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one young guy had a big cock, and he said that the girls dont like to have sex with him for too long at a time. But then there was this older guy, a nice old fella of around 60 who goes to the club about twice a week and has a needle dick, and he was fucking the girls for ages at a time. I saw him do girls missonary for almost an hour.
So it all comes down to pain obviously, the girls dont want a big cock pounding into them all night, while a needle dick is no problem.
That explains why I had three or four girls around me every time I started with one of them.
After that 4 days in partytreff Dorsten I am finding it hard to cum back down to earth. I cant concentrate on anything other the the sexy women of that club. I have masturbated 5 times in the past 24 hours just thinking about the all sex I had there.
For anyone considering going there, well JUST FUCKING GO THERE.. you will have the time of your life..
After that 4 days in partytreff Dorsten I am finding it hard to cum back down to earth. I cant concentrate on anything other the the sexy women of that club.
I know exactly what you mean, I'm stil dreaming about my previous FKK tour too. I'm now far away from Europe and ISG is the only link left to those memories. I realize that the addiction is getting stronger and stronger, it's getting more difficult to get back to normal life. I have allready cross a few personal borders and I'm losing a bit control. I was protected by the distance with the FKK scene, it allowed me to separate easily my normal life from my mongering life. But now I'm seriously thinking of changing my life and living closer to the action, which is probably not the best solution. It's a new phase in my mongering career, and I need to calm down. But...I LOVE WOMEN!
Xavier Yves
06-23-06, 18:07
thanks for compliment, wang king. :)
Size could be an explaination. I also noticed a Germany gue who ha a big dick. And whenever he had the sex, girls always spent lots of time on BJ, little time on sex. But I found girls are used to doing this already, whoever the guy is, they will help each other to make guys cum fast. Understandable.
I did notice if you have two or more girls at a time, only one will do bbbj...the others will let you lick and use their hands...but no multiple girl bbbj's. I did have a threesome where the girl i wanted to do the bbbj'ing was beaten to the punch by another girl...but i did get the hot one to do some bbbj action after they pulled out a wet nap and wiped off little breadman some.
And if your doing a duo with two girls you have to change condoms before going into the other girl...
Wow - WanKing - great report. I see it's already made the ROD.well deserved.
A few comments to make:
As I've written previously, I visited on a Tues. nite and contrary to the other mostly 2nd hand reports here, it was great. There may have been more men than usual, although I only counted around 20 at any given time, but there were 11 women, so they increased the woman staff to handle the additional demand. There was always someone available. At 88 Euro for all the sex that you want, it was an unbelievable value.
I drove up from Dusseldorf, no more than a 30 minute drive, so the option also exists to stay there and drive up. Easy to find with Map 24 or the club's own directions.
The night that I was there, it was a little chilly, so there wasn't alot of outdoor activity, but the garden looked nice, and I had 1 session with 2 girls in that outside hut.
I've never had a problem "performing" in public. It's a matter of modesty and self-confidence which by the way is exactly the same for public speaking or performing on stage. Many people have an issue with speaking before a group of more than 3 people. They will probably have a problem ****ing before more than 3 people too. If you're a monger at FKK clubs, you may probably have gotten over the modesty part, although hiding behind a small towel, may give some guys a "security blanket". But performing in public, is something that you have to train for if you're not used to it. In Dorsten, there's nowhere to hide.
WanKing has described the open anything goes atmosphere perfectly. It's a gangbang going on in front of your eyes, and nothing can prepare you for it if you haven't already been to one. Many of us may have experienced one or more of these during our college days, but usually it would have been with fraternity buddies or other people that you are familiar with. Here, everyone is a stranger, so if you have performance jitters, there's no one to hold your hand.
But, no one really cares, if how, when , how many times you perform. It's up to you, no one's keeping score. Just want to watch, go ahead. Just want to masturbate, go ahead. Just want to lick, that's up to you.
Once you've found a place big enough to rest your butt on that big bed, you're part of it. It's not for romance - it's to get your rocks off and everyone is having a great time doing it.
Iseeu,
Thanks for your take on Wanking's report about this 'sex-phenomenon' club. Just wondering about your personal ratings of the girls' looks there. I ask because, as we all know, each person has there own perspectives on female beauty and sexiness. But you are a fequent visitor to clubs like World and Oase, so I was wondering if you could compare the looks-level at PT Dorsten with what one might find at those mainstream FKKs. Are we talking the same level? or do the Dorsten girls fall far short of the mark in terms of looks (not performance!)?
Thanks,
Ortos
The best Dorsten girls fall a good bit short of the mark in terms of looks compared with the Top FKK girls.
I know you asked Iseeu but in case i didnt clarify that in the report that is my opinion.
Dorsten women are still sexy enough for me though.
Anyway i dont see women really in the 0-10 scale anymore. These days women now fall into three categories for me:
1) DOG
2) FUCKABLE
3) HOT
About half the Dorsten women are HOT.
The best Dorsten girls fall a good bit short of the mark in terms of looks compared with the Top FKK girls.
I know you asked Iseeu but in case i didnt clarify that in the report that is my opinion.
Dorsten women are still sexy enough for me though.
Anyway i dont see women really in the 0-10 scale anymore. These days women now fall into three categories for me:
1) DOG
2) FUCKABLE
3) HOT
About half the Dorsten women are HOT.
.. or as the Germans say "Ausstrahlung" (or her aura, if you want to put it that way).
Its not so much about looks but also her personality, intelligence and other factors.
There are very good looking women out there who go through the motions and deliver the basic services but you can tell that they really aren't into it. This does not make for a particularly good experience.
Then there are not so good looking women who give it their all and make you feel you are their one and only lover.
The PT Dorsten women will get it up for me and thats enough for me, generally.
Ortos et al,
Hmmmmm- again this is highly subjective, but IMO most would crack the lower FKK look levels, none would match the top model types seen at most of the major FKKs. Some would not make it at an FKK.
On the other hand compared to most of the partytreffs that I've been to the general quality of the Dorsten women is very high.
And it's been said before, we need though to consider the general aura, attitude, vibes, etc., and almost all of the women at Dorsten are eminently f***able, which I cannot say for all of the women at the FKKs.
I appreciate being asked to play the role of Yoda- so go young man and may the force be with you....
Frankfurter
06-30-06, 15:13
Since the Wan King suggested that I should avoid the Dorsten "Happy Day" on Tuesday (88 Euros) because of the large number of men, I went yesterday, Thursday. Wow!!! This expression barely captures the event! Thursday was the WC soccer-free day of the week therefore lots of guys at the club. The fellow mongers represented a broad spectrum of nationalities, generally a very nice crowd. I went at 2.30p.m., and stayed until 11.30p.m.
Eight girls between their early to late 20’ were present. When I arrived, the atmosphere was really laid back, very nice. After changing and taking a quick shower, I was just sitting down at the bar sipping my first beer when Angie, a very nice sexy German girl, mid-20’, started talking to me. Well, it took her maybe 15 seconds to make me follow her upstairs to the “center court” (the large playground). Only a few other guys and girls were playing at that time.
Angie was very nice, real GFE, which I didn’t expect there, especially not from a German girl. Typically I prefer other nationalities in German clubs, since sometimes the German girls seem to maintain an attitude. Angie was the exception, a real sexy sweetie, besides BBBJ and fucking lots of wet and great kissing, not rushed whatsoever.
But only for the first part of the day!
Let’s say, after 5p.m. the place got so crowded that it turned into an unbelievable non-stop fucking orgy! In Germany I have been to the old Atlantis, Oase, World, and another smaller FKK in the Frankfurt area, whose names I can’t recall, but I can truly say that NOTHING compares to this place! The girls are –in general—amazing and really deserve huge credit: They were almost non-stop performing, and with a great attitude (and later that night also with lots of vaginal lubrication)! Respect! During the nine hours I was there, each of the girls must have sucked and fucked probably between 30-50 times, maybe more. Unbelievable!
OK, a couple of details:
--Nicole: Hot Turkish girl in her late 20’, slim, great body, she operates the bar and is therefore “off-limits”—unfortunately. I asked her about it but she said that there are so many girls that I should not try my luck with her. True, but still…
--Angie: Very sexy German girl, short, blond, super performer, a little meaty, but super ass and tasty and very nice shaven pussy. First and long session with her was a long DATY, 69, and BBBJ, as I said, GFE, sexy kisses. She belongs to the group of girls which do not reside on the premises. Drives a nice Opel Corsa convertible. Later in the evening, since the place got so crowded, there was just “conveyor-belt fucking and sucking”, no DATY chance, or cuddling, whatsoever!
--Natasha: BBW, late twenties, Polish girl, a little over weight, but nice tan, big ass. I had a session with her with BBBJCIM, which she didn’t appreciate. I can not really recommend her.
--Vicky: Polish girl, petite, spectacular breasts, very nice. Not shaved therefore no DATY, at least not what I’m concerned. OK session, not really recommendable but great body. (BTW: The partytreff in Dorsten seems to be a silicon-free zone, which I greatly appreciate!)
There was a young blond Polish girl whose name I can’t recall. I didn’t have a session with her, but she had an amazing, hard and sexy body, small ass. She was a little bit the Star there.
In general:
Downstairs at the bar and the main areas the girls were dressed, more or less, and worked really hard, all with a great attitude. Upstairs between 8pm and the time I left there were constantly all areas occupied between 10 and 14 people each and another eight to ten guys were watching and/or waiting. (For a few hours the special attraction was a nice black fellow with an enormous cock, maybe the length and circumference of my forearm. The girls liked him, but none of them wanted to sit on him, you should have seen them trying to suck that thing!)
The club is very clean, the sauna is great, the premises are nice, almost a mini-Atlantis; the Papasan is a massive Croatian(?) guy who is a really nice guy.
For me the amazing thing is to get sucked or fuck on a bed the size of a quarter tennis court with the next sexy girls and guys just inches away! Really amazing! So much hotter than the typical FKK one-on-one, I think, but opinions may vary.
Following the King’s advice I stayed at the Hotel Humbert, nice, very reasonable place, nice room, new furniture for Euro 34, incl. breakfast, although the place has a somewhat strange smell to it, which is hard to describe.
If someone likes to stay really spectacularly, I would recommend staying at the nearby castle, Lembeck, for just 12 Euros more, and maybe 3km further away. Very nice!
http://www.schloss-lembeck.de/
I left a happy man, and, its true what the King writes: When you are back at the hotel you get so horny after a while contemplating all the amazing experiences.
Very recommended.
Frankfurter
06-30-06, 15:45
For whatever its worth:
I forgot:
The food is well below par, yesterday just spaghetti with a meat sauce, nothing else.
But I think we dont go to a partytreff or FKK because of the food, right?
ok, this Dorsten club is starting to sound pretty interesting. I have one question to you guys: When you arrive early at the club, say before noon, are most of the girls present already?
Chivaz
Chivaz,
thats a very good question and the answer is yes, most girls are present from the off, and also late a night can be great during the week, say the last hour. But for sure early is the best cos the girls are fresh, and you can have upto 3 girls at once. Also you have your pick, and you might be able to manage a nice long session with one girl if you wish.
Frankfurter, great report man :D
When you mentioned the "bed the size of a 1/4 tennis court", it reminded me that your day there feels like a bit like being a sub on a football team. You spend a lot of time on the sideline, and then sometimes you get to play !!! and when you play its the best game ever.
Frankfurter, are you sure there werent Breadrolls, Salami and cheese?? When I was there, these were provided from open to dinner time, and then replenished after dinner till close.
Frankfurter, are you sure there werent Breadrolls, Salami and cheese?? When I was there, these were provided from open to dinner time, and then replenished after dinner till close.
Don't know if things have changed but when I was there in January, they had hot food served at about 4 PM. There was a hot meat dish, a hot vegetable and if I remember correctly potatoes.
Granted their beer isn't anything to write home about but the food was pretty decent and hot.
Maybe it has something to do with the day of the week.
It was brought by the owner of Hotel Haus Schuermann from down the street.
He comes to deliver the food and runs into the Breadman who he recognizes as we had just checked in to get the keys at about noon. Both of them are surprised to run into each other.
That next morning when we were having breakfast at the hotel he waits for his wife to leave the room and he comes over and winks at me and at the Breadman to indicate that he knew what we were up to the day before.
He's a cool dude, not German, speaks with a kind of Slavic accent.
We stayed again with him last May and he remembered us.
Hi guys,
Thanks for the additional info on Dorsten.
Reading through the Dorsten reports, I find no Sunday visit. Do you know if Sundays are business as usual with same qty of girls?
Chivaz
btw Wan, great report, thanks for making the effort doing the details.
Frankfurter
06-30-06, 20:12
After my long session (maybe two hours) early afternoon with the German girl Angie she said: "Let's go down eat something", which we did. There were the noodles with the meat (hmmm, when I think of meat! Sorry...) and nothing else.
We went outside and she said "I'll go inside and get us some Parmesan cheese and Tabasco." (She was so nice that she even brought me a new beer. But no parmesan and/or Tabasco was available.)
The bolognese sauce was actually pretty ok.
But again, its not because of the food.
Concering time of day/quality:
I entirely agree with Wanking:
The girls are much more sensuous and take their time in the early hours.
Later they had a fair amount of intercourse with some fifty guys or more, it was just a pretty raw mass sex orgy, but unbelievably sexy.
...but its almost 2 weeks since my PT Dorsten adventure, and I am still feeling sexually satisfied. Normally about 1 week after a sex trip I revert back to my old sexually frustrated self, but all that fucking really took its toll on me.
Ok I am still wanking like hell every night, but I am not getting a stiffy every time I see a young woman like I do most of the time !!!!
Frankfurter
07-01-06, 15:06
Here comes a piece of --maybe unwanted--advice to folks new to German partytreff or FKK clubs:
What I've learned in places such as the old Atlantis, Oase, and World where they don't serve alcohol (forget the expensive French champagne at World) is, that, if you really want to have a long, super satisfying afternoon/evening in a partytreff and maybe fuck four or five times sexy, horny, beautiful girls (or more) over the course of a day:
--DON'T DRINK BEER! (Or any other alcohol, if available)
(Besides, the stuff they have at Dorsten tastes like ..., any mineral water tastes five times better!)
OK, maybe one or two beers after you get to the club, just to calm your nerves down a little that should be OK.
To soak up the atmosphere and fuck a good number of girls is so much better without being buzzed, according to the old saying: "I want to know when I'm having fun!"
Cheers, and if you haven't been in one of those places, get in a fucking train/plane/automobile and GO!
Frankfurter
07-01-06, 15:11
This Dorsten day and the fucking really killed almost all my brain cells:
I forgot to add something concerning Dorsten what I thought was a big relief:
None of the girls had a tattoo! Girls, thank you very much!
This Dorsten day and the fucking really killed almost all my brain cells:
I forgot to add something concerning Dorsten what I thought was a big relief:
None of the girls had a tattoo! Girls, thank you very much!
This place gets my endorsement as I find it a relief too.
I'm not into hookers who look like hookers.
If you scratch the surface the women here are just your typical Polish girl next door, most likely not even from a large city but some farm village.
I would rank PT Dolce Vita in Wagenfeld a notch below this club but you can forget about PT Muenster and PT Osnabrueck. They are just not the same Stimmungs-wise and quality-wise.
PT Mettmann is on a different plane entirely. Go to have a good time and some laughs (and some sex) but don't go if you are only into visual stimulation.
Anybody been to the MFZ in Krefeld (Mitfickzentrale)? I've read a couple things about it.
Kind of like the Pauschalpreisparties they used to have at La Bedo and Blue Note in Duesseldorf (since discontinued and no longer offered at either club): a smaller selection of women, one price for as much activity as you want (Zeitbegrenzt), lots of group activity.
Sounds a club like this would be the place for a newbie to start (I know since its at these Pauschalpreisparties that I first got into the public sex scene).
If you scratch the surface the women here are just your typical Polish girl next door, most likely not even from a large city but some farm village.
Jackyo so true mate,
I have been thinking alot about those little Polish girls, and they are mostly simple poor peasant's daughters. No tats, minimal piercings, most with very little make up, and many homemade hairstyles.
But the one I think about most is Michelle, God she is a lovely little thing. About 23, 165 cm, slim with lovely perky tits, really soft sallow lightly tanned skin, big blue eyes, and shoulder lenght brown hair tied back. She was there the 4 days I was there, and down stairs she always wore these simple little cotton summer dresses, and pink flip-flops. But what sets her apart is her lovely sweet manner. What a girl.
Dick Rambone
07-02-06, 00:39
WK,
Are the girls in Dorsten the same or similar to the ones on their web site?
Dick
Later they had a fair amount of intercourse with some fifty guys or more, it was just a pretty raw mass sex orgy, but unbelievably sexy.
There were a lot fewer guys on a Tuesday night than that. 50 guys - where did they all sit?
Dick,
I didnt see any of the girls from the website in the club. I believe none of those girls are there now. The website seems out of date and doesnt do the club or its facilities justice.
Beaver Liquor
07-03-06, 06:22
Just curious about two things. What is the difference between a PartyTreff club and a FKK club? Can you have sex in a FKK club as much as you want for a one time price, like PartyTreff? Also, can anyone advice me on the closest PartTreff club to Prague?
Thanks in advance guys.
Hoosier - If you look at the reports of disinction thread and pick up the two posts from the late lamented Wizard you will get a good idea
Basic premise is that you pay an entrance fee and then everything is free. Quality of service can be at least up with the best of FKK service. The women tend to be less attractive.
Partytreff can shade into swingerclub. Beverly is an example where you get the paid women plus some genuine women there for a good night out. This means you can (if very lucky) get sex with soemone who is only there because they love sex.
The Ruhr area is the most lively for swingerclub/partytreff combinations
http://www.fkk-extasia.de/index2.htm. I recieve a pm from a kind member about this.
Hi,
I am staying overnight in Frankfurt on July 19th and was concidering going to PT Dorsten or Mettman for the night instead of the usual Oase or Palace. I guess we all need a change.
Does anyone have train directions and recommendations. Is it worth the trip? I have to be back at the frankfurt airport at 2 the following day.
Thanks for the help
That's a very long trip - Dorsten is about an half hour's drive northeast from Dusseldorf. So figure at least a 2.5 hour car ride.
For train info try the DieBahn website.
Hi guys,
Thanks for the additional info on Dorsten.
Reading through the Dorsten reports, I find no Sunday visit. Do you know if Sundays are business as usual with same qty of girls?
Chivaz
btw Wan, great report, thanks for making the effort doing the details.I am coming to the Dusseldorf eria on monday next week. I usually do the Cocoon and Happy Garden when I am around in this eria.
Somethimes Golden time as well. I never heard about Dorsten and would like to know from someone who was in the clubbs latly what is the best place in the moment.
Thank you, and if someone is around next week lets meet.
Feel free to PM me.
I am coming to the Dusseldorf eria on monday next week. I usually do the Cocoon and Happy Garden when I am around in this eria.
Somethimes Golden time as well. I never heard about Dorsten and would like to know from someone who was in the clubbs latly what is the best place in the moment.
If you are asking for a comparison of PT Dorsten to GT or Cocoon or Happy Garden, the PT experience is so totally different from an FKK experience that I wouldn't know where to begin.
If you haven't been yet to a PT, you should go at least once.
I would consider Cocoon and Heavensgate (an FKK club in Dorsten) comparable quality-wise, service-wise, etc... I would prefer Heavensgate over Cocoon because it has a much simpler Abrechnungsystem and you are less likely to have a problem with billing.
I am not a fan of PHG for various reaons including it being the only club I've been refused service at. Maybe you have had better experiences there manuevering in the crowded Kontaktarea and in getting the girl you want despite competition from the Stammkunde. I think its way too crowded for my taste.
I have never been to Goldentime but my travel companion from my last trip, Breadman, swears by it. He spent four days in a row there in May.
In the Golden Triangle, I would do Wildenrath before I did PHG. It has just gone through a renovation and a revision of their pricing scheme. You would be amongst the first to check it out.
In the Dorsten area I would do both the PT and Heavensgate. I would be perfectly happy going between one club and the other. In fact, I just may do that the next time I am there.
There is, of course, a huge selection of other clubs between the Golden Triangle and Dorsten.
http://www.partytreff-mettmann.de/messeservice.asp
Anyone has news of Partytreff Pegassus?
The website states a new address and the owners seem to be Liz & Werner. Last time I went it was Nan and Peter and the club was located at Bankstrasse. I went 6 times to Pegassus and I always had a great experience. Is it still as good?
Also Beverly was constantly presend in this thread but not anymore. Is it still any good?
Thanks.
Nan and Peter sold and left Pegasus more than a year ago. The new owners changed the business model and never grew a dedicated clientele like Nan did. Apparently, the new owners have now closed down the Bankstrasse location.
Beverly is still going great. I plan to visit there this week with some special friends. It's still one of the best sex clubs on the planet....
Thanks Iseeu.
The new owners [...] never grew a dedicated clientele like Nan did.
Big loss as I loved this place. I even stayed in one of the appartments they rented. They offered erotic breakfast for their appartment guests. Just imagine Natascha in the morning.
Beverly is still going great. I plan to visit there this week with some special friends. It's still one of the best sex clubs on the planet....
Apart from the weekend, what is the best day for Beverly? I wanted to visit next Wednesday.
If anyone is going to be at PT Dorsten tomorrow (wednesday) please let me know. I am gonna take the 3.5 hour train ride from frankfurt (life is too short to not try everything) and then back the following morning.
I promise a full report
Apart from the weekend, what is the best day for Beverly? I wanted to visit next Wednesday.
I was able to translate the site and the best day seems to be on Wednesday in-between the bi-night and the SM night.
http://www.partytreffdorsten.de/november/pages/DSC00817.htm
Only discovered this tonite, but i think the girl on the very left is the assistant bar maid these days. One of the guys told me that she used to be one of the sex workers in the club, but gave it up a year ago to do barmaid. Id say this photo could be two years old. If it is her, her hair is different now.
Here I am geeking out over little details as usual...
I know this is off topic but another place I visited for break from sex in the Dorsten area is the theme park, movie world.
http://www.moviepark.de/moviepark/home/index_en.cfm?lg=en
Ok its a family place, and If you have been to the theme parks in Florida you will have seen it all before, but its an option if u want a break from "our kind of theme parks"
Wednesday is a good night - the third best. In order I would suggest Sat, Fri then Wed.
Enjoy
Thanks Iseeu.
Big loss as I loved this place. I even stayed in one of the appartments they rented. They offered erotic breakfast for their appartment guests. Just imagine Natascha in the morning.
Apart from the weekend, what is the best day for Beverly? I wanted to visit next Wednesday.
If anyone is going to PT Dorsten, PM me. I think I will be there this Saturday 22nd from 12:00 lunchtime! I am following Wan King's excellent recent report!
hi,
i am staying overnight in frankfurt on july 19th and was considering going to pt dorsten or mettman for the night instead of the usual oase or palace. i guess we all need a change.
does anyone have train directions and recommendations. is it worth the trip? i have to be back at the frankfurt airport at 2 the following day.
thanks for the help2 am or pm (02.oo or 14.oo by german timekeeping)?
fra (rhein-main) or frankfurt hahn-hunsrueck, the fake fra flown into by ryan and other budget als?
dorsten/mettmann seem a bit far from fra. maybe 3-4 hrs by train, longer by car unless you are comfortable at speeds over 100 mph (162km/h), know the way, and the weather cooperates.
check http://bahn.de
your station for fra will be frankfurt flughafen fernbahnhof
(= fra airport long distance stn)
instead: hire a guide with a good vehicle if you can afford it. pm me if interested. i use vans and motorhomes only.
best airport for dorsten and mettmann, even cologne: dus (duesseldorf)
This place gets my endorsement as I find it a relief too.
I'm not into hookers who look like hookers.
If you scratch the surface the women here are just your typical Polish girl next door, most likely not even from a large city but some farm village.
Sounds a club like this would be the place for a newbie to start (I know since its at these Pauschalpreisparties that I first got into the public sex scene).Your observation about the Polish girls is almost correct. I grew up speaking German and Polish born in the former German possessions), so I can still converse a bit with them.
These are normal girls, from average family backgrounds, but usually from cities, not villages where rigid Catholic religion runs people's lives. They often are students from academic or working families impoverished after the demise of the communist regime. They grew up in the socialist ethic which believes in open sexuality and nudism.
There have been many songs in German culture about the "Polish wonen's loveliness" and this still holds true. I appreciate the lack of tattoos, make up, and fancy hair treatments. Other EE have a harder edge, esp the Czechs who have a reputation in Germany for "Zickigkeit" (bitchiness, lit: like goats)
Frankfurter
07-21-06, 18:39
one week ago (friday) i went to the mettmann place, near wuppertal. if you rtff you know the skinny about the place. i arrived around 6pm and stayed till closing (12 midnight). i was greeted by the older, little heavier red-haired lady (as seen on their web site) and, although it was my first time at the place, she was very nice and personable.
ok, the typical routine: locker room, change into towel or briefs, whatever you prefer. i went then up to the premises in the 2nd floor, only a few hobbyists were present and three other ladies. the lady behind the bar asked sabine, a long legged, 6ft. lady in her late 30s (attitude: 10, looks: 7-8) to show me around, which she did. i got already horny by following her and staring at her very sexy ass and long legs. ok, she showed me all the rooms and in the last one she kind of raped me, pushed me down on the bed, ripped the towel off, here we go! very nice. anyway, cleaning, and back to the bar where the lady (owner’s wife?) smiled and said that sabine obviously didn’t just showed me the club but more.
anyway, from that nice start the evening developed, great sex with all of the girls, the short haired lady, which is also on the web site, was particularly nice (attitude: 8, looks: 7). also a first (at least for me at a german partytreff club): she was very accommodating when it came to ass fucking. other than that, a great evening, lots of communal fucking, talking with all the girls, the day after no sore throat from the daty, which proofs it, must be a classy place!
the club is a lot of fun, food is edible, drinks are plenty, atmosphere is great, and interior decoration is done with love and taste. i went to the sauna also, nothing too exciting in terms of outdoor space.
highly recommended.
if i have time i will go back! (although as we know, girls come and go and it is more or less hit-and-miss)
We returned to Beverly and will post asap. But first we will do a basic description of Beverly as some members have asked us what it is
Basically it is a mix of a partytreff and a swingerclub. There are a number of women arranged by the club to meet the needs of single men, but in addition there are couples who attend, some of whom are willing to share with single men
The website is www.beverly2000.net. You will find the programme of events there. The basic programme is that Monday is FKK night ( basically that means that people are naked including the staff) Tuesday is bi night, Thursday SM night and Friday and Saturday have a disco operating, plus also massage (by a man for the ladies and a lady for the men) There are frequent themed events. On the first Tuesday of each month there is a gangbang. So – check the site calendar – there are occasional pair only nights (usually the last Saturday each month). Cost for a solo man is from 70 to 150E – depending on the night of the week
The club is for people who like sex, or want to show off. On party nights (Saturday) many of the people there go to simply show off their bodies in sexy clothes (or lack of) and do some dancing
Bi night includes TVs and TSs, as well as straight people, and bi people.
The best thing for a solo man to wear is black string or boxer shorts (t-shirt optional) But you could go naked or dressed up in boots, stockings etc – and yes that includes men. If you are prudish don’t go
On arrival there is ample parking (slightly scruffy looking) – for perhaps 200 cars. On Saturdays this often gets filled to overflowing, and you will be guided in by staff (they may ask you if you are staying all night in order to guide you to the right place)
Except on Fridays and Saturdays you enter by the side entrance. You ring the bell and will be welcomed in. The door staff are usually very very welcoming. Once inside you give your name and pay your money. You will be given a locker key – and if it is your first time you will be shown to the lockers
The entrance fee includes unlimited wine, food and other drinks including spirits. There are always several choices of main meal, vegetables, salads, fish, cheese, desserts. The catering is of a high German style standard. The food is in a long narrow room,
The fee also includes all the sex you can get !!
