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Member #4491
09-12-11, 23:24
Sometimes I wonder what is worst. All the alcohol, the sex, the lack of sun (yes it is a documented factor for depressions) , the long work hours or the total boredom of repeating the same charade every time? Or the immense drain for someone that actually goes all in emotionally in several customers a month? Or maybe the lack of respect from managers, some of the customers and probably most others in society? Who can tell what factor, or what combination of factors, will do you in?
IMHO drinking every day for a year would make most people suicidal, no matter where they do it. And no, I do not buy that the prostitution itself makes people drink or do drugs. Try the other way around. Not so many jobs allows you to be pissed at work. If you have a certain personality, it is reasonable to at least consider that a person could be attracted to an environment that allows her to stimulate and accommodate this trait.
One should be careful when jumping to conclusions about what cause suicide, addictions, mental disorders, etc. Not directly arguing here about bars themselves being good or bad for a human, but correlation does not imply causation. People often use correlation to prove whatever point they need to make, and Pastafarian Bobby Henderson cleverly pointed out the absurdity in this way of reasoning when addressing the suggestion from some religious groups that the high numbers of disasters, famines and wars in the world is due to the lack of respect and worship towards their deity.
"Henderson presented the argument that global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters are a direct effect of the shrinking numbers of pirates since the 1800s. A chart accompanying the letter (with numbers humorously disordered on the x-axis) shows that as the number of pirates decreased, global temperatures increased."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster
Another interesting link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate
Looks very red up there in the cold and dark vodka paradise.
Barba.
GoodEnough
09-12-11, 23:39
As a long-time member of the wrinkled skin brigade I have no problem acknowledging that younger women find men of their own age more physically appealing than I am. Neither I, nor most of my friends in the brigade are self-delusional. However, there's another factor, besides the money, that makes us, if not attractive, then bearable for the young pinays, and that is kindness. From what I've been told, and in part from what I've observed, many younger pinoys are simply not kind to these ladies, treating them often as sperm receptacles and in many cases sources of income. They are often physically abusive, sexually inept and often completely irresponsible when it comes to paternity. Younger pinays-particularly attractive young women in their 20s-have often been the victims of such abuse, and respond well to being treated with simple kindness in addition of course, to the money.
GE
Hello Fellow Mongers,
I met a strikingly gorgeous, slim and stacked beauty on cherry blossums and have been emailing back and forth. She lives in Zamboanga, Mindinao. I am thinking of flying her to Cebu to meet me (rather than going there). Has anyone bought a ticket for a Pinay on CP? If she flakes or tries to rip off the ticket can I get my money back?
There is that possibility that she is running a scam but she is on facebook and seems to be a legitimate volunteer nurse. I'm willing to risk it because her bikini-clad photos give me an enormous boner. I have to see if she is real.
Thanks for any EXPERIENCED replies and happy horndogging!
Member #4351
09-15-11, 16:04
Hello, Fellow Mongers,
Has anyone bought a ticket for a Pinay on CP? If she flakes or tries to rip off the ticket can I get my money back?Yes and No.
Member #4351
09-15-11, 16:06
Hello, Fellow Mongers,
Has anyone bought a ticket for a Pinay on CP? If she flakes or tries to rip off the ticket can I get my money back?Yes have bought a ticket.
She can`t turn in the ticket for money.
You can't get the money back either unless you pay for a super expensive fare which allows date changes, etc.
Member #4491
09-15-11, 18:36
Hello, Fellow Mongers,
I am thinking of flying her to Cebu to meet me (rather than going there).D Cups, a one way ticket only cost some 1500 PHP, so if she does not show up it is a limited loss. If she comes you need to buy another ticket back, but the few hundred peso you loose on not buy round trip, is hopefully amply compensated together with the rest of the "in natura" payment for her mini vacation to Cebu. I assume she has huge hooters?
B.
Cool Traveler
09-15-11, 18:46
DCup:
If you buy a ticket on Cebu Pacific, using your credit card, in someone else's name, the ticket belongs to her. If you decide to cancel, you will not get a refund. What you will get is a 60 day travel credit under the travelers name. You cannot use that credit.
Basically, if you had bought a ticket, just kiss it goodbye. Absoluely nothing you can do to get anything. Now you need to decide you want Cebu Pacific to have to money or give a travel credit to the girl.
I learnt this the hard way boys!
CT
As a long-time member of the wrinkled skin brigade I have no problem acknowledging that younger women find men of their own age more physically appealing than I am. Neither I, nor most of my friends in the brigade are self-delusional. However, there's another factor, besides the money, that makes us, if not attractive, then bearable for the young pinays, and that is kindness. From what I've been told, and in part from what I've observed, many younger pinoys are simply not kind to these ladies, treating them often as sperm receptacles and in many cases sources of income. They are often physically abusive, sexually inept and often completely irresponsible when it comes to paternity. Younger pinays-particularly attractive young women in their 20s-have often been the victims of such abuse, and respond well to being treated with simple kindness in addition of course, to the money.
GE
Hello, Fellow Mongers,
I met a strikingly gorgeous, slim and stacked beauty on cherry blossums and have been emailing back and forth. She lives in Zamboanga, Mindinao. I am thinking of flying her to Cebu to meet me (rather than going there). Has anyone bought a ticket for a Pinay on CP? If she flakes or tries to rip off the ticket can I get my money back?
There is that possibility that she is running a scam but she is on facebook and seems to be a legitimate volunteer nurse. I'm willing to risk it because her bikini-clad photos give me an enormous boner. I have to see if she is real.
Thanks for any EXPERIENCED replies and happy horndogging!I have bought tickets on CP quite a few times for girls to meet me. All the time girls met took the flight and met me.
One time one girl wanted to stay more time with me and I took her to CP office. Usually there is a long line for them to call your number. I just talked to one supervisor and she took me to another counter and changed.
The ticket. I had to pay small amount of money because the fare has changed. I asked her about cancelling the ticket on CP. If you give 24 hours notice CP will cancel the resrvation. The ticket is valid for one year.
If you want to re-book the flight you need to pay the difference in flight charges if any. The ticket can be turned in for refund with enormous red tape. They require proof of completed payment from the credit card company like statement copy, filled claim form etc. The refund comes in the form charges being credited to the card used to buy the ticket. It takes almost 6 months to get refund.
There is no way the girl can return the ticket and get the money.
For all practical purposes once you buy the ticket you can kiss it goodbye if not used. It is a big hassle to claim refund but can be done. Most CP flights within Phi is well under $100- $150 for round trip, so the loss is not great.
Member #4351
09-16-11, 02:46
Make sure you hear her voice before purchasing a ticket. Make sure its her by seeing her on webcam at the same time you are talking to her.
Chocha Monger
09-16-11, 05:45
When I read Gangles' post I was greatly distressed. Why you may ask? Well, it contains all of the hackneyed stereotypes about Filipino men. He disparagingly used the diminutive term 'wee wee' to convey the widely held belief among Western sex tourists that all Filipino men have a small child-like penis incapable of satisfying Filipina women. In his mind only a foreigner with a 'huge' pink penis can truly fulfill them. As if this myth wasn't enough, he goes further in his emasculation of Filipinos by implying that they are all premature ejaculators and always fail to bring their women to orgasm. Of course, this causes the women to run to foreign white knights for true sexual satisfaction from real men. Filipinas need to have sex with these foreign men to 'blossom' into 'real sex beings. ' Those who don't get fucked by a large Western penis are doomed to remain forever lesser sexual beings never reaching their full potential.
'Filipinos have absolutely no sex education' but thankfully Western sex tourists are there to fuck their women for a few hundred pesos and show them how it's done. How magnanimous of Mr. Gangles to fly all the way to the Philippines with the altruistic aim to give Filipinas the good sex education they need desperately to overcome grinding poverty and the lack of basic needs. I am sure his penis will enlighten them and lift them out of the depths of squalid slums. With one cum-shot he will impart the wisdom of King Solomon. I'm starting to wonder if he was Barack Obama's campaign manager.
All Filipinos are misogynistic and care nothing about their women's opinions. Western sex tourists treat them as equals and listen to their opinions. Yet, for some odd reason the forum is rife with posts about inane chatter from brainless girls and their pointless texts. It's a wonder why Filipinas aren't lining up at the international airport and breaking down hotel room doors to find a foreign man. I guess they haven't heard that sex tourists are eagerly waiting to introduce them to equality with a collar and leash, then a hard fuck up the ass as they bark at the moon followed by the liberating experience of scalding hot [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in the face.
The enigmatic puzzler after all of Mr. Gangles' emphatic assertions seems to be that the wealthy gorgeous Filipinas remain ignorant of the fact that foreign sex tourists are much better mates than Filipinos. For some odd reason these beauties want nothing to do with sex tourists and all of the equality, respect, comfort, love, fun, stability, sensuality and sexuality that they bring. I guess it's only the poor Filipinas from the provinces and urban slums without a chamber pot to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in that know a good man when they see one.
Sounds like CM ate something pretty sour for breakfast.
And he seems to be a bit ignorant of the reality of filipina sex life.
The vast majority of filipinos have absolutely no sex education, which means that they know nothing about how to pleasure a woman. Almost all of the filipinas that I have talked with have never had an orgasm. They know only one sex position, which is starfish. Their experience of sex is that their guy sticks his wee wee in, wiggles around, grunts and hollers. Then pulls out, leaving her lying there, unsatisfied. This then, is what she sees as being the normal sexual experience.
Then she meets and makes love with a western guy. He pays attention to her, he arouses her sexually, he srtokes her in ways and places that she has never imagined before. And before she knows what is happening, she is convulsing uncontrollably in an orgasm. She is stunned, beside herself. And she wants more.
She knows that she will not get it with a pinoy bf, so she keeps coming back to the foreigner (s) for more.
Pretty quickly, she begins to blossom into the real, sexual being, that she is.
And she loves it. She becomes addicted to it.
And she only gets this kind of attention and satisfaction from the foreigner guy.
The experience that he has, to enable her to achieve this wonderful blossoming comes from the many years of experience that he has accumulated.
If she has to make a choice between stability, comfort, travel, fun, sensuality, sexuality, being treated as an equal, whose opinion is respected. As against a well meaning, loving man who is financially unstable, has no respect for her opinions, has no idea as to how to pleasure his woman.
Which does she choose? Which trade off?
Up to you to decide.
G.
Hello, Fellow Mongers,
I met a strikingly gorgeous, slim and stacked beauty on cherry blossums and have been emailing back and forth. She lives in Zamboanga, Mindinao. I am thinking of flying her to Cebu to meet me (rather than going there). Has anyone bought a ticket for a Pinay on CP? If she flakes or tries to rip off the ticket can I get my money back?
There is that possibility that she is running a scam but she is on facebook and seems to be a legitimate volunteer nurse. I'm willing to risk it because her bikini-clad photos give me an enormous boner. I have to see if she is real.
Thanks for any EXPERIENCED replies and happy horndogging!Sounds like the woman I am communicating with. Hmmmmm. Anyway. See her on the webcam. And see more than her face. And hopefully you have communicated for several weeks at least. I did show up one time to meet a gal from Bislig in Davao. And she was not the same woman. So yes there are scammers there. Also get their opinions on living together. Sex before marriage. Etc. Even had one woman refuse sex with me as I was not circumcised. (I was "supot"). Met one gal from Cebu with the most perfect boobs, but the rest of her was a disaster. CP is a good way to meet her. But to change tickets. Etc. PIA. Good luck!
FreebieFan
09-16-11, 06:44
I have bought tickets on CP quite a few times for girls to meet me. All the time girls met took the flight and met me.
One time one girl wanted to stay more time with me and I took her to CP office. Usually there is a long line for them to call your number. I just talked to one supervisor and she took me to another counter and changed.
The ticket. I had to pay small amount of money because the fare has changed. I asked her about cancelling the ticket on CP. If you give 24 hours notice CP will cancel the resrvation. The ticket is valid for one year.
If you want to There is no way the girl can return the ticket and get the money.
For all practical purposes once you buy the ticket you can kiss it goodbye if not used. It is a big hassle to claim refund but can be done. Most CP flights within Phi is well under $100- $150 for round trip, so the loss is not great.I have bougt several tickets for girls before. Simple and easy to emailthem the ticket etc. Last girl I invited to Manila had never been on a plane before so I had to tell her all that happens. She was as excited as hell and it worked out great in terms of her appreciation. She's since made 3 trips courtesy of CP and always everything was fine. Altho she did have to pay for baggage as I gave her lots of slutwear LOL. But all in all fine and easy and way more relaiable than sending her money to buy a ticket.
My goodness,
Looks like I hit a hot button or a raw nerve there.
G
When I read Gangles' post I was greatly distressed. Why you may ask? Well, it contains all of the hackneyed stereotypes about Filipino men. He disparagingly used the diminutive term 'wee wee' to convey the widely held belief among Western sex tourists that all Filipino men have a small child-like penis incapable of satisfying Filipina women. In his mind only a foreigner with a 'huge' pink penis can truly fulfill them. As if this myth wasn't enough, he goes further in his emasculation of Filipinos by implying that they are all premature ejaculators and always fail to bring their women to orgasm. Of course, this causes the women to run to foreign white knights for true sexual satisfaction from real men. Filipinas need to have sex with these foreign men to 'blossom' into 'real sex beings. ' Those who don't get fucked by a large Western penis are doomed to remain forever lesser sexual beings never reaching their full potential.
'Filipinos have absolutely no sex education' but thankfully Western sex tourists are there to fuck their women for a few hundred pesos and show them how it's done. How magnanimous of Mr. Gangles to fly all the way to the Philippines with the altruistic aim to give Filipinas the good sex education they need desperately to overcome grinding poverty and the lack of basic needs. I am sure his penis will enlighten them and lift them out of the depths of squalid slums. With one cum-shot he will impart the wisdom of King Solomon. I'm starting to wonder if he was Barack Obama's campaign manager.
All Filipinos are misogynistic and care nothing about their women's opinions. Western sex tourists treat them as equals and listen to their opinions. Yet, for some odd reason the forum is rife with posts about inane chatter from brainless girls and their pointless texts. It's a wonder why Filipinas aren't lining up at the international airport and breaking down hotel room doors to find a foreign man. I guess they haven't heard that sex tourists are eagerly waiting to introduce them to equality with a collar and leash, then a hard fuck up the ass as they bark at the moon followed by the liberating experience of scalding hot [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in the face.
The enigmatic puzzler after all of Mr. Gangles' emphatic assertions seems to be that the wealthy gorgeous Filipinas remain ignorant of the fact that foreign sex tourists are much better mates than Filipinos. For some odd reason these beauties want nothing to do with sex tourists and all of the equality, respect, comfort, love, fun, stability, sensuality and sexuality that they bring. I guess it's only the poor Filipinas from the provinces and urban slums without a chamber pot to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in that know a good man when they see one.
Member #4351
09-16-11, 16:03
You haven't seen her on webcam? That is rule number one. The scammer from Zamboanga that I met on DIA had a strange voice on the phone, super cute photos, but told me her auntie wouldn't let her go to the internet cafe with webcam facilities. Turned out, obviously to be a LB. I had almost purchased the tickets just from seeing the photos. Webcam chat and make her stand up on cam so you can see her body. In your case, make sure she isnīt wearing one of those famous Philippine bras that is 75% foam rubber. This advice alone is worth the $19. 95 you paid to Jackson.
"mandaue foam" is a popular expression at the moment. Since it has been a tv commercial. If you know the gal can take a joke, most can, just glance at her chest and wonder out loud,"mandaue foam"? This is a Cebu joke. Sorry to state the obvious.
You haven't seen her on webcam? That is rule number one. The scammer from Zamboanga that I met on DIA had a strange voice on the phone, super cute photos, but told me her auntie wouldn't let her go to the internet cafe with webcam facilities. Turned out, obviously to be a LB. I had almost purchased the tickets just from seeing the photos. Webcam chat and make her stand up on cam so you can see her body. In your case, make sure she isnīt wearing one of those famous Philippine bras that is 75% foam rubber. This advice alone is worth the $19. 95 you paid to Jackson.
Thanks, David. We've talked on the phone a few times but I haven't asked if she has a webcam. She is supposedly a "good girl", a nurse, but seems naughty in her photos just the way I like. I almost got fooled by a Russian scammer once before so I am more careful now. Geez I am sucker for a pretty face with big boobs on a tiny frame. Makes me feel like I'm 18 again!I know LB who get girls to talk to you so you think you are talking to them. Her cousin prob chats you and talks to you.
Still for $100 go for it. I never met a see cup girl from the south who will do sexy photos and is a nurse. Sounds like a LB. Remember this is a country where they stop eating, shopping in malls to go a group pray. They do sex but never tell any one
here is my gf as you like them ...
FreebieFan
09-22-11, 07:30
So there I was with a hot girl in a bikini. I knew she wasnt the worlds most intelligent but her body persuaded me that I could forgive. Anyways altho we had chatted before and I'd stated my country of origin many times she's sitting next to me asking me where I'm from.
Me " England "
Her " where "
Me " England, rulers of Manila bay for 6 weeks, ruled half the world once, winners of football world cup 1966, rugby world cup 2003, home of the Queen of England, Lady Diana " Margaret Thatcher, the Beatles, Kendal Mint Cake, Yorkshire pudding etc.
Her " where ".
Her " Is it near California "
Me " Yeah 12 hours away ".
Her " Is it near New York, I once had a bf from New York but he ran off with another girl "
Me " Yeah only 8 hours from New York"
Her. Oh ok. I guess its near Florida then. I once had a bf etc.
Me " Yes its near Florida", Now how do you look without the bikini on.
Lewis And Clark
09-22-11, 12:58
My goodness,
Looks like I hit a hot button or a raw nerve there.
GClear and accurate observations Gangles, all my experiences seem to tally with your observations as well.
Keep up your efforts please, I appreciate your work.
RasSpewtin
09-22-11, 13:23
You haven't seen her on webcam? That is rule number one. The scammer from Zamboanga that I met on DIA had a strange voice on the phone, super cute photos, but told me her auntie wouldn't let her go to the internet cafe with webcam facilities. Turned out, obviously to be a LB. I had almost purchased the tickets just from seeing the photos. Webcam chat and make her stand up on cam so you can see her body. In your case, make sure she isnīt wearing one of those famous Philippine bras that is 75% foam rubber. This advice alone is worth the $19. 95 you paid to Jackson.David_33, you continue to offer very solid advice. Unless you see the girl on cam with clarity, all bets are off. For me I have never sent money until I have met the girl, and sometimes it even extends to meeting her many times so that I can understand her intent. And even then, the money tap is limited and dependant on the circumstance. I have sent money to two girls. The first girl I sent small cash once with limited risk after 6 days together, and that did not work out thus only one money wire. My current money tap right now is one great girl. This is by my own design, to support her and my child.
Hope to share a couple of beers with you one day.
Raz
RasSpewtin
09-22-11, 13:26
I know LB who get girls to talk to you so you think you are talking to them. Her cousin prob chats you and talks to you.
Still for $100 go for it. I never met a see cup girl from the south who will do sexy photos and is a nurse. Sounds like a LB. Remember this is a country where they stop eating, shopping in malls to go a group pray. They do sex but never tell any one.
Here is my gf as you like them.Frenzy, she is a gorgeous gal. Not only guys who love well endowed thin girls would find her attractive. She has a nice smile to put the icing on a really cute package. Well done.
Raz
Member #4351
09-22-11, 16:40
She doesn't have a webcam (and neither do I) so I might just have to risk it and fly there.There are internet cafes with webcams all over the place. If she won't let you see her on webcam and you still send her a ticket or travel there, you will then be a match made in heaven. Have you been reading the forum? Have you read about going to Zamboanga? If you fly there and die, who will fill ISG threads with requests for big boobs?
So there I was with a hot girl in a bikini. I knew she wasnt the worlds most intelligent but her body persuaded me that I could forgive. Anyways altho we had chatted before and I'd stated my country of origin many times she's sitting next to me asking me where I'm from.
Me " England "
Her " where "
Me " England, rulers of Manila bay for 6 weeks, ruled half the world once, winners of football world cup 1966, rugby world cup 2003, home of the Queen of England, Lady Diana " Margaret Thatcher, the Beatles, Kendal Mint Cake, Yorkshire pudding etc.
Her " where ".
Her " Is it near California "
Me " Yeah 12 hours away ".
Her " Is it near New York, I once had a bf from New York but he ran off with another girl "
Me " Yeah only 8 hours from New York"
Her. Oh ok. I guess its near Florida then. I once had a bf etc.
Me " Yes its near Florida", Now how do you look without the bikini on.It's nice to know that there are people out there who don't take offense and have a sense of humor when talking with those who don't know much about geography or other parts of the world and such. Thanks for being patient and understanding.
Carlos3000
09-22-11, 17:08
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1199454]So there I was with a hot girl in a bikini. I knew she wasnt the worlds most intelligent but her body persuaded me that I could forgive. Anyways altho we had chatted before and I'd stated my country of origin many times she's sitting next to me asking me where I'm from.
Me " England "
Her " where "
Me " England, rulers of Manila bay for 6 weeks, ruled half the world once, winners of football world cup 1966, rugby world cup 2003, home of the Queen of England, Lady Diana " Margaret Thatcher, the Beatles, Kendal Mint Cake, Yorkshire pudding etc.
Her " where ".
Her " Is it near California "
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Damn FF, you owe me a new keyboard. You had me chuckling so hard I had tears. Hey did you guys once rule over California, so she technically wasn't far off.
There are internet cafes with webcams all over the place. If she won't let you see her on webcam and you still send her a ticket or travel there, you will then be a match made in heaven. Have you been reading the forum? Have you read about going to Zamboanga? If you fly there and die, who will fill ISG threads with requests for big boobs?I must concur. In the states you can buy a web cam at walmart or circuit city for $20 or less and there are lots of internet cafes there for her use with webcams. It's way cheaper than a plane ticket or two, unless you just want to go there. Also I would not travel to her town just yet, wait till after you have been together for at least a few days or more. Meet in a safe environment like Davao City or Cagayon de Oro or even Cebu City. It's far safer for both and she will most likely be excited to get to travel.
My goodness,
Looks like I hit a hot button or a raw nerve there.
GFor all of you who are miss informed about a Filipinos' size, LOL should go to ACM and check out the sizes of those who be women (shemales or ladyboys) you will be shocked at the sizes. LOL or better yet, since you are likely there, go check them out. LOL You might get embarrassed.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1199454]So there I was with a hot girl in a bikini. I knew she wasnt the worlds most intelligent but her body persuaded me that I could forgive. Anyways altho we had chatted before and I'd stated my country of origin many times she's sitting next to me asking me where I'm from.
Me " England "
Her " where "
Me " England, rulers of Manila bay for 6 weeks, ruled half the world once, winners of football world cup 1966, rugby world cup 2003, home of the Queen of England, Lady Diana " Margaret Thatcher, the Beatles, Kendal Mint Cake, Yorkshire pudding etc.
Her " where ".
Her " Is it near California "
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Damn FF, you owe me a new keyboard. You had me chuckling so hard I had tears. Hey did you guys once rule over California, so she technically wasn't far off.It is same like once I sent a flight ticket to a girl. I told her to print it out and gave all the instructions since it was her first time on a plane.
Few days later while chatting,
She-What time is the flight?
Me- Just read the ticket. It clearly states the time of departure.
She- There are too many times in there. I cannot be bothered.
Me- OK. Your flight leaves at 12. 10 PM.
She- Oh my god- so late at night?
Me- No, in the afternoon.
She- OK. What time should I leave home.
Me- I do not know. Just leave early enough so that you are at the Airport 2 hours before time of departure which is 12. 10 PM.
She- OK.
Same type of conversation happened one more time. Maybe since she is not familiar she is asking questions.
However she showed up without any problems.
Irony Monger
09-22-11, 22:09
So there I was with a hot girl in a bikini. I knew she wasnt the worlds most intelligent but her body persuaded me that I could forgive. Anyways altho we had chatted before and I'd stated my country of origin many times she's sitting next to me asking me where I'm from.
Me " England "
Her " where "
Me " England, rulers of Manila bay for 6 weeks, ruled half the world once, winners of football world cup 1966, rugby world cup 2003, home of the Queen of England, Lady Diana " Margaret Thatcher, the Beatles, Kendal Mint Cake, Yorkshire pudding etc.
Her " where ".
Her " Is it near California "
-Damn FF, you owe me a new keyboard. You had me chuckling so hard I had tears. Hey did you guys once rule over California, so she technically wasn't far off.Ha! You should have heard the conversation I had with Filipina about the difference between New York State and New York City. It was downright painful.
So there I was with a hot girl in a bikini. I knew she wasnt the worlds most intelligent but her body persuaded me that I could forgive. Anyways altho we had chatted before and I'd stated my country of origin many times she's sitting next to me asking me where I'm from.
Me " England "
Her " where "
Me " England, rulers of Manila bay for 6 weeks, ruled half the world once, winners of football world cup 1966, rugby world cup 2003, home of the Queen of England, Lady Diana " Margaret Thatcher, the Beatles, Kendal Mint Cake, Yorkshire pudding etc.
Her " where ".
Her " Is it near California "
Me " Yeah 12 hours away ".
Her " Is it near New York, I once had a bf from New York but he ran off with another girl "
Me " Yeah only 8 hours from New York"
Her. Oh ok. I guess its near Florida then. I once had a bf etc.
Me " Yes its near Florida", Now how do you look without the bikini on.LMAO! Classic!
I doubt she is a ladyboy from her photos in a bikini, Frenzy, but I see your point: the photos could be from anywhere. She doesn't have a webcam (and neither do I) so I might just have to risk it and fly there. I will try to have a back-up in Zamboanga just in case. Staying a safe hotel near the airport based on another's monger's kind advice.
