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Yes, easier to find. Sure some are desperate and some want out of the PI but they are in the minority IMO. I think many bargirls are desperate but they do not represent all Filipinas. Cheers.All girls all over the world including USA want a well to do husband. Want a stable family with kids. Poor countries girls tend to be desperate. In USA the age difference counts a lot unless you are a multimillionaire. Others will marry any age as long as the man supports them. Atleast 6 of my girls in Philippines married much much older men and living in UK, Germany, Netherlands, France. I have kept in touch with atleast 3. None say they are really happy but with nothing to fall back at home they are stuck. Lots of Philippine girls would love to marry foreigners who live in Philippines. Many would love to go to USA but the path is not so simple.
Yes, if you are looking for a young wife irrespective of your age it is available in Philippines. There are plenty of very pretty girls from provinces who would have married me. But I told them right from the beginning that I am looking for fun only. If you are dead serious to marry you can even find virgins and take care of her. Love is not necessarily in the picture.
All girls all over the world including USA want a well to do husband. Want a stable family with kids. Poor countries girls tend to be desperate. In USA the age difference counts a lot unless you are a multimillionaire. Others will marry any age as long as the man supports them. Atleast 6 of my girls in Philippines married much much older men and living in UK, Germany, Netherlands, France. I have kept in touch with atleast 3. None say they are really happy but with nothing to fall back at home they are stuck. Lots of Philippine girls would love to marry foreigners who live in Philippines. Many would love to go to USA but the path is not so simple.
Yes, if you are looking for a young wife irrespective of your age it is available in Philippines. There are plenty of very pretty girls from provinces who would have married me. But I told them right from the beginning that I am looking for fun only. If you are dead serious to marry you can even find virgins and take care of her. Love is not necessarily in the picture.I'm not sure about all women and men wants a stable family, you only need to see he rising of singles person in western.
40 y ago was very common the marriages of women below 20 with men over 30 y old. I'm in that range.
Exactly. But the advices is be aware of how to find a correct housewife with the brain not too empty as treat the kids as vegetables or as sophisticated teddy beards. And what área has the strongest pretty women to do it, Davao provinces? Cities outside Dumaguete as San Carlos??
I'm young in modern times because I'm far of 40 y old. Unfortinately, in europe became common be childless until 40 y old or more.
I'm not sure about all women and men wants a stable family, you only need to see he rising of singles person in western.
Exactly. But the advices is be aware of how to find a correct housewife with the brain not too empty as treat the kids as vegetables or as sophisticated teddy beards. And what rea has the strongest pretty women to do it, Davao provinces? Cities outside Dumaguete as San Carlos??
I'm young in modern times because I'm far of 40 y old. Unfortinately, in europe became common be childless until 40 y old or more.Marrying a Philippine girl requires lots of effort. You do not want to marry a girl from dirt poor family. There would be lots of demands for money and such. There are decent families but they will not allow dating before marriage. I have had fun with couple of girls who had to give excuses to her parents so that she could be with me. I have had some virgins as well. If only her parents found out?
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. So the saying goes. There are beautiful girls and ugly girls everywhere. There are marriage brokers in Philippines. Why not contact them.
Roll Aides
02-10-24, 23:07
You want to find a girl here who's got a brain? Look for one WITH A JOB.
Not a cashier, for example. An actual job. Like, A career. Or, at least, a college student who is serious about it. One who's going to a good school wiht an intention to become a professional.
You want to squirt your cum in a million pussies and pound every little brown hole on the island for pesos? You've come to the right place. But you're here on ISG looking for. A WIFE? What the actual fuck?
Now, in fairness, the Philippines is possibly one of the only places on Earth where you can find a cute young beítch who will marry your old ass, and mean it, for love or something. But, if you are looking to HIRE one, you WILL end up with a 80-ish IQ province girl who wants you to support her illegitmate kids from her Filipino BF that ran out on her. If things go WELL.
There is nothing wrong with trading sex for money. That is why this board exists. If you try to extend that to with trading RELATIONSHIPS for money, then YOU are going to be the one that gets fucked. Particularly if you want them to "educate your kids. " Seriously this is one of the most insane things I have ever seen here. And I've been here long enough to see some shit.
ONLY wife up chicks that can support themselves, at a bare minimum.
At your peril.
Yes, it is possible.
Trading sex for money is for HOOKERS.
I'm not sure about all women and men wants a stable family, you only need to see he rising of singles person in western.
40 y ago was very common the marriages of women below 20 with men over 30 y old. I'm in that range.
Exactly. But the advices is be aware of how to find a correct housewife with the brain not too empty as treat the kids as vegetables or as sophisticated teddy beards. And what rea has the strongest pretty women to do it, Davao provinces? Cities outside Dumaguete as San Carlos??
I'm young in modern times because I'm far of 40 y old. Unfortinately, in europe became common be childless until 40 y old or more.
You want to find a girl here who's got a brain? Look for one WITH A JOB.
Not a cashier, for example. An actual job. Like, A career. Or, at least, a college student who is serious about it. One who's going to a good school wiht an intention to become a professional.
You want to squirt your cum in a million pussies and pound every little brown hole on the island for pesos? You've come to the right place. But you're here on ISG looking for. A WIFE? What the actual fuck?
Now, in fairness, the Philippines is possibly one of the only places on Earth where you can find a cute young betch who will marry your old ass, and mean it, for love or something. But, if you are looking to HIRE one, you WILL end up with a 80-ish IQ province girl who wants you to support her illegitmate kids from her Filipino BF that ran out on her. If things go WELL.
There is nothing wrong with trading sex for money. That is why this board exists. If you try to extend that to with trading RELATIONSHIPS for money, then YOU are going to be the one that gets fucked. Particularly if you want them to "educate your kids. " Seriously this is one of the most insane things I have ever seen here. And I've been here long enough to see some shit.
ONLY wife up chicks that can support themselves, at a bare minimum.
At your peril.
Yes, it is possible.
Trading sex for money is for HOOKERS.Maybe I didn't expres well, I'm early 30 y old, far from 40 y old. Paul asian adventure got a province gril with brain and smart being 55 y old and she 19 y old, I want to do the same because I'm younger.
As I told already, I had one educated girlfriend with bachelors degree work but she doesn't know nothing about house chores and she was too lazy as to take the risk of marry her.
I'm ok to have dates with a woman whitout sleep with her until marriage. I just would need to convince her parents to let her abroad to europ one month before marriage (my idea is Major marriage in europe to kept the Likely of divorce and after 1 y of good life together marriage in filipino church).
You want to find a girl here who's got a brain? Look for one WITH A JOB.
Not a cashier, for example. An actual job. Like, A career. Or, at least, a college student who is serious about it. One who's going to a good school wiht an intention to become a professional.
You want to squirt your cum in a million pussies and pound every little brown hole on the island for pesos? You've come to the right place. But you're here on ISG looking for. A WIFE? What the actual fuck?
Now, in fairness, the Philippines is possibly one of the only places on Earth where you can find a cute young betch who will marry your old ass, and mean it, for love or something. But, if you are looking to HIRE one, you WILL end up with a 80-ish IQ province girl who wants you to support her illegitmate kids from her Filipino BF that ran out on her. If things go WELL.
There is nothing wrong with trading sex for money. That is why this board exists. If you try to extend that to with trading RELATIONSHIPS for money, then YOU are going to be the one that gets fucked. Particularly if you want them to "educate your kids. " Seriously this is one of the most insane things I have ever seen here. And I've been here long enough to see some shit.
ONLY wife up chicks that can support themselves, at a bare minimum.
At your peril.
Yes, it is possible.
Trading sex for money is for HOOKERS.I asked about the salary, and what he means is like a discretionary spending account for them to use however they see fit. Like an allowance for them without touching the main account. That isn't as common nowadays, but lots of couples do it, and not just for the wife.
There are definitely a lot of pitfalls if you're looking for a filipina to take abroad. You're right that you should seek an educated girl, or at least one with a good head on her shoulders. One of mine has a BA in Economics and the other one was working since she was a young teenager, but is going to school now in her early 20's while she manages her own business. Education comes in different forms, but self-motivation is the common factor, and a drive to do well with whatever you do.
I will say, too, that Filipinas (provincial girls in particular) are prone to being very superstitious about almost anything. That was a little bit of culture shock to me 😅.
I was lucky enough to meet a lovely woman and her friends in Angeles and I posted a garbled account in the Angels thread. Today is Good Friday and my lady's friend was badgered to go back to work by some plump Chinese tramp. The Philippines has lots of lovely women but they get screwed over with slave wages and slave conditions. My lady is a keeper and would be perfect for me, except I am not. And nor is Don Malo, who should change the record.
I am thinking of returning in a few months and giving my lady the baby she needs. Though it is easy to mock their desire to procreate, it is an ambition, an effort to give meaning to their lives.
I am now 70 and she is less than half my age, a fact some have noted though she is cool with it (she thinks I am 20 years younger).
The Philippines has a lot of negatives: weather, poor infrastructure etc but women are a plus. Good, simple, no nonsense.
Mr Enternational
03-30-24, 02:42
I was lucky enough to meet a lovely woman and her friends in Angeles and I posted a garbled account in the Angels thread. Today is Good Friday and my lady's friend was badgered to go back to work by some plump Chinese tramp. The Philippines has lots of lovely women but they get screwed over with slave wages and slave conditions. My lady is a keeper and would be perfect for me, except I am not.What makes her a keeper? Have you seen her hold a constant job? Have you seen her cleaning and grocery shopping and have you tasted her cooking? Everything is relative. If they were not getting paid what you call slave wages then no foreigners (including yourself) would be there looking for cheap pussy. Any idea what they were being paid before slave wages? So you want them to make more in order to make yourself obsolete and no longer a necessity the same as it happened where most of us came from? Men are their own worst enemy. Somehow pussy always clouds their judgment.
What makes her a keeper? Have you seen her hold a constant job? Have you seen her cleaning and grocery shopping and have you tasted her cooking? Everything is relative. If they were not getting paid what you call slave wages then no foreigners (including yourself) would be there looking for cheap pussy. Any idea what they were being paid before slave wages? So you want them to make more in order to make yourself obsolete and no longer a necessity the same as it happened where most of us came from? Men are their own worst enemy. Somehow pussy always clouds their judgment.I have just got off wattsapp with her watching her in a regular job. I visited her regular job every day. I helped her clean her place. Most Pinays working in Angeles don't cook as they don;'t have the facilities for it. Some dirty foreigners do even though the facilities are not there; they don't even wash up, pigs that they are. Odd you mention shopping as that is a luxury if you work 6 long days a week, fro 500 PHP max a day, but you would know none of that. Like many others she cooks rice to save on buying it. She saves hard on her pittance. No boob jobs or skin whitening so maybe not your sort.
As regards the middle part of your post, I respect and feel for people who are being fucked around, as the vast majority of Pinoys are. And don't give me your crap. Foreigners, Chinese and rich Pinoys have milked them down the ages. I prefer their company and their quiet heroism to decrepit losers in Walking St.
WestCoast1
03-30-24, 11:46
Men are their own worst enemy. Somehow pussy always clouds their judgment.Wisdom I could have used decades ago. . .
Mr Enternational
03-30-24, 15:15
Odd you mention shopping as that is a luxury if you work 6 long days a week, fro 500 PHP max a day, but you would know none of that.Not sure why you think I would not know any of that. I do have a girlfriend in Angeles that works a normal job. She works 7 long days a week and lives an hour away by jeepney.
No boob jobs or skin whitening so maybe not your sort.Not sure why you suppose it may not be my sort. I like whoever likes me. My girlfriend in Angeles is naturally light skinned. And if she was dark that would not matter one bit to me.
I respect and feel for people who are being fucked around, as the vast majority of Pinoys are. And don't give me your crap. Foreigners, Chinese and rich Pinoys have milked them down the ages.How are they being fucked aroud by being paid what people there make? You do realize that if wages go up then the prices do as well? It is not just magically pay more and everything else remains the same. I think it is Monday when fast food workers in California start getting paid $20 per hour. It will be interesting to see what happens. I was watching some news clip were some were already fired because the places can not afford to pay them that. So was it better to be making the $15 that they were making or be home making $0 because somebody that meant well thought they should have been making $20?
Same as the mfs that meant well wanted to close all the mental hospitals in the States. Now the folks that would have otherwise been taken care of in those facilities are where? Right. On the streets homeless. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
All I was saying is that it is best to live with someone before talking about how good they would be to marry. You never really know a person until you live with them. And even then you still may not really know them.
WestCoast1
03-31-24, 01:22
Trading sex for money is for HOOKERS.Sounds like marriage to me.
I was lucky enough to meet a lovely woman and her friends in Angeles and I posted a garbled account in the Angels thread. Today is Good Friday and my lady's friend was badgered to go back to work by some plump Chinese tramp. The Philippines has lots of lovely women but they get screwed over with slave wages and slave conditions. My lady is a keeper and would be perfect for me, except I am not. And nor is Don Malo, who should change the record.
I am thinking of returning in a few months and giving my lady the baby she needs. Though it is easy to mock their desire to procreate, it is an ambition, an effort to give meaning to their lives.
I am now 70 and she is less than half my age, a fact some have noted though she is cool with it (she thinks I am 20 years younger).
The Philippines has a lot of negatives: weather, poor infrastructure etc but women are a plus. Good, simple, no nonsense.I think the main problem here is that you posted this on a forum for mongers. Most readers are men who are not looking for a relationship, but just no strings attached sex, and will not appreciate this post or sentiment. I'm not saying that's good or bad, but it is true.
But I do appreciate your thoughts. I've been on both sides. I have a Filipina wife and girlfriend +, and I have seen my fair share of Filipinas for mongering, too. But, sometimes you meet that one girl who changes everything for you. It changes how you look (or don't look) at other women, and what you will and will not do. For me, I love my wife, but I still played the game. But when I met my new lady, I lost that desire. Honestly, the girls I met for "fun" gave me better sex, but what I felt when I was with her, and the energy from her, is something I haven't gotten from anyone else, and I don't want anyone else. I love the fact I can call at anytime and she answers right away. I don't worry about where she is and who she is with or what she is doing because she tells me without me asking. And usually calls to show me. And I did give her a baby, due in a few months, so I get it, and a one year-old with my wife. And several kids with my first wife. I could have a softball team by now! But that's the beautiful thing. Everyone has their own preferences and desires. As long as it isn't hurting anyone, then enjoy!
Mr Enternational
03-31-24, 11:55
but what I felt when I was with her, and the energy from her, is something I haven't gotten from anyone else, and I don't want anyone else.Now how would that energy be if you realized 6 months after marrying her that she did not clean up behind herself or always got in the bed at night without taking a shower? Being on vacation hanging out with chicks is one thing; living with them or marrying them is something totally different.
I think the main problem here is that you posted this on a forum for mongers. Most readers are men who are not looking for a relationship, but just no strings attached sex, and will not appreciate this post or sentiment. I'm not saying that's good or bad, but it is true.There are countless similar posts to mine. I am more interested in takes on the sidewalks, on those lethal trikes, on where to change money and on the cheap food than weak porno descriptions. We all know where to get hookers. It is not, as they say, rocket science.
I gave the flower seller my underpants as she was broke. I looked at her sleeping naked on my bed. Pretty bit too jaded to be sexy, at least for me. I look at those women around rthe Roman Hotel and take a deep breath. Walking St and Balibago is just one small piece of Angeles and there is a big life beyond it.
I threw a post out there to see what guys thought. My girl is a keeper. I am not but I do appreciate such folk.
In our little commune, there was a bar girl (with a Korean paying the bills, as they all have). They are as predictable as a baby and a waste of money. Nice but tainted by being with too many morons.
Roll Aides
04-03-24, 20:35
Sounds like marriage to me.Touché. Still don't recommend it.
But that's the beautiful thing. Everyone has their own preferences and desires. As long as it isn't hurting anyone, then enjoy!Well said Aml. There's some really great input here on this forum and also genuine advice. But everyone has their own desires. If I can see a bloke's going to drop a heap of cash on a bar girl who's told them they love them on the first catch-up, then I usually give them a gentle warning. Ultimately they'll work it out. Just enjoy the Filipinas I say. Phil.
I saw a post on FB a while ago, it was a repost of one from the dating group, the guy was 100% honest and blunt as to what he wanted, short petite, open minded willing to stay home cook clean and fuck. Offered a pretty generous allowance.
I have never been that blunt on dating site profiles, but have thought about it. I have cone close, perhaps a little too vague for someone whose second language is English.
Anyone try something along those lines? How did it work out?
I am thinking a lot fewer responses, some pros and scammers but perhaps a few good gems for live in relationship?
I saw a post on FB a while ago, it was a repost of one from the dating group, the guy was 100% honest and blunt as to what he wanted, short petite, open minded willing to stay home cook clean and fuck. Offered a pretty generous allowance.
I have never been that blunt on dating site profiles, but have thought about it. I have cone close, perhaps a little too vague for someone whose second language is English.
Anyone try something along those lines? How did it work out?
I am thinking a lot fewer responses, some pros and scammers but perhaps a few good gems for live in relationship?I am commonly very frank with girls in the aps. Especially towards the end of a trip when my dance card is full and I've got nothing to loose or later at night when I don't want to play all the good girl games. It's surprisingly successful and time effective. Many girls who have good girl profiles quickly agree to debauchery.
I've found it more effective to get straight to the point in messages rather than the profiles but YMMV. Brutally frank profiles can scare off curious girls. However, at the messaging stage they need little convincing. It's very effective at quickly weeding out the time wasters.
Enjoy. G.
WestCoast1
06-15-24, 03:08
I saw a post on FB a while ago, it was a repost of one from the dating group, the guy was 100% honest and blunt as to what he wanted, short petite, open minded willing to stay home cook clean and fuck. Offered a pretty generous allowance.
I have never been that blunt on dating site profiles, but have thought about it. I have cone close, perhaps a little too vague for someone whose second language is English.
Anyone try something along those lines? How did it work out?Looking for adventurous lady to go around with when I am in your town. I like to travel, eat, drink, and I enjoy music and live band. Following that, a good evening is when we turn up the heat together at my place after going out. I am not interested in LTR or marriage; if you are seeking LTR then find another profile. I am kind and generous to loving lady. Contact me only if you are interested.
And:
Looking for adventurous lady to go around with when I am in your town. I like to travel, eat, drink, and I enjoy music and live band. Yes I like the beach also, but a good evening is when we stay up all night together -- caliente! I am kind and generous. Contact me if your interested.
I think we posted on this topic about 6-7 years ago. I think I mentioned that I had used up-front dating profile messages like the above and was successful with them. The first one was similar to one that I used for several years, 2010-2013-ish. It was different than anything I'd seen before. The actual profile message was actually just a tad harsher than the one above. It quickly eliminated a lot of ladies looking only for LTR. OTOH not all of them, as some ladies who contacted me who said they were fine with spending a few days / nights with me professed on their own profile that they were seeking LTR only. I never made first contact with any girls when using this type of profile, I waited to see who contacted me first. Hence, even though the profile got fewer initial replies than a regular profile -- "I like long walks on the beach, holding hands blah blah" -- those that replied were in the game from the start.
Around 2015 I created a new such DIA profile using similar language, and it didn't get approved. I was told to tone it down, so I did (see the second profile message). That one flew and I was back off to the races. I've never had or left a profile up for more than 90 days. Putting it up a week or so before entering the country, and taking it down upon returning to my home country was plenty.
Caveat: I also got initial responses from ladies who were upset with the profile itself, and some asked me to take it down, or reported it to Admin. Such is life. Also I move the conversation to WA or other off-site app ASAP, immediately if possible. I blocked girls in the dating site who contacted me and didn't have my off-site apps.
I am not sure if that would fly at all today.
KenjiYoshioka
07-23-24, 08:16
And I finally got around to making this report.
As a general rule, if you're going to try to date a Pinay you should know a few things.
#1 - If a girl agrees to come over to your place, she expects to get fucked. I never once had a girl come over to see me who didn't immeditately go to my bedroom and let me have my way with them. This is part of the culture. Goddamn the PI rocks.
#2 - A great and large % of the dates you make with Pinay girls will end up with them flaking on you. Some of them will cancel at the last minute. Most of them will just straight up ghost you. Be prepared for that. Double and triple book your afternoons, evenings, nights, late nights, and next mornings. Make dates when you plan to go out and scour the land for pussy. That's how they play the game; don't be a simp. Play the game how they play it.
#3 - Pinays will never ask you to wear a condom. However, if you cum in them most of them will be flabbergasted, offended even. Like, "I just let you rawdog the fuck out of my pussy. How dare you cum in me!" Then if they run off to get some emergency contraceptive method going, you may never see them again.
#4 - There seems to be an unspoken rule between Pinays. Lots of girls will finger themselves and rub their pussy juice behind one of your ears. This is not necessarily to mark their territory. Sometimes they just want to warn other girls that they fucked this guy recently. Make sure you shower after fucking any girl, and wash behind your ears you disgusting fucks. Brush your teeth too.
#5 - Lots of girls won't fuck you unless you offer them money. You can debate all day what kind of girl asks for money; that is not the point of this post. This phenomenon, however, seems to be more prevalent in larger cities like Manila where foreigners with money can be found.
#4 - There seems to be an unspoken rule between Pinays. Lots of girls will finger themselves and rub their pussy juice behind one of your ears. This is not necessarily to mark their territory. Sometimes they just want to warn other girls that they fucked this guy recently. Make sure you shower after fucking any girl, and wash behind your ears you disgusting fucks. Brush your teeth too..How big was your sample to note this rule. What is it? You go to a bar and some hooker you were with puts her hands in her panties and goes up to you and sexually assaults you as you described? Then, her mates, duly warned, say, right, leave that guy whose ears smell of fish alone? Why the toothpaste? Is DATY mandatory?
And I finally got around to making this report.
As a general rule, if you're going to try to date a Pinay you should know a few things.
#1 - If a girl agrees to come over to your place, she expects to get fucked...
#2 - A great and large % of the dates you make with Pinay girls will end up with them flaking on you..
#3 - Pinays will never ask you to wear a condom.
#4 - There seems to be an unspoken rule between Pinays....
#5 - Lots of girls won't fuck you unless you offer them money...#1. True. If a girl is in your room shortly after you met, then she's either room service or DTF. Occasionally both but that's rare. She definitely isn't there for idle conversation.
#2. Very true. Except I've never had a girl cancel on me. It's much more common to simply no-show. Often she will then call in a day or two as of nothing happened. Four hours late is also very common. As is 'Mary couldn't come but I'm her cousin'.
#3. Girls ask. But them mysteriously forget when up in the room. It's exceedingly rare for them to insist. I've never had suprise at CIP but they do become understandably angry if promises not to were broken.
#4. I've never been wet behind the ears with pussy juice or anything else.
#5. Not true. Many girls like to pretend to be good girls. Of course the majority won't reject an offer of 'taxi fares'. It's not unheard of though for girls to refuse any payment at all.
Enjoy. G.
WestCoast1
07-24-24, 09:26
And I finally got around to making this report.
#4 - There seems to be an unspoken rule between Pinays. Lots of girls will finger themselves and rub their pussy juice behind one of your ears. This is not necessarily to mark their territory. Sometimes they just want to warn other girls that they fucked this guy recently. Make sure you shower after fucking any girl, and wash behind your ears you disgusting fucks. Brush your teeth too.Gives new meaning to "he's wet behind the ears".
Good post even if late. Worthy of a pic. Get some.
MohdirFan82
07-29-24, 15:55
Been talking this Fillipina for a good 5 months.
In pictures, video she looked great.
Here we go, stupid me. Booked Airbnb together for 3 days, met her and she suddenly dropped 5 points.
From 8 to 3. Absolutely can't believe my eyes, she looks almost nothing like video call, pictures.
Had to cut meeting short to just 1 day, and had to let her go.
I was so happy, I was getting what I really liked at least 8.
Lesson learned, I apologized to her hundreds of time, I can't spend another day with her.
Spend good money if her for 5 months oh well never again.
Mr Enternational
07-29-24, 20:26
Here we go, stupid me. Booked Airbnb together for 3 days, met her and she suddenly dropped 5 points.
From 8 to 3. Absolutely can't believe my eyes, she looks almost nothing like video call, pictures. Had to cut meeting short to just 1 day, and had to let her go. I was so happy, I was getting what I really liked...
Lesson learned, I apologized to her hundreds of time, I can't spend another day with her.
Spend good money if her for 5 months oh well never again.Now that is funny. How many times has it been said. But you can't tell a grown man what to do with his money.
In pictures, video she looked great.
Here we go, stupid me. Booked Airbnb together for 3 days, met her and she suddenly dropped 5 points.
From 8 to 3. Absolutely can't believe my eyes, she looks almost nothing like video call, pictures.Wow, I'm wondering how is that even possible. I mean, how can there be such a discrepancy since you at least video called her (filters, bad lightning, bad visibility)? What were the main differences?
Would you mind sharing her profile (if it's not against the rules)?
Locamotive
07-30-24, 18:37
Been talking this Fillipina for a good 5 months.
In pictures, video she looked great.
Here we go, stupid me. Booked Airbnb together for 3 days, met her and she suddenly dropped 5 points.
From 8 to 3. Absolutely can't believe my eyes, she looks almost nothing like video call, pictures.
Had to cut meeting short to just 1 day, and had to let her go.
I was so happy, I was getting what I really liked at least 8.
Lesson learned, I apologized to her hundreds of time, I can't spend another day with her.
Spend good money if her for 5 months oh well never again.This goes back to the saying Boots on the ground. You need to be there even if doing online which I never do for this and other reasons. I like to see what I'm buying in person. If you're there at least you can meet for coffee or something without spending allot. I know they use many filters on photos but did not know it applied to videos. The Filipina's seem to be experts on this technology, so if possible they can do it. Thanks for a word to the wise post.
WestCoast1
07-31-24, 00:48
Hello, I'm single again. I need to find the correct wife.
Do you have advices to find a woman like this one?
https://youtu.be/dOiU55spJIo?si=nP3tEEHgBOZmDP7I
My idea is look into provinces, looking for an innocent woman between 18-20 y old. Am I wrong? As I told before, I will pay to her monthly a salary as house wife (around 40 k pesos once abroad) and 30 k pesos to her family, to make them happy but I need a good housewife from their daughter.Well DM, did you find that special girl (tradwife) in Phils? I found a similar video. Gents, girls like these can easily be found in Phils.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4rUKQ5oWGc
KenjiYoshioka
08-02-24, 07:28
How big was your sample to note this rule. What is it? You go to a bar and some hooker you were with puts her hands in her panties and goes up to you and sexually assaults you as you described? Then, her mates, duly warned, say, right, leave that guy whose ears smell of fish alone? Why the toothpaste? Is DATY mandatory?You're funny. I wouldn't DATY a hooker if my life depended on it; because it does if you do. I suppose the humor in the statement was lost on you.
KenjiYoshioka
08-02-24, 07:30
Been talking this Fillipina for a good 5 months.
In pictures, video she looked great.
Here we go, stupid me. Booked Airbnb together for 3 days, met her and she suddenly dropped 5 points.
From 8 to 3. Absolutely can't believe my eyes, she looks almost nothing like video call, pictures.
Had to cut meeting short to just 1 day, and had to let her go.
I was so happy, I was getting what I really liked at least 8.
Lesson learned, I apologized to her hundreds of time, I can't spend another day with her.
Spend good money if her for 5 months oh well never again.You didn't video chat with her before meeting? Rookie mistake.
KenjiYoshioka
08-02-24, 07:37
#1. True. If a girl is in your room shortly after you met, then she's either room service or DTF. Occasionally both but that's rare. She definitely isn't there for idle conversation.
#2. Very true. Except I've never had a girl cancel on me. It's much more common to simply no-show. Often she will then call in a day or two as of nothing happened. Four hours late is also very common. As is 'Mary couldn't come but I'm her cousin'.
#3. Girls ask. But them mysteriously forget when up in the room. It's exceedingly rare for them to insist. I've never had suprise at CIP but they do become understandably angry if promises not to were broken.
#4. I've never been wet behind the ears with pussy juice or anything else.
#5. Not true. Many girls like to pretend to be good girls. Of course the majority won't reject an offer of 'taxi fares'. It's not unheard of though for girls to refuse any payment at all.
Enjoy. G.Also to note, I write in hyperbole about #3. In my experience, if they didn't say anything about it beforehand, they didn't seem to mind.
Locamotive
08-02-24, 20:51
Also to note, I write in hyperbole about #3. In my experience, if they didn't say anything about it beforehand, they didn't seem to mind.Yeah about #3 always found that one odd. Around S. E Asia many countries sell the morning after pill, very cheap. I usually keep a few boxes with me at all times. While not one to CIP sometimes it happens. I'd rather finish with BJ, but if girli really hot and feels great, we've all been there. On last visit had one of those as she was even moaning cum in me baby, haha that was all it took. Later we are chatting and I said with your request earlier I assume you're on the pill. Nope. Ok well are you on any other type birth control. Nope. Did you think there was something wrong with me? Didn't think about it but no not really. Darling you are young beautiful girl with your whole life ahead of you, getting pregnant by some old fart like me is not a good idea. Oh she says I'll be ok, haven't got pregnant yet. I see, well how many foreigner's so far, she grins and says you are the third one, I like western men. Uh yeah I'm sure you do but you must be more careful. I know guys here who visit, they give you no correct info from their names or where they are from so if you think a Western baby could be your salvation you are wrong. Here take this we don't want any accidents. You do realize one day your luck will run out, no answer. This attitude has always confused me, especially when BC pills are so cheap. Maybe some sex education earlier on would help, but then again probably not.
