In some places, you may just stay in the room you were brought into the entire time (no shower). In this case, you will be able to keep an eye on your things. If you are leaving the room and are worried, look for something to carry your valuables in. NOTE: Having your things in the little bag is a neat clue to the girl that you have done this before.

7) Shower Etiquette - Some places offer a shower where you go in yourself and wash. If they don't offer, ask if there is one. Some places take you to a table-shower where they put you on a table and wash you. Some places, the girl will wash everything including your genitals. This is a good thing. Some places may ask you to wash your own genitals and I would advise you to do so if you want them to do anything later. It is not generally appropriate to ask for extras at this time.

8) Enjoy the Massage - It's part of the experience, and the girls usually give you a pretty good massage. If you have a stiff neck, sore legs, or something else, let her know so she can concentrate on those areas. You usually start out on your stomach and she rubs your back, legs, arms, etc. She may brush against you with her crotch, lift up her skirt and sit on your butt, and lean over brushing her body against you. Different places vary as far as touching her, but light brushing on her leg or arm aren't too intrusive and will generally let her know you are looking for extras. This isn't necessary and I usually don't "touch" her until later.

9) Become Aroused - Usually, the girl will try to get you aroused. She'll lighten up the touch a little around your buttocks and brush your skin gently. Shift yourself if you do become aroused to "let her know" that you need room to grow. If you aren't getting aroused, shift yourself anyway to "fake" getting aroused. This will let her know that your johnson is growing and you are getting ready. She may even reach underneath and lend a helping hand if you are lucky.

10) Wait to Flip Over - At some point, she'll ask you to flip over. When she does, simply flip over onto your back. You may or may not be aroused at this point. Either way, she'll know and she'll do everything she legally knows how to make sure you get aroused. This is a time to smile and enjoy her expertise.

11) The Tip - The girl will usually ask if there is anything else she can do for you or if you are "OK". This is where you say what you want (HJ, BJ, FS) or make the HJ, BJ, FS "motions". She'll either say how much or just ask you for money. This is where knowing the going rate is handy. It's usually $40-$60 for HJ, $80-$100 for BJ, and $100-$140 for FS. Keep in mind that you can always negotiate and it may vary depending on where in the USA, or world, you are. She may leave for a minute or two or she may just start right there. It sucks if she leaves and a million thoughts run through your head.

12) The Fun Part - When she returns (or starts), it's generally acceptable that you can touch her. She may or may not like you to and you have to respect her individual level of comfort. I've had girls get completely naked, sit between my legs, and give me a HJ as well as one that stands there fully clothed doing it. I can't predict what will happen but this will affect your decision to return or not return. If you are getting BJ or FS, she will most likely provide and put on the condom (which I recommend) and she'll start. Again, if you want to be on top, do it doggie-style, or want her on top, they are generally open to how you want to do it.

13) Variations - If you are into DATY or other things, be up front with it. I've done DATY on a number of girls and some get into it and some don't. Some enjoy when you touch and finger them and some don't. Some will let you massage them and some won't. I've never looked for Anal so I can't give advice on that. Some places will only give HJ. So be aware and look for advice in your local forums.

14) Happy Ending - After the ending, she'll usually clean you up or get rid of the condom if there was one used. Sometimes, a hot towel, a beverage, and even mouthwash are provided. If you paid for an hour and you finish early, you may or may not get the full time limit. Some girls will continue the massage, some will tell you to get dressed. This is another area where different places differ greatly.

15) Post Your Experience - If you go and get good service, tell us all about it. We don't need every detail but the basics like name of the place, door fee, tip, and included extras. If you get ripped off at a place, tell us that too and we'll appreciate you "taking one for the team".

16) Be Polite - I use this motto in life, but the providers are people just like you and me, and they like being treated with respect. During the massage, try giving out a compliment such as "that feels nice" or "your hands are so soft" instead of something like "you have nice tits" or "I can't wait to f**k you". I find that being nice goes a lot farther than acting like an ass. Talk to them like you'd talk to a new friend.

Disclaimer: This is just based on my experience in AMPs in a few cities. I don't claim to be an expert. Feel free to add on your own tips and direct others from the forums you post in to this section. Next time someone asks "any advice for visiting an AMP for the first time", you can point them here and hopefully others will share their tips and advice. I'm always looking for new tips too.

Catfish
01-14-04, 03:46
Nice post traveler. I'm in San Diego and my general experience pretty much jives with what you described. My own timid nature makes it difficult for me to get to the extras sometimes, but a provider who saw I was struggling suggested that I remove the towel to indicate I wanted more. She had me put her hand on my johnson and said that practice should work most times. Of course, I have gone to a few where the opportunity for extras simply did not arise. I received no signals or body language from the provider and hence resigned myself to enjoy the massage and nothing more. Also, regarding the towel, I strip down and lay on my stomach without the towel while waiting for the massuse. Sometimes if they start to put the towel I'll tell them that it's ok they don't have to. If she does not put the towel that's pretty much a shoe-in for extras. I've also read or heard that any place that has the neon "Oriental Massage" sign is good for more.

Joe Zop
01-14-04, 04:29
Nice post, USTraveller. I'd simply add that I've had success in getting extras not only by faking being there before but by saying it's my first time at that particular spa, but that I've been at others.

This can be a useful approach if you're from out of town.

Worf1972
01-14-04, 09:43
US traveller,

Excellent pointers on AMP I will forward this information with your blessings.

Thanks

Sun Devil
01-14-04, 13:09
great post ustraveller. through some trials and errors, i have used some of your techniques to get full service at places i have never been to. i think the key to getting this is to act confidently as if getting full service is part of the menu. also it makes you appear that you have been to that place before.

when i went to d.c. once, i had asked the therapist about the price for full service at ginsa. the girl said that i should know this because i had already been there before. suffice to say, my attitude helped in this manner. in addition, i try to build rapport between the therapist and myself so that she feels comfortable with me and that i am not law enforcement.

Mighty Spearsman
01-14-04, 19:12
Great post USTraveller. I have written a similar list for both the CT and DC boards but not as comprehensive as your post.

IMHO, some points to re-emphasize are:

Get completely naked ASAP, even if the 65 year old mamasan hasn't left the room yet. That way they'll know that you're not LE. I've been told this by both AMP and non-AMP employees and owners.

Read WSG ahead of time to learn as much as possible about the place you'll be patronizing, including prices, services available, etc. One great trick is to read and discover which girl gave great service but is no longer working there, then ask for that girl by name when you show up. There's no way you can be called a liar on this since the girl is now gone, and the mamasan and everyone else will assume that you must be a repeat customer.

Go for a full hour or at least 45 minutes, not 30 minutes. Table showers performed by the girl are one of my favorite parts of any AMP, but some AMPs will only do them for 45-minute and 1-hour customers, and will tell the 30-minute customer to take the shower himself.

Flashman
01-14-04, 20:22
US Travellor

From one experienced "AMPIST" to another,

Very good post.

I will refer newbies to it when they ask. Saves us all a lot of typing!

Everything you said is right on the money and I cannot disagree with any of your comments.

Since we all know that YMMV applies to these places, the important thing is for fellow mongers to post good and bad reviews with names.

Country John
01-14-04, 21:34
If there was a forum "just for newbies," then I would say that the US Travellor post would be an excellent first post. Similar to the O'Toole post in the Mexico section. Excellent data well written.

Be Safe and BE NICE
Country John

Kool Klyde
01-23-04, 04:27
Lot of good info here. Something I have found that helps is when you pay for the massage (usually back in the room) know how much it is and have any discount ads/cupons or bussiness cards ready in the center of the money. I also carry a condom there and let it be seen when I pay for the massage. Has worked well the before as she asked "You bring condom with you yes?"

Merlin Magician
01-25-04, 18:28
One good technique I use in a strange (strange like I never been there, not WIERD) parlor is to get naked and don't let that little towel they give you touch your ass. If she keeps putting the towel on you, keep throwing it off.

Of course, once they leave the towel off then you can say that you always get "full body" massage. Also, you can ask about topless, etc. These are key words. When you turn over and Mr. Johnson is waking up, all should be in order.

I just love it when I go to AMP's and the Asian lady sees my big ol' boner and always says invariably, "Somebody is coming 'arrive'!" or "Some 'ting is waking up!"

Also, if you go to an AMP, ALWAYS ask about a prostate massage. Once you get one, you are bespoiled for life, I guarantee it.

(One thing I have found is that there are not many white massage ladies who will do prostate work. I don't know why; it must be the cultural.)

Vette78Man
02-16-04, 23:30
This forum is full of great pointers, and wish I had known about when I first ventured out to the amps. I think the most important part is to act relaxed and friendly when you in. When the mamasan answers the door smile and ask how she has been and give her a hug like she is a long last friend. They usually take your hand and give it a little squeeze as you walk back to your room. Always say you have been there before and I always say I cannot remember her name but say and show she was short with big boobs. They usually buy off and are happy. Everybody is right when it pays to know what the going rate at the place is. There are a couple places that know me and the mamasan lets me pick out my girl and other places usually just send one down. I normally do not carry my wallet into these places and put money in two different pockets and just make a gut feel of how much to pull out when the girl comes into the room. I don't like to have to negotiate during the session, so depending on the girl and the mood, just take the money out my pocket and put in on the little table. It has always worked and I have never been short changed by putting down fs and getting only hj or bj. Then just let the session run its course. I really like the shower part, especially if she is really good at that part. Just read a local thread about a amp where the girl gets naked in the shower and lets you wash her. Needless to say, I am heading there next.

Fluff
03-15-04, 17:44
I've always heard about prostate massages, but I never had the experience, until recently I think. I've been to plenty of MPs, usally AMPs, who lightly massage the anal area, and I thought that was what it was all about. Then I was visiting one of my usual AMPs in Boston, and she went much further this time. While I was still on my stomach, and she had reached under me to massage my tool, she massaged my anus, and then put her finger in it, lightly at first, but then deeper. It was a strange yet incredible sensation, somewhat hurtful but stimulating at the same time. In short order, I exploded like I've never exploded before. My question - is this what a prostate massage is supposed to be like? I'd appreciate feedback on this. Thanks.

Boxcc
03-23-04, 15:02
Might Spearsman, I agree with you about springing for the full hour. Usually, it puts them more at ease because you are willing to spend more money. You are right about the shower too. If you are going for the full hour, they are more often than not more playful in the shower room with you.

One question though, how many times has the mamasan or girl asked you to shower by yourself? I have never been left alone in the shower and I always assumed that it was because the girl wanted to make sure that you were clean in all the right places for her hygiene. Granted, if I only paid for a half hour, the shower experience was very rushed. I was only in there long enough to have my dick washed! But, the only time I've been left alone was in the Sauna waiting for a girl to get free to massage me. Just curious.

And, no, I'm not questioning the truth of anything you post. I can see that you are a very senior member with a lot of posts, so your word is golden. I've just never been left alone to shower before and wanted to be prepared for it if it happens. Especially if it happens a lot. Thanks, Box

Mighty Spearsman
03-23-04, 16:48
Dear Boxcc:

First, there is a HJ-only AMP, the New Seoul Spa in Vernon, Connecticut that I've been going to occasionally for over 10 years that does not provide table showers - you just take a shower by yourself. I always make sure that the important parts are washed thoroughly and clean. However, since it is definitely a HJ-only place, cleanliness is not that much of an issue. The main reason that I go here is when my back hurts and I need a good massage, but my funds are low ($50 house fee for an hour plus $30 or $40 for the girl).

If my funds are higher, I always go for a full-service AMP such as Hong Kong or Magic in Waterbury, CT.

For all other AMPs (other than the New Seoul), I have always received a table shower with the wash-up done by the girl, with the exception of one AMP in Waterbury, CT where I paid for only half an hour and was told that I should shower by myself. The girl told me that their policy was to not give a table shower unless the guy paid for at least 45 minutes. Since that time, I've always gone for an hour whenever I go to an AMP (some AMPs have a 45-minute option, but many do not).

I'm not sure how many AMPs follow that same policy of no table shower for 30 minute-customers, but it is something to think about. My main reason for recommending that mongers pay for 45 minutes or an hour is to avoid being rushed. I've been going to AMPs since 1989 and have noticed a distinct difference in the way the girl acts for a 30 minute session versus the longer session. Since the cost difference is usually small ($20 or even only $10), I now always go for the longer session.

HappyGardener
03-23-04, 18:21
http://members.lycos.co.uk/ampdude/newpage.html

This is an excellant guide on how to behave in AMP. I have posted it several times on the Iliinois board for all newbie questions. i don't think it is competition, Jackson, but rather a referral.

Boxcc
03-24-04, 14:52
Mighty Spearsman,

Thank you for your response. I have only been to AMPs in GA, SC, NC, and PA. So, I did not know about the shower yourself routine. Thanks for the info, it is most appreciated.

Also, I agree totally about springing for the full hour. The more money that the AMP thinks you are willing to spend, the better they treat you. If you only pay for the half hour, they do try to rush you because they think either you are cheap, or you don't have a lot of money. They are not going to waste a lot of effort on you if they think there is no monetary reward coming for their time. However, if you do pay for the hour, they see you as a potentially big 'tipper', so they go all out to try to separate you from your money, which can be most enjoyable!

One more thing for any newbies out there. It is very, very important that these providers feel comfortable with you. You have to act as relaxed as possible, which means you have to act like you have done this all before. If the AMP gets nervous about you, or thinks you haven't been there before, you will not get what you went there looking for. You probably won't even get a HJ. Stay relaxed, be nice and treat them with respect. Try to bond with them if you can. Talk, joke or laugh as much as possible. Let them feel comfortable, that is, if they speak good English. If they don't speak English very well, just be very gentle, don't move too quickly and never, never talk about money for sex! Just give them a tip and see what happens. If you tipped enough, then you will get what you want. If not, you just blew some money. But, if you RTFF, you should have a good idea of how much everything costs in your area. Good Luck!

Catfish
03-24-04, 17:21
Great pointer on the hour session. I sometimes tend to be a quick shooter. Has anyone ever negotiated for a two-pop in an hour session? That would certainly warrant a nice tip.

HappyGardener
03-25-04, 16:25
We had this discussion on the Chicago board a couple of years ago. I think the consesous was, you would be hard-pressed to get a second shot. Some suggested cleaning the pipes before hand so that you were a little slower on the draw. Although I would tend to agree with you, once that well oiled hand touchs me, I tend to go pretting quickl

There was a spa in the Chicago area where the girls were doing their handy work in the shower, which raised the possibility of more later on. But I think we all realized it was so they could clean up eaiser and not deal with clothing issues in the room.

Boxcc
03-25-04, 16:37
Catfish, if you want to pop twice, you usually have to pay twice, or at least pay more. I had that problem too when I first started visiting AMPs. I would get so excited that I would only get a couple strokes before I blew my wad. What I did was I started to jerk off before I went. When I did that, I lasted longer and had a better time with the provider. Soon, I didn't have to do that any more. I became more relaxed with every visit and was able to overcome my nervousness and anxiety that was causing my 'problem.'

Mighty Spearsman
03-25-04, 16:53
Dear Catfish:

Both Boxcc and HappyGardener make some good comments.

Over the years, there have been a few occasions where I have had two shots during a 1-hour session at an AMP in Connecticut. In every case, it was with a girl who I had been more than once in the past.

In one case, the girl did FS right after the TS, then gave me a decent massage, then finished me off with a HJ at the end, after first hinting that the tip would be $120 not the usual $100. Fine with me, and needless to say, I then always asked for her during future visits for the same two-shot service, until she left the AMP.

In two other cases (both at HJ-only AMPs), I would receive a HJ during the table shower, then a great, sexy second HJ at the end of the hour. Neither girl asked for a slightly bigger tip, but I gave one anyway - I'm sure that they knew that I would. My guess is that both girls were doing this as a non-rule-breaking way of getting a bigger tip, since obviously the tips at HJ-only place will be smaller than at a FS AMP. :)

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For non-AMPs, it depends on both the MP and the girl. But usually the big issues are time and money. Several girls at the MPs in Houston, Texas (Escape in Houston, GFE, the various Latina spas) will "ring your bell two times" but it depends on the girl (and also on whether you yourself can do two times in an hour!). During a visit to Houston last year, I had two-shot sessions at both Escape 1 with Susan ($240 total for BBBJ at beginning, covered FS at end) and with Lisa at Maria's Escorts ($160 total). Susan's gone from Escape but several other girls are up for two shots if you are. And Lisa is now working at GFE Houston.

Muggs
05-08-04, 07:18
Guys read this study on Asian girls in massage parlors in SF.

Pay close attention to the findings.

http://www.caps.ucsf.edu/publications/nemoto.pdf

Star Dreamer
05-10-04, 10:46
Muggs,

Thanks for the post. Interesting reading. Here on the East Coast of the U.S., my favorite AMP has an "official" but unposted "no FS" and "girls must keep their clothes on" house policy to keep the peace with LE. Of course, in the privacy of the massage room, these can be easily negotiated away with a provider based on a decent tip (five Jacksons in our area).

Because of the strict "house policy" the girls aren't allowed to have condoms on them so if you ask for full service and are denied, that's probably why at this establishment. Whenever I bring my own condom, especially when I call ahead for an appointment, I've never had a problem getting full service.

In fact, one time recently I was the first customer of the day and a slew of others arrived soon after me. I regularly see the same provider so we've built up quite a rapport. I usually can manage some extra time. This time, she asked after the TS if we could forego the "massage" and go right to the main event! I obliged since I know she'll treat me right next time.

The study's findings on violence towards providers was certainly troubling. While there are a fair share of AMP girls that are good con artists, there are also a few that really get into it even if they really hate their line of work or at least put up a good front for the customer that don't deserve threats or actual violence from customers. It's with the latter that I try to build up a good client/provider relationship like anyone would in any line of business (remember that even though it's part service, part fantasy, it's still a business relationship.)

I continue to be amazed of customers (at least here in the U.S. anyway) that barge into an AMP, try to tip sub-standard or the absolute minimum, treat the girls horribly, and then complain about a "mechanical" performance based on some of the reports I've read here. No wonder.

My favorite provider will now FS me without even seeing the tip money up front because she knows I won't rip her off if she doesn't rip me off. This is paying the going rate for our area with an occasional bonus for an exceptional performance.

Finally, I noticed the population of this study was predominatly workers from SE Asia. Here on the East Coast, at least where I frequent, the providers are mostly Korean so I wonder how much of a variance there might be in attitudes and experiences.

Boxcc
05-11-04, 13:57
Spyguy, I have found that I have had my best MP experiences at a Korean establishment. I think it has something to do with the culture. I have found that if you treat them with respect and kindness, it will be returned to you.

I also agree with becoming a regular at a place if at all possible. That way they get to know you and you them. Everyone is more comfortable and a better time is had by all. It is very nice to get the massage, get the service then pay for it. I like building trust. Actually, I think the girls like it too because I always pay more for great service. If I pay up front, it never seems that I get the great service and the girls never seem to work hard enough to get that extra tip. So, if I pay afterwards, they usually end up with more money and I had better service, again, everybody is happy.

I do not like using a spa that has American girls. American girls think their shit is worth more and usually charge accordingly. And, to top it off, the American girls never seem to get into their work like the Asians do. Don't get me wrong, I've had a few good experiences with American girls, but for the most part I am usually left wanting more. I much prefer an AMP.

Dothan
05-11-04, 15:13
A long time ago when I first got into mongering, it was because of an AMP in St. Joseph, Missouri. One day a sign appeared in a low rent strip mall that said "Tokyo Spa".

I went, and a beautiful young woman answered the door. She told me $25 for a half hour, $50 for an hour. I paid, and she led me to a room with a bed in it, and gave me a massage, that was all. I didn't know how to ask, and she didn't offer. This was in the very early days of the internet, and I didn't have any resources on the subject.

I went back, got a massage, tipped twenty bucks, and nothing. I was pretty broke, so it was a week before I could go back, but I did, and tipped $40 bucks.

In the middle of the massage she told me to roll over, and I got a wonderful HJ.

I became a once a week customer, and saw several different girls. After six weeks or so, the one I was with that day stopped where the hand job would have happened, and left the room. When she came back she had on an old looking, see-through black teddy.

She put a hat on me, and rode me cowgirl. I tipped $20 more (a otal of $85, a fortune for a young broke person in that day).

After a few weeks of CG with one or another of the three girls that lived there, each time with them leaving and changing into the same teddy, I went in to my appointment, and told the girl to go change right away. She looked at me, a little mystified, and then did. I put her on the table, massaged her, and did mish.

I'm telling you that was the best AMP I have ever seen, and the best two years of my life. They never changed in front of me, were always freshly showered, and very quiet.

One day I went to my normal appointment, went back to the massage room, and one of the three girls was there, already in the teddy. She was standing with her hand on the table. She looked back at me and said

"John...fuck please."

It was awesome.

The very best memory I have is the day a new girl came to the massage room for the first time. She was awkward, and as I didn't know her, I was a bit nervous. then one of the other girls came in and started talking to her in what I assume is Chinese. Her eyes got big, and she immediately left, coming back in the teddy. The more experienced girl stayed in the very small room with us, speaking softly in Chinese, coaching the new girl. It seemed to turn the more experienced one on, and when it was all done, the new girl left and I DATY'd the more experienced one to a nice, loud O.

