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Anyone have any good suggestions for meeting higher class ladies who have good jobs and/or come from better families than the usual run of the mill DIA babe?
A friend once suggested I ask the local priest in the smaller towns there.
Others meet women in shopping centers, but that seems a bit weird to me.
Not gonna pay C.B. or some other dating site for the privilege of competing with 100 other foreigners for the same babe.
Really I a getting tired of the no job, come-rescue-me-at-your-expense type of woman there.
I want sex, but I want MORE than just sex. I want a woman who can contribute and not necessarily with money.
Tagged is the best place to find better educated Pinays, looking for a little fun. But they are usually a little older than on sites such as DIA etc and often are in their thirties, forties or even fifties. But, beware, many are married and seeking a little extra-nuptial fun or simply getting revenge on cheating husbands.
It’s a dodgy game, and not one that I would play knowingly any longer, particularly after I discovered that a spouse is legally protected in The Philippines if he kills his wife and/or her lover if caught in flagrante delicto! Hardly worth it anyway with so much unattached totty knocking around.You can find some decent girls on Tagged and oftentimes they'll be educated, but for the most part they're still struggling.
I think what Turdycurdyone is looking for is a girl who doesn't have to work if she doesn't want to -- a girl who went to a prestigious school, has her own driver, exclusively hangs out at Rockwell, pays for everything with her daddy's credit card, etc.
In order to meet these types of girls, you need to have/make friends who are already in "that" social circle. It's not easy, and I'd even go as far as to say it's impossible for the typical monger.
This is good advice!
These people have the morals of alley cat's... seriously.
I know you know filipinas and filipinos very well as I do too AV since we both live here.
I would just like to modify your post a little bit to read " Many of these people have the morals ......."
Pedantic I know but I work with quite a few incredibly intelligent and competent women (and men) who would seriously debate and reject your proposition that they have "morals of alley cats".
I know you know filipinas and filipinos very well as I do too AV since we both live here.
I would just like to modify your post a little bit to read " Many of these people have the morals ......."
Pedantic I know but I work with quite a few incredibly intelligent and competent women (and men) who would seriously debate and reject your proposition that they have "morals of alley cats".
Perhaps I was a bit blunt RK.
I'll accept that modification with the proviso that my comments apply to the majority of people that the average visitor will meet.
I know good people here also.
AV
Agreed. While I have enjoyed AV’s post over the years I think maybe he has run into a string of bad luck with the natives which is… (and will) obstructing his view.
If you call having sex with an unending string of women 'bad luck' then you are correct.
The head of a major division of the PNP, married with two kids.. fucked me (her advance).
My orthodondist, married & planning her first child with hubby.. fucked me, bareback I might add (her advance).
Vast numbers of young girls I meet in everyday activities, both poor & not, who knew nothing about me chatted me up & asked to be in my bed.
The beautiful 19 year old virgin college girl who spent 6 weeks coming to my place asking to 'stay with you' depsite me telling her over & over to keep it for a special guy. Gave up her viriginity & that night took a tearful photo of herself in my bedroom mirror holding up a piece of paper with the words 'I love you dog' addressed to her Pinoy BF in the province, then went to *my* computer & emailed Jurgen in Norway & Frank in Chicago to come soon to Manila because she loves him so much...
The girl I met in a mall by accident when i was looking for someone else, slowly cow girl'ing me moaning in pleasure answers the phone from British BF friend & tells him how much she loves him & misses him at the very moment I'm ejaculating inside her...
It's too weird!
It's too fuckin weird!
I'm not bitter, I'm not sad I need to be with *normal* people!!!
av,
i have read and enjoyed many of your reports here. but i am curious, why better off with educated well of taiwanese instead a similar filipina woman?
i welcome your opinion. i have met some wondeful taiwanese women here in the bay area and i tend to agree with you. but please give me your take on this. wishing you the best and thanking you for so many wonderul contributions here.
atlas57
thanks mate, i don't post much here anymore because for the most part people don't want to hear it.
telling the truth about this place is seen as spoiling peoples fun, they're all here to celebrate their sexual excess's.
look i don't want to be seen as bagging pinoys out of sour grapes, far from it.
i've experienced had every man's dream of promiscuous sex with many gorgeous stunning willing young (and older) women.
but sooner or later you need more then ejaculation, at least i do.
yes i know guy's here who spend every day planning & executing drinking & whoring binges seemingly endlessly.
and there are retired fella's here happily married to plain but loyal little farmers daughters.
i'm not keen on marriage or ltr but if it is to be, the woman better be someone i can have a decent conversation with, feel respect for & not be a massive financial burden on me.
very, very, difficult to find in pi.
i'm sad for all the huge numbers of guy's that impulsively grab some lbfm & trot her off to the embassy for the paperwork.
lambs to the slaughter...
personal preference is also part of it.
ok i can appreciate every woman has her own allure, otherwise how could i enjoy sex with so many pinay's?
but as time goes by i have come back to my real lifelong passion - chinese or korean women.
i find them sexiest, smartest & most interesting of all nationalities in sea.
i'm at the stage in life i can afford & appreciate the finer things, that includes my women.
pi is considered as the poor brown trash of asia for good reason.
i now return you to your regular mongering activities.. ;)
av
Wicked Roger
10-28-10, 03:36
If you call having sex with an unending string of women 'bad luck' then you are correct.
Gave up her viriginity & that night took a tearful photo of herself in my bedroom mirror holding up a piece of paper with the words 'I love you dog' addressed to her Pinoy BF in the province, then went to *my* computer & emailed Jurgen in Norway & Frank in Chicago to come soon to Manila because she loves him so much...
The girl I met in a mall by accident when i was looking for someone else, slowly cow girl'ing me moaning in pleasure answers the phone from British BF friend & tells him how much she loves him & misses him at the very moment I'm ejaculating inside her...
It's too weird!
It's too fuckin weird!
I'm not bitter, I'm not sad I need to be with *normal* people!!!
Nice succinct FR about why I like PI so much AV...I consider us 'normal' despite rumours to the contrary
Another one for the collection is the 18 year old who after spending some time being 'educated' in the classics used my laptop to chat to her USA boyfriend telling how she msised him..blah, blah, blah...while I was fondling her juicy parts. He wanted to cam with her but she said it was not working (LOL) so I saw him .... weird wonderful exciting odd and very 'normal' for many pinays :p
PS Should we have a competition to guess Jerkoff's last handle? 4 FRs and four insightful (ROTFLMAO) and meaningful (less) drivel...definitely not a newbie
TurdyCurdyOne
10-28-10, 05:52
Many thanks to you for your good reply and also to all the others for theirs.
You have some very good suggestions I had not thought of.
It is easier if you work and live in Phils. these are the girls you find working in the office buildings in Marketing, HR, etc like in Makati and business districts across the country. If you don't live or work in phils. only thing I can think of is public areas like the more upscale malls (I quote not the typical Mongering malls with all the jobless girls hunting), grocery stores - strike up a conversation, church for some if you are a regular ;), stay at more upscale business hotels and you will meet filipinas and other ladies staying there on business trips - the hotel gym, restaurant, & bars are good to strike a conversation. Try to get invitations to some of the balls and or events typically hosted by corporations - Like PAL hosted a theater play a few months ago with the who's who of phils invited. Please a social network of professional Filipino friends and hangout.
If you want the so call "good" and "professional" girl. Go to places opposite of what's suggested on this website. Meaning stay away from all mongering locations (e.g. malls, bars, discos, etc.), including mongering friendly hotels when you want to meet that girl. Maybe then you have a 50% guarantee that she is a "good" girl. If you are serious about her, really get to know her circle of friends, family, her social network online accounts like Facebook. If there's a skeleton you will find it. Good luck.
Riclagriclag
10-28-10, 06:50
To Amavida I don't have PM rights so here it goes. Hi, I have the asian flu, I've been going to KMP's in the Prov, RI area about 20x strictly Rub and tugs. I would walk a mile to see a pretty Korean girl shit. Drop dead korean and Chinese they are bomb. I'm 57 I have the kor/chi addiction for about 2 yrs. I've been going to other places Sosua, DR 5x. The Dominican's are getting very agressive and want more every year. I also go to Aruba I visit the columbian girls that are imported by the bar owners in Aruba. I want to experience other women. So I'm currently researching So Asia. Predominatly The phillipiens, So. Korea, japan and Pattaya. I would like to go for 3 weeks to 1 of these countries. I chose these because 1. The women are less maintainance then American? 2. Its very cheap as opposed to USA and 3. My strong desire to be with asian women. I don't know any language other then a little of Spanish and some greetings in Korean. I started looking at Pattaya. I heard so much about it in the DR forums (google **** Domincan). Thats what got me started. I next researched some youtube sites for So. Korea. Then lastly I youtubed Angeles City. I especially enjoyed this guy's blog (Dru's angeles city). It seems he dates from the dating forums mostly when he's in Angeles city as opposed to a few times that he barfines girls. It was fun watching his blog adventures. Anyway I would enjoy hearing comments. Ps Chinese and Korean women wouldn't give me the time of day if I was walking past them in the USA. I don't know why. When I go to trade shows is when they smile and talk. Thats all.
Rick
Excuse my spelling.
AMAVIDA;
Great info, Not the facts. The feel of it all. Guys running down to the embassy with the papers in thier hands. The cherry girl hurting the prov. Boy. This way of putting stuff is great for me. I have been to the embassy once already.
I need to remind myself that yes I want the long term but on the same conditions you mentioned. I can live with the young loyal farmers daughter. Who is honest also. It does work for some.
Thanks for taking the time. It has helped me.
There have been a bunch of posts about finding women who are self sufficient, and are also very sexually adventurous.
There are women of this type in the Philippines.
I look for them predominantly using Cherry Blossoms, because it has a superior search engine. Without a decent search engine, you can waste innumerable hours looking at profile after profile with no success.
It costs a bit, but offers a return on investment which cannot be ignored.
My criteria are tall, thin, 25 to 35, no babies, in or near capital cities.
And I find them. Women who have regular jobs, never ask for money, are very horny, will try most sexual activities, and can hold up their end of a conversation.
They are not the most beautiful, usually don't have big tits and are definitely not up themselves.
But they are interesting, enjoyable to be with for extended periods of time, and provide me with as much sex as I can handle, and more, such that I don't need to be chasing tail while they are at work, or are not with me for some reason.
But, like anything worth having, you have to put in the investment, put in the effort.
G
To Amavida I don't have PM rights so here it goes. Hi, I have the asian flu, I've been going to KMP's in the Prov, RI area about 20x strictly Rub and tugs. I would walk a mile to see a pretty Korean girl shit. Drop dead korean and Chinese they are bomb. I'm 57 I have the kor/chi addiction for about 2 yrs. I've been going to other places Sosua, DR 5x. The Dominican's are getting very agressive and want more every year. I also go to Aruba I visit the columbian girls that are imported by the bar owners in Aruba. I want to experience other women. So I'm currently researching So Asia. Predominatly The phillipiens, So. Korea, japan and Pattaya. I would like to go for 3 weeks to 1 of these countries. I chose these because 1. The women are less maintainance then American? 2. Its very cheap as opposed to USA and 3. My strong desire to be with asian women. I don't know any language other then a little of Spanish and some greetings in Korean. I started looking at Pattaya. I heard so much about it in the DR forums (google **** Domincan). Thats what got me started. I next researched some youtube sites for So. Korea. Then lastly I youtubed Angeles City. I especially enjoyed this guy's blog (Dru's angeles city). It seems he dates from the dating forums mostly when he's in Angeles city as opposed to a few times that he barfines girls. It was fun watching his blog adventures. Anyway I would enjoy hearing comments. Ps Chinese and Korean women wouldn't give me the time of day if I was walking past them in the USA. I don't know why. When I go to trade shows is when they smile and talk. Thats all.
Rick
Excuse my spelling.
Hehe yeah man it's infectious :-)
BTW was there a question in there?
ps apologies for not editing the post guys, Im on my cell phone web browser
There have been a bunch of posts about finding women who are self sufficient, and are also very sexually adventurous.
There are women of this type in the Philippines.
I look for them predominantly using Cherry Blossoms, because it has a superior search engine. Without a decent search engine, you can waste innumerable hours looking at profile after profile with no success.
It costs a bit, but offers a return on investment which cannot be ignored.
My criteria are tall, thin, 25 to 35, no babies, in or near capital cities.
And I find them. Women who have regular jobs, never ask for money, are very horny, will try most sexual activities, and can hold up their end of a conversation.
They are not the most beautiful, usually don't have big tits and are definitely not up themselves.
But they are interesting, enjoyable to be with for extended periods of time, and provide me with as much sex as I can handle, and more, such that I don't need to be chasing tail while they are at work, or are not with me for some reason.
But, like anything worth having, you have to put in the investment, put in the effort.
G
Good post gangles & very true.
I stopped using dating sites years ago but i agree with you about cb & the better ones.
My only problem with those girls that you mention is the looks issue. So much eye candy types on tap that i don't think i could remain faithful to a plain one here.
But that's that's just me.
I've become the perpetual bachelor Hehe ;)
it's time for a magerita. Cheers!
AV
Wicked Roger
10-28-10, 21:25
My only problem with those girls that you mention is the looks issue. So much eye candy types on tap that i don't think i could remain faithful to a plain one here.
But that's that's just me.
I've become the perpetual bachelor Hehe ;)
it's time for a magerita. Cheers!
AV
Not just you Amavida :D Find a girl who likes you to have other girls and enjoys while you watch her with either gender....you are 'faithful' as she is 'faithful' Perfect match IMHO and lovely jubbly
Nice succinct FR about why I like PI so much AV...I consider us 'normal' despite rumours to the contrary
Another one for the collection is the 18 year old who after spending some time being 'educated' in the classics used my laptop to chat to her USA boyfriend telling how she msised him..blah, blah, blah...while I was fondling her juicy parts. He wanted to cam with her but she said it was not working (LOL) so I saw him .... weird wonderful exciting odd and very 'normal' for many pinays
Hehehe :-)) yeah Roge' PI is right up there at the top of the world wickedness league!
As a devil in rehab i still get the itch when i read your very wicked antics, you naughty devil.
Did you see that post on the Angeles thread from a guy who challenged a girl to bareback him an hour before her os Bf arrived on the plane?
Classic!
I laughed & thought how many times have I done that man? :-)
Oops my horns are starting to show ;-)
I've had my fill of such utter debauchery, I need to regain my mental balance & karma.
Carry on your good work keeping us amused with your adventures from the most debased country on earth!
AV
Not just you Amavida :D Find a girl who likes you to have other girls and enjoys while you watch her with either gender....you are 'faithful' as she is 'faithful' Perfect match IMHO and lovely jubbly
Hey man! Im in rehab! Take that crack away from me!!
Ooh the itch! The itch!
Hehehe! :-)
GoodEnough
10-28-10, 23:01
I fully understand AV's well-placed cynicism, and his desire to feel "normal" again. It's a feeling, I think, that's shared by lots of us to live here. However, I am not sure that self-imposed abstention is the cure. The problem is that the factors that contribute to the cynical outlook are all around you, and there's no escape if you remain here.
GE
Wicked Roger
10-29-10, 06:22
I fully understand AV's well-placed cynicism, and his desire to feel "normal" again. It's a feeling, I think, that's shared by lots of us to live here. However, I am not sure that self-imposed abstention is the cure. The problem is that the factors that contribute to the cynical outlook are all around you, and there's no escape if you remain here.
GE
GE
You make a good observation and I have always wondered what I would be like if I lived in PI like you and others...would I go into my shell and try rehab, would I get more wicked and burn out...such challenging questions and one day maybe I should find out.
But seriuosly, I think there is a lot of temptation and if I was in PI I would likely find it hard to resist, at least for a time. Although my ideal siutation would be as I described below and I am roughly in that now...lots of time to play alone and play together... a very naughty girl indeed. And lots of time to educate teh young pinays about the wicked ways of fornication
And of course if I was living PI I could not resist but to place temptation in others paths...just to see if they could resist as much as I would :D
......... It's a feeling, I think, that's shared by lots of us to live here. However, I am not sure that self-imposed abstention is the cure. The problem is that the factors that contribute to the cynical outlook are all around you, and there's no escape if you remain here.
GE
Absolutely correct GE.
Abstention is definitely NOT the answer.
I say "Everything in moderation, including moderation".
As I said in another thread (or maybe earlier in this one- I forget), I seek quality over quantity these days.
I live here; I have an occupation that requires me to be discreet in mongering activity; I am surrounded every day by all manner of temptations including the unexpected propositions from "left field" that suddenly pop up out of nowhere (similar to the female cop that AV referred to in his post).
I am no longer reckless in the pursuit of pussy. I am now a much more discerning monger. My slower pace is both age-related and also related to my need for discretion.
WR would be a very interesting case study if ever he settled in the PI. The research data would rapidly accumulate and it would require a whole team of researchers to decipher the data and a whole weekend conference to make sense of it.
My guess is he would become even more wicked more often, and burn out rather than go into his shell.
But I also suspect the burn out would not last forever, and the phoenix would arise from the ashes.
Wicked Roger
10-29-10, 10:20
I say "Everything in moderation, including moderation".
WR would be a very interesting case study if ever he settled in the PI. The research data would rapidly accumulate and it would require a whole team of researchers to decipher the data and a whole weekend conference to make sense of it.
My guess is he would become even more wicked more often, and burn out rather than go into his shell.
But I also suspect the burn out would not last forever, and the phoenix would arise from the ashes.
I am doing things in moderation...:p
If the researcher is cute slim etc then perfect, happy to do the case study...:D
But me in shell....well imagine that, me quiet, restrained ..burned out...well always V and C :p
Check your emails RK....peachy times :)
A clever plan. Good to know, Gangles. I had a good time with a CB girl in Manila recently, a 19-year-old sweetie. Works for an internet cafe.
Met two other CB girls in Cebu, too. One was a pretty city girl whose first request was to buy her a fairly expensive cell phone at Ayala Mall. I declined. The other was equally cute from the province and she wanted nothing but emails me constantly professing her love. I gotta find the happy medium.
I will return to my original plan of dating exclusively nurses or nursing students - preferably with big knockers :). I have not met any stupid nurses and usually they are very nice.
I fully understand AV's well-placed cynicism, and his desire to feel "normal" again. It's a feeling, I think, that's shared by lots of us to live here. However, I am not sure that self-imposed abstention is the cure. The problem is that the factors that contribute to the cynical outlook are all around you, and there's no escape if you remain here.
GE
Sometimes in the past i would challenge myself just how crazy this place could be.
My favourite memory is walking down the street on a boring errand in a CBD area far from red light districts thinking 'i bet i can have any woman on this street'.
As i walked i noticed a really pretty well dressed one in the crowd in tight jeans, tight denim jacket carrying a motorcycle helmet. All the local guys eyes were on her.
We drew level at the street corner waiting for traffic, I glanced at her with a little smile, she did the same. We both did a double take, i smiled again and remarked how hot it was.
She asked me where i was going in that filipono way, i was actually going to the hardware but i thought fast & i said " Im going to a hotel where its cool, wanna come?"
I walked her to the nearest hotel, booked a room & 5 mins later i was in the room ravaging her gorgeous 22 year old body.
Spent 3 exhausting hours with multiple mutual orgasms then we showered & left when she mentioned her bf was waiting for her at the markets (so that's why the cp was ringing off the hook). Exchanged cp numbers & parted with her saying the L word.
Never saw her again.
Animalistic.
Crazy.
Delicious.
Memories...
AV
GoodEnough
10-29-10, 23:30
A clever plan. Good to know, Gangles. I had a good time with a CB girl in Manila recently, a 19-year-old sweetie. Works for an internet cafe.
Met two other CB girls in Cebu, too. One was a pretty city girl whose first request was to buy her a fairly expensive cell phone at Ayala Mall. I declined. The other was equally cute from the province and she wanted nothing but emails me constantly professing her love. I gotta find the happy medium.
I will return to my original plan of dating exclusively nurses or nursing students - preferably with big knockers :). I have not met any stupid nurses and usually they are very nice :).
I get fairly frequent PMs from guys who want to meet "normal" women in Davao, and have suggested frequently, both in my responses and in posts, that those wanting to meet intelligent women should grab a newspaper and some coffee and just hang around a nursing school campus. Within an hour this activity would result in more phone numbers than anyone could reasonably use. To my knowledge, no one has ever followed this advice. I guess it would require too much effort, but it would, for sure, be effective.
GE
Wicked Roger
10-30-10, 11:39
I get fairly frequent PMs from guys who want to meet "normal" women in Davao, and have suggested frequently, both in my responses and in posts, that those wanting to meet intelligent women should grab a newspaper and some coffee and just hang around a nursing school campus. Within an hour this activity would result in more phone numbers than anyone could reasonably use. To my knowledge, no one has ever followed this advice. I guess it would require too much effort, but it would, for sure, be effective.
GE
Sensible advice GE but many guys visit Davao as an afterthought with other cities on the radar first, so they need a 'quick fix'. Time is of the esssence and many dont have a long time in Davao
However, having been to Davao and seen the ladies I was impressed and there are lots of nurses in Davao
I thought Barba was hanging around the college with his toungue hanging out :D but maybe that is not the best way to attract the 'right' sort of girl
But seriously he is a LT visitor and guy like him would find that strategy successful am sure
Cunning Stunt
10-31-10, 18:15
Nurse enjoying her lunch:D.
Member #4491
11-02-10, 13:03
Mate,
I never make it that far. And who has hours to spend on collecting phone numbers?
Barba in Thailand
FreebieFan
11-03-10, 05:06
She asked me where i was going in that filipono way, i was actually going to the hardware but i thought fast & i said " Im going to a hotel where its cool, wanna come?"
I walked her to the nearest hotel, booked a room & 5 mins later i was in the room ravaging her gorgeous 22 year old body.
Spent 3 exhausting hours with multiple mutual orgasms then we showered & left when she mentioned her bf was waiting for her at the markets (so that's why the cp was ringing off the hook). Exchanged cp numbers & parted with her saying the L word.
Never saw her again.
Animalistic.
Crazy.
Delicious.
Memories...
AVI love those random moments. Prior to a trip last year I'd exchanged a total of 4 " "how are you " "I'm fine" messages with a DIA hottie. She had given me gave me her number in one of the 4 messages. I duly arrived in Manila.
I sent her one text one saying I would be in Market Market at a certain time. At the appointed time she replied that she was at the given spot.
We met and walked to my car.
Like you, we were in the sack 15 minutes later having exchanged a total of 20 words to establish our "relationship".
After sex I asked her why so quiet and she explained that she wanted to see what it was like to have sex with a total stranger. She said she enjoyed. I know I did.
Bit of a lurker on the Asia boards; but, I'll say this AV knows what he's talking about when he describes pinays as the 'poor brown trash of SE asia. '
Over the years I've had serious relationships with pinays, Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, Korean, Malay and even an Indonesian girl.
If you want (and can compete) for a girl with brains, beauty and character you better be chasing after an educated Korean, Chinese or maybe a tough little Vietnamese girl. Japanese, they're a bit strange and a little xenophobic.
If you want a non-judgemental, LBFM that thinks you're a rock star, even if you aint, best get your fat ass to the PI my friend!
The real problem with pinays is the silence. You fuck them. And then. Nothing. Nothing to talk about. No opinions on anything of interest beyond pocket books, crap music, crap food and the trivial, small world that is the PI. If you're educated, motivated, worldly. The silence is the real killer!
That's why I could never marry a pinay!
Neon Noodle
11-11-10, 18:50
Bit of a lurker on the Asia boards; but, I'll say this AV knows what he's talking about when he describes pinays as the 'poor brown trash of SE asia. '
Over the years I've had serious relationships with pinays, Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, Korean, Malay and even an Indonesian girl.
If you want (and can compete) for a girl with brains, beauty and character you better be chasing after an educated Korean, Chinese or maybe a tough little Vietnamese girl. Japanese, they're a bit strange and a little xenophobic.
If you want a non-judgemental, LBFM that thinks you're a rock star, even if you aint, best get your fat ass to the PI my friend!
The real problem with pinays is the silence. You fuck them. And then. Nothing. Nothing to talk about. No opinions on anything of interest beyond pocket books, crap music, crap food and the trivial, small world that is the PI. If you're educated, motivated, worldly. The silence is the real killer!
That's why I could never marry a pinay!I think its very wrong to say all are like that. You can't paint them all with one brush. Maybe lots in the PI are, but can't be said for all. All of the Filipina I have been with and know all are good conversationalist. Maybe not the smartest around but still could hold a good conversation on plenty of subjects. They were all educated and most are OFW, maybe that has something to do with it.
It would also depend on where your pulling your women from. If you want a woman with worldly views and who can talk about politics and other various things then the mall or bars might not be the best place to find them. They might not be the majority but they exist.
FreebieFan
11-12-10, 01:25
If you want (and can compete) for a girl with brains, beauty and character you better be chasing after an educated Korean, Chinese or maybe a tough little Vietnamese girl. Japanese, they're a bit strange and a little xenophobic.
If you want a non-judgemental, LBFM that thinks you're a rock star, even if you aint, best get your fat ass to the PI my friend!
The real problem with pinays is the silence. You fuck them. And then. Nothing. Nothing to talk about. No opinions on anything of interest beyond pocket books, crap music, crap food and the trivial, small world that is the PI. If you're educated, motivated, worldly. The silence is the real killer!
That's why I could never marry a pinay!I guess it depends on how you approach the girls and what you talk to them about. I've had great post bedbouncing conversations with most of my girls and we still chat regualrly even if we don't bonk regualrly. Maybe the ones you have nmet are less educated and less interesting. Personally I find the girls I mete to be fun funny and fine company. I'm often never sure if we should go for a drink or a fuck as both are good times.
You may want to vary your approach for better results. I've certainly seen no difference in them with an Indonesian or Malaysian cutie and I've lived in all places. Oh and I've been married to a Pinay for over 20 years.
Whatsgoingon
11-12-10, 08:43
I experienced the 5 minute conversation about nothing last night to my recent "gf"......but I have also a friend in Manila who is a Mgr in one of the call centres, has traveled around the world and we can have good conversations about anything. I was recently in Italy and we spoke about the Vatican etc etc.
I have a wife that wants to talk all the time and it sometimes fucks me off so maybe the contrast is sometimes good !!!
What I cant deal with is trying to understand what makes Pinays tick and working out which are real scammers and would lie to anyone for money and those that genuinely like me.....it was hard enough with western women but these girls are on a different planet.
Whatsgoingon
11-12-10, 08:48
Some advice pls from those that have visited the family in the province.
I am bringing a girl back from Dubai who is out of her depth, is almost suicidal and needs a break. She is broke and refuses to sleep anyone. I was due to be in Manila anyway so the trip to Leyte is not much more hassle and I can airmile her back to Manila.
However she wants to introduce me to her parents and has "fallen in love" with me!!
I know they have no ac no tv live in a very poor home which doesnt bother me, I can live like that for a few days. I just want to make sure she gets home.
I know its not really related to mongering but any advice on how to deal with the family would be good.........
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I know its not really related to mongering but any advice on how to deal with the family would be good.........
Where does one start?
I think a lot of it will depend on you and your resolve before you arrive and afterwards.
If the family turns out to honest, toiling, non-scamming people then it will be difficult for you to NOT want to give them something to brighten their days.
Even if you decide not to, life will go on for them as before.
If they turn out to be money-grabbers and difficult to deal with, then you can just drop the girl off and skedaddle off out of there asap.
I will guess it will be the former, and you will have a wonderful few days living with nothing and you will empty your wallet when you leave and feel really good about it on the way home
This time last year I did exactly that.
The gf had taken her annual leave from Doha, and wanted me to come with me to the family house.
Way out of teh way place. No runing water. The first one awake in the morning pomped water from teh well with a hand pump and filled teh tubs and basins in the house.
Mum cooked over a wood fire.
No TV.
had a great time. He is a rice farmer, explained his farming system. She a housewife. Two young cousins going to school.
We ate the rice that he grew, the chickens in the yard, the fish that he caught, fruit from the trees.
But I bought some vegetables and some milk. Plus some instant coffee and tea bags.
Two friends took us to where we needed to go on the back of their motor bikes. We walked around the place. She went to visit her old primary school, and I gave an impromptu address about Australia. Same with her high school.
We were welcomed everywhere. read story books to the kids in English, taught them western nursery rhymes.
She bought a washing machine for her mother, but mum would not use it. We stripped off and washed together with the rest of the family in the house.
Lovely. The truly simple life.
We were waved off with farewells and tears.
They are dead straight, honest, reliable. Not quite middle class, but not totally subsistence farmers either.
You can learn a great deal if you keep an open mind.
G
Some advice pls from those that have visited the family in the province.
I am bringing a girl back from Dubai who is out of her depth, is almost suicidal and needs a break. She is broke and refuses to sleep anyone. I was due to be in Manila anyway so the trip to Leyte is not much more hassle and I can airmile her back to Manila.
However she wants to introduce me to her parents and has "fallen in love" with me!!
I know they have no ac no tv live in a very poor home which doesnt bother me, I can live like that for a few days. I just want to make sure she gets home.
I know its not really related to mongering but any advice on how to deal with the family would be good.........
I have visited girls home couple of times. One was near Baybay, Leyte. I was dating this 19 year old girl who I met online. Flew her many times to Manila and stayed with her a week at a time. Very pretty GFE. Anyway she kept on asking me to visit her house, even her mom asked me to come whenever she was on the phone. On a whim I decided to go there mainly because wanted to see the local area. Flew to Tacloban with her. We were met by atleast 8 people her father, mother, sister, aunt and some cousins. They rented a big van( I paid). Right out of the airport they all decided that they are hungry and stopped at a roadside barbecue place ( I paid). From tacloban to baybay it took approx 2 hours. By looking at her people I knew they were very poor and decided to stay in Baybay hotel mainly in order not to put them in trouble treating me. Initial plan was to stay at her place for a week. They dropped me at the hotel and the girl went home woith her folks promising to come ack in a couple of hours. She did come back in a borrowed moped and kept that moped to take me around everywhere. She was attending school ( I supported) Leyte state college.
Next day she said her parents has invited us for dinner and she wanted buy things for dinner ( I paid). In the evening she came and picked me up drove about 45 minutes to her place. A tiny house with 2 rooms and a kitchen and a bath /toilet with a hole. I had brought 2 bottles of duty free whisky and I gave to her parents. All the neighbours were curios to see me and I would say close to 50 people came to see me. All smiled and some talked little. The girl had her own room, she said so we went in there and fooled around little it because she wanted in her own bed. Suddenly dinner was ready and only two plates were there one for me and the other for the girl. They served pork and rice only. It was delicious but I dare not help myself to a big portion because I felt there was not enough food for all. The girl finished her dinner fast and the same plate was washed and her father was served in that. I figured by this time they had only two decent plates. So I finished fast. At that time her uncle and aunt came who has a farm nearby. They were served in the same plates. Uncle tried to convince me to invest in his farm by buying farm machinery and he said can make good money in business. I showed interest just to be polite. Pretty soon I was tired of the whole thing and told the family I need to go. The father wanted to take me fishing next day. I said I will let him know. Back in the room I told the girl I wanted go stay in Ormoc because the hotel I was staying is not good. We had a good time in Ormoc.
The whole experience put me off so much that whenever the girls ask me to visit their place I would decline.
I need some basic restroom facilities and running water in order to stay. I was also afraid of catching something and getting sick. But the people are extremely friendly.
So I would say if you want to visit a girl's place it is ok as long as you stay in a hotel. Also be aware that you need to pay for everything even if they host the dinner.