MohdirFan82
08-03-24, 04:05
On video call I only managed to see face and few here and there poses in mirror. From the face looked great didn't much noticed, she shaped like a little frog.
It's like someone dropped a bomb, I had absurd stunners in the past from province but this trip went down the toilet.
Wow, I'm wondering how is that even possible. I mean, how can there be such a discrepancy since you at least video called her (filters, bad lightning, bad visibility)? What were the main differences?
Would you mind sharing her profile (if it's not against the rules)?
WestCoast1
08-03-24, 05:34
Here take this we don't want any accidents. You do realize one day your luck will run out, no answer. This attitude has always confused me, especially when BC pills are so cheap. Maybe some sex education earlier on would help, but then again probably not.Your assumption is that she does not want to get pregnant. Her assumption might not be the same.
You didn't video chat with her before meeting? Rookie mistake.Read his post again regarding V Chat.
Expat American
08-03-24, 10:51
Yeah about #3 always found that one odd. Around S. E Asia many countries sell the morning after pill, very cheap. I usually keep a few boxes with me at all times. While not one to CIP sometimes it happens. I'd rather finish with BJ, but if girli really hot and feels great, we've all been there. On last visit had one of those as she was even moaning cum in me baby, haha that was all it took. Later we are chatting and I said with your request earlier I assume you're on the pill. Nope. Ok well are you on any other type birth control. Nope. Did you think there was something wrong with me? Didn't think about it but no not really. Darling you are young beautiful girl with your whole life ahead of you, getting pregnant by some old fart like me is not a good idea. Oh she says I'll be ok, haven't got pregnant yet. I see, well how many foreigner's so far, she grins and says you are the third one, I like western men. Uh yeah I'm sure you do but you must be more careful. I know guys here who visit, they give you no correct info from their names or where they are from so if you think a Western baby could be your salvation you are wrong. Here take this we don't want any accidents. You do realize one day your luck will run out, no answer. This attitude has always confused me, especially when BC pills are so cheap. Maybe some sex education earlier on would help, but then again probably not.You can thank the Pope for that. Philippines is one of the most staunch catholic countries in the world. No divorce, no abortion and discouraged from birth control. The girls there may be in their 20's but their education and awareness is less than an American middle schooler when it comes to sex. They like to fuck and that's about it. They live day to day. You can't expect them to think ahead in any fashion.
I thought morning after pills aren't available in Philippines. At least that's what Watson chick said when I went there with my spinner. They just have regular birth control pills, IUD and Injections.
Your assumption is that she does not want to get pregnant. Her assumption might not be the same.
Hello, I'm single again. I need to find the correct wife.
Do you have advices to find a woman like this one?
https://youtu.be/dOiU55spJIo?si=nP3tEEHgBOZmDP7I
My idea is look into provinces, looking for an innocent woman between 18-20 y old. Am I wrong? As I told before, I will pay to her monthly a salary as house wife (around 40 k pesos once abroad) and 30 k pesos to her family, to make them happy but I need a good housewife from their daughter.The house in the video looks messy AF.
I have a full time maid who keeps the house spic and span and also cooks yummy food.
Why do you need a wife to do all that if you are willing to pay for housework?
Sounds like marriage to me.Hahaha. Not the best trade.
Your assumption is that she does not want to get pregnant. Her assumption might not be the same.99.7% Pinays assumptions are being pregnant is a blessing. Most are led to believe that.
BTW, plan be or Morning after pills are illegal in PH. And aren't sold in PH. Bring your supply for sure.
I thought morning after pills aren't available in Philippines. At least that's what Watson chick said when I went there with my spinner. They just have regular birth control pills, IUD and Injections.
99.7% Pinays assumptions are being pregnant is a blessing. Most are led to believe that.
BTW, plan be or Morning after pills are illegal in PH. And aren't sold in PH. Bring your supply for sure.I've never bought them myself but I've known several girls who profess to using Plan be. True or not, who knows but the girls are definitely aware of it.
+1 on pinas having a primary school knowledge of sex-ed and regarding an unplanned pregnancy as a minor inconvenience.
Enjoy. G.
I'm sure to dig deeper into Plan be this time. This definitely would make my life easier specially with convincing girls to take those injections which for some reason each pina is resilient to it. There common answer is, I'm sacred of needles 😁.
I've never bought them myself but I've known several girls who profess to using Plan be. True or not, who knows but the girls are definitely aware of it.
+1 on pinas having a primary school knowledge of sex-ed and regarding an unplanned pregnancy as a minor inconvenience.
Enjoy. G.
I'm sure to dig deeper into Plan be this time. This definitely would make my life easier specially with convincing girls to take those injections which for some reason each pina is resilient to it. There common answer is, I'm sacred of needles 😁.Are you talking about the 3/6 month lasting contraceptive injections? Many girls, especially working girls, shy away for fear of gaining weight. It's a real fear. I've seen girls gain 10 lb after giving them a go.
G.
I was referring to the 1 month one, that's what my Mindanao girl telling me. You probably would know more about these than me. So the actual fear is weight gain but not the needle itself 😁.
I think I'm just going to pick up 3/4 dose's of Plan be from Jakarta before heading to Manila. Don't want to take risk and not finding availability in Manila.
Are you talking about the 3/6 month lasting contraceptive injections? Many girls, especially working girls, shy away for fear of gaining weight. It's a real fear. I've seen girls gain 10 lb after giving them a go.
G.
Expat American
08-06-24, 08:14
I was referring to the 1 month one, that's what my Mindanao girl telling me. You probably would know more about these than me. So the actual fear is weight gain but not the needle itself 😁.
I think I'm just going to pick up 3/4 dose's of Plan be from Jakarta before heading to Manila. Don't want to take risk and not finding availability in Manila.I assume this is for non bar girls correct? If you do take a "normal" girl for a week or so the Plan be makes a lot of sense. For one night encounters I wouldn't bother. If they don't know my name and are fucking a dozen guys a week, what's the need?
..For one night encounters I wouldn't bother. If they don't know my name and are fucking a dozen guys a week, what's the need?It's amazing how many of said girls don't consider themselves hookers, getting pregnant "will never happen to me" and, of course, the guy (s) should shoulder all the blame and responsibility. As you said, these are despite bare backing as many guys as humanly possible.
Modern feminism at its finest. 😊.
G.
WestCoast1
08-07-24, 01:51
It's amazing how many of said girls don't consider themselves hookers, getting pregnant "will never happen to me" and, of course, the guy (s) should shoulder all the blame and responsibility. As you said, these are despite bare backing as many guys as humanly possible.A bit like this chocolate rose?
You are correct, these are all non-pro / non-bar girls. Just regular girls. 3 of them I met on dating sites. 2 of them from my spinner connection. I don't do BBFS with bar / massage girls.
I learned the lesson of not telling my full name / real name. So yeah. They won't know who I was 😁.
I'm definitely going to pickup at least 6 doses from Jakarta. Won't risk it in PL just for the fear of not being available but I will definitely inquire with the pharmacies once I'm there. Just out of curiosity, plan be is taken at 72 hrs mark right? And do they take both pills at same time or just one?
I assume this is for non bar girls correct? If you do take a "normal" girl for a week or so the Plan be makes a lot of sense. For one night encounters I wouldn't bother. If they don't know my name and are fucking a dozen guys a week, what's the need?
I'm definitely going to pickup at least 6 doses from Jakarta....
Just out of curiosity, plan be is taken at 72 hrs mark right? And do they take both pills at same time or just one?I read that as you plan to get clapped up six times in Jakarta. Not a total impossibility. 😁.
Also, how does it work if you have fucked her five times over three days? What does she take and when? I too have no idea of the dosages.
Regardless, relying on any Pina, civilian or bar girl, to do anything in a precise and timely manner seems very ambitious to me.
Enjoy. G.
Hahahha. Relying on a pina! Tell me about it!
I've seen revolving doors that are more stable than a mind of a pina. You can probably predict next election more accurately over the mysterious mind of Pina.
My Cagayan one possibly has a self reset button which is malfunctioning by default. It's like constantly discussing the same thing over and over. I'm almost at a state that, I might just ditch her!
Dr Google says, 1 dose (2 pills) every 72 hrs. My total length of stay in PL is about 3 weeks.
My nanny who is very submissive is going to get the injection and there is no worries of weight gain as she can definitely use few extra pounds 😬.
My spinner would not do BBBFS, I literally gave up on convincing her so it will be capped. Her cousin has IUD.
My Batangas or Batangeuna has agreed to take the injection as well.
That's leaves me with Cagayan one, which I am not going to discuss any further with her. If she comes, it will be BBFS, now whether she takes pills, injection or IUD, entirely up to her 😉.
My GI Jane, whom I'm reluctant to meet and here is why, she already gave birth of 4 kids, I'm not too sure if her reproductive organs still qualifies for pleasurable penetration or not 😁. Besides why GI Jane, she just finished her Army type training and became a police now. That's being said, I don't want to Jeopardize my sexpedition career in Philippines. An average cop in PL is bad enough, now if that turns into an ex girlfriend, I don't think I want to picture that or be on the National Geographic Channels next episode of Jailed in Philippines 😅.
I read that as you plan to get clapped up six times in Jakarta. Not a total impossibility. 😁.
Also, how does it work if you have fucked her five times over three days? What does she take and when? I too have no idea of the dosages.
Regardless, relying on any Pina, civilian or bar girl, to do anything in a precise and timely manner seems very ambitious to me.
Enjoy. G.
WestCoast1
08-10-24, 00:49
Hahahha. Relying on a pina! Tell me about it!
I've seen revolving doors that are more stable than a mind of a pina. You can probably predict next election more accurately over the mysterious mind of Pina.
SNIP
Dr Google says, 1 dose (2 pills) every 72 hrs. My total length of stay in PL is about 3 weeks.Related story. Recently, long-time regular Jane was due in at 1 pm for some afternoon splendor. At 12 noon, a txt: "Westy have emergency. Don't have control pills. Can't f*ck no pills. Need control". Sweetie when did you have your last batch of pills? "Some weeks. I forgot". I see, sweetie. How much do the pills cost? "P60". Well, THAT MUCH! Tell you what, I will GC p100 to you, for the pills and fare. "Thank you see you soon". She showed about 1:30 (roughly 'on-time' for her). She showed me the blister pack and the first pill was missing. "I drink a control. We can f*cking". Not a medical expert, but wondering if BC pills provide any pregnancy protection for at least a few days, a week maybe?
Related story. Recently, long-time regular Jane was due in at 1 pm for some afternoon splendor. At 12 noon, a txt: "Westy have emergency. Don't have control pills. Can't f*ck no pills. Need control". Sweetie when did you have your last batch of pills? "Some weeks. I forgot". I see, sweetie. How much do the pills cost? "P60". Well, THAT MUCH! Tell you what, I will GC p100 to you, for the pills and fare. "Thank you see you soon". She showed about 1:30 (roughly 'on-time' for her). She showed me the blister pack and the first pill was missing. "I drink a control. We can f*cking". Not a medical expert, but wondering if BC pills provide any pregnancy protection for at least a few days, a week maybe?It should provide at least some protection for her. It depends on what brand it is. Most of the daily pills have to be taken at roughly the same time everyday, except when on your period. Then you start taking it when your period is finished again.
I need to have a setup like you with on call ready shag option 😁. I bet you had some peace of mind action.
Here what Dr Google said and also those Tele doctors who that you can get advice for a fee from your cell phone provider.
5 regular BC equivalent to 1 dose of Plan be. Now I can't picture Pina taking 5 pils at a time, unless several desperate.
On a side note, want to shed some light on GC, I'm guessing it's G cash! How do I open an account and load money in it? Once Again Dr Google said I can transfer from my bank account but I don't have a local bank account in PL.
Related story. Recently, long-time regular Jane was due in at 1 pm for some afternoon splendor. At 12 noon, a txt: "Westy have emergency. Don't have control pills. Can't f*ck no pills. Need control". Sweetie when did you have your last batch of pills? "Some weeks. I forgot". I see, sweetie. How much do the pills cost? "P60". Well, THAT MUCH! Tell you what, I will GC p100 to you, for the pills and fare. "Thank you see you soon". She showed about 1:30 (roughly 'on-time' for her). She showed me the blister pack and the first pill was missing. "I drink a control. We can f*cking". Not a medical expert, but wondering if BC pills provide any pregnancy protection for at least a few days, a week maybe?
Forgot to mention, that telle doctor also said, for regular pills, it's needs to be taken for at least 5-7 days to ensure any unwanted accidents. Word for word 😁.
Related story. Recently, long-time regular Jane was due in at 1 pm for some afternoon splendor. At 12 noon, a txt: "Westy have emergency. Don't have control pills. Can't f*ck no pills. Need control". Sweetie when did you have your last batch of pills? "Some weeks. I forgot". I see, sweetie. How much do the pills cost? "P60". Well, THAT MUCH! Tell you what, I will GC p100 to you, for the pills and fare. "Thank you see you soon". She showed about 1:30 (roughly 'on-time' for her). She showed me the blister pack and the first pill was missing. "I drink a control. We can f*cking". Not a medical expert, but wondering if BC pills provide any pregnancy protection for at least a few days, a week maybe?
WestCoast1
08-10-24, 06:32
On a side note, want to shed some light on GC, I'm guessing it's G cash! How do I open an account and load money in it? Once Again Dr Google said I can transfer from my bank account but I don't have a local bank account in PL.Yes GC. You will need to download the app first, then create an account in the app. After that, you will need to 'verify' your account (a process where you will have to send your selfie and a pic of your valid ID to GC, or alternately they will video call with you and make you show your face and your ID to the cam), connecting your identity to the phone and SIM card*. Once you are verified, you can send / receive cash. My GC is not connected directly to my foreign bank account. When I want to Xfer money from my bank to my GC account, I use a third-party (I think Remitly, Wise, and World Remit will all work) app. I have attached both my bank account and GC to one of those accounts, and I use that account to xfer money from my bank to GC. The exchange rate for any of those apps changes daily, and is often about p1 lower than today's actual exchange rate. For example, if today's exchange rate is 58 pesos for $1 USD, I can usually use one of those apps to send money from my bank to GC at p57 to $1 USD. Remitly, Wise, or WR will keep the other p1 (in my case there is no up-front fee).
We covered GC a lot, about a year ago. Do an Advanced Search.
* Side note. Once your GC account is verified, your GC might stop working anytime you remove your SIM card from the phone you used to verify the account. GC is designed only to work with 1 SIM and your phone TOGETHER. Separating them can stop GC from working. You might have to put the SIM card back into the original phone to make it work again.
WestCoast1
08-10-24, 07:03
Forgot to mention, that telle doctor also said, for regular pills, it's needs to be taken for at least 5-7 days to ensure any unwanted accidents. Word for word 😁.So, 45 minutes. There orta be a warning on that blister pack.
Yes GC. You will need to download the app first, then create an account in the app. After that, you will need to 'verify' your account (a process where you will have to send your selfie and a pic of your valid ID to GC, or alternately they will video call with you and make you show your face and your ID to the cam), connecting your identity to the phone and SIM card*. Once you are verified, you can send / receive cash. My GC is not connected directly to my foreign bank account. When I want to Xfer money from my bank to my GC account, I use a third-party (I think Remitly, Wise, and World Remit will all work) app. I have attached both my bank account and GC to one of those accounts, and I use that account to xfer money from my bank to GC. The exchange rate for any of those apps changes daily, and is often about p1 lower than today's actual exchange rate. For example, if today's exchange rate is 58 pesos for $1 USD, I can usually use one of those apps to send money from my bank to GC at p57 to $1 USD. Remitly, Wise, or WR will keep the other p1 (in my case there is no up-front fee).
We covered GC a lot, about a year ago. Do an Advanced Search.
* Side note. Once your GC account is verified, your GC might stop working anytime you remove your SIM card from the phone you used to verify the account. GC is designed only to work with 1 SIM and your phone TOGETHER. Separating them can stop GC from working. You might have to put the SIM card back into the original phone to make it work again.For what it is worth, it isn't hard to verify your account. The linking gcash to your phone number and a single phone is a relatively new thing. After a 4. 5 month absence, I returned to the Philippines and tried to install it on the original phone (a Samsung A04 that I got a year ago for about 6 k pesos). It will ask you to follow prompts on the camera (move closer, turn left, look up, etc) to compare to the face scan it did when you set up the account. It would not allow me to verify on that phone, even after trying for 30 minutes. I installed on my iPhone 12 (that does not have a Philippines sim. Installment plan and not unlocked yet), and it verified right away. I just had to have the phone with that phone number handy for otp. Wife #2 has been trying to verify her gcash for months off and on using her 2. 5 year old phone, and it won't do it. Her new phone finally let her verify her face, but then asked her to submit her ID again, then rejected that.
Just to clarify, you can have a gcash account without verifying it. However, an unverified account is limited. You can not receive remittances from foreign banks, and it limits who and how much you can send money to.
Wow. Thanks much for a complete step by step GC process. Not as complicated as I thought only fear is I will have a different sim on my next visit. I guess I will have to reactivate it. I will do an advanced search and gather more info. Thanks much WC.
Yes GC. You will need to download the app first, then create an account in the app. After that, you will need to 'verify' your account (a process where you will have to send your selfie and a pic of your valid ID to GC, or alternately they will video call with you and make you show your face and your ID to the cam), connecting your identity to the phone and SIM card*. Once you are verified, you can send / receive cash. My GC is not connected directly to my foreign bank account. When I want to Xfer money from my bank to my GC account, I use a third-party (I think Remitly, Wise, and World Remit will all work) app. I have attached both my bank account and GC to one of those accounts, and I use that account to xfer money from my bank to GC. The exchange rate for any of those apps changes daily, and is often about p1 lower than today's actual exchange rate. For example, if today's exchange rate is 58 pesos for $1 USD, I can usually use one of those apps to send money from my bank to GC at p57 to $1 USD. Remitly, Wise, or WR will keep the other p1 (in my case there is no up-front fee).
We covered GC a lot, about a year ago. Do an Advanced Search.
* Side note. Once your GC account is verified, your GC might stop working anytime you remove your SIM card from the phone you used to verify the account. GC is designed only to work with 1 SIM and your phone TOGETHER. Separating them can stop GC from working. You might have to put the SIM card back into the original phone to make it work again.
KenjiYoshioka
09-21-24, 20:16
I suppose I should have mentioned this in my previous report. My experience with Pinays from the PI, from other countries, American born Pinays is all the same. Do not expect that they will be faithful, ever. Ever. It doesn't matter if she's had your kids. It doesn't matter if she married you. If you turn your back for 5 minutes, for 2. 5 of those she will be filled with another guy's cock. It doesn't matter if she's a nice girl. It doesn't matter if she comes from a rich family. I've never known, dated, or otherwise been with a Pinay who didn't go on dates with or go out with other men when their partner's back (99% of the time NOT ME) was turned. If you go overseas and leave your Pinay girlfriend OR WIFE behind, she's going to be fucking someone else within 24 hours. Sure she can clean pretty well and take good care of your and her kids, but you can't be certain those kids are yours unless you ask 23 and Me (a. K. a. Get a paternity test).
This can work in your favor, however. And for most of us it frequently does. If some poor sap overseas is sending a girl you meet some money, then she's free to have fun with you. Most of the single mom professionals you meet already have a husband or BF back in the provinces somewhere, if not multiple. Long story short, Pinays can't keep their legs closed for shit. Thus,
THE GOOD: Pinay girls are easy. If you want to get laid, go to the Philippines. The socioeconomic disparity lets you be a comparative big shot, and that's attractive in any culture. Money talks. Plus there's something to be said for the idolization of fair skin, so lots of girls want some white or east asian dick just so their kids can be good looking. Factor in the poor sex education in the Philippines, the strong religious overtones barring the use of many birth control methods, and the fact that Pinay girls LOVE TO FUCK and you've got a recipe for rampant unprotected sex with tight pussied Asian girls that have probably the hottest tits and possibly the nicest asses in Asia (possibly owing to all the Spanish blood). They don't call them LBFM (Little Brown Fuck Monsters) for nothing.
THE BAD: This means you have to be careful about wanting anything more than a casual fling with a Pinay. If you give your heart to a Pinay, you have to expect that it will get broken. You can't make a working girl into a housewife.
THE UGLY: STD's and HIV are high in the Philippines compared to the western world. According to the UN, something like 40% of sex workers in the PI have Chlamydia. (https://data.unaids.org/publications/fact-sheets01/philippines_en.pdf - slightly old data 2004, but it's likely worse now if anything) It's not unheard of for someone to find out that "their kids" aren't theirs at all. Don't be the dope who finds out the kids they've been raising aren't yours when they turn 18 and go off to college.
Summary: Keep the Pinays in the PI. If you marry one of them or try to get serious with one of them, know that you're playing with fire.
I suppose I should have mentioned this in my previous report. My experience with Pinays from the PI, from other countries, American born Pinays is all the same. Do not expect that they will be faithful, ever. Ever. It doesn't matter if she's had your kids. It doesn't matter if she married you. If you turn your back for 5 minutes, for 2. 5 of those she will be filled with another guy's cock. It doesn't matter if she's a nice girl. It doesn't matter if she comes from a rich family. I've never known, dated, or otherwise been with a Pinay who didn't go on dates with or go out with other men when their partner's back (99% of the time NOT ME) was turned. If you go overseas and leave your Pinay girlfriend OR WIFE behind, she's going to be fucking someone else within 24 hours. Sure she can clean pretty well and take good care of your and her kids, but you can't be certain those kids are yours unless you ask 23 and Me (a. K. a. Get a paternity test).
This can work in your favor, however. And for most of us it frequently does. If some poor sap overseas is sending a girl you meet some money, then she's free to have fun with you. Most of the single mom professionals you meet already have a husband or BF back in the provinces somewhere, if not multiple. Long story short, Pinays can't keep their legs closed for shit. Thus,
THE GOOD: Pinay girls are easy. If you want to get laid, go to the Philippines. The socioeconomic disparity lets you be a comparative big shot, and that's attractive in any culture. Money talks. Plus there's something to be said for the idolization of fair skin, so lots of girls want some white or east asian dick just so their kids can be good looking. Factor in the poor sex education in the Philippines, the strong religious overtones barring the use of many birth control methods, and the fact that Pinay girls LOVE TO FUCK and you've got a recipe for rampant unprotected sex with tight pussied Asian girls that have probably the hottest tits and possibly the nicest asses in Asia (possibly owing to all the Spanish blood). They don't call them LBFM (Little Brown Fuck Monsters) for nothing.
THE BAD: This means you have to be careful about wanting anything more than a casual fling with a Pinay. If you give your heart to a Pinay, you have to expect that it will get broken. You can't make a working girl into a housewife.
THE UGLY: STD's and HIV are high in the Philippines compared to the western world. According to the UN, something like 40% of sex workers in the PI have Chlamydia. (https://data.unaids.org/publications/fact-sheets01/philippines_en.pdf - slightly old data 2004, but it's likely worse now if anything) It's not unheard of for someone to find out that "their kids" aren't theirs at all. Don't be the dope who finds out the kids they've been raising aren't yours when they turn 18 and go off to college.
Summary: Keep the Pinays in the PI. If you marry one of them or try to get serious with one of them, know that you're playing with fire.It really depends, like anywhere else, on the individual. This is a sex forum. We exchange information on our experiences with women, specifically on the best places to get sex. If you find a girl who is doing sex work, that shows already that her moral bar is set low. And, face it, ours is, too, or we wouldn't be here posting. But that's a different story. If you find a sex worker and try to domesticate her, or a girl who is always getting money from guys overseas, then why expect to get anything different? It doesn't make any sense.
You can leave the city and go to the province, and you can find women there. But just read the "Other Places" forum to see that it isn't a turkey shoot to find a girl. Most pinay in the province will have sex if they are in a relationship, but they aren't just fucking anyone. If I go somewhere not with my wife for a day, I may have women glancing at me, but rarely talking to me unless they see a picture of our kids on my phone or something like that. Then again, there's the 20 year old on the jeep all nuzzled up close to me and rubbing her tits on my arm and her hand on my leg with my wife sitting next to me. Sometimes there's no rhyme or reason. But, in general, I find most pinay to be conservative and not open to fucking just anyone.
KenjiYoshioka
09-23-24, 07:23
But, in general, I find most pinay to be conservative and not open to fucking just anyone.Pfft, yeah in public.
I suppose I should have mentioned this in my previous report. My experience with Pinays from the PI, from other countries, American born Pinays is all the same. Do not expect that they will be faithful, ever. Ever. It doesn't matter if she's had your kids. It doesn't matter if she married you. If you turn your back for 5 minutes, for 2. 5 of those she will be filled with another guy's cock. It doesn't matter if she's a nice girl. It doesn't matter if she comes from a rich family. I've never known, dated, or otherwise been with a Pinay who didn't go on dates with or go out with other men when their partner's back (99% of the time NOT ME) was turned. If you go overseas and leave your Pinay girlfriend OR WIFE behind, she's going to be fucking someone else within 24 hours. Sure she can clean pretty well and take good care of your and her kids, but you can't be certain those kids are yours unless you ask 23 and Me (a. K. a. Get a paternity test).
This can work in your favor, however. And for most of us it frequently does. If some poor sap overseas is sending a girl you meet some money, then she's free to have fun with you. Most of the single mom professionals you meet already have a husband or BF back in the provinces somewhere, if not multiple. Long story short, Pinays can't keep their legs closed for shit. Thus,
THE GOOD: Pinay girls are easy. If you want to get laid, go to the Philippines. The socioeconomic disparity lets you be a comparative big shot, and that's attractive in any culture. Money talks. Plus there's something to be said for the idolization of fair skin, so lots of girls want some white or east asian dick just so their kids can be good looking. Factor in the poor sex education in the Philippines, the strong religious overtones barring the use of many birth control methods, and the fact that Pinay girls LOVE TO FUCK and you've got a recipe for rampant unprotected sex with tight pussied Asian girls that have probably the hottest tits and possibly the nicest asses in Asia (possibly owing to all the Spanish blood). They don't call them LBFM (Little Brown Fuck Monsters) for nothing.
THE BAD: This means you have to be careful about wanting anything more than a casual fling with a Pinay. If you give your heart to a Pinay, you have to expect that it will get broken. You can't make a working girl into a housewife.
THE UGLY: STD's and HIV are high in the Philippines compared to the western world. According to the UN, something like 40% of sex workers in the PI have Chlamydia. (https://data.unaids.org/publications/fact-sheets01/philippines_en.pdf - slightly old data 2004, but it's likely worse now if anything) It's not unheard of for someone to find out that "their kids" aren't theirs at all. Don't be the dope who finds out the kids they've been raising aren't yours when they turn 18 and go off to college.
Summary: Keep the Pinays in the PI. If you marry one of them or try to get serious with one of them, know that you're playing with fire.Correct on all counts, KY (jelly). If their lips move they are lying. The really good looking ones on Cupid are all liars and scammers. Do not ever send a Pinay money.
Correct on all counts, KY (jelly). If their lips move they are lying. The really good looking ones on Cupid are all liars and scammers. Do not ever send a Pinay money.I have to agree DC.
A lot of first timers get caught in the net and I've heard the bitching and complaining from them after they've done their balls over a girl on a two week dash.
About 20 years ago, my mother's boss at the time was doing business in The Phils and when he heard I was going over for my first visit, he said, "Whatever you do, don't marry one and don't trust them. ".
(he did marry a Filipina and got drained of cash).
Those new to The Phils have to realize the whole girl scene is an economy. Once you move on, there will be someone to replace you and put cash in their pockets to spend as they please.
I tell all my contacts in The Phils that I'll only 'compensate' them when I'm in The Phils.
I had a lovely girl just this week who tried to hit me up for her electricity bill, which was pretty huge according to the pics she sent through of her bill.
I simply said I'll cover part of it when I'm back in November _ 500 p a shot is the deal, so I'm sure I'll help her reduce her debt.
Sometimes it's advantageous to assist the poor _ Phil.
I have to agree DC.
A lot of first timers get caught in the net and I've heard the bitching and complaining from them after they've done their balls over a girl on a two week dash.
About 20 years ago, my mother's boss at the time was doing business in The Phils and when he heard I was going over for my first visit, he said, "Whatever you do, don't marry one and don't trust them. ".
(he did marry a Filipina and got drained of cash).
Those new to The Phils have to realize the whole girl scene is an economy. Once you move on, there will be someone to replace you and put cash in their pockets to spend as they please.
I tell all my contacts in The Phils that I'll only 'compensate' them when I'm in The Phils.
I had a lovely girl just this week who tried to hit me up for her electricity bill, which was pretty huge according to the pics she sent through of her bill..I hardly ever believe the innocent victim story who got taken to the cleaners. Impossible to lose your accumulated wealth prior to marriage in the USA. Unless you were such an idiot who commingled assets during your marriage. Even commingled assets can be divided back up during a divorce. Stupid gets what they get.