An odd note, I saw several of these girls working at a chinese buffet in town, a time or two. They moved around a lot, and in the two years I was there, there were probably twelve girls who worked at the spa, usually three living there at a time.

Star Dreamer
05-13-04, 10:23
Boxcc,

I definitely agree with your assessment based on my experience. For example, during a session recently with my regular provider at a Korean AMP, we returned to the massage room together after the TS. Typically, the girls leave the room for a few minutes (perhaps to lube up) before starting the massage and the extras (this is the time I usually take the tip money and my personally provided condom out and set it on the table next to the bed underneath my watch), but this time she didn't leave. After a great massage and BBBJ, we went right to FS and a near-GFE. I never mentioned the tip and she never asked. After a tremendous session, I was getting dressed and she politely reminded me "my money?" Of course, I tipped her my usual amount.

Another time, I was their first customer of the day early in the afternoon. I had an appointment which the girls also seem to like (they like to be ready for regulars when you arrive). After my arrival, a few other mongers showed up and she was probably worried because they only have 2 girls working during the day. She asked me after a great TS if I'd mind foregoing the back rub and getting right into the main event to save time. I know some other guys would probably throw an angry fit in this situation and I really do enjoy the massage, specially when she walks on my back, but I agreed because I know she'll more than make up for it at our next session. She has also given me free "bonus" time before where I've paid a $60 house charge for 50 minutes but received 1 hour or more of service.

Another advantage to being a regular with a particular girl is that she gets to know your preferences and if you don't act like an arrogant jerk, the Korean girls really do seem to treat you with kindness. My favorite provider is very "customer service" oriented and always asks me "you cum yet?" or "did you have a good time?" before we finish because she wants me to feel I got my money's worth and that I'll return again soon.

I didn't particularly enjoy my experience in the Philippines with those girls, but the Japanese girls I hooked up with in Tokyo were as good as the Korean girls. It's hard to find Japanese girls in AMPs in the U.S., though except perhaps in Honolulu where you might occasionally find one working.

Boxcc
05-21-04, 19:54
Spyguy, I used to go to an AMP in South Carolina so much that they told me to just come in the back door! They didn't want my vehicle spotted from the road since it was there all the damn time, and since I was 'family' I could come in the back door any time I wanted. The girl I visited was named Lin. Man, she was hot. I would put her age somewhere in her late 30's but she looked a lot younger. (You just can't tell age sometimes on asian women!)

Anyway, I visited her one Wednesday evening, and I guess I was the only customer that day because she was very glad to see me. I got an extra long shower, then massage, I was in heaven. We finally got down to fs, and I have to say that it as a true GFE. When we were finally finished, she asked if I wanted to go again. I told her that I only brought enough money for one time, she said that she didn't care, she wanted to do it again, so we did. That was my best time ever at an AMP.

Lin is mamasan of her own place now. I visit it from time to time, but it isn't the same as visiting Lin. I ask her to do my massage, but she won't. She did say that we could go out to dinner sometime. I might just have to take her up on that.

Star Dreamer
06-03-04, 10:44
during a recent session at my favorite amp, i had an unusual "behind the scenes" look into the "inner sanctum" office of the establishment.

i was the first visitor of the day and the mama-san of the amp, which is located in an office building, is also my regular provider. when i arrived, she and i were the only people there. we have a good rapport.

after i got undressed and spent some time in the sauna in preparation for the ts, she came to get me and asked if i would look at the amp's stereo system, which was located in her office. apparently the girls working there the night before had changed the station and she was having difficulty getting it tuned back to the regular "smooth jazz" station that they usually play there. it was a rather old am/fm tuner with a built-in cd player. i did get it tuned back to where she wanted and took advanatge of my time in there to take in the sights.

this is a small amp. the most girls i've seen working there are 3 at a time. the office had handwritten notes in korean tacked up along one wall for almost ten feet lengthwise. it sure would be interesting to know what the notes said, but i wasn't about to inquire. there were korean calendars on the wall but nothing at all in english.

there is a 10 inch black and white monitor which was attached to a camera which i had never noticed before in the entry vestibule. this amp has a small vestibule or "holding area" that anyone can enter with a posted price list of non-sexual services ostensibly offered (although i've never seen most of those provided during my visits.) the resolution of the camera was surprisingly good so the mama-san and girls can assess a customer before he even rings the buzzer for entry into the controlled area of the amp. next time i'm there, i'll see if i can locate the small camera in the vestibule.

there was a bathroom with a single commode and a shower for employee use along with a laundry room where the towels are washed and dried. some larger amps may have a room where some of the girls can stay overnight, but this one apparently does not. there are three massage chairs like those you might also find in a day spa that the girls use to sit on when not with customers, but overall the office area is kind of austere.

the bottom line is this:

1. most of the better amps use the "double door" controlled entry system to screen for suspicious customers, non-employee women, le, etc. when i was there, one of the girls arrived for work and she had to buzz the door for entry, too. during a first time visit to an amp, try to look a relaxed as possible in the vestibule while awaiting entry since you're probably being evaluated, either through a peep hole in a door or on a video surveillance system.

2. when the girls are not with customers, the office area where they hang out is quite austere. yes, the good providers earn good money in tips, but i can imagine how working 8 or 10 hours a day (or longer) in such small confines doing amp work could burn a girl out. as a result, if you make an attempt to be nice to the girls, some will reciprocate with better than average service for you.

3. most importantly, don't forget that amps are a business and they are trying to keep their costs low like any other business to increase the profit for the house.

Bob Jones
06-06-04, 19:13
I heard years ago that MPs in Thailand use a soapy substance. It was implied this was for a better body slide. It was not baby oil. I don't think it was any of the usual lubricants sold in the U.S. And it was definitely not soap.

Anyone have any idea what this was and where to buy some?

Wooly1
06-08-04, 07:14
Hey guys,

I have a question that I'm sure everyone here has thought about atleast once. What are the risks invovled in going to an MP. (i. e. STDs and police stings), I really want to go to an MP but am affraid of the risks. Your input would be appreciated!

Boxcc
06-08-04, 20:04
Spyguy, excellent report on the inner sanctum! I myself have seen similar setups in most of the AMPs that I frequent. I also argree with you that the nicer you are to the girls, the nicer they will be to you in return.

Wooly1, I would always recommend using and AMP, Asian Massage Parlor. An AMP is the best way to avoid a sting. If you go to an American MP, then one of two things will happen. You will either get busted in a sting or you will get ripped off by paying way too damn much for American pussy! Either way, you are fucked! lol.

Seriously though, I will not use an American MP for those very reasons. You can never tell if the girl is involved in a sting or not until it is too late. Now, you should pick up on the big hints she will be giving like: trying to get you to talk about specific sex acts for money, or by her not letting you touch or sample the merchandise BEFORE money is exchanged! But, you cannot tell by looking at an American girl if she is a cop or not. And, if she is not a cop, she definitely will want you to pay a lot to get off and that doesn't always ensure that you get fs either. It may mean that you pay $200 to get a naked hand-job! Who the fuck wants to pay $200 for a fucking HJ. I'd rather go buy a porno movie for 40 and do it myself, at least then I can do it over and over again for the same amount of money! lol.

There are other benefits to going to an AMP, other than knowing if the girl is a cop or not. I think the whole experience at a AMP is cleaner. They will most always give you some sort of shower or bath before they make contact with you. Then, while they are giving the massage, they are examining your body very closely to see if you have any signs of an STD. If you do have signs of and STD, then you won't be getting any extras from the girl! They always require a condom too, so the risk to themselves is minimized. Since their risk is minimized by using a condom, the risk to you is even further reduced when you use a condom as well.

Personally, as far as STDs go, I think an AMP is about the safest environment to purchase sex. There is risk involved whenever you 'buy' sex. But, I think that risk is greatly reduced in the 'cleaner' environment of an AMP.

Then again, that is just my opinion and as everyone knows, opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one! lol.

Slickman
06-08-04, 22:16
Wooly,

In my opinion, the chances of getting caught in a "police sting" are very slim in an AMP. Most of the time, the cops send in an undercover to see if he'll get solicited for sex. If he does, the girl gets busted. That doesn't necessarily mean the AMP gets shut down because the operators of the AMP will likely claim that all they do is collect the up front fee and they have no control over what the girls do in the rooms. Of course, too many repeat offenses and the place will be shut down.

It's not easy for undercover LE to bust these places. Most of the girls are suspicious of guys they haven't seen before. They sometimes won't offer anything unless you make the first move. That first move should be bold. Don't just rub her leg. Reach up her dress and touch her pussy.

It's also best not to discuss the "tip." There is a theory that leaving the cash on the table in plain sight solves some of the problem since if there's no discussion of sex for pay, there's no prostitution offense. This may or may not hold up in court but at least you can say that you didn't agree to pay for anything, you just left your cash on the table while you were getting the massage.

As for STDs, you can be 99+% safe by just insisting on a condom for FS or BJs. BBBJs supposedly have some risk but more to her than to you. Personally, I don't mind CBJs. Oral sex on her (DATY) has slightly higher risks but most of the Koreans I've seen seem to be very clean.

It took me about a year to work up the nerve to walk into an AMP. If you're curious, give it a shot. Just realize that the biggest danger isn't an STD or a police bust, but rather that you may become hooked on this hobby like the rest of us here.

Star Dreamer
06-09-04, 10:31
Wooly1,

I fully agree with Boxcc's assessment, AMPs are definitely the way to go. For getting started, here are some suggestions for you:

1. Read the reviews of the AMPs in your area and stick with one that has consistently good reviews here on the WSG. Occasionally everyone will have a disappointing session, such as when a girl is having a bad day or if her previous customer was a real jerk. Once you get more experience, you can try new or unknown AMPs as you feel comfortable doing so.

2. As the customer, you should be somewhat assertive (without being a jerk) about what you want. From what I've read on the WSG nd other web sites, use of a condom will significantly reduce the risk of STD transmission. My favorite AMP offers BBBJ which, while not totally risk free, is of relatively low risk for STD transmission for the male compared to other activities (assuming neither participant has any open sores, etc.) Some girls will only do a CBJ and some won't let you DATY. Personally, I try to avoid DATY with AMP girls, but that is my choice and preference.

3. Many AMP girls shave their pubic areas to help reduce the chance of contacting an STD. Many will also douche and lube up. Experienced girls will also try to shower themselves between customers if they can.

The girls have as much to lose as anyone so the ones that work in the reputable AMPs that aren't out to rip you off will take resonable precautions against STD. If you find one that will allow unprotected FS, look out!

Boxcc
06-10-04, 16:08
slickman and spyguy, very good points. i have always found that if you start talking about a 'tip' or start asking for things, that's when you start running into problems with the provider. they instantly get suspicious when you talk money or specifics.

i always leave my wallet in the car. the only things i carry into an amp are my car keys and cash. i have enough for the house fee + extra tip for excellent service in one pocket and the money for the actual 'tip' in another. i pay the house fee and go get my shower and massage. they inevitably start the massage with you lying on your stomach. i think it is best to try to relax and enjoy the massage as much as possible. if you become relaxed, so do they, they aren't as suspicious if you are appearing to enjoy the rubdown. i also like to take every opportunity to touch the provider whenever i can. like when she comes to the head of the table to rub your shoulders, i love to rub her ass a little, trying to be gentle and not [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) her off. but, i want to establish in her mind exactly what i'm there for. when it gets time for her to ask you to turn over, it always helps if you are sporting wood already. if not, that's okay, but if you are, she knows there is going to be 'tip' of some sort or another.

if you aren't sporting wood already, let her massage you some more. inevitably, she will get close to the monster and awaken him from his slumber. at that point, the point where she is either close to touching the dick, or has even actually touched it, that is when i casually stand up, reach into my pocket and hand her the cash. i usually hand over $100, and that will do the trick. she will disappear for a minute to get the condom and wash that little pussy and come back for some fs.

notice: i never said anything about sex, or asked for sex, or offered to pay for sex, i just gave my massage therapist a tip for a great massage. she took it upon herself to give me a tip in return by fucking my eyeballs out! lol.

now, she may tell you that $100 isn't enough, but more often than not, they don't complain about 100. usually it is the younger/prettier ones that will try to extort more money at this point. the more experienced women just go about their business of pleasuring you. they know that if they give great service, there may be even more of a tip when you are through.

and, i make it a special point of giving an extra tip if the girl has really done a great job. this does two things for you, one, it will make the girl remember you more easily because you were generous and two, when you do return, since she remembers you as a good tipper, she will try even harder the next time in hopes of getting even more money out of you. either way you can't loose!

Boxcc
06-10-04, 16:17
BTW, Spyguy, I have only had one instance where I ran into a new girl at a AMP. She was new because the mamasan asked if she could come in a teach the girl how to massage. I said now problem. I was a regular, so the mamasan was comfortable asking me to do this. I got an extra long massage by two girls and it was great. When it came time to do the turn over and tip thing, the mamasan said that she would leave now and let us have our fun.

The girl, I say girl, but she was little older, maybe 30 or so, and looked to have just come over on the boat. She started a BBBJ that was pretty good. After a while she just climbed up on the table and was going to mount me right then without going to get a condom. I told her no way! She seemed embarrassed about it, and tried to cover by saying, I forget. She excused herself, went and got one and then we finished. I could also tell that she was new because I had to give her the money after we had finished, but she had not asked for it, and was going to let me leave without paying for it. But, I just couldn't do that to her, she was pretty good, especially for a first time with a customer!

But, I would never, ever under any circumstances have unprotected sex with one of these girls. So, if she wouldn't have gone to get a condom, I would have had to settle for a bbbj!

Stoner
06-18-04, 17:28
Where are the good wh-ore houses these days!
Damn, I want a good ole-fashioned wh-ore house like my daddy had available!

Is there any of worth still standing along the east coast US?

I'm suffering such withdrawl! ;)

RealFun
06-22-04, 09:50
since we're talking about amp experiences, here's the story of my first.

i started out hobbying in europe, where its legal. back in the states as a newbie i got burned a bit sometimes but learned through experience. it was before discussion boards like this existed, and i didn't network with any other guys because i was married. so i was totally on my own. there were no amps in my town, so i usually went to one of the 2-3 american mp's, sometimes escorts, etc. i had no idea that anything like an amp even existed.

my wife and i were on vacation out of state, in a city that was unfamiliar to either of us. we were looking for a certain sushi restaurant in a commercial area with lots of malls and strip malls, so it was overwhelming trying to spot the specific restaurant. we realized we had probably driven a little too far down the strip so i pulled into a parking lot to turn around. we were on the fringe of where the commercial area thins out, a typical location for an amp.

as i was trying to focus on navigating through the unfamiliar access roads and parking lot medians, something caught my wife's eye... her head turned and she opened her mouth to speak but all that came out was something like, "hey - ther'...(mumbles) nah nothin...(voice trails off)..."

the strip mall was to our right so i had to duck down and lean to see what she saw out of the window on her side. it was just a business with the word "tokyo" in the name, it probably caught her eye because we were looking for a sush place, but she instantly detected it wasn't a restaurant at all. i was about 30 ft from the building and i saw "tokyo health spa" in non-descript lettering that was a contrast to all the other businesses that had neon and big 3-d lettering or some gimmick to draw attention. there were no windows, just a glass door covered completely with reflective mylar. there was lettering on the door that said:

tokyo health spa
dry sauna
steam sauna
shower
massage:
swedish
deep tissue
accupressure
shiatsu
reflexology

the hours were on there too but i missed that as i was trying to drive. anyways, i didn't even give the place a second thought. i wasn't in the hobbying frame of mind, i was trying to focus on driving in a confusing situation. this all took less than two full seconds to occur: tokyo gets my wife's attention, she starts to speak but stops before the words are all the way out, i look and see the door but ignore it because its not the restaurant and my head snaps back forward as i watch where i'm driving, my eyes darting all over the maze of medians so i can get back to the boulevard... but out of the corner of my eye i can see that my wife's head is still turned towards tokyo as it gets behind us.

then she says something under her breath, as if she were just thinking out loud more than talking to me, i can barely hear her. again, this takes longer to tell than it took to happen. so, she had made the comment "hey - ther'...(mumbles) nah nothin'...(voice trails off)..." then i glance, see the door, look away, she's still focused on tokyo and mumbles to herself, "i don't even want to know what that place is all about..."

i'm really trying to pay attention to the driving and i'm only half paying attention to anything she says unless she's saying she sees the restaurant. so it takes a couple beats for the gears in my head to slowly start turning. next i find myself questioning what the hell does she mean with that kind of attitude? i turn my head all the way around to get a good look at tokyo.

from a distance i see what i now know is the typical set up for the outside of an amp. while all the other businesses in the tiny out of the way strip mall clamor and compete for attention, here's a little dark door with flat black unlit letters. "hmmm," i think to myself, " 'health spa,' hey????" i decide to make an excuse sometime during the vacation to go "run an errand" by myself and check the place out.

first i call the place on the phone and find out that they're open until 10pm. clue number one, but then 10 isn't all that late really, but it did raise my suspicions. the mamasan politely quoted all the prices and services offered, but there was nothing during the conversation to tip me off.

when i get there some older asian lady, over 60, lets me in and asks if i been there before. luckily i was thinking on my feet and said yes. she asked who i saw, i said i don't remember the name. she asked me to describe the girl, i just say, "she was asian." mamasan just stare at me like i'm going to say more. then she's staring at me like i'm stupid. then she looks suspicious and asks me to tell her more about the girl i saw. i started giving a bogus description and eventually she buys it and asks for the house fee and tells me to get undressed and the girl will be right in.

i leave my underwear on and wrap a towel around me and sit in the chair. now when the girl walked in, had she been dressed like 99% of the amp workers i've ever seen since, i would have known for sure what an amp was for. but noooo, she's wearing shorts and a t-shirt. one tiny clue was that the shorts were fairly short, but they weren't a 'sexy' style, just lounging shorts. the t-shirt was kinda baggy with something dorky on it. the other very minor clue was that she was barefoot. and i guess the other clue was that she kinda giggled to herself when she saw me. now i understand that its because she expected me to be naked on the table, not in the chair with my boxers showing under the towel. in any case, i don't think a legitimate professional massage therapist would just openly laugh at a client during an awkward moment.

her name was nana. she asks if i want a shower. i just had taken one, and didn't know about the nice t.s. that would have been in store for me. i learned at amer mp's that it can be a minor time-saver if i skip the self-shower and get on with the action. so i asked if i could pass on that and she agreed. she offered the sauna, i passed on that too. she offers to get started with the massage, i say ok. she gestures for me to get on the table.

i try to casually yet modestly get on the table, keeping the towel around my waist until i'm on my stomach, then i open it and just keep it accross my butt. she just watches all this with great amusement. i was trying to hide my embarassment and play it cool but i think it was pretty easy for her to see i was a newbie.

the next clue came when she climbed up and squatted over me, her butt on mine with her knees up in the air. as she massaged me i could feel her crotch grinding on my butt. i was pretty sure at this point that extras were on the menu. after about 20 minutes of massage that was somewhere between very decent and great she starts to slow down. i tell her that i'd like to tip her for a great job. she climbs down and i throw the towel off and walk to my pants. i get out $20 and say "thanks."

then i say something like, "i really like you, it was fun to talk to you, too. i wish i could get to know you more but i know you're working now..." she responds with something like, "thank you, you nice guy too, i like give you massage. come see me again, ok?" i'm trying to act flirty, she's responding in kind. i step closer to her as i hand her the $20 and she doesn't back away. i say, "i mean, i really wish i could have more fun here... maybe just a little more time... if i pay for more time, can you and me have more fun?" she asks, "what do you mean, 'more fun?...' "

we go back and forth like this for a while, she lets me keep getting closer, i say something like, "i feel like you're a good friend, can i give you a hug?" she allows it, and i ever so slowly start moving my hands down her body. at this point i'm still not 100% sure that i'm with a provider, and the last thing i want to do is insult a legit girl.

long story less long, she presses her body against mine, there's more mumbling about paying for more time, paying for more 'fun', how much i got, what do i want, etc. i figured it was pretty much in line with the price at an amer mp so i offered 100 to "go all the way." she got me up to $120 and left the room.

when nana returned she told me that mamasan was demanding a minimum of $20 more for the house since we were starting to go over on time for a 30 min session. i really thought it was a newbie-geek-check squeeze play and i resisted hard. then i realized the amount of time that i'd been in there, and if i had known from the beginning that a full menu was available i probably would've moved things along a little faster. that really was the last of what i brought in, and the girl had a condom in her hand so i just shrugged and coughed it up.

when she returned i offered to give her a massage, which she thoroughly enjoyed, more than most american providers ever appreciated it. i found out later that that particular amp gets very little business and that it gets mostly really old guys.

i'm no hottie but my massage must have gotten her in the mood and she really got into it. she wasn't shy about directing me on the best technique and rhythm to get her to pop 3-4 times in various positions. after a while mamasan was yelling at her from the hall, and the girl yelled back. later the girl told me that mamasan was saying that time was up, but nana argued back that it didn't matter because there were no other customers.

i came back later in the week. mamasan asked if i wanted nana or the one other girl working at the time, i asked for nana again. when nana came to the room she told me that after i left last time she had gotten into debate with the mamasan, the jist of it being that mamasan was saying whether its busy or not, you get the customers in and out on time or else they get spoiled and expect extra time on every visit. nana defended herself (and us) saying that i was on vacation and would only come there a few times and then be gone for good anyways.

again i skipped the shower and sauna (i still didn't know about the enjoyable table shower i was passing up). i tipped right away, nana went to get the supplies. i could hear nana and the mamasan having another heated debate. not quite a fight or argument but i could tell they were in disagreement. eventually i could hear resignation in both of their voices, but it sounded more like nana was ending up with the upper hand. when she came into the room she was grinning ear to ear and said, "mamasan says as long as we don't get more than one other customer waiting, you and me can have as long as we want!" it seemed to me that mamasan didn't so much agree, she probably just figured there was nothing she could do about it anyways.

we didn't really take much more time over an hour anyways, but the session was pretty awesome.

about 6 months after returning home after that vacation i noticed a tiny ad in the sports section of the local newspaper. it was another place with almost the exact same name, "tokyo oriental health spa" in a town about 75 min drive time from my house. i've since discovered that there are several great amps in that city and i've been hooked ever since.

my general hobbying experience did help me a bit on my first visit. but i do have to recognize just how much "beginner's luck" came into play on that first visit.

