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Wizard
05-22-02, 20:38
This is the mother of FKK clubs and was the first its still very popular with the local German community it is relatively expensive and doesn't have the quantity of the bigger clubs and the quality of the girls fluctuates up and down
Address
Schieferhof 28
53773 Hennef/Lichtenberg
Phone: 02248-1529
Open: Mon-Fri 14-23
Homepage: http://www.bernds-sauna-club.de
Entrance: 40Eu
Prices: 80 Eu /Girl
Misc.: Swimming pools, sauna, garden
Directions from Klon take the A3 towards Klon\Bonn airport till junction 32 then take the A560 in the direction of Hennef till the autobahn turns into the B8 carry on down this b road about 5 km till you see a sign post to lichtenberg on your left (its a sharp turn back) go down this road about 3 km you will see a small hotel bar on your right a bit further turn left Schieferhof stir its lays in between some residential homes be careful that you don't block the neighbors parking and access Bernes has its own parking

Wizard
05-22-02, 22:44
I am posting my old review of this famous club .Even though a few years have gone by since this was first posted elsewhere on the web .It still captures the magic of the place and nothing other than the girls have changed .It still makes good reading .

WIZARD'S Visit to BERND's
My visit and only to Bernes Sauna club Hennef Lichtenberg was on a Thursday night


I arrived after 20:00 and was greeted at the door by a tall naked dark skinned pretty 20ís girl who spoke good English told me the rules 70DM entrance 150 DM go to a room with a girl I agreed and told me to undress and shower and then she showed me around the house.

There were about 10-15 girls present (its a bit difficult to judge as some are in rooms and they rotate back and forth) but none of them were real knockout ís I reckon they rated 4 - 8 looks but most were in the lower rating with only a couple of 7-8 but they all seemed friendly and smiled and there was a nice general atmosphere.

The layout of the place has been well documented already but one item that I did not know about was the just behind the main door and between the bar there is a small lobby leading to a open alcove about 2 mtrs square with a big bed taking up all the area fully lighted in other words a public fucking arena there was a long love seat outside in the lobby for the viewers this looked very interesting for me. At the time it was all-vacant.

I first sat myself down in the upstairs lounge and looked around there were about 4 women sitting around one was starting foreplay with a elderly guy she wasn’t very pretty there was a very big girl 30ish with giant drooping boobs not for me another young girl 20ish with heavy features oriental looking also not my type there were another 4 girls in and around the bar one was blond pretty nice tits and a nicely shaven triangle who looked a good bet.

I decided to wait a bit and see before committing myself .So I went downstairs to the bar below and ordered a drink of coke there were 4 guys and 3 girls and a smallish girl dressed in a very short mini skirt and halter top she was the barmaid and was not available for the customers but just to serve the drinks the other girls were all totally naked pretty but plain girl next door type The girl next to me at the bar started a conversation asking were I was from etc she was a short blond girl in her early 20ís from Yugoslavia she was very pleasant and we held a long interesting conversation she seemed to be well educated I could see that she was obviously try and hoping that I would ask her to go with her but still I held off (I had been there over an hour by now ) I was looking for something better .I had a swim in the pool and went into the sauna for 10 minutes and but this time I felt it was about time I made my first move .

The girl I had been talking to had disappeared as did the other 2 this left a very plain skinny blond at the bar so I went upstairs again I could not find the blond who I saw when I came in but in the lobby next to the door there was a knockout tall brunette with short styled haircut beautiful large pointed boobs totally shaven pussy and she was sitting talking to a mid 40 ish guy they didn’t seem to be getting anywhere so I decided to stick around and try and get

Her if she doesn’t get invited for a session with her present partner .I sat next to them on the sofa and was shortly joined by the oriental girl who I seen when I came in (she obviously hadn’t had any success with the customers) she started a conversation with me telling me her name and that she was from Turkey

I replied politely and answered her questions but before I realized what was happening she had grabbed hold of my organ and before I could say Jack Robinson she had it in her mouth and the girl who I had my eye previously on was smiling and urging me on with her looks I new from what I had read that once a blow job is started you are committed and as I was in a very aroused state after an hour in this place with no action I decided what the heck ì let the woman get on with the job I also felt sorry for her and I was hoping that the brunette and her partner might get turned on by us and join in a foursome .

So me and the Turkish girl got down to business on the big bed on the open area she did a good blow job on me I returned the favor and we ended up in the 69 position which led to her mounting me from behind and me on my back enjoying the action also the other couple outside the room had been watching us and were also getting excited and she was playing with his erection They were watching us and we them I by this time made my partner stand up and bend over and I took her from behind with her bent over the bed and on seeing this the other couple copied our moves but from across the way in the lobby what ever we did they did .On her back legs up in the air on the edge of the bed I think we tried every position in the book till we both had the women on all four and I rammed it in and out like a steam engine till I came in a tremendous finish the couple next door seemed to finish at the same time gathering from the grunts and sighs the guy let out .

I was very surprised that this girl had more or less seduced me without my consent as they have strict instructions not to make passes at the men only when a man approaches a woman are they allowed to proceed I definitely didn’t want this girl but I wasn’t going to squeal on her and anyway I got what I came for and I did enjoy holding the competition with the other couple even though I would have preferred to have the brunette instead,

I got up had a shower and went into to pool for a swim and ended up in the sauna once again.

When I got back to the downstairs bar the Yugoslavian girl was back and ask me where I had been I told her that I had just been with a girl upstairs and her interest in me faded we spoke a little bit and then she left me alone at the bar with the bartender.

She didn’t speak any English I was tired after my day’s work and sat sipping my coke she was washing the glasses as it was already late getting near to closing time this must have gone on for about 10 minutes we were all alone downstairs all a sudden to my astonishment the bar lady sits up on the edge of the small horseshoe shaped bar hikes up her short mini skirt spreads her legs wide (she wasn’t wearing any panties) across the bar and begins to masturbate right in front of me I could see that she was already soaking wet between her legs and she was playing with her clitoris in a circular motion with her middle finger I could see that she was enjoying her self in front of me I made a gesture with my tongue that I want to give her an oral work out (something I love and are very good at ) but she didn't show any interest continued to play with herself till she let out a small scream and gasp telling me that she had her orgasm I could clearly see a large amount of slimy fluid running down her legs on to the floor as I was sitting not 2 feet away from her .She got a paper towel wiped herself and without a nod or a word got off the bar and left (I imagine to clean her self off properly in the bathroom ) I to this day am amazed by what I saw and it was all done at the barmaids instigation I was just an innocent bystander She obviously enjoys do this in front of strangers .

Has anyone of you had the same experience, as I don’t think I am alone at watching this performance?

I know it sounds unbelievable but I swear it happened just as I described maybe someone will come forward and backup my story.

By now it was late near midnight and I finished my drink went back to the changing room and dressed and went back to pay my bill 220DM it was funny I went to the upstairs bar to pay but I was called away to the door by the Yugoslavian girl I though maybe to invite me home but no such luck she told me that I am not allowed near the bar in my clothes (only nude) and this was already after closing time when practically everybody had gone home.

It sounds funny but the German’s are sticklers with rules.

MondaysChilde
05-23-02, 22:29
The FKK clubs sound pretty depressing to me. None of the subtlety of the asian scene. Everything hanging out in the open. I'll pass.

Jenbach
06-20-02, 23:43
Wizard:

Thank you for the detailed report on Hennef-Lichtenberg. I have been to the FKK-Club in H-L more than ten times over the last eight years and have not been allowed inside, every single time. I always wondered if it was racial discrimination. At one of these visits, I spoke with a departing customer, who said that they would have let me in if I had come with a "white" customer. Please can you comment on the ethnicity of the customers inside.

There is also a small, intimate brothel, with about two or three bedrooms on a side road, parallel to Am Schieferhof. Quality varies from a 3-6. They used to charge DEM 50, but recently had increased to DEM 75. I do not know the new EUR rates.

Best regards,

ChicagoMan

Gyg66
05-22-04, 15:47
Being there on friday May 14th after reading a lot of favourables reports on german forums.
A little bit deceiving. What is not written on the internet, and I think it must be clearly said, is that this fkk is expecially for:
- German speaking customers only,
- not for customers looking for young girls (below 25 y.o.)
The mother of all clubs? Maybe the grandmother of all clubs!
I´m joking of course.
Or maybe the two times I was there I was only unlucky not to find beautiful girls...
Bye.

Peter
06-16-04, 20:09
went there for the first time today. from the guest side it is like a retirment community or senior citizen's home. i was at least half the age of the next youngest customer, and i was there for 4 hours.

the girls also tend to be on the older and significantly more chubby side than at many other clubs.

they have changed the price structure.

now it is 70€ entrance instead of 40€

but the room has gotten cheaper going from 80€ down to 50€.

they changed the way they do business a little. now the girls keep 100% of the room fee, and the club makes its money through the entrance fee of the men and women.

what is included in a room has not changed. significant couch action including kissing and a long bbbj on the couch before the room is standard, and they don't clock watch. anything under 45 minutes counts as one room.

had a not so great session with a turkish girl named gulsch. we didn't click, and since the only slim girls there were in rooms i thought i would start with a bbbj to cim with this girl, because her face was pretty good. i did not enjoy going down on her, weird aroma. i finished off quickly and wanted to get on to another chick.

there was a dutch girl named mara, who is 21 with short dark hair and a really muscular body. she looks like a speed skater or something like that. she is really tight, and maybe a little muscular, but she still has very natural looking breasts. not really something i normally like, but in this sea of cellulite she stood out as the girl with firm thighs.

nice kissing and bbbj on the couch. we headed for a room, but all were taken, so we kissed a lot, and well in the hall. then she dropped to her knees and gave me good bj in the hall. i pulled her up, kissed some more and went down on her in the hall, to the enjoyment of more than one of the octogenerians wo frequent the club. i got up and we kissed some more (all in all we spent about 10 minutes waiting for a room), she dropped to her knees again and took my dick in her mouth. then the room was available.

i went down on her as i usually do, which she semed to enjoy (can the girls fake those deep body shivers???). then she gave a decent and long bbbj while i was fingering the hell out of her snatch. i thought of cim, but decided i wanted to knead that rock hard ass. bent her over doggy style and rode her home. got a good look at her supremely clean a-hole. after finishing in doggy she arched backwards to give me a couple more kisses. she had a bit of a boyish look, but it was an interesting session.

i was going to go homw, but i saw a girl downstairs that looked to be my type, but i was unsure because of the lack of couchaction on the old hairy guy who went to the room with her before.

her name is vanessa, 21 german from the east living in cologne. long dark hair and really pronounced eyebrows (like mia kirchner or that woman from just shoot me). it was her third day on the job. first day she earned nothing, was just nervous and watched, second day managed to net 200, and seemed on par to beat that today (i was her 3rd). talking to her was nice, interesting enough girls and genuinely fresh to the seen. she seems to come to terms with the job, and seeing as she has already had 2 kids, she has seen the reality of the world and knows what she is getting herself into.

i was her youngest customer by far, she told me, and in this place most 50 year olds could still claim that title. in contrast to the program i had witnessed before she dfk'd very passionately on the sofa, fondled me, but did not bbbj on the couch. i wasn't going to push the issue, and we went to the room. i was still expecting a so-so session.

this girl loved getting eaten out, and i loved eating her out. she came 3 times, and told me it has been over a year since someone has made her come orally. (i practice hard, and earn all the titles i win:))

she returned the favour with a monumental bj. no teeth, nice rhythm, eye contact every now and again, good licking and sucking interspersed. all that was missing was ball licking or phrenulem stroking for it to have been phenomenal.

i asked her if she wanted me to finish in her mouth or with sex and she said;"it is up to you, you are the king!" excellent attitude!

i said, "you are doing so good, lets go for the finish this way."

after about another 5 minutes i figures i wasn't going to finish this way, so i asked her to get a condom (which i had to put on because of her long fingernails), and bend over. she has a world class ass and i liked trying to puch my pelvis through it.

then i flipped her over and pumped her missionary while exchanging deep kisses. after a couple of hard thrusts, when i felt i was almost ready to come i pulled out, yanked the condom off and stuck my dick in her face. she eagerly sucked and sucked, trying to get me to come. i still couldn't. i wanked myself off into her mouth, which she accepted like a top class porn star. i did not see her move to spit it out, but then i went in for a snowball kiss. i figure i took some of it, but she swallowed a good portion. excellent session and excellent value for 50€.

i had two very good sesssions here, but i probably won't be back. i did not like the crowd there, and with the exception of these two girls there was nothing ther under 20 pounds overweight.

peter

Peter
07-06-04, 20:07
Hotel nearby:

Schieferhof
Hotel-Restaurant Reuter
Uckerather Str. 72 Ortsteil Lichtenberg
Tel. 02248/ 912410
Fax 02248/ 912412
Zentrum Hennef: 6 km
Betten: 20 Zimmer: 10 Zimmer teilweise: WC/Du Dusche Fl. k/w. Wasser
E: € 35 D: € 60 Mehrbettzimmer möglich incl. Frühstücksbuffet (empfehlenswert)
TV im Zimmer, Kinderbett auf Wunsch, Garten/ Wiese, Parkplatz für Hausgäste, Kegelbahn. Pauschalangebote Restaurant Di-mittag geschlossen (Gruppen bis 80 Pers.), Biergarten.
500 m zum Club

Stimpson
08-21-04, 16:41
Hi there,

I am an American scientist working in Germany for about three years now. I have been a lurker on this board for quite a while. I thought I would post something now, seeing as how much good information I have gotten from here in the past.

I have visited Bernd's three times now. I had always heard that it was one of the best, if not the best, FKK in Germany, but until recently it was beyond my price range. I have been a regular at Blue Note for almost two years now, and have most often been very happy with the service there. When I heard that the prices had changed at bernd's, and that CIM can be had there from many girls at no extra charge, I decided to check it out, since this makes it about the same price overall as CIM at blue note (which is 2t Euro extra).

My first trip to Bernd's was even better than I had dared hope it would be. I went on a Friday night, and about 7PM. I guess this was the middle of July. There was a wide selection of girls there, with something for everybody. There were several absolutely gorgeous girls there, and all of the girls were completely nude (something that seems to be becoming less and less common at Blue Note). The facilities were nice, although the shower could be better. The food also looked good, but I had already eaten.

I spent an hour or so looking around, and decided to go with a petite Ukrainian girl, named Tanja. The couch action was fabulous, with lots of deep kissing and excellent blowjob technique. She was very affectionate, and there was no hint of being rushed at all. In the room, we did a very nice 69. Her blowjob technique went from excellent to amazing. I had to ask her to ease up a bit, because I was afraid she would make me come too soon. After about 15 or 20 minutes of 69 I asked her if I could cum in her mouth, and she said it was no problem. She then continued blowing me, and didn't stop until I was completely drained. She the cleaned me up, and only then spit it out into a tissue. We then cuddled for a while. All around, this was by far the best experience I had had anywhere, up to that point.

My next choice was a girl whose name I cannot remember. She was medium height, long brown hair, and a great body. Very pretty. Again the couch action was fabulous, although her bj technique was not as good as Tanja's. I asked her if I could also cum in her mouth, but she said it would cost extra. I could also tell by her reaction that she didn't want to, so I didn't bother. In the room, she was very nice. She did some very nice tit-fucking too, which ended with me cumming between her breasts. We then cuddled for a while. By this point it was becoming clear that I had not just been very lucky with Tanja, and that this level of GFE service really was standard here, as I had heard.

My third choice was Svenja. She has a truly amazing ass, and nice breasts. The face is pretty, but not the best. She also has very nice legs, although a bit skinny from the knees down. Again, the service was excellent. Her oral technique was almost as good as Tanja's, and she also seemed perfectly happy to let me cum in her mouth.

For a total of 220 Euro, I could not have been more satisfied. I would never have believed that my nets trip (two weeks later) could be even better, but it was.

It was very warm and sunny the next time I was there (also a Friday evening). They were grilling food outside, which was very nice.

My first session this time was again with Tanja. Again an absolutely amazing experience.

For my second session, I went with Vera, who I had had my eye on the first time I was there. She is a tall blonde, absolutely gorgeous. If not for her rather small breasts, she would be a 9 or maybe even a 10 in my opinion. Again a completely girlfriend experience. Not only did she let me finish in her mouth, but at my request she then showed me the cum in her mouth before she spit it out. More of a pornstar experience than a girlfriend experience.

The entire time I was there, I had my eye on a girl named Mara. Medium height with an amazing body. Very muscular, but also very feminine, with amazing breasts, full lips, and short dark hair. She was constantly busy, and obviously very popular. I finally got her to myself near the end of the evening, and found out why. This girl is amazing. She gave the best blowjob I have ever had, her deep kissing was wonderful, and she was extremely affectionate. Apparently she is Dutch, and she speaks perfect English. She also let me finish in her mouth, and like Tanja, Vera, and Svenja, she knew exactly how to milk me dry (as opposed to simply leaving it in her mouth when you cum).

Mara was by far the best I have ever had, up till then, or since.

My third trip to Bernd's was yesterday, the 20th of August. No grill today, due to rain, but the food was still pretty good.

My first session this time was with a pretty young lady named Vanessa. Very pretty, and I was really turned on by the way she played with the other girls between sessions. Definitely a very hot girl. The couch action was the excellent level of quality I have come to expect there. In the room, she was amazing. She even swallowed at the end, which kind of took me by surprise.

In the mid evening, this absolutely beautiful blonde girl named Bashka did a striptease poll dance in the basement area. Very hot. I wanted to go with her, but never got the chance.

My second session was with Mara again. Absolutely the best, ever.

My third session was with a woman named Andrea. A little bit older than what I usually go for, but still very attractive, with a great body, and amazing breasts. I had hoped to go with either Bashka, or another equally gorgeous brunette named Aileen, but they were both very busy, and I never got the chance. Andrea's service was excellent. Very affectionate, and very skilled. Like just about everyone else I have been with there, she seemed to be perfectly happy to finish me off in her mouth.

Overall, I have to say that Bernd's is simply amazing. I can't wait to go again.

CBGBConnisur
11-23-04, 13:59
The easiest way to get to this club from Bonn via public transportation, is to take the U Bahn 66 to Siegberg, then the S12 to Hennef and then a taxi.

Eeyore
05-13-05, 06:28
Regrettably, Bernd's was closed on a Saturday that I had the time to visit. I was informed that they are closed Sundays as well.

Jenbach
05-14-05, 11:29
Thanks so much for your timely input!

I was just about to leave my hotel in Frankfurt, to drive to Lichtenberg, to try my luck getting in at Bernd's. It is cold and rainy in Frankfurt, so I really do appreciate your information that Bernd's is closed on the weekends.

Cheers!

ChicagoMan

Fly Bob
05-23-05, 21:06
I went to Bernd's today. WOW is the best way to express what I saw. The quality was outstanding with lots of quantity. There were at least 15 very nice women. I arrived at 13:05 and already was the third person to arrive. The house is located on a residential street out in the country. I took the train to Hennef and a taxi from there. The taxi out was 13€ and back was only about 10€.

The entrance price of 70€ is high but the quality is good with plenty of fantastic women. This is a real FKK and everyone is free to wear only a smile. There is not a lot to do between sessions, but that is not a problem with all the eye candy. All in all it was a great day.

Started with Nina. She is from Holland and speaks excellent english. Excellent service. A definate. I would have gone with her again but the choice was too large and she was busy.

Next was Michelle. Wow. She is a bit older but really knows how to please. It was GFE all the way. I was struck with the way she led me to believe that she really enjoyed it. She was really good.

Last was Ariel. She is a stunner. Long, long blond hair and a figure of a goddess. She spoke excellent english and was an excellent provider.

There were plent of girls to go around, even when it got busy late in the afternoon. I was really sorry to have to leave at 18:30 but work calls. This is a definate return. The trip was well worth it. It is not really that hard to get to.

Mahaba
05-30-05, 21:57
I just visited today for the first time and had an overall positive experience.

The establishment is different than Oase or Palace. Its more "cozy". The ladies are all friends with one another, and don't gather into competitive ethnic groups like in the larger clubs.

Entrance was 70-Euros.

Service is 50-Euros, and very good.

Ladies are easy to talk to, but wait for your approach.

Opens at 1300, and closes at 2400.

Food is good.

Free drinks include beer!

Generally a low-key atmosphere with lots of regular customers.

Small free-standing house

About 130 kilometers from Frankfurt, but close to Cologne/Bonn.

Its worth a visit just for comparison.

Have fun!!

Thor93
06-09-05, 04:24
I was there late last year. It was fun finding it on a dark rainy night. Make sure you park in their lot or you will have to go back out and move your car.

Compared to the larger clubs in Germany it is quite a change. Although I speak a bit of German, I did feel a bit like an outsider. Sometimes it is nice to have a few aggressive girls around to stir things up.

I only did one girl that night. I think she was from Hungary, a bit older than my normal taste, but still quite nice. All in all a good time, but I much prefer the bigger clubs like World or Oases. I think it is easier at those clubs for a stranger.

Ortos
06-09-05, 20:42
Thor,

Thanks for these comments. Good insight, interesting perspective on the smaller club vs the big boys in FFM.

Peter
07-20-05, 20:22
I was in this club (Schieferhof) last Friday. They were having a "Beach Party" theme and all the girls were in Bikinis with lais around their neck. They had a barbecue going in the back yard, but still had the excellent buffet set up in the food room.

I went with 3 girls. Started with Svenja (German), who has been there for almost 3 years now. I always thought she was about 28 or so, but she is only 22. She doesn't look that much older, but somehow I always thought she was older. Her service is excellent. Extensive and excellent Deep French Kissing followed by a nice BJ and ball licking on the couch. Then we headed to the room, where it continued. This girl really kisses well. The only complaint I had was that she had just eaten some sort of potato chips, because there was a hint of that on her breath. She audibly and physically enjoyed me going down on her, and reciprocated with an excellent Blowjob. We finished in Doggy. She has a thin upper body, a bit of a wider thin butt, I used to think it was a bit flabby, but when I was lined up behind it doggy, it was quite nice.

Then I went with a Tunisian hotty named Ina. She has exactly the sort of body I like, tight and tone and slim. Nice breasts, good looking face. She kissed well (but not as insanely well as Svenja) and really enjoyed me going down on her. When I started to rim her, she gladly placed her heels behind her ears to give me full access. Her BJ was good, and lining up behind that perfect ass in doggy was amazing.

I had to go, I had to pick my Girlfriend up from the airport, but I still wanted a third girl. I was looking for one who would just give me a world class blowjob, didn't even want sex. I was looking for the turkish girl who welcomed me at the door, but she was not available. I thought of going with one of the other girls I had gone with before, but none had blown me away in their BJ ability. Then I picked a young German /Russian girl named Ines. She was thin, with a bit of a puffed up belly, with her hair pulled back and a piercing in her tongue. she looked like a dirty cute chick. She is new to the club, only been there for 2 weeks, worked a couple of appartments in Cologne for the 2 months before that.

I enjoyed her very nice and smooth pussy with a whisp of blonde hair on it. Then she moved to a mediocre BJ, which was too fast, and at times a little painful. I told her to slow down, which she did, but it wasn't getting that much better. She then asked me whether I wanted "with or without condom".

Given that the BJ was already in progress I was not sure why she was asking the question. I asked for clarification, and she told me she meant for sex. That is true, this girl was offering Bareback sex. I was disgusted. I had heard rumours that it happens at this club, but thought it was folklore. The strange thing was this girl wouldn't do Cum in Mouth - Genius this girl (The CIM is because she also doesn't like it in her private sex life). I couldn't really get into it anymore after that.

This club has had an influx of about 6 new girls in the past two months, and all of them are young and between reasonably and very pretty. But the Everything uncovered makes me a little worried, and I won't be going down as much here anymore. I guess they think all the over 60 customers are relatively safe, but I am half that age.

Novize
07-20-05, 20:47
at Hof was a big issue in the german Roemerforum just two weeks ago.

It seems to be sure that it is available for an uplift.

Whatever you think now, remember that they are doing that with everyone who is willing to pay the extra money.

Not a real safe thing...

Have fun,

but better elsewhere,

Novize

Peter
07-20-05, 22:56
In 7 visits to this club and probably 20 sessions this was the first time that any sort of no condom thing was mentioned. I had heard it from a provider who worked there years ago, but I thought it was urban legend.

When she asked me I started getting worried about having gone down on her. If it really is that prevalent I nmight just completely avoid this club in the future. Shame, there are some nice girls, it just seems too risky, especially given how much I enjoy going down on girls.

Fly Bob
08-09-05, 23:08
Has anyone been here lately? What is the level of talent during the holidays? I was there in May and it was very good. I will be back early September and would like to enjoy another great day.

Bob

Stimpson
08-11-05, 21:12
I was there Friday. I was certainly not disappointed.

Mara was there. She is currently my favorite. Her and a girls named Sandy, who I have not had any experience with, did a session together with some guy right on the couches. At the end, they put their faces together, opened their mouths, stuck out their tongues, and let him shoot all over their faces.

Quite a show.

There were at least five girls there who I know from personal experience are top-notch. Mara, Katja, Tanja, Jesse, and Svenja. I did three sessions, Mara, Katja, and Svenja. All quite excellent, as I have come to expect from them.

Stimpson

Kingwenslas
09-11-05, 15:41
I went to Bernd’s Sauna Club last Wednesday night, arriving around 9.30pm. I thought I would follow Mahaba’s advice and go there just for a comparison, and I was not disappointed.

There are two things to note: Firstly the opening hours are only 1pm to midnight five nights a week, so don’t go there on a weekend (in fact it shuts at 1am on Friday nights). All the girls normally work a 9 hour shift, so if you want to see the most girls plan to be there between 3pm and 10pm.

And secondly, the 50 Euro price for half an hour includes swallowing at no extra charge! Way-heyyyy!

Without wishing to dis Wizard’s directions, this is how I would describe how to get there: Drive south on the A3 from Cologne. Take the A560 autobahn eastwards until it runs into the B8. Go up the B8 about 5km (most of this is uphill). Miss the first right hand signpost saying “Lichtenberg”, and take the second, which is a very sharp right, almost coming back on yourself. Go 1km until you see the Hotel-Restaurant Reuter. Almost immediately turn left into Schieferhof Street. Number 28 is down on the right. Park in number 24.

During my visit I only had time to have sex with two girls. The first one was called Barbara or Babsi for short. She is an attractive blond of 42, but I have been with many girls in their late twenties who have looked older than Babsi! So she is young looking, intelligent and knows what she is doing. She is highly recommended by me, I just don’t know why no one has mentioned her before on this forum, as she has worked there for years (she takes Mondays off).

Bolstered by my positive experience with Babsi, I chose another young looking tall blond. This time it was a 21 year old Latvian called Vicky who said it was her second day there. Just on this evidence alone I should have avoided her, but by 11.20pm everyone was picking their girl for the last shag of the night, so the choice was limited. Sure enough, 2 minutes into our session she told me I had to hurry up! Don’t you just hate that? I damn well made sure that I fucked her hard for 20 minutes and then came in her mouth at the end just to try and educate her in the ways of customer service!

All in all, I recommend to take Mahaba’s advice and go there just for a comparison. Have fun.

Ortos
09-11-05, 21:02
KingW,

Thanks for the report. Nice to have a fresh view and your driving directions seem well written, clear and most useful!

Tell me, can you compare the quality of and the beauty/sexiness level of the girls at Bernd's to what one might find at , say, Oase or Palce or PHG or Goldentime? How would you rate most of the girls at this club on a scale of 1 to 10? I give the average level of girl at the Frankfurt clubs to be an 8. Can you say honestly that the level compares to Frankfurt? I know the 42-year old Babsi must have been good, but that is a far cry from the kind of selection one might find in, say, Palace or Oase or PHG, no?

Kingwenslas
09-11-05, 21:38
Ortos,

Thanks for the question. First of all, let me just say that the only fkk clubs I have been to are World and Oase. I have also been to fkk-Prague, but that place does not deserve to be called an fkk in my opinion, as it is rubbish.

Anyway, to try to answer your question I have only been to Bernd’s once and I only saw half a dozen girls and only had sex with two of them. My feeling is that the girls there are just as good-looking or sexy as in World or Oase, but maybe they are slightly older. Or maybe I am just being influenced by Babsi? Obviously, statistically you are more likely to find a girl who matches your “ideal” criteria in a larger club.

On the question of age, I have always found that “younger” providers are not normally as good as more mature girls. In practice this means I normally avoid girls under the age of 21 or 22 and tend to go for girls over the age of 25. I am 38, by the way. Obviously I break my own rules from time to time. Having sex with Vicky was an example. One reason why I fucked her hard for 20 minutes (it was an ungentlemanly thing to do) was that I knew in advance I was taking a risk and so mentally prepared myself beforehand not to let her spoil the session.

So, to summarise, you give the Frankfurt clubs an 8. Well, I would give the girls in Bernd’s a 7 for looks (as they are a bit older) and a 9 for performance and satisfaction. And all mongerers know what’s more important.

If you were to ask me if I would go back, then the answer would be “not automatically”, the reason being that Oase and World have more to offer as they are larger. On the other hand, being able to finish in a girl’s mouth at no extra charge is quite a unique selling point.

Mahaba
09-15-05, 22:34
I visited today from 1:30 - 3:30 PM, and had a pretty good time. The place had just opened at 1:00 PM and there was already a good sized afternoon crowd.

Here is what I liked about it:

1. Free Beer
2. Free snaks include peanut M&Ms
3. 50 Euros gets you a GFE, DFK, Couch action, BBBJ, CIM, AR, Swallow, Good attitude.

The girls name was "Brandy".

I was told that the majority of the girls are very talented, and good service is the club standard.

The place is much smaller than the "Big" FKK's, and more low-key.

The only downside was the 1.5 hour drive from Frankfurt, and they are closed on weekends. If you live in Cologne then your pretty close.

My personal feeling, after frequenting Oase, Palace, World, Atlantis (sigh), is that "Bernd's" is my new favorite because I like the girls there better.

Regards,

Mahaba

Novize
09-16-05, 07:58
Sure enough, 2 minutes into our session she told me I had to hurry up! Don’t you just hate that? I damn well made sure that I fucked her hard for 20 minutes and then came in her mouth at the end just to try and educate her in the ways of customer service!

Of course her behaviour would have been worth complaining at the reception. Especially at Bernd´s, this would have shown a result very soon.

Behaviour like yours surely won´t "educate" any girl. It´s just unpolite and contemptuous. And, btw, if the girl didn´t agree, it´s liable for prosecution in Germany.

Have fun, but do it the right way,

Novize

Vitoriabitter
09-16-05, 14:58
Well, I would suggest, if a girl offers CIM that is a big concern. As she is completely exposed to all bodily fluid infections and its very easy to transmit infections into one's mouth.

I am quite alarmed at the amount of guys in these forums that openly suggest they give oral sex to pro workers. I'd suggest you might finger bang them with a condom on your finger, have hetro sex protected, but thats as close as you should get to handling their genitals.

Importantly, if u are going down on a girl you are about 10 times more prone to receiving an infection than by having bareback sex. The penis is actually quite resilient whereas the mouth is very open to infection/transmission of bodily fluids.

To receive HIV thru hetro sex with penis/vagina is actually quite hard. Basically, the blood transmission/infection actually has to make its way down the eye of the penis into your system (although NSU, Clymid, Gnor, herpies are all easilly transmitted to the top of the penis - these can all be transmitted if you give oral sex).

However, that is where Anal sex becomes decidedly more risky, as there is a high % of tearing skin tissue on both persons which leads to blood transimission and high risk of infection. Hence when u see a Dr they will ask you many times about have u participated in Anal sex, additionally why there was such an explosion thru the gay community in the 80's.

I studied sports medicine for a while and understand the risks of transmission and have consulted Doctor's about such things when I have had tests.

Basically, it only takes one rotten apple to spoil the whole bunch.

Guys, I'd just suggest to be very wary of girls who CIM or do bareback. But I'd be even more smart and not undertake such risky activities as 69 or giving oral sex to pro workers.

If you think about the multiplier affect, if u have sex with one woman who is a pro worker - she might have sex with 500 guys at least a year...think about how many girls/guys those people have had sex with, then who they have had sex with...etc...it can in all probablility be millions.

In essence, is a couple months/years of infection problems worth 15 mins of fame with a girl u are paying for sex? I consider not. I believe have some great safe fun, act out your fantasies, but be smart not stupid.


I was in this club (Schieferhof) last Friday. They were having a "Beach Party" theme and all the girls were in Bikinis with lais around their neck. They had a barbecue going in the back yard, but still had the excellent buffet set up in the food room.

I went with 3 girls. Started with Svenja (German), who has been there for almost 3 years now. I always thought she was about 28 or so, but she is only 22. She doesn't look that much older, but somehow I always thought she was older. Her service is excellent. Extensive and excellent Deep French Kissing followed by a nice BJ and ball licking on the couch. Then we headed to the room, where it continued. This girl really kisses well. The only complaint I had was that she had just eaten some sort of potato chips, because there was a hint of that on her breath. She audibly and physically enjoyed me going down on her, and reciprocated with an excellent Blowjob. We finished in Doggy. She has a thin upper body, a bit of a wider thin butt, I used to think it was a bit flabby, but when I was lined up behind it doggy, it was quite nice.

