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Mr Enternational
01-19-21, 15:36
Thankfully, he never had to go to Harlem or the South Side of Chicago, where they live on tins of dog food.Never understood that myth. A can of people food costs less than a can of dog food, so why buy the more expensive thing that was not intended for human consumption?
Speaking of being careful, can someone expound on this early marriage and consensual sex thing? Seems. . . dangerous.Dangerous indeed! Nothing in that advice is correct for you and me.
WestCoast1
01-22-21, 08:37
To paraphrase Soapy Smith, it's difficult for most poor Filipinos to step outside of their cultural frame of reference, and for many Filipinos that cultural framework is limited to family, clan, and village. That's all they know, and their knowledge of other value systems, political systems or socio-cultural milieux is extraordinarily limited. Cross cultural studies are not a subject taught in public schools here. It's important to recognize as well that a large majority of Filipinos still live in rural areas, or what we in the West would call "depressed rural areas," with few amenities, no libraries or books to speak of, the constant grind of poverty and few external roll models. So, while I understand your point, I disagree to the extent that for meany Filipinos, this set of expectations is all they know. GE.
As GE has explained "utang no loob," there is a socialization process so deeply embedded in Filipino culture and in child-rearing practices that, for Filipinos, it is tacit, taken for granted. So they are like fish who are unaware their environment is wet SNIP Similarly, assumptions about "success" in life or doing better than the generation before are assumptions in the American culture that I grew up in. SNIPSpot on and spot on. In the area where I live, I have had a number of regulars over the last decade. While this is a city of hundreds of thousands, in reality its a large set of barrios. All of my provincial regulars (and that's a lot) share some commonalities:
1) They live in compounds in their barangay (hovels; only 2 have lived in a brick building and I consider those to be hovels also). Some of their homes are literally leaning to one side, I can't believe they haven't collapsed. Few have ever lived away from the compounds, neighbors, and families. They sometimes move to a different nearby brgy due to the boyfriend's work, where they again live with family. A few months later when the work wears thin, they move back to the first brgy.
2) Only 1 of them graduated from high school (nor is it important to them or anyone around them). They almost all have a fake high school diploma as a work document.
3) Only 2 of them ever had a dating site profile (they don't want one; they are happy dating or marrying within their sphere). One who had a dating site profile for a year deleted it in 2016. This would be evidence that not every pinay is looking for a rich foreigner -- or even any foreigner.
4) They are happy repeating their mother's lives; in fact its literally expected. An exact quote, and one that I've heard more than once: "Soon she need to make a apo to her mama. She's 25 already". Apo = grandchild. This goes directly to SS' point of desired "success", or 'doing better than the generation before' being a western concept: My girls just don't see or express this. I see the same in their cousins, parents and grandparents. Mostly they are concerned with food on the table and changing diapers. The idea of delayed gratification (college and job first, marriage and starting a family later) is not in their heads. None of my girls has gone down this delayed gratification path and none of the mention a desire for their kids to do that.
One of them said to me: "I want a simple life only". Sweetie, what does that mean? "Rice and spaghetti and pork and vegetable I like to prepare. Clean home. Enough to pay the rent and electric and water each month. Children. Go in Mass. Like that". Which would be exactly her mother's, tita's, and lola's lives.
5) The only political system they know is their own. They are at least talkative of former pinoy adminstrations. The only knowledge they have of outside systems is what they see in FB or ask me about. It can be difficult to explain that in America, the presidential candidate and their vice prez candidate run together, bundled as a ticket (not separately). They hear the craziest stuff about foreign politics, and I assume its from FB or chismosa. Example: In the same week I heard this from both one of my girls and also a taxi driver: "Its true Trump will kill Joe Biden?" Um, no. "Then Trump will Joe Biden in the jail?" Um, no. . .
6) As GE said, everything is related to clan, family, village (and I would add FB) for them. The compound (and chismosa) is everything. Everything they know comes from the family and compound 'learnin' (gossip). Many of the things they profess to know are factually not true (ie, can't get preggers from f*cking while standing up, and other jaw droppers), and sometimes harmless, sometimes true, and sometimes unknown if true or not. Folklore. Example. Last year I got a small rash on my arm for a few days. It was itchy. I meant to buy some itch cream at the pharmacy. One of my girls brought a small round vegetable, crushed it, and rubbed it on my rash. "Mama teaching me that one. Feel better?" OK! It did nothing for my itch, but I said yes it feels better and I thanked her for it. She brought it 3 days running till the rash was gone. She didn't make claim that it healed the rash, only that it stopped the itch (it did not). I was at least grateful for the gesture. These remedies are passed down generationally ("Papa say it will blah blah blah") or from 'non-tradtional' doctors.
BTW: "Non-traditional doctor" could be top secret pinay code for a Shaman (not kidding, that's the term used), or a med-school dropout, or anyone who is into holistics from FB. The Shaman might take any of several forms of payment, including chickens. I have Shaman stories. Wok-wok stories also.
Spot on and spot on. In the area where I live, I have had a number of regulars over the last decade. While this is a city of hundreds of thousands, in reality its a large set of barrios. All of my provincial regulars (and that's a lot) share some commonalities:
1) They live in compounds in their barangay (hovels; only 2 have lived in a brick building and I consider those to be hovels also). Some of their homes are literally leaning to one side, I can't believe they haven't collapsed. Few have ever lived away from the compounds, neighbors, and families. They sometimes move to a different nearby brgy due to the boyfriend's work, where they again live with family. A few months later when the work wears thin, they move back to the first brgy.
2) Only 1 of them graduated from high school (nor is it important to them or anyone around them). They almost all have a fake high school diploma as a work document.
3) Only 2 of them ever had a dating site profile (they don't want one; they are happy dating or marrying within their sphere). One who had a dating site profile for a year deleted it in 2016. This would be evidence that not every pinay is looking for a rich foreigner -- or even any foreigner.
4) They are happy repeating their mother's lives; in fact its literally expected. An exact quote, and one that I've heard more than once: "Soon she need to make a apo to her mama. She's 25 already". Apo = grandchild. This goes directly to SS' point of desired "success", or 'doing better than the generation before' being a western concept: My girls just don't see or express this. I see the same in their cousins, parents and grandparents. Mostly they are concerned with food on the table and changing diapers. The idea of delayed gratification (college and job first, marriage and starting a family later) is not in their heads. None of my girls has gone down this delayed gratification path and none of the mention a desire for their kids to do that.
One of them said to me: "I want a simple life only". Sweetie, what does that mean? "Rice and spaghetti and pork and vegetable I like to prepare. Clean home. Enough to pay the rent and electric and water each month. Children. Go in Mass. Like that". Which would be exactly her mother's, tita's, and lola's lives.
5) The only political system they know is their own. They are at least talkative of former pinoy adminstrations. The only knowledge they have of outside systems is what they see in FB or ask me about. It can be difficult to explain that in America, the presidential candidate and their vice prez candidate run together, bundled as a ticket (not separately). They hear the craziest stuff about foreign politics, and I assume its from FB or chismosa. Example: In the same week I heard this from both one of my girls and also a taxi driver: "Its true Trump will kill Joe Biden?" Um, no. "Then Trump will Joe Biden in the jail?" Um, no. . .
6) As GE said, everything is related to clan, family, village (and I would add FB) for them. The compound (and chismosa) is everything. Everything they know comes from the family and compound 'learnin' (gossip). Many of the things they profess to know are factually not true (ie, can't get preggers from f*cking while standing up, and other jaw droppers), and sometimes harmless, sometimes true, and sometimes unknown if true or not. Folklore. Example. Last year I got a small rash on my arm for a few days. It was itchy. I meant to buy some itch cream at the pharmacy. One of my girls brought a small round vegetable, crushed it, and rubbed it on my rash. "Mama teaching me that one. Feel better?" OK! It did nothing for my itch, but I said yes it feels better and I thanked her for it. She brought it 3 days running till the rash was gone. She didn't make claim that it healed the rash, only that it stopped the itch (it did not). I was at least grateful for the gesture. These remedies are passed down generationally ("Papa say it will blah blah blah") or from 'non-tradtional' doctors.
BTW: "Non-traditional doctor" could be top secret pinay code for a Shaman (not kidding, that's the term used), or a med-school dropout, or anyone who is into holistics from FB. The Shaman might take any of several forms of payment, including chickens. I have Shaman stories. Wok-wok stories also.WC1 very excellent post! I think you probably have forgotten the most important governmental body outside of their compounds they deal with daily, and that is the Father at the local Catholic Church. Not going to turn this into any anti-Catholic or Iglesia Baptist rant since I love why religion and try to practice it even though I've failed many times (I. E. Posting here) but excluding the Holy parts, organizations like the Church (or Mosque) really have a lot to do with keeping some of these people in the same predicaments. As long as they can get their money from the flock, and if they can't get it from there they can send pictures to more wealthier places and ask for donations they will tend to keep these people poor and happy living their lives. Much like the old Feudal system. Again, not against religion at all, but some of those people who are organizers are just taking those people to the cleaners. As the old saying goes, "The Missionary's came to do good, and they did well. ".
WC1 very excellent post! I think you probably have forgotten the most important governmental body outside of their compounds they deal with daily, and that is the Father at the local Catholic Church. ".Reminds me of a story a college educated girl told me a couple of years ago. When she was about 22 years old and graduated she was approached by her priest who ask her to have sex with him, she said no. A few days later he approached her again, this time telling her she was the first girl to ever turn him down.
PedroMorales
01-22-21, 18:11
Give your fantasies about "college girls" confessing to you as they rim you in road side brothels a rest.
Reminds me of a story a college educated girl told me a couple of years ago. When she was about 22 years old and graduated she was approached by her priest who ask her to have sex with him, she said no. A few days later he approached her again, this time telling her she was the first girl to ever turn him down.
I am getting an expat job shortly in Europe. It provides a house and I can nominate a partner to join me. I have a couple of girls in mind from the Philippines to fill that role since I can only take holidays every 6 months and am thinking having one on tap for a year or so would be convenient.
The question is that I have previously tried to get one to join me for a holiday and she was stopped by immigration before departure. With travel restrictions I don't see it feasible to go there and travel with her to avoid problems so are there any ways to ensure there are no hiccups with immigration. Obviously she would have an entry visa for the destination, but is other documentation necessary or advisable?
I am getting an expat job shortly in Europe. It provides a house and I can nominate a partner to join me. I have a couple of girls in mind from the Philippines to fill that role since I can only take holidays every 6 months and am thinking having one on tap for a year or so would be convenient.
The question is that I have previously tried to get one to join me for a holiday and she was stopped by immigration before departure. With travel restrictions I don't see it feasible to go there and travel with her to avoid problems so are there any ways to ensure there are no hiccups with immigration. Obviously she would have an entry visa for the destination, but is other documentation necessary or advisable?A few years ago a friend of mine too his girl to Hong Kong. Sure enough they stopped her at immigration and conducted an intensive interview. They were prepared with pictures, FB posts and messages of them to prove it was a relationship over time. It helped that he was there to answer questions. In the end he had to sign papers that he was financially responsible for her and would bring her back. Of course there no visa required for her visit to HK. They let her travel out of the country and said because it was her first time out they had to investigate.
The following year he took her and her 2 children to Hong Kong for a weeks vacation. They had prepared for the dreaded interviews including a death certificate for the kids father and coached the 2 kids for the interviews and about going to Disneyland. They sailed through immigration without one question!
Who knows how immigration will handle things. It is best to be prepared to back up the relationship. It would be easier if you are there to answer questions and show you are traveling with her. Also you may need to sign financial responsibility papers for her.
I think having a visa for her will help greatly. You might search non essential travel requirements for Philippine citizens.
I am getting an expat job shortly in Europe. It provides a house and I can nominate a partner to join me. I have a couple of girls in mind from the Philippines to fill that role since I can only take holidays every 6 months and am thinking having one on tap for a year or so would be convenient.
I've never had a work visa for Europe but generally having girls on tap for longer than a tourist visa would require a dependant partner temporary residency visa for each.
1/ is your work going to issue these to numerous girls during your stay? They are not cheap and can require considerable paperwork / processing effort. I'm thinking this may not look good on your HR record.
2/ is Euro Immigration going to approve the same? What Proof of Relationship evidence are you going to provide?
1 & 2 notwithstanding, I'd expect a pre approved partner visa to greatly ease her progress through NAIA.
Enjoy. G.
I am getting an expat job shortly in Europe. It provides a house and I can nominate a partner to join me. I have a couple of girls in mind from the Philippines to fill that role since I can only take holidays every 6 months and am thinking having one on tap for a year or so would be convenient.
The question is that I have previously tried to get one to join me for a holiday and she was stopped by immigration before departure. With travel restrictions I don't see it feasible to go there and travel with her to avoid problems so are there any ways to ensure there are no hiccups with immigration. Obviously she would have an entry visa for the destination, but is other documentation necessary or advisable?Outbound travel for Filipinos right now is mostly for OFWs. Even in non covid times a Filipina travelling by herself overseas will raise a red flag with Philippines immigration. If she has never travelled abroad before she will almost certainly be offloaded if she is travelling on a tourist visa by herself. Offloading at NAIA can only be avoided if you are travelling with her on the same ticket and you have extensive documentation and proof of your relationship with her. You will have to prove that you have known her for sometime, with evidence that you will support her financially and guarantee her safe return to the Philippines. You don't say how old this girl is, or her background, if she has a decent paying job, if she has travelled before or how you met her. If she is just some random bar girl or dating site girl you barely know or even met in person, the chances of her boarding a flight out of the Philippines is zero. Some naive province girl, who has never held a passport and travelled before and is trying to board a flight to the other side of the world by herself, will raise immediate suspicion with the BI. It would not matter what documents she takes with her, if you are not there with her when the BI interview her, they will not let her on the flight.
I've never had a work visa for Europe but generally having girls on tap for longer than a tourist visa would require a dependant partner temporary residency visa for each.
1/ is your work going to issue these to numerous girls during your stay? They are not cheap and can require considerable paperwork / processing effort. I'm thinking this may not look good on your HR record.
2/ is Euro Immigration going to approve the same? What Proof of Relationship evidence are you going to provide?
1 & 2 notwithstanding, I'd expect a pre approved partner visa to greatly ease her progress through NAIA.
Enjoy. G.If I were you I would wait until I get there. You will be amazed at the amount of Pinays around the world working. There will be a few there, and just bide your time to find them and set up an agreement with one of them. I am sure that there will be a domestic worker or "entertainer" or a cousin or sister of one that will need a place to stay and will be willing to work on your program to be a temporary shack up person. I am willing to say, there will also be numerous Chinese or Thai women also in that same boat. Just need to read forums like this, find out where the action is and start from there.
I've never had a work visa for Europe but generally having girls on tap for longer than a tourist visa would require a dependant partner temporary residency visa for each.
1/ is your work going to issue these to numerous girls during your stay? They are not cheap and can require considerable paperwork / processing effort. I'm thinking this may not look good on your HR record.
2/ is Euro Immigration going to approve the same? What Proof of Relationship evidence are you going to provide?
1 & 2 notwithstanding, I'd expect a pre approved partner visa to greatly ease her progress through NAIA.
Enjoy. G.Its not something I would do regularly. I would want a minimum of a year. I'm in my 60's so my HR record isn't going to be swayed too much by this.
Its not something that will stress the company. The location is 200 km north of the arctic circle so I think they would see it as what makes me happy and keeps me there is ok with them. They will organize the visa. As I am not a European citizen I'm not sure how they assess these things.
They give me and my partner business class fares, that may help as well!
I guess I can provide them a few pictures of my cock inside her as proof of relationship.
I can organize a letter of financial support.
I am getting an expat job shortly in Europe. It provides a house and I can nominate a partner to join me. I have a couple of girls in mind from the Philippines to fill that role since I can only take holidays every 6 months and am thinking having one on tap for a year or so would be convenient.
The question is that I have previously tried to get one to join me for a holiday and she was stopped by immigration before departure. With travel restrictions I don't see it feasible to go there and travel with her to avoid problems so are there any ways to ensure there are no hiccups with immigration. Obviously she would have an entry visa for the destination, but is other documentation necessary or advisable?Laws or at least enforcement is very strict in Europe. While your intentions are to have a live in companion from Philippines, there are many issues and problems. Philippine women are best enjoyed and left in their own country. Once taken out of the country they will have lot of power. Once out they prefer to stay out of the country and make a good life for themselves legal or illegal.
Your plan is a contract. Problems include getting her a visa, hoping Philippine immigration will let her out, your compensation agreed or not, her demand to send home money for this and that and the empowerment of the power she gets being in Europe. Your plan is thinking Philippine women will be subservient in Europe is totally wrong.
Better make frequent trips to Philippines and enjoy the women there.
Wicked Roger
01-23-21, 18:15
I am getting an expat job shortly in Europe. It provides a house and I can nominate a partner to join me. I have a couple of girls in mind from the Philippines to fill that role since I can only take holidays every 6 months and am thinking having one on tap for a year or so would be convenient.
The question is that I have previously tried to get one to join me for a holiday and she was stopped by immigration before departure. With travel restrictions I don't see it feasible to go there and travel with her to avoid problems so are there any ways to ensure there are no hiccups with immigration. Obviously she would have an entry visa for the destination, but is other documentation necessary or advisable?Research it. Very simple. Look at the country's website (the Embassy) and follow the rules. If Schengen it will mean lots of documents to prove she is your companion so as a starter for 10 (as they say on TV) you need bank statements (yours and hers), medical insurance proof for when she is there, photos of proof of relationship (dick pics are not welcome LOL), ticket proof (depends which country), hotel proof or evidence that where she stay with you is genuine, passports copies of both of you, letter of support (some like the financial element letter also but depends on the country) plus more.
And of course she maybe given a 3 month visa or a 2 week visa you never know.
I know all this as I have done this many times before but you are free to ignore the advice from me and others.
Then of course she can leave as she has the visa no issues, but can she leave in Covid times and can you be sure she will be admitted into the country in Covid times.
Mayeb as others say is to wait until you are there and see the lay of the land or go visit her when you are allowed.
Reminds me of a story a college educated girl told me a couple of years ago. When she was about 22 years old and graduated she was approached by her priest who ask her to have sex with him, she said no. A few days later he approached her again, this time telling her she was the first girl to ever turn him down.Curious, did she ever give it up to him? I imagine he probably pulled every trick in the book working the right person in her family to tell them to get her to give it up or face excommunication. I've seen some Baptist types in my area do just as worse, telling the family that it is in their interests to keep things quiet. Such a shame to take advantage of folks like that.
Its not something that will stress the company. The location is 200 km north of the arctic circle so I think they would see it as what makes me happy and keeps me there is ok with them. They will organize the visa. As I am not a European citizen I'm not sure how they assess these things..A lot of Filipinas don't like and don't do well in cold weather. Choose carefully.
Engine Driver
01-23-21, 21:36
Its not something I would do regularly. I would want a minimum of a year. I'm in my 60's so my HR record isn't going to be swayed too much by this.
Its not something that will stress the company. The location is 200 km north of the arctic circle so I think they would see it as what makes me happy and keeps me there is ok with them. They will organize the visa. As I am not a European citizen I'm not sure how they assess these things.
They give me and my partner business class fares, that may help as well!
I guess I can provide them a few pictures of my cock inside her as proof of relationship.
I can organize a letter of financial support.I think you have made up your mind already so nothing we say is going to make much difference. I've really been trying to see the upside, but honestly can't see any. Is all this hassle worth it for two roots a week?
I can see this going wrong in so many ways and can only end in total disaster.
Firstly, when you are at work, what is this girl going to do? She's going to be stuck in your apartment doing exactly what? She can't go outside because it's too cold, can't speak the language, can't get a job, has no transport, has no friends, can't get Asian food, and it's going to feel like prison for her after the first week. The Arctic Circle is the worst place you can take a Pinay fuck toy. When you get home from work, do you want drama dialed up to 10 each night? It will be a miserable existence for both of you.
Sure, you can get her a lap top and she can do Facebook, watch Korean shows and chat with horny mongers on dating apps. Other mongers will be feeding her information on how they can replace you. Being promiscuous and horny, what happens if she invites Sven or Vladimir from next door to your apartment for some traditional Filipina hospitality while you're out?
I think you have made up your mind already so nothing we say is going to make much difference. I've really been trying to see the upside, but honestly can't see any. Is all this hassle worth it for two roots a week?
I can see this going wrong in so many ways and can only end in total disaster.
Firstly, when you are at work, what is this girl going to do? She's going to be stuck in your apartment doing exactly what? She can't go outside because it's too cold, can't speak the language, can't get a job, has no transport, has no friends, can't get Asian food, and it's going to feel like prison for her after the first week. The Arctic Circle is the worst place you can take a Pinay fuck toy. When you get home from work, do you want drama dialed up to 10 each night? It will be a miserable existence for both of you.
Sure, you can get her a lap top and she can do Facebook, watch Korean shows and chat with horny mongers on dating apps. Other mongers will be feeding her information on how they can replace you. Being promiscuous and horny, what happens if she invites Sven or Vladimir from next door to your apartment for some traditional Filipina hospitality while you're out?She will never even get to Europe in the first place. Unless she has documents proving she has confirmed employment as an OFW she will not be allowed to leave the Philippines. Even if she gets the tourist visa for the destination country, BI officials will offload her at NAIA. If she is just some typical poor low paid or unemployed young Filipina with no money, the BI will know that she intends to work illegally.
http://www.immigration.gov.ph/news/press-release/73-march-2014-issuances/510-bi-there-is-no-such-thing-as-offloading-policy
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Wicked Roger
01-24-21, 22:27
She will never even get to Europe in the first place. Unless she has documents proving she has confirmed employment as an OFW she will not be allowed to leave the Philippines. Even if she gets the tourist visa for the destination country, BI officials will offload her at NAIA. If she is just some typical poor low paid or unemployed young Filipina with no money, the BI will know that she intends to work illegally.
http://www.immigration.gov.ph/news/press-release/73-march-2014-issuances/510-bi-there-is-no-such-thing-as-offloading-policyI would disagree with this very broad statement as having taken pinays to Europe as long as you follow the rules it is OK. Schengen visa helps as they can't offload if you have that a the European country has deemed you to be OK (as you need to have proof financial ability and insurance before the visa is granted). Be with the girl if possible as much easier.
So don't say that as it is too general.
I have seen pinays off loaded at Cebu and Manila but also seen them in Europe and they are are not OFW.
Even saw a LB getting a visa in Cebu for his / her European trip (not his / her first time either). If you had a PM I would tell you more rather than bore everyone here with the details.
Curious, did she ever give it up to him? I imagine he probably pulled every trick in the book working the right person in her family to tell them to get her to give it up or face excommunication. I've seen some Baptist types in my area do just as worse, telling the family that it is in their interests to keep things quiet. Such a shame to take advantage of folks like that.She claimed she never did give it up to him and I believe her after knowing her. He was getting whomever he wanted whenever he wanted very easily with his collar from his flock so no need to threaten. Ask and you shall receive. But she did give to me. Hahaha. Being a good girl mid 30's with a good Job, Dentist, it took a bit of dating to get, I think two meets first and was well worth it. She lived near the Manila Heritage Hotel so I stayed there and she would walk over. We did a few tours together and both of us had fun. I tried to meet her again on a return trip but I think she figured out I was a sex tourist based on my extended length of stays and absences to other areas and that I was not interested in getting married; or maybe she found a better fish in the sea so would not see me again. It was good while it lasted.
She claimed she never did give it up to him and I believe her after knowing her. He was getting whomever he wanted whenever he wanted very easily with his collar from his flock so no need to threaten. Ask and you shall receive. But she did give to me. Hahaha. Being a good girl mid 30's with a good Job, Dentist, it took a bit of dating to get, I think two meets first and was well worth it. She lived near the Manila Heritage Hotel so I stayed there and she would walk over. We did a few tours together and both of us had fun. I tried to meet her again on a return trip but I think she figured out I was a sex tourist based on my extended length of stays and absences to other areas and that I was not interested in getting married; or maybe she found a better fish in the sea so would not see me again. It was good while it lasted.Putting in ground work with civilians often turns out to be a good investment. Way more fun and better results than point and shoot, dump and runs.
I'd agree that getting clocked can truly suck and rapidly puts an end to the fun. I had a girl who stayed with me most of the time I was in Subic once, with me just getting infills occasionally when she was at work. Great girl and truly rocked my world for the price of a couple of breakfasts. She too obviously figured out what was going on and that the "relationship" was going nowhere so when I returned all I got was one sympathy fuck and that's it. 😥.
