Viagra

[Master Diver]

Does anyone have any experience with astrogel?

[LaCatChaser]

Clinically different from Viagra, Cialis, etc. But still should work on men with blood flow issues. 40mg of Vasomax is a full dose, so those of you that aren't blood flow impaired but want some "help" should halve the dose. Think of 40mg of Vasomax as similar to 100mg of Viagra.

[It Travel]

Clinically different from Viagra, Cialis, etc. But still should work on men with blood flow issues. 40mg of Vasomax is a full dose, so those of you that aren't blood flow impaired but want some "help" should halve the dose. Think of 40mg of Vasomax as similar to 100mg of Viagra.


I think I will stay with Cialis and Levitra....

IT

[Puzzo]

Hello all,

Can anyone make a recent recommendation of an online pharm for delivery to the US?

Preparing for trip to Brazil in the very near future.
http://www.valuepharmaceuticals.com/default.html

[El Frances]

Hello!

I'd be glad to get some information on cialis and generics in thailand (availability, price, quality of generics...)
Thanks

[Caiguy]

I have an upcoming FKK tour next week, my first, and want to make sure that I keep it hard enough through the several sessions per day I have planned (I'm in my 30s, at around 70kg/160lb, only past ED issues were realted to boredom with an ex). Does anyone have any advice on whether I should start off with a Cialis before my first visit, or instead take one, or a Viagra instead, once I notice some problems, as needed (pills are real, not generics). I haven't tried either before so any opinions on whether this is the time to start would be appreciated. Also, I can only get V and C in 50 mg, not smaller doses - is cutting recommended, as I noticed previous posts mostly calling for 20 mg of Cialis or 25 of Viagra.

Thanks!

[Euroknight]

I read that this amazonian plant, Muira Puama, is used as a natural remedy against secondary impotence, i.e. the occasional lack of erection. Has anybody tested it?
Many thanks in advance

[Harry Dude]

Cutting is definitely recommended! 50mg of V is way too much for an otherwise healthy young male. Try 25mg of V.


I have an upcoming FKK tour next week, my first, and want to make sure that I keep it hard enough through the several sessions per day I have planned (I'm in my 30s, at around 70kg/160lb, only past ED issues were realted to boredom with an ex). Does anyone have any advice on whether I should start off with a Cialis before my first visit, or instead take one, or a Viagra instead, once I notice some problems, as needed (pills are real, not generics). I haven't tried either before so any opinions on whether this is the time to start would be appreciated. Also, I can only get V and C in 50 mg, not smaller doses - is cutting recommended, as I noticed previous posts mostly calling for 20 mg of Cialis or 25 of Viagra.
Thanks!

[Randy O]

I have a feeling this is a really stupid question but having never been to Singapore, "Can I buy Viagra or Cialis over the counter? Surely, if I can't get it in Singapore than I could try somewhere pretty close, like Batum? I don't know, but I'm on my way to Sumatra not Malaysia.

I am so used to going to Thailand once a year and picking up a two boxes of Cialis there easily. Yes, 8 pills to last me an entire year. I just crumble about an 8th of one pill and drink a lot of juice. That will do it for me. Otherwise it makes my face beet red.

In the event that someone has first hand knowledge of pharmacies in Singapore, I woujld also like to know if Xanax can also be purchased. I hate staying up all night / plus this is my way of quickly adjusting to a new time zone. I just take a xanax at the normal sleeping time, and the next day I am back on track.

Any advise is appreciated. Thanks

[Epicurean]

Will you please share your experience with the natural stuff.

Can Admin start a new thread "Natural Stuff"

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/search.php?searchid=2927381

Has any one used this skyfruit.

[Tungurahua]

synopsis: an experiment with vitamin c, 3 days, 5 chicas, 7 fichas … and counting.

stan lee, the genius behind marvel comics, once said to attract new readers one has to put in references to past issues throughout new stories. for context of this post it thus becomes necessary to summarize the past.

in the span of eighteen months while adventuring through the countries of south america i have been sampling the sex-candies of major cities. to reflect: my isg exploits started in quito in april through september of 2006, moved on to la paz in dec/06, buenos aires apr-may/07, asuncion june/07, rio de janeiro july-aug/07, and lima in oct/07.

as a hardcore sub-$20us budget mongerer quito ($6.50-$20us) and rio de janeiro ($5-15us) were brilliantly explosive. for inexpensive, quality girls rio is everything quito is -- taken to a higher, unmatched level of intensity because of the spectacular landscaping and playground that is rio. while la paz holds the south american record for cheapest fucks starting at $2.50us chica quality sorely lacks. i loved buenos aires for everything but mongering, primarily due to a conflict with expensive pricing ($20us+) for its quality girls. asuncion is a city of cheap sex-apartments (up to $20us), decent for a week or two.

lima, unfortunately, came after epic rio de janeiro. as i have hit several major south american markets consecutively, not as independent 1-3 week vacations, a heavier judgement is inevitable. lima, as a step-down from rio in environment and market quality, saw an initial blip of recognition then quickly fizzled out into what i call “sex saturation.”

that is, after eighteen months of pursuing sexual activities, after an estimated 120 women and 250 sessions across the continent (i have yet to do a final south american tally), after many mind-blowing adventures in the sack, by the time i got to lima’s selection of girls my ‘tolerance level’ for sexual stimulation at inexpensive prices could no longer be breached.

mirroring lima my return to quito saw an initial pop in activity then gently fizzled out. there were hot targets i wanted to hit but little-tung was being very finicky. in a sex-saturated state at 100%, occasionally dipping down to 99% & 98%, the random chica could be mounted but this was hardly a mind-blowing experience to write about. literally and figuratively, in body and spirit, i was ‘limping’ along. the spikes of ecstasy had flatlined.

i thought to myself: here i am in my favorite market, a place i know like the back of my hand, already pre-paid a hotel room for a month, preparing a return home within six months (after columbia), and i am struggling to enjoy my time here. it is time to take the experiment one step further.

at this time i extend a hearty thank you to all isgers who posted information and experiences with viagra, cialis and levitra. i read the last sixty pages of the viagra-board, made notes, stewed the potential results and side-effects in my mind, then followed globetrotter’s lead into fybeca pharmacy to buy a single 20mg pill of cialis for $9.36us. this was monday afternoon.

i used the rest of monday to completely rehydrate after beers on sunday, eat three good meals, have a good night’s rest.

for a background into the physical i am in my mid-thirties and in good shape. fucking at 2850 meters in quito or 4150 meters in el alto (la paz), or climbing a 5900 meter volcano, does not phase me. i have no medical problems / history. i thought if anyone has a good chance of successfully pulling an experiment like this off with minimal side-effects it is me.

but that didn’t take away the butterflies in my stomach or the sweaty palms on tuesday morning: “i haven’t had this much anxiety about a drug since my first tab of lsd.”

i woke at 9:30am. at 10am i popped two aspirin to minimize potential head and/or muscle aches. at 10:30am i did leg and body stretches to loosen up my muscles. showered, shaved. at 11:30am i ate a sandwhich to slow down the rate of cialis absorpion, easing the drug into my system, in the hope of lessening a sharp ‘hit’ of potential negative effects. cutting the pill in half, at 12:41pm i swallowed 10mg. nothing. at 1:36pm i swallowed the second 10mg. nothing. hmmmm.

decided i need some stimulation. made my way over to touch me, one of my favorite fuckclubs in quito. for newer readers this is a $7us (or 700 pennies) chongo where some thirty or forty girls stand around in a squished 10 x 40 foot room wearing bits of clothing. the local boys can be pretty rough looking. it’s a raw place to fuck.

not wanting to mix alcohol with cialis on the first day i nursed a bottle of water while watching the selection of girls coming and going. still no reaction. spotted a girl i nailed a couple times in 2006. a few more pounds but still petite. her best asset is a big set of jiggly juggs on a small frame. yes, violetta will do. paid her 700 pennies and up the stairs we went.

we stripped down. small talk and laughs. i am on my back, naked, she’s preparing for a preliminary cbj, still no reaction. hmmm. this is weird. into her mouth goes little-tung …

whoa. he’s stiff all right. a few days before i was losing stiffness from the seconds of change between mouth and pussy. not today. hard for the duration, between all position changes, ramming her in flat-doggie while groping big titties to spurt my lovin’ into her fuckhole.

it immediately struck me how this drug works. it truly is a cock on command, not a perma-woodie. as one member writes “it’s like you never took anything at all ... until it comes time to perform.” the drug does not stoke the fires of desire; that is it does not make you more horny. it plays on the desire you possess at the time. if your fuel guage of desire is raging expect harder results. if, however, sex-saturation is an issue like it is with me, with the fuel guage of desire lower, maximizing that last 1-2%, expect the results to be more subtle.

after a light meal of soup and vegetables i went for a second session with a hot wench, deborah, 20 years young, 800 pennies. with her on my lap i was briefly hard as we small talked. in private hardness was no problem at all. second orgasm attained by 5:30pm.

at 6:35pm i noted my left shoulder / arm aching. popped two more aspirin.

a third chica was mounted by 7:41pm, tiny magali, 21 years young, re-found in amorcito, 800 pennies a squirt. by this time i was impressed. three squirts in less than six hours.

as it was only 8pm i went looking for a record fourth eruption. once again, just like in 2006, i was thwarted. the three quality chicas i found in various clubs were being monopolized by groups of talkative, drunk guys. my biggest pet peeve of mongering.

nonetheless the day was a huge success.

wednesday i found a sweet treat, a 9teenie named danielle. she is exactly what i look for in the clubs. super-petite, perfect tight ass, flat tummy, small breasts, hairstyle framing her cute face. maybe 85 to 90 pounds.

with the half life of cialis at 17.5 hours i was curious to see if it would still be working. the question was promptly settled: yes. her gorgeous little body had me rock hard for an easy shot of love.

three hours later i nailed maoly, 20 years young, in touch me. i had long seen her in guajira for $15 but passed. for 700 pennies, however, she was worth a spin (no orgasm).

thursday (today) was a second round with dynamite danielle in the early aft (orgasm), with a return to deborah later in the afternoon (orgasm).

thus in three days: seven fuck sessions with five chicas. considering a few days earlier i could barely get blood flowing the conclusion if cialis works for me is a resounding yes. popping two aspirin at eight hour intervals twice a day negates all side-effects.

an additional bonus to this is mongering with no alcohol. i wrote: “during a walk between sessions i said to myself i should get a meal for later to soak up tomorrow’s hangover, then realized to my astonishment i haven’t had a single alcohol drink today. all water and pop.”

in 2006 as a newbie-monger i initially needed alcohol to overcome inhibitions, unleashing years of pent-up raging sexual desire. as a tool to remove any and all doubts it empowered me with a cock of steel. lately, however, alcohol has had the opposite effect: making me ill (constant hangovers, headaches, beershits), suppressing appetite for food, stalling sexual performance, always driving up expenses -- essentially depressing me. now as a completely sober monger for the first time in months i feel healthy, my appetite returns.

a new age dawns in quito ...

(cross-posted to the quito-ecuador board)
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[El Frances]

self-answer to my first post after looking at other forums
cialis should be available for 2000 THB for 4*20g
apcialis for 500 THB same quantity
For whom it may be usefull

[Penn Teller]

Hello all,

Can anyone make a recent recommendation of an online pharm for delivery to the US?

Preparing for trip to Brazil in the very near future.www.usolinerx.net is a good place

[Undercoverh]

I took Cialis two weeks ago and for 3 days I had a bad headache. I called in sick to work for one day. During my trip to TJ, I banged 7 women in 2 days, but the bad headache is not worth it.

[Go Fkk Go]

Hi,

I am going to FKK again, I got few Cialis (2X20mg). Can anyone tell me, should I cut it half (10mg). I never take this before (nor V), I am only 148lbs. Any help will appreciated.

[Puzzo]

Hi,

I am going to FKK again, I got few Cialis (2X20mg). Can anyone tell me, should I cut it half (10mg). I never take this before (nor V), I am only 148lbs. Any help will appreciated.Always cut the 20mg into 10mg.

[Mack1964]

Hello all,

Can anyone make a recent recommendation of an online pharm for delivery to the US?

Preparing for trip to Brazil in the very near future.I found a good one from here www.straightmansweb.com

I've been happy with them, very reliable.

[Flyboy 2000]

I'm in Australia and looking to stock up on some V and C -- can get a doctor's prescription to make it legal, but that also makes it bloody expensive!

I'll be in the US on business on Jan 14-15-16, and then in London on Feb 4 and Feb 5, so am thinking of having some ordered online and delivered to my hotel at either of those locations.

Given that the online suppliers seem to be outside the US, is it 'easier' for these deliveries to come into the USA or UK?

(If the former, I'd consider a good Canadian online pharm if someone can recommend one, if their delivery timeframe to the US west coast is around one week).

[Kiwi 69]

I'm in Australia and looking to stock up on some V and C -- can get a doctor's prescription to make it legal, but that also makes it bloody expensive!

I'll be in the US on business on Jan 14-15-16, and then in London on Feb 4 and Feb 5, so am thinking of having some ordered online and delivered to my hotel at either of those locations.

Given that the online suppliers seem to be outside the US, is it 'easier' for these deliveries to come into the USA or UK?

(If the former, I'd consider a good Canadian online pharm if someone can recommend one, if their delivery timeframe to the US west coast is around one week).I had good service from www.365pharmacy.co.uk in England, overnight delivery and they seem to have competitive prices. Read back in the thread for comments ,re offshore suppliers,some seem pretty flakey.

[Player2]

Hi Guys :

I take scotch and than before sex I take 1/2 pill of 100 mg viagra, my heart beats faster than usual. Is it common or should I worried about it?
I am in my early fourties in failry good health and little bit on the heavier side.

Look forward to hear your input.

Regards to all.
Player2

[Member #3428]

I had good service from www.365pharmacy.co.uk in England, overnight delivery and they seem to have competitive prices. Read back in the thread for comments ,re offshore suppliers,some seem pretty flakey.

Guess it varries as I had terrible service from them. Would not use them again ever.

[NSA Cruzer]

I'm in Australia and looking to stock up on some V and C -- can get a doctor's prescription to make it legal, but that also makes it bloody expensive!

I'll be in the US on business on Jan 14-15-16, and then in London on Feb 4 and Feb 5, so am thinking of having some ordered online and delivered to my hotel at either of those locations.

Given that the online suppliers seem to be outside the US, is it 'easier' for these deliveries to come into the USA or UK?

(If the former, I'd consider a good Canadian online pharm if someone can recommend one, if their delivery timeframe to the US west coast is around one week).Hi,

I have Viagra and Cialis is sample packs straight from Pfizer and Lilly. I am located in Melbourne but can post interstate. Please message me if you are interested.

Thanks

NSA Cruzer

[Asian Rain]

Can anyone make a recent recommendation of an online pharm for delivery to the US?
Try ED Selection (www.edselection.com/?wm=4183&tr=8001). They specialize only in ED drugs. Very reliable, delivers everywhere and very cheap on generic cialis or viagra. I know people from US and Europe who have used them with no problem. I recommend the soft type Cialis for performance and price. "Soft type" Cialis melts under your tongue, takes effect within 10min, lasts for 36 hours and can be taken with alcohol/fatty foods. Fucking awesome stuff. Enjoy, AsianRain

[Mchmens]

Guess it varries as I had terrible service from them. Would not use them again ever.What actually happened did you get your order in the end how long did it take and was thier medicine any good.

[Member #3428]

What actually happened did you get your order in the end how long did it take and was thier medicine any good.

Sent to the wrong address, returned to them about two times, they couldn't write out a proper address label, ended up shipping to another location and forwarding from there, non responsive on emails, once they get the CC info they could care less, ended up talking to the owner after talking to the girl proved worthless. Product was what you expect it to be, no question they sold proper product, just the actual abilities and service they provided was terrible. Ended up taking months to get everything sorted out, and when things were sorted out they had no stock so had to wait longer.

I'm not going to waste my time with them ever again. And I wouldn't trust them to fullfill and order if you are on a tight time table.

[Insideman]

Anyone know how I can get some V or C in Taipei? I know these websites do not send to Taiwan.

If anyone knows of any information on how to get some, please share.

[Redfield10]

If I buy Cialis in BKK, is it legal to take it into Cambodia?

I will be visiting both BKk and then going to Siem Reap and also PP...just don't want to get into trouble at Customs (haven't bought Cialis or Viagra before, but want to try in BKK this time).

Thanks for the help guys.

[Puzzo]

Anyone know how I can get some V or C in Taipei? I know these websites do not send to Taiwan.

If anyone knows of any information on how to get some, please share.Hello insideman,

I use this pharmacy online http://www.valuepharmaceuticals.com/default.html.

Good service out of Fiji.

[Wanking]

www.usolinerx.net is a good placeI received brand Cialis from this company yesterday. Ive never used Cialis before, and dont really need it, but would like a bit of "Turbo Boost" if I can.

I'm off to Germany for a few days sexcation tomorrow, so Ill let you all know how it goes.

[It Travel]

Try ED Selection (www.edselection.com/?wm=4183&tr=8001). They specialize only in ED drugs. Very reliable, delivers everywhere and very cheap on generic cialis or viagra. I know people from US and Europe who have used them with no problem. I recommend the soft type Cialis for performance and price. "Soft type" Cialis melts under your tongue, takes effect within 10min, lasts for 36 hours and can be taken with alcohol/fatty foods. Fucking awesome stuff. Enjoy, AsianRain

I wonder how they can get such price.... a box of original Lilly's Cialis 20 mg (4 pills) costs around Europe (prescription or not) around 60-90 USD, depending on place...

IT

I express some doubts...

[It Travel]

Always cut the 20mg into 10mg.

Buy 10 mg Cialis!

They are covered (coated) with some elements that will preserve more the active principle in your stomach!

Same for Viagra!

IT

[Fielder]

Try ED Selection (www.edselection.com/?wm=4183&tr=8001). They specialize only in ED drugs. Very reliable, delivers everywhere and very cheap on generic cialis or viagra. I know people from US and Europe who have used them with no problem. I recommend the soft type Cialis for performance and price. "Soft type" Cialis melts under your tongue, takes effect within 10min, lasts for 36 hours and can be taken with alcohol/fatty foods. Fucking awesome stuff. Enjoy, AsianRainHas any one first hand experience with this company?

Their prices are very good but what is the product like?

Some writers have commented that some Indian products are rubbish.

[Romano V]

What about L-arginine i think it's ok you increase your cumload and you have nice erection all is natural better than cyalis an viagra bu i never tried them because i am too young. You can take all you want in l-arginine it s less expensive than viagra, just test.

[Marlboro Red]

Has any one first hand experience with this company?

Their prices are very good but what is the product like?

Some writers have commented that some Indian products are rubbish.When I judge a website, I see if it is "customer service" friendly. I mean, the previous website does not even have a contact number on the front page! I am sure that there is a one, but if I have to hunt for it :-(

As for generic products, yes, there are some con men out there looking to sell you crap, but there are some good guys too. The trick is to stick with one company once you have got a working product and stick to it. I mean, the website I am using it a bit more expensive, but I am confident that it works and the stuff arrives. Why change for a few cents here and there!

[Sir Real]

Hello Gentlemen,

I have only been a member for a little while now and, to my great shame, all I have done is lurk. However, it doesn't help that I am trapped in the west coast of the sex prison aka the USA. Anyways, I thought I can finally contribute to this great forum by conducting a mail order experiment then reporting my results.

One day in the middle of January I ordered ED pills from the two leading online sites mentioned in TFF. At the 365pharmacy. Co. Uk site, I ordered 12 pills of generic V at a cost of $44. The site was easy to navigate and the ordering process was simple. The only hitch was a surprise shipping and handling fee. A few minutes later, I went on Usolinerx and ordered 10 gelcaps of 20 mg. Generic C at a cost of $65. I do not recall a shipping fee. Again, this site was easy to use and the order was placed with no problems. Another good feature about this company was that they had a toll free US customer service phone number. Now, the race was on.

The winner was. 365pharmacy. Exactly ten days after placing my order, I received a note from my P. O. To come in and sign for my package. When I picked it up, the royal mail envelope contained exactly what I ordered along with clear, easy to understand instructions. Four days after that, I received a small envelope sent from India in my mailbox. It looked like a personal letter but I do not know anyone in India, except for an old college roommate nearly twenty years ago. Inside this plain, small, and pink envelope was my generic C from Usolinerx and again, it contained instructions. However, this info was in really small type and some of you old-timers may need a magnifying glass to read it. Also, it was more technical and not as user friendly. This generic C was manufactured in India. I have never used generic ED pharmaceuticals before but I am very willing to find out how effective they are. Costa Rica. Here I come (pun definitely intended). Stay tuned for those field reports by the end of this month.

[Wanking]

Back from a recent trip to Germany, (report still due…been very busy). Bought Brand Cialis from www.usolinerx.net. Went for the 12 pills for €159.

Now I don’t have erectile problems but wanted to see could I boost what I already have. I have to say it worked a treat; my erections were noticeably stronger and longer. Also the effect lasted almost 48 hours.

