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Thanks Dedalus!
She's always been a favorite of mine since I met her last year. Let's hope she'll be in town a few more weeks before heading off to Switzerland!
She always reminded me a little dirty angel!
JimmieI can't promise it, but I doubt she'll stay in Switzerland long. It's not the deal for the girls that they think it will be and most all of the ladies I know who have tried it out down there end up coming back. If I understood her correctly, then this is supposed to be the week she was to try out the Swiss scene.
I'm hoping she returns as well. Next to a major show-stopper that Henio and I met last summer at VIPS in Tarragona named Monika, Simona wins the blue ribbon for,"Best in Tits!"
Cheers,
Dedalus
Here it is May the 7th and I don't see any mention of the World spring party on their website nor on the german forum. Talking about the fliers that pop up on those websites. Any idea if its still on for May 28th? If so, any idea what it might entail this year?
Here it is May the 7th and I don't see any mention of the World spring party on their website nor on the german forum. Talking about the fliers that pop up on those websites. Any idea if its still on for May 28th? If so, any idea what it might entail this year?Hey Man,
It's listed on their events calendar, and I have been collecting tickets for the drawings on that evening.
No idea why there is no real web advertisement going on but there are posters at World about the party.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Jimmie Johnson
05-09-11, 03:46
I can't promise it, but I doubt she'll stay in Switzerland long. It's not the deal for the girls that they think it will be and most all of the ladies I know who have tried it out down there end up coming back. If I understood her correctly, then this is supposed to be the week she was to try out the Swiss scene.
I'm hoping she returns as well. Next to a major show-stopper that Henio and I met last summer at VIPS in Tarragona named Monika, Simona wins the blue ribbon for,"Best in Tits!"
Cheers,
DedalusHey Dedalus,
Looks like I missed her by a week or less.
I was at World over the weekend and didn't see her there. So disappointing. .
You would think she'd stay at least the rest of the month for World's anniversary party. Haha.
Jimmie
So the featured girls, like Annina Hill, are they coming to just perform, or can you fuck them?
So the featured girls, like Annina Hill, are they coming to just perform, or can you fuck them?Generaly speaking, in a big size club like World, you can't shag the star in attendance. In smaller clubs, they declare that you may session with the stars, with an over priced tag (seems you should double normal price of a session. 100 Euro per 30 min) but not in FKK World.
Excellent post, deserves 5 star for this one. Keep them coming, maybe meet up one one day!
FKK World.
16th club visit of 2011.
Getting to bed at 04:30 after Oase the crew agreed to meet up at 11:00 this morning to gather up for our next club visit. As we gathered the crew together we saw Rex and Timjava pass us in the lobby on their way to World. We would see them there.
We decided to fill up the rental car so we drove around the corner to the Jet petrol station and put in 25. 52 or diesel into the car.
As we drove around Linden we noted that next week there would be no major messes in FFM. But there is the Erotik Messe in Giessen the next weekend. We were wondering whether it would be worth getting our arses up to Giessen and see the hot totty on display. There may also be some local Giessen burgers making their way to World to vent their passion after getting all worked up watching some porno stars doing their stuff at the Erotik Messe. I digress.
We set off for World at 11:40 and arrived in P2 car park at 11:50. We disembarked the crew and then we see Rex and Timjava pull up in P2 as well. We ask incredulously why they took so long to get to World. Rex blames Timjava's driving by taking a wrong turn. LOL.
We join forces again and we move into the reception. We take turns paying our entrance and each receives a large towel to wrap around our waists. I pay with a prepaid VIP card which cost 260 for 5 entries working out at 52 per entry.
I also have 4 laminated cards for a 750 mL bottle of prosecco worth 30 each meaning I had 120 worth of white wine to be used. With crews from the Ice bears and crews from ISG I thought we would use them later on to enhance the evening with friends.
We went in to get changed. I entered the red curtains into the main bar room (the Winter garden) and I was pleased to see Luana (ro) who immediately insisted that I come talk to her. She asked me to see if I could remember her coterie and I could except for the cute new Romanian blond that was new to me. Luana (ro) introduced her as Christina (ro).
LUNCH.
I take a 7Up drink from the bar and go join the crew and the Ice Bears in the dining room. We have scrambled eggs enhanced with ham, cold cut meats, cheese slices, some vegetable and beef soup and cups of black tea. Later on at 13:00 it is lunch menu so lasagne is served along with roast chicken thighs and boiled potatoes.
THE INITIAL RECONNOITRE.
After my initial review of the club in the company of crew member 1 the thought is that one should get their hairy arse to World. The place is so much more relaxing than the hell hole that Oase was during the ISH plumbing Messe. Oase was rammed with Italians. In the car park there were at least two camper vans holding 8 Italians in each. When we got to the club at 10:00 on our Oase visit the day before we saw 8 Italians climb out of their camper van and go immediately into the club for their morning shave and bath. The Italians sure make the club lively and the German girls love the Italians from what I am told since there are numerous and they come often.
In the indoor swimming pool area we did notice that there is new stucco and rock wall covering instead of the white washed painted wall. The black framed Asian script pictures are gone now.
As has been mentioned before World's attempt at a bed sheet is by using a medium sized blue towel in the rooms has been a practice at World for a number of years and not a recent thing. I think those blue towels are more common in the morning and afternoon but in the evenings when there is a rush on rooms those blue towels do not get replaced regularly. It is better to carry a spare towel in addition to the towel wrapped around your waist. As Hessen Bub says it may be helpful if you want to cover the entire bed is to take 4-5 towels into the room with you.
Another thing noted is that one of the main benefits of World is the management's strict policing of the girls to be completely naked so nearly no skirts or suspender belts around waists or other silly bits of cloth on the body. Even at Oase you do see a few of the girls sporting all sorts of get up but still exposing the pussy and the breasts as a minimum requirement. At Palace it gets worse with some girls wearing bustiers. This is not real FKK as Verona (hr) would say. Even when it is Dessous at world the girls wear so little anyway that it matters nowt. It leaves nothing to the imagination to coin a phrase. Also the girls are kind enough to take off their clothes when they go to the room. So that is really kind of them.
SAUNA AND WELLNESS.
We ended the tour by going to the hotter of the two saunas. I went to the bathroom to fill up the metal bucket with water. I came back and began the Aufgass for us. In waves I poured all the water onto the hot coals and then we endured the heat. We set the sand timers off and prayed for the sand grains to fall faster as it was so hot in there. We lasted 10 minutes and left the sauna and headed outside. I went to the outdoor swimming pool and walked into the water from the stairs. I plunged my entire body into the water and stayed under water for a time to cool off. I got out and found crew member 1 taking some water in the wooden floored patio area. We took spaces on the loungers and enjoyed the sunshine and sunbathed. Oh this was bliss, cooling off from the sauna, sun shining and a cool water to drink.
I then went for a nap on the loungers by the indoor swimming pool. There were a lot of German men all collapsed in heaps on the loungers sleeping or reading newspapers or working on their laptops. Of course girls would come up to the men and ask them to come to the zimmer and forget their reading.
Cindy (de) came by to say Hello, and see if I was up for some horizontal exercise but I said that I was on a pause. I rested some more and then Cindy (de) came back again and she persisted this time and got me to kiss her. I was weak.
FIRST BOOKING CINDY (DE)
15:00 to 15:15.
Cindy (Germany)
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Hair / length: Blond / to her neck.
Eye colour: blue.
Height: 1. 65 m
Build / Cup size: slim, petite / firm B cup
Nationality / Language: Germany / German, English
Age: late twenties.
Tattoos / Piercings: None that I recall.
Service: kissing, deep throat blowjob, she even choked and gagged gasping for breath in between going down. 69, multiple position sex, HJ then more deep throat BJ, body to body play then COB ending.
Advantages: patient in getting her customers, this session went quicker than I would have liked. Each stage was done correctly but not for very long. A pretty woman with a personality that is emphatic.
Disadvantages: in my experience, once you come it is the end of the session.
Duration: 15 minutes
Price: 100.
Extras on the visit: COB 50
Would you repeat? : Yes.
The Romanian girls were whining about Cindy (de) calling her that "Deutsche Frau". LOL. She was doing rapid business with the predominately German clientele leaving some of the Romanian girls jealous it would seem.
DINNER.
Food at World is still the same as always but last week they served these gorgeous crispy rostis for dinner. Rex the Ice Bear must have eaten 20 by the end of the night. I probably did too. I am a bad Basketcase.
There was also a whole ham that one could carve, roast pork slices, and roast beef slices, with sauces, red cabbage and boiled new potatoes. A selection of salads, beef and vegetable soup, lasagne left over from lunch. I creamed over the vanilla and chocolate mousse for sweet. Food was available to past 03:30 in the morning.
The ice bears and the ISGers ate together. While we were finishing eating I went to my locker to collect the 4 prosecco bottle vouchers which are worth 30 each. I gave a voucher each to crew member 1, Timjava and Rex. The idea was that were going to enjoy the drinks tonight.
About this time the second ISG crew turned up. They were found on the couch in front of the cinema in the Winter Garden. I gave my last prosecco bottle voucher to them.
After the meal we retired to the Winter garden to review the line up and relax in the fine company of some good like minded colleagues.
THE ATMOSPHERE.
FKK World was rocking to the rafters. The ISGers and the Ice Bears and the Roemerforumers were in force. A group of people who are members of a motorcycle club even made an appearance later in the evening.
As said before another ISG crew had come down from Cologne arriving around 17:00. So with Ice Bears, an augmented ISG crew and random Roemerforumers we had quite a group of guys that one could spend time with. It was not like we sat all together it was usually just twos and threes as we pass each other by. It was always good during the 15. 5 hour stay to catch up with each other as we went about our rounds.
There was reported to be a guy with a nickname of Bluat coming to World this day. So to enliven things up we made a game of hunting Bluat down. The winner of the game would be whoever found Bluat first and the prize would be a free standard session paid for by the others. Now we find that Bluat did not turn up and went to Villa Vertigo instead. I guess no one was going to win that bet. However, we were never to know that at the time.
This was bet was better than the one where the forfeit was to be forced to fuck the girl that the others would choose. Choosing the right girl for the forfeit takes some serious and weighty consideration.
So FKK can also be fun, it is not always about the sex, it is also about the relaxation. Do not take this hobby too seriously or else you lose some of the enjoyment.
Girls were in abundance at World but not as many as at crazy Oase with 150 girls in attendance. Rooms were constantly full with waits for a chamber tent city.
There were some Italian middle aged men walking around in their Y front underpants and singlet. I saw the Roemerforum guys laughing their heads off at these guys not walking around in Hessen dress. One even had a towel wrapped around his Y fronts; the other was carrying their towel in their hand. The two Italian men passed the dining room and went downstairs. A few moments later we see the two Italian men coming back from down stairs wrapped in towels around their waists and their vests and underpants in their hands. It seems a Thekefrau had tracked them down and told them to disrobe as it was not appropriate to be dressed in your man underwear in the common club area.
THE MUSIC.
I dedicate this section of my report to crew member 1.
DJ Andy had arrived around 20:00 and as always he played a good mix of music. Some say that sometimes it plays it really just too loud. This list is some of the music played by DJ Andy that gets me into the World mood:
Black Eyed Peas The Time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwQZQygg3Lk
Hed Kandi Man in the Mirror.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAUND8hpSAA
Yves Larock Rise Up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoMYU_nOGNg
Jay Sean featuring little Wayne Down.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUbpGmR1-QM
Akcent That's My Name.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oASZG96v0Rk
Tom Boxer featuring Antonia Morena.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bt4ixiUteNM
Edward Maya This is my Life.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYPCSLX_Orw
Guru Josh Project Infinity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzy2dgEUOhY
Edward Maya Stereo Love.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-Z3YrHJ1sU
Jay Sean Do you Remember.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a81eP2E8MEQ
Hearing this music gets me into the party mood. It is happy, inspiring and uplifting music. I enjoy house music. I hope that this brings back the memories of the partying.
It is so cool watching the Romanian girls come to life late in the evening when DJ Andy plays the series of Romanian house music.
THE HOOKERS BOOKED BY THE GUYS.
I think crew member 2 took Roberta (ro) and Ramona (ro) to the room. Roberta (ro) was club standard whereas Ramona (ro) upon finding out that it was to be a 50 session step up the pace to finish off crew member 2 and get him out of the room. Rex booked Angie (ro) twice during his stay, Nina (pl) and maybe one other. Blond Angie (ro) really rocked Rex's world just like Ramona / Rebecca (ro) does at FKK Oase. Nina (pl) was where Rex was taking one for the team when his feedback was that she did not want to do certain services considered standard in a 30 minute 50 session. I did not note who Timjava booked. Crew member 1 did a nice girl Ella (ro). Markthomas1950 was there too and he did a bevy of girls that I will let him report on in his report.
MASSAGE.
At 21:00 I did have the Thai lady instead of my regular Gunter give me a half hour massage. She is really good too. My back felt loose and the dull ache from the stiffness was replaced by the pain from being pummelled like a tough steak. At 30 this massage is recommended if you are in the club but it really is expensive when in some places for locals in FFM you can get a one hour massage for 29.
THE PROSECCO.
The crew settled on the couch in front of the cinema. Crew member 1 went off to use his prosecco voucher and came back with flutes and a bottle in an ice bucket. We charged our glasses and had a toast to the success of our trip this time. The music was great and the company was convivial.
I got a bit tipsy with the drink so I decided to take a nap. I felt really tired and opted to go the wet sauna to rest. The wet sauna requires you to push a button that sets the steam in motion which takes two minutes to take effect. I hosed down the seating and lay down. The steam eventually came and I could not see more than 30 centimetres in front of me. I lay in the steam sauna for maybe 30 minutes resting and recovering. Then another man joined me. I could not see him except for a vague shadow. I guess that was my cue to leave. I got up and went out to the adjacent bathroom for a shower.
I returned the crew on the couch and by then crew member 2 had replenished the bottle with another bottle of prosecco. It was going to be a long night.
THE VIP GUESTS.
When I was in the lobby getting a fresh towel I noticed a retinue of large VIP guys enter the clubs with their similarly labelled jackets. I walked back the crew and said to be prepared to move since we were in the newly arrived VIP group's usual spot. The crew was still with prosecco and we were not ready to move.
I looked over to the couch adjacent to us in the New York area and there were German men and their favoured hookers sitting there canoodling. I decided we will take our chances and move if we get asked to move.
Sure enough the World robed retinue of large men came into the club led by a World manager. The group walked past us and went straight for the German men who were asked by the manager to make space for the VIP group. The VIP group were standing in a line behind the manager. The Germans looked up behind the manager and agreed to move and move they did immediately.
Our group breathed in. What a reprieve for the ISGers. Somehow we felt some close comradeship after this. It was at this point that crew member 1 went off to buy another bottle of prosescco. I guess he likes to drink and means we keep our couch.
THE FIRE INCIDENT.
I noticed while I sitting on the couch just outside the cinema that I smelt smoke. So I went into the cinema which had its curtain pulled and saw that the room was full of smoke. People were so intent fucking in the cinema that no cared about the cigarette someone had thrown in waste paper basket that started a small fire. People were fucking around on the mattresses ignoring the smoke. I guess taking a couple of minutes to see to the smoke / fire would mean that they would miss out on their precious 30 minutes. I know how they feel given the amount of times that I have been short changed on the time. At least three couples were going at it but one couple was just lying back relaxed. No one gave a toss about the smoke and the developing fire so I went to go and ask DJ Andy for a jug of water to put out the fire that was about to ensure. DJ Andy went to fill up a jug of water and was chastised by the bar ladies why he needed so much water. DJ Andy pointed to me at the bar and the cinema and the smoke coming from the cinema. DJ Andy then went personally to put the smoky fire out. Nice guy.
When I saw that it was all safe again I rejoined the crew on the couch outside the cinema. This was around midnight.
The party continued with bottles of hard spirits, red bulls and so forth being ordered by the group occupying the couch adjacent to us in the New York section in front of the slide door that leads outside. This group comprised of quite large guys wearing similar labelled jackets indicating their social association when they came into the club.
The rooms were busy with queues even at 03:30 with 1. 5 hours to closing time at 05:00.
THE END OF THE EVENING.
We had a little food in the dining room as a late supper and then after a bit on the couch to make sure that there was no last minute fucks that we wanted. Crew member 1 asked if I would like to leave and I readily agreed. Crew member 1 said I accepted the offer to leave a bit too quick which indicated that it was really time to go.
We left World at 03:30 so with an arrival of 12:00 it was 15. 5 hours in the World club was spent. The entrance was by using a VIP card 52.100 on Cindy (de) and 30 on a 30 minute back massage from the Thai lady equals a total spend of 182 for my 16th club visit of 2011.
We showered up, dressed, collected our wallets from the valuables lockers and left the club. We had a short 5 minute drive to our hotel nearby.
HOOKER LINE UP.
1. Adelina (ro) blond hair, slim, B cups, dark brown eyes, pretty, booked by a special customer.
2. Adella (ro)
3. Anastasia (de) black hair, pale, from Bremen (?)
4. Andrea (ro) blond, average build.
5. Angie (ro) curvy, buxom, blond, blue eyes, provides an excellent service per Rex. I have not been back in a while. A revisit should be scheduled.
6. Anna (ro)
7. Annabelle (pl) glasses
8. Ariella (bg) back from a stint at FKK Oase, tiny little girl. 20 years I think.
9. Carla (ru?)
10. Chrissie (ro) brown hair, petite build.
11. Christina (ro)
12. Christina (ro) dark / strawberry blond hair, tanned, very pretty.
13. Cindy (de) long blond hair to past her shoulders, wears glasses, a little MILFy, slim, firm B cups.
14. Claudia (ro)
15. Cristal (ro)
16. Danica (ro) black hair, lost a lot of weight, looks real good now.
17. Delia (ro)
18. Ella (ro) blond hair, pretty.
19. Eva (ro) bleach blond or light hair, A cup breasts, mid twenties.
20. Francesca (bg) tiny pixie looking, light brown hair.
21. Gala (ro)
22. Isabella (ro)
23. Jennifer (ro)
24. Jola (pl)
25. Julia (bg) tall, slim, flat chest, long black hair.
26. Lia (ro)
27. Libiana (it) MILFy blond Italian, plastic looking face think Pamela Anderson botox or Lola Ferrari with smaller tits, shocking, Rex's girl friend just like Lucia (ro) is at Oase.
28. Lorena (ro)
29. Luana (ro) long black hair, B cup breasts, friendly girl, average build.
30. Mercilis (hu)
31. Nina (pl) enhanced D cup breast, black hair in pig tails, booked by Rex whose feedback was that her service was sub club level. Has a long bleached blond haired Serbian friend that she hangs out with including taking a massage together.
32. Ramona (ro) now with dark hair, not bleached blond, buxom build, went with crew member 2 whose verdict was that when it was known that it was the 50 program the service level moved to trying to finish him off quickly.
33. Roberta (ro) large girl, booked by crew member 2 who verdict was shark like.
34. Samira (ro) blond hair, slim, criss-cross stockings.
35. Simona (ro)
36. Yoko (Asia)
37. Zarah (?) leathery skinned bleach blond that sits on the podium in the New York section
38. ? (?) Asian girl.
39. ? (?) Black girl.
40. ? (de) plastic looking, blond, no English.
41. ? (pl) blond, slim.
42. ? (ro) average build, black hair.
43. ? (ro) brown hair, average build, really good looking, classic beauty, the type of girl that would look real good on your arm.
44. ? (ro) slim build, gypsy looks, tanned tone skin.
45. ? (ro) tall, slim, curvy, black hair, enchanting smile.
46. ? (rs) The friend of Nina, big wild blond / light hair.
There were maybe another 30 girls that I could not recall, describe or name.
HOOKERS MISSING LIST.
1. Chanel (hu) blond, average build, interesting writing tattoos,
2. Delia (ro) blond, average build, petite.
3. Eva (rs) brunette, pretty, slim body, A cup breasts, leggy, gorgeously curvy arse, reported to be at club Globe in Zurich.
4. Himena (hu) petite but all in proportion, slim, excellent dancer, long dark brown hair, probably working at Mainhattan.
5. Mia (de) black page boy hair cut, slim.
6. Stella (bg) petite, black curly hair, provides a good service
Hessen Bub
05-15-11, 16:12
Excellent post, deserves 5 star for this one. Keep them coming, maybe meet up one one day!Agreed, but no need to quote the whole report.
HB
Arrived at 17:00 sharp and met two german guys waiting by the door for a third person to benefit from the 3-for-2 deal. We each paid our 42 euros, nice deal.
As soon as I entered, I was stalked by this Romanian girl, Ella. She was OK in looks, and I was horny after several sexless days so a good match. Nice session with her, but nothing to write home about.
Two hours later, another OK session with a petite Romanian, Alexandra, who had the looks and smile of Julia Roberts. I took her only because she was not behaving (read as : pushing) like the othet girls, and of course for her pretty face.
My third girl of the night was a german Sabina whose it was first day in World after several months in Hannover clubs and Kassel clubs. Late twentis, nice firm body. That was the best of the night as she was willing to please and willing to be pleased. We had had a nice chat before going to a room, and she told me she always charges 50 eur independent of how long the session is, be it 10 mins or an hour, unless I had extra wishes. She was true to her word as we spent a good 45 mins.
As I was going for a last smoke in the garden before I retired, I came across this German / AFgani girl, Lina (?) , who again said was her first day in World after few months in Oase. She had a body to die for. 19 yrs old. The session was so so, but her massage was outstanding. I was out of juice, so was teasing her that I am not the guy she is looking for, but it was already past 2am, and the club was getting empty so she talked me into a room for a nice sensual session, no rush, no worries. Walked out as a happy man.
Excellent post, deserves 5 star for this one. Keep them coming, maybe meet up one one day!Can you please take the time and effort to truncate the "quote" section? It saves on server space and is courteous to people on limited bandwidth.
Whereas Basket Cases posts are great for some people and some purposes, they are very lengthy and often full of utter crap like "I put 25. 62 into the car" which all but the most autistic really don't need to wait for a minute to download.
