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Steve Nash
10-31-19, 09:00
I don't think that Steve was asserting that a vas protect the guy from HIV etc. I read his post as no intact monger would risk impregnating a girl so would tarp up everytime 🤔 , gaining the additional benefit of protection that this gives. Getting cut removes the pregnancy risk, so he is now free to bare back one and all thereby presenting the risk that direct contact gives.
To answer from this perspective: roll your dice and take your chances. Its wildly inaccurate to assume that all 'good' girls are clean and all 'bad' girls are infected. Many mongers assert that they have bare backed for years without issue or some have caught something from the first good girl they met. There is everything in between as well.
Enjoy. G.Thanks Goferring again!
I guess I didn't ask my question properly, and I sounded like a newby here (LOL).
And yes the Vasectomy was only done to avoid pregnancy.
I guess I have to roll the dice and take my chances.
By far the best answer on my question, thanks again Goferring, you are the best!
Yep, you got it in one. You worked it out, whereas suckers like me always go to AC and we get cleaned out. The girls are sooo mercenary there. The girls in Manila and Cebu are not after money at all. They are only seeking true companionship and love with a foreigner. Well done in getting there so quickly.And he sorted it out in only 5 trips to the Philippines!
I must have had something like 150 to 200 trips to the Philippines by now but was never able to have sex with shy girls like him.
How does he do it?
Maybe he likes girls who have only had sex with Filipinos cause their hole will still be small for his small appendage? He is a mystery to me, but because he is focusing on Cebu and Manila he will find a girl who is not interested in his money, it seems.
An exceptional person, indeed.
..... But many of them will reach full body orgasms. Once they reach that level, trust me they will love you forever.
.....That has been my experience with the inexperienced girls as well. I have had one regular for almost 2 years now. She is mid 30's one kid and only fucked the father and when she said she was expecting, he disappeared. They had only done missionary, no other positions and no oral. I gave her the first ever licks and she was hooked. She had full body orgasm in about a minute.
I know they will just tell you what you want to believe but I met her after contacting another "girl" on pinalove who confirmed her story, Another tip, if a dating site contact tells you she is ladyboy don't tell her to fuck off and block her, politely say sorry not interested but do you have any natural born girl friends that might be interested. The LB fully confirmed her story.
When I got her she was very shy and inexperienced, On our first visit together in my room without her LB friend along, she would only sit as far from me as she could, clasping her purse to her chest, sitting on the edge of the chair knees firmly together and looking at the floor. Now she will text me begging me to cum in her mouth and fuck her hard from behind. She will send nude video to me once or twice a week.
She is still shy out of bed. She will not go through a security check in wherever I am staying without me, I have to go to the lobby for her. However as soon as we walk into my place, she will strip naked and be on her knees in 30 seconds.
That has been my experience with the inexperienced girls as well.While I profess to prefer the more experienced girls, I have also come across several girls who consider the only role for sex is to stop their BF whingeing. They honestly think it their duty and expect to receive no enjoyment or satisfaction from it what so ever. These are the girls that can become ravenous when shown what to do and how to enjoy the experience generally and their bodies specifically.
0Another tip, if a dating site contact tells you she is ladyboy don't tell her to fuck off and block her, politely say sorry not interested but do you have any natural born girl friends that might be interested.Amen to that. Invite "her" to a cheap lunch on the proviso that "she" brings some girlfriends who would like to meet a nice guy. All LBs have lots of friends who like to party.
Enjoy. G.
While I profess to prefer the more experienced girls, I have also come across several girls who consider the only role for sex is to stop their BF whingeing. They honestly think it their duty and expect to receive no enjoyment or satisfaction from it what so ever. These are the girls that can become ravenous when shown what to do and how to enjoy the experience generally and their bodies specifically.My girl is a combination of the inexperienced and one who thought that sex was just to satisfy the man, she is a delight in bed now. She is also a delight on the floor, in the shower, on the balcony and in the back seat of my car now too. LOL.
Amen to that. Invite "her" to a cheap lunch on the proviso that "she" brings some girlfriends who would like to meet a nice guy. All LBs have lots of friends who like to party.
Enjoy. G.Many pina's consider Jollibee a real treat, they grow up only being able to go to it for very special occasions, if at all. I've found that a JB meal is sometimes more appreciated by the giorls than a much more fancy and expensive meal elsewhere.
Many pina's consider Jollibee a real treat, they grow up only being able to go to it for very special occasions, if at all. I've found that a JB meal is sometimes more appreciated by the giorls than a much more fancy and expensive meal elsewhere.We are in agreement again. 😁.
The 5 star restaurants are good for the girls to show off but for actually enjoying the meal its JB or street food everytime.
Enjoy. G.
GoodEnough
11-01-19, 06:16
We are in agreement again. 😁.
The 5 star restaurants are good for the girls to show off but for actually enjoying the meal its JB or street food everytime.
Enjoy. G.The problem with this is that of course you will be expected to eat the crap they serve as well, which is a sacrifice I'm not willing to make.
GE.
Engine Driver
11-01-19, 21:33
My regular masseuse in Manila just informed me she has submitted her passport application to go to Canada. I initially thought she's going abroad to do massage, but it turns out she's going to be a caregiver. Those old, toothless Canadian codgers will certainly be lucky to get their asses wiped and their dicks washed by a cute Pinay each morning.
Out of curiosity, I looked up pay rates for caregivers in Canuck land and saw that it is $14/ HR. I'm wondering how does a Pinay who's freezing her ass and tits off survive on $28,000 a year and still send money back home? Theres taxes, rent, food, transport etc. And Canada is not cheap. I'm thinking the real motive is to get into White Man Land and then find some fresh white meat, thus fast tracking the PR process. Are these caregivers classified as OFW? Perhaps one of the Canadian mongers could comment.
Whenever I see a Filipino / Thai / Indian with immigration papers, I immediately think there's a scam going down. Hahaha.
Many pina's consider Jollibee a real treat, they grow up only being able to go to it for very special occasions, if at all. I've found that a JB meal is sometimes more appreciated by the giorls than a much more fancy and expensive meal elsewhere.I took a girl to Subway once and she was soooo happy. I watched her looking thru the sneeze glass at all the condiments and I think she was about to orgasm right there. She took pictures of her sandwich to show her family at home how good she was being treated by foreigner. I agree that Jollibee's is top shelf eating for most of them. KFC is also considered super special. As for me I will just get the ice cream sundae and watch them tear into their meals. I am always amazed at how they will eat every morsel of chicken and leave only clean stripped bones using only a spoon. Occasionally I have taking one who has been around a bit, works a job, and has education beyond high school to a nice restaurant but even then its obvious they are not very comfortable in that setting. Best to find one that has pictures on the menu.
Engine Driver
11-02-19, 01:48
Just don't go in the tourist areas trying to find them.
I rather dated provincianas, girls from the province outside Cebu and Manila, who just go there for work or school, they don't have time to dated much because they are busy, of course until they dated me that is.I give up. Sarcasm is wasted on you, just like oysters, fillet mignon and Chataeu Lafite Rothschild are wasted on a Pinay. Hahaha.
My regular masseuse in Manila just informed me she has submitted her passport application to go to Canada. I initially thought she's going abroad to do massage, but it turns out she's going to be a caregiver. Those old, toothless Canadian codgers will certainly be lucky to get their asses wiped and their dicks washed by a cute Pinay each morning.
Out of curiosity, I looked up pay rates for caregivers in Canuck land and saw that it is $14/ HR. I'm wondering how does a Pinay who's freezing her ass and tits off survive on $28,000 a year and still send money back home? Theres taxes, rent, food, transport etc. And Canada is not cheap. I'm thinking the real motive is to get into White Man Land and then find some fresh white meat, thus fast tracking the PR process. Are these caregivers classified as OFW? Perhaps one of the Canadian mongers could comment.
Whenever I see a Filipino / Thai / Indian with immigration papers, I immediately think there's a scam going down. Hahaha.She has submitted her application for a Passport which is the first step in a long process. With passport in hand she will then have to make an application with a reputable Canadian placement agency. Depending upon Canadian laws governing work permits for foreign caregivers she may or may not get accepted. One thing hurting her will be the lack of experience in the field.
In the event she does get a contract she will have to file with Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) for permission to be an Overseas Foreign Worker (OFW).
I am not sure who will pay for her flight to Canada but all along she will incur fees and costs.
OFW's live on a very frugal budgets sending most of theirs salaries home. Most if not living with their employers will bunk bed up 4-6 in a room saving on rent cost. Others will crash out on the floor.
OFW remittances are 10-12% of the Philippine GNP budget.
It is believed that 10% of the Filipino workers are OFW.
The problem with this is that of course you will be expected to eat the crap they serve as well, which is a sacrifice I'm not willing to make.
GE.Jollibee fried chicken is not that bad. Everything else is crap.
McD breakfasts are OK, everything else is crap.
Some of the other local chains are OK, but a few more peso than McD and JB.
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Out of curiosity, I looked up pay rates for caregivers in Canuck land and saw that it is $14/ HR. I'm wondering how does a Pinay who's freezing her ass and tits off survive on $28,000 a year and still send money back home? .....a.That is just over minimum wage in Canada, they survive the same as do anyone else living on minimum wage, spend as little as possible, have very limited entertainment options etc. Many care givers get the $14/ HR and are live in so no rent or food bills.
Pinas have one advantage, they come from a culture that excels at living as economically as possible. You can buy chicken intestines on a skewer as street food or in the local markets, here, in Canada it is impossible to buy it at all. In supermarkets in affluent areas, it can be difficult to even find chicken liver and other low value cuts of meat.
There are also a significant number of Pinas in Canada supplementing their income the same way as they do here, on SA, PoF and other Canadian dating sites as well as an occasional one working in massage places getting tips for happy endings (although in my home city the Chinese have a lock on this trade.) They get Canadian prices for these services so it is relatively a lot more lucrative than here. ST can be $200 Cdn and up so a couple sessions doubles their income and they will hide it from the tax man as much as they can.
GoodEnough
11-02-19, 06:49
Jollibee fried chicken is not that bad. Everything else is crap.
McD breakfasts are OK, everything else is crap.
Some of the other local chains are OK, but a few more peso than McD and JB.I actually like (or at least don't mind) the Burger King hamburgers. I'm lucky here in Davao in that we own a restaurant and several of our friends do as well, so we get spoiled in terms of quality. Also, I just lived too long in Paris to accept really awful food. Plus of course I do like wine with dinner and somehow, a nice Médoc with a Jollibee burger doesn't cut it. But I do agree about the fried chicken; it's not terrible.
GE.
Engine Driver
11-02-19, 07:13
Also, I just lived too long in Paris to accept really awful food.
GE.GE, I'm not sure when you were in Paris last, but things have changed. Having been there recently, I can assure you that the food and coffee in Paris is shit. Most of the restaurants around Paris order in pre made dishes from huge factories on the outskirts. All the Algerian, Moroccon or Eastern European staff have to do is simply heat it up. It's marginally better than pre cooked supermarket food. Obviously I haven't dined at George V. Hahaha. The best food I had was at the food court at Galeries Lafayette.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/foodanddrinknews/11533010/French-restaurants-are-just-re-heating-factory-food-chef-claims.html
PedroMorales
11-02-19, 12:01
Out of curiosity, I looked up pay rates for caregivers in Canuck land and saw that it is $14/ HR. I'm wondering how does a Pinay who's freezing her ass and tits off survive on $28,000 a year and still send money back home? Theres taxes, rent, food, transport etc. And Canada is not cheap. I'm thinking the real motive is to get into White Man Land and then find some fresh white meat, thus fast tracking the PR process. Are these caregivers classified as OFW? Perhaps one of the Canadian mongers could comment.Whenever I see a Filipino / Thai / Indian with immigration papers, I immediately think there's a scam going down. Hahaha.Bottom of the class. The West is full of these types. When I compared notes with a friend, he said folk in case would be lucky to get a Pinay. $14/ HR + part time would would be heaven for them. They live differently, shop in Asian shops, live together and cut corners in a million ways. She would be going into a Pinay network, some of whom would be offering adult services. It is a canuck land most Canucks now nothing about. Having served in the trenches polishing your knob, her sights are adjusted accordingly. As regards sending money back home, a Pinay I met form Vancouver wanted the money to go the other way, to her to pay her mortgage.
PedroMorales
11-02-19, 12:12
GE, I'm not sure when you were in Paris last, but things have changed. Having been there recently, I can assure you that the food and coffee in Paris is shit. Most of the restaurants around Paris order in pre made dishes from huge factories on the outskirts. All the Algerian, Moroccon or Eastern European staff have to do is simply heat it up. It's marginally better than pre cooked supermarket food. Obviously I haven't dined at George V. Hahaha. The best food I had was at the food court at Galeries Lafayette./URL]Hubris, rue du Borrego, and Pianovins, rue Trousseau, Chartier, Rue du Faubourg Montmartre, and Polidor, Rue Monsieur LE Prince (a favourite of Hemmingway) are all good and very well priced. The trick is to get away from those who do not know their stuff. French cuisine is a tree of many branches and many of them are as strong as ever.
As regards sending money, I find https://www.worldremit.com does the job on the odd occasion I use it. You are not forex trading here so don't sweat the small stuff.
I am not sure who will pay for her flight to Canada but all along she will incur fees and costs.I am dating an OFW agency manager, she told me the hiring employer will pay the airfare. As long as the employee stays for the contract term of normally 2 years the employer will also pay for return air. If the employee quits early the return air is on his / her own nickle. Also, if the employer provides room and board they get one salary rate, if not provided they recieve more money to compensate. Salary rate depends on the country.
Mr Enternational
11-03-19, 00:39
I am dating an OFW agency manager, she told me the hiring employer will pay the airfare. As long as the employee stays for the contract term of normally 2 years the employer will also pay for return air. If the employee quits early the return air is on his / her own nickle.Chick I originally met at LA Cafe has gone on to work at one of those places now. Last week she was telling me that she was sad and felt used and somewhat got in trouble because a lady came back early and owed the money. The lady was crying and shit and she said something about threats from the lady's brother, so she let the lady slide. I gave her the 3rd degree my damn self. Business is business. Somebody had to pay for the shit. She is causing her company to lose money and letting a random stranger off from debt because of a few tears? The lady found the right sucker that day!
CenTexCrash
11-03-19, 03:10
So back in April I had a rushed night in AC, picked up a ONS in Hi Society, out of a group of gals, supposedly civilian/waitress in town from Tarlac. In my hotel we exchanged FB info, she insisted condom on for penetration, but I got carried away, went bare back, she enjoyed it, I meant to pull out but didn't and filled her up. Flip of a switch here: She got super pissed about the risks, still slept in same bed but not okay with more rounds after that, accusing me of being worst human being ever. 10 am, sent her on her way.
Flash forward, thankfully no bun in the oven, dodged a bullet. Also, she keeps messaging me on FB at least once a week with her phonetic English saying how she misses me, when am I comimg back to Angeles City, will I come look for her in Tarlac, sometimes sends me random selfie.
Should I set time aside to meet up again next time in Philippines or decline?
Just to be on the safe side. Once a girl gets angry like that you never know what she has planned. There may ne lingering resentment. Theres plenty of other girls around.
So back in April I had a rushed night in AC, picked up a ONS in Hi Society, out of a group of gals, supposedly civilian/waitress in town from Tarlac. In my hotel we exchanged FB info, she insisted condom on for penetration, but I got carried away, went bare back, she enjoyed it, I meant to pull out but didn't and filled her up. Flip of a switch here: She got super pissed about the risks, still slept in same bed but not okay with more rounds after that, accusing me of being worst human being ever. 10 am, sent her on her way.
Flash forward, thankfully no bun in the oven, dodged a bullet. Also, she keeps messaging me on FB at least once a week with her phonetic English saying how she misses me, when am I comimg back to Angeles City, will I come look for her in Tarlac, sometimes sends me random selfie.
Should I set time aside to meet up again next time in Philippines or decline?
So back in April I had a rushed night in AC, picked up a ONS in Hi Society, out of a group of gals, supposedly civilian/waitress in town from Tarlac. In my hotel we exchanged FB info, she insisted condom on for penetration, but I got carried away, went bare back, she enjoyed it, I meant to pull out but didn't and filled her up. Flip of a switch here: She got super pissed about the risks, still slept in same bed but not okay with more rounds after that, accusing me of being worst human being ever. 10 am, sent her on her way.
Flash forward, thankfully no bun in the oven, dodged a bullet. Also, she keeps messaging me on FB at least once a week with her phonetic English saying how she misses me, when am I comimg back to Angeles City, will I come look for her in Tarlac, sometimes sends me random selfie.
Should I set time aside to meet up again next time in Philippines or decline?While you got carried away going bareback, she also got carried away.
Fast forward to her friends and they are asking what happened to that guy you met? Why he's not sending you allowance? When will you see him again? So since you little night in HiSO she has now learned the ropes from her friends and knows how the game works.
What are you plans on returning to AC? Relationships? If you are a super regular visitor, then maybe. If you are a casual once a year visitor there is nothing to gain for you. If you are seeking a FilipinA wife, well she's a girl that fucks on first nights.
As for FB messages, just stop replying for a while. Maybe drop her off your friends list with some feeble excuse. I assume you have your own friends list on Me Only.
PP.
So back in April I had a rushed night in AC, picked up a ONS in Hi Society, out of a group of gals, supposedly civilian/waitress in town from Tarlac. In my hotel we exchanged FB info, she insisted condom on for penetration, but I got carried away, went bare back, she enjoyed it, I meant to pull out but didn't and filled her up. Flip of a switch here: She got super pissed about the risks, still slept in same bed but not okay with more rounds after that, accusing me of being worst human being ever. 10 am, sent her on her way.
Flash forward, thankfully no bun in the oven, dodged a bullet. Also, she keeps messaging me on FB at least once a week with her phonetic English saying how she misses me, when am I comimg back to Angeles City, will I come look for her in Tarlac, sometimes sends me random selfie.
Should I set time aside to meet up again next time in Philippines or decline?It's very normal for a girl to insist on tarping up outside only to mysteriously forget behind closed doors. Having said that, if they agree on the condition of no CIP, then they expect that promise to be kept and can react angrily when it's not. I have very few morals but for that reason it's the one promise I do tend to keep until we agree otherwise. 😁.
If she didn't get pregnant and now would like to see you again, I wouldn't be concerned about revisiting. Just don't make the same mistake again.
Like many things, if you show her that she can trust your word then she will say thanks in all manner of ways.
Enjoy. G.
Mr Enternational
11-03-19, 10:25
Flip of a switch here: She got super pissed about the risks, still slept in same bed but not okay with more rounds after that, accusing me of being worst human being ever. 10 am, sent her on her way.
Flash forward, thankfully no bun in the oven, dodged a bullet. Also, she keeps messaging me on FB at least once a week with her phonetic English saying how she misses me, when am I comimg back to Angeles City, will I come look for her in Tarlac, sometimes sends me random selfie.
Should I set time aside to meet up again next time in Philippines or decline?First of all I would jump in her shit about her attitude when we were together. Then ask her why she thinks I would want to see her again when she acted like that. She might be bipolar and need some medicine. I got some chicks that act crazy as fucking shit when we are not together (and I make it a point to fuck with them), but soon as they walk through the door they are kitty kats. I would also make it clear that I am not going to waste my time and money coming to see her for her to act crazy like that.
First of all I would jump in her shit about her attitude when we were together. Then ask her why she thinks I would want to see her again when she acted like that. She might be bipolar and need some medicine. I got some chicks that act crazy as fucking shit when we are not together (and I make it a point to fuck with them), but soon as they walk through the door they are kitty kats. I would also make it clear that I am not going to waste my time and money coming to see her for her to act crazy like that.If you ask me all women are fucking bipolar if you know them long enough. If they didn't have tits and pussies I would not have anything to do with them. American chicks are especially prone and show their true colors very early. No wonder our forefathers required dowries to take a woman for a wife, even beautiful ones. They all knew women were a pain in the ass, a burden. Should have never given the girls the right to vote. Since then they have all forgotten their role to be helpmates to man, bear children, cook and clean. Well, sorry about the rant. I must've had too much of Choca Monger's kool aid.
Just to be on the safe side. Once a girl gets angry like that you never know what she has planned. There may ne lingering resentment. Theres plenty of other girls around.I concur. I always dump the girl irrespective of the beauty for even smaller infractions. When I am paying I do not tolerate nothing but good attitude, companionship, friendly.
Last visit one girl sent nasty messages saying I fucked her six times and paid only 3000. Next day she chatted as if nothing happened. When asked why being nasty she claims it was her friend and she loaned her phone. I did not buy that excuse and blocked her.
PedroMorales
11-03-19, 21:31
Reading all your messages, it seems a rose and flower shop would not be viable on Fields Ave or Makati. Not even cheap chocolates. You guys should loosen up and give romance a chance These are women, diamonds, not Pavlovian dogs.
AussieGaigin
11-03-19, 22:51
As for FB messages, just stop replying for a while. Maybe drop her off your friends list with some feeble excuse. I assume you have your own friends list on Me Only.
PP.Just remember that if you make her a "friend" on FB, all of your other friends become "people she may know". This could have implications when things go sour.
Just remember that if you make her a "friend" on FB, all of your other friends become "people she may know". This could have implications when things go sour.That is why a FB account should have a very limited lifespan. I rotate the mongering one every 6 months or so.
If you ask me all women are fucking bipolar if you know them long enough. If they didn't have tits and pussies I would not have anything to do with them. These are the best types.
I've always said the best hookers are like old rollercoasters: the ride could be the best of your life or end with mass casualties. 😁.
Enjoy. G.
Tommy Suharto
11-04-19, 02:16
That is why a FB account should have a very limited lifespan. I rotate the mongering one every 6 months or so.Yes, that's a good idea. But how do you manage two FB accounts?
I tried this in the past. Putting up a short term FB account for mongering. But the facial recognition algorithm that FB uses on photos, always finds a match with my real FB account.
Yes, that's a good idea. But how do you manage two FB accounts?
I tried this in the past. Putting up a short term FB account for mongering. But the facial recognition algorithm that FB uses on photos, always finds a match with my real FB account.I had a similar problem. FB blocked my second account after one day. When I start a new account now, I just put a generic "city" or landscape pic as my profile pic. After a week, I substitute my preferred pic.
I assume they do diligently check all "new" accounts but in typically FB style, do not check again.
Paul.
Yes, that's a good idea. But how do you manage two FB accounts?
I tried this in the past. Putting up a short term FB account for mongering. But the facial recognition algorithm that FB uses on photos, always finds a match with my real FB account.I don't have a real Facebook account, just the mongering one. To cancel it you need to wait two weeks for the account to be deleted, if you log in the account is reactivated.
i tried this in the past. Putting up a short term FB account for mongering. But the facial recognition algorithm that FB uses on photos, always finds a match with my real FB account.What happens if you only open a fake Messenger account rather than full FB account? I'm assuming it still does all the auto cross referencing and recommendations.
For me playing with FB has too many opportunities to fuck up or for too many dots to be connected.
Enjoy. G.
Wicked Roger
11-04-19, 08:58
What happens if you only open a fake Messenger account rather than full FB account? I'm assuming it still does all the auto cross referencing and recommendations.
For me playing with FB has too many opportunities to fuck up or for too many dots to be connected.
Enjoy. G.Create the FB account with a fake photo? I did and never any issues. Clearly not a well person just random from the web. That way nothing is dotted re facial recognition.
I assume you have your own friends list on Me Only.
PP.More info please.
What does the explanation below mean in English? Why would someone post something only they themselves can read?
"Only Me: This option allows you to post stuff to your timeline that is visible only to you. Posts with the audience of Only Me will appear in your News Feed but not your friends' feeds. When you tag someone in your content and choose Only Me, the audience won't expand to include the person you tagged. ".
Cheers. G.
Mr Enternational
11-04-19, 13:13
What does the explanation below mean in English? Why would someone post something only they themselves can read?Because the timeline is basically a diary. They may store parts that they want people to see and parts they want to keep private. But of course 99% of people only use it for shit they want to show other people.
More info please.
What does the explanation below mean in English? Why would someone post something only they themselves can read?
"Only Me: This option allows you to post stuff to your timeline that is visible only to you. Posts with the audience of Only Me will appear in your News Feed but not your friends' feeds. When you tag someone in your content and choose Only Me, the audience won't expand to include the person you tagged. ".
