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Don't wear underwear is great advice.
Dear Perchie15,
I lived 8 years in the Philippines,
SNIP
Do not be a drunk, stay far away from drugs, cloth conventional (no shorts, no underwear). Be friendly, smile, do not argue, certainly not with police!
1. There are girls that love sex during menstration. Some have bigger O's during mens.
2. Always have hydrogen peroxide handy to get the red out of the sheets.
3. Go down on her and earn your Red Wings sir.1. Reason is during menstruation there is new lining which is more sensitive. Also lubrication is good because of the blood.
2. What I do is use the bath towels underneath. So what if they get blood stained?
3. Going down. Mmmm? I will not.
Naked Gunz
06-18-16, 12:52
1. There are girls that love sex during menstration. Some have bigger O's during mens.The ex was always horny before and after. Too much blood becomes a crime scene. Just put the body outline on the sheet.
The ex was always horny before and after. Too much blood becomes a crime scene. Just put the body outline on the sheet.When I was in high school on a Friday night I took a girl out to the drive-in movie. We did it on the backseat of my car. When I got home I noticed my tidy whites had blood on it. I thought I had cut my dick on something. After a close inspection and shower I concluded I must have ripped her tight pussy open as I had no cut.
The next morning I went to my weekend job. At lunch time an older female co-worker said lets drive to MacDonalds for lunch. As I approached my car to open the passenger door for her I noticed the back seat was covered with a big spot of dried blood! It looked like a crime scene to me. I was so horrified. I quickly covered it with a blanket that I had back there. LOL, the good ole days.
Wicked Roger
06-18-16, 13:41
3. Going down. Mmmm? I will not.Good to see you are not a perv Sammon like Dg. That also goes for those pervs who think a hairy pussy is sexy LOL (Robbaf? Am considerably more conservative than that thanks goodness.
Dg. When I read that at least I was not eating or recently consumed food (consumed something else pinay with no hair the other side of the world and with no red flag either!
AlwaysLoveAsia
06-18-16, 21:00
Don't wear underwear is great advice.Hehehe, yes, funny.
If you don't wear it, you do not need to undress it!
Good to see you are not a perv Sammon like Dg. That also goes for those pervs who think a hairy pussy is sexy LOL (Robbaf? Am considerably more conservative than that thanks goodness.
Dg. When I read that at least I was not eating or recently consumed food (consumed something else pinay with no hair the other side of the world and with no red flag either!I like my steaks medium rare. A little on the bloody side. Of course hairless!
Also with some blue cheese for the extra flavor and aroma.
Let's eat mens! (Tongue in cheek)
Good to see you are not a perv Sammon like Dg. That also goes for those pervs who think a hairy pussy is sexy LOL (Robbaf? Am considerably more conservative than that thanks goodness.
Dg. When I read that at least I was not eating or recently consumed food (consumed something else pinay with no hair the other side of the world and with no red flag either!Appreciating a natural female pinay pussy AKA hairy for the the young kids here, makes one a perv? Thats silly. Shaving didn't even come into vogue until the '90's when porn adopted the look then came the internet. If you were weaned on the hairless juvenile look then I guess I can understand. Most pinay have very soft little bushes if they just leave it alone. This isn't the armenian section after all.
All that razor stubble, rashes red bumps ingrown etc that comes with shaving is so unappetizing on a pussy. DIY is so much nicer with a natural soft pinay. Who wants a 5 oclock shadow on a girl grinding against your face? I have had to turn down day or 2 old shaved pussy because I wasnt sure if the inflamation was just that or something worse. Talk about losing ones appetite!
Thats perversion or a cause for vomiting? I stand guilty as a perv I guess. Heheh and proud of it. Takes 2 months for a filipinas Bush to return to its soft state of nature. Its an easy way to keep track of loyalty at least when it comes to squeamish foriegners. Most trike drivers and local boys arent so delicate so one never knows for sure of course heheh.
Wicked Roger
06-19-16, 08:01
All that razor stubble, rashes red bumps ingrown etc that comes with shaving is so unappetizing on a pussy. DIY is so much nicer with a natural soft pinay. Who wants a 5 oclock shadow on a girl grinding against your face? I have had to turn down day or 2 old shaved pussy because I wasnt sure if the inflamation was just that or something worse. Talk about losing ones appetite!.Personally I promote waxing the Brazilian way or better a laser 'wax' where they remove all those pesky hairs hopefully forever.
I remember a mother of a girl many years ago telling me to shave as her daughter's thigh has a rash caused by my stubble. Other was OK when I have shaved and tested me to be sure. Lovely days LOL.
DG. Great comment.
I'm laughing while gagging.
I like my steaks medium rare. A little on the bloody side. Of course hairless!
Also with some blue cheese for the extra flavor and aroma.
Let's eat mens! (Tongue in cheek)
Pinaypounder
06-19-16, 16:54
A haired Vagina is wonderfully sexy.
The enormous Bush needs to be trimmed but 80% of pinay pussy ID nicely haired and I love shaving the parts that need trimming, it shows we care.
I like women not children and Pubic hair is hot!
PP.
You can't fix stupid can you?
There are hundreds of stories here about how over payment ruins lives there and here. Sorry you have to pay for all of your fun, try not to smoke and be drunk all day and doing a a few pushups and situps. If you were not a hideous loser the girls might be better to you.
When you buy a car do you pay more than you have to you fuckwit?
I would be more than glad to meet you and discuss your wit over a beer next trip, I will pm you when I am coming.
PP.Oh great Canadian white dick free pinay pussy pounder, gift to pinays in Canada.
You really can't fix stupid is right.
Overpayment really ruined lives? Did you ever turned down a raise? Did you ever tell an employer to lower your wages because you were overpaid for your skill set or it will ruin your life? I doubt it. You probably went thru your bitter life feeling underpaid and unappreciated.
I am glad to pay for my fun.
I am glad to pay for my fun.
I am glad to pay for my fun.
I don't smoke or drink and haven't been drunk for 20 years.
This fuckwit has paid more than sticker price for a few cars in my life time. Of course you would not understand the value in doing that because you can't fix stupid.
Thanks for the offer of a free beer but I will pass on it. Let's be honest about it, I am not worth your time and you are not worth my time.
Kumain kana,
Dg8787.
FreebieFan
06-20-16, 01:34
Thanks for the offer of a free beer but I will pass on it. Let's be honest about it, I am not worth your time and you are not worth my time.
Kumain kana,
Dg8787.Message to all parents. Please take care of your children. We have noticed recently a lot of unnecessary and irrelevant name calling.
Will parents please exercise a greater control of their children, otherwise we might have to ensure that the naughty children don't get their juice at break times.
A haired Vagina is wonderfully sexxy.
A shaved vagina has a resemblance to a child hMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM?
The enormous Bush needs to be trimmed but 80% of pinay pussy ID nicely haired and I love shaving the parts that need trimming, it shows we care.
I like women not children and Pubic hair is HOT!
PP.Fucking a hairy vagina resembles getting a BJ from a Canadian lumberjack! I personally stay away from both. I like women not lumberjacks! But to each his own.
Wicked Roger
06-20-16, 05:11
Fucking a hairy vagina resembles getting a BJ from a Canadian lumberjack! I personally stay away from both. I like women not lumberjacks! But to each his own.One of the better responses I have read for a long time DG.
We all have our special flavors but I like the reply.
Pinaypounder
08-16-16, 21:13
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Pinaypounder
08-17-16, 15:34
The Thais did not feel that about just the Japanese the 4 inches 4 minutes 4 K applied to all Asians, fucking an Asian was like a paid vacation for their pussy. You know all of the benefits none of the work! (for the pussy).
The good news is that 1 in 25 Pinays also don't like a big cock, the rest LOVE THEM!
PP.
Another hilarious Internet tough guy. PP, are you sharing notes with Dcup? Looking forward to your reply.
Next trip tell me where you are and I wil kick the fuck out of you for FREE.
You don't get it that fine, I am correct and you are not. But feel free to over pay it helps to compensate for your small cock I guess, like the Thai chant for the Japanese, 4 K, 4 minutes, 4 inches such is the life of those that cant perform I pay extra with ORGASMS!
Next time u top up ur Viagra prescriptions get some antidepressants!
PP.
There is no need to. Everyone knows X is a legend in his own mind!
PP, are you sharing notes with Dcup? .
Pinaypounder
09-05-16, 18:54
Your not even worth the time for a response.DG some one told me the root of your anger is your small root?
Sorry bud there are strap on toys.
Its a ***** being Asian for sure.
PP.
Pinaypounder
09-05-16, 19:04
Another hilarious Internet tough guy. PP, are you sharing notes with Dcup? Looking forward to your reply.I am there for most of October.
If you are there also.
Please drop me a note and you can find out and tell the rest of the boys.
I encourage you to do so!
PP.
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I have not had a BJ from a hairy Canadian Lumberjack, how are they?
Would you recommend?
PP.My mistake. So how was your BJ from a Canadian lumberjack after you trimmed him?
Blackangst
09-05-16, 21:06
Couple of real tough guys in here isn't there! I'm scared reading this!
Just remember. Arguing on the internet is like the special Olympics. Even if you win you're still retarded.
Couple of real tough guys in here isn't there! I'm scared reading this!
Just remember. Arguing on the internet is like the special Olympics. Even if you win you're still retarded.Very good! Very funny.
Drukyul2000
09-09-16, 22:07
Couple of real tough guys in here isn't there! I'm scared reading this!
Just remember. Arguing on the internet is like the special Olympics. Even if you win you're still retarded.LOL! Man this is one of the funniest thing in have read in a while. Funny but so true. No offense meant I'm just enjoying the humor. He he he.
TomNewton22
09-10-16, 05:32
Hi ISG'ers,
I am traveling to Cebu and Manila / Luzon later this year. The Manila / Luzon part of the trip is vacation. For that part of the trip, I will be traveling by myself. I am somewhat concerned about traveling alone, as I am a bit older and not in the greatest of shape. So, I am considering trying to find a companion to travel with me for that part of the trip. Any advice on how to find what I am looking for? Ideally I would find a very sexy bisexual babe that would do just about anything I wanted, and would help me find other companions that we would both party with. I will admit, this is a bit of a fantasy at the moment, but I thought, why not? Maybe someone on here has done something like this and can provide me some pointers.
I thought about getting on Date In Asia and just spelling out what I was looking for and see what happens. I will have a little over 2 weeks in Cebu to find someone to travel with me.
So what do you think? Is this possible? Likely?
Looking forward to the discussion!
Tom
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09-10-16, 07:24
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Wicked Roger
09-10-16, 15:35
Hi ISG'ers,
I am traveling to Cebu and Manila / Luzon later this year. The Manila / Luzon part of the trip is vacation. For that part of the trip, I will be traveling by myself. I am somewhat concerned about traveling alone, as I am a bit older and not in the greatest of shape. So, I am considering trying to find a companion to travel with me for that part of the trip. Any advice on how to find what I am looking for? Ideally I would find a very sexy bisexual babe that would do just about anything I wanted, and would help me find other companions that we would both party with. I will admit, this is a bit of a fantasy at the moment, but I thought, why not? Maybe someone on here has done something like this and can provide me some pointers.
I thought about getting on Date In Asia and just spelling out what I was looking for and see what happens. I will have a little over 2 weeks in Cebu to find someone to travel with me.
So what do you think? Is this possible? Likely?
Looking forward to the discussion!
TomGood ideas and lots of information on DIA tips / technique as well as travelling on the forum. Happy reading.
Koperen Klaas
09-10-16, 21:45
Yes, it is unbelievable that these young pinays do not have the brains to queue up to you for a chance to avail themselves of your 58 year old dick. I say, it is a shame they do not offer to pay you for the honour to be fucked over and over again by an old (but still handsome) Ducthman!Remarkable handle, too. Makes me believe he's Dutch but I can't help but thinking that he just wants to start a discussion.
Regards,
Ko
BrainDrain
09-10-16, 22:22
Hi ISG'ers,
I am traveling to Cebu and Manila / Luzon later this year. The Manila / Luzon part of the trip is vacation. For that part of the trip, I will be traveling by myself. I am somewhat concerned about traveling alone, as I am a bit older and not in the greatest of shape.
So what do you think? Is this possible? Likely?
Something does't seem right, 'you are not in the greatest shape, a bit older' etc. Yet you want a 'babe' with whom to party. Please give this Forum some respect.
Two weeks in Cebu is more than enough time to find a travel companion. Look for a non-pro girl if you can, not a dancer or a bargirl. Suggest having 2-3 as a backup.
I prefer pinalove, pay for a pinalove and ISG membership so you can have useful messaging.
I have two lovely ladies whom I have met in Cebu and whom are available to travel with me as per my work schedules. I am sure you will find one or two yourself.
BD.
Sort of amusing incident in the mall today. "Hello sir, good day sir" usual greeting. "T shirts sir". Yes I can see that. "100 pesos sir". Oh, so that's what the big sign says that I'm obviously staring at. (sorry. Got sidetracked there).
Anyway, I said that I was just browsing and this one is new on me: "I'm just doing my job sir, I will follow you around". I know they do that anyway, but to vocalise it was new on me! So I said "sorry but you just lost a sale then". She seemed quite surprised!
The other one that gets me: they ask what size, I say XL, so they find me a *different* product in a *smaller* size. Yes it might look nice but I can't even fit inside it!
All polite and good natured, no offense meant. Different world.
Hi ISG'ers,
I am traveling to Cebu and Manila / Luzon later this year. The Manila / Luzon part of the trip is vacation. For that part of the trip, I will be traveling by myself. I am somewhat concerned about traveling alone, as I am a bit older and not in the greatest of shape. So, I am considering trying to find a companion to travel with me for that part of the trip. Any advice on how to find what I am looking for? Ideally I would find a very sexy bisexual babe that would do just about anything I wanted, and would help me find other companions that we would both party with. I will admit, this is a bit of a fantasy at the moment, but I thought, why not? Maybe someone on here has done something like this and can provide me some pointers.I'm sure it's not just me but I'm confused why being older / out of shape gives you concern of traveling alone. This is unless you are 75, have blood pressure issues and need an RN with you.
But instead, you want a sexy bisexual babe. Hopefully just a misunderstanding on my part but as BD said below, given you have some time before this trip and want a companion, the dating sites with a very clear description of what you want (minus the sexy bisexual part or you will likely be banned) might yield the best results. Put some effort into this and you can have your lady ready and not have to worry about finding someone in country with few days left. Again, say you are looking for a tourist guide, see what you get, then if there is chemistry, you can add a bit more on what other stuff you are looking for.
TomNewton22
09-11-16, 15:09
I'm sure it's not just me but I'm confused why being older / out of shape gives you concern of traveling alone. This is unless you are 75, have blood pressure issues and need an RN with you.
But instead, you want a sexy bisexual babe. Hopefully just a misunderstanding on my part but as BD said below, given you have some time before this trip and want a companion, the dating sites with a very clear description of what you want (minus the sexy bisexual part or you will likely be banned) might yield the best results. Put some effort into this and you can have your lady ready and not have to worry about finding someone in country with few days left. Again, say you are looking for a tourist guide, see what you get, then if there is chemistry, you can add a bit more on what other stuff you are looking for.Paranoid, I guess. I am just 53, but way out of shape. I conceal carry in the US which gives me some (false?) confidence. I won't be able to do that over there (or can I? Prob not legally).
Thanks for the advice. I will give it a shot.
Tom
Hi ISG'ers,
I am traveling to Cebu and Manila / Luzon later this year. The Manila / Luzon part of the trip is vacation. For that part of the trip, I will be traveling by myself. I am somewhat concerned about traveling alone, as I am a bit older and not in the greatest of shape. So, I am considering trying to find a companion to travel with me for that part of the trip. Any advice on how to find what I am looking for? Ideally I would find a very sexy bisexual babe that would do just about anything I wanted, and would help me find other companions that we would both party with. I will admit, this is a bit of a fantasy at the moment, but I thought, why not? Maybe someone on here has done something like this and can provide me some pointers.
I thought about getting on Date In Asia and just spelling out what I was looking for and see what happens. I will have a little over 2 weeks in Cebu to find someone to travel with me.
So what do you think? Is this possible? Likely?
Looking forward to the discussion!
TomYou seem a little new to this, so hear is some advice: Watch out for transvestites offering their tour service on DIA, unless that is your thing. Most of them will tell you what they are, if you ask. Just don't be rude about it. They may be able to set you up with a pretty friend.
Mr Enternational
09-12-16, 00:06
Paranoid, I guess. I am just 53, but way out of shape. I conceal carry in the US which gives me some (false?) confidence. I won't be able to do that over there (or can I? Prob not legally).
Thanks for the advice. I will give it a shot.
TomI carry a gun in the US too, but what does that have to do with fucking hoes overseas?
Koperen Klaas
09-12-16, 00:22
Paranoid, I guess. I am just 53, but way out of shape. I conceal carry in the US which gives me some (false?) confidence. I won't be able to do that over there (or can I? Prob not legally).
Thanks for the advice. I will give it a shot.
TomWhat reason is there for carrying a gun, besides compensation for obvious physical shortcomings? Reminds me of people driving huge SUV's. The bigger the car, the smaller the penis.
Regards,
Ko.
TomNewton22
09-12-16, 01:19
I carry a gun in the US too, but what does that have to do with fucking hoes overseas?It was I. The context of feeling apprehensive due to travelling alone. I would feel safer if I could carry. That's all.
TomNewton22
09-12-16, 01:21
You seem a little new to this, so hear is some advice: Watch out for transvestites offering their tour service on DIA, unless that is your thing. Most of them will tell you what they are, if you ask. Just don't be rude about it. They may be able to set you up with a pretty friend.Yeah, that's not my thing. Thanks for the warning.
FreebieFan
09-12-16, 01:58
. I won't be able to do that over there (or can I? Prob not legally).
TomDo not go any where near guns in Philippines.
As a non Filipino (or the more usual term " foreigner") you are specifically not entitled, allowed, permitted to carry or bear a fire arm.
Take a quick look at Philippines jails and you will see why you should always stay within the law in that country.
You have everything to lose, including personal liberty and not much to gain by even trying to carry a gun in the Philippines.
WestCoast1
09-12-16, 02:15
I carry a gun in the US too, but what does that have to do with fucking hoes overseas?Exactly.
I am just 53, but way out of shape. That's easy to fix before you go there.
I conceal carry in the US which gives me some (false?) confidence. I won't be able to do that over there (or can I? Prob not legally).Noooooooooooo.
Related false confidence story. A lady that I'm close to (not romantically) here, late 50's, lets call her Mary. About 5 years ago, out of the blue, she changed, psychologically. I never ascertained a reason. Her politics turned hard right. She took a conceal-carry class and purchased a gun (found out about it at the gun range when I ran into her by accident). Later she bought 2 more handguns. I found out about the 2 extra guns a month ago. She invited myself and some friends for dinner one evening on a weekend. Several adults present were gun owners. Mary was spouting Donald Trump politics: "God its crazy now. Crime is everywhere". The rest of us were taken back at least a bit. One of the others reminded her that she lived in a ritzy and nearly crime-free area. The local newspaper had run such a story recently. "You people are crazy. Look at Boston and Chicago". Yes, but those places are a thousand miles away. She said she was now carrying 3 guns on her all the time, and keeps one strapped to her ankle when she sleeps at night. Without missing a beat she stood up and showed us the 2 guns on her waist, and the small (er) gun on her ankle. All of our eyes got big. WTF did she need those guns for in her home for a friendly dinner? Are they loaded? "All the time. Don't worry, I practice with them at the gun range. Can't tell you how much confidence these give". Oh my! How long have you been wearing 3 guns? "About 3 years now. A backup to my backup". There was a sudden chill in the room. We scarfed down our spaghetti and all made excuses to depart early. I felt a (fake) migraine coming on.
Exactly 3 days later, as Mary exited a convenience store in her ritzy neighborhood, somebody thumped her from behind. Out like a light. A rare robbery there. It was witnessed by the store clerk, who called for help. The perpetrator took her wallet and found the 2 waist guns and took them, too, and walked off. The paramedics revived her and hospitalized her briefly. Mary has since replaced the 2 stolen handguns.
I will give it a shot. Nooooooooooooooo.
MrWoolyBooly
09-12-16, 02:59
Noooooooooooo.Rambling off topic a bit. I'm very interested that my family and GF have the knowledge and skill to handle safely and render a firearm harmless. Whether they ever want to shoot anything is a completely separate question. For this purpose, I recently took my GF to a basement shooting range on Quezon Ave this year, below a GMA studio. Before signing her up, I asked and was reassured several times with pretty wall certificates that the instructor was fully qualified to teach her what I wanted taught: which end shoots, how to put it on safety, and how to ensure there are no rounds in the weapon. For this first class I was completely ambivalent whether she would even shoot a single live round. The session was terrifying. The so-called instructor had her blasting away at paper targets downrange in moments. From the observation room I could see the obviously lax instruction. Fortunately there were no others there at the time. I couldn't take the risk of my GF and this incompetent with firearms, so I joined them in the lane. I stood behind her as alert as a drill sergeant with new recruits: Keep it pointed downrange. Point down, not up when not firing. When I told her to turn the switch to safe, she looked at me puzzled. He had never even showed her. The only thing I wanted to pay for was safety training, sheesh. The "instructor" could see I was a disappointed customer. He offered to let me (a non-Filipino) have free range time. No, thanks.
