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Dasisextra
03-05-13, 00:44
Another first visit in over a year, service as good as ever, line up still unchanged. Had 3 great session, Suzanne, Natalie, & Jacqueline. Would repeat with all everyday, if I had the energy and cash. Mara was present for those who are interested.

Visual
03-06-13, 23:25
Another first visit in over a year, service as good as ever, line up still unchanged. Had 3 great session, Suzanne, Natalie, & Jacqueline. Would repeat with all everyday, if I had the energy and cash. Mara was present for those who are interested.Is Katja back from her trip to SA?

Dasisextra
03-07-13, 01:43
Is Katja back from her trip to SA?I do not remember seeing her sorry.

UltraHappy
03-08-13, 05:09
Got there around 4:30 pm on a Thursday. Total bust.

The food that was set out looked pretty terrible. Some kind of stew that didn't look appetizing at all. Maybe their better food offerings come out later?

Almost all buffaloes in attendance. Only two possible doable girls (if I had been way hornier and if I didn't have other better clubs in the area to visit). One of the girls was almost kind of cute.

I left around 5 pm without even trying any of the girls there.

Sorry to all of those of you who are always raving about how awesome Bernd's is.

I know this probably isn't a fair review given that I only have one late afternoon mid-week data point.

Probably won't repeat, given Bernd's location and the depressing line-up (at least this once for me). Maybe the line-up gets better later in the evening and later in the week?

Parking tip: The address of Bernd's is 28. You can park next door at the address 24, the lot next door marked with a sign "Privat Parking Platz." There is no indication at this lot that this private parking lot is for Bernd's but I confirmed this with the staff inside.

Maxime
03-08-13, 08:37
Got there around 4:30 pm on a Thursday. Total bust.

The food that was set out looked pretty terrible. Some kind of stew that didn't look appetizing at all. Maybe their better food offerings come out later?

Almost all buffaloes in attendance. Only two possible doable girls (if I had been way hornier and if I didn't have other better clubs in the area to visit). One of the girls was almost kind of cute.

I left around 5 pm without even trying any of the girls there.

Sorry to all of those of you who are always raving about how awesome Bernd's is.

I know this probably isn't a fair review given that I only have one late afternoon mid-week data point.

Probably won't repeat, given Bernd's location and the depressing line-up (at least this once for me). Maybe the line-up gets better later in the evening and later in the week?

Parking tip: The address of Bernd's is 28. You can park next door at the address 24, the lot next door marked with a sign "Privat Parking Platz." There is no indication at this lot that this private parking lot is for Bernd's but I confirmed this with the staff inside.+1.

Bernds is known for the good service (!) of the girls, not their good looks. I visited the club several times, and it is nice and cosy (home like atmosphere) but IMHO there are never more than 2-3 do-able girls present. Since they all offer very good service, this can be enough to have a good time, but the line up can not be compared with the other good service clubs like Freude, Babylon, etc.

It is nice to visit few times a year at max, but don't expect many new, young beauties every week (like in Oase).

Breadman
03-08-13, 21:00
Got there around 4:30 pm on a Thursday. Total bust.

I left around 5 pm without even trying any of the girls there.What do you have to apologize for? You spent 70 euro's and transportation costs to check out a club that I have said many times in this forum has got to do something to increase the quality of its girls. The low class of girls who are offering AO as a means to keep making money is killing this club. There used to be six to eight really good looking girls working at this club at any given time several years back, not anymore. Two to three doable girls won't keep a club afloat.

Hessen Bub
03-08-13, 21:37
If looks are important to you Schieferhof is the wrong place. It's known for good service, CIM is included in the standard 50€ for 30min. But there's very very few young good looking girls, especially in the last years. I remember Princess, a young black girl. The club itself is small and old, has a lot of (older) regular guests. Some girls seem to jave been working there from the first day.

HB

Eeyore
03-08-13, 23:20
If looks are important to you Schieferhof is the wrong place. It's known for good service, CIM is included in the standard 50€ for 30min. But there's very very few young good looking girls, especially in the last years. I remember Princess, a young black girl. The club itself is small and old, has a lot of (older) regular guests. Some girls seem to jave been working there from the first day.

HBI think we are in agreement, but need to add my perspective. Without Bernd's, the FKK model would not be the same, and we should be grateful. That said, we should not be blindly loyal. After my last visit, even though I have a very strong opportunity to visit there in the next two weeks, I am more likely to visit other places that are more convenient and offer comparable or better service. I do not mind that they service their established clientele very well and do not wish them any disloyalty. However, I have other options to pursue and would rather spend my time finding places that are not well represented on this Board.

Any other FKK suggestions within an hour of Bonn by public transportation besides Bernd's and Samya?

Breadman
03-09-13, 01:00
Any other FKK suggestions within an hour of Bonn by public transportation besides Bernd's and Samya?I've always said Finca's the better option. Bernds charges 70 euro's for entry. If you arrive at Finca for their happy hour entrance of 30 euro's, a girl and entrance sets you back 80 euro's. And they've got an outdoor pool, whirlpool, great sauna setup and a better lineup (especially on a weekend night).

Yakob
03-09-13, 11:16
Got there around 4:30 pm on a Thursday. Total bust.

The food that was set out looked pretty terrible. Some kind of stew that didn't look appetizing at all. Maybe their better food offerings come out later?

Almost all buffaloes in attendance. Only two possible doable girls (if I had been way hornier and if I didn't have other better clubs in the area to visit). One of the girls was almost kind of cute.

I left around 5 pm without even trying any of the girls there.

Probably won't repeat, given Bernd's location and the depressing line-up (at least this once for me). Maybe the line-up gets better later in the evening and later in the week?Hi Ultrahappy,

Sorry I could not be there.

Thank you for the Bernds visit and taking one for the team and giving us a report that pinpoints someone's taste point in girls on the Bernds line up. I always find like other shere that if you find other writers with your same or similar tastes that their reports help you gauge whether a line up that they say is good is really good to your tastes. If you like buffaloes has you say then the Bernds line up is your idea of hog heaven. But if we know your tastes is like Gazelles like Szyzgies does then you like skinny girls with no silicones. If we know you like young pretty girls like you do then we know Bernds is not the place to be.

Comments on your report:

If you came at 4:30pm on a Thursday then it is pretty sure that the food you see is the food. The food will get topped up and maybe some other dishes may be added later to supplement the dinner session so you may have seen the end of the lunch food.

Yes, the line up at Bernds can be for some a herd of Buffaloes since it looks like they had lived their life and no need to keep up appearances or compete with the models that grace the likes of Golden Time or even Samya in that local area. Park Sauna Residenz I give 50:50 in terms of their line up being great or "oh my god, why am I here?" thinking.

It is tough when you are trying your best to see if their is some trait in a girl that will give you a boner that you can use and the will to make it work. It is a forcing the issue. It is almost that you want to go home and bone your own with online porn back at your hotel.

You did well to last to 5pm after a 4:30pm arrival. No need to wait for whichever girls were in the room since the likelihood is such as you described. There have been a few mongers that I have seen during my Bernds visits where the guy turns up, looks around and asks where is the rest of the club and are there any more girls coming or even asking when are the girls coming since they discount or cannot believe that all the "buffaloes" as you describe are the girls in the line up. Usually these are first time visitors when I managed to geta word in before they make their excuses and leave to a bemused reception staff who has seen it all before and makes no overture to make them stay. Hey, Bernds has your 70 euro entrance fee. It is your choice to leave, yes?

If you were there at 4:30pm to 5pm then it is highly likely that what you see is the line up. Most of the Bernds girls are prompt since the closing rooms must be taken is before or by midnight. The place can be dead around 10pm. So if the girl has not arrived by 5pm then she has no so much residual time to make the euro to feed her desires. So thinking the line up gets better later on may not be an issue.

Regarding whether the Bernds line up getting better later in the week, I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean on Fridays or later in the week as in Monday? The reason is that Bernds is no open on Saturdays or Sundays and usually not open State / National holidays either. So your Thursday visit is later in the week so to speak. So what you see is what you see.

A man of your tastes would be hard pushed at Bernds. It is good that you found that out.

Try to find other writers with similar tastes as you and go with their advices. Some may like the services of Bernds but it seems the visuals are important to you as well so it is a bust for you Bernds is.

Yakob
03-09-13, 11:20
Bernds does sport the odd pretty young thing for those that need it. These are of Valentina.

Eeyore
03-09-13, 11:59
I've always said Finca's the better option. Bernds charges 70 euro's for entry. If you arrive at Finca for their happy hour entrance of 30 euro's, a girl and entrance sets you back 80 euro's. And they've got an outdoor pool, whirlpool, great sauna setup and a better lineup (especially on a weekend night).Thanks for the tip. Even though Finca's appears close to Bahnhofstr, it appears that Dierdorf Bahnhof is no longer functioning as a train station. DB says it will take over two hours with long bus connections to get there from Bonn. Google maps simply says you can't get there from here by public transportation. That just doesn't seem right. Do you have advice how to get to Finca's by train? Or should I post this inquiry somewhere else?

Maxime
03-09-13, 13:48
Any other FKK suggestions within an hour of Bonn by public transportation besides Bernd's and SamyaDon't know about public tansport, but 35 car minutes from Bonn is Babylon (Elsdorf). A great line-up (between 15 and 25 girls, all FKK, and almost all could do well in Oase, meaning they are 18-28 and look great) AND they offer complete service, already starting on the couch (see pasports on their website, and trust me, this reflects reality most of the time!). Bernds (and Parksauna Residenz) can not compete anymore with this kind of club.

Hessen Bub
03-09-13, 17:01
I've always said Finca's the better option. Bernds charges 70 euro's for entry. If you arrive at Finca for their happy hour entrance of 30 euro's, a girl and entrance sets you back 80 euro's. And they've got an outdoor pool, whirlpool, great sauna setup and a better lineup (especially on a weekend night).Entry plus 30min plus CIM:

130€ at Finca if you catch the HH.

120€ at Bernds. Any time.

HB

Breadman
03-09-13, 21:17
Entry plus 30min plus CIM:

HBI enjoy Finca's outdoor pool, how much does it cost to rent a pool and put it outside at Bernds? If your going to add 'what's included', then figure out how much to put in an inground pool and get back to me.

Hessen Bub
03-09-13, 23:39
You are going to the clubs to swim your lenghts and train for the Olympics?

I forgot: At Schieferhof beer and hard liquor are free.

HB

Boomer10
03-10-13, 03:51
I enjoy Finca's outdoor pool, how much does it cost to rent a pool and put it outside at Bernds? If your going to add 'what's included', then figure out how much to put in an inground pool and get back to me.Well, let's see. Bernds and Babylon both had indoor pools. They were so popular that both clubs filled them in. But I see your point, I really miss doing laps between sessions. Maybe we can come with a new Olympic demonstration sport, The Modern Bernds Biathlon-room laps followed by pool laps. Most laps in 4 hours wins a gold dildo?

Breadman
03-10-13, 06:47
Well, let's see. Bernds and Babylon both had indoor pools.Tons of clubs had indoor pools and turned them into usable space. PHG and Dolce Vita (the partytreff) come to mind. World would become a larger club if they filled in their indoor pool, its only used by drunks at 2am anyway. Same goes for Acapulco. At some point the space becomes more valuable when business picks up.

Dreams
03-10-13, 11:05
I enjoy Finca's outdoor pool, how much does it cost to rent a pool and put it outside at Bernds? If your going to add 'what's included', then figure out how much to put in an inground pool and get back to me.Can't you understand that most of us don't give a damn for a pool when mongering? I have a club next to my house with a pool, gym and sauna, but no girls.

Vito Corleone
03-10-13, 11:48
Thanks for the tip. Even though Finca's appears close to Bahnhofstr, it appears that Dierdorf Bahnhof is no longer functioning as a train station. DB says it will take over two hours with long bus connections to get there from Bonn. Google maps simply says you can't get there from here by public transportation. That just doesn't seem right. Do you have advice how to get to Finca's by train? Or should I post this inquiry somewhere else?Finca is located in the middle of nowhere. I think the 2 hr bus connections is your best shot. Best to stick with clubs near Koln & Dusseldorf.

Eeyore
03-10-13, 12:21
Can't you understand that most of us don't give a damn for a pool when mongering? I have a club next to my house with a pool, gym and sauna, but no girls.Thanks Dreams. Which is to bring us back to the topic of girls. So, in my experience, sometimes Bernds has really great talent and excellent service. Sometimes not so much. I guess that any club will have stronger line-ups some days and at certain hours.

FKKs generally charge an entry fee for use of the facilities, compared to street action, laufhauses and studios. It is cheaper just to go to a laufhaus with no entry fee, like most Eros Centers or minimal ones like Pascha if one just wants to fuck. I don't mind paying an entry fee to an FKK but I am paying for more than the pool, the drinks, the gym and the sauna.

That said, I don't like it when I pay an entry fee and there are only 2-3 girls working who do not seem to be really that into me, and I get indifferent or mediocre service, like the last time I was at Bernds. See my November report.

In addition to the facilities, I expect an FKK to have a good selection that is comparable if not better in quality and service than the laufhauses and studios.

Breadman
03-10-13, 15:09
Can't you understand that most of us don't give a damn for a pool when mongering? I have a club next to my house with a pool, gym and sauna, but no girls.Exactly my point. Indoor pools are a wasted space that serve the customer better if they are filled in so the room size is increased. Imagine World's downstairs area with the pool removed. In its place put one large whirlpool like Oase has, the rest of the area set up for more seating.

Boomer10
03-10-13, 18:36
Breadman, I haven't got a clue as to what your point is, other than you hate Bernds. I understand you hate the place, everybody knows you hate the place. It's in a small old building with a loyal customer base that doesn't include you. I'm tired of your irrelevant rants. After a lot of years, you have finally convinced me to add someone to my ignore list. So long, and thanks for all the fish.

Dreams
03-10-13, 20:44
Breadman, I haven't got a clue as to what your point is, other than you hate Bernds. I understand you hate the place, everybody knows you hate the place. It's in a small old building with a loyal customer base that doesn't include you. I'm tired of your irrelevant rants. After a lot of years, you have finally convinced me to add someone to my ignore list. So long, and thanks for all the fish.Yes, I share your irritation.

I find it difficult to understand why he goes on polluting this thread. He has all the rights in the world not to like this place. And to say it, at least once, that is of course if and when he has ever been there. But thererafter?

Unfortunately, it is obvioulsy his hobby to go and lecture others, since, similarly, he goes to the AO threads, to express how much better it is to fuck with condoms. Again, I respect his choice, but for God's sake, let's everyone do what they want where they want. There are many places that I don't like as well, but I don't waste my time and other's in posting endlessly about it.

Anyway, everyone knows what Bernd's can (and can't) offer, it has been described many times. Luckily, not too many guys like it, otherwise it would be too crowded. (BTW, sometimes it is.) Now, those of us who like it, can we be left alone and happily allowed to share our opinions about service and girls there?

Dreams
03-10-13, 20:46
So what was your point in justifying extra cost at Finca compared to Bernds, if it is not the existence of the pool? I'll rather get free CIM / COB, rather than paying extras for those and have free use of a pool.

Breadman
03-10-13, 21:36
Unfortunately, it is obvioulsy his hobby to go and lecture others, since, similarly, he goes to the AO threads, to express how much better it is to fuck with condoms.First, I've visited AO clubs several times. What I was saying in my comment about the condoms had to do with the quality of the girls and the clubs. You can't spend more than a few hours in these dumps. And the girls offering AO are usually the lowest quality (with a couple of exceptions over the years). So personally, I'd rather visit a club like Oase and enjoy the better talent and the facilities and spend some cash on the thinnest condoms available.


Anyway, everyone knows what Bernd's can (and can't) offer, it has been described many times. Luckily, not too many guys like it, otherwise it would be too crowded. (BTW, sometimes it is.) Now, those of us who like it, can we be left alone and happily allowed to share our opinions about service and girls there? .So your allowed to share your opinion but I'm not? Don't think it works that way. Ask Ultrahappy how happy he was to spend that 70 euro entrance fee based on your reviews?


I find it difficult to understand why he goes on polluting this threadIts you who's creating false images of this club, look to Ultrahappy's latest review. Funny how nobody who loves Bernds defends negative reviews, its almost like you know he's in the right.

Eeyore
03-10-13, 23:41
Breadman / Dreams,

In general I agree with the 'if you can't say something nice, don't say anything' school of thought. However, this board is to help people understand the situation and I felt the need to report my negative experiences with Bernds as well as the positive ones. I've made my point and don't feel the need to dwell on it. I came here looking for advice, not an argument.

I don't think we need to get personal here, gentlemen. We all have different tastes, we can all share our opinions and we can disagree without being disagreeable. You've made your points. Can we move on?

One thing Dreams said seems a little inaccurate to me.


Anyway, everyone knows what Bernd's can (and can't) offer, it has been described many times. Luckily, not too many guys like it, otherwise it would be too crowded. (BTW, sometimes it is.) Now, those of us who like it, can we be left alone and happily allowed to share our opinions about service and girls there?Obviously everyone does not know what Bernd's can and can't offer. Yes, Dreams, Bernds' is relaxed and chill compared to the big shark-tank clubs. Bernds seems to cater to a small group of loyal customers, which includes you but does not seem to include me either. I've had some good experiences there before and would like to have good experiences there again. The positive posts could be more helpful if they had more information about when best to go, how to get good service, what to ask and other things that contribute to a good experience.

DoughBoy2
03-11-13, 00:18
FKK Bernd's!

I thought this was the swimming pool thread!

So you like the outdoor pool but think that indoor pools should be done away with!

What do you think about hot tubs or jacuzzis?

Should they be indoor or outdoor?

Or perhaps rather than discuss the merits of indoor or outdoor water features, you might prefer to provide some actual good specific Information about the clubs and the women who work there. If you can.

I suggest we revert to the topic I. E. FKK Bernd's and the women who earn their living within those four wall (pool or no pool!).

Boomer10
03-11-13, 01:33
One thing Dreams said seems a little inaccurate to me.

Obviously everyone does not know what Bernd's can and can't offer. Yes, Dreams, Bernds' is relaxed and chill compared to the big shark-tank clubs. Bernds seems to cater to a small group of loyal customers, which includes you but does not seem to include me either. I've had some good experiences there before and would like to have good experiences there again. The positive posts could be more helpful if they had more information about when best to go, how to get good service, what to ask and other things that contribute to a good experience.This thread is getting close 2300 posts. Most of the good and bad aspects have been gone over several times. If nothing else, the club doesn't change much from day to day. I've been visiting it for about 7 years and there hasn't been much change that I can see. My ATF is still there and is the main reason I continue to visit. In general, I think the girls are as attractive as most other clubs of similar size. It is never going to be able to compare to the mega clubs with regard to variety or numbers of '10's. If you hold it to that standard, it will always be lacking. It is what it is.

Everyone has different tastes and what I like only applies to me. I usually limit my comments to things like, they have a different restaurant providing food now (and Ultrahappy bad as you think is, it's better than it was). But which girl is the best at anything is so subjective, I prefer to not comment. This may not be the areas a novice would like a comment but that is as far as I'm willing go. Others are free to comment however they wish. In this case, the other individual crossed a line (and I would agree it's a completely arbitrary one). I could no longer separate noise from anything that resembled the truth and I have decided not to listen to the noise.

I would never suggest to anyone not make comments, that's what forums are for. I'll just choose what I want to read with a little more discretion.

Forcharles
03-11-13, 05:02
It is never going to be able to compare to the mega clubs with regard to variety or numbers of '10's. If you hold it to that standard, it will always be lacking. It is what it is.I've been to Bernds over the last 10 years and have never left unhappy. What appeals to me is the sincere effort of the girls I've been with to be as sensual as possible. The girls appear to honestly enjoy being with me and want to satisfy me. If they are just acting, they are very good at it. Only once have I been disappointed with one girl. You won't find teeny-type girls there (maybe with one or two exceptions) , but the sex with an experienced woman like those at Bernds who know how to make out, is worth the trip every time I travel to Germany. I think that is why the club has a loyal clientele.

Dreams
03-11-13, 11:18
[QUOTE=Eeyore; 1396586]Breadman / Dreams,

Obviously everyone does not know what Bernd's can and can't offer. QUOTE]

Well, that is only for those who don't read the posts. How many posts have described the place? How many have clearly stated that it is not the place for find young optifucks? And, yes, ultrahappy post is useful, it is a factual report of a recent visit by a guy who gives his opinion. He did not enjoy the place, says why and moves on. Fair enough. And then somebody else enjoyed the place, says why and moves on. That's what fora are about. It is different from repeated "reports" from some other who has not been there since ages, and pick up any occasions to malign the club and those who like it.

Dreams
03-11-13, 11:20
First, I've visited AO clubs several times. .You, the condom preacher, you visit the AO clubs? OMG! A bit like the priests who are caught in brothels, and explain that they are there only to save the souls of the prostitutes!

Eeyore
03-11-13, 21:20
This thread is getting close 2300 posts. Most of the good and bad aspects have been gone over several times. If nothing else, the club doesn't change much from day to day. I've been visiting it for about 7 years and there hasn't been much change that I can see. My ATF is still there and is the main reason I continue to visit. In general, I think the girls are as attractive as most other clubs of similar size. It is never going to be able to compare to the mega clubs with regard to variety or numbers of '10's. If you hold it to that standard, it will always be lacking. It is what it is.

Everyone has different tastes and what I like only applies to me. I usually limit my comments to things like, they have a different restaurant providing food now (and Ultrahappy bad as you think is, it's better than it was). But which girl is the best at anything is so subjective, I prefer to not comment. This may not be the areas a novice would like a comment but that is as far as I'm willing go. Others are free to comment however they wish. In this case, the other individual crossed a line (and I would agree it's a completely arbitrary one). I could no longer separate noise from anything that resembled the truth and I have decided not to listen to the noise.

I would never suggest to anyone not make comments, that's what forums are for. I'll just choose what I want to read with a little more discretion.I agree. With the number of posts it is difficult to separate the serious reviews and tips from the chatter. I check in here only when I'm in the area, which is once every year or so. I only go back so far. However, Bernd's has always been high on my list of places to visit around the world and I've wanted to experience the best it has to offer. I know the offer is limited, but I agree. I get noise it is a good place. I get noise it is a bad place. I do not know when it is good and when it is bad.

Eeyore
03-11-13, 21:21
[QUOTE=Eeyore; 1396586]Breadman / Dreams,

Obviously everyone does not know what Bernd's can and can't offer. QUOTE]

Well, that is only for those who don't read the posts. How many posts have described the place? How many have clearly stated that it is not the place for find young optifucks? And, yes, ultrahappy post is useful, it is a factual report of a recent visit by a guy who gives his opinion. He did not enjoy the place, says why and moves on. Fair enough. And then somebody else enjoyed the place, says why and moves on. That's what fora are about. It is different from repeated "reports" from some other who has not been there since ages, and pick up any occasions to malign the club and those who like it.

Fair enough Dreams, fair enough. I read back 5-6 screens and see a lot of bickering and fighting and I got bored. In general I avoid such conversations.

My eyes are not all that good and I am much more into attitude than looks. I went back and looked at my own posts about Bernd's. My first post on the place was 2005 and the first good experience I had was all the way back in 2011.

No question I had a great time in 2011 and I was pleased to post. The other times before and after didn't count. I didn't report them, thinking--no, no, knew--knew that I was doing it wrong and that everybody at Bernd's who had a wonderful time was cool and knew what he was doing. I was just a chump and I needed to learn German, blend in, not stand out.

Yes, I'm from North America. You have a problem with that?

I saw the earlier thread about North Americans, mainly people from the United States, not having a good time at Bernd's. I don't think people from the US are wanted there, in my experience. That's OK. If they post a sign over the door that says "Yankee Go Home" I might not go home, but I will go elsewhere.