Cheers. G.You are on the right track. I also suggested that the Friends list be set to "Only Me" for monger (and other) profiles. Particularly for the monger profile Filipina will immediately look through your monger profile friends and see 100 females and no males.
Another tip I've learned for building a monger FB account is to be focused about what you want. If you will be travelling to Angeles and Butuan (for instance), then try to only add girls in those towns. This will then focus FB suggestions to those towns and friends of those girls. If you add a few HK maids and your Saudi penpal OFW girls then you quickly end up with lots of requests from girls you can never meet.
As I have read in this forum many times. Using FB is fraught with danger. FB will very quickly work out your accounts are linked in someway.
For my FB profile I do admit, like Wicked Roger, I generally find a non-descript old fake pic from a google or altivista search results. When the girl invariably mentions I'm different I say I's an old pic and I've been working out.
PP.
Wicked Roger
11-05-19, 01:13
You are on the right track. I also suggested that the Friends list be set to "Only Me" for monger (and other) profiles. Particularly for the monger profile Filipina will immediately look through your monger profile friends and see 100 females and no males.
FB will very quickly work out your accounts are linked in someway.
For my FB profile I do admit, like Wicked Roger, I generally find a non-descript old fake pic from a google or altivista search results. When the girl invariably mentions I'm different I say I's an old pic and I've been working out.
PP.Exactly. Plus I don't have a real FB profile as I find FB a waste of time (many pinay would disagree as it is the only source of news they ever read and their life revolves around it).
'Only Me' is used by some to post more naughty stuff and then allow in specific friends. Those profile cannot be found in a normal search and are invite only etc. I knew of such profiles (and was asked to help on lady create one).
I find it hilarious, mongers call Pinays liars and cheats meanwhile we have inmate styled sharing and tutoring how to set up fake FB and other fake and lying dating sites.
Can someone please explain the difference to me?
WestCoast1
11-05-19, 02:58
I find it hilarious, mongers call Pinays liars and cheats meanwhile we have inmate styled sharing and tutoring how to set up fake FB and other fake and lying dating sites.
Can someone please explain the difference to me?I'll take a stab. While the pinay is possibly expressly lying to you (or me; fake needs maybe), the fake FB, while lying, is not necessarily lying to the pilipina. Instead, its lying to all those who you don't want to know that you have another life (family or close personal friends from home possibly). My fake FB page does not even have a profile pic on it (others suggest using a non-descript guy from google images or such). Using my FB page I don't lie to anyone, I am clear about my hobby and prolific activities. The fake FB page (for me, and some others) is not an advertisement or way for girls to find me; it is a way for me to engage others without their knowledge of who I am (until I deem it needed to send my pic in PM), and also hide my hobbies from fam / personal friends. It is possible to have what appears to be a an empty, non-descript FB page utilized for the hobby. Its easy to think you need SOME kind of picture of a guy on there, but not only do you not need that, but simply picking a popular photo from Google might get your account deactivated by FB.
When I chat ladies on PM on FB, there are no lies needed by myself. I have many FB friends (you don't need to make those visible to anyone), 90% are female and they are in my FB for all the bad-girl reasons you can think of (the other 10%, obviously male, are added for other reasons). Hope that helps.
I'll take a stab. While the pinay is possibly expressly lying to you (or me; fake needs maybe), the fake FB, while lying, is not necessarily lying to the pilipina. Instead, its lying to all those who you don't want to know that you have another life (family or close personal friends from home possibly). My fake FB page does not even have a profile pic on it (others suggest using a non-descript guy from google images or such). Using my FB page I don't lie to anyone, I am clear about my hobby and prolific activities. The fake FB page (for me, and some others) is not an advertisement or way for girls to find me; it is a way for me to engage others without their knowledge of who I am (until I deem it needed to send my pic in PM), and also hide my hobbies from fam / personal friends. It is possible to have what appears to be a an empty, non-descript FB page utilized for the hobby. Its easy to think you need SOME kind of picture of a guy on there, but not only do you not need that, but simply picking a popular photo from Google might get your account deactivated by FB.
When I chat ladies on PM on FB, there are no lies needed by myself. I have many FB friends (you don't need to make those visible to anyone), 90% are female and they are in my FB for all the bad-girl reasons you can think of (the other 10%, obviously male, are added for other reasons). Hope that helps.You are not the pussy scammers I am laughing about.
A while back a girl showed me this Americans FB page. He claimed to be an overnight 747 freight pilot for one of the big 2. His routes included stops in Manila, Cebu, Tokyo and other Asian cities.
The only friends he had were pinays in the Philippines. He had a few pictures of gates in Asian airports. None from the cockpit or near a plane. Apparently he was scamming free pussy with this fake set up.
Sometimes I peruse girls FB friends list and can easily spot the fakes. LOL.
Almost certainly there for Long Distance Western Union funding. Although I did consider it a possible Islamic fundraising effort, or even a mongering jokester with a particularly Joker sense of humor.
The only friends he had were pinays in the Philippines. He had a few pictures of gates in Asian airports. None from the cockpit or near a plane. Apparently he was scamming free pussy with this fake set up.
Sometimes I peruse girls FB friends list and can easily spot the fakes. LOL.My sick and twisted mind finds it hilarious that John's Western Union transfers to those mega hot Zaboanga City babes may actually be going to a 70 yo monger in the bars of AC. 😁.
Enjoy. G.
I know scores of filipinas, of all classes, with two or more Facebook accounts. And the photos are easily recognizable to me. They drop one profile and start another at a new stage of life, which may happen every few months. The will drop one when it gets what they call a hacker or a stalker, though I doubt they know what those terms mean. Search on her name, and you'll find it with variants dropping behind her like a cow leaving pies.
Yes, that's a good idea. But how do you manage two FB accounts?
I tried this in the past. Putting up a short term FB account for mongering. But the facial recognition algorithm that FB uses on photos, always finds a match with my real FB account.
My sick and twisted mind finds it hilarious that John's Western Union transfers to those mega hot Zaboanga City babes may actually be going to a 70 yo monger in the bars of AC. 😁.
Enjoy. G.My business mind says that's not a bad money making idea! Let me see about this. LOL.
Meanwhile I just finished up a session with 2 pops from a girl who had FB friend me a few weeks ago. My first one that I went thru with. A few others in the past messaged me but it didn't click like this one did.
Very nice sexual girl with a firm body. Nice abs and a moaner. Which is a big plus.
My sick and twisted mind finds it hilarious that John's Western Union transfers to those mega hot Zaboanga City babes may actually be going to a 70 yo monger in the bars of AC. 😁.
Enjoy. G.Yes, that is quite possible. The situation requites live video confirmation of the little vixen.
I find it hilarious, mongers call Pinays liars and cheats meanwhile we have inmate styled sharing and tutoring how to set up fake FB and other fake and lying dating sites.
Can someone please explain the difference to me?I'll have a go.
Of course many mongers are liars and cheaters. I've certainly been called that by a few pinay. I don't make a monger profile to mislead the Filipina. I do it as a security precaution so that I can disassociate whatever misadventure I have in Leyta, Pampanga or wherever.
Apart from my name, pic and birthdae it's no lie.
BTW, I also lie about my age and tell the Filipina I am ten years older than actual. That plays with some deep psychology.
PP.
Tommy Suharto
11-06-19, 04:07
I know scores of filipinas, of all classes, with two or more Facebook accounts. And the photos are easily recognizable to me. They drop one profile and start another at a new stage of life, which may happen every few months. The will drop one when it gets what they call a hacker or a stalker, though I doubt they know what those terms mean. Search on her name, and you'll find it with variants dropping behind her like a cow leaving pies.Yeah. But they drop one and start a new one, right. Or are these girls able to use the 2 different FB accounts at the same time?
Switching the "Face recognition" setting in FB, would that work? - "Do you want Facebook to be able to recognize you in photos and videos?" setting it to no, that's maybe be too simple right? It 'll probably still check for duplicate accounts, isn't it? How about a photo that's been taken from the side, or would that facial recognition still pick up the shape and size of our noses and go. Yep, found you.
BrainDrain
11-06-19, 05:19
Yeah. But they drop one and start a new one, right. Or are these girls able to use the 2 different FB accounts at the same time?Even Filipina can work out how to use multiple login on the same device. They are smart when it comes to technology.
To clarify, when I say that the filipina drops one profile and starts another, I don't mean that she officially deactivates the first one. No, that is too complicated when working from a cell phone. So it stays active, whether or not she continues to use it. Because I live here and enjoy ongoing relationships, I am more sensitive to cheating than the average tourist. I recently dropped an otherwise perfectly good college student GF when I discovered I was blocked from one of her profiles. The which profile showed her posing sexily on trips not with me. (She is literally begging for a second chance, having deleted the questionable trips. I have not decided how to proceed--maybe a month or two suspension. I am so "estricto".
Yeah. But they drop one and start a new one, right. Or are these girls able to use the 2 different FB accounts at the same time?
Switching the "Face recognition" setting in FB, would that work? - "Do you want Facebook to be able to recognize you in photos and videos?" setting it to no, that's maybe be too simple right? It 'll probably still check for duplicate accounts, isn't it? How about a photo that's been taken from the side, or would that facial recognition still pick up the shape and size of our noses and go. Yep, found you.
Wicked Roger
11-06-19, 15:52
To clarify, when I say that the filipina drops one profile and starts another, I don't mean that she officially deactivates the first one. No, that is too complicated when working from a cell phone. So it stays active, whether or not she continues to use it.
The which profile showed her posing sexily on trips not with me. (She is literally begging for a second chance, having deleted the questionable trips. I have not decided how to proceed--maybe a month or two suspension. I am so "estricto".I know many pinays with 5+ FB profiles. I ask them which one is the best they tell me. Then I say why have you so many old and they say 'I forget the password'!
As for your lady begging for another chance. . give her one but set the rules an say any more rubbish like that no more. And suspend her for 1 month then tell her she has to be very good and give her a 'punishment' - I can come and show you ideas of you like LOL. Am full of good ideas LOL.
I recently dropped an otherwise perfectly good college student GF when I discovered I was blocked from one of her profiles. The which profile showed her posing sexily on trips not with me. (She is literally begging for a second chance, having deleted the questionable trips. I have not decided how to proceed--maybe a month or two suspension. I am so "estricto".You just have to live with that understanding. If she is good, enthusiastic then a student is good to have in your portfolio.
I wonder if you are dating my ex. She is such a naughty student.
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BTW, I also lie about my age and tell the Filipina I am ten years older than actual. That plays with some deep psychology.
PP.I will be 64 in a few days, however I do look younger than that by about 10 years. (I was asked for my ID going into bars at home when I was well into my 30's and legal age there is 18). In all honesty if I got rid of the grey could get away with claiming late 40's.
Several have accused me of doing what PilotPaul is actually doing, claiming I was older to tap into the inherent reverence for age here in the Philippines. (They didn't put it that way but that was the thinking.).
Steve Nash
11-09-19, 06:19
My regular masseuse in Manila just informed me she has submitted her passport application to go to Canada. I initially thought she's going abroad to do massage, but it turns out she's going to be a caregiver. Those old, toothless Canadian codgers will certainly be lucky to get their asses wiped and their dicks washed by a cute Pinay each morning.
Out of curiosity, I looked up pay rates for caregivers in Canuck land and saw that it is $14/ HR. I'm wondering how does a Pinay who's freezing her ass and tits off survive on $28,000 a year and still send money back home? Theres taxes, rent, food, transport etc. And Canada is not cheap. I'm thinking the real motive is to get into White Man Land and then find some fresh white meat, thus fast tracking the PR process. Are these caregivers classified as OFW? Perhaps one of the Canadian mongers could comment.
Whenever I see a Filipino / Thai / Indian with immigration papers, I immediately think there's a scam going down. Hahaha.For most Filipinas working as caregivers here in Canada is easy to get a PR, all they need to do is work for 2 years as a caregiver, and then you can apply for residence, they can even bring their kids and family when they apply, I seen a friend of mine bringing her kid to Canada after working 2 years here, her kid (living in Philippines) and her got their PR in less than 3. 5 years living here.
About the expenses, the first 2 years they must work as live-in, so they don't pay for rent and food since they are living with their employer.
After they get their PR, usually around 3 years (2 years before they can apply and 1 year for the application process), they can be live-out and work anywhere.
I have dated many filipina caregivers with PR (some without PR) what they usually do when they get their PR is they will find an apartment and either rent it with friends to save money, or they rent it by themselves, most filipinas I dated they live with roommates and sometimes parents, very few will rent it by themselves.
Some of them will stay with their employer as live-in and only rent as weekender, most will change of career, study nursing or whatever career they had back home, they get student loans and work part-time as a cashier or cleaning offices / houses, usually the young filipinas do this.
I had seen afew working with minimal wages and then later on deciding to go back as caregivers because they will get pay more, a caregiver with PR gets pay more, they can easily get pay $600 to $800 a week depending of their employer, minimal wage in other jobs is only $500 a week after taxes. Plus you add the benefits caregivers get like employer paying taxes, Christmas bonus that can be from $1000 to $5000, that's how much a rich employer will give to a filipina they like alot, they also get birthday gifts, metropass, if you have license they pay you more for driving their kids everywhere.
Caregiver jobs are very popular for filipinas here, I would say that 80 to 90% of filipinas that come to Canada by themselves came as a caregiver as some point in their lives. Is so easy to become a resident here for a filipina caregiver. But you need to apply from an overseas country, if you apply from Philippines it will take you at least 4 years like my ex, but if you apply from overseas it will take you around 1 year only. Most of my exes caregivers had worked in Hong Kong, Dubai, Singapore, Taiwan and even Europe before coming here.
Engine Driver
11-13-19, 10:59
For most Filipinas working as caregivers here in Canada is easy to get a PR, all they need to do is work for 2 years as a caregiver, and then you can apply for residence, they can even bring their kids and family when they apply, I seen a friend of mine bringing her kid to Canada after working 2 years here, her kid (living in Philippines) and her got their PR in less than 3. 5 years living here.
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Caregiver jobs are very popular for filipinas here, I would say that 80 to 90% of filipinas that come to Canada by themselves came as a caregiver as some point in their lives. Is so easy to become a resident here for a filipina caregiver. But you need to apply from an overseas country, if you apply from Philippines it will take you at least 4 years like my ex, but if you apply from overseas it will take you around 1 year only. Most of my exes caregivers had worked in Hong Kong, Dubai, Singapore, Taiwan and even Europe before coming here.Thanks SN for the detailed explanation. Definitely answered my queries. Seems like a good little rort for those intellectual pigmies to exploit in White Man Land. Well if they are happy to give PR to reformed hookers for wiping asses, washing dicks and feeding custard to rich, toothless Canadian vegetables, then that's their problem. Over in my country, you at least need to obtain a bogus college diploma from a bogus college and show you are in a bogus job before getting PR. Slightly easier than becoming a care giver. I'm sure half the diplomas that foreigners in my country have have all been freshly printed on Khao San Road. Hahaha. Probably from the same printing shop the FIFF got his PHD from.
For most Filipinas working as caregivers here in Canada is easy to get a PR, all they need to do is work for 2 years as a caregiver, and then you can apply for residence, they can even bring their kids and family when they apply, I seen a friend of mine bringing her kid to Canada after working 2 years here, her kid (living in Philippines) and her got their PR in less than 3. 5 years living here.
About the expenses, the first 2 years they must work as live-in, so they don't pay for rent and food since they are living with their employer.
After they get their PR, usually around 3 years (2 years before they can apply and 1 year for the application process), they can be live-out and work anywhere.
I have dated many filipina caregivers with PR (some without PR) what they usually do when they get their PR is they will find an apartment and either rent it with friends to save money, or they rent it by themselves, most filipinas I dated they live with roommates and sometimes parents, very few will rent it by themselves.
Some of them will stay with their employer as live-in and only rent as weekender, most will change of career, study nursing or whatever career they had back home, they get student loans and work part-time as a cashier or cleaning offices / houses, usually the young filipinas do this.
I had seen afew working with minimal wages and then later on deciding to go back as caregivers because they will get pay more, a caregiver with PR gets pay more, they can easily get pay $600 to $800 a week depending of their employer, minimal wage in other jobs is only $500 a week after taxes. Plus you add the benefits caregivers get like employer paying taxes, Christmas bonus that can be from $1000 to $5000, that's how much a rich employer will give to a filipina they like alot, they also get birthday gifts, metropass, if you have license they pay you more for driving their kids everywhere.
Caregiver jobs are very popular for filipinas here, I would say that 80 to 90% of filipinas that come to Canada by themselves came as a caregiver as some point in their lives. Is so easy to become a resident here for a filipina caregiver. But you need to apply from an overseas country, if you apply from Philippines it will take you at least 4 years like my ex, but if you apply from overseas it will take you around 1 year only. Most of my exes caregivers had worked in Hong Kong, Dubai, Singapore, Taiwan and even Europe before coming here.Great informative report.
CenTexCrash
02-05-20, 05:32
Why'all are probably tired of seeing me on the PH forum.
Had my first Filipina xp in Sept 2018, wrote trip report.
(http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1007-Manila&p=2295188#post2295188).
Got this LA Cafe 2nd floor girl's WhatsApp info, she sends sweet nothings weekly.
April 2019 I met up with her again, she invited me to the same hotel next door to LA Cafe. I came more prepared with my own condoms (for once) but this same girl was kind of mechanical, and admitted she packed a few pounds since then. I didn't want to say anything but she was not as fun the first time around.
If I'm a once a year visitor and if I happen to be in LA Cafe and I might have not bothered letting her know I was in Manila ahead of time, and she recognizes me in the LAC crowd, will that be a good thing or a very very very bad thing?
Mr Enternational
02-05-20, 06:10
If I'm a once a year visitor and if I happen to be in LA Cafe and I might have not bothered letting her know I was in Manila ahead of time, and she recognizes me in the LAC crowd, will that be a good thing or a very very very bad thing?What do you mean? She is a hooker and you are a customer. Why are you trying to make someone seeing you out to be anything, good or bad? You can say hello and keep it moving.
April 2019 I met up with her again, she invited me to the same hotel next door to LA Cafe. I came more prepared with my own condoms (for once) but this same girl was kind of mechanical, and admitted she packed a few pounds since then. I didn't want to say anything but she was not as fun the first time around.Do your math. While you have been in your home county being faithful she has been trying her best to see 1,2,3 guys per week, per day. That could be (2020-2018)*365*3 = that could be more than 3,000 cocks she has had with or without their own condoms.
Time to get a newbie and tell yourself to believe you are the first foreigner.
Engine Driver
02-27-20, 22:52
I have met several Flips who can be considered nutters. They're basically masters at manipulation and know how to act around someone in order to stay undetected. Flips see people as either potential targets, rivals, or predators. That's it. Just three categories. They don't see long-term connections, intimacy or growth in any of their relationships. They'll stay as long as they're getting what they want or until the bank account has been drained. Nothing is off limits and they nearly always have a justification, excuse, or reason for doing what they do.
With the case of Flips, the added motivation is seeking access to unearned fortune in the west and climbing the social ladder. They have seen how easy it is in "Pretty Woman" and have fantasied about the life of the lead character in "50 Shades of Grey". Every Flip I know thinks the latter movie is real and that's how couples are in the west. Even so called educated LBFMs are mesmerized by that trilogy. They are so childish and easily influenced.
Engine Driver
02-27-20, 22:55
I have never seen a race that ages as badly as Flips. By the age of 40, most Flip women are walking blocks of flesh. Rather like brown refrigerators. 4'8" high and 4'8" wide. Hahaha. And their attitudes suck. Most who get to the west find that it's not quite like in the movies and their white husbands are indeed losers. Low class alcoholics who have been shunned by their families. I don't come across many Flips here in Australia, even though there are thousands of them. Canuck Land seems to be their Eldorado. The ones in Sydney all live in the western suburbs, in working class situations. They are nurses, caregivers, retail clerks or junior office admin types. When they board Cebu Pacific bound for Manila, they check in hundreds of tons of food items, packed in cardboard boxes and paid for by the white man, to give to their relatives. Hahaha.
I have never seen a race that ages as badly as Flips. By the age of 40, most Flip women are walking blocks of flesh. Rather like brown refrigerators. 4'8" high and 4'8" wide. Hahaha. And their attitudes suck. Most who get to the west find that it's not quite like in the movies and their white husbands are indeed losers. Low class alcoholics who have been shunned by their families. I don't come across many Flips here in Australia, even though there are thousands of them. Canuck Land seems to be their Eldorado. The ones in Sydney all live in the western suburbs, in working class situations. They are nurses, caregivers, retail clerks or junior office admin types. When they board Cebu Pacific bound for Manila, they check in hundreds of tons of food items, packed in cardboard boxes and paid for by the white man, to give to their relatives. Hahaha.Geez you are making a few generalisations there. There are indeed many flipina in Australia whom meet those descriptions. There are those that don't. I can speak about my local Filipina fuck-buddy. She's 47 and size 6. Happily married but for whatever reason has looked outside for sex, nothing happens at home (or so I am told).
Another one I know that I ave not yet got into bed is 35 ish and average look but happily married to her filipino husband.
Another one that I know is also 35 ish and moved here as a single career woman. She has a womanly figure, not undernourished and not flabby.
If you look for the stereotypes then that is all you will see. The others are there, just off your current radar settings.
All of that being said, for sure I will continue to regularly bang No 1, No 3 is interstate so I can only see her on biz rips. No 2 I think will not get her into bed.
For the best filipina though we must go to Philippines.
PP.
Wicked Roger
03-02-20, 07:47
I have never seen a race that ages as badly as Flips. By the age of 40, most Flip women are walking blocks of flesh. Rather like brown refrigerators. 4'8" high and 4'8" wide. Hahaha. And their attitudes suck. Most who get to the west find that it's not quite like in the movies and their white husbands are indeed losers. Low class alcoholics who have been shunned by their families. I don't come across many Flips here in Australia, even though there are thousands of them. Canuck Land seems to be their Eldorado. The ones in Sydney all live in the western suburbs, in working class situations. They are nurses, caregivers, retail clerks or junior office admin types. When they board Cebu Pacific bound for Manila, they check in hundreds of tons of food items, packed in cardboard boxes and paid for by the white man, to give to their relatives. Hahaha.I would agree with PP as there are all shapes and sizes in Aussie. I know some slim ones but also chubbies. Issues is when they arrive they gorge on the food etc but don't exercise. Those that do the latte stay fit and slim IMHO. In Sydney and NSA I know of a few clubs where better looking and sexier Asian go including pinays and some are very tasty. Just depends where you are and what you want. If in the NT or the boon dock very unlikely you see any pinay slim or otherwise but in the main cities there are plenty.
I know slim sexy 50+ pinays also who look after themselves as Like to bang and have fun realizing that not all Aussie men like overweight chubbies LOL.
Example of one slim 50+ attached so we can judge but I do agree ED that many let themselves go once arrive in the western countries. But I am very fussy.
Rickys Wild
03-02-20, 19:03
I have never seen a race that ages as badly as Flips. By the age of 40, most Flip women are walking blocks of flesh. Rather like brown refrigerators. 4'8" high and 4'8" wide. Hahaha. And their attitudes suck. Most who get to the west find that it's not quite like in the movies and their white husbands are indeed losers. Low class alcoholics who have been shunned by their families. I don't come across many Flips here in Australia, even though there are thousands of them. Canuck Land seems to be their Eldorado. The ones in Sydney all live in the western suburbs, in working class situations. They are nurses, caregivers, retail clerks or junior office admin types. When they board Cebu Pacific bound for Manila, they check in hundreds of tons of food items, packed in cardboard boxes and paid for by the white man, to give to their relatives. Hahaha.That's pretty harsh dude.
Engine Driver
03-05-20, 11:53
That's pretty harsh dude.I did not expect so many mongers who spend their spare time chasing hookers all over the world to be so woke.
Pinaypounder
03-05-20, 21:10
I have never seen a race that ages as badly as Flips. By the age of 40, most Flip women are walking blocks of flesh. Rather like brown refrigerators. 4'8" high and 4'8" wide. Hahaha. And their attitudes suck. Most who get to the west find that it's not quite like in the movies and their white husbands are indeed losers. Low class alcoholics who have been shunned by their families. I don't come across many Flips here in Australia, even though there are thousands of them. Canuck Land seems to be their Eldorado. The ones in Sydney all live in the western suburbs, in working class situations. They are nurses, caregivers, retail clerks or junior office admin types. When they board Cebu Pacific bound for Manila, they check in hundreds of tons of food items, packed in cardboard boxes and paid for by the white man, to give to their relatives. Hahaha.I have a Filipina GF here now in Canuck land, where there are fricken millions of them my GF is 37 and has a good body. There are indeed many of them here that gain weight ASAP, access to Tim Hortons (where half of them work) increased disposal income and the cultural fact that exercise is foreign leads to them becoming small refrigerators which is sad because there are so many big white fridges already. In there defense many of them work 2 or more jobs to send money to their families and husbands back home. Most come here to work as Tourist Visas are hard to come by and marriage is a long process.
