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well mate, depends if you start to show some bling on your wrist and around your neck. if you wear your clothes overly baggy, it becomes a thug thing if if you wear lacoste.
i sit back watch people who grew up in predominately rich areas associate rappers on tv with and how they dress as being thug wear. i didn't know thugs had a dress code. i grew up in what is now the most violent city in america penniless. i seen a lot of real thugs in my life and they had no certain way how they dressed. i know one thing they sure as hell wasn't wearing armani or lacoste baggy or snug fit. they sure hell was not wearing a one carat diamond earring or diamond watch or platinum necklace as i do.
ok so a 30-40 single white guy with tight pants and tight shirts is wearing **** wear? come on man lets not be silly. a guy wears baggy clothes now he is wearing thug wear. i am sorry but i anit buying it. that shit you saying is like bush for third term i am not even trying it.
i am not a fan of tight pants sticking up my ass. nor do i let my pants "sag" showing my underwear but i wear my pants baggy. guys cut the bullshit...i am 20s something year old black guy from the quote and quote "hood" i am not going to dress like mr. rodgers...
i'm willing to bet that everyone here knows what a thug is.
it's kind of a stereotype that someone from the "hood" thinks that white boys can't possibly understand the hood. hey, i watched the movie 8 mile.
x
i sit back watch people who grew up in predominately rich areas associate rappers on tv with and how they dress as being thug wear. i didn't know thugs had a dress code. i grew up in what is now the most violent city in america penniless. i seen a lot of real thugs in my life and they had no certain way how they dressed. i know one thing they sure as hell wasn't wearing armani or lacoste baggy or snug fit. they sure hell was not wearing a one carat diamond earring or diamond watch or platinum necklace as i do.
ok so a 30-40 single white guy with tight pants and tight shirts is wearing **** wear? come on man lets not be silly. a guy wears baggy clothes now he is wearing thug wear. i am sorry but i anit buying that it. that shit you saying is like bush for third term i am not even trying it.
i am not a fan of tight pants sticking up my ass. nor do i let my pants "sag" showing my underwear but i wear my pants baggy. guys cut the bullshit...i am 20s something year old black guy from the quote and quote "hood" i am not going to dress like mr. rodgers...
I'm willing to bet that everyone here knows what a thug is.
It's kind of a stereotype that someone from the "hood" thinks that white boys can't possibly understand the hood. Hey, I watched the movie 8 mile.
X
X did you just read what this guy wrote. A guy wears jewelry and baggy clothes....all of a sudden it becomes thug wear. Apparently this guy doesn't get it? Is this the Filipinas advice thread or kick down a fellow monger because the way he dresses thread. After some of the expat guys I see walking around Manila malls even my girlfriend makes jokes how bad and out of shape they look. We certainly don't want to play that game.
Hi to all,
just reading some posts here and like to comment on some:
Yfever, if you like or love the worman you should go for it. If you have 2nd thoughts which shows me you have allready (while would you ask to some monger to check if the bills are correct?) you should listen to some guys here and their experiences and be prepared to support the whole familysuckers.
I date also a girl from the barscene in Angeles city and I made it clear when she stopped working I will give her some money if we meet up on the weekend, but thats it. I also gave her some gifts, dvd player, cp, clothes,parfume, etc. Point is, she is a stunner and once she is on stage in atlantis she got lasered within a minute and sit beside my korean or asian monger friends.
I live on site, so actually Im better off if drama knocks on my door and also if some girl will hurt you, cause the next one is just a corner away.
Brings me to the next topic which came up again. Some months ago I ask around , why the hell getting married when livin in the Philippines? Obviously still a big topic on this thread.
I think if you really in love you will go for the marriage thing. Means, if you really meet the one and only. As of now , I havent. Im happy to meet new girls as well stay in contacts with my present ones. I live ordenary life, work and after work have a beer with my friends, or red whine (I have to lose wheight) On the weekends I have fun, either angeles city or Subic if I take a girl there. Its the quickest hideaway if you live in Manila. IM also thinking now to fly to Cebu, since so many hot chicks over there. Or maybe get one to Manila, if she is special.
Honestly fellow mongers, Im not sure about the others expat living in the Philippines but if you live here you like to screw chicks from offices, semi pros, students etc. Getting somebody from a bar, well, evrybody can do it and Im getting more and more tired of that. BUT, if she is hot, ok I will get her, hehehe..
So, my advise, safe money and live in the Philippines and enjoy. From what I read and heard I would never bring back a pinay to my country. To many things can happen and Im not interested to support the whole family.
Actually Im on DIa chatting with a superhot chick now, she has a car, 24, teacher, to good to be true LOL. Not sure if its all true. I dont look like james bond, except we have the same age and the same cellphone, but who knows whats going on in a woman head(more money?more clothes?bigger house? hahaha). So I just wait and see what will happen. I will also try some other places in Manila for mongering. Will report when I try them out, heard they more for nontourists. My singaporean coworkers allways wanted me to join him. Singaporean guys are also chosy little bastards , so I will go with him thes days and write a small report about this here in terms of looks, atmosphere, scenery, safetyconcerns and last not least prices.
Ok, enough said here. Except waterbills. I rent out a 165square meter condo and share with my buddy. Evrybody has his own prvt rooms and bathrooms, so no big deal. Our waterbill for 3 persons is round about 300p a month, more or less and yes I know it, cause I see the bill and have pay for it.
Nice day to all!
Blink
Hi to all,Honestly fellow mongers, Im not sure about the others expat living in the Philippines but if you live here you like to screw chicks from offices, semi pros, students etc. Getting somebody from a bar, well, evrybody can do it and Im getting more and more tired of that. BUT, if she is hot, ok I will get her, hehehe..
Nice day to all!
Blink
I second the notion Blink. I have been mongering P4P strictly for last 3 1/2 years. I am getting tired of it. Been finding myself chasing square tail last few months. Only that's extremely hard when you in a LTR :D
So, my advise, safe money and live in the Philippines and enjoy. From what I read and heard I would never bring back a pinay to my country. To many things can happen and Im not interested to support the whole family.Blink
Family Issues:
I dated a Filipina in Japan for long time. She was living with her mother when I met her. Her mother had pulled her out of college in PI and brought her to Japan to work in those Hostess bars claiming she couldn't afford it anymore. The same job her mother had. Now her mother was old and working in a cosmetic factory. I tried to tell her how her mother had basically ruined her life by doing this. She kept saying no it was her decision etc...denial of the worse kind.
I got her an apartment in a nice area of Saitama told her she didn't have to work and Warbucks would fit the bill. Everything was cool for a couple of months then her mother started the ole I am sick I need to move in with you. I really disliked this woman. Keep in mind the lady maybe was sick but she was not that old she was in her 40s. I am like leave your daughter alone you have done enough.
That was the last straw for me I had to bail....
i sit back watch people who grew up in predominately rich areas associate rappers on tv with and how they dress as being thug wear. i didn't know thugs had a dress code. i grew up in what is now the most violent city in america penniless. i seen a lot of real thugs in my life and they had no certain way how they dressed. i know one thing they sure as hell wasn't wearing armani or lacoste baggy or snug fit. they sure hell was not wearing a one carat diamond earring or diamond watch or platinum necklace as i do.
ok so a 30-40 single white guy with tight pants and tight shirts is wearing **** wear? come on man lets not be silly. a guy wears baggy clothes now he is wearing thug wear. i am sorry but i anit buying it. that shit you saying is like bush for third term i am not even trying it.
i am not a fan of tight pants sticking up my ass. nor do i let my pants "sag" showing my underwear but i wear my pants baggy. guys cut the bullshit...i am 20s something year old black guy from the quote and quote "hood" i am not going to dress like mr. rodgers...
quite true i've been to the hood a few times to pick up some street action, but when the thugs make it big, think what they where. we ware not talking old school rappers like snoop dog, think 50cent. keep in mind you are in asia, so the associate overly baggy clothing with bling and construction boots as gangster.
Radical Guy
10-31-08, 00:12
I'm in the same boat as you are YM! Married to, but separated (wishing it was legally) from, a Korean. I've been trying to get her to do a separation agreement since I moved out in 2005, so I can avoid all the expenses of a full blown fight in court. The problem is the crazy b*tch won't make up her mind about things, and put it on paper. She keeps e-mailing to say she wants to do it the quick and easy way, but refuses to go to the FREE legal service on the military base!
I don't have a lot to loose. We are joint owners of a house in Texas. But that is really the only thing of value that we have. I just don't want to be ordered to be paying her half (or more) of my paycheck. However, I am getting more and more irritated with the idea that she won't cooperate on the separation agreement/uncontested divorce idea. I'm ready to contact the lawyers and just file and accept what happens.
Anyone know a good lawyer in Texas (or a good hit man in Korea)?I'm a Texas lawyer, and I do mostly family law. I highly recommend that you sign NOTHING until you have consulted with an experienced family lawyer.
quite true i've been to the hood a few times to pick up some street action, but when the thugs make it big, think what they where. we ware not talking old school rappers like snoop dog, think 50cent. keep in mind you are in asia, so the associate overly baggy clothing with bling and construction boots as gangster.
in what asian country do they associate baggy clothes with gangsters. in japan they loved it. they associated tattoos with the yakuza real gangsters. in the philippines also they associate tattoos with criminal activity but not baggy clothes.
you sir are the person who associates baggy clothes with thugs. the person who started this whole thug debate... carmex had a friend in thailand who as protocal anally raped bar girls... he was wearing a $20 hawaiian shirt. is that not thug behavior?
pimpster won't you post some reports and photos and stop harassing senior members over their wardrobe.
the person who started this whole thug debate... carmex had a friend in thailand who as protocal anally raped bar girls... he was wearing a $20 hawaiian shirt. is that not thug behavior.hmmm, for the record, it was an $120 silk hawaiian shirt thank you, and that guy is no longer an acquaintance of mine. it was not me that started the debate, it was you. i was paraphrasing what my friends had said to me; and the quote was, "wanna be thugs". meaning (i assume) young kids with jobs who are trying to look tough in the ville. the statement was from them, not me. you sir, are the one who started this.
i have absolutely no idea what "thug" behavior/clothing/ideas/look is. my point was that my two friends, who are black and were not dressed as the guys they described as "wanna be thugs" got hit on by korean girls in the ville, and scored. they both have been to the pi with me three times, and laugh at the thought that "black guys can't score in the pi" or whatever comments you have made about that.
we will be down in ac for new years, so if you want to meet them come on down.
Good day to all,
freezing my feet here in Europe, hopefully I get back in two weeks to the sunny Philippines.
Reading the forum here about "family issues". That is one fact why I dont get married in the Philippines, cause I dont want to spend my hard earned money (starting work around 9.30am) to some familysuckers who cant get their lazy ass up.
Before I will comit to this big step, I have to know the girl, as well as her family. Thats why Im a big curious about guys who know their "GF´s" a couple of days (s0me just a couple of hours) and ready to marry them.
Maybe some things to discuss here.
DW, how did it end when you cut your GF mom lose? I really like to know, because family ties is a big problem here in the Philippines.
Good day to all
Blink
DW, how did it end when you cut your GF mom lose? I really like to know, because family ties is a big problem here in the Philippines.
Good day to all
Blink
Man I just told her it was not working for me. I told her her mother fucked up her own life and now she was going to fuck up hers more then what she already did. She hated to do it but she deep sixed the mother...
Member #4214
10-31-08, 14:22
Family Issues:
I dated a Filipina in Japan for long time. She was living with her mother when I met her. Her mother had pulled her out of college in PI and brought her to Japan to work in those Hostess bars claiming she couldn't afford it anymore. The same job her mother had. Now her mother was old and working in a cosmetic factory. I tried to tell her how her mother had basically ruined her life by doing this. She kept saying no it was her decision etc...denial of the worse kind ...
Not sure I really buy your logic at face value. A 'college education' in the PI doesn't say much, and unless you go to a good nursing school, won't get you very far, very fast either.
But certainly in Japan she can make relatively lots of money fast if she meets the right sucker. Apparently it panned out for her jus' like momma said. :-))
Not sure I really buy your logic at face value. A 'college education' in the PI doesn't say much, and unless you go to a good nursing school, won't get you very far, very fast either.
But certainly in Japan she can make relatively lots of money fast if she meets the right sucker. Apparently it panned out for her jus' like momma said. :)
Your idiot if you think coming to Japan and sitting with old ass Japanese men every night is better then getting an college education. What happens when she gets old as per-say what happened to her mother the lady was a pitiful sight bruh. I know plenty of people who are working in PI who got an PI education and though they are not living a life of luxury but they are getting by.
Now you implying because I met a lady enjoyed her company and didn't want to see her in those clubs I am a sucker? I love when people chim in with their supreme knowledge. I knew this women for over two years before I got involved with her. I wasn't one of those guys who come overseas and fall in love and talk about marriage after a couple of hours bruh...
Once again second time I had to say this today. Post some reports or some photos instead of fucking with other members...
Member #4214
10-31-08, 15:54
Your idiot if you think coming to Japan and sitting with old ass Japanese men every night is better then getting an college education. What happens when she gets old as per-say what happened to her mother the lady was a pitiful sight bruh. I know plenty of people who are working in PI who got an PI education and though they are not living a life of luxury but they are getting by.
Now you implying because I met a lady enjoyed her company and didn't want to see her in those clubs I am a sucker? I love when people chim in with their supreme knowledge. I knew this women for over two years before I got involved with her. I wasn't one of those guys who come overseas and fall in love and talk about marriage after a couple of hours bruh...
Once again second time I had to say this today. Post some reports or some photos instead of fucking with other members...
I didn't mean to pick a fight ... this is my last word on the topic.
My point was, I've been to the clubs in Japan, and have known my share of Filipinas. Hands down, a girls got a better chance of 'movin' on up' by assiduously plying her wares in Japan than spinning her wheels in most Phil 'colleges.' How you think her mother looks is completely irrelevant.
in what asian country do they associate baggy clothes with gangsters. in japan they loved it. they associated tattoos with the yakuza real gangsters. in the philippines also they associate tattoos with criminal activity but not baggy clothes.
you sir are the person who associates baggy clothes with thugs. the person who started this whole thug debate... carmex had a friend in thailand who as protocal anally raped bar girls... he was wearing a $20 hawaiian shirt. is that not thug behavior?
pimpster won't you post some reports and photos and stop harassing senior members over their wardrobe.
ahemmm did you actually read my entire post or just decide to spew at the mouth, because you got up on the wrong side of the bed. what asian countries try japan its an entire hip hop culture, just in case you didn't know that being so senior and all. i was merely pointing out that if the so call brothers were wearing baggy clothes clothes and bling on themselves they wouldn't be looked the same as say obama in a suit. how the f did that become harassment? you sir no very little about hip hop culture its underground culture. as for my reports, i feel no need to write so call so call penthouse letters of imaginary letters about how this 18 year old girl was so into me even though i m old , fat, anal and have a fulll set of dentures.is really into me and i rocked her world like no other for that whole minute.
bacolod turned out to be a pleasant surprise. i spent little time there, but on the first night just hopped into a cab and asked the driver to take me to a bar. i was not looking for company, just to have some fun and do a bit if research for you guys. i was not hoping for much, especially when the driver said he would take me to the bacolod casino. but when you get there, boy, there is so much for such a back water town.
in front of the casino and to the left (when facing it) begins a good sized square with lots of bars and cafes. in the center seem to be cafes for eating and hanging out. along the perimeter is girlie bar after girlie bar. sort of a burgos of visayas (is this still visayas? i think they speak a different dialect here). there must be about 15 bars. some are just open bars with a few girls sitting inside waiting, some are karaoke. many have a show with one girl dancing and lots waiting to entertain customers.
in the bars with dancing, of course several girls will come sit with you to chat, cuddle and eventually ask you to buy a drink. my drinks were generally p90 for two bottles of beer; her’s were p250. but there was not a lot of pressure to buy. it was so quiet that they seemed happy just to have me there. for the most part the dancing girls are uninspiring but the real action is at my table.
in the first bar i entered, probably the first as you walk from the casino, several girls out front stopped me to chat, and then dragged me in. it was quite bright inside as opposed to some bars that are so dark that you really can’t see the girls. i focused on one, but they all were acceptably attractive and sweet. she was wearing a tube top and skirt. i ordered my beer and she asked me to buy her a drink. i asked about the price, then declined as i was not sure yet that i would stay, or stay with her. after another minute or two of cuddling, she asked if i wanted to play with her pussy. talk about direct. she slipped up her skirt and pulled open her...
feb 07
avoid the go-go/strip bars as their prices are driven outrageously by the japanese/korean tourists and local sugar barons. they are concentrated mostly in the goldenfields commercial complex, the area where the casino filipino is located. i stayed at the new days hotel there, which at p980 (double occupation) a night is the biggest bang for your buck in the area. definitely girl-friendly. (see attachment)...
now back to the bars, the biggest i entered, the "wild cat" had ladies drinks amounting to p390, vip "short time" rooms for p3000 and bar fine at p4500. insane considering it is even higher than manila prices. i am a local so i don't see this as a special "foreigner" price. also, i noticed most of the girls here came from outside bacolod - bohol, dumaguete and cebu - and sleep in the bars so don't expect some "freelance" action after their work. dangerously, some girls admitted to me being ****, and laying a girl below 18 is punishable by death in philippine law. so take caution! avoid also the streetwalkers in the goldenfields area - they will haggle with you for a low price but not much action when she comes to your room, will make up a lot of excuses - from menstruation to crying baby at home.
if you are looking for real gfe action, i suggest you approach your hotel boy or taxi driver. they pimp student or housewife "part timers". prices range from p1000-p2000 and they come to your room. the only drawback is that you can only get them before 5pm... probably because of dorm curfew or suspecting husband... but its worth it! if you have fun, get their cellphone numbers and arrange a second meeting directly for a more flexible time. if you are in bacolod, call jeffrey... 0916-314-6922, he's actually a taxi driver but will show you a good time... honest and he speaks very good english since he's used to touring foreigners.
bacolod turned out to be a pleasant surprise. i spent little time there, but on the first night just hopped into a cab and asked the driver to take me to a bar. i was not looking for company, just to have some fun and do a bit if research for you guys. i was not hoping for much, especially when the driver said he would take me to the bacolod casino. but when you get there, boy, there is so much for such a back water town.
in front of the casino and to the left (when facing it) begins a good sized square with lots of bars and cafes. in the center seem to be cafes for eating and hanging out. along the perimeter is girlie bar after girlie bar. sort of a burgos of visayas (is this still visayas? i think they speak a different dialect here). there must be about 15 bars. some are just open bars with a few girls sitting inside waiting, some are karaoke. many have a show with one girl dancing and lots waiting to entertain customers.
in the bars with dancing, of course several girls will come sit with you to chat, cuddle and eventually ask you to buy a drink. my drinks were generally p90 for two bottles of beer; her’s were p250. but there was not a lot of pressure to buy. it was so quiet that they seemed happy just to have me there. for the most part the dancing girls are uninspiring but the real action is at my table.
in the first bar i entered, probably the first as you walk from the casino, several girls out front stopped me to chat, and then dragged me in. it was quite bright inside as opposed to some bars that are so dark that you really can’t see the girls. i focused on one, but they all were acceptably attractive and sweet. she was wearing a tube top and skirt. i ordered my beer and she asked me to buy her a drink. i asked about the price, then declined as i was not sure yet that i would stay, or stay with her. after another minute or two of cuddling, she asked if i wanted to play with her pussy. talk about direct. she slipped up her skirt and pulled open her panty to reveal a very nice, delectably furry, pussy. as i said it was quite bright so i could well inspect, and everyone else could see what we were doing. but how could i resist. she told me that there were no customers today, and she needed to buy rice before going home to her family. i slipped her p100 and checked it out. yes soft, warm, wet. at the same she was rubbing my thigh and "little brother". she asked if i wanted to go upstairs to the private room. it was p1, 200. i declined. by then i was beginning to show my enthusiasm, though the show was quite boring. she asked if she could see my "little brother", and maybe kiss him. thinking it was time to move on, i declined. then she had to dance. her first dance was also rather uninspiring, but for the second she came out essentially nude. she was quite nice looking, and keep in mind that the lights were bright. she was not shy at all.
after the dance she came back to me. she had put on the skirt but not the top or panty. there is something about a cold beer in one hand and soft pussy in the other (like the bars in phnom penh, but that is a different section). it makes it harder to get up and leave. after a few minutes she suggested we go to a private table. what the hell. so we moved from one in the center of this well lit room, to one on the side, still quite well lit. as i was really enjoying her i finally agreed to buy her a drink. within a minute she had my pants open and was inspecting junior, who was now very happy to be let out. i did not let her suck me as i am too cautious to do bbbj, but she kept trying. i am quite sure if we went to the private room there would be no limits. over the next 30 minutes we chatted. she is 28, one child, boyfriend left. nice breasts and tummy for a mom. during that time she continued to stroke mr happy, and had several of the other girls came over to inspect him as well and i enjoyed checking out their bodies too. it was a little weird how uninhibited they all were. finally i decided to move on and check out the other bars.
the next one was a bit more upscale. the girl who sat with me lookedso yummy but turned out to be 18 and seemingly very inexperienced. i bought her a drink and learned about her, then decided she was too young to be interesting for me and moved on.
