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waawaaweeewah!! very nice! i like!
waawaaweeewah!! very nice! i like!
... going to watch your movie, dude!
jagshemash! please, yes, or i will be execute!!
please, you can use my sister. she #3 prostitute in all of kazahkstan. please.
i go to america. but first i go fkk. it is very nice... waawaaweewah!
thank you, jakyo. i like you...
Borat,
Is that in a new ranking for 2006, or did one of the 3 that were ahead of her last year die of syphillis?
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The sad thing is that roemerforum actually used to have a vote for the top 3 prostitutes in germany, and would give out prizes. And I know one of the other forums has a Miss Fuck & Blow contest too
jagshemash! please, yes, or i will be execute!!
please, you can use my sister. she #3 prostitute in all of kazahkstan. please.
i go to america. but first i go fkk. it is very nice... waawaaweewah!
thank you, jakyo. i like you...
... I've met one woman from Kazakhstan so far: Katarina at Blue Note.
At least she said she was from Kazakhstan.
As the Roemer have often said, the true origins of some of these women are not easily determinable particularly if they come from what used to the USSR.
In the end identifying if she is from Ukraine, Belarus, etc... all comes down to being identify her accent in Russian.
Can't wait for the Borat "movie film" to be released in theaters! You will not be execute!
...
In the end identifying if she is from Ukraine, Belarus, etc... all comes down to being identify her accent in Russian.
And even that is nearly impossible. Incredibly for such a large language area, there are hardly any regional accents in Russian. Ochen' zhal'!
And even that is nearly impossible. Incredibly for such a large language area, there are hardly any regional accents in Russian. Ochen' zhal'!
I learn something new every day.
Danke!
Hi guys,
I am new to this thread, not the forum though. Well, I have gonethrough the various threads here looking for FKKs around Munich, where I shall be next month or so. All I have been able to come across is one Colosseum which sounds like 45 mins from munich. I will really appreciate if any of you senior members can help me out with any info on FKKs or Partysen places near Munich, or just let me know where to look.
P.S ;Do the girls in FKKs work on the side when they are not in club...will it be ok to ask for an afternoon session at one's hotel. Lastly as I dont speak any german, will it be a problem at all while in FKKs or Partysen.
Hi guys,
I am new to this thread, not the forum though. Well, I have gonethrough the various threads here looking for FKKs around Munich, where I shall be next month or so. All I have been able to come across is one Colosseum which sounds like 45 mins from munich. I will really appreciate if any of you senior members can help me out with any info on FKKs or Partysen places near Munich, or just let me know where to look.
P.S ;Do the girls in FKKs work on the side when they are not in club...will it be ok to ask for an afternoon session at one's hotel. Lastly as I dont speak any german, will it be a problem at all while in FKKs or Partysen.
... on this forum. Just a couple of posts down you will see a section on southern clubs.
Spend a little bit of time doing research and you will find it. No sense repeating what is already here.
Just be aware that you will not be where the real action is. Its further north.
I've never really met girls working on the side. At the clubs they are safe, can work as much as they want, come and go as they please. The escort side of the business has other challenges which some of them don't want to deal with.
You will need a big stack of 50 euro bills to make this happen.
The problems you will have not speaking German are surmountable. You need to brush up on your Polish, Russian and Romanian though.
Happy hunting.. and don't forget to file a report.
Or better yet (and I propose this to all newbies), go find Meindorfer's list of southern clubs and visit them. They are all off the beaten path and we would all benefit from having reports of them.
Is this a deal?
On The Road
10-29-06, 19:31
I don't think I can get search to work for this. What are the rules about in and out privileges at the different partytreff clubs like Dorsten, Osnabruck, Dolce Vita? Can I leave to check in at a hotel, or to get dinner and then return? How about at the FKKs like GoldenTime, Ying Yang, and Heavens Gate?
I quote this interesting question posted by AbleGray on the Partytreff forum, just because I'm interested too.
I'm mainly interested in FKK Cocoon and in GoldenTime, that I manage to visit in a few days on my next quick mongering holiday weekend.
Do anyone knows if is it possible to check out and then re-enter on same day without paying double entrance fee?
Thanks.
About the question of re-enty at FKK clubs: I believe most (if not all) clubs will allow entry/re-entry. It is not to the club's disadvantage if a guest comes and goes during the day. Even if it is not part of the stated "official" club policy, almost all clubs will/do as a matter of course grant this priviledge to Stammgaste (Regulars). It should also extend to first time visitors or "tourists." Just mention to the receptionist your intention to leave and come back later as you fork over the Eintritt (Entry) fee. Tell them you have an important business meeting or whatever, and you assume it wont be a problem if you disappear with a re-entry pass at some point during the day/evening. As I say, most top clubs have this policy anyway and grant it daily/nightly to many of their Regular Deutsche guests, so asking for will just place you in the category of "Guest in the know." If the recepionist gives you negative vibes on this, just ask to see the manager to discuss this special request. It should really not be a problem...
Remember: Only Cockroaches check in but don't check out!
Ortos
Hello,,:
As usual, my plane was late arriving so missed first train to Dusseldorf, and thus missed a day of entertainment.
On Oct 28, I visited FKK Dusseldorf, which is the new name of a previous club at the same location (La Dolce Vita? ). As has been posted on this site, getting to this club via Public Transportation is easy and inexpensive.
Address of club is ---Düsseldorf-Reisholz, Briedestrasse 44--
From Main Train station - Dusseldorf HBF, it is about a 10 minute train ride to the -Düsseldorf-Reisholz stop (Approx 4. 00 Euros return) - You can check the train schedule in the HBF station or simply ask one of the friendly staff (in the DB Ticket Office in the HBF station) who will point you in the right direction. Train runs back and forth - twice per hour to this location until late. Taxi is approx 35 E. Each way.
I'll repeat the directions for those who may have missed it earlier post.
Upon exiting train at Düsseldorf-Reisholz stop, go down steps and take the exit marked "Henkel". Upon reaching street, look to the right and you will see a Shell Station. Perhaps an 1/8th of mile up the street. Cross the street and walk to Shell STation. Grab a Red Bull at the Shell Station.
Make a left at the Shell Station to Kappleler Str and walk down to the 4th street which is Breidestr and make a left. Second house on left is marked with large numbers 44 and you are there. Hit the buzzer and you are let in. 40 E Entry. 30. 00 E per session. All drinks are extra, beer and alcohol are served.
Very little English was spoken but with a little sign language, I ordered a Vodka and Orange Juice (Screwdriver. Hmmmm). The young lady measured out 3 shots of vodka into the glass and added orange juice.
I thought to myself, that's a generous drink. Later when paying bill (you settle up bill when you leave), I discovered that she had charged me for Three drinks! 3 E x 3 = 9 E. Coffee is 2 E
The club is small, showers and lockers are in the basement. Whirlpool is available for 250 E (! ) but I was told that " you can do anything for that price ". And that "champagne was included". I did not bother to investigate that option. There is an outdoor lounge area however weather was overcast and chilly so did not investigate this.
I arrived mid- afternoon and there were about 6 ladys there, all in the 5-6 range, nothing very exciting and thus I was very dsiappointed. One person who spoke a bit of English told me that the club had been open until 5: 00 am the night before so "all of the girls were home resting". I decided to wait around for a bit. And thankfully, the skies parted and a beautiful Italian lady appeared from the mists.
Young, beautiful, natural large breasts, no tatoo's, nose rings, etc. And a smile that make a heart melt. I immediately initiated a conversation, she had limited english but we were able to communicate enough to get to the room. This lady, without question has some of the best oral skills that I have ever experienced. Real talent. And I mean this.
After a shower and a coffee, I waited around a bit, a few other lady's arrived but again, in the 4-5-6 category. Nothing worth writing home about.
So. The Italian beauty and I had another session. Equally as nice.
I rested for a bit and then enjoyed a very nice catered Chinese meal that was put out for the 8-10 customers who were in the club. It was delicious, perhaps the best food (cuisine) that I've enjoyed in a FKK Club.
All in all, the club is average and had the Italian beauty not been there, I (probably) would not have selected any of the other ladys there, as they were of average to low quality (IMO). Of course, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. This was a Saturday afternoon so perhaps later in the evening, the better looking talent appears. Their Website makes the club look great. And again, perhaps later in the evening, some more attractive women appear.
On to Goldentimes
Strat
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Greetings:
Here is my report from recent trip to Goldentimes FKK club (near to Dusseldorf)
Getting to Goldentimes via Public Transportation from Dusseldorf HBF (Main Train Station) is easy and inexpensive.
Every hour there is a train which leaves Dusseldorf HBF and which has a stop at Kaldenkirchen (Kaldenkirchen station). Trip to Kaldenkirchen takes about 45 minutes from Dusseldorp HBF.
On the train, Stops are NOT announced so you must watch for the stop (there are signs at each stop, which lists the station but also you can time it, German trains run very efficiently so if arrival is listed at 14: 45. Then arrival will be very close to 14: 45. Trains return to Dusseldorf HBF until about 11: 00 pm but best to check this before leaving. Check the yellow train schedule in the Dusseldorf HBF or better yet, consult with one of the friendly agents in the DB Ticket office (in the Main Dusseldorf Train station) -- there are agents at the ticket counters but also agents, on the floor, at the computerized ticket machines. In fact, I recommend consulting the agents, . For people who are not accustomed to European train system. Simply tell the DB ticket agent what time (s) you would like to leave to Kalderkirchen and what time (s) you would to return and they will give you a print out, with all the necessary information I. E. Times, gates, etc. The printed schedule will give you the times, gates, etc. You can buy your tickets at that time as well, you do not have to select a departure or return time at that moment. Cost to Kalderkirchen is 8. 90E each way.
Upon arriving at Kalderkirchen, you go down the steps and over to the other side of the tracks to the actual train station. (there is a restaurant there that is, sometimes, open) Usually, and I say usually, there are cabs waiting. However, I recommend that once you know what time you will leave Dusseldorf and your arrival time, that you call Goldentimes and advise them of your arrival time and they will ensure that a cab is waiting. Last year, I arrived at Kalderkirchen station, and had to wait for a cab. Freezing! It is about a 10 minute cab ride from train station to Goldentimes. Cab ride is approx 12 E. Each way. I've asked the management at Goldentimes if they could provide complimentary transportation to and from Kaldenkirchen train station and they said that they would consider it.
Goldentimes is not one of the larger clubs but IMHO, it is one of the best managed. Everything is clean, and continually being cleaned. Lady's bring a clean sheet to the room for each session, etc. Little details like this are the sign of a well managed establishment. I arrived mid afternoon and there were approximately 20 lady's in residence, with perhaps 10 of them in the 8 + range. Bingo!
If you are a new visitor to Goldentimes, be sure to ask for a tour and also how to use the locker. You open and close your locker with your wrist band which is some type of computerized gizmo. Very high tech! . But you need to understand how it works. I saw one person close their locker and did not lock it properly as he did not understand how it worked. Being the good samaritan, I showed him how it worked. And he offered to "buy" me a beer. Which by the way, is free at Goldentimes, unlimited for those who wish to partake, 4-5 different variety's. All other drink are free and the mimosas were particularly tasty. The club is not large and tends to get smoky in the main lounge, normally this would not have bothered me but as I have been trying to quit smoking (cigarettes). This did bother me. A little. Sauna is available and is clean, also an outdoor whirlpool. There is an outdoor lounge area and in fine weather, a large lawn area with chairs, etc. Massuese is available, for reasonable rates. Of course, a Kino room. Session rooms are both in main building and also outside cabins. In my visits to Goldentimes, I have found the service staff to very friendly and efficient (I. E. Receptionists, bar staff, etc). There has always been someone who speaks English, which is helpful.
OK, on to the good stuff. IMO, Goldentimes offers some of the most attractive women of any of the clubs that I have visited. All shapes and sizes but with a higher ratio of the 8 + women. Entry is 50 E and Sessions are 50E, with extras costing extra. Ask at front desk, if in doubt, as to cost of extras.
After relaxing for a bit, I had a session with a lady from Eastern Europe, an A plus session. All around. A shower, a sauna, then some fine German cuisine. Some type of pork dish, with saurkraut and a bit of salad to build up some stamina. I was looking for the same Eastern European lady for a second session and lo and behold. There is X. Another Eastern European lady whom I'd had several previous sessions with in April. Being the distinguished gentleman that I am, X immediately remembered me and quickly commandeered me to a room, whereupon I was given an extra special treatment. Most memorable. The thought of which still warms the cockles of my. Heart. Ahem.
After trying to regain some additional stamina for one more session, I packed it in, asked reception to call me a cab and took the train from Kalderkirchen back to Dusseldorf HBF. I suspect that there may be some small hotels out that way, but I wanted to see the Caravaggio show at the Kunst Palace museum so opted to stay in the city, on this visit.
IMO, Goldentimes is one of the better clubs. It is small but in the spring/summer months, they have a large lawn area which would act as additional space. The quality of the talent is equal to that of World, Happy Garden, etc and the management is well aware of the customer service concept.
The same management has recently opened another club called The Living Room (url = fkk-living. De) I am advised that cab from Dusseldorf to Living Room is approx 35 E each way. I did not have chance to visit but assume that if this club is under the same management as Goldentimes, that it will be a good. In the meantime, I'll work on figuring out a train route to the Living Room! Will look forward to a report on The Living Room.
Happy Hunting! Strat
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
On Oct 28, I visited FKK Dusseldorf, which is the new name of a previous club at the same location (La Dolce Vita? ). As has been posted on this site, getting to this club via Public Transportation is easy and inexpensive.
Address of club is ---Düsseldorf-Reisholz, Briedestrasse 44--
... of the name change from Dolce Vita to FKK Duesseldorf then. Briedestrasse 44 was indeed the address of the Dolce Vita club.
And yes, I can confirm that your directions on how to get there via S-bahn are correct as I've taken the train there myself.
Thanks!
This should also eliminate the confusion which arises in distinguishing between the FKK Dolce Vita club in Duesseldorf and PT Dolce Vita in Wagenfeld.
Xavier Yves
11-06-06, 00:15
I was told by one of my friends who addicts to FKK about a condom accident that happened on him recently.
The FKK club he went is one of the clubs we talked about here. For privacy reason, I will not mention the name but it's a more German clients middel-sized club comparning the big international ones .
The girl he met was a Polish girl who is 20 years old. Everything went normaly at the beginning. Nod, sit down, talk and go to the room. After a BBBJ, he asked the condom and the girl gave to him but not put on by herself (normally girls are always the one who put on the condom, aren't they? a protocol?). My friend put on the condom by himself and started fucking. He said this girl's pussy was so tight that he barely can put his dick into right position and this girl didn't help him to do that (normally girls always lead guys' dick to come in their pussy, don't they? another protocol?) . However, after three positions, my friend decided to finish with classic position. My firend tried hard to cum and fucked as a hammer. He said he even felt his glans was little hurt. He ignored this and finally cumed after lasting 6 or 7 mins. Then the condom accident happened. Both the girl and himself saw the head of condom was broken when he pulled his dick out of girl's pussy!
My friend said he was shocked at that moment and pretty sure his sperm was shot into girls's pussy. He also think the condom broke in last position because before that he didn't see anything wrong with the condom. My friend said the girl looked surprised first but then became calm very soon. She didn't blame my friend at all and even comforted him by continue saying ok. Then my friend paid her and she kept working as normal on the rest of the day.
The girl's action made my friend a little bit scary because he thinks either this girl was stupid and didn't know how to protect herself or there is something going on with this girl. He's very worried about this condom accident to make the sexual behavoir unprotected.
I don't have any clues to advise him because this is sth new to me. Any comments and good suggestions here? Should my friend be worried about any possilble disease can happend and what he should do? Thanks
My friend said he was shocked at that moment and pretty sure his sperm was shot into girls's pussy. He also think the condom broke in last position because before that he didn't see anything wrong with the condom. My friend said the girl looked surprised first but then became calm very soon. She didn't blame my friend at all and even comforted him by continue saying ok. Then my friend paid her and she kept working as normal on the rest of the day.
The girl's action made my friend a little bit scary because he thinks either this girl was stupid and didn't know how to protect herself or there is something going on with this girl. He's very worried about this condom accident to make the sexual behavoir unprotected.
I don't have any clues to advise him because this is sth new to me. Any comments and good suggestions here? Should my friend be worried about any possilble disease can happend and what he should do? Thanks
To state the obvious. Your friend should go to the doctor and test for diseases. At once, and again after X months to check for HIV. Other than that, maybe in the future stay with the missus:)
Needless to say one gets worried when the condom brokes. Especially the first time. The first time it happend to me with a hooker, I was scared shitless. Just as your "friend";) experienced, the girl didn't seem too worried, which I found strange. Well, I'm still a healthy young man, maybe a bit more cautious.
After all, the hobby we enjoy isn't entirely risk free. My philosophy has become that shit can, and does, happen. Don't roll the dice if you can't pay the price...
Vitoriabitter
11-06-06, 01:34
Basically, the girl is at more risk than the guy in that situation. Perhaps she was quite nonchalent..as its already happened and stressing about it isn't going to help...she might be on the pill etc.
For him, unless there was a skin tear for both him and her and blood transmission between both, the risk of serious infection is very low.
Having said that, other minor infections can be considered. NSU, herpes, chlymidia, thrush, molluscum, etc are more common...however, they are easilly treatable and are all quite common.
Any effects will take a couple of weeks to notice...i think the main thing is for your friend to take his mind off it...go and get a check in a few weeks...
He should stay in touch with the girl or club. I understand the clubs and workers in Germany are licensed, thus they have regular checks, they pay tax etc...so its important for them to be healthy.
FYI - anal sex is typcially the big one that has high risks associated, as typically there is allot of skin tearing etc (e.g. thats why HIV spread so rampantly through the gay community and other communities where anal or violent sex is more common, e.g. Brazil, Africa).
I was told by one of my friends who addicts to FKK about a condom accident that happened on him recently.
The FKK club he went is one of the clubs we talked about here. For privacy reason, I will not mention the name but it's a more German clients middel-sized club comparning the big international ones .
The girl he met was a Polish girl who is 20 years old. Everything went normaly at the beginning. Nod, sit down, talk and go to the room. After a BBBJ, he asked the condom and the girl gave to him but not put on by herself (normally girls are always the one who put on the condom, aren't they? a protocol?). My friend put on the condom by himself and started fucking. He said this girl's pussy was so tight that he barely can put his dick into right position and this girl didn't help him to do that (normally girls always lead guys' dick to come in their pussy, don't they? another protocol?) . However, after three positions, my friend decided to finish with classic position. My firend tried hard to cum and fucked as a hammer. He said he even felt his glans was little hurt. He ignored this and finally cumed after lasting 6 or 7 mins. Then the condom accident happened. Both the girl and himself saw the head of condom was broken when he pully his dick out of girl's pussy!
My friend said he was shock at that moment and pretty sure his sperm was shot into girls's pussy. He also think the condom broke in last position because before that he didn't see anything wrong with the condom. My friend said the girl looked surprised first but then became calm very soon. She didn't blame my friend at all and even comforted him by continue saying ok. Then my friend paid her and she kept working as normal on the rest of the day.
The girl's action made my friend a little bit scary because he thinks either this girl was stupid and didn't know how to protect herself or there is something going on with this girl. He's very worried about this condom accident to make the sexual behavoir unprotected.
I don't have any clues to advise him because this is sth new to me. Any comments and good suggestions here? Should my friend be worried about any possilble disease can happend and what he should do? Thanks
Xavier Yves
11-06-06, 19:50
Needless to say one gets worried when the condom brokes. Especially the first time. The first time it happend to me with a hooker, I was scared shitless. Just as your "friend" experienced, the girl didn't seem too worried, which I found strange. Well, I'm still a healthy young man, maybe a bit more cautious.
...
wow, it seems there are so many broken arrow missions happening with prosiitute....lol
Xavier Yves
11-07-06, 00:33
He should stay in touch with the girl or club. I understand the clubs and workers in Germany are licensed, thus they have regular checks, they pay tax etc...so its important for them to be healthy.
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As far as I know, no FKK clubs in Holland or Germany can gurantee healthy status of the working girls there. The only thing the club owner concern is that girls have to work legally with correct papers. But the girls are working totally independantly there and 60% of girls are moving from one to another club.
I think those girls will take responsiblities for themselves but no test will be oblighted by the club or government in my opinion.
I learn something new every day so maybe this is something I should find out today: am I the only one who isn't fond of BJs?
I'm not bringing this up because of fear of infection or anything else like that.
I have had several hundred of them and some of them were good and some were not so good because they were too rough. The really rough ones have left me sometimes near black and blue.
My favorite girl at Sankt Agustine-Meindorf, Vanessa, would leave me so sore down there I would have to take a day off during my trips just to recover.
I later decided BJs were not my thing and I could do without them.
I don't like having the Johnson bruised or feeling out of sorts so nowadays I ask her to do it for a minute (not longer) and if I think there is too much contact with her teeth, I ask her to stop and I focus on doing it the traditional way.
It is very rare that I find a woman who does it without any tooth contact. I have sometimes wondered if maybe a toothless older women might be the way to go, some older Oma who will give me eye contact while going down on me.
I have also have conversations with women who don't like being fingered and it has to do with fingers having sharp objects like nails attached to them and a bone going through them while dicks are soft and pliable and even conform to the natural shape of a vagina.
My thoughts on BJs are along a similar vein.
Xavier Yves
11-07-06, 23:05
I learn something new every day so maybe this is something I should find out today: am I the only one who isn't fond of BJs?
It's rather difficult to find a decent blowjob for me. My penis is very sensitive too. Little teeth contact can make me quite hurt
at Bernd's from Monica, Princess, Katja and Marcella. Apparently, the Hof girls get some great tutoring in BJ 1.01
http://www.youppie.net/forum/showthread.php?t=826
I thought this might be interesting to those of you interested in the topic of which club is the best.
I say Francophone because participants are all French speaking but not necessarily from France (this includes me).
It would figure that clubs close to the French and Belgian borders would do best though Oase does well too.