A few years ago I enjoyed a lovely time at New Horizon hotel in Mandaluyong with an enormously endowed MILF who worked at a different shooting range Jethro in Quezon City, but the banging was much more enjoyable.
WestCoast1
09-12-16, 04:28
Do not go any where near guns in Philippines.
As a non Filipino (or the more usual term " foreigner") you are specifically not entitled, allowed, permitted to carry or bear a fire arm.Heed Freeb's words. Its one thing to rent / shoot at a gun range, but getting caught with a simple bullet in an airport can cause you great agony in phils. Getting caught with a gun on your person on the street will get you a quick and long trip to the grey-bar hotel. How would you get a gun into the country? Other gents: Wouldn't the airline find that in your luggage on the x-ray scan? I doubt PAL or Cathay Pacific is interested in your Conceal-Carry Permit. OTOH, plenty of locals have guns. I'm a gun owner, and not discouraging gun use. But its not smart to take one to a foreign country.
BrainDrain
09-12-16, 23:18
Guns -.
Interesting topic and from an outsider view form a country where we don't carry guns and my attitude to strife in RP.
I do use jeepneys and generally have accom out of the main tourist areas. I expect that one day I will get robbed. When this does occur I will be defenceless. The perpetrator (s) are likely to be armed. They will want my money and possessions that I am carrying. I have already decided that they can have them and everything that I carry.
They will leave with everything I have, they will be satisfied. I will lodge a police report which will go unresolved. Life in RP goes on.
As for the possessions I carry on the streets of RP. My last generation iPhone and at most the cash for my next barfine plus a few lady drinks. I will lodge a travel insurance claim and have my possessions replaced.
If I think about the alternative if during the process of handing over my possessions I decided to draw a gun, someone gets shot, someone is getting hurt, someone is going down.
Let's just get along.
BD.
SergeantRay
09-13-16, 01:12
Heed Freeb's words. Its one thing to rent / shoot at a gun range, but getting caught with a simple bullet in an airport can cause you great agony in phils. Getting caught with a gun on your person on the street will get you a quick and long trip to the grey-bar hotel. Filipino movie star Robin Padilla got arrested for possessing illegal guns. I thought at the time the guy was rich, famous, and popular, so he'd hire good lawyers and get off. Wrong. One of the country's biggest movie stars did hard time--several years--in prison. As a foreigner, you don't have a hope in hell.
TomNewton22
09-13-16, 01:31
What reason is there for carrying a gun, besides compensation for obvious physical shortcomings? Reminds me of people driving huge SUV's. The bigger the car, the smaller the penis.
Regards,
Ko.That is really uncalled for. So anyone interested in protecting themselves, or that drives a big SUV, has a small penis? Sounds like someone is projecting (a very small shadow).
<SNIP> . . I expect that one day I will get robbed. When this does occur I will be defenceless. The perpetrator (s) are likely to be armed. They will want my money and possessions that I am carrying. I have already decided that they can have them and everything that I carry.
They will leave with everything I have, they will be satisfied. I will lodge a police report which will go unresolved. Life in RP goes on.
As for the possessions I carry on the streets of RP. My last generation iPhone and at most the cash for my next barfine plus a few lady drinks. I will lodge a travel insurance claim and have my possessions replaced.Very sensible attitude BD.
I have lived here for 20 years and my wake-up call came not long after I arrived when I had a gold bracelet snipped off my wrist by 2 very skilled and "artful dodgers" in the midst of a crowd of shoppers in front of SM Megamall at 3 pm one afternoon.
Fortunately, no damage except to my pride, loss of the gold and a small scratch on my wrist.
Lesson learned:
No amount of vigilance will stop opportunistic and skilful thieves. I am relatively large; fit and healthy. I don't look like a tourist, and I walk fast, and yet these guys got me in a matter of 10 seconds and were gone. Whether I was Jackie Chan or carried a gun would not have mattered.
Nowadays I don't wear any jewellery; I carry a cheap phone and no longer carry a wallet. Instead, I have 2 money clips; one with small bills and the other with the larger denominations, so if I am ever accosted again I will readily hand-over the small bills and the phone and hopefully we will all be on our respective ways. I will continue to hope for the best but expect the worst.
There is no place for macho displays on the streets in the Philippines.
Rambling off topic a bit. I'm very interested that my family and GF have the knowledge and skill to handle safely and render a firearm harmless.IMHO, six things.
Always keep finger off trigger until ready to fire.
Always keep finger away from trigger until ready to fire.
Know that is behind target.
Know how to clear a weapon and check to make sure it is clear.
Make sure you have a real EU or US (or any AK) manufactured weapon.
Get a gun locker.
Koperen Klaas
09-13-16, 18:44
That is really uncalled for. So anyone interested in protecting themselves, or that drives a big SUV, has a small penis? Sounds like someone is projecting (a very small shadow)...Touched raw nerve there?
TomNewton22
09-14-16, 01:04
Touched raw nerve there?No worries my hands are much bigger than Trump's. It is just that your reply adds absolutely nothing to the discussion other than to show your own biases. I guess you think you were being funny but you are instead just telling us what kind of person you are. Thanks for that, it helps me to know who I can ignore. Saves to. E reading the forum.
Come on guys, we're all here for the ladies and exchanges like that don't help the community at large.
I appear to have been blown out tonight by my (local) coworkers who were originally keen on taking me to a more risque strip club than usual (to be frank, girls sitting on long neck beer bottles kind of thing) - seem to have gotten cold feet. Yes, they were concerned at taking this white westerner to a locals club (for their safety as much as mine) but were going to enquire anyway. Ho hum, maybe tomorrow. But I have noticed in my 12 years of being married to and living amongst OFWs that this initial excitement for planning something followed by disinterest is disappointingly common. I guess I just want more forward planning than their "we'll decide later" attitude.
Again (re earlier postings), this is not a criticism, it's just a different way of life. If one wants to fit in then one has to adapt to their ways in PI, or compromise abroad.
Koperen Klaas
09-15-16, 00:14
Exactly.
That's easy to fix before you go there.
Noooooooooooo.
Related false confidence story. A lady that I'm close to (not romantically) here, late 50's, lets call her Mary. About 5 years ago, out of the blue, she changed, psychologically. I never ascertained a reason. Her politics turned hard right. She took a conceal-carry class and purchased a gun (found out about it at the gun range when I ran into her by accident). Later she bought 2 more handguns. I found out about the 2 extra guns a month ago. She invited myself and some friends for dinner one evening on a weekend. Several adults present were gun owners. Mary was spouting Donald Trump politics: "God its crazy now. Crime is everywhere". The rest of us were taken back at least a bit. One of the others reminded her that she lived in a ritzy and nearly crime-free area. The local newspaper had run such a story recently. "You people are crazy. Look at Boston and Chicago". Yes, but those places are a thousand miles away..Some people get a false sense of security from carrying guns but as your last example shows that's completely baseless. However, the NRA will continue to broadcast their mis-interpretation of the "Right to bear arms".
Michelle Obama has the right idea about that. "The right to bare arms."
Regards,
Ko.
TomNewton22
09-15-16, 05:51
Some people get a false sense of security from carrying guns but as your last example shows that's completely baseless. However, the NRA will continue to broadcast their mis-interpretation of the "Right to bear arms".
Michelle Obama has the right idea about that. "The right to bare arms."
Regards,
Ko.Suit yourself. I would still rather have my gun on me than not. No one said it would take care of all situations, but that does not mean it wouldn't take care of some. The logic that assumes "because it did not help in this or that situation means it will never help" is highly flawed. And yes, now your true colors are fully exposed for all to see (t'was already obvious to me).
T
BrainDrain
09-15-16, 23:18
my (local) coworkers who were originally keen on taking me to a more risque strip club than usual (to be frank, girls sitting on long neck beer bottles kind of thing) - seem to have gotten cold feet. Yes, they were concerned at taking this white westerner to a locals club (for their safety as much as mine) but were going to enquire anyway. Any more intel on these type of bars in RP where the girls do more than shuffle.
I've been to one sow in Thailan and it really didn't excite me at all. But I'm interested to know if RP will follow on this path.
TomNewton22
09-15-16, 23:40
Any more intel on these type of bars in RP where the girls do more than shuffle.
I've been to one sow in Thailan and it really didn't excite me at all. But I'm interested to know if RP will follow on this path.What / where is RP?
Wicked Roger
09-16-16, 00:36
Suit yourself. I would still rather have my gun on me than not. No one said it would take care of all situations, but that does not mean it wouldn't take care of some. The logic that assumes "because it did not help in this or that situation means it will never help" is highly flawed. And yes, now your true colors are fully exposed for all to see (t'was already obvious to me).
TGiven that we live in a democratic society (well mainly) you can do what you ant so bring your gun to the Philippines and ignore the sensible advice (IMHPO that is what many gun owners do. Westie exempted as I know he would never do this). When you do let us all know what jail you are staying at (assuming they let you in the country in the first place) and we can come visit and have a giggle LOL.
TomNewton22
09-16-16, 02:05
What / where is RP?OK, so it appears that RP is Republic of the Philippines. I thought you were talking about a specific area somewhere in the Philippines.
Nevermind.
T.
What / where is RP?Republic of philippines.
Any more intel on these type of bars in RP where the girls do more than shuffle.
I've been to one sow in Thailan and it really didn't excite me at all. But I'm interested to know if RP will follow on this path.All I know is that about 10 years ago I was taken to one in Quezon City. We'd gone to Pegasus as a kind of "must see" but frankly I found it devoid of any interest at all, let alone enjoyment. Luckily escaped with little more than a couple of drinks and some food on our bill. I asked if there was something more. Interesting. So yes, not that far away, we went to this bar on a back street somewhere. I think it had a sign but don't recall what it said, nor were there any neon lights to attract potential customers. Inside were maybe a dozen round tables, so maybe capacity 50 broadly speaking, and it was fairly busy. I only noticed one other white person in there. Small bar in the corner, stage knee height and only 10'x20' I'd guess. First few dancers were fairly standard but by this time we had lady company on our laps. My friend's lady said it was her turn to perform and she started a regular routine but then stripped and came back to my friend, stuck one leg on the back of the chair, and pushed his head between her legs. Presumably for lubrication of what came next. She then took somebody's beer, put the bottle down on the stage, stood over it, and slowly did the splits until the whole neck of the bottle was inside her. Jiggled a bit, gave the man back her beer, and finished her routine.
I was telling my Filipino co-workers about this and they knew the beer bottle trick. Seems it's common enough here, maybe like the Thais and ping pong balls. As I say, they were going to take me to some place but backed out. At this point I should warn you again: these places may not be safe for white Westerners. Go with a local, leave your valuables at home, don't get drunk, and be very aware of your surroundings.
TomNewton22
09-16-16, 17:08
Given that we live in a democratic society (well mainly) you can do what you ant so bring your gun to the Philippines and ignore the sensible advice (IMHPO that is what many gun owners do. Westie exempted as I know he would never do this). When you do let us all know what jail you are staying at (assuming they let you in the country in the first place) and we can come visit and have a giggle LOL.I tried to post that I appreciated all the advice, and that I concluded it was not a good idea. I don't know what happened to that post.
No, I am not going to try to bring my gun to the Philippines.
The discussion about his flawed logic was simply that a discussion. You should not infer that I am Yosemite Sam and I am gong to shoot up everything.
I don't know any responsible gun owners like that, myself included.
Enough on this subject. Thanks again for all the helpful advice.
Tom
BrainDrain
09-17-16, 05:36
I was telling my Filipino co-workers about this and they knew the beer bottle trick. Seems it's common enough here, maybe like the Thais and ping pong balls. As I say, they were going to take me to some place but backed out. At this point I should warn you again: these places may not be safe for white Westerners. Go with a local, leave your valuables at home, don't get drunk, and be very aware of your surroundings.Thanks for the intel. Hope the beer bottle wasn't the large Red Horse, that might put me off barfining that girl.
Engine Driver
09-19-16, 16:07
Question: Are there any honest Filipinos? Is there any such thing as a Filipino who is not a habitual liar, a deceiver and scammer? For such a staunch Catholic country, how can they reconcile their religious beliefs with such reprehensible behavior?
Question: Are there any honest Filipinos? Is there any such thing as a Filipino who is not a habitual liar, a deceiver and scammer? For such a staunch Catholic country, how can they reconcile their religious beliefs with such reprehensible behavior?Is there any monger, who is not who is not a habitual liar? As you call, you get. If you find a normal, good filipino girl, long away from any monger surroundings, not destroyed by the "easy" money, she is as honest as any western girl.
Member #4558
09-19-16, 23:49
Is there any monger, who is not who is not a habitual liar? As you call, you get. If you find a normal, good filipino girl, long away from any monger surroundings, not destroyed by the "easy" money, she is as honest as any western girl.Yeah this is absolutely true but of course as mongers we tend to only meet girls either being pro girls, girls operating in dating sites or girls learned by the jungle telegraph that foreigners are walking Atms up for exploitation. Nothing wrong in this and I understand the girls. To this kind of girls I lie quite a bit myself (small white ones mostly to protect my real life) and I expect nothing else back but since I am here for play only (short time games) I don't care about their trustworthiness as long as they are willing to meet up.
Quite a few of them get destroyed because they first met a guy with all good intentions (probably met pinoys before but mostly they can not improve their life one bit so quite a few try the foreign guy route) but many foreign guys they meet will be mongers and many finds out guys fuck around. Then girls change into this themselves if not already there aka jaded.
I have a few pinays outside this environment though who I have met through various occupational surroundings. These girls would be marked as upper class girls (well off families, good jobs, careers first family later girls, single) and they are quite different in many aspects. They are trustworthy as they don't have the money incentive while dealing with guys. Only from their peers I expect the truth but again these girls are not common to meet if you are on mongering sprees because they mostly stay away from places which are known for such activities. With natural game or introduction from someone its doable these girls get horny too and ONS are acceptable.
That being said when I travel to Phils I pretty much accept the fact that I will be lied to, cheated, overpay, mistreated etc etc but I really don't care as I am not here to find the love of my life. Phils is a country I pretty much have to visit a few times (so why not make the best of it when I'm here anyway) but I leave as soon as possible to the normal world.
Chocha Monger
09-20-16, 00:24
Question: Are there any honest Filipinos? Is there any such thing as a Filipino who is not a habitual liar, a deceiver and scammer? For such a staunch Catholic country, how can they reconcile their religious beliefs with such reprehensible behavior?It is actually quite easy for Filipinos to reconcile habitual lying, deception, and scamming with staunch Catholicism. According to Catholic beliefs, Filipinos only have to confess their sins to a priest and they are granted absolution. Also, Christianity is not as strictly adhered to by the natives as many foreigners would like to believe. If that were the case there would not be a burgeoning sex tourism industry and a relatively large and accepted openly gay population. Church is a place Filipinos go on Sunday, it is not something that governs their daily behavior and thought processes. While many Filipinos claim Christianity, they practice old native rituals like making offerings to rice gods and routinely consult the witchdoctor (mangkukulam) when ill. The Philippines is not unique in this respect as a similar pattern can be seen in developing countries in Latin America.
Also, mongering is an activity with takes place in the dark shadows of society. Therefore, when a monger enters that world he is more likely to run into more shady characters than normal. This shadow world includes mongering districts and towns. Shady characters are not limited to people directly involved in the sex industry, it includes people who prey on mongers like taxi drivers, trike drivers, short time hotel staff, beggars, robbers and crooked cops.
The links below will give some insight on experiences in Filipino honesty:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1511-Filipinas-Opinions-and-Advice&p=906960&viewfull=1#post906960.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1511-Filipinas-Opinions-and-Advice&p=907158&viewfull=1#post907158.
It is actually quite easy for Filipinos to reconcile habitual lying, deception, and scamming with staunch Catholicism. According to Catholic beliefs, Filipinos only have to confess their sins to a priest and they are granted absolution. Also, Christianity is not as strictly adhered to by the natives as many foreigners would like to believe. If that were the case there would not be a burgeoning sex tourism industry and a relatively large and accepted openly gay population. Church is a place Filipinos go on Sunday, it is not something that governs their daily behavior and thought processes. While many Filipinos claim Christianity, they practice old native rituals like making offerings to rice gods and routinely consult the witchdoctor (mangkukulam) when ill. The Philippines is not unique in this respect as a similar pattern can be seen in developing countries in Latin America.
Also, mongering is an activity with takes place in the dark shadows of society. Therefore, when a monger enters that world he is more likely to run into more shady characters than normal. This shadow world includes mongering districts and towns. Shady characters are not limited to people directly involved in the sex industry, it includes people who prey on mongers like taxi drivers, trike drivers, short time hotel staff, beggars, robbers and crooked cops.
The links below will give some insight on experiences in Filipino honesty:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1511-Filipinas-Opinions-and-Advice&p=906960&viewfull=1#post906960.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1511-Filipinas-Opinions-and-Advice&p=907158&viewfull=1#post907158.Very good info, CM. Do you live in the Pi? Just wondering how perceptions change if one becomes part of the community.
Chocha Monger has written an 'A' level post this time (below). Normally of substance but latest one below, raises the bar. Post of Distinction please.
Over 40 yrs, going to and fro Phils many times, I have seen guys come and settle down in Phils, then leave few years later, hating the Philippines and the Filipinos.
Jet in, get what you want, jet out, way to go. They are ST, so we should be ST.
Don't be a sitting duck, be a moving target, and you will survive. Sorry, but the visiting Phils becomes a different Phils when you 'settle down'. Your enjoying it now cause you keep coming and going. When you some and stay, you will find the environment quite different. 40 plus years of observation and knowing folks initially in love with Phils, come to hate it, when they become residents, tells me so.
The in and out Mongers have a smile on their face. The residents do not, they look glum. Ho hum, no one listens, no one cares. Don't forget you will pay USA rates at hospitals in Phils, and expertise is at a different level. Got a friend now resident for 10 yrs or more. He is moving from place to place, to avoid creditors, chasing a P300,000 hospital bill, he can not afford to pay. He is stuck, can't go home (where health care is free, LOL), can't leave, and doesn't want to stay nowadays.
Folks can respond as they like. 40 yrs tells me. Do not pitch a tent in Phils. Hit and run, hit and run.
End of subject for me. Smiling me just visited Phils and left my sour faced resident friends behind, LOL.
Chocha Monger knows, that why he survives. I know, and that why I survive (40 plus years) and still got a smile on my dial.
As they say in Thailand "Up to You". End of subject for me.
Radical Guy
09-20-16, 20:54
Question: Are there any honest Filipinos? Is there any such thing as a Filipino who is not a habitual liar, a deceiver and scammer? For such a staunch Catholic country, how can they reconcile their religious beliefs with such reprehensible behavior?Well, about 3-4 years ago, I was touring around the sights of Cebu, and we went to some religious area with lots of crowds. I was stumbling with a bunch of stuff, when some 14-15 year old boy in ragedy clothes tapped me, and told me that I must have dropped something. In his hand was my wallet, which contained about 8,000 pesos and 5 $100 dollar bills, not to mention a bunch of credit cards, etc. I was so taken aback, I offered the kid 1,000 pesos as a reward, but he just put up his hand and said, "No thank you, sir. ".
I have since learned to be much more careful about my money and valuables (separate wallets, room safe, etc.), since the Philippines is full of crooks and cheats, as are many other countries and localities. But is is so unfair to generalize about anyone this way.
RG.
BrainDrain
09-20-16, 23:23
Yeah this is absolutely true but of course as mongers we tend to only meet girls either being pro girls, girls operating in dating sites or girls learned by the jungle telegraph that foreigners are walking Atms up for exploitation. Usually on each visit I seem t catch an infection of some kind be it a cold or stomach bug. I think it has to do with the number of girls that I have close contact with.
QUOTE=Sxxxx;1938866 Chocha Monger has written an 'A' level post this time (below). But latest one below, raises the bar. Jet in, get what you want, jet out, way to go. They are ST, so we should be ST. Don't be a sitting duck, be a moving target, and you will survive. / QUOTE.
You could be wrong but you could be right. I forget the band who sang this lyric but I can't help thinking there is an opposite opinion to this cyncism and pessimism supported by opposite facts and stories. Why else are so many Westerners living in the PI? I mean they can't all be losers given their domiciles, (retired) professions and beautiful young sexy attentive amorous wives.
Member #4566
09-21-16, 11:10
You could be wrong but you could be right. I forget the band who sang this lyric. Billy Joel?
Asian Rain
09-21-16, 11:51
Sorry, but the visiting Phils becomes a different Phils when you 'settle down'. Your enjoying it now cause you keep coming and going. When you some and stay, you will find the environment quite different. 40 plus years of observation and knowing folks initially in love with Phils, come to hate it, when they become residents, tells me so.
<SNIP> I know, and that why I survive (40 plus years) and still got a smile on my dial.Agree. I have seen exceptions, but this is closer to the rule. Have written about this before, but I think that most guys come very poorly prepared (financially, mentally, physically) to retire into living in the Philippines or anywhere in Asia, especially those who are coming for a Sexual Disneyland feast that they had on a limited basis before retirement. There are a few guys who have posted about the financials behind their basic living, which is something that I consider often given that I will surely live out the rest of my years in Asia without the support of any schemes from my country of origin. But for those guys with in-and-out experience who have a plan to sell the house, move the bank account and tell the government where to forward their pension checks, I see, hear and read about so many cases where it all ends in tears.