Then I went with a Tunisian hotty named Ina. She has exactly the sort of body I like, tight and tone and slim. Nice breasts, good looking face. She kissed well (but not as insanely well as Svenja) and really enjoyed me going down on her. When I started to rim her, she gladly placed her heels behind her ears to give me full access. Her BJ was good, and lining up behind that perfect ass in doggy was amazing.

I had to go, I had to pick my Girlfriend up from the airport, but I still wanted a third girl. I was looking for one who would just give me a world class blowjob, didn't even want sex. I was looking for the turkish girl who welcomed me at the door, but she was not available. I thought of going with one of the other girls I had gone with before, but none had blown me away in their BJ ability. Then I picked a young German /Russian girl named Ines. She was thin, with a bit of a puffed up belly, with her hair pulled back and a piercing in her tongue. she looked like a dirty cute chick. She is new to the club, only been there for 2 weeks, worked a couple of appartments in Cologne for the 2 months before that.

I enjoyed her very nice and smooth pussy with a whisp of blonde hair on it. Then she moved to a mediocre BJ, which was too fast, and at times a little painful. I told her to slow down, which she did, but it wasn't getting that much better. She then asked me whether I wanted "with or without condom".

Given that the BJ was already in progress I was not sure why she was asking the question. I asked for clarification, and she told me she meant for sex. That is true, this girl was offering Bareback sex. I was disgusted. I had heard rumours that it happens at this club, but thought it was folklore. The strange thing was this girl wouldn't do Cum in Mouth - Genius this girl (The CIM is because she also doesn't like it in her private sex life). I couldn't really get into it anymore after that.

This club has had an influx of about 6 new girls in the past two months, and all of them are young and between reasonably and very pretty. But the Everything uncovered makes me a little worried, and I won't be going down as much here anymore. I guess they think all the over 60 customers are relatively safe, but I am half that age.

Peter
09-16-05, 17:45
Kingw,

Not the way to treat a girl. If you had broken it off there and complained at the breast, the girl might have been asked to leave the club. 2 customer complaints about any girls and she is asked to leave and not come back.

also the CIM is not a given for any girl. The rule is that if a girl offers CIM, then it has to be in the price of 50€ for the session, but if she doesn't offer, then that is her prerogative.

Fly Bob
10-03-05, 21:00
Was able to squeeze in a day at Bernd's. What a day. Went with a delightful lady named Babsi. She was fantastic. We talked for some time on a couch. She was not in a rush for the room and we had a really nice talk. I was ready before she said anything. She has lived all over the world and has a very interesting story.

Went later with a young girl from Greece. She was young and inexperienced. My mistake.

This is still one of my favorite places. The cost of one day is high so I like to make it a long day. I have arrived around 1:00 and stay until around 8:00 to maximize the time. Also the train schedule back to Cologne is good to around 11:00 at night.

There is a lot of couch action if you want. I enjoyed a bit and then the break is nice as we head to the room. There is not all that much to do between sessions, but the ambiance is good.

Mahaba
10-30-05, 13:55
Fly Bob,

I have always drove to Bernds from Frankfurt, and the traffic can get bad at times. If I take a train to Cologne, how do I get to Bernds after arriving at the Cologne train station?

Thanks,

Mahaba

Stimpson
10-31-05, 00:25
Fly Bob,

I have always drove to Bernds from Frankfurt, and the traffic can get bad at times. If I take a train to Cologne, how do I get to Bernds after arriving at the Cologne train station?

Thanks,

MahabaFrom Cologne, you can take either the S12, or one of the RE trains to Hennef (Sieg). If you take the RE train, it is direction Giessen.

From there, you can take bus 522 to the Lichtenberg stop, which is about 500m from Bernd's. It is about a block from the hotel Reuter. If you plan on staying the night at the hotel, then this is probably the best bet.

Alternatively, you can take a taxi from Hennef to the club. It is not very far, and shouldn't cost too much. I always took the bus and stayed at the hotel over night, so I am not sure.

Stimpy

Fly Bob
10-31-05, 14:43
Stimpson is correct regarding the trains from Cologne. The trains run about every 10-20 minutes. This is a small station and is the end of the line for some trains. The 522 bus leaves the station at 54 minutes past the hour and looks like it takes about 10 minutes. I have always taken a taxi from in front of the station. It costs around 10-15€ and takes about the same amount of time, no matter how fast they drive.

If the weather is nice next time I may try the bus. Stimpy, what is the cost of the bus?

Bob



From Cologne, you can take either the S12, or one of the RE trains to Hennef (Sieg). If you take the RE train, it is direction Giessen.

From there, you can take bus 522 to the Lichtenberg stop, which is about 500m from Bernd's. It is about a block from the hotel Reuter. If you plan on staying the night at the hotel, then this is probably the best bet.

Alternatively, you can take a taxi from Hennef to the club. It is not very far, and shouldn't cost too much. I always took the bus and stayed at the hotel over night, so I am not sure.

Stimpy

Stimpson
11-01-05, 13:46
If the weather is nice next time I may try the bus. Stimpy, what is the cost of the bus?About 1.40 Euro each way.

By the way, I was there yesterday for the Holloween party. Amazing. It was a bit crowded, but the girls did their best to keep things lively. It was interesting to see them in sexy outfits, rather than completely naked as normal.

Some highlights of the evening:

katja and Aylin did several two on one sessions in the main room downstairs, and put on quite a show.

A Brazilian girls (I think) named Evelyn (I think) did a very nice dance downstairs at the pole.

Later Stella and Sara did another pole dance downstairs.

Toward the end of the evening, Mara (probably my favorite girl there) got her pubic hair shaved. They set up two of the tables, laid her down, and shaved her right there in the main room.

Quite a party. I did sessions with Aylin, Mara, and Melissa. Any one of those sessions would have made it a great day. I am amazed at how they are able to do it. All three were busy almost constantly the entire day, but even after ten hours and god knows how many sessions, they were still great. Either the management at Bernd's has an uncanny talent for finding complete nymphomaniacs, or these girls are world-class actresses with the patients of a saint.

Stimpy

Mahaba
11-02-05, 22:47
Thanks for the train/bus information. I'll be planning a trip in the near future and may take public transport. Bernds is one of those clubs where its hard to identify a favorite, because most of them are excellent. It could only be better if they added viagra to the beer, to reduce the down time between sessions.

Vitoriabitter
11-22-05, 23:18
Hi,

Will be visiting on 3/4 of December...anybody wanna share some christmas cheer?

Spending the weekend in Dusseldorf/Koln.

Send a PM.

Look fwd to hearing from u.

Cheers,

VB

Fly Bob
01-07-06, 03:44
For some reason this place has been silent. Either everyone is too busy recovering or fogetting to tell how things are in Schieferhof. Has anyone been here lately? Who is working this month? This is a great place with some interesting talent. I would like to spend a day here around the end of the month.

Bob

Stano
01-07-06, 20:37
For some reason this place has been silent. Either everyone is too busy recovering or fogetting to tell how things are in Schieferhof. Has anyone been here lately? Who is working this month? This is a great place with some interesting talent. I would like to spend a day here around the end of the month.

BobHello Bob, things are always great in Sicherhof ... you can go without any problem.

Do you know that the managers of Sicherhof are now running another club in Cologne : Sudbad . www.sudbad.de Same great girl sample ! And open during the week end.

Fly Bob
01-14-06, 21:25
Stano, thanks for your comments. Sudbad has an interesting web site and is certainly closer into Koeln.

Are the superstars of Bernds still around, Babsi and Mara? Someone reported that Babsi takes Mondays off, does she work the rest of the week? Anyone seen here there late in the week?

Bob

Stano
01-15-06, 17:42
Are the superstars of Bernds still around, Babsi and Mara? Someone reported that Babsi takes Mondays off, does she work the rest of the week? Anyone seen here there late in the week?

BobHello Bob, as far as I know, Babsi and Mara are still working at Bernd's, but I don't know when they have a day off.

Bernd's is closed during the week-end. So I suppose they are mostly present during the rest of the week.

Val Yodel
01-16-06, 15:12
As I know from my last visit end Dec., Babsi planned to take January off . Mara should be there. I plan to visit the place tomorrow evening, open end. Anybody interested to join - pls. pm.

Val

Fly Bob
01-16-06, 18:34
As I know from my last visit end Dec., Babsi planned to take January off . Mara should be there. I plan to visit the place tomorrow evening, open end. Anybody interested to join - pls. pm.

Val


Val,

Let us know who is there now and how the action is. Don't keep us in the dark. Have loads of fun for the night.

Bob

Val Yodel
01-18-06, 12:15
Snap-shot Jan 17th:

Found the place very quiet this time. Not many girls, action was slow, m/f ratio changing, between 1:1 and 4:1 at times.

Babsi was there, but dressed, visiting only(very attractive btw). She´ll be back on work by end of the month. Mara was there, but left 7pm (it was her birthday). Attendant girls known:

Alija Ina Katja Leila Michelle Mina Nadine Nadja Sera Svenja.

Plus 2 or 3 new / unknown to me.

Must say I´ve had better days there. But things change daily.

Val

Marlow
01-29-06, 23:53
That Sudbad and the Hof are owned by the same crowd has been the case for sometime. What you may be referring to is that the original owner of Sudbad who had sold part of the business to Bernd's has now (I hear) sold the remaining part. Sudbad is one of the oldie clubs in Cologne, one of the original so-called red carpet clubs. It's a haunt of older German businessmen from the south (jovial 'boys' from Bavaria with fat wallets and fat!) who know little of the trend towards places like FKK World. Whether Sudbad has changed enough to compete with the newer clubs catering for a more robust and 'modern' clientele remains to be seen.

Correct me if I am wrong, but Sudbad has a pretty bad reputation among the German forums as old, old, old.

Stano
01-31-06, 21:03
Correct me if I am wrong, but Sudbad has a pretty bad reputation among the German forums as old, old, old.
I think you are wrong. Sudbad is one of my favorite club. And I have already experienced more than 10 FKK's (Oase, World, Palace, Samya, Goldentime, PHG, Bernd's, Yin Yang, Ritz, Villa, Colosseum ...)

Breadman
01-31-06, 22:36
Stano,

I was under the impression Bernds didnt have beer. But on Sudbad's website it looks like they provide beer. Can you tell me if sudbad and bernds provide beer. And is it free or is there an extra charge? What other fkk clubs that you've been to provide free beer?

Peter
01-31-06, 23:51
Marlow,

The place gets as much press or more on german boards in the last 4 months than Bernds. The place has changed their pricing, redone the whole place and is now a major force in cologne. No bad reviews to be read other than an occasional thread claiming that Bare Back sex is available there.

Marlow
02-06-06, 19:04
I am always a little wary of the reports on the German forums, because it is well known that certain senators, gladiators and so on on these webs act as unpaid promo managers for certain establishments. Wary both when they heap lavish praise and pour on the scorn. There is a great deal of kameradschaft behind the scenes, trade offs for giving a good report. I grant Sudbad is getting a better press and if you don't mind appearances then be my guest and go there. If you like a two storey grey building in a builders yard on an industrial estate. As for being top of the heap in Cologne, I don't think that is difficult given what else in the way of Sauna clubs outside of Samya.

Girl-wise it rates better than before, but facility-wise, well you can't turn a sow's ear into a silk purse. Sorry to be so tough but.

Yeah, both Sudbad and Bernd's offer real live alcohol. And yes the one great unspoken fact (Every German forum member knows and will never tell you)about both places is that some girls there do it without a condom for a few dollars more.

They also do anal and sandwich. Just ask for the 'crew girls' at Bernd's they'll know what you mean.

Meindorfer
02-07-06, 07:23
In every club you can find some bareback-girls.

Samya in Cologne for example is a very well known place for sex without condom. There are reports in german forums about 5-6 girls offering it.

Meindorfer
02-07-06, 07:26
Yeah, both Sudbad and Bernd's offer real live alcohol. And yes the one great unspoken fact (Every German forum member knows and will never tell you)about both places is that some girls there do it without a condom for a few dollars more.In every club you will find some bareback-girls.

Samya in Cologne for example is a very well known place for sex without condom.

There are reports in german forums about 5-6 girls offering it.

Meindorfer

Fats
02-08-06, 22:00
And yes the one great unspoken fact (Every German forum member knows and will never tell you)about both places is that some girls there do it without a condom for a few dollars more.


Several years ago at Atlantis, once we were in the room, one of the girls told me her "service menu". She said every half hour was fifty, CIM was an extra 50, anal was an extra 100, and BBFS was an extra 250. I wasn't interested so I don't know if that price was set in stone but I wouldn't call that amount "a few dollars more."

Peter
02-09-06, 02:44
Meindorfer,

You might want to add that Samya is the only club that has asked every girl they have reports of offering BBFS to leave, as opposed to Sudbad and Sheiferhof. I think it is very unfair to paint that club as an AO (Alles Ohne - everything without) club.

Meindorfer
02-09-06, 08:00
You might want to add that Samya is the only club that has asked every girl they have reports of offering BBFS to leave. You do not believe this really?


I think it is very unfair to paint that club as an AO (Alles Ohne - everything without) club.Different users in different forums reports of 'AO' in Samya with different girls. Some names of the girls have been reported too and this girls are still in Samya !

Meindorfer

Fly Bob
02-11-06, 18:53
I had the chance last week to vist both places. It is not fair to compare them. They are serving completely different people.

Sudbad had some nice looking girls and I went with one that was a 10 in looks and a 4 in the room. All the girls wore large sashes and were somewhat bored due to the slow night.

Schieferhof has an energy of its own. I was there from 13:00 to 23:00 and watched as the crowd changed and the girls adapted. Had three great sessions and a fine relaxing day. The girls are slightly older but much more experienced. They enjoy their jobs and are not doing it for a couple of months to earn money to send back to E. Europe.

My preferance is still Schieferhof, too bad the enterance fee is so high.

Bob

Marlow
02-14-06, 14:32
This doing it like they do on the Discovery Channel - ohne gummi - may be the reason why certain clubs get rave reviews. Cannot for the life of me understand why fucking bare arsed and bare cocked is such a big deal with Germans. They take it as a matter of laddish bravery to risk erasing their lives by leaving the rubber in the pack. When the east opened up the second reason why Germans flooded across the border to such grim dives called 'Love Hotel' or whatever - where you never drink alone and don't stay the night - was because Czech/Polish girls did it ohne for 100DM more.

Other than that Samya is good fun.

Polar
02-23-06, 20:02
I plan a trip to Frankfurt next weekend. It seems like I will be able to reach Bernds around 22.00 Friday evening. Unfortunately they seems to close at 01. To those of you who have been there, is it worth the time and money just to try the place during these late hours? Unfortunately they are closed during the weekend, so if I want to test it, this is my only chance.

By the way. I read some german, and I have seen on a german forum that they write about some specialities around the car park. I have not been able to understand however. Anyone who knows if there is something special? If it's ful just outside the building, what to do then?

Thanks.

Peter
02-23-06, 20:58
Polar,

It is probably not worth it to go up all the way from Frankfurt for max. 3 hours of enjoyment. I say this because the chances that you will get lost and not find the club right away are high too. The club is interesting, but not really that much better than the frankfurt area that it is worth investing the extra 90 minutes of driving each way.

Regarding the parking particularities. They have 3 parking lots. One directly in front of the house. there are about 5 spots there, almost always full. Then there is a second parking lot about 3 houses up the hill on the same side of the road as the club. It is marked as being for the club. The third parking lot is at the bottom of the street on the other side of the road, with a horse barn backed up to it. It is important that you park in one of their lots, and they will ask you at the door too if you did. The reason is that some of the neighbors really don't like having a club as a neighbour and have nothing better to do than have your car towed. Trust me, you don't want that, and if you park on the street (and not one fo the 3 lots) chances are good you will get towed.

Polar
02-24-06, 20:08
Thanks for the info Peter.

I guessed that the parking issue was due to the neighbours, but I had not understood the info about the alternatives given. I will keep it for the future.

Sad they are not open during weekends. Maybe I shall try to prolong my stay for an extra day and go there on Monday instead. Is there enough action during daytime, and will I survive with my english (and some poor understanding of german) do you think?

Peter
02-25-06, 00:53
Schieferhof is packed daytime. They aren't really open late, and the girls are all there by noon. Most of the customers seem to either use work as their alibi (I assume they are the boss) or they look old enough to be retired.

That is the type of customer this club, which has been around for about 25 years, attracts.

I think it would be worth it to add a day for this club.

Ortos
02-25-06, 09:31
"Most of the customers seem to either use work as their alibi (I assume they are the boss) or they look old enough to be retired.

That is the type of customer this club, which has been around for about 25 years, attracts."

Peter,

This is very interesting. I've long read descriptions of the club's clientele being mostly (dirty) old men. It never rang home until I read your statement above.

Tell us: If some of us younger guys --I mean 40s-- show up at this club, will we really stick out like a sour thumb? Will we be judged as more desirable by the girls, or perhaps less so, since we are not some of the regular customers here like the older guys...Or maybe we should spray our hair grey????

Stimpson
02-26-06, 13:15
I've been to Schieferhof many times over the past two years, and I'm a fairly young guy (33). I've also seen other (relatively) young guys there (40s), but as Peter said, it is mostly older guys.

I've never seen any indication of the girls preferring the older guys. I've even had a couple of them mention to me that they really don't much care for the really old ones (70+). Of course, I have no idea whether they were just saying this for my benefit or not.

I have noticed that the girls have warmed up to me a bit since I became a fairly regular customer. But that's not to say I got the cold shoulder my first time either. The service there for me has never been anything less than excellent, and the general attitude of the girls to me has always been quite friendly. Nor have I ever felt unwelcome by the other costumers.

Stimpy

Westsider
02-26-06, 14:26
I've been coloring my hair silver now for 10 years, so I don't appear like the 25 yo guy trapped inside my body. Well, that's my story and I'm sticking with it! Actually, this club shows no bias against age, origin or language ( as a non-german speaking visitor from Canada). It does get very busy sometimes, as it is a local favorite of the "mature set" as mentioned. A confirmation of good service. As everywhere, just go with a good attitude, be polite, and leave it in the hands (??) of the professionals.

Breadman
02-26-06, 15:45
Schieferhof is packed daytime. They aren't really open late, and the girls are all there by noon.Peter, I thought the club opened at 1pm? Are you saying the girls arrive early before the opening or that the club opens earlier than the posted opening time?


I had the chance last week to vist both places. It is not fair to compare them. They are serving completely different people.

Sudbad had some nice looking girls and I went with one that was a 10 in looks and a 4 in the room. All the girls wore large sashes and were somewhat bored due to the slow night.

BobFlyBob,

I was curious if sudbad had the same couch action and the free beer that's been reported at Bernds? Also wondering if you took advantage of the free entrance to Sudbad after leaving Bernds? I found the true fkk clubs where the girls had to go nude allowed for better choice selection. ie, they couldnt cover up any flaws, etc. Never heard of sashes being used. How did that effect making choices for you?

Both these clubs are on my list, was wondering how long of a drive it would take to go from Bernds to Sudbad. Also cant find a closing time for Sudbad.

Peter
02-27-06, 00:59
Stimpson,

Did we meet at Bernd's once?

The rest,

I meant 2pm, not noon.

I have seen no age descrimination to younger guys, although I have never seen any real young guys (18-23). I know this age group is often not loved by girls, because they are sport fuckers by and large. Ang girls who get paid to be banged often (there are always excpetions) don't like to get banged REALLY long and hard until they can't walk anymore.

Never heard that you get free entry at one if you went to the other, if that were true, I can actually picture a convoy from one club to the other at about 8pm.

Stano
02-27-06, 22:57
Both these clubs are on my list, was wondering how long of a drive it would take to go from Bernds to Sudbad. Also cant find a closing time for Sudbad.It's about 1/2 hour drive from Bernds to Sudbad.

Sudbad is closing at 3 am on friday and saterday and at 1 am on the other days.

Stano
02-27-06, 23:04
Never heard that you get free entry at one if you went to the other, if that were true, I can actually picture a convoy from one club to the other at about 8pm.Yes, it's true, when you leeve the Bernd's, you can ask for a free entry to Sudbad on the same day.

Stimpson
02-28-06, 11:50
Peter,


Did we meet at Bernd's once?Probably. I've spoken to several people there who said they post here. I'm not so good at remembering names, though. Especially when I am being distracted by beautiful women. I do stand out. I'm about 6ft tall and around 250 lbs (180cm, 112kg), and as has already been mentioned, about a decade younger than the typical "young crowd" at the club.

Stimpy

Fly Bob
03-02-06, 16:40
Breadman,

There seemed to be NO couch action at Sudbad. There were conversations going on but only some flirting. The action seemed to be limited to the rooms and the girls didn't want to do much before the clock started. It may have been the night as it was slow so rooms were always available.

The opening time at Bernds is 13:00. I am not sure if you could get in at noon or not, but when I have arrived at 13:00 there were VERY few other guests there ahead of me. I would not suggest you arrive early unless you want to wait to opening time.

Bernds does seem to get busy late afternoon and early evening. When that happens you have to make an appointment and wait for a bit. Generally not too much of a problem.

Do not worry about the age issue. The girls are all very professional and take excellent care of everyone. If anything they may be a bit forward, which is nice. Sometimes when I have been recharging they have wanted to get something started. This has only been an issue one time with one girl. The overall atmosphere is relaxed and on your terms. Last time I wanted to spend the entire day there so I had to pace myself. If you wanted it would be possible to get three or four pops in a few hours. It is also less clinical than other places since it is in a house. The couch action changes from time to time from upstairs to downstairs.

I believe that it would be difficult not to have a good time at Bernds. It is all in what energy you are willing to put out. The girls may be older but they definately are great in the service department. Have a good time.

Bob



Peter, I thought the club opened at 1pm? Are you saying the girls arrive early before the opening or that the club opens earlier than the posted opening time?

FlyBob,

I was curious if sudbad had the same couch action and the free beer that's been reported at Bernds? Also wondering if you took advantage of the free entrance to Sudbad after leaving Bernds? I found the true fkk clubs where the girls had to go nude allowed for better choice selection. ie, they couldnt cover up any flaws, etc. Never heard of sashes being used. How did that effect making choices for you?

Both these clubs are on my list, was wondering how long of a drive it would take to go from Bernds to Sudbad. Also cant find a closing time for Sudbad.

Mahaba
03-04-06, 00:57
One day last month I visited Sudbad since its owned by the same people as Bernds. In a nutshell, I prefer Bernds.

Sudbad is just OK, while Bernds is much better in terms of attitude, and service.

I can't even remember who I was with at Sudbad, while I remember the Bernds girls very well.

Stano
03-04-06, 23:01
There seemed to be NO couch action at Sudbad.


This is not right : there is also couch action in Sudbad, but not so frequent as in Bernds.

I have been twice in Bernds en 4 or 5 times in Sudbad ... and I prefer Sudbad ! Sudbad is not so crowded and, in my opinion, the girls have more time to spend with you. The facilities are also better and larger in Sudbad with a big whirpool, a little swiming pool, a nice bar, more rooms, more place in the dining room, etc.

Some of the girls in Sudbad are realy toppers such as Michelle, Bella, Ornella, Vicky ...

Fly Bob
03-04-06, 23:34
Stano,

You might be absolutely correct. I have only been there one time and it was a very quiet night. I just was not impressed by any energy the night I was there. Very likely it was the night and not the place. Thanks for your comments.

Bob



This is not right : there is also couch action in Sudbad, but not so frequent as in Bernds.

I have been twice in Bernds en 4 or 5 times in Sudbad ... and I prefer Sudbad ! Sudbad is not so crowded and, in my opinion, the girls have more time to spend with you. The facilities are also better and larger in Sudbad with a big whirpool, a little swiming pool, a nice bar, more rooms, more place in the dining room, etc.

Some of the girls in Sudbad are realy toppers such as Michelle, Bella, Ornella, Vicky ...

Priapo
03-06-06, 02:57
I'm almost a regular at FKK-World, since I've been there 5 times (I wish I could visit more often but it's difficult to find new excuses and time). Last weekend I flew from Rome into Koln/Bonn airport with Germanwings, while I usually land in Frankfurt Hahn by Ryanair.

I spent three days in Germany with a friend and I wanted to check the Koln area. So I read this thread and pointed out three places to visit: Sudbad, Samya and Bernd's.

We left on saturday morning from Pohlheim towards Koln. And our first stop was Sudbad. We arrived at 13:00 and a sign at the entrance said it would open at 17:00. Damn... World opens at 10:00 a.m.!!!

So we headed towards Samya. I visited their website and the place seemed just cool. We got there and the building is really big, seems like the good old Atlantis, but on three or four levels.

We parked our car, rang the bell and a very unpolite lady came to open the door just to say shortly that it was a club and the admission was reserved only to members. That's what my friend understood with his small german vocabulary. Quickly she closed the door and left us outside disappointed (and horny from the view of a couple of stunning beauties in the club). Damn... World accepts anyone at anytime!!!

After a quick glance at each other, we decided to try Bernd's. We headed towards Hennef and we got there approximately at 16:00. The place was closed and it really seems like a small house in the country side. There were also some kids playing across the street. Really not inviting...

We then decided to go back to Sudbab and try it again. After stopping at the hotel, we got there at 19:00. The place, compared to World, is quite small. But that wasn't a big problem since there were just 4 girls and a couple of customers. We then entered the Jacuzzi and then took a nap on the large sofas.

The situation gets "better" at around 21:30/22:00, when more girls arrive. But there's also too many customers. At a certain point there were 15 girls and no less than 30/40 customers. Of course not all of the girls are such beauties and so the good ones where simply assaulted.

The action (meeting and deciding to go to a room) takes all place in the bar area that gets very crowded and also a little bit frustrating. You have to fight over for a girl and you sip a drink shoulder to shoulder with the guy that has fucked her just a few minutes before. I know girls get fucked at World too, duh, but I can meet them alone somewhere in the facilities without having to deal with other guys' winks. I left the place as "innocent" as I entered it.

Maybe those are good resources for regulars or german guys. If you are visiting from abroad like me, to get some easy and nice mongering, just head to the World...

Fly Bob
03-07-06, 16:16
I'm almost a regular at FKK-World, since I've been there 5 times (I wish I could visit more often but it's difficult to find new excuses and time). Last weekend I flew from Rome into Koln/Bonn airport with Germanwings, while I usually land in Frankfurt Hahn by Ryanair.

I spent three days in Germany with a friend and I wanted to check the Koln area. So I read this thread and pointed out three places to visit: Sudbad, Samya and Bernd's.

We left on saturday morning from Pohlheim towards Koln. And our first stop was Sudbad. We arrived at 13:00 and a sign at the entrance said it would open at 17:00. Damn... World opens at 10:00 a.m.!!!

So we headed towards Samya. I visited their website and the place seemed just cool. We got there and the building is really big, seems like the good old Atlantis, but on three or four levels.

We parked our car, rang the bell and a very unpolite lady came to open the door just to say shortly that it was a club and the admission was reserved only to members. That's what my friend understood with his small german vocabulary. Quickly she closed the door and left us outside disappointed (and horny from the view of a couple of stunning beauties in the club). Damn... World accepts anyone at anytime!!!

After a quick glance at each other, we decided to try Bernd's. We headed towards Hennef and we got there approximately at 16:00. The place was closed and it really seems like a small house in the country side. There were also some kids playing across the street. Really not inviting...

We then decided to go back to Sudbab and try it again. After stopping at the hotel, we got there at 19:00. The place, compared to World, is quite small. But that wasn't a big problem since there were just 4 girls and a couple of customers. We then entered the Jacuzzi and then took a nap on the large sofas.

The situation gets "better" at around 21:30/22:00, when more girls arrive. But there's also too many customers. At a certain point there were 15 girls and no less than 30/40 customers. Of course not all of the girls are such beauties and so the good ones where simply assaulted.

The action (meeting and deciding to go to a room) takes all place in the bar area that gets very crowded and also a little bit frustrating. You have to fight over for a girl and you sip a drink shoulder to shoulder with the guy that has fucked her just a few minutes before. I know girls get fucked at World too, duh, but I can meet them alone somewhere in the facilities without having to deal with other guys' winks. I left the place as "innocent" as I entered it.

Maybe those are good resources for regulars or german guys. If you are visiting from abroad like me, to get some easy and nice mongering, just head to the World...


I am surprised that you even went to Schieferhof on a weekend. There are lots of places that broadcast that it is only open from Monday to Friday. You really missed out as it is the "Mother of FKK's" and is unique for sure. They do not seem to ever discriminate or turn people away as there is a real mix of customers there.

I agree with you that Sudbad is probably better for a regular local to go. It was slow the night I was there and it was difficult to connect with a girl.

I am surprised that Samyna turned you away. This is one club that I have never tried. Generally they are more than happy to take your entrance fee.

If you get the chance to return, come back during the week and give Bernds a try. It is different for sure as the girls and clients are older but the service is extraordinary. There is also more couch action than anywhere. The BBBJ is the normal warmup on the couch and this does not count against the time. Time, in fact I have never been rushed there because time was up. You are in the room until both of you are finished. The girls are a mix of young and a bit older. I personally like the older more skilled workers as more patient and pleasurable. There is one girl named Babsi that is fantastic and worth a long trip just to experience. Then there are about 5 others that are also worth a long trip to enjoy. Last time I was there I arrived at opening and stayed about 10 hours and enjoyed the time very much. I have seen others come for one or two hours and leave. In the summer they have a small garden area to relax in but the rest of the year you are mostly confined to two sitting areas and a small sauna.

World is big. There is always something happening and girls walking around. Sometimes it is hard to connect because they are "on the move" and I was in the wrong place to connect. You have to be more agressive at World to get what you want. The talent pool is much larger so there are great providers.

Too bad about your three bad experiences in NWR. There are other FKK's there that are worth a visit like Heavens Gate. Don't give up.

Bob

Kingwenslas
03-07-06, 22:27
I was there between 1 - 4pm and had sex with just two girls as little Kingwenslas had been over-worked in the previous few days. Both sessions were excellent and I counted about 15 girls there and probably the same number of men.

Babsi was in attendance but I didn’t even talk to her as she was too busy. I wish to revise my previous report of her when I said that she looks 28 – I reckon she now looks a bit older, say, mid 30s.

Most of the blokes there were your typical middle-aged, fat, glasses wearing Germans. Interestingly, I did not see a single one of them take off his glasses when he went in the shower. There was one bloke who must have been mid 70s and he enjoyed his couch action just like the rest of us.

Since the club is so small, there’s not much to do except talk to the other guests and I swapped some excellent “war” stories with one of the punters. Interestingly, no one I spoke to had even heard of Fkk World or Oase.

I have forgotten the name of my first, but she was half Angolan, half Czech and was actually only 19. Normally I avoid the youngsters but at the time I didn’t realise how old she was, and she actually bears the distinction of being the first girl I have shagged who is half my age.

As already mentioned, I had been rather active in the previous few days and I must admit that my performance was not half as good as hers. I recommend this girl for you energetic types. She will not disappoint. Having said that, however, she did engineer the situation so that I didn’t come in her mouth, so this counts against her.

After this I went to chat to a regular who gave me the low-down on all the girls present that day, except for the one who he didn’t fancy. Basically he recommended either Brandy or Mara. Brandy had been on my “to do” list from my previous visit. Mara is not as good looking, but I went and chatted with her anyway to see if there would be a spark between us. She is Dutch and so doesn’t have the high cheekbones that you find in lots of EE girls. Also she does not have a suntan. More to the point, there was no spark, so I went and found Brandy.

What followed is probably one of the best experiences of my life. I told her my predicament, namely, that I was totally shagged out and she just took it all in her stride. She gave me the best blowjob I have had in a long, long time. She was chatty, enthusiastic and dirty :) When she swallowed my cum she even complimented me on its taste, asking me what I had been eating. She then playfully starting sucking my toes in “retaliation” for me tickling her earlier on. Then we have a few minutes of intimacy, just lying on the bed and chatting. She told me about her life and also that she was 32. And I had always put her at mid 20s.

My session probably over-ran by 15 or 20 minutes, hard to tell when you are so pre-occupied. I left in a pretty darned good mood. I will definitely be back sometime.

Kingwenslas

Stano
03-08-06, 21:22
I have forgotten the name of my first, but she was half Angolan, half Czech and was actually only 19.

Her name is Agatha ...





Having said that, however, she did engineer the situation so that I didn’t come in her mouth, so this counts against her.


Yes I had the same experience with her !

Polar
04-02-06, 07:39
I had planned for a couple of days in Frankfurt to visit Palace an Oase. Due to certain reasones, I decided on Friday to find my way to Schieferhof. I had a car with GPS, so it should not be that hard. Takes "only" 1,5 hours from Frankfurt when you are lucky with the traffic.

I spent the time between 14 and 21 at the club and I can only say that this is my new favourite. The service level of the girls if almost far beyond what you could expect. And the relaxed atmosphere with a lot of action in the sofas is pretty nice.

The description telling the girls are a bit older compared to Oase and Palace is not really right, I would more say that the spread is higher. From 20 up to 45(?).