Vitoriabitter
11-09-06, 23:40
Ditto, I can only express what I know of legislation, etc.
As I understand, in australia, NL and DE, all sex workers that work in licensed premises have to be licensed and a critical factor is monthly tests. Other countries where sex work is illegal, thus there are not the controls (it was one reason the industry was decriminalised, to expel the black market elements and the increasing health/social issues that impact the broader community)
Likewise, if the girls spot a guy with STD symptoms he will be listed and a circular willl go around the clubs.
I can't say everybody follows this to the letter of the law, but I'd understand the club/brothel licenses are difficult to get, so I don't think owners want to risk losing those licenses and revenue from illegal/infected girls....
As far as I know, no FKK clubs in Holland or Germany can gurantee healthy status of the working girls there. The only thing the club owner concern is that girls have to work legally with correct papers. But the girls are working totally independantly there and 60% of girls are moving from one to another club.
I think those girls will take responsiblities for themselves but no test will be oblighted by the club or government in my opinion.
I learn something new every day so maybe this is something I should find out today: am I the only one who isn't fond of BJs?
I'm not bringing this up because of fear of infection or anything else like that.
I have had several hundred of them and some of them were good and some were not so good because they were too rough. The really rough ones have left me sometimes near black and blue.
My favorite girl at Sankt Agustine-Meindorf, Vanessa, would leave me so sore down there I would have to take a day off during my trips just to recover.
I later decided BJs were not my thing and I could do without them.
I don't like having the Johnson bruised or feeling out of sorts so nowadays I ask her to do it for a minute (not longer) and if I think there is too much contact with her teeth, I ask her to stop and I focus on doing it the traditional way.
It is very rare that I find a woman who does it without any tooth contact. I have sometimes wondered if maybe a toothless older women might be the way to go, some older Oma who will give me eye contact while going down on me.
I have also have conversations with women who don't like being fingered and it has to do with fingers having sharp objects like nails attached to them and a bone going through them while dicks are soft and pliable and even conform to the natural shape of a vagina.
My thoughts on BJs are along a similar vein.
Well, I have to admit I'm very fond of BJs, if they are good. Else = with teeth involved, then I just brake it.
So far I have got great BJs by the girls I have seen at Bernds. I have had luck as well at both Oase and Palace. However, I agree that a poor BJ could almost ruin the whole evening. It has to be stoped asap.
I remember my girlfriend between 16 and 19 years of age, she did BJs perfectly comparable with the ones I get today at Bernds. The only difference she was swallowing every time...those where the days.
For fingering, I really try to pay attention to nails and hard objects before the visit to an FKK. A nail file is a great help. Soft work with the fingers and it's ususally appreciated.
So, what was the question now again? Fond of BJs, yes I have to admit, I'm looking forward to them.
Well, I have to admit I'm very fond of BJs, if they are good. Else = with teeth involved, then I just brake it.
So far I have got great BJs by the girls I have seen at Bernds. I have had luck as well at both Oase and Palace. However, I agree that a poor BJ could almost ruin the whole evening. It has to be stoped asap.
I remember my girlfriend between 16 and 19 years of age, she did BJs perfectly comparable with the ones I get today at Bernds. The only difference she was swallowing every time...those where the days.
For fingering, I really try to pay attention to nails and hard objects before the visit to an FKK. A nail file is a great help. Soft work with the fingers and it's ususally appreciated.
So, what was the question now again? Fond of BJs, yes I have to admit, I'm looking forward to them.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who watches out for those teeth. And yes, an improperly done one can ruin a whole evening.
I've only done CIM a couple of times, believe it or not, and despite having had several hundred BJs.
There aren't many women who meet my standards for what a proper BJ should be like.. and this is despite my trying to guide them in the right direction with instructions on getting their teeth out of the way.
In Berlin I've read over the years about:
Club Bel Ami
Cafe Pssst!
Zwielicht (a swingers club - does this still exist?)
The folks who own Blue Note in Duesseldorf also manage:
Panthera in Ratingen (this is a D'dorf suburb)
Dupont in Wuppertal
Haus Lug In's Land in Siegen (this is somewhere either in southern NRW or in Rheinland Pfalz)
.. to the object of our pursuit.
http://www.the-clitoris.com/n_html/n_v_image1.htm
I had no idea there was such a thing as a classification system and a way of distinguishing clams and oysters.
Makes you want to get out there and collect as many as you can.
Happy hunting!
I got lost last month going back to my hotel From OASE (GPS was Correct but exit was shut for the night) and I was in this small town at night and I saw a Flash!
I assume that I got caught (I think 50 in a 30 zone).
I haven't received anything in the mail. My car was a rental. Do I have to worry about this next time I'm in Frankfurt?
i got lost last month going back to my hotel from oase (gps was correct but exit was shut for the night) and i was in this small town at night and i saw a flash!
i assume that i got caught (i think 50 in a 30 zone).
i haven't received anything in the mail. my car was a rental. do i have to worry about this next time i'm in frankfurt?
yes you got caught speeding by a speed camera! you don't have to worry, but you will, probably within the next few weeks, receive an invoice for some euros, which your car hire agency will charge to your credit card. there is a a well-known speed camera on the outside of ober-erlenbach (the village adjacent to burgholzhausen), which can be problematic whilst entering or exiting the settlement to/from oase.
you don't have to worry, it is a pure money transaction. it's not like there'll be storm troopers waiting for you next time you land at the airport! next time, know that you can run, but cannot hide form these things in germany...
ortos
yes you got caught speeding by a speed camera! you don't have to worry, but you will, probably within the next few weeks, receive an invoice for some euros, which your car hire agency will charge to your credit card....
when dedalus and i were driving to gt this summer from frankfurt, i got my picture taken doing about 140-150 in a 120 zone in the koln area. was driving a rental. never heard more from it and no charge on my card.
chivaz
Doctor_Skank
11-16-06, 15:44
chivaz/ortos: you may very well get a charge to your card from the rental agency, even several weeks after the fact. the rental agency will get charged by the local provincial government... this can take several weeks. after that, the rental agency will likely pass the charges on to you.
if you are lucky, the picture will be unclear or your face not clearly visible and the local guv won't be able to charge anyone... i've only gotten charged about half of the times that i have been caught speeding on "candid camera"...
chivaz/ortos: you may very well get a charge to your card from the rental agency, even several weeks after the fact. the rental agency will get charged by the local provincial government... this can take several weeks. after that, the rental agency will likely pass the charges on to you.
if you are lucky, the picture will be unclear or your face not clearly visible and the local guv won't be able to charge anyone... i've only gotten charged about half of the times that i have been caught speeding on "candid camera"...
.. in germany before. last time was in aachen in a rental car.
i didn't say anything to the rental company and i never was billed for it.
don't know if the procedure is different for speeding tickets.
.. in germany before. last time was in aachen in a rental car.
i didn't say anything to the rental company and i never was billed for it.
don't know if the procedure is different for speeding tickets.
...that i have been billed by my rental car company for speeding tickets from speed cameras in small towns and on autobahns...
typically, the bills for these fines arrived a month or so after the fact...
ortos
...that i have been billed by my rental car company for speeding tickets from speed cameras in small towns and on autobahns...
typically, the bills for these fines arrived a month or so after the fact...
ortos
...by my rental car company and the bill can come even a couple of months later.
you can try to challenge the ticket by writing to the rental company and showing proof that you were not in the area on the day of the ticket. you can also instruct your credit card company not to pay the fee to the rental car company and claim that it's an unauthorized charge. of course the rental car company could blacklist you...
btw - it makes no difference if the picture clearly shows your face. the rental agreement clearly places the responsibility for any tickets received during the rental period on the leasee. it makes no difference who was actually driving.
well, i'll gladly pay the fine as i was speeding.
i was just concerned if it would be a problem to drive in germany again.
in the u.s. my friend (a canadian) ignored paying his speeding ticket and was caught speeding again in the same state 3 years later and they threw him in jail for a couple if days! lol.
in the u.s. my friend (a canadian) ignored paying his speeding ticket and was caught speeding again in the same state 3 years later and they threw him in jail for a couple if days! lol.
must have been in texas.
cheers,
dedalus
i've gotten several tickets over the years, maybe half a dozen. one night i was furious. i got lost and got caught by the same speed camera twice in less than 1/2 hour. i've heard that the fines you pay to the rental agency are not the speeding ticket fines. they are just an administrative fee and you are still responsible for the fines. i've wondered if some day i'm going to get stopped by a real life policeman and he's going to tell me i owe thousands of euros in fines, late fees, and interest.
Dedalus:
No, south Carolina, worse than Texas!
i've gotten several tickets over the years, maybe half a dozen. one night i was furious. i got lost and got caught by the same speed camera twice in less than 1/2 hour. i've heard that the fines you pay to the rental agency are not the speeding ticket fines. they are just an administrative fee and you are still responsible for the fines. i've wondered if some day i'm going to get stopped by a real life policeman and he's going to tell me i owe thousands of euros in fines, late fees, and interest.
.
..that i've received are the actual fines with a "handling" fee tacked on by the rental agency. in general the agency isn't supposed to pass on your information to the police unless you contest the ticket or refuse to pay, in which case you get to deal directly with the authorities.
Dedalus:
No, south Carolina, worse than Texas!
Boy, your not kidding there. Two words:
Strom Thurmond.
Cheers,
Dedalus, who is not expecting a branch of FKK World to open near Spartanburg anytime some.
Saw the latest James Bond movie last Friday.
Something fell into place while simultaneously thinking about how Marlow's attraction to Russian women probably stems from watching too many James Bond films: All of this running around to get to Deutschland to indulge in the hobby is feeding my need to play a James Bond type role too.
True, the only cloak and dagger stuff I do when I am there is not being particularly truthful to hotel people about the reason for my visits when asked why I am visiting their hotel for the nth time.
The State Department and the rest of the US Government is never informed of my trips (there is no reason to belive they would care).
The only gadgets I carry with me are my Swatch and my travel alarm clock.
I am flying economy and when possible using frequent flier miles.
The fanciest rental car I've been given is a four door Mercedes C Class (not quite the same thing as an Aston Martin) and the smallest car I've ever had to drive is a small Fiat I once took from Stuttgart to Atlantis.
James always has no problems with female companionship and I don't either... so long as I'm not visiting PHG.
Oh and yes, I am not licensed to kill though I have been known to swat flies every now and then.
The latest Bond babe, by the way, is a dark haired British woman by the name of Vesper Lynd, played by Eva Green who is not British but French and Swedish (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1200692/bio). Not as exotic as the Russian blondes you hope to run into at the FKK clubs but quite pleasing to the eyes.
Xavier Yves
11-20-06, 20:46
The latest Bond babe, by the way, is a dark haired British woman by the name of Vesper Lynd, played by Eva Green who is not British but French and Swedish (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1200692/bio). Not as exotic as the Russian blondes you hope to run into at the FKK clubs but quite pleasing to the eyes..
totally agree.
Eva Green is not pretty in my opinion but has uite attractive eyes.
CBGBConnisur
11-23-06, 22:26
The new 007 Sucks, Sean Connery was and is James Bond. Craig is short, acts tough but isn't(I actually met him a few years back and he is SHORT, I am 6-2 and I had a good 6 inches on him, he looked like a little boy next to Eric Bana in Munich). Hugh Jackman would have been a stellar Bond especially since he is 6'3" and built like an Australian footy star. Craig is shorter than Gwenyth Paltrow, and he is not believable as this new "tough guy" Bond. Its hilarious to see this new guy play Bond, too short. Russell Crowe would have been good as 007, but he just doesn't make those kinds of movies.
Sean Connery played a Russian several times, even though he made a name for himself dispatching them as 007.
.. that I've just exceeded the 400 report mark.
I've only been posting since the beginning of the year.
.. that I've just exceeded the 400 report mark.
I've only been posting since the beginning of the year.
True. I don't understand how you have had any time left for sex:)
Xavier Yves
11-26-06, 22:50
Will stay in ULM area for a couple of days. Are there any good places to go near around? I've known some Fkks near Stuggart. Would appreicate some suggestions!
I will be in Dresden for few days and wanted to know if there are any clubs near by. Thank you
I will be in Dresden for few days and wanted to know if there are any clubs near by. Thank you
This is new unexplored territory and you would be doing us all a favor to visit and write about what you find.
According to a search on the RF, there are two clubs in Leipzig: Goldstar and FKK Europa and directly in Dresden there is Maxim which just opened last Winter.
I wemt to FKK Europa about 2 years ago. It was clean and the people running it were nice. At the time there were about 4 girls there and they told me that was pretty average.
There are hot chicks in that part of Germany, but not sure on the financial ability of the men in the area to finance the hobby.
I know at world COB (cum on body) is 50 Euros at World but is it included at OASE?
Also for CIM is it 50 Euros for every shot or inclusive for MSOG when you have multiple sessions?
I have recieved different reposnses from different girls at OASE. Some girls say the COB is no charge and some charge.
I suppose I'm a semi-veteran of the big 3 FKK but I feel funny asking the lady at the front about this kind of issue.
Thanks all
The RF has a thread labeled "Verbesserungsvorschlaege" for suggestions for improvement guys would want to get across to club managements.
One of the first lists reads like a laundry list of things each club could do better to improve its offerings, both physical plant and service-wise.
I think we should do the same here as hopefully someone out there from the club management world is reading these posts and will act on them.
Here are the first things that come to mind:
Babylon - Showers upstairs are dated and need new fixtures. Same goes for Wiago showers. The bathroom fixtures receive the most wear and tear and are the first things to go.
PT Wagenfeld - Showers near the pool don't work properly. Also, their "one towel per visitor" policy is kind of a drag. Its the only towel you get so if you ever take a shower and dry yourself, you will be carrying a wet towel with you all day. Food needs serious improvement. And: bring a flashlight with you. Their Umkleide is in the basement and its very, very dark down there. You could forget something in your locker very easily because you didn't see it.
Samya - Table in the middle with the chairs should be taken out as it doesn't facilitate contact with women sitting at it. Couch situation needs improvement. There aren't, for one, enough places for everyone. I prefer the couch set up at Babylon, for one thing with couches along all of the walls of the Kontaktzimmer. No space is wasted.
Bernds - True, the decor hasn't been changed since the 1970s (and that is part of its charm) but at some point in time it should be updated to at least bring it into the 1980s. Food was very good at one time but has somehow declined in quality.
PT Dorsten - The women need to smile more.
Heavensgate - Would someone provide a clue as to when the women go all nude and when they wear bikinis? Not figured their schedule for this out yet. Their website is no help at all.
Wildenrath - When will their pricing Politik be sorted out?
PT Mettmann - Needs another toilet.
I can't think of any for Cocoon. Maybe it is just about perfect in every respect.
I'll stop here.
I was thinking of doing a quick summary of the postings so far under the RF thread. Some of them really hit the nail on the head.
I'll get to it when I have time.
I cannot find Maxim in forums or in Google. Can someone help me with the address, prices, and maybe a website?
Thank you
Dick Rambone
11-30-06, 01:37
The two clubs I would return would be Cocoon and Sauna BlueNote. The only problem with BlueNote is the smoke, but the atmosphere is very friendly of a small club.
The two clubs I would return would be Cocoon and Sauna BlueNote. The only problem with BlueNote is the smoke, but the atmosphere is very friendly of a small club.
Dick,
I am curious, what is it about Cocoon that you liked? I have not yet been there but have been to its sister club, Heavens Gate. What is the place like? What about the service levels?
Thanks for your comments.
Bob
Dick,
I am curious, what is it about Cocoon that you liked? I have not yet been there but have been to its sister club, Heavens Gate. What is the place like? What about the service levels?
Thanks for your comments.
Bob
Everyone says Heavensgate is a sister club but I rather doubt it as their websites don't exchange links.
The two clubs I would return would be Cocoon and Sauna BlueNote. The only problem with BlueNote is the smoke, but the atmosphere is very friendly of a small club.
... as it has a Familienbetrieb athmosphere. Klein aber fein as the Germans say.
Cocoon is the club to go to meet the girl next door.
As I discuss somewhere here, my tastes run more towards the "talented amateur" and not to the obvious hardened professional.
When all else fails a "professional with strong amateur tendencies" will do too.
I know at world COB (cum on body) is 50 Euros at World but is it included at OASE?
Depends on the girl. Many of the girls won't charge extra for COB, only COF or CIM. See below...
Also for CIM is it 50 Euros for every shot or inclusive for MSOG when you have multiple sessions?
Who knows? Hmm, where are the constitutional experts when you need them? I suggest that you run a test case and let us know. I would assume per shot.
I suppose I'm a semi-veteran of the big 3 FKK but I feel funny asking the lady at the front about this kind of issue.
Why? You can be sure that she's been asked much raunchier questions and seen it all. But in any case as always, if you want to be sure ask the girl, though you may be opening up a can of worms and giving her an excuse to charge for a service that she normally wouldn't have because she knows that it's important enough for you that you asked. If you look normal, clean, have a good rapport, and she senses the opportunity for multiple sesions and return business, she won't charge for it.
Everyone says Heavensgate is a sister club but I rather doubt it as their websites don't exchange links.
Jackyo,
You have an excellent point here. I read somewhere that they were sister clubs owned by the same group. I did not verify that so should have been more careful in making a statement. Thanks for pointing out this assumption that may not be correct. Their web pages are also very different.
Like you, I prefer the talented amateur over a hardened professional. I like when time is less important and she might just enjoy it a little.
Again, thanks for keeping things accurate.
Bob
Jackyo,
Like you, I prefer the talented amateur over a hardened professional. I like when time is less important and she might just enjoy it a little.
Bob
.. I've had fun with professionals too.
I have met several types of women at these clubs in my short career:
The best are "talented amateurs" who are in it temporarily to meet some financial need and then they quit. There is no scripting. When they enjoy it, they really enjoy it and it shows. Basically the girl next door who is open minded enough to have some fun while she makes some money.
There are "professionals with amateur tendencies". They may be pros but you would never know. Some put on an act, others are more genuine about it and really enjoy their work. They differ from amateurs in that they do this for a living. They don't have any other professions.
There are also "hardened professionals." This is money grubbing variety who is there because they have to be there. An FKK club is one step above a Laufhaus but they would just as well fit into a Laufhaus environment.
The last category consists of "untalented amateurs and untalented professionals". Some women just shouldn't be doing this for a living. She is in an unhappy situation but she has no other choice - and it shows in her services.
Given a choice, the "talented amateur" is what I look for. Next is the "pro with amateur tendencies".
Finding a "talented amateur" is like sighting the Loch Ness monster, Big Foot.. or the proverbial "hooker with a heart of gold".
I've met women who are just sweethearts. Makes you want to ask that ultimate pick up question: "Whats a nice girl like you doing in a place like this?"
This dawned on me: from my experience "talented amateurs" are more likely to be German, less likely to be foreign hence my tendency to avoid the clubs where there are no German women.
I cannot find Maxim in forums or in Google. Can someone help me with the address, prices, and maybe a website?
Thank you
.. is, unfortunately, under construction.
http://www.maxim-dresden.de/
Can you read German? There are reports out there on the RF about this club, particularly a long one written by Lionel.
If I have time (don't know when) I wil do a cut and paste and a translation or quick summary.
Dick Rambone
12-02-06, 16:39
Dick,
I am curious, what is it about Cocoon that you liked? I have not yet been there but have been to its sister club, Heavens Gate. What is the place like? What about the service levels?
Thanks for your comments.
Bob
Bob,
What I like about Cocoon is that the girls are friendly exept for the ones that do not speak english or don't want to. The mayority are very friendly and give great service. The only place where I can say I got better service but not by much is BlueNote. The food in those two places suck but there are good restaurants nearby. One thing I really like about BlueNote is that you pay when you leave, no need to go back to the locker and look for cash.
Dick
Bob,
What I like about Cocoon is that the girls are friendly exept for the ones that do not speak english or don't want to. The mayority are very friendly and give great service. The only place where I can say I got better service but not by much is BlueNote. The food in those two places suck but there are good restaurants nearby. One thing I really like about BlueNote is that you pay when you leave, no need to go back to the locker and look for cash.
Dick
If you speak fluent German or Polish, you will get along very well at this club. The women mostly divide into these two groups here.
There are a number of Polish women here though who have lived in Germany a while and who are bilingual Polish and German.
I've never had a problem with friendliness.
No wait. Correction: I have one really, really bad experience here (last May, very tall stately looking German blonde who delivered a Laufhaus performance once in the room) but putting that aside, my experiences have ranged from positive to excellent.
No wait again. This was the very worst experience of my FKK career to-date.
Discounting this, I have consistently found here the "talented amateur" experience I look for: basically the girl next door who just so happens to have a financial need but wants to have fun while working for her money.
I've had fun with pros but I am tired of the fake moaning, the "why don't you just get off so we can get this done" attitude and the efficient "let's make this bed quickly so I can get out on the floor again".
One word of caution: the Abrechnung happens at the end of your stay. If you want to avoid an Ueberraschung, you can check your account as the day goes by by going downstairs and asking the Thekenfrau what your running balance is. Things would be a lot clearer if you paid for each session at the end of each one but such is their payment system.
I've had surprises here. They've not been large surprises and I've not quibbled but they have been unexpected.
(This is, by the way, one more indication, at least to me, that this club and Heavensgate are not run by the same people. At Heavensgate you pay the girls directly after each session.)
I cannot find Maxim in forums or in Google. Can someone help me with the address, prices, and maybe a website?
Thank you
Dude,
Here is the summary section of a long report done by TomiSF on the RF in April, not long after they had opened.
He left this place "ungepoppt" as he put it, in other words, he did not have a session.
Fazit:
Der Laden hat Potential. Die Räumlichkeiten und das Ambiente sind top. Ein Kino könnte nicht schaden.
Es gibt eben noch gewisse Anlaufschwierigkeiten. Es fehlen die Damen. In nächster Zeit sollen es mehr werden.
Am Preisgefüge sollte man meiner Meinung nach nocht etwas drehen.