And this is not limited to Western mongers. Last year I was in Glorietta where they were doing a Retire in Philippines Fair. US and Europoean citizens make up a TINY <5% slice of the overall pie of foreign retirees. The vast majority is from China, Taiwan, Korea and Japan. And Japanese make up a huge majority of P4 P-seeking retirees. I was at McDo the other day in Bangkok and overheard 3 old Japanese guys talking about wanting to make their retirement escape to Thailand. I was looking at these guys and thinking that their biggest concern of moving here would be insurance lest they slip and break a hip. Just like in Philippines, none of the government social health insurance extends abroad, so a medical situation could (and often does) toss a retirement into turmoil. These guys are focused on where their next short time is coming they miss the long time. They don't factor for inflation, insurance, no government support, daily needs, etc. With an average male life expectancy of 75-80 yo (US / European / Japanese), the guy who drops his bags at age 65 is just 10-15 years away from death statistically. And depending on the physical shape they arrive, the latter of those years will be filled with medical challenges with no NHS or Medicaid to fall upon.
Not that it can't be done. It can and I know personally many who make it work. But they have thought things through with preparation and lead their lives by some rules and tactics. For those of you who are contemplating it, just take those things into consideration. Enjoy retirement, AsianRain.
Agree. I have seen exceptions, but this is closer to the rule. Have written about this before, but I think that most guys come very poorly prepared (financially, mentally, physically) to retire into living in the Philippines or anywhere in Asia, especially those who are coming for a Sexual Disneyland feast that they had on a limited basis before retirement. There are a few guys who have posted about the financials behind their basic living, which is something that I consider often given that I will surely live out the rest of my years in Asia without the support of any schemes from my country of origin. But for those guys with in-and-out experience who have a plan to sell the house, move the bank account and tell the government where to forward their pension checks, I see, hear and read about so many cases where it all ends in tears.
<SNIP)
Not that it can't be done. It can and I know personally many who make it work. But they have thought things through with preparation and lead their lives by some rules and tactics. For those of you who are contemplating it, just take those things into consideration. Sensible advice here from AR.
I am into my 21st year of living continuously in Philippines, and bought my own condo 9 years ago. Best investment I ever made as it has saved me squillions in rent and the locale (in Ortigas Center) means I don't need a car in order to get around.
I am lucky in that I am still fully engaged in the work force on a foreign salary with frequent trips to other SE Asian countries so that keeps me sane and I can adjust to the traffic and other factors here that will stretch one's patience.
I am extremely fit and healthy at present, but my major concern is my health going forward because I no longer have the ready cover of the Australiann pension scheme. I pay more than 1000 USD per year on a very robust health insurance scheme because I want to have the option of the best treatment when it (inevitably) is needed.
I settled here because of various reasons (career, tropical weather, cheaper cost of living, proximity to the rest of the world to mention a few). Pussy was not a factor, so those guys who are making a life-changing decision to move here based primarily on that factor are, IMHO, silly.
There are lots of other things to consider as well.
GoodEnough
09-21-16, 12:43
Agree. I have seen exceptions, but this is closer to the rule. Have written about this before, but I think that most guys come very poorly prepared (financially, mentally, physically) to retire into living in the Philippines or anywhere in Asia, especially those who are coming for a Sexual Disneyland feast that they had on a limited basis before retirement. There are a few guys who have posted about the financials behind their basic living, which is something that I consider often given that I will surely live out the rest of my years in Asia without the support of any schemes from my country of origin. But for those guys with in-and-out experience who have a plan to sell the house, move the bank account and tell the government where to forward their pension checks, I see, hear and read about so many cases where it all ends in tears.
And this is not limited to Western mongers. Last year I was in Glorietta where they were doing a Retire in Philippines Fair. US and Europoean citizens make up a TINY <5% slice of the overall pie of foreign retirees. The vast majority is from China, Taiwan, Korea and Japan. And Japanese make up a huge majority of P4 P-seeking retirees. I was at McDo the other day in Bangkok and overheard 3 old Japanese guys talking about wanting to make their retirement escape to Thailand. I was looking at these guys and thinking that their biggest concern of moving here would be insurance lest they slip and break a hip. Just like in Philippines, none of the government social health insurance extends abroad, so a medical situation could (and often does) toss a retirement into turmoil. These guys are focused on where their next short time is coming they miss the long time. They don't factor for inflation, insurance, no government support, daily needs, etc. With an average male life expectancy of 75-80 yo (US / European / Japanese), the guy who drops his bags at age 65 is just 10-15 years away from death statistically. And depending on the physical shape they arrive, the latter of those years will be filled with medical challenges with no NHS or Medicaid to fall upon.
Not that it can't be done. It can and I know personally many who make it work. But they have thought things through with preparation and lead their lives by some rules and tactics. For those of you who are contemplating it, just take those things into consideration. Enjoy retirement, AsianRain.Excellent points, and I'm making that judgment from one who actually does live here. While factors such as proximity of decent health care, and factoring in sufficiency of financial resources are important, I think day-to-day happiness may depend on other factors that are less quantifiable and more psychological. Having lived outside of my own country for a good portion of the past 25-30 years, I've thought about this a lot, as during this period I've run into a large number of expatriates, some of whom were happy and productive, and many who were not, but who lacked the resources to return or had lived "outside" for so long that they felt they no longer belonged anywhere.
Based on my observations over the years, I believe the following generalizations hold true: First, develop realistic expectations based on a reasoanable knowledge of the place you've chosen. This means speak to other long-term foreign residents, identify most of the pitfalls of living here, and decide if the frustration you will doubtless feel in a third world country is outweighed by the benefits of same as you perceive them. Second, be prepared for the "V curve" of typical expatriate life. This includes a need to anticipate the exultation concomitant with the first few weeks of the move; the "I've finally done it and I'm free," feeling initially experienced by many if not most first-time expatriates. It is unwise to make any long-term commitments (for leases, for romantic entanglements or any financial commitments) during this period. This is the top of the "V. " This period is often followed by a steadily growing feeling of despondency, or perhaps panic, once one starts to bump up against the frustrations of daily living and begins to recognize the enormous differences between his developed country and his new country of residence. This is also known as the feeling of "Oh my God, what have I done?" I've never yet met an expat who hasn't gone through this. Finally, the curve begins to tilt upward again to a more stable, more realistic outlook. If you're lucky, or at least persistent, it's only at this point that you will learn whether you've achieved the psychological balanced perspective that's the pre-requisite for living successfully here, and it's only at this point that anyone should even consider thinking of the longer term.
I assume that most of the guys reading these posts are coming here for short periods during which they hope to achieve the short-term (and for them rare) chance to score as many young women as possible in a compressed amount of time. The ready availability of SWTs is the primary motivation. There's nothing at all wrong with that, but when such availability becomes quotidian, when it becomes a constant factor in every day life, it also becomes insufficient by itself to ensure long-term happiness here. Chocolate is a delicious treat when it's available to you only rarely. Once you own the chocolate factory, it's uniqueness diminishes, and then disappears. The upshot of that inevitable outcome means for me that other outside interests and outside friendships are critical.
I'll close with the final observation of how important it is to get out of here--to neighboring countries, or to your home country--on a reasonably regular basis, thus providing still an additional personal perspective that will either re-enforce the "rightness" of your decision, or suggest that perhaps other alternatives are available to you. It's also important to remember that, though you will likely be accepted after a while as a fixture in your community, and though you will be treated graciously and welcomed, this will never become "your" country and you will never understand its culture fully. You will be, in other words, in some respects, an outsider.
GE.
Wicked Roger
09-21-16, 14:27
I was looking at these guys and thinking that their biggest concern of moving here would be insurance lest they slip and break a hip. Just like in Philippines, none of the government social health insurance extends abroad, so a medical situation could (and often does) toss a retirement into turmoil.
the guy who drops his bags at age 65 is just 10-15 years away from death statistically. And depending on the physical shape they arrive, the latter of those years will be filled with medical challenges with no NHS or Medicaid to fall upon..Along with GE and RK's FRs I would concur with this.
As an example last year a very old friend had a stroke in the street in Manila. Was huge but he got lucky and ended up very quickly at the only place in town with the right equipment. His recovery has been amazing IMHO given how I saw him after the stroke but the cost was just huge. Something like 20000 pesos a day plus add ONS.
He did not have insurance (he is older than AR's age range above) and this was a huge dent in his savings etc.
For him the cost of health insurance is much greater than RK's and was prohibitive given his limited resources so he took the risk.
Is something I think about lot as RK and GE know and one people must consider as even a trip to Thailand is expensive.
For those who are considering living in the country even for short time periods, it is best get some health insurance. RK gave me good advice a long time back and I now have another friend / contact who offers this and is very competitive also. He is someone I use for car insurance and travel insurance also.
Over 40 yrs, going to and fro Phils many times, I have seen guys come and settle down in Phils, then leave few years later, hating the Philippines and the Filipinos.
Jet in, get what you want, jet out, way to go. They are ST, so we should be STWow, 40 years of FIFO versus my puny 11 years plus of residency LOL! I respect your viewpoint & your life experience. You are right of course there are many who blunder into the place ill prepared financially, culturally or emotionally. Can't blame that on their chosen host country. Stupid is as stupid does. Emigrating is a major life choice. I think a lot depends on the personality of the punter in question. Some of us quite enjoy the challenges presented, others can't & won't adjust. I used to put some effort into trying to give some mentoring time to new aspirants but eventually gave up. Most will not listen. An old mate of mine back in Australia used to refer batches of road kill to see me from his local church group there. The men would arrive in a group of 6 or 12, never been out of their own country, divorced, usually working class & blinded by their bigoted views. I would greet them at my place accept their praise, entertain them & try to have a bit of a group chat about what they were letting themselves in for. Waste of time. They would sit there distracted and anxious to get hitched to the complete strangers they had chosen to give half their modest personal fortune to.
Look, I have a whinge now & then. I went through a bit of a personal trough 5 or 6 years ago but living in the Philippines is, on balance, a good gig for me.
Currently the political environment is looking nasty so I am advising people not to make plans to settle here for now. Hold off 6 - 12 months & review is my current advice.
A trough? As usual you put a lot of words down, but don't really say anything. Good luck with your road kill friendship club.
Wow, 40 years of FIFO versus my puny 11 years plus of residency LOL! I respect your viewpoint & your life experience. You are right of course there are many who blunder into the place ill prepared financially, culturally or emotionally. Can't blame that on their chosen host country. Stupid is as stupid does. Emigrating is a major life choice. I think a lot depends on the personality of the punter in question. Some of us quite enjoy the challenges presented, others can't & won't adjust. I used to put some effort into trying to give some mentoring time to new aspirants but eventually gave up. Most will not listen. An old mate of mine back in Australia used to refer batches of road kill to see me from his local church group there. The men would arrive in a group of 6 or 12, never been out of their own country, divorced, usually working class & blinded by their bigoted views. I would greet them at my place accept their praise, entertain them & try to have a bit of a group chat about what they were letting themselves in for. Waste of time. They would sit there distracted and anxious to get hitched to the complete strangers they had chosen to give half their modest personal fortune to.
Look, I have a whinge now & then. I went through a bit of a personal trough 5 or 6 years ago but living in the Philippines is, on balance, a good gig for me.
Currently the political environment is looking nasty so I am advising people not to make plans to settle here for now. Hold off 6 - 12 months & review is my current advice.
Wicked Roger
09-22-16, 16:05
Look, I have a whinge now & then. I went through a bit of a personal trough 5 or 6 years ago but living in the Philippines is, on balance, a good gig for me.
Currently the political environment is looking nasty so I am advising people not to make plans to settle here for now. Hold off 6 - 12 months & review is my current advice.But you are hiding in the toilet Amavida so how would you know much. I think if you don't get scared easily or more importantly do drugs or other illegal activities you have no reason to be worried about moving to the country.
Most westerners who move would not live in the poor areas where the bad guys live and the police are focusing their attention so why tell people not to come?
GoodEnough
09-22-16, 23:50
But you are hiding in the toilet Amavida so how would you know much. I think if you don't get scared easily or more importantly do drugs or other illegal activities you have no reason to be worried about moving to the country.
Most westerners who move would not live in the poor areas where the bad guys live and the police are focusing their attention so why tell people not to come?I think for those contemplating moving here, AV's advice is sound. The overriding issue for me is not physical danger, but what fundamental changes to the country might occur. The fact is that no one really knows the answer to this question and it's probably best to wait until the picture becomes more clear. I do not believe that foreigners are in greater danger than was the case prior to the Duterte Presidency, and I don't believe that this will ever be the case. Then again, I'm a confirmed city boy; I don't much like the countryside--whether here or anywhere else--and thus am attracted to the larger cities. I get no heightened sense of danger in Davao, where I live, in Manila to which I often travel, or in Cebu where I'll be next week.
GE.
I think for those contemplating moving here, AV's advice is sound. The overriding issue for me is not physical danger, but what fundamental changes to the country might occur. The fact is that no one really knows the answer to this question and it's probably best to wait until the picture becomes more clear. I do not believe that foreigners are in greater danger than was the case prior to the Duterte Presidency, and I don't believe that this will ever be the case. Then again, I'm a confirmed city boy; I don't much like the countryside--whether here or anywhere else--and thus am attracted to the larger cities. I get no heightened sense of danger in Davao, where I live, in Manila to which I often travel, or in Cebu where I'll be next week.
GE.I don't subscribe to this person, but from time to time I check out his posts. The first part to the 7:00 minute mark is irrelevant as is the last 6:30 minutes. But he has a balanced opinion from the seven minute mark to 13:30.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-1Vf1vF7rg
Comments from GE, RK, and WR seem to balance it all out.
PolyOrchid
09-23-16, 01:44
so why tell people not to come?I think I have it figured out. AV knows I am making a too infrequent visit to Manila and other PI parts unknown in 10 days and wants to be sure I have the finest and most abundant selection of tour guides available.
Shit, Negro, I've been more endangered in too many places in America than I ever have in the PI.
Laissez les bon temps rouler! Peace and love.
Poly.
P.S.: Adding a sweet Colombian who's seen and created more intrigue than you're likely to ever encounter from these lovely pinays.
A trough? As usual you put a lot of words down, but don't really say anything. Good luck with your road kill friendship club.You too, X Man, put a lot of words down, but don't say much. The words you put down are usually in the form of a lengthy "Reply" message, like Amavida's, without attempting to snip or condense it, then follow it up with a one liner. There is no need to repeat a full article when it appears in full as the next item below yours; and specially when you say it doesn't really say anything.
SergeantRay
09-24-16, 01:13
I think for those contemplating moving here, AV's advice is sound. The overriding issue for me is not physical danger, but what fundamental changes to the country might occur. I do not believe that foreigners are in greater danger than was the case prior to the Duterte Presidency, and I don't believe that this will ever be the case. GE.Agreed. Filipinos are usually too busy killing each other to devote much time to killing foreigners. Whatever you think of Duterte, he is neither stupid nor incompetent--he's not going to let the economy go into the tank because tourists and ex-pats are being knocked off.
I was just in Cebu City this summer, staying June through August. I read both the English and Cebuano newspapers every day. The killings are not random, but are specifically targeted to drug dealers and users. Even in the most intense shootouts, such as those of high-level druglords Yawa and Jaguar, there were no bystander casualties.
CallSign Papa
09-24-16, 07:50
The killings are not random, but are specifically targeted to drug dealers and users. Even in the most intense shootouts, such as those of high-level druglords Yawa and Jaguar, there were no bystander casualties.This 5 year old girl would probably disagree with you Ray, if she wasn't too busy being dead of course.
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/08/26/asia/danica-may-garcia-philippines-drugs/
As a regular visitor to Manila, I'll say this, Western Expats seems to be way more safe than their Korean / Chinese / Japanese counterparts. I remember before my first trip to Makati doing some casual research on crime in the area and could only find one report of a westerner being murdered (the Fil-Am Marine in the entrance to Rockwell). As far as I can see, this was still the last reported murder (I'll no doubt be corrected sharpish if this isn't the case).
As for Duterte, he's made absolutely no difference to Manila for those of us with boots on the ground, but I'd be incredibly surprised if this hasn't impacted the number of tourists inbound (even if most of them are probably Boracay / Cebu focused).
He (X Man) has only got a fifth grade education so I wouldn't put much stock into anything he says. (
You too, X Man, put a lot of words down, but don't say much. The words you put down are usually in the form of a lengthy "Reply" message, like Amavida's, without attempting to snip or condense it, then follow it up with a one liner. There is no need to repeat a full article when it appears in full as the next item below yours; and specially when you say it doesn't really say anything..
Okay, let me practice.
SNIP and specially when you say it doesn't really say anything.
BrainDrain
09-27-16, 01:45
Twice over the past two years I've been joined on my stay by a lovely Filipina housemaid in HK. She arrives in the day and needs to be home by 7. The deal was that when she has a steady boyfriend she will commit to him and no more sex for me.
I can handle that she has certainly upgraded from scatter-gun me to an A330 captain. Quite the score for her and I hope it works out.
Back at home base now in the west, what is the average time it takes for a married Filipina to start seriously considering options?
Met a filipina through work, she's here one year now. Exchanged emails for a few days. Next exchanged viber message, next day, coffee catch up and upgraded flirting. Seems hubby is not keeping up to her bedroom needs. I'm having a few ethics issues but I just think that one man for life may not be her thing.
The bad news, the HK filipina is off the menu, the good news is there appears to be some local fare on the menu.
Happy days.
BrainDrain
09-30-16, 09:18
Back at home base now in the west, what is the average time it takes for a married Filipina to start seriously considering options?
As a data point it is 4 days from email to condom and even then she preferred bareback.
BrainDrain
10-13-16, 23:20
Should a Filipina remove her wedding ring while she is bedding a guy other than her husband?
It appears the ethics issues have been solved.
Wicked Roger
10-14-16, 04:25
Should a Filipina remove her wedding ring while she is bedding a guy other than her husband?I think it adds piquancy to the 'relationship' BD LOL But who cares as long as she has a good time and you of course LOL.
BrainDrain
10-14-16, 05:59
It appears the ethics issues have been solved.As has been discussed in many different threads there are two versions of fidelity, Filipina and Western. She is not doing anything which crosses her boundaries.
AussieGaigin
10-14-16, 08:18
Should a Filipina remove her wedding ring while she is bedding a guy other than her husband?Should the guy remove his?
BrainDrain
10-14-16, 14:13
Should the guy remove his?I don't wear one, so I don't know the protocol.
Chocha Monger
10-16-16, 22:08
As a data point it is 4 days from email to condom and even then she preferred bareback.Four days is a long time for a Filipina bride to remain faithful as all start seriously considering options upon arrival at the immigration checkpoint in the West. Just take a look at the new arrivals and you will see them looking around at the young Westerners waiting in line and comparing them to her older fatter balder husband. The more ambitious Filipinas actually start looking for better options before the aircraft approaches its final destination. The ones capable of long-term future planning have already evaluated and selected their future options in their Western husband's country via the internet or prior in-person consultations with mongers touring the Philippines. They only need him to take care of the minor detail of getting them there and past the immigration officer. Once that little bit of bureaucracy is out of the way, they can get on with the real business of meeting and consummating their options.
As for leaving the wedding ring on during adulterous sexual activities, I tend to agree with WR that it adds a certain degree of sauciness and spice to the torrid affair. It also allows the pinay to demonstrate her honesty, and we know how important honesty is for pinays in a relationship.
BrainDrain
10-17-16, 09:36
Four days is a long time for a Filipina bride to remain faithful //snip// and we know how important honesty is for pinays in a relationship.Thanks for the reply. One of my previous pinay was here on a three month stay with her BF sponsor. I'm starting to see what you mean.
Enjoy lads.
Wicked Roger
10-17-16, 14:59
As for leaving the wedding ring on during adulterous sexual activities, I tend to agree with WR that it adds a certain degree of sauciness and spice to the torrid affair. It also allows the pinay to demonstrate her honesty, and we know how important honesty is for pinays in a relationship.LOL.
Sauciness is word I have not used in a long time (or heard about me either LOL). To add more sauciness BD ask her while taking her from behind who is better you or her husband. That has turned a few pinays on when they about that.
Just an idea of course LOL.
Jack Burton
10-20-16, 07:20
LOL.
To add more sauciness BD ask her while taking her from behind who is better you or her husband. That has turned a few pinays on when they about that.
Mixed results so far. Is bastos ka! A term of endearment? I return the compliment when I call her Mahal. As in Taj Mahal. Too mahal.
AussieGaigin
10-21-16, 09:45
Four days is a long time for a Filipina bride to remain faithful as all start seriously considering options upon arrival at the immigration checkpoint in the West. Just take a look at the new arrivals and you will see them looking around at the young Westerners waiting in line and comparing them to her older fatter balder husband. The more ambitious Filipinas actually start looking for better options before the aircraft approaches its final destination. The ones capable of long-term future planning have already evaluated and selected their future options in their Western husband's country via the internet or prior in-person consultations with mongers touring the Philippines. They only need him to take care of the minor detail of getting them there and past the immigration officer. Once that little bit of bureaucracy is out of the way, they can get on with the real business of meeting and consummating their options.