The first few lines and / or a ink will suffice.
Thanks.
Am off to World for the afternoon. If anyone is headed up and staying late I am keen to share a ride back to FRA HBF area. Will share cost whether it is private car or taxi. To find me at world. I have a large tattoo across my back and a smaller one on my left shoulder. Middle aged. Slimish
Can you please take the time and effort to truncate the "quote" section? It saves on server space and is courteous to people on limited bandwidth.Mike, I don't know how you Brits do it: remain so polite and all.
I would have thought that somebody who lacks the intelligence to figure out by himself how idiotic it is to quote a whole post the size of BC's report only to add some lame line, etc, would certainly have trouble with a word like "truncate." However, we all do applaud your sentiment here for sure.
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Apologies for the long quote and will ensure this does not happen again. I did not realise how lengthy it was and did try to see if there was an editing option to reduce the size of the post, but unfortunately I was too late.
Arrived early for the 3 for 2 entry, normally its a 5 minute wait to get 3 guys to walk in together to get the reduced entry. This time around is was closer to 40 minutes waiting with a german guest who drove 400kms to visit the club. Cab after cab arrived but no others guests so nothing to do but wait and exchange information, time and current information well spent. Finally the third in our group arrived and we made our way into the club and have to say I was not impressed with the Tuesday lineup at all. I did manage to find two decent choices, andrea and nicolletta.
Andrea, Romanian with a very attractive look but in the room the service was on the average side. Scorpion tattoo on her shoulder should help narrow her down. Had the service been top notch she would have had most of my money that day. As it was it went to nicolletta.
Nicolletta, hot little blonde Romanian. Gave me a smile from across the bar, was walking out with some of her friends when she changed directions and jumped in my lap. And thats the extent of the girls tried out on this day. Repeated with her 3 times, service was top notch, deepthroat, kissing, beautiful little pussy that was so tasty to munch on. Plenty of couch time, gave her a massage while she lay across my lap that got my juices flowing for round 3.
In the end I was dissapointed with the Tuesday lineup, in the past its always been decent, not great but a dozen decent choices. I'm hoping it gets better next weekeend when I get to return.
Hessen Bub
05-21-11, 13:23
In the end I was dissapointed with the Tuesday lineup, in the past its always been decent, not great but a dozen decent choices. I'm hoping it gets better next weekeend when I get to return.Currently Oase beats World.
HB
Member #4243
05-22-11, 20:40
Hi I'm thinking about visiting world first week in September. Only large frankfurt club I have still to see. What I need to
Know is what is world like in terms of atmosphere and girl numbers on a Monday (1st week sept and generally speaking). Secondly I will be staying in friedrichsdorf near oase so what is the cost of a taxi from world to friedrichsdorf and the approx distance in km's.
Thanks alot,
Mohab
Unusually good Sunday lineup today / tonight at World, both in numbers and visuals. Decent amount of punters as well which made for a good general atmosphere at the club.
Special note on the little spinner Andrea: I first had a session with her some months ago. Had seen her often and always regarded her as one of them "gum chewing dolled up Romanians". I have absolutely no problem with Romanians, they are my best sessions, but my impression of Andrea was for some reason that she might be a crap session. I was wrong. Few months ago I did a 1/2 hour session with her that was a great PSE type session with great visuals as she new how to make the most of the mirrors in the room. Today I did a long session with her which was very sensual, really sweet and she showed great work skills as well as work ethics. She somewhat takes charge of the session if you allow her, but also follows instructions to the point if you want her to do something differently. Great kisser, very competent BJ and ball licking. She knows how to make great visuals during sex with her spinner body. Don't be fooled by her dolled up looks which may give you a wrong first impression. I was really surprised of her sensuality. Highly recommended for my money. I can see below that Breadman had only so so session with her so I guess YMMV on her if it is the same girl.
Name: Andrea.
Nationality: Romania.
Height: 158 cm.
Weight: 40 kgs.
Hair: Dark frizzy, usually calmed tight back and with some kind of hair band.
Body: B cups, very tanned and slim
Hessen Bub
05-23-11, 07:57
Highly recommended for my money. I can see below that Breadman had only so so session with her so I guess YMMV on her if it is the same girl.Just beware: She's very tight. If your dick is more than average. Could cause a problem.
HB
Thanks for that report, Henio. Good news.
Andrea has been on my radar for a while. She's the one often wearing the fur booties, right?
She looks really hot. But two guys told me she wouldn't kiss. Mind you, judging by the look (of both) and the smell (of one. Why don't people make some effort to clean up before parting the red curtains?) , I could kind of see her point perhaps.
Just beware: She's very tight. If your dick is more than average. Could cause a problem.
HBAh! That explains that. Fortunately for Andrea, Henio is hung like a hamster.)
My one Andrea experience was pretty so-so. Girl is definitely hot, leggy and fine, but just a bit on the dull side. I tried her at the start of her World career (first day, in fact) so it could be that either she has improved or (more likely) Henio has outdone me once again in the charm department.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Hessen Bub
05-23-11, 11:53
She's the one often wearing the fur booties, right?Yes, that's her. Size zero.
She looks really hot. But two guys told me she wouldn't kiss.She does kiss and her BBBJ is sensual, not too deep, but good technique.
HB
Just beware: She's very tight. If your dick is more than average. Could cause a problem.
HBNot only thight, buy also a bit shallow which is actually more of a problem. Tight is fine, just lube her up a bit and enjoy the tightness, but there is no good remedy for shallow pussies.
Agree with HB, her BJ is sensual and good. Also does a very good ball licking/soft sucking and uses her tounge well in that general area. Her kissing is good, soft and sweet with just the right amount of tounge action.
I asked her to let me know when time was up based on what I had planned and she threw in extra 5-10 minutes taking care of me without overcharging. I often just ask the girls to let me know when time is up since I can't be bothered with looking at my watch and many will indicate time is up few minutes before. No problems with that, but I appreciate when a girl allows a bit of an overtime without making a fuzz about it. I like to give credit where credit is due and she just made me a repeat customer.
I often just ask the girls to let me know when time is up since I can't be bothered with looking at my watch and many will indicate time is up few minutes before. No problems with that, but I appreciate when a girl allows a bit of an overtime without making a fuzz about it. I like to give credit where credit is due and she just made me a repeat customer.Thanks for all this good data, Henio. Like Toscana, this tiny girl Andrea has long been on my radar, but I never pushed the button because I thought she gave off vibes of blandness. I might just give her a try after this discussion going on. Just shows how this forum can sometimes work at its best.
Whislt your at it: Can you give us your assessment of the World line up of late? I mean, you are a long-time World-man, a guy who has seen the line-ups at World wax and wane over the years. So from a historical perspective, how do you rate the line-up at World right now?
BTW: What's this comment about you being "hung like a hamster" stuff? I guess that's a joke from you good mate Dedalus, right? But does he often pay attention to your dimensions? I thought he was totally hetero...right? :)
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btw: what's this comment about you being "hung like a hamster" stuff? i guess that's a joke from you good mate dedalus, right? but does he often pay attention to your dimensions? i thought he was totally hetero. right? .
ohey,
ole' henio and i have been under enough adjacent shower-heads over the years that it would be difficult not to have snuck a peek or two in the past. also we've shared a couch or two whilst one, the other or both have been serviced orally by some ladies of an understanding nature. both of us are beyond shyness.
also both of us have taken christa (oase, romanian) to the room and both of us have cause her disappointment with our relative lack of endowment. she clearly prefers henio to me, but would rather have a go at some dude packing a tree-trunk in his shorts than either of us. ;-)
cheers,
dedalus, wishing that he could have joined henio at world on sunday.
Whislt your at it: Can you give us your assessment of the World line up of late? I mean, you are a long-time World-man, a guy who has seen the line-ups at World wax and wane over the years. So from a historical perspective, how do you rate the line-up at World right now?Well, as for Sundays, I would say it is amongst the better ones. I have usually picked Oase in the past for Sundays, but I found the Oase lineup on Saturday to be lacking in visuals (enough numbers though, but lots of saggy tits) so I decided on World this Sunday.
Having said that, I have a thing for young Romanians, usually have good luck with them and don't mind if they retain their original hair color (actually prefer them natural) so my taste may not be everyones cup of tea.
.... I thought he was totally hetero...right? :)
I am more worried about his fascination with hamsters. Guess that happens when you are involved in one too many acts of gerbilling :)
I thought he was totally hetero...right? :)
I am more worried about his fascination with hamsters. Guess that happens when you are involved in one too many acts of gerbilling :)I am outraged and shocked :mad: at these terrible and most slanderous accusations against the Great Dedalus who is a prince amongst the Germany - FKK Clubs Forum Contributors!
I am so outraged in fact, I must quote some Shakespeare! ;)
"Done to death by slanderous tongue was the Hero that here lies"
- Much Ado About Nothing
Also I can confirm that as far as endowment is concerned, why the ladies of FKK Oase seemed more than satisified with both the size and girth of Dedalus's.....
... wallet!
lets face it; this is the main measurement that we mongers need to worry about!
and a measurement, if of sufficient proportion, which will always bring a hooker to orgasm :)
CD
Like Toscana, this tiny girl Andrea has long been on my radarOrtos, all these years, and I didn't know you cared!
I am more worried about his fascination with hamsters. Guess that happens when you are involved in one too many acts of gerbilling :)Hehehe. Now Henio. If I were inclined to start hiding rodents in the rear-end, then not only would I have to quit taking part in all those animal rights protests that you find so silly, and get paid a visit by the local German version of the ASPCA, but more importantly you, Beffen, FKK Lover and a few others would take away my Man-Card. Not really a big deal, for I'd get it back the next time Simone shoves her tongue way up my hinder and then lays a good DFK on you in the room afterwards. Actually I might be the only one of us who hasn't opted for the "AV Option" at the Machau saunas. ;)[/QUOTE]
Well, as for Sundays, I would say it is amongst the better ones. I have usually picked Oase in the past for Sundays, but I found the Oase lineup on Saturday to be lacking in visuals (enough numbers though, but lots of saggy tits) so I decided on World this Sunday.
Having said that, I have a thing for young Romanians, usually have good luck with them and don't mind if they retain their original hair color (actually prefer them natural) so my taste may not be everyones cup of tea. I'd bet that the World line-up will start to, or already has started to pick up in anticipation of the upcoming party.
I was also a tad disappointed with the overall Oase line-up on Saturday. However I did have great sessions with Deborah (Thanks for the heads up, HB!) and Vivian. Both new finds for me.
Cheers,
Dedalus, not a huge Richard Gere fan
I am outraged And shocked :mad: at these terrible And most slanderous Accusations against the Great Dedalus Who is a prince amongst the Germany. FKK Clubs Forum Contributors!
I am so outraged in fact, I must quote some Shakespeare! .
"Done to death by slanderous tongue was the Hero that here lies"
- Much Ado About Nothing
Also I can confirm that as far as endowment is concerned, why the ladies of 's.
. Wallet!
lets face it; this is the main measurement that we mongers need to worry about!
And a measurement, if of sufficient proportion, which will always bring a hooker to orgasm.
CDHey CD,
Again, from that good ole' bard:
"The purest treasure mortal times afford.
Is spotless reputation: that away,
Men are but gilded loam or painted clay.
A jewel in a ten-times-barr'd-up chest.
Is a bold spirit in a loyal breast.
Mine honour is my life; both grow in one:
Take honour from me, and my life is done:
Then, dear my liege, mine honour let me try;
In that I live and for that will I die."
Still, we cope and as my dear comrade in arms (legs, breasts as well as other anatomical appendages) Henio well knows,"he who laughs last...."
True enough art thine words with regards to the wallet's wallop. An extended session never fails to buy me a few more inches here or there. ;)
Cheers,
Dedalus
Still, we cope and as my dear comrade in arms (legs, breasts as well as other anatomical appendages) Henio well knows,"he who laughs last."
True enough art thine words with regards to the wallet's wallop. An extended session never fails to buy me a few more inches here or there. .
Cheers,
Dedalus
Dedalus, as a famous countryman of mine once said:
"It is a curious fact that people are never so trivial as when they take themselves seriously"
Fair play to you Sir, for avoiding that particular trap.
Yes wise words indeed except that self same fellow countryman may not have been averse to a bit of gerbilling... yeuch! :(
And definitely would not have passed the rigerous Ortos Hetero Test! :eek:
Still the words above retain some merit!
CD
Andrea is very friendly, likeable and fair. Her performance is a little uninspired but solid enough. She is absolutely tiny.
Sometimes she can be seen with Giselle (Ru). About the same height but a little heavier (maybe 50kg?). Giselle has her hair moussed hard and swept back, tends to hold her shoulders a little up. She is very slightly screwball but is great fun, willing to spend time with you outside the room. Her performance is good solid standard, but her personality makes her stand out.
Dina from russia should be back in a few weeks. Another unusual person. She was at World in its earliest days when many of the girls spent most of the day in flip flops and lounging downstairs. Dina still maintains this tradition against all the odds. She wears no make up and no accessories. Her performance is committed and good. But not totally oustanding. She is very fair and will spend ages talking before you go to a room. Her english is excellent
This was my second spring party, the first was very enjoyable. This last party was dull compared to last years. Seemed like they made more of an effort this year than last, not sure if the cool weather the day before caused many to skip this years event. Looks like they hired a professional party planner to make it more memorable. Several inflatables were placed around the property including an inflatable space shuttle with two slides down the side that sat by the front gate before you entered the club. Have to wonder what or when that might have been put to use. Your entering and leaving fully dressed, is it meant to get you to your car faster? And not sure I'd want to be sliding down that in a towel, let along ride the mechanical bull. A mechanical bull? Yes. A mechanical bull where you slide a rope between your legs to hold onto. Dangerous enough in a bar wearing jeans, try it out just wearing a towel and you just hope nothing gets caught when you get thrown off, let alone all the other bare ass's that sat on it ahead of you. These 'rides' just seemed out of place like the young guys manning them, I can see them being used by a bunch of kids from an elementary school, but a bunch of naked women and guys wearing towels? Not. Instead of spending money on this, why not rent some tents to alleviate the room wait times?
Too many drunk guys, not enough rooms, the raffle being called off only in german, porn stars past there prime, strippers who danced half as much as some runt of an ass who thought himself the life of the party, some old guy who got on the dance pole wasted thinking it was a time machine back to his youth.
I remember visiting this club a couple of years back, they had some of the hottest talent who would get on the dance poles and really put on a show, even a lesbian show or two. Now its just drunk old guys at a party who can't keep it up and take any of the women to the rooms. The Godfather aka Vito, Danger Inc aka Regnad and the Barron 'as myself' seemed at times to be the only one's paying attention to the women. With Vito's suggestion and the long room waits I only repeated with my favorites, getting plenty of free time, HJ's and fondling while waiting for the rooms.
As to the food, they had the same pizza tent and the dessert tent from last year. And the normal grill setup that was putting out some of the lamest bbq ever, VV and LR had some of the best bbq on this trip with Oase coming in a close third. And the food indoors was just passable. Same old sausage, chicken, burgers or what pass's for ribs in Germany. And what's with all these odd vegtables served cold? Corn should never be cold, pick it, soak it in water and throw the husk and all on some coals, that's how you serve corn. Instead of all those inflatable junk and the mechanical bull they should have imported some real Texas bbq and had themselves a pig roast or even a steer roast. Nothing says bbq like an entire animal on a spit, now that's a party. Empty the pool, fill with charcoal, get a fork lift to do the flipping, import some honest to goodness HOT american porn stars and you've got one hell of a party in the works.
This was my second spring party, the first was very enjoyable. This last party was dull compared to last years.The best part of the party, to my mind, was that the place was a morgue on Sunday and I had a certain dream girl all to myself all day and into the evening.
Member #4243
06-01-11, 04:49
I would be grateful if someone could give me the taxi cost from world to oase and also what might the atmosphere in terms of girl no's be like on a Monday in September compared to past years as a reference.
Thanks,
Mohab
My first birthday party at World.
So I've no comparaison.
But wonderful day!
Sure, who cares about a mechanical bull, a space shuttle and other toys.
But was the atmosphere that was wonderful and I've no time to look at the details.
In the first part of the day seemed a kind of Playboy party, but in fkk's style, then became a kind of Bacchanalia.
I arrive at 11:00 and leave at 1 am. And I don't know if later the situation became unlivable.
Sure after 22 was inpossible to stay at the bar too much people.
But the afternoon was delightful, also if was not totally sunny.
And for the usual price!
And to the girls!
150 girls!
Too much girl!
Very very good quality! A lot of wonderful girls of every kind.
And for my experience one of the best rooms I've ever had.
LIANA.
A skinni girl. 1,70 black air, with a very long long extension.
One of the most intense GFE I've ever had.
ADINA.
Very pretty favolous boobs, a Chinese simbols tattoed vertically on the spinal column.
An unstoppable worker. She never stops until she give you a complete pleasure.
CINDY.
Blond MILF, secretary style, with sexy glasses. A rarity, a real german girl.
I find her little drunk. She ask me I want to kiss her pussy. The best oral sex I ever give.
And obviusly all those girls deep full kiss, BBBJ, fingering and all I can desire.
AND.
The real hidden guest-star of the party!
The ex-queen of the Oase!
TIMEA!
I've never met her at Oase (and I always regret this)
But why she was there?
She's back at work? And why at World?
She said that now is kind of free-lance and when she is in the right mood (what eufemism!) she works 2/3 days.
She went at Oase and one of the chief accused her of working everywhere (not true said her) and so pull her out.
So she was at World.
(this is her version of the story)
But who cares!
I had fabolous time with a real legend of fkk. And the legend is true!
Best day in a FKK
150 girls!Last years party had roughly 110 girls, give or take. There is no way this years party had anywhere close to 150, tops I'd put it around 80, give or take. Alot of girls arrived early, well ahead of the guys. This might have given the impression that the number would keep growing. In reality it was almost a normal Saturday night lineup (around 60) plus a few new girls.
Hessen Bub
06-01-11, 22:51
A rarity, a real german girl.There's a handfull of German girls at World. And even more at Oase. They are not THAT rare.
HB
One is for instance a blonde Lara from Frankfurt who is a solid 9 in looks.
She is friendly and nice to chat with too. She doesn't push for going into the room, nor shows any sign off boredom if you prolonge the conversation. Both times, I was the one asking to go to the room well after a 30min chat.
Her service in the room is slightly above average. Nothing exceptional. She is more of an optikfick than PSE. Is recommendd for a nice slow session when not many stunners are around.
She usually sits alone, and unlike most other girls, particularly romanians, is not the one who approaches customers.
There's a handfull of German girls at World. And even more at Oase. They are not THAT rare.
HB
Last Wednesday there was a solid 10 dutch girl in the World who was picked up and booked for a good 2 hours as soon as she arrived in the club. She than disappeared again for the rest of the night with or without a guy which I couldn't trace. She definitely did not show up until I left few miutes before the closing time. The Polish girl she was chatting around the bar did not have a clue where she was gone. Name is Maraka or Mayaka or something that sounds along the lines of that.
Blonde, curly long hair. 1.75cm plus, possibly 19 or 20 years old, a body and a smile to die for.
Anyone has a clue?
Simona blond 23yr firm C cups Romania.
Simona has very good looks and she is kind of a young secretary daydream type of girl. Her body is excellent, one of the best works that has been seen in FKK scene. She had 1 yr ago some problems with her skin but they are history now because she has found the right lotions that fits for her complexion. She has that harem type of look in her eyes mixed with curious girl-next-door 'fuck me' invites.
We walked to the room and its nice to look at her when she walks. Many newbies in World almost drop their eyes when seeing Simonas body that close. Regulars just give an adoring smile. We found a room after little search down and upstairs and we were ready. First I examined her body all around. Little bit like doctor does. I squeezed her soft & firm natural C / D cup pair of titties from many different angles. I love those titties. Then I asked her to sit down on bed and she started slow blowjob and after a while changed her position so I can just lay down and see her pussy and the way she licks my cock. Whatever I choose to watch. I wanted longer blowjob than usual, so I firmly slide my hands here and there on here body, tits, ass and finger her on her pussy, which is actually a tight one. After slowly done blowjob my cock was hard and ready penetrate into that beautiful creature. Before fucking I titfuck her in different positions to get all out of those titties. I fucked her first on missionary and watched my cock slide into pussy and how her beautiful breasts move in different directions when she lies on her back being fucked. Then I turn her sideways and add a little pace. She starts to find better position that she could handle my cock. Because it grows sometimes too big and is harmful because often vaginas are not suitable. (Just to mention so it is not a good thing to have a cock this size if aim is for the sexual pleasure, not machoing about cock size. Cock that fits vagina perfectly is the best size) But Simona can take all size of cock deep without complaining. She has some problems but deals with it like a sex goddess is supposed to. Then I ask her to go to doggy and I start my pleasure pumping. That body is gods best work, satans best tool. It is so satisfieng to fuck her from behind, crab that ass, crab those titties, feel her blond hair, feel her fit legs with silky skin. And, the best part, to see how her tight pussy lips squeeze my cock when I slide it in and out. That beautifull fresh looking pink pussy. I stop and ask her to set her self on top of me cowgirl. She takes the cock in and start to jump slowly. And those tits on my face. Ohmygodohmygod. I almost cum but I managed to slow down the pace a little bit because I wanted to cum from behind. So we move to behind and I start pumping, again experiencing that beauty. Testosterone levels up and pump harder, harder and harder. She crabs a pillow on her fist to take my still growing cock better and better. I pump and get an explosive series type of orgasm cuming inside her. Wow, I love that experience. I kept my cock inside for a while to get all the orgasmic waves that her pussy offered. Ready, out of the room. 50 euros, one beer and to the hottub.
Alina blond 21 yr firm A cups good body Romania.
She is good one when you click with her. But I think there must be a click with her to give her points from 8-10. That is my opinion despite the fact that I don't know how she is when not good in the room. She is playfull too.
Marina dark hair petite 21yr. Romania Big eyes good characteristics 42kg's.
Very good characteristic. Decisive, very service oriented and it is easy to get hypnotized by her big eyes. She is small but doesn't complain about taking cock. Penetration from behind was hard.