You're right about doing my homework and I have said the same to others. Point taken. I could and probably should go through all the posts back to the beginning to see how they got their fantastic reputation, where everybody thought it was the best, and where they stopped being by far the best in the world I'd ever been and got to where it is today. I'm not interested in malingering. I'm interested in going to places where I'm welcome and can have a good time. Bernd's isn't on the list of places I need to go anymore, but if I will watch here and if it ever gets back on, I will go there gladly. Whatever my experience, I will post.

From here, I'm moving on.

Kommodore
03-11-13, 23:52
Guys.

I really think that this conversation has been done to death.
Bernd's is Bernd's, you either love the place or you don't.
Bernd's does not need to be defended (nor should it be continually attacked).
Lets leave this place for the guys who enjoy visiting Bernd's and give them room to express their enjoyment of this club.

If you don't like Bernd's, why not just move on to give positive feedback and information about a club which you do enjoy visiting.

Dreams
03-12-13, 12:03
Guys.

If you don't like Bernd's, why not just move on to give positive feedback and information about a club which you do enjoy visiting.Hopefully a conclusion to this useless debate. Got it Breadman?

Dreams
03-12-13, 12:12
Yes, I'm from North America. You have a problem with that?Euh? Don't get paranoid, please.

BTW, when I was at Bernd's last, I spent most ot the time left free by the girls chatting with an interesting gentleman from New York. He seemed very much liked by everyone there. So much for the "yankee go home". Suggestion.

Otehrwise, all fine, let's move on.

Cheers

Henio
03-12-13, 12:48
Hopefully a conclusion to this useless debate. Got it Breadman?Ending the debate followed with an enticing question. Priceless

Dreams
03-12-13, 16:24
Ending the debate followed with an enticing question. PricelessHave to agree there. But I could not resist. I should have put an exclamation point rather than question mark. Hopefully he will not answer!

ButtLover
04-03-13, 17:10
By the way, don't try to go to Bernds on a Saturday, the club is closed at weekends!Hi,

Are Bernds normally open at Fridays?

Their website says Monday-Thursday!

Montag- Donnerstag von 13. 00 Uhr bis 0. 00 Uhr

BL

Hessen Bub
04-03-13, 17:25
This is what the website says:


Montag. Donnerstag von 13. 00 Uhr bis 0. 00 Uhr

Letzter Einlass 23. 00 Uhr.

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ButtLover
04-03-13, 17:29
This is what the website says:

HBThanks!

I have already booked a hotel in Hennef on a Friday in June.

BL

Otto
04-04-13, 22:31
Thanks!

I have already booked a hotel in Hennef on a Friday in June.

BL. And you know that Bernd's is closed on Saturday and Sunday.

Saucehollandaise
04-08-13, 16:15
. And you know that Bernd's is closed on Saturday and Sunday.You can enjoy the Friday at Bernd's and take the Saturday to explore the rather nice area.

Gggfan
04-19-13, 15:06
Hi all!

Does anyone know if Bernds is open the 15th of August?

I know it is a public holiday in some countries. From my researches, I found out that it should not be a public holiday in North Rhine-Westphalia, so Bernds should be open. Can anyone confirm as I'm planning my annual trip to Bernds now?

Thanks!

Indi Companion
04-19-13, 15:13
Hi all!

Does anyone know if Bernds is open the 15th of August?

I know it is a public holiday in some countries. From my researches, I found out that it should not be a public holiday in North Rhine-Westphalia, so Bernds should be open. Can anyone confirm as I'm planning my annual trip to Bernds now?

Thanks!Bernds is closed on August 15. At least two years ago when I tried to get there.

Gggfan
04-22-13, 12:10
Hi all!

Does anyone know if Bernds is open the 15th of August?

I know it is a public holiday in some countries. From my researches, I found out that it should not be a public holiday in North Rhine-Westphalia, so Bernds should be open. Can anyone confirm as I'm planning my annual trip to Bernds now?

Thanks!I wrote them an email; here is their answer.) :

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Hello,

August 15. Is a normal workingday for us. The Club is open!

Hope this helps,

Team Schieferhof.

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I might be there the 14th and-or the 15th of August

Indi Companion
04-22-13, 14:17
I wrote them an email; here is their answer.) :

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Hello,

August 15. Is a normal workingday for us. The Club is open!

Hope this helps,

Team Schieferhof.

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I might be there the 14th and-or the 15th of AugustThat's good news! I will try to be there!

Yakob
04-29-13, 00:37
- 30. 04. : Tanz in den Mai Rabatt-Tag, Eintritt nur 50€

Stell dein "Maibaum" bei UNS auf.

01. 05. Bleibt der Club geschlossen.

Bernds has a Tanz in den Mai discount special entry of 50 euro.

Bernds is closed on 1 May.

AlwaysLookin
05-09-13, 21:40
How many German clubs work at this club on a typical Saturday or Sunday?

Hessen Bub
05-10-13, 06:54
How many German clubs work at this club on a typical Saturday or Sunday?You probably mean "how many girls.". And Bernd's closed on weekends.

HB

Yakob
05-15-13, 07:46
Bernds is having a special day on 17 Mai with a 3X3 deal, frei entry and raffles. See attached flyer.

To be clear, this club is no open on Saturdays and Sundays. It is a Monday to Friday club.

In saying that, on Monday. 20 Mai the club is closed due to holiday.

Boomer10
05-15-13, 12:04
Bernds is having a special day on 17 Mai with a 3X3 deal, frei entry and raffles. See attached flyer.

To be clear, this club is no open on Saturdays and Sundays. It is a Monday to Friday club.

In saying that, on Monday. 20 Mai the club is closed due to holiday.A little clarification, they're giving away 3 free entries and 3 1/2 hour sessions via a drawing from the guests present.

Boomer10
05-19-13, 00:21
Just returned from a short visit to Germany and thought I'd pass along some observations.

Girls I remember being present: Anna, Jenny, Mara, Mina, Leonie, Natali, Katja, Jacqueline, Magda, Babsi, Sandra, Erica and Tina. There were a couple new girls whose names I don't know (including a very attractive young lady who wore glasses). (Susan made an appearance but was in civilian clothes due to a recent surgery).

A note for Babsi fans, since I left, I've read in a couple of german boards that after long career, she has retired.

Smoking is no longer allowed inside the building.

The garden has been updated a bit (more chairs, lounges and new love seat swing) and the outside building near the back fence has been cleaned up and was used as a staging area for grill party during my visit.

For nature lovers, it looks like it's OK to session in garden (I saw more than 1 couple taking advantage of the nice weather).

IMHO, great girls and my experience: normal Hof Standards.

ButtLover
05-19-13, 13:35
Hi!

I am going to Berds in a couple of weeks.

What I understand public sex is no problem at all at Berds.

Is it even possible to fuck a girl from behind when she is sitting on a barchair?

Thanks.

BL

Yakob
05-19-13, 13:45
Hi!

I am going to Berds in a couple of weeks.

What I understand public sex is no problem at all at Berds.

Is it even possible to fuck a girl from behind when she is sitting on a barchair?

Thanks.

BLHey Buttlover,

All that you ask is correct.

Njoy

ZeevZ
05-19-13, 17:07
Hi!

I am going to Berds in a couple of weeks.

What I understand public sex is no problem at all at Berds.

Is it even possible to fuck a girl from behind when she is sitting on a barchair?

Thanks.

BLDear ButtLover, all what you ask can be easily found at Bernds. There may eventually be a few girls who will ask you to go to room if the club is very busy, but otherwise you can have whatever you want wherever you prefer, LOL!

Marwar58
06-08-13, 23:05
Recent visit. Susan is back in action after her surgery. Nice result (s).

Tina-always a nice session.

Duet with Ana and the Brazilian-quite memorable.

Garden is fixed up with lots of chairs and "couch" action here and there.

Bernd's is steady-a bit boring for English speakers during down times, but room action second to none.

I'll be back.

Woofiee
06-09-13, 10:19
Breadman in another forum brought up a good point: Bernds has a very-poorly kept secret that AO / condom-free sex is easily available there. In fact, Bernds has always been a bit out of the usual FKK loop: as other have remarked, it more resembles a brothel than a FKK.

Shouldn't this be merged with the other AO groups? Or at least marked with an AO tag?

While others may choose AO, perhaps an equal or greater number would not, and would prefer to know if a club knowingly participates in AO, whether they actively promote it or not. As this is a public health risk, it's surely worth at least discussing.

Boomer10
06-09-13, 20:09
Breadman in another forum brought up a good point: Bernds has a very-poorly kept secret that AO / condom-free sex is easily available there. In fact, Bernds has always been a bit out of the usual FKK loop: as other have remarked, it more resembles a brothel than a FKK.

Shouldn't this be merged with the other AO groups? Or at least marked with an AO tag?

While others may choose AO, perhaps an equal or greater number would not, and would prefer to know if a club knowingly participates in AO, whether they actively promote it or not. As this is a public health risk, it's surely worth at least discussing.Please clarify for me, which of the FKKs that are in the Germany FKK Clubs Thread are true Freikörperkultur clubs?

To me the main difference between a FKK in this thread and a traditional brothel is the presentation and organization.

FKK: Entry Fee (both men and women) , girls independent (at least appear to be independent) of management, and access to facilities as part of the entry fee.

Brothel: No Entry Fee, girls split service fee with management, and no access to facilities after service is complete.

Where am I wrong?

Boomer10
06-09-13, 20:47
Breadman in another forum brought up a good point: Bernds has a very-poorly kept secret that AO / condom-free sex is easily available there. In fact, Bernds has always been a bit out of the usual FKK loop: as other have remarked, it more resembles a brothel than a FKK.

Shouldn't this be merged with the other AO groups? Or at least marked with an AO tag?

While others may choose AO, perhaps an equal or greater number would not, and would prefer to know if a club knowingly participates in AO, whether they actively promote it or not. As this is a public health risk, it's surely worth at least discussing.Did Breadman bring up a good point? Not in my opinion. I think Breadman has some "other" reason for being anti-Bernds, chosen not to share it in public and selected this method to express his "Bernds is bad beliefs". That is his right and I can't / won't speculate on his motivation.

AO is not the policy of the club (I never seen any mention on their website or in any forum posting that the CLUB makes. If I missed any, pm them to me and I may change my view).

The lore that I hear says that AO is available at ANY club.

If you want to sermonize about the evils of AO, have at it. I just think you're naive if you believe a particular club is safer based on your belief that the club is AO free.

Woofiee
06-10-13, 07:54
Please clarify for me, which of the FKKs that are in the Germany FKK Clubs Thread are true Freikörperkultur clubs?

To me the main difference between a FKK in this thread and a traditional brothel is the presentation and organization.

FKK: Entry Fee (both men and women) , girls independent (at least appear to be independent) of management, and access to facilities as part of the entry fee.

Brothel: No Entry Fee, girls split service fee with management, and no access to facilities after service is complete.

Where am I wrong?I believe you're mistaken in your description of the "brothel". There are brothels in Australia, Ukraine, Poland, Mexico, where you pay the house and the house "hosts" the ladies for a fee, and where you can shower and have a beer before and after, if you choose to. The "Appearance of Independence" is also not necessarily fixed; we're never sure of that here, especially with the biker influence to consider.

In any event, perhaps brothel is too harsh a word. I've often read here how Bernds isn't truly a FKK, basically never been an "optik fick" kind of place, but more downtempo and with slightly-older, erm. More experienced ladies. I don't want to cross wires in this conversation anyway; let's let it go.

Aside from that, no-one's "sermonising"; a nice cheap trick to change the subject by presuming we're acting as if it's immoral. Fromt eh amount of time I've spent face-down in strange pussy in German, Netherlands and Thailand, I'd not be one to preach. The point is that AO is, by definition, unsafe sex - and this is something that needs to be considered when it comes to health issues. The risk expands exponentially when there is a common practice for AO in a club (third time's the charm in Bernds; we all know this - it's been that way from the beginning there). GT and PHG (for example) it's not even discussed. I know I've gotten a bit buzzed at PHG one time and was looking for AO, and the girl talked me down on the spot...for €50 I'd have gotten it at Bernds. And then I'd be hungover the next day and worried for the next 3 months.

It's a public health issue - nothing more. That's why it should be noted that it's AO.

Dreams
06-10-13, 09:27
Shouldn't this be merged with the other AO groups? Or at least marked with an AO tag?Should Mainhattan, Oase, Palace etc. Be merged with Ao clubs?

AO is available in those clubs.

Excess
06-10-13, 10:44
Should Mainhattan, Oase, Palace etc. Be merged with Ao clubs?

AO is available in those clubs.No, if AO is available in these clubs on the selective decision of individual girls that doesn`t make them AO clubs where it is understood that AO is available as it says: from every girl as the usual service and usually included in the price. If you choose to go to an AO club but wish to cover up that is also fine.

A FKK club is exactly that FKK with variable service levels girl by girl and sometimes day by day including in some cases AO usually at an increased cost depending upon the arrangement made- willing seller, willing buyer, an AO club is just that AO. All the time and every time or they better invent a new name like AA. Being AO Almost Always, but not every time.

E.

Dreams
06-10-13, 15:29
No, if AO is available in these clubs on the selective decision of individual girls that doesn`t make them AO clubs where it is understood that AO is available as it says: from every girl as the usual service and usually included in the price. If you choose to go to an AO club but wish to cover up that is also fine.

A FKK club is exactly that FKK with variable service levels girl by girl and sometimes day by day including in some cases AO usually at an increased cost depending upon the arrangement made- willing seller, willing buyer, an AO club is just that AO. All the time and every time or they better invent a new name like AA. Being AO Almost Always, but not every time.

E.I Made this comment because some guys are trying to qualify Bernds as an AO club. My point was just to say that if Bernds is called an AO club because some girls provide Ao there, then all other clubs should to.

You actually illustrate my point and I thank you for that!

ButtLover
06-10-13, 18:20
Hi!

I visited Bernds last week.

It was my first visit there. The atmosphere was very familiar, and I appreciated the opportunity that you could fuck just about everywhere. I fucked a beautiful woman from Brazil public three times and a girl from Tunisia, I think her name was Inez. Too bad that the club is not open on weekends.

I will definitely return.

BL

Boomer10
06-11-13, 02:36
In any event, perhaps brothel is too harsh a word. I don't want to cross wires in this conversation anyway; let's let it go.Since this is a German based thread, I was taking about German P6. It was just an added bonus that I got to point out you were wrong.


Aside from that, no-one's "sermonising"; a nice cheap trick to change the subject by presuming we're acting as if it's immoral. I know I've gotten a bit buzzed at PHG one time and was looking for AO, and the girl talked me down on the spot.for €50 I'd have gotten it at Bernds. And then I'd be hungover the next day and worried for the next 3 months.Praise the Lord, I can see you standing at your pulpit, trying to convince the folks on how you were weak and saved by a fallen angel, pleading with the parishioners to not follow to you into temptation.


It's a public health issue - nothing more. That's why it should be noted that it's AO.See it anyway you want. When the behavior you're targeting is available everywhere and if you get your wish you will give the impression that one club is safer than another and that's simply not true. If there is a health risk, your line of action makes it worse.

To folks other than Woofiee, I apologize for being snarky. I get irritated when someone assumes he knows more about what's better for me than I. I also get annoyed with censorship. That exactly what is being proposed here. I willingly accept whatever rules Jackson places on the conversation because he pays the bill and I don't. This is his sandbox and I appreciate opportunity and information this provides. I don't want to see censorship when it's not needed and is actually counter productive to the stated goal.

So I have decided to retire from this conversation and will ignore it in the future.

Woofiee
06-11-13, 09:33
No, if AO is available in these clubs on the selective decision of individual girls that doesn`t make them AO clubs where it is understood that AO is available as it says: from every girl as the usual service and usually included in the price. If you choose to go to an AO club but wish to cover up that is also fine.

A FKK club is exactly that FKK with variable service levels girl by girl and sometimes day by day including in some cases AO usually at an increased cost depending upon the arrangement made- willing seller, willing buyer, an AO club is just that AO. All the time and every time or they better invent a new name like AA. Being AO Almost Always, but not every time.

E.Even within the context of known AO clubs, there are women who still rubber-up at these, and generally they will offer a condom. There is no such thing as absolute AO, so by your definition none of the clubs would qualify.

I don't care whether you or Dreams decide that it's not a sufficient distinction, in that Bernds looks the other way with AO. In both of your conclusions, the club must be way over the line to be considered over-the-line. The points that Breadman and I make is that once you're over that line, you qualify.

Woofiee
06-11-13, 09:43
Since this is a German based thread, I was taking about German P6. It was just an added bonus that I got to point out you were wrong.

Praise the Lord, I can see you standing at your pulpit, trying to convince the folks on how you were weak and saved by a fallen angel, pleading with the parishioners to not follow to you into temptation.

See it anyway you want. When the behavior you're targeting is available everywhere and if you get your wish you will give the impression that one club is safer than another and that's simply not true. If there is a health risk, your line of action makes it worse.

To folks other than Woofiee, I apologize for being snarky. I get irritated when someone assumes he knows more about what's better for me than I. I also get annoyed with censorship. That exactly what is being proposed here. I willingly accept whatever rules Jackson places on the conversation because he pays the bill and I don't. This is his sandbox and I appreciate opportunity and information this provides. I don't want to see censorship when it's not needed and is actually counter productive to the stated goal.

So I have decided to retire from this conversation and will ignore it in the future.Again. You're the one deciding who can speak and who cannot.

I never said not to go to Bernds, and I directly said that adults should do what they want! You misrepresent me and twist what I directly wrote to make your point, which is at best scurrilous. You both remind me of a bunch of Fox News commentators who drive-up fantasies because they want things ONLY their way.

You want to go without a condom, fine, but don't preach mistruths and then lecture me. Anyone with an ounce of respect for how science and the natural world works understands that when you have a club with loose "rules" about AO, and the guys going there aren't directly checked like in AO clubs, it is substantively *more* dangerous than a rubber-only OR AO club.

What I love is when guys decide that the rules of science don't exist because they don't think it applies to them. Brilliant. Keep up the good work.

Excess
06-11-13, 11:01
Even within the context of known AO clubs, there are women who still rubber-up at these, and generally they will offer a condom. There is no such thing as absolute AO, so by your definition none of the clubs would qualify.

I don't care whether you or Dreams decide that it's not a sufficient distinction, in that Bernds looks the other way with AO. In both of your conclusions, the club must be way over the line to be considered over-the-line. The points that Breadman and I make is that once you're over that line, you qualify.Exactly. My point made. Clearly, cameras and video recording of all room sessions shoudl be mandatory along with a shot of the punter`s Identification document and the girl`s appended to each session for later play back by the club and legal authorities and in full disclosure posted each day on the Internet. Only that way we might reasonably be sure that a club is providing what it advertises and that punters and the girls do not cross the line. Clubs could also then advertise their status and customers be reassured that it is correct.

I think not.

E.

SwingerLover
06-11-13, 14:28
and the guys going there aren't directly checked like in AO clubs, it is substantively *more* dangerous than a rubber-only OR AO club.

What I love is when guys decide that the rules of science don't exist because they don't think it applies to them. Brilliant. Keep up the good work.Seriously, it seems to me as if you don't know your ass from your ellbow, so please quit writing about stuff you know absolutely nothing about!

As I posted numerous times in other threads on ISG: I had my first Gonorrhea around 17 years ago, at a time when I had NEVER fucked without a condom at all. So don't think that those things protect you from anything, except from experiencing the whole enjoyment of being inside a woman! I never got any infection from AO-fucking, except maybe catching a cold or the flu from a girl occasionally.

Natascha The Gangbang Queen for example is doing bareback gangbangs worldwide for years, one could say decades by now, and is still alive and well and active. Others do similar stuff, like going to a lake in the summertime or a parking place and fuck every dick they can lay claim to; likewise bareback. All of them I'm talking about now (and know, and fucked, but at an AO-party with testing) are just fine and healthy.

So please don't talk about some nebulous "rules of science" which are wrong or at least completely suspect! I also suggest you do your mongering in Bavaria from now on, where AO Paysex is outlawed. So you needn't worry about AO in Bavarian Clubs at all.

In addition: It's not Dreams and Excess who "are putting constraints on anyone's enjoyment", it's you and your entourage! With the happy exception of Breadman, who at least writes decent stuff most of the time.

Woofiee
06-11-13, 18:39
Seriously, it seems to me as if you don't know your ass from your ellbow, so please quit writing about stuff you know absolutely nothing about!Ah, the king of the AO gang makes his appearance. I was wondering when Dreams would've brought in the artillery. And look, more personal attacks, more indignation, and a little bit of your personal history that no one really cares to know about. You are a small sample in a very large experiment, and if you don't think that simple size makes difference, then you really don't know what you're talking about.

Nonetheless, you can yell at me all you want. I'm a bit older now and strangely enough, I actually laugh when I read personal crap like this. If you haven't noticed, I'm not trying to get you or your gang to understand the efficacy of protection. You folks are lost cause and besides it's not my place to tell people what they should do, contrary to what you folks are doing.

The conversation was about information, and being honest about what happens in the club. You don't seem capable of being honest. Nonetheless, I think people will read this thread are now well-informed about what can be expected to be found at the Bernds. The fact that you folks love to change the tone of things, wrap it in your own way of thinking, is what makes this whole thread so enlightening. I'm not telling anyone to change anything; I'm just saying it needs to be identified. You're the intolerant lot.

Fascinating.

SwingerLover
06-12-13, 14:20
You're the intolerant lot.Now look at this again. He's the one who doesn't want to tolerate AO at the clubs and doesn't even want to tolerate people writing about it, but calls others the "intolerant lot".

Dreams didn't drag in any artillery, I only looked at the Bernds thread for the first time ever because I saw on the front page of the forum that Woofiee had posted something here and was just curious about what bullshit is spread here too. Are you spamming all the AO-threads in the FKK-forum? You know where AO is practiced, so why don't you stop reading those threads and leave us in peace?

And again for the record: It is not your place or your business to tell others how to live their sexlives and it is likewise not your place to tell clubs and women how to conduct their businesses! As you stated yourself below. Then why do you keep doing it? IMO, it is you who is the lost cause, especially since I don't recall reading any report about an actual visit to a club from you. But I have quite frankly no interest to go search for one.

Here are some places that you should like, since they are as eqally anti-AO militant as you are:

http://www.partytreff-me.de/

http://www.anjas-leidenschaften.de/

http://www.zhuzha.de/

Too bad that I wasted my 1500th post on this crap again.

Dreams
06-12-13, 20:54
- we're hear to discuss Bernds, the girls and the AO sex you can get…Indeed.

Can you please tell us exactly that: when you last went to Bernds, which girl (s) you had, what you did with her, and what you liked / disliked.

As far as I am concerned, I went there last March, had a wonderful session with Tina, was not offered AO by her, neither did I ask, and left happy.

We are all eagerly waiting for your ever first post reporting your experience with a Bernds' girl.

In the (unlikely?) case that you never had such an encounter, can you please leave this thread and let those familiart with Bernds discuss what you exactly said we should disucss?

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06-12-13, 22:04
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Rob Raunch
06-13-13, 20:34
Hmm. Could be because you're ugly. Are you ugly? I'm not saying you are.Please when you use the term scientific do it in a way not to insult all the people who really do good work for science.

When being asked a simple question like "have you been to that club yourself?" a simple answer would enlighten all and everything. Or maybe you allready answered that with " I've often read here how Bernds"

Instead the arguments used in this discussion are at least secondhand. And when asked a direct question you answer like "I did not say not to." All of the reports on this board are subjective, all the men are sexgods, nearly all the women have orgasms during sex with them (don't you think your scientific approach could have been built on quicksand or at least half-truths?)

Here are firsthand experiences from a regular at this club (myself) : The last nearly 8 years I have been going to Lichtenberg every 3 weeks and not a single (1) Girl offered me AO, that is a fact! (neither did I ask for it) The nearest I ever have come to an "offering of AO" is a girl who once in these 8 years asked me "I got no more condoms in my purse, should I get some from another girl?" and ofcourse I said "YES!" I don't even consider that an offering of AO because sometimes I just like to get only a BJ so she has the right to ask. (Please refrain from trying to prove your point in saying that I must be ugly. You have never met me. Nor have you met the girls in that club)

I have personally talked to the doctor that looks after the girls and makes his visit every 3rd week (a nice guy with a moustache). He is a professional so will not give any personal data but told me he was very pleased with how serious the Girls were concerning their health.