Enjoy. G.
I agree with your general prognosis. I am checking local hooker sites and I am very dubious of ladies still offering their services. I believe they are desperate and dangerous in many ways (from spreading covid to spiking drinks). I see dubious ads in nearby settled suburban areas, an odd development. The world has gone walkabout. Though having recreational sex is off the menu, the fantasists still lurk.If you skim off the obvious scammers there are '000's of girls online having hard times and would readily show their appreciation for some assistance. I'm not sure why we are not hearing from the local residents. Perhaps they want to keep their secret fishing grounds to themselves?? Either that, or they are struggling to keep their own head above water after drowning in pussy. 😊.
What I wouldn't give to be the last expat standing in Davao, Cebu, Angeles etc.
Enjoy. G.
I think you have made up your mind already so nothing we say is going to make much difference. I've really been trying to see the upside, but honestly can't see any. Is all this hassle worth it for two roots a week?
I can see this going wrong in so many ways and can only end in total disaster.
Firstly, when you are at work, what is this girl going to do? She's going to be stuck in your apartment doing exactly what? She can't go outside because it's too cold, can't speak the language, can't get a job, has no transport, has no friends, can't get Asian food, and it's going to feel like prison for her after the first week. The Arctic Circle is the worst place you can take a Pinay fuck toy. When you get home from work, do you want drama dialed up to 10 each night? It will be a miserable existence for both of you.
Sure, you can get her a lap top and she can do Facebook, watch Korean shows and chat with horny mongers on dating apps. Other mongers will be feeding her information on how they can replace you. Being promiscuous and horny, what happens if she invites Sven or Vladimir from next door to your apartment for some traditional Filipina hospitality while you're out?No I haven't made up my mind, I have considered a Russian or Ukrainian as an alternative. I lived in Kiev for 3 years and married a Ukrainian previously so I'm quite partial to Slavs.
I wouldn't consider this if I was doing my usual rostered on / rostered off jobs but this is residential and while I can I want to get more than 2 roots a week.
Many of the girls are hurting with no likelihood of things changing much for 6 - 12 months. A good allowance plus the chance to see some of the world a weekender here and there) is a reasonable compensation for boredom where at least you are fed every day.
If other mongers want to replace me so what? My outlay is insignificant.
I guess my challenge is to keep her holes filled so she won't be needing a Sven!
WestCoast1
01-26-21, 01:29
SNIP I'm not sure why we are not hearing from the local residents. Perhaps they want to keep their secret fishing grounds to themselves?? Either that, or they are struggling to keep their own head above water after drowning in pussy. What I wouldn't give to be the last expat standing in Davao, Cebu, Angeles etc.G! Not sure what you're talking about. Shhhhh. . .
The ban on marshmallow boys traveling to Flipsville for sex tourism has mongers coming up with all kinds of ridiculous schemes. I have seen plans from a 70-year-old marshmallow grandpa to marry and impregnate a 19-year-old Pinay nincompoop. The aspiring geriatric father would be deceased or a senile invalid before his offspring become teenagers.
Other lecherous schemes doomed to failure involve importing LBFMs to the West or the Arctic Circle in the hopes that they will remain submissive and deliver two roots per week without running off to greener pastures.There are two sides to that coin. What would a 19 year old dim wit would do with no education, poverty, no job prospects? She could date her own age local no gooders, get pregnant (which seems to be a passion in Philippines) and be dirt poor rest of her life. For her even a old marshmallow with money looks better. Whether he impregnates her or it is a local boy who will definitely do is an open question. Old marshmallow definitely knows this and do not care. Where else in the world he will get to dip his dick in non pro girl except in Philippines?
I always say enjoy Philippine girls in their own country and leave them there.
PedroMorales
01-29-21, 11:27
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9198041/Women-cheating-boyfriends-husbands-women-share-stories.html
This seems to be the new or not so new thing: women cheating on you with women. I have met a few lesbians, all types. One wanted me to bar fine her on Perimeter Rd; her GF was a gogo danmcer, all very understandable with marshamallows and over sexed trike drivers after them. A Pattaya provider (a few actually) told me about respectable Westerners hiring them and wanting to stick dildoes in them. Non flyer.
I now good looking women who used to go to the West Indies for a black kebab. Scandinavian women have been doing the same in West Africa for decades. Marshmallows have lost their lure.
A sahrink (who was into BDDSM) told me lesbians do some funky stuff. Who is to know?
This seems to be the new or not so new thing: women cheating on you with women. I have met a few lesbians, all types. One wanted me to bar fine her on Perimeter Rd; her GF was a gogo danmcer, all very understandable with marshamallows and over sexed trike drivers after them. A Pattaya provider (a few actually) told me about respectable Westerners hiring them and wanting to stick dildoes in them. Non flyer.Happened in Sabang all the time:
I've reported on the pole dancer who would share her past partners, never her current (when sober) or only offer anal (when drunk). Never straight guy-girl vag.
Pre the Chinese invasion numerous Euro backpackers would turn up and bar hop. Many girls reported being barfined only to see the boyfriend locked outside when they got back to the room.
Enjoy. G.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9198041/Women-cheating-boyfriends-husbands-women-share-stories.html
This seems to be the new or not so new thing: women cheating on you with women. I have met a few lesbians, all types. One wanted me to bar fine her on Perimeter Rd; her GF was a gogo danmcer, all very understandable with marshamallows and over sexed trike drivers after them. A Pattaya provider (a few actually) told me about respectable Westerners hiring them and wanting to stick dildoes in them. Non flyer.
I now good looking women who used to go to the West Indies for a black kebab. Scandinavian women have been doing the same in West Africa for decades. Marshmallows have lost their lure.
A sahrink (who was into BDDSM) told me lesbians do some funky stuff. Who is to know?Seen it numerous times even among the Pinays that work outside the Philippines. No telling how many times I've seen them all gathered together, and there are a few of the more "Mannish" looking ones guarding the feminine ones and when I ask I get told the story of who they really are and the relationship status between the two. It seems they know just as well as some of the guys that if they have someone that can make a little money from someone ese it's better to let that play out.
That in a way is much preferable to the other type of the "Alpha Female" who runs the whole pack of women in her group and doesn't let them hang with any other males or the females seem to feel a debt of responsibility to make sure that the Alpha female's desires come first; i.e. if she says it's time to go they have to leave or they will not go further with you unless the Alpha female gets something out of it.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9198041/Women-cheating-boyfriends-husbands-women-share-stories.html
her GF was a gogo danmcer, all very understandable with marshamallows and over sexed trike drivers after them. A Pattaya provider (a few actually) told me about respectable Westerners hiring them and wanting to stick dildoes in them. Non flyer.When I was working in AC opposite one of my apartments a few local girls would hang out in the gate opposite. They were nice, polite. They knew I had a Filipina GF and thy also saw the procession of girls that would visit when the GF was away. Of course I would say to the girls Hello, but things could of course get complicated quickly if you play too close to home. I got talking the the sweetest one who turned out to be a dancer at a bar. She even added me on her 'fake' facebook profile. I visited her at the bar and shared a few drinks and cuddles in the safety of the bar. A few days later the more butch girl was always with her whenever I approached socially. They had an interesting arrangement, the sweet one can fuck customers for money but chatting socially was frowned upon. It was even more complicated as the dominant leso was also the caretaker at my complex. I wisely decided not to pursue the sweet one or the leso.
I did however fuck one of their fb friends. Small consolation.
PedroMorales
02-08-21, 09:42
Having just taken part in the world wide Jerusalema challenge with my fancy footwork and unique flamenco turns, I am surprised Pinays have not yet joined the band. Me obviously apart, the sexiest so far are the Sri Lankans and Arubas. Australians really need to diet more.
Women, of course, love dance as it is simulated seduction and sex. The song, sung in Zulu, is the Christian yearning for Zion, for a return to where they belong. This would be perfect for Pinay hookers, bemoaning the loss of the mongers and wishing for their return and that of their wheelchairs.
To give you a feel of what it is about, here are Canadian Catholics at it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43V0KdTbqxI Not the best be ut part of a billion plus hit wave.
Where are Pinay hookers when needed?
NicFrenchy
02-26-21, 03:30
Living in Bangkok so not sure this applies but here goes.
Met this Pinay in Bangkok and I must say, WOW what a change to most Thai ladies.
First, I can have a conversation with her in English without any misunderstandings. Don't have to explain myself for a word that she misunderstood and is upset about (due to lack of Vocabulary).
Second, she is coming from a family that does not need money, she always wants to pay her half and buys me gifts left and right.
Last, the sex is mind blowing. She's the definition of an energizer bunny, very high libido.
She's just a fuck buddy, she knows we won't ever be serious. Sorta FWB if you will.
My worry: she said she wants my child, that I won't have to do anything, claim the child or pay any child support. I was shocked and left.
She's been apologizing, saying she was just saying this but not serious.
I'm inclined to RUN, but we go to the same fitness club. Sometimes I feel I attract the psychos.
I guess my question is, how scared should I be? (didn't wear a condom but never finished inside, and she's on her period now so she's not pregnant).
Mr Enternational
02-26-21, 04:16
My worry: she said she wants my child, that I won't have to do anything, claim the child or pay any child support. I was shocked and left.I am the one usually telling the girls that; thanks to my handy dandy vasectomy.
Nice Guy 99
02-26-21, 05:47
She's the definition of an energizer bunny, very high libido.
She said she wants my child, that I won't have to do anything, claim the child or pay any child support.
I'm inclined to RUN, but we go to the same fitness club.
Same fitness club? The deal is sealed. Impregnate her and marry her. I know many who have done the same and most are very happy.
WestCoast1
02-26-21, 05:47
SNIP
My worry: she said she wants my child, that I won't have to do anything, claim the child or pay any child support. I was shocked and left.
SNIP
I'm inclined to RUN, but we go to the same fitness club. Sometimes I feel I attract the psychos. I guess my question is, how scared should I be? (didn't wear a condom but never finished inside, and she's on her period now so she's not pregnant).You need to do nothing. If she's not preggers, just stay away (and kindly let her know that you want it this way). Alternatively, should you sex her later, strap up some latex.
Living in Bangkok so not sure this applies but here goes.
Met this Pinay in Bangkok and I must say, WOW what a change to most Thai ladies.
First, I can have a conversation with her in English without any misunderstandings. Don't have to explain myself for a word that she misunderstood and is upset about (due to lack of Vocabulary).
Second, she is coming from a family that does not need money, she always wants to pay her half and buys me gifts left and right.
Last, the sex is mind blowing. She's the definition of an energizer bunny, very high libido.
She's just a fuck buddy, she knows we won't ever be serious. Sorta FWB if you will.
My worry: she said she wants my child, that I won't have to do anything, claim the child or pay any child support. I was shocked and left.
She's been apologizing, saying she was just saying this but not serious.
I'm inclined to RUN, but we go to the same fitness club. Sometimes I feel I attract the psychos.
I guess my question is, how scared should I be? (didn't wear a condom but never finished inside, and she's on her period now so she's not pregnant).On the positive side it's common for pinas to want a half white baby and for them to raise them alone once the father disappears.
On the negative side is a pina gone psycho is not a pretty sight. Being in LOS she won't have the same resources to fire against you as if she was in MNL but it still wouldn't be good. Do you have an image conscious job there? A wife and expensive pending divorce?
Depending on your position:
Option 1: She continues being a fuckbudy with no further demands nor expectations (unlikely) until she gets bored and moves on.
Option 2: You get her pregnant, continue to fuck her until you separate severing ties to her and your kid. Unlikely that she will be ok with no compensation and many will say a prick act on your part.
Option 3: she gets pregnant and goes nuts demanding support, love and compensation. See above. How much heartache will this cause you?
Happens a lot.
Not just with Filipinas but with also other girls. Difference is that I have seen many Filipinas who actually support the child but do not put as much social pressure as western girls for marriage or child support. I think more because of racism against them than lack of effort. Socially more acceptable for a westerner to walk away from child responsibilities if the girl is non white.
I have seen French girls go both way. Walk away without commitment or start WWIII and trash the guy socially and professionally.
I think it boils down to your personal philosophy. Do you feel OK holding her to her word and have no responsibility? Or are you in a position to skip a night out every fortnight and send the money you would have spent to her and help with expenses? Even better if you are in a position to get the child a passport from your country.
I have so far been successful in avoiding having to make that choice by declining the numerous offers I have received over the years. I have also maintained self control whenever put in a situation that could lead to that situation. I have stopped girls who start riding me while I am still asleep.
In short, I think the decision is less dependent on what she will do and more in what you want to do and can live with. You see around you the results of guys walking away. (Since you are in Thailand) It is a very personal choice.
Living in Bangkok so not sure this applies but here goes.
Met this Pinay in Bangkok and I must say, WOW what a change to most Thai ladies.
First, I can have a conversation with her in English without any misunderstandings. Don't have to explain myself for a word that she misunderstood and is upset about (due to lack of Vocabulary).
Second, she is coming from a family that does not need money, she always wants to pay her half and buys me gifts left and right.
Last, the sex is mind blowing. She's the definition of an energizer bunny, very high libido..
Nice Guy 99
02-26-21, 19:43
Option 1: She continues being a fuckbudy with no further demands nor expectations (unlikely) until she gets bored and moves on.
Option 2: You get her pregnant, continue to fuck her until you separate severing ties to her and your kid. Unlikely that she will be ok with no compensation and many will say a prick act on your part.
Option 3: she gets pregnant and goes nuts demanding support, love and compensation. See above. How much heartache will this cause you?Option 4: The are many indicators in NicF's OP that indicate this girl is not a WG and has means of support. Marry her, have children and be happy. (This option is sometimes (I would say often) successful, but under reported on ISG. I know dozens of Caucasian men who are very happily married to Asian women. Some of these women were WGs).
My worry: she said she wants my child, that I won't have to do anything, claim the child or pay any child support. I was shocked and left.I am sure I have heard this from a few different filipina. It's a next sign in a career and will keep her provincial parents busy.
You just have to tell her you are not interested in kids. Maybe you have already kids, or sadly like me, my kids are usually older than my filipina.
I did have one filipina who would not permit the use of condoms as it's God's wish if I am the one to get her pregnant. I just made sure I did not cum inside her.
I don't think your girl was genuinely serious.
Chocha Monger
02-26-21, 23:36
Option 3: she gets pregnant and goes nuts demanding support, love and compensation. See above. How much heartache will this cause you?It is amazing how mongers can fuck hundreds of hookers, yet remain completely clueless to female wiles. Obviously, the most likely outcome is Option 3. A Pinay with a good job, social status and independent means is not looking to make herself a pariah just to birth a big-nosed half-white bastard. Such offspring will attract all kinds of attention back in her barangay. Once her compatriots discover that the white father did a pump and dump, they will ridicule him for cruelty and stinginess. Then they will spend every day telling her that the foreigner took advantage of her and she was stupid to allow it. Unlike Filipino men who are permitted to impregnate and evacuate, white men are expected to buy at least a house and lot for their half-Flip bastards.
Women say anything when they want to secure the seed of their preferred target. She will quickly forget all of declarations of impregnation without obligation once the deed is done. She is only saying that crazy stuff because she believes that the monger is a soft target who will shoulder the responsibility for his bastard without her having to ask. If the monger does not want to become a daddy, he must stop fucking her immediately and run away. Find a new fitness club.
In Flip culture, the giver of gifts does so to create a debt on the part of the receiver. This debt may be called in at any time in the future. Therefore, the refusal to donate sperm and further solidify the relationship will spawn bad feelings. This Pinay is a scorned woman now, good for the fucking but not good enough for the breeding.
Run monger! Run away!
NicFrenchy
02-27-21, 09:02
Thanks for the answers guys, much appreciated.
1. She is not a working girl, she has a decent job in Bangkok and never asked me for any money.
2. She's coming to an age where it's time to have children (mid 30).
3. She's not happy with any ex-BF enough to marry and have kids.
I told her I am not a fan of kids, don't like them or want them, and even if she absolves me of all responsibilities, it's not the way to bring a child into the world. I mean, the little gargoyle should at least have the opportunity to have 2 parents.
She said she understands and accepts my decision.
She was not happy knowing I'm also on Tinder chatting with other girls, and asked me "what are we? Oh my. I don't want a GF (I'm already taken), so we just meet for fun or not at all.
She said she's going to go back to actively looking for a potential husband.
She said she's going to go back to actively looking for a potential husband.So it was "Option 1: She continues being a fuckbudy with no further demands nor expectations (unlikely) until she gets bored and moves on. ".
You've done well.
It sucks when a good thing draws to its inevitable close.
G.
Engine Driver
02-27-21, 10:06
Thanks for the answers guys, much appreciated.
1. She is not a working girl, she has a decent job in Bangkok and never asked me for any money.
2. She's coming to an age where it's time to have children (mid 30).
3. She's not happy with any ex-BF enough to marry and have kids.
I told her I am not a fan of kids, don't like them or want them, and even if she absolves me of all responsibilities, it's not the way to bring a child into the world. I mean, the little gargoyle should at least have the opportunity to have 2 parents.
She said she understands and accepts my decision.
She was not happy knowing I'm also on Tinder chatting with other girls, and asked me "what are we? Oh my. I don't want a GF (I'm already taken), so we just meet for fun or not at all.
She said she's going to go back to actively looking for a potential husband.Filipinas are obsessed with children. It does not cost much to raise an extra kid or two in the slums and there's always plenty of Titas and Ates around to share the childcare load. It's like you or me wanting to get a kitten for our girlfriends back in RWML. A tin of tuna, a bag of kitty litter and a bowl of milk are not going to cost much.
Filipinas have no knowledge of birth control, have no access to contraceptives and have 400 years of Catholic Church doctrine to adhere to. Therefore, every kid that pops out is indeed a gift from God. And I'm talking about the college educated ones.
I'm currently chatting to a 30 year old, "college educated" MILF with three kids. You're probably thinking why would a 350 pound, chrome domed, pock marked Quasimodo like me drop his standards like this? I normally chase 23 year old spinners. Let me assure you that if it wasn't for her totally hot, root worthy body and her mouth made in heaven for BBBJ, I would not be entertaining her hahaha.
Now this chick is borderline lower middle class as she doesn't quite live in a timber shack in slum town. Her father owns a car. She works as a beautician at the mall and I would think she earns around 10,000 peso a month plus commission on product sales. She's outsourced the care of her youngest two kids to her Tita and her eldest kid lives with her ex-BF. I don't know if all three kids are from the same father, but I assume they're not. Now this lady, despite not having the resources to look after her three kids, wants a fourth one. From me! Hahahahahaha. A kid with a foreigner monger seals the deal from her perspective.
I'm not sure how she anticipates this all working out. I think she wants me to fly to her city, make her pregnant, and then take her, the three kids from two previous boyfriends, plus our big nosed, half caste bastard all back to RWML. An instant Brady Bunch. Yes I can hardly wait. I shall make the visa arrangements right now and order the Toyota people mover while I'm at it. Hahahahahahaha.
This conversation with this MILF has 1 day to run before I pull the plug. Filipinas are the biggest fuckin' idiots on the planet.
Mr Enternational
02-27-21, 17:17
Maybe you have already kids, or sadly like me, my kids are usually older than my filipina.What the hell is so sad about that?
Mr Enternational
02-27-21, 17:30
It is amazing how mongers can fuck hundreds of hookers, yet remain completely clueless to female wiles. Obviously, the most likely outcome is Option 3. A Pinay with a good job, social status and independent means is not looking to make herself a pariah just to birth a big-nosed half-white bastard.
She is only saying that crazy stuff because she believes that the monger is a soft target who will shoulder the responsibility for his bastard without her having to ask. Exactly!
If the monger does not want to become a daddy, he must stop fucking her immediately and run away. Find a new fitness club.
Run monger! Run away!Run for what? Stand strong! I wish a bich WOULD think she is about to punk me into running away. I have had the same phone number for the last 21 years. I stay easy to find, because I am never lost.
Mr Enternational
02-27-21, 17:34
She was not happy knowing I'm also on Tinder chatting with other girls, and asked me "what are we? My girlfriend in the Philippines keeps asking me the same thing, and I keep telling her that we are people.
Filipinas are obsessed with children. It does not cost much to raise an extra kid or two in the slums and there's always plenty of Titas and Ates around to share the childcare load. It's like you or me wanting to get a kitten for our girlfriends back in RWML. A tin of tuna, a bag of kitty litter and a bowl of milk are not going to cost much.
Filipinas have no knowledge of birth control, have no access to contraceptives and have 400 years of Catholic Church doctrine to adhere to. Therefore, every kid that pops out is indeed a gift from God. And I'm talking about the college educated ones.
I'm currently chatting to a 30 year old, "college educated" MILF with three kids. You're probably thinking why would a 350 pound, chrome domed, pock marked Quasimodo like me drop his standards like this? I normally chase 23 year old spinners. Let me assure you that if it wasn't for her totally hot, root worthy body and her mouth made in heaven for BBBJ, I would not be entertaining her hahaha.
Now this chick is borderline lower middle class as she doesn't quite live in a timber shack in slum town. Her father owns a car. She works as a beautician at the mall and I would think she earns around 10,000 peso a month plus commission on product sales. She's outsourced the care of her youngest two kids to her Tita and her eldest kid lives with her ex-BF. I don't know if all three kids are from the same father, but I assume they're not. Now this lady, despite not having the resources to look after her three kids, wants a fourth one. From me! Hahahahahaha. A kid with a foreigner monger seals the deal from her perspective.
I'm not sure how she anticipates this all working out. I think she wants me to fly to her city, make her pregnant, and then take her, the three kids from two previous boyfriends, plus our big nosed, half caste bastard all back to RWML. An instant Brady Bunch. Yes I can hardly wait. I shall make the visa arrangements right now and order the Toyota people mover while I'm at it. Hahahahahahaha.
This conversation with this MILF has 1 day to run before I pull the plug. Filipinas are the biggest fuckin' idiots on the planet.All of what you said is true except ' Filippinas are the biggest fucking idiots '. In order to get to better life they will do anything.
You maybe smarter to avoid the trap but just think of many gullibles who fall for this. I have seen many philippina girls have done this and have been successful.
Nobody can blame them. We all try to better our life.
As for our benefit if you can play the game you get to fuck young normal non callgirls irrespective of your age. Where else in the world you can do that?
Nice Guy 99
02-27-21, 19:20
Thanks for the answers guys, much appreciated.
She said she's going to go back to actively looking for a potential husband.Good for her!
I think this confirms my assessment that she would be an Option 4 candidate, but, as that seems to be something you don't want, I guess that option is not viable. Were I you, NicF, respectfully, I would reexamine my life goals to ensure you are heading in the right direction.
Run for what? Stand strong! I wish a bich WOULD think she is about to punk me into running away. I have had the same phone number for the last 21 years. I stay easy to find, because I am never lost.True.
The moment the girls have something to hold over you then that's when you are truely fucked and open to be pressured or coerced. That's why guys that are supposedly hiding that they are married or their true identities are the ones who should be worried. Go in with a IDGAF attitude and the girls have nothing to hold over you. 👍.
Pinaypounder
02-28-21, 02:51
Living in Bangkok so not sure this applies but here goes.
Met this Pinay in Bangkok and I must say, WOW what a change to most Thai ladies.
First, I can have a conversation with her in English without any misunderstandings. Don't have to explain myself for a word that she misunderstood and is upset about (due to lack of Vocabulary).
Second, she is coming from a family that does not need money, she always wants to pay her half and buys me gifts left and right.
Last, the sex is mind blowing. She's the definition of an energizer bunny, very high libido..The woman is being sincere in my opinion. Filipinas want kids I don't fully understand why but I know that they want one. She was likely 100% serious about not making you pay, but a good man would not knowingly create a child then abandon it in my opinion.
Many friends and acquaintances there have told me that they want a child from a decent DNA specimen, many have had spawn from Men they know were married. I have always admonished them and told them a child needs two parents, but all classes of women seem to think that just a mom is good enough and having 2 parents is not even a goal. I guess one could consider this to be a pragmatic approach but if you observe how Filipino males interact with women there you can see the damage done.
They want a child and that is that. Most of them don't even raise their kids as we know took me a few years to understand that, its an economic thing, but oddly when they want a child it is super easy to find a man to provide the seed.
95% of them do not even pursue Child support which oddly Filipino law supports. THEY simply want a child. I guess it provides a sense of need?
Kids in the West are certainly more work and require a far greater investment of time and resources.
I have not yet gotten snipped but with regulars I do like the 3 month Birth Control injection.
I find it all so odd in a "Catholic" country and I used to judge them rather harshly for their actions now I just simply wonder why.