You absolutely come better off if you know some german. Mine is not that good, but nevertheless I was treated very well as a newcomer. It was also really noted by everyone that I was new to the place. I got this comment several times from the girls, and it was also obvious that they had discussed me between each other. It was no problem talking to the other visitors and all in all I felt very welcomed.

Unfortunately I was really not in my best shape due to a nasty cold for some time. People smooking in a small room with no air and hight temperature makes life harder. Still, I had two very nice sessions.

The first one was with Katja. This is a really good looking girl. Tall, enhanced breast I guess and with a very nice attitude. She did a very skilfull BBBJ while sitting in the sofa. After a while, she moved around to placed her self on little Polar and started to ride away with her breasts well placed for my mouth. Kind of akward feeling with 8 guys and some girls watching with interest.

After a while I suggested we should go to a room. Her comment was "Why does all men always want to go to a room?". Well, I personally don't bother having sex in front of other people. However, in a room with a large bed it's easier to do it in so many different ways compared to the tight place in the sofa. Well, a very nice session in all ended with a CIM.

The next session was with Brandy. She neglected to speak english with me and said that she had heard I could use german. Well OK, she has to be the one that talks the most. One hour later exhausted is the best word that comes to my mind. There are descriptions below about sessions with Brandy, and I can only say, this is the way it is. She "complained" at the end that I should have put my thumb harder in her ass while I was eating her pussy, and I have to make it up to her the next time. What a girl.

Unfortunately, the Friday evening went very busy, and I was not able to have a session with Mara. Does anyone know if she normally works all weekdays, or does she take one day off?

It has to be a next visit, and it has to be pretty soon. The big clubs in Frankfurt have their benefits and their big number of girls. Bernds has the the full quality in the treatment and it's hard to believe you could have a poor session at this place.

Jerry Koblensen
04-15-06, 09:03
Greetings to all ye who see this.

Went the other day to Bernd’s just to be able to compare it with the clubs in the Frankfurt area. Well worth the visit.

Arrived early afternoon. Heartily welcomed. Initial observations:

- Guy/Girl ratio 2-to-1. Didn’t change in the course of the afternoon. - It may be said that the line-up is not as eye-catching as those in the Frankfurt clubs. - Hey! This place is really small. You are either in the upstairs or downstairs sofa area, both of which are not large. So whatever happens on the couches takes place quite close, if not right next, to you. - Atmosphere is warm, friendly and chatty. Nice camaraderie among the girls. Most of the men appear to be frequent guests (yes, I stood out as the newcomer).

As I was about half-an-hour into the upstairs-downstairs observation session, two girls went down on this guy right next to me. Whoa! to both the sights and sounds. That was some scene you don’t see everyday in Palace or Oase (maybe I missed out, but Bernd’s seems much more "public" than the other two). I later realized that this very appetizing sight was the normal fare here. Indeed, the couch action in Bernd’s is much more "intense" than the other two above-mentioned clubs I’ve been to. Anyway, I decided to wait just a little bit more and then get into the action.

Taking into account the recommendations derived from earlier posters, to whom I am grateful, thankful and indebted, I had my first session with Babsi. Yes, if you are even just a little reluctant to drive, Babsi is the one to guide you to the left lane of the highway. Very relaxed, very sympathetic and easy to talk to, and. Very able! She was kind enough to compliment me on the quantity and taste of my semen.

Then, again to the upstairs-downstairs routine.

After deciding my respite was sufficient, I continued looking around in a more desirous fashion and had my second session with Mara. She was outstanding both on the couch and in the room. She works on her BJ as if she was working on a piece of art. And art it was! Post-session talk was also very nice and friendly.

Finally, quite some time later, I decided to get a little adventurous and look for a session with someone not mentioned in the boards. Ended up with Anna. I haven’t described Babsi and Mara, not to duplicate earlier posts by others (I may just add that Mara has let her pubic hair grow again), but this is what can be said about Anna’s appearance: 5 ft. 7, brunette with blond streaks, green eyes, C-cup breasts, and a somewhat darkish tan for a girl from Poland. Quite good, but not as impressive as Babsi and Mara in terms of action. Little Jerry had already become a little sensitive after the earlier action at this age, and Anna’s BJ made you realize she has teeth. Ummm.

At the end of the day, I had been relieved of 220 Euros (70 for the entrance and 3x50 for the sessions, all ending with CIM). It was certainly worth it, particularly when you consider you would have to pay 150 more for the same treatment in the Frankfurt clubs.

OK, one last comment just to be able to say I also criticized the place: As I was paying to leave, I tried to be nice to the receptionist lady by saying how happy I was etc. But she simply ignored me. Dunno why, particularly after the warm welcome she had given me when I first arrived.

Cheers,

J

Jackyo
04-25-06, 12:15
Someone wrote about Samya:

"We parked our car, rang the bell and a very unpolite lady came to open the door just to say shortly that it was a club and the admission was reserved only to members. That's what my friend understood with his small german vocabulary. Quickly she closed the door and left us outside disappointed (and horny from the view of a couple of stunning beauties in the club). Damn... World accepts anyone at anytime!"

I've heard about this happening at certain RTC (Rote Teppich Clubs or Red Carpet Clubs) in the Ruhr (particularly in Dortmund) but never down south of there.

Saying a club is closed only to member is a code word for saying you aren't the "right" people, whatever their defintion of "right" people might be.. usually it is because you aren't German or don't speak the language.

The only place I've been refused service was Planet Happy Garden.

It could be for various reasons. I speak fluent German but because I don't look German some women think they will have a communication issue with me (they never do, in fact, I am quite talkative in Nahkampf).

The first time I was refused service at PHG it was, I think, because the woman I wanted was waiting for a very specific Stammkunde. When the dude came, off they went to the room and she didn't resurface for hours afterwards.

I haven't been to PHG for a while but there used to be a video game in a corner off the bar and for some strange reason, some of the women can not be distracted from that game to do some work. And to think they would spend all afternoon playing at the thing while there were customers pacing up and down the hallways anxious to do business.

I've heard though (from a woman I met at Cocoon who also worked at PHG) that the Kontaktzimmer situation has been corrected. The old set up was a long narrow bar area with bar stools on one side where the women sat and a bar to the other side also with bar stools. When I say narrow, I mean narrow. Very difficult to manuever in, very crowded, not comfortable like a couch area.

Kingwenslas
04-27-06, 09:06
Hi Stano, Polar and Jerry,

I think Bernds is becoming my new favourite club and I enjoyed reading your reports.

I just wanted to agree with Polar when he said that you will enjoy your visit more if you speak German. Germans in general love to practice their English, but on my two visits to Bernds I have never met an Anglophile and everything has been done in German.

For me, this is an advantage as I like to get some practice in, but if you are considering a visit, then bear this in mind otherwise you might be disappointed.

I am planning my next Bernds visit for Thursday 11 May just in case anyone else would like to meet up. I’ll be travelling by car, coming from the west, in case you would like a lift. Please pm me.

Kingwenslas

Polar
04-27-06, 18:46
I did a quick and impovised visit to Bernds yesterday. This was absolutely the right decision.

I have purchased a small gadget since last time, the Garmin Nüvi 350. This little GPS navigator costs just a few hundred euros, and you bring it with you to any rented car. No hazzle to find the way. Well, of course I played with the navigator during the travel, so for the last part it focused on shortest way and not the fastest. I can tell that it's possible to reach Shieferhof from the back. Really passing cows in the country side. You just drive down and up through a walley on a narrow track and all of a sudden there is the place. I don't think many cars have used this way, but as beeing a tourist it's always fun to try something new.

For some strange reason I could not give the house number 28 to the navigator, it only acceptet 30. Filter against FKKs?

Wednesday was rather slow when it came to male visitors. At least that was what I heard from the girls. I stayed from 2 pm to 9 pm, and all the time the visitors were outnumbered by the girls.
From my point of view, the concept at Bernds more focus on quality than quantity. This said, I have to remark that I have had extremely high quality encounters at both Palace and Oase. I have had a couple of very poor ones there as well, and I believe this might not happen at Bernds. I'm also fond of the lack of hunting women. The visitors have to take the initiative.

I had decided to focus this visit on my so far all time favourite Mara. After searching for her for a while, the small head decided and I jumped directly on Katja. I don't believe you can get disapointed there either. Her CIM finish is very nice.

When we came out from the room I almost run directly into Mara. Shit. This was not the plan. Nothing funny will be even possible for a while. But there is nothing to to. Just let the nature take it's time.

When I left at 9 pm however, I was more than satisfied. Two one hour sessions with Mara (poor girl) will be something to remember until my next visit. For me she is as close to perfect as it can be. Luckily, alltough Bernds is much smaller than the big ones in Frankfurt, i believe that anyone will find his preferences fulfiled among the girls that works at the place. I saw guys waiting long and eagerly for girls I would never even think of coming close to. So, there is something for everyone.

Hope to be back soon. I'm not sure I will make it already for the 11th of May, but if that's the case, I post you a note Kingwenslas.

Fly Bob
04-27-06, 22:33
I did a quick and impovised visit to Bernds yesterday. This was absolutely the right decision.

I have purchased a small gadget since last time, the Garmin Nüvi 350. This little GPS navigator costs just a few hundred euros, and you bring it with you to any rented car. No hazzle to find the way. Well, of course I played with the navigator during the travel, so for the last part it focused on shortest way and not the fastest. I can tell that it's possible to reach Shieferhof from the back. Really passing cows in the country side. You just drive down and up through a walley on a narrow track and all of a sudden there is the place. I don't think many cars have used this way, but as beeing a tourist it's always fun to try something new.

For some strange reason I could not give the house number 28 to the navigator, it only acceptet 30. Filter against FKKs?

Wednesday was rather slow when it came to male visitors. At least that was what I heard from the girls. I stayed from 2 pm to 9 pm, and all the time the visitors were outnumbered by the girls.
From my point of view, the concept at Bernds more focus on quality than quantity. This said, I have to remark that I have had extremely high quality encounters at both Palace and Oase. I have had a couple of very poor ones there as well, and I believe this might not happen at Bernds. I'm also fond of the lack of hunting women. The visitors have to take the initiative.

I had decided to focus this visit on my so far all time favourite Mara. After searching for her for a while, the small head decided and I jumped directly on Katja. I don't believe you can get disapointed there either. Her CIM finish is very nice.

When we came out from the room I almost run directly into Mara. Shit. This was not the plan. Nothing funny will be even possible for a while. But there is nothing to to. Just let the nature take it's time.

When I left at 9 pm however, I was more than satisfied. Two one hour sessions with Mara (poor girl) will be something to remember until my next visit. For me she is as close to perfect as it can be. Luckily, alltough Bernds is much smaller than the big ones in Frankfurt, i believe that anyone will find his preferences fulfiled among the girls that works at the place. I saw guys waiting long and eagerly for girls I would never even think of coming close to. So, there is something for everyone.

Hope to be back soon. I'm not sure I will make it already for the 11th of May, but if that's the case, I post you a note Kingwenslas.


Polar,

Thank you for your good report on a favorite club of mine. I also have enjoyed the skills of Mara. Another of my favorites there is Babsi. There are several other girls there that are exceptional.

I wonder if you could answer a question for me? Can you CIM and then FS in one session for the one session price? It always seems that the girls look at the session as a 30 minute block and don't focus on what happens during that time. In some places if you come that is the end of the session, even if it is in the first five minutes. Bernd's seems to be much more focused on customer satisfaction and not getting too concerned about turning over the rooms as many times as possible.

I just wish that visits here could be more frequent. Great place with great service and a great attitude. German is helpful but not required.

Bob

Jackyo
04-28-06, 07:58
This club isn't for you if you are only looking for visual appeal. Service is their strong point with certain services included which you'd pay extra for at other clubs.

The selection of women is either really, really young (18 or 19) or older and very experienced. I like my service providers not to look like service providers so heavily tatooed or pierced women aren't my thing - this club has quite a number of the heavily tatooed and pierced. All are nude and there is considerable couch action so you can pretty well assess the qualities of the women before you make your choice.

The Kunden tend to be older (60s and up) and tend to be mostly German.

This is a very small club. It used to be even smaller when they had the pool but they filled that up and now have rooms over where it used to be. There is a small outside area but you can't go wandering out there without anything on (the neighbors can see into the back yard) or have sex outside either.

There are two bars: one upstairs and downstairs. Don't expect much from the decor. Its dated but functional. Their porno videos aren't anything to write home about.

They have very good food (provided by the Hotel Reuter which is down the street from it) so even if you don't do anything the entry fee (which is rather steep) is partially justified by the food. Where they serve food used to be a bedroom with an open door and mirror. If you sat on the couch just outside it, you could see into the room and watch the action.

This is a very loose club where lots takes place in public and nobody bats an eyelash. Picture guys standing at the bar drinking while there are squatting women performing BJs on them.

I miss the Sankt Augustine-Meindorf club though. This was a sister club to Bernds but it closed several years ago (supposedly the club was turned into a Kindergarten). Totally different Stimmung, even looser than Bernds, totally different Besatzung who were warm and friendly.

If nothing was going on there they had nothing against you sitting with them and giving them massages. I used to see Vanessa there: blonde, German, small tits, pear shaped. Wonder where she is these days.

There is one woman I remember from there who is now with Bernds: Katja. Russian woman, probably mid-thirties, built the way I like them: full-sized (5'9") and full-figured. Her name still show up in reports.

Then there is the legendary Aylin.

Val Yodel
04-28-06, 10:16
I did a quick and impovised visit to Bernds yesterday. This was absolutely the right decision.Probably we met without knowing each other:)

Was there beween 1:30 and 8pm.

Saw a dutch guy promoting "ijsberenforum" by showing a t-shirt around:))


I can tell that it's possible to reach Shieferhof from the back. Really passing cows in the country side. You just drive down and up through a walley on a narrow track and all of a sudden there is the place. I don't think many cars have used this way.....I can confirm, used the same way, some years ago, same situation, new gps navigator. :)

For the not german speaking visitors I can recommend Babsi, german, natural blonde,40, pretty face, looks younger. Educated lady, excellent english, excellent BJ /CIM.

1. Jenny, short blonde (dyed), greek origin. Very friendly, keen to please, service with no restrictions, moaning loud and shouting encouragement :) Did her an hour, she couldn´t get enough.

2. Babsi, as described above. Know and apreciate her since years, we mainly go to the room for exchanging the latest news and gossip. Beside I enjoyed a very skilled BJ.

3. Celine, early 20s, pretty face, somewhat firm figure, almost no tits. Friendly, nice BJ, good service, nothing to complain, but no spark.


There is one woman I remember from there who is now with Bernds: Katja. Russian woman, probably mid-thirties, built the way I like them: full-sized (5'9") and full-figured. Her name still show up in reports.The mid-thirties she left behind;)

Not my taste, but famous for her service and excellent reviews.


Then there is the legendary Aylin.Sad to say, but since her comeback after one year of absence from the job she is very much changed. Lost the all smiling attitude, still nice, but no more spirit. Works like a robot, no heart with her doing.

Still very pretty, excellent service, but no more legend.

Val

Polar
04-28-06, 17:58
Was there beween 1:30 and 8pm.

Funny. Almost the same period. I arrived around 1:30 as well and left just after 9 pm.



Can you CIM and then FS in one session for the one session price?

I have to admit that I have not tried, but I would be surprised if there was a problem. Or to be honest, I don't believe I would manage that. However the experience from Bernds is that the time counts and there is absolutely no hurry. Why not start with CIM during the foreplay in the sofa, and then move to the room for the rest. This would absolutely be just half an hour, I can't think of anything else.

Fly Bob
04-28-06, 20:12
Funny. Almost the same period. I arrived around 1:30 as well and left just after 9 pm.



I have to admit that I have not tried, but I would be surprised if there was a problem. Or to be honest, I don't believe I would manage that. However the experience from Bernds is that the time counts and there is absolutely no hurry. Why not start with CIM during the foreplay in the sofa, and then move to the room for the rest. This would absolutely be just half an hour, I can't think of anything else.

Polar,

Thanks for your comments. I agree with you on their penchant for good service and not getting caught up in the minor details. I was always concerned about getting too far along on the couch and screwing up a great session.

Bob

Jackyo
04-30-06, 00:03
Sad to say, but since her comeback after one year of absence from the job she is very much changed. Lost the all smiling attitude, still nice, but no more spirit. Works like a robot, no heart with her doing.

Still very pretty, excellent service, but no more legend.

ValOh well.. this sometimes happens.

I remember a really cool tall blonde with a nice figure at Dolce Vita in D'dorf. Nice to look at but she was a little too much into getting the dirty deed done, too mechanical.

A friend who knew her when she was just new in the profession said she was quite something else then.. so people change.

Akibono
04-30-06, 06:59
Oh well.. this sometimes happens.

I remember a really cool tall blonde with a nice figure at Dolce Vita in D'dorf. Nice to look at but she was a little too much into getting the dirty deed done, too mechanical.

A friend who knew her when she was just new in the profession said she was quite something else then.. so people change.


I find that when women first enter the business many hope to make a bit of money and marry the boyfriend of their dreams and live happily ever after. Unfortunately, most of these relationships fail and the money is wasted. Then they feel they must return to their job and earn a living. Thus, the change in attitude. I can understand how the initial attention and money may be attractive to a new girl and how they will be disappointed when they realize that the men are only there for their needs and most really don't care what happens to the girl. It's sad to realize you are being used and discarded. I still remember the ones that were particularly nice, but I suspect I am in the minority.

Whitey2
05-01-06, 03:31
Has anyone stayed at the Hotel Reuter, close to Bernds? They have a website (if in fact I'm looking at the correct website), but the building looks a little small and rustic. Looks like 35 euro single, though. Could put up with a little rustic for that kind of jack. Thinking ahead about my next vacation.

Val Yodel
05-01-06, 08:49
Has anyone stayed at the Hotel Reuter, close to Bernds? They have a website (if in fact I'm looking at the correct website), but the building looks a little small and rustic. Looks like 35 euro single, though. Could put up with a little rustic for that kind of jack. Thinking ahead about my next vacation.To stay at Reuter is very common for Schieferhof-visitors, they are welcome:)

Also Reuter is supplier of the food /buffet at Bernd´s.

It is in 3 minutes walking distance of the club, the rooms are clean, your key is for an extra entrance of the guesthouse, no reception to pass. The breakfast is famous, for 35 Eur you can´t get better value.

Val

Koelnermatze
05-01-06, 09:09
Hi!

I usually stay at Hotel Reuter after having spent a day in the Schieferhof. Of course you cannot expect a 5star HiltonHotel but the rooms are pretty simple and clean. I would not recommend to spend your holidays in that hotel but one night is fine!

The breakfast is prepared by the owner himself and is simply excellent.

Best regards,

Koelnermatze


Has anyone stayed at the Hotel Reuter, close to Bernds? They have a website (if in fact I'm looking at the correct website), but the building looks a little small and rustic. Looks like 35 euro single, though. Could put up with a little rustic for that kind of jack. Thinking ahead about my next vacation.

Jackyo
05-01-06, 10:21
Has anyone stayed at the Hotel Reuter, close to Bernds? They have a website (if in fact I'm looking at the correct website), but the building looks a little small and rustic. Looks like 35 euro single, though. Could put up with a little rustic for that kind of jack. Thinking ahead about my next vacation.This hotel is cool. It is rustic and basic but the owner is the same guy who delivers food to Bernds (which by the way, is very good). I'd park my car here and walk to Bernds and when it closes walk back to the hotel. I'd not stay anywhere else if I were going to Bernds. And the price is right.

Stimpson
05-01-06, 10:33
I have stayed there many times. It is small, but it is clean, quiet, and the breakfast is quite good. It is also located one block from a bus stop which will take you directly to the train station, which saves you even more money compared to taking a cab.

Stimpson

Whitey2
05-01-06, 18:49
Thanks, guys, for all the good info. I'll definitely give it a try next time I'm in Germany. Three minutes' walk to Bernds, 35 euro fare, excellent eats, free parking - what more could you ask?

To add my own info to this subject, the website for Hotel Reuter (I'm pretty sure I have the right one) is below. Pics of the food are on the site - apparently everybody's right about how good it is. Certainly LOOKS good! The reservation option on the webpage doesn't appear to be working, but there's an e-mail option.

http://www.restaurant-reuter.de.vu/

Also, here is a pic of the place (if I can get it to post):

http://web21.maxsyncron.org/restaurant_reuter/63dd08972213dfa6f/d000.html

Fly Bob
05-02-06, 03:34
The reservation option on the webpage doesn't appear to be working, but there's an e-mail option.
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Whitey2,

I stayed here a couple of months ago. Like everyone has said it is small, clean and friendly. I think there was only one other guest the night I was there. Don't arrive too early. I had a hard time finding someone to check in at 12:00. They were exceptionally friendly and the breakfast was excellent.

I made my reservation on the internet. I don't remember how but try sending an email if the reservation link does not work. This link is for some agency that handles the reservations for them. So, just send the email and give that a try.

Bob

Kingwenslas
05-08-06, 09:19
Hi Guys,

With reference to my previous post about my next Bernd’s visit on Thursday 11th May, it looks like it will now be this Wednesday 10th May and I will be coming from the north, if anyone would like a ride in the car. Please PM me.

Kingwenslas

MoneySign
05-10-06, 20:35
I'm a frequent lurker here but a first time poster. I've been going to FKKs few times a year pretty much for the past 6 years.

I've been reading a lot of praising on Bernd. I couldn't resist posting some of my fair and balance view about this club. I just want those newbies to know that if you are looking for model looking faces and playboy body type of women, you would be dissapointed like I did the first time here. In my eyes, most of the girls here are in the 5 - 6 range. Occasionally, you'll see a 7. I've been to this club few times hoping to meet a hot one, but I've never ever seen anyone who is higher than 7. You see. I'm an extremely visual person. A chic rated 5 or 6 can give me the best BJ in the world, but I have a tough time getting hard and enjoying it. It seems like my body is mentally or visually rejecting it or something. On the other hand, if I see a naked 9 or 8, I pretty much immediately get a hard on even before she touches me. This club just doesn't do it for me as much, granted that its service is generally pretty good.



... 50€ at Bernds is for a single session with a girl. This basically entails some couch action and a reasonable time in the room anywhere near 30 minutes (can often be up to about 40-45 minutes). BHasically as long as it takes for you to cum (so if you cum 2 or 3 times and go for 45 minutes expect it to DEFINITELY count as 2 rooms).I'm not sure about the "as long as it takes for you to cum". I visited Bernd last year. I had a session with this girl Nadine who's German about 24 y/o 5'4" dirty blond with tan skin and A/B cup. After spending about 5 minutes with her on the couch, we went into the room. (I always wore a watch and look at it in front of her just so she know I kind of keep track of the time.) About 20 to 25 minutes later, she reminded me that time's almost up. I didn't even cum yet. She explained to me that the 5 minutes couch action would count toward the total 30 minutes. That started kind of turning me off little bit. I then politely and gentlemanly asked if it's ok to finish with CIM. She said no. I smiled and gave her a hug and said "danke". That's pretty much how the session ended without cumming.



If the girl has CIM in her repertoir - that means if she offers it as a service ( but not all girls who work there do) . then it is included in the 50€ room charge. Again, not all women offer CIM, and the session going overtime without strict adherence to the clock are not givens. They belong to the clubs credo of good service..If I were a girl working there, I probably wouldn't allow CIM either. Why bother? What is it in for me? There is no incentive to do CIM, especially to the non-local guys.

Jackyo
05-11-06, 11:30
I've been reading a lot of praising on Bernd. I couldn't resist posting some of my fair and balance view about this club. I just want those newbies to know that if you are looking for model looking faces and playboy body type of women, you would be dissapointed like I did the first time here. In my eyes, most of the girls here are in the 5 - 6 range. Occasionally, you'll see a 7. I've been to this club few times hoping to meet a hot one, but I've never ever seen anyone who is higher than 7. You see. I'm an extremely visual person. A chic rated 5 or 6 can give me the best BJ in the world, but I have a tough time getting hard and enjoying it. It seems like my body is mentally or visually rejecting it or something. On the other hand, if I see a naked 9 or 8, I pretty much immediately get a hard on even before she touches me. This club just doesn't do it for me as much, granted that its service is generally pretty good.


This club's selection is skewed either really young (18 or 19) or older but experienced. In the older and experienced category, some of the women look like hookers, which is a turnoff for me. I'm not into heavy tatoos or piercings (a number of them have them).

What this club has going for it is its "anything goes" athmosphere. And the women aren't clock watchers (typically, anyway).

The typical scene, by the way, is a customer is in his advanced years making out with an 18 or 19 year old on the couch.

The Roemerforum guys keep saying: the better looking women typically do not offer good services because they don't have to try very hard, the lower rated ones have to make up for their looks with better services.

The Germans have an equivalent expression to "all that glistens isn't gold".

So if every now and then you pick a 5 or a 6 in a club who typically is on the sidelines because she can't make the visual cut, she just might surprise you service-wise.

You sometimes would do well to give a dog a bone every now and then.

I had an extremely erotic experience with a redheaded Ruhrpottmaedel on the couch here once. She wasn't a 9 or a 10 but she had a way of using her hands and rubbing herself against me which had me come though we weren't actually having sex (at least there was no penetration). It was like a long extended wet dream. Later, I took her into a room to do the dirty deed but I still remember her simply because I'd never had couch action like that anywhere.

I intend to do a drop by late next week combined with a trip to Sudbad just to see what that club is all about.

Kingwenslas
05-14-06, 22:13
First of all, to Investor and Jackyo, it’s interesting what you are saying. Everyone is different and has different tastes. I am firmly of the view that looks are not important in sexual enjoyment, as long as the girl is attractive enough to make you feel horny in the first place. You only need to have one blowjob from a stunningly attractive girl whose heart is not in it to know what I mean.

I also think your age is important relative to the girl’s. I find now at the age of 39 that I can find women up to the age of 45 sexually attractive, whereas maybe 10 years ago I would not have.

But yes, you are making a valid point just in case people think they will find stunningly attractive young girls at Bernd’s who give the same level of service as the older girls. But there is something about the maturity of the older girls which the youngsters just cannot match.

For the record, I would define a youngster as someone 23 and younger. The girls who give the best service are over 30. Granted, this is obviously a complete generalisation.

Now, on with my report. I was travelling with my friend Noskin. We arrived early and waited in the car until 1pm. In rather a German way, several cars and taxis converged on the property at exactly 1 o’clock and so we made our way in to find things in full swing.

As is normal on a visit to an fkk, we both decided to get laid quickly and ask questions later.

My first was Monica, the 32 year old Hungarian who had been snatched away from me on a previous visit. Had a fantastic time with her. What I liked the most was her blowjob technique. She would scratch my balls and finger my arsehole whilst sucking my cock, or different variations thereof.

The only thing to criticise is that she did not swallow my cum, suggesting instead a condom for blowjob to completion. At the end she triumphally declared that she had “sucked me dry” – a fact I couldn’t argue with.

After a lovely lunch, sunbathe and beer I was back in the game. The girl I chose next was from Kaliningrad, has worked at Bernd’s for 11 years or so and is one of their longest serving girls. She is 37 and has a voluptuous body with a pretty face. I am sure that Investor would argue with my “voluptuous” description and call her plump (no offence, mate). The problem is, I absolutely cannot remember her name. Please, please, can someone reading this put me out of my misery?

By late afternoon the place was quite busy with a 5 minute wait for rooms. This girl’s favourite sex location was the room without a door down in the cellar, such that everyone in the bar could observe. Being British I was reluctant to try it here, but when you have a throbbing hard-on with a willing girl gazing into your eyes it doesn’t take long to concur. Also had a very good session. This girl’s strength was her kissing. Unfortunately she didn’t swallow either, but I was left extremely satisfied.

My third pop was an attractive 25 year old Polish girl called Anna. She said she had been there a month, and would like to stay. It’s a few days now since last Wednesday and I can’t remember the details of what happened. But it must have been good as I had her again for my fourth and final session of the day. She didn’t swallow the first time, but did the second time.

Anyway, in conclusion we both had a perfect day out, with top quality sex at a reasonable price and we will certainly both be going back when time allows. I will try and get Noskin to write his own report. Oh, and I have just realised there is a “Travel Plans and Announcements” section which I should have used on a previous post, so apologies for that.

Kingwenslas

Nick The G
05-15-06, 12:17
The girl I chose next was from Kaliningrad, has worked at Bernd’s for 11 years or so and is one of their longest serving girls. She is 37 and has a voluptuous body with a pretty face.

The problem is, I absolutely cannot remember her name. Please, please, can someone reading this put me out of my misery?You had an encounter with the much praised russian ”queen” Katja!!

Jackyo
05-15-06, 12:24
After a lovely lunch, sunbathe and beer I was back in the game. The girl I chose next was from Kaliningrad, has worked at Bernd’s for 11 years or so and is one of their longest serving girls. She is 37 and has a voluptuous body with a pretty face. I am sure that Investor would argue with my “voluptuous” description and call her plump (no offence, mate). The problem is, I absolutely cannot remember her name. Please, please, can someone reading this put me out of my misery?

Kingwenslas

Could this have been Katja? She's a fixture there. I first met her when the Sankt Augustine-Meindorf club was open. When that closed she moved to Bernds.

She's Russian, tall, with nice curves, wide ass. She's definitely older but has a nice face.. and a great attitude.




You only need to have one blowjob from a stunningly attractive girl whose heart is not in it to know what I mean.



If you pick a girl simply based on the way she looks you can be in for a disappointment.

If you spot a stunningly beautiful girl, my advice is to sit and watch first. If the other customers don't approach her, its because they know something you don't know.

If she does get a customer, make note of the time they go to the room and the time she gets back. There are women who want to turn tricks as quickly as they can and if she is one of them, avoid her like the plague.

There is nothing that is more of a turnoff than having a totally "lustlos" experience.

Its happened enough to me.

You step into the room, she spreads her towel on the bed and then she bundles up her hair with a rubberband. Then she makes you lie down face up and she administer a so-so blowjob. She won't consider any other activity (going down on her, for example, or just intensive kissing). When you are stiff enough, she lies down and you are supposed to get on top. A couple of artificial moans and sighs and you are supposed to come. She won't even consider any other positions, certainly doesn't want to get on top because that means she needs to exert effort. Or if she gets on top she kind of rocks with you inside her, doesn't want to do any real inside-out action. When you finally come, she gets up without saying a word, wraps a towel around her and thats the end of that. She won't give you a second shot even if you've booked her for longer.

What I dislike the most is the "hand-wrapped-around-the-dick" procedure just so the condom doesn't fall off. I understand the concern and I can deal with it but it doesn't contribute to a spontaneous, adventurous athmosphere.

There is no foreplay, sometimes no conversation. You crack a few jokes, make some comments and she doesn't react. There is nothing more unsexy than a dumb woman (or one who can't understand you or who doesn't want to make an effort to understand you). Sex is a form of human interaction and communication is a part of it.

I speak better German than some of the foreign women so sometimes I find myself explaining to them what certain words mean.

Give me someone instead who has a sense of humor, a sense of adventure, is into her work and wants to enjoy it too. If she comes or wants to come, thats a plus. She has to have something to say too.

Since finding someone who is like this is difficult, if I find a girl I like I tend to go back to her during my club visit rather than sample the rest of the selection. Why take that chance the chemistry isn't there?

Clubfreund from the Roemerforum has a test to see if a girl is worth booking for a long time or not. Its called the CF Test after him and its a link on the upper right side of their website.

When they enter the room, he lies face down and waits to see what she does. If she says: "Hey, are you here to sleep?" or "You're lying down the wrong way", she's there to do business and thats it.

If instead, she goes with the flow and she offers a massage or starts caressing or kissing his back, you've found someone who is genuinely service oriented and is worth booking for a longer time.

Wanking
05-15-06, 13:19
The girl I chose next was from Kaliningrad, has worked at Bernd’s for 11 years or so and is one of their longest serving girls.

I wonder how many thousands of cocks she has had in her??

Kingwenslas
05-15-06, 15:13
I hope you are only asking this out of idle, intellectual curiosity :). It was certainly the last thing on my mind at the time. Having said that, it did occur to me that she must be very good and happy at Bernd’s if she’s been there that long.

And Jackyo, now that you mention it, yes, her name is Katja. She’s everything you said (and a little bit more). I feel a lot better now that I have her name again.

Kingwenslas

Jackyo
05-15-06, 17:02
Now let's see:

She's say been active for 18 years (37 less 19). If she works twenty days in a month, has ten customers per day, she has had:

18 years times 12 months/year times 20 days/month times 10 customers/day = 43,200 customers. Bernds is closed on weekends, one musn't forget.

If each time she has a session each customer pumps her 60 strokes per minute for seven minutes, that would amount to 420 strokes per customer or 18,144,000 strokes in total over the past 18 years.

If each customer measured 8", that would be a total of 145,152,000 inches or 12,096,000 feet or 4,032,000 yards.

Is anyone interested in doing a metric conversion?

Henio
05-15-06, 20:31
When they enter the room, he lies face down and waits to see what she does. If she says: "Hey, are you here to sleep?" or "You're lying down the wrong way", she's there to do business and thats it.