Your GF looks real nice. Thanks for sharing.Be warned many many scammers in phils & in the world in genral. No cam big RED light. Photos mean nothing. Never never meet a new girl in none neutral grounds. By the way maybe you don't follow the news or watch country reports but many kidnapping happen in Zamboanga and in southern phils. In general. Southern part of phils. Can be very dangerous government doesn't really have a control on that part of the country. So unless you are a career commando and a one man lethal weapon with real weapons be careful where you step your foot. Trust me your country won't have leverage to get you out of a bad situation with outlaws. In the past, I had a friend kidnapped in Mexico when his drink was spiked not a happy ending. Happy hunting, don't be the hunted!
Irony Monger
09-23-11, 00:45
There are internet cafes with webcams all over the place. If she won't let you see her on webcam and you still send her a ticket or travel there, you will then be a match made in heaven. Have you been reading the forum? Have you read about going to Zamboanga? If you fly there and die, who will fill ISG threads with requests for big boobs?Agree wholeheartedly with David 33. Run this Google search, then send her the names and addresses of the cafe's:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=internet+cafe+near+zamboanga+city&hl=en&prmd=imvns&resnum=1&bav=on. 2, or. R_gc. R_pw. &biw=1296&bih=864&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl
If she won't visit one of these places and let you see her, cut off contact and move on. This country has millions of cute young things. One troublemaker is not worth the risk.
GoodEnough
09-24-11, 00:23
I want to acknowledge the input I received on this situation in Zambo from you, David, as well as I'm, Lopkx, Johnny, RasSpewtin and of course my buddy Red Kilt. I have decided not to go to Zambo. You guys may have just saved my life. I will go to Cebu or AC instead or maybe spend some more time in Dumaguete. Thanks, guys and Happy Horndogging. If you see some giant boobs, give them a squeeze from me! .I think your decision to avoid Zamboanga was well-advised. However, the flights between Davao and Zambo only cost about Php1, 500 and you could easily fly her over to Davao and meet her here.
I want to acknowledge the input I received on this situation in Zambo from you, David, as well as I'm, Lopkx, Johnny, RasSpewtin and of course my buddy Red Kilt. I have decided not to go to Zambo. You guys may have just saved my life. I will go to Cebu or AC instead or maybe spend some more time in Dumaguete. Thanks, guys and Happy Horndogging. If you see some giant boobs, give them a squeeze from me! .Ping me when you are in Cebu I know a few big boob girls. I know a few girls from zambo who live in Cebu.
Some weeks back I made plans to meet a Filipina nurse. At the last minute she tells me she hurt herself on the stairs and can't walk. It was plausible. I'm clumsy too at times. Even crossed my mind that she may have gotten cold feet.
So anyway that was that. Or so I thought. Then this week she contacts me saying she's bored. Wants to hang out. Fine. She says meet me tonight. So I blow off some stuff and arrange to meet her. Close to the time and she sends me am email saying her professor wants to meet her and can we do it tomorrow.
At this point I was fairly annoyed but didn't say anything about it. Ok no problems see you tomorrow. Mid morning she calls and says she needs to go to Tokyo. Sorry but canceling again. I told her flat out at that point not to worry about it. Ie. Lets just forget it. She emails me apologizing profusely and saying when she gets back she wanted to make it up to me.
It would be quite easy to say something like oh this girls a faker. She's not really in Japan but she has a local mobile phone and knows the area fairly will. For me it's safe to assume she's here.
After her trip to Tokyo she gets back and calls me. See you at 7pm. During the day she called me and reconfirmed. It's on today I think. Started to work out strategies. Called a mate who says lets double date. I didn't tell her that but it would be a surprise.
I meet him and his girl just before 7 and tell them how this girl is unreliableand why don't you two go ahead to the restaurant. Off they go. 7 rolls around. No sign of her. 10 mins leeway I give her. Then call. Where are you? Oh I'm at my friends house in blah blah. Ill be there soon wait for me ok? Thank you. And hangs up. I guess it was about 10 mins away or so.
Didn't wait for her. Told her not to come and went for food with my friend and his girl.
I've read some reports here saying filippinas are notoriously bad with time but this is just plain ridiculous. How do people put up with this shit? On the phone she made it sound like I was being unreasonable even! Fuck me dead!
Screaming Beaver
09-30-11, 03:12
I've read some reports here saying filippinas are notoriously bad with time but this is just plain ridiculous. How do people put up with this shit? On the phone she made it sound like I was being unreasonable even! Fuck me dead!More than likely she was just playing you for a chump. I would not lose any sleep over it.
More than likely she was just playing you for a chump. I would not lose any sleep over it.I emailed her this morning to say I wanted casual sex. See what she says to that. Probably will want me to wait for her at X place. To which I plan to say call me when you get there and Ill be there 2 hours late.
So I met her last night after some discussion about money. She lost get job or something and needed money. Funny. She came early. LOL.
So I met her last night after some discussion about money. She lost get job or something and needed money. Funny. She came early. LOL.Hat,
There is an expression that would apply perfectly to you. Don't tell me about the labor, just show me the baby! If you spend 3 minutes reading you will find a couple of common themes here. Filis are always late, always bring there cousin / sister / mom to meet you and always need money.
So after all of that did you get laid?
FreebieFan
10-03-11, 03:00
Hat,
There is an expression that would apply perfectly to you. Don't tell me about the labor, just show me the baby! If you spend 3 minutes reading you will find a couple of common themes here. Filis are always late, always bring there cousin / sister / mom to meet you and always need money.
So after all of that did you get laid?Maybe we deal with different girls. The subject of being late comes up often. Mine are rarely late, see last trip report.
Once in past 5 years did a girl show up with a family member. These issues can and should be dealt with very early in discussions ("you will be coming alone right honey" ). I've really never had this problem.
Alwayss need money. Well yes, thats a perennial.
Hat,
There is an expression that would apply perfectly to you. Don't tell me about the labor, just show me the baby! If you spend 3 minutes reading you will find a couple of common themes here. Filis are always late, always bring there cousin / sister / mom to meet you and always need money.
So after all of that did you get laid?Yes I did. She turned out pretty decent in the sack. No BJ though.
Before we went in to the hotel she had the gall to ask me for something to eat. Just turned her down flat. LOL. We did go later on for food but I made her pay for hers.
Mr Enternational
10-03-11, 10:28
Before we went in to the hotel she had the gall to ask me for something to eat. Just turned her down flat. LOL. We did go later on for food but I made her pay for hers.Hat you are my kind of cat. (That rhymes. Hat, cat.) Finally a guy with some balls who doesn't feel the need to kiss up and cater to women. I had a girl last month in the Dominican Republic tell me that she wanted me to take her to eat breakfast. I told her with that money that I just gave you you are welcomed to go eat anything you want.
FreebieFan
10-03-11, 10:34
Hat you are my kind of cat. (That rhymes. Hat, cat.) Finally a guy with some balls who doesn't feel the need to kiss up and cater to women. I had a girl last month in the Dominican Republic tell me that she wanted me to take her to eat breakfast. I told her with that money that I just gave you you are welcomed to go eat anything you want.Its a good point. On the rare ocassions when Freebie does / have to pay I always laugh when said girl says "what about taxi money " If its a girl I will never see her again the response is usually:
1. You came here by trike and jeepney so suggest you go home in simliar fashion. I will be happy to provide an additional P5 for that purpose.
2. If you want a taxi why not use the money I just gave you.
3. I will drive you home but it will cost you P200 as my car is new and clean and I actually have 3rd party insurance.
Last line of course goes right over their heads. Like about 32, 000 feet above.
Hat you are my kind of cat. (That rhymes. Hat, cat.) Finally a guy with some balls who doesn't feel the need to kiss up and cater to women. I had a girl last month in the Dominican Republic tell me that she wanted me to take her to eat breakfast. I told her with that money that I just gave you you are welcomed to go eat anything you want.Mate.
If we are ever in the same country the first beers on you then! LOL. Just fucking with ya! I have read a lot of your posts with considerable interest. Thanks for the compliment. Her attitude really sucked. Too bad she wouldn't though.
Cunning Stunt
10-19-11, 10:17
Urban dictionary's definition of being Filipino:).
Filipino.
1. Filipinos are citizens that originate from the Philippines, an archipelago part of the Polynesian / Pacific Islands. The Aboriginals were primarily subjugated by the Spanish and Americans (as well as numerous others) for centuries resulting in a mixed race similar to how modern day Mexicans (Mestizos) are today. They have little in common with the East Asian races such as Chinese, Japanese, or Koreans in terms of language and culture and identify themselves more with American culture. However they can often be found in these countries working as prostitutes or maids / nurses and sending money back to their families not unlike Filipino migrants in America.
2. Filipino-American descendants are often confused of their national heritage. This can be summed up into three groups. The first group is that of the urban / hip-hop cultures. Here they dress like African-American rap / movie stars and attempt to adopt an African-American culture. The second group is those who claim to be Asian. These confused individuals are often the loudest to cry 'Asian Pride, ' when no other Asian groups would do so, in an attempt to force people into thinking that they are Asian. The third group is Homosexuals. The Filipino family has a strong matriarchal leadership; this means that the males are often the weaker of the two sexes. Curiously, a large amount of male Filipinos are gay as evidenced in West Hollywood and the rest of the United States, where Filipino populations are greater.
3. Filipinos love money. They will marry anyone or do anything (including selling their own kids into prostitution) as long as they can get rich. Then they take that money and send it back to their families in their THIRD WORLD COUNTRY. This allows their families to build houses out of bricks instead of mud and sticks. It also helps them support their huge families, as a typical Filipino family will have several children but not necessarily from the same father / mother.
4. Filipinos are devoutly Catholic as evidenced by their celebrations. They do not follow Eastern philosophies or religions (such as Buddhism or Taoism) , instead adhering to what they learned from their Spanish conquerors. The Filipino language also borrows heavily from Spanish and English. For example 'Hello, ' is 'Hola' 'Money' is 'Peso. '
Is that person Mexican? No s / he is Filipino. That's interesting, why do they have Hispanic last names?
So what does s / he do? S / he is a nurse. Oh, I could have guessed that, s / he is Filipino afterall.
Filipino.
This is a response to qiuwp's definition.
1. SOME Filipino's are lazy. (Assuming your american) The morbid obesity in your nation is worse than about 7% of Filipino's being lazy.
2. We don't think ALL foreigners are rich.
3. If you think our language is annoying, listen to that "slang" crap and see what's more annoying.
4. Filipino women marry old people because they actually have feelings for 'them. It's unlikely for there to be more divorces in the Philippines than in the USA.
5. It's not our fault we're poor, blame the government. We don't think we're better than other asian countries. You're just a stereotypical 12 year old whose mom is as stupid as Jar Jar Binks.
6. There are more people dropping out of school in america than in the Philippines. Sure, we have alot of fun, but we put it in the right place and the right time.
7. If UP ain't the one of the best universities in the world, why do alot of koreans / Chinese people come here to study?
8. Yeah, were short, so what?
9. The worlds fastest talker is in the US dumbass.
10. Wannabe's? We copy the shows but we pay the copyrights.
11. Other languages do that too, you know.
12. Yeah, we eat meat and rice alot. At least we're not fatties who stay in their beds all day.
If you don't like our KFC, DON'T EAT THERE! Stupid.
Do us all a favor and LEAVE OUR FUCKING COUNTRY.
Filipino's are fucking awesome
Yes I did. She turned out pretty decent in the sack. No BJ though.
Before we went in to the hotel she had the gall to ask me for something to eat. Just turned her down flat. LOL. We did go later on for food but I made her pay for hers.Food is the one thing I never refuse. If the girl is gives you good service the least you can do is pay for food irrespective what the negotiated rate was.
DriveAllNight
10-19-11, 22:08
Food is the one thing I never refuse. If the girl is gives you good service the least you can do is pay for food irrespective what the negotiated rate was.Food? Sure, but only after the deeds. So many times, I've had a girl whine for food on the way back to the room and then perform poorly after I complied with her request.
She had annoyed me with her lateness and wasted my time on several occasions. If she was more punctual and had a better attitude it wouldn't have been a problem. I think everyone has had at least one like her.
Where is this happening?
I generally like to find a place to eat and then enjoy the deed. Can't remember anyone "whining" for food. The gals usually eat at the bar at some point.
Food? Sure, but only after the deeds. So many times, I've had a girl whine for food on the way back to the room and then perform poorly after I complied with her request.
Where is this happening?
I generally like to find a place to eat and then enjoy the deed. Can't remember anyone "whining" for food. The gals usually eat at the bar at some point.See you and I take the skinny ones who eat once a day. Maybe he like the fat ones who never stop eating, you see them in the bar grazing food all night.
DriveAllNight
10-22-11, 18:11
Where is this happening?
I generally like to find a place to eat and then enjoy the deed. Can't remember anyone "whining" for food. The gals usually eat at the bar at some point.Philippines. Thanks for playing.
Food? Sure, but only after the deeds. So many times, I've had a girl whine for food on the way back to the room and then perform poorly after I complied with her request.Where are you picking up the girls that whine? I have only had one girl whine for food and I should have known beforehand that she was going to be a problem. In general girls that I have properly screened do not ask for food and if we go to eat at my invitation they eat very little.
I would suggest finding out before you BF her if she wants to eat indirectly. That is, say,"Do you want to go straight back to my hotel?" as opposed to,"Are you going to want to eat?" which sounds like an invitation. Girls that insist on eating (or bar-hopping) are likely going to be problems.
DriveAllNight
10-22-11, 19:16
Where are you picking up the girls that whine? I have only had one girl whine for food and I should have known beforehand that she was going to be a problem. In general girls that I have properly screened do not ask for food and if we go to eat at my invitation they eat very little.
I would suggest finding out before you BF her if she wants to eat indirectly. That is, say,"Do you want to go straight back to my hotel?" as opposed to,"Are you going to want to eat?" which sounds like an invitation. Girls that insist on eating (or bar-hopping) are likely going to be problems.If she was whiny beforehand I would never have taken her. Thanks, though.
Hello, Fellow Mongers,
I met a strikingly gorgeous, slim and stacked beauty on cherry blossums and have been emailing back and forth. She lives in Zamboanga, Mindinao. I am thinking of flying her to Cebu to meet me (rather than going there). Has anyone bought a ticket for a Pinay on CP? If she flakes or tries to rip off the ticket can I get my money back?
There is that possibility that she is running a scam but she is on facebook and seems to be a legitimate volunteer nurse. I'm willing to risk it because her bikini-clad photos give me an enormous boner. I have to see if she is real.
Thanks for any EXPERIENCED replies and happy horndogging!FYI. Cops impose curfew in Zamboanga Peninsula
Updated as of 10/25/2011 12:42 PM.
Authorities have imposed a curfew in the entire Zamboanga Peninsula after the military launched air strikes against alleged lawless elements in Payao town.
Senior Superintendent Ruben Cariaga, Zamboanga Peninsula police chief, said the curfew covers the provinces of Zamboanga del Norte, Zamboanga del Sur and Zamboanga Sibugay as well as the cities of Dapitan, Dipolog, Isabela, Pagadian and Zamboanga.
He said people are not allowed on the streets from 10pm to 5am.
The military earlier said it has captured 3 "lawless elements" after conducting air strikes in Payao town, Zamboanga Sibugay.
Western Mindanao Command spokesman Lt. Col. Randy Cabangbang said the 3 captured lawless elements are members of the group of Moro Islamic Liberation Front leader Waning Abdulsalam. The 3 are now in the custody of the local police.
He said 2 soldiers were killed in the latest operation after a firefight with lawless elements in Payao. He said 6 lawless elements were reported killed and 40 others wounded in the military offensive.
Soapy Smith
10-25-11, 11:16
He said 2 soldiers were killed in the latest operation after a firefight with lawless elements in Payao. He said 6 lawless elements were reported killed and 40 others wounded in the military offensive.Sort of reminiscent of Vietnam when our casualty counts counted one dead enemy as representing four or five, since the man might have fathered four or five children if he'd lived. They also rationalized that dead chickens also added to the enemy's body count since a few chickens could make the difference between survival and death among undernourished people.
Why is it difficult for Drive to tell us what city / bar / venue he is referring to? Two people have asked and he ignored one poster and also gave a smartass answer to me. I'm guessing it happened to him only once and he exaggerated a bit.
If she was whiny beforehand I would never have taken her. Thanks, though.
DriveAllNight
10-25-11, 18:37
Why is it difficult for Drive to tell us what city / bar / venue he is referring to? Two people have asked and he ignored one poster and also gave a smartass answer to me. I'm guessing it happened to him only once and he exaggerated a bit.Guess whatever you want. Really, really mull things if you feel like it. You're on moderation, so you've got the time, right?
Club One in Subic, can't remember her name. Pink Panther in Sabang, girl called Renee. Bullets and Arrows, name was Joline or something. Lost in Asia, the infamous Mitch. All of them started moaning about being hungry and wanted to stop and eat before doing the deed, and all of them wanted to just lay on the bed and watch tv once we were back in the room.
I hope this helps with your research project. Let me know if you get the grant.
Hello, brothers.
I am going over to cebu for 3 weeks in a few days. This is my first time to ph.
I have been chatting up a few girls from facebook and will be trying a few of them. They are all regular girls and not prostitutes.
Some girls are very young (around 18 or so) and still are fine do the deed with me. I am trying to be cautious.
Could some bros help me on this issue. What is the age of consent in ph. Do I need to look out for any I'd to establish age.
Thanks a lot in advance to all those bros out there.
Radical Guy
11-01-11, 20:31
Hello, brothers.
I am going over to cebu for 3 weeks in a few days. This is my first time to ph.
I have been chatting up a few girls from facebook and will be trying a few of them. They are all regular girls and not prostitutes.
Some girls are very young (around 18 or so) and still are fine do the deed with me. I am trying to be cautious.
Could some bros help me on this issue. What is the age of consent in ph. Do I need to look out for any I'd to establish age.
Thanks a lot in advance to all those bros out there.In the Philippines, it depends on whether money changes hands or not. But that's not the only issue. If you are from the US, or many other western countries, the age of consent in a foreign country is immaterial.
In the US, for example, under the PROTECT Act, if you go to a foreign country and have sex with someone under 18, you can be prosecuted in the US in federal court. Absolutely, DO NOT take ANY chances. Check out their identification, and even if it says they are over 18, be cautious anyway. The fact that they showed you a fake ID would be NO DEFENSE to a criminal charge.
RG
The PROTECT act does not prohibit sex with persons under 18. It prohibits commercial Sex with persons under 18, and any sex with persons under 16 if the age difference is at least four years, and any sex with anyone under 12 (yuck) regardless of the age difference. So, that last part would only apply to people age 16-20 anyway, because if they were 20 then the under 16 with 4 year difference part would kick in.
hello, brothers.
i am going over to cebu for 3 weeks in a few days. this is my first time to ph.
i have been chatting up a few girls from facebook and will be trying a few of them. they are all regular girls and not prostitutes.
some girls are very young (around 18 or so) and still are fine do the deed with me. i am trying to be cautious.
could some bros help me on this issue. what is the age of consent in ph. do i need to look out for any i'd to establish age.
thanks a lot in advance to all those bros out there.there are many scammers on facebook. as you know facebook does not really check the date of birth. many girls what you say are 18 could be **** or ladyboys or older ladies. there are many **** girls trying.
to meet you up with their friends for a free meal. beware that in phi they can get fake i. d easily. one girl i knew had two i. d. one passport saying she is 24 because she used that to work in dubai for a year. another school i. the saying she was 18.
for foreigners age of consent is 18. do not worry about individual country's age of consent.
there are many scams where they have demanded money, otherwise threatened to call the police. you will not hear of those who paid money to the girl's party or the police. you only hear of the arrests made if no money was paid in the newspapers.
phi is a very poor country. a girl in the slums would do anything for money. she knows if she does not agree for sex you will not be interested in meeting her.
having said all this there are many legal 18+ girls looking to meet foreigners and make side money. money is the main factor but sometimes they are also looking for steady sponsor or marriage.
The PROTECT act does not prohibit sex with persons under 18. It prohibits commercial Sex with persons under 18, and any sex with persons under 16 if the age difference is at least four years, and any sex with anyone under 12 (yuck) regardless of the age difference. So, that last part would only apply to people age 16-20 anyway, because if they were 20 then the under 16 with 4 year difference part would kick in.A US citizen cannot have commercial sex (all definitions including "it") with anyone under the age of 18. Fact / period / absolute.
Commercial is definited as money or any other financial method given either today or promised in the future.
Not sure if dinner is included in the financial definition.
The 16 year old, 4 year difference is the local rules in some of the states for the age of consent; this is not related to foreign sex travel.
"a us citizen cannot have commercial sex (all definitions including "it") with anyone under the age of 18. fact / period / absolute."
that is exactly what i said.
"the 16 year old. 4 year difference is the local rules in some of the states for the age of consent; this is not related to foreign sex travel."
you are incorrect. go read the law. it's true that various us states have age difference as part of their consent / statutory [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) laws, but it's not always 16 and not always 4.
Furthermore it's untrue there is no defense. Taken directly from the final bill passed by the House and Senate:
"(g) DEFENSE. In a prosecution under this section based on illicit sexual conduct as defined in subsection (f) 2), it is a defense, which the defendant must establish by a preponderance of the evidence, that the defendant reasonably believed that the person with whom the defendant engaged in the commercial sex act had attained the age of 18 years."
I would not want to be in the position of establishing this preponderance, however. Having a picture of the person in question AND a photocopy of their ID might help you.
you are incorrect. go read the law. it's true that various us states have age difference as part of their consent / statutory [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) laws, but it's not always 16 and not always 4.lol! you are incorrect when you said i was incorrect. yes, i did read the list of rules.
i wrote "some" of the states has that 16/4 law. i just didn't want to list all the different state laws with the corresponding numbers.
it was just a clarification; you stated that 16/4 rule in the same sentence when discussing commercial sex which referred to the protect act.
ok, you did not give incorrect info (if you read that sentence very carefully) ; i re-read that sentence. it seems that we're both not english majors.
The 16/4 rule is part of the PROTECT Act, which is why I mentioned it in the same sentence.
Thanks a lot bros for your inputs on age of consent.
I think its best to hook up with 20+ yr olds to be safe.
I am an indian national and working in Hong kong for the past 3 years. I am not aware of any protect act from my country though.
Thanks again for all your inputs.
Starchild2012
11-04-11, 11:26
Hello, brothers.
I am going over to cebu for 3 weeks in a few days. This is my first time to ph.
I have been chatting up a few girls from facebook and will be trying a few of them. They are all regular girls and not prostitutes.
Some girls are very young (around 18 or so) and still are fine do the deed with me. I am trying to be cautious.
Could some bros help me on this issue. What is the age of consent in ph. Do I need to look out for any I'd to establish age.
Thanks a lot in advance to all those bros out there.I'm Indian too. Not to run over on your excitement. Just to caution you. Are you sure they are 18 or so and are regular girls. Have you seen them on cam atleast once and talked to them. Man, the number of scams have increased ten fold online in PH dating sites. I just wrote a post in chat room thread about it just now. If you have time, please read it. I have seen this myself, lately Indians are getting lot of attention in dating sites from super bombshell 18 yr olds. Nothing personal bro. But in my five years dating in PH. I have never seen this. Yes you can get laid easily with hot young women. But its once in a while and it takes time to work it out. If you think its happening too fast and too easy in these times. Please be careful. I'm not being paranoid. Just the other week, you might have read the french guy going bersek in the airport for his gf not showing up.
Please check. Have you sent any money to them for mobile load or for food or anything. And are they going to meet you at the airport. Have a safe trip. Good luck
I'm Indian too. Not to run over on your excitement. Just to caution you. Are you sure they are 18 or so and are regular girls. Have you seen them on cam atleast once and talked to them. Man, the number of scams have increased ten fold online in PH dating sites. I just wrote a post in chat room thread about it just now. If you have time, please read it. I have seen this myself, lately Indians are getting lot of attention in dating sites from super bombshell 18 yr olds. Nothing personal bro. But in my five years dating in PH. I have never seen this. Yes you can get laid easily with hot young women. But its once in a while and it takes time to work it out. If you think its happening too fast and too easy in these times. Please be careful. I'm not being paranoid. Just the other week, you might have read the french guy going bersek in the airport for his gf not showing up.
Please check. Have you sent any money to them for mobile load or for food or anything. And are they going to meet you at the airport. Have a safe trip. Good luckBro.
Thanks a lot for your advise. I really appreciate the help and concern.
I never send money to any one I haven't met. A few girls who asked for money and I got the idea and reduced my communication with them. I haven't spared any cash of any sort.
I think most of the girls are genuine. I have been working up for the past 4 months in preparation of this trip. Fb chatting, web cam 2 cam chats etc. Having said that, its true that I cannot be sure that all the contacts are 100% genuine or if they are all going to lay with me. Let me try.
Thanks again for all your inputs.
a us citizen cannot have commercial sex (all definitions including "it") with anyone under the age of 18. fact / period / absolute.
commercial is definited as money or any other financial method given either today or promised in the future.
not sure if dinner is included in the financial definition.
the 16 year old. 4 year difference is the local rules in some of the states for the age of consent; this is not related to foreign sex travel.us citizen cannot have commercial or social sex with anyone under 18 years of age worldwide. only exception is if the boy is under 18 as well. in u. s states have different age of consent. this does not apply to foreign travel and enjoyment. paying for sex is another crime. prostitution is illegal everywhere in u. s except some counties in navada.
you need to worry more from the authorities in those countries, in this case philippines. police and law authorities do not have any compassion when sex is involved especially for foreign tourists. only thing better is some cases you can bribe your way out. u. s authorities are unlikely to take any action unless charges are filed and the individual asks the embassy for help. so far what i see in the newspapers is only child abusers are being prosecuted. child means 12-13 year olds.
as for dia contacts are concerned almost all are looking for steady relationship hoping for exit out of their poor living. small minority are scammers looking to make money by promising sex online. after you meet reality maybe different. i have met quite a few contacts from dia and all of them had sex with me. yes, i always give some presents and money. nobody has threatened or asked for more money at that time. yes, money demands come later.
and depending on if i am extremely happy with the girl and plan to see her in future send small amounts of money. all of them have repaid in good sex and company. phi is a poor country so with small amount of american money can really make the girl happy.
if you are chatting with a girl who says she is 18, there is no way to tell if she really is. even if she produces a i. the saying she is 18 cannot believe. there are many ways to get a fake i. d including school i. the, birth certificate etc. on production of a birth certificate school will give them a i. d without checking. best thing to do is to grill the girl. there are many instances the girls i chatted with admit they are 14, 15, 16 after grilling. they also said age is not a problem for meeting and sex. all **** girls admit that they are very poor and they want to help their family. burden falls on you irrespective of what they say.
do not even bother chatting with them.