The lady you met is not a pyscho just selfish in our western view I mean most of us try to raise kids with a mom and dad and most of us try to be fathers even thought the courts here in canuck land are a farce.
Be careful try not to contribute to new unfathered children karma is a *****.
PP.
Mr Enternational
02-28-21, 13:22
Many friends and acquaintances there have told me that they want a child from a decent DNA specimen,And how would they know this? I can't see in my mind a bunch of Filipinas going around testing and analyzing people's DNA. And even then, it is not to say their child will receive particular traits.
The woman is being sincere in my opinion. Filipinas want kids I don't fully understand why but I know that they want one. She was likely 100% serious about not making you pay, but a good man would not knowingly create a child then abandon it in my opinion.Be careful what you wish for, you might just get it. As I said before, I know someone who did have a kid by a Pinay, and things were cool at first then the "Inner Pinay" inside her rose to the surface and she cut all times with the father even though he was supporting the kid and sending money to her family while she had the bright idea for a career change to the Middle East to work the clubs. Poor dude is heart broken over it, and she is driving a wedge between the kid and the dad just because of her insecurities / madness. Even worse, her own family thinks she is crazy since by doing this she has not only cut off the kid from financial support, but that the extended family was raising the kid while the mother floats around and as a result, that monthly money for school, supplies, etc. Is no longer flowing to the PI so they are screwed over as well.
You never know what you are dealing with, even with non-working girls but just be careful and walk away from this one.
What the hell is so sad about that?When my filipina twiglet asks me the age of my kids and they are all older than her. Some people may find that sad.
When I'm working in country I always maintain that my GF is of university age and sadly when they graduate that means they have to move on.
Pinaypounder
03-03-21, 22:59
Be careful what you wish for, you might just get it. As I said before, I know someone who did have a kid by a Pinay, and things were cool at first then the "Inner Pinay" inside her rose to the surface and she cut all times with the father even though he was supporting the kid and sending money to her family while she had the bright idea for a career change to the Middle East to work the clubs. Poor dude is heart broken over it, and she is driving a wedge between the kid and the dad just because of her insecurities / madness. Even worse, her own family thinks she is crazy since by doing this she has not only cut off the kid from financial support, but that the extended family was raising the kid while the mother floats around and as a result, that monthly money for school, supplies, etc. Is no longer flowing to the PI so they are screwed over as well.
You never know what you are dealing with, even with non-working girls but just be careful and walk away from this one.I would never knowingly impregnate a Filipina unless I love her truly and want a child also. And then if I was ever that stupid I would consult this group for a proper ***** slap. Soon I will be helping an Orphanage there and I know the place has too many orphans and way way way to many single moms.
One of the sadnesses of the country.
PP.
I would never knowingly impregnate a Filipina.Your statement has me asking not just you, but how many ISG members have actually been told by a Filipina that she is now pregnant and we are the father?
I can count for 1.
Soapy Smith
03-21-21, 03:46
how many ISG members have actually been told by a Filipina that she is now pregnant and we are the father?Who's we? Are all of us the father? If we all chip in a little each month, it wouldn't be too much of a burden for any one of us.
Nightrider1
03-21-21, 09:48
Who's we? Are all of us the father? If we all chip in a little each month, it wouldn't be too much of a burden for any one of us.I have had a few tell me they were preggy and I was the father. Then I have to tell them I had a vasectomy 39 years ago when my youngest of 5 was born, and that I had prostrate cancer and that was removed 15 years ago. Of course then I have to explain what a vasectomy and a prostrate is. LOL,.
I have had a few tell me they were preggy and I was the father. Then I have to tell them I had a vasectomy 39 years ago when my youngest of 5 was born, and that I had prostrate cancer and that was removed 15 years ago. Of course then I have to explain what a vasectomy and a prostrate is. LOL,.Thanks for the sensible contribution to the discussion. Glad to hear you are still going strong.
I'm sure some of these girls have no idea how they got pregnant. Perhaps it's wishful thinking that it's the foreigner.
Chocha Monger
03-21-21, 13:57
I have had a few tell me they were preggy and I was the father. Then I have to tell them I had a vasectomy 39 years ago when my youngest of 5 was born, and that I had prostrate cancer and that was removed 15 years ago. Of course then I have to explain what a vasectomy and a prostrate is. LOL,.Those wily LBFMs knew that you could not possibly be the father because you were shooting just a tiny puff of powder. They were hoping that you would be a big ole largemouth bass on the hook for supporting their little bastards. More often than not, the father is the Filipino boyfriend or husband who spends more time fucking them than you do. These LBFMs are not just sitting on their pussies waiting for the old foreigner to fly in and root them a few times a year. If you are getting claims of pregnancy during the pandemic, you must have the longest cock in the world.
MutantChicken
03-21-21, 21:42
Those wily LBFMs knew that you could not possibly be the father because you were shooting just a tiny puff of powder. They were hoping that you would be a big ole largemouth bass on the hook for supporting their little bastards. More often than not, the father is the Filipino boyfriend or husband who spends more time fucking them than you do. These LBFMs are not just sitting on their pussies waiting for the old foreigner to fly in and root them a few times a year. If you are getting claims of pregnancy during the pandemic, you must have the longest cock in the world.Seems to me these girls are simply playing a game of pin the tail (blame) on the biggest (dumb) ass they met, IE the guy most likely to believe them based on who seemed the most gullible. I can't believe street smart local fuckboys would fall that scam.
Pinaypounder
03-21-21, 22:53
Your statement has me asking not just you, but how many ISG members have actually been told by a Filipina that she is now pregnant and we are the father?
I can count for 1.I have been told 2 times I have been a father there. 1 disappeared and 1 "lost" them twin boys no less, that cheating piece of shit.
Need to get a vasectomy's for sure!
PP.
If you are getting claims of pregnancy during the pandemic, you must have the longest cock in the world.Funny you should say that. Last month I did have a Filipina's baby named after me or else she has a new BF with the same name as me. Given that the borders have been shut for a year this time I know I'm not the father. I don't know why she would do that or even if her husband knows the nod in that name.
Funny you should say that. Last month I did have a Filipina's baby named after me or else she has a new BF with the same name as me. Given that the borders have been shut for a year this time I know I'm not the father. I don't know why she would do that or even if her husband knows the nod in that name.You mean you did not send your sperm through western union?
What's the other choice if you're having virtual sex but still want CIM.
You mean you did not send your sperm through western union?
Those wily LBFMs knew that you could not possibly be the father because you were shooting just a tiny puff of powder. They were hoping that you would be a big ole largemouth bass on the hook for supporting their little bastards. More often than not, the father is the Filipino boyfriend or husband who spends more time fucking them than you do. These LBFMs are not just sitting on their pussies waiting for the old foreigner to fly in and root them a few times a year. If you are getting claims of pregnancy during the pandemic, you must have the longest cock in the world.That situation happens more than you would believe. An old story that seems unreal but actually true since I was close a close buddy to the guy who told it to me, back in our Navy days (early 2000's) he told me of a Sailor who worked for him who was all shook up and was trying to get a divorce from his Pinay wife he met in Japan (we were stationed there then). Sailor A married the Pinay but also living in Japan with her was her "cousin" and of course him feeling like a Superman was glad to help out the family and didn't mind the cousin staying with them. One day husband came home to find his wife and her "cousin" in the middle of sex, when finally the moment of truth came out and he wasn't her "cousin" but actually her husband. Now Sailor was trying to get the marriage annulled and was having a hard time at it.
Same buddy, different Sailor, he had another chap spend tons of money on a buy me drink girl, to the point he was bringing her on base and taking her grocery shopping for her and her son he thought. This guy asked her to marry him and gave her a $10 K ring, and plus a hefty sum to send to her family back in the PI. She finally had a moment of truth and told the guy she couldn't marry him she was already married to a Navy guy in the same location. What was probably just as bad for that chap was he never slept with her, she would use the "I have to go home to my son" or "I don't want to bring other men around him" card and like a guppy he believed. My buddy had won the lottery on guys who fell victim to such women. Just made for great sea stories to tell.
Engine Driver
03-22-21, 07:04
That situation happens more than you would believe. An old story that seems unreal but actually true since I was close a close buddy to the guy who told it to me, back in our Navy days (early 2000's) he told me of a Sailor who worked for him who was all shook up and was trying to get a divorce from his Pinay wife he met in Japan (we were stationed there then). Sailor A married the Pinay but also living in Japan with her was her "cousin" and of course him feeling like a Superman was glad to help out the family and didn't mind the cousin staying with them. One day husband came home to find his wife and her "cousin" in the middle of sex, when finally the moment of truth came out and he wasn't her "cousin" but actually her husband. Now Sailor was trying to get the marriage annulled and was having a hard time at it.Nah, that can't be true. Filipinas are the most the honest, God-fearing, loyal and faithful women on the planet. They can all recite Matthew 5:27–28. Just ask all the love struck Romeos on this board!
This guy asked her to marry him and gave her a $10 K ring, and plus a hefty sum to send to her family back in the PI. She finally had a moment of truth and told the guy she couldn't marry him she was already married to a Navy guy in the same location. Did he end up swallowing the engagement ring and hanging himself in the cupboard like Sid Worley did when Lynette turned down his marriage proposal?
Mr Enternational
03-22-21, 11:15
One day husband came home to find his wife and her "cousin" in the middle of sex, when finally the moment of truth came out and he wasn't her "cousin" but actually her husband. Now Sailor was trying to get the marriage annulled and was having a hard time at it.Under US law the marriage would have been automatically annulled if you found out the person was already married. Maybe if all parties were citizens of other countries or the couple that got caught fucking were not legally married this story could be true. Even still it is easy to get a divorce. You just file the paperwork and go in front of a judge. Nothing complicated or hard time about it.
Same buddy, different Sailor, he had another chap spend tons of money on a buy me drink girl, to the point he was bringing her on base and taking her grocery shopping for her and her son he thought. This guy asked her to marry him and gave her a $10 K ring, and plus a hefty sum to send to her family back in the PI.Either this story is not real or the guy was already rich. I was in the navy and my friends that are still in are captains with between 25-30 years of service right now. A $10,000 ring would not be in anyone's vocabulary. When I first went in in 1990 an enlisted salary started at $669 per month. MFs would go buy $300 boom boxes that they could not pay off. A $10,000 ring and sending hefty sums to PI? Definitely scuttlebutt.
MutantChicken
03-23-21, 00:28
Either this story is not real or the guy was already rich. I was in the navy and my friends that are still in are captains with between 25-30 years of service right now. A $10,000 ring would not be in anyone's vocabulary. When I first went in in 1990 an enlisted salary started at $669 per month. MFs would go buy $300 boom boxes that they could not pay off. A $10,000 ring and sending hefty sums to PI? Definitely scuttlebutt.Whilst I agree with your point generally, I wouldn't be so fast to call scuttlebut as for all we know the buddy could have been O-10 grade, earning 16 k a month, or he was the type to save every penny of his salary eating and living on base only to spend money on his honey. He could also be one of those mf who beg, borrow or steal to try and impress women.
Regardless of the factual accuracy, the original point made by drbombay was that there are simps out there who will do all these things only to be outdone by the "trike driving" local. We don't need to go very far than to look at this very same forum to see examples of this.
Under US law the marriage would have been automatically annulled if you found out the person was already married. Maybe if all parties were citizens of other countries or the couple that got caught fucking were not legally married this story could be true. Even still it is easy to get a divorce. You just file the paperwork and go in front of a judge. Nothing complicated or hard time about it.
Either this story is not real or the guy was already rich. I was in the navy and my friends that are still in are captains with between 25-30 years of service right now. A $10,000 ring would not be in anyone's vocabulary. When I first went in in 1990 an enlisted salary started at $669 per month. MFs would go buy $300 boom boxes that they could not pay off. A $10,000 ring and sending hefty sums to PI? Definitely scuttlebutt.It could be done. Not to get into too much detail on the guy, but he was one of those who always stayed on the ship, never spent any money and probably wisely kept any re-enlistment bonuses he received. It is quite possible for an E5/ E6 to save up money and buy a $10 K ring. Also remember, dude probably put it on credit and if you were in the Navy you know there was always a lender willing to lend as long as you gave a copy of your LES.
As for the other case, sure the rules are as you said, but having had to try to get a Sailor married to a Pinay who had overstayed her visa in Japan and they were looking at the Navy to get her cleared, you would be surprised at home many difficult cases there are out there in regards to not being right on paper. If a woman can get black balled from Western Union in receiving money, it's not that hard to believe one could marry a guy from one country and still be married to another from another.
Nah, that can't be true. Filipinas are the most the honest, God-fearing, loyal and faithful women on the planet. They can all recite Matthew 5:2728. Just ask all the love struck Romeos on this board!
Did he end up swallowing the engagement ring and hanging himself in the cupboard like Sid Worley did when Lynette turned down his marriage proposal?Nope but a veil was lifted off of his eyes and he saw what a fool he had been. I know those stories sound too far fetched to be true, but things like that happen. Not just with Pinays but heck look at all of those cases one hears about the Russian brides who come to America and then all of a sudden there's more to her story than was initially told.
Whilst I agree with your point generally, I wouldn't be so fast to call scuttlebut as for all we know the buddy could have been O-10 grade, earning 16 k a month, or he was the type to save every penny of his salary eating and living on base only to spend money on his honey. He could also be one of those mf who beg, borrow or steal to try and impress women.
Regardless of the factual accuracy, the original point made by drbombay was that there are simps out there who will do all these things only to be outdone by the "trike driving" local. We don't need to go very far than to look at this very same forum to see examples of this.At MutantChicken: so true. I remember seeing in one of these forums the story of the guy who supposedly dropped one girl thinking he had found someone new and she had her foreign boyfriend on tap the whole time. Most of the women that are hustlers will find some way to come out ahead. Not all Pinays are like that, but those that are will come out one way or another.
Chocha Monger
03-23-21, 04:16
That situation happens more than you would believe. An old story that seems unreal but actually true since I was close a close buddy to the guy who told it to me, back in our Navy days (early 2000's) he told me of a Sailor who worked for him who was all shook up and was trying to get a divorce from his Pinay wife he met in Japan (we were stationed there then). Sailor A married the Pinay but also living in Japan with her was her "cousin" and of course him feeling like a Superman was glad to help out the family and didn't mind the cousin staying with them. One day husband came home to find his wife and her "cousin" in the middle of sex, when finally the moment of truth came out and he wasn't her "cousin" but actually her husband. Now Sailor was trying to get the marriage annulled and was having a hard time at it.Did the sailor let the "cousin" get his nut and finish fuck his wife when he caught them on the down stroke? Was the sailor sure that the "cousin" was not really a "cousin" and the Pinay was just lying about him being her husband due to the awkward situation? Incest is very common in the Philippines due to close living quarters. Male and female relatives routinely sleep in the same bed. More often than not, cousins and uncles deflower Pinays in their youth long before their first tryst with the trike driver boyfriend.
Mr Enternational
03-23-21, 04:28
I know those stories sound too far fetched to be true, but things like that happen.Dude the truth is stranger than fiction.
Nah, that can't be true. Filipinas are the most the honest, God-fearing, loyal and faithful women on the planet. They can all recite Matthew 5:2728. Just ask all the love struck Romeos on this board!At Engine Driver I'm hoping that sarcasm you're talking.
From another one of my "sea stories" from my wonderful Navy years in the Far East, at one of the Navy bases in Japan there had been a few cases of visa overstays and other shenanigans where folks from a particular country had somehow managed to break the local immigration rules. So one day my CO put a call out, if you have anyone in your house that shouldn't be here come forth now so we can help get the paperwork right or you're in trouble. I had a few persons come forth, some who were more senior and should have known better that had their in-laws and other relatives from the wife living with them in base housing which wasn't authorized and these folks had been signed onto the base months before but never left since their immigration paperwork was by then expired. Funny most of them came from the PI who had that situation. Just as we see folks stream into the USA and run an end around on our own immigration and residency laws, some folks from other countries do the same thing and you'd be surprised at how many can get away with it.
What's the other choice if you're having virtual sex but still want CIM.This is more like CIP for her to get pregnant.
Dude the truth is stranger than fiction.If you think my two stories are strange, one of these days meet with some of the folks who work in Embassy's or have to deal with immigration process and the stories that they can tell you about the cases they have seen about what people try to pass by them in order to get into the good old USA. There are just as many far fetched and unbelievable but true stories that would put some of the Lurker tales here to shame.
Mr Enternational
03-23-21, 18:22
If you think my two stories are strange, one of these days meet with some of the folks who work in Embassy's or have to deal withWhen I was working on my masters my international law professor was a lawyer that had a friend working at the US embassy in Bangkok. For whatever reason, his wife was in the States. They were at some kind of function when his American wife found out about his Thai wife. I had not been to Asia yet, but now that I have, I completely understand the story and it sounds pretty normal.
He also told us about a client that got busted for something coming through US Customs. They did not say anything to the guy at the time, they just sent him a bill in the mail. He then bargained with them for a lower fine.
So those of you that prefer going with "normal" girls and not those that actually want you to pay for the sex.
Well ok, we all know you have to pay somehow LOL, nothing is free, you'll have to take them to a date or w / e.
But what is usually your approach with these girls from tinder / DIA etc?
Do you just outright tell them that you don't want anything serious or are you going with the white lies approach?
Mr Enternational
03-24-21, 01:26
So those of you that prefer going with "normal" girls and not those that actually want you to pay for the sex.
Well ok, we all know you have to pay somehow LOL, nothing is free, you'll have to take them to a date or w / e.
But what is usually your approach with these girls from tinder / DIA etc?
Do you just outright tell them that you don't want anything serious or are you going with the white lies approach?There is no approach. You just talk to them the same way you have talked to females you were interested in since elementary school.
OldSchool318
03-24-21, 01:48
There is no approach. You just talk to them the same way you have talked to females you were interested in since elementary school.To me this is the mongering game and the game with chicks in general. Just go have fun and talk to them and see what adventure happens and have a good fn time!
Engine Driver
03-24-21, 07:11
So those of you that prefer going with "normal" girls and not those that actually want you to pay for the sex.
Well ok, we all know you have to pay somehow LOL, nothing is free, you'll have to take them to a date or w / e.
But what is usually your approach with these girls from tinder / DIA etc?
Do you just outright tell them that you don't want anything serious or are you going with the white lies approach?You asked a bunch of questions in 2102 and then you asked a bunch of questions in 2017. So did you actually go mongering in the Philippines or do you just like asking questions?
You asked a bunch of questions in 2102 and then you asked a bunch of questions in 2017. So did you actually go mongering in the Philippines or do you just like asking questions?Sounds like I went to the past and then to the future, I must be a man of many skills.
Does it really matter to you if I went to mongering in Philippines or not?
Are you trying to determine if we are pussy brothers?
I'm amazed you actually bothered to check my post history.
Wicked Roger
03-24-21, 22:14
Sounds like I went to the past and then to the future, I must be a man of many skills.
Does it really matter to you if I went to mongering in Philippines or not?
Are you trying to determine if we are pussy brothers?
I'm amazed you actually bothered to check my post history.Post history reviewing is something I do when I see questions from a poster with between 1-20 posts and / or questions that a RTFF can answer. And yes ED is right you ask lots but not actually FR if / when you go.
Had you RTFF and read the news you would know the current situation here. In fact a quick review of hotels combined, Agoda hotels.com etc would answer one question. A review of some Philippine news web sites can help with the other for example.
A closer RTFF (say 15 minutes) and up would of popped answers to Tinder, DIA, FP etc. Plenty advice about lies, truth (even from me!
And as Mr E said you talk to them normally.
So when the country is open and Covid is not as rampant here (as it is in India, Brazil, USA etc) then RTFF. But for now I suggest you re focus the questions on a board that allows foreigners to visit and has limited Covid (example could be Antartica).
MutantChicken
03-25-21, 00:40
Sounds like I went to the past and then to the future, I must be a man of many skills.
Does it really matter to you if I went to mongering in Philippines or not?
Are you trying to determine if we are pussy brothers?
I'm amazed you actually bothered to check my post history.You are amazed? You must easily be amazed as that action took 2 seconds and involved a few mouse clicks. I'm sure people don't care if you are a pussy brother, but you seem to forget that your questioning and peoples answers are a courtesy not a entitlement, and your questions come across as more of a demand. Personally I see that there is a large number of posters who I call one-handed basement trolls, who whilst never having mongered in a particular country nor will they ever, decide to come online and post a whole bunch of questions or posts opinions / commentary about things they actually never had first hand knowledge about. Might be a way to alleviate boredom, satisfy their ego and / or of having some relevance and value or they are simply coming here posting and looking at pics whilst practicing onanism. I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks you belong in one of those categories and thus explains peoples response to you.
WestCoast1
03-25-21, 04:54
You asked a bunch of questions in 2102 and then you asked a bunch of questions in 2017. So did you actually go mongering in the Philippines or do you just like asking questions?
Sounds like I went to the past and then to the future, I must be a man of many skills. Does it really matter to you if I went to mongering in Philippines or not?
Are you trying to determine if we are pussy brothers? I'm amazed you actually bothered to check my post history.Well its bottom of the 9th, and DC seems to have whiffed. Yes sir, it does matter if you went or didn't. Persons who ask questions, then don't post informative field reports, are considered as: Takers, not givers. Feeding at the public trough, without giving back. Post us up a solid report of your experiences when you went to Phils: Airline comforts / costs. Hotel / Condo where you stayed and its approximate costs. Where you found girls, restaurants, or anything else relevant to the gents for their upcoming (post-Covid) trips.
Engine Driver
03-26-21, 00:47
Sounds like I went to the past and then to the future, I must be a man of many skills.
Does it really matter to you if I went to mongering in Philippines or not?
Are you trying to determine if we are pussy brothers?
I'm amazed you actually bothered to check my post history.No one is travelling to the Philippines for mongering at the moment due to Covid border closures. While you are stuck in your basement office working from home on your IT project, you may wish to watch a few re-runs of ***********.com or FuckySucky.com. These will prepare you for your eventual visit to the Philippines as this how those Pinay hookers are like in real life. Trike Patrol has a 50% stimulus sale on at the moment to kick-start the Philippines economy.
When I was working on my masters my international law professor was a lawyer that had a friend working at the US embassy in Bangkok. For whatever reason, his wife was in the States. They were at some kind of function when his American wife found out about his Thai wife. I had not been to Asia yet, but now that I have, I completely understand the story and it sounds pretty normal.
He also told us about a client that got busted for something coming through US Customs. They did not say anything to the guy at the time, they just sent him a bill in the mail. He then bargained with them for a lower fine.There are strange, but true stories all over.
Friend of mine living here in Bangkok, was telling me about a husband and wife back in Germany.
It seems that the couple desperately wanted a child, but the husband was sterile.
Instead of going to a reproductive clinic, they enlisted the help of their neighbor, who was happy to oblige.
After banging the guy's wife for a couple of months, with no pregnancy, it was discovered that the neighbor had a vasectomy years ago.
Engine Driver
03-26-21, 12:10
The trouble with marrying Asian women is that very few have any intellectual curiosity. That is, they don't know what they don't know and never want to find out. Everything is dumbed down to them and they can't see beyond their home and family. Parents, siblings, kids, house, car, handbags and then the foreign dick – in that order. They have absolutely no interest in anything else. This includes Thais, Filipinas and Indonesians. Perhaps even Japanese. They are quite content to live in a vacuum, blow their husbands money, while not wanting to better themselves, improve their knowledge and become worldly. The only group which has a thirst for knowledge and wants to better itself are the Chinese. I guess that's how they have dominated most of the Asian countries for the past 1,000 years and now the West. There is no end to their ambition.
I do know a half-Filipina here. Despite her upper class education at Ateneo de Manila, her intellect is at the Aussie senior high school level here. Nothing wrong with that as the Aussie blokes only want a tight pussy on a small 40 kg frame. Pfft, they are not chasing Filipinas for simulating social intercourse, only sexual intercourse. Hahaha.
MutantChicken
03-26-21, 17:02
The trouble with marrying Asian women is that very few have any intellectual curiosity. That is, they don't know what they don't know and never want to find out. Everything is dumbed down to them and they can't see beyond their home and family. Parents, siblings, kids, house, car, handbags and then the foreign dick in that order. They have absolutely no interest in anything else. This includes Thais, Filipinas and Indonesians. Perhaps even Japanese. They are quite content to live in a vacuum, blow their husbands money, while not wanting to better themselves, improve their knowledge and become worldly. The only group which has a thirst for knowledge and wants to better itself are the Chinese. I guess that's how they have dominated most of the Asian countries for the past 1,000 years and now the West. There is no end to their ambition.
