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Excess

04-03-06, 11:56

Following hot on the ehhm, heels of Toscana, I visited Samya last Tuesday 28th and was prepared for a full evening - arrived about 4:30p.

Did not see Toscana or Breadman's posts until now.

It was my second visit and I enjoyed my first.

However, I must concur that there is something wrong at Samya.

I won't describe the place as it has been done amply before - just to say that it is a 3 level facility - lockers, showers and masseur in the basement, bar and lounge area on the main floor and rooms upstairs.

A nice touch is at the entrance where they list all the girls, the prices and extras. Hadn't noticed it before. It was up to daye as of March 13. Two anal girls were listed. Euro 25 extra on top of the constant rates of Euro 50 per 1/2 hour inclusive of FS and BBBJ - Euro 25 for an extra half hour. BBBJ to completion if available on a case by case basis also calls for extra Euro 25.

I do appreciate the clear and up front tariff.

I spent the first hour simply observing.

There was a samller Polish contingent, a sprinkle of Romanians and others, and Mother Russia and the Ukraine was well represented more in proportion to previously. For the first hour or two, there were perhpaps 5 guests as the lunch crowd had thinned out and about 8 girls. No stunners - several shall we say a little heavier than is to Excess's taste, but nothing bottom of the barrel.

A couple of cuties.

After reflection, I found myself saying to myself for the first time of several during the evening, "This isn't very inspiring, is it?"

Why? I believe that Samya has fallen into the rut of allowing the girls to spend a great deal of time, i.e the vast majority of time sitting on the couches and talking amongst themselves in their native tongues. Nothing wrong with that but as Breadman and Toscana observed this tends to restrict access to the girls, sets up a them and us scenario. Ditto at the bar, a little more open but often the girls spent an inordinate aount of time talking to themselves or playing on the video machine.

Few appreciate constant hectoring by the girls at a FKK or elsewhere, "Wanna go to the room?", it becomes very tiring and annoying. However, there is a bit of marketing in everything and the girl's and Samya would find that circulating amongst the punters, a bit of flirting and conversation with the punters does up the room occupancy rate significantly.

It also gives that 'buzz' and general excitment that a good FKK has.

Time to re-energize the troops Samya, and get them up and about rather than siting alone or together for up to 3 hours without a customer - as I observed. It really is a management problem.

Enough of this, on to the evening itself.

Met a nice lady, Galina from Valdivostok she said - ready to talk although her English was about zero and her German rough. NO problem, a very classic Slavic face and good figure - roughly 28-32.

After a few drinks and chat - I was ready for the room.

Started with a stand-up slow stroking session both ways, moved to the bed
and Galina started a decent BBBJ with good skills slowly and uping the tempo as required. No teeth in sight or excess hand movements. Moved on to covered squating cowgirl, very nicely done. A bit of doggy, and then decided to finish with the squating cowgirl which was very successful.

A good value Euro 50 with a Euro 10 tip for good performance and as recognition of her superior marketing skills which are to be encouraged.

Showers and payment is made downstairs at your locker after your room time.

More time spent observing the limited interaction between guests and girls with the 'This isn't very inspiring" line again coming to mind.

Sought out a well turned out dark haired Romanian who at least had a bit of a sparkle in her eye - following the ISG mantra of if it isn't in the eyes, then it probably isn't anywhere.

At this time a few new runners arrived and a couple were leaving - including a couple of cuties - guess they may have had class the next morning.

The Romanian girl spent a bit of time at the bar - and I suggested that it was time for move upstairs. Again time for touchy feelie, she started cowgirl and performed well but then she requested that we move to doggie which she said she preferred. Spent quite some time in strong doogie until Excess felt it was time to conclude, which he did.

Again, good service, no rides to the moon but very fair value.

Back to the showers, a chat with the Masseur, Sammi, about a recurring shoulder injury and observation time. As it was getting later - about 10:00 - the annoyance factor was beginning to catch up with me.

There were several on the to do list but at this point, but frankly, I couldn't really motivate myself to conclude a deal. There was also a first timer being introduced to Samya by her Russian colleagues having arrived after 9:00.

Thought she might be given a good start-off by Excess but in the end didn't bother.

Sad, isn't it?

Rather than staying 'till closing as was the plan decided to head off. But before doing so, grabbed another Romanian blonde - Romana(sp) - a bit heavier than usual requirements but with lovely C cups and again a bit of animation going on in the eyes.

Headed up for a good session, nice standing BBBJ while Ms. R. was on the bed on all fours as it were. No sign of stopping until I signaled her to do so - would have gone to completion. We both layed down and gropped for a while and then Ms R. moved herself into a squating cowgirl and we both rode off into the sunset - very nice.

So the tally for the evening at Samya.

3 good value sessions - nothing rocked the world but hey, we are talking about human endeavours here - that only comes along once in awhile. The BBBJ standard practice is nice - the squating cowgirls that were spontaneous a nice and welcome change - seems to be a bit of a specialty here.

Samya really should re-instruct the girls into doing some casual mingling and flirting with the guests, break up the couch bridge sets and move them off the video and up to the bar. Use the couches for concluding arrangements rather than holding pens.

The Customers will be happier, the buzz would be there, and the girls would see a significant increase in earnings.

All the rest is there at Samya - very clean, good rooms - it's just the "This isn't very inspiring, is it" that should be banished.

Oh yes, and ISG would be giving Samya further unqualified reviews.

Would I go back to Samya - probably if in town - but not top of the list sadly, so might give it a miss.

Breadman

04-03-06, 19:21

Facing you is the circular bar (alcohol!),

You might think Finca Erotica is some interior designer's idea of Spain, a kind of shopping mall for sex. The garden should be finished within a couple of months. For me nothing better than outdoor sex under a hot sun.

The entrance is 50 euro and each half hour session also 50 euro. .Marlow, can you tell us if there is a charge for the beer? If so, how much? Was wondering how large the garden is or will be...and if you had access to it on your visit. Im assuming it was 50 euro's for every half hour...same pricing as World...am i correct?

Also, what night did you visit and how many girls did they have working?

I might be tempted to try out one of the new clubs at the end of May, will keep an eye on the board for info.

P.s. to Peter...heavensgate is on my list seeing its 2 minutes from the Dorsten partytreff...how many girls did they have working when you visited?

Warsteiner

04-03-06, 20:02

Guys,

After reading the recent reports about Samya and the fact that the girls sit around in groups I think that they should adopt a similar position to GT. During a recent visit about 2 weeks ago I was told by one of the girls that they are not allowed to sit together on the couches. They can sit next to each other on the bar stools opposite the bar but they have a strict rule of one woman to a couch, which makes it much easier to approach the women and means that the girls earn more money. Although the girls will sit on couches that are close to each other and chat there is no problem approaching the girls. Samya used to be my favourite club in NRW but I always found it frustrating to have to fight my way to attract the attention of a girl with a group of 5.

Routard

04-03-06, 23:29

Thanks Marlow for your report about Finca Erotica. Find hereafter the exact location:

Finka Erotica
Adress: Postr 20 56269 DIERDORF
Phone: 02689 - 972 945 0
Homepage: www.finca-erotica.de
Open: Daily from 10am till 4am
Entrance: 50€

Toscana

04-04-06, 11:44

That is good news about Finca Erotica. Marlow's report is very helpful. The club is well within my distance range. Must try it soon.

Before I get on to what this new place is like, I want to say to Toscana 'keep your pecker up'!
Have no fear. In fact it usually goes down, then up. Happens more often than you might think :-)

And as far as seating arrangements at Samya are concerned, Breadman is dead right. But I don't know of a single FKK club where they manage to get that one right. You could do a whole Social Psychology doctorate on this subject. It used to disturb me more earlier. Now, I am much more prepared to break up groups of girls quite brazenly. Only way sometimes to get the pecker and other equipment into play.

Marlow

04-06-06, 12:59

Thanks to Routard for giving the address and website of the club. The website is good. In my view one of the best I've seen for style and pitch: More like GQ and Esquire than say anything called 'Busty Beauties'

Breadman - can't say as I didn't order a drink, could be there is a nominal charge.
The garden as of this moment in time is being carved out of virgin earth. No grass or anything laid down. My judgement is that they would be crazy to be still working on it by the end of May, so I think feverish efforts are being made to finish by the end of April. It is not as large as World by any means. I was at Finca during the day and about fifteen girls were there. Unlike World Finca does a fair amount of business between 12.00 and 16.00 and picks up again in the evening. The 30 Euro Happy Hour entrance has a lot to do with encouraging 'early starters'. The standard fee for half an hour is 50 Euro. Extras such as a blow job without condom to a wet-lipped finale is I read on the German sites 50 euro extra. Anal should be also around 50 Euro extra. unlike Samya there is no menu listing. You need to ask the girls individually. Same with threesomes - usually 50 euro for each girl for each half hour.

However if you are into threesomes and anal sex and sandwich (DP) the best offerings tend to be at Bernd's Sauna Club (the Hof) in terms of the girls who do.
Because it is new I have the impression Finca is out to please. As with anything to do with selling, it's all down to the motivation of the sales team and the managers to inspire that team with the morning pep talk. I sometimes wonder if the guys who run these clubs realise how much more business they would get if only they themselves had a better attitude to the girls and learned how to motivate them. It is amazing how quickly an esprit de corps can be generated that bubbles over onto the sofa.

GandJim

04-06-06, 18:04

Tosc,

Finca Erotica belongs to the same owners as Sauna World FantasyLand in Görgeshausen (one of your favourite clubs, isn't it?). They closed Sauna World to move operations to this one (if you try to log on to www.sauna-world.info, you will be redirected to Finca Erotica). ;)

Marlow

04-07-06, 08:50

FKKguide

04-07-06, 16:06

GandJim,

You're right to say that World and Finca are owned by the same bunch of rockers! If you do a search you'll find the reasons I was given for Sauna World having to close - the Germans proving themselves to be every bit as prudish as anyone else. Briefly the neighbourhood objected to this sort of carry on, so what they are getting instead in an authority run home for illegal immigrants/asylum seekers on their doorstep. Serves them (the moral majority).......by.In my experience as former manager of one of the early FKKs ~1990 there is no such thing as a 'moral majority' in Germany, maybe a 'moral MINORITY' and they can be powerfuf in the right/wrong locations. --

This was a small industrial village in the Rhineland, and luckily there the liberal Social Democrats had the say-so.

We scruplously followed the letter of the law, made sure the place was manicured and clean and surrounded by tall vegetation and fences, no noisy behaviour outdoors, all the proper permits up to date, no illegal girls working there, the tax accounting correct to the Pfennig, buy as much as possible from local merchants, etc ect. The owners were a local family, "Mr & Mrs Clean" types, and they had clubs and mainstream pubs all over the Rhineland with no problems at all. -- One of my best friends from high school was a protestant pastor in a nearby town, and I made sure he put a good word in for us. --

We also made sure the local media were on our side by allowing them in any time for free on press passes (as long as they got naked too!) --

But as fas as I knew, the owner were not bribing anybody, not even taxi drivers.

There was a similar FKK club just 500 mtr from us and they had no problems either, following the same standard procedures. We made sure that we were on friendly terms with them, like sendinsg girls back and forth to fill in absences, trading beverage and food stocks, to fill in shortages, ect. And back then it was really not 100% legal yet (that only happened in 2002 with the Protitutions Gesetz which decriminalized brothel operation).

"My" club operated successfully until the male owner died and his wife and daughter changed it into a beauty farm for women only. The other one still is going strong as far as I heard.

The problem with this biz anywhere in the world is that it attracts too many outlaw types and that gets the authorities' attention up. Many are non-locals with adventurous attitudes and questionable habits. So no wonder they get busted from time to time. Personally methinks this is not a bad thing and will eliminate the bad apples in the long run and improve the scene for all of us.

BTW: the same process seems to be happenig in the German sports betting and gambling industry.

Marlow

04-09-06, 21:48

Tyweed

04-10-06, 06:34

It has been said that there is a relatively new FKK called Atlantik (Not Atlantis), however I don't see anyone talking about that place. From what I see on the map, they are very close to Frankfurt. I am thinking about checking that place out, as well as PLACE and OASE in 2-3 weeks.

Has anyone been there?? Or any comments on that place?

Cheers,

FKKguide

04-10-06, 16:51

I think what I mean is the majority who are morally two-faced! What better examples do we have than Clinton and a certain American preacher once caught in a motel room with a girl of the night - both now totally rehabillitated! Ain't life wonderful.

I'd add a footnote to your club experience. Fly right and you'll be left alone, except as you suggest there is some bad money around.Oh yes, hypocricy! What a stupid broohaha was raised about the incidents. It's very titillating subject matter for the Anglo public. In continental Europe one hardly bats an eyelash over such matters, unless national security is jeopardized.

I remember well the gay foreign minister H von Brentano in the Adenauer era. We all giggled about him (like about "Mr Humphries" on BBC's A.y.b.s.?), but he was still a respected pol, even though technically it was illegal then (#175 StGB). -- When the popular Frankfurt hooker Rosemarie Nitribitt (the one who cruised the streets in a red M-B 190SL) was murdered in the later 1950s the public was outraged, not about any immorality of her and her prominent clients, but the poor girl's contract killing at the hands of some big shots.

Nobody gives a hoot about sexual matters in Germany, actually never has. We call sex (we even had to import a foreign word to desctibe it) 'the most beautiful but least important thing in life' ("Schoenste Nebensache des Lebens").

However the criminal element has not an easy life: pimping, trafficking, drug dealing, extortion, bribery, money laundering ect is very much frowned upon.

Henio

04-10-06, 19:43

Dedalus

04-10-06, 20:09

Oh yes, hypocricy! What a stupid broohaha was raised about the incidents. It's very titillating subject matter for the Anglo public. In continental Europe one hardly bats an eyelash over such matters, unless national security is jeopardized.

I remember well the gay foreign minister H von Brentano in the Adenauer era. We all giggled about him (like about "Mr Humphries" on BBC's A.y.b.s.?), but he was still a respected pol, even though technically it was illegal then (#175 StGB). -- When the popular Frankfurt hooker Rosemarie Nitribitt (the one who cruised the streets in a red M-B 190SL) was murdered in the later 1950s the public was outraged, not about any immorality of her and her prominent clients, but the poor girl's contract killing at the hands of some big shots.

Nobody gives a hoot about sexual matters in Germany, actually never has. We call sex (we even had to import a foreign word to desctibe it) 'the most beautiful but least important thing in life' ("Schoenste Nebensache des Lebens").

However the criminal element has not an easy life: pimping, trafficking, drug dealing, extortion, bribery, money laundering ect is very much frowned upon.

Well Mr. Guide, I have to take issue with you on some levels here. I will be the first to admit that my homeland has more than its share of prudish, prying people who are way too occupied with sex and scandal.

On the other hand I sometimes loose patience when Europeans tell me that they do not care about such things and that no one pays attention to such Skandalen over here. True, if Gerhard Schröder got a hummer from an aide (something not out of the realm of possibility), then it would probably not have meant the end of his political career. (On the other hand, given the tenor of Germany’s last election, I would not rule it out completely.) German newspapers and magazines are filled with “Schlagzeilen” that deal with Sex Skandalen. Actually this is a daily occurrence in this country’s top selling daily, “Bild Zeitung”. The press in other western European countries is no different and the UK is probably the worst. I have actually had converstations with people on the Deutsche Bahn who had a Bild Zeitung in their hands who have told me that the US makes to much of sex related scandals and nobody pays any attention to that stuff over here.

I do agree that most European countries are much more sexually open which is such a huge relief. But the Europeans are not above making much ado about a sex scandal if it is convenient to do so. Also a good number of prudes are over here as well. Let’s not kid ourselves.

Please don’t be offended but I really think that many Europeans pull that “Ach, du Amerikanern sind echt komisch und oberflächlich wegen dies und das“ card whenever they have the need to feel a bit superior themselves.

Cheers,

Dedalus, der auf seine Oberflächlichkeit sehr stoltz ist

Cachorro

04-11-06, 03:37

Meanwhile in nearby neighbour Sweden...

World Cup sex trade under fire

This week's call by Sweden's equal opportunities ombudsman for Sweden to pull out of this summer's World Cup football tournament in protest against the prostitution he says it will encourage is "a shot way over the bar", according to Sweden's Expressen.

"It is deplorable and deeply shocking that major sports events promote the sex trade and have traffickers rubbing their hands," the daily concedes, "but the answer is not to start boycotting future Olympic Games and World Cups."

However, the paper suggests, "it would go a long way if politicians, opinion formers, and in this case the sports world took responsibility and manifested their disgust at this modern form of slave trade".

The paper speaks of "a glaring shortage of men" who dare to speak out publicly against the sex trade, and throws down the gauntlet to the Swedish national squad.

"How about some of our high-profile footballers taking the opportunity during the World Cup to explain that real men don't buy women for sex?"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4878222.stm

Excess

04-11-06, 09:35

please excuse the tardy report from fkk villa - hannover - travel has taken me rather widely since early march but i have more or less faithfully reported on this in other threads - london, cologne etc.

i travelled to cebit and allowed a sunday for travel and to visit fkk villa. as before thanks to several board members - iseeu, peter et al for the tips and encouragement. my concerns were about fkk villa and in particular visiting during cebit. all concerns were certainly put aside during my visit - fkk villa is a real gem and a must visit. and the tower rooms weren't bad either.

please look back for excellent posts on fkk villa in this thread - peter and iseeu and others have reviewed the place previously. as it was cebit, travel was a bit widespread due to the town being booked out. nevertheless, i taxied over after taking public transport part of the way. the taxi driver knew it without hesitation and was rather excited after inquiring if i was going to be customer. he said that he would be given euro 20 by the management for delivering me to fkk villa.

as described, this is a real fkk and a real villa in the european sense - a small mansion. it is at the end of a somewhat narrow road in a green/industrial area, not a place that you are going to walk to.

upon arrival - it is impressive. 3 storey mansion with a tent in front of the entrance for cebit. at the entry the nice lady requested 80 euro's for entrance and use of all facilities. usually, it is euro 50 but like much of hannover at cebit time prices rise. downstairs in the locker room, there were notices in a number of languages announcing the fact that the entrance fee was euro 80.

thankfully, the girls held their prices of euro 50 per 1/2 hour. plus another euro 25 for the second half hour if you were extending. no one tried to lift the price during my visit. the palce is lovely. very clean - showers/lockers downstairs and saunas.

main floor a very comfortable and well furnished long bar - heavy wood and cloth appearance, 3 rooms two large and one small running off the bar area with many couches and a dance pole in one. as well another room off the top end of the bar with a very large screen playing porno - with several couches and a large bed platform immediately under the screen for when the urge strikes and if you prefer the room to the couches.

one of the best layouts and surroundings that i have been to in the sense that it is a villa-mansion so has a very luxurious feel about it. arriving in the late afternoon, i was surprised that there were only about 10 guests in the place and about 15-20 girls.

bottom line on the girls - a few real cuties - no bottom of the barrel types and in general to my happy mind about 90% do-able.

little pressure although that came and went - a few girls at the bar and others spotted around in the several rooms on the couches waiting for their prey.

always interesting to get the vibes on the unspoken rules of the house about the girls soliciting and flirting with the guests. at fkk villa, it seems that the girls can and do flirt but not in your face as it were - that came later both in the bar and of course in the rooms. on the other hand, only a few were playing the "i'm here - and you damn well can come over and beg because i'll ignore you until you do" game. fkk villa seems to have hit a happy medium on this.

i asked several girls why it seemed so quiet? they said that it will probably (hopefully) get busy in the evening after the show closes for the day. they said there were a number of parties last night with multiple couples sharing rooms that went on till late. indeed, down in the locker and shower area, there is another tv roo with large screen tv. it was showing eurosport and in the room were 3 beds lined up for the overflow. never saw them put to use in my time there.

after enjoying the complimentary soft drinks, took another wander around the lounge rooms. decided to sit down with a lady who was there. started talking and found a real gem of a lady - gina. she comes from hamburg very regularly and is obviously well known in the club. about 30, very nice natural body, bubbly and a real professional in the best sense of the word.

explained the origins of the villa, said she loved it here and the customers, a nice discusison concerning the fair, visitors etc. stated openly that her goal was to make sure that i was very happy, that we could consummate the deal here on the couches, in the porno kino room or upstairs. whatever we liked. prices were as listed and it would be her pleasure to serve. with an approach like that, i felt that i couldn't move on for a first encounter. after some fairly heavy mutual groping on the couches - i decided that i needed to see the tower rooms that peter was raving about.
so up we went.

all the rooms are similar - clean and tidy - the tower rooms are special with curved walls and very large beds. as gina said - great for friendly parties.

we got down to business with a lot of mutual stroking standing up and then laying down. moved into doggy which was very nice since the beds were at least for me just the right height to stand on the floor and gina's rear when all fours at a height where straight in entry was possible. this was very acceptable and comfortable to both parties and we began to pick up speed considerably.

after a while, decided to move into further pussy licking and stroking form the rear, and then back onto the bed for more of the same. gina then moved into cowgirl, all the while being nice and tight, and rode to a very good completion. that took care of the initial sperm build-up, and got me back onto an even plain. even though it was unseasonably cold outside with snow on the ground, it seemed that our exertions had completely steamed up the windows - so gina opened the windows to let things cool off before we left.

downstairs for a shower and gina arrived for her reward thereafter. as advertised , euro 50 for the full half hour.

spent quite some time in recovery and observing the mansion and girls. a good mix, germans, romanians, russians - the usual mix. again, as the evening started, a few more guests arrived - a few more girls and so the ratio was always in the guests favor.

eventually tried a lovely romanian lady, whose name was jeromina (sp). this lady stood out as it were with a lovel uncovered body in the bar area, lovely enhanced tits - "c" cups and out of proportion to her slim body. nice girl all around. another distinguishing feature was a nicely trimmed and thinned but more or less full bush - very unusual and hard to miss so a good marketing ploy.

i should mention that the girls had a wide range of outfits at fkk villa. some fully nude, others with a transparent bit of colored gauze around their waist, other with suspenders and light top only, and others with full outfits. something for everyone. by this time the bar was beginning to fill with girls and guests and the music was getting louder as were the guests. much more interaction taking place on the couches and at the bar.

took the lovely jeromia upstairs to one of the regular rooms - still very nice and settled into another excellent session. her nicely trimed bush seemed to be calling our for attention so i gave it to it. after the usual mutual stroking standing up during which little excess was very nicely treated, we took the bed for an extended session that ran into an hour.

for the first 20 minutes-1/2, i spent it nicely and completely on daty.
jeromia was appreciating the attention very much, becoming quickly fully exposed and with long licks up and around her pussy and with much attention paid to her rising clitoris. she was getting into it in a big way with her hip movements, her helping fingers keeping herself spread wide and changing over with excess's tongue to work on her clitoris. a very nice session of unhurried oral, one of the best of this type, i would say.

after this time, we again moved into strong and vigorous doggy with excess standing on the floor and the same straight in entry. after some time, and with muh encouragement, changed into missionary, a somewhat unusual postion for excess but we very vigourously and with some serious vocal accompanyment from the lady finished very strongly. an excellent session all around. the price was exactly on tarrif - euro 75 for the very full hour.

as i had a 45 minute taxi ride to my lodgings, i decided to complete the evening watching it start to build in both noise and action. talked with a number of guests who were not without experience in the fkk scene, and all agreed that fkk villa was a little known gem due to its location being hannover and off the usual fkk track.

standing at the bar, sipping a wine, was addressed by a lovely lady in a group of 3 who inquired if i was ready for action. she was one of mother russia's daughters and was the only one of the 3 who spoke some german or english.

true to her heritage, she said that i should take all three of the girls for a great party ! don't you love it - as the expression goes you can take the girl out of russia, but you can't take the russian out of the girl.

i excused myself with thanks as that would have seriously damaged excess's long taxi ride into the night and i did have a bit of work to attend to in the morning before a mega party in the evening. so, i quietly bid farewell to fkk villa and rode off into the night. it was clearly going to be a very active late evening as the guests arrived from the fair and after dinner. the girls were getting excited of course from the smell of euros. i should also sy that there was an evening buffet served downstairs - not spectacular but good honest food - a cut above the average and included in the entry fee along with unliited soft drinks all night. other drinks available as required for not out of the world prices.

so, in summary. once again profound thanks for the data and reports from those isg members that have gone before. i hope that this report gives a bit of the feel and color of fkk villa. i was fully satisified, thought the surroundings were terrific, and the girls just the right mix of push and shove towards the guests. i loved the place. something like a english gentlemens' club if you have ever been in one of the major ones in london - except with wall to wall pussy.

glad that it is off the beaten fkk track, but anyone visiting in the hannover region should make a point of going there. i will come up with an excuse to do so again later this year - happily i don't need much of an excuse. between major fairs - i imagine that it is primarily locals visiting the villa - what a lucky bunch of campers these guys are with fkk villa in their backyard.

if it was my backyard, i am afraid that i would be spending a serious amount of time there.

Tyweed

04-11-06, 16:09

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=436153&highlight=Atlantik#post436153Thank you veru much for the info. Some IMed me saying that they are owned by the same pepople who own FKK WORLD, but from the report, there is nothing special about that place, right? Since they are so close, I might drop by in the afternoon (if sucks, I would take a train to PALACE/OASE).

Tweed

PS. By the way, I went to a FKK (Dolce Vista) in Duseldorf, although some members here suggested to make a trip to PHG/GT (my german colleague and I did not have much time). Well, considering that I had been to PALACE/OASE a few time, I was very disappointed. I had only one session with a thin semi-cute blondish Polish girl which was OK (sorry, I don't remember her name for reasons), but I did not see many attractive ladies that could turn me on visually.

Jenbach

04-14-06, 17:40

I was scheduled to be at the SaunaClub Yin Yang last Friday night. But, I ended up missing my connecting flight from London to Eindhoven, on Ryan Air. Hence, I took the DutchFlyer service from Liverpool Street Station, on Saturday morning, via train to Harwich International Port, via Stena Line ferry to Hoek van Holland and the third leg via train to Roermond, with changes at Rotterdam Centraal and Eindhoven. A very good deal at GBP 45.00 and the ticket is valid to any station in the Netherlands.

On arrival at the Roermond train station, I started looking for a place to stay. The Hotel Roermond, which is right in front of the train station is very expensive at EUR 71.00 per night, inclusive of breakfast. There is another hotel across the road, but I did not check the rates there. I stayed at a real dump called the Hotel DE Toerist @ Mariagardenstraat 3. It costs EUR 35.00 per night for a room with attached toilets and showers and no breakfast. I would not recommend this place, as it looks and is quite seedy, but was safe, as the manager was up and about through the night. Economical, if you just want a place to sleep after a hard night of mongering.

After securing my luggage and freshening up, I walked back to the train station, which is about a five-minute walk from the Hotel DE Toerist. The taxi was thrilled to take me to the SaunaClub Yin Yang, explaining about the facilities, on the way there. He also complained that they did not pay any commission to the taxi drivers for escorting first time guests to the club. It cost exactly EUR 10.00 in taxi fare to the SCYY.

Catalyst, I have to disagree with you. In one of your posts below you had mentioned SCYY as a serious alternative to the World/Oase/Palace, in terms of the facilities. SCYY does not have a steam room, a swimming pool, adequate showers and simply there is not the square footage of any of the FRA clubs. This is similar in size to Planet Happy Garden and is intimate. But, even on a Saturday evening, the number of girls was only about 15. Mostly 6s and 7s and a few 8s. No signs of any 9s or 10s here.

The young Dutch guy at the reception is very helpful and informative. The bartender James, is very friendly and really tries hard to make you feel at home. The bar area is poorly ventilated and sometimes the second hand cigarette smoke can be overwhelming.

Girl #1:
Country: Brazil / Belem
Name: Nalu
Age: Unknown - 25?
Breasts: C enhanced

This girl has very exotic looks and a smashing Julia Roberts smile. I invited her into the jacuzzi and it was nice to be floating in the hot water with this hottie
Once in the room, on stripping I discovered a scary looking scar to the top and left of her mons veneris. She refused DFK and also refused to do BBBJ. I thought I should walk out and complain at the reception. As it was the first shot of the night, I let her do her CBJ and then asked her to complete by HJ. I was out of the room in 20 minutes. I would not repeat with her and would not recommend her, inspite of her smouldering good looks.

Girl #2
County: Czech Republic / Prague
Name: Veri
Age: Unknown - 25?
Breasts: B regular

A very nice service provider. Was very good at the cat bath and the BBBJ. DFK was offered, but I did not kiss her, as she had a cold. She wanted to start cowgirl with a condom after about five minutes, but when told to "langsam", slowed down and continued with the BBBJ. Suddenly rolled over and started rubbing her clit, asking me to massage her G-spot and finger her butt. I obliged and after about 5 minutes she had a loud orgasm, which was real, as she was wet and dripping from her pussy. And, she did not use any creams in her pussy, like some of the other girls.

After that she rolled on a condom effortlessly, using her mouth and rode me cowgirl. We were in one of the rooms with the large mirror on the ceiling and it was quite a sight to see her on me, reflected on the mirror. Finished with a COB, but did not demand for any extra euros. Recommended. Overall rating: 8/10.

When I was ready to return back to my hotel, they called a taxi for me. A guy showed up who was not a regular taxi, but a private car, escorting SaunaClub Yin Yang guests back to their hotels. It was almost 1:00 AM and I was quite hungry, as dinner was shut down by 10:00 PM. There was a small food place called "Eethuis Rosario", which had delicious pizza and doner kebabs, even at that early hour.

One last word about the catering at SCYY. As Catalyst mentioned earlier, the food trays are constantly replenished and this is just great. They even have cherry and apricot pies, along with fresh meats and sausages for girlling. But, it would have been nice if they had some better quality girls in the club. After all, us mongers do not go to FKKs for the food.

Cheers!

ChicagoMan

Catalyst

04-16-06, 08:34

CM,

I disagree about the facilities at Yin Yang. I'll bet it has more floor space than Palace. It doesn't have a pool, but how often do you see anyone in the pool at one of the other clubs? Didn't know about the steam room, but I've never used it in any club. I thought what they do have is really luxurious and exotic. The setting with the huge picture windows is fantastic.

Did you try the downstairs showers or the showers in the rooms? The showers on the ground level in the corridor suck.

The girls and their attitude were mixed when I was there too, and some of the best girls were about to leave. But I think the facilities are likely to attract more customers and more girls over time.

Peter

04-18-06, 22:08

Xavier Yves

04-19-06, 11:26

yin yang would never be a real alternative to a major club. They have lots of trouble getting guests and girls. Recently they have taken to 25€ entrance fee with a coupon from the newspaper. Usually not a sign of a booming success.

The place is large, on a square foot basis, but that is about it. I don't like the areas to meet girls, and the girls have always been second tier. The dutch girls consider themselves too good to fuck for 50€, as the local prices were always much higher, and service was never a major concern. They never had any customers in holland with that price and service system, but these people are't real retail experts.