Member #4491
11-04-11, 23:31
Some girls are very young (around 18 or so) and still are fine do the deed with me.Don't hold your breath. What they say to you on the chat and what they do in real life has little correlation many times. And as Starchild writes, explicit chatting about sex is most often just the foreplay to you logging onto Xoom or WesternUnion. The chatting can be fun and a good way to suck the lollipop even before you take of the wrapper, but do not only focus on the ones that chat about sex, unless you wish to end up with scammers or hard headed hoes."Normal" girls will not start to chat about sex, and these are the ones you many times want to see. They know why you are there, so no need to search for assurances. The virgin investigation can however be good to do so you do not end up investing a lot of time in a girl that wants you to marry her before she spreads her legs for you.
B.
I earn money by gaming on line need some advice. :
Can proxy sites be accessed from the Philippines does any one know please? Asked the GF to try for me, but it has been a pain trying to explain to her how to do it thanks.
Member #4491
11-19-11, 22:31
i earn money by gaming on line need some advice. :
can proxy sites be accessed from the philippines does any one know please? asked the gf to try for me, but it has been a pain trying to explain to her how to do it thanks.yes, i used proxies several times from any of the free proy site-lists. you can also try tor if speed is not an issue. would not use tor for anything that involves downloading or uploading a lot of bytes either. google tor if you are unfamiliar with it. ton's of info to be found.
imagine a land where, stepping off the plane, you undergo a miraculous transformation.
suddenly, you are twenty years younger and twenty pounds lighter. your jokes have never been funnier.
your charm never so evident. you are gwapo and desired by countless nubile young maidens.
your sexual prowess quotient rises exponentially. ah, if such a paradise could exist!now that should be the philipino tourism advertising speel! because it is true.
FreebieFan
02-15-12, 06:50
We love the girls of the Phils no doubt. We appreciate their bodies (rarely their minds) and the following story is a case in point.
Said young lady is 19 and was memorable to me for the fact that she gave me one of the best blows I've ever had, had nice big pillowy tits, and went home as soon as I told her our meeting / s were over.
She sadly told me the other day she had found another lover so couldn't see me again. Which is exactly what my plan had been all along. Two meetings and no more interest in her.
Anyways I said a Hi to her on YM last weekend. She tells me she has a problem and can I help. I told her as long as it doesn't involve money I'm fine to help.
Tells me her 2 year old son had drunk some paint thinner and what should she do.
I asked her when this happened.
She said previous night.
I asked her what she had done about taking her kid to the hospital immediately.
She says (and here's where common sense isn't so common)" oh I sent a text to my auntie in Japan last night and I'm waiting for her to reply to me about what I should do."
I advised hat paint thinner is full of chemicals and its probably killing her sons insides right now.
She replies " he looks ok so maybe he is ok "
I sent her a link to a site that says "drinking paint killer can kill you " and suggested said boy is taken to hospital immediately.
Another very strange chat!
Member #4491
02-15-12, 20:30
My God, how thirsty that poor child must have been.
Hi.
Need help from senior pinay experienced mongers.
I have been into p4p business all these while and had my moments of joy many times. Recently got a chance for exploring the possibilities of chatting with pinay girls and making them friends and then taking them to bed. Was successful on few occasions and had great times with 2-3 girls over the past one month or so. With each girl, I was astonished to find them they were very sexy and hot. In no times, their pussies were dripping wet and even on multiple shots, they were ready as soon as I was even though they said no initially. After initial use of condom, each of them had no hesitation if I did the shot without condom. I used my brain and avoided but for few seconds I was inside their pukies naked. Ease note all these girls have normal jobs and they did come to me either for pleasure and / or money or both but they are not into 100% sex business.
This makes me wonder as why pinay ladies want to fuck without condom even with relatively strange man? If they did to me, they may be doing the same to other man also.
Is this a culture and habit issue? I asked girls as to are they not afraid of being pregnant? And they told me that they are on pills! I was surprised and thought OMG, these ladies must be having a very active sex life. How many before me?
You guys have have tremendous pinay experience, can any of you throw some light? I find pinay ladies one of the best sex partners in the world. And would love to keep doing them as much as I can.
Rgds.
Cheers and take care.
Marad Raj
Freebie sounds like a scam. Mind you tanduay rhum is on par with paint thinners. They have free hospitals in Cebu so if the kid was dying they can get the kid in hospital.
Raj I only met 1 pinay on the pill but many more who want a foreign baby. Your name sounds Indian and I know the girls here like any foriegn men so enjoy and if you do have some girl say it your baby Just get the DNA test. Only bar girls I find want you to use a condom. Even girls with a job will stop and have your baby hoping you might marry them. I had a vasectomy and I have girls telling people their white kid is mine but they know I live here and know the laws and never ask for money. They also know the kid is not mine but they live the fantasy. I even have kids named after me.
I even have kids named after me.Little Frenzys? Heheh enjoy.
Hi.
Need help from senior pinay experienced mongers.
I have been into p4p business all these while and had my moments of joy many times. Recently got a chance for exploring the possibilities of chatting with pinay girls and making them friends and then taking them to bed. Was successful on few occasions and had great times with 2-3 girls over the past one month or so. With each girl, I was astonished to find them they were very sexy and hot. In no times, their pussies were dripping wet and even on multiple shots, they were ready as soon as I was even though they said no initially. After initial use of condom, each of them had no hesitation if I did the shot without condom. I used my brain and avoided but for few seconds I was inside their pukies naked. Ease note all these girls have normal jobs and they did come to me either for pleasure and / or money or both but they are not into 100% sex business.
This makes me wonder as why pinay ladies want to fuck without condom even with relatively strange man? If they did to me, they may be doing the same to other man also.
Is this a culture and habit issue? I asked girls as to are they not afraid of being pregnant? And they told me that they are on pills! I was surprised and thought OMG, these ladies must be having a very active sex life. How many before me?
You guys have have tremendous pinay experience, can any of you throw some light? I find pinay ladies one of the best sex partners in the world. And would love to keep doing them as much as I can.
Rgds.
Cheers and take care.
Marad RajIMHO Phi girls are very good in sex. Multiple shots are the norm if staying together. Even non P4P are the same way. Do not know if their genes are that way. Judging by the number of children they have I would think.
They are sexually very active. My one GF wanted 12 times in a 24 hour timeline although I could not come all the time but she did thanks to Viagra. She would even wake me up in the middle of the night. After one week.
With her I thought I was almost dead. Did not look at a girl for couple of months. All girls never said no anytime I made my move. Yes, sometimes I had to use the lubricant.
Basically the church taught them not to use any birth control in the begining. Nowadays they are least bothered if they have a child out of wedlock. Most young girls want to have a child ASAP to complete their life so it seems.
Family is very supportive and practically loves all children and will share love and food. Never heard any girls complaining that their parents are angry for her having a child before marriage.
Chatting girls try to get you to father child in the hopes of getting you hooked on her either for long term relationship or financial support. No, the girls are generally not on the pill. As far as they are concerned they live it.
To chance rather than spending money on the pill. I usually put them on the pill.
Contrary to common belief they do not have a active sex life if they are staying in small villages. Major problem is no privacy even if they get a boy. It is very common to find girls who have not had sex for a year.
Cunning Stunt
02-21-12, 01:11
My God, how thirsty that poor child must have been.Yeah, bloody fool! Everyone knows that paint thinner is best mixed with cola.
I am not really pinay experienced, but have fucked a few. First of all, aren't pinays catholic? Their church is very much against birth control and use of condoms. Condoms are unnatural thing to them. Thats why many have 1st time sex without protection. I am not religious but they are sort of right, condoms were not invented a long time ago and yes they are not a natural thing. I managed to use condom the 1st time I had sex with my pinay ex-gf the 1st night. Then already next morning she came on top without condom saying "don't come inside" and after that it was like "you can use it later" etc. Not like western chicks who demand condom always. Many pinays also want to get pregnant or just want to see if they get pregnant and think afterwards, maybe they are not most bright people.
Need help from senior pinay experienced mongers.
I have been into p4p business all these while and had my moments of joy many times. Recently got a chance for exploring the possibilities of chatting with pinay girls and making them friends and then taking them to bed. Was successful on few occasions and had great times with 2-3 girls over the past one month or so. With each girl, I was astonished to find them they were very sexy and hot. In no times, their pussies were dripping wet and even on multiple shots, they were ready as soon as I was even though they said no initially. After initial use of condom, each of them had no hesitation if I did the shot without condom. I used my brain and avoided but for few seconds I was inside their pukies naked. Ease note all these girls have normal jobs and they did come to me either for pleasure and / or money or both but they are not into 100% sex business.
This makes me wonder as why pinay ladies want to fuck without condom even with relatively strange man? If they did to me, they may be doing the same to other man also.
It is natural for females of any species to try to get pregnant whenver they can. It is part of the survival ethic in nature.
Female humans are basically no different.
We spoke before about culture imposing layers on the onion of human nature.
Western societies impose many layers on the female's onion, disguising the normal nature of the woman, convincing her that she should not have children until she has done whatever she wants to do. Same with many asian societies. The contraceptive pill exacerbates this condition because it convinces the woman's body that she is pregnant, to stop ovulation.
However, there are other societies where pregnancy is considered to be the desirable state for any woman, the only constraint being that her children should be old enough to walk before she falls pregnant again. (This is mostly in nomadic societies). I had a very large surveying operation in a primitive country that I was managing almost collapse because the head men of the villages were getting my guys to service as many females as possible, to firstly get them pregnant, and secondly to expand the gene pool. Literally, my guys were fucked to exhaustion. Other women from the same country would hunt down my guys to fuck them to get pregnant.
That is human nature. This is normal.
And pinays are not so far removed from that.
G
Fascinating, G. This is cultural anthropology at its best! Hey, do you see the concept of the dowry applied anywhere in your travels? It used to be, even in the USA, that a woman would have to pay a man to marry her. It is only fair. Look what a man has to put up with a woman (especially an AW) and he gets so little in return (pussy notwithstanding). I'm in favor of bringing the dowry back but the feminists will probably lynch me.
It is natural for females of any species to try to get pregnant whenver they can. It is part of the survival ethic in nature.
Female humans are basically no different.
We spoke before about culture imposing layers on the onion of human nature.
Western societies impose many layers on the female's onion, disguising the normal nature of the woman, convincing her that she should not have children until she has done whatever she wants to do. Same with many asian societies. The contraceptive pill exacerbates this condition because it convinces the woman's body that she is pregnant, to stop ovulation.
However, there are other societies where pregnancy is considered to be the desirable state for any woman, the only constraint being that her children should be old enough to walk before she falls pregnant again. (This is mostly in nomadic societies). I had a very large surveying operation in a primitive country that I was managing almost collapse because the head men of the villages were getting my guys to service as many females as possible, to firstly get them pregnant, and secondly to expand the gene pool. Literally, my guys were fucked to exhaustion. Other women from the same country would hunt down my guys to fuck them to get pregnant.
That is human nature. This is normal.
And pinays are not so far removed from that.
G
Hi folks, many many thanks for your time and interest in the topic.
Few things first.
- Agree with an experience of a gentlemen that pinay ladies are very active in sex and would not mind as many shots as possible by a man. I have the similar experience.
- They are very good sex partner and will do what ever you want. They meet man's sexual fantacy.
What some of you have written may be true if this had happened in Philippines. But my experience is in the foreign country (Bahrain) where both of us are guests and are similarly afraid to be caught by the authorities even when we are making love. So I can not understand how come the ladies are ready to pumped without condom, agree that religion have taught them not to use any contraceptives. Secondly noted the point that they may be trying to frame me in case they get pregnant. I will be more careful next time. My friend who also started similar adventure along with have same experience with pinay girls. As I said I had 4 different girls and had almost similar encounters. Multiple shots, pussy fully wet every time, pumping as much as you can, don't use condom, remove before you come and finally why don't you come inside.
The reply from the members have been fascinating and and eye opening. Also I agree that there is something in their gins and food which make them hot all the time and they never get tired of sex! Good for mongers like us.
Cheers and take care
Fast Buck Artist
02-24-12, 13:20
Tells me her 2 year old son had drunk some paint thinner and what should she do.
I asked her what she had done about taking her kid to the hospital immediately.A philippine public hospital is not a venue you want to visit for any reason, you'll walk out with more problems you walked in with, if you walk out at all. Child mortality in horrifying in "free" clinics, they are very short on supplies the staff are trainee students working for free, and they have a long queue of sick patients and antibiotic-resistant lethal germs. You get exactly what you pay for.
Paint thinner contains methanol which is a deadly poison. Even a few spoons of the stuff will be toxic for a 2 year old. For ingested poisons generic treatment is activated charcoal which coats the intestine and prevents absorption of poison into the body. In acute poisoning cases it's pumped direct into the stomach through a tube.
Hi Guys, I know what I am about to ask has been covered in the forum before but I would appreciate any experienced input on this.
I'm contemplating flying a girl I met on DIA (profile no longer active) from Zamboanga to Cebu, We have been emailing for months. The bikini photos she sends me make me want to whack off they are so beautiful.
The flight is about 3000P RT on Cebu Pacific, no problem. But she want me to send her taxi and luggage money, I said no, sweetie, I'll buy you whatever you need when we meet but I can't send you any money now. I'm awaiting her reply. If she wasn't so damn beautiful I'd just forget the whole thing and go to Plan B.
The photos could be fake and this whole thing could be a scam but damn she's emailed me a lot wanting me to go to Zambo. She doen't have a webcam and is not working like so many of the young lasses. She's 28. An unemployed nurse. I have called her on her cell phone but it is expensive. She sounds nice, tho.
Any tips appreciated.
Hi Guys, I know what I am about to ask has been covered in the forum before but I would appreciate any experienced input on this.
I'm contemplating flying a girl I met on DIA (profile no longer active) from Zamboanga to Cebu, We have been emailing for months. The bikini photos she sends me make me want to whack off they are so beautiful.
The flight is about 3000P RT on Cebu Pacific, no problem. But she want me to send her taxi and luggage money, I said no, sweetie, I'll buy you whatever you need when we meet but I can't send you any money now. I'm awaiting her reply. If she wasn't so damn beautiful I'd just forget the whole thing and go to Plan B.
The photos could be fake and this whole thing could be a scam but damn she's emailed me a lot wanting me to go to Zambo. She doen't have a webcam and is not working like so many of the young lasses. She's 28. An unemployed nurse. I have called her on her cell phone but it is expensive. She sounds nice, tho.
Any tips appreciated.Take it from someone that was scamed before I had women send me pictures only to find out it is a shemale. I had women say they are virgins only to call them and have her husband answer the phone. If she is for real and realy wants to see you she will go to the internet cafey rent a cam so you can see her it is only a few pesos.
Fast Buck Artist
02-24-12, 17:19
Hi Guys, I know what I am about to ask has been covered in the forum before but I would appreciate any experienced input on this.
I'm contemplating flying a girl I met on DIA (profile no longer active) from Zamboanga to Cebu, We have been emailing for months. The bikini photos she sends me make me want to whack off they are so beautiful.Never let your penis make airline reservation decisions! Haha.
I am 90% certain you are talking to a gay man who is trying to scam you.
- sexy bikini photos are a small red flag.
- location zamboanga is another small red flag, the scammers usually pick some remote area like sultan kudarat or koronadal as their "location"
- the big red flag is refusal to show webcam. If she's got money for a bikini she should have the 50 pesos to rent a webcam for an hour in a netcafe
Member #4351
02-24-12, 17:24
But she want me to send her taxi and luggage money, I said no, sweetie, I'll buy you whatever you need when we meet but I can't send you any money now.She can't turn the ticket in for money. Where do you expect her to get taxi and luggage money? After all this time on the forum you still don't understand that a normal girl from the provinces probably has no money at all? Should she borrow money on the off chance that YOU aren't a dirt bag degenerate piece of **** who will stand her up? If you are trusting her with a ticket, dig up the other $20 dollars for her 1000 pesos travel expenses. Incredible.
However if you didnīt take everyoneīs advice (including mine) to see her first on webcam and listen to her voice on the phone, then you deserve whatever happens to you.
see her first on webcam and listen to her voice on the phone.Thanks, FBA and Bonkers. I'll go with Plan B. Too many red flags. I guess I am thinking with my dick.
As for David, your ability to moderate sucks. I plainly stated that I have talked to her. Also facebook. She lives in Zamboanga, not the provinces. Neither of us have web cam and apparently she doesn't want to cam it. You expect me to believe that someone cannot take a bus to the airport for a few pesos?
Hi Guys, I know what I am about to ask has been covered in the forum before but I would appreciate any experienced input on this.
I'm contemplating flying a girl I met on DIA (profile no longer active) from Zamboanga to Cebu, We have been emailing for months. The bikini photos she sends me make me want to whack off they are so beautiful.
The flight is about 3000P RT on Cebu Pacific, no problem. But she want me to send her taxi and luggage money, I said no, sweetie, I'll buy you whatever you need when we meet but I can't send you any money now. I'm awaiting her reply. If she wasn't so damn beautiful I'd just forget the whole thing and go to Plan B.
The photos could be fake and this whole thing could be a scam but damn she's emailed me a lot wanting me to go to Zambo. She doen't have a webcam and is not working like so many of the young lasses. She's 28. An unemployed nurse. I have called her on her cell phone but it is expensive. She sounds nice, tho.
Any tips appreciated.Yes, it is not only necessary to send air ticket but send expense money as well. Only one time I was scammed. But the girl said in her defense that her mother who initially agreed did not want her to go. She was only 18. Whether the excuse is true or not I classify it as scam.
Otherwise all the times I have sent money and if far sent air ticket have showed up although some I did not like in person attitude and friendliness and sex. At those times I wished I could kick her out. But once you make plans for 5 days stay you are stuck for 5 days.
Only one girl did not ask for expense money because she said she will borrow from a friend.
Expense money covers cost of buying a bag (none has a travel bag because they never went anywhere) , some clothes (never had a decent travelling clothese and since she is going to be on the Plane wants to look nice) , toiletries to look nice with make up (they usually shared make up etc within the family) , decent shoes (one girl showed up with dirty old torn shoes and I bought her few pairs) , transport to the airport (many live very far from airport often 4-6 hours away) , airport fees, emergency money (in case you happen to fail to meet her because of whatever reason) , cell phone load.
So I send approx 2500-3000 pesos cash in addition to the air-ticket. I do not want a young girl looking like she is from the slums or living on the street when I take her to my hotel.
Also these girls have the mindset like you want her to come, so all connected expenses has to be born by you even if they have money. Only one girl brought me nice handicraft gift.
Getting a girl through chatting to stay with you is an adventure. Ofcourse rewards are very good IMHO. These province girls so humble and quite happy that you chose her. Even if the relationship did not last she is thankfull for the opportunity. Most girls just hope to find a husband but well aware that a foreigner lasting relationship is too good to be true.
SergeantRay
02-25-12, 02:21
Yes, it is not only necessary to send air ticket but send expense money as well. Only one time I was scammed. But the girl said in her defense that her mother who initially agreed did not want her to go. She was only 18. Whether the excuse is true or not I classify it as scam.
Expense money covers cost of buying a bag (none has a travel bag because they never went anywhere) , some clothes (never had a decent travelling clothese and since she is going to be on the Plane wants to look nice) , toiletries to look nice with make up (they usually shared make up etc within the family) , decent shoes (one girl showed up with dirty old torn shoes and I bought her few pairs) , transport to the airport (many live very far from airport often 4-6 hours away) , airport fees, emergency money (in case you happen to fail to meet her because of whatever reason) , cell phone load.
So I send approx 2500-3000 pesos cash in addition to the air-ticket. I do not want a young girl looking like she is from the slums or living on the street when I take her to my hotel.
Also these girls have the mindset like you want her to come, so all connected expenses has to be born by you even if they have money. Only one girl brought me nice handicraft gift.
Getting a girl through chatting to stay with you is an adventure. Of course rewards are very good IMHO. These province girls so humble and quite happy that you chose her. Even if the relationship did not last she is thankfull for the opportunity. Most girls just hope to find a husband but well aware that a foreigner lasting relationship is too good to be true.From what I have experienced, I would say this is spot on.
A girl will not have a travel bag. Your extra bag to bring home souvenirs comes in handy here.
I've had girls who didn't own a watch and didn't have, or didn't use, make up. A trip to the Gaisano makeup counter, where the sales girl will put on free makeup, plus an investment of 1500 pesos, is a fun date and does wonders.
Many girls don't have decent shoes. They have ratty shoes that they've worn, borrowed, and lent to all and sundry. I've had one girl's shoe fall apart while we were hiking to Tuwasan Falls in Camiguin. She hiked barefooted without complaint. Time for new shoes, and she's grateful.
Many girls also don't have a properly fitting bra. Her own shampoo (she's bought 2 peso sachets for years) , deodorant, and body powder are also luxuries that are appreciated.
I just have questions about sending money in advance. I prefer to buy this in person, with her. In downtown Cebu, Lucky Mart is a good option, with inexpensive clothes.
D cups.
It sounds like a classic game I would not send that girl any money and I would just move on to the next one.
You have given her an excuse and she's not going to turn up even if you send her the airplane tickets she would probably get someone else's name and give someone else
D cups.
It sounds like a classic game I would not send that girl any money and I would just move on to the next one.
You have given her an excuse and she's not going to turn up even if you send her the airplane tickets she would probably get someone else's name and give someone elseInteresting to see the dichotomous responses.
Thanks guys. I'm sticking with Plan B.
Interesting to see the dichotomous responses.
Thanks guys. I'm sticking with Plan B.I recall us giving you lengthy advice months ago about this Zamboanga chat friend and I thought you had moved past it already.
You need to stick firmly to Plan B this time mate.
You are right, Red.
I will not think with my dick.
I will not think with my dick.
I willl not think with my dick.
There, got it now. Sometimes I am a slow learner. Forgive me, my friend.
I recall us giving you lengthy advice months ago about this Zamboanga chat friend and I thought you had moved past it already.
You need to stick firmly to Plan B this time mate.
From what I have experienced, I would say this is spot on.
I just have questions about sending money in advance. I prefer to buy this in person, with her. In downtown Cebu, Lucky Mart is a good option, with inexpensive clothes.Bag she needs before coming, travel expenses she needs, atleast one decent outfit she needs, atleast one pair of decent shoes.
Let us calculate expenses, Bag= 400-800 pesos- travel expense including airport fee=400-500pesos, outfit= 400-500 pesos, shoes= 200-300 pesos- total average atleast 1600 pesos.
You definitely do not want her without any money in case your flight is delayed or for any reason you cannot pick her up from the airport.
One time I was flying from Manila-Cebu, supposed to arrive in cebu around 1 pm. Her flight was supposed to arrive at 3 PM. My flight got delayed and I landed at 4 PM. No way to contact her because this was last minute.
Delay from the airline. This girl was really upset and I can understand how upset and lost she could have been. I had roughly 20 messages from to know where I am. As soon as my plane landed when I got the bars on my Phone I texted her. Thereafter I decided to always fly them in day after I am already there.
From what I have experienced, I would say this is spot on.
A girl will not have a travel bag. Your extra bag to bring home souvenirs comes in handy here.
I've had girls who didn't own a watch and didn't have, or didn't use, make up. A trip to the Gaisano makeup counter, where the sales girl will put on free makeup, plus an investment of 1500 pesos, is a fun date and does wonders.
Many girls don't have decent shoes. They have ratty shoes that they've worn, borrowed, and lent to all and sundry. I've had one girl's shoe fall apart while we were hiking to Tuwasan Falls in Camiguin. She hiked barefooted without complaint. Time for new shoes, and she's grateful.
Many girls also don't have a properly fitting bra. Her own shampoo (she's bought 2 peso sachets for years) , deodorant, and body powder are also luxuries that are appreciated.
I just have questions about sending money in advance. I prefer to buy this in person, with her. In downtown Cebu, Lucky Mart is a good option, with inexpensive clothes.I was recently in Manila Met a shy girl from the province on one of those cam sites I could see she was shy and wasnt a pro so we began to chat and I occasionaly would help her by spending a little time with her on cam. Anyway I told I would be in Manila and would she like to fly to Manila and spend some time with me. She agreed and I bought ticket told her what airline and told her she can go to the aiport give her name and she was set. I sent 800 pesos for expenses. When I met her, her handbag was so worn that you wouldn't find it a second hand store. The next day I took her to store told her to buy handbag and things she needed. She was very very appreciative and gave me some of the best sex I ever had Totally GFE and I think by showing some kindness to these girls from the province really pays off in bed and out of bed.
I'm not moderating you, Jackson is. This is due to your obsession with posting all over the forum asking for information on big boobs.That's not what he told me, David. Why does it say forum moderator under your name?
I was recently in Manila Met a shy girl from the province on one of those cam sites I could see she was shy and wasnt a pro so we began to chat and I occasionaly would help her by spending a little time with her on cam. Anyway I told I would be in Manila and would she like to fly to Manila and spend some time with me. She agreed and I bought ticket told her what airline and told her she can go to the aiport give her name and she was set. I sent 800 pesos for expenses. When I met her, her handbag was so worn that you wouldn't find it a second hand store. The next day I took her to store told her to buy handbag and things she needed. She was very very appreciative and gave me some of the best sex I ever had Totally GFE and I think by showing some kindness to these girls from the province really pays off in bed and out of bed.It's difficult for most of us to appreciate the poverty that pervades life for most of these girls. It is a real eye-opener to visit their homes and begin to understand their circumstances. I always take them shopping. For many, it may be the first time EVER that they have NEW clothes and accessories. Most clothes they own are hand-me-downs purchased at the local used clothing markets. They are always thrilled to go shopping and usually reciprocate with enthusiastic GFE.