I am back there this fall for a long long overdue visit where I will be focused on the 80 pounders. Having lived with this one for a few months now I am not sure I can marry one until I am genuinely old. Their general lack of maturity and intelligence is annoying most days.
But I always treat them well and plan to share some of my forthcoming riches!
Be nice; Karma is a ***** boys.
Pinaypounder
03-05-20, 22:20
That is just over minimum wage in Canada, they survive the same as do anyone else living on minimum wage, spend as little as possible, have very limited entertainment options etc. Many care givers get the $14/ HR and are live in so no rent or food bills.
Pinas have one advantage, they come from a culture that excels at living as economically as possible. You can buy chicken intestines on a skewer as street food or in the local markets, here, in Canada it is impossible to buy it at all. In supermarkets in affluent areas, it can be difficult to even find chicken liver and other low value cuts of meat.
There are also a significant number of Pinas in Canada supplementing their income the same way as they do here, on SA, PoF and other Canadian dating sites as well as an occasional one working in massage places getting tips for happy endings (although in my home city the Chinese have a lock on this trade.) They get Canadian prices for these services so it is relatively a lot more lucrative than here. ST can be $200 Cdn and up so a couple sessions doubles their income and they will hide it from the tax man as much as they can.Western Canuck here and used to have Nannies and have met and fucked a few.
Couple of notes.
Liveins have Room and Board deducted from their wages.
Most have 2nd job for cash cleaning or babysitting.
Never encountered one as a prostitute or happy ending girl.
Some are shameless gold diggers but for the most part they are not, they are typically good women working hard.
When you compare here to HK or China or anywhere else they are glad to be here!
PP.
TurdyCurdyOne
03-06-20, 09:16
That's pretty harsh dude.It might be harsh but it's generally true. Here in the P. I. If they have a kid they are invariably fat with no shape. It's nearly impossible to find one with breasts above an A cup that is not fat.
The attitudes of the ones under 30 have gone to h*ll and they are approaching the b*chiness of western women. Also Philippines is not so poor as they would have you think, many have money here but they just want to spend yours, not theirs.
TurdyCurdyOne
03-06-20, 09:28
I have met several Flips who can be considered nutters. They're basically masters at manipulation and know how to act around someone in order to stay undetected. Flips see people as either potential targets, rivals, or predators. That's it. Just three categories. They don't see long-term connections, intimacy or growth in any of their relationships. They'll stay as long as they're getting what they want or until the bank account has been drained. Nothing is off limits and they nearly always have a justification, excuse, or reason for doing what they do.
With the case of Flips, the added motivation is seeking access to unearned fortune in the west and climbing the social ladder. They have seen how easy it is in "Pretty Woman" and have fantasied about the life of the lead character in "50 Shades of Grey". Every Flip I know thinks the latter movie is real and that's how couples are in the west. Even so called educated LBFMs are mesmerized by that trilogy. They are so childish and easily influenced.I never thought I could be scammed. Wrong. Filipinas, especially if they are over the P. I. Average of 80 IQ are dangerous. Never assume they are going to be loyal and treat you honestly because 99.9 % of the time they are just faking emotional attachment. They lie even to themselves and see money=love. I was lucky I only got screwed out of a couple hundred bucks. Lesson learned. Also know that the government here will not treat you fairly as a foreigner and a totally different set of laws / rules apply to you and you can be accused and convicted of the most malicious lies with no evidence. It is really an uked up Country with no justice for foreigners and racist to boot.
MutantChicken
03-06-20, 20:20
I have met several Flips who can be considered nutters. They're basically masters at manipulation and know how to act around someone in order to stay undetected. Flips see people as either potential targets, rivals, or predators. That's it. Just three categories. They don't see long-term connections, intimacy or growth in any of their relationships. They'll stay as long as they're getting what they want or until the bank account has been drained. Nothing is off limits and they nearly always have a justification, excuse, or reason for doing what they do.
With the case of Flips, the added motivation is seeking access to unearned fortune in the west and climbing the social ladder. They have seen how easy it is in "Pretty Woman" and have fantasied about the life of the lead character in "50 Shades of Grey". Every Flip I know thinks the latter movie is real and that's how couples are in the west. Even so called educated LBFMs are mesmerized by that trilogy. They are so childish and easily influenced.I will add my 2 cents into this and maybe I'm getting caught up in a division that wasn't intended by the OP, but I am reading that he wants to say "flips" as like that whereas westerners / Australians aren't like that.
All I need to remind him is how many times have Australian wives divorced their husbands at times of financial difficulty IE money has run out or their husbands usefulness has diminished.
How man friends does he have that he has known since high school but once they get a GF / wife / have kids they too busy to answer a email / text until they want or need something from you.
So to say that long term connections, intimacy has no value in flip society is true across the world, so to draw attention to this issue here is a unfair conclusion.
The truth is if you act like a victim and make it easy for people to mistreat you, take unfair advantage of you then you will be the victim. The only difference is in Australia people won't scam you for under 1000 Aud, whereas here they will scam you for 100 peso.
I never thought I could be scammed. Wrong. Filipinas, especially if they are over the P. I. Average of 80 IQ are dangerous. Never assume they are going to be loyal and treat you honestly because 99.9 % of the time they are just faking emotional attachment. They lie even to themselves and see money=love. I was lucky I only got screwed out of a couple hundred bucks. Lesson learned. Also know that the government here will not treat you fairly as a foreigner and a totally different set of laws / rules apply to you and you can be accused and convicted of the most malicious lies with no evidence. It is really an uked up Country with no justice for foreigners and racist to boot.I'm in the early stages with a scammer, met on pinalove nice provincial 24 yo girl, never married, one pinoy BF many years ago, IT grad, parents are local officials. No kids so still slim and quite sexy.
Early in the video chats she says she's a good girl, never do blow job, doesn't drink, just wants a good career.
Certainly sounds unique so I continued the chats.
It took three video chats over three days and then that third video chat she's on her bed naked, breasts out fingering herself. Boobs certainly look untouched by babies. So not as innocent as she said.
Two days later, a message that she lied and was married to a USA guy but now separated.
Early morning message today tells me she is drunk (but she doesn't drink!
Interestingly she always travels to her provincial city on a Friday afternoon and returns back to her provincial house (no signal!) on Monday morning. Interesting how her house where she doesn't have signal her viber can still show she checks messages but never replies at night. Most definitely in a domestic live-in arrangement, maybe still with a foreigner.
I'm good at detecting incongruity.
I think this is where potential scam victims fall into the trap.
So while her words may say she is pure her actions tell a different story. They are desperate to believe the sweet words (I love you, I miss you etc etc). It is interesting that while they are happy to sprout fake sweet words thinking we may be hooked on them in a few video calls it doesn't enter their mind to think my sweet words are also fake.
I'm happy to keep her in my database for a later fun weekend somewhere. She seems like she will take to my training very well.
PP.
Pinaypounder
03-06-20, 23:28
I'm in the early stages with a scammer, met on pinalove nice provincial 24 yo girl, never married, one pinoy BF many years ago, IT grad, parents are local officials. No kids so still slim and quite sexy.
Early in the video chats she says she's a good girl, never do blow job, doesn't drink, just wants a good career.
I'm happy to keep her in my database for a later fun weekend somewhere. She seems like she will take to my training very well.
PP.I love the scammers. Like Pilot Paul I am easily able to detect deceit. Then its simple "do unto others as they would do unto you". Just make sure not to leave them pregnant or to take the game to far, I. E. Visits with Family. I had a Filipina here in Canada lie to me and I got her good.
Then even better she ended up with a known cheater, Karma is a *****!
Treat the good ones great and the bad ones leave them sweaty wet and alone!
PP.
Pinaypounder
03-06-20, 23:51
It might be harsh but it's generally true. Here in the P. I. If they have a kid they are invariably fat with no shape. It's nearly impossible to find one with breasts above an A cup that is not fat.
The attitudes of the ones under 30 have gone to h*ll and they are approaching the b*chiness of western women. Also Philippines is not so poor as they would have you think, many have money here but they just want to spend yours, not theirs.Have you been to the Philippines? Do you have any idea of the average wage paid to University grads? I agree that they will rarely reach for their wallet but 98% of them could not pay if their life depended on it and certainly not the women interested to meet a foreign (which I also am but I am at least learned about the process).
I have had women with the means offer to pay and in fact pay for a dinner or lunch or something but I only know 3 of the hundreds that have had the means. The odd prostitute likely has the means but you are paying!
With regards to their shape I have nailed many a MILF that was just fine probably not as perfect as your body but just fine. I don't fuck the ones as the cock doesn't fit and they suck in bed typically.
Maybe South America is a better fit for you.
PP.
I honestly think that the girls themselves often believe their own stories and that's why they expect us to as well. I swear the farytailes are for their self esteem as much as guys' 'save a princess" fantasies.
I'm happy to play along: if she thinks that I think she has been sitting at home, legs crossed, for 24 years means that I get access to a cum gargling porn queen then who'se to argue? 😁.
Enjoy. G.
Engine Driver
03-07-20, 08:54
I honestly think that the girls themselves often believe their own stories and that's why they expect us to as well. I swear the farytailes are for their self esteem as much as guys' 'save a princess" fantasies.You are spot on with your assessment. Why can't mongers just meet the girl, release their load and just leave? The ongoing interviews and banal chats with illiterate cum dumpsters is not only time consuming and boring, it's also stressful and emotionally draining. In the west, where does a fully employed man find the time to keep chatting with useless women back in the Philippines?
Not one chick I have ever met has reached for her fake LV wallet to pay! Hahahaha.
Wicked Roger
03-07-20, 15:47
With regards to their shape I have nailed many a MILF that was just fine probably not as perfect as your body but just fine. I don't fuck the ones as the cock doesn't fit and they suck in bed typically.
Maybe South America is a better fit for you.
PP.I have as well even though I don't have many in my contact list. The MILF / GILF I play with are all slim and naughty as the pictures below can prove. Some have bodies better than the 20 year olds and still have had babies.
And love BDSM, being kinky, wearing those clothes in the malls so lovely jubley for me LOL.
Chocha Monger
03-07-20, 20:18
You are spot on with your assessment. Why can't mongers just meet the girl, release their load and just leave? The ongoing interviews and banal chats with illiterate cum dumpsters is not only time consuming and boring, it's also stressful and emotionally draining. In the west, where does a fully employed man find the time to keep chatting with useless women back in the Philippines?
Not one chick I have ever met has reached for her fake LV wallet to pay! Hahahaha.Mongers cannot just release their load and leave because they think sex is love, and some even enjoy the drama and faux romance. These mongers either are pensioners or employed in meaningless dead end jobs in their homelands. Chatting useless women back in the Philippines provides them with emotional distress that injects color into the drudgery of daily existence in the West. One might say that they are dropping their emotional loads with their LBFMs.
................ One might say that they are dropping their emotional loads with their LBFMs.One might say, they are birds of a feather, who fuck together. Deserve each other.
My chicks, of course are a class above that lot. We deserve each other too, LOL.
TurdyCurdyOne
03-08-20, 00:05
I'm in the early stages with a scammer, met on pinalove nice provincial 24 yo girl, never married, one pinoy BF many years ago, IT grad, parents are local officials. No kids so still slim and quite sexy.
Early in the video chats she says she's a good girl, never do blow job, doesn't drink, just wants a good career.
Certainly sounds unique so I continued the chats..I am an honest guy. I tell them in the very beginning when they start their BS promises and BS compliments and BS affections: "I pay NO ATTENTION to what you say to me, means NOTHING. I only pay attention to what I SEE you DO. " I am hoping the scammers will give up at this point, but many continue still thinking they can pull the wool over my eyes. The others I am warning do not make false promises, do not lie to me or are GONE. But I am looking for a good woman for full relationship. I don't care what the liars say if I just want to UK them.
TurdyCurdyOne
03-08-20, 00:12
Have you been to the Philippines? Do you have any idea of the average wage paid to University grads? I agree that they will rarely reach for their wallet but 98% of them could not pay if their life depended on it and certainly not the women interested to meet a foreign (which I also am but I am at least learned about the process).
I have had women with the means offer to pay and in fact pay for a dinner or lunch or something but I only know 3 of the hundreds that have had the means. The odd prostitute likely has the means but you are paying!
With regards to their shape I have nailed many a MILF that was just fine probably not as perfect as your body but just fine. I don't fuck the ones as the cock doesn't fit and they suck in bed typically.
Maybe South America is a better fit for you.
PP.Been living her for 7+ years, thanks. How long have you lived in the P. I? You might try reading the forum before you ask stupid questions. I did not mention western women because they don't exist in my mind. I leave those women for guys like you.
Engine Driver
03-08-20, 05:49
Mongers cannot just release their load and leave because they think sex is love, and some even enjoy the drama and faux romance. These mongers either are pensioners or employed in meaningless dead end jobs in their homelands. Chatting useless women back in the Philippines provides them with emotional distress that injects color into the drudgery of daily existence in the West. One might say that they are dropping their emotional loads with their LBFMs.The Philippines is the easiest place on earth to get laid because the women are the most promiscuous on the planet. 400 years of strict Catholic education by the Vatican has had no impact on curtailing their loose moral standards. An octogenarian monger with a withered, marshmallow cock will find it easier to root a cute 20-year old in the Philippines than to buy toilet paper from the supermarket in his home country at the moment. Foreign mongers mercilessly leverage the economic power they possess to obtain cheap sex, while poor, desperate Pinays will leverage the axe wound between their legs to dupe their victims on the pretense of offering true love. The mismatched situation in terms of the economic gap, the educational gap and the age gap is entirely comical. If the Pinays weren't so cunning, manipulative and dishonest, you would almost feel sorry for them.
There are some long-term sexpats on this board who will claim that a Pinay is paragon of virtue and that I am completely mistaken. Hahaha. We are not talking about the rich Hi-so Chinese-Fil babes from Davao whose panties never have skid marks or the UP Diliman educated Senator's daughter who is forever a virgin. The mongering class have no interest in these women.
The majority of low class or pensioner mongers from the West will only meet the dregs of Philippines society while on their sex-cations. Most of the women they meet will be uneducated and unemployed, or engaged in menial work paying less than 10,000 pesos per month. They are all fair game and will drop their panties at the mere sight of an old, overweight fucker in a mobility scooter. Not much effort is required.
As CM points out, loser mongers with dead end jobs or those living off meagre pensions in the West make up most of the victims on dating sites. They are the ones who think banal chit-chat with a bunch of ugly hookers is true love. The rest of us have more important and interesting things to do.
TurdyCurdyOne
03-09-20, 12:36
The Philippines is the easiest place on earth to get laid because the women are the most promiscuous on the planet. 400 years of strict Catholic education by the Vatican has had no impact on curtailing their loose moral standards. An octogenarian monger with a withered, marshmallow cock will find it easier to root a cute 20-year old in the Philippines than to buy toilet paper from the supermarket in his home country at the moment. Foreign mongers mercilessly leverage the economic power they possess to obtain cheap sex, while poor, desperate Pinays will leverage the axe wound between their legs to dupe their victims on the pretense of offering true love. The mismatched situation in terms of the economic gap, the educational gap and the age gap is entirely comical. If the Pinays weren't so cunning, manipulative and dishonest, you would almost feel sorry for them..The big lie about the Philippines is that age does not matter. In reality it DOES matter but they are willing to trade your money and the ability to control an old man more, for pretending to be your girlfriend. In the back fo their minds they are scheming for the ring on the carousel, most of them. As always there are always exceptions to any generalization. I used to think it would be better to look for an older Filipina here, but I find the older ones are just as selfish, dishonest and scheming. At least the younger ones are too ignorant (and stupid) to be very dangerous. The ones you find online are the worst. The younger Filipinas, the ones I see in Dumaguete are mostly not interested in us older guys. But then Dumaguete is a tough nut to crack, no pun intended. As for me I have yet to find a place to meet upper class or highly educated or wealthy Filipinas that are interested in old (though gwapo) white guys. I get the impression they are just not interested in Foreigners. I think they are not even interested in the occasional younger white guy unless just for fun. Younger white guys often have to turn tail to get back to their jobs or source of income. It is true that Filipinas really seem to like sex and their Catholic background does not inhibit them in the least. However the lack of sex education in the schools and elsewhere frequently leads to a woman who lack skill in the bedroom, but not always. It is true that many older foreigners here get duped. There is no fool like an old fool. But if you have an IQ above triple digits and don't addle your brain all the time with alcohol, you can do alright. I have a 24 year old gwapo g / f back with me now. I deflowered her so her commitment to me is stronger, but I realize it's a temporary thing. Maybe she will care for me the few years I may have left? But I am not counting on it.
Engine Driver
03-10-20, 05:37
The big lie about the Philippines is that age does not matter. In reality it DOES matter but they are willing to trade your money and the ability to control an old man more, for pretending to be your girlfriend. In the back fo their minds they are scheming for the ring on the carousel, most of them. As always there are always exceptions to any generalization. I used to think it would be better to look for an older Filipina here, but I find the older ones are just as selfish, dishonest and scheming. At least the younger ones are too ignorant (and stupid) to be very dangerous. The ones you find online are the worst. The younger Filipinas, the ones I see in Dumaguete are mostly not interested in us older guys. But then Dumaguete is a tough nut to crack, no pun intended. As for me I have yet to find a place to meet upper class or highly educated or wealthy Filipinas that are interested in old (though gwapo) white guys. I get the impression they are just not interested in Foreigners. I think they are not even interested in the occasional younger white guy unless just for fun. Younger white guys often have to turn tail to get back to their jobs or source of income. It is true that Filipinas really seem to like sex and their Catholic background does not inhibit them in the least. However the lack of sex education in the schools and elsewhere frequently leads to a woman who lack skill in the bedroom, but not always..Nice report and great insights. You are in a unique position as you are resident in the Philippines and have had time to absorb the culture around you. Enjoy your gwapo girlfriend for as long as you can. You know full well that she is waiting for you to cark it so that she can claim her inheritance. She is smart and patient enough to play the long game. Hahahaha.
Unfortunately, the ageing, two week monger will never scratch below the surface in Flipsville, so will be oblivious to the bigger game being played. He will return home thinking his soft marshmallow cock, his ponytail and his old persons smell are simply irresistible to Pinay hookers and will think he can find true love in that shithole. He is already planning his next trip on the flight out of NAIA, so addicted is he to BBFSCIP with LBFMs, who are young enough to be his great granddaughters. Yes, he thinks he can find someone at last to wash his shit stained why fronts and to bring him his beer at 10.00 am while he lies on the couch, scraping cheese from under his foreskin. He believes all those sweet messages those wily hookers on PL send him on WhatsApp are signs of true love. It is indeed a sad sight to see 80-year old mongers shuffle around AC looking for their princesses. Who does the better AC shuffle? The hookers on stage or the love struck octogenarian monger with his Zimmer frame?
For thousands of years, the wealthy, elite and politically powerful have only associated with and married within their own tight circles. This was a way to keep and multiply wealth, increase their political power and maintain prestige. This is still the case, whether it be Flipsville or Rich White Man Land. Foreigners will never get close to the elite in any country unless there is significant economic or political benefit to be gained in the transaction, and particularly so in Asia. In Flipsville, this is very unlikely to happen, so there is no point in mongers even considering it. Highly educated, wealthy, and upper class Filipinas do not want to meet foreigners because they don't need to. Why bring shame to their families by associating with a sleezy, twice divorced monger? And an ageing one at that. They know the foreigner does not have two notes to rub together. An elite Filipina has simply nothing to gain by meeting an old foreign douchebag, but has plenty to lose. Like social status. Pfffftt. She can get her own visa to the USA without the mongers help, thank you very much.
Unlike the 18-year old, uneducated, highly impressionable LBFM from the provinces, the middle or upper class Filipina and her family will know immediately a monger's real reason for being in the Philippines. Despite the monger's protestations, they are not going to buy the banjo convention, religious study, snorkelling or diving stories as valid reasons for being in Flipsville. Hahaha. Nice try. They know the monger is in country for one reason only. And that is to fuck as many prostitutes as he can, leveraging all the perceived benefits a meagre government pension, a US passport and white, wrinkly skin can bring. Mongers will not be able to bribe the wealthy Senator father with cheap bottles of tequila, nor the mother with packets of half melted Caramello Koalas bought at Woolworths to access their daughter's delectable pussy. Hahaha. It's not that easy. Hahaha.
For thousands of years, the wealthy, elite and politically powerful have only associated with and married within their own tight circles. This was a way to keep and multiply wealth, increase their political power and maintain prestige..... Highly educated, wealthy, and upper class Filipinas do not want to meet foreigners because they don't need to. Why bring shame to their families by associating with a sleezy, twice divorced monger? ....You've left off the most important reason a hiso girl very rarely pairs up with a westerner, let alone a western monger: his main attraction, the Permanent Residence and improved living standards lottery wins, are actually negatives to an Asian with serious means. Very few John's are going to offer maids, cooks, drivers and a life of unrestricted luxury back in White Man's Land and she knows it because she probably lived there for her college years. There is no way she wants to be cleaning house and changing nappies when she could continue living a life of pleasure. As a matter of fact she probably doesn't even know how to because she has never had to do them in her life.
Real world examples:
Good looking, well employed young guy hooks up with a previous Miss Indonesia. Needless to say she was absolutely stunning but equally as useless around the house. A 7 day holiday required 7 sets of clothing because she had no idea how to do a wash.
A young, good looking CFO of a Top 100 company local division marries into serious local money. He has the means to maintain massive house and Business Class holidays locally. He"s repatriated home into a senior executive roll. She follows with a clutch of kids. Within 3 months he has accepted a CEO role based in, you guessed it, Singapore. They are still there.
Enjoy. G.
Enjoy. G.
Mr Enternational
03-11-20, 04:55
The big lie about the Philippines is that age does not matter. In reality it DOES matter but they are willing to trade your money and the ability to control an old man more, for pretending to be your girlfriend. My girlfriend who is an educated Filipina seems to believe the opposite.
Me: does the ages of partners matter in your country?
Her: Huh? What do you mean?!
Me: like if you are 23 and I am 60.
Her: So. It doesn't matter at all.
Her: There's this couple who was known online because the guy is 62 and the lady is 26. They're happily married.
Her: Why did you suddenly ask?!
Me: what you mean suddenly?
Her: This question just popped up from your head out of nowhere?! 🤔129300;129300;.
Her: Why did you ask that?! Are you dating a teenager?! 😂128514;128514;.
And while I am on it, the other day when I was there she told me about a business that she owns. No idea why she had not said anything about it before. But it is called Lakbay Museo and is located in S Maison mall which is attached to Mall of Asia. She took me there and they gave me the grand tour. It teaches about the culture in different regions in the Philippines. They give you a sheet of coins which you can use to buy various foodstuffs throughout the activity.
She also just opened a bed & breakfast in Siargao.
TurdyCurdyOne
03-11-20, 08:15
Nice report and great insights. You are in a unique position as you are resident in the Philippines and have had time to absorb the culture around you. Enjoy your gwapo girlfriend for as long as you can. You know full well that she is waiting for you to cark it so that she can claim her inheritance. She is smart and patient enough to play the long game. Hahahaha.
Unfortunately, the ageing, two week monger will never scratch below the surface in Flipsville, so will be oblivious to the bigger game being played..You will get old too, just wait.
TurdyCurdyOne
03-11-20, 08:19
My girlfriend who is an educated Filipina seems to believe the opposite.
Me: does the ages of partners matter in your country?
Her: Huh? What do you mean?!
Me: like if you are 23 and I am 60.
Her: So. It doesn't matter at all.
Her: There's this couple who was known online because the guy is 62 and the lady is 26. They're happily married.
Her: Why did you suddenly ask?!
Me: what you mean suddenly?.And maybe, just maybe, she is telling you what she thinks you want to hear?