Saying that Bernds is an AO-club because "you can find AO there" is scientifically ridiculous. One can find AO in every club (only the price will differ!).

I could also write the opposite (true fact) : go to the room with Katja and ask her for AO. She will kick you out of the room for even considering she would do something like that (I would pay money to witness that!) I can give you the names of several girls that would be very insulted even by you only asking for AO. So, we are not talking of girls offering it but girls even turning you down when you offer money for it. Granted, some girls will probably take your offer (as in every sex-Club) depending on a lot of factors: amount of money, if you look clean and healthy, if you are a regular, how serious she needs the money, etcetc.

Saying that a club where you can find AO "is worse than a gangbang where all are tested" shows your lack of knowledge because the real nasty disease can only be tested positive 3 months after the infection. So what if I was infected last week. Also, please studie the pro and contra's of these so called "quick-self-tests" I know a lot of medical professionals, not ONE of them would say something positive about these tests.

So, if some Girls do AO, does that make a Club pro-AO? If some Girls kick your butt just for asking for AO, does that make a Club contra-AO?

Wake up and smell the roses:

Monger-public is a representation of society. I love to talk to fellow-visitors at Bernds because they come from all over the world from all walks of life. Girls come in all sizes (yesterday a new 18 year old girl started working) and with all kind of ethic-values (and some might even do AO!)

In that way is Bernds an "average"-club, no more no less.

Better than "average" is the atmosphere, the service of the girls, the way I can have GFE with nearly every single one of them (try that in another club in Germany) , the fact that in all these years I never once left this Club unhappy of what happened inside.

It is simple: Bernds is a club that you either love or hate.

I personally know of no better Club (for me!) but: "I am not saying that you should not go to any other club"-smile-

P. S. If you find a report of me "judging" Brazilian-clubs: please kick MY butt because I have never been there and would only judge on what others have written (others I probably never met personally)

Breadman
06-13-13, 23:14
The regulars say Bernds isn't a club that allows some of their girls to practice AO, other members (including myself) say it does happen. So is one group lying?

Lets look at the facts, Bernds has maybe on average 16 to 18 girls working everyday. And everytime I've visited I've never seen more than 20 guys at any given time. Can we agree on that? Just over a handful upstairs and downstairs and six in the room at any given time. The club opens at 1pm and there's really nobody arriving after 9pm. So I'm guessing at most 40 guys per day. Sound about right? Then we have guys like Dreams admitting he only saw one girl during his visit. So how do the other 15 girls make any money? They can't charge for CIM.

Argue all you want about how saintly the girls at Bernds are but the numbers don't add up, especially when I see guys paying 300 euro's or more on the way out the door.


I am sure that one can get AO in so called non-Ao clubs for an extra fee. Wheterh it is 1 in 3 or 1 in 100 is for me irrelevant sicee

Personally, I don't ask for AO in such clubs, and have not been offered it very often. In any case I decline, since I don't see the point to pay quite a lot of extra money for a service that I get for free in VV or assimilated clubs.

Interesting comment. I think some here will vouch for me that im neither pro nor con AO, it is what it is. I always wondered what girls at other clubs would think if you told them you frequented and practiced AO with working girls? Would they consider you a higher risk, possibly refuse you service? Im assuming Dreams here is saying he's getting AO at VV, at least the way he worded his post. What if Tina reads this board and remembers a guy who visited and only saw her and left? What consequences might there be of posting your AO reports and then having your handle found out?

Rob Raunch
06-14-13, 07:11
The regulars say Bernds isn't a club that allows some of their girls to practice AO, other members (including myself) say it does happen. So is one group lying?Objectively I would say that the regulars have the advantage because THEY have the experience at the club and some members here only repeat what others write without verifying it themselves. But the truth could be somewhere in the middle. But that does not mean we should put a sticker on a club or a sticker on all the girls as being an AO-club or an AO-girl. These kind of generalisations are very dangerous."In Africa the percentage of people having HIV is very high" does that make Africa and HIV-continent? Should we put a sticker on everybody there as having HIV?

I don't think so, I still go to Africa. But I use commonsense when it comes to contact with local people. That is what I would like to say: Make decisions with you brains, not your balls!


Argue all you want about how saintly the girls at Bernds are but the numbers don't add up, especially when I see guys paying 300 euro's or more on the way out the door.I am sorry Breadman but the fact that you think the girls do not make enough money there because they don't charge for extra's and there are "not enough men" does not make it an AO-club. Perhaps not all the men only do 1 room (I regularly stand next to a guy that even uses the back of his "scorecard". He only does threesomes, at least 5!). Looking in my own pocket: most of the time I spend about 250 to 300 for girls. I never do 30 minutes programs (my engine warms up slowly and why stop when I am having a lot of fun). How much do you spend at a club yourself? Also 50€? (probably not)


What consequences might there be of posting your AO reports and then having your handle found out?Do you ever consider the opposite? What if: a girl at Bernds categorically refuses to do AO (lets call her Anna) but a guy here who considers himself "The Stud" would simple write that he had AO-sex with her ("he did what no one else could do" because he is special). But Anna's boyfriend reads this comment and thinks it might be true. And Anna would have to defend herself during an argument at home because of this. OR the next guy comes up to her and asks for AO, she says NO and he makes a tantrum because on the internet it says she DOES AO. He even shows her the report from "The Stud" its on the internet so it must be true and now this "misserable girl" turns him down! ("because he is ugly?"-smile-)

I am not pro AO, I would consider myself a little contra AO (do not practise AO myself at all because of the health-issue) , but ultimately we are all adults with a responsability for our own health and well-being. Pointing fingers, putting labels and stickers on people has never brought us anything positive. Do you want to ban workinggirls offering AO? Make men stop asking for it and it will disappear (this will not happen in my lifetime I guess)

Dreams
06-14-13, 09:39
Then we have guys like Dreams admitting he only saw one girl during his visit. ?Just to qualify this: On that specific visit, I had very little time, but I made a point to visit, early pm, even for a short one session visit. The line out was not as good usual on that early afternoon. You usually do not have 15 girls at opening anyway.

Some months earlier, I spent the day there, and had 3 sessions (Angie, Suzanna, and Jenny). None offered AO and I did not ask (fact). The place was full all dy long. Did not count the number of punters, but surely enough to make money for everyone.

Dreams
06-14-13, 09:45
. I always wondered what girls at other clubs would think if you told them you frequented and practiced AO with working girls? Would they consider you a higher risk, possibly refuse you service? Im assuming Dreams here is saying he's getting AO at VV, at least the way he worded his post. What if Tina reads this board and remembers a guy who visited and only saw her and left? What consequences might there be of posting your AO reports and then having your handle found out?I don't think girls are as naive as you seem to believe.

How on earth can a WG think that her clients are all "clean"? And how can she be fooled that an apparently nice, young, clean guy has not fucked BB just a day before, be it with his Gf, or during a one night stand or else?

In any case, whether I had fucked BB or not the day before, is irrelevant as long as we are covered for thsi one. Everyone does BBBJ, and very often CIM as well, there lie the risks, for everyone, AO or not.

My 2 cents.

Excess
06-14-13, 10:34
Perhaps one final word from me at least on this.

A thread that purports to list FKK`s or indeed other clubs where AO "might be" available from some girls in clubs that are not advertised as being AO or indeed where AO is not part of the regular posted offering is useless and not accurate.

There are problably no clubs in which AO is not available between a willing buyer and a willing seller. It is done through direct negotiation between the parties either before or during room time. The Clubs at which this takes place have no actual knowledge and therefore interest in the transactions as they are not involved or recompensed for them. Some clubs profess to take action against girls who provide AO. As a standard offer, yes . As a service for select regular clients who are not interested in publicity or non regulars who offer sufficient financial reward and the girl is interested. No.

AO is available in any non AO club at most any time from girls who wish to do so with an incentive of extra cash.

The only questions remaining are which girls on that day are willing to provide AO following their inspection and milking up front of your dick and does your dick appear clean as does the rest of your person, and for how much €. Again, in any club on just about any day.

If there is a demand it will be fulfilled at a price.

Thus, the only relevent threads and discussions are AO clubs and non AO clubs. What happens in the rooms can be quite another matter.

With up to € 500 AO walking around money in any club one would wish to list as being non AO, AO sessions will be assured if that is your thing.

Enjoy.

E.

Indi Companion
06-14-13, 11:08
The regulars say Bernds isn't a club that allows some of their girls to practice AO, other members (including myself) say it does happen. So is one group lying?Very reasonable words Breadman.

I also present you with a surprise: of the two categories you mention, the one who is in MY OPINION lying is the first one and I tell you this because I am part of the third category you didn't mention for kindness: regular clients who say the truth.

I am a regular client at Bernds, all girls know who I am because of a singularity of myself (not phisical, I am a normal average looking guy) , even if I do not go every 3 weeks but every 2/3 months.

There are always been two exceptioms at Bernds to whom better not to ask AO, Katja and Anna.

I have been with almost all the other girls coming in and out of the club over the last 5 years and I have been discussing the topic with my regulars and friends there, I am talking about girls who offered also to spend the night with me, who I know well and keep in contact with.

It is a matter of fact, Bernds is a club where AO is available and sometimes directly offered by almost all girls.

It costs 50€ extra and it is registered as one more room. That's why Breadman you see men paying 300 or 500€.

For certain it depends totally on the girl to do it or not with each single customer. There are girls who, if not requested, do not mention it and go for the condom automatically (Magda or Dana have always been like that) ; there are girls exactly the opposite, if you do not say anything they go directly for AO (Erika has always been like this, still remember one morning seeing her fucking AO on a sofa upstairs in front of Conny) ; there are girls who request you what you want (in this category has always fallen Susy). As said, any girl can refuse it.

But it is very well known the fact that there are even girls who are famous for practicing AO anal.

So, it simply a matter of fact what I wrote above, and this is why I also put the names of the girls, because anyone who goes there regularly knows that. I can understand that some regulars of the club would most likely prefer to keep the secret, but it has never been a secret!

I still remember discussing with Dana and Alina which girls were recommendable if I wanted AO.

I really think it is time that all this bs about Bernds (which is one of my belovest clubs ever, for the atmosphere and amicable feeling to be along a family that I have there first, second for the amazing level of GFE services you can get there) comes to an end. It has never been a secret what does happen there, maybe it is time to simply make it clear, AO has always been on the menu in Bernds. As in any other AO club the girls can however refuse a service or a client and there are a very few girls who do not have this service on their menu, that'sall.

Obviously, I exepect that someone now will say that maybe I am simply lucky that there I could have AO for 50€ from every girl! For sure I am not Brad Pitt! LOL!

Dreams
06-14-13, 11:44
Very reasonable words Breadman.

I also present you with a surprise: of the two categories you mention, the one who is in MY OPINION lying is the first one and I tell you this because I am part of the third category you didn't mention for kindness: regular clients who say the truth.

I am a regular client at Bernds, all girls know who I am because of a singularity of myself (not phisical, I am a normal average looking guy) , even if I do not go every 3 weeks but every 2/3 months.

There are always been two exceptioms at Bernds to whom better not to ask AO, Katja and Anna.

I have been with almost all the other girls coming in and out of the club over the last 5 years and I have been discussing the topic with my regulars and friends there, I am talking about girls who offered also to spend the night with me, who I know well and keep in contact with.

It is a matter of fact, Bernds is a club where AO is available and sometimes directly offered by almost all girls.

It costs 50€ extra and it is registered as one more room. That's why Breadman you see men paying 300 or 500€.

For certain it depends totally on the girl to do it or not with each single customer. There are girls who, if not requested, do not mention it and go for the condom automatically (Magda or Dana have always been like that) ; there are girls exactly the opposite, if you do not say anything they go directly for AO (Erika has always been like this, still remember one morning seeing her fucking AO on a sofa upstairs in front of Conny) ; there are girls who request you what you want (in this category has always fallen Susy). As said, any girl can refuse it.

But it is very well known the fact that there are even girls who are famous for practicing AO anal.

So, it simply a matter of fact what I wrote above, and this is why I also put the names of the girls, because anyone who goes there regularly knows that. I can understand that some regulars of the club would most likely prefer to keep the secret, but it has never been a secret!

I still remember discussing with Dana and Alina which girls were recommendable if I wanted AO.

I really think it is time that all this bs about Bernds (which is one of my belovest clubs ever, for the atmosphere and amicable feeling to be along a family that I have there first, second for the amazing level of GFE services you can get there) comes to an end. It has never been a secret what does happen there, maybe it is time to simply make it clear, AO has always been on the menu in Bernds. As in any other AO club the girls can however refuse a service or a client and there are a very few girls who do not have this service on their menu, that'sall.

Obviously, I exepect that someone now will say that maybe I am simply lucky that there I could have AO for 50€ from every girl! For sure I am not Brad Pitt! LOL!Quite simply, the reasons why you have been offered AO as often as you say, and I have not is that you are a regular, therefore know the girls, probably speak german (guessing here.) etc. And the reason I don't get the offer, is that I hardly go once or twice a year, and the girls don't know me.

Ah, well, I forgot, Iam also "ugly"!

My "argument" with Breadman is that what you describe at Bernds, would happen similarly in other so called non-AO clubs. Otherwise, no argument.

Indi Companion
06-14-13, 12:01
Quite simply, the reasons why you have been offered AO as often as you say, and I have not is that you are a regular, therefore know the girls, probably speak german (guessing here.) etc. And the reason I don't get the offer, is that I hardly go once or twice a year, and the girls don't know me.

Ah, well, I forgot, Iam also "ugly"!

My "argument" with Breadman is that what you describe at Bernds, would happen similarly in other so called non-AO clubs. Otherwise, no argument.Agreed.

Just for your info if you should be interested in it, once I brought a friend there who was there first time and never came back. He simply asked the girls for the service and he got from 3 girls out of 4.

Bernds is an AO clubs, and it always was but for some reasons they do not advertise it.

Non-AO clubs, from my point of view, are different and, even if it may happen AO there, it is something kept as a secret and not easily available upon simple request and for a fix price as a normal extra. These aspects make me say that Bernds is an AO club (service available upon request and for a fix price not to be discussed and agreed upon with each girl) and, for example, Golden Time is a non-AO club (service not on the menu and if available or offered price may vary from girl to girl and has to be negotiated.).

Last but not least, in Bernds I never did AO because, as I explained to my friends, I do not like first to do it with someone who does it normally and with anyone and second for a psycological thing of mine, I find it too personal and therefore I do not pay an extra for it. I know it sounds stupid but can't do anything about it!

Breadman
06-15-13, 20:22
There are always been two exceptioms at Bernds to whom better not to ask AO, Katja and Anna.What about Mara? I've always gotten shot down by her.

Bukudala
06-16-13, 01:14
What about Mara? I've always gotten shot down by her.And what about Magda for AO? If I were to partake. She's the one!

Cheers

Boomer10
06-16-13, 02:51
So I'm guessing at most 40 guys per day. Sound about right? Then we have guys like Dreams admitting he only saw one girl during his visit. So how do the other 15 girls make any money? They can't charge for CIM.Over the past 6 years I've visited Bernds about 50 times. I haven't kept count but 40 guests seems low to me. Where did you get your numbers? I suspect they are what, when I was in the military, would have been called a Wild A$$ Guess (WAG). I could be wrong but I'm guessin' that it's probably not a SWAG (a Scientific Wild A$$ Guess) either.

"So how do the other 15 girls make any money?" So let's use my WAG of 60 and split the difference. 50/18, that's about 2. 8 guests per available woman. Let's round that to 3. For argument's sake, assume no AO. So how many sessions are actually multi half hour session and not the reported AO pricing of 1 + 1? My WAG is about half. So if this is true, that would put the daily take of the average woman at between 200E and 250E a day minus expenses. Not a fortune but probably better than working fast food. Throw in party days and discount admission days and Fridays (all of which in my experience tend to be significantly busier that average) , overall take home could be pretty good.

So what does this prove? Not a thing. It's all base on speculation (just to be clear: made up numbers-I just happen to think my numbers are closer to being correct and my silly calculations are closer to the truth) with the purpose of either supporting or shooting down this ridiculous discussion.


Argue all you want about how saintly the girls at Bernds are but the numbers don't add up, especially when I see guys paying 300 euro's or more on the way out the door.I don't recall anyone else using the term saint. While I've never been offered or asked about AO, I would be surprised if there was a total lack of it. From what I've read, this seems to be the position in the majority of posts that don't agree with you and Woofiee.

So what does any of this mean to me? The behavior of the men and women at Bernd's isn't any different from the behavior at other clubs. And I happen to prefer Bernd's for its small size, tacky decor, and somewhat on average older but more skilled women (this is just my opinion, I don't speak for anyone else).


What about Mara? I've always gotten shot down by her.To kinda borrow a recent movie title, if Mara is an AO princess, maybe "she's just not into you".

Breadman
06-16-13, 06:05
that would put the daily take of the average woman at between 200E and 250E a day minus expenses. Not a fortune but probably better than working fast fooddon't forget they have to pay the tax man and their admission. 50 goes to the tax man and a minimum of 50 for admission every day (its usually double what the guys pay) , leaving these girls 100 to 150E a day (maybe even less). Not alot of cash for sitting around naked for a 10 hour shift. The fact of the matter is not all girls can make the same as the top talent.

Seven or eight years back, they had a nice lineup. Some nice lookers and the service was fantastic (the basic non ao service. Every year after it seemed they were losing some of their talent and the replacements that I liked didn't hang around too long. Have to wonder if half the girls offering AO caused some of the departures. What's amazing is how I found out about this extra service, it was from clubs around the area from the girls. The girls would tell me every time I mentioned which clubs I visited that the girls fucked without condoms at Bernds.


From what I've read, this seems to be the position in the majority of posts that don't agree with you and Woofiee.

I've been saying this for the last couple of years now, this has nothing to do with what Woofie's been talking about. Think you'll find I said the same thing a year or so back and Dreams (and others) came to Bernds defense. So far its myself, Indi Companion and Hessen Bud saying Bernds is known for their AO service. Even Dreams seems to have accepted the reality.

Boomer10
06-16-13, 08:19
don't forget they have to pay the tax man and their admission. 50 goes to the tax man and a minimum of 50 for admission every day (its usually double what the guys pay) , leaving these girls 100 to 150E a day (maybe even less). Not alot of cash for sitting around naked for a 10 hour shift. The fact of the matter is not all girls can make the same as the top talent.Where did the numbers come from? If I wasn't clear before, I made them up just like you. I don't know what the take home from working at Bernds is anymore than you do. I listen to what the girls say and I think I some idea but the truth is that I don't know and unless you're the SO of one of the girls, you don't know either. Top talent in any field will usually make more money. Drew Brees makes more than Blaine Gabbert. It's the way a capitalist economy works.

Great Spirit, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, The courage to change the things I can, And wisdom to know the difference.

This discussion has been a waste. It has gone past that point for me, it's foolish for me to continue and I no longer choose to be foolish, at least in regard to this waste of bandwidth. Have a happy life and thanks for the Schwab debit card suggestion.

Dreams
06-16-13, 10:39
Even Dreams seems to have accepted the reality.Never denied that AO can be obtained in Bernds. Just said, and still think that it can similarly be gotten from other FKKs that you like more, . Just reiterating that suggesting that other big FKKs are "safer" because they do not offer AO is not only false, but a dangerous thing to say.

I still don't understand why you have focused on Bernds on that point, but never mind, I think that it is time to close on this discussion and get more info on girls and experience. W-something has wisely decided to leave, it seems, so people who have really been there can repossess this thread.

Hessen Bub
06-16-13, 12:58
There's one significant difference between Bernd's and Oase (or Palace, World, Sharks etc.) : At Bernd's you can ask a girl about AO and she will either just say no or she will do it for 50 EUR extra. You can ask without the risk of being outed as a BB fucker or being yelled at or being reported to management or thrown out of the club. At Oase etc. Asking openly for AO will cause you problems.

That is because at Bernd's AO is (in) officially on the menu for a standard price. Not all girls will do it. This is not the case at other FKKs where AO still is banned.

HB

Rob Raunch
06-16-13, 13:11
don't forget they have to pay the tax man and their admission. 50 goes to the tax man and a minimum of 50 for admission every day (its usually double what the guys pay)I checked that fact with a girl that works at that club (a simple textmessage is all it took). So I got the info firsthand: the WG pay 40 for the total. Entrance AND tax (it about 20-20). So my dear Breadman your estimations start of with a 60% error! (and it seems that the girls you talked to in other clubs that pay a 100 are getting ripped-of by someone!)

In general: getting information from the competition (in this case girls that work at other clubs) should at the very least be considered suspicious. Probably 90% of the girls who talk about this club while working somewhere else A) have not been there themselves (and are just repeating rumours) B) were there for 2 days and left (because: they did not earn enough money? Or did not fit in the team? Wanted fast money and did not want to invest the time to get regulars. But as it always is in every business: it certainly was not their own fault!). Both groups (A and B) are not a very credible source for reliable info's. Your bold conclusions my dear Breadman could have been built on quicksand (spekulations and half-truths).

It seems that a lot of people make bold statements allthough they have not been there or do not know the real facts. Some of the facts that were used in this usesless discussion are plain wrong or underminned by the people themselfs (please "Indi" with all respect do not get me wrong but you write as being an expert in AO at Bernds and "being able to get it from every girl", but you also write that "you never have used this service at Bernds because you find it to personal to pay extra for it" huhh?)

Statements can be split up in two categories: objective and subjective. Objective, true fact: the girls pay 40€ per day. Subjective: I think Tina is a very hot girl (beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but you have to be blind not to see this. '-smile-') Objective: you can get AO at Bernds like in every other club (depending on how much you are willing to pay) , but not every girl will provide this service and certainly not to every man (like in every other club). Subjective: the club is to far away from a city-center to travel to it (on german forums locals complain that they have to drive lets say 40km to get to Bernds, they consider it to much. Most of us at ISG have to fly 1000's of km to get to a german club and think it is okay). Etcetc.

Like I wrote earlier "Bernds is a Club you either hate or love". I agree with Yakob on one thing: Live and let Live. Putting labels on people (or groups of people) , in this case AO or non-AO, has never led to good things (history shows many examples of that).99% of us use double standards when it comes to sex. Just one example: we love French kissing and we love BBBJ but we do not like to kiss a girl who half an hour ago did a BBBJ on someone else (me included) what are the consequences of that? Do we stop BBBJ or do we stop French kissing? We all make our own choices and all have to live with the consequences of these choices.

Personally I never ever once did AO there (neither in any other club) and had a few of the most terrific sessions of my life (with Magda, Nataly, Leila, Anna, Princes 'Oh, dear memories', Tina)

Thinking of Tina and Magda makes me wish I could go there tommorrow but I was there last week and have to wait 2 more weeks for my next therapy-sessions (Magda is on holiday next week so no harm done).

HAVE FUN my fellow mongers

Silikon
06-16-13, 14:35
There's one significant difference between Bernd's and Oase (or Palace, World, Sharks etc.) : At Bernd's you can ask a girl about AO and she will either just say no or she will do it for 50 EUR extra. You can ask without the risk of being outed as a BB fucker or being yelled at or being reported to management or thrown out of the club. At Oase etc. Asking openly for AO will cause you problems.

HBI was at Oase this week and OPENLY asked for sex without condom, to 1 girl before going to the room, she said no, but agreed to go with me anyway, without problem. Another one said no too (had a room with her anyway) , but said to me that "many" girls at Oase do it without (and from her point of view, they all do it cause they're sick. Her point of view).

Was at Sharks too and openly asked for AO, girl said no but once again I had absolutely no problem at all like being yelled, reported to management or thrown out of the club.

That AO taboo in normal FKKs is just a pure joke. Everybody, customers, girls, management staff, know that some girls (more and more girls) do it.