Professer
06-22-04, 17:06
Now thats a story. Sounds like most of our first experiances

Stoner
06-24-04, 04:03
Haha...sounds like the Tokyo Health Spa I knew and love in Waterbury. :)

RealFun
06-24-04, 07:07
One thing that is kinda fucked up is how my wife is the one that initially drew my attention to the place. And more than that, she's the one that planted the thought in my head that it may provide more than the advertised services.

She's actually relatively naive about that sort of thing, and here I am the experienced hobbyist. I just glanced, saw "Health Spa" and all the massage services and just shrugged it off.

After her comment about not wanting to know what goes on in there, I got another good long look at it, from a distance, and it had that sort of seedy discreet ambiance that you see at places like adult book stores and other kinds of mp's, etc.

I'm not much of a sports fan and it was just sort of a fluke that I finally stumbled upon the ad in my hometown paper. On my first vistit to that place I saw a couple of girls right away in the hallway that were wearing flirty skimpy clothing and I knew immediately that there would be 'extras' on the menu.

That city is Rockford, IL which is a great spot with 6 AMPs. 3 are great, the other 3 are just OK but all offer full menus at all times.

If you're ever in Chicago looking for AMP fun, it may be worth a little extra drive to go to Rockford. The AMPs in the nearby Chicago burbs are hit or miss and notorious for having older providers. Rockford is probably just a little over an hour from the downtown area via an interstate.

Boxcc
06-24-04, 19:43
RealFun, great story. If I was a betting man, I'd say that at least half of the mongers on this board started out at AMPs the same way. They just stumbled into them. I know it happened to me that way.

I also wish that this board was around when I was first getting started. It wouldn't have been so awkward in the beginning if I had had pointers from guys like us!

The only bad thing about the area that I live in is that there are several good AMPs in the Greenville/Anderson South Carolina area, but, we hardly ever talk about them on this board because the women at the AMP monitor this board for info too, and get quite upset if we talk about them. So, we are almost back to the point of not discussing what goes on at AMPs. At least we have this generic board to discuss massages in general so that people can get the info they need.

It has been my experience that it doesn't matter what city or state you are in, if you come across an AMP, they usually operate the same exact way, or pretty close anyway. The only difference usually is the price and quality!

RealFun
06-25-04, 08:08
Boxcc wrote: "It has been my experience that it doesn't matter what city or state you are in, if you come across an AMP, they usually operate the same exact way, or pretty close anyway. The only difference usually is the price and quality!"

Generally that's true, but there are some AMPs that operate on that rep but provide little to nothing for extras. That's where the finer points of negotiating extras comes in handy. Experience and thinking with the right head are key. For every category of hobbying there are women out there that will string you along making you think you're getting more, get you to pay, then stop you short. Like an escort that tells you $150 for full service, and then after she has your money won't give up the booty, saying that, to her, a hand job is full service.

For a long time when I was a nervous newbie I'd try to be real clever and subtle when asking for extras. Extended double entendres, lots of gestures and leading statements, etc, always trying to avoid crossing that line beteen legal and illegal. I even did this when I knew for sure the girl wasn't LE.

It was a huge revelation when I figured that you only have to be careful when you think there's a chance that the girl is LE or setting you up or something. If you know that she isn't trying to catch you in the act, like at an AMP or if its a well reviewed provider, then basically you can say whatever you want.

Here's how a lot of providers that are experienced rip-off artists will get a "newbie" hobbyist to pay extra: when he starts trying to ask how much for what, she shoots him a dirty look and tries to turn the conversation to a more subtle level. The guy is sort of on the defensive, he thinks she's skittish and he doesn't want to scare her off. So he starts using euphamisms and leading statements, he's trying to find a way to "say it without saying it." Once she has him doing that, then she can make implications by suggesting a tip amount. Then there's lots of teasing and foreplay and when it comes to the main event she claims she doesn't do that and that she has provided the services that were negotiated.

Bottom line: do a cop check on eachother, if you both pass then you can say anything you want. If the girl acts skittish she's either genuinely inexperienced or she's trying to con you.

I wish I had learned that sooner. More often than I'd like to admit I ended up paying $100-$300 to have a girl do little more than strip or maybe offer a handjob.

Through experience, I've learned that whether its an all inclusive fee, a house fee, arrival fee, door fee, whatever the case may be, I always try to hold on to as much of my money as long as I can until I'm sure of what I'll get. For example, if I'm at an AMP in a new town I'll pass on the table shower, or if they insist on me washing up I'll insist on doing a stand-up self-shower; then I push hard to negotiate extras before the massage starts. That way, if things go south early and fast, I can at least try to get all or part of my house fee refunded.

Blah blah, rant rant. That's another advantage to this board. Its a chance to chit-chat with someone about the hobby. As I said, I'm married and mostly have kept all this to myself, I wouldn't even let any of my closest male friends know about this. That psychological seclusion seemed to make me a little more paranoid and skittish with my hobbying. Also more compulsive... I'd tell myself I'm going to quit, then I'd go overboard, etc.

It was like a big weight was lifted off my shoulders when I discovered this board and a couple of local ones. A chance to just converse about this has improved my ability to hobby wisely. In 2-3 short years I made more sudden improvement than I had gradually made in the first 15 years.

And a couple of years ago I told two very close guy friends, and we've gone hobbying together on a few occasions. My hobbying experiences have improved immensely on every level. I hardly ever have a disappointing session, I always get much more bang for my buck, I know when to cut my losses and walk away, I don't get so bitterly disappointed if a session fails for some reason, etc etc.

OK I feel better. Rant over.

Boxcc
06-25-04, 14:28
Realfun, you make very excellent points. My point was basically my own personal observations of AMPs. They are almost all set up the same way with the same rituals involved. But, like you said, YMMV with every experience in an AMP. The more experience you gain, the better equiped you are to handle any situation that arises in an AMP or any other mongering situation for that matter.

That's another reason why this forum is so good. It gives guys like us who have lived through this and experienced it all first-hand a chance to share their knowledges with others. I would have loved to have had access to a forum like this when I was first starting out.

I also agree with you totally about feeling very alone in this hobby, or at least before I got on here and made a lot of good friends that do the same thing. Before I found WSG, I felt the same as you, isolated even ashamed sometimes. I felt that I just couldn't discuss this hobby with anybody. I too went through the phase where I told myself that I was going to quit, only to come back with a vengance. Now that I know that others do it too, I don't feel that 'psychological seclusion' that you described so well any more.

As far as AMPs go, typically you pay your house fee to get the massage then you negotiate with the girl for what you want to get. You have to do the "cop check" so that the girl knows that you are not LE. Usually rolling over with a hard-on does the trick on that score!

But, you will run across a place that does not offer fs at all. They are basically a jack-shack and will include a HJ with the massage or a small tip may get you the same result. I agree with RealFun that you must understand exactly what you are getting with your money before you give it up.

Just like in everything else, you have good people and bad people. Some girls give a true GFE for very little, some try to separate as much money from you as possible while giving hardly anything in return. You have to go with the flow and be prepared.

Escorts, independents and sw's are for another discussion, but I usually feel safer at an AMP than with any other mongering situation. It is a more controlled, safer environment. Once you are sure the girl is not a cop, and they are sure you are not one either, then it usually is the safest way to get sex for money. - just an opinion!

Wooly1
06-30-04, 08:39
Do you really have to worry about a girl at an AMP being a cop? I mean, I dont see why a business would be set up purely for stings, and if it was then it wouldnt last long

Boxcc
07-01-04, 14:06
Wooly, I wouldn't worry too much about stings in an AMP. First of all, there are not too many beautiful asian cops that would go into one of these places to set up a sting, especially in small states like South Carolina.

Your first clue that a sting is in progress at an AMP is that the asian girl you were expecting turns out to be American!

If a sting is in progress, they will go in and bust the asian ladies first, then try to set up their own people to bust us as we come in. This does not usually work too well. The only people that get busted are idiots or newbies that just don't know any better.

Experienced mongers should sniff out a sting at an AMP very quickly. I visit all of the AMPs in my area about once a month or so for variety, and to see what is going on in my neighborhood. If the girls are relaxed, then you can bet that LE has been fairly quiet. If they act nervous, don't want to discuss things or make you make the first move to get 'additional' services, you can bet that the cops have tried to get someone in to bust them recently. Or, in the case of one spa in Anderson County South Carolina, if they get mentioned on this board they get very, very nervous.

But, if you visit an AMP, you should have a girl that speaks with very heavily accented English. You should be able to tell if she is genuine or not.

That's the main reason that I don't like visiting American MPs, it is easier to get busted in a sting because you can't tell by looking at the girls if they are cops or not. Then there is the fact that American girls think that their pussies are worth a hell of a lot more than anyone else's, so they charge outrageous prices for as little as possible.

Star Dreamer
07-01-04, 20:46
Boxcc,

I wish I had the time/money/stamina to check out all of the AMPs here in the Washington, D.C./Northern Virginia where I live! There simply are a lot to choose from, from those that are "rub and tug" only "jack shacks" to those that provide FS.

The WSG Forum has been a tremendous asset to filter out the real AMP values from the places that don't provide a complete menu or a good value of service for money spent. The virtual, borderless community of the Forum is a great way for newbies to learn and as you said to escape the "psychological seclusion" that many experience. As a married guy myself, the info I get from reports of other mongers definitely helps me get "more bang for the buck" in the limited time I have to devote to the hobby.

In their working environment, while the girls will always look out for themselves first, the surveillance and double door entry systems in a well designed AMP are great defensive measures that also can protect you against unexpected LE visits. in a well designed AMP, you'll probably have enough time to grab a towel or get your pants on before LE gains entry to the AMP. If LE is something you're really concerned about, you need to consider not only the girls and reputation of the AMP, but it's location and physical layout.

There currently seems to be a more active LE posture here in Northern Virginia. At least two AMPs that we know of have had recent LE "visits" and another has a lot more frequent uniformed LE "patrols" in their area.

It's becoming more readily apparent that in order to protect the AMPs, we may need to practice some discretion in specific locales as to how much detail we provide in our posts. While it's probably true that any local LE officer with an IQ bigger than his shoe size knows what goes on at AMPs in his jurisdiction without reading the posts on the Forum, we don't need to make their jobs of harassing/closing AMPs easier, either.

It will be a detriment to helping newbies and fellow hobbyists if we need to resort to PMs to share the important details of specific AMPs and providers, but short of not reporting anything, there are currently few viable alternatives.

With all the more serious violent crime, potential terrorism, deadly illegal drug activity, etc. out there, all that AMP "crackdowns" will do is score political points for a few elected officials and LE leaders.

I'm not worried at all about a sting at an AMP with any reputation at all with quality reports about it on the Forum--if there are any American girls or Asians with flawless English working at an AMP, I know it's time to walk out immediately. There are a few MPs that are staffed with South Americans and occasionally European girls, but they frequently are a "hit or miss" proposition. If an American girl working in an MP isn't LE, she's probably out to rip you off by charging too much money for too little service.

Star Dreamer
07-08-04, 10:40
A MEDICAL BENEFIT OF AMPS

I had been inactive in the hobby for a while until about 5 months ago. Several years ago (in my late 30s), I developed high blood pressure. Not too serious, but my physician prescribed beta blocker medication and told me to watch my diet and to try and get more exercise.

I'm not overweight and although I don't live in a gym, I'm in pretty good shape for a guy over 40 (most people think I look younger).

I used to think that "oriental relaxation therapy" and similiar descriptors were only euphemisms for the special extra services provided by AMPs. I know that's still true to a certain extent, but my fairly regular visits to AMPs recently (typically a few times a month, sometimes more) have accomplished what nothing else has--got my blood pressure back to the normal range.

My physician had me stop the beta blocker medication for a while and indeed my blood pressure remained in the normal range. He doesn't know about my AMP hobby, but he told me to "keep doing what I'm doing." While that's not a direct doctor's order or prescription to frequent AMPs, I can't account for any other lifestyle changes that would account for the drop in my blood pressure as I still work in a stressful job.

This may not mean much to you younger guys in the hobby, but as the aging process takes its natural course, the relaxing sauna, TS, and backrubs, while precursors to the main event of an AMP visit, may have secondary benefits you'll come to appreciate later.

Of course, not all AMP girls are formally trained in massage skills, but it's really great when you can find some that can give you not only good FS, but a good relaxing TS and "accupressure" and "reflexology" massage as well that indeed leaves you refreshed, relaxed, and reinvigorated when you walk out he door.

My purpose in this report is not to rationalize or justify my AMP visits but to illustrate an unexpected bonus benefit of my AMP experience.

Boxcc
07-13-04, 13:44
Spyguy, I'm also pushing 40 with high blood pressure. Fortunately, my BP is not high enough that I require a beta blocker, but I have started to include cardiovascular work with my normal weight lifting and things are looking up.

I agree with you that the trip to AMPs is very therapuetic and relaxing and can do much to lower your BP. Anything that relieves stress is helpful!

My question to you sir is about the beta blockers that you had to take. I was very concerned about them and talked to my doctor about them. My worry was that I always heard that beta blockers can affect you sexually and inhibit the lead from filling your pencil, so to speak. Did you experience any problems along those lines? Obviously, you continued to visit AMPs so it doesn't appear that you did have problems. I was just curious how they effected you, if they did at all.

Like I said, my BP had come down and I may be able to stop my meds soon if it keeps going this way. But, I have a history of High BP in my family, so I think it is only a matter of time before I have to go that route.

But, I will use your prescription of a healthy dose of AMP visits, just to be safe! <grin>

USTraveller
07-18-04, 03:27
I haven't been to an AMP for a while due to lack of funds. And I can tell I'm getting cranky. I guess in reading the recent posts about the house benifits, I may be able to afford the house fee and just get an hour massage in order to relax. I'll have to be sure to only take in the house fee so I'm not tempted to get extras.

This leads me to a general question as I've always gone to the AMP for the massage AND the extras. Do the girls get upset if you don't go for extras? What if little willy is awake during the flip and you just want the massage to continue? My fear is that they may think I'm a cop and if I come back later for extras, I won't be able to get them.

Boxcc
07-18-04, 14:20
US Traveller, if you do the flip and little willie is awake, then give her an extra 20 for a nice HJ. It doesn't cost that much more and the relaxation that comes from the 'extra' attention is well worth it.

Besides, if you do that, they definitely can't mistake you for a cop! lol. Remember, you don't always have to pay for fs at an AMP, but tipping is the only way that the girl makes money. The 'house' fee is just that, it is for the house, the girl gets none of that money. They only way she gets paid is for her to get you to tip. And, 20 isn't very much for a nice HJ, that way everyone is happy!

Star Dreamer
07-21-04, 10:17
I want to share with you a couple simple, inexpensive, and very useful things I use to enhance my AMP experiences.

First, I always carry a CoolMint Listerine PocketPak with me. If you haven't used them before, they're great. An AMP girl that's any good at all will offer you mouthwash after DATY, DFK, etc. but the PocketPak contains 24 breath freshener strips that dissolve on your tongue that you can easily use BEFORE you enter an AMP. The girls will appreciate you more if you arrive with clean breath, especially since it's customary for me to greet my favorite AMP girl at the door with a hug and a kiss. I find the PocketPaks more compact and effective than the pocket breath sprays I've tried.

Second, I found the Savex brand of medicated lip balm to be the most effective at treating dry, chapped lips, cold sores, and fever blisters. You can get them for about $1.19 a stick retail. After working all day in a heated or air conditioned office, your lips can dry out. Having moist, healthy lips will enhance whatever oral contact you have with the AMP girls, either kissing or more.

VilunyaChert
07-24-04, 17:26
I posted a question in a local forum, but it may be of more general interest.

http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showthread.php?s=&postid=257068

Question is: anyone here ever had a chance to give a table shower to the masseuse at an AMP?

Pimp Hound
07-30-04, 11:09
In my many experiences with amps, I found the best way for me to get my massage and fs too is usually I have her to massage my back medium touch. But from the waist down the light touch .And if she is fairly new or young I will show her the technique. The light touch get my juices going and after the flip over , its magic. Most amps {viets} 99.9 per cent have super soft silky hands and the light touch massage really set the rest of the massage off. Most of the young girls are very exploratory with their hands and the rest comes natural. Meaning a very good hj.Orange County, California has many amps with many of the girls are school girls. Good times for all.

Trouble Man
07-31-04, 06:21
Hey married guys. I have a question, when visiting an AMP, do you leave the ring on, or remove it? it's always a stress point for me... don't know why.

J Boy
07-31-04, 17:05
Trouble man
The girls really don't care. They know a good share of their clients are married. I wouldn't worry about it.

Pussy Luvr
07-31-04, 23:19
Trouble Man,

Like J Boy says, when it comes to doing business they aren't going to care if you are married or not. However if you ever think that you might have an "outside" encounter with one of them, it might be better not to reveal your true status. I've always been fairly open and truthful with girls in the past. I figured that since they are with twenty or so guys a day, what would they care if I have a wife that gives me a mercy f*uck every two months. It's been a mistake though and it has kept me from closing the deal. One girl gave me her number and even though we talk occasionally, she is afraid of "my jealous wife" going after her.

I'm now going to stay with the "seperated but the kid lives with me" routine. That makes it easier to explain away my reluctance to take her home with me but reduces some of her fears about seeing me. And while you may never care to see most of the girls on the outside, they do talk to each other. What one knows, they all know.

PussyLuvr

Star Dreamer
08-02-04, 10:26
Trouble Man,

Your question on whether or not to remove the wedding ring has practical and philosophical elements to the answer I suggest.

From a practical perspective, my wife and I both have always removed our wedding and other rings for a variety of reasons, such as when swimming, sleeping, working in the yard, and even during the very occasional sex we have (there's someting about being caressed when your partner doesn't have metal or the hardest known substance on their fingers). At AMPs, part of the delight I get is the reflexology massage, which includes the girl stretching each one of your fingers. I also don't want to ever take the chance of forgeting or losing a ring at an AMP so I take both my wedding and college ring off and leave them locked in my car (along with my wallet).

From a philosophical perspective, it has been the custom in many Asian cultures since ancient times to have a primary spouse (i.e. wife) to sire kids, take care of the home, be a confidante, etc. and have lovers on the side for sexual gratification. Although "globalization" and the introduction of western values into Asia is diminishing this aspect somewhat, the reason you have so many "Asian" MPs in the U.S. as well as in most Asian nations is that there is much less of a stigma of seeking sexual gratification outside of marriage in Asian cultures. In fact, prostitution was only outlawed in Japan during the U.S. occupation after WW II. Even when it was outlawed, it only used to be an offense for the woman, not the man. Unfortunately, you'll find most Americanized Asian women have quickly adopted the values of western women, however.

I'd bet a fair percentage of AMP patrons are married men. I've only had one AMP girl, who I've been seeing on a fairly regular basis at my favorite AMP, ask me if I was married, and I answered her truthfully that I am. Since there's only a very limited scenario and circumstances where I'd even consider seeing an AMP girl I know outside the AMP, not wearing your wedding ring there shouldn't be a big deal for you or the girls. I guess the girls figure that if you were single and looking for a long term relationship that might lead to marriage, an AMP is not the place most guys start their search.

Boxcc
08-03-04, 16:09
Touble man, I have to agree with Spy Guy, there are a lot of practical and philosophical elements to consider. For me, call me an old softy, but I just don't like cheating on my wife while I am wearing the ring. I, like Spy Guy, lock it up in my car for safe keeping with my wallet. I don't want to lose it or forget it.

So, you see, it is really up to you. I also agree with the other points made here about telling them if you are married or not. I don't think it matters one way or the other. All they care about is if you have enough money! As Pussy Luvr points out, the only time that it matters is if you are going to see the girl out of the AMP. So, again, it is up to you!