Advice please, I will be flying in from Bangkok to Cebu with Cebu Pacific, when do you go through passport control / customs is it Manila / or Cebu.
Daft question it may seem, the reason I ask is, if it is Manila I could break up my trip, and fly that leg Manila- Cebu with Zest
Advice please, I will be flying in from Bangkok to Cebu with Cebu Pacific, when do you go through passport control / customs is it Manila / or Cebu.
Daft question it may seem, the reason I ask is, if it is Manila I could break up my trip, and fly that leg Manila- Cebu with ZestCebu Pacific doesn't fly between Cebu and Manila, and out of Bangkok they only fly to Manila. My guess (and it's only a guess. You should probably check with the airlines to be sure) is that you'll clear customs in Manila, then fly a domestic carrier to Cebu.
Cebu Pacific doesn't fly between Cebu and Manila, and out of Bangkok they only fly to Manila. My guess (and it's only a guess. You should probably check with the airlines to be sure) is that you'll clear customs in Manila, then fly a domestic carrier to Cebu.This is not correct. CP has 8 flights a day from Manila to Cebu. They do not fly direct to Cebu from Bangkok. You will change planes in either Manila or Clark. If you leave Bangkok at 2340 on either a Tuesday or Saturday you will go through Clark, otherwise you are going thorough Manila.
Cebu Pacific doesn't fly between Cebu and Manila, and out of Bangkok they only fly to Manila. My guess (and it's only a guess. You should probably check with the airlines to be sure) is that you'll clear customs in Manila, then fly a domestic carrier to Cebu."Cebu Pacific doesn't fly between Cebu and Manila". Yes they do fly between the 2 cities.
WestCoast1
03-13-12, 14:59
Cebu Pacific doesn't fly between Cebu and Manila,Ya it does. A check of May 12 shows: 16 flights from Manila to Cebu.
WestCoast1
03-13-12, 15:03
i always take them shopping. for many, it may be the first time ever that they have new clothes and accessories. most clothes they own are hand-me-downs purchased at the local used clothing markets. they are always thrilled to go shopping and usually reciprocate with enthusiastic gfe.also malls in the province are dirt cheap. i visited a dia girl in the province last year (she bussed and tryked into the province from way out in the twigs) , and we went shopping. she told me she needed some shampoo and conditioner. she picked up those things (small packets of each) , then she wanted to look at some other stuff. she picked up several other items for herself, her sister, and her mom. total take? under 400 pesos. it took us about 45 minutes to get it all, and she walked out of the mall with several shopping bags hanging on her arm. we stopped for a mcdo and headed back to the hotel. she said she had never been in a mall before (its one of those non-air-con malls) , and seemed real happy about the experience. she then proceeded to nearly [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) me that afternoon, and again after dinner in the evening, and again in the morning before breakfast. several nights of unending bliss from a 19-year-old. never know what's going to happen in pinas, do 'ya?
Advice please, I will be flying in from Bangkok to Cebu with Cebu Pacific, when do you go through passport control / customs is it Manila / or Cebu.
Daft question it may seem, the reason I ask is, if it is Manila I could break up my trip, and fly that leg Manila- Cebu with ZestCebu Pacific will ticket you to your onward destination. If you are flying BKK-CEB, you will be clearing customs at their brand new terminal. All cebu pacific flights including international arrives and leaves from terminal 2.
There is no need to change the terminal to take domestic flights anymore with cebu Pacific.
Cebu Pacific will ticket you to your onward destination. If you are flying BKK-CEB, you will be clearing customs at their brand new terminal. All cebu pacific flights including international arrives and leaves from terminal 2.
There is no need to change the terminal to take domestic flights anymore with cebu Pacific.Forgot to mention terminal 2 in MNL.
Keen Eye Joe
03-13-12, 16:16
i just returned from my annual visit to the phils. one day i took the lrt from ermita to cubao, manila and went shopping at the araneta center mall. i was wearing a nice under armour polo shirt with "arizona state" embroidered on it, which for you non-americans refers to arizona state university in tempe, arizona.
a passing woman made eye contact with me and slowed down as i approached. i naturally smiled and said "hello,". the first thing she said was,"are you from arizona"? i said no, i am from idaho. i asked her if she had ever been to arizona and she said no, but she worked for 411. com (a telephone directory assistance website).
after a few minutes of mindless chatting, i made the comment that i was heading to taco bell for lunch (yeah, the food sucks but i get tired of rice, rice, and more rice). she said she had never eaten there, so of course i extended an invitation to join me. so we had a taco bell lunch, did some window shopping, and then watched a movie matinee (where she cuddled up close and draped her hand on my leg as i put my arm around her shoulders). got to love the whole "instant girlfriend" thing that is relatively easy to find in the phils.
after the movie i made the comment i had some king sized american chocolate bars back at the hotel, and she said she wished i had brought some with me in my backpack. i then said let's go to the hotel and i'll be happy to give you a couple of them. she readily agreed and off we went to the lrt station for the long ride back to the un station in ermita then a quick taxi ride to the hotel.
before you flog me for using the lrt instead of a taxi, let me plead that traffic in manila sucks. it sucks hugely. the lrt cut the transit time in half and the price was 24 pesos apiece instead of the 500 pesos some cab driver would extort from me. i hate the whole manila cab experience! enough said on that subject.
she was 28 years old, no kids, originally from bicol. nice girl, very sweet, intelligent, good head on her shoulders. doesn't use cosmetics but has a very nice natural morena beauty about her. she's going to make someone a great wife someday. it's just not going to be me, because she wants kids and i've been "fixed" so i'm shooting blanks, haha.
back at the room, i turned on the tv and showed her some of the items i had purchased while in the phils. i then opened the suitcase and took out two of the candy bars which she of course loved. we then laid on the bed and i showed her some photos i had uploaded to my tablet computer. i'm not sure if she initially was planning on having "fun" with me at the hotel, but after a while one thing led to another, and another, and another.
we got there at 4 pm and she didn't leave until 4 am to head home to get ready for work. insatiable appetite to go with wonderful gfe. i shot 3 times, which is amazing for this 54 year old guy. usually i am one cum and done, but it's amazing how a little dfk can coax me out to play. i playfully suggested she give me a blow job, but she was hesitant and i didn't push the issue. oh well, i don't always have to have a porn star experience.
she never asked for a dime, she wouldn't even take cab fare from me. she asked if i had facebook but i lied and told her i didn't. it's never a good idea to have a short term partner become a fb friend. trust me on this one!
we exchanged cell numbers and we sent some texts back and forth but after a day i didn't hear from her again. i must admit i didn't contact her either. too many other trails and tails to pursue.
moral to the story: pinays generally love conversation with westeners, but are a bit shy about initiating it. so wearing something that identifies where you are from, whether it be a shirt, baseball cap, stickers on a backpack, et cetera, makes a great conversation starter. i normally wear a denver broncos football or colorado rockies baseball cap when i am out and about, but in the future i think i'll change to a hat that has the name of a us state embroidered on it.
also, those king sized hershey and cadbury candy bars are the absolute best gift you can bring to the phils. women absolutely love them! they are cheap and they don't break very easily in transit. you can get them on sale for $1. 25 each here in the states, but a big cadbury bar will cost over $4 at watsons drug store in manila. the girls also don't care if they lose their shape due to melting. all they care about is the chocolatey goodness. which invariably leads to them sampling my carnal goodness in the hotel, haha.
Forgot to mention terminal 2 in MNL.Hey Sammon and Tanglin: if you are going to give advice make sure it is accurate.
Cebu Pacific uses Terminal THREE (3) in Manila in case some poor soul gets lost in Terminal 2 which is the Centennial Terminal used by PAL
Cebu Pacific's HOME port was originally Cebu in case the name didn't give you a hint. Wherever did anyone get the idea that Cebu Pacific doesn't fly between Cebu and Manila?
As was posted earlier - only an average of 10 flights every day and some days even more!!!
also malls in the province are dirt cheap. i visited a dia girl in the province last year (she bussed and tryked into the province from way out in the twigs) , and we went shopping. she told me she needed some shampoo and conditioner. she picked up those things (small packets of each) , then she wanted to look at some other stuff. she picked up several other items for herself, her sister, and her mom. total take? under 400 pesos. it took us about 45 minutes to get it all, and she walked out of the mall with several shopping bags hanging on her arm. we stopped for a mcdo and headed back to the hotel. she said she had never been in a mall before (its one of those non-air-con malls) , and seemed real happy about the experience. she then proceeded to nearly [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) me that afternoon, and again after dinner in the evening, and again in the morning before breakfast. several nights of unending bliss from a 19-year-old. never know what's going to happen in pinas, do 'ya?in manila take your gf to baclaran street market or better yet give her money and ask her to go alone. my gf insisted i do not go with her because she says if i am with her it is hard to bargain.
in cebu there are street markets everywhere. once again let her go alone and buy. also i have found very nice dresses and shoes on clearance in the mall. it is inexpensive to make a girl happy shopping.
same thing does not apply to ac bargirls. they are spoiled by foreigners who buy expensive things or give lots of money. one girl i took shopping (very rare) wanted 3000 pesos jeans.
Stroker Ace88
03-13-12, 18:24
Hey Sammon and Tanglin: if you are going to give advice make sure it is accurate.
Cebu Pacific uses Terminal THREE (3) in Manila in case some poor soul gets lost in Terminal 2 which is the Centennial Terminal used by PAL.
Cebu Pacific's HOME port was originally Cebu in case the name didn't give you a hint. Wherever did anyone get the idea that Cebu Pacific doesn't fly between Cebu and Manila?
As was posted earlier. Only an average of 10 flights every day and some days even more!Good post that contains valuable corrected info. Hard to fathom the Philippines largest airline would leave MNL-CEB (the most important domestic route) off the schedule.
Cebu Pacific doesn't fly between Cebu and Manila, and out of Bangkok they only fly to Manila.Tanglin has been corrected on the first part of his sentence. We should also correct him on the second part. Cebu Pacific flies not only Bangkok to Manila but also Bangkok to Clark (Angeles City).
Fast Buck Artist
03-13-12, 22:46
In Manila take your GF to baclaran street market or better yet give her money and ask her to go alone. My gf insisted I do not go with her because she says if I am with her it is hard to bargain.I use SM giftcards (http://www.smgiftcard.com.ph) for gifts, the girls feel less prostitute if you give them cards instead of money. Technically its almost the same, it just feels like a gift cause its a GIFTcard haha. I also give these out to employees as a bonus, and for small office related expenses.
Cunning Stunt
03-14-12, 03:52
I just returned from my annual visit to the Phils. One day I took the LRT from Ermita to Cubao, Manila and went shopping at the Araneta Center Mall. I was wearing a nice Under Armour polo shirt with "Arizona State" embroidered on it, which for you non-Americans refers to Arizona State University in Tempe, Arizona.Nice story. Just as a matter of interest, why make the long journey from Ermita to Cubao? Just to go to a shopping mall? There are many malls much more conveniently situated closer to your base than Cubao. Plus you would have gone right past Mega Mall on you way up to Cubao.
You were either in Farmers Plaza or Gateway Mall. The former is the older, smaller mall adjacent to Cubao Station. Reason that I ask is that I have noticed that freelancers hang out in Farmers Plaza and they would view a single foreigner wandering about as a belated Christmas present!
I'm not suggesting that your girl was a freelancer but I think that it was highly likely. In which case, you should really have paid her something, despite her protestations. She was probably a part-timer doing a bit of moonlighting and would have expected something other than a couple of Hershey bars. This is also possibly why she did not keep in contact with you and attempt to repeat the experience. If you had pressed a thousand or two on her, you would have been inundated with text messages, requesting reprises, for the remainder of your time in Manila.
So, well done, you scored a freebie. But to be honest, it would not have left a sweet taste in my mouth (although she undoubtedly had one in hers....lol!).
Keen Eye Joe
03-14-12, 05:13
To make a long story short, the previous week I had traveled 5 hours on a Victory Liner bus from near Alaminos, Pangasinan to the Cubao bus terminal. I was so tired when I arrived that I didn't want to sit in a taxi and fight the rush hour traffic to get to my preferred hotel. So I decided to stay in a Sogo Hotel which was pretty much adjacent to the mall complex. I had never stayed in a Sogo before. They advertise their hotels as being "So Clean And So Good". Well it wasn't clean and it wasn't good. But they did have free western and asian porno channels, haha.
After taking a short nap and shower I was reenergized so I headed over to the mall. While in the Farmers Plaza, I found a kiosk vendor on the top floor who was selling some American football jerseys. I vacillated back and forth about buying a throwback Pittsburgh Steelers Rocky Bleier jersey but didn't pull the trigger. The next day I flew to Iloilo and hugely regretted my indecision. So when I arrived back in MNL a week later, I decided to make the long trip back to Cubao from Ermita. And dang it all, some bestard football fan got to the jersey before me! I was so bummed.
I met her in the new section of the mall complex. It probably was the Gateway Mall, but the name doesn't ring a bell. I do recall taking a sky bridge across from the Farmers Plaza to the newer mall area, where I met the lady the'jour in a mall wing with fancy schmancy stores. I recall we met in front of an Ecco shoe store, if that helps. As to whether she was a freelancer, it's hard to say. I just attributed the whole event as one of those "two ships passing in the night" kind of things, so my conscience is clean, haha. Actually I'm not a big fan of repeat sessions. I like variety and get bored easily, so I wasn't too disappointed when I didn't hear from her again.
I guess I should be posting this information in the Manila thread instead of here, but speaking of freelancers in the Cubao area, I did encounter some late night activity. A couple of girls hanging out on the overpass that leads across EDSA from the Sogo side to the Farmers Plaza, as well a couple standing on the mall sidewalk near the corner at the base of the overpass (near the mall Jollibee).
But during my daytime mall excursion trip, I didn't see any activity at all either inside or outside the mall. On both trips I spent a few hours strolling on all levels of the malls and not one woman initiated any verbal or "come hither" eye contact other than the girl I ultimately ended up with. Much different from the Ayala Center in Cebu where I routinely encounter at least one girl offering services.
The women that were obvious providers were either old, ugly, or a combination of both. They offered "massage" but we all know what that entails. The best looking one out there was a 28 year old being pimped out by an old toothless hag. When I tried to converse with the girl, she didn't respond to me. The hag said she had just arrived from Samar and knew very little English. I would rate her looks to be a 5 out of 10, nothing too special. 500 pesos for all night. There are a few small KTVs in the area around the Sogo Hotel, and I had a drink at each one. I am not much of a KTV person because if I'm going to pay for a girl's time, I want her waxing my weenie instead of just sitting pretty next to me for her 160 peso ladies drink. And besides, I was really tired and wanted to save my strength and stamina for the next day's trip to Barrio Barretto in Olongopo, so I didn't partake.
Tanglin has been corrected on the first part of his sentence. We should also correct him on the second part. Cebu Pacific flies not only Bangkok to Manila but also Bangkok to Clark (Angeles City).OK, ok. Consider me properly whipped with wet noodle. I was looking at their on-line route map, and I didn't realize that they had both an international one as well as a domestic one.
Cunning Stunt
03-14-12, 10:24
So I decided to stay in a Sogo Hotel which was pretty much adjacent to the mall complex. I had never stayed in a Sogo before. They advertise their hotels as being "So Clean And So Good". Well it wasn't clean and it wasn't good. But they did have free western and asian porno channels, haha.If you had popped around the corner from Farmers Plaza, there is a branch of Eurotel, which is exponentially better than Sogo at almost the same price. And you get 4 hours instead of 3.
Hey guys,
I've had a situation come up that I'm sure many of you have gone through. 30yr old educated filipina I've been in contact with for nearly 3 years, never met because we had only just met online 2 months before my last trip, didn't want to travel to meet her, just friends, etc.
She has been in SG for the last month looking for a job, she found something and needs to pay an (agency) finders fee. 1/2 through paycheck deductions and 1/2 upfront. The amount is irrelevant, I can afford it, and promised her I would help.
Now I'm not one to make loans to my friends. I would be giving it to her with no expectation or timeframe for return, it would be her choice to give it back.
But, I have some conditions in mind that I want to bring up with her. At the risk of being offensive.
I want to deal directly with the agency, communication, research, $$ transaction etc.
I have no reason not to trust her, she has never said anything that didn't "add up" with me, or given me any reason to pity her, ask for money, unlike every nearly every other filipina I've ever met online, eventually some obvious lies come out. I made the offer.
How do I tell her I want to deal directly with her agency? If she gets defensive is that a big red flag that I'm being scammed? If you've read this far you probably think my gut is telling me not to do it, and that is why I'm posting, but that is not the case. I just want opinions.
Thanks!
Mr Enternational
05-04-12, 04:36
Hey guys,
I've had a situation come up that I'm sure many of you have gone through. 30yr old educated filipina I've been in contact with for nearly 3 years, never met because we had only just met online 2 months before my last trip, didn't want to travel to meet her, just friends, etc.
She has been in SG for the last month looking for a job, she found something and needs to pay an (agency) finders fee. 1/2 through paycheck deductions and 1/2 upfront. The amount is irrelevant, I can afford it, and promised her I would help.Well I cut it off at this point without even reading the rest of the post. It has been said time and time again in the forum that your money and a chick you have never met does NOT go together. So this chick is 30 years old, educated, and the only way she can get the money that she needs is from a person she has never met. As they say in PI: Bolla Bolla.
Great Muta
05-04-12, 20:42
If you are giving money away, I'll take some. If you give her money, you will deserve whats coming.
Member #4491
05-04-12, 23:33
How do I tell her I want to deal directly with her agency? If she gets defensive is that a big red flag that I'm being scammed? If you've read this far you probably think my gut is telling me not to do it, and that is why I'm posting, but that is not the case. I just want opinions.
Thanks!I suggest you write "I want to deal directly with your agency". But what difference does it make, if you decided to flush that money out of your system? Will that extra little bit of experienced control make any real difference other than adding distrust to your friendship? Or is it more a matter of testing her story? If you want to help her, just send her the money. I would never do it, but in cases where I do decide to share some wealth, I always reason that it is best done in a way that makes everyone happier and not more uncomfortable. Either you give or you do not give. Money comes and money goes. Karma remains.
B.
Hey guys,
I've had a situation come up that I'm sure many of you have gone through. 30yr old educated filipina I've been in contact with for nearly 3 years, never met because we had only just met online 2 months before my last trip, didn't want to travel to meet her, just friends, etc.
She has been in SG for the last month looking for a job, she found something and needs to pay an (agency) finders fee. 1/2 through paycheck deductions and 1/2 upfront. The amount is irrelevant, I can afford it, and promised her I would help.Almost all legitimate agents get their money from the hiring company, not the employee. Sometimes it's through payroll deductions, and other times it's directly as a fee paid by the company.
Now I'm not one to make loans to my friends. I would be giving it to her with no expectation or timeframe for return, it would be her choice to give it back.
But, I have some conditions in mind that I want to bring up with her. At the risk of being offensive.
I want to deal directly with the agency, communication, research, $$ transaction etc.She'll be offended, and even if there really is an agency, they won't want to deal with an outside party like you.
Personally, Enternational's advice is well considered. Otherwise, if you want to give her a gift of the money, then consider it a gift and let it go at that.
Econo Tech
05-05-12, 05:20
almost all legitimate agents get their money from the hiring company, not the employee. sometimes it's through payroll deductions, and other times it's directly as a fee paid by the company.hold your horses my friend. not so fast.
why do you see loads and loads of filipinos here, from kfc, mac, even indian restaurants?
well, the filipinos are conditioned to not find a job without an agency, or they will rot in hell. and that's why a lot of agents love filipinos.
for filipinos, a rule of thumb is 200$ registration fee to agency, and upon securing the job. 3000 $ or equivalent (all s$). and the agents are smart enough not to refuse dealing with third parties.
i know enough girls in universal studios here, as well as in some entertainment spots, working as waitresses / front desk in hotels, all of whom paid agents and religiously pay the agent when their contract gets renewed and will get mad it you tell them it is ok to go minus an agent and then they are also highly educated but dumb enough to believe the agents words that getting pr will reduce their chance of a job (actually the agent means he / she will loose our a source of income.)
primarily the agent speeds up the poea process, bribes the employers hr people and all and secures a job.
for me, i done it once. though getting back half the money was tough, since once she started, her priority shifted to taking care of her family and i recovered 50% and then i felt bad too, when i realised that the agents were still screwing her and her colleagues right royally by declaring a pay of 2, 200 and only paying them 1, 200. on top of the agency fees etc.
now, if i am an agent, and i have like 30 people in my payroll and on top of their agency fee, i still deduct anything between 300$ to 500$ per month for the whole contract period. well, does it take a lot of time to figure out the reason why local unscrupuluous employers and agents love filipino workers?
they may be educated by they are street smart. zero and refuse to reason that they are all being taken for a ride en-masse. a relative of mine runs an agency here, and her requirements are always clear. "i need two filipino architects" and when i say if i can refer indonesians or others she will go like "no, the employer only prefer filipinos". in other words, she cannot milk others like she can do with filipinos.
oh, and the fact that the govt insists that if you go without an agent you are a trafficking victim and may end up as working girl and all. and the natives meekly accept all that. and go only makes it fun for the agents.
oh, above also applies to guys who come in with higher paying jobs too and any attempt to get some common sense into their brain will make they vent their anger and fury at foreigners trying to deprive the good people of poea / dole out of jobs.
busdood: does above make some good reading? haha
Well I cut it off at this point without even reading the rest of the post. It has been said time and time again in the forum that your money and a chick you have never met does NOT go together. So this chick is 30 years old, educated, and the only way she can get the money that she needs is from a person she has never met. As they say in PI: Bolla Bolla.Yes I agree the girl or what ever it is, is a scam at 30 and is in SG sounds like a bloke to me. Busdood Send me the money I will send you photos of my gfs they can tell you how much they love your money
Chocha Monger
05-05-12, 07:23
I have no reason not to trust her, she has never said anything that didn't "add up" with me, or given me any reason to pity her, ask for money, unlike every nearly every other filipina I've ever met online, eventually some obvious lies come out. I made the offer.
How do I tell her I want to deal directly with her agency? If she gets defensive is that a big red flag that I'm being scammed? If you've read this far you probably think my gut is telling me not to do it, and that is why I'm posting, but that is not the case. I just want opinions.
Thanks!You are being scammed but you already know that. You have made up your mind to be scammed. You want opinions? Take the money roll around in it, rub one out the old mutton dart then set the cash on fire. It will be more satisfying.
Read everything the others wrote ONE more time.
She is playing the long game, which is also common from smarter scam artists. You say she has never asked you for money. WHAT THE FUCK IS SHE DOING NOW? LOL let me guess, she only implied that thats her problem and YOU came up with the idea to be her knight in shiny armor? Did she recently started talking dirty to you or maybe gave you a cam show? LOL.
Go on pay her, just remember she is robbing you a good portion of the airfare for your next phils holiday where perhaps you could meet her in person and see for yourself. The money will go one way or another, its up to you if you want to just give it to her, burn it as chocha suggests or use it for your own benefit.
Oh, and by the way a filipina in Singapore without a job will last max 1-2 weeks and burn her lifesaving in the process. No filipina I know goes there to just "look" for a job. She is either set up before she sets a foot on the plane or if she just goes as you say she only gets the tourist 28 days visa on entry which is not simple and easy process to begin with. Those that "just go" usually end up in Orchard Towers or Lucky Plaza. Things here don't add up at all. WAKE UP!
Mr Enternational
05-05-12, 14:33
Oh, and by the way a filipina in Singapore without a job will last max 1-2 weeks and burn her lifesaving in the process. No filipina I know goes there to just "look" for a job. She is either set up before she sets a foot on the plane or if she just goes as you say she only gets the tourist 28 days visa on entry which is not simple and easy process to begin with. Those that "just go" usually end up in Orchard Towers or Lucky Plaza. Things here don't add up at all. WAKE UP!I found 2 in the cafeteria of the university, but they were not students.
I found 2 in the cafeteria of the university, but they were not students.Just out of curiosity, which university and which cafeteria?
(I spend a bit of time in a couple of these).
hold your horses my friend. not so fast.
why do you see loads and loads of filipinos here, from kfc, mac, even indian restaurants?
well, the filipinos are conditioned to not find a job without an agency, or they will rot in hell. and that's why a lot of agents love filipinos.
for filipinos, a rule of thumb is 200$ registration fee to agency, and upon securing the job. 3000 $ or equivalent (all s$). and the agents are smart enough not to refuse dealing with third parties.
i know enough girls in universal studios here, as well as in some entertainment spots, working as waitresses / front desk in hotels, all of whom paid agents and religiously pay the agent when their contract gets renewed and will get mad it you tell them it is ok to go minus an agent and then they are also highly educated but dumb enough to believe the agents words that getting pr will reduce their chance of a job (actually the agent means he / she will loose our a source of income.)
primarily the agent speeds up the poea process, bribes the employers hr people and all and secures a job.
for me, i done it once. though getting back half the money was tough, since once she started, her priority shifted to taking care of her family and i recovered 50% and then i felt bad too, when i realised that the agents were still screwing her and her colleagues right royally by declaring a pay of 2, 200 and only paying them 1, 200. on top of the agency fees etc.
now, if i am an agent, and i have like 30 people in my payroll and on top of their agency fee, i still deduct anything between 300$ to 500$ per month for the whole contract period. well, does it take a lot of time to figure out the reason why local unscrupuluous employers and agents love filipino workers?
they may be educated by they are street smart. zero and refuse to reason that they are all being taken for a ride en-masse. a relative of mine runs an agency here, and her requirements are always clear."i need two filipino architects" and when i say if i can refer indonesians or others she will go like "no, the employer only prefer filipinos". in other words, she cannot milk others like she can do with filipinos.
oh, and the fact that the govt insists that if you go without an agent you are a trafficking victim and may end up as working girl and all. and the natives meekly accept all that. and go only makes it fun for the agents.
oh, above also applies to guys who come in with higher paying jobs too and any attempt to get some common sense into their brain will make they vent their anger and fury at foreigners trying to deprive the good people of poea / dole out of jobs.
busdood: does above make some good reading? hahait does make for some good reading, doesn't it ;-)
i used the term "outside party" instead of "third party" for a reason. i agree that agents will work with third parties that are necessary, but they will avoid dealing with outside parties like ersatz "boyfriends" who want to try and ferret out "corruption" against their "girlfriends."
my experience is probably at a little higher level of employee, so it might be different from the experience of others. i deal mainly with experienced engineers, and my partner deals with folks in the marine business.
i do agree that agents are good at being bloodsuckers :-)
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Oh, and by the way a filipina in Singapore without a job will last max 1-2 weeks and burn her lifesaving in the process. No filipina I know goes there to just "look" for a job. She is either set up before she sets a foot on the plane or if she just goes as you say she only gets the tourist 28 days visa on entry which is not simple and easy process to begin with.You are correct in what you wrote McD.