Laura dark / brown hair 18yr very petite. Romania (smallest one in FKK world?)
This spinner is very good. She is 18yr old and doesn't know yet how be sharky. She came to sit on my lap and licked my ear, I was sold. I was so horny that I wanted to do everything with that superpetite teen Romanian. She weights 39 kilos so it is easy to lift her. We went to room and I imediately put her to sit on side of the bed and took the white curtain off to uncover my horny cock. This little one started to lick, suck, slapped my cock into her face, licked my balls, puts my balls on her little 18yr old face, sucked more, licked more. And smiled. I wanted to put my cock into her mouth in every position I could make up. I put her on side of the bed head over the side and fucked her on her mouth, put balls on her mouth. She sucked them, licked them, spits on them, licks them and smiles. I tap her face with my cock and she tries to lick all parts of my cock. Then I put her lying on bed and fuck her mouth from top of her. She pulls me deeper until she gags and repeats until she has to turn around to take some breath. And quess what. She smiles and says MORE. She is so small that at least a more than average size man can lift her upside down to suck cock and at the same time DATY. I didn't DATY her I kept her legs on my other shoulder and watched from the mirror how her head jumps on my cock while being upside down and me standing in front of the mirror. Once in a while she licks and looks me from the mirror. And smiles. I turn her back to the bed that she won't start feeling sick. I lay down and say her to lick me so I can watch her petite body and the way she works with my cock. Then I say that I want to fuck and she gets the condom. She is not that skillful with condom but very good for a starter. Now this petite thing is lying in front of me and spreading her legs. It is hard to get my cock in and the best part IMO is that she doesn't lube, she spits on her fingers thats her moisturizer. Now I get it in and watch her pussylips squeezing my cock. I slowly slide it just to watchs her pussy taking it. I fuck her with some faster pace and she takes it like a good woman. I change position to doggy. Romanians have deeper pussies than many other and they are willing to take more than many others. This is almost a medical fact. I start pummeling her carefully from behind. But I can't resist that I want give her a lesson in taking cock from behind. And then I ram it in and she screams and says 'ma fu tai' (it is fucking in romania or something). Then she pushes her head towards the pillow and squeezes the sheet with all the power she has in her little hands. I think that did I make it too rough. But no no no, this perfect servant looks me from the mirror, smiles and says 'yea baby'. I ram her more and wonder at the same time that where that cock goes in that petite body. But she screams for more like she wants have a lesson in taking a larger cock rough from behind. I don't want to hurt her so for few pushes I don't go deep but then she interupts me and waves her hand as a sign that give it deep and deeper. I do and she nods her head eyes closed looking half in pain, half in extreme pleasure. I pummel her for a few minutes until I start to fatique. I take down the pace and put her to cowgirl on top of me. She starts to slide my cock in and out with enthusiasm while I play with her small tits. I can't keep cumming no more and I put her laying on her back and start the hard fucking keeping her tinyness carefully under me. I low down the pace little and look one more time how it slides in and out slowly to get the last rock-hardness to my cock. Then I start fucking to the goal fuck fuck fuck as she moans and squeezes the sheets and turns her head from side to other with eyes closed. I frenchkiss Laura and bang I cum and get a stunning orgasm still frenchkissing and cum inside her pussy (on a condom to be correct) Oh yeah. We are still close to each other and I examine her body while calming my breath. Good girl.
Anna blond C cups 22yr old curvy body Romania.
She has nice tits, she is kind of a young wife type of girl. She has very very pretty face but someone may be disturbed with that cellulite ass she has gained. Althought Anna is a good example of healthy bodied woman with very nice curves. She is a good pleaser that can take really hard from behind. I don't have any limits with her when fucking from behind, mostly thanks to that big soft ass. It is really nice to crab that good sized ass, watch those "God's handwork" titties juggling and fuck as hard as you can. She just moans and doesn't stop until I have cummed.
Last Wednesday there was a solid 10 dutch girl in the World who was picked up and booked for a good 2 hours as soon as she arrived in the club. She than disappeared again for the rest of the night with or without a guy which I couldn't trace. She definitely did not show up until I left few miutes before the closing time. The Polish girl she was chatting around the bar did not have a clue where she was gone. Name is Maraka or Mayaka or something that sounds along the lines of that.
Blonde, curly long hair. 1.75cm plus, possibly 19 or 20 years old, a body and a smile to die for.
Anyone has a clue?Hi Mattador!
This is my first post in this forum, so I am not confinent, what info You are looking. So I just share my experience with this wonderful girl.
I was at World last Sunday evening (yesterday). There was'nt much people but this dutch girl was here. I first started talking with her girlfriend from Poland, but when I noticed Maraika, I immediately started to talking with Maraika instead. She is very cute and lovely girl, and she smiles like angel, beautiful slim body. When we went room, she started kissing and was very nice to me, like girlfriend. I extended time to 60 minutes and was willing to extend even more, but it was very late and we both little bit tired. Sadly next morning (today) I fly away from Germany so I probably don't see this wonderful girl never again. We made only just regular (she doesn't seem very experienced on this things but it doesn't matter for me).
In FKK clubs I am searching mostly GFE and Maraika is best thing what has happened to me after about 20 visits (mostly Oase, Palace, Word over two years so far). She told, that she don't like FKK-World and plans to move away to another club (sounded like Golden Times?). I very rarely find special feeling with FKK-girls but with Maraika it happened, like we were known each other before.
She is 18 year old (she talked even about her next birthday in Autumn) , less than 1. 75 (I am 1. 75 and without shoes she was shorter than me) , blonde hair, speaks english fluently, smiles often and what a wonderful smile she has!
Maybe I was just lucky but I liked this girl, treated this girl well and she deserved it.
Lucky you!
I don't need any specific info. I just wanted to confirm she was real, she did exist and I was not dreaming.
Hi Mattador!
This is my first post in this forum, so I am not confinent, what info You are looking. So I just share my experience with this wonderful girl.
I was at World last Sunday evening (yesterday). There was'nt much people but this dutch girl was here. I first started talking with her girlfriend from Poland, but when I noticed Maraika, I immediately started to talking with Maraika instead. She is very cute and lovely girl, and she smiles like angel, beautiful slim body. When we went room, she started kissing and was very nice to me, like girlfriend. I extended time to 60 minutes and was willing to extend even more, but it was very late and we both little bit tired. Sadly next morning (today) I fly away from Germany so I probably don't see this wonderful girl never again. We made only just regular (she doesn't seem very experienced on this things but it doesn't matter for me).
In FKK clubs I am searching mostly GFE and Maraika is best thing what has happened to me after about 20 visits (mostly Oase, Palace, Word over two years so far). She told, that she don't like FKK-World and plans to move away to another club (sounded like Golden Times?). I very rarely find special feeling with FKK-girls but with Maraika it happened, like we were known each other before.
She is 18 year old (she talked even about her next birthday in Autumn) , less than 1. 75 (I am 1. 75 and without shoes she was shorter than me) , blonde hair, speaks english fluently, smiles often and what a wonderful smile she has!
Maybe I was just lucky but I liked this girl, treated this girl well and she deserved it.
Hessen Bub
06-10-11, 16:01
This week line-up at World was a desaster, IMHO. The girls where also complaining (about the poor "quality" and quantity of girls). Oase was far better.
HB
This week line-up at World was a desaster, IMHO. The girls where also complaining (about the poor "quality" and quantity of girls). Oase was far better.
HB[/QUOTE]Maby its conected to the latest vegetables problem?
Hessen Bub
06-11-11, 18:28
Maby its conected to the latest vegetables problem?No, it's not, why should that be?
HB
Went to FKKW mid-week and the line-up was actually not bad. When I got in 2 guys standing outside offered to enter together and get a reduced rate for 3, I think we paid 45 Euros each. Inside the place was same as usual, except many Romanians and one girl who pretended to be Italian but could not speak the language, ha, ha. Most everyone was from Eastern Europe.
I did not use to think much of the service provided by Romanians but really could not complain based on the service I received this time. Nothing really over the top but good, honest FS and BBBJ, with beautiful blondes. Granted maybe only 30% of the girls were 7 and above and there were some really ugly ones whom one wonders how the heck they went through the selection process, but with a little time it was possible to do well, and as always beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. When I last went there about 6 months ago there were more girls and the quality was generally higher, but it may simply have been on a busier day.
Nevertheless the rates are still the same. 50 FS with many possible upsells to BBBJTC, Greek, duos or just more time. Good value if you can drive to the place, about 45 minutes from the Frankfurt airport.
Some girls are aggressive, usually the ugly ones, the majority would wait for customers to approach, or perhaps say Hello, at the bar and come seat next to you, which can be nice in between sessions.
I only went once to Oasis and did not like it, very aggressive girls that day, but maybe I should try again.
Ok: between Oase and World which one I can choose. Any recomandation?
We visited yesterday and I can report a sizeaable and nice varied lineup heavy on slim young gazelles- of course lots of Romanians but I like hot young Romanians. A stand out is Andrea, dark hair, slim but a great rack and the tiniest little buns I've ever had the pleasure to have parted, and fantastic skills, personality and affectionate attitude. A definate serial repeat, and I intend to work my way through a fairly sizeable to-do list today as well since the sunshine will be there today and will be replaced by rain and wind for the weekend. Tomorrow, two of us plan a virgin visit to Samya, more of an indoor club anyway.
Beffen
What are you looking for?
Oase is superior to World usually in terms of line-up and proximity to downtown frankfurt.
World is better in terms of free beer, large outdoor area, food availability the whole day, relaxing areas like Sauna, pool, etc.
I prefer World over Oase if I plan to spend whole day and have ample time to kill, planning to read books in between sessions, benefit from the promotions they run (e. G. 3 for 2)
I prefer Oase over World if I plan to stay only few hours, and when I don't care about food.
Ok: between Oase and World which one I can choose. Any recomandation?
I think we should come up with a decision matrix to help all of us decide easier between the 3 major clubs and 1 sister club (Mainhatten).
No car, want to spend little on transportation, want free-beer, and Ok with limited line-up, go to Mainhatten.
Or :
Have car, don't care about drinking or food, choice is important, go to Oase.
Have car, have a dedicated driver, good line-up, want free beer, will spend 11 hours, go to World,
What are you looking for?
Oase is superior to World usually in terms of line-up and proximity to downtown frankfurt.
World is better in terms of free beer, large outdoor area, food availability the whole day, relaxing areas like Sauna, pool, etc.
I prefer World over Oase if I plan to spend whole day and have ample time to kill, planning to read books in between sessions, benefit from the promotions they run (e. G. 3 for 2)
I prefer Oase over World if I plan to stay only few hours, and when I don't care about food.
Oase is superior to World usually in terms of line-up...This is a subjective judgement. My subjective judgement is the reverse.
Hessen Bub
06-21-11, 20:06
I agree that current Oase's line-up is better than World's.
HB
I agree that current Oase's line-up is better than World's.
HBTrue, but they also have more customers who grab up the girls, making it harder to get a specific one at a certain time. Everybody says how they hate the sales pitch, but if its from a girl you like then the sales pitch can easily turn into a nice long pre-room session. Example would be if the club was slow and the girl of your dreams kept hanging next to you for hours on end. Beats a strong lineup everytime.
I agree that current Oase's line-up is better than World's.
HBIn 90% of instances I would also agree, but last weekend's lineup at World was pretty good. Oase was also pretty good, but that was expected. For my personal preferences, I would have given World a slight edge in terms of lineup last weekend, but remember yo'all, I like Romanian girls.
In 90% of instances I would also agree, but last weekend's lineup at World was pretty good. Oase was also pretty good, but that was expected. For my personal preferences, I would have given World a slight edge in terms of lineup last weekend, but remember yo'all, I like Romanian girls.I agree with Henio. There is a good number of amAzing young Romanians at World right now- Brittney, Andrea, the lovely Simona come to mind, they provided mind-blowing relaxed GFE's with just the right amount of PSE thrown in. I didn't do nearly as well at Oase in the intimacy deprtment- these girls felt that "you want to come in my mouth" and "you want one hour" was suitable boudoir banter. Also, the persistent and quite frankly desperate pre-room sales pitches and the upselling once in the in the room by the girls at Oase, besides the better creature comforts and relax space at World, made for a more enjoyable experience for me in Giessen compared to BHH last weekend.
Plus, the girls at World better enjoyed the taste of my spargel-knobloch sperma :-)
By the way, we ventured to Samya on a Saturday and left by 8:30. I was not at all impressed with the beauty of the lineup.
Hessen Bub
06-25-11, 14:02
Example would be if the club was slow and the girl of your dreams kept hanging next to you for hours on end.Yeah, that's what the girls like, hanging around with the guys for free.
I do always get the session at Oase I want, no matter how full the club is. But I'll give World a chance.
HB
Yeah, that's what the girls like, hanging around with the guys for free.
HBNow would you still say 'free' if I take the girl to the room two or three times on the same day? Id say its more like a long unpaid rest between fucks. Im not forcing her to cuddle next to me and get me ready for another go around. But I will let her know if im going to be resting for a bit longer than normal.
Hessen Bub
06-25-11, 22:12
If the mix between paid sessions and unpaid rests is balanced it seems like a fair trade. .
HB
If the mix between paid sessions and unpaid rests is balanced it seems like a fair trade. .
HBI've also been in the situation, early in the week, where a favorite is working and there's hardly any customers for her to ply her trade. On a few occasions there are a handful of prospects that I wouldn't mind trying out but my favorite stays next to me for hours on end even though I tell her I'm not ready yet. Figured it out pretty quickly that she was staking claim to me since the pickings for her were slim. My girl got up to use the restroom and grab a drink on several occasions, always made sure I'd hold her seat for her, even left her stuff next to me to insure no other girl would come along.
Hessen Bub
06-26-11, 20:41
That's a completely different story. That does happen more often than ohe would think. I've spent whole days with girls because they wanted so, even so they knew I would only book them for one or two sessions that day.
HB
Jimmie Johnson
06-26-11, 23:53
I've also been in the situation, early in the week, where a favorite is working and there's hardly any customers for her to ply her trade. On a few occasions there are a handful of prospects that I wouldn't mind trying out but my favorite stays next to me for hours on end even though I tell her I'm not ready yet. Figured it out pretty quickly that she was staking claim to me since the pickings for her were slim. My girl got up to use the restroom and grab a drink on several occasions, always made sure I'd hold her seat for her, even left her stuff next to me to insure no other girl would come along.I've made friends with several of the girls and if they're bored, they will just hang out with you since there's nothing to do if it's slow.
Plus several of the girls would leave their purses with me if they go hunting for customers or go to the bathroom.
I guess it's a matter of trust and comfort level. They don't hang around just to stake a claim on me. In fact, I find it more comfortable than having to fend off girls I have no interest in seeing.
Hessen Bub
06-29-11, 15:13
Line-up yesterday was more than poor. But Katalina, the young hot 21 year old Romanian with the long black curly hair, perfect slim body. 46kg and natural set of B-size tits saved my day. Twice.
HB
Line-up yesterday was more than poor. But Katalina, the young hot 21 year old Romanian with the long black curly hair, perfect slim body. 46kg and natural set of B-size tits saved my day. Twice.
HBHey HB,
Katalina just looks smokin'! Not at all a bad session either. If she's back, then I got to consider a weekend run.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Hessen Bub
06-29-11, 17:37
If she's back,Boy she is. And she will be gone middle of July until middle of August and all September.
HB
The FKK Mainhatten site says that if you have the FKK Card (for 269 or 499 EUR) it is possible to visit both Mainhatten and World on the same day.
("Es ist auch mφglich beide Clubs am gleichen Tag besuchen!")
http://www.fkk-mainhattan.de/?menue=preise#eintrittspreise
What does it imply? Can you visit both clubs on the same day by using only one "eintritt"? Has anyone tried it?
The FKK Mainhatten site says that if you have the FKK Card (for 269 or 499 EUR) it is possible to visit both Mainhatten and World on the same day.
("Es ist auch mφglich beide Clubs am gleichen Tag besuchen!")
http://www.fkk-mainhattan.de/?menue=preise#eintrittspreise
What does it imply? Can you visit both clubs on the same day by using only one "eintritt"? Has anyone tried it?It doesn't say anywhere that one entry gets you access to both clubs. It does say 'and or' and then mentions that its possible to do both clubs in the same day but it makes no reference to one cover for two clubs on the same day.
And did you really have to ask this question twice? One time in one section is plenty.
Hessen Bub
07-06-11, 21:29
You can read it like it would get you entry two both clubs on one day and costing only 1 entry from your bonus card. Why else should they mention it?
HB
You can read it like it would get you entry two both clubs on one day and costing only 1 entry from your bonus card. Why else should they mention it?
HBI think you are right. It is a combined World / Mainhattan ticket, that is why they say "und / oder-and / or", but the remark "it is also possible to visit both clubs on the same day" indeed only makes senses if this is possible with only one day ticket. If not, this remark is abundant.
B30
I think you are right. It is a combined World / Mainhattan ticket, that is why they say "und / oder-and / or", but the remark "it is also possible to visit both clubs on the same day" indeed only makes senses if this is possible with only one day ticket. If not, this remark is abundant.
B30If I'm not mistaken, they sell two different VIP cards. One is just for Fkk World and the other can be used at both clubs (a combined card). The combined card costs a few euro's more. Guderian replied in the Mainhattan section that indicates that this can be done.
I'm going to assume that the combined VIP card is needed, hopefully Guderian or someone else can confirm.
Yes ist no problem to visit both clubs on one day with only paying one time entrance when you have one of these cards.
When you leave the firts club you have to tell the lady at the entrance that you want to visit the other club.
They will not cut the strip and with this you can enter the second club. I did it fo example last weekend when I visited first world and later the party at mainhatten.
If I'm not mistaken, they sell two different VIP cards. One is just for Fkk World and the other can be used at both clubs (a combined card). The combined card costs a few euro's more. Guderian replied in the Mainhattan section that indicates that this can be done.
I'm going to assume that the combined VIP card is needed, hopefully Guderian or someone else can confirm.Yes that is true from what I read on the website. This combined card is also called the FKK2 card "FKK² Card: Die Karte mit doppeltem Hochgenuss".
http://www.fkk-mainhattan.de/?menue=preise#eintrittspreise
Thomas Jefferson
07-07-11, 16:09
Yes that is true from what I read on the website. This combined card is also called the FKK2 card "FKK² Card: Die Karte mit doppeltem Hochgenuss".
http://www.fkk-mainhattan.de/?menue=preise#eintrittspreiseFKK² Card: Die Karte mit doppeltem Hochgenuss.
5er Karte.
(insgesamt 5 Eintritte fόare FKK-World und / oder Mainhattan) = total 5 entrance for world and / or mainhatten.
269, 00
= 53, 80
Pro Eintritt (entrance)
10er Karte.
(insgesamt 10 Eintritte fόare FKK-World und / oder Mainhattan) = total 10 entrance for world and / or mainhatten.
Es ist auch mφglich beide Clubs am gleichen Tag besuchen! (it is possible to visit both clubs the same day!)
499, 00
= 49, 90
Pro Eintritt (entrance)
Thanks to all for clarification.
I think this is a very good way for them to create trial for the sister club, and good for us to be able to visit two clubs same day to see the total line-up.
I also understand that the card is transferrable, so possible to buy one card and use it for the group. Right?
FKK² Card: Die Karte mit doppeltem Hochgenuss.
5er Karte.
(insgesamt 5 Eintritte fόare FKK-World und / oder Mainhattan) = total 5 entrance for world and / or mainhatten.
269, 00
= 53, 80
Pro Eintritt (entrance)
10er Karte.
(insgesamt 10 Eintritte fόare FKK-World und / oder Mainhattan) = total 10 entrance for world and / or mainhatten.
Es ist auch mφglich beide Clubs am gleichen Tag besuchen! (it is possible to visit both clubs the same day!)
499, 00
= 49, 90
Pro Eintritt (entrance)
I also understand that the card is transferrable, so possible to buy one card and use it for the group. Right?When you buy the card they put down your shoe size, name etc. And then you sign your name (or scrawl). So if you plan on giving it to someone else to use they'd have to take your shoe size and match your signature.
Now the cheaper 5 pass bonus card is only good for the person holding the card. Your buddy standing next to you won't be able to get the reduced admission. The more expensive ten pass will allow a guest to receive one of those entry's.
When you buy the card they put down your shoe size, name etc. And then you sign your name (or scrawl). So if you plan on giving it to someone else to use they'd have to take your shoe size and match your signature.
Now the cheaper 5 pass bonus card is only good for the person holding the card. Your buddy standing next to you won't be able to get the reduced admission. The more expensive ten pass will allow a guest to receive one of those entry's.Well, the website says it's valid for groups and whoever you want to share it with.
http://www.fkk-mainhattan.mobi/start.php?seite=preise
So, theoratically, a group of ten can go together, buy one card for 499 and all can visit both clubs same day. That's what I read from the website. No?
Hmmm, if so, it might be good idea to start a Groupon type of thing on this forum on the travel details thread! :)
And did you really have to ask this question twice? One time in one section is plenty.I think this is valuable information coming from the answers that readers of both threads should benefit from. And apparently different members responded to the same question on two different sections. Anyway, this is off topic. We got the answers.
Well, the website says it's valid for groups and whoever you want to share it with.I can't find that on the link you posted. Could you copy and paste that here?
I can't find that on the link you posted. Could you copy and paste that here?The text is not selectable on the webpage : http://www.fkk-mainhattan.mobi/start.php?seite=preise So I can't really copy paste. But It's the paragraph that starts with "die karte ist ubertragbar und damit super geignet fur Gruppen, Freunde."
FKK²-Card "Die Karte mit dem doppeltem Hochgenuss" ist in zwei Varianten erhδltlich. Wahlweise bekommt man 5 x Eintritt zu 269 oder 10 x Eintritt zu 499 . Gόltig fόare FKK-MAINHATTAN und FKK-WORLD in Pohlheim Garbenteich! Die Karte ist όbertragbar und damit super geeignet fόare Gruppen, Freunde und alle die sich eine Karte teilen mφchten!