Rock the Room
08-04-04, 04:27
IMHO, some MP girls might not give you a happy ending ( even a HJ) if they know you are married. They are semi-legit and don't want to risk losing their job.

Another thing a girl told me that she had a customer that looked to be about 80 years old. He came in for a massage and asked for extras. She declined, figuring that he might have a heart attack in the middle of the deed.

Boxcc
08-04-04, 14:25
BTW, Spy Guy, congrats on the Senior Member status, you deserve it!

Triple E
08-04-04, 22:46
Regarding letting AMP providers know if you're married or not, I have a feeling they usually suspect it by default.

I'm completely single, yet whenever I get this question in an AMP (fairly often, oddly enough), the girls usually seem surprised. Admittedly, I'm sure some of this is the usual fake "How could such a great guy like you be single?" fantasy part of the service, but there seems to be some real surprise beyond that. Probably a good indication that most of the clientele either admit being married, or simply forget the ring.

Fluffy One
08-06-04, 01:22
With over 35 years in the hobby, trust me, the girl does not care if you are married or not. She's in it for the money. I would guess that most of her customer's are married. By knowing you are married, she'll make sure she doesn't scratch you or leave any other marks, stray hairs, etc. Sometimes they don't ask if you are married but instead ask how old your kids are or something like that.

In most AMP's, happy endings are available unless they think you're LE. I'm not 80 yet, if I'm still in the game by then, I'll let you know if I get turned down.

To be sure it doesn't end up lost, I don't wear my ring.

Star Dreamer
08-06-04, 10:54
Box,

Thanks for the kind words. I'm really glad I found the WSG.

I had another great (and unusual) AMP experience this past weekend. Unlike my normal practice of phoning ahead, I went to an AMP to see a girl I hadn't seen for months. I've had 3 previous sessions with her before. Both girls who were working there knew me and after buzzing the doorbell, I could hear them talking in Korean, probably debating which girl would take me. They were just in the process of opening.

The girl I really liked greeted me at the door and told me that my usual provider is still on vacation. I told her I know that, but I wanted to see her. She seemed really happy to hear that. Received a warm welcome like she was greeting a dear friend she hadn't seen in a while and after the TS, she sent me to the sauna to dry off a bit.

At this AMP, the girls usually go to their own private shower to prepare for customers, but this time she showered in the TS room and left the curtain open so I could watch her through the window in the sauna door. Feeling like a voyeur and really getting turned on, I opened the door and waved at her.

When she finished and dried off, she came and got me from the sauna, took me back to the massage room, and skipped the massage and went right into the main event. Like most AMP girls I know, she didn't offer DFK, but she did offer BBBJ, 69, kissing and sucking her nice, large (natural) rack, and I climbed aboard for mish.

She doesn't seem to like other positions but she really gets into mish and if she's acting, it's almost impossible to tell. Since I went on a weekend morning, there were no other customers there so there was no rush, just taking my time enjoying the mish to a very happy ending. Would have been a full GFE with more positions, but she has a really great attitude.

Afterwards, she cleaned me up and gave me a great massage and I mentioned a few trivial details about her that I remembered that she had told me, like her real Korean first name and where she lived in our area. She really seemed happy that I'd remember so much about her.

After helping me get dressed, here's the unusual part. Due to a recent LE crackdown in our area, the girls have always asked me to dispose of my used cover off-premises. This time, she put it in the garbage and as I was leaving, she walked out with me to the parking lot. After tossing the trash bag in the dumpster, she came back and gently nibbled on my ear in the parking lot before I left. A truly remarkable end to a great visit.

Boxcc
08-06-04, 19:40
Fluffy, when you get to 80 and you still want to go to AMPs you definitely need to come back to this forum and share your secret!!! lol. I agree with you though, those girls could care less if you are married or not. In fact, I think they prefer to deal with married men, because they know that married men will not want to attract any attention to themselves. They are usually more quiet and reserved and won't usually cause any problems for the girls.

And, if you are married, the girls realize that you are there for a reason, you aren't getting enough at home. So, they figure for a minimal amount of effort they can get you to come back to them time and time again. They get rich off of us old married guys!!!

Spy Guy, I gotta come up there and visit you. I would love to visit the AMPs in your area and get that good a service!!! Damn, you are a lucky man. Although, I would make the girl get into doggie style, that is the box-man's preferred method of ejaculation!

There is nothing like holding a slim-little asian ass while you fuck the shit out of them!!!!

CBR Boy
08-11-04, 01:05
need help with the amp scene.

hey all, i am still new to this whole amp scene, i've been several times only to leave wishing that i spent my money at on a real therapist. i have also tried several different locations.

are there any special steps i need to take when i get there?

do i need to pay more up front?

do i need to shower first if they ask?

should i just grab something during the session?

etc?

any tips will be greatly appreciated.

pm if you like.

Boxcc
08-12-04, 16:16
CBR Boy,

First of all, calm down! I think you might be pressing too hard. By that I mean you may be too nervous or nervous acting when you first go in. They may think you are a cop if you act too nervous or if you act as if you have never been there before.

That, I think, is the key. You have to act as if you have been there before, even if you haven't been. You have to remain calm, cool and collected.

They usually want eveyone to take a table shower (TS) prior to receiving any services. They do this for a couple of reasons. First, to make sure that you are clean. Hygiene is very important to these girls. They don't want to work on anyone that stinks. Second, they want to check out your body for any signs of STDs or other unpleasant things. So, when they offer you a shower, you must take it. Otherwise, you risk not getting the service that you desire.

Also, I find that the friendlier you are to them the friendlier they are to you. So, be nice. Be playful. If they rub something nice, moan a little tell them you like that. They want you to enjoy yourself, so don't be afraid to show that you are enjoying yourself. If you just so happen to rub her ass or other part of her body, it does tend to show them that you are looking for more. Now, don't go up her skirt right away. Just rub her ass through her clothes. And, do it in a soft, gentle way.

Then when it is time to turn over she'll start rubbing your cock and balls trying to get them to full attention. (If they aren't there already.) At this point, they may ask if you are interested in more, or they may not. That will depend on how comfortable they are with you. Get up, dip into your pants pocket, pull out $100 and see where that gets you. She will take it. You probably can get FS for that, but she may ask for more. It is okay to bargain, but again, be nice. If you are a dick to her, don't expect her to absolutely rock your world when she decides to give you FS.

I hope this helped. If you didn't get anything else out of these tips, get this one important thing. Always take the TS when it is offered. If you don't, nothing else will be offered later.

Pussy Luvr
08-12-04, 21:37
CBR Boy,

What Boxcc offers is good advice but there are regional differences. Table showers are one thing. They seem common on the east coast but rare in So. Calif. Between the two areas that I frequent, there are probably over thirty AMPs and I've have only heard mention of one that has a TS. The others are just DIY shower stalls. It is still recommended that you take the shower for two reasons. One, they prefer you to be fresh and clean but also they may be less likely to suspect you of being LE if you are willing to leave your belongings in the massage room. The worst thing about a DIY shower is that you may have to ask where it is. It makes it harder to convince them that you've been there before. I suppose you could ask like this, "I didn't have a shower last time, could you please show me where it is?"

Another regional difference is how requests for services and money is handled. Where I'm at, you rarely even have to discuss the tip in advance. You can subtly imply what you are after by brushing your hand against her leg and then massaging her calf. As long as there are no negative reactions, just slowly move your hand up her leg. At some point she may ask what you want or you might just naturally progress all the way to FS with no discussion. Around here the standard tip is about $40 - $60. Sometimes a girl gets agressive about price or money up front. I will not put up with it anymore. One time I told the girl she was wasting my time and to go get the mamasan. The girl came back a couple of minutes later with a much more agreeable attitude. I gave her my standard tip which was probably $40 below what she had at first demanded and she smiled, took it and repeated here name a couple of times so I would be sure to remember to ask for her. I've also just put on my clothes and left before. The mamasan met me in the hall and gave me my money back. Now I wouldn't recommend trying this the first time in a place or until you have a little more experience under your belt but remember that the customer is king.

In some other regions, you may not talk about money directly but you are expected to have you're tip money sitting out where the girl can see it. Then in other areas it is strictly cash in advance or at the very least, you may have to agree to an amount. Remember that before the fact, the girl has all the bargaining power. These are usually the places where the tips are $100 - $200. After the fact, you have the power. Don't abuse it but don't let yourself get ripped off.

One tip that applies anywhere is to learn in advance the names of girls that work or that have worked in the past year or two at the place you are going. You can say that you saw so-and-so a few of months ago or you can request a specific girl by name. You can also use it as a bargaining chip, "So-and-so only charged me $xx" or "So-and-so would do that with me." Don't get too outlandish though, these girls do talk to each other. Also, when you are in the room, get naked and stay that way. Don't cover yourself with a towel and object if the girl tries to cover you. Say that you are "hot" or something. That reminds me of a time a girl covered me with a towel and I threw across the room a couple of times. She finally made it clear that it was only while she left to get a condom.

Do your research here on WSG. Read all the past posts from your region. Become familiar with the places, girls, local customs and rates. There are some places that just offer massage with no extras are on the plate. So make sure you go to the right places. Sometimes you have have to go in cold though and you need to be a little more careful. Be confident, comfortable and friendly. You don't have to talk much, they probably wouldn't understand you anyway. Treat the girls well. I have had almost 100 AMP visits and I have only been turned down once for FS. I had to settle for a BJ/HJ. Good luck and have fun.

Pussy Luvr

Dinger
08-13-04, 01:04
Ok experienced AMP patrons, I've got another question for you. As a semi-regular AMP person myself, I'm very comfortable getting what I want, I have a few favorite girls I see, and feel comfortable in one or two AMPs that I go to most often.

However, I've got a hankering to try something a little different. I'm interested in a two-girl massage with extras. Has anybody else tried that in an AMP before? I don't want to offend anybody or upset that apple cart in my normal haunts, but I think it could be a very fun experience.

What do you think?

Dinger

Boxcc
08-13-04, 13:58
Pussy Luvr, you make a good point about regional differences. I have been to AMPs mainly on the East Coast, Pennsylvania, Virginia, North and South Carolina and even one in Florida.

To me, they were all set up pretty much the same. They have the little entry lobby to pre-screen you even before they talk to you, then you pay the house fee up front. I have never negotiated price up front. It has been my experience that the girls want to size you up first to make sure that you are not a cop before they will discuss anything with you. I have found that, in most cases, money was never discussed openly until after I handed her my tip. In a lot of cases, they don't even ask if you want anything 'extra' because that could be contrued as an offer of prostitution.

Now, as far as a DIY shower versus a Table Shower: I have only been to places where they give you the shower as part of the massage. Like I said in an earlier post, they are making sure that you are clean and disease free, or at least you appear that way. I never thought about what you suggested about wanting to see if you are willing to leave your belongings in the massage room while you are off to get a shower. But, I have to agree with you on that assessment.

After that is all said and done, you get to the point where you are going to tip her for 'extra' services. Personally, I don't like to discuss money out in the open. I would rather just get up, get the tip and hand it to her. I don't like leaving it lying around. I want to hand it directly to her. Doing it this way does 2 things: 1. It say very plainly to the girl that you want more than just a massages, and 2. It leaves you an out if you have to take it. What I mean is, if you hand her the cash, she will know what it is for, and usually she will provide it. Notice, there was absolutely no conversation about sex whatsoever, so you were not giving her money for sex. If it is a sting, and you hand her money without ever talking about sex, you can say that you were just giving the girl a tip for the 'great' massage you just received. You would at least have a leg to stand on if you got a lawyer to fight it out in court.

Anyway, if you hand the girl the tip and it is acceptable, she will go about her business. If the tip is not acceptable, then she will argue with you a little bit, but I have only had that happen twice. In both cases, it was younger providers at an AMP in Greenville and they thought that their shit was worth a premium. It was good, but not worth the extra money that they were asking for. I did what you talked about in your post, I asked for the mamasan and told her that I wanted a different girl, the mamasan said something in Korean to the girl and she immediately obeyed and took care of business. From then on, when I went back, I would ask for a different girl. The mamasan always remembered me from then on too, and she would say something to the high priced girl every time she was there too! It was great.

Anyway, CBR, I hoped that this helped. I would be interested to hear what Spy Guy had to say about this too.

Pussy Luvr
08-14-04, 06:40
Boxcc,

Sorry, I guess that I wasn't clear on the "up front" part. The first part is about like you say. They pre-screen you at the lobby before you get past the locked inner door, you pay for a message session only, etc. You don't talk about extras. What I meant by "up front" was that once you are alone with the girl and perhaps had gone through a few of the preliminaries. Then she would ask for however much she wanted before any action would take place. At the very least she would want a verbal agreement from you on the amount.

What I mean by "after the fact" is when there is never _any_ discussion about money, either expessed or implied by either party before you receive your "services." Then, as you are on the way out of the room, you politely tip her for the "nice massage." On rare occasions, she might complain but usually she just smiles and thanks you. With a new girl, I generally watch her face out of the corner of my eye as I slowly pull one twenty at a time out of my wallet. You can usually see by the change in their expression when they are at least satisfied, if not exactly happy. Around here, that usually seems to come at the third twenty. When a girl has been especially good, I have sometimes even asked her, "Is that all right?" Surprisingly, the ones that I have asked have never requested more. Now I do tend to treat the girls very well and show them respect, so that may help.

It doesn't always go smoothly though. One time I convinced an "up front" type girl to wait, that I would take care of her as well as she took care of me later. She had been insisting on $100. She said that wass what everybody paid her that. Right, maybe if they were drunk, blind and with an IQ somewhere below Forrest Gump. She looked much better before she took her clothes off. At first she wouldn't do DATY, then she changed her mind. Then I think she offered only one position. After it was over, I very generously gave her my typical $60 tip. She was furious. She even said that I should pay her extra because I made _her_ cum during DATY. Well excuse me but I condsider that a bonus for her. Then she kept going on and on for close to five minutes about how she was only doing this to feed her four kids and how I could afford it, etc. Was I ever sorry that I'd given her that much! I thought I was never going to escape this b*tch. The mamasan usually gives me an "exit interview." Unfortunately, she wasn't around when I left. I had a few choice words about this girl for her. It was after her that I decided no more "up front" girls without at least sending them back to the mamasan for a recalibration.

The point that people make about leaving money visible is that it sends a message to the girl that there may be more in it for her. She is not supposed to just take it without your permission. If she asks about it or tries to take, say that you only have it out in case you want to leave a tip later. If she then offers services to you, you might let her go ahead and take it. I don't like this approach either. I disagree that either this or giving her giving her a tip in advance, as you suggest, gives much of an "out." I try to avoid anything to do with money unless she explicitly offers services and even then I will try to avoid it.

From a legal standpoint, it would seem to me that you have the stongest argument if you just go in and the two of you spontaneously decide to have sex, with no discussion of "services" or money changing hands. You're just a man and woman acting on a mutual attraction for one another. If you happen to tip her for that "nice massage" as you leave, that has nothing to do with the sex. The girls and the mamasan are safer that way too. Unfortunately, that doesn't work everywhere. Mainly because the girls get a little too greedy.

Pussy Luvr

Pussy Luvr
08-14-04, 06:51
Dinger,

I've never tried it myself but I have heard of several instances. There is even one place around here with a name like "Fours Hands Massage" or something. You are still going to have to tip both girls seperately. No quantity discount. Don't expect any girl-on-girl action. Basically, you'll probably just get to do them one then the other, with a a change in raincoats and possibly a washdown. I don't know if this is what you were wanting to hear but I've heard this several times.

Pussy Luver

Boxcc
08-17-04, 21:46
Dinger, I agree with Pussy Luvr, I think you can find that, you will just have to pay for two instead of one. And, I also agree that you probably would have to change raincoats.

I don't know about you, but when I'm in the middle of strokin' that thing, I definitely don't want to have to stop to re-wrap it!

I know that there is a place here in South Carolina that you can get the girls to do a duet then you can take your pick, but it isn't an AMP.

Scrodie
08-20-04, 07:49
Good advice in these posts. I've been frequenting MPs (A and a few non-A) for several years. They're the coolest establishments around IMO. Where else can you go, get treated like an emperor for an hour or so, and then have a great release at the end.

I've lived in several states and have been to MPs in a dozen states or so. I started off naive like a couple of earlier posters, and the first couple of times didn't know what to expect or how to act. I had a bad experience in one in Biloxi, Mississippi where the girl managed to part me from $300 or so and I only got a HJ. Most of the time, I have had a very good time. I usually really like the massage in addition to what follows. The only place I received FS is New Orleans, though I have heard they had a major crackdown and all the good establishments there (on Chef Hwy) are history. I usually am happy with a BJ or HJ, done properly, at the end. One of my only complaints with AMPs in general is that some of the masseuses grip way too hard.

To me, the table shower, the actual massage and the finish are all critical parts of the MP experience. The ultimate MP experience for me would be as follows: It would start off with a table shower with special attention to the butt and boys. After she dried me off, a relaxing massage, on the soft side, would follow. Gradually, she would tease the boys and butt. Just before the flip, extra attention would be paid to these areas. Then, after the flip she'd continue the massage, teasing the chest and around John Thomas. She'd finish up with either a BJ or HJ. She's clean me at the end. Insert her getting naked and me playing with her somewhere in there, and possibly a prostate massage.

I think my favorite AMP of all time would have to be in Pascagoula, Mississippi of all places. The ladies there knew how to please a guy. The "erotic massage" focused both on the "erotic" and the "massage". It also was reasonably priced.

I now live in Las Vegas and have been disappointed overall with the AMPs here, though many have opened up since I moved here. At the first one I went to here, the lady had bad body odor. It took several visits to various ones to find one that offered a table shower. One I've been to sometimes offers extras and sometimes doesn't. Most of the masseuses at Las Vegas AMPs dress down. I have found a couple of good newer ones, though. There is also a non-Asian MP which has very attractive girls. It's kind of expensive, but offers FS. The thrill is in the hunt, I guess.

Long live MPs!

Arch West
10-04-04, 16:32
Wow, has everyone forgot this board? There was good information here but nothing posted in a couple months. I'll add my two cents, maybe that will get things going again.

I have tried several AMP's in Las Vegas. Most of the AMP's on Sahara are mediocare and I have never been successful negotiating FS. My favorite, if you can call it that, is Hon Yung. I believe that is the name. It's in a small strip mall layed out in a semi-circle. It's very close to a Dodge dealership.

Jade Garden on Cheyenne is fairly new and in the evening some very attractive asian ladies begin working. Don't bother with daytime. Has anyone had any success at FS with AMP's in Las Vegas? I have read something about VIP, but I don't know exactly where that's located.
Maybe this will get things going.

ChefDog
10-08-04, 22:54
Scrodie reports:

"The only place I received FS is New Orleans, though I have heard they had a major crackdown and all the good establishments there (on Chef Hwy) are history."

There are three places currently twitching on CM. I have gotten FS at the first (just past the bowling alley), have looked into the one in the strip mall and the one way out past the interstate bypass to Chalmette. They didn't tempt me. And the FS in the first, while cheap (total $80), was not any fun.

Chef

Jon Jones
10-09-04, 00:44
cbr boy

i canít add much to the previous recommendations. iím fairly new to the hobby myself. i have never visited an establishment that didnít have favorable reviews on this board. this board is a tremendous resource in determining what services might be available. (thanks again jackson!)

check out what the lady is wearing. iím not looking for fs, but i do appreciate the beauty of the female body. if sheís wearing heavy leviís, a blouse that has a dozen buttons and shoes that need to be untied, i figure iím probably not getting much more than a massage and maybe a hj. however, if sheís wearing a loose dress and sandals my hands go exploring.

while iím in my 50ís, iíve been told i have a le look. to counter this, i try to be standing or sitting on the edge of the table, completely nude with my dick semi-hard, when the lady comes in. most cops wonít go this far. the fact iím exposed seems to put some girls at ease that iím not a cop.

on a first visit i usually leave a few 20s in sight next to my wallet but i never mention payment for additional services. in the end, no extra service, no tip. but when the service is good i like to slightly over tip. most girls have good memories.

treat the ladies with respect. while most make good money, it can be a dangerous profession. one provider i know was beaten and raped last year. the amp owners didnít feel they could call the police.

let us know how youíre doing. have the tips helped?

Arch West
10-11-04, 17:14
Thanks for the post, JJ and Scrodie. I have a couple questions, though. Are both of your experiences with AMP's in the Big Easy? Have either of you tried Las Vegas AMP's? If so, what has been your experience?

If you PM me, I'll give you digits for a private provider in Las Vegas. Again, no FS. But she'll give you a great nude, sensual massage with "release" for buck and a half.

I too want to add my thanks to Jackson. Great board, good info and great price! We need the equivilant in a provider! Of course I'm from a place where they cover GQ in the 7-11 to reduce the corruption of our young. So any kind of provider would be good!

T Birdy
10-11-04, 19:17
Hello guys,

Thought I'd put in my two cents here from Indianapolis. I have multiple posts of detailed "massage" encounters here in the circle city - some more successful than others. But if you read them, you can learn something from every experience (As I have).

In general, I've found that going right for the respectful finger dance up her leg will take all the mystery out of your experience. More than leaving money in site or cryptic hand motions, you'll know in a hurry what's up. Some here will not discuss anything with you untill you touch them between the legs!