What you get depends on you and who else turns up. The regular women engaged by the club are usually very pleasant – but be warned – If you are after an Optikfick you will be disappointed. However many of the visiting women are very good looking (and remember they are there simply for the sex or entertainment not the money). This will become more obvious when we do the report on what happened the night we were there
On the ground floor there are about four showers, toilets, a bar, an area adjacent to the bar (total seating around 40 places), a room with SM equipment in, plus several rooms with ground level mattresses. This area is set up so that you can walk by and through each room in a circle. There is also the dining area, and (when it is open) the disco area with its own bar (the disco probably can take 300 people), and a shop to buy erotic wear. On the second floor there are another half-dozen rooms (one is an SM room), two of which are reserved for couples only. On most Fridays and Saturdays this area is offlimits to solo men. There is also a third floor which is opened when the club is jampacked. The building is not palatial or particularly stylish, but generally it works well
The protocol is that the women engaged by the club will be available for you whenever you want. They will either be in the bar or laying around in one of the rooms. They will (as far as I know) not do anal sex, and tend to work with one man at a time (but not always) They will also work in pairs (two women with one man).
If you see a woman who is there as a guest, the chances are she is with a male partner. You will not know whether she is there to have sex with him only, to watch, to swap with another couple, or to have sex with men who have not come with a partner. The way to find out is –
1, If they go to a couples only areas then that is an obvious negative answer
2. If they start sex anywhere else you can try your luck by seeing if either of them give you positive eye contact, or by getting in close proximity and making the lightest of physical contacts – what you do next will depend on the response (they may be happy to have sex or may want just to limit it to some foreplay). Most couples do not share with solo men
3. If you start a conversation with a couple then this could lead to an invitation to join in, Such conversations are easiest started in the bar – don’t think you need to impress the woman. Many of the couples speak good English and are happy to have a conversation
All sex is in public. If the staff like what they see then sometimes they turn the lighting up!! Don’t be surprised if you draw a small crowd..
This means that it is unpredictable but the rewards can be worth it – there are sometimes stunning women there – and remember- they are there because they want sex not to get 50 euros off you
If anyone has any questions then PM us and we’ll reply or amend the post to answer them
Shiatsu and Cordelia
Frankfurter
07-21-06, 19:23
OK, the great experience at the Mettmann place was Friday; Dolce-Vita (see this forum for location etc.) was Saturday. What a disaster!
I made the BIG, BIG mistake to waste expensive petrol and time to travel some hundred kilometers from Wuppertal north to Diepholz/Wagenfeld, first, since the club was recommended by a fellow monger, and second, because of their announcement on the web that two porn mega-stars would be present on Saturday for ass fucking and the rest.
BIG mistake.
The club’s receptionist is some skinny, unfriendly lad, who treats you like crap. Ok, after I turned my 120 euros over, I went to the moldy downstairs locker space, changed, went upstairs. Time was around 3pm. The mood between the girls at the club was kind of tense, unpleasant. Except for the nice sauna, there is nothing what I would list in the “pro” department for this place. The counterpart of the male receptionist is an equally skinny and even less pleasant female bar keeper, maybe from Serbia or somewhere. She would make it as the *****-queen, no doubt.
The owner is a very short, meaty orangutan maybe also from Bulgaria or Serbia ho runs around yelling at the girls and complaining about the local building code people, who told him to move the wooden shacks three meters back from the neighbors wall. That would screw up the already small outside courtyard, no doubt. At one time I was sitting with Mia which I had sex with earlier (mid twenties, German, very nice, super-firm natural tits, attitude: 1, looks: 6) and another girl on a porch swing when this guy came running yelling at the two girls that they should get their asses up and put at least a towel underneath. What Mia then explained was also pretty new to me: The girls are not supposed to sit with the clients too long, nor should they have sex too long with them! And that in a place where you can basically stay as long as you want! Ridiculous. Although this also contributes to the overall unpleasant atmosphere of the place.
Food is horrible, the bar ***** later refused to give me another drink since they have a “three beer max. policy!” That was hard to swallow and off I went (and will definitely never come back!)
OK, on a mellower note:
There is a lady, petite, good body, not too exciting face-wise, very nice pleasant non-pro attitude, WHICH GIVES AN AMAZING WET, FIRM BBBJCIM! She was CONSTANTLY busy, no wonder. Her name is Marion, short, reddish hair, very nice!
Too bad that she works in such a dump!
Frankfurter,
thx for sharing those experiences. looks like i wont bother ever heading to wagenfeld.
Yesterday we posted about Beverly Basics. This post is what we did (and didn’t) do
We went on a Wednesday, arriving about 6.45, just in time to catch the food opening, eating always being our first action. It was cool despite outside temperatures of 34C
There were about 10 couples and a similar number of single men when we arrived. This rose to about double that number during the course of the evening. Plus of course about half a dozen women engaged by the club.
As for looks. There were some very nice looking men and women. Women wise there was a sexy looking women (around 30) with a male partner – she had piercings and a seriously sexy air. We are not sure if she had sex with anybody. There was also a stunning mid 20s woman with lip piercing, tattoos, very short skirt, long legs, orange hair, and enhanced breasts. She was with a male/female couple. Shiatsu is the pickiest person on earth but definitely would have gone through some hoops for this girl – if she had offered him the opportunity of some training. However, as Beverly is primarily a nightout for Cordelia, he concentrated on looking after her. The orange haired girl was taken up by a muscular young black man so perhaps Shiatsu would have stood no chance anyway? The black man spent about an hour talking with the girl before they went off to a room as two couples – they eventually chose a couples only room.
Cordelia and Shiatsu started in what is called the Fummel room. Basically a small dark room with only a bench. It is the most usual place for couples to go who want men to join in, so we quickly had some attention. And it was a way to get over nerves – jump in the deep end. About eight men had been with Cordelia, (only one anal and only come in mouth so quite tame!!) when we stopped for a pause after an hour and had showers and some more food. All of the men were great (apart from one who was drunk) and we had brief conversations with several of them as the night went on – usually the conversations started with compliments of Cordelia’s skills and body. Somehow nobody ever compliments her on her fine mind.
By this time we found that Iseeu had arrived. As he was partially responsible for our first ever visit to Beverly it was nice to see him. (We had previously met him at World, (where he had the distinction of being the last man standing at the first monger meeting two years ago, and also of going with Cordelia on her first trip to World). We felt a bit pressured by the fact that the club would be closing at midnight and that there were still men untouched by Cordelia – and that there might be a sudden rain of women on Shiatsu
Cordelia and Iseeu went off together. Shiatsu stayed in the bar hoping that the new aftershave would work silent magic. He found a friendly German man instead and talked about the German economy, politics and cultural mores. The one thing you can get in Germany – even in a sex club – is good intelligent conversation. The novelty of this for Shiatsu (steeped in English style conversation – inconsequential feigned daftness) and his English politeness meant he lost half-hour potential girl searching. However a conversation of how the world works, if not its meaning, is always welcome
Meanwhile Cordelia and Iseeu had branched out. Iseeu, being a true and committed monger, had taken the opportunity of being with Cordelia to attract another couple so he could swap. In a swingerclub this is a good technique – you stand less chance of getting with a couple if you are a solo man. In fact the “couple” turned out to be one woman and three men from Belgium. They were very nice and the session ended with a conversation in French and English, from which we discovered that “moules” does not just mean mussels.
Another break for showers and food, Shiatsu and Cordelia went off to a room and were immediately joined by a couple who had been tracking Cordelia. The man was very good looking. The woman started making approaches to Shiatsu. As we have said, he is the most picky man but he felt it would be impolite to refuse so he got involved. She was very pleasant but Shiatsu was glad when Cordelia had finished with the man so he could get off the woman. His honour was redeemed by the fact that he got her to orgasm - his first duty as a monger. We said hello to them several times later
Shower
Cordelia had a session with a man – the men were getting tired and exhausted. A member of staff came and turne dup the light so he could get a better look
One final session with Shiatsu and Iseeu. Leading to a nice climax to the evening around 11.40. A couple more men were interested but we had run out of time. The evening ended with a chat with a nice man who examined Cordelia’s breasts in great detail (we will leave Iseeu to comment on this as he claims to have special surgical knowledge of peanut butter in relation to women’s breasts)
All in all a very enjoyable evening. We hope to go back and feel less pressured. In the meantime Cordelia will be going back to FKK World for a couple of weeks
Sex Luthor
07-22-06, 20:31
Long time lurker, first time poster.
Is it true that the girls dont do CIM or anal in Partytreff?
thx,
SL
Xavier Yves
07-22-06, 22:40
Shiatsu, thanks for great report! Regarding Beverly, it's obvious that it's a swinger club more than a partytreffe. However, I cann't figure out somewhere else could be better for a couple than this place.
Long time lurker, first time poster.
Is it true that the girls dont do CIM or anal in Partytreff?
thx,
SLNo, just did both at Fashion Privatparty, Hersel. It's all up to the women (or men in case it's a bi-night).
that lady is the owner - sylvia. she owns the club with her hubby peter!
one week ago (friday) i went to the mettmann place, near wuppertal. if you rtff you know the skinny about the place. i arrived around 6pm and stayed till closing (12 midnight). i was greeted by the older, little heavier red-haired lady (as seen on their web site) and, although it was my first time at the place, she was very nice and personable.
ok, the typical routine: locker room, change into towel or briefs, whatever you prefer. i went then up to the premises in the 2nd floor, only a few hobbyists were present and three other ladies. the lady behind the bar asked sabine, a long legged, 6ft. lady in her late 30s (attitude: 10, looks: 7-8) to show me around, which she did. i got already horny by following her and staring at her very sexy ass and long legs. ok, she showed me all the rooms and in the last one she kind of raped me, pushed me down on the bed, ripped the towel off, here we go! very nice. anyway, cleaning, and back to the bar where the lady (owner’s wife?) smiled and said that sabine obviously didn’t just showed me the club but more.
anyway, from that nice start the evening developed, great sex with all of the girls, the short haired lady, which is also on the web site, was particularly nice (attitude: 8, looks: 7). also a first (at least for me at a german partytreff club): she was very accommodating when it came to ass fucking. other than that, a great evening, lots of communal fucking, talking with all the girls, the day after no sore throat from the daty, which proofs it, must be a classy place!
the club is a lot of fun, food is edible, drinks are plenty, atmosphere is great, and interior decoration is done with love and taste. i went to the sauna also, nothing too exciting in terms of outdoor space.
highly recommended.
if i have time i will go back! (although as we know, girls come and go and it is more or less hit-and-miss)
If I have time I will go back! (Although as we know, girls come and go and it is more or less hit-and-miss)
I have been to this club several times and the Besatzung is very stable, das heisst, even after an absence of several months you can count on more or less the same women being there.
I have enjoyed myself each time I've been but I think I will be putting a few months in between visits so it doesn't become too predictable.
You can find my listing of the women I have met there somewhere in this thread.
Sabine does have a great body, nice ass and legs. She's had some kind of back operation so be careful. She's nice and quite funny (but then all the women who work there are).
Long time lurker, first time poster.
Is it true that the girls dont do CIM or anal in Partytreff?
thx,
SL
I've seen CIM at Mettmann.
Anal is available at PT Osnabrueck from the girls with red arm bands. Its all included in the price.
Sorry to hear of your bad experience.
I've always had a good time here.
The main difference between this club and PT Dorsten is that you can have one-on-one sessions with the girls in the doorless rooms.
At PT Dorsten everything takes place out in the open.
The food is nothing to write home about. Eat before you go.
Yes, the bar dude can get surly and they do have a limit on beers but its a pretty good deal considering the Preis-Leistungsverhaeltnis.
Xavier - our report was focussed on us as a couple so it may have skewed the impression. It is definitely as much a partytreff as a swinger club. There are always at least half a dozen women engaged by the club. The big difference between it and a straight partytreff is that you get the chance to go with ordinary women who are there just for fun (like me). This is why there are always as many solo men as couples.
We hope to go again in August, after I complete my next two weeks at FKK World
Cordelia
Xavier Yves
07-24-06, 17:23
Xavier - our report was focussed on us as a couple so it may have skewed the impression. It is definitely as much a partytreff as a swinger club. There are always at least half a dozen women engaged by the club. The big difference between it and a straight partytreff is that you get the chance to go with ordinary women who are there just for fun (like me). This is why there are always as many solo men as couples.
We hope to go again in August, after I complete my next two weeks at FKK World
Cordelia
Cordelia, although I never been Beverly before, the previous experiences at other swinger clubs tell me that being a couple have more chances than solo man. The conclusions made by Shiatsu in his post proves this theory, no?
Xavier - it depends what you want. A solo man will not leave Beverly without having had a choice of women. It all depends on your luck which women they are. On the night we were there the man who ended up with the best looking woman (setting aside Cordelia) was a solo man! Very often there will be a couple like us who are willing to share. It is more risky than an FKK - but then the rewards can be great. Beverly is not just a swingerclub - it is also a partytreff (although the women may not appeal to everybody). Some of the visitors are willing to share, unlike most swingerclubs from what I understand
Being part of a couple is not always advantageous - you can get hooked into a couple you don't really fancy thus distracting you from the chase as a solo male. Shiatsu often finds himself with a woman just out of politesse while Cordelia is having a good time with the man.
Shiatsu and Cordelia
Frankfurter
07-25-06, 17:32
Jackyo,
I'm glad that you had good experiences at Dolce-Vita. For me it wasn't an afternoon to write home about. Maybe it had to do with the great time I had at the Mettmann club the day before?
Currently it looks like I might have the time to go back to Mettmann before returning to the US. I will try a Saturday this time.
Yes, correct, Sabine had back surgery, which doesn't prevent her from being a lot of fun!
She also is into racing bicycles (Tour de Mettmann, you know), just as myself. I appreciate her hard legs and soft mouth and juice pussy lips!
Frankfurter
07-25-06, 17:42
This is more for guys like Shiatsu and Cordelia, and not for a loner like myself!
There is a brand new upscale hotel/club in the middle of the woods. Its a very nice part of the country, some 1 1/2 car hours west of Frankfurt (Shiatsu, you wrote that Cordelia is back at World).
They opened July 15/16 with much fanfare, and I would certainly enjoy learning more about it. (Especially since they appear to be pretty pricey and don't admit single mongers)
This is their web site: http://www.funandjoy.de/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,1/lang,de/
I would be curious to hear a report about the place.
Had a great time on a Wednesday night at Bev. Before I begin with my description of the evening seen from my angle (neck twisted to get a good angle at C's twat) as opposed to Shiatsu and Cordelia's, let's clear something up.
A single guy can have a great time at Bev. It all depends on you, your self-confidence, your willingness to take risks, your openess to different types of people.
It's not foolproof, and some nights it's very difficult for an average looking single man to hook up with a couple. Bev has taken care of that by having a safety valve; 4-6 women who sit near the bar and look for single men who are alone/inactive. A single guy never goes away "unshpritzed".
Of course the real rewards, the real excitement comes from making a connection with the couples, the thrill of the hunt that we are genetically designed for, the hot flash that shoots through you when you are invited to join, or when your pleading eyes/caressing hand is met by an inviting smile, the act of giving and receiving pleasure to this new acquaintance who is not envisioning incoming Euro during the course of the act.
As someone who has been to swingerclubs as part of a couple and as a single man, and has some decent mongering experience in venues around the world, I believe that there is nothing more sensuous or fulfilling than making this type of connection with another couple.
The Bev formula is amazing- it goes on night after night, year after year- ordinary people coming together for drinks, chatting, dancing and touching - all of which may lead to taking things further. It's natural, it's healthy, it's unscripted, very un-regimented and it's a hell of a lot of fun.
read previous post first or this will install a plague on your computing device, and cause your wiener to shrivel up like a, well, wiener.
for my report- somehow the scheduling gods all cooperated and i was finally able, (between a trip to the far east and a trip to the middle east) to hook up with s & c again, together. usually, i catch s alone at oase or world, or c at world. they are such nice people, intelligent and fun to be with, and as i have commented before, their relationship to each other is truly unique and inspiring. i am privileged to be able to call them my friends. to paraphrase from my introduction- there is nothing more sensuous or fulfilling than making this type of connection with another couple.
arrived at about 7:30 had a drink and made the rounds to scout out the action - still fairly quiet. having left my gps device in the car, i had to follow the moans and screams to find c being pummeled in the fummel room, with loyal s guarding her flank. true gentleman that i am, i couldn't join the pummel line for c without having a chat and a drink first, so i went and found an inviting couple who invited me to join them in the large gangbang room on the main floor. very nice.
went to the bar, and caught up with s&c, catching up on what's happening in our lives. had my first acquaintance with c's new ladies, and i can attest that they were worth our investment, guys. not that c needed them to attract horny men, but still very nicely done and compliments to the surgeon (more on that later). we also spoke about her need for periodic checkups ("now let me just check for sensitivity by lightly caressing your nips..") and how the surgeon is trying to sell her on the need to enhance other significant body parts.
s & c consult for a bit after which c turns to me and asks "want to go for a shag?". now i knew that this moment might happen, and although they are my friends, we are swingers and that wasn't my problem. "but", i answered,"i'm used to paying you for you at world." " not this time", c smiled, "this one's a freebie." being a patriotic american, i never turn down a freebie, even if it's just a free baggie at the supermarket, and certainly not an offer of free uninhibited wanton sex, with one of the sexiest women that i have ever met. "it'll give s a chance to go hunting as a single guy." once again, their thoughtfulness for each other and the other's needs is wonderful to see.
so we went up to one of the upstairs room, and begin going at each other like puppies. it's been said before, c is an amazing lover who loves sex, loves to give and receive pleasure, is knowledgable about what works, very intuitive for her partner's needs, very much enjoys the experience of being with someone (she laughs and giggles throughout) , and is insatiable on that matress.
reading s&c's report of that night, one might get the impression that i used c in order to gain access to another couple. i do protest that unfair accusation!!!! while mutually tonguing, i glanced to my left and saw that the previously entangled couple were untangled and the female member was lying next to me and watching us, obviously overwhelmed by c's and mine expertise and intense coupling. her eyes were pleading for engagement. i stretched out my hand in a swinger club sign of "you can join" and she began caressing it.
she got up from the bed only to come back 2 minutes later and join c and i together with her partner. my chivalrous nature could just not let down a damsel in obvious distress and need of our ministrations. was i wrong, honorable jury of mongering peers? isn't this the very nature of a swinger's club, the raison d'etre?
later after eating, drinking , smoking, watching the hunky black guy hook up and f**k the daylights out of that hot, hot biker chick, having a quickie with one of the bev women, and drinking some more fluids (it was really hot in germany last week), i hooked up with s&c again, and we went back upstairs again this time as a threesome in the room with good air conditioning. anoter intense session. great fun (this time, my attentions did not waver), with great people. after- we were stretched out lightly touching and relaxing and enjoying the cool air, and this nice guy came and started to badger c about her new ladies. as her surgeon, i had to make sure that he knew to whom he should give credit and praise for a job well done, but then he asked one of those questions that as a respectable boob builder really gets my gander; " what's inside the bags?", he asked. does it really make a difference? isn't it the final form and feel and how they meld into the surroundings, that's important?
so, as the surgeon of record, i answered without missing a beat, that it's hard to believe but we used a new compound of peanut butter. now, i will admit, peanut butter was an unfortunate choice; a more transparent and springy substance, rather than an oily, brown and grainy one would have made more sense. but my wits were dimmed at that moment from 4 sessions in 2 hours including 2 very intense ones, it was very hot in germany last week, i was trying to sort out which of the 15 time zones that i had just crossed i was actually in, and we all had a great laugh, so peanut butter remained the substance of record, and i wonder if that german guy ran home to tell his wife that she should get a boob job now that they are using a new compound of peanut butter.
bev can really be great- if you have good people to spend time there with.
First I want to thank EVERYONE who contributed reports about PT Dorsten. I was nervous about travelling there and have it turning out to be a bust. Well... the only thing that was bust was, well, you know....
This place is wild. I used to go to swing clubs in Chicago many moons ago that was a blast and this is the next best thing.
Travel
I took the train up and back. It took about 2.5 hours of travel time with another 30 minutes of wait time. I waited for a taxi at the Dorsten station for almost 45 minutes before going to the ticket window and having them call a cab for me. I then went to the hotel for a couple hours rest.
The Club
The club is just like described in previous posts so I will skip the details except to say that the managers are "wonderful" and make you feel very comfy. The food was terrible but, who cares.
There were about 8 girls and throughout the day I would say 30 men. The action is NON-STOP and I have to say that these girls have amazing endurance. They go with a guy (or two) take a quick shower and then back at it a couple times until they need a break.
There were 2 german girls and the rest were Polish. One German girl was sexy looking blonde around 30 but very fun and the other one was kind of brick shaped blond but when I went with her found her to be very very good at what she does. The polish girls all looked like "girl next door".
The first half of the day went like this. Go upstairs and wait in the hall with 3-5 other guys. There are 2 rooms off the hall with huge beds where there are between 2-5 couples going at it. You can walk in and sit on the bed and get a closer look at the action cause no one cares. After a girl finishes she goes to the shower and on the way out grabs another guy and goes into the room. I did this 3 times before dinner.
A warning --- the sex happens all on one bed. You might be DATY with one girl while someone else is literally sitting on your feet and 12 inches to the right is someone doiing it doggy style.
The second half of the got very fun because there were a couple girls that I wanted to go with. The first was a thin brunette from Poland. She was very cute but didnt smile much. We got into DATY and her attitude changed dramatically. She kept my head pinned there for close to 45 minutes (my pleasure) before finally cumming. Oh and she LOVED fingers.
Finally I got to Yana who looks like a blond dream girl. She grabbed me in the hall, grabbed another girl and we did a 3some that went on for well over an hour cause I was starting to slow down. We even took a break where it was all fingers and mouths when the other girl grabbed a dildo, put a condom and lube on it and shoved it up her ass to give me a show. All I can say is that when I finished I had all both hands full of breasts, pussys and mouths.
I was caput! But tried again at 11:30pm to try the brunette one more time. After about 20 minutes she begged me to stop cause her pussy was hurting. Duh!!! I switched to giving her a massage and then we were done.
I will be back but will drive next time.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for directions for posting a link to a specific report.
Finally I got to Yana who looks like a blond dream girl.
I was caput!
"Yana" may be what is sounds like but "Jana" is more likely the spelling of her name.
Kaputt is spelled with a "k" and not a "c" and it has two "t"s.
Iseeu
"Reading S&C's report of that night, one might get the impression that I used C in order to gain access to another couple. I do protest that unfair accusation!!!! "
We were hoping that we were holding you up as a fine example of an upstanding Beverly visitor. Getting involved in other people is one of the things Beverly is about. So we say to the world - follow Iseeu. As for peanut butter - we think thjat was what your brain must turn to after travelling just about every time zone there is. Ayway - your early evening swap meant you were up for a good goodnight session with me. See you at FKK World (or maybe Beverly - where I'm glad to read my freebie was worth more than a plastic bag)
I think I will adopt your words as my mission statement: "Being "one of the sexiest women that Iseeu has ever met""
XXX
Cordelia
Dick Rambone
07-26-06, 14:09
Great report. I plan to be in dusseldorf the first week in October and plan to visit Dorsten Partytreff and Heavensgate. I will be staying near Blue Note Sauna so that is the first one in my list. I was planning to use DBahn but it seems that there is to much wait time for trains and taxi. So I think I might use Sixt with GPS. They quoted me around 350 Euro for one week on a BMW 1 Tier.
Dick
After having read the last reports I feel I have to arrange a visit to PT Dorsten and also try Beverly. I plan a trip to Germany end of August, and I will really give it a try.
A really basic question for you who have been there - who provides the protection? At PT Dorsten I guess it's the girls, but at Beverly. Are you supposed to bring you own small bag with rubbers?
Xavier Yves
07-26-06, 21:01
two questions just jumped into my mind this morning regarding pt dorsten
1. On Sat there are 15-16 girls while only 7,8 girls on other days, so where the rest of girls who show up on Sat are from Mon to Fri?
2. All polish girls speak German fluently. But as we know, they work in PT dorsten for two or three weeks and are back to Poland for a while, back and forth. So how do they speak German fluently while they don't stay here for quite a long time?
Just curious :)
Polar - at Beverly there are trays of condoms in each area (and tissues)
All polish girls speak German fluently. But as we know, they work in PT dorsten for two or three weeks and are back to Poland for a while, back and forth. So how do they speak German fluently while they don't stay here for quite a long time?
To a non-German speaker you might have the impression that they all speak German fluently.
The truth is that some of them speak better German than others. Some of them don't speak any German at all.
You can pick out the educated women because their German vocabulary is much more extensive and their grammar is correct.
Mostly a conversation goes like this:
She says: "Hast du Lust dazu?" (this is generally what they all have memorized and can say)
I say: "Ja".
Then its off to the races.
If you ask her where she is from: "Woher kommst du?" and she will have this blank look on her face until she understands and then she says: "Polska".
To have any really meaningful conversation with them you need to reach out and learn some Polish.
I have had great fun learning Polish from them while having sex. I make sentences saying outrageous things like: "I love Polish pussy". They all laugh because it is just totally crazy.
They had their fun with me too saying that "dick" in Polish is something like "Parufka". I honestly thought it meant "dick". It turns out its a kind of sausage, a very small sausage.
Learn some Polish even just basic phrases and you will get them to open up to you.
Do treat them nicely and with respect. They do very difficult work and they do it very well.
At PT Dorsten there are BIX boxes of rubbers in every room as well as more bottles of lubricant than I have ever seen in my life. Believe me, the lube saves these poor girls bodies from severe wear.,,, LOL
After having read the last reports I feel I have to arrange a visit to PT Dorsten and also try Beverly. I plan a trip to Germany end of August, and I will really give it a try.
A really basic question for you who have been there - who provides the protection? At PT Dorsten I guess it's the girls, but at Beverly. Are you supposed to bring you own small bag with rubbers?
Thank you for the correction.
"Yana" may be what is sounds like but "Jana" is more likely the spelling of her name.
Kaputt is spelled with a "k" and not a "c" and it has two "t"s.
I was at PT Dorsten early afternoon last Saturday. A pleasent welcome by the managers/owners and a quick shower. Just as Wan-King and others have reported its quite a large place with decent facilities. Was I wasn't too happy about was there were only eight girls! And there were at least 16 guys when I was there for about two hours.
I ended up watching up to four couples on the big bed upstaairs have sex which was quite a turn-on for me. And then downstairs, two girls lying on the massage table getting licked and fucked by three guys, quite a sight!
To me most of the girls were between 5-6 and two 8s but its the service that counts and to regular guests they were great.
I tried two Polish girls who were quite rushed with me and I felt quite uncomfortable with this. Of course regular and frequent guests get better service, but thats to be said at any FKK/club....
It has to be said that these girls do have sex with at least 10-20 guys a day and I say hats off to them for doing this difficult job and very well.
Would I go again? Most probably would if there were more girls on duty!
At PT Dorsten there are BIX boxes of rubbers in every room as well as more bottles of lubricant than I have ever seen in my life. Believe me, the lube saves these poor girls bodies from severe wear. LOLAll the RLDs, SGs, Swing Clubs, FKKs and PTs provide rubbers, but only the chaepest 'one size fits all' kind, which does not fit me. Bring your own favorite brand.
Xavier Yves
07-28-06, 14:35
[QUOTE=tony70]I was at PT Dorsten early afternoon last Saturday. A pleasent welcome by the managers/owners and a quick shower. Just as Wan-King and others have reported its quite a large place with decent facilities. Was I wasn't too happy about was there were only eight girls! And there were at least 16 guys when I was there for about two hours.
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"ONLY" 8 girls against 16 guys?