Captain Dan's Alises
06-16-13, 16:18
I do think that you guys should walk away from this discussion because I believe that there is no complete right and no complete wrong on either side. So nobody is going to win this never-ending argument.

My overall opinion is that FKK Bernd's is an institution and the forerunner of many FKK clubs and those who are regular visitors and fans of FKK Bernd's should be left in peace to post reports about this club. The club is not everyone's cup of tea for many reasons (poor and cramped facilities, primarily caters for regulars / locals, does not have an outstanding lineup) but I can understand why this club is an attraction for others (good level of service from the girls, friendly atmosphere).

In fairness I would have to say that those who claim that bareback (A0) sex is readily available in Bernd's (more so than in the Big NRW & Hessen FKK clubs) are definitely not mistaken and are in my opinion correct.

However, saying that I also respect the fact that if this particular A0 service is on offer it is done so in a relatively discrete manner and is not used as a draw by this club. I definitely think that this is a correct approach and lifts Bernd's above some of the more seedier, grimmer and heavily pimped clubs that readily advertise bareback sex.

The joint is an institution and it is good that it still remains in business and honourably represented in the Germany FKK Section. It is easy to understand why members vigorously defend this FKK institution and also easy to understand why other members believe that extra services are readily available at this club. Lets just all walk away from this disagreement with heads held high. We are all aficionados of the FKK / Sauna Club scene and we should remember that we have this hobby in common. We should treat fellow Germany FKK Club members with respect (as much as possible). Lets leave the guys enjoy the Bernd's thread in peace and in return perhaps some of us can try to understand why there is a perception that extra services are more readily available in Bernd's. This is a disagreement not really worth pursuing by anyone. In my opinion there are bigger battles to come. Lets walk away from this one with honour on both sides.

Indi Companion
06-16-13, 16:20
What about Mara? I've always gotten shot down by her.Mara falls in the same cateogry of Magda. She does but not automatically and usually with hermore regular clients. Still, she has it on the menu. Maybe you do not go there enough often to be a regular of her. As per myself I think I was with her only once and doing a double session with Dana, I still rather prefer shaved girls.

Indi Companion
06-16-13, 16:29
I've been saying this for the last couple of years now, this has nothing to do with what Woofie's been talking about. Think you'll find I said the same thing a year or so back and Dreams (and others) came to Bernds defense. So far its myself, Indi Companion and Hessen Bud saying Bernds is known for their AO service. Even Dreams seems to have accepted the reality.It is the reality. It is simply not possible that if you are there regularly you never experience the fact that AO is on the menu. To a friend of mine it simply happened what happens with the second category of girls I listed. The girl he was with in the room, in the middle of the battle, she simply sticked his dick into her anus without condom.

My dear Breadman, maybe you hit the point with your analyse. Everytime the topic is brought up, the many regulars immediatly act to cover up and deny it. If you notice and look back, when they do this they always mention the same: go to Katja or Anna and see what happens if you ask for AO. But these are the only two girls who have always been very well known for refusing it. They did not tell you ever, go to Erika, Sandy, Susy, Dana, Leonie, Magda, etc.... they would never take the risk someone may go to the club and really ask to these girls, because they know the answer the customer would most likely hear....

I developed over the years the thought that it is simply a bad attempt to keep the secrect just for themself and not let it be known to others. Otherwise the club would rapidly fill up and they could no longer enjoy that feeling of being the only keepers of a secret. No idea otherwise for not saying how it is and how it is known to every regular visitor. As you said, also HB confirmed what I said. That's all and the truth.
Moreover, I know some ex and current members who are well aware of how it works in Bernds and who enjoy that particular service. I still remember one of them, one winter of a couple of years ago coming in Bernds for the first time and after 10 minutes he went to Babsy and plainly told her that he was looking for the "double B service". Guess what? She was more than happy to oblige...this is only an example.

Breadman
06-16-13, 19:59
Never denied that AO can be obtained in Bernds. Just said, and still think that it can similarly be gotten from other FKKs that you like more, . Just reiterating that suggesting that other big FKKs are "safer" because they do not offer AO is not only false, but a dangerous thing to say.

I still don't understand why you have focused on Bernds on that point, but never mind, I think that it is time to close on this discussion and get more info on girls and experience. W-something has wisely decided to leave, it seems, so people who have really been there can repossess this thread.So no matter what's said on the subject, who says anything to back up the reports your going to continue on with this statement that Bernds is just like any other FKK club. I'm sorry, its not. AO is readily available here from most of the girls. The GFE service is fantastic, not only is cim included but most of the girls offer bareback at a set price. But I understand. For years I was the same way, not reporting on it so as not to cause problems. But then AO started to be reported at other clubs so its time to let the cat out of the bag.


Mara falls in the same cateogry of Magda. She does but not automatically and usually with hermore regular clients. Still, she has it on the menu. Maybe you do not go there enough often to be a regular of her. As per myself I think I was with her only once and doing a double session with Dana, I still rather prefer shaved girls.No, its probably my fault. I got shot down twice by her so assumed it wasn't on the menu. Never asked after those put downs.

Ladiesfan
06-17-13, 07:05
I was there about two years ago and was offered bb-session by a girl called Angie. Don't know if she's still in the Sauna. The other one I had a session with was Katja but it was covered penetretion.

I would recognise Angie and Katja again however I'm not sure I would manage to do the same with Mara, Erika, Sandy, Susy, Dana, Leonie, Magda etc. Are there any pics of the on the net. I'm pretty sure I spoke with most of them. But hey; it was all at least two years ago *LOL.

Dreams
06-17-13, 10:22
So no matter what's said on the subject, who says anything to back up the reports your going to continue on with this statement that Bernds is just like any other FKK club.
See Silikon's post, just a few posts below.

But yes, you are right, we both are not going to change opinions, so we can stop here and agree to disagree.

Indi Companion
06-17-13, 11:06
(please "Indi" with all respect do not get me wrong but you write as being an expert in AO at Bernds and "being able to get it from every girl", but you also write that "you never have used this service at Bernds because you find it to personal to pay extra for it" huhh?)That's the typical dismissive and paternalistic attitude used since many years everytime the issue of AO in Bernds has been brought up, Breadman and I have been writing about it. Thanks for providing such clear example!

I will never understand you guys, why you have this attitude. However, as per your dismissing sentence, I think it is evident for everyone that You do not need to do AO in order to be able to assess if this is a service normally on the menu. It is enough you are a regular (I am) , to know personally and since many years some of the regular girls there (I do) and being able to properly speak German and have a conversation with the girls about it (I do) as well as it is enough you go in the room with some of the girls I mentioned and experience the fact that they simply either go fo AO and you have to stop them (as I did many times) or experience the fact that when you move for the sexual act many girls simply ask you if you want a condom or not.

If this is not sufficient, just wait for one day when the club is a bit more crowded and you will see that happening also on the sofa. Of course, this latter case is available only for people who have eyes still working.

So Rob Raunch, I ask you "please" not to think to be the only one defendant of the true faith as well as not to treat someone who has been quite a few around as a fool. The more you will act this way the less you will get to where you want. Pandora's vase is definetely open, better like this as far as the object of this forum is concerned: "to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex".

Which brings to the fact that sometimes a bit of respect for others opinion and information may be appreciated, even if your experience has been different and I am happy with that, appreciate and respect your experience, mine has simply been different and I think I am free to report it.

Excess
06-17-13, 11:15
[QUOTE=Breadman; 1435021]So no matter what's said on the subject, who says anything to back up the reports your going to continue on with this statement that Bernds is just like any other FKK club.

QUOTE]

See Silikon's post, just a few posts below.

But yes, you are right, we both are not going to change opinions, so we can stop here and agree to disagree.Different opinions from well respected members. The essence of mongering and life to say nothing of ISG.

Right up there with the same girl being "for me a 10, for you a 6". Certainly has brought the Bernd`s thread to life and another example of you either love it or not for many reasons.

As a wise scribbler said 400 years ago,"If music be the food of love, play on; Give me excess of it.", only to be echoed more recently by the great Madonna,"Some girls can do anything."

Simply to add "Some girls and some Mongers can do anything." Thank goodness.

E.

Rob Raunch
06-17-13, 15:48
Which brings to the fact that sometimes a bit of respect for others opinion and information may be appreciated, even if your experience has been different and I am happy with that, appreciate and respect your experience, mine has simply been different and I think I am free to report it.Dear Indi.

Your missing my point completly.

First of all I wrote "with respect." this means I am not being dissmisive it means I think that you are entitled to your own opinion but why write that you never used the service you describe so in detail? Same goes for Breadman who makes bold statements (and drawing big conlusions from it) about what the girls are paying for entrance fees and taxes only to miss the factual figure by 150% (it IS 40 and he made his preassumtions on 100€).

I am sure there is no secret-plan to keep your AO-facts a secret (but there is also not a plan to advertise Bernds as an AO-club otherwise management would have done so I think). I have NEVER said "there is no AO in Bernds" (please read). I wrote multiple times "there is AO at Bernds, but you can also get it in GT, PHG, Samya, Residenz, Magnum, etcetc)."Pandora's Box" has never been closed in this aspect. But by labeling Bernds as an AO-Club (or all the girls as AO-girls) people would go there with expectations like they would go to La Luna in Moers for instance. That is not correct.

Our difference is that I am sure that people do not want a sticker on their forehead as being a AO-girl or an AO-club. People do not like to be put into boxes with a label on it. It creates prejudice and expectations, it limits their choices and options (discrimination can be based on more things than skincolor).

I never had to stop a girl who wanted to do AO by herself in the club and because the girl wants to charge you extra for this service she will have to ask you if it is okay (otherwise you could say that you did not conscent and don't want to pay for the extra). In other clubs when a girl gives me a BBBJ and takes my cum in her mouth on her own initiative without telling me it is extra. I would give her a hard time getting the extra money from me. Please do not take this the wrong way but do you see what I mean?

I would also have made the same effort if you would have written "Bernds is a 60+-Club. For men older than 60-" or "Bernds is a Alcohol-Club. For people who drink alcohol" because I would have said "you see men over 60 in EVERY club and you also see younger men at Bernds" or "you can get alcohol in nearly every club and not ALL visiting men at Bernds drink alcohol". Hell, I would also speak-up if you wrote "Babylon is a midget-Club, for people und 1, 40m" or "Acapulco is a cheapo-Club, for people who don't want to spend more then 25€ on entrance" (JUST KIDDING!)

People simply get the wrong impression and / or the wrong expectations. (that's why I titled my former report "many shades of gray")

Am I not free to report my experiences and give my opinions to? (As a native German speaker who goes to that club very regularly and also knows all the girls? Like you do)

Viel Spass, RR

Indi Companion
06-17-13, 17:33
Dear Indi.

Your missing my point completly.

First of all I wrote "with respect." this means I am not being dissmisive it means I think that you are entitled to your own opinion but why write that you never used the service you describe so in detail?Where is written that you need to actually make use of a service to be sure it is available? If I say there is a sauna in the club, to be a sure and true statement I do not need to use it.

However, I think I explained myself more than enough on this point.


Same goes for Breadman who makes bold statements (and drawing big conlusions from it) about what the girls are paying for entrance fees and taxes only to miss the factual figure by 150% (it IS 40 and he made his preassumtions on 100€).I am not Breadman and I didn't talk about how much do the girls earn or pay to the club.


I am sure there is no secret-plan to keep your AO-facts a secret (but there is also not a plan to advertise Bernds as an AO-club otherwise management would have done so I think). I have NEVER said "there is no AO in Bernds" (please read). I wrote multiple times "there is AO at Bernds, but you can also get it in GT, PHG, Samya, Residenz, Magnum, etcetc)."Pandora's Box" has never been closed in this aspect. But by labeling Bernds as an AO-Club (or all the girls as AO-girls) people would go there with expectations like they would go to La Luna in Moers for instance. That is not correct.I can only agree with what also HB wrote, which is exactly coincident with what I think and what is my experience in clubs.

It is not correct to say that a club is an AO club only if it advertises the service to the public. A club is an AO club if the service is on the menu, for a fix price (not to be negotiated each time) and if you can talk about it and ask for it without any question from the girls.

Also in well advertised AO clubs there are girls who do not provide that service, exactly as it happens in Bernds.

Also in well advertised AO clubs you can always ask for a condom, if you want, exactly as it happens in Bernds.

Last but not least, by way of example, why DVR is by all considered an AO club if this service is not publicly advertised? If we should apply your theory, then DVR is not an AO club simply because it is not advertised?

Or better, as far as AO can be obtained on a one to one negotiation and for variable prices in any club, then every club is an AO club?

I stick to HB point of view which I share and seems to me the only reasonable one. An AO club is the one where this service is available and can be found for a fix and agreed price, advertised or not. Therefore, Bernds is an AO club and always was.

All this said, I also wish you Viel Spass and see you in Bernds. Even if on opposite sides of this ideological approach to AO definition, I will be happy to share our stories about the great girls of Bernds!

Happy mongering and as Dreams said, sometimes we can only agree to disagree! LOL!

Peace and nothing of this is personal, I like as a matter of fact, to have a good discussion from time to time!

Hessen Bub
06-17-13, 19:25
Actually I never had BB sex at Bernd's.

HB

Bennie75
06-18-13, 17:11
Thinking of Tina and Magda makes me wish I could go there tommorrow but I was there last week and have to wait 2 more weeks for my next therapy-sessions (Magda is on holiday next week so no harm done).

HAVE FUN my fellow mongersDear Rob,

Last Friday (14th of June) I was at Bernds and Magda was saying she would be on holiday for about 4 weeks.

The best would be to call Bernds and ask if she is there.

Sorry to do it this way but I can't send private messages.

Bennie75

Bennie75
06-18-13, 17:15
Thinking of Tina and Magda makes me wish I could go there tommorrow but I was there last week and have to wait 2 more weeks for my next therapy-sessions (Magda is on holiday next week so no harm done).

HAVE FUN my fellow mongersDear Rob,

Sorry to tell you but Magda told me last Friday (14th of June) that she was going on holiday for around 4 weeks.

Best would be to inform at Bernds if she is available.

Sorry to do this this way but I can't send private messages.

Bennie75

Breadman
06-18-13, 20:38
A club is an AO club if the service is on the menu, for a fix price (not to be negotiated each time) and if you can talk about it and ask for it without any question from the girls.I'll agree to that definition. The difference between Bernds and other Fkk clubs is girl who do AO and are caught are usually fired. Bernds management has to know AO is going on under their roof since many of the AO girls have to be working well over the amount of 'room visits' that any girl can possibly work in one day (since they add on another half hour for every half hour of AO). I truely understand regulars flocking to the thread to defend their favorite club. I don't understand why AO seekers would question reports of AO activity.

Breadman
06-19-13, 14:16
Explain to me how "a girl who do AO can be "caught". Cameras in the room? Denunciation?

Cheers.

PS: I am not defending Bernds more than it deserves.Its really simple, the girls write their names down on the sheet and all the money is handed to the person in charge (not the girls themselves). At the end of the night the money is then dolled out to each girl. How many half hour room visits are in each 12 hour shift? The answer is 24. What's the maximum amount of room visits then a busy girl can conceivably work? 20 with a few breaks? So if a very popular girl who happens to be providing AO to a majority of her customers is getting paid well over 20 room visits, I'm pretty sure the management knows what she's doing and might even be taking a cut of her excess earnings.

I'd also suggest those trying to 'defend' Bernds tread carefully. AO comments are allowed under board rules and those attacking other members who make AO posts will be reported. Cheers.


No Safe Sex Complaints Forum Members wishing to criticize other Members for not following what they consider to be safe sex procedures may do so only in the Safe Sex Thread. Members may not comment upon, criticize or confront other members on this subject in the general discussion threads. Any such "safe sex complaints" posted in the general discussion threads will be deleted without comment.

Free Dude
06-19-13, 16:32
The last I heard, on one of the real message boards, the number of girls providing AO at Bernds is going down. This frequent visitor claimed about 50%, down from around 90% some years ago.

I still maintain any club that doesn't put up 'signs' claiming AO, or has girls ask this question explicitly before each room (unless they don't even bother asking and just assume AO) should be considered a non-ao club. I've been to both kinds and there is quite a difference; it is very possible to be a semi regular in Bernds and not know AO is available, unlike clubs like VV, Arabella, etc.

Rob Raunch
06-20-13, 19:43
Its really simple, the girls write their names down on the sheet and all the money is handed to the person in charge (not the girls themselves). At the end of the night the money is then dolled out to each girl. How many half hour room visits are in each 12 hour shift? The answer is 24.Factually untrue my dear Breadman! Once again drawing big conclusions from erronious facts. It shows you are talking about things you do not know.

A) since more than nearly two years the money is not handed to anyone other than the girls. When they are "temporarily unavailable" the money is put into their own deposit-boxes (every girl has one with their name on it, you can see these boxes as you come in.) Management has nothing to do with this.

B) it is very well possible to make more programs than hours in a day. By doing anal. (which is an extra that is charged as half an hour). Or by going to the room with multiple men (I saw Erica go to the room with 3 guys once. One hour. Six programs!)

I am sure that when clubs start sendng away Girls they suspect of doing certain things in the privacy of a room, there would be a lot of women travelling from club to club.

Just setting the facts straight, other mongers could think what you write is the absolut truth (and sometimes it is not)

Raunchy Rob

Universo Fkk
06-24-13, 10:06
In my opinion Bernd's can't and should not be considered an AO club. I explain shortly the reason for that: I spoke about that with the management of the club, who told me clearly they advise girls for safe sex and they don't encourage the AO practise; however girls are not forbidden by the club about having AO sex, but it's their choice.

However, I'm not a regular of the club and I'm never been offered by a girl for sex without condom.

I ask just an information: does anyone know in which kind of girls Tina falls? It doesn't seem to me she agrees for sex without condom, but it's just a my impression.

Indi Companion
06-24-13, 10:54
Factually untrue my dear Breadman! Once again drawing big conclusions from erronious facts. It shows you are talking about things you do not know.

A) since more than nearly two years the money is not handed to anyone other than the girls. When they are "temporarily unavailable" the money is put into their own deposit-boxes (every girl has one with their name on it, you can see these boxes as you come in.) Management has nothing to do with this.

B) it is very well possible to make more programs than hours in a day. By doing anal. (which is an extra that is charged as half an hour). Or by going to the room with multiple men (I saw Erica go to the room with 3 guys once. One hour. Six programs!)

Raunchy RobBoth pints are true as described by RR. Since 2012 in Bernds you do not pay anymore the Theke but the girls. And if the girls are not available when you leave the club, Theke puts the money away for them.

Maybe, Breadman, being as I am and staying there all day long till closing never experienced the change of habit in paying directly the girls if the girls he did already left the club before closing time.

It is also true that girls may do extra money with anal and this happens as far as girls like Jakie simply loves that practice.

Indi Companion
06-24-13, 10:56
The last I heard, on one of the real message boards, the number of girls providing AO at Bernds is going down. This frequent visitor claimed about 50, down from around 90% some years ago.

I still maintain any club that doesn't put up 'signs' claiming AO, or has girls ask this question explicitly before each room (unless they don't even bother asking and just assume AO) should be considered a non-ao club. I've been to both kinds and there is quite a difference; it is very possible to be a semi regular in Bernds and not know AO is available, unlike clubs like VV, Arabella, etc.FD, currently I would say that at Bernds 50/60% of girls provide the service, an other 20% provides it to regulars. This is based on girls' interview.

Forcharles
06-25-13, 06:32
I ask just an information: does anyone know in which kind of girls Tina falls? It doesn't seem to me she agrees for sex without condom, but it's just a my impression.My experience with Tina is that she does not offer AO. But I've always had excellent times with her.

George Bickham
06-30-13, 07:28
Hi there,

Does anyone know if Tina and Nathalie do anal? And if they do, do they enjoy it or just do it 'for the money'

Thanks

Rob Raunch
07-04-13, 16:28
Sorry to tell you but Magda told me last Friday (14th of June) that she was going on holiday for around 4 weeks.

Bennie75Hi Bennie75,

Magda is back on duty from her vacation (even with more energy than ever!). Confirmed by a very good friend of mine who was at the Club yesterday.

Time for me to start my engines and say hello!

Have fun,

Rob

Bennie75
07-04-13, 19:18
Hi Bennie75,

Magda is back on duty from her vacation (even with more energy than ever!). Confirmed by a very good friend of mine who was at the Club yesterday.

Time for me to start my engines and say hello!

Have fun,

RobLast Friday I was told that she could not handle to much holidays and would be back last Thursday. 3rd of July.

As I didn't know if I could trust that I didn't write it down.

If you go to visit her, please do Magda and Anna the greetings of Bennie.

If I've time I'll be there next Friday, the 12th of July.

With regards,

Bennie75

Dasisextra
07-17-13, 00:30
In my opinion Bernd's can't and should not be considered an AO club. I explain shortly the reason for that: I spoke about that with the management of the club, who told me clearly they advise girls for safe sex and they don't encourage the AO practise; however girls are not forbidden by the club about having AO sex,In my opinion why in the name of all that is FKK would you speak to the management about this subject, in any club that is not a full AO club, if you want this service you speak to the girl you want it from, all she can say in no. Speak to management and you risk screwing it up for those of us who enjoy this club and getting AO from our long time girls. Please think before speaking to management unless you have a valid complaint.

Saratoga120
07-24-13, 19:51
I have recently researched Bernd's and found it to be just what I like, but then was stopped dead in my tracks upon learning it does not permit smoking indoors. Is this accurate? I plan on going in the middle of winter and if I can't see the girls smoke, I would rather go some place I can. I also like the AO and blow jobs in the lounge aspect that Bernd's purportedly offers. I'd appreciate any suggestions on where I might find everything I'm looking for.

Thanks

Boomer10
07-25-13, 01:16
I have recently researched Bernd's and found it to be just what I like, but then was stopped dead in my tracks upon learning it does not permit smoking indoors. Is this accurate? I plan on going in the middle of winter and if I can't see the girls smoke, I would rather go some place I can. I also like the AO and blow jobs in the lounge aspect that Bernd's purportedly offers. I'd appreciate any suggestions on where I might find everything I'm looking for.

ThanksOn the smoking issue, you're SOL. They're just complying with a new law that prohibits smoking in publicly accessible places. If you go to their website, their newsletter says "Laut Gesetz darf seid dem 1. Mai nicht mehr in öffentlich zugänglichen Räumen geraucht werden." No smoking allowed inside, you should be able in indulge outside, provided the girl smokes (some don't).

All, I'm not trying to rekindle the AO debate.

Saratoga, I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but I've never seen AO take place there. You maybe disappointed if you go in with the expectation that AO is an always available option.

Saratoga120
07-25-13, 02:39
Thanks for the help. I take SOL to mean so out of luck?

Is the regulation nationwide? Or are there FKKs where I can indulge my habit of watching beautiful girls with their cigarettes at the bar area?


On the smoking issue, you're SOL. They're just complying with a new law that prohibits smoking in publicly accessible places. If you go to their website, their newsletter says "Laut Gesetz darf seid dem 1. Mai nicht mehr in öffentlich zugänglichen Räumen geraucht werden." No smoking allowed inside, you should be able in indulge outside, provided the girl smokes (some don't).

All, I'm not trying to rekindle the AO debate.

Saratoga, I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but I've never seen AO take place there. You maybe disappointed if you go in with the expectation that AO is an always available option.

SwingerLover
07-25-13, 10:51
if I can't see the girls smoke, I would rather go some place I can. I also like the AO and blow jobs in the lounge aspect that Bernd's purportedly offers. I'd appreciate any suggestions on where I might find everything I'm looking for.Can't say about smoking, but for AO and some public action in the lounge you might want to give Club La Luna in Moers a try on their All-inclusive-Sex-in-the-barroom-days on Mondays and Fridays. I haven't been there myself, so I can't say about quality. Read up in the LaLuna-thread in the Partytreff Clubs forum.