Bleibt es so, ist diese Location für 30 EUR ein Club, um dort gepflegt zu saunieren, sich im Whirlpool wohl fühlen und das bei gutem Essen und Trinken. Nicht mehr aber auch nicht weniger.
Schauen wir mal, wie sich der Club in Dresden weiterentwickelt. Es wurde viel investiert, nun muss es noch ordentlich vermarktet werden, dass es auch angenommen wird.
Viele Grüße von Tomi, der trotzdem nicht unzufrieden war
Fazit: The place has potential. The facilities and ambiance are first class. They could use a cinema. There were a few startup difficulties, specifically a lack of women. He mentions the entry charge of 30 Euros and the Ausstattung (Sauna, Whirlpool, Food and Drink) concludes that we need to see how it develops further. A lot was invested in it and we must now just see how it is marketed and accepted.
Though he left "ungepoppt", he was nonethless contented with it.
Again, this was in April so if you could check it out and do an update, that would be cool!
Are there any Fkk clubs that offer discounts when you have 3 or more guys in a group? Say two pay and one gets in free?
Are there any Fkk clubs that offer discounts when you have 3 or more guys in a group? Say two pay and one gets in free?
World has "two for three" on Mondays to Wednesdays.
Chivaz
I attended the monthly Gangbang in Club Tabulos (report http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=537975&postcount=1258) last Wednesday 29th Nov, and between sessions I got talking to a very interesting old character. He asked me not to reveal his name but said he didn’t mind having his memoirs put on the net. I was standing in the gangbang room, watching the action just after one of my own sessions and he came over and asked where I was from in his excellent English. I told him and then he asked was I new to visiting prostitutes, and seemed surprised when I told him that I was nearly 20 years in the hobby. What then took place was a very interesting conversation between sessions over the next few hours, where we shared details of our respective sex lives. Although the conversation wasn’t really in interview style, I am going to recreate it that way here. He was really forthcoming and delighted to tell his story. My questions didn’t necessarily come in the following order either, and obviously it’s not word for word, but its how I remember it.
ME: so what are your sexual statistics?
HIM: Well I’m nearly 58, and I had my first sex when I was 15 years old. In 42 odd years I have had sex with around 2500 women I think. That breaks down to 2 ex wives, 100 girlfriends, and one-night stands. Maybe 4 or 500 swinging women, and around 2000 prostitutes, but that really could be more; it is certainly not less than that. Both my wives left me because of my being unfaithful.
ME: Do you remember your first sexual experience? (He really went into detail here)
HIM: Yes, it was with a prostitute when I was 15. I had a girlfriend, who was 2 years younger than me, and all she would do was kiss her a little, but I was desperate to do “it”. I lived in a small town not so far from Dusseldorf, and there were several prostitutes in the area. Most were women whose husbands had left them, and this was their way to support their families. The majority of these women worked alone and from their homes. I was always attracted to older women, even from a young age, and there was one particular woman who I decided would be my first. She was about 35, tall with long black hair and brown eyes, very French looking I thought at the time. It was all very relaxed with these women, men would call to their houses at all hours of the day or night, and as long as they didn’t have another client, they drop whatever else they were doing and do the business. This woman had about 5 kids, and she used to get the older kids to mind the younger ones. The room she used wasn’t her real bedroom, but a special room for the sex that she always kept locked so the kids wouldn’t go in there.
I had a friend who wanted to fuck her too, so we decided to go one Saturday. We flipped a coin over who would go in first, and I won. We were so nervous, and it took me around on hour to get the courage to ring her bell. She answered the door, and laughed when she saw me. She asked how old I was, and I told her I was 18. She laughed again and told me I was a liar, but let me in anyway. Straight into her sex room, and she took the money off me. She told me to undress and lie on the bed, and she went away for a few minutes. She came back and undressed, and I can still see her standing beside the bed naked. She had big sagging breasts with stretch marks, and a really big loose belly. But what I really focused on was her pubic hair; it was the biggest bush I had ever seen, almost to her navel. She sat on the side of the bed and started sucking my cock. I was shaking with nerves but really enjoying it. After a few minutes she lay beside me, and I went to kiss her, and I remember only then noticing her really bad teeth, and her foul breath. I French kissed her anyway, and then down to her tits, and then I moved my face to her pussy but it was really too hairy and smelly to lick. I fucked her then and came after about 3 thrusts. She then gave me a cigarette, and I fucked her twice more. It felt great putting my cream inside her and then I was hooked for life.
ME: I have seen you performing bareback during all your sessions today; don’t you worry AIDS and STDS?
HIM: I have always performed bareback, and I hate condoms. I find they ruin the erotic moment for me. For me the thrill is coming in the woman’s pussy, and watching cock going in and out of her pussy. When I started having sex, bareback was normal, except maybe with prostitutes in Red light districts like in Amsterdam. Ok here is my opinion on AIDS: When AIDS arrived on the scene on the early 1980’s, there was huge confusion and we all thought you could get it from cutlery and from beer glasses in bars etc! (He gave a big laugh) I remember thinking that I might get AIDS from a beer bottle, and I was still having regular bareback with different workingwomen – it was crazy! Then when the confusion was straightened out, many people did change their sexual habits, or at least for a while. Certain prostitutes did change over to using condoms, and many swinging people also started using them, and also got fussier about who they fucked. But many women didn’t change and just continued with the old ways.
I think this club is a very safe place to have bareback, because I know that the girls are tested every month here, and if there is a problem they must leave.
The only place I am really concerned about AIDS/HIV is in Thailand. I go there every summer for a month, and have been doing so since my second wife left me over 10 years ago. Over there I have a dear friend who lives in Pattaya, and he sorts out women for me. He gets them checked with a very reputable Doctor, and those are the only women I go with when I am there.
I have had some minor infections over the years, and I guess I have been lucky never to catch hepatitis or anything too serious. I have hep shots of course these days, and I got for a full scan every year. At least crabs hardly exists anymore, cos most women are shaved now.
ME: Do you prefer shaved or hairy pussies?
HIM: Shaved for sure. So much cleaner and better to lick. Some women were doing it years ago, but it really only caught with the majority in the last few years. I even started shaving myself in the last few years.
ME: You mentioned that you have had sex with many swinging women, can you tell me more about that?
HIM: I have been swinging for a really long time now, also with many of the same women since the 70s. Problem is that they are getting too old now, and I have lost interest in having sex with most of them. At least them getting pregnant are not a problem anymore. (He gives a big laugh) Most of the swinging I do these days is in private parties in people’s homes. I also take a lady with me, who is the widow of a friend of mine who committed suicide some years ago. I don’t fuck her these days but its nice to go to a party with a lady rather than alone. Although I must admit that my swinging days are really coming to an end, because I am gone too old to entice younger swinging women, and as I said I am quickly losing interest in the older girls as many are in their 60’s now. I prefer women in the 30 – 45 age group. I don’t like them too young or too old. To me women under 25 are just kiddies, the same as my two daughters. I not interested in kiddies.
ME: It is rumoured on the ISG forum that bareback sex is offered in Bernd’s FKK club?
HIM: Ha ha, Well you get on that forum when u go home and tell all those guys that they can get a bare fuck in Bernd’s if they want, its certainly no secret around here.
I go to this club about 6 or 8 times per year, and it is probably the best of the more modern FKK type clubs. About ½ the women there do bareback, but these days they charge more for it. 50 euro extra I think. Also I think the club is only good value if you are staying in the area, and not driving so you can take advantage of the alcohol. If you drive there, then the 70-euro entry seems like a waste. I some times go with a pal and if he drives then I drink, and then it is worth it. There are some really good girls there though.
ME: What do you think of the “more modern FKK clubs” as you called them?
HIM: Well I call them “Kiddie clubs”, cos most of the girls are kiddies, and many of the clients are kiddies. People under 30 years are all really just kiddies in my view. I don’t really like these big clubs that are like loud discotechs, complete with their loud music and flashing lights. Also its hard to get bareback sex in many of the modern clubs, but it does take place in most of them. But you must be a regular in these clubs, and get to know the girl a few times before she will drop the condoms.
ME: If you find yourself in a position where you can’t get bareback off a girl, what do you do?
HIM: I just get blowjob, and do 69 and things. Then I come in her mouth. If she wont let me cum in her mouth, well I wont be seeing her again.
ME: Have you been to the big Frankfurt clubs?
HIM: Well I have a friend who likes to visit all the new clubs when they open, and so I sometimes go with him if I have nothing better to do, like on a Sunday sometimes. I have been to all those big clubs down there I think. Again I think do them as “kiddie clubs”. I think Atlantis is closed now isn’t it?? Tax problems or something. I have been in Oase more than the other ones.
ME: A place I have been recently, and I really liked is Partytreff Dorsten. Have u been?
HIM: Yes, I was there with my friend on a Sunday about a year ago, and I wasnt really comfortable. Most of the girls were real kiddies, even younger than my daughters. I really only went cos I had nothing else to do that Sunday, and I hate sitting around my house alone, especially on a Sunday. It’s a very lonely day for me.
I can see how a young man like you would like that club. It’s a nice relaxing sort of place I suppose.
ME: So where do u go to visit prostitutes these days?
HIM: 80% of the women I go to see are working from their own homes. I keep an excel spreadsheet on my computer at home, with names, addresses, numbers, comments etc. There are hundreds of entries, and some of these women I have seen for years now. I usually prefer about 2 hours with a woman, and have sex twice in that time. I can usually get this service for 100 –150 with these private women. I visit a working woman at least once a week. I have never gone for more than 2 or 3 weeks without sex in the last 42 years.
ME: Do you like licking a woman’s pussy?
HIM: Yes I love it, and like I saw you do earlier a lot, I also like to lick the asshole.
ME: Not that many men are into licking the female anus, you, me, a cousin of mine, Rocco Siffredi??
HIM: Ha ha, is that Rocco the Buttman guy?? Well I have seen many men do it over the years. I think there are more men that like it, aside from you, your cousin, Rocco, and me. Ha ha. (Gives a big laugh)
And that was about all he had to say.
World has "two for three" on Mondays to Wednesdays.
Chivaz
Thanks for the info Chivas, any other clubs out there that do the same?
Thanks for the info Chivas, any other clubs out there that do the same?
Finca Erotica has the same thing going on Sundays and Mondays before 20:00
Some clubs have happy hours like:
FKK-Malibu: 35 euros between 12:00 and 13:00 and also between 20:00 and 21:00. Also 35 euros on Sundays.
Finca Erotica: 30 euros between 11:00 and 14:00 and also between 22:00 and 23:00. You can not get both the happy hour and 3 for 2 at Finca.
Atlantik: 35 euros between 11:00 and 14:00 and also between 20:00 and 21:00. Sundays are 35 euros as well regardless of time.
There are others as well. Cocoon has happy hour, Yin Yang had a happy hour promotion in November etc. They usually have this info on their webpages. You can also see some info on it in the FAQ on Roemerforum.
Chivaz
Excellent report. Must have been an interesting fellow.
Latin Crusher
12-04-06, 03:52
First all, good day to all the gentleman of this forum, young and veteran. I'm Carlos, from NJ. I was stationed in the army for 8 years in Germany. I been out of the FKK scene since march 17 2005.
So my question to all you wise gentlemen is which is right now the best FKK club? Currently I'm serving my country overseas fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan, well please someone help me out. I should be touching German soil in January, whatever info I get I will post and share the experience with you if possible. I will try to get pics.
Well thank you and I will be waiting for responses.
Wan King,
Before I focused only on the girls when in Clubs. But I learned to socialize with the customers and indeed, it makes you meet sometimes the most interesting characters.
Routard
... and maybe I've got too much time on my hands which is why I've been doing all of this thinking: Particularly under the "Other FKK clubs" and the "Partytreff" threads is a world of club information which is difficult to get to because its not indexed.
If there were a thread somewhere (and I'm thinking it might be the "Clubs which deserve their own threads" thread) which listed which posts were pertinent to which clubs, the information would be easier to get to and we wouldn't have to keep repeating information which has already been posted when the same questions come up.
This index would, in effect, be a substitute but not a replacement for an FAQ.
Z. B.: the post would read:
If you want information on Cocoon, the following posts are relevant (and I am making these numbers up):
Under General Information:
#736, #892, etc..
Under Other FKK Clubs:
#873, #938, etc...
Some questions being asked come up over and over again: "Which bus do you take to get to Cocoon? What is the name of the bus stop?".. and the answers to these questions are there but just all over the place.
There have been some really oustanding reports (the ones written by Toscana, Wan King, Routard and Euro100 come to mind) which could then be indexed and found more easily. Some of these are great club specific FAQs which are buried under piles of less important material.
The Reports of Distinction thread deals primarily with well written reports and not so much questions on the nuts and bolts of club visits which come up often.
Jackyo and all,
Can someone help me find address of Maxim and ideally a phone number? I don't read german, so other boards are not much help, and google does not want to find it either.
Thank you
Xavier Yves
12-04-06, 21:24
the current AIDS test technique can only find out if you have disease or not min 6 weeks ago. It means if you're affected and test within 6 weeks after your unsafe sex, you cann't find it out. So who know the girls got affected in 6 weeks or not.....
This was posted a long time ago and is very helpful in finding what is available. This is not a complete listing but goes a long ways to helping find what is available.
Enjoy this great resource. Thanks to Roemer Forum.
Bob
Okay. Third installment starting again on January first, 2006. I might just stop here.
Or I might go backwards and index 2005 reports for the PT, Other FKK and General Information threads. It might be the thing to do over the holidays – I find that it calms the nerves.
To get the whole picture of what is going on in the scene one needs to read the German and French forums too. There is lots of interesting content out there most of which never makes it into English.
In indexing this thread I ignored discussions on pimps, STDs, the World Cup and forced sex. As with my previous indexing, I ignored questions and focused on posts with content.
Required reading for newbies is Routard’s FKK FAQ: #1576 (it consists of a couple of links). Its about as comprehensive as can be. Also Cordelia’s comments on how guest should act in a club: #1492.
These posts also deal with general topics such as how to exchange money, car rental tips, leaving bags behind at the Frankfurt Hbf, and, particularly of importance to newbies: the officially approved ISG policy on tipping.
Certain posts also deal with the perennial question asked by newbies: which clubs do I go to?
The answer to this question is easy: visit the Hessen 3, repeat as necessary…This is the beaten path and a lot of newbies are content with the beaten path (no point in trying to convince them otherwise..)
Alles klar?
Clubueberblick 1329
Kaleus List 1234, 1236
Lists 1287, 1386, 1668, 1669, 1670
Clubs in Koeln 1302, 1303, 1304, 1305, 1306, 1307
Samya. Koeln 1307
Artemis, Berlin 1235, 1331, 1332
Sleeping in a car 1364, 1365, 1366, 1370, 1371, 1396, 1400, 1404
Club suggestions and overall reviews 1239, 1259, 1266, 1377, 1416, 1419, 1510, 1522, 1542, 1644, 1676, 1682, 1720, 1746, 1747, 1779, 1810, 1813
Credit cards 1246, 1247
FKK Clubs vs. Spanien 1254, 1256, 1257
Oase 1260, 1261, 1362
Hessen Hotels 1454, 1456
Sex in Kinos 1281
Bernds, Hennef-Lichtenberg 1482, 1717
Polyglot guide 1334, 1343
Optimal time of day to visit 1372, 1373, 1374, 1375, 1401
NRW defined 1271, 1272, 1273, 1274
Amsterdam 1276, 1277, 1279
ColA, Augsburg 1284, 1330
Atlantik, Hanau 1291
Eros, Frankfurt 1362
Palace, Frankfurt am Main (nicht an der Oder) 1261, 1260, 1362, 1376
World 1262
Southern Germany (d.h. Baden-Wuerttemberg and Bayern) 1288, 1751, 1753, 1754, 1755
Villa, Hannover 1326
Berlin Versus NRW 1752
FKK Point, Bruchsal 1376
Hessen 3 Versus Bernds 1716
GPS Coordinates 1382, 1457, 1458, 1459, 1460, 1461, 1462, 1464, 1706
Kaiserslautern 1605
Berlin 1607, 1610, 1611
Exchanging Money 1387, 1388, 1390, 1392, 1394, 1395
Discrimination 1397
Ibis Hotels 1399, 1406
Parkschloss Dali 1408, 1410, 1440, 1441
Parksauna, Wildenrath 1408, 1410
Heavensgate, Dorsten 1410, 1592, 1595, 1596
Cocoon Versus Palace 1432
Cocoon, Wuppertal 1433, 1818, 1819
Salon Mira 1442, 1443
Car rental 1413, 1415
Consigne de bagages 1504, 1505, 1506
Clubs in NRW 1461, 1570, 1573
Tipping 1466, 1470, 1471, 1472, 1475, 1476, 1477, 1478, 1480
Razzia 1463, 1467, 1468, 1469, 1489
Babylon, Elsdorf 1482
Wiago, Leverkusen 1482
Maastricht, clubs nearby 1486
Clubs in Sachsen: Maxim, Europa 1805, 1806, 1817, 1820
Deals on Entry Fee Pricing 1822, 1825
A Guide to Proper Guest Behavior 1492, 1531
FKK FAQ 1576
Entering and Leaving 1767
Montreal 1519
Hessen reviews 1666
Smoking 1533, 1534, 1535, 1537, 1538, 1555
First P4P Experiences 1546, 1549, 1550, 1551
Harem, Bad Lippspringe 1554
FKK Duesseldorf, former Dolce Vita 1768
Fucking Modes 1614, 1619, 1620, 1621, 1636, 1640, 1642
Saunaaufgusszeremonie 1625
Signs which indicate you have an FKK club obsession 1626
Travel planning 1645, 1653
Goldentime, Brueggen 1769 (includes train directions)
Hotels 1559, 1560
Asians 1563
PT Dorsten 1592
Mini reviews 1686, 1694
Hi,
By coincident I ran into a German porn movie the other day apparently shot in a FKK location. Only being to a few of them I'm not sure of this fact, but it very much looked like a typical surrounding. Then down to my question; One of the blonde girls had distinct marks like a piercing above right eye and a large tattoo (more elsewhere as well) covering all the right hand side of her right (quite small) tit. Anyone that recognise this and knowing where she may be working?
To tell the truth I didn't like this guy's attitude at all. Revealing that he sees private women in their homes and gets sex for two hours for 100-150 euros and he expects to come in their mouths.....well, so the cheeky bugger gets away with it. I find it arrogant of him to boast like this. The normal rate is 150 an hour without any additional frills like cim, anal etc etc, everything else is extra. No wonder he doesn't like FKK clubs, because there he would have to pay what's expected and what I think the women have a right to be paid. Fifty for half an hour ain't that much.
He also has a very German attitude to sex. The bane of the sex industry are German men wanting it for practically nothing and without a condom. I do know of a 'housewife' who does it without a condom for 100 an hour. I think she is wrong and stupid. As for the men you might say who can blame them, but these same guys then go to other women with a more sensible price attitude and try to bargain the price down saying they can get it elsewhere cheaper. Such is the market in Germany with more pay sex than you could poke in a lifetime that the girls feel the competition instensely. Unlike the UK or USA where such bargain hunters are basically told to stuff it up their own a§§§es.
I'll be flying into Frankfurt in mid-March and plan on renting a car to visit several FKKs in the NRW area. I would welcome recommendations for economical car rental agencies from fellow mongers who have been there and done that.
Cheers,
WW
I would welcome recommendations for economical car rental agencies from fellow mongers who have been there and done that.
Cheers,
WW
Unfortunately I haven't any personal reference, but I remember having seen a lot of nice experience with http://www.e-sixt.de/ to be quite a bargain. Looks uite cheap to me, and even if it's probably possible to get it even cheaper this seems almost as good as the regular business providers (with e-booking, fairly new cars etc.).
I'll be flying into Frankfurt in mid-March and plan on renting a car to visit several FKKs in the NRW area. I would welcome recommendations for economical car rental agencies from fellow mongers who have been there and done that.
Cheers,
WW
Sixt runs an online rental agency at www.Sixti.de. For 5 Euro/day you can get a SMART car, which is fine if you're only going to use it to get to the FRA area clubs. For 29 Euro, you can get a normal compact car. Like all rental car agencies, they make their money on the extras.
The major hassle with this deal is that their counter is in terminal 2 while most flights arrive and leave from terminal 1. The minor hassle is that the whole car is a billboard, so everyone who sees you driving it, knows that you're a cheap bastard.
I've used it on occasion for quick entry and exit to Oase- with gas and insurance, the total comes to less than 30 Euro. Once there were 3 similar cars in the Oase parking lot, so other mongers must have the same cheap bastard mentality.
Njoy
Hessen Bub
12-17-06, 09:39
The minor hassle is that the whole car is a billboard, so everyone who sees you driving it, knows that you're a cheap bastard.
Who cares? You're not taking the car with you into the club, so the girls do not know about it. And I've seen some cheap bastards with big expensive cars as well ...
Hessen Bub
Hi Iseeu,
I rent that 5 euro car all the time and never have a problem with any of the girls treating me like a cheap bastard.
The minor hassle is that the whole car is a billboard, so everyone who sees you driving it, knows that you're a cheap bastard.
So, what's your point???? Are you now the Commander in Chief of the Hookers Union of the World. You must be American because prices in the U.S.A are so screwed up. Americans pay ridiculous prices for very lame service. It's a well know fact that wherever American men go to hobby in large numbers the ladies get lazy and prices trend higher. This is what happens when people think with their pricks instead of thinking with the main HEAD. I prefer to see ladies who give me the best bang for the buck.
To tell the truth I didn't like this guy's attitude at all. Revealing that he sees private women in their homes and gets sex for two hours for 100-150 euros and he expects to come in their mouths.....well, so the cheeky bugger gets away with it. I find it arrogant of him to boast like this. The normal rate is 150 an hour without any additional frills like cim, anal etc etc, everything else is extra. No wonder he doesn't like FKK clubs, because there he would have to pay what's expected and what I think the women have a right to be paid. Fifty for half an hour ain't that much.