One time on Saturday night around three weeks ago I saw 14 girls but must more than 80 guys come in for all day!! Don't feel better after reading this?
OK, I know there is a link for FKK Wiago and this forum is for PT.
But as business is slowing, a few FKK decided to go for 'all inclusive' base on some day of the week.
The other reason why I put the report here is that not only the pricing structure changes on these days but also way of doing it. Sex is public, even more than in a conventional PT where decision to go on the 'Wiese' is still a one to one.
Here the sessions are decided by the staff on a 60-90 minutes basis and last for about 20 minutes. Not only, everybody goes at once but the area may be limited to a small 7' round bed. So this is definetely not for a shy guy who wants a private session.
On last Sunday, there were three girls, two barmaids (one is indeed the owner) and 5 guys. One slim nigerian girl (9) speaks mostly english, the two other (7) were german and german-greek with incredible light blue eyes.
The nigerian girl was the only one on-time and did insure alone the first session. She was very careful with the timing and took care that the other girls did not overpass the 5 session limit. Everything finished at 9 instead of the 11pm which are advertized.
A big plus of Wiago is a very niceswimming pool for the inter periods.
From the discussion with the owner, I could understand that the industry is not booming; this is probably why you get such a relax atmosphere in Germany; There is no money left for any form of maffia in the business.
After leaving Wiago at 9, I had a cultural visit at Oberhausen's Flasshof Str. This place reminded me the old Barrio Chino of Barcelona or the recently closed RLD in den Haag HS; rundown, unsafe but with an atmosphere.
After a small nap I arrived at Beckenkamp around 11 am. Business in PT Dorsten was already on full swing with 7 girls and 9~12 patrons.
The area has been already well described and I will concentrate on the staff: all 7 girls are polish and do have good friendship. They are not enslaved but highly invited to work hard for the patrons. one of their trick is to choose a boyfriend and have a very long session with him where possibly he is chatting (polnish welcome) and massaging her.
All seven girls can be rated above 7 with a special bonus to Jana a 19~20 petite girl; I would also recommend Eva who is probably the oldest (~30); she has an atlhetic silhouette and do perform an athletic sex with dick massage in the intercourse. I had only one opportunity to feel that before in a dreary brothel of Hertzl str; in TA!
Just for the record: I had seven sessions and two pops (Eva!) before I leaved at 7pm. I had to drive anyway but I am not sure if I would have been welcomed to stay for the next 4 hours.
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There is a brand new upscale hotel/club in the middle of the woods. Its a very nice part of the country, some 1 1/2 car hours west of Frankfurt (Shiatsu, you wrote that Cordelia is back at World).
They opened July 15/16 with much fanfare, and I would certainly enjoy learning more about it. (Especially since they appear to be pretty pricey and don't admit single mongers)
This is their web site: http://www.funandjoy.de/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,1/lang,de/
I would be curious to hear a report about the place.[/QUOTE]
I would instinctively be very wary of any sex club opening up in the middle of totally nowhere, especially Hünsruck. At at these prices! I may be wrong but this is the back of beyond where the Germans have a saying 'how do you know when you have reached the Eifel (forests)? When the cows are more beautiful than the women.' Prepare to be brave, very brave......
Xavier Yves,
I guess I must have had better ratio of girls/guys than you, pot luck this time around! The girls are very busy!
Can anyone recommend somewhere closer to Dusseldorf like Mettman club? I have read some reports positive reports about Metmann.
Can anyone recommend somewhere closer to Dusseldorf like Mettman club? I have read some reports positive reports about Metmann.
.. Mettmann is about it. Take the S-bahn to Mettmann-Stadtwald and its a fifteen minute walk in the direction of Wuppertal. Also reachable via a bus leaving for Wuppertal-Vohwinkel from this train station.
I met an American at Mettmann the last time and he said something about Mitfickzentrale (MFZ) in Krefeld and he said he has had fun there too. The name "Mitfickzentrale" is a play on words with the concept being similar to the expression "Mitfahrgelegenheit" (How does one translate this into English? Just goes to show the beauty and versatility of the German language.)
Krefeld is also reachable via public transportation from Duesseldorf. I believe its near an U-bahnhaltestelle.
From reports I've read on the German language forum only three women or so work at a time though.
La Bedo and Blue Note (both in Duessldorf) used to have Pauschalpreisparties which used to operate on the same concept: pay once, have as much as you want with a limited number of women available. They have since discontinued these parties.
They were great fun despite the small selection of women and were my introduction to public sex.
Jackyo,
Cheers for this info about Metmann! PT Dorsten was too far for me and a hassle by public transport as I do not drive! So I will try Mettman next time and also the Krefeld club which I ahve read about on the German websites.
I met an American at Mettmann the last time and he said something about Mitfickzentrale (MFZ) in Krefeld and he said he has had fun there too. The name "Mitfickzentrale" is a play on words with the concept being similar to the expression "Mitfahrgelegenheit" (How does one translate this into English? Just goes to show the beauty and versatility of the German language.)MFZ = MitFahrZentral. A German institution for the somewhat less endowed (people that don't spend hundreds of Euro on hookers;)), that gets you from point A to point B by car for a lesser price than the railway. You ride with a car and share the gas expenses and pay commission to MFZ, the broker.
Greetings from Besserwisser:)
Jackyo,
Cheers for this info about Metmann! PT Dorsten was too far for me and a hassle by public transport as I do not drive! So I will try Mettman next time and also the Krefeld club which I ahve read about on the German websites.
No problem, dude.
I also thought of one other possibility.
If you are adventurous, you might also try the newly configured Wiago FKK club which hosts swingers events on weekends.
It also is accesible via S-bahn from Duesseldorf. Take the line to Leverkusen-Kuppersteg and you have maybe a ten minute walk from the station. As you leave the station walk back in the direction you came from (d.h. north) but on the other side of the tracks.
Reports on this club since it was restructured have been scarce so you would do us all a favor in visiting and reporting. There is actually one further down on this thread.
Mind you a swinger event might be a different animal compared to a PT where the women are all pros but if there are enough amateur women there you might still have a good time.
I've not been to either Beverly or Ralph and Tinas in Langenfeld and don't know if you can get to them with public transport.
Graham Cooke
07-30-06, 14:10
I have been to Mettman on a couple of occasions and found it to be an excelent night out but for me it is a distant third place behind Beverley and World . I usually stay at the local hotel / bar aptly named "Gudrinkhausen" which, as a matter of fact it is. A room costs 50 Euros and it is a three star establishment much like the Hotel Linneman in Burg. It is a five minute walk to the industrial estate where you find the club.
The English have traditionally been conservative about such places and and you wont find them for love nor money. Somewhat quaintly the UK law terms them "disorderly houses" and its not long before a tabloid expose leads to a police raid. Swingers clubs in the UK are overlooked these days if they keep a low profile.
I am sorry to be slightly off topic here but I thought the members might like to know that there is something similar in the UK.
It's called the Private Club, and it is in Wainwright Street, Aston, Birmingham.
They survive on single guys - there are couples there but they really are in the minority. Every night (and afternoons that they are open) they lay on two girls to entertain the blokes. There's a main room with a large circular bed and that's where it all happens - there's private rooms too but these tend to be the domain of the few couples that attend.
On Saturday nights they have three girls.
So, if there's couples present they'll play as they would at other swingers clubs, but the single guys enjoy themselves too by dint of the two/three girls who are working. It’s a real 'off the wall' place
The only downside for you is that if you're not comfortable having lots of other people present then it's probably not for you. There's no alcohol sold but you can bring your own. There are showers, a sauna, and a swimming pool. The rules are pretty basic, no cameras, no mobile phones (leave it in your locker) condoms for penetration (none for oral), no means no, and that's about it
www.theprivateclub.com
Sorry if you think I have deviated.
Cheers again Jackyo and Graham Cooke. I did go to the Bluenote Sunday parties a couple of years ago, although I found the girls a little rushed.
Jackyo, I have never been to a swingers club and the rules are different. In PT Dorsten last week it was more like a fuck factory, with guys queueing upstairs; As soon as a lady would come out of the shower room, she would be on the bed again. I enjoyed most was watching the public sex take place:)
I have read that the club in Krefeld is where some guys go towards the end of the month and cannot afford PHG!
Warsteiner
07-30-06, 20:08
www.theprivateclub.com
Looking at the women on the site I think I'll give it a miss and wait until I go to a FKK club with 20+ women, the majority of which are 7+. The majority of these women are haven't been around the block - they built it! There are maybe 2 or 3 out of the 16 women that I would consider going to a room with.
Rather than paying the £50 membership fee and then paying £40 or £50 to visit, book a flight with Easyjet or Ryanair for £40, stay in a cheap hotel and pay €50 to enter a FKK club and enjoy.
There are so many women at a lot of the clubs that no matter what your tastes are there is guaranteed to be someone you like. There are also board such as this one to ensure that during your trip you can avoid the 'Optik ficks' and stick to the women who not only lookers but also provide top cloass service.
www.theprivateclub.com
Depending on how many blokes are there, it might not be too bad. In fairness those women are not much uglier than the Mettmann chicks.
Of course PT dorsten has a far superior line up.
Ill post a link to my trip report, since it is somewhat buried now
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=477195&postcount=734
There is a brand new upscale hotel/club in the middle of the woods. Its a very nice part of the country, some 1 1/2 car hours west of Frankfurt (Shiatsu, you wrote that Cordelia is back at World).
They opened July 15/16 with much fanfare, and I would certainly enjoy learning more about it. (Especially since they appear to be pretty pricey and don't admit single mongers)
This is their web site: http://www.funandjoy.de/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,1/lang,de/
I would be curious to hear a report about the place.Looks like one of the many 'couples only' swing clubs, actually a dying breed in Germany. Too pricey, too many rules, no single men. The genre is not recommended for the latter. If you want to meet volunteer couples they often show up at PTs and "Herrenueberschuss-Clubs" (gangbang clubs), some even have bi nights.
Yesterday I visited the club and here are my directions to get there. Report will follow.
Drive north up the Autobahn A31 (it starts north north west of Essen). Turn right onto the B58 at the exit for Schermbeck (just north of Dorsten). Go about 8km and turn left into Fritz-Eggeling-Alle. There is a Plus supermarket on this corner on the left. After 100 yards the road turns sharply to the right. Go another few hundred yards and look for a road called “Beckenkamp” and turn right onto it. You pass a supermarket called “Globus” on the left hand side (this may be before turning right into “Beckenkamp”). Go another 100 yards and turn left just after number 16. Then take the second right. Just around the bend you should see the house with number 22 clearly marked.
Kingwenslas
08-03-06, 23:56
Yesterday, Noskin and I visited PT Dorsten having been inspired mainly by Wan King’s excellent recent report. So if you’re reading this, Wan King, you are responsible!
Firstly, let me say (and we both agreed on this) that in our humble opinions, we would not give this club 11/10 as Wan King did. In fact, as we drove away, we discussed whether or not we would like to return. The answer is “No, as there’s too many other places to try”. The unique selling point of this club is the price, namely €100 for unlimited food, beer and sex (not necessarily in that order). In fact, if you go on a Tuesday (apparently) it’s only €88. I honestly do not know anywhere else which offers such cheap prices, so if you are a student, go there. If you have better funding, try out Bernd’s. But let me write the report first before giving the conclusion, as I am basing all this just on one day’s visit.
We turned up at 1 o’clock and the manager welcomed us in and showed us around. He was tough looking, but charming. Did not speak English. Comes from Bosnia Herzegovina. Cannot fault the guy.
There were about seven or eight girls present, all Polish except for Lucy from Slovakia. Three were good looking, one was a dog, one was fat and the rest were average, girl-next-door types.
I speak good German and the manager explained all the same stuff that we had read on this forum. The only thing to add is that you give your locker key (along with your name) to the manager when you come up from the locker room in the basement. On the ground floor there’s a bar area, lounge, food etc. The sex takes place upstairs. The weather was a touch too cold yesterday for anything to happen outside.
The manager showed us around upstairs where the action happens. There are two rooms, the big one which has a bed capable of holding several couples at once and the small room capable of holding, say, three couples. My first impression (and remember, I had never seen anything like this before) was how quiet, slow and unenergetic everything was. I immediately had the impression you could have long, long sessions, but this turned out not to be true.
So we went back down and had a coffee whilst we waited to see what would happen. A good-looking tall blond called Laura and a brunette called Agnieshka came down for a break and joined us for a (very limited) chat and the four of us went upstairs almost seconds later for our first sessions. My friend nicked the blond (this is the second time he has done this to me now). There was certainly no spark and no meeting of minds which I normally look for in an FKK. We went to the small room, had our willies wiped as Wan King described with the baby wipes, and then had some sucking and fucking, followed by handjobs to completion. Every few moments some bloke would stick his head through the doorway to have a (bored) look at proceedings.
So we were initiated! My session with Agnieshka had been rather mechanical, so I was still up for some proper action. A short rest later I went upstairs and hung around outside the two rooms and this time it was my turn to look around see what was going on. At any one time throughout the day there were probably only 15 or 16 guys present, but I had the impression that there were always about 3 or 4 guys too many.
After some waiting the “dog” who I mentioned earlier emerged from the ladies’ room and said, “Hast Du lust” to the small crowd of us, and she was pretty much ignored by all except for me who looked at her and gained her attention. This happened just as a sexy blond was walking past the other way and they hugged each other and both smiled at me, so I committed myself by saying “Ja”. The blond then walked off to the Ladies room and I was left lumbered with the “dog”. I protested “Ah, but what about you?” with my eyes to the sexy blond and she said she would return. So, back to the small room with the “dog” called Eva, who I must confess was quite sweet and gave a good blowjob. “She’s just thankful to get me”, I was thinking and then Michelle, the sexy one turned up. She was wearing just the right amount of eye make-up and I was ready! Michelle turned out to be completely bored and useless, laying too far down my body for me to kiss her and she spent time talking in Polish to the other girls whilst Eva gave me a (satisfactory) blowjob.
I can’t remember the details now, except halfway through, Michelle announced that they were both going for a “Pause” and that was it! I was philosophical about it as I reasoned there would be plenty of other opportunities throughout the day, so I returned downstairs to meet up with “Noskin” who now had two decent sessions behind him, whilst I was seriously pissed off with the whole concept.
My next session occurred with the previously mentioned “fat” one, called Natasha. Her two redeeming features were a pretty face and large boobs and she actually reminded me of an old girlfriend from University days, so she had a head-start in my books. I actually finished by coming inside her.
After this my luck changed for the better due to one of the “average” blond next door types with nice boobs attaching herself to me for the next three sessions. She spoke none of the languages that I speak, so we had no “connection” there. She came and sat next to me downstairs and we played little massage games with each other. The success of this trip for me was entirely down to this girl, so it’s rather naughty of me that I have forgotten her name. A particularly nice touch was when the “dog” called Eva joined us mid second session and massaged me whilst I had a blowjob from my girl.
My next session was with just these two girls together, but unfortunately I had trouble coming this time. It was not helped by them telling me that I had two minutes to come before they had a “Pause”.
My final session was just with the “dog” as I felt that she had earned her “spurs” by this time and also the cold Michelle joined us mid session much to my surprise, but unfortunately she did not change her colours.
To summarise, I found the sex to be mechanical and slightly rushed. I had good conversations with three Dutch guys who had turned up at 10 o’clock and they all agreed that if you have less competition from other guys then you get better sex. It was also nice to discuss Bernd’s Club with one of these guys and compare various girls in that club. I have literally lost count of how many girls I had sexual contact with, but it was probably all but two of them, and also how many sessions and how often I orgasmed. The other thing to report is that I expected some joining-in between couples, but this did not happen. The manager said that we could join a session just by joining it, but I saw no one do this. Each sex session was between two people lying on their bit of the bed with no interference from anyone else.
The disadvantage of this club is the hanging around waiting for girls to become available and then having to take whoever is available. I suppose the girls certainly perform well considering the pressure they are under. As previously stated, I think there were always about 3 or 4 guys too many to make for a relaxing time.
Kingwenslas
Kingwenslas,
I wonder if we spoke of the same Eva. If yes this shows how much tastes may differ!
My one is about 30, petite and with surprisingly square shoulder. This last point may induce your reference to a dog! Her sex was amazing as she can contract her uterus and squeeze your dick.
I agree that long fucking sessions are not allowed and will end in a handjob with rescue of the nearby girls; it is your responsibility to interrupt early enough and wait for the next session.
As I mentioned, if you are smart enough ( I'm not!) you can be their loverboy, she will then trick her boss having a long sesssion with you instead of repeated work on the Wiese.
You did not refer to Jana: a petite blonde who is really the 'hammer'. Here, tastes may not differ!
Kingwenslas
08-04-06, 11:32
Hi Mufu
Yes, my Eva did have square shoulders so maybe we are talking about the same girl. Apologies that I referred to her as a dog, but as you know she won me over throughout the day so I hope you forgive me! I don't think my blond was called Jana, shame that I can't remember her name!
Kingwenslas
Kingwenslas,
tough you didnt like the Partytreff,
Thing is you need to be a bit aggresive with the women there to get the best out of it. I thought it was amazing to be able to have so much sexual contact with all those girls for so little money. I am different to most guys here, in that I would be delighted to fuck any woman as long as she isnt completely hideous.
You can take some girls there for longer "one on one" sessions if you want, and I found this easier after the first day when some girls got to know me abit. Initially some girls would protest abit but if you tell them to stay for longer, some will. And i found when a girl goes to take a break mid fuck, what the hell, grab another one.
I knew when i wrote my report that this club wouldnt suit everyone, just like different guys prefer different FKK clubs. I think PT Dorsten is for the more dedicated pervert :D
Also the thing about PTs is that they are bargin basement!! And for someone like me who is watching their money these days, it is great value.
Im sure somewhere like Bernd's is of course way more sexually charged, but you must pay €70 there just to get in the door, and they dont even have a Jacuzzi !!
Another reason I gave Dorsten an 11/10 in my report is that you can spend alot of time performing DATY on the girls. And many are happy to lie down and let u lick them, maybe they see it as a sort of break, just having to lie there.(better than having to do all the work) but some of them did get wet, so I guess some enjoyed it.
Also i remember some of those Polish girls having huge big meaty pussy lips, must be from all the hours of getting pounded :D
While I was at PT Dorsten I noticed a VERY wide variety of interactions between the girls and guys. There was a guy I made friends with who speaks Polish. He goes every week and was able to get 2 longs sessions with Jana and her friend. My experience was all over the globe. If I managed to get the girls to laugh (I do funny things during the act like tickle them or do something really stupid that makes them laugh) then I got a more extended session but if we didnt connect then it was over pretty soon. Wan King is right though that if you DATY they will lie there forever (and some of them actually get into it).
I did see one huge guy (and I am not talking about organ size) pound one of the blonds for a long long time (3 sessions worth) like a robot. I felt sorry for the girl.
To reiterate what has been said, Dorsten is not for everyone. It is cheap and kinky. If you are even a little bit shy I doubt you will have a good time here. For the rest of us that ARE more on the kinky side this is a slice of heaven.
d
Best part about the Dorsten partytreff...its about 1 mile from Heavensgate. What should be considered is this...visit the partytreff first, get all the women and beer you can handle in four to five hours. Then drive over to heavensgate for a more relaxing atmosphere and be selective in who you choose.
Hi everyone,
I was in Dorsten this Tuesday and had a great time. The € 88 bargain is hard to beat. We arrived at about 12 o'clock and there was a break when we just arrived so we sat down and had coffe with some girls, there were about 15 present. As described before some are pretty girl next door types and some are older and some are more fattish. I had read the previous posts and expected mechanical sex but with some of the girls the session was more like in a FKK.
I liked that there was almost always two girls available and that you could touch a girl who was being fucked by your friends while you were fucking another.
If you take a very long time to cum there will come up to three girls helping you out. I found it to be a totally hedonistic experience. The best service was provided by a black haired rounder Polish girl with big tits. She did a very long BBJ followed by sex in different positions.
The male manager is very service minded but some guests thought he was hard on the girls. I didn't see this myself. While we were there the owner came with a friend and they had a pretty girl with them called Laura who did an excellent striptease downstairs. She was the only girl there with a boob job. I personally thought the owner was a very rude simple person but YMMV.
I will defenitly return next time I am in the area.
G Schyman
I'm filing this under partytreffs even though this particular discussion started under FKK World. For those of us who have been to a few such parties Mettmann stands out as probably the best. I'll tell you why.
It is run by a couple (Silvia and her husband) who first helped to run a small partytreff in Hilden, south of Dusseldorf in the late ninieites (you may still I think find ancient reports about Hilden in WSG). When that ended because the neighbours complained of the noise - it was that good - they set up Partytreff Mettmann. The same standards as Hilden prevailed. Silvia was the star attraction. I remember her in Hilden legs apart wearing a pair of boots being licked out by three men in turn for the best part of an hour, then taking all three at once. Her stamina and indeed her patience are legendary. She is tanned, slim, muscular, short dark hair and in her forties. As Jackyo says she can grip your mast tightly from tip to base. She likes anal, sandwich and also swallows. For around one hundred euros you can have all this and Silvia's friends as well. FKK club girls cannot match this service - if they do it comes at a heavy price. For those of you who read German go to the Rheinforum and you can make up your own minds.
If you are a newbie and want to go to partytreffs then look up Jackyo's reports. He likes them. I personally would say you are taking a risk with your enjoyment factor. You can strike lucky but you can also be under psychiatric care for weeks to come. Sometimes you need a sense of humour in these places to get through the evening. Let me tell you about the time I ended jup with two condoms on my ......no, you wouldn't believe me. Go to Mettmann on a Saturday evening, you are in safe hands there and if you meet Silvia the dark haired sex goddess of partytreffs you will not forget it. As for Frankfurt 188, no please don't go......Okay I had a wonderful time there eight years ago and partytreffs were really the in thing....today its FKK clubs that are experiencing a renaissance.
If you have never been to a Partytreff, it will blow your mind: as much as you want for as long as you want with whoevever you want for one price.
The experience is very different from that of an FKK club and they will not replace an FKK experience service or quality-wise any time soon.
And yes, Marlow knows of what he speaks. Go to Mettmann, find Silvia and at the next clear chance you have to sample her services go for it. She has excellent muscle control and will milk you dry.
I've been at this for years and can only come up with a handful of women who have muscle control like this.
The girls there will make sure you go home with an empty sack and they will do it with a sense of humor (who says the Germans don't have a sense of humor?). Makes you wonder whether they could develop a business on the side with all of the genetic material they collect in one evening.
There is more group activity at Mettmann, by the way. You all just kind of pile onto this bed and if you find an empty hole or mouth, you just go at it. The girls don't even turn around to find out who is poking at them.
There is a kind of natural rythmn to this activity. Its ebbs and flows quite spontaneously.
At other PT clubs, the women tend to go two on one on you and their objective is to get you to come. They know that if they succeed in milking you dry (I think I know what a cow feels like since I've been there, done that), they know you are out of commission for a while.
You never share with other customers (I had Patrizia once at Wagenfeld lying on my lap while some guy was poking at her.. I started to fondle her tits and the guy on the other end said she was his and I shouldn't touch her - talk about becoming territorial).
A disclaimer is in order though. Mettmann is not for everyone: you shouldn't expect the women to be beauty queens. They are very much a Geschmacksache, or matter of taste.
(I'm moved this from the FKK World section just so the forum doesn't get too disorganized).
I feel Mettmann would NOT suit most guys who want to try a partytreff for the first time, cos some of the women are SCARY UGLY and old. Ok there are one or two ok looking women.
Some could argue that what they lack in looks they make for in sexual performance, and that maybe true if you are not fussed on looks.
But if you want to try a Partytreff and want reasonable looking young women, PT Dorsten is the one.
Kaare Olsen
08-16-06, 16:41
I am an Norwegian often in Frankfurt, in transit 1-2 nights on my way to work in North-Africa (Libya). Will bring you some nice reports from Libya soon.
Can anyone tell me of there is any adult-partys in Frankfurt, like in London (UK) (http://www.gentlemansparties.com or http://www.southernencounters.com)? I have been to the www.xtreff.com but I was not impressed.
Best regards,
K.O.
Kaare Olsen,
Two places come to mind in Frankfurt. I have been to neither, but there is a swingers club called www.susiundjuergen.de. A guy posted a decent report about this place on WSG. Although you are not guaranteed sex there, it seems u will get some.
There is also a small Partytreff near the airport that had one report. Seems be only 1 or 2 women there though
http://www.swingerclub-gourmet.de/index.htm
report is here:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=470526&postcount=703
Dick Travel
08-17-06, 18:09
Hi
question for Wan King,
I seem to recall you went to PTF Dorsten quite a bit in one week. I'm coming to Germany for a week and planning to do probably 1)PTF Dorsten, 2)FKK Goldentime or Yin Yang, 3)FKK Samya or Sudhbad, 4) Palace or World or Oase
I'm just trying to figure out a kind of itinary for my touristy stuff and a day/night of fun every other day !
Are there any nights to avoid at Dorsten, any you recommend?
Grateful for your knowledge on that place and any advice regarding when/which on the others too.
Cheers
DT
Hi Dick,
I cant think of any night not to go to PT Dorsten, but i would advise going on the Tues or Sat, cos there will be 4 - 6 extra women (but also extra customers). Its nice to have the bigger choice, maybe 14 women vs 8 of a normal day.
Also bear in mind the place closes at 12am most days, so i wouldnt leave it too late to go there.
Fred
The FRA area and Hessen are not known for partytreff like the NRW area - most of the FRA area clubs are pure swinger clubs which allow single men in most nights (like Susi and Juergen's) and also have daytime sex parties like Funhouse Gourmet. On some nights, there are gang bang parties but usually with just 1 or 2 gang bang specialists to service the men. In general these clubs are very slow unless there is a special event going, a holiday or a weekend night.
The only FRA area partytreff that I can partially recommend is Partykreis- Airport which as the name says is just about 10 minutes from FRA airport in an industrial district in Mörfelden. There are 3-4 sp (not particularly attractive) on any given night, about 15- 20 men and an occasional swinging couple. The 2 best things about the club is the proximity to the airport if you are stuck in an airport hotel, and the manager couple, who are very nice and accomodating to new faces.
You're better off renting a car from Sixti and driving to Oase or World or taking a taxi to Palace. That's what I do when in FRA.
I highly recommend PT Dorsten on a Tues. night as I reported a few months back. Despite the amazing 88 Eur price and added women lineup, it doesn't get crowded (12 women for 20 men) is a very good ratio for partytreff and there is always some action going on, or available to take to the mat.
Get's the Iseeu 4 erect cocks award for high value for money :-$
Hi Kaare,
How recently did you visit X-treff and what was it like? I visited several times over the past few years and sometimes it was great, but the last time I went this winter - after it moved to the new location - it was awful. I was thinking of giving it another chance, but not if someone else had a bad experience recently.
I seem to recall you went to PTF Dorsten quite a bit in one week. I'm coming to Germany for a week and planning to do probably 1)PTF Dorsten, 2)FKK Goldentime or Yin Yang, 3)FKK Samya or Sudhbad, 4) Palace or World or Oase
If you are in Dorsten you should also do Heavensgate. Its on the other side of the Landstrasse from the PT.
If you do the PT on one day, Heavensgate could take up another day.
If you are doing GT or Ying Yang, you may as well also visit PHG and Wildenrath. My personal preference here is Wildenrath but its had some issues after renovation.
If I were in near Bonn and a newbie, I'd do Bernds before I did either Samya or Sudbad. You can visit Sudbad and Bernds on the same day and pay only one entry fee. Samya is an okay club but if you were to only do one club near Koeln, I'd do Bernds.
If I were doing the Frankfurt clubs and had a choice of only one club, I'd do Oase.