Nudist card "the card with the double delight" is available in two variants. Either you get 5 x ticket for 269 or 10 x entry to 499 . Valid for naturist and nudist MAINHATTAN WORLD Pohlheim Garbenteich! The card is transferable and therefore suitable for super groups, friends and all who share a card you want!Found it, the link takes you to their website but the website kept throwing me back to their homepage.
I have a World VIP card but wonder if they're doing away with the single pass card? World's website says a 5 pass is 260, Mainhattan says a combined card is 269. And the 10 pass card from World is 475 compared to the combined card's cost of 499. So the question is why the two different prices? I know its because of World is only good at World but if your trying to drum up business, why charge more?
Found it, the link takes you to their website but the website kept throwing me back to their homepage.
I have a World VIP card but wonder if they're doing away with the single pass card? World's website says a 5 pass is 260, Mainhattan says a combined card is 269. And the 10 pass card from World is 475 compared to the combined card's cost of 499. So the question is why the two different prices? I know its because of World is only good at World but if your trying to drum up business, why charge more?Hey hombre de pan:
On a combined type of "naturist / nudist" 5 visit card- to pay less than 2 euro extra per discounted visit for the privilege of sharing the card with with friends AND double clubbing if you want for free- that's a bargain. Don't be so cheap. Just kidding pal.
Geez, I wish there was someone on the board to break down the cost benefit ratio between the two types of cards down to the third decimal. But alas.
Beffen- going to buy one of those new fangled cards
Hey hombre de pan:
On a combined type of "naturist / nudist" 5 visit card- to pay less than 2 euro extra per discounted visit for the privilege of sharing the card with with friends AND double clubbing if you want for free- that's a bargain. Don't be so cheap. Just kidding pal.
Beffen- going to buy one of those new fangled cardsI love the idea of double clubbing, especially for the 'reasonable' distance between the clubs. Only concern I'd have is confirming that your group can buy one of those cards and use it all at once.
hey hombre de pan:
Geez, i wish there was someone on the board to break down the cost benefit ratio between the two types of cards down to the third decimal. But alas.
A stitch in time saves nine!
:D
Some points from several days. There were many girls in relation to the men and some of the newer girls were a little down in the mouth. The girls who had been there longer had a more equable attitude.
All of the following were honest and correct in their dealings and all would be worth a try, if things click.
Giselle slim Rumanian, friend of Andrea. Very basic English, but great humour in an off the wall way. Black hair, currently quite short swept back off face. Can be a little mercurial easily pleased but also easily disappointed. The favourite of this trip.
Steffi Rumanian. Very blonde, short hair. Excellent English and excellent attitude. Has been at World for several years. Slim, but no longer thin.
Andrea the tiny Rumanian. English decent. Good attitude willing to cheerfully say Hello, even after many refusals.
Jennifer - Rumanian, curly long black hair, often with a flower in it. New impressive breast implants. Good English and good attitude
Dianne from Panama. Quite good English with strong Hispanic accent. Blonde shoulder length hair, a little wavy. Pleasant attitude, good size natural breasts, a little broader in the beam than many.
Corinne from Barcelona, Spain, previously working in Austria. She didn't seem interested in sundry discussion points about Catalonia. She didn't seem to have any interest in her Spanish homeland - may or may not be Spanish. Had only just started at World. Pleasant enough. No real distinguishing features black straight hair, strong black upper eyeliner. Adequate English
A stitch in time saves nine!
An elephant never forgets
An elephant never forgetsRemember then :)
Through last 3 months visit to FKK World, here is my dream team.
If you can recommend any good ladies whom I can add on the list, it is more than happy.
Katy.
Brown long hair Romanian, most beautiful face for me and perfect petit body.
Alina.
Short blonde Romanian, attractive smile and perfect slim body.
Luana.
Also long brown hair Romanian, very friendly and no pushy type of business style.
Mimi.
Exotic face and perfect tits Bulgarian, perfect GFE style.
Lia.
Very funny but lovely Romanian girl, attractive and powerful eyes.
I am not Romanian collector but it is a matter of the current tendency in FKK clubs.
Katy.
Brown long hair Romanian, most beautiful face for me and perfect petit body.Could you possibly elaborate (I. E. Give more information) about this girl's performance in the room. I've seen this girl for at least two years at World off and on, and have been tempted by her looks, but whenever I speak with her, I get this strange vibe like she would be a complete dead fish in the room, or at least not an outstanding GFE or even PSE. Am I wrong here? If so, I'd like to know that I'm missing more than a pretty face, nice body and opti-fuck experience.
So can you shed some more light?
Thanks,
O
Could you possibly elaborate (I. E. Give more information) about this girl's performance in the room. I've seen this girl for at least two years at World off and on, and have been tempted by her looks, but whenever I speak with her, I get this strange vibe like she would be a complete dead fish in the room, or at least not an outstanding GFE or even PSE. Am I wrong here? If so, I'd like to know that I'm missing more than a pretty face, nice body and opti-fuck experience.
So can you shed some more light?
Thanks,
OHey Ortos,
Been with her once myself. About a year and a half ago. It could very well be that she has improved (it happens) but back then she was exactly the "dead fish" that you suspect. Too bad, for she is a cute one. From what I've heard she has not improved her performance.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Hessen Bub
07-11-11, 17:56
Hey Ortos,
Been with her once myself. About a year and a half ago. It could very well be that she has improved (it happens) but back then she was exactly the "dead fish" that you suspect. Too bad, for she is a cute one. From what I've heard she has not improved her performance.
Cheers,
DedalusDito. (As Dedalus wrote)
HB
Could you possibly elaborate (I. E. Give more information) about this girl's performance in the room. I've seen this girl for at least two years at World off and on, and have been tempted by her looks, but whenever I speak with her, I get this strange vibe like she would be a complete dead fish in the room, or at least not an outstanding GFE or even PSE. Am I wrong here? If so, I'd like to know that I'm missing more than a pretty face, nice body and opti-fuck experience.
So can you shed some more light?
Thanks,
OProbably I do not have enough FKK experience to judge her politically correct.
Even dead fish is not something I should exclude.
At least, I am satisfied with her gentle GFE service.
Worth to spend 50 Euros.
Just try!
Nick The G
07-12-11, 10:37
I've seen this girl for at least two years at World off and on, and have been tempted by her looks, but whenever I speak with her, I get this strange vibe like she would be a complete dead fish in the room, or at least not an outstanding GFE or even PSE. Am I wrong here?Her star sign is Pisces, so she surely will give you a living fish performance! LOL!
Her star sign is Pisces, so she surely will give you a living fish performance! LOL!Hey Nick,
That's a good one, you old Kluegscheisser, LOL.
But tell me: If I go with a girl born in late June / early July, does this mean I will get the, you know, crabs?
On a serious note: Did you yourself ever session with this Katy (ro)? Just wondering, if you have real data on her performance.
O
Dito. (As Dedalus wrote)
HBOrtos,
I'd tend to agree with Dedalus & HB on Katy. I mistakingly saw her 2x and although not a complete "dead fish".
I would not repeat or recommend.
Nick The G
07-13-11, 10:13
On a serious note: Did you yourself ever session with this Katy (ro)? Just wondering, if you have real data on her performance.No own experience in the room with her!
No own experience in the room with her!Echt? I thought you fucked every girl there at least twice!
Well, the concessus from guys like HB, Dedalus and Fkknomad (thanks, guys, for the feedback!) seems to confirm what my radar told me: that she is not the best session.
O
GargantaProfunda
07-13-11, 19:25
If this is the same Katy I sessioned with in June (long brown hair, very slim, very pretty face, juicy red lips) I would highly recommend her. In fact, I ended up sessioning with her 3 times that afternoon and evening because she was so adorable and uninhibited in the zimmer.
Pretty much everything was on the menu DFK, BBBJ, CIM (offered did not take) , greek (offer accepted, though ended up stuck in the mud shall we say.)
I had session with two other Romanian girls that day, both of which were good also, but Katy was my favorite. As a second check her real name starts with a B.
Cheers.
Garganta
If this is the same Katy I sessioned with in June (long brown hair, very slim, very pretty face, juicy red lips) I would highly recommend her. In fact, I ended up sessioning with her 3 times that afternoon and evening because she was so adorable and uninhibited in the zimmer.
Pretty much everything was on the menu DFK, BBBJ, CIM (offered did not take) , greek (offer accepted, though ended up stuck in the mud shall we say.) Nice to get an alternative view, for sure. Interestingly, your experience seems so far removed from others. I guess it all proves the old addage: if you click with a girl, the session will be ++!
BTW: it does sound like the same Katy.
All that said: One of the "red flags" I have about this girl is that she doesn't seem to spend any significant time with prospective customers on the couch. My strong cumulative impression, from, say. 5 or 6 flirt-chats is: Katy is very much a "Zimmer right away" girl vs a willingness to really engage a man in conversation, flirtation and seduction. All this argues against a GFE. Yet a positive report makes me think again.
In the end my ship will always be steered by its rudder, which is the impression I get in the midst of intimate conversation. That's it: I find it difficult to get intimate with this girl. Therefore I am reluctant to part with 50e to find out if I am wrong.
O
GargantaProfunda
07-13-11, 20:58
I can understand the reluctance. Maybe we just clicked that day or maybe it was because I was referred by her friend who was my first session of the day (another slim Romanian, can't remember the name, Andrea I think).
It's funny though, sometimes I've had lousy sessions with girls with whom I had long conversations. Other times I've had great sessions with girls I just saw and dragged off the bedroom. Luck of the draw I suppose.
Bonne chance!
Nice to get an alternative view, for sure. Interestingly, your experience seems so far removed from others. I guess it all proves the old addage: if you click with a girl, the session will be ++!
BTW: it does sound like the same Katy.
All that said: One of the "red flags" I have about this girl is that she doesn't seem to spend any significant time with prospective customers on the couch. My strong cumulative impression, from, say. 5 or 6 flirt-chats is: Katy is very much a "Zimmer right away" girl vs a willingness to really engage a man in conversation, flirtation and seduction. All this argues against a GFE. Yet a positive report makes me think again.
In the end my ship will always be steered by its rudder, which is the impression I get in the midst of intimate conversation. That's it: I find it difficult to get intimate with this girl. Therefore I am reluctant to part with 50e to find out if I am wrong.
O
Nick The G
07-14-11, 12:04
Echt? I thought you fucked every girl there at least twice!Too much thinking! Your thoughts are driving you mad!
Actually, I am more into quality than quantity! Never felt the need to fuck every girl there (and to spend so much money BTW.)
World Day Four:
Katy from Romania was the 1st girl to approach me and waited while I went to the sauna & shower. OK for her pretty Freida Pinto looks. She said she remembered me but her time frame was off and I told her that it must have been another guy. Turns out she was a repeat visit. I only realized later with the weak BL and the whiny upsell to 60 mins. I said no and asked her how much time left and worked hard for my 1 SOG on time and on budget. Katy has lost weight on her bum & tits since last saw her. Naked she is 5'3" 95lbs 30AA 22 30 tiny girl. No repeat, No Rec.
Andrea greeted me at the bar and I had already decided yes when I saw her. At first she didn't remember me until I described my 2nd visit. I was pleased that she remembered a good time as her eyes lit up. The service was exceptional. The DFK was slow and sensuous. TS was well received as she intently watched me and caressed my back. DATY was not only allowed but craved as her pelvis involuntarily and continuously thrust up. I kept licking as she squeezed my head with her legs. I gently licked as she was coming down then ramped it up. After some BBBJ / BL we started with CG which again looked awesome with her swaying tits. She went back to BBBJ / BL then onto mish where I pounded hard to the finish. Andrea is another tiny girl but she has large Bs that look huge on her ultra petitie frame. 5' 90lbs 30B 20 26 Andrea was in no rush to leave as midway I extended to an hour and she wanted me to have full and gave me a surprisingly good backrub. Yes repeat, Yes recommended.
Romanian Sonya is also a threepeat. 1st time so so and 2nd was great. 3d so so. This girl can take a real pounding in CG, mish and doggy. I paid a 50 and said bye. Not sure I'd repeat. Best part was she wanted to session out side on a 4poster bed with only thin tassles for non existent privacy. At least it was cool and relaxing. Unlikely repeat, Yes recommended.
Duo with Iwanna & Adina. They came upto me while I was in the whirlpool relaxing before I called it a night. Adina spoke English well but not her friend Iwanna. They promised a good duo and won't take no for an answer, promising a Lesbo show, but I have my doubts. In the room there is an upsell of 50 more each for Lesbo show but I say No. They want me to CIM but I again I say no. Things could have gone downhill fast but this was the best of my 3 attempts at a duo. Each kissed well and did a nice job on Duo BBBJ / BL. Good TS and DATY with them both lying down side by side as I alternated. I fucked both and vigorously finished in Iwanna. But after they kept up with more BBBJ and BL trying to get 2 SOG after 3 already that day. No chance but it was fun trying. Iwanna (Lucy tat) Romanian straight Brunette hair tied up. 5'2" 105lbs 32B 22 33. 20 years old. Cute young look. Adina (Adriene tat) Romanian straight Brunette hair to mid back 5'4" 115lbs awesome 34C 23 34 22 years old body. Face is ok she tells me paople say she looks like Angelina. Possible repeat, Yes recommended.
World Day Five:
Rosa is 22 years old, slim sexy total package that I missed out on my last visit. We chatted briefly and I asked about services. Most girls are fawning all over you at this point. With Rosa we didn't do the advance routine. But I had to have this gorgeous Romanian and not miss my chance again. I chose her on pure instincts and had a great 1 hour.
Yes I've already repeated that day and will again, Yes recommended.
Hercules78
07-15-11, 18:02
[/QUOTE]Duo with Iwanna & Adina. They came upto me while I was in the whirlpool relaxing before I called it a night. Adina spoke English well but not her friend Iwanna. They promised a good duo and won't take no for an answer, promising a Lesbo show, but I have my doubts. In the room there is an upsell of 50 more each for Lesbo show but I say No. They want me to CIM but I again I say no. Things could have gone downhill fast but this was the best of my 3 attempts at a duo. Each kissed well and did a nice job on Duo BBBJ / BL. Good TS and DATY with them both lying down side by side as I alternated. I fucked both and vigorously finished in Iwanna.[/QUOTE]When you do a duo, do the girls require you to change condoms between them or they are ok with same condom on?
Hercules78 Yes the girls change condoms between them. Not sure if it is a requirement but general good safe practice.
World Day Four:
Andrea greeted me at the bar and I had already decided yes when I saw her. At first she didn't remember me until I described my 2nd visit. I was pleased that she remembered a good time as her eyes lit up. The service was exceptional. The DFK was slow and sensuous. TS was well received as she intently watched me and caressed my back. DATY was not only allowed but craved as her pelvis involuntarily and continuously thrust up. I kept licking as she squeezed my head with her legs. I gently licked as she was coming down then ramped it up. After some BBBJ / BL we started with CG which again looked awesome with her swaying tits. She went back to BBBJ / BL then onto mish where I pounded hard to the finish. Andrea is another tiny girl but she has large Bs that look huge on her ultra petitie frame. 5' 90lbs 30B 20 26 Andrea was in no rush to leave as midway I extended to an hour and she wanted me to have full and gave me a surprisingly good backrub. Yes repeat, Yes recommended.Yes, that Andrea sure can move her kootchie when you lick it. All that writhing and shaking and quivering- I bet it's that isometric effort she expends continually faking orgasms that keeps her ultra toned abs in tip top shape. And that tiny little bum. Someone ask her if she's around the last week of August.
Beffen
Hey Ortos,
Been with her once myself. About a year and a half ago. It could very well be that she has improved (it happens) but back then she was exactly the "dead fish" that you suspect. Too bad, for she is a cute one. From what I've heard she has not improved her performance.
Cheers,
DedalusHmmm, I will be over in a week or so. If she can do the "starfish" thing so I can just get on with the job then maybe I can give this one a go.
Jimmy K II
07-18-11, 08:38
Hi guys,
Anyone will be in World tomorrow evening?
I think, I'll arrive around 18. 00-19. 00h and stay until?
Cheers!
CU.
Jimmyk
Anyone ever stayed for the night in the 'VIP rooms' at World (100 euro)? Any feedback on that?
I'm coming up with my buddie this time and we're still thinking on what to book during our upcoming stay at World in mid-August.
Are these usually available or do I need to book them in advance?
Is it possible to accomodate 2 guests?
(This is Treble Machine if anyone remembers. Lost my old account login)
Mat the Rat
07-27-11, 22:27
Ortos,
I'd tend to agree with Dedalus & HB on Katy. I mistakingly saw her 2x and although not a complete "dead fish".
I would not repeat or recommend.Katy has been one of my regular bookings since 2 years. She has a good room performance. The only real down side of her is that she is permanently pushing for extras. Even in the room, even when you are in the middle of fucking her. This can be very annoying indeed. So, only go with her if you are prepared to go for an extra. She tries to push to CIM (+50) or even anal (+100). But for me she has the perfect face and body and if you are prepared to pay the extra you get tender, loving service. So I like her. Unfortunately a bit too much moneywise.
Avoid her if you don't want to go for extras. You get your 50 Euro session even with her if you insist but only after endless discussions.
Thanks Mat the Rat. Yes, Katy tries to push to 1hr (+50) 10 minutes into the session. As well CIM (+50) or even anal (+100).
I do really like her beautiful face but her body is almost too skinny now and the pushy money shark attitude has pushed her out of my TDAL.
Hmmm, I will be over in a week or so. If she can do the "starfish" thing so I can just get on with the job then maybe I can give this one a go.Nah. WAY too thin for your tastes. ;)
Terrible session. You would hate her even if she did have a butt like a quarter horse.
Cheers,
Dedalus
On a serious note: Did you yourself ever session with this Katy (ro)? Just wondering, if you have real data on her performance.
OI saw Katy in February and I would rate her room GFE an A+. She gives very loving and tender kisses and nothing is off the table. She does have a tight and shallow pussy though so for well endowed men not everything will be on the table. Not because she isn't willing, it's because it isn't physically possible with her being so tiny.
In the room I do feel like she is my girlfriend, but outside the room she is a little different. If you've only seen her once or never before you would think she is a room processor (which is true) so therefore she must be a dead fish. However that isn't the case. Outside the room she is a business woman and is trying to get as much business as possible so she will do a lot of approaching. She will do just enough small talk to get you into a room. For repeat clients though she will do more outside the room, especially when things are slow and there aren't more clients. In a weekend I went in a room with her 3 times. During those two days I also spent a lot of quality time with her on the sofa, eating together, massaging each other, spending time in the sauna and even taking a quick nap together in a room late Sunday night when hardly anyone was there. I wasn't a regular of hers but I spent good money that weekend on her (2 hour long sessions and one 30 min session) and she treated me pretty damn good.
So for me I would say don't expect a lot of deep convo outside the room, but inside the room she is an all star. And of you repeat with her your chances of getting something more outside the room goes up.
I saw Katy in February and I would rate her room GFE an A+. She gives very loving and tender kisses and nothing is off the table.
I wasn't a regular of hers but I spent good money that weekend on her (2 hour long sessions and one 30 min session) and she treated me pretty damn good.
So for me I would say don't expect a lot of deep convo outside the room, but inside the room she is an all star. And of you repeat with her your chances of getting something more outside the room goes up.Well that is the kind of info that is quite welcome, and respected, on this forum! Thanks for this honest apprasial. Based on what you say, I may well give this girl a serious chat up.
Just shows that everything lives under the dome of: YMMV.
O
Treble Machine
08-02-11, 07:17
Sorry for bumping my own message but I couldn't find any info on rooms at World.
Anyone ever stayed for the night in the 'VIP rooms' at World (100 euro)? Any feedback on that?
I'm coming up with my buddie this time and we're still thinking on what to book during our upcoming stay at World in mid-August.
Are these usually available or do I need to book them in advance?
Is it possible to accomodate 2 guests?
(This is Treble Machine if anyone remembers. Lost my old account login) Also anyone seen big titted Marie (de) at World lately? Would be so nice to session with her again.
Member #4243
08-05-11, 15:54
Could someone let me know if the girls at world compete with great reports recently coming in about the oase lineup. This will help me to decide as to whether or not to make the extra effort to visit world soon.
Thanks
Hessen Bub
08-06-11, 10:13
You posted the same question in the Oase board. No need for x-postings.
HB
Charlie 123
08-06-11, 19:23
Hi,
After a brief but successful visit to FKK Mainhattan in the afternoon, I trekked out to FKK World on Friday evening. It was a long journey and by the time I arrived it was 10. 30 pm. The girl on reception was snotty and disinterested in my arrival this was the first time ever that I haven't been asked whether it was my first visit. As it actually was my first visit, a quick run through of club procedures and prices would've been handy. Still, having visited a dozen or more such clubs in the last few years, I reckoned that I would be able to work things out for myself.
I changed and showered and went into the main bar area on the upper floor. I sat around for 5 minutes or so, and my first impression was that the standard of ladies present was generally first class and equivalent to Oase or Artemis. There was a good number of absolute stunners, and most of the rest were passable or better.
As I got up from the bar to have a look around the club, I bumped into a cute little blonde. I suggested that she might like to take me for a tour of the premises and she was more than happy to do so. After a quick look around the facilities, we went to the room.
Daniella is in her mid-20's, has light blond hair, a friendly girl-next door face, flawless pale white skin and smallish but nicely shaped boobs. She claims to be Spanish from Malaga and speaks only a few words of English and German. She is very friendly and cute, smiles and laughs a lot, and despite the language difficulties we connected really well and had a super session.
She doesn't really kiss just occasional light kisses of a very chaste nature, and covered BJ seems to be the order of the day. Despite these restrictions, we had a pretty intense session. Her BJ technique was skilled, slow and sensual her touch was so delicate that it was several minutes before I realised that she had slipped the condom on with her mouth. Normally I would find a condom for a BJ to be really objectionable, but she administered it so skilfully and sucked so lovingly, that I didn't really care at all.