Now they have the german price structure (a dutch club belongs in the holland section, not the german one BTW) so the local girls still aren't buying into it. so they get some girls from germany, but usually the ones who weren't doing too well at the german clubs just over the border.

I've been there twice, but I didn't like it, and until I read soem great reports, I am not going back.I don't want to be against to your comments. But apart from emtion, let's explain some facts.

1. €25 entrance promotion is for month of April from openning hour until 16h30. The coupon, you will get by email, not from newspaper.

2. It's true that lots of girls come from germany, but still some are coming from Eastern Europe directly, for exampl, Poland.

I agree Yin Yang should improve their service even though they have no competition in Limburg area (I personally think they're the only one FKK in Netherlands). However, they're not so bad in my opinion.

Xavier Yves

04-19-06, 15:07

Does anybody have a recent report for FKK Heavensgate?

Thank you!

Breadman

04-19-06, 16:45

Peter just did a review of that club. Last January I drove by it on the way to the Dortsten partytreff (about 1 mile away) but didnt stop in due to the lack of cars. Maybe should have gave it a try then...will do so next month though.

I went to Heavensgate today for the first time in about two years. That place is excellent right now. Tonnes of girls for such litttle club in the middle of nowhere on a Sunday. I had two excellent sesssions with Tonja and Kelly, and there were at least 3 other girls I would have gone with.

They have the pricing I think Wildenrath should take over. It is 25€ each 20 minutes, with an additional 10€ for BBBJ, but that just once, and entrance is normally 35€ with some happy hours where it is 25€. Kissing and DATY is included in those prices, if the girls offer it, and CIM is 25€ extra and anal is 50€. It is also clearly stated that there is no upcharge for multiple positions. I think posting it all so clearly and in 3 different locations makes sure the men understand the pricing and that the women all stick to the real pricing.

I considered it an excellent value, and a nice place in general.

Peter

04-19-06, 17:58

The coupon was in the Düsseldorfer Express for the last two weeks. Bring in the advertisement and pay only 25€ entrance.

It is not an emotional thing. I don't get emeotional about most clubs, but this one just doesn't have it. The management is actually good, and the facilities are OK, but it just isn't getting the buzz.

Not sure if the other FKK in Holland is still in business, but there was Bada Bing somewhere near Utrecht, which was doing well in the first few weeks. Haven't heard much since then either.

FKK's took a while to thrive in germany too, but once they do they blow all other forms of prostitution out of the water, so there is a vested interest to not let them thrive in Holland. Just ask CBGB and his plans of a FKK in Amsterdam.

It is like the people of New York wanting to keep Wal Mart out of the 5 boroughs.

And heavensgate has most of the parking back behind the house, so it never looks full from the front.

Gyg66

04-22-06, 15:14

Been there this week, the number and quality of the girls made me a good impression. In the same period I visited Palace and I must say that Goldentime is at the same level if not better than the big clubs in Frankfurth. Before 4 pm though few girls are presents, and not the best looking ones. There were at least four girls I would spend some time with.
The first is a very pretty one whose name I do not know; here is the description so if someone will tell her name I won’t have to read tonnes of reports: platinum blond long hairs, doll face and figure, tattoo on the right side of her abdomen (half covered by her slip), brown birthmark on her left calf, no navel piercing, jewel on a right teeth, not slim, about 5’7” tall, b/c-cups, lot of jewellery, fantastic butt. Nobody approched her for about two hours therefore I think she’s not much popular.
The second is Melissa 3, blond curly long hairs, pretty face with blue eyes, slim with beautifu butt, top model figure, about 5’11” tall, a red navel piercing (though I think this can be exchanged) and a small tribal tattoo just over her buttocks.
The third is Cindy from Moldovia, black smooth long hairs, very pretty face, no piercing, no tattoos, about 5’10” tall, navel piercing, b-cups.
The fourth is the rumanian Mona from Timisoara, whom I took to a room for good half hour. Mona is about 5’7” tall, black smooth long hairs, big lips, pale skin, b-cups, slim tight body with a smallish butt, has no tattoo or piercing; she is constantly booked, speaks fluent english & spanish. Her BBBJ is not the best in my experience (to much teeth), but her pussy is very nice, expecially while doggieing.

Xavier Yves

04-23-06, 15:06

Xavier Yves

04-23-06, 17:32

Peter

04-23-06, 21:32

Any guy can give some opinions on the Fkks as below?

FKK Orchideen-Club (Dusseldorf)
FKK Party 40 (Frankfurt)
FKK Park Sauna Wildenrath
FKK Wiago (Leverkusen)
FKK Sauna Club 2000 bei TINA (Mönchengladbach )
FKK Insider Privat-Club (Mönchengladbach )

anybody has the idea about their price and their girls?

thanks a lot for the opinions.

FKK Orchideen-Club (Dusseldorf)

Didn't even know it was still open. I have passed it a couple of times, it is in the middle of nowhere, and as far as I knew, it was now something completely different. Never heard anything good about the place.

FKK Party 40 (Frankfurt)

Never heard of it, sounds like the new name for some sort of appartment, and appartments are crap, unless you are very regular there.

FKK Park Sauna Wildenrath

My favourite club. Is not an FKK, as the girls wear lingerei. They are rebuilding and will have the grand reopening on May 6th, and as far as I knwo they are totally changing the pricing policy, to be without entrance fee, but not sure what it will be yet. There is a section for it here in the forum - and until then the prices are the same as PHG and Goldentime. They still have 4 or so top girls, but two years ago it had hands down the top line up in the FKK game. Management tells me they have some of the better alumni lined up for the re-opening. But at the moment there are some polish girls there who I wouldn't do, but 3 or 4 who are excellent.

FKK Wiago (Leverkusen)

Used to be good, then it was total crap. In the last year I have heard up and downs about the place. Not sure anymore if the owner is still the same, and whether they still have Babylon as a sister club. The homepages are still linked. I heard the prices had dropped, but then I heard they are back to normal. I have been once and had a horrible time. I called Babylon on Friday intending to give it another try, and they said they had only 5 girls. So I think these clubs still suck.

FKK Sauna Club 2000 bei TINA (Mönchengladbach )
FKK Insider Privat-Club (Mönchengladbach )

These both sound like simple appartment of the sort you would find in sexrelax website. Never heard of them, but they probably suck.

I would advise that you stick to the clubs that get mentioned positively in this and other forums. If a place is good it gets good word of mouth.

If you want to look for other clubs in the area, there is PHG, Samya, Goldentime, Dolce Vita (so so) Cocoon, Blue Note, Bernd's, Calygula, Freudenberg39, Dietzenbach, Saunaworld, Villa, PSD but I wouldn't recommending trying to be the very first to find some other club, which you think might house the best girls ever. It ain't gonna happen.

Breadman

04-23-06, 22:58

FKK Park Sauna Wildenrath

My favourite club. Is not an FKK, as the girls wear lingerei. They are rebuilding and will have the grand reopening on May 6th, and as far as I knwo they are totally changing the pricing policy, to be without entrance fee, but not sure what it will be yet.

If you want to look for other clubs in the area, there is PHG, Samya, Goldentime, Dolce Vita (so so) Cocoon, Blue Note, Bernd's, Calygula, Freudenberg39, Dietzenbach, Saunaworld, Villa, PSD .

Might have to try out Wildenrath on my next tour...especially if its free cover.
This is the listed pricing..Entry:50€ 30min:25 € 60min:50€ Extras:25€FO & 25€FT....will this be changed? Goldentime and PHG are closeby so if its bad a quick detour would be feasable. Im flying into Dusseldorf, was planning on driving to Frankfurt and back but having second thoughts...might just hit an extra club in the Dusseldorf area and repeat with the best club on the tour. Will save Frankfurt clubs for the next run.

Peter, I assumed Saunaworld would be closed when Finca Erotica opened...is that incorrect? Also, is 'PSD' a club or just a 'ps'?

M P Lurker

04-24-06, 09:50

I have a question for you experts out there.

In 2004 went to Phoenix FKK in Stuttgart.

Met several hot girls, but one (Cindy) showed up just a few days.

I believe she was Greek/German mix and spoke little English.

Very very pretty young honey blonde with large tits, extremely vivacious and fun loving. Laughing a lot and a little hiper-active. Seemed to be well known by the regulars, even though visiting Phoenix just briefly.

Her girl friend was Santina (Italian).

First day I missed booking her due to long list of aquantainces booked in first and she left with tooth-ache.

The next day I finally got to see her in the room.

Sex was incredible and she kissed beautifully.

Over time but she didn't ask for any extra money.

I gave her a small extra tip, after which she seemed very pleased and attacked me with her lips some more.

The next day waited for her but she did not seem to be coming. So went with another girl. It didn't go great purely because I had eaten bad prawns and my stomach was badly upset.

I was just about to go out the door, when in walks Cindy who says: "Mick, Cindy is here for you!" (about the best English she could manage). Was this the worst luck in the world? It was herlast night before she returned to Koln (Cologne). My most fantastic sexual experience ever but I was in no condition to perform. I promised to come back later if my condition improved. Unfortunately it only went down hill and I had a very bad night.

Does anyone know if Cindy works anywhere regularly? Seems to be more interesed in fun rather than serious work. I got impression she may have been part time student, part time in Greek restaurant and visiting Stuttgart only occasionally.

Honestly I couldn't rate Cindy less than 10/10 in virtually every department (face, smile, body, kissing, sex, BJ, etc.) except perhaps slightly over active would make personality score just under 10. O.K. English a low mark but who cares, my German is not good also.

I have since seen Santina (the friend) who promised Cindy would be coming next week but her reports proved unreliable.

Xavier Yves

04-24-06, 10:04

FKK Orchideen-Club (Dusseldorf)

Didn't even know it was still open. I have passed it a couple of times, it is in the middle of nowhere, and as far as I knew, it was now something completely different. Never heard anything good about the place.

FKK Party 40 (Frankfurt)

Never heard of it, sounds like the new name for some sort of appartment, and appartments are crap, unless you are very regular there.

FKK Park Sauna Wildenrath

My favourite club. Is not an FKK, as the girls wear lingerei. They are rebuilding and will have the grand reopening on May 6th, and as far as I knwo they are totally changing the pricing policy, to be without entrance fee, but not sure what it will be yet. There is a section for it here in the forum - and until then the prices are the same as PHG and Goldentime. They still have 4 or so top girls, but two years ago it had hands down the top line up in the FKK game. Management tells me they have some of the better alumni lined up for the re-opening. But at the moment there are some polish girls there who I wouldn't do, but 3 or 4 who are excellent.

FKK Wiago (Leverkusen)

Used to be good, then it was total crap. In the last year I have heard up and downs about the place. Not sure anymore if the owner is still the same, and whether they still have Babylon as a sister club. The homepages are still linked. I heard the prices had dropped, but then I heard they are back to normal. I have been once and had a horrible time. I called Babylon on Friday intending to give it another try, and they said they had only 5 girls. So I think these clubs still suck.

FKK Sauna Club 2000 bei TINA (Mönchengladbach )
FKK Insider Privat-Club (Mönchengladbach )

These both sound like simple appartment of the sort you would find in sexrelax website. Never heard of them, but they probably suck.

I would advise that you stick to the clubs that get mentioned positively in this and other forums. If a place is good it gets good word of mouth.

If you want to look for other clubs in the area, there is PHG, Samya, Goldentime, Dolce Vita (so so) Cocoon, Blue Note, Bernd's, Calygula, Freudenberg39, Dietzenbach, Saunaworld, Villa, PSD but I wouldn't recommending trying to be the very first to find some other club, which you think might house the best girls ever. It ain't gonna happen.

Thanks a lot for the opinions, Peter. I put their names on just because of the curiosity, in order to see if there are more interesting places to be.

For those fkks you mentioned as below

Dolce Vita (so so)
Cocoon,

anybody has the recent reports to these two clubs?

Blue Note,

I don't know why lots of people mentioned it. I have a look on their website. seems nothing special.

Calygula,

I don't see lots of people have favorites on this. I think just so so?

Freudenberg39, Dietzenbach, Saunaworld, Villa, PSD

Don't know them too well. Even the locations. How about their locations and pricing?

Thank you very much

Breadman

04-24-06, 18:53

Xaviar, only two clubs on the list that I can give some info on is Dolce Vita and Cocoon. I really cant tell if your asking for info on all the clubs or just a couple, you might want to edit your post to make the questions a bit clearer.

Dolve Vita...small club. You walk in and the sitting area is to your left with a bar way in the back. Maybe 9 couch's in that room. Two smaller rooms with maybe 4 couch's in each (probably used to be bedrooms) that the girls really dont visit unless there's an overflow of guys and they have no place to sit...good place to grab a nap though. Showers are in back to the right, push button that shuts off way too quickly and not enough warm water. Girls wear anything from bikini's to summer dress's. Expect maybe 6 girls in the afternoon and a couple more showing up later in the early evening.

Cocoon...medium size club. Hard to describe the layout, but remember girls taking guys outside to hotel rooms if the rooms in the club filled up. Showers and pool downstairs (sauna outside by the pool). Two sets of stairs (one spiraling) to the main sitting area. Small bar with four barstools near the buffet area. Two large seating area's that probably have 15 couch's or more (didnt think of actually counting them when i visited). Small side area that converts to a room off the bar, used it but the bed squeeks so much i thought for sure the entire room could hear. Arrived on a Saturday...13 girls working, 6 of them pretty attractive...later in the early evening another 6 or so showed up...4 of them pretty hot. Only negative on this club is the pay when you leave billing...you dont know if a girl overcharged you until your ready to leave.

Peter

04-24-06, 19:04

Fly Bob

04-24-06, 21:41

Hello everyone,

I went to FKK heavensgate last night. Well, everything was ok. Small club facility is soso but food is really not bad, also I like the idea of watching German premiere league in Sat afternoon after having sex.

The price structure as everybody know, it's best value for money. Regarding the girls, 4-5 girls are stunning rest of them just on or below average.

Last thing, in my opinion, this FKK doesn't really refect the concept of sauner club. I used Sauner facility three times but only see one guy was there. Also most of German friends who went there picked up the girls very quickly without few talking. So do the girls. I tried to made some nice conversations over 5 mins but even not succeed. After few words of introduction, the girls just asked you if you want to go upstairs. Why I like FKK? I think I like that relaxing atmosphere and removing stress, but seems this one is too busy and professional.

Anyway, this is a good choice, will go there from time to time.

Your experience at Heavens Gate matches what I have found there. There certainly is not much talking that takes place on the couches. There is no action that takes place there and the girls are anxious to head for the room and start the 20 minute clock running.

I do agree with you that for the money this place is good value. The girls are overall good and the house is nice. In the summer it is nice to relax in the back yard. There are a number of lounges and a small swimming pool.

I would suggest that you try Bernd's in Scheiferhof sometime. There is a lot of couch action and more talking before the room. The girls are a bit older and more skilled. This place is about the same size as Heavens Gate. This is definately one of my favorites.

Enjoy.

Bob

Breadman

04-25-06, 00:21

Any idea if Heavensgate will allow you to leave and then re-enter?

Fly Bob

04-25-06, 00:46

Any idea if Heavensgate will allow you to leave and then re-enter?

Breadman,

I don't know what their policy is on re-entry. I never asked them or saw anyone do that. The conversation with the cashier is discrete so I would not have heard it anyway. I would be surprised if they were opposed to this. They have a 25 euro happy hour so they might say something about the extra 10 euros if you came back when the price was higher.

Why doesn't someone ask them directly and let the rest of us know? The management seem to be accomodating.

Bob

Jackyo

04-25-06, 12:27

Fly Bob

04-25-06, 15:21

This is an out of the way club tucked in a corner of the Ruhrgebiet not many people get to.

Its small, kind of like a RTC (Red Carpet Club) but better lighted and without that red bordello decor.

Pricing is good but the selection was not anything to write home about. This is not a nude club - the women wear bikinis.

I went twice to the room here, the first time with a blonde who turned out to be Swedish but who had lived in Germany a while. Man, I hate it when I do doggy style and the woman hasn't wiped her ass! She smelled godawful and I had to hold my breath while poking her.

The second time was with a German blonde who, it turned out, had fake tits and dyed hair (at least compared to her natural hair color down there).

In either case, it wasn't anything to write home about. In fact, I drove down to Wiago afterwards because I was looking for the real thing.

Food was terrible - the usual Belegtes Brot selection of cold cuts, cheese, butter and bread. What was komisch: there was a sign in the kitchen saying: "Wir haben nur das Beste fuer unsere Kunden".

Made me laugh as the food could have been a lot better.

Their sauna facilities are downstairs and so is the shower and tanning bed. Most club showers are clean and well taken care of. This one smelled of mildew.

Fazit: I wasn't blown away. Don't think I'd go out of my way to go to this club. The only real thing it has going for it is its pricing which is clearly marked everywhere particularly as you walk upstairs to the rooms.

Jackyo,

It is too bad that you had such a bad experience at Heavens Gate. This is totally inconsistent with my experience. You are correct that this is a bit out of the way and takes effort to get there.

All the women were clean and pleasant to me. Also, you must have hit a special day when they wore clothes. All the times I have been there it was a true FKK. Granted some of the girls did wear a lace around their waist but that really did little to hide anything.

As to the cleanliness of the place, you again must have hit a terrible day. The biggest problem that I ever had was getting another towel, I had to step into the laundry room, but no big deal.

Sorry about your bad experience, definately different from mine.

Bob

Arnie

04-25-06, 16:54

Jackyo -- which day of the week did you visit Heaven's Gate?

Xavier Yves

04-25-06, 17:16

Xavier Yves

04-25-06, 17:20

if you go to www (dot) roemerforum (dot) com there is a Europreis list of all clubs you can ever imagine and all prices. I cannot cut & Paste from there, so go look it up there.

Calygula is the favourite club of the person who started Roemerforum, so those are pretty good credentials.

Saunaworld used to be really good.

Cocoon remains an excellent club, where it is hit and miss with the women, but can be excellent

I cannot stand Dolce Vita, because I am the only blonde person they have ever seen there. They also have a dolce vita night club closer to town, which supposedly is quite OK, but I have never been, because I might know some opeople who live near there.

Blue note has had some excellent girls working there. The facilities are nothing special, but if there are good girls there it can be OK. I don't like that the rooms don't have doors, and are quite noisy, but that is my thing.

Clubs are always dependent on the women there, and since they are all free to come and go as they please, there is no guarantee a club will be good.

But if you enjoyed Heavensgate, you will like most of the medium size clubs more than the mega clubs.

Peter, thank you for your website.

I had a quick look on the list of FKKs. However, I think that list needs to be updated.

For example, they say in the list
Club: PHG Planet Happy Garden, Oedt
Eintritt: 50 €
30 min: 25 €
60 min: 50 €
Getränke: auch alkoholische Getränke (=div. Biersorten) kostenlos, Frühstücksbüffet, Abendessen und Pizza im Preis inbegriffen
Extras: 25 € F. ohne Gummi, 25 € FT, 50 € Anal

It's obvious that it's changed to the regular charge (30 mins for €50)

Anyhow, I still found some interesting clubs like Arabella and Park Sauna Wildenrath,

Ányone knows their recent pricing and timing structure? thanks a lot in advance.

Xavier Yves

04-25-06, 17:27

Your experience at Heavens Gate matches what I have found there. There certainly is not much talking that takes place on the couches. There is no action that takes place there and the girls are anxious to head for the room and start the 20 minute clock running.

I do agree with you that for the money this place is good value. The girls are overall good and the house is nice. In the summer it is nice to relax in the back yard. There are a number of lounges and a small swimming pool.

I would suggest that you try Bernd's in Scheiferhof sometime. There is a lot of couch action and more talking before the room. The girls are a bit older and more skilled. This place is about the same size as Heavens Gate. This is definately one of my favorites.

Enjoy.

Bob

Bob, thanks for your comments.

Regarding FKKs around Koln and Bonn area, Bernd, Sudbad (same owner as Bernd), Samya, Babylon etc, they are good but they cann't spark my interests anymore.

That's why I talked a lot about Fkks in Dusserldorf regain and even north.

Peter

04-26-06, 08:08

Xavier,

The list is absolutely up to date, at least in PHG. That has been the price for a long time. Every half hour is 25€. FO - which means BBBJ costs 25€ extra one time.

That has been the pricing system in those two clubs for a long time. You might have problems finding girls who are happy about going for the 25€ session with the covered BJ, but it does exist.

When the manager Tom left for Goldentime, he abolished the 25€ session and made the first half hour include BBBJ because girls didn't like it.

But that price is accurate, as are almost all the prices on that list. There are a couple of hundred contributors to that site, and when prices change, the people are pretty quick to report a change.

Xavier Yves

04-26-06, 11:37

OK, thank you very much for the infos, Peter.

Anybody can tell me the recent entrance fees for Cocoon, Blue Notes, Arabella and Park Sauna Wildenrath?? Really don't understand their German webpages. Thanks a lot in advance

Jackyo

04-26-06, 11:54

"Jackyo -- which day of the week did you visit Heaven's Gate?"

Hmm.. I probably have notes on this somewhere (I write reports for the Roemerforum).. but would have to dig to find them.

In Dorsten I would visit the PT (Partytreff) on the other side of the highway first before visiting this club.

Blondofil

04-26-06, 14:26

Here are the prices

Blue Note, Düsseldorf
Rather Broich 9, 40472 Düsseldorf
Entry : 55 €
30 min: 30 €
60 min: 60 €

Fkk Cocoon
Mollenkotten 243,42279 Wuppertal
Entry : 50 €
20 min: 25 €
40 min: 50 €

FKK-Club Arabella
Lohrheidestrasse 63 44866 Bochum-Wattenscheid
Entry : 35 €
20 min: 25 €
40 min: 40 €

Parksauna Wildenrath
Heinsberger Strasse 35, 41844 Wildenrath/Wegberg
Entry : 50 €
30 min: 25 €
60 min: 50 €

Wanking

04-27-06, 21:09

Here is a review of Sauna Blue Note in Dusseldorf

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=458016&postcount=49

Jackyo

04-28-06, 07:38

Been at Blue Note a couple of times. I've good service at this club.

Biggest advantage: its easy to get to via S-bahn. And its not far from the Duesseldorf airport.

In fact, I once had an afternoon flight to catch and had time to kill so I dragged my luggage to the club, got there when it opened, had two sessions and then caught a cab to the airport to make my flight (its five minutes away).

Small club, no outdoor area at all. If you want to go for a walk the best you can do is walk in a circle. In a counter-clockwise direction from the front reception area: there is a corridor which takes you past the toilet, Umkleide (and Damenumkleide), sauna and shower, large Spielmatratze in the back, past a couple small semi-private rooms, an elevated Kuscheleck, a common contact area with very uncomfortable seating (either pillows on top of cold stone benches or Barhocker), the bar area (some food is served, drinks are self-service), then private rooms with doors, then back to the reception area.

The selection of women is decent, skewed a little older but experience isn't a bad thing. I've been with eighteen and nineteen year-olds - they usually don't know what they are doing. I've been with Nicole, Julia, Yasmina, Ewa, a Latvian (or is it Lithuanian?) blonde whose name escapes me now and a Volgadeutsche (d. h. deutschstaemmige Russin) whose name I forget also.

The best part of all: Preis-Leistungsverhaeltnis is good.

If you have an exhibitionist streak, they have absolutely nothing against you doing it out in the open in full view. I used to think this kind of thing only took place at Bernds but this club is just as loose.

Overall a decent club with decent service but not if you are looking for an Optikfick.

Fly Bob

04-28-06, 21:41

I have a trip to Munich in a couple of months. Any recent visits in this area? How about ColA? I the place called FKK Champagne open?

Appreciate the advice.

Bob

Jackyo

04-29-06, 00:22

Dude,

As the Germans say, Muenchen ist tote Hose.. in fact, Bayern ist tote Hose.

Literally, "dead pants".

The only club in Muenchen I've heard about is in Pasing.

Heard that is expensive and nothing like the experience in Hessen or in NRW (Nordrhein Westfalen).

Why? Bayern is generally more conservative than the rest of Germany.

Germans joke about how they need a visa to visit Bayern.

If you do go, do write about it and let us know.

Jackyo

04-29-06, 11:26

I've written to the administrator of this forum asking that he consider rationalizing the report threads of this category.

Lots of club reports now fall into the general heading "other clubs" but for general user friendliness, the forum would be better off if each club had its own separate thread.

New clubs come on to the scene, old clubs fade away. Samya, for example, deserves its own thread. Atlantis in Hessen has faded away and has no chance of reopening.

If I were in his shoes I'd also find a way to group them geographically by region so that we aren't getting questions like: "I'm spending the week in Muenchen and wanted to drop in on La Folie in Berlin for an evening."

Yes, this is doable and Germany isn't that large a country but it isn't quite something which makes sense.

What even makes less sense are some of the posts saying: "I want to drive 500 kilometers to visit XYZ mediocre club because I read about it." when sometimes the person asking the question is within a stone's throw of very good alternatives.

I would do a heading for the Rote Teppich Clubs (Red Carpet Clubs), one for each individual PT (Partytreff), split out clubs in NRW from those in Hessen (true there are other areas where they have clubs but once you've been to these two Bundeslaender, distribution of clubs elsewhere thins out very quickly).

For the record, I am not a fan of the large Frankfurt-style clubs. Sure the facilities and the large selection of women are impressive but they sometimes have the feel of Grand Central Station in rush hour, there is a lot of sameness in the women (z. B. the large Rumanian contingent at World - I had a session with a woman there once and five minutes later I could not identify her in a police line up if I had to), and its very hard to make a connection there (the women want to do the dirty deed and then move on - if you saw them walk by again just after a session they ignore you) - they have no interest in just sitting and schmoozing. I call it the equivalent of a McDonald's fast food mentality: you get served and they move on.

There is also the matter of the hard sell which is a turn off.

I was at the former Atlantis and there was a really cute petite blonde who was just to die for. I sat and watched her though. Every five minutes like clockwork someone would come by and they would go back into the rooms outside. Every fifteen minutes she would come back with the guy in tow. I timed this and obviously she wasn't going to "love you long time". So after watching a couple of her victims, she comes to stand three feet away from me, hands on her hips, pouts and asks: "Na und?" Picture perfect, cute face, nice tits and ass, nice shaved pussy. I just had to say: "Nein, danke."

All that glitters isn't gold. Good looks don't guarantee good service.

I find the smaller NRW clubs to be better: smaller edited selections (not just any Sabine, Dagmar and Katja can work there) and more of a fun athmosphere where you can just sit and interact (and I'm not just talking about couch action).

I fly into Duesseldorf when I visit and skip Frankfurt entirely.

Gyg66

04-29-06, 13:04

Been there yesterday, the quality of the girls were higher than expected, I would say similar to Frankfurth fkk. About 25 girls, of which at least 4 very beautiful. Only at 21 o´clock all the girls are presents.
Entry fee now only 55 euros.
Installations similar to FKKW.
Bye for now.

Wanking

05-01-06, 17:21

Here is my report

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=458015&postcount=48

Dreams

05-01-06, 18:26

Yes, Munchen is dead. Just take the train and in 45 minutes you are in Augsburg. See reports about Colosseum in the other FKkS thread.,

Free Derry

05-01-06, 19:52

The only good club in Bavaria is the Colosseum Augsburg (Cola), because there are many girls from Frankfurt and Cologne Clubs. Augsburg is round about 50 km from Munich away. You can drive with train to Augsburg main station (35 Minutes) and catch a cab (10 euro) to the club. 60 Euros entrance fee and 50 Euros for half an hour with the girl.

check out www.fkk-colosseum.de

I have a trip to Munich in a couple of months. Any recent visits in this area? How about ColA? I the place called FKK Champagne open?

Appreciate the advice.

Bob

Mike De H

05-03-06, 00:41

I experimented driving across England. Norfolk ferry lines to Dunkerque. The plan was Golden time and then World domination.

Forget the latter; I am just too old to drive across Europe. The former was hard enough. The Customs man in Blighty was all for giving me the hard time, and I thought that was reserved for the foreigners coming into the UK. Here is the conversation; PIHVJ: “Where are you going to Michael?” .Me: “Dusseldorf”. PIHVJ: “What is the purpose of your visit?” (Don’t you just hate stupid invasive questions from Pricks In High-Viz Jackets?). Me:“I am going to visit friends”. PIHVJ:”YOU’VE got friends in Dusseldorf?” (How insulting is that?), Me: “I’ve got lots of friends there, Agata, Mia, Roxanna, Sonya, Maria, Tanya, Tatilyana, Svetlana, lots of friends”. PIHVJ: :-O …Gives passport back. Ah well, glad to see England is safe with highly paid professionals like that protecting our borders.

Anyway, gripe over with, following my reassessment of the time taken to drive round the low countries, I changed the plan to accommodate a quick visit to Ritz Clubbing in Mol in Belgium. But to cut a long story short that didn’t happen either. Bank Holiday and Belgium was shut. No Petrol Stations, The auto pay machines would not accept my car, no maps, nobody on the streets to ask for directions and to cap it all my Sat Nav refused to accept the existence of Mol in Belgium. One very pissed off Wim later, who was very kind to go look for a map of Flanders Fair Fields; despite having to go to the Hospital with his family, sort of drove it home I was onto a looser here. It was time to make for home before I began to grow a big red “L” for looser on my forehead Enough said about that little disaster, I will concentrate solely now on the girl reports for you girl-spotters.

Oh, regards, to Debril and the Dutch guys from Hookers who made the trip more interesting.!

Girls I Sampled:

First on the list had to be Das Crazy Mädchen, Monique, who used to work behind the bar at GT. Excellent English, Amazon body. Blonde hair, blue eyes, and an ass to die for. So much all the car staff (yes girls) keep trying to pinch her arse… “The girls keep after my ass, they won’t leave it alone” Monique explained to me at the unusual site of the manageress chasing Monique out of reception with her hand up her crack. I love this place.

I spent 1 hour 7 minutes with this girl, lots of talking. Top class service, more PSE than GFE, but very good at what she does. She kept the price to one hour (so I tipped a little extra). Very accommodating but I prefer girls with more submissive performances I have discovered. Thoroughly recommended:

Name: Monique
Nationality: German
Age: 23
GFE/PSE: 5/8
Overall performance: 8
Performance type: Skilful, talkative, Compassionate, highly sexual.
Looks: 8 slightly large in the posterior department but not fat.
Communication Skills: Multilingual, good communication at all times.

Lots of talking later on, good friend to make at the club. She is popular and hard to get hold of, always socialising.

Second was an accident. A new Roumanian called Rebecca used unfair tactics. Skinny, bleached blonde, she came over as she say I was ready and stuck her tongue down my throat before I knew what I was doing. I got a hardon and she knew I was committed. I did not really like her in the room. Nothing bad, just a bit “Julia” like for those of you who know what that means. Does everything right but impatient. “Its your fault you did not come, you held back, I felt you.” Left after twenty minutes. Later on, whilst talking to the Hookers boys she processed a pissed off looking guy in ten minutes. She will improve or go to Palace. One or the other.