He also has a very German attitude to sex. The bane of the sex industry are German men wanting it for practically nothing and without a condom. I do know of a 'housewife' who does it without a condom for 100 an hour. I think she is wrong and stupid. As for the men you might say who can blame them, but these same guys then go to other women with a more sensible price attitude and try to bargain the price down saying they can get it elsewhere cheaper. Such is the market in Germany with more pay sex than you could poke in a lifetime that the girls feel the competition instensely. Unlike the UK or USA where such bargain hunters are basically told to stuff it up their own a§§§es.
I am making several points. Naturally we all want the best fuck for the buck. But you can't pay the price of a Mini and expect to get a Rolls Royce. As this is a business let's treat it with proper business decency and not try to (excuse the pun) screw the tart for every penny. This monger who is in his fifties offers his women fifty euros an hour. That price will normally get you a bleached blonde in a tawdry wohnmobil on Cologne's red mile. I think it is demeaning to offer so little. I would rather have read that the guy takes them out for a good meal and the sex comes as a thank you. At least in my view he would be treating them with more respect and taking more interest in them, as after all he says they are housewives, so not pros.
Let us not behave like arrogrant pricks.
And I do think this fifty year old monger should get a life. He has nothing better to do than spend time with spreadsheets on womens' particulars? Nothing better to do on a Sunday than visit a sex club? No friends, no normal social circle? This is sad, very sad.
Where is the fun, spontaneity and zest in this existence of his? His life is the opposite of what sex is supposed to be about. Indeed it all sounds very German to me - regulated, mapped out, and dull.
Like the joke about the Germans - 'Who says we cannot be spontaneous! Just tell us when!'
I am making several points. Naturally we all want the best fuck for the buck. But you can't pay the price of a Mini and expect to get a Rolls Royce. As this is a business let's treat it with proper business decency and not try to (excuse the pun) screw the tart for every penny. This monger who is in his fifties offers his women fifty euros an hour. That price will normally get you a bleached blonde in a tawdry wohnmobil on Cologne's red mile. I think it is demeaning to offer so little. I would rather have read that the guy takes them out for a good meal and the sex comes as a thank you. At least in my view he would be treating them with more respect and taking more interest in them, as after all he says they are housewives, so not pros.
Let us not behave like arrogrant pricks.
And I do think this fifty year old monger should get a life. He has nothing better to do than spend time with spreadsheets on womens' particulars? Nothing better to do on a Sunday than visit a sex club? No friends, no normal social circle? This is sad, very sad.
Where is the fun, spontaneity and zest in this existence of his? His life is the opposite of what sex is supposed to be about. Indeed it all sounds very German to me - regulated, mapped out, and dull.
Like the joke about the Germans - 'Who says we cannot be spontaneous! Just tell us when!'
Hey dude, get off the fucking soapbox.
And I do think this fifty year old monger should get a life. He has nothing better to do than spend time with spreadsheets on womens' particulars? Nothing better to do on a Sunday than visit a sex club? No friends, no normal social circle? This is sad, very sad.
Marlow, you strike me as someone who may be young and innocent, cos believe me there are many seperated and divorced guys out there who have little outside their jobs. Life just isnt as simple as you think. And the older you get the quicker your friends drop away.
I have met many men in clubs all over the world similar to that old German guy.
Hey Gents,
Personally I would table this one and simply agree to disagree. Marlow made an observation and stated an opinion that is a fair one.
Also, the man has contributed some pretty informative and valuable information on this board and is certainly due a bit more respect than being written off as "young and innocent."
Just my two cents.
Cheers,
Dedalus
In agreement with Dedalus... two different points of view both with some value and now back on topic.
Excess
- getting beyond his sell by date and who failed to keep his innocence long ago.
In agreement with Dedalus... two different points of view both with some value and now back on topic.
Excess
- getting beyond his sell by date and who failed to keep his innocence long ago.
I agree we need to get back on topic........but it's true that most ladies in this business especially the classy ones would rather spend time with a guy who treats them with respect than a guy holding a wad of cash who thinks he can treat them like trash. For example, I've been seeing a Chinese massage woman who only offers her clients massage services but with her I get all the sex I would ever want. She keeps telling me I'm a good man and wonders why I'm not married. I pay her for the massage part but she refuses an extra tip for the sex because she likes me and enjoys the sex. She's a very attractive Chinese woman and is also a sex freak, which really surprises me. Prior to this I've never been attracted to Chinese women.
I thank Dedalus for the support and accurate comment. It is interesting how when you shake the tin you get unexpected rattles. There is life out there and it is as we know it (to adapt a well known phrase). I think we shouldn't forget this or give up - if we happen to be older and divorced - it is worth the effort. I know as I have been there: and seen men with everything to gain yet convincing themselves they have lost everything. So enough,......
A final word (from me) in quoting that very wise unknown Monger who originally coined the phrase so apt to this any many other situations - YMMV.
A Montreal forum is running a poll and guess what? To those guys its all about abbreviations:
What is a GFE Service?
gfe= bbbjtc, daty, dfk, Greek, msog
gfe = bbbj, daty, dfk,greek, msog
gfe= bbbj,daty,dfk,msog
gfe= cbj,dfk,msog
gfe= cbj, msog
gfe= cbj one shot on goal allowed
To which I say: what about attitude and overall sexuality?
Hessen Bub
12-19-06, 20:02
For example, I've been seeing a Chinese massage woman who only offers her clients massage services but with her I get all the sex I would ever want.
Ever thought about the possibility that you are not the only one she's telling this and having sex with? Same story as "I do not fuck without condom, but with you it is different!"
In the P6-business, be careful what you believe and what not.
Hessen Bub
Ever thought about the possibility that you are not the only one she's telling this and having sex with? Same story as "I do not fuck without condom, but with you it is different!"
In the P6-business, be careful what you believe and what not.
Hessen Bub
Yes, I'll always have my doubts, you never know with these ladies.
A Montreal forum is running a poll and guess what? To those guys its all about abbreviations:
To which I say: what about attitude and overall sexuality?
I agree with you- in fact the most important for me is OOBA - "out of bedroom attitude". Without that I woul dnever find out about BBBJ and all the rest. Does she smile? Does she talk? Does she have interests, personality, something between the ears? Would I like to spend some time with her before and after the session? Does she have OOBA?
I agree with you- in fact the most important for me is OOBA - "out of bedroom attitude". Without that I woul dnever find out about BBBJ and all the rest. Does she smile? Does she talk? Does she have interests, personality, something between the ears? Would I like to spend some time with her before and after the session? Does she have OOBA?
We think alike, dude!
I'm as much into making a connection with her at some level as I am into the physical act so if she does indeed smile, have an interesting personality and interests, she stands head and shoulders above the ones I meet who look great but are complete duds.
I've done enough Optikficks to know to be wary of them.
The RF (the Rhein version) is naming a Blaskoenigin or Blowjob Queen for 2006 and I thought it might be interesting to see what voting results look like so far.
The data below consists of her name, where she works (or use to work) and then the number of times she was named for first place, second place and third place. The last number is her number of points (four for first place, two for second place and one for third place).
Tanja, Hof, = 3,0,1 = 13
Vivian, Samya, = 2,1,1,= 11
Marina, BN, = 2,0,0 = 8
Ella, Michelle-Team, = 1,1,0 = 6
Elena, Samya, = 1,0,1 = 5
Ewa, BN, = 1,0,1 = 5
Amanda, Ex-Hof, Ex-Samya, = 1,0,0 = 4
Angelique, DAB, AC, = 1,0,0 = 4
Anna, Vorsterstr, = 1,0,0 = 4
Cora, Huerth, = 1,0,0 = 4
Gyna, TP, = 1,0,0 = 4
Liliane, Ex-Wiago, = 1,0,0 = 4
Mada, GT/LR = 1,0,0 = 4
I haven’t figured out how to show a table on this forum and so I had to resort to this presentation method.
Note the number of places of employment.
I did a cut off at four points. There are numerous women who have earned three points and fewer.
The four point scorers only required that one person name her for first place. Though this not be that meaningful, I thought it was of interest just same.
I'll do a final update when all of the results are in in February.
This is a question which would never be asked in English: Does one use the formal "Sie" or the informal "Du" in a Puff or bordello?
This dude, testerlein, posted this question on the RF. I thought it was amusing.
Hallo,
ich gönnte mir gestern eine kleine Nummer in der Immenburg (Bericht folgt noch). Was mir aufgefallen und vorher noch nie passiert ist: Beim ankobern wurde ich von drei Mädels gesiezt... eine Polin im Abzockerflur, eine Asiatin und eine Deutsche.
Da mir das noch nie passiert ist:
- kommt das öfter vor?
- liegt es an meinem fortgeschrittenen Alter?
Beste Grüße,
testerlein
He was at the Immenburg RLD and he was addressed with "Sie" by three women: a Polish woman on the Abzocker or "rip off" corridor, an Asian woman and a German woman.
Apparently he was taken a bit aback as it had never happened to him before and therefore is asking: does this happen often? Is it possible that it has something to do with his advanced age?
Some of the answers in answer to this question were quite amusing too.
One of the guys says an American colleague of his had studied school German and was convinced that he had to use "Sie" with all individuals older than 18 years of age. This, of course, is not followed but the word hadn't gotten out to this dude.
For the record, I never "siezen" in a club. Its way too formal and stiff for my taste.
Improper use of the "Sie" form is to be avoided as much as improper use of the "Du" form. Using the wrong form is a sure way to out yourself as a tourist or a newbie.
The incongruity of it is in the mismatch between naked or near naked women and extremely formal language.
As Daniel Baals of the RF notes:
"Bitte FICKEN Sie mich" klingt aber auch etwas komisch, oder?
To my consternation I find that I have not yet done ANY of the current RF Top 13. Despite all my best efforts. Oh well, "after the game is before the game", to employ a German soccer expression. Just have to get back out onto the field, train harder, and do better next year. LOL.
I may be going to Germany the week between Christmas and New Year's.
I would imagine the talent in the Frankfurt and Cologne FKK's will be spare, with poor selection and limited ladies.
Is this correct and generally not a good time to visit? Or will the talent be fine?
I may be going to Germany the week between Christmas and New Year's.
I would imagine the talent in the Frankfurt and Cologne FKK's will be spare, with poor selection and limited ladies.
Is this correct and generally not a good time to visit? Or will the talent be fine?
.. under the Babylon thread.
Why keep repeating what has already been said?
Next!
Hi all, I am planning with my friends to try FKK, we never been there and we are non-resident in Germany.
We will travel by car and get into German border via Innsbruck-Rosenheim-Munchen.
I am reading and I will keep on read on the forum here to do my homeworks :) however it seems for me from now that most of FKK are far from Munchen and from south of German..
Anybody can suggest me 2 good FKK clubs in south of Germany or at least the closer ones to Munchen?
I read the top five of FKK club...but we will prefer to find something good and near Munchen, so we can go there often and only for one day. ( it means less hassles at work, in family..;) )
Once back as usual my report.
Happy Xmas to everybody!!!
..Anybody can suggest me 2 good FKK clubs in south of Germany or at least the closer ones to Munchen?...
Do a search for "CoLA" in the "Other clubs" thread and you will get some hints.
Chivaz
Do a search for "CoLA" in the "Other clubs" thread and you will get some hints.
Chivaz
.. you will find the reports which refer to CoLa or Colosseum.
Its post #1833 on this thread and post #1270 on the "Other Clubs" thread.
Yes, southern Germany has some activity but Muenchen is not exactly a hot spot for it.
One other club in the Muenchen area is Sudfass Oase in Pasing.
Don't forget to file a report when you get back!
Dick Rambone
12-24-06, 16:31
Does anybody know if this is going to affect the FKK's or other bordello's?
Dick
Does anybody know if this is going to affect the FKK's or other bordello's?
Dick
Is there a link that talks about this? Is it a law now? I know Goldentime's main room gets almost impossible to tolerate (no ventilation) with all the smoke. No smoke would surely help clear the air.
Anyway...always thought it strange anyway...a saunaclub promoting health and wellbeing...and everybody smoking away like there was no tomorrow.
Does anybody know if this is going to affect the FKK's or other bordello's?
DickI have understood from one of the girls it's not for the FKK as it are private places, not public places.
the FKK as it are private places, not public places.
Im probably jumping to conclusions here...but id have to guess if the police check the papers of the girls working in the clubs, the government wont look at the clubs as private places.
Im probably jumping to conclusions here...but id have to guess if the police check the papers of the girls working in the clubs, the government wont look at the clubs as private places.That's another issue. The government is checking both in public and private places if you are legal or illegal in the country, so you can also be checked when you are at home. They will not (yet?) tell you it's forbidden to smoke at home.
Happy Xmas!
Happy New Year...Keep up the search for the perfect Cameltoe.
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Happy New Year...Keep up the search for the perfect Cameltoe.
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Happy New Year
euro
Happy new year, and welcome to the annual FKK awards!
The nominees are: Oase, World, Palace and Goldentime, the four only FKK that manage to have a line-up with at least 40-50 girls. Those FKK are obviously way above the others. Still, being the sole member of the jury, I give myself the right to add a fith nominee, but I think the audience will agree with it: Bernd's!
On number 5 : Bernd's!
Everything has already been said about Bernd's, this legendary club with it's unique atmosphere and level of service. Still, it would not be fair to put a club with less than 20 girls and poor infrastucture above the other top clubs.
On number 4: Palace!
I have allways ranked the three Frankfurt clubs way above the others. Even if my last visit in June at Palace was great, I'm concerned about the way this club doing lately. All forums seem to agree about this, Palace has a few serious issues: theft, bad attitude of girls, ripp off and last but not least entrance price raised to 75€! This is not anymore a FKK spirit. I guess the location within Frankfurt has something to do with it. Most clubs located within main cities tend to be ripp off clubs, as the customers are mainly tourists and foreign business men, easy to ripp off. Even if Palace is not yet to be put in the category of ripp off clubs, the ranking drop from number three to number four is a strongh warning towards the management.
On number 3: Goldentime!
Goldentime is doing better and better each year. The number of girls and customers keep growing and is now at a Frankfurt level. The atmosphere even without the naked dressing policy is nearly as wild as the Frankfurt clubs and couch action has become the norm, especially on summer in the outdoor garden. The service is even better than in Frankfurt as it's a club of regular customers. And last but not least, pricing is the lowest of all 5 clubs, allowing extended time sessions for an excellent deal. The main problem of this club is that the facilities are not designed for such crowd, especially during winter without the outdoor garden.
On number 2: Oase!
Oase is still a great club with the best line-up. But facilities are poor for such a club, even with the ventilation improvement.It would not be fair to rank Oase number one with such facilities.
And the winner is....FKK World!
World has always been the FKK with the best facilities, and the management puts a lot of efforts to make this club the best of all. The line-up has not yet the quantity and the diversity of Oase, but keeps going better each year. But the best improvement comes from it's atmosphere, nearly as wild now as Oase. Yes, it's clearly my favorite club.
[QUOTE=Routard] Happy new year, and welcome to the annual FKK awards!
On number 4: Palace!
I have allways ranked the three Frankfurt clubs way above the others. Even if my last visit in June at Palace was great, I'm concerned about the way this club doing lately. All forums seem to agree about this, Palace has a few serious issues: theft, bad attitude of girls, ripp off and last but not least entrance price raised to 75€! This is not anymore a FKK spirit. I guess the location within Frankfurt has something to do with it. Most clubs located within main cities tend to be ripp off clubs, as the customers are mainly tourists and foreign business men, easy to ripp off. Even if Palace is not yet to be put in the category of ripp off clubs, the ranking drop from number three to number four is a strongh warning towards the management.
[QUOTE]
I think a 10E raise is pretty stiff. But I suspect the other clubs will also raise their prices since the VAT is going up 3% in January!! Expect to pay more for everything. I will boycott Palace on my next visit. The price/service ratio is definitely not worth it. I also suspect that the number of girls will decrease since they have to pay the increase too and thus, you get a larger possibility of processor girls. Wonder which club they will go to.
Happy new year, and welcome to the annual FKK awards!
The nominees are: Oase, World, Palace and Goldentime, the four only FKK that manage to have a line-up with at least 40-50 girls. Those FKK are obviously way above the others. Still, being the sole member of the jury, I give myself the right to add a fith nominee, but I think the audience will agree with it: Bernd's!
Mon Ami,
The great thing about democracy is that we can all agree to disagree, and we'll all be right in believing that our own opinion is the correct one.
I have serious misgivings with the main criteria that you chose. Yes, if quantity of women and overall facility size are the most important weighted factors then these 4 would be at or near the top of the list. But they always would be there as these are fixed factors that almost never change. And if these are the main consideration, then Artemis, Colosseum and Harem, should also be on the list of nominees.
IMO, it is the variable factors that are far more important, are constantly changing, and seperate the wheat from the chaffe. These variables are service level, variety of standard services on offer, value for money, general atmosphere, ambience, pre-coital and post-coital levels, professional and receptive management, chances for GFE, sights and sounds (such as active kino, couch action), special events, loose and laid back atmosphere, ratio of good SP to bad SP, service consistency, etc.
GT shouldn't even be on a list of FKK nominees as it is not an FKK club. Palace with all of the newbie scamming, churn and burn atmosphere and ripoff tactics that have been reported this year, should certainly not be on the 2006 list.
My 2006 nominee list would include World, Oase, Bernd's, Heavensgate, Artemis, ColA and Cocoon.
[ On number 5 : Bernd's!
Everything has already been said about Bernd's, this legendary club with it's unique atmosphere and level of service. Still, it would not be fair to put a club with less than 20 girls and poor infrastucture above the other top clubs..
It's well known that the facility is not on par with the Hessen 3 and other newer and bigger clubs, but that is part of the raunchy charm and character of the place.
Those less than 20 girls give consistently good service, the club has a great atmosphere and ambience, pre-coital and post-coital levels are high, BBBJ by the masseuse, CIM, COB, and anal are on offer and it's very well managed for many years. Aren't these more important than the size of the building or age of the couches. We're going there for the sex aren't we?
[ On number 2: Oase!
Oase is still a great club with the best line-up. But facilities are poor for such a club, even with the ventilation improvement.It would not be fair to rank Oase number one with such facilities...
We're going there for the sex aren't we? It still has the most varied and consistently good lineup of the Hessen 3 and, while not at Artemis or World levels, the facilities particularly the Kino, sauna and summer garden are very good. The management has consistently shown that it is receptive to suggestions and criticisms. A few years ago they added air conditioning and additional zimmers, and now the bar area has been extended, couches are switched, ventilation has improved and we'll still need to see how the outdoor renovations add or subtract to the facility. But it's the variable factors that make the difference and IMO put it ahead of World.
[ And the winner is....FKK World!
World has always been the FKK with the best facilities, and the management puts a lot of efforts to make this club the best of all. The line-up has not yet the quantity and the diversity of Oase, but keeps going better each year. But the best improvement comes from it's atmosphere, nearly as wild now as Oase. Yes, it's clearly my favorite club.
Maybe it's me, but I stll find the whole wintergarden upstairs area very cold and forbidding and not conducive to good interplay between clients and between clients and SP. Too much standing around and staring at each other. I also find it too big, and hard to keep track of the comings and goings. And while improving, the level of service is just not as consistent as it should be. Don't get me wrong, i like this club, I've had some great life-altering experiences there, and it's in my top 3.
My Best of 2006 winner is Bernd's, followed by Oase, followed by World.
Hessen Bub
01-03-07, 10:11
World has always been the FKK with the best facilities, and the management puts a lot of efforts to make this club the best of all.
Best outside facilities, maybe. I don't really like the interior.
The line-up has not yet the quantity and the diversity of Oase, but keeps going better each year. But the best improvement comes from it's atmosphere, nearly as wild now as Oase.
Oase does not have a good line-up at present. What was the last time you visited World or Oase? World is very very quiet at the moment, the show is over and the dance combo has gone. Oase also is very quiet.
Best line-up: Definitely Palace!
Hessen Bub
Best line-up: Definitely Palace!
Palace with all of the newbie scamming, churn and burn atmosphere and ripoff tactics that have been reported this year, should certainly not be on the 2006 list.
Haha!! Make a world with this! That's why I've put myself as sole member of the jury! :D
Iseeu, I have a lot of respect for your expertize. However, I'm surprised about your nominee list. Heavensgate and Cocoon are nice clubs and probably the best deal you can get in the Western World. But they remain budget FKK. Regarding the other FKK you have mentioned, I have never visited them, and can only rely on what has been reported by others. There have hardly been any reports about Harem. Peter has reported once about it and mentioned only 15 girls. Regarding Colosseum, Euro had made an enthusiastic report about it as well as Toscana, but both have reported 20-30 girls, so both FKK can not enter in the "40-50 girls FKK" division. Regarding Artemis, you might be right. I have found plenty of reviews with mixed feelings about it and reporting less than 20 girls, but Toscana has compared then to the Frankfurt top three in one of his legendary reports. Unless you apply on Artemis the same rule you have applied to GT by disqualifying it for wrong dressing policy...
Thanks Iseeu, you helped me to build up my to do list for my next FKK tour. you made me curious to find it out myself. :)
I guess there is no better way to start a long discussion than throwing in this thread a personal ranking of the best FKK. ;) Best should be to ask to Jackson to start a poll...
... with two small exceptions:
I'd take Bernds and Goldentime off the list.
This will send the traffic (particularly the newbie traffic) down to Frankfurt and leave the NRW clubs unspoiled and untouched for those of us in the know.
Just my two cents. :-)
If someone without any prior experience goes to World and decides it is the best club in the world and he shouldn't visit any other clubs, that is really just fine with me. (Hehe... )
Haha!! Make a world with this! That's why I've put myself as sole member of the jury! :D
Well in either case, the jury obviously has a previous bias - you for World, me for Bernd's and Oase. In any case it was a good idea to start this discussion which IMO whould focus on the clubs that stood out in 2006.