I only took 1 pill for the duration of my 3-day trip. Meant to take one on the last day but actually forgot. I didn’t suffer any downsides but orgasms were harder to reach after the first 3 or 4 orgasms, so it wasn’t too bad. Best bit was having a causal semi erection at times between sessions when I normally would be flaccid.

Nice feeling walking around a sex club with an almost constant semi, makes u feel very macho.

Full trip report soon

[Americaan]

Hey mate,

Still wondering if the cialis or Viagra is still available?

[Undercoverh]

Try ED Selection (www.edselection.com/?wm=4183&tr=8001). They specialize only in ED drugs. Very reliable, delivers everywhere and very cheap on generic cialis or viagra. I know people from US and Europe who have used them with no problem. I recommend the soft type Cialis for performance and price. "Soft type" Cialis melts under your tongue, takes effect within 10min, lasts for 36 hours and can be taken with alcohol/fatty foods. Fucking awesome stuff. Enjoy, AsianRain


Thanks for the tip, great site!

[Enigma84]

Gentlemen,

As some of you may or may not know I am 23 yrs old and I have been suffering ED for awhile now. It made me very depressed since I am so young and yet for the pass 8 months I haven't been hard enough to sustain an erection. The most embarrassing was when I met this model from the Czech Rep. I so wanted to fuck her but I couldn't get it up.

I saw my doctor and he wants to run a couple of tests on me to see if there is something wrong with me.

He says if the test come back ok then he suspects it may be just pschological and if thats the case he may prescribe viagra or cialis to help get confidence back. I have never tried this before.

How hard will you get upon taking this drug? And how long can you last?

Thanks

[Haunted]

I; m 39, and only problem is noticing the difference b/w being 39 and 29. Still, for the hell of it I tried cialis, 10 mg.

Headaches like crazy, muscle pain (calves). The first night, the hardons were out of control, like if I stuck my hand in my pocket I would get hard. Way too much sensitivity for me, and the headaches are hard to deal witih. Ibuprofen or acetaminophen don't help. Well those are the negatives the postives, yeah, it's definitely up and hard way before cue. Bu ti don't know if an hour or two of sex is worth 12 hours of adverse effects.

This is my second time taking 10 mg. The first time I had no side effects, maybe a little tachypnea, tht was it.

[Marlboro Red]

For me, I noticed that it just last longer and it can keep it up longer.. In short, it was like when I was 15 again!!

I usually take some if I either have been out drinking or want ot go that extra mile :-)

Give how cheap they are, I don't really worry about cutting them to 3 or 4 segments!

[Thickdick]

Gentlemen,

As some of you may or may not know I am 23 yrs old and I have been suffering ED for awhile now. It made me very depressed since I am so young and yet for the pass 8 months I haven't been hard enough to sustain an erection. The most embarrassing was when I met this model from the Czech Rep. I so wanted to fuck her but I couldn't get it up.

I saw my doctor and he wants to run a couple of tests on me to see if there is something wrong with me.

He says if the test come back ok then he suspects it may be just pschological and if thats the case he may prescribe viagra or cialis to help get confidence back. I have never tried this before.

How hard will you get upon taking this drug? And how long can you last?

ThanksI am 25 and in the same boat as you.

I tried Aspire36 before (rumore has it that it is spiked with Tadalafil) and got the headaches, upset stomach, and muscle cramps in my calves, but no significant hard ons or anything like that.

Guess I'll have to try some full-blown Cialis next.

[Petemcc]

Guys

Up until 3 weeks ago I was totally against the use of these meds for those who don't really require them, and I swore that the day I had to use these drugs would be the day I give up sex.

I fully understood their use for those with ED, and of course fully supported that, I just didn't like young guys who didn't need it, abusing it.

Clearly in your cases, that is not the point and you do require it.

I used kamagra gel in Pattaya 3 weeks ago, basically because I was drinking from dawn to dusk, and although I had never before suffered brewer's droop, and actually didn't there, really, in actual fact I found I couldn't keep it up for as long, or have it as hard as usual.

I used half a pack of gel a go ( even though it says use all at once). It probably takes 5-15 minutes, and it's not like you get an instant erection, but as soon as there is sexual stimulation-a kiss, girl sitting on your knee, grabbing her arse etc...boing, you have a beautiful, stiff erection.

I am on meds for blood pressure ( not a problem with these ED drugs) and did not notice any side effects at all, other than having a boner all night, well, most of the night. I mean, it would go away, but when I gave my overnight rental a squeeze, or she cuddled me...boing, here we go.

It lasted at least 12 hours, that is not a 12 hour hard on, but when stimulated, a nice hard on.

Really, V and Kamagra are the same, and never having tried anything else, I cannot comment on the difference, only that with K gel I had no side effects and was a happy man.

Hope this helps.
Regards.

Petemcc

[Tercar 66]

I don't know how far this is true but as per Khaleej Times link below there are risks in using that product.

http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticleNew.asp?xfile=data/theworld/2007/October/theworld_October681.xml&section=theworld

There is new canadian product in UAE called Viagrx. I believe it is a canadian herbal product. Has any one tried it.

[Petemcc]

I have written many explanations about the actions of V and its cousins before, and I am not going to repeat myself. The news article may be mischievous in some ways as it says V dilates blood vessels. Yes, it does, but only in the penis.
Loads of drugs, like beta-blockers and ACE inhibitors dilate blood vessels body wide, but don't give you a raging erection. V etc will not treat high blood pressure, therefore it is not used to treat it, therefore it does not cause system wide vasodilation.
V and its cousins act very specifically, and are only contra indicated for those on Nitrate medications-those with angina.

For someone not on nitrates, the chances of a massive overdose of V etc causing a huge fall in blood pressure are pretty slim.

Had this not been in Thailand, one wonders if the fact that ED drugs were found beside him would have been reported. I have been to many sudden deaths, and people have cabinets full of drugs of all sorts.

It is all too easy these days to attribute a death to an OD, but sometimes, in fact usually, people die because their time is up, be that from a heart attack, stroke, or just old age.

I would honestly think that if anyone could prove any link between V and deaths, that Pfizer would be doing some serious damage limitations. However, I really think that they did their research and are pretty secure in the knowledge that V, for one, is as safe a drug as any drug can be.

Petemcc

[Marlboro Red]

I am 25 and in the same boat as you.

I tried Aspire36 before (rumore has it that it is spiked with Tadalafil) and got the headaches, upset stomach, and muscle cramps in my calves, but no significant hard ons or anything like that.

Guess I'll have to try some full-blown Cialis next.I know how you feel, as I was in the same boat. The doc said that there was nothing physically wrong with me, as I could still get it up while and jack off. It was that I just having trouble getting it working when it came to the real thing.

In the end, I decided to use some V to give me that extra boost when it came to the real thing. It could be that it was a placebo effect or what, but it really helped get my confidence back.

Now days, I still use some V, but only when I need the extra boost.

Have you tried the generic V stuff?

[Joe Boy]

Hi,

Has anyone used http://www.accessrx.com/?

I like that one can get the prescription through the site and have it shipped legally in the US. Do they really deliver?

Thanks,

Joe Boy

[Marlboro Red]

Hi,

Has anyone used http://www.accessrx.com/?

I like that one can get the prescription through the site and have it shipped legally in the US. Do they really deliver?

Thanks,

Joe BoyHi,

Nope never tried them. I always get mine at http://www.rx-mex.org/ as the do deliver to the US and UK :-)

[DFWdude]

Can anyone recommend a good provider of online ordering for Cialis? 20mg, one that ships to the US and where I can get the perscription online?

Thanks!

DD

[Puzzo]

Can anyone recommend a good provider of online ordering for Cialis? 20mg, one that ships to the US and where I can get the perscription online?

Thanks!

DDGood pharmacy online http://www.valuepharmaceuticals.com/default.html out of Fiji. I order the generic is the same as original but more cheap, for around $70 you get 12/20mg pills.I allways cut them in half.Hope this info.helps! P.S They use register mail it takes up to 2 weeks once you place your order.

[Mungo01]

Has any one tried viapro if so are there any side affects.

[Wanking]

What, take viagra and you pull babes like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp4yCkkCOOY

[Pheasantplucker]

Can anybody tell me if and where Viagra or Cialis is available in HongKong and / or the Philippines?

[Marlboro Red]

Hello,

Why don't you check out some of the on-line companies listed below. Most of them do ship to Asia.

I remember ordering stuff to arrive in SE Asia when I was there.

[Wanking]

This is from my report on PT Bremen in Germany:

"I took Cialis again for a little extra boost on this trip, and it worked a treat again just like on my last trip back in Jan. it’s the stuff I got from www.usolinerx.net In fact on day 1 during my second fuck, I was fucking one girl miss, and had another standing over her, and I was licking her ass. Both girls were pressuring me to cum fast so I started hammering it into the girl I was fucking, so much so that a crowd of guys, and the rest of the girls gathered around. When I felt myself near Cumming I pulled out, ripped off the condom and squirted all over the girls tits, very porn star style (think Ron Jeremy with a smaller cock). Without the Cialis I don’t think this would have been possible, as the crowd would have put me off."

Full report here:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=728924&postcount=2075

[OzzieSuds]

Can anybody tell me if and where Viagra or Cialis is available in HongKong and / or the Philippines?

I have bought genuine Cialis in Hong Kong. Go to a pharmacy and ask the pharmacist for it by its generic name - tadalafil.

Sorry I forgot the price there. I now buy it regularly in the pharmacies in Ho Chi Minh where it is about US$20 for 4 x 20 mg. I take one third of a pill at a time - don't need any more.

I would be surprised if you cannot get it the same way in the Philipines.

I have also got generic tadalafil in Bangkok for about $15 but don't bother since the real stuff is so cheap in Asia.

[Wazza88]

Can anybody tell me if and where Viagra or Cialis is available in HongKong and / or the Philippines?Hi PR,

Cialis/Viagra are available in The Philippines and I specifically refer to Angeles City. From the street vendor $4 for 4 tablets, the same thing from a drugstore $60. Caveat emptor applies.

Regards wazza.

[Firebird]

Can anybody tell me if and where Viagra or Cialis is available in HongKong and / or the Philippines?

In Hong Kong, Viagra and Cialis are readily available in the Pharmacy located at the Entrance to K Pressure in Jordan.
Look at the maps in the Hong Kong Forum - very easy to find. I am sure there are other pharmacies Hong Kong that also sell this but the one near K Pressure is one I always use.

[Royalflush]

I don't remember where I found the recommendation to use XLPharmacy, but I think it was in this site. Long story short: don't use these guys. I got ripped off and apparently a lot of other people have. Do a search on online pharmacy scams and XL is all over the place.

[Harry Dude]

Based on reports in this forum I gave www.edselection.com a try.

I ordered 20 generic cialis (tadalafil) soft tabs for USD79.95, plus USD30 in shipping.

After a few days I got a message on my cell phone from some call center, needing some more information on my order. They also said they had left me an email. I decided to check my email, which was from thjeir security department, they requested the last four digits of my Visa card plus a reson why my billing address did not match the shipping address. I responded to the email, ignored the voicemail, and about 10 days later I received an anonymous looking letter in my mail. The letter was postmarked India, and contained 20 Tadalafil softtabs, plus a sample pack of four generic 100mg sildenafil softtabs. Nice gesture.

The tablets were all packed in blisterpacks, and looked professional enough.

I was a little hesitant to try these out, but gave it a try last weekend. I took one of the tadalafil softtabs. Nothing really happened. I typically experience facial flushing with Levitra, but with this - nothing. Hence, I was not sure whether this stuff stuff actually worked before I hooked up with Andrea at FKK Palace in Frankfurt. However as soon as she touched me I had massive wood.

I spent a few hours at the club, performed flawlessly, and with no side effects from the tabs.

Highly recommended.

[KnickFan]

Hi Guys,

Some very encouraging accounts on here. Does anyone know of a
reputable online store that accepts Mastercards? I see stuff out there but they look shady.

[AColonizer]

Hi forumers,

I tried to get information by thread search "Levitra" but I did'nt find what is the difference between Cialis and Levitra? I read it is better to get that with a small alcohol dose, for me that sounds pretty strange. Help?

[Puzzo]

Hi Guys,

Some very encouraging accounts on here. Does anyone know of a
reputable online store that accepts Mastercards? I see stuff out there but they look shady.http://www.valuepharmaceuticals.com Good,reputable pharmacy in island of Fiji using registered mail it take up to two weeks once you place your order.

[It Travel]

Of course it's variating in various apothekas...

At 36 6 the write that you should have prescription but I do not know if they enforce that.

The prices is approx from 2.150 to 2.300 RUR, depending on place, in some even more.

I paid with Credit Cart (no surcharge) 2.230 in a normal apotheka (not a kiosk) last week.

Approx 61 Euro... each 4 x 20 box...

IT

[It Travel]

Hi forumers,

I tried to get information by thread search "Levitra" but I did'nt find what is the difference between Cialis and Levitra? I read it is better to get that with a small alcohol dose, for me that sounds pretty strange. Help?

No Alchool at all is good, but depending on you it's ok with a couple of beers not more!

There are differences, still did not try levitra.... but Cialis works very good, I'm going to my Fifties and in a eveing and the morning (but I'm not clubbing) I still manage to do my six shots!!! with the help of Cialis otherwise three..

IT

[Wanking]

Hi Guys,

Some very encouraging accounts on here. Does anyone know of a
reputable online store that accepts Mastercards? I see stuff out there but they look shady.www.usolinerx.net is the company I buy from, and they accept Mastercard. I only buy their brand Cialis, and find it good. Dunno if I would chance the generic.

[Member #4212]

Hi! Everyone,

I read whole thread and tried Forzest from Ranbaxy and it did work for me. I am 26. Can you guys suggest something, that helps me not to ejaculate for long while having sex? Something available in India. I tried Durex condoms(xtra time) but they dont work as they kill the erection.

[Carroll6]

Based on reports in this forum I gave www.edselection.com a try.

I ordered 20 generic cialis (tadalafil) soft tabs for USD79.95, plus USD30 in shipping.

After a few days I got a message on my cell phone from some call center, needing some more information on my order. They also said they had left me an email. I decided to check my email, which was from thjeir security department, they requested the last four digits of my Visa card plus a reson why my billing address did not match the shipping address. I responded to the email, ignored the voicemail, and about 10 days later I received an anonymous looking letter in my mail. The letter was postmarked India, and contained 20 Tadalafil softtabs, plus a sample pack of four generic 100mg sildenafil softtabs. Nice gesture.

The tablets were all packed in blisterpacks, and looked professional enough.

I was a little hesitant to try these out, but gave it a try last weekend. I took one of the tadalafil softtabs. Nothing really happened. I typically experience facial flushing with Levitra, but with this - nothing. Hence, I was not sure whether this stuff stuff actually worked before I hooked up with Andrea at FKK Palace in Frankfurt. However as soon as she touched me I had massive wood.

I spent a few hours at the club, performed flawlessly, and with no side effects from the tabs.

Highly recommended.I just ordered from them, CIALIS softtabs. $30 for the Courier shipping, and it was very, very fast to the USA. The product worked well. I never took Cialis before, and it is so smooth! There is no noticable effect, until you are stimulated, the erection very natural. Viagra makes my face flush and the results are sort of unpredictable. Levitra better than viagra. I am also taking Ogoplex. Prescription required by Edselection so that saved me going to the Dr. And asking for the 'scrip. I got ripped off by another company called "Canadian pharmacy" or something, turned out to be in russia, total rip they never sent the product. Edselection indeed is a fast, reliable place to get these products. I liked the Soft Cialis. It's sublingual. And melts under your tongue. Cheap price too, just like the others. Harry ain't lyin! The CIALIS works just like Harry says. At first you think maybe the stuff don't work. Then a little bit of stimulation and your body will respond well!

[Chocha Monger]

This is a very common aphrodasiac in the Caribbean and Central America. It makes you harder for longer. Women from these regions are well aware of what a man using black stone can do to their totties and will steer clear of those who use it. Its use is very popular among Rastafarians who pleasure European and North American women for a price. People also seem to be well aware that it shouldn't be ingested except for the guy from New York.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24797206/wid/11915773?GT1=31037

[Galaxzy]

A friend told me about China mop some people call it China brush. It is in most adult stores and sells for ten dollars. You simply brush it on the head of your penis with a thin layer. There is a little burn feeling a hour later and then you are ready for some long term action trust me.

[Johntha]

Can anyone tell me that viagra and cialis are allowed in Singapore and Malaysia.

Thanks

[Asian Rain]

I reported on EDSelection (www.edselection.com/?wm=4183&tr=8001) previously. Am pleased to see the very positive reports. Their generic Soft Cialis is the most popular product and so inexpensive because of the India-direct shipping model. EDSelection specializes only in ED drugs. The reports from Carroll6 and Harry Dude confirm that EDSelection (www.edselection.com/?wm=4183&tr=8001) delivers quality product at a value price to either USA or Europe. As mentioned by Harry Dude, they also give away 4 free Viagra pills with any order, so ED drug newbies can try both Cialis (my favorite) and Viagra. Enjoy, AsianRain


I just ordered from them, CIALIS softtabs. $30 for the Courier shipping, and it was very, very fast to the USA. The product worked well. I never took Cialis before, and it is so smooth! There is no noticable effect, until you are stimulated, the erection very natural. Edselection indeed is a fast, reliable place to get these products. I liked the Soft Cialis. It's sublingual. And melts under your tongue. Cheap price too, just like the others. Harry ain't lyin! The CIALIS works just like Harry says. At first you think maybe the stuff don't work. Then a little bit of stimulation and your body will respond well!

Based on reports in this forum I gave www.edselection.com (www.edselection.com/?wm=4183&tr=8001) a try.

I ordered 20 generic cialis (tadalafil) soft tabs for USD79.95, plus USD30 in shipping.

After a few days I got a message on my cell phone from some call center, needing some more information on my order. They also said they had left me an email. I decided to check my email, which was from thjeir security department, they requested the last four digits of my Visa card plus a reson why my billing address did not match the shipping address. I responded to the email, ignored the voicemail, and about 10 days later I received an anonymous looking letter in my mail. The letter was postmarked India, and contained 20 Tadalafil softtabs, plus a sample pack of four generic 100mg sildenafil softtabs. Nice gesture.

The tablets were all packed in blisterpacks, and looked professional enough.

I was a little hesitant to try these out, but gave it a try last weekend. I took one of the tadalafil softtabs. Nothing really happened. I typically experience facial flushing with Levitra, but with this - nothing. Hence, I was not sure whether this stuff stuff actually worked before I hooked up with Andrea at FKK Palace in Frankfurt. However as soon as she touched me I had massive wood. I spent a few hours at the club, performed flawlessly, and with no side effects from the tabs. Highly recommended.

[OzzieSuds]

Can anyone tell me that viagra and cialis are allowed in Singapore and Malaysia.

Thanks

Certainly 'allowed' but you need a prescription to purchase. Not sure about JB/Malaysia but in Indonesia and Vietnam you can just buy at pharmacies without prescription.

[OzzieSuds]

Based on reports in this forum I gave www.edselection.com a try.

I ordered 20 generic cialis (tadalafil) soft tabs for USD79.95, plus USD30 in shipping.



Thats about the same price as the pharmacies in Saigon where they seel the originals in four-packs.

I tried the generic from India (available in Bangkok) but did not think it was as effective.

[OzzieSuds]

In Hong Kong, Viagra and Cialis are readily available in the Pharmacy located at the Entrance to K Pressure in Jordan.
Look at the maps in the Hong Kong Forum - very easy to find. I am sure there are other pharmacies Hong Kong that also sell this but the one near K Pressure is one I always use.

I have found that most pharmacies in Hong Kong will sell Cialis without a prescription but it is better to go to the actual pharmacist and ask for it by its generic name - Tadalafil. No-one else in the shop will understand and the pharmacist will be less concerned about on-lookers.

[Major Dude]

My research has shown that alldaychemist.com is a great site (minus the expensive flat shipping).This site is #1 by far. The prices, service, selection and quality are unmatched. I see that some sites here are being posted with referral links. These should be viewed with extra scrutiny.

[Music Festival]

I bought the generic Cialis, and Viagra from www.usolinerx.net that I saw here. I got 32 cialis and 34 Viagra, and whole lot cost me $222. About £110. I took them myself, and they worked nice, a real good boost. But then I'm only 19, so I'm still pretty horny. But I'm a broke student, so I have been selling them around my home city here in the UK to mates, and guys in pubs and clubs. I'm sold out of all now in 2 weeks, and I have made over £1000 from them. Been selling them for 15. 25 quid each, and loads of guys have been coming back looking for more, even a few old guys in their 60s and 70s. Everyone seems happy with them, and nobody has looked for money back. Even a few girls bought them!

I'm ordering more now today, because I'm going to a music festival in a few weeks, and I reckon I'll make a killing off them there.

[Sainter21]

Is there an issue with Customs in Australia importing prescription drugs through the mail? Is it legal?
I usually bring some back from Bkk, but haven't been back in a while and won't be there for a while and running low on supplies so looking at online places.