the next bar was similar to the first, but dark and also few customers. the girl who joined me was a tiny thing. instead of waiting i quickly bought her a drink. as soon as it came she sat on my lap and began rubbing. she had a loose top and no bra, loose shorts and no panty. she was shaved. she was fast. in the space of three minutes i was playing with her pussy and she had my little brother out and happy. after minute i realized that she was trying to slip me inside her, right there in the bar. it was dark enough that others could not see exactly what was going on, i think. well if i was not going to let the first girl suck me bare back, i was not going to fuck this girl in public and without a condom. so i slowed things down. at that point it was her turn to dance. i gave her p100 tip and moved on.
the last bar in the corner of the square was again more upscale and dark, and had many customers. the girls were more beautiful, model types, and their dancing was more sophisticated. they mostly danced in skimpy clothes or underwear, occasionally one of the girls would take off her top. here there were lots of waiters and they regularly asked if they could bring a girl to my table. i could see that many of the customers were with girls, but just drinking and chatting and not so much cuddling. this could get expensive and not result in any satisfaction without taking the girl out, which i assume you could. i was more interested in continuing my research into furry vrs. shaved, and so moved on.
next i walked outside the square onto araneta street. there were several more bars there and i walked into one. same story as the first and third bars, a girl dancing and lots more to keep you company. this girl was very pretty, probably 22 but a bit too professional. she quickly moved on to the bar fine, which she said was p3, 000. i laughed and made a joke of it. i told her that was the tourist price and asked for a discount, but she did not seem interested in playing. it is hard for me to believe that is the real price and i sensed that the two earlier girls would have just walked out with me, or at least come to my hotel after their shifts.
it was late, i had an early start and i was tired, so time to head to bed. but i was left wondering how bacolod could have such a lively night life. who was it that supported it? i don’t know, but if you do, be sure to thank him.
ju;l 08
the recreation area is walking distance from the hotel, right on the main drag. like our friend said, lot of things to do there. i saw they were trying to build an outdoor water park even. if you take a jeepney for a couple minutes in the other direction, it goes to the big mall, the downtown, banks, etc. they don't have the armed guards everywhere like mla. streets are clean, no homeless people lying around. no bad smells, air is very clean. there is a big park in the center of the city where some homeless men live, but even that doesnt look scary. lots of cute girls sitting around with nothing to do all day.
if anyone wants to go there, i can refer my friend gilbert to you. you can chat with him, he can line you up with some real beauties. send me an email.
baguio - scenic, but not like a tropical climate. reminds me of oregon
rizal - very crowded, but not much to look at or trouble to get in to
dasmarinas - crowded, noisy. two guys on a jeepney got aggressive with me. saw lots of kids begging near the mall.
i am trying to go again soon, got some real nice chicas lined up. but my income is like half of last year. very frustrating. good luck everybody
i went to bacolod city last fall, spent five days there. i had arranged ahead of time to meet a local girl, so i did not do any pure mongering. i was not convinced it was so easy to meet girls everywhere, but it really is. however, i would like to suggest you consider the city.
it was about 2300 p to fly in from manila. only couple flights a day each way. they have a very nice hotel called the sugarland just a few minutes from the airport. originally they were charging me 1800 p per day to include two luxury breakfast buffets, but when i inquired about lowering the bill, they eliminated the buffet and room charge came down to 1300p.
there is a small casino just walking distance from the hotel. there is a row of strip bars just right nearby too. i visited the sugar lips 'hubad' (which means undress). for $2.25 us, that paid my admission and also got me two san migs. single lady drinks were only 175p. girls were very polite and not pushy. each took turns doing semi clothed dances to start with, but within one hour they were dancing naked. i did not take a girl out of the bar because there was one who was waiting for me.
i am 46 years old, starting to age but still look little boyish. i felt the love immediately from young filipinas, they treated me like brad pitt. enjoyed fine sex with the one lady. her brother is a sort of important local guy on the night scene. he has since directed me to numerous young 20's girls who are dying to meet me on the next trip. anyone thinking of a different place to hang out, try bacolod, clean, safe, quiet, but lots of pretty girls. lots of them.
just finished a seven day visit to bacolod for masskara festival. the city is quite clean and the streets are wide with little traffic. there are a number of discos in town with the greatest concentration in an area known as goldenfields. barfines are 3,000 and the girl gets half. several of the bars are owned by the same bakla and the girls report he/she/it treats them very poorly. they are not allowed to live off the premises and must pay for the meals provided. they are allowed to go out for a few hours in the afternoon and most are anxious to meet you at that time. i did not accept this option so i don't have a fix on the price.
there are also freelancers available. around the town square there are some who will approach you. price is "what you want". the best scene for me was a couple of clubs. mo2 , in goldenfields, and another on the north end of town called entertainment depot, my personal favorite. there is a robinson's mall and many girls hang out there. twice i used a cab driver to arrange things for me. once we went to the goldenfields area and once to a little casa. in both cases the asking price was 1,500 but was quickly reduced to the offered 1,000. as with most pay first scenarios the girls had little incentive to provide the desired service or stay for long time, in fact both were runners after an hour or two.
my best experience was with a girl i met at the festival. all of them will watch you and they are very approacable. just put on your best smile and attitude and have a go at them. bacolod is called the "city of smiles" and i can see why. the festival was a blast but seven days is too long. the last three days are the time to come. i would highly recommend this city during masskara festival.
i visited the sugar lips 'hubad' (which means undress). for $2.25 us, that paid my admission and also got me two san migs. single lady drinks were only 175p. girls were very polite and not pushy. each took turns doing semi clothed dances to start with, but within one hour they were dancing naked. i did not take a girl out of the bar because there was one who was waiting for me.
there are also freelancers available. around the town square there are some who will approach you. price is "what you want". the best scene for me was a couple of clubs. mo2 , in goldenfields, and another on the north end of town called entertainment depot, my personal favorite. there is a robinson's mall and many girls hang out there. twice i used a cab driver to arrange things for me. once we went to the goldenfields area and once to a little casa. in both cases the asking price was 1,500 but was quickly reduced to the offered 1,000. as with most pay first scenarios the girls had little incentive to provide the desired service or stay for long time, in fact both were runners after an hour or two.
ex pinoy
try “club north” in northern portion of bacolod city (in front of ayala north point, talisay) — they say the prettiest chics in bacolod city can be found here — or you may try other popular hangouts like mo2 bar in golden fields commercial complex or at the depot near robinson’s place.
also visit small bars frequented by coeds from middle class colleges near the riverside medical center.
“there are lots of pretty girls down here bro,” says pinoy spy spikespeigel
mike_ekim adds that goldenfields commercial center, where the casino filipino hotel in bacolod city is located, is also a hot spot.
as a filipina living in bacolod, i would suggest going to goldenfields or the public plaza after 6pm. you can find what you are looking for there.
you can expect women to be 'cleaner' than the ones in mla/ac.
oh and bacolod women are known for being 'malambing' and so very willing to please. just be careful not to be conned into marriage.
bacolod activities
visit mambukal hot springs
visit the public plaza #58, san juan st after 6 pm
visit goldenfields #87, near magsaysay st
miss b miraflor
miss a therese
miss c grace
miss d jacqueline
miss e tetcha
miss g mavis mae
miss f margie
miss h maria fe
miss j mary ann
miss i juliet f
well, sometimes the ball falls my way, sometimes not. i had started this adventure with twin objectives of finding my ideal woman, while getting in lots of jig-a-jig. these are often conflicting objectives. and i had adopted the mass contacts approach, that is, lots of names and numbers at each of my ports of call, with key targets supported by multiple backups.
as has been the case before, there is many a slip between the lip and the lip.
i had thought of spending time in both bacolod and cagayan de oro, but eventually decided on bacolod only, because of the preponderance of positive leads.
first up was miss b from my previous adventure in cebu. i had booked her in for four days, with the expectation that i could extend her time if things went well. she was a confirmed virgin, but i had successfully undermined her arguments for retaining her virginity. so she had said that she was going to do away with it when we got together. this was very much the case, but only partly, and actually made the situation worse. when we went to bed, she indeed was ready to do away with it. but her **** was so small, and so tight, that it was very difficult to get inside her, and it hurt. because it hurt, she tightened up next time, and things went on very slowly. in the end, she was no longer a virgin, has fallen desperately in love with the man that took her hymen, but i am not getting my jollies in return. she has shown preparedness to blow, but she is very conservative, and it is tokenist only. what a mess.
after four days, i sent her home, as originally planned. she flew out early in the morning, and i had scheduled a luncheon with miss a, who looked ideal in her profile. however the reality was a woman with a really twisted mind, and with a gear or two missing. while we were talking and eating, she invited 4 of her friends to join us. i was bloody pissed with this, and made no offer to buy them lunch, or even drinks. so we talked en mass for a while till they took the hint and left. and not long after, i bailed out to.
miss c was booked for the evening, a simple dinner in the hotel, with the expectation of a romp in the pit. we had chatted about our options and preferences in coupling, so my expectations were high. however, as the time got close, i texted her to confirm that she would front on time. however, her mobile was with her sister, who rushed off to find her sister. the two of them turned up a bit late, but pretty much on time philippines time. we started with a nice dinner, simple, and things went well. until miss c checked wit me that it was ok for her sister to stay with us overnight. i was a bit askance, and asked how old her sister is. 15. very juicy, voluptuous, willing, but dynamite. i said that she could not stay, because she is ****. they argued that the law is pretty lax, and it would be ok. i could see myself in front of a firing squad, and stood my ground. when the dinner had finished, we went to my room, but i left to door open, and stood close by the door, just to be sure. as the talk went on, they were obviously put out that i was so steadfast in my refusal, even though they offered that she would sleep on the floor.
eventually, miss c said that she would take her sister home, and come back later. but she did not front. strike out night one.
next day was lunch with miss d, a tall, thin woman, 31, teacher, independent. ideal. we were to meet in a mall for lunch, with the expectation that we would get together in the evening for further exploration. however the reality was a short, plump woman with an even fatter friend who was also ugly. we had a civil lunch, although i was really pissed at her deception. she was more than willing, and would be an enthusiastic lay. but i was turned off already, and plump turns me off. so after lunch, i went to their school to have a look, then beat it.
so, a bloody big gap in the program. but miss e had been texting aggressively, so i said ok, we would meet in robinson’s mall, to watch the judging of the miss masskara swimsuit competition. however, as usual, nothing is as it seems. it turns out that the information given to me by the tourist authority was wrong, and the judging was to be at sm mall. too far to change on short notice. anyhow, miss e turned up right on time, with a plump friend, who took off pretty soon after, and left to two of us alone. miss e is tall, thin, intelligent, educated and a teacher making decent money. ideal. but it turns out that she is totally controlled by her parents, and cannot stay out later than 10, and no interest in short time jig-a-jig. bugger. so we parted company, with her interest whetted, but her virginity confirmed.
so i stopped off at the italia restaurant for a very nice italian meal, dropped my stuff at the hotel, and headed out to the goldenfields complex to check out the bars.
due to some erroneous directions, it took me a while to find the right place. a bunch of bars, ktvs, restaurants and comedy shows in a row around the outside of a central group of restaurants. i made a first pass right round the outside to confirm the limits of opportunity. then i started at the first to look in to each place to check for fun options. while i was strolling along the sidewalk, a woman, later miss f, attached herself to me. she looked ok, and was pretty talkative, so i did not [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) her off completely. later, i came to the view that she was on her first experience, and was pretty nervous. after a couple of false starts, i went into a bar called my girl, or similar – a red and black sign over the door. it looked pretty dead, but there were some pretty good looking women there. so i sat down in a corner booth, with miss f close by. a couple of girls came over and chatted for a while. i checked the bar fine, 3,500, and ld for 290. so i declined both, with money for the girl, that would amount to 5,000 or more. but one of them was especially pretty, with a wonderful figure. they eventually drifted away. miss f tried to maintain a conversation, and did pretty well at it. she promised me a good massage if i took her home with me.
as the evening wore on, more customers started coming in at about 10 pm, and the place picked up noticeably. after a while, some of the girls started stripping to naked, and there were some honeys of figures, something to please everyone. as my interest danced, at each number she removed more, till she was bare. very nice indeed.
so when i had had enough, i left, with miss f in tow. she would do, if the price was right. i had asked her before what was her price, but the usual – up to you. this time, i made sure that she understood, and agreed. she asked if 1,000 would be ok. i said yes, surprised at how cheap. she came back to the hotel, we stripped for a shower, and she revealed a real jungle of a bush. i said that if i was going to give her a good licking, the bush would have to go. she was more than agreeable, so we clipped and shaved her to bare pubes, and a very pretty pussy, wide open, turned on, showing pink. when we got started, i figured pretty quickly that this was new to her. and i think she had only ever had basic missionary, no foreplay, because she seemed surprised with herself, and was very responsive. it was a lovely night, snooze, root, snooze, suck, snooze play. we went to breakfast at 9, and she left at 10, promising to return next night, same arrangement. what a lovely way to spend a night.
next morning was get things organised day. a continuous stream of texts, calls. these women obviously spend all day doing nothing, and texting is their entertainment. i set up the next set of meetings, and finalized logistical arrangements.
i had scheduled lunch with miss g, at the local jollibee in sm. she fronted as planned, but as before, the promise was much more than the reality, and i bailed out. so, a casual, relaxing afternoon, just texting, phoning. then miss
f turned up right on time. we had a nice dinner, no hurry, both knowing that we had a good night ahead of us. and so it was, just as passionate and gfe as the previous night. but this time i was leaving early in the morning, so we did not get our relaxed breakfast. i paid her as the night before, and left her with all of the stuff that i had in the room, food, drinks, beers, an electric water heater, towels etc. she was laden and very happy. we parted with a lovely kiss.
so, let’s see how things pan out. next stop, manila.
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for what it is worth, i have spent the last three trips to phils setting up with regular women as friends and lovers.
it took quit a lot of time and effort through cherry blossoms and dia, but now i have four or five regulars.
one works in a regular office job, independent, intelligent, exactly what i am looking for in shape and attitude. about 30.
one is in real estate, very attractive features, smart, self sufficient, headstrong, body a bit soft, but a raging fucker. late 30's, lied about her age on cb, but still good value, works out, exercises, pretty good shape.
one is willowy and tall, unemployed, but seems to have enough money to move around quite a bit. she has had one child, but her body is unmarked. i have give her a little money but not much.
one is tall, slim, very pretty, perfect figure, was a virgin when we met, but is now asking for money to help her and her family. i have said no, not till we live together. i will see how this one pans out.
one is drop dead gorgeous, very tall, slim, intelligent. i have been communicating with her for a couple of years from another association, and she had said that she was finally ready to get rid of her virginity. unfortunately, we only had half a night together, but she was intent on deviginising herself, and i did the deed. she has asked for help to get herself a job, and i have helped with a little money. she is now in regular work, and does not need any more from me. about 24.
one is thai, from a middle class family, financially independent, very loving. about 30. body a bit soft from one child, but a very nice woman. but not much english, so communication is hard work while we are together. a fantastic blow job. needs no money from me.
there are a couple of others in the phils and thailand who want to get into a long term relationship, but i am at my limit.
all are very loving and fun and very satisfying to be with and are cheap to maintain. so it can be done. i am 65, and wearing out, so they are not into me for my looks.
SORRY ABOUT THE BALLS UP WITH MY PREVIOU POST. A CUT AND PASTE PROBLEM, MY FAULT.
For what it is worth, I have spent the last three trips to Phils setting up with regular women as friends and lovers.
It took quit a lot of time and effort through Cherry Blossoms and DIA, but now I have four or five regulars.
One works in a regular office job, independent, intelligent, exactly what I am looking for in shape and attitude. About 30.
One is in real estate, very attractive features, smart, self sufficient, headstrong, body a bit soft, but a raging fucker. Late 30's, lied about her age on CB, but still good value, works out, exercises, pretty good shape.
One is willowy and tall, unemployed, but seems to have enough money to move around quite a bit. She has had one child, but her body is unmarked. I have give her a little money but not much.
One is tall, slim, very pretty, perfect figure, was a virgin when we met, but is now asking for money to help her and her family. I have said no, not till we live together. I will see how this one pans out.
One is drop dead gorgeous, very tall, slim, intelligent. I have been communicating with her for a couple of years from another association, and she had said that she was finally ready to get rid of her virginity. Unfortunately, we only had half a night together, but she was intent on deviginising herself, and I did the deed. She has asked for help to get herself a job, and I have helped with a little money. She is now in regular work, and does not need any more from me. About 24.
One is Thai, from a middle class family, financially independent, very loving. About 30. Body a bit soft from one child, but a very nice woman. But not much English, so communication is hard work while we are together. A fantastic blow job. Needs no money from me.
There are a couple of others in the Phils and Thailand who want to get into a long term relationship, but I am at my limit.
All are very loving and fun and very satisfying to be with and are cheap to maintain. So it can be done. I am 65, and wearing out, so they are not into me for my looks.
True, true, true, but I have been to both Japan and Hong Kong with these guys, and believe me, they could score anywhere, with anyone. It doesn't seem to me that clothes/looks would make a difference anywhere, not just bar girls. Some guys just have that special something that attracts women.
I agree, you live in PI, and we are on vacation. Same as in Hawaii, tourist vs. Local. We travel in different circles. Active duty military vs. Civilian adds to the equation. When I am on vacation, I just want to have a good time without any hassels. Don't we all?
I personally think it is personality. Just good attitude, fun vibes, and a genuine want to have a good time. When ever I return alone to places we have been, the girls ALWAYS ask me, "where is. ". They also say things like, "I have never done that before, etc. " Used to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off, but now I am used to it.
Any chance we can get this forum back to talking about fucking girls and not fashion accessories?
Carmex
Hi to all,
being now forced due business obligation to spend some days at my former home in Europe I meet up with some of my friends. Two of them are married now to a filipina. Its funny, how time can change somebody. One of my best friend deny or put negative comments about my life here in the Philippines.
As of him I have no idea whats going on in the Philippines, no idea about filipinas, no idea about nothing. He critizes my lifestyle, telling me the girls love me only because IM a foreigner. Asking me whats the fun to have such young GF and what do I talk to them. He is one of my best friends , so I just ignore his comments. He just bought his wife a house ina subdivison in Batangas for 25.000 Euros. Of course its not finished and of course if ever finished, he will be the last who will moving in. First of all it will be occupied by the relative of his wife , who spends more time and money in the Philippines then actually living and working in Germany.
Whenever Im alone with her she ask me to get her a job in the Phils. I ask her to submit me her CV and she like...."WHat"??
Actually deep inside I can feel of the jellyness of my friends. Im not banging 12 virgins evry day but I get more fun in the Philippines then here in my country. My lifestyle is much better and my weekends even more. Talking about what do I do with the young girls here. Well, I fuck them and if I like to talk with somebody I got my friends and have a beer.
Within this said evrybody a nice day. I myself enjoy the good beer and looking forward to get back this month.
Blink out
Devilspinkick
11-02-08, 18:11
hello,
i realize that it's hard to generalise about a whole population of women but i was wondering how the culture of the pi affects filipinas sexual performance. i've yet to visit the pi. i've been to thailand a handful of times and though i like the women there it annoys me how they tend to act all shy and timid when it's time to do the deed. i know that it's a cultural thing in asia for the ladies to be modest but i like women that are more aggressive in the sack.
since the pi has some latin influence i'm hoping that filipinas possess more of that passion that i'm used to. my primary stomping ground is brazil. where it's not uncommon for a chick to practically [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) you in bed.
any advice on how filipnas are? passive? aggressive? at least as good as the thais?
dsk
I met a nice girl in Cebu last year and we spent a few enjoyable weeks together. I invited her back to my country in April and we had another good time. Although I gave her some financial assistance on each occasion, she regards me as her bf and has never asked me for extra money.
Her brother's getting married in January and, out of the blue, I get a request to agree to be a principal sponsor, listed as such on the wedding invitation. To me, a sponsor is someone who pays the bills so my immediate reaction was to decline. However, a Google search reveals that it's something of an honour to be invited to be a principal sponsor at a PI wedding and the sites I saw made no mention of financial support.
What do you guys think? If I agree, will I be expected to cough up large amounts of money? If I decline, will that be an insult to the family?
White Wolf
11-03-08, 12:51
I met a nice girl in Cebu last year and we spent a few enjoyable weeks together. I invited her back to my country in April and we had another good time. Although I gave her some financial assistance on each occasion, she regards me as her bf and has never asked me for extra money.
Her brother's getting married in January and, out of the blue, I get a request to agree to be a principal sponsor, listed as such on the wedding invitation. To me, a sponsor is someone who pays the bills so my immediate reaction was to decline. However, a Google search reveals that it's something of an honour to be invited to be a principal sponsor at a PI wedding and the sites I saw made no mention of financial support.
What do you guys think? If I agree, will I be expected to cough up large amounts of money? If I decline, will that be an insult to the family?Normally a wedding sponsor is not expected to cough of large amounts of money. The term sponsor is just a bit unlucky. It has more to do with giving guidance and assistance to the couple or as being part of the marriage ceremony, than anything financial.