It is no longer "easy" for a filipina travelling alone to leave the Philippines on a tourist visa bound for Singapore or HK in particular.
Immigration in Manila will stop them and quiz them. Having a letter of invitation is not always sufficient either. They expect the girl will have a return ticket plus a minimum amount of USD in cash too.
I have 3 different friends who can each tell a different story about their gfs being denied boarding when travelling alone.
They had bought the girls the tickets and ended up burned.
FIlipinas can no longer "easily" just jump on a plane and "look for a job".
Mr Enternational
05-05-12, 18:37
Just out of curiosity, which university and which cafeteria?
(I spend a bit of time in a couple of these).I can't say that I remember. But this was about 3 years ago. If you search the Singapore thread with my name then it should come up. I did report it and it was the only time I have been to Singapore.
I did it for you:
We rode through OT last night but the driver informed us that the girls there will want S$200 ST. Too rich for my blood, especially since I will be arriving in Thailand in a few days and can get LT there for S$43. Another driver informed me that he usually goes over to Batam to get chicks cheaper.
Today we took lunch at the food court across from Singapore Management University at the corner of Bras Basah and Bencoolen. I noticed a young lady staring at me so I went straight away to talk to her. Normal women don't do that. Only working ones. She was from the Philipines and had a friend with her. She had just arrived on the 9th (first timer) , however her friend had arrived on the 8th (showed me the stamp in her passport and claimed it was only her second time; would not allow me to see the rest of the passport). I told them that my wingman and I would get our food and we would be right back to sit with them. When I returned another guy had already pulled her friend to another table but she returned later after getting his phone number. The newbie was going to come with me but her friend was kind of afraid for her because she is new so they ended up leaving together. Never got a chance to ask prices.
I can't say that I remember. But this was about 3 years ago. If you search the Singapore thread with my name then it should come up. I did report it and it was the only time I have been to Singapore.
I did it for you:Thanks!
SMU makes sense, as it's near downtown and close to the Bencoolen area where a lot of the girls stay. I spend a lot of time at NUS, and a bit at NTU, and I couldn't imagine a working girl hanging out in the canteens of either of these universities (way too far out of town, and working girls would stand out like a sore thumb).
Wicked Roger
05-06-12, 21:32
You are correct in what you wrote McD.
It is no longer "easy" for a filipina travelling alone to leave the Philippines on a tourist visa bound for Singapore or HK in particular.
Immigration in Manila will stop them and quiz them. Having a letter of invitation is not always sufficient either. They expect the girl will have a return ticket plus a minimum amount of USD in cash too.
I have 3 different friends who can each tell a different story about their gfs being denied boarding when travelling alone.
They had bought the girls the tickets and ended up burned.
FIlipinas can no longer "easily" just jump on a plane and "look for a job".I would also agree RK.
I know 2 girls not P4P who had bought package holidays to Singapore, ticket hotel etc all paid for and evidence of cash and yet still denied. Both respectable and both purchased from a travel agency that was stunned when they came back and told them. Travle agency told her they was no need for all the extra documents.
A good friend in Singapore visitid the PI Embassay and asked what was needed to bring his gf to Singapore. Guess what? It had no clue and completely contradicted the PI immigration stories. He asked about a letter of invite, photos to prove they are together etc and the officials just referred hm to the fact that as an ASEAN country she was allowed a 14 day visa on arrival,
How this squares with immigration letting a suspected killer go to Turkey on a one way ticket (to be with her husband) when the news was full of her alleged involvement in a murder is baffling. But then she was from a very rich family.
Just check the web sites and I cannot see where it says someone with a holiday package purchsaaed from an agency and tickets to provce plus cash can't go becuase she has no invitation letter. From who?
To overcome this I know a dominatrix (well who doesn't) that RK has seen the pics of and likes (the pics not what she does!) and she flies to HK then to Singapore. She said it is easier to take the extra flight less hassle and no one asks "stupid questions"
Or better still be with the girl and that seems to have less hassle
I've decided not to help the girl with her agency fees. Before she made the trip I only made a vague offer to help her out (with living expenses or some minor emergency in mind). No McDon, I didn't want to be her "knight.", she never implied anything. We've had discussions before where I expressed my concern about OFW job placement agencies, especially any that needed upfront cash. And yes E Tech that was a very good read and excellent perspective. It's not that hard to put myself in her shoes.
Frenzy: she's not a "whatever it is" or a bloke, we've had plenty of video chats. I'd be glad to send money to your girls if their salary isn't enough, and you promise to post more pictures.
Mr Handjob
05-07-12, 07:24
Hi there.
I would like to ask this forum if there is any chance that you might get a Philippine maid to also do extra service like massage, blowjob, or maybe even full service and anal?
I will relocate to Moscow and we will have a maid 3 times a week for house cleaning and laundry. Is there any specific codes to use while conducting interviews? Is there anyone that have any agency to recomend? What is the expected costs to the maid for regular service as well as extra service? Can I trust her not to tell my wife about our little settlement?
There needs to bo a couple of us in this forum that have done this before in Moscow or somewhere else.
Willie Wonker
05-07-12, 08:53
It is no longer "easy" for a filipina travelling alone to leave the Philippines on a tourist visa bound for Singapore or HK in particular.
Immigration in Manila will stop them and quiz them. Having a letter of invitation is not always sufficient either. They expect the girl will have a return ticket plus a minimum amount of USD in cash too.I just ran into this when my gf was blocked from leaving by immigration. She had a letter from me stating she was coming to visit and stay in my home and I would cover her expenses, plus copies of my passport, itinerary for her whole trip, and USD $1, 000. She was told she needs an "authenticated letter of invitation", which I must get from the Philippine embassy here. Fortunately I had a refundable ticket, and it only cost me $90 in processing fee. Plus a lot of hassle and a brokenhearted gf.
I've decided not to help the girl with her agency fees. Before she made the trip I only made a vague offer to help her out (with living expenses or some minor emergency in mind). No McDon, I didn't want to be her "knight.", she never implied anything. We've had discussions before where I expressed my concern about OFW job placement agencies, especially any that needed upfront cash. And yes E Tech that was a very good read and excellent perspective. It's not that hard to put myself in her shoes.
Frenzy: she's not a "whatever it is" or a bloke, we've had plenty of video chats. I'd be glad to send money to your girls if their salary isn't enough, and you promise to post more pictures.Glad to hear sounds like a girl to move on from, I was posting what I know about scams as the whole SG sounded like a LB scam. As for my girls plenty of guys have offered more money etc and my girls are still with me, I keep telling them to leave and despite the larger offers they still stay with me. I had a few girls I worked out to be gold diggers and they never got past the p4p.
Geneva Guy
05-07-12, 21:19
I just ran into this when my gf was blocked from leaving by immigration. She had a letter from me stating she was coming to visit and stay in my home and I would cover her expenses, plus copies of my passport, itinerary for her whole trip, and USD $1, 000. She was told she needs an "authenticated letter of invitation", which I must get from the Philippine embassy here. Fortunately I had a refundable ticket, and it only cost me $90 in processing fee. Plus a lot of hassle and a brokenhearted gf.WW,
Ran into that same problem with a filipina from manilla in sept 2011. She figured it out. Went to a travel agent and in a day had this 'authenicated letter of invitatation". With MY authentic signature on it (they lifted the signature off the letter I sent to her it seems, paid the agent 1000 pesos to do it). And she arrived in Singapore a day later. Yep, supposedly you are supposed to to go the PHIL embassy (which by the way is a real treat in efficiency. NOPE) , apply for this and pick it up 2 days later and then send her the original. There is a way to get around this. I guess the travel agent thing worked. The other alternative is to go to PHIL and meet her at the airport and bring her back (yep, its a pain). My GF in Davao used another tactic. She got the ticket I bought, had the papers I sent and looked the immigration people straight in the eye and said "I am going to Singapore to meet my BF and to shop, I have money if you want to see it" (they didn't ask) and got out OK. So, seems there are different ways to get it done. Finally, my friend in SG who has a filipina wife who was stopped from leaving manilla made such a huge scene saying "I am not a prostitute" and yelled and screamed. They let her go to get her out of the office. Hehhehe.
Yep, its a pain. But OH. Those filipinas yum yum.
GG
WestCoast1
05-08-12, 13:35
Hi there.
I would like to ask this forum if there is any chance that you might get a Philippine maid to also do extra service like massage, blowjob, or maybe even full service and anal?
I will relocate to Moscow and we will have a maid 3 times a week for house cleaning and laundry. Is there any specific codes to use while conducting interviews? Is there anyone that have any agency to recomend? What is the expected costs to the maid for regular service as well as extra service? Can I trust her not to tell my wife about our little settlement?
There needs to bo a couple of us in this forum that have done this before in Moscow or somewhere else.You are looking for a pinay maid in moscow?
You are looking for a Russian maid for sex?
You are looking for a pinay maid in pinas?
Did you mean to post this in the Russian thread?
Be specific.
hi there.
i would like to ask this forum if there is any chance that you might get a philippine maid to also do extra service like massage, blowjob, or maybe even full service and anal?
i will relocate to moscow and we will have a maid 3 times a week for house cleaning and laundry. is there any specific codes to use while conducting interviews? is there anyone that have any agency to recomend? what is the expected costs to the maid for regular service as well as extra service? can i trust her not to tell my wife about our little settlement?
there needs to bo a couple of us in this forum that have done this before in moscow or somewhere else.conduct the interview in a casual way.
how are you?
do you do blow jobs?
where your parents are coming from?
keep the blow jobs task off the talks with my wife.
whats your working expeerience?
you seem to have a nice ass, do you anal?
how are you dojng in cleaning dishes, doing laundry, and cleaning windows?
will you be ready to fuck also my friends?
that should work
NicFrenchy
05-08-12, 13:47
conduct the interview in a casual way.
how are you?
do you do blow jobs?
where your parents are coming from?
keep the blow jobs task off the talks with my wife.
whats your working expeerience?
you seem to have a nice ass, do you anal?
how are you dojng in cleaning dishes, doing laundry, and cleaning windows?
will you be ready to fuck also my friends?
that should workpriceless.
I was a few months behind on this thread and read busdood's question and responses a two days ago. Later that day I thought about my experiences with Filipino women whom I had corresponded with for long periods who asked for financial help go get work abroad after knowing them for many months. I can think of half a dozen instances over the years when this has happened to me. In each case I did not send money.
However 4 of 6 managed to go abroad within 6 or 7 months and another took somewhat longer. Five of six contacted me while abroad by email or text at some point and I lost touch with the sixth.
I am quite confident that NONE of my six were 'scams'. And while I know that 5 were able to find a way to reach their goals without me. I am also pretty sure that they would have begun making money sooner and have been much better off borrowing money from me than getting it from the sources they ultimately found. Knowing what I know now, I might done things differently.
The most important thing to decide is what you hope to achieve when you send your money. I think that most of the women in your situation are likely to be sincere, but that DOES NOT mean you are sure to get your money back! To some that equates to being scammed or flushing money down the toilet. To others it's just not that simple. She may weather the next family crisis better thanks to the job abroad, but it may take everything she was supposed to set aside to pay you back. Can you live with that?
I know my thoughts are different than some of the others here. Many of our 'experts' don't have similar experience to what you are dealing with- some live in or often visit the Philippines and do not have long-term correspondences with Filipinas they have never met before. There can also be a certain unease about mongering in a desperately poor country which some feel and try to assuage by pretending the locals are worse than they really are. Who knows, maybe I'm just better at reading people. .
In any case, 'Never send money to someone you've never met' is a DAM Good rule of thumb. It is not carved in stone or correct in all circumstances.
Regards.
-S
Sojourner (quoted below) has some experience and valid observations. I appreciate a girl who has goals in life, such as working abroad or finishing school. Sometimes they are real goals, sometimes only stories (astoryahe, they say) , or posing. One or two questions can usually determine whether she has actually been working toward her goal. For example,"When is the last time you were enrolled in school?";"Can you show me your last grade reports. No? Don't you need it to enroll?"
The next issue, which Sojourner highlights, is whether you are her only hope of achieving those goals. Girls are always telling me that I am their only hope, whether it's to finish school, buy milk for the baby, or pay the entrance fee to a night club. As Sojourner reports, this is generally not the case. They have other resources. But I observe that I am the girl's best, or preferred resource. It may be that I can produce the money immediately, as he surmises. But even more important, a debt to a foreigner does not create an obligation (utang na loob). She may intend to repay the loan, and promise to, but the time will never come when repaying a foreigner is at the top of the list of ways to spend her money. As they all think and sometimes say,"He is a foreigner, he can afford it."
I was a few months behind on this thread and read busdood's question and responses a two days ago. Later that day I thought about my experiences with Filipino women whom I had corresponded with for long periods who asked for financial help go get work abroad after knowing them for many months. I can think of half a dozen instances over the years when this has happened to me. In each case I did not send money.
However 4 of 6 managed to go abroad within 6 or 7 months and another took somewhat longer. Five of six contacted me while abroad by email or text at some point and I lost touch with the sixth.
I am quite confident that NONE of my six were 'scams'. And while I know that 5 were able to find a way to reach their goals without me-S
For the whole of '05 I was quite smitten with a cute little twenty-something who had just finished working her way through college. I always enjoyed the hand-made cards and letters she would send. On special occasions I would send her a gift along with $10 or $20. None-the-less a few times she would complain about money and I would point to what I had sent and say, why don't you use some of that.
When I went to the Philippines in '06 I found that she could account for every penny I had given her. She used what I had sent her as gifts to buy us dinner, pay for cabs, and generally assist me with costs when we did things together.
I'm sure I'm not the only foreigner to loan money to Filipinas and be paid back. I have also sent packages and money to people I have never met who deposited payments, made purchases and forwarded items for me without fail. But my interest in people there extends beyond big-chested teenagers willing to fuck an aging stranger for money to get a new cellphone.
I am hesitant to compare loans for work abroad to loans for school. Work abroad is concrete and results in substantial foreseeable income. A student who she can't take her mid-term exams till she pays her tuition is probably going to have that same crisis a dozen more times on the way to a degree and when she misses a payment, she has to repeat the semester next year. You either sponsor or you pass, a loan is like one brick when you need a dam.
A senior who only needs the loan to finish her degree or get documents is a very common scam. I have never had such a requests after years or even several months of conversation, though most of my long-terms have degrees already.
If you loan to a reasonable person, she will act reasonably based on a notion of cost and shared sacrifice. Given basic mathematical abilities people will assume by default that a person with above median incomes from countries with 10 times the income per capita of their country are likely to handle a missed payment for X dollars easier than their friends and family. But that goes to priority not the presence of an obligation. Similarly your loan is also not at usury rates like some of those she will likely take on in order to get a job abroad so you fall below that too. But that is quite foreseeable.
If you get to know a the responsible woman with a job and a sense of boundaries with their family, generally she will make a decent shot at paying you back. Many of these women have a strong sense of honor and they will work very hard to do what is necessary to meet their commitments once you have earned their respect. But don't send anything you can't afford to loose.
Hi Guys, I've never sought advice on this thread before but I have read it a lot. Please only respond if you know anything about my particular situation. I don't want any arm chair quarterbacks.
I met this DIA chick in Cebu last April with humongous boobs and not fat so we hit it off. She's 26, kinda cute and a criminology student at Cebu U. I have sent her a little bit of money to help her with tuition and she does not appear to be a scammer to me. Emails me all the time with sexy photos and love messages. And no requests for more money.
I like her but I also like to fool around with other girls. Am I puttting myself at risk if she finds out because she is studying to be a cop? The last thing I want is a confrontation with police in a foreign country.
hi guys, i've never sought advice on this thread before but i have read it a lot. please only respond if you know anything about my particular situation. i don't want any arm chair quarterbacks.
i met this dia chick in cebu last april with humongous boobs and not fat so we hit it off. she's 26, kinda cute and a criminology student at cebu u. i have sent her a little bit of money to help her with tuition and she does not appear to be a scammer to me. emails me all the time with sexy photos and love messages. and no requests for more money.
i like her but i also like to fool around with other girls. am i puttting myself at risk if she finds out because she is studying to be a cop? the last thing i want is a confrontation with police in a foreign country.what has studying to be a cop got to do with getting on the bad side of the police?
first of all she is not **** and if she has sex with you it is going to a mutual consent.
if you promised to marry her or told her you want steady relationship then you may get into some trouble if she catches you. only thing she can do is claim [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) if she has connections.
i have not heard of any police complications in the situation you explained. most claims of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), battery, **** etc always starts with money compensation for the police and the girl.
however it is a general rule you follow in any foreign country. do not make the locals angry and this includes girls. never use any physical violence even if the girl is violent. just walk out of the room and try get security to handle the situation.
if you know you are going to be in trouble, leave the country on the next plane. changing the location may not help you if the girl and the hotel knows your full name.
imho most girls in phi understand foreigners want sex only and butterfly. initially they want committment but later they relent if you are nice to them. once they find out you are a butterfly they even fix you up with their friends and cousins.
on my last visit my 19 year old gf pretended to be very jealous every time i looked at a girl or said hi to a girl. after a couple of days she told me if i want to bring another girl into the room i can and she would just watch us having sex. ofcourse i will never do that if i am with normal gf. if i am with a bargirl definitely yes.
Cunning Stunt
06-19-12, 23:11
She's 26, kinda cute and a criminology student at Cebu U. I have sent her a little bit of money to help her with tuition and she does not appear to be a scammer to me.You really crack me up, D. Just because she is doing a criminology course doesn't mean she has any real chance of getting in the police. Criminology courses are ten a penny in the Philippines and are probably as popular and essentially useless as the ubiquitous HRM courses. She will probably end up guarding burgers at Mcdonalds or cakes at Goldilocks. She will still look great in the security guard uniform though and you can lots of fun with her truncheon!
OK, thanks CS and Sammon. I guess I don't have a lot to worry about then.
You really crack me up, D. Just because she is doing a criminology course doesn't mean she has any real chance of getting in the police. Criminology courses are ten a penny in the Philippines and are probably as popular and essentially useless as the ubiquitous HRM courses. She will probably end up guarding burgers at Mcdonalds or cakes at Goldilocks. She will still look great in the security guard uniform though and you can lots of fun with her truncheon!
. Just because she is doing a criminology course doesn't mean she has any real chance of getting in the police. Criminology courses are ten a penny in the Philippines and are probably as popular and essentially useless as the ubiquitous HRM courses. .I can back up CS on this one too.
Criminology courses are currently flavor of the month (not sure why but could be due to the popularity on local TV of a program called "SOCO or Scene of the Crime Operative"). Add in the CSI passion and it makes sense.
The entrance requirements to get into both Police and Defence Force Academies are well beyond the majority of students these days.
Most fantasise about it but few will get enough credits to be able to enrol.
As CS alludes; the trend shifts year by year. 4 or 5 years ago everybody was doing "Media Studies" (to be a reporter on TV). Then it shifted to HRM courses. Now it is Criminology.
Thanks, Red. Interesting. I guess we will put those handcuffs to good use on her instead. Never tried bondage before but I guess some guys are into it. Probably CS is ha haha. He puts his girls in all kinds of kinky costumes and positions! .
I can back up CS on this one too.
Criminology courses are currently flavor of the month (not sure why but could be due to the popularity on local TV of a program called "SOCO or Scene of the Crime Operative"). Add in the CSI passion and it makes sense.
The entrance requirements to get into both Police and Defence Force Academies are well beyond the majority of students these days.
Most fantasise about it but few will get enough credits to be able to enrol.
As CS alludes; the trend shifts year by year. 4 or 5 years ago everybody was doing "Media Studies" (to be a reporter on TV). Then it shifted to HRM courses. Now it is Criminology.
Thanks, Red. Interesting. I guess we will put those handcuffs to good use on her instead. Never tried bondage before but I guess some guys are into it. Probably CS is ha haha. He puts his girls in all kinds of kinky costumes and positions! .Police uniform to go with the cuffs you might as well make her feel like a cop for a night LOL
Cunning Stunt
06-21-12, 19:24
Never tried bondage before but I guess some guys are into it. Probably CS is ha haha. He puts his girls in all kinds of kinky costumes and positions! .Never tried BDSM? What kind of monger are you, for heavens sake? I've tried it but I always end up rolling around giggling with the girl when I should be sternly whuppin' her ass. Much rather be pissing in her willing little mouth (joke!).
I love uniforms but what do you mean by positions? I'm a strictly missionary only man..lol.
But come to think of it, some girls have bent over backwards to please me. Is this what you mean?
Wicked Roger
06-21-12, 20:39
I guess we will put those handcuffs to good use on her instead. Never tried bondage before but I guess some guys are into it. .Definitely WR LOL.
But where you live I am sure that BDSM means a big jail time or a death sentence. If not, it soon will if Romney gets the nod LOL.
CS. Nice picture, I must get some bondage stuff for DC to look at as you should try.
You guys are too funny, CS and WR. Nice shot. Those kind of shots are a real eye opener and leg opener! Gives a hole new meaning to the phrase get bent hahhahahaha. Nows let's put some dicks in those holes shall we boys?
I'll be back in PI and VN in October and can hardly wait. I'm tired of getting hit on by the beefy sows and cows here in the US of A. Seriously. I need some slim and stacked young tight kiki cum dribbling sexy thing to add meaning to my dull and dreary life here. In the mean time keep posting those great photos!
Never tried BDSM? What kind of monger are you, for heavens sake? I've tried it but I always end up rolling around giggling with the girl when I should be sternly whuppin' her ass. Much rather be pissing in her willing little mouth (joke!).
I love uniforms but what do you mean by positions? I'm a strictly missionary only man. LOL.
But come to think of it, some girls have bent over backwards to please me. Is this what you mean?
Greetings gents,
I'm returning to the Phils next month and I've been chatting by email and messenger to quite a few lovely little Pinays the past few weeks, which they are all quite eager to meet me. I've built a short list of the better ones to meet. The best one, a very beautiful girl in Iligan City near General Santos, I've been exchanging quite hot emails with and she's been telling me of her unconditional love and how much I mean to her. Blablabla. While I'm not naive to fall for this sweet talks, I'm also quite intrigued by her as she is truly stunning and wants to have her entire family meet me in the airport in GS. It's not my first time in the PHI but it will be my first time in the provinces and meeting a family. Can the veterans in here share their experiences with similar things such as being greeted by the entire family of a girl you're meeting for the firs time. I told her in my last email that I don't to meet her family at the airport as I'll be coming from a series of long flights and be very tired but she is welcomed to meet me there. What are the wise and veteran experts hands have to say / suggest in such a case? I kind of feel that upon meeting the family, I'd have to take them all for lunch / dinner and treat them and then pay for everything. While I might consider doing this with a girl I'm already seeing and know, I'm having my reservations about a girl I've never met before.
Also, anyone in here has been to General Santos and Iligan City? How is it there compared to Cebu (my only experience in the Phils so far)? How is safety there? I'm all ears for all and any suggestions / tips gents.
Edit: Sorry I meant near Cagayan de Oro and not GS, but I'd be interested to hear thoughts on GS too. Thanks. :)
Big Mistake! Only do so AFTER you have really got to know the girl. And even then, don't, unless you are prepared to make an ill advised commitment without testing the waters and learning the score. CDO is nothing like Cebu. It is growing, but is in the minor leagues in all respects compared to Cebu. Illigan is just a town with only one hotel that is even remotely habitable. You are far too inexperienced to think about wandering around Mindanao. Stick to Cebu until you gain an education and some semblance of understanding. Much of Mindanao is safe much of the time. Some of Mindanao is NOT safe ALL of the time. No place for a rookie to make rookie mistakes. You could be an accident waiting for a place to happen.
WestCoast1
07-06-12, 09:47
blablabla. while i'm not naive to fall for this sweet talks, i'm also quite intrigued by her as she is truly stunning and wants to have her entire family meet me in the airport in gs.
edit: sorry i meant near cagayan de oro and not gs, but i'd be interested to hear thoughts on gs too. thanks. .other gents may disagree. but noooooooo you should not go to iligan. you fly to cdo and stay there. its not wise to travel west of cdo. its a pain to get from in town cdo to the airport and back, taxi's want about p300 to make the trip. some hotels offer the same price for a van to pick you up. cdo is a large barrio. if your only point of reference is cebu, you are stepping down a notch to the province here.
now on to having her family meet you. noooooooo again. in phils in general, and mindanao moreso, there is a natural aversion on the girl's part to meeting you alone. they will want to bring a friend / cousin, then when you say yes, they will expand that to her aunt and mom and everyone else. a story here, and while its one of mine, many other gents have experienced it: my girl shows up at the provincial airport with family in tow. we get back to the hotel, and they invite themselves in to see the room. they don't leave. they behave like this is normal behavior. to get rid of them (they've been in my room for 2 hours) , i suggest we go get a sip of tea somewhere. all 9 of them hit me up for lunch, then they want to go shopping (guess who they want to pay for everything, and guess how hurt they look when they suggest that the baby needs [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131) and i won't buy them). the followed me nearly everywhere, including waiting just outside the cr (hair stood up on my neck whilst peeing, thinking they were all craning their necks to see me [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)). when i finally got loose from them, they would not let their daughter go to the hotel with me."we are not that kind of family sir." there i was, stuck in the province, with no plan b, alone in my hotel room.
better plan: get to your hotel on your own, have her bring one family member to meet with you for lunch / dinner, then the family member goes home and the girl stays with you. you can meet with the family a few days later. if she / they is not agreeable to this, they are thinking on a different plane than you are (see story above). other gents?
also please see my recent cdo reports in dragonslayer's forum.
wc
Wicked Roger
07-06-12, 11:44
Better plan: get to your hotel on your own, have her bring one family member to meet with you for lunch / dinner, then the family member goes home and the girl stays with you. You can meet with the family a few days later. If she / they is not agreeable to this, they are thinking on a different plane than you are (see story above). Other gents?