Cheers.

[Daviddawkins]

I just wanted to give a warning about this company: pharmaexpressrx

I made an order from them that I never recieved. In fact they never even sent it. I contacted them repeatedly asking them about not getting anything. They replied that there probably was a problem with customs. They told me they would reship. Both of the tracking numbers were not even valid when used. And they were identicle.

I asked for a refund, and they said they would get back to me. They never did.

They scammed me. Don't let them scam you.

[Daviddawkins]

Here is the second company that sells crap products: 4Rx.com

I don't know about their other products, but the generic cialis that I ordered had absolutlely no results. Pills even looked suspect.

I wasted my money. The back had tadalafil but no company info like you see on the back of bnafide viagra cilais products. Just mass produced fakes.

Don't waste your money.

[Davefreeman53]

Here is the second company that sells crap products: 4Rx.com

I don't know about their other products, but the generic cialis that I ordered had absolutlely no results. Pills even looked suspect.

I wasted my money. The back had tadalafil but no company info like you see on the back of bnafide viagra cilais products. Just mass produced fakes.

Don't waste your money.Yeah a mate of mine bought off them a few months ago and the stuff was shite. We both tried them and got no boost at all.

I bought off another company recently and the stuff was pretty good. See my report here:

763201

[Yankee 617]

My physician recently put me on Androgel (testosterone supplement) for low testosterone blood levels. If anyone here has experience with this drug would you please pm me. I have a couple of questions. Thank you.

Two years ago a blood test showed I had low testosterone. This was reconfirmed a couple months ago, so I started using a testoterone patch. The patch brought my T-levels to within "normal range" and I could sense the improvements (better mood, some nocturnal erections, less fatigued) but found that I had significant skin irritation, and keeping the patch on was sometimes problematic. So, a few days ago, I switched to Androgel. So far so good. I'll have my T-level checked again in a couple weeks.

I wish I'd had my T-level checked many years ago so that I had a baseline against which to compare. While my current level is within "normal range", I think I could probably double my dose of T and still stay within "normal range". I wonder what effect this would have on me. I also wonder whether normal for ME is toward the upper end or the lower end of the "normal range".

I also should not have waited two years to begin T therapy.

Correction: I started using Androderm patches (5 mg), then I switched to Testim gel 1% (apply 5 g tube daily; contains 50 mg testosterone). I'm not sure if there is a product called Androgel.

[Yankee 617]

I decided to compile the following list from reports I read here on the ISG forum. Beside each entry is my count of the number of ISG member reports I saw that were either favorable (1st number) or unfavorable (2nd number). I also listed the ISG member names that I counted... I didn't want to count multiple posts from the same ISG member for/against the same on-line pharmacy. I also tried not to count posts that seemed to be from a representative or affiliate of the on-line pharmacy (or a competitor)... that is, I tried to count only "true" ISG members. Further, I sometimes found that two different URLs would carry me to the same web site... so I tried to consolidate these entries in my survey.

To compile this list, I read 3 threads here on ISG... all were under the headings "Special Interests; Viagra & other Performance Enhancers". Those threads being "Classified Ads", "Cialis", and "Viagra". I ignored the "Herbal Performance Enhancers" thread. For the "Viagra" thread, I only read the posts numbered 1000 and above.

Here is the result of my survey. Please accept my apology for any mistakes. If you want to add to this survey, or to make corrections, please post your comments publicly to this forum; please do NOT pm me.

( 4/ 0) www.EDSelection.com

Harry Dude, Asian Rain, Carroll6, Undercoverh,

( 6/ 1) www.usolinerx.net

Music Festival, Davefreeman53, Penn Teller, Hanguklvr, Wan King, Sir Real, Smegma Vagina,

( 3/ 1) www.365pharmacy.co.uk

Sir Real, Kiwi 69, Tansak KTV, Warsteiner,

( 2/ 0) www.alldaychemist.com

Major Dude, Kute Guy,

( 2/ 0) www.prima-med.com

Lukasek, Buck Rogers,

( 2/ 0) www.ukmedix.co.uk

Marchway, Munchie,

( 2/ 2) www.generic-pharmacy.net (possibly same as www.usolinerx.net)

More Lamour, Senu, Wan King, Sex Luthor,

( 1/ 0) www.valuepharmaceuticals.com

Puzzo,

( 1/ 0) www.bestgenericpharmacy.com

Achup,

( 1/ 0) www.straightmansweb.com

Mack1964,

( 1/ 0) www.menscare.co.uk

Caiman27,

( 1/ 0) www.healthwise-uk.co.uk

Munchie,

( 1/ 0) www.mygenericpharmacy.com

Octatron,

( 1/ 2) www.rx-mex.org AKA www.XLPharmacy.com

Marlboro Red, Royalflush, Player2,

( 0/ 1) www.discount-pharmacy-group.com

Jak,

( 0/ 1) www.kamagra-kamagra.co.uk

More Lamour,

( 0/ 1) www.mshwt.com

More Lamour,

( 0/ 1) www.pharmaexpressrx.com

Daviddawkins,

( 0/ 3) www.4RX.com AKA www.rx-mex.net

Davefreeman53, Daviddawkins, Player2,

( 0/ 0) www.accessrx.com

So far, based only on these survey results, it seems to me that the first two on-line pharmacies (www.EDSelection.com and www.usolinerx.net) might be the most reliable/trustworthy.

Yankee

[Yankee 617]

Selected prices in US dollars from www.EDselection.com

1) Tadalafil 20 mg

60 pills $139.95 + $10.00 shipping

2) Tadalafil 20 mg SOFT

60 pills $149.95 + $10.00 shipping

3) Sildenafil 100 mg

60 pills $119.95 + $10.00 shipping

4) Sildenafil 100 mg SOFT

60 pills $154.95 + $10.00 shipping

NOTE: They show images of the brand name products while stating clearly that they only sell "generic" versions made in India. Unfortunately, it is not clear who manufactures the version they sell. Many Indian pharmaceutical companies manufacturing these drugs.

NOTE: They provide a UK address and offer two phone numbers. One is a US toll-free number the other has a NYC area code. A reverse phone lookup shows this to be an unpublished number for a landline on Staten Island.

NOTE: I think the "soft tab" does not contain the stated dose, but contains a lesser dose with comparable effect.

NOTE: Googling the number with the NYC area code leads to numerous other related on-line pharmacies including:

http://www.pharmaris.com/
http://viagra.com-price.info/levitra.htm/
http://www.cheaplevitra.eu/?product=kamagra
http://viagra-cialis.biz/?lang=en
http://purchase-viagra.com-price.info/?lang=en
http://levitrasoftabs.info/kamagra-oral-jelly.htm?lang=en-us
http://www.cheaplevitra.eu/?product=cialis+soft
http://www.buy-cheap-generic-viagra.net/
http://www.buy-generic-viagra-online.com/contact.php
http://medicalusa.us/
http://www.malbone.org/
http://www.buyingviagra.name/?product=cialis+soft
http://viagra-cialis.biz/index.html

[Yankee 617]

Selected prices in US dollars from www.usonlinerx.net

1) Tadalafil 20 mg

60 pills $173.00 + $ 0.00 shipping

2) Tadalafil 20 mg SOFT

60 pills $173.00 + $ 0.00 shipping

3) Sildenafil 100 mg

60 pills $149.00 + $ 0.00 shipping

4) Sildenafil 100 mg SOFT

60 pills $149.00 + $ 0.00 shipping

NOTE: They also claim to offer the brand name items from the US manufacturer at a much higher price (of course).

NOTE: I think the "soft tab" does not contain the stated dose, but contains a lesser dose with comparable effect.

NOTE: I could not find a physical mailing address on their site but they do offer a US toll-free number. Googling this US toll-free number leads to numerous other related on-line pharmacies including:

http://www.genericonline.net/content.asp?id=6
http://trustrx.net/
http://www.topills.com/
http://www.buypharmacymeds.com/
http://www.pillcraze.com/
http://slicetoxhtml.com/sliced/topills.com/productpage.html
http://www.swingersspacerx.com/english/item/generic_cipro.html
http://www.mercafarmacia.com/testimonytopills.htm
http://generic-pharmacy.net/about-generic-pharmacy.html
http://www.pillsorigin.com/content.asp?id=6
http://www.genericonline.net/

It also leads to this "Rip Off Report" (quoted below)...

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/292/RipOff0292458.htm

=======================
Generic-Pharmacy
P.O. Box 392
Calcutta, Nationwide, 700 029
India

I ordered tablets from this company on the 20th Nov 07, via their web site at a cost of U.K. £ 60.00. Delivery was quoted as 24 days, not including week-ends. At the end of this period (18th Dec. 07) I contacted their e-mail help line. The-mail was returned as un-delivered. The goods were paid for by Visa and will contact them to report this company.

John Singleton,
Poulton-Le-Fylde. FY6 8LN
United Kingdom
=======================

[Yankee 617]

there are a number of indian manufacturers of "generic viagra" including those shown in table 1 below. many of them also make "generic cialis".

=================================================
silagra (cipla) <http://www.cipla.com/>
kamagra (ajanta pharmaceutical) <http://www.ajantapharma.com/>
zenegra (alkem) <http://www.alkemlabs.com/>
caverta (ranbaxy) <http://www.ranbaxy.com/>
penegra (cadila pharmaceuticals) <http://www.cadilapharma.com/>
edegra (sun pharmaceuticals) <http://www.sunpharma.com/>
erix (unichem laboratories) <http://www.unichemindia.com/>
androz (torrent pharmaceuticals) <http://www.torrentpharma.com/>
=================================================
table 1: trade names and manufacturers of generic viagra

there is a wealth of on-line information about these drugs. here are a few sites i found useful in my research...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/pharmaceuticals_in_india
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/sildenafil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/cialis

it seems that indian patent law does not recognize patents on the compound itself, but only on the process by which the compound is made. (however, this may be changing, or has changed, as india tries to comply with wto standards.) because if this, indian manufacturers have been able to manufacture the same compounds using alternate processes. however, it seems the us (and other countries) do not allow these indian manufacturers to sell their "generic" versions; that's why orders are sometimes confirep001ed by customs. [note: so is it illegal for us to import these drugs to the us or is it illegal for the manufacturers to export these drugs to the us or both? this aspect of the legal status seems murky to me.]

interestingly, it seems the pfizer patents on sildenafil will expire around 2011-2013. the patent for tadilafil was obtained in 1994 so my guess is that it would expire sometime around 2014. (but these companies often have slick ways to extend the duration of their patents, so i wouldn't bet on any huge influx of generic viagra or cialis just because those patents expire.)

i do wish that on-line pharmacies would identify the manufacturer when they try to sell "generic viagra" or "generic cialis". then we could compare anecdotal experiences with viagra vs silagra vs kamagra vs zenegra etc. at present, the comparisons are between, say, viagra and "something else".

info about viagra and chinese patent law...

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2006-06/20/content_621072.htm

http://www.in-pharmatechnologist.com/industry-drivers/china-s-sipo-defends-breaking-of-viagra-patent

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/china_business/hf21cb03.html

http://www.iprights.com/cms/templates/articles.aspx?articleid=310&zoneid=2

http://www.icmrindia.org/casestudies/catalogue/business%20environment/pfizer%20intellectual%20property%20rights%20battles%20in%20china-viagra-case%20studies1.htm#china_cracks_down_on_counterfeiters

http://www.genengnews.com/articles/chitem.aspx?aid=2098&chid=4

[Duckin Duck]

My first post, I've been reading this forum for years. I fuck some prostitutes from time to time, but don’t feel comfortable writing about it.

When you get to my age, you need help in the Penis department. I'm 62 now and I need those tablets to get an erection.

I can get real Viagra and Cialis on prescription from my doctor buts its too expensive in my country. I had read good and bad reports on this forum about generic Viagra and generic cialis.

I ordered from www.usolinerx.net.. Lots of posts about that company here. Got the stuff after about 2 weeks. Tried the Viagra first, not bad, worked about 70% as well as the real one. 4 days later tried the Cialis and that was better, I reckon that worked just aswell as real Cialis. I got good erections for 2 days after one tablet.

I got the smallest amounts of Viagra and Cialis possible, which amounted to 10 pills of Viagra for $60, and 10 pills of Cialis for $65. At 6 bucks per tablet isn’t bad. I normally take 2 per week, so this lot should do me for about 10 weeks. Next time I'm gonna buy a big amount of just Cialis, like 90 pills for $219 and that should see me right for a year.

Those photos attached, I didn’t take, but the product I got looked very similar.

[Gallego]

Tried both products and indeed works well. But later on did find this one: http://www.libidus-europe.com/ and depending on where you live you can order here: http://www.libidus-pill.com/html/home.html. These are natural products and you will be surprised about the results. I only use the Libidus now and I am super happy with the results.

[SE Asia Joe]

It is all too easy these days to attribute a death to an OD, but sometimes, in fact usually, people die because their time is up, be that from a heart attack, stroke, or just old age.

I would honestly think that if anyone could prove any link between V and deaths, that Pfizer would be doing some serious damage limitations. However, I really think that they did their research and are pretty secure in the knowledge that V, for one, is as safe a drug as any drug can be.

Petemcc
Hey Pete:

I believe that you are a male nurse? If so, can you please double check your above statement with some of the doctors you must have daily contact with?

You see, a very good friend of mine, early 50'S, in previous good physical shape (a full medical check up at Bumrungard a year or so ago only reveal a bit elevated Cholesterol level - close to borderline), VERY careful with his diet and fastidious in his hygiene - just had a heart attack and died.

The only thing that I can think of is that he did have a one a day habit - i.e. he would pop one gal per day and to do so, he took Viagra daily. The V was prescribed by his doctor in the States (genuine) and thus no problem with purity etc.

I read your statement about Pfizer and how they must be pretty sure etc - but we all know some of the horror stories with these drug companies and how they would "do things" just to keep sales up.

The question is - is Viagra really that safe? And safe for DAILY use?
I know I know, anything done to an excess is no good - but really - if a guy wants a daily pop - is it really all that excessive?

Secondary question - since Ciallis keeps me "ready to go'' for at least a couple days - sometimes even 3 days - is it safer than viagra which requires dosage every 5 or so hours? In that my friend would probably have needed only a dose every few days instead of daily?

Thanks Pete - and whoever else who could contribute their own knowledge etc on this matter

Ciao
SEAJ

[Member #3173]

Can do full sex with spouse but cannot perform outside, ie sometimes transient erection and now none at all even with female stimulation.A doctor friend says it is due to anxiety rather than low testosterone and said if it need be pop in a viagra instead of trying to raise the testo with all the hassle of blood test, rectal examination and so on.

I dont cheong a lot buy it will be nice to feel nice once a while.I am about 62
What do you guys say.Any doctor in the house?

By the way I am on 1/2 tablet a day of Tenoret which is a combination of
atenolol and chlorthalidone i.e. a combo of beta blocker and diuretic

[Exoticspirit]

I've taken Viagra only for enhancement for sessions and only at 25 mg with minimal side effects. Only nasal congestion. I'm going to Germany to try out their FKK clubs for the first time later this month. To get the money's worth, most guys will go for average 3-4 girls over several hours during a single club visit. So my question is, if I take say 25 mg at the beginning, can I take another 25 mg say a few hours later in order to help me get through a marathon?

[Puzzo]

I've taken Viagra only for enhancement for sessions and only at 25 mg with minimal side effects. Only nasal congestion. I'm going to Germany to try out their FKK clubs for the first time later this month. To get the money's worth, most guys will go for average 3-4 girls over several hours during a single club visit. So my question is, if I take say 25 mg at the beginning, can I take another 25 mg say a few hours later in order to help me get through a marathon?You can use 50mg at beginning it is more safe than taking two 25mg,don't forget to drink plenty of water in the morning to flash-out Viagra and minimaized the side effects as stuffy nose.Cheers!

[Warsteiner]

Tried both products and indeed works well. But later on did find this one: http://www.libidus-europe.com/ and depending on where you live you can order here: http://www.libidus-pill.com/html/home.html. These are natural products and you will be surprised about the results. I only use the Libidus now and I am super happy with the results.


Have a look at http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ahc-asc/media/advisories-avis/_2008/2008_46-eng.php

Warning
2008-46
March 20, 2008
For immediate release

OTTAWA - Health Canada is warning consumers not to use Libidus, an unauthorized product promoted on the web site of the manufacturer for the treatment of erectile dysfunction. The product may pose serious health risks, as it was found to contain the undeclared prescription drug sildenafil, which should only be used under the supervision of a health care professional.

Looks like this contains viagra so not completely 'natural'. This will no doubt be similar to other so-called Viagra competitors (i.e. Palo Alto Aspire 36, etc.) who don't list all of the ingredients in their products. Best to stick to the real thing as at least you know what you are getting.

[Exoticspirit]

You can use 50mg at beginning it is more safe than taking two 25mg,don't forget to drink plenty of water in the morning to flash-out Viagra and minimaized the side effects as stuffy nose.Cheers!Why would it be safer to take a one time higher dose compared to taking two smaller doses a few hours apart?

[SE Asia Joe]

The question is - is Viagra really that safe? And safe for DAILY use?
I know I know, anything done to an excess is no good - but really - if a guy wants a daily pop - is it really all that excessive?

Secondary question - since Ciallis keeps me "ready to go'' for at least a couple days - sometimes even 3 days - is it safer than viagra which requires dosage every 5 or so hours? In that my friend would probably have needed only a dose every few days instead of daily?
SEAJ
Received from Weelock my good buddy by PMS this information on my question



Viagra and Heart attacks

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http://injury-law.freeadvice.com/dr...ide-effects.htm


Viagra, Cialis, and Levitra cause drops in systemic blood pressure in many patients. This is caused by a dilation of general blood vessels, as well as the vessels that allow erection of the penis. These drops in blood pressure can bring on cardiac events including:

* Heart attack
* Sudden cardiac death
* Hypertension

Viagra, Cialis, and Levitra have most recently been linked with sudden blindness in one eye, called stroke of the eye, which occurs when the blood supply is cut off to an optic nerve. The patients most at risk for this condition, non-artritic anterior ischemic optic neuropathy (NAION), are men who:

* Have heart disease
* Are over 50 years old
* Have diabetes
* Have high blood pressure
* Have high cholesterol
* Smoke
* Have certain eye problems
Weelock

[SE Asia Joe]

Did a bit more reading as directed by the info provided by Weelock and found out that these drugs do definitely dramatically increase the risk of going BLIND. Cialis is actually worse (25 times risk increase) than Viagra (18 times increase) as far as going NAION blind is concerned.
Let me see if I can find out the increased risk of death by using these drugs.
SEAJ





Viagra, Cialis & Levitra Information and Warnings

Viagra, Cialis & Levitra are three similar drugs used for the treatment of erectile dysfunction (ED). They work by increasing smooth muscle relaxation and blood vessel dilation, which allows more blood to flow to the penis. These drugs have raised a great deal of controversy because they have been linked to serious and sometimes deadly side effects.
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A study published in 2006 in the British Journal of Ophthalmology was done at the University of Alabama in Birmingham. The study compared men taking Viagra or Cialis (Levitra was not included in the study) who had a history of heart problems with those who did not. The study found that men who had a history of heart attack or high blood pressure 10 times more likely to develop non-arteritic anterior ischemic optic neuropathy (NAION), or stroke of the eye, than men without that history. The study found a smaller increased risk of NAION in men with a history of hypertension. An earlier article in the June 2005 issue of the British Journal of Ophthalmology had reported 7 confirmed cases in which men had developed NAION in the first 3 days of using Viagra.

From 1998 to 2004, the FDA (Food and Drug Administration) received 38 reports of vision loss linked to the use of Viagra and 5 cases with the other two ED drugs. The difference is understandable, since Viagra had been on the market for the full 6 years, while Cialis and Levitra had only been released for a few months at the time of those reports. The FDA required the manufacturers to issue Viagra, Cialis & Levitra warnings. See Drug Warnings: Viagra, Cialis & Levitra Side Effects and Risks for more information.

The consumer advocacy group Public Citizen Health Research Group has criticized the FDA for not taking stronger action and has called for a Viagra, Cialis & Levitra black box warning for NAION. Public Citizen’s own review of research indicates that men taking Viagra are 18 time more likely to develop NAION than other men with similar risk factors, and that men taking Cialis are 25 times more likely to develop NAION. Charles Grassly (R. Iowa) chair of the Senate Finance Committee has requested FDA documents to explain why the FDA had taken so long to notify the public about the risk of NAION.

If you are taking an ED drug and notice changes in your vision, you should stop taking the drug and see your healthcare provider immediately. You should also get immediate help if you notice any problems with your heart or blood pressure.

[SE Asia Joe]

How Viagra possibly causes the onset of a heart attack.

(With due apologies if I perhaps am putting a damper on your enthusiasm for our "Activities" aided by these drugs.
Sorry guys, really, but the death of my friend has really gotten to me.)
SEAJ



Saturday, 11 January, 2003, 00:00 GMT
Clue to mystery Viagra deaths


Viagra has been linked to a number of deaths

The mystery behind the deaths of a small number of men taking the anti-impotence drug Viagra may have been solved by scientists.
Although Viagra has achieved worldwide renown as a highly effective treatment for impotence, it was originally developed to prevent heart attacks and strokes.