I hardly ever believe the innocent victim story who got taken to the cleaners. Impossible to lose your accumulated wealth prior to marriage in the USA. Unless you were such an idiot who commingled assets during your marriage. Even commingled assets can be divided back up during a divorce. Stupid gets what they get.I agree. Stories of being scammed always break down into one of two options: he's fallen in love with a bar girl whose literal job is the extract as much cash from customers as possible or; send ing bucket loads of cash to a girl he barely knows and possibly hasn't even met. With the second you could group guys who forget that we need to be worth more alive and in country than dead and out of it. Why give up an ongoing monthly income of $5 k to sell your house stateside and buy $100,000's of immovable sunk costs that will be in someone else's name. It's not hard to understand what is the likely outcome after the last transfer is made. Bye bye.
Don't get me started on the whole sponsorship deal. What do guys think they are getting by paying the retainers? A secured place in the queue? Her fidelity while he is away? The girl's honour and respect? The reality is that none of these occur. I've said many times that I have never had a girl reject to see me because I didn't send money while I'm away.
Of course, we can use these to our own advantage. I've lost count of the number of times I've been a side dick to a girl who is getting substantial sponsorship to allegedly keep her honest. Maybe a dick move on my part but the guys are so hopeless that even when told the situation, they don't believe it, much less act upon it. I think many guys here have been told to be quiet mid coitus so that she can receive a call from her true love.
Despite the above, I still believe that the simps and scammed are the vocal minority. Most guys think with their big head, find the right girl, and live happily ever after, often for decades. You never hear about those couples.
Enjoy. G.
What's everyone's experience of girls being petrified of being busted by their friends, workmates, family etc. One of the super shy girls I met in CDO is asking to be taken out of town away from prying eyes. Apparently there are a coupe of resorts nearby or she has even mentioned meeting me here in Butuan or Surigao. She's strongly hinted that out of town she will loose all her shyness.
I haven't fucked her so I don't know what I'm getting yet. As I said, she was incredibly shy in public in metro CDO and I didn't even get her to come to the room.
Unfortunately, I don't have a good history with travel partners so am reluctant to just be someone's meal ticket.
Thoughts??
G.
Gofering: It's been good hanging out with feiends.
J Cdo Met: Want me to go there and go out with you?
Gofering: Now??
J Cdo Met: What do you think.
Gofering: I'll be in CDO next week.
J Cdo Met: It's good in here but I might get shy here maybe thinking we'll get caught by someone co-interns or medtech staffs knows me here because my workplace is toxic you know hahahaha.
Gofering: Hahah. I understand. Maybe I come to CDO and we go somewhere for a weekend.
J Cdo Met: Rumors spread easily there that's why we all do is to keep shut our mouth.
Gofering: Sure.
Gofering: Or we just stay inside and don't go out.
J Cdo Met: I want to go outside😅.
Gofering: Ok. Let's see what I get there.
WestCoast1
10-04-24, 04:52
What's everyone's experience of girls being petrified of being busted by their friends, workmates, family etc. Its a real fear. A Manila girl said to me: "OMG if my family found I'm seeing a foreigner they will kick me to the street!" Given that your girl is in the province, she's even more shy.
One of the super shy girls I met in CDO is asking to be taken out of town away from prying eyes. Apparently there are a coupe of resorts nearby or she has even mentioned meeting me here in Butuan or Surigao. She's strongly hinted that out of town she will loose all her shyness.
I haven't fucked her so I don't know what I'm getting yet. As I said, she was incredibly shy in public in metro CDO and I didn't even get her to come to the room.
Unfortunately, I don't have a good history with travel partners so am reluctant to just be someone's meal ticket.
Thoughts??This is difficult. If you send her fare to meet you in Butuan, maybe she doesn't go there. Or she does, and then doesn't feel comfortable getting naked. Or alternately it works great, a shy first f*ck and thereafter she's a horny little minx. Have experienced both sides of the coin.
Alternately, once in CDO, meet her for a coffee far from her home (or the location of her choosing). By the end of that time, she should know if she wants to spend time alone in a room with you. You could take her out of town directly from there. There are a number of resorts along the ocean highway west / south of CDO, towards Iligan. Anywhere an hour out of town should be OK with her. Similarly going east / north out of CDO towards Balingoan there are hotels and resorts an hour away. A 1-nighter to see how it goes, that can be extended?
CDO also has about a dozen or so ST no-tell motels. If your girl has mentioned specific resorts, those are the ones you know already that she is willing to escape to.
SunnyBlacks12
10-04-24, 06:06
I have to agree DC.
A lot of first timers get caught in the net and I've heard the bitching and complaining from them after they've done their balls over a girl on a two week dash.
About 20 years ago, my mother's boss at the time was doing business in The Phils and when he heard I was going over for my first visit, he said, "Whatever you do, don't marry one and don't trust them. ".
(he did marry a Filipina and got drained of cash).
Those new to The Phils have to realize the whole girl scene is an economy. Once you move on, there will be someone to replace you and put cash in their pockets to spend as they please.
I tell all my contacts in The Phils that I'll only 'compensate' them when I'm in The Phils.
I had a lovely girl just this week who tried to hit me up for her electricity bill, which was pretty huge according to the pics she sent through of her bill.
I simply said I'll cover part of it when I'm back in November _ 500 p a shot is the deal, so I'm sure I'll help her reduce her debt.
Sometimes it's advantageous to assist the poor _ Phil.Really? This sounds crazy to me. Last month I had a girl from Manila send me a screenshot of a Meralco utility bill that showed her two months behind and electricity disconnected. Are they passing around the same bill?
I agree. Stories of being scammed always break down into one of two options: he's fallen in love with a bar girl whose literal job is the extract as much cash from customers as possible or; send ing bucket loads of cash to a girl he barely knows and possibly hasn't even met. With the second you could group guys who forget that we need to be worth more alive and in country than dead and out of it. Why give up an ongoing monthly income of $5 k to sell your house stateside and buy $100,000's of immovable sunk costs that will be in someone else's name. It's not hard to understand what is the likely outcome after the last transfer is made. Bye bye.
Don't get me started on the whole sponsorship deal. What do guys think they are getting by paying the retainers? A secured place in the queue? Her fidelity while he is away? The girl's honour and respect? The reality is that none of these occur. I've said many times that I have never had a girl reject to see me because I didn't send money while I'm away.
Of course, we can use these to our own advantage. I've lost count of the number of times I've been a side dick to a girl who is getting substantial sponsorship to allegedly keep her honest. Maybe a dick move on my part but the guys are so hopeless that even when told the situation, they don't believe it, much less act upon it. I think many guys here have been told to be quiet mid coitus so that she can receive a call from her true love.
Despite the above, I still believe that the simps and scammed are the vocal minority. Most guys think with their big head, find the right girl, and live happily ever after, often for decades. You never hear about those couples.
Enjoy. G.I've known several men who have found quality Filipinas. Most of the Filipinas were not young, and none of them were bar girls. If you're looking for a forever Filipina, use your big head and common sense. Don't try to get a girl that has been with a thousand guys to be content with just you, and don't get a girl that is after your money. It shouldn't have to be said, but it does.
Really? This sounds crazy to me. Last month I had a girl from Manila send me a screenshot of a Meralco utility bill that showed her two months behind and electricity disconnected. Are they passing around the same bill?Hi SB, from experience, the different and varied requests from numerous girls run in waves.
It maybe the sick kid excuse for a while, then the utility bill excuse and more recently, the typhoon charity fundraiser.
I'm reluctant to call it a scam on their part. More an opportunity to milk some extra money out of you after you've entered their property.
Some guys might pay up. Or maybe not. It's worth a try I suppose.
_ Phil.
WestCoast1
10-04-24, 17:34
Really? This sounds crazy to me. Last month I had a girl from Manila send me a screenshot of a Meralco utility bill that showed her two months behind and electricity disconnected. Are they passing around the same bill?I think it was earlier this year when we ran thru quite a list of 'emergencies' that filipina use to get $ from starstruck foreigners. Utility bill cutoff is common, and is not always a scam (quite possible that's the actual need). However, its quite convincing. Pinoy need electricity to run oscillating fans at night to stop mosquitoes from biting. The list of emergencies is, like my schwanztooga, long and distinguished in Phils. Others include: Sick grandma / gramps. Sick mother / pops. Sick bro / sis. Sick children. Sick cousin. Sick auntie. Sick dog (parvo). Sick cat. Sick goat. Brother's sick fighting rooster. She's been flea-bitten from sleeping with her dog. Entire family has fleas. She has lice. Entire family has lice. Medical bills. Her child got bit by a dog and needs series of rabies shots. Cousin run over by a jeepney. Roof needs fixing. Tuition fees. Needs birthday cake as her bday is tomorrow; it never occurs to them to ask you for this, nor ask their family for this, a few days or a week in advance, its always a surprise, and she will likely need it again 3, 7, and 10 months from now. Also needs birthday cake for her nephew's 4th Bday tomorrow. Needs money for food, especially a fully cooked pig, for her niece's 2nd bday party tomorrow. Speaking of pigs: Needs pig feed as she's raising a pig to sell. Pig is sick. Father's tryke broke down. Brother's motorcycle broken. Phone in pawn shop and she wants it back. Hospital bill. No food in the house. Wants to start a sari store (business). Its quite a cottage industry, where she can be rotating this type of list of emergencies, say one per week, for any one guy overseas. If she has 5-6 such dating site paramours who've never been here, she can be raking it in with online chat.
She fell off the curb and twisted her ankle. It swells up to the size of a softball. A sprain. She should get an xray and a palpitation checkup. Instead she goes to the local shaman for rubbing on the oil and saying the prayers. She has no money to pay the shaman, who becomes angry. She limps home and steals one of her father's roosters and gives it to the shaman. The father is angry at the loss. She needs you to send her p1500 to compensate her father for the rooster. You send it. A few days later the sprain is so painful that she can't walk. She needs you to send money for a medical checkup, as the doctor wants an xray. The same checkup you suggested the day before she went to the shaman. Stupid you.
Forgot: Sick Carabao. Do you think the carabao are tired of being used as scam-bait? Moooooooo!
KenjiYoshioka
10-04-24, 19:50
I think it was earlier this year when we ran thru quite a list of 'emergencies' that filipina use to get $ from starstruck foreigners. Utility bill cutoff is common, and is not always a scam (quite possible that's the actual need). However, its quite convincing. Pinoy need electricity to run oscillating fans at night to stop mosquitoes from biting. The list of emergencies is, like my schwanztooga, long and distinguished in Phils. Others include: Sick grandma / gramps. Sick mother / pops. Sick bro / sis. Sick children. Sick cousin. Sick auntie. Sick dog (parvo). Sick cat. Sick goat. Brother's sick fighting rooster. She's been flea-bitten from sleeping with her dog. Entire family has fleas. She has lice. Entire family has lice. Medical bills. Her child got bit by a dog and needs series of rabies shots. Cousin run over by a jeepney. Roof needs fixing. Tuition fees. Needs birthday cake as her bday is tomorrow; it never occurs to them to ask you for this, nor ask their family for this, a few days or a week in advance, its always a surprise, and she will likely need it again 3, 7, and 10 months from now. Also needs birthday cake for her nephew's 4th Bday tomorrow. Needs money for food, especially a fully cooked pig, for her niece's 2nd bday party tomorrow. Speaking of pigs: Needs pig feed as she's raising a pig to sell. Pig is sick. Father's tryke broke down. Brother's motorcycle broken. Phone in pawn shop and she wants it back. Hospital bill. No food in the house. Wants to start a sari store (business). Its quite a cottage industry, where she can be rotating this type of list of emergencies, say one per week, for any one guy overseas. If she has 5-6 such dating site paramours who've never been here, she can be raking it in with online chat.
She fell off the curb and twisted her ankle. It swells up to the size of a softball. A sprain. She should get an xray and a palpitation checkup. Instead she goes to the local shaman for rubbing on the oil and saying the prayers. She has no money to pay the shaman, who becomes angry. She limps home and steals one of her father's roosters and gives it to the shaman. The father is angry at the loss. She needs you to send her p1500 to compensate her father for the rooster. You send it. A few days later the sprain is so painful that she can't walk. She needs you to send money for a medical checkup, as the doctor wants an xray. The same checkup you suggested the day before she went to the shaman. Stupid you.
Forgot: Sick Carabao. Do you think the carabao are tired of being used as scam-bait? Moooooooo!. . They'd probably be more successful if they just charged a fee every time they made you bust a nut. Is there a word for that?
I think it was earlier this year when we ran thru quite a list of 'emergencies' that filipina use to get $ from starstruck foreigners. Utility bill cutoff is common, and is not always a scam (quite possible that's the actual need). However, its quite convincing. Pinoy need electricity to run oscillating fans at night to stop mosquitoes from biting. The list of emergencies is, like my schwanztooga, long and distinguished in Phils. Others include:
Forgot: Sick Carabao. Do you think the carabao are tired of being used as scam-bait? Moooooooo!This list is f'ing exhaustive. How did you remember everything or did you generate them on the fly.
Given the exhaustive ways in which Filipians cheat farangs, does any other country girls have similar patterns?
Given the exhaustive ways in which Filipians cheat farangs, does any other country girls have similar patterns?It's only the Philippines.
No, guys in other countries have never been played, deceived or ripped off by women. Pussy has never been used to ensnare men anywhere.
Never happened.
G.
WestCoast1
10-05-24, 05:34
This list is f'ing exhaustive. How did you remember everything or did you generate them on the fly.Experience. I have forgotten more than I remember. Scarry, right?
SunnyBlacks12
10-05-24, 05:46
Hi SB, from experience, the different and varied requests from numerous girls run in waves.
It maybe the sick kid excuse for a while, then the utility bill excuse and more recently, the typhoon charity fundraiser.
I'm reluctant to call it a scam on their part. More an opportunity to milk some extra money out of you after you've entered their property.
Some guys might pay up. Or maybe not. It's worth a try I suppose.
_ Phil.Thanks for the reply Phil. I've done a lot of traveling this past year and I always let women know that I will deal with them when I get there. This one surprised me as I had already told her no before and she knows that I'm going to be there next month anyway so she said she would just wait until I arrived.
SunnyBlacks12
10-05-24, 06:09
I think it was earlier this year when we ran thru quite a list of 'emergencies' that filipina use to get $ from starstruck foreigners. Utility bill cutoff is common, and is not always a scam (quite possible that's the actual need). However, its quite convincing. Pinoy need electricity to run oscillating fans at night to stop mosquitoes from biting. The list of emergencies is, like my schwanztooga, long and distinguished in Phils. Others include: Sick grandma / gramps. Sick mother / pops. Sick bro / sis. Sick children. Sick cousin. Sick auntie. Sick dog (parvo). Sick cat. Sick goat. Brother's sick fighting rooster. She's been flea-bitten from sleeping with her dog. Entire family has fleas. She has lice. Entire family has lice. Medical bills. Her child got bit by a dog and needs series of rabies shots. Cousin run over by a jeepney. Roof needs fixing. Tuition fees. Needs birthday cake as her bday is tomorrow; it never occurs to them to ask you for this, nor ask their family for this, a few days or a week in advance, its always a surprise, and she will likely need it again 3, 7, and 10 months from now. Also needs birthday cake for her nephew's 4th Bday tomorrow. Needs money for food, especially a fully cooked pig, for her niece's 2nd bday party tomorrow. Speaking of pigs: Needs pig feed as she's raising a pig to sell. Pig is sick. Father's tryke broke down. Brother's motorcycle broken. Phone in pawn shop and she wants it back. Hospital bill. No food in the house. Wants to start a sari store (business). Its quite a cottage industry, where she can be rotating this type of list of emergencies, say one per week, for any one guy overseas. If she has 5-6 such dating site paramours who've never been here, she can be raking it in with online chat.
She fell off the curb and twisted her ankle. It swells up to the size of a softball. A sprain. She should get an xray and a palpitation checkup. Instead she goes to the local shaman for rubbing on the oil and saying the prayers. She has no money to pay the shaman, who becomes angry. She limps home and steals one of her father's roosters and gives it to the shaman. The father is angry at the loss. She needs you to send her p1500 to compensate her father for the rooster. You send it. A few days later the sprain is so painful that she can't walk. She needs you to send money for a medical checkup, as the doctor wants an xray. The same checkup you suggested the day before she went to the shaman. Stupid you.
Forgot: Sick Carabao. Do you think the carabao are tired of being used as scam-bait? Moooooooo!That's a lot. Last year was my first trip to the Philippines. I had 2 chicks from Seeking asking for money to travel to meet me in Makati. One of which I would help out with tuition on arrival but we never met up. I didn't want to risk sending money to someone I never met. A pinay asking for a birthday gift. And the girl who checked me into my Airbnb who texted me asking for an "allowance" a few hours after we fucked. I told her no because I had already taken her to the casino to eat at a fancy restaurant, she made me spend money on another hotel for the night because she insisted that she would get into trouble if she came up to see me at my apartment and her boss found out, and she was terrible in bed. However, I must admit that I do have some sympathy for pinays. I wa in Sao Paulo last year and those women come off as very entitled. Instead of asking for money to turn on the lights those women were asking for money to by YSL and some kind of ass injection (not BBLs, she showed me an infographic of the procedure).
Thanks for the reply Phil. I've done a lot of traveling this past year and I always let women know that I will deal with them when I get there. This one surprised me as I had already told her no before and she knows that I'm going to be there next month anyway so she said she would just wait until I arrived.That's the way to go SB. I'm always upfront with them and tell them I'll reward them adequately only when they're with me in person.
Westie's list of their requests is spot-on.
I also let them know that if I sent cash to every Filipina that I know, there'd be nothing left for them.
On the few occasions I've had a lame bedtime experience and they keep hounding you for cash, I just flick them off straight away and move on.
The excellent ones will get a free trip to Boracay or similar.
But that's only if I've built up a friendship over time and numerous visits to the honey pot.
_ Phil.
Old And Ugly
10-05-24, 17:38
Experience. I have forgotten more than I remember. Scarry, right?I figured out that they are excellent psychologists, first they profile you to see in which category you belong, where you are softer and more vulnerable: sick kid, herself in need of medical attention, mom, tuition, bills, animals, no food, etc. Then they attack. My resolve is not to answer at all.
On the other hand some of it may be the truth: I live with my GF for about a year now, of course I pay for everything (but for me alone will cost about the same), she doesn't need no money from me, because she has few businesses going on, one of them is a pig farm where she has employees. By living together I know everything that's going on in her live, and sometimes the pigs start dying, and she spends a fortune on veterinarians and medication, price of feeds fluctuates, usually upwards, her mom had a medical emergency, and she had to pay close to 100 k total, two months ago the taifun flooded her parents house etc, so some emergencies are real, and I have no idea at all how the regular people with no resources are dealing with them. But one thing is clear this happened before our arrival and will continue to happen and get solved, with or without us getting involved.
I figured out that they are excellent psychologists, first they profile you to see in which category you belong, where you are softer and more vulnerable: sick kid, herself in need of medical attention, mom, tuition, bills, animals, no food, etc. Then they attack. My resolve is not to answer at all.
On the other hand some of it may be the truth.Have to agree with you O.
Sure, they have to endure less than ideal living situations, and you do feel sorrow for different circumstances when it comes to typhoons, and the rest.
Yes, best not answer sometimes. I had a message from a contact today who hassled me saying "Why you not speak to me no more!
I could have replied saying, "Because you aways ask me for money and you were probably one of the worst Filipinas I've been with".
But it's best to just let go and move on by not replying.
I've always made it very clear that I'm not going to assist child that's not mine and it's the father's responsibility to assist (knowing quite well he's most probably still on the scene and sending the girl 'out to work'.
Filipinas are crafty little things, but you have to stand your ground.
A lot of newcomers may do their balls over a girl, which is understandable, but it's always 'buyer beware' when it comes to The Phils.
Just my experience _ Phil.
A way I have seen suggested to find high quality non pro,"good" girls is to go to church. I recently read a FB thread that suggested just that and the guy reported good success.
I am not sure how good an idea that is. I recently went to the christening of a friends baby. It was held at a local cathedral just after Mass on a Sunday AM. The cathedral was full, I roughly estimated that there was about 1,000 people attending Mass. I was not at the Mass, but was just outside as the mass ended and the congregation exited.
Yes these were all types, all ages just a cross section of the general population, much like you would see on any street or in any mall.
BUT I did not see one girl of the age range we are interested in who would rate more than a 5. Not a one that anyone here would give a second look at. Compare this to a mall when 10 or 20 or more of a random 1,000 people passing by are girls that we would be interested in.
I guess the ugly ones go to church to pray to get laid, the good looking ones are out getting laid.
WestCoast1
12-04-24, 05:00
I guess the ugly ones go to church to pray to get laid, the good looking ones are out getting laid.Good girls go to heaven. Bad girls go everywhere.
Planning a trip to the the philippines have a few questions: If birth control at least historically was basically never used, and women in their early 20's have a 20-30% chance of getting pregnant each cycle. Wouldn't these girls all tend to end up pregnant after around 4-5 months? Maybe that is just what always happened I dunno but I found that strange. Is it all just a cycle of pregnancies til they get kinda too old for the job at I dunno mid-late 20's?
Anyone have a rough estimate of what these girls are making per month? 2000-3000 a day I would assume? 40 k-60 k would put them roughly in middle. Upper middle class BTW. https://www.pids.gov.ph/details/news/in-the-news/who-are-the-middle-class-in-the-philippines.
Not a bad haul but I have no idea if they can hammer out a bunch of dudes in a day and / or are able to do this every day or not LOL.
Planning a trip to the the philippines have a few questions: If birth control at least historically was basically never used, and women in their early 20's have a 20-30% chance of getting pregnant each cycle. Wouldn't these girls all tend to end up pregnant after around 4-5 months? Maybe that is just what always happened I dunno but I found that strange. Is it all just a cycle of pregnancies til they get kinda too old for the job at I dunno mid-late 20's?
Anyone have a rough estimate of what these girls are making per month? 2000-3000 a day I would assume? 40 k-60 k would put them roughly in middle. Upper middle class BTW. https://www.pids.gov.ph/details/news/in-the-news/who-are-the-middle-class-in-the-philippines.
Not a bad haul but I have no idea if they can hammer out a bunch of dudes in a day and / or are able to do this every day or not LOL.After several doses of various STDs and a couple of coathanger abortions, the odds change considerably. I know of several ex working girls who met Mr Gullible and found it near impossible to start a family. For obvious reasons they never went to a doc to find the true cause of her infertility.
Earnings are 'how long is a piece of string'. Many struggle to find a single barfine by the end of the month. Others are so busy that they need to triage customers. Add sponsors, online simps etc. Income? You're wildest guess plus a lot.
It's all fun and games on the surface but not so attractive if you look a little deeper.
Enjoy. G.
Old And Ugly
12-30-24, 03:38
Planning a trip to the the philippines have a few questions: If birth control at least historically was basically never used, and women in their early 20's have a 20-30% chance of getting pregnant each cycle. Wouldn't these girls all tend to end up pregnant after around 4-5 months? Maybe that is just what always happened I dunno but I found that strange. Is it all just a cycle of pregnancies til they get kinda too old for the job at I dunno mid-late 20's?
Anyone have a rough estimate of what these girls are making per month? 2000-3000 a day I would assume? 40 k-60 k would put them roughly in middle. Upper middle class BTW. https://www.pids.gov.ph/details/news/in-the-news/who-are-the-middle-class-in-the-philippines.
Not a bad haul but I have no idea if they can hammer out a bunch of dudes in a day and / or are able to do this every day or not LOL.G is right, don't look too deep into it, is not helping you or them. Take it as it is, and imagine whatever you want.
But if you're asking about the income, for long term hiring considerations, I can tell you that I used to pay them 2 k / day plus expenses, up to 2 weeks, or 20 k / month plus expenses for over 2 weeks periods.
For the occasional BF I still pay whatever it is, because it's a one time purchase of something that I really want in that moment, and I take it as an personal treat, that I deserve from time to time.
So I spoke to the usual couple in one of the cheap eateries I hang out in. He told me he was suspended for five days from work for seeing his OFW BF off at Manila Airport. I said I had only seen him, every day with his lady friend. He swore he was gay and theirs was only a platonic affair. After saying I had no interest in either of them, we all headed to the door. He turned and asked me if I knew any guys who would like to be fked by hom. Though I could have named quite a few from this board, I desisted. The point of the post is to say this gay guy got suspended for five days for missing his BF good bye at Manila airport and he is already looking for more sausage. And he would like me to buy into his BS by hooking up with his female shadow.
Locamotive
01-25-25, 00:13
Planning a trip to the the philippines have a few questions: If birth control at least historically was basically never used, and women in their early 20's have a 20-30% chance of getting pregnant each cycle. Wouldn't these girls all tend to end up pregnant after around 4-5 months? Maybe that is just what always happened I dunno but I found that strange. Is it all just a cycle of pregnancies til they get kinda too old for the job at I dunno mid-late 20's?
Anyone have a rough estimate of what these girls are making per month? 2000-3000 a day I would assume? 40 k-60 k would put them roughly in middle. Upper middle class BTW. https://www.pids.gov.ph/details/news/in-the-news/who-are-the-middle-class-in-the-philippines.
Not a bad haul but I have no idea if they can hammer out a bunch of dudes in a day and / or are able to do this every day or not LOL.A few years ago I agree most of this was true. Lately last few years or so girls are cracking down on the condom thing. Last two trips barfined 6 new girls only one after much convincing in the room and some alcohol would agree. In the old days yeah condom free was assured, not anymore. Maybe I've just gotten very unlucky but the better looking ones its a hard no, won't budge. Now I ask before any transaction takes place as it sucks to get to room and find out. You hate to ask in bar as sometimes in room they change their mind but here lately no they will not. Last trip in December bet I ask 15 girls, no sorry sir condom only. How about extra money, nope sorry. Maybe this a good thing for the girls but it sucks for me.
My lady friend was explaining to me all the micro scams she has going in her cash only job. It really seems to be a way of life here. She is honest it honesty is only relative.
WestCoast1
01-25-25, 10:22
Wouldn't these girls all tend to end up pregnant after around 4-5 months? Guessing many gals in the biz are using BC.
Keen Eye Joe 1
02-19-25, 02:40
A few weeks ago in the early evening, I was sitting alone in a table-girl videoke in Cubao, Quezon City. An estimated 50-plus year-old hostess asked if she could sit with me and I agreed. When I'm in the right mood, I'm up to chatting and engaging in a little friendly "perving" with any female as long as she's a good conversationalist and her English is passable.
She was old and flabby but not repulsive looking for her age. She looked okay when her mouth was closed, but her teeth resembled widely-spaced headstones in a cemetery. This woman had no apparent redeeming qualities except the ability to communicate in English. I figured she was acceptable for verbally entertaining me for an hour before I headed to my favorite Cubao-area strip club.
I bought her a couple of P200 "ladies' drink" beers and we had a good time talking and holding hands. Then she asked if I wanted to take her out of the bar for the night. I was not interested in sexing this gal. But in the interest of gathering information, I asked for her price.
As she was a weathered hag of an old gal, I was expecting maybe P2,000 to P3,000 for an all-nighter. Imagine my surprise when she said P15,000, a request that almost caused me to spit a mouthful of beer across the table.
To enable her to "save face", I said I was very tired from the bus ride from Angeles City but would return tomorrow to the bar to meet her again. Definitely not the first lie I've ever told a bar girl.
Fast forward to yesterday.
I was shopping at the Robinson's Department Store in Butuan City, Mindanao. While looking at products at the Daiso Store, a lady initiated conversation and started getting quite friendly. Not only was she asking invasive personal questions but also trying to hold my hand and then asking if I could take her to my home so we could talk more comfortably.
Normally I might be tempted to bite. But this was another old washed-up woman, who I'd estimate was around 60 years old. Admittedly she appeared to have a slender body, but her face was gnarly and her hair was unkempt and streaky gray at the roots. Zero sex appeal. In fact, I'd give her a minus grade.
But, as a sex sociologist, I like gathering data. So as she put her arm around my waist and whispered another plea at us taking the conversation elsewhere, I softly asked "how much do you want for short time? She replied, "how much will you give?
Again, I had zero interest in taking this boner-killing woman. I lied when offered her P1,000. But she inadvertently let me off the hook when she said that was much too low and countered with P10,000!
That ended my cat and mouse game, so I just upped and left the mall.
The reason I bring this up is I'm having a difficult time understanding why these two women with seemingly nothing to offer a foreigner were asking for sky-high stratospheric compensation for an encounter that I'm sure she would derive more carnal pleasure than me.
I'm going to chalk it up to the typical Filipino underclass attitude that all foreigners are insanely rich, have unlimited funds to toss around, and are expected to give it away to anyone for any reason given. Any guy who has to deal with his wife's / girlfriend's family will agree that they have zero concept of basic economics. That's why I now live in this country as a single man, as it's cheaper to rent the cow than it is to buy one.
A few weeks ago in the early evening, I was sitting alone in a table-girl videoke in Cubao, Quezon City. An estimated 50-plus year-old hostess asked if she could sit with me and I agreed. When I'm in the right mood, I'm up to chatting and engaging in a little friendly "perving" with any female as long as she's a good conversationalist and her English is passable.
She was old and flabby but not repulsive looking for her age. She looked okay when her mouth was closed, but her teeth resembled widely-spaced headstones in a cemetery. This woman had no apparent redeeming qualities except the ability to communicate in English. I figured she was acceptable for verbally entertaining me for an hour before I headed to my favorite Cubao-area strip club.
I bought her a couple of P200 "ladies' drink" beers and we had a good time talking and holding hands. Then she asked if I wanted to take her out of the bar for the night. I was not interested in sexing this gal. But in the interest of gathering information, I asked for her price.