.There seems to be a good market for "mail-order-brides" down here in Australia, and every weekend in my local shopping mall I see lots of younger Pinays with their twice-as-old husbands. I'm not in the prime of my youth myself, but I always seem to get welcoming smiles from the girls as they go past.
Member #4558
10-21-16, 12:32
Four days is a long time for a Filipina bride to remain faithful as all start seriously considering options upon arrival at the immigration checkpoint in the West. Just take a look at the new arrivals and you will see them looking around at the young Westerners waiting in line and comparing them to her older fatter balder husband. The more ambitious Filipinas actually start looking for better options before the aircraft approaches its final destination. The ones capable of long-term future planning have already evaluated and selected their future options in their Western husband's country via the internet or prior in-person consultations with mongers touring the Philippines. They only need him to take care of the minor detail of getting them there and past the immigration officer. Once that little bit of bureaucracy is out of the way, they can get on with the real business of meeting and consummating their options.
As for leaving the wedding ring on during adulterous sexual activities, I tend to agree with WR that it adds a certain degree of sauciness and spice to the torrid affair. It also allows the pinay to demonstrate her honesty, and we know how important honesty is for pinays in a relationship.I understand its tempting when people get old to import a wife from here and there. I have been so fortunate to assist waiting pinays (waiting for documents, green light for entering the plane) in Manila as well as I have been feasting from already checked (through imm) good to stay pinays in my home country. For the Manila part one girl was visiting me my hotel before her US embassy appointment, she was married with US guy, and she wanted to return after her appointment (I stayed the New World Manila Bay Hotel so it was rather close). I was occupied when she finished at the embassy for the day but she informed me some hick ups occurred so she had to go back the next day. Then she stopped by again. For the western world part young pinays when parted from their husband tend to flock to a couple of nightclub in my city where they enjoy the company of other asians and younger guys. Many of them just inform they will spend the night at a friends place while they being boinked the western style. I am guilty as charged here as well and take what's on offer being in Phils or back home. It might be a shitty thing to do but as long as its not my close friends GF / Wives I can not stay away.
One girl who became some sort of regular (with mentioned wedding ring attached to her) had this odd twist to our sexapades that she would every time phone her LDR guy / or husband while were at it. I found it awkward to start with but as time went by I started to think it added a certain twist myself. I don't make to much noise during sex anyway so it was an easy task. She told her guy she breathed heavily due to doing workout. She partly told the truth. That being said there are of course faithful pinays out there but one should just to be safe monitor them 24/7. I believe to many thinks their chosen pinay is faithful than ad facto is the actual numbers. But whatever suites each and everyone minds I guess.
Things can of course backfire when husbands surveillance program works to good. I got a feel from this as I earlier had a girl convenient located only 10 min walk from where I stayed most of the times. She was married to Aussie and lived him in Makati. She was my substitute girl being able to loosen her matrimonial bounds on very short notice, create an excuse and walk over to my place for some banging. Substitute as in I just texted her if I got a cancellation / no show happening. Her normal excuse was she had to go supermarket to get something. Husband must gotten suspicious because one day he obviously followed her and as I was walking her out and kissed her goodbye (which I normally don't do both kiss in public or walk them out) he caught us. The angry teddy tried threatening me but I am not standing quite when unjust shit are poored my way. I told him you are mad at the wrong person as I am single and then I walked off. Later the girl told me it was finished and I could hear the convo was on load speaker as he instructed the girl what to say. We still meet from time to time but never when I stay close by. Except from threatening me a couple of times nothing bad happened. Well at least nothing major. In all fairness what is the general opinion here. If a girl is married or in rel with a dude and she fucks someone else I mean he should be mad at the girl and not the guy. I guess its some sort of misunderstood testo stuffs guys are running after the guy. Or maybe its only my belief system parting from the general public? I have thought the scenario through multiple time if shit happens and I catch my GF with another guy. In my hypothetical scenario I will bemad at my GF and have a beer with the guy saluting him as he only do what a man got to do. Its in our genetics. Well skip the beer. I guide him outside.
Wicked Roger
10-21-16, 13:17
There seems to be a good market for "mail-order-brides" down here in Australia, and every weekend in my local shopping mall I see lots of younger Pinays with their twice-as-old husbands. I'm not in the prime of my youth myself, but I always seem to get welcoming smiles from the girls as they go past.I would second that also.
Seems Australia is becoming a destination of choice for some and many real estate developers who are targeting the Asian market already are now looking at 'house and lot' deals for Filipinos (some even provide / arrange the finance).
There seems to be a good market for "mail-order-brides" down here in Australia, and every weekend in my local shopping mall I see lots of younger Pinays with their twice-as-old husbands. I'm not in the prime of my youth myself, but I always seem to get welcoming smiles from the girls as they go past.Ozzie men have been marrying Pinays for a very long time. Not new. Frequently it's an older, divorced, untraveled, bigoted, self opiniated guy who has done zero due diligence on what he is buying into. In my experience, the women are poorly educated, from dirt poor families and are frankly just so pleased to be relieved of the sole burden of 'utang na loob'. Generally speaking most of the women are loyal and stoic but likewise uninformed as to what they are buying into. There is a high rate of marriage failure. In 90% of cases the Aussie guy has treated the woman like shit. In roughly 10% of cases the Pinay was utterly mercenary and insincere from the get go.
An old mate in Oz who is involved in some church group regularly sends groups of these road kill over to meet me prior to their 'big day'. It isn't pretty.
I've had torrid affairs with unfaithful (insatiable) Pinays both here and back in Oz to be sure but no more than other nationalities.
Four days is a long time for a Filipina bride to remain faithful as all start seriously considering options upon arrival at the immigration checkpoint in the West. Just take a look at the new arrivals and you will see them looking around at the young Westerners waiting in line and comparing them to her older fatter balder husband. The more ambitious Filipinas actually start looking for better options before the aircraft approaches its final destination. The ones capable of long-term future planning have already evaluated and selected their future options in their Western husband's country via the internet or prior in-person consultations with mongers touring the Philippines. They only need him to take care of the minor detail of getting them there and past the immigration officer. Once that little bit of bureaucracy is out of the way, they can get on with the real business of meeting and consummating their options.
As for leaving the wedding ring on during adulterous sexual activities, I tend to agree with WR that it adds a certain degree of sauciness and spice to the torrid affair. It also allows the pinay to demonstrate her honesty, and we know how important honesty is for pinays in a relationship.I concur. I am in Seattle Tacoma area and there is a couple with a 70 yrs old man and 27 yrs old wife. He carries her like a shopping basket with him. She knows me very well and looking forward to taste what her cousin had with me.
MrWoolyBooly
10-31-16, 05:15
I know this topic has been covered endlessly, but I just got to vent. The below text exchange took place mostly in Tagalog, so there was no language barrier issue.
Me: Where exactly can my driver service (Uber) pick you up?
Her: We're in Ayala.
Me: Where exactly in Ayala can my driver service pick you up?
Her: We're in mall.
Me: Which mall?
Her: Rustans.
Me: (checking Google for Rustans, finding three in Makati) Which mall is the Rustans in, there are three in Makati.
Her: I don't know.
Me: Where were you when you found the mall?
Her: Glorrietta 4.
Me: Are you in Rustans Glorrietta 4 now?
Her: Yes.
Me: (checking Uber's pickup points) Are you in the grocery store or department store of Rustans?
Her: I don't know.
Me: Do you see food or clothes in the store?
Her: There's a stoplight.
Me: Are you in Rustans now?
Her: I'm outside now. There is a stoplight here.
Me: Go back inside and tell me if you see groceries or clothes.
Her: Groceries.
Me: Go outside the same door and don't move until the driver arrives.
This is just one example of many. Getting many Pinays to give a precise location is often impossible, whether inside a mall or specifying an intersection. No kidding, as soon as I can I'm going to hire a clever Pinoy or Pinay to do all my arranging for me and just fill me in on the details while I work or loaf in my room. The above was the younger, bigger boobed sister of the two from recent Manila report.
Another example: I was trying to meet a lady at a safe, precise meeting point near her house. Below is a paraphrase, again in Tagalog so no excuses.
Me: Where do you live in QC?
Her: Tandang Sora.
Me: Where exactly in Tandang Sora?
Her: There's only one Tandang Sora.
Me: Is there a business near you?
Her: No.
Me: Not even a sari-sari?
Her: Yes.
Me: Does it have a name?
Her: I don't know.
Me: Are there any fast-food restaurants near you?
Her: I don't know.
Me: Is there a school near you? Didn't you graduate high school there?
Her: Yes, Tandang Sora National High School.
Me: (checking Google maps, finding the barangay hall next door to the high school) Can you meet me in front of the barangay hall?
Her: I don't know where that is.
Me: It's next door to your former high school (the entrances are literally 10 meters apart).
Her: I don't know.
Me: OK, just go to the main entrance to your former high school.
Her: OK I go there now.
Me: I'll be there in around an hour and will update you, but I can't wait for you there (last day need to catch a flight).
Her: OK.
Me: texting her every 10 minutes using Uber updates - 40 minutes away, 30 minutes away, 20,10, I'm here, where are you.
Her: We'll go there now.
Me: I gave you one hour advance notice, why should I wait?
Her: Wait lang ha (Taglish that means something like "I don't value your time or plans at all and need you to waste this little piece of your lifespan because I was too lazy to get my rear in gear when I should have".)
Meantime my driver is happily grabbing a bite of street vendor food, and a I strike up a conversation with a couple of newly minted policemen who've been on the job a month. While talking with the police a cute lady looking about 19 or 20 with glasses and braces but with obvious mental health issues walks up to me amid the cops "Sir, do you want me to go with you? "No, I'm busy working and I have no money. " She keeps trying, not sure what to make of her but she sure ain't going with me. Eventually my lady arrives with her younger sister, both breathless from walking faster than a waddle. If one can detach oneself from the Western feelings about time, the entertainment value is endless.
Soapy Smith
10-31-16, 05:37
If one can detach oneself from the Western feelings about time, the entertainment value is endless.Stories like this are so numerous in the forum that it would almost be possible to assemble them into a book of humor. I am reminded of a book assembled some years ago of humorous remarks from Jospeh Estrada (Erap). The title was "Eraptions" or something of the kind. Problem for us, given that our own roles in these stories are invariably off-color, is to find some way to frame the humor so that the book could actually be sold to a willing audience.
Wicked Roger
10-31-16, 18:15
Much has been said before on the education system. So rather than labor the point I give you one example that even surprised me.
Cutie: Where are you now?
Me: Europe.
Cutie: is that in Australia?
She is not a graduate of Tourism or HRM but nevertheless has a degree.
FreebieFan
11-01-16, 01:55
Much has been said before on the education system. So rather than labor the point I give you one example that even surprised me.
Cutie: Where are you now?
Me: Europe.
Cutie: is that in Australia?
She is not a graduate of Tourism or HRM but nevertheless has a degree.And without belaboring the point (but I will) the classic Get The White Guy Irritated conversation.
Me " Where are You".
Her. "I'm Here. ".
Me "where's here. Describe it".
Her. "I'm here ".
Had that conversation countless times.
Me: Where exactly can my driver service (Uber) pick you up?
Voil! This is where the problem began.
Being considerate will fuck you up. Also, the road to hell. . .
It's best to have your meeting spot next to or very near your residence. As she wanders around oblivious to her surroundings you'll at least enjoy the comfort and amenities of your condo / hotel room. Tell her beforehand to text you when she arrives and you'll come down to meet her, which will take about 5 minutes.
Her: "I'm here!
Me: "OK, I'll be there in 5 minutes." (Keep in mind you previously told her it takes about 5 minutes for you to arrive. This reminder will be ignored.)
Her 30 seconds later: "I'm here! Where r U?
20 seconds later: "R U coming?
15 seconds later: "where R U?
Anyway, after the first meeting this usually is sorted so future meetings will be without travel drama.
Silly girl. Everyone knows that Australia is in Europe.
Much has been said before on the education system. So rather than labor the point I give you one example that even surprised me.
Cutie: Where are you now?
Me: Europe.
Cutie: is that in Australia?
She is not a graduate of Tourism or HRM but nevertheless has a degree.
You boys are much too hard on our little Pinay morsels. They know not what they do.
And yes, Australia is in Europe lol
PC out.
You boys are much too hard on our little Pinay morsels. They know not what they do.
And yes, Australia is in Europe lol
PC out.In all fairness, what difference does it make if they know world geography? Are they going to travel out of RP?
Unless they are front desk hotel reception kissing ass, it is not going to put food on the table for them!
The reality is that most have no sense of geography, period! That many think Australia and Europe are in America isn't relevant to those who think all white guys are American. Show a Filipino a world map and ask her to locate the Philippines. Most can't. Show a Cebuana a map of the Philippines and ask her to locate Cebu. Most can't. Geography and maps are simply not part of the DNA. Asking questions such as "Where are you now?" are a form of masochism or self abuse.
I was on PL and came across a decent looking woman in her late 20s whose profile was intriguing.
so if you are chatty witty and good looking. Do not hesitate to share your thoughts with me. Lets talk about everything from Nazis' to global warming LOLNazis and global warming?! Oh joy! This may be the elusive intellect you've been searching for. I sent her a message.
Do you think the Nazis are worried about global warming? Brace yourselves.
Haha no they were worried about US who wanted to take over Germany LOL. They were powerful and wealthy at that time. What Germany produce is what they buy. They rarely import so their money stays in their own country whilst they export their goods to other countries. Hitler despised the Jews. He had a traumatic experience with them when he was a kid. So he had that grudge that he will have to exile all Jews out of Germany. Americans see them as a threat and they seen it as an opportunity to take over Germany because Hitler has turned out to be evil and kill innocent people. So that's how War has started. Nazis were posh their clothing designer was Hugo Boss hehe. If you have noticed American always starts the war LOL I am not against of them in fact I love American products LOL they did it in Iraq because Saudi Arabia their ally is running out of oil. So they accused Saddam Hussein and had him executed. They did it in Afghanistan because they are rich of Lithium. America is facing doomed because of so much debts from World Bank. So they need back up. And now America two presidential candidates what will happen next LOLIndisputably she has some facts straight. Hugo Boss did indeed design the Nazi uniforms. 'Posh' may not be the right adjective, though. 'Dashing'? 'Sinister'? Much of the rest is a sprinkling of names & events mixed in half-baked conspiracy theories. An entertaining read, but I prefer conspiracy theories to be full baked. Could you imagine listening to this for hours? You could spend your time saying repeatedly, "Wait, wait, wait. That's not entirely accurate. " Or you could concoct even more farfetched conspiracies to dazzle and bewitch her. How far could you take it until she says, "That doesn't sound right"? Or you could just stick your dick in her mouth.
Your holiday is yours.
MrWoolyBooly
11-05-16, 13:52
Voil! This is where the problem began.
Being considerate will fuck you up. Also, the road to hell. . .
It's best to have your meeting spot next to or very near your residence. As she wanders around oblivious to her surroundings you'll at least enjoy the comfort and amenities of your condo / hotel room. Tell her beforehand to text you when she arrives and you'll come down to meet her, which will take about 5 minutes.My intentions were entirely self-centered. Besides a more-than-average Western attachment to punctuality, I'm impatient to boot. Picking up girls via Uber or other app removes a lot of nonsense excuses like "it's so far" or "I have no money for fare" or "i don't know where is that". I love the ability to see my next lovely's progress on the map with fairly accurate ETA. In a perfect world your method would be best, but I find the expense worth the benefit. I need to find out how to manage multiple rides at the same time, though. Anybody know whether Uber can do it? When one lady is outbound I could have another already inbound. Or maybe just install various apps for the same purpose.
MrWoolyBooly
11-05-16, 13:58
I was on PL and came across a decent looking woman in her late 20s whose profile was intriguing.
Good grief! You couldn't make this stuff up! That opening line almost had me sending you a PM to get her contact info. My recent record oldest lady (38) is indeed intelligent, educated, works in financial account security, has a perfect figure and is the perfect bedmate. But holy cow the woman can't stop talking. Either she needs to go mute or I need to go deaf. Best wishes to all.
QUOTE=Hutsori: you could concoct even more farfetched conspiracies to dazzle and bewitch her. ENDQUOTE.
Hilarious, Huts. You could have all kinds of fun fucking with her mind and then get her to stop talking as you mentioned. Some motor mouths won't shut up until you fill them up with something. Oh and I'm glad Europe is now in Australia. It will save me some airfare.
I was on PL and came across a decent looking woman in her late 20s whose profile was intriguing.
Nazis and global warming?! Oh joy! This may be the elusive intellect you've been searching for. I sent her a message.
Brace yourselves.
Indisputably she has some facts straight. Hugo Boss did indeed design the Nazi uniforms. 'Posh' may not be the right adjective, though. 'Dashing'? 'Sinister'? Much of the rest is a sprinkling of names & events mixed in half-baked conspiracy theories. An entertaining read, but I prefer conspiracy theories to be full baked. Could you imagine listening to this for hours? You could spend your time saying repeatedly, "Wait, wait, wait. That's not entirely accurate. " Or you could concoct even more farfetched conspiracies to dazzle and bewitch her. How far could you take it until she says, "That doesn't sound right"? Or you could just stick your dick in her mouth.
Your holiday is yours.Speaking of PinaL, I just had 2 besties leave me just now. Both college students (yeah right). Met me at Metrowalk last night. Had some Starbucks and back to Hotel. Switching back and forth between them, BBBJ, DATY other, switch, cum and then sleep. Order Jollibee for breakfast (YUCK) for 500 p. Dam its pricey for delivery LOL.
More fucking till 7 am. Shower and call Uber to get them gone. 5 k for both all night. For about $130 USD, not a bad deal for 2 21 yr olds IMHO and coffee LOL.
Yes its better in the Phils LOL.
PC out.
Member #4558
11-06-16, 13:37
Got a nice message on viber earlier today. From a girl I haven't met in a very long time (maybe a year or so).
Msg as follows: "Help".
In many ways I appreciate people to come straight to the point but when girls don't bother not even to invent and describe a problem, its gone to far, hehe. Small cute pinays become lazy.
MrWoolyBooly
11-06-16, 18:34
Got a nice message on viber earlier today. From a girl I haven't met in a very long time (maybe a year or so).
Msg as follows: "Help".
In many ways I appreciate people to come straight to the point but when girls don't bother not even to invent and describe a problem, its gone to far, hehe. Small cute pinays become lazy.A less lazy Filipina lady could more effectively say: "Help. I'm still a small cute Pinay. " No problem description necessary.
Mr Enternational
11-10-16, 00:02
After taking a shower, instead of hanging her towel up to dry openly, my girl folds hers.
Why is it that when you go into the bathroom after a Filipina it looks like they just had a water fight with someone? Yesterday while my girl was brushing her teeth I was standing next to the sink with my back turned. How did I end up with more water on me than was inside the sink? It seemed like she was throwing water at me from the spigot.
After taking a shower, instead of hanging her towel up to dry openly, my girl folds hers.
Why is it that when you go into the bathroom after a Filipina it looks like they just had a water fight with someone? I think it's more an Asian thing than something peculiarly filipino Mr E.
I hosted 2 Thai senior educators for 2 nights in my home in Australia some years ago now and they completely flooded my bathroom (including the mats on the floor). A Lao girl in my hotel room in Vientiane last year also managed to put 1 cm of water across the floor in my bathroom. I cannot explain it.
I guess we just ignore that aspect and enjoy the side benefits.
Roll Aides
11-10-16, 01:29
After taking a shower, instead of hanging her towel up to dry openly, my girl folds hers.
Why is it that when you go into the bathroom after a Filipina it looks like they just had a water fight with someone? Yesterday while my girl was brushing her teeth I was standing next to the sink with my back turned. How did I end up with more water on me than was inside the sink? It seemed like she was throwing water at me from the spigot.Agree with RK. Just look at the design of Asian bathrooms, a lot of times there's not even a divider for the shower area, it's just all tile and there's a drain for the room. It's assumed it's going to be wet in there. I'm the same damn way so it doesn't bother me, I like to just fling water anywhere, but I can see how it would get on most westerners' nerves.
Mr Enternational
11-10-16, 03:32
Agree with RK. Just look at the design of Asian bathrooms, a lot of times there's not even a divider for the shower area, it's just all tile and there's a drain for the room.That is the way my place in Thailand is. I installed a rod and shower curtain, but 95% of the time I am the only one that closes it. Thai chicks don't put water all over the countertop as Pinays do.
Most Pinay CR has a non flushing toilet bowl, a barrel of water and water scoop with handle. The floor has a drain hole. To bath they scoop water from the water barrel and pour onto themselves wetting the floor. To flush the toilet they scoop water from the barrel and pour it down the toilet.
They do not "flush" the toilet if they are just [CodeWord112] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord112). I have noticed many times my lovely Pinays do not flush the hotel toilets if they are just [CodeWord112] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord112).
In the 1980's I noticed even the 4-5 star Hong Kong hotels had no shower curtains or dividers, just a drain in the middle of the floor. Water got everywhere, all over the toilet and sink.