Our research suggests Viagra may present a risk for patients with pre-existing conditions



Professor Xiaoping Du

The drug was thought to work not only by dilating the blood vessels, but also by stopping tiny solid particles in the blood called platelets from clumping together and forming clots that could block blood flow and trigger a heart attack or stroke.

However, new work by researchers from the University of Illinois at Chicago has found that the drug in fact has the reverse effect - it stimulates the clumping of platelets, thus raising the risk of clotting.

Lead researcher Professor Xiaoping Du said: "Viagra, by itself, probably is not sufficient to cause a heart attack in healthy people, but our research suggests that it may present a risk for patients with pre-existing conditions such as atherosclerosis."

Effect on cells

The researchers tested the effect of Viagra on platelets taken from normal donors.

Alone the drug did not stimulate the platelets to stick together.

But it did if other compounds found in the bloodstream when the blood vessels are damaged - such as when somebody is suffering from heart disease - were added.

In fact, under these conditions Viagra caused the platelets to clump together at concentrations well below those found in patients prescribed the drug as an impotence treatment.

Viagra acts on platelets by inhibiting the breakdown of a compound found in cells called cyclic guanosine monophosphate (cGMP).

For 20 years scientists have thought cGMP acts to stop platelet clumping.

But the Chicago researchers believe that in fact cGMP initially causes platelets to clump together to seal a wound, only later reversing its effect to stop an excessive build-up that might block a blood vessel.

In most circumstances, they argue this would work well.

But a person at risk may already have blood vessels narrowed to the point that even the initial clumping of platelets could be enough to cause problems.

Safety record

Joel Morris, a spokesman for Pfizer, which makes Viagra, told BBC News Online that the drug had been shown to have a very impressive safety record.

"We take this research seriously, and it will be scrutinised by our medical teams.

"But a recent study by the Drug Safety Research Unit in the UK of 9,000 patients found that men who take Viagra are at no greater risk of heart problems than the general population."

It is estimated that 20 million men worldwide have taken Viagra.

The research is published in the journal Cell.

[SE Asia Joe]

and this from psa rising - a prostrates cancer survivor support group
seaj
ps. i've rtff'd this thread, going back 21 pages and except for petemcc's reference which i had earlier quoted, i could not find any discusssions on the safety of these ed drugs. has there been any discussions on this thread on this?? anybody recall?



viagra may cause heart attack deaths in younger men with no heart problems, study finds
march 14, 2000. viagra, commonly prescribed by doctors to treat male erectile dysfunction, is turning up too often at the scene of heart attack death in relatively young men. some men may be vulnerable to heart attack after taking this drug, made by pfizer. that is not known, but the drug itself is beginning to look like more than a bystander in the deaths.

some men who have died after taking viagra were elderly and on heart medication. but a study reported march 14 finds that more men who have died were **** sixty-five. most of the deaths have occurred within a few hours of taking the drug. most of the men took the standard dose. most of the men had no reported heart problems. although some men who died were taking nitrates as well as viagra, men who were not taking nitrates died at a higher rate.

this new evidence comes from post-marketing adverse event reports about viagra made to the fda. researchers at cedars-sinai medical center in los angeles analyzed these reports and found that there "appears to be a high number of deaths and serious cardiovascular events associated with the use of viagra." they presented the study march 14 at the meeting of the american college of cardiologists in anaheim, ca.

in an analysis of 1,473 major adverse events recorded in these reports about viagra to the fda, 522 people died, most of them from cardiovascular causes. according to the study's senior author, dr. kaul, the majority of deaths were associated with standard viagra dosages (70 percent of the deaths were associated with the 50 mg dose). the deaths were due to cardiovascular causes and appeared to be clustered around the time of dosing (two thirds of deaths in which the time from ingestion to death was reported, occurred within 4-5 hours of taking viagra). the majority of deaths occurred in patients who were less than 65 years of age, and who had no reported cardiac risk factors.

the study confirmed the well-documented increased risk with combined use of nitrates and viagra. of 90 patients who suffered major heart events while taking viagra on top of nitrates, death occurred in about 68 percent, and when myocardial infarction was counted, the number of major cardiovascular events in that group rose to 88 percent.

however, the study found that most deaths (88 percent) actually occurred in patients who were not taking nitrates, leading investigators to speculate whether there are some susceptible individuals who don't need nitrates to unmask the harmful effects of viagra.

[XXL]

Sorry to hear Viagra could be bad for your heart. Because of its blood-pressure lowering properties, it has been used by users of stimulants (Xstasy, coke) to guard against hypertensive crises.

The side-effects on eyesight (and maybe on the eye) are well established.

For those who are interested, I ordered PT-141 (bremelanotide) from China. Difficult to feel an effect. Concentrations are probably not sufficient.

[Petemcc]

Hey Pete:

I believe that you are a male nurse? If so, can you please double check your above statement with some of the doctors you must have daily contact with?

You see, a very good friend of mine, early 50'S, in previous good physical shape (a full medical check up at Bumrungard a year or so ago only reveal a bit elevated Cholesterol level - close to borderline), VERY careful with his diet and fastidious in his hygiene - just had a heart attack and died.

The only thing that I can think of is that he did have a one a day habit - i.e. he would pop one gal per day and to do so, he took Viagra daily. The V was prescribed by his doctor in the States (genuine) and thus no problem with purity etc.

I read your statement about Pfizer and how they must be pretty sure etc - but we all know some of the horror stories with these drug companies and how they would "do things" just to keep sales up.

The question is - is Viagra really that safe? And safe for DAILY use?
I know I know, anything done to an excess is no good - but really - if a guy wants a daily pop - is it really all that excessive?

Secondary question - since Ciallis keeps me "ready to go'' for at least a couple days - sometimes even 3 days - is it safer than viagra which requires dosage every 5 or so hours? In that my friend would probably have needed only a dose every few days instead of daily?

Thanks Pete - and whoever else who could contribute their own knowledge etc on this matter

Ciao
SEAJ
Guys
I only just got PMd about this thread, and a about to go to bed. Understand that I am not an expert, however with my training and background, I am able to critically review literature, and I will do this.
I don't know if I have said this before, but there is no such thing as a safe drug, someone, somewhere will have a problem with a drug.
Also, I have always said, do not self medicate. Use a GP, they can at least monitor what is going on-OK, it's more expensive, but initially.

I will do some research and post it all, but one important thing to remember in the meantime is IF YOU ARE ON NITRATES, DO NOT USE ED DRUGS.
You will be on nitrates if you have or have had angina.
Note also, amyl nitrate is a nitrate, and some younger guys pop this as well.
Briefly, the platelet research is interesting, if correct-answer, half an aspirin a day, but fuck me, they can't have it both ways, it's a dilator yet constrictions are blocked by platelets?
Also heart attacks (myocardial infarctions) are caused when there is not enough blood to areas of the heart muscle. This is nearly always caused by a blockage in a coronary artery. Yes, very low blood pressure can have the same effect, and some people do naturally have very low blood pressure, or take recreational drugs which lower BP.
Finally, before I go, researchers these days seldom find things by chance, because they are paid to find specifics, or they work on personal hunches and acquire funding, so there may be hidden agendas, then again, there may not.
I suspect more people will die from aspirin every year, which is in itself a wonder drug and keeps post heart attack victims alive for one, than will ever die from ED drugs.

Watch this space.
Pete

[Wapec]

Joe

Interesting research, findings and every monger that uses has a responsibility to themselves of being aware of any and all risks - from medical to physical health risks. For the benefit of others out there, this info is actually on the warnings avail written inside the box for vit V & C. Vit L I can't say as I've never used. The wording is not helpful for the non-wary but it is there. For example, vit V warns of possible general muscle soreness and prolonged dizziness in some which I've experienced and is why I personally use vit V. Similar to Joe I use vit C because it stays in the blood stream longer and it call also be flushed out of the body by excessive electrolytic fluids.

I believe that Joe has hit it on the button with his observation over daily use. None of these enhancers are designed for daily non-prescribed or daily use in men of any age. No study would ever be designed to cover say a group of mongers with prolonged usage. However, in small concentrated situations there increased risk levels would not be material or significant. This is one reason why I try to limit my activities to a week of wildness every couple of months. Of course, this also suits my natural rythmn between work and other commitments.

Not preaching in any way and each to their own.
/W


Did a bit more reading as directed by the info provided by Weelock and found out that these drugs do definitely dramatically increase the risk of going BLIND. Cialis is actually worse (25 times risk increase) than Viagra (18 times increase) as far as going NAION blind is concerned.
Let me see if I can find out the increased risk of death by using these drugs.
SEAJ

[Wapec]

A quick follow up on Petemcc's quick post. The reason why its dangerous to take ED meds with nitrates is that nitrates oxidize the iron atoms in hemoglobin from Ferrous Iron (2+) to Ferric Iron (3+), rendering it unable to carry oxygen. This condition is called methemoglobinemia and can lead to a lack of oxygen in tissues and consequent pulmonary difficulties.


I understand that ED enhancers combined with alcohol intake can contribute to lower blood pressure along with an associated anti-depressant impact. There are negative health considerations from long term exposure to both alocohol & ED enhancers for the reinforced lowering of blood pressure reason. On this I would welcome others comment ? I am not medically qualified and certainly profess no expertise in this area for others to rely on.

Sharing what I have heard or accumulated over time by experience or discussion. JMPOV

[It Travel]

Of course I experienced Viagra and Cialis and still not Levitra but will…

Viagra have big flush problems and drink compatibility same as Cialis but no face flush, cot some muscular pain from Cialis too… but the effect of Cialis if better by far.

My strategy for a approx 100 kg tall men under 50 is as following when I do my “sex” weeks in EE… mid that I do only overnighters. So I used 100 mg Viagra and now I use 20 mg Cialis.

I try to limit alcohol if I want really to fuck to a couple of big beers, may be I take a couple of vodkas or beers just relaxing and then sleeping.

Usually I take my first Cialis on the plane getting there let’s say 3 pm… so when I’m in bed with a telephone contacted girl at 8 or 9 it’s already rock hard… The second day I take my Cialis around 8 pm and the third I take it around midnight. In this case I try always to manage a girl not leaving before 11-12 am.

After usually I have a “day off” may be just wondering, chasing girl I know hard to get in bed the first time etc… go to sleep and take a long out sleeping morning.

The day I’m out slept I start again at 3 pm and so on for three days.

I do not make this things more than once every two months... of course some occasional fucking might not need Viagra or Cialis... or might depend on the girl and on time but in that case I take it once.

I try to drink as little as possible :( and I try always to have a real good breakfast and generally not too much food, especially in the evening.. may be a god salmon or something else to eat with the girl I’m nailing…

Mind that I’m not a disco-club monger so my timing is quite different, some time I dine with the girl, but If I’m not working I’m in bed, nailing always before 10 pm! So I happily manage my three/four shots in the evening and my two three in the morning. Then I rest all the day to the next one. The best ones are morning ones, usually in the second I manage 30-45 minutes of real good nailing, most cases devastating anal, poor teens!

Hope to be useful…

IT

PS On of the best things in EE, mostly Russia and Ukraine is that you find Viagra, Cialis, Levitra originals with no prescription in any Chemist Shop, often even in Hotel Pharmacies.

[Petemcc]

A quick follow up on Petemcc's quick post. The reason why its dangerous to take ED meds with nitrates is that nitrates oxidize the iron atoms in hemoglobin from Ferrous Iron (2+) to Ferric Iron (3+), rendering it unable to carry oxygen. This condition is called methemoglobinemia and can lead to a lack of oxygen in tissues and consequent pulmonary difficulties.


I understand that ED enhancers combined with alcohol intake can contribute to lower blood pressure along with an associated anti-depressant impact. There are negative health considerations from long term exposure to both alocohol & ED enhancers for the reinforced lowering of blood pressure reason. On this I would welcome others comment ? I am not medically qualified and certainly profess no expertise in this area for others to rely on.

Sharing what I have heard or accumulated over time by experience or discussion. JMPOV

Still researching, but just an addition re nitrates.
The real problem wth them is that they produce nitrous oxide, which is a very, very potent dilator-which is why it alleviates angina so quickly. The dilation effects of nitrates with the dilation effects of viagra= not enough blood pressure-It's like water flowing through a drainpipe or a straw. Lack of BP=not enough oxygen=possible heart attack.

As I say, I am still researching, but I agree, taking V every day not under medical supervision is fraught with danger. I'll get back to you guys soon.
Pete

[Petemcc]

ok, me again.
just checking the online literature and most of the stories are between 3 and 5 years old. tonight i will check the medical library for anything new, but it seems as though the modern trend is towards what else v can be used for as opposed to how 'dangerous' it can be.

let's just look briefly at heart attacks and strokes.
heart attacks are usually caused by a blood clot in a coronary artery, strokes by a blood clot in the brain, or a burst blood vessel in the brain.
blood vessels can become weak with high blood pressure, but interestingly cardiac vessels become thicker, as they have to contend with the pressure, but thicker as in narrowing diameter.
in the vast majority of cases, atherosclerosis plays a major role in a heart attack. this is basically shite stuck to the inside of the arteries. as they are already narrowed, any small blood clots will become lodged more easily. also, blood forced through a small diameter vessel tends to clot quicker. one can see how if v enhances platelet clumping that already damaged vessels with shite in them may be more likely to clog if clumped platelets adhere, low bp (from v) or not.

everyone in the west will probably have some degree of shite in their arteries, sorry, but it's modern life, but the question is how much and is it dangerous.

this again is why one should at least consult a dr before taking any prescription meds, which v is in most civilised countries. the dr can check your bp and do tests. may i suggest everyone asks for crp to be tested (cardio reactive protein) with their blood tets, as well as total lipids. crp gives a measure of how badly damaged-full of shite your arteries are, and of course we all know that high choletserol levels (vldls) mean more shite in your arteries.

strangely, some studies were suggesting taking v everyday is good for those with heart disease, and may cure impotence, but to be honest i don't know about doses. again, the much maligned gp can help. believe it or not, they do get some pretty up to date information and many are very consciencious.

as i said in a previous post, deaths from aspirin every year i would suggest would far outnumber deaths from v, yet aspirin is a wonder drug and its use often outweighs its problems. maybe i shouldn't use aspirin as an example, because as i also said half an aspirin a day (300mg) is very good at stopping platelets from clumping-a bonus if v does indeed do this.

guys, if you are over 50, or over 40 and not really been fit, i'd definitely see a gp before popping v or its competitors. if you have angina and are on nitrates, don't take it-ever. as long as you have no stomach problems, 300mg of aspirin a day will help 'keep your blood thin'.

people have heart attacks every day, often seemingly young and healthy people, shit happens.
if you need v etc to get a stiffy, then as long as you are not on nitrates, well, would you rather possibly risk a thromby, or have sex? a life without sex?
if you do not need v, why take the risk, albeit very low. why would young men use v? clearly for abuse-so they can fuck all day and all night and pretend to be studs, but i would suggest that young men who use v may also use other substances. now the likliehood of full pm reports being released saying that mr dead person was on cocaine and speed as well as v, is minimal.
my personal opinion is that v is as safe as any drug. i only take drugs i need (and that includes alcohol!!), and if we all stick to that maximum, and take the drugs under medical supervision, then i think everything will be ok.

finally, v vs c vs l, i don't honestly know. they all have the same main mechanism of action, but like everything, v wasn't designed for ed, but it just happened to be excellent for it. exactly what drugs do, apart from their intended use, is often not discovered for years, so what v,l, or c does or does not do to an individual may well not yet be known, or particular to an individual. again, consult a gp, see what works best for you.
ok, once you have been medically cleared, buy the stuff cheap, but do yourself a favour and ask a profesional

i'll get back when i find out more.
pete

[SE Asia Joe]

Ok, me again.
Just checking the online literature
I'll get back when I find out more.
Pete
Thank you Pete. VERY informative and gives me a lot of guidance on what to do next!!

SEAJ

[Jolly Johner]

I bought Viagra and Cialis from www.usolinerx.net as recommended from here. I got both normal and generic of both, so loads of tablets.

Got to say I was overall impressed, and found all types of the tablets worked very well. Delivery time was 12 days, and good value I thought.

I would order from them again.

[Wapec]

Thank you for the balanced view and time taken to check things out. Useful.



I'll get back when I find out more.
Pete

[Exoticspirit]

So I was in the Berlin FKK club Artemis this week during my trip to Germany. I took equivalent of about 50-60 mg (since I broke a 100 mg tab in four). Went into the club and had my first girl about an hour after taking the V. No side effects except for a bit of nasal congestion.

Did the act no problem except couldn't come within my 30 minute session. Then I took another probably equivalent of 20-25 mg (according to my estimation of the size of the chunk) about four hours after the first dose. Took another girl at about 45 minutes after this dose. Same thing, did the act but didn't come.

I've never had this problem before. Is not being able to finish or come a known side effect of Viagra?

[Xdentx]

My physician has me on Androgel (similar to Testim) for low testosterone. My psychiatrist mentioned casually that testosterone would increase libido in a woman...but there are undesirable side effects. Question: if a woman used Androgel for a day or two...would she have an increased libido? Would side effects occur after only a one or two time dosing?

[Xdentx]

This product is now being marketed in a dosage designed for daily useage. Anyone have any experience yet?

[Yankee 617]

My physician has me on Androgel (similar to Testim) for low testosterone. My psychiatrist mentioned casually that testosterone would increase libido in a woman...but there are undesirable side effects. Question: if a woman used Androgel for a day or two...would she have an increased libido? Would side effects occur after only a one or two time dosing?

My understanding is that the normal T-level for women is about 1/10th that in men. Androgel, Testim, etc are all designed for men. Using them on women may have dangerous effects... I would be VERY careful about trying this.

I was on 5g of Testim 1% gel (contains 50 mg T) daily but found that it raised my T level well above the normal range so, today, I started on 2.5g of Androgel 1% gel (contains 25 mg T). Previously I was on Androderm patches daily but these irritated my skin and only raised my T level to the low-end of the normal range; that's why I switched to Testim gel.

My understanding is that the male testes normally produce about 7 mg of T per day. While 25-50 mg/d of T sounds like a lot compared to this, not all of that makes it through the skin and into your bloodstream.

Yes. I think T is a hormone that generates "desire" in both men and women, but I think that more T than normal will not necessarily generate more desire than normal. That is, her libido may reach a saturation level such that additional T in her blood doesn't generate additional desire.

Also, be aware that T is continuously generated AND destroyed by normal bodily functions in both men and women. I speculate (despite my complete lack of qualifications) that artificially increasing the T level in a woman may stimulate the processes that destroy T and ultimately produce a lower T level before returning to natural equilibrium; so, unless you keep her on Androgel, you may get a spike up followed by a spike down in T level and who knows what effects that may have on her libido.

Please post here any links to authoritative information (not my above speculation) that sheds light on this interesting subject. I'm curious about the possible risks/dangers, as well as possible benefits, of having an above normal level of T in my blood for an extended period of time. How much T do bodybuilders use? What are the disqualifying levels of T in competitive sports?

Rob

[Sainter21]

Is there an issue with Customs in Australia importing prescription drugs through the mail? Is it legal?
I usually bring some back from Bkk, but haven't been back in a while and won't be there for a while and running low on supplies so looking at online places.

Cheers.

Evidently not, or maybe I was lucky. Used a place recommended a few years ago (figure that because they are still around that its a good sign) to order a few goodies.
United Pharmacies is what I used. Ordered 10 x soft Tadalafil, 4 x Tadacip and 4 x Kamagra - less than AUD$100 inc postage.
Arrived within two working weeks. Have only tried the Tadalafil so far but worked a treat.
Interestingly, a NZ company bills you and pills sent from India, although last time it was Fiji. Got through Customs ok.
Cheers.

[Puzzo]

Evidently not, or maybe I was lucky. Used a place recommended a few years ago (figure that because they are still around that its a good sign) to order a few goodies.

United Pharmacies is what I used. Ordered 10 x soft Tadalafil, 4 x Tadacip and 4 x Kamagra - less than AUD$100 inc postage.

Arrived within two working weeks. Have only tried the Tadalafil so far but worked a treat.

Interestingly, a NZ company bills you and pills sent from India, although last time it was Fiji. Got through Customs ok.

Cheers.http://www.valuepharmaceuticals.com good place to buy,port villa vanuatu, send via registered mail,good prices and products.

[Xdentx]

I researched my own question about Androgel useage in women by doing a google search on "women, testerone, libido" and found some interesting articles. A drug, probably identical to Androjel, is currently in clinical trials on women to see if it can be safely used to increase libido. See http://www.biosantepharma.com/LibiGel.php

[Daviddawkins]

I ordered the generic cialis/tadalafil called FORZEST. The website is sketchy when you log in (my password didn't work). I requested a my password and it turned out that 4 other orders that were shipped to other people were listed under my password. That is unforgivable. Your order information is viewable by other people. I tried to cancel my order, but they are extremely slow in response. So, it wasn't canceled and I did get my order rather quickly.