Iseeu, I have a lot of respect for your expertize. However, I'm surprised about your nominee list. Heavensgate and Cocoon are nice clubs and probably the best deal you can get in the Western World. But they remain budget FKK. Regarding the other FKK you have mentioned, I have never visited them, and can only rely on what has been reported by others. There have hardly been any reports about Harem. Peter has reported once about it and mentioned only 15 girls. Regarding Colosseum, Euro had made an enthusiastic report about it as well as Toscana, but both have reported 20-30 girls, so both FKK can not enter in the "40-50 girls FKK" division. Regarding Artemis, you might be right. I have found plenty of reviews with mixed feelings about it and reporting less than 20 girls, but Toscana has compared then to the Frankfurt top three in one of his legendary reports. Unless you apply on Artemis the same rule you have applied to GT by disqualifying it for wrong dressing policy...
My point was that we have different criteria for choosing. I don't agree that only a club in the "40-50 girls FKK" division should be considered. If half of the women in a big club give bad service then that club for me only has 20-25 to choose from....If most of the girls in a smaller even "budget club" give great service, and the place has great atmosphere and good value for money, I would choose over a bigger club with hit or miss and inconsistent service, and higher chance of disappointing sessions.
I mentioned Harem with its good facilities, but reported so-so service, to make the point that clubs with good facilities shouldn't automatically make the list. I too have not been there, but it obviously cannot compare with the best clubs.
I have been to all of my nominees this year and they are all IMO at the top of the profession this year. Artemis has made great progress this past year, but you are right that it is not strictly FKK although many of the women are all of the time. Colosseum is consistently good, and deserves high marks for keeping a high service level and Hessen/NRW pricing level even though it is only the beacon of hope in the Bavarian wasteland. Both Heavensgate and Cocoon give good consistent service and keep up a good steady business of returning customers despite the numerous mongering options available in NRW.
So there's no surprises on my nominees list. Of course if any new nominees would like to make my list for next year, I would be happy to consider them if I can get some free samples. I'm not biased, just corrupt :-)
Guys,
This is a great discussion. I find it both educational and inspirational. I hope it continues and that more guys give their input, in particular if ISG legends like Euro100, Toscana, Peter, Dedalus, Chivaz, Jackyo (the complete list, pleeeease!!), Ortos and others will participate.
I regret that my own 2006 FKK experience is limited to the Big Three in Hessen. Hopefully 2007 will bring me to Bernd's and the NRW clubs too (yes, it has become a serious addiction ...). For what it is worth, my list would be something like this:
1. Oase
Consistantly good line-up and unforgettable outdoor memories from spring and summer of 2006.
2. Palace
Guess I have been lucky this year, as I have been able to avoid most of the bad apples. Which leaves me with a dozen highly competent SPs and great memories. Geography also a plus.
3. World
Don't get me wrong. This is a great club. But geography (distance from downtown Frankfurt), a somewhat boring upper level, and ... the Oase girls just won't let me go! ... leaving me exhausted - and happy - all the time, keep me away from World (only two visits in 2006). But I am STILL shaking after the Tornado was all over me ...!! ;-)
I also have a Shark's Top 10 Hessen Babes list here somewhere ....
well, for me it is like this:
gt is great for its pricing structure and is pretty consistent in the lineup of girls. the feeding frenzy around dinner and pizza time is just silly and the wait for rooms in the evening is a drag. the 1 am closing time is also a handicap. the pricing for the second half hour as well as the low pricing on the extras gives you a better chance to just roll with it and be spontaneous. when you are with 3 or more of your buddies, it is hard to find seating inside where you can sit and chat. all in all, i really like this club, and it is great in the summer time. the sheets on the beds are a nice touch. fridays suck big time as it is overcrowded
oase is like an old girlfriend, facilities have seen better times, but always a sure thing. some of my favorites are still there. i also really like this club although i do put towels on the sofas like the girls do (they have replaced the sofas though and done some upgrading of the club)
world is the best one when you are with a group, but probably the most boring one when you are alone. i love this club though and the staff there really does a good job keeping the place in top shape. i have a nice relationship with some of the girls there which makes it a sure thing for a good visit for me.
i used to like palace a lot, and i always have had pretty good sessions there, but i have not visited for a while. i plan to boycott the club due to its price increase. i vote with my money, and my vote will not go to the club with the highest entrance unless it really rocks, and it does not.
tried yin yang for the first time this year and it was pretty good. had great sessions there and the facilities are good. best hot tub / sauna area and great food as well. free energy drinks (red bull replicas) are a nice touch. good club with great potential but in need of a just a little better lineup of girls.
dropped by couple of other clubs but not worth writing home about.
it also depends on personal preferences. is it all about the sex? no, not all. good sex, bad club is a no go for me. bad sex and good club....well, i almost never had that one happen to me. when i visit, i usually meet up with friends from this and other boards and the way the club facilitates in terms of seating, comfort, dining area, food etc. does play a big part in the selection. that is why we often end up at world. yin yang is also good in this regard.
overcrowded clubs are a drag and empty ones can be boring even if there are lots of girls. every club will have one or the other happen to it from time to time and each day can be different.
i have never really had a bad visit. i have only once gone to a club and left without doing a session and that was at flamingo island in summer of 2004. it is a good club though with good facilities and very friendly staff. i just did not feel attraction to the girls there then and was not particularly horny so i just hung out by the pool, ate a pretty good bbq and had a good relaxing time.
so what is the best club? i guess it depends on what is important to each individual. is it public sex, [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), mature girls with great service, voyeurism, budget, facilities, food, outdoor area, gfe, pse, some other e...it all depends on personal preferences. public sex and voyeurism is not important to me so bernds does not have that big of an attraction. i am not overly budget concerned looking for the most bang for the buck so partytreffs also hold limited attraction for me. i can understand these being absolutely fabulous for someone with different preferences.
the thing that would make a club really bad is girls ripping off customers and as it looks like now, seems like palace is getting there step by step going from a good fkk club to a tourist trap.
i have been planning to visit atlantik for some time now as it has a few girls i have been with and i know to be great (like anita and yvette), but somehow never get my ass over there.
for me the best club changes almost with every visit and has a lot to do with my own state of mind at the moment so i just say that the best club is the club i am at that moment.
my best advice: don't overanalyze it, have fun with whatever comes your way in the club, smile and strike up a conversation with your fellow punters as well as the girls and you will have a good time in most situations.
enough of my incoherent ranting for now
chivaz
Felipe2006
01-05-07, 01:23
Hi, guys,
What a wonderful discussion!
I have discovered Fkk clubs this past year. First visit was in late August at Palace, and I'm sure each of you can remember what it felt like as a newbie the first time. :)
So I've been checking out many of the famous clubs in the past few months.
For me personally, the best place is GT – great girls, good pricing, friendly staff, great outdoor. True, the food could be better, and it's getting very crowded. I remember one Friday in October, I arrived at GT at around 3pm – having organized my schedule all week long to be able to get off work Friday 1pm – and guess what, the parking lot was full already.). Still, most of my top sessions took place here, so I'll continue to frequent the place. Maybe try going during the week though that's difficult for me. PHG is also very good, if a notch below GT in terms of girls, imho. But the bar is quite lively, more so than GT, which is very nice. The place also seems to have changing contingents of girls form one country – first time I was there (October) there were 10 Hungarians (out of 40 girls overall), in December it was 10 Romanians. I was skeptical about the Hungarians at first – in the Spanish clubs I used to go the Romanians would always change their nationality (Hungarian, Croatian, Russian etc), but then would speak Romanian to each other:). But these Hungarians were for real (Hungarian is unlike any other European language). Had a wonderful session with red-haired Gavitsa. As I'm usually by myself I the clubs, I had to overcome my initial shyness and talk to other guys in clubs – some people have really amazing stories to tell (just like many of the girls of course). I had a great philosophical discussion covering. Well, just about everything – so who says Fkk can't stimulate your intellect as well as your body?
On the funny side, in Oase I talked to a guy who told me "it's so boring that they only show sports on the TV", I ask him what should they put on, MTV or what? No, he says, politics & news, like ntv (a German news channel)! He must be the only guy. I laughed & suggested he take it up with the Oase management:)
I've had great times in Palace, and the only thing I don't like is that it's too dark inside, it looks a bit like a dungeon. I haven't been back since late November and now Palace gets a lot of negative news on the German forums. The price increase is also bad – maybe they are trying their own version of Mehrwertsteuererhöhung. :). We'll have to see how the situation develops.
What Chivaz says about World being boring when alone is very true. I've only been once (on a slow day) and I did feel bored in the place – the aptly named "airport" hangar. Had two so-so sessions. I hope next time I can do better, another project for 2007.
Fazit: My list for 2006 is (1) GT – (2) Palace – (3) PHG and (4) Oase. Maybe (hopefully) World will be in my list for 2007.
Relax & enjoy
Felipe
On my excursions last year I visited FKKW (5 times), ColA (twice), Malibu (twice), Oase (3 times), Palace (twice), Bernd, Atlantik and dropped about $3k for the hobby there for 36 girls, some of which I had multiple sessions with.
My ranking:
1. FKKW (no surprise)
2. Oase
3. Cola
4. Bernd
And just to add one more spin to the whole discussion, I hobbied in 4 countires last year. I would rate my experiences in these countries as follows:
1. Brazil
2. Germany
3. Canada
4. (after a very large gap) Mexico
Happy New Year
euro
Oh, since one always has to check one's own judgement: I will be at Oase next Saturday and ColA on Sunday, FKKW sometime after that. I'll let you know if my rankings have changed.
Well, I guess this is the one time of year when you try to sort things out a bit and take stock again: get a check-up at the doc, file everything in anticipation of the income-tax declaration, review the career options - if any, survey the past year’s mongering and lay down plans for the coming year at the FKKs and elsewhere. It seems a lot of you guys do exactly the same. LOL. I must admit it is going a bit far, when one's New Year Resolutions include FKK activities.....
I’m not going to join the definitional battle as to what qualifies as an FKK. The ones I went to are either FKK by name, or considered by me to be one, i.e. I get a towel or robe to wear with as much sartorial elegance as I muster (not much, I am afraid), and I then go fishing with lines baited with tempting crispy orange notes.
Visited at least once:
The Hessen Three
Finca Erotica
Bernd’s
Neunkirchen
Artemis
Colosseum
Samya
Prague
I've no really strong preferences, they all have the pluses and minuses. Although I will say that Prague is really dropping off the scale rapidly, and Bernd's have made so much money that they could put a bit back into that worn out infrastructure.
If you're interested in the providers, I kept tally of 58 new FKK girls not including repeats. Alzheimer’s (which I’ve had for as long as I can remember ;-) ) saves me from totalling up how much I spent.
Only five girls got marked with deep yellow last year, which denotes the truly exceptional:
Linda, Neunkirchen,
Celina, Artemis,
Anna, Colosseum,
Veronika, Prague,
Charlie, Artemis.
Note that noone made it to the list from the Hessen Three last year. Quite a lot of other good, lighter yellow, sessions, but you aren’t really interested, I can tell.
Hessen Bub
01-05-07, 15:18
Linda, Neunkirchen,
Celina, Artemis,
Anna, Colosseum,
Veronika, Prague,
Charlie, Artemis.
Note that noone made it to the list from the Hessen Three last year. Quite a lot of other good, lighter yellow, sessions, but you aren’t really interested, I can tell.
I would also rather rate the girls than the clubs. And Celina was at Oase before going to Berlin, also Charlie was at Palace. So the Hessen Three would have had 2 out of 5 12 months earlier.
Hessen Bub
I would also rather rate the girls than the clubs. And Celina was at Oase before going to Berlin, also Charlie was at Palace. So the Hessen Three would have had 2 out of 5 12 months earlier.
Hessen Bub
Not quite. Celina has been away from Oase for well over a year now, right?
Cheers,
Dedalus
but the Charlie at Artemis is not the Charlie who was at Palace. Same pedigree though :-)
I would also rather rate the girls...... Hessen Bub
We are waiting, with baited breath.
Hessen Bub
01-05-07, 16:24
but the Charlie at Artemis is not the Charlie who was at Palace. Same pedigree though :-)
German, blonde, slim? That's the one I refer to (haircut may vary):
http://www.the-palace.de/pics/girls/264/l.jpg
http://www.the-palace.de/pics/girls/263/l.jpg
We are waiting, with baited breath.
Vicky, Chech Republic, The Palace
Vicky, Brasil, FKK-World
Vanessa, Poland, The Palace
TIK, Thailand, Samya
Joy, Thailand, The Palace
Alice, DomRep, The Palace
Judith, Ungarn, Oase
Princess, Gouadeloupe, Schieferhof
Casey, Jamaica, Golden Time
Hessen Bub
No, it's a different Charlie, the one in Berlin is from the Dresden area, ash blonde (natural), and has bigger tits.
Vicky, Chech Republic, The Palace
Vicky, Brasil, FKK-World
Vanessa, Poland, The Palace
TIK, Thailand, Samya
Joy, Thailand, The Palace
Alice, DomRep, The Palace
Judith, Ungarn, Oase
Princess, Gouadeloupe, Schieferhof
Casey, Jamaica, Golden Time
Hessen Bub
I might add the following Hessen girls to the list:
Inna, Bulgaria, Palace
Olga, Russia, FKKW
Daniela, Romania, FKKW
Sonja, Czech Rep., Oase
Larissa, Romania, FKKW
Kathrin, Russia, Palace
Maria/Victoria, Bulgaria, Palace
I have to note that my Palace sweethearts have not been seen there for some time.
There may be a few more but these are the ones from the top of my head.
Cheers,
Dedalus
1. Mona, Romania, Oase
2. Inna, Bulgaria, Palace
3. Jany, Russia/Germany, Oase
4. Eva, Germany, Oase
5. Leah, Germany, Palace
6. Daniela, Romania, World
7. Paola, Chile, Oase
8. Raphaela, Brazil, Oase
9. Lina, Czech, Palace (guess I am asking for trouble ...) ;-)
10. Juliette, Russia, Oase
It's been a while since I saw these beauties, and I have no idea of their 2007 plans.
Hessen Bub
01-05-07, 18:41
Inna, Bulgaria, Palace
I have to note that my Palace sweethearts have not been seen there for some time.
I've seen her at Palace on December 27 and the weeks before. That's the dark-haired girl with silicon tits, formerly at Oase?
Hessen Bub
I've seen her at Palace on December 27 and the weeks before. That's the dark-haired girl with silicon tits, formerly at Oase?
Hessen Bub
Yes. That's good news. Thanks!
Top 30 is maybe overdoing it a bit, but in somewhat order of preference (with the best at the top) had very good to great sessions with:
Gabriela – Venezuela (Oase)
Melissa – Kyrgistan/Turkey (GT)
Yvette – Poland (World)
Christina – Ukraine (GT)
Viktoria – Hungary (Yin Yang)
Luana – Poland (GT)
Andrea – Romania (World)
Lizzy – Moldova (Oase)
Anka - Romania (World and Oase)
Maria – Bulgaria (World)
Beatrice – Poland (Oase)
Anita – Poland (World)
Daniela – Romania (World)
Cindy – Poland (GT)
Karina – Romania (World)
Steffi – Russia (Oase)
Tina – Germany (Oase)
Fransecka (Oase)
Julia – Latvia (World)
Alexandra – Serbia (World)
Charlie – Holland (Palace)
Jana – Slovakia (World)
Esmeralda – Romania (World)
Sandra – Romania (GT)
Isabel – Brazil (World)
Martha – Poland (Yin Yang)
Melissa – Poland (GT)
Sonja – Czeck (Oase)
Judith – Hungary (Yin Yang)
June – Thai (World)
Now it is time to start collecting for 2007 :-)
Chivaz
Hessen Bub
01-05-07, 22:10
Fransecka (Oase)
Franceska, Romania?
Hessen Bub
Franceska, Romania?
Hessen Bub
I am not sure where she is from, but yes, Romania could be it. Blond, rather big natural tits, a bit chubby, kind of like natural version of Sunny but a little fatter. Very pretty face. She used to work out of a privat before. Speaks good english and curses like a drunk sailor. Had a lot of fun with this girl. Only seen her once in the club (last summer). Hung out with her for about 90 minutes in the bed inside the tent outside on a warm summer night.
You know if she is still around?
Chivaz
OH yeah, girl ranking; that's fun.
So here goes my top 10 list:
10. (A seven-way tie, all of them excellent):
Julie (Brazil, at L'uomo, Rio)
Diana (Germany, 'Hof)
Jasmin (France, FKKW)
Bany (Cuba, FKKW)
Vivian (Kazakstan, ColA - she used to be Laura at Atlantis)
Ambra (Romania, Palace)
Agata (Portugal/Czech, 'Hof)
9. Anita (Poland, Malibu):
Yes, she only made it to #9. She was terific, but the ones below were just better.
8. Jana (Slovakia, FKKW):
Last year's #2. Oh well, it couldn't last. (By the way, last year's #1, Ingrid from Rio, did not even make it back into my top 10, despite me trying her twice again. Last year's #3, Andrea (Czech, FKKW) seems to have quit the business)
7. Dara (Brazil, in L'uomo, Rio):
Her eyes alone can make me weak.
6. Irina (Russia, FKKW)
I have had four sessions with her this year, and they were all great.
5. Pricilla (Brazil, in 502, Rio):
Least expensive of all pops this year (around 30 euro), but what a ride :)
4. Olga (Russia, FKKW):
That BBBJ alone is worth the price of admission; same rank as last year
3. Claudia (Poland, Oase):
Gave true GFE, but looks like an Optikfick; a win-win situation
2. Renata (Czech, in Oase):
shower together, then 1 hours session, then another shower together (then I discovered that I had lost my key ... good times, boys, good times ;))
and the winner is ... drumroll, please:
1. Poliana (Brazil, in 4x4, Rio):
perhaps the wildest ride I ever had; also the dupla (two girls, she and her girlfriend) the next day was great :D
Holy shit, I am getting horny!!!
All For Bb
01-06-07, 02:20
When will be "Messe" in January/Febrary? I am planning my next vist and try to avoid the Messe. Please advise. Thanks!
Still quiet in World, Oase and Palace after New Year? I agree to boycott the Palace for price raising and for bad service of girls.
Hessen Bub
01-06-07, 09:21
Blond, rather big natural tits, a bit chubby, kind of like natural version of Sunny but a little fatter. Very pretty face. She used to work out of a privat before.
That's her. She used to work in an appartment in Hanau before. And yes, she's still around, at least she was on December 28.
Hessen Bub
When will be "Messe" in January/Febrary? I am planning my next vist and try to avoid the Messe. Please advise. Thanks!
http://www.messefrankfurt.com/corporate/en/
Chivaz
Hessen Bub
01-06-07, 20:04
I agree to boycott the Palace for price raising and for bad service of girls.
Avoiding Palace for the increase in price may be okay, but for bad service of girls?! Service from girls at Palace is not any different from girls at World or Oase.
You should for sure avoid Palace and Oase from Jan 10 to 13, becauce "Heimtextil" is one of the fairs with visitors hitting the FKKs heavily.
Hessen Bub
Warsteiner
01-06-07, 22:07
Thought I'd add my thoughts to this thread:
I realise that the clubs in the Frankfurt area can only be considered *real* FKK clubs as the women are naked but what about:
Samya
Blue Note
La Bedo (never visited myself but read some very favourable reports)
PHG
Samya - normally about 20 women present of which I'd go to the room with at least 12 of them, easily reachable by public transport, the website lets you know wich girl provides what service and when she will be present and home to Kinga who provides an excellent service (including anal, DFK, CIM, etc.) and is a definate 9+ in my book.
Blue Note - small and friendly club with a pub type atmosphere, the majority of the girls speak English, easily reachable by public transport, great service, cheap, home to Cindy who although a little bit skinny for my tastes still provides the best blowjob in the business and swallows without being asked.
La Bedo - Similar to Blue Note and, although it's still on my 'to-do list', there are some very good reports on the German boards.
PHG - Looking at this thread on the board either there are too many people visisting this club or they're just not writing reports. I visited in Dec and was blown away by the number of very attractive women, quality of service, quality of food (no waiting in line here as the girls eat their meals seperately). This club also has Lavinia who is extramely wild in the room and would warrant a visit to this club purely for a session with her. The club is a bit of a pain to get to by public transport and if you're driving you should use GPS but well worth a visit.
In the tradition of the last few posts my top 5 girls of 2006 are:
5 - Cindy - BN.
4 - Olga - GT.
3 - Kinga - Samya
1 - Vicky/Regi - Currently Palace but hopefully back in GT soon
1 - Laviania - PHG
I think with the messe (fair) ending Jan 13 that night should be Ok at Oase or Palace. I had no problem gettng a reasonable room at Radison for the 13th which indicates to me that with the fair ending on the 13th that night should be back to "normal".
But maybe I will head up to World just in case for my first night back in FKKland.
JL
All For Bb
01-07-07, 01:10
Avoiding Palace for the increase in price may be okay, but for bad service of girls?! Service from girls at Palace is not any different from girls at World or Oase.
I did find that girls in Palace are much pushy that Oase and World. Many other have this opinion.You should for sure avoid Palace and Oase from Jan 10 to 13, becauce "Heimtextil" is one of the fairs with visitors hitting the FKKs heavily.
Hessen Bub[/QUOTE]Thanks! From the web http://www.messefrankfurt.com/corporate/en/
I also find that Jan 24 to 28 should be avoid. I will go in between.
Hessen Bub
01-07-07, 13:24
You know if she is still around?
Chivaz
Francesca (Ex-Prestige-de-Fleur-Celine und Ex-Oase) was seen at FKK-Atlantik in Hanau saturday evening. No idea if she'll stay.
Hessen Bub
Samya
Blue Note
La Bedo (never visited myself but read some very favourable reports)
PHG
I visited Samya thrice in 06 and had the best experience of the year here with Cynthia, blonde from Hungary. She kissed very well, enjoyed my going down on her and generated a huge quantity of juices in her excitement. What is it about Hungarian women that makes them so passionate? I'd like to know. I also had the pleasure of meeting Kinga there.