TurdyCurdyOne
03-11-20, 08:25
You've left off the most important reason a hiso girl very rarely pairs up with a westerner, let alone a western monger: his main attraction, the Permanent Residence and improved living standards lottery wins, are actually negatives to an Asian with serious means. Very few John's are going to offer maids, cooks, drivers and a life of unrestricted luxury back in White Man's Land and she knows it because she probably lived there for her college years. There is no way she wants to be cleaning house and changing nappies when she could continue living a life of pleasure. As a matter of fact she probably doesn't even know how to because she has never had to do them in her life.
Real world examples:.Also handsome, well-employed Kano expats require their dates and future spouses to contribute financially significantly to the relationship. Forget about "providing" and giving your paycheck to your partner for her to manage. Even if he does help with the laundry and childcare occasionally. Also they are mostly required to have a good job or source of income themselves.
My girlfriend who is an educated Filipina seems to believe the opposite.I have had similar conversations with other Filipinas, Mr. E. As for the fictional counterpoints of the 5th grade educated trainwreck (deported by his own country) and his literary gifted, koolaid induced, ugly mug pal do tell why you even go to the PI if you hate it so much. You guys should take up the dueling banjos and do something useful with your life! Hahaha.
Mr Enternational
03-12-20, 08:38
The line has to be drawn some fucking where:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=foKj9Hxh6nU&t=8s
Mr Enternational
03-12-20, 08:46
And maybe, just maybe, she is telling you what she thinks you want to hear?Why would she think I want to hear that? There is no big age difference between us. I stayed in her condo; she did not stay in mine. I do not have a doctorate; she does. My family is not full of doctors and lawyers; hers is. I don't own any businesses; she owns 2. Hell, her and her driver picked me up driving me around Manila. So maybe, just maybe, I am the one telling her what I think SHE wants to hear!
You will get old too, just wait.TC1, don't you know that trainwreck and his reach around buddy don't age? Their San mig soaked brains, keen eyesight, unfailing optimism and Adonis bodies have been preserved for all eternity!
Why would she think I want to hear that? There is no big age difference between us. I stayed in her condo; she did not stay in mine. I do not have a doctorate; she does. My family is not full of doctors and lawyers; hers is. I don't own any businesses; she owns 2. Hell, her and her driver picked me up driving me around Manila. So maybe, just maybe, I am the one telling her what I think SHE wants to hear!Sounds like Love. I hope you invite all of us to the wedding!
TurdyCurdyOne
03-13-20, 08:43
Why would she think I want to hear that? There is no big age difference between us. I stayed in her condo; she did not stay in mine. I do not have a doctorate; she does. My family is not full of doctors and lawyers; hers is. I don't own any businesses; she owns 2. Hell, her and her driver picked me up driving me around Manila. So maybe, just maybe, I am the one telling her what I think SHE wants to hear!For the same reason they tell all foreigners they are gwapo, even the ones that are ugly.
TurdyCurdyOne
03-13-20, 12:10
I will add my 2 cents into this and maybe I'm getting caught up in a division that wasn't intended by the OP, but I am reading that he wants to say "flips" as like that whereas westerners / Australians aren't like that.
All I need to remind him is how many times have Australian wives divorced their husbands at times of financial difficulty IE money has run out or their husbands usefulness has diminished.
How man friends does he have that he has known since high school but once they get a GF / wife / have kids they too busy to answer a email / text until they want or need something from you.
So to say that long term connections, intimacy has no value in flip society is true across the world, so to draw attention to this issue here is a unfair conclusion.
The truth is if you act like a victim and make it easy for people to mistreat you, take unfair advantage of you then you will be the victim. The only difference is in Australia people won't scam you for under 1000 Aud, whereas here they will scam you for 100 peso.I don't know but I think I have to amicably disagree with this. I find Pinays to be more dishonest, deceptive and mercenary than western women. Maybe it's because western goldiggers are easier to spot, or maybe I have not been rich enough to attract these manipulative women in the West. But I really think Western women are more direct and will just reject you rather than to string you along with an act and false pretensions. The Flips I meet here are just bad to the core and their so called warm and feminine demeanor disguises a heart of cold steel. Not all but many.
I don't know but I think I have to amicably disagree with this. I find Pinays to be more dishonest, deceptive and mercenary than western women. Maybe it's because western goldiggers are easier to spot, or maybe I have not been rich enough to attract these manipulative women in the West. But I really think Western women are more direct and will just reject you rather than to string you along with an act and false pretensions. The Flips I meet here are just bad to the core and their so called warm and feminine demeanor disguises a heart of cold steel. Not all but many.I tend to flip back and forth on this.
Sometimes I think it is cultural, they do it so we will not loose face. Rather than reject us directly, they will say, to far, traffic too bad, I have work tomorrow etc. We westerners respond by addressing the excuse, I'll send a Grab, you can leave early tomorrow to make it to work. While we are saying that they are thinking we are the stupid one and cannot understand a Pina no, because it is indirect so we will not lose face and feel bad about being rejected.
Sometimes I think that they are just a bunch of lying bitches.
PedroMorales
03-14-20, 12:59
The line has to be drawn some fucking where:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=foKj9Hxh6nU&t=8sI watched that video and a few revealing follow ups. Too big a topic to comment on beyond that. The youtube comments are worth glancing through.
Chocha Monger
03-14-20, 14:25
Nice report and great insights. You are in a unique position as you are resident in the Philippines and have had time to absorb the culture around you. Enjoy your gwapo girlfriend for as long as you can. You know full well that she is waiting for you to cark it so that she can claim her inheritance. She is smart and patient enough to play the long game. Hahahaha.
Unfortunately, the ageing, two week monger will never scratch below the surface in Flipsville, so will be oblivious to the bigger game being played. He will return home thinking his soft marshmallow cock, his ponytail and his old persons smell are simply irresistible to Pinay hookers and will think he can find true love in that shithole. He is already planning his next trip on the flight out of NAIA, so addicted is he to BBFSCIP with LBFMs, who are young enough to be his great granddaughters. Yes, he thinks he can find someone at last to wash his shit stained why fronts and to bring him his beer at 10.00 am while he lies on the couch, scraping cheese from under his foreskin. He believes all those sweet messages those wily hookers on PL send him on WhatsApp are signs of true love. It is indeed a sad sight to see 80-year old mongers shuffle around AC looking for their princesses. Who does the better AC shuffle? The hookers on stage or the love struck octogenarian monger with his Zimmer frame?Take everything and give back nothing! This is the pirate's code and Filipinas follow it to the letter. Many a cheesy dicked pensioner have and will continue to learn that the hard way. No decent Filipina is dreaming of playing house with an elderly foreigner, washing his undies, and fetching him beer at 10:00 AM as he loafs on the couch scratching his shriveled balls.
John Clayton
03-14-20, 23:58
... fetching him beer at 10:00 AM as he loafs on the couch scratching his shriveled balls.I think you should post a picture of your youthful balls to show you're qualified to rage on we oldsters.
TurdyCurdyOne
03-15-20, 08:34
I think you should post a picture of your youthful balls to show you're qualified to rage on we oldsters.Haha, yeah I am sure EngineDriver is Fabio, but from 25 years ago. Also the phrase, 'it takes one to know one' comes to mind.
Take everything and give back nothing! This is the pirate's code and Filipinas follow it to the letter. Many a cheesy dicked pensioner have and will continue to learn that the hard way. No decent Filipina is dreaming of playing house with an elderly foreigner, washing his undies, and fetching him beer at 10:00 AM as he loafs on the couch scratching his shriveled balls.For those of you that want a more unbiased report of living and dating the Philippines, including the age difference debate, please see Reekay's videos in youtube. He lived there for six years and admits making several mistakes which we can all learn from. Choca's youthful ignorance and senior bashing is legendary.
WestCoast1
03-15-20, 16:54
I think you should post a picture of your youthful balls to show you're qualified to rage on we oldsters.Hell ya. If I can do it, anyone can.
Take everything and give back nothing! This is the pirate's code and Filipinas follow it to the letter. Many a cheesy dicked pensioner have and will continue to learn that the hard way. No decent Filipina is dreaming of playing house with an elderly foreigner, washing his undies, and fetching him beer at 10:00 AM as he loafs on the couch scratching his shriveled balls.The wisdom being shared here is valuable beyond measure, take heed gentlemen.
Take everything and give back nothing! This is the pirate's code and Filipinas follow it to the letter. Many a cheesy dicked pensioner have and will continue to learn that the hard way. No decent Filipina is dreaming of playing house with an elderly foreigner, washing his undies, and fetching him beer at 10:00 AM as he loafs on the couch scratching his shriveled balls.Incredible humour there Chocha Monger. Always looking forward to reading your stuff.
CenTexCrash
03-20-20, 06:50
Civilian girl picked up at HiSo April 2019 went to my room for night. Post at*http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1511-Filipinas-Opinions-and-Advice&p=2388098&viewfull=1#post2388098.
Despite other ISG users pleas, I kept replying to her periodic messages, and we agreed next time I was in AC, she'd come in from Tarlac to visit me. As a safety net, I invited her for 2 nights, I didn't tell her I was there 1 day earlier too.
February 2020.
Saturday night, she gets off her day job takes a Jeepney from Tarlac, arrives in AC at 7 pm, I show her something I smuggled from Mexico: morning after pills. Sold in Mexico, made in Hungary, and presented to a Filipina. It's a foreign item to her she's never heard of this concept, but takes it anyway. Still asks me to pull out. We shower and do a session. Bare back. One deposit. We get dressed to eat dinner then meet her other friends in AC to go visit some lounges. Get back to hotel do another session, nut inside again, and as we nod off, ask her about that night in HiSo and since then.
She swears she is purely a civilian from the sleepy town of Tarlac raising her toddler child, it was her first night out in a long time at HiSo with friends as civilians when I picked her up. And between then and now (10 months) she has not been with anyone local / foreign between bangs.
Sunday 6 am her alarm goes off she catches a ride back to Tarlac promises same time later tonight, I roll over. Did uneventful stuff, wasted $9 on Imax for Birds Of Prey. Around 4 pm she starts messaging me that her son's birthday is coming up in 2 weeks and she's worried she can't afford a basic party this year, nd asking for cash. I was going to donate 3000 p for all nighter, but got a soft spot so upped that to 3000 p x 2 nights so set aside 6000 p I might regret. *.
Not sure if this part is huge deal but Sunday night 7 pm, staff waived her thru lobby and she walked straight to my room. Gave her another pill, and we showered and banged again and a 3rd internal deposit. We both were tired and fell asleep. Set my alarm for 4:30 am to catch first flight out to Singapore at 7 am.
We hopped in same Grab, she hopped out where Narcisso St*dead ends near short walk to SM Jeepney area we gave a hug goodbye and I was off to Clark.
Since then, the Facebook messaging has gone awol, we've messaged maybe 3 or 4 times, and all initiated by me. First transponding she showed me pics of her son enjoying backyard BBQ and cake. From Aril 2019-January 2020 every 8-12 days I get a "hillow" then after flying out of Clark that trend seems to bottom out.
Mr Enternational
03-20-20, 07:30
I show her something I smuggled from Mexico: morning after pills. Sold in Mexico, made in Hungary, and presented to a Filipina. It's a foreign item to her she's never heard of this concept, but takes it anyway. Still asks me to pull out.
Gave her another pill, and we showered and banged again and a 3rd internal deposit.Why is she taking the pills before you fuck?
Since then, the Facebook messaging has gone awol, we've messaged maybe 3 or 4 times, and all initiated by me.Just because you are back home lonely does not mean that she is at home without shit to do. Why does it matter who messages who first? I hate when women say that shit. I didn't know there were dudes out there worrying about the same shit.
Soapy Smith
03-20-20, 11:02
Since then, the Facebook messaging has gone awol, we've messaged maybe 3 or 4 times, and all initiated by me. First transponding she showed me pics of her son enjoying backyard BBQ and cake. From Aril 2019-January 2020 every 8-12 days I get a "hillow" then after flying out of Clark that trend seems to bottom out.Perhaps a blessing in disguise. At least she is not continuously hitting you up for Western Union deposits.
Incredible humour there Chocha Monger. Always looking forward to reading your stuff.Glad you are easily amused there, Sxxx. Are you still doing the knots in those two by fours you like? Or have you graduated to something with mosquito bites?
Perhaps a blessing in disguise. At least she is not continuously hitting you up for Western Union deposits.Despite a multitude of Western deposits, she won't get a Union out of it.
Around 4 pm she starts messaging me that her son's birthday is coming up in 2 weeks and she's worried she can't afford a basic party this year, nd asking for cash. I was going to donate 3000 p for all nighter, but got a soft spot so upped that to 3000 p x 2 nights so set aside 6000 p I might regret. *.So you paid her P6 k for to nights? She did what you asked her to do.
Why do you expect her to msg you? When you tell her you will be back "next week" then she will come alive again. For now she is busy meeting other guys. Please keep to your place in her rotation.
Take everything and give back nothing! This is the pirate's code and Filipinas follow it to the letter. Many a cheesy dicked pensioner have and will continue to learn that the hard way. No decent Filipina is dreaming of playing house with an elderly foreigner, washing his undies, and fetching him beer at 10:00 AM as he loafs on the couch scratching his shriveled balls.This couldn't possibly be me. I don't start drinking until noon!
Chocha Monger
03-29-20, 18:15
The line has to be drawn some fucking where:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=foKj9Hxh6nU&t=8sDid you fellas notice that he has a ponytail?
Engine Driver
04-08-20, 04:33
Mongers on ISG are confusing the concept of short-term pleasure with happiness. Sex with a Pinay hooker only delivers 10 minutes of pleasure and then what? Nothing. People can get all of that in the west without the need to travel to Shitsville and getting branded a sex tourist. Most of the mongers are downtrodden losers in their home countries. They are shunned by their families, usually divorced, have no real career prospects, are physically unfit and not as wealthy as they describe. On top of that, the empowerment of women in the west has not gone in their favour and thus they are bitter about their relegation to the bottom of the pile. They travel to poor SE Asian countries to take advantage of the huge power differential that exists, largely based on financial advantage, white skin and a foreign passport. They can play out the old colonial master fantasy in Flipsville. The wily Pinays know exactly how to play along. The #MeToo movement and the progression of the status of women in the West over the past 50 years means these loser mongers can only exist on the periphery of society. All that changes when they go to the Philippines or Thailand, where despite their beer bellies, bald heads, wrinkled skin and marshmallow cocks, they are feted like rock stars. Don't think for one minute that the admiration and adulation of these idiots is genuine. Hahahaha. Asian women are masters at manipulation and game playing.
The Pinay and Thai girls don't need an education from the #MeToo movement. They are far more empowered, confident and in control than any woman in the west. They know the value of their pussies and know how the man from the west lusts after their tiny tits, tight clam, brown skin and soiled panties. The power imbalance is actually in favor of the LBFMs. That's how it always will be.
VictorHugo99
04-08-20, 13:36
Hi M. Éthe,
I follow your general evaluation of SE Asia mongers with great interest, though I understand that it is based on your your personal sample size of subjects met.
I do hope that the representation might not be universal in nature.
Nevertheless, I do agree completely that SE FL hobby contacts should be taken as short term candidates, since their romance is as short as our financial commitment to them, their family, plans, visas etc.
I do question if the feminine liberation movement in the west is as important in SE Asia among our hobby candidates?
Take care friends, happy reflexion on the Darwinistic natural selection of your hobby partners, especially during this contagious season!
May the force be with you all, Vic.
Hope that.
Mongers on ISG are confusing the concept of short-term pleasure with happiness. Sex with a Pinay hooker only delivers 10 minutes of pleasure and then what? Nothing. People can get all of that in the west without the need to travel to Shitsville and getting branded a sex tourist. Most of the mongers are downtrodden losers in their home countries. They are shunned by their families, usually divorced, have no real career prospects, are physically unfit and not as wealthy as they describe. On top of that, the empowerment of women in the west has not gone in their favour and thus they are bitter about their relegation to the bottom of the pile. They travel to poor SE Asian countries to take advantage of the huge power differential that exists, largely based on financial advantage, white skin and a foreign passport. They can play out the old colonial master fantasy in Flipsville. The wily Pinays know exactly how to play along. The #MeToo movement and the progression of the status of women in the West over the past 50 years means these loser mongers can only exist on the periphery of society..
Pinaypounder
04-08-20, 18:08
Mongers on ISG are confusing the concept of short-term pleasure with happiness. Sex with a Pinay hooker only delivers 10 minutes of pleasure and then what? Nothing. People can get all of that in the west without the need to travel to Shitsville and getting branded a sex tourist. Most of the mongers are downtrodden losers in their home countries. They are shunned by their families, usually divorced, have no real career prospects, are physically unfit and not as wealthy as they describe. On top of that, the empowerment of women in the west has not gone in their favour and thus they are bitter about their relegation to the bottom of the pile. They travel to poor SE Asian countries to take advantage of the huge power differential that exists, largely based on financial advantage, white skin and a foreign passport. They can play out the old colonial master fantasy in Flipsville. The wily Pinays know exactly how to play along. The #MeToo movement and the progression of the status of women in the West over the past 50 years means these loser mongers can only exist on the periphery of society. All that changes when they go to the Philippines or Thailand, where despite their beer bellies, bald heads, wrinkled skin and marshmallow cocks, they are feted like rock stars. Don't think for one minute that the admiration and adulation of these idiots is genuine. Hahahaha. Asian women are masters at manipulation and game playing.
The Pinay and Thai girls don't need an education from the #MeToo movement. They are far more empowered, confident and in control than any woman in the west. They know the value of their pussies and know how the man from the west lusts after their tiny tits, tight clam, brown skin and soiled panties. The power imbalance is actually in favor of the LBFMs. That's how it always will be.Do you have a point or are you just losing your mind?
Engine Driver
04-09-20, 06:50
Do you have a point or are you just losing your mind?It would be fair to say those who have devoted their entire lives to pounding Pinay pussy are the ones who have lost their minds. Imagine all that time, effort and money that could have been channeled to more useful pursuits, rather than being wasted on 10 minutes of pleasure with a wily, brown fuck machine.
I second that.
It's a blessing man. We have seen many mongers servicing their lifestyle remotely thinking they are keeps and does meet other guys. That's a myth.
I remember my senior monger friend, Pinga99 advice.
" Love them but leave them there."
Mongering is all about fucking, enjoying, paying right amount for service rendered and move on to next one. They are so many to enjoy and fuck.
Stay safe and stay home.
Inblr01.
Perhaps a blessing in disguise. At least she is not continuously hitting you up for Western Union deposits.
Mr Enternational
04-09-20, 16:39
" Love them but leave them there."
Mongering is all about fucking, enjoying, paying right amount for service rendered and move on to next one. They are so many to enjoy and fuck.Easy to say when you are not yearning for love and to feel needed by someone. I meet a lot of hookers that would make great wives, and know a lot that some guy has come along and made his wife. I would not do it myself, and I would advise against it, but if one should do it then he better choose wisely (but of course he won't).
Easy to say when you are not yearning for love and to feel needed by someone. I meet a lot of hookers that would make great wives, and know a lot that some guy has come along and made his wife. I would not do it myself, and I would advise against it, but if one should do it then he better choose wisely (but of course he won't).I won't say never but it's extremely rare for anyone to be able to take the bar out of the girl.
I one must, it's much better to put time and effort into finding a civilian than a working girl. Not a fool proof option but far more likely to succeed.
Enjoy. G.
WestCoast1
04-10-20, 02:38
It would be fair to say those who have devoted their entire lives to pounding Pinay pussy are the ones who have lost their minds.But not this one. Don't know of anyone who has devoted their "entire lives" to such a thing as pounding the pinay (or almost any other thing). We have an entire Board here who spend differing amounts of time mongering (including ED). Why the bitterness to your own kind? Your last two posts here would fit nicely in the dictionary as an example under the term 'bitter'. Find a mirror.
Imagine all that time, effort and money that could have been channeled to more useful pursuits, Such as? Many of us have previously done (and continue to do) 'useful pursuits': college, taking care of family, raised kids, giving to charity, careers, saved money, secured retirement. Do tell ED, what other useful pursuits does your judgemental mind suggest for the gents?
rather than being wasted on 10 minutes of pleasure Sorry you are suffering this affliction. You've mentioned 10 minutes twice here this week. For me that would be a bad day and / or a one-off.
with a wily, brown fuck machine.Yes, extremely wiley. Even under lockdown (and especially under lockdown) I have a girl happy to spend the night here 2 x weekly (and asking for more time), for: About half the ST 'going-rate' on this Board. There is another who comes 2 x weekly for afternoon joy, for: Half the first girl's amount. Yes, SOOOOO wiley. I must have "lost my mind".
I'm with PP here.
Engine Driver
04-10-20, 03:51
But not this one. Don't know of anyone who has devoted their "entire lives" to such a thing as pounding the pinay (or almost any other thing). We have an entire Board here who spend differing amounts of time mongering (including ED). Why the bitterness to your own kind? Your last two posts here would fit nicely in the dictionary as an example under the term 'bitter'. Find a mirror.
Such as? Many of us have previously done (and continue to do) 'useful pursuits': college, taking care of family, raised kids, giving to charity, careers, saved money, secured retirement. Do tell ED, what other useful pursuits does your judgemental mind suggest for the gents?
Sorry you are suffering this affliction. You've mentioned 10 minutes twice here this week. For me that would be a bad day and / or a one-off..Dear Westie, there's an expression in my country "Come in Spinner". If the post doesn't apply to you, no need to get worked up about it. Just leave it alone. It's just harmless chit chat in a time of mind numbing boredom. Which just happens to be true.
You must be mistaken. I've got nothing to be bitter about at all. Haha haha. The Philippines is the easiest place on earth to get laid. I've always had a good time and went home always exhausted, with a sore dick, from too much sex. Getting a root with a hot LBFM is easier than taking candy from a baby. Sweet chicks still send me messages, hoping I will be sending them on a trip to WU. Haha haha. I just ignore them.
Lots of more useful pursuits do exist if you look for them; like removing lint from my belly button, weeding my garden and watching my superannuation (your 401 k) balance fall like a lead balloon. Haha haha.
Mongers from Rich White Man Land do not need to travel to Shitsville just to root wily young girls. My point is why get branded a sex tourist, when you can access hot girls in the safety and secrecy of your home city? It's cheaper overall and you can deal with girls who actually might have an IQ above 40. Besides, they have good ventilators and virus test kits which work in the West, contrary to what long term Manila sexpats might say. I just note a sense of panic and desperation amongst mongers in the Philippines thinking they are going to die before scoring with just one more LBFM.
NapaSlapper
04-10-20, 03:54
But not this one. Don't know of anyone who has devoted their "entire lives" to such a thing as pounding the pinay (or almost any other thing). We have an entire Board here who spend differing amounts of time mongering (including ED). Why the bitterness to your own kind? Your last two posts here would fit nicely in the dictionary as an example under the term 'bitter'. Find a mirror.
Such as? Many of us have previously done (and continue to do) 'useful pursuits': college, taking care of family, raised kids, giving to charity, careers, saved money, secured retirement. Do tell ED, what other useful pursuits does your judgemental mind suggest for the gents?
Sorry you are suffering this affliction. You've mentioned 10 minutes twice here this week. For me that would be a bad day and / or a one-off.
Yes, extremely wiley. Even under lockdown (and especially under lockdown) I have a girl happy to spend the night here 2 x weekly (and asking for more time), for: About half the ST 'going-rate' on this Board. There is another who comes 2 x weekly for afternoon joy, for: Half the first girl's amount. Yes, SOOOOO wiley. I must have "lost my mind".
I'm with PP here.With due respect Maybe its you who have lost your mind.
The phills is on lockdown, all are told to stay at home, wear their masks and keep at least 2 meters from other people, yet you are here bragging on your conquests without a care for other peoples lives.
Think Engine driver is absolutely correct some people live, breathe for fucking prostitutes even if it means taking huge risks whether barebacking or having prostitutes over while people are dying in their thousands due to covid 19.
I ignored that first rant. But not this one....Ozstraya has been in lockdown for a while now and the cracks are starting to show. We've had people stabbed over toilet roles, 15 yo check out chicks abused because people have to wait in line and people jailed for going for a walk while in isolation.
We've all seen the experiment where mice are added to a cage one at a time and things go from a civil society to a mass of in fighting and conflict. Separate mongers from their prey, confine them to quarters and the same will happen.
With all the blue balls floating around, I'm surprised more haven't gone rogue. 😳.
Westie, good luck being locked in paradise while we are locked out. I'm jealous. 😁.
Enjoy. G.