Also please see my recent CDO reports in DragonSlayer's forum.
WCI would endorse this view, you have not been long enough in the country to do what you plan, if she is really keen (and you of course) suggest to her that you fly her to Cebu. You pay on credit card so if she no shows then you can get your money back (and she can't try to cash in the ticket). She may say no but try but don't meet her at the airport and never let the family get invovled until you have spent time with her.
I had a wry smile at WC's 'adventure' but this does happen often and a lot to newbies. The family see this dollar sign above your head when they meet you, not just you.
If do go against the advice let us know how much you had to spend on the family. Before she would be alone with you
Radical Guy
07-06-12, 17:26
You can't really blame a decent Filipina for wanting to bring one or two friends or family members to a first meeting with a foreign guy. This is just prudent on her part, since after all, you could be an ax murderer or something, for all she knows. Buying a meal for one or two extra folks is no big deal, since food is generally cheap in the Philippines, especially in the provinces, unless you go to some expensive hotel or something.
However, I do agree that it is unreasonable for a girl to expect you to treat her whole family when meeting you for the first time. I am married to a Filipina I met about 7 years ago. Her family was and is very unique, in that they had no interest in me buying anything for them. In fact, when they invited me to their home in Nabunturan for a lechon baboy dinner and endless accompaniments, my future father-in-law seemed insulted when I wanted to contribute to the cost of the meal, insisting "You are our guest!"
But I must admit that my wife's family is probably in the minority. Most of the time, Filipino families will try to milk you for what you are worth!
RG
Big Mistake! Only do so AFTER you have really got to know the girl. And even then, don't, unless you are prepared to make an ill advised commitment without testing the waters and learning the score. CDO is nothing like Cebu. It is growing, but is in the minor leagues in all respects compared to Cebu. Illigan is just a town with only one hotel that is even remotely habitable. You are far too inexperienced to think about wandering around Mindanao. Stick to Cebu until you gain an education and some semblance of understanding. Much of Mindanao is safe much of the time. Some of Mindanao is NOT safe ALL of the time. No place for a rookie to make rookie mistakes. You could be an accident waiting for a place to happen.I made the mistake of meeting the family few times. Firstly I was curious, secondly wanted to experiene local culture, thirdly wanted to see if I can hook with good looking girls.
Experiencewise failed miserably on all counts.
Ofcourse I would never meet the family if I was meeting the girl first time irrespective of how cute she is.
Couple of instances come to my mind. My GF from Leyte who I was seeing and spending time with regualarly wanted me to meet her family. In Spite of my saying we will find our own transport she insisted her family will hire a van and come meet us. Yes, the van was nice and it cost me 2000 pesos. If we would have taken a taxi less than 1000 pesos. Whole family came group of 10 people. After intros there was nothing to talk. Soon my girl said they are all hungry and we have to stop. All ate well and the check was little more than 1500 pesos. Good thing it was a roadside barbecue place. Next they wanted me to stay in their house. I said no knowing fully well I had to pony up for everything and told my girl we are staying in a hotel. Next day my girl asked me for money saying her family wanted to give me dinner and cost is 3000 pesos for dinner and drinks. Dinner consisted of some chicked and rice and beer. And to top that one of her uncles wanted me to invest in some kind of factory he wants start. I said I will think about it politely. Following her father who has a fishing boat wanted to take me and do not know how many others for a fishing trip. I said we will see knowing fully well that I had to pony up for food and drinks again. Next day I told the girl we are going to Ormoc and staying there. I gave a lame excuse saying I do not like the hotel.
Another instance another girl. I usually let her fly into Manila and stay with me. This time she said her uncle wanted to see me at the mall. I said I am tired and do not feel like going to the mall. I told her she can go and meet him. So she left and withing about an hour her uncle and others with kids group of six came knocking into my room. They made themselves comfortable including kids who raided the pantry. There was no sign of them leaving after an hour. So I called my girl and said they have to leave because I am tired. She told me they are waiting for lunch and some shopping. I just gave her 500 pesos and told her let them go buy lunch somewhere. My girl wanted to buy toys for the kids. I said sorry.
Do not meet the family whatever the circumstances are. As for local culture just let you and the girl go and experience small towns. Fiestas are not as it is touted. Usually it is Church ceremony and a procession with lots of girls in costumes dancing with some local bands.
Thanks gents for your feedback, very much appreciated!
I now definitely know I won't be meeting the family at the airport and I'm even having 2nd thoughts of having the girl meet me at the airport too. I really like the suggestion of flying her to Cebu. I think this is what I'm going to do. The last thing I want is after almost 24 hours flying to have a bunch of provincials looking at me as Santa Claus.
Another thing I'm thinking I might do is I go to Davao City, a place I've heard heaps of positive things about it and have her join me there. How long is the drive from Iligan City to Davao City? Has anyone been brave enough in here to do that ride? On a map, they look not too far from each other (perhaps 150-200kms?). Thoughts on that gents?
Thank you very much guys for your feedback! Looks like I'll be spending a few days in AC, then to Cebu and then Davao towards the end of Aug / early Sept. If any of you gents will be in town at the time, would love to meet for drinks and swap stories, pick your brains on the place / pinays and living there. I've already had the privilege of meeting you WR in Cebu, at the end of 2010, on new years' eve with a bunch of other guys at Bo's cafe in Ayala (not sure if you remember but I will not forget it, admittedly it was a long time ago.). You were quite a gentleman! You were with 2 of the finest specimen of Filipinas I saw in Cebu that night. Where do you pick those? What's your secret uncle WR? Care to share your secret with some of the younger of us? .
I made the mistake of meeting the family few times. Firstly I was curious, secondly wanted to experiene local culture, thirdly wanted to see if I can hook with good looking girls.
Experiencewise failed miserably on all counts.
Ofcourse I would never meet the family if I was meeting the girl first time irrespective of how cute she is.
Do not meet the family whatever the circumstances are. As for local culture just let you and the girl go and experience small towns. Fiestas are not as it is touted. Usually it is Church ceremony and a procession with lots of girls in costumes dancing with some local bands.Excellent post Sammon. It brought a smile to my face and I can relate directly to your experience as virtually the same happened to me.
I prefer to meet the family after I had sex with the girl and I want her to live with me. I do it under my terms and only if the girls wants me too. I would never fly to meet a girl they can borrow money and get a ferry to Cebu, they can also stay with friends and family.
Do not go out of your way to meet province girls, you can make trips there if you have a girl who wants to take you, but meeting strange people for sex in this way has many disappointments and dangerous. Ask you self why can they afford Internet but not a bus and ferry trip to the city.
WestCoast1
07-07-12, 07:57
You can't really blame a decent Filipina for wanting to bring one or two friends or family members to a first meeting with a foreign guy. This is just prudent on her part, since after all, you could be an ax murderer or something, for all she knows.Yes, I think many of us forget that, or newbs don't think of it. I have no objection with her bringing a friend / relative, but just one. Given that we are meeting in the mall, there is little reason for concern on her part. Usually the reasons for multiple friends / relatives revolve around: can she get you to pay for lunch for as many people as possible, and / or to have her auntie size you up as a person (how serious are you towards her). I'm fine with buying them coffee or jolliebee, but nothing more, and at that point the auntie / friend has to go home, and the girl must come with me, or we are parting ways for good. There are even times when I throw the fish back to the sea: she wants to come with me, auntie is fine with it, but for one reason or another I decide the better of it (ie, she appears too young).
Most of the time, Filipino families will try to milk you for what you are worth!
RGThe families, and the girls themselves. This is part of the outlook, and while you and I think very lowly of it, it seems very natural. A few more examples:
1. Recently I made a mistake. I violated the 'meet-in-the-mall-for-a-drink-only-FIRST' rule. A dating site chatmate and I were on cam together. She said,"Are you in XXXXXXX hotel?" She could see the headboard and wall. I said yes. She wanted to come over. It was 11pm. I told her we could go for one san mig, it was late, I was tired. We were going to meet at a bar up the street. As I was walking out of the hotel, she was walking in (not as attractive as on cam). She claimed she paid a taxi p220, and wanted me to give her R / T fare (I'm sure she just stepped off the jeep). Fine. Later. In the bar, the waitress immediately got pushy with the menu as soon as we sat. She showed my date the expensive fruity drink price list (most drinks p400+). I told the waitress we wanted two san mig lights. The waitress wrote it on her pad, and went back to showing my date the expensive drink list. The date pointed to a p500 drink and the waitress started to write it down, and I nixed it. My date, who said she'd never been in that bar, then turned the menu to the foods list (also very expensive) , and I told the waitress we would not be ordering food. The waitress left and brought the beers. We enjoyed the band and beers. I went to the CR, when I come out, we chat a bit, I'm getting ready to go and give her the taxi fare home. As I tell her its time to go, she says wait, she ordered more beer. The waiter comes with the beers and I tell him to nix that, and he says: "Sir your food is up. I'll cancel the beers but you ordered food. Its ready." This was not the same original waitress. I told him I ordered nothing. He pointed to my date. Great. A huge plate of squid showed up. We kept the beers. I don't like squid. Total cost for the squid and 4 beers: p1000. I asked the girl why she ordered without checking with me: "Why not? We are having fun!" Instead of meeting briefly, then heading to the hotel, I stupidly told her I'd take her to a bar for a drink. Cost of drinks, food, and her transport (couldn't wait to get rid of her) : 1500.
Not quite done here. After leaving the bar, she dragged me into a convenience store up the street, and grabbed about p75 worth of candy."For my daughter when I get home. You buy me." This is in stunningly bad form for any woman, but in the pinay culture, the girls will grab an inch, and take a mile. Its fairly true across the islands, and she will often get things to take home for as many of her family members as she can."My brother need a medicine." Having the girl bring her family to the airport is like having extra sets of eyes on you to give you the 'sad-eyes' treatment. This girl is no different than any other.
My point is this: the girls have no limits on what they ask for. Every time you (or I) say YES to any one small thing, you (or I) are thinking YES to that one thing. In her mind, what she is hearing is: "YES, and please ask for something bigger next time." It seems to embolden her. Once you say NO to something, you will find that if she is alone, outside the presence of her family / friends, she is just fine with NO. In fact, you have drawn the line, and she knows now not to go over asking a certain amount from the last thing you paid for. Saying no seems to be the way to tell her: enough for today. However, if she is in the presence of her family or friends, they will pressure her to not accept a NO.
Mr Enternational
07-07-12, 08:03
Next day my girl asked me for money saying her family wanted to give me dinner and cost is 3000 pesos for dinner and drinks. Dinner consisted of some chicked and rice and beer.Sounds like you are the one who gave the dinner.
Thanks gents for your feedback, very much appreciated!
I now definitely know I won't be meeting the family at the airport and I'm even having 2nd thoughts of having the girl meet me at the airport too. I really like the suggestion of flying her to Cebu. I think this is what I'm going to do. The last thing I want is after almost 24 hours flying to have a bunch of provincials looking at me as Santa Claus.
Another thing I'm thinking I might do is I go to Davao City, a place I've heard heaps of positive things about it and have her join me there. How long is the drive from Iligan City to Davao City? Has anyone been brave enough in here to do that ride? On a map, they look not too far from each other (perhaps 150-200kms?). Thoughts on that gents?
Thank you very much guys for your feedback! Looks like I'll be spending a few days in AC, then to Cebu and then Davao towards the end of Aug / early Sept. If any of you gents will be in town at the time, would love to meet for drinks and swap stories, pick your brains on the place / pinays and living there. I've already had the privilege of meeting you WR in Cebu, at the end of 2010, on new years' eve with a bunch of other guys at Bo's cafe in Ayala (not sure if you remember but I will not forget it, admittedly it was a long time ago.). You were quite a gentleman! You were with 2 of the finest specimen of Filipinas I saw in Cebu that night. Where do you pick those? What's your secret uncle WR? Care to share your secret with some of the younger of us? .I do not know what you will do but I will tell you what I do.
1. I check and find the cheapest fare and buy the ticket and e mail her with instructions to print it out and go to the airport with valid I. D. Airlines are not picky about I. The, even a fake one showing pic and D / O/B will do.
2. I send about 1000-1500 pesos through western union. This covers transportation, airport charge, food, cost of buying a cheap bag and some decent clothes.
3. If she does not show, yes I have lost some money. Out of about 20 or more over the years only one failed to show up.
4. All girls had sex with me although some are reserved and shy and not much experience. But after a day or so they start to trust and become better. Ofcourse they all say they love me (IRRESISTIBLE?)
5. After first time depending on how much I like the girl I meet them again and plan vacations etc.
6. Ofcourse if the girl is friendly with no demands or drama, I tend to be very generous.
I would suggest meet the family only if you are thinking of settling down with the girl. For the casual mongering purposes only the girl is important.
Yes, Sprite, I've travelled quite extensively by road around Mindanao. Iligan to CDO West Bus Terminal takes about 90 min. Then 30 min to East Terminal and then bus to Davao will take another 6. 7 hrs plus. Then add in various waiting times. So it would be a long day's travel, but can be done. You would probably have to advance her at least 1200 pesos to cover transportation and food. You would meet her at Ecoland Terminal in Davao. However, she hopefully has a cell phone and load to keep you informed as to her progress and arrival time. BTW This will be an epic journey for most young girls, especially traveling alone. It would be a brave girl who agrees to do this.
Thanks guys once again for all your wise and very helpful comments and suggestions regarding my question.
Now, here's where it gets a big juicy: she's already calling me her love. The email account I write her and all the girls is one I use with a fake name and she has been signing her name on my her emails to me using her first name and the fake last name I use on my email. Plus, she has been writing repeatedly that I'm her strength, love and life. She even went as far as signing her last email as "your wife". LOL
Also, she's been hinting indirectly in all her emails at a few things that have made me raise some red flags:
1) how she wished she had a digital camera to send me more pics of her.
2) how she wished she had a laptop so we could video chat and chat on a daily basis.
3) how she wished she a cell phone as she pawned hers a while ago when she needed money.
4) her mother's birthday is on July 10 and how she wished she had money to go see her for that as she lives in an another city and some money to spend on her birthday.
Mind you, she has not asked me directly for any financial help, however, she has been repeating those in almost every one of her email since we started chatting about 2 weeks ago. In her emails, she would be extremely sweet, warm and express her unconditional love to me despite not having met her yet.
She tells me how her aunt, with whom she's been living in an another city has been mean to her, overworking her and even hitting her but she respects her as she's been supporting her. Mind you, this is not an 18 or 19 year old but rather a 27 year old, no kid, never married and simply stunning. She doesn't look pinay to be honest but more like a Colombian beauty. I don't know if in here I'm thinking with the little head as opposed to the big one, but I'm quite intrigued by her and I figure, sending her a return ticket to Cebu will cost 70-80 bucks max and with the total experience tops 100 bucks. Really nothing to gamble in her to see if she's really as pretty and sexy as her pictures are showing. I will do what you guys have wisely suggested and that is to send her a ticket to Cebu. If that fails, I'll fly to Davao and will have her join me. Oh and BTW, forgot to mention that after she had suggested that her entire family would meet me at the airport in CDO to which I had replied that's not going to happen, she replied that she understands and only her would come at the airport. Obvious after reading your comments based on your experience in the Phils, even that won't happen. I'll go to my hotel by myself and I'd meet her afterwards.
So thoughts on that gents? Once again, very much appreciated guys!
Makeupaname
07-08-12, 04:19
You know the answer already. No need to ask. Drop her and don't lead her on.
It's only emails with this giirl? Any filipina with internet will have a web cam
Sprite13 she is really working you, she is doing this with a bunch of other men, try ask a friend to contact her and see them get the same response, why would a girl you never met fall for you? All the hints about money are a sign to run. Her saying she is getting abused it to make you feel sorry for her, no family put up with abuse, unless it from her husband, father or brother, in which case she prob needs it.
Just do not waste money online, use it to get some contacts and when you get here text them you are here and see who turns up, I prefer to pick my girls from what I see in a bar on the street in the malls, I can tell how they react to me when I met them if I want them, some ask for money from day one.
GoodEnough
07-08-12, 08:39
A young (but wise) expat friend of mine who has been in country for about two years, recently told me that, in his view, this is a country inhabited solely by adolescents, and he's correct for the most part. That being the case, it's perhaps not surprising that a 27 year old woman behaves much like a 12 year old girl-since her mental age remains fixed at about twelve. That being the case, and CDO being the smallish city that it is, I suggest that you have her meet you in Davao, thereby avoiding the possiblity of her family, friends, neighbors and barnyard pets dropping by your hotel. At least in Davao, if it doesn't work out, you an always send her back with the reasonable assurance that she cannot return to haunt you.
The drive from Iligan to Davao is a long one. It's about 1. 5-2 hours to get to CDO and then another 6-7 hours to Davao. Of course you can fly CDO-Davao in 30 minutes, and from CDO to Cebu in less than an hour.
GE
You know the answer already. No need to ask.Too true, Stevie Wonder could see through this.
It is always extraordinary to see chaps setting things ahead so to arrive in the country welcomed by a "nice to see you, darling" board at airport arrival. While the can make some sense in some inhabited country where pussy is rare and the hunt difficult, those blind dates, given also the huge amount of well known scams, can't be anything else than a high risk of a (financial) disaster.
Given that finding pussy in SEA is generally easy and lots of girls are on the search of a LTR (and more) common sense would suggest one arrives with no welcome expectations, goes out on the hunt and once he finds the good one he extends to the LT or LTR. At least he seen his target in real, checks the chemistry and performances, both in bed and in GFE.
I don't think his hunt will take far more than a day.
The chances to score are far better and more reliable than hitting through DIA and avoids the hassle of sick buffaloes, broken brother at university, old mum having to pay the funeral for her ninths grandfather.
Asian Rain
07-08-12, 15:20
Sprite13 she is really working you, she is doing this with a bunch of other men, try ask a friend to contact her and see them get the same response, why would a girl you never met fall for you? All the hints about money are a sign to run.Good advice. If I need to "test" a girl, I just make a fake account and send a message. This is a quick way to find out about a girl's modus operandi. As a gentle observation, going out of your way set up a date with a peasant girl in the middle of nowhere who is showing all the signs of being a model parasitic provider shows extraordinary lack of awareness. Just for curiosity, my inclination is to recommend to proceed full steam ahead!
That being said, I have seen this kind of "innocent newbie request for advice" a number of times over the years, with the same well-intentioned replies from experienced members. Has there ever been a case of one of these requesting members posting back their actual experience of following through? Not that I can remember. Will be knocked off my chair to see a field report in this case. Enjoy the Philippines, AsianRain
FreebieFan
07-09-12, 02:06
2) how she wished she had a laptop so we could video chat and chat on a daily basis.
3) how she wished she a cell phone as she pawned hers a while ago when she needed money.If I had the proverbial dollar for every ocassion I have heard these lines I would have a lot more dollars than I currently have. Standard chat mambobola.
Thanks guys again for your invaluable feedback. Whatever happens, I will report it back here guys.
BTW, how long does it take for a Pinay to obtain a Phils passport and how much it costs? Any idea gents? Anyone here gone through the steps of having one of your girls apply for one in the Phils? What document is required for a Pinay national to fly locally?
Much appreciated guys.
FreebieFan
07-10-12, 02:02
Thanks guys again for your invaluable feedback. Whatever happens, I will report it back here guys.
BTW, how long does it take for a Pinay to obtain a Phils passport and how much it costs? Any idea gents? Anyone here gone through the steps of having one of your girls apply for one in the Phils? What document is required for a Pinay national to fly locally?
Much appreciated guys.To get a passport requires birth cert, voters I'd, NBI clearance and something else. Its all clearly listed on the website. How lnog. Depends where its being pobtained and whether you are paying an agent to help or she's doing it herself. NBI clearance can be up to a day in itself to obtain, if you join the queue / line at 4am that is.
She can fly locally with just a voters ID.
Thanks guys again for your invaluable feedback. Whatever happens, I will report it back here guys.
BTW, how long does it take for a Pinay to obtain a Phils passport and how much it costs? Any idea gents? Anyone here gone through the steps of having one of your girls apply for one in the Phils? What document is required for a Pinay national to fly locally?
Much appreciated guys.Most girls are getting stopped flying out on their own, read the Manila thread. Local travel any I'd with photo will do, usually they have postal I'd.
Wicked Roger
07-10-12, 04:17
Thanks guys again for your invaluable feedback. Whatever happens, I will report it back here guys.
BTW, how long does it take for a Pinay to obtain a Phils passport and how much it costs? Any idea gents? Anyone here gone through the steps of having one of your girls apply for one in the Phils? What document is required for a Pinay national to fly locally?
Much appreciated guys.Normally a month from the DFA for a passport but the fast track is a week as long as she has all the paperwork in place (eg NBI clearance, barangay clearance, birth certificate). Cost I think can be found of the DFA website as can most of the requirements but if I remember (and please correct me if wrong) around 2000 pesos for the normal process excluding the costs for the supporting documents.
As F3 said, a postal I'd is OK for local flights and is easily obtained
FreebieFan
07-10-12, 06:28
It is always extraordinary to see chaps setting things ahead so to arrive in the country welcomed by a "nice to see you, darling" board at airport arrival. While the can make some sense in some inhabited country where pussy is rare and the hunt difficult, those blind dates, given also the huge amount of well known scams, can't be anything else than a high risk of a (financial) disaster.Last year took the rare and unusual step of letting a girl meet me at the airport. It was a 4am arrival flight so I figured if she was that keen it must all be good. She was 18/19 and living in Antipolo. Arrived in aiport, and she was exactly like her pics, wearing nice heels, curvy tall body. Hands were on each other in the taxi and we were going at it maybe 40 mins after touch down (fort bonifacio not far from Naia 3) And as a nice touch I recall she kept the heels on even if everything else was off LOL.
She left my place by 12 noon and I was happily set up for the rest of the day. We had a follow up meeting on my next trip but second time is never as much fun as first. Overall tho, for a newcomer to arrive, not knowing his Makati ave from Ayala ave, his P Burgos from Burgos Circle it wouldn't be wise to be met at all.
Wicked Roger
07-10-12, 17:00
And as a nice touch I recall she kept the heels on even if everything else was off LOL.Only ever did it once and she had heels, leather studded collar, little black dress and bugger all else under it. Was a very charming ride to the hotel. Again a once off and never again.
Heels. This (as well as pocket rockets). Are the matter of state affairs that we need to educate the girls on. Sleep with them on also would be my tutition tip so when you awake it is a nice 'touch' for the early breakfast
FF hopefully our paths will cross soon, check the emails / PMs
Last year took the rare and unusual step of letting a girl meet me at the airport. .Chapeau to that!
Radical Guy
07-11-12, 00:13
Oh, come on! She's your "wife," after all, so of COURSE you should send her a laptop, digital camera, new cell phone, and money for ALL her relatives! Hell, send her a debit card on your main bank account, and keep it well funded. How can you have any question about that? LOL.
RG.
Now, here's where it gets a big juicy: she's already calling me her love. The email account I write her and all the girls is one I use with a fake name and she has been signing her name on my her emails to me using her first name and the fake last name I use on my email. Plus, she has been writing repeatedly that I'm her strength, love and life. She even went as far as signing her last email as "your wife". LOL
Also, she's been hinting indirectly in all her emails at a few things that have made me raise some red flags:
1) how she wished she had a digital camera to send me more pics of her.
2) how she wished she had a laptop so we could video chat and chat on a daily basis.
3) how she wished she a cell phone as she pawned hers a while ago when she needed money.
4) her mother's birthday is on July 10 and how she wished she had money to go see her for that as she lives in an another city and some money to spend on her birthday.
Wicked Roger
07-11-12, 06:36
Also, she's been hinting indirectly in all her emails at a few things that have made me raise some red flags:
1) how she wished she had a digital camera to send me more pics of her.
2) how she wished she had a laptop so we could video chat and chat on a daily basis.
3) how she wished she a cell phone as she pawned hers a while ago when she needed money.
4) her mother's birthday is on July 10 and how she wished she had money to go see her for that as she lives in an another city and some money to spend on her birthday.
Mind you, she has not asked me directly for any financial help, however, she has been repeating those in almost every one of her email since we started chatting about 2 weeks ago. In her emails, she would be extremely sweet, warm and express her unconditional love to me despite not having met her yet.
So thoughts on that gents? Once again, very much appreciated guys!Sprite.
They all say this and the easiest reply is "wait until we meet, see if we get along and then I can help possibly" This will see if she 'genuine'
As for cell phones and pawn shops. And I maybe wrongly informed here so correct me please. But I was spekaing with an old friend the other day who told me she cannot pawn her mobile in any pawn shop now as this practice has been stopped (at least in her province / town). Can't remember the reason but this is what she was telling me.
Also for cell phones I have said to cuties that I have a very basic Nokia with me (cost $25-$30) and she can have that once we meet. I do have this as I find it is fine and works in PI. She may say no as "needs a camera to take pictures" but say this is to text you so should be fine as it is a mobile and she does not have one now. Get her reaction LOL. As this also tells you about the girl. Where I live $25-30 Nokias are plentiful and I carry one as an emergency mobile in case my other phones pack up so can give to any girl (and have done so before). Some are grateful (the good ones) some moan (so you know what to do)
Another hint is to say to her that once you meet you could go to the pawn shop with her to collect it again. This sometiomes worries the cuties (for a variety of reasons!)
But the above is a common list of reasons why you should never do all that until you meet and are happy etc. And she has has directly asked you for financial help Sprite. Just in a subtle way.