They're used to it and you will not be insulting them. If you are upfront, straight and respectful of them, you'll both have a better time. Also, I always respect their wishes as to what they will or will not do. I do not push, but rather enjoy the experience. At any rate, you may even get a good massage out of it!

T Birdy

Scrodie
10-16-04, 09:36
I've been to a several AMPs in Las Vegas. Most only do HJ. The only one that I've been offered FS is VIP Massage (corner Valley View and Sirius, near Jaguar's). VIP is really a "non-A" MP, as they seem to have more non-Asians working there than Asians. The upsell is $100, $150 and $200, for nude HJ, CBJ and FS respectively. The girls I've seen there are quite hot. I wish they offered table showers though.

I've been to Jade Garden once and had a very good experience. It was one of the few AMPs here where the masseuse went right for my member without the requisite negotiations (I tipped her at the end). A guy recently reported a not-so-good experience there on the Las Vegas forums, YMMV as always. The other places I like in Las Vegas are Ocean Spa and Rainbow Spa, for different reasons. Ocean Spa has the best "treat you like an emperor" feel and Rainbow has very good massages, though they don't always offer extras. I tried to go to Hon Yun one night, but they were closed for some reason. I've had mixed luck at the places on West Sahara, and generally good luck with the places on Paradise near the Stratosphere, though they seem pricey and cater to tourists. Sunset (Pecos, north of Sunset) is quite good, though can also be pricey. Again, none of these places typically do anything beyond a HJ, except for VIP. Las Vegas is notorious for little "bang for the buck" at AMPs.

I haven't been to the New Orleans AMPs in ten years or so. My favorite was in a kind of run-down strip mall next to an urban bar that always had an NOPD cop working the door. They often went into FS without even asking. After the table shower and a brief massage, she'd put on the helmet and hop on. I'm glad there are three places still operating. I had heard that NOPD really cracked down and shut them all down. Apparently, they had solved all the serious crime problems in The City That Care Forgot and shifted their attention to AMPs.

Arch West, I'll pm you about that masseuse.

Connaisseur
10-20-04, 18:04
Hailing from AMP-paradise Maryland, the posts on this board inspired me to suggest a survey/competition with the goal to find the "Best AMP in the country" or the "Best AMP experience ever", as mileage tends to vary within one and the same AMP.

Many of us get to travel throughout the country and could possibly contribute their most memorable experience in their AMP-mongering career.

I will dig in my own AMP-memory archive and add my 2 cents shortly...

Conn.

Arch West
11-01-04, 21:00
Sounds like a good idea. I'll start. The best experience I had was in Sacramento, CA. It was several years ago, I've heard the AMP scene isn't very good there anymore. But I digress. I paid the $50.00 house fee and was directed to a room. The "hostess" asked me to get undressed and she would escort me to the "pool." I thought, "pool" what's up with that? Curiosity well in tow and followed instructions and was lead to a warm pool. Similar to what has been described to me as bath houses in other parts of the world. It felt great and I relaxed for about 5 minutes. Soon this very attractive asian lady, dressed in a silk kimono came to "gather me" and take me back to the massage room. Once on the table a rather good 20 minute massage took place. To add to the experience a warm electic blanket was strategically placed so my buddy "johnson" could bury his head into into. Felt great.

On the "flip" I was a little concerned, because no mention of "wadda you want" was uttered. I'm thinking uh-oh, not good. So I decide to let me hands wander a little over this silk kimono, working my hand up and down her leg. Next thing I know, she smiles, leans down and lightly kisses me on the lips. Never had that happen before or since. She steps back from the table and literally rips her kimono open revealing a great rack and very sexy red lingerie. Don't get me wrong, she didn't ruin her kimono. Apparently it had some kind of snap connection from top to bottom on this outfit. She steps out of her outfit, comes over and lays on top of me. With her face about two inches from mine, and as she gently rubbed herself against me, she asks me what I want. I said something really articulate like....uh,I want you!!! Masterful, huh? She giggles and gets up off me. She invites me over to the in-room shower. I wander over in full-upright salute and she asks me if I want to take her lingerie off. Again, something masterfully articulate like.....uh, yeah! It took me about 3-4 minutes to get that lingerie off as I kissed her all over, sucked on those great tits and slid my finger slightly inside her as the panties came off. The giggles turned to slight moans and we were quickly in the shower. She put on a plastic hair cover to keep her hair mostly dry. She then proceeded to give my a great body-to-body lathering. Five minutes later she was drying me off.

Back on to the massage table she mounts me with "johnson" firmly in her hads. She starts moaning and stroking me and then drops the question. "How much you give me?" I told her $100 and she didn't miss a beat. I hadn't realized she was putting a condom on me as she stroked me...(I guess I was a little pre-occupied) She says, "Oh, Baby" and slides me insides her. All I could handle was two positions, (her on top and mish) and it was pop-fini.

It seemed like longer, but it was only 70 minutes. My how time flies when you're having fun. All in all, A well-invested $150.00.

Zidaho
11-30-04, 08:55
My ex-wife is a masseuse, I used to get a kick out of the horny guys who would leave messages on her machine around midnight. Ha, ha. She is a totally straight masseuse at least these past 20 years and still straight massages a number of famous celebrities/politicians but what I respected about her is that she was such a nasty **** when we met 20 years ago, that and her titalating stories / experiences. Ddamn, that's why I married her!! Now we are just good ole (goofy) friends. I have to say though, pound for pound and for the money Thai women are the best masseuses in the world just in sheer terms of guantity, quality and cost. However, that said, I have had a few absolutely gorgeous American masseuses the past few years who have such an elegant intimacy, voice, and touch and subtle like sensuality about them that even today I remember the experience almost as though we had an intimate encounters . . . and it was beyond relaxing!! However, I like the way the Thai girls charge liike 5-$10 bucks for a massage and the way they get right down and almost wrestle. Of course many of the Thai girls use massage as just one component in their repertoire for pleasing the customer, and it's those other components which are the most pressing factors for me these days.

Travel Sales
12-02-04, 02:34
Hey guys,

For some reason there have been alot of AMP opening in our area (Biloxi Ms.) There are three or four in gulfport.One just opened called the Bamboo,the owner tells me she has three young,pretty girls working.Havent had a chance to check it out yet! Then there is three in ocean springs Ms. VIP,Stess Away and Lucky spa. The last one is my favorite, there are two Fine,Fine,Fine! girls working there now. Dee Dee has long perfect legs,very nice ass,thin,natural perky breast,and has a very clean shaven pussy.And knows how to use it!(you will fall in love with her!) The owner Tina will give you a body shampoo and sometimes starts the massage. I highly recomend the lucky spa on HWY 90 it cost me 160 for FS,CBJ,HJ.

Connaisseur
12-07-04, 23:09
Here's a thought for all of you fellow AMP lovers: we love the Asian style, and have frequented all of those Korean/Chinese/Malaysian etc. places. Now, it has come to my attention that all over Europe Indian-style massage establishments are popping up (think Tantra, Kama Sutra, etc.); I intend to check a few of thouse out on occasion, but I was wondering if any of these services have become available in our fair country. To be honest, I like the idea... Any ideas/input on that, anyone?

Kenn Jack
12-08-04, 02:26
i post mostly on the mass and ri boards, but love massage. i have had 3 experiences with "tantra", 2 from therapists and one from cindy spice of las vegas. the bad one was an asian women, lily, from washington, dc a total phoney and rip-off. the second was from rani here in boston and was mind bending. the cindy experience was the best of all and worth the price of admission by and of itself. i think it is worth experiencing and if you check the e** g**** you can find traving ladires. also if you google and use tantra you should be happy with the temple.

good luck

jack

Crazy Dick
02-17-05, 04:14
most amps are run by korean's. speeking korean will help you go a long way in an amp. i hope the following helps you get a little extra out of you amp visits.
crazy dick

"korean sex slang

po ji-----literally means, "pussy"
cha ji-------- means "dick" or "cock
u bong------- means "tits"
mo go-------- means "eat"
nae---pronounced like "nay"-----means "yes"
so, if you touch her lips with a finger, and ask "cha ji mogo?"
well, you get it!
if you say, "po ji mogo?" you just asked to eat her pussy!
flattery will get you everywhere!
i pun------the i is pronounced as an "e" and pun is is pronounced like
"puun"---- means "pretty"
yo ja---------means "girl"
so, if you say, "i pun yo ja" you would be saying "pretty girl"
ma ni---pronounced "ma nee"---means "much"
"ma ni, ma ni i pun yo ja", means "very, very pretty girl"
the word for lips is "ip" pronounced like "eep"
so, if you say, "ip, chon pa, an ju sae yo"
you are asking her to sit on your face!
cool!
ha ha
however, it is all real, and true
good luck
oh yes
"tang shin ul, sa dang hae yo"
that means, "i love you!" be careful with that one! you could end up
married, and live forever, and regret it!!!!!!"

thank you = cum sum di dah (short version excepted in korean)
your welcome = chum e nay o (make the e sound like the ah sound
and say all together rather quickly. it will take some practice.)

**this is most common word used by koreans to say thanks
kamsa-habnida = thanks

**this is inevitable question from any korean girl.

me ssal-yo= how old are you ?

just show the fingers, if u dont know korean numbers.

**if you want her to take out,this can be helpful to u.

kachhi= together

ka = go

here "yo" is used to add respect...so

(restaurent/park/..) kachhi ka yo= lets go together

if you like to tell her just to give a ring , u can use this sentence

chona =phone
chuseyo = give
chona chuseyo= call me

**
jemoseyo= having fun ?

ani(yo) = no, ney=yes

Ausse Salt
03-18-05, 08:18
Hey Mates,

Any newbie who is nervous about visitin' his first AMP, this thread gives nothin' but fair dinkum crackerjack advice for the first-timer. Read your way through the posts, pay attention, and follow the advice -- and you new joeys will be ready to 'ave a go like a tazzie tiger. Too right!

##### Salty

Ausse Salt
03-20-05, 10:17
G"day Mates, One ov me best times ever at an AMP wuz one ev'ning durin' a small snowfall (Crikey, your NorthEast gets some bugger weather!). I was on holiday from me work and stopped into the joint a wee bit before closin'. The mum led me to the room and after I wuz starkers to the table shower.

I was thinkin' this wuz me dingo nite - becaue a few months before I dropped in'round the same time and all there wuz is this chubby mum for a ho-hum CBJ (that I paid the prime doagh for). Anyhou, mum waited 'til after the decent shower and dry-off to tell old salt that she wuz the only bowler in the joint! So I wuz off me nob a bit, but went on and said "no worries, luv - we'll do the place rotten anyhou."
So I went back to the room with her, laid out the dough, and helped her out ov her togs. She 'ad a bit of a saggy bod (so-so for a house-mum), but too right, I wuz ready to paint up holly. I told mum to lay down on her chest an' I'd give her a rub, and I paid alotta attention to her backside. When I asked if she wuz a policeman - she laughed so hard she right fell off the bloomin' bed! After the flip, I teased her some more, and then went on to pork her dirty! She wuz quite into it, especally doggie -- and then before I went off, she pullled off the durex and did BBJ before tossin' me off.

We went back to TS to wash up, and she even got me devil 'ard again and gave more BBJ action and a second toss. I 'ad spent some 90 minutes with her -- no other bludgers rang up the door. On me way out, I noticed she 'ad dimmed out the lighs after me first shower. I never saw her again -- the bleedin cobbers came in a few monthes later and shut the joint down. The old mum 55 or so may be on the job at a tatshack near you!

Salty

Rubber Nursey
03-31-05, 15:40
Listen 'ere, luv...

If you don't quit butcherin' our beaut Aussie lingo, you're gonna cop a size 8 Blundie fair up yer Khyber.

Cheers mate,
From a true blue, dinky di, Aussie sheila. ;)

Tea Boy
04-23-05, 17:08
I thought I would post something different for my 100th post, when I realized that there is no mention of Tantra or Tantric massage in the Massages section. Different people will define Tantric Massage in different ways, but I will present my understanding of it with reference to a wonderful masseuse I met in Brighton, England. Her telephone number is 01273 722072.

For Tantric Massage it is essential that the masseuse has some understanding of the "energies" of the human body. These energies have not yet been identified by modern science, but have been recognized for thousands of years in India and Tibet. One feature of these energies is that the energies of the male and female are of opposite polarity and complementary. This means that intimate contact between a male and female body is fraught with possibilities which could be either positive or negative.

The experience of a Tantric Massage would be different for each individual depending on "where they are at". A good masseuse will intuitively sense what her client needs at that particular time in his life. In my sessions with Maya, I obviously stripped naked at the outset. Some masseuses keep their clothes on but Maya stripped naked as well. She is 40 years old and no beauty queen, but her body is trim and firm. She asked me lie on my face and proceeded to give me a body-to-body massage. She then began to massage me with her hands, which eventually lingered on my buttocks and between them. The response was obvious to her and she asked me to kneel up. She sat on the bed behind me and extended her legs forward between mine so that she was comfortable and she had free access to my buttocks, anus, balls, and cock. In 30 years of mongering this was the first time that a woman had massaged me in this position. I was able to watch the two of us in a mirror at our side. She gently oiled me between my buttocks. Her hands commenced a gentle stroking of all my sensitive parts. Obviously I was having a massive erection now. Her hands would stroke up and down and a finger would occasionally intrude into my anus, prompting me to thrust back at her. I had paid for 45 minutes massage but she kept me on the brink of orgasm for nearly an hour. Her finger in my anus then began stroking more urgently while her other hand gently squeezed my balls. I then decided to bring myself to a climax, and spurted a huge amount of semen which she lovingly cleaned off me.

P.S. Although the search function didn't come up with "tantra", I later realized that at least two contributors had mentioned this. Incidentally, Maya is from Georgia in the Former U.S.S.R.

Worf1972
05-15-05, 00:46
Tips for going to AMPs see below:

USTraveller
Senior Member

Here's are some tips and etiquette for you AMP/Spa Visitors looking for extras or for first time visitors. I'm one who prefers the AMPs to the other options because they seem to provide a safe and relaxing environment. I wanted to share some general information in a number of sections and decided to do it here instead as more people are likely to view it and add on. I hope this can help any newbies to AMPs or jog the memory of AMP experts to dish out some tips of their own.

1) Become a Repeat Customer - This seems to be the number one factor. The providers want to make sure you are "not a cop" and once they are comfortable that you aren't, they will more than likely provide extras.

2) Fake Being a Repeat Customer - If you haven't been to a particular place before, act like you have been. Get information about them in the forums for the cities you plan on visiting, or your home town. Find out the going rates for HJ, BJ, FS etc. and have the money handy. Even a little comment during the Table Shower or Sauna such as "this is my favorite part" or something along those lines will make them think you were there before.

3) Get a Business Card - Some AMPs have business cards so you can ask for one on your way out. I have the girls write their name on them so I didn't forget and I could "ask" for them when I go back. Even if they weren't there on my visit, it showed the new provider or mama-san that I was there before.

4) Leave Valuables and Extra Money Outside - Only take in what you need. Some places may want to see your ID. You will need money or a Credit Card to pay. I usually take my cell-phone, keys, and only enough money to pay for what I want. If you don't know what the charge will be, put money in different pockets or hide it in your wallet (behind a photo or something) so they don't see all your money at once. I had one girl looking in my wallet after I told her I was used to paying $100 for FS and she wanted $150. Luckily, I had already "moved" the extra money somewhere else.

5) Get Fully Undressed - Yes, you will be naked. In my experience, the girl takes your door fee, leaves for a minute or more. Sometimes she will ask you to get undressed, sometimes she won't, sometimes she will and you won't understand a word she said. So use this time to take ALL of your clothes off. My first time, I was standing in my underwear and she told me to take those off too. I felt as if she knew it was my first time. So get naked and if the towel slides off, let it. It will show her that you have done this before.

6) Use Provided "Purse" - Many times, you will see a little purse or bag that is there for you to put valuables in. Use it to put your "valuables" in and carry that with you to other areas of the spa. You may go to a sauna, hot-tub, shower, or table-shower. Since you won't have pockets, look for the little bag and carry it with you. If they don't have one, you can ask for one. In some places, you may just stay in the room you were brought into the entire time (no shower). In this case, you will be able to keep an eye on your things. If you are leaving the room and are worried, look for something to carry your valuables in. NOTE: Having your things in the little bag is a neat clue to the girl that you have done this before.

7) Shower Etiquette - Some places offer a shower where you go in yourself and wash. If they don't offer, ask if there is one. Some places take you to a table-shower where they put you on a table and wash you. Some places, the girl will wash everything including your genitals. This is a good thing. Some places may ask you to wash your own genitals and I would advise you to do so if you want them to do anything later. It is not generally appropriate to ask for extras at this time.

8) Enjoy the Massage - It's part of the experience, and the girls usually give you a pretty good massage. If you have a stiff neck, sore legs, or something else, let her know so she can concentrate on those areas. You usually start out on your stomach and she rubs your back, legs, arms, etc. She may brush against you with her crotch, lift up her skirt and sit on your butt, and lean over brushing her body against you. Different places vary as far as touching her, but light brushing on her leg or arm aren't too intrusive and will generally let her know you are looking for extras. This isn't necessary and I usually don't "touch" her until later.

9) Become Aroused - Usually, the girl will try to get you aroused. She'll lighten up the touch a little around your buttocks and brush your skin gently. Shift yourself if you do become aroused to "let her know" that you need room to grow. If you aren't getting aroused, shift yourself anyway to "fake" getting aroused. This will let her know that your johnson is growing and you are getting ready. She may even reach underneath and lend a helping hand if you are lucky.

10) Wait to Flip Over - At some point, she'll ask you to flip over. When she does, simply flip over onto your back. You may or may not be aroused at this point. Either way, she'll know and she'll do everything she legally knows how to make sure you get aroused. This is a time to smile and enjoy her expertise.

11) The Tip - The girl will usually ask if there is anything else she can do for you or if you are "OK". This is where you say what you want (HJ, BJ, FS) or make the HJ, BJ, FS "motions". She'll either say how much or just ask you for money. This is where knowing the going rate is handy. It's usually $40-$60 for HJ, $80-$100 for BJ, and $100-$140 for FS. Keep in mind that you can always negotiate and it may vary depending on where in the USA, or world, you are. She may leave for a minute or two or she may just start right there. It sucks if she leaves and a million thoughts run through your head.

12) The Fun Part - When she returns (or starts), it's generally acceptable that you can touch her. She may or may not like you to and you have to respect her individual level of comfort. I've had girls get completely naked, sit between my legs, and give me a HJ as well as one that stands there fully clothed doing it. I can't predict what will happen but this will affect your decision to return or not return. If you are getting BJ or FS, she will most likely provide and put on the condom (which I recommend) and she'll start. Again, if you want to be on top, do it doggie-style, or want her on top, they are generally open to how you want to do it.

13) Variations - If you are into DATY or other things, be up front with it. I've done DATY on a number of girls and some get into it and some don't. Some enjoy when you touch and finger them and some don't. Some will let you massage them and some won't. I've never looked for Anal so I can't give advice on that. Some places will only give HJ. So be aware and look for advice in your local forums.

14) Happy Ending - After the ending, she'll usually clean you up or get rid of the condom if there was one used. Sometimes, a hot towel, a beverage, and even mouthwash are provided. If you paid for an hour and you finish early, you may or may not get the full time limit. Some girls will continue the massage, some will tell you to get dressed. This is another area where different places differ greatly.

15) Post Your Experience - If you go and get good service, tell us all about it. We don't need every detail but the basics like name of the place, door fee, tip, and included extras. If you get ripped off at a place, tell us that too and we'll appreciate you "taking one for the team".

16) Be Polite - I use this motto in life, but the providers are people just like you and me, and they like being treated with respect. During the massage, try giving out a compliment such as "that feels nice" or "your hands are so soft" instead of something like "you have nice tits" or "I can't wait to f**k you". I find that being nice goes a lot farther than acting like an ass. Talk to them like you'd talk to a new friend.

Disclaimer: This is just based on my experience in AMPs in a few cities. I don't claim to be an expert. Feel free to add on your own tips and direct others from the forums you post in to this section. Next time someone asks "any advice for visiting an AMP for the first time", you can point them here and hopefully others will share their tips and advice. I'm always looking for new tips too.

Nudie Blues
06-08-05, 01:48
If a finger in your ass while getting a BJ, makes you come like a made man - how do you respectively ask an AMP gal for the little extras. Does anyone know if the AMP girls have a nickname for popping a finger in the customers ass. If they don't have a nick for it - we need to come up with one and make it a habit of sharing the new buzz word.

TIA

Nudieblues

Nudie Blues
06-08-05, 01:49
If a finger in your ass while getting a BJ, makes you come like a made man - how do you respectively ask an AMP gal for the little extras. Does anyone know if the AMP girls have a nickname for popping a finger in the customers ass. If they don't have a nick for it - we need to come up with one and make it a habit of sharing the new buzz word.

TIA,

Nudieblues

Elrond
06-19-05, 11:44
I appreciate that much of the content in this section is on USA AMPs ( or non -A MPs in the USA) so I thought it may be helpful to travelling mongers to post a few comments on the MP scene here in the UK.