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Engine Driver
04-10-20, 09:55
Hi M. the,
I follow your general evaluation of SE Asia mongers with great interest, though I understand that it is based on your your personal sample size of subjects met.
I do hope that the representation might not be universal in nature.
Nevertheless, I do agree completely that SE FL hobby contacts should be taken as short term candidates, since their romance is as short as our financial commitment to them, their family, plans, visas etc.
I do question if the feminine liberation movement in the west is as important in SE Asia among our hobby candidates?.This is turning out to be an interesting discussion. Hahahahaha.
Fit, young, good looking, wealthy, professionally successful mongers with established family relationships usually do not board aircraft bound for the Philippines or Thailand for the sole intention of fucking low class prostitutes. They will be able to get as much sex as they can in the West, either paid or for free, or perhaps even from their wives. Normal people will not risk being branded a sex tourist and will not want to consequently destroy their reputations. It's worse than what mongers might think. Mongers are welcome to prove me wrong.
The mongers I have met or seen on multiple trips to SE Asia are deeply flawed characters and fit my earlier description exactly. You would only need to look at me (head like a bashed crab) to know I too fit the category I described. Hahahahaha. The exception to this is a rather famous board member who can pass for Don Draper or Idris Elba, depending on his mood. You can guess who he is.
The feminist movement has had a big impact on the sex tourists who visit Thailand or Philippines. They are shit scared of the women back in the West and have been mentally scarred by them, and possibly financially destroyed by them as well. Escaping to SE Asia to fuck hookers is a welcome respite as they can become a man again thanks to 100 MG of Viagra, their paternalistic (colonial) approach and the power of foreign currency. Their power and virility is restored temporarily. The wily hookers will play the sweet, innocent damsel in distress role perfectly. You only need to read the thread "American Women" on ISG to know how much mongers hate women from the West. I am spot on in my assessment.
I welcome feedback from other mongers, but please, no need for abuse or insults.
TurdyCurdyOne
04-10-20, 10:19
Mongers on ISG are confusing the concept of short-term pleasure with happiness. Sex with a Pinay hooker only delivers 10 minutes of pleasure and then what? Nothing. People can get all of that in the west without the need to travel to Shitsville and getting branded a sex tourist. Most of the mongers are downtrodden losers in their home countries. They are shunned by their families, usually divorced, have no real career prospects, are physically unfit and not as wealthy as they describe. On top of that, the empowerment of women in the west has not gone in their favour and thus they are bitter about their relegation to the bottom of the pile. They travel to poor SE Asian countries to take advantage of the huge power differential that exists, largely based on financial advantage, white skin and a foreign passport. They can play out the old colonial master fantasy in Flipsville. The wily Pinays know exactly how to play along. The #MeToo movement and the progression of the status of women in the West over the past 50 years means these loser mongers can only exist on the periphery of society. All that changes when they go to the Philippines or Thailand, where despite their beer bellies, bald heads, wrinkled skin and marshmallow cocks, they are feted like rock stars. Don't think for one minute that the admiration and adulation of these idiots is genuine. Hahahaha. Asian women are masters at manipulation and game playing.
The Pinay and Thai girls don't need an education from the #MeToo movement. They are far more empowered, confident and in control than any woman in the west. They know the value of their pussies and know how the man from the west lusts after their tiny tits, tight clam, brown skin and soiled panties. The power imbalance is actually in favor of the LBFMs. That's how it always will be.I have been rich and I have been poor. I hold multiple college degrees (summa cum laude).
There is some truth to what you say but it is a gross over-generalization. When I was poor it was hard to date in the USA even though I have been told I am handsome. When I was rich with a well known company, it was easy. But guess what, then the problem became finding a be*ch that was WORTH spending any time with. I find American women mostly narcissistic, often fat, greedy / selfish and generally not worth bothering with. I discovered how much better foreign born and raised women were when I found a Brazilian g / f and I haven't looked back.
If that makes me a loser, I guess I am. I have a 24 year old Filipina g / f that turns heads and guys walk by to check her out. I guess they think I am a loser since I am old (but not fat) and here in the Philippines, so I must, like you think, be a loser. But they can't quite figure out how this pretty woman is with me and they are alone. I don't pay her for sex but I give her a Western standard of living she cannot get in her present circumstances. Not all mongers are failures, although many are. I could go back to my profession and make good money. It's not a good place to live unless you're happily married with family an that's getting more rare by the minute.
Chocha Monger
04-11-20, 03:05
Mongers on ISG are confusing the concept of short-term pleasure with happiness. Sex with a Pinay hooker only delivers 10 minutes of pleasure and then what? Nothing. People can get all of that in the west without the need to travel to Shitsville and getting branded a sex tourist. Most of the mongers are downtrodden losers in their home countries. They are shunned by their families, usually divorced, have no real career prospects, are physically unfit and not as wealthy as they describe. On top of that, the empowerment of women in the west has not gone in their favour and thus they are bitter about their relegation to the bottom of the pile. They travel to poor SE Asian countries to take advantage of the huge power differential that exists, largely based on financial advantage, white skin and a foreign passport. They can play out the old colonial master fantasy in Flipsville. The wily Pinays know exactly how to play along. The #MeToo movement and the progression of the status of women in the West over the past 50 years means these loser mongers can only exist on the periphery of society. All that changes when they go to the Philippines or Thailand, where despite their beer bellies, bald heads, wrinkled skin and marshmallow cocks, they are feted like rock stars. Don't think for one minute that the admiration and adulation of these idiots is genuine. Hahahaha. Asian women are masters at manipulation and game playing..And to think that mongers were escaping a sad state of affairs in their homelands. This concludes that they are just running right into a trap set by wily Pinays. Western women bust their balls at home and wily Pinays and Thais fool them in the Philippines and Thailand. Is there any hope at all for mongers? Those wily LBFMs seem to be pushing all the buttons.
With due respect Maybe its you who have lost your mind.
The phills is on lockdown, all are told to stay at home, wear their masks and keep at least 2 meters from other people, yet you are here bragging on your conquests without a care for other peoples lives.
Think Engine driver is absolutely correct some people live, breathe for fucking prostitutes even if it means taking huge risks whether barebacking or having prostitutes over while people are dying in their thousands due to covid 19.Perhaps some mongers cannot control their carnal cravings. No matter what the cost, they need to have their marshmallow cocks whaling away inside a Pinay pussy in the midst of a global pandemic.
Mr Enternational
04-11-20, 04:37
Fit, young, good looking, wealthy, professionally successful mongers with established family relationships usually do not board aircraft bound for the Philippines or Thailand for the sole intention of fucking low class prostitutes. They will be able to get as much sex as they can in the West, either paid or for free, or perhaps even from their wives.You are making a terrible argument that is 100% wrong. Damn near every man that I know is a monger and has been forever. This includes all the men in my family. The people that I have met mongering over the years are normal people from all walks of life. They are not hunchbacks that can not get laid back home.
So if someone lives where there is a beach they can go to anytime, they have no business trying to go on vacation where there are other beaches? If there are bars where a person lives then they have no business going to New Orleans to hit Bourbon Street?
Not everyone's reason for monger traveling is because they are hard up for pussy back home. It seems many mongers travel to fuck women that are different from what they have at home, or exotic if you will. Where I am from I can fuck white chicks and black chicks all day long in the strip clubs for $40 if my only concern was finding a hole for my dick. Americans could go fuck in Nevada where prostitution is legal.
You are making a terrible argument that is 100% wrong. Damn near every man that I know is a monger and has been forever. This includes all the men in my family. The people that I have met mongering over the years are normal people from all walks of life. They are not hunchbacks that can not get laid back home.
......I started mongering after my marriage broke down. I never cheated on my wife of 20 years of happy marriage followed by 15 years of hell.
I started for one reason. After almost 40 years with one woman, I was simply out of practice picking up girls and found that a cash transaction was much easier and overall somewhat cheaper. I could spend a couple hundred on taking a woman out for a nice supper, perhaps some drinks or other entertainment and would only get a thank you handshake after the night. For the same money I could have a working girl overnight, guaranteed multiple pops, BBBJ and a massage thrown in. The woman would be focused on satisfying me, not on getting a free meal and saving her golden pussy for getting something more valuable than what I am willing to give any woman. I was originally on SA back home and got more than a few 18 and 19 year olds this way, girls that I would have been invisible to in real life.
I am educated, personable, fit and have been told that I am considered good looking in a mature distinguished sort of way. I also smell nice and am always nicely dressed. No old gym shorts and ratty t shirts that look and smell like I wore them a couple weeks ago to pump out the septic tank I have been able to bed many regular women at home but it takes a lot more work that I am usually willing to put into it.
There are lots of reasons to monger, not being able to get laid by a normal girl is only one of them, I would say that the only guys that that applies to are pretty obvious that they are mongers where those of us who monger for other reasons can be more difficult to spot.
Now here I practice sort of a semi mongering. I hunt on the dating sites looking for women wanting a relationship, I can usually fuck them on the first date. If not on the second then there will not be a third. I like having a selection of regulars, I generally keep about 5 on the string but am always looking for some fresh talent and will cut one off and replace her when I find something better. The lifespan of a regular is usually about 6 months but I have two that have been coming (and cuming) for 2 years.
I am not adverse to fucking some girl that comes across as a straight escort. What the hell if I am only looking for a bed partner why not give some pesos to a pro instead of giving them to a regular girl and calling it taxi money. I just prefer to maintain the illusion that this is a date and not fucking for money. Also the girls that are looking for a real relationship are easier to get along with. It is just that they will send a couple hundred text messages after their time comes to an end but I simply block their number and any new ones that they get.
Surprisingly I find little difference in performance between the pros and a regular girl. Sometimes the pros have the technique but the regular girls have more enthusiasm. I have the Blow Job Queen as a long time regular, she gives the best I have ever had and will suck all day if I want her to where a pro wants to make me finish quick, swallow, brush her teeth and leave. (which is not all that bad, sometimes that is what I want her to do too.).
You are making a terrible argument that is 100% wrong..I've always railed against the absolute statements often put forward on ISG.
Are all mongers hopeless losers? No, but have I known and seen plenty? Sure.
Are all mongers pure souls just out for some fun? Again not all but some.
I, like most, fall somewhere between the two.
Enjoy. G.
Engine Driver
04-11-20, 05:49
You are making a terrible argument that is 100% wrong. Damn near every man that I know is a monger and has been forever. This includes all the men in my family. The people that I have met mongering over the years are normal people from all walks of life. They are not hunchbacks that can not get laid back home.
So if someone lives where there is a beach they can go to anytime, they have no business trying to go on vacation where there are other beaches? If there are bars where a person lives then they have no business going to New Orleans to hit Bourbon Street?
Not everyone's reason for monger traveling is because they are hard up for pussy back home. It seems many mongers travel to fuck women that are different from what they have at home, or exotic if you will. Where I am from I can fuck white chicks and black chicks all day long in the strip clubs for $40 if my only concern was finding a hole for my dick. Americans could go fuck in Nevada where prostitution is legal.
It would be fair to say those who have devoted their entire lives to pounding Pinay pussy are the ones who have lost their minds. Imagine all that time, effort and money that could have been channeled to more useful pursuits, rather than being wasted on 10 minutes of pleasure with a wily, brown fuck machine.At least this is far more interesting than the banal discussions about whether the Chinese Reaper is going to get septuagenarian mongers still stranded in Manila.
Mr E, I am yet to be convinced by your argument. I think you might have cut class in elementary school on the day when your teacher was covering the concepts of "context" and "analogy" when writing prose.
You are one of the professional mongers who has devoted his entire life to pounding pussy whom I refer to in my post. Imagine all that time, effort and money that could have been channeled to more useful pursuits, rather than being wasted on 10 minutes of pleasure with wily, brown fuck machines. As an American, why else would you be stationed in that shit hole that is Pattaya, in a 9,000 THB / mth apartment, riding around all day and night on your cheap scooter, picking up random 1,000 THB hookers? If you were gainfully employed, how would you find the time to devote so many hours each day to writing reports for ISG? I believe you are just behind Syzgies, so you need to put in a few more hours each week.
If that's what retirement paradise looks like, I sincerely hope the Chinese Reaper from Wuhan gets me right now. LOL.
NapaSlapper
04-11-20, 05:54
You are making a terrible argument that is 100% wrong. Damn near every man that I know is a monger and has been forever. This includes all the men in my family. The people that I have met mongering over the years are normal people from all walks of life. They are not hunchbacks that can not get laid back home.
So if someone lives where there is a beach they can go to anytime, they have no business trying to go on vacation where there are other beaches? If there are bars where a person lives then they have no business going to New Orleans to hit Bourbon Street?
Not everyone's reason for monger traveling is because they are hard up for pussy back home. It seems many mongers travel to fuck women that are different from what they have at home, or exotic if you will. Where I am from I can fuck white chicks and black chicks all day long in the strip clubs for $40 if my only concern was finding a hole for my dick. Americans could go fuck in Nevada where prostitution is legal.Have to fully disagree with your post.
Thinking other mongers are just normal people is because they are like you a monger.
Ask any non monger if travelling to the worlds poorest 3rd world countries to fuck the most desperate of prostitutes is normal and they will tell you they are disgusted at the thought of such behavior.
None of my friends or family members monger, they lead normal lives in their own countries with a wife / girlfriend, kids. House and 1 family holiday per year, I am the exception.
I am lucky that I own a company in the phills so I can get away with my little bit of fun without raising eye brows among friends and family back in the west, when I did live in the west I too had never fucked a prostitute, had only long term committed relationships with western girls and was happy enough.
As far as the claim of I travel away from home because I don't want to fuck western women, well think again almost every country the world over has multiple pinays / Thais working living there, only problem is is they have money and will not give pussy to guys old enough to be her grand daddy whether paid or free, hence the need of mongers to flee to the poor nations to get laid by the most desperate.
Mr Enternational
04-11-20, 08:50
Ask any non monger if travelling to the worlds poorest 3rd world countries to fuck the most desperate of prostitutes is normal and they will tell you they are disgusted at the thought of such behavior.Then ask them about sports and entertainment people going to Miami, Las Vegas, New York up in the VIP or having parties on yachts. Same thing, only the way we do it is cheaper. Women seek out guys they see as having money no matter what their economic level is or what country they are from.
Brazil is a third world country. Justin Beiber went to Rio to Centaurus fuck club. I go to the same fuck clubs in Rio. Were these non mongers just as disgusted with him as they are with me? Because we were fucking the same chicks. Maybe they are more disgusted with him because he is rich and I am middle class?
I don't get it. Are they as disguted with the local guys that fuck the prostitutes? Would they be disgusted if a guy from a poor country saved up and went to a richer country to fuck prostitutes? What if I went to expensive ass Dubai to fuck prostitutes that come from all around the world. What would be the level of disgust then? You went to Dubai to fuck these desperate prostitutes that had to come all the way from their third world countires.
People with less money go to people with more money in order to get money. No matter if the person is trading their typing skills, boxing skills, astronaut skills, picking up garbage skills, or sex skills. I don't get why the person willing to pay for the sex skills garners such disgust.
It is also funny how the poor prostitutes are seen as so desperate. As if she is only doing it because there is a life or death situation. The world has shut down. There should be desperte prostitutes passed out all over the streets now because disgusting customers from first world countries can not reach them. Yet they are not and life is continuing on.
NapaSlapper
04-11-20, 10:52
Then ask them about sports and entertainment people going to Miami, Las Vegas, New York up in the VIP or having parties on yachts. Same thing, only the way we do it is cheaper. Women seek out guys they see as having money no matter what their economic level is or what country they are from.
Brazil is a third world country. Justin Beiber went to Rio to Centaurus fuck club. I go to the same fuck clubs in Rio. Were these non mongers just as disgusted with him as they are with me? Because we were fucking the same chicks. Maybe they are more disgusted with him because he is rich and I am middle class?
I don't get it. Are they as disguted with the local guys that fuck the prostitutes? Would they be disgusted if a guy from a poor country saved up and went to a richer country to fuck prostitutes? What if I went to expensive ass Dubai to fuck prostitutes that come from all around the world. What would be the level of disgust then? You went to Dubai to fuck these desperate prostitutes that had to come all the way from their third world countires.Not sure what your point is Mr E.
Most people who do not fuck prostitutes look down on those that do, full stop, even our own governments look down on mongering, as in many countries get caught mongering in a foreign land and one can be prosecuted on return to his own country, it is what it is same as people who don't shoot up heroin look down on those that do.
As far as girls always look for money in relationships then again I would disagree, my relationships with western women were always expenses split 50/50,and I mean all expenses, a girl that is into one and is in love with one does not look at money.
I think you will find in many modern western relationships the lady goes out to work and earns the money while the male stays at home and looks after the house and kids, know of many western couples that are struggling for money but are happily together for many years.
Lets not mix up fucking prostitutes with having a loving relationship that is based on respect and sharing experiences and expenses.
Chocha Monger
04-11-20, 16:26
It would be fair to say those who have devoted their entire lives to pounding Pinay pussy are the ones who have lost their minds. Imagine all that time, effort and money that could have been channeled to more useful pursuits, rather than being wasted on 10 minutes of pleasure with a wily, brown fuck machine.Hookers can be like heroin for mongers with addictive personalities. They start off visiting Flipsville annually for a fuck and suck. Then they starting visiting every six months to pound Pinay pussy. Six months turn into every three months. Before they know what happened they are scheming how to get their fix of brown pussy monthly. At this point, the mongers with a really bad case of the Pinay pussy jones, just break down and marry a LBFM to take back to the cold sexless north of Europe or the Americas. The most extreme Pinay pussy addicts become expats in Flipsville and drop out of Western civilization completely. They dedicate their remaining years to almost daily BBFSCIP with random LBFMs in Flipsville until wealth, health or both give out. Some are knocked off their perches and kark it trying to live out their twilight years as much younger men. Others end up on Skid Row after those wily LBFMs drain their pension funds and they are deported or rescued by the repatriation division of their embassies. Addiction is not limited to the dope fiend. There are brown pussy fiends too who experience severe withdrawal symptoms when locked out of their favorite knock shop.
Engine Driver
04-27-20, 10:50
It never ceases to amaze me the length a Pinay will go to, to get her hands on unearned wealth. Jesus, scamming, lying and cheating must be in their blood. We've had quite a few low ranking Flip hookers infiltrate their way into hiso here in my country and wreak complete havoc. Here are a couple of examples. Aussie mongers need not read further as you know these cases very well.
Junie Morosi was a Manila hooker who started screwing a federal government minister and just about brought the whole government down 40 years ago. The idiot made her his principal private secretary, which was about 100 grades above her level of competency. I think just about every government minister was lining up for BBBJCIM hahahaha. In those days, LBFMs were not common in RWML, and hot Junie must have got the pulses racing in those staid political circles.
Rose Lacson-Teodoro-Kuan-Hancock-Porteous was a Pinay hooker (and serial divorcee) from Bacolod City. After fucking her way around the world, she finally arrived in Oz, penniless, but with a 3-month working visa. She immediately got a job as maid / cleaner to Lang Hancock, a septuagenarian billionaire iron-ore mining magnate, 39 years her senior. Hahaha. Man, did she hit the jackpot! You can guess the rest of the story and it's far more outrageous, scandalous and shocking than you might think. It was very much a case of "Die fucker, die!" Hahahaha.
Old white men who have never been with an Asian hooker become completely mesmerized by them. They will throw their lives away for BBBJCIM. A former colleague of mine has married post-op lady boy and he's bought him / her to live in RWML. He was married twice before to real women, so coming out now is a little scandalous hahahaha.
Engine Driver
04-29-20, 03:45
There's much discussion going on the other thread on whether a foreigner can marry an upper class Pinay. GE provided a good summary and Nappa confirmed this. Here's my take.
Local girls prefer to marry local boys, regardless of the country. It just makes life easier for everyone. That's how it's always been.
If an educated, wealthy, good looking, youngish foreign man married a Filipina or Thai girl, he would be committing social suicide in Rich White Man Land. Most will not consider it. There is a general belief in my country that all Filipinas are mail order brides and that all Thais are hookers. The thousands of white westerners commonly married to Pinays or Thais are overweight, blue-collar mongers over the age of 55 from a lower socio-economic group, so they do not care about the social stigma attached to being seen with an LBFM. They were never going to be invited to the fashionable cocktail parties anyway. Some also have major social, alcohol or drug issues, rendering them useless in the West. This group is not seen as physically, socially or financially attractive to white women. Jaded with the lack of prospects at home, they readily jump at the start of getting themselves an LBFM. BBBJCIM with swallow is just about the most exciting thing they have ever encountered in their sorry little lives.
I have seen quite a lot of interracial dating / marriage in my country usually involving a young white guy and a young Chinese girl or a young white guy and a young Indian girl. There are heaps of Indian men with white girlfriends, but hardly any Chinese men with white girlfriends. Therefore, the demand for young Chinese girls is very high. Pinays and Thais are not in this mix.
The Pinays married to the blue collar worker are usually poor, uneducated types. They do not work other than screw the fat fucker in his cheap 1,200 square foot home in the outer suburbs so that she can keep sending money to her extended family back in Shitsville.
There are a lot of professional and semi-professional Pinay workers here in my country. They are generally nurses, caregivers or office ladies. Most can migrate here on their own as their skills are in demand. They do not need a white monger to fill out the forms for them. They are more inclined to marry a local white guy if they come here single.
Thai girls on the other hand, have very limited job prospects here as their English skills are just so poor. Thais must have the worst English language capability in the world. I have known a Thai hooker who has been in Oz now for seven years on a student visa. Her vocabulary still only consists of six words. Hello, bye, yes, no, fuck and suck. Hahahahaha. There are only three jobs I have ever seen a Thai woman perform here and they are masseuse, prostitute or waitress.
Engine Driver
05-18-20, 07:42
I advertised for sale a piece of furniture on line last week. A chick called Stella Marie contacted me, showing interest in the item. She haggled and haggled and we finally agreed a price. I gave her my address. Rather a quaint name I thought. She was supposed to call me 30 minutes before arriving so I could get ready. Without any notice, she just appeared one afternoon and texted me outside my house that she had arrived and was sorry about not telling me beforehand. The text had a whole heap of laughing emojis. I should have guessed. I opened the door, and surprise, surprise, there's was a young, hot looking LBFM standing outside. She was wearing gym gear, not the type of clothes you wear when going out to pick up furniture. Super tight short shorts with a nice camel toe showing and a nice, round, peachy ass. She was not wearing a thong underneath, nor any panties. Just commando. She came with her big, burly Lebanese boyfriend, so I could not just brazenly stare at her without getting shot. Hahaha. Within 30 seconds, she practically gave me her life story. After she left, I thought, hmmm, typical LBFM behaviour. Quaint Catholic name, drawn out price haggling, not following instructions (and then laughing about it), super sexy clothes with a highly visible camel toe, incessant chatter with a stranger and wasting no time in getting a foreign cock to speed up the permanent resident process. I'm sure she would have been a good root. Hahaha.
Pinaypounder
05-21-20, 21:57
I have shagged about 300 women in my life. About 70 prostitutes in various countries including cold old Canada.
I have never considered marrying a prostitute but a few have become friends in the Phils and Thailand. In poor countries and here it is a means to an end and I respect them if they are respectable. They EARN their money and I have never looked down on them.
I have used my body to earn just like they have it is a means to an end.
When fucking them I have been respectful and about 5 of 6 encounters were well worth it. I have had a large number of freebies from pros simply because I treat them well and they need a little friendship now and again.
Sometime a pro is a great choice and the better you treat them the better they treat you. I know some men have different views and some treat them poorly this I have learned first hand from friends that were pros. If you treat anyone poorly that is on you and you should not do so. Most of my white friend shave fucked pros almost all of my brown friends have fucked pros so who are we kidding when we act above this. Women are different because quite literally a woman can fuck who they want when they want IF they want.
I will fuck more prostitutes in the future and continue to treat them well and likely marry a Filipina to take care of me as they are very good at that indeed. Treat them well and you could marry a pro as most don't want to stay in that world but some are money addicts like we are pussy addicts if you can't recognize them at least have a prenup.
I will fuck more prostitutes in the future and continue to treat them well and likely marry a Filipina to take care of me as they are very good at that indeed. Treat them well and you could marry a pro as most don't want to stay in that world but some are money addicts like we are pussy addicts if you can't recognize them at least have a prenup.You are having fun playing the field.
Why fuck up a good thing by marrying one? G.