Just see her and tell her it all depends on the chemistry. If she really 'serious' she will will turn up and be so nice and loving etc, if she persists with the demands then you have your answer about whether she is genuine IMHO
One was telling me how she lost her phone and has to wait until payday to get another one. She said this twice so I asked her what she did. A student by her assessment. She might have a pt job but how can she afford a phone on a pt job pay? Fishy indeed. I won't be chasing that one!
Pinays seem to like to drop hints like these. Play dumb. LOL
Mr Enternational
07-11-12, 10:01
It's only emails with this giirl? Any filipina with internet will have a web camLOL. Even they know that. Pinay busted my balls the other day for telling her I didn't have a cam:
Be: can I see you?
Mr Enternational: do not have cam remember.
Be: yesterday I just accepted it. But you know very well every pc now has a built in cam.
Be: just don't want to argue.
Mr Enternational: this one is broken so I have one I hook up to it.
Be: why not bring it you know I want to see you.
Mr Enternational: I left home 3 days ago and didn't bring it with me
Thanks guys again for the feedback. Much appreciated. I will report back on what happens either way, whether I go and meet her or not. At this time, it looks like I won't be meeting her as she made some direct request for assistance now and I replied back to her that while I might help her once I meet her, I'm not going to send her anything now as that's against my policy. I'm not really concerned about that one as I've been chatting with some delightful little things in the meantime, some which are educated and quite fun to be with. So either way, I'd have my hands full (no pun intended. LOL) when I get there that I wouldn't even noticed if the soon to be ex-wife is not in the picture. LOL.
Thanks again guys.
Cheers.
Great post WR. There was a time when some folks would suggest stopping contact with a gal who is hinting about gifts, rewards, presents, money. I seemed to be swimming against the current when I suggested that these were the types that might be successfully cultivated. As WR suggests, no reason to dump these gals. The truly evil scammers have moved way beyond begging. A gal who is just hoping that a poreigner can somehow be useful, is a gal you might want to meet with when you visit the country. X.
Ps; thanks wr for the Q contact. Wow!
Sprite.
They all say this and the easiest reply is "wait until we meet, see if we get along and then I can help possibly" This will see if she 'genuine'
As for cell phones and pawn shops. And I maybe wrongly informed here so correct me please. But I was spekaing with an old friend the other day who told me she cannot pawn her mobile in any pawn shop now as this practice has been stopped (at least in her province / town). Can't remember the reason but this is what she was telling me.
Also for cell phones I have said to cuties that I have a very basic Nokia with me (cost $25-$30) and she can have that once we meet. I do have this as I find it is fine and works in PI. She may say no as "needs a camera to take pictures" but say this is to text you so should be fine as it is a mobile and she does not have one now. Get her reaction LOL. As this also tells you about the girl. Where I live $25-30 Nokias are plentiful and I carry one as an emergency mobile in case my other phones pack up so can give to any girl (and have done so before). Some are grateful (the good ones) some moan (so you know what to do)
Another hint is to say to her that once you meet you could go to the pawn shop with her to collect it again. This sometiomes worries the cuties (for a variety of reasons!)
But the above is a common list of reasons why you should never do all that until you meet and are happy etc. And she has has directly asked you for financial help Sprite. Just in a subtle way.
Just see her and tell her it all depends on the chemistry. If she really 'serious' she will will turn up and be so nice and loving etc, if she persists with the demands then you have your answer about whether she is genuine IMHO
WestCoast1
07-17-12, 12:57
X, tried to PM you, but your inbox is full.
WC
Wicked Roger
07-17-12, 18:09
Great post WR. There was a time when some folks would suggest stopping contact with a gal who is hinting about gifts, rewards, presents, money. I seemed to be swimming against the current when I suggested that these were the types that might be successfully cultivated. As WR suggests, no reason to dump these gals. The truly evil scammers have moved way beyond begging. A gal who is just hoping that a poreigner can somehow be useful, is a gal you might want to meet with when you visit the country. X.
Ps; thanks wr for the Q contact. Wow!I would stop only if the lady was persistent and showed she could not read plain English. Then most guys would change the channel IMHO. Just need patience and a calm mind to deal with it thats all.
Sorry we missed each other X but glad you had fun, she said you were a nice guy and she is very tasty. And bisexual if that is your flavour LOL
Tasty and naughty and sexy, and a very interesting person all around. Thanks for sharing.
I would stop only if the lady was persistent and showed she could not read plain English. Then most guys would change the channel IMHO. Just need patience and a calm mind to deal with it thats all.
Sorry we missed each other X but glad you had fun, she said you were a nice guy and she is very tasty. And bisexual if that is your flavour LOL
Okay, this is going to be weird. This is a gal I've known for a long time. I met her in Cebu but she's not from Cebu. She has a professional job. I don't keep in touch much, but I've tasted her.
I don't know much about her current life, but I send her a how ru msg and I get.
Just lost my Belgian Boyfriend a week today. He was killed by a Filipino. So bad.
I'm just blown away. Any comments? Yes, I've asked for details, but this is kind of weird. I've had a lot of bad luck in PI recently. I'm not superstitious, but I'm getting weirded out. (That may be American slang. Weirded out. I feel very uncomfortable because things are getting weird)
X Man
BrainDrain
07-30-12, 11:57
Just lost my Belgian Boyfriend a week today. He was killed by a Filipino. So bad.Sounds like a really bad situation. With these weird out feelings quite often we can turn on our minds to see all the bad shit. The good stuff is out there as well.
I'm inexperienced but learning with pinay. My local pinay she lost her boyfriend to a stroke, he has paralyses ad she was never able to visit him again inhis country. When I heard that story it just sounded too cute, it all happened while she was out of the country back in Phils. My thoughts were that he just moved on, sold her a story that she couldn't dispute and without his sponsorship couldn't even get back to that country to find out.
That being said though, Phils does has lax gun laws and the Sunstar publishes regular accounts of such love triangles gone wrong.
We just don't know what lies (if any) the Pinay is telling her family.
Another thing is why would your professional friend reply with such a message. What about just replying with "things aren't good. Will tell you about it one day." Not as dramatic but also just keeps you away without the involvement.
BD
But you lied to her because you know I'm not a nice guy and then she obediently lied back to you because she knows that I'm not a nice guy. Would you kinky pair please stop ruining my reputation!
, she said you were a nice guy
Wicked Roger
07-30-12, 13:07
But you lied to her because you know I'm not a nice guy and then she obediently lied back to you because she knows that I'm not a nice guy. Would you kinky pair please stop ruining my reputation!And how can we ruin a reputation that is already ruined LOL.
But agree with the comment kinky pair.
So the comment about how horny your were was also untrue? LOL.
As for the other post, just sympathise and ask more. Then see if she asks for cash. Am always cynical when I hear this unless I really know the person very well and just tasting is not "very well" in my book
No, I've known her for years and she's never asked for anything. It turns out that the guy was a long term expat and was seperated but still married. I suspected a murder for hire, but she doesn't think so.
You go thru life asking other people how they are and it's kind of shocking when you first hear."oh, the bf got murdered, and how are you?" (my paraphrase).
As for the other post, just sympathise and ask more. Then see if she asks for cash. Am always cynical when I hear this unless I really know the person very well and just tasting is not "very well" in my book
Don't lose your cool. I personally find it humiliating to express too much sympathy, to give too much assistance, only to find that the sad story is untrue or exaggerated. In this case, exaggeration is impossible, the BF was either murdered, or he was not. If he was, confirmation, either paper or digital, should be easy to come by. It will be in the news, it will be discussed online and available by google search by name. Your choice: either listen politely to the story and then forget about it, or ask for details and seek confirmation. If the dead man were a husband or relative, she should have confirmation in the form of a death certificate--and funeral photos. However, there is no need to seek confirmation unless she has a followup, some version of "Give me money."
Okay, this is going to be weird. This is a gal I've known for a long time. I met her in Cebu but she's not from Cebu. She has a professional job. I don't keep in touch much, but I've tasted her.
I don't know much about her current life, but I send her a how ru msg and I get.
Just lost my Belgian Boyfriend a week today. He was killed by a Filipino. So bad.
I'm just blown away. Any comments? Yes, I've asked for details, but this is kind of weird. I've had a lot of bad luck in PI recently. I'm not superstitious, but I'm getting weirded out. (That may be American slang. Weirded out. I feel very uncomfortable because things are getting weird)
X Man
Check back issues of SunstarCebu (local online paper). Google it.
Cheapy
Don't lose your cool. I personally find it humiliating to express too much sympathy, to give too much assistance, only to find that the sad story is untrue or exaggerated. In this case, exaggeration is impossible, the BF was either murdered, or he was not. If he was, confirmation, either paper or digital, should be easy to come by. It will be in the news, it will be discussed online and available by google search by name. Your choice: either listen politely to the story and then forget about it, or ask for details and seek confirmation. If the dead man were a husband or relative, she should have confirmation in the form of a death certificate--and funeral photos. However, there is no need to seek confirmation unless she has a followup, some version of "Give me money."
Stroker Ace88
08-05-12, 02:01
Check back issues of SunstarCebu (local online paper). Google it.No story of a Belgian expat being murdered in Cebu posted recently. If there was such a story it would be breaking news on GMA's 24oras and ABS's TVPatrol and all over the local press.
Okay, this is going to be weird. This is a gal I've known for a long time. I met her in Cebu but she's not from Cebu. She has a professional job. I don't keep in touch much, but I've tasted her.
I don't know much about her current life, but I send her a how ru msg and I get.
Just lost my Belgian Boyfriend a week today. He was killed by a Filipino. So bad.
I'm just blown away. Any comments? Yes, I've asked for details, but this is kind of weird. I've had a lot of bad luck in PI recently. I'm not superstitious, but I'm getting weirded out. (That may be American slang. Weirded out. I feel very uncomfortable because things are getting weird) The old saying goes, be more valuable alive than dead in the Philippines.
Also there have been a few incidents where an idiot expat thought he was king s*it and put all the locals down. The kind of guy who would visit a bar in his local barangay and hit on filipinas even if they were in the company of local guys. The kind of guy that gets drunk, loud and all the locals hate him. He walks around with a target on his back and has no idea. In a country where bullets are cheap and there are so many guns it's a miracle more foreigners don't end up dead. Rant over.
Wicked Roger
08-05-12, 04:16
No story of a Belgian expat being murdered in Cebu posted recently. If there was such a story it would be breaking news on GMA's 24oras and ABS's TVPatrol and all over the local press.
The old saying goes, be more valuable alive than dead in the Philippines.
Also there have been a few incidents where an idiot expat thought he was king s*it and put all the locals down. The kind of guy who would visit a bar in his local barangay and hit on filipinas even if they were in the company of local guys. The kind of guy that gets drunk, loud and all the locals hate him. He walks around with a target on his back and has no idea. In a country where bullets are cheap and there are so many guns it's a miracle more foreigners don't end up dead. Rant over.Agree with you SA.
See this link.
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/search/google/belgan%20murder? Query=belgan%20murder&cx=002466650891154542549%3A1kyajibber0&cof=FORID%3A11&sitesearch=www.sunstar.com.ph&safe=off
No mention of any Belgian being murdered and if he was it would be front page news so I checked Google and nothing either. Cheapy post the link please
Maybe this one?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/10352561
Agree with you SA.
See this link.
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/search/google/belgan
%20murder? Query=belgan%20murder&cx=002466650891154542549%3A1kyajibber0&cof=FORID%
3A11&sitesearch=www.sunstar.com.ph&safe=off
No mention of any Belgian being murdered and if he was it would be front page news so I checked Google and nothing either. Cheapy post the link please
LukeSkywalker
09-21-12, 23:00
There are many sweet-looking young girls in Date in Asia, looking for men in the range of 18 to 80. Does this imply they will fuck for money? Are their pics accurate or mostly fakes?
I am interested in a few of the young DIA girls. But I have only a few days in the P. Is it possible to have sex with the sweet girls within the first day? If not I would just search the casa. Would find the sure things a lot quicker.
Thanks for any advise from the bros.
BrainDrain
09-22-12, 02:11
There are many sweet-looking young girls in Date in Asia, looking for men in the range of 18 to 80. Does this imply they will fuck for money? Are their pics accurate or mostly fakes?
I am interested in a few of the young DIA girls. But I have only a few days in the P. Is it possible to have sex with the sweet girls within the first day? If not I would just search the casa. Would find the sure things a lot quicker.
Thanks for any advise from the bros.There are many ladies in there that are genuinely looking for a better life through marrying a foreigner. There are also money pinay wanting to fuck for friendship and others for money. You have to put ion the time to get to know them. The forum is full of good ways to brings about the subject. I always use DIA or other site to line up a few dates.
In the Philippines and in a larger city or AC, you won't be alone for long if you just arrive.
BD
BrainDrain
09-22-12, 02:18
i love the way filipinas are so open in the way they approach life."i have to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)", etc often sharing more information than is required.
one of my 'loves' is also on my fb profile. she has recently started studying german. i also notice regular posts from a young german guy so the situation is obvious to me. she also been very happy to catch up with on my past two visits to cebu. she also up for joining me on a trip to hong kong.
so, when this morning i notice her fb relationship status has now changed to 'in a relationship" i thought it might be time for me to gracefully bow out.
i wrote her a pm to suggest this and had to laugh at her reply.
me: hi, i notice your in a relationship now. is it still ok for you to join me for overnight sex?
pinay: yes i am in a relati0nship but i am still single so its ok.
i love this crazy country and peoples.
bd
WestCoast1
09-22-12, 07:50
ME: Hi, I notice your in a relationship now. Is it still OK for you to join me for overnight sex?
PINAY: Yes I am in a relati0nship but I am still single so its ok.
I love this crazy country and peoples.
BDSame same. Never know what will come out of their mouths, or when. This pinay has been a regular manila girl for many years. She lives out towards Calamba now, and bussed in for the night. She always knows the score, one night only and waltz out with 2000. This time, right after the Sunday morning pre-church fuck, as she's heading for the shower, her phone goes off. She reads the txt and gets animated: "Sheet! My boyfriend!" WTF? You have a bf?"Yes he's at my moms house looking for me!" WTF again! You didn't mention a bf."Yes he comes to manila for his work in the weekend. He thinks I'm home to my mother now!" She was pulling her clothes on as fast as she could and telling me about it: "My mom txt me say he come home early now looking for me! I need to go!" I was hurrying to get my clothes on also. While she was in the cr flashing some makeup on her face I asked why she didn't mention her bf to me before coming to me for sex: "Secret! Haha. Also I like fucking." We walked a few blocks to the RT and she filled me in about her bf."You look at my FB you will see."
She left at 8:30am, just after sex, with no shower. I'm sure she was back in his arms an hour later trying to explain where she was. Wonder if she bothered showering or brushing her teeth. Long live the filipina.
BrainDrain
09-22-12, 08:35
She reads the txt and gets animated: "Sheet! My boyfriend!" WTF? You have a bf?"Yes he's at my moms house looking for me!" WTF again! You didn't mention a bf."Yes he comes to manila for his work in the weekend. He thinks I'm home to my mother now!" She was pulling her clothes on as fast as she could and telling me about it: "Wow.amazing story. Bet that was fun. I often find that they are busy on their text msg towards the end of a catchup. Presumably lining up the next or smoothing over the bf.
I just assume they all have a boyfriend.
I assume that the ladies that I meet and are happy to be in bed within 30-60 minutes of meeting a stranger for foods / chat also meet other foreign men.
I assume any pinay over 25 has one child at least.
I know assumptions are not always good, it's just my starting point.
I don't like talking about their bf or other mongers though.
BD
I think 18 to 80 is the default setting. First meeting coitus is certainly possible, but since you have a short holiday, you might want to make sure in your communication with her.
There are many sweet-looking young girls in Date in Asia, looking for men in the range of 18 to 80. Does this imply they will fuck for money? Are their pics accurate or mostly fakes?
I am interested in a few of the young DIA girls. But I have only a few days in the P. Is it possible to have sex with the sweet girls within the first day? If not I would just search the casa. Would find the sure things a lot quicker.
Thanks for any advise from the bros.
Nice Guy 99
09-22-12, 19:12
There are many sweet-looking young girls in Date in Asia, looking for men in the range of 18 to 80. Does this imply they will fuck for money? Are their pics accurate or mostly fakes?
I am interested in a few of the young DIA girls. But I have only a few days in the P. Is it possible to have sex with the sweet girls within the first day? If not I would just search the casa. Would find the sure things a lot quicker.
Thanks for any advise from the bros.Luke, I've only been working DIA for the Manila area for a couple of months but haven't found any fake pics as yet. I've been searching the 18-21 age range and eliminating any who do not Have the age range up to 80 or who have long write ups about finding their one and only. I message them making it clear I pass through Makati on business, provide some assurances about being respectful and a nice guy, and say I'd like to get to know them better. If you can get an early switch to FB or Skype you can check them out better. Somewhere in the first few exchanges I say I hate to sleep alone and I'd like to meet them. Most agree. On my one trip a few weeks ago all who previously agreed to meet me showed up at my hotel room and were ready to at least do BBBJ and conventional sex (save one who was on period). No pretext of a "date" or shopping trip, just sex.
They are far from hard core WGs and seem to me to be poor school girls or stay at home girls, often single mothers, and just needing some extra money. Sounds too good to be true but so far it is true. I'm ready for my next trip with an upgraded list of candidates
i love the way filipinas are so open in the way they approach life."i have to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)", etc often sharing more information than is required.
one of my 'loves' is also on my fb profile. she has recently started studying german. i also notice regular posts from a young german guy so the situation is obvious to me. she also been very happy to catch up with on my past two visits to cebu. she also up for joining me on a trip to hong kong.
so, when this morning i notice her fb relationship status has now changed to 'in a relationship" i thought it might be time for me to gracefully bow out.
i wrote her a pm to suggest this and had to laugh at her reply.
me: hi, i notice your in a relationship now. is it still ok for you to join me for overnight sex?
pinay: yes i am in a relati0nship but i am still single so its ok.
i love this crazy country and peoples.
bdi had a dia girl 19 year old from samar living in manila. we chatted quite a bit and she met me and had great fun. stayed together for a week. very sweet girl with big boobs and loves to wake up with me sucking and playing with her boobs. i did post her pic in the gallery.
few days before i came to manila her fb said in relationship.
she said one foreign guy told her he is coming and staying in pgi for a couple of months and want to live in samar with her. naturally she agreed. obviously he was sending her money. so he asked her to change her profile in fb.
amazing how some people think? do they think just because her profile says in a relationship she is not screwing around and all guys will stay away from her?
irrespective how naieve these girls look they know the ways of the world. i have had one girl get on top of me and humping me while she was talking to her foreign " bf " and put the phone near my ear while he was talking. when the guy asked why she wants to end the conversation she said she is working at home. oh boy, she was really working!
so for people who think these girls will keep their pussy unopened till he comes once a while think again. ofcourse they always say they are good christian girls and in love. blah-blah-blah.
I had a DIA girl 19 year old from Samar living in Manila. We chatted quite a bit and she met me and had great fun. Stayed together for a week. Very sweet girl with big boobs and loves to wake up with me sucking and playing with her boobs. I did post her pic in the gallery.
Few days before I came to Manila her FB said in relationship.
She said one foreign guy told her he is coming and staying in Pgi for a couple of months and want to live in Samar with her. Naturally she agreed. Obviously he was sending her money. So he asked her to change her profile in FB.
Amazing how some people think? Do they think just because her profile says in a relationship she is not screwing around and all guys will stay away from her?
Irrespective how naieve these girls look they know the ways of the world. I have had one girl get on top of me and humping me while she was talking to her foreign " BF " and put the phone near my ear while he was talking. When the guy asked why she wants to end the conversation she said she is working at home. Oh boy, she was really working!
So for people who think these girls will keep their pussy unopened till he comes once a while think again. Ofcourse they always say they are good christian girls and in love. Blah-blah-blah.A dia girl you say, so when I said most dia girls are sexing other men in the online thread I was wrong but here under this tread your saying the girls are playing guys?
1. I guess you meet only the prostitutes on DIA. There are other regular girls who may not like you. Yes, they do open their legs if they like the man. It is normal unless they happen to be virgins. If they are they would be selective. Yes, they do like money and gifts. Which girls in the whole world who do not like money and gifts from somebody they like?
But at the same time they will not open their legs to any tom, dick and harry who comes along.
2. I doubt very much you can have sex 9 times a day every day. Everybody gets burned out and seeing your pics you are not a young stud. Normal is maybe 2-3 times a day and that too requires few days in between rest.
I have done 9 times a day and can keep it like that maybe max 3 days and it is only if the girl really is horny and I really get turned on by her. This too requires to pop a pill every day.
After doing that when I come back home do not feel like even looking at a girl for a while.
LukeSkywalker
09-23-12, 01:26
Many DIA girls look very sweet. On top of that Pinays can speak English, and their manners are somewhat Westernized. Their companies are indeed sweeter than other countries.
I will follow the lead of Nice Guy 69 for sure hehehe. .
If all else fails, back to the casas I go.
In addition to Manila, will also have to try to fit in a few days diving at the reefs and at the Y in Cebu. Hehe.
Life is so sweet. .
Luke, I've only been working DIA for the Manila area for a couple of months but haven't found any fake pics as yet. I've been searching the 18-21 age range and eliminating any who do not Have the age range up to 80 or who have long write ups about finding their one and only. I message them making it clear I pass through Makati on business, provide some assurances about being respectful and a nice guy, and say I'd like to get to know them better. If you can get an early switch to FB or Skype you can check them out better. Somewhere in the first few exchanges I say I hate to sleep alone and I'd like to meet them. Most agree. On my one trip a few weeks ago all who previously agreed to meet me showed up at my hotel room and were ready to at least do BBBJ and conventional sex (save one who was on period). No pretext of a "date" or shopping trip, just sex.
They are far from hard core WGs and seem to me to be poor school girls or stay at home girls, often single mothers, and just needing some extra money. Sounds too good to be true but so far it is true. I'm ready for my next trip with an upgraded list of candidates
A dia girl you say, so when I said most dia girls are sexing other men in the online thread I was wrong but here under this tread your saying the girls are playing guys?There are many good girls also. You said all the DIA girls are prostitutes. So IMHO dating and screwing a guy here and there does not make them prostitutes.
There are many good girls also. You said all the DIA girls are prostitutes. So IMHO dating and screwing a guy here and there does not make them prostitutes.Agree with you. If dating and screwing once in a while made a woman a prostitute, America would have about 95% of its women labeled as such.
BrainDrain
09-23-12, 08:58
Amazing how some people think? Do they think just because her profile says in a relationship she is not screwing around and all guys will stay away from her?Case in point this weekend. One little pinay that I count as my gf is in a relationship on FB. Didn't stop her asking for money and following up with "I kn0w but I'm really in need n0w, my m0ney fr0m my bf will be send 1st of October.
So, not only are they happy to fuck multiple boyfriends also happy to have multiple income streams.
Mr Enternational
09-23-12, 10:04
So IMHO dating and screwing a guy here and there does not make them prostitutes.Correct. Only if said guys give them money after screwing makes them prostitutes.
Is Mr. Entern being sarcastic or cynical? I really don't know.
I don't like to label people and I have to agree that F3's post about DIA was an overgeneralization. How would you draw the line? I don't think a dictionary definition solves the problem. What a woman does with her body his her business, and I think history if full of old people, often men, telling other people what they can or cannot do.
I have a very interesting book that suggests that the women usually labeled as "prostitutes" are stigmatized because women. Yes WOMEN, feel that the "prosti2" are giving away the goods too cheaply. Much better to get the ring, the legal contract. Does that make sense to anyone here on the ISG boards. LOL!
What is alimony? Paying a prostitute (aka ex-wife) unreasonable amounts because you married her? Maybe I'm thinking too much. If you feel incredibly offended by this post, please pm me the worst of your vitrol. I promise to respond. X.
Correct. Only if said guys give them money after screwing makes them prostitutes.
Wolvenvacht
09-23-12, 12:20
Amazing how some people think? Do they think just because her profile says in a relationship she is not screwing around and all guys will stay away from her?It goes both ways.
I had a profile on DIA and once I found my love there, I changed my profile stating that fact and saying I was no longer interested in finding a new friend.
Do you think I got less messages? If anthing the number of "interests" and messages only increased.
BrainDrain
09-27-12, 22:53
In another thread there is discussion about prenups and the number of failed Filipina marriages when they are brought back into the west.
Does that mean there is an after market in our home countries that we aren't taking advantage of? Where are all these newly divorced pinay with their financial settlements?
Are they damaged property or looking for loove?
BD
Mr Enternational
09-28-12, 06:02
It goes both ways.
I had a profile on DIA and once I found my love there, I changed my profile stating that fact and saying I was no longer interested in finding a new friend.
Do you think I got less messages? If anthing the number of "interests" and messages only increased.Yeah. Probably because nobody reads the profiles. At least of all this guy right here doesn't. No time for that bullshit. It's a numbers game so no need to be meticulous with the small details which probably aren't real anyway. For guys it's more like how do you look and can you come over? For girls it's all can you give me money?
Prostittutes on dia, I said most are as they are asking for money or they have some one else paying them for sex, just because you can get free sex on dia does not exempt my view, it confirms that some one is paying them so they can get online and meet you.
This is based on what I know living here, most visitors will beleive the lies the girls tell them. I also base my view on the girls I meet and ask the ones online are often the same prostitutes working as freelancers, the ones who have no dia have serial bf not parallel.
Sure if you want to think some rich girls are horny for foriegn cock enjoy, but the only non prostitutes I know on dia are almost virgins and will not sex unless you put a ring on them. ( the ring can also be sponsorship but rember where you found her)
BD, anything is possible!
There used to be US bases in the Philippines and more than a few US military guys brought home Filipina wives. I used to live near National city just south of San Diego and adjacent to 32nd street Naval base. When the ships went away, the gals would play. When ships deployed to Asia, it was called a WestPac (Western Pacific). We had a name for the Filipinas in the dance clubs. Westpac widows. I had a lot of fun, but I was just a young buck in those days.
I think the largest populations of Filipinos in the US are in the San Diego and Norfolk areas. Where the largest US Naval facilities are.