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Hi Sammon,
I would agree of all in your great post.
In around 20 yrs of non-mongering Phils. (I have been bravely married to Pinay twice) I only can share with you that I experienced all the same.
My conclusion from this:
avoid meeting family of the girls.
you will experience just the same what sammon described very well.
I am CLEAR about that to all girls. If they want me to meet their family I DECLINE POLITELY and give the reason: " I am sorry, I know Pinoy mentality and I dont want to raise fal,se hopes in them because what you knw from my profile already: I am NOT marriage minded "
PERIOD and no further discussion needed.
Cheers,
ram
I think its very wrong to say all are like that. You can't paint them all with one brush. Maybe lots in the PI are, but can't be said for all.True. The pinay that I had a serious relationship with was raised and college educated in the United States.. She could carry a decent conversation, plus give me a great blowjob!
But, girls I met in the PI or greater SE Asia, geez! Nothing! Nada! And I'm even talking about 'nice' girls in college.
Member #4491
11-14-10, 18:17
Whatsgoingon, "visiting the family" is a clear signal unless you do not state your purpose of NOT being/getting serious with her. I visited several families but have "just a dear friend" tattooed in my fore head (and on my fore skin). I love to visit such homes. As Gangles describes, it opens up for so many great experiences.
On the topic of not being able to have conversations with Pinays. Try some Thai girls. I did the last weeks and that my friends was great sex, the best care ever from a woman, but less substancial conversation than I used to have with my pet rabbit.
I met my share of Pinays and would say it is a normal distribution between all types of personalities. I often pursuit talkative and curious girls, and never had a problem to find such down in sunny Davao. Not Schopenhauer or Hegel, but interesting enough.
Barba
I've done that, mostly its been positive, and a real learning experience.
- One girl's family lived in a shack withing a few yards of a river and the bay and only a few feet above water level. One child was sick with a fever. I don't remember being hit on for anything. Funny I remember as I walked in with her a neighbor said "ah Vina is going to be married soon". haha
- One was one of those 15-20 people come into the house to see me. I sprang for a lunch for about 10 or so. Also a child with a fever in a room next door. I gotta remember to bring little presents or candy for kids, or maybe just aspirin and antibiotics?
- One trip into central Mindanao, again a bunch in a poor house. They had a "special needs" child there. A surprising thing, her dad had a small farm in the middle of the pineapple fields. We went up there and they cooked up a couple of pigs. Also they had horses! I enjoyed a ride with the girl around the fields. A nice sporty girl, but too skinny for my liking. I was out a few thousand pesos for the food and driver.
- One house there was a 1/2 white child there. I was told the father was American and disabled, and was divorcing the mom. What a dope. I picked the little girl up and she called me "daddy".
- One girl her mom and sister and her ran a road side resto, and lived in a squatters camp. They took me up into the hills to meet relatives. One was a manager at Dole, another was a policeman. We visited a nice hot spring in the mountains, and I toured some of the Dole plantation in Bukidnon. I was out a few thousand for the car and some lunches and resort fees.
- A girl I married and divorced. Her family were very nice, took care of me. When I shelled out for booze they managed to find money for a pig or chicken. Also trips for a bunch of them to local hot springs was nice. And a trip to see their "home country" in the real mountains. Saw people planting corn by hand, and hauling it out with horses. We couldn't see their old house as the river crossing was too deep for the van. Definitely some country girl potential in that place, but I could never show up on my own! I don't wanna add up how much they were into me in $ with the marriage and divorce overall!
So they were positive learning experiences for me, especially learning to nicely say 'no'. And a way to see some of the back country and learn stuff that I would not see on my own.
WestCoast1
11-14-10, 20:05
I've had both Jambo's experience, where the family was kind to me and asked for little or nothing. And I've had Sammon's experience, where they attempted to get every last nickel from my wallet.
You never know what you're going to get.
I have visited girls home couple of times. One was near Baybay, Leyte. I was dating this 19 year old girl who I met online. Flew her many times to Manila and stayed with her a week at a time. Very pretty GFE. Anyway she kept on asking me to visit her house, even her mom asked me to come whenever she was on the phone. On a whim I decided to go there mainly because wanted to see the local area. Flew to Tacloban with her. We were met by atleast 8 people her father, mother, sister, aunt and some cousins. They rented a big van( I paid). Right out of the airport they all decided that they are hungry and stopped at a roadside barbecue place ( I paid). From tacloban to baybay it took approx 2 hours. By looking at her people I knew they were very poor and decided to stay in Baybay hotel mainly in order not to put them in trouble treating me. Initial plan was to stay at her place for a week. They dropped me at the hotel and the girl went home woith her folks promising to come ack in a couple of hours. She did come back in a borrowed moped and kept that moped to take me around everywhere. She was attending school ( I supported) Leyte state college.
Next day she said her parents has invited us for dinner and she wanted buy things for dinner ( I paid). In the evening she came and picked me up drove about 45 minutes to her place. A tiny house with 2 rooms and a kitchen and a bath /toilet with a hole. I had brought 2 bottles of duty free whisky and I gave to her parents. All the neighbours were curios to see me and I would say close to 50 people came to see me. All smiled and some talked little. The girl had her own room, she said so we went in there and fooled around little it because she wanted in her own bed. Suddenly dinner was ready and only two plates were there one for me and the other for the girl. They served pork and rice only. It was delicious but I dare not help myself to a big portion because I felt there was not enough food for all. The girl finished her dinner fast and the same plate was washed and her father was served in that. I figured by this time they had only two decent plates. So I finished fast. At that time her uncle and aunt came who has a farm nearby. They were served in the same plates. Uncle tried to convince me to invest in his farm by buying farm machinery and he said can make good money in business. I showed interest just to be polite. Pretty soon I was tired of the whole thing and told the family I need to go. The father wanted to take me fishing next day. I said I will let him know. Back in the room I told the girl I wanted go stay in Ormoc because the hotel I was staying is not good. We had a good time in Ormoc.
The whole experience put me off so much that whenever the girls ask me to visit their place I would decline.
I need some basic restroom facilities and running water in order to stay. I was also afraid of catching something and getting sick. But the people are extremely friendly.
So I would say if you want to visit a girl's place it is ok as long as you stay in a hotel. Also be aware that you need to pay for everything even if they host the dinner.
I have also enjoyed my experiences in the province, and I think it really opens your eyes to what life is like for a good percentage of the population.
I have also had a good number of bad experiences when dealing with my wife's family.
MY wife had money when I met her so we have always been pretty equal in the money department which is dam unusual for the country. The family's are a whole other ball game.
We finally sold our house and apartment building and moved are asses far enough away from them.
They never stop in their quest to get money out of our pockets. Every day brings a new emergency.
After I caught them stealing money from a small business we ran, I cut them off. That was about the time they threatened to kill me.
MY wife told me that it was just Filipino bola bola....call me silly but I get a little pissy when people do that.
When you have half wit neighbors with auto weapons, you have to take things seriously.
Quite honestly the pressure most of these girls are under to provide for the families is immense.
If you are just here for fun, there is absolutely no reason to be involved with the family.
If you are looking for a wife be prepared to support a bus load of dead beats.
Even though my wife was not like most Filipina, if I had to do it over I would just monger.
Cheers
GoodEnough
11-15-10, 11:40
As others have also pointed out, the family experience can go either way, but why take the risk? Unless you're deadlly serious about a woman who considers it important that you see where she come from. Even then, I'd give it some serious reflection before I decided.
GE
FreebieFan
11-15-10, 14:55
As others have also pointed out, the family experience can go either way, but why take the risk? Unless you're deadlly serious about a woman who considers it important that you see where she come from. Even then, I'd give it some serious reflection before I decided.
GEAnd thank goodness the stars were aligned when I chanced upon my wife and her family.
In 20 plus years they have asked for a loan twice for serious medical situations, at which I was happy to be the guarantor, but every centavo borrowed has been repaid in full. I was very lucky, fortunate to have lucked into a family who have self respect, integrity and a lack of interest in trying to screw the son in law.
If you are just here for fun, there is absolutely no reason to be involved with the family.
If you are looking for a wife be prepared to support a bus load of dead beats.
Even though my wife was not like most Filipina, if I had to do it over I would just monger.
Cheers
that´s exactly my words also
Whatsgoingon
11-18-10, 20:46
Cheers guys for the opinions. We are flying to manila next week, will let u know how if pans out.
avoid meeting family of the girls. you will experience just the same what sammon described very well. I am CLEAR about that to all girls. If they want me to meet their family I DECLINE POLITELY and give the reason: " I am sorry, I know Pinoy mentality and I dont want to raise fal,se hopes in them because what you knw from my profile already: I am NOT marriage minded " PERIOD and no further discussion needed.I applaud your honesty Ram. Wish more guys had their shit together like this.
Reasons to not visit given by others entail possible financial problems but more over consider the girl's loss of face, they are human beings with feelings after all. Face is a big thing in Asian countries & no small thing even in the west.
I have visited girls home couple of times. One was near Baybay, Leyte. I was dating this 19 year old girl who I met online. Flew her many times to Manila and stayed with her a week at a time. Very pretty GFE. Anyway she kept on asking me to visit her house, even her mom asked me to come whenever she was on the phone. On a whim I decided to go there mainly because wanted to see the local area. Flew to Tacloban with her. We were met by atleast 8 people her father, mother, sister, aunt and some cousins. They rented a big van (I paid). Right out of the airport they all decided that they are hungry and stopped at a roadside barbecue place (I paid). From tacloban to baybay it took approx 2 hours. By looking at her people I knew they were very poor and decided to stay in Baybay hotel mainly in order not to put them in trouble treating me. Initial plan was to stay at her place for a week. They dropped me at the hotel and the girl went home woith her folks promising to come ack in a couple of hours. She did come back in a borrowed moped and kept that moped to take me around everywhere. She was attending school (I supported) Leyte state college.
Next day she said her parents has invited us for dinner and she wanted buy things for dinner (I paid). In the evening she came and picked me up drove about 45 minutes to her place. A tiny house with 2 rooms and a kitchen and a bath / toilet with a hole. I had brought 2 bottles of duty free whisky and I gave to her parents. All the neighbours were curios to see me and I would say close to 50 people came to see me. All smiled and some talked little. The girl had her own room, she said so we went in there and fooled around little it because she wanted in her own bed. Suddenly dinner was ready and only two plates were there one for me and the other for the girl. They served pork and rice only. It was delicious but I dare not help myself to a big portion because I felt there was not enough food for all. The girl finished her dinner fast and the same plate was washed and her father was served in that. I figured by this time they had only two decent plates. So I finished fast. At that time her uncle and aunt came who has a farm nearby. They were served in the same plates. Uncle tried to convince me to invest in his farm by buying farm machinery and he said can make good money in business. I showed interest just to be polite. Pretty soon I was tired of the whole thing and told the family I need to go. The father wanted to take me fishing next day. I said I will let him know. Back in the room I told the girl I wanted go stay in Ormoc because the hotel I was staying is not good. We had a good time in Ormoc.
The whole experience put me off so much that whenever the girls ask me to visit their place I would decline.
I need some basic restroom facilities and running water in order to stay. I was also afraid of catching something and getting sick. But the people are extremely friendly.
So I would say if you want to visit a girl's place it is ok as long as you stay in a hotel. Also be aware that you need to pay for everything even if they host the dinner. Two weeks ago I flew to Tarlac and to meet my asawa's family. Asawa's family rented a van like you to transport everyone including her nephews and nieces to meet us at the airport. Their house is quite remote. 30 min by tricycle to town. I cannot bring myself to shit because her toilet stinks and look dirty. When they eat, flies come but they didn't bother. Filipinas have strong immune system. Yes, I also paid everything.
The next morning we rode to town to rent a room for 1400peso. Final day I paid 800peso for a goat as a substitute for me. You see goat you see me. I named it Ayoyo because I kept mispronounced the ex-president's surname. I asked her to polish her English before bringing her to Singapore to work.
My socially conservative ex, with whom I am still good friends, pointed out a fascinating phenomenon.
My ex has over 100 Facebook and Friendster women friends living in the Philippines. The percentage of these 100 who post sexy photos of themselves online is near zero. They wear jeans to the beach, etc. She also has about 16 friends in their twenties who have married older Westerners and gone abroad. After they went abroad, about 12 of these 16 started posting sexy pictures of themselves on Facebook and Friendster-bikini shots, etc.
And not just a few demurre, sitting-by-the-pool photos but dozens of check-out-the-goods photos, including French maid outfits, etc.
These are all hot good girls from Cebu and Mindanao, who graduated from college or dropped out of college to marry foreigners. None are former or current sex workers. Two were teachers. Prudish friends and family back in the Philippines can see these photos. My ex would be horrified at the thought of her former students seeing her in racy photos. One preacher's daughter from Cebu posted pics of herself in a thong and shear top, with front and back views.
Has anyone else noticed this phenomenon?
Maybe my ex has an unrepresentative sample of friends.
The potential motivations intrique me. Maybe more Filipinas than I thought are secret exhibitionists waiting for the freedom to show themselves. Maybe their husbands encouraged them, showing off the young beauty they managed to snag. Maybe they are unconsciously advertising their fecundity to other men one last time before they have children. (Two of the women removed their sexy photos right after they had their first child.) Maybe Filipinas new to the West think "When in Rome." I don't know what's going on, but seeing prudish women gone wild is sexy as hell.
And I have seen that cycle go full circle back to conservative attire. In divorce court time and time again.
Slippery f / k/a PLC
Fast Buck Artist
12-30-10, 02:06
My ex has over 100 Facebook and Friendster women friends living in the Philippines. The percentage of these 100 who post sexy photos of themselves online is near zero. They wear jeans to the beach, etc.
Bikinis and 2-piece swimsuits are expensive for an average filipina (600 pesos for a good one), 90% can't swim. Typical clothes they wear is older sister's jeans and 50 peso shirt from the used clothes heap at the ukay store. They go around in slumwear dreaming one day they might have the money to dress up like katrina halili
Given an opportunity, they'll wear what makes them look good. Enjoy while you can cause a filipina taken to USA will typically Double her weight in 4 years and you will not enjoy seeing her in a bikini anymore! ;)
Tally Wacker
12-30-10, 02:21
Hey buddy where's the photos of the preachers daughter? Yea your right prudish women going wild is hot!
I'm not sure but its possible the young filipinas marrying old guys from the West have tired of their old guy and never had a chance to be a crazy teenager and it just comes out later in life.
One preacher's daughter from Cebu posted pics of herself in a thong and shear top, with front and back views.
I don't know what's going on, but seeing prudish women gone wild is sexy as hell.
Given an opportunity, they'll wear what makes them look good. Enjoy while you can cause a filipina taken to USA will typically Double her weight in 4 years and you will not enjoy seeing her in a bikini anymore! .
I beg to differ, especially for my pinay wife who has gained less than 10 pounds in 20+ years. Her body is still silky smooth and gives me tingles when I see her naked. The best part is she has defied gravity for the most part and all her parts are still just as firm as when I met her.
Slim
Enjoy while you can cause a filipina taken to USA will typically Double her weight in 4 years and you will not enjoy seeing her in a bikini anymore! ;)Taken to Germany she will double her weight withing 4 WEEKS already. Especial watch the upper legs.
My experience twice.
Ram
Enjoy while you can cause a filipina taken to USA will typically Double her weight in 4 years and you will not enjoy seeing her in a bikini anymore! ;)Taken to Germany she will double her weight withing 4 WEEKS already. Especial watch the upper legs.
My experience twice. .
Ram
I lost my "Meet the Pinoy Parents" virginity a few months ago. . . It was not an altogether different experience from that described by Sammon below.
GF and I managed to slip into Zambo without being deluged by the relatives at the airport, but they. And all the friends and the neighbors. Showed up at the hotel unannounced and en masse the following morning. We all then went out for lunch (I paid) , during which I was asked all manner of peculiar questions. Of course, I didn't mind paying (and would have done so regardless) , but I couldn't help but notice afterwards that no one offered a word of thanks for doing so. Not a big deal, but a cultural clash to be sure and, in a slightly sleep-deprived state, it grated a tad.
Anyway, after lunch, a jeepney was procured to transport myself and the clan back to the home village (I paid) so that I could meet the remaining members of the clan who had not made the trek out to Zambo (read: the men). I am certainly no stranger to impoverished rural settlements, but the tiny dimensions of my GF's family's housing was eye-opening. After a bit of conversation, I was shown the family photo album. As it demonstrated, the family had fallen into poverty after my GF's ex-husband passed away. All quite sad, really.
After the village visit, the clan and I returned to the city to meet the GF's siblings. In attempting to pay the jeepney driver for his services, one of the clansters outside of my GF's family (who incidentally was the only one who spoke near perfect English) attempted to scam me out of about P500 (to her credit, my GF alerted me) , which again grated a tad. The visit to the sibling's abode was another invaluable education in the Filipino accommodations, but overall was very pleasant. I was even treated to my first Red Horse, which henceforth started what I think may become a lifelong addiction.
In the following days, the extended clan seemed to lose interest in me, which afforded me the opportunity to get to know my GF's mother a bit better. All in all, it was nice, even if I never once heard a word of thanks for buying the meals or assorted other amenities!
A bit of weirdness on the last day: my GF's mother never stopped by the hotel and had her phone switched off, so we both left without saying goodbye. It made me wonder what was really going on with the mother. Daughter dynamics, which have only grown more peculiar since.
A few days ago, my GF informed me that the infant child of one of her siblings had been diagnosed with a very serious illness and asked me if I could assist. I said, of course, but then incidentally asked her if she had any money left over in the P 85, 000 peso account I had set up for a couple of months back. She said there was nne left and then when I ventured to gently inquire as to what use it had been directed, she flew into a bit of an inconsolable state and said she was not going to accept my help after all and was going back to "work". . . A few hours later (after my GF had stormed off without accepting even taxi money) , I dug out the mother's number and arranged to send her some cash directly. For this, she was extremely grateful and thanked me profusely, but also enquired as to what my Christmas gift for her is!
This. And a steady stream of heart-breaking incidents involving said GF. Have led me to conclude that the world of Filipino "bars" is where sadists may dabble, but only true masochists dwell.
I have visited girls home couple of times. One was near Baybay, Leyte. I was dating this 19 year old girl who I met online. Flew her many times to Manila and stayed with her a week at a time. Very pretty GFE. Anyway she kept on asking me to visit her house, even her mom asked me to come whenever she was on the phone. On a whim I decided to go there mainly because wanted to see the local area. Flew to Tacloban with her. We were met by atleast 8 people her father, mother, sister, aunt and some cousins. They rented a big van (I paid). Right out of the airport they all decided that they are hungry and stopped at a roadside barbecue place (I paid). From tacloban to baybay it took approx 2 hours. By looking at her people I knew they were very poor and decided to stay in Baybay hotel mainly in order not to put them in trouble treating me. Initial plan was to stay at her place for a week. They dropped me at the hotel and the girl went home woith her folks promising to come ack in a couple of hours. She did come back in a borrowed moped and kept that moped to take me around everywhere. She was attending school (I supported) Leyte state college.
Next day she said her parents has invited us for dinner and she wanted buy things for dinner (I paid). In the evening she came and picked me up drove about 45 minutes to her place. A tiny house with 2 rooms and a kitchen and a bath / toilet with a hole. I had brought 2 bottles of duty free whisky and I gave to her parents. All the neighbours were curios to see me and I would say close to 50 people came to see me. All smiled and some talked little. The girl had her own room, she said so we went in there and fooled around little it because she wanted in her own bed. Suddenly dinner was ready and only two plates were there one for me and the other for the girl. They served pork and rice only. It was delicious but I dare not help myself to a big portion because I felt there was not enough food for all. The girl finished her dinner fast and the same plate was washed and her father was served in that. I figured by this time they had only two decent plates. So I finished fast. At that time her uncle and aunt came who has a farm nearby. They were served in the same plates. Uncle tried to convince me to invest in his farm by buying farm machinery and he said can make good money in business. I showed interest just to be polite. Pretty soon I was tired of the whole thing and told the family I need to go. The father wanted to take me fishing next day. I said I will let him know. Back in the room I told the girl I wanted go stay in Ormoc because the hotel I was staying is not good. We had a good time in Ormoc.
The whole experience put me off so much that whenever the girls ask me to visit their place I would decline.
I need some basic restroom facilities and running water in order to stay. I was also afraid of catching something and getting sick. But the people are extremely friendly.
So I would say if you want to visit a girl's place it is ok as long as you stay in a hotel. Also be aware that you need to pay for everything even if they host the dinner.
Member #4491
01-02-11, 00:54
Uzbekia, I feel for you. It is easy to tell you to pull your head out of your ass, but we are where we are in life. A mans need to feel like being a provider can be strong and lead him to many compromises. In my humble opinion feeding your ego this way is not a path to anything but disappointments, but that is just me. One could go on about how you teach these leachers that moral criminality pays, but then again they are just a result of their nature and nurture. In the end we are all both buyers and sellers. They sold and you bought. Good value is in the eye of the beholder. I would not accept this family to lick the dog shit from my shoes, and I mean no disrespect to your choice of girlfriend whatsoever. Your last sentence indicates that you know exactly what you are doing, so have fun.
My new year promise was more a realization. I need to minimize the amount of negative "energy fields" around me. Now this might sound that I spiced my brownies a bit to hard, but exactly the type of people and bars Uzbekia experienced is what I refer to. The options in the Philippines are virtually endless so I see no point in valuing yourself low. Be true to yourself, control chemical addictions so you can get the most bang or the buck once you decide to indulge, forgive your ego without nursing it and choose who you spend time with.
F*ck mates, I waisted half my life going for less than I could, and the last months I realized that also the tens or the twelves are just as hungry for attention, care, love and survival. All over the world. Mongering is a hobby but doing it with self respect is a philosophy. Thank you all philosophers here on ISG for not discriminating yourselves and sharing so amply.
All the best and my wishes for a great and juicy 2011!
Barba
Fast Buck Artist
01-03-11, 17:04
I said, of course, but then incidentally asked her if she had any money left over in the P 85, 000 peso account I had set up for a couple of months back. *snip* I dug out the mother's number and arranged to send her some cash directly. For this, she was extremely grateful and thanked me profusely, but also enquired as to what my Christmas gift for her is! You got to be trolling us.
That's too bad, Ram. I hope some of that weight went to her boobs! .No, I am sorry. Upper legs only (Oberschenkel).
Towelboy2010
01-28-11, 01:21
Hello. As I have been reading the forum lately, it seems that perhaps I should contact a few expats there in search of an honest Filipina for marriage and family. I am looking, very seriously – to find my soul-mate and start a small 1 child family.
I was burnt once by a Filipina (welcome aboard) and am therefore seeking advice from older and / or wiser individuals.
About me
• Age 55.
• Live in PA, USA.
• College degree in teaching, but do not teach.
• Work 2 jobs. Manage the maintenance shop on a PA airport & acting Sales Rep for a Home Improvements company.
• Very middle class, but with very little disposable income in the current economic crisis.
• Own home w / mortgage. 2300 sq ft on 2 acres.
• Fly a plane and do safety videos for the FAA and others. (no income. Strictly volunteer work)
• Married once to an American in 1984. Divorced 1990.
• Married to a Filipina 2009, but it was a bigamous marriage (her) and the annulment is underway.
• I NEVER had any children.
• I am fairly easy going; not demanding; decent looking & intelligent. I am open and honest to my dates.
I first visited SEA in 2003 with a buddy. I started "dating" in the Phils in late 2005. I had 4 online relationships leading to meetings.
1. Dolly. Dec 2005 meeting. No future.
2. Michelle. March 2007 meeting. Applied for visa but she changed her mind.
3. Julie. October 2007 meeting. No future.
4. Gazelle. March 2008 meeting; Jan 25, 2009 wedding in USA. July 2009 annulment proceedings started.
WHO I AM LOOKING FOR:
• No children.
• Believes in and practices Love as written in 1st Corinthians.
• Understands and accepts that marriage is a lifetime commitment.
• Educated & willing to work and have a career.
• Willing to help with housework & lawn care.
• Simple beauty (to my eye). No stunners as defined in this forum.
• Must be truthful to a fault. No liars, bull-shitters or story tellers.
• Here is a list of important personality traits in order of importance.
A. Cheerful.
B. Fun loving.
C. Clean & Organized.
D. Intelligent & Smart.
E. Hardworking.
F. Open, Honest & Truthful.
G. Communicative & Good Listener
H. Partially Independent.
I. Dependable.
J. Good Lover.
Greg London (thank you) has introduced me to a "female friend" who is 26 and seems to be exactly what I am looking for. Tho I am mostly concerned by the 30 year age difference. The 4 mentioned above were all mid to late 30's. I have learned from experience that you can never really know someone until you are FACE-to-FACE so despite that this girl seems perfect, I plan to meet several woman on my proposed trip there in March or April. She knows that already and is agreeable to it.
If anyone else wishes to assist me in my search, I value your advice.
If you know a woman who is looking for the same things I am and would be an honest and faithful wife, I would be happy to correspond with her.
Most important, I will treat anyone I meet with honesty and integrity.
Thanks in Advance, Bob
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Greg London (thank you) has introduced me to a "female friend" who is 26 and seems to be exactly what I am looking for. Tho I am mostly concerned by the 30 year age difference.
I have learned from experience that you can never really know someone until you are FACE-to-FACE so despite that this girl seems perfect, I plan to meet several woman on my proposed trip there in March or April. She knows that already and is agreeable to it.
If anyone else wishes to assist me in my search, I value your advice.
If you know a woman who is looking for the same things I am and would be an honest and faithful wife, I would be happy to correspond with her.
Most important, I will treat anyone I meet with honesty and integrity.
Thanks in Advance, BobWow you sure have compiled a comprehensive shopping list Bob.
But you really must draw on all of the previous bad experiences that you have had. I am absolutely in agreement with you that you MUST meet any potential partner FACE TO FACE before you make ANY judgements about her suitability. (CAPS are deliberate. For emphasis).
Very few women (especially pinays) are perfect. You just need to evaluate the pros and cons of each and then decide whether you can live with the cons, that is, are they manageable?
You have made a good start. I hope some guys will come to your assistance. I will PM you later when I confirm a prospect for you.
Chocha Monger
01-28-11, 09:00
Towelboy,
Like Red Kilt said you'll have to draw upon your past experiences and see what you can learn from the previous crime scenes. Take a long hard look at yourself and ask where you fucked up. Sometimes we don't really listen to what women are saying before we get involved with them. Maybe we listen superficially instead of reading between the lines and catching the red flags. Ironically, I developed this skill from interviewing potential employees and then started applying it in the game. Be prepared to start with a large group and eliminate those who do not meet your criteria. Feel free to be ruthless, it's your life and your money at risk. Do not let them know you're seeking a wife. It is the fastest way to fuck yourself. You may as well just get out and scream free visa to USA on the streets. They'll put on an act for you.
Find a girl who does things for you without being asked. Does she bring you food? Does she take your clothes home and wash it? If a Filipina gives a fuck about pleasing you it isn't that hard to find out. Get rid of any girl asking for money or hinting at it through hardluck stories. When you go out with her see if she looks out for your money. Does she steer you away from expensive (by local standards) items to more economical ones? Does she negotiate prices down for you on cabs and trikes? A Filipina worth a fuck would make sure that you're not being taken advantage of as a foreigner. Find a girl that is not too close or depends a lot on her family. It will save you trouble later. Always make it clear that you'll not be financially supporting their family from the start. Curb their expectations. I think you've already got that part down since you're looking for one with no kids. Dig into her past and then dig some more. A private investigator is money well spent for any marriage minded man. It's best to have an unbiased source of information apart from references from her family and friends. Don't give her money. Don't buy her gifts. Keep dining experiences simple and to a minimum. In other words try to eliminate things that may be incentives for her to stick around even if she secretly doesn't care much for you. Take some time for yourself and see how she reacts. Jealous and controlling is a problem. Don't let her see you off at the airport. If she can't trust you then you can't trust her.
Excellent advice.
Towelboy,
Like Red Kilt said you'll have to draw upon your past experiences and see what you can learn from the previous crime scenes. Take a long hard look at yourself and ask where you fucked up. Sometimes we don't really listen to what women are saying before we get involved with them. Maybe we listen superficially instead of reading between the lines and catching the red flags. Ironically, I developed this skill from interviewing potential employees and then started applying it in the game. Be prepared to start with a large group and eliminate those who do not meet your criteria. Feel free to be ruthless, it's your life and your money at risk. Do not let them know you're seeking a wife. It is the fastest way to fuck yourself. You may as well just get out and scream free visa to USA on the streets. They'll put on an act for you.
Find a girl who does things for you without being asked. Does she bring you food? Does she take your clothes home and wash it? If a Filipina gives a fuck about pleasing you it isn't that hard to find out. Get rid of any girl asking for money or hinting at it through hardluck stories. When you go out with her see if she looks out for your money. Does she steer you away from expensive (by local standards) items to more economical ones? Does she negotiate prices down for you on cabs and trikes? A Filipina worth a fuck would make sure that you're not being taken advantage of as a foreigner. Find a girl that is not too close or depends a lot on her family. It will save you trouble later. Always make it clear that you'll not be financially supporting their family from the start. Curb their expectations. I think you've already got that part down since you're looking for one with no kids. Dig into her past and then dig some more. A private investigator is money well spent for any marriage minded man. It's best to have an unbiased source of information apart from references from her family and friends. Don't give her money. Don't buy her gifts. Keep dining experiences simple and to a minimum. In other words try to eliminate things that may be incentives for her to stick around even if she secretly doesn't care much for you. Take some time for yourself and see how she reacts. Jealous and controlling is a problem. Don't let her see you off at the airport. If she can't trust you then you can't trust her.
GoodEnough
01-29-11, 02:10
The last couple of posts seem to suggest that there's some sort of universal litmus test for forming relationships here or perhaps in third world countries. I don't agree. I suggest forgetting the checklists, the completion of which only detract from the joy of meeting people. My advice is much simpler: relax and let things happen. Don't invent "tests" of woman's motivation and above all, don't worry about it. If a given woman interests you, then keep seeing her, and over time, you'll begin to understand her character.
It's also important to remember that Filipinas, and Asians in general, don't necessarily define love using the same hyperbolic, romanticized criteria (heavily influenced by Hollywood) used typically by Westerners. Many Asian ladies can be much more pragmatic than their American / European sisters, and the financial ability to provide a decent life is important to them and is often one of the criteria they use in thinking about a longer-term relationship.
Finally, I would cease worrying about age difference. No one here cares, though it might be an isolating condition in the judgmental atmosphere of the States. Come over. Enjoy yourself. And if you meet people in whom you may be truly interested in the longer term, allow some time for the relationship to develop. Remember too that many middle class Filipinas are as wary of Westerners as some of us are of them. We worry that they may be interested only in our money and they worry that we may only be interested in getting into their pants and then moving on to the next conquest. There's a confidence-building learning curve on both sides of the ro, ance equation.
GE
Hairy Wonder
01-29-11, 03:32
I tried to apply most of what Chocha Monger suggested with a Filipina girlfriend I had. She seemed to pass all the tests at first. I met her while she was working in Korea. When I told her that I had a trip to the Philippines planned, she encouraged me to go and have fun with lots of women. I thought I had found the best gf possible. It was several months later when she started revealing who she truly was. She complained many times about her family always wanting more money than she was sending. Then she started getting jealous about every woman that I had ever been involved with, and even the ones that were walking down the street. She even got jealous when I would spend time with my kids.
But this is not unique to Filipinas. I was married to a Korean for about 20 years, before I realized all the things about her that led to our divorce.