If you are looking for (or don't mind) gangbangs or public action, then there are more AO-options available. Check the Bareback AO Party Calendar thread in the PT forum. Regarding AO and chainsmoking girls and watching public action, the apartment parties in Krefeld are another option. But: ALL action is public, since the apartment is so small. Unless you take the VIP ticket for 100 €, then you can do your own thing in a seperate room downstairs. But that usually lasts only for about 10 minutes or so, then the girl returns to the party. And for someone who's accustomed to places like Bernd's, the crappy condition of the apartment is propably a shock, and the girls don't look like the regular FKK-girls either. But are smoking like crazy! Read up in the Krefeld AO thread in the PT forum.

London Traveller
07-25-13, 19:21
I have recently researched Bernd's and found it to be just what I like, but then was stopped dead in my tracks upon learning it does not permit smoking indoors. Is this accurate? I plan on going in the middle of winter and if I can't see the girls smoke, I would rather go some place I can. I also like the AO and blow jobs in the lounge aspect that Bernd's purportedly offers. I'd appreciate any suggestions on where I might find everything I'm looking for.

ThanksThis might even tempt me back to the place. That is if there are any attractive girls there. Where do the girls hang out to smoke now anyway?

Hessen Bub
07-25-13, 20:49
Is the regulation nationwide? Or are there FKKs where I can indulge my habit of watching beautiful girls with their cigarettes at the bar area?World, Sharks, Paradise.

HB

Free Dude
07-25-13, 21:04
The smoking ban is only in NRW; and even there some clubs don't adhere to it (GT, the RTC clubs).

Saratoga120
07-25-13, 21:10
Excellent to know. Combining with my original query, can you get blown at the bar at any of the clubs the two previous respondents mentioned?

Hessen Bub
07-26-13, 17:56
World, Sharks, Paradise.

HBYes, all 3 I mentioned.

HB

Free Dude
07-26-13, 22:17
Didn't Sharks just install a 'no kissing and petting' policy for the bar? I doubt a blowjob will be considered ok.

Trans Atlantic
07-27-13, 04:13
The smoking ban is only in NRW; and even there some clubs don't adhere to it (GT, the RTC clubs).GT allows smoking but LR does not. Must be some legal difference behind this.

Saratoga120
07-27-13, 17:26
with a lucrative enough tip will the girls pose nude in the private rooms? or are cameras confirep001ed upon entry? what about cell phones?

Nille Copenhagen
07-30-13, 19:49
with a lucrative enough tip will the girls pose nude in the private rooms? or are cameras confirep001ed upon entry? what about cell phones?i've taken pictures with my favorites in the rooms mainly for free or sometimes with a tips.

Saratoga120
07-31-13, 04:34
I've taken pictures with my favorites in the rooms mainly for free or sometimes with a tips.That's great to know. Must it be done surreptitiously? Or can you waltz in there with your 35mm?

Bennie75
07-31-13, 19:21
I have recently researched Bernd's and found it to be just what I like, but then was stopped dead in my tracks upon learning it does not permit smoking indoors. Is this accurate? I plan on going in the middle of winter and if I can't see the girls smoke, I would rather go some place I can. I also like the AO and blow jobs in the lounge aspect that Bernd's purportedly offers. I'd appreciate any suggestions on where I might find everything I'm looking for.

ThanksDear Saratoga120,

There are 3 or 4 places where the girls can smoke:

1: Outside in the garden.

2: Sometimes on the balcony next to the bar on the main level.

3: The stairs at the door next to the sauna / showers in the basement.

4: Sometimes in the relax room they are making / made in the basement (for the men to relax after spending time with a girl)

The girls give public blow jobs (that's normally part of the Hof standard)

Bennie75

Saratoga120
08-01-13, 04:32
Dear Saratoga120,

There are 3 or 4 places where the girls can smoke:

1: Outside in the garden.

2: Sometimes on the balcony next to the bar on the main level.

3: The stairs at the door next to the sauna / showers in the basement.

4: Sometimes in the relax room they are making / made in the basement (for the men to relax after spending time with a girl)

The girls give public blow jobs (that's normally part of the Hof standard)

Bennie75Thanks for the excellent intel! Can the girls smoke in the fuck rooms if you're alone with them?

Bennie75
08-02-13, 08:11
Thanks for the excellent intel! Can the girls smoke in the fuck rooms if you're alone with them?If I'm correct that is not allowed, but I thought that there is 1 room reserved for that. (I don't know for sure).

Bennie75

Saratoga120
08-03-13, 04:43
If I'm correct that is not allowed, but I thought that there is 1 room reserved for that. (I don't know for sure).

Bennie75Thanks. Either way, I'm still sold on this place.

Gggfan
08-06-13, 22:26
The Bernd's has a new website : http://schieferhof.istmein.de/

Do you think that the list of the girls and the schedule (http://schieferhof.istmein.de/#damen) is correct and up-to-date? Pensez-vous que la liste des girls présentes est à jour et correcte?

Other question : on the pictures (http://schieferhof.istmein.de/#girls) we can see a girl named Mina. Never heard of her but she looks very pretty on the pics

Myrrh
08-06-13, 22:47
In my opinion Bernd's can't and should not be considered an AO club. I explain shortly the reason for that: I spoke about that with the management of the club, who told me clearly they advise girls for safe sex and they don't encourage the AO practise; however girls are not forbidden by the club about having AO sex, but it's their choice.
It is also true that girls may do extra money with anal and this happens as far as girls like Jakie simply loves that practice.Do you happen to know if there are there any girls there who are cool about being fucked in the butt without a mitt?

Uggabugga
08-13-13, 21:07
Finally managed a maiden visit on a hot July afternoon. Surroundings even more astonishing than anticipated after following the forum for years. Sessions with Steffi (ass to die for) and Tina (outstanding CBJ). One thing struck me though; do they re-cycle the names on the girls? Think I read behind here somewhere that Steffi quit years ago, and the Tina I saw looked younger and different than on the pic's.

Wbr U

Boomer10
08-14-13, 03:50
Finally managed a maiden visit on a hot July afternoon. Surroundings even more astonishing than anticipated after following the forum for years. Sessions with Steffi (ass to die for) and Tina (outstanding CBJ). One thing struck me though; do they re-cycle the names on the girls? Think I read behind here somewhere that Steffi quit years ago, and the Tina I saw looked younger and different than on the pic's.

Wbr UThe story I was told (and I believe is true) , Steffi left and opened her own club a few years ago. It closed and Steffi eventually returned to Bernds.

The Tina working at Bernds in May is the same woman I first remember seeing there about 6 years ago.

Hessen Bub
08-14-13, 08:57
CBJ at Bernd's? Did you request it?

HB

Uggabugga
08-14-13, 19:30
[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1458839]CBJ at Bernd's? Did you request it?

Yes, I always do.

Ortos
08-14-13, 19:40
CBJ at Bernd's? Did you request it?

HBTo go to a club like Bernd's and ask for CBJ: Isn't that like going to a Steakhouse and asking for vegetarian dishes? .

Woofiee
08-15-13, 16:07
To go to a club like Bernd's and ask for CBJ: Isn't that like going to a Steakhouse and asking for vegetarian dishes? .What do you care? If he wants that, it's his choice.

There's always someone here ready to shoot people down for their preferences.

Ortos
08-15-13, 20:13
What do you care? If he wants that, it's his choice.

There's always someone here ready to shoot people down for their preferences.Don't be so fast to condemn or attack someone unless you are 100% sure you know their meaning. Maybe you mis-interprert the meaning of my post. You naturally assume I was attacking someone for choosing CBJ vs BBBJ?

Absolutely wrong conclusion! Of course everybody has a right to choose what he will / will not do in an FKK situation. I never said (nor do I believe) otherwise. Even applaud some guys who choose a long, erotic HJ over full bbbj/sex, if that is what foats their boat. To each their own, that is my mantra!

So please don't insist that "you know where I am coming from."

Just like I do not pass judgement on vegetarions who end up in a prime steak house with some of the best dry aged sirloin in the world, but they choose to eat vegetarian dishes. No problem for me, that is THEIR individal choice. I just wonder why they go to a prime meat place for it.

Just like I composed a light-hearted and "in jest" post, with no intention to pass judgement on anyone, about visiting Bernds, home of some of the best BBBJ / cim action in FKKdom, but selecting to go CBJ. The advantage of Bernds is in the service (NOT looks!) department. One big advantage of sevice of service at Bernd's is the bbbj/cim which is normally not standard and more expensive option at other FKK clubs.

But there's always someone to put a negative spin on a bit of humour, and then shoot them down for saying something, they didn't.

Lighten up, mate.

O

Trans Atlantic
08-16-13, 03:19
But there's always someone to put a negative spin on a bit of humour, and then shoot them down for saying something, they didn't.

Lighten up, mate.

OThe choice of words used in this attempt at humor does gives off an aura of condescension. Eg vegetarians are "missing the point" of a steakhouse; mongers who prefer CBJ are missing the point by going to Bernds?

Ortos
08-16-13, 04:58
the choice of words used in this attempt at humor does gives off an aura of condescension. eg vegetarians are "missing the point" of a steakhouse; mongers who prefer cbj are missing the point by going to bernds?true the words chosen might give to some another meaning from what was intended. i suppose in hindsight a "smiley" might have been inserted for clarity. however, yes, mongers who prefer cbj are certainly missing out on the best aspects of visiting bernds. just as vegetarians visiting a top-notch steakhouse, as is their perogative, are not capitlising on that restaurants strongest points. no condenrep001ion intended, just a bit of light-hearted curiosity.

Dreams
08-17-13, 11:23
. no condenrep001ion intended, just a bit of light-hearted curiosity.and a good common sense.

SwingerLover
08-17-13, 22:49
What do you care? If he wants that, it's his choice.

There's always someone here ready to shoot people down for their preferences.The guy who is always ready to "shoot people down for their preferences" (like AO) is asking others what they care!


Don't be so fast to condemn or attack someone unless you are 100% sure you know their meaning.
It's what he does.

TommySued
08-24-13, 11:50
Do you happen to know if there are there any girls there who are cool about being fucked in the butt without a mitt?I had AO anal at Bernds with Erika, Jenny, Mara, Jacky / Steffi, Nathali. So you have the choice.

Rob Raunch
08-29-13, 07:24
On their new website I found a document which might be helpfull to "newcummers". Under [FAQ] they have a German and English version of what they call a factsheet (I first found it on their mobile website).

Here is a direct link:

http://schieferhof.istmein.de/facts.pdf

On my last visit I had a session with Mina. How to describe this: She is a girl that can awaken the beast in me! A perfect combination of intelligence and porno. Slim body, small breasts, some tat's, a sharp mind and serious sucking-skills. She showed me the stars (and not only the ones in ink on her body). Just what the doctor ordered!

Looking forward to my next visit at Lichtenbergs-candystore in September.

Have Fun!

Katinka
09-01-13, 19:04
This fan of Palace, Oase, Artemis, and World, not necessarily in that order is planning to taste Bernds. Just a little nervous, but trying to buck myself up.

Simex
09-01-13, 23:53
Nervous about what?


This fan of Palace, Oase, Artemis, and World, not necessarily in that order is planning to taste Bernds. Just a little nervous, but trying to buck myself up.

Katinka
09-02-13, 06:53
Nervous about what?Damn sensible question. Nervous about looking like that strange guy who has never been here before. Nervous that the selection might not include a delight to my liking. I guess I enjoy the annonimity of the large clubs. But Bernds is on the must do list of every dedicated FKK mongrel as I understand the rule book.

Shark16
09-02-13, 10:20
damn sensible question. nervous about looking like that strange guy who has never been here before. nervous that the selection might not include a delight to my liking. i guess i enjoy the annonimity of the large clubs. but bernds is on the must do list of every dedicated fkk mongrel as i understand the rule book.stop worrying. bernd's is a very nice and relaxed club with a "homey" atmosphere. be nice and smile, and you will be welcomed as a friend. if you want to talk, then the male guests there are usually very nice to talk with. a little bit of german helps as this club attracts fewer international clients than what you are used to at the other clubs. if you need a drink to socialize, the bar is open. do not forget that if the girls do not talk to you, it is because they - in contrast to the clubs you already have visited - are not permitted to approach clients. you therefore need to take the first step, and they will lighten up when you do. trust me, they would love talking to you (and suggest a couple of things too). if you want to be left alone, then that will be respected. no problem. many people do. bring a book or a newspaper and relax.

remember this club is small and there is very little to do in between sessions (just a kitchen and a small sauna and a massage room). this is the whole point with the set-up up of this club: making it feel small and cramped with nothing to do so that everything can be focused on the sex (including a little bit of public sex).

line-up? you have take bernd's for what it is. i disagree this is a must-do club for everybody. it is famous for its service standards and not that much for its optical qualities. if your preference is 18- 22 yo [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), you will be disappointed and you might as well skip this club. most girls are in the 25- 40 range, including a few doable girls. all girls dfk. a session usually start with a public dfk, bbbj/bs and hj (so be prepared), and from there it only gets better. if you are a fan of extras, you will appreciate that cim is free and anal is only 50e. ao? never asked for it; never was offered it. if this is your thing, then read elsewhere.

good luck!

and please report. too few bernd's reports lately!

ps. trying to explain "the bernd's hj": 1. you talk with the girl. 2. she starts caressing you. 3. she initiates a dfk. 4. after a while she drops the dfk for a slow sloppy bbbj/bs. 5. she moves to sit on you returning to dfk with your wet dick between her ass cheeks stroking it with her hand ("the bernd's hj"). 6. after a minute she asks the question: "wanna continue in a room?"

i think you know the answer. ;)

Myrrh
09-02-13, 11:04
I am going to Bernds since 2 years now whenever I am in NRW (6-8 times a year).

I like this club because you can easy get AO there. Here my experiences:

Mara, dutch girl next-door type. GF6, loves anal. Really great having her riding on top with my dick in der butt while she is rubbing her clit. CIM, CIP and CIA (cum in arse) possible.

Babsi, blond, end 40 MILF, cute face (I guess with some help of a doctor) , body ok for her age. GF6, she gets really wet when licking. Great feeling penetrating her juicy pussy bareback. CIM and CIP. No idea if she likes anal, must ask next time.

Jenny, tiny blonde greek, GF6 and pornstyle if you like. CIM, CIP and CIA possible.

Dana, Romanian girl, GF6 always great CIP to finish.

Alina, blonde barmaid downstairs, always open for going to a room (another girl will take over the bar). GF6 too. CIP no problem.

Natali, Polish girl, GF6 but pornstyle too if you like, Offers anal, CIM, CIP, CIA.

Erika, Romanian, ugly tits, but no taboos, pornstyle experience, CIM, CIP, CIA.

Leonie, dark-skinned brazilian, GF6, CIP.

Sandra, the masseuse. GF6 (on the massage table or in the room next to massage) , CIM and CIP possible.

Magda, blonde Polish girl, big tits. Great titfuck, GF6, CIP. Apparently she has left for Traumparadies again.

Sandy, tall and slim girl. Submissive girl, always asks for slaps in her face or on her butt. CIP.

Bareback is 50 Euro extra. For the girl offering anal it is 50 Euro on top. No extra cash for CIM.Well at various 'red carpet clubs' in the NRW region which are reported on in the dedicated AO sections of this forum, some of which are actually officially FKK's, you can get all the above tabooless activities for just the cost of the €30 entrance and then €30 per girl. If the girl does any extra services then you will get that extra service for free on top of the basic service.

So if you wanted to then you could pull your cum covered dick out of one tight ass hole and get another girl to lick that ass hole and your dick clean for just €60 spent on both girls. Rather than €50 extra for AO, another €50 for anal and then €50 for something else and then pay the same amounts all over again for the other girl. Plus the entrance cost and cost of the basic service is lower in these clubs too compared to Bernds so you save there as well.

At one particular club that I favour at least 4 of the girls on duty on a particular day will do anal and as it is an 'AO' club then that means anal without a condom. You would not have to rely upon rumours on a sex forum to try and figure out what each girl will do because there is a photo of each girl on duty on display in the club with vivid descriptions of exactly what they will do. For example this girl specialises in anal or swallowing or does absolutely everything!

Judging by the photos that I have seen of the Bernds girls then the girls at the club that I favour are at least as attractive and certainly younger, 18 to 24 being the average age, although there are a few others in late 20's and 30's for those who prefer the older woman.

The girlfriend experience is just as good.

The only thing that isn't as good is the food. So you wouldn't get the famous Bernds salad although at the club I go to you could always get one of the girls to toss your own salad for free.

Capt Dan
09-02-13, 11:28
So if you wanted to then you could pull your cum covered dick out of one tight ass hole and get another girl to lick that ass hole and your dick clean for just €60 spent on both girls. Rather than €50 extra for AO, another €50 for anal and then €50 for something else and then pay the same amounts all over again for the other girl.To each his own but for many and for many different reasons this type of service would not be wanted even if it were for free.


At one particular club that I favour at least 4 of the girls on duty on a particular day will do anal and as it is an 'AO' club then that means anal without a condom. You would not have to rely upon rumours on a sex forum to try and figure out what each girl will do because there is a photo of each girl on duty on display in the club with vivid descriptions of exactly what they will do.This is because Bernd's is not an AO club and there is no "standard service". Sure like all FKK / Sauna clubs some girls (a few girls) do offer anal and / or bareback service but Bernd's management does not require that the women working in the club provide anal and / or AO / Bareback service. The Bernd's hookers don't even have to provide anal service (covered or bareback) if they don't want to. Each girl is independent in this regard.

Ibn Buttita
09-02-13, 12:15
Katinka, your case of the nerves is reasonable, since Bernd's is a place worthy of approaching with anticipation and reverence. As you suggest, Bernd's is a kind of pilgrimage site, a 'first church' of the FKK-Saunaclub movement, a holy shrine that's a must-do for any monger. You should have butterflies in your stomach as your visit approaches!

I made my first and (thus far) only visit in the late autumn of 2011, getting to Hennef by train from Frankfurt in the early evening, making a simple connection to the vicinity of Hotel Reuter by bus. I had made a telephone reservation at Reuters and was happy to find that it was as pleasant as described on the forum: a cozy and comfortable though small room, and friendly and helpful hosts. The breakfast set out for me the next morning was a feast, with so much food that I was able to take some of the rolls and packaged cheeses and yoghurt along on my morning train back to Frankfurt.

As I walked down the street toward Bernd's after getting settled in at Reuter I had some nervous anticipation, in part since I had read so much about the Hof being a locals-oriented club. Ringing the doorbell of what looked like an average suburban house also felt a bit strange. After getting changed at my locker I headed over to the main upstairs bar room, and noted what a small place it was. Unlike most clubs I visited, here I was thrown right into the mix, there wasn't as much scope to carve out my own space like I would do in a bigger place. Later when I went downstairs I found myself in the midst of the couches in that bar area, which were mostly full with guests (some were Asian, actually, so it's not just a locals' place) and girls. It felt a bit like walking into a party where you don't know anyone else and are instantly immersed into socializing with group. This isn't necessarily bad, just a different atmosphere than most clubs I visit, places that seem more commercial and impersonal. (To me Haus Pantera in NRW is a little like Bernd's in this way, I had German guys there saying hello to me which does not happen much in other places).

Besides the sense of finally being at Bernd's, and seeing the stark naked women casually sitting on the couches and at the bars, I was also getting excited by the prospect of some public sex. I had done this at places like Lady Marmalade parties in London, and in FKK and saunaclub kino's, and outdoors at FKK Goldentime in Vienna, but never at such close, well-lit quarters in a German club. I was not going to pass up this opportunity, so when I saw a cute blonde on the couch upstairs I sat down and after a few pleasantries we began to kiss, fondle, and she began a nice BBBJ. She was Greek Jenny, and I soon got down from the couch and pushed my face between her legs for some DATY. This turned into a 69, and in turn she rode me cowgirl (I like couch cowgirl, if you call it that, the feeling of sitting up is a nice change from being on my back) , and finally some doggy. I did wonder how we would have done this if the club had been crowded; does it turn into a mass of arms and legs like LMP parties sometimes do?

I liked the feeling of being on display, but we did eventually head to a room for some more private time, including some Greek from Jenny the Greek. This was my first time doing missionary anal, as a minor leg injury made doggy anal hard for Jenny. And to finish, I had to take advantage of the gratis cum in mouth option at Bernd's, which I think could be reason enough to visit this club. After spending a playful hour with Jenny, I knew exactly what had been described so much on the forum about the great service levels at Bernd's. (No AO offered to me during this session or my next).

Since I had arrived somewhat late (Bernd's is not a place for night owls) , I figured that I had time for only one more session. Fortunately, when I scanned the upstairs couch area for options, the hottest girl in the club was sitting there alone. (A close second was a tall, slender black girl who seemed kind of standoffish so I didn't bother early on, and I did not see her later). Brunette Tina from Romania offered a friendly greeting when I sat down next to her (I liked that in such confined space the girls did not approach or get sharky, that would have been awkward). And soon after she greeted me a friendly BBBJ on the couch, a nice show for the guy sitting nearby. We saved the fucking for a private room, end ended it with a fine cumshot in her mouth.

I relaxed in the upstairs lounge afterward, but it was around 11PM and the few remaining guests were on their way out, and it was clear that the club was not staying open until the witching hour just for me. That was fine, as I had gotten to experience the legend that is Bernd's, though I want it to be more of an introduction that a 'check-off' on the monger bucket list.

What impressed me was how civilized the Bernd's experience was. While I like a rousing time at a party-oriented venue, I did appreciate the almost genteel atmosphere of the club. And what could be more civilized than strolling to and from Bernd's from a comfortable hotel, just a short walk away? No rushing to get to a bus or train or worrying about driving home. (I did notice at least one other lodging place in the neighborhood, so if Reuters is full or if you want to change off, other options are available). I do wish that the hominess of Bernd's had extended to home cooking, as the food options were only so-so.

Most important, the excellent service from the girls (like the included CIM) was the epitome of civilized. In the case of Jenny and Tina this wasn't on offer to compensate for lower grade appearance, I would have taken these two for their looks at any club. And while I did notice more chunky milfiness on hand that I would have seen at other FKKs, I still found some of those women appealing. Walking back to the hotel afterward I passed a First World War memorial and thought to myself how Bernd's demonstrated the elevated state to which Germany had evolved over the decades: 'Make love, not war, ' how much more civilized can you get?

Tjohoo
09-02-13, 17:02
'Make love, not war, ' how much more civilized can you get?Thank you for a great report. It's made me change my mind. Maybe it's time to visit this club.

T

Breadman
09-02-13, 18:10
Well at various 'red carpet clubs' in the NRW region which are reported on in the dedicated AO sections of this forum, some of which are actually officially FKK's, you can get all the above tabooless activities for just the cost of the €30 entrance and then €30 per girl. If the girl does any extra services then you will get that extra service for free on top of the basic service.AO is a risk, the lower price you go the more people who can afford it. Paying a girl 50 euro's extra keeps her AO activities to a minimum, thus lowering the chances of catching something. I'd rather spend a bit more on a higher class hooker and pay her more for that extra service. My time and a doctors visit cost money, I'm just paying that amount to a 'cleaner' girl (at least I hope) so nothing comes back to bite me later in the trip. Every club has AO girls, if you ask around discretely and offer them a suitable reward its easily found. You can then lower the payment for said extra as you repeat with the girl, several times it can be given for free if she's super slow. Sad to say the quality at Bernds (except for Mara and a few others) doesn't work for me anymore.


The bad news is that I took a 'hit' from my last weekend in Germany. Had booked a flight to fly out to Germany this weekend as well, because it is the bank holiday weekend, but then I started pissing razor blades last Wednesday. Went to the sex clinic on Thursday, got diagnosed with non specific urethritis and was prescribed a large dose of Azythromycin but then for some reason went out in the evening and got drunk at a strip bar. The next day found that the drugs didn't seem to work. So until Saturday morning (which was when my flight was) I was still debating on whether to get on the plane or not as dick still stinged when I pissed.