Name: Rebecca
Nationality: Rumanian
Age: 19
GFE/PSE: 4/4
Overall performance: 5
Performance type: rushed, robotic generic GFE, not rip-off.
Looks: 5 bad hair stylist
Communication Skills: Multilingual, intelligent.

Third was the Bulgarian from last week Katja. Katja who this week told me she still would not kiss, but her eyes followed me everywhere. When she say how Rebecca waited, she realised it was time to shit or get off the pot. Once recovered, she relented, put her arms round me and deeply kissed me. Sold. Great sex, great session as always.

I decided to milk it for as much couch action as possible. She agreed to the Spa (wow, my first spa action ever- slippy wet girl, I love it) Sauna (hot sweaty girl, I still love it) and lots of cold water splashing and screaming. I am in love again.

Name: Katja
Nationality: Bulgarian
Age: 19
GFE/PSE: 9/5
Overall performance: 9
Performance type: Sensual, Compassionate, soft
Looks: 8 still suffering after effects of a recent birth but super pretty face and hair.
Communication Skills: poor.

The thing I love about this girl is she does anything you want, makes no suggestions. Everything you do, is good with her. Like the next and last girl, she makes those soft mewling noises when you do something you like, which means that she likes what you like or she is very good at reading you. Submissive, makes you feel like God in the bedroom. Sure fire recipie for success.

Last girl, Lula. New in the job (six days) from Czech republic. Lots of dark hair, soft, soft young body with milky white smooth skin. Finished with a hole-in-one in twenty minutes she is that good. Fingers In The Pie (FIP) anything went. A touch of BV but not too bad, was the only complaint. Get her whilst fresh.

Name: Lula
Nationality: Czech
Age: 19
GFE/PSE: 8/7
Overall performance: 9
Performance type: Sensual, Compassionate, soft
Looks: 8 still with puppy fat
Communication Skills: below average English skills.

Breadman

05-03-06, 16:18

Mike, how does GT stack up against the Frankfurt clubs and the other Dusseldof clubs you've visited? Reports vary on the food selection...how did you find it?

I like the looks of the club (although the website doesnt show much, this website has some good shots of the club http://groups.msn.com/FKKGUIDE/accueil.msnw). Rates are a bit lower also...75/hr compared to 100...and if you find a jem and keep her longer it looks to be 100/hr compared to 150. Plus free beer.

Mike De H

05-03-06, 19:39

...how did you find it?
and if you find a jem and keep her longer it looks to be 100/hr compared to 150. Plus free beer.

GT should have its own thread here. Its mostly from my Dutch freinds and Amsterdam mongering roots that I was introduced to the place on the 21st June last year. Feels like a lifetime.

Its very nice, very freindly and two hours costs 125 Euros.

If the Dutch ar shopping there, then you can tell its good value for money ;-)

Member #1006

05-04-06, 12:49

Breadman

05-04-06, 20:33

I'll probably visit this club two days while im in town...definately on tuesday the 23rd...then a repeat later in the week.

Xavier Yves

05-05-06, 17:25

the girls at GT are still accepting the price €25 for BJ with condom for 30 mins? or should be PHG?

Warsteiner

05-05-06, 19:18

I was driving back to the UK but had a few hours to spare before I had to head off and wasn’t really sure whether to visit GT or PHG. After my visit with the Romanian girl I decided to go back to PHG to see if she was there.

I arrived at about 11:30am and there were about 5 cars in the car park. There were about 12 women available but the quality was quite low with about 5 of these women being attractive and the rest showing too much cellulite or beer bellies. Thankfully the Romanian girl from my previous visit was there and after a quick sauna I approached her.

She suggested that we go to one of the huts outside as the weather was really nice and I agreed. Unfortunately the sun must have been shining on the hut all morning as it was about 30oC in the hut and there was no air-con. We opened a window but this didn’t help and even though the session was very good I felt myself wishing for one of the huts at GT, which has air-con.

Again we were in the hut for a good 50 mins and I ended up finishing with CIM and absolutely dripping in sweat. When we got back to the lockers I gave her €75 due to the CIM and expected her to ask for another €25 as we had been in the room longer than 30 mins but she looked at the money as if it were Christmas and was very thankful so she was probably only expecting €50.

If you get a chance to go with this girl you should take it as she is wild in the room and doesn’t expect extra money for a longer session or CIM.

Warsteiner

05-05-06, 19:19

Advantages of the club – good facilities, good amount of women available (20+) with several 8’s

Disadvantages of the club – the women can be aggressive and will not always take no for an answer, the rooms and huts are not air-conditioned.

After the disappointment of YinYang I decided to head to PHG to see if the day could be rescued. I’ve only been to PHG once before and this was about 2 years ago but there are plenty of reports on the German boards about this club.

I arrived at about 4pm and there were about 20 cars in the car park. After ringing the doorbell and being let in I paid my €50 and headed to the changing room. I had a quick look in the main contact room and was relieved to see about 15 women several of which were very attractive and there were also some decent looking women in the area by the sauna.

Name: Julietta
Nationality: Italian
Appearance: 5’4”, slim, shoulder length dark hair, B cup breasts
Looks: 8
Attitude: 7
Overall performance: 7.5
Performance type: good BBBJ, enjoys DATY
Languages: Italian and German

Juliette was sitting on one of the stools in the main contact area and after a quick chat we went of to the room. She has previously worked in a club in Dortmund and has been at PHG for about a week. She has lovely big dark brown eyes and is a very sweet girl. She kisses lightly and enjoys 69 and likes to be on top and take charge.

After looking around and having a sauna I noticed a very petite girl with a great figure messing around with a couple of the guests and having a good laugh. I waited until she was alone and then made my move.

Name: ???
Nationality: Romanian
Appearance: short dark hair with purple streaks, 5’0” tall with a very petite figure and B cup breasts
Looks: 7
Attitude: 9
Overall performance: 9
Performance type: great DFK, numerous positions, doesn’t watch the clock, CIM
Languages: Romanian and German

Unfortunately I cannot remember this girl’s name but after a quick chat we went off to the room. She has a fantastic attitude and really gets into the session with DFK and is very flexible and is happy to have sex in any position. After the strains of the last few days I was having a bit of trouble cumming and we spent at least 50 mins in the room but when we went back to the locker and I asked her how much it was she replied that it was just a normal session so €50.

After a sauna and a bite to eat I left the club to drive back to my hotel.

Warsteiner

05-05-06, 19:20

Advantages of the club – very plush with good facilities and a nice outdoor area.

Disadvantages of the club – large club so unless there are a lot of people there is very little atmosphere, the restaurant is closed between 3pm and 5pm, low standard of women during my visit

I happened to be in Roermond on the 1st May and decided that I would head to YinYing to see if the club was any good. Although it was a bank holiday the club was open when I arrived at 12:30 so they must have been opening at normal times even on a bank holiday. The receptionist spoke English and advised me how everything works as this was my first time at the club. They are also running a promotion during May and if you arrive before 3pm you only have to pay €30 entrance rather than the normal €50. I got changed and then decided to investigate.

This club is very plush and has great facilities but due to the size of the club unless there are about 200 people in the club there isn’t going to be much of an atmosphere. There were about 15 men and maybe 8 girls when I arrived and the girls were nothing special – maybe one girl was a 7 a couple of 6’s and the rest were 5’s and below. There were about 2 or 3 Dutch women who were 35+ and after being surrounded by the stunners of GT and Samya during the previous day this club was a real disappointment.

After hanging around for a couple of hours to see if more women were going to turn up I decided to leave. I left at about 3pm and by this time there were about 20 men and 10 women but none of the women were above a 7.

This club could be really good if it could attract some decent looking women as the facilities are fantastic and they are building an outdoor pool. Every time I’ve been to GT it has been full of Dutch people and now I know why.

Warsteiner

05-05-06, 19:20

Advantages of the club – Easily accessible by public transport, normally about 20 women available, very high percentage of the women are very attractive (8’s and above), the women do not approach the men, the women have to stay in the main contact are so if you stay in the sauna area or outside you do not get hassled by the women.

Disadvantages of the club – not a huge amount of food available compared to other clubs, during quiet times the girls can sit in groups, very small outdoor are, which is covered by a tarpaulin.

Samya is one of my favourite clubs and they were having a BBQ in order to celebrate the end of April/start or May. Although the weather wasn’t very Summer-like there were plenty of girls to keep me happy. The club opened at 3pm and I arrived shortly afterwards and there were about 10 girls present and a similar amount of men. By about 4pm there were about 20 women and 15 men. Although Samya has received a bit of criticism due to the fact that the women sometimes sit in groups the standard of the women has always been very high during all of my visits.

Name: Carolyn
Nationality: Polish
Appearance: very girl next-door, shoulder length dark hair with B cup breasts and braces on her teeth
Looks: 7
Attitude: 7
Overall performance: 8
Performance type: This girl isn’t very professional and is more the girl next-door type, which is very refreshing, light kisses
Languages: Polish and English

Although all of the girls have their details on the Samya website this girl isn’t there for some reason. She has been in Germany for about 2 months and speaks very good English. The session in the room was good and after the professional sessions of the previous 2 days it was quite refreshing. She is very tight and responds very well to DATY.

My second session was with Donna who is on the Samya website:

Name: Donna
Nationality: Czech
Appearance: shoulder length black hair with tattoos on her back and on her stomach
Looks: 7
Attitude: 9
Overall performance: 9
Performance type: fantastic BBBJ with CIM
Languages: Czech and English

Donna said that she was only working at Samya for the Sunday and Monday but her details are on the Samya website and she is supposedly working there for the next few days. After talking to her we ended up having to wait for about 30 mins for a room as they were all busy, which is the first time that this has happened to me when visiting this club but the wait was worthwhile. Donna loves giving blowjobs and is very good at it but is not too keen at DATY as she is bi-sexual and freely admits that she like women to perform DATY and men to fuck her. She performed a very good BBBJ and then fucking in several positions before finishing in CIM.

During my visit the girls were all sat separately rather than in groups together so I don’t know if the management has taken notice of peoples’ comments or whether it was due to the fact that it was very busy on the day that I was present.

As I was getting changed when I was about to leave Susanna was having an argument with a guest who has just had a session with her. The session was for 90 minutes and Susanna was saying that the cost was €125 (i.e. €50 for the first 30 mins then €25 for the next 30 mins and then €50 for the final 30 mins). The guest was none to happy about this but Susanna was sticking to her guns on this price but I had a quick word with her and she really believed that she was charging the guest the correct price and not ripping him off. I’ve had long sessions with girls in Samya and they’ve always charged €25 per 30 mins after the initial €50 but apparently not all girls do this. The guest ended up paying the €125 but the situation wasn’t helped by the fact that both parties were speaking pigeon German as neither were native German speakers.

Warsteiner

05-05-06, 19:21

After my sessions of the previous day I decided to head back to GT and arrived at about 1pm and there were already about a dozen cars in the car park.

Both Dorothea and Angelik were in the club but I decided to try some of the other women. When I had visited the club at other time I had noticed a very attractive model-type girl who was very slim but had C/D cup breasts who attracted a lot of attention but seemed a bit stand-off’ish. I was very wary about approaching her but after seeing her laughing with several of the other girls I decided to give her a try:

Name: Lisa
Nationality: German
Appearance: model type, 5’9” tall, very slim, C/D cup natural breasts, long fair hair, has a tattoo on her lower back and underneath her right breast, also has the name ‘Micha’ tattooed on her right inner wrist
Looks: 9.5
Attitude: 9
Overall performance: 9
Performance type: doesn’t kiss or do DATY but otherwise very good, great BBBJ and will do come on tits for no extra cost
Languages: German

I approached Lisa when she was sat outside the kino and she is a very attractive girl with a great personality. Due to her stunning looks I though that she would be very cold and a bit of a pain in the ass but she was exactly the opposite and had a great sense of humor. She is one of the few German girls in the club as most of them appear to be Polish. She was telling me that there are about 10 German girls in the club out of about 140 girls overall. When I asked her if we could go to the room she explained that she doesn’t kiss, as she considers this to be private, and she doesn’t do DATY as this does nothing for her! I decided to go to the room anyway and had a great session with her. She does a very, very good BBBJ and allowed me to finish with a tit fuck at no extra cost. Although some people will say that DFK and DATY should be included in each session I respect Lisa for telling me this before going to the room as not all girls do this (see the report on the next girl).

During the previous day I had sat outside on one of the couches and had noticed a very horny looking girl giving a Dutch guy a great looking blowjob before heading off to the room and wanted to give her a try:

Name: Laruna
Nationality: Polish
Appearance: Long dark hair with B cup breasts, tattoos on her back (one word says ‘Sisters’)
Looks: 8 – very horny looking
Attitude: 7
Overall performance: 5
Performance type: lots of talking during sex (i.e. your so good, yes baby your doing that so well, etc), doesn’t kiss
Languages: Polish and German

After the great performance of Lisa this was a complete let down. I’d seen her perform a good BBBJ the previous day and was hoping for something similar but was severely disappointed. She doesn’t kiss and talks constantly throughout the session, which I find very annoying. In order to shut her up I said that I would CIM and she didn’t even do this properly as most of it went on the side of her face and in her hair and even had the audacity to ask for extra money as a tip. When I gave her €75 for the session and the CIM she looked at me as if I’d slapped her in the face but I just gave her the money and walked off.

Warsteiner

05-05-06, 19:23

Guys,

I’ve just spent the last few days visiting 4 clubs in NRW – some good and some bad. I haven’t put any ages in the descriptions of the women, unless I asked them, but the girls were all early 20’s.

GT – 28/4/06

Advantages of the club – lots of women (40+), good percentage of lookers, large outdoor area for the summer, plenty of food available at all times, the huts outside are air-conditioned.

Disadvantages of the club – the main contact area can be very smoky, women approach the men and this can be annoying, nowhere to relax without the women approaching you

I first visited this club in March and was blown away by the quantity and quality of the women in this club and had a great couple of sessions with Larissa and especially Regi so when I was planning to visit NRW this club was top of the list.

I arrived at about 3pm and there were about 25 women present. Unfortunately I didn’t see Larissa or Regi but there were plenty of attractive women available so I wasn’t too bothered.

After a quick look around it was time to get down to business:

Name: Dorothea
Nationality: Polish
Appearance: about 5’2”, short dark hair, B cup breasts and slim figure
Looks: 8
Attitude: 9
Overall performance: 8.5
Performance type: DFK and very enthusiastic in the room
Languages: only Polish

Dorothea had only been in Germany for 3 days and only spoke Polish and about 1 word of German (zimmer!) It was quite hard to get any type of communication going with her but she was very attractive so I thought she would be worth a try – I wasn’t disappointed. She was very enthusiastic in the room and provided a good GFE session.

After a couple of saunas and Jacuzzi sessions it was time for a bit more fun. There were plenty of attractive women but I decided on Angelik:

Name: Angelik
Nationality: Polish
Appearance: very petite (5 foot tall) with long blond hair and B cup breasts.
Looks: 8.5
Attitude: 7.5
Overall performance: 7.5
Performance type: light kissing, good BBBJ and CIM but a little bit professional
Languages: Polish and German

This girl attracted a lot of attention by walking around in a white basque with self supporting stockings and white lace gloves. After a quick chat I discovered that she has been in Germany for the last 2 years and works for 1 week and then goes back to Poland for 2 weeks. The session in the room was good but it seemed a little bit professional although there was a good BBBJ and she was happy to finish with CIM for an extra €25.

By this time it was about 10:30pm and was starting to get a bit busy so I headed back to my hotel.

Xavier Yves

05-07-06, 00:53

Just back from FKK Cocoon. Several conclusions:

1. Food: Not SO bad. But as Wang King said, it could be better. There was a dinner served tonight. porc, beef ball, chicken, vegtable etc. Many choice but not so delicious.

2. Girl: yes, it's ture that there are several 7s or 8s girls. A russian girl named Ilisa (?) went to room almost 10 times because of her cute face. But not so many speaks English...very dissapointed.

3. Facility: Just so-so. Cann't understand why Sauer facility is located in the corner of Garden. I almost caught cold! :)

4. Atmosphere: this is the point which confused me a lot. There is a large space on the first floor and tonight at least around 15 girls showed up there for around 20 clients. So girls/man ratio is very nice. But I found out not so many conversations were going on. People just were looking at people. In my personal opinion, they should re-arrange the sofas and facility in the club. There are so many sofas on the first floor but no place can be for an overview of whole situation! If you sit in one of the sofas, you always have some "dark corners", meaning that you have to turn around your neck to see if there are some girls availble. The most rediculars point is that beside the large space, there is a small bar where four chairs are put. There are always four girls sitting there, chatting to each other. You can imagin how difficult to get involved in their conversation, and standing like a stupid! Few man passed there tonight. So I noticed that there were some guys even perfer to stand beside the soft drink machine to get an overview, then it's much easier to find which girl sit where and go for here directly.

5. Price: Nothing special to mention. There is one question I would like to ask. If a guy select 20 mins session (covered BJ or BBBJ), how many positions allowed. It's very strange some girls allow 3 positions, while others even only allowed 1 position!

Voila!

Foxx1

05-07-06, 11:06

I was traveling through Germany the other day and decided to take a stop in FKK-Haus. It’s located in Fellbach, just outside Stuttgart. There is a U-Bahn stop that is near the club but I can’t seem to remember the name.

Typically I don’t write about my stops in Clubs because there’s normally nothing to report. This time was a little different.

I arrived a little early to a rather dull feeling surrounding the place. There were maybe 10 guests and 10 girls. Not a bad combination but no vibe in the club. The girls were still arriving and the place was bound to change. After a while I decided to go with Anya; a short little number from Polen. She doesn’t speak English so communication was in German. This little firecracker sure does have a lot of spunk. We were rolling all over that room for a very energetic 30 minutes. Well worth the time.

I needed a break after Anya so I checked out the rest of the facilities. There isn’t much to the club. They have 2 saunas; one hot and one warm. There are also a couple whirlpools but they felt a little cold for my taste. They’re planning to open a new wing that will sport several new rooms, a terrace, and a newly renovated casino area with a pool table. For now there wasn’t much to do between sessions. Alcohol is available from the bar for a price. Drinking a beer while viewing Football highlights on the plasma television at the bar, helped me pass the time.

After a while I was feeling that urge again. Decided to take a gander at Claire and see what kind of trouble we could get into. She is a skinning gal from Yugoslavia with jet black hair. Her hair reaches down to the middle of her back but I think a portion of it is extensions. She looks absolutely amazing in my opinion. The time with her was energetic like Anya but Claire has her own flare. There is just something about this girl that makes her so alluring. She defiantly doesn’t disappoint. Her English is broken but passable.

Now I took a long break. Food was served and it was ok. Actually I think it caused me to feel a little ill. Pounding back a have dozen glasses of water for the next couple hours seemed to finally settle my stomach. At around 9 or 10 this tall amazon goddess entered the club. She’s 178cms tall but with those shoes she was taller then every guy and girl in the club. There is no trouble spotting her, all the guys are craning their necks to take a look at her as she walks around. I thought I had no chance with this girl but the night was still young. Based on her looks I thought she was a quick-in/quick-out gal for the rooms but every time a guest went into the room, they were in there for a full hour or half an hour. There was no denying that this philly had something to deliver.

I was walking back from the bathroom after relieving myself for the hundredth time (I did drink a lot of water) and I ran into the amazon goddess. We sat down for a couple minutes but I was dieing to get her in the room. Off we went. In the room Francesca informed me that she is from Spain and Italy. She hasn’t been doing this kind of work for all that long but the skills she has in the room were breath taking. There was a feeling that she was actually enjoying the time together. Everything that I enjoyed was possible with this girl. The hour we spent together seemed like it was over in a flash. We exited the room drenched fully in sweat. There is a feeling that despite her amazing looks, she is devoted fully to the time with her guest. She will do everything possible to please. While we were walking back to the male lockers so I could pay her, I over heard a German guy just say one word to her, “Perfekt.” This is truly what this girl has to offer. Perfection. When that guy said that one word to her I swear it looked like she blushed when she responded with, “Danke”. If I’m ever traveling through the Stuttgart area there is a 100% chance that if I see Francesca there, it will be a repeat session.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.

Jackyo

05-07-06, 12:01

Just back from FKK Cocoon.

4. Atmosphere: this is the point which confused me a lot. There is a large space on the first floor and tonight at least around 15 girls showed up there for around 20 clients. So girls/man ratio is very nice. But I found out not so many conversations were going on. People just were looking at people. In my personal opinion, they should re-arrange the sofas and facility in the club. There are so many sofas on the first floor but no place can be for an overview of whole situation! If you sit in one of the sofas, you always have some "dark corners", meaning that you have to turn around your neck to see if there are some girls availble. The most rediculars point is that beside the large space, there is a small bar where four chairs are put. There are always four girls sitting there, chatting to each other. You can imagin how difficult to get involved in their conversation, and standing like a stupid! Few man passed there tonight. So I noticed that there were some guys even perfer to stand beside the soft drink machine to get an overview, then it's much easier to find which girl sit where and go for here directly.

Bonjour Xavier Yves!

In this club (as in a couple of other FKK clubs which come to mind), people watching is part of the soi-disant menu for the day, facilitated by the girls getting up now and again and providing eye candy.

There is no one place to sit to get an overview.. but this may be intentional as you need to get up every now and then to move around if you want to assess the talent - so you get up to get a drink or go to the bathroom, etc..

I always think of it as kind of sitting in a jungle and watching the animals stalking their prey.

A sure sign that someone is ready to go to the room is when you see him pacing while trying to make up his mind.

I know because I do this myself particularly in the large clubs like World where you can walk outside in the garden, pace the lower level near the pool and sportsbar or pace the upstairs area particularly the corridor leading to the stairs going downstairs.

Anthropological, psychological and sociological studies could be written about human behavior in such a situation and how people make choices about who they find attractive, etc..

There is a sense of anticipation built up around the decision of who to go with. I find it interesting to watch who goes to the room with whom.

I have often been surprised: "So he thinks she is attractive.. hmmm.. I'd never have considered her."

Women are clearly a Geschmacksache!

Since everyone is nude there aren't many ways for the men to show status (which is supposedly how women assess who they will go out with in the real world) - clothes or cars aren't brought into the club.

Also, it is (almost) a sure thing that a woman here will have sex with you.. not a sure thing in the real world.

So just enjoy it for what it is. Clearly if the women would spend less time talking to each other they would do more business.

In the smaller more intimate clubs like Bernds this people watching is at a different level because everyone is right up to the next person and there is so much more which takes place on the couches, usually just a few feet (30 cm per foot) away from you.

Its harder to watch this dynamic at the larger Frankfurt clubs - another reason why I prefer the smaller NRW clubs.

Think of the FKK clubs as being part of a sub-culture with its own rituals and norms for what is normal behavior and what is tabu.

And even between clubs there are differences: Its perfectly fine to masturbate on the couches at Bernds with the women just feet away watching you - this might be frowned on at other places.

A bientot (je parle francais aussi, meme mieux que l'allemand.. si ces clubs existaient en France.. ) !

Catalyst

05-07-06, 16:52

Breadman

05-07-06, 17:50

Peter

05-07-06, 18:31

The Cologne Düsseldorf (NRW) area clubs have always tended to be cheaper.

entrance is usually 50€ max, in Frankfurt 65€

In NRW the second half hour tends to be 25€ whereas in FFM it is 50€

In NRW most add ons are 25€ and Anal is 50€, in FFM Add ons are 50€ and Anal is 100-200€.

Other than the normal sex and Blowjob thing there is no compulsion for girls to offer extra services. If you are looking for something like Anal, make sure to ask whether there are any girls in the lcub offering it befroe you go - there it is best to call in advance.

Anal is something only about 30% of the women even have on offer, I would say tendence is less in NRW, maybe because they only get 50€ extra.

It used to be said that lcub standard included Kissing, BBBJ and covered sex, but there are girls who don't kiss (and having smelled many mongers breath and seen their dental work I can understand why) and even some who only do covered BJ's, but they usually will tell you this before going to a room.

Jackyo

05-08-06, 00:17

I see people mentioning 25 euros extra for cim. I thought this was 50 euros extra everywhere. Is it less expensive in the clubs around Koln and Dusseldorf like GT, PHG, Wildenrath, Bernd's, Sudbad, Yin Yang ...

My understanding is that CIM is standard at Bernds and there is no Aufpreis to pay.

I was once traveled with Mark, a Canadian from Toronto. He had written me e-mail saying he wanted to sample the scene and we got together to share travel expenses (car and gasoline).

We visited Bernds where he went to the room with Aylin. He thought he owed her money for CIM but she assured him it was all inclusive and he owed nothing more.

Talk about a commitment to service.

I don't believe there are any other clubs out there where this extra is considered standard.

I've heard that other extras are standard at this club. I am extremely conventional though and have never asked what those extras are. It would be pure speculation on my part to say more.

I should note, however, that Bernds tends towards premium pricing. The new entry fees are amongst the steepest at 70 euros but I think the quality of the food makes up for it.

Peter

05-08-06, 07:57

I know for a while it was inclusive in the Babylon price of 80€ for the first room and 65€ for additional rooms.

At Bernds, if the girl offers CIM, then it is included in the price.

But the new pricing at Bernd's is great for people who like more than one room. Now it is 70€ entrance, but the rooms are only 50€, and if you take into account that couch action is included, plus the rooms can go up to about the 45 minute mark plus if you like CIM it can be included (if the girl has it in her repertoire) then it becomes a really good deal on the second or third room.

And the food really is good.

Xavier Yves

05-08-06, 16:47

Bonjour Xavier Yves!

In this club (as in a couple of other FKK clubs which come to mind), people watching is part of the soi-disant menu for the day, facilitated by the girls getting up now and again and providing eye candy.

There is no one place to sit to get an overview.. but this may be intentional as you need to get up every now and then to move around if you want to assess the talent - so you get up to get a drink or go to the bathroom, etc..

I always think of it as kind of sitting in a jungle and watching the animals stalking their prey. ........

Salut Jackyo,

Well, I do agree with your comments regarding club culture. But what I mean is that they should build a big bar with lots of chairs at a good view sight. So the guys can observe the girls very easily while drinking.

Anyway, I don't like just sitting in a corner of the room which makes me very difficult to see and talk to girls.

Xavier Yves

05-08-06, 16:47

Peter

05-08-06, 21:11

Xavier,

First of all I was pretty damn specific! 50€ at Bernds is for a single session with a girl. This basically entails some couch action and a reasonable time in the room anywhere near 30 minutes (can often be up to about 40-45 minutes). BHasically as long as it takes for you to cum (so if you cum 2 or 3 times and go for 45 minutes expect it to DEFINITELY count as 2 rooms).

If the girl has CIM in her repertoir - that means if she offers it as a service ( but not all girls who work there do) . then it is included in the 50€ room charge. Again, not all women offer CIM, and the session going overtime without strict adherence to the clock are not givens. They belong to the clubs credo of good service. But if you expect it or demand it don't expect if they treat you poorly, because to be honest, bastards like that deserve to be treated badly. I hate guys who try to cheat the women, or get all they can out of the deal. Treat the girls as you want to be treated.

But yes, if the girl offers CIM and you do CIM in Bernds, as part of a normal session of around 30 minutes then you will see a bill of only 50€. Is that specific enough?

And building a big bar where you can see everyone is exactly what PHG has, and it doesn't have a great atmosphere.

For what you want you might like Traumparadies (http://www.traum-paradies.de/die%20maedels%201.htm´) in Cologne. It is an appartment, not a club. But there the girls are all called into a room when you enter and you can see them all like a cattle call. If that is what you want go for that. Cocoon has its own atmosphere and it is sort of nice to need to walk around and discover a stunner lounging in a corner.

Catalyst

05-09-06, 01:08

Seems to be that way... Question is do all girls offer this?

Golden Time, Samya
Extras: 25 € FT, 50 € Anal

Fkk Cocoon, Heavensgate
Extras: 10 € FO, 25 € FT

Planet Happy Garden (25 for FO due to low 30 minute rate of 25€)
Extras: 25 € FO, 25 € CIM, 50 € Anal
Thanks for the info. Sorry for so many questions. Is FT different from cim? (FT includes swallowing maybe?). What is FO?

Jackyo

05-09-06, 03:56

Thanks for the info. Sorry for so many questions. Is FT different from cim? (FT includes swallowing maybe?). What is FO?

FT is Fransoezisch Total or CIM or BBBJTC. It doesn't imply swallowing necessarily.

FO is Fransoezisch Ohne or literally French without.. in other words, BBBJ as opposed to a covered BJ.

Breadman

05-10-06, 02:05

As I was getting changed when I was about to leave Susanna was having an argument with a guest who has just had a session with her. The session was for 90 minutes and Susanna was saying that the cost was €125 (i.e. €50 for the first 30 mins then €25 for the next 30 mins and then €50 for the final 30 mins).

Its been confirmed by the Samya management...the third 30 minute booking indeed is 50 euro's. So Susanna was correct and the gentleman in question paid the correct amount.

Scarpone

05-10-06, 08:48

I am heading to ColA in the weekend, anybody could tell me how is the club lately? Any girl suggested or to avoid? (my first time there).

Thank you

Wanking

05-11-06, 21:37

what is the price structure with the girls in FKK Heavens gate??

thanks
Fred.

Euro100

05-11-06, 22:04

I am heading to ColA in the weekend, anybody could tell me how is the club lately? Any girl suggested or to avoid? (my first time there).

Thank you

I was there in January; here is the post:

http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=429718&postcount=635

Fly Bob

05-11-06, 22:07

what is the price structure with the girls in FKK Heavens gate??

thanks
Fred.

The entry is 25 euro for happy hour and 35 eruo otherwise. The web site has the times for happy hour.

The girls are 25 euro for CBJ + FS and 35 euro for BBBJ + FS. This is for a 20 minutes session so watch the time. The add on time is the same pricing. You pay the girl at the front entry where the small lockers are located. I have not had any of the girls complain about the cheaper session. Service has always been good. Enjoy.

Bob

Wanking

05-11-06, 22:18

Thanks Flybob,

http://www.fkk-heavensgate.de/seite/index.php?action=ambiente shows girls sunbathing in the Garden. Does this happen or was it just for the website??

Xavier Yves

05-11-06, 23:04

The entry is 25 euro for happy hour and 35 eruo otherwise. The web site has the times for happy hour.

The girls are 25 euro for CBJ + FS and 35 euro for BBBJ + FS. This is for a 20 minutes session so watch the time. The add on time is the same pricing. You pay the girl at the front entry where the small lockers are located. I have not had any of the girls complain about the cheaper session. Service has always been good. Enjoy.