The principal attendants are known as 'sponsors'; male sponsors are ninongs and female sponsors are ninangs. In the Philippines, the number of sponsors can be just a single couple or numerous sponsors, perhaps as many as two dozen. They are women and men whom the bride and groom respect and admire, perhaps aunts and uncles or close friends of the family. As in the early days of the Church, the sponsors attest to the couple's readiness for marriage and freedom to marry. In the Philippines, they are also the official State witnesses and sign the marriage licence. Worldwide, their participation is symbolic of the wisdom and support they will offer the new couple. The Principal sponsors are part of the bridal procession. It's an honour to be asked and a sign of respect from the family to you and your gf, as I expect her to be asked too. Maybe not insulted but I guess they will be a bit disappointed.
Normally a wedding sponsor is not expected to cough of large amounts of money. The term sponsor is just a bit unlucky. It has more to do with giving guidance and assistance to the couple or as being part of the marriage ceremony, than anything financial.
It's an honour to be asked and a sign of respect from the family to you and your gf, as I expect her to be asked too. Maybe not insulted but I guess they will be a bit disappointed.
Many thanks for the insight. After reading all about scams etc I was just a bit suspicious.
Of course, the gf may see it as an indication of my feelings towards her which is also something to be taken into account!
Blackangst
11-05-08, 07:41
hello,
i realize that it's hard to generalise about a whole population of women but i was wondering how the culture of the pi affects filipinas sexual performance. i've yet to visit the pi. i've been to thailand a handful of times and though i like the women there it annoys me how they tend to act all shy and timid when it's time to do the deed. i know that it's a cultural thing in asia for the ladies to be modest but i like women that are more aggressive in the sack.
since the pi has some latin influence i'm hoping that filipinas possess more of that passion that i'm used to. my primary stomping ground is brazil. where it's not uncommon for a chick to practically [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) you in bed.
any advice on how filipnas are? passive? aggressive? at least as good as the thais?
dsk
now here is a can of worms.
*in general* thai's are ice queens compared to filipinas. they are very sexual by nature. odd, coming from a country with a 95% catholic background. but it is what it is. you will read many stories of guys falling for a girl after one night....thats their nature. very warm and friendly.
and some will rim you too. aggressive enough?
Radical Guy
11-05-08, 18:09
my primary stomping ground is brazil. where it's not uncommon for a chick to practically [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) you in bed.
any advice on how filipnas are? passive? aggressive? at least as good as the thais?
dski used to be a monger, but married a 23-year-old beauty from davao two years ago, and have been happily faithful ever since. i visit this forum just for old times sake.
anyway, to answer your question, my filipina wife, maricel, has a sex drive that just won't quit. i'm happy making love maybe 3-4 times a week, but maricel wants it 2-3 times a day! often, if i am too tired, maricel won't take no for an answer and practically [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124) me. if i don't have the energy, maricel sometimes feels hurt and thinks my desire for her is decreasing, so i often quench her needs by going down on her until she cums.
marical delights in waking me up in the middle of the night with a blow job, or sometimes she stops my snoring by smothering my face with her wet pussy. (it's a trip waking up with my nose inside her snatch! ) her favorite position is when she is on top, "driving" me (her term) and taking control. in other words, maricel is quite aggressive sexually, to say the least.
interestingly, when maricel is at work or in public, she is very conservative, quiet, and demur--the stereotypical asian lady. nobody would ever imagine what she is like behind closed doors.
i don't know where maricel learned to be so sexual, as she was a virgin when we met. (i know this for a fact.) i think it's something in her genes. in any case, even if i had the desire to monger again, i wouldn't have any energy left.
radical guy
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Marconista
11-05-08, 23:55
I think the reason can be as simple as she is "selosa" jealous, and this way, you will be to exhausted to go hunting elsewhere :D
I used to be a monger, but married a 23-year-old beauty from Davao two years ago, and have been happily faithful ever since. I visit this forum just for old times sake.
Anyway, to answer your question, my Filipina wife, Maricel, has a sex drive that just won't quit. I'm happy making love maybe 3-4 times a week, but Maricel wants it 2-3 times a day!
I don't know where Maricel learned to be so sexual, as she was a virgin when we met. (I know this for a fact.) I think it's something in her genes. In any case, even if I had the desire to monger again, I wouldn't have any energy left.
Radical Guy
I used to be a monger, but married a 23-year-old beauty from Davao two years ago, and have been happily faithful ever since. I visit this forum just for old times sake.
Good to hear a happy in progress story that will continue that way.
Wizard
offcourse she is horny most young girls that age only think about 1 thing weather they are from the philippines or elsewhere thats natural. especielly if she was a virgin before. i'm also married to a filipina 21 years old from bohol since last year. she is just the same. always horny i could easily fuck her 4-5 times /day and the days we don't have sex she complains. she be practically [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) me a lot of the times. i actually can't keep up with her and i'm not even 30 yet.
[quote=radical guy]i used to be a monger, but married a 23-year-old beauty from davao two years ago, and have been happily faithful ever since. i visit this forum just for old times sake.
anyway, to answer your question, my filipina wife, maricel, has a sex drive that just won't quit. i'm happy making love maybe 3-4 times a week, but maricel wants it 2-3 times a day! often, if i am too tired, maricel won't take no for an answer and practically [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124) me. if i don't have the energy, maricel sometimes feels hurt and thinks my desire for her is decreasing, so i often quench her needs by going down on her until she cums.
i used to be a monger, but married a 23-year-old beauty from davao two years ago, and have been happily faithful ever since. i visit this forum just for old times sake.
anyway, to answer your question, my filipina wife, maricel, has a sex drive that just won't quit. i'm happy making love maybe 3-4 times a week, but maricel wants it 2-3 times a day! often, if i am too tired, maricel won't take no for an answer and practically [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124) me. if i don't have the energy, maricel sometimes feels hurt and thinks my desire for her is decreasing, so i often quench her needs by going down on her until she cums.
marical delights in waking me up in the middle of the night with a blow job, or sometimes she stops my snoring by smothering my face with her wet pussy. (it's a trip waking up with my nose inside her snatch! ) her favorite position is when she is on top, "driving" me (her term) and taking control. in other words, maricel is quite aggressive sexually, to say the least.
interestingly, when maricel is at work or in public, she is very conservative, quiet, and demur--the stereotypical asian lady. nobody would ever imagine what she is like behind closed doors.
i don't know where maricel learned to be so sexual, as she was a virgin when we met. (i know this for a fact.) i think it's something in her genes. in any case, even if i had the desire to monger again, i wouldn't have any energy left.
radical guy
that’s been my experience with every non-pro filipina. they are for the most part sexually charged. they have killed me in the sack then they get offended if you tell them you are tired and i still got a couple of years left before i hit 30.
i think the reason can be as simple as she is "selosa" jealous, and this way, you will be to exhausted to go hunting elsewhere :d
i thought about this too. maybe it’s some strategy to keep you in the house my ltr has been using this of late and i have to admit its working.
Wicked Roger
11-06-08, 15:05
i used to be a monger, but married a 23-year-old beauty from davao two years ago, and have been happily faithful ever since. i visit this forum just for old times sake.
anyway, to answer your question, my filipina wife, maricel, has a sex drive that just won't quit. i'm happy making love maybe 3-4 times a week, but maricel wants it 2-3 times a day! often, if i am too tired, maricel won't take no for an answer and practically [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124) me. if i don't have the energy, maricel sometimes feels hurt and thinks my desire for her is decreasing, so i often quench her needs by going down on her until she cums.
marical delights in waking me up in the middle of the night with a blow job, or sometimes she stops my snoring by smothering my face with her wet pussy. (it's a trip waking up with my nose inside her snatch! ) her favorite position is when she is on top, "driving" me (her term) and taking control. in other words, maricel is quite aggressive sexually, to say the least.
interestingly, when maricel is at work or in public, she is very conservative, quiet, and demur--the stereotypical asian lady. nobody would ever imagine what she is like behind closed doors.
i don't know where maricel learned to be so sexual, as she was a virgin when we met. (i know this for a fact.) i think it's something in her genes. in any case, even if i had the desire to monger again, i wouldn't have any energy left.
radical guy
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rd
teach her to 'swing' as a few of my friends in the philippines have done with their wives and then you will get a rest and some lovely threesomes and orgies. trust me, once they are hooked and you have managed to convince her you are not jealous and she cant be jealous as "you love her so much and it is just for fun and this is juts satisfying her needs as you are a good and loving husband.....", then you will have even more fun :d
trust me, as some of the girls i have known/know here are now into this, very liberal, one even asks for more sex toys and greek and dp at times - she was a good catholic girl before she met me :d
and as others have said, maybe a way to make sure you are too exhausted to look elsewhere
but, on the flip side, i know one filipina, married in us, 21, cute (friend of a friend) who only gets it once/twice a week. i have volunteered to relocate to usa to help her friend...and could come and help you if you like rd (am sure many of the isg fraternity would also offer if you are up for it .))
I don't know where Maricel learned to be so sexual, as she was a virgin when we met.
My gf was also a virgin (at age 27!) when we met and I asked her how she knew what to do to make me feel so good. She was very knowledgable for a virgin and also quite adventurous! She confessed that all her "knowledge" came from reading FHM magazine.
FreebieFan
11-07-08, 01:22
During a trip my girlfriend had with me some time back we did the schoolgirl thing. She got dressed up and we had lots of fun.
Last trip she said she wanted to suprise me. So she undressed me then went off to bedroom and got changed. When she came back, she had her hair all tied up, had glasses on, skirt and white shirt etc and high stilettos.
She also tied me up. Then she placed me on the work table in hotel we were in. And she basically fucked me. Was lots of fun.
Later I asked her where she got this idea. Said from reading a back copy of FHM. This must be a good magazine!
Puerto La Cruz
11-07-08, 03:25
There are many magazines in the reception area of my office. My secretary always tells me that the first magazine that a woman picks up is Maxim. Gotta love a nice slutty girl.
My gf was also a virgin (at age 27!) when we met and I asked her how she knew what to do to make me feel so good. She was very knowledgable for a virgin and also quite adventurous! She confessed that all her "knowledge" came from reading FHM magazine.
I have still never ever seen an adult age Filipina virgin.
She confessed that all her "knowledge" came from reading FHM magazine.
For those that do not know, FHM has a Philippine edition. In fact I have the latest copy in hand celebrating their 100th issue. Almost a carbon copy of the American version, with minimal Tagalog.
AussieOverboard
11-07-08, 04:50
I have still never ever seen an adult age Filipina virgin.
Well Daddy Warbuck$ I have seen one, my Girlfriend was a virgin until I met her at 25.
I have to agree with previous comments, it didnt take her long to catch on and was soon taking delight in the two of us having sex in the room right next to her family at any time of day or night. Most of the time with her being the instigator.
I got very lucky with this one, even though family is poor etc etc, they never hit me up for money and when i do something for them (without being asked or even hinted at) they get very embaressed.
So they are out there but like the unicorn you just have to look real hard. Of course the only time i ever saw a unicorn I was under the influence.
Devilspinkick
11-07-08, 05:04
Well I certainly appreciate the input. Makes me feel better about making another trip to SEA. I like variety and love to check out different pools of chicas, but too many times I end up wishing I had gone to Brazil (or Germany) instead. Haven't purchased tickets yet but I plan to make my first trip to the PI next February.
DSK
FreebieFan
11-07-08, 05:37
Few years back when I lived in Manila, chatted with a girl who delighted in making sometimes romantic and sometimes red hot poetry ( poetry you say...well I will put up with a lot to get my jollies). Anyways figured she woul be an easy target as she seemed to be horny. Worked near Makati med in a dental office I remember.
Then one day in chat she tells me shes a 26 year old virgin. Would be happy to lose it but wanted to do it with a guy who cared.
We met a few times but I assessed that it would take a lot more time and care than I was willing to invest. No idea what happened to her. But clearly this species exists.
Read in UK online paper the other day about a 38 year old virgin.They did the article as it was obviously a rare condition. Girl said she was happy. Go figure.
They're out there. I met a couple of them online, then for real, during the time that I stayed in Manila for 2 months a couple of years back. I decided they were too much trouble because I only wanted to play and I didn't want to deal with the emotional baggage. I will say one of them was definite wife material had I been interested. That one was 33 years old while the other one was 25.
I've posted here before that I was offered a p4p virgin, a very pretty 18 year old who was willing to give it up for 50,000 pesos. I passed, not my style or my budget, but that action is out there too, just have to look for it.
Hairy Wonder
11-10-08, 14:38
This is off topic guys. Please bare with me for a moment.
I'm a Texas lawyer, and I do mostly family law. I highly recommend that you sign NOTHING until you have consulted with an experienced family lawyer.
RG,
Thanks for that bit of legal advice. I would really like to get more. I tried to PM you to request this, but a message popped up and said that you are unable to receive it. If possible, can you PM me?
I am very quickly tiring of this long ordeal. I have tried to be nice to my hopefully soon to be ex-wife for almost 3 years now. She has replied only with demands and threats. Please help me out here if you can. If not, please offer me some referals in the Killeen, TX area.
Thank you!
HW
Lustforthrust
11-10-08, 20:27
I've posted here before that I was offered a p4p virgin, a very pretty 18 year old who was willing to give it up for 50,000 pesos. I passed, not my style or my budget, but that action is out there too, just have to look for it.
That's nice but how does one verify she's a virgin.
FreebieFan
11-11-08, 00:59
That's nice but how does one verify she's a virgin.At the risk of stating the obvious, google " hymen"... that will tell you all you need to know.
AussieOverboard
11-11-08, 06:41
At the risk of stating the obvious, google " hymen"... that will tell you all you need to know.
Hymen or Hymenaeus was the god of marriage and the marriage feast or song. He is often depicted with a marriage feast torch in his hand. This god was the son of Aphrodite by Dionysus and therefore the full brother of Priapus. His attributes are referred to in the opening sections of Homer's Iliad as well as playing a part in Virgil's Aeneid. He is a character in both As You Like It and The Tempest by Shakespeare.
In Greek mythology he plays a prominent part as a subordinate character in certain cycles, for example: "Hymen had been called to bless with his presence the nuptials of Orpheus with Eurydice; but though he attended, he brought no happy omens with him. His very torch smoked and brought tears into their eyes. In coincidence with such prognostics, Eurydice, shortly after her marriage, while wandering with the nymphs, her companions, was seen by the shepherd Aristaeus, who was struck by her beauty and made advances to her." (Bulfinch's Mythology) Thus we see how the torches were part of a casting for omens at the feast with regard to the success of the marriage. He was also the personification of the wedding hymn (humnos) which made be the word from which the god's name derives.
FreebieFan
11-11-08, 09:26
Thank Aussie. You found the only reference ("www, pantheon.org I assume") that doesn't refer to the slim sliver of tissue that separates the virgins from the non virgins. All other google artlicles about said same hymen will help the reader understand its total relevance to the issue of virginity and whether one would know if the gilr was. Or wasn't.
Hairy Wonder
11-11-08, 15:53
At the risk of stating the obvious, google " hymen"... that will tell you all you need to know.
A quote from Wikipedia:
"From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
For other uses, see Hymen (disambiguation).
Hymen shown in a drawing from Gray's AnatomyThe hymen (also called maidenhead) is a fold of mucous membrane which surrounds or partially covers the external vaginal opening. It was also the name for the Greek god of marriage, "Hymenaios."[1][2] It forms part of the vulva, or external genitalia.[3][4] An English slang term is "cherry", as in "popping one's cherry" (losing one's virginity). However, it is not possible to confirm that a woman or post-pubescent girl is not a virgin by examining the hymen."
Take special note of the word "NOT" in the last sentence of the quote.
HW
Lustforthrust
11-11-08, 20:43
A quote from Wikipedia:
However, it is not possible to confirm that a woman or post-pubescent girl is not a virgin by examining the hymen."
Take special note of the word "NOT" in the last sentence of the quote.
HW
Indeed.
I thought everyone knew that. Especially mongers. I must be naive.
Hello All,
Would like to change the tone of the posts here and possibly start a new discussion. I previously thought the topic had been beat to death, and my decision was soundly in favor of one direction only, however, now I am not so sure. The topic is (groan) the bar girl vs. "good" girl debate. I know, I know, not another one of those right? But please read me out before you move on.
We all know the horror stories of those that have married bar girls (BG) or who have LTR with BG’s with disastrous results. I myself was dead set against the BG as a LTR, but after spending 5 days in Cebu with a "good" girl, BG’s are starting to look better and better. Girl in Cebu was from FH, 26, Registered Nurse with actual job, family with money, etc. Never let me pay for one thing while I was in Cebu except for the hotel and any extras like SML’s, going jet ski riding, stuff like that. Meals were split, and she paid for every cab, visits to the store, groceries, even island hopping. She had her own apartment which she shared and paid for with her hot roommate. She was pretty much the opposite of every Filipina I have ever met. She had three smoking hot sisters who were nurses also. Body was about a 7, face 7, attitude was 8, and LTR potential a 10. We fucked everyday twice a day, as she was always willing. GFE was almost too much at like a 11. 5 out of 10. So what is not to like huh? Well, there seemed to be an absence of wildness in the situation, sort of like being on vacation with a wife or something. And then there is the sex. Yea, it was good, what is not to like about a young 20 something Filipina? But I definitely had a problem with length and girth, and she could not really take it when going full throttle. I don’t know if BG’s are used to being pounded, or just don’t complain, but they always seem to take it without too much complaining. Plus you get to change positions, go deep when BBBJ, pull out and CIM or COF when with a nasty BG. I was reminded of when I lived in the US and went with strippers. You know they are bad for you, but oh so much fun. And it is kind of fun being bad di ba? Like a good cigar.
In the end, I still missed my babyko from AC, who I enjoy being with and fucking, but can’t stand the fact of the business she is in. I thought I could be mature enough to deal with it, but it always bothered me if I called her and she would not answer the phone. So I guess the question is, can you have it all?
Thoughts and comments welcome as always.
Hello All,
Would like to change the tone of the posts here and possibly start a new discussion. I previously thought the topic had been beat to death, and my decision was soundly in favor of one direction only, however, now I am not so sure. The topic is (groan) the bar girl vs. "good" girl debate. I know, I know, not another one of those right? But please read me out before you move on.
We all know the horror stories of those that have married bar girls (BG) or who have LTR with BG’s with disastrous results. I myself was dead set against the BG as a LTR, but after spending 5 days in Cebu with a "good" girl, BG’s are starting to look better and better. Girl in Cebu was from FH, 26, Registered Nurse with actual job, family with money, etc. Never let me pay for one thing while I was in Cebu except for the hotel and any extras like SML’s, going jet ski riding, stuff like that. Meals were split, and she paid for every cab, visits to the store, groceries, even island hopping. She had her own apartment which she shared and paid for with her hot roommate. She was pretty much the opposite of every Filipina I have ever met. She had three smoking hot sisters who were nurses also. Body was about a 7, face 7, attitude was 8, and LTR potential a 10. We fucked everyday twice a day, as she was always willing. GFE was almost too much at like a 11. 5 out of 10. So what is not to like huh? Well, there seemed to be an absence of wildness in the situation, sort of like being on vacation with a wife or something. And then there is the sex. Yea, it was good, what is not to like about a young 20 something Filipina? But I definitely had a problem with length and girth, and she could not really take it when going full throttle. I don’t know if BG’s are used to being pounded, or just don’t complain, but they always seem to take it without too much complaining. Plus you get to change positions, go deep when BBBJ, pull out and CIM or COF when with a nasty BG. I was reminded of when I lived in the US and went with strippers. You know they are bad for you, but oh so much fun. And it is kind of fun being bad di ba? Like a good cigar.
In the end, I still missed my babyko from AC, who I enjoy being with and fucking, but can’t stand the fact of the business she is in. I thought I could be mature enough to deal with it, but it always bothered me if I called her and she would not answer the phone. So I guess the question is, can you have it all?
Thoughts and comments welcome as always.
Damn dude you found a filipina with her own money....not just getting by I mean with her own bread...don't mind paying for shit in PI.... another Unicorn...
There have been a couple o fposts about virgins.
My two cents worth.
I have deflowered a number of virgins in the Phils, none for payment.
Youngest about 22, gorgeous, oldest about 35. I suspect that the gorrgeous one only wanted someone to help her get rid of her virginity, and wanted someone nice to do it for her.
There has been baggage from only one.
I did deflower a bargirl, but by mistake. I had asked the mamasan for a virgin, because I did not want sex that night, only company. However the girl misunderstood the situation, and went for it hard. In the end, she wore down my defences, and we fucked. Frequently, all night. She was ferocious.
Apparently she thought that she was going to get a bundle of money. We met next morning with my mate and his gf. His gf was asking the girl if she had done it. No clear reply.
I then had to take off for Manila. The bg went to the mamasan for her money and was enraged when there was no money. But the mamasan took her to a doctor, who certified that she was still a virgin.
So she went back on the market.
In general, I think that virgins come with too much responsibility, and I am never going to do it again. But I probably will.
G
Yea, girl blew me away. We actually got into an argument over her paying for stuff. Would not let me pay at all. However now, she is txting me, putting me in her friendster as we are "couple" in deep relationship, etc. Calls me crying today about why I don't return her calls. Fuck! Are these girls crazy over there or what? Jesus man, thought I found a good one and she turns out to be crazy. WTF? So, just stick to bar girls or what? I can't stand drama. I tell her to be cool and she starts crying again, asking if we are broken up, do I still like her, did I ever like her, etc. OMG right now thinking I should cut and run. Babyko in Angeles is cool as fuck.