Hello fellow mongers,
Like many of us, I also stroll dating sites before going to visit some honeypot city and this works surely best for the Philippines I believe. Now recently more than before I had girls proposing to come and pick me up from the airport and I was wondering what is your experience with this and what do you think is the reason for them to do so.
FreebieFan
11-11-16, 01:30
Hello fellow mongers,
Like many of us, I also stroll dating sites before going to visit some honeypot city and this works surely best for the Philippines I believe. Now recently more than before I had girls proposing to come and pick me up from the airport and I was wondering what is your experience with this and what do you think is the reason for them to do so.Do not let them pick you up, its that simple.
They are masters at getting you to reveal your info. For instance you arrive, get a sim, she says why you need a sim card, you are with me.
Arrive in hotel, she will check out all your bags. " oh why so many condom, we are together ".
You will have no privacy as you are now hers.
She will know your hotel, room, maybe has even seen your real name.
Arrive, get to hotel, get organized then invite her over. Not at the airport.
Do not let them pick you up, its that simple.
FF is absolutely right.
I reported an extreme instance around 18 months ago about a girl meeting a guy at the airport, escorting him to his hotel, settling in his room and, to cut a long story short, soon after her boyfriend arrived and they robbed him of all his possessions. Professional con-artists.
This is an extreme example and FF details many of the things that can happen. You will meet some girls about whom you are comfortable about bringing back to your hotel; others will ring alarm bells and you will want to use a short-time hotel instead. It's difficult to judge them until you actually meet them.
I am certain some guys will jump on here and say they always have girls meet them at the airport and it always works out well for them.
That's OK too, but I prefer to assume, especially for the Phils, that "if something can go wrong, it will". After 20 years living here, this assumption works for me.
MrWoolyBooly
11-11-16, 04:11
Do not let them pick you up, its that simple.
They are masters at getting you to reveal your info. For instance you arrive, get a sim, she says why you need a sim card, you are with me.
Arrive in hotel, she will check out all your bags. " oh why so many condom, we are together ".
You will have no privacy as you are now hers.
She will know your hotel, room, maybe has even seen your real name.
Arrive, get to hotel, get organized then invite her over. Not at the airport.All solid advice.
- You are always on a business trip. When you are "working" you are unreachable.
- Your boss or customer or colleague is picking you up and dropping you off.
- (If your budget allows, your stuff is all kept at the "office", I. E. Your cheap hotel dive near your nice one.).
- You don't know what hotel you will stay in until you arrive because "the company" arranges it. This has an advantage in case a clever Pinay sees the name renting the room. "That's our firm's travel manager. ".
- If you are or can fake an office-type, you're an accountant. If you're blue collar through and through, you're a security consultant.
- Generally blame anything she doesn't like about your schedule or whereabouts or even energy level on "work".
SergeantRay
11-11-16, 05:15
On my second trip to the PI I had a penpal meet me at the airport. The whole family showed up, and I ended up paying for the jeepney. This girl had a drug user boyfriend who offered to marry her, but the father said "no. " Of course, all this was unknown to me.
The whole trip I was stuck with her, even though she wasn't into me, and there were zero sparks. My stay with the family was great, but romantically and sexually it was a zero. Mom and dad were hoping she would choose me over the POS boyfriend--that didn't happen. In retrospect, I was a newbie who got played from the first moment.
Don't let her meet you at the airport. Make it clear that you are a free agent. This is your leverage. --Not that you're going to manipulate somebody, but you're not some idiot who's going to get screwed. She has to up her game, and at the first moment you feel you are getting used you can move on.
Member #4558
11-11-16, 07:21
Assuming you are a first timer here its no wonder you ask. When I was a very nube to the pinay scene I thought it would be fun to give the "girl meet me at the airport" a shot. And it worked out just fine. She brought her chaperone (another girl) and they drove me to my hotel and we boinked (the chaperone waited at the mall close by). But even so it was stressful times because I wasn't able to do my usual preparations solo.
In aftermath I never did it again because I think its plain stupid and represent a risk factor you don't need in Phils. There are huge loads of willing young pukie standing around to meet you and even come to your hotel or wherever you want to meet them at.
I soon found out arriving alone (airport / hotel), get installed, stock up with beers / drinks, shower and shit is the way to go before playtime starts. Everything told you here is very sound advice.
What a great story and a great experience. Most of us would like to hear more of the story.
On my second trip to the PI I had a penpal meet me at the airport. The whole family showed up, and I ended up paying for the jeepney. This girl had a drug user boyfriend who offered to marry her, but the father said "no. " Of course, all this was unknown to me.
The whole trip I was stuck with her, even though she wasn't into me, and there were zero sparks. My stay with the family was great, but romantically and sexually it was a zero. Mom and dad were hoping she would choose me over the POS boyfriend--that didn't happen. In retrospect, I was a newbie who got played from the first moment.
Don't let her meet you at the airport. Make it clear that you are a free agent. This is your leverage. --Not that you're going to manipulate somebody, but you're not some idiot who's going to get screwed. She has to up her game, and at the first moment you feel you are getting used you can move on.
Wicked Roger
11-11-16, 15:06
Hello fellow mongers,
Like many of us, I also stroll dating sites before going to visit some honeypot city and this works surely best for the Philippines I believe. Now recently more than before I had girls proposing to come and pick me up from the airport and I was wondering what is your experience with this and what do you think is the reason for them to do so.You have some good advice from from seasoned veterans Lloydd72.
They put it eloquently but me? In one word "never".
Thank you for confirming my guts feeling to not get into this warm welcoming procedure. Setting up base is probably the best thing to do before getting out there. I was pleasantly surprised about the amount of feedback you guys came with. Nice to see this community alive.
Then another question; I will be staying in Manila way to short but those 5 nights, even though during weekdays, I would like to take some girl dancing in a club and have some nice time before getting back home. Any suggestions what club is worth visiting these days in Makati? I am from Holland and I really appreciate good electronic dance music!
Member #4420
11-12-16, 02:19
I have a question to the experienced mongers which is kinda similar to what Lloydd72 asked:
When I was living in Philippines many girls offered me to go with to their farms or their villages which are usually located 1-4 hours from the city, I always declined as I was in Davao and roaming around Mindanao is a big no-no for me, soon I will go and live in Cebu and when I get these offers in Cebu I might say yes, though before I say that yes which I might regret so I want to take your opinion guys regarding what the girls are expecting / aiming for with these offers?
And how about me if I went with a girl lets say to her farm so what type of experience / atmosphere should I expect?
SergeantRay
11-12-16, 04:21
What a great story and a great experience. Most of us would like to hear more of the story.In looking back at my post, I realize it sounds like the parents were manipulating me. Actually, they were great people trying to doing the best for their daughter, who was totally smitten (unbeknownst to me) with a drug-using POS.
This was in the old days before the internet. The parents were encouraging their daughter to meet and marry a foreigner. At that point I was lonely, desperate, and would have married her because I found it hard to believe that any Filipina might be interested in me. She had a number of foreigners writing to her via old-fashioned letters, but I was the only one who included a coupon (available at your local post office) which was good for free international postage. The parents said that this was a factor in them choosing me over other men writing to her. International postage of a buck or two was a financial burden for the family.
I gather that many of the men corresponding with her were armchair masturbators who sent her vulgar messages, and one who sent her a pair of panties in the mail. For the losers who think that this is a game-winning move, she told me when she recounted the incident, "What am I supposed to do with these?" She had no use for them.
I'll always remember that trip because it was my first taste of province life--drinking bahalina with Coke, seeing a gecko fall onto someone's hand, attending a barrio fiesta (I paid for our table.), hearing neighbors sing every song in the Tom Jones repertoire--which surprised me--listening to the story of a fisherman who saw his brother get a cramp underwater and slowly slide down into the depths, never to return. In time I realized the house had no running water, that there was no garbage service (so it was burn and bury), and that the parents had given up their bedroom for me. It was the first time I saw Filipinos eat with their hands: I was the only person at the table with a spoon and fork.
If you follow the news, the mayor of Albuera was just killed in a jail raid, and his son Kerwin was the Visayas' number one drug dealer. I know Albuera because this is where I stayed with my penpal's family and attended the town fiesta.
I remember that trip for a million reasons, all of them good, except romantically and sexually it was a total loss. She just wasn't into me, and I didn't know why. It was only later that I put the pieces together.
I didn't know then that I had options. If I had known that I would have had leverage, or I could have simply moved on. I should have arrived at Ormoc (near Albuera) on my own. If she was distant and cold, as turned out to be the case, I could have delivered the ultimatum, as I've learned to do. It's not a threat, it's not coercion--it's a simple statement of the facts: if you're not into me sexually, fine; I will go elsewhere. This very quickly eliminates the bullshit.
So I stayed the whole two or three weeks, and it was a wonderful trip, with the exception that she and I went nowhere.
I went back to the US, and later received an odd letter. She had borrowed her mom's wedding ring, but had lost it or it had fallen down the sink--I forget which. She needed me to send her money so she could buy a replacement so she wouldn't get into trouble. As dumb as I was then, something sounded wrong. I told her honesty was the best policy.
How ironic, because her story was a lie. She had become pregnant by the POS boyfriend and had moved in with him. The guy came to the father to ask permission to marry her, but dad said no. When you turn down a guy who offers to marry your pregnant daughter, things are bad indeed.
The parents wrote me eventually, asking if there was ever anything between the two of us, and explaining the situation. I had to answer no.
Believe it or not--and it's painful for me to admit it--I was so desperate and naive that I was still going to meet her and be her "savior. " Thank God at the last minute I realized just how stupid that was, and I wrote to tell them that, no, I wasn't going back to Albuera.
The moral of this long story (and there's even more to it) was that you may show up in the Philippines and there are hidden agendas. Everybody will know what's going on except you. You DO have options, if you are smart enough to play them. You can't put all your eggs in one basket, especially because you've stumbled into the middle of a situation as one clueless bastard. Everyone will talk about your "girlfriend's" boyfriend or husband right in front of your face in Cebuano, and you will sit there like a grinning idiot.
You have to be independent and make it clear that you will move on to multiple other options if it's not working out. If she meets you at the airport you are controlled from moment one and effectively surrender your leverage and options.
Mr Enternational
11-12-16, 04:22
When I was living in Philippines many girls offered me to go with to their farms or their villages which are usually located 1-4 hours from the city, I always declined as I was in Davao and roaming around Mindanao is a big no-no for me, soon I will go and live in Cebu and when I get these offers in Cebu I might say yes, though before I say that yes which I might regret so I want to take your opinion guys regarding what the girls are expecting / aiming for with these offers?
And how about me if I went with a girl lets say to her farm so what type of experience / atmosphere should I expect?Why wouldn't you go before? Why are you having a change of heart now? I don't know about you, but my camping days are over!
SergeantRay
11-12-16, 04:50
I have a question to the experienced mongers which is kinda similar to what Lloydd72 asked:
When I was living in Philippines many girls offered me to go with to their farms or their villages which are usually located 1-4 hours from the city, I always declined as I was in Davao and roaming around Mindanao is a big no-no for me, soon I will go and live in Cebu and when I get these offers in Cebu I might say yes, though before I say that yes which I might regret so I want to take your opinion guys regarding what the girls are expecting / aiming for with these offers?
And how about me if I went with a girl lets say to her farm so what type of experience / atmosphere should I expect?If you're just looking to get laid, there are better, easier ways than going into the province. But if you're really into the girl, and / or you value the experience of seeing genuine Filipino life, the trip into the province is worth it.
I met a girl in Cebu and followed her to Samboan, a remote town on the other side of Cebu island. Once we got to Samboan, we still had to take a habal-habal which went up narrow goat trails way up into the mountains. I remember walking through corn fields with a spectacular view across the Tañon Strait to Negros. When we got to her house I sat in the brutal humidity, exhausted from the climb, sweating like a pig, and desperate for someone to offer me a glass of water. It never came. While I was near heatstroke, they were all cool as cucumbers, and totally oblivious to my agony.
I gave every kid--and the place was crawling with them--a five peso coin, which thrilled them. They babbled in Cebuano all day and listened to the Cebuano radio by kerosene lamps at night. Eventually the two of us shared a bed, which shocked me, because we were staying with her mom. I was too nervous to do anything other than kiss her. Plus there was a cute little kid sleeping on the floor beside us. At some point in the night while we were asleep, crammed into a tiny bamboo bed, she rolled off the bed in her sleep!
The next morning I got up and showered in the outhouse, scooping water out of a 50-gallon drum.
If you go into the province stock up on your coins and small change--the provincial economy runs on nickels and dimes. Be ready to rough it. Bring a bottle of liquor, and be prepared to buy food and drinks for the family--it's not only appreciated, it's fun.
A friend of mine, dead now, God rest his soul, told me of staying with his girlfriend out in the province and watching the bats at night swoop in to snatch mosquitoes off his arm hanging on the window ledge. It's memories like these that make it all worth it.
Member #4420
11-12-16, 04:58
SergeantRay:
"or you value the experience of seeing genuine Filipino life" exactly, its this part which making me interested to try this experience, which you covered so well in your post, I guess I will give it a try and surly it will be something memorable either way. Thank you.
Mr Enternational:
I was in Davao (Mindanao) before so I was very cautious in any step outside of Davao, but now I will be in Cebu (Visayas) so I am looking forward to adventures outside of Cebu as well.
Roll Aides
11-12-16, 07:50
I think this a great report, also SergeantRay's other ones same topic, and they really give a feeling of what it's like here. I would add just one thing, which is getting Hep A and yellow fever inoculations before staying in the deep provinces is probably a smart move. The experience is totally worth it, in any event.
If you're just looking to get laid, there are better, easier ways than going into the province. But if you're really into the girl, and / or you value the experience of seeing genuine Filipino life, the trip into the province is worth it.
I met a girl in Cebu and followed her to Samboan, a remote town on the other side of Cebu island. Once we got to Samboan, we still had to take a habal-habal which went up narrow goat trails way up into the mountains. I remember walking through corn fields with a spectacular view across the Taon Strait to Negros. When we got to her house I sat in the brutal humidity, exhausted from the climb, sweating like a pig, and desperate for someone to offer me a glass of water. It never came. While I was near heatstroke, they were all cool as cucumbers, and totally oblivious to my agony.
I gave every kid--and the place was crawling with them--a five peso coin, which thrilled them. They babbled in Cebuano all day and listened to the Cebuano radio by kerosene lamps at night. Eventually the two of us shared a bed, which shocked me, because we were staying with her mom. I was too nervous to do anything other than kiss her. Plus there was a cute little kid sleeping on the floor beside us. At some point in the night while we were asleep, crammed into a tiny bamboo bed, she rolled off the bed in her sleep!
The next morning I got up and showered in the outhouse, scooping water out of a 50-gallon drum.
If you go into the province stock up on your coins and small change--the provincial economy runs on nickels and dimes. Be ready to rough it. Bring a bottle of liquor, and be prepared to buy food and drinks for the family--it's not only appreciated, it's fun.
A friend of mine, dead now, God rest his soul, told me of staying with his girlfriend out in the province and watching the bats at night swoop in to snatch mosquitoes off his arm hanging on the window ledge. It's memories like these that make it all worth it.
BaddHabbit
11-12-16, 12:49
Silly girl. Everyone knows that Australia is in Europe.Near Germany, right?
MrWoolyBooly
11-13-16, 19:12
Fuck, its not easy to live as monger. All the precaution one has to think of.Indeed. In the most thorough cases, a distinct separate account for everything. Or just stay / get single and tell anyone snooping into your private affairs to...nevermind. Juggling too many dates surely prompts a lot of creative storytelling, too.
I have noticed lately that the quality of girls available via referrals is on average so much better than any faster methods, right up there with the high end P4P but without having to constantly haggle. The total expense is less if done right, just spent in other ways. As always, it's a time vs. money tradeoff. It pays off big time to make lots of good "normal" friends of either or any gender.
I'm trying to make plans to visit the greater manila area. I have a lot of questions. Can someone give me some sound advice.
What are the girl-friendly hotels?
Can you buy Cialis like you can in Tijuana?
Where would you strongly encourage me not to go?
Whats the going rates for 'company'?
Do they serve Fireball there?
What's the weather like in December?
Where are the 'chill places,? You know like where I can go to a nice bar and meet a normal looking woman that I can take back to my room?
Koperen Klaas
11-13-16, 21:08
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A friend of mine, dead now, God rest his soul, told me of staying with his girlfriend out in the province and watching the bats at night swoop in to snatch mosquitoes off his arm hanging on the window ledge. It's memories like these that make it all worth it.Be careful with bats. Many of them are infected with rabies and you don't want to catch that. If you're not vaccinated and you're too far from a hospital with the correct serum in stock, it's a very unpleasant way to die.
Regards,
Ko.
Fatherhood might not cost you anything out of pocket. I did some research lately for a Filipina with a child fathered by an American. Turns out there is a Social Security monthly benefit payments for the minor child and or children fathered by the retiree. Nothing is deducted from the retiree's benefits.
First the child's birth has to be reported to the Manila USA Embassy, DNA maybe required and an interview will be required. After that the child will be issued a USA passport and Social Security number to collect the benefits.
There is a 5 year USA residency requirements for the father prior to the child's birth. Otherwise support payments are paid from your benefits package.
As always consult legal counsel.
I'm trying to make plans to visit the greater manila area. I have a lot of questions. Can someone give me some sound advice.
What are the girl-friendly hotels?
Can you buy Cialis like you can in Tijuana?
Where would you strongly encourage me not to go?
Whats the going rates for 'company'?
Do they serve Fireball there?
What's the weather like in December?
Where are the 'chill places,? You know like where I can go to a nice bar and meet a normal looking woman that I can take back to my room?1. Every hotel is GF unless there is a sign posted otherwise.
2. Cialis is sold by exclusive street pharmacy reps.
3. Don't go to NGO's.
4. Rates are "up to you".
5. Bring your own.
6. Warm, cooler on some days, sunny on some when it is not cloudy.
7. In any nice chill bars with normal girls.
FreebieFan
11-15-16, 01:34
I'm trying to make plans to visit the greater manila area. I have a lot of questions. Can someone give me some sound advice.
What are the girl-friendly hotels?
Can you buy Cialis like you can in Tijuana?
Where would you strongly encourage me not to go?
Whats the going rates for 'company'?
Do they serve Fireball there?
What's the weather like in December?
Where are the 'chill places,? You know like where I can go to a nice bar and meet a normal looking woman that I can take back to my room?What is Fireball? Food. Drink. Pulutan. A type / species / race of person. An object from outer space?
Wicked Roger
11-15-16, 02:17
I'm trying to make plans to visit the greater manila area. I have a lot of questions. Can someone give me some sound advice.
What are the girl-friendly hotels?
Can you buy Cialis like you can in Tijuana?
Where would you strongly encourage me not to go?
Whats the going rates for 'company'?
Do they serve Fireball there?
What's the weather like in December?
Where are the 'chill places,? You know like where I can go to a nice bar and meet a normal looking woman that I can take back to my room?FF. Fireball is a Deep Purple album ('Somke on the Water".
Jason. You are grand manager well done and welcome so go RTFF and find the words 'give and take", "contribute / contribution' and then after many informative FRs then ask questions.
But as you intro yourself with a series of questions on the Philippines thread can be answered by RTFF or Google or calling up hotels and asking them you are a grand manager. Try asking on the India thread as many fellow managers post there also.
What does NGO stand for.
1. Every hotel is GF unless there is a sign posted otherwise.
2. Cialis is sold by exclusive street pharmacy reps.
3. Don't go to NGO's.
4. Rates are "up to you".
5. Bring your own.
6. Warm, cooler on some days, sunny on some when it is not cloudy.
7. In any nice chill bars with normal girls.
BrainDrain
11-15-16, 10:08
6. Warm, cooler on some days, sunny on some when it is not cloudy.Thanks for going to the effort of replying. I am sure the rest of us ignored the post but I appreciate your answers. But I'm worried about answer 6. It has also been know to be wet when raining and not rain when dry. I think this visitor needs to be aware of that.
What is Fireball? Food. Drink. Pulutan. A type / species / race of person. An object from outer space?Fireball is a Canadian brand whisky.
Sometimes used in the woods if you have crabs or lice. Pour it over your pelvic area and light it on fire. Thusly called Fireball! This is a joke. Do not try at home.
What does NGO stand for.Non Government Organization. Or non-profit groups out to stop [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908).
Thanks for going to the effort of replying. I am sure the rest of us ignored the post but I appreciate your answers. But I'm worried about answer 6. It has also been know to be wet when raining and not rain when dry. I think this visitor needs to be aware of that.Not much effort I just RTFF. I did miss it on #6, thanks for the assist. It should also be duly noted that on sunny days to always carry an umbrella for the lady.
Chocha Monger
11-15-16, 22:40
After denying it for months, Sen. Leila de Lima finally confessed to fucking her driver, Ronnie Dayan, over a period of several years. She now faces the possibility of being charged with adultery and removed from office. De Lima has lost all credibility and her confession makes allegations of Dayan being her bag man for the collection of drug money more believable. The senator explained her conduct as simply being the "frailties of a woman" and insisted that the public respect her privacy and refrain from passing further judgment on her behavior.