Bottom line is you take your chances with any woman, regardless of her nationality. I think GE's suggestion is best. Just go to the Philippines and enjoy yourself.
FreebieFan
01-29-11, 05:17
Towelboy,
Jealous and controlling is a problem. Don't let her see you off at the airport. If she can't trust you then you can't trust her.Well said Sir. Jealousy is all consuming disease but many Filipinas have it. If you don't answer a text within nano seconds of its delivery, some will assume you are fooling around. If they ask you " what are you doing " in a text, the subtext is " are you fucking my neighbours daughter " Find a girl who doesn't ask such questions and you will be saving yourself a lot of grief later.
If she talks to you in a suspicious way, asks why you are looking at an attractive girl, if she "accidently" checks the pockets of your clothes or wants to check your phone and the messages or your email, RUN FAR AND FAST!
Chocha Monger
01-29-11, 05:17
I tried to apply most of what Chocha Monger suggested with a Filipina girlfriend I had. She seemed to pass all the tests at first. I met her while she was working in Korea. When I told her that I had a trip to the Philippines planned, she encouraged me to go and have fun with lots of women. I thought I had found the best gf possible. It was several months later when she started revealing who she truly was. She complained many times about her family always wanting more money than she was sending. Then she started getting jealous about every woman that I had ever been involved with, and even the ones that were walking down the street. She even got jealous when I would spend time with my kids.
But this is not unique to Filipinas. I was married to a Korean for about 20 years, before I realized all the things about her that led to our divorce.
Bottom line is you take your chances with any woman, regardless of her nationality. I think GE's suggestion is best. Just go to the Philippines and enjoy yourself. True there are no hard and fast rules for flushing out a crazy ho regardless of nationality. My recommendations are only meant to be guidelines to help eager wife hunters hold themselves in check. I've dealt with hoes of all kinds. Some reveal their true selves in 5 minutes or less. The really dangerous ones can wait you out for 5 years, maybe more. Lots of patience and time are the only sure things that can unmask a woman's true motives. Think of courtship as two opposing snipers concealed on the battlefield. The first one to move and give away his position is usually the one who dies.
It's also important to remember that Filipinas, and Asians in general, don't necessarily define love using the same hyperbolic, romanticized criteria (heavily influenced by Hollywood) used typically by Westerners.
GEHello, GE,
I strongly have to disagree this. In my experience with pinay THEY ARE very influenced by Hollywood clichés when it comes to love matters. They think in a very romantic and idealistic way about love as a feeling and NOT love as an action of mutual give and take.
Atleast with the women I met.
Remember all of these Pinoy mellow romantic heart-breaking love songs which are on the lips of these girl day-in and day-out.
Just my humble opinion.
Ram
GoodEnough
01-29-11, 12:28
True enough Rampana. I guess I should have tried to distinghuish between reasonably educated, middle class Filipinas, who are some of the most hard core pragmatists I've met, and the larger number of un or poorly educated, and poorer Filipinas. I was talking of the less-than-simple ladies and I should have made that clear.
GE
Chocha Monger
01-29-11, 16:59
GE and other resident old timers:
I have a Filipina who treats my money like an AIDS victim. The girl just won't have anything to do with my money. If I send her shopping she only purchases what I requested and presents me with an itemized receipt and the change. If it involves a large purchase she asks me to defer the transaction until I can be physically present. Now, since even overseas Filipinas seem to orgasm when they touch my money this makes me quite curious. Is this normal behavior for middle class Filipinas with their own source of income?
X Man suggested that there might be some value to my story and that I should post it here. I'll try my best to make this as short as possible, however it is still going to be a long read. Fifteen years ago I made my first trip to the Philippines after first visiting Hong Kong and China. I did not want to spend time in Manila because of the congestion and so I decided on Cebu. During my flt to HK, I met an interesting fellow who told me that he was going to Cebu for 3 months in order to search for a filipina wife. He gave me his address in Cebu and I promised I would look him up upon my arrival in Cebu. When I arrived in Cebu I looked him up and it turns out he was staying in an apartment with his father and his father's girlfriend. My new friend and I went barhopping and I had a great time. His father and g / f later introduced me to a beautiful 19 year old lady who was working as a waitress. I spent the rest of my vacation with this lady and before I left she told me that she would be returning to her home in Kidapawan, Mindanao and I could contact her by phone via her brother at the Univ of Mindanao's main office. We exchanged emails and every Monday she would go to the main office and we would chat. When I called it seems as if the same Univ professor would answer. We would exchange pleasantries before I would chat with my g / f. Several months went by and things were starting to go south with my g / f until I finally decided that this was not going to work out. About 1 month prior to my cutting off my g / f the professor who had been answering the phone began to tell me about her daughter who was returning from Malaysia. She was 20 years old and had a degree in Animal Sciences. She wanted her daughter to meet an nice guy like me and could I help her find someone. About a month after my breakup, I decided to call the professor and asked her to mail her daughter's photos. I received about 4 photos and my reaction was WOW. She was about 5'7" and stunning. It turns out that she had won several beauty contests and I could see why. I decided that this was the girl for me. Educated, beautiful and her English was pretty good. The other plus as far as I was concerned was that her mother and dad were University professors. I thought I had hit the jackpot. I asked for permission to court her daughter and when my future wife returned from Malaysia, the courtship began.
Towelboy2010
01-29-11, 17:38
OMG. Where is part 2? I am on pins and needles. LOL.
I thought I had hit the jackpot. I asked for permission to court her daughter and when my future wife returned from Malaysia, the courtship began.
I courted my new Mindanao beauty for about 8 months and decided to pay her a visit. She and her family met me at the airport in Davao and we proceeded to Kidapawan which is located within Cotabato. I must admit I had a great time and after formally meeting with her parents and what I will call a mediator, we received the parents blessing and were formally engaged. When I returned stateside, I began the K1 visa process. The visa was approved and I sent for my filipina beauty. Here is were things begin to go sour. The agreement was that we would get married in a civil ceremony in order to satisfy the K1 visa requirements. We would then return to the Philippines in two years and have a church wedding. I helped her get a job and the agreement was that she would save her salary in order to pay for the expenses for the wedding, pictures, reception, etc, and I would pay all of the bills. I would pay for our travel to Mindanao. After the wedding she would then help with our living expenses. This was made very clear to her and her parents before we were engaged. As it turns out, I had to take money which I had save for our wedding vacation as she did not have enough to cover everything. It seems she was counting on the money which wedding guest would provide and she was also pissing away money from her weekly salary on herself. We returned and as agreed, I was expecting her to begin to contribute to our living expenses. Needless to say, that never happened. She was intent on living the American Dream at my expense. Camaro automobiles, later a used Lincoln Continental, clothes and shoes up to the waazoo. In the meantime I was having to pay all the bills while she lived "la vida loca". There was also the constant emergencies in Mindanao. Her mom ran a catering business and on one occasion lost her advance and so I sent her 500. 00 USD to help her. One of her uncles had a stroke and I helped my wife in sending money via Western Union as the hospital would not operate unless they had payment in advance. I could go on, but I think you all get the picture. This crap went on for 7 years. Probably the biggest mistake that I made was purchasing a home 5 months after we had our church wedding in Mindanao. It turns out that the home as well as everything else was community property. I went through a very very nasty divorce three months after I had triple bypass surgery. I guess she decided to get a divorce thinking that she would be stuck with taking care of me for the rest of her miserable f*king life. The whole divorce process lasted about 6 months and quite frankly I think the judge was getting tired of the circus which she was creating. I was exhausted with this whole thing and agreed to give her more than half just to get rid of her. I might add that during the divorce process she waited until I had left for work. It seems she hired a moving company to come in and take everything. I was lucky to have my neighbor see what was going on and he called me at work. When I arrived, the truck was already 3/4 full. The movers refused to unload the truck and so I called the police. The truck was unloaded and I was left with moving cartons all over the house.
It turns out that I hired one sh*tty lawyer who was also tired of this circus. I was to get awarded the home, but the terms were left open ended regarding the equity issue. Remember that during 7 years of marriage, I paid the mortgage, home insurance, property taxes and home owner association dues. I was able to show the court through bank statements that I was the one who paid for everything. There were steps that I had to take in order to have the home awarded to me. Without getting too much into the details, I will only say that about three years after our divorce she came after me for the equity of the home. This included equity on the home three years after our divorce. Keep in mind that I have been living in the home and paying everything associated with the home including repairs. We have bee to mediation several times and my position has been that the home was no longer community property after we were divorced and that as such she was not entitled to sh*t. Judge made a decision that in essence was not in my favor. I have appealed. The appeals court decided to have the case go back to mediation. She is now asking for equity to date which is 5 years after our divorce.
Twice I have been to the Philippines since my divorce. I have been to AC, Manila and Cebu. I always have a great time and I love the Philippine and its people. I have had a great time at the bars and enjoy the process of barfining the girl that strikes my fancy. I did not meet my Mindanao nightmare Via DIA, bargirl, or filipina so called mail bride service. What many of you need to take into account is that in my opinion the Filipino family is structured to be very close. When you marry into the family you are instantly looked upon to help in any and all of their financial difficulties and believe me when I tell you that there will alway be a problem. I live in an area where there is a very large Filipino community. I know many Filipina / American couples and I can tell you that I have seen many marriages of this type which are beautiful to see. I just happened to meet the wrong lady. There are a lot more things that I can say about this marriage but I would take too much take to go over it all. Let us just say that is was ugly and an experience which I do not want to repeat. Will I ever marry another filipina? Never say never but at this point I rather doubt it. Will I continue to visit the Philippines? The answer is yes, and I plan to return in June. I will visit Cebu, Subic Bay and La Union. I want to return after my June trip and stay for about 6 months at which point I will decide where I want to live should I decide to make it a permanent stay. Will I in the meantime barfine the ladies? The answer is yes. I covered in the Cebu forum what I will do in order to pass the time. Barfining and barhopping will just play a part in my overall plans. Hope you all get something out of my post and if you have any questions I will be glad to answer as long as it does not get too personal. I really enjoy reading everyone's posts and I just wanted to contribute something.
Married a Pinoy in 1991, Took 10 years and three babys. But man the family back home is a burden. Those girls have to save face. Would I do it again. Yes. I have been alone a long time. My youngest who I am raising. She left them with me. Is 16, she did not clean me out. When we married I did not have much. So, what I had was joint. Even money my mom left. So the x said she did not want my moms money and only 1/2 or all else. No, fighting. But all the familiy stuff. All the uncles and neices and sisters. It got to her also. Yes a different culture. The age there is not a issue. But here in the states the fem's will not like 30 years difference.
Why am I posting. Just to let you know life is hard. And relations are hard. And yes barfining is fun. But for some of us. We want more. And that is where the shit hits the fan. My mom allways said you are going to pay for it one way or another. I think GE is right that it can work. I think you need to take time and not rush. I think life is hard. And we should do the best we can one day at a time.
When you marry into the family you are instantly looked upon to help in any and all of their financial difficulties and believe me when I tell you that there will alway be a problem.I have no real personal input into this topics but I was flipping through a book on Filipino culture and they gave the example of a Filipino man becomes a doctor. He is then expected to be on call 24 hours per day for the extended family to be their personal, free doctor.
No good deed gones unpunished.
Currently I am living with a Thai lady. Although she has been a good partner, I am not sure she is a long term solution for me. It has nothing to do with her. It's just that after all this time, I need some space and time to chill out. Maybe after all is said and done I will stay with her or maybe I will meet someone in the Philippines. In either case, I just want to chill have some fun and give myself a chance at getting a life.
Married a Pinoy in 1991, Took 10 years and three babys. But man the family back home is a burden. Those girls have to save face. Would I do it again. Yes. I have been alone a long time. My youngest who I am raising. She left them with me. Is 16, she did not clean me out. When we married I did not have much. So, what I had was joint. Even money my mom left. So the x said she did not want my moms money and only 1/2 or all else. No, fighting. But all the familiy stuff. All the uncles and neices and sisters. It got to her also. Yes a different culture. The age there is not a issue. But here in the states the fem's will not like 30 years difference.
Why am I posting. Just to let you know life is hard. And relations are hard. And yes barfining is fun. But for some of us. We want more. And that is where the shit hits the fan. My mom allways said you are going to pay for it one way or another. I think GE is right that it can work. I think you need to take time and not rush. I think life is hard. And we should do the best we can one day at a time.
Towelboy2010
01-29-11, 20:12
Thanks for all the advice so far via replies here and PM's, very informative. I think my post was partially misunderstood, so I will attempt to clarify what I am asking the board members.
Relationships are hard. There are no guarantees. I agree with all of what has been said here. I am simply asking for some personal help to mitigate the risk.
I am asking to meet woman known to board members, over a longer period of time, thru other more normal means.
As an example, if a Filipina wanted to meet a young American guy and I was asked in a similar fashion as I am asking here, would I recommend the 21 yr old mechanic who works for me? I love Mitch to death as an employee. He is wise beyond his years as a mechanic. My customers love him and feel comfortable with him working on their airplanes. I have gotten more business because he joined the team. When it comes to women he is a train wreck. Without going into detail, he would make a terrible husband at this point in his life because he is all about partying and scoring.
I know Mitch from a short distance and can know these generalizations about him.
I am guessing that there are expats, or others, living there who know single eligible women thru friends, acquaintances, wives. Etc. And by knowing these women from a short distance, over time, you know something of their character. You know their honesty and integrity as well as their personalities; wants; needs & desires. You know they are not a gold digger.
I offered my "lists" as a guide to let others what is important to me. This list is a few years old. Clean & organized used to be last until this past summer. My brother is getting divorced from his 2nd wife and he is happy about it because even tho she has a PHD, she is an absolute slob. He told me at a family reunion he can't stand living like that and after 7 years is tired of being the maid. So as you see, I moved Clean & Organized, up on the list in importance.
I am happy to relax and slow down. THIS IS WHERE I NEED THE HELP. INTRODUCTIONS. I would just like to slow down with a small group of "more trusted" individuals. Then we can find out if "we" are compatible and move forward.
Thanks Again, Bob
Towelboy2010
01-29-11, 20:38
my close friends thought it was silly for me to date overseas. i should find a wife here, they said. my retort was that it is almost impossible to find a girl in the usa who would be,"of childbearing age; with no children; that wants children; that would marry a 55 year old chubby guy", no matter how charming i am.
after my 3rd failed attempt at meeting a wife in the philippines, i succumbed to peer pressure.
i came back from that disastrous trip meeting julie in october 2007 with my tail between my legs. i went to my neighbors and confessed my frustrations and said,"ok, i am all ears, what should i do to find that special someone and start a family?"
the answer was simple. try eharmony.
i spent an evening filling out all the forms and answering the 300+ questions that are required to match me with a similar minded lady.
then it asks for a geographic region. of course i clicked on north america, then after some thought i added south america. as i sat there thinking, i thought,"what the heck" and i clicked china, japan & the philippines.
only one more button to go. it reads,"find my matches".
i click it with great anticipation. the hourglass spins and spins and spins for like 2 minutes."well, it is searching thru almost half the world, be patient bob".
finally, i get my answer. no matches found!
believe me, my friends got a huge laugh at that.
Member #4491
01-29-11, 22:35
GE and other resident old timers:
I have a Filipina who treats my money like an AIDS victim. The girl just won't have anything to do with my money. If I send her shopping she only purchases what I requested and presents me with an itemized receipt and the change. If it involves a large purchase she asks me to defer the transaction until I can be physically present. Now, since even overseas Filipinas seem to orgasm when they touch my money this makes me quite curious. Is this normal behavior for middle class Filipinas with their own source of income?Be careful Chocha. This one wants you for real. . I have two girls that are the same to me. Refuse to accept a penny. Declare every expense. Accepts a gift but always presents a returning gift. Luckily these girls are few and the I_will_do_anything_and_even_considering_to_take_it_up_my_azz-ones are in abundance.
Barba
Jon von Neumann
01-29-11, 22:37
It turns out that I hired one sh*tty lawyer who was also tired of this circus. I was to get awarded the home, but the terms were left open ended regarding the equity issue. Remember that during 7 years of marriage, I paid the mortgage, home insurance, property taxes and home owner association dues. I was able to show the court through bank statements that I was the one who paid for everything. There were steps that I had to take in order to have the home awarded to me. Without getting too much into the details, I will only say that about three years after our divorce she came after me for the equity of the home. This included equity on the home three years after our divorce. Keep in mind that I have been living in the home and paying everything associated with the home including repairs. We have bee to mediation several times and my position has been that the home was no longer community property after we were divorced and that as such she was not entitled to sh*t. Judge made a decision that in essence was not in my favor. I have appealed. The appeals court decided to have the case go back to mediation. She is now asking for equity to date which is 5 years after our divorce.Boricua,
I feel you man!
Although I was married to an American lady, my marriage and divorce story is quite similiar to yours. I don't think that many things in your story has much of anything to do with the Philippines or the fact that you married a Pinay. The ugly fact is that divorces in the US are often very nasty. There is a huge cottage industry around it. (from lawyers that drag it out as long as they can to drain your bank account, to mediators, social workers, parenting evaluators and so on) that have vested interest in prolonging the whole thing. Given that many people are vindictive, issues tend to pop up many years after a divorce like your is doing by asking for the equity in you home.
Just be glad that you didn't have kids that she'd use to get back at you every time she damn pleases. Like mine does. You'd be amazed at the shit a woman can come up with to try to make your life as miserable as hers. Want to go away alone on vacation to somewhere (say Cebu)? Make sure your kids never has any hint of it or you'd be back in front of a judge for some emergency bullshit that will ultimately be thrown out-but you will spend $3K plus in legal fees. [No kidding! ]
I know my story won't make you feel better. But you know misery loves company! . I don't wish divorce on my worst enemy (maybe I should).
BL2010
Member #4491
01-29-11, 23:05
Towelboy,
Like Red Kilt said you'll have to draw upon your past experiences and see what you can learn from the previous crime scenes. Take a long hard look at yourself and ask where you fucked up. Sometimes we don't really listen to what women are saying before we get involved with them. Maybe we listen superficially instead of reading between the lines and catching the red flags. Ironically, I developed this skill from interviewing potential employees and then started applying it in the game. Be prepared to start with a large group and eliminate those who do not meet your criteria. Feel free to be ruthless, it's your life and your money at risk. Do not let them know you're seeking a wife. It is the fastest way to fuck yourself. You may as well just get out and scream free visa to USA on the streets. They'll put on an act for you.
Find a girl who does things for you without being asked. Does she bring you food? Does she take your clothes home and wash it? If a Filipina gives a fuck about pleasing you it isn't that hard to find out. Get rid of any girl asking for money or hinting at it through hardluck stories. When you go out with her see if she looks out for your money. Does she steer you away from expensive (by local standards) items to more economical ones? Does she negotiate prices down for you on cabs and trikes? A Filipina worth a fuck would make sure that you're not being taken advantage of as a foreigner. Find a girl that is not too close or depends a lot on her family. It will save you trouble later. Always make it clear that you'll not be financially supporting their family from the start. Curb their expectations. I think you've already got that part down since you're looking for one with no kids. Dig into her past and then dig some more. A private investigator is money well spent for any marriage minded man. It's best to have an unbiased source of information apart from references from her family and friends. Don't give her money. Don't buy her gifts. Keep dining experiences simple and to a minimum. In other words try to eliminate things that may be incentives for her to stick around even if she secretly doesn't care much for you. Take some time for yourself and see how she reacts. Jealous and controlling is a problem. Don't let her see you off at the airport. If she can't trust you then you can't trust her. This is pure wisdom. Guys, leave your feeling of having no value in Europe and USA. You are kings. The woman should impress you! This also goes for females you just want to bang. A 19 year old girl I was seeing a few months ago played the innocent girl act. She was a (confirmed) virgin when I met her and was desperate for excitement and money. But clearly she held her option open and chatted with other guys on Yahoo. So I gradually started to train her that total honesty is the only true way in life between two persons, with any type of relation but possibly the trade off state called marriage. Both when honesty is joyful and when it hurts it is the only real way. She is not stupid and understood after a while that this was an exciting new way of interaction. Hurtfull at times but pleasant and developing. I told her that I will have to fuck her big titted friend, just to get it out of her system. She is nervous that I will like her friend more, and tries to outdo her friends photos and videos by making her own video close ups on her pumping and orgasmic dripping fanny. After three month of (next to) total honesty, she has now gone from her angel like act to fucking herself to orgasms on the cam, using her fingers and the the cucumber I asked her to buy. I do not think there is a need to be rude or mean, but there is no need to sell out on yourself either. Not saying anyone here does that, but I think everyone once in a while have seen these well mature men acting like fools in front of some little girl who has been poisoned by the western idea that pussy means final power. Know your value, be nice, be honest in your compliments and / but teach women that a man is not a womans slave, but an organism filled with feelings, needs and urges that needs o be take care of in order for this man to be happy and whole.
All the best from Barba!
I agree with everything you say and I know how lucky I am that I never had any kids with this woman. I will tell you a funny story. After we divorced, she started to screw around with a bunch of guys. Anyway, she finally got her self hooked up with a guy who is an administrator in one of my areas local hospitals. She got herself pregnant with this guy and I happen to run into him and my ex. We had some words and we got into each others face. They got married and after two years he filed for divorce. I told my mutual friends that he was smarter than me in that it took me 7 years of crap with her but he got rid of her after only 2 years. She pulled a lot of the same sh*t on him both during and after their divorce. The real funny part of this is that he and I have become friends and we have been amazed at how similar are stories are. I told him that the major difference between he and I is that he has a son with this crazy woman and he is stuck with her for a very very long time.
Boricua,
I feel you man!
Although I was married to an American lady, my marriage and divorce story is quite similiar to yours. I don't think that many things in your story has much of anything to do with the Philippines or the fact that you married a Pinay. The ugly fact is that divorces in the US are often very nasty. There is a huge cottage industry around it. (from lawyers that drag it out as long as they can to drain your bank account, to mediators, social workers, parenting evaluators and so on) that have vested interest in prolonging the whole thing. Given that many people are vindictive, issues tend to pop up many years after a divorce like your is doing by asking for the equity in you home.
Just be glad that you didn't have kids that she'd use to get back at you every time she damn pleases. Like mine does. You'd be amazed at the shit a woman can come up with to try to make your life as miserable as hers. Want to go away alone on vacation to somewhere (say Cebu)? Make sure your kids never has any hint of it or you'd be back in front of a judge for some emergency bullshit that will ultimately be thrown out-but you will spend $3K plus in legal fees. [No kidding! ]
I know my story won't make you feel better. But you know misery loves company! . I don't wish divorce on my worst enemy (maybe I should).
BL2010
GoodEnough
01-30-11, 04:42
Towelboy, I think you're adopting the correct approach; one that's likely to succeed without any initial commitments from you. As I stated in a PM, if you get to Davao, I'm happy to try to help. It's been my experience, in various cities in the country, that there are always a few venues in which expat men tend to hang out. Most of these informal groups are welcoming to new expats on the scene, and the individuals who comprise such groups would also likely be willing to assist you.
The problem, of course, with this process is that it takes time. In the first place, you're likely to meet several women, and in the second, once you've identified those that appeal most to you, allowing relationships to develop takes a while. Thus, it's probably better if you select one or two areas of the country on which to concentrate your search. I would advise you to select large-medium-size places that offer not only larger expat communities, but also a decent number of venues for picking up women of the P4P variety, for those times when you just want to have random sex. Manila, Cebu and Davao are those that spring immediately to mind, but there are lots of others as well. There is a wide range of Yahoo groups associated with each of these cities, where you might be able to contact expats prior to your trip. These are not sex forums, so the dialogues within these groups are of an entirely different vein than ISG.
During my time here, I've also found that the Philippines is a surprisingly open society. That is, people tend to be friendly and not overly cautious about speaking to strangers in restaurants, bars, clubs, or even on the street. It takes a little game, and overcoming the fear of rejection, but you shouldn't be worried about approaching women in these sorts of venues. In many, if not most cases, you will find women ready to speak with you, and I'm not speaking of professional sex workers.
GE
......Will I ever marry another filipina? Never say never but at this point I rather doubt it. Will I continue to visit the Philippines? The answer is yes,..............Hello, Boricua,
I read your story and I feel for you. I experienced similar the same twice in my life, with my past 2 marriages I had. Both were Pinay.
The second marriage was living with me here in Germany only for 22 weeks after I learned she had Pinoy BF even while waiting in Manila for her VISA for Germany.
Fortunately I could "remove" her out of Germany very successfully before more damage was done by her (MIGRATION SCAM).
She disappeard.
Finally, after 4 years I hope to get divorced (in her absence) on this Feb. 18th.
Do I want to marry again?
I don't think so.
Do I come back to Phils. for vacation?
YES, I do - as often as my finances will allow me to do.
Ram
Wicked Roger
01-30-11, 19:43
This is pure wisdom. Guys, leave your feeling of having no value in Europe and USA. You are kings.
I told her that I will have to fuck her big titted friend, just to get it out of her system. She is nervous that I will like her friend more, and tries to outdo her friends photos and videos by making her own video close ups on her pumping and orgasmic dripping fanny.
Fucking herself to orgasms on the cam, using her fingers and the the cucumber I asked her to buy. All the best from Barba! Barba.
Such wisdom from a twisted soul LOL.
I have to agree we are all Brad Pitt when we land at NAIA. Well I do look him :)
And I have also said to some girls that I need to shag her sister or best friend etc just to make sure she is the one ;)
And does she put her cucumber up her ass like one of my Cebu girls does on cam. If so pictures please as am not twisted as you know Barab, am just curious :eek:
Cunning Stunt
01-31-11, 08:41
Call me an old romantic, but all these sad, horror stories of busted relationships reminds me that, despite their many attractions, most Filipinas are, at heart, materialistic, lying, manipulative, scheming b*tches and that those guys that follow the 3 'F' mantra tend to fare the best.
FreebieFan
01-31-11, 12:49
Barba.
Such wisdom from a twisted soul LOL.
I have to agree we are all Brad Pitt when we land at NAIA. Well I do look him.
And I have also said to some girls that I need to shag her sister or best friend etc just to make sure she is the one.
And does she put her cucumber up her ass like one of my Cebu girls does on cam. If so pictures please as am not twisted as you know Barab, am just curious. Whilst its well known that I don't share a lot of pics, I do have my own private collection of two young ladies with cucumbers inserted.
I buy them in a supermarket prior to use, usually you can get them in shrink wrapped packs of two (for a size variety).
Last trip, my gal screamed a bit as it was inserted. I asked her if it was pleasure. She said " no, its damn cold.
I had only just taken it out of the ref LOL!
A lot of you guys have been mongering in PH for a long time and have had partners / wifes from there so the last few posts have been very interesting. Some of the advice and insight is just amazing, it is I guess what makes this board so addictive.
I think the most common problem for failed relationships here is that some people just don't understand the PH culture and are trying hard to impose western values without giving much though as to PH values and way of life.
Also the fact that 90% of the punters I have meet in PH leave way beyond their means for those 2-3 weeks there doesn't help. God knows how many 2 week millionaires I have meet. Your future partner sees that and expects similar lifestyle for the rest of her life with you. So before she marries you she goes and tells her family that she meet this foreigner who spends 10. 20K peso a night and stays in this beautiful hotel and how he will take care of her. Then she comes to a foreign country and reality sets in quickly. Yes its still a lot better from home and they are adaptable little creatures but is it what you promised her is it what she thought it was going to be?
People that have been in previous relationships and have read the advice here should not fall into the traps ever again. Just be honest. Tell her the truth of your situation, seat down with her and do the numbers. Teach her. Explain to her what you can do and what you can't. If you are going to spend the rest of your life with that person then honesty, trust and understanding needs to happen way before you walk the isle.
A lot of you guys have been mongering in PH for a long time and have had partners / wifes from there so the last few posts have been very interesting. Some of the advice and insight is just amazing, it is I guess what makes this board so addictive.
I think the most common problem for failed relationships here is that some people just don't understand the PH culture and are trying hard to impose western values without giving much though as to PH values and way of life.
Also the fact that 90% of the punters I have meet in PH leave way beyond their means for those 2-3 weeks there doesn't help. God knows how many 2 week millionaires I have meet. Your future partner sees that and expects similar lifestyle for the rest of her life with you. So before she marries you she goes and tells her family that she meet this foreigner who spends 10. 20K peso a night and stays in this beautiful hotel and how he will take care of her. Then she comes to a foreign country and reality sets in quickly. Yes its still a lot better from home and they are adaptable little creatures but is it what you promised her is it what she thought it was going to be?
People that have been in previous relationships and have read the advice here should not fall into the traps ever again. Just be honest. Tell her the truth of your situation, seat down with her and do the numbers. Teach her. Explain to her what you can do and what you can't. If you are going to spend the rest of your life with that person then honesty, trust and understanding needs to happen way before you walk the isle. All over the world almost all the girls will marry for money and a better life if they are not real young or in puppy love.
If from a poor family all girls will jump on the chance. Failed marriages has nothing to do with the money issue. Like all marriages love can go out of the window, the girl may find somebody etc.
Ofcourse Phi girls will not marry somebody who does not have any money. Why would they want more suffering in their life?
Although I have not married any Phi girls I have had long term relationships. For the guys who got married and took the girls to their own country, my advice will be just divorce them but do not send them back to Phi. After all she did give you some love and affection even if it did not work for long time.
Jon von Neumann
01-31-11, 18:34
Call me an old romantic, but all these sad, horror stories of busted relationships reminds me that, despite their many attractions, most Filipinas are, at heart, materialistic, lying, manipulative, scheming b*tches and that those guys that follow the 3 'F' mantra tend to fare the best.This is probably a newbie. Pardon my posting it here where the term I am searching for was mentioned. I've searched this forum for the term "3 'f' rule," and "the 3 'f' rule" and got nowhere. I get all "the" "3" and "rule" highlight. Since I am newbie what am I doing wrong with search? How do I pull up threads where this term was discussed?
BL2010
Roadrunners
01-31-11, 19:25
This is probably a newbie. Pardon my posting it here where the term I am searching for was mentioned. I've searched this forum for the term "3 'f' rule," and "the 3 'f' rule" and got nowhere. I get all "the" "3" and "rule" highlight. Since I am newbie what am I doing wrong with search? How do I pull up threads where this term was discussed?
BL2010Find them.
Fuck them.
Forget them.
DriveAllNight
01-31-11, 19:29
This is probably a newbie. Pardon my posting it here where the term I am searching for was mentioned. I've searched this forum for the term "3 'f' rule," and "the 3 'f' rule" and got nowhere. I get all "the" "3" and "rule" highlight. Since I am newbie what am I doing wrong with search? How do I pull up threads where this term was discussed?
BL2010" (bar) Fine them, Fuck them, Foto them."
Radical Guy
02-01-11, 01:35
Boricua,
I feel you man!
Although I was married to an American lady, my marriage and divorce story is quite similiar to yours. I don't think that many things in your story has much of anything to do with the Philippines or the fact that you married a Pinay. The ugly fact is that divorces in the US are often very nasty. There is a huge cottage industry around it. (from lawyers that drag it out as long as they can to drain your bank account, to mediators, social workers, parenting evaluators and so on) that have vested interest in prolonging the whole thing. Given that many people are vindictive, issues tend to pop up many years after a divorce like your is doing by asking for the equity in you home.
Just be glad that you didn't have kids that she'd use to get back at you every time she damn pleases. Like mine does. You'd be amazed at the shit a woman can come up with to try to make your life as miserable as hers. Want to go away alone on vacation to somewhere (say Cebu)? Make sure your kids never has any hint of it or you'd be back in front of a judge for some emergency bullshit that will ultimately be thrown out-but you will spend $3K plus in legal fees. [No kidding! ]
I know my story won't make you feel better. But you know misery loves company! . I don't wish divorce on my worst enemy (maybe I should).