Damn dude you found a filipina with her own money....not just getting by I mean with her own bread...don't mind paying for shit in PI.... another Unicorn...
They're not common at all, but they do exist. I met one in her mid 30's who had come from a well-to-do family and had been married to a foreigner and long since divorced. Not remembering what she did for a living. She owned a house in Alabang and a couple of condos elsewhere, she drove an SUV, she had a live-in housekeeper to help with her kids, she had a driver for when she wanted to make the trip into Manila, she paid for our (expensive) dinner, etc. She was friendly, not bad looking, I liked her, but there was not a lot of chemistry between us. Anyway, the only girl I met in the RP who was likely worth more than me...
They're not common at all, but they do exist. I met one in her mid 30's who had come from a well-to-do family and had been married to a foreigner and long since divorced. Not remembering what she did for a living. She owned a house in Alabang and a couple of condos elsewhere, she drove an SUV, she had a live-in housekeeper to help with her kids, she had a driver for when she wanted to make the trip into Manila, she paid for our (expensive) dinner, etc. She was friendly, not bad looking, I liked her, but there was not a lot of chemistry between us. Anyway, the only girl I met in the RP who was likely worth more than me...
You don’t just say fuck you to Halley’s comet. I am sorry if I ever found a Filipina who was young didn't look bad and was worth more then the clothes on her back I would stick with her guess I be hanging out at the wrong fucking places :(
FreebieFan
11-13-08, 00:54
You want to see moneyed ladies. Go check out Alabang town center and see the young chikkas getting out of Daddys' car. They got more than you andme put together. Of course their Daddy (not you LOL) generally has a house in Alabang (Ayala Alabang not the cheaper Alabang hills parts). A few companies and some good connections.
Burgos street most certainly isn't where the money is.
Alternately go look at some of the office in Yuchengko centre and hang around the PSE building on Ayala avenue. Lots of up and coming ladies with businesses. To look for money go to where the money is.
Theres plenty of Filipinas who own houses, have degrees from overseas (often US) schools, and take vacations in Europe twice a year with the odd shopping trip to HK. Go sit in the Cathay business and first class lounge at NAIA airport and you will see all these. Its all about being in the right place.
But some of us. Like it down and dirty. Much easier to hit the honey pot. Hahahah
You want to see moneyed ladies. Go check out Alabang town center and see the young chikkas getting out of Daddys' car. They got more than you andme put together. Of course their Daddy (not you LOL) generally has a house in Alabang (Ayala Alabang not the cheaper Alabang hills parts). A few companies and some good connections.
Burgos street most certainly isn't where the money is.
Alternately go look at some of the office in Yuchengko centre and hang around the PSE building on Ayala avenue. Lots of up and coming ladies with businesses. To look for money go to where the money is.
Theres plenty of Filipinas who own houses, have degrees from overseas (often US) schools, and take vacations in Europe twice a year with the odd shopping trip to HK. Go sit in the Cathay business and first class lounge at NAIA airport and you will see all these. Its all about being in the right place.
But some of us. Like it down and dirty. Much easier to hit the honey pot. Hahahah
Maybe I need to rephrase the statement I have seen them but just not have been able to become involved with one have not made any effort either. I go to the gym in Alabang where my town house is. Also I know a Filipina in Japan who is worth about 400 stacks http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=stack in liquid assets and about over another 200 stacks in property :) She is my LTR’s cousin who gave me assistance on buying my townhouse here.
You don’t just say fuck you to Halley’s comet. I am sorry if I ever found a Filipina who was young didn't look bad and was worth more then the clothes on her back I would stick with her guess I be hanging out at the wrong fucking places :(
Halley's comet, that's funny, DW, appreciate the lighter moment...
The other posters are spot on about Alabang and its Town Center. And spot on about going where the money is. Another subdivision area that has some moneyed filipinos is BF Homes in Paranaque/Las Pinas. There are a couple of really expensive condo buildings in Makati where top end condos go for Php 30m to 50m. I seem to recall hearing of other areas/subdivisions around Manila with rich filipinos in them, but I've never been so I can't say for sure where they are. You can find them shopping at Rockwell mall in Makati; I think that is about the most up-scale mall I've been to.
Khun Larry
11-13-08, 19:34
I suspect these hiso babes are not worth the time and effort to bed. Same basic pussy as the poor girls, what is the attraction.
ChiefThinker
11-13-08, 20:35
Just a quick question for the seasoned mongers in both PI & LOS.
I will be in HKG with the opportunity to visit either BKK or Manila for 3-4 days next week.
I have been to LOS 4 times but never to Manila but have met and played with many a PI lady in HKG.
So the question is..should I just go to BKK or should I venture to Manila and see it first hand. If it makes any difference..I will be travelling alone and without my wingman. Should I make a recon mission? Any MUST see/do in PI for such a short period of time?
Any pros/cons that make 1 better than the other. It seems from RTFF and my LOS experience that the prices are about the same for room/board and companionship. So I am looking for your esteemed opinion on which you think is better and why, or if it is really just 6 of this or half a dozen of that.
Thanks in advance for any insight(s) you can give me.
CT
....That's news to me also. I'm a Yella Brotha, hence the name Yella Man, and I don't have much problem hooking up with 7-10's in the Phils. Hell, I could be a 90 years old, one eyed, no legged gimp (no offense meant if you really are one) and still get some play off of some of the girls in the Phils. Sure, some of them have a preference, but the almighty $$$ and their basic survival instincts usually over rule preference. It's all about economics.
Still Skinning Them Up!
Yella Man
I always take a little time to read and learn "up" on the culture of a country before I visit and in this case live. If you don’t know about colonial effects the Spanish had on this country and the creation of the “white is right” phenomenon then you have not done your home work. Most of all the actors and people in positions of power have fair skin. Most Filipinos I have met outside the Philippines have very perverse attitudes towards blacks. Lazy, violent is only a small fraction of what I have heard. My GF of 2 years tells me everything that is said about or pertaining to blacks when she is in earshot. I had two Filipinos one a co-worker in Kabul but now naturalized citizen of the USA tell me black people are bad. I had one accountant I met online in Cebu tell me the same. When I confronted them with why is the Philippines on the US State department list as one of the most dangerous travel destinations they both came up with some lame excuse to defend their country.
That being said yes it still is easier for me to meet women here than in the US but I am just losing my desire for the ones who don’t got a pot to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in and a window to throw it of. If you date or keep a fling that is broke more than likely her overall motivation for being involved with you is money. That’s fun and all but all that comes down to is another form of Pay for Play. While I know there are guys who say you pay for pussy no matter what I and I do believe this is true it’s nice to spend some time with woman who can buy her own damn cell phone which is such a popular sugar daddy gift now and days.
Hairy Wonder
11-14-08, 09:03
I always take a little time to read and learn "up" on the culture of a country before I visit and in this case live. If you don’t know about colonial effects the Spanish had on this country and the creation of the “white is right” phenomenon then you have not done your home work. Most of all the actors and people in positions of power have fair skin. Most Filipinos I have met outside the Philippines have very perverse attitudes towards blacks. Lazy, violent is only a small fraction of what I have heard. My GF of 2 years tells me everything that is said about or pertaining to blacks when she is in earshot. I had two Filipinos one a co-worker in Kabul but now naturalized citizen of the USA tell me black people are bad. I had one accountant I met online in Cebu tell me the same. When I confronted them with why is the Philippines on the US State department list as one of the most dangerous travel destinations they both came up with some lame accuse to defend their country.
That being said yes it still is easier for me to meet women here than in the US but I am just losing my desire for the ones who don’t got a pot to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in and a window to throw it of. If you date or keep a fling that is broke more than likely her overall motivation for being involved with you is money. That’s fun and all but all that comes down to is another form of Pay for Play. While I know there are guys who say you pay for pussy no matter what I and I do believe this is true it’s nice to spend some time with woman who can buy her own damn cell phone which is such a popular sugar daddy gift now and days.
DW,
Being a white guy, I know that I don't have the same perspective on things that a black man would have. But I am sure that the way that most movies and TV programs portray blacks has a lot to do with how people view black Americans all around the world. I have black friends and co-workers that I feel I can trust much more than many whites or Asians. I feel that the generalization of people is wrong. You can't judge the character of a person just by their skin color.
I was asked if I would not vote for Obama in the recent elections, because of his skin color. My response was that I don't care about the color of his skin, rather what his capabilities are. I think that elections should be done much like an online job application. Don't do all the campaigning to get your face in front of everyone. Simply post your resume, absent of any mention of race, color, sex (gender that is :D ). And let the people select the best qualified candidate from that. I think that many people in America voted during this election in order to feel like they were making history, and not because their choice was the best qualified. That being said, I have no doubt that President Elect Obama will serve his country well. After all, how much worse can it get after father and son Bush, and Clinton?
Thanks for the history lesson on the PI, by the way. I am one of those that you mentioned, "not doing his homework."
HW
GoodEnough
11-14-08, 16:05
Filipinas probably spend more collectively on skin "whiteners" than any other people on the face of the earth. DW is absolutely correct. On the continuum of color, the whiter or paler you are, the better your adjudged to be and, if you're mestiza, you've won the gold ring. This obsession with whiteness is deeply ingrained from colonial times, and it ain't going away any time soon. Not only are many (perhaps most) of the most powerful politicians whiter than others, but so are the scions of the most successful business families..at least those who aren't Chinese. Whoever said that this is the most colonized country in the world was correct. Another problem of course is that the public education system basically perpetuates this mentality, and, since it does not encourage thought so much as it does rote memorization, the concept isn't going to evaporate overnight.
On the other hand Obama's election was followed widely here, and covered extensively both by the broadcast and print media. Perhaps the fact that the country most idolized and aped by Filipinos actually elected an African American will do more to cause Filipinos to question the legitimacy of the whole color=human worth equation than anything else.
As to chasing women who can actually afford a cell phone, I think DW's point is well taken. The fact is that competent women are more likely to be decently educated and you may even be able to have an intelligent conversation with them. They may, for example, have actually read books. The constant chase after uneducated pussy, be they P4P or no, gets tiresome after a while if you live here. There's only so much time you can spend in bed and sooner or later, you're probably going to have to actually talk to someone in entire paragraphs that contain, perhaps, complex sentences. It's nice to find women who are capable of doing this.
GE
You mentioned Obama I just have to say one thing about that. There was a worldwide survey done in 70 countries about who they wanted to see elected as US president and the majority in 68 countries voted obama except 2 countries, Philippines and Georgia. Georgia I can understand becos they feel that McCain can help them more against the russians but Philippines. I suspect a lot of the filipinos who participated in this survey didn't know so much about Obama and McCain. So their votes was probabley based on the appearance.
Filipinas probably spend more collectively on skin "whiteners" than any other people on the face of the earth. DW is absolutely correct. On the continuum of color, the whiter or paler you are, the better your adjudged to be and, if you're mestiza, you've won the gold ring. This obsession with whiteness is deeply ingrained from colonial times, and it ain't going away any time soon. Not only are many (perhaps most) of the most powerful politicians whiter than others, but so are the scions of the most successful business families..at least those who aren't Chinese. Whoever said that this is the most colonized country in the world was correct. Another problem of course is that the public education system basically perpetuates this mentality, and, since it does not encourage thought so much as it does rote memorization, the concept isn't going to evaporate overnight.
On the other hand Obama's election was followed widely here, and covered extensively both by the broadcast and print media. Perhaps the fact that the country most idolized and aped by Filipinos actually elected an African American will do more to cause Filipinos to question the legitimacy of the whole color=human worth equation than anything else.
As to chasing women who can actually afford a cell phone, I think DW's point is well taken. The fact is that competent women are more likely to be decently educated and you may even be able to have an intelligent conversation with them. They may, for example, have actually read books. The constant chase after uneducated pussy, be they P4P or no, gets tiresome after a while if you live here. There's only so much time you can spend in bed and sooner or later, you're probably going to have to actually talk to someone in entire paragraphs that contain, perhaps, complex sentences. It's nice to find women who are capable of doing this.
GE
Khun Larry
11-14-08, 18:04
I will be in HKG with the opportunity to visit either BKK or Manila for 3-4 days next week.
CT
For sure BKK is more fun and everything is at your fingertips. Makiti is shit compared to Bangkok. IMO the Filipina are much hotter in bed and it is easier to find a find a girl that is less than 100% HO In Thailand everyone is either a HO or a pimp - few exceptions.
Check if you can fly directly into Manila and return from clark, (better than vise versa for getting to airport) if so then I would say go Philippines. City State Hotel, hit the LA Cafe both in Ermita section of Manila and stay at the Orchid Inn in Angeles. Bus to Angeles departs from noon Swagmans, couple of hours.
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....Before we were rudely interrupted.... would be interesting to see where you got your info from send me a PM.
....Before we were rudely interrupted.... would be interesting to see where you got your info from send me a PM.nfortunatley I can't send private message but the report is available online on nydailynews
....Before we were rudely interrupted.... would be interesting to see where you got your info from send me a PM.Here is the link
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/10/21/2008-10-21_global_survey_shows_world_citizens_prefe.html
You show me any politician running for office who really makes a difference about anything, I'll show you a unicorn.
Common guys, stop this elementary shit!
Most realistic people in this world don't give a shit who is the president of any country. I would vote if there is an election to replace my boss, but other than that, I don't have time for stupid, self-fish, egotistic politicians.
You show me any politician running for office who really makes a difference about anything, I'll show you a unicorn.
Common guys, stop this elementary shit!
Most realistic people in this world don't give a shit who is the president of any country. I would vote if there is an election to replace my boss, but other than that, I don't have time for stupid, self-fish, egotistic politicians.I agree with that sir....we were out of topic.
As I sit here waxing poetic about Filipinas-Opinions and Advice, after some boring research I have come to an epiphany about the small, elusive mammal known as "pinay". The first is the frustration that many westerners feel when they are answered yes to a question posed about anything. To westerners this might be seen as little white lies, in the discourse to avoid any unpleasantness caused during the interpersonal relationship. It seems yes can mean anything from a Filipino. Yes can mean: I’m not sure, maybe, or I don’t think I can do that but I don’t want to say no to you. The Filipino anticipates and gives an expected answer in order to avoid a negative reply. This is what I assume means when you ask a bar girl a ‘how much’ for services rendered and you get the answer "it’s up to you". It is all about personal relationships and saving face. Other ways of saying no without saying it could be: if you say so, we’ll see, I don’t know, I will make an effort, or the obvious lifting eyebrows without comment.
This concept ties in with the importance of family and kinship. As most BG’s come from the province, or are at least tied to family in the province, they still feel some form of obligation to the family or family name. I think in the barrios, family honor means everything, and most BG’s are still cognizant of that fact. The Philippines is mostly a country made up of island communities, with each island having it own identity and series of values, as evident by the strong Muslim beliefs in the Sulu Archipelago to the mountains of Luzon. I think this is why the idea of central government is not taking hold; vastly different cultures without a unifying belief.
The idea of family commitment is why politics in the PI is also strange to a westerner. Filipinos respond to family ties, and politics have nothing to do with capabilities. If someone knows or is distantly related to a candidate, then they will vote for that candidate no matter what. There is also the repayment of debt, or "I owe you one". My guess is politics in the PI is all about doing favors and receiving repayment.
Kinship does not apply to outsiders. Tourists are fair game when it comes to pricing, however, should that same person be applied to a family (this is my friend/brother/whatever) then kinship should apply and they should get a fair price.
Westerners can avoid some hassles by using the go between. In order to avoid conflict, the outsider should employ a go between or "fixer". It has been stated on the board before how some guys got extended visas in 30 minutes and others it took 4 hours. Filipinos sitting at desks in government offices are less likely to deal with hassles or bureaucracy or having to say no to someone and thus seeming incompetent. Instead, they can have a go between and not lose face, and still complete the task. I imagine this is how business is done in the PI. Would be nice if Mamasan was on our side ALL the time, but many times not. Unless you know her and have a good relationship with her. A good go between in BG’s is often the friend/cousin/sister. How many times have you guys heard, "My friend likes you to bar fine her"?
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Blackangst
12-04-08, 20:19
As I sit here waxing poetic about Filipinas-Opinions and Advice, after some boring research I have come to an epiphany about the small, elusive mammal known as "pinay". The first is the frustration that many westerners feel when they are answered yes to a question posed about anything. To westerners this might be seen as little white lies, in the discourse to avoid any unpleasantness caused during the interpersonal relationship. It seems yes can mean anything from a Filipino. Yes can mean: I’m not sure, maybe, or I don’t think I can do that but I don’t want to say no to you. The Filipino anticipates and gives an expected answer in order to avoid a negative reply. This is what I assume means when you ask a bar girl a ‘how much’ for services rendered and you get the answer "it’s up to you". It is all about personal relationships and saving face. Other ways of saying no without saying it could be: if you say so, we’ll see, I don’t know, I will make an effort, or the obvious lifting eyebrows without comment.
This concept ties in with the importance of family and kinship. As most BG’s come from the province, or are at least tied to family in the province, they still feel some form of obligation to the family or family name. I think in the barrios, family honor means everything, and most BG’s are still cognizant of that fact. The Philippines is mostly a country made up of island communities, with each island having it own identity and series of values, as evident by the strong Muslim beliefs in the Sulu Archipelago to the mountains of Luzon. I think this is why the idea of central government is not taking hold; vastly different cultures without a unifying belief.
The idea of family commitment is why politics in the PI is also strange to a westerner. Filipinos respond to family ties, and politics have nothing to do with capabilities. If someone knows or is distantly related to a candidate, then they will vote for that candidate no matter what. There is also the repayment of debt, or "I owe you one". My guess is politics in the PI is all about doing favors and receiving repayment.
Kinship does not apply to outsiders. Tourists are fair game when it comes to pricing, however, should that same person be applied to a family (this is my friend/brother/whatever) then kinship should apply and they should get a fair price.
Westerners can avoid some hassles by using the go between. In order to avoid conflict, the outsider should employ a go between or "fixer". It has been stated on the board before how some guys got extended visas in 30 minutes and others it took 4 hours. Filipinos sitting at desks in government offices are less likely to deal with hassles or bureaucracy or having to say no to someone and thus seeming incompetent. Instead, they can have a go between and not lose face, and still complete the task. I imagine this is how business is done in the PI. Would be nice if Mamasan was on our side ALL the time, but many times not. Unless you know her and have a good relationship with her. A good go between in BG’s is often the friend/cousin/sister. How many times have you guys heard, "My friend likes you to bar fine her"?
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Having spent a good amount of time in the PI, and being married to a pinay, I can say you are spot on. I'd like to comment on this sentence: "the strong Muslim beliefs in the Sulu Archipelago to the mountains of Luzon"...you are talking about a small majority of filipinos here, and you may know this. The country, as most of us know, is 90+% Catholic, with the majority of Muslims being in the southern area of Mindanau. Youre pretty hard pressed to find a Muslim in Luzon.
But everything else you said is spot on. The idea of saving face and "I owe you one" in regards to family and friends is the driving force behind these girls. Everything they do is for their family. If you spend time in a place like Burgos or AC and ask 10 girls why they are working in a bar, I would bet at least 7/10 will say for their family. We take it for granted they say this, but under the exteriror *most* of these girls are still provincial girls with a deep, deep loyalty to their family. I WILL say this is a generality, but generalities are generally true :).
Blackangst
12-04-08, 20:30
Just a quick question for the seasoned mongers in both PI & LOS.
I will be in HKG with the opportunity to visit either BKK or Manila for 3-4 days next week.
I have been to LOS 4 times but never to Manila but have met and played with many a PI lady in HKG.
So the question is..should I just go to BKK or should I venture to Manila and see it first hand. If it makes any difference..I will be travelling alone and without my wingman. Should I make a recon mission? Any MUST see/do in PI for such a short period of time?
Any pros/cons that make 1 better than the other. It seems from RTFF and my LOS experience that the prices are about the same for room/board and companionship. So I am looking for your esteemed opinion on which you think is better and why, or if it is really just 6 of this or half a dozen of that.
Thanks in advance for any insight(s) you can give me.
CT
Chief: If your goal of the trip is to monger I would suggest heading straight to AC. There are a couple busses that run from Ermita to AC daily. Theres really only 4 things to do in AC: drink, eat, sleep, and monger. Thats about it. There are hundreds of girls. Whatever your fetish or taste, you will find it in AC all within a few blocks.
If you want to see some sights, Manila is OK, but you might want to look at Subic also. It really is a beautiful place with lots to do. And P4P is really growing there. One bar owner from AC sold his joint there (Kokomos) and opened a new place in Subic for this reason. I dont want to violate linking rules but if you Google Kokomos Subic you will find the info you need. Check it out.
Youre pretty hard pressed to find a Muslim in Luzon.
...That's the wrong buzzer. There are pockets of muslim communities all over Metro Manila.
My next door neighbor in my moderate subdivision was a Muslim. I remember walking out my crib and seeing his wife paying with their child with the scarf over her head. After being in and out of Afghanistan I was taken back by this. (After working in Afghanistan for the last four years let’s just say I don’t hold Muslims in a high light). I didn’t want to stay there anymore but came to my senses. That’s the same way some assholes behave when they see blacks have moved in next door. The guy recently sold the place to a young Pinoy and his family...Turns out the guy was self employed and his business was deteriorating. Tough economic times eh?