This turn of events illustrates why one should never believe anything coming out of a Filipina's mouth. They will deny the obvious for months or even years, and there is always a driver servicing their sexual needs in the shadows, this is often, but not always, a trike driver. De Lima's case also gives lie to the myth that the wealthy, old, or middle-aged pinays are more stable and less likely to engage in sordid sexual affairs with trike drivers and street pharmacists. It also shows the importance of paying attention to political scandals in the Philippines as they often provide a large scale snapshot of the culture and a reflection of the attitudes and values of the average Filipino.
See full article here: http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/844661/de-lima-in-deeper-trouble-says-aguirre.
Fireball is a Canadian brand whisky.
Sometimes used in the woods if you have crabs or lice. Pour it over your pelvic area and light it on fire. Thusly called Fireball! This is a joke. Do not try at home.I'm Canadian and can verify this. It is painful but effective. Keep the kindling close to transfer the ashes so you can stay warm at night in the winter at your campsite.
After denying it for months, Sen. Leila de Lima finally confessed to fucking her driver, Ronnie Dayan, over a period of several years. It also shows the importance of paying attention to political scandals in the Philippines as they often provide a large scale snapshot of the culture and a reflection of the attitudes and values of the average Filipino.
On my last visit to the Philippines I met a well educated late forties woman who is employed in a mid upper position with the government. Even though she has been separated for ten plus years she insisted that she be checked in to our room under my surname. Her reason was simply that adultery is illegal in the Philippines. She was taking no chances. She feels she still has upward mobility.
I read that de Lima's driver now has a one million p reward on his head. Now the only question is will he be found dead or alive. It's turned into a high stakes game.
On my last visit to the Philippines I met a well educated late forties woman who is employed in a mid upper position with the government. Even though she has been separated for ten plus years she insisted that she be checked in to our room under my surname. Her reason was simply that adultery is illegal in the Philippines. She was taking no chances. She feels she still has upward mobility.
I read that de Lima's driver now has a one million p reward on his head. Now the only question is will he be found dead or alive. It's turned into a high stakes game.As I understand it, actually from reports here, there is a big punishment for adultery. Even for the person having sex with the married one. Some have reported shakedown extortion on the person.
My vote is the driver will die from shootout with the police with a few kilos of drugs in his pocket.
SergeantRay
11-16-16, 03:40
Be careful with bats. Many of them are infected with rabies and you don't want to catch that. If you're not vaccinated and you're too far from a hospital with the correct serum in stock, it's a very unpleasant way to die.
Regards,
Ko.I was staying with a GF in the province when I spied something like a spear in the corner. "What's this?" I asked.
Grandpa used it to catch bats. He'd go into an abandoned house and as they were swirling around in flight, he'd reach up with the two barbed prongs and snag bats, which he would then cook and eat.
Soapy Smith
11-17-16, 08:56
Fireball is a Canadian brand whisky.
Sometimes used in the woods if you have crabs or lice. Pour it over your pelvic area and light it on fire. Thusly called Fireball! This is a joke. Do not try at home.A more recent variant often proves more effective:
First, shave a fire break right down the middle of the public hair. Also, secure an ice pick and have it ready. Then pour and ignite on both sides of the firebreak. As the bugs run into the firebreak to get away from the fire, stab them with the ice pick.
Drukyul2000
11-19-16, 11:20
Assuming you are a first timer here its no wonder you ask. When I was a very nube to the pinay scene I thought it would be fun to give the "girl meet me at the airport" a shot. And it worked out just fine. She brought her chaperone (another girl) and they drove me to my hotel and we boinked (the chaperone waited at the mall close by). But even so it was stressful times because I wasn't able to do my usual preparations solo.
In aftermath I never did it again because I think its plain stupid and represent a risk factor you don't need in Phils. Everything told you here is very sound advice.Thank you for the advice, it appears to be consistent with others mongers too. I too had the same query, well it's answered now so 'airport pick up' for me too.
BrainDrain
11-20-16, 12:39
Thank you for the advice, it appears to be consistent with others mongers too. I too had the same query, well it's answered now so 'airport pick up' for me too.I am a fan of the airport pickup but not for newbies. My experience:
AC girl that I met in AC, invited her to join me for an overnight when I arrived next trip in NAIA at 11 pm and departed 10 am next day.
AC girl I met before met me next trip on 11 pm flight we stayed together and we both flew out next day, she had friend that night.
AC girls x 4 met me with friends x 3 and we bused to AC.
Twice I've had Pinalove Manila girls met me at NAIA and it worked out well.
Cebu girl timed to arrive at NAIA same time as my flight from Singapore, her Cebu Pacific flight 4 hours late. What a mess but the bj in the hotel pickup van was worth it and she swallowed it all.
Cebu girl meets me at Cebu, twice has worked well.
I think for a newbie, it's not recommended. For me now I'm comfortable to do it and if it's not looking good happy to pay for her to go on her way. Never had to do that.
I have a question to the experienced mongers which is kinda similar to what Lloydd72 asked:
When I was living in Philippines many girls offered me to go with to their farms or their villages which are usually located 1-4 hours from the city, I always declined as I was in Davao and roaming around Mindanao is a big no-no for me, soon I will go and live in Cebu and when I get these offers in Cebu I might say yes, though before I say that yes which I might regret so I want to take your opinion guys regarding what the girls are expecting / aiming for with these offers?
And how about me if I went with a girl lets say to her farm so what type of experience / atmosphere should I expect?If your ready to pay / support for her entire family (30-1000 peeps) then go otherwise stay the fuck in Cebu. LOL If you have a child with her than expect that for the rest of your natural life LOL. If sleeping in a shack and taking a shit in a hole in the back fits your needs then go.
PC out.
Great use of the "if clause". Do you have a story to support your "ifs"?
If your ready to pay / support for her entire family (30-1000 peeps) then go otherwise stay the fuck in Cebu. LOL If you have a child with her than expect that for the rest of your natural life LOL. If sleeping in a shack and taking a shit in a hole in the back fits your needs then go.
PC out.
Member #4420
11-20-16, 23:59
Have you guys noticed how many Filipinas in dating sites make sure to take their profile picture with an "air conditioner" in the background?
I also had many Filipinas pretending to never tasting Filipino street foods before, once in Davao I even had a Filipina who denies knowing where Roxas street is located (its a famous street that sell second hand clothes) before I realized that Roxas street is actually located exactly on her way between home, work.
But my funniest experience happened with a girl in a park, we were getting know each other and talking about life in Philippines / Europe.
So I mentioned how I miss Jeepneys when I am back to my country, she replied that she never ever rode a Jeepney in her life as she always ride taxis, minutes later I received an sms about something important and had to go back to my apartment so we agreed to delay the meeting for the day after.
We said bye bye and left the park, outside the park there are taxi stop / jeepney stop, I stood there waiting for my Jeepney while she also stood there waiting awkwardly even though there are many taxis, so I told her "these taxis are vacant" , she replied "umm uhh errr yes but I am thinking if I take a taxi from bla bla streets it will be better" and then she walked fast leaving the street with an embarrassed face.
Do these girls seriously think that a foreigner in Philippines will give a fuck about whether they ride taxis or own an air condition? LOL.
Member #4558
11-21-16, 01:09
So I mentioned how I miss Jeepneys when I am back to my country
Do these girls seriously think that a foreigner in Philippines will give a fuck about whether they ride taxis or own an air condition? LOL.No, the only thing I wonder is where in Europe you are from since you miss Jeepneys? I have a one suggestions where horse and wagon is still, today, not a rare sight.
Fastpiston
11-21-16, 23:25
If your ready to pay / support for her entire family (30-1000 peeps) then go otherwise stay the fuck in Cebu. LOL If you have a child with her than expect that for the rest of your natural life LOL. If sleeping in a shack and taking a shit in a hole in the back fits your needs then go.
PC out.And do not fall for buying a house for you to live in with your dream woman. By Philippine law, foreigners cannot own a house. It will be in HER name. So she could boot you out anytime and your money is gone. Marrying the woman makes no difference. Do not jump into the pool without checking if there is water in the pool! Understand the law in the Philippines that gives foreigners virtually no financial protection.
Fastpiston
11-21-16, 23:29
Have you guys noticed how many Filipinas in dating sites make sure to take their profile picture with an "air conditioner" in the background?
I also had many Filipinas pretending to never tasting Filipino street foods before, once in Davao I even had a Filipina who denies knowing where Roxas street is located (its a famous street that sell second hand clothes) before I realized that Roxas street is actually located exactly on her way between home, work.
But my funniest experience happened with a girl in a park, we were getting know each other and talking about life in Philippines / Europe.
So I mentioned how I miss Jeepneys when I am back to my country, she replied that she never ever rode a Jeepney in her life as she always ride taxis, minutes later I received an sms about something important and had to go back to my apartment so we agreed to delay the meeting for the day after.
We said bye bye and left the park, outside the park there are taxi stop / jeepney stop, I stood there waiting for my Jeepney while she also stood there waiting awkwardly even though there are many taxis, so I told her "these taxis are vacant" , she replied "umm uhh errr yes but I am thinking if I take a taxi from bla bla streets it will be better" and then she walked fast leaving the street with an embarrassed face.
Do these girls seriously think that a foreigner in Philippines will give a fuck about whether they ride taxis or own an air condition? LOL.That is no problem, play along with it, make her feel proud, nice, happy, good! Remember your objective!
Fastpiston
11-21-16, 23:41
As I understand it, actually from reports here, there is a big punishment for adultery. Even for the person having sex with the married one. Some have reported shakedown extortion on the person.
My vote is the driver will die from shootout with the police with a few kilos of drugs in his pocket.Before getting married in the Philippines, it is best to understand the Catholic oriented laws that are there. Yes, adultery laws are severe. Also if a married man has sex with someone else, there are 'concubinism' laws that are very severe. Most Filipinos ignore these laws as they have no money. But if your are a foreigner married to a Filipino, then the financial incentives to hit you are juicy! The laws also apply to a foreigner having sex with a married Filipina, the husband can get the foreigner imprisoned. The law does give a possible letout if the wife is a bar girl or in the 'business'. An English guy got into real trouble a few back, who had sex and kid with a married Filipino whose husband was away in Dubai.
Fastpiston
11-21-16, 23:50
After denying it for months, Sen. Leila de Lima finally confessed to fucking her driver, Ronnie Dayan, over a period of several years. She now faces the possibility of being charged with adultery and removed from office. De Lima has lost all credibility and her confession makes allegations of Dayan being her bag man for the collection of drug money more believable. The senator explained her conduct as simply being the "frailties of a woman" and insisted that the public respect her privacy and refrain from passing further judgment on her behavior.
This turn of events illustrates why one should never believe anything coming out of a Filipina's mouth. They will deny the obvious for months or even years, and there is always a driver servicing their sexual needs in the shadows, this is often, but not always, a trike driver. De Lima's case also gives lie to the myth that the wealthy, old, or middle-aged pinays are more stable and less likely to engage in sordid sexual affairs with trike drivers and street pharmacists. It also shows the importance of paying attention to political scandals in the Philippines as they often provide a large scale snapshot of the culture and a reflection of the attitudes and values of the average Filipino.
See full article here: http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/844661/de-lima-in-deeper-trouble-says-aguirre.There are also some instructive YouTube pieces by Filipinas who tell openly and sincerely how they play the game on foreigners. Best are the ones by bargirls who talk very sincerely on how they operate. One podcast I saw was really excellent and should be mandatory for any monger going to the Philippines! Very common is having a Filipino boyfriend while having the one and only relationship with a foreigner. The boyfriend actually ends up being visible, but introduced as a 'brother' or 'cousin'. I even know some married foreigners who have the 'cousin' staying in the same house!!
FreebieFan
11-22-16, 07:02
I truly know that this subject comes up from time to time, and we all have a good comment about what curriculum is followed here, and we exchange wry smiles about the girls who think Europe is a city in Australia. But. Just had a chat with a lady in Cavite who claims to have graduated. Asked me where I am now. I replied Beijing.
She said sorry, but where's that? . got to be something wrong somewhere if students arent being even taught world capitals. With 25 million give or take its not like Beijing is a small place.
Drukyul2000
11-22-16, 07:43
I am a fan of the airport pickup but not for newbies.
I think for a newbie, it's not recommended. For me now I'm comfortable to do it and if it's not looking good happy to pay for her to go on her way. Never had to do that.Thank you for the suggestion, I consider myself a newbie and will stay away from the airport pickup game till I'm confident that I can handle the situation. I too like getting into a hotel and relaxing a bit, being oneself before taking my little bro take control.
Soapy Smith
11-22-16, 14:41
Just had a chat with a lady in Cavite who claims to have graduated. Asked me where I am now. I replied Beijing.
She said sorry, but where's that? . got to be something wrong somewhere if students arent being even taught world capitals. With 25 million give or take its not like Beijing is a small place.Keep in mind that we Yanks were their most recent colonizers, and, like us, they can recite "sports stats, details about the lives of celebrities, movie / TV trivia, the intricacies of computer games, etc. " Also, like Americans, their country is separated from most of the rest of the world by large expanses of water. Whereas Americans can afford to travel internationally, most lack the intellectual curiosity to do so. Filipinos at least have a couple of excuses: high public school dropout rates and, for most of them, income levels that preclude international travel.
It appears that, where geographic literacy is concerned, Filipinos simply take after their colonizers and most influential foreign allies. Better for a Yank to acknowledge this, methinks, than for a Brit to point it out.
http://hubpages.com/education/American-Ignorance-of-Global-Geography
Mr Enternational
11-22-16, 15:07
who claims to have graduated. Asked me where I am now. I replied Beijing.
She said sorry, but where's that? . got to be something wrong somewhere if students arent being even taught world capitals. With 25 million give or take its not like Beijing is a small place.And you think that if I mentioned Beijing to most Americans they would know where it is? I am here to tell you that they would not. Traveling is your lifestyle so it is expected for you to know. For what reason does someone who is not going anywhere need to know?
Wicked Roger
11-22-16, 16:22
And you think that if I mentioned Beijing to most Americans they would know where it is? I am here to tell you that they would not. Traveling is your lifestyle so it is expected for you to know. For what reason does someone who is not going anywhere need to know?Look for CNNNN the Chasers as this gives some credence to Mr E's claim but the Brits are as bad in some ways.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0TK_vk-XDM
Told a guy that I was going to go to Tokyo. He replied that he'd also like to go to China someday.
And you think that if I mentioned Beijing to most Americans they would know where it is? I am here to tell you that they would not. Traveling is your lifestyle so it is expected for you to know. For what reason does someone who is not going anywhere need to know?
Nothing gives me a bigger O than when the Pinay is cowgirling me, waving her her right arm high in the air screaming out world city names! Athens, Dublin, Edinburg, London and Nassau Bay!
Question? What do all those cities have in common?
Drukyul2000
11-22-16, 21:00
And you think that if I mentioned Beijing to most Americans they would know where it is? I am here to tell you that they would not. Traveling is your lifestyle so it is expected for you to know. For what reason does someone who is not going anywhere need to know?No way that I want to start a fight here but really? Do we need to know world capitals or geography only if someone is going to travel? I found this very weird, given the fact people like me rely or take things said here quite seriously. Aren't the world capitals like taught in primary schools and continued till high school. Don't people watch or read the news? Don't they breathe or eat?
BrainDrain
11-23-16, 01:23
I truly know that this subject comes up from time to time, and we all have a good comment about what curriculum is followed here, and we exchange wry smiles about the girls who think Europe is a city in Australia. But. Just had a chat with a lady in Cavite who claims to have graduated. Asked me where I am now. I replied Beijing.
I can put you in contact with a housemaid in Cebu whom will blitz you on world capitals. She is great fun to banter with and she knows the most obscure counties and their capital cities.
She has the most amazing round buttocks, such a sexy woman too.
For me, she has aged out and is now over 29, she is now looking for an education sponsor.
Happy to put anyone in contact.
BD.
FreebieFan
11-23-16, 01:34
And you think that if I mentioned Beijing to most Americans they would know where it is? I am here to tell you that they would not. Traveling is your lifestyle so it is expected for you to know. For what reason does someone who is not going anywhere need to know?Three important capital cities in geo political terms at moment are. Beijing, Moscow and I forget the other one. Can't have been that important. LOL.
Three important capital cities in geo political terms at moment are. Beijing, Moscow and I forget the other one. Can't have been that important. LOL.That would have to be Manila!
Jack Burton
11-24-16, 02:40
I was on PL and came across a decent looking woman in her late 20s whose profile was intriguing.
Nazis and global warming?! Oh joy! This may be the elusive intellect you've been searching for. I sent her a message.
Or you could just stick your dick in her mouth.
Your holiday is yours.I'd hit that. Your inbox is full. Maybe from other mongers who would also hit that?
And do not fall for buying a house for you to live in with your dream woman. By Philippine law, foreigners cannot own a house. It will be in HER name. So she could boot you out anytime and your money is gone. Marrying the woman makes no difference. Do not jump into the pool without checking if there is water in the pool! Understand the law in the Philippines that gives foreigners virtually no financial protection.Do I hear an AMEN LOL.
AMEN. Most foolish thing one could do given the laws of the Wild East haha.
PC out.
BrainDrain
12-04-16, 23:38
In various threads we hear of people comparing a western hometown call girl (one hour) service to a filipina barfine or freelance or casual dater.
I just want to recognise the amazing social skills of the Filipina that will join a total stranger for a day or more, be his lover, enjoy meals with him, make small talk, run errands, meet him an airport etc etc.
I know this does not hold 100% true but. There is a better than average chance that a filipina can convince a guy that he is the one.
Discuss?
BD.
Agteed. The Filipinas are very easy to be with. Their simplicity is a strength. I like it when they say "up to you". I can't recall an intellectual conversation with even college educated Pinays but who cares? With a sexy, willing body and a carefree attitude they are the most delightful group I've ever met. /
In various threads we hear of people comparing a western hometown call girl (one hour) service to a filipina barfine or freelance or casual dater.
I just want to recognise the amazing social skills of the Filipina that will join a total stranger for a day or more, be his lover, enjoy meals with him, make small talk, run errands, meet him an airport etc etc.
I know this does not hold 100% true but. There is a better than average chance that a filipina can convince a guy that he is the one.
Discuss?
BD..
And you think that if I mentioned Beijing to most Americans they would know where it is? I am here to tell you that they would not.Don't know where is Beijing? If most Americans you know don't know where is Beijing, I am here to tell you that the company you keep are some kind of non-educative, ghettoized sub-group of Americans.
Member #4566
12-05-16, 03:35
Agteed. With a sexy, willing body and a carefree attitude Pinays are the most delightful group I've ever met. That's true until of course the money runs out.
Yes but that is true with any broad anywhere. Rare exceptions.
That's true until of course the money runs out..
BrainDrain
12-05-16, 07:08
That's true until of course the money runs out.This is a monger forum and I was comparing call pricing, so money is understood to be involved.
But that's the rub. The really good filipina never make you feel that it is.
WestCoast1
12-05-16, 07:34
I just want to recognise the amazing social skills of the Filipina that will join a total stranger for a day or more, be his lover, enjoy meals with him, make small talk, run errands, meet him an airport etc etc.GFE+.
More than a day. And repeat, and repeat. When this pic was taken, it was her 4th trip to spend several days with me (at the ripe old age of 19 then, 20 now). Knows nothing of short time, she stays for several nights. Sweet as cherry pie, smiles often, opinionated but speaks in whispers. Runs errands and brings change. Hates it when pinoy try and apply the higher-tier price to my gringo self. Massages my head to sleep when we turn the lights out. Beat that. Oh I can beat that: Once she brought a friend, and another time she brought a cousin. Don't find that in Mexico.
Soapy Smith
12-05-16, 18:26
Don't know where is Beijing? If most Americans you know don't know where is Beijing, I am here to tell you that the company you keep are some kind of non-educative, ghettoized sub-group of Americans.I think you have this sort of backward. If all the Americans you hang out with know where Beijing is, you need to understand you are not hanging out in typical company. What you would be telling Mr. E would be incorrect. Or is the National Geographic Society an unreliable source?
http://www.esri.com/news/arcnews/spring09articles/geographic-literacy.html
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/05/0502_060502_geography.html
http://hubpages.com/education/American-Ignorance-of-Global-Geography
BrainDrain
12-14-16, 13:24
As an alternative to giving money to my contacts I have started a system of helping a university student:
I don't like just giving money, I've setup a loan business with her with 2 injections of P1000 into her capital pool. With P2000 she is able to turn that over multiple times per month on the 6 for 5 basis.
This provides her with additional money to pay her living costs, although she still gets support money from her family.
It is also a game of trust and learning. She has to keep records and explain how she was able to manage the first P1,000. She keeps a loan book and takes repayments every week.
For all I know, she may have already spent it, but she hasn't asked for more.
Now I have to think about how to grow the pool to pay her USD7/ week accommodation costs.
Just an idea for others to consider and comment.
BD.
MrWoolyBooly
12-14-16, 19:29
As an alternative to giving money to my contacts I have started a system of helping a university student:
I don't like just giving money, I've setup a loan business with her with 2 injections of P1000 into her capital pool. With P2000 she is able to turn that over multiple times per month on the 6 for 5 basis.