As she was a weathered hag of an old gal, I was expecting maybe P2,000 to P3,000 for an all-nighter. Imagine my surprise when she said P15,000, a request that almost caused me to spit a mouthful of beer across the table.
To enable her to "save face", I said I was very tired from the bus ride from Angeles City but would return tomorrow to the bar to meet her again. Definitely not the first lie I've ever told a bar girl.
Fast forward to yesterday.
I was shopping at the Robinson's Department Store in Butuan City, Mindanao. While looking at products at the Daiso Store, a lady initiated conversation and started getting quite friendly. Not only was she asking invasive personal questions but also trying to hold my hand and then asking if I could take her to my home so we could talk more comfortably.
Normally I might be tempted to bite. But this was another old washed-up woman, who I'd estimate was around 60 years old. Admittedly she appeared to have a slender body, but her face was gnarly and her hair was unkempt and streaky gray at the roots. Zero sex appeal. In fact, I'd give her a minus grade.
But, as a sex sociologist, I like gathering data. So as she put her arm around my waist and whispered another plea at us taking the conversation elsewhere, I softly asked "how much do you want for short time? She replied, "how much will you give?
Again, I had zero interest in taking this boner-killing woman. I lied when offered her P1,000. But she inadvertently let me off the hook when she said that was much too low and countered with P10,000!
That ended my cat and mouse game, so I just upped and left the mall.
The reason I bring this up is I'm having a difficult time understanding why these two women with seemingly nothing to offer a foreigner were asking for sky-high stratospheric compensation for an encounter that I'm sure she would derive more carnal pleasure than me.
I'm going to chalk it up to the typical Filipino underclass attitude that all foreigners are insanely rich, have unlimited funds to toss around, and are expected to give it away to anyone for any reason given. Any guy who has to deal with his wife's / girlfriend's family will agree that they have zero concept of basic economics. That's why I now live in this country as a single man, as it's cheaper to rent the cow than it is to buy one.Maybe that is just basic bartering skills. You say 1 k pesos, she counters back at 10 k pesos, then you say 3-5 k pesos and she agrees. If she countered at 3-5 k pesos, your counter would be 2 k. So she has potential to get more when she counters at a higher price. If you don't counter at all, she saves her time for another potential client.
As for a wife / partner's family attitude towards foreigners, both of my ladies have set precedent with their family of not allowing that kind of behavior. They may occasionally ask them, then she will ask me, but it generally comes out of their own money, not directly out of mine. They understand that, even if their siblings are hungry, giving everything away to them just leaves everyone hungry then, including themselves. It's sad, but it's the truth.
They understand that, even if their siblings are hungry, giving everything away to them just leaves everyone hungry then, including themselves. It's sad, but it's the truth.And that, it is, Aml.
.I'm going to chalk it up to the typical Filipino underclass attitude that all foreigners are insanely rich, have unlimited funds to toss around, and are expected to give it away to anyone for any reason given. Any guy who has to deal with his wife's / girlfriend's family will agree that they have zero concept of basic economics. That's why I now live in this country as a single man, as it's cheaper to rent the cow than it is to buy one.Good observation Joe.
They'll try their best to extract every peso they can.
You can't really blame them.
But yes, it comes down to economics.
I tell all my girls that if I was to finance them all, I'd be broke and I'll only tip them when I'm in their company, and it's performance based in my mind.
The great thing about the Phils is, you can play the game, decide who's a 'keeper' and reward them accordingly.
Try that at home and it would cost you a fortune and if finally you get lucky, it would probably be a dud root anyway.
_ Phil.
The great thing about the Phils is, you can play the game, decide who's a 'keeper' and reward them accordingly._ Phil.Prostitutes arte not keepers. They are prostitutes. The figures oif 10000 PHP orv $172 US has been tossed about. Not an unreasonable sum for a hag if you use US prices.
Non P4 P Pinalys are not gold diggers. They regard us as rich as we spalsh cash in ways they cannot. The berst of them stil have a sense of proportion beause they work and can relate money to work. Hookers are black holes.
Prostitutes arte not keepers. They are prostitutes.Hi Jarango,
By the way of 'keeper' I was referring to the ones you'd want to hang on to as a regular contact.
I also have contacts who I've met well away from any mongering or bar scene and mainly through work.
Yes, they're not contriving like those associated with the typical 'scene'.
However, there's always been an expectation to assist financially in one way or another, however large or small that may be.
I've met a lot of guys who are on their first visits to The Phils who expect every Filipina to throw their legs open to relieve some of the poverty.
From experience, I also know how wrong they are.
_ Phil.
Member #1210
03-02-25, 22:01
I have been chatting with a gal age-34 yrs in DIA for few weeks now. In her profile occupation is listed as FREELANCER. What does it mean? I have had good luck in DIA on the past, but never had someone with Freelancer as job title.
Advice appreciated.
I have been chatting with a gal age-34 yrs in DIA for few weeks now. In her profile occupation is listed as FREELANCER. What does it mean? I have had good luck in DIA on the past, but never had someone with Freelancer as job title.
Advice appreciated.It just means she's a hooker who is looking for business and she doesn't want to play games, pretend she's a girlfriend etc. Basically she just wants some one to message her with a direct offer for her time.
Enjoy. G.
Member #1210
03-03-25, 23:47
It just means she's a hooker who is looking for business and she doesn't want to play games, pretend she's a girlfriend etc. Basically she just wants some one to message her with a direct offer for her time.
Enjoy. G.Thank you very much.
Keen Eye Joe 1
03-04-25, 02:35
I have been chatting with a gal age-34 yrs in DIA for few weeks now. In her profile occupation is listed as FREELANCER. What does it mean? I have had good luck in DIA on the past, but never had someone with Freelancer as job title.
Advice appreciated.In the Philippines, the term "Freelancer" is used for home-based contract workers who typically find short to medium-length gigs for projects, then move on to another job / contract once the project is finished. Go to Google and search for "Freelancer Philippines" for examples.
If a woman touts her employment as a freelancer on a dating website, I'd interpret it to mean she has ambition, and her character and aptitude may be a rung or two above the gals most of us here tend to meet.
In the Philippines, the term "Freelancer" is used for home-based contract workers who typically find short to medium-length gigs for projects, then move on to another job / contract once the project is finished. Go to Google and search for "Freelancer Philippines" for examples.
If a woman touts her employment as a freelancer on a dating website, I'd interpret it to mean she has ambition, and her character and aptitude may be a rung or two above the gals most of us here tend to meet.I might stand corrected. The girls photos and questions will show 1210 which definition is accurate. Though I would agree that if they have been chatting for weeks, then it's more likely you who is correct and she may not be a direct to business type of girl.
Cheers. G.
WestCoast1
03-04-25, 06:56
I might stand corrected. The girls photos and questions will show 1210 which definition is accurate. Though I would agree that if they have been chatting for weeks, then it's more likely you who is correct and she may not be a direct to business type of girl.
Cheers. G.What is 1210?
What is 1210?The original poster. Member#1210.
So, last year in June I asked in the Thailand, Pattaya forum and everyone recommended to go to the Philippines instead for a cute travel GF. I'm 23 years old.
I still went to Pattaya for a couple of weeks just to see for myself but didn't like the scene there at all. The girls were hardcore professionals, I hardly found girls I that I would have liked.
My target age range is 18-20 without tattoos, dark skin and below 50 kg. Many of my meetings were very transactional because some of them had multiple customers per day and they were only doing ST and LT sessions with condom. Very little to no GFS and dating scene is non-existent.
After that I spent 3 months (November, December, January) in Mindanao.
I chose Mindanao because it's not run over by tourists and I can find more traditional girls there. I'm not looking for P4 P exclusively so I'm keeping all my options open.
I went to many places including Digos, Davao, Tagum, General Santos, Butuan, Cagayan de Oro, Malaybalay and Valencia.
I did the deed with only 2 girls in 3 months, and I paid only 1 girl.
I searched mostly online because I couldn't really approach them on the street. They felt uncomfortable even in normal situations because some of them never talked with a foreigner before, and in many cases, they call you "sir".
I had chats with 86 girls on Whatsapp after I matched with them on dating profiles (where I got hundreds of likes).
The attention you're getting here as a white guy is insane, outside on the street the girls are looking from the other side of the street, smiling, giggling and waving at you. But once you actually come over and talk to them they.
Become petrified.
Unfortunately, that attention turns out to be the main problem in Mindanao. You want to get to know young and attractive women (there are plenty), but they are too shy and conservative. The total opposite of Pattaya girls.
I had trouble setting up meetings because they had all kinds of excuses why they can't go on a date (I have school, too far, I don't have fare, bad weather, my parents won't allow. Even from a 23 year old, . You name it).
Even if you meet them, they are too afraid and don't want to be seen with you in public, because they fear the judgement of others.
Of the 86 girls I only met 3 and hat sex with 2. The problem was getting them to meet you for the first date. Some of them have never met a foreigner.
Some examples:
- You will spend weeks chatting with a girl from the same city just to find out she does not want to meet in person. Her requirement: 1 year of chatting before meeting a guy in person. Yeah right! Thanks for wasting my time.
- Girls are really flaky and even if you play the long game with weeks of chatting and videocalls, chances are she cancels the meeting the last second.
- Telling them to come straight to my hotel and being a bit aggressive and more pushy didn't work either and will shy them away even more.
- Many of them agreed to meet but only far away in another city, even if you are near them. They fear public places with many people the most.
- You get to meet them but she brings her cousin, her friends or another family member so you have to pay for all of their food in the restaurant and you can't really try anything.
- One 19 year old managed to visit me for my second date. She stayed the night and we were kissing and cuddling. Wouldn't undress. When I tried to escalate things she said she's a virgin and she is not ready yet. When asked when she would be, she said maybe next month. Thank's, but I can't stay in this small city for another month.
The 2 girls I actually had sex with, had obligations (school) and couldn't travel anywhere else with me.
For me, Mindanao was a total letdown.
I'm sure you can have fun with girls 25+ because they seemed more open to me, and I saw a few other foreigners 60+ there, but the women they were with are way out of my age range 18-20.
I don't know how it is boots on the ground in other parts of the Philippines (Manila, Angeles, Leyte, Samar, Negros) and I hope someone can share some insights because when I look at the posts here, I know it's possible to have fun.
Not only in an Pattaya / Angeles environment. I think I picked the wrong location for meeting, dating and f*cking sweet Filipinas. Both for P4 P and for free.
Which locations should I try next time I come to the Philippines?
Keen Eye Joe 1
04-08-25, 13:25
Sorry buddy, but you are 10 years too late to reliably find holiday girlfriends, especially the types of girls you are attracted to. It's a problem worldwide for guys of all ages compared to the good old days for a lot of reasons. You're young so you possess both obvious advantages and a couple of not so obvious drawbacks when picking up local birds compared to a senior citizen like me.
Thanks to the WWW, women of desirable ages here are aware of the potential horror stories of hooking up with young foreign guys. These men have high sexpectations without bringing anything tangible to the table, like hope for a real relationship and a chance of bettering their meager lives.
You were a 23-year-old guy traveling in northeastern Mindanao. You're white and exotic-looking and are undoubtably handsome to their eyes. Unfortunately, plenty of women are going to judge you warily due to "Siargao Island Syndrome" (my newly crafted term).
In the past 5 years, Siargao Island in northeastern Mindanao has exploded as one of Asia's most prominent cheap backpacker tourist destinations for both young men and women from Caucasian-centric western countries. Surigao City is the major area airport and the staging port for ferries running back and forth between the mainland and the island. Whenever I make the drive up to Surigao, I'm amazed at how many buff, handsome, and most-likely testosterone-filled white guys I see compared to when I lived there 10 years ago.
Many of my local bar girl "friends" have roots in Surigao del Norte and Dinagat Islands provinces and have had first-hand dealings with the lads. These holiday players want to heavily drink and screw anything that moves before flying onward. I get it and I support having a good time on vacation.
The problem is there are very few secrets in Mindanao thanks to media influencers and Facebook busybodies. Word has spread that the young guys seemingly want to party, have unprotected sex, then leave, never to be heard from again. You're getting judged, perhaps unfairly, by the actions of your peers. My two bar friends each knew of girls who had gotten pregnant from these encounters and birthed a light skinned baby.
"Hey mom, I'm pregnant. Who's the father? His name is Michael. No, I do not know his last name but I think he is from Australia".
Also, let's not forget that 18-20-year-old Filipinas are either working locally and living at home or going to college in another city and living in a shared boarding house with friends. They have curfews or morning commitments, don't have a lot of disposable money for frills like travel fare for meeting a stranger, and don't want to be the subject of rumors in one of the Earth's most gossipy countries. Filipinas are among the most loving and caring groups of females in the world, but a sizeable percentage are still virgins in their late teens and early 20's.
My advice? Up your target age to 24-27. Stick to the large cities in all regions of the country to where oodles of young women have migrated because semi-decent jobs are hard to find in the country's remote areas. Don't try picking up women in the major malls like Robinsons and SM because there's too much competition from foreigners with the same game plan. Same thing with the online world because young hotties get inundated with messages from your horndog competitors.
Go off the beaten path within the developed areas of big cities to areas that foreigners don't often visit. I'm an old guy but I always get plenty of interest from salesgirls at these two retail outlets very near to the Carriedo Station on the LRT-1 train line in the city of Manila: Isetan Department Store and the SM Clearance store. There are oodles of small malls in Manila and Cebu, Google Maps is your friend.
Go to the top floor of the Farmer's Plaza mall in Cubao, where there are dozens of small merchandise kiosks staffed with bored young girls who enjoy talking to we exotic foreigners. Last year I exchanged contact details with a salesgirl at a clothing stall, and at 9 pm I received a text asking if I wanted to meet. Unfortunately, I was sitting in my favorite Cubao strip club and had left my phone in the room.
Manila's Carriedo Station, Divisoria, and Baclaran shopping districts are loaded with potential salesgirls and customer gold mines. Let's not forget the NCCC malls and Victoria Plaza mall in Davao City. Oh, and all four malls in Tagum City (90 minutes north of Davao City). And there are a thousand more promising potential spots that I'm unaware of.
If you're going to try a smaller city, like say Dagupan City in Pangasinan province, search Facebook for "Dagupan restobar". These combination cheap food and cheap drink clubs cater to lower-middle to middle-income customers. The owners often post pics of the nighttime atmosphere and clientele, and as a young guy you have a good chance of getting attention from the tables of multiple fun-loving unescorted women as the night progresses and the ladies get drunker and more aggressive while sharing 320 peso bottles of Tanduay Select. How do I know it works? Experience has taught me well.
Lastly, don't be so picky and lower your standards a tad. You may not find perfection, but you should be able to find someone adequate and bring home some fun memories.
So, last year in June I asked in the Thailand, Pattaya forum and everyone recommended to go to the Philippines instead for a cute travel GF. I'm 23 years old.
I still went to Pattaya for a couple of weeks just to see for myself but didn't like the scene there at all. The girls were hardcore professionals, I hardly found girls I that I would have liked.
My target age range is 18-20 without tattoos, dark skin and below 50 kg. Many of my meetings were very transactional because some of them had multiple customers per day and they were only doing ST and LT sessions with condom. Very little to no GFS and dating scene is non-existent.
After that I spent 3 months (November, December, January) in Mindanao.
I chose Mindanao because it's not run over by tourists and I can find more traditional girls there. I'm not looking for P4 P exclusively so I'm keeping all my options open.
I went to many places including Digos, Davao, Tagum, General Santos, Butuan, Cagayan de Oro, Malaybalay and Valencia.
I did the deed with only 2 girls in 3 months, and I paid only 1 girl.
I searched mostly online because I couldn't really approach them on the street. They felt uncomfortable even in normal situations because some of them never talked with a foreigner before, and in many cases, they call you "sir".
I had chats with 86 girls on Whatsapp after I matched with them on dating profiles (where I got hundreds of likes).
The attention you're getting here as a white guy is insane, outside on the street the girls are looking from the other side of the street, smiling, giggling and waving at you. But once you actually come over and talk to them they.
Become petrified.
Unfortunately, that attention turns out to be the main problem in Mindanao. You want to get to know young and attractive women (there are plenty), but they are too shy and conservative. The total opposite of Pattaya girls.
I had trouble setting up meetings because they had all kinds of excuses why they can't go on a date (I have school, too far, I don't have fare, bad weather, my parents won't allow. Even from a 23 year old, . You name it).
Even if you meet them, they are too afraid and don't want to be seen with you in public, because they fear the judgement of others.
Of the 86 girls I only met 3 and hat sex with 2. The problem was getting them to meet you for the first date. Some of them have never met a foreigner.
Some examples:
- You will spend weeks chatting with a girl from the same city just to find out she does not want to meet in person. Her requirement: 1 year of chatting before meeting a guy in person. Yeah right! Thanks for wasting my time.
- Girls are really flaky and even if you play the long game with weeks of chatting and videocalls, chances are she cancels the meeting the last second.
- Telling them to come straight to my hotel and being a bit aggressive and more pushy didn't work either and will shy them away even more.
- Many of them agreed to meet but only far away in another city, even if you are near them. They fear public places with many people the most.
- You get to meet them but she brings her cousin, her friends or another family member so you have to pay for all of their food in the restaurant and you can't really try anything.
- One 19 year old managed to visit me for my second date. She stayed the night and we were kissing and cuddling. Wouldn't undress. When I tried to escalate things she said she's a virgin and she is not ready yet. When asked when she would be, she said maybe next month. Thank's, but I can't stay in this small city for another month.
The 2 girls I actually had sex with, had obligations (school) and couldn't travel anywhere else with me.
For me, Mindanao was a total letdown.
I'm sure you can have fun with girls 25+ because they seemed more open to me, and I saw a few other foreigners 60+ there, but the women they were with are way out of my age range 18-20.
I don't know how it is boots on the ground in other parts of the Philippines (Manila, Angeles, Leyte, Samar, Negros) and I hope someone can share some insights because when I look at the posts here, I know it's possible to have fun.
Not only in an Pattaya / Angeles environment. I think I picked the wrong location for meeting, dating and f*cking sweet Filipinas. Both for P4 P and for free.
Which locations should I try next time I come to the Philippines?
I chose Mindanao because it's not run over by tourists and I can find more traditional girls there. . The total opposite of Pattaya girls.
?Traditoopnal girls go fro traditional guys like me. You are comparing them to Pattaya, hooker HQ. I beryou have hungry horn dog written all over you. The long game to you is about 5 minutes. Know thyself.
WestCoast1
04-08-25, 17:37
So, last year in June I asked in the Thailand, Pattaya forum and everyone recommended to go to the Philippines instead for a cute travel GF. I'm 23 years old.
I still went to Pattaya for a couple of weeks just to see for myself but didn't like the scene there at all. The girls were hardcore professionals, I hardly found girls I that I would have liked.
My target age range is 18-20 without tattoos, dark skin and below 50 kg. Many of my meetings were very transactional because some of them had multiple customers per day and they were only doing ST and LT sessions with condom. Very little to no GFS and dating scene is non-existent.Previously mentioned as a difference between pinay and Thai girls. Possible failure to RTTF. Short version:
Thai girls: better looking figures, little or no English, more shark-like.
Pinay: Just the opposite.
After that I spent 3 months (November, December, January) in Mindanao.Most everything below this line in the OP's report has been covered previously. The girls of Mindanao are more shy, can spot a tourist a mile away, and take a lot of dating to get her kit off. I myself posted more than a decade ago regarding my first trip to CDO that I met with 19 girls at a coffee shop over my first two days, and while every one of them agreed prior to my arrival to come after the coffee to my hotel, zero ladies availed of such. "You must be joking Westie? What my family will think of that?" NINETEEN strikeouts in 2 days.
They felt uncomfortable even in normal situations because some of them never talked with a foreigner before, and in many cases, they call you "sir".SOP for pinay anywhere. They might be calling you "sir" for a full year (or forever) after you just banged them.
The attention you're getting here as a white guy is insane, outside on the street the girls are looking from the other side of the street, smiling, giggling and waving at you. But once you actually come over and talk to them they. Become petrified.Same.
Unfortunately, that attention turns out to be the main problem in Mindanao. You want to get to know young and attractive women (there are plenty), but they are too shy and conservative. The total opposite of Pattaya girls.Same, we've discussed this for years.
I had trouble setting up meetings because they had all kinds of excuses why they can't go on a date (I have school, too far, I don't have fare, bad weather, my parents won't allow. Even from a 23 year old, . You name it).One girl was a 30+ year-old police officer. Finally she just came out and admitted it, after all the above excuses: "OK my mom won't allow it". You carry a side-arm every day, a baton, pepper spray, and you were trained in at least one torture technique. And you take marching orders from your mother? "Of course. She's my mother".
Even if you meet them, they are too afraid and don't want to be seen with you in public, because they fear the judgement of others.Mentioned. We sometimes meet them in a different nearby town.
Of the 86 girls I only met 3 and hat sex with 2. The problem was getting them to meet you for the first date. Some of them have never met a foreigner.You wanted shy girls from the province. You got shy girls from the province. Shyness is so much a part of the culture, that level of shyness in every situation is discussed regularly.
Some examples:
- You will spend weeks chatting with a girl from the same city just to find out she does not want to meet in person. Her requirement: 1 year of chatting before meeting a guy in person. Yeah right! Thanks for wasting my time.A general problem in any country. Move on to other fish.
- Girls are really flaky and even if you play the long game with weeks of chatting and videocalls, chances are she cancels the meeting the last second.Mentioned.
- Telling them to come straight to my hotel and being a bit aggressive and more pushy didn't work either and will shy them away even more.Mentioned.
- Many of them agreed to meet but only far away in another city, even if you are near them. They fear public places with many people the most.Mentioned.
- You get to meet them but she brings her cousin, her friends or another family member so you have to pay for all of their food in the restaurant and you can't really try anything.Mentioned.
- One 19 year old managed to visit me for my second date. She stayed the night and we were kissing and cuddling. Wouldn't undress. When I tried to escalate things she said she's a virgin and she is not ready yet. When asked when she would be, she said maybe next month. Thank's, but I can't stay in this small city for another month.A write-off casualty, to be expected sometimes (like the occasional pick-pocket).
I think I picked the wrong location for meeting, dating and f*cking sweet Filipinas. Both for P4 P and for free.Mentioned. You got to put in a lot of time / effort to bag them (as in: dating them). Once bagged, it can be spectacular.
Which locations should I try next time I come to the Philippines? AC and Burgos / Makati.
Do see Goferring's Mindanao exploits from approximately 6 months ago: Many successes and failures.
One of the problems is that many of the reports I listed as 'Mentioned' are years (or a decade) old. You can't read them all.
Which locations should I try next time I come to the Philippines?
Try cebu. The culture there is a bit less conservative and the online dating game more developed. But like someone else said, they're going to look at you like a person who is going to bang and run. If you're really trying to date a girl, its difficult, just like anywhere else. You're probably better off finding a female foreinger who has the same mentality as you to travel around with. Otherwise, just get used to paying for it for fast fun. I'm sure there are plenty of P4 P girls who would give the GFE experience that you're looking for, since you seem like your a good looking young lad.
My target age range is 18-20 without tattoos, dark skin and below 50 kg...
I chose Mindanao because it's not run over by tourists and I can find more traditional girls there. I'm not looking for P4 P exclusively so I'm keeping all my options open...
I had trouble setting up meetings because they had all kinds of excuses why they can't go on a date (I have school, too far, I don't have fare, bad weather, my parents won't allow. Even from a 23 year old, . You name it).
Even if you meet them, they are too afraid and don't want to be seen with you in public, because they fear the judgement of others.
Of the 86 girls I only met 3 and hat sex with 2. The problem was getting them to meet you for the first date. Some of them have never met a foreigner...
I don't know how it is boots on the ground in other parts of the Philippines (Manila, Angeles, Leyte, Samar, Negros) and I hope someone can share some insights because when I look at the posts here, I know it's possible to have fun.
Not only in an Pattaya / Angeles environment. I think I picked the wrong location for meeting, dating and f*cking sweet Filipinas. Both for P4 P and for free.
Which locations should I try next time I come to the Philippines?It looks like you got what you wanted but were surprised at just how traditional the good girls are. All of the excuses you listed and complaints you had are very real. The girls were not lying to you. This is doubly true for young girls in your age bracket. Their life experiences and family ties are totally different to college aged girls in the west. Work, study and family commitments are very real and you will have to work around them as they will take priority over you. I would caution against aggressively giving girls ultimatums. It typically just scares them off and paints you in a very negative light. As you said, some girls are too shy to come straight to your room but others are too shy to meet in public. It's much better to just give them the choice and ability to agree to what ever suits them. Ask of they would like to meet for a coffee or is it easier just to meet here in the hotel.
I'd agree that there are many times that being a young guy actually works against you, especially if you have been hopping between cities with a girl in every port. Good girls don't date like we do in the west. Rather they look for moving immediately to a relationship. They would see a young guy who will likely move on quickly to another girl as a negative and certainly don't want to have to explain this to their friends and family. My recommendation would be to be 100% upfront with them so that the girls that want something different don't waste your time and those that will meet you, know what they are getting. Don't be offensive but just be truthful and say that you're not ready to settle down but would love to meet some one who could hang out and show you around.
The provincial centres really do take a lot of time and work so you may be better off going to areas that girls migrate to for work or school. There, they have much more freedom to meet guys and have some fun with out being seen. Cebu is the online capital of the Philippines and would be my recommendation for a first stop. I'm surprised you didn't find much in Davao.
I realise you are young and not looking for grandmas but you might find that really young and good-looking girls have too many options and commitments to drop everything to be with you. Maybe move up to mid twenty something and be open to giving her some "help" with bills or school fees. Remember that all relationships have to be mutually beneficial especially if you are not offering an ongoing partnership, stability and something that she can show off to her friends and family. The concept of a meeting a foreign guy just for laughs and a a wild night is totally foreign to most of the provincial girls.
Here is the Mindanao trip summary that Westie wrote about. Do go back and read up as many others have posted reports on areas other than the typical Angeles or Burgos.
Trip summary for my own benefit. Search Term Mindanao.
One girl was a 30+ year-old police officer. Finally she just came out and admitted it, after all the above excuses: "OK my mom won't allow it". You carry a side-arm every day, a baton, pepper spray, and you were trained in at least one torture technique. And you take marching orders from your mother? "Of course. She's my mother".
Mentioned. We sometimes meet them in a different nearby town.
You wanted shy girls from the province. You got shy girls from the province. Shyness is so much a part of the culture, that level of shyness in every situation is discussed regularly.
The OP could also look in the totally opposite direction: many working girls would jump at the opportunity for a bit of fun with a young stud. It gives her a break from sucking 70 yo dick every night. She also has spare time and money and doesn't care about gossip. Others may disagree but hookers make great girl friends if you go in eyes open.
Another would be pina girl groups on holiday at resort towns: Bohol, Boracay, Palawan etc. Same there too: the girls have spare time while on holiday and are away from prying eyes.
G.
Old And Ugly
04-09-25, 03:33
I did extensive reporting during my 1 month Davao stay, out of boredom. Not all of it applies to you, but you could had found some info there. If too long or boring, the last report was a summary of the trip.
Trevor2522
04-09-25, 07:15
So, last year in June I asked in the Thailand, Pattaya forum and everyone recommended to go to the Philippines instead for a cute travel GF. I'm 23 years old. I still went to Pattaya for a couple of weeks just to see for myself but didn't like the scene there at all.SE Asia is old-men's territory for later life! If advising my younger self, I would suggest doing the Latina & East European lands whilst still young; they are much more 'ageist'. The Asian LBFMs (Little Brown F-Machines) will always be waiting for you. If you do get Asian fever young, and I don't blame you, stick to the casual 'hookers' -- not that they bear any resemblance to their Western sisters -- or just date regular Thai, or Pinay city (often 'away from province') girls. What were you expecting from Pattaya? It's Thailand's social-security office!
The Philippines is still stuck in its Iberian-colonial, no divorce, adultery-illegal, pseudo-inquisitional time-warp. Don't waste your time leading-on 'good' girls (and their families) -- most of whom are obsessed with marriage, especially to a 'rich' 'Kano. Thai vs. PI? Look at the tourist arrivals, pre-scamdemic (2019): Thailand 40m vs Philippines 8m. Plenty of regular Thai girls keen to meet a 23yo Westerner, without all the dating and marriage-pressure drama of the Phils. The Philippines is still a third-world country, whilst Thailand (and, to a lesser extent, Cambodia & Vietnam) forge ahead. Flame away, chaps!
WestCoast1
04-09-25, 11:20
The Philippines is still a third-world country, whilst Thailand (and, to a lesser extent, Cambodia & Vietnam) forge ahead. Flame away, chaps! No flame. Agree with much of what you said. The original poster (DTb) seems to have missed basic Phils culture, possibly thinking the culture here would be similar to his (or other) country. Unfortunately there's no real primer or textbook on this (other than possibly Filipina Pea or Smart Girl Philippines).
Locamotive
04-09-25, 21:44
So, last year in June I asked in the Thailand, Pattaya forum and everyone recommended to go to the Philippines instead for a cute travel GF. I'm 23 years old.
I still went to Pattaya for a couple of weeks just to see for myself but didn't like the scene there at all. The girls were hardcore professionals, I hardly found girls I that I would have liked.
My target age range is 18-20 without tattoos, dark skin and below 50 kg. Many of my meetings were very transactional because some of them had multiple customers per day and they were only doing ST and LT sessions with condom. Very little to no GFS and dating scene is non-existent.