Hi mongers, Need some help for my next trip to Germany. I'm planning to hit PT Dorsten in Tuesday, but my flight will be late (about 3PM in Frankfurt) and some 2 hrs more of drive to Dorsten....too late, so I'm working in my second choice: Beverly Gang bang night......any experiences about this event? What about a near hotel to Beverly? I'll be there for 4 days and for sure I'm going to move into PT Dorsten (Live in) the next days of my vacation.
Thanks for your help!
Happy Hunting!
Razor
I'm planning to hit PT Dorsten in Tuesday, but my flight will be late (about 3PM in Frankfurt) and some 2 hrs more of drive to Dorsten....too late, so I'm working in my second choice: Beverly Gang bang night.r
I think beverly's GB is a great choice but be sure it is not Tuesday. Tuesday at Bevely is bi (which means homo) and there is no GR ladys, action is dull or at least it was when I visited 2 years ago.
Mufu - Tuesday has grown to be one of the liveliest nights of the week. It has a real party atmosphere. The general consensus is that the sex is best on Tuesdays. The vast majority of people there are straight, and there are also some working ladies. I was there this week and the place was totally packed with about 100/120 people: I will report as soon as I can. There is no need to worry about unwanted contact with gay men or lesbian women. As long as one is not upset by the sight of transexuals and a very limited amount of same sex sex then it is highly recommended
Razor - the GangBang night is the first Tuesday of each month. I have not been. There are two or three hotels in Solingen Burg (Wan King mentions one of them in his post following this one). I normally stay in Leverkusen (15 minutes drive) or Wuppertal (20+ minutes drive) as it is easier to get to other places from them in the daytime while Beverly is shut
Hi everyone,
We are a couple of Turkish guys, living in New York and will be visiting Dusseldorf area on 13th and 14th. I'm planning to visit Beverly on the 13th, Wednesday. This will be my second time in Beverly after two years. I hope everything is the same. Although I love the treff thing, it'll be a first for my friend. (We're both straight males 36-39, but look 30-32, with the exception of beer-bellies attached!) I'm wondering if anyone would like to meet us there and we'll have a blast. I used to read the forum in the old days and remember there were a few couples who wrote here and visited Bevery often.
On the 14th I'm planing to visit the Blue Note, since there are such highly valuable reports on them. Any other suggestions?
Razor,
the hotel near Beverly is the http://www.hotel-niggemann.de/main.htm. Enjoy...
tuesday is bi – night except when it is the monthly gangbang night. tuesdays has become one of the liveliest nights – there were about 100/120 people there, of which about 5 were tvs and tss, possibly another 5 or 6 bi, about 5 service providers and the rest split between single men and couples.
there is very little obvious bi action. most activity is straight. my memory of the evening is a little blurred, but there seemed to be plenty of couples sharing with the single men to varying degrees. particularly noticeable were two young girls who didn’t even look as if they were 18. they had turned up in order to be picked up by single men – which of course they speedily were. there was a woman who was enjoying being vaginally fisted. i didn’t get involved in a huge deal of action since i was keeping an eye on cordelia all evening who was having a great time. i particularly was after a slim black haired woman who was part of a couple, but i spent too much time joining in with cordelia and missed my chance with her. i did join in some group activity from time to time
wednesday was much quieter – and my memory is a bit less fuzzy. cordelia had a nice time as always. there was some good company from amongst the single men. i had my eye on a dyed bright red haired girl, long legs, and 32g breasts. however i was told she never shared – so the nearest i got was having sex with somebody else whilst watching her loudly bounce her magnificent enhancements three feet away. there was a man there who personified what can be got out of beverly – he was in a room with one woman, and two minutes later he was with cordelia. we saw him later in the evening, said hello. and three minutes later he was into double penetration with cordelia, ten minutes later he was joining in a couple having sex elsewhere. he was cheerful and irrepressible without being loud mouthed or troublesome
so, as always, unpredictable and full of potential
Thanks gents for the input, precise and informative. The gang bang is in Sept 05 and I think I'll start with this one, then next day I'll be in PT Dorsten.
-Shiatsu, yes still thinking to visit at least one time "FKK World" to know Cordelia, but all depends how I'd like PT Dorsten.
Razor,
1) The drive from FRA to PT Dorsten should take no more than 2.5 hours depending on traffic conditions. If you get to PT Dorsten by 6 p.m., you'll have enough time to have a great time, and Tues. night at PT Dorsten is a great value.
2) The first Tues. of the month GB night at Bev is good fun - there is little difference than on a normal night except that there is usually one or more professional providers brought in to spice up the festivities- as if the action at Bev needed some spicing up :-)
3) I've been staying at the Holiday Inn Bonn Airport which is very conveniently located off of major highways, walking distance from the terminal for train and or air connection, and most importantly a 20 minute drive from Beverly.
On the 14th I'm planing to visit the Blue Note, since there are such highly valuable reports on them. Any other suggestions?
Merhaba, dude!
The other choices in Duesseldorf (all accessible with public transport) are: La Bedo (around the corner from Blue Note), Dolce Vita, the sister club to Dolce Vita (Nacht Cafe or something like that) and the successor to Tropicana in Erkrath (Amnesia I believe is its name).
There are better clubs but you will have to have a car and leave the confines of Duesseldorf.
Quality-wise La Bedo and Blue Note are similar, the women are comparable. I was ripped off once at Tropicana (and it was by someone I'd seen lots of times) so I would approach with caution.
Razor
best hotel choice near Beverly is HOTEL BURGERHOF, a 10 minute walk from Beverly, price for single room last year was 50 EURO, and if you mention Beverly they grant you a 10% discount. Price includes breakfast, they have a restaurant as well one block away from the hotel. It is a small hotel as they have only 8 rooms I guess , but all in all very good.
Hotel details
Name: Hotel Burgerhof
Tel: +49/212/42568 or +49/21242641
One guy and a girl there speak some English, while the owner ( a lady in her mid 60's ) speaks only German.
Been to Beverly 3 times (in 2004 and 2005), Monday, Tuesday, and Wednseday , best night is Tuesday even though it is Bi night, but as Shiatsu previously explained, 90% of the action is straight and the place is packed with people.
Good luck
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Hi mongers, Need some help for my next trip to Germany. I'm planning to hit PT Dorsten in Tuesday, but my flight will be late (about 3PM in Frankfurt) and some 2 hrs more of drive to Dorsten....too late, so I'm working in my second choice: Beverly Gang bang night......any experiences about this event? What about a near hotel to Beverly? I'll be there for 4 days and for sure I'm going to move into PT Dorsten (Live in) the next days of my vacation.
Thanks for your help!
Happy Hunting!
Razor
Also the hotel Niggemann is just up the hill. Basic hotel by European standards. The owner, Rainer, speaks perfect English.
Razor
best hotel choice near Beverly is HOTEL BURGERHOF, a 10 minute walk from Beverly, price for single room last year was 50 EURO, and if you mention Beverly they grant you a 10% discount. Price includes breakfast, they have a restaurant as well one block away from the hotel. It is a small hotel as they have only 8 rooms I guess , but all in all very good.
Hotel details
Name: Hotel Burgerhof
Tel: +49/212/42568 or +49/21242641
One guy and a girl there speak some English, while the owner ( a lady in her mid 60's ) speaks only German.
Been to Beverly 3 times (in 2004 and 2005), Monday, Tuesday, and Wednseday , best night is Tuesday even though it is Bi night, but as Shiatsu previously explained, 90% of the action is straight and the place is packed with people.
Good luck
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HornySwede
08-22-06, 17:02
I have now visited PT Dorsten after the recommendations made on this excellent forum.
The location of the club is: N51 43.428 E7 01.911 (WGS 84) or at least that is the end of the road leading to the house on my Garmin maps.
A kmz-file for Google Earth with the house marked is attached to this report.
Web: http://www.partytreffdorsten.de
My visits were on Tuesday Aug 15 from about 18.30 - 23.30 and Thursday Aug 17 from about 12.00 - 18.30. Price on Tuesday €88 and Thursday €99.99 certainly a very good deal.
When you arrive you are greeted by the manager, who if he don't recognise you will ask if you have been there before, Just be honest and say that you haven't, if it is your first time. He will then describe the setup of the club. The changing room with showers and a toilet is in the basement. On the ground-floor there is a bar and a room with a big sofa, fire-place, a big-screen TV most of the times showing a sports-channel and another toilet. On the top-floor there are two rooms with large beds where most of the action takes place. Another toilet with shower for the men and private areas for the girls.
When I arrived I heard the music pumping on the ground-floor. After taking a shower and leaving my key with the manager he more or less grabbed my wrist and took me into the room on the ground-floor and even if the sounds had indicated it, I was surprised to see that the action was in full swing here, with plenty of couples going on at it on the sofa, on the floor and almost everywhere. The owner than led me to a girl and asked her to take care of me, which she certainly did. ;-) The girl, named Laura, had me sit down in the sofa and immediatly started a BBBJ. After to short a time I had to tell her to take it a little easy, She then asked if I wanted to fuck. I agreed ofcourse ond she started to ride me after putting on a condom. Way to soon I couldn't hold it back anymore and thus my partytreff virginity was broken. A bit later the lights were turned up again and the action moved upstairs.
In my mind the best day for me were the Thursday with a better ratio of men to women. Might also have been that that was afternoon, compared with the evening on Tuesday. All of the girls present on my visists where up to FKK-standards. Meaning that I have seen the same type of girls in FKKs. None though really comparing with the most beautiful girls in FKKs. Even if there were a couple of really nice looking girls on the Tuesday but unfortunatley I didn't manage to do them. Both of them were always working together on one man. Naturally they were very popular.
If I remember correctly I had sex of different types with 8 girls during my two visits. Some just a BBBJ some the whole deal. The only girl whose name I remember is Laura, who is a rather skinny blonde. But one good thing with her for me was that she spoke some English, other girls I had trouble communicating with since my German is very limited and they spoke very little English.
Now the big question, which do I prefer? PT Dorsten or FKK? For the money the PT can't be beat, especially on a Tuesday. But still I have had better experiences at FKKs and must say I prefer them. But I will probably visit PT Dorsten again. The FKKs i am refering to are the big three in the Frankfurt area: World, Oase and Palace and in NRW: Goldentime and Happy Garden.
As for GoldenTime and Happy Garden see my reports in the appropriate areas.
--
HornySwede
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Yes, thanks again for the information. I think the GB at Beverly will be just what I need to open my trip to Germany, next day PT Dorsten should be another great experience. I been in a couple FKK's in a previous trip which I liked very much, but the PT is a whole new game, well I'll be there very soon.
Happy Hunting
Razor
Frankfurter
08-25-06, 23:52
Saturday, August 5, arrived at 3.30 pm, stayed until 10.30pm.
I am sorry to repeat myself, but I had another super time.
Sylvia was certainly there, super great like my last visit, I didn't even had enough time to drink my first glass of champagne at the bar when she started to unpack and suck me right there. (I agree with the King's and Marlow's commnets regarding the performers.) From then on it just kept going on and on.
Con:
Saturday is too busy, ratio of guys-to-girls not sufficient. Grilled pork is terrible, other food is edible.
Pro:
Gorgeous Sylvia, a tall good looking Petra, supper BBBJCIM (like ever other girl there), great super muscular sexy legs (!), a blonde, tanned girl with huge tits (I can't recall the name) was OK, yet had a great attitude, I kept talking to her in her off-times, which weren't many.
The gorgeous Sabine who I like, wasn't working.
Will come again.
Have fun.
Looks like PT Dortsen is having a big blowout on the 9th and is advertising "college girls". Anyone planning on going? I will be flying in that morning from the USA and usually go to Oase upon landing, but maybe this might be worth the drive and fun since I will be staying in Koblenz it is not too far out of the way. Let me know if anyone is considering going and maybe we can meet up.
Jaws,
dont be fooled by that, its just the same girls as usual. Of course if its your first time, they might aswell be College girls. The only college most of these girls have been to is "the college of taking cock all day"
Looks like PT Dortsen is having a big blowout on the 9th and is advertising "college girls". Anyone planning on going?
I'd suggest calling them that day, after they open, to find out how many girls there are. Recently they've been understaffed due to flu. See my report in General Info.
I'll be in the area until 13.Sep, probably mongering around here (Dorsten-Wulfen) and maybe Essen and Dusseldorf. If anyone else is mongering in the area during this time (e.g., the Beverly bash today, 5.Sep), please let me know.
I will be visiting PT Dorsten and Heavensagate on 9/15, 9/16, and 9/17. Thanks to WanKing and others who have posted good reviews of them. I hope the girls will be over the flu and in good moods. This will be my first time to FKK or PT clubs and I can hardly wait. Let me know if anyone else will be in the area.
One question to those that have stayed at Hotel Humbert - I emailed him and he said there is a room available but when I replied and tried to confirm the room, he did not respond...so is it relaxed there and I have one or did you guys have to give credit card info, etc. to book the room?
Also, I will be coming from the Dusseldorf airport via trains, is it easy to find my way around with only speaking English? Any recommedations to help plan?
Thanks once more to all who post here, it is REALLY helpful for me to take the plunge and go. I promise to post reports after!
Kids rocks,
I will be there from 13th to 15th, what time do you arrive at?
Old Humbert is a bit slow on the email, so I would give him a call to verify everything. You dont need a credit card to book either.
The train route you will take is this
Airport - Essen
Essen - Dorsten
Dosten - Wulfen
train info is here http://www.vrr.de/en/
I dont speak any german and find it easy to get around. My advice would be to learn some POLISH phrases for the PT girls.
when I booked my room in Humbert a few weeks ago, Mr Humbert said that since I had been there in June there had been an unusual increase in bookings by foreign guys staying to attend the Partytreff.
The reason for this is probably from my report here but also from my 2 blog listings in Google under the search term : Partytreff Dosten
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=partytreff+dorsten&btnG=Google+Search
I wonder could I convince the Partytreff to give me a free entry or two for my efforts ?? doubt it :D
Although when I took the photos of the garden back in June, and I told the female manager I would write some nice things on the internet, she was delighted and said something like
"Yes please do, and send me more English men like you !!"
WanKing, I arrive at the airport at 5pm and will hop on the trains to Dorsten so I should be at the hotel around 8pm? I am deciding which days I will visit PT Dorsten and Heavensgate - probably go to HG on Friday night, PT on saturday and then decide which I like better for Sunday. Where will you be on Friday night? If you want, leave word with Mr. Humbert. I will put in a good word with you at the clubs, do they know you as WanKing? I will tell them the reason I am there is b/c of your reports.
Thanks to NightCat also for your recent reports. I will be in your footsteps next week at HG and Dorsten. Any update on the flu situation? The last thing I want is to go all the way to Germany and get knocked out by the flu.
Also, a little off topic. What do you guys use to call around to the places when in Germany? A phone card, hotel phone?
Kidrocks
My advice would be to learn some POLISH phrases for the PT girls.
Yes, this is a necessity.
So far I can say "Good day", "Thank you", "I love you", "I love Polish pussy", "Fuck me".
"Honey" or "Sweetie" is something like "Kohanja" or "Kohanya".
yes, this is a necessity.
so far i can say "good day", "thank you", "i love you", "i love polish pussy", "fuck me".
in keeping with the educational nature of this forum and the increasingly multicultural environment of today's typical fkk, i offer below the verb "fuck" in 32 languages, not including several additional regional dialects. this single word is about all you need to get your basic intentions across. if you want to construct a more elaborately detailed message to your intended, you're on your own.
edit: sorry, some of the characters aren't going to translate on this page. they will look like number/character strings.
the verb fuck in different languages
afrikaans: fok ("fok my, fok jou")
armenian: kunel
chinese (cantonese): diu (屌, but often denoted as the character 小 inside the character 門(). pronounced like "dew" in english)
chinese (mandarin/putonghua):
diao (屌) also refers to penis, esp. in northern china; means "damn" or "darn" in taiwan.
cao (肏/操) (pronounced "tsao")
"gan" (幹)(used more by native speakers of taiwanese, it occurs in the expression "gan ni niang!" which means, "fuck your mother!"
croatian: jebati; fukati (probably borrowed from english); karati (literally, to scold)
czech: souložit (to have sex (with)); Šukat, mrdat (vulgar, to have sex (with), to fuck); kurva! (vulgar, literally "*****", in this case meaning "damn!")
dutch: neuken
esperanto: fiki
estonian: nikkuma, nussima, keppima
filipino: kantot
finnish: vittu (curseword, "voi vitun vittu!!"="fucking fuck!!", literal meaning of "vittu" is "****") nussia(verb)
french: baiser (to have sex with); foutre (dismissive: va te faire foutre)
french (canada): nicker; fourrer (literally, to stuff)
german: ficken (to have sex with, pronounced like fucken, just with a short e instead of the u)3
greek: gamao, gamo, gamisi ("g" prounounced softly, as a voiced velar fricative)
hindi: chod ("ch" as in check & "d" is pronounced softly)
hungarian: baszni
icelandic: ríða (pronounced "ree-tha" with a soft th-sound)
indonesian: cuki main
italian: fottere
japanese: ["fuzakeru"¹]
korean: "ssi-bal" (씨발)
malay:"puki" or "celaka"
malayalam:"uook"
norwegian: knulle
persian/farsi: ga-yee-dan
polish: jebać (pronounced yebatch), pierdolić (pronounced [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)-erdolitch), kurwa (pronounced koorva,used as an interjection)
portuguese: foder (or comer subjectively used, because it means "to eat", in northern portugal pinar is also used)
romanian: a fute
russian: yebat' [ебать] (transitive), yebatsa [ебаться] (intransitive).
spanish:
argentina: coger (this same verb in spain means "to take")
chile: culiar
colombia: pichar or tirar
mexico: chingar
spain: joder (usually as an all-purpose expletive, can be accompanied by other expletives) or follar
swedish: knulla
p.s.: in the event that none of the above seems to register with the lady you are attempting to communicate with, i suggest you form an "o" with the thumb and forefinger of one hand, run the index finger of the other hand in and out of it several times, and then point with that index finger in a non-threatening manner first at her and then yourself, preferably while smiling good-naturedly. warning: be sure not to point at yourself first, or she may get the wrong idea and go looking for her assortment of latex appliances. happy hunting!
http://www.notam02.no/~hcholm/altlang/
The alternative dictionary is a great source for those "dirty" words.
Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone is going to be at Beverly on days 15/16/17 Sept.
If so would like to hear from you especially Shiatsu & Cordelia.
Rgds,
Cummin
Jackyo - please, please let me eavesdrop on you picking up a girl in Polish. it will increase my dinner party standing no end. Whoever got you on this road must have been some beauty.
Jackyo - please, please let me eavesdrop on you picking up a girl in Polish. it will increase my dinner party standing no end. Whoever got you on this road must have been some beauty.
Ha!
Actually its a series of Polish women who set me on this course, more specifically the Polish women I've met at PTs.
Its well worth the investment in time.
I have a set of Polish language tapes which I listen to when I have time in the car.
It doesn't cover non-standard Polish though.. the things you most want to say.
With me its Russian. I don't know why. Too much James Bond? That smoldering,deep, unfathomable Ruskie soul? That Russian love of intrigue? Catherine the Great? Russian novels?
With me its Russian. I don't know why. Too much James Bond? That smoldering,deep, unfathomable Ruskie soul? That Russian love of intrigue? Catherine the Great? Russian novels?
... and his trysts with those cool Russian blondes! Kind of forbidden fruit... think Anna Kournikova and Maria Sharapova (seen that Nike ad which has everyone singing "She's so pretty" in the background before she steps out on a court and smacks a tennis ball at full force to a hapless opponent?)
Russian would probably be the more versatile language at the clubs because you would then also communicate with women from the Ukraine, Belarus, etc..
If I were to name one other language I'd like to learn some phrases of it would be Hungarian. Its women with that Gypsy, dark haired, smoldering look that get my attention.
I've had variable results with Romanians, Bulgarians, Albanians, etc..
Counting down to PT trip on Wednesday now, cant wait. I haven't had a shag in 6 weeks and it feels like a fucking lifetime. Still i shouldnt complain, I bet there are guys reading this who have not had sex in 6 six years ( or ever in some cases)
Anyway its great having these trips to look forward to. I pity the poor souls in sexless marriages who for one reason or another can never get away from the old wifey, and just have to dream.
For anyone who thinks I am being cocky, well Im not cos theres plenty I dont have, such as looks and money. SO I need my rants here for a personal boost.
ROCK ON
WK
I know this sounds like a private conversation with Jackyo.....Hungarian, yes most definitely having once had a Hungarian girlfriend.
I know this sounds like a private conversation with Jackyo.....Hungarian, yes most definitely having once had a Hungarian girlfriend.
.. to be Polish and then Hungarian.
I should know. I've checked their internal temperatures with a very precise temperature measurement device which can discern temperature differences to a fraction of a degree.
:-)
Nothing is more of a turnoff than a cold woman.
INTRODUCTION
Partytreff, the ultimate all-inclusive: all day long all you can eat, drink and fuck for only 100€!
Sunday 3 September was D Day : my first Partytreff! I had spend the night before in Goldentime. I woke up and took my breakfast at Hotel Garni, before driving away with my renting car. There is no greater feeling of freedom than driving safely on the German highways at 160km/h, listing to the music on the radio with all the FKK locations blinking on the GPS!
While driving I tried to imagine how Partytreff could be. I had never done swingers clubs before. I had experienced some public sex as well as trio in FKK, but would I be able to manage the wild partytreff scene? Would the girls also be on FKK standards and fancy me? I had also been pressured by my friend Wan King through multiple PM till the very last day as he defied me to make a better report than what he did. Competing against Wan King, this was fun. But I knew I would never make a better report than what he did, and this for two reasons. He discovered PT Dorsten at first and made the very first complete report on ISG. His historical report is now legendary, no other report about PT Dorsten will ever have the same pioneering flavour. Also, I knew I would not be as passionate and as enthusiastic as he was about this concept. Yes, I love sex, but my real goal is archiving a GFE, and Partytreff is not exactly the best place for it. I consider Partytreff as an experience I just want to make at least once in my life. How do a bunch of innocent girls manage to entertain all day long a horde of horny bastards?
PRACTICAL INFORMATION
Partytreff Dorsten Beckenkamp 22 Gewerbegebiet Beckenkamp DORSTEN WULFEN (Tel. 0 23 69 20 68 76) http://www.partytreff-dorsten.de/. Open from Sunday till Thursday from 10H00 till 0H00, Friday from 10H00 till 1H00 and Saturday from 12H00 till 3H00. Entrance is 99€ everyday except Tuesday 88€.
It was easy to find. From Highway A31 continue further than Dorsten and take exit 37 Wulfen. Continue on B58 Wesseler Strasse for 7km. When entering Wulfen, you will see Hotel Humbert (Dülmener Strasse 1 46286 Wulfen, 02369-4109) on the left side. In Wulfen, take left at Dulmener Strasse. Take left at Fritz Eggeling Allee, right at Markt Allee, then right at Beckenkamp. Hotel Humbert with rooms for 34€ is probably the most convenient lodging close to Partytreff Dorsten.
The Club is a regular house in a residential area, but there are clear signs to indicate that it’s not a regular house. The parking is near the house, and the manager can have a look at it from the window at the bar. The manager is a tall Eastern European guy named Roberto. He speaks only German but is very customer minded. He gives all the practical information and takes care that everything is OK during all the stay.
Entrance is 99€ food, drinks and sex all inclusive and there are usually 5 to 8 Polish girls between 20 and 30 years old. There is a special reduction on Tuesday, only 88€ for the same number of girls. I would not recommend coming on Tuesday as for 11€ less, you need to share the girls with much more guys. Another crowded day is Saturday, but then there are also more girls hired in, between 12 and 16. I prefer a more relaxed atmosphere, but this is up to you of course, it allows to have more choice. On a normal day, there are about 20-30 customers. They are mainly German with a few Turkish. there seems not to be any discrimination at entrance.
First think after having paid the entrance fee is going downstairs to the locker room, undress, take a shower and put a towel and sandals on. The key is left at the bar, and the manager asks for your name, in case you won’t remember the number of the key. It all looks like a regular house inside. The main room has two sofas around a table and a TV screen. A funny detail is the chair coming straight out of the 70’ as it is a huge sexy high heel female shoe. The dining and kitchen room has a bar offering free drinks including beers, a buffet with the usual FKK standard food and a few high chairs and tables to sit. There is also a veranda to relax with a babyfoot. The sauna is downstairs outdoor, and the outdoor garden has a Jacuzzi.
But all the action is in the bedrooms upstairs. The main bedroom has a huge bed large enough for 6 couples at the same time, a bathroom with Jacuzzi (not in use). The second room is smaller, but still large enough for 3 couples on the same time. Girls and men have separate bathrooms with shower both upstairs too. Doors of rooms are always open. You get the picture: there is no way getting a private session with a girl. Partytreff is public sex.
How do things go? Well, there seem to be some kind of unwritten rules.
1-When the girls are downstairs, they are resting, smoking a cigarette, drinking or eating, and customers are supposed to respect their break. There is very few interaction downstairs. The girls hardly speak German or English and they are not allowed to speak Polish with the customers. Strange rule, it all seems to indicate that management doesn’t want the girls to communicate with the customers.
2-Customers wanting sex wait in the corridor upstairs, until a girl comes and asks:”Hast du lust?”. This is the beginning of the session, and it ends with “Bitte schön”.
3-Girl takes a shower after each session and is allowed to make a short break downstairs. Management seems to watch out that the girl doesn’t stay too long downstairs.
4-Men are also supposed to take a shower between each session, multiple partners is not the norm, but still possible however. Even if everybody is sharing the same bed, it’s basically one/one sex.
5-Service offered is BBBJ mainly to give an erection and straight sex, mainly on missionary position. Regarding the quantity of sessions girls make, don’t expect from them much more positions. DFK is also seldom given, but DATY is appreciated. Anal and CIM is not in the package.
6-It seems that girls are not allowed to simply stay with a man without offering the here above services. Don’t expect to simply lay with her caressing and kissing, as it would be too time consuming. Girls try to give an orgasm as fast as possible, in order to put the guy out of order for some time and be available again for the next one. And if sex is not enough to make the customer come, they don’t hesitate to do it trough handjob, sometimes with the help of another girl.
PERSONAL EXPERIENCE
I worried at first about how the girls looked like, as I was afraid that no one might fancy me with only 5 girls available on Sunday. This was the good surprise, girls are on the usual FKK standard, even if there was no topper. They looked all surprisingly young. There was no 9, two 8, two 7 and one 6. I define 9 as an absolute stunner, a girl of my dreams, 8 as a girl I could have chosen in an FKK, 7 just a fuckable girl I could have chosen elsewhere if there was no other choice and 6 a definitely no.
It was early, but action had already started, so I decided to have a look at first. To be honest, it didn’t make me horny at all, watching all that rhythmic meat on one bed. Girls had their eyes closed and didn’t seem to enjoy very much what they were doing and men tried to orgasm on a frenetic rhythm, far from any GFE atmosphere of course. One man had problems orgasming and the girl finished him with an energic handjob, I had pain on my dick only by watching it.
I came closer, and one of the girls was still available and invited me to come. Hey, I came for this, so what the hell, let’s enter the game! Anyway, she was also one of the 8 rated girls, so a good start. With my FKK background, I tried to make at first a few small talks and asked: “Wie heist du?”. She smiled and answered: ”Claudia Schiffer”. I felt myself stupid, it seemed that it simply was not usual to make small talks before sex in Partytreff.
After a quick BBBJ to give me an erection, she made me penetrate her in a missionary position. She had her eyes closed and had her head positioned in such a way that it was impossible for me to kiss her. Everyone having experienced RLD knows what I’m talking about. I wondered if all this was really my type of scene.