I personally like to tap the mother lode.
In another thread there is discussion about prenups and the number of failed Filipina marriages when they are brought back into the west.
Does that mean there is an after market in our home countries that we aren't taking advantage of? Where are all these newly divorced pinay with their financial settlements?
Are they damaged property or looking for loove?
BD
Does that mean there is an after market in our home countries that we aren't taking advantage of? Where are all these newly divorced pinay with their financial settlements?They are either now shacked up with guys closer to their age (because they ditched the old sugar daddy once they reached their target country and found a lot of younger guys hitting on them)
OR.
They have returned to the PI with their freshly loaded bank accounts and building (or have built) a fancy house in the province with 1/5th of the proceeds and are busily squandering the other 80% on family outings to Jolibee, new expensive phones / TVs / videoke machines etc etc.
OR.
A minority will be planning a nest egg in order to live happily ever after (This latter group is probably quite small but does exist)
Mr Enternational
09-28-12, 10:32
BD, anything is possible!
There used to be US bases in the Philippines and more than a few US military guys brought home Filipina wives. I used to live near National city just south of San Diego and adjacent to 32nd street Naval base. When the ships went away, the gals would play. When ships deployed to Asia, it was called a WestPac (Western Pacific). We had a name for the Filipinas in the dance clubs. Westpac widows. I had a lot of fun, but I was just a young buck in those days.
I think the largest populations of Filipinos in the US are in the San Diego and Norfolk areas. Where the largest US Naval facilities are.
I personally like to tap the mother lode.You are bringing back memories now brother. I was at the Sub Base in Point Loma. This was 1990-91. National City: Trophy Lounge. Wednesdays $1 drink night. Saturdays were the shit too. The Westpac Widows were out in full effect. I got my first traffic ticket there. I was driving a ship mate's Saab and parked right in front of the door. Cop came up behind me and gave me a ticket for parking over 18 inches from the curb. What kind of shit is that? I hadn't even stopped moving the vehicle yet. Haha. Still got the ticket in my scrap book - along with pictures of all the pinays I was banging back then!
I had another memorable Pinay when I was in Jacksonville. I remember sneaking into the enlisted club and meeting this chick. While her husband was deployed she would cook and bring me food to the BOQ everyday along with my favorite desert - her pussy. I miss those days, but there is no going back to them.
those who have read my previous posts know that i trawl the dating sites, i avoid p4p, and i refuse to meet girls anywhere other than my apartment. i get off on having girls choose to do things, such as coming to an unknown man's condo for anonymous sex, that aren't conventional and safe. i've found that by getting her to break barriers and in doing so trust me i can get her to push other limits too. an example is the soon-to-be married girl who loves rough sex, dirty talk, and being called the "w-word" (that can't be published here) and "s-word". her fiance has no knowledge of her turn ons because she wants him to believe she is a good girl. poor guy. she's a friggin' firecracker.
anyway, anal is a taboo and thus it's one i want a girl to check off her sexual bucket list. after a few months of limited success (many girls earlier had unpleasant experiences with other guys who were wildly jamming their fingers and cocks into their tokhis) i made a few observations that increased my success a bit. then i came across an article written by a female sex blogger for her female readers. i don't recall her name, but i've followed her steps to resounding success. initially i started with girls i met a few times, ones who had earlier told me "no anal", and now i'm doing so to girls on the very first meeting.
obviously the key is to gauge her reactions to each step. go slow and be reassuring. anal should be performed later in the session, after she's already cum a few times and she's yours.
whilst performing cunnilingus begin to tickle her sphincter with your tongue and lips. do so briefing, return to her vagina, and then back to her asshole for a longer go. continue this back and forth for a while. those receptive to ass play will get off on this. louder moans, etc. this is an important green light. return your mouth to her vagina and simultaneously use a finger to slowly circle her ass. she'll likely clench it, but as you massage it with those circles it'll loosen. apply a large dollop of ky to her ass and go very slow before entering her. when you do make sure it's just the tip. keep using the circular massage motion. slowly, like a corkscrew, probe a bit deeper and deeper. you want her ass to become comfortable and more importantly to her mind you're showing care. once two joints in begin to the thrusting by pulling back and then in, to the second joint. continue slowly back and forth until the entire finger can be inserted. introduce a second finger. return to the circular massage corkscrewing in, and then slowly thrusting. most women get off on the feeling of fullness. i mention this quite a bit as a double finger fuck her ass. now it's show time. i tell her straight up: "now i'm going to fuck your ass. i'll do so slowly and gently, and you're going to love it." lube your cock very well. i prefer the doggie position, but with her head on the bed. head down, ass up that's the way i like to fuck. i tell her to put her hands on her ass cheeks and spread 'them. this position makes it impossible for her to scurry away. slowly i insert my cock. not even half the head. she'll be in pain. reassure her. allow her ass to dilate a bit and then glide in the rest of your head. pause. push in a bit more. pause. repeat. once in 2 or 3 inches begin to withdraw and then slowly thrust in back to 3 inches. you'll want to work this a long while, gradually going in deeper, before you have your entire cock in her. then over time increase the speed. let her know that you'll be pounding her ass hard when she's ready to give you the green light. she will.
all of those i've ass fucked say they loved it. sure it hurt, but not horribly so. and they've all wanted it repeated.
three days later you just may get this text: "i still feel your cock in my ass."
much better to get the ring, the legal contract. does that make sense to anyone here on the isg boards.a good friend of mine who is divorced and raised 4 kids on his own says the only reason to get married is to raise a family. but be careful what you ask for. he might be right. all broads except maybe ****s are socio-economically driven. they all marry for money. this is driven into their heads at a young age. hence, they are all prostitutes. we all pay for it one way or another.
Avioneto123
08-17-13, 09:51
I did it 23 years ago and I have regretted since day one. I have been unfaithful so many times, that I lost count. I am still marry but everytime I am able to sneak out (meaning going scuba diving in Sabang, Oriental Mindoro) I don't only look at the fish in their habitat but I do some deep diving in some crevices that I find on the road. Unless you are really in love, don't ever marry a Filipina. By the way, my wife is wonderful and beautiful, and I guess, I couldn't have foud anything better than her. She has puttted up with all my BS for so long that I might heve to build her a castle. Now to the point:
1) Filipinas are very inmature. They wiill give you the silent treatment soon. Suddenly you are in a conversation, and by mistake you said the wrong thing, Praise the lord as you will see a change in her face, and you know you are screw. It is like the devil went inside her body. Close to salivating from the mouth like the girl in the exorcist.
2) Always agree with their choices, and then, disagree. Honey, do you like this dress. Yes I do, but I look fat, don't wory honey you look good, are you sure, well. How about that other one, ok.
3) I love your family and they love me. Crapp. Her family could care less about you. It is an illusion. I have lived the experince, and they do not give a damn about me. They just put out with me because they have to.
4) Lies, lies, lies. Not with my wife but with my GFs. Oh, they lie so much, that I have to get rid of some of them. Like I ran out of batt on my call phone (the one I bought for them) , my uncle is dying, my mother is having surgery, I got laid off.
Just a few things about Filipinas. I love them, and I could not live with out them. Cheets
WestCoast1
08-18-13, 06:52
Just a few things about Filipinas. I love them, and I could not live with out them. CheetsThat about sums it up.
Well... Hmmm, here to begin.
I guess with the bombshell.
Her: Baby, I have herpes :'(.
Me: What? How do you know?
Her: I have the bumps on my pussy. I looked on the Internet and the bumps are the same as herpes.
A little background. E is a 23-year-old real estate agent I met on FC several months ago, and we've been meeting regularly. I know for certain she bangs other guys from FC because she tells me everything about their meetings.
I went to hospital and was tested for the following:
1) herpes v 1 & 2.
2) chlamydia.
3) syphilis.
4) gonorrhea.
5) HIV.
E went to a clinic and was only tested for HIV. For reasons I still don't understand she decided not to be tested for anything else.
I received my results a week later (the habagat + the holiday closed the doctor's office). I tested positive for gonorrhea (I was asymptomatic) and was given an injection. Immediately I informed E that she needed at the very least to be given the same injection but ought to be thoroughly tested. She stated that her Aussie boyfriend was in town for 6 days, that she had to meet him, and would seek medical attention after he left, which was today. I urged her to see a doctor on Boracay to get the shot but she rejected this.
Now this is just one person, but she's uni educated and has a good noggin on her shoulders for the most part. In her defense I feel it is fair to her to mention she did alert me of her condition. When the doctor was examining me she asked whether the girl who notified me she had herpes was Filipina or foreign."Filipina", I said."You're lucky. Filipinas rarely do so." It's one thing to behave recklessly when ignorant of the issue (Lord knows I do so) ; I just don't understand the utter disregard for herself and her boyfriend. Is this common amongst Filipinas?
Soapy Smith
09-02-13, 07:52
I just don't understand the utter disregard for herself and her boyfriend. Is this common amongst Filipinas?My sense is that most of the Filipinas that ISG types encounter are either partially ignorant about STIs and / or don't feel they can afford to get treated or tested as a routine.
For university-educated women we might expect a different level of awareness and precaution. But just reread the first two sentences of your post in this thread from April 6th. It seems like you may be experiencing a selection bias for risk-taking that's related to your preferences in the kind of women and experiences you pursue.
Econo Tech
09-03-13, 03:05
When the doctor was examining me she asked whether the girl who notified me she had herpes was Filipina or foreign."Filipina", I said."You're lucky. Filipinas rarely do so." It's one thing to behave recklessly when ignorant of the issue (Lord knows I do so) ; I just don't understand the utter disregard for herself and her boyfriend. Is this common amongst Filipinas?From my experience, with more affairs with non-working girls, Filipinas worry more about pregnancy than STIs, hence the doctor's comment.
My forays include a few nurses, when we went bare back, they were fretting over pregnancy than anything.
As for disregard for her BF, well, let me put it this way: she may have set her eyes on her BF as marriage material, and why would she want to fuck it up by telling him that she carries STI? After all, it may a deal breaker if the guy finds out she is a bit open-minded?
Don't fret over it too much. LOL.
I did it 23 years ago and I have regretted since day one. I have been unfaithful so many times, that I lost count. I am still marry but everytime I am able to sneak out (meaning going scuba diving in Sabang, Oriental Mindoro) I don't only look at the fish in their habitat but I do some deep diving in some crevices that I find on the road. Unless you are really in love, don't ever marry a Filipina. By the way, my wife is wonderful and beautiful, and I guess, I couldn't have foud anything better than her. She has puttted up with all my BS for so long that I might heve to build her a castle. Now to the point:
1) Filipinas are very inmature. They wiill give you the silent treatment soon. Suddenly you are in a conversation, and by mistake you said the wrong thing, Praise the lord as you will see a change in her face, and you know you are screw. It is like the devil went inside her body. Close to salivating from the mouth like the girl in the exorcist...Its as if we live the same lifestyle and pretty much sums it up for me. The silent treatment (tampo) still happens to me from time to time.
Nice post, made me smile.
Its as if we live the same lifestyle and pretty much sums it up for me. The silent treatment (tampo) still happens to me from time to time.
Nice post, made me smile.My buddy married a Filipina, put her through nursing school in the USA and he has to put up with this, too, and whole bunch of other bullshit. She sends approximately one-third of her pay back to her moocher relatives in the PI. Makes me think twice about getting married although arguably Filipinas are better than anything else on the planet when it comes to sex and motherhood. Buyer beware!
As for disregard for her BF, well, let me put it this way: she may have set her eyes on her BF as marriage material, and why would she want to fuck it up by telling him that she carries STI? After all, it may a deal breaker if the guy finds out she is a bit open-minded?She didn't tell him. And he picked up the clap - poor sod is married too. Sent her a text complaining of burning during urination, and she fessed up. Anyway, the girl finally got the shot and boy did she howl. For hours. Having gotten it myself it is one of the more painful injections I've ever had. The girl thought it was a vaccine, so I quickly informed her she certainly can pick up gonorrhea again, it'll be another shot, and another day of misery. That'll dissuade her. For a week or two.
But just reread the first two sentences of your post in this thread from April 6th. It seems like you may be experiencing a selection bias for risk-taking that's related to your preferences in the kind of women and experiences you pursue.Agreed. I know this girl is highly active and loves having multiple partners. As am I.
Here's the bizarre thing: so far I've hooked up with three doctors and not a one of them ever mentioned condoms. One doc even excitedly performs ass-to-mouth each time we meet. Not even a moment's hesitation as I mounted them unsheathed. Of all the girls I've met here in 50 weeks only one was adamant that condoms had to be used; she's a 4th-year uni student who is quite active with multiple partners.
My most gracious thanks to anyone that has contributed to this thread. It has filled a very boring night in Saudi Arabia. I've genuinely spent the last couple of hours reading through, laughing out loud in places and in others sharing the pain. I think the fact this thread exists shows appreciation for how much trouble Filipina's can be, but also how they are sometimes worth the effort.
My most serious relationship with a Fili did not go that well if I'm honest. We were together for a year but for that entire year I was unknowingly the other man. She even got engaged to him while we were together and (as I found out much later) her daughter calls him Papa. No idea how she thought her lies would one day not come crashing down on her, but eventually they did. My only solace is that I have the moral high ground as she knows nothing of all the times I cheated on her. Hahaha. I saw plenty of signs but ignored them for the easy life and the lack of her childlike moods. Something many others seem to have been on the end of.
Started to see a new Fili last month. The signs of craziness have been showing from week one, but I guess you could say I'm now an addict.
Good luck guys.
Econo Tech
09-04-13, 04:15
Started to see a new Fili last month. The signs of craziness have been showing from week one, but I guess you could say I'm now an addict.
Good luck guys.Yah, me too. The first cut was the deepest. Even though she was double timing me and I took it very hard. And I learnt.
Now, like recently, I was trying hard not to laugh out loud. When I heard a friend crying pretty bad, that his GF, the GF he got to Singapore on a Pass, and was being given monthly allowance etc. Went to HK to meet her 'ate' and there, met and married another guy, all within a week, while in HK. And all she had to tell the guy in SG was, the HK guy "Proposed, and she couldn't say no."
Just imagine, living together for 3 years, and she ditched the guy in a moments notice to another guy who proposed.
Here's the bizarre thing: so far I've hooked up with three doctors and not a one of them ever mentioned condoms. One doc even excitedly performs ass-to-mouth each time we meet. Not even a moment's hesitation as I mounted them unsheathed. Of all the girls I've met here in 50 weeks only one was adamant that condoms had to be used; she's a 4th-year uni student who is quite active with multiple partners.Yah, me too met a doctor, and a Gynae of all things, and the first date, we screwed each other like hell. Condom? What condom. She only demanded I marry her if she got pregnant.
And then she also casually mentioned that she has a tough time believing the GROs in Pampanga coming to their home town with all forms of STI. And she was like "How would gros catch any STIs?"
I knew by then to preserve my silence.
No, you don't have the moral high ground because you cheated on her many times. What you have, perhaps, is the last laugh.
My most gracious thanks to anyone that has contributed to this thread. It has filled a very boring night in Saudi Arabia. I've genuinely spent the last couple of hours reading through, laughing out loud in places and in others sharing the pain. I think the fact this thread exists shows appreciation for how much trouble Filipina's can be, but also how they are sometimes worth the effort.
My most serious relationship with a Fili did not go that well if I'm honest. We were together for a year but for that entire year I was unknowingly the other man. She even got engaged to him while we were together and (as I found out much later) her daughter calls him Papa. No idea how she thought her lies would one day not come crashing down on her, but eventually they did. My only solace is that I have the moral high ground as she knows nothing of all the times I cheated on her. Hahaha. I saw plenty of signs but ignored them for the easy life and the lack of her childlike moods. Something many others seem to have been on the end of.
Started to see a new Fili last month. The signs of craziness have been showing from week one, but I guess you could say I'm now an addict.
Good luck guys.
No, you don't have the moral high ground because you cheated on her many times. What you have, perhaps, is the last laugh.From her point of view I have the high ground. She'll always know how much she 'hurt' me and never know how many times I could have 'hurt' her.
Yah, me too. The first cut was the deepest. Even though she was double timing me and I took it very hard. And I learnt.
Now, like recently, I was trying hard not to laugh out loud. When I heard a friend crying pretty bad, that his GF, the GF he got to Singapore on a Pass, and was being given monthly allowance etc. Went to HK to meet her 'ate' and there, met and married another guy, all within a week, while in HK. And all she had to tell the guy in SG was, the HK guy "Proposed, and she couldn't say no."
Just imagine, living together for 3 years, and she ditched the guy in a moments notice to another guy who proposed.It doesn't surprise me one bit. My ex had an ex husband who she met online and married within a couple of weeks. The other guy doesn't know about him or me as far as I'm aware. She still messaged him for duration of her marriage and while seeing me. I could tell him but I'm just not that sort of person, he might be really happy. When she wasn't being an insane Fili she made me happy. Haha.
The ex husband was driven insane by her behaviour, got violent and that's why they are divorced (her version of events obviously). I saw some of mails he sent her, including ones where he threatened to have her family killed. He's even remarried and had a kid with a thai girl, so she must have really done a number on him to have such a negative affect. I think she showed me the mails to try and show that she was a good girl and it was him that was crazy. Ever wish you could go back and live the moment from the future perspective? I can look back and laugh now.
Streetlooker
09-06-13, 19:59
Its amazing what goes thru the head of them little cute creatures we love so much. One time I was with a girl who insisted she could not get pregnant by her boyfriend cause he was like 57 yrs old and we argued over that for a whole night. Well I left went back to my home and sure enough she got pregnant by him. I sometimes got to remember they are just not informed with correct facts or knowledge of things like that and go by hearsay all the time. My friend tell me its true even if we all know its not. Got to love them
As for disregard for her BF, well, let me put it this way: she may have set her eyes on her BF as marriage material, and why would she want to fuck it up by telling him that she carries STI? After all, it may a deal breaker if the guy finds out she is a bit open-minded?An update: my gonorrhea "girlfriend" was receiving p50000 a month from the Aussie to buy her abstinence and loyalty. And in the many months of his absence from the Philppines she went on a wild tear; she is insatiable. The fall out of course is his patronage has now ceased. Had she acted immediately upon learning she had the clap the chump may have been none the wiser and she may have saved her allowance. She could never explain to me why she dilly dallied; I know she is phobic of needles and I had to practically strong arm her to get the injection, so perhaps that's a reason. She told me she found him annoying, and she's non-confrontational, so maybe it was her way of dumping him if he was infected. Could be she was hoping he'd take this souvenir home to Aussiestan and pass it on to his wife, thereby ending his marriage and casting aside her rival. Who knows? Certainly not me. She is remarkably forthcoming about her actions, but is quite reticent in explaining her thoughts and motivations.
She was selling real estate for MegaWorld; she has since been sacked for failing to meet the sales quota. Once she started receiving her monthly allowance she lost motivation to work, instead focusing her time and effort on satiating her carnal desires. I reckon her sponsor thought he was being supportive, but I believe this financed her undoing. She has now found a new sponsor (not me) and lives in his house with his girlfriend whilst he resides overseas. She carries on as before.
Though I've contemplated it, I've never been one to provide an allowance to a girl, and this experience redoubles my belief that it's folly to do so.
Though I've contemplated it, I've never been one to provide an allowance to a girl, and this experience redoubles my belief that it's folly to do so.Keep up the resistance Huts.
An allowance to keep her at home will simply not work, especially if she has enjoyed male attention from many and varied suitors in the past.
The only way it might work is if you are living together, but even then the relationship will be strained, especially if she insists on going out regularly with her barkada mates.
Just this week I met one of my sweet friends for our occasional 3 hour "snack session". She told me that she now had a British boyfren who was sending her 20, 000 php every month to keep her away from her usual haunts. I told her I was sorry that we couldn't meet any more and she just laughed and said that it's Ok for us to keep meeting but we cannot meet whenever he is here in Manila.
To her sweet little amoral mind, it is all very simple.
To her sweet little amoral mind, it is all very simple.Initially it is fascinating to try to figure them out, but if one digs too long ultimately it's a descent to madness I fear.
Here's another one. I have a friend of about 10 months who works in Boracay at a well-known 5-star hotel. She's been looking for a job overseas, so has been flying to Manila every so often for interviews. Since our first two meetings she met a young German on holiday in Boracay and fell in love. He returned home and they're skyping everyday. Yet she continues to sleep with me because she knew me before she knew him, so "it's okay". Fine by me. And just to further muddy the waters she later met a Quebecois, also on holiday and after her German love, who she screwed but "it's okay because he wore a condom". Brilliant!
Some have said these girls are illogical, but there is a logic: I'm going to do anything I darn well please and I'm cool with holding numerous yet contradictory rationalisations, if fact I may not even be aware I'm doing so.
Man, I wish I could compartmentalize like a Filipina.
A few weeks ago there was a news story about protest lodged by the Philippine ambassador to the US to some law enforcement official in Iowa who, when giving a presentation about the impact of culture on polygraph results, stated that Filipinos are tough to evaluate. I'd love to get my hands on that study. I wonder how many polygraph machines have gone kaput during the course of interviews.
Wicked Roger
09-12-13, 11:11
Just this week I met one of my sweet friends for our occasional 3 hour "snack session". She told me that she now had a British boyfren who was sending her 20, 000 php every month to keep her away from her usual haunts. I told her I was sorry that we couldn't meet any more and she just laughed and said that it's Ok for us to keep meeting but we cannot meet whenever he is here in Manila.
To her sweet little amoral mind, it is all very simple.Then there a cutie in Cebu who has an Aussie boyfriend who is trying to get her to visit him in Oz this year. Hours before he arrived we were lying in bed discussing his arrival and where they would go (I even said if I saw her on the plane to KL I would say hi just in case he is the jealous type. He is trust me!).
During his stay she was 'faithful'. As she said,"he is my boyfriend and I should be loyal WR". When he was at Mactan 10 days later on his way home she text me and asked if she could come around. Clearly devastated by his departure and needing someone to comfort her and dab her tearful eyes LOL.
The Aussie sends her cash each month etc. His main issue is a very hot looking 21 year old pinay being with him in Australia. As while he works she will be alone with his mates all gagging for a piece. I have explained this to her and she finds it exciting.
She carries on as before.I forgot to add that at the same time she was meeting me she was also screwing an Italian who lives here so I'll deduce he's infected, too. She tells me he won't go to the doctor to get checked. Looking in my crystal ball I see her being reinfected, and given her aversion to seek treatment unless dragged to hospital, she'll then pass this on to her new sponsor and his girlfriend - my gonorrhea "girlfriend" was brought into their home because she fully engages in threesomes.
Chocha Monger
09-13-13, 03:35
There are too many tricks and hookers on DateInAsia and Filipino Cupid now. These dating sites are nothing more than virtual trading venues for pussy and ass. Just like Wall Street you have scammers, lady-boys, and undercover hookers playing the Bernie Madoff role in an attempt to fleece foreign guys. The waters are muddy and filled with catfish. Unless you have a lot of time to waste screening out the crap it's much better to use a service that makes sure the girls are real and who they say they are. It's not as cheap as using the low budget sites that every sex tourist looking for a freebie signs up on but you can be sure you're not talking to a gay dude pretending to be some hot young fuck meat. Take for example this site http://bebotsonly.com/index.php?page=View%20Bebot%20Pictures.
It provides select meats for a very reasonable fee of about $30 monthly. I know that is some guys' entire budget for lodging for a week but others regularly stay at the Shangri-La and may decide it's worth their while to avoid the usual shenanigans associated with the regular sites.
Nice Guy 99
09-13-13, 09:07
There are too many tricks and hookers on DateInAsia and Filipino Cupid now. These dating sites are nothing more than virtual trading venues for pussy and ass. Just like Wall Street you have scammers, lady-boys, and undercover hookers playing the Bernie Madoff role in an attempt to fleece foreign guys. . I know that is some guys' entire budget for lodging for a week but others regularly stay at the Shangri-La and may decide it's worth their while to avoid the usual shenanigans associated with the regular sites.Ahhh but CM,"shenanigans" are part of the fun.
take for example this site.
http://bebotsonly.com/index.php?page=view
%20bebot%20pictures.i've seen that bebots site before, and for a reason to be mentioned shortly, i felt it didn't merit a mention here. the pictures show some real beauties. i came across some bebots videos on youtube that show the courting process. i recall after your lunch meeting then you take the girl shopping for clothes, shoes and bags. the climax is when you take her to the grocery store to buy food for her family. 10 tins of argentina brand corned beef - there's a happy ending.
if i correctly understand the videos i've seen the site owner will act as your proxy and take the girl on a date + shopping on your dime whilst your sit in your homeland slogging away at a job to save up for your philippines trip. f*cking altruistic of him. me thinks he discovered a niche where he gets the date (and perhaps the post-date fun) and you get the bill. if indeed this is the case... hats off to him.
have you used the service?
rule #2 of the roe states... drum roll please... there is no sex before marriage. yippee! just what we're looking for. :p
i doubt it is enforceable, but if the girl complains to the admin that her suitor is pressuring her for some adult fun after the days at the restaurants, malls, and grocery stores what could happen? banned account? the rule says: " any ladies discovered violating this code will be removed with extreme prejudice." that's not just your ordinary run-of the-mill prejudice. but extreme prejudice. you reckon he has his own personal death squad?
BrainDrain
09-14-13, 06:06
Its amazing what goes thru the head of them little cute creatures we love so much. One time I was with a girl who insisted she could not get pregnant by her boyfriend cause he was like 57 yrs old and we argued over that for a whole night. Well I left went back to my home and sure enough she got pregnant by him. I sometimes got to remember they are just not informed with correct facts or knowledge of things like that and go by hearsay all the time. My friend tell me its true even if we all know its not. Got to love themI have ventured into numerous discussions about birth control and disease prevention. They never seem to make sense for the pinay. I just always use a condom.
I have ventured into numerous discussions about birth control and disease prevention. They never seem to make sense for the pinay. I just always use a condom.I always use condom but I'm still debating whether its safe to lick her down there or not.
Any comments are welcome.
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