BL2010I happen to be a lawyer practicing (mostly) family law in a community property state. I've seen countless horror stories of the types described here, most often when I've been the one representing the wife. Despite my personal feelings of distaste, it is my job to maximize my clients' interests, and when opposing counsel drops the ball, it's not my role to pick it up for him or her.
Community property statutes (at least in my state) define ALL income and property accumulated during the marriage as community property, with a few exceptions (e. G. Inherited property) , regardless of whose name is on the deed, title, or account. If the husband is earning $100, 000 a year and the lazy wife is just sitting on her fat ass eating popcorn and watching Oprah, $50, 000 of that income is her's. If the husband's 401K increased in value by $200, 000 during the marriage, wifey is entitled to half. Those are, in general, the "default" rules.
However, parties can generally contract around the default rules via a device known as a prenuptial agreement. However, care must be taken not only in how the instrument is drafted, but the manner in which it is executed. If you have some Filipino lawyer draft the agreement, and tell your fiancee to "just sign it," chances are it won't be enforceable.
Similarly, even here in the states, if you get some online form, or even get a lawyer to draft the agreement, and simply have her sign it (even with a notary) , it may be unenforceable if it is inherently unfair or if it appears that she didn't understand it, or if she wasn't given an opportunity to obtain legal advice before signing it. I've blown plenty of prenups out of the water by showing either substantive or procedural unconscionability. So, in this regard, do it right or proceed at your own peril.
RG
I was told if you can float it,"Fly it, Float it or Fuck it?
Its cheaper to rent it?
So far the in my opinion.
The Rule has stood up to the test of time?
Sly
Chocha Monger
02-01-11, 03:37
Call me an old romantic, but all these sad, horror stories of busted relationships reminds me that, despite their many attractions, most Filipinas are, at heart, materialistic, lying, manipulative, scheming b*tches and that those guys that follow the 3 'F' mantra tend to fare the best.Filipinas hardly have a monopoly on those traits. They are common in all women, even those in the United States and Europe. A case in point, I had a Latin American girl give me an ultimatum. Marry her or she would find someone more inclined to think with their little head. I said ho I'm married to the game. So she did a lot of crying and said I was forcing her into the arms of another and how deeply it hurt to love one unwillingly to return that love in the form of a legally binding contract. It was some shit that should be written down in a Harlequin romance novel on unrequited love. Then she informed me that some other guy had been asking her to fuck and he was quite insistent so she would give him a chance because he promised her a formal relationship. So, I released the ho from all of her obligations, toasted to her future and gave her my blessings with a few words of wisdom. I told her that I noticed that she had always been a strong-willed disobedient out of pocket ho and she was not the type that should marry. I explained that I was only telling her this out of genuine concern for her welfare then sent her on her way.
After that I went off for a year of adventure and earning freshly printed crisp bennies which are the only things that make my dick harder than when in a hotel room with some fresh Filipina pussy. After a few months I heard from her. I asked how things were going. She said the guy never had time to come around and see her so things never progressed to fucking. Then she said that she didn't want to do it anyway and had hoped that I'the relent and ask her to marry me but I never called. I told her I was abroad now and extremely busy. Plus I didn't want to intrude on the relationship she left my stable to establish. She inquired on my marital status. I said ho I'm still married to my money. She started talking bullshit about hoping I would marry her on my return.
A month goes by and I get a message from her asking for about $1600 USD to pay closing costs on a house she was buying from her sister. She wanted me to send the money to her sister in the US. I replied that her sister needed to help her with the closing costs since she was the one selling the house and knew of her situation. Far be it from me to get involved in a family transaction. After that she disappeared for a few months.
At the start of the New Year I send out greetings to all of my contacts. I hear from her and she informs me that she is divorced. I said that she never told me she was getting married. She said that she had stopped communicating after the cash request message because she had gotten married. I asked what happened. She said the marriage went bad and ended in a Mexican stand-off with both parties drawing pistols to gun each other down. It culminated with the husband withdrawing under fire. I laughed and said ho I told you so. She asked when I'the be in her area again. I told her I had a trip coming up in another month or two. She started talking that marriage and making babies shit again.
A few days ago I got a message from her saying that she has a son for me and would like me to give him my last name since his father refused to recognize him as his child. She said she hoped I would take up responsibilities and commitments with her and her son and raise him as my own. I replied that she never told me she was pregnant or had given birth and when did this all happen. The only response was the sound of crickets chirping.
Since then I went over the timeline and determined that she was not only fucking the other guy while she was trying to pressure me into marriage, she was also already pregnant. This explains the hasty marriage. She was also married when she asked me for money to help purchase the house from her sister. I would have been paying for the purchase of a house for her and her new husband. The money had to go directly to her sister of course because she was no longer using her maiden name but she could not tell me that in the event I'the been dumb enough to agree to Western Union the money. So you see Filipinas are not the only materialistic, lying, manipulative, scheming little cunts at heart. Anyone fucking hoes worldwide soon realizes that this is female nature around the globe. The stakes are higher in some places than others and odds may favor one sex over another but the fundamentals remain the same. This is why taking a Filipina or any other nationality back to your Western country repeatedly ends in disaster. On the moon a man can lift a very large rock because of lower gravity. If he were to take that same rock back to Earth he'the find it difficult or impossible to lift it because of the increased gravity on Earth. It's the same with taking Filipinas to the United States or Europe. Ultimately the local forces in their new environment will act on them causing them to behave much like that rock.
The marriages between American men and Filipinas that I have seen remain intact for any length of time involved a lot of hands on management on the guy's part. The wife would be required to hand over a predetermined amount of her income if she worked. She would have to be home soon after work and socializing outside of the home without her husband wasn't allowed. The wife always treated the husband with obvious respect in public. The husband didn't hesitate to check the wife on the spot if he caught her slipping. In essence the husband played a strict paternalistic role towards the wife even where little to no age difference existed. Of course, American women all said that these guys were mean controlling assholes.
Glad to see I was finally push my ex gf on somebody else. She's somebody elses's problem now.
DriveAllNight
02-01-11, 04:45
All the risks, the documented horror stories. I just don't understand.
Why, oh why, does any guy take their Filipina out of the RP? Everything changes at that point it seems, and not to the man's advantage.
I have a few girls In Phils I really like a lot. But they're staying in Phils, and I visit them 2-4 times per year. That's it. Period!
Mister Pink
02-01-11, 05:28
All the risks, the documented horror stories. I just don't understand.
Why, oh why, does any guy take their Filipina out of the RP? Everything changes at that point it seems, and not to the man's advantage.
I have a few girls In Phils I really like a lot. But they're staying in Phils, and I visit them 2-4 times per year. That's it. Period! I have a few lady friend maids in HK, educated, over worked, highly sexed and enjoy being spoiled.
Hairy Wonder
02-01-11, 06:12
A foreigner in the Philippines does not have to flash any cash, or show off with a "fancy" hotel room for the locals to assume he is rich. I'm sure that every guy that has spent any amount of time in the country has heard someone that does not even know them state "He can afford it. He's an (insert nationality here)." I can't count how many times I have heard those phrases. And I have not been there nearly as often as many members of this board. A previous Filipina gf once told me that all Filipinos believe that anyone, even another Filipino, that has been living abroad, is rich. She also told me that all the girls fantasize about how big the foreigner's penis is. :D For some reason, she wasn't very thrilled at my suggestion that I would help all of her girlfriends, cousins, and sisters have a better understanding of the American penis. :rolleyes:
Fredje1961
02-01-11, 08:16
Same for me: I prefer the pinays in HK because most of them are a bit better educated, they have a bit more maturity and having seen another country has opened up their minds.
Of course, most of them aren't exactly hot little spinners (most have had at least one kid already) , but fun is guaranteed.
I have a few lady friend maids in HK, educated, over worked, highly sexed and enjoy being spoiled.
FreebieFan
02-01-11, 11:05
I have a few lady friend maids in HK, educated, over worked, highly sexed and enjoy being spoiled.I do too. In fact theres one who just sent me a text saying that because she has a poor signal in her employers condo in Kowloon, she " misses my.". I'm assuming she meant smile. LOL
Cunning Stunt
02-01-11, 16:09
Don't fight it bro. Its like bashing your head against a rock, I can tell you. They all assume that you are rich, no matter how much you plead poverty. After all, you could afford an expensive flight over there and I suppose compared to most Filipinos who haven't got a pot to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in, all foreigners are loaded.
There is an enormous, palatial house close to where I live. Worth serious money. But this being the Philippines, the rich Filipina that owns it has built an annex which includes a little sari-sari store. This is run by the middle aged, druggie, ne'r do well son. But he is a nice guy and I often go over to the store to share a beer and a yarn with him. But if he is out, then his wealthy mum runs the store and she invariably adds a few pesos to the price of a beer. When I point this out, the reply is inevitably 'your a poriner, you can afford it'. This is from a women who is by Philippine standards, very rich.
You can't win.
All of this reminds me of a friend who knowing the Filipina mentality had me go with him to a very nice neighborhood which had some very very nice homes for sale. He would have me take pictures of him standing in front of the homes, then would post the pictures on some of the most popular Filipina dating sites. Talk about knowing how to play the game.
Don't fight it bro. Its like bashing your head against a rock, I can tell you. They all assume that you are rich, no matter how much you plead poverty. After all, you could afford an expensive flight over there and I suppose compared to most Filipinos who haven't got a pot to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in, all foreigners are loaded.
There is an enormous, palatial house close to where I live. Worth serious money. But this being the Philippines, the rich Filipina that owns it has built an annex which includes a little sari-sari store. This is run by the middle aged, druggie, ne'are do well son. But he is a nice guy and I often go over to the store to share a beer and a yarn with him. But if he is out, then his wealthy mum runs the store and she invariably adds a few pesos to the price of a beer. When I point this out, the reply is inevitably 'your a poriner, you can afford it'. This is from a women who is by Philippine standards, very rich.
You can't win.
Radical Guy
02-01-11, 17:26
Don't fight it bro. Its like bashing your head against a rock, I can tell you. They all assume that you are rich, no matter how much you plead poverty. After all, you could afford an expensive flight over there and I suppose compared to most Filipinos who haven't got a pot to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in, all foreigners are loaded.
There is an enormous, palatial house close to where I live. Worth serious money. But this being the Philippines, the rich Filipina that owns it has built an annex which includes a little sari-sari store. This is run by the middle aged, druggie, ne'are do well son. But he is a nice guy and I often go over to the store to share a beer and a yarn with him. But if he is out, then his wealthy mum runs the store and she invariably adds a few pesos to the price of a beer. When I point this out, the reply is inevitably 'your a poriner, you can afford it'. This is from a women who is by Philippine standards, very rich.
You can't win. My wife is a Filipina, and whenever we travel back to Mindanao for a visit with her family, my wife always tells me to allow her to make hotel reservations, pay for taxis, or whatever, because she knows that I will always be overcharged. To test this theory, I went alone to a "lechonette" to make arrangements for a lechon baboy (whole roast pig) for a party we were having with family. The guy wanted to charge me 3000 php. My wife and her dad went a bit later and got the same lechon baboy for 1700 php. Case closed!
Member #4491
02-01-11, 19:30
And does she put her cucumber up her ass like one of my Cebu girls does on cam. If so pictures please as am not twisted as you know Barab, am just curious :eek:Only pussy so far, but she agreed to try anal in March when I come to paradise again. I will take some nice close ups. Maybe even one of those head mounted video cameras, but mounted on the little head this time?
Your preggo friend did finally reply and she has a great face, I must say. Looking forward to fu. I mean see her.
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Wicked Roger
02-01-11, 20:10
I can't count how many times I have heard those phrases. And I have not been there nearly as often as many members of this board. A previous Filipina gf once told me that all Filipinos believe that anyone, even another Filipino, that has been living abroad, is rich.
She also told me that all the girls fantasize about how big the foreigner's penis is. . For some reason, she wasn't very thrilled at my suggestion that I would help all of her girlfriends, cousins, and sisters have a better understanding of the American penis. . HW.
Those who work in the Middle East are considered by their families back in PI (many of them lazy and work shy from my personal experience) to be rich. Daughter is working in UAE for example ego.... she will feed the entire family who dont consider to job search anymore.
Daughter's salary is awful sometimes as low as 20, 000 pesos a month from which she has to find a room and food etc. (it is very expensive as the cost of living is high). Yet they still expect a monthly Western Union MTCN number to feed everyone lazing around at home. Thats why some get into really bad debt and some end up part time WGs hoiping that they meet nice westerners....like yours truly. Some of the stories I have heard are truly appalling and some families I havae met are real toerags IMHO
As for dick size have heard same and when I chat I am sometimes asked "how big is it". Of course I am always modest when chat to a cute pinay :D
But HW...you need to chose your girlfriends better, mine always lets me have fun and likes her group sex and threesomes. It how I ask them I am sure ;). And if asked about a cute friend well am sure she will be kind to old Roger!! Am harmless as am old :eek:
Cunning Stunt
02-02-11, 01:59
I was chatting online to Ana yesterday and she posed an interesting question, that of the right to reply of a working girl. She often reads the Philippine forum or has some item which is pertinent to her pointed out by me or another members. And she is incensed by some negative comments made about her physical appearance and sexual prowess, by a senior member. She is so angry that she has joined herself (under the handle of Ana nympho, would you believe:)) and wishes to have her say as to the possible reasons for these comments. This would involve revealing some personal details about the physical shortcomings of the member concerned, her adverse reaction to which might have given cause to the comments he published.
I told her she had to be very careful here. It is hardly the confessional but there has to be a degree of confidentiality about what goes on between a ho and her paying customer. On a more practical level, members are hardly likely to wish to avail her services if they are worried that they may wake up next morning to find all their physical shortcomings and personal peccadilloes aired on the forum for all to read. She sees the sense in this but still thinks she has the right to reply to a personal attack. She is a bright girl but hardly a Pinay Belle De Jour so if she does get around to making a post, I hardly think it will win her a Pulitzer.
What is the consensus amongst the more reflective members?
Hairy Wonder
02-02-11, 03:39
WR,
I have met the families of a few Filipinas that were working in Korea. They basically had the same lazy tendencies as those you mentioned. While those girls were working abroad, they were frustrated every month by their families requesting more money. These girls had contracts that said they would earn $1, 000 US every month. But then their managing agency would take a cut, the promoter in Korea would take his cut, and the club owner would short change the girls. When all was said and done, they maybe had $400 US to send home, leaving them with almost nothing for their own needs. Although $400 monthly was big money for the average Filipino, the families just kept asking for more. When these girls returned home, they started asking me to provide them close to $1, 000 US to support their family. That's generally when I would cut off all communication.
I wish I could find the girls that enjoy sharing me with other girls in threesomes, or even just introducing their cute friends for my enjoyment. But my experience so far has been only girls that demand I stick my dick in them alone. Maybe I will have to ask you for some introductions the next time I am in the Philippines. :D
FreebieFan
02-02-11, 04:24
I was chatting online to Ana yesterday and she posed an interesting question, that of the right to reply of a working girl. She often reads the Philippine forum or has some item which is pertinent to her pointed out by me or another members. And she is incensed by some negative comments made about her physical appearance and sexual prowess, by a senior member. She is so angry that she has joined herself (under the handle of Ana nympho, would you believe.) and wishes to have her say as to the possible reasons for these comments. This would involve revealing some personal details about the physical shortcomings of the member concerned, her adverse reaction to which might have given cause to the comments he published.
I told her she had to be very careful here. It is hardly the confessional but there has to be a degree of confidentiality about what goes on between a ho and her paying customer. On a more practical level, members are hardly likely to wish to avail her services if they are worried that they may wake up next morning to find all their physical shortcomings and personal peccadilloes aired on the forum for all to read. She sees the sense in this but still thinks she has the right to reply to a personal attack. She is a bright girl but hardly a Pinay Belle De Jour so if she does get around to making a post, I hardly think it will win her a Pulitzer.
What is the consensus amongst the more reflective members?Assuming I'm considered " more reflective" I say let her have her say here ONCE only.
I don't think any of us want to hear the womens side of things about ALL our various games, schemes, and plans, but hearing from her once might be an interesting read.
DriveAllNight
02-02-11, 04:58
This would involve revealing some personal details about the physical shortcomings of the member concerned, her adverse reaction to which might have given cause to the comments he published."DikiLeaks." Good lord.
Sure hope she's less pedantic than that Assange character.
Chocha Monger
02-02-11, 05:22
I was chatting online to Ana yesterday and she posed an interesting question, that of the right to reply of a working girl. She often reads the Philippine forum or has some item which is pertinent to her pointed out by me or another members. And she is incensed by some negative comments made about her physical appearance and sexual prowess, by a senior member. She is so angry that she has joined herself (under the handle of Ana nympho, would you believe.) and wishes to have her say as to the possible reasons for these comments. This would involve revealing some personal details about the physical shortcomings of the member concerned, her adverse reaction to which might have given cause to the comments he published.
I told her she had to be very careful here. It is hardly the confessional but there has to be a degree of confidentiality about what goes on between a ho and her paying customer. On a more practical level, members are hardly likely to wish to avail her services if they are worried that they may wake up next morning to find all their physical shortcomings and personal peccadilloes aired on the forum for all to read. She sees the sense in this but still thinks she has the right to reply to a personal attack. She is a bright girl but hardly a Pinay Belle De Jour so if she does get around to making a post, I hardly think it will win her a Pulitzer.
What is the consensus amongst the more reflective members? It certainly would be interesting to read a ho's review of her trick's shortcomings and short cummings. Will she attach photos of the shortcomings? I'm not sure how a ho would make a trophy photo of one of her tricks. Probably she would take pictures of him eating out her [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) hole and then pissing on his face or maybe worse. It could help some mongers step up their game learning how the other side really sees them.
I was chatting online to Ana yesterday and she posed an interesting question, that of the right to reply of a working girl. She often reads the Philippine forum or has some item which is pertinent to her pointed out by me or another members. And she is incensed by some negative comments made about her physical appearance and sexual prowess, by a senior member. She is so angry that she has joined herself (under the handle of Ana nympho, would you believe.) and wishes to have her say as to the possible reasons for these comments. This would involve revealing some personal details about the physical shortcomings of the member concerned, her adverse reaction to which might have given cause to the comments he published.
I told her she had to be very careful here. It is hardly the confessional but there has to be a degree of confidentiality about what goes on between a ho and her paying customer. On a more practical level, members are hardly likely to wish to avail her services if they are worried that they may wake up next morning to find all their physical shortcomings and personal peccadilloes aired on the forum for all to read. She sees the sense in this but still thinks she has the right to reply to a personal attack. She is a bright girl but hardly a Pinay Belle De Jour so if she does get around to making a post, I hardly think it will win her a Pulitzer.
What is the consensus amongst the more reflective members? CS,
While I can appreciate why she might want to "set the record straight", I think unless what the person said about her something that is wholly untrue, ie, he said she has 34A boobs when she really has 36DD, then I would advise her to let it go. If that is not possible, I would temper my response to something like,"I am sorry that Monger X didn't enjoy our time together, I haven't had those problems with other gentlemen I have met."
To be honest I rarely base my decision to see a girl on a single "review", unless it is from someone I trust and involves something like being a "runner, thief, or some other event that has nothing to do with how two people interact in a private setting". If one person says she is fat and ugly, but that is the only one, I am more likely to see her to make my own evaluation. Having said that I think that these ladies need to remember what I consider to be the golden rule for ladies posting on this website (or any other similar place),"Every post you make is an advertisement". I will make a decision about whether to use a lady's service based on how she responds or acts in a public setting.
I also believe that allowing the gals access to anything other than the classifieds on this site, is generally a bad idea, but that is just my opinion. My experience is that if guys know the ladies are reading their posts / reviews it usually leads to "filtered" information or none at all.
This particular event is an example of what I am talking about.
I met a very nice filipina lady in Hong Kong during my first trip to Asia many years ago. Basically, she told me that every time she goes back to the filipines on vacation, her family will welcome her, but soon begin to bug her about returning to her job in Hong Kong. What a shame that some of these ladies get caught up in what is a bad situation both at home and overseas.
WR,
I have met the families of a few Filipinas that were working in Korea. They basically had the same lazy tendencies as those you mentioned. While those girls were working abroad, they were frustrated every month by their families requesting more money. These girls had contracts that said they would earn $1, 000 US every month. But then their managing agency would take a cut, the promoter in Korea would take his cut, and the club owner would short change the girls. When all was said and done, they maybe had $400 US to send home, leaving them with almost nothing for their own needs. Although $400 monthly was big money for the average Filipino, the families just kept asking for more. When these girls returned home, they started asking me to provide them close to $1, 000 US to support their family. That's generally when I would cut off all communication.
I wish I could find the girls that enjoy sharing me with other girls in threesomes, or even just introducing their cute friends for my enjoyment. But my experience so far has been only girls that demand I stick my dick in them alone. Maybe I will have to ask you for some introductions the next time I am in the Philippines. .
My experience is that if guys know the ladies are reading their posts / reviews it usually leads to "filtered" information or none at all.I have been with a girl who suddenly, right out of left field, blurted that she knows about ISG and reads it every day.
WTF?
Seems some clown had told her all about it and so she was reading posts. I am not sure if she is a "member".
The result of this is that I will never post any reports here that feature either her or any of her friends. No pics either. I am also cutting down on my general posting because there is a chance she will recognize my name from the content of a post.
Filipinas are world-record tsismosas (gossips and BS spreaders). Having a pinay read ISG is like pouring a bucket of gasoline onto a burning match.
Wicked Roger
02-02-11, 18:52
WR,
I have met the families of a few Filipinas that were working in Korea. They basically had the same lazy tendencies as those you mentioned. While those girls were working abroad, they were frustrated every month by their families requesting more money. These girls had contracts that said they would earn $1, 000 US every month. But then their managing agency would take a cut, the promoter in Korea would take his cut, and the club owner would short change the girls. When all was said and done, they maybe had $400 US to send home, leaving them with almost nothing for their own needs. Although $400 monthly was big money for the average Filipino, the families just kept asking for more. When these girls returned home, they started asking me to provide them close to $1, 000 US to support their family. That's generally when I would cut off all communication.
I wish I could find the girls that enjoy sharing me with other girls in threesomes, or even just introducing their cute friends for my enjoyment. But my experience so far has been only girls that demand I stick my dick in them alone. Maybe I will have to ask you for some introductions the next time I am in the Philippines. . HW.
The same thing happens in the Middle East, with pinay / pinoys at the agent in the Middle East country shitting on thier own kind.
In Abu Dhabi I did help one girl to understand her rights (as laid out by the Philippines Labour Office) and she got to the Embassy and the place where runaways stay before they go home. Got a call from the agent threatening me all sorts so I asked around to my office for chat on the law. He politely declined when I told who my boss was LOL and I never heard a thing again. But is is all too common and the families don't know as the girl is "too ashamed" to tell her family. Who think she is rich!
As for threesome girls happy to help :D I know a few. . Or more :p Which city/town was it ;)
Wicked Roger
02-02-11, 19:07
I have been with a girl who suddenly, right out of left field, blurted that she knows about ISG and reads it every day.
WTF?
Seems some clown had told her all about it and so she was reading posts. I am not sure if she is a "member".
The result of this is that I will never post any reports here that feature either her or any of her friends. No pics either. I am also cutting down on my general posting because there is a chance she will recognize my name from the content of a post.
Filipinas are world-record tsismosas (gossips and BS spreaders). Having a pinay read ISG is like pouring a bucket of gasoline onto a burning match. I know the person RK speaks of and I know the person who told her and showed posts etc. She does not know our ISG handles but now anyone who sees her (and she is worth seeing trust me gentlemen) is warned by me not to discuss ISG. A few guys have seen since RK and can also testify to this.
But she is worth seeing just keep her month full as she is a great BBBJ and loves to swallow
Someone like Ana knows the site and knows some guys well and that would be fine but many other definitely no.
But I would certainly be more cautious about posting and advice.
Cunning Stunt
02-03-11, 02:22
Someone like Ana knows the site and knows some guys well and that would be fine but many other definitely no.
But I would certainly be more cautious about posting and advice. Most Filipinas have the attention span of a Goldfish with Alzheimers. They have neither the patience nor inclination to read through loads of posts. I wouldn't be the slightest bit worried.
Ana sent me a message last night, saying that she could not work out how to post on the forum. I think that we will be best leaving it that way.
Don't fight it bro. The reply is inevitably 'your a poriner, you can afford it'. This is from a women who is by Philippine standards, very rich.
You can't win. You CAN win the argument. My reply,"But that doesn't mean you deserve it."
This deserves to be reposted. Though "all" women may be a slight overstatement.
Filipinas hardly have a monopoly on those traits. They are common in all women, even those in the United States and Europe. A case in point, I had a Latin American girl give me an ultimatum. Marry her or she would find someone more inclined to think with their little head. I said ho I'm married to the game. So she did a lot of crying and said I was forcing her into the arms of another and how deeply it hurt to love one unwillingly to return that love in the form of a legally binding contract. It was some shit that should be written down in a Harlequin romance novel on unrequited love. Then she informed me that some other guy had been asking her to fuck and he was quite insistent so she would give him a chance because he promised her a formal relationship. So, I released the ho from all of her obligations, toasted to her future and gave her my blessings with a few words of wisdom. I told her that I noticed that she had always been a strong-willed disobedient out of pocket ho and she was not the type that should marry. I explained that I was only telling her this out of genuine concern for her welfare then sent her on her way.
After that I went off for a year of adventure and earning freshly printed crisp bennies which are the only things that make my dick harder than when in a hotel room with some fresh Filipina pussy. After a few months I heard from her. I asked how things were going. She said the guy never had time to come around and see her so things never progressed to fucking. Then she said that she didn't want to do it anyway and had hoped that I'the relent and ask her to marry me but I never called. I told her I was abroad now and extremely busy. Plus I didn't want to intrude on the relationship she left my stable to establish. She inquired on my marital status. I said ho I'm still married to my money. She started talking bullshit about hoping I would marry her on my return.
A month goes by and I get a message from her asking for about $1600 USD to pay closing costs on a house she was buying from her sister. She wanted me to send the money to her sister in the US. I replied that her sister needed to help her with the closing costs since she was the one selling the house and knew of her situation. Far be it from me to get involved in a family transaction. After that she disappeared for a few months.
At the start of the New Year I send out greetings to all of my contacts. I hear from her and she informs me that she is divorced. I said that she never told me she was getting married. She said that she had stopped communicating after the cash request message because she had gotten married. I asked what happened. She said the marriage went bad and ended in a Mexican stand-off with both parties drawing pistols to gun each other down. It culminated with the husband withdrawing under fire. I laughed and said ho I told you so. She asked when I'the be in her area again. I told her I had a trip coming up in another month or two. She started talking that marriage and making babies shit again.
A few days ago I got a message from her saying that she has a son for me and would like me to give him my last name since his father refused to recognize him as his child. She said she hoped I would take up responsibilities and commitments with her and her son and raise him as my own. I replied that she never told me she was pregnant or had given birth and when did this all happen. The only response was the sound of crickets chirping.
Since then I went over the timeline and determined that she was not only fucking the other guy while she was trying to pressure me into marriage, she was also already pregnant. This explains the hasty marriage. She was also married when she asked me for money to help purchase the house from her sister. I would have been paying for the purchase of a house for her and her new husband. The money had to go directly to her sister of course because she was no longer using her maiden name but she could not tell me that in the event I'the been dumb enough to agree to Western Union the money. So you see Filipinas are not the only materialistic, lying, manipulative, scheming little cunts at heart. Anyone fucking hoes worldwide soon realizes that this is female nature around the globe. The stakes are higher in some places than others and odds may favor one sex over another but the fundamentals remain the same. This is why taking a Filipina or any other nationality back to your Western country repeatedly ends in disaster. On the moon a man can lift a very large rock because of lower gravity. If he were to take that same rock back to Earth he'the find it difficult or impossible to lift it because of the increased gravity on Earth. It's the same with taking Filipinas to the United States or Europe. Ultimately the local forces in their new environment will act on them causing them to behave much like that rock.
The marriages between American men and Filipinas that I have seen remain intact for any length of time involved a lot of hands on management on the guy's part. The wife would be required to hand over a predetermined amount of her income if she worked. She would have to be home soon after work and socializing outside of the home without her husband wasn't allowed. The wife always treated the husband with obvious respect in public. The husband didn't hesitate to check the wife on the spot if he caught her slipping. In essence the husband played a strict paternalistic role towards the wife even where little to no age difference existed. Of course, American women all said that these guys were mean controlling assholes.
Hairy Wonder
02-03-11, 04:42
As for threesome girls happy to help :D I know a few. . Or more :p Which city/town was it ;)WR,
I'm not sure what your are asking about the city / town. The girls that I have known, and visited in PI, have all lived in, or close to metro Manila. I haven't been to PI since 2009, but I plan to check out other areas on my next trip (whenever I can save enough for the flight from the US). I have not had the chance to go to AC, Cebu, or Davao yet. But I definitely want to check out those areas, and many of the women there. I did venture down to General Santos City after a breakup with one gf I had. I already had my flight paid for, and couldn't stand to let that opportunity go to waste! . Unfortunately, plans I had for meeting a DIA contact there didn't pan out. So I returned to Manila. On the trip back, I met another punter that invited me to Burgos Street. I had a great time there, and have been back many times. I can't wait to get back to paradise again. The cost of the flight from sex prison is just so much that I can't afford it right now. (Maybe I should of held off on buying the $164K house, the $30K truck, and other small things that have added up to more than I can pay for right now.) :rolleyes:
HW
Wicked Roger
02-03-11, 14:31
WR,
I'm not sure what your are asking about the city / town. The girls that I have known, and visited in PI, have all lived in, or close to metro Manila. I haven't been to PI since 2009, but I plan to check out other areas on my next trip (whenever I can save enough for the flight from the US). I have not had the chance to go to AC, Cebu, or Davao yet. But I definitely want to check out those areas, and many of the women there. I did venture down to General Santos City after a breakup with one gf I had. I already had my flight paid for, and couldn't stand to let that opportunity go to waste! . Unfortunately, plans I had for meeting a DIA contact there didn't pan out. So I returned to Manila. On the trip back, I met another punter that invited me to Burgos Street. I had a great time there, and have been back many times. I can't wait to get back to paradise again. The cost of the flight from sex prison is just so much that I can't afford it right now. (Maybe I should of held off on buying the $164K house, the $30K truck, and other small things that have added up to more than I can pay for right now.).
HWHW.
All am saying is when you next escape sex prison. Am in the same situation trust me. Then PM me as I maybe be able to help you with your threesomes in some towns and citeis. I spread myself wide as I am big and fat LOL
For some reason, she wasn't very thrilled at my suggestion that I would help all of her girlfriends, cousins, and sisters have a better understanding of the American penis. :rolleyes: (LOL)
Interesting topic Filipinas. Had recently went on a date with one here in the US and she was a bit controling. Had a girlfriend in the US who was brought here around 5yrs old and she was very jealous. Loved sex, passionate and always wanted to be with me. Always drained me cock before I'd go anywhere and in hindsight I think it was to make sure some other woman didn't.
I hope to travel to PI and a few other countries, and had thought about bringing back a bride, but not after reading some of these posts. (LOL)
Hairy Wonder
02-04-11, 04:12
HW.