This provides her with additional money to pay her living costs, although she still gets support money from her family.
It is also a game of trust and learning. She has to keep records and explain how she was able to manage the first P1,000. She keeps a loan book and takes repayments every week.
For all I know, she may have already spent it, but she hasn't asked for more.
Now I have to think about how to grow the pool to pay her USD7/ week accommodation costs.
Just an idea for others to consider and comment.
BD.Interesting idea. I may try it. Certainly lots of lovely college students ask me for money. It can also lead to who knows how many further acquaintances.
BrainDrain
12-14-16, 21:46
Interesting idea. I may try it. Certainly lots of lovely college students ask me for money. It can also lead to who knows how many further acquaintances.My concept on this is that I prefer to work / visit / spend time with street smart girls and organisers. When they see that they can grow their own business it helps me to see if they respect money and if the have the ability to organise themselves. Start small and spread the risk.
While the girl believes and reinforces that the capital is mine I never expect to get it back. What I do get is a good friendship and of course lots of sex when I am in her town.
For regular visitors this can be easily setup. Keeping in contact with 'organiser' women mean that they will organise more girls and better experiences.
For irregular visitors and newbies, emphasis is not to splash too much cash. This strategy may not be suitable if you are not visiting regularly.
BD.
My concept on this is that I prefer to work / visit / spend time with street smart girls and organisers. When they see that they can grow their own business it helps me to see if they respect money and if the have the ability to organise themselves. Start small and spread the risk.
While the girl believes and reinforces that the capital is mine I never expect to get it back. What I do get is a good friendship and of course lots of sex when I am in her town.
For regular visitors this can be easily setup. Keeping in contact with 'organiser' women mean that they will organise more girls and better experiences.
For irregular visitors and newbies, emphasis is not to splash too much cash. This strategy may not be suitable if you are not visiting regularly.
BD.For delinquent 5/6 borrowers do you penalize them?
WestCoast1
12-15-16, 04:39
For delinquent 5/6 borrowers do you penalize them?A little spanky-spanky?
A little spanky-spanky?It changed my spelling. I meant penis lize her?
Wicked Roger
12-15-16, 09:47
A little spanky-spanky?Good suggestion WC LOL.
Or BD could say we need to threesome the delinquent (as long as she is cute and not preggy) - so many possibilities LOL.
BrainDrain
12-15-16, 23:57
For delinquent 5/6 borrowers do you penalize them?I fund the girl with a small capital for her to learn the ropes of money lending. She does have some penalties, I think it is P100 for a missed payment.
So, on a P500 loan, she gets back P600 that month. Yes, that is right, you can work the ROI but it is risky. She spreads the loans across the student community whom will receive payments each fortnight from parent sponsors. She has a waiting list of people whom want to borrow these amounts at these rates. She has no overheads.
I do not do the actual administration of the loans. I don't think it would be a good a long term career for a foreigner to be the lender, remember it's only P5000 to get someone knocked off.
While she has the mindset I have 'loaned' her the capital I do not expect it back and will gift it to her when she graduates. I think the mindset that she is using my money creates a sense of duty to using the capital.
BD.
Chocha Monger
12-16-16, 20:10
In 2017, less college girls will be fucking mongers for tuition money thanks to a new policy making state universities and colleges tuition-free. This will shrink the pool of educational beavers available to mongers who crave intellectual titillation along with genital stimulation. The large majority of mongers are not visiting or residing in the Philippines for academic interests and are expected to be unaffected by this development. Angeles City and Malate will continue to be well-stocked with affordable street meat for pensioners and the working class. http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/12/17/1654307/free-tuition-state-schools-next-year.
Member #4558
12-17-16, 00:53
In 2017, less college girls will be fucking mongers for tuition money thanks to a new policy making state universities and colleges tuition-free. This will shrink the pool of educational beavers available to mongers who crave intellectual titillation along with genital stimulation. The large majority of mongers are not visiting or residing in the Philippines for academic interests and are expected to be unaffected by this development. Angeles City and Malate will continue to be well-stocked with affordable street meat for pensioners and the working class. http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/12/17/1654307/free-tuition-state-schools-next-year.This being the flips and all I am sure headmasters around various colleges / unis gathers to come up with some new ideas to secure their future cash flow. They just invent new fees: shoe wear and tear (on floors) fees, stationary fees, seating fees in auditorium, heating fees, locker fee, new fees to pay for good grades (probably already invented but will rise due to lack of tuition income). Just some ideas. I feast from this segment of girls each year. I understand what you need but I can not say I am to worried to say the least thanks for the heads up though.
In 2017, less college girls will be fucking mongers for tuition money thanks to a new policy making state universities and colleges tuition-free. This will shrink the pool of educational beavers available to mongers who crave intellectual titillation along with genital stimulation. This is, of course, only for State Universities and Colleges (SUCs) and that pool is much smaller than the private providers. There are only 113 SUCs, and more than 2200 other institutions offering what are loosely called "tertiary" but are simple "post-secondary institutions".
My immediate thought was "How will they sub-divide this cash?", and the news release states that "logistically, it will be difficult. How do you share, how do you divide up P8 billion?. . . what formula do you use?” .
Girls who enrol in the Mickey Mouse programs in for example, AMA and the Schools of Hospitality, will still need fees, and even those in the private colleges / universities will want disposable income too for their loads and their make-up and other fripperies.
I doubt that it will make much difference and probably won't affect those guys pre-disposed to want to chase after this age cohort.
Count me out.
CallSign Papa
12-17-16, 07:54
In 2017, less college girls will be fucking mongers for tuition money thanks to a new policy making state universities and colleges tuition-free. I would personally proffer the opinion that the majority of girls who ask for my help for "tuition fees" end up spending that money on virtually anything but their education, and thus, I'm not sure this will really have an impact on the number of girls willing to rent their cootches by the hour.
Wolvenvacht
12-17-16, 08:10
In 2017, less college girls will be fucking mongers for tuition money thanks to a new policy making state universities and colleges tuition-free. This will shrink the pool of educational beavers available to mongers who crave intellectual titillation along with genital stimulation. Quite the contrary! It will draw more girls to the SU&Cs and they will all need sponsors to keep their phones loaded and their pussies wet.
Soapy Smith
12-19-16, 09:18
For those interested in checking up on your sponsored coeds, here is a list of schools that are affected:
http://www.gov.ph/directoryorig/state-universities-and-colleges/
Keep in mind that many or most of these have multiple campuses. The UP system, for example, consists of multiple campuses in three different sub-systems: in Luzon, the Visayas, and Mindanao. In keeping with RK's point about consternation over where the money comes from and how it gets divided, there are various statements coming out of the mouths of university presidents who are not at all confident about the funding. It also seems the House was much less enthusiastic about it than the Senate and somewhat reluctantly passed it through committee. Also, Duterte has not yet signed the legislation, but because he likes to be characterized as a "leftist," he might in fact be supportive.
Had another good session where it looked like the intercourse was great but a climax was just not going to happen. Unfortunately, I'm getting to an age where repeated finishes daily over several weeks are just no longer possible. I'm fine with this and am happy to have great and extended intercourse allowing a climax to happen if and when the time is right.
I explained this to the girl expecting it to be the end of the matter. To my surprise she became very abusive. Not because of my incapacity but because "You think I can't make you come?" Somehow she was insulted thinking that the issue was her lack of effort or performance. She promptly put in a killer performance to prove herself correct and was, rightly so, very happy with herself.
I've received similar comments and attitudes in the past and have always come away smiling that the abuse is not at a dirty old man that can't finish the deed but that I could somehow accept a part performance from her.
BrainDrain
12-20-16, 02:52
Had another good session where it looked like the intercourse was great but a climax was just not going to happen.Sounds familiar. After a couple of continuous days in AC I don't cum each time but the girl always wants to keep going until I do.
I think a lot of my pleasure comes from seeing how different girls perform and perform they do.
Thanks for sharing.
Sounds familiar. After a couple of continuous days in AC I don't cum each time but the girl always wants to keep going until I do.
I think a lot of my pleasure comes from seeing how different girls perform and perform they do.
Thanks for sharing.After a few days I like to get a girl and have her bring a friend and do them both as I alternate them. Then I select the one that feels the best and cum with her. Life is good.
Then I select the one that feels the best and cum with her. Life is good.I'll admit that I do have a couple that specialize in getting blood from a stone and come in very handy towards the end of multi day / week sessions.
WestCoast1
12-20-16, 18:11
Had another good session where it looked like the intercourse was great but a climax was just not going to happen. Unfortunately, I'm getting to an age where repeated finishes daily over several weeks are just no longer possible. I'm fine with this and am happy to have great and extended intercourse allowing a climax to happen if and when the time is right.her.Have been in the same condition for some years now. My last week-long trip to AC, I plowed thru 4 days of LT / ST bargirls without a climax. I'm fine with all that. It never seemed to bother a bargirl. However it has had the same effect on regular girls, some of whom get upset that sex can end for her man without a climax. I've explained to them that its just not possible for me to climax sometimes (at that particular time), and that next time I probably will cum. That has not seemed to always help the situation.
Have been in the same condition for some years now. My last week-long trip to AC, I plowed thru 4 days of LT / ST bargirls without a climax. I'm fine with all that. It never seemed to bother a bargirl. However it has had the same effect on regular girls, some of whom get upset that sex can end for her man without a climax. I've explained to them that its just not possible for me to climax sometimes (at that particular time), and that next time I probably will cum. That has not seemed to always help the situation.Sometimes for the sake of the girl, you have to fake an O.
There are 2 spinner girls I know in AC that will ride me CG until I cum. They are so tight and know how to work it tirelessly that I cum every time. They won't stop until I do. Life in AC is great.
Have been in the same condition for some years now. My last week-long trip to AC, I plowed thru 4 days of LT / ST bargirls without a climax. I'm fine with all that. It never seemed to bother a bargirl. However it has had the same effect on regular girls, some of whom get upset that sex can end for her man without a climax. I've explained to them that its just not possible for me to climax sometimes (at that particular time), and that next time I probably will cum. That has not seemed to always help the situation.Was in Manila last month, went to EDSA. Had a girl who was very pretty, and I did not climax and she was worried that I would complain to mamasan. I think that the girls do view that as a problem, and they want you to climax. I told her not to worry, I would not complain, I had fun and enjoyed her. "I worry that you go back and tell mamasan I no good". Such is the life of a monger.
BrainDrain
12-21-16, 13:25
Doing some research over on Singapore Reports of Distinction I found these gems from Flyboy.
On 'back to the room': some Asian girls a bit shy on this so you want to maybe come up with an excuse to bring them back to the room, anything that'll get them in the door. Could be to see this amazing massive suite you got, or the great view from the room, or maybe you bought them some little gift (which you leave in the room, don't take to dinner / drinks), or even photos on your laptop of your cat, makes no difference, the girls knows what's on the cards but still they prefer to be seen to have a reason to visit your room rather than going for sex! It's a strange thing but work with it, often they have this 'good girl' layer on top so they like the 'excuse' to visit your room, of course behind closed doors that good girl layer is easily and quickly removed!
The other thing I learned from my DIA experience is to be ruthless in ranking the girls in order to know who gets your attention in Singapore. Rank them out of ten, highest score most likely to fuck and especially on the first night, next rung on the ladder are good chance but might need two dates. Any below that are probably not worth the time or investment. Don't just think of the ratings, write them down and get tough! You only have X days / nights in Singapore so why waste time on the less likely chances, unless you're there for a week and want to cultivate one stunner to nail her tail at the tail end of the week.I have always had the back to the room excuse ready be it for "left your present in the room", "going back to watch TV / Movie", : Need to check email". All very lame, all very plausible.
I also get reminded of my ranking system. I'm also happy to bump the filipinas off my list if I fill enough of the top graders.
I do like the MO around needing to cultivate various girls. Some girls you just know are not going to do it on the first visit, so they need to be fitted in for a coffee in between the performers. I often have 2 dinners in one night.
Thoughts?
BD.
Mr Enternational
12-21-16, 14:30
Doing some research over on Singapore Reports of Distinction I found these gems from Flyboy.
I have always had the back to the room excuse ready be it for "left your present in the room", "going back to watch TV / Movie", : Need to check email". All very lame, all very plausible.I am a grown man, not a teenager. I have no problem asking a grown woman if she wants to go fuck.
Chocha Monger
12-21-16, 21:31
Have been in the same condition for some years now. My last week-long trip to AC, I plowed thru 4 days of LT / ST bargirls without a climax. I'm fine with all that. It never seemed to bother a bargirl. However it has had the same effect on regular girls, some of whom get upset that sex can end for her man without a climax. I've explained to them that its just not possible for me to climax sometimes (at that particular time), and that next time I probably will cum. That has not seemed to always help the situation.The CD is over, and the candles have burned low. You're feeling great. You're enjoying sex, just as you always do: the closeness, the give and take, the heat. But now you'd like to finish and it ain't happening. You step up the rhythm. Nothing. What's going on? You spent your 20's trying not to, and now. You can't.
Don't worry. You're not alone. Plenty of guys 50 and older experience difficulty with orgasm and ejaculation, says Dr. Louanne Weston, a sex therapist. One study found the problem affects as many as 16 percent of men in their early 60's, 23 percent of men ages 65 to 74, and 33 percent of men 75 and older. The good news is that these difficulties can usually be resolved. The first step is to understand what's behind the issue. The likely culprits include:
Aging. "As men age, they notice that their penis needs more stimulation to trigger ejaculation," says sex therapist Dr. Dennis Sugrue. "This is normal, but often disconcerting. " Aging also weakens the pelvic floor muscles, whose contractions trigger an ejaculation. When these muscles weaken, semen dribbles out and orgasms may provide little pleasure.
Medical conditions. Neurological conditions (diabetes, paraplegia, multiple sclerosis) might damage the nerves that control orgasm. Surgery for benign prostate enlargement has no effect on orgasm, but it eliminates ejaculation.
Drugs. Antidepressants are notorious for impairing sexual performance. Alcohol is most associated with erectile dysfunction, but in some men, it causes orgasm problems. Other drugs may also contribute, such as pain relievers (Aleve, Naprosyn), anti-anxiety (Xanax, Valium), and numerous blood pressure and psychiatric medications, among others.
Stress. Sex therapists say that several emotional stress may be associated with the problem: anger at one's lover, fear of pregnancy or sexual infections, or fundamentalist upbringing. "I've seen ejaculatory problems linked to strict Catholic, Protestant and Jewish upbringing," Weston says. "It's not the religion. It's the fundamentalism."
"Delivery boy" attitude. Lovemaking involves giving and receiving pleasure, but some men believe their only job is to give it. "When a man pays too much attention to his partner's experience and not enough to his own, he loses erotic focus, which can interfere with orgasm and ejaculation," says sex therapist Dr. Marty Klein.
http://www.aarp.org/relationships/love-sex/info-11-2010/men_sex_problem_cannot_climax.html
I wouldn't label my thing a dysfunction at all. After days of fucking and cuming you run dry and get sore. I think it is a natural response to not cum as much. As I wrote earlier I like to prolong it and fuck a couple girls one after the other.
I plan a trip to AC early 2017 and already have 8 girls lined up from prior engagements. I try to experience new girls on each trip and find it harder to keep all the previous ones satisfied as time runs out. My mo now is to have a girl bring me a friend as we do a rotation in the room.
On my last trip flying into Manila I had a 20 year old Cebuana now staying in Manila come fuck the hell out of me. I saw a picture of her sweet looking 19 yo cousin on her Facebook and ask her about her. It is now set up both will come see me when I land on my next visit. I imagine after seeing these 2 and one other regular Manila girl that I will be running dry by the time I get to AC. Dysfunction? Fuck no! Pinayfuckathontion is more like it.
Don't worry. You're not alone. Plenty of guys 50 and older experience difficulty with orgasm and ejaculation, says Dr. Louanne Weston, a sex therapist. CM,
Some interesting points there.
The inability to orgasm a few times a month when back home and multiple times per day for days or weeks on end while on a mongering holiday are two distinct issues. Most studies and assistance programs are based upon frequencies found in a "normal" / Western setting. I'm pretty sure I know what the response would be if I were to return back home with "Doc, I'm sick. I can't blow my load 4 times every day for 2 months". LOL.
One study found the problem affects as many as 16 percent of men in their early 60's, 23 percent of men ages 65 to 74, and 33 percent of men 75 and older. The good news is that these difficulties can usually be resolved. The first step is to understand what's behind the issue. The likely culprits include:What "problem"? I enjoy extended and repeated intercourse when on holiday. That it may or may not result in ejaculation doesn't bother me in the slightest. I'm no longer a 17 year old putting notches on a bed post. I remember one session where I literally banged a beautiful girl all night from closing time to about 8 am without ejaculation. I had a great, fun time. No way would I have been able to do that in my 20's.
My heart goes out to those with a medical issue that prevents them from having a happy and healthy sex life. However I think it's important to be realistic when discussing what can and can't be achieved and if either actually inhibits our level of enjoyment.
MrWoolyBooly
12-22-16, 15:42
I'm pretty sure I know what the response would be if I were to return back home with "Doc, I'm sick. I can't blow my load 4 times every day for 2 months". LOL.The medically proper treatment for this condition is a prescription for minimum 2 sexy Pinay ladies in 3/4/5-somes taken daily, hourly, or as needed. Repeat until satisfied or blissfully passed out.
MrWoolyBooly
12-22-16, 15:53
The first step is to understand what's behind the issue. My issue is trying to book a Pinay lady for every two hour window during my stay. Should propably make longer bookings, but with more 3-somes to compensate so none of the lovelies feel left out.
My last week-long trip to AC, I plowed thru 4 days of LT / ST bargirls without a climax. I'm fine with all that. Nice. . I'm fine with 5 days.
I told her not to worry, I would not complain, I had fun and enjoyed her.Was it not you, Mr. Hawaii, that spoke of the benefits possible using ancient Chinese medicine (ACM) in an earlier post? Not spilling your semen.
Nice. . I'm fine with 5 days.
Was it not you, Mr. Hawaii, that spoke of the benefits possible using ancient Chinese medicine (ACM) in an earlier post? Not spilling your semen.Wow, I did not even remember that. Yes, TCM (traditional Chinese medicine) advocates that practice.
WestCoast1
12-24-16, 06:16
Was it not you, Mr. Hawaii, that spoke of the benefits possible using ancient Chinese medicine (ACM) in an earlier post? Not spilling your semen.
Wow, I did not even remember that. Yes, TCM (traditional Chinese medicine) advocates that practice.OTOH, banged one of my pinay regulars recently, and her pussy was way tighter than I've ever experienced it. We started on doggy, and after about 1 minute the shot was welling up within me. I turned her over to mish, and another minute of humping pushed the long, wicked shot into her. Sorry, sweetie, very short. She blamed the tight pussy on a boyfriend breakup last month, with no sex since. Anyway I look at it, I win. I luvvvvvv pinas.
MrWoolyBooly
12-30-16, 23:12
I think it is a 2 way street when you say the quality of a GF is not there in the bars, it is the same for the girls, slim pickings from the boys.Astute observation. Pro or not, the overwhelming majority of poor Pinays I've met would be monogamous with almost any guy who met some minimum standards: Not butt-ugly, not 3 x older, not a complete a**hole, shows up regularly, reliably supports a lifestyle above squalor, and doesn't humiliate her with his extracurricular activities. If he can also exchange sincere smiles with the family, she'll do (or refrain from doing) anything to keep him. In every case I've seen of non-monogamous Pinays, pro or not, the guys all had one or more disqualifications.
Mr Enternational
12-31-16, 00:04
Astute observation. Pro or not, the overwhelming majority of poor Pinays I've met would be monogamous with almost any guy who met some minimum standards: Not butt-ugly, not 3 x older, not a complete a**hole, shows up regularly, reliably supports a lifestyle above squalor, and doesn't humiliate her with his extracurricular activities. If he can also exchange sincere smiles with the family, she'll do (or refrain from doing) anything to keep him. In every case I've seen of non-monogamous Pinays, pro or not, the guys all had one or more disqualifications.Not sure of your definition of poor, but I was in the US Navy and I would beg to differ. 9 out of 10 of the first generation Pinay that I banged on US soil were married. And half of them would partake even if the husband was not away. A Pinay that I used to mess with in Thailand a couple of years ago? Married with everything she could possibly want. Nice house with a pool, SUV, 2 kids, stove outside to cook her stinky Filipino food, a daily maid even though she didn't work. There are good ones but from my experience they are few and far between.
MrWoolyBooly
12-31-16, 00:38
Not sure of your definition of poor, I'd define poor in this context as "no way I could escape crushing poverty on my own job skills and income. " That's a lot of the population. Most Pinays I know in that situation would desperately cling to a guy with a passing score while telling him it's love. They might tell themselves that too, but they compartmentalize a lot. None of this applies to Pinays with the skills or resources to live independently if they chose. That leads to a whole nother topic of Pinays who marry foreigners, emigrate, and figure they can survive without the guy who brung 'em.