If instead, she goes with the flow and she offers a massage or starts caressing or kissing his back, you've found someone who is genuinely service oriented and is worth booking for a longer time.
hehe, this is excatly what I like to do. Sometimes it confuses the hell out of'em. I like to do it with a twist, like "no I don't like massage, I am just not in the mood for sex right now, do you mind singing for me" and then light a cigarette or something stupid just to see how they handle the situation. It can be fun to play these little tricks.

Chivaz

Jackyo
05-15-06, 22:02
I'll mention this here because Sudbad and Bernds are sister clubs.

Sudbad is running a 1/2 reduced entry fee for Roemerforum registered members until the 21st of May.

It does not apply to the entry fee at Bernds.

You need to be a registered Roemerforum member.

You need to post at the "Verabredungseck" before 5:00 o'clock on the day you are going so they know to expect you.

Xavier Yves
05-15-06, 23:57
I'll mention this here because Sudbad and Bernds are sister clubs.

Sudbad is running a 1/2 reduced entry fee for Roemerforum registered members until the 21st of May.

It does not apply to the entry fee at Bernds.

You need to be a registered Roemerforum member.

You need to post at the "Verabredungseck" before 5:00 o'clock on the day you are going so they know to expect you.

that's intresting. How much they reduce to the entrance fees?

Jackyo
05-16-06, 01:01
that's intresting. How much they reduce to the entrance fees?

The entrance fee has been cut in half but as I wrote only until the 21st, only if you are a registered Roemerforum member and only if you register in the "Verabredungseck" that you are coming.

Whitey2
05-16-06, 05:06
Now let's see:

If each customer measured 8", that would be a total of 145,152,000 inches or 12,096,000 feet or 4,032,000 yards.

Is anyone interested in doing a metric conversion?

Zounds! Don't know about metric conversion, but 4,032,000 yard = 2,290 miles! That's one long stretch of pecker. That would also be enough of a pile of accompanying rubbers to make into several sets of Goodyear tires. Of course, we 8"+++ mongers might drive up the mileage considerably :)

Polar
05-17-06, 18:48
Just want to make you all a little envious, and tell that I spent the whole yesterday at Bernds. Arrived just after opening and stayed until 21.30

It was more crowded on a normal Tuesday than I had expected. That was also a comment I got from one of the girls. I thought the germans have vacation in August?

We can all read from the reports that there are different opinions and different flavours of taste. I absolutely don't fancy all the girls that works at Bernds, far from. But what I think I can see is the real focus on making the guests satisfied. I admit that you can find several 9 or 10s in the larger FKKs in Frankfurt, but I still believe that the risk to have a poor session is much much higher in that area as well.

Something that stroke me yesterday was the habit to go to the room with several girls. Two, sometimes three. On one hand this could be something to dream about, but when I think of it, I feel it would be rather confusing. Where should I put my focus? Nevertheless is seems to be popular among the visitiors. Mara told me they had a session the week before with 2 men and 5 women in the room. She had to admit it was slightly complicated to know who did what to whom...

To comment the important side, I had two sessions with Mara that I can live on for a while. Don't have to comment the details, she knows her profession and she is very nice to be with. She suits my personal taste more than well.

This was my third vistit to Bernds, and I feel there is another difference compared to Frankfurt area as well. The girls seems to talk to each other, and also to remember things. In the small talk after the sessions I got the comment "last time you went with Katja". Hey, this was many weeks ago and there have obviously passed quite a few other men since. I have told myself to see the comment as something positiv.

Fly Bob
05-18-06, 07:00
Now let's see:

She's say been active for 18 years (37 less 19). If she works twenty days in a month, has ten customers per day, she has had:

18 years times 12 months/year times 20 days/month times 10 customers/day = 43,200 customers.

Jackyo

There is another way to look at this, at 50€ that amounts to 2.160.000€ She could have retired a long time ago. She must love her job.

I do think that she probably does not average 10 sessions per day so the mileage needs to be adjusted back a little.

Either way, she is a really nice person and a good provider for sure.

Bob

Uggabugga
05-19-06, 20:25
Reminds me of that old joke about the two hookers having a fight about who to have the highest mileage. One suggested that adding all "her" dicks in a row would reach from Wienna to Rome, when the other replied she could gravel the same way with "her" balls :-)

BTW, I admire proffesionalism and skills in every profession and pussy is no exception i.e. I'm on my way........

Marlow
05-23-06, 13:44
Well, just confirms my opinion that Sudbad is beyond saving.They should close the place. Times and fashion have moved on from the red flock wallpaper, red carpet and classic darkwood furniture kind of brothel.

Tony70
05-23-06, 20:16
Marlow,

I have been to PHG, Goldentime, Atlantis when it was open and FKK Freude 39 in Bochum and I have to say that I prefer the red flock wallpaper, the red carpet and the darkwood interior has its charms!

Although PHG and GT have a modern feel, you know the large plasma screens, muted interiors and plush furniture, I am more relaxed in Freude 39. PHG feels like rush hour in the evenings; The large space at Freude's is most welcoming. Also couch action happens and no-bats an eyelid, well except me when I have a good stare! And also comfortable sofas!

If I remember some members have asked for wireless internet in theses clubs. Who wants to work when they can relax an unwind!

I am intending one day to photograph FKK architecture and go around some of the clubs before they open for customers. Anyone on good terms with the owners and can help me out?

I remember my early visits to PHG a few of Winter ago. Early afternoon with my robe sitting in the Nachcafe and watching the snow fall outside and the odd girl or two walk by me and feeling very relaxed, priceless. leave your laptops in the office.

Tony70
05-23-06, 21:03
Yes I can see it now, a coffeetable book titled "FKK Architecture" published by art book publishers Taschen.

The only problem for me would be if the book was published and a a journalist asks me "Have you been to an FKK Club before" Now that would let the cat out of the bag.....

Jackyo
05-24-06, 12:19
i can confirm that the veterans of this club are still there: anja, babsi, katja and aylin.. aylin has a different look and i didn't recognize her at first: she now has jetblack straight hair.. katja is just as i remember her.. both of them are built for comfort and not speed.. neither is particularly aerodynamic.. but this is how women should look.. i say thumbs down on the super thin model types with small asses, bony backs and small tits with small drag coefficients..

highlight of the visit was watching the two of them do this guy on the couch.. first taking turns on blowjobs while he fingered and played with the other one.. then gummi darauf.. and one would pump him.. and then the other.. without changing the condom! (this surprised me).. then an eventual finish which left the guy literally shivering from head to toe (a frisson, if i've ever seen one) as aylin took it in the mouth (and then spit it out into a papertowel).. and then some lying around and cuddling before everyone went off to get cleaned up.

i will doing a more detailed writeup of my trip for the roemerforum but thought i should throw this in for now.

i would guess that katja easily does ten customers a day.. she hung out downstairs and it was very rarely that you would see her just sitting there.. i entertained the thought of doing her and i'd wander down there and not find her because she was in the room.. she still very much keeps up with the youngsters.. this speaks as well for her talents and her reputation.

we (me and the breadman) were there from the time it opened (1 pm) to just about when it closed and though we had originally planned to go to sudbad after to get in two clubs for the day, we decided to stay put instead.

i spoke briefly to mara and can confirm she is really nice. she's dutch by the way (hence the accent) and she's been there for two years. i remember seeing her when she was just new to the club. none of those younger girls who were in her jahrgang (or baujahr or baureihe, if you want to think of them as cars or locomotives) are there any more though.

Peter
05-25-06, 12:10
I say thumbs down on the super thin model types with small asses, bony backs and small tits with small drag coefficients..


I'll gladly take the ones Jackyo doesn't want.

Breadman
05-28-06, 23:42
Bernds is a nice little club, id go there again. I found enough women to keep my attention, like the upstairs/downstairs setup that allows you to get some sunlight in the main room or head downstairs for a more secluded/dark atmosphere. Was not impressed at all with the food. Basic cold cuts, bread, fruit with a small hot plate of potatoes and a meat/mushroom/gravy mix. Had better, had worse...but for 70 euro entrance they should go the extra step and provide better fare.

Girls tend to do the 3 minute public bbbj and then drag you off to the room, you can almost time the public display. I was informed that the girls arent clock watchers and that if the half hour runs over to 45 minutes you'll only get charged the half hour rate. Wrong. Got charge the hour rate for going over, didnt make a scene since I did go over...just be warned that if you do you might get an extra fee tacked on.

Jackyo
05-29-06, 14:51
Was not impressed at all with the food. Basic cold cuts, bread, fruit with a small hot plate of potatoes and a meat/mushroom/gravy mix. Had better, had worse...but for 70 euro entrance they should go the extra step and provide better fare.

It used to be much better with a broader selection of hot food and salads.

The meat dish was replenished periodically but it was basically the same food for the entire period of time we were there.

Marlow
05-29-06, 15:17
To Peter,
I AM taking the ones Jackyo leaves out!!

Jackyo
05-29-06, 15:44
To Peter,
I AM taking the ones Jackyo leaves out!!

Hey Marlow and Peter,

... there is every possible size and shape out there.. plenty for everyone and more than enough to share!

Women are, as always, a Geschmacksache...

Polar
05-31-06, 04:37
It seems like I will visit Bernds on this comming Monday. Does anyone know if there are several girls at Bernds that take Mondays off? I will try to call them and ask, but I´m not sure I will get the true answer.

I hope there is not a holliday in Germany on Monday - Tuesday. I saw in the calendar that there are some special Days, but it can of course be so without beeing a free-from-work day.

Koelnermatze
05-31-06, 06:11
Hi Polar,

I am sorry, but everything (including Bernds) will be closed on next Monday. There is an official bank holiday in Germany!

Best regards,

Matze

Peter
05-31-06, 09:04
polar,

call them. Monday is a holiday and I think they might be closed.

Polar
05-31-06, 20:21
Thanks!

You learn something new every day. Next time I think I can squeeze in a trip is during week 25. No special holliday's during that week I hope?

Catalyst
06-17-06, 17:21
Does anyone know if when you leave Berndt's you can get a free entry coupon for Sudbad in Koln, and vice versa? I think they are under the same management. You used to be able to go to Berndt's and St. Augustine and only pay one entry fee before SA sadly closed years ago.

Jackyo
06-18-06, 11:42
Does anyone know if when you leave Bernd's you can get a free entry coupon for Sudbad in Koeln, and vice versa? I think they are under the same management. You used to be able to go to Bernd's and St. Augustine and only pay one entry fee before SA sadly closed years ago.

.. but a) you will need to tell them you are doing this when you leave Bernds, b) you will need to do at least one session at Sudbad to not be charged the entry fee again.

This was how it worked between Sankt Augustine-Meindorf and Bernds back then too.

Fly Bob
06-22-06, 22:42
I have a trip coming up in a couple of weeks. Wondering if anyone has been here lately? Are there usually a lot of girls on holidays in early July? In the past the ratio changed through the day but was really never bad.

Bob

Catalyst
06-23-06, 02:37
Here is day 2 of a trip I took a few years ago. If you like hearing about the past look for days 1 and 3 on the Babylon and Oase branches.

DAY 2 – Berndt’s and St. Augustine

Well, this is really day 1 of a second trip since there was a long hiatus between this day and the one before, but what the heck. I went to Berndt’s and this time it was open. The selection was not as good as at Babylon, but entry to Berndt’s was also good at St. Augustine, which I had heard good reports about, so that was only half of the selection and I got to try out another new club for free.

Suzy, Germany, 25?, looks 7 attitude 6

The best looking girl in Berndt’s was a German with long stringy dirty blonde Christina Aguilera style hair, only she was taller than CA and wasn’t as thin. She had nice tits and a pretty good figure with just a bit of cellulite and a slightly glazed look that made her look lazy and slutty. When she spoke it was slowly and with a monotone. She acted like she was on drugs, though I didn’t think she was. She didn’t have any tattoos or piercings. Her name was Suzy.

I sat next to her and started a conversation. We started touching each other and then kissing, though there was always a bit of a battle with her holding back a bit and interrupting the kissing and me chasing her. It was annoying, but at the same time it added to her lazy trashy attitude, which I found sexy. She blew me fine but with too much interruption and then suggested we go to a room. I asked if we could just stay there on the sofa and she said sure. She got on top of me, facing me in cowgirl. The room was crowded and there were people sitting right next to us. There was some space where she had been sitting and I after a few minutes I put her down on her back and got on top of her. But the kissing wasn’t great, so I rolled her over and spooned her since I preferred not to have her face right in front of me avoiding me. I finished inside her with both of us facing the whole room full of people. It was different from having sex in the center bed in Babylon where you are in the center of the room and are separated from everyone. We were on the bench seat sofas around the outside of the small room; we were in the audience this time. It seemed more spontaneous and natural.

Annette, German, 24?, looks 6, attitude 10

The pickings were slim after that, but I wanted to do one more girl before heading for St. Augustine, and Annette didn’t look bad. She was small and thin, with a flat chest, freckles, and short wavy blonde hair. Her personality was the exact opposite of Suzy’s. She was bubbly and friendly. After a short conversation we started making out like teenagers. She went down on me and we 69’d on the sofa. Then she put on a condom and got on me cowgirl style. After a few minutes I turned her around for reverse cowgirl. I was tired now since I had just done a session, so it took more work to finish. I tipped her over so the reverse cowgirl became spoon and I gradually rolled on top of her. She twisted her head back so we could kiss. Her head was almost in the lap of a guy who was sitting next to us on the sofa; actually it was bumping against his leg. He didn’t seem to mind. I finally came and we cuddled for a few minutes before I showered up and got my entry coupon for St. Augustine. Berndt’s was definitely a club where anything goes. I was hoping that St. Augustine would be the same.

St. Augustine

My internet directions were good and I found the place without too much trouble. Inside I explored the club. There was a main room with a circular bed in the middle which looked like it could come in useful. Next to it was a large secondary room with a huge blue mattress—much bigger than a king sized bed—and a sofa in front of it. A couple was having sex on the mattress and people were stopping in the room for a few moments at a time to watch. The girl was pretty cute and she was taking good care of the guy, DFKing him and doing lots of different positions.

Yvonne, German, 21?, looks 7, attitude 6

I went back to the main room and found Yvonne. She was the prettiest girl there. She was German, with long straight blonde hair and a face full of freckles. She also had nice firm tits and an athletic body. She wouldn’t do it in the main room, but she agreed to go to the big mattress in the secondary room, which was now free. But the sex was mechanical. She kissed, but only reluctantly. It was fine, but I had no intention of repeating with her.

Sunny, German, 24?, looks 8, attitude 9

Next I found Sunny, who I hadn’t seen earlier. She was also German and had wavy blonde hair. She had a softer, less athletic but still shapely figure. I asked her if she wanted to do it on the bed in the middle of the main room and she acted shocked. She said “What? There?” But then she agreed to do it. And she was great. First, on the sofa around the outside of the room she kissed and blew me like she loved me, and then we moved to the bed. Afterwards she said it was nice, but asked if next time we could do it somewhere more private.

She told me a sad story about one of her regulars. He was married with a kid and didn’t have enough money for food for the kid. That didn’t stop him from being a regular of hers and spending money that the kid needed for food. The wife knew where he was going and what he was doing and that didn’t stop him. Sunny told him that what he was doing was wrong, but that didn’t stop him either.

Rebecca, Ukraine, 22?, looks 9, attitude 10

Then I found Rebecca. Nice girls seemed to be arriving or emerging from the rooms or from somewhere. She was a beautiful Ukrainian girl with a wavy blonde perm and a hot soft slim figure. She was a 9. Her attitude was fantastic. We started kissing in the main room. Then she sat on me and started rubbing her wet pussy along my dick. Sunny hadn’t liked having sex in the main room, so maybe Rebecca would be the same, and I had done it already, so I asked Rebecca if she wanted to go to the big mattress in the secondary room and she said yes. It was a great session, with great kissing and hot sex. I came in her mouth at no extra charge.

I ran into Sunny again and I asked if we could do a session with Rebecca. She said yes. Rebecca was with another guy now, but Sunny said she would be available soon. So I waited. But whenever I looked I didn’t see any signs that Rebecca was going to be done with this guy soon. I went to Sunny and she invited me to sit with her. She got in my lap, naked, kissing me periodically as she talked to her friends. It was great, except that now it would be hard to back out of a session and I was worried that Rebecca wasn’t going to be available at all. After a while she went to talk to Rebecca, came back, and told me that Rebecca was almost ready, so we could get started and Rebecca would join us. I wasn’t sure how to play this. Rebecca had been with this guy in the main room for some 45 minutes now and it didn’t look like they had even sessioned yet. If she took longer than expected was I going to be charged for the extra time with Sunny, or was I going to get extra foreplay for free? And what if she was never ready?

Sunny (again) and
Yvonne (again)

We got started on the big mattress in the open second living room and I had forgotten how nice she was to be with. She was sexy and everything was great, except for the absence of Rebecca. After some extensive foreplay I asked what was going on with Rebecca. Sunny got up to go investigate and came back with the news that I had expected: Rebecca wasn’t going to be available after all. I said that I wanted to do a threeway session and so I wanted to find another girl. Well, the selection was limited at this late point, so against my earlier better judgment I suggested Yvonne and Sunny agreed. Noticing how much friendlier Sunny was after we had done a session together I figured that Yvonne might undergo a similar adjustment. Unfortunately my hopes were not realized. She showed the same limited enthusiasm as before and even put a damper on Sunny's attitude. But at least she kissed both me and Sunny. The girls went down on each other and I got to bang them both. I finished inside Sunny while she kissed Yvonne, though it took some prodding to get Yvonne to keep up the kissing. It was good enough that I managed to get my sixth pop of the day.

Catalyst
06-25-06, 18:24
I went back to PHG. I saw two girls but I can’t remember much about them other than their names, which I remember only because I wrote them down. They were Ana and Viera. Viera was a redhead who wouldn’t kiss.

Oase

Alina, Romania, 22?, looks 9, attitude 4

At Oase, after the drought of the past couple of days, I was eager to have sex in the main room. I asked a couple of girls and one said no and the other said she would only do it for 200 DM. Then I saw Alina. She was Romanian, with long frizzy red hair. She was short and skinny, but had perfect big tits. I asked her if we could have sex in the main room, and she said “of course”. We went to one of the sofas behind the plants which were more secluded and she started blowing me. It was great for a few seconds, exactly what I was looking for, and then she said “of course it’s 100 DM extra to do it here because many people see me.”

I said I wasn’t paying 100 extra. She said well then we have to go to the room. If I had been as experienced as I am now I might have told her to get lost, but I was still a little green in the world of FKKs and I got taken advantage of. Actually, I did consider telling her to get lost, but besides knowing that I would have to get in a huge argument the market conditions were not favorable; there wasn’t anyone else I was interested in. So I agreed to go to the room. Even if it had been good I wouldn’t have enjoyed it because I would have been pissed off at being tricked, but it wasn’t good; it was mechanical. She started out offering me all kinds of extra services like cim without telling me that they would cost extra (I turned them all down) and the session ended when she told me I was taking too long. I didn’t resist because it was lousy anyway. Burned again at Oase.

(Note: recently in another club, a better club, a girl tried to pull the same stunt, telling me after we had started that it was 50 euros extra for sex in public or we had to go to the room. I stood my ground and got sex in public for the normal price. But this girl wasn’t as pushy as Alina.)

Maria, Russia, 24?, looks 8, attitude 9

Next I picked Maria (or her name might have been Tatiana, I wrote it down differently in two different places). She was a Russian girl with a big smile, big soft tits, and neck length slightly wavy blonde hair. She seemed very open minded and we had a nice session out in the garden on the lawn by the whirlpool. The light from the whirlpool in the night made it romantic.

Kim, Bulgaria?, 25?, looks 7, attitude 9

I tried a few more girls to see if any of them would do it in the main room, but I had no luck. All said no or wanted more money. I considered paying the extra, but decided against for financial reasons and also because I didn’t want a girl who considered it something unpleasant that required extra compensation. Finally Kim agreed. She had long frizzy black hair and a nice figure, not overweight, but not firm either. She was very affectionate and it was nice being on top of her with a crowd of people standing next to us having a conversation as if we weren’t there. That satisfied my urge to do it in public so I called it quits and another fine trip came to an end.

Catalyst
06-25-06, 18:24
Berndt’s and St. Augustine, my two favorite clubs, hadn’t been superb on my last visit, and anyway I wanted to sample new clubs, so I put my bags in the car and headed north, having heard good reports about PHG and Wildenrath. But on the way I first passed Babylon and it seemed reasonable to drop in and see what was happening there.

Nina, German?, 24?, looks 8, attitude 8

It was a quiet afternoon. There was one girl who looked interesting. She was Nina. She was tall and stocky, though not overweight, with short wavy blonde hair and big tits. I asked her if she would have sex with me on the bed in the middle of the room and she said no. I said that I wanted to find someone who would do that with me and I would get back to her. But after looking and waiting there wasn’t much else. So I went back to her and asked if we could go in the garden downstairs. She agreed.

It was a nice sunny day outside. There was only a groundskeeper walking around, so it wasn’t exactly sex in public, but being outdoors in the sun was nice. It was good sex with good kissing and if it wasn’t passionate enough to be called GFE that might have had as much to do with me as with her. She let me cum on her tits, which was nice. After that there was no one else I was interested in, so I continued north. It was fun hitting all of these different clubs, though the entrance fees were starting to add up.

PHG

The club is in the middle of nowhere and the directions I had were good, but once I got within a few hundred yards I wasted another 20 or 30 minutes finding it. It was probably the liveliest club I had ever been in. The selection was good and it was fun the way people were up and walking about, talking to each other, like in a real bar. It contrasted to the other clubs were everyone sits silently in a ring around the outside of a room and stares at each other until it is time for someone to pick a girl.

Christina, Romania, 23, looks 8, attitude 6

The first girl I approached was Christina, a nice short thin Romanian girl with short wavy red hair. We went to a room and had a long session with lots of kissing and long DATY because she excited me so much. I thought it had gone really well, but I was irritated when she charged me for an hour. I don’t doubt that it was more than half an hour, but she never said that I was going over or asked if I wanted to spend the extra money, and on top of it even though I know the rules (and some of you will probably jump on me for this), the fact that a lot of it was DATY for her benefit (at least in my mind) made the extra charge seem more unfair. Well, her punishment would be that I wouldn’t go with her again. It’s possible that I wouldn’t have anyway since I usually prefer to see a variety of girls, but in this case I had thought that we had made a nice connection.

Name, German, 23?, looks 9, attitude 8

I wanted to try sex in public, but there was a different atmosphere in this club. I didn’t see any couch action anywhere ever. Doing it in the main bar area might be frowned on if any girl would even agree to it. But it was a warm sunny day, so doing it on the grass by the huts seemed alright. I asked a couple of girls if they would do it with me and they said no. But I tried with a beautiful tall thin German girl with long soft straight blonde hair, and she agreed. She didn’t get into it, though. She asked that we go to a spot around the corner by the huts that was not directly visible from right outside the main building. It was a perfectly nice session with kissing, but not with a lot of passion. A girl came by with a guy and said (in German, but I could tell) “you know, there are huts that are free ...” “Yeah, but he wants to do it here on the grass” “Huh? OK, well, whatever.” I felt more like a raincoater than a porn star. Otherwise it was fine and she was a nice girl. I wish I remembered her name.

Name?, Poland, 23?, looks 10, attitude 10

The next girl I picked was gorgeous! She was from Poland. She had fluffy blonde hair that curved slightly inwards and barely reached her shoulders. Her chest was big and perfect. She had a wonderful well-groomed girl next door look with no tattoos or piercings. She didn’t speak any English and we could barely communicate in German. In the room, however, she was fabulous. She didn’t act like a porn star, she just acted like she loved me, and she did everything just right. It was plain vanilla sex in a private room that would bore me to tears if I saw it in a porno film. No cim even. But it was great. Tragically, I forgot her name as well. After this trip I started writing down the girls’ names so I wouldn’t forget them afterwards.

Wildenrath

Maybe I should have stayed and done the blonde polish girl again, but I figured I could just see her there the next day, and I could have more FKK time if I went to Wildenrath, since it stayed open until 4 or 5 AM. Wildenrath was more like a traditional FKK because most people relaxed on comfortable sofas instead of walking around like at PHG, but it also had a bar area, so the atmosphere was livelier than in Babylon or the other couch potato clubs.

There were two really good looking girls. One of them was Mina, an Iranian girl. She approached me and started talking in German, but I didn’t understand, so she called her friend over and her friend translated. Mina said that she couldn’t have sex with me because it was the wrong time of the month, but she would blow me. I could take her and her friend and Mina would blow me and then I could have sex with her friend. This didn’t make any sense to me. Why would I take a girl who I can’t have sex with? I wondered if I would get something else instead, like lesbian action, but nothing was mentioned, so I said no.

Nadia, Dutch, 24?, looks 9, attitude 8

Nadia was beautiful, with long wavy red hair, a slinky hourglass figure, and a nice full chest. The bar area was crowded, and I hadn’t seen any couch action, so I didn’t ask if we could have sex there, but I asked about doing it in the garden right outside the glass doors. She agreed and we went to a nice patch of grass that was lit by the light coming from inside. The sex was nice and the weather outside was perfect. We ended with a nice cim. I stood up and she was on her knees, so it got all over her mouth and dribbled down her chin and spilled onto her tits. Everything was great until I went to pay. Then she explained to me that I owed her an extra 100 DM; 50 for cim, plus another 50 for coming on her tits. We got into an argument while I got dressed (I hadn’t decided whether to leave or not until she pulled this BS). I paid her for cim but not for cot and left in a bad mood with her telling me that it wasn’t fair and me saying yes it was.

Catalyst
06-25-06, 18:25
Ilona, Poland, 25?, looks 7, attitude 8

The next day I decided to visit Beverly for the first time. But they didn’t open until late, so I started the day with a return to St. Augustine to fill the time and to make sure I got in some action in case Beverly didn’t work out. Ilona was there again, but she was with another guy. Other than her the selection was not good. After wandering around I went into the large open room with the large blue mattress in the middle and there was Ilona getting fucked in public by the guy she had just been talking to. I sat on the sofa and watched them, making eye contact with her for long periods. Soon afterwards I saw that she was free and I asked her if she would go with me in the main room now. She said no. I asked why she would do it with the other guy in public but not with me, and she said she would do it in the same open secondary room with me (as long as I remembered that she didn’t want me to cum in her mouth) because it was less crowded. We got started and the guy I had watched her with noticed that we were there and he came in, sat on the sofa opposite the bed, and watched us just as I had watched them. Unfortunately, I was spent from all the sex so far and didn’t finish, but still it was fun.

Suzy, Germany, 25?, looks 7 attitude 4

There wasn’t much left that I was interested in, so I went back to give Berndt’s another chance. It was a warm sunny afternoon when I arrived and a barbecue was going on in the garden. I saw Suzi, who was the first girl I had ever been with at Berndt’s. I had had an ok time with her. She was not warm and open. But she looked as lazy and slutty as I remembered from before and I liked her that way. She was talking to some other guys and it was hard to get her attention, but eventually I succeeded and got her to come join me on my towel that was laid out on the grass.

We started to kiss and I remembered what I hadn’t liked the first time. She rations out kisses. You get a couple and then she wants to stop. You can start again with her after a short wait and she will give you another ration of a couple more and then stop. So it was a constant struggle to maintain the kissing. The sex was also mechanical. It was fun and whacky for a while doing it right next to everyone enjoying their barbecue, but then when I didn’t finish quickly she got more and more difficult. Kissing ended completely, and she started squeezing her legs together to make it hard to penetrate her. Once it deteriorated to a certain point I called it quits without finishing. I paid up and left for Beverly.

Beverly

Beverly is a blur since the evenings aren’t landmarked by paid sessions. Overall I wasn’t too impressed. The layout was fun, with all of the rooms for sex with varying degrees of voyeurism possible. There were some nice girls who could have worked in an FKK as middle quality acts, but they weren’t having sex anywhere in view and I didn’t see any way I was going to have a chance to have sex with them. Not speaking much German seemed to be a disadvantage since I couldn’t try to strike up a conversation with anyone at the bar, but I’m not sure how easy that would have been even if I had been fluent. There were a couple of girls in the group rooms who were taking on multiple guys, usually f---ing one and sucking another. I took my turn a couple of times, but I don’t think the quality of these girls was high. Thankfully the rooms were dark. I suspect that these girls were paid.

A stranger, Germany, 25?, looks 7, attitude 7

I also had a round with a younger girl who was not bad looking and could have worked in an FKK if she had wanted. I lied down next to her when another guy was on top of her and took his spot as soon as he was done. I had the impression that she was not paid because she was better looking and because she stopped after just a couple of guys, even asking me to stop before I finished when I started taking too long. (Too bad. I wished I had skipped the paid girls earlier.) In spite of not finishing it was the highlight of the visit. It was fun to have nasty gangbang sex in the middle of a group of people with a girl who really wanted it and didn’t expect to get paid for it. I think it is definitely possible to score here, maybe even with a hot girl. If I were living near Germany and could go often I would find it a more attractive option. But since I visit Germany infrequently I prefer the sure bet of FKKs where I don’t risk leaving unsatisfied at the end of one of my nights of Rhineland recreation. Beverly is probably good value for money over time, but you can never be sure that you won’t pay your entry and have to settle for the unattractive paid girls or end up rushing home to get to your porno collection for some relief.

Catalyst
06-25-06, 18:26
Sunny, German, 24?, looks 8, attitude 9

My next visit to a club was many days later. I went back to St. Augustine and arrived in the afternoon. I didn’t see many attractive choices, but there was one pretty blonde girl with a curly perm and a nice figure. She was bouncing around between some other guys for a while, talking to them, and I was worried that it might be hard to get to her. But I eventually got a chance to say hello to her and she stayed with me and chatted. Everything went smoothly until I asked her what her name was and she said, surprised and hurt, “Sunny!” Oops, I had seen her just a few months earlier and we had had a good time together. She didn’t have her perm then, so I had a weak excuse for not recognizing her, but we got down to business pretty quickly after than and I could see that I had partly spoiled the personal attention I had been getting until then. I suggested we go out to the garden and lie down on one of the lounge chairs where we could get started. We stayed there and did everything there on the lounge chair. It was cramped and not the most comfortable surface, but it was fun to try one time.

Michelle, German, 24?, looks 9, attitude 6

I wanted to do a session in the main room but couldn’t find anyone else to do it with. Finally I asked Michelle, a thin and pretty German girl with long blonde hair, and she said ok. We had a nice session in the circular bed in the middle of the main room. When it was over she didn’t get up right away, but stayed and talked with me. My German is not great and I just nodded and agreed with a lot of what she said without understanding everything. It was nice, we kissed a bit and there was some light caressing. It was unusual to stay so long just chatting, but I didn’t think much of it because it was late and I figured she had given up on finding another customer for the night and preferred instead to relax.

When it was over I got dressed and went to pay and was told that I owed for one session with Sunny and two sessions with Michelle. I said that the two sessions with Michelle was a mistake. The manager called Michelle over who said that she had asked me if I wanted to extend for another half hour and I had said yes. I said that I didn’t understand German and had simply said yes to everything she said, and that she ought to have realized this. They told me to pay her something and I looked in my pocket. I had a 50 DM note and I thought that was too much, but the only thing I had that was smaller was a ten or something else that was too small, so I reluctantly gave the 50 and it was accepted.

Catalyst
06-25-06, 18:27
Atlantis

I was reluctant to spend any of my precious time in Germany away from my favorite clubs, but I had read so much about Atlantis that I was willing to risk a few hours in the afternoon to investigate it before deciding whether to spend precious evening hours there. I flew into Frankfurt, but I had a hotel reserved farther north near St. Augustine, so I went to Atlantis straight from the airport with all of my baggage hidden in the trunk of my car. When I arrived I was put off by the ghetto-style security cage outside and I wondered if all my possessions were going to be stolen out of my car. Inside, however, I was pleased by the layout, particularly the luxurious bed in the main room. I now realize that by arriving in Atlantis for the first time early in the afternoon I missed out on one of life’s great moments, the dazzle of walking into the main room at Atlantis for the first time when it is in full swing in the evening and filled with beautiful women.

Name?, Poland, 21?, looks 10, attitude 6

The selection seemed alright, though as I later learned, it was far below average compared to the evening. After checking out the facilities and shopping I saw a beautiful young girl, slim and healthy looking, short, with perfect tits and neck length straight red hair. I asked her if she would do it on the public bed, but she said no. She was pretty enough that this was not a deal breaker, so we went off to a room. Once there, however, I was disappointed. She kissed reluctantly and the sex was mechanical. It wasn’t awful, and she was pretty, but it was impersonal enough that later if we passed each other in the main area we didn’t say hello to one another or even smile. I quickly forgot her name.

Vicky, Germany, 27?, looks 7, attitude 3

I approached several girls to see if they would do it on the public bed and they all said no. I began wondering what it was there for. I was disappointed by all the refusals, but in addition I was unhappy at the businesslike and standoffish attitude of a few of the girls. Some asked how much extra I would give and others had a f--- you are you crazy attitude. When all of the really hot girls I asked had said no so I started asking the second tier ones. Finally Vicky, a German girl with sandy blonde hair and on the tall side, said yes.