Result: Forzest-- Nothing. Nada. No effect whatsoever. Pills were duds.

Everthing came in its original packing but it was a waste of money.

I have the worst luck. I won't order anything again.

Try your luck, but I wouldn't. Buy the real thing.

[Rockhunter]

Ok, I know this is weird, but a friend whom I respect, he is intelligent, stated unequivocably, that watermelon has the same chemical ingredients as Viagra. And that when he eats fresh watermelon in large quantities he gains the same effect as if he took V but without the side effects. Although watermelon gives me gas.

Any one ever hear of this ?

[Phynicle]

Yup Rockhunter your friend is right, watermelon has citrulline which has similar inhibitors to the ED drugs, our body also uses it to make arginine. However you have to get a load of water melon i think like 6 cups full before you will get any effect close to the synthetic drugs.

[Mchmens]

Has anyone used this website before its uk based they promise to deliver within 2 days by registered mail the web address is http://www.firstmed.co.uk/

[Yankee 617]

I researched my own question about Androgel useage in women by doing a google search on "women, testerone, libido" and found some interesting articles. A drug, probably identical to Androjel, is currently in clinical trials on women to see if it can be safely used to increase libido. See http://www.biosantepharma.com/LibiGel.php

Interesting information. Please note however that they have said NOTHING about whether increasing T levels beyond the normal range will increase libido. What they state is that if women have below-normal T levels (Hypoactive Sexual Desire Disorder -HSDD) then restoring normal T levels will restore normal libido. Here's the key quote...

"Though generally characterized as a male hormone, testosterone also is present in women and its deficiency has been found to decrease libido or sex drive. In addition to increasing sexual desire and activity and decreasing sexual distress, studies have shown that testosterone therapy can increase bone density, raise energy levels and improve mood. The goal of testosterone treatment of women complaining of HSDD is to increase the serum testosterone towards the normal range of premenopausal women in an effort to alleviate the symptoms of this disorder."

[Manfest]

--cut--
You see, a very good friend of mine, early 50'S, in previous good physical shape (a full medical check up at Bumrungard a year or so ago only reveal a bit elevated Cholesterol level - close to borderline), VERY careful with his diet and fastidious in his hygiene - just had a heart attack and died.

The only thing that I can think of is that he did have a one a day habit - i.e. he would pop one gal per day and to do so, he took Viagra daily. The V was prescribed by his doctor in the States (genuine) and thus no problem with purity etc.

I read your statement about Pfizer and how they must be pretty sure etc - but we all know some of the horror stories with these drug companies and how they would "do things" just to keep sales up.

The question is - is Viagra really that safe? And safe for DAILY use?
I know I know, anything done to an excess is no good - but really - if a guy wants a daily pop - is it really all that excessive?--cut--

Hi SEAJ,
I believe you and I had the same friend. Really one of the greats, one of the nicest guys I met on this trail and I still am sad at his passing. He did, however, use the generic V, bought from a Canadian pharmacy, made in India I believe. Last time I was in CP, he shared some with me, no problems. Nevertheless, impurity is one possibility. Also, since V was originally tested as an antihypertensive agent, using it everyday can lower blood pressure to the point of putting you at risk for heart attack, stroke, other vascular disease that comes about with transient low pressures. I hope that was not the case with our friend. I understand that he did not take it for several days due to feeling ill, therefore all the V should have been out of his system. Not a direct answer to your question. Most people feel a face flushing sensation and nasal congestion, these are all signs of dropping pressures.
M

[Otoman]

Would it be possible?

[Yankee 617]

Just now I ordered 60 tablets, 20 mg each, of Tadalifil (Cialis) from http://www.EDSelection.com/ for $139.95 plus $10.00 shipping by international unregistered mail. They say this takes 2-3 weeks. Order is supposed to include 4 free Sildenafil (Viagra) soft tabs as a FREE bonus.

Got an immediate email confirmation. Will update on how well this works. I have both real Viagra and real Cialis to compare with these generics.

[Dave Jamsis]

Just now I ordered 60 tablets, 20 mg each, of Tadalifil (Cialis) from http://www.EDSelection.com/ for $139.95 plus $10.00 shipping by international unregistered mail. They say this takes 2-3 weeks. Order is supposed to include 4 free Sildenafil (Viagra) soft tabs as a FREE bonus.

Got an immediate email confirmation. Will update on how well this works. I have both real Viagra and real Cialis to compare with these generics.


Thanks friend - please update with 'review'. I am surprised it is that easy to get V with no presripction.

[Redfield10]

Hi,

I will be going to the Philippines for the first time in three weeks. I used Cialis for the first time in Thailand a year ago and loved the "boost". Would love to try it again in the Phils. I will be staying at the City State Hotel in Ermita. Near LA Cafe. Hee. Hee.

Is there a pharmacy closeby that someone can recommend to buy Cialis? Is it difficult to buy there without a perscrption?

Thanks. Oh, and what's the cost?

[Xdentx]

Last week in Makati I realized I had forgotten my Cialis at home. Mercury Pharmacy near City Garden Makati hotel definitely wanted a prescription and I expect all pharmacies will. I got a prescription by asking the pharmacist where to find a doc. Big medial center within walking distance at 5 pm got me in and out in 15 minutes with a bp check and a chat with a real doctor. He gave me a rx for 10 boxes...(20 tabs)
I only bought 5 boxes for 7500 pesos, so it's not cheap in the pharmacy. The doc visit only cost 300 pesos total. You can buy on the street for 500 pesos or less per box...but i have no idea if it's real.

[Redfield10]

Hmm. Really? I need a perscription in Manila? I hear there is a pharmacy across the street from the City State Tower. Will I need one there?

Thanks

[Manfest]

Ok, I know this is weird, but a friend whom I respect, he is intelligent, stated unequivocably, that watermelon has the same chemical ingredients as Viagra. And that when he eats fresh watermelon in large quantities he gains the same effect as if he took V but without the side effects. Although watermelon gives me gas.

Any one ever hear of this ?

Yup, heard something similar. Apparently, the brine (white part that everyone throws out at the bottom of the pink sweet part) contains something similar to V. I tried it and NO effect, for whatever that is worth.

[Member #3428]

Yup, heard something similar. Apparently, the brine (white part that everyone throws out at the bottom of the pink sweet part) contains something similar to V. I tried it and NO effect, for whatever that is worth.

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-06/tau--wmh063008.php

FWIW... It has a natural chemical component that has shown it relaxes blood vessels which is what V does. But majority of melon is just water so getting anywhere near the right concentration you'd need to have, you'd have to eat a whole patch of watermelon. Items found in nature that relax blood vessels are found in higher concentrations in med's / herbals that are OTC. But no one has ever really studied what the affects are of using these natural items in higher concentrations.

I'm more leery of herbal items then med's as at least med's have been tested somewhat. A lot of these herbals have never been fully tested to see what the higher concentration of some concoctions affect you long term or short term.

Not scientific at all but.... saying that there's a few of us I know that when we go off to monger, just to monger, we've worked up a system that works for us including two herbals. A mixture of C (20 mg first day an hour before sex then 5 mg to 10 mg on a daily basis (depending on person) taken at the same time each day) and add two herbals OTC and taking a Whey Protein has worked increasing load, volume, taste (according to the girls), and effectiveness to shoot many multiple times a day and really increases load if shooting just four times or so a day. And mix in a antibiotic to ward off any BG colds or such has not affected performance. EDIT: and of course staying in general good shape (cardio and such) helps :D

Just tried jelly C the other day for the first time... to me worked the same as a soft C tablet taken an hour or so before sex but another guy said he got the effect very very very fast and lasted for a long time for him. Jelly V seems to give some a flushed and hot feeling in the face (this affects me like that), others don't get that at all so it's a full experiment on what works for each person the best.

[Room269]

Just a quick note about Viagra and similar drugs. According to a local article, the ED's are controlled drugs under state regulations and not the federal regs. Which is different from the patent rights for a drug.

When I received the order from allday it took me awhile to finally try one of the Viagra. I was very pleased and have used it regularly for a year now. I get regular blood work and check ups with the Dr about 4-5 times a year. I always get and use the Viagra samples from the Dr.

No one love sex more than I do! I use them 4-5 times a week and on trips I may use them 3 times a day. Even if I am primed. On a new date or someone I may only get once chance. I will pop one for the confidence that if I stay hard and do a great job I will be invited back.

I remember the Tee shirts women use to wear "A Hard Man is Good to Find" I think the T shirts are gone now but worth remembering.

[Yankee 617]

as long as we're talking about herbals, i did some personal web-based research into dopamine over the past 6-8 weeks. this is not a recommendation to anyone (and i have no plans to try anything like this), but i think its interesting.

it seems that increasing the level of dopamine in the brain can increase the libido. that is, unlike viagra or cialis, it actually increases sexual desire and it works equally well in both men and women. for example, patients with parkinson's disease are usually put on drugs that increase the level of dopamine in the brain and they frequently develop "sexual disinhibition disorder" as an unwanted side effect.

one cannot be given dopamine directly as this will not cross the blood-brain barrier. instead, patients are given a dopamine precursor, l-dopa, which can cross the blood-brain barrier. l-dopa is then readily converted (in both the body and the brain) into dopamine. but converting l-dopa into dopamine in the body is not what the doctors want to happen for two reasons: (1) not as much l-dopa reaches the brain, requiring much higher doses of l-dopa in order to get the desired response, and (2) the dopamine generated in the body will create hypertension and other unwanted side effects. so, when the patients are given l-dopa, they are also given a drug called carbidopa. carbidopa by itself has no effect and it cannot cross the blood-brain barrier. however, carbidopa prevents the conversion of l-dopa into dopamine. consequently, giving carbidopa in conjunction with l-dopa prevents the conversion of l-dopa into dopamine in the body and therefore allows more of the l-dopa to reach the brain where it will be converted into dopamine. this means that lower doses of l-dopa can be given to achieve the desired increase of dopamine in the brain (and one won't develop unwanted side-effects like hypertension either). benserazide is used instead of carbidopa in canada and britain but is not approved in the usa.

it turns out that there is an herbal available otc that supplies high amounts of l-dopa. it goes by various names such as "velvet bean" or "mucuna pruriens" and was used long ago (in india) to treat parkinson's disease. its not very expensive either. unfortunately, there does not appear to be any herbal equivalent to carbidopa so, as noted above, most of the l-dopa one receives by taking velvet bean is converted into dopamine in the body and only a modest fraction of this l-dopa reaches the brain.

dopamine has many functions in the brain including roles in behavior, cognition, motor activity, motivation & reward, sexual arousal, sleep, mood, attention, and learning. below-normal dopamine concentrations can cause parkinson's disease and are thought to contribute to attention deficit disorder. above-normal dopamine concentrations have been associated with schizophrenia. here are some related links

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/dopamine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/prolactin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/sexual_arousal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/l-dopa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/carbidopa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/mucuna_pruriens
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/benserazide

i could go on but i'll stop here. the above has enough keywords and phrases to speed you along on your own web-based research (in case you are interested in learning more). remember that wikipedia is your friend.

once again, i am not recommending that anyone self-administer velvet bean or other herbal supplements. dopamine is a powerful neurotransmitter and i'd be extremely cautious about screwing around with neurotransmitters. but i would be interested in hearing from anyone who has tried velvet bean and what effects they have noticed. in particular, has this increased your libido?

[Yankee 617]

just now i ordered 60 tablets, 20 mg each, of tadalifil (cialis) from http://www.edselection.com/ for $139.95 plus $10.00 shipping by international unregistered mail. they say this takes 2-3 weeks. order is supposed to include 4 free sildenafil (viagra) soft tabs as a free bonus.

got an immediate email confirmation. will update on how well this works. i have both real viagra and real cialis to compare with these generics.
after the placing the above order on 9/18/08, i went back to the web site on several occasions to check the status of my order. as i did not choose the more expensive express delivery option, no real tracking information was ever available... however, it did tell me that my order was shipped on 9/23/08.

today, 10/06/08, i received a small light green envelope postmarked 9/23/08 airmail from india (51 rupees). the envelope was well sealed with my name, address & phone number hand-written on the front. the return address, which was stamped on the back, read

p.o. box no. 773
s.p. college post office
pune-4411 030. india

inside was a slightly smaller white sealed envelope with a printed label bearing my name, address & phone number along with a date (24 sep) and some other codes/markings.

inside this white envelope were the pills i ordered, 60 tadalfil tablets (20 mg each), plus the promised bonus of 4 sildenafil soft-tablets (100 mg each).

the sildenafil tablets were sealed in a blister pack with foil backing and a stamp indicating they were manufactured in jun 08 and would expire may 10.

the tadalafil tablets were sealed in blister packs, 10 tablets per pack, with a foil backing. three blister packs were stapled to a white piece of paper and there were two such groups of 3 packs. a stamp on the foil backing of each pack indicated they were manufactured in may 08 and would expire in apr 11.

also enclosed was an information sheet, printed on both sides. one side showed what appeared to be an official looking certificate of analysis for quality control pertaining to the tadalafil tablets. this was dated 12 june 2008 and gave a manufacturing date of jun 08 with an expiration date of apr 11 along with the results of various tests (weight, diameter, thickness, microbial limit, and an assay of active ingredients). on the other side was a nice little printed note (dear customer, you have ordered a quality generic product... blah blah) along with the usual instructions for use of the sort you would normally get with any prescription drug.

a smaller sheet, also printed on both sides, said they included the extra pack of sildenafil pills to show their gratitude and also made various declarations (that the pills were manufactured in india, that they comply with indian law, that they are not a copy or counterfeit of any patented product, that they do not sell these pills directly in the usa or elsewhere, that they were purchased for personal use only and are not for resale, etc).

that's it. everything seems to be perfectly in order.

next is the question of how well these pills perform. i'll need to get back to you on that.

[Heyholetsgo]

For those in the UK, I've been buying Kamagra pills from these guys for about 1 year now and the product is legitimate. Its definetely not as powerful as a real Viagra pill (Id say a 100mg Kamagra = 25mg real Viagra), so sometimes I take 2, but for the price you can't beat it. Free delivery and usually within 1 week (Im in London).

http://www.kamagranow.co.uk/

Cheers

[Novox]

I'd appreciate your detail. I look forward to your next post.

[Yankee 617]

i just noticed that my email in-box received a nice follow-up note on 10/18/08. it reviewed the order i had placed one month earlier and stated that the charge would appear on my credit card as "paid4tabs.com". then it went on to offer me a 7% discount on any future orders and concluded by providing contact information as follows:

>we are here to answer your questions:
>
>telephones:
>+1 800 532 48 08
>+1 718 887 34 24
>+44 200 222 7084
>
>e-mail: contact@recustomer.com
>
>regards, www.edselection.com

just now i popped my first pill from them. i will report on the efficacy later (soon). i want to say that i like the sturdy foil-backed bubble pack they come in. its easy to take some scissors and clip out a single pill while leaving it encased in its foil-backed plastic bubble. then this single pill can be carried in my wallet, secure from mechanical damage, spills, etc.

edit: it has been 21 hours since i took my first pill. the effects are good, comparable to the same dose of branded cialis, and i expect the effects to taper off over the next 15 hours. overall, i give this supplier (and the product that they purvey) two thumbs up. i have no complaints at all.


just now i ordered 60 tablets, 20 mg each, of tadalifil (cialis) from http://www.edselection.com/ for $139.95 plus $10.00 shipping by international unregistered mail. they say this takes 2-3 weeks. order is supposed to include 4 free sildenafil (viagra) soft tabs as a free bonus.

got an immediate email confirmation. will update on how well this works. i have both real viagra and real cialis to compare with these generics.


after the placing the above order on 9/18/08, i went back to the web site on several occasions to check the status of my order. as i did not choose the more expensive express delivery option, no real tracking information was ever available... however, it did tell me that my order was shipped on 9/23/08.

today, 10/06/08, i received a small light green envelope postmarked 9/23/08 airmail from india (51 rupees). the envelope was well sealed with my name, address & phone number hand-written on the front. the return address, which was stamped on the back, read

p.o. box no. 773
s.p. college post office
pune-4411 030. india

inside was a slightly smaller white sealed envelope with a printed label bearing my name, address & phone number along with a date (24 sep) and some other codes/markings.

inside this white envelope were the pills i ordered, 60 tadalfil tablets (20 mg each), plus the promised bonus of 4 sildenafil soft-tablets (100 mg each).

the sildenafil tablets were sealed in a blister pack with foil backing and a stamp indicating they were manufactured in jun 08 and would expire may 10.

the tadalafil tablets were sealed in blister packs, 10 tablets per pack, with a foil backing. three blister packs were stapled to a white piece of paper and there were two such groups of 3 packs. a stamp on the foil backing of each pack indicated they were manufactured in may 08 and would expire in apr 11.

also enclosed was an information sheet, printed on both sides. one side showed what appeared to be an official looking certificate of analysis for quality control pertaining to the tadalafil tablets. this was dated 12 june 2008 and gave a manufacturing date of jun 08 with an expiration date of apr 11 along with the results of various tests (weight, diameter, thickness, microbial limit, and an assay of active ingredients). on the other side was a nice little printed note (dear customer, you have ordered a quality generic product... blah blah) along with the usual instructions for use of the sort you would normally get with any prescription drug.

a smaller sheet, also printed on both sides, said they included the extra pack of sildenafil pills to show their gratitude and also made various declarations (that the pills were manufactured in india, that they comply with indian law, that they are not a copy or counterfeit of any patented product, that they do not sell these pills directly in the usa or elsewhere, that they were purchased for personal use only and are not for resale, etc).

that's it. everything seems to be perfectly in order.

next is the question of how well these pills perform. i'll need to get back to you on that.

[Duralong]

You may consider reading my post under the FKK thread:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=804144&postcount=3442

[Usolinerx]

I bought Viagra and Cialis from www.usolinerx.net as recommended from here. I got both normal and generic of both, so loads of tablets.

Got to say I was overall impressed, and found all types of the tablets worked very well. Delivery time was 12 days, and good value I thought.

I would order from them again.Thanks for your kind words.

Regards,

Usolinerx

[Yankee 617]

Thanks for your kind words.

Regards,

Usolinerx

Dear Usolinerx,

Because you are a commercial entity, please confine your posts to the "Classified Ads" thread. Your posts are certainly welcome there, but I do not feel it is appropriate for commercial entities such as yourself to post in the non-commercial areas of ISG. Thanks for your understanding and cooperation.

Yankee

[Phynicle]

as long as we're talking about herbals, i did some personal web-based research into dopamine over the past 6-8 weeks. this is not a recommendation to anyone (and i have no plans to try anything like this), but i think its interesting.

it seems that increasing the level of dopamine in the brain can increase the libido. that is, unlike viagra or cialis, it actually increases sexual desire and it works equally well in both men and women. for example, patients with parkinson's disease are usually put on drugs that increase the level of dopamine in the brain and they frequently develop "sexual disinhibition disorder" as an unwanted side effect.

one cannot be given dopamine directly as this will not cross the blood-brain barrier. instead, patients are given a dopamine precursor, l-dopa, which can cross the blood-brain barrier. l-dopa is then readily converted (in both the body and the brain) into dopamine. but converting l-dopa into dopamine in the body is not what the doctors want to happen for two reasons: (1) not as much l-dopa reaches the brain, requiring much higher doses of l-dopa in order to get the desired response, and (2) the dopamine generated in the body will create hypertension and other unwanted side effects. so, when the patients are given l-dopa, they are also given a drug called carbidopa. carbidopa by itself has no effect and it cannot cross the blood-brain barrier. however, carbidopa prevents the conversion of l-dopa into dopamine. consequently, giving carbidopa in conjunction with l-dopa prevents the conversion of l-dopa into dopamine in the body and therefore allows more of the l-dopa to reach the brain where it will be converted into dopamine. this means that lower doses of l-dopa can be given to achieve the desired increase of dopamine in the brain (and one won't develop unwanted side-effects like hypertension either). benserazide is used instead of carbidopa in canada and britain but is not approved in the usa.

it turns out that there is an herbal available otc that supplies high amounts of l-dopa. it goes by various names such as "velvet bean" or "mucuna pruriens" and was used long ago (in india) to treat parkinson's disease. its not very expensive either. unfortunately, there does not appear to be any herbal equivalent to carbidopa so, as noted above, most of the l-dopa one receives by taking velvet bean is converted into dopamine in the body and only a modest fraction of this l-dopa reaches the brain.

dopamine has many functions in the brain including roles in behavior, cognition, motor activity, motivation & reward, sexual arousal, sleep, mood, attention, and learning. below-normal dopamine concentrations can cause parkinson's disease and are thought to contribute to attention deficit disorder. above-normal dopamine concentrations have been associated with schizophrenia. here are some related links

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/dopamine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/prolactin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/sexual_arousal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/l-dopa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/carbidopa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/mucuna_pruriens
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/benserazide

i could go on but i'll stop here. the above has enough keywords and phrases to speed you along on your own web-based research (in case you are interested in learning more). remember that wikipedia is your friend.

once again, i am not recommending that anyone self-administer velvet bean or other herbal supplements. dopamine is a powerful neurotransmitter and i'd be extremely cautious about screwing around with neurotransmitters. but i would be interested in hearing from anyone who has tried velvet bean and what effects they have noticed. in particular, has this increased your libido?very interesting.

i'm aware the effects of cabergoline from reading and its libido effects. it achieves what viagra and cialis can't, the increase in libido and the much shorter refractory periods between erections hence more enjoyable sex sooner as opposed to just have a boner with no drive attached. interestingly enough marijuana releases heaps of dopamine into the brain, excessive use can even cause psychosis. but since it doesn't block out proactin i'm not sure what it might do to help reduce refractory periods between erections. for anyone who's ever had marijuana you have to admit you do feel horny, only if you havn't had too much.