Bob

i don't believe service is same. 20 mins session normally only allows you less than 3 positions, depending on girls. this is my experience at heavensgate and cocoon

Wanking

05-11-06, 23:29

Any other clubs in the Dorsten area that i should know about??

apart from partytreff dorsten and fkk heavensgate.

Jackyo

05-11-06, 23:57

Any other clubs in the Dorsten area that i should know about??

apart from partytreff dorsten and fkk heavensgate.

The only ones I can think about in that area are Red Carpet Clubs.

Warsteiner

05-12-06, 20:13

http://www.fkk-heavensgate.de/seite/index.php?action=ambiente shows girls sunbathing in the Garden. Does this happen or was it just for the website??

I don't know about Heavens Gate but I spent a few days at Oase a couple of years ago during the Summer and the women spent most of the day outside chatting a sun bathing and didn't put any pressure on the men to go to the rooms as they were enjoying themselves so much.

The manager(?) came around to all of them and said that after the food was served they would have to stay indoors and after a couple of days there it seemed that the day shoft would arrive at about 11am, spend most of the day chatting amongst themselves/sun bathing and then from 5pm onwards start to look for work.

Accoding to one of the German boards there are quite a few women at GT who spend time outdoors and even have sessions outdoors although they do have double sunloungers there so it makes it a bit easier.

Mike De H

05-12-06, 23:22

accoding to one of the german boards there are quite a few women at gt who spend time outdoors and even have sessions outdoors although they do have double sunloungers there so it makes it a bit easier.

yes, they hang around in groups and itshard to peel off the one you want.

a bit later they get serious about it.

it can be a bit annoying in the sun at gt, but the outside tents are great for the voyeurs and exhibitionists

Shark16

05-12-06, 23:59

I spent last weekend at Oase. Beautiful summer had arrived, 22- 24 degrees in the air, clear blue sky, naked girls all around me. It was a day to remember. I spent much of the time outside. Here a few details so you get the idea:

I would say that generally speaking 5- 10 girls were laying naked in the sun outside (the rest were inside) - and approx. the same number of men. In addition, food was served in the outside, meaning that there were some traffic of men and women coming from inside and walking to and from the little outside "restaurant". Most girls on this "catwalk in the sun" were naked of course, except for those high, high heels. I get hungry just thinking about it.

There were absolutely no problems getting in contact with the girls. Invitations were given to the men every once in a while, but I would not say I felt pressure, i.e. most girls would invite you, but would leave you alone if you turned their offer down.

An example: I was laying on my back in one of the chairs outside, moved over to my stomach, just to see that one of the girls had moved over to the chair right behind me, two meters away, buck naked, wetting her voluptous pussy lips with some water from her drink. Add to that glistening sight direct eye contact and a wicked little smile. I really didn't mind, I swear!!!

Another example for the voyeurs: One of the Oase girls was giving one of the guys a tremendous blowjob outside in the middle of the crowd. He, laying on his back in the chair. She, sitting in front of him between his legs. The girl really showed off her skills. What an amazing BBBJ! Then, she slowly positioned herself around him - not losing her lips around his dick one second - into a perfect 69. He did not last long. It was quite a show. A may I add: Quite a marketing job by the girl.

And of course, Oase has the "watchtower", a little "hut" or love nest 4- 5 meters above the ground. On this sunny day, it was almost constantly occupied by couples. The hut gives some kind of privacy, except for the opening (no doors) which can be seen by the outside jacuzzi. And then you have the noises from the nest of course.

Aaah, what a weekend it was.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.

Captain America

05-14-06, 21:35

WSent there last week early (10am) and stayed until 4pm. Expected something like the other red carpet clubs, but this was pretty sad. 4 girls to start, fortunaterly one of them was a 6, so we had an o.k. session, then had to wait until after lunch for another 6 to show up., She was no model for sure but I do have to recommend the chattiness and attitude of Olga (Olga from the Wolga). Plus, she knew her techniques, so all in all very enjoyable. Waited a couple more hours and split when nothing else came in. Damages were low due to the free entry before lunch, but I'll rather pay full entry and have some girls to choose from.

Alberto1972

05-17-06, 20:48

FKKguide

05-18-06, 10:36

Hallo,

I went there for the first time. NEVER AGAIN. Tha place is not very clean and there you can find 10 girls 8 very hugly and 2 just normal like 6. So I put I the bin 50 euro and 200 km. But his is life

Hope that will help somebody to save money.

AlbertoSorry you disliked FKK Pascha. It's getting mixed reviews, as I wrote elsewhere. This is only a FKK club of last resort after all the others close. Better try the girls in the rooms downstairs.

Best FKK in Koeln or maybe all Germany/Europe (by mongers opinion, see the ISG, WSG and the German fori) is "Samya", 4 km S of there in Koeln Rodenkirchen Kirschbaumweg (U-Bahn 16 to Michaelshoven).

Next time consult a local: I'll be back in Germany for the FIFA-WC with a group of fans and have capacities free before June 23 (Cologne, Bonn, Duesseldorf, Aachen, Frankfurt) and after July 9 (Berlin, Hannover and points west). http://fkkguide.cyberfreehost.com

Wanking

05-18-06, 11:48

Does Heavensgate have beer??

Member #1006

05-19-06, 08:20

I went to GT on wednesday... it was exactly as I remembered!
I arrived quite early, around 12.15, but there were already a dozen of girls, most of them having breakfast, coffee, yogurt and croissant...
Among them the most beautiful girl I have ever seen in a FKK, blonde, 1.75, blue eyes, very slim, nice breasts and superb ass...
My only regret is not to choose her immediatly upon my arrival: she has been busy all day long and later on I never had the chance to talk to her a second!!!

Anyway I had 4 sessions:
1. A bulgarian girl - don't remember her name. 28, 1.70, super breasts that she kept showing around all the time... no bra :-)
Normal experience, FK, BBJ and straight sex... it was my first session, the "warm up" lap... :-)

2. Esperanza from paraguay, 22, 1.80. A wonderful body, and a very nice face, super smile.. Looks like Whitney Houston at the beginning of her career...
FK, DATY, BBJ and straight...

3. Anna (?) - german girl, brown hairs, 24. very sweet and nice, very good massage and BBJ that I completed with a CIM... has piercing on the tongue that brought me to heaven...

4. Melissa - polish/german, blonde, 23. Her body rocks, a wondferful ass... and she provides the best A-level I had in a long time... Being my fourth session, added with V vitamin, I pounded her little and tonic ass for a looong time... on her suggestion! and she wanted for more... she says she preferes 10 times anal to normal sex... Me too, I replied!!

As a general note, it was sunny and warm... many times during the day some girls were entertaining clients on the sofas in the large garden.... nice view, and a good marketing for the girls... ;-)

I'll be back to GT very soon, I think....

Travelforfun

05-19-06, 11:12

Blue Note Revisted:

The club is small and 3 semi coverd rooms has 2 pvt rooms with doors, although 1 is used as the massage room and is big and spacious the other in the corner is a small room with shower and a small bed ,3some there would not be a good idea.

The place Rocks on any given day or time. The girls are not pushy and will not approach you at any given time so if you are shy and hesitant to approach them you might just come back to your hotel with a stiffy.

Last month i was luckily in dusseldorf for longer than i anticipated , got the weekend off and on May day i decided to stay back as i found a early morning connection for tuesday for my meetings in Netherlands.

I had planned to visit other clubs during the 3 days but by the end of it i always went back to Bluenote.There was always some hottie walking in as i went out and i thought " Damn , what better will any other club have".

In the 3 visits i tried practically all the girls there , unluckily my favourite masseusse Ellette was not there twice and the 3rd day she was filling in for Bianca ( the owner) so was not offering services.

Each time i stayed there for over 6 hrs and had a great time, it is so relaxing when you can have a long break between the sessions , eat , smoke and enjoy the coffee.I think they found a good bakery to supply them the cakes now , coz it was delicious.

Had Sessions with my regular Nicole , on the 3rd day she saw my desparation for a massage and gave me one for free(2nd session with her).

The brunette Christina (russian) was a hottie with pornstar tits and super cute face, she gave a massage and a bbbj as well.No fucks but only $30 for the session as well , i came all over her tits and face.

Cerqira the famous hottie from portugal finally drained out every drop left .Excellent BBBJ and she can ride you for eternity.

Sarah was cute, all smiles but i could'nt manage to cum, i guess the room(Small corner room , with bright lights put me off a little).

Olga...OMG she's hard to describe , probebly the best session i've had in a while.Total GFE , she literally FUCKED me with her mouth , ive never seen a head go up and down so furiously over my cock.
She laid with me for a long time after the beautiful session , she works only a few days so u'll be lucky to catch up with her if u visit. Can't miss her , big tits and a smiling face.

The last was a german brunette i forget the name. She's always there without her panties.She went ga-ga over the ass rimming i gave her and her eyes literally rolled out , she let me finger her ass and infact when i took my thumb out she looked back with a "Wats wrong" kinda look.

Awesome end to the session , i could'nt even think of going elsewhere after that. On the last day i was in dusseldorf again , reached at 11.00 pm and the flight was next morning 5.30 so saved my hotel money , kept my stuff at HBF locker and headed for a internet cafe. At about 2.00 they closed so took a walk to Bahndam just to kill some time.

After all the good times at bluenote nothing seemed to fit my taste , must have talked to about 5 girls but nothing , then on the 2nd floor the curtains opened and i barely saw a brunette smoking , she seemed liked the one and without wasting anytime i was rushing up again to room 28.

There she was the most nubile and cutest Eastern European girl you can even lay your hands upon , marijana from Slovenia. Damn was she cute, to me she looked below 18 but im sure they have somekinda ID for girls who work there and maybe she was 19 or 20.

I did'nt understand a word she said but with my deaf-dumb act i understood she came here a week ago , things could'nt get any luckier.

Covered BJ , being new and young she was in no rush and i literally had to tap her head and tell her to stop for a fuck. Missionary first , she probebly did'nt like my cigarette breath( Peace people , i forgot to carry the mints ;) ) and was turning her face sideways so we switched to doggie.

Her long black hair were enough to get me going and i finished in no time.
Some idiot was already at the door knocking so she yelled back "BUSYYY" and asked me to sit till she finisned another smoke.

Overall $30 well spent and time usefully killed.

I miss dusseldorf already.

Wanking

05-19-06, 14:34

trying to get to Golden time by train from Dusseldorf HBF

I tried using http://www.vrr.de/en/fahrplanauskunft/index.html

and from Dusseldorf hbf

to Heidweg 1
41379 Brüggen

but I cant get it to work out, maybe someone else can???

thanks

Fred

Rain City

05-20-06, 01:50

Fred,

When I visited GT, I took a train from Cologne to Monchengladbach, then to Boischem. Took a taxi from Boischem to GT -- 15 euro. So you can go through the same route: Dusseldorf/Monchengladbach/Boischem. Be aware that there is no taxi at Boischem train station. I walked a few hundred meters and found a restaurant. I had lunch there and asked them to call a taxi for me to Bruggen.

RC

Dennismoore

05-20-06, 16:56

Does Heavensgate have beer??Yep, Warsteiner and Veltins (33 cl. bottles, no draft) for 4 euro/ bottle.

Breadman

05-22-06, 11:02

Visited heavensgate yesterday with the plan to hit this club first and then move down the road 1 mile to the dorsten partytreff. Didnt make the partytreff...heavensgate had too many good lookers and i enjoyed the atmosphere of this club. Beer is 4 euros a pop though, but with the low happy hour admission you can pay for a couple and figure its not that bad a deal. Club has two lockers for you to use, one downstairs and another up near the entrance for valuables and cash for when you pay the girls after each booking.

Food was decent but ive had better...of coarse ive had much worse. Setup of the club is very nice, several areas...some dark and inviting, others lit up with the sun shinning thru the windows. So if you feel the need for some sun and some fresh air you dont have to go outside (they prop open the windows occasionally)...although they do have an outdoor pool with lawn chairs. I did notice that the girls tended to ignore you a bit...sorta on the cool side, especially after a booking. I did 5 while there...and repeated with two who remained friendly after the first bookings.

Tonya was the first...great looks, small a tits with long nipples. nice body but the service suffered. a poor overall performance.

Stella...nice body, good size b tits and a cute face. alot of action, great bbbj.

Victoria...blonde with a killer body. Service was great, tounge stud and knows how to use it. Was a bit cool for the first booking but she opened up the second go around.

Olga...nice looking brunette with a nice build...cute face...but service suffered a bit. maybe a bit too young to know what to do...or just doesnt feel like performing.

Tyra...a Hotty. brunette with small b tits but everything else was flawluss. she is smoking and knows how to performe. one of the best looking pussies ive ever seen. kissing, fingers...pretty much open to anything within reason. went with her twice and might have to head back before i leave to see her again.

Wanking

05-22-06, 20:10

excellent stuff Breadman...

Fly Bob

05-24-06, 05:54

Anyone been here since they opened? What is the place like? Service? Food? Parking?

Also, is this connected to FKK World?

Bob

Hooters For Ever

05-27-06, 20:05

I was on a business trip in Germany in the Munich area and decided to go to Colloseum Augsburg. With satelite navigation it was easy to find. Entrance is Euro 60. No alcoholic drinks.

The club was clean and seemed like a 'hamam'. Just one big hall besides the rooms. There were about 20 girls. All of them in between 7 and 9.

First I talked to a German blonde, pretty good looking, tall, firm b cups but no chemistry! Seemed too professional. Right after I ran into Laura from Czech Republic. Great firm body, light natural blonde and my feelings were right. Great BBBJ, DFK and GFE. Highly recommended! I could have done here easily 2 times without break but did not want to invest another 50 Euros.

I will definetly come back once I am in Germany again.

Happy Hunting!

Breadman

05-28-06, 23:51

Visited Samya after parting ways with Jackyo on the Bernds run. Ended up heading back south to see how the talent was since their website listed alot of talent would be present. They did have a nice amount of talent, possibly 20 or so...but most just didnt do it for the breadman. Only one that really caught my eye and 'other' body parts was Honey. Gorgeous blonde with a killer body. Had two sessions with her...the last being 'out of this world'. Not just for me, also for her.

Other than that i found the talent lacking...too many bleached blondes that must all do each others hair using the same gallon of bleach to make their hair pure white. Not attractive.

Jackyo

05-29-06, 13:59

I've had reasonably good experiences at this club, in fact had entertained plans of visiting it twice during my weeks stay in D'land.

Got there early on a Thursday, went through my usual routine and went upstairs to check out the talent.

Not much going but it was still early so I kind of hung around on the couches, standing up to get a drink of O-saft or Cola every now and then. I didn't really recognize anyone from previous visits, but wasn't particularly in a hurry since I had plans of investing a whole day there.

What intrigued me were the three or four girls who hung out at the bar area, who seemed to have no interest in coming out to the couches.

So I decide to hang out where they hang out on the Barhocker just to get a better assessment of the talent.

They seemed reasonably friendly, some made eye contact, one even wanted to make conversation in English.

But it was the tall German blonde who had my attention and so when I decided to make my move I went straight to her.

Off we went to a room.

In thirty seconds I knew I'd made a mistake.

She plopped herself down on the bed and turned into a limp rag doll.

I am into foreplay but she had no interest in doing any of that. I said to myself: maybe she will warm up to me and that maybe I should just stick to it.

What followed was the worst session I've ever had anywhere (and I've been to probably thirty of these clubs and met several hundred of these women).

Every time I made a move she said it would cost extra. It would cost extra for me to go down on her, extra to finger her, extra even to change positions.

I quickly lost interest. It was like dealing with someone at the Amsterdam RLD where every move she makes translates into a surcharge.

I felt obliged to come just to get away from her and I did. It was very unsatisfying.

I went back upstairs and was convinced I was going to be ripped off when I settled my bill as it would be my word against hers.

I had some of their soup and thought about what I was going to do next.

I watched how she dealt with customers and decided it wasn't only me. She had almost no interaction with the customers even when she spent time on the couches with them. I timed a couple of her sessions and she was back very quickly after each one.

I was so pissed off, I decided to leave saying I'd do better at PT Mettmann (at least it was a sure thing).

To be fair, it turns out that her billing was fair and all of the surcharges she threatened to bill me weren't actually billed but it did leave a very sour taste in my mouth and I didn't return to the club for a second visit during my stay as I had originally planned.

So beware: this can happen to you too. Check out your chemistry with her before you commit! This is, I think, the moral behind this story.

I don't like writing negative reviews but if you are definitely going to Cocoon and want her name, you can PM me.

Wanking

05-29-06, 14:13

Jackyo

05-29-06, 14:41

Jackyo that was a bummer mate,(good report though)

I found the 3 girls I was with gave good service when I was there a month ago. But as we know there can be bad eggs in every group. I remember talking to a greek guy there who is a regular, and he says the Polish girls give far better service than the Germans in this club.

Why didnt you complain?? arent DATY, and multi positions included in the standard service?? Also what price did you initially agree on? €25,€35,€50,€70??

The Greek guy also told me that the some of the german girls see €25 as an insult, but that Polish are still happy with it ( a couple of days pay in Poland)

Hey WK,

I told her from the start I was going to do a double session with her just so she didn't think I was being cheap so I was really turned off when she would say every now and then: "This will cost you extra. That will cost you extra."

It really got on my nerves and as you can imagine, it kills the mood very quickly.

For some reason the Polish contingent was near absent on the day I was there.

I've also had great experiences with German women there: Eve and Anja come to mind. None of them were to be seen though. Then there was Melek, a Turkish blonde. And a darkhaired Ruhrpottmaedel (her name escapes me right now), and a Slovakian blonde and then Katja, a German redhead who I remember very well because she was interested in dissections (by this I mean dissecting corpses - she wanted to work in a mortuary)...

I have had mostly good experiences at this club but an experience like this makes one a little wary and puts one on his guard.

Eve said last January she would be studying for her Abi in May and we would not see each other when I returned. I had a great time with her, she's a great conversationalist, loves her work and enjoys herself while doing it.

You read articles about how geisha were not just trained in how to please men but also had to know how to hold up their end of a conversation. It doesn't get much better than Eve, IMHO.

Later,

Mike De H

05-29-06, 18:06

It really got on my nerves and as you can imagine, it kills the mood very quickly.

I always pay most attention to the bad service posts beause I strongly believe that we (most of us) have to work damned hard for a long time to friter away our money in a comparative instant on these girls.

As a result I am a strong believer in good service. You pay top professional rates so you should get top profesional services.

I hope you made it clear to her she was sub standard and repeat business not possible. Often a quick word to management on the way out will help. If they don't get told they don't know. Or an email afterwards.

Incidentally, I would not restrict her name to PM, there I would depart from you - lurkers also need to know, if not the World, if its true, then post it. Descriptions, name and all.

But - thats personal choice and I respect yours. Better luck next time fellow punter.

Breadman

05-29-06, 18:13

Last club of the trip was Goldentime. Heard favorable things on this club but their website for some reason doesn’t allow entry into the gallery section. Only pictures I found came from a French msn website. Club looks big enough on the pics so figured id check it out. Gps took me right to the front door, without it I would have driven right by the little dead end side street. Later on found a nice motel about 2 miles down the road, 6 euro cab ride if one’s planning to drink too much. No big signs outside announcing goldentime…but the front of the building was pictured on the French website, so I knew I was at the right place. Parked the car, hit the buzzer and got buzzed in. First thing you notice is a large locker room area to your left. Paid my admission and got a robe and an wrist strap attached to my wrist…had to figure out how to use it to lock/unlock the lockers since it didn’t have a key. Got undressed and put on the robe and went to hit the showers…and found three of the four spaces being used by some hot naked women. So whats breadman to do but join in the fun…always like group activities. Rates at this club are pretty decent…50 for a half hour, 25 more for the next half hour. Bbbj, daty, kissing being a given. Some girls allow fingering, deep French kissing and cim (extra charge of 25). Only a handful offer greek (50 extra). Once the euro gets a bit back in line with the us dollar the fkk scene will be too hot to pass up.

Should describe the club a bit…its like a large ‘O’ with the sauna/hot tub/outdoor shower in the middle of the ‘O’. This area isn’t truly outdoors but is covered by glass. Id imagine even in winter this area is nice and warm, seeing that the sauna puts out so much heat. They’ve also got a bunch of live tree’s planted to give the area a bit of green. Made it out to the main bar/room area and saw about 12 women sitting around…about 5 of which made the breadmans list. This area consists of a dozen or more couch’s and a bar area that sits about 20. Around the bar area is a small shelf that has another 40 or so barstools (I later found out that these are used by the girls to advertise themselves). Made myself something to eat…very nice selection of lunch meat/cheeses, cereal, yogurt, bread…later on they brought out some desert snacks with dinne, soup and pizza later on in the night. Only negative was the lineup of for food once dinner was served…once its done its done. If your in a room when dinner is served your out of luck. Im not positive but I heard the club allows you to leave and re-enter…so running out to grab dinner if you wanted something different would work out well. What really impressed me about this club was the service and friendliness of the bar staff. Super quick with getting you anything you wanted to drink…but also super quick of grabbing any drink that looks like its been left by a monger. Had several half drank beers dissapear on me several times…but they’re free so I just grabbed a fresh one. There’s also a large outdoor area with outdoor seating…and by large I mean two football fields worth of space or more. They even set up tents outside in the summer so you don’t have to take the girl inside to try her out. And if outdoor open fun is what your looking for they have a bed setup outside right in the open. If open indoor fun is what you want, they have a cinema playing porno where you can enjoy the girls right in front of everyone. They also have over 30 private rooms inside and out.

So im sitting around and making my ‘list’…took one to the room and walk back thru the main room with the young lady to pay her in the locker room only to find another half dozen have shown up and have to add 4 more to my list. Take a shower and head back to grab a much needed beer to cool down…and find another 3 are now in the room. Add 2 more to the list. By 4pm my list has grown into double digits. Now it was time for some editing of the list…this one off cause I didn’t like her hair, this one cause she might be covering up something with her top…etc, etc. By 8pm even after editing, the new girls who showed up tripled the list again. One night I counted over 30 girls in the main room alone, not counting the girls in the 30 rooms or those in the cinema or in the indoor hot tub/sauna area. Girls ranged from a couple of 5’s, a handful of 6’s, a bunch of 7’s, more than a dozen of 8’s, another dozen of 9’s and a handful of 10’s. I probably sampled over 20 at this club…with only 2 repeats…and didn’t get to try out the other 30 that made it on my list. At some clubs you have to be very careful with the time you spend in the room…if you go over by 5 minutes the girl will charge you for the next time. At this club I never had any trouble. Girls would always tell you your time was running short…if the chemistry was great id just add on an extra half hour for 25 more.

Now onto the girls and the action…forget the names of most, just too many to try to remember but will try my best.

Gina…hot brunette. 22years old 5’4, 105 lbs, A cup long brunette hair to her amazing ass. Some freckles that made her look even hotter. Booked her twice on this trip…second time kept her for an hour and spent 20 minutes going down on her…and from her reaction it was time well spent. Used up the rest of the hour on non stop action. 10 out of 10.

Left the room with Gina, grabbed a shower and spotted another hot brunette…Romanian girl named Mona? 5’4, 105 34c’s, great ass, silky black hair mid shoulder. Although little breadman was tired I new if I didn’t jump I wouldn’t see her for the rest of the night. Made my move and got her into a room asap. She fell in love with little breadmans size and immediately started to deepthroat him all the way down. Only got a couple minutes of action in and decided to have her continue with more deep throat action. 9 out of 10.

Young 19 year old blonde with shoulder length hair, great set of natural C’s, perfect ass, freckled face…a 9 out of 10 when she’s naked. Awsome action in the room, only girl to charge me the extra rate of 25 since we went 15 minutes past the half hour mark…she couldn’t tell me while she was sucking off little breadman.

Tiny little asian flower named Poe from Tailand. 9 out of 10. Only 4’10 at most. Tiny b’s, great little ass…cute as a button. Silky black hair just past her shoulders. Bit too tiny for me but just had to have her.

Had a Blonde approach me and say “ive been told you have a large dick. I love large dicks and you can put it in my ass if you want”. Went with her for an hour. 10 out of 10. She was smoking hot. Athletic body, ass to die for, great looking b tits, awesome legs, great looking pussy…and an asshole that took all of little breadman without complaint. 50 extra for greek plus 25 extra for the next half hour….time well spent.

Brunette with dark tan complection…hair past her ass. 5’7, 120lbs Large C cups and a great ass. Bright red lipstick that set off the dark complection and really looked great wrapped around little breadman. 9.5 out of 10.

Brunette with blonde hightlights…kept making eye contact and smiling every time I looked her way. She hid her body under a semi see thru outfit but I could tell by the legs and the ass that it would be sweet. 10 out of 10. She has the looks to be a model if she wants. Awsome service, sweet girl. One night I saw her go outside to sit alone away from everyone on the outdoor couch’s. So I went over and gave her a backrub for almost an hour. Nothing like being cuddled up on a couch with a hot chick in the cool night air under a blanket. Next day did another half hour with her that was more open than the first visit.

Tiny little Italian princess…5’1, 100 soaking wet but with a hell of a body. Bit too much makeup on but a performer in the room. 9 out of 10. Nothing like doing a girl doggy style and having two full length mirrors a foot from the bed to get a good look at the action from different views.

Nice little Turkish girl…5’4, nice little b’s that looked larger under her top. Great ass, great service and a very striking look to her. Im sure she’s the one who spread the news of little breadmans size. 8 out of 10

Lannie Barbie look alike…HOT brunette, 5’4 34c bullet tits, great ass, pierced tounge and clit, amazing light blue eyes. Loved to slap my dick against her face while looking at it in the mirror. Porn style experience. 10 out of 10

Did Lannies friend, greek girl with an amazing set of large pointy C’s. Rooms all got full so we did it outside on a lawn chair. Not recommended…needed one of the double lawn chairs to do any types of positions without falling off. 9 out of 10.

Another Romanian…friends of the first. Cute girl next door brunette. Very nice slim look with all the right curves. Was watching her for a couple of hours but didn’t know if the curves got held in place so to speak by the dress she was wearing. But out she came later on in the night showing off some spectacular natural C’s for her small frame. Just had to have her. Great performer, some cute girl next door looks with a killer body. 8.5 out of 10.

There where more…but honestly there was just too much going on to be able to put it all down on paper. Ran across groups of guys from Belgium, Holland and Germany…plus some from the US who made me welcome into their groups between sessions. Sitting around between outings with the girls bullshitting about clubs, girls or whatever topic came along was interesting in itself.

Apologize for forgetting the names, planned on bringing out pen and paper but thought that might not look so good writing down names etc.

SX Lover

05-29-06, 19:04

Can someone provide train directions from Düsseldorf to Goldentime as I don't drive in Germany.

Thanks

Henio

05-29-06, 21:06

I can visualize a casting meeting of the next X-Men: "ok, we have the Wolverine who possesses animal-keen senses and reflexes and we have also casted the Colossus who posseses the ability to transform into steel. What we really need now is a mutant with the ultimate superhuman ability; someone who can fuck 20 girls in couple of days. How about this guy Breadman?"

Nice report btw, looks like you had a blast at GT.

Chivaz

Dubdub32

05-29-06, 21:15

I am a new member to this forum, basically I would like information on German FKK clubs. I have 1 weeks holiday which I would like to take in Germany

I want it easy (I am aBeginner after all). I would like someone to recommend a Hotel (and City) as close as possible to an FKK club, If possible can you provide rates etc - I am thinking of going during the world cup, So I would like recommendations away from the football - Dubdub32

Breadman

05-30-06, 00:53

revisited samya and had a couple of visits with a hotty named honey. first booking was just so-so...her bbbj had a bit too much tooth to it and i swore she was going to rub little breadman's head raw. then the thought goes thru my mind...if she does and does damage to it, this entire trip will be wasted right then and there. so little breadman does the smart thing and plays dead. getting 50 bucks worth and risking the rest of the trip...or loosing 50 bucks and surviving to fuck another day ...gotto go with survival on this one.

ohhh sorry honey...must be jet lag. not your fault.

later on though little breadman starts to get horney again...and striking up a conversation with honey at the bar he decides its worth another shot. figure as long as he keeps the bbbj to a minimum and just gets onto the action everything is going to ok.

action starts...bbbj starts getting toothy again so directs honey to check out little breadman's suitcases. she licks them up pretty good until little breadman is ready to rock and roll...so he puts on his good suit and goes to town. tight little package is honey, 5'5 long blonde hair and an ass to die for. starts with all the positions and finally settles in for some good old doggy style. figure has to make up for lost action for the first session anyway.

so after the doggy style things get mighty interesting. now its time for breadman's signature position...honey on her stomach and breadman on top. then comes the action that's hard to describe...sorta like doing a pushup and allowing oneself to freefall down to the bed. allowing little breadman to almost make it out of honey. did this for a couple of strokes and then asked (as a gentleman always should) if this was hurting her. no is the answer so back onto the ride we go. little bit more speed and now she's grabbing the metal bars of the bed and screaming at the top of her lungs. so once again...stop and make sure everythings fine. she says 'that feels great'...so switched on the ride to full speed. did this for a couple minutes but no screaming this time around...then all of a sudden she twists around and uses her nails to make a point that she has to stop the ride now.

so im thinking...must have hurt her until i notice her face is beet red, her breathing is all flustered and she looks at me and says "i think i just came. ive never come before, dont know what its like. i think i blacked out for a second"...all in one breath.

afterwards i pointed out the scratch marks she left behind...something to remember the occasion i guess

Jackyo

05-30-06, 01:20

Can someone provide train directions from Düsseldorf to Goldentime as I don't drive in Germany.

Thanks

www.rheinbahn.de is the website of the local transportation authority.

I've not had much success with it though. I type in "Brueggen" as a destination and its giving me a town near the Swiss border, something like five hours away.

Jackyo

05-30-06, 01:47

.. are very low.

The FKK scene is concentrated in NRW (Nordrhein Westfalen) and Hessen.

Football games are taking place in Gelsenkirchen, Dortmund and Koeln in NRW and in Frankfurt in Hessen.

Better to just stay away during the month of June.

I am a new member to this forum, basically I would like information on German FKK clubs. I have 1 weeks holiday which I would like to take in Germany

I want it easy (I am aBeginner after all). I would like someone to recommend a Hotel (and City) as close as possible to an FKK club, If possible can you provide rates etc - I am thinking of going during the world cup, So I would like recommendations away from the football - Dubdub32

Euro100

05-30-06, 03:03

.. are very low.

The scene is concentrated in NRW (Nordrhein Westfalen) and Hessen.

Football games are taking place in Gelsenkirchen, Dortmund and Koeln in NRW and in Frankfurt in Hessen.

Better to just stay away during the month of June.

I respectfully disagree. Yes, the inner city RLDs will be a zoo. Yes, Palace in FFM will be like it is during the Messe. Other FKKS in the World Cup cities will be very busy. BUT I would guess that the places that are a bit further out of the way are going to be just fine. ColA, for example, is in Augsburg and sufficiently far away from Munich that I expect it to be not overrun. FKKW is not reachable by train, which is the preferred mode of transportation with the average soccer fan.