Normally when girls agree to do it in full view of everyone they treat you well. The ones who don’t treat you well won’t do it in public because they don’t want to have everyone see that they provide lousy service. But there are exceptions to any rule and Vicky was a big one. She wouldn’t kiss and she made it clear that she couldn’t wait to get rid of this idiot. She turned her head away from me and clamped her legs together to limit my penetration during sex. Having a hot session in front of others is a big turn on, but struggling with a girl who is treating you like crap in front of everyone is just embarrassing. Afterwards I asked Vicky her name and she told me. I wonder if she was clueless enough to think that I liked her or whether she suspected the truth, that I just wanted to be able to warn others about her (which I did on another board when I got home).

I had finally tried the famous Club Atlantis and found that the hype was completely unmerited. I was glad that I hadn’t wasted prime hours in the evening. I still had time to get to one of the good clubs and save the day.

St. Aug.

Rebecca, Ukraine, 23?, looks 9, attitude 11

I had come close to doing a three-way session with the famous Rebecca on my previous visit here and had since read some of the glowing reports about her. I was confused when I first saw her because her hair color had changed from blonde to black. I found her in the main room and we got started there, first with a blow job, then with her sitting on my lap and rubbing her pussy across my dick, a script that I recognized from my previous visit. We moved to the open room near the whirlpool and had a great time which ended in her mouth. It was long and wonderful, and was well appreciated after my lukewarm visit to Atlantis. The unrestricted kissing was particularly a relief. I gave her a 100 DM tip for the cim, which was more than the usual surcharge of either 50 DM or zero (depending on the girl’s mood). She told me it wasn’t necessary, that she liked it when I came in her mouth, but I insisted and she said in broken English “thank you very very thank you.”

Celine, Italy, 23?, looks 9, attitude 10

After a short rest I talked with a nice polish girl with shoulder length black hair named Ilona. I asked her if she would do it in the main room with me, but she said no. Then I saw Celine, a gorgeous slim young girl with shoulder length black hair. She was Italian. We talked on the couch in the main room and I asked her if she would do it with me on the circular bed in the center of the room. She acted shocked at first, but then said it was ok. We did a couple of different positions, and when I spooned her I saw Ilona staring at us. I wondered if she was disapproving, but it seemed more like she was turned on by it. There was a long stretch during which Ilona and I maintained unbroken eye contact. After a few minutes Celine and I were doing cowgirl with both of us sitting up kissing and I was about to finish, but I slowed down and held back to make it last. We did a couple more positions and I started to regret not finishing earlier since I was starting to lose sensation while also wondering if I had taken more time than I should. (At the time I had never been charged for extra time by a girl in an FKK and it never occurred to me that this could happen. I just worried that I might be asked to stop.) I asked her to blow me and even though she had said earlier that she didn’t want me to finish in her mouth in the end it was ok.

Afterwards I asked Ilona if she liked watching us and she said yes. I asked if she would do it with me in the main room now and she said no. I asked her if she would do a session in the room with me later, and she said yes, but that she didn’t do cim. I wandered around the club and had a few snacks. Shortly afterwards I saw Ilona in the hot tub with another guy. I waved to her and held up three fingers to ask if she wanted to do an MMF threeway. She shook her head.

Sammy, Germany, 26?, looks 5, attitude 9

Sammy wasn’t the best looking girl in the place, but she wasn’t awful, and she agreed to do it on the bed in the center of the main room. She was short and bony with a flat chest. We got started on the sofa with a blow job and then her sitting on me for cowgirl. After a few minutes I picked her up and put her on the bed, but when we jumped onto the bed together and I dropped down on top of her I still had my wrist under her and sprained it. It didn’t hurt or interfere with the session, but it was sore for a few days afterwards. I finished in her mouth too and it was pleasant. Too bad for Ilona, though. I would have to get to her next time.

Berndt’s

Gina, Thailand, 20?, looks 6, attitude 10

I could have hung around and gone to a room with Ilona, but after her there wasn’t much left that I was interested in that I hadn’t already done. Meanwhile, my entry to St. Augustine was also good for entry to Berndt’s a short distance away, so I decided to try my luck there before it got too late. On my other visit the selection had been less good than at St. Augustine, but there had been a couple of good girls. When I arrived, however, I saw that the possibilities were very limited. Furthermore it was crowded, and not with younger better looking guys. No, these were the famous fireplugs; fat fiftyish men who knew their beer. I quickly met Gina from Thailand, a small skinny girl with a nice face, on the sofa in the main room. She was really friendly and fun to talk to. We began kissing, then a blow job, and then sex. It felt comfortable and natural doing it with her there. We never discussed whether or not to go to a room. I was tired from my other five sessions that day, so I took a while to finish and she suggested cim, which was at no extra cost.

Name?, German, 25?, looks 8, attitude 7

I decided to try for one more shot after that. I picked a German girl with long dark brown hair and a good figure. She wasn’t super friendly, but she was pleasant to talk to and we started kissing and then she blew me. She asked if I wanted to go to a room now and I suggested we just stay where we were. But she said she didn’t want to do that. I made a long face and tried to get her to change her mind, but she insisted. I should have asked first, so it was my fault. We went the room right off of the main room by the entrance and it was fine. After that there was no one left that I wanted to do and she was my sixth pop of the day anyway.

Catalyst
06-25-06, 18:29
Here is a years old report of a seminal trip during which I returned to St. Augustine, Berndt’s, Babylon, and Oase, and made my first ever visits to Atlantis, Beverly, PHG, and Wildenrath. I am posting it all here because I think it reads better if it is not split up and because this branch is quiet, so I won’t be distracting mongers who are looking for the latest info on Oase or Dorsten.

Jackyo
06-25-06, 19:09
I know I have my reports from the good old days somewhere. Trying to find them.

Marlow
06-27-06, 09:46
Some names there bring back good memories. It was a real shame that Bernd's closed St. Augustine, it had its own charm, particularly that circular bed in the middle of the contact room. You mention an Italian girl Celine at Atlantis. This could be the Celine who went on to great things working on her own. She is a member of the the German Freiclub's Hall of Fame, gets rave reviews consistently and a queue of men visiting her private quarters in Königswinter. Have a look at sexrelax.de - she is now blonde - same girl? If it is, to be so good for so long is an achievement in this business.

Jackyo
06-27-06, 11:38
Last I was at Bernds I spoke to one of the Thekenfrau who I recognized to have been a Thekenfrau at Sankt Augustine.

She had to agree: the Stimmung at Sankt Agustine was quite something else and even if the the two clubs belonged to the same people, they were very different in character. Even the women who would alternate between clubs would change in character depending on where they were.

Katja is probably the only one from the Besatzung who is still left. There was also a Turkish woman with large tits there and a Polish woman, Ella, who I did in the backroom with the large circular mattress in full view (this could be the very first time I ever had sex in public). I do remember Celine from back then.

I need to find my notes.

My favorite and the one I saw numerous times was Vanessa. German, blonde, pear-shaped, small tits, large ass, nice legs, nice face. She was a little crazy, liked it rough particularly from behind. She would get on all fours practically asking for it. She wasn't into missionary. Her BJs were also quite rough though with too much tooth contact.

Vanessa has retired, unfortunately.

Catalyst
06-28-06, 03:03
St. Augustine

Natalie, German, 24?, looks 8, attitude 8

I had gone two days without finding a girl who would kiss me, so I badly wanted to get to a premium service establishment, one that I was familiar with and could rely on. The selection was fine and I quickly zeroed in on Natalie, a nice looking German girl with short blonde hair curled inwards and freckles. I asked her if we could do it on the circular sofa in the center of the main room and she said that was fine with her, so we spread out our towels on the circular sofa and got started. We began kissing and I sighed with satisfaction and relief. We did several positions and I finally had a satisfying finish.

Hanging out and waiting for the batteries to recharge got boring. There was no action going on in either of the main rooms and not much to do other than wander from room to room. Sitting in the main room with the circular bed I noticed Celine, who I had seen on my last trip and liked, but she didn’t notice me. She was talking with a friend and seemed to be upset about something. She was by far the most beautiful girl in the place, a 9, so I was hoping that this problem would get resolved, but for about 15 minutes it showed no signs of improving. I asked another girl what was going on.

Natalie (again) and
Celine, Italy, 23?, looks 9, attitude 10

The girl told me in vague terms what was wrong—I forget what it was, but it didn’t seem so bad—and said that she would tell Celine that I was interested. After a word Celine came and sat with me with a big smile on her face. She was warm and friendly and showed no signs of being upset. I asked her if she wanted to do a threeway with Natalie and she said ok. She spoke to Natalie and it seemed that everything was arranged. First she sat with me alone and spent a long time with me, talking and snuggling. When she started the blow job it was slow and fantastic, and it seemed perfectly natural that she would go down on me in a room full of people. I wondered what had happened with Natalie, but this was so good I didn’t want to say anything. Then, after a long blow job she asked me if I was ready for her to get Natalie.

We went to the big bed in the center of the open room next to the whirlpool. There was a couple on the sofa in front of us and as we got started I could hear that they were getting started too. We took turns kissing, making out with one while the other blew me, and then I asked them to kiss each other. Celine looked at me with a big smile and said sheepishly that it was extra. I asked how much and she said in an embarrassed tone “25 each?”. No problem, I said, and they smiled and started kissing. They also went down on each other. All this time I could hear the sounds of the couple on the couch, and from time to time someone would walk in to see what was going on, but they mostly acted disinterested and only stayed for a moment, which I found odd. Maybe they didn’t want to gawk. I decided to finish in Celine’s mouth, but wasn’t able to. I didn’t try too long since I didn’t want to feel like a grunting sweating oaf and because I wasn’t sure if it was going to be extra and I was spending a lot already.

I asked at the desk if I could go out to get some dinner and return and they said it would be no problem. I did, but I returned after 9 PM. I didn’t think this would be a problem, since the club was open until 1, but it was. Many of the nice girls had left. I had wanted to do Celine and Natalie again, but right after I arrived I saw Celine walk off with another guy and she left after that. There had been a couple of other girls that I might have been interested in, but they were gone too. I was disappointed and started to panic. Sitting on the bench sofa against the wall was a nice Croatian girl with curly black shoulder length hair who I had seen in Sudbad in Koln before. I asked her if she would do it with me in the main room, but she said no.

Natalie (again)

So I decided that it would be more fun to do Natalie again since she would do it in the main room. She was also missing, but she soon walked in. I was sitting next to the Croatian girl and I smiled at her. Natalie came over and we talked and then got started. We made out, she blew me, and then she got on top of me. The Croatian girl was next to us, staring straight ahead, trying to ignore us. After a few minutes of cowgirl I rolled Natalie onto the sofa without coming out of her and got on top of her. We were facing the Croatian girl and I reached out and held her hand. Natalie kissed most of the time, but after a while she put her head back so it was hard to reach her. I finished inside her and thus ended another good trip, not quite as successful as usual, but interesting.

Catalyst
06-28-06, 03:04
Dolce Vita

I had heard good reports about Dolce Vita FKK and what good value it was. I hadn’t explored the lower priced clubs and I wondered if I really had to pay the high cost of the big FKKs or whether the less expensive clubs were just as good. Also I decided that I could do something to keep down the costs of this trip after the big Wildenrath bill I had carelessly racked up.

Upon entering the club my hopes were high. It was apparent that the lower entry fee paid for less luxurious surroundings, but the difference was not so great. The girls were almost as good looking as at higher priced clubs, and maybe they would have better attitudes since they were not so expensive and maybe would be less likely to have too high opinions of themselves.

It didn’t work out that way.

Carmen, Russia, 26?, looks 6, attitude 5

I started with Carmen who said she was from Russia. She was a 6. Or maybe I misheard her and she said we would be rushing. She wouldn’t kiss and it was mechanical. I really don’t remember much about it. Afterwards I asked some of the other guests whether it was common for the girls not to kiss. They said that some did and some didn’t.

The good part was that it really was cheap. It was 70 euros for the first girl and 25 each for the next two. So I thought of it as a 45 euro entry plus 25 per girl. If I wanted to do a fourth girl I had to start over and pay the entry fee again. So I was making up for my expensive Wildenrath visit. But I don’t go to all the trouble of getting to Germany just so I can spend the minimum amount and get second rate entertainment.

Lola, Turkey, 26?, looks 6, attitude 5

Next up was Lola, from Turkey. She was a 6. She was cranky and wouldn’t kiss either. I didn’t make much effort to finish since I still had another 25 euro girl to go and I was more concerned about the limited amount of sperm I had for the rest of my trip than the limited amount of money.

Sara, Poland, 26?, looks 6, attitude 3

It was late, I still had a day left in my trip, and I didn’t want to have another expensive day, so I decided to do my third girl here and call it a night. I thought if there were girls here who kissed and had nice attitudes I was bound to get lucky soon. I picked Sara from Poland, a short girl with stiff wavy blonde hair that felt like it had a lot of hairspray in it. She was a 6. There weren’t many good looking girls left after her, so if she wasn’t good there wasn’t much for me here.

She was the worst. She wouldn’t kiss, she had a sour attitude, and before I was finished she started bitching that my 20 minutes was up. I told her that it was 30 minutes and she said no. So we went to the manager to settle the issue and she was right; I only got 20 minutes. That was fine with me. I would save my energy for the next day when I would make a triumphant return to St. Augustine.

Catalyst
06-28-06, 03:05
Wildenrath

As soon as I arrived at Wildenrath Mina, who I had met on my previous visit to the club but not chosen, jumped me and bombarded me with commercial offers. She tried to sell me a laughable deluxe session with her friend for more than 300 euros. But she was clearly the best looking girl there, so I foolishly went with her for an ordinary session. She was Iranian, with long straight black hair and a perfect thin tight figure. I asked her if she would do it with me on the sofa right there in the living room and she said yes. (This was before the renovation of Wildenrath. There used to be a big blue leather sofa in the main room with the bar.)

So I ignored obvious warning signs but please remember that this was by far the hottest girl in the club, and furthermore the second hottest was Nadia, who I had already done on my previous trip. Somehow the club’s policy had changed since my last visit and sessions now had to be paid for in advance. The price was 80 euros for a session. I asked if I could do cim. She said that I could, but it was 50 euros extra and also had to be paid in advance. I reluctantly said ok.

Mina, Iran, 21?, looks 9, attitude 4

So we did it right there in the middle of the room. It was mechanical. She kissed, but reluctantly and without any tongue. Still, she was great looking and we were doing it on the sofa. But I got pissed when it was time for the cim. It seemed that I had misunderstood. I wasn’t allowed to cum in her mouth, only on it. She kept her mouth closed the whole time. At least it spilled all over her tits and made a nice mess. A few minutes later when I was in the shower she came in with it still all over her. She had been walking around wearing it for several minutes (maybe showing it off to the other girls). So that was kind of hot, but I still paid 130 euros for a mechanical fuck with a rip off cim.

The club had a lot of excess space. I went upstairs to check out the food. There was a large buffet area, but the only food there was two large vats of watery ground meat in tomato sauce and understandably no one was eating it. The entire upstairs area was often completely empty.

Nadia was the girl I had seen on my last visit. She looked fine, probably worth an 8, though I wanted to try someone else. I had seen at least one other girl who I could be interested in, but she disappeared for a long time. I waited and had a couple of beers, gradually realizing how boring it was to hang out in this club. There was little conversation. The girls spent long stretches of time playing video poker and looked bored to death. I eventually gave up on finding another girl and decided to go back to Nadya. I sat next to her on the sofa and said hi. She looked straight ahead and said hi. Something seemed wrong. I said “how are you?” and she blurted out “I don’t do sex in the room!!” So I smiled, said ok, and got up.

A minute later I came back and asked her if she would do it on the big circular bed in the living room upstairs (which was darker and had fewer people in it). She said no, but didn’t seem to mind being asked. I was friendly about it. A minute later she came over to me and said ok, she would.

Nadia, Dutch, 24?, looks 9, attitude 6

So we went upstairs and got started (without paying in advance, of course, since Mina had been lying). While she was blowing me I noticed a group of guys watching and she said that they annoyed her, that they only came to watch but never went with a girl. When I got on top of her there was no kissing and I started to wonder if none of the girls in the club kissed because the club was close to Amsterdam. Mina was on the sofa in front of us with a guy, bowing him, so there was a show that I could watch, giving me something to do with my head instead of kissing. I opted for cim again, and this time it was real. When I went to pay her I owed her 130 but I didn’t have change, so I let her keep 150, which in retrospect was too generous for a session with no kissing and an expensive cim. But I was feeling grateful that I hadn’t been ripped off again. I took a look around and saw the other good looking girl, but she looked like she still wasn’t available, and she wasn’t worth waiting for. The night was not over, however. I still had time to go to PHG.

After I left I thought about what I had spent. With the entry fee it was 315 euros for two mediocre f---s. I don’t know how I let that happen. I wasn’t going to be returning for a long time.

PHG

Ela, Turkey, 25?, looks 7, attitude 5

PHG was livelier. There was a bigger crowd and more girls, including several who were doable. I picked Ela, who was a Turkish girl, but didn’t look like one. She had long straight fluffy blonde hair and was tall with a meaty but curvy figure and a huge chest. It was an ok session with no kissing and too much talking.

Laura, Russia, 25?, looks 7, attitude 7

Next I picked Laura, a Russian girl with long wavy bright red hair and huge tits. She wouldn’t kiss either and was also too talky, but she let me do cim for only 25 extra. It was another uninspired f---. Between sessions I realized that hanging out in the main room was not relaxing. There aren’t enough places to sit, and most of the seats are just stools, which aren’t terrible comfortable. At least there was free beer, though I’m not a big drinker, especially not in FKKs.

Sandra, Russia, 23?, looks 10, attitude 8

The last girl I picked was Sandra. She was gorgeous, with long thick wavy black hair, soft smooth skin, and a gorgeous full soft chest. She looked like the porn star Princess Diana. I was standing by the wall at one end of the room and noticed her standing next to me. I realized that she had noticed me too, and we played a short game where each of us had realized that the other had noticed us but we stared off in the same direction and didn’t immediately acknowledge it.

In the room she was warm and friendly, but wouldn’t kiss. This was starting to get to me. It still wasn’t a bad session because she had a nice attitude and was spectacularly beautiful. She let me cum on her tits for 25 extra. I liked PHG a little more than Wildenrath, but I felt like I had done it and the next day I would try somewhere else.

Catalyst
06-28-06, 03:06
Another report on several clubs. None of them is Berndt's, but this thread is less busy. Let me know if any of the names is familiar.

Marlow - that could be her. Hard to tell from the picture. Is she Italian?

Akibono
06-28-06, 04:45
I suggest we have a separate link for posts about non-current visits to clubs. It would make things more organized. I like to read these reports, but they clutter up the links for those looking for specific information.

Routard
06-28-06, 15:21
I have to second Akibono. Catalyst, no offense, I do not intend to start any flame war. I've enjoyed many of your previous reports. It's OK to remember some good old memories from the past. But your last 50 reports are cut/paste from detailed reports made years ago about girls that for most are not anymore in the business, not only in the FKK threads, but also in Spain, South Africa and Brazil threads. Don't you think it is a bit too much?

You remembered me Mina from Parksauna, that unforgettable girl for me that took my FKK virginity. But still, I'm not sure that the vast majority of readers are very interested in detailed reports from the past. First timers look for practical information about the clubs themselves and general mongering tips, experienced members look for reviews about the girls and for the latest general atmosphere of the clubs. Members like to share not only information or tips but also emotions and humor. Yes, it's also some kind of therapy to discuss on the board, as we can't share anything about our hobby in our normal life. For the benefit of each of us, we all need to keep the board on the highest level of quality.

Marlow
06-28-06, 16:33
Catalyst.
Yes Celine is Italian. if you are a member of freiclub (freiclub.de) you can read up on her in detail and mull over a whole series of pics taken by her adoring fans.

Catalyst
06-29-06, 06:18
Routard,

OK, If people don't want to see any more of my reports I won't post them. When I first posted a couple of long reports I wrote that I had more of them and asked if people wanted to see them before I continued. Several people responded emphatically that they did.

My reports are NOT "cut/paste from detailed reports made years ago". They are my own reports of my own experiences which I only wrote up recently and have never posted before. I hope you are not suggesting that I didn't meet these girls, that the events I describe didn't occur, or that any of the details are copied from somewhere else.

Dedalus
06-29-06, 11:16
Hey All,

Personally I am not bothered by the Historic reports. Catalyst labels them clearly as such and if one choses not to read them, then it is pretty easy to just scroll downward.

Also, aside from the nostalgic value that a golden oldie provides, there may be a few things to be gleaned from these reports about FKK etiquette, etc. that may be of value even though they are not "current".

Maybe the best compromise IS a new thread, but until that day arrives I say post on.

Just my two cents,

Dedalus

Routard
06-29-06, 16:52
I have continued my discussion with Catalyst through PM in order not ot clutter up the board. But some PM are even better than many reports on the public board. As I had expressed my opinion first on the public board, I simply want to make it clear also on the public board that I changed my opinion about the historic reports. I apologize towards Catalyst, as I believed at first they were simply copied from older posts. Now, I look differently on those reports and admire the effort it requires to bring back old memories. Some members suggest a separate thread for it (that doesn't exist yet), why not using the Atlantis thread ?

Jackyo
06-29-06, 18:12
A month or so ago a new thread was started on which clubs deserved their own threads.

Some of us created lists of which clubs deserved their own threads, etc.. but nothing has happened so far.

We run the risk of too much clutter and club reports being difficult to locate unless something is done soon.

Do any of you have the ability to create threads? I don't.

Dedalus
06-29-06, 18:39
A month or so ago a new thread was started on which clubs deserved their own threads.

Some of us created lists of which clubs deserved their own threads, etc.. but nothing has happened so far.

We run the risk of too much clutter and club reports being difficult to locate unless something is done soon.

Do any of you have the ability to create threads? I don't.


Probably best to pm Jackson directly. Actually I will go ahead and do that.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Catalyst
07-06-06, 05:26
Hello all,

I've been away from my computer for a few days. I hope no one thought I had gone off to sulk.

I'd like to clarify a couple of things about these historical posts. Most importantly, they were all written recently. They are not C&Ps of old reports. None of it has been posted here and only a couple of details were posted at the time on other boards - mainly warnings about ripoffs.

Here is an elaboration of the explanation I gave Routard in my PM to him:
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Except for a few of my first trips I always write down the name, nationality, and now age of the girls I see, along with how much I spent, plus a couple of exceptional details added if there are any (e.g. "threw a knife at me" - wait 'til you see my Amsterdam reports if I ever post them). I've become increasingly detailed in what I write down, but even in my earlier reports I can usually tell from the price who I did cim with, who overcharged me, etc ...

People here liked some of the detailed current reports I posted here recently and I found that when I read them myself afterwards they made the past come alive. In some cases I reread experiences that I had forgotten and they were recaptured. So I undertook a large project to write up every mongering holiday I have ever taken before ever more details faded from my mind. I looked up credit card receipts to see what restaurants I had been to, airline tickets and itineraries to see what time my flights left, bank withdrawals, digital photos with the time and date the file was created ...

Then there was a lot of detective work concentrating on remembering and piecing together details. I might write about one girl and how much I liked her and then it comes back to me that one of the things I liked about her was that she kissed and it was a relief because the two previous ones didn't. I might remember that I had just eaten in a good restaurant when I saw a particular girl and maybe told her about it or maybe couldn't finish because of the wine I had drunk, and then I find the charge for the restaurant dated in an old credit card statement. Maybe I picked a girl in a hurry because I arrived late at a club and then I find a dated photo of myself on a hilltop with the sun going down and remember that this is why I was late that night. I might remember looking out the window at the snow and that rules out all but one possible date. I might remember hurrying to catch a flight or making a small withdrawal from the ATM to top off my cash, and I have dated records of most of these events .

In Rio there is a girl who is lost, I don't remember anything about her, but I know I saw her because I have a clear memory of a girl seeing me going to a room and saying "you're going again?" and knowing that it was my third time even though I only remembered two of the girls. If I could just find some record of some detail, maybe remember her hair or something another girl said about her ...

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Holy cow!! That last phrase was the trigger! Just as I wrote "something another girl said about her" I remembered one of the last lost girls from my Rio trips!! The whole thing just came back to me this very moment! It was an ok girl with dirty blonde hair. What was exceptional about her was that she had a really annoying way of kissing. She would stick her tongue in my mouth and wouldn't make contact with my lips. It was kind of gross and she kept doing it even when I recoiled from her. What caused me to remember it as I wrote the end of that last sentence is that afterwards one of the girls (Dani) mentioned it to me. She saw it and she thought it was gross too. She could tell that I didn't like it and wondered why the girl didn't stop doing it. I swear I'm not making this up. Damn! I don't have editing rights to those Rio posts anymore. But thanks, guys.

OK, here's the ironic rest of the sentence that I was editing. Routard can verify that I included this same paragraph in my PM to him, but without the part about remembering what another girl might have said.
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... I think the whole experience would come flooding back like in Proust.

In one or two places I might have moved a girl from one day to the next or in front of another girl, but I'm sure I got almost everything right and maybe even everything. Some of the descriptions of the girls are sketchy and in a couple of places I admit that I just don't remember anything at all, but most of it I remember after a lot of work and thought devoted to remembering and piecing together.
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I'm currently working on my Amsterdam visits, but those are long ago and very sketchy. They will have some big holes in them. Maybe I'll let them sit awhile and see if I have more memory rushes like the one above.

As for my remaining hisgtorical reports on Germany, there are only three. Why don't I post them on the Babylon branch. I've already posted a couple there and it is not active. There have been seven posts in the last three years and the last one was three months ago. If Jackson creates a historical reports branch I'm happy for all of these reports to be moved. The only thing I would request about such a branch is that all the material be new (e.g. never posted before), as mine is, even if the events are not.

I also have one interesting report on the Frankfurt RLD that I posted on the once active but now moribund DexterH site years ago that I can post. Speak up if you want to see it.

Kingwenslas
07-06-06, 22:12
As I’ve already stated, Bernd’s is pretty much my favourite club at the moment. I went there again about three Fridays ago with a good friend of mine who was a mongering virgin (since getting married, anyway).

I told my friend that one reason why Bernd’s is my favourite is because of the service they give, and that, for example, half an hour is half an hour, so if you orgasm quickly the session does not end.

I was therefore quite surprised when he came out of the first ever FKK session in his life stating that he had been charged 100 Euros and definitely had not had anything like an hour.

To cut a long story short, what we found out after complaining was as follows: -

Half an hour is half an hour, except if you cum and then ask the girl to try to make you cum again. This is then deemed to be a new session even if you are five minutes into your first session. If, however, you lie on the bed with the girl and talk, kiss and caress until the 30 minutes are up then that is still the first session so you only pay 50 Euros.

Unfortunately my friend came quite fast and then let the girl start a second session, but then he told her to stop when he realised he would not cum again so fast, but he still had to pay up.

I thought I was pretty much an FKK expert, but I certainly learnt something here, hence this post. I spoke to three other girls about it and they all verified the rule.

Perhaps another thing worth mentioning is that we went on a Friday on the day of a good football match, but following a bank holiday. I was hoping that the football would keep the number of men down, but actually it attracted more customers who all thought they would take advantage of the game. And secondly, some of the regular girls were not there as they were taking advantage of the long weekend to have a break.

I won’t bother to describe all my sessions, as they were excellent, but I will just say that although Brandy was on waitress duty that day, I still managed to get in a quickie with her. Part of the pleasure of this was seeing the look on another punter’s face when he saw me leading the “maid” away to one of the rooms. Oh, and it was her birthday and she gave me some Champagne which I thought was a nice touch.


While I am here, I will give you my humble thoughts about posting historical reports: -

I am weakly against the idea, unless they are amusing, well written or full of insights relevant to today’s audience. I’m afraid that I skipped over the straightforward descriptions of sessions with girls who are now long gone. Please don’t take this as criticism but more as an inspiration to create more posts which inform and entertain us fellow posters, punters and mongerers.

Kingwenslas

Fly Bob
08-30-06, 16:36
It has been a long time and no reports. How is Bernds surviving the summer vacation period? I hope to be in the area late September and would like to spend a day. Anyone know about changes going on?

Bob

Polar
08-30-06, 18:15
It has been a long time and no reports. How is Bernds surviving the summer vacation period? I hope to be in the area late September and would like to spend a day. Anyone know about changes going on?

Bob

I hope it has survived. I will be there next Monday and of course post a report afterwards.

I try to follow things on some german forums. With my limited school german I'm able to understand say 50% of what is said. But as far as I can understand, there should be no problem. I look more or less only for certain girls, and as long as they are there, I'm happy.

Dick Rambone
08-30-06, 18:47
I plan to be there the first week of October. Hope your still there.

Dick

Stano
08-30-06, 21:41
It has been a long time and no reports. How is Bernds surviving the summer vacation period? I hope to be in the area late September and would like to spend a day. Anyone know about changes going on?

Bob

Don't worry : everything is OK at Bernds. I was there a few days ago. Most of the well known "stars" were on duty : Mara, Brandy, Sandra, Mina, Jenny ...
A recommend a new one : Trixie ! Be sure not to be desapointed if you bring her to a "zimmer".
There is also a new Czech girl : Marcella with big and beautiful breasts ... enjoy her smile !
And ... how ... I forgot the new top model : Anna from Poland ! But there is a problem : she is busy all the time. You have to wait in front of the entrance if you want to book her !

Polar
09-05-06, 21:20
Monday was Hof-time. I had planned to arrive by opening, but missed it as usual and arrived around 13.45. I wonder why it's so difficult to stand there in a que (?) when they open and really go for the first round of the day. The drive alway takes longer than I plan.

There is still a slight vacation-influence regarding the lady assortment. However, the line-up in number is very good with a lot of new faces. Some I wonder if they really have passed 18 years of age...It will be interesting to see next time how many of the new girls that can stand up to the Hof standard and will stay.

This monday was a very slow day. Excellent for the guests, but it must have been booring for the girls. More about that later. I sat in the new and very unpractical sofa upstairs and counted to 9 girls at the same time as we where 2 men in the room. Downstairs the situation was very alike.

It was unfortunately cloudy and slightly cold, but still possible to sit in the garden for a while and talk to some other guests. Practiced my school German a little bit. The only drawback with Bernds is the limited space. The garden is not much to walk around in, and inside, well, what to say. Either you sit in the sofa or stand by the bar, that's about it.

When I first started to visit FKK clubs, the funny part was to see new girls every time and encounter new experiences. Luckily, I can say that I have only had two rather poor rounds. Much thanks to info on this forum. Now, Bernds has become the absolut favourite no 1 and I stick to this club.

To make things more complicated, I also stick to the same girl. Might sound boring, but why not. The good thing is that the more time you spend together, the more you get out of the session. Not really a surprise.

I spend my time at the club with Mara as much as possible. I was not able to catch her by opening, so I waited in the upstairs sofa for her to show up by the bar. When she saw me, she said she would just come back after some refreshing acitivites. When she came back, she said there was a guy that had asked for her and he had to leave at 15.00 the latest. We now talked 14.27. Would it be OK for me to wait until she was back - "it won't take long". Well, I will stay the whole day, so I can wait. 10 minutes later she was back!! Why do you pay 70 Euro entrance and 50 Euro to the girl for some 5 minutes activity?

After that we spent slightly over 1 hour in the room. 60 minutes of continous activity and after that I thing we both felt like we had been running som 10 km. It was rather warm and extremely swetty. I believe I start to know what she likes and that makes things even more funny.

Resting time in the garden, food from Restaurant Reuter and then time for the next round. Another hour in the room and I do think she had some fun out of it as well. After the session, we sat in the sofa for some 30 minutes of cuddling. The girls around was giggling about the couple in love.

The slow day had really made the girls more and more giggling. There are many new young ones, and they are really playful. Marcella, at the club since some 3 weeks, made an exact sound-immitation of a frog. After that she showed that she could put her whole hand in her mouth (!) and yes, she could. So you guys out there with extremely big dicks, Marcella is the one for you. Next step was smoking a cigarette with her pussy. 2 meters away Brandy was fucking a guest in the sofa and behind the bar one of the regular guests took care of everyones need for drinks. I think this is more or less this club in a nutshell. A lot of couch action, intimate and with very good spirit.

Around 23.00 it was time to withdraw to the nearby hotel Reuter.

Hollandmale
09-09-06, 14:22
I just registered at ISG but have been visiting Bernds Schieferhof for over a year now. Also other German FKK's for over 2 years, mostly PHG-Oedt and GT-Bruggen, partly Freude-Bochum and Samya-Cologne. Since last year I'm also visiting a new Dutch FKK, YinYang in Roermond, on the border near PHG and GT. And recently a new Belgian FKK, Relax (formerly Ritz), halfway between Antwerp/B and Eindhoven/NL. Usually I post on www.ijsberenforum.nl, sometimes on www.rheinforum.com. Some other ISG-members also do, as postings in English are also welcome :).

OK, enough off-topic introductions, so back to Bernds Schieferhof. Recently I posted a shortlist on IJsberenforum about my favorite Hof-girls. I'll translate that list with some details here; please feel free to add remarks or advise to these or other girls. Mondays through Wednesdays are the best to visit Bernds, as it's usually less busy than on Thurdays and Fridays. Most Hof-girls speak sufficient English and are present from Mondays through Fridays (except holidays), starting at 1 PM unless stated otherwise:

Babsi: Attractive German blonde, 42 but looking much younger, 5'7, figure size-4, great looking (and feeling !) natural C-cups. A steady Hof-girl for 7 years, Babsi's service is outstanding, even for already high Hof-standards. She's also an excellent choice for lesbian trio's (very common at the Hof), especially with Brandy and Mara. Babsi is absent on Mondays.