I dropped in on Blue Note during the year and an old favorite, Nicole, is still there and still gives excellent, excellent service. Nicole is, as well, Hungarian, but petite and a brunette. Unbelievable BJ (and I'm saying this as someone who approaches BJs with caution).
La Bedo is a small club like Blue Note is but much more modern inside. It is equally relaxed and comparable service-wise. The sluttiest Polish woman I've ever met anywhere used to work here: Julia. (When I say "slutty", this doesn't include the Polish women I've been with at PT Dorsten, PT Wagenfeld, PT Osnabrueck and PT Muenster - they take the word "slutty" to an entirely new level. I do mean "slutty" in a good way, by the way.)
What is it about PHG these days? Nobody posts about it anymore.
Ok guys I have to admit it. I am an addicted monger!. I have been to an FKK 4 times, and I am an addict. I am planning my next trip for just a few short weeks from now, plan to hit PT Dorsten, then either Palace, Oase, or World. Not sure yet which though. Then hopefully in late spring or summer hit them again when the gardens are open and can see the girls outside.! Ya!.
What sucks for me is I live in the US, so it is quite a long trip that will require close to a week for me to do an entire trip.
It is too bad that the USA is so prude and conservative that we dont have places like this.
I did stop in a NV brothel a few years ago, but when the girl quoted me $1000.00 for 1 hr, I almost fell over laughing. I offered $150.00, she countered that I could whack off while she was naked.
For that $1000.00 I could have a hell of a time at a FKK.
I did stop in a NV brothel a few years ago, but when the girl quoted me $1000.00 for 1 hr, I almost fell over laughing. I offered $150.00, she countered that I could whack off while she was naked.
Did you??? :D
Felipe2006
01-07-07, 20:38
What is it about PHG these days? Nobody posts about it anymore.PHG is quite good in my experience. Great girls, if a notch below GT, but that may be just be my personal taste. Lively bar plus big TV, no whirlpool though. My highlights were Alini, a short blonde from Brasil and Estefania, a tall mulata from Dominican Republic. Don´t know if they are back in the new year though. I´ll be back in February & will report then.
Felipe
Did you??? :D
Hell no....I grabed a beer at the bar....and left, went home, and whacked off for free.
What sucks for me is I live in the US, so it is quite a long trip that will require close to a week for me to do an entire trip.
I used to think I needed at least 6 days there to justify the cost of my plane ticket. I started to realize that going to the room anywhere between 3 to 6 times a day for a week straight... those last couple of days got to be a bit of a grind and less enjoyable. So I don't try to justify the cost of the ticket or the time & effort to travel there anymore. 3 or 4 days is just about perfect for me despite the long commute, and I'm on the West Coast!
Just make sure that you fly nonstop to your destination as much as you can so you don't waste so much time in transit. I gather you must be in Dallas? You should have more than a few options, tho not as much as people on the east coast.
I did stop in a NV brothel a few years ago, but when the girl quoted me $1000.00 for 1 hr, I almost fell over laughing. I offered $150.00, she countered that I could whack off while she was naked.
For that $1000.00 I could have a hell of a time at a FKK.
On countless occasions I've been asked about the Nevada brothels, by the locals. I have a pat answer... "Pick out the ugliest girl here (assuming you're in an FKK or in a sauna club). Now imagine that girl said her rate to have a 'party' was $1000. That's what you get in a Nevada brothel."
Travelforfun
01-08-07, 11:57
Does anyone have latest info where Liljana( former BN & Labedo) is working now?
Does anyone have latest info where Liljana( former BN & Labedo) is working now?
Let me find out.
I've been tracking her whereabouts too.
Last I heard (or rather read), she was at Wiago. But then she quit.
Interesting tidbit I picked up on the RF: she has a sister who works at GT. Its possible she is there but let me find out.
I used to think I needed at least 6 days there to justify the cost of my plane ticket. I started to realize that going to the room anywhere between 3 to 6 times a day for a week straight... those last couple of days got to be a bit of a grind and less enjoyable. So I don't try to justify the cost of the ticket or the time & effort to travel there anymore. 3 or 4 days is just about perfect for me despite the long commute, and I'm on the West Coast!
Just make sure that you fly nonstop to your destination as much as you can so you don't waste so much time in transit. I gather you must be in Dallas? You should have more than a few options, tho not as much as people on the east coast.
On countless occasions I've been asked about the Nevada brothels, by the locals. I have a pat answer... "Pick out the ugliest girl here (assuming you're in an FKK or in a sauna club). Now imagine that girl said her rate to have a 'party' was $1000. That's what you get in a Nevada brothel."
Well I do work for an airline, so it does make it easier from a cost perspective. Getting the time is more of an issue. Heck I have even done a
"day trip" to Rio, fly in in the AM, go to a Termas, bang a bit, fly home on the red-eye.
Really the options for me in Dallas are AMP's and at $150-250 a shot. I would rather save up a bit, heck two shots at a AMP is almost a full day at a FKK, it certainly is at PT Dorsten. The other options are Mexico, ok for a quick cheap bang, but usually not a GFE, or a private escort where the good looking ones want $300-500 a shot. Thats just crazy. So my usual routine is 2x a year to Rio, 2x a year to Germany, 1x a year to Asia and the occasional SW, (but lately the quality is almost in the negative side of the scale.) On average at least 10-15 girls a trip.
I used to think I needed at least 6 days there to justify the cost of my plane ticket. I started to realize that going to the room anywhere between 3 to 6 times a day for a week straight... those last couple of days got to be a bit of a grind and less enjoyable. So I don't try to justify the cost of the ticket or the time & effort to travel there anymore. 3 or 4 days is just about perfect for me despite the long commuteI couldn't agree more. Last time I went over to Germany I stayed 10 days and by the tme I was on my 8th day I felt like I was just doing it because I could. 5 or 6 days is top now for the quality.
I also agree on the Nevada brothels. I did an all night at the Chicken Ranch in the 90's (or was it the 80's) with a girl who coudn't get a job doing the laundry at Oase for a princely sum that would pay for the air and 2 days at an FKK.
JL
Stonehenge68
01-10-07, 00:05
Hi fellow mongers and thank's for the knowledge you have brought on to this FKK newbie by reading this forum. An opportunity has arised for me to visit either the Düsseldorf/NRW or Frankfurt area on the third or maybe fourth weekend this month. Given a preference for Latin or black women would you recommend going to Oase and/or Palace or could any club in the NRW area be an alternative? I understand that some of the Latin crowd is on vacation now. Advice greatly appreciated.
Stoneh
Travelforfun
01-10-07, 14:00
Let me find out.
I've been tracking her whereabouts too.
Last I heard (or rather read), she was at Wiago. But then she quit.
Interesting tidbit I picked up on the RF: she has a sister who works at GT. Its possible she is there but let me find out.
Thanks mate, do share if u manage to find out.
Felipe2006
01-10-07, 14:37
Given a preference for Latin or black women would you recommend going to Oase and/or Palace or could any club in the NRW area be an alternative? I understand that some of the Latin crowd is on vacation now. Advice greatly appreciated. Stoneh
Hi stoneh,
by the time you go (2nd half of January), most of the Latin girls should be back from their Christmas holidays.
At Palace & Oase there is always a crowd of dominicanas, at least 6 or so. But as reported in the forum, Palace has had a lot of issues recently, plus price increase to 75 Euro, so I´d advise Oase over Palace right now. If you go to Oase, see if Gabriela (mulata from Venezuela) is around – she´s fantastic.
In NRW, Goldentime and Planet Happy Garden are near Düsseldorf. Planet Happy Garden has mostly Eastern Europeans, but Goldentime has more variety, several Latinas and also a couple of nice African girls there.
Personally I like the NRW clubs better – they are closer to where I live, atmosphere is nice plus they are cheaper overall (entry 50 €, one hour 75 €) than Frankfurt.
Have fun.
Felipe
Hessen Bub
01-10-07, 17:57
Given a preference for Latin or black women would you recommend going to Oase and/or Palace or could any club in the NRW area be an alternative?
Palace latinas to recommend:
Kathi, DomRep
Alice, DomRep
Stefanie, DomRep
Alessandra, Brasil
Maria, DomRep
Honey, DomRep
Lisa, Cuba
Karina, DomRep
Oase latinas/blacks to recommend:
Emanuelle, Gouadeloupe/France
Cindy, Ghana
Lynette, Nigeria
Gabriela, DomRep
Jacqueline, DomRep
That's just my list. I can't tell who'll be still on vacation, so good luck.
At my last visits before X-mas I found Oase rather empty. Maybe it has recovered by now or will recover until end of month.
Hessen Bub
Not trying to push a particular boat in the establishment rankings but in reading the contributions below the following struck me as one angle in weighing up the clubs.
Taking Bernd's, a small club, there does see to be general agreement ( yes - as well the facilities need a major "brush-up" in a Big way), that the say 12-15 girls at Bernd's every day provide nearly uniform very top level and consistent service.
Looking at other Club runners, what are the chances on any given night at the "Big clubs" with 50 + and up girls that there would be 12-15 girls on the job at those clubs who would reach or surpass the service levels of the Bernd's girls?
Just a thought.
Never forgetting in Racing vernacular that there are: "Horses for Courses".
Most of the Bernd's girls are long time stayers, and there is a bit of a team spirit there. I bet it's easier to manage 15 girls vs 50 (and have had experience to prove it too) and maintain a level of service.
Bernd's is a great day out, if it's not too busy (like on a Friday) then your guaranteed to leave happy. At the bigger venues the same applies, you just need to ask more questions.
C1
Most of the Bernd's girls are long time stayers, and there is a bit of a team spirit there. I bet it's easier to manage 15 girls vs 50 (and have had experience to prove it too) and maintain a level of service.
Bernd's is a great day out, if it's not too busy (like on a Friday) then your guaranteed to leave happy. At the bigger venues the same applies, you just need to ask more questions.
C1
...that have come and gone and many that are still around in better locations and with more upscale facilities. None have have been able to manage and maintain 15 (it's actually more like 20) girls vs. 50 with the same consistent high level of service and unique atmosphere. I'm just back (2 hours ago) from my monthly visit and it remains a place of worship...
I'm planning to visit Cocoon, Steffi's Waldsauna, Living Room, Oase and Bernd's this week + Beverly and maybe a party treff, and given that I'm probably not objective any more, I plan on posting on the relative comparision between them all.
Well my question still remains open: can members who frequent the "larger clubs" confirm that in any of them, on most and any night there are 12-15 or more performers in attendance that could match or better the service levels of the Bernd's?
Not looking to debate the issue just to seek clarification of the numbers at the larger clubs - for a start and example I can say that at Samya - not a large club in my opinion and in my visits, there wouldn't be anywhere near the number who would be providing the "usual" Bernd's service levels. Like to hear opinions on the Big Three as to quantity providing quality.
Hessen Bub
01-11-07, 15:33
Well my question still remains open: can members who frequent the "larger clubs" confirm that in any of them, on most and any night there are 12-15 or more performers in attendance that could match or better the service levels of the Bernd's?
In World, Oase and Palace there are for sure at least 15 performers that match or better the service level of the girls at Schieferhof. Especially if you lower your demands on looks to the Hof-level. I for example did not find more than 3 out of 12 or 15 girls at Schieferhof attractive.
Hessen Bub
Excess, you are probably right, there are at least 15 girls of the level of Bernd's in each of the Hessen 3 and GT. My best personal experiences are not in Bernd's but in the bigger clubs. If you have a good feeling in finding out those who will have a good chemistry with you, you are far better out in the bigger clubs. If not, go to Bernd's were the best service is guaranteed.
Thank you gentlemen.
So now all we have to work on is how to ensure that there is never more than 12-15 serious mongers at one time in any of these clubs (including ourselves of course). That way, we should be very well served indeed !
Look forward to your (un)objective report.
One issue is that a much more practised exponent like yourself can minimise the pit-falls vs a relative newbie, even if you read up here on what you "should" do.
In the heat of battle, we all wilt to some degree!
C1
12-15 excellent service providers? To me 3 or 4 on any given day is enough ;)
But, yes, I concur with Routard and Hessenbub. You can always find girls that give excellent service at the big three. It's not as sure a thing as at Bernd's, but this actually makes it a bit more fun to find the right one. And of course it also depends on your own attitude towards the girl ...
I also agree with Hessenbub that it would have been hard for me to call more than 3 girls attractive during my visit to the 'Hof. I was lucky in that there were not too many guys there when I visited; and so I had my pick. But if these three would have been booked, then I would have had to resort to a good wanking (no offense, WanKing, my honorable brother :D). I saw that the two seriously overweight ladies at the 'Hof were giving great couch service and were really into it, but as the German say ... "Das Auge isst mit."
euro
(who will take his chances with finding the right level of service at Oase on Saturday and at ColA on Sunday)
Stonehenge68
01-12-07, 19:09
Palace latinas to recommend:
Kathi, DomRep
Alice, DomRep
Stefanie, DomRep
Alessandra, Brasil
Maria, DomRep
Honey, DomRep
Lisa, Cuba
Karina, DomRep
Oase latinas/blacks to recommend:
Emanuelle, Gouadeloupe/France
Cindy, Ghana
Lynette, Nigeria
Gabriela, DomRep
Jacqueline, DomRep
That's just my list. I can't tell who'll be still on vacation, so good luck.
At my last visits before X-mas I found Oase rather empty. Maybe it has recovered by now or will recover until end of month.
Hessen BubThank's a lot Hessen Bub. I am glad to hear that there's a fairly large selection of latinas. I will go to Frankfurt so Oase and maybe Palace it is, and I will study your list. I will also try to follow the the general rule to really get a feal for the girl and to negotiate in detail before clsoing the deal, even if it's easier said than done while kissing and fondling.
Stonehenge68
01-12-07, 19:15
Hi stoneh,
by the time you go (2nd half of January), most of the Latin girls should be back from their Christmas holidays.
At Palace & Oase there is always a crowd of dominicanas, at least 6 or so. But as reported in the forum, Palace has had a lot of issues recently, plus price increase to 75 Euro, so I´d advise Oase over Palace right now. If you go to Oase, see if Gabriela (mulata from Venezuela) is around – she´s fantastic.
In NRW, Goldentime and Planet Happy Garden are near Düsseldorf. Planet Happy Garden has mostly Eastern Europeans, but Goldentime has more variety, several Latinas and also a couple of nice African girls there.
Personally I like the NRW clubs better – they are closer to where I live, atmosphere is nice plus they are cheaper overall (entry 50 €, one hour 75 €) than Frankfurt.
Have fun,
FelipeThank's Felipe, I will go to Oase this time and will try to talk to all "mulattas" in the club, hopefully I can catch her. Golden Time will for sure be on my to do list
Stone
Thanks mate, do share if u manage to find out.
This was a exchange of posts on the RF the other day concerning her whereabouts:
weiß denn vielleicht einer der verehrten Kollegen, wo Liliane aktuell anzutreffen ist
Erasmus, immer noch ein Fan von ihr
Im Augenblick ist sie, zumindest "beruflich" nirgendwo anzutreffen.
Gruss Henk
Fazit: According to Henk, she isn't to be found anywhere, at least professionally.
Another post mentioned that she is from the Ukraine and may be away for a pause.
Has anyone met her sister who works at GT? If they are anything at all similar genetically, she might be a good substitute.
For the record, in almost 2 years using my GPS and in excess of 5000 km to date, it has never steered me the wrong way. The only issue I have is the one I detailed below. Also, mine is a PDA rather than a dedicated unit, so I have all the pertinent addresses saved in a text file as well as PDA or JPG scans of all the maps I need as backups.
Fkk Lover or anyone who uses a pocket PC gps, can you guys tell me if the speaker on the back of the Pocket PC is loud enough to be able to hear the voice instruction (without using head phone) while driving??? That's my main concern. I found that sometimes it's very difficult to hear the voice command from the Pocket PC speaker as opposed to a car speaker or a portable stand alone GPS (like the Garmin Steet Pilot 2720 or the Tomtom Go 910). How loud can the speaker set to? Will you be able to hear the GPS voice command while your car windows are rolled down (during summer time)? Do you need to buy additional amplifier to magnify the pocket PC speaker voice? I probably wouldn't want to hook pocket PC output to the car's speaker because I may want to listen to the radio too. What type of pocket PC (with any accessories) would you recommend for loud speaker voice? Many thanks.
Investor,
I have a Garmin iQue5 and the internal speaker isn't loud enough for me to hear over most car noises. It came with a car power cord that has an integrated external speaker. The external speaker works fine.
I've used it Germany once with the Mapsource Europe v8 maps. It did a pretty good job, it typically got me within a few 100ft of where I wanted to go. Oase was the fartherest off, about 1/2 mile (it had the road but no addresses past the last house in town) but put me on the door step of Bernds.
Boomer10
Just back from a 4 day trip to Germany in which I managed to arrange all of my business meetings in NRW for the mornings to free up afternoons and evenings for mongering.
My plan: 1 club on Monday evening and then 2 clubs per day, Tues-Thurs, until my flight back to the U.S. on Fri. morning, mixing up some old and some new to get a fair indication of the state of mongering in Germany.
Of course, my selections reveal my preferences, but I also added 2 clubs that were new for me.
Tues: Cocoon, Beverly
Weds: Steffi's Waldsauna (previously Calligula), Bernd's
Thurs: Living Room, Oase
I had also planned to visit Dorsten or PT Colonia in Cologne but due to a late minute scheduling change arrived in NRW too late to make the drive to Dorsten and after I also had to make an unscheduled donation to the autobahn polizei for being too eager to get to pussy, I had to cut back on my PT plans.
Anyone following my posts knows that my favorite FKK clubs are Bernd's and Oase, and I have a special affinity for Beverly, and nothing on this trip has changed those feelings.
I went to Cocoon, because I haven't been in almost a year and it's a good place to spend the afternoon before a Beverly visit as it's about a 15 minute drive from Wuppertal to Burg. Steffi's, which I have never visited before made the list after a fellow monger told me at Bernd's that he had been there recently and was amazed by the selection of available women. Plus, it's really convenient to stop there on the way to Bernd's as it is only 5 minutes away.
Finally, I went to Living Room to check it out for my own database and for ISG's.
It may take a few days (there are alot of football games these next couple of days) but I'll post my Cocoon, LR and Steffi's reports on the Other FKK thread, and the Bernd's, Oase and Beverly posts in their appropriate threads.
Some general observations:
* In four out of the 6 clubs that I visited, I met mongers who have been reading our posts here, and have said that they learned from them and were affected by them. This community has become large but it would be good if many of those who read these posts of ours, and finally take the plunge, would also report and share with us their accumulated info. Don't be afraid to post- we were all newcomers here at one point. Additional posts add to the accuracy of the information here and help other to get over their shyness.
* There are just so many clubs and other options in Germany to engage in this hobby. There are clubs and activities for all tastes and preferences, and such a variety of venues and services offered that it's very difficult to pick just one or even a couple of clubs. Every one has to go with their own prior knowledge of what they've liked in the past, recommendations from people they trust, and some educated thrusts into new areas. It's an adventure and should feel like it.
* Unless you are regular at one of the clubs, and I assume that most of us on this board aren't as we live in other countries or continents, it is difficult to guarantee with any certainty a level or type of service, the extent of the comfort level in a club you will feel in a club on a particular visit or whether a particular visit on a given day will yield a positive experience. You can cut down on the variables that affect these by doing your HW, going to a club that offers the service level that you want or that you have previously felt comfortable in, by refining your methodology for picking the right SP for you, and by being flexible and going with the flow.
* We can argue on this board about whether a smaller club or larger club is better, NRW vs. Hessen, World vs. Oase, PT vs. FKK. While providing an interesting intellectual outlet for discussion, the argument is moot. There is no "best" club as an objective determination. Each of us have our own subjective criteria by which we judge and these are fallible and inexact and unscientific with our notoriously unreliable hormones playing an intrinsic part in our determination.
* I had great experiences in Beverly, Bernd's and Oase, a decent but not spectacular experience in Living Room, and a mediocre experience in Cocoon and Steffi's. It is not easier to manage a smaller club with 15-20 women than a larger club with 50-60. It's just different.
* Yes, you can find 15- 20 good SP in Oase or World, and you may be able to really hook with a girl and have the ultimate GF experience in Oase or World. The additional 30 -40 SP lower your odds of getting it. I like the odds at Bernd's better, and I don't agree with the Euro 100' s assertion that there are only 3 attractive women at Bernd's.
*Again, you can cut the chances of disapointment by doing your HW, and refining your method of choosing. If you go up to a girl with whom you have never spoken and have no rapport, and say let's go f*ck, that's exactly what she's going to do to you and don't expect a GFE out of it. At Oase on Thurs. night the place was packed, with no room to sit, there was no couch action at all and the girls were taking advantage of the guys' desperation, by doing quick sessions and turning over as much clientele as quickly as possible. With all of the women that I went with that night, I asked for time to talk to first, initiated couch action, and let them know, that if we worked out, it would be a long session only. Those who wanted to go to the zimmer within 3 minutes, were sent off to seek their fortunes and 50 Euro elsewhere.
Njoy.
Travelforfun
01-14-07, 13:40
Its is pity ...but thanks anyways mate.
Should have taken the plunge when i had the chance....a lesson learnt the hard way.
Just hope Nicole(BN) is still around in feb.
* Yes, you can find 15- 20 good SP in Oase or World, and you may be able to really hook with a girl and have the ultimate GF experience in Oase or World. The additional 30 -40 SP lower your odds of getting it. I like the odds at Bernd's better, and I don't agree with the Euro 100' s assertion that there are only 3 attractive women at Bernd's.
*Again, you can cut the chances of disapointment by doing your HW, and refining your method of choosing. If you go up to a girl with whom you have never spoken and have no rapport, and say let's go f*ck, that's exactly what she's going to do to you and don't expect a GFE out of it. At Oase on Thurs. night the place was packed, with no room to sit, there was no couch action at all and the girls were taking advantage of the guys' desperation, by doing quick sessions and turning over as much clientele as quickly as possible. With all of the women that I went with that night, I asked for time to talk to first, initiated couch action, and let them know, that if we worked out, it would be a long session only. Those who wanted to go to the zimmer within 3 minutes, were sent off to seek their fortunes and 50 Euro elsewhere.