[Gentleman Travel]

This is cross-posted from Germany FKK, where we were having a prolonged discussion of viagra that more properly belongs here.
*****************************************************

I guess the best place for this discussion is under "Special Interests -
Viagra" but since we are here, I will put in my 2 cents worth.

I do find Viagra somewhat desensitizing, so it is a mixed blessing.
Yes, I feel like a man of steel, but sometimes with no happy ending.
So better for the girl, but a mixed blessing for me.

Thus it is most useful when you are trying to impress or please the girl.
But also useful if you are trying to perform in imperfect circumstances.
I started taking them when my wife was pretty non-responsive -
in part because she was not doing much to get me going, so I needed a boost;
and in part because I thought rocking her world might change her attitude,
which it did. Now I mix it up judiciously, no pills for normal pleasure,
but a little boost every now and then to spice things up.

I also found the little blue pills useful when stepping out.
Initially a nervous philanderer, I blew a couple of opportunities
by drinking too much or being otherwise too nervous to perform.
The blue pill gives you a real boost and more confidence.
Don't discount the placebo effect.

The other benefit is that Viagra tends to extend your staying power,
post-climax. So if you are banging a girlfriend, more chance to keep
giving her joy after your own happy ending. But this may not be a good
thing if you are using a condom - you may be tempted to continue
pumping and risk the thing coming off or spilling.

But being superman is less essential if it is her job to please me - if she is a pro.
Nevertheless, I took some Vitamin V when visiting an FKK for the first time.
I wanted to make sure that I could fully take advantage of the experience.
Viagra does make you last longer and reload faster. After 15 years of
marriage, I no longer know how often I CAN do it in a few hours -
I am lucky to get once in the evening and once in the morning.
Thus, given the desensitizing effect of Vitamin V combined with
the less-than-ideal early morning offerings at the Palace, I had to
upgrade to BBBJs from both women to be certain of a happy ending.

But it was also kind of ego-boosting to have a girl come onto me,
and for me to put her off by saying I had just finished a session
and needed time to recharge, then for her to slip her hand into
my robe and exclaim that clearly I was ready to go already!

But in an ideal world, the pro would be responsible for making
Mr Happy happy, and I would leave enhancers for when I needed to perform.

Overall, I would say that Cialas has less of a de-sensitizing effect than Viagra,
and is of course longer lasting, but there can be other side effects.

[Gentleman Travel]

No one love sex more than I do! I use them 4-5 times a week and on trips I may use them 3 times a day. Even if I am primed.
Well everybody is different, but taking vitamin V three times a day sounds excessive!

I split tablets and take a half-tablet 30 minutes before action (assuming there is some foreplay as well, so the main event is around the 60 minute zone for maximum effect). And although the effects are strongest within the recommended timeframe (1-3 hours) I find the effects do linger and are conveniently evident in the morning for a second round. So multiple doses within a few hours sounds like overkill to me.

If anticipating multiple rounds, like at a FKK, I would take a dose just before the first round, more as a confidence booster, but mostly relying on nature for the first shot, and vitamin V for quick reloading and the second bout.

[Yankee 617]

Very interesting.

I'm aware the effects of cabergoline from reading and its libido effects. It achieves what viagra and cialis can't, the increase in libido and the much shorter refractory periods between erections hence more enjoyable sex sooner as opposed to just have a boner with no drive attached. Interestingly enough marijuana releases heaps of Dopamine into the brain, excessive use can even cause psychosis. But since it doesn't block out prolactin I'm not sure what it might do to help reduce refractory periods between erections. For anyone who's ever had marijuana you have to admit you do feel horny, only if you havn't had too much.

Thanks for your comments. I had not heard of cabergoline before, but I found some interesting information about this drug here

http://www.cabergoline.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabergoline

Your comments also spurred me to see if my prolactin level had ever been measured. Turns out the answer is yes, 2 years ago, and it was in the normal range. But it also seems the prolactin level is increased by stress, and I've had lots of stress during these past two years. Maybe I can convince my endocrinologist to measure my prolactin level again.

[Phynicle]

Thanks for your comments. I had not heard of cabergoline before, but I found some interesting information about this drug here

http://www.cabergoline.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabergoline

Your comments also spurred me to see if my prolactin level had ever been measured. Turns out the answer is yes, 2 years ago, and it was in the normal range. But it also seems the prolactin level is increased by stress, and I've had lots of stress during these past two years. Maybe I can convince my endocrinologist to measure my prolactin level again.No Worries, as far as i know cabergoline is available on the net, with the dsiclaimer "This is not tested for human consumption" or along those lines to avoid legal and regulatory issues. I'm not advising people to go out and experiment but would love to hear from someone who has ever dealt with these type of drugs before.

BTW Yankee how did you get your prolactin levels tested? was it part of a general health test and blood check at your local GP?

[Yankee 617]

BTW Yankee how did you get your prolactin levels tested? was it part of a general health test and blood check at your local GP?
My Primary Care Physician (PCP) ordered the prolactin test for me 2 years ago. I didn't ask for it and, at the time, I couldn't have told you what prolactin is/does. At the same time, he also ordered a test of my testosterone levels (Testosterone Free Profile) and my glucose serum level. (I was probably complaining of general lethargy and may have mentioned a low libido.) These tests showed my testosterone to be significantly below the normal range (while glucose and prolactin were within the normal range), so I was then referred to an endocrinologist.

A couple months later, before I saw the endocrinologist, I returned from a month-long mongering trip in China and Philippines. During the trip I had occasional assistance from Viagra or Cialis, but it was more like a boost than a necessity. A few days after my return, I visited my endocrinologist and she repeated the testosterone test (as well as a bunch of other tests). Interestingly, my testosterone level was now within the normal range. Consequently, I elected not to treat the low testosterone condition at that time.

Although I did not tell my endocrinologist this, I attribute the improved testosterone level to my mongering activities. Hence I claim that mongering is good for your health (and health insurance companies should be forced to pay for weekly "therapy" with local service providers :-).

Unfortunately, I've had no mongering options since then (long personal story omitted) and another testosterone test, ordered by my new PCP this past Spring, again showed a below-normal testosterone level. So I returned to the endocrinologist and began testosterone replacement therapy this past Summer. I can tell you it has made me feel a whole lot more vibrant & robust... plus I'm now getting spontaneous nocturnal erections again.

[Xdentx]

Scientific journals point out that the developed world is experiencing a dramatic increase in the prevalence of obesity, insulin resistance, poor lipid/cholesterol levels, hypertension, impaired glucose tolerance, and pro-inflammatory states. These risk factors are all key features of the "metabolic or insulin resistance" syndrome and contribute to a number of conditions, including the exploding epidemics of type 2 diabetes and cardiovascular disease.

The interesting thing is that a fair percentage of people with "metabolic syndrome" have low testestorone levels when tested. Supplemental testesterone helps reverse this metabolic syndrome. Some studies have suggested that any male with "metabolic syndrome" have their testerstone levels checked. Testerostone supplements also eventually leads over time to a higher percentage of muscle/fat ratio. I've been on androgel for about a year now and notice a leaner body...less fat and more muscle. If your fasting glucose levels have been creaping up over time, if you're overweight, if you are experiencing erectile dysfunction, I encourage you to ask your physician to check your testerone levels. There is a definite interrelationship that should be examined. Testosterone supplments also contribulte to a more positive outlook on life.

[Samu Ray]

Thank you doctor...

[Xdentx]

Thank you doctor...

You're welcome. By the way, years ago when a patient asked for Viagra, there would be no offer by the physician to test testosterone levels. Thankfully, now it's much more common place to run the tests.

[Yankee 617]

Thank you, Xdentx. Your interesting comments led me to this web site

http://www.agingmale2004.com/

which presents various lectures from the 4th World Congress on the Aging Male (Prague, February 2004). There are several lectures on Testosterone including a Plenary Lecture on "Testosterone and the Metabolic Syndrome".

There is also a link to the 5th World Congress (Prague, February 2006).

http://www.agingmale2006.com/

Info from the 6th World Congress (Tampa, February 2008) is here

http://www.confabb.com/conferences/48266-6th-world-congress-on-the-aging-male

while info from the 1st European Conference on the Aging Male (Warsaw, June 2007) is here

http://www.kenes.com/aging/essam/

Lots of information to peruse at the above links.

While I don't think I meet the definition of "Metabolic Syndrome", I do believe that I have lost weight and increased my proportion of lean body mass as a direct result of being on Testosterone Replacement Therapy these past few months. I can also state that I have a more positive outlook as well. So your comments about the effects of Testosterone Therapy ring true for me.

[Xdentx]

Thank you Yankee 617 for your additional research. I see I now have considerable reading to do. By the way, a little extra work in the gym will probably yield better results for those of us on Androgel...now as opposed to pre Androgel. I personally have been using an eleptical on a regular basis for over a year now and have unusually well defined leg muscles. If I exercised my upper body as thoroughly, I have no doubt I could be in a magazine..at age 62. Not bragging...just pointing out the wonderful side effects of supplementation combined with very regular exercise.

[Yankee 617]

Thank you Yankee 617 for your additional research. I see I now have considerable reading to do. By the way, a little extra work in the gym will probably yield better results for those of us on Androgel...now as opposed to pre Androgel. I personally have been using an eleptical on a regular basis for over a year now and have unusually well defined leg muscles. If I exercised my upper body as thoroughly, I have no doubt I could be in a magazine..at age 62. Not bragging...just pointing out the wonderful side effects of supplementation combined with very regular exercise.
I'm sure what you say is true. I keep telling myself to get to the gym, but have not yet done so. However, I have modified my diet to (a) eat less in general, and (b) avoid fatty foods & sweets... in particular, I now have a salad every day at lunch. This modification, coupled with TRT, has had a fabulous effect: in about 5 months I've gone from 203 lbs to 177 lbs, taken several inches off my waist, tightened my belt by 2 notches, reduced my belly to a slight bulge, and look and feel much better. Now I want to reach about 150 lbs, but diet alone may not get me there... I need to get to the gym. For us older guys (I'll be 55 next month), building muscle mass isn't only to look good in magazines... you feel better and have better quality of life as well as greater longevity. TRT + exercise helps build muscle mass. Glad to hear its working for you. Keep at it... and get plenty of sex, as that's good for you too (reduces stress, improves self-image, good exercise, etc).

[Stevenh]

I have had some impressive results with T-Bomb II which is sold in supplement stores in the US and elsewhere (not where I live, though). To whom it may concern: watch your road rage afterwards ;-)

[Xdentx]

I've noticed that if I bump my doseage of Androgel up while on vacation, I definitely become more agressive and irritable. Not a good thing.

While in Bali recently, I hired a driver to tour me around for the entire day. Unfortunately, I was irritable from a higher than normal Androgel dose and I cut the trip short. Still had to pay for the full day. I regretted it later and I'm quite sure I would have enjoyed the trip if my T levels had been at a more normal level.

Road rage is a definite possibility if you're in the wrong place, at the wrong time, with a high T level.

[Yuiop69]

I bought pills in a legitimate Chinese pharmacy in Zhuhai called Kaixinweige. Any idea what I might have bought?
I asked for Viagra etc and the pharmacist showed this instead, 1 euro a pill, a small bottle of 6 pills, with tons of instructions in Chinese and a suitably looking male Adonis on the box to persuade you that this is the real McCoy.
I've tried it twice. It seems to the trick somewhat, although I can't say that either occasion provided conclusive evidence, but it does give a bit of headache as I might expect from Levitra.
Any ideas? Thanks

[CT Dude]

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=6250772

Mexico City to Hand Out Free Viagra Pills to Men 70 and Older
MEXICO CITY November 13, 2008 (AP)

Mexico City is giving out free Viagra and other impotence drugs to men 70 and older. Mayor Marcelo Ebrard says the city is implementing the plan because sexuality "has a lot to do with quality of life and our happiness."

City Health Secretary Armando Ahued said Thursday that the government will start handing out doses of one or two Viagra, Levitra or Cialis pills on Dec. 1.
Ahued says an estimated 112,000 men 70 or older live in the Federal District, which has a population of 8.7 million. Some 20 million people live in the greater Mexico City area.

[Yankee 617]

I have had some impressive results with T-Bomb II which is sold in supplement stores in the US and elsewhere (not where I live, though). To whom it may concern: watch your road rage afterwards ;-)

I'd never heard of this OTC supplement before, so I looked it up and found that its basically a cocktail of various OTC ingredients thought to increase sex drive and/or testosterone levels.

One of the key ingredients listed is Tribulus Terrestris; more info on this ingredient is here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribulus_terrestris

The page at the above link makes the statement "Independent studies [6] have suggested that Tribulus terrestris extract slightly increases hormone levels, though leaving them in the normal range." but the cited link is broken... this weak statement, together with the broken link/citation, leaves me skeptical as to whether the claims regarding this ingredient are statistically significant or clinically meaningful.

Just my opinion...

[Yankee 617]

I asked my pharmacist whether I might expect any difficulty with customs while transporting my Testim gel on foreign travel. While she felt that I should not have any difficulty (as long as I bring evidence of my prescription along) she could not say anything for certain. However, when I mentioned possibly traveling to South America she suggested that I might be able to obtain it there without a prescription, despite the fact that its a controlled substance here in the USA. Although I've obtained Viagra at a pharmacy in Brazil without a prescription, I've never tried to obtain testosterone this way. Also, even if I could obtain testosterone without a prescription, I would be concerned as to whether I could successfully bring it back to the USA upon my return... and what penalties I might face if I were caught trying to do so.

Can anyone shed some light on these questions?

PS) Interesting pertinent info at this link. Includes statement on Page 27 that steroids are available without prescription in Mexico and Europe.

http://www.ussc.gov/USSCsteroidsreport-0306.pdf#search=%22Anabolic%20Steroid%20Control%20Act%20of%201990%22

[Yankee 617]

Interesting 2006 report from The Endocrine Society presents clinical practice guidelines for Testosterone Replacement Therapy

http://www.endo-society.org/guidelines/final/upload/AndrogensMenGuideline053006.pdf

More clinical practice guidelines here. Including one on Androgen therapy in women.

http://www.endo-society.org/guidelines/Current-Clinical-Practice-Guidelines.cfm

[Ezinho]

I asked my pharmacist whether I might expect any difficulty with customs while transporting my Testim gel on foreign travel. While she felt that I should not have any difficulty (as long as I bring evidence of my prescription along) she could not say anything for certain. However, when I mentioned possibly traveling to South America she suggested that I might be able to obtain it there without a prescription, despite the fact that its a controlled substance here in the USA. Although I've obtained Viagra at a pharmacy in Brazil without a prescription, I've never tried to obtain testosterone this way. Also, even if I could obtain testosterone without a prescription, I would be concerned as to whether I could successfully bring it back to the USA upon my return... and what penalties I might face if I were caught trying to do so.

Can anyone shed some light on these questions?

PS) Interesting pertinent info at this link. Includes statement on Page 27 that steroids are available without prescription in Mexico and Europe.

http://www.ussc.gov/USSCsteroidsreport-0306.pdf#search=%22Anabolic%20Steroid%20Control%20Act%20of%201990%22
I lived in Brasil a few years back and bought injectable testosterone called Durateston 250. I had to see a doctor to get a prescription for it, since it is considered a controlled substance. Having said that I'm sure you could go to a small pharmacy and bribe the pharmacist if you don't have the script, but it's very easy to get and I got the impression that any Dr. will write you one as long as you pay them. BTW, the injectable T was extremely cheap, something like five reais or so per amp.

Having said this, I have no idea if they have the gel version of testosterone in Brasil. If you are using TRT to bring your T levels to normal range, I think the gels are better than the injections, since they keep your levels constant. Injections are more for those who want to build up mass while they are training.

Regarding Mexico, I have never tried to buy T there, but I would be very surpised if you *didn't* need a script. Perhaps the farther away you get from the border, the more lax the farmacias are.

Hope this helped.

[Stevenh]

Interesting reading, Yankee 617. While I would assume, the combination of ingredients is responsible for the production of a higher level of Testosterone, not only one ingredient, I can compare the reaction of my body to the supplement with taking injections of different T derivates (propionate, sustenon etc. if I remember right) for other reasons than inreasing sex drive.

I never did it at the same time, only well outside of cycles.

I feel much more comfortable with my body producing T instead of injecting it, given the potential side effects.


I asked my pharmacist whether I might expect any difficulty with customs while transporting my Testim gel on foreign travel. While she felt that I should not have any difficulty (as long as I bring evidence of my prescription along) she could not say anything for certain. However, when I mentioned possibly traveling to South America she suggested that I might be able to obtain it there without a prescription, despite the fact that its a controlled substance here in the USA. Although I've obtained Viagra at a pharmacy in Brazil without a prescription, I've never tried to obtain testosterone this way. Also, even if I could obtain testosterone without a prescription, I would be concerned as to whether I could successfully bring it back to the USA upon my return... and what penalties I might face if I were caught trying to do so.

Can anyone shed some light on these questions?

PS) Interesting pertinent info at this link. Includes statement on Page 27 that steroids are available without prescription in Mexico and Europe.

http://www.ussc.gov/USSCsteroidsreport-0306.pdf#search=%22Anabolic%20Steroid%20Control%20Act%20of%201990%22

[Jambo]

I am retired military and have the TRICARE medical coverage. I am using a base hospital for my primary care provider, but I could change if I wanted.

Just wondered if any other retired vets have gotten TRICARE to spring for vitamins V or C? Any suggestions for a story line? (look at my new wife doctor, she's 30 years younger than me and hot! Have some sympathy..)

[Gentleman Travel]

I am retired military and have the TRICARE medical coverage. I am using a base hospital for my primary care provider, but I could change if I wanted.

Just wondered if any other retired vets have gotten TRICARE to spring for vitamins V or C? Any suggestions for a story line? (look at my new wife doctor, she's 30 years younger than me and hot! Have some sympathy..)
I don't know how your system works, but probably if you admit to trouble having an erection
(and thus imperils your marriage) you can probably get a prescription and thus coverage. You just cannot say it is for recreation.
You may have to be subjected to other tests, heart monitors, etc, depending
on how thorough your Dr is, but it is worth it to save $$$$$ on vitamin V.

[Goatboy55]

I'm based in UK and have a supply of Kamagra (non-prescription) - will I have a probllem travelling with these pills - are there concerns over legaility in any countries? WOuld it be better buying pills once I'm overseas?

The countries I am interested in travelling to with the pills would be Brazil, HK, Phils.

Any advice appreciated!!

[Stevenh]

I have bought a lot of injectable T in Ciudad de M., in the pharmacies in a sttreet called circumbalación. No prescription needed.


I lived in Brasil a few years back and bought injectable testosterone called Durateston 250. I had to see a doctor to get a prescription for it, since it is considered a controlled substance. Having said that I'm sure you could go to a small pharmacy and bribe the pharmacist if you don't have the script, but it's very easy to get and I got the impression that any Dr. will write you one as long as you pay them. BTW, the injectable T was extremely cheap, something like five reais or so per amp.

Having said this, I have no idea if they have the gel version of testosterone in Brasil. If you are using TRT to bring your T levels to normal range, I think the gels are better than the injections, since they keep your levels constant. Injections are more for those who want to build up mass while they are training.

Regarding Mexico, I have never tried to buy T there, but I would be very surpised if you *didn't* need a script. Perhaps the farther away you get from the border, the more lax the farmacias are.

Hope this helped.

[Gas Can]

I am retired military and have the TRICARE medical coverage. I am using a base hospital for my primary care provider, but I could change if I wanted.

Just wondered if any other retired vets have gotten TRICARE to spring for vitamins V or C? Any suggestions for a story line? (look at my new wife doctor, she's 30 years younger than me and hot! Have some sympathy..)


Don't ask me why but the TRICARE formulary only carrys Levitra. I'm sure it's a money thing. Go see your PCM and get the prescription. They can only write it for six pills a month or 72 pills on a 12 month prescription. If you only need 10 mg, then ask for the 20s and cut them in half, effectivly giving you 144 doses.

Co pay is 9 dollars per script either at local pharmacy or through mail order.

If you don't mind paying out of pocket, they will write the prescription for V or C, but the stuff is outrageous. Something like 14 dollars a pill.