Darth Sushi
12-05-08, 05:26
Youre pretty hard pressed to find a Muslim in Luzon.
There's plenty in AC also and they may or may not dress just like christians... so you never know.
GoodEnough
12-05-08, 16:14
ChiefThinker, my advice is to stick with Bangkok, unless you're searching for more GFE sex with girls who speak some English. Aside from Greenbelt and a few other areas of Makati, Manila is a polluted shit hole of a city that hold nothing of interest for those who have traveled extensively.
Member #4351
12-05-08, 16:31
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/04/woman-swept-to-sea-during_n_148592.html
Having spent a good amount of time in the PI, and being married to a pinay, I can say you are spot on. I'd like to comment on this sentence: "the strong Muslim beliefs in the Sulu Archipelago to the mountains of Luzon"...you are talking about a small majority of filipinos here, and you may know this. The country, as most of us know, is 90+% Catholic, with the majority of Muslims being in the southern area of Mindanau. Youre pretty hard pressed to find a Muslim in Luzon.
But everything else you said is spot on. The idea of saving face and "I owe you one" in regards to family and friends is the driving force behind these girls. Everything they do is for their family. If you spend time in a place like Burgos or AC and ask 10 girls why they are working in a bar, I would bet at least 7/10 will say for their family. We take it for granted they say this, but under the exteriror *most* of these girls are still provincial girls with a deep, deep loyalty to their family. I WILL say this is a generality, but generalities are generally true :).
There's a Tagalog phrase that explains a lot about how filipinos and filipinas feel about their families: utang na loob. Strictly speaking, there isn't a straight translation to English as the meaning is embedded in their culture, but it has to do with the sense of obligation that they feel toward their families and other superior figures in their society. If you google it, you'll get better explanations than I could give.
Darth Sushi
12-05-08, 18:32
There's a Tagalog phrase that explains a lot about how filipinos and filipinas feel about their families: utang na loob.UTANG = debt and LOOB = inside/within
UTANG = debt and LOOB = inside/within'Debt to my family' is how some girls explain it's meaning.
AV
GoodEnough
12-06-08, 18:15
Utang na loob doesn't really mean debt to the family. It's more of a debt of the heart (inside is right), and it's an obligation that's so deeply ingrained that it never goes away.
Philippines society works on a constantly-shifting network of obligations, and utang can be incurred by anyone in relation to anyone else. Certainly the deepest debt is to the parent (for the privilege of being born), and then to the siblings and extended families but the network expands constantly and changes all the time.
GE
AussieOverboard
12-19-08, 02:36
Kinship does not apply to outsiders. Tourists are fair game when it comes to pricing, however, should that same person be applied to a family (this is my friend/brother/whatever) then kinship should apply and they should get a fair price.\
Couldnt agree more on this. After spending some time in a small province on Bohol, the prices I paid for almost everything dropped dramatically once the locals learned I was married to one of their own.
I dont get upset at the inflated pricing charged, most things sold in sari sari stores etc only carry a 1 - 5 peso profit at best so is a few extra pesos can make a difference to someones life well so be it.
Read a sad story in the paper today. About a Filipina committing suicide as she arrived in Manila from the province only to find her husband fulfilling his sexual needs elsewhere.
It made me think about those poor Filipino guys who fuck the same girls we PAY to fuck….makes no sense. A prominent rapper once asked a question in one his songs. What is the definition of a player? The guy who is wealthy or in a position of power and attracts women this way or the guy who doesn't have a dollar to his name but still attracts women?
Spanish Main
01-01-09, 07:55
My girlfriend and I would like to spend a month living on the beach somewhere. We would also like a bisexual girl or two to live with us to share our fantasy of having a harem to have fun with. A non-stop feast of pleasure with good food, good wine and great sex.
Any advice on location, how to find the girls, prices and so on would be greatly appreciated.
My girlfriend and I would like to spend a month living on the beach somewhere. We would also like a bisexual girl or two to live with us to share our fantasy of having a harem to have fun with. A non-stop feast of pleasure with good food, good wine and great sex.
Any advice on location, how to find the girls, prices and so on would be greatly appreciated.
You may want to research the beaches of Boracay. Its a tourist area with a lot of potential things you may want to do. Another great location is Cebu and Davao. You can get them cheap and most of them will tend to agree on your fantasies. Going closer to Luzon or Manila will minimize your chances. You can try Subic bay in Luzon but its going to be hard.
Enjoy you stay.
Tabolitz
Cunning Stunt
01-01-09, 09:26
My girlfriend and I would like to spend a month living on the beach somewhere. We would also like a bisexual girl or two to live with us to share our fantasy of having a harem to have fun with. A non-stop feast of pleasure with good food, good wine and great sex.
Any advice on location, how to find the girls, prices and so on would be greatly appreciated.
Sounds like the plot for an excellent wet dream, SM:D.
You will have little problem finding the beach (Philippines = 7,000+ islands), but you may find it a little harder finding a Pinay bisexual or two to share your desert island fantasy. There doesn't seem to be many Filipina's around who openly admit to be bi. You will certainly find more girls to fit your requirements in Thailand than here.
That said, I do know a couple of genuine bi's, but being party animals, I doubt whether they would enjoy being stuck on a isolated beach, out of circulation, for a month. However if you decided on Boracay, they might just be interested, if you made it worth their while.
PM me if you want further details. GH
FreebieFan
01-02-09, 03:18
Reminds me of a bus trip I took a long time ago from outside Heritage Hotel to Puerto Azul.
We set off and conducter came round to collect the fares.
Price for my wife was something like P150 peso, and price for me (being clearly foreign) was P500.
My wife being Filipina was horrified that her husband was being ripped off so blatantly. Conductor dumbly stated that the price for my "seat" was P500. So we switched seats. Poor guy had no justification in his argument with my wife as to why I should be paying so much more. She ended the conversation by stating that she hoped if the conductor and whoever ran the bus company ever got out of the Philippines, that he would be mercilessly ripped off in whatever country he was in based on the colour of his skin. Rest of passengers applauded I remember. We took the trip back via another bus company. Each of us paying exactly the same fare as the other.
Blackangst
01-02-09, 05:02
My girlfriend and I would like to spend a month living on the beach somewhere. We would also like a bisexual girl or two to live with us to share our fantasy of having a harem to have fun with. A non-stop feast of pleasure with good food, good wine and great sex.
Any advice on location, how to find the girls, prices and so on would be greatly appreciated.
Hey you double posted in two sections! hehe
I gave my opinion in the general section to your question.
Cunning Stunt
01-06-09, 05:32
I know she is not a Filipina but when I read the story I thought that is the kind of thing a scorned Pinay might try. If you play around, hide the lighter fuel :D.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24877650-5006787,00.html
This is a story about a Japanese guy who visited and rented one of our aprtments outside Manila this past few weeks.
His gf is filipina whom he met in Japan 3 years earlier. Hes been sending her money and has visited several times.
His GF rented our apt for 4000 peso for 3 weeks. Then loaded the place with tv, fridge furniture etc all on the BF's tab. (told BF it was 10,000)
Things seemed cool the Japanese played cards with my father in law and all seemed well. Except she has lesbian GF and gay ladyboy posing as her relatives, all hanging out and leaching from Japanese guy. He gets wind that they ripping him off and hides his cash.
They go balistic and attack him and lay a beating on his ass, they then try to enlist the neighbours to extort money from him and have got their local police contacts assisting them.
Fortunately for the Japanese my father in law shows up and pulls the gays off him and intervenes with the police using the Barangay official and the neighbours, standing up and give evidence. The police had taken him into custody but they were able to get him out.
Hes now getting death threats etc. He was shaking like a leaf. Lucky for him he is in heighbourhood of decent people and a neighbour who could speak Japanese. Turns out this scam artist has 3 bf's all sending money. This could have turned out alot worse for this guy. Moral of the story. Be careful and don't send money unless you really know who you are dealing with.
Be safe
Starchild2012
01-12-09, 10:25
I know she is not a Filipina but when I read the story I thought that is the kind of thing a scorned Pinay might try. If you play around, hide the lighter fuel :D.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24877650-5006787,00.html
Good God...She is an Indian women...Rajini Narayanan..High Caste from southern part of India...I just wrote in Living in the Philiphines thread how we Indian men suffer forcefull marriage due to our customs and had to endure Indian women for life for that reason we monger and run away to the Philiphines..:)
Guys...you dont wanna know how much an Indian guy suffers in all front be it in marriage or going out mongering and facing descrimination....we are cock blocked in and out :)
For all Indian mongers, I say it again....Only place you would be respected is east asia more so in the Philiphines....There is no salvation on this earth for a horny Indian monger except Philiphines and east asian women.
4000 pesos for 3 weeks?
Is that per day or per week or per 3 weeks????
X
This is a story about a Japanese guy who visited and rented one of our aprtments outside Manila this past few weeks.
His gf is filipina whom he met in Japan 3 years earlier. Hes been sending her money and has visited several times.
His GF rented our apt for 4000 peso for 3 weeks. Then loaded the place with tv, fridge furniture etc all on the BF's tab. (told BF it was 10,000)
Things seemed cool the Japanese played cards with my father in law and all seemed well. Except she has lesbian GF and gay ladyboy posing as her relatives, all hanging out and leaching from Japanese guy. He gets wind that they ripping him off and hides his cash.
They go balistic and attack him and lay a beating on his ass, they then try to enlist the neighbours to extort money from him and have got their local police contacts assisting them.
Fortunately for the Japanese my father in law shows up and pulls the gays off him and intervenes with the police using the Barangay official and the neighbours, standing up and give evidence. The police had taken him into custody but they were able to get him out.
Hes now getting death threats etc. He was shaking like a leaf. Lucky for him he is in heighbourhood of decent people and a neighbour who could speak Japanese. Turns out this scam artist has 3 bf's all sending money. This could have turned out alot worse for this guy. Moral of the story. Be careful and don't send money unless you really know who you are dealing with.
Be safe
4000 pesos for 3 weeks?
Is that per day or per week or per 3 weeks????
XWe had just redone it and wanted longterm tenant so 4000 peso for 3 weeks plus security deposit. Which was needed for the damage the crazies did to the door an window screens.
This sounds too cheap for the usual travel destination - unless it is a dump.
I'm rather fond of the unusual travel destinations. Send me a pm.
I'll probably do the usual MNL / AC / Subic tour in March, but have several weeks to play with in July.
If it isn't already obvious, I'm not the longterm tenant you were hoping for.
X
We had just redone it and wanted longterm tenant so 4000 peso for 3 weeks plus security deposit. Which was needed for the damage the crazies did to the door an window screens.
This sounds too cheap for the usual travel destination - unless it is a dump.
I'm rather fond of the unusual travel destinations. Send me a pm.
I'll probably do the usual MNL / AC / Subic tour in March, but have several weeks to play with in July.
If it isn't already obvious, I'm not the longterm tenant you were hoping for.
XWe live with the locals. The apts are relatively new and pretty nice for local standards.
met a girl while back on ym an accountant in cebu who was highly intelligent. i mean her intelligence/ knowledge of things, foreign politics, personal finance etc and her grasp of the english language was nothing like i had ever seen from a filipina.
one thing though she was extremely naïve and desperate for a foreign husband or mate as most filipinas are from poor backgrounds but here is the catch this girl was not poor. she is a manager at a prominent call center company. the money she is earning is grandiose for a single filipina especially in cebu. she has her own apartment and is mortgaging a house she is having built from scratch.
naïve to it hurts
she let a bum filipino from manila take her virginity. then after that she met me. we chatted for months. i was about to go see her when something came up...she was furious. that something was my ole lady in manila. she had money and was persistent. so she found out about the ole lady and the house. she was heartbroken and told me she was suicidal. i never touched her or promised her anything.
after that we continued to chat then she went quiet. i managed to get down to cebu to see another filipina i was chatting with a nurse and i thought i would try to catch her. she ignored my calls my text messages and what not.
i am trying to find out what’s going on her friends would not talk would not say shit. i check her friendster page and there she is with some fat white, i am pretty sure american guy standing behind her. he looks too goofy to be any other nationality.
i contact another one of her friends and find out she married the guy. turns out she knew the guy all along from a business trip she took to the states a while back. i warned her about being so easy after she offered to meet in thailand and stay with me. i was little bit taking back by her willingness to travel to a foreign country to meet a stranger she even bought my plane ticket to cebu. (because my credit card wouldn’t work on their website) i told her what if i am an axe-murderer you don’t know do you? she was more concerned with me [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) her instead of killing her.... incredible.
so just like that after i fell out the picture she got married. they got married in april o8 now they are divorced turns out the guy was a nut job. a schizoid he accused her of stealing money, cheating on him etc… i mean a real work of art. she back right now here again chatting with me and heartbroken. i don’t know why but i am taking some type of morbid satisfaction in saying i told you so.
taken from yahoo messenger:
her: i should have taken my time choosing a husband.
her: i have so many regrets but things happen for a reason
her: he cheated on me 10 days after our wedding
her: yes but i am badly in debt right now
Freebie
I was taking the Weesam ferry from Ormoc back to Cebu city. I usually prefer to sit on the top deck which is open air.
On this particular trip I noticed a lady wearing what some call hot pants. I’ll nickname her HotPants - HP. She was about 30, about 5ft., average looking and wearing a loose fitting blouse. I assumed the loose blouse was covering a bit of chubbiness.
She was to my right, across the aisle. I also noticed that she was sitting very near a Filipino gentleman of about 40. Since there were plenty of empty seats all around I assumed the close proximity of their seats meant that they were together.
I walked out onto the back, outside of the seating area, and was taking a few pictures. Out comes a very cute young lady…unfortunately followed by what appeared to be a younger brother. I greeted her, but she was a bit cool so I left it at that. Soon she was gone.
When I returned to my seat, HP was in the row directly behind my seat looking out at the scenery. Her stuff was still to my right. She was kneeling on the seats with her head out the window, and her very cute rear end was up in the air. I tried not to stare since I suspect her man might get upset. I glanced over at the guy and he seemed to be asleep. I glanced back over at her rear end. Very nice. She spent at least half of the two-hour trip in the row behind be. I thought maybe her and the man were having a little spat.
I probably wouldn’t have given her too much attention if she was in an AC club, but she was certainly doable, and this was nice and unexpected. Philippines…life is good. Little did I know that it was about to get better.
Docked in Cebu, and I was wrestling with my bag which had been stowed up against the bulkhead. I looked up and much to my surprise HP and the gentleman (both with much smaller bags) seemed to part ways without a word. They weren’t together after all. Duh, she’d been waving her gear right there in the row behind me and I hadn’t said a word to her the whole trip. Oh well, live and learn.
Out at the taxi stand I tried to avoid the guys trying to help me carry my bag and then the guys trying to help me find a taxi. I know they’re just trying to make some money, but I prefer to keep my hands on my bags – thanks anyway.
I paused for a moment surveying the taxi queue….which was positioned a bit down the way since the taxis up front had been hailed already. The Supercat, which had an earlier scheduled departure actually arrived after the Weesam ship and their location at the next pier meant the taxis had no incentive to move up to where I was now standing. I cursed my luck …for about one second….because as my gaze moved from taxi to my immediate surroundings, there she was, hot pants was a walking my way. The stars had aligned!
“Where are you going?”, I inquired.
“Mango Avenue”
“Me too, would you like to share a taxi?”, and so we did.
It’s about a 30 or 40 min ride. In the taxi I made small talk with her, but didn’t want to make it obvious to the taxi driver that we didn’t know each other. That may have been good strategy considering what happened. Although it was very obvious that I could take care of myself and knew where I was going, she offered to accompany me to my hotel. She did this in a way to make it sound as if she was trying to help out a poor lost tourist. I think she mentioned safety, etc. I suppose she was saving face with the taxi driver, or maybe she was just offering up some good fun in a slightly indirect way. Who knows.
I had every intention of paying for my ride and more for her to get home. But she insisted on covering half and got out with me at Holiday Plaza on Ramos Ave. I did my check in and up to the room we went. It seemed a bit awkward since I only then asked for her name. I turned on the TV and then suggested she sit down. She found a comfy seat on the bed (ignoring the chairs) and I sat down next to her. A bit more small talk (one kid) and at one point she puts her hand on my leg. She immediately pulls it off as if she had committed some faux pas. Well, at this point I’m wondering if that nice ass in the air, in the row behind, hadn’t been looking for some attention two hours earlier as we were passing the Camotes. I pulled her over and kissed her and within minutes we were passionately tearing off our clothes and fucking like there was no tomorrow.
After showering, I ask her to write down her phone number and email. This is not really because I want to keep in contact, but because I’d completely forgotten her name. It’s kind of a situation where you have a smirk, but also feel a bit guilty. Guilty about forgetting her name, that is.
For the “freebie” crowd I’ve now saved 40pesos on the taxi.
Being the gentleman that I am, I suggested we get something to eat.
Actually, I was hungry and could have cared less if she joined me or not. She did and we ate and I paid for that. I made some excuse and offered to pay for her taxi, but she said she could walk. And she did, and so did I.
Call it a freebie if you want, that just makes it sound cheap. I’ll remember my Weesam Hot Pants Adventure for the rest of my life – which is more than I can say for most of my barfines.
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Charlie Horse
01-24-09, 01:35
Freebie...
Call it a freebie if you want, that just makes it sound cheap. I’ll remember my Weesam Hot Pants Adventure for the rest of my life – which is more than I can say for most of my barfines.
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Outstanding!
The guy I discussed in my last post was using her credit cards to go mongering. When I last talked to her she had a surplus of money and now she is in debt up to her eye balls. Lost her manager position because of the guy telling her she need to move to the states and now is starting from the bottom again. Dude where ever you are if you are reading this please do us all a favor and kill yourself.
I here are some random shit from my experiences dealing with the Pinays.I may have said some of this in other posts over time, sorry for any redundancies.
DATING SITES: As far as the three dating sites i used: I found the best for marriage minded was Cherry Blossoms. They do the best job of weeding out the scamers. I wait at least a few days after girl signs signs up to CB before sending her a note, this way if she is active, there is a good chance that she has not tried to scam other men already. They also are allowed many pictures, so you get a good sense of how she really looks, not just her best picture that is on the front profile. Another great thing is it keeps a log of who has visited your profile and more importantly to me, it tells you how many times they have visited your profile. If a girl visits your profile 10 times in a couples of days, she is really into you. If she only visits once, and never replies to you or gives you a generic greeting, she just ain't in to you.
For girls that are borderline hookers or more for fun, there is Date In Asia. It is free, and it is barely regulated. It only allows one picture and has the most gays by far. If you are in town and looking to hook up fast, I would recommend DAI.
I found Fillipina Heart to be in the middle ground between girls for play and for marriage/ LTR. It is similar to CB, but not as well regulated. Overall I have had my most fun with it. The cost is about $25 a month, give or take a few bucks, same as CB.
Any other good dating sites, especialy free?
CONDOMS: I was amazed at the lack of use. I was there for 3 months on the last trip. I did the deed with 11 girls including one pro, and only 1 requested I put a condom on. All the girls were aged between 20-25 and childless.(that's my target market). If these girls remember from my profile, I wrote that I did not want any children. Most of these girls had college degrees, I don't know why they did not demand a condom. They had only know me for a short time, so they had no Idea if I got them pregnant if I would just disregard them.
None of them new that I had a vasectomy before my trip, best $1000 investment I ever made.
LEG HAIR: I am against it. Saw too much off it. Ladies, please shave.
SEX AND LIES: Over the last 3 years I have had semi regular contact with about 15-18 Pinays. I think Dragon Slayer said something to the effect of "all pinays are liars, all of them". Yep, yours is not different. Really, she isn't.
There are so many ways to test their honesty, 90 percent of them lied to me when it came to past or present relationships. (the other 10 percent I just didn't care enough to inquire). they don't think it is lying when they are dishonest about sex, because there culture is so Conservative. Most of the girls that spent time with me in my hotel, believe their parents think they are still virgins.
FRIENDSTER: It is the number one visited site in the Philippines, even beating Yahoo and Google. 90% of the girls have it. Once you get some basic information about a girl, find her freindster profile, it will have a lot pictures and information about her. MOST of the information will be truthfull, because all her friends and family will be reading it on occasion, so they don't want to be lie too much on it. Friendster is a great way to check her pictures to see if there are a bunch with her and a local Pinoy. Also, you check out her friends, see if they are mostly skankks, gays, or foreign men.
THE FAMILY: If you are overly polite and bring a gift (even a small one) the family will love you and basically force the girl to pick you as her boy freind/ or fiancee. The local boys have no manners and no money. The majority of the fathers I met acted like THEY wanted to blow me after I was kind enoght to bring them $15 worth of hard liquar. I swear, most fathers were unemployed and alchoholics. All of the girls have a shit load of younger sibblings living at the house, so spend $10 on a variety of candy, and they will also tell your gf that you are the perfect match for her.
They say the best girls you will not meet on the internet, but at least it is a starting point for those of us who only have a short vacation planned.
James In Japan
01-25-09, 20:41
Great post BB! I've also found that there is a thin line between "not interested" and stalker. Seems the more educated they are the less likely they are to say they love you in the first few chats. Of course, every single one has said she is a virgin, but most eventually admitted that they met 'except my first time, I'm a virgin"
My issue with meeting the people they way you mentioned is the "ahh okies" as I call them. I have aa very low tolerance for that. Which I really should relax some, but I can't. I started my pre trip research (haha) a little early this time (5 weeks) so I could weed out those that have nothing to say ("ahhhh I seeeeeeee, okies". But man there are ALOT of them out there!