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Why fuck up a good thing by marrying one? G.The pro's are not my normal hunting grounds. I will take one now and then depending on what is available and how hot she is but I have yet gone out and paid a bar fine. Nothing wrong with it and I enjoy reading the FRs of others but not my sport.
I have had many non pro's and regulars start talking about marriage. I make it clear that that is off the table. I would not be adverse to a long term relationship but would want her to know that at a minimum I will be getting happy ending massages and would like the occasional FMF threesome.
I blame it on a bad divorce that has soured me on the whole institution. (Actually my divorce was not that bad as these things go, paid a little too much to get free of any ongoing support but have made it back since.).
With the regulars it is marriage baseball, mention it 3 times and they are out. One of my early regulars was ready to move in and she blew it in one night, she just could not stop asking despite my telling her that no marriage talk was a condition of being with me. (She actually got 5 strikes because she gave me a great BJ after the second strike, HOME RUN LOL).
WestCoast1
05-22-20, 04:51
You are having fun playing the field. Why fuck up a good thing by marrying one? G.Over the years, a number of my friends and acquaintances in Phils have played the scene in the country rather well for a long period of time, then settled down with one pinay to take care of the gent until he passed. That was their specific intent, even in the days of their playing the scene. Usually the have no close family to go home to and live with until the end. That is not my kind of thing, but its respectable if PP can follow the plan to the end. It's either involved marriage, or other financial arrangement with the girl.
I'm sure she would have been a good root. Hahaha.You have her number so you could explore it.
Mr Enternational
05-22-20, 06:37
I blame it on a bad divorce that has soured me on the whole institution.You say that as if your default is that marriage is a positive and it took something negative to sway you away from that default. But why shouldn't a person be neutral on the issue as if they walked into a store to buy some detergent and a salesperson had to SELL them on an item (marriage) they had no intention of buying?
It seems to me that people put the cart before the horse. They already have the idea or intention to marry and they look for someone that is willing to go along for the ride with them. To me it would make more sense to neutrally get to know a person then decide that you want to marry that particular person.
That is why I scratch my head when I am on a dating site and a chick asks me what I am looking for (or the questionaire when I am signing up does the same thing). Well I am just seeing what I can get into or what comes along my way. It is weird to me when chicks say they are looking for friends. Who the hell gets dressed and goes outside searching for someone to be their friend? That is fucking stupid. Friendship is something that develops naturally when you meet people, not something you search for. Marriage should be the same way. You don't fucking actively look for a husband or wife.
I guess it is just how we are raised and the information that we have taken in all of our lives that sway us to the default that to be married is good and it is something we need to seek. I do not "blame" me not wanting to be married on anything because my default is neutral and my personality is of no desire to be married. What possibly could the salesperson tell me to sway me to positive and believing I should want to get married? Nothing that I can think of. It is the same as trying to sell pussy to a punk or dick to a dike. Just not interested.
Friendship is something that develops naturally when you meet people, not something you search for. Marriage should be the same way. You don't fucking actively look for a husband or wife.
I agree it's crazy but there are thousands online specifically looking to marry. A not insignificant number of those are men.
It would take longer to log on than to find a girl online that would get engaged and start planning the marriage the moment a guy stepped off the plane. Again crazy but true.
Enjoy. G.
You say that as if your default is that marriage is a positive and it took something negative to sway you away from that default. But why shouldn't a person be neutral on the issue as if they walked into a store to buy some detergent and a salesperson had to SELL them on an item (marriage) they had no intention of buying?
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I have no position on marriage in general. It is just something I will not do again.
We all know the definition of a wedding ring?
A band of gold with a diamond that when placed on a woman's finger makes her incapable of giving a blow job.
Especially with the ladies here, I want them to be at lease a little nervous that they may lose everything in a minute.
You say that as if your default is that marriage is a positive and it took something negative to sway you away from that default. But why shouldn't a person be neutral on the issue as if they walked into a store to buy some detergent and a salesperson had to SELL them on an item (marriage) they had no intention of buying?
It seems to me that people put the cart before the horse. They already have the idea or intention to marry and they look for someone that is willing to go along for the ride with them. To me it would make more sense to neutrally get to know a person then decide that you want to marry that particular person.
That is why I scratch my head when I am on a dating site and a chick asks me what I am looking for (or the questionaire when I am signing up does the same thing). Well I am just seeing what I can get into or what comes along my way. It is weird to me when chicks say they are looking for friends. Who the hell gets dressed and goes outside searching for someone to be their friend? That is fucking stupid. Friendship is something that develops naturally when you meet people, not something you search for. Marriage should be the same way. You don't fucking actively look for a husband or wife.
I guess it is just how we are raised and the information that we have taken in all of our lives that sway us to the default that to be married is good and it is something we need to seek. I do not "blame" me not wanting to be married on anything because my default is neutral and my personality is of no desire to be married. What possibly could the salesperson tell me to sway me to positive and believing I should want to get married? Nothing that I can think of. It is the same as trying to sell pussy to a punk or dick to a dike. Just not interested.The whole marriage thing seems to me to be a losing proposition for the male. I mean, he is the one that gives up his freedom, at least half of his income, and more than likely all of his mind. For what? A steady piece of ass that usually declines in time? Maybe for companionship but most dogs make better companions than women. Maybe I will change my mind ten years from now when I have been long since retired in the PI but as the wise Mr. E says let any friendship develop naturally. Be careful what you ask for because you might just get it!
The whole marriage thing seems to me to be a losing proposition for the male.Actually getting married is very good for men. We live longer, have less heart attacks, cancer and loneliness. And when we do get sick the morbidity and and life expectancy is far better. Despite all the jokes, we also have more sex than our braggard single friends.
I'd suggest the problem is not GETTING married. Its WHO guys marry.
Of course, if a guy makes the wrong selection and then crystallizes losses by going up against the court system then he is indeed truly fucked over.
Enjoy. G.
WestCoast1
05-23-20, 03:12
It seems to me that people put the cart before the horse. They already have the idea or intention to marry and they look for someone that is willing to go along for the ride with them. To me it would make more sense to neutrally get to know a person then decide that you want to marry that particular person.Most cultures don't have this view. Marriage is considered an ideal, and there are mores that make it almost "not optional". Further to the point, there are actual laws that promote marriage (ie, tax rates are lower for married persons). So important is the marriage contract that incentives are built into the system to push it and keep it.
SNIP Marriage should be the same way. You don't fucking actively look for a husband or wife.I think half of the world's population might disagree. Women the world over are specifically looking for Mister Right, and I don't mean for dating. Ingrained in the back of her mind is marriage.
Personally, I see it academically. I realize that married gents live longer (ala Goffering, the positives). I also realize the deadly financial difficulties of divorce (the negatives). I prefer not to remarry, which probably makes me like lots of guys, but also it makes me out of the societal norm, especially in Phils.
Most cultures don't have this view. Connecting love and romance to marriage has only been a recent and very westernised concept.
Most others take a very pragmatic even businesslike approach. Its more about what makes sense and benefits the individuals and wider family.
An Indian friend once said of parental arranged marriages that the kids don't have the experience and life skills to make such an important decision so it makes far more sense for those older and wiser to make the decision for them.
Add in the ease at which modern couples can marry and divorce it's not surprising that so many breakdown. I'm not suggesting people be locked into oppressive relationships. However, there can be little incentive or inclination to actually endure some hardships or resolve issues.
Cheers. G.
Mr Enternational
05-23-20, 06:56
Connecting love and romance to marriage has only been a recent and very westernised concept. Most others take a very pragmatic even businesslike approach. Its more about what makes sense and benefits the individuals and wider family.In that type of situation I can totally understand it. If I was back in the 1890's and had to go out to work and did not know how to cook or wash my own clothes then sure I could see looking for a wife. But today when men and women are supposed to be so independent and able to provide for self (besides half the women these days can not cook these days anyway) then I can not understand it.
We can also cross streams when someone from our culture has the love and romance concept and we connect with a foreigner that has the old concept of doing it for other benefits of themselves and their families.
Financially with two be being focused on the same financial goals should be more practical to have two people contributing the the costs and investments.
Health wise if it is also an exclusive sexual arrangement zero STI.
WestCoast1
05-23-20, 08:32
Connecting love and romance to marriage has only been a recent and very westernised concept.
Most others take a very pragmatic even businesslike approach. Its more about what makes sense and benefits the individuals and wider family.Agree with what you said there. Apology for not being more clear. I was not discussing the connecting of love and marriage, which is a product of the last hundred (or so) years. I was discussing the concept of marriage inside culture. This is a cornerstone of cultures the world over. Yes, of course half of them fail in the first 5 years. And in different cultures, that rate varies, I'm sure due to different systems (such as the arranged-marriage-by-parent concept). Cultures profess to value marriage over staying single for life, and Philippines is no different.
Actually getting married is very good for men. We live longer, have less heart attacks, cancer and loneliness. And when we do get sick the morbidity and and life expectancy is far better. Despite all the jokes, we also have more sex than our braggard single friends.
I'd suggest the problem is not GETTING married. Its WHO guys marry.
Of course, if a guy makes the wrong selection and then crystallizes losses by going up against the court system then he is indeed truly fucked over.
Enjoy. G.Hi G,
Just living together would, of course, produce the same positive outcomes but much less negative outcomes especially in legal and financial matters. Cheers, buddy.
Hi G,
Just living together would, of course, produce the same positive outcomes but much less negative outcomes especially in legal and financial matters. Cheers, buddy.True but be careful. Nowadays many jurisdictions regard defacto the same as formal marriage so you don't need a Marriage Certificate to lose half your stuff.
Like I said, choose carefully in either situation.
Cheers. G.
True but be careful. Nowadays many jurisdictions regard defacto the same as formal marriage so you don't need a Marriage Certificate to lose half your stuff.Hmmmm, good point. Is there such a thing as a pre nup for a live in?
Hmmmm, good point. Is there such a thing as a pre nup for a live in?Where I live, yes there is.
I have friends that have used them much to the chagrin of their exes. As with anything legal, get good advice and do it properly or don't do it at all.
Enjoy. G.
Hmmmm, good point. Is there such a thing as a pre nup for a live in?Start with an agreement than clearly states there is no agreement and everything is consensual.
Then get a properly prepared agreement in the respective country.
Pinaypounder
05-24-20, 03:04
You are having fun playing the field.
Why fuck up a good thing by marrying one? G.I know that I will never not fuck other women when I can, I have actually had these EXACT discussions with potential mates. I plan to fuck many and to find a partner that understands and supports it. And yes it works both ways.
I have cheated and that is not good and I don't like it. I don't plan to cheat again and I won't marry a woman that won't allow me to fuck around and this will be a clearly written part of my pre nup.
PP.
Hmmmm, good point. Is there such a thing as a pre nup for a live in?Even in the Philippines there are live in pre nups.
You have to watch out because after some period of time you can be considered as married and the default is shared assets. Your prenup can be as simple as saying that you are going to adhere to strict separation of assets in this relationship.
I believe that all it needs is two witnesses to be valid. I would make sure that I could find the witnesses, they would be my lawyer and his associate and I would also go with notarizing it.
Wicked Roger
05-24-20, 14:22
True but be careful. Nowadays many jurisdictions regard defacto the same as formal marriage so you don't need a Marriage Certificate to lose half your stuff.
Like I said, choose carefully in either situation.
Cheers. G.It is 2 years or more in some countries and I agree with G, if she is a long term girlfriend who is savvy enough she could make your life miserable and wallet very empty.
Even in the Philippines there are live in pre nups.
You have to watch out because after some period of time you can be considered as married and the default is shared assets. Your prenup can be as simple as saying that you are going to adhere to strict separation of assets in this relationship.
I believe that all it needs is two witnesses to be valid. I would make sure that I could find the witnesses, they would be my lawyer and his associate and I would also go with notarizing it.Hi KG,
What is the the length of the time period, please, if you know. Regards.
Even in the Philippines there are live in pre nups.
You have to watch out because after some period of time you can be considered as married and the default is shared assets. Your prenup can be as simple as saying that you are going to adhere to strict separation of assets in this relationship.I know two Pinay girls who lived in with guys in the Philippines for 5 to 8 years before ending relationships. Foreigner guys just said goodbye and left back to home country. Interesting because in both cases a house was owned by the girl as required by PH law but originally paid for in cash by the guy. After the split the guys said "sell the house and give me the money". Both girls did exactly that, not keeping even one php of the proceeds for themselves nor did the guys offer any to them.
Nice Guy 99
05-24-20, 16:30
Start with an agreement than clearly states there is no agreement and everything is consensual.
Then get a properly prepared agreement in the respective country.Make sure that the girl has her own independent legal counsel and that this is carefully documented. If she is not 100% fluent in English her lawyer should also speak her first language. Failure to comply with these points can lead to the agreement being considered to be null and void in some jurisdictions.
Make sure that the girl has her own independent legal counsel and that this is carefully documented. If she is not 100% fluent in English her lawyer should also speak her first language. Failure to comply with these points can lead to the agreement being considered to be null and void in some jurisdictions.It is called informed consent which states a common person strictly understands the language, wording. Efore it is signed.
Hi KG,
What is the the length of the time period, please, if you know. Regards.It is Article 147 of the Family Code, It does not state a time period.
Art. 147. When a man and a woman who are capacitated to marry each other, live exclusively with each other as husband and wife without the benefit of marriage or under a void marriage, their wages and salaries shall be owned by them in equal shares and the property acquired by both of them through their work or industry shall be governed by the rules on co-ownership.
In the absence of proof to the contrary, properties acquired while they lived together shall be presumed to have been obtained by their joint efforts, work or industry, and shall be owned by them in equal shares. For purposes of this Article, a party who did not participate in the acquisition by the other party of any property shall be deemed to have contributed jointly in the acquisition thereof if the former's efforts consisted in the care and maintenance of the family and of the household.
It doesn't give a time period. I did some searching and could not find any definitive time period for it to be considered common law.
Anyone know?
Here is a link to an article on prenups. https://www.iafl.com/media/1162/prenuptial_agreements_in_the_philippines.pdf.
It is Article 147 of the Family Code, It does not state a time period.
Art. 147. When a man and a woman who are capacitated to marry each other, live exclusively with each other as husband and wife without the benefit of marriage or under a void marriage, their wages and salaries shall be owned by them in equal shares and the property acquired by both of them through their work or industry shall be governed by the rules on co-ownership.
In the absence of proof to the contrary, properties acquired while they lived together shall be presumed to have been obtained by their joint efforts, work or industry, and shall be owned by them in equal shares. For purposes of this Article, a party who did not participate in the acquisition by the other party of any property shall be deemed to have contributed jointly in the acquisition thereof if the former's efforts consisted in the care and maintenance of the family and of the household..Thank you very much, KG. Forewarned is forearmed.
Expat American
05-25-20, 18:32
I know that I will never not fuck other women when I can, I have actually had these EXACT discussions with potential mates. I plan to fuck many and to find a partner that understands and supports it. And yes it works both ways.
I have cheated and that is not good and I don't like it. I don't plan to cheat again and I won't marry a woman that won't allow me to fuck around and this will be a clearly written part of my pre nup.
PP.Exactly. My GF (Singaporean not Filipino) accepts that I need to play now and again. That involves 3-4 day sex vacations to Philippines or Thailand etc every few months (pre CoVid of course). I also have cheated and it didn't end well. This is much better. I am open about my lifestyle and desires with her and she loves me and accepts me for who I am. And no it doesn't cut both ways. She is devoted to me only.
Chocha Monger
05-25-20, 23:17
True but be careful. Nowadays many jurisdictions regard defacto the same as formal marriage so you don't need a Marriage Certificate to lose half your stuff.
Like I said, choose carefully in either situation.
Cheers. G.BBFSCIP always has a cost, especially when it involves a live-in arrangement. Just as mongers are ruthless in their relentless pursuit of BBFSCIP, Pinays and their family members are even more ruthless in the collection of compensation owed them for BBFSCIP. A live-in situation is not for Cheap Charlies looking for bargain rate BBFSCIP on tap. It could end up costing them more than their dwelling and possessions.
Engine Driver
05-26-20, 07:43
I know two Pinay girls who lived in with guys in the Philippines for 5 to 8 years before ending relationships. Foreigner guys just said goodbye and left back to home country. Interesting because in both cases a house was owned by the girl as required by PH law but originally paid for in cash by the guy. After the split the guys said "sell the house and give me the money". Both girls did exactly that, not keeping even one php of the proceeds for themselves nor did the guys offer any to them.Did you believe what those two LBFMs told you? Does anyone ever believe what a Filipina tells them about money? Picture the situation. An LBFM goes into a bank and wires over $50,000 to her ex-boyfriend who's gone permanently back to the US. I'm sure her family and good-for-nothing relatives would have just let her give up her windfall like that!
Chocha Monger
05-26-20, 23:18
Did you believe what those two LBFMs told you? Does anyone ever believe what a Filipina tells them about money? Picture the situation. An LBFM goes into a bank and wires over $50,000 to her ex-boyfriend who's gone permanently back to the US. I'm sure her family and good-for-nothing relatives would have just let her give up her windfall like that!The very thought of a LBFM wiring $50,000 USD to her ex-boyfriend who returned to the USA permanently after he enjoyed several years of bareback full service cum-in-pussy with her is indeed hilarious. Hahaha! The no good friends and family would never allow her to make such a foolish mistake. The $50,000 will be payment in full for years of BBFSCIP rendered. Those wily LBFMs sure know how to tell the right lies to build up the confidence of their willing victims. Hahaha!
BrainDrain
05-27-20, 03:48
Have been in contact with one of 4 year duration fuck buddies in Manila. I usually cut all ties with the girls since I have returned permanently to my country but this one is a genuine sweetie. She has a professional job in Makati.
Some time last year she got married to a rather large (let's say obese) Australian gent. He's already divorced from a previous marriage. It appears he travelled to Manila a few times and met her. He married her last year and was expecting her to move to his shit town and be his maid. Well she never hoped on a plane, having never talked about moving here, she has a good career there. Philippines seems to be the country of these long distance marriages where mum, dad or both are OFW, kids being brought up by the grandparents back in the province. It doesn't sound like she has done anything wrong, she's just focused on her life and happy to have a long distance partner. He contributes zero money to her or her kids.
The Aussie guy has now just discovered that his Philippines marriage is recognised in Australia as per the Marriage Act which recognises all marriages regardless of country, doesn't need to be 'registered' in Australia to be valid here.
It seems the way out if for this guy is to go through the Ph annulment process. The girl is not looking for any settlement money although the guy should pay for being a stupid dick.
Anyone have an direct experience with the annulment process?
I also had another girl who was also married to a USA gent. In the provincial marriage process he seemed to forget that he was also married to another Filipina. So two marriages in Ph. In this case the Filipina was able to apply to have the marriage deregistered as it was not valid in the fist place.
It seems that many men forget that laws do reach across borders.
BD.
The $50,000 will be payment in full for years of BBFSCIP rendered.The debt is never fully paid. Any LBFM smart enough to keep the $50 k (plus any progress payments made over the previous years) is certainly smart enough to keep Jonny on the hook for future income as and when he tires of white chicks and returns for a revisit.
Enjoy. G.
Mr Enternational
05-27-20, 07:11
Did you believe what those two LBFMs told you? Does anyone ever believe what a Filipina tells them about money? Picture the situation. An LBFM goes into a bank and wires over $50,000 to her ex-boyfriend who's gone permanently back to the US. I'm sure her family and good-for-nothing relatives would have just let her give up her windfall like that!Dude, these were $10,000 houses, so of course they did not wire $50,000.
Dude, these were $10,000 houses, so of course they did not wire $50,000.10 k USD is 500,000 p so lets say they got fucked 5 times a week for 2 years that is 500 fuckings or 1000 per.
Good rate, especially considering that he lived rent free for 2 years.
Hell if she was a good cook and good at shopping the guy could have given her the house and still lived cheaper than otherwise might have been the case and essentially fucked for free.
I know that he got the money back and I have no idea how long they were together or how often they fucked or what else was involved financially but my point is that you have to consider everything in settling with the girl.
Engine Driver
05-27-20, 10:54
Dude, these were $10,000 houses, so of course they did not wire $50,000.They did not wire $10,000 either. Most LBFMs who socialise with mongers have never set foot in a bank before. The only financial institution they have dealt with is the local Western Union shop to pick up their donations from horny mongers in return for a cam show.
The debt is never fully paid. Any LBFM smart enough to keep the $50 k (plus any progress payments made over the previous years) is certainly smart enough to keep Jonny on the hook for future income as and when he tires of white chicks and returns for a revisit.
Enjoy. G.Yes, I once loaned a Filipina $100 for school because she pleaded, begged and promised to pay it back. After about a year and numerous reminders she paid me back $80 complaining the transfer fee and exchange rate. Never again. Sad thing is I never even got any pussy from her. She had a nice rack, too. Cheers.
Yes, I once loaned a Filipina $100 for school because she pleaded, begged and promised to pay it back. After about a year and numerous reminders she paid me back $80 complaining the transfer fee and exchange rate. Never again. Sad thing is I never even got any pussy from her. She had a nice rack, too. Cheers.Haha, what a surprise that you fell for a nice rack. We all do.
I have come to learn that when a filfipina says 'borrow' it simply is a polite way of saying give. We western folk assume that borrow is a two way deal. For a filipina it is a one way deal.
I did have one girl in Manila who was lovely, smart, studying etc etc. She needed P500,000 desperately in order to complete a family home. The land and house so far had been paid for by her ex-BF now back in Korea. She offered that I would have security on the house, she would sign a contract etc etc.
The part of the deal that she could never understand was that a) as a first year grad it would be many years before she had surplus income to repay a debt and b) I had zero chance of enforcing any of the security.
PP.
Soapy Smith
05-28-20, 01:20
I have come to learn that when a filfipina says 'borrow' it simply is a polite way of saying give. We western folk assume that borrow is a two way deal. For a filipina it is a one way deal.This has been my experience as well. Locally negotiated 5/6 loans, on the other hand, seem to be taken more seriously. (Although my assumption could be mistaken.) A number of years ago I took a girl out of LA Cafe to my room at Rothman. I think we had negotiated 1500 php for long time. After the first deed, she told me she needed to go to Cubao to retrieve a cellphone that a neighbor held as collateral in a 5/6 loan. (repay at ratio of 6 to 5 for the amount borrowed, apparently under a deadline, which is why she needed to go in the middle of the night.) She asked me for 1000 as an advance, promising that she would return. Reasoning that I would have paid 1000 for a short-time one time bonk, I gave her the 1000 and assumed she wouldn't return. She left a little after midnight.
About 3 am I got a call from the doorman that Lisa was at his desk and requested permission to go up to my room. A few minutes later she crawled back into bed and screwed me again in the morning. She had traveled by jeepney from Malate to Cubao during the middle of the night. Obviously the neighbor's possession of the phone leveraged the deadline repayment, and the remaining 500 from me leveraged her return. But I also know of numerous 5/6 loans in communities that are negotiated without collateral and usually get repaid. So why are these local 5/6 deals understood as loans, whereas borrowing from the Western boyfriend is understood as a gift?
Does the pressure of community knowledge of the terms of the loan make the difference? Is there a community or cultural acceptance of the 5/6 loan structure? Or maybe it's the assumption that the foreigner always pays. WC told an interesting story a couple years ago in which a Cebu girlfriend invited him to meet with friends at a restaurant, and he ended up with the tab because an assertive Filipina insisted that the foreigner always pays. But I know that does not always hold. I have been out with well-to-do Filipinos who insisted on paying for me and others. CM has an answer: all Filipinas and their extended families are liars and leeches. But clearly he has been hurt by a Filipina he cared about--or perhaps he's just committed to the role of ISG troll for a country he has never visited.
I suspect the real answer is more nuanced than any of these answers.
This has been my experience as well. Locally negotiated 5/6 loans, on the other hand, seem to be taken more seriously. (Although my assumption could be mistaken.).....When we go out with my regular philipino friends, former coworkers, we usually either roughly split the tab, or one of us, sometimes me and sometimes them, pay as our shout. I was the boss so I usually pay for more than my fair share but even with the guys at home, if I was their boss I buy more than my share, just my way of saying thanks for their help and support. (and sometimes I used my expense account too LOL).
Generally it works out about the same going out for beers with the guys at home. No issues with the foreigner paying just regular guys out having some beers and wings and telling lies about past jobs we have worked on.
The 5/6 loans get repaid because that is the expectation, phones are held as collateral, no pay no get phone back and no get another loan. The no more loans may also apply to family members and I suppose if the collateral does not fully cover the loan then the locals may just send a 'collection agency' to get the money or other goods in payment or at least to set an example.