Started using about three years ago when I was active duty. Blood pressure medicine screwing with my junk. Went in and after a few questions "how often do you achieve penetration?" I had a prescription with minimal hassle.

I retired last year. Made an appointment a few months after, walked in and told the doc I needed this re filled. He wrote it with no questions asked.

If your over 40, just walk in and tell them you're having problems around half the time and you want a presription for levitra. If that doesn't work, then go see a civilian doc and get hom to write one. TRICARE still pays. Just remmebr, don't break the 6 pills a month rule or you'll pay out of pocket.

[The Frenchman]

I usually buy my pills in a little shop on the corner on the top floor near the stairs at lohu mall next to the hk border.

If you negotiate well the generic are 30 rmb for box of 4 thats about 5 bucks.

Levitra, cialis and viarga are about 50 per box if you buy 3 boxes thats about 8 bucks per box.

Beleive me they work I ve used them at the german partytreff and got 4 pops out of 1 pill in one nite and I'm 51.

They hide the pills in a cardboard box on the top shelf.

They will start of course with a price of 150 or so but just be brutal and hold out a 50 note, it will do the trick.

There are several other pharmacy shops in the mall and all will sell the pills, this one seems just to be the cheapest I ve found.

Have fun and profit from the deal.

By the way the best way to make a male Chinese friend is to give him a box of the generics and then go to donguan or chicago bar in shenzhen

Have fun and take care

[Kiwi 69]

Has anyone dealt with www.kamagrafast.com who are based in the UK?

Their prices seem very good and delivery claims also. Info appreciated.

[Kiwi 69]

Has anyone dealt with www.kamagrafast.com who are based in the UK?

Their prices seem very good and delivery claims also. Info appreciated.Just after I posted the above I received an e-mail confirming overnight delivery was possible.I placed an order and received it 2 hours ago.Would recommend them 100%.Also their prices are excellent.

[Susu Lover]

Where did this guy get this information from? I will make the TRUTH very easy and understandable. Nitrates (like isosorbide dinitrate or mononitrate) basically relax your blood vessels all over your body and in your heart, specifically. ED medications work through a different mechanism but end up relaxing different blood vessels. So taking nitrates while on ED meds CAN lead to unsafe drops in your blood pressure, basically killing you or knocking you out. The bottom is some of the most wack info and I am really doubting the info on this thread. Geeze.


A quick follow up on Petemcc's quick post. The reason why its dangerous to take ED meds with nitrates is that nitrates oxidize the iron atoms in hemoglobin from Ferrous Iron (2+) to Ferric Iron (3+), rendering it unable to carry oxygen. This condition is called methemoglobinemia and can lead to a lack of oxygen in tissues and consequent pulmonary difficulties.

I understand that ED enhancers combined with alcohol intake can contribute to lower blood pressure along with an associated anti-depressant impact. There are negative health considerations from long term exposure to both alocohol & ED enhancers for the reinforced lowering of blood pressure reason. On this I would welcome others comment ? I am not medically qualified and certainly profess no expertise in this area for others to rely on.

Sharing what I have heard or accumulated over time by experience or discussion. JMPOV

[Jhdjhdjhd]

I am 38, white, very healthy and fit, 5'11" and 165 pounds, thin and muscular. I have never had any cardiovascular or respiratory issues of any kind. Up until a few months ago I typically exercised 2-3 times each week, with a 7 to 8 minute/mile run each workout in addition to moderate weight-lifting. I have always prided myself on having an extremely healthy heart/lung functioning, and enjoyed being one of the rare individuals for whom intensive cardio exercise comes easily and actually feels good as I'm doing it, as if my body needs it and thrives from it.

I got a prescription for viagra (100 mg) about 4 months ago. I have never had any major ED problems, but I have always had issues with delayed ejaculation and, because it sometimes takes me so long to ejaculate, I am not always able to consistently maintain a full erection. It was a minor issue and, with my general practitioner's advice and support, I thought I would simply experiment with viagra to see whether it helped.

The first time I took viagra I took one 100mg pill. It did work extremely well as far as producing a lasting erection, but after I had sex I had one of the most excruciating headaches of my life that lasted for many hours. The next few times I took viagra I took only 50mg each time (each instance spread out by at least a few days if not a week or more), and each time it worked very well and still produced a headache and flushing but the headache was more moderate and was tolerable. I also experimented a few times with taking only 25mg which produced flushing but minimal headaches, but of course had less of an impact on my erections.

After taking viagra a total of maybe 6 or 7 times over the course of 2-3 months, two things started to happen. First, the viagra stopped producing strong, reliable erections, even at 50mg, it seemed not to really do anything, and the very last time I took it, about 2-3 weeks ago, I actually had more trouble than usual maintaining a full erection. Second and much more importantly, I started noticing a dramatically decreased ability to engage in cardio exercise. Instead of easily and pleasurably being able to run a 7-8 minute/mile on the treadmill, after 2 minutes at my normal pace (about 7.5 mph) my heart felt like it was going to explode and I was gasping for air and I had to stop. I could feel my pulse very intensely in my chest and neck and ears in a way I had never experienced before. After a few minutes of resting or walking I could start up again and sustain my running pace for another minute or so but then the same thing would happen. In addition to the heart and breathing problems, my lower legs felt a little numb and tingly and heavy, also a feeling I had never felt before.

Around that time I also started noticing the same kind of heart-related symptoms (feeling my heart beating intensely and feeling like it was going to explode) at even minor physical exertion, such as climbing a flight of stairs or carrying one of my children for a few minutes or running to catch a bus.

Naturally I stopped taking the viagra (I took it a total of approximately 8 or 9 times), and it has now been about 2-3 weeks since I last took any viagra. However, I am still experiencing all of the above cardio symptoms when I try to run, and upon even minor physical exertion. If anything the symptoms seem to be getting slightly worse rather than better. I have engaged in sexual activity twice since stopping the viagra and both times were mostly the same as things had been before I started taking viagra, except for perhaps a touch more difficulty than usual at maintaining a full erection.

It is terribly frustrating and disturbing to have these symptoms when I attempt to exercise and even when I undertake moderate physical exertion, and it is such a dramatic change from the way my body has behaved my entire life that I am scared that some kind of permanent damage has been done to my cardio system as a result of taking viagra.

[Boater Boy]

I am looking for some guidance please. I have used Viagra on occaisons more as an erection booster than really essential. I am currently planning a trip to Singapore and Bangkok. Naturaly while there I don’t want to miss any opportunities and want to keep the little fellow happy as often as possible. I am considering trying Cialis to take advantage of the longer effective time.

With Viagra I have some headaches, not helped by beers, and some indegestion. Uncomfortable but not bad enough to stop using it.

Has anyone switched from Viagra to Cialis? The thoughts of taking 3 tabs for a weeks fun instead of 7 is appealing.

By the way I use 50m Viagra, if I do change does anyone have any idea as to what doseage I should go for.

Any help and guidance would be very much appreciated.

[Darknightlk]

My persioal recomendation is use Vigra because I am using since 2 years.


I am looking for some guidance please. I have used Viagra on occaisons more as an erection booster than really essential. I am currently planning a trip to Singapore and Bangkok. Naturaly while there I don’t want to miss any opportunities and want to keep the little fellow happy as often as possible. I am considering trying Cialis to take advantage of the longer effective time.

With Viagra I have some headaches, not helped by beers, and some indegestion. Uncomfortable but not bad enough to stop using it.

Has anyone switched from Viagra to Cialis? The thoughts of taking 3 tabs for a weeks fun instead of 7 is appealing.

By the way I use 50m Viagra, if I do change does anyone have any idea as to what doseage I should go for.

Any help and guidance would be very much appreciated.

[Chen Geez]

I sometimes have this problem with early release during sex. When i do it the second time with the same person after an hour or so, it seems to last longer.

Is there any medication to take care of this?

Usually when i am looking for a quickie, it affects my performance.

I have never tried viagra or any other medication.

[Bnlee2]

I sometimes have this problem with early release during sex. When i do it the second time with the same person after an hour or so, it seems to last longer.

Is there any medication to take care of this?

Usually when i am looking for a quickie, it affects my performance.

I have never tried viagra or any other medication.When you are doing the deed and when you are almost there. Close your eye and think about watching a baseball game. That may work or think about something other than what you are doing.

[Mac75]

I am from Ireland. Viagra can only be purchased from a pharmacy with a doctor's prescription in my country. I have purchased Viagra online before but approximately one out of every two packages get seized by the customs/revenue which is a real pain.

I am visiting Hong Kong, Singapore and Australia for the month of May. Does anyone know if Viagra or equivalent can be purchased over the counter i.e. without a prescription in any of these countries? Any help or information appreciated.

Thanks

[Halljo]

Hi fellows,

Have anyone tried Kamagra Oral Jelly?

Does it have the same effect as Viagra?

[Gentleman Travel]

With Viagra I have some headaches, not helped by beers, and some indegestion. Uncomfortable but not bad enough to stop using it.

Has anyone switched from Viagra to Cialis? The thoughts of taking 3 tabs for a weeks fun instead of 7 is appealing.

By the way I use 50m Viagra, if I do change does anyone have any idea as to what doseage I should go for.
Yeah, I used to get headaches with Vitamin V and indigestion with Cialis.
First, I would suggest splitting the Viagra pills in half and seeing how that works. Especially if it is just for a little confidence boost you may not need the full strength and will reduce any side effects.

Next, if you switch to Cialis, I would still split the pill in half, again to minimize side effects. Then take it over 2 nights and you will get all the benefits, without the ill effects. And you may get a bonus night without medication.

Personally, I use V when planning a special night, or combatting fatigue, stress or too much to drink. I use C when anticipating a normal weekend of fun and want to make a good impression.
Then I make sure to vary the routine with some unassisted fun to remind myself that there is nothing fundamentally wrong with the machinery, and to manage expectations of the lady involved...

[Frank 8211]

Mac75,

I'm very interested in your post. Didn't realise stuff goes missing. Where do you source the viagra from. , Am also in Irl and was wondering about reputable sources thanks

[Mac75]

Mac75,

I'm very interested in your post. Didn't realise stuff goes missing. Where do you source the viagra from. , Am also in Irl and was wondering about reputable sources thanksI've ordered online from www.usonlinerx.net before who have been mentioned a few times on this forum. The first package I ordered was 20 x Viagra pills. They got delivered to me no problem, I have used most of them and all pills worked fine as expected. The second order was for 30 x Generic Viagra pills. However this order got seized by customs. I got a snotty letter from customs and the IMB (Irish Medicines Board, equivalent of FDA in US) saying that the seized pills would be destroyed and that prescription drugs should not be purchased over the internet as the safety and efficacy of the product cannot be guaranteed, that I should obtain a prescription from a doctor and purchase drugs from a pharmacy. Obviously this is more profitable for the pharmacies and doctors as they can charge top prices and the goverment gets VAT on everything! Anyway I rang usonlinerx.net to tell them what happened and to be fair to them they credited my credit card for the lost order. I think they are a good company it's just the customs that are the problem. However I believe it is the same situation in all EU countries and US aswell that Viagra or equivalent should only be prescribed by a doctor and purchased from a pharmacy.

I have found out from the Hong Kong forum that Viagra or Cialis can be purchased there without a prescription so I'm going to stock up whilst there next month! Failing that I might try and go to a doctor in Ireland and see if I can get a prescription. I don't really need Viagra, I'm 33 years old, it is more as a performace pill for me, however I might have to pretend to the doctor that I'm having ED problems! Anyone know how difficult or easy it is to get a prescription?

[Frank 8211]

thanks for thatand for the speed of reply. i'm very interested in getting some just to try out but id be afraid that some of these companies don't produce genuine products am glad to hear that that company is one that sells stuff thats safe and that works well. you'd really have to know a doctor i think, otherwise you might get sent for all sorts of other tests rather than what you wanted!

[Boater Boy]

Yeah, I used to get headaches with Vitamin V and indigestion with Cialis.

First, I would suggest splitting the Viagra pills in half and seeing how that works. Especially if it is just for a little confidence boost you may not need the full strength and will reduce any side effects.

Next, if you switch to Cialis, I would still split the pill in half, again to minimize side effects. Then take it over 2 nights and you will get all the benefits, without the ill effects. And you may get a bonus night without medication.

Personally, I use V when planning a special night, or combatting fatigue, stress or too much to drink. I use C when anticipating a normal weekend of fun and want to make a good impression.

Then I make sure to vary the routine with some unassisted fun to remind myself that there is nothing fundamentally wrong with the machinery, and to manage expectations of the lady involved...Hi,

Thanks for the advice. I tried taking half Cialis on Friday afternoon and it worked perfectly, in fact I never took the second half until Sunday morning. The only side effect that I had was a bit of a stuffed up nose.

Great advice and help, thanks again.

[Nickc]

hello hello - firstly regards Mac and Frank in Ireland, your Doc should pretty much hand over a viagra prescription. Its no big deal and if he makes a big deal, tell me and i'll fly over and sort him for you. Cheers Simon.
QUESTION QUESTION in New Zealand i simply get a prescription for Viagra,
am i able to take that prescription with me on my travel thru Singapore?
I mean its a medicine and no customs official should have no business regards what my Doctor prescribes me. But of course Singapore is brimming full of idiotic mad rules. Could someone please enlighten me. Cheers Nick

[BionicMan]

Can't translate the whole news but the hessence is that fake pills, originating from Syria have been seized today at Rome Fiumicino airport.
Officially declared as herbal integrators, the pills were actually dangerous as came out from lab analysis.
Packed in yellow blisters making the blue pills looking green (hoping to fool inspections),
Their value in the market is appr 5 mill euro as each pill would have been sold between 5 and 15 € in the black market (including internet).
the shipment was meant for a Bolivian destination and carried a forged logo of a Paraguay pharmacy industry. The South American brand, Pramil; recently acquired the patent and licence from the Viagra producer.
So guys...be alerted...in general on what you buy on the black market.

Stay safe!

[Chang Abula]

Actually its not that easy to get a prescription for ED

My normal GP sells me the trial packs so he can make some $

Another Gp wanted me to do a hormone test!

So I get it from Indian pharmacies. Cheaper but I had to rent a PO box so my girlfriend won't see the package. She does not know.

[Frankfurter]

I used to buy V (Kamagra) cheap at a pharmacy in Pnomh Penh but won't make it there this year. Can somebody recommend a reliable pharmacy for non-fake, low priced Kamagra, or similar, in either BKK or Pattaya? Thanks!

[John Dough]

http://www.impotence-guide.com/uprima.html
Uprima (apomorphine hydrochloride) stimulates production of the brain chemical dopamine, believed to be partly responsible for initiating erections.
Viagra, Cialis, and Levitra - are PDE-5 inhibitors, which work by relaxing the smooth muscles and blood vessels in the penis.

http://www.eurodrugspharmacy.com/uprimainformation.htm
Uprima is a small tablet that dissolves quickly when placed under the tongue, typically producing an enhanced erection response in less than 15 minutes.

http://www.menspharmacy.com/erectile/product_uprima.html
1 box of Uprima 3mg US$60.00

[Reeeflex]

When you are doing the deed and when you are almost there. Close your eye and think about watching a baseball game. That may work or think about something other than what you are doing.Hi,

Try this linc, or google Stud 100 spray.

It is a spray that make your friend less sensitive for up to one hour, depend on where or how much you use.

I use it my self. It works very well.

http://images.google.se/images?sourceid=navclient&hl=sv&rlz=1T4ADBR_svSE258SE258&q=stud%20100%20spray&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

[Irv Washington]

I have used V and it has worked well.

I am thinking of buying "Generic Viagra" which I haven't used before.

Does anyone have any comments on using the following types of Generic Viagra? Successful or not?

- Kamagra

- Silagra

- Intimax

I've seen some posts on this board with generally positive comments about Kamagra. Haven't noticed many posts about the others .....

Also, has anyone bought from www.kamagrafast.com recently? There are some positive old posts about them .... anyone used them recently?

Irv

[Halljo]

As a response to Irv Washington.

I have used Kamagra Oral Jelly a few times with great result. The last time now in my visit to Artemis in may. See reports:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=889733#post889733

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=888975#post888975

But I have to point out that I haven´t tried other drugs or brands.

But definitly gives me better stamina and rock hard on. On the downside, slight headace and flushing in face but nothing that I could not live with. In my case it worked a last for 12h.

[Mac75]

I have a question regarding the expiry date on Viagra. Whilst abroad recently I purchased 2 packs of 30 no. Viagra 50mg pills from a pharmacy where I did not need a prescription. I was aware when I was purchasing them of the expiry date on the 2 packs and that I was unlikely to use all of them by the expiry date which is 1 Sep 2010 but I decided to just take the chance as I figured it would be fine to use pills beyond the expiry date. I know that Pharma companies are known to be extremely conservative with expiry dates on products, they have to be really to protect against litigation. However can anyone add any thoughts as to the potency of Viagra after the expiry date?

[Gentleman Travel]

I have a question regarding the expiry date on Viagra. Whilst abroad recently I purchased 2 packs of 30 no. Viagra 50mg pills from a pharmacy where I did not need a prescription. I was aware when I was purchasing them of the expiry date on the 2 packs and that I was unlikely to use all of them by the expiry date which is 1 Sep 2010 but I decided to just take the chance as I figured it would be fine to use pills beyond the expiry date. I know that Pharma companies are known to be extremely conservative with expiry dates on products, they have to be really to protect against litigation. However can anyone add any thoughts as to the potency of Viagra after the expiry date? OK, I admit I have no special knowledge or expertise in this matter, but really, I don't think you should take these expiry dates too seriously.

For a start, as you suggest, a pharma company is going to be extremely conservative on this, both to avoid litigation and to promote redundancy. And then how fast do you expect a dry compacted coated pill to deteriorate, especially stored in a airtight blister pack?

If Viagara is expensive or difficult to obtain where you are I wouldn't chuck out old pills just because they are past their "best before" date.

Old Pakistani proverb "don't throw out your old bath water until you have new bath water."

[Member #4351]

I´ve been using some which expired more than three years ago. The only difference is that after a year or so, they lose a little strength. So now instead of taking one 50 mg, I´ll take two.

[Jaramas]

I understand that a new medicine is being introduced by the manufacturers of Kamagra called Super Kamagra. This is supposed to be a two in One type. It takes care of ED and Premature Ejaculation ! Have anyone used it and what is their experience !

[FreebieFan]

Had prostate removed some years back and now rely on Viagra or Kamagra (which is great and a perfectly reliable and cheaper alternative.)

Problem is that it takes me hours to achieve orgasm. I sometimes envy those who shoot too soon. Very ocassionally if I'm with a new girl I might get orgasm after 15-20 minutes but often not. Need hand relief to finish.

Anyone have any remedies. I'm over 50 in case thats relevant.

Thanks

[John Dough]

Had prostate removed some years back and now rely on Viagra or Kamagra (which is great and a perfectly reliable and cheaper alternative.)

Problem is that it takes me hours to achieve orgasm. I sometimes envy those who shoot too soon. Very ocassionally if I'm with a new girl I might get orgasm after 15-20 minutes but often not. Need hand relief to finish.

Anyone have any remedies. I'm over 50 in case thats relevant.

Thanks

http://www.entheogen.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16650
Catuaba: the draw back is that it makes you last less...i could easily last 30-40 minutes, and with this 15 minutes is the most i can last. the good thing is that my refractory period decreased drastically from about 20 minutes to less then 5 minutes!!!

Something with Swedish Flower Pollen might help.
http://www.naturalvirility.com/meraplex.html
It has also been shown to increase sexual performance by decreasing the time needed between climax, allowing you to achieve orgasm and then reach orgasm again within a short period of time.

http://www.evitamins.com/product.asp?pid=3829
Ogoplex

[FreebieFan]

http://www.entheogen.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16650
Catuaba: the draw back is that it makes you last less...i could easily last 30-40 minutes, and with this 15 minutes is the most i can last. the good thing is that my refractory period decreased drastically from about 20 minutes to less then 5 minutes!!!

Something with Swedish Flower Pollen might help.
http://www.naturalvirility.com/meraplex.html
It has also been shown to increase sexual performance by decreasing the time needed between climax, allowing you to achieve orgasm and then reach orgasm again within a short period of time.

http://www.evitamins.com/product.asp?pid=3829
OgoplexThank you Sir.

I appreciate the help!