Njoy.
On point number one, I agree wholeheartedly. There is too much filler at the larger clubs and they don't improve the odds of finding a good experience but rather reduce the chances.
I am referring to the numerous women who rate in the 5 and 6 range who are there because the club would look empty without them. A club may have 50 to 60 women but there just aren't enough 8s and 9s to go around. Management does not perform an edit and has to accept whoever will work there.
Setting aside Bernds, my next best example of a good edited selection is Wildenrath (at least as it was before they did the remodel). Small club with 15 or so girls but each one providing good services and a nice diverse selection of blondes, brunettes. A little of everything for everyone. A club where you can let your guard down and pick your Lebensabschnittgefaehrtin blindfolded and not have to worry about a) being ripped off, b) being offered substandard services.
As I've written before: don't jump at the first woman you find attractive. Listen and observe. And if you can, have a conversation first to see if there is any chemistry. From reading other posts here I am probably more communication-oriented than the average poster.
If I can't understand her and she can't understand me, her chances of delivering a "lustlos" experience are higher than if we have something to talk about, she has an interesting personality and a sense of humor.
I take notes of my sessions for when I write my reports and when I go over my earlier experiences, some of them were nothing more than "assisted masturbation" because I wasn't so much focused on our interaction.
Penetrating a lifeless lump of flesh is, for all intents and purposes, "assisted masturbation". When the interaction is more of a dialogue and she actively participates, then it becomes more like real sex.
You go down on her, she really gets into it and thrusts her pussy into your face as she comes. You penetrate her and she doesn't go into a fake moaning mode but really moves with you. And all this while she is telling you what pleases her and she is actually pleased she is stimulating you so much.
To some folks a GFE consists of a string of abbreviations: DATY, BBBJTC, etc..
I'm more into the previously suggested abbreviation: OOBA "Out Of Bedroom Activity". Sure the stuff she does in the room matters but its the extended pre-coital and post-coital stuff which distinguishes the good providers from the mind-blowing kind.
But in the end each one has to decide for himself and as I've written several times, the fact that some folks think the Hessen 3 is the cat's meow is just terrific. And if some folks are really content with "assisted masturbation", that is just great too.
Its is pity ...but thanks anyways mate.
Should have taken the plunge when i had the chance....a lesson learnt the hard way.
Just hope Nicole(BN) is still around in feb.
Put her on the list of the "ones who got away".
There are several women on my version of this list, number one being Nina from Babylon.
I'm getting in line with you to see Nicole...!
Do you know on what day in Feb you will be there?
I'm more into the previously suggested abbreviation: OOBA "Out Of Bedroom Activity". Sure the stuff she does in the room matters but its the extended pre-coital and post-coital stuff which distinguishes the good providers from the mind-blowing kind.
...defined as "Out of Bedroom Attitude". I agree - it's the pre and post-coital service which sets them apart.
Travelforfun
01-15-07, 08:54
Put her on the list of the "ones who got away".
There are several women on my version of this list, number one being Nina from Babylon.
I'm getting in line with you to see Nicole...!
Do you know on what day in Feb you will be there?
Hey Jayco
Just created my list buddy...liljana my first on the list.
Somehow u always remember the one's u never scored with more distinctly ...lets start a new discussion with this man,everyone post their list of
"ones who got away" , lets see how many of us have been chasing the same girls ;)
I'll be reaching on the 14th feb , as soon as i get past the immigration i should be heading straight for BN without wasting a min so if u r there the same day would be nice to toss up for her , damn wouldn't the girl get flattered seein men tossin up to go with her ..hehe
I'll be reaching on the 14th feb , as soon as i get past the immigration i should be heading straight for BN without wasting a min so if u r there the same day would be nice to toss up for her , damn wouldn't the girl get flattered seein men tossin up to go with her ..hehe
Hey SK,
Timing is everything! Too bad...
Make sure you leave some for me!
Travelforfun
01-16-07, 16:08
http://www.fkk-girls-labyrinth.com/cindy2.htm
Anyone got more info bout this club , they seem to have a great selection.
For a price of $130 all inclusive sounds like a great deal as well
Hessen Bub
01-16-07, 18:58
http://www.fkk-girls-labyrinth.com/cindy2.htm
Reports and friends say it is not worth the money. For 130 EUR you can fuck as often as you want to, but only once with each girl. Selection didn't match the homepage.
Hessen Bub
Reports and friends say it is not worth the money. For 130 EUR you can fuck as often as you want to, but only once with each girl. Selection didn't match the homepage.
Hessen Bub
.. but there is only a limited selection of such clubs in that part of the country.
Its not anything like the "F all you want" PTs further north.
I've been reading through as many reports as I possibly can, doing my homework, and preparing for my upcoming trip to the Frankfurt area. I will be without a car so location is everything in my planning.
I'm sure many of the Master Mongers are already aware of this, but I found that Google Earth has a "Local Search" feature. Just center the image over the area you want to search, and then type in what you are looking for. I typed in "FKK", "Partytreff" etc and wouldn't you know, they show where each of these fine establishments can be found on the map and many, even most of them have websites linked to them. Add in the layer with public transportation and you're off.
Thanks in advance for all the guidance you've given me on the board. I'll hopefully have nothing but positive reviews when I get back.
Of course if anyone has any last minute suggestions for "Doing" the Frankfurt scene by S-Bahn feel free to give me a hand. I do speak passable German and am comfortable with the train system.
Travelforfun
01-17-07, 16:03
Thanks for the honest input guys...u certainly saved me $130 + transportation and my very precious mongering time in germany...think i'll stick to my ol fav's
BN and Labedo.
Of course if anyone has any last minute suggestions for "Doing" the Frankfurt scene by S-Bahn feel free to give me a hand. I do speak passable German and am comfortable with the train system.
By the Frankfurt scene I suppose you are talking about the Hessen 3.
Palace is in the city so no problem with public transport access there.
Getting Oase via S-bahn means getting to Bad Homburg and then taking a cab to Burgholzhausen (or BHH as the Roemer refer to it - BH, by the way, is short for Bustenhalter or brassiere).
Getting to World is either a train to Giessen and then a cab or if you have more patience, connecting to a train to Garbenteich and then taking a cab. World is in Pohlheim-Garbenteich.
On The Road
01-18-07, 22:05
Just a quick information.
I was able to find here on the forum, and on the net, many GoogleEarth files with FKKs map all around Germany, and it was really useful.
Unluckly I'm unable to find any TomTom POI files, that I should consider quite more useful.
Any suggestion on how to find such a file?
Thanks.
Just finished posting my 7th and final report from my trip last week to NRW and Oase in which I visited 6 clubs in 3 days. I am pleased to report fellow monger congress members that the state of mongering in 2007 is sound and sublime.
Here are the reports:
1) "Something Old and Something New": http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=550933&postcount=1931
2)"Day 1: Tues afternoon at Cocoon ":http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=551263&postcount=1379
3)"Day 1: Tues night at Beverly": http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=551648&postcount=1167
4)"2nd day: Weds afternoon at Steffi's Waldsauna": http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=551665&postcount=1387
5) "2nd day: Weds. afternoon and night at the Hof": http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=552010&postcount=324
6) "Stormy afternoon in the Living Room": http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=552413&postcount=1393
7) "Braving the Mongering Hordes at Oase": http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=552771&postcount=1241
Total Mongering Costs:
Cocoon - 170 Euro
Beverly- 70 Euro (what an unbelievable bargain)
Steffi's - 100 Euro
Bernd's - 295 Euro
Living Room - 150 Euro
Oase - 365 Euro
Autobahn polizei - 300 Euro
Worth every euro cent!
Njoy
isseu,
autobahn polizei? 300 euros? that's the equivalent of a day at bernds, ouch! and i thought they don't have speed limits on the autobahn?
btw, thanks for all the reports.
cheers,
ww
Just a quick information.
I was able to find here on the forum, and on the net, many GoogleEarth files with FKKs map all around Germany, and it was really useful.
Unluckly I'm unable to find any TomTom POI files, that I should consider quite more useful.
Any suggestion on how to find such a file?
Thanks.
You find it here, with Gandjim's courtesy :
http://www.youppie.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1278
The Tom Tom POI file has 500 clubs over Europe, from Spain till Russia, including the German FKK.
Thanks very much for the diligent reporting. Loved your description of the orgy at Bernd's. :-)
isseu,
autobahn polizei? 300 euros? that's the equivalent of a day at bernds, ouch! and i thought they don't have speed limits on the autobahn?
btw, thanks for all the reports.
cheers,
ww
... has speedlimits on certain sections.
isseu,
autobahn polizei? 300 euros? that's the equivalent of a day at bernds, ouch! and i thought they don't have speed limits on the autobahn?
btw, thanks for all the reports.
cheers,
ww
yes they do, on certain segments. you have to pay attention to the signage on long downhill sections, icy area, curvy sections and of course construction areas. the best is to keep pace with the local traffic- they know the area with limits.
it's my fault because i should know all of this, but i was so engrossed in anticipation that i lost concentration and they caught me doing 150 in a 100 km section.
if you do not have a permanent address in germany they make you pay on the spot. knowing this, i quickly transferred all of my cash except for 320 euro out of my wallet. the actual fine that they wanted to collect was 400 euro, but they took the 300 as "that was all that i had" and left me with 20.
to punish myself, i didn't go to one additional club that i had planned on. guess it was my time to share the expenses for all of my autobahn usage.
On The Road
01-20-07, 04:42
You find it here, with Gandjim's courtesy :
http://www.youppie.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1278
The Tom Tom POI file has 500 clubs over Europe, from Spain till Russia, including the German FKK.
Thanks a lot, Routard... just downloaded. They are going to be really usefull.
yes they do, on certain segments. you have to pay attention to the signage on long downhill sections, icy area, curvy sections and of course construction areas. the best is to keep pace with the local traffic- they know the area with limits.
it's my fault because i should know all of this, but i was so engrossed in anticipation that i lost concentration and they caught me doing 150 in a 100 km section.
if you do not have a permanent address in germany they make you pay on the spot. knowing this, i quickly transferred all of my cash except for 320 euro out of my wallet. the actual fine that they wanted to collect was 400 euro, but they took the 300 as "that was all that i had" and left me with 20.
to punish myself, i didn't go to one additional club that i had planned on. guess it was my time to share the expenses for all of my autobahn usage.
90 in a 60 mph section! you got off easy. in the states you could have been charged with reckless driving, had your license suspended, and be fined $1000 in some counties. on my last trips i managed to get 3 local speeding violations (15e each) and two parking tickets at about 50e each. so, i sympathize. it seems like the parking enforcement has gotten much worse in the eu. must be a way to raise money without raising taxes. in the past, you could count on lax parking enforcement.
There is a new law that is effective on January 2007. Cars are now required to be properly equiped in winter weather or you could get a ticket. This means snow tires, working lights and wipers, and fluids in the washer bottles. The rental companies have used this excuse to add a 4-5E surchage per day. I was charged an extra 16E for 4 days even though the car did not appear to be equiped with snow tires. :(
I believe the more well known rental companies always have put winter tires on their cars. I usually use Europcar, and had a discussion in the garage last November. The garage technician told me they always put winter tires on all their cars during winter season. No extra charge for that. I have seen on the web-site that you can book winter tires at an extra 4 Euros per day, but this is obviously not necessary since the cars already are equiped with it.
And good tires seems to be necessary equipment these last days...
I believe the more well known rental companies always have put winter tires on their cars. I usually use Europcar, and had a discussion in the garage last November. The garage technician told me they always put winter tires on all their cars during winter season. No extra charge for that. I have seen on the web-site that you can book winter tires at an extra 4 Euros per day, but this is obviously not necessary since the cars already are equiped with it.
And good tires seems to be necessary equipment these last days...
Not sure how it is now, but last winter Europcar was indeed charging and extra fee for a car with winter tires.
Cheers,
Dedalus
not sure how it is now, but last winter europcar was indeed charging and extra fee for a car with winter tires.
cheers,
dedalus
your auto insurance is actually lower with winter tires than it is with normal tires so there is a financial incentive to switch over too (aside from the additional safety factor).
one thing which they pay more attention to in europe that we don't here on this side of the pond is the tire's speed rating.
we just don't drive very fast here so it doesn't matter quite as much.
in germany, on the other hand, there are cars on the autobahn driving on the left lane which are driving at twice the speed of the cars driving on the right lane. those cars in the left lane aren't just using normal speed tires but tires which are made to run at 240 kph for hours on end.
the us market is porsche's largest market for its cars. those cars don't drive anywhere near their limits or potential here. seems like such a waste.
Your auto insurance is actually lower with winter tires than it is with normal tires so there is a financial incentive to switch over too (aside from the additional safety factor).
Maybe (I am assuming that you mean rental car insurance, for my insurance is the same whether I am using winter, summer, all-weather or bald eagles), but when you rent from Europcar, the insurance is usually included and the fee for the winter tires is still approximately 10 EUR per day. Using that option won't get you a cut rate on the insurance.
This is relatively new, for only a few years ago, if you rented a car from Europcar in winter time, then the car would come with M+S tires.
Times change...
Cheers,
Dedalus
in case anyone was curious as to what kabinensex is about, here is a wikipedia description. this is a wiener phenomena kind of in the same way that sexkinos are a berliner phenomena.
kabinensex bezeichnet eine variante weiblicher prostitution in wien für schnelle und kostengünstige sexuelle befriedigung.
zum unterschied von traditionellen bordellen sind die angebotenen lokalitäten weder mit bereitstehendem personal noch barservice verbunden. von einem vorraum aus führen meist mehrere türen in kleine kabinen. im einfachsten fall sind es ein mit wenig aufwand und geringem gestaltungswillen aus einigen pressspanplatten zusammengebastelter raum im raum. in der vorderwand befindet sich ein groszügig ausgeschnittenes loch in genitalhöhe, das an glory holes erinnert. in gesichtshöhe gibt eine ausnehmung den blick frei auf einen fernseher, in denen pornovideos gezeigt werden.
die anonymität ursprünglicher glory holes reduziert sich auf die symbolische trennwand zwischen prostituierter und freier, zwischen denen es zu offener absprache des preises kommt, der je nach angebotenen diensten variiert. meist beschränkt sich das angebot auf manuelle oder orale befriedigung und stellt eine preisgünstige variante zu professionellen diensten in einem bordell dar. im jahre 2005 wurden dumping-preise ab 15 € gesichtet.[1]
als kabinensex in weiterem sinne wird manchmal auch der dienst mancher peepshows bezeichnet, die einzelkabinen anbieten, in denen der besucher durch eine glasscheibe getrennt mit tänzerinnen der peepshow in kontakt treten kann. die kabine kann zu einer einzelvorstellung genutzt werden, meist wird aber nach preisabsprache die trennwand entfernt, wobei der kunde sich zur prostituierten in die kabine begibt. in vielen peepshows werden neben manueller und oraler befriedigung auch geschlechtsverkehr angeboten.
i'll do more of a translation later but it basically talks about the set up of the cabins with holes so you can have limited contact with the sp.
what is interesting is the sentence which says that pricing starts at 15 euros (a dumping price, it says).
Maybe (I am assuming that you mean rental car insurance, for my insurance is the same whether I am using winter, summer, all-weather or bald eagles), but when you rent from Europcar, the insurance is usually included and the fee for the winter tires is still approximately 10 EUR per day. Using that option won't get you a cut rate on the insurance.
Dedalus
.. by friends in Koeln that their personal (not rental) auto insurance is lower if they do the tire switch thing.
Could it be its only an NRW thing? Or could it specific to their auto insurance company?
Hessen Bub
01-20-07, 19:49
Could it be its only an NRW thing? Or could it specific to their auto insurance company?
Could be, their's a lot of such rebates: if you park your car in a garage, if only you and your partner drive the car, if you drive less than xxx kms per year and so on.
Rental cars in Germany come without winter tires. You have to pay extra, and they have to be available. If you are involved in an accident with summer tires, you could be fined although you did not cause it. German law ...
Hessen Bub
Greetings everyone,
Would somebody please enlighten me as to the difference between an FKK and a Partytreff?
In addition, should these apparently different types of operations be seperated in different foums?
Also, I've received several suggestions that I apppend the city locations to every FKK and Partytreff listing. Sure, no problem, just tell me where they are and I'll make the changes.
Thanks,
Jackson
Greetings again,
Just to be clear here, I understand that the following FKKs have similar names but are indeed three seperate facilities in three seperate locations, correct?
FKK Atlantik - Hanau
FKK Atlantis - location unknown
FKK Atlantica - Wuppertal
Thanks,
Jackson
Hi Jackson,
Find hereafter list of all clubs that have their own thread with location indication as well as type of club (sauna, FKK or partytreff). Basically, difference between FKK and Sauna is dressing code (girls are naked in FKK and lingerie in Sauna). And difference between FKK/Sauna and Partytreff is pricing (in FKK you pay fixed amount for entrance plus amount depending time spend with girl(s) while partytreff is all-inclusive, entrance include sex as much as you want). It's OK to leave the partytreff, FKK and Sauna in the same "German FKK" thread, but it could be renamed to "German FKK/Sauna and Partytreff". I guess the list answers also your question about Atlantis/Atlantica/Atlantik.
FKK Atlantica-Wuppertal
FKK Atlantik-Hanau
FKK Atlantis-Altenstadt (closed)
FKK Artemis-Berlin (claims to be FKK but is sauna, whatever, who cares?)
FKK Babylon-Elsdorf
FKK Bernd’s Schieferhof-Hennef
FKK Blue Note-Dusseldorf
FKK Club 214 Saarbrucken
FKK Cocoon-Wuppertal
FKK Colosseum-Augsburg
FKK Dolce Vitta-Dusseldorf
FKK F35-Frankfurt
FKK Fantasyland-Gorgeshausen (closed)
FKK Finca Erotica-Dierdorf
FKK Flamingo Island-Ettlingen
FKK Freudenberg 39-Bochum
FKK Heavensgate-Dorsten
FKK Lancelot-Offenburg
FKK Malibu-Nidderau
FKK Oase-Burgholzhausen
FKK Palace-Frankfurt
FKK Pascha-Villingen
FKK Sudbad-Koln
FKK Sylt-Nurnberg
FKK Wiago-Leverkussen
FKK World-Pohlheim
Sauna-Parksauna-Wildenrath
Sauna Goldentime-Bruggen
Sauna Living Room-Kaarst
Sauna Mediteran-Longerich (ex FKK Mondial)
Sauna Planet Happy Garden-Tonisvorst
Sauna Samya-Koln
Partytreff Dorsten-Wulfen
Partytreff Osnabruck-Osnabruck
Swingers Club Beverly Solingen
Eros-Na-und (Not a FKK, Sauna, Partytreff or swingers club and unknown)
Haus Fellbach (unknown)
You shoud pay a visit to the FKK scene, we would be honoured to be your guide.
Greetings
Routard
Too Cool #2
01-26-07, 15:29
Hi,
I am not familiar with Germany other than the Frankfurt area. Any reccomendation for the Studgard-Ulm area?
Thanks
I first visited an FKK, the legendary Atlantis, in late 2002. My preparation for the trip up from Frankfurt Airport included printing out maps and directions. I arrived at around 3PM, and felt confident that I could get there in my rental car within an hour, even though it didn't have a GPS navigation system.
It didn't take long at all for me to take a wrong turn, and consequently, maps and directions were of almost no value. Since this was mid-winter, the wan daylight soon turned to darkness, which made navigation even more difficult. About 3 hours after leaving FRA, I managed to stagger into Atlantis. The time spent driving could certainly have been better spent at their incredible facility.
Since then, I've gone to Germany several times, always taking care to reserve a car with GPS navigation system included. These are often available only on the more expensive cars, but I've had good luck in getting these systems with Sixt.
On several recent FKK trips, I rented cars from Alamo, reserving a GPS at the time of reservation. For the first rental, they provided a portable TomTom navigation system, which worked fine. When I went to pick up the vehicle for the second Alamo rental, however, I was advised that there were no vehicles available with a GPS, and to separate TomTom units for rent either.
Fortunately, I had maps and directions printed as a sort of back-up plan, in case a navigation unit wasn't available, or if it was inoperable. The back-up plan included on other item: A hand-held Garmin Etrex GPS unit. These are commonly available in the US for about $75 on ebay.
It's very easy to program this unit with the latitude/longitude information of various FKKs of interest, using the coordinates provided by Timber Tree in his excellent post #1382, dated 3-14-06.
It was nearly dark when I arrived in FRA, but I was able to follow the printed directions and maps well enough to get into the general vicinity of a target FKK. Once I got within a few km of the FKK, the Garmin unit was very helpful in guiding me the rest of the way in. Since the Garmin doesn't provide street names or maps, it sometimes takes a bit of ingenuity to find the right path to reach the target, but it's certainly better than aimlessly driving in circles.
Another suggestion: Upon arriving at the airport, it may be handy to set a waypoint of the airport's location. Then if you end up staying in a strange hotel in the hinterlands, you can at least get an indication of what direction the airport is in, and head that way until you reach an autobahn that has the friendly picture of an airplane on it.
Hi Jackson,
Basically, difference between FKK and Sauna is dressing code (girls are naked in FKK and lingerie in Sauna). And difference between FKK/Sauna and Partytreff is pricing
Routard
May I add a small details: only a few FKK would accept occasionally some public action.
If a Partytreff has private rooms, it will be referred as "all inclusive" FKK in the german forums.
Jimmy Smits
01-27-07, 02:21
How can I obtain some when I arrive in Frankfurt?
Hi,
I am not familiar with Germany other than the Frankfurt area. Any reccomendation for the Studgard-Ulm area?
Thanks
I think you mean Stuttgart.
Good luck looking for one there. I read posts about one in Sindelfingen and they were not good.
My prediction: you're not getting any on this trip.