Foreigners on the other hand are just seen as stupid and gullible. We are fair play for their scams, the locals appear to have no shame in scamming a dumb foreigner out of his money. We really have no recourse, can we go to the police saying I sent this girl money to come and fuck me and she didn't show up? Do we have the necessary connections to find them? All we really know about them is their names which can be common names, their phone numbers which can be replaced for 40 p or where they SAY they live.
We just have to be smart, no sending money to a girl you have not met yet, unless you are knowingly taking a chance and are prepared to lose it, no shopping before you get fucked, etc.
I will send load, generally 50 p to start so we can chat. Some of these girls are so desperate for money that the 50 p load to chat is beyond them. To go much beyond this requires good chats, cam shows.
In normal times I will buy airline tickets sometimes, why pay to bring a girl half way across the country when there are just as good ones next door? I will send a Grab to pick her up, I just about never send cash to a girl before the first meet and we develop some relationship.
Since I got really strict on my criteria on sending money I actually have had some show up. Prior to that when I was stupid and sent 1000 or 2000 when asked I always lost. If I have talked a while, established a long distance relationship I sometimes take a chance but still do no better than about 50/50. I see the loss as part of the cost of doing business, one of the the best fuck and suck I had was on a girl I took a chance on and helped her before we met.
Why do we think we are so much smarter than them, we come here with wallets full of cash and give it away for nothing. Sometimes we stay home with wallets full of cash and send it by western Union or other remittance service. Who is the dumb one?
Does the pressure of community knowledge of the terms of the loan make the difference? Is there a community or cultural acceptance of the 5/6 loan structure? Or maybe it's the assumption that the foreigner always pays.In my experience because of the distrust in the legal system ie there is no small claims dispute resolution process. So their reputation with relative and friends is what matters.
It's the same when hiring employees. It's fast to learn that the qualification documents mean nothing and you rely on non-family references.
PP.
Why do we think we are so much smarter than them, we come here with wallets full of cash and give it away for nothing. Sometimes we stay home with wallets full of cash and send it by western Union or other remittance service. Who is the dumb one?It is easily justified by the filipino mind. God has sent this rich foreigner to me for a purpose. God must have wanted me (and my family) to enjoy the fruits from my prayers which have finally been answered. This new BF is God's gift for all of my life suffering.
Dude, these were $10,000 houses, so of course they did not wire $50,000.5 to 1 seems an acceptable stupidity mark up.
I once fucked a tatted up girl in AC. After I commented that one looked good and asked how much it cost her, she openly admitted that her BF paid 10 k for it even though it only cost her 2 k.
Plenty of Poriners would regard 50 k as cheap. Look at the number of justifications here comparing Pina Pussy to what it would cost 'back home'. 😁.
Enjoy. G.
there is no small claims dispute resolution process. There is.
I have successfully challenged the imposition of the credit card surcharge on a card used in Boracay.
The owner repaid me the surcharge plus he was forced to pay a fine levied by the Department of Trade & Industry.
I also reported a coffee shop that displayed prices on the board then levied me the tax as an additional charge.
Same thing. DTI asked the coffee shop to respond to my claim as the price displayed in menus includes the tax.
They admitted fault and changed their charging mode.
These are trivial examples but since I live in PH I figure I should call out these irregularities when I can.
All it took was the completion of an on-line form and submission to DTI.
WestCoast1
05-28-20, 09:23
In my experience because of the distrust in the legal system ie there is no small claims dispute resolution process. So their reputation with relative and friends is what matters.
There is. I have successfully challenged the imposition of the credit card surcharge on a card used in Boracay. The owner repaid me the surcharge plus he was forced to pay a fine levied by the Department of Trade & Industry. SNIP All it took was the completion of an on-line form and submission to DTI.I'm with RK. There is literally a Claims Court system in every city I've needed one. For a dispute with a local, you contact the Brgy office (first step usually), then the Claims Court after, if needed. Admittedly, the procedures used by both can be boring and time-consuming. I was told a few weeks ago at a Brgy office that their procedures have changed in the last few months, the Brgy are now having only a short meeting with persons who have a dispute about money. The Brgy then offers an action plan for the aggrieved person to get his money back. Both parties must sign the plan; if either party balks at the plan, it is referred to the city's Claims Court.
There is often a feeling among foreigners (in every country) that the 'system' is rigged against you. I have heard multiple times (here and elsewhere) that if you complain to the police (or other) in Phils, your complaint will fall on deaf ears. I strongly disagree. Have never had a police official not care or shoo me away, have never had Brgy officials not investigate a dispute and listen to both sides. In addition, have never had a Brgy or PNP complaint not work in my favor. Please, you will need some kind of documentation to back up your claim (its the first thing they ask for).
Glad RK found the correct Department to complain to.
Engine Driver
05-28-20, 12:26
CM has an answer: all Filipinas and their extended families are liars and leeches. But clearly he has been hurt by a Filipina he cared about--or perhaps he's just committed to the role of ISG troll for a country he has never visited.
I suspect the real answer is more nuanced than any of these answers.There are lots of articles on the web on micro financing for LBFMs. Your article was very interesting, until you had to engage in unnecessary mudslinging right at the end! Hahaha. Professorial types like yourself and GE should elevate themselves. Be like Michelle Obama. "When they go low, we go high". Hahaha. Leave the barbs to the working class plebs like me.
Poor CM is just minding his own business in lockdown in Detroit. Stuck in his mom's basement, with nothing to do all day except toast marshmallows (the confectionary, not the wiener), watching FuckySucky.com and learning about the Philippines on the internet.
Engine Driver
05-28-20, 12:37
It is easily justified by the filipino mind. God has sent this rich foreigner to me for a purpose. God must have wanted me (and my family) to enjoy the fruits from my prayers which have finally been answered. This new BF is God's gift for all of my life suffering.There's also the view that:
1. Money grows on trees in Rich White Man Land.
2. All foreigners are rich and stupid.
3. Ripping off a foreigner is a victimless crime because of Points 1 and 2 above.
4. A foreigner cannot and will not complain because it's not his country.
In many Asian countries, the oldest person, the richest person or the one with the highest social rank pays. A white monger in the Philippines meets all three criteria (especially the first one).
It is easily justified by the filipino mind. God has sent this rich foreigner to me for a purpose. God must have wanted me (and my family) to enjoy the fruits from my prayers which have finally been answered. This new BF is God's gift for all of my life suffering.Many Chicks I've never met and chatting now are asking for money to be sent to them. I ask "did you get your government money" of course they have no reason to be honest so Answer is always "NO, too much cruption here". I don't believe that none got anything, maybe some, but not all. The girls are hoping the gullible, God fearing, porenor will pity me and bless me by dropping some pesos in my collection plate. Not going to happen from me except to a couple of known specials. But many guys must be sending based on hearing rumor that the money transfer offices have lines of girls outside the door waiting to receive their blessings.
LovinFilipinas
05-29-20, 14:07
Greetings to all,
I have been chatting with some Filipinas and I am starting to think that living in Philippines must be like living in pussyfooted heaven.
I know the coronavirus impact is huge. Many lovely girls seem very desperate even for food. I'm sure some are scamming but I know they aren't out there buying clothes or perfume. And they are t asking for very much.
Is poverty that bad?
Where are all the men to take care of these beautiful women?
Seriously I think if I lived in Philippines I could fuck every day a new beautiful girl.
If you live there now— you are lucky.
Soapy Smith
05-29-20, 21:25
There's also the view that:
1. Money grows on trees in Rich White Man Land.
2. All foreigners are rich and stupid.
3. Ripping off a foreigner is a victimless crime because of Points 1 and 2 above.
4. A foreigner cannot and will not complain because it's not his country.
Admittedly, you don't tell us whose view this is, but an obvious inference would be that opportunistic Filipinos believe these things. Could you give us evidence of a Filipino or Filipina who holds all four of these opinions? Seeing these four elements knitted together as a coherent whole, they sound to me more like attributions that you projected onto Filipinos.
I agree that I shouldn't have stooped to slinging criticism at CM. I had been away from the forum for more than a month and had just read some of his sweeping generalizations in the AC thread about Filipina lying and leeching. I confess, he hooked me. I suspect he will be pleased to read this confession. RK advised me several year ago to put him on ignore. I tried that, but then his posts were consistently being quoted by you and others, so I couldn't get away from them. One of many moments of weakness on my part.
By the same token, it appears I hooked you. And why, in the same vein, do you drag GE into this? I assume he's in Davao minding his own business and knows enough not to join this conversation.
You a pleb? I don't think so. Didn't you post some stuff a few months ago to the effect that you were a successful businessman who could afford alternatives to the cut-rate p4 ps that most cheap Charlies pursue?
All it took was the completion of an on-line form and submission to DTI.Thanks RK & WC I didn't realise it would be so simple.
Wicked Roger
05-29-20, 23:39
Could you give us evidence of a Filipino or Filipina who holds all four of these opinions? Seeing these four elements knitted together as a coherent whole, they sound to me more like attributions that you projected onto Filipinos. Soapy – a good observation. I doubt ED has been to the Philippines or if he has was scammed badly or has been the victim of a large online scam himself from pinays. So much so he now calls the country 'Flipsville' and 'Shitsville' (see earlier posts for support of this statement.
This I wonder why he posts on the Philippine board when he hates the country so much and feeds other trolls, is basically disrespectful to most (apart from fellow haters). And he never posts a photo in PG been if he says he has been there.
By the same token, it appears I hooked you. And why, in the same vein, do you drag GE into this? I assume he's in Davao minding his own business and knows enough not to join this conversation.
You a pleb? I don't think so. Didn't you post some stuff a few months ago to the effect that you were a successful businessman who could afford alternatives to the cut-rate p4 ps that most cheap Charlies pursue?We are all somewhere trying to mind our own business. I chat privately with some from this board, we bemoan the fact that trolls as you put them just increase the bile content (not just the Philippines thread BTW).
Is successful and is not a cheapo why come to the Philippines and chase exactly what he says he hates?
But generally, we read and ignore unless something really needs to be said. I have some who ignore me, and I don't care but as you said sometimes my quotes pop up LOL.
Greetings to all,
I have been chatting with some Filipinas and I am starting to think that living in Philippines must be like living in pussyfooted heaven.
...
Is poverty that bad?
Where are all the men to take care of these beautiful women?
Seriously I think if I lived in Philippines I could fuck every day a new beautiful girl.
....Welcome to the board.
Poverty can be very bad here. It is not a poor country but one with a lot of poor people in it. There is huge wealth inequality. You will see exotic cars on the streets in Makati and in the provinces all you will see is trikes and bikes on their last legs.
You will find a wide range of girls here, while we make it sound like every one will drop her panties for any foreigner with 1000 p that is not the case. However there are lots who are looking for a rich foreigner so you will not be disappointed if you look in the right places in the right manner.
There are over 100 million people here, they cover a wide range of education, wealth, and outlooks. There are some here who post here and have sampled only a small part of the possibilities here but make long posts that their limited view is the only view of life and possible experiences here. Don't believe them, this is a very arrived country with lots of regional differences in the people.
Learn about the country and its culture, read a wide variety of posts, there are forums that are only dedicated to the expat life, not the expat mongering one, read these to see a totally different view of life here.
IMFITP.
Admittedly, you don't tell us whose view this is, but an obvious inference would be that opportunistic Filipinos believe these things. Could you give us evidence of a Filipino or Filipina who holds all four of these opinions? Seeing these four elements knitted together as a coherent whole, they sound to me more like attributions that you projected onto Filipinos.
I agree that I shouldn't have stooped to slinging criticism at CM. I had been away from the forum for more than a month and had just read some of his sweeping generalizations in the AC thread about Filipina lying and leeching. I confess, he hooked me. I suspect he will be pleased to read this confession. RK advised me several year ago to put him on ignore. I tried that, but then his posts were consistently being quoted by you and others, so I couldn't get away from them. One of many moments of weakness on my part.
By the same token, it appears I hooked you. And why, in the same vein, do you drag GE into this? I assume he's in Davao minding his own business and knows enough not to join this conversation.
You a pleb? I don't think so. Didn't you post some stuff a few months ago to the effect that you were a successful businessman who could afford alternatives to the cut-rate p4 ps that most cheap Charlies pursue?Trainwreck's train went off the track right after he drank the kool aid from guess who?
Chocha Monger
05-30-20, 18:15
There are lots of articles on the web on micro financing for LBFMs. Your article was very interesting, until you had to engage in unnecessary mudslinging right at the end! Hahaha. Professorial types like yourself and GE should elevate themselves. Be like Michelle Obama. "When they go low, we go high". Hahaha. Leave the barbs to the working class plebs like me.
Poor CM is just minding his own business in lockdown in Detroit. Stuck in his mom's basement, with nothing to do all day except toast marshmallows (the confectionary, not the wiener), watching FuckySucky.com and learning about the Philippines on the internet.Engine Driver, as a quoted source in that world-class journalist rag, The Cranbourne Leader, surely you must understand that with fame and fans comes some degree of mudslinging from the disaffected. The mudslingers are nothing more than raving but misguided fans who read every one of our masterpieces and repeatedly fall into our trap in spite of their best efforts.
Even The Leader resorted to a bit of mudslinging of sorts when it referred to mongers as grubby sex pests in search of a sex fix. Hence, I say, let the lads have their fun in the mud. It is nothing more than a manifestation of their frustration. After spending their entire lives in the ruthless relentless pursuit of bareback full service cum-in-pussy, they find their sole source of happiness frustrated due to a global pandemic. One should expect that they would blindly lash out in their grief. Many have died without using their tickets to Flipsville purchased in lusty anticipation of sex travel filled with cheap BBFSCIP. Others know that their time is short and they will never live long enough to see the end of the pandemic and return to Flipsville for one last BBFSCIP with their wily LBFMs. It is a sad state of affairs really.
LovinFilipinas
05-30-20, 22:30
Welcome to the board.
Poverty can be very bad here. It is not a poor country but one with a lot of poor people in it. There is huge wealth inequality. You will see exotic cars on the streets in Makati and in the provinces all you will see is trikes and bikes on their last legs.
You will find a wide range of girls here, while we make it sound like every one will drop her panties for any foreigner with 1000 p that is not the case. However there are lots who are looking for a rich foreigner so you will not be disappointed if you look in the right places in the right manner.
There are over 100 million people here, they cover a wide range of education, wealth, and outlooks. There are some here who post here and have sampled only a small part of the possibilities here but make long posts that their limited view is the only view of life and possible experiences here. Don't believe them, this is a very arrived country with lots of regional differences in the people..I will research more and probably visit this summer. Sadly these LBFMs would quickly exhaust my fuck capabilities. Wish I knew of Philippines when I was in my 20's or 30's LOL.
In the meantime videochat sex is readily available with sweet pinays who appear to be incredibly loyal and sweet. I have met some for whom it's business but I've met more where they do "seem to" want a connection and relationship.
Finally, whether it is a ploy or not, many need food. This is no joke.
I'm not a clueless newb either, I never pay in advance but I do pay for good service and making me feel good.
Thanks again.
Engine Driver
05-31-20, 10:27
Admittedly, you don't tell us whose view this is, but an obvious inference would be that opportunistic Filipinos believe these things. Could you give us evidence of a Filipino or Filipina who holds all four of these opinions? Seeing these four elements knitted together as a coherent whole, they sound to me more like attributions that you projected onto Filipinos.
I agree that I shouldn't have stooped to slinging criticism at CM. I had been away from the forum for more than a month and had just read some of his sweeping generalizations in the AC thread about Filipina lying and leeching. I confess, he hooked me. I suspect he will be pleased to read this confession. RK advised me several year ago to put him on ignore. I tried that, but then his posts were consistently being quoted by you and others, so I couldn't get away from them. One of many moments of weakness on my part.
By the same token, it appears I hooked you. And why, in the same vein, do you drag GE into this? I assume he's in Davao minding his own business and knows enough not to join this conversation.
You a pleb? I don't think so. Didn't you post some stuff a few months ago to the effect that you were a successful businessman who could afford alternatives to the cut-rate p4 ps that most cheap Charlies pursue?Soapy, lighten up dear chap. It's called cheap entertainment! Controversy, good natured banter and amusing repartee sells subscriptions and increases ad revenue. Instead of deploying the usual ad hominem routine and rather predictable and tiresome statements that we somehow "had a bad experience with Pinays" or that we have never been to the Philippines, you and the Gang of Eight should impress us with your acerbic wit for a change. There seems to be no shortage of intellect in that fine group.
Engine Driver
05-31-20, 11:56
Engine Driver, as a quoted source in that world-class journalist rag, The Cranbourne Leader, surely you must understand that with fame and fans comes some degree of mudslinging from the disaffected. The mudslingers are nothing more than raving but misguided fans who read every one of our masterpieces and repeatedly fall into our trap in spite of their best efforts.
Even The Leader resorted to a bit of mudslinging of sorts when it referred to mongers as grubby sex pests in search of a sex fix. Hence, I say, let the lads have their fun in the mud. It is nothing more than a manifestation of their frustration. After spending their entire lives in the ruthless relentless pursuit of bareback full service cum-in-pussy, they find their sole source of happiness frustrated due to a global pandemic. One should expect that they would blindly lash out in their grief. Many have died without using their tickets to Flipsville purchased in lusty anticipation of sex travel filled with cheap BBFSCIP. Others know that their time is short and they will never live long enough to see the end of the pandemic and return to Flipsville for one last BBFSCIP with their wily LBFMs. It is a sad state of affairs really.While the vocal minority might find our contributions irritating as it is so close to the truth, the silent majority seem to enjoy reading our posts. This is evidenced by us getting cards and letters from people we don't even know. We're still waiting for those offers over the phone though. Hahaha.
No monger wants to be told he is an obese, ageing sex pervert who clandestinely travels several times a year to take advantage of LBFMs in the Philippines. The estranged family just aren't buying the stories of deep sea diving or charity work for the Catholic church anymore. The only "missionary work" being done is on a squeaky bed on Fields Avenue where a 280 lb white gorilla is crushing a 80 lb brown waif. Hahahaha. The relentless pursuit of BBFSCIP has taken over their lives. They find it even more annoying when we remind them that they are leveraging their wrinkled white skin, their coveted passport from RWML and the obvious economic / power imbalance to take advantage of poor, illiterate nincompoops. The fact that some of these members carry a medical kit bag full of "therapeutic devices" to further degrade their young victims, or bottles of cheap tequila to bribe their clueless fathers is also quite amusing. I am still waiting for a monger to admit that he packs a sybian machine as carry one luggage so that he can watch his favourite LBFM ride and then squirt in his mouth! Hahaha. When we then remind the board of the breathtaking hypocrisy of NGO do-gooders preying on the very girls they have been sent to save, there are howls of protest. The cycle of ad hominem. Accusations of jealousy, claims we are bitter because of being scammed or that we have never been to Shitsville then starts. Hahaha. Nothing can be further from the truth. Hahahaha.
Yes, I have been quoted in that fine newspaper, The Cranbourne Leader (TCL). Life can only now be split in two distinct phases. Pre TCL and post TCL. Hahaha. Considering it's part of the News Limited stable and owned by Rupert Murdoch, it would be fair to say it is a "world-class journalistic rag". The acclaimed investigative reporter Suzan Delibasic called me a grubby, illegal brothel user. Hahahaha.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1046-Melbourne&p=2452559#post2452559.
https://twitter.com/suzandelibasic?lang=en
AussieGaigin
06-01-20, 00:04
While the vocal minority might find our contributions irritating as it is so close to the truth, the silent majority seem to enjoy reading our posts. This is evidenced by us getting cards and letters from people we don't even know. We're still waiting for those offers over the phone though. Hahaha.
Yes, I have been quoted in that fine newspaper, The Cranbourne Leader (TCL). Life can only now be split in two distinct phases. Pre TCL and post TCL. Hahaha. Considering it's part of the News Limited stable and owned by Rupert Murdoch, it would be fair to say it is a "world-class journalistic rag". The acclaimed investigative reporter Suzan Delibasic called me a grubby, illegal brothel user. Hahahaha.
I hope your beloved TCL is not one of those publications that Rupert has decided is no longer worth being thrown onto the mud in your garden once per week. Sadly we have lost most of ours in Sydney.
I will research more and probably visit this summer. Sadly these LBFMs would quickly exhaust my fuck capabilities. Wish I knew of Philippines when I was in my 20's or 30's LOL.
.....I would not bet the farm on being able to be able to come here this summer. Some of the local commentary is that we may not have open borders to foreigners until 2021. If the borders open sooner there may be mandatory 14 day quarantine, at your cost in a government approved hotel on arrival. This being the Philippines you may be able to hire a "quarantine assistant" to come "assist" you during this time.
It is not 100% clear when travel internally in the Philippines will be allowed. I have seen news articles that are saying that intercity travel in Metro Manila is only for work or essential reasons. No word on when the inter island travel will open. There is one or two flights scheduled for today between Manila and Cebu, normally lots and lots of flights, each airline PAL, Cebu, Air Asia would have 10 or more.
On the other hand the bureau of tourism is saying that the tourist places will have to rely on domestic tourists for the short to intermediate term. I am thinking July before recreational travel will become possible.
I am in Cebu province and my landlords wife has been stuck in Negros, only a few kms between the two islands and she cannot come back since mid March. If a local cannot get past the travel regulations, a foreigner would be stuck for a while before being able to move freely.
Of course a second wave would put us back to square one in quarantine terms.
Mr Enternational
06-01-20, 03:18
In the meantime videochat sex is readily available with sweet pinays who appear to be incredibly loyal and sweet.LOL. I see what you did there!
I would not bet the farm on being able to be able to come here this summer. Some of the local commentary is that we may not have open borders to foreigners until 2021.Arriving is the least of the problems. Are any countries even letting their citizens depart and return yet?
G.
Pinaypounder
06-02-20, 07:32
Greetings to all,
I have been chatting with some Filipinas and I am starting to think that living in Philippines must be like living in pussyfooted heaven.
I know the coronavirus impact is huge. Many lovely girls seem very desperate even for food. I'm sure some are scamming but I know they aren't out there buying clothes or perfume. And they are t asking for very much.
Is poverty that bad?
Where are all the men to take care of these beautiful women?
Seriously I think if I lived in Philippines I could fuck every day a new beautiful girl.
If you live there now you are lucky.In the Phils there are millions living in extreme poverty, landing in manila and taking a taxi to your hotel will open your eyes big time.
The girls you are chatting with are not that poor, they are not starving, they have access to a smartphone, they an pay for the internet so buyer beware on this. You will be scammed live and learn from it and when you get there make sure to give some money to the actually hungry. Not just the LBFM.
PP.
PedroMorales
06-02-20, 08:50
Arriving is the least of the problems. Are any countries even letting their citizens depart and return yet?
G.STIs should be lower as they won't be getting bonked until we return. And the trike drivers are regularly tested.
BrainDrain
06-02-20, 11:45
Arriving is the least of the problems. Are any countries even letting their citizens depart and return yet?
G.A clean country is not going to risk open travel with Ph for the benefit of mongers and the Ph tourism industry. Reality is we have to learn how to work our 'new normal' back in our home bases.
BD.
Chocha Monger
06-02-20, 23:17
Arriving is the least of the problems. Are any countries even letting their citizens depart and return yet?
G.Quarantine requirements and travel restrictions between countries will make sex travel to Flipsville in the relentless pursuit of BBFSCIP with LBFMs very difficult and even impossible for most mongers. Time for mongers to give up waiting for a miracle to open up easy access to Bareback Cum-in-Pussy Paradise in Flipsville. They will be better off trying to find some white girls in RWML willing to provide BBFSCIP to the aged.
Do not worry about the LBFMs. They have more than enough fit trike drivers with stout legs and strong backs to take up the slack providing BBFSCIP up to 12 times per day. Mongers will find that hardworking trike drivers impregnated many of their favorite LBFMs during their exile from Flipsville. They will put those wire transfers to good use raising new families thanks to their absent sponsors.
Arriving is the least of the problems. Are any countries even letting their citizens depart and return yet?
G.Canadians can always depart and return, just not sure if any country will accept you or how many p[lanes are flying now.
Time for mongers to give up waiting for a miracle to open up easy access to Bareback Cum-in-Pussy Paradise in Flipsville. They will be better off trying to find some white girls in RWML willing to provide BBFSCIP to the aged.I think I just threw up a little.
G.
Chocha Monger
06-03-20, 22:36
I think I just threw up a little.