DATY. 69, sex in all positions for 90 minutes we kept at it until I finally blew my load in her tight pussy. Price 150 Euros plus a well-deserved 20 Euro tip
I really enjoyed my time with this girl; I don't expect to revisit FKK World anytime soon, otherwise Daniella would be a definite repeat for me. Recommended, but if you are looking for a hard-core PSE then this may not be the girl for you.
She doesn't really kiss just occasional light kisses of a very chaste nature, and covered BJ seems to be the order of the day.
DATY. 69, sex in all positions for 90 minutes we kept at it until I finally blew my load in her tight pussy. Price 150 Euros plus a well-deserved 20 Euro tipI've had dozens of session at FKKW and NEVER EVER had a covered BJ. BBBJ is definitely the club standard and absolutely "the order of the day." DFK is also standard even in a mere 50e session at World.
So I don't get it: No BBBJ, no DFK and then you tip her 20e? Sure this is your choice, but? I would have thought that extending the session to 90mins.not that common an occurrance at World- would have been enough of a "tip" esp as she was holding back her A-game with all those restrictions. One wonders whether she decided not to give you the full package of performance elements simply because you asked her to show her around the club, as if she thought you were some kind of FKK newbie?
Anyway, thanks for the detailed report.
O
Charlie 123
08-07-11, 11:00
I've had dozens of session at FKKW and NEVER EVER had a covered BJ. BBBJ is definitely the club standard and absolutely "the order of the day." DFK is also standard even in a mere 50e session at World.
So I don't get it: No BBBJ, no DFK and then you tip her 20e? Sure this is your choice, but? I would have thought that extending the session to 90mins. Not that common an occurrance at World- would have been enough of a "tip" esp as she was holding back her A-game with all those restrictions. One wonders whether she decided not to give you the full package of performance elements simply because you asked her to show her around the club, as if she thought you were some kind of FKK newbie?
Anyway, thanks for the detailed report.
OI see your point. On another occasion, I might have also felt shortchanged by Daniella, but rightly or wrongly I judged that the session that I received from her was in fact her own A-game.
Although it was clear that I was a first time visitor to World, she knew well enough that I am a relatively experienced FKK punter. But your observations are challenging, and now I am starting to wonder whether indeed I might have elicited from her a less restrictive program had I been less compliant. I don't really mind either way because I really enjoyed the session at the time and that's the important criterion, but out of curiosity I'd like to know what experience other board members have had with this girl. Has anyone else been with her, and did I really get 'newbied' as Ortos suggests?
Charlie
Hi,
Daniella is in her mid-20's, has light blond hair, a friendly girl-next door face, flawless pale white skin and smallish but nicely shaped boobs. She claims to be Spanish from Malaga and speaks only a few words of English and German. She is very friendly and cute, smiles and laughs a lot, and despite the language difficulties we connected really well and had a super session.
She doesn't really kiss. And covered BJ seems to be the order of the day. Despite these restrictions, we had a pretty intense session. Her BJ technique was skilled, slow and sensual her touch was so delicate that it was several minutes before I realised that she had slipped the condom on with her mouth. Normally I would find a condom for a BJ to be really objectionable, but she administered it so skilfully and sucked so lovingly, that I didn't really care at all.
DATY. 69, sex in all positions for 90 minutes we kept at it until I finally blew my load in her tight pussy. Price 150 Euros plus a well-deserved 20 Euro tip
I really enjoyed my time with this girl; I don't expect to revisit FKK World anytime soon, otherwise Daniella would be a definite repeat for me. Recommended, but if you are looking for a hard-core PSE then this may not be the girl for you.Hey Charlie,
Many apologies for not being able to meet up on Friday. Commitments and all, you know. Would have been good too meet up with a fellow traveler.
Also unfortunate in that I would have tried to warn you away from this type of service. Glad you had a good time in spite of the restrictions, but Ortos is absolutely right about BBBJ being "de rigueur" at World. Yeah, there are occasionally a few SPs that won't do it, but those are SPs who are always best avoided. Some will try to pull such service on a Gent who they suspect is new to the game. What is particularly bad form is to not inform a guy before going to the room of such restrictions. If this was the case, then you should have mentioned it to whoever was working the front desk. They'd make note of it and the girl would certainly be put under a watchful eye.
I won't go deep into the issue of tipping since enough has been stated in the past about how it is a bad practise, and how it negatively messes with the general service and price structure in the FKKs. However again, I would have to agree with Ortos that tipping a girl for a no-kissing, cover BJ session was. Well unfortunate for both you and for the overall service standards at FKKW. The more things like that happen, the more certain girls think that they can get away with it. Reminds me a bit of some girls at Oase who try and charge Asian men 100 to 150 for a normal 30 minute session. Yes, I've been at the bar and seen it. In fact, I spoke once with Madalina (cute, blonde Romy, formerly FKKW, now at Oase) who I have had good sessions with in the past. Whenever I don't feel like having a session with her, I remind her of the time I saw her over charge an Asian guy 150 EUR for a 30 minute session, and she gets an embarrassed look and falls silent.
Best to stick to the standard house prices. If a gal delivers the goods in the room, the extend the session, opt for a legitimate extra, or do a repeat. Best way to "tip" in the clubs.
Hope we can meet up on your next jaunt through F'furt. Also I'll be in Berlin a number of times in the coming months. Drop me a PM and thanks for the write-ups!
Cheers,
Dedalus
Hi,
After a brief but successful visit to FKK Mainhattan in the afternoon, I trekked out to FKK World on Friday evening.How much did you spend on entrance to both clubs?
Hessen Bub
08-07-11, 14:03
How much did you spend on entrance to both clubs?You know the prices. If you have an FKK2 Card (5 or 10 doesn't matter) you can visit both clubs on one day. They call the other club when you leave, you keep your wristband. Very easy. Done it.
HB
Charlie 123
08-07-11, 14:40
How much did you spend on entrance to both clubs?I think, from memory, that it was 55euro for Mainhattan and 65 for World. I asked whether I would get a concession for World as it is a sister club of Mainhattan, but apparently that only applies to holders of one of their multi-entry passes.
Charlie 123
08-07-11, 15:02
Hi Dedalus.
Sorry you couldn't make it. It would've been nice to have met upi and I would have appreciated the opportunity to have been guided towards some of the most reliable SP's in the club.
I am beginning now to suspect that indeed Daniella may have provided me with a reduced-spec newbie service. Purely out of curiosity, I'd really now like to know whether other punters have received from her a similarly restricted program or if she truly did shortchange me. Surely someone on this board has sessioned with her and can illuminate?
I still stand by my previous assertion nonetheless that I really enjoyed the session with this girl. It's true that at my 'home club' of Artemis I wouldn't countenance a covered BJ under any circumstances, but it didn't feel like a problem at the time, especially as it was several minutes before I even noticed that she had surrepticiously administered the gummi.
The issue about tipping is a difficult one. At Artemis I tip regularly. About 50% of the time I would guess, and almost always with my regular girls. As it happens, I reckon I get that money back in full from my regs with both superior service next time round and in terms of 'free minutes' when sessions sometimes go a few minutes over the half-hour mark, but that's not my motivation for doing it. However, I can understand others find it frustrating if punters are tipping for a level of service that they themselves consider to be either unexceptional or even below the appropriate standard for that establishment, thereby setting a precedent that might serve to lower overall standards of service. It's a tricky one.
Dedalus. I note that you're coming to Berlin in the coming months. I am at Artemis once or twice a week, so please pm me when you know your dates and I'd be delighted to meet up.
Best.
Charlie
I am beginning now to suspect that indeed Daniella may have provided me with a reduced-spec newbie service. Purely out of curiosity, I'd really now like to know whether other punters have received from her a similarly restricted program or if she truly did shortchange me. Surely someone on this board has sessioned with her and can illuminate?Daniella is a very sweet girl. No restrictions that I can remember. She might have asked if I wanted CBJ, but memory fails me.
The issue about tipping is quite easy. You do it in the form of buying more time and / or services. This has been stated over and over again in the forum.
Hi Dedalus.
I am beginning now to suspect that indeed Daniella may have provided me with a reduced-spec newbie service.
At Artemis I tip regularly. About 50% of the time I would guess, and almost always with my regular girls.
I suspect there may be a connection between these two statements. People who tip ( when visiting non-tipping cultures) always seem to do worse, whilst thinking they are doing better. They get secretly worse service by the people they tip because the person being tipped thinks the tipper is soft and an easy mark and they annoy the locals.
When in the US tipping is essential and your service levels will be non-existant next time you come back, so I always tip the correct amount. I never tip in FKK because I have seen the negative results.
As it happens, I reckon I get that money back in full from my regs with both superior service next time round and in terms of 'free minutes' when sessions sometimes go a few minutes over the half-hour mark,
I bet you don't! I got 40 minutes for 50 Euros on Thursday. All I did was let her have a red-bull from some drinks token cards and she was more than happy and hung around with me for a bit after the session. As regards for service, most people get good service most of the time. Sometimes great service. Tippers usually don't. But since we are never a fly on the wall in each other's rooms, who is to say what is good and what is bad. I have to admit, it is a very personal thing.
I suggest you try stopping the tips and see if anything varies (but don't go back to yuor regulars or any girls your regulars have told to expect a tip from). Then maybe if you just feel the need to assuage guilt feelings about not giving extra money to people who have merely done their job well, then think of something like a bit extra time, sending them for a drink and so on.
Of course, I am telling you to abandon yuor culture and that never goes down well. I hate 15% of my bill going to the waitress in the US just because the bastard who employs her will not add the service charge (or the sales tax) to the menu, but I do it graciously, because thats the way it works there. In FKK tipping does NOT work.
Angus Magee
08-08-11, 11:38
A lot of guys ask me about tipping. I personally am not a hard ass about it. I always tell them in general, do not tip. Go extra time with the girls or add extras. This is the best course of action. However I also recognise that sometimes a girl seems to go all out, or those little "love" neurotransmitters kick in, and a guy wants to just throw in a little extra. In these cases I say-go ahead and do it but do not mention it on the forums. It is considered bad form. I myself do not tip for all the reason you guys suggest.
With regard to Charlie-I am not sure if you guys realize just how regular Charlie is with his regular Artemis girls. Thus I would say his is a special case. I hope I am not giving the game away, Charlie, when I say that his Artemis visits are almost bi-weekly affairs. Sometimes more I understand. So in this case I think he gets a pass for his tipping them. I am not sure I can say he gets over all better service as a result but when I see him there he always does seem to have a grin on his face so who is to really say.
The only mistake, I feel, is thinking that other clubs are like Artemis. One does have to be on one's toes when venturing away from well trodden territory. From his review though it seems to me that Charlie was pretty well satisfied with the session so why look for something to complain about?
AM
A lot of guys ask me about tipping. I personally am not a hard ass about it. I always tell them in general, do not tip. Go extra time with the girls or add extras.
With regard to Charlie-I am not sure if you guys realize just how regular Charlie is with his regular Artemis girls. Thus I would say his is a special case. I hope I am not giving the game away, Charlie, when I say that his Artemis visits are almost bi-weekly affairs.
The only mistake, I feel, is thinking that other clubs are like Artemis. One does have to be on one's toes when venturing away from well trodden territory. From his review though it seems to me that Charlie was pretty well satisfied with the session so why look for something to complain about?
AMHey Man,
The last thing I want is this to be a mass criticism of Charlie. I was (and am) looking forward to making his acquaintance (another time, I hope) and only a surprise obligation at home kept me from hitting FKKW that day.
Obviously anyone can do with their bread whatever they feel they have to do and I personally don't sneer at the guy who decides to help an SP get well for giving a solid room performance.
I just have a problem with how it is often done.
Like it or not, this hobby is very different from how it was 7 to 10 years ago in terms of service-standards and how that service was rewarded. Lot's of reasons for this: Too many clubs, a different service attitude promoted by certain clicks of girls, etc. I've often wondered how a girl like Lucia at Oase can stay in business. She has next to no repeat customers and she gets turned away more often than a Jehovah's Witness selling their magazines. I've been with her once so I know the level of service she provides, which is marginal at best. But she does snow enough "tourists" and "first-timers" into the room who have no idea that she is a worthless lay. What's more I've seen her half-heatedly finish off some guy in the Kino, take him to the lockers and then demand a tip. What's worse is that she gets it.
The girl has to hustle to make her dough. Whereas, back when she was cute, if she had given me good service, then not only would I have been a regular of hers, but I would have given her recommendations and praises to every guy with whom I walked through Oase's door.
The high paced hustle that she deals with to make ends meet has taken it's toll on her appearance, whereas girls like Judith, Lena Gabriella (Oase) , Cindy, Daria (World) , who developed and cultivated regular clients through good service still have keep their looks together and seem much less stressed at work.
My point with all of this is that it doesn't seem to me that rewarding substandard service (and a non-kissing, covered BJ session would certainly qualify) with a tip does the overall scene any real favors.
I don't get to Artemis that often, but I do drop in on the place whenever work takes me to B-Town. I've never tipped there either. Truth is, at 60 EUR per half hour, I tend to think that I'm already granting a ten EUR tip each time I go to the room with a girl. Certainly the Hessen scene is a bit different from Artemis, even though a good number of former GT, FKKW and Oase girls now click their heels in Berlin. At Artemis I've never had a girl try to snooker me on the time in room. Always thought that the 60/30 rate might play a bit of a role there.
But I tend to agree with Mikey about being sceptical that tipping gets you or anyone a grace period beyond the half-hour mark. I've lost count of the times I have finished a session in 25 or 50 minutes with some regs of mine and waited an extra 10 minutes or so while they smoked. I've even sneaked a sweaty, back-scratchin', hard-humpin' session a tiny bit past the 30 minute mark (five minutes or so) and while I'd certainly not argue if a gal charged me 100 for the session, the smart ones know that I'll be back for a rematch if they don't. When it comes to regulars, this is MUCH more valuable to them than the price of a full hour or a one time tip. I'm quite confident that the same is true for regulars at Artemis.
Hey, we all have our ways. It's certainly worth a discussion over that beer or vodka that we talked about. B-town is possible for me in October (not yet certain) and in mid November. When all the dates are solidified, then I'll send you some notice.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Personal viewpoint. One point rarely made is that some of the girls will brag to other girls about their ability to upsell and get tips, creating an expectation that clients should tip, and that a "tip" is something that the girls have a right to expect and to wring out of clients. The girls who really deserve tipping (for giving extra time, building up a base of repeat clients etc) will almost never brag about it.
In general then tipping contributes towards a more ruthless mercenary attitude (as opposed to the appropriate wish of girls to earn as much as possible by treating clients with respect and giving good service)
My personal response to girls trying to upsell/ask for tips is to immediately and extremely clearly refuse all extras, tips, and extensions of time. Sometimes, if the girl's reaction to this was not to downgrade her service or attitude, I might then, at my leisure and in my own time, take a second and third or fourth session with the girl - at which point the roles have changed and they are happy to get the normal rates. Then and only then will I give a tip if I decide I have got something extra.
Reminds me again to recommend trying Giselle - mentioned in earlier report. Probably YMMV, and still learning, but an idiosyncratic approach to work
ZimmerBaby
08-08-11, 16:32
Gentlemen, please differentiate between quantitative versus qualitative measurements regarding this matter. This is about emotions, not science.
Gentlemen, please differentiate between quantitative versus qualitative measurements regarding this matter. This is about emotions, not science.Very well. In the course of well over a decade of visiting German clubs and experiencing a rather high quantity of paid-sex sessions, I cannot think of an instance when the quality of a session has suffered because I failed to tip a gal.
Good enough?
Cheers,
Dedalus
Charlie 123
08-08-11, 20:10
FFS!
What have I started here?
All I did was mention, in the course of reporting my debut visit to FKK World, that I had a really enjoyable session with Daniella and that I gave her 20E as a token of my appreciation. I didn't judge that she short-changed me despite the covered BJ and absence of DFK and, with respect, mine was the only opinion that mattered at the time.
I have been with, at a rough guess. 150 to 200 women in various FKK clubs around Germany and of those women there are probably 2 dozen with whom I have been to the room 10 times or more. I don't have any absolute method of determining the level of service I get from the girls as compared to anyone else. I do however have a few friends in the hobby with whom I have had extensive chats online and in clubs, and I have good reason to suppose that I get just as good treatment from my ladies as the next guy and in many cases somewhat better.
I don't believe that this is because I tip them, or because I do extended sessions / extras. I certainly can't accept that, as a tipper, I am seen as a 'mark' and get a lesser level of service, as has been suggested today. Quite simply, I see it like this. I am generally nice, friendly, respectful and generous to the girls. I think that they appreciate it and that I get rewarded for my good-natured behaviour to them. As I say, I have no mechanism to prove this assertion, but I strongly believe it to be true. There are two girls at Artemis who have, quite separately, asked me to meet up with them outside the club for sex. These offers were 'no charge' invitations. I have other evidence I could submit in support of my belief that the girls actually quite like me as an individual that I can't post here for reasons of discretion.
Those board members who know me personally will, I am sure, confirm that I am very far from a naive John who is in the habit of getting suckered by hookers. I am as pragmatic about the realities of this hobby as anyone on this board, I assure you.
The reason why I am going into this detailed explanation of the way that I conduct myself is because I truly think that those critics who are slamming the practice of tipping and complaining that it leads to bad service have got it wrong. Likewise, anyone who reckons that 10e at the end of the session is going to make a whole lot of difference to the way the girl behaves towards him next time is also mistaken. The truth of the matter as I see it is as follows:-
A) The bad SP's will always cut corners regardless of any tip she might receive from you.
Be) If a girl finds a punter to be objectionable in the way he treats her in the bedroom then she will deny him her A-game next time whether or not he 'throws her a fish' at the end of the session.
See) These girls have sex with many hundreds of men every year. Most girls remember most sessions. I am constantly astounded by their powers of recollection. They don't view all their customers alike. Some they enjoy sessioning with much more than others. And they don't forget which is which.
The) In 90% of cases, the level of service, and more importantly the degree of intimacy that a girl will exhibit, is much more a function of how she feels about the customer than the width of his wallet. The self-proclaimed realists and cynics on this board will no doubt sneer at this suggestion, but it is something I have learned 'from the horse's mouth' having had in the past more than one long-term relationship with (ex) working girls.
When I have a bum session with a girl, which happens maybe 10% of the time, my first concern is always to examine what I might have done to contribute to the disaster. Did I make her uncomfortable? Was it merely an absence of inter-personal chemistry (which, by the way, I believe to be the single greatest factor in the quality of any sexual experience)? Is she just a shark, and should I have spotted the signs earlier?
'Did some other bastard ruin it for me by previously indulging her lazy ass with his cash? ' is never one of my considerations.
I am generally happy to indulge in any well-intended debate about this fascinating hobby of ours, and I am more than open to constructive criticism of my behaviour in the field. Having said that, I detect a certain intransigence in the views propounded by one or two of the chaps who have contributed to this discussion, together with a certain faux-cynicism that derives IMHO more from macho attitudes than any deep understanding of the way relations between men and women in sex clubs truly function in reality. As such, this is my last word on the subject other than to wish everybody well with their own methods and approaches.
Best.
Charlie
FFS!
What have I started here?
The) In 90% of cases, the level of service, and more importantly the degree of intimacy that a girl will exhibit, is much more a function of how she feels about the customer than the width of his wallet. The self-proclaimed realists and cynics on this board will no doubt sneer at this suggestion, but it is something I have learned 'from the horse's mouth' having had in the past more than one long-term relationship with (ex) working girls.
Best.
CharlieYeah, that's probably me. There are quite a few guys on this board who would certainly agree with such an assessment of yours truly.
It's certainly an old, if not always well-discussed topic. Can't say that I fall in line with all of your statements, especially about your perceptions with regards to these girls and their degrees of intimacy. I won't say that it never happens. I will say that it happens less often than we may hope or tell ourselves. FWIW, I've also heard quite a bit from quite a variety of SPs and over a pretty long time frame. Pretty rare that I have met, even from the most well meaning and passionate working gal, one who considers us all that much more than cash-cows. Even my buddy Henio, who racks up Wilt Chamberlain-type numbers in joy houses the world over and scores some pretty quality intimacy with a high quantity of SPs, would probably admit that what he can potentially offer these gals (beyond his fair to midland looks and rakish charms) don't hurt his popularity.
Also, I can tell you that I've been observing and taking part in D'land's club scene since 97. I've seen the scene make the transition from smaller clubs like Herne, Bernd's and the Red Carpets to mid-size establishments like Babylon, Wiago, PHG and eventually to the "Fick Fabriken" like Oase, Atlantis, World GT and a host of others. I've seen the overall make-up of club SPs transition from predominately German,"aufgepδppelt" with the occasional Polish, Czech or Russian gal, to the period when the Bulgarians, Baltics, Croats, Hungarians and Russians held sway, to the arrival of the Romanian bus. I've also watched the scene transition from a playground used by predominately locals (and a few Euro neighbors) to a playing field that is pretty sex-tourist dominated (praise be to the Internet Gods!)
The only reason that my monger resume has any value at all is that when I mention that tipping has a negative effect on overall service standards, it's not a conclusion that I arrived at from reading Internet boards.
I hope to meet at some point exchange notes and discuss this and other topics in person. Also one shouldn't think that this is a slam-fest. It's actually a pretty valid topic worthy of thoughtful discourse.
Cheers,
Dedalus
FFS!
What have I started here?Thanks for reporting Charlie 123. Not enough Senior Members like yourself reporting on this forum! And god knows this forum needs some decent reports / information in place of the usual small talk and begrudgery. So you like to tip for good performance! Shame, shame, go to the naughty corner! Makes me laugh that guys are travelling long distance, even flying into FKK-Land from all parts of the globe, accross seas and oceans and then these same guys go appapletic when a monger gives some Spanish hooker (probably from Bucharest) an extra 10 for what he perceives to be good service. Don't ya know that you are endangering the entire economic structure of the Western World by doing this! :D
Good on ya for bothering to report at all and for the honest nature of your report. Keep up the good work.