I do know a half-Filipina here. Despite her upper class education at Ateneo de Manila, her intellect is at the Aussie senior high school level here. Nothing wrong with that as the Aussie blokes only want a tight pussy on a small 40 kg frame. Pfft, they are not chasing Filipinas for simulating social intercourse, only sexual intercourse. Hahaha.What you say is true, but this is my observation so I question the value of intellectual curiosity in a wife / partner. I have many male friends who are married to fellow pharmacists and lawyers. The guys who are financially successful earning 200 k+, their wives all quit working after the birth of their first child. The guys who earn a "mere" 100 k, their wives still work but begrudge the husbands for having to continue to work. So tell me why is it that important to have a wife who is well educated with a career when more than likely they will stop working if you are sufficiently wealthy, why not get a uneducated wife who will value you more as she knows she needs you. Its a fact that as women become more educated the higher the divorce rate.
I have always found talking to other men more enjoyable as you don't have to deal with the feminists' perspective. Example you are telling about a confrontation you had which led to a physical altercation. You can imagine what a buddy would say vs a female. But ill bet my last dollar that if this women was being threatened she would be the first to demand that you fight for her. So intellectual curiosity, improving knowledge, being more worldly, ill pass. I find many university educated western people stupid, I can't imagine how much smarter a intellectually curious Filipina could get.
...They have absolutely no interest in anything else. This includes Thais, Filipinas and Indonesians. Perhaps even Japanese. They are quite content to live in a vacuum, blow their husbands money, while not wanting to better themselves, improve their knowledge and become worldly. The only group which has a thirst for knowledge and wants to better itself are the Chinese. I guess that's how they have dominated most of the Asian countries for the past 1,000 years and now the West. There is no end to their ambition.
The pointlessness of ambition has been drummed into them for generations. Most realise that they will never significantly better their lot in life because they don't have the required high powered business or family connections. They are the casualties or corruption and nepotism, not the beneficiaries, they always will be and they know it. Why put in the effort / aspirations if it's just wasted?
Conversely the Chinese have milenias history of putting in the effort to become the town / country / global business elite.
Cheers. G.
Chocha Monger
03-27-21, 17:22
The trouble with marrying Asian women is that very few have any intellectual curiosity. That is, they don't know what they don't know and never want to find out. Everything is dumbed down to them and they can't see beyond their home and family. Parents, siblings, kids, house, car, handbags and then the foreign dick in that order. They have absolutely no interest in anything else. This includes Thais, Filipinas and Indonesians. Perhaps even Japanese. They are quite content to live in a vacuum, blow their husbands money, while not wanting to better themselves, improve their knowledge and become worldly. The only group which has a thirst for knowledge and wants to better itself are the Chinese. I guess that's how they have dominated most of the Asian countries for the past 1,000 years and now the West. There is no end to their ambition.
I do know a half-Filipina here. Despite her upper class education at Ateneo de Manila, her intellect is at the Aussie senior high school level here. Nothing wrong with that as the Aussie blokes only want a tight pussy on a small 40 kg frame. Pfft, they are not chasing Filipinas for simulating social intercourse, only sexual intercourse. Hahaha.A Pinay is a life support system for a tight pussy on a 40 kg frame. That is all those women have to offer. Therefore, they meet the needs of Aussie dudes who require a tight pussy to satisfy their lustful desires. Attempting social intercourse with a life support system for a tight pussy built for sexual intercourse will be very stressful and expensive for the Aussies.
Deep conversations with a Pinay wife revolve around how much of her unlucky husband's money she will transfer to her relatives in the Philippines. The husband must limit his input to recommendations on using Western Union or Moneygram to give away his hard-earned cash or risk pouting and sulking. Many here put up with it as the cost of on-hand BBFSCIP, BBFSCIA, and BBBJCIM / WS.
That situation happens more than you would believe. An old story that seems unreal but actually true since I was close a close buddy to the guy who told it to me, back in our Navy days (early 2000's) he told me of a Sailor who worked for him who was all shook up and was trying to get a divorce from his Pinay wife he met in Japan (we were stationed there then). Sailor A married the Pinay but also living in Japan with her was her "cousin" and of course him feeling like a Superman was glad to help out the family and didn't mind the cousin staying with them. One day husband came home to find his wife and her "cousin" in the middle of sex, when finally the moment of truth came out and he wasn't her "cousin" but actually her husband. Now Sailor was trying to get the marriage annulled and was having a hard time at it.There is a video on YouTube about some women in AC and their work in the sex industry. Of course the makers of the video were of the "this is bad and shame on the men" angle but the stories they showed were interesting. One was of a lady who they had paid to come to their hotel room to interview and of course we got the sob story, plus were treated to her and her kid and the live in boyfriend. But later in the video, it showed her doing internet chatting and making plans to try to move to the USA with a "Brother" to start her new life. Dude knew about the kid, but not about the guy still laying up with her. They showed her planning it all and her Pinoy man was in it all the way. I guess my point is, this stuff happens all the time maybe not as such in the story I have provided but I am sure many of you Lurkers have just as many cases of it happening. Heck I've even been laid up in a bed with a few while their boyfriends call up and ask when they are coming back. It happens but as long as you are aware and ready for it, if that what one wants whom am I to say different.
Plush Tiger
03-29-21, 18:41
That situation happens more than you would believe. An old story that seems unreal but actually true since I was close a close buddy to the guy who told it to me, back in our Navy days (early 2000's) he told me of a Sailor who worked for him who was all shook up and was trying to get a divorce from his Pinay wife he met in Japan (we were stationed there then). Sailor A married the Pinay but also living in Japan with her was her "cousin" and of course him feeling like a Superman was glad to help out the family and didn't mind the cousin staying with them. One day husband came home to find his wife and her "cousin" in the middle of sex, when finally the moment of truth came out and he wasn't her "cousin" but actually her husband. Now Sailor was trying to get the marriage annulled and was having a hard time at it.
Same buddy, different Sailor, he had another chap spend tons of money on a buy me drink girl, to the point he was bringing her on base and taking her grocery shopping for her and her son he thought. This guy asked her to marry him and gave her a $10 K ring, and plus a hefty sum to send to her family back in the PI. She finally had a moment of truth and told the guy she couldn't marry him she was already married to a Navy guy in the same location. What was probably just as bad for that chap was he never slept with her, she would use the "I have to go home to my son" or "I don't want to bring other men around him" card and like a guppy he believed. My buddy had won the lottery on guys who fell victim to such women. Just made for great sea stories to tell.Not in the Philippines but I am in Dubai where there is a large Pinnoy community, and this post was on the front page, so it caught my eye. These dealings are fairly common in places where "poor" girls meet well off foreign men. I'd suggest to anyone visiting Asia (Thailand, Philippines etc.) to to read Warren Olson's Confessions of a Bangkok Private Eye. (https://www.amazon.com/actual-BANGKOK-DETECTIVE-notebooks-Detective/dp/1549512587/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=) It's quite fun and entertaining and gives sobering details about what could happen to unsuspecting tourist / boy friend / future husband meeting their dream girl. One story that really struck me was about this guy who found the perfect bride, a one who wanted to stay virgin till they get married so he sets out to marry her. Somehow, he found that suspicious decides to hire a private. The detective investigated her but cannot find a trace of her in any of the places where he searches for her records (such as wedding registry, birth certificates etc.) he finally found out that the reason she was not register was that she was actually a a transvestite who was waiting to collect enough money for the surgery and then marry the "victim". His family was aware and being more accepting of such things did not find any issue about it. Fortunately for him, the detective found out before. It's a bit romanticized but I believe most stories are based on actual cases as the author claims. In any case anyone going to places like that should read the book. It's entertaining and gives a realistic picture of the dark side of such places, in case we fail to notice it.
Engine Driver
03-30-21, 05:48
Not in the Philippines but I am in Dubai where there is a large Pinnoy community, and this post was on the front page, so it caught my eye. These dealings are fairly common in places where "poor" girls meet well off foreign men. I'd suggest to anyone visiting Asia (Thailand, Philippines etc.) to to read Warren Olson's Confessions of a Bangkok Private Eye. (https://www.amazon.com/actual-BANGKOK-DETECTIVE-notebooks-Detective/dp/1549512587/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=) It's quite fun and entertaining and gives sobering details about what could happen to unsuspecting tourist / boy friend / future husband meeting their dream girl. One story that really struck me was about this guy who found the perfect bride, a one who wanted to stay virgin till they get married so he sets out to marry her. Somehow, he found that suspicious decides to hire a private. The detective investigated her but cannot find a trace of her in any of the places where he searches for her records (such as wedding registry, birth certificates etc.) he finally found out that the reason she was not register was that she was actually a a transvestite who was waiting to collect enough money for the surgery and then marry the "victim". His family was aware and being more accepting of such things did not find any issue about it. Fortunately for him, the detective found out before. It's a bit romanticized but I believe most stories are based on actual cases as the author claims. In any case anyone going to places like that should read the book. It's entertaining and gives a realistic picture of the dark side of such places, in case we fail to notice it.There are many well connected Pinoy private investigators in AC and Cebu who can quickly undertake background checks on your sweethearts before you marry them and take them away to RWML for a life of bliss. They will go through Barangay records, school records, church records (if they exist), marriage records, employment history and social media posts to paint a proper picture of the girl you want to make your wife. It's also important to accurately determine how big her extended family actually is so you know how many mouths to feed and how much to set aside each month for medical bills, birthday parties, school tuition, lechon feasts, weddings and vet fees for the sick buffalos. The extended family members of a Pinay who is married to a white man are known to have more than one birthday a year. These measures may ensure you will not become a victim and end up as a guest on the Filipina Pea's next YouTube video.
Wow, and you have the guts to state that as a fact!Unfortunately, I have some fairly well educated friends back in the states who drank the kool aid as well.
I don't blame them, nor anyone else, for having a different point of view, when it comes to politics. However, when it comes to all of the crazy conspiracy theories we've heard over the past few years, I don't know what to say.
Not in the Philippines but I am in Dubai where there is a large Pinnoy community, and this post was on the front page, so it caught my eye. These dealings are fairly common in places where "poor" girls meet well off foreign men. I'd suggest to anyone visiting Asia (Thailand, Philippines etc.) to to read Warren Olson's Confessions of a Bangkok Private Eye. (https://www.amazon.com/actual-BANGKOK-DETECTIVE-notebooks-Detective/dp/1549512587/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=) It's quite fun and entertaining and gives sobering details about what could happen to unsuspecting tourist / boy friend / future husband meeting their dream girl. One story that really struck me was about this guy who found the perfect bride, a one who wanted to stay virgin till they get married so he sets out to marry her. Somehow, he found that suspicious decides to hire a private. The detective investigated her but cannot find a trace of her in any of the places where he searches for her records (such as wedding registry, birth certificates etc.) he finally found out that the reason she was not register was that she was actually a a transvestite who was waiting to collect enough money for the surgery and then marry the "victim". His family was aware and being more accepting of such things did not find any issue about it. Fortunately for him, the detective found out before. It's a bit romanticized but I believe most stories are based on actual cases as the author claims. In any case anyone going to places like that should read the book. It's entertaining and gives a realistic picture of the dark side of such places, in case we fail to notice it.I have to get that book. Looks like a good read. Unfortunately a similar situation a few years ago ended up with the Ladyboy being killed by a visiting Marine and he was thrown into jail in the PI. After a pick-up at a bar in Subic he took his date to the room where he found out she was a he and he began to beat her. Now I'm not "woke" nor am I a straight up "thumper" but if one side wants us to believe that you can't "pray" the gay away, then the other side has to understand that you can't "try it you'll like it" with those who don't go that way and respect the boundaries. TBH, no need to kill someone for trying to slip one the okey dokey, but I don't see a problem with a knuckle sandwich, just like if I came on too strong to a woman who didn't want to go my way and she kicked me in the nuts then I probably deserved it.
But I would imagine the transvestite's family didn't see it that way, but simply as here's one we can hopefully bank on in the future for cash flow. As they say, there are 8 million stories in the naked city.
Plush Tiger
03-30-21, 16:07
Unfortunately a similar situation a few years ago ended up with the Ladyboy being killed by a visiting Marine and he was thrown into jail in the PI. After a pick-up at a bar in Subic he took his date to the room where he found out she was a he and he began to beat her. Now I'm not "woke" nor am I a straight up "thumper" but if one side wants us to believe that you can't "pray" the gay away, then the other side has to understand that you can't "try it you'll like it" Wow, this is extreme and a bit silly to end up in jail for that. Must have been drunk. Was so simple to slap him for trying to deceive him and walk away. Whenever you visit a foreign country you have to understand that other culture perceive things differently. Pinnoys and Thai people seem not to make a big deal about gays / lesbian / trans. Even in their language there is no he or she but a common pronoun and often here they confuse Madam and Sir. An acquaintance told me that there were about 1/3 of the population was gay / lesbian (not sure about this). In any case I have nothing against gays (on the contrary the more gays the less demand for pussy) but when I date a women I want a women, not fake goods.
There are many well connected Pinoy private investigators in AC and Cebu who can quickly undertake background checks on your sweethearts before you marry them and take them away to RWML for a life of bliss. True, but no PI is needed. We are the friends we keep so John should just look at who she associates with. Do her friends all have real jobs,. Fil families and consider JollieBee and a movie a good night out or are they all hookers done well, married to 80 yo foreigners and always out partying til 4 am? If unsure just watch which new acquaintances talk to her at a social event. Locals will see her status instantly when she walks through the door and if she can only hold a conversation or be spoken to by burnt out Barfield is a sure sign.
Of course, guys who fall in love after 3 weeks online and head over, engagement ring I hand, deserve all they get. As for not even knowing your bride is a guy well 😂.
True, but no PI is needed. We are the friends we keep so John should just look at who she associates with. Do her friends all have real jobs,. Fil families and consider JollieBee and a movie a good night out or are they all hookers done well, married to 80 yo foreigners and always out partying til 4 am? If unsure just watch which new acquaintances talk to her at a social event. Locals will see her status instantly when she walks through the door and if she can only hold a conversation or be spoken to by burnt out Barfield is a sure sign.
Of course, guys who fall in love after 3 weeks online and head over, engagement ring I hand, deserve all they get. As for not even knowing your bride is a guy well.Good point but I will still hire a PI when I move there. Can't be too careful.
Good point but I will still hire a PI when I move there. Can't be too careful.Her trike driver will be able to give you a lot more information about her than any PI ever will.
Engine Driver
04-01-21, 05:35
There are millions of pretty starlets on IG the world over who earn money, handbags and phones in exchange for photos, videos and sex. Take a look at this big bootied Pinay at cmpcha. She has an Alua site for USD $36/ month. Hahahahahaha. Grossly overpriced. She only has 3,500 IG followers, and I am not sure how many subscribers to her private site there actually are. Even if she only has 50 subscribers, that's 90,000 peso a month she's earning for posting a few nude photos or videos. That's a lot easier than working in a bar or fucking smelly, fat foreigners with poor hygiene from Pina Love. And she's earning the same as a surgeon. Hahahahaha. And we call these girls nincompoops?
GoodEnough
04-01-21, 09:16
There are millions of pretty starlets on IG the world over who earn money, handbags and phones in exchange for photos, videos and sex. Take a look at this big bootied Pinay at cmpcha. She has an Alua site for USD $36/ month. Hahahahahaha. Grossly overpriced. She only has 3,500 IG followers, and I am not sure how many subscribers to her private site there actually are. Even if she only has 50 subscribers, that's 90,000 peso a month she's earning for posting a few nude photos or videos. That's a lot easier than working in a bar or fucking smelly, fat foreigners with poor hygiene from Pina Love. And she's earning the same as a surgeon. Hahahahaha. And we call these girls nincompoops?With the difference being that a young surgeon will still be practicing and earning in 30 years, and her shelf life is much more limited.
GE.
Engine Driver
04-01-21, 10:04
With the difference being that a young surgeon will still be practicing and earning in 30 years, and her shelf life is much more limited.
GE.Yes, good point GE. But that big bootied Pinay could end up marrying a nice, handsome surgeon, and move into a beautiful house in Orange County. What a life as the wife of a surgeon she could lead? In fact, a number of surgeons are probably subscribers to her Alua channel, jacking off each night to the sight of her A-grade ass.
Funnier things have happened before. You'd be familiar with one Rose Lacson Hancock Porteous, an impoverished hooker from Bacolod who went to work for Lang Hancock, a billionaire iron ore baron, as his housekeeper. It just so happened that the 80 year old Mr Hancock was widowed and was feeling rather lonely. Rose of Bacolod did not waste anytime ditching her maid's uniform and in jumping into his bed to keep his marshmallow warm. The rest they say is history. Hahaha.
Her trike driver will be able to give you a lot more information about her than any PI ever will.Yes, unless he's doing her. And you know how the Filipinos like to lie. It's up there with karaoke as a national pastime.
MutantChicken
04-01-21, 16:30
With the difference being that a young surgeon will still be practicing and earning in 30 years, and her shelf life is much more limited.
GE.This is a pretty simplistic analysis.
A surgeon is usually in the top 5% intellectually, a female in the top 5% beauty wise would be a supermodel, actress, fitness model etc who BTW out earns a surgeon. A girl in this percentile of beauty wouldn't be one to have a ofans page posting naked pics etc.
A surgeon, after completing his bachelors, going to med school, residency, specialization would be in is mid 30's and has spent 15+ yrs to get where he is to earn this money, how many years has this girl or any girl who uses her beauty to succeed trained to get where she is? Truth is society undervalues intellect and over values beauty.
Surgeons often suffer from stress and a form of PTSD, and cannot work for 30 yrs, most become consultants or teaching surgeons, so the claim that surgeons can work till they 65 is a bit misleading.
The truth is low value men, simps and white knights, guys earning min wage $8/ HR and after working a month clearing 1000 dollars are the target audience for these girls as they think paying 36/ mth so they can live the fantasy that they know this girl personally as she replies to their comments / emails etc. Its these type of men to artificially inflate the value of these girls, so please to imply that these girls are fair market value, is to insult men's intellect.
To rationalize it the way you did using logic is damn insulting to those of us men with a brain.
The truth is low value men, simps and white knights, guys earning min wage $8/ HR and after working a month clearing 1000 dollars are the target audience for these girls as they think paying 36/ mth so they can live the fantasy that they know this girl personally as she replies to their comments / emails etc. Its these type of men to artificially inflate the value of these girls, so please to imply that these girls are fair market value, is to insult men's intellect.The internet options have moved many girls' target away from trying to land a $300 whale face to face to putting on a virtual show for 00's or even 000's without even meeting, let alone fucking.
Hot girls are literally making millions $5 at a time and even cmpcha below would be making a tidy sum. No surprise that girls are now handing out IG adreesses rather than WA numbers and running a mile when a monger says he is in town and ready to meet tonight.
Why fuck one guy for peanuts when you can make a fortune titillating thousands. 😁.
The internet options have moved many girls' target away from trying to land a $300 whale face to face to putting on a virtual show for 00's or even 000's without even meeting, let alone fucking.
Hot girls are literally making millions $5 at a time and even cmpcha below would be making a tidy sum. No surprise that girls are now handing out IG adreesses rather than WA numbers and running a mile when a monger says he is in town and ready to meet tonight.
Why fuck one guy for peanuts when you can make a fortune titillating thousands. 😁.Well from my experience a lot of these girls haven't worked it out. The number who beg to do a cam show for 300 peso so she can get food. Sure there are always some success stories just like there are 30 and 40 year olds that get a guy to give them a house, car, allowance etc. The majority don't get that.
MutantChicken
04-02-21, 07:01
Well from my experience a lot of these girls haven't worked it out. The number who beg to do a cam show for 300 peso so she can get food. Sure there are always some success stories just like there are 30 and 40 year olds that get a guy to give them a house, car, allowance etc. The majority don't get that.No one is claiming all these girls are successful, but whilst they are trying and add the ones that are a "success" IE earn 1000 usd a month, that means a significant number of women are off the P4P market.
https://www.elitereaders.com/emma-martin-sells-fart-videos-online/
Need I say more this old and ugly woman is making 4000 selling fart vids on onlfans.
GoodEnough
04-02-21, 07:04
I'm always somewhat bemused at the tendency of some here to take what was intended as simple humor and turn it into a treatise on logical fallacies. Obviously, my intent was not to compare the arduous training of a surgeon to the total lack thereof of a cam girl.
GE.
This is a pretty simplistic analysis.
A surgeon is usually in the top 5% intellectually, a female in the top 5% beauty wise would be a supermodel, actress, fitness model etc who BTW out earns a surgeon. A girl in this percentile of beauty wouldn't be one to have a ofans page posting naked pics etc.
A surgeon, after completing his bachelors, going to med school, residency, specialization would be in is mid 30's and has spent 15+ yrs to get where he is to earn this money, how many years has this girl or any girl who uses her beauty to succeed trained to get where she is? Truth is society undervalues intellect and over values beauty.
Surgeons often suffer from stress and a form of PTSD, and cannot work for 30 yrs, most become consultants or teaching surgeons, so the claim that surgeons can work till they 65 is a bit misleading.
The truth is low value men, simps and white knights, guys earning min wage $8/ HR and after working a month clearing 1000 dollars are the target audience for these girls as they think paying 36/ mth so they can live the fantasy that they know this girl personally as she replies to their comments / emails etc. Its these type of men to artificially inflate the value of these girls, so please to imply that these girls are fair market value, is to insult men's intellect.
To rationalize it the way you did using logic is damn insulting to those of us men with a brain.
Chocha Monger
04-02-21, 13:39
Her trike driver will be able to give you a lot more information about her than any PI ever will.Yes. The trike driver will know her much more intimately than any private investigator could. Her trike driver will be able to tell her clueless foreign whale how many of the local barangay boys rooted her and just how good she is at BBFSCIP, BBFSCIA, and BBBJCIM / WS. There will be no marriage without her trike driver giving his approval on whether or not the potbellied geriatric foreigner is rich enough to support the extended family and the barangay. Never underestimate her trike driver. It is more important to meet with him than the family.
Well from my experience a lot of these girls haven't worked it out. True, I was only talking about a segment of the market, not everyone. However, it is a growing segment esp amongst the prettier and more savy girls.
Unfortunately it's guys who are enabling its spread.
Enjoy. G.
Never underestimate her trike driver. It is more important to meet with him than the family.Who says the boyfriend, PI and trike driver aren't one and the same. 😳.
PedroMorales
04-03-21, 13:11
There are millions of pretty starlets on IG the world over who earn money, handbags and phones in exchange for photos, videos and sex. Take a look at this big bootied Pinay at cmpcha. She has an Alua site for USD $36/ month. Hahahahahaha. Grossly overpriced. She only has 3,500 IG followers, and I am not sure how many subscribers to her private site there actually are. Even if she only has 50 subscribers, that's 90,000 peso a month she's earning for posting a few nude photos or videos. That's a lot easier than working in a bar or fucking smelly, fat foreigners with poor hygiene from Pina Love. And she's earning the same as a surgeon. Hahahahaha. And we call these girls nincompoops?Surgeons should get boob jobs, Botox in the lips, tatts (neck and back o hands), dye their hair some hideous colour, wear braces, eat Jolibees, wear fake Gucci. Only then could they earn mega bucks.
Surgeons should get boob jobs, Botox in the lips, tatts (neck and back o hands), dye their hair some hideous colour, wear braces, eat Jolibees, wear fake Gucci. Only then could they earn mega bucks.Everyone has their price. Lots of stories of once respectable golfers, housewife's, sports stars etc being tempted across to OnlyFans by the money to be made.
There was a recent thread showing a Filipina's attempt to doctor an university invoice. Just this week there is an article appearing in the local australian press.
I include the article here as Loquias sounds like a Filipino name, certainly the modus operandi seems Filipino.
Fake de facto's court claim delayed family funeral.
A woman has been jailed for her "conniving and manipulative conduct' in claiming she was a late pilot's de facto partner.
A woman who created fake documents to try to prove she was the de facto partner of a dead pilot, to gain control of his funeral and make a claim on his estate, is now behind bars.
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The court heard they were not living together in a genuine domestic relationship, but had occasional sex when Mr Spencer infrequently returned to his Brisbane unit.
Crown prosecutor Noel Needham said they shared no assets, although Mr Spencer had loaned Loquias amounts ranging from $400 to $4500.
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She had provided a jeweller's invoice in both hers and Mr Spencer's names, for two nine-carat gold promise rings, claiming in a sworn affidavit that they were ordered on April 10,2015, when they decided to move in together.