Nevertheless, I tried to make the best of it. If I hadn’t got the foreplay before, no problem, I would make it with my dick already inside her pussy. I caressed her hairs, looking at her, my dick didn’t move, sometimes just a bit to be sure to keep my erection. I caressed her body, and she seemed to enjoy it. I assumed it allowed her to rest while technically having sex, respecting rule number 6. She then started slowly no move her hips herself, and I followed her, but took care to keep it on a low relaxed rhythm. Something happened, her eyes were still closed, but her face was changing. I started clearly to see her emotions on her face. Her skin color became red and she started to sweat, while she tried to bring me on a quicker rhythm. And yes, she finally opened her eyes and looked straight into my eyes. This was the signal I was waiting for to become horny and going on a quicker rhythm. She helped herself and stimulated her clitoris with her hand, which was not very practical for me, but I was too happy to watch her enjoying the sex too. She looked with desperate eyes into my eyes, asking for more. This was no problem for me, I could hold my load as long as I wanted after a night spend in Goldentime. She was moving more and more enthusiastic, and I noticed that the other girls around were watching at her and seemed surprised by her attitude She orgasmed, and all her energy had disappeared. She didn’t move anymore, but I had not finished. She said: “Danke schön“, and I answered: “Bitte schön“.
At that point, I didn’t believe it was a true orgasm, I believed she faked it in order to stop the session earlier. As she didn’t move anymore, I notices one of the girls watching the scene was available. She had incredible beautiful blue eyes, she was the second 8 girl, I would say an 8+. I believe her name was Laura. I grabbed her, determined to continue sex with a second girl as the first one was already knock out. Of course, I was too horny to make foreplay, so I started to fuck her very straight forward. This was no problem for her, as she is used to it. But it seemed to me that as she was surprised watching her friend enjoying so much sex with me, that she tried also to enjoy it. A good point was that she did look into my eyes from the beginning on, although without kissing. But she was very enthusiastic too. I looked around while fucking and so myself on the mirror. Yes, it’s strange watching yourself fucking in the middle of all that orgy atmosphere. Yes, I felt like King of Partytreff, fucking all the girls one by one with an incredible stamina. Yeah, baby yeah, Austin Routard Power and his mojo were doing great! Guys, you would have been proud of your ISG fellow member! When I had knocked out the second girl, I was ready for a third one, but there were no more sparring partners available anymore. All girls had left one by one. So I went downstairs too without any orgasm.
I needed a break too, took a sandwich at the buffet and a drink at the bar. It allowed me to watch the weird atmosphere, girls on one side, men on other side. Remember rule number 1. Laura was sitting at he bar, and one men tried to have a conversation with her. He was Polish, I discovered later that he was a nice guy too, but he seemed to be a bit drunk. The girl obviously was annoyed and didn’t want to answer. She desperately looked around and suddenly noticed I was watching the scene. I smiled at her, in order to make her understand that I understood that she was annoyed. She looked at me with her incredible beautiful blue eyes and gave me a great smile too. This was one of the great moments of communication in Partytreff.
But then, something unexpected happened again. Claudia came at my table, asked me in English if I wanted to drink something, came back from the bar with the drinks to have a drink together. I smiled at her and said: ”Claudia Schiffer”. She smiled, and started conversation with her limited English, as if she needed to apologize for having made fun of me. Strange, we had first sex and then tried to know each other. But of course, there is rule number 3, so she offered me to go back again to the room. No problem, as I still hadn’t had my first orgasm.
Back to the huge bed, and this time she did more foreplay, and switched position including cowgirl. Again she helped herself with her hand to stimulate her clitoris. Yes, it was great sex, I have to admit. The second time with a girl is always better, when both know each one better. There was a small audience, they seemed to enjoy the show too. I felt I was going to have a great orgasm. She felt I was coming too and shouted from the very deep of her soul “Nein!” I think I will never forget this shout. It was only at that point that I realized that her first orgasm was not faked. Unfortunately it was already too late, and I unloaded myself in a very strong orgasm. She gave a second shout: ”cheissen!” which confirmed me again if I had any doubts that she was struggling for her second orgasm.
I went downstairs resting, but my mind was confused. All my previous theories about GFE where crushed in flames. How could I have given a genuine orgasm to a girl in such conditions? I had put so much energy each time in trying to get a GFE and managed to give until now only 3 orgasms for sure (there might be a couple more but I can not guarantee) on a total of 300 girls (I speak about working girls of course), which means only 1% success, definitely not a rate to brag about. Why did it happen here? Is she simply a nympho girl? The good think about Partytreff is that it allows to watch how other fuck, and I had noticed for sure that she had never had the same attitude with the other men. But what made me different from the others? We hadn’t tried to know us before and she hadn’t even looked at me before. How could the magic of chemistry having occurred? I had noticed that my way of making sex was much different than the others. I have a very slow rhythm and my movement is more like a swimming dolphin. I have also a different position allowing me to go deeper, as I do missionary on my knees with my hips lifting up a bit the hips of the girl. Not easy to describe, but anyway, I don’t believe it makes any difference as it never made any difference to the 297 other girls. The more I learn about women, the more I realize I don’t understand women.
I had to rest anyway after my first orgasm, and started to make conversation with the other customers. One was a young Polish guy, a friend with the good older Polish drunk guy. He spoke very well English, was a regular customer and learned me a lot about the girls, as he understood everything they said. He had noticed too how Claudia came towards me to have a drink before going upstairs, which he confirmed was unusual. He had also noticed how horny she seemed to be with me. He was a bit concerned about his friend, as the manager started to forbid him to take more beers. We discussed together with the manager too; He confirmed that there was a Brit and two American on Saturday. Sorry guys I missed you, as I changed my mind at the last moment. He was surprised that since a few month there were more and more American visitors. Wan King, you are responsible for it!
If there is very few interaction with the girls, there is a good atmosphere between customers. We had fun of each other while we were waiting together in the corridor for a session. At some moment, it became crowded, and no one knew who would manage to go for the next session. At some point, it seems that the girls make up their choice and pick up somebody. There was one guy who was pissed off. He looked like a Chippendale porn actor. All girls refused to go with him, he seemed to be too rude while having sex. Each time, the girls managed to go with another one, leaving him alone on the chair in the corridor. Guys take care and treat them well!
I sampled also the 7 rated girls, but they were not worth it. They simply didn’t move, waiting legs stretched that the guys pumped their load out. While I was fucking one of them a bit annoyed, I entertained myself watching the other couples around me. I would have liked a bit more group sex, but it seems to give concentration problems to most men. I simply managed to caress a bit the girls fucking next to me, that was it. I wanted also to make jokes with a few other fellows while they were having sex, but again I felt it made them loose their concentration. The girls also did not appreciate anything that could make loose concentration and erection of their partner.
During the afternoon, there was a life football match on television: Argentina against Brazil. Most men preferred resting and watching the match. The girls were happy with it and came to watch the match too together on the sofa with the men. I liked this atmosphere, everything became much more natural. Football, sex and beer all day long, every man’s dream for only 99 bucks!
But it was again rush time after the match, all men were horny again. It was a funny sight as each one tried to have a strategic position to be picked up by the girls that would come out of the dressing room. Guys were even fighting for the ugly girl. I watched amused, and knew I came too late, others deserved to go first. Claudia came out and guess what? She took me out of the crowd and asked me to come with her! The other guys were probably pissed off, but she didn’t care, neither did I.
We laid enlaced on the bed, she was still in her underwear. I was happy to feel her close to me, and didn’t really wanted to have sex. She seemed to enjoy too these moments of tenderness. But remember rule number 6. She took off her underwear and said: ”Arbeiten”. No problem, little Routard was ready again for the next round. But not my head. She was in my arms, I forgot little Routard playing with her pussy and looked straight into her eyes. I have never communicated so much only by watching. I tried to understand her, how she managed to work in such conditions, but I did not get the answer. Was she enslaved in some kind of way? She was may be asking herself the same things, what was my idea of fun for coming here. We were too concentrated on each other to have sex and both finished without orgasm.
I saw her later again downstairs, but she was discussing with Laura. Both looked at me and were laughing. Were they making fun of me? Probably not, as Laura managed to go for her next session with me too. Her attitude with me was clear, she wanted to have a nice session with me too. I never saw her kissing before, and she didn’t kiss me also before during our first session. But this time, she kissed me passionately. Yes, I had great sex with her, she definitely tried to have her orgasm too. I could imagine what they were talking about together before. The good thing was that she really is very beautiful too. I don’t believe I gave her an orgasm, but it was one of my best session ever and I finished again with a strong orgasm for my last session in PT Dorsten.
PERSONAL OPINION
To be honest, I was not expecting such good experience. At first I believed it would be an only once in a life experience as I seriously doubted it would be my type of scene. No, I will definitely reiterate it, even if I prefer the FKK experience by far. Again the apple and the orange story, it’s not because I prefer eating orange to apple that I will never eat apple. Both are different experience hard to compare.
Regarding money, I agree, I have never spend 100€ a better way. In FKK, it will only give one session together with the entrance. Here I have spend all day long drinking, eating two meals and having had 7 time sex with 4 women. If let’s say 30€ is for the drinks and the food, it brings a sex session with a gorgeous young babe to…10€!!! There is no better deal worldwide. If it’s my last day of living and I’m allowed to spend only 100€, yes definitely I would come here.
Regarding the public group sex that seems to be an issue for some of you, I was surprised how comfortable I was with it for a first timer. No, I’m not a voyeurist, neither an exhibitionist, and I would certainly not do either one or another in FKK if I feel I might hurt somebody with it, it’s a matter of respect for others. But I simply don’t care if an audience is watching.
My opinion about the girls also is that they are on FKK standard, as well in terms of looks than service. I have to add however that as far as I could inform myself on other local forums and with the customers I have met that PT Dorsten seems to have the best line-up of all Partytreff.
No, but I have one main concern, and you all know what I mean if you have read my personal experience story. There is no interaction with the girls other than sex. I know, we come for the sex, but still…I’m not looking for a romance while I’m coming in Partytreff. Don’t take me wrong. But all the scene just seems to be not human anymore. The Eastern European mafia looking manager, the girls that are not allowed to communicate with the customers, staying 75% of the day on their back legs stretched and each one being fucked by probably more than 30 guys…I just can’t take off my mind that the girls must be enslaved in some kind of way to work in such conditions. I don’t want to sound negative, it’s just that I feel bad for those girls. If I have managed to have a good time even with this in mind, it’s simply because the magic of mutual chemistry had occurred once again, this time in the most unexpected situation.
There is a special reduction on Tuesday, only 88€ for the same number of girls. I would not recommend coming on Tuesday as for 11€ less, you need to share the girls with much more guys. QUOTE]
Routard mon ami,
Great report and welcome to the world of Partytreff.
Just need to correct on 2 points:
1) Tuesday nights. There are more girls than on a regular night - If I recall correctly there were 12 the Tues. that I was there, and probably the same amount of men 20- 25, so the ratio was very good and although the beds were more crowded, there was never a wasted moment. At 88 Euro - can't beat that price!
2) There was a significant amount of interaction at the bar and couch areas, and I did not get the impression at Dorsten that the girls are not supposed to talk to the customers between sessions. My first session just after arriving at the club, happened from striking up a conversation with one of the girl who was chilling out at the bar. After we spoke for about 20 minutes, with some touching and light caressing, she looked at me and asked "Can we go upstairs now?" Later, I met Claudia on the couch, which led to the first of my 2 sessions with her, and to another session with one of her Polish friends. Partytreffs usually include this type of interaction which is whay I'm surprised that you found otherwise.
Hi does anybody know anything about PT Muenster ?
I'll hopefully be in the area around Sep the 25th till Sep the 30th, and thinking of going to check out the place .
Here's the site:
http://www.partytreff-muenster.de/
Thanks in advance.
Hi does anybody know anything about PT Muenster ?
I'll hopefully be in the area around Sep the 25th till Sep the 30th, and thinking of going to check out the place .
Here's the site:
http://www.partytreff-muenster.de/
Thanks in advance.
I've been and can't recommend it.
Small selection of girls, not very appealing visually. Its in a Reihenhaus in a residential neighborhood. The house actually sits on a service road parallel to the main road. This kind of complicates the process of finding the address.
The action takes place in a really dark room on the first floor. The Kontaktzimmer is on the second floor, also self-service food and drink in the kitchen. Food was okay but not great. Massages are given in a room one level up in a back room. If I remember correctly there are also more private rooms on that last floor but they were rarely used.
You make contact with the girl you want on the couches, she takes you downstairs to do the nasty deed. Very hard to manuever on those couches because the regulars come and tend to sit with the girls for hours on end conversing. This partially explains why you will get very little action.
In comparison to PT Dorsten or PT Wagenfeld, they also parcel out their services - its not an "all you want, when you want it, with whom you want it" scenario.
There were five women there on my visit and I was with two of them during my whole stay. At any other PT club, I would have done all five women and repeated with the best ones a couple of times.
It wasn't because there were too many customers either. At most there eight guys there during any one time.
My record at PT Wagenfeld was something 14 sessions in a twelve hour period. I got nowhere close to this record at this club.
I had to kind of romance one of the women I wanted to be with before she agreed to go downstairs with me. Its less direct than say at a PT Dorsten. We sat, she smoked, we talked, she smoked some more, we talked some more, she got up to get something to eat, she came back and then finally I popped the question and she said yes. She was darkhaired, from Russia, large tits and in her early 20s. Its nice in a way because its totally unrushed but it reduces the number of sessions you can have.
I thought maybe I'd park myself at the stair landing and try to snag one of the women on their up or down the stairs. Its not easy to do.
There were a couple German women there who were in their mid thirties who looked like Hobbyhuren (more what you'd expect to find at a Red Carpet Club). As I said, this club does not have visually appealing women.
The second woman I was with, by the way, was one of these Hobbyhurenaehnliche Frauen. Nothing to write home about. She was German, blonde with very large tits (do you see a pattern here?).
I did make the most of their free massage though. Its offered as part of the price and it was with a female masseuse but in a non-sexual way.
Pt Osnabrueck is a tad better but I'd only visit it if I happened to find myself in Osnabrueck and I didn't have a means of transportation to get away.
There is an FKK club at Osnabrueck-Wallenhorst, by the way. A guy I met at Heavensgate from Osnabrueck says its a decent club.
No, but I have one main concern, and you all know what I mean if you have read my personal experience story. There is no interaction with the girls other than sex. I know, we come for the sex, but still…I’m not looking for a romance while I’m coming in Partytreff. Don’t take me wrong. But all the scene just seems to be not human anymore. The Eastern European mafia looking manager, the girls that are not allowed to communicate with the customers, staying 75% of the day on their back legs stretched and each one being fucked by probably more than 30 guys…I just can’t take off my mind that the girls must be enslaved in some kind of way to work in such conditions. I don’t want to sound negative, it’s just that I feel bad for those girls. If I have managed to have a good time even with this in mind, it’s simply because the magic of mutual chemistry had occurred once again, this time in the most unexpected situation.
I disagree about the girls not being allowed to communicate. I've managed to have conversations with them mostly in broken German, had laughs while learning Polish with them in bed (is there a better way?). They even played a joke on me by teaching me that "dick" in Polish was the word for kind of sausage; a very small sausage.
Some guys visit a PT club with the intention of being with as many women as possible, coming as often as possible. I am as much into finding a human interaction as I am into having sex.
At the end of my last visit, I was talking with a couple of them downstairs and they remarked that I always had a smile on my face. Most customers don't smile at all. This makes a difference in humanizing the experience.
Its also about providing an enjoyable experience for my partner. I always treat her with respect, make sure she is comfortable, stroke her hair. But it is true that they don't kiss as a rule and they don't always make eye contact.
Having one of these girls come is difficult and you somehow have managed to achieve that. Bravo!
I do worry about the girls becoming so jaded that sex doesn't mean anything to them. According to them, they work two to three weeks on, two to three weeks off, d.h. they drive back to Poland to recharge in between periods of work.
It is difficult work and these women deserve to be treated well.
I was there with the Breadman earlier this year. It was late and we were sitting on the couches downstairs and had just about decided we were going to leave. We'd arrived there at noon and had spent the whole day.
A couple of girls come downstairs for their break (they take one very hour for a couple of minutes or so). They don't sit together but one to my side, one to the Breadman's. So we are just there on the couch making some small talk, kind of just touching and before long I feel my loins start to stir again. I look over to the Breadman and he is having the same thoughts: "One last round!".
So off we go upstairs again with our partners and before you know it we are at it again.
The manager does look like a pretty stern dude but he actually is quite helpful. Is the blonde behind the counter who serves drinks his wife? I'd like to do her if she ever decided she needed to fill in for one of the girls.
Thanks Jackyo and Iseeu for your reaction. This is the good thing about a forum, each one has different personality or visit the club at a different moment with different atmosphere, all this resulting into different opinions.
By the way, nothing wrong with the manager, I just talked about his look (not his fault) and not his attitude. And the blonde girl behind the bar is his, sorry Jackyo.
Yes of course, there is some kind of interaction, remember my story with Claudia, as well as the football match on TV. The girls are maybe allowed to communicate, but probably only when they have satisfied the sexual needs of all customers. Remember, when I was there, the ratio was 6 men for one girl. If the ratio falls down to 2 men for 1 girl, they will probably have more time for socializing.
I had probably a strong opinion about it. Nevertheless, socializing is not the main purpose in partytreff, and it's definitely not at the level of FKK. The night before partytreff, I stayed probably 4-5 hours with the same girl in Goldentime and had sex only for 30min with her. At World last Friday, I had spend a wonderfull night at the bar downstairs in a pub atmosphere, discussing and drinking for hours together with Peter and two girls. He had found a marvelous young Romanian girl (we both tried the other's girlfriend too...he he!!!), and I was accompanied with my favorite Cuban Gloria (I'm sure you remember her from our last time right Iseeu?). When Peter left, I stayed till closing time discussing alone with Gloria, and I consider having with her a true friendship. She gave me her celphone number and we keep in touch for the next time. Not in Partytreff...and not in Kansas.
Sorry Iseeu that we missed each other that night. But Shiatsu told me you wouldn't make it.
Once again id like to mention the fact that Heavensgate is only a mile away from the Dorsten Partytreff.
For guys not knowing if they'll like the partytreff scene, a good fkk club is a short hop away.
For guys wanting to try both types of clubs on the same day, the proximity of these two clubs make this possible.
Routard, you made no mention of the gynecologist chair in the main room upstairs in your review...was it still there?
Haha, I forgot indeed the gynecologist chair! But it's because on that day at least I didn't see anybody using it. There was probably no doctor among the customers!
Haha, I forgot indeed the gynecologist chair! But it's because on that day at least I didn't see anybody using it. There was probably no doctor among the customers!
There is one at PT Osnabrueck too.
Its upstairs in one of the so-called private rooms. So-called because there are no doors and one or more of them have windows from the corridor into the room.
Most of the action is on a gigantic Spielwiese in an Egyptian theme past these rooms.
Curious about the entire buzz on Partytreff Dorsten, I simply had to check it out. There are some extremely well written reports (with Wan King (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=477195&highlight=dorsten#post477195) as the instigator) on the subject in this thread, so I will only contribute some extra information that may or may not have been covered earlier.
How can anyone tell that Partytreffs are for them, before having tested anything like it? Well, I couldn’t. In fact I was quite nervous that I would get stage fright. As an example, I am quite uncomfortable with even getting a BJ in the Kino in FKK Palace, not to mention fucking. I just hate it when men gather to point and stare like they haven’t seen a porno before. Men that probably wouldn’t dare performing in front of an audience themselves. That being said, I had the image in my head that there were a big bed in a middle of a room, and men was standing around all sides and cheering. Thankfully, that wasn’t the case. There simply isn’t enough space to have people watching unless they stand in the doorway, so in fact the environment is quite private – if you don’t mind the other couples next to you. Actually I discovered that I like watching all the action while little Everhard takes a nap, so if they ever choose to replace the walls with a glass windows, I’d salute them. Apart for the ability to watch the action, another good reason to stay upstairs is because it is a non smoking area, and the ventilation is quite poor.
Beforehand, my guess was that I would fuck every girl once, minus some girl that was too ugly. Not so. Seven girls attended that day. Entering, I immediately decided that there was one 7, one 6 and the rest of the girls were rated below. This wasn’t really a problem for me, as girls tend grow on you the more you see them when no other options are available. Especially when you see them have sex. I’ll refer to the 7 as the Prima Donna, because she is just that. Plus a bit lazy and spoiled. Don’t misunderstand me. I appreciate that they have a very though job. Surely tougher than being one of the more popular girls in Amsterdam RLD. When I first read about the phenomenon that girls like to be licked as a means to have a break, I couldn’t really grasp it. But having seen the action, I totally understand it. I did partake in some licking myself, but not very much. The Prima Donna also likes being stroked or massaged and as the (whipped;)) gentleman I am, I naturally obliged. So, I only fucked some of the girls, although they all had my cock in their mouth at some time or another. Not an impressive record for a whole day, but something to improve upon later:) The thing is I did the Prima Donna quite a few times instead; more times than I can remember. I’m not entirely sure how it happened, but I think
1. She was after all the Prima Donna at the place.
2. My dick and her pussy had a very good fit, and I could feel the Flow (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=507529#post507529) while fucking her.
3. When I was upstairs watching other couples have sex, I declined some offers because I felt too exhausted. When Prima Donna came along she just grabbed me as if she knew I wasn’t too exhausted to fuck her a bit more. Of course she was right:)
The food was better than I had expected, and as I enjoyed the whole setting so much, I stayed until closing time. Ten minutes before closing I was still fucking the Prima Donna, and five minutes before closing we had a shower together. :cool:
As a rookie it takes some time to learn “the queuing system”, and at times there was quite a long waiting list. This was to be expected. Oh by the way, how does it work then? As I understand, it is 50% regular queue and 50% law of the jungle! My only complaint would be that I spotted a real fuckbunny that I wanted to do. Annoyingly, she avoided me. Oh well, no point in “forcing” someone to do you if she doesn’t want to.
It’s probably impossible to surpass the euphoria of a “first time experience” again, but I will visit a Partytreff again as soon as I can manage to see if just maybe...
Everhard, on occasion a.k.a. Limpy;)
Just back from my few days in PT Dorsten, and I have alot to report. But for now, I met a german guy there, who reads the forum here and he said
"There is a man with username Jackyo, and I think he is a real expert"
For anyone that’s new or for more specific details about Party Treff Dorsten, please visit my original report from June 06 here:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=477195&highlight=dorsten#post477195
Sept 13 - hours 1pm - 12am
Sept 14 - hours 12pm - 12am
Ok, I’ll leave the more boring details till last this time, and just get straight into some of the fantastic sex I had there: I managed 6 cums on the first day, and three on the second. I didn’t Chonk for 2 whole days before my visit, and I had a full throbbing sack of love fluid. On day 1 there were only 6 girls and the club was very busy, but the atmosphere was electric, and the girls were really working hard.
The most visual sexual delight there was the boss Wolfgang’s girlfriend Patricia, who was assisting behind the bar on day one. She is 19 years old, and really beautiful. She started in the club as a hooker for 6 months before Wolfgang took her for himself. She has been with Wolfgang for 9 months now, so she would have been available to the general public from about June 05 to Xmas 05. She simply has one of the most beautiful faces I have ever seen, and I would give my right arm to fuck her. At one point I walked to the bar, and she was sitting on the counter behind the bar, wearing a short skirt and she had her legs open, and she was showing her pussy “Basic instinct” style to the World. I nearly fell over when I saw it!!!! Then for the rest of the day she continued to flash it to me. When I was in the Jacuzzi she gave me a very good look at it, and later she bent over and let her little skirt come up around her waist and I got a really good look at her anus. The best was later in the evening when she sat on the couch talking to one of the other girls, and I was sitting opposite looking at her, and this really seemed to please her. The more I stared the more she started to open her legs, and when I started to masturbate she opened her legs all the way. Horny stuff.
I really hope Wolfgang breaks it off with her soon, and she has to go back on her back!!
Sessions 1 and 2 were both with Evelinia, a plump blonde 19-year-old polish girl, who has great tits, and actually a firm body under her puppy fat. She’s also a lovely girl, and speaks almost fluent English. She has long curly blonde hair, a cute face and glasses. She doesn’t kiss but I found the sessions with her very intimate, and almost GFE like because of her caresses, and her kisses on my chest and shoulders. And her pussy got really wet when I licked it. I was chuffed when she told me that I was the first guy to ever lick her anus!!
Session 3 started with short haired, stocking wearing Kinga, a small slim girl. She was giving me head, when a long haired blonde girl came to join us. I then fur filled a life long fantasy: I fucked Kinga missionary style while the other girl stood over her, and I then rimmed her as she was bent over holding the wall for support. Kinga and the other girl kept giggling while this was going on. It really was a session for the memory books.
I took along break after session 3, and went for a long Jacuzzi, then food and some beers. During the long break I began to obsess over this tall beautiful blonde girl named Nina. This girl is a 9 in my book, and she could easily do very well in an FKK club. She is about 175cm in her bare feet, with long blonde hair and blue eyes. Her tits are a nice handful and her legs go on forever. She is also a half sister of bitchy Sonia (more on her later), and she proudly told me that there is only 9 months between her and Sonia, and “we have a different father”. I later joked to some guys that the mother was probably a street hooker, who didn’t bother using condoms and just continually got pregnant and dropped kids.
Anyway I had sessions 4 and 5 with Nina, and both sessions were fantastic. She did DFK and allowed fingering, albeit lightly. Her BBBJ was world class and her **** was really wet when I licked it. She has a protruding anus bud but I gladly licked it anyway. Also she has a lovely shaped bottom, which I can clearly see in my mind as I write this.
Session 6 was with Evelina again, and had to be a quicky as it took place at 11.30 pm, and sex ends at 11.45 pm. Anyway she made me orgasm for the sixth time in the day with a mighty hand job.
Day 2 was very different from day 1. There were far less clients, and 9 girls in attendance. The day started off well, but by about 7 pm, all the girls all seemed to be in bad form, and most were doubling up all the time. But in many cases one of the girls would be just lie there while the other girl did most of the work. There were also not allowing much DATY, and were giving very short BBBJs. I think they got into bad form because there were so few clients, and the smaller than usual cut of the money would be divided between 9 girls. Its known that the girls get 30 – 40% of the daily take divided between them, so if it’s a busy day with 6 girls, they might get €250-€300 each, but on a bad day with 9 girls, it might be only €100 - €150 each.
I think the busier Party Treff Dorsten is, the better the sex is. Anyway the day got off to a great start for me, although I wasn’t feeling that horny due to my 6 cums the previous day.
Session 1 of the second day was the highlight of my trip this time. It involved 3 girls. It started off with this beautiful longhaired brunette, who gave an amazing suck. I was lying there getting my blow, and another tall skinny blonde came to join in. I then motioned the brunette to sit on my face, while the blonde continued the blowjob. I was then in sexual heaven for a while licking one girl, and getting sucked by the other. And then I felt another girl sit down beside me, and more hands on my legs and balls, and then 2 mouths were sharing my cock!!! That was just sooo horny. Then two different hands were taking it in turns to wank me. I eventually had another massive cum. Fucking fantastic!!!
I had now cum 7 times in 24 hours, and had really over done it to be honest. I went on to have 2 more good sessions later that evening but I never felt very horny again that day.
Session 2 was not good, as I just wanted to lick pussy, but the two hot women I got with would only let me do it to both of them for a few minutes each, neither had any English and couldn’t understand why I didn’t want to fuck. So I just abandoned it and went to the bar for a long time, and socialised with some of the guys I had met up with.
Session 3 was a total disaster, I wanted to fuck Nina alone, as in not with her sister who she had paired off with for the day. Now I can hear some of you say “Why wouldn’t n you want two women??” Well the answer is, any other girl would have been fine, but I just don’t get on with Nina’s sister Sonia. She was present all the days when I was there in June, and there was just some personality clash. Anyway I asked her could she let Nina and I be alone, and this pissed her off and she went on to ruin the session, cos when I was licking Nina’s lovely pussy, she reached in and sprayed massage oil all over her pussy, and started laughing and sniggering, and basically just put me right off. I could tell that she was also pissed her sister off. So again I abandoned the session and retired to the bar for another while.