All am saying is when you next escape sex prison. Am in the same situation trust me. Then PM me as I maybe be able to help you with your threesomes in some towns and citeis. I spread myself wide as I am big and fat LOLI will definitely PM you as soon as I have a chance to escape prison! :D I have Plenty for all the girls to love also (because I'm fat also.) I recently saw Dr. Oz (Oprah's favorite doc) on TV talking about increasing penis length by loosing weight. He stated that the penis would grow 1 inch for every 35 pounds of weight loss. If this is true, and I loose all the weight that I want, I could be the next John Holmes! :eek:
Gilgamesh,
I would not recommend marrying and importing any woman from any country. I did this with my Korean ex-wife in 1988. There was so many forms, applications, and fees involved, that I think it would have been better if I established permanent residence in Korea. That was in 1988. The costs were relatively cheap when compared with the extremely increased amounts being charged today. Plus, it would seriously cut down on your ability to have fun! :p
HW
Wicked Roger
02-04-11, 19:35
I will definitely PM you as soon as I have a chance to escape prison! . I have Plenty for all the girls to love also (because I'm fat also.) I recently saw Dr. Oz (Oprah's favorite doc) on TV talking about increasing penis length by loosing weight. He stated that the penis would grow 1 inch for every 35 pounds of weight loss. If this is true, and I loose all the weight that I want, I could be the next John Holmes! .
HWHW.
Saw the same programme / show here and thought the same but then realised am already too big for the girls (or so they all tell me :D) so thought I best keep eating the chocolate cake. I escape in March but first work :(
Hairy Wonder
02-05-11, 05:16
HW.
Saw the same programme / show here and thought the same but then realised am already too big for the girls (or so they all tell me.) so thought I best keep eating the chocolate cake. I escape in March but first work. I guess I should take the same attitude you have. I have heard the "you too big" line from Koreans and Filipinas. Personally, I think it's just an excuse to get out of the work they have agreed to do. I don't think I will be able to escape from sex prison until June / July time frame. And that will depend on funds available. I may consider a trip to one of the closer monger areas if I can't free up some funds soon. I just need to win that damn lottery!
Ya, G, don't bring them back to US; only for a brief visit. Otherwise they will get poisoned like all other American biotches.
(LOL)
Interesting topic Filipinas. Had recently went on a date with one here in the US and she was a bit controling. Had a girlfriend in the US who was brought here around 5yrs old and she was very jealous. Loved sex, passionate and always wanted to be with me. Always drained me cock before I'd go anywhere and in hindsight I think it was to make sure some other woman didn't.
I hope to travel to PI and a few other countries, and had thought about bringing back a bride, but not after reading some of these posts. (LOL)
Wicked Roger
02-05-11, 19:27
I guess I should take the same attitude you have. I have heard the "you too big" line from Koreans and Filipinas. Personally, I think it's just an excuse to get out of the work they have agreed to do. I don't think I will be able to escape from sex prison until June / July time frame. And that will depend on funds available. I may consider a trip to one of the closer monger areas if I can't free up some funds soon. I just need to win that damn lottery!
Well some are lovely and tight so I always have lube with me just in case, but generally I use that for the Greek lesson but always helpful and that stops them saying it too much. My submissive in Cebu is very tight despite repeated shagging so I do appreciate it at times
But in my case it must be true.....I would never criticise a lady after all :D am a gentleman :eek:
I posted this in the Thailand section, but it reminded me of so many stories from here in the Philippines but with a twist. Usually here it is the foreign guy here that is on the receiving end of the violence. Enjoy.
Woman lied to boyfriend over visit to fiancé
By Louise Dickson, Times Colonist February 9, 2011.
A Thai woman was already living with her new Canadian boyfriend in Bangkok when she visited her former fiancé in Los Angeles in December 2007, a B. C. Supreme Court trial in Victoria heard Tuesday.
Tensions were running high at David Goldberg's attempted murder trial as defence lawyer Ray Dieno began his cross-examination of Goldberg's exfiancée, Tatcha Aroonjaratsang.
Goldberg, a former Boeing engineer, is charged with the attempted murder of Aroonjaratsang and her husband, Jeremy Walsh, in Saanich on the night of Sept. 24, 2008. Goldberg is also charged with possessing explosive materials.
"You played Mr. Goldberg like a dupe," Dieno said, raising his voice."You took his money."
When prosecutor Nils Jensen objected to Dieno's treatment of the witness, Justice Geoffrey Gaul told Dieno that the loud voice was not necessary.
"You met Jeremy in November and you played Mr. Goldberg like a dupe," the defence lawyer continued.
Aroonjaratsang, a petite woman with long, dark hair, shook her head.
"No, I didn't do anything to him. I planned to have a good relationship with him and he showed me living with him wasn't good for me."
The court has heard that Aroonjaratsang and Goldberg met online in July 2007 and became engaged on Sept. 22, 2007, in a traditional ceremony in Thailand. Following Thai custom, Goldberg gave Aroonjaratsang's mother $27, 000 in gold bars as an engagement present.
Dieno suggested Aroonjaratsang was looking for a relationship to escape Thailand. He accused her of breaching her betrothal to Goldberg and continuing to take his money after she met Walsh in November.
"Yes, I took some. But not the big one," she replied.
In December 2007, Goldberg paid for her plane ticket to Los Angeles where she stayed at his apartment, went skiing and travelled to Hearst Castle. Goldberg also bought her a cat, said Dieno.
"And, all the while, Jeremy was back in Thailand waiting for you," Dieno said, throwing papers onto the defence desk.
At this point, Gaul interrupted the proceedings and told Dieno to refrain from throwing papers.
Aroonjaratsang testified she did not tell Walsh she was visiting Goldberg.
"We were really close. We were living together. I told him I was going to the USA to visit my mother's friend."
"You lied to Jeremy," said Dieno.
"Yes I did," she said.
Aroonjaratsang explained that she had told Goldberg she was seeing someone else, but he would not release her from the engagement.
"He insisted he wanted to see me in the States to make the decision. He wanted to make sure it was what I really wanted."
After visiting Goldberg, Aroonjaratsang broke off the engagement. She married Walsh in the spring of 2008.
As Dieno questioned Aroonjaratsang about a series of emails between her and Goldberg, the accused did not look up. He sat in the prisoner's box taking notes on a laptop computer.
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A lot of you guys have been mongering in PH for a long time and have had partners / wifes from there so the last few posts have been very interesting. Some of the advice and insight is just amazing, it is I guess what makes this board so addictive.
I think the most common problem for failed relationships here is that some people just don't understand the PH culture and are trying hard to impose western values without giving much though as to PH values and way of life.
Also the fact that 90% of the punters I have meet in PH leave way beyond their means for those 2-3 weeks there doesn't help. God knows how many 2 week millionaires I have meet. Your future partner sees that and expects similar lifestyle for the rest of her life with you. So before she marries you she goes and tells her family that she meet this foreigner who spends 10. 20K peso a night and stays in this beautiful hotel and how he will take care of her. Then she comes to a foreign country and reality sets in quickly. Yes its still a lot better from home and they are adaptable little creatures but is it what you promised her is it what she thought it was going to be?
People that have been in previous relationships and have read the advice here should not fall into the traps ever again. Just be honest. Tell her the truth of your situation, seat down with her and do the numbers. Teach her. Explain to her what you can do and what you can't. If you are going to spend the rest of your life with that person then honesty, trust and understanding needs to happen way before you walk the isle.I have done exactly that, when in Thaliland, the Philippines or China: always told the truth about my status and modest financial situatuation back in Germany, but still nobody would ever believe me.
Cyber Whip
02-16-11, 05:04
I have done exactly that, when in Thaliland, the Philippines or China: always told the truth about my status and modest financial situatuation back in Germany, but still nobody would ever believe me.Well, I don't think it's so much that they don't believe you. It's more that most Filipinas don't understand simple economics in the rest of the world. Most don't understand about home mortgages or car loans, etc. I was told one time that they thought the money we get for working was all free and clear and that even a medium to low income elsewhere was still considered rich by their standards. Of course they also don't understand the cost of living is much higher. I tried to explain all of the economics one time and my gf just laughed at me. It was clear that they have no grasp of simple economics outside Philippines.
The idea that the money you earn is free and clear comes probably from the fact that in some states (US) the tax rate is ridiculously low or doesn't exist.
Most don't understand mortgages and loans? It seems like some of the best American investors out there also don't considering what happened with the sub prime loan mess.
Well, I don't think it's so much that they don't believe you. It's more that most Filipinas don't understand simple economics in the rest of the world. Most don't understand about home mortgages or car loans, etc. I was told one time that they thought the money we get for working was all free and clear and that even a medium to low income elsewhere was still considered rich by their standards. Of course they also don't understand the cost of living is much higher. I tried to explain all of the economics one time and my gf just laughed at me. It was clear that they have no grasp of simple economics outside Philippines.
Chocha Monger
02-26-11, 22:49
I read the book I Have Tasted The Sweet Mangoes Of Cebu By George Estrada. It's good reading for anyone thinking about falling in love with a Filipina. It takes you through the trials and emotional rollercoaster rides experienced by a middle aged guy trying to marry a hot little puday package half his age. It's a cautionary tale that those sweet little brown mangoes can be very indulging while leaving a bitter taste behind.
Well, I don't think it's so much that they don't believe you. It's more that most Filipinas don't understand simple economics in the rest of the world. Most don't understand about home mortgages or car loans, etc. I was told one time that they thought the money we get for working was all free and clear and that even a medium to low income elsewhere was still considered rich by their standards. Of course they also don't understand the cost of living is much higher. I tried to explain all of the economics one time and my gf just laughed at me. It was clear that they have no grasp of simple economics outside Philippines.A Filipina once told me that she believed that Amex cards were issued by the government to all Americans.
Trackman35
02-27-11, 14:29
Hi guys,
I have a trip to Manilla planned for June with a view to fun and maybe making a long term friend and gf.
After spending a load of time reading through the site and looking at countless ads from the women, I am very unsure about what age group I can pitch myself at and get some interest.
Although I'm 55 I am in shape and fit (175lbs) thank to the job.
Thank to all for the great contributions here.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
Hairy Wonder
02-27-11, 16:03
Trackman35,
The girls in Philippines are not as picky as western girls. They tend to like older men, because, as many have said, older men are more stable. For the most part, Filipinos consider anyone from another country to be rich. That being said, women of any age are happy to engage in a long term relationship, or marriage with a foreigner. But beware, the needs and bills of the whole family come along with the girl.
HW
Wicked Roger
02-27-11, 16:27
Hi guys,
I have a trip to Manilla planned for June with a view to fun and maybe making a long term friend and gf.
After spending a load of time reading through the site and looking at countless ads from the women, I am very unsure about what age group I can pitch myself at and get some interest.
Although I'm 55 I am in shape and fit (175lbs) thank to the job.
Thank to all for the great contributions here.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
I am nearly the same age but definitely not the same shape T35 (:eek;) and I have no issues finding delightful young girls willing to meet me and do naughty things to my body (which not attractive :p). As HW says they prefer older as we are more 'respectful'. Not sure what that means in my case given my rather 'innocednt pursuits' but for sure they will like you. Be nice and show them you are a gentleman until the bedroom :D
My preferred age group is 18-22 and I love the country (because I am gwapo and Brad Pitt when I am there) but with age range some are very immature so be warned. I have some nice ones who are great at conversation etc but many are more are tiresome after the first or second shag.
And of course the deeper the relationship the more the family become invovled so be warned. Again I am lucky but it has taken time and I dont get hassled from those I see more regularly
Enjoy the experience, take it slow and easier, watch out for scammers and have lots of pinay pussy
Hi guys,
I have a trip to Manilla planned for June with a view to fun and maybe making a long term friend and gf.
After spending a load of time reading through the site and looking at countless ads from the women, I am very unsure about what age group I can pitch myself at and get some interest.
Although I'm 55 I am in shape and fit (175lbs) thank to the job.
Thank to all for the great contributions here.
Any advice would be much appreciated. Phi women irrespective of the age will,
1. Date any foreigner for gain mostly for money. Do not believe anything if they say they are in it for Love.
2. Yes, you can have a steady GF as long as you become a sponsor sending money every month.
Beware that she will most likely have a local BF in your absence or hook up with other sponsors.
3. Phi is one of the few countries where age gap is often overlooked from girls and her family.
4. She feels like it is her duty to help her family, so there will be additional demands for money saying.
One excuse or another.
5. Do not expect honesty from any of these women unless you live round the clock with them.
I have sponsored, met girls from remote villages, had long term relationships. But I have always kept an.
Open mind about them having other relationships. As long as I am concerned if I am taken care of sexually.
And companionshipwise during my presence without any drama it is good enough for me.
Oh. Hell, it beats barfining all the time not knowing the outcome. Nothing beats a romantic trips I take with the girls.
DriveAllNight
02-27-11, 19:07
Oh. Hell, it beats barfining all the time not knowing the outcome. Nothing beats a romantic trips I take with the girls.Isn't that the truth? Once you get established and build a Rolodex in Phils, it's even better.
Next month I'm taking one girl to Subic, one to Puerto Galera, and a third to Bohol. Now add some fresh Manila DIA girls + a few trips to EDSA and / or Cafe Havana, then stir. Serves one.
Yellow Bus
02-27-11, 21:27
I need some help? I am looking for a beach in PI that is a lot like Sihanoukville in Cambodia. I need some hide outs that might be out of the way, but still some mongering fun can be had. PM me too if you like. Does this site have trip reports or is it just talking posts? Where is a good place to begin here? Thanks!
I need some help? I am looking for a beach in PI that is a lot like Sihanoukville in Cambodia. I need some hide outs that might be out of the way, but still some mongering fun can be had. PM me too if you like. Does this site have trip reports or is it just talking posts? Where is a good place to begin here? Thanks!Have you looked into Subic?
Member #4491
02-27-11, 22:09
I need some help? I am looking for a beach in PI that is a lot like Sihanoukville in Cambodia. I need some hide outs that might be out of the way, but still some mongering fun can be had. PM me too if you like. Does this site have trip reports or is it just talking posts? Where is a good place to begin here? Thanks!Isn't that where you find all the 15 year old girls fucking the 65 year old men? Or am I just misinformed?
Barba
Chocha Monger
02-27-11, 22:32
Phi women irrespective of the age will,
1. Date any foreigner for gain mostly for money. Do not believe anything if they say they are in it for Love.
2. Yes, you can have a steady GF as long as you become a sponsor sending money every month.
Beware that she will most likely have a local BF in your absence or hook up with other sponsors.
3. Phi is one of the few countries where age gap is often overlooked from girls and her family.
4. She feels like it is her duty to help her family, so there will be additional demands for money saying.
One excuse or another.
5. Do not expect honesty from any of these women unless you live round the clock with them.
I have sponsored, met girls from remote villages, had long term relationships. But I have always kept an.
Open mind about them having other relationships. As long as I am concerned if I am taken care of sexually.
And companionshipwise during my presence without any drama it is good enough for me.
Oh. Hell, it beats barfining all the time not knowing the outcome. Nothing beats a romantic trips I take with the girls. That is certainly true of your average DIA skank or other bottom feeders. However, if you raise your standards you can certainly do better. If you're young, handsome, in shape and lay good pipe you can find middle class Filipinas who would go down in the dirt and die for you. Once you find a good one you'll see that the way to a financially secure Filipina's heart is through her pussy while the way to a poor Filipina's heart runs through your wallet. On the other hand mongers are not looking for good women. They looking for the ones that serve 'tres platos' and then offer up seconds. You can't judge them too harshly when you expect them to arrive at a monger hotel ready to fuck a strange man on sight. A Filipina who wouldn't engage in the mercenary behaviors mentioned would ask a foreigner to court her for a significant period of time before granting pussy access. That's not what a monger on an annual 2 week vacation has in mind.
As a foreigner you will meet mostly bottom of the barrel Filipinas especially when you're only there for a brief visit. Like anywhere meeting a woman worth a damn takes patience, time and high selectivity for some sense of decency. As a monger you will be selecting women with a propensity for promiscuity and loose morals. Is there any surprise when they act like an opportunistic prostitute? Mongering and girlfriend / wife hunting have two divergent objectives. Don't mix them. The resulting flavor is not very palatable. I had dinner with 3 Filipino gentlemen. It was their opinion that maybe only 1% of Filipinas would remain loyal to a much older foreigner husband after attaining G8 status. They were middle aged and single. The reason they gave was that many Filipinas expect the man to support their in-laws including the extended family. So, the problem is hardly exclusive to foreigners. That's why Filipinos with money tend to marry within their class.
As a monger you will be selecting women with a propensity for promiscuity and loose morals. Is there any surprise when they act like an opportunistic prostitute? Mongering and girlfriend / wife hunting have two divergent objectives. Don't mix them. The resulting flavor is not very palatable.Wise words, indeed.
If you haven't read Private Dancer by Stephen Leather, you probably should. Although the subject is Thai bar girls, the fundamental aspects of a relationship between a bar girl and a guy are pretty much the same everywhere. Filipinas can be very good partners (PP's comment about finding your way to a financially secure Filipina's heart through her pussy is spot on, and there's a reasonable chance that my Cebuano GF will be my Cebuano wife in the not too distant future) , or they can live up to all the negative stereotypes you've heard about bar girls. It's theoretically possible to find a good partner working on Burgos Street, and I imagine there might be a success story or two, but the odds are pretty unlikely.
Here's a little excerpt from Private Dancer:
So, to sum up, here are the rules that I would suggest a farang follows if he is determined to marry a Thai:
1) If you want a Thai wife, don't become a sex tourist. Find a Thai girl in your own country, or join a respectable agency which can provide you with checkable references. And if you do find the girl of your dreams through an agency, get her checked out by a trustworthy private detective. It's the only way you will ever be sure that there isn't a Thai boyfriend or husband around.
2) If you decide to come to Thailand to look for a wife, do not go into a go-go bar or other places of prostitution. You wouldn't go looking for a hooker to marry in your own country so don't do it here.
3) Do not, under any circumstances, marry a bargirl. Marriages to bargirls do not work out. Anyone who has married a bargirl and thinks that he has a successful marriage just hasn't discovered the truth yet.
4) If you do marry a bargirl, don't complain when it goes wrong.
5) If you are a sex tourist, you will never have a successful long-term relationship, with any girl. Accept that and continue being a sex tourist.
6) Treat any Thai girl you meet on the Internet with suspicion. Ask yourself why a good Thai girl would go looking for a Western boyfriend on the Internet. The answer is simple – a good Thai girl wouldn't.
7) Marry a girl as close as possible to your own social, financial and educational standing. And the closer you are in ages, the better.
8) If you do marry a Thai girl, only stay in Thailand if you can earn more here than in your home country. Or if her family is a positive asset. Outwith those two provisos, your marriage will have more chance of working outside Thailand.
9) If you do stay in Thailand, learn the language. Learn about the country's history and culture. Watch local TV and local movies. Listen to Thai music. The only way you are going to have even a chance of understanding how a Thai thinks and feels is to understand their culture.
DriveAllNight
02-28-11, 06:20
Have you looked into Subic?
Isn't that where you find all the 15 year old girls fucking the 65 year old men? Or am I just misinformed?
BarbaUmmmmmmmm.
Fredje1961
02-28-11, 07:33
This is actually just common sense, isn't it? But when we start thinking with your juniors, we tend to forget about common sense.
As a foreigner you will meet mostly bottom of the barrel Filipinas especially when you're only there for a brief visit. Like anywhere meeting a woman worth a damn takes patience, time and high selectivity for some sense of decency. As a monger you will be selecting women with a propensity for promiscuity and loose morals.
Cunning Stunt
02-28-11, 09:03
Isn't that where you find all the 15 year old girls fucking the 65 year old men? Or am I just misinformed?
BarbaNot misinformed, just ten years out of date. The NGO's have done a good job in Cambodia and most of the Gary Glitter types slithered off elsewhere (such as to Vietnam).
Can anyone tell me why Filipina girls refuse to take it in the ass? It seems Thais are more willing. Just my experience, or is this really how it is?
Wicked Roger
03-02-11, 19:08
Can anyone tell me why Filipina girls refuse to take it in the ass? It seems Thais are more willing. Just my experience, or is this really how it is?
They love it :D Or is that when they are charmed by my innocent face and big eyes LOL
I always ask and I seem to receive lovely jubbly :D
Chocha Monger
03-02-11, 20:07
Can anyone tell me why Filipina girls refuse to take it in the ass? It seems Thais are more willing. Just my experience, or is this really how it is?The thought of a hard rod being rammed up their ass repeatedly is just not appealing. They compare it to a hard rice "poo" going the wrong way. Throw in their religious beliefs about Sodomites and the aversion to pain and it becomes a very taboo matter. Unless you enjoy prostate exams the answer is quite obvious.
Cunning Stunt
03-03-11, 16:30
The thought of a hard rod being rammed up their ass repeatedly is just not appealing. They compare it to a hard rice "poo" going the wrong way. Throw in their religious beliefs about Sodomites and the aversion to pain and it becomes a very taboo matter. Unless you enjoy prostate exams the answer is quite obvious.WR must have a very persuasive manner (look into my eyes, look into my eyes...) for I've only found a handful of Pinays who would take it up the ass, and fewer who seemed to enjoy it. Which is strange considering its a very Catholic form of birth control, practiced and sanctioned for centuries by priests (admittedly on Altar boys).
Had a DIA girl earlier this evening tell me she didn't do blow jobs. Now that is disturbing. I was aghast. That is the second this year. Is this a trend?
Chocha Monger
03-03-11, 20:55
WR must have a very persuasive manner (look into my eyes, look into my eyes.) for I've only found a handful of Pinays who would take it up the ass, and fewer who seemed to enjoy it. Which is strange considering its a very Catholic form of birth control, practiced and sanctioned for centuries by priests (admittedly on Altar boys).
Had a DIA girl earlier this evening tell me she didn't do blow jobs. Now that is disturbing. I was aghast. That is the second this year. Is this a trend? Either he is very persuasive or has a very non-threatening willy. The mere mention of a rear approach usually makes a pinay ask,"You want to what what in my what?"
Wicked Roger
03-04-11, 07:03
WR must have a very persuasive manner (look into my eyes, look into my eyes.) for I've only found a handful of Pinays who would take it up the ass, and fewer who seemed to enjoy it. Which is strange considering its a very Catholic form of birth control, practiced and sanctioned for centuries by priests (admittedly on Altar boys).
Had a DIA girl earlier this evening tell me she didn't do blow jobs. Now that is disturbing. I was aghast. That is the second this year. Is this a trend? LOL CS.
I am very persuasive and whuile the initial thought is "OMG will it hurt" I tell them it will but after a few goes she will be gagging for more. Am really a wolf in sheep's clothing :D (as I was once described by a girl after shagging her).
I also have used that Catholic bit about keeping your cherry etc (as in Brazil) and that has worked as well
BJs. That is rare and if the girls says that just find another.
CM: my willy is threatening (even to me) :p
But I do have accessories such as butt plugs and lubricant
I even show them anal porn and say "look that girl is enjoying it", and tell them to play with themselves when taking it up the backside as this will relax them more. Be a nice guy when teaching Greek - trust me it pays super dividends :)
Hello,
I have a question for the veterans in the PIs as I am planning my next trip to SEA and I am torn apart between indonesia, the PI and the safe but expensive bet (HK / Macao).
I have been only once to the PI (in cebu) and picked up girls from several bars. While the sex wasn't the worst, I had much much better sex with filipinas in HK, Macao and Shanghai. E. G. GFE, BBBJ skills and they "seemed" to be funnier, sweeter, more active and enjoying themselves while the girls I had in cebu always had a "lets get it over with" mentality / attidute. I even went out to discos with some girls but I always had the impression they were "cold".
I also had the impression the girls outside the PIs had better looks in average, but thats another question.
I know the girls outside the PI usually have more experiance, but after reading so many nice reports from veterans of the PI I think I did something wrong.
Any advice?
Member #4351
03-08-11, 21:38
picked up girls from several bars.That may have been the problem.
Yes I think it was the bar girls that were not girlfriend exp.
I would recommend Date in Asia internet. Spend a month before going chatting up girls in the city you are going to. I think you would have more fun that way.
But if you remember you had to plays lots of games when young to get them panties off the girlf friends. So that is another story also.
As far as food goes. I have not been but have heard HK and Maccau Have lots of good food. Another human pleasure.
Hello,
I have a question for the veterans in the PIs as I am planning my next trip to SEA and I am torn apart between indonesia, the PI and the safe but expensive bet (HK / Macao).
I have been only once to the PI (in cebu) and picked up girls from several bars. While the sex wasn't the worst, I had much much better sex with filipinas in HK, Macao and Shanghai. E. G. GFE, BBBJ skills and they "seemed" to be funnier, sweeter, more active and enjoying themselves while the girls I had in cebu always had a "lets get it over with" mentality / attidute. I even went out to discos with some girls but I always had the impression they were "cold".
I also had the impression the girls outside the PIs had better looks in average, but thats another question.
I know the girls outside the PI usually have more experiance, but after reading so many nice reports from veterans of the PI I think I did something wrong.
Any advice? Of course Filipinas look better when you see them in other countries. When you have a choice of one or two girls it is easier then being in the Philippines with 100 or 200 to choose from.
Robb
Whatsgoingon
03-17-11, 14:12
Well I finally have time to write up my report after visiting the province of a girl I met out here in DXB. As many of you helped with advice and tips I only thought it good to reply. This isn't for everyone and is long.
I visited Leyte for a few days to reunite with my gf, and few days spent in a resort and one day at her home. Of course I should have followed the advice about not being met at the airport. I waiting for two hours for her to arrive after a long trip and it didn't start things off so well. I did go and eat at one of the cafes near the airport which had about 6 girls working there. A couple of them were cute so maybe one day I will go back and try one.
Anyway after she eventually shows up we take an extremely long taxi ride down south. I tried to sleep but the trip was bumpy and I was intrigued that I was stared at like some freak show performer in every small village. We did have a good couple of days in a resort which started off as sex as soon as I got into the room and continued in that vein for a few days. We went swimming one afternoon as it is on of her hobbies and after about 20 metres we stopped as she was tired and that was it. SO we had to shower and have sex instead. Food at the resort was challenging as tru to form she only really wanted to eat rice. So next time I will take note. The one great time we had was going to Videoke one night in the most awful place I have ever been in terms of decor (I. E. It was a shack with a concrete floor). But the staff were friendly and the other guests great fun. Our trike waited two hours to take us home, the toilet was completely horrendous. There seemd to be some local action in Padre Burgos around the main "pier" which was a surprise.
So the day to visit the home finally came. I have to say I was rather apprehensive and ensured I had a good shit expecting bad toilets. And bought some biscuits etc just in case I couldn't eat. The house was in a very rural barangay in the middle of fucking nowhere. On arrival I meet some of the brothers, granmother and the aunt and her 5 kids next door. Her parents were in manila working, thank god. Noone was impolite, but its difficult to be when you say nothing. Granny made no eye contact at all. We walked to the farm and mistake one was that I didn't bring any mozzie repellent. Holy shit. I have never seen such big fucking things in my life.
We drank some fresh coconut juice, and got bitten all over and returned to the house for dinner, which was rice and fish soup. I ate some rice, not wanting to get sick as I hadn't seen the toilet yet. The stove was a wooden thing in the middle of a wooden house. Made no sense to me. After dinner I was shown the toilet. This family were extremely poor and it was rather depressing and I started to thank myself I only decided to stay here for one night. We had planned on going into the baranguy proper but went to town to get mozzie repellant and I bought the family fried chicken. Which actually was really tasty. At 9pm, I was told we were going to bed.
Now I am a light sleeper and I had mentally prepared for this and even had my noise cancelling headphones with me, but it still wasnt enough mental prep. We slept 9 people in a floor space only a little bigger than my office. No lights. No Aircon all sleeping at the same time, apart from the baby. The dogs downstairs. And the pigs squealing in the back garden. This at the same time as thinking about the story my gf told me on the way about her uncle killing someone two nights back for stealing a coconut. Shot dead.
We had a tiny space for ourselves, probably about half and the other 7 the other half. And my gf insisted on having sex. Now I like a good bang but with 7 other family members nearby its difficult to get it up. Eventually we did have it a couple of times, from behind was easy on the side and quite nice. But granny started muttering something and it was all over.
Awaking after a few hours sleep I felt like I had been walked on by an elephant. There was no shower. We were to walk to the river. Ok, I can handle this. First we go into the centre of the barangay and play stare at the poreigner. I was priviledged to meet half the village who all seemed to be relatives. And whilst I sat there all can in and stared at me, group by group.
We do leave at some point and they tell me its only a short way to the river, so I say lets walk. Mistake number 99. No suntan lotion on, and its about 5 kms.
We give up and I just want to go back and change. I arranged a taxi the day before early just in case and he is early. So I decide to leave, everyone out in the street smiling and say goodbye. My gf in tears asking me to come back soon. I had to wait at Tacloban airport for 4 hours. So I went back to the cafe and smiled at the girls, had some food and a couple of cokes to try and revive myself.
It was a pretty humbling experience. No tv for a few days was nice, swimming and the resort were great. The experience of that one night will live with me forever though. How 9 people live in that one house astounds me. But there are millions of them like that.
The smiles of every girl I went past was genuinely touching and at the same time I felt guilty for it. I made a contribution to the family as many have.
Will I do it again, probably not. I can't sleep on a wooden floor with so much noise. I really don't think I can fuck the girl lying next to her parents. But I loved being in the province, riding the back of motorcycles, trikes, going to the most basic bar and videoke ever and having the time of my life. Being in a world that most people don't realise exists. I will go back to the province for certain.
FreebieFan
03-17-11, 14:23
[QUOTE=Whatsgoingon; 1134787]I did go and eat at one of the cafes near the airport which had about 6 girls working there. A couple of them were cute so maybe one day I will go back and try one.
There seemd to be some local action in Padre Burgos around the main "pier" which was a surprise.
Great report, and well written. Those of us who are married to Filipinas have all had a trip of this type. I remember mine. WE got put up at the scariest hotel I've ever been in. Gloomy, misty atmosphere and a roof leaking.
Anyways my point was that even tho we are on an amazing trip, good to see another monger has his pussyradar working and is stlll looking for opportunities where ever he goes. And I thought it was only me LOL.
Vageterian
03-17-11, 20:12
[QUOTE=Whatsgoingon; 1134787]Well I finally have time to write up my report after visiting the province of a girl I met out here in DXB. As many of you helped with advice and tips I only thought it good to reply. This isn't for everyone and is long.
Great post. I got to add my 2 cents as I had read it so many times and never thought it would happen to me. But it did and I laughed my ass off.
I go to meet the family of this little pinay treat I had known for sometime online. I go with her to the home of her mother in manila. Met the family, a few of her sisters and their kids around. Husbands all work out of the country. So we are chatting and doing the whole family thing and then my girl says lets go for lunch. BOOM next thing you know there are 14 or 15 people in the room up from the original 5. Off we go to the mall in 2 taxi's 14 of us in all. I don't know how we all fit in there. This was during the thanksgiving week so the mall was swelled. We decided on a restaurant where it looked like we could be accomodated and took our seats. Ordered the big party feast to feed everyone and even when a dish ran out someones hand went up and another plate was brought without thought of the bill. Up to this time I had only had experience with cautious women bringing a gf along and what is a 3 person bill in asia, not much. I was still amazed at how much food they ordered and huge sundays for dessert. So when the bill comes they automatically bring it to the only white dude at the table. I laughed wasn't that much at all, maybe 60 bucks total. But a lesson to be learned, inviting anyone to dinner in PI can be hazardous to your wallet if not prepared. It was like they were coming out from the floorboards. I didn't mind at all and was laughing because I thought I had read it so many times it would never happen to me. But in the end it is to show generosity to the family and gain some rep points for sure. I was repaid in kind by my appreciative pinay
Chocha Monger
03-18-11, 02:50
We had a tiny space for ourselves, probably about half and the other 7 the other half. And my gf insisted on having sex. Now I like a good bang but with 7 other family members nearby its difficult to get it up. Eventually we did have it a couple of times, from behind was easy on the side and quite nice. But granny started muttering something and it was all over.Sweet sordid tale! You should have shagged granny too for good measure.