Sandra: Bernds masseuse-girl, very friendly German blonde, 37 but looking younger, 5'7, figure size-2, nice B-cups. Sandra does fine regular massages at E 25,-/half hour, but also full-service massages including FK, BBBJ and CIM for E 50,-/half hour. Either way, her service is excellent, proven by the fact that you have to sign her reservation list at the bar, preferably before 2 PM. Sandra is present on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays.

Svenja: Very friendly and sweet Italo/German girl, long straight black hair, 22, 5'5, figure size-2, super body and B-cups. A steady Hof-girl for several years, Svenja's service is excellent, particularly her BBBJ and CIM. She can really revive a dead man with her blowjobs ! Svenja starts daily at 4 PM.

Stella: Very attractive little Turkish girl, long curly black hair, 21, 5'0, figure size-2, super body and B-cups. A steady Hof-girl for several years, Stella's service is excellent, particularly her cowgirl, reverse and doggy IC. BBBJ is also very good, although she doesn't do CIM. Stella has many longterm clients, so sometimes hard to get. She starts daily at 5 PM.

Brandy: Tall Polish girl, long curly blond hair, 32 but looking younger, 5'9, figure size-2, nice body and B-cups. A steady Hof-girl for several years, Brandy's service is outstanding, including deepthroat BBBJ/CIM with real swallowing and anal-IC. She's very energetic and truely bisexual, so perfect for a lesbian trio which she prefers with Babsi, Mara and Anna. Solo or in a trio, be ready for a real rollercoaster ride with Brandy !

Mara: Fair-skin Dutch girl, short brown hair, 22, 5'5, figure size-2, nice body and B-cups with neighbour-girl looks. A steady Hof-girl for several years, Mara's service is excellent in all aspects. She's doing excellent lesbian trio's with Babsi and Brandy. Mara has many longterm clients, so sometimes hard to get.

Ayleen: Very attractive Turkish/German girl, long curly black hair, 25, 5'8, figure size-2, super body and C-cups. A steady Hof-girl for 5 years, Ayleen's service is excellent in all aspects. She has many longterm clients, so sometimes hard to get. Ayleen usually leaves around 9 PM.

Michelle: Very friendly German girl, long curly black hair, 42, 5'7, figure size-2/4, nice body, B-cups. A steady Hof-girl for 4 years, Michelle's service is outstanding in all aspects including anal-IC. She's an excellent choice for lesbian trio's, preferring Babsi and Brandy. A must for MILF-lovers !

Anna: Very attractive Polish girl, medium-long blond hair, 23, 5'8, figure size-2/4, great body and C-cups. A Hof-girl for about 5 months, Anna's service is excellent in all aspects. For lesbian trio's she prefers Brandy which are great, according to a fellow Dutchman.

Jenny: Attractive tiny Greek/German girl, long curly blond hair, 22, 4'11, figure size-0/2, nice body and A/B-cups. A Hof-girl for a year, Jenny's service is excellent in all aspects including anal-IC. She's also doing good lesbian trio's with several longterm Hof-girls.

I also had some good sessions with Katja (blowjob-miracle, doing public CIM's !), Tanja, Mina (fiery readhead !), Jessy, Celine, Rita (stunning looks !) and Princess (currently the only African girl at Bernds, stunner body !).

The service provided by the Hof-girls is unrivalled by any other club. Indeed, most girls would be Top-Acts elsewhere :) !

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Jackyo
09-09-06, 22:11
This as comprehensive a list as I've seen anywhere.

I'd add Monika who is Hungarian, dark-haired, about 5'3", 115 lbs, petite. She has a beauty mark on one side of her face (can't remember which side). I've been with her before at Wiago and at Babylon. She has a Latin look but she doesn't have one drop of Latin blood. I thought she looked Brazilian when I first met her.

Celine is about 5'7", nice legs and hips, small tits (she wanted to have them enhanced she said - I'd prefer that she left them the way they were), blonde. I had multiple sessions with her the last time I was there. She's easy to talk to, willing to try different things.

Both provide services at the "Hof-standard".

Jenny is a major exhibitionist and will keep you entertained when you are between sessions. She does this thing where she puts her fingers down there and tries to catch you looking at her. Since they are not supposed to approach the men at this club, this is the only way she is allowed to catch your attention other than offering you a drink once in a while.

Princess is petite, French from Senegal. Nice tits, nice ass, very pleasant personality.

Routard
09-10-06, 11:03
Welcome to ISG Hollandmale, I'm a silent reader on Belgian and Dutch forums, and one of your admirers. Yes guys, Hollandmale is a star on the local forums!

Routard

Hollandmale
09-10-06, 16:18
Celine is about 5'7", nice legs and hips, small tits (she wanted to have them enhanced she said - I'd prefer that she left them the way they were), blonde. I had multiple sessions with her the last time I was there. She's easy to talk to, willing to try different things.

Princess is petite, French from Senegal. Nice tits, nice ass, very pleasant personality.Celine was a blonde before, but last time I saw her (24/05/06) her hair was dark brown, almost black. Did she change to be a blonde again ? Celine told me she has her breast surgery planned for early October. So let's check some follow-up reports. By the way, my sessions with Celine were great, certainly up to Hof-standard, FK-DATY-IC-BBBJ-CIM.

Good description of Princess. And may I add: Princess has an absolute stunning body, real tight, very smooth skin, fantastic body curves. Her tits are very nice enhanced and firm C-silicons, standing upward with protruding hard nipples. Although I rarely go with African girls, Princess made me ready for action immediately. We did a session on 26/04/06 when she just arrived in Schieferhof. Her service is certainly up to Hof-standard, FK-DATY-IC-BBBJ-CIM. And the latest reports suggest that she's still improving. Princess is very cute, sweet and communicative, speaking English, German and French.

Stano
09-10-06, 20:00
Hello, Hollandmale, nice to meet you here also.

Thanks for your short list, but I think you forgot Trixie. Don't say that you have no experience with her because I won't believe, I was just in front of you in the sofa :-))

Peter
09-10-06, 21:51
I would send a pm, but you can't get them yet, but what is IC and what is Anal IC?

Euro100
09-10-06, 22:08
IC = InterCourse (?)

Jackyo
09-11-06, 02:30
Celine was a blonde before, but last time I saw her (24/05/06) her hair was dark brown, almost black. Did she change to be a blonde again ? Celine told me she has her breast surgery planned for early October. So let's check some follow-up reports. By the way, my sessions with Celine were great, certainly up to Hof-standard, FK-DATY-IC-BBBJ-CIM.


I saw her in May too!

Maybe her hair was more light brown than blonde. I wouldn't think of her as having black hair though.

I had such a good time with her I even promised I'd marry her and send her an engagement ring. She promised she'd stay true to me.. but only until the next customer.

Yeah, I know. I had it pretty bad.

Hollandmale
09-12-06, 08:01
thanks for your short list, but i think you forgot trixie. don't say that you have no experience with her because i won't believe, i was just in front of you in the sofa :-))ooowwhhh yesss stano, how could i forget trixie last august 14, the latest top-attraction in the hof. as you mentioned, we were sitting on the couch opposite to you. trixie gave all four of us head, in a straight row, one by one. i was the last one to join her, around 10 pm.

as all rooms were occupied, we continued at the spielwiese with my fellow dutchmen having some sneaky peeps, behind the big glass window. that didn't prevent trixie to go straight down to business with a deep and wet bbbj. i returned that favour with some slippery daty, after which we were both ready for some very nice missionary and cowgirl. the room next door came available, so that's where we continued.

we repeated pretty much our whole session. some fiery fk, deep bbbj standing up, continued wet daty laying down, followed by some very slippery missionary, cowgirl and reverse. i wanted to finish off with a flat lay down doggy, but it took a little more than that. so trixie turned me over for a final bbbj and had me cim very nice. all 'n all we spend 1,5 hours, from the upstairs couch untill the downstairs room, at the cost of 2 programme (2x e50 = e100).

trixie is 24, brunette, german, 5'8, a figure size-2 with natural b-cups, excellent service, certainly up to hof-standards (and more) with fk-daty-ic*-bbbj-cim. that was the opinion of all 4 of us, as we kept trixie occupied from 6 pm till 11.30 pm ;).

(* = intercourse)

Rob100
09-13-06, 00:30
Welcome here, it took a while but you found us also here :-)

Iseeu
09-13-06, 00:55
Finally had a chance to visit Bernd's after more than a year away. Last time, I came away less than impressed and felt that it was missing the unique Bernd's flavor that allowed it to stand out, despite the inferior facility, etc. Since I went on record as saying that IMO it was no longer a top club, I feel that I need to give credit where it is due.

Well that's all changed back to the better. As Hollandmale has given a very detailed and accurate picture of the women and lineup, all I can add, is that it is these gems of service that give Bernd's its name. Much has been written about the unique, intimate atmosphere and decadent scenes. Well it's all there and oozing. Business for a Thursday night from 7 p.m. till closing was very slow - may be 15 men the whole evening.

Sightings: Celine ( definitely a brunette, used to be blonde, but not down there), Svenja, Stella, Brandy, Mara, Michelle, Anna, Jenny, Katja, Mina Jessica, and Princess.

Sessions:
* Jessica - we really hit it off. She's working hard to save up for new boobs and I spent most of the night trying to show her that her current equipment is perfect (Looks: 8, Personality:10, Service:10)
* Mara - Great intelligent girl - Very special person. ( Looks:7, Personality:10, Service 9)
* Katja - As reported a BBBJ expert (Looks: 8, Personality: 8, Service: 9)

Would have had a session with Princess, but we ran out of time so no rating for service (Looks: 9 - what a body!, personality:9)

At one point I was sitting on the couch with Jessica on one side holding my jewels, Mara lying on my lap and DFKing Jessica while fingering Katja, whose ample booty was in our face as she went down on another customer. You don't see scenes like this in Kansas.....

Whitey2
09-13-06, 04:36
You don't see scenes like this in Kansas.....

You got that right.

Hollandmale
09-13-06, 07:50
Sessions:

* Jessica - we really hit it off. She's working hard to save up for new boobs and I spent most of the night trying to show her that her current equipment is perfect (Looks: 8, Personality:10, Service:10)Jessica = Jessy/Jessie/Jessi ?!

Routard
09-13-06, 22:15
bernd´s saunaclub (schieferhof) schieferhof 28 53773 hennef/lichtenberg (tel. 02248-1529) http://www.bernds-sauna-club.de. open from monday till thursday from 14h00 till 0h00, friday from 14h00 till 1h00. entrance is 70€ and pricing is 50€ for session.

take a560 to hennef. continue straight on at the end of the highway on b8. after a few km, take right towards lichtenberg in a street named oberdorfstrasse. follow this road till a main road. turn right on the main road named uckerather strasse. you will have hotel reuter (uckerather strasse 72 53773 lichtenberg, tel. 02248-26550) on your right hand side. a room and breakfast is 35€, hotel can be booked from the club. the first street left after the hotel is schieferhof. the club is in a regular house at number 28. as it is a residential area, you may not park elsewhere than at the club’s parking lot on number 24.

bernds is a legendary club as it is the first fkk. everything started here more than 20 years ago and is now referred as the mother of all fkk. but it’s reputation is not only due to it’s history. it is also considered as being the wildest fkk of all, with an unique erotic atmosphere and the best offered service. yes, bernd’s is hot!!! even the professional masseuse can be fucked! there have been constant rumors about bareback sex being offered, but i can't confirm and didn't even try to check it out.

it starts at the door, a full naked girl welcomed me. she was a tall slim nicely tanned dark haired german girl in her early 20 with natural c breast. she introduced herself: trixie. she gave me a complete visit of the club with all the practical information. i did not follow everything she told me, and not only because of my poor german skills. i had my eyes and mouth widely open and my tongue reaching the floor while listening to her. but she kindly acted as if she didn’t notice it and during all my stay she felt responsible for me, inquiring from time to time if everything was ok. she was on my to do list, but the list was too long. i definitely need to come back.

here the practical information and a guided tour in case you will not follow everything too. you pay 70€ at entrance and get towel, sandals and locker key. take the corridor at the right side when in front of the entrance desk for the locker room. you need to give a name linked to the locker number for account opening. each session will be registered on your account by giving to the girl your name and number and you pay everything when leaving the club. pricing is 50€/30min and this includes bbbj and cim and anal is 50€ additional, but girls are not clock watchers and couch action is standard. the girls are not allowed to approach, you need to make the first step. drinks and food are included in entrance price.

there are two meeting rooms, one in the main floor and one in the basement. both have a single large u shaped sofa around a table and a bar with chairs. each floor has showers. the main floor has also the dinning room with buffet made by hotel reuter. food is better than at most other fkk. there is an outdoor garden to relax on a sunny day but the neighbour has sight on it. it is kindly requested not to be naked and not to have sex outside. there are bedrooms on each floor. and of course, did i mention there is a sauna?

there are 12 to 16 girls, in between 20 and 30 years old from mainly from germany, turkey and eastern europe. dressing code is naked. looks are good, at fkk standard, but the difference comes from attitude and service. most are regular service providers for several years at bernd’s. there is no other fkk were girls seem to genuinely enjoy sex as much as here. customers are mainly older german, most are regular customers for years. nudity is no big deal, even the customers tend to walk around naked. the towel is mainly to sit on it for hygienic reason.

the overall decoration is really old fashioned. but one thing seems to help for a better atmosphere: customers and girls are all sitting together on the single u shaped sofa. it allows to speak to each other without commitment. ruling language is german, but customers and girl switch easily to english as soon as they feel that you are not always comfortable with german. another socializing area is at the bar. surprisingly, the regular german customers are open minded towards first timer foreigners. i had fun with a japanese first time customer too, the only other foreigner that night.

but now the best part of the club: the unique atmosphere. it is hard to describe, and it’s better to live it. girls may not approach, but know exactly how to get attention. they don’t have obscene attitude, but flash their pussy on a very natural way. girls talk together with stretched legs on the sofa and one hand playing with pussy. i was discussing with a customer sitting next to me. one girl was already starting a bbbj on him, but he continued discussing with me as if nothing was happening. the girl had one foot on the floor and another one on the sofa near my shoulder. my face was at 50cm from her delicious wide open pink pussy. a bit embarrassed, i watched on the other side. but my other neighbour was already mounted by a cowgirl. in front of me, a guy was receiving a bj by a girl on an upside down position, her feet on the wall reaching nearly the ceiling. and when i looked back again to my first neighbour, he was already in doggy style on the sofa. the strange thing is that the atmosphere is never the same. at some moment everything looks like a regular pub and 10 minutes later, the wildest things are happening around. other funny thing is that most customers are old timers, but they have incredible health thanks to all those sexy ladies! i watched all the scene amused, and my to do list just kept growing.

one girl i noticed at first was dark haired dutch mara. she reminds me an old teenage girlfriend. she has a teenager look with her young petite b cupped body, pretty “next door girl” face and soft white skin contrasting with her unshaved pussy. she is very kind and quiet, speaks fluently dutch, german and english. there was a good chemistry together. cuba, dominican republic, indonesia…we had many destinations in common. we started to kiss on the sofa, but one girl disturbed us and asked mara to come to the kitchen. we skipped coach action and went straight to the room in order to be alone. she is very sweat, likes to dfk and her bbbj are very deep. she asked me if i always smiled like that. no, not always, but with her for sure. i loved her small body, and enjoyed having sex with her. she is definitely not a clock watcher, fortunately, as it took me very long to orgasm. after the session, she was again on my to do list, but unfortunately she is very popular and i could not catch her for a second session.

never mind, there were plenty other girls on my to do list. i went with hungarian maria who has a similar look too. she is even smaller, and has a body of an ****d girl. her attitude was not as friendly, i could not get a chemistry. but her narrow ass was incredible. what is life good to me!

turkish stella made a striptease (in bernd’s, this means that she dresses herself up!). she was hot, and was on top of my to do list, but didn’t manage to get a session with her. so, i finished the evening with romanian tina. she has a perfec petite body, short dark hair very nice face and incredible bue eyes. not a real chemistry too, but nice session with quality performance.

it was time to go…and to pay. it’s funny, as the girl at the desk takes your file listing all the girls you catched that evening. and they are all called to say good by!

yes, bernd's is unique!

Iseeu
09-13-06, 22:59
Yes, Jessica is the wonderful Jessi/Jessie/Jessy. Highest recommendation and the more business she drums up, the quicker she gets to her new boobs.

Iseeu
09-13-06, 23:03
Mon ami,
Another great report and I'm so happy that you've broken your Hof cherry. It can get addictive.
And once again, we keep choosing the same woman, a couple of days apart.

Routard
09-14-06, 09:50
Next time I write you a PM on the girl's butt, you might read it when doggy styling her!

Routard

Jackyo
09-14-06, 12:10
Monsieur Routard,

So this was your first time?! I would have thought an experienced monger such as yourself would have already been there.

Yes, its a very unique club. Anything goes.

Routard
09-14-06, 12:56
Yes Jackyo, Bernd's was on my to do list for long time already, and is a must for any mongerer. But as long as I'll still have places on my to do list, I will live, so I'm not in a hurry. And believe me, my to do list is long!

Routard

Euro100
09-14-06, 23:22
Since I know Routard fairly well, and since I have very similar tastes and attitudes, I will try Bernd's as well when I return to Deutschland in December. Routard's report is a classic and really motivated me to give this palce a try.

thanks
euro

Iseeu
09-15-06, 08:38
Routard,
Or leave me a note in her pussy with a string attached, so I can see it when I'm DATY :-)

Euro100
09-15-06, 11:06
Routard,
Or leave me a note in her pussy with a string attached, so I can see it when I'm DATY :-)


Uhhh, that's gross.

Reminds me of the old joke where this guy get really really drunk one night in a club. When he wakes up from his daze he finds himself in a strange bed with a naked chick next to him. He looks at her and she is ABSOLUTELY HIDEOUS. Then he feels that he has something in his mouth, with a string attached. And that string is hanging from his lip. As he grabs the string to take whatever is in his mouth out, he says "Please God, let this be a teabag!"

euro

Routard
09-15-06, 13:25
Euro, you made the correct conclusion. I had fun sampling other FKK for a change. FKK Relax (did anyone notice my report in the Belgian thread http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=506071&postcount=45? OK I agree, it was maybe not the most exciting one I made...) is the closest FKK option if coming from France, Belgium or the Netherlands, Cocoon is the cheapest option together with the RCC. But for people like us coming only once in a while, location and pricing is not the main issue, we simply want the best. And the best by far are the three Frankfurt Clubs. Only Goldentime can claim competing with them in terms of line-up and facilities. However, I wanted to experience also more erotic clubs like Partytreff and Bernd's. I'm pretty sure Euro you would have had the same feeling about Partytreff than what I had, as we both can't forget that a prostitute is a woman at first. I was uncomfortable with the concept, my experience turned out to be excellent as for some strange reason my only genuine GFE of all my trip happened there. Probability that such thing happens again in partytreff is close to zero, so it should not be taken into account for making up an opinion about it. Bernds is at the opposite, even if erotic level is as high as in Partytreff. In Bernds, girls seem genuinely enjoying what they are doing, more than in any other FKK. They seem to be proud playing in world champion league of sex. A pity that Bernd's is so small, but I guess that it needs to have that size to get that unique atmosphere. I was alone, and it must be much more fun to go with a couple of friends. So why not together next time? December you said?

Jackyo
09-15-06, 13:59
And the best by far are the three Frankfurt Clubs.

I know I keep plugging NRW relentlessly but there are two predominant kinds of clubs (and I know I am generalizing but bear with me):

1) The large clubs with great facilities and a large but unedited selection of women. You take your chances. You might find yourself with a visually stunning "burn 'em and churn 'em" girl who will give you the bare minimum in terms of services and take your money in as efficient a manner as possible. You might also have a great time if she turns out to be a GFE. The Besatzung at these larger clubs lacks stablility usually and you can read all the reviews here and on the other forums available, make lists of who to see and you will still not be able to pick out the winners from the losers. The women come and they go. These clubs are mostly oriented towards tourist traffic.

2) The smaller clubs with necessarily reduced facilities and a smaller selection of women. The selection is limited but edited as the owner exercises a point of view on who should work on his club and what constitutes great service. Because there is an editing process at work, there is also more stability in the selection and you can return year after year after months of being absent and be assured you will see more or less the same women and not stumble upon a bad experience. This stability improves your chances of being able to create connections with them. These out-of-the-way clubs don't get many tourists and so have to work to retain their Stammkunde (or client base).

I don't doubt you can have fun in a type 1 club but for my money type 2 clubs provide more bang for the buck.

There probably are also two types of club customers, those who prefer one type over the other. Different strokes for different folks.

Excess
09-15-06, 15:58
Absolutely First Class reports, Gentlemen .

So much so, that I will visit next week because of it - report to follow but doubt that I will be able to reach or beat our two posters

Hollandmale
09-16-06, 00:26
report to follow but doubt that I will be able to reach or beat our two postersDon't worry. As you report is about next week's visit, it will be the most recent report and therefore most valuable :).

Euro100
09-16-06, 01:05
I was alone, and it must be much more fun to go with a couple of friends. So why not together next time? December you said?

You bet, I am in! As soon as my trip firms up, I'll let you know. We could organize another ISG gettogether. The last one at FKK was great fun!

And then let's also talk about going to Rio. I have to show 4*4 to you. This is the wildest place I have ever been to in my entire life :D

euro

Excess
09-16-06, 11:05
Don't worry. As you report is about next week's visit, it will be the most recent report and therefore most valuable :).

Very smooth, Hollandmale, it is clear why the FKK ladies love you.

I hate to think what damage you could cause in and with your own mother tongue. :-))

As it will be my first visit to Bernd's, I am sure that I will have my eyes wide open. Look foward to it.

Crazy Travel
09-16-06, 14:12
Hi all,

My story started about in June when, after you made me know about fkk, you support my boring question and so on. THANKS, I decided to try and I tried Palace. Was great, I made my report and I felt without any wishises to come back to my country hobby (italy.) where you spent only and usually you are ripped off about service.

So, after one month I couldn't stay in my skin and I tried also Oase. But. I didn't make report as it was bad experience but bad becouse of me. During flight my temperature grow up and so only two session but only trying not to waste trip, organization and so on. And now I need to try to go again ingermany to feel again the experience.

Reading this forum my dream is Bernd's. But it's so difficult for my job to be able to go only in working days. (I'm sure one day I'll go but don't think in one or two month). Now I need your kindly help. I'd like so much to try experience like you described in Bernd's. In your opinion if I'll decide to go to Sudbad (Saturday.) could be near? I mean, near and different of Palace or Oase?

I'll follow your advise (hoping to be able soon) is better to go again in Palace (where I felt. In heaven) or could be a great experience (as I'm sure will be Bernd's. If only will open also on Saturday.) to try Sudbad?

Thank a lot guy, I promise a as much as detailed report when I'll be able to go

Jackyo
09-17-06, 09:09
In your opinion if I'll decide to go to Sudbad (Saturday.) could be near? I mean, near and different of Palace or Oase?

I'll follow your advise (hoping to be able soon) is better to go again in Palace (where I felt. In heaven) or could be a great experience (as I'm sure will be Bernd's. If only will open also on Saturday.) to try Sudbad?

Signore,

I am trying to understand your question which is, I think, whether its worthwhile going to Sudbad. I believe you are trying to say as well that your only reference point is Palace as you've not visited any other club.

Bernds is only open from Monday to Friday, closed on weekends. Sudbad is open on weekends and is Bernds sister club (though it doesn't come close to matching Bernds athmosphere). Bernds is unique.

If you are near Koeln or Bonn, these two clubs are both accessible (assuming you have a car). You should know that there are two other possibilities: Samya and Traum-Paradies (more a brothel than a club).

If you are definitely going to be near Frankfurt, one club you should visit but which you've not mentioned is World. Given limited time though, I'd pick Oase over World. Or better yet, go to both.

Crazy Travel
09-17-06, 13:12
Signore,

I am trying to understand your question which is, I think, whether its worthwhile going to Sudbad. I believe you are trying to say as well that your only reference point is Palace as you've not visited any other club.Thank Jackyo... you are right, when I read again what I wrote is difficult to understand exactly what I need... :) Sorry!

So, yes I have only experienced Palace and Oase.

Reading your post I become excited of Bernd's but for me is quite impossible as I cannot go on working day.

I'm planning to visit soon an FKK and my question is: Sudbad is similiar like atmosphere and emotion to Bernd's?

And anyway, between Palace and Subad which is the best choice in your opinion?

About location i don't think is a problem as I think to rent a car and between Frankfurt and koln is about only 170 Km.

Fly Bob
09-18-06, 21:35
[quote=crazy travel]
i'm planning to visit soon an fkk and my question is: sudbad is similiar like atmosphere and emotion to bernd's?

and anyway, between palace and subad which is the best choice in your opinion?
[quote]

crazy travel,

sudbad is not at all like bernds. it doesn't matter that the same person owns both of them, they are very different. bernds is raw and in your face. there is not much room so anything that happens on the couches is right next to you or across from you. this can happen for you just as quickly as it happens to someone else.

i personally like world the best of the frankfurt three. palace is kind of like a zoo atmosphere and all the animals are walking loose, stalking and striking. everyone seems to be on the prowl. it is all inside a warehouse and more confined. oase is like a labyrinth with areas rep001tered without any thought. if the weather is nice there is more room outside, otherwise it is crowded. the main meeting room is loud and dark. world is a modern mansion with plenty of light and nice places to sit and meet girls. the line up is similar for each place, great to ho-hum.

also, it is not required to have a car. there are lots of trains to get you close to anyplace. ask any question as this is a great place to share current information. enjoy your time.

bob

Iseeu
09-24-06, 23:35
i’m hesitating to make this report because i am afraid that horny mongerers will now overrun one of the great if somewhat remote bastions of absolute wanton sex. on the other hand i can’t keep this from my fellow aficionados.

one of the threads last week had questions about dietzenbach and led to a discussion of the most easily accessible clubs from fra. obviously palace and oase were mentioned, which got me thinking of other possibilities.
one day last week, i found myself on the way back from asia with an unplanned 8 ½ hour stopover in fra. using the broadband internet connection on the lufthansa flight, i found that there’s a direct high speed ice train from fra to siegburg.

landed in fra at 14:30 p.m., dropped my bag off at the 1st class lounge in terminal 1b, and walked to platform 6 in the fernbahnhof, which is the long range train terminal in the airport, not to be confused with the short range train terminal which is what you would use to go to palace, oase or the zeil.

39 minutes later we arrived in siegburg. i grabbed a cab for the remaining 15 km, and 15 minutes later was ringing the front doorbell at bernd’s. exactly 54 minutes total travel time, which compares favorably with traveling to oase and definitely beats going to pohlheim by public transportation.

i would not recommend this for the budget traveler. total cost was 96 euro roundtrip for the train tickets + 35 euro for the taxis. and that definitely doesn’t compare favorably with the costs for a quickie trip to palace or even oase which are both priced as local trips.

had more than 4 hours to spend in bernd's before heading back for my flight. 2 sessions at bernd’s + travel cost = 300 euro. it’s worth it for the horny atmosphere at bernd’s, which for me now becomes a stopover made in monger heaven.

Jackyo
09-24-06, 23:51
This is good to know!

This will go into my memory banks immediately for use sometime when I need to escape the FRA airport.

Its amazing how this hobby has led to me carrying around so much trivia relating to how to get to and from certain places in Germany.

I also risk being outed practically every day: I met a German woman yesterday (yes, in real life and not in my unreal one) and when I asked her where she is from she said she was from Hennef.

I was, of course, tempted to say: "Oh yes, Hennef. I've been to Lichtenberg. Just past Calygula and in the cluster of houses to the right. I've stayed at the Hotel Reuter. Also been to a club they call the Hof."

Instead I had to throw up a smoke screen: "Hmm.. is that anywhere near Bonn? Is it anywhere to the east of Koeln, say near Olpe but to the south? Where is it exactly?"

Makes me want to compose a limerick:

There was a woman from Hennef..

Iseeu
09-25-06, 00:37
Its amazing how this hobby has led to me carrying around so much trivia relating to how to get to and from certain places in Germany.

I also risk being outed practically every day: I met a German woman yesterday (yes, in real life and not in my unreal one) and when I asked her where she is from she said she was from Hennef.

I was, of course, tempted to say: "Oh yes, Hennef. I've been to Lichtenberg. Just past Calygula and in the cluster of houses to the right. I've stayed at the Hotel Reuter. Also been to a club they call the Hof."

Instead I had to throw up a smoke screen: "Hmm.. is that anywhere near Bonn? Is it anywhere to the east of Koeln, say near Olpe? Where is it exactly?"

Yes, I know the feeling. I have train schedules, rental car agency numbers, Highway Kreuzs, usual stau places and area maps of NRW, Hessen, and Bavaria all in my overcrowded mind, and could find the way to Oase or Beverly driving a rental car blindolded.

I had a very similar experience to your woman from Hennef...
A few years ago, I was with my then boss at CeBit in Hannover and he heard about this great sauna bath in Bad Homburg where all the people are naked. As his Germany expert, he asked me if we could drive there on one afternoon instead of working the exhibition, with the rental car that the company had hired for us.
I made myself stupid (not so difficult to do) and told him that Hamburg is much too far away to drive back and forth from Hannover in 1 day. I also told him that I am sure that I can find a similar sauna bath closer to Hannover as they are fairly common in Germany and I found one for him in Laatzen.

Of course, after he left Hannover, and I finished at CeBit, I drove the rental car down to Beverly on a miserable winter afternoon for an evening of wanton pleasure, and the next day I drove to Oase (passing by Bad Homburg)on my way to FRA for an afternoon and evening of ogling naked women and more. I no longer work with him but he has never stopped thanking me for going the extra length and finding that sauna bath in Laatzen as it was certainly not in my job description.

Monkey1717
09-26-06, 07:02
Hello,

I am an Asian American male thinking of going to Bernd's while I'm in Colgone. I speak English perfectly but don't speak German, could that be a problem going to Bernards? Are they a pro-German only club? Any help would be apprecaited.. thanks

Jackyo
09-26-06, 10:09
Hello,

I am an Asian American male thinking of going to Bernd's while I'm in Colgone. I speak English perfectly but don't speak German, could that be a problem going to Bernards? Are they a pro-German only club? Any help would be apprecaited.. thanks

.. in Duesseldorf as it is most commonly chosen by Japanese firms for a German or European headquarters. I've seen Japanese there and in other clubs in NRW and its never been a problem.

I have a post elsewhere on discrimination in this section of the forum. Its post #921 under the Partytreff thread.

You will manage though you don't speak German but you will get more out of the experience if you do speak German.

Monkey1717
09-26-06, 10:57
.. in Duesseldorf as it is most commonly chosen by Japanese firms for a German or European headquarters. I've seen Japanese there and in other clubs in NRW and its never been a problem.

I have a post elsewhere on discrimination in this section of the forum. Its post #921 under the Partytreff thread.Thank for your help Jackyo. I certainly will visit now:)

From Koln by train - would the easiest way be to get off at Hennef (Sieg) and then take a cab there?

Jackyo
09-26-06, 22:31
Thank for your help Jackyo. I certainly will visit now:)

From Koln by train - would the easiest way be to get off at Hennef (Sieg) and then take a cab there?

From Koeln to Hennef (Sieg) and then a cab.

You can also take a bus (forget the bus number) and walk from the bus stop on the Landstrasse (believe its called Oberdorf) towards the cluster of houses to the right.

Brush your teeth, shave and mind your manners. This advice is not anything beyond what your mother would tell you. Believe me, it goes a long way.

Fly Bob
09-27-06, 01:06
Thank for your help Jackyo. I certainly will visit now:)

From Koln by train - would the easiest way be to get off at Hennef (Sieg) and then take a cab there?

Jackyo is correct about taking the train to Hennef (Sieg). There are taxi's directly in front of the station. It will cost you about 12-15 euro from there and take about 5-10 minutes. If you take the bus you will need to have a really good sense of direction and a very detailed map because this hof is a regular looking house in a regular looking neighborhood. There is a 28 on the front of the house but that is the only thing the will tell you that you have arrived. For the price of the taxi I suggest you go that way. It will take a lot of pressure off as you would undoubtably wander around loosing time. The bus runs about three times per hour and if you are determined to go that way, you will save a few euros, you can look up the schedule on the German Rail web site http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/query.exe/e put in the station you are coming from and going to. When you get the report back you can click on the station. Then go to the other forms of transportation and you will see the bus schedules to Lichtenberg. Just take the taxi, it is easier for everyone, so we don't worry about you wandering around in the dark of night in Lichtenberg cursing your sense of direction and wasting time that would be better spent watching 15 beautiful naked women.

Remember, you are paying the enterance fee to enjoy yourself. Do that! You pay the girl to give you what you want, do that. Have a nice time and let others, especially the girls, know you are enjoying yourself and you will have a very good time. Bernds is tops for a raw FKK. Let us know your experience. Take note of who is there and who you enjoyed the most.