Keeping in mind that most providers know that there will be lots of extra men with lots of cash on their hands, I expect that lots of girls will report to duty in the FKKs. So I anticipate excellent selection.

I will put my money where my mouth is and report to duty at FKKW next week :)

euro

Jackyo

05-30-06, 09:51

BUT I would guess that the places that are a bit further out of the way are going to be just fine. ColA, for example, is in Augsburg and sufficiently far away from Munich that I expect it to be not overrun.

I have to admit I don't know anything about the clubs in Bayern but my understanding is that Bayern in general is "tote Hose". Supposedly what is there is not to the same standards as further north and also higher priced.

FKKW is not reachable by train, which is the preferred mode of transportation with the average soccer fan.

I have looked into the possiblity of getting to World via public transportation and according to the DB website, there is a train station at Garbenteich, a taxi ride away from World. Trains from the airport will take about 1:20 minutes to get there and you will have to change trains twice.

Not to forget that if you travel during this time you will be competing for hotel rooms, etc.. Word is that room rates will be higher.

True, the selection will supposedly be better but there will be more customers too. And with the authorities already running police raids in preparation for the WM (the World Cup), there is a chance of non-optimal conditions.

Peter

05-30-06, 14:02

Chances are the hotels won't be that much more expensive, unless you are booking in a city with a major game on the day of the game. There is sort of an anti-hype going on right now, with people sort of considering the World Cup a disappointment already. So there are just as many people who are avoiding travel to germany during it as who are going to come.

One other thing that I hear from quite a few girls is that they are worried about a large increase in the number of police inspections going on in clubs during the world cup, especially at the beginning. I have heard there have been a number of reports about the legality and prevalence of prostitution throughout germany, especially the FKK's in foreign countries like sweden. In sweden the ultra-fat-feminists are even trying to enact legislation that would bar people from going to the world cup if germany does not outlaw prostitution. so they might really try and keep everything under control for the world cup time.

So maybe it won't be as over the top as people think.

I even know a couple of girls who have registered themselves and are taxing their income now in anticipation.

So who knows.

If you are heading over to watch some games, feel free to FKK a bit between games, but if you aren't here for the soccer, don't make the trip extra at this time, that is just nuts.

Jackyo

05-30-06, 14:29

As promised:

No major changes to this club. Had been hoping to hook up with Julia and Brigitta but they have since left or retired, which is really too bad.

I was with Nicole (Hungarian, petite, large natural tits) who is just exactly as I remember her. I’m not normally into BJs but she does it very well.

There were two Asian women there, a couple of older German women. Ewa is still there (Polish, thin, a little taller) but I wasn’t able to find the time to get together with her. I like women who enjoy their work and she definitely does.

I was attracted to Katarina, younger woman who had very nice tits and an amazing olive complexion. Turns out she is from Tashkent. She does not actually have sex with customers – all she offers are BJs and a massage. I said “okay” and off we were to the room. She did permit my hands to wander and she performed a decent body massage with her tits but she did not allow any penetration. A good experience nonetheless.

I had also been hoping to run into Annette (Polish, petite, blonde). I forgot to ask what her schedule was.

Wanking

05-30-06, 15:18

especially the FKK's in foreign countries like sweden.

WHA, WHA, WHOA?????!!!!!!

FKK's in Sweden !!! Im pretty sure there are no FKKs in Sweden.
Peter "man of infinite FKK knowledge" I think you are misinformed this time mate.

(im sure there are FKK nudist camp sites in Sweden, but not FKK sex clubs)

Whitey2

05-30-06, 16:30

[QUOTE=Jackyo]I have looked into the possiblity of getting to World via public transportation and according to the DB website, there is a train station at Garbenteich, a taxi ride away from World. Trains from the airport will take about 1:20 minutes to get there and you will have to change trains twice.

Technically true, I guess, but not worth the hassle in my opinion to make two train changes. You can take a train from Frankfurt HBF to Giessen without any train changes (okay, one at the HBF if you are beginning your trip directly from the airport). From the Giessen station I'd guess it's no more than a 15 euro taxi ride to World. Maybe less. I've made the train trip from Frankfurt HBF but had a car in a carpark at Giessen, so haven't actually paid the taxi fare from there to World. But from downtown Giessen to World is only about a 15 minute trip by car.

whitey2

Dedalus

05-30-06, 17:20

WHA, WHA, WHOA?????!!!!!!

FKK's in Sweden !!! Im pretty sure there are no FKKs in Sweden.
Peter "man of infinite FKK knowledge" I think you are misinformed this time mate.

(im sure there are FKK nudist camp sites in Sweden, but not FKK sex clubs)

Wan,

I think that you have misread his sentence. A comma after "FKKs" and his point is clear.

Peter,

Are you serious, man? I have missed any such news. It is hard for me to imagine the Germans giving a flying F$&! what the Swedes think in any case. Let's hope the Deutschers show some backbone here.

Personally, I am cool with the girls paying their fair share when it comes to the taxes. I still think that the Germany government cares more about that then what the feministas think or whether or not a Romanian is working in Deutschland legally or not.

Cheers and let's get together in Frankfurt sometime. It has been too long.

Dedalus

Scarpone

05-30-06, 18:30

i was there in january; here is the post:

http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=429718&postcount=635sorry i couldn't post sooner.

thank you very much euro, very good descriuption of the club.

unluckily the selection wasn't that good (i was in cola on 05 12) both in quantity and look, really far from palace where i only have been before.

i picked julia from romania. little girl, [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) kind. she should be working at palace now, she said she was going to move soon to frankfurt. average session, nothing special, maybe she has been a bit cold, but i need to say i was very tired cause of the journey, so could be my fault too.

second pick was anastasia from ukraine, kiev. she is not my kind, very light blonde hair and so and so body, i would give a 6 in look. anyway this girl is very nice and funny. she only speaks german, so that could have been a problem, but she tried to comunicate with me using a few english and we spent about 30 minutes on the couch, then off to room. when we arrived to room she asked me to lay on the bed face down, then she started to kiss me and lick me everywhere and then reverse bbj. everything with calm, never in hurry, a very good session. after we finished we stayed a few time talking in the room and then we went to lockers where i noticed another thing i liked. she was standing far from me like if she didn't want to break the privacy of my locker and of my pocket, only when i told her to come she came closer, smiling.

Peter

05-31-06, 09:00

Wan,

There are no FKK's in Sweden. There are reports of German FKK in swedish media outlets. Is that clearer.

Well, it turns out that in a couple of foreign countries they are focusing some of their reporting on the "dark side of the world cup" and using the prostitution angle.

Germans don't care about Prostitution, not an issue here. In the US it is with Shame the Johns campaigns and apparently in Sweden it is a huge deal.

Well, I have heard they are reporting about FKK's in a negative way and talking about trafficking and the like. It is just sensationalism, but apparently it has swedish feminists so worked up that they have called for a boycott of the world cup (that is what I heard - not sure how widespread it is).

So the germans don't care, but if foreign people are focusing the spotlight on that maybe they will send a couple of cops out to check that nothing totally nuts is going on.

I think the world cup will be a bit of a let down anyway. the ticket policy and the rules as to what you can wear in the stadium are totally fucked up. When these idiots try to control the evils of scalping and protecting the sponsors interests they end up screwing shit up and making total flops like Torino where all the stadiums were totally empty!

I think most germans will buy a nice new television and once the germans fly out of the tournament (which they will) it will be a huge deflated feeling.

FKKguide

05-31-06, 10:29

Peter,

You are 100% on. I'm going on a tour of the FIFA WC games and FKK clubs for the last 2 weeks of the WC. There are 10,000s of unsold tickets. At the games people cannot wear T-sirts with logos, beer sales will be monopolized by American sweet [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) Bud (the Beer-savvy Krauts are rioting already!) and the German team has only 15% chance to get into the finals. Skinheads are threatening racial strife. Football hooligans are rearing to go and crack some heads.

So it might be a better idea to watch the sordid commercial spectacle on the boob tube of a German FKK (maybe while getting a BBBJ). They all have big screen TV sets and they will definitely run the games.

Don't worry, the illegal foreign hookers will walk the streets or work from private homes/apartments/flats. The big FKKs and brothels are very careful to check immigration/work papers. Only illegal entry, working w/o permit ect is illegal, and only for non-EU girls. That means all the beautiful Poles, Czechs, Honkies, Bulgaras, ect, and the Caribbean and African girls from France and Holland will have no problems, as well as German Frauleins, of course.

Of course prostitution is 100% LEGAL and we Krauts say:

"Chill out, it's only sex!"

PM me if you want to join my tour group.

Wan,

There are no FKK's in Sweden. There are reports of German FKK in swedish media outlets. Is that clearer.

Well, it turns out that in a couple of foreign countries they are focusing some of their reporting on the "dark side of the world cup" and using the prostitution angle.

Germans don't care about Prostitution, ......

I think the world cup will be a bit of a let down anyway. the ticket policy and the rules as to what you can wear in the stadium are totally fucked up. When these idiots try to control the evils of scalping and protecting the sponsors interests they end up screwing shit up and making total flops like Torino where all the stadiums were totally empty!

I think most germans will buy a nice new television and once the germans fly out of the tournament (which they will) it will be a huge deflated feeling.

Kumbu

06-01-06, 06:10

Hi all,
I am beginning a series of reports on a trip I did to Berlin, and as part of that there will be some reports on Artemis. I will keep all the reports together in the Berlin forum, even though Artemis is an FKK. But I wanted to let readers of this forum know that there will be some info coming up on the Berlin forum. If anyone has any questions about my reports, feel free to PM me.
Kumbu

Xavier Yves

06-02-06, 06:29

Why didnt you complain?? arent DATY, and multi positions included in the standard service?? Also what price did you initially agree on? €25,€35,€50,€70??

I seriously don't think the service would be same for different pricing levels, most girls only allowe less than 3 positions for 20 mins session (25Eor35E),especially at Cocoon.This is somehow unfair.

Wanking

06-02-06, 16:27

Any info on Ali Baba and Atlantica available?

I found only this : http://www.fkk-atlantica.info/

Jackyo

06-03-06, 02:02

Any info on Ali Baba and Atlantica available?

I found only this : http://www.fkk-atlantica.info/

.. but Ali Baba is definitely oriented towards a Turkish clientele.

When I was at Heavensgate recently I overheard one of the women saying that Atlantica was a sister club to Heavensgate. Might be worth a trip to investigate.

One thing about women who mostly do Turkish clients: Turkish clients consider it a sign of manhood if they come quickly... which means that girls who mostly do Turkish clients expect their customers to do the same... quite different from in the West where real men are expected to last a long time.

This is entirely based on a conversation I had with a Dutch guest.

The other club which definitely has a Turkish orientation is Penelope in Essen. This club I've been to.

They even have a recording on their voicemail system in Turkish.

Xavier Yves

06-04-06, 13:38

it seems heavensgate has promotion now.

The entrance fees are 25 euros for everyday starting from 10 a.m. if I understand correctly

Dennis Moore

06-04-06, 15:47

it seems heavensgate has promotion now.

The entrance fees are 25 euros for everyday starting from 10 a.m. if I understand correctlyThere's no promotion as far as I know.

Entrance fee in Heavensgate is (as shown on their website under "preise"):

10 AM - 1 PM: 25 euro
1 PM - 8 PM: 35 euro
8 PM - 3 AM: 30 euro

They do have some kind of "bonus" card; after 15 visits you get your next visit free entrance. Not really that interesseting as far as I'm concerned.

Also the "bis zu 50 girls anwesend" (up to 50 girls present) is, to put it mildly, too optimistic. I've never seen more than 20 girls there and after 11PM the number of girls drops drasticly.

Please note my last visit to HG was 2 months ago and there are reports a group of new girls arrived (for the WM?). Also, some guys on this board (e.g. Peter) have reported HG is top at the moment. Since I know Peters' reports to be accurate I think the club is worth a visit (as I will do next weekend). But I would be surprised if it would get close to the number and looks of the girls in PHG and GT.

Beffen1

06-04-06, 18:19

Monday morning, time to commute to Giessen. Finally a rainless day with sun and clouds and only the rare short but heavy shower. As the train pulled in, Routard was waiting right outside. We walked to his VW and in exactly two hours rolled into Venlo, where I claimed my room at Hotel American, 55 euro compared to the Stationshotel at 34 right next door, they were booked solid. The difference I guess is the lift and the more ornate breakfast room. Both meals conist of ham, hard boiled eggs and dry cereal. After check in , Routard, his pal and I went for Dutch snacks in town and then a short ride to the club.

We arrived around 3:30 and already there were some real hotties and not so many men, though the parking lot was full. The three of us had a beer and looked around. Long tall hot German “student” Franceska was there as was lovely but cool Gabriella from Slovakia, who I introduced to Fred at World. No sign of little Vicki though, now calling herself Regi. I spotted a little blonde who looked a lot like Marlene of Finland and approached her after about a half an hour in the club. Polish Angela Monday I liked the way she strutted around the club shaking her kontje. No English, or so she told me in contrast to what is reported on the Dutch boards, so we had little conversation. The kisses were of the teasing variety and limited. Her blow job is very good and she makes some stranges noises as she pijps. I got a nice beffen en 69 and then cowgirl, misionary, spoon and doggie and she started asking me to come at the 20 minute mark. I continued to around 25 minutes when I quit and stole a few kontje kisses as we dressed and laughed a bit. I am glad I did her but will not repeat.

The sun was shining so I explore the grounds, which feature many more loiunge chairs, a tent, and some kind of new construction near the covered area. The couches under the eaves are a great touch, especially for chilling out at night. I really want to return in warmer weather GT rocks.

Around 5:30, being well aware that if you snooze you lose when it comes to the dinner at GT, I took a seat near the serving area to wait for the meal at 6. A cute, very fair little reddish blonde girl with sparkling eyes had caught my attention earlier and was now smiling in my direction. I motioned her over to the couch and we had a fantastic converstion waiting for the food. Yolanda is a German girl of Polish extraction who I hit it off with famously. Facially a mix of Nichole Kidman and Kiera Knightly, just 19 and a pixie of a girl, she just charmed the bejesus out of me. I told her I wanted her after dinner and she and I stood on line for the food and ate together. In front of us on line was Franceska, who even remembered the name of my town from nearly two years ago as we chatted on line. So here I was sandwiched in between the tallest and the shortest blond German girls in the place.

After dinner and a short rest and mutual oral hygiene, we found ourselves in the room with the huge beds and the windows to the atrium. Yolanda is just my kind of girl, who loves to kiss and nuzzle and just make love to your face and neck and all over. Finally, I have found my GFE for the trip. I took my time to undress her, fondling over her bikini as she smothered me with kisses. Finally I unwrapped her cookie and feasted. As she turned her oral attentions to beffy and the twins. She first applied moisturizing lotion to me and slowly and gently massaged it in before she began a prolonged and tender BJ with butterfly kisses and licks to all the important erogenous zones. This girl is a keeper. A stint at 69 and then I had her mount me. She is so tiny, this took some time as she slowly and carefully lowered herself and got comfortable and then aroused. I thought I was in heaven as we slowly rocked and grinded together in cowgirl and alternately held a fabulous conversation and made out like teenagers as we screwed. Fabulous. After 90 minutes of ecstasy, we showered togther in the men’s locker room and parted and I assured her that we would return to the room before the night was through.

I spent much of the rest of the night chilling out and talking to Routard and his friend. At 10 we enjoyed the lekker pizzas. My Yolanda was nowhere to be seen. I watched a busty girl who looked just like the great Ive playing in the whirlpool with a guy and made a mental note to meet her. She kept smiling at me as I sat in the atrum and he fed like a baby on her bosom. Around 11:15 Yolanda appeared and I made an immediate date. After her prolonged shower and lotion ritual, we found ourselves in noisy room 2, the one with the slightly raised platform bed. Good mirrors though. Another tender, low impact loving one hour session ensued, and when I emerged 45 minutes from closing time, Routard and friend were ready to go, as was I. They had taken a nearby hotel on a change of plans but graciously drove me back to Venlo and my hotel. We scoped out a nearby 25 euro bed and breakfast in Bracht, across from some kind of sex or dance club. Hotel Garni. We bid farewell and I retired to rest. My train to Amsterdam leaves at 10 AM.

Breadman

06-04-06, 19:27

The sun was shining so I explore the grounds, which feature many more loiunge chairs, a tent, and some kind of new construction near the covered area. The couches under the eaves are a great touch, especially for chilling out at night. I really want to return in warmer weather GT rocks.
.

The construction near the covered area is going to be another patio like under the covered area I was informed. It looked like they had the brick on the wall by the new construction removed...so its possible they plan on making access to the locker room from the outside.

Wanton

06-04-06, 19:41

My first visit here! Can someone please tell what FKK means?

Thanks!

Wanton

Dennis Moore

06-05-06, 07:33

My first visit here! Can someone please tell what FKK means?

Thanks!

WantonLiterally FKK means Freie Körper Kultur = a nudist.

Now I'm sure you know what a FKK Club is, so I don't even border starting to explain that... :-)

In case you really don't know, just 1 advise: Start reading this forum

Viagrant

06-05-06, 09:43

My first visit here! Can someone please tell what FKK means?

Click on "Abbreviations" near the top of this page in the center.

Mike De H

06-05-06, 18:14

I really want to return in warmer weather GT rocks.

I have found my GFE for the trip.

Hi Peps, nice to see a good time was had. You desrve it!

Two things to note, firstly you finally got in tune with GT. There are some real nice bargins there and the gardens are much nicer than even World (which is a bit "swimming pool or nothing" in the summer.

Secondly, its only your first GFE? I also found that last year every girl nearly was GFE but now its harder to find. There is a little Bulgarian called Katjia I am surprised you did not notice, always sits on the sofas near the food and the bar facing the reception wall. She gives great, great GFE.

i also tend to find that girls with no english give the most intimate sessions. Probably because they can not understnd what absolute twaddle I am talking!

See you in Venlo soon... oh a hint - the Etap in Willich is really close and really good and cheap.

Warsteiner

06-05-06, 20:21

No sign of little Vicki though, now calling herself Regi.

Has anyone seen this girl lately? I was fortunate to have a couple of sessions with her in March but when I returned to GT in May there was no sign of her :(

Dedalus

06-05-06, 22:05

Has anyone seen this girl lately? I was fortunate to have a couple of sessions with her in March but when I returned to GT in May there was no sign of her :(

I saw her 3 Saturdays ago. Still looking fine!!!

Cheers,

Dedalus, who will session with Janey/Vivki/Regi regardless of what she calls herself.

Beffen1

06-06-06, 02:28

Two things to note, firstly you finally got in tune with GT.
Secondly, its only your first GFE?

See you in Venlo soon... oh a hint - the Etap in Willich is really close and really good and cheap.

Hi Mike;

I finally got back in tune with GT, I used to love the place.
Yolanda was my first GFE of this trip yes. All the prior sessions this trip were PSE's or GTTM's (going through the motions).

Yes, see you in NRW for a long weekend in late July or August.

beffen

MoneySign

06-06-06, 06:28

.What intrigued me were the three or four girls who hung out at the bar area, who seemed to have no interest in coming out to the couches.
...
But it was the tall German blonde who had my attention and so when I decided to make my move I went straight to her.
...
I don't like writing negative reviews but if you are definitely going to Cocoon and want her name, you can PM me.It's not negative reviews if that is exactly what happened. There is nothing wrong with negative review if that's the truth. You told us about it, and we'll decide for ourselves. If everyone keeps saying thing in PM, what is the point of having this public forum?

Forget about those bullshit PM-ing. Let me spare those newbies trying to PM. I believe the German blond girl mentioned is Katia who is about 1.80m tall. She's a pro and has been working there for few years. I also had a session with her few weeks ago, and she was trying to play game with me. She suggested me to CIM and said that she would swallow for additional 50Euros. I hesitated little bit and decided to go for it because CIMWS is usually my thing. After I did CIM, she pretentiously played with my dick with her hand and tongue to kind of distract me while spitting out most of the cum and swallowed little bit. I caught her act and was kind of pissed. I then asked her why she spitted out, and she explained that she did swallow some of it. She was trying to play with the semantic of the word "swallowing". (It's sort of like saying "It depends on what the meaning of 'is' is".) Technically speaking, she's right in a sense that swallowing little bit is still swallowing. I should have asked her to clarify more specifically about what she meant by "swallowing" - everything or little bit. I was like "what the f_ck!" Since I'm not the kind of guy like to argue with the girls, I gave her that extra 50 Euros.

Warsteiner

06-06-06, 20:17

I saw her 3 Saturdays ago. Still looking fine!!!

Was this at GT?

Dedalus

06-06-06, 20:42

Was this at GT?

Yep.

Dedalus

Toscana

06-09-06, 15:34

Not been FKKing so much recently, enjoying my annual trip to Russia and exploring the non-FKK scene in the Saarland (an underrated area), but I missed the buzz of a good FKK, and with the sun returning it was time for an overdue first visit to Finca Erotica in Dierdorf. I’ve long been a fan of Saunaworld in Görgeshausen, and I am happy to relate (as have others already) that its successor in Dierdorf is even better. All the good things from Görgeshausen, plus some good new ones. Basically, the club is now bigger and the owners (same as of World) have clearly decided that it should be busier and more raw and upbeat.

I was there from 13.45 to 19.00, and typically for this club, the afternoon is busier than the early evening. I don’t know what it is like in the later evening. Good remains the attitude of the girls, the friendliness (it’s a regional club with many repeat visitors) and the great sauna facilities. Now they have a Kino, more rooms and TVs showing, inevitably, football. They also have a full, circular bar right in the middle, and this is well designed indeed. Alcoholic drinks are now on sale, also new, and the rest is covered by the entrance price. I just squeezed in for the happy hour price of EUR 30. Disconcerting at first is the darkness, not only in the main room, which is comparable in lighting to Oase or Palace, so if you’re half-blind like me you can certainly make an optical mistake or two, if you are not careful. Even the changing rooms and showers are dark.

I won’t go into more description, others have done it well, except to say that it is dead easy to find from the A3 autobahn, and the garden is comparable to Görgeshausen in size, and therefore pretty pleasant on such a great day.

There were upwards of 30 girls there, so more than before, with only a couple of dogs, and most solidly in the range of 6-8, with a couple of 9s. As it happened I made the error of going on Thursday, Dessous-Tag. Can happen first time.

I’ve only ever had one bad attitude session at this club, and even that was a classic Optikfick which mitigated the disappointment. Yesterday was no exception. Both sessions I enjoyed were with girls who were friendly, attentive and no clock-watchers. All girls I spoke to offered almost all services, with none of this finnickety, no-I-don’t-do-kissing-and-don’t-even-dream-of-anal-you-pervert nonsense you have to be careful of before going to the room in some NRW clubs. But the prices are Frankfurt prices, so dearer than NRW.

Number one was:

Jenny
Russian, perhaps 24, from Omsk
Frizzed black hair, just down to shoulders
Tall, slender
A-size breasts
Just great legs

Standard 30 minute session which was easily 40, good kissing, too much hand on the blow-job, excellent sex. She wondered at the load she drew. I was surprised too, I was drained after one session.

Number two was:

Vivienne (no, not that Vivienne, Ortos, this one is from Mainz and has never worked outside the club)
Probably late twenties
Classic German long blonde hair, straight
Dreamy olive eyes
Very tall, and quite solid, but skin in great condition
C-size breasts, perfect

I would not ordinarily go for her, but she spoke to me so seriously and articulately at the bar that I realised I really like her, and that she was really up for a good session. It lasted 50 minutes, because she was also clearly enjoying herself. I paid for 30. Fabulous combination of controlled sexual aggression and affection. Quite memorable. I have a good reason for not going into more detail, but you will gather that I was quite impressed with this big lady.

I was not up for more sex after that, so I spent my time around the pool admiring the scenery, and replenishing the fluids at that really nice bar. Indeed even there, there is considerable entertainment and you meet the most surprising visitors. This one approached me and settled down on the stool next to me.

“Hi, there, first time here?”
“Yes”
“Me too, amazing place, huh? From America. Just happened by actually. Thought from outside it was a Walmart store warehouse. I was rather intrigued how dark it was, and there was this kinda lively music, next thing I knew the girl had taken EUR 30 off me, I was naked, showered and had this towel round my waist. Jeez, what is this?”
“It’s an FKK, George.”
“What’s an FKK?”
“Freie Körperkultur, you’re in a German brothel, George. By the way, I’m Toscana.”
“My pleasure, Tosc. You don’t say, a brothel. Well, you know, I’m strictly against all this stuff, you know, extra-marital sex and same-sex marriages and the rest. Probably been reading about it in the Post.”
“Well, it’s only extra-marital sex here, I am afraid, but I can spare you on the same-sex…..”
“Whoah, you see that girl over there? Small, exotic but with beautiful eyes, and a huuuuge rack.”
“Yes, I’d just noticed her too, it gets kind of addictive, doesn’t it? And you know, on another day, she’d be naked.”
“Jeez, you don’t say! And you know, I spoke to that blonde one over there about the food. Said my favourite was hash browns. She was weird. Didn’t understand me. Then said it was 150 bucks if that’s what I wanted.”
“It’s Euros, George, and it’s the house price for anal sex. It was news to me too, but apparently the price is set by the house, and the girls cannot negotiate.”
“You don’t say? They call it Greek too, I understand. You know, those fuckwits at State were laying it on the line about me not saying Berlin was the Greek capital and all that. Guess it was after my trouble in Slovekia.”
“I sympathize, George.”
“What’s that upstairs, Tuxedo? Mind if I call you Tux?”
“That’s the massage area.”
“Yeah? You’re not talking about, you know, the parlours? No, the real stuff? OK, just checking, ‘cos last time I was talking to Rumbo about what the MP were up to these days, I meant Eyeraq, and his eyes just glinted behind his specs and he started going on about Manchester and Edinburgh an’ almost-any-fucking-where-in-south-east Asia and crap like that. He lost me, you know. He’s really out on his own these days, huh? Anyway, as I was saying, even if I wanted that anal stuff, jeez these towels are restricting somehow, huh? I’ve always said, shit, if you want anal, just get the wife drunk. I was telling Tony the same the other day. Tone, you just turn that Cherie of yours over and saddle her up. You won’t get any more surprises that way either, my friend. Ha, ha! Took him right by surprise that did. You saw that strained look on his face at the press conference the other day, huh? Now you know why. Ha, ha, ha. Strange, we all rated him as such a courageous guy.”
“And that upstairs over there is the Kino, George.”
“What’s a Kino, Tiscali?”
“German for cinema.”
“Well, you have to hand it to these Walmart guys, they really are branching out, huh? Family entertainment?”
“Oh, it’s entertainment stuff, that’s for sure. Go and give it a try. And if you don’t like the film, before you know it, someone’ll join you for a chat. Can I keep you company, they’ll ask. Just give her a friendly “sure”, and something’s bound to arise.”
“Jeez, Tixer, thanks for that tip. I’ll go off and do that right now. Be seeing you, my friend.”
“Bye, George, and good luck.”

Dedalus

06-10-06, 01:01

I was not up for more sex after that, so I spent my time around the pool admiring the scenery, and replenishing the fluids at that really nice bar. Indeed even there, there is considerable entertainment and you meet the most surprising visitors. This one approached me and settled down on the stool next to me.

“Hi, there, first time here?”
“Yes”
“Me too, amazing place, huh? From America. Just happened by actually. Thought from outside it was a Walmart store warehouse. I was rather intrigued how dark it was, and there was this kinda lively music, next thing I knew the girl had taken EUR 30 off me, I was naked, showered and had this towel round my waist. Jeez, what is this?”
“It’s an FKK, George.”
“What’s an FKK?”
“Freie Körperkultur, you’re in a German brothel, George. By the way, I’m Toscana.”
“My pleasure, Tosc. You don’t say, a brothel. Well, you know, I’m strictly against all this stuff, you know, extra-marital sex and same-sex marriages and the rest. Probably been reading about it in the Post.”

Classic!!!! Great report on a club that I got to get to, and right funny stuff there as well. Good ole' George sounds pretty inquisitive for a Texan. I remember the attitude of a lot of those people went along the lines of "What I don't know, I don't ask." Bet the girls appreciated him going around promising tax cuts though.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Ortos

06-10-06, 07:56

Thanks, Tux, for that badly needed view behind the doors of this relatively new club. It has always been on the fringe of my radar, now, after reading your report however, I am more apt to focus on a visit and make it happen.

If memory serves, Dierdorf is about 1 hour or so up the A3 from Frankfurt, right. I'll have to check the website for exact directions, but it sounds like you just take the Dierdorf exit and then....it's a short drive without any serious turns through small neighbourhoods, right?

Happy hour sounds worth it if you are coming from Frankfurt, as I (and perhaps others might). This way you can divert your Happy Hour Eintritt savings towards the petrol. Tell me, did you notice any decent places to stay in the vicinity?

Thanks again,

Ortos

Mike De H

06-10-06, 09:16

“What’s a Kino, Tiscali?”
“German for cinema.”
“Well, you have to hand it to these Walmart guys, they really are branching out, huh? Family entertainment?”
.”

Nice to se a bit of humour, very well written indeed!

Careful though, post that on the wrong website and Jingos-R-us will come and get you!

Routard

06-10-06, 10:59

Road, car, traffic and weather conditions allowed us to drive at160-180km/h from Giessen to Venlo. We crossed the border at some 100km/h. While Beffen was booking his hotel, my pal and I went to smoke in a nearby Coffee shop. After a Dutch snack lunch all together, we decided to head for the brothel. All we did within a few hours was enough to put us in jail in many other countries, but here we could enjoy it in full legal conditions. Life is beautifull !

The nice thing about Goldentime is that eveything starts in the public mixed shower. Taking a first shower together with a few girls, there is no better way to get in a good mood.
It was not a sunny day, but temperature was high enough to enjoy the outdoor facilities. My first session was with Naomi, a nice petite Algerian. We went for the outdoor tent, one of my favorite place, as it reminds me my teenager years during summer holidays. Middle Eastern girls look like Latinas, but unlike the latter, due to cultural background they can be hit or miss. Well, this time it was hit ! She loves to kiss and is very enthousiastic, excellent session.

Decided to go for blonde for a change and went with German Linda for a session. She is the typical blonde topmodel. She warned before that she didn’t kiss, but even without, she gave an excellent service. A true recommendation too.