Massage parlours in the UK are, without exception, places where sex is sold. If you seek a sports massage for injuries, then there are fully qualified masseuses (and masseurs) who can help, but you won't find them in MPs.

A few are AMPs - but not many - you will find that they advertise the fact that they have Asian girls.

10 or 15 years ago, the set-up used to be that you paid the receptionist ( or maid) a set fee - say £10 - for your "massage". All extras were then negotiated directly once privately locked in the room with the girl. This was so that the parlour owners could reasonably claim that they didn't know what went on in the privacy of the room, and could thus hopefully avoid LE attention and accusations of running brothels.

However, it now seems that most MPs are at very least "tolerated" by the Local Councils and Police. Many have good relations with the police (without resorting to bribes or freebies!) and the police will advise them on security and dodgy or violent customers.

Since this toleration came about, it is now the norm for an "all-inclusive" price to be quoted and paid, and the 'old style' of a door fee and then pay the girl directly is regarded as quaint and old fashioned. This price - around the £50 mark, though some are lower and some higher, particularly in London - gets you a massage (of sorts) and FS which usually - but not always - includes a preliminary BBBJ.

You will usually meet the girls beforehand and have a chance to select or reject before parting with any money. If there is a choice of girl available, you will often meet them all, and the receptionist will ask if you want to 'book in'. If one of the girls has taken your fancy, then pay the receptionist, and she will take you to the private room.

Most rooms now have beds, not proper 'massage tables'. These 'tables' are left over from the days when an air of legitimacy was required, but are narrow, high, and uncomfortable.

Usually the girls will be wearing lingerie, but some offer uniforms or just sexy dresses with stockings etc, or even - once - a tight one-piece swimsuit!

In some places the girl will strip as soon as she enters the room; in others she will wait until the 'flip'. Some girls have a fun technique of stripping to the waist while you're face down and then rubbing their nipples into your back.

As I have said the price for FS will usually include BBBJ to start with, and then FS, normally in your selection of positions. Some girls will offer additional services which will normally carry an extra charge - CIM, Anal etc.

In some multi-girl parlours you may be offered two (or more) girls at once. This will usually be for slightly less than twice the single-girl fee ( say £80 for 2 girl when its £45 for 1). before agreeing, check out carefully what you get for your cash! It frequently doesn't mean FS with both girls - one may do the BBBJ and the other the FS; you may get BBBJ from both, either alternately or jointly.

Sometimes a "lesbian show" may be offered, again at an additional fee. Again, check what the offer includes as it may be no more than a bit of half-hearted fondling.

Most MPs will give quite explicit details of what is on offer over the telephone, and many have websites which should give details of the grils' rota and some pictures to help you decide whether to visit. As on the telephone, some websites have quite explicit photo galleries.

Hopefully these comments may help any mongers visiting these shores to enjoy the services available at our many MPs!

Frank Booth
06-30-05, 16:28
If a finger in your ass while getting a BJ, makes you come like a made man - how do you respectively ask an AMP gal for the little extras.


They are there to serve you and if they are real professionals, they have been asked for and provided extras many would never even think of. Just ask and have a good time.

John Jr
08-21-05, 18:36
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Clodbuster
08-21-05, 20:50
Wow! Incredible videos - yes! Let us know where this is because this place and this girl will be very popular. Is this really a real place or is this a set up movie? I know this girl is from another country because a US girl would never go to this much effort, for a man, and have such a great attitude. WOW! Someone knows where this is. Let us know!

Thanks,

Clodbuster

Frank Africa
08-31-05, 17:43
http://www.zippyvideos.com/157055341260195.html
http://www.zippyvideos.com/64189313261165.html

http://www.zippyvideos.com/10372915261795.html
http://www.zippyvideos.com/112866467262185.html
http://www.zippyvideos.com/164593973262415.html
http://www.zippyvideos.com/115017720262695.html
You're right, those are great videos. Lucky guy!

These videos were originally posted on the Okinawa board, and were taken in one of the "soaplands" massage places common throughout Japan.

Check out the Tokyo board for a recent post on where the soaplands can be found in that town.

By the way, the soapy wet full body massage that you see in the middle videos is sometimes referred to as a "Thai-style" massage, and can be easily obtained at several different MPs in Bangkok, also at the Kartika massage parlor in downtown Jakarta, Indonesia, among other places.

Frank Africa
08-31-05, 17:45
If a finger in your ass while getting a BJ, makes you come like a made man - how do you respectively ask an AMP gal for the little extras. Does anyone know if the AMP girls have a nickname for popping a finger in the customers ass. If they don't have a nick for it - we need to come up with one and make it a habit of sharing the new buzz word.
I support the post by Frank Booth, he is 100% correct

Kuber
09-21-05, 19:42
I see lot of attention being ravished on the guy's bottom incluing a delicious AR. Is it very common in Japanese soaplands. Seems very uniquely asian as I can never imagine getting an AR in the US or elsewhere in EU. Even in THai soapy's never experienced AR (like this!). Is it a Japanese spciality or more common in asia.

Thanks

These videos were originally posted on the Okinawa board, and were taken in one of the "soaplands" massage places common throughout Japan.

Check out the Tokyo board for a recent post on where the soaplands can be found in that town.

By the way, the soapy wet full body massage that you see in the middle videos is sometimes referred to as a "Thai-style" massage, and can be easily obtained at several different MPs in Bangkok, also at the Kartika massage parlor in downtown Jakarta, Indonesia, among other places.[/QUOTE]

Crazy Dick
10-05-05, 03:17
By the way, the soapy wet full body massage that you see in the middle videos is sometimes referred to as a "Thai-style" massage, and can be easily obtained at several different MPs in Bangkok, also at the Kartika massage parlor in downtown Jakarta, Indonesia, among other places.[/QUOTE]I don't know about other locations, but a slight variation of the Bangkok Bubble Bath TS is available in Washingtion, DC at the Sun Club. If anyone knows of other locations in the U.S. Please Post.

Crazy Dick

Yusta Vansel
10-22-05, 11:24
Istanbul Massage parlours: Papatya MP and VillaChina (Mix Point) MP

http://www.papatyamasajsalonu.com
http://villachina-class.com

Marpa
07-07-06, 16:16
Four months ago I was in Langkawi/Malaysia and went to a popular massage parlour by the beach. A male masseur came over to massage me but I'm
straight and had other intentions so asked for a female to massage me. She was stunning, young (perhaps too young) but refused to do anything other than a masssage. No amount of money could tempt her to give a simple HJ.
I didn't get a second chance to go again to a massage place since I had my wife around most of the time. I often wondered what it would have been like if I was massaged by this young man, has anyone been massaged by a male and if so what's its like ?

Tea Boy
09-07-06, 01:56
I have only had my feet massaged by a Chinese male, and I didn't like it. The female touch does something for me even if it is supposedly "non-sexual".

Roguesta
09-07-06, 05:00
I give massages for a living, and about ten percent are males. I don't give hand jobs either.

Adhin
09-07-06, 09:24
Four months ago I was in Langkawi/Malaysia and went to a popular massage parlour by the beach. A male masseur came over to massage me but I'm straight and had other intentions so asked for a female to massage me. She was stunning, young (perhaps too young) but refused to do anything other than a masssage. No amount of money could tempt her to give a simple HJ.

I didn't get a second chance to go again to a massage place since I had my wife around most of the time. I often wondered what it would have been like if I was massaged by this young man, has anyone been massaged by a male and if so what's its like ?Yes, I have been massaged by males on a regular basis as also by females. My experience has been as follows:

I am a truly massage person and when I want a real massage--body aching and needing relaxation--male masseurs are the best. They have firm hands and move more freely over the body and take full 1 hour or even more. Only once did a male masseu take my penis in his hands and started stroking it. I was repulsed and asked him to stop it and never repeated that masseu again. Otherwise no other male masseu has tried sexual stuff.

Female masseus I like when I am in a sensual mood. The problem with the females is that within 15 minutes they move to the sexual part and so the massage part is not much fun. They should understand that if one wanted sex only, one could get an escort. I thought things would be different in Thailand but there too more or less the same scene. Only at one place, in Pattaya, the lady gave me a full 1 hour massage before asking me if I wanted something else. In Bangkok, I went to 4 parlours, one after the other, but nowhere did they wait more than 15 minutes before getting into the sexual act.

MadBoss
01-01-07, 14:18
If a finger in your ass while getting a BJ, makes you come like a made man - how do you respectively ask an AMP gal for the little extras. Does anyone know if the AMP girls have a nickname for popping a finger in the customers ass. If they don't have a nick for it - we need to come up with one and make it a habit of sharing the new buzz word.

TIA,

NudiebluesFrom Penang Malaysia. I've only ever found one ML who sticks it in my ass. It started from a very oily massage of my ass and gonads while I'm faced down. She'll do this thing like a credit card swipe in your crack. DELICIOUS. Massages my rosebud with her finger and I tell her to stick it in.

This is a HJ by the way not BJ. She'll get me in a foetal or doggie style position and stroke with one hand and finger me with the other.

I am a regular with her for this type of service.

Lazzaro
01-10-07, 14:13
Hey guys,

Have you ever written in Google your nick and than click on the "research" button?

The "answer" could surprise you
Obviously, more the nickname in not common, more chanches you have get a short list of answer
I posted mine and the nicks of some budy subscribed here.
WOW! what a surprise!

Ciao

Double Nickle
01-14-07, 16:20
If a finger in your ass while getting a BJ, makes you come like a made man - how do you respectively ask an AMP gal for the little extras. Does anyone know if the AMP girls have a nickname for popping a finger in the customers ass. If they don't have a nick for it - we need to come up with one and make it a habit of sharing the new buzz word.

TIA,

NudiebluesIn the USA this "popping a finger in the customer's ass" is known as Prostate Massage. Nicknames are FUTB, "finger up the butt," or HFUMA, "her finger up my ass."

Double Nickle

Van Velen
01-15-07, 20:45
I once had a Thai Massage that shouldn't have included any sexual stuff but it did anyway. This was not in Thailand, unfortunately, but in Holland at a Thai sex club. Except for the sexual stuff I thought it pretty tame, but I might've also been too nervous since it was my "first time" with a girl for money. I really should try it again some time. If I do I won't forget to post here afterwards.

NicFrenchy
01-23-07, 16:14
In Bangkok, I went to 4 parlours, one after the other, but nowhere did they wait more than 15 minutes before getting into the sexual act.You should have done your research beforehands. there are hundreds of Massage places in Bangkok that will offer only massage and No Extra services.

Some other places are 50/50

Some places (probably the ones you went to) are 99% Sex only places.

Best thing to do is to Try Korean Massage (Sazanka) or your typical Japanese (Akane).

The massage skills are great there.

Stim702
02-28-07, 23:46
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Hi John,

Any idea why these links aren't working? I've made an account on zippyvideo but video's won't show when I click on the above links.

/stim702

Double Nickle
05-13-07, 13:45
i went to an urban nudist resort in the north part of london some time ago. small pool, showers, dressing room, lounge, bar, showers, exercise room, sunning patio. very nice. i signed up for a massage. when i was introduced to the masseuses by the bar i could feel myself start to stiffen up (i was nude, they weren't). i did the times table in my head and averted a full blown erection. later, when it was time for my massage, the masseuse led me upstairs to the private massage room. i was nude until i lay down on the massage table and she put a covering over me. i got a good legitimate draped massage, no extras. after the massage was over i came out from under the cover and padded back downstairs stark naked again.

hedonism ii at negril, jamaica is not a particularly prudish place. there is a nude section. it is claimed that the entire resort becomes nude after midnight. i tested this and it seems to be true. you aren't supposed to get blowjobs in the pool and jacuzzi sect of the nude part - but this is a rule that is often broken. it is considered great sport to have sex in you room with the lights on and drapes open.

so when i went to get a massage at the edge of the nude section i hoped for the best. i walked in nude and answered their questions naked. i got an appointment right away, walked into the massage room and lay on the table without a stitch on. so then she covers me up. it was a great massage. i obviously enjoyed it as i got a great stiffy. no extras though. "all done." i came out from under the covers and made my way back into the public areas. i was totally nude again, but this time i had a big hard-on.

double nickle

Lorenzo
05-13-07, 21:42
i got a good legitimate draped massage, no extras...............

no extras though. "all done." i came out from under the covers and made my way back into the public areas. i was totally nude again, but this time i had a big hard-on.

double nickle
do you think the outcome might have been different if you had requested extras in either place? just a question. i've done this in a few places and it has worked, other times not. when she says she is finished, i just make a circular motion with my hand over the groin area and ask, with a smile, "what about a massage here?" it may work, it may not, but it's worth a try.

lorenzo

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07-25-07, 09:51
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Bsm23
03-17-08, 20:31
OK, gonna ask a strange question here:

I'm interested in getting my first massage, but I have a slightly spotty back (but no facial spots), not extremely spotty back, but there's usually at least 1 or two medium size ones and I don't want to make the girl/escort/massager become uncomfortable/sick thinking I'm unhygienic (which I am not, I shower twice daily!). I've tried those shower gels for spots, usually aimed at teenagers, but they don't work or affect me due to my sensitive skin.

Any advice welcome :)

Anchor71
04-01-08, 05:37
everybody told me that prostitution is illegal in hawaii. and the law enforcers are serious about harassing tourists. sometime they even trap new comers.

well, i spent some weeks in hawaii. initially i was frustrated but did not believe that there were no way out for the mongers.

i found striptease bar, karaoke bar, massage center, peep show everything. therefore, hawaii cannot remain far from entertaining people with sex. i started my venture from a massage center. interestingly, they call it 'relaxation centre'. i read one thread at an internet site that said that some japanese were caught while pursuing sex in the name of relaxation.

so, i went to a relaxation center near ala wai, opposite to convention centre. the japanese/ chinese/ korean mamasan in her broken english asked me whether she should show the girls. i asked her whether the girls would offer additional service and how much they would charge. mamasan showed me a chart that said entrance fee (house fee) us$50 and one hour massage us$150. so that would be us$200. in addition, if i need to pay extra for the additional services, it would cost almost ten times that i paid in bangkok just the other week. so, i was in a mood of bargaining. the mamasan was not happy. she was in a difficulty to explain what services i would get because of legal restriction but she used all possible words and body language to convince me. anyway, i straightly offered us$150 for a one-hour full service package. the mamasan was extremely unhappy but finally agreed on a condition that i would not be able to choose my girl. i agreed and got a japanese girl (korean mother).

i must agree that she was highly skillful and capable of satisfying anyone. after a quick shower, she escorted me to a small room where she just started caressing and rubbing me with her tongue and that continued for an hour. incredible!

i spent almost two hours. every second of my stay with her was memorable.

i went to that relaxation center a number of times but unfortunately i did not find her again. in fact i met different mamasans each time i visited.

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Member #3071
01-05-09, 10:58
Maybe 2 years ago I stumbled across Worf1972 report from 05-2005 on how to behave in a massage parlor. As I am not living in the US but have been around Europe and other parts of the world I tried to apply his 16 hints in all kinds of massage places. Some where success was more obvious from the beginning then at others. In easier countries and more difficult ones, such as Sweden! In easier places, such as hotel massage and more difficult ones, such as Sport Gym's with massage facilities. But the kind of service I received has never been advertised directly or indirectly.

As a conclusion: It does not always work but in many cases. Very seldom you get more then a HJ but all places have not been pure massage places in the fist place anyhow.

I personally like the thrill that comes with it to go to a new place and see how far one can get, without being to obvious about it.

So in many cases it comes as an extra without extra payment, tip appreciated and remembered. In some cases break through with one masseuse opens up the rest of the crew.

So as a conclusion I appreciate Worf1972 report a lot. Very, very helpful. And for everybody who is curious I suggest to follow his advise closely when it can be applied to the local situation.

Good luck,

#3071

Cybertron
11-15-09, 06:33
Don't worry, I had the same problem. They just don't care how you look. For them it's only the money that matters specially in massage parlors.

Cybertron


OK, gonna ask a strange question here:

I'm interested in getting my first massage, but I have a slightly spotty back (but no facial spots), not extremely spotty back, but there's usually at least 1 or two medium size ones and I don't want to make the girl/escort/massager become uncomfortable/sick thinking I'm unhygienic (which I am not, I shower twice daily!). I've tried those shower gels for spots, usually aimed at teenagers, but they don't work or affect me due to my sensitive skin.

Any advice welcome :)

Cybertron
11-15-09, 06:52
Hi,

A few day back I when to a MP that I visit quiet often. I asked a girl (who I'm a bit friendly with) to massage me. She was in kind of a hurry. So, she started kissing me , giving hand job, BJ etc. It didn't take more than 6 or7 min for me to cum, and everything was over.

I thought she was doing it free for me, but she started to fight with me and demand for the money. I refused because I did not get a massage I paid for and the BJ last only for about 5 minutes.

Finally that fucking ***** **** pick pocketed me and grabbed all my money. And ended up taking the amount she demanded (no bargaining).

Since the government was cracking down on illegal MP's I threatened that **** that I would inform the police, she didn't give a shit.

Sorry guys I was so pissed off. Do you think it was my fault?

Black Spidey
12-03-09, 07:29
How many of you have lost your virginity in a MP to some masseuse. It was the worst and most horrible experience for me.

My first time was when my parent had left the country on a vacation. I was alone in the house, getting bored. So, I decided to go out in my car, while roaming the city I found this massage parlor that wasn't much visible to the public. I stopped and decided to check it out for my self.

The Chinese women there welcomed me, and told the price for a massage was $20 for 50 minutes. I agree and went inside, the masseuse was a old ugly women in her late 30's. She knew I was horny and asked if I wanted to have sex, I was so confused and didn't realize I agreed.

She got naked in a blink of an eye and sat on the bed spreading her legs. I was like oh my god what do I do now? So then I put my cock in side her pussy and started going in and out. I cam inside her in maybe less than 30 seconds.

Vlad Impaler
02-08-10, 07:44
Went to a MP.

Asked a girl to massage me.

She started kissing me, giving hand job, BJ etc.

6 or7 min for me to cum.

Refused to pay.

Do you think it was my fault?You went to a place of business.

Asked for a service.

(appears that massage has 2 meanings here).

When she starts to give you the 'wink wink' meaning of massage you don't stop or ask her for normal massage.

You enjoy the fruits of her labour.

Then you say it is a freebie.

NO WAY!

Pay up like a gentleman and consider it an enjoyable experience.

As to your suggestion to report this parlour.

For giving you a service you desired and it appears, 'wink wink' 'asked for'.

Cmon.

By threatening to not pay and threatening to report you are just making it harder for members to negotiate reasonable terms.

Next time someone like you walks in, they will be asking for $ up front and there goes our insurance to get delivery of full services.

The Forum exists for sexual experiences by men with women.

The fact that you are a member says that is what you are seeking.

Pay up and next time clearly ask for what you want and if not being delivered correct her.

But I suspect that you were happy.

So in summary.

Yes you were wrong, yes you were at fault.

Alex Carter
09-20-10, 18:19
I too lost my virginity in a MP. It was more than 20 years ago now and I was still in my teens, but I still remember it very well. I was quite a late developer, and despite the fact that a lot of my friends were finding it easy to get girls to have sex with, I was shy around girls and didn't talk much.

There was such a thing as contact magazines in those days and I used to buy them and write to the women who advertised. But never with any luck. Then one day I saw this advert for a MP and decided to go.

I was greeted by quite an old (old for me at the time, but probably around 35ish I guess), and not good looking woman, who said a massage was, I think #20, and that anything else in the room started from #30. As soon as I heard that I knew I would get something, and then when she said the girls would be down shortly for me to choose from, I got even more excited as I realised I wouldn't have to go with her.

There were 3 girls to choose from, but only one young and very good looking one. Called Helen. As soon as we got in the room, and I undressed and lay down on the massage table, she undid the button at the front of her mini skirt so I could see her knickers. And after a few minutes she asked if I wanted sex. I think I paid #40 (well it was more than 20 years ago). She slipped the condom on and we had sex. I remember being surprised at how long I lasted despite being so excited (maybe because I was too excited). But looking back later, I reckon it couldn't have been more than 3-4 minutes.

Overall I really enjoyed the experience, which is probably why I am still hooked on MPs now. It was, by a long way, not the best experience I had at a MP, but I have also had some really awful experiences too. But overall, I would say my favourite type of mongering is MPs. If only they had somewhere more comfortable than those terrible massage tables.


How many of you have lost your virginity in a MP to some masseuse. It was the worst and most horrible experience for me.

My first time was when my parent had left the country on a vacation. I was alone in the house, getting bored. So, I decided to go out in my car, while roaming the city I found this massage parlor that wasn't much visible to the public. I stopped and decided to check it out for my self.

The Chinese women there welcomed me, and told the price for a massage was $20 for 50 minutes. I agree and went inside, the masseuse was a old ugly women in her late 30's. She knew I was horny and asked if I wanted to have sex, I was so confused and didn't realize I agreed.

She got naked in a blink of an eye and sat on the bed spreading her legs. I was like oh my god what do I do now? So then I put my cock in side her pussy and started going in and out. I cam inside her in maybe less than 30 seconds.