[Pushkin13]

i use cialis (vitamin c), and viagra (vitamin v), and most of the time experienced a dull headache for the following 24 hours.

about 2 months ago, for some reason i can't remember, i decided to hydrate at about the time i used vit. c or vit. v.

the amount of liquid (dilute fruit juice, water, cool weak tea, etc.) i swallowed varied from about 500ml to about 1000ml (about a pint to a pint and a half). this is a large amount for me, as i don't usually drink much water (except in hot weather, of course).

the results, for me, have been useful, and i now wish to share the outcome. the main result (apart from having to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) a little more (but not uncomfortably so), is that my headaches have almost disappeared.

so now, without fail, i drink up to 1000ml of water at about the time i take my tablet.

and so far, so good.

i hope that this information is of interest to others who also experience headache.

if anyone tries hydration, could you please report the outcome (eg. no difference, small improvement, great improvement).

just my experience.

enjoy.

p13

[It Travel]

i use cialis (vitamin c), and viagra (vitamin v), and most of the time experienced a dull headache for the following 24 hours.

about 2 months ago, for some reason i can't remember, i decided to hydrate at about the time i used vit. c or vit. v.

the amount of liquid (dilute fruit juice, water, cool weak tea, etc.) i swallowed varied from about 500ml to about 1000ml (about a pint to a pint and a half). this is a large amount for me, as i don't usually drink much water (except in hot weather, of course).

the results, for me, have been useful, and i now wish to share the outcome. the main result (apart from having to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) a little more (but not uncomfortably so), is that my headaches have almost disappeared.

so now, without fail, i drink up to 1000ml of water at about the time i take my tablet.

and so far, so good.

i hope that this information is of interest to others who also experience headache.

if anyone tries hydration, could you please report the outcome (eg. no difference, small improvement, great improvement).

just my experience.

enjoy.

p13normaly i always drink a lot... water, or eat fruit, some beers to. so nerver experimented what you say, the only thing was some muscular pain after some tay use (vitamin c), but might be consequence of too much drilling too! :)

it

[FieldMouse]

Hi,

Can anyone advise where I can get cheap viagra or cialis in australia? I was in jakarta for a few years and got used to paying their prices, but cannot seem to find any outlets here in sydney, only via a doctor.

Appreciate any infor

Fieldy

[Pushkin13]

Hi,

Can anyone advise where I can get cheap viagra or cialis in australia? I was in jakarta for a few years and got used to paying their prices, but cannot seem to find any outlets here in sydney, only via a doctor.

Appreciate any infor

Fieldy

In Australia, you will need a doctor's prescription.

Cheaper and simpler to import.

I have ordered overseas on a number of occasions and always pleased with value for money.

Enjoy

P13

[Stevie69]

Hello,

Does anyone know whether the "banner" that comes up at the top of the forum, advertising cheap viagra and cialis, is reliable?

Thanks for all responses.

[Eaglestar]

Hello,

Does anyone know whether the "banner" that comes up at the top of the forum, advertising cheap viagra and cialis, is reliable?

Thanks for all responses.

I see the same banner ad. No responses to your post yet :(

ES

[Waldeck2]

All Day Chemist. Check my other report.


Hello,

Does anyone know whether the "banner" that comes up at the top of the forum, advertising cheap viagra and cialis, is reliable?

Thanks for all responses.

[LukeSkyWanker]

Always use vitamin V when in Thailand 50Mg allows me to perform like an 18 year old again (now early 50s) I have just been reading about a tablet called Pforce this contains sildenafil (same as vitamin V)and another ingredient which delays ejaculation. Ideal if you have a hair trigger or after a period of abstinence. Has anybody tried this new stuff, does it make you last longer?




May the force be with you.

[Daidalus]

Hello,

Does anyone know whether the "banner" that comes up at the top of the forum, advertising cheap viagra and cialis, is reliable?

Thanks for all responses.

Tried them.
Product arrived after about 11 days
Generic C 20mg
I normally cut the pills in half.
Does not seem to work as well as the ones I have used in the past.
Will try a whole pill next time but so far I am not happy with the results.
I will be trying a different supplier next time.

[One Wing Low]

Curatabs' super active Cialis soft gells did not work, even when I took the whole pill. Another guy tried the pill and reported no effect.

Curatabs' generic 100 mG Viagra works OK even with 1/4 pill. Cheaper too.

[Daidalus]

Tried them.
Product arrived after about 11 days
Generic C 20mg
I normally cut the pills in half.
Does not seem to work as well as the ones I have used in the past.
Will try a whole pill next time but so far I am not happy with the results.
I will be trying a different supplier next time.

I would like to revise my original comment. I have had two more occasions to try this product and I can only assume the first pill was defective in some way. the other two have performed exactly the way that C is supposed to. If things continue along this path I will have no hesitation in re-ordering from the same company.

[Brazil Specialist]

i have been ordering indian generic viagra for many years. i already bought it twice from this source. i usually buy 90 x 100 mg, as small amounts are prohibitively expensive.

i usually pass on a few to friends, including one md who takes like 30 of the pills and he (as everybody else) is convinced that the generic viagra works all right.

i occasionally pass one pill to visiting rio mongers and all were convinced it works. including the guy i took on a cheap apartment brothel tour and who fucked 13 (!) girls for a total of 150 dollars (no, he did not orgasm with every girl). he probably took the second half pill for his girl #14, a nymphomaniac he took for overnight.


a friend of mine tried their cialis and was not so excited, but maybe that was his impression (after all, the stuff is legally produced by maior international drug companies in india, and legally sells for pennies a pill in indian pharmacies, as reported in the link below, so why should it be fake).

but anyway, take my recommendation for the viagra only. i and my friends, we can vouch for the efficiency of the generic version of viagra from that source (hindgra brand). of course, follow the usual advice and split the pills into 25 or 50 mg portions!

pretty amazing, generic viagra costs 8 cents per pill retail in india, if you see the report below. so it is quite credible if the company says they re-ship the entire order if it does not arrive because customs might confirep001e it.


http://viagragenerics.longlovetabs.com/ the actual site that sells the generic viagra

http://18adultreviews.com/porn-sites/viagra-sildenafil-citrate-news/test-shopping-generic-viagra viagra test shopping report

http://18adultreviews.com/porn-sites/viagra-sildenafil-citrate-news/8-cent-viagra-generic-in-india 8 cent generic viagra in india

[Harrybrett]

Yes there are many people who use generic medication as it it is require to nowadays to get stable sexual life. Medications like kamagra, Viagra etc comes in the category of these medicine. But all these medications has to be taken in proper doses along with proper balanced diet. And precautions has to be taken.

There are generic medicines which comes in jelly forms also in different flavours like banana etc they are kamagra oral jelly, viagra oral jelly etc as these are in jelly form they are easy to swallow so prefer by mostly old people.

[Otari]

It is possible to buy Viagra in Belgium, Germany or Netherlands in the pharmacies or in retail (not order by Internet) without a medical prescription?

[Brazil Specialist]

Yes there are many people who use generic medication as it it is require to nowadays to get stable sexual life. Medications like kamagra, Viagra etc comes in the category of these medicine. But all these medications has to be taken in proper doses along with proper balanced diet. And precautions has to be taken.

There are generic medicines which comes in jelly forms also in different flavours like banana etc they are kamagra oral jelly, viagra oral jelly etc as these are in jelly form they are easy to swallow so prefer by mostly old people.

Viagra works faster if you let it melt very very slowly under the tongue. Tastes bad, so the jelly just tastes better, that is all.

Yes, one should know what one is doing and not violate all the rules, like most mongers here drink together with Viagra. On the sites I quoted there are long instructions for Viagra, for download. But nobody usually reads the stuff




It is possible to buy Viagra in Belgium, Germany or Netherlands in the pharmacies or in retail (not order by Internet) without a medical prescription?

I think in all countries you need a medical prescription for Viagra.
In Brazil you need one too, but nobody cares and you get all normal prescription drugs without prescription.

Valium etc you need a prescription, as they need to retain the prescription in the pharmacy.

[Optimist]

Brazil Specialist - thanks for your tip about a supplier (your post of 16 oct). It has proved reliable (altho' perhaps also led to additional spam e-mails). Thanks again

[Brazil Specialist]

Brazil Specialist - thanks for your tip about a supplier (your post of 16 oct). It has proved reliable (altho' perhaps also led to additional spam e-mails). Thanks again

I have some suspicion about this creating spam, too.

Please whoever got spam, send me private message (leave your email in case you have no private message privileges). Write in detail if the spam started at that time after the order and send me all the COMPLETE email headers. There is some special command to see COMPLETE email headers.

It is absolutely mandatory to have throwaway email addresses for Viagra, Porn, and some other enterprises. Just open another hotmail or gmail. Actually, there is a company that provides throwaway email

http://www.hidemyass.com/anonymous-email/ it creates email adresses that are valid only for a day or a few days. Very clever!!

I think I will place an order from an email exclusively created for that purpose, in order to PROVE in case it comes from there.

[Freebie Sevman]

Viagra ....
I think in all countries you need a medical prescription for Viagra.
......Hell, I even buy Augmentin - antibiotic - over the counter!!

I like GENAGRA, generic from India, 4 - 25mg tabs in Ukraine cost $10 usd.

[El Culion]

It is possible to buy Viagra in Belgium, Germany or Netherlands in the pharmacies or in retail (not order by Internet) without a medical prescription?
Definitely not!

[FreebieFan]

I think in all countries you need a medical prescription for Viagra.

In Brazil you need one too, but nobody cares and you get all normal prescription drugs without prescription.Wrong... Hong Kong, Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines can buy at some pharmacies with no scrip need

[Golfinho]

Wrong. Hong Kong, Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines can buy at some pharmacies with no scrip needWold be nice to see a list of countries where Sildenfil (the generic) can be bought over-the-counter. With Prices.

Within the past year, I've seen generic viagra priced at less than $3 for 50 mg in:

Costs Rica, Thailand, Colombia, Cambodia

For $5 and up in: Albania, Ukraine, Macedonia. And Brazil.

[Member #3428]

Wold be nice to see a list of countries where Sildenfil (the generic) can be bought over-the-counter. With Prices.

Within the past year, I've seen generic viagra priced at less than $3 for 50 mg in:

Costs Rica, Thailand, Colombia, Cambodia

For $5 and up in: Albania, Ukraine, Macedonia. And Brazil.

3 what? USD? 3 USD for 50 mg of generic V in Asia is high.

[Ajayj80]

delhi india. 4 tablets of penegra 100 mg strength = 94 rupees.

thats around 2 us dollars

i don't need 100 mg so i take half of a 100 mg tablet.

thats 8 'doses' for 2 us dollars.

[Rothman]

Here in Australia, you can certainly buy essential fortifying vitamins for mongers, the V&C over-the-counter without a prescription, at many if not all pharmacies. They call them "Chemists" here.

The chemists here are Chemist Warehouse, Amcal, MyChemist, just to name a few. These are independent chemists trading under chain names.

Just walk up to the counter at the back of the shop which is usually signed as "Professional Service" and ask there. The ones who serve behind the counter are qualified pharmacists or student-pharmacists on vacation work. (The ones up front are just check-out chicks). Please do not be embarrassed. Go ahead and ask at the back counter. A seasoned monger like you should not have any shred of modesty to be embarrassed about anything.

Not like when I was still very young in the prehistoric days, I remember walking into a chemist to ask to buy condoms. Normal harmless situation, right? WRONG! I was so innocent then and I was so. O. O embarrassed I turned red and giggled myself silly out of the shop!

[Rothman]

Apologies to all for double posting two of my reports. May be Jackson could delete the duplicates, please.

I tried to attach two graphics to go with the see and the V but they didn't get through. I will try again now. Am I just too new and too old for this caper?

Here it goes again; prices good in June 2009

Uh-oh, just discovered they were over "regulation" size. Told ya, ah was too old for this Anyways, so I did a snip job. Sounds painful, doesn't it?

[Waldeck2]

Google alldaychemist, from India. I have used these for about 5 years. With the double pill offer you can cut a .60 US pill in half and get it down to .30 US.

[Fireice Uk]

I think this is the cheapest UK site - http://www.genuine-kamagra.com, they sell a whole pack for a fiver and have free next day delivery.

[Erick Shultz]

Has anyone tried Filagra. Its a Generic Viagra that comes from India, My uncle gave me some to try and it says Dadha Pharm on the packaging(Filagra-100).

I do not take it though because Viagra gives me a bad headache.

I want to know if anyone has tried this and if it worked for them?

I was giong to pass it on to my dad when I go visit but wanted to know beforehand so I don't give him some useless crap.

[Erick Shultz]

Hey guys,

I mailed those to my 65 yr old dad and they worked great for him. He has been using the real V, but said he thought this generic V was even stronger than the brand name V. I'm going to call my uncle today to ask him which site he ordered from and the other details about this since my pops wants more. If anyone posts here saying they want the site name and other relevant info I will put that link up next time I visit here.

[Halljo]

Hi guys.

I read most of these forum some time ago and I´m pretty sure it has been posted or reportedbefore, but I couldn´t find it again, so my question is?

Can anybody to buy Vigara, Cialis or similar in China. Is it avaliable in common drugstores in the shelves or is it only over the counter?

Thanks beforehand.

[Wanking]

I had using Cialis and Viagra for a few years now, mainly on my sex trips to Germany. I only need these meds after alot of fucking and cumming. Problem with both Viagra and Cialis is they make my cock feel a little numb, and they take away a little of the feeling. Also I sometimes find it very hard to cum after taking these pills.

After some research It appears Levitra has less side effects. I ordered some Levitra and have taken about 12 tablets to date, both on my trip to Thailand in January and my recent trip to Germany last week.

After taking Levitra I don't lose any feeling in my Penis, like I do with Cialis and Viagra. Also I am able to cum as normal. So I am getting all the benefits without any noticeable side effects. I reckon the effect from one tablet lasts around 8 hours. Definitely Levitra is the best pill for me.

I ordered my Levitra from www.usolinerx.net , a company I have been using for years now.

[Golfinho]

3 what? USD? 3 USD for 50 mg of generic V in Asia is high.$ = a U.S. dollar sign.

It would be useful to see a list of countries where V, C et. al. generic or otherwise over-the-counter, no scrip availablility. can compile. Earlier this month, bought 2-pack of 50 mg branded V in centro in RJ for 33 reales. Much better effect than the generic chewable on offer in Colombia at $4-5 a dose.

[AM0751]

I ordered my Levitra from www.usolinerx.net , a company I have been using for years now.Hi Wanking,

Do you use the generic ones, or the real ones?

[Laimonas123]

one foot in the grave, the other on a banana peel.

[Praj4]

100mg tab works wonder on ur ED problem if taken with hungry stomach and not on filled one --This is especially true foe middle aged persons like me.

[Jojosun]

I think this is the cheapest UK site - http://www.genuine-kamagra.com, they sell a whole pack for a fiver and have free next day delivery.In the past i used www.kamagrafast.co.uk . found them ok,and they do other products as well.

But your link seems to be cheaper . have you tried them?

Advice appreciated.

[Johndao]

In Vietnam 100mg Majegra from India goes for 25,000 Dong or $1.25 US. Local brand Cialis called c.Ales goes for the same at 20mg. All works fine, same ingredients as the original.

Extra Bonus: In Vietnam it's easy to meet lots and lots of girls to use it on and they won't set you back much at all.

JD

[Jojosun]

In Vietnam 100mg Majegra from India goes for 25,000 Dong or $1.25 US. Local brand Cialis called c.Ales goes for the same at 20mg. All works fine, same ingredients as the original.

Extra Bonus: In Vietnam it's easy to meet lots and lots of girls to use it on and they won't set you back much at all.

JDI am not worried about the Dongs. More worried by what I read about vietnam girls being difficult to test the V s & Cs on them.

[Carla South]

Generic VIagra which contains Sildenafil Citrate enables many men with ED to respond to sexual stimulation.

http://www.x-generic-pharmacy.com/viagra.html $1.02 per pill

[Miami Bob]

Dr Sex recomended to employ with viagra for super response.

Has anyone tried this stuff alone or in combination with viaga? Info would be appreciated. I will be trying this soon with and without combination with viagra.

This was recommended for when this lates 50's guys want to be a pig -- daily sex and somedays doubles. viagra for this level of activity requires sperm management or it may require higher doses, so doc suggested to try this stuff.

[Cunning Stunt]

I am assured that this is the head office of the company that market viagra. Anyone confirm?

Would be great if it were true:D.

[Rockhunter]

Vyaghra: Sanskrit word for tiger; thus, Viagra. Clever choice of name for a medication to aid in "erectile dysfunction." Perhaps the availability of this drug will deter men from encouraging the traffic in tiger parts that comprise traditional Asian treatments for what was formerly known as "impotence."

[Fun And Sun]

I ordered my Levitra from.

www.usolinerx.net

, a company I have been using for years now. I used this site to order some Kamagra, arrived in a few days no problem, but felt it was a bit pricey. Was a bit surprised that the package was sent from India, thought that it was a US site. Oh well, it came out good in the end.

[Clydesdale]

I ordered from.

http://www.raymeds.com/

Good price at $104 US for 125 pills of 100mg generic viagra. They advertise free shipping on orders over $100, but I couldn't figure out how to get the site to give me the free shipping, so I went ahead and paid $20 for express shipping. I messaged customer service about that, so they threw in 15 extra viagra, a 10 pack of cialis 20mg and a 10 pack of levitra 20 mg. For some reason I felt uneasy about it, but felt protected because I used a credit card. They delivered in about 10 business days from India, most of that time in customs. I tested the product and it works well. This is just a consumer report for those interested.

[Harry Dude]

Hi guys.

Can anybody to buy Vigara, Cialis or similar in China. Is it avaliable in common drugstores in the shelves or is it only over the counter?

Thanks beforehand. I have seen what appeared to be genuine Viagra for sale in the gift shops in large international hotels such as Crowne Plaza in Beijing. So obviously. No prescription required.

[Dan Koll]

I have ordered viagra from.

http://pharmavillage.com/

And I am happy with my buy order.

Only 0. 80$ per pill.

20 gift Generic Viagra pills to every order for more than 100 pills.

7% discount for returning customer

[Wanking]

Hi Wanking,

Do you use the generic ones, or the real ones? I use the real pills, but I have taken the generic ones in the past, and they work ok.

We are talking about pills from http://www.usolinerx.net/ BTW

[Winthorp]

I use the real pills, but I have taken the generic ones in the past, and they work ok.

We are talking about pills from.

http://www.usolinerx.net/

BTWAny trouble importing them from the Customs and Excise?

[Dogend]

Hi guys.

I read most of these forum some time ago and I'm pretty sure it has been posted or reportedbefore, but I couldn't find it again, so my question is?

Can anybody to buy Vigara, Cialis or similar in China. Is it avaliable in common drugstores in the shelves or is it only over the counter?

Thanks beforehand. Just returned from China and saw big posters advertising Viagra outside several pharmacies, so went in to take a look. Not cheap. Single 100mg tab around 140rmb, pack of 5 x 100mg around 480rmb. Packing is not the normal smallish rectangular box though. A larger box. In the same display case they had cialis and levitra in normal packs. No prescription required for any of them.

[JackTheLad2]

Just returned from China and saw big posters advertising Viagra outside several pharmacies, so went in to take a look. Not cheap. Single 100mg tab around 140rmb, pack of 5 x 100mg around 480rmb. Packing is not the normal smallish rectangular box though. A larger box. In the same display case they had cialis and levitra in normal packs. No prescription required for any of them.I must admit I would be a bit wary and cautious about buying viagra etc in these places. I'm not convinced they will always be genuine and I'm not sure you can tell the difference, or for that matter, what it might be doing to you.

I'm on medication for heart related problems and get my viagra from the Dr on a private prescription so I know its genuine. I would be a bit worried shoving chemicals into me that I was not sure of! I have bought cialis before in Hong Kong (no prescription required) and it seemed OK but just be careful.

[County Library]

Will be in all 3 countries next week and don't have time order online.

Can Viagra or similar be bought in Germany / Netherlands / Belgium without a prescription?

Thanks

[Crocodilechik]

Guys, looking for a supplement to aid me, will be having a huge amount of sex over next few months and need a little extra help. A little extra hardness, quicker recovery and extrra jizz would be good.

Was in Holland and Barrett yesterday and they have

Viapro.

http://www.hollandandbarrett.com/pages/product_detail.asp?pid=1490&prodid=1606&cid=264&sid=0

And

Prelox.

http://www.hollandandbarrett.com/pages/product_detail.asp?pid=846&prodid=909&cid=264&sid=0

Are these any good and has anyone used them or recommend them?

[Wanking]

Will be in all 3 countries next week and don't have time order online.

Can Viagra or similar be bought in Germany / Netherlands / Belgium without a prescription?

ThanksI don't think so.

[Wanking]

Any trouble importing them from the Customs and Excise?I never had any problems and I order from http://www.usolinerx.net/ fairly often. I also sell some of the pills to my mates for a decent little profit. Helps pay for my sexcations.

[County Library]

Guys, looking for a supplement to aid me, will be having a huge amount of sex over next few months and need a little extra help. A little extra hardness, quicker recovery and extrra jizz would be good.

Was in Holland and Barrett yesterday and they have

Viapro.

http://www.hollandandbarrett.com/pages/product_detail.asp?pid=1490&prodid=1606&cid=264&sid=0

And

Prelox.

http://www.hollandandbarrett.com/pages/product_detail.asp?pid=846&prodid=909&cid=264&sid=0

Are these any good and has anyone used them or recommend them? Thanks.

Some reviews.

http://www.viaproreviews.co.uk/

Suggest this.

http://www.capatrex.co.uk/

Failing that.

http://www.fredaldous.co.uk/product_533180001.htm