I know that true bareback 'valhalla' warriors are not supposed to go down from things like these but maybe I don't have the teflon coated dicks like what other guys have. Also I am aware that this will give ammunition to the 'I told you so' bareback haters but I believe in telling it as it is.

Anyway a friend who had been to Thailand recently had brought back some packets of Azithromycin and so I borrowed them off him, took the 1000mg dose again and did get on the plane in the end.

Wasn't sure what I was going to do when I got there but it beat spending the long weekend in the UK.So you went to these lower priced AO clubs even though you weren't cured and your recommending TommySued to partake in the same girls? You risked others and if you had shown any symptoms the police could have been called (read that from Swingerlover I believe, don't quote me on it). If you did it, others have done it as well. No, I'll pay the higher price for AO, less risk in my mind of catching something if fewer men have that option of the pussy (or ass) that I want to fuck.

Katinka
09-02-13, 19:22
Paying a girl 50 euro's extra keeps her AO activities to a minimum, thus lowering the chances of catching something.I don't want to start a fight, but you have got to be kidding me. You honestly believe 50 euros is a screening sum?

Breadman
09-02-13, 19:46
You honestly believe 50 euros is a screening sum?Its actually 70 euro's. 30 euro's and a wide variety of men coming thru the door for AO sex vs. Bernds where its 100 euro's with less of a revolving door. Guys from all walks of life can afford 30 euro's, bit harder to pay Bernds 70 euro entrance, become a regular of the club and then be offered AO for 100 euro's. Which has more risk? Bernds is the safer option.

Capt Dan
09-02-13, 20:43
I think it best to have this AO conversation in either the Lounge and Chat Area or in the Germany AO Section. FKK Bernd's is not officially an AO / Bareback club (although a few of the girls may offer this service to some customers) and the club is not promoted as such. I think that this type of conversation is better placed elsewhere.

Myrrh
09-02-13, 22:25
Bernds

Entrance 70

1/2 hour session 50

Going two minutes overtime 0.

CIM 0.

Anal (if you're looking for it) 50.

AO (if you're looking for it and it's on offer) 50

Total 220

What you might pay elsewhere.

Entrance 65.

1/2 hour session 50.

Going two minutes overtime 50.

CIM 50.

Anal (if you're looking for it) 200.

AO (if you're looking for it and it's on offer) 200.

Total 615Maybe it is safer to do your barebacking at normal FKK's where the steep AO price uplift acts as a true disincentive to casual barebacking rather than at Bernds which appears to be occupying the vacant space just above the bargain basement bareback brothels.

Capt Dan
09-03-13, 00:20
As you suggest, Bernd's is a kind of pilgrimage site, a 'first church' of the FKK-Saunaclub movement, a holy shrine that's a must-do for any monger.Thank you for the great report Ibn Buttita. I have added same to the Reports of Distinction Thread.

Hessen Bub
09-03-13, 07:56
Bernds

Entrance 70

1/2 hour session 50

Going two minutes overtime 0.

CIM 0.

Anal (if you're looking for it) 50.

AO (if you're looking for it and it's on offer) 50

Total 220

What you might pay elsewhere.

Entrance 65.

1/2 hour session 50.

Going two minutes overtime 50.

CIM 50.

Anal (if you're looking for it) 200.

AO (if you're looking for it and it's on offer) 200.

Total 615Alternative Grimberg Sauna or Arabella or Villa Venus or FKK Dietzenbach:

Entrance plus one session including AO, CIM, BB, ANAL.

Total: 60 EUR.

HB

Myrrh
09-03-13, 08:32
Alternative Grimberg Sauna or Arabella or Villa Venus or FKK Dietzenbach:Or FKK Verena or FKK Alina or FKK Erotika or Cleopatra Arena or

TommySued
09-03-13, 09:13
As I was quoted here:

I really don't care if I overpay at Bernds for the tabooless pleasures or not, comparing to other clubs like FKK Dietzenbach.

And to some other postings here:

Paying a higher price for entrance or AO is of course no extra security.

If you read the German forums carefully you will find reports from guys doing AO at Bernds and at other AO-locations or if you go to several clubs you will meet some guys again.

On a Thursday I saw a guy at LaLuna Moers and the next day I saw him again at Bernds. By seeing at the bar what the ladies wrote on his card, it was obvious that he got AO at Bernds too.

At Bernds the girls get tested by a doc regularly, however some girls need sometimes to take a brake because of some little problems like vaginal mycosis, herpes.

Katinka
09-03-13, 15:49
I finally got up my nerve to visit Bernds. *As people here have repeatedly noted, it must be an acquired taste. *I am glad that I have checked it off the bucket list, but my tastes run more to the big clubs.

I was with Jenny. *Even at the temple of CIM. *My selection pulled away as I was coming and finished it with her hand. *Wish that I had had a heads up, I would have enjoyed that cute little ass in missionary.

By the way somebody else noted that the cabbies at Hennif might not know where it is. True statement. Cabbie had to call into HQ to find it. Dropped me on the correct street roughly at the right house, but wasn't sure which house. I walked up and down the street till I figured it out. I didn't want to start randomly knocking on doors. Oh and in contrast to Golden Time, there was not a herd at the door at the opening gong.

Woofiee
09-04-13, 15:25
I think it best to have this AO conversation in either the Lounge and Chat Area or in the Germany AO Section. FKK Bernd's is not officially an AO / Bareback club (although a few of the girls may offer this service to some customers) and the club is not promoted as such. I think that this type of conversation is better placed elsewhere.If a club doesn't put it on it's menu, but:

* if it happens regularly.

* it has a fixed prices as an option.

* and it's openly discussed here.

Isn't it just a mistruth to say otherwise?

This AO debate about Bernds won't die or go away because some members prefer not to call a spade a spade.

Free Dude
09-04-13, 19:54
Be aware that this tourist board is the only place it regularly gets discussed. Even though it is common knowledge it happens (like it does everywhere else) , it is also something that is in no way standard / offered to everyone and by everyone. That makes it a normal sauna club. Unlike places that openly advertise it (RTC's) and places where it gets explained to you when entering (Club Angelique). But we have been through this before, and if I recall correctly all members of note agreed with these descriptions.

Capt Dan
09-04-13, 23:12
Be aware that this tourist board is the only place it regularly gets discussed. Even though it is common knowledge it happens (like it does everywhere else) , it is also something that is in no way standard / offered to everyone and by everyone. That makes it a normal sauna club. Unlike places that openly advertise it (RTC's) and places where it gets explained to you when entering (Club Angelique). But we have been through this before, and if I recall correctly all members of note agreed with these descriptions.Completely agree. AO is not promoted or advertised by Bernd's and is not offered as a service by all the women working in the club. I would encourage further AO discussion to take place in the appropriate Germany AO Forum. Members should really be posting information about Bernd's and not dwelling on the subject of covered or uncovered sex.

Woofiee
09-05-13, 12:57
But we have been through this before, and if I recall correctly all members of note agreed with these descriptions.Ah. So some members are more equal than others.

Excuse me please - I do forget myself sometimes.

Breadman
09-05-13, 14:46
That makes it a normal sauna club. .Or an abnormal AO club.

TankTank123
09-06-13, 13:21
I have not been to Bernds before and would like to give it a try one afternoon next week. I have RTFF but did not notice any post about taxis from Siegburg Bahnhof, althpugh there were some talking about some taxi drivers at Hennef not knowing the way. As I have just about 4 hours to spare if I break my ICE train journey from southern to northern Germany, I will need to take a taxi to Bernds and back. Can anyone provide me advice please whether taxis are readily available at the Siegburg Bahnhof and whether the taxi drivers will know the way to Bernds?

Thanks a lot.

Bennie75
09-06-13, 20:13
I have not been to Bernds before and would like to give it a try one afternoon next week. I have RTFF but did not notice any post about taxis from Siegburg Bahnhof, althpugh there were some talking about some taxi drivers at Hennef not knowing the way. As I have just about 4 hours to spare if I break my ICE train journey from southern to northern Germany, I will need to take a taxi to Bernds and back. Can anyone provide me advice please whether taxis are readily available at the Siegburg Bahnhof and whether the taxi drivers will know the way to Bernds?

Thanks a lot.Dear TankTank123,

On the website of Bernds there is an English fact sheet stating it's a 7 minute drive with a car (taxi).

http://schieferhof.istmein.de/facts.pdf?cls=res

This is also giving directions for getting to them by car.

But I also see that you will break your ICE train journey, the one thing I don't know if the ICE stops at Hennef or that you'll have to get onto another train to get to Hennef from Bonn or Cologne. If that is the case it will take another half to full hour to get to Hennef.

Bennie75

Johncr04
09-06-13, 21:40
I have not been to Bernds before and would like to give it a try one afternoon next week. I have RTFF but did not notice any post about taxis from Siegburg Bahnhof, althpugh there were some talking about some taxi drivers at Hennef not knowing the way. As I have just about 4 hours to spare if I break my ICE train journey from southern to northern Germany, I will need to take a taxi to Bernd's and back. Can anyone provide me advice please whether taxis are readily available at the Siegburg Bahnhof and whether the taxi drivers will know the way to Bernds?

Thanks a lot.I attended Bernd's yesterday for the very first time. I took the train to the Hennef (Seig) station. The taxi stand is right at the top of the stairs as you exit the station. While my German is pretty limited I showed the driver the address and name of Bernd's on my phone. He indicated his understanding with a knowing smile and away we went. The drive was approximately 8-10 minutes ending with him depositing me directly out front of this fine establishment. So in this instance the taxi was a good way to go.

Now for my review. I too had a limited window on my day that I could sneak away. Unfortunately, train misunderstandings on my part led to further narrowing of the window. When I arrived I was given the tour by Erika. Great tour where I got to see first hand what makes Bernd's so special. A fellow monger was getting a spectacular bareback blowjob in the garden and another in the main room. All in all, nice cozy place. I had a hard time understanding all of the names, but the ones I can say with certainty were there were Erika, Jacky and Nina. There were about four others that I didn't have the chance to make acquaintance with.

As I said I was unable to stay for an extended afternoon visit. I was also spending entirely too much time trying to make up my mind on who to go with. My fancy landed on Nina as I like the skinnier types with the tiny butts. She came to sit next to me in the garden. We chatted with limited success due to my poor German. She asked if I wanted to go to a room. Now I have read all of the wonderfully informative posts by everyone here (thank you all, by the way) and I was interested in the full Bernd's experience of review legend and that I had just witnessed. So I asked for a blow job there in the garden to start. She at first acted like she didn't know what I was talking about which is perfectly plausible due our language constraints. Then once she clearly understood what I was requesting she said,"No, I do in room." I was a bit disappointed, but respected her choice.

Once inside she began a spirited BBBJ. We attempted 69, but she was too tiny and I could not reach her pussy while she was giving me head. Solved that by rolling her over and going down on her. After that we began missionary covered (I asked for AO, she declined) followed by doggie and a nice spooning position that gave a great view in the mirror at the foot of the bed. Finished with a very nice BBBJ / CIM with her directing a good bit onto her face and then licking it off her fingers. Very nice touch.

Unfortunately, my time was up. The place is nice and the thekefrau was amazingly accommodating and kind. I didn't try the food, but it looked great. I would return to try other girls.

TankTank123
09-07-13, 00:57
Thanks, Benny and John. However, I was not referring to the Hennef station, but to the Siegburg (Bonn) station that lies directly on the ICE line. Taking the S12 from Siegburg to Hennef (Sieg) would cost me 30 minutes of waiting and traveling time each way, hence the hope for easy taxi availability at Siegburg (Bonn).

Boomer10
09-07-13, 01:03
I attended Bernd's yesterday for the very first time.

As I said I was unable to stay for an extended afternoon visit. I was also spending entirely too much time trying to make up my mind on who to go with. My fancy landed on Nina as I like the skinnier types with the tiny butts. She came to sit next to me in the garden. We chatted with limited success due to my poor German. She asked if I wanted to go to a room. Now I have read all of the wonderfully informative posts by everyone here (thank you all, by the way) and I was interested in the full Bernd's experience of review legend and that I had just witnessed. So I asked for a blow job there in the garden to start. She at first acted like she didn't know what I was talking about which is perfectly plausible due our language constraints. Then once she clearly understood what I was requesting she said,"No, I do in room." I was a bit disappointed, but respected her choice.Hi John,

I visited yesterday also. Nina is new to Bernds and I'm told working hard to learn the ropes. Standard service is public BBBJ and she'll have to get over her shyness if she hopes to stay there any length time. The other girls seem to like her and I expect she'll meet the Hof standard when you visit again.

If you're looking for someone who is somewhat of an exhibitionest, Mara comes mind. Look her up on your next visit.

Boomer10

Hessen Bub
09-07-13, 08:23
She came to sit next to me in the garden.

So I asked for a blow job there in the garden to start.

She said,"No, I do in room."If I remember right there's a " no sex / BJ in the garden" policy at Schieferhof. She may have blown you inside on the sofa.

HB

Boomer10
09-07-13, 09:48
If I remember right there's a " no sex / BJ in the garden" policy at Schieferhof. She may have blown you inside on the sofa.

HBI don`t think that`s true now. I`ve sessioned a couple of times in the garden in the last few months and seen others take advantage of the great out doors. The online FAQ says that the only restricted location is the sauna.

My guess is she`s new to the Hof and still learning the ropes.

Yakob
09-11-13, 00:27
Bernds is putting on a burlesques style event on Friday. 20 September where the girls appear to be dressed in just pasties. That must turn on some guys like you-turn on a television.

Yakob
09-11-13, 00:29
50 euro entry price day is on Friday. 27 September where you get advantage of a discounted entry at Bernds. Every little incentive helps.

Excess
09-11-13, 09:53
I attended Bernd's yesterday for the very first time.

The place is nice and the thekefrau was amazingly accommodating and kind.Sorry, I couldn`t resist this one. Hello Connie, Hello!

E.

TankTank123
09-25-13, 05:48
Being a gazelle lover, I had previously been dissuaded from visiting Bernds after reading all the posts about there being very few slim girls there. Nevertheless, I decided that I had to experience Bernds at least once, and made my way there yesterday afternoon. While most of the women were plumpish MILFs, there were 2 reasonably ones for me to take to the room. I must say that they went all out to please, and many times asked what else they could do to make me happier. This is something I had not experienced in other clubs when taking on a new girl who has not been with me before. So, it turned out to be a great afternoon, most of the time being with Tina.

Nille Copenhagen
09-25-13, 16:08
Being a gazelle lover, I had previously been dissuaded from visiting Bernds after reading all the posts about there being very few slim girls there. Nevertheless, I decided that I had to experience Bernds at least once, and made my way there yesterday afternoon. While most of the women were plumpish MILFs, there were 2 reasonably ones for me to take to the room. I must say that they went all out to please, and many times asked what else they could do to make me happier. This is something I had not experienced in other clubs when taking on a new girl who has not been with me before. So, it turned out to be a great afternoon, most of the time being with Tina.The girls here are friendly, relaxed and the service is great, everything seems old but charming (can't blame them, they have been in business forever).

Some girl has worked there since the opening, LOL.

If you are an opti-freak Bernds is not the place for you, what I do is a combo visit, first hit Bernds early and move on to Samya later in the evening. That is a good combo.

TankTank123
09-26-13, 05:18
The girls here are friendly, relaxed and the service is great, everything seems old but charming (can't blame them, they have been in business forever).Yes, it was so homely that I paid a repeat visit yesterday afternoon! They were even friendlier today and all smiled at me during my arrival like a returned friend.

There were 5 new girls. One of the older ones made remarks to me sounding like the newer ones were not that welcome; and that the new ones often do not stay long. I tried one of the new ones, a Bulgarian called Emilia, the only not-so-plump ones among the new ones. Great session. I spotted another slim girl, Ines, but she spoke no English at all, so I had to pass.

Just one question out of curiosity. One earlier post mentioned an energetic Magda with large tits. Yesterday, I met a very slim (short-cropped) blonde Polish Magda but with almost flat saggy tits, and she did not seem that interested in getting customers. She had a towel wrapped around her much of the time and kept going out to smoke. Is this the same one?

Oliver Kitsoff
09-28-13, 15:43
Hi Nille,

Without going into too much detail, how far away is Samya from Hennef? Is it in Koln or Bonn? Do you drive yourself?

Thanks!

EB


The girls here are friendly, relaxed and the service is great, everything seems old but charming (can't blame them, they have been in business forever).

Some girl has worked there since the opening, LOL.

If you are an opti-freak Bernds is not the place for you, what I do is a combo visit, first hit Bernds early and move on to Samya later in the evening. That is a good combo.

Oliver Kitsoff
09-28-13, 23:20
I am a monger who has enjoyed the hobby from Amsterdam to Sydney and many Asian cities in between, (Hong Kong, Manila, Bangkok, Shanghai, Penang, Singapore) I have not been to anywhere else yet in Deutschland but Bernds FKK and Pascha, Koln. I have to agree that Bernds is really really good.

I want to experience a partytreff but I am actually 'scared' to 'waste' my money after Bernds. Yes, all the cliches are true, it is more a MILF experience with one or two younger girls, but as one poster said so well, it is like being invited to dinner at a family home then getting to fuck the women in that family! An excellent description.

I took a Chinese friend and business associate there, he is an expert monger in China, but he was adamant that Bernds was the best experience in his sex life ever! (and China is pretty damn good in terms of mongering if you happen to speak Mandarin, as he does).

I was very worried that he would encounter some racism, but he was warmly 'broken in' by Mara, who later fed him strawberries and cream in the garden, which he will never forget- and then he even got to AO with Michelle (an EE brunette who looks like a 'Private' porn star with legs forever. And a 'photographic' memory FWIW!) He is, I might add a man of great charisma, everywhere he went in Germany he would introduce himself as 'Jackie Chan' clearly he is not, but that just broke the ice everywhere, smiles and laughs all round, you could almost hear people thinking. 'Hey, this Asian guy is OK! '

The moral of my post is that Bernds is just an incredible experience. I have read how you have to watch the clock and keep track of your Euros in other places. Seriously, even if I got to fuck miley Cyrus, it is not worth it, IMHO, give me women who look like they could be your neighbor's wife, and fuck with the same enthusiasm, and you have as good as it gets to the real thing without all the bullshit! If you want to fuck glamour girls who are there for just the paycheck, sign up for porn, at least you'll get paid too!

Oliver Kitsoff
09-28-13, 23:23
HB,

I have seen a BBBJTCIM done on the garden swing by Michelle last year as I chatted with another customer, so that's two more eyewitnesses. The garden is private, I can't see why sex would be 'banned' there.

Boomer10
09-29-13, 06:36
Without going into too much detail, how far away is Samya from Hennef? Is it in Koln or Bonn?

EBSamya is about 29 miles from Bernds. Samya has a Koln postal code but it's not in the main city but a little south of it. Sort of like Bernds which has a Hennef postal code but is about 4 miles south east of Hennef.

Boomer10
09-29-13, 06:49
Just one question out of curiosity. One earlier post mentioned an energetic Magda with large tits. Yesterday, I met a very slim (short-cropped) blonde Polish Magda but with almost flat saggy tits, and she did not seem that interested in getting customers. She had a towel wrapped around her much of the time and kept going out to smoke. Is this the same one?There's only one Magda at Bernds and your description is close enough for me to confirm it's Magda. Unless she's lost a lot of weight, I would never use never use flat and saggy to describe her.

If go to: http://schieferhof.istmein.de/#girls and click on the "I am over 18 years old" button, Magda is the blond woman in the center. I last saw her 4 months ago and the pictures are how I remember her.

Boomer

Hessen Bub
09-29-13, 11:15
HB, I have seen a BBBJTCIM done on the garden swing by Michelle last year as I chatted with another customer, so that's two more eyewitnesses. The garden is private, I can't see why sex would be 'banned' there.Years ago sex was definetely banned outdoors, but that seems to have changed. Good.

HB

ButtLover
09-29-13, 11:16
I am a monger who has enjoyed the hobby from Amsterdam to Sydney and many Asian cities in between, (Hong Kong, Manila, Bangkok, Shanghai, Penang, Singapore) I have not been to anywhere else yet in Deutschland but Bernds FKK and Pascha, Koln. I have to agree that Bernds is really really good.

I want to experience a partytreff but I am actually 'scared' to 'waste' my money after Bernds. Yes, all the cliches are true, it is more a MILF experience with one or two younger girls, but as one poster said so well, it is like being invited to dinner at a family home then getting to fuck the women in that family! An excellent description.

I took a Chinese friend and business associate there, he is an expert monger in China, but he was adamant that Bernds was the best experience in his sex life ever! (and China is pretty damn good in terms of mongering if you happen to speak Mandarin, as he does).

I was very worried that he would encounter some racism, but he was warmly 'broken in' by Mara, who later fed him strawberries and cream in the garden, which he will never forget- and then he even got to AO with Michelle (an EE brunette who looks like a 'Private' porn star with legs forever. And a 'photographic' memory FWIW!) He is, I might add a man of great charisma, everywhere he went in Germany he would introduce himself as 'Jackie Chan' clearly he is not, but that just broke the ice everywhere, smiles and laughs all round, you could almost hear people thinking. 'Hey, this Asian guy is OK! '

The moral of my post is that Bernds is just an incredible experience. I have read how you have to watch the clock and keep track of your Euros in other places. Seriously, even if I got to fuck miley Cyrus, it is not worth it, IMHO, give me women who look like they could be your neighbor's wife, and fuck with the same enthusiasm, and you have as good as it gets to the real thing without all the bullshit! If you want to fuck glamour girls who are there for just the paycheck, sign up for porn, at least you'll get paid too!Hi,

You are just talking about your "Expert monger from China"

Did you fuck some girls as well?

BL

Nille Copenhagen
09-29-13, 15:59
Hi Nille,

Without going into too much detail, how far away is Samya from Hennef? Is it in Koln or Bonn? Do you drive yourself?

Thanks!

EBYes, I always have a car available. Samya is in South Cologne and can be reach by public trans.

25min by car / taxi from Hennef.

Cheers

Oliver Kitsoff
09-29-13, 16:42
This may put BL into a nicer mood. But in fairness to all I should have included these details:

We were there from about 1pm till 11. 30pm 6 June 2012.

Mr. Chan fucked Mara, and Michelle (twice, second time AO and anal) I think he also enjoyed another girl but can't recall.

I fucked Susan twice, I love curvy women with big arses! I also fucked michelle who is an enerjetic cock gobbler, but cumming by mouth is not one of the ways I cum easily, I prefer a handjob with having my balls tongued! And wanted to bang that tall black one Leonie, but both times I've been there her attitude is pretty stuck up, so I passed, I may have fucked someone other than Susan that day too, but she was the stand-out.

It was a big day, we were jet lagged as we just flew in from Sydney the morning, that's why my memory of it is not the best.

On my first visit in May 2012, I fucked Mara, Nathalie (on the swing in the bar downstairs) a cute little Brazilian called 'Star' (?) not sure. And of course the fantastic MILF and cocksucking champion Babsie!

OK

TankTank123
09-30-13, 09:55
If go to:

http://schieferhof.istmein.de/#girls

And click on the "I am over 18 years old" button, Magda is the blond woman in the center. I last saw her 4 months ago and the pictures are how I remember her.

BoomerDear Boomer, thank you for the link.

I did try to enter their website before and after my visits, but could not see any photos. I have the same problem with your link. I think my IPAD has compatibility problems with their website.

I hope that if Connie sees this post, she might do something about this. My IPAD has no problems with the websites of any other club.

I went for the 3rd day in a row on Thursday to see if I could catch Magda, but alas she was off that day.

Tobyg
10-01-13, 01:57
I went for the 3rd day in a row on Thursday to see if I could catch Magda, but alas she was off that day.This is Magda

Wassab
10-01-13, 10:14
This is MagdaYup, that's Magda alright. Had an amazing time with her yesterday. Her giddy demeanor might throw some of you off but once in the Zimmer she can be your girlfriend.