After that I spent 3 months (November, December, January) in Mindanao.
I chose Mindanao because it's not run over by tourists and I can find more traditional girls there. I'm not looking for P4 P exclusively so I'm keeping all my options open.
I went to many places including Digos, Davao, Tagum, General Santos, Butuan, Cagayan de Oro, Malaybalay and Valencia.
I did the deed with only 2 girls in 3 months, and I paid only 1 girl.
I searched mostly online because I couldn't really approach them on the street. They felt uncomfortable even in normal situations because some of them never talked with a foreigner before, and in many cases, they call you "sir".
I had chats with 86 girls on Whatsapp after I matched with them on dating profiles (where I got hundreds of likes).
The attention you're getting here as a white guy is insane, outside on the street the girls are looking from the other side of the street, smiling, giggling and waving at you. But once you actually come over and talk to them they.
Become petrified.
Unfortunately, that attention turns out to be the main problem in Mindanao. You want to get to know young and attractive women (there are plenty), but they are too shy and conservative. The total opposite of Pattaya girls.
I had trouble setting up meetings because they had all kinds of excuses why they can't go on a date (I have school, too far, I don't have fare, bad weather, my parents won't allow. Even from a 23 year old, . You name it).
Even if you meet them, they are too afraid and don't want to be seen with you in public, because they fear the judgement of others.
Of the 86 girls I only met 3 and hat sex with 2. The problem was getting them to meet you for the first date. Some of them have never met a foreigner.
Some examples:
- You will spend weeks chatting with a girl from the same city just to find out she does not want to meet in person. Her requirement: 1 year of chatting before meeting a guy in person. Yeah right! Thanks for wasting my time.
- Girls are really flaky and even if you play the long game with weeks of chatting and videocalls, chances are she cancels the meeting the last second.
- Telling them to come straight to my hotel and being a bit aggressive and more pushy didn't work either and will shy them away even more.
- Many of them agreed to meet but only far away in another city, even if you are near them. They fear public places with many people the most.
- You get to meet them but she brings her cousin, her friends or another family member so you have to pay for all of their food in the restaurant and you can't really try anything.
- One 19 year old managed to visit me for my second date. She stayed the night and we were kissing and cuddling. Wouldn't undress. When I tried to escalate things she said she's a virgin and she is not ready yet. When asked when she would be, she said maybe next month. Thank's, but I can't stay in this small city for another month.
The 2 girls I actually had sex with, had obligations (school) and couldn't travel anywhere else with me.
For me, Mindanao was a total letdown.
I'm sure you can have fun with girls 25+ because they seemed more open to me, and I saw a few other foreigners 60+ there, but the women they were with are way out of my age range 18-20.
I don't know how it is boots on the ground in other parts of the Philippines (Manila, Angeles, Leyte, Samar, Negros) and I hope someone can share some insights because when I look at the posts here, I know it's possible to have fun.
Not only in an Pattaya / Angeles environment. I think I picked the wrong location for meeting, dating and f*cking sweet Filipinas. Both for P4 P and for free.
Which locations should I try next time I come to the Philippines?In your first sentance I saw the problem " I am 23 years old". You my friend have entered the twilight zone. Every culture and norm you knew from the west does not apply here, everything is backwards. When I first came here younger guys I worked with at the time would say, we're going out, come with us you'll attract the pussy. As I said this world is backwards from the west. Give it about 30 years and you'll be in pussy Disneyland like the rest of us. Really at 23 you have no need to be here. At your age I got laid all I wanted in the US. God made Asia to even things out for those of us as we get older. I've seen younger guys like yourself hit on my woman when at at bars, I just laugh. Poor kid he has no chance he just don't know it yet. The women will often say did you see that kid hitting on me, yeah I saw, he does not know any better. Guess not, no way ID go out with a guy his age. Don't get discourage, just be thankful a day will come when you'll have more pussy here than you can handle.
Trevor2522
04-10-25, 06:29
The original poster (DTb) seems to have missed basic Phils culture ... there's no real primer or textbook on this.The 6-billion-to-1 rule: men produce 6,000,000,000 sperm in the same time as one, monthly, female egg ripens. One man, at the ratio of one sperm to one egg, could theoretically supply sufficient sperm to fertilise every woman of childbearing age on earth. Within one month!
Why would a man stick with one woman, whose social market value declines after age 23? By their early thirties, most Filipinas have had children and are burnt-out; very short shelf life. The percentage of attractive ones is also significantly-lower than females in Thailand or Vietnam.
Marriage has always been the construct of ruling lites who want social stability and control. The only concessions have been the muslims' 4-wives rule and turning a blind eye to casual promiscuity and prostitution.
Locamotive
04-10-25, 22:04
So, last year in June I asked in the Thailand, Pattaya forum and everyone recommended to go to the Philippines instead for a cute travel GF. I'm 23 years old.
I still went to Pattaya for a couple of weeks just to see for myself but didn't like the scene there at all. The girls were hardcore professionals, I hardly found girls I that I would have liked.
My target age range is 18-20 without tattoos, dark skin and below 50 kg. Many of my meetings were very transactional because some of them had multiple customers per day and they were only doing ST and LT sessions with condom. Very little to no GFS and dating scene is non-existent.
After that I spent 3 months (November, December, January) in Mindanao.
I chose Mindanao because it's not run over by tourists and I can find more traditional girls there. I'm not looking for P4 P exclusively so I'm keeping all my options open.
I went to many places including Digos, Davao, Tagum, General Santos, Butuan, Cagayan de Oro, Malaybalay and Valencia.
I did the deed with only 2 girls in 3 months, and I paid only 1 girl.
I searched mostly online because I couldn't really approach them on the street. They felt uncomfortable even in normal situations because some of them never talked with a foreigner before, and in many cases, they call you "sir".
I had chats with 86 girls on Whatsapp after I matched with them on dating profiles (where I got hundreds of likes).
The attention you're getting here as a white guy is insane, outside on the street the girls are looking from the other side of the street, smiling, giggling and waving at you. But once you actually come over and talk to them they.
Become petrified.
Unfortunately, that attention turns out to be the main problem in Mindanao. You want to get to know young and attractive women (there are plenty), but they are too shy and conservative. The total opposite of Pattaya girls.
I had trouble setting up meetings because they had all kinds of excuses why they can't go on a date (I have school, too far, I don't have fare, bad weather, my parents won't allow. Even from a 23 year old, . You name it).
Even if you meet them, they are too afraid and don't want to be seen with you in public, because they fear the judgement of others.
Of the 86 girls I only met 3 and hat sex with 2. The problem was getting them to meet you for the first date. Some of them have never met a foreigner.
Some examples:
- You will spend weeks chatting with a girl from the same city just to find out she does not want to meet in person. Her requirement: 1 year of chatting before meeting a guy in person. Yeah right! Thanks for wasting my time.
- Girls are really flaky and even if you play the long game with weeks of chatting and videocalls, chances are she cancels the meeting the last second.
- Telling them to come straight to my hotel and being a bit aggressive and more pushy didn't work either and will shy them away even more.
- Many of them agreed to meet but only far away in another city, even if you are near them. They fear public places with many people the most.
- You get to meet them but she brings her cousin, her friends or another family member so you have to pay for all of their food in the restaurant and you can't really try anything.
- One 19 year old managed to visit me for my second date. She stayed the night and we were kissing and cuddling. Wouldn't undress. When I tried to escalate things she said she's a virgin and she is not ready yet. When asked when she would be, she said maybe next month. Thank's, but I can't stay in this small city for another month.
The 2 girls I actually had sex with, had obligations (school) and couldn't travel anywhere else with me.
For me, Mindanao was a total letdown.
I'm sure you can have fun with girls 25+ because they seemed more open to me, and I saw a few other foreigners 60+ there, but the women they were with are way out of my age range 18-20.
I don't know how it is boots on the ground in other parts of the Philippines (Manila, Angeles, Leyte, Samar, Negros) and I hope someone can share some insights because when I look at the posts here, I know it's possible to have fun.
Not only in an Pattaya / Angeles environment. I think I picked the wrong location for meeting, dating and f*cking sweet Filipinas. Both for P4 P and for free.
Which locations should I try next time I come to the Philippines?My first reply to you was correct your age will be a issue. Then I more closely read your post, you were in Mindanao. Uh yeah that can be tough even for older guys. Is it possible, oh yes but it requires a bit more time, but true the women down there are beautiful. That's more a retirement destination to apply our hobby, two or 3 weeks can be iffy. I went there once myself, tons of interest but takes a get to know you period, did not seem practical for the short timers.
Curious GFe
04-18-25, 19:49
The OP could also look in the totally opposite direction: many working girls would jump at the opportunity for a bit of fun with a young stud. It gives her a break from sucking 70 yo dick every night. She also has spare time and money and doesn't care about gossip. Others may disagree but hookers make great girl friends if you go in eyes open.
Another would be pina girl groups on holiday at resort towns: Bohol, Boracay, Palawan etc. Same there too: the girls have spare time while on holiday and are away from prying eyes.
G.I'm a Filipina and a former walker. I used to be active on this site a long time ago—it helped me a lot back then, not just with finding clients but also with side info and insights that were actually more useful than what you'd get on Twitter or Reddit.
Back in the day, we preferred older men over studs. Why? Because it made the job easier. Older men were usually more generous and respectful, at least from our experience and perception.
As for the girls who choose the "stud" type, it's often a different game. It's more like baiting—trying to make the guy fall, get hooked, and maybe even marry her. That's the ultimate goal for some: land a so-called "Passport Bro. ".
Now, seeing how PL evolved from a dating site into something like an online casa is interesting. It shows how the game—and the girls—are adapting with technology. And honestly, I find this forum way more informative than the usual social media noise.
Curious GFe
04-18-25, 19:51
The OP could also look in the totally opposite direction: many working girls would jump at the opportunity for a bit of fun with a young stud. It gives her a break from sucking 70 yo dick every night. She also has spare time and money and doesn't care about gossip. Others may disagree but hookers make great girl friends if you go in eyes open.
Another would be pina girl groups on holiday at resort towns: Bohol, Boracay, Palawan etc. Same there too: the girls have spare time while on holiday and are away from prying eyes.
G.I'm a Filipina and a former walker. I used to be active on this site a long time agoit helped me a lot back then, not just with finding clients but also with side info and insights that were actually more useful than what you'd get on Twitter or Reddit.
Back in the day, we preferred older men over studs. Why? Because it made the job easier. Older men were usually more generous and respectful, at least from our experience and perception.
As for the girls who choose the "stud" type, it's often a different game. It's more like baitingtrying to make the guy fall, get hooked, and maybe even marry her. That's the ultimate goal for some: land a so-called "Passport Bro. ".
Now, seeing how PL evolved from a dating site into something like an online casa is interesting. It shows how the gameand the girlsare adapting with technology. And honestly, I find this forum way more informative than the usual social media noise.
Old And Ugly
04-20-25, 20:23
I'm a Filipina and a former walker. I used to be active on this site a long time agoit helped me a lot back then, not just with finding clients but also with side info and insights that were actually more useful than what you'd get on Twitter or Reddit.
Back in the day, we preferred older men over studs. Why? Because it made the job easier. Older men were usually more generous and respectful, at least from our experience and perception.
As for the girls who choose the "stud" type, it's often a different game. It's more like baitingtrying to make the guy fall, get hooked, and maybe even marry her. That's the ultimate goal for some: land a so-called "Passport Bro. ".
Now, seeing how PL evolved from a dating site into something like an online casa is interesting. It shows how the gameand the girlsare adapting with technology. And honestly, I find this forum way more informative than the usual social media noise.Since the secret is out, and you know about this forum, help us out with some info about the walkers on Face Book, bridge the gap between us and the girls, teach us the modus operandi. Or if there are some other online favorites, let us know what the pages or the apps are, that way you're helping us and your filipina compatriots too. My GF is filipina, but she comes from a different world, and have limited knowledge about it.
In Balibago, small time punks scout the area and knocikng off the apartments of foriegners for TVs, phones etc happens a lot. They climb buildings to get into higher storied wndows, Petty crime is a reality and being a foreigner = target on your back.
Though I get it about forward planning, I guess I am saying that the rose tinted glasses lot do not see it that way. When you are not earning and you are the go to guy for handouts and freebies, your stash vanishes quickly.
My fear would be to live there for 5+ years and then have a cash flow problem, making going home impossible and staying not that much better.
And then there are the hospital emergencies. Sari sari stores are ok but they seem what a guy would do to keep his Pinay lady friend busy and drinking for dawn to dusk is real defeatism but what else could he do? Watch pinoy cartoons all day?
Mr Enternational
04-24-25, 17:36
Though I get it about forward planning, I guess I am saying that the rose tinted glasses lot do not see it that way. When you are not earning and you are the go to guy for handouts and freebies, your stash vanishes quickly.That would be your own fault for not saying no. You can't save the world, and it does not take long to end up in the hole right next to everyone else you are trying to save. Nobody helped me make it and I damn sure do not need help with spending it. Where do this obligated to give money away shit come from?
That would be your own fault for not saying no. You can't save the world, and it does not take long to end up in the hole right next to everyone else you are trying to save. Nobody helped me make it and I damn sure do not need help with spending it. Where do this obligated to give money away shit come from?I am not sure where you are going with this but one cannot gorge when everyone around one starves. I am quite happy to throw a LITTLE money around and I do that a lot when in the Philippines, not because I am Jesus but because it does make a difference and I know I have been scammed in small ways many times. Don't sweat the small stuff etc.
Lester Pigott was a famous jockey, who was as tight as fuck with money. One day, returning from a race with another jockey, they pulled into a gas station where he bought two ice creams and ate both of them himself. Not a fun guy.
Last time, there were specific incidents where I came to the aid of honest women who were ripped off, as the money, small to me, was big to them. I asked a fellow European who hires folk locally what he would have done and he says he would have fired the culprit and make my pal pay up. That is what eventually happened though I gladly picked up her tab and have no regrets over it or many similar generally forgettable deeds. I would do them all again if that were possible.
The difference, besides basic philosophy of life between me and you lot, is I know I have a way back out to home. I imagine that, were I to live in the Philippines, the nagging would be non stop and I also imagine it works on some folk. Certainly I know several guys who have hooked up with several hooker, s one after the other and paid the financial price in real estate etc for that.
For the hookers, it is a numbers game. Bonk 1000 guys and fleece one. I don't want to be that one guy.
I have spent the last hour orgnaising screwing a guy every which way becauise he ropped me off and I have vendettas to settle from decades ago still. I know guys in their 60's who claim to be happy with their lot in the Phils, small businesses, muff on tap etc. I am not sure I would thrive there. A numbers game.
Old And Ugly
04-25-25, 16:23
I'm kind of the same concept, cannot stuff my face at Kokomos and just hush away some old bagger while doing it, even if I'm aware that maybe it's a scam and maybe they make a thousand a day by begging (which I don't believe), I always have a few twenties for them on the countertop next to me. Also I take care everyday of the mini Dustin Hoffman, the chewing gum short leg lady, the old mosquito lady, and few others. While I'm aware that I can't be Mother Theresa, I feel at peace with myself by doing these little things. I have my charity spending limit set at 400/ day and I'm not out there daily, so it adds up to max $100/ month for the "guilty tax". I know that lots of guys think is stupid what I'm doing, I wish I was rich, so I can help some more, but mongering is the main purpose of being in the PH so that takes precedence.
WestCoast1
04-25-25, 17:12
"I know guys in their 60's who claim to be happy with their lot in the Phils, small businesses, muff on tap etc. I am not sure I would thrive there."
Ya, its not for everyone: Terrible infrastructure. Broken roads and sidewalks. Smog. Hot / humid. Bad traffic, even in the provinces. Poverty everywhere. Scammers. Shamans. Roosters and dogs abound. Non-existent sex education.
But maybe there is something there for the other gents.
Mr Enternational
04-25-25, 17:17
I am not sure where you are going with this but one cannot gorge when everyone around one starves.Who says a person has to gorge if they save their own shit that they earned for their own use? As said before, if you make it, then you spend it as you see fit.
"Terrible infrastructure. Broken roads and sidewalks. Smog. Hot / humid. Bad traffic, even in the provinces. Poverty everywhere. Scammers. Shamans. Roosters and dogs abound. Non-existent sex education..Roosters are ok but the rest.
I'm kind of the same concept, cannot stuff my face at Kokomos and just hush away some old bagger while doing it, even if I'm aware that maybe it's a scam and maybe they make a thousand a day by begging (which I don't believe), I always have a few twenties for them on the countertop next to me. Also I take care everyday of the mini Dustin Hoffman, the chewing gum short leg lady, the old mosquito lady, and few others..I have fucked a few of those also rans. To each their own, I guess. Awful seeing yesterday's leftovers moving around in the mid day sun hoping to get a short time. Time before last, I bought men's underwear that were too small for me. One of my flower selling roots, thin as a wisp, gladly took them off me. Only time in my life I have given underpants to women.
Awful seeing yesterday's leftovers moving around in the mid day sun hoping to get a short time. Many guys and girls don't realise just how hard hooking is on the mind and body. Constant alcohol, drugs, being used and abused literally fucks the life out of girls and they age very quickly. Many times I've been told some desperate bag lady was once the prettiest girl in town with a slew of customers.
G.
MongerHunger
04-26-25, 07:28
Since the secret is out, and you know about this forum, help us out with some info about the walkers on Face Book, bridge the gap between us and the girls, teach us the modus operandi. Or if there are some other online favorites, let us know what the pages or the apps are, that way you're helping us and your filipina compatriots too. My GF is filipina, but she comes from a different world, and have limited knowledge about it.Sample Walkers.
Many guys and girls don't realise just how hard hooking is on the mind and body. Constant alcohol, drugs, being used and abused literally fucks the life out of girls and they age very quickly. Many times I've been told some desperate bag lady was once the prettiest girl in town with a slew of customers.
G.It's an unfortunate reality but it comes with the territory. That's one of the most frustrating things about Filipinas and Thai girls in the game, they think the gravy train will carry on forever. I don't doubt for one bit the past it ladies had suitors willing to marry them and take them away from the life, but as the saying goes you can take the girl out of the bar but you can't take the bar out of the girl. I'the expand that and change "bar" to "scene". I've personally seen way too many girls from the early 2010's who are now in their mid-late 30's now begging to be taken for a fraction of what the used to charge with a high chin all those years back. I see many younger girls in today's scene making the exact same mistakes and already know where 90% of them will end up. It's sad and frustrating, but it is that it is.
Mr Enternational
04-26-25, 18:31
I see many younger girls in today's scene making the exact same mistakes and already know where 90% of them will end up. It's sad and frustrating, but it is that it is.Yep. Pushing a food cart. I do not see it as frustrating or sad. It is what it is. But don't come 10 years down the road trying to get the 1000 baht that I am offering today. Sometimes I do fuck chicks for how they used to look though!
Old And Ugly
04-27-25, 08:50
Sample Walkers.This ones are easy, but some of the postings are so cryptic, that even my GF with a "degree in facebooking" can't make nothing out of them, it's all Greek.
Sample Walkers.They come in all shapes, sizes and prices.
I posted a few screen shots earlier of 'Class A' girls and their demands. There are also many posts showing girls who will fuck for free if a meal is included.
As a few have said, translating the posts into a girl actually fucking you is easier said than done.
Some enjoy it. I found it a huge sink hole for time with poor results. To each their own.
Compare that to the girl I have in the room now. She rang me up at 6 pm asking to drop around and I'll likely tell her to go home lunchtime tomorrow after handing her 2 k.
YMMV.
Enjoy. G.
Some enjoy it. I found it a huge sink hole for time with poor results. To each their own.
Compare that to the girl I have in the room now. She rang me up at 6 pm asking to drop around and I'll likely tell her to go home lunchtime tomorrow after handing her 2 k.
YMMV. Enjoy. G.Thanks G and sounds like you're having a great time. Great reports.
I will check out walkers just out of interest and to see how it works, but as mentioned previously, the time wasting factor has always been an issue for me. Hence why I only hit PL as an option recently in Boracay, as it's not a typical mongering destination. It did deliver some great results, but a lot of work.
As I've always said, it's great to think outside of the box rather than your typical bar routine.
Got a message today on WhatsApp today from my last Makati girl and contact.
'Miss you".
I know I'll walk straight back into that situation and then gather more contacts along the way.
It's a good way of securing a long time deal at 2 -3 k and these girls always appreciate it.
(And they're generally a lot more genuine than bar girls who who are ruthless in pursuit of the Peso, as opposed to offering a great time and service).
_Phil.
Thanks G and sounds like you're having a great time. Great reports.
I will check out walkers just out of interest and to see how it works, but as mentioned previously, the time wasting factor has always been an issue for me. Hence why I only hit PL as an option recently in Boracay, as it's not a typical mongering destination. It did deliver some great results, but a lot of work.
As I've always said, it's great to think outside of the box rather than your typical bar routine.
Got a message today on WhatsApp today from my last Makati girl and contact.
'Miss you".
I know I'll walk straight back into that situation and then gather more contacts along the way.
It's a good way of securing a long time deal at 2 -3 k and these girls always appreciate it.
(And they're generally a lot more genuine than bar girls who who are ruthless in pursuit of the Peso, as opposed to offering a great time and service).
_Phil.Thanks Phil. This visit has definitely been subtly different. Especially online. There have been fewer girls available and ready to drop around right now. Having said that, the quality of the girls that I have actually hooked up with have been much higher than normal. Not sure if this has been by accident or choice. I think I've only had one fuck simply because she was available. All the others have been solid lookers against my priorities. Luckily only one starfish too.
The fewer quality options online has also led me to cherry picking old contacts. Some, who previously told me they don't want to see me ever again, have changed their mind when I've actually returned.
When the PL runs dry, I might try your method of introductions from hotel staff.
Give Walkers a go but be prepared to walk away early or invest significant time.
Enjoy. G.
Mr Enternational
04-30-25, 02:34
The fewer quality options online has also led me to cherry picking old contacts. Some, who previously told me they don't want to see me ever again, have changed their mind when I've actually returned.They always start smelling themselves thinking the grass is greener on the other side. Then they realize the blessing they left behind. My favorite thing to tell a chick is don't miss your blessing.
They always start smelling themselves thinking the grass is greener on the other side. Then they realize the blessing they left behind. My favorite thing to tell a chick is don't miss your blessing.They like to play mind games but I've never had a girl refuse to see me because I didn't pay while I was away back home. Not once. Never.
I don't understand guys paying while they aren't even in country.
G.
They like to play mind games but I've never had a girl refuse to see me because I didn't pay while I was away back home. Not once. Never.
I don't understand guys paying while they aren't even in country.
G.Correct. I just returned back to PI (from USA -- elbow surgery) and the most difficult thing for me was telling my lovers here in PI that I don't send money when I'm out of the country. Constant pestering. Cheers, buddy.
Correct. I just returned back to PI (from USA -- elbow surgery) and the most difficult thing for me was telling my lovers here in PI that I don't send money when I'm out of the country. Constant pestering. Cheers, buddy.DC, the remedy is easy. Before going be sure to tell them that you are generous while here but won't receive calls or provide support while away. Then, when away, stick to the plan. Don't answer anything. Just don't engage. Even saying no and they think that's an opportunity to continue the negotiations.
They will soon learn that calling is fruitless and won't even bother.
Cheers. G.
Old And Ugly
04-30-25, 15:19
DC, the remedy is easy. Before going be sure to tell them that you are generous while here but won't receive calls or provide support while away. Then, when away, stick to the plan. Don't answer anything. Just don't engage. Even saying no and they think that's an opportunity to continue the negotiations.
They will soon learn that calling is fruitless and won't even bother.
Cheers. G.I simply don't engage in any conversation, and leave the messages unread, when I'm not requesting any services, there is nothing to talk about with them other than making appointments anyway.
Leaving the messages unread is important, so they don't think that you read it but ignored it. It's not like you're going to have any philosophical debates anyway.
Right now I cleared all the contact lists, except a handful that are extraordinary performers, or never ask for nothing.
Right now when I'm away for a few weeks, I do keep in touch with the GF, but of course that's a totally different story, the only thing she's requesting is help making decisions for her business.
Correct. I just returned back to PI (from USA -- elbow surgery) and the most difficult thing for me was telling my lovers here in PI that I don't send money when I'm out of the country. Constant pestering. Cheers, buddy.I just block them now DC if they get too aggressive. I've got one contact who has never asked for cash before, but on a recent WhatsApp chat she asked for help with the rent. I said that my bank won't allow me to send cash to foreign countries due to fraud and I'll look after you when I see you in person. Somehow she understood and said, 'That's okay, see you soon".
They like to play mind games but I've never had a girl refuse to see me because I didn't pay while I was away back home. Not once. Never.
I don't understand guys paying while they aren't even in country.G.I'll admit G, very early on in the piece, years ago, I slipped a girl a small amount of cash from home and learnt very quickly, never again. It was mainly to guarantee a bedding on my next visit. No need in the Phils, and I think a lot of the guys who do, aren't seasoned visitors, or are first timers who have done their balls over a hooker.
Thanks Phil. This visit has definitely been subtly different. Especially online. There have been fewer girls available and ready to drop around right now. Having said that, the quality of the girls that I have actually hooked up with have been much higher than normal. Not sure if this has been by accident or choice. I think I've only had one fuck simply because she was available. All the others have been solid lookers against my priorities. Luckily only one starfish too.
The fewer quality options online has also led me to cherry picking old contacts. Some, who previously told me they don't want to see me ever again, have changed their mind when I've actually returned. When the PL runs dry, I might try your method of introductions from hotel staff. Give Walkers a go but be prepared to walk away early or invest significant time. Enjoy. G.I never really know what I'm going to get every time I return, but it always works out fruitful G.
As for the hotel approach, I've generally relied on the security / door guys to line me something up. I've always scored, but the girl quality is always hit and miss.
However, on a recent trip, I befriended a young bar / restaurant manager. I was realistic and knew I'd have no chance with her. She has to be very professional in her job as she's just had a promotion.
However, we managed to hook up on the Pina's preferred platform, Facebook.
I've subtly asked if she has any friends that may be interested in spending some time with a guy who is over 50. "Sure Sir, I will look after you. I have many friends".
_ Phil.
However, on a recent trip, I befriended a young bar / restaurant manager. I was realistic and knew I'd have no chance with her. She has to be very professional in her job as she's just had a promotion.
However, we managed to hook up on the Pina's preferred platform, Facebook.
I've subtly asked if she has any friends that may be interested in spending some time with a guy who is over 50. "Sure Sir, I will look after you. I have many friends".
_ Phil.This concept that you can use a smile and personality to meet girls who don't suck dick for a living is wild. I might try it sometime. 😀.
Enjoy. G.
This concept that you can use a smile and personality to meet girls who don't suck dick for a living is wild. I might try it sometime. 😀.
Enjoy. G.Give it a go G.
It's amazing what 5 star Booking / Agoda review can lead to. Especially when you mention the girl by name in your review.
It wasn't necessarily a strategy. Just found opportunities by doing so.
"So, you were the one who left me a great review? I look after you Sir".
And so she has with 'her friends'.
(I would still love to 'nail' her though, but I know that's not going to happen).
Always befriend the hotel staff. It works in one way or another.
_ Phil.
Give it a go G.
It's amazing what 5 star Booking / Agoda review can lead to. Especially when you mention the girl by name in your review.
It wasn't necessarily a strategy. Just found opportunities by doing so.
"So, you were the one who left me a great review? I look after you Sir".
And so she has with 'her friends'.
(I would still love to 'nail' her though, but I know that's not going to happen).
Always befriend the hotel staff. It works in one way or another.
_ Phil.Agoda reviews is a good tip. Much more effective than simply being nice and polite.
Here's a tip for dating hotel staff. Obviously banging her on premises is totally out. It's immediate dismissal from a good job for her. Similarly, taking her to another hotel won't work because all her friends and classmates work there so it's the same result. One trip, go to her bar and let slip that you 'needed more space' for a few days so have booked an AirBnB. Just leave it at that. No handing out addresses. No making offers to meet later. At work, the walls have ears and if someone hears you, then again it has bad consequences for her. Later message her on FB and work your magic.
Good luck.
G.
Agoda reviews is a good tip. Much more effective than simply being nice and polite.
Here's a tip for dating hotel staff. Obviously banging her on premises is totally out. It's immediate dismissal from a good job for her. Similarly, taking her to another hotel won't work because all her friends and classmates work there so it's the same result. G.Thanks G,
But it won't happen with this girl.
Too much of a risk for her and she's way too innocent.
I knew that from the start.
That's not to say other hotel staff aren't off limits.
And as you suggested, there's always a work-around.
I've found over the years that hotel staff can give you more information than simply guiding you to the nearest market or getting you a taxi.
I'm still in touch with a few girls who worked in hotels in Cebu when I visited.
Return visits have been fruitful by keeping in touch and staying with them in a different area ie: Mactan.
_Phil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7qIe_SRpbY
He is now 79 and broke in the Philipinnes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7qIe_SRpbY
He is now 79 and broke in the Philipinnes.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBFwYSkrr78
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7qIe_SRpbY
He is now 79 and broke in the Philipinnes.I hate to say it, but you have to research and know the laws going into something like this. It is widely known that foreigners can't own land in the Philippines. How did he not know that? I also question how she could have been married several times before. There is no divorce in the Philippines. Possibly she was married and divorced in a third country.