CD
Thanks for reporting Charlie 123. Not enough Senior Members like yourself reporting on this forum! And god knows this forum needs some decent reports / information in place of the usual small talk and begrudgery. So you like to tip for good performance! Shame, shame, go to the naughty corner! Makes me laugh that guys are travelling long distance, even flying into FKK-Land from all parts of the globe, accross seas and oceans and then these same guys go appapletic when a monger gives some Spanish hooker (probably from Bucharest) an extra 10 for what he perceives to be good service. Don't ya know that you are endangering the entire economic structure of the Western World by doing this! .
Good on ya for bothering to report at all and for the honest nature of your report. Keep up the good work.
CDMan, and I've been called snarky.
Dan, pretty much everyone has thanked and complimented Charlie on his reporting. His report brings up an interesting and important topic, which has been fairly and respectfully discussed and commented on.
Not really sure what your problem is here.
Best,
Dedalus
As someone who has been going to the clubs as long as Ded, although much less frequently, I would like to add my 2 cents. I agree with most of what Ded said. When I was first starting out, I tipped more thinking I would get more recognition from the girls. It seemed that it was hard to catch the girls most in demand. I assumed that a tip would give me a better shot at a session the next time I was at the club. In reality, it makes no difference. But it may be a way of satisfying your ego. Unless you tip a really bit amount (foolish in my opinion) , you don't get much difference in service or recognition. What it does is set up a precedence where you are expected to tip every time! Girls that are service oriented, like sex, or like you is what makes the difference. It may actually become a pain if a girl expects you to session with her every time you are at the club.
That being said, I still occassionlly tip, but almost always because a girl has done something above the normal. For example, if a girl spends a lot of time on the couch with me with no expectation of a session or if we go over the time without a demand for more money, I figure she has already earned her tip. It is more a recognition of her fairness than an expectation of anything in the future.
Charlie 123
08-09-11, 09:07
I hope to meet at some point exchange notes and discuss this and other topics in person. Also one shouldn't think that this is a slam-fest. It's actually a pretty valid topic worthy of thoughtful discourse.
Cheers,
DedalusLooking forward to meeting up in the future to discuss this and other topics. I certainly accept that this is no 'slam-fest' and I'm more than happy to engage in hearty debate about any and all of the issues and practices of this hobby.
Makes me laugh that guys are travelling long distance, even flying into FKK-Land from all parts of the globe, accross seas and oceans and then these same guys go appapletic when a monger gives some Spanish hooker (probably from Bucharest) an extra 10 for what he perceives to be good service. Don't ya know that you are endangering the entire economic structure of the Western World by doing this! .
CDLOL! As one might expect, I wholeheartedly agree with this perspective.
That being said, I still occassionlly tip, but almost always because a girl has done something above the normal. For example, if a girl spends a lot of time on the couch with me with no expectation of a session or if we go over the time without a demand for more money, I figure she has already earned her tip. It is more a recognition of her fairness than an expectation of anything in the future.I agree with this too. However, sometimes for me it's just a simple way of saying 'thank you' to a girl who's given me a good time. The 10e always means a whole lot more to her than to me and I usually don't really care whether that money returns to me in the form of free services in the future. A tip is a tip. An investment is something else.
Best wishes to all,
Charlie
Very well. In the course of well over a decade of visiting German clubs and experiencing a rather high quantity of paid-sex sessions, I cannot think of an instance when the quality of a session has suffered because I failed to tip a gal.
Good enough?
Cheers,
DedalusI agree. For my two cents I say see Palace if you want to see what over tipping can do. A single man or a few men isn't going to turn a place into a shark tank, but if tipping becomes widespread then you betcha prices will inflate and services will diminish. People that tip will get shit by other guys because we need to contain the contagion before the cancer becomes wide spread. We don't want newbies reading about it and thinking it's the norm so people here will point it out.
In my young FKK career I've been sharked and I've had two GFE experiences that were off the charts. I paid extra money just to have lackluster performances, but for my true GFE I paid them the going rate and rewarded them with multiple sessions during the weekend. They were so happy that I chose to see them multiple times that they went out of there way to treat me exceptionally great inside the room and outside the room. For me I feel that is the right way to reward a girl. It's been a painful lesson for me but I've learned giving out extra cash doesn't get me anything better.
For the record. I think everybody, contributing seriously to this subject, has made valid and helpful points. I don't see why there needs to be some kind of warfare between two opposing viewpoints. The whole point of a debate is to bring out the complexity of the subject.
Charlie - dead right - the only opinion that counts in a session is the person paying. I tried to bring out some of the other elements.
If Capt Dan, you consider my points were worthy of sarcasm, then I am sorry - you may not be aware that one half of this posting pair used very happily and commonly to receive tips of significant size, so our comments on the dangers of tipping are perhaps from a different perspective to the people you refer to so witheringly .
So - tip if you want. This is a debate not a Stalinist institution. Sometimes I do tip while being aware of the dangers and the benefits.
Everybody - viel spass
For the record. I think everybody, contributing seriously to this subject, has made valid and helpful points. I don't see why there needs to be some kind of warfare between two opposing viewpoints. The whole point of a debate is to bring out the complexity of the subject.
Charlie. Dead right. The only opinion that counts in a session is the person paying. I tried to bring out some of the other elements.
If Capt Dan, you consider my points were worthy of sarcasm, then I am sorry. You may not be aware that one half of this posting pair used very happily and commonly to receive tips of significant size, so our comments on the dangers of tipping are perhaps from a different perspective to the people you refer to so witheringly.
So. Tip if you want. This is a debate not a Stalinist institution. Sometimes I do tip while being aware of the dangers and the benefits.
Everybody. Viel spassThe problem most tipping guys don't see is there effect on the rest of the guys. It's a free country and you can do whatever you want but if you see anomosity or the like it's because all this tipping is having an affect on the rest of us.
Us not tipping will not have effects with your sessions, but your tipping will have an effect to us eventually. It's like oil speculating. One person buying oil commodities won't have negative effects but if everyone is buying it the price of gas rises and we all have to pay more. The oil speculators individually think there is nothing wrong because they need to get there's too, but still they are part of the problem and sticking their middle finger out to the rest of us that like the prices we feel is reasonable.
All we're doing is showing you how to reward while not exasperating the problem of increased prices and lowered service levels. You don't have to agree and quite frankly you won't. But for newbies especially we want to make sure they are doing it properly.
PacificRim
08-09-11, 18:22
The most recent New York Times magazine had an article that rated quality of service and the standard tip in 24 countries. Granted that the focus was tourist services and not P4P, but I see no reason why the service a monger receives would be any different. In short, there was no relationship, either direct or inverse, between tipping and service. Japan, where the standard tip is zero, had the highest service rating, but Canada, where the standard tip is 16, wasn't far behind with the 3d highest service rating.
Of course the expectations of the service provider are affected by the standard tipping practice. Servers in restaurants in the US, for example, are greatly offended if they do not receive an adequate tip irrespective of the level of service. By contrast the article mentioned that a Japanese server refused any gratuity even for exceptional service.
Make of this what you will, but if the goal is exceptional service it wouldn't appear that tipping fosters that goal.
Bluat. Totally agree. Tipping can encourage a bad attitude (see yesterday's post where we argue strongly that tipping has bad general effects as well as some good individual level ones). But as Charlie says, in the end it is up to each of us to decide for ourselves when and when not to tip.
Again for the record. Tips are often not just 10 or 20E but go up to 50 or 100 (sometimes justifiably in return for many hours spent free over time with a client). Some girls know that other girls get this and then ask for these large "tips" as of right, without giving any extra free service. So. Maybe it's right to tip soem girls but not others
Bluat. Totally agree. Tipping can encourage a bad attitude (see yesterday's post where we argue strongly that tipping has bad general effects as well as some good individual level ones). But as Charlie says, in the end it is up to each of us to decide for ourselves when and when not to tip.
Again for the record. Tips are often not just 10 or 20E but go up to 50 or 100 (sometimes justifiably in return for many hours spent free over time with a client). Some girls know that other girls get this and then ask for these large "tips" as of right, without giving any extra free service. So. Maybe it's right to tip soem girls but not othersYou're right it is all up to each individual, but the decision will have a direct affect. One can help out fellow mongers and stick to the rules, or just help themselves and the girls by tipping them. I guess if someone picks the later don't expect a fellow monger to embrace it. We all want the same thing which is great service. For some money is no object so a tip here and there or inflated prices isn't going to phase them, but from the rest of us we ask that please think about the rest of us mongers as well. There are proven alternatives to rewarding a girl and getting great service. We just wish you did it that way instead since it's a better compromise between each extremes of the P4P spectrum.
What have I started here?Have to ask you since Angus mentioned in the Artemis thread that your a regular at that club, are you German? You seem shocked that guys post negative comments to your habit of tipping. I think the comments to your recent reports where you mentioned tipping the girls was very civil. To get a true reading you might want to ask about tipping the girls on the german forums. Just a simple questions of 'how much should I tip' would get you loads of 'advice'.
In the FKK FAQ section, a guideline is laid out.
There is no need to discuss pricing, the club has a clear pricelist. Mainly there is a price for time (between 25/20min till 50/30min depending the clubs). Standard service for this price is full service and may include kissing and even BBBJ. Except for specific service, don't negotiate pricing and also don't tip. If you want to reward a girl, go for an extended time or for another session. Quality of service is usually excellent. Still, service will vary from girl to girl. Not all girls allow fingering, some only allow fingering of the pussy, some want extra for fingering, some want to charge anal price for fingering of the anus, and some will let you finger every hole deeply for no extra fee. Same for kissing. Some will do DFK, some only do light kissing, and some will push their tongue down into your stomach and taste your cornflakes. Regarding rimming, many dont allow it, some want extra, some charge anal prices. CIM is always extra, except for Bernds. Anal is always extra but not always available, it must been agreed before. As a rule, multi cums are not allowed within half hour session, and is supposed to go only for extended time. Needless to say, condoms are mandatory for sex and anal.
Going to World soon, and would really appreciate a few tips of a different nature.
Thanks for the FKKW and other reports, Charlie. May be in Berlin soon, hope to meet up again. (Still smiling at the thought of your being German).
Toscana, who gave his first (rare) FKK tip in August today: EUR 5 after an hour's spectacular entertainment. Girl was delighted.
Thanks guys for the laughs and giggles regarding Charlie 123 and the astonishingly disgraceful 10 tip :(
However as this is the FKK World thread, just wondering if by any chance anyone has any useful info regarding FKK World?
A report or a line up list would be greatly appreciated. Perhaps best not to mention in your trip report that you left a tip ;)
CD
Going to World soon, and would really appreciate a few tips of a different nature.Hey Tosc,
Got a feeling that you would really dig Catalina. Firstly she seriously brings it home in the looks department. Also she seems to deliver the bedroom goods in high style for the discriminating Gent. Myself, FKK Lover and ole' HB number among her happy and satisfied clients.
Only problem is that she might be on break at the moment. You know who probably has the goods on her working / vacation schedule.
Also, I'm a big fan of Eva, the tall Romy with the back-tat about "himmlische Bewertung". She's a more than solid session if one can get past a few barriers. She hates this job and puts up some pretty high walls, but if you have the charm to knock a few of those down, she is a total winner. Sweet girl too.
I haven't seem her in a while, but Simona (the somewhat older version) is about as close to a sure thing as one can get. I got a feeling you would like her.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Charlie 123
08-10-11, 00:04
Have to ask you since Angus mentioned in the Artemis thread that your a regular at that club, are you German? You seem shocked that guys post negative comments to your habit of tipping. I think the comments to your recent reports where you mentioned tipping the girls was very civil. To get a true reading you might want to ask about tipping the girls on the german forums. Just a simple questions of 'how much should I tip' would get you loads of 'advice'.Hi Breadman,
No, I am English. Arguably 'very English'. I'm a fraction disappointed that my standard of literacy caused you to imagine that I am other than a native speaker.
I'm not shocked that some of the chaps have criticised my habit of tipping, and I agree that the comments were largely civil in nature. I have no problem with the manner of the debate. I am just suprised that the practice of tipping causes so much consternation amongst my esteemed fellow mongers. Additionally, I accept that for the Germans, the practice is even more frowned upon than amongst us Anglos.
I understand the perspective of the objectors, that tipping serves to induce lower levels of general service. I just don't think that it is necessarily true. I would counter that tipping, appropriately administered, is just as likely to promote good service as to dissuade it. But I repeat what I said earlier, that I neither do it to regulate nor to destroy the mongering economy. I do it when I feel that a girl has given me a good time as a simple and effective way of saying 'thank-you'.
Best,
Charlie
To compensate for my contribution to the off topic of tipping, I recommend trying Giselle (ask black haired Andrea to point her out). Slightly built Rumanian, limited English, slightly off centre eye focus. She is mercurial and idiosyncratic, but willing to spend time in the main room and very entertaining in a perhaps unintentional way. In room is very correct, good fun, and will improve more with time. I even gave her a small tip after the sixth session (against my own arguments) as she had spent so much unpaid time with me
Hessen Bub
08-10-11, 10:50
I tipped a girl with 10 EUR yesterday after a one hour session. Hit me!
HB
I tipped a girl with 10 EUR yesterday after a one hour session. Hit me!
HBGladly! Just wait a few weeks. ;)
Actually I may just have Catalina do it for me.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Like it or not, this hobby is very different from how it was 7 to 10 years ago in terms of service-standards and how that service was rewarded. Lot's of reasons for this: Too many clubs, a different service attitude promoted by certain clicks of girls, etc. I've often wondered how a girl like Lucia at Oase can stay in business. She has next to no repeat customers and she gets turned away more often than a Jehovah's Witness selling their magazines. I've been with her once so I know the level of service she provides, which is marginal at best. But she does snow enough "tourists" and "first-timers" into the room who have no idea that she is a worthless lay. What's more I've seen her half-heatedly finish off some guy in the Kino, take him to the lockers and then demand a tip. What's worse is that she gets it.
The girl has to hustle to make her dough. Whereas, back when she was cute, if she had given me good service, then not only would I have been a regular of hers, but I would have given her recommendations and praises to every guy with whom I walked through Oase's door.
The high paced hustle that she deals with to make ends meet has taken it's toll on her appearance, whereas girls like Judith, Lena Gabriella (Oase) , Cindy, Daria (World) , who developed and cultivated regular clients through good service still have keep their looks together and seem much less stressed at work.Great stuff here, Dedalus. While I'm sure a girl appreciates a 10 tip, I find there's a much better way of tipping. Extend the session. I've been known to spend 2-3 hours with Daria over the course of a single day. The same for Heidi at Oase. Between the two of them, I'd bet they account for 70% of my hobby budget on my recent trips over.
Not only does their level of service enhance their haul, but I get tipped too. Neither pays a ton of attention to the clock and I (and my fingers) get plenty of couch time as well.
Vito Corleone
08-10-11, 17:07
I gave this one guy 30 after his wonderful showcase in the kino. He was banging this non responsive babe mish while doing one handed push-ups! That was impressive! I tip a Romy 5E everytime they mention "I'm Italian!" Always makes me laugh. I give Lucia 5 just to stay away! I give the old hag who hangs out@the reception@Palace a tip for helping me lose weight. I run to the WC & barf everytime time I see her.
I used to tip 20-30 euro to an oddball gent I found quite entertaining! He used to walk around the club all day asking every girl questions pretending to be really cool. Basically a goofy guy laughing@his own corny jokes acting like Mr. Bean / Austin Powers.
I tipped a girl with 10 EUR yesterday after a one hour session. Hit me!
HBYesterday a German man tipped ME 4euros! Und er kommt aus Dresden! Wow!
O
I understand the perspective of the objectors, that tipping serves to induce lower levels of general service. I just don't think that it is necessarily true. I would counter that tipping, appropriately administered, is just as likely to promote good service as to dissuade it. But I repeat what I said earlier, that I neither do it to regulate nor to destroy the mongering economy. I do it when I feel that a girl has given me a good time as a simple and effective way of saying 'thank-you'.
Best,
CharlieIts been brought up here before about repeating with girls and how sometimes the service starts to degrade. The girl just doesn't perform as she did the first couple of times. I tip by doing repeats with the girl, sometimes several in the same day. If the service starts to drop then I quit repeating with her. What would you do if you've been tipping this girl 20 euro's after every visit and on the last visit the service was shoddy? You've set precedent in her mind that she's going to get a tip. Do you tip or pay the going rate and walk away?
Yesterday a German man tipped ME 4euros! Und er kommt aus Dresden! Wow!
OHow much couch time did you give him? ;)
Charlie 123
08-10-11, 19:23
Its been brought up here before about repeating with girls and how sometimes the service starts to degrade. The girl just doesn't perform as she did the first couple of times. I tip by doing repeats with the girl, sometimes several in the same day. If the service starts to drop then I quit repeating with her. What would you do if you've been tipping this girl 20 euro's after every visit and on the last visit the service was shoddy? You've set precedent in her mind that she's going to get a tip. Do you tip or pay the going rate and walk away?The latter.
It goes like this:-
I have a stable of regular girls with whom I session regularly. I also try to make it my business to go to the room with at least one new girl on every visit to Artemis. Sometimes I find a new girl that I really like and then she gets admitted to the permanent roster. Some girls disappear from the club, and the new admissions serve as their natural replacements.
Rarely, but from time to time, one of my regs gives me a bad session. If she's given good service in the past then I tend to have a quiet word but I usually give her a second chance. If she disappoints me a second time then I just dump her. With no qualms whatsoever.
It also happens sometimes that I simply lose interest in one of my regular girls. Maybe I just don't fancy her anymore, or I just get bored with her. Then I discard her, end of story.
There is a girl from Holland called Clara at the club who seems to 'get it' really well. I started sessioning with her a few months ago and she always gave me a good time. Once she said to me 'I understand how it is. You have your 'wives' here and I am just one of the mistresses. I know my place'. Seemed a pretty good summary of the hierarchy as I see it. There are a handful of treasures at the club who have never let me down. When I tell them to bring a friend then they make damn sure that the friend performs to a top standard as well. If I go weeks without sessioning with them they don't whine about it. They are the A-team. Below them are the 'occasionals', with whom I session from time to time ('the mistresses' as Clara named them). There is a further pool of discards who hold no further attraction for me. And the most numerous category of all is the pool of new talent I haven't yet fucked and whose worth is yet to be established.
That's my full system, and tipping plays no part whatsoever in my strategy. If a girl shows me a good time, whether she is a regular girl or a new find, then I give her a drink on top of the normal fee in order to say 'thank you'. It's no more complicated than that.
Best,
Charlie
How much couch time did you give him? ;)I don't know whether to LOL or head for the nearest bucket and barf! Help me.
O
I don't know whether to LOL or head for the nearest bucket and barf! Help me.
OWhat's wrong with doing both?
What's wrong with doing both?Oh, Toll! Das ist Geil! Du bist ein echt Kluegshceisser, ne?
LOL!
O
How much couch time did you give him? ;)Orthos bi? Who would have thunk it? Does the religious right know that tipping makes you gay?
Anyone want to report on whether they tipped a bellhop or a waitress this evening? :confused:
This might seem a bit of a controversial suggestion but maybe some info on FKK World might be a novel idea :D
Just a thought and sorry to interrupt the 10 tip debate ;)
CD
Anyone want to report on whether they tipped a bellhop or a waitress this evening? :confused:
This might seem a bit of a controversial suggestion but maybe some info on FKK World Might be a novel idea.
Just a thought and sorry to interrupt the 10 tip debate.
CDWell it was 20 tip for a covered BJ as I remember, but even so. It all adds up and creates expectations and now I have even heard of Girls at Oaze hassling for tips at the top of the stairs! Nevertheless I thought I would give some feedbaack on my visit on Thursday 4th Aug.
I arrived about 11 to get some sun by the pool and breakfast.
The lineup was extremely dissapointing. Walt Disney had made a big comeback to the club, since "animation" was evident everywhere, with hassle factors that were getting to the point where I was finding it hard to keep my temper. Usually, telling them they could keep their 50 Euros as I was not currently working would provide genuine consternation as they painfully explained to me that I must pay them, not the other way around. Followed by the slow realisation that actually, what I mean is that I would not go with them if they paid me, let alone the other way around.
Funnil enough there were plenty of the "Varoom" type girls. They evidently never saw the YouTube instructional videos. Now there was a time when girls really knew how to construct a sophistric argument to drive you to the brink of insanity, consistently arguing in circles as to why there is no reason for you to not take them to a room (relying of course on your social conditioning that you won't tell them that their breath smells, they have an annoying personality and their tits sag). Now, however things have gone downhill, with the "Varoom" gils providing little amuzement. Typical conversation, Her: "Zimmer Schatz", Me: "That doesn't work, you know, it never works" Her "Go To Room Baby" (switching to English) Me: " No Thanks". Her: "Varoom" (forgetting English) Me: "You mean Why? Why what?" Her: "Why not go to room" Me: "I don't need a why" Her "Phht (virtually spits in face and walks off). Ah, I miss the good old days when the ugly old cow could virtually turn you in circles. Declining education standards, what can you say.
Anyway, when the evening shift came in and the pests fucked off, things started to improve. The BBQ was excellent and the "wurst" almost edible, served by the most pleasant and amusing girls (one of whom is getting married soon). We ended up seeing if we could spear wasps with a fork in mid-air (I suppose you had to be there). I should have given them 50 euros really. It was sad to see the difference between the girls who worked hard for a living doing a genuine job, and those who lie on their back for a living and ask for tips for no reason. Intelligence, with, and decent company. However, as I say, things improved later.
In the evening my current favourite blonde (mostly natural) Romanian Anna arrived. She has the face of an angel but a cool, calculating little nugget of a heart inside that I would not trust more than a second. However, I DO find this completely attractive and totally amusing. She knows to give me excellent GFE and gives the tender kissy sessions I crave, before the hot sweaty finish. Its a hit every time and I thoroughly recommend this girl. She IS highly intelligent and a great conversationalists. She survives entirely on regulars as I think her looks intimidate the first timer. She does not do DFK but allows some use of tongues and kisses a lot. This is nice as her face is very pleasant.
The second Girl was a newbie I could not resist. Named Laura (pronounced Lowra in the Italian fashion of course) she has small boobs, dark brown shoulder length thin hair, slightly over padded hips (probably just puppy fat) and is 20 years old. Last Thursday was her seventh day in Germany and spoke no German and just about functional English.