Anyways, great post!
Applesauce
01-26-09, 21:20
CONDOMS: I was amazed at the lack of use. I was there for 3 months on the last trip. I did the deed with 11 girls including one pro, and only 1 requested I put a condom on. All the girls were aged between 20-25 and childless.(that's my target market). If these girls remember from my profile, I wrote that I did not want any children. Most of these girls had college degrees, I don't know why they did not demand a condom. They had only know me for a short time, so they had no Idea if I got them pregnant if I would just disregard them.The Philippines is a Catholic country and Catholicism preaches no condom use but at the same time doesn't teach the consequences of sexual activity which results in a lot of teenage Filipino girls having condomless sex with their boyfriends and becoming pregnant. I have extended family who are Filipino and this is the case with their extended families in the Philippines.
great post bb! i've also found that there is a thin line between "not interested" and stalker. seems the more educated they are the less likely they are to say they love you in the first few chats. of course, every single one has said she is a virgin, but most eventually admitted that they met 'except my first time, i'm a virgin"
unicorn -a mythical animal usually depicted as a white horse with a single straight spiraled horn growing from its forehead.
been a lot of talk about virgins over the last few months. a filipina virgin of legal is age is something warbucks has never seen and i have been around filipinas in various countries for the last six years.
join warbucks on his quest to find one. not to fuck but really just to find one for general purpose. my travels have taken me from the go-gos of angeles (and will take me) to the jungles of davao. i have searched in the daytime with a flashlight and yet nothing.
met a sweet, cute little number from davao. a provincial “jungle” girl she had all the signs of a virgin. classic filipina demeanor. catholic school college girl outfit, very religious could not understand warbucks atheistic ways. somehow our last conversation turned to sex. now before she had told me she never had boyfriend. then she said she had one in manila who raped her. she didn’t want to but she agreed only because he promised to call her everyday :confused: this is the second filipina that has told me a story to this effect.
she asked was i ok with this or did i only want a virgin?
after she dropped this knowledge on me i felt let down not because i really cared about virginity or not it’s just that now i have to start my search all over again :(
Marconista
01-27-09, 23:39
Sorry for you DW, as I guess I got the last one 5 years ago :) .
A 29yo girl that I had known on/off for a few years already, and flirting with via email as she was a sales manager for one of the top resorts in the RP that I had visited a few times. She was 25 when I first met her and then devirginized her 4 years later.
I was not hitting on her, only being friendly.
One weekend I asked her to join me for scubadiving, we shared the same cabin, and I was mr. nice guy, again not hitting on her. But we discussed sex and she was curious about it. I noticed she was blushing a lot when we discussed it.
The following weekend - my last during that visit - she asked me to go to the cinema with her, and we went to my hotel for a coffee in the coffeeshop before she was to go home to QC. It became late, so I invited her to stay over - I could use the sofa while she the bed. However, no sofa in my room so we shared the bed - and it happened.
Whenever I am in Manila I call her and we have a night or two together during my 2-3 weeks stay. She knows that I am married, but she's in love, but I'm not. She is OK with being the querida at the age of 34. She loves sex, and claim that I am the only one she has been with. I like to believe her, as she is working 12-16 hours a day, 6 days a week.
Joking aside - the virgins are out there for you to find as well, but not by searching the net for her. When you befriend more regular filipinos, you will eventually find her among their friends.
My fFuBu friend has 6 close female friends, and 3 of them were virgins when married. I met 3 of her friends, and all were maganda. That is your regular girls - and there are millions of them - of legal age of cause.
Best of luck in your quest, or as they say; More Power :)
A Filipina virgin of legal is age is something Warbucks has never seen and I have been around Filipinas in various countries for the last six years.
Join Warbucks on his quest to find one. Not to fuck but really just to find one for general purpose. My travels have taken me from the Go-Gos of Angeles (and will take me) to the jungles of Davao. I have searched in the daytime with a flashlight and yet nothing.
FreebieFan
01-28-09, 01:01
Daddy,
Read my report from my Manila trip from last weekend. Met a 26 year old virgin. And she was ready to give it up. I just had no time.
Also, you will see that all my activities are around the Fort area. Mongering heaven!
Daddy,
Read my report from my Manila trip from last weekend. Met a 26 year old virgin. And she was ready to give it up. I just had no time.
Also, you will see that all my activities are around the Fort area. Mongering heaven!
Your activities around the Fort? I hope you are not talking about that Market /Market mall. I never have seen such rough looking Filipinos in my life, when I dropped into that place after checking out my new condo. It is right down the street. I thought I had been dropped back off in my old neighborhood in States looking at all the girls rude unsmiling and the guys wearing baggy clothes with their pants hanging off their ass giving me mean stares trying to intimidate untimidateable.
Maybe I am just use to shopping at the Greenbelt and Alabang don’t know :confused:
FreebieFan
01-28-09, 05:46
Your activities around the Fort? I hope you are not talking about that Market /Market mall. I never have seen such rough looking Filipinos in my life, when I dropped into that place after checking out my new condo. It is right down the street. I thought I had been dropped back off in my old neighborhood in States looking at all the girls dressed like sluts and the guys wearing baggy clothes with their pants hanging off their ass giving me mean stares trying to intimidate untimidateable.
Maybe I am just use to shopping at the Greenbelt and Alabang don’t know :confused:I arrange to meet them there.. most convenient to me as my condo is there...Only once picked up a gal from there.. was from Jag Jeans.
Check em out next time yr there!
Cunning Stunt
01-28-09, 10:46
I arrange to meet them there.. most convenient to me as my condo is there...Only once picked up a gal from there.. was from Jag Jeans.
Check em out next time yr there!
I also have a condo in the Fort area and Market2 is my local Mall. Just seems like an average Manila type mall to me with all the usual suspects. Certainly plenty of nice looking girls about when I've visited the place but I've always seemed to be too busy to have time to try any hook-ups there. However, this being the Philippines, I would not imagine it to be too difficult.
ShadowAxis
01-29-09, 02:10
Spent a lot of time at Market2 and consider it to be somewhat of a waste in terms of recruiting talent. Lots of bored teens. But have gotten the eye on occasion. Something about the place just doesn't feel right. The mall through Serendra is just too damn expensive. Any girl you meet there may have a low "go away potential. "
Basically, Rockwell and the Fort are on my no-go list for two reasons. 1st, it's among the wealthiest places in the country and any pussy there is likely to be expensive in more ways then you can possible imagine. 2nd, the folks who see you with some local movie star may get jealous and that is a clear violation of the keep a low profile rule. Remember, the senators coked out son who caps you with a. 45 out in front of Embassy will be on an all expense paid trip to Europe the next day. And return to the Philippines with all his sins forgiven in about 3 months.
Makati, while wealthy sees a lot of foreigners. Malate, while not so chic also sees a lot of foreigners. In these places you won't stand out too much. (though you are ALWAYS a target) Rockwell and the Fort are playgrounds for wealthy Filipinos. Who are a childish, pampered, and protected lot. I consider these people volatile and extremely dangerous.
I also have a condo in the Fort area and Market2 is my local Mall. Just seems like an average Manila type mall to me with all the usual suspects. Certainly plenty of nice looking girls about when I've visited the place but I've always seemed to be too busy to have time to try any hook-ups there. However, this being the Philippines, I would not imagine it to be too difficult.
Spent a lot of time at Market2 and consider it to be somewhat of a waste in terms of recruiting talent. Lots of bored teens. But have gotten the eye on occasion. Something about the place just doesn't feel right. The mall through Serendra is just too damn expensive. Any girl you meet there may have a low "go away potential. ".
That’s exactly what I thought about the Market Market place. Could be due to all the squatter areas near by. Most Filipinos take pride in their appearance especially the ones that hang out in Manila. I saw a lot guys wearing hip hop gear which is cool and all for (might make a few enemies by saying this) “Black American people.” When others wear it they just look ridiculous.
“Very observant” Gamahucher said that nothing is out of order with the mall compared to other places :confused: This is the same guy who said I am a target in PI because of my designer clothes when if you read Filipino newspapers as I do daily you will notice a trend with the criminals most of the time they attack college students, women, old ass foreign men in other words weak targets.
Makati, while wealthy sees a lot of foreigners. Malate, while not so chic also sees a lot of foreigners. In these places you won't stand out too much. (though you are ALWAYS a target) Rockwell and the Fort are playgrounds for wealthy Filipinos. Who are a childish, pampered, and protected lot. I consider these people volatile and extremely dangerous.
Did you hear about the incident at the golf course in Antipolo? What you said here describes that event perfectly.
Cunning Stunt
01-29-09, 12:02
“Very observant” Gamahucher said that nothing is out of order with the mall compared to other places :confused: This is the same guy who said I am a target in PI because of my designer clothes when if you read Filipino newspapers as I do daily you will notice a trend with the criminals most of the time they attack college students, women, old ass Asian and white men in other words weak targets.
Would appreciate it if you could refrain from misquoting me DW. If you read my post I actually said 'Just seems like an average Manila type mall to me with all the usual suspects', which it is, as far as I'm concerned. Of course, whereas I maybe see normal Filipino kids, you perhaps see something a little more sinister. But that is the difference between you and I.
If you are so concerned about 'squatters', why did you buy a condo so close to a squatter area? Squatters to me are poor, homeless folk struggling to make a living for themselves and their families. I am not referring to the lowlife scum you see begging in tourist areas. How do you see them? As vermin? That would be strange from a guy who never fails to remind us how he dragged himself up from the gutter by his bootstraps.
I will try to ignore you closing comments. From a professional black man who never fails to attack racial slurs and stereotyping, your opinion that white men are weak, almost verges on the bigoted.
If you are so concerned about 'squatters', why did you buy a condo so close to a squatter area? Squatters to me are poor, homeless folk struggling to make a living for themselves and their families. I am not referring to the lowlife scum you see begging in tourist areas. How do you see them? As vermin? That would be strange from a guy who never fails to remind us how he dragged himself up from the gutter by his bootstraps.
I will try to ignore you closing comments. From a professional black man who never fails to attack racial slurs and stereotyping, your opinion that white men are weak, almost verges on the bigoted.
I said old men. As in old men are weak targets for criminals. You seem to miss the whole OLD word :) I will remove the references to race since that offended you. Not being bigoted. Just using the information I gathered from the Philippine Inquirer which I read daily and personal knowledge gathered from over 5 years hanging around PI.
If I am being bigoted towards the elderly then so be it.
How do I see squatter people? I see me in them. While the notorious American ghetto from which I was bred doesn’t quite compare to the squatters of the Philippines it is not far from it.
I am not at all concerned about the squatters there. Just like what happened my old neighborhood due to gentrification they will be removed sooner or later.
What is 'it'? It is that you must assume that a Filipina is not telling the truth if her lips are moving. That might sound cynical but I assure you that I have had 25 years of exposure to Pinays and Thai's (same general mindset), so have had plenty of time and experience to form my opinions.
Is this not a stereotypical racist attack?
No hard feeling GH. I guess you pissed me off with your “These are the Losers” post on the Bangkok board because I knew you were referring to me and Nic Frenchy but I am going to leave this alone right about now.
Cunning Stunt
01-29-09, 16:42
Yes, now that you have edited your post (I referred to your original, unedited post which you can view as a quote in my report), I do see your meaning. I take it an 'old ass' black man would be safe from attack.
My comments about Thai and Filipina's were regarding nationality rather than race, but maybe you view them as synonymous. It was also meant to be tongue in cheek, but nonetheless, I will stand by these comments as long exposure to both Thai's and Filipina's, HAS, on the whole, made me extremely cynical as regards their verbal honesty. This is maybe just my opinion but from the tone of the many reports on this thread in particular, I doubt it.
Your final point, as you say, regards the Thai Forum, so I will ignore it unless you wish to take it up there.
No I have no hard feelings. These boards would soon become as boring as hell if we all had the same viewpoint and there were no disagreements. Its when they get personal, as has happened before with certain members, that the whole thing becomes sour and tedious for other board members.
Already boring as hell to hear your groveling.
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What a pusy
Yes, now that you have edited your post (I referred to your original, unedited post which you can view as a quote in my report), I do see your meaning. I take it an 'old ass' black man would be safe from attack.
My comments about Thai and Filipina's were regarding nationality rather than race, but maybe you view them as synonymous. It was also meant to be tongue in cheek, but nonetheless, I will stand by these comments as long exposure to both Thai's and Filipina's, HAS, on the whole, made me extremely cynical as regards their verbal honesty. This is maybe just my opinion but from the tone of the many reports on this thread in particular, I doubt it.
Your final point, as you say, regards the Thai Forum, so I will ignore it unless you wish to take it up there.
No I have no hard feelings. These boards would soon become as boring as hell if we all had the same viewpoint and there were no disagreements. Its when they get personal, as has happened before with certain members, that the whole thing becomes sour and tedious for other board members.
Yes, now that you have edited your post (I referred to your original, unedited post which you can view as a quote in my report), I do see your meaning. I take it an 'old ass' black man would be safe from attack.
Your final point, as you say, regards the Thai Forum, so I will ignore it unless you wish to take it up there.
No I have no hard feelings. These boards would soon become as boring as hell if we all had the same viewpoint and there were no disagreements. Its when they get personal, as has happened before with certain members, that the whole thing becomes sour and tedious for other board members.
Dude you took my whole post wrong. Like I said “observance.” I didn’t say old ass black guys were immune to attack. I said that Filipino criminals tend to attack certain groups. I changed the words in my post because you took offense to what I wrote.
I didn’t say anything excessively negative about the squatter dwellers only maybe that’s why the inhabitants of the mall appeared rough compared to what I am use to seeing at other places such as the Greenbelt.
I am not taking a got damn thing to the Bangkok boards. What I should have done was ignored your post/“opinion” that I allowed to “get to me” in the first place but that’s a humanistic flaw that I have….
LEG HAIR: I am against it. Saw too much off it. Ladies, please shave
Have to agree with much of what you say BB; nice post!
In your travels, have you met any Pinays with extra hair growth around the upper lip area? Have seen more than a few that could use a little laser hair removal! Must be their Spanish heritage!
FreebieFan
01-30-09, 02:03
I also have a condo in the Fort area and Market2 is my local Mall. Just seems like an average Manila type mall to me with all the usual suspects. Certainly plenty of nice looking girls about when I've visited the place but I've always seemed to be too busy to have time to try any hook-ups there. However, this being the Philippines, I would not imagine it to be too difficult.I've had some good success with shopgirls in Bonifacio Hgh street. And still sometimes date a lady who used to work in a sports store there. Also Jag Jeans as commented earlier.
Have a look at Che, she works in Starbucks in Market Market. Cute to the max. Anyways, maybe see you there one of these days! But for sure, Taguig has a plentiful supply. Keep them coming, and I will keep coming. LOL
Cunning Stunt
01-30-09, 08:35
I've had some good success with shopgirls in Bonifacio Hgh street. And still sometimes date a lady who used to work in a sports store there. Also Jag Jeans as commented earlier.
Have a look at Che, she works in Starbucks in Market Market. Cute to the max. Anyways, maybe see you there one of these days! But for sure, Taguig has a plentiful supply. Keep them coming, and I will keep coming. LOL
Thanks for the hints, FF. I tend to use my little condo in Taguig as a bolt hole and fuck pad for those special Pinay friends who won't steal the cutlery;). So I've not done any real pussy hunting in the vicinity.
Its also a nice little earner. Got it let out at the moment to a bunch of tourists for 3 weeks, and it makes me a months mongering funds and some change.
Be nice to get together with you for a beer, next time you hit town.
Have to agree with much of what you say BB; nice post!
In your travels, have you met any Pinays with extra hair growth around the upper lip area? Have seen more than a few that could use a little laser hair removal! Must be their Spanish heritage!
Funny, Mick Licker, the doyen of the Thai board, replied to a recent post on one of their threads, with a similar comment that Pinays were too hairy for him. Suprised me but I guess that, compared to the virtually bodily hairless Thai's, a few Filipina's might seem hirsute.
Have you ever had an Indian girl? Now they ARE hairy.
P.S What sort of asshole would misspell the word pussy. Even dyslexic mongers usually get that word correct.
Member #4214
03-02-09, 09:42
Was having a great session with my favorite freebee Filipina, she was riding cowgirl and I was cupping both rather large breasts, when I noticed an odd lump under one. It was not a small lump, and was in the deep tissue of the breast. After popping, I mentioned it to her, and she naturally became a little alarmed. I could simply be a broken blood vessel, but she says her aunt lost a breast to cancer.
We are not in Phils - she is OFW here where I live, but she is scheduled to return home in a couple weeks. I told her to get it checked out asap, which she's promised to do.
If it turns out she has cancer, I'm gonna be in uncharted water in a hurry. The relationship has always been casual - I'm married and she is my happy mistress - but one can hardly walk away when your partner is stricken.
Uggh. Guess I'm just gonna have to wait for test results, and deal with facts rather than fears. Anyone been through something like this? Uggh (again).
FreebieFan
03-06-09, 00:54
Was having a great session with my favorite freebee Filipina, she was riding cowgirl and I was cupping both rather large breasts, when I noticed an odd lump under one. It was not a small lump, and was in the deep tissue of the breast. After popping, I mentioned it to her, and she naturally became a little alarmed. I could simply be a broken blood vessel, but she says her aunt lost a breast to cancer.
If it turns out she has cancer, I'm gonna be in uncharted water in a hurry. The relationship has always been casual. I'm married and she is my happy mistress. But one can hardly walk away when your partner is stricken.
Uggh. Guess I'm just gonna have to wait for test results, and deal with facts rather than fears. Anyone been through something like this? Uggh (again).I noticed that no one has answered you so I will. I've had my bout with cancer, and so far am winning. However, your best use here can be to provide her with facts about this carefully gleaned from internet.
Whatever her doctors tell her, and sorry to say, they generally arent that good in Manila except in St Lukes, shes going to be getting useless info from friends neighbours etc.
Get her to send you her medical results, biopsy scores etc. Research on net. And type in cancer and you will get 100 milliion hits. And hopefully you can find good advice for her.
All rich Filipinos go to Singapore HK and Us for treatments. Maybe she can't. But you can be a provider of good info for her. And much better than she might get from friends and well meaning family.
Member #4214
03-06-09, 07:52
I noticed that no one has answered you so I will. I've had my bout with cancer, and so far am winning. However, your best use here can be to provide her with facts about this carefully gleaned from internet.
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Thanks for that. It is not the most pleasant topic, and really had us rattled for a few days. She has now seen three doctors here in Taiwan under her OFW health coverage. They've determined that she has harmless liquid-filled cysts, which is a huge relief, although that determination is not absolutely conclusive. She'll have a minor procedure in a few days to drain the largest one I detected. The liquid can later be examined for anything malignant, but we think she is good to go. Health care here is reasonably good, so we are not concerned on that front. She saw a team of two doctors, including one surgeon, during her last visit. She said they were very thorough and patiently explained everything to her in clear english.
Guys should read up on cysts in the breast, 'cause if you handle enough of them you are bound to run into this. Apparently 1 in 10 women, typically in their 30s and 40s, will form cysts like this. Anyway, we are already planning our next 3 hour romp, so all is well.
Was having a great session with my favorite freebee Filipina, she was riding cowgirl and I was cupping both rather large breasts, when I noticed an odd lump under one. It was not a small lump, and was in the deep tissue of the breast. After popping, I mentioned it to her, and she naturally became a little alarmed. I could simply be a broken blood vessel, but she says her aunt lost a breast to cancer.
We are not in Phils - she is OFW here where I live, but she is scheduled to return home in a couple weeks. I told her to get it checked out asap, which she's promised to do.
If it turns out she has cancer, I'm gonna be in uncharted water in a hurry. The relationship has always been casual - I'm married and she is my happy mistress - but one can hardly walk away when your partner is stricken.
Uggh. Guess I'm just gonna have to wait for test results, and deal with facts rather than fears. Anyone been through something like this? Uggh (again).Firstly, large breasts are more prone to 'mastitis' & lumps of a benign nature.
Secondly, a family history of breast cancer demands vigilant attention to ANY & EVERY breast lump.
I hope the biopsies are ok.
Good luck & god bless you both.
AV
Member #4647
03-22-09, 22:45
That's the best advice I can give anyone.
They can outfuck a ten peckered billygoat but they will lie like a snake.
FreebieFan
03-24-09, 03:26
That's the best advice I can give anyone.
They can outfuck a ten peckered billygoat but they will lie like a snake.Damn. You must have met some really bad ones to give you this opinion. Been mongering/ living in Phils for past 25 years and can't say Id agree with you.
That's the best advice I can give anyone.
They can outfuck a ten peckered billygoat but they will lie like a snake.Mongers don't lie??? ;) hehehehehe! Pot meet kettle!
Leeman1234
03-26-09, 04:08
That's the best advice I can give anyone.
They can outfuck a ten peckered billygoat but they will lie like a snake.Yes totally agree buddy! Just caution bros out there!!!!