If you are involved in an accident with summer tires, you could be fined although you did not cause it. German law ...
Hessen Bub
.. from Stuttgart.
He says you are required (its a Vorschrift) to change over from all weather to Winterreifen. And he does say that if you have an accident in the winter and you don't have Winterreifen, the accident is automatically your fault.
Its been pointed out to me that my trip starts the day before Mardi Gras...was wondering how it might effect a club like Goldentime or PHG?
How can I obtain some when I arrive in Frankfurt?
... a prescription.
I am travelling to Frankfurt and NW next week for my first adventure. I do not speak German. Is there a thread (I cannot find one) that has useful German phrases and there English equivalent?
I am travelling to Frankfurt and NW next week for my first adventure. I do not speak German. Is there a thread (I cannot find one) that has useful German phrases and there English equivalent?
Good question but you will need to know more than German to truly connect with the women.
Polish, Russian, Turkish and Rumanian will take you a really long way.
A knowledge of German is necessary to deal with a) German women, b) club management, c) travel arrangements, d) the general institutional framework for these clubs.
If you have a fetish for German women like I do then akzentloses fehlerfreies Hoch Deutsch is absolutely necessary.
.. from Stuttgart.
He says you are required (its a Vorschrift) to change over from all weather to Winterreifen. And he does say that if you have an accident in the winter and you don't have Winterreifen, the accident is automatically your fault.Jackyo is absolutely right, German law states that the driver is responsible for having the appropriate type of tyres to match the weather conditions. Something to bear in when you hire a car in Germany is that you may not automatically get winter tyres fitted on the vehcile.
If you are involved in a RTA in Germany and you do have the correct tyres you are truely fucked (and I do not mean the pleasent way)!
Have fun and be safe.
If you have a fetish for German women like I do then akzentloses fehlerfreies Hoch Deutsch is absolutely necessary.
I respectfully beg to disagree. Most German girls speak at least some English. And I have met many German providers whose English is excellent.
So a table of German phrases will not help at all. But you can still get outstanding experiences chatting with many of the girls in English.
But I, for one, do not go to the FKKs for good conversation ... I go there for the food ;)
Doctor_Skank
01-29-07, 16:13
I am travelling to Frankfurt and NW next week for my first adventure. I do not speak German. Is there a thread (I cannot find one) that has useful German phrases and there English equivalent?
The Germans tend to speak better English than the EE girls in my experience, although I usually end up speaking German to them. I also don't think you can speak to all or even most girls in English, at least not a conversation of any depth. On more than one occassion I've seen guys referred from one girl to another in search of an English speaker. Nonetheless, I doubt the amount of German you can learn with a few lessons is going to be better than the basic English some of them possess... but there is no harm in trying. It might at least make you feel more comfortable in approaching them.
By the way, I am not one of those that think all FKK girls are so smart and cultured. Nice they are, but most of them are pretty average intelligence-wise at best.
I respectfully beg to disagree. Most German girls speak at least some English. And I have met many German providers whose English is excellent.
So a table of German phrases will not help at all. But you can still get outstanding experiences chatting with many of the girls in English.
But I, for one, do not go to the FKKs for good conversation ... I go there for the food ;)
... pretty well with German women in English. I have never tried though.
I have an investment in the German language going back over thirty years and part of a club visit is an extension of "Land und Leute kennenlernen".
In real life I have had a series of German girlfriends (this was before ever discovering these clubs).
I never speak English at a club unless she insists that I do. I am admittedly not typical.
By the way, I am not one of those that think all FKK girls are so smart and cultured. Nice they are, but most of them are pretty average intelligence-wise at best.
The average intelligence level at a club is indeed just that: average.
It is part of my fantasy though to come across a really smart chick who I can spar with verbally in German and who does nasty things in bed: kind of the girl next door but one who is adventurous and comfortable with her sexuality.
The object of my pursuit is a "talented amateur" who doesn't hold back and really enjoys her work, someone who I have the sense of making a connection with.
Most of all, a sense of humor is essential.
Some women and clients take this whole thing way too seriously. They never smile nor laugh. Its sex, for Chrissakes, not a funeral!
The ambiance at some of those Red Carpet Clubs is at the extreme of the grimness scale. Everyone sits in their corner of the couches and no one talks. The large impersonal clubs aren't much better, IMHO. This is why I like a club like Bernds where there is a lot of good natured banter between the women, the clients and the Thekenpersonnel.
Problem with EE women is that I can get the basic physical act done with them but we are sometimes not really communicating at all because of the language barrier.
I personally find non-communication a drag.
The average intelligence level at a club is indeed just that: average.
It is part of my fantasy though to come across a really smart chick who I can spar with verbally in German and who does nasty things in bed: kind of the girl next door but one who is adventurous and comfortable with her sexuality.
The object of my pursuit is a "talented amateur" who doesn't hold back and really enjoys her work, someone who I have the sense of making a connection with.
Most of all, a sense of humor is essential.
Some women and clients take this whole thing way too seriously. They never smile nor laugh. Its sex, for Chrissakes, not a funeral!
The ambiance at some of those Red Carpet Clubs is at the extreme of the grimness scale. Everyone sits in their corner of the couches and no one talks. The large impersonal clubs aren't much better, IMHO. This is why I like a club like Bernds where there is a lot of good natured banter between the women, the clients and the Thekenpersonnel.
Problem with EE women is that I can get the basic physical act done with them but we are sometimes not really communicating at all because of the language barrier.
I personally find non-communication a drag.
I hit one of those girls you seek a year or so ago at World. She was German, had a masters degree, a real outside job. She told me she only worked at the club on weekends to make a bit extra and that she enjoyed it. It was a very good session as you might imagine. I think her story was real, but then you never really know for sure.
Some women and clients take this whole thing way too seriously. They never smile nor laugh. Its sex, for Chrissakes, not a funeral!
Very true Jackyo,
but Ive met both new girls and new guys who dont smile cos they are very nervous. Suppose any girl would get nervous with the thought of my big face buried in her ass:D
I hit one of those girls you seek a year or so ago at World. She was German, had a masters degree, a real outside job. She told me she only worked at the club on weekends to make a bit extra and that she enjoyed it. It was a very good session as you might imagine. I think her story was real, but then you never really know for sure.
... I need to meet!
Banging one of those peasant EE women who would otherwise be threshing wheat, milking a goat or churning butter is not as interesting.
As Marlow has previously speculated, the next time you are standing at a street corner and one of those solidly built older women with a bandana covering her hair walks by muttering to herself you should ask yourself if this is what becomes of the women we meet at these clubs forty years down the road.
Very true Jackyo,
but Ive met both new girls and new guys who dont smile cos they are very nervous. Suppose any girl would get nervous with the thought of big face buried in her ass:D
... to Babylon.
One of the girls, Sandra (German and Gypsy, she said, red hair, nice figure) had fun with the clients by discretely spraying us (me included) with a water pistol.
You'd be sitting on the couch and you'd feel this spray of water seemingly come out of nowhere.
Once you figured out where it was coming from you couldn't help but laugh.
Those of us who'd been there a while would also get a laugh at the new clients who would have this perplexed look on their faces.
Sandra was funny and great in bed too. Just the perfect combination of sexiness and a sense of humor.
I'm really sorry to see that this club has totally lost its way since.
If you have a fetish for German women like I do then akzentloses fehlerfreies Hoch Deutsch is absolutely necessary.
Lieber Jackyo,
Sowas ist nicht immer den Fall. I get by quite well in and out of the clubs by having a bit of accent. Ladies are often surprised that I can speak "zi Deutsch", etwas fehlerfrei, aber mit einem leichten Akzent.
Try screwing up an "R" or throwing in an incorrect article here and there. Works wonders ;-)))
Gruß,
Dedalus
It is part of my fantasy though to come across a really smart chick who I can spar with verbally in German and who does nasty things in bed: kind of the girl next door but one who is adventurous and comfortable with her sexuality.
One of these days I will have to drop a name or two on you. They may not be rocket scientists, but I have met a few that are quite intelligent. Also quite a few of the Russian girls are very bright, well read and intelligent.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Lieber Jackyo,
Sowas ist nicht immer den Fall. I get by quite well in and out of the clubs by having a bit of accent. Ladies are often surprised that I can speak "zi Deutsch", etwas fehlerfrei, aber mit einem leichten Akzent.
Try screwing up an "R" or throwing in an incorrect article here and there. Works wonders ;-)))
Gruß,
Dedalus
... that I have a bit of an accent myself but they usually can't place it.
Friends of mine from Bayern think I have a northern accent but if they are from Hannover, they think I have a light southern accent.
The sexiest German accent IMHO is the one spoken by women from Vienna. I can't get enough of it.
The other side of the coin on this language thing is that it can happen that you are refused service because the woman doesn't want to deal with not understanding you.
They usually will try to find a way to make money off you if they can so it rarely happens.
But it can happen and does happen.
It happened to the Breadman at our visit to Heavensgate in May last year. I'll leave it to him to describe it.
Again, the only club I've ever been refused service at is PHG. It happened twice to me there hence my non-endorsement of that club.
One of these days I will have to drop a name or two on you. They may not be rocket scientists, but I have met a few that are quite intelligent. Also quite a few of the Russian girls are very bright, well read and intelligent.
Cheers,
Dedalus
We should exchange notes some time!
It would, indeed, be a treat to meet intelligent life forms once in a while instead of the wandering peasant girls who find their way to these clubs.
I may be the only one but I rate women on intelligence and personality as much as how they look and how they perform in bed.
Really intelligent women are a challenge.
It would, indeed, be a treat to meet intelligent life forms once in a while instead of the wandering peasant girls who find their way to these clubs.
PT Dorsten = all peasant girls..
And these dumb little peasent girls are the ones fleecing us out of our money. Guess intelligence is somewhat a matter of definition ;-)
Chivaz
And these dumb little peasent girls are the ones fleecing us out of our money. Guess intelligence is somewhat a matter of definition ;-)
Chivaz
Some of them are actually very street smart and can survive anywhere on the planet. Don't underestimate them.
It takes guts to work far away from home and family screwing strange dudes, some of whom are not always very nice. Its difficult work and as I've always said: treat them nicely and with respect.
These women can be fun too... its just a different level of fun compared to her more educated sisters.
What does FKK mean? I am at Frankfurt Airport a lot travling to West Africa.
Any action around the airport? I know nothing about Germany.
Thanks
What does FKK mean?
I know nothing about Germany.
Yes, it seems so...
check the FKK FAQ:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2601
This is a conversation that leads nowhere, but I'll contribute anyway.
You don't need an intelligent woman to have an intelligent conversation. IMO a moron can have an intelligent conversation with another moron.
That said, if the criterion for intelligence is being versed in Dostojevskij or Goethe, I bet these women can be found. Criteria street smart and able to earn a lot of money. Low odds on that one...
Goodtime Man
02-01-07, 16:14
Having just spent a couple of days at the Palace and having the convenience of Fleming's Hotel literally immediately adjacent, I would like to ask the following:
Could somebody list the other FKK clubs that are easily reachable via taxi and/or public transport and have decent hotel facilities in the immediate vicinity (an easy walk).
Or is the Palace unique in being so close to a major international airport (20 E taxi trip), tram station (100 yards) and a 4 star hotel (spittin' distance!)?
Warsteiner
02-01-07, 20:39
Having just spent a couple of days at the Palace and having the convenience of Fleming's Hotel literally immediately adjacent, I would like to ask the following:
Could somebody list the other FKK clubs that are easily reachable via taxi and/or public transport and have decent hotel facilities in the immediate vicinity (an easy walk).
Or is the Palace unique in being so close to a major international airport (20 E taxi trip), tram station (100 yards) and a 4 star hotel (spittin' distance!)?
I'm sure there are more but:
Holiday Inn Duesseldorf North - 15 mins walk from BN and LaBedo
Any hotel near the centre of Cologne - 20 mins with the tram to Samya
http://www.saunaclub177.de/ in Bielefeld.
... with bated breath for the results of the Rheinische Blaskoenigin survey for 2006.
This is taken from the RF (not the Roemer version but the Rhein version).
Jupp69 wrote this summary of results.
[Hinweis] Ergebnisse der Wahl - "Rheinische Blaskönigin" 2006
Die Wahlen 2006 sind vorbei!
Und auch bei dieser Wahl gab’s gegenüber dem Vorjahr wieder eine deutliche Steigerung, sowohl was die Zahl der teilnehmenden Forumler (94 gegenüber 61 im Vorjahr) als auch die Zahl der mit Stimmen bedachten Mädels (164 gegenüber 116 im Vorjahr) angeht.
164 Mädels, die von 94 FK mit Stimmen bedacht wurden, belegen eindrucksvoll, was auch immer wieder in den Berichten zum Ausdruck kommt, jeder hat so seine persönliche Vorstellung von einem perfekten Erlebnis - und das ist gut so!!!
Die ersten 10 Platzierungen:
1. Platz Cora, Hürth, www.co-ra.net, 30 Punkte
2. Platz Tanja, Schieferhof, www.bernds-sauna-club.de , 21 Punkte
3. Platz Janice, TP, www.traumparadies.com , 18 Punkte
4. Platz Niki, Köln-Kalk, www.myniki.de , 17 Punkte
4. Platz Mada, GT, LR, www.goldentime.de / www.fkk-livingroom.de 17 Punkte
6. Platz Marina, BlueNote, www.saunabluenote.de , 16 Punkte
7. Platz Josi, Samya, www.samya.de, 15 Punkte
8. Platz Gyna, TP, www.traumparadies.com , 14 Punkte
8. Platz Vivian, Samya, www.samya.de , 14 Punkte
10. Platz Liliane, EX-Wiago, 12 Punkte
10. Platz Monique, BlueNote, www.saunabluenote.de ,12 Punkte
10. Platz Sylvia, PT Mettmann, www.partytreff-mettmann.de , 12 Punkte
...
Gemäß der Tradition unseres Forums werde ich die Urkunden der 3 Erstplatzierten am Wochenende fertigstellen und auf den Weg bringen.
jupp69
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der ein großes Herz für die Mädels hat!
Fazit: 94 dudes voted this year versus 61 last year. 164 women were nominated this year versus 116 last year. The rest of the list probably doesn't need a translation.
Goodtime Man,
Artemis in Berlin would also be close to an airport, easy to get to and close to hotels. Those two would be the only mega-clubs that I can think of that fulfill that. The in town Düsseldorf places like Bluenote Dolce Vita and the like might be similar, but they are more in the 5-12 girl category. If you fly in and rent a car, Living Room, GT, PHG are all near the Düsseldorf Airport and hotels nearby, and Bernds has a hotel nearby alhough it is in the middle of nowhere.
If you happen to fly into Nurnberg for any reason (it is a mini airport though) Sylt is about a 5€ taxiride from the airport, and you could probably walk it in 10 minutes, an there is porbably a motel nearby.
FKK 125 in Hamburg is also close to the airport, but only 5-10 girls there, and there are some decent hotels nearby as the Otto Catalogue headquarters is right around the corner form the place.
Forthefirstime
02-09-07, 12:13
I have enjoied reading many of the reports in this forum and I am very grateful to all the contributors. I am a FKK first timer and really looking forward to it. I will be in the Dusseldorf area later this month. I will be based in Gelsenkirchen for work. I have a Sunday afternoon free (i know it is probably not the best day of the week). I was considering two options since I will arrive around noon at dusseldorf airport and I will have a rented car:
First option go directly to Saunaclub Living Room
second option go first to the hotel in Gelsenkirchen and then from there to Heavensgate in Dorsten/Wulfen
As a first timer I really don't know what would be the best choice for me. Price is not a major factor, considering I have only a day to spend (three session max.). I think I like the idea of a true FKK (naked women) better, but from the reports it would appear that LR has a better selection of girls.
Is BBBJ included in the 50/30 minutes deal at LR, and does anyone know what are the prices for extras there (CIM and Anal). Someone mentioned about a bit of couch action in the KINO at LR, any chances in Heavensgate?
I would be really grateful if any of you could help me with the choice. I promise a full and detailed report of my experience.
Forthefirstime
02-09-07, 12:59
I have enjoied reading many of the reports in this forum and I am very grateful to all the contributors. I am a FKK first timer and really looking forward to it. I will be in the Dusseldorf area later this month. I will be based in Gelsenkirchen for work. I have a Sunday afternoon free (i know it is probably not the best day of the week). I was considering two options since I will arrive around noon at dusseldorf airport and I will have a rented car:
First option go directly to Saunaclub Living Room
second option go first to the hotel in Gelsenkirchen and then from there to Heavensgate in Dorsten/Wulfen
As a first timer I really don't know what would be the best choice for me. Price is not a major factor, considering I have only a day to spend (three session max.). I think I like the idea of a true FKK (naked women) better, but from the reports it would appear that LR has a better selection of girls.
Is BBBJ included in the 50/30 minutes deal at LR, and does anyone know what are the prices for extras there (CIM and Anal). Someone mentioned about a bit of couch action in the KINO at LR, any chances in Heavensgate?
I would be really grateful if any of you could help me with the choice. I promise a full and detailed report of my experience.
I have enjoied reading many of the reports in this forum and I am very grateful to all the contributors. I am a FKK first timer and really looking forward to it. I will be in the Dusseldorf area later this month. I will be based in Gelsenkirchen for work. I have a Sunday afternoon free (i know it is probably not the best day of the week). I was considering two options since I will arrive around noon at dusseldorf airport and I will have a rented car:
First option go directly to Saunaclub Living Room
second option go first to the hotel in Gelsenkirchen and then from there to Heavensgate in Dorsten/Wulfen
As a first timer I really don't know what would be the best choice for me. Price is not a major factor, considering I have only a day to spend (three session max.). I think I like the idea of a true FKK (naked women) better, but from the reports it would appear that LR has a better selection of girls.
Is BBBJ included in the 50/30 minutes deal at LR, and does anyone know what are the prices for extras there (CIM and Anal). Someone mentioned about a bit of couch action in the KINO at LR, any chances in Heavensgate?
I would be really grateful if any of you could help me with the choice. I promise a full and detailed report of my experience.
When are you in Gelsenkirchen? I and my co-conspirator will be in the area.
For your first FKK club experience, better to do a club where the women are nude.
I've not been to LR but my understanding is that its not a nude club. It sister club, Goldentime, isn't either. But neither are PHG or Wildenrath (the other two in the Golden Triangle).
Heavensgate is so it is a better choice, IMHO.
I would also consider Cocoon. In fact, we are considering dropping in on Cocoon on a Sunday.
Bernds, unfortunately, is closed on weekends.
No, you will not get couch action normally at Heavensgate or Cocoon.
One alternative is to do PT Dorsten as it is a hop, skip and jump away from Gelsenkirchen but it might offend your sensibilities if you are at all bothered by public activity. Better to save it for when you have had your cherry popped.
There are numerous clubs in the Ruhr, particularly Red Carpets, by way. Being in Gelsenkirchen and Duesseldorf puts you within striking distance of all of them.
A good starter club is Samya in Koeln. I'd keep that in mind too.
I and my co-conspirator will be in the area.
One alternative is to do PT Dorsten as it is a hop, skip and jump away from Gelsenkirchen but it might offend your sensibilities if you are at all bothered by public activity. Better to save it for when you have had your cherry popped.
Ive been called alot of things...co-conspirator is pretty much at the bottom of the list.
Going to a PT as the very first visit into the 'club scene' might be a bit too much. Looking around and seeing 12 other guys watching you might make little firstime go into hiding.
Forthefirstime
02-10-07, 09:08
Thank you very much Jakyo and Breadman for the advice. Yes I think a partytreff would be a little too much for me. So I will follow your advice and go to Cocoon or Heavensgate. It will be Sunday the 25th.
One more thing, I don't speak german (only English and Italian) will it be a big problems in those clubs?
Thank you very much Jakyo and Breadman for the advice. Yes I think a partytreff would be a little too much for me. So I will follow your advice and go to Cocoon or Heavensgate. It will be Sunday the 25th.
One more thing, I don't speak german (only English and Italian) will it be a big problems in those clubs?
... at these two clubs.
They do get less tourist traffic though so its not like dropping in on a large club in Hessen where the women are expecting foreigners.
I've seen lots of Italians at other clubs though.
If you go to Cocoon on that Sunday, we might be able to meet in person. PM me.
In other words: he who wants to fuck must be friendly.
This is a rule which will take you very far at any club.
The women don't like jerks but then who does?
Hi all
I'll be hitting the Palace on Feb 23rd for my first ever FKK visit. From there I'm driving to Augsburg to the Collesuem on the 24th and if I'm lucky, I'll have enough energy (and funds! ) to hit the new Atlantis on the 25th.
From extensive reading of this message board, I haven't found the answers to a couple of questions I have.
Looking to manage the amount of cash to carry, can the entrance fee of 75 Euros be paid by a US credit or debit card? I realize the sessions would be cash only.
With the assumption that the sessions with the women are only in cash. Are USD accepted or is it Euros? I'm guessing Euros, but would like confirmation.
The house provides condoms or do I bring my own?
There was a question awhile ago asking when does one pay the SP. Before or after showering after being with her?
Thanks everyone for all the information. It has really helped me plann my trip. I promise to post reports when I return.
Turnkey13
Looks do count a little.
Ok there is no doubt that no matter how hideous looking you are, you will still get service in an FKK or PT. But there is also little doubt that good looking guys really do get better service.
Take me: I am fat and average looking, or maybe some women see me as fat and ugly. One thing I would rarely be described as is fat and good looking. Now I don’t get as depressed about it as you might think, and I tend to get good if not brilliant service in the FKKs and PTs.
Now take Routard as an example: I have never met Routard, but many who have met him from the board here describe him as being very good looking and fit. From Routards reports he definitely seems to get more GFE in places than I do, especially PTs etc.
Im not really complaining here, I’m just pointing out to any newbies that if you are as ugly as fuck, well you might not get great GFE service and therefore you might not be as impressed with the German sex clubs as some young, good looking, ribbed guy, who might get great GFE service.
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