I waited along time for session 4, and that was a nice intimate one with Kinga, who I had the previous day. It took a mighty hand job to get me to cum though.
My last session was at the end of the day, and involved 3 girls, one on my face and two giving me a mighty hand job, and eventually I shot a little dribble of cum. Nice though.
Conclusion: Well all in all I had a great time, but I over did it on the first day. I had some nice intimate sessions and some really wild ones. Shame the vibe wasn’t so good on the second day but at least it was electric on the first day.
Additional Notes:
Well the club seems to be going fine. Evelina, who speaks English, gave some more info about the workings of the club. She said that many of the girls usually only plan to stay working in the club for a short time to raise some money for a goal back in Poland, like buying a car, or repairs to an apartment etc. She said that it really varies from girl to girl. Also some girls go there for a few months just to make extra money to supplement some crappy job back in Poland, like hairdressing or working in a bar.
Only a minority of girls working in PT Dorsten are full time professional prostitutes she said. She her self has only been there a few weeks, and hopes to stay about three more months before she will return to Poland, and then she will go to college eventually. (Well so she says) She said that most girls stay at least 6 weeks before they return to Poland for a week or two, and then return. She said there are no girls that work 2 weeks on, and 2 weeks off like I had been told by other guys, simply cos its too expensive to be travelling back and forward to Poland on such a regular basis.
She also went on to tell me that some poor girls arrive from Poland and only end up staying one day before going back to Poland again. Also many of the new girls cry themselves to sleep at night, until they either leave or just get used to being “sex machines” as she called them. Another thing I noticed for the first time was 3 or 4 of the Polish girls who couldn’t speak any German, so they were trying to communicate with local German guys in English. These were younger girls who have been learning English in School as opposed to German.
It seems that my report from June this year, and blog listings in google
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=partytreff+dorsten&btnG=Google+Search
have been sending a lot of business to the club. Mr Humbert of http://www.hotel-humbert.de/ was delighted I mentioned his hotel in my reports and gave me some free beers as a bonus. He verified that there has been a big increase in English speaking men staying in his hotel since June. I also met 3 guys in the club, which decided to visit the partytreff, cos of my original report. An American guy, a Canadian, and a German, and all 3 are regular readers of the forum here. You know who you are guys. I was delighted to have plenty of English speaking company between sessions in the club. I also told the manager of the club that I gave the place a good report but I think she thought I was joking with her.
The dinner was nice both days. Both days it was chicken schnitzel with potatoes and salad. Dinner is always served at 4pm. Before and after dinner there are bread rolls, salami and cheese. The football game has been moved inside now, and there is a massage table that I haven’t seen before in the main room.
And that’s about it for the moment guys.
Cheers
WK
Just back from my few days in PT Dorsten, and I have alot to report. But for now, I met a german guy there, who reads the forum here and he said
"There is a man with username Jackyo, and I think he is a real expert"
I don't know if I've earned the title but thanks!
I usually find myself having conversations with the guys I meet at these clubs and the funny thing is that the German guys I meet usually have a very different perspective on the FKK scene.
Usually they only know their local clubs.
As someone who doesn't live there I don't take a local view of the scene but a regional and even national view. They are usually taken aback when I describe to them clubs elsewhere in their own country.
The usual response is: "But that is 200 or 300 kilometers from where I live. Its too far for me to drive and to get to."
I never hesitate to remind them that I had to fly thousands of kilometers to get to visit these clubs so a drive of 200 kilometers or so is nothing.
I couldn't understand this for the longest time but now I think I do.
To them its similar to me saying to someone: "I like to visit the Gap store in my neighborhood. And then I also like to visit the Gap store which is a two hour drive from me."
The logic escapes them because to them driving 2 hours to buy a t-shirt which is available at their neighborhood shopping center which is ten minutes away doesn't make sense.
Its as if to say that what they have locally cannot get better than what is available elsewhere.
Its the non-residents who take a supra-regional view of the entire scene and work to identify destination clubs and separate them from the neighborhood ones. Granted there are Germans who know the entire scene from top to bottom and have been at it longer than I have too.
The last time I was at Dorsten we met a guy there who was local (in fact he would take the bus to the PT at least once a week and was a regular there). I started to talk about Heavensgate which is just across the Landstrasse and can't be more than half a kilometer away and he was quite amazed there was even such a thing as another club in a different format in the area.
I have finsihed my PT Dorsten report below.
Also many of the new girls cry themselves to sleep at night, until they either leave or just get used to being “sex machines” as she called them.
Wan King,
Excellent report again, even if I feel that it's not the same enthusiam as when you discovered the club for the first time. Of course, the first time we tend to see only the good part of it. Now, you seem also to feel unconfortable with the girls' working conditions. I stayed for two days with your hereabove sentence in my head, imagining the two girls I was close to in the described situation.
I found Bernd's to have the same level of erotic atmosphere than PT Dorsten. The difference was that the girls at Bernd's genuinely love what they are doing, they seem to be proud to play in word champion league of sex. It's more expensive of course, but for me it is worth to pay more only for this reason. You should definitely try this club if you have never been before.
Wan King,
Excellent report again, even if I feel that it's not the same enthusiam as when you discovered the club for the first time. Of course, the first time we tend to see only the good part of it. Now, you seem also to feel unconfortable with the girls' working conditions. I stayed for two days with your hereabove sentence in my head, imagining the two girls I was close to in the described situation.
I found Bernd's to have the same level of erotic atmosphere than PT Dorsten. The difference was that the girls at Bernd's genuinely love what they are doing, they seem to be proud to play in word champion league of sex. It's more expensive of course, but for me it is worth to pay more only for this reason. You should definitely try this club if you have never been before.
I agree that if you really want to stay politically correct, it matters that you visit clubs where the women enjoy themselves.
Bernd's would be just such a club, probably even the most extreme form of women taking control over their lives and bodies.
Also sticking with German providers lessens (but does not eliminate) this taint.
Treat the women with respect no matter what club you are in though.
I agree that if you really want to stay politically correct, it matters that you visit clubs where the women enjoy themselves.
Let me correct this, it's not only a matter of political correctness. My own pleasure is decupled by the girl's pleasure. :)
Let me correct this, it's not only a matter of political correctness. My own pleasure is decupled by the girl's pleasure. :)
Monsieur le Routard,
I too have the most fun at sessions where my partner has fun.
I was once in Montreal with one of those unapproachable women you would never dream of ever approaching in real life. When I opened the door to let her in my hotel room, I nearly fell on the floor. She was just stunning, had a nice face and figure.
Though she was nice, she was also a little distant but I said to myself, okay, no problem. I would deal with it.
Then we went at it with her on top and she came.
Her face was red, she started to breath heavily. She tried not to say a word though, tried to hide it from me. Some women come loudly, she tried to keep a lid on it.
I asked her and she kind of hesitatingly had to admit that she had come. It was so cute.
Her coming broke the ice. I had booked a two hour session and though for the first thirty minutes she was okay but distant, the last hour and a half was totally uninhibited and she got into it herself.
I came twice but she must have come at least six times. At the end she got more out of it than I did.
Sessions like this I remember.
The ones I forget are the ones where she goes through the motions.
If you can get a PT girl to come though and by conventional means.. that is an achievement. I've never been able to do that.
Routard,
I dont care too much about the girls situations, I was just relating what was told to me. although when she said "some new girls cry themselves to sleep" I did take a little pity.
You are right in that the place didnt have the same magic this time round, but isnt it nearly always like that after you have visited a club once. I will go there again though forsure.
Just back from my few days in PT Dorsten, and I have alot to report. But for now, I met a german guy there, who reads the forum here and he said
"There is a man with username Jackyo, and I think he is a real expert"
Wan King, of course Jackyo is famous, he is moderator on the major German forum. In fact, plenty of ISG members are also posters on the local forums, I was even surprised to find out that Novize was still active.
Wan King, of course Jackyo is famous, he is moderator on the major German forum. In fact, plenty of ISG members are also posters on the local forums, I was even surprised to find out that Novize was still active.
I've been outed! :-)
For some reason discussing my experiences on this forum satisfies some unexplained need. I have since the beginning of the year actually done more postings here than elsewhere.
There is a wealth of information out there on the most obscure clubs from guys who know the scene best but it is mostly inaccessible to the linguistically challenged.
Hard to describe the German language forums as being competition to this forum, I would say. There is just so much more content.
A lot of what is written is not even in standard book German - you need an understanding of slang and have to be able to put the content in the right cultural context.
I forget to mention the nice erotic Jacuzzi I had with sexy blonde bombshell Nina near the end of the second night in the PT. It was after a session and I was empty in the sack area, but she sat on my lap, and played footsie with her sister (9 months older, different fathers, mother a Polish street hooker who didnt use condoms:D etc) who was in the opposite corner on another guys lap. My new American friend was also present closley observing the goings on. Despite my empty sack, I did have a solid erection.
PT Dorsten is still an amazing and very sexy club! I have mastrubating non-stop since I got home thinking about all the holes I licked there...
It was almost as good as this pic!!!
Hard to describe the German language forums as being competition to this forum, I would say. There is just so much more content.
Where is much more content? Here or in the German forums? (Occasionally I read the Roemerforum, but I find it less well organized than this forum, and information is harder to find for me.)
euro
Where is much more content? Here or in the German forums? (Occasionally I read the Roemerforum, but I find it less well organized than this forum, and information is harder to find for me.)
euro
.. another forum, the German forums offer so much more for a serious researcher, at least one who can get over the linguistic hurdle.
The German language is enough of a barrier to the average English speaker, IMHO, to think of these forums as non-competing forums.
"Poppen und posten" that is their motto.
The Roemer, by the way, got their name from a sequence of posts the guys would exchange in language straight out of Asterix comicbooks (the German version, not the French version). Hence the Roemer (or Roman) reference.
Cookie was the first to post in this style. He is usually the master of ceremonies at their anniversary events.
These appeared in an earlier German forum which doesn't exist anymore. Eventually the Roemer established their own forum.
The guys post in a kind of a German Pig-Latin which is incredibly funny but you have to know a) who Asterix is, b) understand its part of an inside joke, c) make out the sense of the Pig-Latin.
So even if you speak German, you might not understand why the guys throw these Latin references around. Yet another obstacle aside from the slang to understanding their posts.
You would have the impression that the guys are Latin scholars if you knew no better. I have met them and they are about as normal as you and me and come from all walks of life.
The posters are either Legionnaires, Senators, Emperors, Centurions etc.. and they address themselves with "Ave"... you get the picture.
This goes back a long way, by the way. I first started reading about FKK clubs on the earlier German forum back in 98. My first club visit was in 99.
Thanks Jackyo, now I understand why they use all the strange phrases.
As I have mentioned before, my school german is far from enough to understand what is written in that forum. Still, I believe it's worthwhile to look there if you understand some German. This summer, I used it to follow which girls that were on vacation and who I could see at the club. Since the updates were so daily regarding my favourite club, Bernds, it was very useful.
I have to travel some 1300 km to go there, so I better plan in advance. To compare with comments I also have heard from German visitors about "200 km to go so it is of course too far..."
The guys post in a kind of a German Pig-Latin which is incredibly funny but you have to know a) who Asterix is, b) understand its part of an inside joke, c) make out the sense of the Pig-Latin.
Well, sure I get that. My German is actually pretty decent. And I studied Latin in high school. (And read Asterix&Obelix in German and Latin, btw.) So, yes, I understand (most of) the jokes in the Roemerforum. But being funny is not the main thing that I look for in a post.
Plus, I know what the phrase "gnothi seauton" means, and where it was used in A&O. How is that for esoteric?
It's all good.
euro
Hi all,
I am an American Asian who had to travel around the Europe very frequently in recent 2 years. Thanks to all your excellent reports, it has been a rountine to visit the three best FKKs instead of previous RLD whenever I landed in FRA, either for short transit or so.
This time, I have a longer time to stay in Germany and I planned to go to PT Dorsten as was inspired by the reports (especially those details by Wan King). However, as PT Dorsten is located in the NRW area and I wandered if it is kind of red carpet clubs that set ethnic limitations for entry? I ever made an inquiring letter to PT Dorsten through their website but got no response, could anyone give me the information?
BTW, did the Bernd's set the ethnic limit?
Thanks in advance!
No ethnic limit in PT dorsten. You will be fine.
Thanks to all your excellent reports, it has been a rountine to visit the three best FKKs instead of previous RLD whenever I landed in FRA, either for short transit or so.
However, as PT Dorsten is located in the NRW area and I wandered if it is kind of red carpet clubs that set ethnic limitations for entry? I ever made an inquiring letter to PT Dorsten through their website but got no response, could anyone give me the information?
BTW, did the Bernd's set the ethnic limit?
.. at any clubs that I am aware of except at the Alperbeck in Dortmund which is a Red Carpet.
I've also read a statement on the Muenster FKK club website saying they have an exclusively German clientele but otherwise you will be welcome anywhere.
Turks are the most derided minority in Germany and they are present at all major clubs.
I've seen Turks at PT Dorsten.
If you want to have absolutely no problems entering a club, you can visit the clubs which are oriented towards a Turkish clientele. I am aware of two: Penelope in Essen and Ali Baba in Wuppertal.
Nothing wrong with the Turks, by the way. I have had good experiences with Turkish women, have even memorized a few Turkish phrases.
I've not heard or read about the Turks discriminating against others so far.
But you needn't go that far.
What the clubs and women don't like are jerks, which I presume you aren't. Jerks aren't welcome anywhere.
I will dispute your assertion that the best FKK clubs are in Frankfurt but will not hold it against you. :-)
You need to get out more. There is a larger world out there.
After my very first P4P experience, detailed here http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=511147&postcount=1081 I went to PT Dorsten the day after, and here is my report of that experience.
On Saturday, I drove to PT Dorsten. The house was a bit tricky to find, even though I had studied maps beforehand. It turned out it was hidden at the end of a cul-de-sac. I got there at a quarter past their opening time, 12 o’clock. As I rang the bell and approached, the manager opened the door and greeted me. He was very friendly, and by this time I had remembered enough German to have no trouble understanding him. Even if I had, I had thoroughly studied Wan King’s excellent reports here, and felt I knew how things worked very well.
After changing into towel and slippers, I gave the manager my key and my name and entered the club proper. There were a couple of girls sitting at a table in the food area. They motioned me over to sit down with them and we talked a bit. One of them was a tall, trim woman in her late 20’s, with long light brown hair with blonde highlights. I wish I had taken greater notice of her name and characteristics, for she turned out to be very good at what she did, and I had three or four encounters with her during my stay. Very good BBBJ and she did not mind continuing to completion, even though she did not allow CIM.
I will not detail all the girls I went with during that day, mostly because the individual encounters have tended to blur together. Not having to watch my clock or wallet made me just enjoy the experience. I did not mind so much who or where or for how long. Sometimes it lasted just a couple of minutes because of no chemistry, at which point I would call a “pause”, feeling no need to prolong something that wasn’t very good to start with. Sometimes it was much better. The girl Nina, who I think have been mentioned before in reports from PT Dorsten was one such experience, with an amazing BBBJ, employing her tongue stud to great effect. Sadly I was not alone in appreciating her skills, and later in the day she was constantly busy I was unable to get a repeat with her. Good things there were so many other diversions!
What of the public sex then? At first, I admit, it was somewhat intimidating. I had never had sex in public before, but I had been enticed by the idea. It felt as if I ought to like it. And by the end of the evening, I was not only liking it, I was absolutely loving it. Knowing that I was on the bed with one (or more) cute girl who was devoting her full attentions to my pleasure while the onlookers stood there, jealous of me (or so I pictured it), was quite nice. I was the lucky bastard for once.
As for the facilities and the club environments, those have been reported before, and I found nothing to amend to the great reports I read here both prior to and after my visit.
One thing I have not seen written however, and which left me wondering if it was a special event for that evening only, took place at half past nine in the evening. At that point, the manager gathered every customer, some 20-25 men at that point, in the downstairs big room. All the girls were there, lights were turned down, loud music began playing and shutters were lowered over all windows. It did have a feeling of being locked inside a vault. With the music and the disco lights, I expected a dance show, but instead the girls all started to suck and fuck all the men in there. It was like a scene out of a porno flick. As I was standing there, looking at the proceedings, one of the girls just came up and ripped my towel off and started going down on me almost before I had noticed what she was doing. The whole thing went on for maybe twenty, twenty-five minutes, and I think most of the guys came in that time. It’s quite safe to say I had never expected to see, even less experience myself, something like that.
After that, at 10 o’clock, there was a bunch of new arrivals, as the entry fee dropped to 100€ at that time. I don’t think missing the above experience would have been worth, saving only 25€.
An hour later the place was pretty crowded, over 30 guys, and the girls started to seem a bit tired. I am not the least bit surprised, considering they had been going for almost twelve hours straight. I had a good session with that first girl I mentioned, whom I cannot remember the name of, and decided to end on that high note and left.
My conclusion? For 125€, that was easily the strangest and yet most exhilarating experience of my life. I love the FKK experiences I had too, but comparing them is like comparing apples and oranges. They are both good in their own way, and they complement each other quite well.
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Went there last night (27 Sep 2006), it was my 2nd visit after the 1st one almost a year ago.
Price was a good bargain, 88 Euro all inclusive ( girls and food ).
There were 10 girls, mostly Romanian, except a few, one was mixed Romanian/Spanish, another one was German/Jamaican and another one was Turkish.
Atmosphere was very friendly and even most of the gentlemen around were in good mood, there was about 10-15 gentlemen around. Most of them belonged to group from ex-Yugoslavia, one Frenchman, 2 Germans, and myself.
Chatted a bit here and bit there at the beginning then had a session with Yasmin (Romanian 22, a bit chubby but nice, I´d rate her a 6.5).
2nd session was with Lucy (German/Jamaican), 21 , she looks like the MTV videoclip girls that appear in Snoop Dogg's videos, great body and very hot.
3rd session was with Mirabella (Turkish), and it was real fun as she spoke Spanish having worked in Spain for over a year, and we had a nice chat that ended with a satisfying session.
Food was great, a lot of grilled meat & chicken and wide choice of salads.
Very satisfying expreience.
Cheers.
There were 10 girls, mostly Romanian, except a few, one was mixed Romanian/Spanish, another one was German/Jamaican and another one was Turkish.
I've been there. This place is acceptable as a PT but it is not a place I'd drive out of my way to go to.
I noted for example that though there were 10 women there, you only went with three. I had a similar experience.
This could be for several reasons: a) you didn't find them attractive, b) you were very selective, c) you were too tired and only wanted to do a sample, d) they did not offer a true "all you can do with whoever you want to do it with" experience and were parceling out their services.
Just curious. In my case, my reduced productivity was due to all of the above.
In contrast, at other PTs its round the clock action.
At any other PT I'd have done all ten of them and repeated several times with the best ones.
I was last week in south germany and was too lazy to drive 400 miles to the north. It was an occasion to test what can be encountered south of Koeln in the all-inclusive scene.
I checked early this year the Stuttgart scene and was very disappointed; therefore decided to test the Geizstall in Saarbrueken: a former FKK that switched to a 100 Euro all day menu. The adress is easy to remember: Hauptstr.123 (main street 123).
The place is not big: a bar, a one bed room, a Wiese for about 3 couples and a bathroom with sauna. One shower for 4 girls and 7 boys is far from enough!
My first contact was with a german girl slightly overweighted. After a good BBBJ, the FS session was a fiasco as the sum of our bellies did prevent from any successful attack.
I continued with 3 sessions with hungarian girls: one session was acceptable with the nicest girl, the other two one were below average.
Between sessions, I was constantly annoyed by the barmaid who complained that I should not be sleepy on the place and nearly tried to throw me away.
As a conclusion, I would not recommend this place and have regret not to have two 50 euro session with Tip a nice thai on the MetzStr.
The swingerclub Burg Ibiza in 82256 Fürstenfeldbruck, 20 km west of Munich ranks as the biggest swingerclub in Germany. Their site claims that there is no prostitution but they organize a Gang Bang on wednesday evening with "Hausfrauen".
It is open to couples but singles who pay 80 Euro get a red armband that allows these hausfrauen to recognize whom they are devoted to service.
The place is huge with a very clean shower-sauna-relax area, tens of rooms and a chimney saloon; it is even bigger outside but the season is getting cold.
On arrival, I was begged to service a woman by her companion; Although, I did not go til FS, it was really fun to see her having orgasm after orgasm.
Once every 60-90 minutes, the four solo-girls that are invited by the club are going upstair for a big orgy on the common mat. There was about 12 solo men. All this turns into a big mix up where you do not precisely whom belongs this arm or leg.
The girls are servicing with mouth and hand and leave their bottom as self service. It is your responsibility to get protected and you should not complain if the entry is left a bit slippy by your precessor!
Compared to Beverly, I would rate the location as much better, the food as comparable; the action in Beverly is a cosy GFE compared to Ibiza!
Driving back from Munich, I made the detour to Frankfurt and Dorsten. I spent my friday evening going upstair in each Laufhaus in order to get the typical leg-ache that any visitor to the BHV-RLD is familiar to.
Next day I was fit at 5 to noon and paid my 125 euros for the saturday orgy. What an orgy! I can now understand why they have a Roemerforum in Germany. their has probably been nothing to compare since the end of Pompei 2000 years ago.
I used a trick which I discovered on the ISG using a cockring to prevent the flood from flowing out of my working tool. No girl complained about that and I had about 15 sessions; I ended all of them because of completion or exhaustion but never had a girl asking me to hurry up.
The major events were at 4pm and 8pm downstair: after a short solo show, all girls took prey of the men and after the mandatory BBBJ this end up in an incredible mix of leg arm asses ...
For the statistics, there were 12-14 women and 25-30 patrons; more than 8 couples or threesome were busy at anytime on the two mats. The weak link is clearly on showers: only three places;
The girls are incredibly active and show their enthusiasm. The german girls are not the nicest but are the most enthusiast. I would not recommend to go to Dorsten on Sunday as I wonder how they can manage to start again after a 8-hour break.
Reports from off the beaten path are great!
Can't say I'm going to be in Muenchen or Saarbruecken any time soon but now I know what to expect.
Mufu,
What a commitment! I checked your previous reports, and you seemed to have tested nearly each PT in Germany! My only reference is Dorsten so far. I still prefer the FKK scene, as it's more likely to find more, better looking girls and better service than in PT. I admit however that PT as a few things that FKK don't have like the erotic orgy atmosphere (except the unique Bernd's) and that it's comfortable (and cheap) not to take care anymore about money once the entrance is paid. But which PT would you consider to be the best in term of look, quantity and enthusiasm of girls?
Routard
Routard,
I believe Dorsten is a mile ahead for girl's look and enthusiasm.
The second is clearly Wagenfeld's Dolce Vita; the house is much better than Dorsten, girls are nearly as beautiful; the ambiance in the room is not so fantastic but they are more and more switching to public action in the bar with seemingly more enthusiasm; I did not check recently.
The hollanders seem to favour Xanten; I never checked.
Muenster and Sutteshausen have bad press in the german forums but I had good experience in both (may be to the french difference).
Gelsenkirchen, Mettmann and Beverly have the worst looking girls but are aiming at the physical performance.
.. PT Dorsten, Wagenfeld (Dolce Vita), Muenster and Osnabrueck.
My top two are Dorsten and Wagenfeld. I'd do Osnabrueck if I found myself there but I wouldn't go out of my way to get there. I'd not return to Muenster.
PT Mettmann is an acquired taste and I've had fun there but its not for everyone.
Has anyone been to MFZ in Krefeld lately? MFZ = Mitfickzentrale.
Thanks Jackyo and Mufu, looks like my next PT try could be Dolce Vita.
Routard
I'm planning to visit PT dorsten and osnabrueck on early november.
This is my first visit to German.
How much & long to PT dorsten from Frankfurt airport by train?
Is it easy to get PT osnabrueck from PT dorsten by any kind of public transport?
I will visit dorsten on first day and move to osnabrueck next day. I only have 2 days to explore.
Any information will be appreciated. Thanks advance guys!
I'm planning to visit PT dorsten and osnabrueck on early november.
This is my first visit to German.
How much & long to PT dorsten from Frankfurt airport by train?
Is it easy to get PT osnabrueck from PT dorsten by any kind of public transport?
I will visit dorsten on first day and move to osnabrueck next day. I only have 2 days to explore.
Any information will be appreciated. Thanks advance guys!
You need to visit the Deutsche Bahn website.
www.db.de
You will need to transfer several times to get to Dorsten from Frankfurt as there is no direct train line to get there.
You will likely have to transfer at Koeln or Mainz to a train heading to Essen or Oberhausen and then transfer to a local train heading to Dorsten.
The trip will take from 3 to 4 hours. This club is at the city outskirts and you will need to take a cab unless you can figure out how to take the bus to Dorsten-Wuelfen, a Gewerbegebiet in the outskirts of the town. It will be within walking distance of the Landstrasse once you get off the bus (forget the name of the bus station but it is the one before the Schuermann Bushaltestelle).
Getting from Dorsten to Osnabrueck is similarly quite complicated.
You will need to go through Muenster, Essen or Dortmund.
The trip will take from 2 to 3 hours and will get you to the Haupbahnhof. The club is not near a public transport line and you will need to take a cab. The club is off an Autobahnausfahrt, Osnabrueck-Sutthausen, I believe.
If you only have two days and don't have a car this plan is rather ambitious.
Better to stay in Hessen and visit one of the big clubs near there if you have limited time.
I haven't heard of good PT clubs down there, by the way.
If you want to do NRW, better to find a flight which lands in Duesseldorf directly. It will be easier to plan a trip from there to these clubs and it will cut wasted time traveling north.
LTU, a German charter airline, is based in Duesseldorf.
I think I better to rent a car with GPS system.
This must be quicker & faster ways to get those two places.
Anyway thanks for your help...
i think i better to rent a car with gps system.
this must be quicker & faster ways to get those two places.
anyway thanks for your help...
by car is definitely quicker and easier than the train, as usually these clubs are in rural areas and not near major public transportation routes. the best way to get to dorsten from fra is to fly to dussledorf and drive with the rental car from there. alternatively, take the high speed train to cologne, bonn or dusseldorf and then take the car from there.
but if this is your first visit to germany, and you only have 2 days, i would recommend that you initiate yourself into this world of german sex at one or two or three of the fra area fkk clubs. going to one of the rural pt clubs as a total newbie is like trying to boil an egg without breaking its shell. you may luck out, but you'll never be sure until the end when you crack the shell, if it was done just right. better to get some horizontal miles under your towel, getting your psyche into shape before running the last hedonistic leg of the sexual marathon.
the 3 major fra clubs are much easier to get to for a first time germany visitor. palace is no more than 15-20 minutes from the airport and easily accessible by public transportation, and even has a decent hotel in its backyard. oase is no more than a 15 minute ride from there and also accessible via public transportation from fra. world is no more than 20 minutes from there and also accessible via public transportation.
the deutsche bahn website would have all of this detailed info for you
I think I better to rent a car with GPS system.
This must be quicker & faster ways to get those two places.
Anyway thanks for your help...
Newbies (I assume you are an FKK virgin) would do well to do the Frankfurt clubs first before taking the PT plunge.
The Frankfurt clubs are well set up for newbies and tourists.
Of the Frankfurt big three, my personal preference is Oase.
Dick Rambone
10-10-06, 20:09
I went to this club yesterday. Many reports have been written about this club so I will just mention some pros and cons about it. Also how i got there.
Transportation: From Dusseldorf Hbf I took the ICE train to Essen and from there the RE train to Dorsten. From there I took the 208 bus to stop Dorsten Wulfener Markt. The club is about 400 yards from there.