Member #4647
04-01-09, 04:17
This is a text conversation from a girl I met at EDSA a few months ago and never barfined but only got her number. We texted a little at first but I had a girlfriend that watched me like a hawk so I never got to meet her. Shortly after we first met at EDSA she left to work in Japan as a nurse. I strongly doubt she went to Japan to be a nurse, she was one of the top looking EDSA girls and I think we all know what she was doing in Japan.
her: hi how are you? I'm vy, i'm in pasay now
me: i'm fine, how are you?
her: i'm fine llbit tired cuz i'm fly, how about u? everything good?
me: Yes, I thought you forgot about me
her: haha, i'm not. Not forgot u. Last time I textt but i didn't saw u answer
me: How is your family?
her: They good thank u. maybe i'll go out with u when u available :)
me: But you are so busy
her: I'm not busy yet I think :)
me I want to see u
her: When U want? if u want today i think after 8 cuz i go to my sister house get food for my grandfather and mom
me: Where do you want to meet?
her: Uhm, I don't know, where you want tell me and when i finish i'll come :)
me: Lets meet at the laundry place where I first met u by EDSA
her: OK i'll comeWhen we met up I had plans for a walk along Roxas blvd and a nice romantic dinner. However, she wanted to go straight to the hotel, a reqest to which I happily obliged. Met up with her again the next night for another round. She didn't ask for a single peso and even paid for the Sogo room! I've said it before and I'll say it again, never barfine an EDSA girl, just get her number and get a freebie the next day.
Orangevale Rob
04-01-09, 07:22
I here are some random shit from my experiences dealing with the Pinays.I may have said some of this in other posts over time, sorry for any redundancies.
DATING SITES: As far as the three dating sites i used: I found the best for marriage minded was Cherry Blossoms. They do the best job of weeding out the scamers. I wait at least a few days after girl signs signs up to CB before sending her a note, this way if she is active, there is a good chance that she has not tried to scam other men already. They also are allowed many pictures, so you get a good sense of how she really looks, not just her best picture that is on the front profile. Another great thing is it keeps a log of who has visited your profile and more importantly to me, it tells you how many times they have visited your profile. If a girl visits your profile 10 times in a couples of days, she is really into you. If she only visits once, and never replies to you or gives you a generic greeting, she just ain't in to you.
For girls that are borderline hookers or more for fun, there is Date In Asia. It is free, and it is barely regulated. It only allows one picture and has the most gays by far. If you are in town and looking to hook up fast, I would recommend DAI.
I found Fillipina Heart to be in the middle ground between girls for play and for marriage/ LTR. It is similar to CB, but not as well regulated. Overall I have had my most fun with it. The cost is about $25 a month, give or take a few bucks, same as CB.
Any other good dating sites, especialy free?
CONDOMS: I was amazed at the lack of use. I was there for 3 months on the last trip. I did the deed with 11 girls including one pro, and only 1 requested I put a condom on. All the girls were aged between 20-25 and childless.(that's my target market). If these girls remember from my profile, I wrote that I did not want any children. Most of these girls had college degrees, I don't know why they did not demand a condom. They had only know me for a short time, so they had no Idea if I got them pregnant if I would just disregard them.
None of them new that I had a vasectomy before my trip, best $1000 investment I ever made.
LEG HAIR: I am against it. Saw too much off it. Ladies, please shave.
SEX AND LIES: Over the last 3 years I have had semi regular contact with about 15-18 Pinays. I think Dragon Slayer said something to the effect of "all pinays are liars, all of them". Yep, yours is not different. Really, she isn't.
There are so many ways to test their honesty, 90 percent of them lied to me when it came to past or present relationships. (the other 10 percent I just didn't care enough to inquire). they don't think it is lying when they are dishonest about sex, because there culture is so Conservative. Most of the girls that spent time with me in my hotel, believe their parents think they are still virgins.
FRIENDSTER: It is the number one visited site in the Philippines, even beating Yahoo and Google. 90% of the girls have it. Once you get some basic information about a girl, find her freindster profile, it will have a lot pictures and information about her. MOST of the information will be truthfull, because all her friends and family will be reading it on occasion, so they don't want to be lie too much on it. Friendster is a great way to check her pictures to see if there are a bunch with her and a local Pinoy. Also, you check out her friends, see if they are mostly skankks, gays, or foreign men.
THE FAMILY: If you are overly polite and bring a gift (even a small one) the family will love you and basically force the girl to pick you as her boy freind/ or fiancee. The local boys have no manners and no money. The majority of the fathers I met acted like THEY wanted to blow me after I was kind enoght to bring them $15 worth of hard liquar. I swear, most fathers were unemployed and alchoholics. All of the girls have a shit load of younger sibblings living at the house, so spend $10 on a variety of candy, and they will also tell your gf that you are the perfect match for her.
They say the best girls you will not meet on the internet, but at least it is a starting point for those of us who only have a short vacation planned.I don't post much here, haven't ever even been to the Phils, but I thought this post was full of great info, and very useful.
One of my all-time favorites was Pia, who I met in Tacloban a year and a half ago:
http://www.internationalsexguide.in...8&postcount=573
We kept in touch for a while, afterwards, but then I lost track of her. She shut down her Friendster page and hadn’t visited her Facebook page in over a year. I figured she’d married a local trike driver and was busy popping out babies.
Then last week, completely out of the blue, I get a note from her on Facebook, asking how I’m doing. I answer back, “I’ll be in the Philippines in two weeks. Where are you at, these days?” Turns out she’s in Manila, working in a shop her sister has in one of the malls in Makati. The mall is only about a 30 minute walk from the hotel I stay at, when in Manila.
She’s encouraged me to drop by and say, “Hi”. You better believe I will!
FreebieFan
04-30-09, 01:11
Had a heck of a weekend in Manila recently (trip report added). This included meeting a few ladies in a mall and taking them to Sogo.
One is a real homebody type and I remember we had reallly great sex. Was first class.
Anyways, today she and I are chatting on YM and shes telling me that her agenda for today is to go to church to pray for forgiveness. But she really enjoyed it and can we do it again.
Filipina philosophy 101. Loved doing what I did, but I'm supposed to feel bad, so if I go to church it will all be ok.
Wicked Roger
04-30-09, 14:43
Anyways, today she and I are chatting on YM and shes telling me that her agenda for today is to go to church to pray for forgiveness. But she really enjoyed it and can we do it again.
Filipina philosophy 101. Loved doing what I did, but I'm supposed to feel bad, so if I go to church it will all be ok.
That is the beauty of the Catholic faith, you do whatever you like, however kinky and disgusting (am not saying shagging you FF is :D) and then see the priest and say sorry, a few amens etc and you can back and do it all over again
No guilt......lovely religion...or be like me, no religion and just have fun :D. But I do like the homebody girls who suddenly realise that shagging and being kinky is a lot more enjoyable than being conservative...their faces the first time are something to remember....
Big Johnson2
05-03-09, 21:28
That being said yes it still is easier for me to meet women here than in the US but I am just losing my desire for the ones who don’t got a pot to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in and a window to throw it of. If you date or keep a fling that is broke more than likely her overall motivation for being involved with you is money. That’s fun and all but all that comes down to is another form of Pay for Play. While I know there are guys who say you pay for pussy no matter what I and I do believe this is true it’s nice to spend some time with woman who can buy her own damn cell phone which is such a popular sugar daddy gift now and days.
Even if they claim they have no money, I hear them say they can't work that job because it is too hard and doesn't pay enough money. Instead they spend there days watching TV and sleeping. Is it typical one person works and 5 stay home.
What is it like dating a girl w/ a real job that doesn't need you for your money. Are they eager to sleep w/ you or does the desire for sex go away when they have there own money?
Even if they claim they have no money, I hear them say they can't work that job because it is too hard and doesn't pay enough money. Instead they spend there days watching TV and sleeping. Is it typical one person works and 5 stay home.
What is it like dating a girl w/ a real job that doesn't need you for your money. Are they eager to sleep w/ you or does the desire for sex go away when they have there own money?
Filipinas with money are just as bitchy and choosy as women are in the west only most of them still have that sweet "Filipina" femininity that we love so much. (That is what you want right? A "Choosy Lover" as the "Isley Brothers" so quaintly put it.) Filipinas (decent ones) on average make great life long partners. Some guys live in a delusional world and think it's ok to keep a partner who is only in it for financial reasons. To each his own but I just wouldn't be content with this arrangement.
Some guys just want to assuage their loneliness but that setup (uneducated poor, bar-girls) only creates more loneliness in the long term in my opinion.
Being a white guy you should not limit yourself to bar-girls especially in the third world. You sound like you are looking for a mate. So why limit yourself to the hookers you came here to improve your lot correct?
Check out the type of natives in SE Asia who keep Hookers as wives or girlfriends are you the same type of material? Are you cut from the same slice?
FreebieFan
05-04-09, 07:39
Filipinas with money are just as bitchy and choosy like woman are in the west only most of them still have that sweet "Filipina" femininity that we love so much. (That is what you want right? A choosy lover as the "Isley Brothers" so quaintly put it.) They on average make great life long partners. Some guys live in a delusional world and think its ok to keep a partner who is only in it for financial reasons. To each his own but I just wouldn't be content with this arrangement.
?Have been with many girls who work. They are about the same as non working girls. Sex was the same, thats for sure and their kisses was just as sweet. Only difference being sometimes they had to go home early, or were late (stuck in meetings etc). But they certainly werent anything significantly different from the ladies who had job. And of course, having their own job, they never asked for $$.
GoodEnough
05-04-09, 11:53
It's actually pretty simple here to meet normal, reasonably well educated and employed women, many of whom still prefer Western guys. Speak to other expats who live in wherever you are, and ask their asawas to introduce you, or hang out at some of the universities. As long as you're not shy, and you're not going to be reduced to a pitiable state by being shot down every now and again, you should not have any problems at all.
GE
Big Johnson2
05-04-09, 20:14
Dating non bar girls sounds like a great idea. I am not shy so wouldn't have any problem talking to them at a college or a mall. I don't want to take them out 5 times before I get any booty though. For the guys who date normal women, how many dates has it taken to get them to bed? Yes, would prefer normal girls, with normal morals. I don't want a GF that I have to worry would cheat on me when I'm not watching. The laziness factor of these X-bar girls bothers me. They are very quick to ask for money and don't have any plans to go to work.
The first girl I ever slept with in the Phil was a non bar girl that I met at the mall, and of course she never asked me for money.
GoodEnough
05-04-09, 23:16
Dating non bar girls sounds like a great idea. I am not shy so wouldn't have any problem talking to them at a college or a mall. I don't want to take them out 5 times before I get any booty though. For the guys who date normal women, how many dates has it taken to get them to bed? Yes, would prefer normal girls, with normal morals. I don't want a GF that I have to worry would cheat on me when I'm not watching. The laziness factor of these X-bar girls bothers me. They are very quick to ask for money and don't have any plans to go to work.
The first girl I ever slept with in the Phil was a non bar girl that I met at the mall, and of course she never asked me for money.
How long it takes depends on the girl, the circumstances and the chemistry, but it's been my experience that it doesn't take more than one or two dates.
Met one on DIA, in SIN, first date she starts talking marriage & kids. Stays overnight, but no sex until morning. 2nd date, stayed over again. Really bad sex. I didn't think sex COULD be bad except for with wife. Started hitting me up for big $ to "help her get her SIN work visa." Started getting hysterical when I booted her out and told her we just weren't meant for each other.
Picked up another at an Orchard Tower pinay bar. Excellent massage, good cowgirl, BBBJ but no CIM. Very inexpensive - S$100 but could have paid less with no complaint from her. Invited her back 2x, again for pay. Really good massage followed by a rocking good fuck. After, while watching TV, she phones a friend to tell her she's with her boyfriend. Boyfriend? WTF? I have to tell her I'm paying for a massage and a quality intra-vaginal dick massage. Next day she's constantly texting - "Miss you!" "Luv you!"
Are they all nuts or am I on a bad streak?
Darth Sushi
05-05-09, 14:50
Are they all nuts or am I on a bad streak?Bad streak and you're nuts for paying too much :D ... but we've all paid too much from time to time.
Bad streak and you're nuts for paying too much :D ... but we've all paid too much from time to time.
Didn't pay the DIA nutjob a cent.
For the other, $100 Singapore is a pretty damn good rate in Singapore for 3-4 hours, an excellent massage, and 2-3 pops.
From my limited experience, I have met up with a number of non P4P women in the Philippines.
Probably more than half were working in dcent jobs, and have some decent education. I prefer these, because there is good conversation in addition to good sex.
A fw have been very inexperienced, or virgins, but most have had some kind of relationship before.
They are very eager to please, generally will try anythng, and never ask for a peso.
If I think they are short of money, I wil give them some as they leave, always to buy something for their mother,sister,kid or whatever.
Only a fw hav been nuisances, very hard to get rid of, two memorable ones spring to mind.
So go for it. Try them out.
I think there were only a few who did not jump into the pit on our first time together. Many of them were only interested in getting into bed and gettting at it as soon as they could. Some as quickly as ten minutes or so.
Just show respect and interest in them.
G
Big Johnson2
05-05-09, 15:59
Wow, I need to date more normal women, if they are that interested in sex.
Are these girls as quick getting in bed with the local penays? or is just the poriegners?
I only went out w/ one non bar girl which I met at the mall. She was 20 and very nice looking. We went straight back to my room as were in the bed immediately. She didn't leave for 3 days until finally sent her home. It was my first time in AC and I wanted to sample everything else. I was in Manila for a day and she came over in the morning and jumped in the bed immediately. I think I made her eat breakfast first though.
So is it an all or nothing thing with these girls? If they like you enough to go out, do they want to sleep with you?
I guess the local guys can't be getting it this easy or else there would not be any virgins?
Do the local guys resent us?
ThatGuy865
05-05-09, 18:37
I guess the local guys can't be getting it this easy or else there would not be any virgins?
Do the local guys resent us?Its all about the money even with the local girls. Some want the sex. But most figure you a great catch. Especially compared to the locals.
And HELL YEAH the local guys resent us. Wouldn't you, Why do you think they take such joy in giving a foreigner a beat down, at the slightest reason.
FreebieFan
05-06-09, 00:42
How long it takes depends on the girl, the circumstances and the chemistry, but it's been my experience that it doesn't take more than one or two dates.Been my expereince too. Last visit to Manila. (see trip report) met two girls on successive days. We had never met before but had exchanged some sms.
Met in mall. Had a coffee / beer whatever with them, then we walked to my car and drove to motel. Neither of them asked where we were going. Gave one a P300 Smart load and the other P200 so she had taxi to go home and taxi money to meet me again.
The problem with local guys their own age is a private place. They don't have the back seat of a car! Unless she uses money from you, the foreigner, they cannot afford a ST motel room. If she hangs out with a BF for one week, they might find a room of their own to use once. But don't kid yourself--they do have sex with guys who speak their native language and enjoy the same music.
Wow, I need to date more normal women, if they are that interested in sex.
Are these girls as quick getting in bed with the local penays? or is just the poriegners?
I guess the local guys can't be getting it this easy or else there would not be any virgins?
Do the local guys resent us?
Neon Noodle
05-06-09, 08:46
I don't have any experience with the Pinays living in the Philippines. But all the ones I know and have been with all say the same things. That most "White guys" are better in bed (I assume it would also mean a person from any race from the west too). They said most Pinoys are simple and conservative in bed, boom boom and they done without regard to the woman. So even if they are from conservative parts of the Phils they will still know the allure of foreigners as good lovers.
I think its a perfect match as the Pinays I have been with were very passionate lovers, they just needed someone to show them.
Big Johnson2
05-06-09, 21:11
I don't have any experience with the Pinays living in the Philippines. But all the ones I know and have been with all say the same things. That most "White guys" are better in bed (I assume it would also mean a person from any race from the west too). They said most Pinoys are simple and conservative in bed, boom boom and they done without regard to the woman. So even if they are from conservative parts of the Phils they will still know the allure of foreigners as good lovers.
Yes, the girls I've been out with have complained that the Pinoys (I guess this is a guy and Pinay is a girl?) are boring and just do it missionary style. These girls compare notes about sex w/ their girl friends and if the poreigner is boring they'll say this. As my girlfriend told me this one white guy her friend was dating only did it in missionary and they joked he was just like a Filipino guy, which was an insult.
Have any of you heard that Pinoys only do it in Missionary?
I agree, it's a great situation: they are young and eager to learn and I am older and experienced and glad to give free lessons!
From my limited experience, I have met up with a number of non P4P women in the Philippines.
Probably more than half were working in dcent jobs, and have some decent education. I prefer these, because there is good conversation in addition to good sex.
A fw have been very inexperienced, or virgins, but most have had some kind of relationship before.
They are very eager to please, generally will try anythng, and never ask for a peso.
If I think they are short of money, I wil give them some as they leave, always to buy something for their mother,sister,kid or whatever.
Only a fw hav been nuisances, very hard to get rid of, two memorable ones spring to mind.
So go for it. Try them out.
I think there were only a few who did not jump into the pit on our first time together. Many of them were only interested in getting into bed and gettting at it as soon as they could. Some as quickly as ten minutes or so.
Just show respect and interest in them.
G
Getting non pros is sometimes easier than the pro's, just got to know where to look and who to look at. Let's face it, we're talking age limits, personally, in my mongering days I preferred those ages 25 to 30 for a lot of reasons. First being by age 25 MOST (?) women have the silliness out of them and their personalities are fully developed, what you get with of a 28 Y.O teacher, dentist or bank clerk is what you are going get for the rest of her life. Also, you are probably going to get a woman who is sexually experienced and who is scientifically proven to be at her sexual peak at age 30+.
Now some of spamhog's proven techniques are simple, first, stay the hell away from Angeles city and concentrate on areas that are not known for being the worlds brothel.
Gyms are a great place to meet profesisonal women, not the most expensive spa in town but a local gym that has an evening or daytime Tae Bo class, you will see the nurses, teachers, bank clerks and other professional ladies in droves.
second, look in areas where the mainstream ladies gather, a small calderita next to a bank, hospital, school at lunch or quitting time, get to know the uniforms and what they mean. The food will be awful but a great attention getter. "I'm trying to learn to eat Filipino food" said with a shy smile gets the conversation going.
I know of a calderita inside Cebu's business park that is filled every lunch hour with ladies who work in tech jobs and outsourced call centers. My big ugly mug attracts a lot in interest even with my personal guard dog Mrs Spamhog alongside. I have taken two board members into that place and they can attest to the volume of females, they could have done well on follow ups if alone judging from the interest.
Banks and hardware stores, find those not so busy, do business with them frequently and make friends with the clerks and tellers.
Remember that mainstream Filipinas don't like the "foreign monger" or monger attitude, give some other plausible reason why you are in the Phils other than racking up a score.
Good luck
Spamhog
Darth Sushi
05-07-09, 05:45
I know of a calderita inside Cebu's business park ...LOL, goat roping in a calderita! :D
Spam Hog is right about getting the hell away from Angeles. Whenever I argue with a non-pro, the accusation of mongering always pops up and being in or near Angeles doesn't help her paranoia.
LOL, goat roping in a calderita! :D
Spam Hog is right about getting the hell away from Angeles. Whenever I argue with a non-pro, the accusation of mongering always pops up and being in or near Angeles doesn't help her paranoia.
The Goat you rope may indeed be someones lunch.....
Spamhog
Big Johnson2
05-09-09, 03:49
I had a girl from Samar that I am friends with tell me she is very sick w/ fever. Said she recently had blood coming out of her nose when she blew it. She was scared she may have Dengue Fever. I told her not to use aspirin since it's a blood thinner, to use Tylonol. Anyway she tells me she went to a Dr. and it costs 2000P. I balked and said that sounds like a lot of money. She said they checked everything. I said what did they give you. She said that medicine you told me about referring to Tylonol. I said didn't he give you anything else, she said yes a liquid, but she didn't know the name. She said she is getting better but of course wants money. Isn't 2000P a ton of money to visit a Dr in Samar? I can remember Drs costing 600P. Could this be true or is this just BS, trying to get money?
Gravel Kicker
05-09-09, 06:08
Isn't 2000P a ton of money to visit a Dr in Samar? I can remember Drs costing 600P. Could this be true or is this just BS, trying to get money? Big J,
My one and hopefully only visit to a doc. In the Philippines was in Kabankalan, Negros Occidental. I had many very painfull blisters covering my back from being in the sun too long. The Doc. Said they were 2nd Degree burns. Guess it didn't help that I used full tanning oil (No SPF).
I was charged 500P for her service. No happy ending LOL. She prescribed a ointment which I had to purchase from a pharmacy also cheap 200P. I know I paid regular rates. The ex wifey took me to see the doc. I'd say 2000P is a lot, but she probably adding a few pesos onto that number. You know for the trike ride etc.
Tell her to go see one of those quack doctors only 150P.
I had a girl from Samar that I am friends with tell me she is very sick w/ fever. Said she recently had blood coming out of her nose when she blew it. She was scared she may have Dengue Fever. I told her not to use aspirin since it's a blood thinner, to use Tylonol. Anyway she tells me she went to a Dr. and it costs 2000P. I balked and said that sounds like a lot of money. She said they checked everything. I said what did they give you. She said that medicine you told me about referring to Tylonol. I said didn't he give you anything else, she said yes a liquid, but she didn't know the name. She said she is getting better but of course wants money. Isn't 2000P a ton of money to visit a Dr in Samar? I can remember Drs costing 600P. Could this be true or is this just BS, trying to get money?