She was predictably nervous in the room and inexperienced. But she gave the best she could and I appreciated that. Kissing was there, not really passionate but sweet. BJ was a nit unskilled nut not unpleasurable, she just has a bit to learn. I do recommend, but not as any reat experience, just give her a bit of encouragement as she is worth 50 and could become good.
I did notice she sat alone and had few freinds. She did ask me if I could buy her a red bull with my drinks tokens (after) which was fine of course, it is what they are for. Interestingly enough, despite having about 30 Euros worth, I literally could not give them away. I ended up donating them to Georgina who liked the non-alcoholic cocktails.
The only other thing to note is that wuality even in the evening was down on earlier this year. There was one amusing point listening to a girl at reception begging to go home and Franchesca (who takes no nonsense) telling her absolutely not, no way. Waatching her face turn to stone was worth a quick smirk as I knew if the girl just walked out there was not much she could do. It also shows how they work hard at World to ensure that even on the very slowest days, the lineup is there and as good as possible for the time of year.
In all, a good trip, worth going, but daytime in the summer should be restricted to sunny days by the pool wioth a book, enjoying the food.
Tip report, er, I mean trip reportNice one Mike De H :D
Hessen Bub
08-13-11, 15:08
Gladly! Just wait a few weeks. .
Actually I may just have Catalina do it for me.You can try, but she's on holiday and you will also have to wait a few weeks.
HB
When I started my FKK career 2 years ago, I completely misunderstood the system and underestimated the great potential of FKK clubs.
I was always drunk and visited club with alcoholic smell breath and took rude attitude against girls.
In the end, I could never get good service from girls, even often be easily eaten by sharks and was always not satisfied with FKK clubs.
In addition, since it is the common sense that the customer is always stronger than the supplier in Asian countries, I was totally dead fish on the bed!
Recently, I started my own business and then have learned mind set to keep good relation with my clients.
After that, I completely changed my mind and could start to consider the situation from girl's side.
- The client should be clean and gentle.
- Girls want to keep good repeaters.
- Girls also want to enjoy the session.
Now, I am enjoying my best hobby with very nice regular girls especially in FKK World.
Although I know some guys never agree to introduce such a business mind set into FKK clubs, I believe the reason why there are so many attractive, friendly and GFE style girls in FKK World is the matter of very good clients / gentlemen with a nice mind set.
Cheers
Hessen Bub
08-18-11, 20:50
"Wie man in den Wald hineinruft, so schallt es heraus."
Or if you act like an asshole you will be treated like an asshole. And you deserve it. Inside the club. Outside the club.
HB
Hi all,
Does anyone know if Catalina has returned from her vacation back to World?
H
Hi all,
Does anyone know if Catalina has returned from her vacation back to World?
HShe was not there last week on Thursday. I think she will be on vacation for a few more weeks.
Cheers,
Dedalus
She was not there last week on Thursday. I think she will be on vacation for a few more weeks.
Cheers,
DedalusThanks Dedalus for the update.
H
I have a question. In one week I am going to visit again fkk world. Is Vania from Bulgaria back again because she is so so so hot her curve body skin soft like a milk and extraodinary blue yeys has fascinated me. I will always remember our time in fkk. Her service is unbelivable so gut BJ and the sex professional. I hope she is there because probably I will spend the most of my time in fkk world with her. Oh and her attitude and character are just unique she is so sophisticated. Please can anybody help me?
Thanks Dedalus for the update.
HI have gustion about Vania
From Bulgaria. Is she back again please answer me. She is so hot tall curve body and blue like marine eyes and the servise LOL oustanding I think she is the best.
Nick The G
08-27-11, 23:19
I have question about Vania
From Bulgaria. Is she back again please answer me.You should have been there yesterday on Friday. There were so many girls around.
All girls having little or almost nothing to do, because there weren't too many men around!
And here is the good news: bulgarian Vania is there, she approached me in the garden and we talked for some time.
I have seen her many times before, but never talked to her. Really nice kind of woman, true!
But I prefered other girls on that day.
BTW.: Roxana (who in the past has often been seen together with Daphina) is back after having been away for three month.
Nicole from Romania is back after her holiday, deeply sun-tanned.
A new & interesting woman from Hungary is now there. Her name: Julia
Situation / No. of girls at World is extremely varying from day to day!
Some well known faces were absent on Friday or are still on holidays!
I too didn't see Katalina / Catalina!
But never mind, a stream of fresh blood from Romania and Bulgaria hit the world!
Recommendation: look for new Rebecca from Romania, born under the sign of Aries!
renovations are under way- new wall paper in the untergeschoss hallway, in the tent city rooms there are new beds, flat screen tv'a and wall coverings being installed. i was the last punter ever to have his ass on the old couch in the american sector upstairs- they asked me and my baby to move and they replaced with a huge new leather couch on thursday. the place is looking good.
the flies are horrible right now- outside literally swarms of them no biting but still annoying. less so on a cool or rainy day.
two excellent long legged romanian girls who stole my heart this weekend- blonde sabrina and brown haired (new color for her) brittney. both top notch 22 year old gfe's and lovely girls. be still my heart.
oh yeah- i melted 6 ice cubes when i peed.
beffen
Hessen Bub
08-28-11, 10:05
The flies do not bite. But there's lots and lots of wasps outside, and they do sting.
Thursday was one of the slowest days ever at World, few girls, few guys. And yes, Sabrina is a cutie.
HB
The flies do not bite. But there's lots and lots of wasps outside, and they do sting.
Thursday was one of the slowest days ever at World, few girls, few guys. And yes, Sabrina is a cutie.
HBRight you are bub, the wasps are plentiful as well and they are very thirsty for cola mit ijs. Don't take a nap with your mouth open outside LOL. Saturday there were more men and a few more women- had to wait fior rooms at times but not Thursday. Now watching NYC getting flooded on CNN and about to head to Oase to bury my sorrow between some girls legs. Had a fun dance with a drunk Maria Friday.
Nice to see you again too.
Beffen
You should have been there yesterday on Friday. There were so many girls around.
All girls having little or almost nothing to do, because there weren't too many men around!
And here is the good news: bulgarian Vania is there, she approached me in the garden and we talked for some time.
I have seen her many times before, but never talked to her. Really nice kind of woman, true!
But I prefered other girls on that day.
BTW. : Roxana (who in the past has often been seen together with Daphina) is back after having been away for three month.
Nicole from Romania is back after her holiday, deeply sun-tanned.
A new & interesting woman from Hungary is now there. Her name: Julia.
Situation / No. Of girls at World is extremely varying from day to day!
Some well known faces were absent on Friday or are still on holidays!
I too didn't see Katalina / Catalina!
But never mind, a stream of fresh blood from Romania and Bulgaria hit the world!
Recommendation: look for new Rebecca from Romania, born under the sign of Aries!Thanks for the information, I have to visit her but her service is really good you have to try it, and whar about her friend Mimi is she with her and have anybody were with her because I want to try her please tell me about her
Hessen Bub
08-28-11, 17:09
Are you still around on Tuesday? I haven't seen Maria in a while. Irene in NY didn't seem too bad.
HB
Are you still around on Tuesday? I haven't seen Maria in a while. Irene in NY didn't seem too bad.
HBIrene wasn't too bad but she was no GFE LOL. I'm supposed to fly home later this morning but if they don't open JFK later then I may well still be here Tuesday.
No Maria today at Oase- in fact the lineup was so boring we left at 10PM to return to the hotel.
I'll let you know.
Beffen- potentially standed traveller
Oh yes I am so glad that I could met again that piece of heaven, her eyes are just unbeliavable. I was with her yesterday I was one of the luckiest guys who could approach her yesterday because she is obe of the Line up and ist often busy. Never mind I spen with her 2 eloquent hours. All the the time her performance was like a pro porn star because her GFE is soooo gut. I worship her because she is also and a the appropriate friend and company my conversations with her are always in high quality. Thank you Fkk for meeting me with Vania (bulgarian). I respect also and Catalina but she was not there for my regret.
Oh yes I am so glad that I could met again that piece of heaven, her eyes are just unbeliavable. I was with her yesterday I was one of the luckiest guys who could approach her yesterday because she is obe of the Line up and ist often busy. Never mind I spen with her 2 eloquent hours. All the the time her performance was like a pro porn star because her GFE is soooo gut. I worship her because she is also and a the appropriate friend and company my conversations with her are always in high quality. Thank you Fkk for meeting me with Vania (bulgarian). I respect also and Catalina but she was not there for my regret.Smells like a marketing ploy to me. Just sayin".
Beffen
Hi Guys,
How much girls would one expect to see on a Friday, and how does it compare to oase on fridays?
Cheers
Smells like a marketing ploy to me. Just sayin".
BeffenLOL, exactly my thinking, specially since the poster posted on the 28th that he was going after one week and then two days later makes a report that he was with her yesterday. I guess Vania or her pimp could not wait a week to make it a bit more authentic.
LOL, exactly my thinking, specially since the poster posted on the 28th that he was going after one week and then two days later makes a report that he was with her yesterday. I guess Vania or her pimp could not wait a week to make it a bit more authentic.I think that you do not know anthink about me and that is funny that you think such piece of nonsense I can rirht whatever I want and then to come in fkk also wnenever I want and if you were smarter my chap you would probably realized that after the post that she is back again maybe I could not wait till the next week.
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Hi Guys,
How much girls would one expect to see on a Friday, and how does it compare to oase on fridays?
CheersWell, it depends on which time of the year. My prediction for Friday November 11th 2011 is:
World = 58.
Oase = 81
Well, it depends on which time of the year. My prediction for Friday November 11th 2011 is:
World = 58.
Oase = 81That's pretty much dead on, maybe 55 to 77 if its a slow night. Best there might only be 50 guys at World most of the evening to Oase's 100, and half the world guys are drinkers. So there's a better chance of getting quality couch time before the room.
I think that you do not know anthink about me and that is funny that you think such piece of nonsense I can rirht whatever I want and then to come in fkk also wnenever I want and if you were smarter my chap you would probably realized that after the post that she is back again maybe I could not wait till the next week.LOL, and I actually thought this was Vania's pimp! Now I have to adjust my thinking: his English is too high standard for a pimp. LOL.
But I go with Beffen's and Henio's gut instinct.
O
Reading the comments here on tipping with pride and service in general, its seems to me that some guys cannot see the connection between the poor quality of service in general compared to a few years ago and the lemming like desire to part with money in the form of a tip. Why are you tipping if what you are likely to get in World is hassled, sharked, short changed and abused? And since when was it normal for a girl to demand a tip?
That said tipping has never been a topic on the German forums and neither is sharking and issue raised as often as it is on this English forum. As a German speaker I have to come to the conclusion that the girls have two approaches which are strikingly similar to service providers the world over: one rule for tourists and another for the locals. In other words tourists, which by definition is 99% of guys on this board, get ripped off. The locals geta better deal.
I am not being judgemental, well hope not anyway, but when I read the comments here and then read threads on the same club on German boards, I see two different 'Worlds'.
LOL, and I actually thought this was Vania's pimp! Now I have to adjust my thinking: his English is too high standard for a pimp. LOL.
But I go with Beffen's and Henio's gut instinct.
OGood point buddy do you think that pimps have the time for this forum instead of counting their money that is neither Vania because her english is only basic. I just wanted to express my feelings but now I am dissapointed from the answers. And I would probably not visit this forum again because I need collegaues who understand and share with me whar I post here.
Member #4243
08-31-11, 19:04
Arriving via train / taxi from friedrchsdorf near oase where my hotel was I had no idea what to expect. Initially my conclusion was that the the club hardware was superior to oase but that oase.
Had the edge on girls looks easily for me. If the oase girls were put into world club that would be amazing. However there were stunners at world just that they seemed harder to find for me.
After food and reviving in the pool jacuzzi etc I had the idea to blow 200 on 1 hour with 2 girls. This was something I had only experienced a couple of times before as I am just 36. The game was t.
Now find the two sexiest and warm nice girls in the club and try and negotiate this goal. On surveying all the hunnies and chattin to, I was hooked on german christina aged 18 very new to club,
And bulgarian dara 26. Easily the hottest girls in the club for me. Everytime I isolated one she told me she did not know the other girl and vice versa taking me 2 hours to finally get the girls togeth.
Er where they finally agreed on my 3 some idea. Once in the room all was going really nice when to my surprise dara asked christian if they could kiss. I smelt an upsell by which time I heard them.
Both openly say that they liked girls. I told them if they wanted to kiss it was for 0 euros I would not pay more. Not only did they agree but dara went on to lick out christina while I was 69 ing
Her. This was incredible as I wouldn't dream of this ever happening in a real life girl times two encounter. 1 hour times two 200 euros. Having only had sex with christina, about 4 hours later I to.
Took dara to the room for another hour just me and her to conclude my time in fkk world. Thankyou world.
I think that you do not know anthink about me and that is funny that you think such piece of nonsense I can rirht whatever I want and then to come in fkk also wnenever I want and if you were smarter my chap you would probably realized that after the post that she is back again maybe I could not wait till the next week.There is more people who think your posts are for self- marketing
?.Best there might only be 50 guys at World most of the evening to Oase's 100, and half the world guys are drinkers.This is a pretty spot on observation. I have indeed met guys who come to FKKs with the sole purpose of drinking cheap beer. For beers running at an average of 3-4 euros per a small glass at regular bars around the frankfurt / giessen area, world and mainhatten serve as gόnstig locations especially when combined with a dinner for heavy drinkers. These guys won't have any intentions to go to the zimmer, or maybe only for one session.
I just wanted to express my feelings but now I am dissapointed from the answers. And I would probably not visit this forum again because I need collegaues who understand and share with me whar I post here.Aw gee. Don't go. Please.
Well, I guess you got to do what you got to do. I, for one am behind you whatever you decide.
Good luck,
Dedalus, who found Vania to be a somewhat attractive but a bit too snobbish and even a tad bitchy
Good point buddy do you think that pimps have the time for this forum instead of counting their money that is neither Vania because her english is only basic. I just wanted to express my feelings but now I am dissapointed from the answers. And I would probably not visit this forum again because I need collegaues who understand and share with me whar I post here.This forum is definitely not a monopoly for FFKs (frequent FKK visitors) , so different opinions and experiences are more than welcome. We love to hear you experiences about Vania. Just that you don't have any other posts than over-promoting a particular girl, which makes most of suspicious about the authenticity of your posts. The only way to get your spot in this forum is to keep posting, and not to disappear after discouragement. My two cents.
Dedalus, who found Vania to be a somewhat attractive but a bit too snobbish and even a tad bitchyThat's pretty much a good brief summary of how I recall Vania too. We also had talked about the forum with her too.
Treble Machine
09-01-11, 09:12
Sorry for the late report (as usual) but I wanted to add some infos on the full day I spent at World on August the 16th.
Tried to pay with credit card as I usually do but the woman at the reception refused and told me to use the cash machine. Meh!
First and foremost. Food was TERRIBLE! It's the first time this happened to me@World.
Weather was getting quite good but there wasn't much going on outside and as someone already reported the air was swarming with wasps.
Me and my buddy (on his first FKK experience) took it easy and relaxed around the club. It was a dessous tag and probably the slowest day I witnessed at World (which got even worse after midnight) but being mid August and holiday time I wasn't really expecting much.
Before the evening I realized it was time for some action and I picked Selena the big boobed Romanian girl with long straight raven hair.
Session was ok but nothing to write home about. Quite mechanical and not really satisfying.
Chilled out a bit more then after a sauna and some flirting here and there the girl who got me the most was Giselle, the little pixie with the Twetty tattoo on her belly.
Excellent performance in the room climaxed with a glorious CIM. Very correct and trustworthy. Hoping to repeat with her sometime soon.
As usual with all the italian customers, my buddy got his head talked off by Silvana, the plastic woman from Venice, for what seemed like an eternity. I had to pull my best tricks my best to stay away from her all day.
We had actually planned to spend the next day at Oase or repeat at World but insted we went to do some shopping in downtown FFM and finished too late and and bit too tired to enjoy a proper visit.
Right now I'm already planning my next visit and I was thinking about coming back to World for the Helloween party.
Anyone saw Marie (small blondie with big tits) at World recenlty? God, I love that girl.
Does anyone know if "Frankfurt motor show 2011" will increase the number of guys significantly in FKK World?
Or, FKK world is far enough and free even from such a big Messe influence?
Thanks
Does anyone know if "Frankfurt motor show 2011" will increase the number of guys significantly in FKK World?
Or, FKK world is far enough and free even from such a big Messe influence?
ThanksYes.
Many Messe guys will want to avoid the known Messe crowd in Oase & Palace and will head to World. It's only a 40min drive anyway.
Hessen Bub
09-10-11, 10:09
Never felt thspat World had significantly more guys during a messe period. Some girls are heading to Oase, Mainhattan and Palace, trying to get their share of the messe guests. But World seems more or lesse "messe-neutral".
HB
Yes.
Many Messe guys will want to avoid the known Messe crowd in Oase & Palace and will head to World. It's only a 40min drive anyway.It's never taken me more than 20 minutes from oase, I even made it in 20 once from palace
Hessen Bub
09-10-11, 14:51
He was talking about the distance from the Messe to Pohlheim. That's about the same as from Palace to World, and that is 60 km. I doubt you can make that in 20 minutes, maybe at night with no traffic and a fast car and not being US American. But you'll have to average 180km / h.
HB
From Shiatsu.
Slim 20 year old Bulgarian with brown long curly hair. Small breasts and nice genuine smile. She usually sits at the bar or on the plinth near the Hollywood area.
I spent three days watching her and wondering why she never made initial eye contact with anybody but was chatting in a friendly way with men who approached her. However nearly all of them then went away so I was wondering if she ever went with anybody? (I found out why later)
On my last day as I was about to leave I thought I would give it a go. She talks good English but appeared very shy. But she had a soft look in her eyes so I asked to go to a room, as she did not appear likely ever to suggest it.
In the room she was brilliant. Very passionate and active as well as very soft. She is clear that it is simply a job for her, and is very clear headed. Her service is better than that of the 15 girls currently at the club with whom I have been.
I broke my rule of only 30 minutes on a first session, and extended to an hour. After we finished the first hour I showered, re-entered the main room and booked another hour straightaway.
Most of the second session was spent talking she has a very enquiring and discerning mind but at 55 minutes were- engaged in some active connection (going over the hour by five minutes at no charge no big deal but it shows she is not a shark)
I hesitate to recommend her since I do not want all you guys booking her next time I am there. She is slowly building up a number of Stammgaste, so may soon be busy.
From Shiatsu.
Slim 20 year old Bulgarian with brown long curly hair. Small breasts and nice genuine smile. She usually sits at the bar or on the plinth near the Hollywood area.
I spent three days watching her and wondering why she never made initial eye contact with anybody but was chatting in a friendly way with men who approached her. However nearly all of them then went away so I was wondering if she ever went with anybody? (I found out why later)
On my last day as I was about to leave I thought I would give it a go. She talks good English but appeared very shy. But she had a soft look in her eyes so I asked to go to a room, as she did not appear likely ever to suggest it.
In the room she was brilliant. Very passionate and active as well as very soft. She is clear that it is simply a job for her, and is very clear headed. Her service is better than that of the 15 girls currently at the club with whom I have been.
I broke my rule of only 30 minutes on a first session, and extended to an hour. After we finished the first hour I showered, re-entered the main room and booked another hour straightaway.
Most of the second session was spent talking she has a very enquiring and discerning mind but at 55 minutes were- engaged in some active connection (going over the hour by five minutes at no charge no big deal but it shows she is not a shark)
I hesitate to recommend her since I do not want all you guys booking her next time I am there. She is slowly building up a number of Stammgaste, so may soon be busy.Hi Shiatsu,
Thank you for sharing nice new girl.
Nicole, yes I know her and approached her several times last 3 weeks, but unfortunately never went to the room.
She always excused BBBJ because of catching a cold and taking medicine for.
Was it not the case for you?
Thanks.
Taiyo.
You are right. Her service is a little restricted in that sense. But overall she is (in my opinion an excellent asset for the club)
From Shiatsu. Maggie from Bulgaria. A terrible session. No real distinguishing features. Black hair, quite slim, pretty, proportioned breasts. Had some bruising on legs. Maybe that is not usual for her. All started well. She came to sit at breakfast and seemed relaxed and gently friendly. No English and very little German. About half hour later she came and sat with me in the main room, with a friendly and non-aggressive light touching. I wouldn't normally have gone with her since her eyes had a slight disconnected look common with many of the girls in clubs who do not provide good service. However maybe on this occasion I was wrong?
No way. Once in room she spent five minutes on upsell. First trying one hour and then trying to offer without condom. She seemed quite desperate to get 100E. Refusal followed refusal so 50E it was. She couldn't wait to get out of the room. All eye contact was avoided. After 15 minutes we left the room, having had a quibble about the time.
I probably should have made a complaint but didn't bother. Somewhere inside me I had a feeling that she was under pressure to earn (a girl probably needs to earn around 120Euro just to break even each day, and there are many girls who probably don't do much more than this) Astonishingly she tried to pick me up again later in the day! Despite her attractive looks I had no trouble declining
Who has caught the eye of other members.
Her Tweety tattoo, slimness, straight black brushed up hair, smiling darting eyes are markers. Had several sessions with her, but they varied acording to how tired she was on each day. One day she was more than happy to come several times, the next day she was only wanting a massage (I am reluctant to pay to massage a girl. They should pay me). Basically she is very direct and honest (her word is "correct")
The first day her eyes lit up and her smile flashed across her face, and then the conversation started in limited German and English. She picked the conversation up from the point we left it in July! Several sessions followed in which we both had a good time.
The next day (Saturday) she took me with her to eat and also to sit in the main room for a while. However she was exhausted and after one session we did not repeat (it was the last summer Saturday and the club was more crowded than on some party days. She asked me to wait but I was too tired!).
Sunday I arrived late and she had several bookings already made and asked me to wait until 2. 00am. Too late for me so I had to leave.