Not sure of your definition of poor, but I was in the US Navy and I would beg to differ. 9 out of 10 of the first generation Pinay that I banged on US soil were married. And half of them would partake even if the husband was not away. A Pinay that I used to mess with in Thailand a couple of years ago? Married with everything she could possibly want. Nice house with a pool, SUV, 2 kids, stove outside to cook her stinky Filipino food, a daily maid even though she didn't work. There are good ones but from my experience they are few and far between.That would be recreational sex. Maybe it was the uniform that they couldn't resist!
MrWoolyBooly
12-31-16, 15:28
Someday I need to put together all the messages I've received from various apps from the Pinoy boyfriends. There are two distinct types: One type plays tough and uses Tagalog or Visayan profanity with broken English to threaten me, roughly 2/3. It's funny how many of these threats are via dating site messages from "his" lady's account! The other type is more pleading not to "harm their relationship", around 1/3. In neither case do they realize that without interest from the Pinay, I'd have no chance at all.
I've never received any messages from their foreigner boyfriends.
Soapy Smith
01-01-17, 07:56
Not sure of your definition of poor, but I was in the US Navy and I would beg to differ. 9 out of 10 of the first generation Pinay that I banged on US soil were married. And half of them would partake even if the husband was not away. A Pinay that I used to mess with in Thailand a couple of years ago? Married with everything she could possibly want. Nice house with a pool, SUV, 2 kids, stove outside to cook her stinky Filipino food, a daily maid even though she didn't work. There are good ones but from my experience they are few and far between.I think you may have been sleeping during critical lectures in the research design course in your MBA program. You are introducing a sampling error into the middle of MWB's proposed relationship between poor Pinays and relationship fidelity with their Western hubbies. Military life is hard on relationships, and even those sailors whose wives you shagged while hubby was stationed at home, may already have had their marriages destabilized because of previous deployments and reassignments. In other words, MWB is talking about mostly non-military relationships, and you are referring primarily to a more narrow population of high-risk marriages. Also, MWB was careful to claim only that an "overwhelming majority" of poor Pinays are loyal to decent men who rescue them from their plight in Filipino poverty.
Now it's time for Chocha Monger, who usually makes claims in absolutes, to remind us that all Pinays are inherently dishonest, disloyal, and untruthful and all Western men who marry them are inherently gullible.
Mr Enternational
01-01-17, 14:43
In other words, MWB is talking about mostly non-military relationships, and you are referring primarily to a more narrow population of high-risk marriages. Also, MWB was careful to claim only that an "overwhelming majority" of poor Pinays are loyal to decent men who rescue them from their plight in Filipino poverty.
Military is just a job. I do not see being married in the military as a high-risk relationship. I can only think of a couple of my friends that are not still with the same wife they had 20 years ago. (Now that I think about it, it is all the people who were not in the military that broke up!) All of these marriages are American with American though. I don't have any old military friends who are married with foreigners.
Also we are on the outside looking in. Who are we to say whether the guy that the poor Filipina married is decent or not? I enjoy watching the show 90-Day Fiance where you can see the girls' dreams or expectations did not line up with real life once she arrived in the USA.
Of all the Pinay chicks that I have been with who had husbands, I have no idea of their background or their financial situation before they were married. I also have no idea of whether their husbands were decent or not. The one that I had in Thailand husband I did meet and he seemed like a decent enough guy. But who knows of the situation when they were alone. Mostly we only know what they tell us. Hell the poor Filipina could have been kicking the guy's ass behind closed doors and later playing the victim.
MrWoolyBooly
01-01-17, 16:19
9 out of 10 of the first generation Pinay that I banged on US soil were married. Nobody living legally in the US is at risk of Philippines-level poverty, even assuming their husbands were all model spouses.
Mr Enternational
01-01-17, 17:22
Nobody living legally in the US is at risk of Philippines-level poverty, even assuming their husbands were all model spouses.I am speaking of the people in those days who would be stationed in Subic and Angeles and would bring a wife back with them. So more than likely the girl was in poverty before she met the husband and had they divorced and went back to PI they would be back to poverty. This was late 80s and early 90s. All you saw on military bases in California was chicks who had come from Philippines.
I am speaking of the people in those days who would be stationed in Subic and Angeles and would bring a wife back with them. So more than likely the girl was in poverty before she met the husband and had they divorced and went back to PI they would be back to poverty. This was late 80s and early 90s. All you saw on military bases in California was chicks who had come from Philippines.I am trying to understand.
1. Are you saying you were banging your military brother's Pinay wives?
2. And from those banging experiences in the late 80's and early 90's you are using to judge today's Pinays?
MrWoolyBooly
01-03-17, 13:59
And wouldn't it be embarrassing if you had to report that you were one of the few chaps to come to Manila and not get laid.Thank you Mr Fan for making me laugh out my breakfast drink this morning.
Is there any country in the world where an ordinary guy can more easily and surely exchange his time or money to get his needs met? I've not found it in the couple dozen or so countries I've visited in my time, but some on this forum are true globetrotters. This is a serious question, and I'm only considering normal cities and towns, not places specifically set aside as red light districts.
Soapy Smith
01-03-17, 19:39
1. Are you saying you were banging your military brother's Pinay wives?
2. And from those banging experiences in the late 80's and early 90's you are using to judge today's Pinays?That's how I understand this, DG. So, in terms of sampling error: 1) he assumes that Pinay military wives are like all Pinays; 2) he assumes Pinays from the late 80's and early 90's are the same as today's Pinays; and 3) he fucked 10 different Pinay military wives but doesn't think he had a reputation that preceded him, which in turn probably created distinctly different groups of Pinay military wives: one group that avoided him like the plague, and another that knew he was eager to play. And from these sampling distortions he knows the predilictions of all Pinays. As you and MWB alluded in earlier posts, the role of the men in these situations has a significant effect on the trajectory of the relationships. But in this forum we usually disassemble the womens' actions rather than our own.
Mr Enternational
01-03-17, 21:26
I am trying to understand.
1. Are you saying you were banging your military brother's Pinay wives?Military brothers? The military is just a job like every other. Just because I work at the same company as someone I do not consider them my brother. And yes. It was widely know how loose Filipina women were. Anyone in the US military can tell you that. And you need to realize that most chicks would not tell you outright that they were married until after you were fucking them. For instance one chick took me to her house one night. I thought it strange she had a Nintendo. She must really like beer seeing the icebox is stocked with it. Wait. Whose big ass shoes are these? Oh. My husband is a Marine Drill Instructor.
Only 2 chicks that I knew from the beginning were married. One I met at the base club in Jacksonville. She told me at the start her husband was away on the Saratoga. She used to cook and bring me food everyday. Another was a girl in San Diego that damn near the entire base was screwing. I remember being at her place one afternoon watching TV when her husband came home from work. He greeted me then walked right upstairs.
2. And from those banging experiences in the late 80's and early 90's you are using to judge today's Pinays?Well I also gave an example of a Pinay in Thailand from 2 years ago whose husband is from Europe and owns a profitable company and certainly has way more money thay my ass. That has nothing to do with the military.
Along with all the stories you read on ISG and other websites of the doings of people's Filipina wives/girlfriends/significant others, one would think it was not so far fetched that a Pinay from a poor economic background would not be monogamous in oposition to what MWB hypothesized. I am not saying it is impossible to find one, but I am saying that the stereotype fits my experience.
BaddHabbit
01-04-17, 07:14
Thank you Mr Fan for making me laugh out my breakfast drink this morning.
Is there any country in the world where an ordinary guy can more easily and surely exchange his time or money to get his needs met? I've not found it in the couple dozen or so countries I've visited in my time, but some on this forum are true globetrotters. This is a serious question, and I'm only considering normal cities and towns, not places specifically set aside as red light districts.I'll admit I am relatively new to the game, but have been wondering and watching for many years, and tracking the goings on 'from afar'. I am also a significant traveler, clocking in the order of 300,000 km per year average, and just passed my 120th country visited.
No, there really is not another country where it is so easy, so open, so accepted. Not even close!
likely the girl was in poverty before she met the husband and had they divorced and went back to PI they would be back to poverty. This was late 80s and early 90s. All you saw on military bases in California was chicks who had come from Philippines.More than likely the military enlistee was in poverty and / or from a dead end background before joining the military. Filipinas on military bases in the USA says more about the Americans who got them there than it does about the women.
Military just a job? No, it's a total institution that affects for life everyone who experienced it. No one's the same after being in the military. If you failed to realize that, you're not credible.
BrainDrain
01-05-17, 00:35
Military just a job? No, it's a total institution that affects for life everyone who experienced it. No one's the same after being in the military. If you failed to realize that, you're not credible.In Angeles there are still a few strong military links. The VFW Post & Australia RSL are active.
Member #4566
01-05-17, 00:48
Filipinas on military bases in the USA says more about the Americans who got them there than it does about the women.What does it say? I have RTFF and my question doesn't seem to be covered. Pray tell what does it say?
Mr Enternational
01-05-17, 03:01
Military just a job? No, it's a total institution that affects for life everyone who experienced it. No one's the same after being in the military. If you failed to realize that, you're not credible.Please fill me in on how the military should have affected me for life. I failed to realize it. But I am sure that with your expert help my experience can be turned around and put on the right path so that I can be credible.
Please fill me in on how the military should have affected me for life. I failed to realize it. But I am sure that with your expert help my experience can be turned around and put on the right path so that I can be credible.I seriously doubt he or anyone else short of General MacArthur could enlighten you about military brotherhood or band of brothers. I do have to say this was the first time I have ever heard "it was just a job" about the military.
Mr Enternational
01-05-17, 06:15
I seriously doubt he or anyone else short of General MacArthur could enlighten you about military brotherhood or band of brothers. I do have to say this was the first time I have ever heard "it was just a job" about the military.What did you think the military is? It is a big company. You take a test to get in and the score tells you which JOBs you qualify for and you pick from those based on the needs of your branch. (And yes there are people who score low enough that they are not accepted.) In the US, each branch has its own cut off score.
There are cooks, photographers, painters, secretaries, policemen, data processors, construction workers, accountants, electricians, mechanics, preachers, musicians, lawyers, doctors, nuclear engineers, etc. You go in to work at a certain time and you get off at a certain time. To top it off it is a pretty shitty paying job at that. There is a reason that most people do not stay past their first contract.
I was both enlisted and officer. Most of my friends are commanders and captains now with one being promoted to rear admiral at the end of last year. I went into a scholarship program so that I would have my university paid for. Anyone in the Navy knows that it means Never Again Volunteer Yourself. Did you have some type of glorified meaning of what it is to be in the military?
I will add my own feelings. I am not taking sides here and do not wish to join any arguments.
I joined the Navy because it paid for my college. It was a job. Yes, a very interesting job (at times) which gave me some incredible life experiences. It was in during the Cold War, so there were no battles or bloodshed. I cringe when people thank me for my "service". I think that is more appropriate for those who really put their lives on the line. Particularly ground forces during Hot War periods.
Looking back, do I feel a sense military brotherhood? Yes, of course. But that is a feeling that fermented and ripened long after I left the job.
I seriously doubt he or anyone else short of General MacArthur could enlighten you about military brotherhood or band of brothers. I do have to say this was the first time I have ever heard "it was just a job" about the military.
Maybe the Navy has / had more influence on you than you realize, Mr. E. The fact that you got commissioned and wisely took advantage of educational opportunities probably helps to explain in part your current level of success as it did for me. Or maybe you aren't using any of those skills, I don't really know you well enough. I was an air force officer '78 - '86 stationed at Clark '82 - '84 and it was almost the best part of my life (the best part being now). Some of my oldest and dearest friends are ex-air force. I like to visit Legion Post #123 while visiting Angeles. Certainly there are books written about the sociology of the military and how it differs from civilian life, particularly during wartime and all the sacrifices our military brothers and sisters made and continue to make. Thankfully I never served during wartime but am grateful to those who have. The air force taught me organizational and leadership skills I wouldn't have gotten elsewhere; and introduced me to the sexy delightfulness of foreign women that comes with an overseas assignment. I don't recall banging any military guy's wives (Filipina or other) so I can't really comment on that. The military just a job? I don't think so. It had a profound influence on my life (much more than corporate America or academia) and I highly recommend it to any young person.
What did you think the military is? It is a big company. Anyone in the Navy knows that it means Never Again Volunteer Yourself. Did you have some type of glorified meaning of what it is to be in the military?.
Soapy Smith
01-05-17, 21:19
What does it say? I have RTFF and my question doesn't seem to be covered. Pray tell what does it say?
You were asking about Golfinho's claim that "Filipinas on military bases in the USA says more about the Americans who got them there than it does about the women."
No prayer required. I will offer an answer based on American military men's experiences, the only experience I really know. We might start by asking why these men choose to marry foreign women, and especially those from poor countries. After all, most overseas tours are for two years or less, so why not just wait until a subsequent stateside assignment and, like most American men, marry an American girl whom the family is more likely to embrace? In marrying this (often) poor woman from a poor country the guy is ignoring his family's likely reception of and treatment of the woman. So what makes a guy throw caution to the wind in this way?
In many cases the guy is lonely, starved for intimate connection. In some cases this is the guy's first serious sexual relationship, and he confuses satisfaction of his lustful needs with love. But it is especially important that the guy's everyday existence is in a total institution, which Golfinho referred to earlier.
A total institution is an organizational arrangement designed to control its occupants for the purpose of managing them toward a common purpose. Typical examples are prisons, mental hospitals, convents, and the military. The sociological studies of the military that DC referred to say essentially that the military's principal socializing task is to de-individualize the raw recruit, taking away his civilian individuality: cut off all his hair; take away his civilian belongings; put everybody in identical, ugly clothes; capitalize on his ignorance of expectations in the new setting by humiliating him in front of colleagues (drop for pushups, make him stand against a wall holding a weapon across his arms, stand within inches of his face and yell insults at him, etc.) when he executes a "right face" when commanded to execute "right shoulder arms" or can't instantly bark out various parts of the military code of conduct; and so on, and so on. Then the military rebuilds everybody toward a collective identity and purpose. So this is great for getting men to put their lives on the line for their country's leaders--although usually couched as protecting the guy next to you. It's great for getting men to follow orders in a dangerous situation. But it also leaves a part of the guy feeling really empty, the part of the guy that craves affection and intimate connection.
So the guy goes out and meets a sweet young thing who for one night, or two, makes him feel like a million dollars, the object of her lifelong dreams. She may be sincere; she too may think she is madly in love. The point is, she fills the gap of intimacy and loneliness that the total institution intentionally stripped away.
But when she tries to live her life around his military existence, she has a very hard time fitting into his total institution. He, for his part, is so totally socialized into the total institution that he is unaware how tightly it has him wrapped up. He is like a fish who is unaware his environment is wet. Mr. E's account of his experiences suggests that some guys never figure it out.
So the guy's circumstances--why he entered into this risky marriage in the first place, his unawareness that he was acting on his own loneliness and need for intimacy, his unawareness of the total institution of which he's a part, his insensitivity to his family's treatment of his wife, his unawareness of the culture shock his wife is experiencing, and his unawareness of her total dependence on him--are at least as important to success in the new marriage, probably more important, than some presumed pre-wired disposition in the young Pinay wife.
So this is how the guy matters in ways that tend to get discounted in our forum, but Golfinho may have been referring to something on a larger scale: the fact that they, and most of us, are just pissants in a very large, powerful system in which one country has this huge military presence throughout much of the world designed around a post WWII strategy of "containment" of our enemies. In theory the American containment doctrine ended with the fall of the USSR, but did it really? Among large industrialized countries from outside the region, only the U.S has undertaken a substantial presence in the push and shove about the South China and East China seas. European countries engage in diplomacy with Russia, Turkey, and Syria, because they are directly affected by these other countries' actions. And East Asian and European bilateral aid agencies spread some money around in the developing world, but no other countries have the military--and economic--reach of the United States. We can hold differing views about whether this U.S. role in the world is good or bad, necessary or unnecessary, effective or ineffective, but it seems indisputable that the roles of American servicemen and the wives they take from developing countries are much more significantly defined by the geodynamics of Ameircan foreign policy than by anything in the individual dispositions of husbands and wives. With a little imagination it may be possible to see how this taken-for-granted role of American international influence is also tied to the total institution of everyday military life for the serviceman and his foreign bride.
I think Golfinho's point was that the Pinay wife's presence on an American military installation is a product of a foreign policy that is uniquely American (or possbly occasionally for British, Canadian, or Australian military wives). The wife is on the tip of the dog's tail, and American foreign policy controls the wagging of the tail.
If this helps, hopefully you won't have to read much further into the forum.
Mr Enternational
01-05-17, 22:00
Damn Soapy. That was a great analysis. I would even use my own money to buy that explanation. Your explanation of the indoctrination process was spot on. The thing with me is that I tend to be an independent thinker so I know it is all just a game like you said to foster cohesion and obedience. The same as church. Maybe that is why I see it as just a job and do not see the brotherhood thing the same as others do.
Soapy Smith
01-05-17, 22:25
Damn Soapy. That was a great analysis. I would even use my own money to buy that explanation. Your explanation of the indoctrination process was spot on. The thing with me is that I tend to be an independent thinker so I know it is all just a game like you said to foster cohesion and obedience. The same as church. Maybe that is why I see it as just a job and do not see the brotherhood thing the same as others do.Maybe African American men are more resistant to the socialization process because they have good reason to mistrust the intentions of institutionalization.
Good points all around, SS. I saw a lot of military guys marry Korean and Filipina women for I presume the reasons you state: mostly loneliness but I think this applies to guys everywhere, not just military. See the thread on American Women for AW bashing haha. As for military indoctrination, the air force was the least "military" branch of the four (five if you count USCG) but we were still GI read Government Issue and did what, where and when we were told to do it (absent the why). After a while fish don't realize the water they are part of. I never thought the uniforms were ugly, quite the opposite given the popularity of camouflage clothing even now. And what woman could resist a naval officer is his shoulder-boarded ice cream suit? I guess I'm rambling now. Twas a good experience for me at the time, glad I never married (foreign or domestic) and equally glad I'm no longer in it. I still think Filipinas are the best women on the planet. If only we could grow larger boobs on them hahhahahah.
I will offer an answer based on American military men's experiences, the only experience I really know. We might start by asking why these men choose to marry foreign women, and especially those from poor countries. After all, most overseas tours are for two years or less, so why not just wait until a subsequent stateside assignment and, like most American men, marry an American girl .
Great use of the "if clause". Do you have a story to support your "ifs"?No Xman I made this story up so you could critique it LOL.
PC out.
Is it just me or have bargirls put on 10 lbs in the six months since my last visit?
I've noticed that those that were once shrink wrapped spinners now have a distinct layer of baby fat and those that were curvaceous are now heading towards pudgy.
The girls have also recognized this as more and more have dropped off the Pill in an effort to fend off further weight gain.
There are certainly spinners still to be found but the average weight definitely seems to have moved north.
Discussing this with friends, all agreed and partially blamed the war on drugs. As stimulants become less available the side effects of weight loss are also fading away.
Soapy Smith
01-07-17, 04:52
I never thought the uniforms were ugly, quite the opposite given the popularity of camouflage clothing even now. And what woman could resist a naval officer is his shoulder-boarded ice cream suit? I guess I'm rambling now. Twas a good experience for me at the time, glad I never married (foreign or domestic) and equally glad I'm no longer in it. I still think Filipinas are the best women on the planet. If only we could grow larger boobs on them hahhahahah. I initially entered the Army as an 18 year old Private E-1. When we first arrived in the reception center (Ft. Dix for me) they gave us the ugliest cast off clothing they had available. We were made to wear our civvie pants, shirts, and shoes under a long, ugly OD trench coat, and a bonnet they called a "KP" hat like the Korean War hats that Radar and Clinger on Mash always wore. This was in 1965, and the Korean War ended 12 years earlier. Then when they issued us four pairs of OD fatigues, the lack of fade in color gave us away as brand new recruits. Too many guys had no idea how to march to cadence, so any given platoon of men moved along in a rolling imitation of a big OD otter rambling across a roadway. So the companies with more faded fatigues just referred to those of us in bright, unwashed fatigues as "F Troop. " Sorry, some dated American TV references here.
I spent 27 months in Germany while war was waging in Vietnam, and in those days the U.S. dollar was worth four marks, almost three times its comparative value when the DM was decommissioned in favor of Euros many years later. So American GIs were very attractive to some German women. I almost bit the bullet myself, and I recall numerous young guys racing to the CO for permission to marry some German fraulein who was probably the guy's first sexual partner.
I agree with your assessment of Filipinas, although, because I am now trapped in the states, I find myself easily excited by all brown-skinned women I encounter. Perhaps Air Force and Army experiences create different tastes, because I actually prefer smaller boobs, which are readily found in the Pinay population, and natural fur between the legs.
Is it just me or have bargirls put on 10 lbs in the six months since my last visit?
I've noticed that those that were once shrink wrapped spinners now have a distinct layer of baby fat and those that were curvaceous are now heading towards pudgy.
The girls have also recognized this as more and more have dropped off the Pill in an effort to fend off further weight gain.
There are certainly spinners still to be found but the average weight definitely seems to have moved north.
Discussing this with friends, all agreed and partially blamed the war on drugs. As stimulants become less available the side effects of weight loss are also fading away.I am not sure you can place the blame on the pill or lack of drugs. Most likely they were new girls from the province and thin from starvation. Six months later their bodies have been storing up for the winter. Similar to a yo yo diet.
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