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The jeweller confirmed that the rings were ordered after Jayson Spencer's death — and Loquias had changed details, including dates, on the invoice filed in court.
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The court heard Loquias also doctored a phone bill record, to try to show she and Mr Spencer were joint account holders.
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On Wednesday, Judge Muir sentenced Loquias to 20 months' jail, suspended after five months, with an operational period of three years.
So for doctoring a few records she will get 5 months jail plus be on notice for three years.
IME it is the receiver of documents in Philippines whom need to check authenticity whereas in Australia the courts weigh very heavily on fraud.
You can also see how 'regular' sex and regular monetary support can be manipulated in an attempt to show a relationship.
Engine Driver
04-05-21, 04:59
There was a recent thread showing a Filipina's attempt to doctor an university invoice. Just this week there is an article appearing in the local australian press.
I include the article here as Loquias sounds like a Filipino name, certainly the modus operandi seems Filipino.
Fake de facto's court claim delayed family funeral.
A woman has been jailed for her "conniving and manipulative conduct' in claiming she was a late pilot's de facto partner.
A woman who created fake documents to try to prove she was the de facto partner of a dead pilot, to gain control of his funeral and make a claim on his estate, is now behind bars.
/ snip.
The court heard they were not living together in a genuine domestic relationship, but had occasional sex when Mr Spencer infrequently returned to his Brisbane unit.
Crown prosecutor Noel Needham said they shared no assets, although Mr Spencer had loaned Loquias amounts ranging from $400 to $4500..Pinays are notoriously bad at forgery and they underestimate the intelligence of the average person in RWML. Furthermore, they are not skilled in forensic, investigative techniques. Hahaha. She is lucky her custodial component was not longer than 12 months. If it was, and she was not an Australian citizen, she would have been deported back to her slum in Samar.
This is a pretty simplistic analysis.
A surgeon is usually in the top 5% intellectually, a female in the top 5% beauty wise would be a supermodel, actress, fitness model etc who BTW out earns a surgeon. A girl in this percentile of beauty wouldn't be one to have a ofans page posting naked pics etc...A major difference is ha he super model value declines over time. Even the supermodels of the say 90's are unheard of other than in what happened. Features. Usually he are either living off heir savings / investments or struggling.
A top 5% intellectual man, will have his value increase over time. Even if physical issues arise, here is always teaching or mentoring ha can bring in more cash than actually doing he profession.
Chocha Monger
04-05-21, 23:43
Pinays are notoriously bad at forgery and they underestimate the intelligence of the average person in RWML. Furthermore, they are not skilled in forensic, investigative techniques. Hahaha. She is lucky her custodial component was not longer than 12 months. If it was, and she was not an Australian citizen, she would have been deported back to her slum in Samar.Poor Mr. Spencer! He never imagined returning to his Brisbane flat to have his marshmallow sucked infrequently by this Pinay vixen would lead to complications with his estate and interment. Imagine the shock of his family and colleagues as this wily fox woman recounted the occasional bouts of BBFSCIP, BBFSCIA, and BBBJCIM / WS that she provided to the late formerly respectable Mr. Spencer. Take note, lads! Hahaha!
A major difference is ha he super model value declines over time. Even the supermodels of the say 90's are unheard of other than in what happened. Features. Usually he are either living off heir savings / investments or struggling.
A top 5% intellectual man, will have his value increase over time. Even if physical issues arise, here is always teaching or mentoring ha can bring in more cash than actually doing he profession.Another biggie is that the Only Fans super earners generally started having already derived their fame from somewhere else. Few are at the top simply because of their looks. A big internet presence helps a lot.
Asking Dr Phil to step outside and a successful rap career certainly helped the latest starlet earn $1 mil in 6 hours. She's cute but not a million dollars hot.
G.
Fake de facto's court claim delayed family funeral.
A woman has been jailed for her "conniving and manipulative conduct' in claiming she was a late pilot's de facto partner.
A woman who created fake documents to try to prove she was the de facto partner of a dead pilot, to gain control of his funeral and make a claim on his estate, is now behind bars.Didn't something similar to this happen when the owner / founder of DHL or one of those companies died and he supposedly had women all across the Pacific claiming that they were his heirs and had his kids?
As far as claiming proof, I personally have seen a man trying to convince an Immigration official at a US Embassy in Tokyo with pictures of him and his Pinay girlfriends long term relationship before, but I think he got shot down when her moment of truth came when all of her supposed nieces and nephews were actually her kids and he didn't know.
I guess many of the Pinays beliefs are it's not illegal until you get caught.
Mr Enternational
04-06-21, 04:00
Pinays are notoriously bad at forgery and they underestimate the intelligence of the average person in RWML. You mean like my first time in AC where the guy had a t-shirt that I wanted but I needed a bigger size, so he went around the corner and came back and handed me the same shirt after he wrote a bigger size on the tag with an ink pen?
Engine Driver
04-06-21, 06:31
You mean like my first time in AC where the guy had a t-shirt that I wanted but I needed a bigger size, so he went around the corner and came back and handed me the same shirt after he wrote a bigger size on the tag with an ink pen?Yes, and the really stupid Pinays keep sending us pictures of IV drip bottles they've found on the internet. No actual picture of the cannula attached to said Pinay's hand though. Hahaha. I think that's to get us to believe they've just had a coronary bypass at the age of 21, and desperately need financial assistance.
I've had other Pinays plead with me for urgent food money, claiming that they are only "eating" water for lunch and dinner as they are so poor. One said they are going to die of starvation soon. A quick check on IG and TikTok reveals they are partying at some beach hut in Cebu with bottles of Tanduay lined up next to the usual dinner buffet. No doubt paid for by lonely Bob from Alaska. Once I tell them I only give money when we meet, they block me! Hahahahaha. Do I look concerned? Only 345, 629 hookers left to fuck for 1,500 peso a pop.
SethMacfarlane
04-06-21, 13:43
Didn't something similar to this happen when the owner / founder of DHL or one of those companies died and he supposedly had women all across the Pacific claiming that they were his heirs and had his kids?
As far as claiming proof, I personally have seen a man trying to convince an Immigration official at a US Embassy in Tokyo with pictures of him and his Pinay girlfriends long term relationship before, but I think he got shot down when her moment of truth came when all of her supposed nieces and nephews were actually her kids and he didn't know.
I guess many of the Pinays beliefs are it's not illegal until you get caught.I believe those kids ended up getting a nice chunk of change. There's a Doc about it, Shadow Billionaire. Great watch.
Didn't something similar to this happen when the owner / founder of DHL or one of those companies died and he supposedly had women all across the Pacific claiming that they were his heirs and had his kids?
As far as claiming proof, I personally have seen a man trying to convince an Immigration official at a US Embassy in Tokyo with pictures of him and his Pinay girlfriends long term relationship before, but I think he got shot down when her moment of truth came when all of her supposed nieces and nephews were actually her kids and he didn't know.
I guess many of the Pinays beliefs are it's not illegal until you get caught.I think DNA proved DHL founder fathered 3 or more kids from underaged girls. They got quite a settlement. Big news on WSJ back then. There was no fake documents then, just a claim and backed up with DNA results.
I've had other Pinays plead with me for urgent food money, claiming that they are only "eating" water for lunch and dinner as they are so poor. One said they are going to die of starvation soon. A quick check on IG and TikTok reveals they are partying at some beach hut in Cebu with bottles of Tanduay lined up next to the usual dinner buffet. No doubt paid for by lonely Bob from Alaska. Once I tell them I only give money when we meet, they block me! Hahahahaha. Do I look concerned? Only 345, 629 hookers left to fuck for 1,500 peso a pop.I've seen so many on sites like MeetMe and Tagged where the first thing they say to you is "I need a spin" to pay for something vital. Then I look at their IG and see the latest birthday party they are throwing for their Tita with a full spread of all types of food, and about 20 folks gathered around and yet they are supposedly "down to their last peso. ".
The trouble with marrying Asian women is that very few have any intellectual curiosity. That is, they don't know what they don't know and never want to find out. Everything is dumbed down to them and they can't see beyond their home and family. Parents, siblings, kids, house, car, handbags and then the foreign dick in that order. They have absolutely no interest in anything else. This includes Thais, Filipinas and Indonesians. Perhaps even Japanese. They are quite content to live in a vacuum, blow their husbands money, while not wanting to better themselves, improve their knowledge and become worldly.
Those who choose to sit still will see the world idly pass them by. I've come across so many women like this. They live in a small bubble and know nothing of the world around them. Pretty sad IMO.
Engine Driver
04-07-21, 07:27
Covid has really brought out the worst in Pinay behaviour. An inherently dishonest bunch of people to start with, they have now been turned into A-grade criminals. Why is every Pinay sneaky and deceitful? When she opens her mouth there is a 50% chance she will be lying, even when there's nothing to gain. Whenever I see the headlines for an immigration scam, cam show blackmail, a fake wedding for a visa, forgery, a murder of an old white man in RWML, theft of a business, theft of land or of secret illegitimate children hidden in the provinces and multiple trike driver boyfriends, I automatically assume there's a Pinay behind it. Further reading of the article merely confirms that my assumption is correct 90% of the time. This behaviour is not limited to the slum dwelling class. The elite are no different, but on an exponentially exaggerated scale as they have more choices and more loot to steal. An expensive education does not buy a good moral compass. I'm sure that Scamming 101 is a compulsory unit at freshman classes at UP Diliman.
HighFlying
04-13-21, 18:32
Just getting out of a horrible long terms relationship in the USA. Always wanted an Philippino girl but there hard to find. When the COVID stuff is over I'm just going to quit looking in the states and go straight to the source. Here's where I need the honest answer. I looked at numerous videos, forums, googled everything you can think of. Heard some good answers and bad answers. When I go (notice I said when LOL) is it hard for a black American to get these Philippino girls? Seen a lot that say there really only after white guys. Well guess I'm asking will a black man from the USA have as good of a chance of banging a hot Philippino as the next guy. That being money and for free of course. Thanks in advance.
Engine Driver
04-13-21, 23:15
Just getting out of a horrible long terms relationship in the USA. Always wanted an Philippino girl but there hard to find. When the COVID stuff is over I'm just going to quit looking in the states and go straight to the source. Here's where I need the honest answer. I looked at numerous videos, forums, googled everything you can think of. Heard some good answers and bad answers. When I go (notice I said when LOL) is it hard for a black American to get these Philippino girls? Seen a lot that say there really only after white guys. Well guess I'm asking will a black man from the USA have as good of a chance of banging a hot Philippino as the next guy. That being money and for free of course. Thanks in advance.You will not have any problem. If one girl says no, there will be plenty that say yes. The only thing that counts in the Philippines is the size of your wallet and how many blue notes (1,000 peso) you have. Filipinas have been fucking black men from Clark AFB and Subic Naval Base from the Vietnam war days. They love the black American culture; especially hip hop, street fashion and basketball. They will be concerned about the size of your BBC, but just reassure them that you won't be tearing their assholes open with your weapon. Hahahaha.
The more money you take, the better time you will have.
Just getting out of a horrible long terms relationship in the USA. Always wanted an Philippino girl but there hard to find. When the COVID stuff is over I'm just going to quit looking in the states and go straight to the source. Here's where I need the honest answer. I looked at numerous videos, forums, googled everything you can think of. Heard some good answers and bad answers. When I go (notice I said when LOL) is it hard for a black American to get these Philippino girls? Seen a lot that say there really only after white guys. Well guess I'm asking will a black man from the USA have as good of a chance of banging a hot Philippino as the next guy. That being money and for free of course. Thanks in advance.Like anything else some like black men and some do not. Having said that white men also have the same problem. Assuming Angeles city bars open, the girls there will go with anybody for money. Maybe not the high end dancers. Gone are the days when girls are eagerly waiting for barfine. Everyone's experience is unique. There cannot be generalizations.
Mr Enternational
04-14-21, 01:14
Just getting out of a horrible long terms relationship in the USA. Always wanted an Philippino girl but there hard to find. No they are not. California is full of them.
is it hard for a black American to get these Philippino girls? Seen a lot that say there really only after white guys. Well guess I'm asking will a black man from the USA have as good of a chance of banging a hot Philippino as the next guy. That being money and for free of course.I am a Black American and I have been getting free ones for 31 years and paid ones for 13 years. Women are women.
I think DNA proved DHL founder fathered 3 or more kids from underaged girls. Larry Hillblom, the H in DHL, was an attorney and a judge in the unincorporated US territory of Saipan. Apparently he was a pedophile who believed that having virgins would save him from AIDS. His helicopter crashed with no survivors, no witnesses, and no bodies recovered fueling speculation that the accident was staged because his life style was coming under scrutiny from the authorities.
Further, he left no will and no heirs. However children came forward from disparate parts of Asia who claimed that Larry was their papa. He left behind no DNA to test the veracity of their claims. So they tested the DNA of the children and found them to be related. The probate court drew the inference that the children had a common father and the only possible explanation for this was that Hillblom was the father. The kids became fabulously wealthy and the dumb schmuck lawyer who was assigned to execute the will became a millionaire.
No they are not. California is full of them.
I am a Black American and I have been getting free ones for 31 years and paid ones for 13 years. Women are women.Filipina women in California are just like all the other [Deleted by Admin]. If you find a good one you are very, very lucky.
Just getting out of a horrible long terms relationship in the USA. Always wanted an Philippino girl but there hard to find. When the COVID stuff is over I'm just going to quit looking in the states and go straight to the source. Here's where I need the honest answer. I looked at numerous videos, forums, googled everything you can think of. Heard some good answers and bad answers. When I go (notice I said when LOL) is it hard for a black American to get these Philippino girls? Seen a lot that say there really only after white guys. Well guess I'm asking will a black man from the USA have as good of a chance of banging a hot Philippino as the next guy. That being money and for free of course. Thanks in advance.I'm a Black man and have not had any problems. In person or online. The way you can tell you will have success with a Pinay (or any Asian woman you may meet at a bar) is simple. If you go into a place that has a mixed crowd (Black and White and other races) the odds are that they will go for White guys. If you go to a place that is a known hang out for Blacks and they are there, then you will most likely come up. These days, as long as you can pay to play they don't mind what color you are. As long as you treat them respectfully, as with any race of women you may be able to come up. If a trip to the PI is too far, then either head to Vegas, or Honolulu and walk around the clubs and bars and you will come up with one. In the old days, San Diego was the Pinay Mecca due to so many having come over from their Navy husbands / foamily members. If you live near any large military bases and there are places to hang out there, go there and eventually you will run into one.
Just getting out of a horrible long terms relationship in the USA. Always wanted an Philippino girl but there hard to find. When the COVID stuff is over I'm just going to quit looking in the states and go straight to the source. Here's where I need the honest answer. I looked at numerous videos, forums, googled everything you can think of. Heard some good answers and bad answers. When I go (notice I said when LOL) is it hard for a black American to get these Philippino girls? Seen a lot that say there really only after white guys. Well guess I'm asking will a black man from the USA have as good of a chance of banging a hot Philippino as the next guy. That being money and for free of course. Thanks in advance.Know many pinay who go with black men. Not just from US but from the source. Some of the pinay work overseas and help their social network or on the ground black boy friends financially. Kind of puzzles me. So, fat wallet is not necessary. Maybe a silver tongue is just as productive.
Chocha Monger
04-14-21, 22:56
Larry Hillblom, the H in DHL, was an attorney and a judge in the unincorporated US territory of Saipan. Apparently he was a pedophile who believed that having virgins would save him from AIDS. His helicopter crashed with no survivors, no witnesses, and no bodies recovered fueling speculation that the accident was staged because his life style was coming under scrutiny from the authorities.
Further, he left no will and no heirs. However children came forward from disparate parts of Asia who claimed that Larry was their papa. He left behind no DNA to test the veracity of their claims. So they tested the DNA of the children and found them to be related. The probate court drew the inference that the children had a common father and the only possible explanation for this was that Hillblom was the father. The kids became fabulously wealthy and the dumb schmuck lawyer who was assigned to execute the will became a millionaire.Larry aka Shadow Billionaire received a lot of attention for his mongering due to his wealth, social status, and mysterious death / disappearance. However, it is common for many lesser mongers to leave behind unclaimed little bastards on their sex tourism forays into Southeast Asia and Micronesia. This is the natural result of decades of wanton BBFSCIP over the course of the career of habitual mongers. Apart from the accidental impregnations, some mongers have an impregnation fetish and intentionally breed the girls. Some gain notoriety in the mongering community. Occasionally, a journalist comes along and dedicates a few lines to the tragedies they left behind.
Nice Guy 99
04-15-21, 19:30
Always wanted an Philippino girl but there hard to find. Here's where I need the honest answer. Is it hard for a black American to get these Philippino girls? Well guess I'm asking will a black man from the USA have as good of a chance of banging a hot Philippino as the next guy. That being money and for free of course. Thanks in advance.OK. You need to learn a few things. First call them pinays, that's female, pinoy is male. "Money and for free" shows that you don't understand the Fillipino and Asian culture. They greatly value money and stability. My experience is that they don't think of themselves as prostitutes, and I agree. It is very likely that you can get a lovely pinay to have sex with you if you provide reasonable money and security. Resist expansive demands to support the family. Pinays are lovely and easily fall in love. They generally love sex in all forms. The majority I have been with love to swallow cum and love to receive (and give) uninhibited oral sex. They will be intrigued by the idea that you, as as a sterotypical a Black man, have a huge cock and will brag to their GFs about how they take this anaconda no matter what your size. So yes, pinays are well worth the effort. The only better Asians I have had are Chinese. Good luck. Report back. Post pics and vids.
So yes, pinays are well worth the effort. The only better Asians I have had are Chinese. Wow. That's a big call.
Everyone is welcome to their own preferences but I've found pinays much better at GFE while the Chinese better at performing task lists for pay. That they actually receive training on what to do rather than just watch porn and gossip also helps. Red Ropes and Fire and Ice BJs jump to mind.
Many will disagree but I've found Vietnamese that travel the same. They will perform their job to the best of their ability as long as they are paid well. Conversely, I didn't enjoy Vietnamese in Vietnam.
Note that I'll have to admit that my sample size for China is much smaller than PI.
Enjoy. G.
Engine Driver
04-16-21, 04:04
The Duke of Edinburgh told a nurse from the Philippines that her country must be "half empty" - because so many of her compatriots have come to the UK to work for the NHS.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-21519917
HighFlying
04-16-21, 15:37
Thanks everyone for the great advice especially nice guy 99, bushes, drbombay, mr enternational, engine driver, and sammon. The advice really means a lot to me. I now know a little about these pinay (LOL). I live on the eastern seaboard and where I'm at there isn't a lot of pinay here. I was nervous about going because of the language barrier but have found out most speak English. I have been researching a lot including asking my father that was stationed there a long time ago. When I told him I was planning to go he said you want some of that brown ass over there don't you lmao. He told me about the "shit river" that they threw coins into and kids would go in and get the coins. I'm not sure what base that used to be tho. I'm also afraid to go over because I've had yellow fever for a long time. I'm scared I'll pull a Harlem nights over there. (put your momma on the phone!! I'm never coming back home LMMFAO) but I truly do understand fuck them and forget them aspect of the Philippines. What about he the Covid-19 aspect of things. When do you guys think everything over there will return to normal? I was trying to go hopefully later this year or next year. It's not really the money issue I've had that saved up before COVID started around February / March of 2020. It's the COVID issue. Also what do you guys suggest I do in the meantime. I've read it's good to start with them with the dating apps or what not a month or so before you go. Or is it just the same as showing up and take your pick of who you want to pound out. I wasn't sure the pinay liked black guys because of the size thing too. Glad that is now out of the way. Also read these girls love anal also. Tell me this isn't true? I may not be coming back to the states. LOL. Last thing when I go how much money would you guy recommend I take with me? Thanks again for the help guys. Really appreciate it.
The Duke of Edinburgh told a nurse from the Philippines that her country must be "half empty" - because so many of her compatriots have come to the UK to work for the NHS.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-21519917I know a lot folks will clutch their pearls and need to lay down on the fainting couch with the vapors once they find out about this, but he was just an old man making an observation. I've wondered myself how can a nation send so many of it's productive folks all over the world to do jobs and work instead of keeping them at home making money there.
Wow. That's a big call.
Everyone is welcome to their own preferences but I've found pinays much better at GFE while the Chinese better at performing task lists for pay. That they actually receive training on what to do rather than just watch porn and gossip also helps. Red Ropes and Fire and Ice BJs jump to mind.
Many will disagree but I've found Vietnamese that travel the same. They will perform their job to the best of their ability as long as they are paid well. Conversely, I didn't enjoy Vietnamese in Vietnam.
Note that I'll have to admit that my sample size for China is much smaller than PI.
Enjoy. G.Interesting, I found most Chinese providers strictly about the clock and money. When time is up, time is up whether you are finished or not. Must admit I have not been in any GFE with a Chinese so their other half I'm not too sure about.
For Vietnamese, the younger ones who travel and work are about the money and will give you a good time, but be aware, the closer they are to "model looking" the more they are too worried about messing up their hair and makeup if not for a long time so a short time will be so / so. Best to find a middle aged one who is looking for someone to provide GFE. They give the best IMO. Never been to Vietnam to see how they are at home but I'm sure they have their differences.
Nice Guy 99
04-16-21, 18:46
Thanks everyone for the great advice
OK. First of all you will not have a good experience based on your current attitude. You must realize that these girls are people. PLEASE treat them with respect.
The so called "shit river" is just outside the gate of the former US base at Subic Bay. It is part of Olongapo.
The Philippine government is slow to react. They will be one of the last places to open.
Chatting on apps will be amusing but not necessary for fucking. Best to contact sex partners when you arrive. Be bold. Tell them that you are in country and you want to fuck them, plus whatever else you want. Be clear.
Tell them that you are Black and have a huge cock that will give them unimaginable pleasure. They won't be able to resist.
Also read these girls love anal also. Tell me this isn't true? I may not be coming back to the states. LOL. Last thing when I go how much money would you guy recommend I take with me? Thanks again for the help guys. Really appreciate it.It doesn't matter what you are into you will find girls to accommodate in PI. Just don't expect every girl to entertain every kink. If it's a deal breaker for you just be upfront before money is paid or she heads over. Or you could just go with the flow and see what happens. I and many others have had some awesome surprise sessions.
Budgets depend on your tastes. ST with the a street walker can be had for 1000 p. An all nighter and drinks with a Burgos honey will be well north of $200.5 k per day would see you well fed with a couple of online girls per day.
If you want to get a taste you can go online now but just be aware of Pinays notorious reputation for promising the world, not delivering and no shows. Promises to meet for wild times after Covid clears mean nothing. Requests for Load or cash are a given. Making contact when you are actually in country or even better in town has a much higher conversion rate.
Unfortunately, I don't see an improvement in access for a while yet. PM a couple of in country members to get a feel for the current restrictions. They are pretty severe and don't look like improving very soon.
Enjoy. G.
WestCoast1
04-16-21, 21:25
Tell them that you are Black and have a huge cock that will give them unimaginable pleasure. They won't be able to resist.Alternately, he will scare the crap out of the girls.
Or is it just the same as showing up and take your pick of who you want to pound out. I wasn't sure the pinay liked black guys because of the size thing too. Glad that is now out of the way. Also read these girls love anal also. Tell me this isn't true? I may not be coming back to the states. LOL. Last thing when I go how much money would you guy recommend I take with me? Thanks again for the help guys. Really appreciate it.I was going to PM you my thoughts on these items, but you don't have PM function. Please consider to pay up a $20 membership and get PM; its worth it.
Covid restart. Vaccine shortages currently, and later there will be missteps and mishandling of things (scandals and cost over-runs, no different than other countries). Start thinking 2022 or beyond (just guessing). Manila continues to roll thru blooms of cases and deaths; hence the recent spates of strict lock down conditions recently reported.
You might not want to go home after you spend a few weeks here (so I've been told). Regardless of color or size (or bar girls, street girls, dating site girls, chat apps, FB meetups, swipe-right, or whatever), the snatch seems to sneak right up on your Johnson.