Things were going great. My pal had an excellent session with a nice petite Thai and Beffen was fallen in love with a Polish petite blonde named Yolanda. I have allways considered the 3 Frankfurt FKK to be way above the other FKK, but I was changing my mind. I have had 4 bad sessions out of 8 within the past two days at World, Oase and Palace, but at Goldentime it was a 100% good result for all of us. And the best was yet to come. Yes, service at Goldentime is most probably better than anywhere else. Nearly all the customers are Ducth and German regulars. All the girls are rated on hooker.nl and roemerforum.de. Bad service providers wouldn’t survive very long here. I loved also the general atmosphere and the constant interaction with the girls. Facilties are less of course than in Frankfurt. But if you don’t need them because you spend some good time with the girls…

Management is also excellent. The girls behind the bar are as sexy and friendly as those on the other side. We needed a hotelroom and asked at the reception. They booked for us a nearby hotel, asked us for the money,and at when leaving the club handed us over the keys and the bill of the hotel. German efficiency. By the way, if somebody is looking for a room close to Goldentime, there is a nice small and clean pension runned by a Thai girl in front of a sexclub in Bracht named Hotel Garni. It’s at 2km from Goldentime and rooms are at 25€.

It’s funny to look at all those « white bears » queuing as soon as it’s dinner time. World Cup was yet to start, I imagined how Goldentime could look like in the middle of a Germany-Netherland match, with the Dutch guys in orange bathrobes ! I decided to queue too behind two funny girls. They were very close, from same Eastern European origin, and were continiously making jokes. Queuing can be real fun !

One of the two was much more shy. She was a dark haired petite 19 years old girl. She had a typical girl next door look, very different from all the other girls. Sorry, I can't give her name or her origin, the story is to be continued in another report, and it will be clear why I can't give her identity. Let's call her Aurelia. We became closer and had lunch together. Communication was not easy, her German was even worse than mine. She was in the job for only two weeks. Cupidon was again in FKK. For some mysterious reason, mutual chemistry was occuring. We went for a romantic outdoor chalet.This was not a session anymore. We made love for nearly two hours.

Once outside the room, I was in a confused mood. I wondered if all this was mutual or not. It was allready closing time, I took my last shower, Beffen and my pal were waiting for me. I apologised, and asked them to wait. I went back to the main outdoor area. She was sitting in a sofa and seemed to wait for me. We naturally started to passionate kiss again for about ten more minutes. No doubt, it was mutual. It was hard to leave the club, but my friends were waiting for me. On the way back, they talked to me, but I didn’t hear them, my mind was with her.

Wanking

06-10-06, 18:29

was looking through the archives and found this place.

http://www.atlantik-fkk.de/

I believe that it has bad reports but the site has a decent Gallery.

Shark16

06-10-06, 21:11

was looking through the archives and found this place.

http://www.atlantik-fkk.de/

I believe that it has bad reports but the site has a decent Gallery.

I have just made a search in this thread and RTFF, but info is scarce on this club. It opened in December 2005 I think. I have never been there myself, but discussed it with a fellow German monger at Oase a couple of months ago. He said women were few and all were in their 40s. If true, it confirms your suspicion, making the gallery a scam. Nothing wrong with a good woman in her 40s, but a good club should have greater selection of girls.

Can anyone else confirm or add anything on the present selection of girls at Atlantik?

Funny though, the massage guy really looks like the Hamam guy that used to work at Palace. Isn't it? ;-)

Toscana

06-10-06, 22:58

Ortos,

I didn't notice anywhere to stay, I am afraid. In fact until you get into Dierdorf itself once off the Autobahn, you are passing through woodland only.

It's a little further up the A3 away from Frankfurt than Görgeshausen, my navi said 17km beyond the Trier turnoff. But Diersdorf is on the exit sign and well signposted from then on, couple of roundabouts and you're there. Once you get into Dierdorf, look for Poststrasse. It's a right turn from the main road you're on. Then it's on the right-hand side some way along. Fuck, if George can find it....

It's not as big as World or Oase, but in the afternoon it has a similar atmosphere, I thought. I was impressed. If you, or anyone else,
are thinking of going, PM me, maybe I can make it over.
Tux

Routard

06-11-06, 11:43

this is the most difficult report i have ever written on isg. for days i try to find the words. for days i ask myself whether i must write it or not. let’s be honest. i need to write it as some kind of therapy. however, i kindly ask the members who have seen me in goldentime not to reveal the identity of the girl.

for the last day of my fkk tour, i had a meeting in goldentime with stano, the jackson of the french forums. but i knew i would find back too that girl that turned my head upside down last week. things started well when i entered. i bumped into yolanda in the shower. we had a nice discussion, she inquired about beffen, but she knew his sex holidays were finished. once outside the shower, we promised to see us later.

inside the main area, one of the girls seemed to recognize me and seemed happy to see me. i didn’t recognize her however. in fact, it was aurelia’s friend. when i saw aurelia, her friend had already informed her about me. communication was still difficult, but it didn’t make any difference, there was again an excellent interaction. after a drink, we went back to an outdoor bungalow, and started again exactly were we had left it last week.

it was like a dream. we made love for more than an hour. it was so sensual, that i didn’t come even after one hour. i took of the condom, and we continued kissing each other. while playing together, she took my dick and stimulated her clitoris with it. it both made us very horny. each time, she took my dick and made it enter more and more inside her wet pussy. at last, she entered it completely. here i was, on top of her, bareback inside her. she looked straight inside my eyes, and her eyes were just saying that it was now all up to me. i stayed like this, dared not to move. i wished this moment could last forever. i could have said i wished to die like this, but it was inappropriate. i hadn’t slept for two nights, was fallen in love and my mind was confused. however, i knew i had crossed the borders. after a while, i exited and showed her how grateful i was for those magical moments.

once outside the room, my mind was more confused than ever. why did she do that ? it had nothing to do with the bareback sex like in bernds, she didn’t try to overcharge me for that. i'm even ashamed to tell you what i paid for all that night i had spend with her. she just stopped the meter, to show me i was not a customer anymore. it embarrassed me, as i didn't want to abuse her, but i didn't want to hurt her feelings too. i could find only one reason for the bareback sex, she wanted to prove her feelings for me. still, i felt responsible for her. she is just a child, is 19 and is in the job for only 2 weeks.

i met stano in the middle of my confusion. it was our first meeting, he must have find me real weird. we had dinner together, discussed for a long time as we had lot of things in common. i handed him over a copy of my book, the horny planet guide. i’m waiting for the answer of an editor to publish it.

but my mind was elsewhere. we all know what to do when a girl turns our head upside down. that’s what i did, i went for a session with yolanda. sorry beffen, that’s why friends are for !

the session with yolanda made things even more confusing. she is lovely, has an excellent level of english and has just graduated from highschool. yes, she also is only 19. she is perfect in everything. there was also an excellent chemistry, both mentally and physically. god what is she tight ! it’s simply marvellous to be inside her. we stayed also for an hour together, couldn’t finish too, and promised to finish it later.

her i was in the main room of goldentime, with two girls waiting for me. blonde yolanda appeared to me like an angel, that tried to protect me. dark aurelia seemed to be the evil that made me crossing the borders i’m not allowed to. guess who i chosed ?

yes, as soon as i saw her lovely smile, i was lost again. we stayed together, but it was a strange atmosphere. our environment didn’t seem to agree about it. aurelia’s friend was speaking to her in an eastern european language as if she was giving a moralizing speech. aurelia just laughed as if she didn’t want to hear about it. on the way aurelia’s friend looked at me, it must have been about me. i think she didn’t agree about the unprofessional attitude of aurelia. also yolanda was watching the scene and didn’t like it to see us so close. behind my back, she made signs to aurelia, telling her that the mouth she was kissing had just licked her pussy. this was wrong btw, i hadn’t daty yolanda. did you realize guys that when kissing a girl she still has the taste of the dick from the previous guy in her mouth ?

so we decided to leave the main room with the weird atmosphere, and went to the jacuzzi. i seldom use it, but together with her, it was real fun. what a magical night ! it made me real horny, so we went back to the room. it was again marvellous, and i finally came. she is my last memory of my fkk tour, exactly what i wanted.

at the end of the session, she went to her dressing room, which allowed me to talk a last time with yolanda. i had promised her a second session too. but she noticed how tired i was. i hadn’t slept for two nights and i had to drive to paris all night as i had an early meeting there. it was crazy, i know. she cared for me, and didn’t try to session me. instead, she asked me to leave right now, try to sleep for a couple of hours before driving. yes, she was my angel that night, that’s what i did. i said goodby to hear, hoping i would not see her again next time, as it would mean that she had been accepted for college. if anyone sees her, just tell her i arrived safe and well.

aurelia came back, and i said her farewell too. we promised each other to increase both our level of german to have a better mutual communication. it was heartbreaking to leave her, but i had to go. i had endangered enough my life that night.

once at home, i’m still confused about what happened. i have had a similar experience, a romance with a callgirl. she also did bareback with me and covered with the customers to deal with the emotional issue related to her job. there are some main differences however, at that time, i had no other family to protect and i was not a mongerer.

the more i think about it, the less the bareback sex is important. i will have the result of my medical test and then end of the story. also the sentimental issue is not a big deal. i was fallen in love, but let’s face it, we hardly could communicate together. it was just mutual passion. no, what matter’s me most is that i care for her. she is emotionally not mature enough for this job. i’m now again far away from europe, but i wished i could have been closer to help her and to get her out of the job. when i will see her back again, it will be too late.

i’m looking forward your comments, i prefer through pm. please, don’t clutter up the board with moralizing speeches about using condoms, we all know that.

Warsteiner

06-11-06, 13:22

I’m looking forward your comments, I prefer through PM. Please, don’t clutter up the board with moralizing speaches about using condoms, we all know that.

I'm not going to give you any hassle about not using a condom but I would appreciate a very detailed description of this girl so that I can avoid her the next time I visit this club. I don't really want to takes any chances and if she lets you ride her bareback then chances are she's let other men in these clubs as well.

Wanking

06-11-06, 14:32

At last, she entered it completely. Here I was, on top of her, bareback inside her.
Routard,
great reports mate, Ive really enoyed reading all your lastest stuff, and I hope someone publishes your book.

Over my near 20 years of mongering, I have found myself in those bareback situations as well (not lately though) and ocassionally I have taken chances, and luckily I didnt catch anything. So before anyone FLAMES me, let me just say that I think Bareback is foolish with SWs, but would I do it again if the opportunity arose??

Yeah maybe, if the woman was hot enough, I just might. Cos you cant beat the feeling of cumming inside a woman.

And during conversations with experienced mongerers I have met up with over the years, many have also admitted to occasional bareback here and there. So it does happen guys. Yeah i know its stupid but its part of our instinct to try and create babies when we have sex !!!

Fred

Routard

06-12-06, 10:41

if she lets you ride her bareback then chances are she's let other men in these clubs as well.

I sincerely don't believe it. If it happens to be the case, then I'm really scared, not for me but for her.

Jackyo

06-12-06, 13:19

I've been in a couple of sessions where afterwards we noticed that we had lost the condom while in the heat of the moment.

The sensation goes from minimal stimulation because of the the condom deadening the sensation to suddenly having all your nerve endings on your dick stimulated as they were meant to be.

I guess I can say that I've been lucky so far and have not caught anything.. but it does give one pause...

It does explain why some women like to hold the condom on while you poke away at them.

Its a total turnoff but I also have to admit I understand their concern.

Routard

06-13-06, 15:30

It's not exactly the right thread for it, I know. But it was nearly as funny as in an FKK, worthfull experience to share.

I was a bit nervous as it was the first time I called for an anomymous medical test center, it reminded me my first brothel too. I could come straight away, I would be the last "customer". At entrance, three nurses had fun with a young guy that seemed to be a regular "customer". The doctor, a woman, entered the waiting room, announced that he was again positive and that there were again hundreds of girls that would come to visit them. Barrels of laugh, not exactly what I expected from a serious anonymous center. It was my turn, nurses asked me plenty of questions. I didn't know whether they were asking for professional information or simply wanted to discuss with me. I didn't care however, had great time with them and explained (nearly) everything. At last I simply said that I was surprised as I was told all this was anonymous. They apologized and explained to me that indeed I could have chosen to remain anonymous. Never mind.

I entered the doctors office. she also had a weird attitude. I honestly believe that she tried to seduce me looking straight into my eyes on short distance. When she asked me to show my dick, I nearly believed she would give me a blow job!

Anyway, for those interested about the medical side of the story, as I had no symptom, they didn't check me for major STD like Syphilis and so on, simply for Chlamydia and of course for HIV. They offered me on the contrary to check for Hepatitus, even if it had nothing to do with my previous adventure, but anyway, it was free. Also to be sure, I need a second test for HIV after 3 month.

I thank everybody for the amazing PM I have received. Definitely, bareback sex and love are the two taboos on this board. Few dare to publicly write about it but believe me, I know now that I'm not the only one by far!

Keep safe everybody!

Footiefan

06-13-06, 16:21

Can anyone recommend or advise of clubs within say 50 kms of Mannheim?

Dedalus

06-13-06, 18:10

I entered the doctors office. she also had a weird attitude. I honestly believe that she tried to seduce me looking straight into my eyes on short distance. When she asked me to show my dick, I nearly believed she would give me a blow job!

Methinks thou doth braggeth too much. ;-)

Cheerio,

Dedalus

Optimist

06-13-06, 19:14

If we are talking about STDs etc - anyone who is a constant mongerer might consider getting vaccinated against Hep B, which is very infectious and which is prevalent is eastern europe. Hep C cannot be vaccinated against - (Routard one thing a doctor will look in your eyes for is to see if the whites are going a bit yellow). - and the treatment is very painful and uncertain

Syphilis and HIV will only show up in a blood test three months after exposure

Like others I have had several bareback episodes (with the condom coming off or the girl getting too carried away) and have not yet picked up anything.

Shiatsu

Routard

06-13-06, 19:39

Routard one thing a doctor will look in your eyes for is to see if the whites are going a bit yellow

Now I understand her weird attitude! Looks like I have mongered too much!

Routard

Mr Bluenose

06-13-06, 20:54

Managed to swing by GoldenTime on Sunday and Monday and boy, I was so glad I did!! The weather was superb and there really is something very special about sitting outside in the sun and getting a BJ from a beautiful girl whilst watching World Cup Matches on TV!

I arrived about 1.30pm on Sunday and the place was already busy with Mongers, I suppose the good weather brought them out. They have a new security system for the lockers, gone are the old keys and in there place is a new electronic system that means you have to touch your wristband to the keyhole to gain access to you goodies - it seems to be a pretty secure system as they cut the band off of you prior to leaving so there is no chance of anybody duplicating the key.

The facilities have been described many a time and they are really good. This coupled to a top class stable of girls really makes this place special. For starters I started off with Celina who has only been there a few days, having transferred in from Traum Paradies and indeed her picture is still on the Website on Gallery page 3.

Name: Celina
Nationality: Polish
Hair: Blond
Build: Petite but well proportioned
Service: Excellent - Great BJ, enthusiastic sex and great Cum on Tits
Comments: Took her for the hour and had a fantastic time outside in the Cabins.

Next I tried a Romanian called Mona.

Name: Mona
Nationality: Romanian
Hair: Black
Build: Petite with a great ass
Service: Enthusiastic, tight pussy and great doggy sex.

Monday was another great day weather wise and this time I sat outside for a while watching the football. I was approached (there didn't seem to be much of this going on in the club - perhaps they have clamped down on it) by a German girl called Sunni who started blowing me for about 30 minutes while I watched the end of the football. We retired to the room and had a great time.

Name : Sunni
Nationality: German
Hair: Brown
Build: Firm body with enhanced breasts, she like them played with during sex and kept putting me hands on them!!
Service: Good professional effort but a bit mechanical. Very popular as she had at least 6 rooms during my tenure.

For seconds I tried Tanya a Polish girl who has been there a few years and lives locally.

Name: Tanya
Nationality: Poland
Hair: Blondish
Body: Trim and petite, nice responsive tits
Service: Hard working and dedicated - very enjoyable

In summary these were a couple of great visits to a great establishment. The facilities are first class and the girls top notch. There really is something for everyone and I would love to have sampled many more of the girls than I did. I'll be back as soon as I can as my favorite club PSW seems to be in a bit of a lull (I turned up there first on Monday but did not like the pricing structure or perhaps I didn't understand it properly - so I didn't take the chance and went to GT instead).

Routard

06-14-06, 11:24

They have a new security system for the lockers, gone are the old keys and in there place is a new electronic system that means you have to touch your wristband to the keyhole to gain access to you goodies - it seems to be a pretty secure system as they cut the band off of you prior to leaving so there is no chance of anybody duplicating the key.

I forgot to mention this, and indeed the new system is very convinient. All FKK should use it. Only problem, I could not make my figure 8 sign...

K5 in Prague has even a better system. The magnetic key also allows to enter and exit the rooms, which allows to monitor who went in which room for how long. You pay everything at exit! I've seen a couple of misunderstandings between girls and customers in Goldentime's locker room about time in the room. Sad, as it's easy to avoid.

Mr Bluenose

06-14-06, 12:36

I forgot to mention this, and indeed the new system is very convinient. All FKK should use it. Only problem, I could not make my figure 8 sign...

K5 in Prague has even a better system. The magnetic key also allows to enter and exit the rooms, which allows to monitor who went in which room for how long. You pay everything at exit! I've seen a couple of misunderstandings between girls and customers in Goldentime's locker room about time in the room. Sad, as it's easy to avoid.

That sounds like quite a good system - I wonder how costly it is to implement?

Iseeu

06-16-06, 01:41

In K5, the key not only records the room, your choice of girl and your drinks, it also can be used to order the girl of your choice from the electronic screen under the table.
The electronic key system is actually used frequently in the big German sauna baths found in every major city,for locker access, ordering food and beverages, and special massages, etc.
It's nice to see an FKK thinking about how it can improve the user experience. But, I can't belive that they didn't consider the figure 8 problem :-)

Warsteiner

06-16-06, 20:26

I've seen a couple of misunderstandings between girls and customers in Goldentime's locker room about time in the room.

I have had this problem with Innes at GT and also seen her argue with at least 2 other men in the locker room about how long she had spent in the room. She was convinced that we had been in the room for more than an hour and I was sure that we'd been there for about 50 mins. She was trying the same trick with the 2 other men I saw her arguing with. I ended up paying the money just to get rid of her. She is about 5’ 5” tall with short fair/dark hair, D cup breasts and about 10kg too heavy for my liking.

The last time I was at GT she was doing a double act with another girl and had a few 2 on 1 sessions but I'd still avoid her.

Routard

06-16-06, 21:24

It happens to me also once in a while, very seldom I have to say. It's maybe not very responsable from me, but usually I don't want to put myself in a bad mood and blow up my night, so I pay. I'm pretty sure the girl also believes she is right. It's just a misunderstanding, she doesn't try to sheat me. Still, I will most probably not go anymore with her for another time. It happens also once in a while that I feel guilty as she didn't ask for more even if we went beyond time limit. So all put together, what's the difference at the end?

If anyone has a real issue with a girl, you still can go to see the manager and check for time, as they record the time when the girl comes to take the key for the room. I could consider it if I had a also a bad session with her, but definitly not if she gave me the time of my life. I'm too grateful to a girl that just gave her body and soul to me to act like that. I'm ready to be flamed for that.

Euro100

06-16-06, 23:02

I'm too grateful to a girl that just gave her body and soul to me to act like that. I'm ready to be flamed for that.

Routard,

It is usually either or: either a girl gives great service, or she pulls a stunt with the time. I find that a girl that gives me a great session never cheats with the time. It's only the girls that give a bad performance, who try to milk me for whatever it's worth.

Almost wihtout exception I start the stopwatch on my wristwatch when I enter the room. This settles all arguments. During the last five years I never had an argument over time.

euro

FKKguide

06-17-06, 08:42

after a previous trip to thailand i had to go to daytona beach, fl, usa on business. on the second day there i noticed the infallible symptoms of "the clap" (gonorrhea): burning sensation during urination and pus exiting my [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)-hole! i had had intercourse with a gf on phuket who had insisted to do it bare-back as she wanted to get pregnant with a "ferang (white) baby".

i immediately went to the volusia county health department's std clinic. first they interviewed me for about 20 minutes about my name, address, payment data (even wanted a cc number). i refused to give the data due to privacy concerns.

they let me wait about 1.5 hours and finally a female nurse (about 45 y o) looked at my dripping dick and confirmed my self-diagnosis. her expression and demeanour were overtly disgusted, especially after taking notice of my "hetero, recreational, promisquous" answer to the question about my sexual habits.

then 30 min later another nurse showed up, this one male, and gave me a huge, painful shot of penicillin. no doctor saw me at all!

then he handed me a dozen of condoms and some oral antibiotics and patronized: "be more conservative in the future!"

upon exiting the clinic they presented me with a bill for us$ 97.- which i paid in cash.

no tests were performed and no doctor ever showed up. i got my hiv test a month later in germany (negative and free!).

moral of the story: use condoms or abstain and get your std/hiv tests in a place where it's free or cheaper, and more professional and compassionate!

it's not exactly the right thread for it, i know. but it was nearly as funny as in an fkk. the doctor, a woman, entered. i honestly believe that she tried to seduce me looking straight into my eyes on short distance. when she asked me to show my dick, i nearly believed she would give me a blow job!that doc was just looking for symtoms, not for your affections.

but i once got lucky with a nice female doctor on cuba. -- we say in germany: "he was a doctor, and she was a horny sow too...", maybe a nurse...they have a frivolous reputation.

Everhard

06-17-06, 09:17

I've seen a couple of misunderstandings between girls and customers in Goldentime's locker room about time in the room. Sad, as it's easy to avoid.I can see that misunderstandings about time can take place at Golden Time. I have mostly visited the Frankfurt area, and there there is no question about when the clock starts ticking. It is when you enter a room. In NRW area on the other hand, the practice in some places is to get a room key from reception. And then the question arises, does the clock starts when you enter the room or when the key is collected from the reception? And when does the clock stop ticking? I did a chick that claimed we spent 45 minutes, when I was pretty sure we only spent 40 minutes. Of course, the price is the same. Though, it made me think about the time issue. It could definitely be useful to know this for my next visit. It could turn out to be an expensive extra 5 minutes. But let’s start from the beginning with my rookie impressions.

I had read reports on Golden Time in the forum and decided to pay them a visit. My original plan was to spend a whole day. On the other hand there is always a thing called Murphy’s Law. The result was that I didn’t enter GT until 18. First impression was ‘holy shit, this place is huge, and what a crowd’. It seemed like 50 girls and 100 guys. I am a guy that enjoys visiting new places, but on the other hand I have this deficiency. Whenever I visit a new place, I’m like a deer caught in the headlight. I cannot fully relax on my first visit because I cannot immediately pick up the vibe of the place. Well what can one do, but to visit again? Still, I enjoyed my first visit at GT.

Venue
Large place, with an enormous garden that should be enjoyed during summer daytime. Lots of rooms and fuck-cabins outside. Makes one wonder how cold the cabins are during winter. In short, a mansion. A problem is that I feel silly walking around in a dressing gown. I’d rather just wear a towel. I guess I’ll never have my own mansion… The music was excellent. Good club music or trance can really add to the mood in a place like this, as opposed to jazz or “Schlager”. Choice of music is probably due to the proximity to the Netherlands.

Chicks
Lots of, and I mean lots of, hot chicks. I recognised a lot of them from FKK Palace. Probably to warm there for many chicks during summer. Don’t know if the Palace thing matter in this case, but even though the chicks looked hot, a lot of them seemed, you know, sort of cold and strictly money oriented like at Palace - the Fuck Factory. This meant that I had a hard time deciding which girl to pick without having to expect a rip off experience. I might be mistaken, but that was what I felt. Maybe next time there, things will be different. A big minus is that the chicks are not naked here. One or two perhaps, but in general they wear bikini.

Food and drink
Excellent food, and free beer. What more can one ask for? Actually two things. That the queue for food doesn’t take 30 minutes, and that the pizza supply at 22.00 isn’t long gone at 22.10.

Sex
Like I said, I had a hard time picking a girl of my taste on this first visit. My first chick was someone I saw and thought I recognised from somewhere. (Later I realised she reminded me of another FKK experience.) But after a few seconds I dismissed her as not being beautiful enough. However, when I was walking around in the corridor near the Kino this chick stopped me, and I thought ‘oh no what now? You are not my type, get lost!’ That is, until I felt her skin against mine. Her hands were warm and soft. Just what the doctor ordered! Naturally I made sure that the rest of her body felt the same. Nice! She blew me in the Kino, and after that we went to a cabin. Her pussy was very nice too, so I ended up finishing much sooner than I had expected. In fact, it felt so good I had to try her again later in the evening. That time her pussy didn’t feel the same, so probably it was a ‘me, so horny’ effect.

The other chick I did was, to me, one of the sexiest at the place. That plus the fact she was one of the few topless girls aroused me. Strangely enough, I didn’t see her do any guys nor approach or get approached. Could she be a rip off artist? No, she seemed genuine, so we went for a room. Her sexy look made me fantasise about being in a porn movie. After a while she complained her pussy ached. Shit. This isn’t really my problem, but I’m no jerk either, so I decided that she could finish me with CIM. I have never before paid for CIM, because it is against my religion, i.e. Mammon, to pay 50 Euro for such a simple service even if I like it. In GT the cost is 25 Euro, and that I can live with. Especially when the chick looks like a porn star. Being the premiere, I was not sure what to expect but it felt great. She didn’t spit it out, so I thought ‘god damn, she swallowed my load’. No, in reality she had immediately let it out on the sheet below. A minor disappointment, but in all a nice session. To her honour I might add that she disappeared after our session, so her aching pussy was probably for real.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.

Mike De H

06-17-06, 18:24

I can see that misunderstandings about time can take place at Golden Time.

It shouldn't do.

When the girl takes a key from the board, she should write the time she takes the key. When she puts it back, that is the time (you pay for the walk if she is dishonest). Many times at GT I have had the time go over a couple of minutes and the girl has made an allowance for this and kept it to the 50 or the 75.

If it is in the Kino or outside, then the normal rules apply, serious sexual contact starts the clock.

Spa or Sauna time or caouch action, in my experience is free time, but you wont get more than 10 or 20 minutes if you are really ucky and she likes you.

In the summer, if you bring weed (stupid in Germany) then girls will hang around for free (I have noticed).

Catalyst

06-18-06, 21:31

I don't want to have to time my sessions. I want to have some trust in the girl. This is what I always do and only very rarely do I have a problem.

I don't think there should be a simple timer on the key. If you finish with sex in 20 minutes and then she wants to spend another 20 minutes having a cigarette or telling you something funny that happened to her the other day you should not have to insist that you leave the room and replace the key so you don't get billed another 25 or 50 euros.

Papa Wheelie

06-19-06, 04:30

Kumbu and others in the know re: Artemis.

I'm planning my first visit to Berlin and I have a question.

According to the Artemis website their entrance fee is now E70. Kumbu, you quoted entrace at E55.Do you think the spike in fee is a temporary 'World Cup' increase? Do you forsee this to come back down by August (my visit)?

Papa Wheelie

Member #4331

06-19-06, 11:07

Anyone have any suggestions for FKK clubs in Hamburg, there are not that many reports on them.

Also have about 12 hours to kill in Frankfurt. For a first timer in Frankfurt, which club do you recommend.

Frisch

06-19-06, 19:38

Everhard

06-19-06, 21:47

One thing about women who mostly do Turkish clients: Turkish clients consider it a sign of manhood if they come quickly. Which means that girls who mostly do Turkish clients expect their customers to do the same. Quite different from in the West where real men are expected to last a long time.

This is entirely based on a conversation I had with a Dutch guest.Knowing very little about Turkish customs, it could be true or not true. Still this statement sounds very prejudiced. But it is also true that I have met my fair share of these type of professional women:), so I cannot rule it out entirely.

Viagrant

06-20-06, 04:26

Also have about 12 hours to kill in Frankfurt. For a first timer in Frankfurt, which club do you recommend.

I recommend The Palace.

See the FKK Palace Frankfurt forum for details.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=275

Wanking

06-21-06, 23:04

I visited FKK Heavensgate 3 times during my 6 day sex trip. I would describe it as a sort of average FKK, not exceptional. One thing that impressed me was the sheer amount of Big breasted women there. Obviously the guy in charge of recruitment has a thing for big titties. Due to the huge amount of sex I had in the Partytreff Dorsten nearby I only had 2 actual sessions here.

My first visit was on Friday 16th June. I had two long sexual marathon days previously in the partytreff and wasn’t feeling horny. I really only went to the club for curiosity sake. I arrived at 6 pm, paid the €35, and was fairly impressed with the facilities and layout. It is certainly superior to the similar priced FKK cocoon. In fact there were some cocoon girls present. The Wellness center downstairs is very nice, as is the garden. 2 girls told me that on hot days the girls all sunbathe naked outside. There were some stunning women, and so many with big tits. The food was ok, they had a small barbecue going outside, and it was tasty enough. At 10 pm there was a Pizza buffet, 2 large pizzas delivered from a local restaurant. The pizzas were cut into small squares and tasted a bit cardboardish.

A few things struck me as very mean. The worst was no hot water in the toilet sinks, I mean that is just outright mean. Even on a hot day you need warm water to wash your hands. Then there is the outdoor pool, completely freezing and very dirty. Lastly its charging 4 euro for the same beers that FKK Cocoon give away for free. I left at 2 am and didn’t do anything.

Saturday afternoon was a fabulous sunny and warm day, and I was sure that FKK girls would all be naked in the garden. So I decided to go, and what a mistake that was. I arrived at 2pm, and not a girl in the garden. Infact during the day most girls wear bikinis, which seems ridiculous, as they are naked at night. Also most of the big titted girls were off duty. I stayed 2 hours before picking a cute 20 yearold Polish girl for a €25 session. I licked her pussy for 5 mins and then fucked her missionary and it was all over in another 10 mins, we chatted for 5 mins and then I went off to the excellent partytreff for the remainder of the evening.

On Sunday I took a complete break from sex. On Sunday night I was in bed at about midnight and started masturbating thinking about one large breasted lady from the FKK. Then I decided with the place only 1.5 km away, I should not be in bed masturbating. I should be in the club fucking. So €6 taxi to the club, and the woman I was thinking about was there waiting. Can’t remember her name but she is from Poland, is about 30, and has blonde hair and massive natural tits. All I wanted was to suck her fabulous tits. So I gave her €25 for 20 mins, and she gave me a hand job while I sucked her massive tits. All over in 15 mins. I then went for along Jacuzzi before another 6 euro cab back.

It’s a very average FKK club, nothing amazing really. Although you might think its heaven if you have never been to an FKK club before.

Piper1

06-22-06, 00:14

Fred (Wan King) - difficult to keep up with all your reports as you're a daily sex addict, but when I do manage to read them - always fun and/or informative. Keep it up!

Xavier Yves

06-22-06, 18:19

Jackyo

06-22-06, 23:57

For low entrace fees club, I think heavensgate is better than cocoon. Girls are pretty there but you're right they're not naked like girls do in Cocoon.

Correction. They are also in the nude. It used to be that they weren't but that has changed.