Some of this is just life advice. When you marry a woman, you marry into her family, too, if she is close to them. Look at the kind of people they are. Never give what you will miss or what is necessary. Filipinas are wonderful people in general, but always go in with eyes wide open. I feel bad for this guy, but he didn't do the 7 p's, and it shows.
WestCoast1
05-05-25, 01:16
I hate to say it, but you have to research and know the laws going into something like this. It is widely known that foreigners can't own land in the Philippines. How did he not know that? Concur. However I still run into foreigners here on occasion who were not aware at the time.
I feel bad for this guy, but he didn't do the 7 p's, and it shows.What are the 7 p's?
Concur. However I still run into foreigners here on occasion who were not aware at the time.
What are the 7 p's?I would hope that planning and pay 4 play are some of them.
Concur. However I still run into foreigners here on occasion who were not aware at the time.
What are the 7 p's?Sorry, that's the drill sergeant I used to kow always said that. Proper prior planning prevents piss poor performance. That's true about almost everything in life! Especiallly if you are marrying someone in a different culture in a different country halfway around the world.
WestCoast1
05-05-25, 03:49
What are the 7 p's?
Sorry, that's the drill sergeant I used to kow always said that. Proper prior planning prevents piss poor performance. That's true about almost everything in life! Especiallly if you are marrying someone in a different culture in a different country halfway around the world.Bit like: Failure to prepare, is preparing to fail?
Concur. However I still run into foreigners here on occasion who were not aware at the time.Its one thing to hear about some occasional tourist who fell in love and paid for a house for his filipina, not knowing that he doesn't really own it. Or alternately some guy in his home country who met and fell in love with a pinay online, planning to retire and move here for happily-ever-after, transferred some money to her before his arrival for said home, then faced disappointment upon arrival. Its quite another to hear seasoned expats who visited here as tourists for many years, then retired and moved here, then made the same purchase for his GF / wife after living here for several years, still not knowing that it would not be his.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBFwYSkrr78
Interested persons might also want to check out Reekay's Lifebeyondthesea vlog on YT, regarding similar situation.
Its quite another to hear seasoned expats who visited here as tourists for many years, then retired and moved here, then made the same purchase for his GF / wife after living here for several years, still not knowing that it would not be his. Slight qualifier needed here.
My wife and I jointly own both a condo in Manila and a large home on a double lot in her family province.
We also each have official wills which leave both properties to the surviving spouse.
In the event of her pre-deceasing me, I will be sole owner of the condo (foreigners can own condos in the PH).
The property in her province is slightly more complicated. The house and lot will become mine as per the will, but only for a "reasonable period".
Here is the advice:
A foreigner in the Philippines cannot own land, but can own a house built on a Filipino spouse's land. After the Filipino wife's death, the foreigner has a reasonable amount of time to dispose of the property and collect the proceeds, or it will be transferred to the Filipino heirs. The specific timeframe is not defined by law, but it's considered a reasonable period.
My lawyer suggests a "reasonable time" is 90 days. Her will already details who the heirs are so I would divest myself of the property well within 90 days.
Slight qualifier needed here.
My wife and I jointly own both a condo in Manila and a large home on a double lot in her family province.
We also each have official wills which leave both properties to the surviving spouse.
In the event of her pre-deceasing me, I will be sole owner of the condo (foreigners can own condos in the PH).
The property in her province is slightly more complicated. The house and lot will become mine as per the will, but only for a "reasonable period".
Here is the advice:
A foreigner in the Philippines cannot own land, but can own a house built on a Filipino spouse's land. After the Filipino wife's death, the foreigner has a reasonable amount of time to dispose of the property and collect the proceeds, or it will be transferred to the Filipino heirs. The specific timeframe is not defined by law, but it's considered a reasonable period.Great info Red.
It was only a few years ago that I discovered condos were possible for a foreigner.
I still get emails and WhatsApp messages every second day from someone wanting to sell me one.
There is no divorce in the Philippines. Possibly she was married and divorced in a third country.Correct Aml,
A Pina can get divorced overseas and that divorce can then be registered in the Phils.
They can also get a marriage annulment. A contact in Sabang did this.
It's a long process and with restrictions, but with the right legal representation, a bit of luck, and a fair bit of cash to influence those in authority, it becomes more possible.
Remarriage is possible if there is a court order that declares the marriage as null and void.
Interestingly, a marriage in The Phils can be considered invalid for a number of reasons. One being, parties in which one killed their spouse or the other's spouse with the intention to marry.
It's always a case of 'buyer beware'.
It I feel for the bloke, but it looks like he didn't do his homework.
_ Phil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rvvN5No_Yk
This 87 yer old Yank-Brit is still bonking his way through the Philippines.
Keen Eye Joe 1
05-12-25, 01:11
Here's a short story in honor of today being election day in the Phils.
Last week in the late evening I visited my favorite Manila bar during my stopover from overseas. It's a small pub that caters to older foreign customers. As the younger "table girls" were occupied by a couple other guys, I was stuck sitting with one of the ancient gals who has worked there for years. She's always fun, interesting, seemingly normal, and a good conversationalist. As I'm a decent and friendly guy who loves to talk and willingly buys lady's drinks, I always have a great time gabbing there before moving on to greener pastures.
While sitting hand in hand, we started talking about the upcoming election. To be funny, I told her a way to lightheartedly flirt with customers in a suggestive manner. I placed her hand on my upper thigh, then slowly moved it to my crotch and had her rub my cock through my pants. I then I recommend she sexily say, "Wow, it's erection day already".
OMG, she almost fell out of the chair while laughing. After regaining her composure, she restarted rubbing my crotch and somewhat seriously said, "Joe, I want tonight to be an erection night". I immediately replied, "Sorry hon, I already voted", which caused her to laugh even harder.
By 11 pm she was drunk and I was ready to move on. After paying the bill, she walked hand in hand with me to the door, kissed me deeply for a couple of seconds, and sweetly asked if I would barfine her. I declined, as my personal rule is to gab with the older ones and play with the younger ones. Plus I was flying back to Mindanao the next morning and needed to retain a sense of composure.
Oh well, election day has arrived. It's a national holiday and the bars are closed. Me thinks I'll drive into Butuan City tomorrow night and check out the two naughty clubs, as I've been away for a few weeks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rvvN5No_Yk
This 87 yer old Yank-Brit is still bonking his way through the Philippines.Thanks Jarango,
What a great old man.
He offers some valuable knowledge.
_Phil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoapaQQlblI
One female Taiwanese scammer, 16 male Taiwanese scammers banged up in Cebyu. Talk about Jamaiacan scammers etc. Interesting and worth watching.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoapaQQlblI
One female Taiwanese scammer, 16 male Taiwanese scammers banged up in Cebyu. Talk about Jamaiacan scammers etc. Interesting and worth watching.Why would I really care about this or other negative crap. Of all the years scammer attempts on me are such a low percentage that why even bother dwelling on them. Why even lose a brain cell over this?
Like retail stores they know shoplifting is a matter of fact. Are they going to stop all of it? Heck no! They develop and factor in an acceptable loss level and continue on with business.
Mongers you are here for one purpose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lneBEwPIbtI
Paul in the Philippines does a great interview with this dude, who has really landed himself in the soup. This is a well paced interview everyone should watch, not only for Paul's quality but for the lack of due diligence of the guy he interviews. Although the family regarded him as a water buffalo, given their circumstances, that is understandable. The love was just transactional and that too is understandable in such a tough world. Ditto the extra children who have to be fed. Who is going to feed them is gritty reality, not Pretty Woman or Jungle Princess or whatever.
I know the guy can easily be written off as a loser. He went to the Philippines thinking he could buy paradie on the cheap but he got sold a pup. Very easy to understand and best not to replicate. We alll have his qualities to greater or leser degrees. If you read the coments, it seems he has serious medical issues too.
Paul is more phlegmatic, more a Steady Eddie guy, which many of us are not.
I find interviews like this much more on point than others. Paul adds value, just like our mothers telling us not to pick up candy from the gutter.
There are good, young Pinay women. I have one. But they have to think of their fuiture too and not be depending on assholes who cannot keep their trousers zipped for 10 seconds.
Why would I really care about this or other negative crap. Of all the years scammer attempts on me are such a low percentage that why even bother dwelling on them. Why even lose a brain cell over this? Like retail stores they know shoplifting is a matter of fact. Are they going to stop all of it? Heck no! They develop and factor in an acceptable loss level and continue on with business. Mongers you are here for one purpose.Maybe think of getting a job in tourist promotion. I know how to put my penis in holes. I have been doing it for a long time. I like to do due diligence and appreciate information that helps me not walk into cow turds.
I will be back to the Philippines in September. Paul in the Philippines https://www.youtube.com/@paulinthephilippinesolddog9234 is the type of guy I would like to meet as he can talk about something more than putting penises into holes, something I have been doing for over half a century and which I now beginning to get the hang of. There are other guys here talking about Smart Girl Philippines and good luck to them. Others are asking about hotel security and the like, and I find that more useful than people telling me the 101 of how to put a penis in a hole.
I will consider my trip a success if it is safe, if it stays more or less within budget and if I get bang for my buck.
Specifically on scammers, that is an issue everyone should pay attention to as part of due security diligence and also as part of the ageing process. Plenty of the scammers in the Philippines carry Korean passports and others I have met carry American passport. The Americans I met prey on foreigners.
As we are called tricks, clients and so on, we have ATM targets on our backs. I am partocularly interested in making the target on my back and those of others harder to hit, and I feel that is more important than learning how to put a penis in a hole which, for many of us, is teaching grand ma to suck eggs.
Old And Ugly
05-25-25, 09:36
1-7 Excellent advise.
8 Optional.
9-10 NoNo.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IPnLytqthgU
1-7 Excellent advise.
8 Optional.
9-10 NoNo.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IPnLytqthgUI've taken both of my ladies to Jollibee and Macdo, and they both prefer Macdo. And, honestly, I do, too. Just throwing that out there.
I miss that chicken here in the US, for sure!
I've taken both of my ladies to Jollibee and Macdo, and they both prefer Macdo. And, honestly, I do, too. Just throwing that out there.
I miss that chicken here in the US, for sure!McDo, Pizza Hut, KFC are all regarded as fine dining or at least a classy night out in the PI.
Recently I told a girl I was having lunch at Shakey's and she was envious that I was eating so well
G
KenjiYoshioka
05-31-25, 14:33
1-7 Excellent advise.
8 Optional.
9-10 NoNo.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IPnLytqthgUWhy not just skip to step 10?
Keen Eye Joe 1
06-01-25, 02:35
Part 1: Last year, I went on a few regular (kissing and petting but no intercourse) dates with a 35-year-old lady with two kids who works as an "online seller", peddling clothing and small household crap. She mentioned being strapped for cash to pay her electric bill. Instead of giving money, I mentioned I had a large, little-used industrial strength floor fan that she could try to sell. I estimated it had a street value of between 1,000 to 1,500 pesos and if she could sell it, she could keep all the proceeds and pay her bill.
On Wednesday morning, she notified me it sold for 1,500 pesos. No mention of any appreciation, as Filipinos tend to thank God instead of thanking benefactors.
On Thursday night, I checked her FB page. The previous night, she had taken 8 members of her extended family to Jollibee and posted the pics for the world to admire. Amazing how she went from being seemingly destitute on Sunday to being flush enough to host a fast-food party three days later.
I recently told my version of the events to a local gal. Her response was, "But Joe, her family DESERVES to have nice things".
Part 2: Two nights ago, I picked up a late-night streetwalker for 1,000 pesos. 24 years-old, no kids, attractive face with evidence of a growing fast-food belly. On the way to the short-time hotel, she points out her boarding house. OMG, it is an absolute dump and she is behind on the rent. Then she asks if we could stop for snacks because has not eaten all day. Ok, fine. Then after the deed is done, she asks for another 200 so she can pay part of the loan on the 500 peso dress she recently bought from an opportunistic seller. I'm a soft touch so I hand it over, as I had easily received at least 1,200 pesos of carnal value over a two-hour period.
She lives in a pig-sty and has no money for food. But she can justify taking out a loan at usurious rates to buy a dress she cannot afford and did not really need. Filipina logic for you.
The worst part is, in a moment of alcoholic and horny weakness, she got me to give up my phone number. OMG, would someone please make the incessant calls and texts stop! When will I finally learn to never hand out my digits?
Part 3: Last week I made an overnight trip to a town in a neighboring province. Upon walking into the small and nearly deserted little Gaisano department store, a lesbian-looking security guard said Hi and we started chatting. After a minute or two, she asked if I was "looking for chicks". Affirmatively, I asked how many girls she had. She pointed toward the two young and attractive cashiers wearing stockings and relatively short company-provided dresses. Fine with me.
Before I could ask about the price, she says, "You know, sir, they are both looking for sponsors".
"Sponsors?" I replied.
"Yes sir. You know. Sponsors".
Unfortunately, I do know. And so do you of all. And we all know how sponsorship is the ultimate bane to our game. Of course, I expect this in the big cities. But I was just a bit flummoxed and saddened that it has directly affected me in rural Mindanao. Oh well, at least I was able to spend a few years here back in "the good old days".
Old And Ugly
06-01-25, 02:52
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Part 3: Last week I made an overnight trip to a town in a neighboring province. Upon walking into the small and nearly deserted little Gaisano department store, a lesbian-looking security guard said Hi and we started chatting. After a minute or two, she asked if I was "looking for chicks". Affirmatively, I asked how many girls she had. She pointed toward the two young and attractive cashiers wearing stockings and relatively short company-provided dresses. Fine with me.
Before I could ask about the price, she says, "You know, sir, they are both looking for sponsors".
"Sponsors?" I replied.
"Yes sir. You know. Sponsors".
Unfortunately, I do know. And so do you of all. And we all know how sponsorship is the ultimate bane to our game. Of course, I expect this in the big cities. But I was just a bit flummoxed and saddened that it has directly affected me in rural Mindanao. Oh well, at least I was able to spend a few years here back in "the good old days".I would have sponsored both of them for 1 night in a 3 some. If they made up their mind to fuck for money, sponsorship or whatever, they will also do it for a single time payment also. And if the security girl was good looking I would have brought her along too, for a hands on lesbian demo.
I would have sponsored both of them for 1 night in a 3 some. If they made up their mind to fuck for money, sponsorship or whatever, they will also do it for a single time payment also. And if the security girl was good looking I would have brought her along too, for a hands on lesbian demo.Girls routinely run long term and short term sponsors in parallel.
Rumours are that some deviants on this board even enjoyed fucking girls why someone else is paying. 😁.
"Sshhh!! Pone call!! ".
Nope never heard those words before. 😉.
G.
Old And Ugly
06-01-25, 17:07
Sometimes I like to sip my drink and watch the Red St zoo, especially the bar fronts. Lots of husbands bring their wifes to work and kiss them goodbye before they go suck dick for money. Some of them live immediately, especially if on motorbike, some linger around the place for a while before leaving, some stay close by and watch the entrance for hours. How the heck those relationships work? Is there a documentary about it? I would like to watch.
Of course some of the girls enjoy sponsorship as well.
How the heck those relationships work?lIt's simple: bringing home piles of cash pays for a lot of plausible denial. They aren't sucking dick. They are all cashiers, waitresses or drinks only girls. 😉.
I wonder how that alters the power dynamics back home? Not bar girls but I've known a few Asian girls who significantly out earned hubby. All held it over the husband and he was pussy whipped like you would not believe.
Are the trike drivers the same? Do they basically take all the money and pimp them out to work or do the girls laud the cash over them?
G.
Sometimes I like to sip my drink and watch the Red St zoo, especially the bar fronts. Lots of husbands bring their wifes to work and kiss them goodbye before they go suck dick for money. Some of them live immediately, especially if on motorbike, some linger around the place for a while before leaving, some stay close by and watch the entrance for hours. How the heck those relationships work? Is there a documentary about it? I would like to watch.
Of course some of the girls enjoy sponsorship as well.Which explains why you sit on your perch and observe, and do not live amongst them, as I do. Their whole life is different from top to toe on what you and those like you can imagine. The local guy brings love, just as the Scotish wives of herring fishermen did. I mention those women as they were tougher than nails because they had to be. Do you know what a Nantucket sleigh ride is? How about the custom of the sea, which okd cannibalism, but not of one's nearest and dearest? Any idea how Long John Silver got his nick name? Hint: it had to do with slivers of nice, tasty hukan flesh. Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum.
Although the jungles of French Guiana, where the French Foreign legion train, are amongt the toughest in the world, there are tougher human jungles and they are products of it or largely shaped by it.
You cannot judge them by whatever Western metrics you mormally use. There are literally millions of good Pinoys but will find few of them in walking Street. I find trike drivers ok. They invited me to their 2024 Christmas party, strong booze and strong food for a delicate palate like mine. But their hard life, honest though it is, is totally alien to me. I am a cheetah, they are leopards and lions, like Dracula creatures of the night and of our dark imaginations and Gothic fantasies.
Mr Enternational
06-02-25, 11:48
I find trike drivers ok. But their hard life, honest though it is, is totally alien to me.Their life is hard compared to what? Their life is their life. It is what they know. Maybe you are saying it would be hard to you because it is alien to you. Maybe they see your life as being hard, having to wake up at zero dark thirty and go to some office with a suit on or whatever. You live among them, yet do not live like them, and were not raised as they were. One of the first things I learned in philosophy is that transcultural value judgments are invalid. Their lives are what they are and ours are what they are. It is kind of ridiculous to judge the hardness of it not having participated.
Their life is hard compared to what? One of the first things I learned in philosophy is that transcultural value judgments are invalid. Their lives are what they are and ours are what they are. It is kind of ridiculous to judge the hardness of it not having participated.
Which explains why you sit on your perch and observe, and do not live amongst them, as I do. Their whole life is different from top to toe on what you and those like you can imagine. The local guy brings love, just as the Scotish wives of herring fishermen did. Although the jungles of French Guiana, where the French Foreign legion train, are amongt the toughest in the world, there are tougher human jungles and they are products of it or largely shaped by it. But their hard life, honest though it is, is totally alien to me. I am a cheetah, they are leopards and lions, like Dracula creatures of the night and of our dark imaginations and Gothic fantasies.Wow, this is getting a little deep, so to speak.
Basically we're talking about a country with a great deal of poverty. And these girls and the trike mafia are just trying their best to get ahead in life.
We're their opportunity of making some hefty cash in one transaction as opposed to the normal.
I'm personally not going to pay anything close to prices at home after the travel expenses and hotels.
The Pina girls will never get the fact that my mortgage repayments or Western home rental prices and general costs of living are as relevant in my country as they are to their expenses.
Let's not over-think it.
I sleep with some hot women in The Phils, and some not-so-hot, but definitely ones who know how to do the deed, which is difficult to find at home.
However, I pay as close to a local Phils price as I can, (plus a tip and the offer of repeat business), and not a sex-tourist rate.
Simply taking the time to learn some Tagalog over time has helped dramatically. "Magkano?" "How much?
Once they know you have a handle on the local lingo, you'd be surprised how cautious they can be.
Just my experience and happy times to all _ Phil.
Old And Ugly
06-02-25, 19:22
Which explains why you sit on your perch and observe, and do not live amongst them, as I do. Their whole life is different from top to toe on what you and those like you can imagine. The local guy brings love, just as the Scotish wives of herring fishermen did. I mention those women as they were tougher than nails because they had to be. Do you know what a Nantucket sleigh ride is? How about the custom of the sea, which okd cannibalism, but not of one's nearest and dearest? Any idea how Long John Silver got his nick name? Hint: it had to do with slivers of nice, tasty hukan flesh. Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum.
Although the jungles of French Guiana, where the French Foreign legion train, are amongt the toughest in the world, there are tougher human jungles and they are products of it or largely shaped by it.
You cannot judge them by whatever Western metrics you mormally use. There are literally millions of good Pinoys but will find few of them in walking Street. I find trike drivers ok. They invited me to their 2024 Christmas party, strong booze and strong food for a delicate palate like mine. But their hard life, honest though it is, is totally alien to me. I am a cheetah, they are leopards and lions, like Dracula creatures of the night and of our dark imaginations and Gothic fantasies.No, I'm the last one that would judge someone, (I'm a freaking old pervert), I understand what are they doing, and why are they doing it, also I understand the need and the role of the husband or boyfriend, but I'm extremely curious about the details of the relationships, how the husband takes it, with ease, or pain, but no choice, are they talking about last night events, and how detailed, is she lying about or not, also what's going on in her mind when partying with strangers, etc. I can see some of that on the way the men react after dumping the wife at the bar, as I said: some leave right away, some stay around longer.
I do live most of the time among filipinos, on a small island with very few foreigners around, I talk to the neighbors, I drink with the fishermen that hang out in front of my house on the beach where they park their boats when they return from the nightly fishing trip, but there is nothing going on that even closely resembles AC, also I don't want them to know about my hobby, so we don't talk about P4 P. I used to live in AC, now is just a monthly trip to satisfy my addiction, sometimes for a few days sometimes for a few weeks.
I experienced the Amazon, Borneo, and the Central American jungles, but only as a passer by, the only one I lived in was the Cleveland post industrial one 35 years ago before I escaped.
I know what the "nantucket sleigh ride" is but not about the other ones you mentioned, I'll read about when I have time, sounds interesting, I'm fascinated by that kind of stuff, just our days with all the tiktoking going on is really easy to get distracted from acquiring real info and facts.
Wow, this is getting a little deep, so to speak.Deep or pretentious?? 🤣.
ID suggest that anyone who thinks they understand their new country's people is in fact in the middle of the journey of discovery: it's pretty much normal to think wtf is going on here upon first arrival; now I understand it after a few years; I'm never going to be fully accepted nor fully understand everything later on.
Enjoy the differences. G.
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I know what the "nantucket sleigh ride" is but not about the other ones you mentioned, I'll read about when I have time, sounds interesting, I'm fascinated by that kind of stuff, just our days with all the tiktoking going on is really easy to get distracted from acquiring real info and facts.Custom of the sea is how cannibalism should be performed between thosewho have been shipwrecked. Long John Silver probably cheated.
They think all of us are rich. I get a sick kick looking at those homeless Westerners and Pinoys still look after them, like they are a lottery ticket that still might come in.
Then there is managing expectations. They send some money home to the mother and, if they have a baby, back to mama s / he goes. I have a young lady now, getting ready to be an OFW in Korea to pay for her baby and papa who will stay at home looking after the baby. A hard, hard life of grinding poverty. Depressing but they have to grin and bear it.
Last time, I hung around during the day with a couple, both working at a call centre. I never saw one of them without the other. He had got suspended from work, for taking a day off to go to Manila airport to wave goodbye to his OFW boyfriend, whom I had never clapped eyes on. He said he'd appreciate it if I could fix him up with gay foreigners; he must have shaken down the OFW the way hookers shake down their departing tricks. The women ask me for boyfriends all the time. As if I would know someone decent, who wants a poor Pinay as a GF.
The hookers are a part of the furniture. They sit around with the "normies", talk of their hygiene tests and their boyfriends in Korea (LOL). Lots of grey areas between them but most of the women prefer to keep professional distance riom them.
The women in Walking St do not think like us, They have been fucked hundreds, if not thousands of times and have heard every line under the sun. Yet they still seek love, a form of love we cannot provide as we are tricks, there to be had. The local pimp speaks their language even if he might be a bit rough at times and, if he has good game, he will have several gfs, all of whom know each other. He is a shoulder to cry on and a soul to be saved.
For the vast majority who do not take the night life, life is hard. I find it best for my head (if not my dick) to be with such people.
Walking St is a tourist attraction, a fantasy with very dark undersides. There is a big expat eco system branching away from it in The diamond and similar p aces.
Trevor2522
07-16-25, 17:31
In the early 1990's, I recall a report of a Thai redneck, who had earned a windfall from selling land to developers, offering THB 10,000 to random ladies on the street for sex. That is equivalent to a secretary's monthly pay of THB 25,800 today. By contrast, Philippines is poorer, with 50% more females, so should be even more amenable to such tactics, but does their religion and culture stand in the way?
Today's secretarial equivalent in Manila earns PHP 18,500 -- so what results could a mature, but well-presented, Western guy expect for offering PHP 20 k? After a few minutes of introductory banter, I would expect takers to have a good attitude and be amenable to reasonable requests, from 6 pm quitting time, until the next morning. The irony is that, with time and patience, it could all be had almost for free, but I have low tolerance for female time-wasters. Facebook 'Walkers', and fun-oriented dating-site members, can be had for a mere PHP 5,000 . I guess it is all down to looks, convenience and rapid responses.
That 'Asian Sex Diary' guy -- who recently re-invented himself as 'JohnTronX' on his own site -- has used variations of this strategy since 2012, although his requests to film have borne less fruit lately. I am not interested in that aspect. Tron has sometimes enjoyed friend introductions, from his initial contacts, over the years. He does well in Thai malls; less so in Philippines, where he gravitates towards Angeles City bars and pays double the normal rate to include filming.
Is the Philippines too Westernised to make basic, cash-for-snatch approaches in public? Could it even be legally risky? Or would Thailand be a safer and more-productive prospect for cash-heavy foreigners?
Mr Enternational
07-16-25, 19:48
Is the Philippines too Westernised to make basic, cash-for-snatch approaches in public? Could it even be legally risky? Or would Thailand be a safer and more-productive prospect for cash-heavy foreigners?I do not understand this yearning to make normal chicks into hookers. Why not cut out the bullshit and go fuck someone who is a known hooker? It is like there are tons of taxis and Ubers around, yet you want to stop a random car and ask to pay them for a ride. Talk about going from A to Z to get to "b".
Old And Ugly
07-16-25, 20:12
...........so what results could a mature, but well-presented, Western guy expect for offering PHP 20 k? .......................................................Everything!
(just like in the full metal jacket movie: everything? Everything you want!)
Transporter
07-16-25, 20:50
That 'Asian Sex Diary' guy -- who recently re-invented himself as 'JohnTronX' on his own site -- has used variations of this strategy since 2012, although his requests to film have borne less fruit lately. I am not interested in that aspect. Tron has sometimes enjoyed friend introductions, from his initial contacts, over the years. He does well in Thai malls; less so in Philippines, where he gravitates towards Angeles City bars and pays double the normal rate to include filming.
Its quite a bit more than double at least in the one instance that I know of. He did a shoot with one of my regulars back then. I showed her the vid, and asked about it, and she said she got 30 K for the filming et all.
I do not understand this yearning to make normal chicks into hookers. Why not cut out the bullshit and go fuck someone who is a known hooker? Or just ask her out to dinner and a few drinks afterwards. That would probably have more success than blurting out "fuck me for 20 k?'
G.
Is the Philippines too Westernised to make basic, cash-for-snatch approaches in public? Could it even be legally risky?Give it a go at some of the bigger malls and report back. Maybe even video the interaction. Fuck around and find out has been pretty popular recently.
Enjoy. G.
Give it a go at some of the bigger malls and report back. Maybe even video the interaction. Fuck around and find out has been pretty popular recently.
Enjoy. G.We previously exchanged similar messages like about that black guy who would go into ordinary shops and malls, videoing all the women and saying they were hookers,. No doubt he said the same thing at the hiospital or at the morgue after he found ouit.
The fact is a lot of these mongers have no game, no interest, no nothing. They think because they have a few dolars in their pocket, they are Casanova reborn. Also, hanging around with bototm end hookers (99.999% of all Pinay hookers) makes them lose wahtevber game they might once have had. I mix with non hookers, mostly poor, and the mind set is totally different, not least amongst those open for hook ups.
Trevor2522
07-17-25, 18:10
Just like in the Full Metal Jacket movie (1987): "Everything? Everything you want!""How much?" "Five dollar" (1968), which would be $47 in 2025 (PHP 2,700). A little optimistic today for "I love you long time."
I do not understand this yearning to make normal chicks into hookers. Why not cut out the bullshit and go fuck someone who is a known hooker?Why not cut out the diseased, uneducated lower-classes and make love to someone with a real job? For money-rich / time-poor guys, one can seal the deal in 5 minutes -- rather than enduring hours/days of uncertainty AND leading her on to believe a LTR is on offer.
Give it a go at some of the bigger malls and report back. Maybe even video the interaction. Fuck around and find out has been pretty popular recently.Enjoy. G.
Is the Philippines too Westernised to make basic, cash-for-snatch approaches in public? Could it even be legally risky? Or would Thailand be a safer and more-productive prospect for cash-heavy foreigners?Unsure about Thailand as The Phils is enough fun for me. Didn't even have to try today. Got approached by two outside Robinsons huge mall in Malate today. One, a definite no, the other, maybe in a short time joint she mentioned across the road. Gave them both the flick because I was going back to my room to catch up with yesterday's PL find.
As for illegal and risky, an old boss once said to me when I was 18, "If you're questioning if you're doing something wrong or illegal, you probably are. ".
Put it this way, cash for snatch approaches in The Phils could be risky in certain environments, but let us know how you go.
_Phil.
Mr Enternational
07-18-25, 18:00
Why not cut out the diseased, uneducated lower-classes and make love to someone with a real job? For money-rich / time-poor guys, one can seal the deal in 5 minutes -- rather than enduring hours/days of uncertainty AND leading her on to believe a LTR is on offer.I do. They are called girlfriends. And there is no need to pay them as I do prostitutes.