WC
Engine Driver
04-16-21, 23:52
I've read it's good to start with them with the dating apps or what not a month or so before you go. Or is it just the same as showing up and take your pick of who you want to pound out. I wasn't sure the pinay liked black guys because of the size thing too. Glad that is now out of the way. Also read these girls love anal also. Tell me this isn't true? I may not be coming back to the states. LOL. Last thing when I go how much money would you guy recommend I take with me? Thanks again for the help guys. Really appreciate it.There is not much point in chatting with any girls now unless you are stuck in your mom's basement in Detroit, waiting for your stimulus check and totally bored out of our skull. Buy 1 month's membership to a dating app like Pina Love 2-weeks before you go. That way, you will also have 2-weeks coverage while in country. This app will then provide you with more tight Pinay pussy than your 10-inch anaconda can ever handle. The vast majority of girls on those dating sites are dirt poor, slum dwellers in desperate financial strife. If you chat with them now, they will constantly hit you up for money. They will try and sell you cam shows, nude pics and videos and will send you the fake hardship photos (hospital admission, typhoon damage etc) all to get free money off you. Try and resist the urge to make contact now unless you are a benevolent millionaire. Once you land at Ninoy Aquino International Airport, the pussy avalanche will start and you won't have to try too hard. Read the thread on Pen Pals and Chat Rooms for full information on mongers' experience with dating sites.
Pinays will be intrigued by your BBC as they have all seen Lexington Steele and Isiah Maxwell demolish Asian pussy. They will think you are the same. You will not find many three-hole spinners in the Philippines. Unlike Thai girls, Pinays are very scared of anal sex and will claim their ass is cherry (virgin). This fear probably comes from their Christian beliefs, whereas in Thailand, Buddhists don't have such hang-ups. Pinays equate anal sex to be purely for gays (or lady boys) and consider the asshole "dirty". You might get lucky with anal, but don't go expecting it.
Money depends on how much you want to spend. You can get accommodation for $20 a night and can get accommodation for $400 a night with everything in between. As has been said, starting price for street hookers or provincial girls is 1,000 peso for an all nighter, right through to 20,000 peso a night for a model grade girl in Manila on some escort sites. The average girl on Pina Love will be happy with a 2,000 peso "taxi fare" after spending a night with you. Super good looking girls on dating apps might be expecting 4,000 peso.
As with travelling in any dirt poor, shit hole country, be super cautious and retain awareness of your surroundings. People will always be looking to separate you from your wallet.
You will not find many three-hole spinners in the Philippines. Unlike Thai girls, Pinays are very scared of anal sex and will claim their ass is cherry (virgin). This fear probably comes from their Christian beliefs, whereas in Thailand, Buddhists don't have such hang-ups. Pinays equate anal sex to be purely for gays (or lady boys) and consider the asshole "dirty". You might get lucky with anal, but don't go expecting it.
As with travelling in any dirt poor, shit hole country, be super cautious and retain awareness of your surroundings. People will always be looking to separate you from your wallet.Beware that although Philippines is dirt poor they will rather give their pussy to locals than a foreigner. Only reason they will give sex to foreigners is money. They feel right at home emotionally connected to locals. Irrespective of what they say do not trust them not to have sexual relationships while they are not with you with locals. A girl who I was supporting through school confessed this.
As for anal some are curious and will allow you to try. I am not much into it. I guess mainly because one of my girlfriends in USA was complaining of severe pain. Another one I tried gave some kind of infection and we both needed to be treated.
I lived in a very Catholic country for a while (Colombia) and to keep there real virginity anal was the solution.
Engine Driver
04-17-21, 03:50
I lived in a very Catholic country for a while (Colombia) and to keep there real virginity anal was the solution.That is never an issue in the Philippines as there aren't many virgins around. Girls get their hymens busted with gay abandon, very early on in the provinces. There are always plenty of relatives living together in their cramped houses who are willing to help out.
Chocha Monger
04-17-21, 13:44
Pinays will be intrigued by your BBC as they have all seen Lexington Steele and Isiah Maxwell demolish Asian pussy. They will think you are the same. You will not find many three-hole spinners in the Philippines. Thanks to the ubiquity of free porn sites and cheap smartphones, Pinays have all seen Lexington Steele split Miko Lee's tiny Asian asshole open with his massive black anaconda. All of them hope to experience such intense pleasure and HighFlying and his BBC will be in great demand if only he could get into the Philippines. His problem will be finding enough time to pound out all of the horny eager Pinays wanting a taste of his BBC.
WestCoast1
04-17-21, 15:33
Covid restart. Vaccine shortages currently, and later there will be missteps and mishandling of things (scandals and cost over-runs, no different than other countries). Start thinking 2022 or beyond (just guessing). Manila continues to roll thru blooms of cases and deaths; hence the recent spates of strict lock down conditions recently reported.More on vaccinations in Phils. From Wiki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_vaccination_in_the_Philippines
From the article: "As of April 13,2021, about 1,255,716 total of doses administered, 1,093,651 individuals have been vaccinated across the country, with 162,065 receiving the second dose".
And:
"Delivery plan.
The national government planned to rollout its vaccination program around February expecting the delivery of vaccines from Pfizer's vaccines sourced from the COVAX facility and the first batch of Sinovac's vaccines, consisting of 50,000 doses. The delivery of Pfizer's vaccines was delayed due to documentary issues.
The government plans to start a full rollout or mass vaccination for the general populace around late 2021".
A mass-jab program in late 2021 means. . . Well its not good for those in the Blue Balls Brigade.
I have been researching a lot including asking my father that was stationed there a long time ago. When I told him I was planning to go he said you want some of that brown ass over there don't you lmao. He told me about the "shit river" that they threw coins into and kids would go in and get the coins. I'm not sure what base that used to be tho.
I'm also afraid to go over because I've had yellow fever for a long time. I'm scared I'll pull a Harlem nights over there. (put your momma on the phone!! I'm never coming back home LMMFAO) but I truly do understand fuck them and forget them aspect of the Philippines.
Or is it just the same as showing up and take your pick of who you want to pound out.
Last thing when I go how much money would you guy recommend I take with me? Thanks again for the help guys. Really appreciate it.I'll go from the bottom up:
1. Take enough money to enjoy yourself. You really don't need to bring it in hand since your bank ATM card will work fine and you can find ATMs in English in large city's like Manila. But to make sure some cute honey doesn't take it all, just go to your bank and open up a "travel account" separate from your main accounts and do internal transfers of funds there and use that debit card. I bring this up because here in Japan a few years back even on one of the Chili's on one of the bases they had a data breach of customers who used credit cards which caused a big ado. If you only use one card for travel and wire money into the account or better yet just put a set amount in it if you ever get compromised you're only out the amount in one account not your main one.
2. Yes, you show up and walk around and sooner than later you will be walking back to your hotel with one or two. Main thing is don't be a jerk, be nice and things will work out.
3. I'm in the same boat. I made my first WESTPAC deployment to Hawaii, Subic Bay, Singapore, Hong Kong, and Muscat Oman back in 1990 and have loved living in the Far East every since then. Going on a total of almost 20 years living in Japan and Guam now. That's nothing, I used to work with some old timers who had come to Japan back in 1953 and were still working in their 80's back in the early 2000's. Used to see a few old timers back in Subic when we had bases over there. As a matter of fact, all of the "Brothers" would wind up going to Sam's Soul Food Cafeteria in Olongopo. It was run by a retired Navy guy who made his home there and if you went into Sam's any women you met there were "down with the Brothers (or Chocolate Man as they used to say).
4. To that point, Shit River was outside the old Navy base and you crossed a bridge to get into Olongapo City. Guys would throw coins over the side to watch the kids dive in to get them. It was a nasty river and I would never eat anything that was in it. Once you crossed Shit River you were on the main drag Magsaysay Blvd. A long street with nothing but bars as you walked along and working girls and health officials in the streets checking women. They would tell you it's better to pick up a girls and pay bar fine than be cheap and pay a street girl since women at the bars had to have a medical check at a clinic and they received a card stating they were VD free at that time. I had one and we got stopped in the middle of the street and she pulled out her card. Gave me some peace of mind. As you walked away from the base, the bars and clubs closest to the base played Rock and Roll or Country Music. These were where the white guys from the ships hung out and as such the women preferred white guys. As you went further down you went into an area called "The Jungle" where Soul and Hip Hop was played and this is where the Brothers or "Chocolate Man" as they called us hung out and thus women would prefer Black guys there. That's where Sam's Soul Food was.
Check out a website called "Subic Bay Remembered" and one similar for Angeles City Remembered and you will see old photos and bar girls or some old videos posted on YouTube.
AussieGaigin
04-29-21, 00:54
This was in a Singapore thread, but is probably more relevant here.
There are many educated and uneducated pinays who want a baby with a white man because the child will have lighter skin and it is considered socially desirable in some parts of PI to have a foreign sperm donor. They want a foreign (white) husband, or at least get pregnant by one, so they can be seen as more beautiful and able to attract a foreigner. The girls who are only able to get a local PI guy is considered not so hot because white men don't want her. This also plays into the money angle because they see foreigners as rich and a source of money, with the baby being the hook that keeps the guy in the picture.What happens to these mixed off-springs later in life?
I've recently had contact on PL from a 38 yo girl living in Camiguan, who had very western features, quite attractive. Claimed to be single, never married, no kids; had never travelled off the island; lived with parents, had two brothers who married and moved away. She mentioned her birthday was coming up, but couldn't afford to buy a birthday cake; perhaps a hint for a contribution, but she didn't actually ask.
I'm guessing she could be the product of mixed parenting. Would her appearance be a deterrent to finding a local Pinoy husband?
This was in a Singapore thread, but is probably more relevant here.
What happens to these mixed off-springs later in life?
I've recently had contact on PL from a 38 yo girl living in Camiguan, who had very western features, quite attractive. Claimed to be single, never married, no kids; had never travelled off the island; lived with parents, had two brothers who married and moved away. She mentioned her birthday was coming up, but couldn't afford to buy a birthday cake; perhaps a hint for a contribution, but she didn't actually ask.
I'm guessing she could be the product of mixed parenting. Would her appearance be a deterrent to finding a local Pinoy husband?Most light skinned girls get jobs in entertainment industry as well as air hostesses. I am sure rich Philippine guys wants trophy wife. There was a real western looking girl in Angeles who I was with said lots of foreigners wants to marry her but her preference is locals and she had two kids by them. She hooked me up with many local non bar girls.
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I'm guessing she could be the product of mixed parenting. Would her appearance be a deterrent to finding a local Pinoy husband?Mixed parentage often gives a tall, slender body, fair skin, an angular face and generally "exotic" looks. These are highly prized by both Asians and westerners. As Sammon notes, many girls (and guys) find there way into beauty intensive industries right up to Miss Universe. Pia W is Phil-German.
If the parents moved in well to do expat circles, daughters will also have the cash for expensive photo shoots, acting lessons and social circles. A monger / bargirl bastard will just join the flotsam.
It's certainly not rare for girls to seek out a foreigner simply to have a mixed kid.
Cheers. G.
Mixed parentage often gives a tall, slender body, fair skin, an angular face and generally "exotic" looks. These are highly prized by both Asians and westerners. As Sammon notes, many girls (and guys) find there way into beauty intensive industries right up to Miss Universe. Pia W is Phil-German.
If the parents moved in well to do expat circles, daughters will also have the cash for expensive photo shoots, acting lessons and social circles. A monger / bargirl bastard will just join the flotsam.
It's certainly not rare for girls to seek out a foreigner simply to have a mixed kid.
Cheers. G.Marilyn Monroe once said to Albert Einstein: "think about a baby we could have with my looks and your brains! Einstein quickly replied: "what if it gets my looks and your brains!
Marilyn Monroe once said to Albert Einstein: "think about a baby we could have with my looks and your brains! Einstein quickly replied: "what if it gets my looks and your brains!Hahahah. Now there is a PhD study in the waiting 😁.
I'm no expert but wouldn't intelligence and beauty both be dominant genes? Beauty is often linked to survivability and fertility and intelligence certainly helps in a Darwinian world.
Of course, if they actually stayed together long enough to procreate may also be a factor. God knows what they would talk about. A combination of Relativity and blowing JFK maybe?
Cheers. G.
Chocha Monger
04-30-21, 01:40
If the parents moved in well to do expat circles, daughters will also have the cash for expensive photo shoots, acting lessons and social circles. A monger / bargirl bastard will just join the flotsam.
It's certainly not rare for girls to seek out a foreigner simply to have a mixed kid.
Cheers. G.In a nutshell, when a white monger breeds with a Filipina bargirl, the female offspring often become bargirls. Like mother like daughter. Light-skinned male offspring can look forward to bright careers in the gay bars as lady-boys. The less attractive bastards end up as trike drivers or fake Viagra salesmen. The apple does not fall far from the tree. The 'Fallen Angels' documentary provides excellent information on the fate of half-white bastards left behind by heartless Aussie and German mongers who vanish after giving horny LBFMs bareback cream pie cum-in-pussy. A sad scene in the documentary shows a fatherless bastard trying on the stilettos that her mother wears when she goes hooking with mongers from the bar.
Hahahah. Now there is a PhD study in the waiting 😁.
I'm no expert but wouldn't intelligence and beauty both be dominant genes? Beauty is often linked to survivability and fertility and intelligence certainly helps in a Darwinian world.
Of course, if they actually stayed together long enough to procreate may also be a factor. God knows what they would talk about. A combination of Relativity and blowing JFK maybe?
Cheers. G.Dominant genes? Cute western babies turn into fat bald beer belly drunks running from fat ugly western women. I don't think these genes are any help after the cuteness age is long gone in the rear view mirror.
HighFlying
04-30-21, 17:04
You guys are to funny up here. But seriously thanks for all your good information. Can't wait for this COVID stuff to be over. So I can put my BBC in some pinay pussy.
Pinays are notoriously bad at forgery......They are almost as bad as Afghans.
We would often get supporting documents where he had physically cut out a name on a transcript or and degree and replaced ii with their own name but you could see the cut and tape markers.
One guy only needed o change last name and used a different font.
I'm an Egyptian dude in my early 20's. My ethnicity is Arab / white Mediterranean. I have white skin but have Mediterranean features (thick black curly hair, eyebrows, brown eyes), making people think I'm Spanish / Italian. I am also 5'10.
Anyways, I have found Filipinas cute and always liked their personality. However, I have a type (large breasted women). I believe Filipinas are not curvy in general. Are large-breasted women there rare? I'd imagine having a petite figure would enhance the size of their breasts and make them look more curvy, but they seem kinda flat to me. Also, I read somewhere that it's one of the countries with the smallest tits on average.
In terms of my chances, I would be considered tall compared to the avg there, but not as exotic since there are already so many tall white guys, no? Do Filipinas even find Arabs attractive or is it only white guys? I do find Filipinas cute though, particularly the tan and whiter Hispanic-looking ones. Are those types of women in abundance or no?
Geneva Guy
05-24-21, 16:12
Well, I was hoping that the requests for money had stopped. But now they are making me crazy:
-First, filipina maid I bonk in SG asked for 25,000 P so she can send it to her cousin. This would complete a send of 100,000 P, and supposedly, cousin will pay her 10% per month on the money. I told her I thought that sounded like a scam to me, who does that in these financial times? Cousin owns a gravel business.
-Second, filipina in Davao that I have flow to Singapore for bonking a few times in the past. Some "friend" dumped her 12 year old girl on her because the friend's husband left her, now this filipina in Davao claims that she is responsible for this 12 year old (meaning that I am responsible to support this kid that I have no connection with). Who does this? This one also asked for money to build a spa, put a fence around a building, etc. And fly her friend from Manilla to Davao to stay there.
-Third, filipina in Manilla asked for 10,000 P to "top off" her bank account so that the bank would not close her account (supposedly needs to keep 20-25 K P in the bank). I asked "so how will you live since you are on lockdown with no job if I top this off?" What nonsense is this?
-Other various and sundries excuses for needing money include: 1. Need to buy a new phone since mine broke; 2. Taking a course and need tuition fees, etc.
Honestly, these girls really have NO shame to ask for money. Reminds me of my time in Africa where they said "if you don't ask, you can't be turned down".
I guess I don't understand the bizarre nature of life in the PHIL. As in living hand to mouth, etc.
GG.
I'm an Egyptian dude in my early 20's. My ethnicity is Arab / white Mediterranean. I have white skin but have Mediterranean features (thick black curly hair, eyebrows, brown eyes), making people think I'm Spanish / Italian. I am also 5'10.
Anyways, I have found Filipinas cute and always liked their personality. However, I have a type (large breasted women). I believe Filipinas are not curvy in general. Are large-breasted women there rare? I'd imagine having a petite figure would enhance the size of their breasts and make them look more curvy, but they seem kinda flat to me. Also, I read somewhere that it's one of the countries with the smallest tits on average.
In terms of my chances, I would be considered tall compared to the avg there, but not as exotic since there are already so many tall white guys, no? Do Filipinas even find Arabs attractive or is it only white guys? I do find Filipinas cute though, particularly the tan and whiter Hispanic-looking ones. Are those types of women in abundance or no?They are attracted to large wallets with lots of money. I've seen beautiful girls in their 20's with old fat white guys in their 50's, and it certainly wasn't for their looks. As for big breasts, the only ones I've seen with big breasts were chubby ones, so you must also like big bellies and butts if you must have a girl with big breasts.
MutantChicken
05-24-21, 17:54
Well, I was hoping that the requests for money had stopped. But now they are making me crazy:
-First, filipina maid I bonk in SG asked for 25,000 P so she can send it to her cousin. This would complete a send of 100,000 P, and supposedly, cousin will pay her 10% per month on the money. I told her I thought that sounded like a scam to me, who does that in these financial times? Cousin owns a gravel business.
-Second, filipina in Davao that I have flow to Singapore for bonking a few times in the past. Some "friend" dumped her 12 year old girl on her because the friend's husband left her, now this filipina in Davao claims that she is responsible for this 12 year old (meaning that I am responsible to support this kid that I have no connection with). Who does this? This one also asked for money to build a spa, put a fence around a building, etc. And fly her friend from Manilla to Davao to stay there.
-Third, filipina in Manilla asked for 10,000 P to "top off" her bank account so that the bank would not close her account (supposedly needs to keep 20-25 K P in the bank). I asked "so how will you live since you are on lockdown with no job if I top this off?" What nonsense is this?
-Other various and sundries excuses for needing money include: 1. Need to buy a new phone since mine broke; 2. Taking a course and need tuition fees, etc..I haven't had one request for money, but that also means when I was with these girls I didn't act like a chump and a easy mark. I still have their WhatsApp details and the only contact I have is the usual "Hi what are you doing", and I reply I'm not in country so cannot meet for boom boom.
Why should they have any shame about asking you for money as when they met you, you acted like someone who was desperate and easy to manipulate.
As to the issue of living hand to mouth, I have personal savings and investments to last me a lifetime, and I retired in my early 30's. I can't understand the bizarre nature of life for westerners who live hand to mouth IE need to work till they 60, have enough savings to live on for 3 months if they lucky, etc.
Mr Enternational
05-24-21, 21:03
I haven't had one request for money, but that also means when I was with these girls I didn't act like a chump and a easy mark. I still have their WhatsApp details and the only contact I have is the usual "Hi what are you doing", and I reply I'm not in country so cannot meet for boom boom.Cut to the fucking chase. Why do some guys find this so hard to do? In another thread a guy was talking about taking up a collection for a hooker that met some bad fortune. Everybody was like DUDE are you fucking kidding us, then he came to his senses.
As for big breasts, the only ones I've seen with big breasts were chubby ones, so you must also like big bellies and butts if you must have a girl with big breasts.As a generalisation, I'd say that the Mindanao girls have the largest breasts but, no they aren't huge. The younger ones stay slim but those with a few extra pounds do have curves.
The OP could make contact with Instagram glamour models. They all seem to have huge tits and curves. Most are available but prices are eye watering.
See pics in the posts below:
I came across this flat chested lass in Davao.
Swore that she was the smallest of her sisters.
Not a market I dabble in but IG model pricing:
.....
Enjoy G.
I'm an Egyptian dude in my early 20's. My ethnicity is Arab / white Mediterranean. I have white skin but have Mediterranean features (thick black curly hair, eyebrows, brown eyes), making people think I'm Spanish / Italian. I am also 5'10.
Anyways, I have found Filipinas cute and always liked their personality. However, I have a type (large breasted women). I believe Filipinas are not curvy in general. Are large-breasted women there rare? I'd imagine having a petite figure would enhance the size of their breasts and make them look more curvy, but they seem kinda flat to me. Also, I read somewhere that it's one of the countries with the smallest tits on average.
In terms of my chances, I would be considered tall compared to the avg there, but not as exotic since there are already so many tall white guys, no? Do Filipinas even find Arabs attractive or is it only white guys? I do find Filipinas cute though, particularly the tan and whiter Hispanic-looking ones. Are those types of women in abundance or no?Yes, I'm a Black American and have found many Pinay interested in me.
Well, I was hoping that the requests for money had stopped. But now they are making me crazy:
-First, filipina maid I bonk in SG asked for 25,000 P so she can send it to her cousin. This would complete a send of 100,000 P, and supposedly, cousin will pay her 10% per month on the money. I told her I thought that sounded like a scam to me, who does that in these financial times? Cousin owns a gravel business.
-Second, filipina in Davao that I have flow to Singapore for bonking a few times in the past. Some "friend" dumped her 12 year old girl on her because the friend's husband left her, now this filipina in Davao claims that she is responsible for this 12 year old (meaning that I am responsible to support this kid that I have no connection with). Who does this? This one also asked for money to build a spa, put a fence around a building, etc. And fly her friend from Manilla to Davao to stay there.
-Third, filipina in Manilla asked for 10,000 P to "top off" her bank account so that the bank would not close her account (supposedly needs to keep 20-25 K P in the bank). I asked "so how will you live since you are on lockdown with no job if I top this off?" What nonsense is this?
-Other various and sundries excuses for needing money include: 1. Need to buy a new phone since mine broke; 2. Taking a course and need tuition fees, etc.
Honestly, these girls really have NO shame to ask for money. Reminds me of my time in Africa where they said "if you don't ask, you can't be turned down".
I guess I don't understand the bizarre nature of life in the PHIL. As in living hand to mouth, etc.
GG.I've been hit with all of those and asked to "spin" the wheel on Meet Me, Tagged, Skout or whatever app so that they can make their "goal" and cash out. I've a few that I have donated to and received some nice videos from but for the most part I don't start chatting with someone who immediately asks for a "spin" right off the bat.
I've heard all of them too, one said they had no food and I replied if I were to play the game you still wouldn't eat tonight since it takes a few days before you would get the money. Your number 2 takes the cake. Feel sorry for the kid but why is she taking care of someone else's kid is what I would ask.
PedroMorales
05-25-21, 14:11
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9614161/Sugar-babies-reveal-Whisper-sugar-daddy-pays-including-groceries-rent-30k-month.html
That site says what LBFMs should aspire to. Why take a BBBJ with COF when you can get a nitwit to pay you a fortune for letting him rim you? Seems a no brainer to me. I miss the LBFMs but I don't imagine Covid will allow me have BBBJs with them again this side of the Pearly Gates, to which I am probably headed as see hances of heard dissipate with these endless lock down.
After the Indian variant, is it the turn of the Pakistani or Bangladeshi?
CenTexCrash
05-25-21, 18:12
Using SA as my paid too much for Tinder to gather up contacts for when I some day jet set abroad from the US of Texas. Primarily for Mexico use, but since I paid dearly for it, added PH as my third location. Every other day rotate around Manila, Davao, Cebu.
Girls can't seem to grasp I'm not there now but pass me WhatsApp now and some point this year I'll meet up.
Also get several distress pleas for food.
And some that say they're only doing virtual camming agreements.
(Tried this third locale option in other SEA spots, other than Jakarta the nibbles were ho-hum).
Honestly, these girls really have NO shame to ask for money. Reminds me of my time in Africa where they said "if you don't ask, you can't be turned down".
I guess I don't understand the bizarre nature of life in the PHIL. As in living hand to mouth, etc.
GG.Well what choice do they have. Like you point out, no job, no food. So might as well take a punt on asking for cash.
I have bene helping one former bonk and separately a former partner. I've stopped both as it provide zero return. These are smart girls and wil only ask P2000-P5000 at a time.
There is a humanitarian crisis unfolding in Ph.
BrisLad.
Using SA as my paid too much for Tinder to gather up contacts for when I some day jet set abroad from the US of Texas. Primarily for Mexico use, but since I paid dearly for it, added PH as my third location. Every other day rotate around Manila, Davao, Cebu.
Girls can't seem to grasp I'm not there now but pass me WhatsApp now and some point this year I'll meet up.
If you think the girls cannot grasp the situation I am having trouble grasping why you are shopping around now. A collection of un-tested unknown Ph numbers dates very quickly. Those girls will be gone by the time you get there.