Pros: Good looking young polish girls willing to give their best performance. The food was not bad that day (Turkey, salad, Fries, and cake). The service staff is good at making you comfortable, even though the young Russian girl says she does not speak much English (I thought she did). Decent back yard with Jacuzzi so you can get some fresh air on down times.
Cons: There were around 10 guys for 5 girls; it seemed that if you were not quick or shy you would not get much. I got my four pops as I just went for the girls that were free. I saw other guys waiting a long time to get laid. Small locker rooms and kind of dirty. Some guys took a long time with the girls. One guy was just laying down eating the girls pu**** for a long time. While others waited. I was told that one girl called in sick that day.
Overall it was a good experience but I think I will stick to the FKK's.
I have been to PT Mettman on Saturday, the last day of September. It was my first experience of PT but thanks to the information by the regulars, like Wan King in this forum, it was no sweat. My experience and report might not be much different from others but I post mine as someone's refference.
I arrived in Cologne airport and took train to Dusseldorf. It took abt.30min by ICE. I checked in the Hotel Ibis in the Dusseldorf station building. Then took S28 to Mettman Stadt-Wald, abt.20min on a small train like a tram. The station seems to be the end of the line and has train every 30min till midnight eigher way. There seems no taxi hanging around the MSW, so I decided to walk as it was a nice sunny day. About 15min walk, I found the place. Reached there abt.15:30.
Paid 110 euro at the entrance and changed in the locker room on the ground floor. Already 3-4 men and 3 ladies were there. 2 ladies are exactly same as Wan King had described before! 30min or so, the first gang bang begun in one bed room. I was just watching it by them for a while cuz I don't speak German well and it was my first time in PT. The ladies had processed their job very efficiently and called me in finally. Enjoyed 3sum and finished my first in doggy. They are very professional and do very good job!
The gang bang seems to happen abt every 1 or 1.5h. What was interesting to me was, I saw other guys errected dick and their performance.(So other guys did mine!) I felt ease cuz nobody is a Porn star. Also I saw one swinging couple(old!), and one old guy look like almost 70ys old!! I saw him did twice, so he must have done at least 3 times. It's amazing to me and encouraged for my future too.
After 17:00, food was served which was not so bad. Meat balls, Lazania, Chicken nuggets, Salad and so on. 4 more ladies came in and many more men visiting and out.
I popped 3.5 cum after all. 3rd one, I could not finished, not cuz of the girl, cuz my concentration somehow lost. The last shot was the best of the day with pettite younger girl who speaks English well.
This kind of club may be for mostly for the locals and regulars but it is opened to foreigners. Of course might better speak German to enjoy more. I liked it anyway and hope to visit again and other Pt, like PT Dorsten some day.
DeeJay
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I don't know how much experience you have had visiting PTs or FKK clubs but Mettmann is in a class on its own.
Yes, they are friendly and will take care of you even if you don't speak German.
The women are serviceable even if they aren't beauty queens.
I don't know how much experience you have had visiting PTs or FKK clubs but Mettmann is in a class on its own.
Yes, they are friendly and will take care of you even if you don't speak German.
The women are serviceable even if they aren't beauty queens.Thank you for your comment Jackyo.
I have been to FKK in Frankfurt area 5-7 times like Oase and Palace(was Paradiso before, wasn't it). I like FKK too. PT Mettman was my first experience of PT club. As many said, both have completely different concept of operation, I think. PT might not be for every one, especially mongering begginers. If I had not enough information, I was hesitated to visit PT. May be FKK either.
In either place or any girls, I believe there should be good day and bad day, lucky encounter and unlucky encounter. Just try and error and learn. Of course exchanging informations here would lower the error ratio. Only 100% matter I keep in mind is safe sex.
Cheers,
DeeJay
I don't think I can get search to work for this. What are the rules about in and out privileges at the different partytreff clubs like Dorsten, Osnabruck, Dolce Vita? Can I leave to check in at a hotel, or to get dinner and then return? How about at the FKKs like GoldenTime, Ying Yang, and Heavens Gate?
Tia,
AbleGray
I don't think I can get search to work for this. What are the rules about in and out privileges at the different partytreff clubs like Dorsten, Osnabruck, Dolce Vita? Can I leave to check in at a hotel, or to get dinner and then return? How about at the FKKs like GoldenTime, Ying Yang, and Heavens Gate?
Tia,
AbleGray
Are you referring to Dolce Vita in Wagenfeld (the PT) or Dolce Vita in Duesseldorf which is an FKK club?
The PTs have food (though not always very good) so as a rule if you leave and return you have to pay an entrance fee again. Leaving to get food isn't a good excuse.
When I visit I check into my hotel first (usually about noon), get the key and then go to the club. That way I can return late at night, go directly to bed and not have to wake anyone up.
The only FKK club I know which openly says you can pay the entrance fee once and come and go as you please is Blue Note.
Hi guys,
At first thanx for valueable reports.I visited a lot of place mentioned reports and see all written on that reports are correct and all of them for me usefull for my visitings.
My favorite places is beverly and I m an addicted to go Beverly guys:)
I visit the beverly every year and for this year visiting date is 7-11 nov:)
Please inform me if there will be any person from this forum community 7-11 nov.
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Greetings and thnx for responses. :)
I believe Dorsten is a mile ahead for girl's look and enthusiasm.
The second is clearly Wagenfeld's Dolce Vita; the house is much better than Dorsten, girls are nearly as beautiful; the ambiance in the room is not so fantastic but they are more and more switching to public action in the bar with seemingly more enthusiasm; I did not check recently.I'm new here (have read a few reports recently, and registered today), but have lived in Germany for more than 23 years (yes, the sex scene was one reason to move here) and am quite familiar with prostitution here.
At my last visit to a club (Dorsten), I came 13 times. Thus, I am interested in the all-inclusive clubs which usually go by the name Partytreff.
What I want is a club where there are a) many girls be) who are naked all the time and where I can have anal and/or CIM and, of course, as much sex and food and drink as possible all included in the price, which should not be more than EUR 130 at most. (I have been to the FKK club in Dietzenbach 3 times. Service is OK and I like the fact that the girls are naked, but it is too expensive, at least if one comes 13 times. Although one can go to a public sauna here and see many more naked girls than in an FKK club, I still prefer them to be naked in the club---a) it's nicer, be) I think it is silly to be nude with the customer then get dressed again etc and see) there IS a BIG difference between nude girls in a public sauna and a nude girl whom I can fuck if I want. Besides the price, another reason to look elsewhere is that anal and CIM are rare at most FKK clubs and tend to cost even more.)
I have been to Partytreff Westerwald twice. Service was fine, but there are only three girls there, not nude (except in the rooms). I had CIM once (with Carmen, who is no longer there) but no anal yet. However, a few months ago Julia started working there, and she apparently does anal and CIM.
I was in Dorsten back in the summer and can recommend it. Good value for the money and lots of nice girls, all who do BBBJ. It's not FKK, but there was so much action they were essentially nude all the time anyway. There was supposed to be a girl there to do anal, Martha, but she wasn't there when I arrived. I did manage CIM once.
So, my plan was to go to Partytreff Westerwald in Merkelbach when Julia is there for CIM and anal, then go to Dorsten on a Saturday and be overwhelmed, then go to FKK Aplerbek (seems to be the cheapest of the Ruhrgebiet FKK clubs) for some nudity. However, it would be nice to have everything all at once: fixed, all-inclusive price, nude girls, CIM and anal and many girls.
Looking at the web pages for Dolce Vita and Osnabrúck, it seems that the former fits my bill. The web page advertises FKK every Sunday and also anal as well as CIM. There are apparently many girls there and of course it is an all-inclusive price. (There might be less group action there than in Dorsten, but that doesn't matter to me one way or the other.) However, on the phone the FKK every Sunday was confirmed, but it seems that it is only topless "for hygienic reasons" (which makes little sense: at FKK clubs full nudity is the norm and one can sit on a towel). Also, there are only 6--8 girls there on Sunday and he couldn't GUARANTEE anal and CIM.
Osnabrück advertises anal and CIM. On the telephone, I was told that FKK day is Friday. Apparently only 6--8 girls except on Saturday. Osnabrück has the advantage for me that FKK is on a cheaper day, though weekend would be more convenient. (Actually, 6--8 girls is enough if it is not too crowded). The web pages also seem to be more honest about anal and CIM, saying that one should ask first when the corresponding girls are there, and I like the idea of the red armbands.
So, where should I go? Has anyone been to Dolce Vita (best would be on a Sunday), Osnabrück (best would be on a Friday) and Dorsten and can give a detailed comparison?
I was thinking about Mettmann for a while, since apparently anal and CIM are guaranteed there Thursday and Saturday, while Saturday also has more women, but a) one can't stay all day for the normal price and be) there is no FKK. (Also, in general it seems the women aren't as good.)
What I want is a club where there are a) many girls be) who are naked all the time and where I can have anal and/or CIM and, of course, as much sex and food and drink as possible all included in the price, which should not be more than EUR 130 at most.
However, it would be nice to have everything all at once: fixed, all-inclusive price, nude girls, CIM and anal and many girls.
Looking at the web pages for Dolce Vita and Osnabrúck, it seems that the former fits my bill. (There might be less group action there than in Dorsten, but that doesn't matter to me one way or the other.)
Osnabrück advertises anal and CIM. On the telephone, I was told that FKK day is Friday. Apparently only 6--8 girls except on Saturday. Osnabrück has the advantage for me that FKK is on a cheaper day, though weekend would be more convenient. (Actually, 6--8 girls is enough if it is not too crowded). The web pages also seem to be more honest about anal and CIM, saying that one should ask first when the corresponding girls are there, and I like the idea of the red armbands.
So, where should I go? Has anyone been to Dolce Vita (best would be on a Sunday), Osnabrück (best would be on a Friday) and Dorsten and can give a detailed comparison?
I was thinking about Mettmann for a while... (Also, in general it seems the women aren't as good.)
I have been to five PTs: Mettmann, Osnabrueck, Muenster, Dorsten and Dolce Vita in Wagenfeld.
The women are not nude 100% at any of them. They are in and out of their clothes a lot so they may as well be nude. I read with interest your comment that they have set aside an FKK day at Osnabrueck but the women there aren't up to Dorsten quality-wise.
All offer all-inclusive pricing but only at Dorsten, Mettmann and DV in Wagenfeld do they really keep to their word of all the sex you want for as long as you want with whoever you want for as often as you want.
The only one which offered CIM as standard was Mettmann.
The only club which offered anal as standard was Osnabrueck but only certain girls offered it (the ones with red arm bands).
If you define "many" as at least eight women, Mettmann on weekends, Dorsten and Dolce Vita (both at any time), qualify.
Food and drink are best at Mettmann, Osnabrueck and Dorsten. At the other clubs, its just belegtes Brot.
There is a lot of group activity at DV. When things are slow, the girls take all of the guys either out to the large round bed in the middle of the Saunabereich or into the living room with the TV, pick partners and do all of the guys at once.
The only other club where equivalent group stuff happens is Mettmann. Talk about casual: you find an open hole and you can stuff it without saying a word to the owner of the hole.
Osnabrueck has a gigantic Spielwiese upstairs but couples make out on it, not groups. You pick your partner downstairs and you both go upstairs. There are small semi-private rooms also as an option.
At Dorsten two girls on one is the norm. Everyone is on the same bed but the women only interact with one guy at a time.
Fazit: my top two PTs are Dorsten and DV.
I give DV points for being more relaxed. Picture sitting outside in the summer with totally nude women sunning themselves and their bright pink parts. Every now and then they stand up and ask the guys if they wanted any.
It is possible at DV to pick the girl you have had the most fun with and take her into a semi-private room (the rooms don't have doors). I got along well with Suzie there and I would do her multiple times every time I visited - we were comfortable with each other and she would look for me when things were slow just to hang out with.
The Ambiente at Dorsten is a little more hectic. The girls seem more in a hurry here and the owner doesn't tolerate much downtime.
Mettmann is an acquired taste. Go as much for the banter and the interaction with women as the sex. They have a 100% German Besatzung which works out well for me since my Russian, Polish, etc.. is non-existent. I like to talk to my partner and I can't do that if she can't understand me. I give them points for friendliness. If you only speak English look for Akasha. She speaks English with a "vedy British" accent.
Muenster kannst du vergessen. I have a review of it somewhere on this thread.
Osnabrueck I'd rank about Muenster but I'd not go out of my way to visit it.
I can't speak for the PTs in Hessen or elsewhere, unfortunately.
I have been to five PTs: Mettmann, Osnabrueck, Muenster, Dorsten and Dolce Vita in Wagenfeld.That's a good start!
The women are not nude 100% at any of them. They are in and out of their clothes a lot so they may as well be nude. I read with interest your comment that they have set aside an FKK day at Osnabrueck but the women there aren't up to Dorsten quality-wise.At Dorsten, as I said there was so much action that, at least in the rooms, there were always lots of nude girls around. I would prefer it, though, if they would be nude downstairs as well, when eating etc. I was there in the summer, so some were occasionally sunning themselves nude outside.
After I had come 12 times (most of the time with two girls), I relaxed in the Jacuzzi about an hour before closing time. Claudia (Schiffer) came by, stripped, put her hair up in a towel and climbed in. (I had had her, together with another girl, in my second session, but I fucked the other girls and Claudia only provided some additional stimulation.) We chatted for about 15 minutes (she speaks German well and I am fluent); it was really nice sitting there with my arm around her. Then she asked if we would like to go upstairs. I said yes, of course. Since I had already come 12 times, she could sucked my dick for about 10 minutes with no danger of coming. Then we fucked and I came after about 5 minutes. What a way to end a day!
Still, more nudity (and some anal) would have been nice. (I had CIM once with a girl who was alone with me in the gazebo outside; we did 69 for a while (me on top) then I turned around and had her open her mouth and I filled her up porno-film style. This was only the third time I had come on that day, so there was a fair amount of sperm. She swallowed! I don't remember her name, but she was not one of the better looking ones.)
Note that according to both web pages and telephone, there is FKK day at both Osnabrúck and Dolce Vita in Wagenfeld. Perhaps someone has been to one of these clubs on the FKK day.
There used to be an FKK day at Merkelbach, but they discontinued it. They now have (among other motto parties) topless and bottomless (but not on the same day). They also have a day for anal, Natursekt, CIM etc but apparently Julia will do anal and CIM any day she is there. As I said, Merkelbach is just three girls, but it is OK.
All offer all-inclusive pricing but only at Dorsten, Mettmann and DV in Wagenfeld do they really keep to their word of all the sex you want for as long as you want with whoever you want for as often as you want. OK, that jibes with other information here that Münster and Osnabrück are not in the same league.
The only one which offered CIM as standard was Mettmann. Osnabrück and DV advertise this on their web pages. Not as standard, but that at least on some days there are girls there who will do it.
The only club which offered anal as standard was Osnabrueck but only certain girls offered it (the ones with red arm bands). Mettmann advertises it, at least for Thursdays, and apparently on Saturdays one can count on it as well.
If you define "many" as at least eight women, Mettmann on weekends, Dorsten and Dolce Vita (both at any time), qualify. OK, though 12--15 (like Dorsten on Saturday) is better.
At Dorsten two girls on one is the norm. Everyone is on the same bed but the women only interact with one guy at a time.
Fazit: my top two PTs are Dorsten and DV. That seems to jibe with other reports here. According to the web pages, however, anal and CIM are more or less standard at DV (and Osnabrück) and there is even an FKK day there. If this is all true, I could live with worse food and slightly worse girls.
Muenster kannst du vergessen. I have a review of it somewhere on this thread.
Osnabrueck I'd rank about Muenster but I'd not go out of my way to visit it. I guess you mean "above Münster".
I can't speak for the PTs in Hessen or elsewhere, unfortunately. I don't think there are any worth visiting in Hessen.
OK, I've got it narrowed down to Dorsten and Dolce Vita in Wagenfeld, with Mettmann as a possible wild card. (If I can't get anal at Dorsten or Dolce Vita, I'll go one last time to Merkelbach when Julia is there and stock up. She also does CIM. I enjoy this, but since my wife does this regularly (and swallows), I don't particularly need this. (I am happily married, but she is travelling at the moment.) At DV it isn't completely clear whether one can get anal (or CIM). Even though it is otherwise not as good, I would rather go to Merkelbach and get both with no stress. (I've been there before and had CIM with a woman who is no longer there, but no anal yet. I've had anal at a brothel in the Netherlands and at a swinger club in England.))
I'll definitely go back to Dorsten, but I might go to Wagenfeld first. It depends on if I can count on getting anal (and CIM) and, if I go on Sunday, how naked the girls are (Sunday is supposed to be FKK day). In Dorsten, almost all the girls are young Polish girls. Almost all of them shave completely. If I recall correctly, Claudia, as well as the two (somewhat older) German girls (one is named Niki and the other works with her---they aren't as pretty or as young but they are the best) had a "landing strip". (Claudia also didn't shave her legs, but she had thin blonde hairs so it was hardly noticeable.)
Nationality or shaving wouldn't tip my decision one way or the other, but I am curious as to what to expect. I have no preference with regard to nationality. With regard to shaving, I prefer a completely shaved pussy or hair above and completely shaved below but absolutely no shaving elsewhere (underarms, legs etc). Or absolutely no shaving anywhere. (This used to be standard in Germany but is rare now, at least among girls at Partytreffs.)
What about Mettmann? What is the nationality? Where do the women shave? Same questions for Dolce Vita in Wagenfeld.
I have been to five PTs: Mettmann, Osnabrueck, Muenster, Dorsten and Dolce Vita in Wagenfeld.
The women are not nude 100% at any of them. They are in and out of their clothes a lot so they may as well be nude. I read with interest your comment that they have set aside an FKK day at Osnabrueck but the women there aren't up to Dorsten quality-wise.
All offer all-inclusive pricing but only at Dorsten, Mettmann and DV in Wagenfeld do they really keep to their word of all the sex you want for as long as you want with whoever you want for as often as you want.
The only one which offered CIM as standard was Mettmann.
The only club which offered anal as standard was Osnabrueck but only certain girls offered it (the ones with red arm bands).
If you define "many" as at least eight women, Mettmann on weekends, Dorsten and Dolce Vita (both at any time), qualify.
Food and drink are best at Mettmann, Osnabrueck and Dorsten. At the other clubs, its just belegtes Brot.After talking on the phone, at Dolce Vita it appears that on the "FKK day" (Sunday), the girls are actually just topless. At Osnabrück, apparently they really are completely naked all the time on the FKK day (Friday) and even today (offically topless day) apparently some are naked and most are at least topless.
It would be really interesting to hear from someone who has been to Dolce Vita in Wagenfeld on a Sunday, or to Osnabrück on a Friday or Sunday.
The woman on the telephone at Osnabrück seems friendlier than the guy at Wagenfeld. Also, at Osnabrück it's apparently easier to see who does anal and CIM due to the red armband. At both places, there is apparently no guarantee, but at Osnabrúck if one rings the day before one can be told yes or no. At Wagenfeld it seems more a matter of luck, though I get the impression that on Saturday it is practically guaranteed.
Who has been to Wagenfeld or Osnabrück on a Saturday?
Thus, on the telephone Osnabrück seems to be comparable to Wagenfeld, they are friendlier and you say the food is better. Thus, I'm interested in the exact reasons you don't rate it as high as Wagenfeld or Dorsten.
Also, Osnabrück seems to advertise that it is pay once, do all you want just like at Wagenfeld and Dorsten. You say that's not the case (and is not the case at Múnster either). How is a guest prevented from having too much action?
At my last visit to a club (Dorsten), I came 13 times.That's scary! Even a man with my nickname would feel inferior. Please, at least, tell me that you use Viagra:D
The Ambiente at Dorsten is a little more hectic. The girls seem more in a hurry here and the owner doesn't tolerate much downtime.Glad you brought that up. To be really up to date, and I mean really, you have to visit the club of choice once a week, because things can change fast.
It wasn’t long ago since my very first visit to Dorsten, but I still have managed to be visit some more times (and as Wan King has indicated, the novelty soon wears off after the first time). I don’t know what the owner tolerates, but my guess is that it is the manager that enforces the work morale. When this guy (who I think you are referring to) was in charge, like at my premiere visit, the girls worked their asses of, and everything was fine for us, the paying guests. Sadly, I haven’t seen him since. There have been female managers attending. The “worst” is a young blonde, more sweet than hot. You can be happy if the girls work 30 minutes on the hour when she is in charge. OK, that’s not fair. Some of the girls work hard, and if you have visited you probably can guess who they might be. It can happen that 10 guys are waiting for their turn but the two girls still choose to tag team on one guy. Not really a problem, I say though. Better this than excessive breaks downstairs, and one of these day you just might be that guy, instead of one of the 10 waiting in line.
The problem starts when some girls spends 15 minutes in the changing room, and then 15 minutes downstairs drinking coffee… repeatedly. On my second visit I didn’t get it at first. Not until I wanted to do one of the youngest and prettiest, and started tracking her whereabouts to see why it seemed impossible to do her. Dorsten was crowded (when is it not:)), but she stayed one hour with a guy that was limp as a wet rag, at least when I watched. Then she went for a break, which is fine even if she hadn’t fucked that much that past hour. After 30 minutes she came back upstairs. With the same guy! Now they were together for 20 minutes before she went downstairs for a break again. Now I was so upset that I gave up and stopped tracking her. But the pattern was there for most of the girls: With female managers, the girls spend far less time actually working. Dorsten is great value for money, but for myself, I probably will turn at the door if this female manager is in charge upon my next visit.
That's scary! Even a man with my nickname would feel inferior. Please, at least, tell me that you use Viagra:DThat's pretty good for one day. My five day sexfest holiday last year between FKK World and FKK Oase, I sessioned with 35 wonderful women. Ten the first day, eight the second with another eight the third day, six on the fourth day and three my last day. Met up with Cordellia my last evening at World and she can testify that I was plum tuckered out. Looking to better my previous set goals this year between Nov 19th and 24th, between Bernds, Oase and World. When I came home, I didn't think about pussy for at least two weeks, which normally is an every 5 second thought. Cordellia, if you read this, are you going to be around between the 19th and 24th of November? Please say yes, and make it the 19th.
Nash
thus, on the telephone osnabrück seems to be comparable to wagenfeld, they are friendlier and you say the food is better. thus, i'm interested in the exact reasons you don't rate it as high as wagenfeld or dorsten.
also, osnabrück seems to advertise that it is pay once, do all you want just like at wagenfeld and dorsten. you say that's not the case (and is not the case at múnster either). how is a guest prevented from having too much action?
at dorsten and at wagenfeld if there are eight women there i do each one at least once and then i return to my favorites and do her a couple of times during a ten or twelve hour stay. my record is fourteen sessions... but in contrast to you, i cannot come fourteen times. some of those sessions were just poking sessions where i kind of just enjoyed the skin on skin contact and her warmth wrapped around me.
at osnabrueck and at muenster you get the feeling they are parceling it out. there are fewer women. there is also a lot of the sitting around and romancing you need to do in the kontaktzimmer before you take her upstairs (osnabrueck) or downstairs (muenster). my productivity is nowhere near my productivity at dorsten and wagenfeld because of this plus the fact that quality-wise i didn't find the women appealing. at muenster they had women who looked like hobbyhuren (not my thing) or with too many tatoos and piercings (also not my thing).
among my other pet peeves: unusually dyed hair, braided hair (two rumanien women at osnabrueck had rasta braids) and women who don't have the right curves (small chests, z. b.).
at dorsten and wagenfeld the women are more open and would make it a point to meet every customer. they will approach you at these two clubs to meet you if you are just sitting there.
at osnabrueck and muenster they tended to hang out with regulars and didn't feel obligated to meet all of the customers.
What about Mettmann? What is the nationality? Where do the women shave? Same questions for Dolce Vita in Wagenfeld.
Mettmann has a 100% German team. DV and Dorsten mostly have Polish women.
Most of the women at all three are the way I like them: either completely smooth or with thin landing strips.
I'm searching my memory banks for any unusual shaving patterns at any of these clubs but can't come up with any.
I am not into anal and have never made a decision to visit a club based on whether it was offered or not. Sorry. The only anal I've seen offered has been at Osnabrueck.
Mettmann has theme parties including Natursekt, etc... I'm not into that either.
Mettmann has a very stable Besatzung and after going to visit a couple of times I think I've met most of the women who work there.
Again: it is an acquired taste. You will either say it was a great experience or come back and complain. I am inclined towards the first reaction myself because I like their openness, the funny and amusing interactions and their friendliness.
The guy behind the counter at Wagenfeld is a younger dude who is quite distant and very professional but is actually okay. What he doesn't like is: sitting in the eating area without a towel wrapped around you, feet up on the tables, drinks in the living room area.
At Mettmann, there are no drinks allowed in the bedroom areas either.
If you follow these rules you should be fine.
Wagenfeld has an indoor pool which is cool if you can find one of the women you like and you can kind of fool around in the water (I don't think they'd be happy if you ejaculated in the pool though).
Wagenfeld has an outdoor area to get some sun plus two small huts with Spielwiesen (lots of activity here in the summer).
Mettmann has a small terrace but that is about it. I've never seen action outside here though.
I've not really been outside in the garden at Dorsten but it exists and there is an outdoor whirlpool.
Xavier Yves
10-30-06, 21:18
At Dorsten and Wagenfeld the women are more open and would make it a point to meet every customer. They will approach you at these two clubs to meet you if you are just sitting there.
At Osnabrueck and Muenster they tended to hang out with regulars and didn't feel obligated to meet all of the customers..
that's kind of true. I say 'kind of' because new girls at Dorsten are exceptions. They do the sessions very slow, more than half an hour for one guy and then go downstairs to rest. And they don't treat everybody same. They prefer the guys who like talking to them because it can slow down the session. It happened two times in this case. Well, the good thing is the girls can improve after Dorsten's boss push them.
Xavier Yves
10-30-06, 21:30
[QUOTE=Svenfkk]It would be really interesting to hear from someone who has been to Dolce Vita in Wagenfeld on a Sunday, or to Osnabrück on a Friday or Sunday.QUOTE]
me too!
I cann't find the website for DC in Wagenfeld. Some infos like
Sonntag von 12.00 Uhr - 01.00 Uhr (120 Euro)
Sonntags immer FKK-Party mit Brunch!
Why they also charge 120 Euros on Sunday? What can the difference be on Sunday from other days?
That's scary! Even a man with my nickname would feel inferior. Please, at least, tell me that you use Viagra:DAre you aware that there is a real German name, Eberhard?
No, no viagra. I've essentially always had a girlfriend for the last 20 years or so (I'm 41) and sex once or twice a day is normal. (I visit a club only when my wife is away for a longer period.) I do live healthily, though, no tobacco, alcohol, drugs etc, enough exercise, health-store food etc.
Seems to be paying off. :-)
It would be really interesting to hear from someone who has been to Dolce Vita in Wagenfeld on a Sunday, or to Osnabrück on a Friday or Sunday.Me too!
I cann't find the website for DC in Wagenfeld. Some infos like.
Sonntag von 12.00 Uhr - 01.00 Uhr (120 Euro)
Sonntags immer FKK-Party mit Brunch!
Why they also charge 120 Euros on Sunday? What can the difference be on Sunday from other days?I was hoping it was because of FKK; if done properly, I would pay more.
Maybe it is supply and demand: more people have time on Sunday than during the week.
I was hoping it was because of FKK; if done properly, I would pay more.
Maybe it is supply and demand: more people have time on Sunday than during the week.
... on Sundays because they promise more women present.
I can't remember the days I've been there. I have notes somewhere but can't find them.
I just know that I've never been there on a Saturday.
Xavier Yves
10-31-06, 20:44
... on Sundays because they promise more women present.
I can't remember the days I've been there. I have notes somewhere but can't find them.