JohnXBrown
08-01-11, 11:50
I'm stopping over in Singapore for 3 nights in November and would love an "in-hotel-room" massage with possible extras.

Can anyone suggest any contacts?

Thanks.

John X. Brown.

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Adaptable
08-16-11, 17:45
I was stationed in Sydney from late 2000 to late 2003 and have visited about once a year since. I've traveled the world and found that Sydney offers the kind of massage experiences I like most; communication with the girl in English, a good relaxing massage, and an excellent happy ending that was either HJ, BJ, or occasionally full service. A few times I've even had some social time with the girl outside the parlor, which made the next time even sweeter. I've had PSE and GFE experiences with all kinds of women there. From Brits and Canadians on holiday to Germans / Italians / Latin Americans studying English to beach bodied Aussies to Thai / Malay / Indian / Chinese / Korean and just about everything in between.

The Bondi Junction Area is teaming with massage places, including Misty's / Unique and a few Asian places. In the CBD there is Sirs, and other apartment oriented parlors. Near Central are a bunch as well. Including authentic Korean (soapy sim sex, BBBJ CIM) and other Asian places. Crows Nest also has a few. All of there places are easily found on Google, as it is completely legal in Sydney!

One of my early experiences was at a place is Harbord above the shops back with the US Dollar was. 50 the Aussie dollar. I choose a tall beach bodied blonde who was having her first day there, and I was her first customer ever. She immediately asked me if I wanted extras, and I choose full service. She proceeded to suck and fuck me like I was a movie star. Moaning the whole time. After I came, she gave me an incredibly relaxing massage, pausing ever now and then to give me a few strokes, then turned me over for a stoke and BJ that I'll never forget. Two magnificent shots that I still wank too to this day! We talked for a little while afterwards, and even French kissed on my way out. All for $200 Australian ($100 USD at the time).

I've had similar experiences a few more times in Sydney, and I think the secret is treating the girl nicely, and giving her lots of compliments (on her looks, technique, whatever to make her feel at ease with you). With massages in Sydney, its a surprise every time! I've had good and unique massage experiences in Brazil, Mexico, Singapore, San Francisco, Peru and Argentina. But in my opinion, those places don't have the magic that Sydney has to offer.

Sxyman
12-11-11, 11:35
There's an AMP in malta which offers "romantic massage". Any idea what this might refer to? Just wondering, because I never read this on these forums.

NicFrenchy
05-27-12, 10:42
Can anyone guide me a gud country where I can pick up blondes like gf for full night. Way cheap like aians in BKKWhat a broad question. Where you from? What's your budget? Are you old and Ugly or young and good looking?

That would help to give advice.

I think picking up blondes is easy from some clubs in Europe but it all depends on your look and your desire to spend a few quids on drinks.

MrWonderful
09-18-12, 06:07
http://xhamster.com/movies/1409446/avril_sun_nuru_massage.html

Can anyone please tell me. What is the liquid she is using for massage. It is definitely not oil

Wine Guy 247
09-18-12, 13:33
http://xhamster.com/movies/1409446/avril_sun_nuru_massage.html

Can anyone please tell me. What is the liquid she is using for massage. It is definitely not oilDo a search on Nuru massage oil for example to find samples. Got to hand it to the Japanese for this one. Here is a sample from Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Original-Nuru-Massage-Gel-Ounces/dp/B004HFHX68

WG

MrWonderful
09-19-12, 14:10
Do a search on Nuru massage oil for example to find samples. Got to hand it to the Japanese for this one. Here is a sample from Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Original-Nuru-Massage-Gel-Ounces/dp/B004HFHX68

WGThank you.

HsPuppy55
11-15-12, 13:35
As this thread is on the subject of massages, I would like to really understand the different types of massages.

My impression is that there are three types massages I. E the rubbing type wherein after applying oil on the body the body is rubbed with long strokes of the hands and fingers with light or medium pressure. One example is the Ayurvedic massages of Kerala in india. The second type is where the body parts such as the legs etc are stretched and / or bent to their limits, an example is the Thai massage and the third is the where the hands of the masseur are used in squeezing the muscles while moving all over the body. This " squeezing " type massage is the best in my opinion but I am still not sure what this style is called. Can any one help?

I have been lucky to get such a massage but the masseur told me it was ' Thai ' style which I feel is not correct.

In my opinion this ' squeezing ' style of massage followed by a good HJ is the most relaxing thing in the world, guaranteed to not only relax you but also lower your blood pressure.

Hspuppy55

NicFrenchy
12-25-12, 08:49
I have been lucky to get such a massage but the masseur told me it was ' Thai ' style which I feel is not correct.

In my opinion this ' squeezing ' style of massage followed by a good HJ is the most relaxing thing in the world, guaranteed to not only relax you but also lower your blood pressure.

Hspuppy55Actually, it is a Thai Massage. Thai massage isn't only about the legs but it's massaging, pressing, Pulling your muscles while making your joints crack.

The Oil massage is just a copy of the "Swedish Massage".

You also have Hot Oil / towels massage (Korean Style) , they usually do this after a Body srub.

Best is the "Balls Massage", if done properly, you will have such a powerful orgasm and have the stiffest cock for the next couple days. There is a place in Bangkok that does that and it feels like heaven.

BionicMan
12-25-12, 08:56
Best is the "Balls Massage", if done properly, you will have such a powerful orgasm and have the stiffest cock for the next couple days. There is a place in Bangkok that does that and it feels like heaven.Are you referring to Hana massage in Soi 22? I missed it last time I was in BKK but still in the agenda. If not Hana, which one are we missing?

NicFrenchy
12-25-12, 10:36
Are you referring to Hana massage in Soi 22? I missed it last time I was in BKK but still in the agenda. If not Hana, which one are we missing?Actually, it's RIN I am referring to. Hana massage soi 22 changed its name a couple months back.

I have had a lot of Balls massage by different providers but RIN is still the best.

BionicMan
12-25-12, 22:05
Actually, it's RIN I am referring to. Hana massage soi 22 changed its name a couple months back.

I have had a lot of Balls massage by different providers but RIN is still the best.Rin was at Hana? Still there? Indeed she was my target and knew she was working at Hana.

NicFrenchy
12-26-12, 03:22
Rin was at Hana? Still there? Indeed she was my target and knew she was working at Hana.Rin has taken on a majority partner to raise capital, and the name has changed to "Yayoi". Rin is still around, acting as ad-hoc manager and provider. Nothing has changed dramatically other than that

RahulA9282
12-26-12, 07:57
Hi Members,

Does anybody has any idea of Massage Parlours in Kolkata, India where I can get extra services. If any body has any idea please post.

NicFrenchy
12-30-12, 12:59
Hi Members,

Does anybody has any idea of Massage Parlours in Kolkata, India where I can get extra services. If any body has any idea please post.You may want to check the Calcutta Thread: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?955-Calcutta

Double Shooter
12-30-12, 13:15
I was stationed in Sydney from late 2000 to late 2003 and have visited about once a year since. I've traveled the world and found that Sydney offers the kind of massage experiences I like most; communication with the girl in English, a good relaxing massage, and an excellent happy ending that was either HJ, BJ, or occasionally full service. A few times I've even had some social time with the girl outside the parlor, which made the next time even sweeter. I've had PSE and GFE experiences with all kinds of women there. From Brits and Canadians on holiday to Germans / Italians / Latin Americans studying English to beach bodied Aussies to Thai / Malay / Indian / Chinese / Korean and just about everything in between.

The Bondi Junction Area is teaming with massage places, including Misty's / Unique and a few Asian places. In the CBD there is Sirs, and other apartment oriented parlors. Near Central are a bunch as well. Including authentic Korean (soapy sim sex, BBBJ CIM) and other Asian places. Crows Nest also has a few. All of there places are easily found on Google, as it is completely legal in Sydney!

One of my early experiences was at a place is Harbord above the shops back with the US Dollar was. 50 the Aussie dollar. I choose a tall beach bodied blonde who was having her first day there, and I was her first customer ever. She immediately asked me if I wanted extras, and I choose full service. She proceeded to suck and fuck me like I was a movie star. Moaning the whole time. After I came, she gave me an incredibly relaxing massage, pausing ever now and then to give me a few strokes, then turned me over for a stoke and BJ that I'll never forget. Two magnificent shots that I still wank too to this day! We talked for a little while afterwards, and even French kissed on my way out. All for $200 Australian ($100 USD at the time).

I've had similar experiences a few more times in Sydney, and I think the secret is treating the girl nicely, and giving her lots of compliments (on her looks, technique, whatever to make her feel at ease with you). With massages in Sydney, its a surprise every time! I've had good and unique massage experiences in Brazil, Mexico, Singapore, San Francisco, Peru and Argentina. But in my opinion, those places don't have the magic that Sydney has to offer.Nice report but don't times change. Your 100 US dollars buys you less than 100 Aussie dollars today!

HsPuppy55
01-15-13, 18:18
For us elders penetrative sex does not hold the attraction it once used to hold.

First of all the condom is something which does not give you the same feeling.

Hard to admit but the " stiffness " sometimes is also wanting.

By this age (above 55) sensual pleasures begin to mean something more and different than just penetrative sex.

For me the idle sensual experience is to have a real high class massage at a really high class spa but with an introductory HJ, a real expert massage and then a finishing HJ.

But the crowd on this forum is understandably of a younger age who do not have the patience of all this sensual " nonsense '.

Am still hoping that this thread which is specifically named " massages " would be more about the aforesaid experiences and not just plain sex which is all over the place in all the other threads.

Any elders here?

Gesheft
01-22-13, 11:14
For us elders penetrative sex does not hold the attraction it once used to hold.

First of all the condom is something which does not give you the same feeling.

Hard to admit but the " stiffness " sometimes is also wanting.

By this age (above 55) sensual pleasures begin to mean something more and different than just penetrative sex.

For me the idle sensual experience is to have a real high class massage at a really high class spa but with an introductory HJ, a real expert massage and then a finishing HJ.

But the crowd on this forum is understandably of a younger age who do not have the patience of all this sensual " nonsense '.

Am still hoping that this thread which is specifically named " massages " would be more about the aforesaid experiences and not just plain sex which is all over the place in all the other threads.

Any elders here?Agreed. Well said.

I like a good fucking about as well. But if this is preceeded with a sensual massage. It prolongs the fucking about as well!

A good massage can be memorable. A bad massage. So un-enjoyable!

Most of my mongering is in East Africa. And I have found that Ethiopian massages are in general extraordinarily good!

Not all offer HJs or happy ends. Many do. But not all.

Last I had in Addis Ababa at a hotel spa (and most have them). Was a very good full body massage for over an hour. Private parts were covered with a towel,

But received a good ass massage and massage of the groin. When it came to the "please. More. Here." (revealing a massive hardon!). It was "no no. I don't do that " and she bolted out the room.

But. It was still a great massage!

Cheers.

G.

MajorPyle
02-13-13, 17:20
Agreed. Well said.

I like a good fucking about as well. But if this is preceeded with a sensual massage. It prolongs the fucking about as well!

A good massage can be memorable. A bad massage. So un-enjoyable!

Most of my mongering is in East Africa. And I have found that Ethiopian massages are in general extraordinarily good!

Not all offer HJs or happy ends. Many do. But not all.

Last I had in Addis Ababa at a hotel spa (and most have them). Was a very good full body massage for over an hour. Private parts were covered with a towel,

But received a good ass massage and massage of the groin. When it came to the "please. More. Here." (revealing a massive hardon!). It was "no no. I don't do that " and she bolted out the room.

But. It was still a great massage!

Cheers.

G.I'm a bit younger than 55, however I too do love a great sensual massage prior to sex and in many situations I'm completely satisfied with a skilled HJ finish. To be completely honest, in BKK, Penang and even Latin America I've had HJ's and ball rubs with a good massage that were far more memorable that just the quick fuck or even repeated LT sessions. It's all about the skill and this is when I appreciate the slightly older provider. She doesn't want to show off her stretch marks etc and often will provide far better quality when she too is comfortable. I have travel companions who simply don't understand this since they're only quest is to fulfill some porn fantasy. I on the other hand have learned to enjoy everything about a woman's touch and smell. Maybe this is why I get so much free strange and they get charged top dollar.

Gamma Ray 007
03-20-13, 13:08
I've been going to an AMP in S. California and developed a very good working relationship with one of the gals (all Koreans there). After a great table shower with Susan it's straight to undressing, playing around (no penetration) , watching some recent pix snagged from interesting parts of the internet on my phone, etc. I usually move to an erotic massage of Susan's back, then towards her pussy, and usually get her off on least two pretty significant orgasms before it's "my turn." I should mention that I always go first thing on a slow weekday so there is no rush or customer pressure, and this scenario took a years to develop. Next I get face down, and Susan does an amazing fingertip-brush massage, then light body-body, and on the flip she's all over me in a sensual way. She particularly likes to "ride" my penis with her pussy lips (sumata?) and we finish with a great hand-job.

Well, there's another gal at this joint who used to be my regular until I met Susan, and I wondered if they would be open for a four-hand massage. Would it be awkward? Would they be uncomfortable being naked around each other? Maybe I'm naive, but I was afraid it would mess up my good times with Susan. Anyway, I called ahead and asked for them both in a four-hand. The mamasan did take a double house-fee (less 25%) , but what I got was an amazing double table-shower (one of my favorite parts) , then back in the room they were quite happy with my undressing them both immediately. We had a blast doing "girl-boy-girl" sandwiches in the mirror. I laid one down on the table and the other became my "helper" as I gave a sensual and pussy-focussed massage. There weren't any real orgasms-I guess that was too much to ask. But both were great sports, and each took a turn on the table. When it was "my turn" they really dug in, and I particularly loved having one hand on each pussy. Susan was bushy and natural while her friend was neatly shaved. Each managed to give me opportunities for the visual stimulation I loved, and between the non-stop body rubs, ball-licking, and penis touching I finally arrived at a gut-wrenching orgasm with all hands on deck. Both participated in the cleanup, and each got the same tip they would have received in an individual session.

All in all it was an amazing time, probably not to be repeated until my birthday next November. In case you're wondering what a four-hand can be like, take a chance. It won't be like this, but it might be great. Would anyone else care to post their best four-hand experiences? I'm looking for ideas for November.

Linga
04-29-13, 19:57
Too good, thought I should share with the ISG folks.

http://www.xvideos.com/video1982103/sensual_massage_by_maria_asian_cumshots_asian_swallow_japanese_chinese#915.3

SuperCroc
05-05-13, 20:57
Too good, thought I should share with the ISG folks.

http://www.xvideos.com/video1982103/sensual_massage_by_maria_asian_cumshots_asian_swallow_japanese_chinese#915.3Good stuff, a massage by maria Ozawa is any man's dream come true.

SuperCroc
05-05-13, 21:11
I've been going to an AMP in S. California and developed a very good working relationship with one of the gals (all Koreans there). After a great table shower with Susan it's straight to undressing, playing around (no penetration) , watching some recent pix snagged from interesting parts of the internet on my phone, etc. I usually move to an erotic massage of Susan's back, then towards her pussy, and usually get her off on least two pretty significant orgasms before it's "my turn." I should mention that I always go first thing on a slow weekday so there is no rush or customer pressure, and this scenario took a years to develop. Next I get face down, and Susan does an amazing fingertip-brush massage, then light body-body, and on the flip she's all over me in a sensual way. She particularly likes to "ride" my penis with her pussy lips (sumata?) and we finish with a great hand-job.

Well, there's another gal at this joint who used to be my regular until I met Susan, and I wondered if they would be open for a four-hand massage. Would it be awkward? Would they be uncomfortable being naked around each other? Maybe I'm naive, but I was afraid it would mess up my good times with Susan. Anyway, I called ahead and asked for them both in a four-hand. The mamasan did take a double house-fee (less 25%) , but what I got was an amazing double table-shower (one of my favorite parts) , then back in the room they were quite happy with my undressing them both immediately. We had a blast doing "girl-boy-girl" sandwiches in the mirror. I laid one down on the table and the other became my "helper" as I gave a sensual and pussy-focussed massage. There weren't any real orgasms-I guess that was too much to ask. But both were great sports, and each took a turn on the table. When it was "my turn" they really dug in, and I particularly loved having one hand on each pussy. Susan was bushy and natural while her friend was neatly shaved. Each managed to give me opportunities for the visual stimulation I loved, and between the non-stop body rubs, ball-licking, and penis touching I finally arrived at a gut-wrenching orgasm with all hands on deck. Both participated in the cleanup, and each got the same tip they would have received in an individual session.

All in all it was an amazing time, probably not to be repeated until my birthday next November. In case you're wondering what a four-hand can be like, take a chance. It won't be like this, but it might be great. Would anyone else care to post their best four-hand experiences? I'm looking for ideas for November.Great report gamma, good for you. Four hands is something I haven't ventured into yet despite my extensive visits to AMPs and having the opportunity a few times. Def something I'm going to do soon now, your report is also encouraging.

Ilasan
09-21-13, 14:07
following are the six most popular forms of massage found in the united states and canada:

swedish massage. by far the most popular form of massage, swedish massage is so common that it's often referred to generically as 'relaxation massage' or even just simply 'massage. ' popularized by early 19th century swedish fencing master and gymnastics teacher henrik ling, swedish massage involves long, flowing strokes, often in the direction of the heart, along with kneading and circular movements, all using massage lotion or oil to minimize friction. used most often for its relaxation benefits, swedish massage is the common 'introductory' technique for people who have never experienced massage before.

hot stone massage. sometimes done in combination with other types of massage, particularly swedish, this technique involves laying smooth stones heated to slightly over 100 degrees on shoulders and back muscles to increase circulation and promote relaxation. the therapist might also apply light pressure to the stones to enhance their effect.

thai massage. although it originated in india, this form of massage achieved its greatest popularity in nearby thailand, hence its name. considered one of the most 'energizing' of massage styles, it involves the therapist moving and stretching the client into a series of yoga-like positions. the practitioner often pulls the client's toes, fingers, ears, etc, as well as cracks knuckles and walks on the client's back. a typical thai massage session lasts anywhere from one to two hours.

reflexology. originated in china, reflexology is a form of foot massage that involves applying pressure to points on the feet that practitioners believe are associated with specific organs of the body. the theory is that by stimulating these areas of the feet, one can promote better health overall. while the medical benefits of reflexology have never been clinically proven, there's little question that a reflexology massage can often relieve foot pain as well as be a very relaxing and pleasurable experience.

deep tissue massage. this type of massage is targeted at muscles that have been strained or are related to chronic pain or posture problems. the therapist targets deep layers of muscles and connective tissue by using short strokes and intense pressure. it's not uncommon for clients to feel sore for several days after such a deep tissue massage session, but the benefits can be well worth it.

shiatsu. a japanese specialty, this technique involves using fingers and thumbs to apply pressure to acupuncture / acupressure points to relieve stress and pain. although more intense than a traditional swedish massage, shiatsu can actually be quite relaxing, without the residual soreness of a deep tissue massage.

Ann007
02-26-14, 05:39
Hi all,

Last week I was in Beijing and I found a great massage service called Beijing Ann's 24 hours massage and health care center.

They offer the most professional massage service I ever had and they really take care of your health.

The girls are beautiful, warm and sexy and they speak good English.

They offer in and outcall service.

Sxyman
05-11-14, 20:51
Has anyone tried a UV / Ultraviolet massage?

I read about it on a website, there's a tantra / massage shop doing this in germany apparently.

Wondering if it's done elsewhere, if it's safe to do, and if anyone tried it, if it's worth doing.

From what I have read, you stay in the dark, you can't really see the masseuse.

(translated) After you get a back massage, U-turn and give each other massages with uv paint. Little by little you will be able to see your lady. Then you take a shower together at the end.

Thanks.

Nola Kenner
07-15-14, 17:26
Has anyone tried a UV / Ultraviolet massage?

I read about it on a website, there's a tantra / massage shop doing this in germany apparently.

Wondering if it's done elsewhere, if it's safe to do, and if anyone tried it, if it's worth doing.

From what I have read, you stay in the dark, you can't really see the masseuse.

(translated) After you get a back massage, U-turn and give each other massages with uv paint. Little by little you will be able to see your lady. Then you take a shower together at the end.

Thanks.I am not sure about the UV massage. It may just be a gimmick. I have got an infra-red massage before but it was just infra red lamp to warm up a particular area of my back that was hurting.

SunRider101
10-22-14, 21:35
Has anyone tried a UV / Ultraviolet massage?

I read about it on a website, there's a tantra / massage shop doing this in germany apparently.

Wondering if it's done elsewhere, if it's safe to do, and if anyone tried it, if it's worth doing.

From what I have read, you stay in the dark, you can't really see the masseuse.

(translated) After you get a back massage, U-turn and give each other massages with uv paint. Little by little you will be able to see your lady. Then you take a shower together at the end.

ThanksIf this is a true UV massage, you are making doctors very happy by trying to get skin cancers yourself.