Nice story by Whatsgoingon. Sure brought back memories of my trip to the boonies. With one difference. Gf and I saw the sleeping area: it was bamboo with nothing for cushions and while I could do without the aircon and I had mozzie repellent on hand, I knew I could not sleep on that bamboo so they told us of a resort not too far away. But everything else is spot on, fresh coconut, very fresh chicken, riding on the back of a scooter or motorcycle, using trikes, being the only foreigner around, grungy family KTV's, smiles all around, etc.
Although my GF insisted on me staying at her house I Refused during a visit to her province in Leyte.
This house was not bad because her parents were farmers and owned some land. I had paid fot the Air-Con she had in her room. The house had three rooms and a kitchen. Had a good color TV. The whole neighbourhood was there watching TV when I went there for dinner. Just Chicken and rice. I just ate little bit afraid of getting sick. We did have sex in her room while everybody was watching TV in the next room. It was nice.
We were planning to stay for a week but there is really nothing to do. So we took the ferry and went to Cebu.
Only thing I saw is a big good looking house my GF said belongs to a German guy who married a local girl.
There are some families who are better off than others. The good thing is the whole barangay acts like one big family and readily share everything they have. People are extremely friendly. I saw many really good looking young girls. No wonder why AC mamasans target leyte for their girls.
Cunning Stunt
03-19-11, 07:50
Sweet sordid tale! You should have shagged granny too for good measure.Why do you think she was grumbling? She was probably saying 'Girl, you about had enough of that big, white cock? How about giving me a taste'!
The best bit about being down on the farm, is getting to ride a caribou. There's nothing as much fun as jumping on the back of one of these great, placid beasts after they have done their days work and lumbering down to the river to wash them off. They all but purr with delight and once they smell the water, they almost break into a canter. Yeehaaaa – ride 'em cowboy!
The worst bit is the outdoor bucket and scoop shower usually open plan with flimsy bamboo weave wall that only go up about halfway. You can guarantee that when you go out for a bath. 90% of the barangay will turn out to watch and try to get a glimpse of the fabled foreign whanger.
Which reminds me of when I built my first house in the strifes village. I designed a bungalow but had the flat roof tiled and semi-roofed to make it into a sun lounging / party area. I discovered that I was overlooking the neighbor's outdoor open top washing shed. Now the neighbor was a widow in her late 30's with two teenage daughters who took turns to bathe at the same time every afternoon. Needless to say that I spent many a happy afternoon up on the roof;).
Vageterian
03-19-11, 22:22
The worst bit is the outdoor bucket and scoop shower usually open plan with flimsy bamboo weave wall that only go up about halfway. You can guarantee that when you go out for a bath. 90% of the barangay will turn out to watch and try to get a glimpse of the fabled foreign whanger.
Cunning Stunt I can't think of too many good looking pinay that haven't seen your whanger haha. I have been following your adventures for a few years now
Chocha Monger
03-21-11, 16:43
What's behind the willingness of some Filipinas to let their boyfriend "play" with other girls? It seems that some girls just accept that there is an abundance of pussy out there and their man will indulge. Yet others seem to want nothing less than a monogamous relationship.
Cyber Whip
03-21-11, 21:55
What's behind the willingness of some Filipinas to let their boyfriend "play" with other girls? It seems that some girls just accept that there is an abundance of pussy out there and their man will indulge. Yet others seem to want nothing less than a monogamous relationship.Just remember it goes both ways. If she is letting you wander around then maybe she is also. Actually, that is more the norm than you might think. I've seen it many times.
What's behind the willingness of some Filipinas to let their boyfriend "play" with other girls? It seems that some girls just accept that there is an abundance of pussy out there and their man will indulge. Yet others seem to want nothing less than a monogamous relationship.Given the choice the girls will want you to stay with them. But they are street smart and know very well why we go to Phi. They know very well in Phi girls are easy to get both working and non-working. If the girl likes you she will not put a shackle on you initially till you get serious with her. She will play along till she hooks you into marrage or sponsorship.
The Dia girl in Manila I met a while ago did not like when I said I will be going to Cebu to meet a girl. She made sure I have several hickeys. The girl I met was asking about it. Since I really did not like the Cebu girl I told her I had a gf in manila. So when I came back to manila the girl asked me so many questions although not in a confrontational way. She knows if she has a confrontration I will kick her out.
Chocha Monger
03-22-11, 00:19
Just remember it goes both ways. If she is letting you wander around then maybe she is also. Actually, that is more the norm than you might think. I've seen it many times.I don't have any illusions about it being a one way street. I'm not providing food and shelter for any of these girls and I hardly expect them to sit on their gold mine while I am off making money for myself. Some take a don't ask don't tell approach to having other girls. Others seem to be saving themselves for marriage and see the other girls as a way for their boyfriend to get pussy by proxy.
What Sammon said makes a lot of sense because the girls seem to be repressing their natural jealous reaction. Filipino guys have pointed out several times that the girls are always keenly aware of how easily they can be replaced. When a pinoy has a problem with his woman he just leaves her and gets another one fresh off the press unlike Westerners who pay large sums of money to relationship counselors in an attempt to salvage the relationship.
Chocha Monger
03-22-11, 08:18
Given the choice the girls will want you to stay with them. But they are street smart and know very well why we go to Phi. They know very well in Phi girls are easy to get both working and non-working. If the girl likes you she will not put a shackle on you initially till you get serious with her. She will play along till she hooks you into marrage or sponsorship.What happens after that? Does she stop playing once you start paying?
FreebieFan
03-22-11, 12:22
Which reminds me of when I built my first house in the strifes village. I designed a bungalow but had the flat roof tiled and semi-roofed to make it into a sun lounging / party area. I discovered that I was overlooking the neighbor's outdoor open top washing shed. Now the neighbor was a widow in her late 30's with two teenage daughters who took turns to bathe at the same time every afternoon. Needless to say that I spent many a happy afternoon up on the roof;).Nice one. What I never liked was the bucket flushing method when the toilet (toilet =dunny, for Red Kilt) isn't connected to a main water supply. So you do your stuff, then pour a bucket of water down the toilet and hope that last recalcitrant turd makes it down the toilet. Otherwise the entire family watches you go and get a 2ND BUCKET! With that knowing look that says " what, you can't flush with one bucket" and " do you know how long its takes to fill those buckets "
What happens after that? Does she stop playing once you start paying?Yes, Once the money dries up she will be most likely look for another victim. But once the channel is created she will always be available for wen you are in Phi irrespective of if she has another sponsor.
These girls learn very fast. Even the province innocent girls get business savvy.
Ofcourse there are some gems who for one reason or another seem not to bother getting new western men. I have couple of them who eagerly wait for me. Do not really know if they are having sex with local boys. Ofcourse they deny.
DriveAllNight
03-22-11, 18:28
But once the channel is created she will always be available for wen you are in Phi irrespective of if she has another sponsor.That's exactly how it's done. Somewhere in Oz, there's a guy who sends monthly WU to a girl named Dallia, and I still screw her silly every couple of months.
Cyber Whip
03-22-11, 21:13
What happens after that? Does she stop playing once you start paying?No, she will keep playing until you catch her, even if you are sending money. After you catch her playing around, then maybe she will stop, or at least try to hide it better. THE only way to know for sure if she is not playing is if you are there with her. Then there is whole other side of playing with the local boys which will be even harder to detect unless, again, if you are there with her all the time.
Eventually you can get her to stop playing around with other guys but it ain't easy.
It's just money to these girls. If you're not there, what's the harm in earning a few bucks on the side? That's their view. As far as the local boy situation goes, it's kind of a status thing with these girls. If everyone knows they have local guys and western guys, then the rest of the neighborhood / friends thinks they are very pretty, they must be to have all these guys after them (in their mind). Also, remember these girls have almost no means of entertainment and get bored very easy sitting at home in their huts all day.
DriveAllNight
03-23-11, 00:20
It's just money to these girls. If you're not there, what's the harm in earning a few bucks on the side? That's their view.That's exactly Dallia's sentiment. Hilarious.
Chocha Monger
03-23-11, 01:37
No, she will keep playing until you catch her, even if you are sending money. After you catch her playing around, then maybe she will stop, or at least try to hide it better. THE only way to know for sure if she is not playing is if you are there with her. Then there is whole other side of playing with the local boys which will be even harder to detect unless, again, if you are there with her all the time.
Eventually you can get her to stop playing around with other guys but it ain't easy.
It's just money to these girls. If you're not there, what's the harm in earning a few bucks on the side? That's their view. As far as the local boy situation goes, it's kind of a status thing with these girls. If everyone knows they have local guys and western guys, then the rest of the neighborhood / friends thinks they are very pretty, they must be to have all these guys after them (in their mind). Also, remember these girls have almost no means of entertainment and get bored very easy sitting at home in their huts all day. Well, I have figured out that they get bored extremely easily hanging out in their nipa huts fending off the amorous overtures of drunken papa, uncles, brothers and cousins. I found out that some of these girls will jump at an opportunity to make some money and escape their squalid dwellings. I keep them busy by putting them to work. So far I am pleasantly surprised at the returns on my investment.
Nice one. What I never liked was the bucket flushing method when the toilet (toilet =dunny, for Red Kilt) isn't connected to a main water supply. So you do your stuff, then pour a bucket of water down the toilet and hope that last recalcitrant turd makes it down the toilet. Otherwise the entire family watches you go and get a 2ND BUCKET! With that knowing look that says " what, you can't flush with one bucket" and " do you know how long its takes to fill those buckets "Ahhh FF you paint such a vivid picture. I can easily visualise that recalcitrant turd swirling around laughing at me and absolutely refusing to duck down out of sight. I do understand the lingo you know? Us Aussies can use dunny, crapper, CR, toilet, shithouse, bathroom. . . Depending on the company).
Good to see you last weekend in between your shagging schedule. I was a bit concerned when we both discovered we were meeting a woman at 7. 30 at the same venue. Luckily they were different women. Funny coincidence. For a while I thought it might be some minx playing us both off and she would choose her preference, but then I realised that given a choice between you and me I would win (after all, age beats beauty everytime in the Phils LOL).
FreebieFan
03-23-11, 10:47
Good to see you last weekend in between your shagging schedule. I was a bit concerned when we both discovered we were meeting a woman at 7. 30 at the same venue. Luckily they were different women. Funny coincidence. For a while I thought it might be some minx playing us both off and she would choose her preference, but then I realised that given a choice between you and me I would win (after all, age beats beauty everytime in the Phils LOL).As you know Philippines is land of acronyms and abbreviations I. E. MWF for a schedule for Mon, Wed and Friday. URTI for Upper respiratory tract infection etc. So let me give you one more. I. Y. D. As in In Your Dreams LOL.
Hows the Howzat lady. Scoring from a sports bar seems appropriate. LOL
the outdoor bucket and scoop shower.I remember enjoying my GF's rather new enclosed latrine. It had large vents just below the roof, at about eye line for me. And as I relieved myself, I could look out and see pineapple fields rising up to emerald mountains, topped with puffy clouds. I thought to myself,"man in the US-you'd have to pay big money for a view like this. But then. You'd be in freakin' Hawaii and not in the middle of Mindanao!"
Chocha Monger
03-23-11, 19:34
I often hear a lot about Filipinas' supposed preference for old men but I seriously question that. I think it's a bunch of bull just like Filipinas' reassurances that they prefer foreign boyfriend but they then quickly run over to Baboy Pineda's love shanty for a hard root before you even board your flight at Ninoy Aquino International Airport. The reason why I say this is because I noticed a pattern on dating sites. Filipinas with a good job or financial security seem to want guys close to their own age. The poorer they are the bigger the age gap they will tolerate. So, it seems desperation and the need for a cash caribou is what really drives the age gap rather than any personal preferences in a relationship. On dating sites I also get a lot of Filipinas between the ages of 38 to 44 yrs living in the US who ask if I would be willing to date an older woman. A lot of middle-aged Filipinas also target young guys in singles bars in the US. What that tells me is that these women go after older guys back in the Philippines because they believe this age range is more likely to marry and take them home than the young guys who still have options for finding a young wife back home. Once they get to the US they start looking for the young hard cock that they truly crave.
I often hear a lot about Filipinas' supposed preference for old men but I seriously question that. I think it's a bunch of bullYah, you hear this nonsense all throughout SE Asia. All the hot teenagers are always with teens or with young twenty somethings.
A lot of older guys like to think that they are desired by young girls, but it's only the money they are interested in. Some guys are just stuck in "la la" land!
Radical Guy
03-23-11, 23:20
I often hear a lot about Filipinas' supposed preference for old men but I seriously question that. I think it's a bunch of bull just like Filipinas' reassurances that they prefer foreign boyfriend but they then quickly run over to Baboy Pineda's love shanty for a hard root before you even board your flight at Ninoy Aquino International Airport. The reason why I say this is because I noticed a pattern on dating sites. Filipinas with a good job or financial security seem to want guys close to their own age. The poorer they are the bigger the age gap they will tolerate. So, it seems desperation and the need for a cash caribou is what really drives the age gap rather than any personal preferences in a relationship. On dating sites I also get a lot of Filipinas between the ages of 38 to 44 yrs living in the US who ask if I would be willing to date an older woman. A lot of middle-aged Filipinas also target young guys in singles bars in the US. What that tells me is that these women go after older guys back in the Philippines because they believe this age range is more likely to marry and take them home than the young guys who still have options for finding a young wife back home. Once they get to the US they start looking for the young hard cock that they truly crave.This may describe some Filipinas, but certainly not all. My wife, a Filipina to whom I have been married for 5 years, has an aunt in Pittsburgh, about 33 years old. The aunt married an American guy when she was 19 and the guy was 52, and they stayed together for 9 years (no kids) until the guy died of a heart attack.
Well, my wife and I visited the aunt last January. She is still very slim and sexy, attractive in every way, yet she is not interested in dating. Her apartment is STILL a shrine to her dead husband and the marriage they had together. She has hundreds of pictures of her husband all over the place, and talks about him all the time. Frankly, I don't understand what she saw in the guy. He wasn't rich, just a postal carrier, and was an ordinary, balding, chubby white guy.
I guess it is possible that when the aunt initially met her husband, she was interested in a "ticket" out of life in the Philippines and the American dream. But if love wasn't there in the beginning, it clearly took root when they were married.
I think that many, perhaps most, Filipinas have the ability to *choose* to love someone, and once that choice is made, that love is as real as it would have been if it occurred naturally. They are inherently the most loving creatures I have ever known.
My wife talks to her aunt frequently on the phone, and encourages her to date, but the aunt still misses her husband terribly and can't bring herself to be with another man. Go figure!
RG
GoodEnough
03-23-11, 23:23
I think there are lots of guys here looking for hard and fast rules, when the fact is there aren't any. While it's true that poverty is often the impetus for the entire mongering scene, and for the abundance of young and available sex partners, the "preference" (or not) for older men is not as easy a subject to generalize about accurately. For every case the someone presents here of of a relationship gone south once the girl gets to the countries where the streets are paved with gold, I could point to another case in which the lady has remIned faithful, happy and devoted. I think this speaks more to the integrity and general character of individual women than to social truisms. If I'm correct-that the longevity of a relationship depends more on the characters of those involved in it-then it's critical that guys who come here looking for such relationships take the time to really get to know and understand the women with whom they're establishing the relationships. There's just no substitute, in my opinion, for taking the time to allow relationships to evolve and for getting to know each other outside of the explosive scenes in bed. This cannot typically happen during a two or three week holiday. It takes months, not weeks, to get a true sense of character.
GE
I often hear a lot about Filipinas' supposed preference for old men but I seriously question that. I think it's a bunch of bull just like Filipinas' reassurances that they prefer foreign boyfriend but they then quickly run over to Baboy Pineda's love shanty for a hard root before you even board your flight at Ninoy Aquino International Airport. The reason why I say this is because I noticed a pattern on dating sites. Filipinas with a good job or financial security seem to want guys close to their own age. The poorer they are the bigger the age gap they will tolerate. So, it seems desperation and the need for a cash caribou is what really drives the age gap rather than any personal preferences in a relationship. On dating sites I also get a lot of Filipinas between the ages of 38 to 44 yrs living in the US who ask if I would be willing to date an older woman. A lot of middle-aged Filipinas also target young guys in singles bars in the US. What that tells me is that these women go after older guys back in the Philippines because they believe this age range is more likely to marry and take them home than the young guys who still have options for finding a young wife back home. Once they get to the US they start looking for the young hard cock that they truly crave.I have also looked for girls on DIA for a while. On my profile I left the age range open from "18-99", but actually I want to meet some cute girls 18+ (I am 68). Girls I cannot get in my home country, not even for money and could not get, even when I was a young man. It is a bit unfair, because many of offers from 50-68 year old women are coming in (those who really may be interested in an old man and not just his money) but they are too old and ugly and are not turning me on. Philippine women don't age as well as those in the North of Europe. So why would I fly to the Philippines to marry an old woman, I can have for free in my own county, who would possibly pay me to be with her? So I really do not understand, what the problem is? Why not just let the girls earn some money and let the old men have some fun with them, but also let the girls enjoy sex with boys their own age, or younger, if they need it?
Hairy Wonder
03-24-11, 05:35
I often hear a lot about Filipinas' supposed preference for old men but I seriously question that. I think it's a bunch of bullAs GE stated, anyone can post examples to prove or disprove your point.
I myself had a Filipina girlfriend while I was in Korea. This girl was very hot, with a body that made men drool, and other women jealous. I'm sure that many, when they saw us together, wondered what such a beautiful, young girl was doing with an old, fat, broke down guy like me. She could have had any guy she wanted, and even had some young "studs" that were willing to give her anything she wanted, regardless of the price. For whatever reason, she chose me over them. I was at least 20 years older than most of the men (American, Korean, Filipino, and other nationalities) that were chasing her. I was separated (not divorced) , had 2 kids of my own, overweight, no extra spending money, and multiple health problems. Still, she wanted to be with me. When I asked her why she gave up everything she could have had with the other guys, she would tell me that I had a better personality, and that I wasn't just trying to fuck her (well, so much for woman's intuition). If I had been divorced at that time, I would probably married her. But her visa expired, and she was forced to return to PI. Being a natural Filipina, she wanted me to be on the phone, messenger, or something all of the time after that point. It got so bad, that I couldn't go shopping without her constantly sending me text, wanting to know when I was going to be online again. As much as I liked being with this girl, I couldn't stand her need for constant communication. I broke up with her after about 6 months of her return to PI. We still keep in touch, and she tells me that she will remain faithful to me (yeah, right) for the rest of her life. I sometimes consider taking her out for a fun night for sex when I visit PI again. But then I think about how jealous and vindictive Filipinas can be.
Cunning Stunt
03-24-11, 08:50
A poor young country girl spends 3 hours on buses / jeepneys traveling into the city to meet a foreign stranger who proceeds to give her a long, hard double fuck, one of which culminates in a face full of sperm.
She climbs back onto the jeepney for the long journey back home. Her pussy is sore and she can still taste the salty tang of the mans come in her mouth. She smiles. She is happy. She got what she came for.
Cunning Stunt
03-24-11, 08:59
The man feels horny for some 'fresh young meat'. He scans through his latest DIA contacts and sends a few text messages. Good, one 25 year old girl is available and willing to make the long trip from her provincial home. Tight body, no kids, says that she hasn't been shagged since she finished with her last bf, about a year ago. Better and better.
He rapidly agrees to very reasonable 'expenses' (the price of a bag of groceries) for which she is pathetically grateful, what is on the 'menu', and the venue which is a hotel close to his home. Let the girl do the hard traveling.
He checks into the ST hotel and waits for the girl. She arrives 20 minutes later. Nice. Very shy, nervous and tiny figured with lovely nut brown skin which betrays a few small marks and scars of her poor rural existence. He warms her up in the shower by some head-on dfk, all the while slipping his finger in and out of her moist, rapidly readying pussy.
They repair to the bed where he subjects the girl to 2 hours of hard fucking, in every conceivable position coming once in her tight, young c*nt and once earth shatteringly, splattering all over her pretty brown face.
They clean up, dress, kiss and part. He strolls home. He can still savor the honey like taste of the girl's pussy juices on his lips. He smiles. He is happy. He got what he came for.
I often hear a lot about Filipinas' supposed preference for old men but I seriously question that. I think it's a bunch of bull . . .All I said to FF was a joke that "age beats beauty everytime in the Phils" and that set off a debate about whether pinays prefer old guys or young guys.
I think this debate will go on for ever without resolution as it has no answer.
GE summed up the philosophy of the issue very well and I agree with his analysis. I especially agree with his point that for any guy who thinks he has found "The One" he needs to spend an extended time with her full-time to see just where her main interests lie, what her priorities are and to gauge the degree to which she is obligated to her family.
In some cases this can be sorted out in a short time especially with the mindless and uneducated girls (forget about the size of their boobs and the shape of their ass for just a minute).
For others it is more complex and you will often be gob-smacked by the inconsistent behavior of many of them (back-flips are common).
All this can only be assessed over at least a month of full-time living together.
Trust GE and I on this. We have "been there and done that"
FreebieFan
03-24-11, 13:27
Yah, you hear this nonsense all throughout SE Asia. All the hot teenagers are always with teens or with young twenty somethings.
A lot of older guys like to think that they are desired by young girls, but it's only the money they are interested in. Some guys are just stuck in "la la" land!Hmm the 5 I had last weekend, including the 19 year old and 22 year old basically got nothing for their time of being with me. I had to ask them to take the p1000 as a gift. Maybe your generalisation not quite as accurate a you think.
Hmm the 5 I had last weekend, including the 19 year old and 22 year old basically got nothing for their time of being with me. I had to ask them to take the p1000 as a gift. Maybe your generalisation not quite as accurate a you think.Are they hot? Lets see the pics then we'll decide. I'm talking about "hot", not mediocre or doable. And we're talking about a girl's preference not choices at hand.
Throughout the world I've seen the majority of hot, sexy beauties, with either young studs or rich older men. If young girls (and 22yo + isn't young in asia) perfered older men (40+) then you'd see every old geezer with hot young babes. It just isn't so.
The majority of high school girls are with high school guys and the majority of college girls are with college guys.
Now I'm not saying that older guys can't score young girls, but I don't see "hot" younger girls going out of there way to meet older men(unless it's financially driven). Sure there is the occasional exception, but it's not commonplace. And if you get a "hot" young babe that isn't about the money, you scored! How many times can you repeat that if all those "hot" babes are so into you?
So if you doubt me and you're older (40+) , then why don't you have a harem full of hot young 18yo babes begging you to come fuck them every night for free? That only exists in "la la" land.
BTW, I'm not trying to disrespect anyone on this board that is "old". Growing old is a part of life that we all must face.
. . . . . .
So if you doubt me and you're older (40+) , then why don't you have a harem full of hot young 18yo babes begging you to come fuck them every night for free? That only exists in "la la" land. . . . . I am not sure how much time you have spent in the Phils Amjeck but the Phils is "la la land".
I know guys in Davao and Manila who are 40 + who have hot, young babes lining up to visit them for free. I envy them because it doesn't quite happen for me, but I know it happens for them so just let it go. It can and does happen.
Cunning Stunt
03-25-11, 08:37
I am not sure how much time you have spent in the Phils Amjeck but the Phils is "la la land".
I know guys in Davao and Manila who are 40 + who have hot, young babes lining up to visit them for free. I envy them because it doesn't quite happen for me, but I know it happens for them so just let it go. It can and does happen. Guys who have spent little time in The Philippines do not realize how easy it is to get young and willing pussy here. Age doesn't come into it. This is particularly the case for members whose usual destination is the LOS where congress between foreign tourists and female locals mostly tend to be of the commercial variety.
This said, although freebies are readily available, unless a girl has indicated otherwise (in a good job or a wifey having a little extramarital fun) , I invariably give some money as it is always appreciated.
I am not sure how much time you have spent in the Phils Amjeck but the Phils is "la la land".
I know guys in Davao and Manila who are 40 + who have hot, young babes lining up to visit them for free. I envy them because it doesn't quite happen for me, but I know it happens for them so just let it go. It can and does happen. Ok, so Davao is the place to go then? This is what I wanted to know, because I don't see this happening in Manila or Cebu.
Chocha Monger
03-25-11, 09:27
This may describe some Filipinas, but certainly not all. My wife, a Filipina to whom I have been married for 5 years, has an aunt in Pittsburgh, about 33 years old. The aunt married an American guy when she was 19 and the guy was 52, and they stayed together for 9 years (no kids) until the guy died of a heart attack.
Well, my wife and I visited the aunt last January. She is still very slim and sexy, attractive in every way, yet she is not interested in dating. Her apartment is STILL a shrine to her dead husband and the marriage they had together. She has hundreds of pictures of her husband all over the place, and talks about him all the time. Frankly, I don't understand what she saw in the guy. He wasn't rich, just a postal carrier, and was an ordinary, balding, chubby white guy.
I guess it is possible that when the aunt initially met her husband, she was interested in a "ticket" out of life in the Philippines and the American dream. But if love wasn't there in the beginning, it clearly took root when they were married.
I think that many, perhaps most, Filipinas have the ability to *choose* to love someone, and once that choice is made, that love is as real as it would have been if it occurred naturally. They are inherently the most loving creatures I have ever known.
My wife talks to her aunt frequently on the phone, and encourages her to date, but the aunt still misses her husband terribly and can't bring herself to be with another man. Go figure!
RGI think such Filipinas are the exception rather than the rule. It takes a long time to find that kind of girl. It doesn't help that most foreign guys come to the Philippines chasing tender age and beauty. As GE said there are no set rules and the character of those involved plays a part. The odds are the ambitious girls are less likely to stick with the average monger who washes ashore in the Philippines. To be fair to the girls there are a lot of odd characters in the hobby. I don't doubt a lot of girls have some damn good reasons for dumping their sponsors like a hot shit the minute they make it pass the immigration check point.
Filipinas can be very loving and devoted even if a bit too easily swayed by what they see on TV. A few would even stick with a loser foreign husband in spite of better available options. However, it is a bit more complicated than add young pussy and stir as many guys believe. From what I've seen most Filipinas refuse to move back to the Philippines with their retiree husbands once getting a taste of US consumerism and living on credit. Also, not having any competition from other females is a strong incentive for them to stay in the US instead of returning to the Philippines where they're in constant peril of being dethroned by each new crop of cherry pussy.
FreebieFan
03-25-11, 11:52
Are they hot? Lets see the pics then we'll decide. I'm talking about "hot", not mediocre or doable. And we're talking about a girl's preference not choices at hand.
BTW, I'm not trying to disrespect anyone on this board that is "old". Growing old is a part of life that we all must face.No disrepect given back, but the rare pics I share here I do because I choose to. Not because I need to prove anything to anyone. Got past that particular stage a long long long time. And one mans hot is anothers leftovers etc.
Come visit the Phils and you will see what goes on here.
Hairy Wonder
03-25-11, 16:31
Amjeck,
I have to agree with FreebieFan on this topic. You may be correct that not all hot, young Filipinas want to partner up with foreigners in the over 40 age group. However, as with any "rule," there are always exceptions. There are plenty of women the world over that would hook up with any man if she thought she could get money from him, or somehow better her current status. Unfortunately, those kind of generalizations are applied to entire cultures, based off of statistics or a few known incidents. And again, I will say there are always exceptions.
When I began the US military requirements for marrying a Korean citizen, I was advised to be careful, because my commander knew someone that married Korean, and she ran away as soon as she cleared immigration in the US. At the time, statistics showed that this was a highly common occurrence, as Koreans (a 3rd world country then) saw the US as a better place for opportunities they did not have at home. My marriage lasted 20 years before we had problems that caused us to separate and eventually divorce. I still feel we beat the odds of the statistics.
As for hot women, I have seen many of the photos that FF has posted, and I think they are very hot. You may not feel the same way, and you have the right to your opinion. Everybody has their own opinion of what makes a woman hot or not. No need to argue the point. We all are on here to find out where others have been successful at our hobby. If someone likes some girl, place or action, let them enjoy it and tell others about it. Maybe some of use would also enjoy it as well.
I don't think you can pin point any one area as "the place" in Philippines. I'm sure there are plenty of young willing women all over the country. In some places, you may have to search harder to find the ones that appeal to you, but they are there.
IMHO.
HW
Radical Guy
03-25-11, 18:49
Amjeck,
As for hot women, I have seen many of the photos that FF has posted, and I think they are very hot. You may not feel the same way, and you have the right to your opinion. Everybody has their own opinion of what makes a woman hot or not. No need to argue the point. We all are on here to find out where others have been successful at our hobby. If someone likes some girl, place or action, let them enjoy it and tell others about it. Maybe some of use would also enjoy it as well. Yes,"hot-ness" is definitely subjective. For example, for me, a woman with a shaved pussy is a turn-off. I want a lady with a totally natural, unshaven bush. It seems that I am in a minority in this regard. To me, the hottest women are the ones who wear no makeup, dress simply, and stay natural.
RG
Member #4351
03-25-11, 19:10
R. G, I'm with you on the subject of natural pussy. Its evolutionary and augments sexual pheromones. Shaved pussy looks like a plucked chicken and generally smells as sexy as a forearm.
On a different subject, I have found that some guys from the forum have the unfortunate habit of GIVING POCKET ROCKETS as gifts to the girls. This results in the girl becoming addicted to the vibrator and not being able to have an orgasm without it. Keep the pocket rockets for occasional use with the girls when you visit, don't give them as gifts! This has happened here in Peru as well. I'm sure you guys don't understand the negative effects of such a gift, but IMHO should stick to giving chocolates.
Chocha Monger
03-25-11, 23:19
R. G, I'm with you on the subject of natural pussy. Its evolutionary and augments sexual pheromones. Shaved pussy looks like a plucked chicken and generally smells as sexy as a forearm.
On a different subject, I have found that some guys from the forum have the unfortunate habit of GIVING POCKET ROCKETS as gifts to the girls. This results in the girl becoming addicted to the vibrator and not being able to have an orgasm without it. Keep the pocket rockets for occasional use with the girls when you visit, don't give them as gifts! This has happened here in Peru as well. I'm sure you guys don't understand the negative effects of such a gift, but IMHO should stick to giving chocolates. David,
The vibrators are an unfortunate consequence of increased sex tourism to the region. Filipinas are used to achieving orgasm through a hard shag of relatively short duration. Standard Filipino sex is limited to insertion of the penis into the vagina followed by a burst of rapid vigorous pumps leading to a swift climax. Foreplay is minimal to nonexistent. There is no such thing as premature ejaculation in the Philippines. Men who are prone to early pearlies are not stigmatized. In fact, given the living arrangements with extended family members sharing limited space, long bouts of loud lusty fucking is often out of the question. Loving on the run rooster and hen style is optimal.