If anybody sees her, say hello, from the Englishman with the red watch strap, who will not see her in November (as she is away) but hopes to see her on her return
Hessen Bub
09-11-11, 14:39
She always excused BBBJ because of catching a cold and taking medicine for.She actually told me before the session that she does never do BBBJ. So I went for a covered one, did not regret, sweet sweet girl.
HB.
PS: Always thought Cordelia Shiatsu was female?
Hessen Bub.
Sorry for confusion. Cordelia Shiatsu posts are from two people. Cordelia is the female half of the posting pair, but is no longer posting. To avoid confusion we have been trying to change username for a while but having no luck
You are right about Nicole
Shiatsu
Hessen Bub.
Sorry for confusion. Cordelia Shiatsu posts are from two people. Cordelia is the female half of the posting pair, but is no longer posting. To avoid confusion we have been trying to change username for a while but having no luck.
You are right about Nicole.
ShiatsuI take it that now Cordelia has retired, that she no longer has any interest in this scene and wants to move on in her life now, am I correct?
On the Oase thread about wether or not you are commited to the room of you kiss a Girl. I asked if Cordelia on my first (or second) trip if you could have a good old tonsil tickler with a girl and then not got to a room and her answer was simple."Yes, but you'll have a seriously pissed off girl on your hands". LOL
Hi Mike.
Thanks for making it clear. You are correct. Yes Cordelia is no longer working. Lots of nice memories, but it was never meant to be a lifetime career...... It was a lot better than working in some so called respectable professions where honesty and integrity is rarely found.
Slim 20 year old Bulgarian with brown long curly hair. Small breasts and nice genuine smile. She usually sits at the bar or on the plinth near the Hollywood area.
I spent three days watching her and wondering why she never made initial eye contact with anybody but was chatting in a friendly way with men who approached her. However nearly all of them then went away so I was wondering if she ever went with anybody? (I found out why later).I found it rather difficult to connect with her and most efforts of engaging in conversation was met with rather abrupt replies so I kind of gave up since there were lots of girls to pick from tonight. I may have cought her at a bad time or something. I am wandering if it is the same girl. Kind of girl next door face, cute but not a classic beauty though, frizzy brown hair, small and just slightly droopie breasts. I had seen her in lengthy conversation though with another client and what cought my interest was her "sympathetic" face.
Hessen Bub
09-18-11, 10:33
I found it rather difficult to connect with her and most efforts of engaging in conversation was met with rather abrupt replies so I kind of gave up since there were lots of girls to pick from tonight. I may have cought her at a bad time or something. I am wandering if it is the same girl. Kind of girl next door face, cute but not a classic beauty though, frizzy brown hair, small and just slightly droopie breasts.That's her. Very engaged session, but CBJ.
HB
Hercules78
09-19-11, 00:27
Thursday night I reached FKK World around 7:00pm. The lineup was ok but not as good as Oase, which I visited subsequently the next two days. My first session was with a very cute Romanian. Alina. She's got blonde shoulder length hair, a cute diamond stud near the lips and beautiful face and body. I took her to a room downstairs and had a good session, BBBJ followed by multiple positions. Later I had some time for relaxation and dinner and then I sessioned with a very sweet black haired Bulgarian girl (I forgot her name) but she's quite tall, had short shoulder length hair and speaks 9 languages including very good English. Nice BBBJ followed by different positions. I find the level of service very good and both Oase and World. Standard to have a BBBJ and full 30 minutes, no rush sessions for 50 Euros. I returned back around 1:00 am as I wanted to get good sleep before my full day adventure at the Oase. My report on Oase in that section
Later I had some time for relaxation and dinner and then I sessioned with a very sweet black haired Bulgarian girl (I forgot her name) but she's quite tall, had short shoulder length hair and speaks 9 languages including very good English. Nice BBBJ followed by different positions.Does someone know this Bulgarian girl?
Thanks
I have an early morning flight out of Frankfurt so I decided to spend my last day's per diem at World. It's 2 am and I'll return the rental car and be at the airport in plenty of time. Better than getting up at 3 am!
Anyway, some news on travel: since I passed the points on the way, here is the latest highway measurement: From the Nordwestkreutz Exit (the exit off A-5 going to Palace) to the Feldwald Exit on A-5 to Pohlheim / World: 22 minutes without going over 150 and less much of the time. That is EXIT TO EXIT, not door to door.
Anyway, my plan was a few well separated sessions plus lots of sleep and 2 or 3 meals. I got there about 2 pm, left at 2 am, so it was 12 hours well spent. Sessions started with Katrina (cute Romanian), very responsive to DATY, warm, affectionate, multiple positions, very tight and very energetic when she comes (or fakes very well. The squeezing is real!). Cuddling afterwards, and then a nice shower and meal and nap.
NOTE: There are some real heavy women there, who are a bit pushy, and I would never session with them. They think it is cute to block your way going up / down stairs, for instance. Strange. .
Session 2 was with Mikki from Shang Hai. Very passionate kissing and massage to wake me from my nap. We stayed on the couch for a while and then found a room. Very involved kissing, DATY. 69, and then cowgirl and finished from behind. And the shower, meal and nap that followed were much needed as a rest!
SECOND NOTE: Flies, lots of them. Swarming in the dining area. I killed 8 or 10 easy (just clap over their heads, they fly right into your hands). I hadn't noticed on previous visits. Is it the season?
The nap was about 3 hours. I had gotten a few towels to use as cover from the flies. Downstairs, quieter (except for the screaming from the Hannnover-Dortmund game) , and for the most part, if you really are laid out, the girls will let you sleep.
I woke about midnight wondering if I could identify a cutie to finish off, and I did: Martina. Very compact dynamite. Brown hair, from Germany (Karlsruhe). I think I remember her from Flaminko. Excellent English. Her short hair gives her a real school girl look, and her kisses reminded me of high school making out! Between the couch and room, it was much more than an hour, but she said "fifty" when I gave a kind of quizzical look thinking that maybe she expected more. I had 3 twenties and told her to keep it as my parting gift.
Back to the US tomorrow and may not be back for a while. But it was a good way to spend the last day.
Mark
Henio.
Hi. Yes your assessment of Nicole is right. That is why it took three days of watching for me to decide to give it a try for exactly the reason you mention. The "sympathetic" face. I was literally about to leave the club but thought it worth a try and was very happy I did.
She can seem a little abrupt at first. Actually quite shy. I think it is that she begins to respond when she begins to feel the man is not an idiot (unlike most girls she does not go with almost anyone for 50E). As you are definitely not an idiot you should have no trouble with her if you take the plunge. She repays sensible conversation
Just a reminder. She has been in the club since its early days and can be really fun to spend time with. Day shift (not weekends) very short hair, reddish, slim, sits usually on the couch ( I call it the German stammgaste couch) with aone or two German girl, nearest the entry portal. For various reasons we no longer go to room, but I very happily spent 4. 5 hours with her one day, and it didn't seem a moment too long
Nick The G
09-19-11, 19:30
Does someone know this Bulgarian girl?The only new bulgarian girl at FKK-World I came to know recently is called Tamara (who claims to speak 9 languages!).
I had a longer chat with her at the outdoor pool.
Tamara is a very interesting woman, but imo no eye-catcher.
Yes your assessment of Nicole is right.please note: there are at least two Nicoles working at FKK-World!
One from Romania, one from Bulgaria.
The shy one with curly hair mentioned here is from Bulgaria!
The only new bulgarian girl at FKK-World I came to know recently is called Tamara (who claims to speak 9 languages!).
I had a longer chat with her at the outdoor pool.
Tamara is a very interesting woman, but imo no eye-catcher.Nick, thanks for info.
SECOND NOTE: Flies, lots of them. Swarming in the dining area. I killed 8 or 10 easy (just clap over their heads, they fly right into your hands). I hadn't noticed on previous visits. Is it the season?Yes, the flies are a problem at FKKW. I suffered from them last summer and decided that it is not worth it. Stunning that they cannot seem to control this pest.
Hercules78
09-20-11, 00:55
[QUOTE=Nick The G; 1198694]The only new bulgarian girl at FKK-World I came to know recently is called Tamara (who claims to speak 9 languages!).
I had a longer chat with her at the outdoor pool.
Tamara is a very interesting woman, but imo no eye-catcher. QUOTE]
Yes, that was her. Tamara. She may not be a model type, but is slim, tall, has a beautiful smile, gives a damn good BBBJ and works hard to please. I liked her attitude and english speaking skills. Also she is facially very beautiful. Almost perfect skin and nice lips. I did enjoy my session with her and if I had gone the second night, would have certainly repeated. Thanks for reminding me her name.
Nick The G
09-20-11, 09:14
Yes, the flies are a problem at FKKW. I suffered from them last summer and decided that it is not worth it. Stunning that they cannot seem to control this pest.Since the club opened in May 2003, I go there.
Every year in summer there are bees, lots of wasps and flies. Same procedure every year.
So what? The FKK-World is a nice place in the countryside! We all love the beautiful green surroundings and the garden.
If you own a place with doors wide open all day, how can you control flies easily?
I'm still alive and enjoying that place. No pest at all! (thoughts about flies and wasps are the biggest "mental" pest!)
The only persons who might face some real risk are those, who have a known allergy against the poison injected by wasps when stinging.
Nick the G gave me several suggestions.
One of the two Sofias was one. She was pretty but not particularly memorable.
Roxanne I failed to find.
Rebecca I did find. Or rather she found me. I had been introduced to her by Nick but did not follow up (I couldn't quite differentiate her from many other black haired Balkan exports). But the next day she decided to approach me (having seen me unoccupied for several hours). What followed was a very decent half hour session. A bit professional for my liking but a really good start for a first meeting. I can't think of any distinguishing features, but if she approaches you I think you'll get a good session.
Sonia. Long black hair slim about 1. 60, maybe looking a little tired, continues to provide very nice sessions. She speaks very little English but is very positive.
All of these girls reflect (what I hope is) the norm in the club not to try to short change on the time. Having said that I did watch a few girls who came back from rooms withing 10 minutes. They had been on my "possibles" list but I deleted them when I saw them come back so soon. That's why it takes hours to choose a new girl.
As for flies. Well I've been there since 2003 and find them a real discomfort from time to time but I'm still going. Not as much of a nuisance as the Grill. Especially on days when the serving staff have to wear fleeces because it's so cold and the guests have to run back to the main house to eat to avoid wind and rain
Just to be clear, I was making an observation only about the flies. I don't share Euro100's extreme reaction. I still enjoy the layout and especially the non-smoking downstairs lounging area as much as any club. I am rarely there in the summer for the bees and wasps, so I guess I should say I have been fortunate.
Mark
@Nick & Other World regulars,
How has IAA affected World this year? Business as usual? Crowded with men? Emptied for World girls travelling to Mainhattan taking advantage of the Messe crowd? Or to the contrary; extra good line-ups?
Just curious.
Cheers,
S16
@Nick & Other World regulars,
How has IAA affected World this year? Business as usual? Crowded with men? Emptied for World girls travelling to Mainhattan taking advantage of the Messe crowd? Or to the contrary; extra good line-ups?
Just curious.
Cheers,
S16Not really affected. Was there last Saturday and it was a pretty normal Saturday in terms of lineup as well as guest attendance. I am sure some girls have travelled south during the messe, but did not really notice the difference.
Hessen Bub
09-22-11, 08:56
World is not affected at all by the IAA. Even Oase was OK yesterday until I left around 11pm.
HB
FunLovingOne
09-26-11, 14:55
I PM'd Hessen Bub last Fridday for a recommendation between World, Palace and Manhattan for my last night before travelling back to LA. He said go to World. He was absolutely correct. Over the years on my infrequent trips to the EU I have been to LR, GT, PHG, Palace previously. Always thought GT had the best line up but last Friday at World was pretty good. Hardly any dogs and mostly 7's I would guess by the standard I see applied in this forum. OK, the flies are a little bit of a nuisance but not that bad actually.
Here is a summary of my sessions:
Loraina (sp?). Blond Romanian, a little pudgy. Met her on the sofa facing a porn TV between the pool and rooms. Quite passionate on the couch but was very mechanical in the room. Do not recommend. Later in the evening she kept coming by to sit and complain. I have been doing this a long time and the girls seem to confide in me, which is not recommended either."This place is killing me she was saying." In the words of an old American kids cartoon, drizzle, drezzle, drazzle, drone, time for this one to go home."
Andra. Romanian. A solid 8, blond, just enough cushion or the pushin' but you would not know it by seeing her bubble but when she walked around. Expected a marginal performance but received a good one. Nice DFK, receptive to DATY, B+ BBBJ and grabbed my ass eventually in mish pulling me in. Just the right amount of acting. Very pleasant personality.
Jennifer. Romanian. A 7 in looks but a 9 in performance IF you like PSE. Not passionate. Just a good porn style session. DFK, DATY, CG and Mish.
Food was marginal BTW.
See you next time I am in Germany boys. If you are ever in LA look me up. Plenty of P4P here but hard to research. You need a guide.
FLO
.Jennifer. Romanian. A 7 in looks but a 9 in performance IF you like PSE. Not passionate. Just a good porn style session. DFK, DATY, CG and Mish.I did Jennifer as well that same night. Was actually surprised by her good performance. She has a bit of a goth look going and looks quite stern facial expression most of the times. Have spoken to her numerous times but never quite got the right chemistry until now and I do not regret taking the plunge. Really good session and I did find her passionate enough, will repeat and highly recommend her, and yes, she has some good solid PSE moves as well.
Hessen Bub
09-27-11, 00:02
Actually Jennifer was a more passionate session than I asked for. What a hurricane she can be.
HB
Nick The G
09-28-11, 12:56
Lately there were two Jennifers from Romania working at FKK-World!
The well known one, Roxana-Jennifer, with "siliconized" boobs, currently is on holidays (already since three weeks).
The other one with pale skin and A cups is the one with the "gothic" looks and "stern facial expression most of the time".
Hessen Bub
09-29-11, 18:26
The well known one, Roxana-Jennifer, with "siliconized" boobs, currently is on holidays (already since three weeks).Great passionate service. Henio is referring to her.
The other one with pale skin and A cups is the one with the "gothic" looks and "stern facial expression most of the time".Medium service.
HB
Nick The G
09-29-11, 21:18
Great passionate service. Henio is referring to her.Imo he can't refer to her, because when Henio and FunLovingOne were at FKK-World, Roxana-Jennifer was already home in Romania for holidays!
Since three weeks, only this pale Jennifer with the gothic look is working at FKK-World!
But it won't be for too long! I guess boobs-enhanced Roxana-Jennifer will be back soon.
Imo he can't refer to her, because when Henio and FunLovingOne were at FKK-World, Roxana-Jennifer was already home in Romania for holidays!
Since three weeks, only this pale Jennifer with the gothic look is working at FKK-World!
But it won't be for too long! I guess boobs-enhanced Roxana-Jennifer will be back soon.I am talking about the gothic looking chick. Not an ounce of silicone in that body. Have no idea who the fake boobs Jennifer is.
BTW: In recent weeks I have seen this really hot blond girl in World. She has what looks to be perfect C cups, but I assume they are not natural although I have not noticed them being obviously fake. Don't really know how to describe her better other than the tits are perfect looking. Anyone have and I'd on her and experience?
Hessen Bub
09-30-11, 11:59
Imo he can't refer to her, because when HenioGood we cleared that one out.
HB
Nick The G
10-01-11, 11:58
Last night, Friday, both Jennifers, both romanian, were there!
Silicon-Jennifer (scorpio woman) surprised me by telling me, that she is already back since 1, 5 weeks!
On the days when I was there, she wasn't, as we found out.
Nevertheless, she will be away again for 2 weeks soon.
I was tempted to try them both and was awarded with two great sessions.
With Silicon-Jennifer I have been already many times, so nothing really new, IMHO always best possible service!
The "gothic" Jennifer (aries) can smile, she likes to smile, I was talking with her for some time and we laughed a lot.
So that was a good sign for taking a further step. Spent half an hour with her, started a bit slow but got better and better over time!
I will definitely go for a repeat session with her.
She told me that she has worked for 4 years in clubs in Spain.
This is my latest to-do list in FKK World.
These girls are all above 7 looks and have GFE style.
If you dig in the World, you can find another treasure.
I can never believe Palace or Oase may beat such a strong line-up in World!
Daria.
Sabrina.
Luana.
Lia.
Anna.
Samuella.
Alina.
Eva.
Britney.
Alexandra.
Silvia.
Isabelle.
Helena.
Tiffany
This is my latest to-do list in FKK World.That is an impressive list, for sure. But how many girls on your list still work at World on a regular or even semi-regular basis? I mean, if I were to part the red curtains, say, next Thurs or Fri night, how many girls on your list would I see standing there in front of me?
O
Nick The G
10-06-11, 10:47
This is my latest to-do list in FKK World.
These girls are all above 7 looks and have GFE style.IMHO you forgot: Roberta, Roxana (both from Romania).
If looks are not that important and you search for ultimate GFE, ask for Nicole and Daphina (both again from Romania) , or for Marie (Germany)
Daria.
Luana.
Alina.
Eva.
Alexandra.
Silvia. (the blonde Czech girl?) These girls I saw on Monday, October 3rd.
That is an impressive list, for sure. But how many girls on your list still work at World on a regular or even semi-regular basis? I mean, if I were to part the red curtains, say, next Thurs or Fri night, how many girls on your list would I see standing there in front of me?
OOrtos,
I met or went room with all ladies within last three weeks.
To stay safe side, below mentioned girls were there on 5th October.
Daria.
Sabrina.
Lia.
Anna.
Alina.
Eva.
Britney.
Alexandra.
Isabelle.
Helena.
Tiffany
IMHO you forgot: Roberta, Roxana (both from Romania).Nick,
Thank you for info. I have never tried these girls.
I will keep in mind!
JimmyVegas
10-07-11, 02:26
Hello. Do any of the girls you listed have very large labia. Inner pussy lips. Thats what I'm looking for. Will be at world next week.
Thanks so much.
Jv
This is my latest to-do list in FKK World.
These girls are all above 7 looks and have GFE style.
If you dig in the World, you can find another treasure.
I can never believe Palace or Oase may beat such a strong line-up in World!
Daria.
Sabrina.
Luana.
Lia.
Anna.
Samuella.
Alina.
Eva.
Britney.
Alexandra.
Silvia.
Isabelle.
Helena.
Tiffany
Ortos,
I met or went room with all ladies within last three weeks.
To stay safe side, below mentioned girls were there on 5th October.
Daria.
Sabrina.
Lia.
Anna.
Alina.
Eva.
Britney.
Alexandra.
Isabelle.
Helena.
TiffanyOkay, thanks much. I was concerned that your list may have contained some names that were no longer current, so thanks for correcting this mis-impression. I am intrigued: Is this the long-time star Daria from Slovakia, whose early FKK career spans all the way back to the Atlantis days? Can you give a short description?
Also: Which Eva are you talking about, there are / have been so many?
O
Nick The G
10-07-11, 10:57
Is this the long-time star Daria from Slovakia, whose early FKK career spans all the way back to the Atlantis days?Yes, it's her!
Hello. Do any of the girls you listed have very large labia. Inner pussy lips. Thats what I'm looking for. Will be at world next week.
Thanks so much.
JvJimmy,
Unfortunately, they all have small or normal lips.
Also: Which Eva are you talking about, there are / have been so many?
O185cm Romanian.
Hessen Bub
10-07-11, 17:58
These girls are all above 7 looks and have GFE style.
If you dig in the World, you can find another treasure.
I can never believe Palace or Oase may beat such a strong line-up in World!Was at World this week. Was at Oase this week. Oase DOES beat World, line-up was even better that at World. Although I fucked a perfect 10 this week. 18 year old 171 perfect body Romanian.
HB
[QUOTE=Hessen Oase DOES beat World, line-up was even better that at World.[/QUOTE]Let's dream a bit. The ideal FKK cwould be World facility, Oase line-up, and Palace location.
Hessen Bub
10-08-11, 18:23
Let's dream a bit. The ideal FKK cwould be World facility, Oase line-up, and Palace location.Have to add GoldenTime pricing and ParkSaunaResidenz food. And World facility (indoors) is not that great, but I agree with Oase line-up and Palace location.
HB
Gfe Finder
10-08-11, 20:08
Let's dream a bit. The ideal FKK cwould be World facility, Oase line-up, and Palace location.
To add further: it would also have Bernds' service levels.
Have to add GoldenTime pricing and ParkSaunaResidenz food. And World facility (indoors) is not that great, but I agree with Oase line-up and Palace location.
HB
HeavensGate Pricing (30-35 entry, 35 / 20 min.) is also a good option. It's still ~75 / hour IIRC (i.e. standard NRW pricing.)
Hmm, this is a fun exercise! :D
Hessen Bub
10-08-11, 21:42
OK, for the pricing it should be GT for the time: 50/25/25/25/25. And Bernd's for CIM: 0 EUR. And GT for AV: 50 EUR.
HB
My travels to Frankfurt are short and precious. I am usually no longer in town than 36- 48 hrs. I don't have time for bullshit. I want the best. My preference is quantity and quality of girls (optically and servicewise). So I pick Oase and World. If I have only time for one club, I pick Oase.
For convenience, I always book a hotel less than 10 mnts ride to Oase / 30 mnts to World. I see no reason to live in downtown. Getting to the airport is easy.
Would I skip renting a car? No! Never! My sex life is way much more important than that.
Recently I was in Palace. I was not impressed with the line-up. I do not like the present set-up (bar area / uncomfy lounges). The kino was as filthy as Oase on a bad day. It will probably be a while until I revisit.
World, Mainhattan and Sharks all have same owners, right? Lately, most of the talk have been about Mainhattan and Sharks. But I cannot recall having read anything about the Mainhattan / Sharks line-ups being up there at World levels. Am I missing out about something here? Is the Mainhattan / Sharks line-ups really that good?
For the record: I have never visited Sharks, and I have only one outdated visit to Mainhattan in its early days. I hear rumours that some of my regular Oase girls have been at Mainhattan (Vivienne/Ambra), but I have no idea if they are there right now. I know the World weekend line-up fairly well.
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