Snow1998
12-22-14, 16:34
Having stumbled upon this http://www.hegre-art.com/massage/first-time-erotic-massage some time back. I have a full collection of these videos now. I've used these similar techniques after watching the videos on my regular GF and her orgasms are very intense. It usually takes a bit of doing to make her climax but having her watch the videos while I do the same to her has her squirming away in no time. She does the same to me copying the techniques portrayed in the Lingham massage series and boy our sex life has escalated to a new height using these massage videos.

Marco81
12-25-14, 15:27
Having stumbled upon this http://www.hegre-art.com/massage/first-time-erotic-massage some time back. I have a full collection of these videos now. I've used these similar techniques after watching the videos on my regular GF and her orgasms are very intense. It usually takes a bit of doing to make her climax but having her watch the videos while I do the same to her has her squirming away in no time. She does the same to me copying the techniques portrayed in the Lingham massage series and boy our sex life has escalated to a new height using these massage videos.Thank you for this tip Snow1998. I used it last night with a regular of mine and we had some very good intense fun.

The Old Teaboy
01-16-15, 13:54
I found this older masseuse in Colombo, Sri Lanka, who is having quite an emotional impact on me. I estimate her age as between 40 and 45, and she is a 6 in looks even though she is on the plump side. I ask her to spend most of the one hour massage time on massaging my balls and tickling my nipples. I feel very relaxed when with her and we chat quite a lot in the Sinhala language. Towards the end of the massage I ask her to put a finger in my anus. Although this is not a proper prostate massage, this helps to produce an explosive ejaculation.

On one occasion she agreed to let me give her oral. This involved her lifting up her saree and pulling down her panties, because the legal situation in Sri Lanka does not allow a masseuse to be nude. Her pussy was very wet, but she did not relax enough to get an orgasm. The next time I saw her she did not ask for oral.

I am reluctant to visit her too often because I feel I may be becoming emotionally dependent on her. At present I plan to visit her once every two weeks. I would be interested to know whether other members have experienced this kind of emotional impact from massage.

Member #4328
03-07-15, 14:27
I found this older masseuse in Colombo, Sri Lanka, who is having quite an emotional impact on me. I estimate her age as between 40 and 45, and she is a 6 in looks even though she is on the plump side. I ask her to spend most of the one hour massage time on massaging my balls and tickling my nipples. I feel very relaxed when with her and we chat quite a lot in the Sinhala language. Towards the end of the massage I ask her to put a finger in my anus. Although this is not a proper prostate massage, this helps to produce an explosive ejaculation.

On one occasion she agreed to let me give her oral. This involved her lifting up her saree and pulling down her panties, because the legal situation in Sri Lanka does not allow a masseuse to be nude. Her pussy was very wet, but she did not relax enough to get an orgasm. The next time I saw her she did not ask for oral.

I am reluctant to visit her too often because I feel I may be becoming emotionally dependent on her. At present I plan to visit her once every two weeks. I would be interested to know whether other members have experienced this kind of emotional impact from massage.I think you can certainly get attached to masseuses if you see them often enough. Massage and sex is a very powerful, spiritual experience. I see the same ladies but here and there. I see a lot of different ones so don't get attached. I think at times, although they are pros, they too can get attached, but less often than their customers.

FenceJumper
01-09-16, 11:18
Thank you for this tip Snow1998. I used it last night with a regular of mine and we had some very good intense fun.Thank you I have also copied many of the techniques shown in these vids with great success, which is fantastic for GFs or the odd random pick up. What I would really like to know is have any of you had succeed seducing a masseuse who is working in a legit premises & considers herself a non sexual therapist. I call this process getting them top jump the fence. I have had some success, but it has cost me a fortune.

In persevering with no eventual result. But I love the thrill of the chase. Some of my strategies have been to be always on time for apt, be recently showered & groomed with a small squirt of expensive cologne. I was make a non sleazy compliment on some aspect of their appearance. I always let them know I am enjoying their massage. I try to use their name when I am expressing pleasure they are giving me. If I push a boundary, & it is knocked back, I immediately back off for the rest of the massage. I cannot the number of knock backs & failures I've had, but those very rare occasions, when I have finally had a win, it is the best feeling in the world. Have any of you made a hobby of this practice? If so, what are some of your strategies & techniques?

FriendClient
06-17-16, 14:33
What nationalities do we prefer in the massage shops? I prefer European or Australian ladies. Currently though I have a light skinned Brazilian lady as my therapist. She is very pretty and and easy person to like. I previously had an Australian lady, very very pretty and we became friends in general, or so I thought. She moved to Brisbane to reconnect with an ex boyfriend. She said we would keep in touch, something she hasn't done yet and I don't think she will.

It's so easy to like like a massage therapist if you re-book her again and again.

Sevenup
03-06-17, 18:10
I've been in massage places in North America and Eastern Europe (Berlin, Prague. Kiev, Bucharest, Budapest). As someone else mentions in this thread, the satisfaction of a good massage with body rub and skilled HJ finish is sometimes much more erotic and satisfying than the quick fuck with a thick rubber. I have been deeply disappointed in North America (Canada and US) and deeply satisfied in Eastern Europe both price wise and service wise.

I am wondering, dear hobbiers, if you have similar experience, if I'm missing out on something, if you have a good hint of place I should try around the world? What are your favorite places, best quality for money, experiences of a lifetime?

ErnestCulpX
05-16-17, 11:27
I've been in massage places in North America and Eastern Europe (Berlin, Prague. Kiev, Bucharest, Budapest). As someone else mentions in this thread, the satisfaction of a good massage with body rub and skilled HJ finish is sometimes much more erotic and satisfying than the quick fuck with a thick rubber. I have been deeply disappointed in North America (Canada and US) and deeply satisfied in Eastern Europe both price wise and service wise.

I am wondering, dear hobbiers, if you have similar experience, if I'm missing out on something, if you have a good hint of place I should try around the world? What are your favorite places, best quality for money, experiences of a lifetime?I think that an erotic massage is essential to get sexual pleasure. Asian chicks are the best in this kind of massages, tantra massage is the best one, but it's advisable to get it done by someone skilled to enjoy it properly.

Redimax
05-29-17, 15:51
I think that an erotic massage is essential to get sexual pleasure. Asian chicks are the best in this kind of massages, tantra massage is the best one, but it's advisable to get it done by someone skilled to enjoy it properly.Best massage is Thailand. The stretching is awesome for sure, but the rest is bliss.

FriendClient
07-25-17, 01:50
Unless you are of at least basic tongue of the odd Asian languages, there is no hope a client would ever truly fully enjoy the massage session.

That's why I am selective and go with Australian, North / South American or even European therapists. At least they can speak English to a high standard. No chance of them using their lack of English to their advantage.

CeherBert12
09-26-17, 10:01
Erotic massages are something amazing. I have tried many a hands at a lot of places, and when I usually travel (which is quite often), it has been in Barcelona.

Oh my God! What hands and what an incredible experience with Nora! https://felinamassage.com/en/erotic-masseuses-barcelona/nora.

I was with her during these vacations and. Puffff I loved everything she did during the body-to-body massage. I loved the touch of her tits with my chest, especially the touch of her nipples.

Erotic massages are another amazing way of reaching the orgasm and they are quite addictive.

Member #4551
10-05-17, 18:51
I found this older masseuse in Colombo, Sri Lanka, who is having quite an emotional impact on me. I estimate her age as between 40 and 45, and she is a 6 in looks even though she is on the plump side. I ask her to spend most of the one hour massage time on massaging my balls and tickling my nipples. I feel very relaxed when with her and we chat quite a lot in the Sinhala language. Towards the end of the massage I ask her to put a finger in my anus. Although this is not a proper prostate massage, this helps to produce an explosive ejaculation.

On one occasion she agreed to let me give her oral. This involved her lifting up her saree and pulling down her panties, because the legal situation in Sri Lanka does not allow a masseuse to be nude. Her pussy was very wet, but she did not relax enough to get an orgasm. The next time I saw her she did not ask for oral.

I am reluctant to visit her too often because I feel I may be becoming emotionally dependent on her. At present I plan to visit her once every two weeks. I would be interested to know whether other members have experienced this kind of emotional impact from massage.Ooh yes. Struggling with the emotional impact right now. Been visiting a truly amazing Thai therapist in Dubai for 5-years. Nothing from her side to suggest we'll have anything more than customer / service provider relationship, even though I do get more bang for my buck than most others.

Prob now is, I spend hours thinking about her, and the awesome times in the spa.

To her, I'm sure it's just a job and money, but like all professions, you may have your favourite customers who you give a better service to, but reality chick is that private life remains just that.

FriendClient
12-03-17, 22:17
After a 2 month break from the industry, I am back and have a plan put in place.

Got to pay off my payment plan re: my fines.

I will then be on the look out for a sugar baby / daddy type situation with a Therapist in the massage industry, slowly does it, baby steps. First couple of bookings will be done to make sure she is the 1. Then we will go from there.

Mark it on your calendars for around February sometime for the industry to regain an elite client once more!

Swpc10
12-08-17, 12:09
Not much posting here.

But I was thinking, what I really like, is getting what might only be a legit massage, but then wondering and worked up to getting a happy ending. I think it is the anticipation and lack of knowing if it will happen or if it will not.

I had one last week. Legit massage in a hotel from a spa in the same complex. She had two sheets, one for the bed, one for draping. So maybe not. But after the flip, she worked the abs, and kept moving down. Then the thighs, and moving up. I was getting hard, and she noticed. Finally, I realized the sheet had slipped off and I was waving in the air. She asked if I wanted massage, and I said of course.

So she started with a slow HJ. I was stroking her. She then lifted her top and bra to give me access. And then I started stroking between her legs, and she undid her pants to give me access.

Still slow stroking. Until I finally had a MASSIVE orgasm.

That is what is best for me. .

AlanZ
01-25-18, 11:25
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Rog123
03-21-18, 17:51
I just saw this thread and saw some people get off on trying to get happy endings from legitimate massage therapists. Stop it. I have some good friends in this business and this is the worst part of thier jobs when some guy gets creepy and gets a hard on during a therapeutic massage. Therapeutic massage has nothing to do with sensual massage. There are plenty of women out there that provide sensual release so don't be a creep and try to get more from a normal masseuse. It's just the two of you and you are putting the lady in a real uncomfortable situation. Are you going to whip your dick out in front of your female chiropractor? This is no different.

Engine Driver
03-22-18, 00:43
I just saw this thread and saw some people get off on trying to get happy endings from legitimate massage therapists. Stop it. I have some good friends in this business and this is the worst part of thier jobs when some guy gets creepy and gets a hard on during a therapeutic massage. Therapeutic massage has nothing to do with sensual massage. There are plenty of women out there that provide sensual release so don't be a creep and try to get more from a normal masseuse. It's just the two of you and you are putting the lady in a real uncomfortable situation. Are you going to whip your dick out in front of your female chiropractor? This is no different.An uncontrolled erection during a legit massage is normal. Most professional massage therapists will know how to deal with it without making a fuss. An inadvertent erection doesn't mean the guy is creepy. It's a normal human response. So best if you stopped preaching.

Swpc10
04-22-18, 01:32
I just saw this thread and saw some people get off on trying to get happy endings from legitimate massage therapists. Stop it. I have some good friends in this business and this is the worst part of thier jobs when some guy gets creepy and gets a hard on during a therapeutic massage. Therapeutic massage has nothing to do with sensual massage. There are plenty of women out there that provide sensual release so don't be a creep and try to get more from a normal masseuse. It's just the two of you and you are putting the lady in a real uncomfortable situation. Are you going to whip your dick out in front of your female chiropractor? This is no different.What I was talking about it a basically legitimate massage, where the masseuse offers more. Typically by massaging closer and closer, then actually light, almost accidental type touches. Then she moves on to a full on stroking, or asks if you want more.

In the case I mentioned, the sheet did slip off, but if she had put it back over, I would have been happy with just the good massage. And the hard on, was the response to her already touching beyond a legitimate massage.

I have had completely legitimate massages without any draping. Nothing extra was touched, and no offers were made. And I had a good massage, ONLY.

Sofiy
05-16-19, 16:13
I've been in massage places in North America and Eastern Europe (Berlin, Prague. Kiev, Bucharest, Budapest). As someone else mentions in this thread, the satisfaction of a good massage with body rub and skilled HJ finish is sometimes much more erotic and satisfying than the quick fuck with a thick rubber. I have been deeply disappointed in North America (Canada and US) and deeply satisfied in Eastern Europe both price wise and service wise.

I am wondering, dear hobbiers, if you have similar experience, if I'm missing out on something, if you have a good hint of place I should try around the world? What are your favorite places, best quality for money, experiences of a lifetime?I too love getting a good HJ massage.

Thailand / Asia. In general they are very easy to find in Bangkok, Phuket, Pattaya, but also in all major cities in Asia including China, Vietnam, etc.

But in general, the girl is clothed, you can't really touch as much as you'd like to, and that's it. They are okay, but not great. Prices are usually around $30 for an hour. Easy to find in red light districts where all the masseuses look like hookers standing outside of the "spa."

Ukraine. So far the best I've found. The girls are completely naked. You can touch all you want. Some girls also allow touching their pussy or even fingering. Prices range from as low as $17 for 30 minutes, to $25 an hour for one orgasm. Best of all, you can find places on Google Maps by searching "Erotic Massage".

Anywhere else in the world that is better experience wise or value than Ukraine? I'd love to know but I doubt it exists.

MaleGgigolo
07-03-19, 20:49
I too love getting a good HJ massage.

Thailand / Asia. In general they are very easy to find in Bangkok, Phuket, Pattaya, but also in all major cities in Asia including China, Vietnam, etc.

But in general, the girl is clothed, you can't really touch as much as you'd like to, and that's it. They are okay, but not great. Prices are usually around $30 for an hour. Easy to find in red light districts where all the masseuses look like hookers standing outside of the "spa."

Ukraine. So far the best I've found. The girls are completely naked. You can touch all you want. Some girls also allow touching their pussy or even fingering. Prices range from as low as $17 for 30 minutes, to $25 an hour for one orgasm. Best of all, you can find places on Google Maps by searching "Erotic Massage".

Anywhere else in the world that is better experience wise or value than Ukraine? I'd love to know but I doubt it exists.Come to Mumbai (India) them PM me. Will help you out, Amazing massages and HJ Blowjob with CIM. Maximum you spend is around $40. There are places that are more expensive but if you need only a BJ. Then.

DamonBlack
10-06-19, 01:41
Which country have you guys had the best experiences with massages so far?

Guma00
03-09-20, 05:04
Come to Mumbai (India) them PM me. Will help you out, Amazing massages and HJ Blowjob with CIM. Maximum you spend is around $40. There are places that are more expensive but if you need only a BJ. Then.Thanks so much for your PM bro, tried replying but your inbox is full. Could you share in Andheri area and up north? Will be highly obliged.

Gamer76
05-15-20, 05:21
Which country have you guys had the best experiences with massages so far?Thailand would be at the top for me.

Macron
05-28-20, 11:37
Which country have you guys had the best experiences with massages so far?Thailand and Dubai is the best in this aspect. Thailand first any given day. The reason being in other spots their would always be this lingering thought of being busted by LE right in middle of the session which is not there in Thailand. Sex capital for right reasons.

Sky Ryder
10-11-20, 22:58
I know that rarely does what you can see on a video actually exists in "real life". I've never traveled to Japan, but will do so for an extended stay soon, I will ask this question. I've seen some Japanese videos that look like they are just filmed actual events, no props, not super hot girls, just a guy blindfolded getting a spectacular oil massage and complete service. This is something I would really like to see if exists. I know that foreigners are walled off from a lot of local services in Japan, but it doesn't hurt to ask and see what is possible. If anyone has any experiences to share along these lines, thanks in advance for your time and efforts.

Sky.

Steve Ohh
10-11-20, 23:13
Which country have you guys had the best experiences with massages so far?Thailand is on top.

Others are Czech Republic, Germany, Colombia, Philippines, Vietnam.

FiddyCent
10-12-20, 01:57
Thailand is on top.

Others are Czech Republic, Germany, Colombia, Philippines, Vietnam.Yes, I agree Steve Ohh. Thailand is #1. I also tried Czech Republic, of course, and Vietnam. You could also add Macau. There was a girl that was super horny and had amazing techniques. She just stimulated all the right areas. She said she really liked me. We negotiated sex on the spot. What surprised me was she just jumped on my oily bone and we had bareback FS. Also, at FN in Macau, I paid for a two girl soapy massage and sex session. Yes, it was expensive, but it was an amazing experience. Try Macau.

FiddyCent.

MickeyDuck1208
01-05-21, 13:14
Which country have you guys had the best experiences with massages so far?Language is a barrier but there are a couple of places (called "Anma"s I guess) that let foreigners. The ritual of shower / bath, massage / sex, and shower / bath is quite unlike anything else.

Massage, yeah Bangkok and Bali have been the best. Dubai has a lot of fakes and honeytraps.

NicFrenchy
01-05-21, 14:33
Which country have you guys had the best experiences with massages so far?Thailand is one of the top, I think India isn't far behind. Turkey and Japan follow after that.

Xpartan
01-29-21, 07:09
The best tantric adventures of my life have been in Hamburg and Siem Reap of all places. Oh, and I'll always remember that older Chinese lady in my friendly Brooklyn parlor that did something magical to my dick. Not tantric, but I still landed on the Moon.

Mystical Gun
02-08-21, 21:15
Hi guys, I'm planning a big mongering trip when Corona will be over and we will travel abroad again. I need your opinion to understand my options, considering what I'm looking for.

- What I'm looking for: erotic massages of course. Asian and non-asian (western, african, every kind). Been an asian fan for a long time, now I'm tired of chinese and would consider it only with young and beautiful girls. I'm exploring thai massage but still only with young ones. Open to western and ebony masseuses.

- What kind of massage? It can be a professional massage with happy ending, or an oil erotic massage, or a body on body massage. What is really important for me is atmosphere and not a mecanic and boring service.

My previous experiences: it can ben useful to understand what I'm looking for and also help someone who's planing a trip in those cities:

- Vienna: bad experiences with massage parlors, but I've tried only chinese ones. Maybe I need to explore more, but my idea is that Vienna is rather made for sex studios.

- Munich: bad experiences in thai and chinese parlors, always ugly and old masseuses and zero atmosphere. It was better in the western parlors, but not been in many.

- Bruxelles: very good experiences in some asian parlors, but last time I went it seems that something has changed. Haven't tried western ones.

- Venice (Italy): mixed experiences, if you go to Mestre (the industrial part of Venice, on the land) you can find lots of chinese parlors and some are de facto brothels. Heard that Milan is a great place for that, but never been there.

- Frankfurt: best place. Chinese parlors are the worst, but thai parlors are a gold mine. Find lots of professional ones with young or good girls that gives he. Most of all the city is full of western parlors which aren't expensive and offers good masseuses.

So. Given that. What do you thing could be the best city in Europe for a pleasure trip with many erotic massages, young masseuses, plenty of atmophere and all the possibile ethnicities?

Thanks in advance.

Mombie75
02-08-21, 22:00
Mombasa at the beach has great massages. One hour full body $10-15. Best I've had followed by Thailand.

Extras depends on the girl, can be there for a hand job 9 r BJ or m9 re back to your room.

ThreeOhThree
02-09-21, 14:37
If you are interested in European, Budapest is pretty good. A number of massage places, girls typically young and slim, Hungarian or Eastern Europe. Price is pretty decent too. There are a number of places that advertise online and you can see what they offer. I've had a number of experiences, never full service, and some girls will allow more touching, etc. Kind of hard to find other ethnicities. There are Thai and a few Chinese, but it is mostly Eastern Europe.

So. Given that. What do you thing could be the best city in Europe for a pleasure trip with many erotic massages, young masseuses, plenty of atmosphere and all the possible ethnicities?

ManicGuy
02-09-21, 20:00
Thailand is one of the top, I think India isn't far behind. Turkey and Japan follow after that.Totally agree with you sorted by quality.

Rb Gc
07-01-21, 11:45
This is a great post! I would like to bring it up as it's still applicable in many parts of the world. I hope it initiates some new posts on the topic.

Kudos to Worf1972!


Tips for going to AMPs see below:

USTraveller
Senior Member

Here's are some tips and etiquette for you AMP/Spa Visitors looking for extras or for first time visitors. I'm one who prefers the AMPs to the other options because they seem to provide a safe and relaxing environment. I wanted to share some general information in a number of sections and decided to do it here instead as more people are likely to view it and add on. I hope this can help any newbies to AMPs or jog the memory of AMP experts to dish out some tips of their own.

1) Become a Repeat Customer - This seems to be the number one factor. The providers want to make sure you are "not a cop" and once they are comfortable that you aren't, they will more than likely provide extras.

2) Fake Being a Repeat Customer - If you haven't been to a particular place before, act like you have been. Get information about them in the forums for the cities you plan on visiting, or your home town. Find out the going rates for HJ, BJ, FS etc. and have the money handy. Even a little comment during the Table Shower or Sauna such as "this is my favorite part" or something along those lines will make them think you were there before.

3) Get a Business Card - Some AMPs have business cards so you can ask for one on your way out. I have the girls write their name on them so I didn't forget and I could "ask" for them when I go back. Even if they weren't there on my visit, it showed the new provider or mama-san that I was there before...