TankTank123
10-01-13, 12:51
This is MagdaThank you for the photo. The one I met has the same head shape but without the large breasts and the hips were also not so fleshy. If it is the same girl, then she has lost much weight, but is even more attractive as her body is now proportionate to her relatively small head.

Masayama
10-01-13, 18:24
One earlier post mentioned an energetic Magda with large tits. Yesterday, I met a very slim (short-cropped) blonde Polish Magda but with almost flat saggy tits, .Could the description of the latter "Magda" fit Anna?

TankTank123
10-02-13, 00:24
Could the description of the latter "Magda" fit Anna?It was not Anna as I had a session with Anna last week, a great one. Anna was slightly taller and more voluptuous than this girl I saw.

Myrmidon
10-04-13, 15:20
Over the years (5) I have developed a couple of favourite Ladies here: Babsi and Katja. So I was a little disappointed to learn that Babsi had retired last May, after 20 years! So yeah, we're talking MILF'S.

There were no young spinner Romanians, as I had previously seen. In the end on this day, I saw three Ladies: Katja, Tina and Angelina. First was Katja, who's hair was auburn but now is black. She has a womanly figure and she is a professional at pleasing her clients. You never feel rushed, DFK is abundant, as is breast sucking, body kissing, (by both parties) and just plain mutual satisfaction.

The session with Katja proceeded much as it had on previous visits, with much kissing, all over, multiple positions and good talk. In the end it was Katja's vigorous cowgirl that rendered me complete. More kissing and conversation and we were done for 30 minutes.

Back to the lounges to relax. It was quite cool during my visit and robes were available for warmth in the outside garden.

It was while I was outside that I encountered Tina, obviously trying to channel Tina Louise from 'Gilligan's Island'. And doing a fine job. We chatted briefly, she was quite interested in my home country. No mention of zimmer. We parted as I headed back in, but a short time later we bumped into each other on a sofa in the upstairs lounge. A brief further quick chat and then the Bernd's shuffle took place.

It may sound repetitious, but in the zimmer it's all kissing, multiple positions and a great shot. All the Ladies at Bernd's deliver the same high quality service. And trust me, they don't give up! After multiple sessions this week I was slowing but Tina persisted. Using many tricks, she succeeded where others have failed.

Now I was sure that I was done for the day, (day 4 of my tour). I had a large, stupid grin. We still had about 1. 5 hours to catch our return train, so I chilled in the lower lounge. But throughout the day I had been eyeing a brunette with impressive bolt-ons. Now I found myself, exhausted, sitting on the sofa at the bottom of the stairs, looking directly at this lovely, naked Lady as she sat on the barstool by the leather swing chair. She smiled. I smiled back, but felt no signs of life. I decided to tell her that I was kaput, but the music was too loud. So I got up and walked over, standing very close in front of her. There was some idle chit chat and I indicated that I was through for the day and just waiting for my friend. Angelina said Ohhhh as she slipped her hand beneath my towel. Suddenly she made contact and the first stirrings began. OMG, I was getting hard again!

She was well aware of my state, but I figured I would probably not be able to complete. In the end, we headed into the 'windowed' room to 'fool around' and I sat on the sofa. With me slouched on the sofa she began kissing me from head to toe. She offered, and I accepted her bolt-ons. Before I knew it, the BJ had started. And what a BJ it was. So far the Ladies had all used a no-hands technique, picking you up with their mouth only. This wonderful action continued for several minutes more. Then she asked if I wanted sex? Doh! By now I was up, but pretty sure I was out of fuel.

Well, first there was a vigorous reverse cowgirl. I started to get woosie. Then she flipped around and was pounding one out with a raucous cowgirl. All throughout, I did not move. She presented to me and she did all the heavy lifting. Suddenly I felt a stirring deep within my loins. OMG, I was going to shoot again! And I did! Angelina became a Star in my eyes. And we would return again in a few days!

Nille Copenhagen
10-04-13, 15:38
I got a naked massage by Katja, I got erection and she play with my dick, but didn't allow me to cum as she said I should saved it for later sessions. LOL.

Some girls have been working at Bernds since forever so it's fair enough that they retire.

I remember a local guy, he has taken the same lady every week, during 20 years or so, WTF, get a wife! LOL

Myrmidon
10-04-13, 17:30
On Monday last I again met up with my wingman. Man, is he hooked on Bernd's! And why not? The place is fantastic. Last Thursday I saw my favourite Katja, new to me Tina, and miracle worker Angelina. Today both Katja and Tina were off. But their roles were ably filled by a couple of Bernd's legends.

First, there was Anna, the tall blonde from Poland. She has shoulder length hair, a fine set of D's and is womanly in her figure. I approached Anna at her usual post on the sofa, downstairs. We had exchanged looks over the days and years, but this was to be my first time with her. She seem pleasantly surprised that I had joined her. There was a little conversation before things took their normal course. DFK, stroking, using her nails, BJ, BLS, perineum stroking and licking. It was all there. Some intro stuff on the sofa, while the heavy stuff came in the zimmer. As did I, within a half hour.

Anna had had to work real hard on this shot, so I was loosing my confidence. Somewhat reluctantly I carried on. As an aside, I had met Nina, a thin blonde from Italy on Thursday, but when I met her today, she was Bulgarian! Another red flag. Also making changes today was Erika: from blonde spikes, to a flame red top over black short hair on the sides. Who can keep up?

After an hour or two rest it was time to try again. My cohort had sampled the delights of Steffi. Well tanned, she has a full back tattoo and straight auburn hair. She is very pretty. Based on his recommendation, and my own being drawn to her, I approached her in the upstairs lounge, under the porno screen. The dance was the same as before. Steffi is a terrific kisser and her B's were a delight to sample. It really does get repetitious, but after kissing and stroking on the sofa, it was off to the zimmer for more fun. But this time I really was drained. It took Steffi till almost the 20 minute mark to finish me off! Theses girls are all phenom's! Another classic half hour.

OK, so surely now I was done. Or so I thought. Chatting with Thursday's heroine, Angelina in the garden began to lead to stirrings. But we parted ways upon re-entering the building. Shortly thereafter I found her on the downstairs sofa. I deposited myself next to her, and you've heard this story before. In the downstairs room I was certain of failure. But Angelina is a pro: she never quit, she came up with some ideas that I had never thought of, and will keep to myself! It took almost an hour, but she did it! And just as we had to leave for our return train. Two saves on two nights. This girl is a Hall of Famer!

TankTank123
10-05-13, 02:33
As an aside, I had met Nina, a thin blonde from Italy on Thursday, but when I met her today, she was Bulgarian!I must commend you for your extremely entertaining reports!

I did have a session with Nina on that Thursday. She told me that she was Bulgarian and made no mention of Italy during the whoe session. Your instincts were correct. She was the weakest of the 6 girls I tried in Bernds that week. Tina was unbeatable in the efforts she put in, and Anna a close second.

But I am now slightly puzzled. On that Thursday, I was 'competing' to get hold of time with Tina and Angelina with a gentleman who was speaking with a clearly Australian accent to an oriental gentleman the whole day there. On reading the posts on this thread last week, I assumed it was Oliver Kitsoff and his Chinese friend as his post had a mention of Sydney. Does this mean that there were 3 of us competing for Tina and Angelina on that Thursday or were you hanging around with his Chinese friend too?

Myrmidon
10-05-13, 13:12
a gentleman who was speaking with a clearly Australian accent to an oriental gentleman the whole day there. On reading the posts on this thread last week, I assumed it was Oliver Kitsoff and his Chinese friend as his post had a mention of Sydney. Does this mean that there were 3 of us competing for Tina and Angelina on that Thursday or were you hanging around with his Chinese friend too?Sorry, I don't recall hearing an Australian accent, but I did chat a fair bit with a fellow Canadian.

Excess
10-05-13, 18:04
Sorry, I don't recall hearing an Australian accent, but I did chat a fair bit with a fellow Canadian.Anyone confusing these two nations for each other is in extreme daanger of having his towel ripped to shreds on the spot.

Great reports.

Enjoy.

E.

TankTank123
10-06-13, 03:02
Anyone confusing these two nations for each other is in extreme daanger of having his towel ripped to shreds on the spot. E.My apologies to Myrmidon. I often confuse the two accents.

But towel ripped off by whom? If by the girls, then it would be extreme pleasure rather than danger, as there are no sharks in Bernds!

Myrmidon
10-06-13, 14:24
My apologies to Myrmidon. I often confuse the two accents.

But towel ripped off by whom? If by the girls, then it would be extreme pleasure rather than danger, as there are no sharks in Bernds!No apologies required, Sir. And I agree, the girls are phenoms. In fact, I would easily vote for Angelina as one of my All-Time favourites, along with Katja, Steffi, and so on. Great club, IMHO.

Yahera
10-17-13, 19:05
Anyone know if Mara is still around?

Boomer10
10-18-13, 02:41
Anyone know if Mara is still around?Yes, Mara is still around.

Their new web site lists the women and days they normally are present.

http://schieferhof.istmein.de/#damen

Boomer

Yahera
10-20-13, 20:43
Anyone interested in joining in a visit to Bernds on Monday 21 October or Wednesday 23 October?

Sapper
01-06-14, 00:42
Hi there,

Anything happening at Bernds, it seems very quiet, I am over in a few days and wondered if it was still open?

Boomer10
01-06-14, 03:40
Hi there,

Anything happening at Bernds, it seems very quiet, I am over in a few days and wondered if it was still open?Still open. A few of the girls have left (Dana, Leonie, Susan) but some new girls (Angelina, Lilly, Nina, Violet) have started working there. Mara, Magda, Katja, Anna, Angie, Alina and others are still there. I heard Mara and Katja will be taking about a 2 week holiday in January.

Gooroox
01-06-14, 22:01
Still open. A few of the girls have left (Dana, Leonie, Susan) but some new girls (Angelina, Lilly, Nina, Violet) have started working there. Mara, Magda, Katja, Anna, Angie, Alina and others are still there. I heard Mara and Katja will be taking about a 2 week holiday in January.I think Bulgarian gal Angelina has left Schieferhof, her countrywoman Nina is still working there (I enjoyed her service about a month ago and was quite satisfied, although she does not master the art of love the way Katja or Mara do). A new MILF named Eva (from Slovakia, in her 40s) has joined the club and got very decent reviews on other forums.

Neurosynth
01-14-14, 22:50
I hope to visit Thurs or Fri, but am wondering who is working this week, and in particular if Mara is there or, as mentioned previously, is gone for a couple weeks.

Wassab
01-15-14, 02:37
I think Bulgarian gal Angelina has left Schieferhof, her countrywoman Nina is still working there (I enjoyed her service about a month ago and was quite satisfied, although she does not master the art of love the way Katja or Mara do). A new MILF named Eva (from Slovakia, in her 40s) has joined the club and got very decent reviews on other forums.Gooroox,

Would you know if Eva works Mondays and Tuesdays? Also, did you happen to see Stefany (MILF with lots of tatoos) on your last visit? I am planning to visit Bernds on one of my lay over in FRA and I heard lots of talents have moved on but don't mind trying this new MILF Eva if she works on Monday or Tuesday.

W.

Gooroox
01-16-14, 17:56
Wassab,

I have no idea if Eva works on the days you mentioned. I guess your Stefany is now called Jacqueline since she returned to Schieferhof some time ago. By the way, I saw her on my last visit but she left the club in the late afternoon (I didn't see he servicing any mongers on that particular day, that's the probably the reason why)


Gooroox,

Would you know if Eva works Mondays and Tuesdays? Also, did you happen to see Stefany (MILF with lots of tatoos) on your last visit? I am planning to visit Bernds on one of my lay over in FRA and I heard lots of talents have moved on but don't mind trying this new MILF Eva if she works on Monday or Tuesday.

W.

Neurosynth
01-17-14, 02:45
So I'll be at Bernd's tonight (Friday). Anyone else? Still curious whether Mara is there now. I'll scan recent reports but is there anyone new I should be sure to check out?

Wassab
01-18-14, 12:53
Wassab,

I have no idea if Eva works on the days you mentioned. I guess your Stefany is now called Jacqueline since she returned to Schieferhof some time ago. By the way, I saw her on my last visit but she left the club in the late afternoon (I didn't see he servicing any mongers on that particular day, that's the probably the reason why) Thanks, Gooroox. I will make my visit to the Hof on February 23 and hope some of the old gang still around, Magda, Jacqueline, Anna and the new MILF, Ev, still around.

Cheers

GentlemanAlway
01-24-14, 16:47
Good Evening Gents,

I have had the opportunity to visit such places as living room and Dolche Vita while on business in Dusseldorph. I will arrive in Frankfurt on the 2oth of Feb, I know they will have a messe in Frankfurt so I know things will be packed, LOL. I was wondering if anyone could give me advice on how to access Samaya and Bernds via train from Frankfurt, I have heard great things via this forum and would like to experience for myself, unless those more experienced with the outlay of Germany may feel that I am going to far out my way?

LongRange
01-30-14, 00:37
Good Evening Gents,

I have had the opportunity to visit such places as living room and Dolche Vita while on business in Dusseldorph. I will arrive in Frankfurt on the 2oth of Feb, I know they will have a messe in Frankfurt so I know things will be packed, LOL. I was wondering if anyone could give me advice on how to access Samaya and Bernds via train from Frankfurt, I have heard great things via this forum and would like to experience for myself, unless those more experienced with the outlay of Germany may feel that I am going to far out my way?Its, been posted a few times, for Bernds, you need to get to Henef BF, from FFM, there a few ways, ask at the Deutsche bahn info point, at Benefit catch Bus22, and get of in Lichtenberg, then its short walk back the way the arrived past Reuters hotel, and you are there, the bus returns every hour uptown midnight, or you could get a taxi, depends on your budget, hope that helps.

VSail
01-30-14, 17:58
Hi guys,

I will be in Cologne for a business trip in the second week of Feb.

I haven't been in a FKK before and I was planing to visit Mondial or / and Samya until I have read many posts here about Bernd's. Since GFE with DFK is one of the two most important criterias for me, posts about Bernd's which were telling many other extras like cosy ambiance, nudity, and public action, has confused me a lot. Quality of the line up is (or maybe "was" after reading posts in that tread) also important but especailly I prefer to have a passionate intercourse with a woman who knows what she is doing or a duo with two of such capable women. And to be sure about the quality of the service I can make concessions to a limit for the lineup.

With the 30e entry and 30e for 20' session Mondial may be a good alternative to get knowing the girls, but it is still a possibilty to have many girls saying don't do that, don't touch there, don't kiss and leave the club without geting waht you were looking for. With 50e entry and 50e for 30' session. 25e for additional 30' Samya has bigger risks. Beside all this cost issues I am not a sex machine who may try lots of girls one by one to find the right one. So I thought that Bernd's may be a good alternative for not worrying about the service.

But in the other hand since I will be on a business trip I don't have much free time. Only compleatly free day is Sunday that I arrive to Cologne and Bernd's is closed. Next best option seems as Wednesday and I can be in Bernd's at best 17:30.

So I am not sure will it wort to travel that distance to have 4 or 5 hours in Bern's. Also I don't speak any German so traveling may have some extra difficulties based on lack of language.

At that point I would be happy to hear advises from the ones who know Bernd's and 2 or at least 1 of the other clubs.

VSail
01-30-14, 19:17
As I read in many of the post DFK and BBBJ in public area is very comon in Bernd's and also public sex may be an option in some cases. My question is billing of that service. In the Bernd's site it is mentioned as session for 30' is 50e. My question about "when that 30' starts". I haven't read any post except one about overcharing in Brend's and this post was about overcharging related with service not with time so probably this is not a subject to worry about but I just want to know how thing are going about that issue.

LongRange
01-30-14, 23:41
Its, been posted a few times, for Bernds, you need to get to Henef BF, from FFM, there a few ways, ask at the Deutsche bahn info point, at Benefit catch Bus22, and get of in Lichtenberg, then its short walk back the way the arrived past Reuters hotel, and you are there, the bus returns every hour uptown midnight, or you could get a taxi, depends on your budget, hope that helps.Sorry for the typo, it should At Henef catch bus 522,

Long-range.

Boomer10
02-01-14, 02:30
As I read in many of the post DFK and BBBJ in public area is very comon in Bernd's and also public sex may be an option in some cases. My question is billing of that service. In the Bernd's site it is mentioned as session for 30' is 50e. My question about "when that 30' starts". I haven't read any post except one about overcharing in Brend's and this post was about overcharging related with service not with time so probably this is not a subject to worry about but I just want to know how thing are going about that issue.Remember YMMV with everything at all FKKs. At Bernds, BBBJ are standard in the public rooms. If the BBBJ starts, you've committed yourself to a session. Your time would start when the girl asks if you're ready to go to a room. I've never seen a girl say no to a public session but I have heard that it sometimes happens. If you're interested in someone who really seems to enjoy being watched, try a session with Mara.

To your other question. 1730 on Wednesday should be good day. My experience is most of the girls are present and it tends to be one of the less busy days. Bernds closes at 2400 but the "early shift" will start leaving around 21 to 22 if it's not busy. So you should have 4-5 hours of best Bernds has to offer. Other options that are close would be Cat Exclusiv and Traum Paradies (neither are FKKs, closer to a standard bordellos). Tram Paradies is about 20 mins away and Cat Exclusiv is another 10 min away by car. I don't recall either having a lounge area, so it's session and leave. Parksauna Residenz is about 25 mins away is probably one of the closer FKK type clubs. Very nice facilities but I haven't been there recently.

Boomer

VSail
02-03-14, 02:29
As I read posts in other FKK threads I saw that Panthera (PH) and Livingroom (LR) are some others in a reasonable distance to Cologne which come into prominence with their service quality, nudity and some public action options.

At that point I decided to have two different visits by forcing my schedule. First visit which is lineup oriented will be done to Mondial or Samya where there will be a larger lineup with more tight teen options (at least my expectation) , but with risk of low service qulaity in the room which may vary dramatically from one girl to the other. As far as I understand to be a foreigner who don't speak German won't be a big problem in these clubs since customer portfolio is more multinational.

My second visit will be service oriented with lower lineup expactations but still having a limit of doable. Possible options are PH, LR and Bernds. According to what I have read in the threads of each club still Bernd's service quality has a place as "legendary". But in the orther hand as far as I read in their threads other two have similar service standart (except CIM) , but better facilities, which I think a reasonable plus for the periods between sessions. Accessibility of PH and Bernds are in similar level which seems not too easy for me as a first time foreigner in Germany, where LR, with a one train ride range, has a small advantege when it is compared with the other two. Also by means of cost LR and PH has advantages but since according to what I have red in this thread, my opinion about Bernds service is legendary so cost disadvantage may be tolarated.

My most important concern about Bernds is about being a foreigner who don't speak German. Since Bernds seems much more regular's club when it is compared with the others, I think the worst think that can happen in Bernds is not being able to catch the cosy ambience, and being left out except times just before the start of a session. Because one of the best thing about Bernd's that I have red is, the friendly enviorment, but in the other hand generally such posts belong to the mongers who had some previous visits.

So especially for the ones who has experienace gained by presence in both Bernds and at least one of the other two (LR, PH) what would be your advice for a rookie in FKK Clubs. One more information for the ones who will share their advices, nlike my previous post it seems instead of Wednesday 1730 probably I will be able to be in bernds or in other options on Thursday 1300.

Wassab
03-19-14, 21:36
Sorry for the typo, it should At Henef catch bus 522,

Long-range.If I arrive in Hennef via DB, do I need to pay additional fare to take this bus?

Thanks in advance.

W

Tommyseville
04-01-14, 06:43
tr fkk bernds, schieferhof 28, 53773 hennef (sieg) , germany.

monday, mid-march 2014.

schieferhof 28, 53773 hennef (sieg) , germany.

+49 2248 1529.

http://schieferhof.istmein.de/

http://www.bernds-sauna-club.de/hofgalerie.html

last club of a multiday tour:

golden time, bruggen.

living room, kaarst.

babylon, elsdorf.

mondial, koln.

bernds, hennef (lichtenberg)

i had allocated a weekday to make the pilgrimage to bernds, the mother of all fkk clubs in germany. i had heard so much about this place over the years and yet never made the trip; reviews always touted the service levels of the ladies there but commented on how the lineup skewed older and heavier than places like oase. but after 6 years of fkking, i thought it was about time to visit bernds.

and i'm glad i did.

getting there.

bernds is a house on a residential street in a small hamlet southeast of köln. there is no signage on the building or signposts in the town itself to let you know there is such an establishment nearby; the place is definitely under the radar except for its world-renonwed fame.

i made plans to stay the night at gasthaus reuter, on the "main street" of lichtenberg, which does have a big sign. making a reservation with herr reuter over email was easy-no credit card required. there were just a few other guests that night, judging by the breakfast tables herr reuter setup for us the next morning.

breakfast at reuter's the next morning was generous and extensive btw; soft boiled egg, bircher muesli, plus a plate of coldcuts and a basket of rolls that i used to make sandwiches for my flight later that day. all for 35 eur. rooms are quite spartan (see reuter's website) but with free wifi and me spending most of my time at the club it didn't matter.

tour.

bernds is just a converted family home, so the action is limited to the ground floor and basement, with access to a small garden (although a little cold this time of year).

buzz in at the front door and you check in at a small counter in the vestibule; entrance fee is 70 eur and you provide your name for a little card that tallies your sessions over the day, as with babylon the previous day. you pay when you leave (or one of the girls you sessioned with leaves).

locker room feels like the old laundry room / walkway to the backyard; just half-height steel lockers as in a factory breakroom, reminiscent of treff 188 or neby. no separate money lockers-there are some in the entry, but those are for the ladies. the small dining room has seats for 6 diners, with an antique glass cold buffet housing salads and coldcuts, and a hot tray holding the meal of the day. a small 2-spot shower is off to the side. there is a small powder room in the entry, just as there would be in a regular family home.

the main public area is the bar / living room, which is about the size of a good-sized regular living room (which i guess it is). a flat-screen tv on the wall plays older porn movies, and the girls lounge around on the sofas.

downstairs in the basement is another bar facing a large sectional sofa and a single round bar table, with a corridor leading down to a small sauna and another 2-spot shower and nearby urinal. just next to the sectional sofa is a glass-walled fuckroom and a couple more fuckrooms.

food and drink.

today's meal offering was better than expected; a beef / yellow corn / green bean stew flavored with a bit of paprika, with white rice. green beans looked fresh, not canned, and the beef was tender. together with the salad and sliced baguettes it made a pretty good lunch. the cream puffs in the cooler for dessert didn't look as appetizing though, and the grapes / pears seemed to have been untouched there for a few days.

the stew got refreshed later in the evening, along with a new tray of rice, so i think the food is prepared ahead of time by a local restaurant and then brought in for the club staff to reheat and put out in the dining room. i had pretty low expectations for the food so this was actually a pleasant surprise.

i didn't order any hard liquor, but i think it's included with the entry fee. beer was either botled früh kölsch or a pilsner, maybe even stella artois? cola light was coke zero from a big plastic bottle.

lineup.

i had mentally prepared myself so i wouldn't be disappointed by the lineup at bernds. reading through years of reports on different boards told me that the lineup skewed toward an older, heavier set, and that i should not expect the young slim gazelles i have come to expect at other clubs.

the two ladies who checked me in and took my entrance fee were right up there in the gilf category-the boss type reminded me slightly of an older melinda gates (like maybe her mom?) and the other one, who actually still had a decent body under that tight white dress, showed years of experience on her face. not sure if they were available; wouldn't be my type anyway.

the naked ladies in the club were all in the 30-40 year old range except for one young pretty brunette that i saw coming out of her session after i ate my lunch. hey, where did she come from? she was right up there with the a-team crew at mainhattan or babylon the previous day, and i made a mental note to find her later. turned out to be just one of a trio of new girls in the bernds lineup-all of the new three were young and pretty and well within my expectations of an fkk a-team.

report.

the two gilfs who got me checked in asked if i spoke german-i explained "nur ein bisschen", only a little bit, so we got by in a little english and a little german. one of the gilfs showed me to the locker room and i changed and showered. i had arrived around 2pm, and so a number of girls were already in the rooms having sessions with guys coming in for lunch hour fun.

i hadn't eaten lunch yet, so i went to the dining room and ate the beef stew, rice, salad, and baguette slices, washing it down with a cola light. better than expected.

i noticed that i was definitely the only non-german guy there, and also younger than the most of the patrons by 10 years or so. one portly guy was wearing a beach towel around his waist instead of the house-issued towels, i suppose because he needed the extra coverage. some were coming out of sessions as i finished eating; they must have arrived when the club opened and banged out a session first thing.

i started making to-do lists from the girls that i saw. so far the top girl was a petite blonde who i met in the locker room; she was bundled up in a robe to go smoke outside, but had a great smile and a seemingly great attitude. the slender model girl i had a fleeting glimpse of earlier was nowhere to be found, unfortunately. the rest of the ladies were, well, ladies, not girls, and i wasn't really feeling it with them.

i sat in the main room with a cola light and just hung out for a while, trying to pick up phrases in the intermittent german conversations and watching the rather lame porn on the flat screen tv. it wasn't nina hartley / ron jeremy full bush 90s vhs porn, but almost as bad. i wasn't interested in the couple of older gals there, erika and angie, so i checked out the basement downstairs.

i hung out downstairs for a while-the two blondes down there didn't talk to me at all, but then again i didn't bother making eye contact or initiating conversation myself. i tried to take a nap, as i was a little tired, but was a little too wired so i went back upstairs.

i ended up doing this upstairs / downstairs cummute a few times during the course of the day; unlike clubs that are more spread out horizontally, there really wasn't anywhere else to go at bernds.

at the main living room upstairs the petite blonde was sitting at the back sofa, so i sat next to her and introduced myself. jenny spoke good english and smiled a lot. beach towel guy was sitting a few spots away on the right sofa next to erika, while angie was sitting on the left sofa. erika i recognized from her photos on the bernds website-she was a bit heavier and older than in the pics but easily recognizable. angie reminded me of a zaftig former coworker, not really my type at all with those tattoos and extra pounds.