Correction. Les femmes la sont nues aussi. Elles etaient auparavant habilles mais ca a change il y a quelques temps.

Wanking

06-23-06, 00:17

Jackyo,

from what i saw they are in bikinis and underwear in the daytime, and naked at night as of last week.

Jackyo

06-23-06, 00:25

Jackyo,

from what i saw they are in bikinis and underwear in the daytime, and naked at night as of last week.

When we were there they were all totally nude. We arrived just as they opened, spent the whole day there.

Could it have something to do with the day of the week?

It was a Sunday and they were all visually very available... every last square inch of skin, even their nice, bright pink parts.

Gives new meaning to the expression "Sunday best"...

Xavier Yves

06-23-06, 18:08

Gives new meaning to the expression "Sunday best"..."...

you have lucks, man

Fly Bob

06-23-06, 19:53

I was very suprised to read that the girls were wearing anything. All the times that I have been there the girls clothing, including all underwear, was stashed in their lockers. All the girls were naked, except for a few that wore a sash around their waist. But that never detracted from the view.

I was there last summer and later in the afternoon, when it warmed up, a number of the girls came outside. They did not lounge around and sunbathe but sat at the table and smoked and drank coffee. I got the feeling they were on their break when they were outside. It was a shame that they were not more active outside. I saw just one girl swim in the pool. The water was not more than about 10' and I jumped in and got right back out. I didn't feel much like a polar bear.

The girls seem to stake out a sofa and just sit waiting for someone to sit down. It is too bad they are not just a bit more active. I sometimes felt that I was too committed if I sat down and started to talk. So instead of talking I watched how they treated other customers. Smiles mean a lot.

The girls when I have been there range from big to little, skinny to chubby, warm and bubbly to aloof. I have never been disappointed. The 20 minute sessions without any couch action is a bit short and you better focus while in the room or you will be charged for two sessions, 70E instead of 35E.

The food is available most of the day. Soft drinks are unlimited and beer is from the bar at a price. When they set out the meals there is a rush in the limited kitchen space. The food has always been good when I was there.

There is a hot tub downstairs that doesn't seem to get much use. I have gone there to recharge and fallen asleep without being interupted by anyone. I am not sure why it doesn't get used, but the girls are never there. It would be a nice place to warm up and chat with a girl. The sauna there is a bit small. Two people begin to fill it up. Three would be max.

The main shower downstairs is used by all. There is no way to describe showering next to a beautiful woman. My problem was how to behave. What do you say? Do you look? What if I start to get hard? Oops, sorry!?

Overall, this is a great little FKK. The worst thing for me is the location. It is too far from anywhere. I have taken the train several times, and this is nice in good weather, and driven once. For sure, having a car is the easiest. Oh, the trains stop running around 18:30 so after that you will have to get a taxi back to Dorsten.

Good value here.

Bob

Jackyo

06-23-06, 20:16

There is a hot tub downstairs that doesn't seem to get much use. I have gone there to recharge and fallen asleep without being interupted by anyone. I am not sure why it doesn't get used, but the girls are never there. It would be a nice place to warm up and chat with a girl.

Hey FB,

There is a lot of discussion on the Roemerforum about how hot tubs are an ideal breeding ground for germs and bacteria. They thrive in that warm water.

Also, there are sometimes reports of guys ejaculating in the water.

The Herne-Horsthausen club (an Red Carpet club which has since closed) used to have a sign near its pool which said something like: "he who ejaculates in the pool will be tossed out".

The only places I've ever really seen any of the girls willing get into the pool are at Wiago and at PT Wagenfeld.

I'd get into the pool with Patrizia at PT Wagenfeld and get all excited. She is one really slippery nude babe and she would get a kick out of the effect she had on me. She'd reach for my dick and I'd spend a good part of the time trying to keep her hands away from me while simply trying to enjoy rubbing against her.

She is one of the more uninhibited women there, would drop her pants in a heartbeat and let you take her anywhere at all in the club, on the sofas in the TV room, for example.

Most of the women don't like pools because of the chlorine and the effect it has on their hair and eyes so she is an exception.

The tendency has been for the clubs to close their pools. Babylon used to have one. So did Bernds and PHG.

Later,

Warsteiner

06-23-06, 20:41

Also, there are sometimes reports of guys ejaculating in the water.

During a trip to Yin Yang in NL a couple of months ago as I entered the club the receptionist was wiriting a sign saying something along the lines of:

"Do not have sex in the pool"

I've also seen couples messing around in the jacuzzi at GT and there may have been some leakage before they headed off to the room.

Not something to think about when you're sat in the jacuzzi!!

Mike De H

06-26-06, 19:49

I thought it appropriate to withhold this post until I had something worth posting. A trip to Golden Time, 12 months almost to the day, seemed most appropriate. LAst year I was introduced to a Sauna club called GT and a few days later to FKK World, by Wim on a daytrip from Amsterdam, I returned on my own. A friend of mine this weekend wanted to go to the Dutch MotoGP in Essen and offered me a lift if I paid the ferry and shared the driving form the North West of England. An offer like that could scarcely be refused.

We set off from near Manchester at 8 O’clock, got the 4 am ferry, and I got to GT at 11:30 in lovely weather, albeit a bit tired, despite the unwelcome attentions of the German Border control, who were almost (but not quite) as tiresome as the “Pihvj”, pricks in high viz jackets (again) in Dover who just love two Englishmen travelling together as obvious drug smugglers. Well, I am confident my taxes are being well spent keeping our nation safe. (What’s a grand prix? Says Mrs Pihvj. Is it some kind of race?) Never mind.

As reported, the gardens are great, the new raised platform is cool, the new TV tent is fantastic, could be more outdoor tents perhaps, and the new fruit-beers are most refreshing. I spent the first part of the morning waiting for Ciallis to kick in and getting some strength back, and comparing things to my last visit.

Just like last year at this time, early mornings on sunny GT days are mellow. Too damned mellow for my taste. The Girls definitely want to hang around and not work, sunning themselves and sticking in close-knit groups talking and smoking themselves to death, making it hard to break in. At this time as well, almost all the Girls seemed German-only speaking, which doesn’t bother me, in fact no-English sessions are sometimes the best, but sometimes it bothers them as they see it as hard work. The Bulgarian and Polish contingents seemed missing somehow. Maybe it was recent Razzia for the World Cup, who knows. One thing is certain, it was just like last year, but with less Eastern Europeans.

Nevertheless, the first girl came along in no time. A little “Italian” girl called “Alyssia” with a large “MC” tattoo on her belly. Petit, black haired, young, pretty face.. She tried to seel the two up with her friend, but I refused and went for a nice, normal session. She was fairly good, if a little dispassionate, so I extended to eine stunde (one hour) to which she agreed. Although she had little or no English, she knew “come, come, come on, fuck me, come quick). So, being a little pent up and sex starved recently I obliged and came within 30 minutes. She then said, come, sit down, smoke. I said no, its time up. She said “but you wanted ein stunde” to which I replied that once I have finished, times up. “I don’t make the rules” I said, “Come once and you are finished, yes?”. I thought I was going to get an argument, but she realised it could cut both ways and I didn’t want to spend a boring half hour watching her smoke, earning an easy extra 25 Euros sat in nice air conditioning. She good naturedly called it off, and my cherry was picked. I would describew her as a bit sharp, but pretty, and did the business as described to a minimum adequate standard.

Looking for my next conquest was a little tough actually. There were two girls I wanted. One was a reallycute blonde teen-type who arrived as I did, ate breakfast with her regular customer ho arrived virtually with her, spent all afternoon with her and the two left together, possibly without even having sex. Peculiar. Also, there was the girl with the black hair with blonde 80’s style tints at the ends. I id not approach because there were two girls like that and at the back of my mind I remembered a cautious report. Nevertheless, one of them jumped on the bald Belgian guy I remembered from last year, and that was evidently a missed opportunity on my part, because they were gone like forever.

So my next girl was an unusual choice. A black girl I picked up in the Kino, called something like “Jolanda” or “Joselina” or similar. Half Belgian, half from Congo, with a pretty face and stunning figure. We did about 40 minutes, no problems. Like the firast girl, no DFK but light kissing, average session, good looker.

I was getting really annoyed when the Germany match came on and I was getting ready to go back to my hotel and was wishing I had the money to go to Dubai after all, buit stayed on.

Then the match ended and the place exploded.

There was shagging in the tents, fucking displays in the grass, out in the open, lots of really stuff going on, and the place changed totally. Utterly brilliant.

I ended up in the Jacuzzi with a Hungarian average looker called Victoria.

From my own success manual: When all else fails, find a girl with an averageface and a cuddly figure. Find something you like about her, like smooth skin, nice laugh whatever. Book her for an hour minimum. Start slow, treat her like the most beautiful woman in the world, and when she is good and into it, fuck the living bejesus out of her. Fuck her like a rag doll, whilst still retaining some gentle sensuality. Be really into her body, fingers, hands, tongues everywhere, rub hard, but don’t bang, sweat all over her, exhaust yourselves. Then pay well at the end. Everybody goes away happy. Would I recommend this girl? Ooooh yes. Looks 5/10 performance 10/10/

Before I go, on this note, some may remember me posting about Polish Agata on my last trip to GT who had finished with prostitution. She is now on the other side of the bar and in her element totally. In some ways a shame, because a more filthy exuberant sex worker you would never see this side of Warsaw. A bit fat, but such a pretty face. In other ways, really nice to eee her in “civies” and enjoying life. She prefers it, she says, and the boys still love her.

Wanking

06-27-06, 12:25

From Dusseldorf Airport to FKK Cocoon is approx 35 km.

Does anyone know how much that would cost in a TAXI?

Xavier Yves

06-27-06, 19:06

I heard there is a new club opened near Kaarst, called 'living room'. it owned by the same owner of GT.

Anybody heard about that?

Jocko D

07-02-06, 15:55

Was in Pforzheim and had a couple hours so headed on over to Planet. The website looks great, but I wasn't impressed with the club itself. Tiny outside area, and since it was really hot, no one was out there. There were only 4 girls (OK, it was Sunday afternoon) and none above a 7. Admission was free although there's a 10E charge for towels and drinks are 2.5E each. Overall atmosphere was not such to put me in the mood. Finally went to a room with a girl from Hungary named Edina. Less than positive -- no kissing on the mouth, and a very brief blow job. Won't be going back, even if business takes me back near Pforzheim.

Foxx1

07-03-06, 17:15

I concur with Jocko D. I recently stopped by this club to see if it had any promise. The place is quite small and the girls working there are below par, for my standards. The price was affordable. There is a 10 euro cover charge that pays to rent out the slipper and towels. Drink cards can be purchased at the counter and are stamped out when ordering a drink at the bar.

I arrived during a FIFA game. Whenever a goal was scored during a game, the bar gave out free beers. I had a total of 2 free beers at a normal price of 5 euros each. That basically paid for my entrance. I also purchased a drink card for 10 euros which gave me 4 non-alcoholic drinks.

Because the selection of girls was quite scare. I pocketed my loses (only 20 euros missing from my wallet) and headed over to Flamingo where I had a great time.

On The Road

07-05-06, 18:28

During WM I went twice to the FKK Heavensgate in Dorsten.
I'm not a great expert in German FKK, but if you are in the area and you have a car I think that this is the place to go.

I went there only on late nights. Entrance (after 8.00 pm) was 30€, free drinks and free meals at fixed times.

First time I went there last thuesday night, in the middle of World Championship and two days before England match in Gelsenkirchen. Only three customers presents and I think 10 girls.
Every girls were completely nude, not less than 7 were 8+ in look!
Price structure is 25€ 20m with cbj, 35€ for 20m with bbbj. 50€ cbj / 60€ bbbj for a 40m session.
I hade a session with Tonia, 20yo from Ukraina. It was a great experience, she was really gorgeous and passionate in bed even if nor FK nor CIM was available.
I was looking for my second session, but at 2.30am the place was going to close (half an hour before 3.00am as advertised) and it was impossible to have another one.

Second time I went there last saturday night. Same price structure, but the place closed at 4.00 am and I found not less than 15 customers inside, with maybe same amount of girls.
The main difference was that any girl was in bikini, only one was topless!
I had my first session with a Moroccoan girls, Cherie (or something like that). She was very gorgeous too, big natural tits, everything available. Another great session, I can easly suggest to try her I'm sure you won't be disappointed.
Second session was with a german girl called Marianne. This time the session was not so satisfactory. No FK, no CIM, no DATY available.
She was friendly and eager to please, but too many NEINs...

YMMV, as usual.

Dick Rambone

07-06-06, 19:58

If anyone staying in Dorsten and wants bus service : You would get of at Wulfener Markt and short walk to Patrytreff Dorsten or Heavensgate.

Bus 208:

Dorsten ZOB 21:08
Recklinghäuser Tor, Dorsten 21:10 21:10
Lippetor, Dorsten 21:12 21:12
Gemeindedreieck, Dorsten 21:14 21:14
Frühförderstelle, Dorsten 21:14 21:14
Bismarckstraße, Dorsten 21:15 21:15
Wulfen Munastraße, Dorsten 21:20 21:20
Wulfen Großer Ring, Dorsten 21:21 21:21
Wulfen Zur Potmere, Dorsten 21:22 21:22
Wulfen Burgunderweg, Dorsten 21:23 21:23
Wulfen Bruktererweg, Dorsten 21:23 21:23
Wulfen Kleiner Ring, Dorsten 21:24 21:24
Wulfen Mitte, Dorsten 21:25 21:25
Wulfen Matthäusschule, Dorsten 21:26 21:26
Wulfen Fritz-Eggeling-Allee, Dorsten 21:26 21:26
Heidbruch, Dorsten-Barkenberg 21:27 21:27
Wulfener Markt, Dorsten-Barkenberg

Peter

07-09-06, 01:34

Well not exactly. But I met up with Chivaz and Dedalus today at GT and we all independtly wen witht he same blonde girl, Melissa. It was not my best session of the day (actually it was the worst on this day, but I had two amazing sessions) but it was still quite good.

This girl has really strongly curled blonde hair, and a nice slim body, with somewhat sagging breasts and a tramp stamp tatoo abover her ass. Chivaz gave me the tip after his 3way with her and some girl I never saw, that Melissa prefers anal to normal sex. I took that as a cue, and gave her a bit of a rimming (not too much because she has quite a bunch of curly hair in her ass as well, which I don'T like when rimming. She took that clue, and offered it, and she really got into the anal thing. Not sure why, but I have NEVER been able to cum during anal, in private or in clubs. Not sure why, but never worked.

I also have to say that this melissa kissed very passionately, but sadly she has a very rough and pretty beat up looking and feeling vagina. The worst I have had my tongue in in months. Maybe she had a baby or something, the stretch marks on her tits and some around her waist might mean that.

The other session at GT was with a Romanian called Mona, who is really striking looking. She was in no real mood to go to the room, but I thought she was cute enough to waste 50€ on. When we broke the ice it got really good, and I had a great time, but she seems like the sort of girl where YMMV incredibly.

She is leaving GT next week and will be back in OASE where she has worked before. Not sure I recommend her, but I had a great time.

I also really enjoyed trading war stories and funny stories about our first FKK experiences (and Deda is really the oldest hack at this game). Glad I met up with them, even though I was a bit sick.

Before hitting GT I went back to Wildenrath, and had the greatest session I have ever had with Monika. It was really fabulous. I have been going with Monika for almost 4 years now, and it just keeps getting better. Todays session finally made it into my top 5 of all time. and then in the after sex talk I knew what was coming, she is probably going to be quitting in the next 3 months. She would have already quit, but the management has asked her to stay until they can get some more girls to start working there. I will be sad to see her go, but really happy that she finally has found a Boyfriend and hope that she gets as much happiness out of life as she deserves, and that is a lot.

On the way home I noticed again that it is either full moon or really close to it. I always get really horny at full moon, and head to clubs. If I were to stop going, I would have to really control myself at that time.

Excess

07-09-06, 08:00

Congrats, Peter.

"He's Baaaack".

Routard

07-09-06, 12:10

Thanks Chivaz and Dedalus for taking care of Peter and bring him back to our community!

Wanking

07-09-06, 12:55

On the way home I noticed again that it is either full moon or really close to it. I always get really horny at full moon, and head to clubs. If I were to stop going, I would have to really control myself at that time.
You must be a sex werewolf :D

Dedalus

07-09-06, 14:36

Thanks Chivaz and Dedalus for taking care of Peter and bring him back to our community!

We aim the please.

I enjoyed Melissa in the Great Outdoors during the first half of the Germany/Portugal match. Every room was occupied and neither of us really felt like waiting. On the way to some of the lounge chairs next to the tent she asked "Du bist nicht schüchtern, oder?" I told her that sometimes I am bashful, but that no one will be concentrating on us anyway since everyone was so wrapped up in the game.

Apperently I was wrong. I will agree with Peter that Melissa has some imperfections that you may notice close up, but she can screw like a rabbit and she loves to perform. Halfway through a pretty hot blow job, she looked up and noticed that several of those guys were NOT watching the game. Fair-weather-fans I guess. We continued a pretty hot session that included some great Cowgirl and missionary. Peter, you have to admit that there is not much wrong with her legs. She was pulling off some pretty erotic moves with those things.

As we headed back towards the building past all of those voyeurs, one German guy told Melissa, "You were much better to watch than the football match."

BTW: Georgia/Karla is plying her trade at GT for the moment. Who knows where she will be next week.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Dedalus

07-09-06, 15:12

Henio

07-12-06, 22:30

dedalus and i stayed at the same hotel in frankfurt and decided to hit the road around 11 am. the plan was to visit goldentime. for me it was the first trip to goldentime as i usually travel through frankfurt and have not bothered to take the drive up there. recent reports of good lineup had me interested, and as i am more of a long session kind of punter, the favorable price difference for long sessioners did not hurt.

driving was good until the oil light came on. crap, we stopped at next service station and tried to figure out what kind of oil to put on the damn thing. the folks at the shell station did not know dip shit, and the guy at the helpdesk at the rental company was not much help either so we just poured some stuff into the engine and kept going.

beeing kind of preoccupied in conversation with ded, i did not pay attention to speed limits and the next thing i know there is this yellow flash at one of the bridges. “what was that” i asked. “you just got your picture taken” replied dedalus. “good thing i was smiling” i replied.

we checked into the best western at mönchengladbach and off we were to gt. the parking lot was full and when we came into the club, the girl at the reception tried to have us share lockers. we would have none of that which dedalus communicated to the girl, and soon we had our separate rfid chips wrapped around our wrist.

the selection of girls was quite good. not perhaps as stellar as palace the evening before, but still enough stunners around. the place was pretty crowded by men, but somehow there was always enough free good looking girls around. seemed that most men were there for beer, bbq and football. there was not a wait for rooms until the evening.

my first session was with sandra from romania. dedalus and i had noticed her right away as she kept walking around every now and then, displaying her perfect body for the outside crowd and then returning to her seat across the bar. she has these perfect set of c cups, a nice body and a very pretty face to go with it. i had doubts of her performance as she was not smiling a lot, but that body had to be explored.

deal was struck and off to one of the cabins. i like those cabins, nice beds and good air con. the session was ok, she did all the things expected, but there were no special things going on. nice kissing, decent bbbj although a little hard and the sex was just fine. after we finished about 40 minutes into the session, she was all smiling and sweet and i wandered if she did like it or if she was just so happy it was over. she stayed the whole hour chatting, smoking and the usual after sex stuff and i had to indicate to her that time was up. never got the feeling she was gonna try to get into the third half hour, and i had indicated very clearly that it was going to be 1 hour and not more. she was just beeing a sweet nice girl. i have the feeling that subsequent sessions might get better with her.

dedalus and i had run into melissa a few times and we had her on our radar. i took her to a cabin and she sure showed me a good time. after the daty she claimed it was the sixth time she had come today. don’t know if that is the right thing to say to a guy, kind of reminding him that she’s been fucked a lot for the last few hours, but i really did not care. this girl likes her sex and kept looking at her self in the mirror. “you like to watch the performance” i asked her “yes” she replied so i started to fuck her in all kind of positions with her body parts in places so she could see as much as possible in the mirror. we had a great time doing this, occasionally cracking up in laughter as some of the poses were quite silly.

during daty i had fingered her ass quite a bit and she had indicated that she really liked up the ass. who was i to deny. i started out slowly as not to give her any pain, but she indicated pretty soon that she liked to be fucked hard in the ass. it turned out to be the most vigorous ass fucking i have ever done. i literally fucked the shit out of her (she used some spray which was in the cabin to get rid of the smell). afterwards while she was peeling of the condom which was somewhat covered in shit, she said “i have probably done a little too much anal today”. again, probably not the best thing to tell a guy, but again i did not really care.

dedalus introduced me to peter and we had a nice chat in between scouting for our next preys. as peter has posted, he also ended up doing a session with melissa.

after ded had done a live demonstration with melissa for the football crowd, i decided that i was up for a threesome. i had spoken to melissa about this and told her that i had never done a threesome (yep, it is true, after hundred of sessions, i had yet to do a threesome). i have been kind of savouring it until i find something special. lizzy at oase had promised me a mind blowing threesome if she would get to choose the girl, but i had not taken her upon the offer at the time, but was thinking about that. i did want a good lesbian show to go with it, and the price structure of the frankfurt clubs always kind of got me thinking that i would be better off doing two separate sessions.

melissa promised me a good threesome if she would get to pick the girl. she would not do it with just anybody, at least not the lesbian part unless she knew the hygenic habits of the girl. she named three prospects, which only one i was familiar with in terms of looks (sonja). i told her she could pick anyone she liked. when i cought her, the place was pretty busy, and she was in an earnings mode (i guess she always is) and she grabbed the next girl available and asked her if she would do a threesome. that girl was samantha, i tiny little thing with the cutest face you will find. samantha was a bit apprehensive but agreed. we find out there are no rooms avilable and there is like a 60-90 minutes wait for a room. melissa suggests we do it outside on one of the “beds” and we walk over to the one that ded had just finished up with her on. it was occupied. she suggest the other one, the one on top of what seems to be a boat, but it was too small for my likings as it did not look like it would fit three people.

now melissa is getting a bit irritaded and i actually thought of calling the whole thing off, but the sight of samantha kept me going strong. we finally got three sun loungers side by side behind one of the tents with the bed inside (to the left when you walk down the garden) and put a bunch of mattresses on top of them. it was quite a nice bed although i could occasionally feel a wood sticking through the mattresses every now and then.

sheet is put on and we lie down and the girls start chatting a bit. now, melissa had asked me during the session before if i spoke german which i denied as her english is quite ok and i am much more comfortable speaking english than german. i still am able to comprehend most that is said and can actually get away with my limited german. i hear melissa explain to samantha that i do not understand german so they are fine with that. what then went on was great fun for me as i listened in on their conversation. they talked about the men they had been with during the day and other not so interesting stuff, but what got me really listeningn in on was that it turns out that samantha is extremely nervous about the whole threesome thing. did not quite get if it was her first threesome or if it was just the fact that she had never done a threesome with melissa. the conversation goes on and melissa has an idea how to get her relaxed. she asks me if it is ok if they smoke some weed. “sure” i tell them, and melissa then goes on to make this motherfucker size of a joint. now, it has been more than 15 years since i last smoked a joint, and i turned the offer down, but that thing was the length of a two cigarettes, and she emptied her bag of weed into it. they shared the joint and soon you could she that samantha was getting pretty relaxed about the whole thing.

what then happened was just fucking awesome. those two gave me the best lesbian show i could ask for, including me in most of the action. they went extensevly down on each other. we went two down on one and then two down on the other, sometimes one rimming and the other doing the clit, and sometimes both going for pussy. some two and three way dfk thrown in between and one doing the bbbj while other dfk’ing me or both going down on me. it was a fucking blast. they would occasionally have a short conversation in german which i was not supposed to understand, but i got about every word of it and it was all good. one of the comments was when i was about to fuck samantha cowgirl and she had a little worried expression on her face, melissa said “are you tight?”, “yes” replied samantha. “just go slow to start with, it will be ok” said melissa. throughout the session melissa was very kind with samantha, kind of encouraging her and talking sweet things to her to get her comfortable. it was a kind of different melissa than the hardcore one i had just fucked in the ass couple of hours before. it kind of gave me a new appreciation for her. when they were going down on each other, i really believe they were enjoying it. guess the weed did not hurt.

i only had sex with samantha during the session, and melissa did her best to take care of other body parts, dfking me, dfking samantha, licking my balls, licking my chest. i ended up coming with samantha on top while melissa gave me a rim job. it was fucking great.

after the session we hung out on the matresses and they finished smoking the joint. think the session lasted about 40-45 minutes from start to finish, but as some of that time had been occupied by the girls smoking the joint, they only charged me 30 minute session which i thought was fair considering that it was them deciding to have the smoke before and after. i payed each girl 75 euros. it is the best 150 euros i have ever spent.

next hour or two went into swappin war stories with ded and peter about our first fkk experiences. peter’s experiences in that dept. are just hilarious and i almost peed in my rope at times of loughter. good stuff.

i felt kind of satisfied and was not going to do another session. the clock had just struck midnight and both peter and ded had found their final preys of the night and i just thought what the hell, if i find something worth it, i will go to room just to have a nice time. in walks samantha and i could not hold back and took her to a cabin. we had a great time hanging out and exploring each other body. did not plan on having sex, but still ended up that way, doing every position possible for the next half hour. she sure is a sweet little thing with the cutest face you can find and a good kisser too. her bj is a bit rough, but a girl with such a tight pussy is to be forgiven for some imperfections. left the cabin at 12:50 am, totally satisfied with my first visit to gt.

chivaz

Wanking

07-13-06, 00:00

it turned out to be the most vigorous ass fucking i have ever done. i literally fucked the shit out of her (she used some spray which was in the cabin to get rid of the smell). afterwards while she was peeling of the condom which was somewhat covered in shit, she said “i have probably done a little too much anal today”.

he he :d

excellent stuff there chivaz. i remember you writing about a similar encounter in oase a while ago.

Henio

07-13-06, 01:15

He he :D

Excellent stuff there Chivaz. I remember you writing about a similar encounter in Oase a while ago.Right you are. That time there was no spray however and the room just stank like hell. Does not surprise me that you had to remember that one kinky 'ol fart ;-)

Chivaz

Wanking

07-16-06, 23:07

I am going to visit FKK Cocoon on July 26 - 28th, with 3 FKK virgin friends, infact i think they are all prostitute virgins aswell. The reason I have picked Cocoon is cos the women dont approach you, its cheaper than the Frankfurt clubs, and they serve limitless FREE BEER all day.

These guys are big into sex, but also big into drinking and they found the idea of the free beer a big turn on. As they are all big drinkers, they can easily put away 20 - 30 bottles without appearing too pissed. One of the guys could even manage 30 - 40 bottles in a day, and still not appear too drunk. Im basing this on 330 ml bottles.

My question is this, is the beer really limitless, or will they cut us off after a while, if we are really draining their beer supply??

I tried calling but the receptionist had bad English and didnt understand.

Ps the agenda is to have 3 or 4 session in the day, and then hit the beer in the evening.

Wanking

07-16-06, 23:15

I see FKK Cocoon are advertising a sister club on their site now :

http://fkk-amnesia.de its 30 km from Wuppertal (where cocoon is)

Akibono

07-17-06, 04:45

My question is this, is the beer really limitless, or will they cut us off after a while, if we are really draining their beer supply??

I tried calling but the receptionist had bad English and didnt understand.

Your question is really based on common sense. This is an FKK club, not a bar. I would say 3-4 beers would be ok, any more would be abusing the club. They are a business, and based on what you pay, they expect to make a profit. Beer is cheap in Germany. If you want to drink alot, go to a drink mart and load up. Otherwise, you could offer to pay extra if you drink alot. My guess is that the club would not want you to drink alot even if you pay. They don't relish loud guests or drunk guest that leave the club. You are there for the sex. The beer is just one way to help you have a good time and to show hospitality. It's like going to a friend's house and draining his beer supply.

FKKguide

07-17-06, 06:40

My question is this, is the beer really limitless, or will they cut us off after a while, if we are really draining their beer supply?

Your question is really based on common sense. This is an FKK club, not a bar. .....The beer is just one way to help you have a good time and to show hospitality. ....Some clubs do not serve any alcohol at all and most will kick you out if you start showing signs of intoxication. These places are for sexoholics, not alcoholics.

I'd recommend to buy a crate or two of beer at an Aldi supermarketand, drink them in a park by a lake or river and ogle the topless girls swimming there (try Englischer Garten, Munich, or Tegler See, Berlin to name just two places, but any river, lake, or gravel pit will do). Public drinking is not a crime in Germany. Beer is cheaper than mineral water in Germany and the world's best. Donate the empties to the local homeless or take them back for refunds (15-25 cents each).

PM me anytime for info on German and Dutch FKKs

Bacon Sandwich

07-17-06, 11:27

I’ve been a lurker on this board for about two years, but never posted anything until today. I suppose part of the reason I’m posting is as a sort of act of confession. Four days after the fact I’m still upset about my experience, and figure maybe this is a good way to get it off my chest. But the primary reason is that I don’t want anyone else (especially members of this board) to have to go through what I went through last week.

Background: I’ve been a couple of times to Samya, twice to Golden Time, Once to Yin-Yang in the Netherlands. I’ve had mostly good sessions at all these places, quite a few mind-blowing ones, and maybe two bad ones. But, like pizza, even the bad ones weren’t really too bad, and were usually the result of miscommunication. No hard feelings. I think it’s really important to have good rapport with the girl (or girls) you’re going to go with, and that begins with respect. For the most part I have nothing but respect for the girls who work at these places, and for the life of me cannot understand guys who treat these girls at all poorly. Well, actually, now that I’ve been to Pascha, maybe I understand a little bit.

For a number of reasons I was in Cologne last Thursday and instead of getting a hotel I decided I would spend the night at Pascha and catch a train the next morning. Pascha is a huge, ten-story building in Cologne and is touted as Europe’s biggest brothel. But it’s not just a brothel. There is a large lap dance (table dance) club on the ground floor and an FKK. Admission to the table dance part, which is open every day between 21:00 and 5:00) is 25 euro, but once you’ve paid it all your drinks are free. I got there at about 22:00 and wandered into the large, semi-circular room that makes up the table dance club. It has a kind of “1001 Nights” motif, all dark blue and gold, and the girls who dance there are, with two or three exceptions, gorgeous. Lap dances are $10 for one song, $20 for two, and for $30 you can lick whipped cream off of various parts of the girls. None of the girls I talked to would have sex with you, although I can’t totally rule out the possibility that there might be a few who would. But I doubt it.

I spent most of the time in the table dance club with Nathalie, a beautiful blonde from Munich with, and I am not exaggerating here, a perfect body. Of course she didn’t think so, but what girl thinks her own body is perfect? Actually, her body was tied for first with about eight other girls there, all of whom left the trailing three in the dust.