Bob

Kingwenslas
09-27-06, 17:46
Drive south on the A3 from Cologne (Köln) towards Frankfurt. Turn east onto the A560 autobahn. This is just after the first service station you reach after leaving the Köln area. This autobahn quickly terminates and runs into the B8. Go up the B8 about 5km (most of this is uphill). Miss the first right hand signpost saying “Lichtenberg”, and take the second, which is a very sharp right, almost coming back on yourself. It’s easy to miss these turnings, so it may be easier if you just keep on driving until you find the local petrol station on the left hand side. Do a U-turn and go back about 300m and turn left, then bear to the right. This is the “very sharp right” that I just mentioned when coming the other way. Then go about 1km until you see the Hotel-Restaurant Reuter on the right. Almost immediately turn left into Schieferhof Street. Number 28 is down on the right. Park in number 24, where it says “Privat Parkplatz”.

My report will follow. Kingwenslas

Kingwenslas
09-27-06, 17:47
My Bernd’s visit came a couple of days after my trip to Relax in Belgium 65km east of Antwerp. Go to the relevant section of this website if you are interested in reading my report.

I turned up at 1.30 to be greeted by the lovely Monica from Hungary. I’ve been with her a few times now, but she had to confess that she had forgotten my name. “That’s OK, Monica”, I said “The only reason I can remember your name is because I’ve been fantasising about you for the last three months”. No, of-course I did not say that.

Almost immediately I was introduced to cunning1 and had a good, but short chat with him about everything. I just could not understand why he had been there for a full 20 minutes longer than me and still hadn’t lost his Bernd’s virginity. So, in spite of the good conversation, I went off in search of prey.

I was interested in meeting Trixie, having read up on her, but found out that she was not there that week. I noticed an attractive girl with nice boobs who I had never seen before. She was Martina from the Czech Republic. I was very tempted but decided against as I didn’t want to risk a session with someone I had no inside information about. I also noticed another girl that I had never seen before. It turned out that she was the girlfriend of one of the guests and she’d only paid €10 to get in.

As soon as I saw Anna I made a beeline for her. I think the thing that endears me to her so much is that someone told me once that she doesn’t swallow. This was 10 minutes after she had swallowed with me. “Ach, she must like you!” was the conclusion. So we had a chat and then decided to go upstairs where there was more space to try out some couch action. This was good. In fact I got rather carried away by the BJ and gasped every now and again much to the amusement of the girls hanging around. “Is it really so bad?” they asked in their caring, motherly tones.

After 10 minutes we went to the room with the sofa in it and boy, has Anna become quite a dirty girl . I would now recommend her to anyone, whereas when she first started she was different. I wouldn’t say that the room was particularly warm, but by the time we had finished we were both covered in sweat and I was ready for a rest.

So I went and had my first beer of the day and then sunbathed in the nude for some time. I was woken up by the sound of cunning1 talking. There was also a Norwegian and an Italian bloke and it turned out that they were all at Bernd’s partly as a result of reading my reports! Oh how proud I felt. And didn’t we all praise the internet?

I then went and had my ration of sauerkraut and mashed potatoes, had a quick shower and was just off in search of more prey when I ran into two English soldiers in the locker area. Never in my life had I met so many English speaking people in Bernd’s in one go. It didn’t stop me, however, in my pursuit. I had always fancied a double in Bernd’s and had been completely indecisive about which two girls to pick. In the end I just went into the main area, saw that Monica was available and went and asked her who she would recommend. She suggested Mara and went off to find her, then came back saying that she would be over soon. In the meantime Monica passed the time by giving me a blowjob whilst we waited. I was slightly anxious by this as I wasn’t sure if we were eating into my allotted slot, but in the end I need not have worried. Eventually Mara came and the threesome started. Now, I have only heard good things about Mara, but I must confess she has never been top of my list. Anyway, just as we were going to the room, another couple asked if they could join in. I didn’t know this could ever happen so was unsure what to say. One half of this couple was Martina, so I was interested. I asked Mara’s advice and she said YES. So the five of us went to the room. “This is just like Partytreff Dorsten”, I announced and one of the girls said that she had heard of the place but never been.

Was this good? Well actually, not as good as you may think. I had always thought that sex with Monica was like sex with two girls anyway. She has this technique of massaging your balls, fingering your anus and blowing you all at the same time. Having Mara around cramped her style. But I’m being oh so fussy here. Anyway ten minutes in and the other bloke in the room asks me if he can do Monica. “Be my guest, I’ve got plenty of pussy to be getting on with”, I said. So then things started going differently to how I thought they would. And then Martina was free so I took the opportunity to snog her and give her lovely tits a fondle. I was pleasantly surprised by the outcome.

Fortunately the other guy climaxed soon after this and then buggered off leaving me in peace. I went back to snogging my own birds and realised that we were all covered in each other’s saliva as well as all sweating quite a bit. Just the thought of this made me feel hornier. I sat on the sofa and had both girls blow me until a came. We then had a good, long chat about everything and I really felt wonderful about chatting in such a relaxed, mellow way as if everything that had just happened was a completely normal and everyday event.

The girls told me that the other guy would have to pay €50 for fucking Monica, but then I became slightly anxious about having to pay for kissing Martina. In the end she did not charge me, but if this ever happens to you, be careful about initiating contact, as rules are rules. By the way, I now recommend Martina but this is based purely on one snog.

Next I went in search of the English soldiers and found them chatting to cunning1. It turned out that one of them had read my reports of Bernd’s on the internet and so it had influenced him in deciding to try the place out. If only I could be paid a commission for everyone who comes as a result of my reports. As for his mate, it was his first time in any fkk. He just didn’t know how lucky he was to have been parachuted into the best club in Europe on his first ever outing!

Once again we had a fantastic chat only this time with too many beers and fags thrown in for good measure. We spoke a lot about the army which I found very interesting, but always the subject came back to mongering. By the way my new soldier friend recommended the “Private Club” in the centre of Birmingham (off junction 6 of the M6) and also the “Gentleman’s Parties” in the east end of London, both of which he has attended. Both can be found on the internet.

My last session was with Brandy, who else? I have known her a little over one year, but already she feels like an old friend. Needless to say, my session with her was fantastic, in the end lasting nearly 1½ hours, although she only charged €100. There’s no need to describe the session as it was fantastic, but the thing that struck me on this occasion was how “into” the sex she was. Much has been written about her, so I am not saying much that is new, but she is in her own league and she just loves sex and that’s it.

Before I left, I had one last chat with the soldiers. One said that he had just had his first ever Bernd’s session (with the black girl, Princess) and it had to be in his top ten ever best shags. Praise indeed.

I left far later than planned, had spent far more money than planned, but felt pretty good.

I don’t think that mankind has yet invented a better way of spending a Thursday afternoon.

Kingwenslas

Routard
09-27-06, 22:06
Excellent report Kingweslas, Bernd's is definitely the best kept secret of Germany, don't spread the info too much around! My favorite part of your report was your group sex experience.

Funny also that ISG members seem to go each time with the same girls. I was with Mara too at Bernd's, and I read your earlier report at FKK Relax, I was been with Iris too.

Routard

Jackyo
09-27-06, 23:51
I noticed an attractive girl with nice boobs who I had never seen before. She was Martina from the Czech Republic. I was very tempted but decided against as I didn’t want to risk a session with someone I had no inside information about.

.. you can throw a dart to pick your provider and you will be satisfied. Have no fear.


In fact I got rather carried away by the BJ and gasped every now and again much to the amusement of the girls hanging around. “Is it really so bad?” they asked in their caring, motherly tones.

I had to laugh at this. The women do carry on a dialogue with you as you are having your couch action. This kind of interaction is pretty cool and contributes to "anything goes" ambiance of this place.


I had always thought that sex with Monica was like sex with two girls anyway.

And yes, sex with Monika is like having sex with two girls! Hungarian women are amazing!

There is also Nicole at Blue Note and then Michelle at Babylon (this goes back a long way). And also, Cynthia at Samya who is easily the best provider I've met recently. She kisses very well, gets really into it and she speaks English too (she used to have an Australian boyfriend).

I know there are more in my past but I'll have to dig into my archive of reports.

Stano
09-28-06, 20:22
I noticed an attractive girl with nice boobs who I had never seen before. She was Martina from the Czech Republic.

Are you sure it was not MARCELLA : Czech girl with nice boobs and short dark hair.

Kingwenslas
09-28-06, 20:53
Hi Stano

Yeah, maybe. I thought it was Marcella when I spoke to her, but asked someone and they said Martina, so I ran with that, but thinking about it, you are right. Cheers. Kingwenslas

Hollandmale
09-29-06, 10:04
I also noticed another girl that I had never seen before. It turned out that she was the girlfriend of one of the guests and she’d only paid €10 to get in.A most interesting observation.

Was this girl also nude and available for other guests?

If she was, it could open up some surprising possibilities ;).

Kingwenslas
09-30-06, 10:25
Hi Hollandmale

Yes she was nude, but no, I didn't see her go off to a room with anyone else. In fact, one of the girls (Mara I think) said that the man had sex with one of the regular girls whilst his girlfriend watched.

Excess
09-30-06, 19:46
i made a point of visiting bernd’s – and sadly it seems that i missed wenceslas by one day.

spent much of the afternoon and evening there and found it to be just as our reporters before described it. totally outrageous and i loved it !!!

i won’t go over old ground and recommend that you read first routard’s excellent post that gives you the layout, rules of operation and as he says tries to give some of the ambience. nothing fully will describe bernd’s better than your own visit.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=506443&postcount=169

next, read through hollandmale’s comprehensive and succinct run down on the ladies. from my observations, it is very accurate.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=504871&postcount=156

i’ll simply provide an update, run through the ladies i spent time with and try to define why bernd’s is indeed so special, and sadly venture a guess on how it probably will be ruined in the coming 6 months or so. not to worry though, bernd’s has survived, i understand, for over 20 years and has and will probably overcome any adverse effects and shine again for another 20 years. i am very optimistic and i’ll return as often as possible.

arriving at the door and ringing, within less than a minute i was greeted by a lovely and very polite lady – totally nude and wearing every stitch of it beautifully who welcomed me in. asked if this was my first visit, i answered “yes.” she then booked me in with the assistance of the manageress, euro 70, giving my name and was given a locker key. she then showed me my locker suggested that i meet here back at the bar for a tour when i was ready.

one financial point that i haven’t seen mentioned in previous reports to note: credit cards are not accepted at bernd’s according to the introductory talk by the lady, only cash. at bernd’s, no cash changes hands until you are finished and ready to leave. all sessions as recorded at the main floor bar on a chit for each girl – your session is noted and the amount with your name/number.

when you are dressed and ready to leave, the manageress will tally up the account and you pay then. one or more of the girls who you have sessioned with are called to say good-bye and with a kiss you are off into the day/night. very, very civilized. just try to ensure that your sessions don’t outrun your cash supply, although i am sure that they have sorted out a fall-back position to cover this real possibility.

the lady was the lovely monica – hungarian but in germany quite some time. we were to get to know each other much better as the day progressed.

after changing and showering, i returned to the bar on the same entry floor. asked for a mineral water and looked around the room – there were about 6 ladies all nude sitting on the u shaped couches with 2 guests. soon monica got up and asked if i would like the tour now. we looked at several of the empty rooms to get an idea of what they looked like, and then went down the stairs to see the bottom floor – here again couches, a bar, also a sauna in back behind the bar and about 4 more girls and another 2 guests only. it was about 3:00 pm.

at that point, monica finished, said that she hoped that i would enjoy my visit, feel free to ask her any questions, and returned upstairs as did i after saying hello to the girls.

bernd’s is a “local” fkk – a bit out of the way in the rural surroundings of cologne. on my visit i was the only “outsider” and foreigner until the mid evening. my german is much worse than it should be. i found it up to the task and rapidly improving as the day went on. my first chat was with an older gentleman at the bar. he told me that he had been coming to bernd’s for 20 years and came almost every week – it was very much a case of the manageress and girls calling out “hello fritz or hello tomas” to arrivals – like dropping into the local pub for most of them. without some german, bernd’s could be a bit of hard work. although very, very manageable since everything and everyone is so relaxed and friendly.

the lineup

taking hollandmale’s list – the girls available in the afternoon with a couple of later arrivals as he mentions were pretty much his line-up. notably missing in action were:

jenny, trixie and marcella and probably some others. holidays and illness were given as the reasons with expectation that they would return in the next few days.

i spent quite some time observing upstairs and downstairs. it was a slow afternoon for guests (from the girl’s point of view). how slow was it? the lovely anna (anja) was sitting on the couches downstairs for about 2 hours in the afternoon – bernd’s visitors will know how slow that is.

mara though was constantly busy; the poor girl’s feet rarely touched the floor all afternoon and evening.

i first sessioned with, who else, monica for a starter after her very nice welcome.

an excellent girl as has been described, soft and intelligent with a super body. great bbj skills with smooth ball handling and light anal strokes along with dfk. this is of course on the sofa in front of the bar even before we moved to the room. the other two guests looked on and off - the other girls checked out the action without fuss before continuing their conversations.

did i mention that i loved bernd’s ?

off we went to one of the (many) empty rooms – and had a very good session of more bbbj – 69 – dfk and then with monica in cowgirl to a very nice finish for a pipe opener. full marks for a very full program, all done with no rush – no question of what was on the menu as all of the above is a virtual standard at bernd’s.

after a bit of recovery moved up and down the stairs for drinks and observing. still pretty quiet – a few threesomes or troikas were happening – mara and brandy treating one tired and very happy guest to an hour it seemed.

next up was tanja – from transdneistra – a very hot little girl with a lovely body. speaks russian and german. again, a chat – wanted to know how to translate a number of russian words and phrases into czech – which i have a reasonable knowledge of since she wanted to surprise a friend who wasn’t there today (probably marcella). we went through translation exercises along with our other exercises on the couch and later in the room. slowly, as we got acquainted and the other lessons finished, tanja started to play with little excess and finally moving as if it was the most natural thing in the world to lengthy bbbj on the couch until i felt it was time to move to a room. at bernd’s from reports it’s quite all right to continue and complete the deed right on the couches. during my visit, i did not see this happen but there were some close calls before they headed off to the rooms.

i should mention that virtually all the girls are happy to provide cim – personally i loved the whole scene at bernd’s with all girls providing top level bbbj’s on the couches and in the room. dkf as well, dfk and 69 all part of the tariff – euro 50 per half hour without extras.

i waited until late evening before going for bbbj and cim preferring the bbbj activity and fs.

with tanja, we went to the room and both us seemed to be ready for a vigorous sexual workout. again bbbj, dfk, 69 and multiple positions. we finished in 15 minutes after the lengthy bbbj on the couches again with a rocking cowgirl. as tanja said with a smile, with us both sweating, that was “shorter but scharf”. just what we both needed. we completed the time with a few more language lessons. a great body on the girl and another bernd’s girl who seems to love to use it. i was really warming to bernd’s and the girls

time to ring up another euro 50 on the bar tabs and off to a shower.

again, very relaxing sitting on the couches, chatting, drinking and moving from the downstairs to the upstairs. in the little room by the main bar, there is the food and 3-4 small tables. very good food – best in an fkk that i’ve had. it was a smoked meat and sauerkraut day, very nice. how german is that? drinks free. the food was replenished several times during the day and evening.

guests had been arriving and the place was filling up – again everyone was german speaking – many were old hands. still a very good atmosphere – friendly and the bbbj’s were starting to come faster and faster on the couches or in a couple of instances while guests were standing at the bar finishing their drinks before heading for the rooms. i went downstairs with the thought that i’d nab anna about much has been written. she was still there sitting on the couch – good. turned to get a drink before sitting down beside her and begin to get acquainted. got the drink ,turned around and damn, another monger was already there. and that was the last time in the evening that i saw anna alone. ;-(

things were now getting very busy – about 4-5 girls who had not seen much activity remained quiet while the rest were in constant action. the rooms were full most of the rest of the evening.

there were 4 guests from the same multinational – 2 german guys, and their colleagues from the us. chatting, i asked if they had been downstairs – the american guy said “yes – and it was wild – i’ve never seen anything like it”. they were all unhappy though and hadn’t had a girl. the two germans were looking for english speakers for the 2 americans and couldn’t find them. the rooms were full. as one german guy mentioned: “this isn’t good for the club – will get a bad reputation about over booking”. at the same time – 2 or 3 guests arrived together at the door – they were turned away with the explanation that there too many guests after a lot of discussion that continued outside and seen on the camera monitor at the bar. they were not happy. but the damage had been done as at bernd’s it is so small that there is really little to do if the rooms are all full. as the club closes at 1:00, time is more limited than many other fkk’s the 4 colleagues stayed about 2 hours and then got dressed and left headed for bochum without trying any of the girls.

i remained and started talking to what i understand is a relatively new girl – agatha (sp). she wouldn’t tell me earlier where she was from for some reason after asking me. this time she said that she was from the czech republic – mother czech and father portuguese. i believe that she is actually from a family that traditionally “travels”. when asked about the city that she said she was from she didn’t seem to know some of the main streets and other points of interest. she was dumbstruck that i was able to converse with her in her native tongue.

she was the only girl who was a bit anxious to move on to the room – probably because she had not been very active from my observations for most of the day. told her that i was ready for a pause, that was enough and we continued chatting. eventually, i was ready and we started to move along to the by now familiar bernd’s warm up on the couches. again, very nice dfk and then on to agatha lying out on the couch and moving into a good bbbj while i fingered her slowly.

there was just enough room for her to recline as a guest and girl had left, otherwise not much space and across the room (3 meters) another guest was enjoying a bbbj from a girl on her knees in front of him.

so off we went to find a room. nothing free on the main floor. excess’ towel was able to remain in place in spite of a (large) object raising the front like a tent pole as we checked the rooms. downstairs again all rooms busy. what to do? went back and agatha asked the manageress if we could use the room upstairs. answer no. so it does seem that there is a room upstairs. the upstairs is for the girls only – for their clothes and showers between sessions as well as a rest area. downstairs we go again.

we walked into the room with the large glass wall looking out onto the downstairs couch area. a couple was on the bed and we sat on the couch to continue the bbbj asking them if they minded. no, they had finished and were recovering. we carried on for a few minutes on the couch; they got up to go and wished us lots of fun. we moved to the now free bed.

this pretty much sums up bernd’s for me – totally outrageous, totally relaxed and sex everywhere in the air and ready to break-out anytime and anywhere.

started off with more bbj of course, mixed with dfk, another good 69 session and then was ready to move in for the kill. several times she wanted to look at her pussy while 69’ing. seems she was interested in seeing her lips spreading as they were and pink. very horny girl. then was fingering her pussy as we went along and it provided another reaction. whatever i was doing was meeting strong approval from agatha. she clearly liked it deep. taking my hand away to change position, she grabbed it and put it back into her pussy and made sure it was deep. more dfk’ing and stroking, agatha using her hips to sync with the fingers. took my fingers out again and wham – she was having none of that, she put my fingers back in to do their work. things were getting very warm in the room.

on with a condom, i moved her without my fingers being attacked again onto her back and started entering her lying on my side and with her legs over me. she wasn’t familiar with this position initiallu but she adapted very quickly with her hands against the wall over her head for increased pushing power and we got up speed rapidly. agatha was going into overdrive.

i decided to finish in doggie – it worked well after all the warm-ups with agatha and me looking out through the glass wall into the couch room – and i guess a few passersby looking in. – it became a bit of a blur.

although we had spent an hour on the couches, looking for a room as well as a lengthy session – the charge was the standard euro, 50 although i was fully prepared for it to be more it wasn’t. perhaps excess was rewarded for a good performance.

much of the rest of the evening was a bit frustrating due to the lack of free rooms and girls of interest. hung in there though.

toward the close, i had been chatting with and eyeing over the bar the lovely german babsi – she does speak some english is a real character, good fun and is a little more mature lady. we chatted with other guests and my german let me down when she said to the guest beside me that it was time to look for her next victim. she explained it to me in english, i said “which” referring to “victim” and she said no, no not “witch” (hexen) - “victim.” i was just about ready to tell her that she had found him – me, and she moved to the little couch next to the bar stretched out like a spider in her web.

i had just started a fresh drink so was going to take it over when another guest entered the room, saw her and they clearly knew each other and immediately sat down with her. second time a drink (water) had cost me pussy. within 10 minutes, babsi was lying across the couch giving another excellent bernd’s bbbj while the guest was happily playing with her pussy. off they went to a room – and that was the last i saw of babsi until i left 2 hours later. she hadn’t much action before that i saw.

after a few more frustrating trips up and down the stairs, i was standing at the upstairs bar.

i had noticed princess during the day – not very busy but as has been reported an absolutely knock-out figure. thought that i would complete the day with her. you guessed it, just as i was about to move over to the little couch by the bar vacated earlier by babsi and her friend, in came agatha and sat down with princess. i listened to their conversation in which agatha wanted to know some french words and expressions and princess was trying to explain them to her. being only 2 meters away, i excused myself to them and joined in the conversation. we now had the interesting situation where i was explaining french grammatical points brought up by princess to agatha in czech and giving her the czech equivalents. bizarre everyone had lots of fun with this. princess said that her mother was from martinique as was she, and her father was from cameroon. very black and stunning lady.

i was invited to sit with them on the small couch but declined as i wanted to get my hands on princess for a finale. after awhile, agatha went off, i moved in and after some more discussion in french, the black panther began her version of the bernd’s bbbj. very, very good in fact it would seem that you can’t get a bad bbbj from any of the girls – at least the ones that i tried were all way above average. no teeth, only a little hand work and when it was useful. bbbj oral heaven.

agatha returned to the room as we were going along with the bbbj and pussy stroking – saw what was happening and without a word or missed step went to sit on the other couches – good girl.

by this time there was a free room off of the locker area.

i had decided that i was going to go for cim this time to finish off a long and interesting day at bernd’s. princess and i moved quickly after more bbbj to 69 and a longish session of tasting her lovely and responsive pussy as she continued the treatment on little excess. i told her that i wanted to finish in her mouth. no problem says princess and so we went to a happy ending….. princess taking it like a trooper.

no rush …. after a minute, she got up stood over the plastic waste paper basket used for condoms and kleenex’s and slowly spit it out using the kleenexes to wipe her mouth and then little excess.

all in all a great finish.

time to leave this wonderful place. got dressed in the locker area – mara also came in as she had some things in a locker next to mine. from the next room, there was a lot of noise from a lady. mara smiled and said that things seemed to be going full speed in there, i answered that the lady didn’t sound unhappy. i have a suspicion that it might have been babsi enjoying her work.

moved to the reception desk, the manageress called out loudly for agatha and tanja. up from downstairs came agatha who explained that tanja had her mouthful at the moment and couldn’t come up to say goodbye. i paid euro 200 for the 4 great sessions and left following a nice dfk kiss form agatha who thanked me and wished me well.

in my opinion and experience, it really doesn’t get a whole lot better than that.

so what’s the upside?

a very friendly and german small fkk where the girls are seemingly and uniformly ready to provide genuine and full service for a reasonable price. very little discussion necessary over services, they are basically all included but check if in doubt or better yet again refer to hollandmale’s excellent run down on the girls for the few exceptions. i was in awe of the quality of the bbbj’s by all the girls. could almost give up fs for a day at bernd’s and let the bbbj’s and cim’s do the talking as it were. bernd’s is a very special and time tested place.

the most striking thing about bernd’s is the atmosphere of no rush, friendly local vibes and girls, no negotiation, and one after another excellent providers. never mind the song “love is in the air” at bernd’s it’s “sex is in the air”, and on the couches and up the walls. the girls are not the star knockouts that you come across in very small numbers in a number of clubs, but something for everyone and the bottom line is that top and caring service beats sheer beauty 98% of the time for me. tremendous value and clearly it demonstrates that with careful selection, training and peer pressure, the girls can catch the spirit of top service and pride themselves in giving it consistently and seemingly willingly. all the bad attitudes, up selling and dramas that can be seen elsewhere seemingly are left at the door at bernd’s. so it can be done.

so what’s the downside?

through the pulling power of isg and its reports, i would give bernd’s 6-9 months maximum before there is a crisis.

don’t get me wrong, in my opinion every isg member should experience bernd’s and its unique atmosphere, i hope that they do and i am afraid that many of them will.

bernd’s cannot stand up to a lot of visitors. it is too small and when the rooms are full for hours on end – it does become much too small. as well, it is a very local and german club, with locals from near and further afield who use it as a well worn and comfortable pub and meeting place. they will become upset and i fear unfriendly if a lot of “outsiders” fill the place up every day and they have to wait for a room and girl, the place is overcrowded, and few of the visitors speak german.

so enjoy and experience bernd’s. it is a one-off, not to everyone’s taste but it is amazing. i hope that i am wrong about the potential looming crisis, but even if i am right with more than 20 years under its belt, bernd’s will weather the storm, get back onto an even keel and the stammgastes will return as happy campers.

i am very thankful for isg and our members who have made me aware of bernd’s and provided me with a memorable and probably unique experience. i will return.

somehow when that ideal isg fkk is built – at least the spirit and intimacy of bernd’s as well as the girl’s superior service ethos needs to be emulated.

as a contrast and control against the visit to bernd’s, i visited the following evening samya. i was very disappointed as it used to be my usual stopping off place. but that is another story and report following more travel.

Kingwenslas
09-30-06, 21:49
Hi Excess,

Yeah, it was a shame that we didn’t meet. I’m always up for meeting other forum members.


You wrote: -

“I remained and started talking to what I understand is a relatively new girl – Agatha (sp). She wouldn’t tell me earlier where she was from for some reason after asking me. This time she said that she was from the Czech Republic – mother Czech and father Portuguese. I believe that she is actually from a family that traditionally “Travels”. When asked about the city that she said she was from she didn’t seem to know some of the main streets and other points of interest. She was dumbstruck that I was able to converse with her in her native tongue.”


I found this part quite interesting – when I sessioned with her back in March she told me that she was half Czech and half Angolan. And she didn’t swallow.

Also, you hinted that Bernd’s is becoming too successful for its own good. We will have to monitor the situation. I couldn’t believe that on my last visit the other five non-German guests all told me that they had read my reports on this website. Do you think we should stop posting information now? It’s a tricky one.

By the way could someone please PM me to say how to up-load a quote, as I can’t seem to do it properly.

Kingwenslas

Excess
09-30-06, 22:03
Kingwenslas,

We will meet one day at Bernd's or elsewhere.

Agatha is in my opinion a full blooded Gypsy - little doubt actually. She does speak Czech with a Czech and not Slovak accent, I believe.

I didn't ask her for CIM so can't say if she swallows or not.

I hear you about the increased traffic. But, as I wrote:

"Don’t get me wrong, in my opinion every ISG member should experience Bernd’s and its unique atmosphere, I hope that they do and I am afraid that many of them will."

Bottom line must keep posting on this and other places. I've learned too much from these threads that has both kept me from some bad experiences and saved me money. I would never have found Bernd's without the thread and reports from you and other members.

It would be churlish not to share. We will have to put our faith in Bernd's and the girls to overcome any crisis. In the meantime, let's enjoy every visit that we can make to this place and many others. Life is truly good.

Iseeu
10-01-06, 01:33
So what’s the downside?

Through the pulling power of ISG and its reports, I would give Bernd’s 6-9 months maximum before there is a crisis.

Don’t get me wrong, in my opinion every ISG member should experience Bernd’s and its unique atmosphere, I hope that they do and I am afraid that many of them will.

Bernd’s cannot stand up to a lot of visitors. It is too small and when the rooms are full for hours on end – it does become much too small. As well, it is a very local and german club, with locals from near and further afield who use it as a well worn and comfortable pub and meeting place. They will become upset and I fear unfriendly if a lot of “outsiders” fill the place up every day and they have to wait for a room and girl, the place is overcrowded, and few of the visitors speak German.

THis is why I was hesitant to post the relative easy way to travel to Bend's by public transportation from FRA. Worried about the great multi-national horny horde descending on this relatively isolated paradise.

Jackyo
10-01-06, 12:29
It would be churlish not to share. We will have to put our faith in Bernd's and the girls to overcome any crisis. In the meantime, let's enjoy every visit that we can make to this place and many others. Life is truly good.

This isn't the Mother of all clubs for no reason.

It has been around the longest and its unique club culture will survive.

I have faith.

I would be more content if its sister club, Sankt Augustine-Meindorf, were still around.

If you think Bernds is loose, Sankt Augustine-Meindorf was even looser.

Aside from one of the current Bernds Thekenfrauen (I don't know her name but she is the petite one with the nice firm calves), the only other member of the current Bernds cast who was at SAM is Katja.

SAM lives on through her.

Toscana
10-10-06, 09:47
ok, just transferred over from the other fkks thread, because the discussion there was moving more towards bernd’s. that’s better.

perhaps i should qualify my comments.

i am an irregular visitor to bernd’s, and i have not reported on it. the danger of its being overrun is real.

my opinion is that the price is high. they get away with it, so it is obviously right. good business judgement. but i compare it with world or oase (lower) with their magnificent facilities, especially in the summer, or with artemis (same price), in fact with almost anywhere else, and for me the price is high. the place is small, even claustrophobic, the carpets old and worn in places, the changing areas poky, ditto the sauna, they call it atmosphere. i was served old coffee out of a thermos flask, and at the upstairs bar i three times (repeat: three) walked away having received no service because the dame had better things to do like chatting to another guest. i know, i know, toscana doesn’t know how to relax and take things slowly in this countryside idyll. to their credit on two occasions a girl saw what happened and brought a drink over to where i was sitting. ok, that was exceptional, and wouldn’t generally happen. however, i was there for eight hours, and if you deduct four hours for four sessions with couch action and showers etc. from that, i still have four hours to while away. i was bored silly to be honest, despite talking to other guests a while. nowhere to go. significantly perhaps, i saw two american first-timers enter mid-afternoon, and then never saw them again. they and several others pissed off quite quickly. imho not much for my eur 70.

(well i wasn‘t quite bored silly, because last friday i was diverted by one older guest, whose cock, when erect, was the longest i have ever seen. ever. porn movies, real life, ever. i won’t describe it in any great detail, because you may get the wrong impression, but i was fascinated, i tell you. real, live, right in front of my eyes on the sofa next to me, scraping at the low ceiling…. you could almost see the girls rolling their eyes at each other when he walked in, as if to say “your turn today”!)

having bitched on about that too long (the club, not the cock), i must state that i did not have a mediocre time. all i was saying was that i thought the selection on that friday (their busiest day) was mediocre. there were some absences, notably brandy. to answer everhard’s question i would say there was only one eight there (princess). most are in the range 5-7. three or four were below 5. in many cases, the face was fine, but the body overweight, or the body was great, but the face like a vw bus. just my opinion, but if i am paying i want looks better than in my private sphere, as well as service, and i was struggling a little.

when i did go to the room, i had a great time. service just wonderful, far from mediocre. it’s always like that, and the locals come back week after week. the attitude of most of the girls is exemplary. they also know: one complaint, and they are out. punto. i wish they had that discipline at other clubs.

i’ll be honest: i go to bernd’s when i want a good snog. on friday, three of the girls i went with (anna, princess and jenny) kissed like there was no tomorrow and like i was johnny depp, ho-ho! guess i’ll be returning soon to receive my spanking too, as promised by wan king. shudder, shudder, the anticipation is just killing me.

Ortos
10-10-06, 12:05
Toscana, Thanks for your long and articulate essay. I am a frequent visitor to Frankfurt clubs and very occassional to NWR clubs, but lately I am planning my return journey to FKKs --after a 6 month lay-off-- so I have been giving serious consideration to driving up from Frankfurt to try Bernd's.

However, I am a bit concerned that I might make the trip and find exactly what you Toscana are warning about: A selection of girls that is not very good looking when compared to other mainstream FKKs.

So can anybody else weigh in here about the looks of these Bernd's girls? I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder, etc., do other of you guys who visit Bernd's agree that the looks of the girls is not so high?

Just wondering for other voices here, not that I at all distrust or disrespect such a stalwart reporter as Toscana. Far from it really....

Thanks,

Ortos

Jackyo
10-10-06, 12:13
Yes, you will not find any 10s here.

If you are motivated strictly by the women's Optik, keep away.

If you are looking for service-oriented exhibitionistic women who work on the tease factor, know how to please men, take their time, like to build relationships and focus on interactions, then do go and visit.

Take my word for it, you will be satisfied.

If you are looking for a 10 who does not put her heart and soul into her work, look elsewhere.

I have to admit that when I first visited this place I couldn't understand the appeal but over time have come to realize that the consistency and quality of service at this place plus the loose athmosphere isn't duplicated anywhere.

Its long departed sister club, Sankt Augustine Meindorf, was even better though.

(Actually I am glad that there are negative reports lately about this place, he he... this should keep the traffic down and make it easier to book the women here who are Dauerbelegt. This plays right into the hands of those who us who are fans. :-) )

Excess
10-10-06, 14:23
For what it is worth - the Bernd's line-up as I saw it.

Out of 12-14 girls using my own (biased) measure.