Sex tourists bring vibrators, pussy licking, porn and pharmaceutically induced erections to the Philippines oblivious to the fact that they're perhaps ruining the natural sexual responsiveness of Filipinas to nothing more than a natural fuck. Soon Filipinas will be demanding to have their pussies licked for half an hour before penetration is permitted like American women. Filipinas are some of the fastest naturally self-lubricating women on the planet and bringing artificial lubes into the bedroom intented for post-menopausal Western women suffering from vaginal dryness interferes with their natural physiology.
Like all forms of tourism, sex tourism eventually has negative impacts on the environment and culture of the area visited. If you've ever had the unfortunate experience of seeing a once secluded and pristine beach ruined by the construction of beach front hotels and the crowds that follow then you'll understand. The only way to practice sustainable mongering is to venture to ever remote corners of the provinces and keep what you find in those areas off the web.
you guys don't understand the negative effects of such a gift, but IMHO should stick to giving chocolates.Yes but the chocolate will leave such a mess in their pussy!
Radical Guy
03-26-11, 01:54
Soon Filipinas will be demanding to have their pussies licked for half an hour before penetration is permitted.. And I will happily oblige! Hahaha
Member #4491
03-26-11, 02:04
Only just today I had a message from a Davaoenia I fucked last trip:
"I am a bit disappointed. You did not lick my pussy as you promised in the chat some months ago."
Myanmar, get ready for here comes the 1 minute wonder.
B
Are they hot? Lets see the pics then we'll decide. I'm talking about "hot", not mediocre or doable. And we're talking about a girl's preference not choices at hand.
Throughout the world I've seen the majority of hot, sexy beauties, with either young studs or rich older men. If young girls (and 22yo + isn't young in asia) perfered older men (40+) then you'd see every old geezer with hot young babes. It just isn't so.
The majority of high school girls are with high school guys and the majority of college girls are with college guys.
Now I'm not saying that older guys can't score young girls, but I don't see "hot" younger girls going out of there way to meet older men (unless it's financially driven). Sure there is the occasional exception, but it's not commonplace. And if you get a "hot" young babe that isn't about the money, you scored! How many times can you repeat that if all those "hot" babes are so into you?
So if you doubt me and you're older (40+) , then why don't you have a harem full of hot young 18yo babes begging you to come fuck them every night for free? That only exists in "la la" land.
BTW, I'm not trying to disrespect anyone on this board that is "old". Growing old is a part of life that we all must face. I have to agree with you for the most part. Getting older does mean having a harder time scoring with hot chicks. Have to remember they also eye us guys as "eye candy too".
Just from my own experiences, I had a much easier time 10. 20 years ago scoring hot young ladies than now. Today, they look at me more from a walking ATM frame of mind than walking hand in hand based on mutual attraction. But also know that there are always exceptions to rules but exceptions is just as the word implies.
Exception=rarely happens.
Don't get me wrong, I'm still looking for that exception. One hot babe that will love me for who I am (avg. Upper middle age guy with avg. Income).
FreebieFan
03-27-11, 07:08
Borne out of greed to recreate the hot experiences we had with a sweet lady we are sometimes tempted to go back for a repeat. Sadly in most cases its not so exciting because theres no sense of suprise as you unwrap your " present ".
A few weeks back I invited a little firecracker of a Filipina to my place in Taiwan. Was a highly memorable experience as she readily did a sweet little strip and was happy to pose in some of the slutwear I bought for her. Some memorable pics. Last night we did a repeat, with the nurse costume, and the dogcollar (if nothing else it produces some interesting reactions from girls. Thanks for the idea WR!). But to be honest I was kinda bored. Girl hot, photo taking hot, post photo shag was hot. But I'm still bored, primarily because it was expected and lacked the " wow nice suprise " element.
I find its the same with most girls I meet. Fresh girls needed on a regular basis. Luckily theres a steady production line of them
Jon Guoren
04-02-11, 16:12
I picked up a filipina girl at a club in Hong Kong about 5 days before she had to return to Philipines after breaking her contract with her employer. I am fairly green with filipinas but getting the idea.
1) She was not a hooker per se we had a lot of sex together. Got seriously caught up with this girl and had a lot of bare back with her. 'I want to have your baby' etc. Etc. Although this sounds ridiculous I did put in a lot of work and it would not surprise me if this was genuine given her personality.
2) There were times I thought I was going to get taken for a ride but she manage to get me to feel I was being unfairly judgmental of her and to be totally evidence-based honest, I was. At same time my instincts seem to have predicted the course of events quite well.
3) She goes back fo Philipines after we have had a lot of crazy bare back sex and said we love each other and acted like it. Seems a bit fake from both of us, but at same time, there is authenticity from both of us. Both of us married, should not be having affairs but both away from spouses.
Please assume no matter what you may think that in this instance, I do not believe she has tried this stunt before. Even if it sounds 'to good to be true'. In other words some of you will instantly recognise I am being taken for a ride here but please bear in mind the above and the fact she could be pregnant and has said she would want the baby if so and both of us. I know. Impossible to reconcile. Or say with any intregrity. But catholic. So not keen at all on abortion. Please assume then that this is not an option. Just suppose.
So she gets back and I write to her on FBook. Get righteously angry message back from hubby fkuc you ***** etc. I clear a few things up with him and apologise for being out of order. At same time I do admit to having had ex with her. Don't ask about how the dialogue transpired. But anyway, he asked me not to 'love her she is married etc. ' She has said he is a jobless deadbeat 10 yrs older, beats on her etc.
I have told both of them I support their marriage and basically want them to try to work it out. At same time I am afraid she is pregnant.
I just got a 'no money' email saying period has not come and that she wants to see doctor. What shall I (she) do.
Told her take pg test first.
It is very difficult for me to measure what is going on here. It could be 50/50 or 10/90 or 70/30 that one or the other thing is true.
A) that she is pregnant, would have the baby if she is, wants me to make some contibutions if so, genuinely misses me and would like a love relationship with me (with or without financial 'benefits'
Be) that I am being scammed for some much needed money. She wants a recurring income off me simply because her life is blooming hard for her right now.
Like I say please don't assume it is be) although it may seem obvious at the same time like I say I really cannot gauge this situ with a clear mind (too much monging). It could be a) I am not kidding.
Of course I am not going to send any money unless I have proof she is carrying my baby and furter evidence that she is choosing to follow thru.
Lastly I have really dropped her and me in it by admitting the sex to the husband due to the adultery law I have just read about. Is there any mileage in this?
On the one hand I do not want to go to Philipines or have any more to do with this situ. Husband may still want me shot although I have done a lot to show him I am actually a person who does give a shit sometimes and in this situation am willling to take responsibility to a degee and if he loves her still, respect and support that. I know this is all crackers. I did warn you I am green!
Other hand is if she is pregnant and so on I want to do something for her and for the child in the long term but no way am I going to leave my current proper partner. And I am quite worried also about the adultery law in the Phil.
I am sure there are mongers and members here seen this before even been in the situ. Please help out if you can. Be as brutal or as gentle as you like, just be authentic please I am in an emotional situ and sometimes feel manipulated, other times in a weird love-child rel. That contains real love but out of a fkuced up situ where we've both cheated.
She may have filtered out that I made it clear that this was not going to become an exclusive rel. For me and that there is no way I am leaving my family over this. At same time. Benefits to her if she were to leave her hub properly and get into one with me. Anyway dudes. This one is complicated and doing my nut somewhat. Do not want to let t be / let it go. Just yet. So lke stated really need to get this thread out there to get brotherly counsel.
FreebieFan
04-03-11, 11:55
It is very difficult for me to measure what is going on here. It could be 50/50 or 10/90 or 70/30 that one or the other thing is true.
A) that she is pregnant, would have the baby if she is, wants me to make some contibutions if so, genuinely misses me and would like a love relationship with me (with or without financial 'benefits'
Be) that I am being scammed for some much needed money. She wants a recurring income off me simply because her life is blooming hard for her right now.
Like I say please don't assume it is be) although it may seem obvious at the same time like I say I really cannot gauge this situ with a clear mind (too much monging). It could be a) I am not kidding.
Of course I am not going to send any money unless I have proof she is carrying my baby and furter evidence that she is choosing to follow thru.
Lastly I have really dropped her and me in it by admitting the sex to the husband due to the adultery law I have just read about. Is there any mileage in this?
On the one hand I do not want to go to Philipines or have any more to do with this situ. Husband may still want me shot although I have done a lot to show him I am actually a person who does give a shit sometimes and in this situation am willling to take responsibility to a degee and if he loves her still, respect and support that. I know this is all crackers. I did warn you I am green!
Other hand is if she is pregnant and so on I want to do something for her and for the child in the long term but no way am I going to leave my current proper partner. And I am quite worried also about the adultery law in the Phil.
I am sure there are mongers and members here seen this before even been in the situ. Please help out if you can. Be as brutal or as gentle as you like, just be authentic please I am in an emotional situ and sometimes feel manipulated, other times in a weird love-child rel. That contains real love but out of a fkuced up situ where we've both cheated.
CounselYou are goning to get a lot of varying opinions on this but without knowing the girl her character (or her assumed character in the role she played) none of us will know.
However one thing that most would concur on, is don't go anywhere near her or hubby in Philippines. Go thre and monger the way we all do. But do not go anywhere near her or husband. If you there and it is a scam, your in the shit.
If you go there and husband knows where you are you in shit Filipino men can be truly vindicative, vengeful an without remorse if they think they have been "bested " by another man.
However you try and resolve this situation, do not, repeat do not, repeat do not (got the point!) go and try to sort to out with with the wife or husband in Phils.
A) that she is pregnant, would have the baby if she is, wants me to make some contibutions if so, genuinely misses me and would like a love relationship with me (with or without financial 'benefits'
Be) that I am being scammed for some much needed money. She wants a recurring income off me simply because her life is blooming hard for her right now. You said yourself that you are a "greenhorn" and I do not comment about that.
Are you REALLY sure it was the "husband" to talk to?
This sounds for me as a BIG SETUP and I think other forum members will contribute to my opinion.
My advise:
Block her in your facebook and stop any kind of contact with her.
She is most likely a SCAMMER, scamming you together with her PINOY (or even foreigner?) boyfriend.
Just my personal opinion. Thanks GOD I am infertile and cannot make babies.
Ram
Filipinas can be very loving and devoted even if a bit too easily swayed by what they see on TV. A few would even stick with a loser foreign husband in spite of better available options. However, it is a bit more complicated than add young pussy and stir as many guys believe. From what I've seen most Filipinas refuse to move back to the Philippines with their retiree husbands once getting a taste of US consumerism and living on credit. Also, not having any competition from other females is a strong incentive for them to stay in the US instead of returning to the Philippines where they're in constant peril of being dethroned by each new crop of cherry pussy.Truer words have never been spoken, I should know I lived with a Filipina in the UK for 7 years. She had bought her own house outside Manila and I was able to afford to live in the Philippines without worrying about finding work. She wanted to start a family but point blank refused to move back to the Philippines, even when I pointed out how easy it would be for us to afford a very comfortable life there. She was not very well educated, spent her life watching rubbish on TV and worked in a menial but (even for UK standards) very well paid job. She had her own credit cards (all spent to the very edge of her credit limits) attention from guys all the time and complete freedom to do what she wanted. She always had the latest cell phone, new clothes, perfume and jewellery (bought on her credit cards) so why would she want to give all that up to be dependent on me, living back in the Philippines and knowing I would be the one getting attention from girls all the time. If you look at it logically, she would be crazy to go back to the Philippines with me and give up that kind of lifestyle. If I ever settle down again with someone from the Philippines (yes we split up last year) , I would NEVER NEVER bring that girl back to my country. Some guys here will point out that there are successful relationships where the girl has returned to the guy's (victim's) country of origin but the odds are heavily weighted against success. I think that the odds become more favourable if the age difference is not too great, but that would mean me settling down with some overweight, middle aged Pinay grandmother. Yuk
First of all you are in a buyers remorse mode. I think you have fallen in love with her.
1. How do you know you are the father? To confirm this you may have to go Phi and get tested. You think the husband / bf / pimp will let you off easily?
2. Seldom a woman will admit to her husband that she is carrying somebody elses baby let alone getting.
Husband, bf, pimp harass you online.
3. This all looks like a scam to me.
I had a same problem with a virgin girl I had. She told me she is pregnant and wanted abortion because she was only 18 years old. I told her to go to the clinic and send me the letter from the climc as to what the expenses will be.
She did send me a bill from the clinic, however I have no way of authenticating it is true.
Anyway I did send money which was not much. We did meet couple of times later but I did put her on the pill.
Your options are,
1. Do not worry about any Phi laws. Nobody is going to come after you.
2. I would not suggest to you to go to Phi to clear this problem. You will be deeper problems if not body harm.
3. If you feel guilty about fathering a child, After the child is born ask the girl to send samples to match your genetics.
You can get it tested to make sure you are the father.
If you are the father make arrangements to send money to support the child. Phi is cheap and will not cost a bundle. Do not let her know you are the father. Just say you just want to help and the tests were inconclusive.
I would not advice you to send the test results to her because she may get a lawyer to cause you headaches.
If you are not the father walk away and do send the test results to her.
Meanwhile just tell her you want the test results to make sure you are the father. If you feel generous just send her small amount of money to shut her and her husband / bf / pimp up.
Chocha Monger
04-03-11, 20:35
I picked up a filipina girl at a club in Hong Kong about 5 days before she had to return to Philipines after breaking her contract with her employer. I am fairly green with filipinas but getting the idea.
1) She was not a hooker per se we had a lot of sex together. Got seriously caught up with this girl and had a lot of bare back with her. 'I want to have your baby' etc. Etc. Although this sounds ridiculous I did put in a lot of work and it would not surprise me if this was genuine given her personality.
2) There were times I thought I was going to get taken for a ride but she manage to get me to feel I was being unfairly judgmental of her and to be totally evidence-based honest, I was. At same time my instincts seem to have predicted the course of events quite well.
3) She goes back fo Philipines after we have had a lot of crazy bare back sex and said we love each other and acted like it. Seems a bit fake from both of us, but at same time, there is authenticity from both of us. Both of us married, should not be having affairs but both away from spouses.
Please assume no matter what you may think that in this instance, I do not believe she has tried this stunt before. Even if it sounds 'to good to be true'. In other words some of you will instantly recognise I am being taken for a ride here but please bear in mind the above and the fact she could be pregnant and has said she would want the baby if so and both of us. I know. Impossible to reconcile. Or say with any intregrity. But catholic. So not keen at all on abortion. Please assume then that this is not an option. Just suppose.
So she gets back and I write to her on FBook. Get righteously angry message back from hubby fkuc you * etc. I clear a few things up with him and apologise for being out of order. At same time I do admit to having had ex with her. Don't ask about how the dialogue transpired. But anyway, he asked me not to 'love her she is married etc. ' She has said he is a jobless deadbeat 10 yrs older, beats on her etc.
I have told both of them I support their marriage and basically want them to try to work it out. At same time I am afraid she is pregnant.
I just got a 'no money' email saying period has not come and that she wants to see doctor. What shall I (she) do.
Told her take pg test first.
It is very difficult for me to measure what is going on here. It could be 50/50 or 10/90 or 70/30 that one or the other thing is true.
A) that she is pregnant, would have the baby if she is, wants me to make some contibutions if so, genuinely misses me and would like a love relationship with me (with or without financial 'benefits'
Be) that I am being scammed for some much needed money. She wants a recurring income off me simply because her life is blooming hard for her right now.
Like I say please don't assume it is be) although it may seem obvious at the same time like I say I really cannot gauge this situ with a clear mind (too much monging). It could be a) I am not kidding.
Of course I am not going to send any money unless I have proof she is carrying my baby and furter evidence that she is choosing to follow thru.
Lastly I have really dropped her and me in it by admitting the sex to the husband due to the adultery law I have just read about. Is there any mileage in this?
On the one hand I do not want to go to Philipines or have any more to do with this situ. Husband may still want me shot although I have done a lot to show him I am actually a person who does give a shit sometimes and in this situation am willling to take responsibility to a degee and if he loves her still, respect and support that. I know this is all crackers. I did warn you I am green!
Other hand is if she is pregnant and so on I want to do something for her and for the child in the long term but no way am I going to leave my current proper partner. And I am quite worried also about the adultery law in the Phil.
I am sure there are mongers and members here seen this before even been in the situ. Please help out if you can. Be as brutal or as gentle as you like, just be authentic please I am in an emotional situ and sometimes feel manipulated, other times in a weird love-child rel. That contains real love but out of a fkuced up situ where we've both cheated.
She may have filtered out that I made it clear that this was not going to become an exclusive rel. For me and that there is no way I am leaving my family over this. At same time. Benefits to her if she were to leave her hub properly and get into one with me. Anyway dudes. This one is complicated and doing my nut somewhat. Do not want to let t be / let it go. Just yet. So lke stated really need to get this thread out there to get brotherly counsel. It's amazing the trouble a small thing like a penis can cause when inserted in the wrong places. Sammon gave you some good advice. Stay away from the Philippines and do not send money. The 'husband' or whoever he is has asked you to stay away from her. You trespassed on his pussy. What's done is done! Let the girl and her man work out how they want to resolve this. If someone recklessly barebacked your wife multiple times you certainly wouldn't want any favors from the guy. You need to remove yourself from the equation. Leave the girl alone. As you said you have no intention of leaving your wife and family for her. If she parts ways with her husband and requests support for the child then render it only after a paternity test proves it is indeed yours.
On the other hand, it sounds like it is nothing more than a scam. This girl engaged in wanton adultery with you but is too religious to have an abortion? She is still with her husband but intends to give birth to your bastard love child? The husband had a conversation with you on Facebook. She claims he beats her and is a deadbeat and yet they're still together. In fact, they're so close that he was able to see your message to her on Facebook. Anything doesn't sound right here? Don't be surprised if your wife, family or friends are contacted about your infidelity and possible bastard love child. My guess is that you're being set up for some major extortion. If you're keen on keeping your marriage intact the best thing you can do is cease contact and cover your tracks before your rabbit gets boiled. It may sound cruel but it is no more callous than repeatedly bare-backing her and spewing your seed in her hole with reckless abandon know all the while you both were married to other people. Sometimes you must be cruel to be kind. This situation seems to be one of those times. In your mind you want to make it right but you can't.
If she broke her contract with her employer, without a doubt, she is on the hook for large sums of money. The agency is most likely pressing her to repay those monies. If any land or other collateral was used to secure funding for the agency fees the family is probably about to lose it in court. This would be an extremely strong motive for her to resort to desperate measures, e. G. Scamming you and other foreigners she had sex with.
GoodEnough
04-03-11, 22:05
This is the land of the eternal scam, and it's often impossible to distinguish truth from semi-truth to outright fiction. I agree therefore with the previous post; protect yourself, admit that you will never discern the reality of the situation and get the hell away. If you picked her up in a club, your encounter with her was not a first time experience for her. The fact is, she was trolling and she caught you. Filipinas are the masters of the GFE so it's not at all surprising that you became enamored for a few days. Just leave it at that and move on. I wouldn't worry at all about avoiding the country. The odds on her having the clout to get you in any sort of trouble with the immigration folks here are negligible.
GE
LittleTruths
04-03-11, 22:39
Wow Jon, WOW.
You're both (supposedly) married and you're still playing Facebook messaging with her as if busting nuts in her punani wasn't fun enough for you? That's really reckless.
There is no reason for you to get involved into this game any further; as others rightly suggested already, let her deal with her stuff and as time goes by see what happens.
If she is really pregnant then somewhere down the line you'll have the chance to check the paternity of the child and act accordingly to what your conscience suggests.
For the time being tho, try and keep your wits about yourself and not let any drama reach onto your family.
Also, buying into her potential game and start sending money wouldn't be the smart thing to do in this situation.
If I was in your shoes I'd much rather concern myself with keeping all of this story as far as possible from my family because that's for sure your responsibility and no one else's, then all the rest is nothing but possibilities and open to debate, but you better put your priorities in order me thinks!
This is the land of the eternal scam, and it's often impossible to distinguish truth from semi-truth to outright fiction.Yep, and that's true not only for the Philippines but for all of Pussy Planet as a whole.
Bless
Truer words have never been spoken, I should know I lived with a Filipina in the UK for 7 years. She had bought her own house outside Manila and I was able to afford to live in the Philippines without worrying about finding work. She wanted to start a family but point blank refused to move back to the Philippines, even when I pointed out how easy it would be for us to afford a very comfortable life there. She was not very well educated, spent her life watching rubbish on TV and worked in a menial but (even for UK standards) very well paid job. She had her own credit cards (all spent to the very edge of her credit limits) attention from guys all the time and complete freedom to do what she wanted. She always had the latest cell phone, new clothes, perfume and jewellery (bought on her credit cards) so why would she want to give all that up to be dependent on me, living back in the Philippines and knowing I would be the one getting attention from girls all the time. If you look at it logically, she would be crazy to go back to the Philippines with me and give up that kind of lifestyle. If I ever settle down again with someone from the Philippines (yes we split up last year) , I would NEVER NEVER bring that girl back to my country. Some guys here will point out that there are successful relationships where the girl has returned to the guy's
(victim's) country of origin but the odds are heavily weighted against success. I think that the odds become more favourable if the age difference is not too great, but that would mean me settling down with some overweight, middle aged Pinay grandmother. YukYuckl yuck and throw up and agree that I woiuld never bring one of those girls to USA. No way. My life is 90% good here. Don't want some nitwit girl to ruin that.
Jon Guoren
04-04-11, 02:19
Thanks a lot bros who helped me out in so much detail and with careful critical thought. I decided to block from facebook at least til I am back from China where I cannot monitor and tell her to write to my monger email if fshe wants or needs to. I will de-initiate contact now. But leaving the monger email allows safe monitoring. Jon G.
For me and that there is no way I am leaving my family over this. ...... Do not want to let t be / let it go. Just yet. So lke stated really need to get this thread out there to get brotherly counsel.You've gotten some good advice, and I'm just going add in that these two statements are completely incompatible. You can't have her and your family at the same time, so you have to choose one, and choosing her is likely to have a very unhappy ending for both of you.
The advice to stay away from the Philippines is well stated. Philippine men can be incredibly violent, the police are very corrupt, and the chances of you getting killed if you get involved with her husband are pretty high. Assuming she is pregnant, the best possible outcome is that she and her husband both convince themselves it's his baby, regardless of whether it is or not. I would suggest you chalk this up as a painful learning experience, break off all contact (including getting a new facebook account if necessary) , and move on.
Chocha's advice, copied below, is excellent. To add some detail: Break off all communication immediately. Using Privacy Settings, block her from your Facebook. Using Ignore List, block her from your Yahoo Messenger. If she knows our cell number in the Phs, change it. I would not tell you to avoid traveling to the Phs. But do not give her any online or telephone hint that you are there. Apparently, you have emotional issues about her. You deserve it. For those finding girls on the internet, my general advice is to check their Facebook for marriage or other entanglements. When in doubt, ask for her CENOMAR (certificate of no marriage) , easily available from the NSO (national statistics office). Never get involved with a married woman, even if she says she is separated or "divorced". There is no divorce in the Phs, and adultery can be prosecuted. Living in the Phs, I will never even pay for a married woman's drink.
It's amazing the trouble a small thing like a penis can cause when inserted in the wrong places. Sammon gave you some good advice. Stay away from the Philippines and do not send money. The 'husband' or whoever he is has asked you to stay away from her. You trespassed on his pussy. What's done is done! Let the girl and her man work out how they want to resolve this. If someone recklessly barebacked your wife multiple times you certainly wouldn't want any favors from the guy. You need to remove yourself from the equation. Leave the girl alone. As you said you have no intention of leaving your wife and family for her. If she parts ways with her husband and requests support for the child then render it only after a paternity test proves it is indeed yours.
On the other hand, it sounds like it is nothing more than a scam. This girl engaged in wanton adultery with you but is too religious to have an abortion? She is still with her husband but intends to give birth to your bastard love child? The husband had a conversation with you on Facebook. She claims he beats her and is a deadbeat and yet they're still together. In fact, they're so close that he was able to see your message to her on Facebook. Anything doesn't sound right here? Don't be surprised if your wife, family or friends are contacted about your infidelity and possible bastard love child. My guess is that you're being set up for some major extortion. If you're keen on keeping your marriage intact the best thing you can do is cease contact and cover your tracks before your rabbit gets boiled. It may sound cruel but it is no more callous than repeatedly bare-backing her and spewing your seed in her hole with reckless abandon know all the while you both were married to other people. Sometimes you must be cruel to be kind. This situation seems to be one of those times. In your mind you want to make it right but you can't.
If she broke her contract with her employer, without a doubt, she is on the hook for large sums of money. The agency is most likely pressing her to repay those monies. If any land or other collateral was used to secure funding for the agency fees the family is probably about to lose it in court. This would be an extremely strong motive for her to resort to desperate measures, e. G. Scamming you and other foreigners she had sex with.
Hairy Wonder
04-04-11, 04:58
Jon Guoren,
I agree with most of the advice others have offered here. However, I would not go as far as to say never go to Philippines. With the number of foreigners traveling in and out of the country every day, it would be very difficult (if not impossible) for the girl, her husband, bf, pimp or anyone else to spot you. I would say to stay away from her home area for a very long time. If she is from Manila, then you should travel through Clark, or Cebu. There are millions of lovely, young Filipinas that will give you the same GFE this one did. Many will also try to pull some sort of scam. But think with your big head, and you should be OK.
HW
Just a general question to all the married guys out there.
Is the risk worth it to go bareback behind your wives back? Firstly to get caught up in a "I'm pregnant" scam? And secondly the chance of giving the love of your life a little surprise that one could bring back from a trip? Second one could cost more than the first in my book.
I am a single guy, no plans to ever marry.
David,
The vibrators are an unfortunate consequence of increased sex tourism to the region. Filipinas are used to achieving orgasm through a hard shag of relatively short duration. Standard Filipino sex is limited to insertion of the penis into the vagina followed by a burst of rapid vigorous pumps leading to a swift climax. Foreplay is minimal to nonexistent. There is no such thing as premature ejaculation in the Philippines. Men who are prone to early pearlies are not stigmatized. In fact, given the living arrangements with extended family members sharing limited space, long bouts of loud lusty fucking is often out of the question. Loving on the run rooster and hen style is optimal.
Sex tourists bring vibrators, pussy licking, porn and pharmaceutically induced erections to the Philippines oblivious to the fact that they're perhaps ruining the natural sexual responsiveness of Filipinas to nothing more than a natural fuck. Soon Filipinas will be demanding to have their pussies licked for half an hour before penetration is permitted like American women. Filipinas are some of the fastest naturally self-lubricating women on the planet and bringing artificial lubes into the bedroom intented for post-menopausal Western women suffering from vaginal dryness interferes with their natural physiology.
Like all forms of tourism, sex tourism eventually has negative impacts on the environment and culture of the area visited. If you've ever had the unfortunate experience of seeing a once secluded and pristine beach ruined by the construction of beach front hotels and the crowds that follow then you'll understand. The only way to practice sustainable mongering is to venture to ever remote corners of the provinces and keep what you find in those areas off the web. This is so correct. I met a cam girl last Saturday and we tried five times to fuck and she could not get wet and it was like I was jacking off with sandpaper. I stopped and we talked, she had been a cam girl for 4 years and now she cannot get wet or cum without a vibrator. I brought some gel and it helped me, but she still could not cum. After two hours of trying. I GAVE UP and I have to say that it was maybe my first time giving up.
Robb
Thanks a lot bros who helped me out in so much detail and with careful critical thought. I decided to block from facebook at least til I am back from China where I cannot monitor and tell her to write to my monger email if fshe wants or needs to. I will de-initiate contact now. But leaving the monger email allows safe monitoring. Jon G.Jon, STOP talking to her at all. I understand you may of fathered a baby, but for your own safety and mental health, you better listen to what everyone here is saying. If she can Google your name and get your home details, number and access to your wife you will really have problems. Life is very cheap in the Philippines and for less then 100 dollars he can have you taken out if he knows you are here or he can do it.
I have a friend who did not listen to any advice and thought while he was here he could get free pussy and not have to go to a bar. Long story short, she claims she had his baby, Googled his name and found his home address and number and called his wife. He is now divorced and basically lost everything, including his two sons.
Take a trip to Angeles and do not tell her you are coming to the Philippines and you will find 10, 000 girls like her or better. Pay the bar fine and have a great time and leave it here when you leave.
Robb
Yep, I, m shallow and selfish, I admit it and thats just the way it is and I, m willing to pay for that privilege.
So, I, m gearing up for my Phills trip in a few months and am wondering about the dia, freebie girls attitudes and demands of meeting parents etc.
I want young tight clean pussy with no baggage of family hanger on'ers.
I don't want to marry but if she is cool and does not drive me nuts, she can hang with me as long as I, m enjoying it. I know they all want the meet my family thing to happen I suppose to justify the fact she has a whitey boyfriend she is fucking. How do you avoid this?
I suppose pay for play pussy is a better way to go. No hazzle.
Jon, STOP talking to her at all. I understand you may of fathered a baby, but for your own safety and mental health, you better listen to what everyone here is saying. If she can Google your name and get your home details, number and access to your wife you will really have problems. Life is very cheap in the Philippines and for less then 100 dollars he can have you taken out if he knows you are here or he can do it.
I have a friend who did not listen to any advice and thought while he was here he could get free pussy and not have to go to a bar. Long story short, she claims she had his baby, Googled his name and found his home address and number and called his wife. He is now divorced and basically lost everything, including his two sons.
Take a trip to Angeles and do not tell her you are coming to the Philippines and you will find 10, 000 girls like her or better. Pay the bar fine and have a great time and leave it here when you leave.
RobbGREAT ADVICE. Set your priorities straight. If this was a set up from the start then she may have even got your details from your wallet. U seem naive and thats sort of normal the first time you do something like this, so I am guessing you didn't do much to protect your personal info. I hope you have a silent number in your home country. Did you have your photo taken with her? Those things should be on top of your mind.
All this crap about FB and you still communicating or giving her access after you are back from China. Do you have rocks in your head? I will assume your wife has no clue about your FB site, but any of her friends or family friends have access to it? If she even writes something stupid on the wall for everyone to see what then? If she posts photos and tag's you? Get your priorities stright at this stage IT IS NOT about the baby, it's all about you protecting your family. Worry about the kid, latter.
As few people pointed out just stay away from the area that she is in the phils. No need to write the country off, most of the buggers there can't even travel to the next suburb let alone town or island. U will be fine but cut all contact
Yep, I, m shallow and selfish, I admit it and thats just the way it is and I, m willing to pay for that privilege.
So, I, m gearing up for my Phills trip in a few months and am wondering about the dia, freebie girls attitudes and demands of meeting parents etc.
I want young tight clean pussy with no baggage of family hanger on'ers.
I don't want to marry but if she is cool and does not drive me nuts, she can hang with me as long as I, m enjoying it. I know they all want the meet my family thing to happen I suppose to justify the fact she has a whitey boyfriend she is fucking. How do you avoid this?
I suppose pay for play pussy is a better way to go. No hazzle. Yep.
If you're going to the Philippines as a sex tourist, just be a sex tourist and enjoy yourself. If you want to try and go the DIA route, at least be honest with them and tell them you're coming to the PI to get laid, not to find a girlfriend. You'll lose a lot of them that way, but the ones that do stick around will be a lot more enjoyable to be with.
Yep.
If you're going to the Philippines as a sex tourist, just be a sex tourist and enjoy yourself. If you want to try and go the DIA route, at least be honest with them and tell them you're coming to the PI to get laid, not to find a girlfriend. You'll lose a lot of them that way, but the ones that do stick around will be a lot more enjoyable to be with. You are so right Tanglin.