All you need to do is targeted collection on the city of your actual paid tickets on the day you arrive, or at most a week before.
You are just wasting your time.
Well what choice do they have. Like you point out, no job, no food. So might as well take a punt on asking for cash.
Only it's not a punt. It's a near sure thing in the long run. Many girls are receiving 500,1000, or multiples of these on a regular basis.
And that's without ever having to suck a dick.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9614161/Sugar-babies-reveal-Whisper-sugar-daddy-pays-including-groceries-rent-30k-month.html
Having just spent an afternoon of sugar for less that the cost of a visit to my local brothel I call BS on that article. The article is based on the research that the 'journalist' has done on a series of memes. No names, no fact checking.
As a generalisation, I'd say that the Mindanao girls have the largest breasts but, no they aren't huge. The younger ones stay slim but those with a few extra pounds do have curves.
The OP could make contact with Instagram glamour models. They all seem to have huge tits and curves. Most are available but prices are eye watering.
See pics in the posts below:Hmm, what about Hispanic-looking Filipinos? Are they common or not? Which cities can you find them in?
Hmm, what about Hispanic-looking Filipinos? Are they common or not? Which cities can you find them in?Sure. Look for girls describing themselves as "Morena". Don't expect Brazilianesque curves or deep chocolate brown skin though.
Hmm, what about Hispanic-looking Filipinos? Are they common or not? Which cities can you find them in?I found a rare, slim girl out of G Point one time. She had the typical look that I like, slim, long straight hair, under 5', but she was busting out all over. She had huge naturals, was. Great in bed, but annoying as hell otherwise. Unfortunately, I lost the digits, would love to have done a short repeat.
This is kinda stupid but thought I'd share my "ahmp" collection. It always cracked me up so one day I just started making a collection. Sorry for the waste of bandwidth but thought it was cute enough to share in these slow times.
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WestCoast1
06-15-21, 07:20
Toink. Thanks,
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Im really sorry sam I hope you understand to my sitwasyon.That all from one girl?
I found a rare, slim girl out of G Point one time. She had the typical look that I like, slim, long straight hair, under 5', but she was busting out all over. She had huge naturals, was. Great in bed, but annoying as hell otherwise. Unfortunately, I lost the digits, would love to have done a short repeat.Hi George,
Too bad you lost her digits. Next time just stuff your dick in her mouth to get her to stop talking.
Why only from India, Pakistan or Bangladesh Buddy. Why not from US, UK or Australia.
Don't be racist. Look things from humanitarian and logical perspective.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9614161/Sugar-babies-reveal-Whisper-sugar-daddy-pays-including-groceries-rent-30k-month.html
That site says what LBFMs should aspire to. Why take a BBBJ with COF when you can get a nitwit to pay you a fortune for letting him rim you? Seems a no brainer to me. I miss the LBFMs but I don't imagine Covid will allow me have BBBJs with them again this side of the Pearly Gates, to which I am probably headed as see hances of heard dissipate with these endless lock down.
After the Indian variant, is it the turn of the Pakistani or Bangladeshi?
Pinaypounder
07-11-21, 19:13
I wish to occasionally indulge in watching some LBFM "live" with a partner or partners and I am prepared to pay for such service.
There is of course the quandry of paying in advance and getting ripped off or conversely watching and then me not paying a risk they understandably don't wish to take.
So how do some of you manage this transaction?
I await your leadership.
PP.
Wicked Roger
07-13-21, 06:37
I wish to occasionally indulge in watching some LBFM "live" with a partner or partners and I am prepared to pay for such service.
There is of course the quandry of paying in advance and getting ripped off or conversely watching and then me not paying a risk they understandably don't wish to take.
So how do some of you manage this transaction?
I await your leadership.
PP.Check your PMs please PP.
When I was living in Ph I had a regular pinay GF. A uni student single mum. We broke off when I left my in-country job to return to Aust two years ago. I have kept in contact as she is a good person (and hopefully she'll join me on summer holiday breaks in the future.) the pandemic has been hard on her as she graduated into the devastated economy. Like Natty said he doesn't mind supporting his Thai friend. I'm also in the mindset that it's ok to send my ex some small amounts from time to time.
BUT.
She has become so manic. She'll be fine. She'll be blocking me on every platform. She'll be declaring her love for me to return. She'll not message me for a month.
I do know her various games but these manic behaviors are different.
Anyone else noticing strange behaviors from the girls they have know a long time?
Mr Enternational
08-01-21, 02:29
Anyone else noticing strange behaviors from the girls they have know a long time?Nope. Because a chick that I have known a long time already knows that I don't put up with BS. Block and delete that hoe!
I do know her various games but these manic behaviors are different.
Anyone else noticing strange behaviors from the girls they have know a long time?Why is this different? It's standard practice for Pinas to manufacture a conflict when they have other things or guys that they want to spend time with. When that task is complete they can then "make up" and continue as if nothing happened.
I go one step further than Mr. E: mine don't speak unless they are spoken to. I don't get calls or chats when I'm in RWML but am happy to call, meet and help when I'm in town.
It's your money and time but it's probably 2 years since you were in PI and likely that long before you can return. Are you getting something in return that wouldn't be there if and when you can go back? I've never had a girl refuse to see me because I didn't provide support or communications while I was away.
Good luck. G.
Why is this different? It's standard practice for Pinas to manufacture a conflict when they have other things or guys that they want to spend time with. When that task is complete they can then "make up" and continue as if nothing happened.
This is different because she hasn't been like this in the past 5 years. I'm familiar with Filipina antics and easily brush them off. I'm wondering if this is a side effect of the rolling lockdowns and lack of future that is wreaking havoc.
Mr Enternational
08-02-21, 00:02
This is different because she hasn't been like this in the past 5 years. I'm familiar with Filipina antics and easily brush them off. I'm wondering if this is a side effect of the rolling lockdowns and lack of future that is wreaking havoc.LOL. You act like the chick is in solitary confinement and it has caused her to go stir crazy or something. If she is treating you this bad and you only write a few words to her every now and then, she must have literally cut a couple people's throats by now that she comes into close contact with on a daily basis. I guess that would get her the solitary confinement you are imagining to have taken its toll on her.
Billions of people that this pandemic has affected adversely and you think something is special in her case. Tell her to suck it up like the rest of the world is doing. Show her your goo goo eyes; that will get her to act better.
Thanks for the comments.
I'm not laughing about this. It's a genuine concern.
Mr Enternational
08-02-21, 12:51
Thanks for the comments.
I'm not laughing about this. It's a genuine concern.I wrote the posts in humor, but do not throw out the essence of them. Like I said, is she doing this to only you or other people around her as well? Don't know what your concern is, but if it is only you then she has something against only you. If she does the same with everyone then that means she is not able to control it and there could be something wrong with her.
Most people know with whom they can get away with what. When they lose sight of this and start acting out in general then there is a problem. Does she have a problem or does she just have a problem with you is what you need to be asking. And if you do not know other people around her then there is no way you could know this. You will just be taking shots in the dark by only knowing that she does it with you, but not how she is in general. You are wasting your time without other pieces of the puzzle.
Like I said, is she doing this to only you or other people around her as well? D
You are right in that I don't know. Over the past year I've cut off most of my casual contacts as their need for money grew. There is no need for me to work out what it is about this girl.
I'll still offer her a spot on the roster for my next eventual visit.
BrizLad.
WestCoast1
08-03-21, 23:44
A few youtube vids from The Filipina Pea that I recommend gents explore if you plan to live here:
1) The 10 Filipina Commandments, regarding relationships (14 minutes). The larger dynamic here is filipina insecurity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTjVkUt3rnY.
2) Why Filipina Cheat (13 minutes): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7QeK0RKFlU.
2) Why Filipina Cheat (13 minutes): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7QeK0RKFlU.Thanks for posting these. I stopped watching this one when she said "Are you wondering if your filipina partner is cheating?" I always just assumes she was. It's supply and demand.
Pinaypounder
08-11-21, 20:19
Working the sites and met a smart Filipina living in Honk Kong. We started to chat and I actually enjoyed chatting with her she is significantly smarter than most of them and frankly that's important now days for me then she informs me she has a Canadian BF living in China and they have been together for 5 years. I was like ok then why are we chatting? She also thinks he is wonderful and he is handsome blah blah but she does not think he will marry her and that's what she wants. She also informs me she is chatting other Canadians and was planning to meet a married Canadian also living in HK for a date last Sunday.
So I am like well you are a ****, a big one and also a good cock tease so lets at least play online together and if not there is no point. She was like I don't do that, this after hours of cock teasing video chat even 1 day topless.
As I liked her also I did my best to explain to her that she was cheating and that her BF deserved better as he had been a prince to her. I further explained no learned man would ever take up with a cheater for anything more than fun and that she is cheating and its not the best way to meet Mr. Forever. I did my best to explain it to her, normally with the stupid ones I don't even try to explain these things, fuck Filipinas are a stupid group of women but all of my time to explain was wasted on her. In her mind she was not cheating, she was not a cock tease (I guess we all chat topless) and this led to me having to block her.
I don't mind cheaters, I have fucked many of them, maybe 75% of the Filipinas her and abroad that I have fucked were cheating but at least be honest and upfront with yourself about your actions and consequences.
So to a Filipina if they deny it then its simply not true and we (the man) are stupid and ignorant for pointing out the facts!
So boys trust me that most of them cheat and be prepared.
PP.
P.S. She has decent tits and is sort of sharp?
I don't mind cheaters, I have fucked many of them, maybe 75% of the Filipinas her and abroad that I have fucked were cheating but at least be honest and upfront with yourself about your actions and consequences.
I'm lost here. If everyone is honest and up front who is cheating on whom?
I had a hooker as an unpaid GF once. She truely rocked my world when I was in town and went back to work when I wasn't. Of course, I saw other girls when I was away. We both knew this and neither of us cared. Was this cheating?
Surely guys that rarely or never visit their "girlfriend" know that they aren't sitting their cross legged waiting for the next Western Union love letter?
Enjoy. G.
Working the sites and met a smart Filipina living in Honk Kong. We started to chat and I actually enjoyed chatting with her she is significantly smarter than most of them and frankly that's important now days for me then she informs me she has a Canadian BF living in China and they have been together for 5 years. I was like ok then why are we chatting? She also thinks he is wonderful and he is handsome blah blah but she does not think he will marry her and that's what she wants. What your story does remind me of how much fun I am missing out in HK these days. I used to enjoy making a pickup near Central Station and having a great afternoon with some fun maid.
Makes me smile when I do remember getting a mercy fuck from one girl. We chatted and flirted heaps and ended up back in my hotel after a while she says it's my unlucky day as its her period. She did give a good BBBJ during which she has realised it was also her unlucky day as she probably won't get much tip for just a BJ. She ends up taking me to the shower, running the shower which did a good job of washing all the bloody mess away as we fucked in the shower.
With the current political climate and other options post-covid I probably may not monger in HK again.
I miss those days.
Brizlad.
There are three Filipina I know that have gotten married to foreigners. I can understand why the girls did it but WTF were the foreigners thinking?
Exhibit A.
Foreign national is living in Ph, married with a kid to a provincial girl. While travelling within Ph he meets another Filipina in a different provincial town. She is the daughter of a barangay captain. They have a big wedding in her town. Within 4 months he's gone back to original wife. Girl B goes through a year of drama to get her marriage cancelled as it should never have been declared.
Exhibit B.
35 yo Foreign national travels to Ph, meets a lovely 30 yo girl and falls in love. On second trip in that same year they get married. He pays for her an apartment and she is encouraged to give up her secure government job. He goes back to his country. They are lovey dovey on FB and his profile is plastered with pics of he and her having great times together. That was four years ago. He continues paying apartment and allowance. He has not returned. She has not worked as he insists she doesn't need to. He has made no effort to take her to his country. Sometimes doesn't communicate for months. Continues paying. He has a low level tech support job in his country (ie he's not super rich).
Exhibit C.
51 yo foreigner meets 26 yo nurse. After two visits they get married in Ph. He doesn't visit again. After a few months he continually verbally abuses the girl. Contributes $0 since start of marriage (she doesn't need any money anyway). Continually say he has lodged divorce proceedings but none ever eventuate. SHe has moved country and become an OFW.
What insights do you have for these men? What are they thinking?
Radical Guy
10-05-21, 01:12
There are three Filipina I know that have gotten married to foreigners. I can understand why the girls did it but WTF were the foreigners thinking?
Exhibit A.
Foreign national is living in Ph, married with a kid to a provincial girl. While travelling within Ph he meets another Filipina in a different provincial town. She is the daughter of a barangay captain. They have a big wedding in her town. Within 4 months he's gone back to original wife. Girl B goes through a year of drama to get her marriage cancelled as it should never have been declared.
Exhibit B.
35 yo Foreign national travels to Ph, meets a lovely 30 yo girl and falls in love. On second trip in that same year they get married. He pays for her an apartment and she is encouraged to give up her secure government job. He goes back to his country. They are lovey dovey on FB and his profile is plastered with pics of he and her having great times together. That was four years ago. He continues paying apartment and allowance. He has not returned. She has not worked as he insists she doesn't need to. He has made no effort to take her to his country. Sometimes doesn't communicate for months. Continues paying. He has a low level tech support job in his country (ie he's not super rich).
Exhibit C.
51 yo foreigner meets 26 yo nurse. After two visits they get married in Ph. He doesn't visit again. After a few months he continually verbally abuses the girl. Contributes $0 since start of marriage (she doesn't need any money anyway). Continually say he has lodged divorce proceedings but none ever eventuate. SHe has moved country and become an OFW.
What insights do you have for these men? What are they thinking?I guess I was one of the few lucky ones. After mongering for many years, I petitioned a 23-year-old Filipina from Mindanao (I was 55) on a US fiancée visa, brought her to the US, and we were married 6 years ago. Since then, she has become a US citizen, got a high paying professional job with a big company, and still looks as hot as ever. Unlike my previous Filipina wife, she has not become "Americanized," but still remains the sweet attentive wife from the provinces that she was when we married.
I still like to read the reports on this site to reminisce about my mongering days, but in that regard, I'm "retired. ".
RG.
Mr Enternational
10-05-21, 01:27
There are three Filipina I know that have gotten married to foreigners. I can understand why the girls did it but WTF were the foreigners thinking?Men like fairy tales just as much as women. From reading this site alone, you can see that many men also like playing a hero role. I wish that I had enough money to make me want to save women. I definitely would not use it for that.
Men like fairy tales just as much as women.I was once chatting online and the inevitable "what are you looking for?" was asked.
I replied "Cinderella".
"What?
"Yep, a Princess by day and a filthy party girl by night. Hopefully, she can tell the time too!
I never did get to fuck her. 😭.
WestCoast1
10-05-21, 05:43
"Yep, a Princess by day and a filthy party girl by night. Hopefully, she can tell the time too! I never did get to fuck her. Hahaha, shocked that you did not bag that one.
Many years ago, similar situation. When asked, I explained that I was only looking for evening fun, food, drinks, music, and a hot night in my hotel room. Generous in the morning. The pretty, early-30's Cebuana went offline and I did not hear back from her. These things happen, and she was replaced on the upcoming trip by another. Maybe 6 months later she contacted me out of the blue.
Girl: Hi.
Me: Hi, long time
Girl: Before you said to me fun night time only.
Me: Yes
Girl: Before. I am shocked. I am nervous. Sorry that.
Me: No worries
Girl: But excited also.
Me: Really
Girl: Yes but too much shy.
Me: And now?
Girl: Maybe.
Me: You want to meet next time I am there? Next month
Girl: Maybe. Yes. Maybe.
Me: Which is it?
Girl: Yes I want.
A few more chats like this, she was still skittish. As my time grew close she ghosted me again and stopped communicating. This is life. But these conversations are worthwhile, with more such similar girls you are increasing your chance of getting one to bust off her family (or boyfie's) leash and become the baddest 1-night pornstar on earth (and maybe you get a long-time regular).
Sometimes you get the bear. Sometimes the bear gets you. Go team.
Sometimes you get the bear. Sometimes the bear gets you. Go team.Have a similar girl and this profile at the moment. Sadly I think she will peak before I can get there on the ground.
Started with a few random insta message, first being December 2020, then one in April and got a reply out of the blue in July. Then it was a week for her to reply. Then she got hooked and had a big chat in mid-September. I asked to move to whatsapp but she doesn't have that, so we move to facebook. Daily chats, now two weeks later she 'remembers' she does have whatsapp.
I joked about us meeting but she says cannot in public due to family. Haha, that to me is code word for coming straight to the hotel.
All of this is wasted though as she will have gotten away by the 6 months it will take until I am there.
I have set a target for myself to see her naked on cam by Friday.
Seems the game is the same when we resume soon.
WestCoast1
10-05-21, 14:40
What insights do you have for these men? What are they thinking?You deserve a story. Exhibit D.
I have several regulars here for my cock-el warming. Lets call one of them Kim. Before Covid on previous visits she was constantly needling for more time. More ST or LT. This time, during Covid, she has been almost care-free and at times uninterested. Previously she wanted multiple times per week. She wanted ST to become LT. But during Covid she has been fine with 2-3-4 x a month, ST. One day we were set to meet at Sogo for a ST at 2 pm. She msg'd the evening before to ask if we could LT. Um, sure.
Once at the hotel, shooting the bull, I asked Kim why she seemed less interested lately. "I tell you a truth. I have other guys. Two guys". Good for you, getting laid a lot? "Not like that. I have two foreigner sending money to me". Ah, past clients. Even this late into Covid? "One of them is client. The other one I met on Date In Asia. Both is good guy, both is sending money". Wow, that's some powerful poonana. The DIA guy, just sends you money? "Yes he's very nice. 79 years age". And the other guy, the client, how old? "78". Combined, they send you enough for your needs each month? "Yes for me, my son, my mom". How much do they send you? "My client sends pXX, XXX and the other guy sends pYY, YYY". Each month? "Yes". Holy jackpot! Either of those numbers is enough for her family. When is the last time you saw the client? "2018". How is the sex when you are with him? "No sex. Too old the dick don't get hard". You taking your clothes off for them on cam? "You know I don't do on cam". They don't ask? "No they both are nice".
Those foreigners. WTF.
Once at the hotel, shooting the bull, I asked Kim why she seemed less interested lately. "I tell you a truth. I have other guys. Two guys". Good for you, getting laid a lot? "Not like that. I have two foreigner sending money to me". Ah, past clients. Even this late into Covid? "One of them is client. The other one I met on Date In Asia. Both is good guy, both is sending money". Wow, that's some powerful poonana. The DIA guy, just sends you money? "Yes he's very nice. 79 years age". And the other guy, the client, how old? "78". Combined, they send you enough for your needs each month? "Yes for me, my son, my mom". How much do they send you? "My client sends pXX, XXX and the other guy sends pYY, YYY". Each month? "Yes". Holy jackpot! Either of those numbers is enough for her family. When is the last time you saw the client? "2018". How is the sex when you are with him? "No sex. Too old the dick don't get hard". You taking your clothes off for them on cam? "You know I don't do on cam". They don't ask? "No they both are nice".
WTF.Still doesn't give insight into what they are thinking.
WestCoast1
10-06-21, 00:35
Still doesn't give insight into what they are thinking.It means a lot of foreign guys, stuck at home and with excess money (anyone sending a girl overseas hundreds of dollars a month whom he hasn't seen in years -- or has never seen -- has excess money), live in a virtual fantasy world. I have found that many (men AND women) don't realize the fantasy aspect of the virtual world (s) they live in.
For the girl, it gives insight on the frequency that this particular girl *wants* to come. Whereas previously she was wanting to come more often, one might assume for money. In the Covid period, money is less an issue for her. There was another factor that I did not mention; I will PM you.
It means a lot of foreign guys, stuck at home and with excess money (anyone sending a girl overseas hundreds of dollars a month whom he hasn't seen in years -- or has never seen -- has excess money), live in a virtual fantasy world. I have found that many (men AND women) don't realize the fantasy aspect of the virtual world (s) they live in.
For the girl, it gives insight on the frequency that this particular girl *wants* to come. Whereas previously she was wanting to come more often, one might assume for money. In the Covid period, money is less an issue for her. There was another factor that I did not mention; I will PM you.It's a good point. We have to respect that those older guys are probably happily enjoying sending some money. In return they are probably receiving some lovely texts with a few heart imojis, maybe that's more than their grandkids give them.
NicFrenchy
10-06-21, 15:05
I have 2 anecdotes about Pinays.
1. I live in BKK and met this Cute young Pinay on Tinder. She's teaching in BKK and just has no time to go out or does not want to go out in the Philippino circles (whatever that is).
Anyway, she's a great girl, hot, has a brain and we get on perfect (she can actually speak great English and can hold a long conversation, which is not common with Thai girls when you speak in English).
After 3 days of chat, we set a lunch date that lasts 4 hours! I offer to take her back home and she invites me in, obviously have sex.
Follow a few encounters before she decides it's time to lose the condom. Except, she got annoyed when I pulled out to finish on her stomach.
Girl: why you do that?
NF: What you mean?
Girl: why you didn't finish inside?
NF: Are you kidding me?
Girl: no.
NF: Are you on the pill?
Girl: no.
NF: you don't want to get pregnant so why. didn't get to finish.
Girl: yes I want.
NF: huh?
Girl: I want a baby, I want your baby, I don't ask you for anything, I want your baby.
NF: why would I want to make a baby that will not have a father?
Girl: The baby have a father, it's you.
Never saw this girl again
2. Another Tinder encounter, where the girl asks me after 3 lines of chit chat. "Did you ever pay for sex? Be honest" (your garden variety prostitute move.).
I say "well yes we always end up paying one way or the other".
She says "so you pay or not pay before? When I say yes she immediately wants to move to LINE (so I can't "report" her on Tinder if she offers sex / money).
We move to LINE and she writes:
HER: So how much you pay for st? Interested to me I'm not skinny I'm chubby but not fat. I'm 31 years old from the Philippines.
ME: "What's your package then".
HER: Deepthroat balls and dick suck pussy and anal sex if you want 2000 is okay for short time. If you want threesome we can do with my friends but quite expensive 2 hrs 2500 for my my friend always charging 3500 for threesome.
ME: Send me your nudes.
she gets offended
HER: I'm not Thai so I hate sending my photos for some reason I'm not doing this for my whole time so I have reputation.
a few hours go by without me answering... then
HER: I want to know when you want to meet me??
ME: "I don't unless I see what you look like".
She's offended I dare ask for nudes...
ME: It's sex for money, not a girlfriend right? It's a transaction. You ever pay for something without looking at it first?
HER: I know. But I lost hope already. Because I'm not beautiful and sexy.
ME: so you say you don't look nice but I have to pay without looking first?
HER: I'm chubby not skinny but I'm not fat. I'm not beautiful but I think I'm not ugly, so you want meet me or not?
ME: "I respect totally you not wanting to send nude photos that's your choice" "We are all human with our limits".
she now is pissed...
HER: what is this. I really hate men asking pussy and boobs. Good customer never asked that. I promised. I meet 100 plus good clients never asked pussy and boobs.
They just pay, but many scumbags men fraud men asking only to fools girls so we never send. Nudes photos are okay but we never send pussy.
ME: ok, send the nude photos without pussy.
HER: no I am chubby and not pretty.
ME: (annoyed at this point), Chubby and ugly I can get for free. But I guess people pay you to leave without drama.
I blocked her before she could respond.
WTF, these girls think they can be treated like they're regular Tinder girlfriends? If it's P4 P then she's no more than a product. An enjoyable one, that deserves respect, but not flowers and the keys to your house.
WTF, these girls think they can be treated like they're regular Tinder girlfriends? If it's P4 P then she's no more than a product. An enjoyable one, that deserves respect, but not flowers and the keys to your house.From my experience, if a Filipina says she is chubby that is perfectly doable for me. She will have boobs, she will be good in BBBJ, she will be fun. Filipina's like to play their games. If you can enjoy the banter then you can enjoy the sex. Seems this one got you offside, the same way you got her offside. Just move along.
From my experience, if a Filipina says she is chubby.....She is waiting for a reply saying how beautiful she is. It's hard to find anyone more insecure than a pina, especially a working pina. They are constantly looking for flattery and reassurance.
I'd agree that she may or may not actually pretty and good in bed. Who knows?
No offence to Nic but I'm siding with the the girl here. Why would she send nudes to some guy she just met online without compensation? She's heard promises 1000 times before and knows 99.99% of them amount to nothing.
I don't send taxi money to unknown girls who promise to fukk me later either. Same same.
Enjoy. G.