G.Oh come on! A freshly waxed white pussy with gaping pink labia is not that bad. Of course, you will have to forget about BBFSCIP and BBBJCIM with swallow, which is the standard with LBFMs in Flipsville. In RWML, you will become accustomed to Covered Full Service Cum-in-Condom (CFSCIC) and Covered Blowjob without Completion (CBJWOC). The alternative is pulling yourself to reruns of Trike Patrol and gumming up the remote.
PedroMorales
06-04-20, 07:59
Oh come on! A freshly waxed white pussy with gaping pink labia is not that bad. Of course, you will have to forget about BBFSCIP and BBBJCIM with swallow, which is the standard with LBFMs in Flipsville. In RWML, you will become accustomed to Covered Full Service Cum-in-Condom (CFSCIC) and Covered Blowjob without Completion (CBJWOC). The alternative is pulling yourself to reruns of Trike Patrol and gumming up the remote.You don't think the Phils will be a rerun of the Burger King / Big Mac / Ikea openings with lines of aged win lovers being saluted by cheering trike drivers as they present their beloveds with freshly manicured (or never manicured marshmallows? Will it be more a NYNY riot scene as hordes of horny mongers make off with boxes of LBFMs as helpless trike drivers watch as their property disappears?
Engine Driver
06-08-20, 10:19
Oh come on! A freshly waxed white pussy with gaping pink labia is not that bad. Of course, you will have to forget about BBFSCIP and BBBJCIM with swallow, which is the standard with LBFMs in Flipsville. In RWML, you will become accustomed to Covered Full Service Cum-in-Condom (CFSCIC) and Covered Blowjob without Completion (CBJWOC). The alternative is pulling yourself to reruns of Trike Patrol and gumming up the remote.In RWML, when a white Caucasian hooker decides to deliver good service, she will leave all LBFMs for dead.
What a mess it must be in many Filipino households in Ph. I only hear from 3 Filipinas. Since the onset of covid.
One girl has managed to get pregnant and beaten up by the pinoy BF.
Another has had the foreigner husband file for annulment as he realises he won't be back in his lifetime and.
A third is living on a promise of a job in Canada.
Certainly the emotional cracks are appearing.
PP.
In RWML, when a white Caucasian hooker decides to deliver good service, she will leave all LBFMs for dead.I disagree, a good fuck is a good fuck just as a bad one is bad.
I have fucked them all whites from several countries, blacks from Africa, Caribbean, USA and Canada as well as most Asian cultures (Missing Japanese and Koreans so far) plus Native North Americans, Pacific Islander etc.
About the biggest difference is that a Pina is more likely to put her all into it. It just may be me, or it just may be that I like petite submissive women and pinas are more likely to be petite and submissive.
Chocha Monger
06-09-20, 22:47
What a mess it must be in many Filipino households in Ph. I only hear from 3 Filipinas. Since the onset of covid.
One girl has managed to get pregnant and beaten up by the pinoy BF.
Another has had the foreigner husband file for annulment as he realises he won't be back in his lifetime and.
A third is living on a promise of a job in Canada.
Certainly the emotional cracks are appearing.
PP.The average Pinay is as cunning as a dunny rat. In spite of the many tales of woe, they always manage to sort it out. Pregnancies and punch-ups with the trike driver boyfriend are par for the course in Flipsville. It may shock you but best not to get involved. Many foreigners have carked it playing the hero to their Pinay in distress.
The old foreigner husband did his LBFM a service when he filed for annulment, as the alternative was to keep supporting her from abroad knowing that the local trike driver had taken up his husbandly duties during his extended absence. On his part, the marriage became pointless when he realized that he would never again enjoy BBFSCIP with his darling LBFM in his rapidly dwindling lifetime. At least, she is now unencumbered to lay the marriage trap for another monger in hopes of hitting the jackpot.
Wicked Roger
06-09-20, 23:15
About the biggest difference is that a Pina is more likely to put her all into it. It just may be me, or it just may be that I like petite submissive women and pinas are more likely to be petite and submissive.Same for me I always look for and have Asian ladies and preferably pinays when am outside the country. Just have to look harder and be more selective. For those reasons as you said KG. Sadly ED may not realize this as he hates the country and the ladies but still loves to criticize and comment on things he despises.
Expat American
06-10-20, 03:58
I first discovered AC in 2004. You cold get ST for 500 pesos and bar fines were never over 1500. And you really had to kick them out of your room or they would never leave. Bar girls would follow you out of their bars for free if their shift was ending. I had one do that and spend 2 days with me without asking for anything. I met local 18 and 19 yo girls who would come and stay for 4 days and never expect any payment. The bars had full nudity, full on g / g action and body paint contests. Before the Koreans, and Chinese had taken over the place. Things changed over time but you could still find vestiges of the old AC. Santos street still had a few BJ bars, Raymond street had some short time places and you could always go to Niftys / Rios for no holds barred action for the price of a few LDs. The last few trips it was hard to find that stuff but it was at least still possible to find a fresh 18 yo and take her for a short time swing even at 3000 pesos. But the fun of bar hopping had diminished greatly. I think most bars will die from CoVid. The girls will still be there and need to make money. Without a central point like AC it will make it harder for them to make the kinds of money they were used to. For me, it was always less about the sex and more about the fun in the bars. That has been dying for a long time and even if travel opens up and I go back to the Phils, it would probably not be AC.
Sadly ED may not realize this as he hates the country and the ladies but still loves to criticize and comment on things he despises.A miserable human being obsessed with older men's genitals. Spends more time worrying about other than himself. Glad that he hates it here, maybe he will stay away.
Same for me I always look for and have Asian ladies and preferably pinays when am outside the country. We are all a little bit hopeless for the exotic pussy. As I was fucking my local chinese fuckbuddy I was just staring at her eyes. So good. Later in the week a little korean is on the menu again. My local filipina is off the rosyer at the moment. While sexually she is good, these other women have uni degrees and a much higher mental engagement for their money. So in between the rounds they are much more interesting.
It's been a long time since I was in bed with with a girl with a clear aussie accent.
PP.
I disagree, a good fuck is a good fuck just as a bad one is bad.Not only that but your good fuck may be a bad fuck for me. Hell, I've even had a great fuck yesterday become a hopeless fuck today. 😁.
G.
Engine Driver
06-10-20, 07:50
A third is living on a promise of a job in Canada.Too funny! Half the country is living on the promise of a job in RWML. Wiping the asses of septuagenarians in RWML for two years as a CG is probably better than hanging around WU for remittances that never come.
Mr Enternational
06-10-20, 07:59
I have fucked them all whites from several countries, blacks from Africa, Caribbean, USA and Canada as well as most Asian cultures (Missing Japanese and Koreans so far) plus Native North Americans, Pacific Islander etc.
About the biggest difference is that a Pina is more likely to put her all into it. It just may be me,It is just you. There is nothing that makes Pinay stand out in the fucking department when compared to other nationalities. Matter of fact, I would not even consider them in the rating. Most guys that have ever been to Brazil would agree that there you will find the mountaintop.
AussieGaigin
06-10-20, 10:20
I disagree, a good fuck is a good fuck just as a bad one is bad.
I have fucked them all whites from several countries, blacks from Africa, Caribbean, USA and Canada as well as most Asian cultures (Missing Japanese and Koreans so far) plus Native North Americans, Pacific Islander etc.
About the biggest difference is that a Pina is more likely to put her all into it. It just may be me, or it just may be that I like petite submissive women and pinas are more likely to be petite and submissive.I would suggest you try some Japanese girls. Their sexual appetites and performances can be as good as Pinays, with the benefit that they don't see any ATM signs on your forehead.
It is just you. There is nothing that makes Pinay stand out in the fucking department when compared to other nationalities. Matter of fact, I would not even consider them in the rating. Most guys that have ever been to Brazil would agree that there you will find the mountaintop.I hear ya!
Billy Baht
06-10-20, 18:53
The bars had full nudity, full on g / g action and body paint contests. Before the Koreans, and Chinese had taken over the place. Things changed over time but you could still find vestiges of the old AC. Santos street still had a few BJ bars, Raymond street had some short time places and you could always go to Niftys / Rios for no holds barred action for the price of a few LDs. The last few trips it was hard to find that stuff but it was at least still possible to find a fresh 18 yo and take her for a short time swing even at 3000 pesos. But the fun of bar hopping had diminished greatly. I think most bars will die from CoVid.I agree buddy. The elite Pinoys may use COV-idiocy to wipe the bars out in AC.
I would suggest you try some Japanese girls. Their sexual appetites and performances can be as good as Pinays, with the benefit that they don't see any ATM signs on your forehead.Japanese and Koreans are no my bucket list.
Japanese and Koreans are no my bucket list.There might be a typo there KG. Which did you mean?
Japanese and Koreans are on my bucket list.
Japanese and Koreans are not my bucket list.
There might be a typo there KG. Which did you mean?
Japanese and Koreans are on my bucket list.
Japanese and Koreans are not my bucket list.They are always on my list! Bucket list has been for filled.
They are always on my list! Bucket list has been for filled.I had some nice korean yesterday actually. Amazing hot bod. She is definitely subservient to my wishes. Hard to describe. She's a willing participant in sex but doesn't initiate.
Now. To find a local japanese.
There might be a typo there KG. Which did you mean?
Japanese and Koreans are on my bucket list.
Japanese and Koreans are not my bucket list.On my list.
Japanese and Koreans are no my bucket list.You didn't try your luck in Sabang / PG? Lots of cute Korean instructors there. The guys are notorious cockbkockers though for any westerner to who wants to give it a go. 🤨.
Enjoy. G.
Naked Gunz
06-20-20, 06:39
OK, so this new vlogger on yT is a very smart Pinay that has my attention. She so fucking smart that you would probably put yourself at a disadvantage by being in her life (her man). I don't generally meet Pinay this smart. I get baby factories dumped by their Pinoy BF that only have pussy for sale keeping them and those children alive. May the big man above recognize my dollars are saving the world-kinda, after I take my cut. Is that redemption?
Anyway the smart Pinay went to a Pinay lawyer for advice for all you dumb asses that marry these women! Watch it for your own good I guess. Their maybe some advice for somebody in this vid. Enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8haHUYGwQys
Engine Driver
06-22-20, 03:29
Pinays live in a culture where 'sharing' among the extended family is the norm. Many academic elites from Western universities, and a few do-gooders on this Board, gush over the egalitarian nature of Filipino society. What becomes apparent over time though is that the culture stifles all ambition, keeps everyone at the lowest common denominator, and corrupts the democratic process as elected representatives are expected to 'share' with a select group. This then ensures that everyone stays poor.
Many a monger in the West who has fallen into the marriage trap with an LBFM has found out that his entire life's work has been squandered by that LBFM's extended family, all in the name sharing.
Engine Driver
06-22-20, 03:32
OK, so this new vlogger on yT is a very smart Pinay that has my attention. She so fucking smart that you would probably put yourself at a disadvantage by being in her life (her man). I don't generally meet Pinay this smart. I get baby factories dumped by their Pinoy BF that only have pussy for sale keeping them and those children alive. May the big man above recognize my dollars are saving the world-kinda, after I take my cut. Is that redemption?
Anyway the smart Pinay went to a Pinay lawyer for advice for all you dumb asses that marry these women! Watch it for your own good I guess. Their maybe some advice for somebody in this vid. Enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8haHUYGwQysThat LBFM attorney is also married to a western monger in Dumaguette! Hahahaha. Dressed like a maid, would anyone seriously consider hiring that attorney for advice? Doesn't exactly inspire confidence.
That LBFM attorney is also married to a western monger in Dumaguette! Hahahaha. Dressed like a maid, would anyone seriously consider hiring that attorney for advice? Doesn't exactly inspire confidence.I was paying an attorney in Angeles for advice (business matters) and they didn't inspire my confidence either.
an attorney in Angeles for advice (business matters)Is that like Miliary Intelligence Officer? Police Integrity Commissioner?
Is that like Miliary Intelligence Officer? Police Integrity Commissioner?Was a contract issue that needed to be resolved through the Ph courts. The lawyer that I saw really wasn't interested or competent. Lots of words and no progress.
Chocha Monger
06-23-20, 22:41
Pinays live in a culture where 'sharing' among the extended family is the norm. Many academic elites from Western universities, and a few do-gooders on this Board, gush over the egalitarian nature of Filipino society. What becomes apparent over time though is that the culture stifles all ambition, keeps everyone at the lowest common denominator, and corrupts the democratic process as elected representatives are expected to 'share' with a select group. This then ensures that everyone stays poor.
Many a monger in the West who has fallen into the marriage trap with an LBFM has found out that his entire life's work has been squandered by that LBFM's extended family, all in the name sharing.The curious thing is that many mongers endured lives of deprivation and hard labor to squirrel away and invest in a nest egg only to allow a LBFM and her family to squander it in spectacular fashion over a few years. In the end, many end up with nothing more than memories of BBFSCIP for their trouble and live out their remaining lifetime as paupers, older but not necessarily wiser.
Engine Driver
06-23-20, 23:42
The curious thing is that many mongers endured lives of deprivation and hard labor to squirrel away and invest in a nest egg only to allow a LBFM and her family to squander it in spectacular fashion over a few years. In the end, many end up with nothing more than memories of BBFSCIP for their trouble and live out their remaining lifetime as paupers, older but not necessarily wiser.In that regard, Grandpa Caramello was one of the smarter mongers. In his legendary 40+ year mongering career in Micronesia and South East Asia, he did not fall in love with any of his nubile, young conquests. He rather wisely avoided matrimony. His addiction to BBFSCIP did leave a lasting social legacy of course though. Over 500 half-caste bastard children wandering the streets looking for their Australian passports. Hahahaha.
Engine Driver
06-23-20, 23:51
Was a contract issue that needed to be resolved through the Ph courts. The lawyer that I saw really wasn't interested or competent. Lots of words and no progress.Your attorney was also getting paid by the other side. LOL.
Wicked Roger
06-24-20, 00:19
I was paying an attorney in Angeles for advice (business matters) and they didn't inspire my confidence either.Many are incompetent and corrupt. Ask large sum up front for fees and spend it on other things, don't do much, full of BA.
But there are good ones with morals who are excellent. I have met both kinds and can, and have, recommended the good lawyers to a few members.
CenTexCrash
06-24-20, 07:09
Girl I exchanged Whatsapp info with I picked up at LA Cafe a while back pleaded for one bailout in April, gave her $170 since I was tired of listening to her. As a thank you, she sends dirty pics, she's nude but just kinda awkwardly lying in bed with barely any movement if it weren't for her one hand moving up and down, I'd be checking for a pulse.
Two months later, she pleaded for bus fare to move home to folks in countryside since she was depleted in Manila with no business in LA Cafe. Gave her the "last bit" $50 to get some bus fare and food and be done.
Blows up Whatsapp again saying she's 3 months behind needs 15000 PHP yesterday, landlord already has people ready to move in. Silly me thinking the bus ride was the end of it. Haggled and "they" agreed to 10000 PHP today and settle up for rest in 1 month, I tried for 9000 but oh well. Sent $220 (ouch!) toward the 10 k plus a little extra for groceries. Also hammered her with I don't really have the means to do this on a regular basis.
So 5 days later (today), she sends dirty pics. These dirty pics are envelopes saying she still owes the electric utility company 2200 PHP.
You know that feeling when a stray cat adopts you? Am I allowed to say "If you have any sponsors in Korea or China, you probably want to start hassling them" or "Create a My Free Cams account"?
Expat American
06-24-20, 07:28
Girl I exchanged Whatsapp info with I picked up at LA Cafe a while back pleaded for one bailout in April, gave her $170 since I was tired of listening to her. As a thank you, she sends dirty pics, she's nude but just kinda awkwardly lying in bed with barely any movement if it weren't for her one hand moving up and down, I'd be checking for a pulse.
Two months later, she pleaded for bus fare to move home to folks in countryside since she was depleted in Manila with no business in LA Cafe. Gave her the "last bit" $50 to get some bus fare and food and be done.
Blows up Whatsapp again saying she's 3 months behind needs 15000 PHP yesterday, landlord already has people ready to move in. Silly me thinking the bus ride was the end of it. Haggled and "they" agreed to 10000 PHP today and settle up for rest in 1 month, I tried for 9000 but oh well. Sent $220 (ouch!) toward the 10 k plus a little extra for groceries. Also hammered her with I don't really have the means to do this on a regular basis.
So 5 days later (today), she sends dirty pics. These dirty pics are envelopes saying she still owes the electric utility company 2200 PHP.Imagine walking down the street and finding an ATM. All you have to do is push a button and money comes out. No account needed. Every time you ask for money it gives you money and then says please don't ask again. But you do, and each time the ATM dispenses money asking for nothing in return. How many times will you push the button? Why on earth did you respond the first time she asked for cash? Do you really think that if you didn't send her the money she wouldn't find some other way to make do? You were and are the easy mark and are labelled as such. Delete and block her and don't be so stupid again!
Girl I exchanged Whatsapp info with I picked up at LA Cafe a while back pleaded for one bailout in April, gave her $170 since I was tired of listening to her. As a thank you, she sends dirty pics, she's nude but just kinda awkwardly lying in bed with barely any movement if it weren't for her one hand moving up and down, I'd be checking for a pulse.
Two months later, she pleaded for bus fare to move home to folks in countryside since she was depleted in Manila with no business in LA Cafe. Gave her the "last bit" $50 to get some bus fare and food and be done.
Blows up Whatsapp again saying she's 3 months behind needs 15000 PHP yesterday, landlord already has people ready to move in. Silly me thinking the bus ride was the end of it. Haggled and "they" agreed to 10000 PHP today and settle up for rest in 1 month, I tried for 9000 but oh well. Sent $220 (ouch!) toward the 10 k plus a little extra for groceries. Also hammered her with I don't really have the means to do this on a regular basis.
So 5 days later (today), she sends dirty pics. These dirty pics are envelopes saying she still owes the electric utility company 2200 PHP.
You know that feeling when a stray cat adopts you? Am I allowed to say "If you have any sponsors in Korea or China, you probably want to start hassling them" or "Create a My Free Cams account"?Both options are good, or you can use third option and sag "NO". She will figure it out somehow.
That's the thing, you help them once and now she will message you anytime she need money. I have seen it a lot of times. Recently I gave $50 to some chick in Hanoi last month, I met her on my Hanoi trip last year. She asked for $100 again next week and said something about rent bla bla. I told her nope, no reason given. I don't owe her any explaination. And now she's not disturbing me. If I don't want to give money, I will say no.
Albert9989
06-24-20, 07:36
Girl I exchanged Whatsapp info with I picked up at LA Cafe a while back pleaded for one bailout in April, gave her $170 since I was tired of listening to her. As a thank you,
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You know that feeling when a stray cat adopts you? Am I allowed to say "If you have any sponsors in Korea or China, you probably want to start hassling them" or "Create a My Free Cams account"?
It ends when you say no. Or it never end.
Up to you.
You know that feeling when a stray cat adopts you? Am I allowed to say "If you have any sponsors in Korea or China, you probably want to start hassling them" or "Create a My Free Cams account"?20 k over 3 months for a few dirty pics? Dude, sorry to say it but she well and truly saw you coming.
Why was there any "haggling" over giving her 9 or 10 or 15 k?
And to cap it off, of course there are other "boyfriends" sending funds on top of yours.
It seems Carona has been very good to her. 😀.
My suggestion is to not even answer these types of chats. By all means, keep her number for an easy ST when you return but carrying on conversations for months on end serves no purpose.
Cheers. G.
Mr Enternational
06-24-20, 08:24
Girl I exchanged Whatsapp info with I picked up at LA Cafe a while back pleaded for one bailout in April, gave her $170 since I was tired of listening to her. As a thank you, she sends dirty pics, Hehehe. If you were tired of listening to her, why not just block her or put her on mute? You paid $170 for pictures of a chick that you had already fucked (could have taken them of her for free then yourself). You paid $170 for the same pictures that she has sent to who knows how many other dudes. You paid $170 for pictures when there are millions of free ones on the internet of chicks that surely look better than her. But like posters have said before, you made your own money so that you could waste it as you please.
P. S. She has this family to move back home to, but they can't scrape together $10 for her to get a bus ticket and she has to rely on you? You did not give a time frame, but if she moved back home last month when you gave her money to do so, how did she get 3 months behind on her rent? And she is supposed to be at her family's home anyway. Either you told it wrong or this shit does not add up.
Girl I exchanged Whatsapp info with I picked up at LA Cafe a while back pleaded for one bailout in April, gave her $170 since I was tired of listening to her. As a thank you, she sends dirty pics, she's nude but just kinda awkwardly lying in bed with barely any movement if it weren't for her one hand moving up and down, I'd be checking for a pulse.
Two months later, she pleaded for bus fare to move home to folks in countryside since she was depleted in Manila with no business in LA Cafe. Gave her the "last bit" $50 to get some bus fare and food and be done.
Blows up Whatsapp again saying she's 3 months behind needs 15000 PHP yesterday, landlord already has people ready to move in. Silly me thinking the bus ride was the end of it. Haggled and "they" agreed to 10000 PHP today and settle up for rest in 1 month, I tried for 9000 but oh well. Sent $220 (ouch!) toward the 10 k plus a little extra for groceries. Also hammered her with I don't really have the means to do this on a regular basis.
So 5 days later (today), she sends dirty pics. These dirty pics are envelopes saying she still owes the electric utility company 2200 PHP.
You know that feeling when a stray cat adopts you? Am I allowed to say "If you have any sponsors in Korea or China, you probably want to start hassling them" or "Create a My Free Cams account"?She wins the award for the most expensive lay in LA Cafe.
It ends when you say no. Or it never end.
Up to you.A QC girl I knew asked me to buy her a food cart stand. I figured the price was more than the revenue she would bring in over a year. And of course, the failing business would have had me responsible to keep it solvent ("I have no money to buy meat!").
It would have never ended. I said no.
Girl I exchanged Whatsapp info with I picked up at LA Cafe a while back pleaded for one bailout in April, gave her $170 since I was tired of listening to her. As a thank you, she sends dirty pics, she's nude but just kinda awkwardly lying in bed with barely any movement if it weren't for her one hand moving up and down, I'd be checking for a pulse.
Two months later, she pleaded for bus fare to move home to folks in countryside since she was depleted in Manila with no business in LA Cafe. Gave her the "last bit" $50 to get some bus fare and food and be done.
Blows up Whatsapp again saying she's 3 months behind needs 15000 PHP yesterday, landlord already has people ready to move in. Silly me thinking the bus ride was the end of it. Haggled and "they" agreed to 10000 PHP today and settle up for rest in 1 month, I tried for 9000 but oh well. Sent $220 (ouch!) toward the 10 k plus a little extra for groceries. Also hammered her with I don't really have the means to do this on a regular basis.
So 5 days later (today), she sends dirty pics. These dirty pics are envelopes saying she still owes the electric utility company 2200 PHP.
You know that feeling when a stray cat adopts you? Am I allowed to say "If you have any sponsors in Korea or China, you probably want to start hassling them" or "Create a My Free Cams account"?Why does it have to end? You have the money and she needs it so let her have it. In Thailand the chicks would say you have a good heart or you are jai dee, max max.
Muzungufotsy
06-24-20, 15:38
Girl I exchanged Whatsapp info with I picked up at LA Cafe a while back pleaded for one bailout in April, gave her $170 since I was tired of listening to her. As a thank you, she sends dirty pics, she's nude but just kinda awkwardly lying in bed with barely any movement if it weren't for her one hand moving up and down, I'd be checking for a pulse.
Two months later, she pleaded for bus fare to move home to folks in countryside since she was depleted in Manila with no business in LA Cafe. Gave her the "last bit" $50 to get some bus fare and food and be done.
Blows up Whatsapp again saying she's 3 months behind needs 15000 PHP yesterday, landlord already has people ready to move in. Silly me thinking the bus ride was the end of it. Haggled and "they" agreed to 10000 PHP today and settle up for rest in 1 month, I tried for 9000 but oh well. Sent $220 (ouch!) toward the 10 k plus a little extra for groceries. Also hammered her with I don't really have the means to do this on a regular basis.
So 5 days later (today), she sends dirty pics. These dirty pics are envelopes saying she still owes the electric utility company 2200 PHP.
You know that feeling when a stray cat adopts you? Am I allowed to say "If you have any sponsors in Korea or China, you probably want to start hassling them" or "Create a My Free Cams account"?Just show us the pics at least.
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