Trevor2522
07-19-25, 18:50
Got approached by two outside Robinsons huge mall in Malate today. One, a definite no, the other, maybe in a short time joint she mentioned across the road. Gave them both the flick because I was going back to my room to catch up with yesterday's PL find.Interesting. I went there late one afternoon a few months back (thin pickings at nearby LA Cafe/Midnight Haven), after seeing FLs on a YT video sitting on the outside steps. Circuited the massive 'Robinson Place' mall but didn't see a sausage, let alone any approaching me. Thought security must have chased them away.
Filipina Pea reports on a foreigner being remanded in jail for 3 years, and extorted for $70k to withdraw charges (which he declined or couldn't afford) -- over a domestic argument / 'verbal abuse'. Strengthens my stance to keep things short, sweet and well-compensated. Certainly wouldn't move in any jungle bunnies from mean-minded families.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALPnT3mYW_c
Interesting. I went there late one afternoon a few months back (thin pickings at nearby LA Cafe/Midnight Haven), after seeing FLs on a YT video sitting on the outside steps. Circuited the massive 'Robinson Place' mall but didn't see a sausage, let alone any approaching me. Thought security must have chased them away.Don't worry Trev.
Security were definitely on to them.
About an hour later, I was in the Robinson's supermarket and ran into one of them.
Had to brush her off again. Fairly ugly thing, but as mentioned, had the talent back at home in my room.
_Phil.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IqBypvEq5MM
This is a revealing video of an ape with no game randomly asking women in a gym to do 3 somes. Some choice comments but the main one for this is running his mouth off. Asking Pinay women for sexual favours brings the type of risks this guy ran and that that black dude sticking a camera into women's faces in Angeles did. Discretion is always best.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IqBypvEq5MM
This is a revealing video of an ape with no game randomly asking women in a gym to do 3 somes. Some choice comments but the main one for this is running his mouth off. Asking Pinay women for sexual favours brings the type of risks this guy ran and that that black dude sticking a camera into women's faces in Angeles did. Discretion is always best.Did you attach the right Short? All I see is something about Jewish hairdresser.
Did you attach the right Short? All I see is something about Jewish hairdresser.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0zJ8_szuoA&t=618s
Sorry, this is the right video. Guy must be dropping too many pills or something. Good manners not only cost nothing but they are an insurance policy against crap like that. In Angeles etc, there is a big gap between "honest" women and hookers and many of the former take umbrage at being linked in with the latter. Though the guy in the vidoe may well have psycho issues, it is not the way to roll.
Old And Ugly
08-26-25, 07:50
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IqBypvEq5MM
This is a revealing video of an ape with no game randomly asking women in a gym to do 3 somes. Some choice comments but the main one for this is running his mouth off. Asking Pinay women for sexual favours brings the type of risks this guy ran and that that black dude sticking a camera into women's faces in Angeles did. Discretion is always best.Yes it links to a hair salon clip. I'm interested about the 3 some thing.
Yes it links to a hair salon clip. I'm interested about the 3 some thing.++see end for link and clarification.
I will be in Angeles for an extended stay in a little over a fortnight's time. As I will not have a laptop with me, I will report only on my return. I have my flights, taxis and hotel all booked. As I am now in my 70's (but fit and increasingly lazy), my priorities are not the same as everyone else's; an online hooker told me I am too old and I should retire from bonking. Easier said than done.
Though I might do some small trips in Luzon, they will be strictly for mongering if the urge remains. One of the main attractions for me is to get the run of the mill medical stuff out of the way and I am happy with the system I have in place there and I like their system, at least for now. As I am an old car, a Ford Thunderbird with a lot of mileage and not much maintenance, medical bills are an increasingly important component of my expenses, down time in Angeles is a good time to get checked and the heart is among my pieces blowing a gasket. No more world heavyweight title shots for me.
1. I have registered on egovPh to get my evisa but that site seems a mess and there should be an easier way to get it. I thought you could only get it 48 hours in advance, which would be an internet problem for me as I will be travelling. Can someone clarify?
2. Cialis etc: As my dick is weak as FK, I am thinking of taking small doses of cialis (with no alcohol). However, I don't want heart or other problems. What is the risk here? Though I wlil be seeing a female medic, I don't want to ask her for a prescription.
3. I like to eat cheaply around Red St where the locals eat but but they just let the food sit out, picking up all the bugs going. Last time, dining outside with a lady, I watched a rat climb into a bakery. Killed my appetite. They have a much too casual attitude to all of that for delicate me.
4. The hotel staff and the lady nearby who slept with me on several occasions know me well. I think that romance is finished. I fancy one of the staff for a fling (she is open to it but I never put people's jobs at risk by shtting (or fking) on their doorstep. As I have become friendly with them as a normal bloke (unlike the randy Koreans who do some heavy duty bonking), I don't want to run orgies under their noses.
5. The hotel is secure but there have been instances, one of which I half witnessed when a ladyboy drugged a dude in the room opposite me, and then offered to do the same for me (I was unsure of the sex and inadvertently facilitated his / her / its escape, a subject I return to below). There are also Korean scammers floating about. As I rely mainly on cash, that is a further security issue.
6. Is it worthwhile prowling Red St in the dead of night, between 2. 30-5 am, or is it not worth the risk?
7. Where do the local punters go for a bonk?
8. There are a lot of weather beaten hos knocking about, ex go go girls who have seen better days. The problem with many like that is they are barnacles hard to shake off and they need to sleep A LOT. I have been down that road and the cheap bonk is not worth the hassle.
9. Is Perimeter Road still an aftenoon thing? Not so much interested in drinking as getting an afternoon delight.
10. Has anybody come across foreign scammers, last chance saloon characters trying to fool other foreigners, who offer a bigger payday than locals?
Let me give some context to the above. I recently fell for a telephone bank scam and would have been hit hard, only my bank, not me, saved me. This happened even though I had watched tonnes of videos and had warned and saved others. The fault is entirely mine.
That said, as this is a scam which depends on getting your trust, the key is not to give that trust in the first place. To that end, I have considerably tightend my own non foolproof system further.
I recently posted a video from a hair salon, instead of one about this psycho asking random women for 3 somes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0zJ8_szuoA&t=654s . This mistake was made by me dealing with too many vidoes on line for varying reasons.
Here is an American one about a granny killer, who has knocked up at least two hits to fuel her gamblng addiction. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPM-NvCdHwY Look how friendly she is to her second victim. Most folk would not have seen her for what she is. On a former visit to Angeles, I met a Yank, whose game was scamming people and I also met a guy he had set up for a fall.
One thing about the granny killer and other female video stars I have looked at is they are all so sacrily plausible at lying, and then you have the nutters like this married woman who touches up her daugher's friends doing sleep overs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6wmupB5a3Q.
I have had too much excitement in my life and I need to cut down on all that. Hot spots bring out all the nutters, mad dogs and Englishmen etc, and I prefer to walk away from all that in my remaining time.
That includes nutters in gyms asking random women for 3 somes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0zJ8_szuoA&t=654s One further point with that is we often see female influencers acting the maggot in gyms. They are not alone and males are equally trouble.
Though the best way to avouid trouble is to stay at home with the doors locked and outside access switched off, a safe and happy journey to the Philippines need is to be dotted and ts to be crossed and so this list of questions.
WestCoast1
08-26-25, 14:05
1. I have registered on egovPh to get my evisa but that site seems a mess and there should be an easier way to get it. I thought you could only get it 48 hours in advance, which would be an internet problem for me as I will be travelling. Can someone clarify?
I believe its 72 hours, and begins 72 hours prior to the outbound international flight from your country. For instance, if you were departing from San Francisco (say at 1 am) -- Hong Kong -- Manila, you would start your eGov shenanigans 72 hours (3 days) prior to that 1 am scheduled departure. If you were flying domestically first, say from Chicago. SF (departing 1 am) -- Hong Kong -- Manila, you would eGov starting 3 days prior to the SF 1 am time (same as the first example).
Someone correct that if its wrong.
1. I have registered on egovPh to get my evisa but that site seems a mess and there should be an easier way to get it. I thought you could only get it 48 hours in advance, which would be an internet problem for me as I will be travelling. Can someone clarify?
I believe its 72 hours, and begins 72 hours prior to the outbound international flight from your country. For instance, if you were departing from San Francisco (say at 1 am) -- Hong Kong -- Manila, you would start your eGov shenanigans 72 hours (3 days) prior to that 1 am scheduled departure. If you were flying domestically first, say from Chicago. SF (departing 1 am) -- Hong Kong -- Manila, you would eGov starting 3 days prior to the SF 1 am time (same as the first example).
Someone correct that if its wrong.He might be on the wrong website. Etravel works pretty good now.
1. I have registered on egovPh to get my evisa but that site seems a mess and there should be an easier way to get it. I thought you could only get it 48 hours in advance, which would be an internet problem for me as I will be travelling. Can someone clarify?
I believe its 72 hours, and begins 72 hours prior to the outbound international flight from your country. For instance, if you were departing from San Francisco (say at 1 am) -- Hong Kong -- Manila, you would start your eGov shenanigans 72 hours (3 days) prior to that 1 am scheduled departure. If you were flying domestically first, say from Chicago. SF (departing 1 am) -- Hong Kong -- Manila, you would eGov starting 3 days prior to the SF 1 am time (same as the first example).
Someone correct that if its wrong.I am pretty sure it is based on 72 hours from your arrival in the country. The window to use the site is only available for that time period, but I am not sure. You can always try to do that and see what happens. If its not allowed, it should disallow it.
++see end for link and clarification.
I will be in Angeles for an extended stay in a little over a fortnight's time.
1. I have registered on egovPh to get my evisa but that site seems a mess and there should be an easier way to get it. I thought you could only get it 48 hours in advance, which would be an internet problem for me as I will be travelling. Can someone clarify?
2. Cialis etc: As my dick is weak as FK, I am thinking of taking small doses of cialis (with no alcohol). However, I don't want heart or other problems. What is the risk here? Though I wlil be seeing a female medic, I don't want to ask her for a prescription.Hi Jarango,
I've never had problems with the evisa thing. Keep in mind, you can still apply online before you go through customs. Just make sure your home phone has at least a little bit of global roaming on it, or similar, so it works when you land.
Phils customs are really relaxed compared to other countries. Just act dumb and ask them for assistance.
As for vitamin see or V _ I carry my own. I have a female doctor in Australia who is fantastic. She knows what I'm up to, and has always advised against buying the local stuff in The Phils. A lot of it's from India apparently and you don't know what you're getting if you're buying it off the street.
I had a bit of a heart scare a few years ago, but nothing too serious. Thankfully, she manages my meds and tells me not what to take when I'm popping vitamin v.
I'm in my fifties and could probably do without a bit of medication to help, but hell, it does the trick.
Trust your female medic. There's no shame in it, and she probably will be a lot more understanding than a male doctor.
Just my experience _ Phil.
WestCoast1
08-26-25, 16:34
He might be on the wrong website. Etravel works pretty good now.Have used it twice in the past year, and it went smoothly both times. One of its continuing stumbling points is that it makes you tell where you are staying after you land in Phils. There is a drop-down list of provinces and cities. Oddly the last several times I noticed that Malate was not in the list anywhere. I found it easy to select 'Makati', then type 'Bel-Air Soho', or any hotel in Makati, and that worked. Website:
https://etravel.gov.ph/
Mr Enternational
08-27-25, 03:44
Have used it twice in the past year, and it went smoothly both times. One of its continuing stumbling points is that it makes you tell where you are staying after you land in Phils. There is a drop-down list of provinces and cities. Oddly the last several times I noticed that Malate was not in the list anywhere. I found it easy to select 'Makati', then type 'Bel-Air Soho', or any hotel in Makati, and that worked. Website:
https://etravel.gov.ph/After I put the place that I stay in Angeles, it has always been saved in the system, so it auto pops in the box when I am filling out the form again.
Alexandra2525
08-29-25, 17:58
As my first trip to Ph draws close (can't wait!) I've been having a little browse on PL. I haven't subscribed to premium yet or messaged anyone, I'll do that a few days before my arrival.
As I've flicked through the profiles I've surprised myself that rather than being drawn to the more glamorous looking City girls I'm actually more attracted to the simple looking girls. I don't mean to be insulting but I assume that these are probably poorer girls. They are still very pretty with nice slim figures but they aren't dressed up in expensive clothes, clutching expensive handbags or have pics of them in foreign countries.
Some of their profile pics even show where they live in the background and you can tell it's very humble indeed.
I'd really like to target these girls, something about the simplicity of these girls really gets me going (the perceived simplicity to my eyes anyway).
These girls will no doubt be cheaper than the glam ones and definitely cheaper than the gogo girls from Burgos; but I'm not trying to save money. I'm only there for a week or so and am happy to splash some cash but I'd much rather give my cash to someone who will appreciate it more. And hopefully show their appreciation in the bedroom.
I'd also get a buzz out of letting some of these girls experience material things that they may never had done before.
My question is this really; as a one week warrior from the West what are the downsides to this plan? As they will probably be poorer does that mean they might be more likely to try and scam me? Or would they actually appreciate that a very generous and kind guy has chosen them over the 'higher end' girls that he could have had?
The other downside I can see is probably lack of conversation about anything interesting as their world will be very small compared to most westerners (no insult meant to the Filipino people). But on the other hand I just want a slim young chick to suck and fuck me into oblivion. If we have nothing much to talk about she can just play on her phone over dinner etc!
Anyway, any thoughts appreciated on my unnecessarily long rambling post.
(BTW, I hope I have understood the concept of provincial correctly. She would still need to be within reasonable travelling distance of my base in Makati).
Thanks all and have a nice weekend.
My question is this really; as a one week warrior from the West what are the downsides to this plan? As they will probably be poorer does that mean they might be more likely to try and scam me? Or would they actually appreciate that a very generous and kind guy has chosen them over the 'higher end' girls that he could have had?
The other downside I can see is probably lack of conversation about anything interesting as their world will be very small compared to most westerners (no insult meant to the Filipino people). But on the other hand I just want a slim young chick to suck and fuck me into oblivion. If we have nothing much to talk about she can just play on her phone over dinner etc!
Anyway, any thoughts appreciated on my unnecessarily long rambling post.
(BTW, I hope I have understood the concept of provincial correctly. She would still need to be within reasonable travelling distance of my base in Makati).
Thanks all and have a nice weekend.Many of us prefer provincial girls for a number of different reasons. You can search my, PhilJoy and Old and Ugly's posts for examples.
You're not clear if you are looking for provincial girls outside of the major cities or poor girls who live in the less affluent areas or Manila, Cebu etc. They are very different.
There are many, many positives to meeting these girls. However, you have asked for the downside so these are some:
Girls travelling across Manila to get to you in Makati can easily be several hours in a jeepney or even dedicated taxi. It's a huge city and the traffic is absolute chaos. Coming in from nearby regional areas like Batangas is likely to be an all day affair.
If you are considering going to regional towns realise that no shows and flakes are common even if you have made a major effort just to get there to meet her. The towns are also not point and shoot. It takes time to meet the girls and have them come back to your room. Girls who are working may only have one day off a week and be busy or unavailable every other day. Strict families are common even if she is late 20's / early 30's. Many girls will be very reserved to be seen by friends and family meeting a white guy. The upside is that many won't meet at a mall or coffee shop but will come straight to your room to avoid being spotted.
Scams can happen anywhere and a fool and his money are soon parted. However, it's no more likely away from the big cities. If anything the more sophisticated girls know all the tricks and could be more of a concern. The one big scam in the provinces is prepaid travel to come and meet you then disappearing. Never send money to a girl you have never met.
All girls appreciate a generous guy. Nightly rates and 'taxi money' drops considerably the further out of town you go or the simpler the girl eg 8 k on P Burgos, 4 k for a Makati online girl, 2 k for a girl in the provinces.
In Makati you will be fine but a risk of smaller centres is running out of choices if you are seeking fun with multiple girls. You can literally fuck all the available options or she can stake her claim and be near impossible to get away from to meet others.
Yes, the simpler the girl, the less her english skills and general conversation.
None of the above are onerous or hard to overcome. Many of would say that the good definitely out weighs the bad and therefore we prefer to get out of town. If you 'just want a slim young chick to suck and fuck me into oblivion' then you have come to the right place.
Beware the biggest risk of finding a provincial princess: falling in love. 🤪.
Enjoy. G.
Transporter
08-29-25, 19:49
My question is this really; as a one week warrior from the West what are the downsides to this plan?The other downside I can see is probably lack of conversation about anything interesting as their world will be very small compared to most westerners (no insult meant to the Filipino people). But on the other hand I just want a slim young chick to suck and fuck me into oblivion. If we have nothing much to talk about she can just play on her phone over dinner etc!Anyway, any thoughts appreciated on my unnecessarily long rambling post.
Usually comes down to time, and not money. You got a week and arranging and executing things in PI takes way longer than you would expect, and then some. There will also be some communication issues, along with cultural differences that you will need to adapt to real fast. If you are going for porn star bliss, then that's also going to take time from the shy provi girl. However if this whole adventure is how you want to spend your one week, then go for it just have secondary and tertiary plans in motion (not as a back up but actually rolling in real time).
Alexandra2525
08-30-25, 08:19
Many of us prefer provincial girls for a number of different reasons. You can search my, PhilJoy and Old and Ugly's posts for examples.
You're not clear if you are looking for provincial girls outside of the major cities or poor girls who live in the less affluent areas or Manila, Cebu etc. They are very different.
There are many, many positives to meeting these girls. However, you have asked for the downside so these are some:
Girls travelling across Manila to get to you in Makati can easily be several hours in a jeepney or even dedicated taxi. It's a huge city and the traffic is absolute chaos. Coming in from nearby regional areas like Batangas is likely to be an all day affair.
If you are considering going to regional towns realise that no shows and flakes are common even if you have made a major effort just to get there to meet her. The towns are also not point and shoot. It takes time to meet the girls and have them come back to your room. Girls who are working may only have one day off a week and be busy or unavailable every other day. Strict families are common even if she is late 20's / early 30's. Many girls will be very reserved to be seen by friends and family meeting a white guy. The upside is that many won't meet at a mall or coffee shop but will come straight to your room to avoid being spotted.
Scams can happen anywhere and a fool and his money are soon parted. However, it's no more likely away from the big cities. If anything the more sophisticated girls know all the tricks and could be more of a concern. The one big scam in the provinces is prepaid travel to come and meet you then disappearing. Never send money to a girl you have never met.
All girls appreciate a generous guy. Nightly rates and 'taxi money' drops considerably the further out of town you go or the simpler the girl eg 8 k on P Burgos, 4 k for a Makati online girl, 2 k for a girl in the provinces.
In Makati you will be fine but a risk of smaller centres is running out of choices if you are seeking fun with multiple girls. You can literally fuck all the available options or she can stake her claim and be near impossible to get away from to meet others.
Yes, the simpler the girl, the less her english skills and general conversation.
None of the above are onerous or hard to overcome. Many of would say that the good definitely out weighs the bad and therefore we prefer to get out of town. If you 'just want a slim young chick to suck and fuck me into oblivion' then you have come to the right place.
Beware the biggest risk of finding a provincial princess: falling in love. 🤪.
Enjoy. G.Thank you.
I wasn't clear on poorer parts of Manila vs Outside of big Cities because to be honest I wasn't sure of the geography. I'll only be on the ground for 10 days (think I said a week before) so travelling to these smaller towns wouldn't make sense, especially as I'm also a first time visitor. I'll leave that to seasoned pros like you, WC and OAU.
I suppose what I'm looking for is as provincial (in mindset) as you can get but still within 2 hours travel time of my base in Makati. She'll be coming to me of course, not vice versa.
I subscribed to seeking for a month where I ended up chatting to a load of girls some of whom had very good jobs including teachers, doctors etc. Really nice to chat to as they have opinions etc but then I realised these women are very much like the ones I meet in my everyday life back at home. And have decided for sexual excitement I want the complete opposite LOL.
I want a young, submissive girl who hasn't already experienced the bright lights and fancy places of the City.
My plan is not to make contact on the ground with the seeking girls or bother with gogos (maybe gogos once just for a drink) but to focus on PL. And on PL try and find the girls that look like they're 'unpolished'. It helps that I actually prefer dark skin, the darker the better, and I'm also fine with a hirsute vag LOL.
On PL it'll just be a gut feeling from the way the profile is worded and backgrounds that are captured in photos.
I appreciate your reply, thanks.
Alexandra2525
08-30-25, 08:22
Usually comes down to time, and not money. You got a week and arranging and executing things in PI takes way longer than you would expect, and then some. There will also be some communication issues, along with cultural differences that you will need to adapt to real fast. If you are going for porn star bliss, then that's also going to take time from the shy provi girl. However if this whole adventure is how you want to spend your one week, then go for it just have secondary and tertiary plans in motion (not as a back up but actually rolling in real time).Thank you.
A friend has given me some numbers of some seasoned pros so if all else fails I won't have blue balls. But I would prefer to at least try and hunt for my food rather than have a ready meal.
WestCoast1
08-30-25, 10:09
Thank you.
A friend has given me some numbers of some seasoned pros so if all else fails I won't have blue balls. But I would prefer to at least try and hunt for my food rather than have a ready meal.You might want to head back to Page 9 of the Other Areas thread and find this post from Goferring (April 20,2025, post #3527):
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1012-Other-Areas&p=2998262&viewfull=1#post2998262
Its the start of Goferring's lengthy set of posts earlier this year regarding his several-months trip thru the north and eastern Mindanao provinces. Starting on that post, head forward in time to Page 8, 7, 6, etc and read a bunch of them. This is right up your alley.
Evisa: I have gone through the site and glad I did so in advance as, to me at least, it is easy to miss the place where to click to get your QR code visa. Travel gets more frustrating by the day.
Outback sluice gates: Looking for cheap bonks means you are looking for poor women, most of whom are not into bonking random strangers either for money or for free. What you will find, if you get introductions, is pockets who have Korean / Japanese etc boyfriends / husbands, as well as locals who ponce of the remittances their sweethearts send them. These women will tend to hang about together in clusters. There are many, perhaps most, poor women who want nothing to do with you, all the more so if they know yourill motives. That said, life in the big city for provincial women is hard and even bed spaces make them have to stretch their meagre budgets and considering returning to mommy who lives in isolated scrubland. Not as much a diamond in the roufg as fool's gold in nowheresville.
I want a young, submissive girl who hasn't already experienced the bright lights and fancy places of the City.
My plan is not to make contact on the ground with the seeking girls or bother with gogos (maybe gogos once just for a drink) but to focus on PL. And on PL try and find the girls that look like they're 'unpolished'. It helps that I actually prefer dark skin, the darker the better, and I'm also fine with a hirsute vag LOL.
On PL it'll just be a gut feeling from the way the profile is worded and backgrounds that are captured in photos.
I appreciate your reply, thanks.Your plan sounds pretty good to me. With only ten days and being a first time visitor, you don't have time to head off to Mindanao or Lyete and find what you want. Makati and its surroundings has literally thousands of girls who will drop around. PL is an excellent source. You can limit your search to the age range and location you want. Just be sure to pay the $25 to lift the messaging restrictions.
Don't forget that pinas are amazingly approachable. Especially if you go to the mid or even lower range malls. Don't exclude bumping into a girl, inviting her for a coffee and see where things go.
Another option is to read PhilJoy's excellent posts on finding taxi drivers, door men etc who have young and attractive friends.
P Burgos can be good for 'just one drink'. Surprisingly it's also got the cheapest freelancers in Manila.
Numerous girls are offering to drop around online but I decide against it. It's been years since I've had a good look at Burgos so I'm off. No intention to barfines or run amok. Just a couple of beers....Enjoy. G.
Alexandra2525
08-30-25, 12:32
You might want to head back to Page 9 of the Other Areas thread and find this post from Goferring (April 20,2025, post #3527):
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1012-Other-Areas&p=2998262&viewfull=1#post2998262
Its the start of Goferring's lengthy set of posts earlier this year regarding his several-months trip thru the north and eastern Mindanao provinces. Starting on that post, head forward in time to Page 8, 7, 6, etc and read a bunch of them. This is right up your alley.I did read some of those back when they were posted. It sounds brilliant but with only 10 days and being my first visit I don't think it would really work.
If I can ever get back out to Ph for a second visit and for at least 3 weeks I would love to give it a go.
Alexandra2525
08-30-25, 12:48
Your plan sounds pretty good to me. With only ten days and being a first time visitor, you don't have time to head off to Mindanao or Lyete and find what you want. Makati and its surroundings has literally thousands of girls who will drop around. PL is an excellent source. You can limit your search to the age range and location you want. Just be sure to pay the $25 to lift the messaging restrictions.
Don't forget that pinas are amazingly approachable. Especially if you go to the mid or even lower range malls. Don't exclude bumping into a girl, inviting her for a coffee and see where things go.
Another option is to read PhilJoy's excellent posts on finding taxi drivers, door men etc who have young and attractive friends.
P Burgos can be good for 'just one drink'. Surprisingly it's also got the cheapest freelancers in Manila.
Enjoy. G.Thanks.
Geographically speaking, are there actually what you would call provincial girls within 2 hours of Makati? Or am I looking at what would be termed the poorer areas just outside central Manila?
Any particular areas / towns that you would recommend that would fit my bill for the kind of girl that I'm looking for? That might help me fine tune my PL search.
As for approaching young girls in the mall, that would require me to really change my mindset. I'm mid 50's and in my home country it would never cross my mind to seriously flirt with a pretty girl 18 to 25.
But hey, when in Ph I might find my game again LOL.
Thanks.
Geographically speaking, are there actually what you would call provincial girls within 2 hours of Makati? Or am I looking at what would be termed the poorer areas just outside central Manila?
Any particular areas / towns that you would recommend that would fit my bill for the kind of girl that I'm looking for? That might help me fine tune my PL search.The best results I've had Alex have been the Cavite girls. It is the most densely populated province in the Philippines, located near Metro Manila.
Not sure if I'd travel there, but it's not too far for them to get to you.
As G said, pay the extra on PL and your phone will be pinging with messages anyway once they see your location is Manila.
The ones who want to chat off-app, and then via WhatsApp, are the ones most likely to be FL's.
_ Phil.
Alexandra2525
08-30-25, 16:18
The best results I've had Alex have been the Cavite girls. It is the most densely populated province in the Philippines, located near Metro Manila.
Not sure if I'd travel there, but it's not too far for them to get to you.
As G said, pay the extra on PL and your phone will be pinging with messages anyway once they see your location is Manila.
The ones who want to chat off-app, and then via WhatsApp, are the ones most likely to be FL's.
_ Phil.Thanks Phil, I'll keep an eye out for Cavite on the profiles. I'll definitely pay for premium about a week before I arrive, it's still a bargain compared to the ridiculous amount I paid for seeking. I suppose it did make me realise that what I thought I wanted is not what I actually desire deep down, so money not completely wasted.
Funnily enough I have seen some of the same profiles on PL as on seeking, so there is definitely over lap. And if I were a betting man I'd say the same girl will quote more via seeking than PL.
Thanks again for the advice.
Hopefully I will find that dark skinned simple diamond in the rough to fulfill my fantasies.
You guys are so bloody lucky to live (or spend a lot of time) in a place like Ph!.
Have a great weekend.
Transporter
08-30-25, 18:14
More than likely the girls online will be from caloocan, qc,cubao -ish areas in the north and if you would like to meet then it is easier done if you are near the red areas on the map.
If coming from the south cavite, alabang, las pinas, santa rosa, etc then it is easier for them to meet you if you are near buendia.
Alexandra2525
08-30-25, 21:57
More than likely the girls online will be from caloocan, qc,cubao -ish areas in the north and if you would like to meet then it is easier done if you are near the red areas on the map.
If coming from the south cavite, alabang, las pinas, santa rosa, etc then it is easier for them to meet you if you are near buendia.That's very helpful indeed, thank you.
My location ie Makati is fixed, I won't bore you with the reasons.
Thanks.
Geographically speaking, are there actually what you would call provincial girls within 2 hours of Makati? Or am I looking at what would be termed the poorer areas just outside central Manila?
Any particular areas / towns that you would recommend that would fit my bill for the kind of girl that I'm looking for? That might help me fine tune my PL search.
As for approaching young girls in the mall, that would require me to really change my mindset. I'm mid 50's and in my home country it would never cross my mind to seriously flirt with a pretty girl 18 to 25.
But hey, when in Ph I might find my game again LOL.A 2 HR radius of Makati is still Manila. My recommendation is to stay there and have the girls come to you. Don't go moving to various areas to be closer to girls. You would be endlessly moving and girls may or may not show regardless of how much effort you made to meet them. They will readily travel to you without any convincing.
Yes, the Philippines does require a different mindset. Just smile and be polite and you will be surprised what can eventuate. Some will come straight to your room. Some will meet for a coffee first. Some will want to bring a security blanket friend. Just play along. It's all part of the game. The only thing not to to is to send money before meeting. It doesn't matter the excuse, it's never a good idea.
Enjoy. G.
Alexandra2525
08-31-25, 12:08
A 2 HR radius of Makati is still Manila. My recommendation is to stay there and have the girls come to you. Don't go moving to various areas to be closer to girls. You would be endlessly moving and girls may or may not show regardless of how much effort you made to meet them. They will readily travel to you without any convincing.
Yes, the Philippines does require a different mindset. Just smile and be polite and you will be surprised what can eventuate. Some will come straight to your room. Some will meet for a coffee first. Some will want to bring a security blanket friend. Just play along. It's all part of the game. The only thing not to to is to send money before meeting. It doesn't matter the excuse, it's never a good idea.