4 girls in the 7-8 class

5 girls in the 6 class

3-4 girls in the 5 class. ( 2, shall we say in the much more mature class)

Service levels - 9-10 which is really along with the ambience makes the place for me.

Off topic - for Ortos. I owe a report on Cyprus and in particular your question on Imparator plus 4 other locations. I have done the research and hopefully can get a lengthy report written sometime. Short answer on Imparator - for the first time in my life, I actually fled from a place - a disaster. Later.

Ortos
10-10-06, 19:58
Jackyo and Excess:

Thanks, mates, for responding so quickly and specifically to my question about the looks of the Bernd's line-up.

As anybody even moderately experienced in FKKing will himself conclude: raw hot looks is not the only quality we look for. And both of you make this point.

I think Jackyo is right: got go check it out and be seduced by the raw sexappeal rather than just plain good looks. The attitude with which certain acts that happen during a good session are far more important, for me, than just straight looks of the session partner. And this seems to be a main part of the Bernd's experience.

So thanks for weighing in here...

Rest assured when I go I shall report my experiences on this thread...

Ortos

Toscana
10-11-06, 08:43
I just noticed that there are several complaints about the line-up last Friday on the Roemerforum. It's clearly been like this for several days now, and people are getting a bit fed up. Some guys are now deserting Bernd's for Dierdorf, which is only 40kms down the A3.

Ortos: you are right, you've got to try it. Even if you only get a couple of numbers, and zip off up to Sudbad or down to Dierdorf, it'll still make a decent day.

Jackyo
10-11-06, 11:27
I just noticed that there are several complaints about the line-up last Friday on the Roemerforum. It's clearly been like this for several days now, and people are getting a bit fed up. Some guys are now deserting Bernd's for Dierdorf, which is only 40kms down the A3.

Ortos: you are right, you've got to try it. Even if you only get a couple of numbers, and zip off up to Sudbad or down to Dierdorf, it'll still make a decent day.

The following excerpts are taken from the R Forum.


Fazit: Die Damenbesetzung im Hof ist derzeit nicht das, was sie schon mal war. In den Räumlichkeiten herrschte zu manchen Zeiten gähnende Leere, und die wenigen anwesenden CDLs wurden teilweise dauergebucht. Ich hatte zwar zwei befriedigende Nummern, aber ich hoffe doch sehr, dass die Verhältnisse in Nr. 28 sich wieder bessern...

Viele Grüße
Poppulus Romanus

The complaint was that there weren't enough women there. Poppulus Romanus even makes a list in his report of who was away or on vacation.


Ich selbst bin das letzte Mal vergangenen Freitag vor Ort gewesen (Bericht folgt morgen); es war tatsächlich relativ ruhig, aber das kommt schonmal vor -zumal sich das "ruhig" auf die Anzahl der dreibeinigen Mitstreiter bezieht und nicht die quantitative Anwesenheit der Mädels!

Aber das ist mal wieder typisch deutsch! Wenn das Essen lecker und reichhaltig, der Wein wohl temperiert sowie der Kellner nett und zuvorkommend sind, dann wird gemäkelt, dass die Farbe der Tischdecke nicht zu der des Klopapiers passt oder der Gast am Nebentisch unrasiert ist!

Wenn man das Negative sucht, dann muss man nur lange genug suchen, um es zu finden!

Samson

Samson says that it was the number of customers at the club last Friday which was reponsible for the relative inactivity and not the number of women. And then he goes into a discussion of how typically German it is to complain (this is very true, by the way - they are the toughest critics of their own clubs). If one looks for something negative to say, one does not have to look very hard to find it, he says.


Samson hat un eingeschränkt recht, so ist die deutsche Mentalität. Wer kein Problem hat, taugt nicht für diese Welt. Also wird so lange gesucht, bis eines gefunden ist. Ich freue mich jedenfalls auch mal über einen ruhigeren Tag im Hof und fahre dafür Meilenweit. Auch wenn mal einige Mädels weniger da sind, einen Flop habe ich dort noch nicht erlebt. Was hilft es mir, wenn 40 oder 50 Gretels anwesend sind, aber bei jeder 2. die Gefahr eines Flops besteht.

Witzbold jumps in and says that yes, it certainly is the German mentality to be so critical. He then says that he has never had a bad experience here een when there haven't been very many women present and that it makes no sense to visit a club where there are 40 or 60 women but you run the risk of having a bad experience with every other woman.

Polar
10-11-06, 19:47
I could not give you a response on your question yesterday but I can't resist writing a comment. The reason I didn't do it yesterday is that I spent the day at Bernds...

Most about looks and services is already said by Excess and Jackyo. Looks are so personal, but I can only agree that you see more 10s at other clubs. The difference with Bernds is that you can be sure to get service at the level 9-10 every time.

Tuesday was a very slow day at the club. It was explained by a school holliday this week in Germany. A slow day gives more time with the girls and no queing for a room, so from my perspective it was a great day.

Whatever you do, go and visit the club. Toscana is perfectly right about the look of the club itself and the service you don't get with the wrong woman behind the bar. I'm there for the service I get in the room, and that one is unbeatable.

Excess
10-11-06, 21:05
Not to go over old ground, but I did see a very marked difference in the bar staff before a shift change - about 6-7 pm ? upstairs. Before that time the lady was very nice. The lady after till close was quite shrill and abrupt with both girls and guests. Couch and room service throughout was superb.

Ortos
10-11-06, 21:08
Thanks, Polar, for your great comments. I know now was ist dort loss! So maybe we should dampen the commentary on this question, lest this place get over run???

Thanks to all who responded...

Fly Bob
10-13-06, 16:57
Went there yesterday. I arrived about 13:30 and was about the 5th person there. I would guess about 8 girls were already there. People came and went all day and it got really busy around 17:00. There were almost always some girls waiting.

I went with two girls. Tina is a German born Turkish girl; medium height, long dark hair with brown streaks, great figure. Really a nice girl with an excellent figure, oh did I already say that. Good service but was over too quickly.

Next up was Monica from Hungary; medium hieght, black wavy hair, great curves. She was the one that met me at the door and I was suitably impressed with her smile and attitude. She was all about service in the room and gradually relaxed. I have never known a girl to cum so many times. She was wonderful. Later in the evening went a second time and just improved on the first session. She is a very nice girl with fantastic service.

The evening bar lady lived up to her fame. The upstairs stayed well cleared out for most of the evening. I didn't have any problems with her, but noticed the room stayed empty. The girls didn't stick around and this made the downstairs crowded.

Jackyo
10-13-06, 17:07
Next up was Monica from Hungary; medium hieght, black wavy hair, great curves. She was the one that met me at the door and I was suitably impressed with her smile and attitude. She was all about service in the room and gradually relaxed. I have never known a girl to cum so many times. She was wonderful. Later in the evening went a second time and just improved on the first session. She is a very nice girl with fantastic service.
... met your approval.

I could do her over and over again - she gets better the more time you spend with her.

Hollandmale
10-14-06, 09:08
Am Donnerstag waren die folgenden Damen im Hof:

Jenny, Leyla, Mara, Kim (neu, ExFreude, dunkelhaarig), Rita, Monika, Celina, Tatjana, Agatha, Michelle, Lara (neu, ExFreude, blond), Anna, Katja, Brandy, Tanja, eine Farbige und 1-2 weitere.

Marcella ist wegen Schmerzen gegen 15 Uhr leider wieder gegangen.
Mit den ersten 4 Mädels war ich auf dem Zimmer, jeweils top.Complaints about a lack of girls in Schieferhof might be a bit premature.

According to the RF-report, last Thursday there were 18 girls attending.
Among them 2 new girls from Freude-Bochum; Kim had a favourable report.
The Farbige (coloured) girl is probably Princess.

Actually there were 19, but Marcella left, feeling ill.
I guess it's business as usual in Schieferhof ;).

Hollandmale
10-18-06, 09:48
Last monday October 16, following 16 girls were reported present:

Rita, Brandy, Celine, Agatha, Jamila, Sandra, Princess, Monica, Mara, Mina, Anna, Jessy, Leila and another 3 not mentioned by name. Jamila is a new tall attractive blonde Russian girl with goods service.

Fairly quiet with punters, good availability and selection of girls :).

Westsider
10-28-06, 20:49
The classic small club with a family atmosphere. This was my first club 10 years ago, and like any club, has had its ebb and flow. But with the remodelling it is better than ever. The the 16-18 girls cover a wide range characteristics and all have excellent attitudes and service. It is impossible to make a bad decision I think. Especially outstanding were Leila from Turkey and Janie from Greece. The 70 euro entrance fee is higher and the food not so great, but is more than made up with extra services at reduced or no charge. The couch action is still very hot (10-15min) and without the room clock starting. CIM is standard. Overall, the german patrons made me feel very welcome as well. So, the classic is better than ever IMO.

Polar
10-31-06, 23:28
A quick report from todays Halloween party at Bernds.

I had planned this trip long before I knew there was a party, else I would not have been here. Now it was too late. I'm far from an expert, but after some 7 visits this year I have at least started to learn more about how this club works.

Very crowded 13.15 is not normal. There was a real queue of men waiting to pay the entrance fee. Everywhere decoration with Halloween touch. And worst of all, the girls wear a lot of clothing. Some people like desous days, days with "sexy lingery", I don't. And this was much worse.

Bernds is known for it's couch action. I belive it was sligtly more of that kind today than usual. Katja looked to be happy taking care of one guy one after the other in the sofa downstairs. It's fun to look at, but personally I can't find the amusement in a 5 minutes cow-girl in the sofa. For 50 Euro.

The comments from the girls was not so positive about the party. "crowded and less business than usual". And maybe they were right. There were never the need to wait for a room, and most visitors seemed to just be sitting and watching. The food was more rich than usual, but I don't really go there for the food...

The lineup was pretty normal. Jessy and Anna were both missing and that was a disapointment. Agatha was not there either. I saw one new face. Ina. < 20 and very very very slim. Around 160 cm tall and blond hair down to her shoulders. She looks ver nice and with a big smile most of the time and with great emphasis what I could see of ther couch action. She was however back again less than 20 minutes later, so I need to see more before I give it a try.

I started with one hour session with Mara. More or less as usual. That girl fit me a little bit too good, have to be careful. Perfect as always.

I felt I had to do some new aquaintances so next I invited Tanja to the sofa. Slim 160 cm with short black hair. Unfortunately she only speaks Russian (which I don't know) and German (that I know a little). Enough to have fun 30 minutes in the room at least. I have to admit that her DFK is very good. And her BBBJ is of the same caliber. That is something I will repeat.

Good time in the room, besides the lack of extensive small talk of course. She enjoyed DATY and then we did some reversed cow-girl and mish. She claimed that she came during our activity. I can't tell if it was fake or not, but it was a good session. Myself I kept my orgasm for the sessions to come, else there won't be any so much more activity.

Something that is pretty obvious every time, is how much better the sessions are when you start to know the girls better. It's always tricky to compare one 30-minutes for the first time with someone you have spent say 20 times 30 minutes with. So, I ended the day with another hour with Mara. After the session we stayed in the bed talking for at least 20 minutes until the room was needed by someone else. That girl is more than adictive.

To conclude. It ended up to be a good day, but I will if possible stay away from party day's in the future. You get so much more out of the visit during an ordinary day.

Hollandmale
11-07-06, 08:32
Last Tuesday I also visited the Halloween Party, along with 7 friends from the local Dutch forum. A crowded party, but a sufficient number of 20 girls attending: Babsi, Michelle, Mara, Mina, Leyla, Rita, Svenja, Katja, Brandy, Tanja, Jenny, Celine, Monica, Princess, Marcella, Sandy, Tatjana, Ina, Helga and masseuse Tanja. I didn't mind the dressing up; many girls went nude as the evening progressed. I did 2 afternoon sessions, with Michelle and Jenny. I mentioned them in an earlier report, as for stats and services. Both sessions were very nice, as they were a few months ago. By the way, Michelle was dressed in a very sexy short and tight police uniform. That's what got me arrested ;).

At night I met Helga, normally a Thekefrau (bartender) from Mondays till Thursdays. But on Fridays (and parties) she works as a regular club girl. My session with Helga was excellent; we started on the couch in the basement with the traditional FK-BBBJ, moved to the Spielwiese (open playroom) with some FK-DATY-IC-BBBJ while waiting for a room. In the room we pretty much repeated everything in a different order, finishing off with a superbe CIM. A full 1 hour session, so 2 Programme or E 100,-. Helga is German, black hair, 42, 5.7/1.70, size-38/40, B/C-breasts, FK-DATY-IC-BBBJ-CIM. She's very kind and sweet, not at all pressed for time, even with a crowded party going on.

Helga gets highly recommended, especially for MILF-lovers. I will certainly do another session with her again, if attending on Fridays :).

Iseeu
11-08-06, 03:03
celebrating my 500th isg post and what better way than with a report on the once and still greatest fkk club in the world.

just back in my hotel from a day at the hof. i'm staying in the holiday inn express troisdorf. not the most luxurious, but the price is reasonable, breakfast is free, there's a mcdonald's in the parking lot, high speed internet in the rooms, and most importantly it's only a 10-12 minute drive from the hof. take rte. 59 2 exits south to 560 and then straight on to 8. (and 30 minutes to beverly for tomorrow night).

this was my 3rd visit in as many months and each visit has been different but great. today's lineup listed alphabetically (that's how i managed to remember them): anna, agatha, babsi, diana (tonight was her first night), inna, jamilla, jenny, katja, leila, mara, marcella, michelle, monica, princess, rita, sabrina, sandy, and tatjana. jessy has stopped working at the club after a dispute with the boss, but she is trying to get back in.

i never counted more than 15 men at any given time, and some of the girls were complaining of inactivity. of course, katja, mara, monica and marcella were almost always busy and not to be seen in the lounges.

i knew that jessy, who was the star of one of my previous visits, would not be there, which was disappointing, but at bernd's you can almost never go wrong. pick the type that you want, start up a conversation or just sit down next to your target and in minutes, she'll be hanging over you and hoovering.

my picks for the day:
* monica- a great smile and sweet girl who gives and unbelievable bj. a classy lady.
* princess - what a body if you like enhanced hardware! a great fun girl, who speaks a decent english. a great kisser. we spent almost an hour on the couch dueling tongues, before going to a room, which i extended automatically to an hour. deep swallowed the family jewels and wand, over and over again. my star for the day. we ended spending most of the day intertwined on the couches
* katja - she is undoubtedly the raunchy star of the raunchiest fkk. she's been at it 11 years, but still looks great, and still loves the sex. beautiful natural breasts, sweet-tasting pussy, a great kisser, good english and great f*ck. we get in the room, she stretches out on the bed, points to her pussy and says "eat".
* marcella- finally managed to get her unbooked sitting on the couch. really sweet person and great great bj.

much has been written here about the couch action which is in your face and amazing everytime you see it. but it's not just that. it's the original fkk, and it maintains the original fkk concept to the "t". with a service ethic focusing on the little things that's unmatched (certainly not at the big clubs)- such as the naked girl who runs to meet you at the door and takes you to your locker, the girls(not the bartender) who upon noticing that your drink is empty will run to get a refill, the unrushed conversation giving the feeling that the woman is actually interested in you and not just your euro, the girls being called and rushing from wherever they are in the house, to walk you to the door and kiss you goodbye.

it's the whole atmosphere, the friendliness, the people having fun, especially the women, the "genau" (laid back). as katja told me, she feels like it's her family. for a sexworker to say that uncynically, speaks volumes. i admire professionalism, and maintaining in exact detail a concept developed 20 years ago, shows a management that has pride in its product and is unwilling to compromise on its quality, even if it's difficult and inconvenient to maintain and wouldn't directly adversely effect the business turnover.

some scenes that stick out:
1) watching katja find the next unsuspecting victim, is the best way to while away the time between sessions. at 1 point, she was riding cowgirl on a guy on the downstairs couch, then took him to a room next to the downstairs bar, but left the door open, so the entire room was listening to their sound effects (sounded like a room of barnyard animals- really!) which drowned out the really loud music. when they came out, everyone downstairs gave them a round of applause and katja took a bow.
2) i'm sitting on the couch intertwined with princess, with leila's breast in my hand, while across the room marcella is hoovering a guy with her spread-open behind in my face.
3) i'm sitting on an upstairs couch with leila, priness, diana, inna, sandi and rita. across the way are jamilla, agatha and anna. i am the only male species in site in a room of 9 naked women all willing to have sex with me at any moment. it's moments like this when i find religion and thank the fkk gods.
4) i'm still intertwined with princess. michele (the mentor) appears with diana who is introduced to the room. she's 22 from cologne. blonde hair, slim build, 32b. the receptionist behind the bar writes her name down and then notices on her list that diana follows princess and yells "princess diana". so i introduce myself to diana as charles, eliciting chuckles from the assembled. diana, sat more or less in the same spot on the upstairs couch all night. at one point i thought to approach her and her fkk cherry, but i wasn't sure of the protocol - was she open for approaches? later, monica enters the lounge, scouts the room, spots diana sitting alone, and then quietly asks her if she would like to join her in a room with a customer. she could have asked one of the veterans, one of her friends. did i say that monica is a class act?

the club is a class act, and i'm dying to get the u.s. franchise.

Cunning 1
11-08-06, 07:21
Isseu,

Nice report and reminds me of the great time I had at Bernds a couple of months ago. I threatened to carry Jenny back to Australia. I should have; could have taken up the Ozzy franchise to Bernds.

Still the best mongering place I've been to anywhere.

C1

Excess
11-08-06, 08:54
Congrats Iseeu on 500 + posts with information, a few dramas, and much enjoyment.

Excellent post on Bernd's and from the many solid points raised in your post, I think this one says it all: " The club is a class act.. "

Thanks and looking out for many more from you.

May your condom be always full.

Viscount
11-08-06, 13:53
Hi,

I am hoping to visit Bernd,s next week when in Koln,can someone advise me please, if any day has the lingerie day, or don't they do this here, because its something I don't like, I believe an FKK should be just that.

Thanks in advance,

Viscount.

Jackyo
11-08-06, 19:18
Hi,

I am hoping to visit Bernd,s next week when in Koln,can someone advise me please, if any day has the lingerie day, or don't they do this here, because its something I don't like, I believe an FKK should be just that.

Thanks in advance,

Viscount.
The only time the women wear any clothing is when they have special party themes.

You maybe already know this but they are closed on weekends, by the way.

Viscount
11-09-06, 14:34
Many thanks for the reply.

I hope to visit next Wednesday or Thursday.

Best regards,

Viscount

Hollandmale
11-17-06, 08:24
Jessy has stopped working at the club after a dispute with the boss, but she is trying to get back in.A friend of mine was at Bernds on Thursday November 9th. Jessy was attending as usual, so apparently her break was only short :).

Iseeu
11-18-06, 18:28
A friend of mine was at Bernds on Thursday November 9th. Jessy was attending as usual, so apparently her break was only short :).
... and we've made a date for this coming Weds. Nov. 22nd.

Dedalus
11-18-06, 20:08
... and we've made a date for this coming Weds. Nov. 22nd.

Hey Man,

You have certainly got me thinking, and pining for the old days when Babylon delivered service like what you describe. It just may be time for me to finally make that Schieferhof run. Will this coming Wednesday be a daytime visit for you?

Cheers,

Dedalus

Euro100
11-20-06, 03:52
Hi,

I was at the 'hof on Thursday. Got there at 1:30 pm. (No problem wiht GPS in my rental car.) There were about 15 girls in attendance. I was met at the door by the customary naked lady. To my disappointment, she was about a factor 2 (I am not kidding!) too heavy for my taste. But oh well; to each his own. She was very friendly, and later she and another girl (also a bit too heavy to be inside my target group) gave some exquisite BJ service to a guy on the upstairs couch.

For my first round I picked Diana. For all of you who think that German girls cannot give GFE: Diana is living proof that this theory is wrong. She was great! One of my top 10 all time. (as the regular reader of my posts knows, there are about 50 girls in that category already ;), but still ...)

Then I got really tired, having crossed the Atlantic the night before. This is the biggest drawback of Bernd's: no quiet room to take a snooze. I went to the kino and threw myself on the couch. (It was not easy to fall asleep, though, because Katja was in there sending SMS on her cell phone. And she was lying with her money-maker right in front of my face, wiggling her legs suggestively.) Exhaustion won, and I fell asleep. It lasted only 10 minutes, and then one of the girls woke me up on her way to the room next to the kino. I guess she thought she was funny :(.

For my seond pop I went with Agata. She looks like she could be from India, but has Portuguese and Czech parents. OUtstanding, even better than Diana!

All in all a very good experience for my first time at the Schieferhof 28. the food was pretty decent. The 70 euro entrance included alcoholic beverages. (Since I was driving, I was not able to test if there was an unlimited supply of booze included.) The girls are very friendly, offer to fetch you your drinks, but do not ever animate. Depending on who the customers are this means that the atmosphere can be very relaxed or dead. There were some times when the upstairs sofa held about 5 girls and 5 guys, and not a single words was said; everybody sat there in awkward silence.

On the German boards some newcomers reported that they did not get any action all day long at the 'hof. Girls claimed there were long waiting lists for their services. I did not observe this, but I did see that the girls avoided some customers. For at least one I could smell the reason. COme on, dude, take a friggin' shower!

I seem to be albe to enjoy myself wherever I go. And I would come back, if I was in the area. But I would not make a special trip. Compared to FKKW, I still think that I prefer World.

I like the special touch of the girls being called to the entrance when a guest leaves. Diana and Agata both came running to me and gave me deep good-bye DFKs. I had to congratulate myself to my excellent taste in women :).

euro

Jackyo
11-20-06, 04:03
Euro100,

The difference between this club and any other club is this: you can throw a dart to make your selection of who to spend time with at this club and you cannot go wrong.

At a large club like World, you never know what you are going to get.

Just recently there were posts on the RF about rip off sessions at World.

One dude was charged an extra 50 Euros for fingering. He was new there and didn't know that this wasn't customary. Only after the fact was he made aware that he had been ripped off.

At Bernds you needn't have this worry. I'd much rather have the sure thing.

One of the highest praises anyone can give to a girl wherever it is she works is to say she is at "Hof standard". No one ever writes to say her service was at the "World standard".

Euro100
11-20-06, 14:37
Yes, I understand your point of the Hof being a very tighly controlled environment, a sure thing when it comes to the money aspect. On the other hand to me this is not that much of a bonus, because I like the challenge of the hunt. Shooting fish in a barrel was never my thing.

Since you mention the RF, let me also point out that recently there were several reports on how newbies couldn't get any action all day at the Hof. So it is not like all comers are treated like kings there.

If nobody ever talked about FKKW-standard, then let me be the first one. The service I have gotten there from Olga, Irina, Jana, Andrea, non-Helga, Jasmine, Bani, and many others is unsurpassed in Germany.

But, look, in the end the Hof is a great club. As is FKKW. As is Oase. As is the Palace. As is ColA. As was Atlantis. And many more. Germany is a monger's paradise. (In my mind only Brazil is better.) So to me it is kind of pointless to try to discuss which is the better or best club. Everybody has their own preferences.

euro

Meindorfer
11-20-06, 15:29
I like the challenge of the hunt. Shooting fish in a barrel was never my thing."Hunt" ? Prostitutes ?

I believe every visit in any Club is like "Shooting fish in a barrel" !

Meindorfer

Jackyo
11-20-06, 16:30
Yes, I understand your point of the Hof being a very tighly controlled environment, a sure thing when it comes to the money aspect. On the other hand to me this is not that much of a bonus, because I like the challenge of the hunt. Shooting fish in a barrel was never my thing.

Since you mention the RF, let me also point out that recently there were several reports on how newbies couldn't get any action all day at the Hof. So it is not like all comers are treated like kings there.

If nobody ever talked about FKKW-standard, then let me be the first one. The service I have gotten there from Olga, Irina, Jana, Andrea, non-Helga, Jasmine, Bani, and many others is unsurpassed in Germany.

But, look, in the end the Hof is a great club. As is FKKW. As is Oase. As is the Palace. As is ColA. As was Atlantis. And many more. Germany is a monger's paradise. (In my mind only Brazil is better.) So to me it is kind of pointless to try to discuss which is the better or best club. Everybody has their own preferences.

euro
... and yes, in the end, each one has to determine for himself what they most value.

Yes, I have read recent reports from newbies at the Hof complaining they aren't getting serviced as they should be. It certainly isn't perfect.

I have done World numerous times since its opened and I can say I've had good experiences but also bad ones there. In all it has been an average club for me service-wise. If you are looking at facilities only, it clearly is the very best there is in Gemany.

I have not, however, had excellent experiences; ones which have one wanting to book her over and over again for extended sessions.

These I have only had in the smaller NRW clubs which are less rushed and there is more of a chance for more interaction before, during and after the session. And with their stable teams, one can come back a year later, find more or less the same women and reconnect: we converse, she remembers me, remembers conversations we have had, things we have done together.

I've not connected to the women at World in the same way. I attribute this to the selection at World being too big and unstable. Its hard to get the lay of the land if one isn't there more than a couple of times a year. This increases the risk of landing a bad session and with the service guarantee there being not that clear, I approach each visit to World with caution.

One complaint about a girl at the Hof and she is out of there.

So yes, do get the word out on those girls there who are at FKKW standard. They deserve our business and I will look for them the next time I go.

But I will go only if I find myself in Frankfurt.

Iseeu
11-21-06, 00:55
I was met at the door by the customary naked lady. To my disappointment, she was about a factor 2 (I am not kidding!) too heavy for my taste. But oh well; to each his own. She was very friendly, and later she and another girl (also a bit too heavy to be inside my target group) gave some exquisite BJ service to a guy on the upstairs couch.

Has to be Michele. She's been there forever, and has a loyal stable of repeat customer and the reason is obviously not her looks, but those amazing BJ's and service attitude.


For my first round I picked Diana. For all of you who think that German girls cannot give GFE: Diana is living proof that this theory is wrong. She was great! One of my top 10 all time. (as the regular reader of my posts knows, there are about 50 girls in that category already ;), but still ...)

Great to know. I was there on her intiation night and she was understandably very shy, but smart and sweet. I was afraid to pop her FKK cherry. Now, I'll put her on my list for Weds.


I went to the kino and threw myself on the couch. (It was not easy to fall asleep, though, because Katja was in there sending SMS on her cell phone. And she was lying with her money-maker right in front of my face, wiggling her legs suggestively.)

And what a money maker it is. Weren't you even tempted? You missed out on one of the all time great SP's in the business. She's been at it for 12 years and still loves it because she really does like the sex. Hard to believe,when you calculate how many men she's been with in her career.



Since you mention the RF, let me also point out that recently there were several reports on how newbies couldn't get any action all day at the Hof. So it is not like all comers are treated like kings there.


How is that possible? All you have to do is pat the couch next to you, go sit next to a naked available woman, start fondling a girl at the bar, or open your towel and and give a come hither smile.
Then again if newbies are discouraged they won't come back and we keep the mongering hordes to a manageable number.

Jackyo
11-21-06, 02:29
Then again if newbies are discouraged they won't come back and we keep the mongering hordes to a manageable number.
.. gemischte Gefuehle (or mixed feelings) about this.

On one hand, I really haven't seen service levels close to those at this club anywhere in Germany.

On the other hand, I don't like it to be crowded with newbies who would spoil the Ambiente.

I have to admit that at one point in time I just didn't get it. There are better looking women at other clubs. And the facilities are quite basic.

But the consistency of service and the longevity of this club is proof that what it has to offer is really unique and not duplicable.

Put it one other way, if James Bond were to visit a club, he wouldn't visit this club but would visit World because of the facilities. He would better fit into that kind of an environment rather than this one which is more like a Familienbetrieb.

Euro100
11-21-06, 04:08
And what a money maker it is. Weren't you even tempted? You missed out on one of the all time great SP's in the business. She's been at it for 12 years and still loves it because she really does like the sex. Hard to believe,when you calculate how many men she's been with in her career.
Oh, absolutely, I was tempted. But what can you do? I had to get up at 6 am the day before, work all day, catch the evening flight from the US to Europe, was not able to sleep in the plane, the hopped into the rental car, had to take care of some very important non-mongering business, then drove to the Hof. I just ran out of gas and had to go to sleep for a few minutes after my first session. My bad! Next time I'll give Katja a try.

By the way, when I woke up I could have still had a session with Katja. She was available. But I picked Agata, because I found her physically more attractive. This is not to knock Katja, it's just my preference. I did not have my laptop with me and was not able to recall from memory who were the highest-rated girls. By the way, I was extremely happy with both of my picks, in physical appearance as well as quality of service, and would gladly repeat.


Then again if newbies are discouraged they won't come back and we keep the mongering hordes to a manageable number.

Seeing how constrained the space is, if they let more than say 30 guys in, it becomes unmanagable. If they have less than 10 males come in, the girls clearly are not getting enough work. It is a really delicate balance. The day I was there it was definitely a buyer's market, and I appreciated this a lot. There were only about 5 girls in the entire place that I found to be attractive to very attractive, and I was glad that I had sufficient opportunity to sample them.

Euro100
11-21-06, 04:09
"Hunt" ? Prostitutes ?

I believe every visit in any Club is like "Shooting fish in a barrel" !


Oh well, I guess my attempt at finely honed irony did not work in this case ;)

Euro100
11-21-06, 04:13
Put it one other way, if James Bond were to visit a club, he wouldn't visit this club but would visit World because of the facilities. He would better fit into that kind of an environment rather than this one which is more like a Familienbetrieb.

Well, in that case I suppose I'll have my Martini shaken, not stirred.

euro100 (who has to lose 91 in order to obtain double-o rating)

Iseeu
11-21-06, 12:02
By the way, when I woke up I could have still had a session with Katja. She was available. But I picked Agata, because I found her physically more attractive. This is not to knock Katja, it's just my preference. I did not have my laptop with me and was not able to recall from memory who were the highest-rated girls. By the way, I was extremely happy with both of my picks, in physical appearance as well as quality of service, and would gladly repeat.



There were only about 5 girls in the entire place that I found to be attractive to very attractive, and I was glad that I had sufficient opportunity to sample them.

...is one of the most attractive there and she was on my ToDo list last time, but ran out of time. Love that exotic look and fabulously proportioned body.
And Diana is also a looker and also on that list. So much sex out there and so little time. We seem to have very similar tastes.
But unlike some of the other clubs, knowing that service level at Bernd's is universally good and almost guaranteed, I feel more free to take chances and go with a woman who would not usually be in my physical focus group just for the diversity and thrill of trying something new. Mara, with her tomboyish looks is a great example, is a Bernd's star, and gives a great GFE session.

CBGBConnisur
11-22-06, 02:49
Whatever happened to the St. Augustine club?

Jackyo
11-22-06, 06:17
Whatever happened to the St. Augustine club?
.. closed something like five years ago.

The building was converted into a Kindergarten, believe it or not.

Some of the SAM crew still works at Bernds: the petite Thekenfrau with the muscular calves who used to also work on the floor and of course, Katja.

Katja is practically the only one left of the girls of the SAM staff who still is still active.

CBGBConnisur
11-22-06, 13:27
Katja?? She my sister, she number four prostitute in all of Kazakhstan!!! LOL
The price structure at Bernd's is it 30EUR entry and 80EUR per session?

I would agree strongly with the poster below that Germany is a sex paradise, at least the parts where FKK clubs exist, mainly the NRW and Frankfurt. The large numbers of Eastern Euro women have a lot to do with this.

There should be a film Sexual Learnings of Germany for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of US and A!!!

Marlow
11-22-06, 14:03
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Way off beam I sorry to say. Entry to Bernds is 70 euros and each 30 minute session is 50 euros. Entry level is I think set this high to keep the riff-raff out (or should that be in? considering how the girls behave!) because you don't get a lot for it in terms of refreshment and facilities. Not compared to World. But hey, we're here for the sex. And it is hard to beat, when your fifty note buys you erection pleasure time on the sofa during which you will be washed and buffed and made ready for the lady's tent. Depending on your athleticism she will proceed to take you every which way and one or two you never dreamed of doing. When you are good and ready she will offer you the choice of three different 'venues' for your climax - only one of which you will pay extra for.
It is a real shame to go to Bernd's and end up playing missionary. The girls are very game for playing Twister. With you, your friends and her friends. Before I first visited Bernds I didn't have much use for 50 Euro notes. Amazing what it can buy you.

Ortos
11-22-06, 14:56
As long ago as last May, I decided to buzz off directly to Bernd's the very next time I am in Germany. This was well before the sudden interest in this club has blossemed, making it almost a cult selection, unfortunately...

Well my next visit to Germany is now just a few days away...and next Monday or Tues should see me in Lichtenburg. So in advance of this, I suddenly start wondering:

--Is there a preferred time of the day to visit this club? or is there a time to avoid?

--I know many clubs have particular patterns: the day time sucks for selection, but after 19.00 the place really picks up...or there are two shifts, day shift vs night shift etc... Well given the fairly early closing time of Bernd's relative to some other clubs, maybe there is only one shift? So if one arrives at say, 15.00, is this a good time to catch the full selection and not be inundated with other male guests? or can one still show up as late as 18.00 and have the best benefits the club can offer?

Just looking for some general guidance here...

thanks in advance to anyone with enough knowledge and kindness to reply...

Ortos