Mr Enternational
10-07-21, 04:23
HER: So how much you pay for st? Interested to me I'm not skinny I'm chubby but not fat. I'm 31 years old from the Philippines.
HER: I know. But I lost hope already. Because I'm not beautiful and sexy.
HER: Deepthroat balls and dick suck pussy and anal sex if you want 2000 is okay for short time. If you want threesome we can do with my friends but quite expensive 2 hrs 2500 for my my friend always charging 3500 for threesome.All this hemming and hawing. Simple response: You say you are not beautiful and sexy and you are chubby. So that mean not worth 2000, but I will give you 1000 and 2000 for threesome. Just use what they say to your favor.
NicFrenchy
10-07-21, 08:54
No offence to Nic but I'm siding with the the girl here. Why would she send nudes to some guy she just met online without compensation? She's heard promises 1000 times before and knows 99.99% of them amount to nothing.No offence taken. In the Tinder, working girl game, Thai girls are really good and creative. Once they get you on LINE, they have a package already made with Photos and prices (some have videos).
When you are used to this, why settle for some girl (no matter the nationality) that will show you nothing and expect you to be ok with it? I'm not asking for a test drive. Although that would be quite something in the P4 P business, a test drive LOL.
NicFrenchy
10-07-21, 08:57
All this hemming and hawing. Simple response: You say you are not beautiful and sexy and you are chubby. So that mean not worth 2000, but I will give you 1000 and 2000 for threesome. Just use what they say to your favor.I could have, but why go through the hassle or even offer to pay something for a girl I have not seen?
I usually play the longer game in Tinder, the free-GF route so when a seller (if you will) comes along, I want to see the goods before I agree to the purchase.
Once at the hotel, shooting the bull, I asked Kim why she seemed less interested lately. "I tell you a truth. I have other guys. Two guys"....The DIA guy, just sends you money? "Yes he's very nice. 79 years age". And the other guy, the client, how old? "78". Combined, they send you enough for your needs each month? "Yes for me, my son, my mom".....
...We have to respect that those older guys are probably happily enjoying sending some money. In return they are probably receiving some lovely texts with a few heart imojis, maybe that's more than their grandkids give them.Can you imagine the (grand) kids' faces when grandpa's inheritance has been frittered away 1000 peso at a time! 😳.
WestCoast1
10-07-21, 10:38
Girl: I want a baby, I want your baby, I don't ask you for anything, I want your baby.For every time I heard that. Pinay are notoriously anti-condom (possible exceptions: Pro's) for multiple reasons. It really IS more fun in Phils. And more dangerous, too. Smile.
AsianPursuits
02-22-22, 21:53
During the pandemic I did send a few contributions to 3 girls over the course of 2020, 2021. Probably P20 k all up to these girls that I have had multiple visits with in the past.
In my mind I was thinking of these as "pre-payments" for future services.
Now that I am planning my trip and getting an idea of how I will spend my time. So if I say to ex-uni student, now graduated and employed to hand out for the week she's going to need additional compensation to cover lost wages, travel etc plus week's allowance. Similar for the other two.
So, my P20 k is a sunk cost and I can feel some satisfaction I helped them in their time of need.
I do expect they will be more reliable to turn up. For more money.
WestCoast1
02-23-22, 02:07
During the pandemic I did send a few contributions to 3 girls over the course of 2020, 2021. Probably P20 k all up to these girls that I have had multiple visits with in the past.
In my mind I was thinking of these as "pre-payments" for future services.Its a nice fantasy. I've had the fantasy before, too. . . Do you have a signed contract for any of that? Pinoy have little sense of repaying financial debts. They understand that when they themselves loan money to others, that there is little chance of getting it back. If you want to know if a pinoy is sincere about paying back a loan, ask them to sign a simple contract. Many will refuse, because that would mean that they are bound to pay back at some point. This is very telling when someone refuses to sign a loan repayment promise, as they were not sincere in paying back from the get-go. BTW, signed contracts in Phils can be a simple piece of paper done in ink pen. Must have date and names of all parties, including a witness. Want to see if your pinoy is very sincere about repayment? Ask him / her to go to his Brgy office with you to have a Kagawad witness the document signature.
I do expect they will be more reliable to turn up. For more money. And only for more money. Most certainly they will not take time off from work (in fact, it might not be possible to take time from work without losing the job) for a week to bang you and not get paid from their job. If the girls can't make it, ask them in advance if they have friend j / cousin who might be interested in some extra prize money.
Geneva Guy
02-23-22, 02:09
Its a nice fantasy. I've had the fantasy before, too. . . Do you have a signed contract for any of that? Pinoy have little sense of repaying financial debts. They understand that when they themselves loan money to others, that there is little chance of getting it back. If you want to know if a pinoy is sincere about paying back a loan, ask them to sign a simple contract. Many will refuse, because that would mean that they are bound to pay back at some point. This is very telling when someone refuses to sign a loan repayment promise, as they were not sincere in paying back from the get-go. BTW, signed contracts in Phils can be a simple piece of paper done in ink pen. Must have date and names of all parties, including a witness. Want to see if your pinoy is very sincere about repayment? Ask him / her to go to his Brgy office with you to have a Kagawad witness the document signature.
And only for more money. Most certainly they will not take time off from work (in fact, it might not be possible to take time from work without losing the job) for a week to bang you and not get paid from their job. If the girls can't make it, ask them in advance if they have friend j / cousin who might be interested in some extra prize money.I actually had a filipina maid in Singapore pay me back money I "loaned" her. I was shocked but she did it. Miracles do happen hehe. Maybe because she was a 3 hole girl? Westy, any analysis on this?
GG.
WestCoast1
02-23-22, 02:23
I actually had a filipina maid in Singapore pay me back money I "loaned" her. I was shocked but she did it. Miracles do happen hehe. Maybe because she was a 3 hole girl? Westy, any analysis on this?
GG.I too have loaned money. However, I have learned the hard way long ago that expecting repayment for either 1) cash handed to a pinoy; or 2) a promise made by a girl on the internet, rarely see any return.
However, documented loans on paper have a higher return percentage. Possibly even 50%, which in itself is crappy, but much better than 1) or 2) above.
As an example. One of your previous girls was p1500 for a ST, and she gave good service. She asks for a p3000 remit loan and she agrees to 2ST's to pay it back. Even if she is willing to come to you, on her first ST she will want some extra money: Fare, babysitter, and "please please something for my foods my kids is hangry". You end up forking over another 700, bringing your new ST rate to p2200. It would have been easier to say NO to her request, and just ST'd her when you return.
I have had others borrow and pay back cash, but its unusual. Expect it to be a gift.
AsianPursuits
02-23-22, 08:39
If the girls can't make it, ask them in advance if they have friend j / cousin who might be interested in some extra prize money.Thanks Geneva Guy & Westie for your thoughts. These are a sunk cost and I will forget it. It actually makes my trip planning a lot easier. Rather than planning my trip around the availability of specific girls I'll first just plan the trip and dates to suit myself then offer if they want to join on specific dates. If not, I'll will be using this cousin / friend concept and see where that leads.
Of course, two of the girls have specific qualities that I would like to run through again if it works out.
Girl 1: The loudest most coordinated girl I've ever fucked. She was exciting on the first time and continued to be exciting every time for two years. (she's on Pinalove for anyone in AC at the moment).
Girl 2: Innocent god fearing ex-HK hooker / bargirl now retired that insists on bareback and no contraception. Kind of an extra degree of caution needed.
Other than that there are all the usual dating site channels with 100,000 similar options.
Nice Guy 99
02-23-22, 15:09
I have learned the hard way long ago that expecting repayment for either 1) cash handed to a pinoy; or 2) a promise made by a girl on the internet, rarely see any return.Case #1. Three weeks ago I fronted for 14 piglets plus feed. The pinay is someone I've known for years. I've loaned money to her before and it's always been repaid. She even sends me short vids of "our piggies". They are growing like weeds. I fully expect that the money I loaned will be paid back when she sells the pigs in a few months.
Case #2. About a year ago a pinay that I knew from when she was a hotel worker in Abu Dhabi came to me for advice. She had been in the US on a J visa working at a hotel and was now unemployed and back in the Phils. The IRS sent her a letter saying that she owed $1000 in back taxes from her J-visa work and that penalties would start shortly. She was panicked. I suggested that I pay it for her and that she pay me back when she could. With all of the info she gave me I was able to pay the IRS through the Internet in a matter of hours. For the next 7 months she continued to be unemployed. Three months ago she got a job. The last two months she has sent me $200/ mo and keeps apologizing that she can't send more. I fully expect she will pay the full $1000.
I only post this to show that there are some good ones out there but those who caution that, in many cases, you'll never see the loan again are correct. I try to judge success based on the girl's character viewed through the filter of Philippine culture.
WestCoast1
02-23-22, 17:22
I only post this to show that there are some good ones out there but those who caution that, in many cases, you'll never see he loan again are correct. I try to judge success based on the girl's character viewed through the filter of Philippine culture.These are good examples. I too have had ongoing business relationships in Phils that have worked, including pigs and loan agents. Also some that have failed. I dislike it when people make sweeping generalizations, such as: "Never trust a pinoy, if their lips are moving then they are lying", and such. That being said, there is also some truth to it. Most pinoy who ask to borrow money realize that if they don't pay it back, little will happen to them over that. Collecting money loaned over the internet is not enforceable. OTOH, most will refuse to sign a contract prior to the loan, as it forces them to be responsible. Its shocking the % of pinoy who will say "NO" to a contract after they ask for a loan. As an example, if a pinoy asks you to loan him p1500, and you show at his home with the 1500 and a contract to sign, he will likely change his tune and not want your money. That's very telling: he has no desire to actually pay it back, and he quite possibly did not need the money for his previously stated "emergency".
BTW, prior to the pandemic, the 'piggys' business could be lucrative.
AsianPursuits
02-23-22, 23:04
I only post this to show that there are some good ones out there but those who caution that, in many cases, you'll never see the loan again are correct. I try to judge success based on the girl's character viewed through the filter of Philippine culture.My original post was more about my thoughts on pre-payment. The girls were ask for 'help' rather than a loan.
My genuine loan experience have been positive. A) I fronted up some capital for a loans business which funded the pinay through her studies as well as developing her entrepreneurial skills. That was repaid. B) I paid a bargirls 'registration' fee for her ID card so she could work. I think it was P3K. Who knows if it was a genuine reason. When I arrived a few weeks later she handed me the cash in the evening then each morning for the next two days I handed it back.
I have also avoided quite a few 'deals' that didn't make any sense and could never be repaid. An otherwise unemployed girl that wanted P250 K for house renovations to be repaid over 12 months. Her family couldn't even feed themselves let alone make repayments.
Another deal was putting up capital for a fabrics business, buying dresses out of Manila and selling in the provinces. She was selling dresses on credit and not getting paid for 30 days. I spent an hour trying to show that the problem was the debtors not the inventory and that financing inventory would compound her problems.
I have 2 anecdotes about Pinays.
She's offended I dare ask for nudes...
ME: It's sex for money, not a girlfriend right? It's a transaction. You ever pay for something without looking at it first?
HER: I know. But I lost hope already. Because I'm not beautiful and sexy.
ME: so you say you don't look nice but I have to pay without looking first?
HER: I'm chubby not skinny but I'm not fat. I'm not beautiful but I think I'm not ugly, so you want meet me or not?
ME: "I respect totally you not wanting to send nude photos that's your choice" "We are all human with our limits".
she now is pissed...
HER: what is this. I really hate men asking pussy and boobs. Good customer never asked that. I promised. I meet 100 plus good clients never asked pussy and boobs.
They just pay, but many scumbags men fraud men asking only to fools girls so we never send. Nudes photos are okay but we never send pussy.
ME: ok, send the nude photos without pussy.
HER: no I am chubby and not pretty.
ME: (annoyed at this point), Chubby and ugly I can get for free. But I guess people pay you to leave without drama.
I blocked her before she could respond.
WTF, these girls think they can be treated like they're regular Tinder girlfriends? If it's P4 P then she's no more than a product. An enjoyable one, that deserves respect, but not flowers and the keys to your house.The second one is just using classic pressure tactics on you. A lot of weak willed guys out there will succumb to that like a slice of bread dipped in hot water.
GoodEnough
02-25-22, 10:17
The second one is just using classic pressure tactics on you. A lot of weak willed guys out there will succumb to that like a slice of bread dipped in hot water.Conversely, a lot of guys will not treat her as a convenient sperm receptacle, will respect her as a human being, will take her initial refusal at face value and just move on without feeling a compelling need to humiliate her. When you go to a new restaurant, do you request a taste of the food prior to ordering?
GE.
Conversely, a lot of guys will not treat her as a convenient sperm receptacle, will respect her as a human being, will take her initial refusal at face value and just move on without feeling a compelling need to humiliate her. When you go to a new restaurant, do you request a taste of the food prior to ordering?
GE.When I go to a new restaurant, I make sure to know the contents of the food I'm ordering so as to have an idea of what it'll taste like. If I'm abroad, like many of us are, and the menu is in a language I can't read and there are no pictures, would I still order randomly? My answer is hell to the no!
Mr Enternational
02-25-22, 15:34
If I'm abroad, like many of us are, and the menu is in a language I can't read and there are no pictures, would I still order randomly? My answer is hell to the no!LOL. Well they showed you the wrapper the food was in.
PedroMorales
02-25-22, 16:36
Most of these expats have never read a book and fewer yet have read Zola's Nana, which tells the story of Nana Coupeau's rise from streetwalker to high-class prostitute during the last three years of the French Second Empire. Zola describes her appearance: "All of a sudden, in the good-natured child the woman stood revealed, a disturbing woman with all the impulsive madness of her sex, opening the gates of the unknown world of desire. Nana was still smiling, but with the deadly smile of a man-eater."
Remember, most of these guys have no social skills and only get over priced pak pak when they pay for it. Go read Nana.
LOL. Well they showed you the wrapper the food was in.
When I go to a new restaurant, I make sure to know the contents of the food I'm ordering so as to have an idea of what it'll taste like. If I'm abroad, like many of us are, and the menu is in a language I can't read and there are no pictures, would I still order randomly? My answer is hell to the no!I'm lost here. If you want a fuck, call a hooker. If you want nudes call a cam girl. If your chosen one won't give what you want, move on to the '000's who will. What's so hard to understand? 😁.
Many girls won't do particular activities simply because it's not their thing. Expecting every girl to do every option is hopelessly optimistic.
AsianPursuits
02-25-22, 22:53
will take her initial refusal at face value and just move on without feeling a compelling need to humiliate her..This is an adjustment that needs to be made when travelling in Ph. As visitors we have to stop trying to fix everything. Stop complaining, stop pointing out that the floor moping method doesn't make sense, stop pointing out that the ATM should ne 1 metre to the right (undercover) instead of where they are building it. Just move on and let it be, same for the girls. We cannot change them.
Bunch of wise guys on here LOL.
A girl you're planning to see naked anyway and put your dick into for money is all of a sudden shy about letting you see the goods before you make the arrangement. For those who have been to brothels or RLD areas, do they bring the selections over to you covered from head to toe and leave you to guess which would be best?
Do you go to the bars and gogos in Bangkok / Pattaya / angeles and barfine girls wrapped in curtains "because they're shy?" It's amazing how much crap guys will allow working girls to get away with all in the name of defending some nonsensical idea of honour.
Yeah I agree, if she refuses your request, walk away. At the end of the day the guy did exactly that and the girl came back with a bunch of bull trying to pressure him into booking her anyway.
Bunch of wise guys on here LOL.
A girl you're planning to see naked anyway and put your dick into for money is all of a sudden shy about letting you see the goods before you make the arrangement. For those who have been to brothels or RLD areas, do they bring the selections over to you covered from head to toe and leave you to guess which would be best?
Do you go to the bars and gogos in Bangkok / Pattaya / angeles and barfine girls wrapped in curtains "because they're shy?" It's amazing how much crap guys will allow working girls to get away with all in the name of defending some nonsensical idea of honour.
Yeah I agree, if she refuses your request, walk away. At the end of the day the guy did exactly that and the girl came back with a bunch of bull trying to pressure him into booking her anyway.Shy could also mean that have, hmm, something down below they don't want you to see.
AsianPursuits
03-01-22, 03:54
Shy could also mean that have, hmm, something down below they don't want you to see.A video call is a must. Especially when the 'girl' says she has a sore throat aka male voice.
Lurkers,
Doing my normal reading of a news feed I ran across this gem in the "Ask Amy" advice column. Reading it, I wish I could have answered by directing the poor sap to this forum:
Ask Amy: 'I met a young woman online,' but now she wants more money for medical problems'.
Dear Amy: I met a young woman online about eight months ago and have messaged her regularly. We also have video calls because she lives in the Philippines. Long story short — she has a lot of issues with employment due to COVID-19, she has no family, her area was devastated by a typhoon, she has few friends, and health issues. She received a job offer in Canada and the company was going to pay for her airfare and put her up in company housing. She was supposed to start next month.
I helped her to buy clothing and prepare for the move, but now she has been diagnosed with medical problems and has to take a six-month treatment regimen for uterine cysts. I have helped her through many financial issues. I feel more of a father figure than a boyfriend and just feel a lot of pain for her. I am wondering how long I should help her financially. Should I cut the cord and tell her I cannot do this anymore? Although I could afford to help her, it is financially and emotionally draining. To top it off I am 69 years old and she is 26.
– Concerned.
Dear Concerned: I am genuinely sorry to be the bearer of this news, but every detail you have supplied about this person points to the likelihood that you are the victim of a "romance scam. " The missed opportunity for employment, the devastating typhoon, the near-miss move to North America – all of these dramatic episodes are designed to bait the hook and then to keep you on the hook, supplying more funds with each new drama that disrupts the relationship. Even the nature of her sudden-onset medical problems is a classic "tell. ".
There's one born every minute in the words of P. T. Barnum!
PedroMorales
03-02-22, 17:18
Lurkers,
Ask Amy: 'I met a young woman online,' but now she wants more money for medical problems'.Nice post but wrong in one important respect. The woman does need the money. I know as Bruno, my Nigerian friend in Lagos, is that woman.
AsianPursuits
04-08-22, 04:12
Still a few weeks to go until arrival and I am trying so hard not to kick off my Pinalove and various strategies for finding pinay in my target work area.
I did set up a new FB profile and added a few random Buy / Sell groups, local newspapers etc. Posting a few mundane public posts to get some history on the account news feed.
Even this simple act resulted in a conversation leading to a 30 yo single mum gym goer wanting to lock herself in for a weekend of staying over.
What it did remind me is that I don't need to start collecting and juggling contacts until the week at most prior to arriving.
Transporter
04-09-22, 00:36
Still a few weeks to go until arrival and I am trying so hard not to kick off my Pinalove and various strategies for finding pinay in my target work area. Even this simple act resulted in a conversation leading to a 30 yo single mum gym goer wanting to lock herself in for a weekend of staying over.
What it did remind me is that I don't need to start collecting and juggling contacts until the week at most prior to arriving.Very wise. Most cannot even plan more than a day in advance anyway. "no to schedule" is the mantra. Since they only think about their needs for today, planning anything most often ends up in a waste of time.
Still a few weeks to go until arrival and I am trying so hard not to kick off my Pinalove and various strategies for finding pinay in my target work area....Dude.
I admire your tenacity. Stay the course and it will pay dividends.
That's it, I'm soooo done putting in ground work on the online hookup sites!
Last trip to Davao.....
AsianPursuits
04-09-22, 08:27
Very wise. Most cannot even plan more than a day in advance anyway. "no to schedule" is the mantra. Since they only think about their needs for today, planning anything most often ends up in a waste of time.You are right. Even the ones I know from previous trips I don't need to plan ahead. They have their schedule and each day is like groundhog day anyway.
Soapy Smith
04-10-22, 23:13
They have their schedule and each day is like groundhog day anyway.Except it's warmer. Everyday in the Philippines is warmer than Pennsylvania in February. But the metaphor is good.
Yungtwntysluvr
04-18-22, 15:15
Is it possible to pay for a girl's lab tests there?
Do they sell morning after pills? I know the country is very Catholic l, so wasn't sure.
Any info would be appreciated.
Is it possible to pay for a girl's lab tests there?
Do they sell morning after pills? I know the country is very Catholic l, so wasn't sure.
Any info would be appreciated.Yes. Maybe.
Yes. Maybe.
How about plan be? Bring your own?
MohdirFan82
04-18-22, 18:12
Do not trust Pinay to find you a pill, the Philippines is a deeply catholic country. The condoms concept is almost nonexistent.
I will suggest you try to use protection, also bring your own morning-after pill, officially Morning pill is not approved or allowed to be sold in the Philippines.
Your Pinay has zero concern about you nutting in her, and getting prego, she will see this as a lifetime income opportunity from you.
Bring your own morning after pill, and the question is if she will take it. Its only effective within 72 hours after having sex. What if you stay with her more then a week.
So be careful.
Is it possible to pay for a girl's lab tests there?
Do they sell morning after pills? I know the country is very Catholic l, so wasn't sure.
Any info would be appreciated.
AsianPursuits
04-19-22, 02:11
Do not trust Pinay to find you a pill, The traditional contraceptive pill is available in most pharmacies. My GF used to buy it without prescription.
But obviously the pill needs to be taken correctly.
Condoms are available at 7_11 and many other convenience stores. I assume the local sari-sari may even sell them.
Girls whom ask about condoms have had lots of foreigner experience.
Is it possible to pay for a girl's lab tests there?
Do they sell morning after pills? I know the country is very Catholic l, so wasn't sure.
Any info would be appreciated.Normal BC can be used as a morning after pill. Research the protocol for the particular type of BC pill available.
For the most common types, it's four pills after sex, followed by another four pills 24 hours later.
RakSopheni
04-23-22, 00:48
Interesting video by Filipina Vlogger Rubeauti who makes the claim that Filipinas don't like rough play like face-slapping or dirty talk and are afraid of large penises:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jViyEW6TGts&list=PL3qIKKFJmVmS0clk_5FngjMyq8escpYVz&index=25
She then seems to disagree with herself- following up with the assertion that, well actually Filipinas DO like to be dominated. So which is it Rubeauti? Dominated gently? Vanilla sex with a slight edge? Could she be expressing her own preferences? Could this be what conservative province women tell each other to save face and then go wild in private?
I've only had experience with WG's, so can't vouch for civilians. Some seemed to go along with the rough play, some not so much- it was hard to quantify. All tried, at least, to be accommodating to some degree. This was somewhat before I explored my DeepThroat fetish in South / Central America so I am also curious about the prevalence of that fetish.
Board Members have any opinions on this issue?
I will be finally back this summer for a few months to test all hypothesis- see you guys soon!
RakS.
RakSopheni
04-23-22, 19:24
As a follow-up to my previous post here is Filipina Vlogger Des also making an appeal to Western Men to be gentle, kind, vanilla, and not to use sex-toys:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvM7bKlDLvQ&list=PL3qIKKFJmVmS0clk_5FngjMyq8escpYVz&index=14
Knowing that all women, everywhere will fuck hard if turned on by a physically attractive high value aggressive man, the subtext here is that her imagined audience is the older, less virile Beta foreigner males in the cast of schlubby Youtube Vloggers like Reekay Velez, Gio in the Philippines, or Paul's Asian Adventures. There is a sense of duty and necessity but no genuine desire in these sexual encounters, and so yes a gentle, non-taxing, minimally aerobic expedited deed heavy on sensual foreplay would be the preferred modality.
The red-pill is a flawed ideology, but I think the dictum "women make rules for Betas and break them for Alphas" holds here. If you can bring the the all of this wishy washy hemming and hawing goes away. For us mongers who deal with WG's who are often hyper-sexual due to childhood abuse- all this is much less applicable. I've had plenty of Filipina WG's who were wild in bed.
Curious what the BM's here think.
AsianPursuits
04-25-22, 14:19
As a follow-up to my previous post here is Filipina Vlogger Des also making an appeal to Western Men to be gentle, kind, vanilla, and not to use sex-toys:.I rarely have the patience to sit through any Filipina vlogger. Their audience is the Filipina who want to hear what you have just regurgitated.
Each person is an individual.
Pheasantplucker
06-02-22, 00:59
I have a long term GF in PI and am sure I am the only guy supporting her.
I haven't been able to visit her during the Covid period and will be returning in October but, in the meantime, we are discussing an increase in the allowance I send her.
She reckons that she needs P700-800 daily for food and drink alone so lets say P20 k per month.
Is that reasonable?
I also send her cash for other expenses on an ad hoc basis BTW.
All constructive comments appreciated.
PP.
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