I just know that I've never been there on a Saturday.
this is more logical explaination. I cann't imagin we have to pay 20 euros more simpley because we can see some naked girls :)
I cann't find the website for DC in Wagenfeld.
is at http://www.club-dolcevita.de
is at http://www.club-dolcevita.de
Its a real fuckin pity that Dolce Vita is so far off the beaten track in terms of Public transport. The fact that you get semi private one on one action makes it seem interesting forsure.
OK, I've got it narrowed down to Dorsten or Wagenfeld.
I've had lots of sex at lots of different venues in many countries, and for a while thought that (relatively inexpensive) FKK clubs in Germany was the best it could get. I then found the Partytreff in Merkelbach and went there a couple of times. It is OK, but not ideal: too few girls is the main reason to go elsewhere. Actually, I was alerted to Mettmann and Dorsten from the guest book for Merkelbach (run by the club itself), and after some research soon ran into Wagen
Feld, Osnabrück and Múnster.
There seems to be general agreement to forget Münster. Osnabrück gets only slightly better reviews, but I'll keep it as a wildcard in case there really is a true FKK day on Sundays. Mettmann likewise is a wildcard, since it seems a bit different (and, as I've mentioned, has some disadvantages to me) and Merkelbach as well.
Thus, it's down to Dorsten or Wagenfeld for the next visit.
I've been to Dorsten once before and will post a report soon.
I like Dorsten and can't wait to get back. However, I am tending towards Wagenfeld for the next visit: it is something new, and CIM and anal might be easier there on a Saturday night. On the other hand, I know that I will be happy with Dorsten. (Also, it is a bit closer.)
I would like to hear from as many people as possible who have been to both how they compare and which they prefer and why.
I will be in Frankfurt later this month. Are there any PT clubs near by? I wont be able to make it to the PT Club Dorsten (Near Dusseldorf) till February.
I will be in Frankfurt later this month. Are there any PT clubs near by? I wont be able to make it to the PT Club Dorsten (Near Dusseldorf) till February.
.. there is discussion of activity in Frankfurt.
The general consensus is that it isn't comparable to what you find in NRW.
Has anyone been to the Partytreff in Hildesheim?
How does it compare to Dorsten and Wagenfeld?
I will be in Frankfurt later this month. Are there any PT clubs near by? I wont be able to make it to the PT Club Dorsten (Near Dusseldorf) till February.What about club-candy in Russelheim near Frankfurt Airport?
What about club-candy in Russelheim near Frankfurt Airport? I have been there a few years ago. It is a typical männerüberschuss swinger club, meaning that it is paid for by men who pay a relatively large entrance fee in the hope of getting something, while couples and single women pay little or nothing.
I was there on the FKK day, and everyone was nude all the timeI
I had two orgasms. Once when the owner (it is owned by a couple; I'm talking about the female half here) sucked me (and I came in her mouth) while being fucked by someone else and once I fucked another woman who was obviously hired help.
For the same amount of money I could get much more elsewhere.
If you are a couple into männerüberschuss (I. E. Many more men than women), then this is the place for you. Single guys can get much more action elsewhere for the same price or even less.
Has any been to Beverly recently?
Is it worth the trip or is Dortsen a better choice to experiance the PT scene?
Thanks
Visual
Has any been to Beverly recently?
Is it worth the trip or is Dortsen a better choice to experiance the PT scene?
Thanks
Visual
...are 2 very different experiences. Dorsten is a party treff and every day of the week is more or less the same menu. Beverly is a swinger club and partytreff so some nights there will be swingers as well as hired women on some nights and weekend or holiday nights just swingers. Also each day of the week has a different motto.
If you're out to get a "pure" party treff experience, Dorsten or Mettman will do it for you.
I was at Beverly last week, because I like the swinger club vibe and the opportunity to interact and get it on with non-pros. It's not for all tastes and requires a different level of skills so if you've never been to a "sex in public" club, it's probably not a good idea to start there.
@ Visual:
I've been both to Beverly and PT Dorsten (very) recently, and think I can give you some impressions.
I found Beverly (on a Friday) rather disappointing and generally not worth the visit. The 'College Girl' party at PT Dorsten on the other hand was just amazing and it frankly blew me away - roughly a million times(*) better than Beverly, and simply one of the best pay sex experiences since quite a while...
More detailled reports will follow as soon as I have more time at hands.
@ Iseeu:
When amateur and non-pro women are not available, for what ever reason, then Beverly can be rather disappointing for single men. It should also be mentioned that your mileage will vary *a lot* when it comes to the look, age, attitude and attractiveness of many of the girls. And the (rather few) young and attrative couples didn't seem to be willing to share at all with single guys - at least not during that evening.
I agree that Beverly *can* be fun for couples, but after my first visit I have very little reason to believe that this is also true for single guys - at least not in a consistent and reliable way. And for my taste, the hired girls are not a real option - but I'm probably spoiled...
There are just much better alternatives on the market for the single guys.
* Only a slight exaggeration... ;)
I've also been to both Beverly (often) and PT Dorsten (very recently). I'd have to agree with Iseeu, in that the two are quite different kinds of experience.
At Dorsten (stating the obvious) all the men are customers, all the women are paid. That creates a certain atmosphere and while the sex is good there, it does contrast with Beverly and other swingers clubs. At Dorsten, on the occasion I was there on a Saturday the girls serviced customers individually, because while the rooms are communal, the action was either one-on-one or two (girls) on-one (joe). "Joining in" was certainly not encouraged, and I'd doubt if it would be tollerated. I found that "waiting in line" feeling a little bit off-putting.
At Beverly, "joining in" is a central part of the scene, and as a single guy I've always found plenty of action there. I've certainly found, though, that you benefit as you make more visits, and contacts there.
I think if you compared Beverly and PT Dorsten based on a bang-per-buck rating, Dorsten would win, hands down. But, personally, I prefer the scene at Bev.
I just realised in writing this, that I've been visiting Beverly in Solingen for getting on for seven years, and even though I've visited other places too, I've yet to tire of it.
When amateur and non-pro women are not available, for what ever reason, then Beverly can be rather disappointing for single men. It should also be mentioned that your mileage will vary *a lot* when it comes to the look, age, attitude and attractiveness of many of the girls. And the (rather few) young and attrative couples didn't seem to be willing to share at all with single guys - at least not during that evening.
Well obviously YMMV at a club like Beverly and as stated many times, the Beverly scene is not everyone's cup of tea. As Harvey wrote, your experience there changes as you come back more often and make more contacts, and become more familiar.
If I understand correctly from your post, your only visit was on a Friday night, and as has been documented here, that is the most difficult night for a single guy to connect with couples. The quieter nights like Monday, and Wednesday when it is easier to buld up a rapport with the couples and when single men can join the action in the 2nd floor are better.
Of course, it depends on your people skills, on how you work the room, on the comfort level that you project to the couples there.
I agree that Beverly *can* be fun for couples, but after my first visit I have very little reason to believe that this is also true for single guys - at least not in a consistent and reliable way. And for my taste, the hired girls are not a real option - but I'm probably spoiled...
There are just much better alternatives on the market for the single guys.
Joining in on the action with real amateurs, who are there for the thrill and enjoyment and even the passion of raunchy anonymous sex, and looking for their own pleasure and gratification, is a real turn on and very different from joining in on the action at a PT where the woman are pros and being paid to line you up with others and get you off in a quick and efficient manner.
I like to mix it up so I sometimes like the PT scene and I think that Dorsten is great for that, and sometimes I like the FKK scene, and I sometimes like the Swingerclub scene. The variety of experiences available in Germany is what makes it such a unique monger destination. SO much sex out there and so little time....
Your opinion is valuable and your conclusions may be valid for yourself, but your data is skewed if it is based on a solitary visit and probably should be built on a bigger base of experience before giving advice to others.
Bottom line is dorsten is budget "max fuck per buck" while Beverly is a proper swingers club with some hired in women, to service the guys who cant get it off the wives.
go to Dorsten and have 5 sessions with 2 women in each session and it works out at a tenner a girl. Could it be any cheaper anywhere else in europe??? I rest my case...
Bottom line is dorsten is budget "max fuck per buck" while Beverly is a proper swingers club with some hired in women, to service the guys who can't get it off the wives.
Go to Dorsten and have 5 sessions with 2 women in each session and it works out at a tenner a girl. Could it be any cheaper anywhere else in europe? I rest my case. Maybe slightly cheaper somewhere in the East, I don't know. But certainly not better, and Dorsten certainly has the best price/performance ratio.
I'll post a full report when I have time, and also one on Partytreff Osnabrúck. I might go to Dolce Vita in Wagenfeld soon.
Just a brief note: I had 10 orgasms last Friday in Osnabrúck, 5 of them with Marion (short-haired older girl who used to work in Wagenfeld, so she told me): one vaginal (with her on top providing a lot of action), one anal (from behind) and three in her mouth. My first orgasm of the day was CIM with her (I knew she would do it since she had a red armband on). After two other girls I came back to her. We had anal sex first then after spending several minutes talking and cuddling, I was planning on vaginal but her oral preparation was so good I let her continue until I came. Later on it was vaginal sex (after oral preparation) then again after talking for several minutes and some massage she said she should be moving on if she's not doing anything. I asked if she could stay if she got back in action, and she said of course. I then asked for another blow job. This was my 10th orgasm of the night so I just relaxed and let her suck me until she got the last drop out.
All 5 times, not just for the blow jobs (full CIM) but also in preparation for anal and vaginal sex, she started out by licking my balls for several minutes. She then proceeded to lick my asshole, shoving her tongue up my ass, for another 5--10 minutes, before moving on to my dick.
Quite simply, this is the horniest girl I have ever met in my life. She was also the girl with the most action on this day, probably spending 8 of the 15 hours with a dick inside one of her holes (sometimes more than one dick at once, in various holes). She seems to really enjoy it.
Bottom line: for reasons I'll mention in my reports, I'm looking forward to going back to Dorsten, but I highly recommend going to Osnabrúck and having a few orgasms with Marion. Go on a day when a) she is there and be) it is not too full.
I was there on Friday, which was FKK day. Two girls had VERY transparent very small skirts on (coarse weave), but the other 5 were totally nude except for shoes (sometimes quite high boots). I DO prefer nude women, not just in a brothel but everywhere, but since there are many opportunities for nudity elsewhere in Europe, I don't think it's worth seeking it out if it means giving up something else. (In other words, if all things were equal, I would prefer nudity, but all things never are, so this is not really a criteria for choosing where to go. Ditto for anal sex: if it's available I might like it once or twice as a variation, but it's not worth seeking it out. Obviously, it's much more of a difference for the girl than for they guy. Of course, I do recommend Marion here.)
Hey S,
Short haired older, you said. What hair color? How tall was she? What was her figure like?
Was she German?
Just curious.
My PT Osnabrueck experience was okay but as I think I've mentioned, it wasn't the best PT experience I've ever had.
Later,
Hi guys,
I ve been beverly at 7/11 and PT dorsten at 8/11-10/11.Beverly totaly dissapointing for me in tuesday evening.There is less fucking action and opportunity.Only paid women there was there for single man fucking action.
I ve been several times in Beverly and this time was the worst.I think Beverly stuff seems themselves that clients are quarantied there is nothing have to do for clients satisfaction anymore.
Because of this for other days I decided to try dorsten which is 100 km away my hotel (beverly was 1 km away my hotel meanwhile:))I have to say that Dorsten is perfect place for fuckers and worth for every penny and driving times to go there and getting this marginal experience.
There was 9 women which are all good body shape, have much enthuasizm for sex and client satisfaction.
Thanks for early reports about dorsten which guided to me this unbeliveble experince.
All 5 times, not just for the blow jobs (full CIM) but also in preparation for anal and vaginal sex, she started out by licking my balls for several minutes. She then proceeded to lick my asshole, shoving her tongue up my ass, for another 5--10 minutes, before moving on to my dick
FUCKIN YEAH :D :D :D
Nice to see girls in Osnabrúck do more than those in Dorsten.
For the record Dorsten girls dont do Anal, CIM or lick a guys asshole!!! (of course u can lick their assholes)
Xavier Yves
11-14-06, 20:20
FUCKIN YEAH :D :D :D
Nice to see girls in Osnabrúck do more than those in Dorsten.
For the record Dorsten girls dont do Anal, CIM or lick a guys asshole!!! (of course u can lick their assholes)
I have to say lick asshole and CIM with group sex like partytreff style make hygiene very bad, isn't it
... This was my 10th orgasm of the night so I just relaxed and let her suck me ....
Dude, you must be a fucking mutant. Think I was sixteen when I last was able to pull 10 orgasms in a night and even then my dick would turn purple.
Chivaz
Hey S,
Short haired older, you said. What hair color? How tall was she? What was her figure like?
Was she German?
Just curious.
My PT Osnabrueck experience was okay but as I think I've mentioned, it wasn't the best PT experience I've ever had.
Later,She was German. I wouuld guess 40 to 50 years old. Dark brown hair. Normal height (165 cm or so). Thin, small tits. Completely shaved. Big pussy lips.
But just ask for Marion. :-)
Dude, you must be a fucking mutant. Think I was sixteen when I last was able to pull 10 orgasms in a night and even then my dick would turn purple.
ChivazI had 13 in Dorsten. I COULD have had 13 in Osnabrück (or with Marion maybe even more), but as it got filled up in the evening, it was more difficult to get action. This is one disadvantage compared to Dorsten. Related to this is that in Osnabrück one has to chat the girls up then go upstairs. In Dorsten, you can just lie down on the bed and as soon as two are free they will come to you.
FUCKIN YEAH :D :D :D
Nice to see girls in Osnabrúck do more than those in Dorsten.
For the record Dorsten girls dont do Anal, CIM or lick a guys asshole!!! (of course u can lick their assholes)Well, Marion does more. Allegedly there are sometimes girls in Dorsten who do anal. However, in Dorsten ALL did BBBJ (though only one did CIM while I was there); in Osnabrück only about half did (including Marion, of course).
I did ask a couple of times in Dorsten, but the girls I asked didn't want me to lick their assholes.
Advantages of Osnabrück: Marion, a real FKK day. Advantages of Dorsten: more girls, all do BBBJ, better food, girls almost always work in pairs, shorter waiting times and in general more the feeling that the customer is king.
I think in the future I will stick to Dorsten. I am debating about visiting Wagenfeld. Who has been to Wagenfeld and Dorsten and can compare them?
Dude, you must be a fucking mutant. Think I was sixteen when I last was able to pull 10 orgasms in a night and even then my dick would turn purple.
Chivaz
Well, his age must be catching up with him - he managed to have 13 orgasms at Dorsten. LOL
I did ask a couple of times in Dorsten, but the girls I asked didn't want me to lick their assholes.
You should never ask, you just do it. When u are licking the pussy, you just slide your tongue over to the other hole.....:D
It would be really interesting to hear from someone who has been to Dolce Vita in Wagenfeld on a Sunday, or to Osnabrück on a Friday or Sunday.
me too!
I cann't find the website for DC in Wagenfeld. Some infos like
Sonntag von 12.00 Uhr - 01.00 Uhr (120 Euro)
Sonntags immer FKK-Party mit Brunch!
Why they also charge 120 Euros on Sunday? What can the difference be on Sunday from other days?
Pures Vergnügen auf 1.000m2, großes Schwimmbad, großer Sauna- und Wellnessbereich, reichhaltiges Buffet. Geöffnet Montag bis Donnerstag und Sonntag von 12.00 Uhr Mittags bis 1.00 Uhr Nachts. Freitag und Samstag von 13.00 Uhr bis 3.00 Uhr - Jeden 2. Samstag Pornostars zu Gast - Ständig Mottopatys Alles kann, nichts muss - Einmal zahlen, alles Inklusive. Eintritt Mo. bis Do. 99,99 EUR - Fr. bis Sa. 120,- EUR .
The above quote should clear this up:
Fridays and Saturdays the entry fee is 120 Euros otherwise it is 99,99 Euros.
ValeVincent
11-16-06, 20:22
Hi,
Can somebody add a comment regarding the themedays at PT Dolce Vita. When I visited several years ago the "Lack-und-leder" tag was cancelled by a heatwave, but how is the straps-tag?
Anyone up to visiting and writing an exploratory report in English on Xtreff?
Marcelus Germanicus was at Xtreff in Altenstadt (mais oui, the same town that the former Atlantis was at) in September and wrote the following report entitled: "xtreff wieder besuchbar"... or "Xtreff again worthy of a visit".
Hi,
nachdem die xtreff Seite von fünf Damen bei den Events sprach und
dies für 99 Eisen, dachte ich nicht lange nach und fuhr nach Hammersbach.
Dort werkeln zwei blonde und zwei dunkelhaarige Damen im Alter von 19,25,25,35
....mal grob geschätzt. Alle kann man als fickbar bezeichnen, wobei zwei im Allgemeinen durch die Optikfickprüfung fallen.... Auch egal ! Im lässigen Ambiente
ließ es sich heute durchaus gut aushalten.
Das lag aber im wesentlichen an den Herren, die mit von der Partie waren.
Besonders grüsse ich den Herren, der demnächst nach Dorsten fahren wird.
Weiterhin sei mir der "Mann aus Honduras" gegrüsst, der russisch spricht und sich in seinem früheren Leben aus Flugzeugen fallen ließ
Ich liebe solche Vormittage mit netten Geschichten, Softdrinks und unserem gemeinsamen Hobby.
Fazit: Nachdem ich bei meinem letzten xtreff Besuch doch sehr am weiteren Fortbestehen dieses "Clubs" gezweifelt habe, scheint mir nun doch eine Besserung aufzufallen.... Mir soll es Recht sein
Hoffe die anderen Herren hatten eine gute Zeit !
Übrigens: Dank an den netten Kollegen, der mir meine liegen gelassenen
Moods brachte...
Highlights: 99 Euros, four women: two blondes, two darkhaired ones, ages 19, 25, 25 and 35, all "fickbar" or f__able. Fazit: he's been here before but considers his last visit to have been an improvement.
The above quote should clear this up:
Fridays and Saturdays the entry fee is 120 Euros otherwise it is 99,99 Euros.
To be clear, I think the original question was why 120 Euros on Sundays
at Dolce Vita. My idea was because it is FKK day. (Note, however, that
several times on the phone when inquiring about this I was informed
that it is actually only topless. Osnabrück also has topless on Sundays,
but advertises it as such, and FKK on Fridays is real.)
To sum up: Dorsten, Osnabrúck and Wagenfeld all have EUR 100 (or 99.99
or whatever) during the week and more on the weekend (Dorsten 125,
Osnabrück 125, 130 if there are porno stars there, Wagenfeld 120). The
weekend is Friday at Osnabrück, Saturday at Dorsten and Friday, Saturday
and Sunday at Wagenfeld.
The web pages at Wagenfeld aren't completely clear, but it IS 120 on
Sundays:
Öffnungszeiten
Montag - Donnerstag
von 12.00 Uhr - 01.00 Uhr (99,99 Euro)
Verschiedene Tages-Themen (mehr Infos)
Freitag und Samstag
von 13.00 Uhr - 03.00 Uhr (120 Euro)
Jeden Freitag Schulmädchen-Party!!!!
Samstags diverse Motto-Partys!
Jeden 2. Samstag Pornostars zu Gast.
Silke Maiden & Dany Sun! (mehr Infos)
Sonntag
von 12.00 Uhr - 01.00 Uhr (120 Euro)
Sonntags immer FKK-Party mit Brunch!
This is from the "Öffnungszeiten" page. The "Preise" page says 120
on weekends, but it is not clear what a weekend is.
In addition, Osnabrück is 88 on Wednesdays. Dorsten is 88 on Tuesdays.
Xavier Yves
11-18-06, 15:21
Anyone up to visiting and writing an exploratory report in English on Xtreff?
.
URL, please?
To sum up: Dorsten, Osnabrúck and Wagenfeld all have EUR 100 (or 99.99 or whatever) during the week and more on the weekend (Dorsten 125, Osnabrück 125, 130 if there are porno stars there, Wagenfeld 120). The weekend is Friday at Osnabrück, Saturday at Dorsten and Friday, Saturday and Sunday at Wagenfeld.Sorry, that should be "Saturday at Osnabrück".
Dorsten: different opening times Friday, Saturday, different price Saturday
Sunday--Thursday 10--12, Friday 10--1, Saturday 12--3
99 Sunday--Friday except 88 Tuesday, 125 on Saturday
Osnabrück: different opening times Saturday, Sunday, different price
Saturday
Sunday--Friday 10--1, Saturday 14--4.30, Sunday 11--12
This means the opening time is LESS on Saturday than during the week!
99 Sunday--Friday, 125 or 130 on Saturday
Wagenfeld: different opening times Friday, Saturday, different price Friday,
Saturday and Sunday
Sunday--Thursday 12--1, Friday--Saturday 13--3
99 Monday--Thursday, 120 Friday--Sunday
URL, please?
Monsieur,
Voila:
www.xtreff.com
A+!
Monsieur,
www.xtreff.comThis looks quite interesting, especially since it is closer to me than Wagenfeld, Dorsten etc.
Price is similar to other clubs.
Disadvantage: at most 10 hours, not THAT many girls.
Advantage: anal, CIM seem to be possible, perhaps with every girl.
Has anyone here been there recently? In particular, it would good to know how many girls are there on each day and how many men.
This looks quite interesting, especially since it is closer to me than Wagenfeld, Dorsten etc.
Price is similar to other clubs.
Disadvantage: at most 10 hours, not THAT many girls.
Advantage: anal, CIM seem to be possible, perhaps with every girl.
Has anyone here been there recently? In particular, it would good to know how many girls are there on each day and how many men.
.. to check out Xtreff and write a report in English, Svenfkk!
I wonder where this is with respect to the former Atlantis.
From the description it would seem to be a small club though.
Anyone up to visiting and writing an exploratory report in English on Xtreff?
Marcelus Germanicus was at Xtreff in Altenstadt (mais oui, the same town that the former Atlantis was at)
It's in Langen Bergheim which is actually closer to FRA than Altenstadt.
It used to be very good and the best of the partytreff in FRA, but had management and business issues and went downhill. If it's made a comeback it deserves a visit as the new location is less than a half hours drive from the airport and the Euro99 price tag is tempting.
It would be great if someone could visit and report in more detail on the scene and the sp.
It used to be in Altenstadt.
This dude, Schbritzer, visited before its move.
Der alte X-Treff in Altenstadt war eine durchaus schöne Institution. Ich war im Laufe des Jahres 2005 bestimmt 8 oder 10 Mal dort; mit wenigen Malen waren es immer Top-Abende. Gretels waren stets 3-4 da, optisch zumeist recht ansprechend, auch das Leistungsverhalten war in keiner Weise zu beanstanden. Bin meistens mit 1 oder 2 Kumpels dort gewesen. Auch wenn die Mädels kein Wort Deutsch sprachen, waren es fast immer sehr lustige Party-Abende, die auch - so schien es zumindest - den meisten Mädels Spaß gemacht haben. Ok, an die Location mußte man sich erst gewöhnen; aber dadurch, daß man ja auf insgesamt 3 Ebenen incl. Sauna vögeln konnte, war es angenehm. Ich habe es nur 1 oder 2 Mal erlebt, daß 10 und mehr Dreibeiner dort waren, dann hat es natürlich keinen besonderen Spaß gemacht. Manchmal waren unter der Woche abends auch nur 3 oder 4 Männer incl. uns da- da war Schbass vorprogrammiert, incl. gehörigem Entsaften.
Dann der Tiefschlag: Umzug nach Hammersbach ......
Has anyone been to either Osnabrück or Wagenfeld lately? I have a possible trip in mid January and am going to be close to either one. There has been a lot of discussion on opening times and rates, which is available from the web sites. The bad thing about trusting a web site is that they are able to present anything they want and then when you get there it is much different. If you have been there and have seen the web pages can you tell us if the pages are accurate or not.
I am more interested in the atmosphere of the place and the general quality and attitude of the girls. I have been to several of the FKK's and decided to give a Partytreff a try. It would be nice if the girls were all nude at the partytreff but that doesn't sound like the norm except of special days.
Bernd's sets a high standard for service but is in only one place. The price at Bernd's is also a bit higher than other places. The pay once 100E is attractive to me.
Any advice is most appreciated! Svenfkk and Jackyo, you both seem to have comments that sound like you have both been to these partytreffs. Let me know how they compare.
Cheers,
Bob
Has anyone been to either Osnabrück or Wagenfeld lately? I have a possible trip in mid January and am going to be close to either one. There has been a lot of discussion on opening times and rates, which is available from the web sites. The bad thing about trusting a web site is that they are able to present anything they want and then when you get there it is much different. If you have been there and have seen the web pages can you tell us if the pages are accurate or not.
I am more interested in the atmosphere of the place and the general quality and attitude of the girls. I have been to several of the FKK's and decided to give a Partytreff a try. It would be nice if the girls were all nude at the partytreff but that doesn't sound like the norm except of special days.
Bernd's sets a high standard for service but is in only one place. The price at Bernd's is also a bit higher than other places. The pay once 100E is attractive to me.
Any advice is most appreciated! Svenfkk and Jackyo, you both seem to have comments that sound like you have both been to these partytreffs. Let me know how they compare.
Cheers,
Bob
PT Osnabrueck is okay if you happen to be in Osnabrueck but I wouldn't go out of my way to go. Smaller club than PT Wagenfeld. If you are into anal like our colleague Svenfkk is, though, you might be able to get this service here.
PT Wagenfeld, on the other hand, is always worth a detour.
Have you been to PT Dorsten? Wagenfeld is similar in lots of ways but also a lot looser, less restrictive.
It might just be me but the women at Wagenfeld, I think, have more fun with their work. I say restrictive at Dorsten because you have the impression that the owner (actually he's a pretty cool dude) seems to have tighter control of the girls.
Oh, wait. Let me add one caveat. If you can respect the bar dude's rules at PT Wagenfeld you should be okay. His rules are simple: no drinks in the living room area, no eating nude in the eating area, no feet on the tables.
Other than that you should be fine.
The other PT in the area is PT Muenster. Not recommended.
Dont forget the beer limit at Wagenfeld...think i was on number 4 (bottled unlike Dorsten's tap beer) when the bartender cut me off. The trick is to wait till the bartender gives the bar duties to one of the ladies for a couple of minutes and then ask for a beer. Or have you buddy who wasnt drinking at the time get you a fresh beer (thanks Jackyo ;-)
Jackyo and Breadman, thank you for comments. This certainly helps when someone with experience can point out the potential problems.
OK, just a couple more questions, what is normal for the number of girls? What is the ususal ratio during the day? More girls/men early or late? What sort of activities are available while the ole battery is recharging? Do the girls really get into the sauna? Most places it seems the girls are either not allowed there or are afraid of getting hot. Is there a place to take a short nap?
Say, thanks for your help here. I have not been to a PT yet and am intrigued with the concept, all you want and can put out for one price. I have very much enjoyed many days relaxing at different FKK's. Each has its pluses and minuses.
Bob
Wagenfeld had around 9 women...4 of which were very attractive. The other girls were just average (and below) in looks. Couple of the later group could be done if you focused on one of the hotter one's that was getting 'some' across the room. Same can be said for Dorsten...a couple of honey's and the rest just 'filling'. Some a bit overweight...but if it pops out all you have to do is find a handy fold and finish.
For those interested in trying out Wagenfeld or Dorsten, you wont find a roomfull of stunners...but several will be of the quality that could work in a Fkk club.
The ratio of guys during the week are pretty consistent...never tried a partytreff on the weekend but it seems like the number of girls increases to handle the extra guys who have the weekend off and have the time to visit. Wagenfeld has alot of extra space that would be nap friendly...Dorsten has some but not as much.
Id suggest if you want to try out a partytreff, you check out Dorsten...if you dont like the atmosphere Heavensgate is a short hop away.
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