Enjoy. G.I definitely won't be travelling to different areas, my entire stay is already booked in Makati. The only time I will leave Manila is if I decide to check out for a few days and head to a beach destination.
The reason I was asking about specific areas was so that when I look at PL profiles I can target girls from those areas.
But if that's a nonworkable idea I can just get clues from the profile itself ie how they are dressed, scenery in the background of their pics etc, hopefully shouldn't be too difficult.
I do have one more question if I may? In the past (in other countries) I have targeted slightly older women ie minimum age 25, usually they are 25 to about 30. Them being potentially under age has therefore never been a concern.
This time I want to try younger ie 18 to 22 but am worried about someone being under the age of consent and lying about their age.
Which form of ID should I be asking for and how easily is it faked?
Thanks.
WestCoast1
08-31-25, 13:52
Hopefully I will find that dark skinned simple diamond in the rough to fulfill my fantasies. You guys are so bloody lucky to live (or spend a lot of time) in a place like Ph!.
What's he on about? Fantasies? Dream it, achieve it. Get in there, and write us some solid field reports later (the good, bad, ugly).
Alexandra2525
08-31-25, 16:17
What's he on about? Fantasies? Dream it, achieve it. Get in there, and write us some solid field reports later (the good, bad, ugly).That's exactly what I'm intending to do!
But if that's a nonworkable idea I can just get clues from the profile itself ie how they are dressed, scenery in the background of their pics etc, hopefully shouldn't be too difficult.
I do have one more question if I may? In the past (in other countries) I have targeted slightly older women ie minimum age 25, usually they are 25 to about 30. Them being potentially under age has therefore never been a concern.
This time I want to try younger ie 18 to 22 but am worried about someone being under the age of consent and lying about their age.
Which form of ID should I be asking for and how easily is it faked?
Thanks.Again, you're on the right tract. How hard core the girl is will also soon become evident in the message exchange. It's not uncommon for girls to raise pricing in the second or third text. Others might hint at bills being due and others still may come up without mentioning anything (but it's still good form to slip them some 'support' or 'taxi money'. Expected price is also a give away. Dreamers will insist on 7 to 8 k and not even do LT or overnight; 4 or 5 k is fair and common; anything less is just saying thanks to a civilian. That's all LT. ST is 1 or 2 k cheaper. Bars or clubs are the same: Burgos or high end freelancer bars are 8 to 10 k but girls just out for a good Saturday night might come back with money not even being mentioned.
ID is a minefield. There are many different types, fakes are easily available and your average foreigner isn't going to be able to tell the difference. When in doubt, just have her show ID at the hotel desk, they will check it and be much more likely to spot problems than you. You can have a word to them before hand and let them know your concerns. No need to be shy about it. It's routine for better hotels to keep the ID of non registered 'guests'. Depending on how good your gaydar is, you may also want to mention that you only want natural born females to be allowed up.
Obviously, if it's too good to be true or you have any suspicions at all, just walk away. Getting caught with the wrong girl is going to be a very bad day indeed. No need to be paranoid but be alert. The under age scam is real and does happen in occassion.
Enjoy. G.
What's he on about? Fantasies? Dream it, achieve it. Get in there, and write us some solid field reports later (the good, bad, ugly).That's actually one of the downsides of Asia. It's near impossible to have fantasies as what ever you can dream up is achievable without too much effort.
Looks, places, kinks. Nothing is out of reach.
G.
Alexandra2525
09-01-25, 13:57
Again, you're on the right tract. How hard core the girl is will also soon become evident in the message exchange. It's not uncommon for girls to raise pricing in the second or third text. Others might hint at bills being due and others still may come up without mentioning anything (but it's still good form to slip them some 'support' or 'taxi money'. Expected price is also a give away. Dreamers will insist on 7 to 8 k and not even do LT or overnight; 4 or 5 k is fair and common; anything less is just saying thanks to a civilian. That's all LT. ST is 1 or 2 k cheaper. Bars or clubs are the same: Burgos or high end freelancer bars are 8 to 10 k but girls just out for a good Saturday night might come back with money not even being mentioned.
ID is a minefield. There are many different types, fakes are easily available and your average foreigner isn't going to be able to tell the difference. When in doubt, just have her show ID at the hotel desk, they will check it and be much more likely to spot problems than you. You can have a word to them before hand and let them know your concerns. No need to be shy about it. It's routine for better hotels to keep the ID of non registered 'guests'. Depending on how good your gaydar is, you may also want to mention that you only want natural born females to be allowed up.
Obviously, if it's too good to be true or you have any suspicions at all, just walk away. Getting caught with the wrong girl is going to be a very bad day indeed. No need to be paranoid but be alert. The under age scam is real and does happen in occassion.
Enjoy. G.Thanks.
I'll probably avoid 18 years then and target 20 to 24 to give a bit more of a safety buffer. And of course I'll still be be be vigilant.
You mentioned dreamers asking 7 or 8 k, a friend of mine was quoted 15 k for 3 hours, and strictly no overnights "because she has a proper job as well". Obviously he declined.
He found that girl via a sugar daddy site so those sorts of crazy prices come with the territory I suppose.
Great advice from everyone, thanks. Now I just need to get out there and have some fun.
This time I want to try younger ie 18 to 22 but am worried about someone being under the age of consent and lying about their age.Don't even go there.
I know an Australian who did / does some voluntary rehab work for prisoners in The Phils.
Philippine jails aren't pretty.
Imprisoned for dealing with minors will earn you an early exit. In a box.
Your home country won't help you.
_ Phil.
Alexandra2525
09-01-25, 17:27
Don't even go there.
I know an Australian who did / does some voluntary rehab work for prisoners in The Phils.
Philippine jails aren't pretty.
Imprisoned for dealing with minors will earn you an early exit. In a box.
Your home country won't help you.
_ Phil.Trust me brother, I don't want to go there. Not just ethically but as you say, I'd last about 2 minutes in any jail let alone a Filipino one.
But are you saying not to target 18 to 22 at all because of the risk? Or just be super careful that they aren't below 18? My risk appetite for getting this wrong is absolutely zero, it would be the end of my life.
Thanks.
Trust me brother, I don't want to go there. Not just ethically but as you say, I'd last about 2 minutes in any jail let alone a Filipino one.
But are you saying not to target 18 to 22 at all because of the risk? Or just be super careful that they aren't below 18? My risk appetite for getting this wrong is absolutely zero, it would be the end of my life.
Thanks.Be super careful. If possible, move the risk to someone else -- hotel front staff or Checkin counter for a flight. Given the fake ids at play, your eyes may not be trained. Are you from US? If so, we are done for sure in US. Its a felony unless you are friends of Ep.
But are you saying not to target 18 to 22 at all because of the risk? Or just be super careful that they aren't below 18? My risk appetite for getting this wrong is absolutely zero, it would be the end of my life.
Thanks.The other guys are right. As a newbie, it's best to be overly cautious. No offence but there are just so many ways it can go wrong even if you act 100% appropriately. On top of these you also have all the opportunities to be scammed.
Some examples that you may not be aware of:
1/. Fake IDs are everywhere but even if it's real is it hers or did she borrow her sister / cousin / friend's? Many girls don't have any legit ID so routinely used someone else's.
2/. Child and women protection laws are very complex Walking alone with a minor in public (not just in your room)? Potentially illegal. Also, it's not only about absolute age. It can also be based upon age difference even if she's 19+.
3/. She said she's 18?? She might be 'running 18'. That's when she's 18 next birthday, not now.
Everyone likes a pretty young thing but tread very cautiously and be 100% certain before heading to your hotel.
Enjoy. G.
Old And Ugly
09-01-25, 22:28
The other guys are right. As a newbie, it's best to be overly cautious. No offence but there are just so many ways it can go wrong even if you act 100% appropriately. On top of these you also have all the opportunities to be scammed.
Some examples that you may not be aware of:
1/. Fake IDs are everywhere but even if it's real is it hers or did she borrow her sister / cousin / friend's? Many girls don't have any legit ID so routinely used someone else's.
2/. Child and women protection laws are very complex Walking alone with a minor in public (not just in your room)? Potentially illegal. Also, it's not only about absolute age. It can also be based upon age difference even if she's 19+.
3/. She said she's 18?? She might be 'running 18'. That's when she's 18 next birthday, not now.
Everyone likes a pretty young thing but tread very cautiously and be 100% certain before heading to your hotel.
Enjoy. G.Or get them from a bar, they will be checked already and approved for use.
But are you saying not to target 18 to 22 at all because of the risk? Or just be super careful that they aren't below 18? My risk appetite for getting this wrong is absolutely zero, it would be the end of my life. I have read most of your posts and I worry that you are over-planning your visit.
I can assure you that things will NOT go according to plan.
I have lived and worked here for 27 years and no day goes as planned, even after so many years.
Regarding the 18-22 year old group.
Do NOT rely on appearance to judge age. It is way too dangerous. Use a valid ID only (and they can be faked).
I attended a wedding recently in my wife's province and I was dumbfounded to see one of her nieces dressed as a bridesmaid. She looked every bit of a stunning 18-20 yo, but I know she is only 14 yo. The magic of clever make-up and hairstyles.
I am like you in that my risk appetite for getting it wrong is also zero.
That's why I stay well away from anyone who arouses suspicion about age. I would rather meet a 30 yo who says she is 25 than the alternative jail bait.
Alexandra2525
09-02-25, 12:13
The other guys are right. As a newbie, it's best to be overly cautious. No offence but there are just so many ways it can go wrong even if you act 100% appropriately. On top of these you also have all the opportunities to be scammed.
Some examples that you may not be aware of:
1/. Fake IDs are everywhere but even if it's real is it hers or did she borrow her sister / cousin / friend's? Many girls don't have any legit ID so routinely used someone else's.
2/. Child and women protection laws are very complex Walking alone with a minor in public (not just in your room)? Potentially illegal. Also, it's not only about absolute age. It can also be based upon age difference even if she's 19+.
3/. She said she's 18?? She might be 'running 18'. That's when she's 18 next birthday, not now.
Everyone likes a pretty young thing but tread very cautiously and be 100% certain before heading to your hotel.
Enjoy. G.I didn't know there was more to it than the age of consent ie the age difference thing you mentioned! I'm mid 50's, does that mean I could still be breaking the law if a girl is over 19 due purely to the numerical age difference??
Alexandra2525
09-02-25, 12:17
Or get them from a bar, they will be checked already and approved for use.Yes but that leaves me the tourist trap places like Burgos ie inflated prices and all hardened P4 P girls. I wanted to enjoy the hunt on PL and maybe get a part timer / amateur.
Alexandra2525
09-02-25, 12:30
I have read most of your posts and I worry that you are over-planning your visit.
I can assure you that things will NOT go according to plan.
I have lived and worked here for 27 years and no day goes as planned, even after so many years.
Regarding the 18-22 year old group.
Do NOT rely on appearance to judge age. It is way too dangerous. Use a valid ID only (and they can be faked).
I attended a wedding recently in my wife's province and I was dumbfounded to see one of her nieces dressed as a bridesmaid. She looked every bit of a stunning 18-20 yo, but I know she is only 14 yo. The magic of clever make-up and hairstyles.
I am like you in that my risk appetite for getting it wrong is also zero.
That's why I stay well away from anyone who arouses suspicion about age. I would rather meet a 30 yo who says she is 25 than the alternative jail bait.You're definitely right about me over planning things, others have pointed that out in the past as well LOL. But I completely get that the plans will be worth mostly shit when I hit the ground.
Back to the age thing; I usually go for the older age bracket ie min 25 and up to 35 but when I've looked through this forum the main 3 or 4 players who also post pictures seem to be banging lovely things that look like they are in their young 20's. The faces are usually obscured but I'm going by the bodies and lack of baby damage. I kinda fancied some of that action.
But I will not take any risk of any kind in this matter, the reward is not worth what I have to lose.
I will still be super vigilant with regards to ID and also try secondary forms of age confirmation ie like work ID, photos in work / study environment / uniform etc but. Is there an age at which we can relax a bit about this? I mean a below age girl might say she's 18 or 19 but is it feasible for her to be claiming 23 or 24? If there's an answer to this I'd rather just not search below that number.
Thanks.
You're definitely right about me over planning things, others have pointed that out in the past as well LOL. But I completely get that the plans will be worth mostly shit when I hit the ground.
Back to the age thing; I usually go for the older age bracket ie min 25 and up to 35 but when I've looked through this forum the main 3 or 4 players who also post pictures seem to be banging lovely things that look like they are in their young 20's. The faces are usually obscured but I'm going by the bodies and lack of baby damage. I kinda fancied some of that action.
But I will not take any risk of any kind in this matter, the reward is not worth what I have to lose.
I will still be super vigilant with regards to ID and also try secondary forms of age confirmation ie like work ID, photos in work / study environment / uniform etc but..Like you and others have said you are over analyzing it. Stop with the questions. You know enough to start and will learn along the way. Please tell me you know how to insert the penis. Even if you don't the Filipina will show you how.
We expect a full report. No need to go blow by blow, please.
Good luck.
Old And Ugly
09-02-25, 15:59
Yes but that leaves me the tourist trap places like Burgos ie inflated prices and all hardened P4 P girls. I wanted to enjoy the hunt on PL and maybe get a part timer / amateur.I'm just saying, go to a bar if you don't want to assume any risks, at least for the first one, until you get accustomed to the place. PL is also mostly P4 P, and amateurs take time to hunt, and not on PL, but in malls, restaurant waitresses, clerks, or take lots of jeepney rides and talk to the ones sitting next to you.
When I hunt, I use the P4 P services until I find the prey because it may take few days, or if I'm with the GF, I send her hunting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDwhPOuCngc
Some life lessons on moving to the Phils here. The guy did not renew his PL membership, no need to, as he got the babe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDwhPOuCngc
Some life lessons on moving to the Phils here. The guy did not renew his PL membership, no need to, as he got the babe.Great video!
Old And Ugly
11-07-25, 14:36
It makes me smile when newcomers present their standards as somehow different than the rest of the mongerers here: best looking, great body, no kids, educated, non pro, lovely, great personality and also horny, (and rich too if possible).
Well, I assure you that all of us are looking for the same. Some (very rare) are finding them, some are not. That's where we all start, and it goes downhill from there, not because we don't want that, but because cannot find that.
So there is no need to specify the search criteria, unless is different from the above mentioned, but so far I never read about someone looking for a chubby, toothless ugly homeless hooker girl with a smelly pussy.
Mr Enternational
11-07-25, 18:00
It makes me smile when newcomers present their standards as somehow different than the rest of the mongerers here: best looking, great body, no kids, educated, non pro, lovely, great personality and also horny, (and rich too if possible).
Well, I assure you that all of us are looking for the same. Some (very rare) are finding them, some are not. That's where we all start, and it goes downhill from there, not because we don't want that, but because cannot find that.
So there is no need to specify the search criteria, unless is different from the above mentioned, but so far I never read about someone looking for a chubby, toothless ugly homeless hooker girl with a smelly pussy.I tell women the same thing with their ridiculous shit. Everybody is looking for someone to take care of them, so stand in line. Last week a Dominican chick that I mess with was saying how she has dreams and shit and she wants someone to support her and be in her corner. I told her that she talks like another person is going to come into her life bearing nothing but good. The truth is that when you double the people, you double the bills and the problems. Women act like men come on the scene to solve their problems, like they do not have problems of their own (usually due to a previous woman!) I wish the fuck I would show up to fix problems that someone else made.
Transporter
11-08-25, 01:03
It makes me smile when newcomers present their standards as somehow different than the rest of the mongerers here: best looking, great body, no kids, educated, non pro, lovely, great personality and also horny, (and rich too if possible).
Well, I assure you that all of us are looking for the same. Some (very rare) are finding them, some are not. That's where we all start, and it goes downhill from there, not because we don't want that, but because cannot find that.
So there is no need to specify the search criteria, unless is different from the above mentioned, but so far I never read about someone looking for a chubby, toothless ugly homeless hooker girl with a smelly pussy.I have to admit, the first 10-15 years (yes I am a slow learner) of playing in this hobby I spent countless hours and wasted a lot of my time seeking the top 1%(in looks). Granted they weren't as tainted as they are now, but I still find it a total waste of my time now (my opinion obviously). Even last week when I was in AC, I was just chillin at the bar and the hottest chick in the club came over to chat with the bartender, she eventually just sat next to me and was wondering why I wasn't interested in her. I told her flat out that she was way too pretty for me to think about BF. I did buy her a drink and she helped me pick out one from the group of not so popular girls that turned out to be an absolute winner.
To tell you truth if you see me walking around with a girl now a days she won't be runway material but I can tell you she did earn the spot to be next to my side.
30+ years of trial and error has given me a pretty good formula for success.
I have to admit, the first 10-15 years (yes I am a slow learner) of playing in this hobby I spent countless hours and wasted a lot of my time seeking the top 1%(in looks). Granted they weren't as tainted as they are now, but I still find it a total waste of my time now (my opinion obviously). Even last week when I was in AC, I was just chillin at the bar and the hottest chick in the club came over to chat with the bartender, she eventually just sat next to me and was wondering why I wasn't interested in her. I told her flat out that she was way too pretty for me to think about BF. I did buy her a drink and she helped me pick out one from the group of not so popular girls that turned out to be an absolute winner.
To tell you truth if you see me walking around with a girl now a days she won't be runway material but I can tell you she did earn the spot to be next to my side..How true it is.
I wasted 15 years chasing from body 8.5 plus younger ones in the states. Then even a few years in PH. Now I even appreciate the little chubs.
But so far I never read about someone looking for a chubby, toothless ugly homeless hooker girl with a smelly pussy.I mightn't have been looking Ugly, but I'll admit, I've ended up with something that fits the description on numerous occasions (maybe except for the dental issues) in the past.
That damned Tanduay and Red Horse!
Always good sex though.
_ Phil.
Old And Ugly
11-16-25, 08:49
While waiting in the PPS airport for the Iloilo flight, the GF wanted a doughnut, the girl at the doughnut stand was sleeping with her head on the counter next to the cash register, and didn't seem to be bothered by all the noise around her, so I let her sleep.
After somebody else woke her up, I did go to her bought a doughnut, and started chatting with her, told her that I saw her sleeping and I didn't want to wake her up, because probably she partied late last night. "No, po, I didn't". Then I said that maybe her boyfriend kept her awake all night, and made her tired. "No, po, I don't have a boyfriend". Girlfriend maybe? I asked. "No, po, I don't do that". How come such a beautiful girl like you, is alone? Do you have kids? " I'm not beautiful, I don't know, no no kids". Yes you're guapa, would you like to go out sometimes? "But you have a GF sir" (She could see us as we were sitting right in front of her). Maybe we go all three of us together, I said, my GF doesn't mind. "Talaga, po? How is that?" . Well, she likes girls too, have you ever been with another girl before? "No po, I don't do that".
And now that I brought the conversation where I wanted without being too direct and scare the prey away or offend her, I could talk about things more directly, like if she ever fantasized about being with another girl, or in a 3 some, and if she liked when she saw it in a porn clip. Of course there was the universal Filipino answer that she's not watching porn, but that's impossible, Ph being nr 1 consumer of XXX on the planet.
She kept looking towards my GF who was sited, and kept avoiding eye contact with her until she catched her and waived to the doughnut girl, and she waived back.
She handed me a paper with her phone nr, and I said that we will call soon when back in town, then another customer came to get doughnuts, and I went back to be seated next to the GF who asked what was all that about? I told her and she said yeah, right, I don't believe you, showed her the paper, and asked if she liked her, she said yes she's cute.
Few minutes later she stepped out from behind the counter to clean the glass in front of the display case, and it turned out that the face didn't match the rest of the body, she had a huge butt and thick thighs, probably from all the expired doughnuts that she felt guilty to throw away, while people are starving in Africa. We looked at eachother, and GF put the paper with the phone nr in the bag next to the half leftover doughnut, and throw it in the trash.
Even that it didn't lead to sticking my dick into her, I wrote this just to show the newcomers how simple is to get pussy in the PH, from unconventional places, for free.
Note: even if they don't ask, you should always give them some money, 1-2-3 K disguised as taxi fare, or something else like "I wanted to buy you something nice, but I had no time" etc.
They need it badly, and it leaves a good impression about foreigners, spreading the good word about us.
Even that it didn't lead to sticking my dick into her, I wrote this just to show the newcomers how simple is to get pussy in the PH, from unconventional places, for free.
Note: even if they don't ask, you should always give them some money, 1-2-3 K disguised as taxi fare, or something else like "I wanted to buy you something nice, but I had no time" etc.
They need it badly, and it leaves a good impression about foreigners, spreading the good word about us.Great reports Ugly.
Yes, The Phils always surprises with pussy opportunities becoming available in the most unexpected places.
Only on a few occasions I've got it for free, but the vast majority of times it has involved a minimal reward disguised as you suggest.
I've often had success in areas not frequented by lots of foreigners. Probably because the stereotype isn't recognized.
The power of the Peso generally matches the power of the pussy.
_ Phil.
While waiting in the PPS airport for the Iloilo flight, the GF wanted a doughnut, the girl at the doughnut stand was sleeping with her head on the counter next to the cash register, and didn't seem to be bothered by all the noise around her, so I let her sleep.
After somebody else woke her up, I did go to her bought a doughnut, and started chatting with her, told her that I saw her sleeping and I didn't want to wake her up, because probably she partied late last night. "No, po, I didn't". Then I said that maybe her boyfriend kept her awake all night, and made her tired. "No, po, I don't have a boyfriend". Girlfriend maybe? I asked. "No, po, I don't do that". How come such a beautiful girl like you, is alone? Do you have kids? " I'm not beautiful, I don't know, no no kids". Yes you're guapa, would you like to go out sometimes? "But you have a GF sir" (She could see us as we were sitting right in front of her). Maybe we go all three of us together, I said, my GF doesn't mind. "Talaga, po? How is that?" . Well, she likes girls too, have you ever been with another girl before? "No po, I don't do that".
And now that I brought the conversation where I wanted without being too direct and scare the prey away or offend her, I could talk about things more directly, like if she ever fantasized about being with another girl, or in a 3 some, and if she liked when she saw it in a porn clip. Of course there was the universal Filipino answer that she's not watching porn, but that's impossible, Ph being nr 1 consumer of XXX on the planet.Wow, I guess I should try that hopefully I won't be called a pervert.
Absolutely, one of the girl didn't wanted any money and said I am not that kind of a girl but I told her that I am not paying her for the service and its for her to buy some nice gift. I had initiated conversation before landing so she had asked me to get chocolates but I couldn't get. Some from DIA will ask you upfront about the allowances, some just grab fare.
While waiting in the PPS airport for the Iloilo flight, the GF wanted a doughnut, the girl at the doughnut stand was sleeping with her head on the counter next to the cash register, and didn't seem to be bothered by all the noise around her, so I let her sleep.
After somebody else woke her up, I did go to her bought a doughnut, and started chatting with her, told her that I saw her sleeping and I didn't want to wake her up, because probably she partied late last night. "No, po, I didn't". Then I said that maybe her boyfriend kept her awake all night, and made her tired. "No, po, I don't have a boyfriend". Girlfriend maybe? I asked. "No, po, I don't do that". How come such a beautiful girl like you, is alone? Do you have kids? " I'm not beautiful, I don't know, no no kids". Yes you're guapa, would you like to go out sometimes? "But you have a GF sir" (She could see us as we were sitting right in front of her). Maybe we go all three of us together, I said, my GF doesn't mind. "Talaga, po? How is that?" . Well, she likes girls too, have you ever been with another girl before? "No po, I don't do that".
And now that I brought the conversation where I wanted without being too direct and scare the prey away or offend her, I could talk about things more directly, like if she ever fantasized about being with another girl, or in a 3 some, and if she liked when she saw it in a porn clip. Of course there was the universal Filipino answer that she's not watching porn, but that's impossible, Ph being nr 1 consumer of XXX on the planet.
She kept looking towards my GF who was sited, and kept avoiding eye contact with her until she catched her and waived to the doughnut girl, and she waived back.
She handed me a paper with her phone nr, and I said that we will call soon when back in town, then another customer came to get doughnuts, and I went back to be seated next to the GF who asked what was all that about? I told her and she said yeah, right, I don't believe you, showed her the paper, and asked if she liked her, she said yes she's cute.
Few minutes later she stepped out from behind the counter to clean the glass in front of the display case, and it turned out that the face didn't match the rest of the body, she had a huge butt and thick thighs, probably from all the expired doughnuts that she felt guilty to throw away, while people are starving in Africa. We looked at eachother, and GF put the paper with the phone nr in the bag next to the half leftover doughnut, and throw it in the trash.
Even that it didn't lead to sticking my dick into her, I wrote this just to show the newcomers how simple is to get pussy in the PH, from unconventional places, for free.
Note: even if they don't ask, you should always give them some money, 1-2-3 K disguised as taxi fare, or something else like "I wanted to buy you something nice, but I had no time" etc.
They need it badly, and it leaves a good impression about foreigners, spreading the good word about us.
I have to be honest here, but I do lack that skill of initiating sexual conversation with strangers in-person (online over chat not an issue LOL) - but good to know that its very casual with filipinos and they don't mind these conversations.
While waiting in the PPS airport for the Iloilo flight, the GF wanted a doughnut, the girl at the doughnut stand was sleeping with her head on the counter next to the cash register, and didn't seem to be bothered by all the noise around her, so I let her sleep.
After somebody else woke her up, I did go to her bought a doughnut, and started chatting with her, told her that I saw her sleeping and I didn't want to wake her up, because probably she partied late last night. "No, po, I didn't". Then I said that maybe her boyfriend kept her awake all night, and made her tired. "No, po, I don't have a boyfriend". Girlfriend maybe? I asked. "No, po, I don't do that". How come such a beautiful girl like you, is alone? Do you have kids? " I'm not beautiful, I don't know, no no kids". Yes you're guapa, would you like to go out sometimes? "But you have a GF sir" (She could see us as we were sitting right in front of her). Maybe we go all three of us together, I said, my GF doesn't mind. "Talaga, po? How is that?" . Well, she likes girls too, have you ever been with another girl before? "No po, I don't do that".
And now that I brought the conversation where I wanted without being too direct and scare the prey away or offend her, I could talk about things more directly, like if she ever fantasized about being with another girl, or in a 3 some, and if she liked when she saw it in a porn clip. Of course there was the universal Filipino answer that she's not watching porn, but that's impossible, Ph being nr 1 consumer of XXX on the planet.
She kept looking towards my GF who was sited, and kept avoiding eye contact with her until she catched her and waived to the doughnut girl, and she waived back.
She handed me a paper with her phone nr, and I said that we will call soon when back in town, then another customer came to get doughnuts, and I went back to be seated next to the GF who asked what was all that about? I told her and she said yeah, right, I don't believe you, showed her the paper, and asked if she liked her, she said yes she's cute.
Few minutes later she stepped out from behind the counter to clean the glass in front of the display case, and it turned out that the face didn't match the rest of the body, she had a huge butt and thick thighs, probably from all the expired doughnuts that she felt guilty to throw away, while people are starving in Africa. We looked at eachother, and GF put the paper with the phone nr in the bag next to the half leftover doughnut, and throw it in the trash.
Even that it didn't lead to sticking my dick into her, I wrote this just to show the newcomers how simple is to get pussy in the PH, from unconventional places, for free.
Note: even if they don't ask, you should always give them some money, 1-2-3 K disguised as taxi fare, or something else like "I wanted to buy you something nice, but I had no time" etc.
They need it badly, and it leaves a good impression about foreigners, spreading the good word about us.
I have to be honest here, but I do lack that skill of initiating sexual conversation with strangers in-person (online over chat not an issue LOL) - but good to know that its very casual with filipinos and they don't mind these conversations.I'd urge a little caution as it all depends on if anyone else is present or within earshot. Pinas are generally very conscious of their reputation so can be very reserved when others are around. However, when alone, the shyest province girl can be very flirtatious or downright naughty.
It's not at all uncommon for what's said in the open and what happens behind closed doors to be two totally different things.
Enjoy. G.
Radical Guy
11-20-25, 01:43
Wow, I guess I should try that hopefully I won't be called a pervert.What are you talking about? We're all perverts. LOL.
Old And Ugly
11-20-25, 04:14
Wow, I guess I should try that hopefully I won't be called a pervert.Just start with an innocent conversation, and see where it goes.
I have to be honest here, but I do lack that skill of initiating sexual conversation with strangers in-person (online over chat not an issue LOL) - but good to know that its very casual with filipinos and they don't mind these conversations.Start a conversation about anything, then a little flirting and see where it goes. You can't come out and just ask if they wampnt to fuxk!
Old And Ugly
11-22-25, 05:18
Start a conversation about anything, then a little flirting and see where it goes. You can't come out and just ask if they wampnt to fuxk!Corect! Unless you're on walking street in AC.
Corect! Unless you're on walking street in AC.Even Walking St is different these days. I have found being direct right off the bat in the bars have a high turn down rate. Girls now need to size you up first to see if they want to barfine with you. Especially the FOB's. Need to have a little conversation first. Then ask if they will barfine with you.
Yes, walk right up to FL's ask if they watch to fuck? Usually they will beat you to it. "I go with you?" That is what they are doing there.
Under my F and F plan it is easy. I just ask if they have a friend or family member who wants to fuck?
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