I got into the club, sat down and had a beer. Just one. I don’t really like to drink a lot, but a beer or two just to get loose and relaxed is often a good idea in these places. I got a $10 private dance from the first girl who approached me. She was hot and used ice creatively. I got a $20 dance. I got another. I had a second beer. That’s when Natalie introduced herself, and what could I do but get a few dances with her? Every once in a while girls who were not dancers, but who worked in the brothel part of the club would wander into the place and try to drum up some business. I was approached by two of them as I stood at the bar, a tall blonde and a short brunette. Both were pretty, really good bodies, but maybe just a cut below the dancers. I said “no for now but maybe later.”

Several lap dances later midnight rolls around and I’m getting pretty horny. I decide to check out the upstairs. You get a stamp on your hand when you leave the table dance so that you can get back in, but then you have to pay 5 euros each and every time you go to the upstairs. I wander around upstairs, which is laid out just like a hotel, but with girls on stools who sit outside many of the rooms and who try to get you to go inside with them. I happen to come across the short brunette who had approached me in the table dance section. I ask her how she’s doing and she says, about as seductively and honestly as I’ve ever heard anyone say it, “I’d be better if we were having sex.” Sold. I go into the room.

As soon as we get into the room, she sits on the bed very smiley and happy and says something like: “Do you want to have a double with me and my friend, who was in the bar with me? She really wanted you.” Somewhere in the back of my head, a little alarm bell goes off. Nothing too loud, mind you. Just a little one. I have enough money with me that I’m not too worried about it, plus as I remembered it her friend was the hotter of the two, so I said OK. She calls her friend, the blonde. The blonde arrives. She is thrilled to see me. She squeals with excitement. We get naked. I lie on the bed between them. The brunette rubs my balls and my chest. The blonde straddles me and starts to blow me. At least I thought she was blowing me. In retrospect, I’m not so sure, because she blocked my view with her body. But it felt pretty good, whatever she was doing. At least, it felt pretty good for about two minutes, at which point suddenly everything stopped and the blonde looks up at me and says “Hey, do you want to get some cocaine?”

You know how when sometimes, just because you’re a man and your hormones get going, you’re naked, usually there is a girl there, your penis is hard, you can’t quite think straight, you do stupid things? I have only ever tried coke one time in my life, in college. It was given to me by an on-off girlfriend, and we had some pretty incredible sex right afterward. I thought at the time (and still do) that it was only partly because of the coke. The coke at Pascha cost me 50 euros for half a gram. Is that expensive? Something tells me it is. I snorted about half a line. The girls did the rest.

Now for the fun part. As soon as I did the coke, my penis stopped working. I don’t know if this is a normal thing with cocaine, but it would not get hard no matter what. This has honestly never happened to me before. I felt great though. I was still really horny. But my dick would not get hard. The girls played with it a little. Nothing. But I still felt great. I started to get a little aggressive, which is not like me at all, normally. The blonde was curled on the bed, the brunette trying absently to get my penis working. The blonde says, “For another 50 euros we can stay with you longer, very relax.” Alarm bells are now screaming in my head.

“Really?” I say. “Ooooh, only fifty more euros?” The aggressiveness is seeping into my voice, but I can’t stop it.

“Yeah” she says, big, fake smile.

“I tell you what,” I say, “I’m going to lick your asshole for a little while, then we’ll see.”

“Oh, yeah baby,” coos the blonde. We are all totally exaggerating the seductiveness of our voices, me included. Suddenly it’s like a battle, with them trying to get as much money out of me as possible without fucking me and me becoming more and more determined that I am going to fuck both of them. Only my penis won’t work.

“Come here so I can lick your ass,” I say, and both girls get on their hands and knees, asses in the air, but covering their pussies with their hands so I can’t lick those. I have never done this before. Ass licking. Honestly, never. But for some reason I just had to do it. Boy, I sure did go for it. I am high as a kite and I want nothing more than to lick these girls’ asses. I went back and forth between them, spreading their ass cheeks and licking good and deep between them. Only my penis still would not get hard. The blonde notices this and says:

“Baby, let’s smoke a joint so you can get hard. Or I can get you some viagra. But let’s smoke a joint first, OK baby?” She keeps calling me baby in this incredibly fake way, which makes me want to fuck her even more savagely, only I can’t. My dick’s still soft.

Now I am only certain of three things: That I want to lick these girls’ asses for the rest of my life, that a joint right now will surely kill me, and that if I take viagra my dick will, probably sometime soon, be hard again, but that it will probably stay that way, possibly for days on end.

At this point I may have been in the room for 20 minutes. The blonde, clearly the enforcer of the two, and who is therefore the one I am most determined to fuck, stops my ass licking and says, in a honey dripping voice, “Give us another 50 each and we can stay long time.”

“I’m out of money,” I lie.

“You can give us a credit card, and we can get money out for you,” she says.

Mentally I add a fourth item to the list of things of which I am certain: I am never, ever going to give these girls my credit card.

It ends badly. The blonde acts insulted that I won’t trust her with my credit card. My penis will not get hard, and I don’t want to part with more money, especially since I have already handed over 150 euro and, sex wise, have not even received a decent blowjob. I thought at the time that maybe part of this was my fault. Everyone left the room pissed off.

I go back to the table dance section and sit with Nathalie. Her body is perfect. She has long blonde hair and I buy her a drink, which is only twenty euros and she drinks it slowly since it’s a slow night. Despite the earlier episode, everything is great. Life is amazing. I am wired. I am a brilliant conversationalist. Nathalie is amazing. She is smart and funny and beautiful and has the greatest ass I have ever seen. When I get a lap dance from her I tell her that I have an overwhelming desire to spank her ass, but that I would never do it because I respect her too much. But sometimes I make a little spanking motion with my hand when she is bent over me, and this makes her laugh. She likes me. I can tell. Everyone likes me. I am witty and funny and caring and concerned. I am a brilliant conversationalist. Nathalie is everything that those other two girls were not, probably because I know that I am never going to fuck her. The closest I will ever get is licking whipped cream off her breasts. But regardless, I am deeply interested in Nathalie. I want to understand her. Deeply. “Yes,” she says, “I know there is a brothel upstairs, it’s the world’s oldest profession. They make a lot of money. No, I would never do that. Oh, maybe some of them have drug problems, but not everyone.” At this, I notice that Nathalie often sniffs through her nose in short, shallow bursts, just like I have been doing since I took the coke. It felt a little bit like that scene in the Quentin Terentino movie “From Dusk ‘Till Dawn” where they suddenly find out that everyone in the club is a vampire.

At some point I see the two girls I was with before come into the club again, and I make a note to myself to go back later, when my dick works, and fuck them. This is beyond the normal, male “Oh I’d like to fuck her” response we so often have. This is for revenge.

Eventually, one of the lap dances I get from Nathalie arouses my penis. Hallelujah! I go back into the brothel. I see the two girls sitting at a little bar/lounge area, talking to another guy. They want nothing to do with me. Well, the shorter brunette might, but definitely not the blonde. I search for other girls, and eventually find a pretty blonde with huge tits, just what the doctor ordered. We go into the room. My penis—thank God—gets hard. Two minutes into a half-hearted blowjob, she looks up and says: “You can stay much longer, more relax, for another 50 euro.” Alarm bells! “No thanks,” I say. “Really,” she says, stopping her already terrible cock-sucking, “It’s much better.” I have seen no evidence that she is capable of anything better. I leave. I try another girl. Same story. Another. They all try to up sell, even though I have said in each case, before ever going into the room, that I will only spend 50 euro, that I did not want to be up sold, and made absolutely sure they were OK with it. “50 euro for fuck and suck, OK?” In each of the four times I tried, that agreement lasted all of two minutes into a poor blowjob before the up selling began, and then they would refuse to do anything more when I said no, claiming we had already been at it 20 minutes. It really felt like some kind of house policy.

The thing is, I’m not cheap by any standard. At FKKs, I generally give extra money to the girls, 20 or even 50 euro, if I like them and if they’ve been really cool with me, even if we agreed to a lesser amount before going to the room.

Oh yeah, there is an FKK at Pascha also. 100 euro to get in the door. I didn’t bother.

Conclusions: I had heard (and there are signs posted there indicating) that Pascha has a money-back, satisfaction guarantee. It’s kind of a long story, but to cut it short, that’s a bunch of crap. Go to Pascha if you want to hang out with and get lap dances from absolutely gorgeous girls in a cool lap dance club. DO NOT go if you want to have sex. There is no such thing here as a quick blowjob between lap dances, at least not in my experience. All total, I dropped 350 euros on various girls (not including lapdances and drinks for the dancers), and I did not get so much as a decent blowjob the whole night. And oh yeah: don’t do drugs.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.

Wortmann

07-17-06, 14:29

I am still thinking about it. And I was there almost a week ago!

Well, it was my first FKK experience. I think it is the closest thing to paradise that you can image! I mean, if the paradise exists it is something like FKK club!

I was in spanish clubs, I was in swiss clubs, in Ceck Republic clubs, in dutch clubs but nothing is like a FKK club. Probably, I suppose to come back to GoldenTime on Thursday. Probably I'm already one FKK addicted.

Wortmann

Jack195

07-20-06, 19:42

Oh My God. I start this post with my first thought as I walked into GT and saw all of the women available for my pleasure. I want to thank everyone who gave me information here and in the General Forum on which FKK to visit for the area I was visiting. This was my first ever experience in an FKK and I have to say that it was an amazing visit. I apologize immediately for forgetting all the names of the girls except one because I was completely out of my depth.

I arrived between 8 and 9 pm on Monday night met the hostess who asked if I was new, she chuckled, gave me the rate explanation that had already been explained to me before I left, told me about food and beer, the amenities, and how to work my locker. With my Robe in my hand I went off to change in the locker room and watched two girls proceed to shower off in the Mens Locker area. This was a good start already. I walked out into the bar area and was amazed at the huge array of women, of different sizes, races, and beauty. I didn't pick a girl immediately as I wanted to get acquainted with the establishment. I got a beer and walked around the corner and right out into the HUGE backyard. There were a couple people sitting and drinking with girls cuddling on the couches. I looked around the cabins on the right and then decided there wasn't a reason for me to go that area yet. I went back inside.

I walked around the hallways and found the Kino looked in was immediately propositioned by a couple of women who wanted me to come into the Kino, I politely refused and kept walking coming back to the entrance of the club. Heading back to the bar to drop off my beer bottle, I then went into the little courtyard area with the whirlpool, massage table, sauna, and curtained bed. I decided to take a dip in the whirlpool and was left to myself for 10 minutes. During those ten minutes I watched an amazing selection of women walk past; enough to make any RLD I've seen to date seem like a waste of time. I hopped out of the whirlpool and started to take a shower and cool off. While my back was turned a pair of ladies walked by, and one reached out and grabbed my butt while I was under the shower. I choked on the water I inhaled and turned around to see two girls giggling and walking off to the Kino. One was a brunette about 5 foot 6" with C cup, and the other was a dyed blonde about 5 foot (short) with an A cup. Hmm. This could be Fun.

Sat in the bar with a beer for a few minutes watching and thinking about what I should do next. I ended up heading back to the Kino to hide in the corner on the bed and relax. I was talked to by two black girls but I said I wasn’t interested at this time. A few minutes later in walks the brunette from my shower earlier. She sits down slides her hand up my robe and gives me a tug asking if I want to talk. Well of course I do, we get comfortable and talk for a few minutes. She was from Poland, I forget name, and age because she liked to talk with her hands and I was soon distracted and agreed to a session right there in the Kino. BBBJ and then covered sex later and I was no longer a FKK virgin. All told it took about 20 minutes, she gave me a little massage and nibbled my ear and asked if I enjoyed myself. We left for the locker rooms, I paid and then showered wondering if life could be any better.

I roamed around for an hour and a half watching girls, drinking coke, and eating dinner. I noticed that aside from my brunette no one in the bar area was inclined to be very approachable. After that hour and a half I picked a short girl with wide hips, small b cup, brown hair, and a bikini that was too tight who was having fun dancing in the bar area trying to get someone’s attention. We didn’t bother with talking, and were soon in a room. It gets bad here, she used her teeth way too much and was too aggressive, and soon I was hurting and asking to stop. She jumped on top and we finished 15 minutes later. Another little cuddle session and off to the locker room. I cleaned up and went to the front desk to head back to my hotel.

The same receptionist was working as when I arrived. She asked if I enjoyed myself, I couldn’t lie I had an amazing time. So I left with a coupon for my next visit. Hmm one more night in the area and a coupon to boot. So I came back the next night but this time a little earlier.

I gave them my coupon, got my robe and locker and went off to conquer. I spent some time relaxing and finally picked a girl who had been looking my way occasionally. We sat down and we talked for a while. She was 20 something, from Poland, and her name was Chantal. We tried to find a room but it was a busier night, and none were available. I suggested the Kino and she reluctantly agreed. Got comfortable on the big long bed in the back. Cut it short, she was a lot of fun. BBBJ and then off to CS. Finished up right at the 30 minute mark, so after talking for a few more minutes we headed off to the lockers.

Showered and relaxed I spent some time eating, drinking, and watching girls. I had had the blonde friend of the brunette in my mind all night and she soon came along with her friend. She seemed to be well liked and was busy twice with long sessions, but eventually I stole her away. Rooms were booked again. Not afraid of the Kino I suggested we wait there and she didn’t seem to want to go back that way again. Her friend told her the bed in the courtyard next to the sauna was free, so we quickly grabbed it and had another enjoyable 30 minutes. She wasn’t as much fun as the first, or Chantal, but she was better than teeth girl. I had an early drive in the morning so after her I had a bit more food and drink and headed back to my hotel.

I can say that I’m addicted to the thought of this FKK and can’t wait till I can find time to return and play some more.

PS. Has anyone ever gotten access to the Gallery for the goldentime website?? I registered two different e-mail address and both have never been acknowledged.

FKKguide

07-21-06, 07:11

Oh My God. I start this post with my first thought as I walked into GT and saw all of the women available for my pleasure. I want to thank everyone who gave me information here and in the General Forum on which FKK to visit for the area I was visiting. ......Great report. We stopped there on out tour of Germany during the FIFA WC and were a bit early (11 am on a Sunday, when they open at 1 pm). The place looked spotless and manicured from the outside with a cute, classic Polski Fiat 500 minicar parked in front. I could just imagine the pretty Polka who drove it over from her country to make her fortunes here.

We drove on to YinYang in Roermonmd (about 25 km, across the Dutch border) instead of waiting, which also was a good experience. Same night we hit the Hornstrasse brothels in Cologne too and spent the night there.

PM me about future group tours.

Warsteiner

07-21-06, 20:09

PS. Has anyone ever gotten access to the Gallery for the goldentime website?? I registered two different e-mail address and both have never been acknowledged.

I've done the same thing, maybe they have a membership limit?

Nice report by the way and I know what you mean about this club being addictive. I've been to a couple of clubs (Oase, Samya, BN, PHG) but this club really is addictive.

Breadman

07-22-06, 21:10

So I left with a coupon for my next visit. Hmm one more night in the area and a coupon to boot. So I came back the next night but this time a little earlier.

Coupon? Never heard of GT giving out coupons...what was the coupon for?

Jack195

07-22-06, 23:25

Coupon? Never heard of GT giving out coupons...what was the coupon for?5 Euro off my next visit, was a small yellow buisness card.

FKKguide

07-23-06, 04:59

I’ve been a lurker .....
.......and I did not get so much as a decent blowjob the whole night. And oh yeah: don’t do drugs.I usually stay away from such big brothels.

But we went there 2x on our last tour (daytime and 3am), just for curiousity's sake and had no bad experiences. The 24 y o Thai girl in 213 is highly recommended, paid 40 Euro for good BJ and FS.

Did you actually try to enforce the "Orgasmus Garantie" (orgasm warrany) they advertise? By German law this is a binding legal contract.

In Cologne FKK-Samya is the best choice.

Jack195

07-23-06, 10:22

I had a question for some of the folks who know more about this place. When I was there both nights the girls wore lingerie. Is this an everyday thing? or did I just pick the wrong two days?

Warsteiner

07-23-06, 19:16

I had a question for some of the folks who know more about this place. When I was there both nights the girls wore lingerie. Is this an everyday thing? or did I just pick the wrong two days?

Women always wear lingerie in GT although some do walk around topless.

FKKguide

07-24-06, 04:51

Women always wear lingerie in GT although some do walk around topless.Prefer them to be totally naked.

Same bummer at Yin Yang, must be a Dutch/German border thing.

Stano

07-24-06, 21:57

Prefer them to be totally naked.

Same bummer at Yin Yang, must be a Dutch/German border thing.

Bullshit : nothing to do with the Dutch/German border. The Golden Time is simply not a FKK club but a sauna club like many others (Samya, Planet Happy Garden, Relax, ...).
In a sauna club women wear lingerie and men a robe.

FKKguide

07-26-06, 02:33

Bullshit : nothing to do with the Dutch/German border. The Golden Time is simply not a FKK club but a sauna club like many others (Samya, Planet Happy Garden, Relax, ...).

In a sauna club women wear lingerie and men a robe.Who makes up the rules?

I always sit in a sauna neked, so do the others.

Last time I was at Yin Yang the girls took off their Reizwaesche (Lingerie)and the men their robes to swim in the pool! Even under the showers. Disgusting!

Maybe they should call themselves 'Lingerie-Clubs'.

What's in a name anyway? In the FKK-Pascha they wear lingerie too.

The Harem specifically calls itself "Saunaclub' and everybody runs around nakkid!

In any case I prefer places without dress codes.

Iseeu

07-27-06, 06:49

FKK Guide,
For someone who purports to be an expert and is constantly pushing his services as a guide to FKK, you seem to have a very rudimentary knowledge and at times incorrect knowledge of the subject.

I find it very offensive that you promote your dubious services on this board, as it lessens the value of this board as a non- commercial objective forum for people without an agenda to share experiences and views.

Therefore, I request that you cease your untiring self-promotion in your posts on this board, and also recommend that you actually get the knowledge that you claim to have. We'll be happpy to read your reports form your learning experience.

Stano

07-27-06, 13:10

I totally agree with Iseeu ...

To FKK Guide : do you know the meaning of the letters F K K ?

Lazzaro

07-27-06, 16:30

I totally agree with Iseeu ...
To FKK Guide : do you know the meaning of the letters F K K ?
It seems yes, he knows...see the report n#071 (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=488499&postcount=971)
Ciao

Cola Bear

07-27-06, 19:19

I nearly cannot believe that within a whole week nobody has really said thank you to Bacon Sandwich for a perfectly entertaining report about Pascha. So it's up to me, a newbie myself:

Thank you, Bacon, for this wonderful story. I whished I could write like you. It's fun, it's authentic, it's storytelling at its best! You should have heard me laughing out loudly when you wrote about your Tarantino experience. Wonderful!

In order not to loose contact with the topic of this thread, let me add that my own experience is quite minimalistic. Tried former FKK Penelope at Essen (what's its name today? The taxi driver just dropped me there and I didn't take notice), and - what can I say - it was a good, but not fantastic experience. Late Saturday might not be the most suitable time to expect fresh girls and instance response. But things went out fine for me when I met a Polish girl, Maria, nice, firm body, in her twenties. Good service, as far as I can tell (obviously I am lacking experience) and a fair deal: 25EUR for BBBJ and sex in two positions. After all, I find the pricing structure in these FKKs amazing. Compared to conditions I noted at other places in Essen (brothels, I don't recall the names) the FKK offers an extremely good value-for-money.

As I said, I whished I could write like Bacon. But that's not the case, so I won't even try.

Best regards,

Cola

Peter

07-27-06, 21:45

Cola,

Well your only experience is in one of the worst FKK's in all of Germany.

You taxi driver had to be Turkish, and everyone in that club is turkishm, and if you were not turkish I can hardly understand how you could communicate in that club.

The bartender lady speaks turkish, they have all these turkish drinks and pipes and the whole place stinks of tobacco.

If you thought that was good, then got to a real club sometime (and here's a hint Pascha is no good either)

If you are in this area again, rent a car and got to Goldentime or Planet Happy Garden and have some real fun in a decent place.

Now I will read the report from Bacon Sandwich.

FKKguide

07-28-06, 11:05

To FKK Guide : do you know the meaning of the letters F K K ?But of course: FREI KOERPER KULTUR!!!! Grew up in a nudist family. Have practiced it since childhood.

It means of course: no clothes, of as they say in German 'Textil-frei' = free of textiles.

De gustibus non est disputandum! Lat: One cannot argue about tastes!

Jackyo

07-28-06, 11:28

Tried former FKK Penelope at Essen (what's its name today? The taxi driver just dropped me there and I didn't take notice), and - what can I say - it was a good, but not fantastic experience. Late Saturday might not be the most suitable time to expect fresh girls and instance response. But things went out fine for me when I met a Polish girl, Maria, nice, firm body, in her twenties. Good service, as far as I can tell (obviously I am lacking experience) and a fair deal: 25EUR for BBBJ and sex in two positions. After all, I find the pricing structure in these FKKs amazing. Compared to conditions I noted at other places in Essen (brothels, I don't recall the names) the FKK offers an extremely good value-for-money.

I haven't been here in a while but this club has a very definite Turkish slant. There is an telephone information line in Turkish, most of the clients are Turkish.

Granted that most non-Germans have no experience dealing with Turks (most can't even tell them apart) and to a newbie with no other FKK experience, this club probably exceeds any brothel experience you may have had anywhere on the planet.

It is almost certainly better than what you will find in the local Essen Laufhaus scene. Those places are usually way too grim and security is an issue.

This club belongs to the Red Carpet chain, shows up on its maps and lists, generally follows its pricing guidelines.

Rest assured: there are better clubs out there so you have not yet seen the best that Germany can offer.

This isn't to say that you can't have fun here. The pricing is about as good as it can get (though at this pricepoint range, I'd do Heavensgate or Cocoon before I did Penelope).

The one main feature of this club is the indoor pool which is just a few steps away from the contact area and to the side of the saunas. The decor is otherwise Red Carpet all the way with minimal lighting, heavy curtains, thick carpets and padded couches (normally filthy from not having been cleaned since they were put into service).

I got my start on my FKK career visiting Red Carpet clubs in the Ruhrgebiet years ago. Some of those experiences were good, others not worth writing home about.

FKKguide

07-29-06, 03:53

FKK Guide,

For someone who purports to be an expert and is constantly pushing his services as a guide to FKK, I request that you cease your untiring self-promotion in your posts on this board, and also recommend that you actually get the knowledge that you claim to have. We'll be happpy to read your reports form your learning experience.Wow, a flame! Who gives you the authority to censor anybody? A lot of the posts in this forum are thinly disguised self-promos of various clubs, even the providers themselves.

This is not a private chatroom or personal blog. Have something against freedom of expression, free enterprise? I offer my expertise to anybody and everybody, nobody is forced to either read my posts or take me up on my offers.

Believe me, I have mongered before most of the blokes yakking here were able to ejaculate. I am German-born and have benefited from the excellent German education and civil freedoms, I have personally frequented the venues I mention and lastly I was the manager of one of the very first FKK clubs in Germany, Haus Romantika, Hamminkeln, in 1989-1990.

So why not PM me as long as it is still free and non-commercial (before Aug 15)?

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Hi Guys,

Let's not make this into a flame war, especially since the Forum has a policy specifically covering this situation, as follows:

EDITOR's NOTE: The above report, while technically a SPAM advertisement, constitutes an exception to the Forum's No SPAM rules in that I generally permit what I call "Local Tour Guides" to promote the availability of their services in the Forum. Of course, in exchange for this privledge they are expected to answer questions and otherwise contribute relevant information to the Forum. Thanks!

Thanks,

Jackson

Iseeu

07-30-06, 09:45

No intention to flame - but if you are going to promote your services to unsuspecting newbies you should know;
* that GT is not an FKK club (your explanation: "...must be a Dutch/German border thing");
* GT's opening times on a Sunday;
* Not to waste anyone's time at the Hornstrasse brothels which most experienced hobbyists know to avoid like the plague.

We post here to help new and old mongers, not to misinform them.

Frankly, there's really no need for a guide to go to FKK's. If you're a newbie and are hesitating/ cautious/ shy/ scared of going to an FKK for the first time, there's plenty of great info on this and other boards. Do some research, ask some questions here if they haven't been asked previously, and go for it. You'll do fine on your own. All of us had a first time and somehow survived to tell about it.
Save your bucks for the girls- don't give it to a "guide".

Graham Cooke

07-30-06, 15:05

You may call me old fashioned but I had a bit a problem with this club when we visited in April.

Admittedly it was a cold dank dreary Saturday morning but we found the club in the suburbs of Dortmund and decided to give it a try. You go up some steps to the entrance – it is above a row of shops in a 60s style parade which has seem better days. Knock at the door and the German lady lets you in after extracting 20 Euros entrance fee.

Its worlds apart from World. The latter establishment is professional upmarket, nicely maintained and with a bevy of Eastern Europe’ finest, and, if you are very lucky an English lady might be present.

So we went in, changed in the locker room and inspected the place. The decor (as if anyone is interested) is Tropical Island plastic with a Harley Davidson irrelevantly displayed on the stage (yawn). The pool was cold as was the welcome and the Sauna was yet to be switched on. There was a juke box and every so often one of the girls would stub our her cigarette before getting up to select the next song and sit down to light up another.

There were 4 bored girls on duty sitting on couches. None of them seemed to like each other. There was no conversation, no friendly greeting, nothing. I have been to livelier funeral wakes.

What killed it for me is that they were all fully clothed. I kid you not. No desous just jeans and tee-shirts with the occasional display of cleavage if you were lucky.

So we left.

In summary, Pros - Tropical plastic, shiny motorcycle. Cons - lack of a proper dress code.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for directions for posting a link to a specific report.

Jackyo

07-30-06, 23:55

I am almost certain this is a Red Carpet Club (Roter Teppich Club).

Most of the clubs in this neck of the woods (the Ruhrgebiet) are.

But fully clothed? This is not typical of a Red Carpet Club.

Wanking

07-31-06, 13:17

http://www.fkk-atlantica.info/

Was on a 3 day Dusseldorf/Wuppertal tour last week:

On my first day in Cocoon with my three FKK virgin friends, I got talking to a local guy and told him of my plans to visit Atlantica. He said " Dont bother, its a waste of time, ugly women and a mostly Turkish cliental". Well I wish I would have listened.

So on our second night in Wuppertal, we took a taxi from our hotel, Aal Kate. The taxi cost 20 euro. The club is behind a restaurant, and is a sort of wooden bungalow. Once buzzed in we couldnt believe how warm the place was. The receptionist had little English and said there were only 6 girls on. And almost immediately all 6 girls rushed into reception to see the four new $ signs. With the expection of one girl, the other five were pretty ugly, and there seemed to be no other customers in the place. So we decided to leave, and then got the taxi to FKK Cocoon.

Although we wasted €10 each on taxis, at least we didnt pay the entry fee and then end up leaving after an hour or something.

Wanking

07-31-06, 14:55

3 day trip to Dusseldorf/Wuppertal area with 3 FKK virgin friends. Wednesday 26th July – Friday 28th July 2006

For a physical description of the club and other details see my report from earlier this year.http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=458015&postcount=48

I have now been in FKK Cocoon four times, and I think it is a really great FKK club despite some shortcomings. This club has some very hot sexy women who all provide great as promised sex, and they don’t try to con you on time, like many girls say in FKK Palace these days. The reason it is so good, is because the majority of cliental are local guys who wouldn’t take any shit. This is an advantage of clubs that are away from major cities, they don’t attract too many tourists and foreign businessmen, and therefore the standards of service remain higher.

Prices:
Entry:
€35 entry fee all day for summer months (normally Entry is €50, with €35 being happy hour price)

Sex:
20 mins … €25
40 mins … €50
60 mins … €75

This all includes, Kissing – sometimes DFK, DATY, and covered BJ
BBBJ adds on €10 to each of the above prices.
Anal: €50 extra
CIM: €25

The Pros of this club are:

70% of women are very high quality
The services and sex are excellent.
No rip off women (in my experience)
€25 euro for a basic 20 minute session
€35 entry fee all day for summer months (normally Entry is €50, with €35 being happy hour price)
Limitless bottled beer

The Cons of this club are:

Not enough women (although there was always someone to chose from)
Some old and ugly women (not too many though)
No couch action
No kino
Lack of food – just Sandwiches, sausages, and sweets (There is a big meal on Saturday, but I think they should just charge €50 and lay on a big buffet everyday)
You CANT order food in, from a local pizzeria etc
No pass outs
Lack of facilities - just a Pool and a Sauna. (They should invest in a Jacuzzi)

How the 3 FKK virgins got on:

Well they all talked it about non-stop for weeks before hand, but when we dropped out bags off in Hotel Aal-Kate on the Wednesday morning, and walked the 400 meters to FKK Cocoon, they were very nervous indeed. Once in the club their nerves settled, but in the end, they didn’t end up fucking anything like the number of women they talked about. In the 3 days, 2 guys did 3 women, and the other guy only did 2 women. Wan King did 9 women, and even came twice with the first girl! To be honest I can’t see the FKK virgins going on another FKK trip. Although they claimed they sort of enjoyed it. So FKKs are not for everyone.

The sex I had:

Well in all my years of having sex with prostitutes, I had some of my best sex ever over the 3 days in Cocoon. 5 out of the 9 sessions were really memorable. I had no bad sessions. The best though was with this Moroccan girl, who has really fat legs and a massive ass. At the end of the 40-minute session, I had an orgasm that lasted about 20 seconds, and an ejaculation that hit the wall of the room. It was really something. God I’m getting horny thinking about it again. Due to the high quality of women, I didn’t do any 20-minute sessions. 20 minutes isn’t enough for me, all my sessions were 40 minutes with the BBBJ option.

One problem with FKK Cocoon is that it can be a little boring between the sessions, there is little or no couch action, like in the Frankfurt clubs, and they don’t have a kino where sex takes place like the Frankfurt clubs. You can however have your session on a couch, or on the big bed in the middle of the club. Not all girls do this though, but most seem to. On our last night there, the guys dared me to have sex with this gorgeous girl on the big bed. So I said I would if they paid for it. They agreed to pay the €35 for 20 minutes with a BBBJ. I climbed on the bed with the girl and we started at it, but with the guys being so close and laughing their heads off I couldn’t get erect, so that was a failure. I did take that girl to the room later, and we had an awesome session.

Later that night, the club had a birthday party for one of the girls and they set a Sony PS2 with a Karaoke disc in the club, and we all had great fun singing with the naked girls. I was groping them all like mad during it. Great stuff.

Conclusion: Great sex with really beautiful women. The club is slightly boring at times, and doesn’t have excitement of the Frankfurt clubs. Free beer is a great bonus, but lack of food isn’t. Overall rating: 8/10

photos of one of the girls are here:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=490229&postcount=64