I am sick of hearing from DIA girls about guys telling them absolute bullshit stories and then ditching them once they scored. It is no wonder many women are disillusioned and disbelieving about so many guys on DIA.
I now have way more success on DIA and other sites by being very explicit in my profile what I want. It avoids all the tippy-toeing around, and weeds out the girls with hang-ups and serious agendas.
When I get a girl contacting me on my explicit profile on DIA now I just have to establish if she has actually READ and UNDERSTOOD my profile (never assume they have). Once that is out of the way, it is "game-on"
I
Just a general question to all the married guys out there.
Is the risk worth it to go bareback behind your wives back? Firstly to get caught up in a "I'm pregnant" scam? And secondly the chance of giving the love of your life a little surprise that one could bring back from a trip? Second one could cost more than the first in my book.
I am a single guy, no plans to ever marry. It is not just the issues of fathering a kid or exposing yourself to pregnancy scams but you also need to consider the health implications.
In the past 18 months I have made 6 trips to PI and had sex with 47 DIA girls mainly from the Cebu region. Of these 47 girls 5 quite clearly stated in their profile that they were in a relationship. You know the lines they come up with: 'thank you DIA I have finally found him' etc. Two of them are engaged and are in the process of obtaining fiancé visas. Some of these girls I had sex bareback. Some of them I used a condom.
A girl I met on my 3rd trip in April 2010 contacted me 10 days ago telling me that she had chlamydia. In fact it was her fiancé that it was passed on to and he advised her to contact all her previous sexual partners. I had a full health check and sure enough I had chlamydia. There is no way of knowing if this girl passed on the infection to me. Or I to her. Not once did I feel any symptoms.
This has proved an expense and also time consuming for me as I am in the process of contacting as many of these girls as possible and advising them of the situation. I have sent money to most of them for a health screen and anti-biotics.
Personally I would think it wise if any member of this board has ridden bareback in PI specifically with a DIA contact, even if it is their regular gf, to go for a health screen.
FreebieFan
04-05-11, 10:31
You are so right Tanglin.
I am sick of hearing from DIA girls about guys telling them absolute bullshit stories and then ditching them once they scored. It is no wonder many women are disillusioned and disbelieving about so many guys on DIA.
I now have way more success on DIA and other sites by being very explicit in my profile what I want. It avoids all the tippy-toeing around, and weeds out the girls with hang-ups and serious agendas.
When I get a girl contacting me on my explicit profile on DIA now I just have to establish if she has actually READ and UNDERSTOOD my profile (never assume they have). Once that is out of the way, it is "game-on"
IJust today, a sweetie in Taguig was telling me about Richard. She had stayed with him, a "Kano" on and off for past two months. Then all of a sudden he left her and returned to CAlifornia. She called him a bastard and untrustworthy. I asked her whether she was upset that hed been having sex with her and then leaving. She replied " NO, I'm upset because he didn't ask my permission to leave me ". Lifes so interesting the things Filipinas say even more so.
It is not just the issues of fathering a kid or exposing yourself to pregnancy scams but you also need to consider the health implications.
In the past 18 months I have made 6 trips to PI and had sex with 47 DIA girls mainly from the Cebu region. Of these 47 girls 5 quite clearly stated in their profile that they were in a relationship. You know the lines they come up with: 'thank you DIA I have finally found him' etc. Two of them are engaged and are in the process of obtaining fiancé visas. Some of these girls I had sex bareback. Some of them I used a condom.
A girl I met on my 3rd trip in April 2010 contacted me 10 days ago telling me that she had chlamydia. In fact it was her fiancé that it was passed on to and he advised her to contact all her previous sexual partners. I had a full health check and sure enough I had chlamydia. There is no way of knowing if this girl passed on the infection to me. Or I to her. Not once did I feel any symptoms.
This has proved an expense and also time consuming for me as I am in the process of contacting as many of these girls as possible and advising them of the situation. I have sent money to most of them for a health screen and anti-biotics.
Personally I would think it wise if any member of this board has ridden bareback in PI specifically with a DIA contact, even if it is their regular gf, to go for a health screen. Phi girls are ripe with STD especially because they are least bothered to use protection. Working girls usually insist on condoms. But DIA girls I had never bothered and I did not bother either. It is hard to say how many guys these girls slept with or if they have regular sex buddies although many profess they never had sex for a long time.
It is true with some girls who are living with their parents. One girl I had would go home early morning around 6 am every morning and said the family will think she is bad if she stayed with me. As for 6 am it is ok bacause she tells her parents she stayed with her friends. How far it is true I do not know. She may have a kid to take care of. The fact of the matter none ask to use condoms.
I get checked always and never had a problem except from sore throat or a cold I caught from them.
Phi girls only go to a doctor if there is real symptoms.
I have been invited to the weeding of one of my ex girls. Last time I would have slept with her was around 6 mths ago, since I moved on and she found a Filipino guy and is getting married to him. She is insisting that I come 2 the weeding. I would love to see a Filipino wedding but I will pass. Too close to this one and god knows what she has told her hubby about me. Also I have a feeling that being the only foreigner LOL there will be too many questions. Then again all the fresh muff there should be interesting.
Chocha Monger
04-05-11, 17:51
I have been invited to the weeding of one of my ex girls. Last time I would have slept with her was around 6 mths ago, since I moved on and she found a Filipino guy and is getting married to him. She is insisting that I come 2 the weeding. I would love to see a Filipino wedding but I will pass. Too close to this one and god knows what she has told her hubby about me. Also I have a feeling that being the only foreigner LOL there will be too many questions. Then again all the fresh muff there should be interesting.Mc Don, you should attend and bring a nice gift. You'd probably be the guest of honor and have the pick of all the eager beavers in attendance. Just introduce yourself as a naughty friend of the bride. I'm sure she'd be happy to give you referrals. Seems like she hasn't given up on getting you into the family one way or another. LOL
Chocha Monger
04-05-11, 18:00
It is not just the issues of fathering a kid or exposing yourself to pregnancy scams but you also need to consider the health implications.
In the past 18 months I have made 6 trips to PI and had sex with 47 DIA girls mainly from the Cebu region. Of these 47 girls 5 quite clearly stated in their profile that they were in a relationship. You know the lines they come up with: 'thank you DIA I have finally found him' etc. Two of them are engaged and are in the process of obtaining fiancé visas. Some of these girls I had sex bareback. Some of them I used a condom.
A girl I met on my 3rd trip in April 2010 contacted me 10 days ago telling me that she had chlamydia. In fact it was her fiancé that it was passed on to and he advised her to contact all her previous sexual partners. I had a full health check and sure enough I had chlamydia. There is no way of knowing if this girl passed on the infection to me. Or I to her. Not once did I feel any symptoms.
This has proved an expense and also time consuming for me as I am in the process of contacting as many of these girls as possible and advising them of the situation. I have sent money to most of them for a health screen and anti-biotics.
Personally I would think it wise if any member of this board has ridden bareback in PI specifically with a DIA contact, even if it is their regular gf, to go for a health screen. Thanks for sharing. I think it's a good wake up call for everyone. It's very easy for these girls to give the illusion of exclusivity. Bareback and sooner or later you'll get burned. It's commendable that you notified the girls and tried to assist with medical care.
ThatGuy865
04-05-11, 20:08
Be careful. These girls are emotional. React first. Think later.
By Jill B. Tatoy.
Friday, April 1, 2011.
CEBU CITY. A 16-year-old girl had her 76-year-old American boyfriend killed because she was jealous he had another girlfriend and he no longer gave her money.
She had carried out the murder of Leamon Wesley Casteen Jr. at 9 pm Wednesday with the help of four friends. Aged 15, 16, 18 and 27 years old.
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Casteen of South Carolina was found fatally shot in his rented apartment at Sanchez Bldg. On Sanciangko Street, Cebu City.
A security guard rushed to Casteen's apartment upon hearing gunshots and saw the American's visitors. His 16-year-old girlfriend and her four friends. Running away from the apartment in different directions.
Nelson Barquio, the security guard, said he recognized 16-year-old Amy (whose real name Sun. Star Cebu is withholding on account of her being a minor) because she was a frequent visitor of Casteen.
He allowed only three of them to go to the apartment and had the 15- and 16-year-old stay behind.
He did not inspect the knapsack they had with them. The bag contained three guns that were used to kill Casteen.
He found a .45 caliber pistol on the floor of the elevator and Casteen dead with gunshot wounds in his apartment.
Ylanan identified the three suspects from the information given them by the two friends who were held by Barquio.
They were Cyril Jordan Galiste. 18; Aldez Flores. 27; and Amy, Casteen's girlfriend.
Galiste was the gunman and Flores the lookout.
The kids belonged to a group called Tanduay Survivor Clan.
Amy and Casteen met a few weeks ago. Amy had found out Casteen had another girlfriend, aged 17, and got jealous. Amy also got angry at Casteen when he stopped giving her money.
Because of this, she called her group and asked for help. She wanted Casteen dead.
Galiste and Flores allegedly volunteered to kill Casteen on condition that they would get some money after the job was done.
Amy's 16-year-old friend said in an interview with Sun. Star Cebu that she had dissuaded Amy from her plan.
But Amy could not be dissuaded, telling her,"Bahala na uy kay naka-desisyon na ko (Let it be. I have decided)."
The police went to Barili town where Amy was said to have gone to hide, but did not find her there.
The 15- and 16-year-old who were held by the guard were put under the custody of the Department of Social Welfare and Development.
Galiste, the alleged gunman, surrendered Thursday afternoon.
Galiste said that after the killing, they went to Labangon, Cebu City to rest for the night. They proceeded to Toledo City at dawn to hide.
But Galiste said his conscience bothered him and his mother kept calling him to surrender. The police were in their house.
He told his father where he was and Ylanan's team picked him up in Toledo.
Flores and Amy had gone when the police arrived to pick up Galiste.
"Ang kapait aning kasuha kay ang motive pwerteng mabawa. Kining mga bataa gasabot sila without thinking unsay mahitabo inig human or the possible consequences with what they have done (The sad thing about this case, the motive of the killing is shallow. The kids came up with a plan but did not think through the consequence of their action)," responding Cebu City police team leader Chief Inspector George Ylanan told Sun. Star Cebu.
Police recovered at the ground floor of the building the. 45 pistol, two empty shells, magazine of. 45 pistol. 27 live ammunition of an M16 rifle, one bullet of a. 38, a black holster, a t-shirt with blood stains and a green umbrella.
In Casteen's apartment, they found three pieces of deformed slugs and four empty shells from a. 45. (Sun. Star Cebu)
GoodEnough
04-05-11, 23:28
Mc Don, you should attend and bring a nice gift. You'd probably be the guest of honor and have the pick of all the eager beavers in attendance. Just introduce yourself as a naughty friend of the bride. I'm sure she'd be happy to give you referrals. Seems like she hasn't given up on getting you into the family one way or another. LOLI agree with the prior poster. You should go. Weddings in the Philippines are something different and it's worth it for the spectacle alone. Plus, there will be a couple of hundred people and you should be able to hook up reasonably easily. Give the happy couple some money as a gift. It's always appreciated.
GE
Member #4491
04-05-11, 23:37
I picked up a filipina girl at a club in Hong Kong about 5 days before....Many advices and I will add my view. I was in a similar situation that nature solved before I had to do much else than decide my course of action. I think that you can neglect all attempt to predict and interpret who she is and what this is. This is a very simple problem to handle.
If it is your child, I can imagine you do not wish this dead beat fucking with your kids life. So do as you proposed and terminate contact but keep her on that monger email so you can see the development. A few thousands here and there if you see pics of her growing tummy. Stay the fuck away for her neighborhood and do not talk to the dead beat unless it is to explain to the wife beating asshole that you will make sashimi of his Asian ass unless he gets in line and understands that this was two adults that had an affair with an unwanted outcome. You do not owe him shit else than a kick in the teeth unless he stops beating her. In addition you should make it crystal clear to the woman that your income comes from a functioning life "back home". Keep her hopes to receive something for nothing, alive. If your life in COUNTRY is ruined, no "something for nothing" to be expected.
Just wait it out. If the kid looks remotely like you, do a test. If the kid is yours, visit and bring some muscles. That is when it is time to be a man and explain the priorities to these both. I am super protective about any offspring of mine and would rather take the child away than see him / her harmed by some abusive prick.
People on ISG are often keen on warning other about how dangerous the men from here and there are, but I think many times balls is more a matter of what you or anyone else has to loose. I do not endorse unmotivated violence ever, but no need to forget that money means power in many places. Act like a victim, and you will be one for sure. And no, I am not a king behind the keyboard that dream up advices to give. Unordinary situations allowed and forced me to think about, and to test how to react on, various types of psycho-social aggressions.
Blood is way thicker than any bond with a female in my book. If she carry your child, her body is yours. Maybe not literally but fuck if YOU are the one to be owned here. No way! Break free from the western programming of guilt towards women and stop letting the pussy run you. Be a man and be proud without letting your ego running the show. She spread her legs and you did what you are supposed to when you fired away in that clam. Now sit back. Either it is just a bullshit story that you can forget about and forgive her for (to have another go at her sweet clam) , or you are blessed with a child. Win-win if you embrace the notion that change does not necessarily mean loss.
On the STD topic; why don't you invest in tests if you are going bareback? Its fast, easy and a very romantic foreplay. Some chance with the HIV incubation but safer than keeping your fingers crossed.
http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?SearchText=test&Country=&CatId=16&IndexArea=product_en&fsb=y&viewAllCategory=
Good luck!
B
Cool Traveler
04-06-11, 00:12
I agree with the prior poster. You should go. Weddings in the Philippines are something different and it's worth it for the spectacle alone. Plus, there will be a couple of hundred people and you should be able to hook up reasonably easily. Give the happy couple some money as a gift. It's always appreciated.
GEWhen's the wedding. Can I come along? Just the food.
Chocha Monger
04-07-11, 08:40
Phi girls are ripe with STD especially because they are least bothered to use protection. Working girls usually insist on condoms. But DIA girls I had never bothered and I did not bother either. It is hard to say how many guys these girls slept with or if they have regular sex buddies although many profess they never had sex for a long time.
It is true with some girls who are living with their parents. One girl I had would go home early morning around 6 am every morning and said the family will think she is bad if she stayed with me. As for 6 am it is ok bacause she tells her parents she stayed with her friends. How far it is true I do not know. She may have a kid to take care of. The fact of the matter none ask to use condoms.
I get checked always and never had a problem except from sore throat or a cold I caught from them.
Phi girls only go to a doctor if there is real symptoms. So true! These DIA girls are quite reckless and allow themselves to be barebacked by all and sundry on a regular basis. The irony is that many mongers seek them out precisely due to the illusion of getting tight "fresh" pussy for some old fashioned raw dogging. STDs are only one class of diseases that one can catch from these girls. The girls will often say that they don't want to go to the doctor because if they find out that they have a disease they will be depressed. I guess having some chronic STD or other communicable disease slowly destroying their bodies is not depressing as long as they remain ignorant of the fact.
do not talk to the dead beat unless it is to explain to the wife beating asshole that you will make sashimi of his Asian ass unless he gets in line and understands that this was two adults that had an affair with an unwanted outcome.This is a very good way to end up with a bullet in your head. You have no idea how things work in the Philippines.
GoodEnough
04-07-11, 09:59
This is a very good way to end up with a bullet in your head. You have no idea how things work in the Philippines.Actually, he has a very good idea how things work here. I know this, since I know him and I know how successful he's been here.
GE
Your first instinct is the right one. Do not go to the wedding no matter how curious you are. You would only be asking for trouble.
I have been invited to the weeding of one of my ex girls. Last time I would have slept with her was around 6 mths ago, since I moved on and she found a Filipino guy and is getting married to him. She is insisting that I come 2 the weeding. I would love to see a Filipino wedding but I will pass. Too close to this one and god knows what she has told her hubby about me. Also I have a feeling that being the only foreigner LOL there will be too many questions. Then again all the fresh muff there should be interesting.
Member #4491
04-08-11, 00:54
This is a very good way to end up with a bullet in your head. You have no idea how things work in the Philippines.I think we just have different views. I do not want to go into specifics but I believe I do have a good idea about the Philippines in general and of Mindano in specific. I have it in my family so to speak. After running companies here and there over the world, I would say that Pinoys are, in my opinion, actually easier to predict than say in South America or some of the more orthodox Muslim countries. This is where things went from nothing to nasty in a very very short period of time, according to my experiences. However sad this makes me, the Philippines has been ass fucked for 400 years so I would put my money on this people being one of the most submissive and back bending ones in the world. I come to Phil for family and business, but I see the drunk "tourist" slobs behaving like pigs over and over again, and never do I see these reactions that I keep reading warnings about. This does not give anyone a free ticket to behave badly. On the contrary, we should act with pride and respect. But let us not create some fantasy story about how dangerous pinoys are compared to other males around the world. I recommend people to watch the news instead of making up these warning-scenarios, if they need the arousement to make life a bit more exciting.
Loosing face is a factor in the Philippines for sure, but people eat shit on a daily basis from "the masters", without doing anything about it. Just see how many Japanese and Korean assholes behave in Davao year after year. Or why not look at the American guy Mr R. D. Who now impregnated almost 10 girls in the south, with a total of 13 babies, without taking responsibility for them. According to one of his single mothers, the last is a 16 year old daughter of a hot shot politician. This scumbag is still walking after all these years. Living proof, my friends. My ex GFs lola is a politician and her two muscles monkeys have more than two confirmed kills each. 4500 PHP to have the trigger pulled BUT then comes the negotiation with the family. This can be very very costly if the family has some strings to pull.
Do not get me wrong. I fly under the radar. Do not need any heat or politicians to bribe. I had one single death threat over the years in Phil, but this proved to be empty words by a delusional angry man. I am neither violent or in need to impress anyone with toughness, but should a guy use the mother of my baby as pouching bag, he'd better have the Abu Sayyaf to back his coward ass. When push comes to shove, I think any sane man would do this for his children.
If you do not agree, we can just agree to disagree. I am sure Jon has been duly enlightened about at least my view of this.
B
Actually, he has a very good idea how things work here. I know this, since I know him and I know how successful he's been here.
GEIf you say so.
But as a reality check, I ran this by my girlfriend this morning (Cebuano, and her ex-husband is in the Philippine military). Her first comment about the woman was,"She's crazy. She's trying to take advantage of that guy." Then I told her about the husband, the facebook messages, and the guy's desire to handle things mano a mano with the husband. Her comment was,"That's crazy. He'll get killed."
I have been invited to the weeding of one of my ex girls.Just a few months ago I was a groomsman in my ex-girlfriends wedding and it was a hoot! But it was not completely Filipino since her hubby is European and brought along his parents. Was relieved that I did not have to wear a suit and tie as the ceremony was on the beach. Rather was instructed to wear the traditional barong tagalog which was so comfortable! Easily secured three phone numbers including the brides' bombshell sister! Highly recommended!
Just a few months ago I was a groomsman in my ex-girlfriends wedding and it was a hoot! But it was not completely Filipino since her hubby is European and brought along his parents. Was relieved that I did not have to wear a suit and tie as the ceremony was on the beach. Rather was instructed to wear the traditional barong tagalog which was so comfortable! Easily secured three phone numbers including the brides' bombshell sister! Highly recommended!Mattrick's comments are well-made in the context of that particular wedding but I would think carefully about the whole deal if an ex-gf invites you to a pinoy wedding.
I have been to many many weddings in both my wife's province and Manila, mainly as a ninong (VIP) to either her family friends or to my work colleagues and staff weddings. They are fun although they get a tad boring after a while.
To the OP I would suggest that you ask yourself why are you invited?
If everyone else there is pinoy, then you will stick out like a sore thumb and everyone will be asking why are you there and start putting 2 and 2 together? If the groom already knows about your past history with his wife and has approved you attending then it may be OK but it is still a bit weird to me.
The other thing that worries me is that many pinoy guys get very aggro when they get a few beers into them and if they see you moving around hitting on the sexy chicks it might backfire on you.
It is often difficult to work out exactly who belongs to who at these pinoy functions because the women all tend to congregate in their groups and the guys go to their circles drinking and laughing (about anything and nothing).
If you understand the group and the culture and are well-known to them then I say enjoy and go for it.
But if you are an unknown and an outsider to the group, be very careful how you present yourself and above all, be discreet.
Just a few words of advice from a long-time expat ninong.
I think we just have different views. I do not want to go into specifics but I believe I do have a good idea about the Philippines in general and of Mindano in specific. I have it in my family so to speak. After running companies here and there over the world, I would say that Pinoys are, in my opinion, actually easier to predict than say in South America or some of the more orthodox Muslim countries. This is where things went from nothing to nasty in a very very short period of time, according to my experiences. However sad this makes me, the Philippines has been ass fucked for 400 years so I would put my money on this people being one of the most submissive and back bending ones in the world. I come to Phil for family and business, but I see the drunk "tourist" slobs behaving like pigs over and over again, and never do I see these reactions that I keep reading warnings about. This does not give anyone a free ticket to behave badly. On the contrary, we should act with pride and respect. But let us not create some fantasy story about how dangerous pinoys are compared to other males around the world. I recommend people to watch the news instead of making up these warning-scenarios, if they need the arousement to make life a bit more exciting.
Loosing face is a factor in the Philippines for sure, but people eat shit on a daily basis from "the masters", without doing anything about it. Just see how many Japanese and Korean assholes behave in Davao year after year. Or why not look at the American guy Mr R. D. Who now impregnated almost 10 girls in the south, with a total of 13 babies, without taking responsibility for them. According to one of his single mothers, the last is a 16 year old daughter of a hot shot politician. This scumbag is still walking after all these years. Living proof, my friends. My ex GFs lola is a politician and her two muscles monkeys have more than two confirmed kills each. 4500 PHP to have the trigger pulled BUT then comes the negotiation with the family. This can be very very costly if the family has some strings to pull.
Do not get me wrong. I fly under the radar. Do not need any heat or politicians to bribe. I had one single death threat over the years in Phil, but this proved to be empty words by a delusional angry man. I am neither violent or in need to impress anyone with toughness, but should a guy use the mother of my baby as pouching bag, he'd better have the Abu Sayyaf to back his coward ass. When push comes to shove, I think any sane man would do this for his children.
If you do not agree, we can just agree to disagree. I am sure Jon has been duly enlightened about at least my view of this.
BThank you for the very detailed and respectful reply.
It's obvious that my comment "You have no idea how things work in the Philippines" was wrong, and I apologize for making it.
Where I think we still disagree (and a little friendly disagreement can make for an interesting discussion), is whether confronting the husband is a good idea and whether trying to be a part of the (potential) child's life is a good idea. You know firsthand how violent things can get in the Philippines, and from my perspective I don't see much good coming from such a confrontation, but I do see a lot of potential bad. I do appreciate the sentiment that any man who would beat the mother of my children deserves the same or worse, and I also appreciate that it's nice that a guy actually wants to take care of a child he fathered. I too have seen guys father child after child and abandon the mothers and the children. Still, this child, if in fact she's pregnant, is the product of a very brief affair between two married people, both of whom want to keep their own families intact (or, at least, that's what it sounds like). Also, taking the position of woman's husband, I'd think Mr Guoren better be the one to bring the Abu Sayyaf with him if he thinks he can come into my life after fucking my wife. The fact that he got her pregnant doesn't give him any rights, regardless of how big he thinks his balls are. Yes, some Filipino men back down quickly and meekly give in to a shitty situation. But some don't. Personally, I don't think I'd risk my life trying to find out.
What do you think is a "best case" scenario here? Assume for a moment that she really is pregnant and he really is the father. Can you honestly see any good outcome for Mr Guoren, his family, the woman and her family or the child if he tries to stay involved in the child's life?
Fast Buck Artist
04-08-11, 07:28
Loosing face is a factor in the Philippines for sure, but people eat shit on a daily basis from "the masters", without doing anything about it.Yes, in my experience in living in PI the pinoys are relatively peaceful and avoid direct confrontations. Pocket knives (balisong) are commonly carried in the provinces but you are not likely to see one pointed at you unless you threaten the life of the owner. Firearms are expensive and out of reach for the average man.
If you get into an argument over a woman with her ex-husband / ex-boyfriend, happened to me twice, both times the guy swallowed his pride and walked away. They have more to fear from you then you have to fear from them. Money is strength here, it buys muscle and firepower, and you can get more than they can.
Now if you get involved in a dispute over land or assets, thats a threat to be taken seriously. Assasinations over asset ownership are very common.
Firearms are expensive and out of reach for the average man.That may be so, but among criminals they are quite common. Lots of gun incidents in Phils. Often paltik / sumpaks are being used. Checking a few hospital blotters, I was surprised to see very frequent gun use, especially among "bad boys". I had expected some reluctancy to use them, in favor of the knives, screwdrivers etc many pinoys routinely carry.
GoodEnough
04-08-11, 15:29
There was an article in the Inquirer yesterday or the day before, citing a government estimate of more than a million "loose" firearms in the country. This was written in the context of a recently (peacefully) resolved kidnapping by a gang led by a 17 year old. Many, if not most of the firearms, including some fairly heavy weaponry, came originally (at least in Mindanao) from the national government, which armed citizen militias, such as those operated with impunity by the Ampatuans, as a check against the NPA, the Abu Sayyaff, the MILF and other violence-prone gangs. Of course this backfired since the militias promptly turned into private armies for sale to the highest bidder or loyal to a particular clan.
While this isn't good news by any means, given the utter lack of political will displayed by the government to disarm these private armies, it also doesn't mean that the average citizen is armed with a gun, as is often the case in the US, for example. I don't have the statistics, but I would imagine that hand gun deaths as a percentage of all un-natural deaths here are a far smaller percentage than they are in the United States, as are, I imagine, the incidences of armed robbery and non-fatal assaults with guns.
GE
Hairy Wonder
04-08-11, 17:25
I am the father of 2 children by 2 different Filipinas. I support each of them with monthly remittance. I do keep in contact with them in order to make sure the children are being taken care of. However, both relationships ended badly, and I have no intention of ever going near either of these girls, or the areas where they live. When I do travel to the Philippines, I will not be announcing my trip on Facebook, or any other site that I think they might be checking. The brothers of 1 of the girls I know to be quite dangerous. One (a drug addict) tried to extort money from his sister because she was with me. When she refused to give him any money, he beat her in front of her mother and sisters. Of course, this all happened when I was out of the country, and I told her that I would cut his balls off and stuff them down his throat if I ever saw him again. To which she replied,"Don't worry. I can pay to have him killed if I want to." She told me about many killings her family was involved in in the past. I have no reason to doubt what she told me. But this is the reason I will not go near her or her family. Even if I were to pay a security force for protection while I was visiting my child, I tend to think that Filipinos will side with Filipinos, regardless of the money. Anytime I am in a foreign country, I feel that the locals have the upper hand in a conflict. The law will always take the side of a local over a "tourist".
The story posted earlier of the 16 year old gf having her 76 year old bf killed off for only 4500 PHP shows just how easy it can be done. Granted, that is a very large amount of money for most Filipinos. But they know how to get the money if they really want it.
With all this being said, I want to also state that I don't feel the Philippines is any more dangerous than any other country. I would be more worried about walking the streets of New York City, than those of Manila. One never knows when or where they will run into a life threatening situation. You just have to keep aware of your surroundings at all times, and know when to get away (and stay away) from a bad situation.
HW
Hairy Wonder
04-08-11, 17:41
The irony is that many mongers seek them [DIA girls] out precisely due to the illusion of getting tight "fresh" pussy for some old fashioned raw dogging.One DIA contact that I regularly correspond with is very open in our discussions about sex, whether it is me having sex with her or other girls. Once, she asked me if I would like her to find virgins for me to fuck. Of course, I not only said yes, but that I would want her to be involved as well, to make it a 3 some. I figure she could use her experience to teach the virgin how to properly please me. Her response was that she would have to find some 12 or 13 year old girls that the families would allow to fuck me. This shocked me, and I asked her why she would bring such young girls to me. She told me that most Filipinas loose their virginity by the time they are at that age. She even stated that she could not be sure that her own daughter, who will be 12 this year, is still a virgin. I told her that I would not have sex with any girl that could not show proof of being over 18, regardless of how her family felt about it. She stated that it would be almost impossible to find a virgin that was 18 or older, even in the remote provinces.
I will still attempt to fuck many of the DIA girls that have contacted me. I won't assume that they are virgins, or even fresh. But maybe they will be not as used and hardened at the pay for play girls.
HW
Chocha Monger
04-08-11, 20:16
one dia contact that i regularly correspond with is very open in our discussions about sex, whether it is me having sex with her or other girls. once, she asked me if i would like her to find virgins for me to fuck. of course, i not only said yes, but that i would want her to be involved as well, to make it a 3 some. i figure she could use her experience to teach the virgin how to properly please me. her response was that she would have to find some 12 or 13 year old girls that the families would allow to fuck me. this shocked me, and i asked her why she would bring such young girls to me. she told me that most filipinas loose their virginity by the time they are at that age. she even stated that she could not be sure that her own daughter, who will be 12 this year, is still a virgin. i told her that i would not have sex with any girl that could not show proof of being over 18, regardless of how her family felt about it. she stated that it would be almost impossible to find a virgin that was 18 or older, even in the remote provinces.
i will still attempt to fuck many of the dia girls that have contacted me. i won't assume that they are virgins, or even fresh. but maybe they will be not as used and hardened at the pay for play girls.
hwyour girlfriend's story is quite true. i have heard the same thing before. in fact, the term 'cherry puday' in some areas refers to the ****d. one should be especially wary of anyone offering virgins out in the province areas. if you date women in their mid-twenties you'll notice that the locals hardly pay them any mind even when they're stunners. they consider them old, used and past their prime. even the girls themselves will say, 'i am already old' at 24 yrs of age. by the time they're in their late twenties and early thirties it is not unusual to heard friends and family addressing them in with terms of respect we usually reserve for people in their sixties.
as for dia girls being any less hardened than pros, some are pros. others are more hardened and calculating than pros. there are some nice ones getting into the game but you have to catch them before the swarm of mongers descend upon them and fuck their souls out of them. i will usually ask them which bar they work in. sometimes they reply, 'how did you know i work in a bar? '
Member #4491
04-08-11, 23:28
What do you think is a "best case" scenario here? Assume for a moment that she really is pregnant and he really is the father. Can you honestly see any good outcome for Mr Guoren, his family, the woman and her family or the child if he tries to stay involved in the child's life?Hmmmm. I do not value marriage so high, so I am very subjective. For me, the only thing that really matters are my kids. The rest are distant seconds. I will take any shit in the world to keep them happy, and I would walk over anyone to protect them. I would shoot myself without hesitation if it was them or me. I could not live with the knowledge that my child might get the same treatment as this woman. But I might be extremely focused on my kids. For me women come and go. Offspring represents life and future.
If someone fucked my wife, I would not care that much. Just a reason to move on perhaps, but I would most likely not even do that. I am not so jealous as a person nowadays and I do it all the time my self. To have it in ones face is not so comfortable, but it is sex and sex is great, so why deny her that as long as she protects herself.
H
Fast Buck Artist
04-09-11, 16:37
her response was that she would have to find some 12 or 13 year old girls that the families would allow to fuck me. this shocked me, and i asked her why she would bring such young girls to me. she told me that most filipinas loose their virginity by the time they are at that age.are you sure you were chatting with a woman and not a police officer? .
baiting ****s via internet chat is a common trap.
virgins. lots of them here of all ages, personally know 5 virgins in the 22-35 age group, finding one will not be any trouble, the laziest way is probably going to one of the girly bars and ask the mamasan for a "cherry girl", they often have a few in stock.
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