* * *

jenny from greece. petite blonde, late 20s, friendly, very service-oriented.

eventually jenny and i started making out, then she reached into my towel and started caressing little tommy, who by now was up and ready to go. jenny parted my towel and started a nice bbbj, kneeling on the sofa so i could start feeling her pussy. i looked over at erika and angie and the beach towel guy-the ladies flashed me sly smiles while the beach towel guy tried to pretend that he hadn't been watching. hey, you don't have to look *that* unimpressed! the bbbj went on for quite a while, giving me time to get jenny wet enought to insert my right forefinger into her pussy while rubbing her clit with my thumb. it was my first ever bbbj in the main room of a club, with all the lights on and a group of onlookers. i guess i've had some sessions in partytreffs, but as those are usually in fuckrooms it felt really different. but natural, in a way.

"want to go to the room?" she asked with a smile, coming up for air."sure, twist my, uh, arm" i replied with a big smile, nodding at my boner that was out there for all to see.

we took a room with a big bed and a long horizontal mirror on the opposite wall. jenny gave me a long bbbj, revisiting our finger-ready positioning and letting me get a good view in the mirror. we started out in mish and she'd reach around to feel my balls as i was on top, moving her legs around in different ways. lots of eye contact and dfk all around. i switched us around to doggy, lying-down doggy, and then standup doggy, finally finishing with the gratis bbbjtcim that bernds is known for. great session.

* * *

i didn't know how the payment system worked, so jenny had to explain to me that i should pay when i departed the club, not right away after the session as with most fkks. i had experienced that system at babylon the previous day, so it didn't faze me.

after showering i hung out with a beer back in the main room for a while, taking the same spot i had when jenny and i did our bbbj start. jenny came over when done with her freshening up and we sat together for a while, talking about traveling and greece and germany.

i had her introduce me to the other ladies-angie in her spot on the left, erika in her spot on the right, mara the fresh-faced farmers daughter who was peeking into the living room, and the two gilfs names i promptly forgot. like somehow my subconscious said,"no way you're fucking them" and blocked the information from writing to memory. oh well. magda came into the room and sat down-she was a taller short-haired blonde that had a bit of charlize theron in her face-in her website photos she is a bit plumper, and so her slimmer figure was actually quite nice, even if her large breasts had to hang a bit now on her more slender frame. she didn't seem as friendly as jenny either, though.

i went downstairs for a bit and sat on the sofa with mara, who looks quite young even after working at bernds for 10 years. mara spoke excellent english, said she was dutch and i had to do the math to figure out how old she would've been when she started. a bit more serious than jenny, but possibly doable. i envisioned her in a plaid shirt and jeans bucking hay bales onto a truck-she'd be perfect for a john deere commercial.

i might've fallen asleep-i did close my eyes for a bit, and opened them to see mara and some guy with full sleeve tats making out next to me, then mara reaching down between his legs and starting a bbbj. the etiquette of this was a little strange-they were right next to me on the big gray couch, i could reach out and finger mara if i wanted to-but was i supposed to not look over? i looked at the two other guys downstairs with me and did as they did, sneaking glances every so often at the action. eventually mara and sleeve tat guy went over to the room right next to the sofa, with the big glass window, and started fucking. i saw mara's feet up in the air as the guy fucked her in mish but tried to be cool and not crane my neck for a better view.

i decided to do some sauna time. that sauna was hot! but i did have it all to myself, which was relaxing. one problem with bernds is that there really aren't many places to go as it is so small. i found myself wishing for a tv to watch futbal downstairs. not like there wasn't enough to watch down there-i think i saw at least 5 couch starts (besides my own). i guess i could have broken out my airplane novel, as i usually do at mainhattan in the wellness area, but that felt like it would've been weird.

i did bump into the melanie rios girl as she went out into the backyard for a smoke, all wrapped up in a robe. benita said she was from italy, and i exclaimed,"molto bene!" upon which she responded, in a very authentic-sounding italian accent,"grazie!". either she was actually italian or had lived there long enough to sound like one. if so, that's the first time i have seen an actual italian in a sexclub-usually they're romanians who claim to be italiana as a marketing differentiator.

the rest of the afternoon was spent mostly on the downstairs sofa, watching mara and magda and the downstairs blonde who i never learned her name doing couch bbbjs as part of their session starts.

one older guy standing at the round bar table had a long conversation with magda, then she went over to give him a kiss, then bent over to start blowing him. as this was right in my line of sight i saw how magda's large tits would hang pendulously as she worked his cock. they soon went over to one of the downstairs rooms. meanwhile, me and the other guy there, and the 2 other working girls and the clothed bartender lady just took it in stride.

on one of my trips back to my locker to check phone texts i saw a pretty younger girl in the hallway-she had big eyes and highlighted hair, and had a little resemblance to porn star melanie rios. i made a mental note to seek her out later.

one of mara's three couch starts that i happened to be sitting next to was with an older, rather obese guy, who i had the unfortunate opportunity to see towel-less before they got comfy on the sofa to my left. they started making out and mara started giving him a hand job, then pulled out a bottle of lube from her hooker purse and started doing something else. i couldn't see from my angle (although i had a great arms-length view of mara's pussy as she bent over the reclining guy) but from the scent in the air i think she was giving the guy a good fingering. i decided at that point to switch it up a bit and hang out upstairs.

i was in luck. sitting at the back corner, next to "my spot" from earlier, was the pretty slender brunette i had seen way earlier in the day! to me she had great cheekbones and a fine thin nose, and reminded me of internet pornstar nelly (from alsscan and other sites). i plunked down in the spot right next to her and started a conversation.

* * *

elena from bulgaria. slender, fine boned, early 20s, looks like als nelly. super hot, would be a star at any other fkk, including gt or oase.

elena said this was just her 10th day at bernds. i knew she wasn't one of the usual crew as i had never heard of hot young things working at bernds, and this was a welcome surprise. her english wasn't so great, but neither was her deutsch, so we made by in english. when we started making out in the main room, she mentioned something about french, at which point i switched to speaking francais, but in retrospect i think she was asking me if i wanted her to start a bbbj right there. lost in translation, lol. she ended up asking if i just wanted to go to the room, figuring i wasn't up for a public bbbj because i didn't respond affirmatively (although at this point i didn't care anymore) and so we got up and went to one of the rooms near the entry.

funny thing is, at other places when girls would ask if i wanted bbbj or cbj, saying it in german "francoisze ohne or mit gummi?" i would totally get it. somehow translated to english and in the heat of the moment (making out with the hottest chick i'd seen all day) got me distracted.

i liked the room we took-it was all white with a modern light fixture near the bed and lots of light streaming in from sheer curtains covering a big window. with long full-length mirrors on the walls it made for great opticals as elena and i made out and fucked. i was having the hardest time popping, this being the last day of a multi-day tour, and i'm sure she was wondering "where did this guy come from?" as i moved her around into many different positions, enjoying the view of her pussy lips gripping my cock in doggy, and the sooooo good feeling of fucking her in lying-down doggy. eventually i got tired and actually kind of cramped up in a hip muscle-i really do have to get more in shape before these multiday fkk tours. i lay back on the bed and had her finish me off in cowgirl; it took a lot of concentration but i did it! i felt like i had just ran a marathon, although i think we had just gone a bit over 30 minutes. one good thing about bernds is that you don't seem to get clock watchers-i never really felt like i needed to check my divers watch that i habitually set when going to the room.

during a bit of after sex talk (ast) elena said she was one of three new girls at bernds-there was another young bulgarian and a girl from italy, along with the regular crew.

* * *

after showering i got a beer and sat back in my spot upstairs on the back red sofa. elena came by after her freshening up and sat to me on the right again, squeezing my bare knee as she sat down with a little smile. to my left sat the other new young bulgarian girl, maria-she was a little more gnd than elena, but had nicely shaped tits and a slim / athletic frame. maria would reach out and nudge me from time to time with a bare foot that had "blessing" tattooed in it in cursive english; i think bernds is supposed to be a real no-approach club but the new girls probably thought they could cross the line a bit.

i personally like clubs where the girls are allowed to approach the guys, as long as they aren't pushy or bitchy when u-turn them away. at big clubs like acapulco, the no-approach policy makes the mood really weird-like awkward tweens at a middle school dance who stay in their own cliques and don't approach each other, even with the party music going on. at bernds because of the intimate size of the rooms (think of your living room at home) it would be kind of weird to have girls going up to guys all the time and then moving off if they got rejected-where would they go?

benita came over and sat down to elena's right, with erika to her right. one other patron sat in the chair under the flat screen tv. i debated for a long time whether i'd have another pop in me. she was the first runner-up in this beauty pageant to elena's miss nrw saunaclub title (miss fkk world would still be in giessen) and i did think she was quite attractive, but i really was kind of fucked out after so many days in a row. maybe i'm getting old, or maybe getting jaded.

benita struck up a conversation auf deutsch with an older german guy who came in the room and sat to maria's left. i could tell she was talking about koln and brought up pascha, but the conversation was going too fast for my limited german skills. in retrospect i am actually pretty impressed by her linguistic ability-too bad i didn't go for trying out her lingual skills too.

she moved over to sit next to him, continuing their conversation, but he got up and walked away, and a rather interesting expression flashed on her face for a bit-something like, i chatted up that dude all this time and he didn't take me to the room?

the night manager lady poked her head in and said something to the effect of,"hey, there are five girls in here and just one guy-you should all go to the room" and all the girls laughed. i was thinking, i don't think i can manage another one, much less five.

i probably could've rested a bit more and mustered up another session in an hour or so, but decided to bail around 9pm. i had to wake up early to drive back to fra for my flight the next morning, and so i knew i wanted to turn in early.

i thought about just hanging around and drinking, since i had walked the one block from gasthaus reuter and booze is included with your entry fee, but somehow didn't feel like doing that either. i hope i'm not getting burned out on this hobby, as others have mentioned on the boards.

note: you know you've had plenty of fucking in the past few days when you decide to go to sleep early instead of fucking a hot young girl that looks like melanie rios for 50 eur.

so i cleared out my locker and went to the front counter to pay my tally of 100 eur. the manager lady called out for elena and jenny, and elena came over to give me a parting kiss. when i paid the manager asked me in english, how was elena's service? to which i replied,"wunderbar!". i later found it interesting that she didn't ask about jenny, one of the usual crew. maybe the new girls are in a probationary period or something.

i walked back to hotel reuter in the chill on wobbly legs-not from drinking, but because i was truly sore in muscles i didn't even know could be exercised. the next morning i remember feeling aches in my abs and upper butt area and thinking, i've never felt sore in these places before, even after years of working out. i really think someone should invent an fkk training regimen so you can build up your physique and stamina ahead of time. crossfit and the treadmill at the gym did not prepare me this time.

summary.

i was pleasantly surprised by my visit to bernds. i had read the boards and primed myself to have low expectations. i had thought about different milfs i'd go for in real life or movie stars i wouldn't turn away from my bedroom (would i kick blythe danner out of bed? susan sarandon? helen mirren?) , but was happy to see (and session with) young, hot slim girls that i would think top tier at oase or gt. everyone was friendly and the place was quite comfortable; i had a good time.

the germans have a word, gemütlichkeit, that doesn't really expressly have a counterpart in english, but kind of encompasses hospitality, warmth, welcoming, coziness, etc, but with an almost spiritual sense. that is bernds in a nutshell.

girls i met / did:

* jenny: from greece. 27 years old, petite blonde. nice, smiling, friendly.

angie: zaftig, tats, reminded me of former coworker, the one who was a high-school cheerleader 30 years and 40 pounds ago but still had a bit of that attitude.

magda: short blonde hair, reminded me of charlize theron, facially more attractive than expected, thinner than in pics on website.

erika: from romania, chunkier than in pics on website.

mara: from netherlands. 30 years old but looks younger, farm girl strong, good english. could see her in a 4h competition. or the marines.

* elena: from bulgaria, thin, young, dark hair. very pretty. chinese characters along forearm, tat over left breast.

benita: from italy. light hair, big eyes, multilingual, also friendly and smiling. reminded me of melanie rios.

couple of gilfs / ggilfs? that gave me my entry tour.

LongRange
04-01-14, 13:00
[QUOTE=Wassab; 1544980]If I arrive in Hennef via DB, do I need to pay additional fare to take this bus?

Thanks in advance.

Hi, sorry for late reply, if you have a NRW day ticket (around 28 euros) this will allow you to use the bus as well, but I rail (DB) ticket, its around 2. 50 each (a taxi will be 15-20 EUROS each way) so unless you don't care about money get the bus, they are every hour from 2100 upto midnight, there a two an hour before that, check the times at the bus stop when you get there, hope that helps.

Dreams
04-01-14, 16:04
What a report!

You brilliantly captures the reasons why so many of us are still fans of Bernd's in spite of a so called "weak" line up.

My last visit was a year ago, and most of the girls you described were there, with, of course the exception of the 3 new ones.

The star of the time, another girl who could have been No 1 in any big FKK, was the Rommanian Tina.

AT Bernd's you get a few girls as good looking as those in big FKKs, but with the 50 Euros all included service. That pays for the rather high entry price.

Glad that you enjoyed,

Cheers

Wassab
04-01-14, 18:11
[QUOTE=Wassab; 1544980]If I arrive in Hennef via DB, do I need to pay additional fare to take this bus?

Thanks in advance.

Hi, sorry for late reply, if you have a NRW day ticket (around 28 euros) this will allow you to use the bus as well, but I rail (DB) ticket, its around 2. 50 each (a taxi will be 15-20 EUROS each way) so unless you don't care about money get the bus, they are every hour from 2100 upto midnight, there a two an hour before that, check the times at the bus stop when you get there, hope that helps.Thanks LR.

I will becoming from Fra by train so your follow is very appreciative. In terms of getting the bus ticket, do I purchase it from the driver or is there a kiosk / machine that I can buy the ticket from?

Thanks

Boomer10
04-02-14, 00:13
The star of the time, another girl who could have been No 1 in any big FKK, was the Rommanian Tina.

AT Bernd's you get a few girls as good looking as those in big FKKs, but with the 50 Euros all included service. That pays for the rather high entry price.Dreams,

I was there 4 weeks ago, Tina was present and as lovely as ever.

Boomer

Boomer10
04-02-14, 05:35
Hey Dreams,

"MARA: from Netherlands. 30 years old but looks younger, farm girl strong, good English. Could see her in a 4H competition. Or the Marines."

A pic of Mara from a couple of carnivals ago. I think she looks even better today.

Boomer

LongRange
04-02-14, 19:10
[QUOTE=LongRange; 1549648]Thanks LR.

I will becoming from Fra by train so your follow is very appreciative. In terms of getting the bus ticket, do I purchase it from the driver or is there a kiosk / machine that I can buy the ticket from?

ThanksFrom the driver, but try if possible to have the correct change, and state the destination of Lichtenberg.

And have a great time, hope to be the soon myself if I get a Germany posting for a week or so,

Enjoy!

Wassab
04-03-14, 00:45
[QUOTE=Wassab; 1549745]From the driver, but try if possible to have the correct change, and state the destination of Lichtenberg.

And have a great time, hope to be the soon myself if I get a Germany posting for a week or so,

Enjoy!Thanks, LR. Now I can travel in peace knowing that I can get there by bus. I am heading there next week and it looks like the weather will be very accommodating for my visits. I hope your time to visit Germany will come soon as well.

Cheers

LongRange
04-04-14, 14:55
[QUOTE=LongRange; 1550145]Thanks, LR. Now I can travel in peace knowing that I can get there by bus. I am heading there next week and it looks like the weather will be very accommodating for my visits. I hope your time to visit Germany will come soon as well.

CheersThanks Wassab, just heard, will be there hopefully during the week starting 14th, so hope to get to Bernds sometime that week, and my neother new favorite club, Dolce vita in Dusseldorf, have a great visit.

Wassab
04-04-14, 15:38
[QUOTE=Wassab; 1550224]Thanks Wassab, just heard, will be there hopefully during the week starting 14th, so hope to get to Bernds sometime that week, and my neother new favorite club, Dolce vita in Dusseldorf, have a great visit.I'm booked for 14th, with train ticket on hand, so let's hope we can meet on this date.

Have a safe travel.

W

LongRange
04-07-14, 13:34
Thanks Wassab,

I will hopefully be at Berndts on Tuesday 15th, but things can change, have a good time.

TankTank123
04-08-14, 11:44
Hi Wassab,

I will be there on Thursday 17th. Is Myrmidon going to be with you again?

Last year I asked whether a very attractive thin girl I met but did not succeed in bringing to the room was Magda, and you replied to me with a photo of her with a not very thin frame and a face hidden behind a mask, so I presumed it was someone else that I met. However, a report below mentioned that she is thin, so maybe it is her after all. I hope she and Tina will still be around next week.

Have a good time and hope to meet you there!

Derk
04-09-14, 01:15
Hi Wassab,

I will be there on Thursday 17th. Is Myrmidon going to be with you again?

Last year I asked whether a very attractive thin girl I met but did not succeed in bringing to the room was Magda, and you replied to me with a photo of her with a not very thin frame and a face hidden behind a mask, so I presumed it was someone else that I met. However, a report below mentioned that she is thin, so maybe it is her after all. I hope she and Tina will still be around next week.

Have a good time and hope to meet you there!I can't recall the name right now but the thin girl you're talking about my be a newer Bulgarian girl. If I think if of the name I'll post it. She's suppose to be very good. Magda while attractive in my opinion can be a bit too talkative or chatty, service is hit of miss compared to the other well know greats. Nothing against Magda, pretty, great body and nice set of knockers, I've known her since she was at Traum Paradise in Spich.

Sadly Bernd's lost some of their long time favorites, Babsi and recently Katja. They do their best to find new talent, so its worth a stop to see what shows up for work. There are always the super stars Mara and Anna.

Leoni by the way was last seen at World down by FRA.

LongRange
04-09-14, 16:31
I can't recall the name right now but the thin girl you're talking about my be a newer Bulgarian girl. If I think if of the name I'll post it. She's suppose to be very good. Magda while attractive in my opinion can be a bit.

Too talkative or chatty, service is hit of miss compared to the other well know greats. Nothing against Magda, pretty, great body and nice set of knockers, I've known her since she was at Traum Paradise in Spich.

Sadly Bernd's lost some of their long time favorites, Babsi and recently Katja. They do their best to find new talent, so its worth a stop to see what shows up for work. There are always the super stars Mara and Anna.

Leoni by the way was last seen at World down by FRA.Wow, this is big news, are you saying Katja is no longer at Bernds?

I saw her in Jan, but she was not working, just a visit to the club after a holiday, this may mean I change my club destination?

Gooroox
04-09-14, 18:49
Wow, this is big news, are you saying Katja is no longer at Bernds?

I saw her in Jan, but she was not working, just a visit to the club after a holiday, this may mean I change my club destination?Derk is right I'm afraid, Katja left the club about five months ago. She's now working at the Nylon Café in Köln under the same name.

http://www.nyloncafe.de/nylon-girls-koeln/423.php

LongRange
04-09-14, 21:55
Ok thanks for the info, the Hof will never be the same again!

Wassab
04-15-14, 22:29
Hi Wassab,

I will be there on Thursday 17th. Is Myrmidon going to be with you again?

Last year I asked whether a very attractive thin girl I met but did not succeed in bringing to the room was Magda, and you replied to me with a photo of her with a not very thin frame and a face hidden behind a mask, so I presumed it was someone else that I met. However, a report below mentioned that she is thin, so maybe it is her after all. I hope she and Tina will still be around next week.

Have a good time and hope to meet you there!TT,

I am going solo on this trip but hopefully Myrmidon can join me in the Fall tour. BTW, Thursday will be dead at Bernds as most will be going away / home for Easter, so I was told. You may see some local German gals but the buffet table just got smaller on the date you chosen.

TankTank123
04-16-14, 23:24
Wassab, thanks for the advice. Someone else gave me the same advice and I therefore went to Bernds on Tuesday instead. (I spent yesterday, Wednesday, visiting Samya instead.)

On Tuesday, the number of girls did not seem different from my past visits, so I think the Easter effect has not yet transpired. However, you are right that many would be gone on Thursday. Mara told me that she would be off for a holiday with Magda. Another of my favorites, Anna, also said that she would be off for some time.

I tried out the new thin Bulgarian girl that Derk mentioned. Her name is Elena. Her stunning face and hair, and slim figure with soft breasts of reasonable size despite her small frame reminds me of a shorter version of Penelope Cruz. She tried very hard to find out what I wanted and provided it enthusiastically, probably because she is new to the game and is trying hard to learn. She even thanked me for the session at the end of it! As a result of that small gesture, I could not resist giving her a decent tip.

The other new girl, Maria, looked really GND, and service was standard.

Co Pilot
06-08-14, 23:36
Arrived in Frankfurt Tuesday am for a 2 day expedition to Bernds and Sharks (see Sharks report) So whilst Sharks was like graduating High School and Going to University Bernd's is maybe the other way.

Thanks to Board members found the place easily enough showered and changed and started with a Sauna. Made the mistake of sitting on Erica's towel who was all over me and Erica became my first Bernd's experience right by the bar one minute she is telling me off the second she's gobbling cock like no tomorrow.

There were maybe 7 or 8 ladies and really only 2 or 3 that were "good" whilst the place was fairly quiet was a while before I got sat beside a tall leggy good looking blond (whose name escapes me) on the swing in the garden we chatted for maybe 10 minutes and suddenly it was just us in the garden and she started the most glorious blow job lying across the swing chair needless to say she became conquest numero deux. Really really good BJ and she rode like a trooper.

The options were not great stayed around until maybe 4. 45 and decided to split and keep what energy was left for another day.

Neurosynth
06-09-14, 08:35
So you were there in the afternoon? Things might have improved later on. Was Mara there? She's actually Dutch, bit on the tall side, smaller boobs but youthfully shaped, long straight light brown to dark blond hair, plain but attractive young face. Sort of a farm girl next door look. She's one of my all time favorites. Hope to get there again soon.