If it is dengue, it could well cost P2000 or more. One of Spamhog's nieces came down with dengue last year and it cost me P5,000, of course an overnight hospital room in Cebu was included. The treatment goes for several days including the serum for dengue which is relatively costly.
Dr. visits in the PI range from P200 to P500, medicine can be expensivve depending on what treatment is. P2000 for a simple fever seems a bit much.
Spamhog
Last summer, I went to the emergency room once in Davao. Had 4 or 4 hot nurses checking my temp, blood pressure, ect. I then saw the doctor for a few minutes, gave him some story, and he gave me a prescription for the medicine I wanted. Cost without medicine was about 14 USD.
Did basicaly (minus the hot nurses, and a much longer wait) the same thing in Makati a month later. Cost without medicine was about 20 USD.
The reason I went was that I could not find over the counter sleep medicine. (Exedrin P.M, or Simply Sleep anywhere in the country. The pharmacist had never heard of sleeping pills and recommended I go to the emergency room. The doctors did not have any either, so they gave strong drugs instead, when all i wanted was pills I buy at the 7 eleven all the time in the US.
GoodEnough
05-10-09, 00:51
Last summer, I went to the emergency room once in Davao. Had 4 or 4 hot nurses checking my temp, blood pressure, ect. I then saw the doctor for a few minutes, gave him some story, and he gave me a prescription for the medicine I wanted. Cost without medicine was about 14 USD.
Did basicaly (minus the hot nurses, and a much longer wait) the same thing in Makati a month later. Cost without medicine was about 20 USD.
The reason I went was that I could not find over the counter sleep medicine. (Exedrin P.M, or Simply Sleep anywhere in the country. The pharmacist had never heard of sleeping pills and recommended I go to the emergency room. The doctors did not have any either, so they gave strong drugs instead, when all i wanted was pills I buy at the 7 eleven all the time in the US.
You cannot buy Excedrin PM here, or at least I've never seen it. I usually ask people coming back here from the States to bring me a large bottle when I start to run out.
GE
Last summer, I went to the emergency room once in Davao. Had 4 or 4 hot nurses checking my temp, blood pressure, ect. I then saw the doctor for a few minutes, gave him some story, and he gave me a prescription for the medicine I wanted. Cost without medicine was about 14 USD.
Did basicaly (minus the hot nurses, and a much longer wait) the same thing in Makati a month later. Cost without medicine was about 20 USD.
The reason I went was that I could not find over the counter sleep medicine. (Exedrin P.M, or Simply Sleep anywhere in the country. The pharmacist had never heard of sleeping pills and recommended I go to the emergency room. The doctors did not have any either, so they gave strong drugs instead, when all i wanted was pills I buy at the 7 eleven all the time in the US.Unless it is a controlled substance, you can buy most of your medicines at the pharmacy without a doctor's prescription. This includes most antibiotics that would require one in the USA Often the problem is that they don't know the USA Brand names, but have similar under different names. They don't seem to package or brand any medicine the way it is done in the States. I generally look up the medication on the internet and take in the formula, most pharmacists with this information can give you similar, usually sold by the pill, rather than by a bottle. Looked up Excedrin, see this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excedrin
Big Johnson2
05-14-09, 20:50
I hear Pregnancy Scams are very common in the Philippines. I've heard many girls try to get pregnant to get money from their western men. Also heard they fake pregnancies when their men are not there to exhort money. What is a man required to pay if he gets a girl pregnant in the Philippines? Any child support laws? I always keep my condoms on, but it makes things more difficult if they want to get pregnant.
If you've had any experiences with this or have advice I'd like to know. Thanks.
I hear Pregnancy Scams are very common in the Philippines. I've heard many girls try to get pregnant to get money from their western men. Also heard they fake pregnancies when their men are not there to exhort money. What is a man required to pay if he gets a girl pregnant in the Philippines? Any child support laws? I always keep my condoms on, but it makes things more difficult if they want to get pregnant.
If you've had any experiences with this or have advice I'd like to know. Thanks.
A Manye be careful SE Asian women play for keeps. This is one of the reasons Filipinas allow Westerners to go bareback (the other reason is ignorance of STDS) Always use a condom and when done make sure it is flushed down the toilet I read the sad tale of one ISGer who after using the condom and throwing it in the trash the WG got the condom out of trash and stuffed it in her pussy. Nine months later he gets a email that he has a bunddle of joy he now has to take care of for 18 years.
As for child support laws there are laws in place to make an American pay for abandoning a child overseas but you talking about Embassies, Lawyers an international case etc...The average Filipina would not have the means to fight something like this in the court system. That being said would you want to leave a destitute woman with child?
Protect your personal health and financial health. Let's say the average child support payment in the States is $500. (20% of your income) After 18 years (typical length of a child support contract) this comes out a whopping $108,000. We know most of you guys don't have this type of money to give away as some of you can barely afford the airfare, always staying at SOGOs and going to places like the Cafe to avoid Go-Go prices..:D
I hear Pregnancy Scams are very common in the Philippines. I've heard many girls try to get pregnant to get money from their western men. Also heard they fake pregnancies when their men are not there to exhort money. What is a man required to pay if he gets a girl pregnant in the Philippines? Any child support laws? I always keep my condoms on, but it makes things more difficult if they want to get pregnant.
If you've had any experiences with this or have advice I'd like to know. Thanks.
Yeah that is a scam like lots of others
If you think you are the victim or target of a pregnancy scam a quick way to end it or settle it is thus. Tell the girl you do not beleive it is yours and that you will take her to a laboratory in Cebu for a paternity test which will prove the perantage. That will usually run off the obvious scammers. Should she not balk, such a thing is available.
I personally would not give her money "for a doctor", medicine or what ever, I would tell her no, But I will take you to the doctor and I will pay the bill for the exam.
As for Support laws yes there are laws in the PI about support. If you return to the USA or elsewhere she can go to your embassy and file a case there the burden of proof is upon her...BUT such an endeavor takes a lot of money, lawyers etc. Most Filipinas don't have the financial wherewithal....sad in some instances.
Spamhog
FreebieFan
05-15-09, 05:51
As for child support laws there are laws in place to make an American pay for abandoning a child overseas but you talking about Embassies, Lawyers an international case etc...The average Filipina would not have the means to fight something like this in the court system. That being said would you want to leave a destitute woman with child?
Protect your personal health and financial health. Let's say the average child support payment in the States is $500. (20% of your income) After 18 years (typical length of Child support contract) this comes out a whopping $108,000. We know most of you guys don't have this type of money to give away as some of you can barely afford the airfare, always staying at SOGOs and trying to knock freelancers down to the lowest price....:DYes but I only stay at Sogo for the 3 hour minimum.
GoodEnough
05-15-09, 11:03
Yeah that is a scam like lots of others
If you think you are the victim or target of a pregnancy scam a quick way to end it or settle it is thus. Tell the girl you do not beleive it is yours and that you will take her to a laboratory in Cebu for a paternity test which will prove the perantage. That will usually run off the obvious scammers. Should she not balk, such a thing is available.
I personally would not give her money "for a doctor", medicine or what ever, I would tell her no, But I will take you to the doctor and I will pay the bill for the exam.
As for Support laws yes there are laws in the PI about support. If you return to the USA or elsewhere she can go to your embassy and file a case there the burden of proof is upon her...BUT such an endeavor takes a lot of money, lawyers etc. Most Filipinas don't have the financial wherewithal....sad in some instances.
Spamhog
Actually, it's very tough for anyone here to come after a European or US citizen for paternity. For one thing, in both cases, the father must acknowledge paternity, and under US/European law, he has no obligation to do so. For another thing, you cannot be coerced into DNA testing, so there's really very little the girl can do unless the father has signed the birth certificate acknowledging paternity. The Embassy's job in this case is to protect its citizens. This is perhaps unfair, but it's the way it is.
As to child support laws here they, like all other laws here, are not enforced. If they were, the population of bar girls would be reduced substantially, as they would no longer have to screw for money since the useless guys who knocked them up wouldn't be able to flee. Also, there's little here in the way of computerized databases so it's difficult, and usually impossible to track a father's whereabouts, find out if he's working, finding out what he's earning, etc.
GE
Yes but I only stay at Sogo for the 3 hour minimum.
A Freebie no offense bruh just simple fuckery...
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Fuckery
The Sogos are great for short time liaisons. No passport needed, no ID, no pre-booking, only pay and go and you save a hell of a lot money (can never clown a man for saving money) I mean no sense in taking a LA Cafe girl to a 5 star hotel :D Then again most of the girls I have encountered have been to all of them anyway :D
I just feel uncomfortable in the Sogos but no knock to the guys who continue to use and enjoy their services. I think I will utilize the Pearl Manila in this manner from now. Have not stayed there in 5 years but it was nice and cheap when I did....
Bill Buxton
05-15-09, 17:36
I hear Pregnancy Scams are very common in the Philippines. I've heard many girls try to get pregnant to get money from their western men. Also heard they fake pregnancies when their men are not there to exhort money. What is a man required to pay if he gets a girl pregnant in the Philippines? Any child support laws? I always keep my condoms on, but it makes things more difficult if they want to get pregnant.
If you've had any experiences with this or have advice I'd like to know. Thanks.Like others have said here this is a common problem and no girl wants to loose a walking ATM. You go out hard charging every night and stay around a while this BS will find you for sure. Note, they never try it with there Flip bf, or a next door neighbor STRANGE HA.
Keep the cash close.
B. B.
Actually, it's very tough for anyone here to come after a European or US citizen for paternity. For one thing, in both cases, the father must acknowledge paternity, and under US/European law, he has no obligation to do so. For another thing, you cannot be coerced into DNA testing, so there's really very little the girl can do unless the father has signed the birth certificate acknowledging paternity. The Embassy's job in this case is to protect its citizens. This is perhaps unfair, but it's the way it is.
As to child support laws here they, like all other laws here, are not enforced. If they were, the population of bar girls would be reduced substantially, as they would no longer have to screw for money since the useless guys who knocked them up wouldn't be able to flee. Also, there's little here in the way of computerized databases so it's difficult, and usually impossible to track a father's whereabouts, find out if he's working, finding out what he's earning, etc.
GE
I concur. Even if a girl files for child support in a embassy, the embassy will not take any action. Embassy has seen all these scams many times, besides the child support is a civil matter. Taking responsibility and providing support is purely voluntary on the part of the assumed father.
It is next to impossible for foreign citizens to claim for child support from US citizens unless they are living in USA.
My advice would be if you really want to help the girl do it out of your goodness of heart. Couple of hundred dollars a month will do.
Do not try to get patternity tested as it will be considered a legal document proving you are the father and liable. However no foreign person will have your wages garnished to pay child support. Those things are court ordered in USA.
It is possible the that if the girl has patternity tested proof that you are the father she can go to local court for child support and you can be detained on arrival to the country.
Like others have said here this is a common problem and no girl wants to loose a walking ATM. You go out hard charging every night and stay around a while this BS will find you for sure. Note, they never try it with there Flip bf, or a next door neighbor STRANGE HA.
Keep the cash close.
B. B.
After leaving the PI I have had a weirder set of experiences than I could have imagined. I'll make it short because I know everyone here is busy, busy. Just be careful......:
Hooked up with a sweet FL ("M")the last few weeks, and treated her nice. Best pussy ever, never asked for money or anything else, just to sleep with me. 26, demure, quiet, but hot as a pistol. I took her for a weekend to the beach, and when we were in a bar she was chatting with one of the best-looking working girls & learned she had 2 kids and no money. I said I thought she was nice and my girl said she felt sorry for her and asked if I wanted to have her. Well, why the hell not? BF'ed and did the deed, and when I came downstairs they were like old mates at the bar. My girl said she cried while we were upstairs though. That shifted my opinion about her, that she really had a warm heart.
After the typical sad taxi to the airport and farewell I started getting texts like "I love you..., bla bla"..., and something in me snapped to the point where a few days later I sent her money for a caregivers course. Just a big wad, all of a sudden so fast I even surprised myself. She was so grateful - "oh honey, I am really gonna change my life now, tnk u, love u forever, please come back soon bla bla."
OK - course supposed to start last Monday. Then Friday it was her turn to screw up - I get this IM from her address:
"yes [lenience] believe that i really love him hahahhaaha, he stupid sending me money and i will try to ask for more honey..."
I read it over and over, soon realized she had sent it to me by accident, although perhaps a Freudian sort of accident. I sent it back to her saying she had really made a huge huge mistake and that was the last she would ever hear from me. I got 5 mails in succession saying "sorry".
2 days later she IMs me saying "how come we not chat in so long?", like nothing happened and then she went on to say she had lost her phone with all e-mail IDs in it, someone has been using her Yahoo account, and on and on, like she would never do such a thing to me.
Then she made another mistake; I asked her how someone could have gotten into her Yahoo account and she told me the last true thing she will ever say to me: her password was so simple, just 6 zeroes, that someone could have guessed it. That seemed so farfetched that I tried it for the hell of it. There were not many mails left in her folders, only a few she had sent me, but one to a different sucker that I could hardly believe (edited but more or less copied here:
From: XXXXXXXX>Subject: To: (notme)XXXXXX@XXX.comD[/email]ate: Monday, April 20, 2009, 7:05 AMHi honey, how r you, im sorry hon you dont call me anymore coz i have no yetcellphone i saled already this morning because i went to the doctor for a checkup i have no money to pay there thats why and ill make sure that our baby is ingood condition and i promised to you ill take care of this baby soon. I havesome problem hon i must take vitamins and milk regularly but i have no yet moneyto buy completely thats the advised of my doctor i must and i want the baby ishealthy hon. I hope hon if i give birth of our baby i want you r here i wantyour presence. As of now hon i really need your support even a little amount tobuy the needs of our baby. Dont worry hon no doubt your the father of this babyno other guys and you know what after you leaving here ill stop working coz ireally missed you i think im in love with you. I LOVE YOU SO MUCH HONEY. See you
and
From: xxxx@yahoo.com>
To: xxxx@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 2:36:16 PM
Subject: Hi honey, this is my full name, xxxxx, Tondo, Manila, Philippines.
Hon if you sent me money pls. thru text only dont put or write here at my email coz i have no money to pay here everytime i mean the mtcn number. I LOVE YOU SO MUCH HONEY. I missed you.
I had his reply too but I think I lost it. He is all ready to be trussed and slaughtered. I mailed him but have not heard back. Well, I tried to help a brother.
I got one more IM from M, in which she said she missed me and promised to pay me back, "even with the Devil's money". I had never heard that term but figured it meant sex wages. I answered that I didn't think selling sex was the devil's wages, but she might meet up with him some day anyway, just for being a sneaky *****.
Next chapter: yesterday I got an IM and had a long chat with someone who "is close to M." and "was with her when she was online with you", and who really hates her for whoring, being so ambitious and not satisfied with what she has. It was really getting surreal. I could not get her to reveal her actual relationship with her, but she knew all about M.'s family situation (1 kid living with inlaws, husband working abroad, elderly mom living with older sister) that squared more or less with what I knew. She asked me if I was one of M's customers, which I dodged. I told her about the pregnancy scam, and she said if it was actually true her husband was going to be pretty upset when he comes back. (I don't think she really is pregnant) Then she signed off.
And that's about where it ends. No further communications. Me, older and wiser but no big deal - I like to experiment with money now and then. Her - maybe a new cellphone and handbag and hopefully no sucker boyfriends. I doubt she will take the caregiver's course, but I don't think I will write a recommendation for her if she does, even though she sure was some good eatin'.
Hooked up with a sweet FL ("M")the last few weeks, and treated her nice. Best pussy ever, never asked for money or anything else,
You did say you got the "best pussy ever" coupled with a relatively inexpensive and valuable real-world lesson learned, so isn't that worth the price you paid?
I took her for a weekend to the beach, and when we were in a bar she was chatting with one of the best-looking working girls & learned she had 2 kids and no money. I said I thought she was nice and my girl said she felt sorry for her and asked if I wanted to have her. Well, why the hell not? BF'ed and did the deed
You got one of the best looking working girls too, that was a bonus, you are still ahead.
"yes [lenience] believe that i really love him hahahhaaha, he stupid sending me money and i will try to ask for more honey..."
The value here is discovering at such an early stage what could have been a potentially prolonged sugar daddy/sucker experience. Your post is actually filled with optimism in more ways than one. Many suckers here and other places wish they could have been as fortunate as you were in this situation. What you gained in a few days, they’ve yet to learn in a life time.
GoodEnough
05-19-09, 12:08
this post should become required reading before anyone coming here for the first time buys a ticket. sadly, it's hardly a unique tale, and happily no permanent harm was done, but just imagine if the text had never been mistakenly sent and the thousands of dollars that could have been potentially wasted. i hope that every guy who insists "i know but this girl is different," reads this and takes it to heart. the bottom line for me is, as it's always been, do not believe anything that you have been told and think always with your head and not your heart. it's harsh, but it's the only way to cope with the place and emerge unrep001hed after the trip.
ge
Good Enough and Run Mann, you are absolutely right. I got away with what I consider to be a good deal since I never took any of it seriously, but I am still dazed from my complete misreading of that woman. Maybe I have not "been around the block" as much as I had thought.
You did say you got the "best pussy ever" coupled with a relatively inexpensive and valuable real-world lesson learned, so isn't that worth the price you paid?
You got one of the best looking working girls too, that was a bonus, you are still ahead.
The value here is discovering at such an early stage what could have been a potentially prolonged sugar daddy/sucker experience. Your post is actually filled with optimism in more ways than one. Many suckers here and other places wish they could have been as fortunate as you were in this situation. What you gained in a few days, they’ve yet to learn in a life time.
in an earlier post, i thought 'mine was different' because i had done some superficial mailbox analysis. in that post, i still realized my 'package' is to a large extent the family help her efforts towards me will generate and i advocated being 'competitive' in that family help criteria.
well, after a pain to get the visa, the planned wedding is off no less than a month in what was to be her new home (europe).
so it turns out, she was a serial liar (had not one but two boyfriends over the course of our six months distanced relationship, the last one she was still in love with). what made me send her back home is that she was lying to her family and best friend too as regard to what was happening here. so bad, she couldn't take it anymore.
while i understand she has to save face to her family for going back home not a 'loser' of the entire income going forward, there are limits to downside risk one can accept in the tales she sends home and friends alike (tales like she's begging for mercy to no avail for me not [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) her three times a day).
so, my learning curve is saying: make sure you monitor her cell phone and computer activities as soon as she arrives to give you time to have a better assesment of who she really is before you commit longer term. amazing how uninformed one may be until then.
Bill Buxton
05-20-09, 21:04
Good Enough and Run Mann, you are absolutely right. I got away with what I consider to be a good deal since I never took any of it seriously, but I am still dazed from my complete misreading of that woman. Maybe I have not "been around the block" as much as I had thought.Forget anything you ever knew or didn't know about gals or relationships. Take that info and throw it away in most cases its not the same here. Have a good time, keep the wallet closed and both eyes open at all times. You can have a great time here and don't believe more than 2% of what anybody foreign or domestic tell you here. The longer you stay looking and listening the faster you will get the proper reading on the ways of the world here in the PI.
GAMES, GAMES, AND MORE GAMES, but it comes at a small cost to you. These people tell shit every minute to each other so don't feel singled out. Never trust a bar girl, Never Trust Any Girl Here.
B. B.
I have to tell the board as this truly unbelievable…..
Last night while browsing the internet I was contacted on YM by a Filipina a Cebuana I knew through a mutual friend. To make a long sorry short she said she had to ask me something but was embarrassed. In my mind I knew the request for money was coming as I know the sun is coming up every morning. But what I didn’t know was how much. She said she had to pay her tuition and she was willing to do anything to make it happen. Not that….but she even thought about selling her kidney.
I had no interest in entertaining her request but I was just curious so I encouraged her on. I am thinking probably a measly 1-3 stacks she was going to request. But when she finally told me I couldn’t believe it. She was asking for 6 thousand dollars.
Keep in mind I have only spoken to this girl three times in two years. Never met in person. I am just beside myself in disbelief :confused:
me (5/21/2009 9:26:21 PM): how much is it?
her (5/21/2009 9:27:53 PM): its 3800 pounds
her (5/21/2009 9:27:53 PM): i checked the conversion online its 5,996.06 USD
me (5/21/2009 9:28:33 PM): WOW
her(5/21/2009 9:28:41 PM): in peso..its like death cloak
her(5/21/2009 9:28:41 PM): :(
her (5/21/2009 9:46:24 PM): you know...i was thinking of giving up one of
my kidneys if i ddint get lucky to get a loan
me (5/21/2009 9:46:50 PM): nah
her (5/21/2009 9:46:51 PM): just to pay for my tuition
Chocha Monger
05-21-09, 21:26
Since she was talking pounds I guess that she is going to school in the UK? Did you wish her luck selling her kidney? I'm sure she can make that money selling her holes in Europe. Anyway, I doubt she wants the money for tuition or that she would actually sell a kidney for it. She certainly seemed to think that you'd be willing to share your hard earned spoils of war with her. :D
FreebieFan
05-22-09, 00:26
A Freebie no offense bruh just simple fuckery.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=FuckeryWow. Wish we had the Urban Dictionary when I was growing up. , . " Fuckery". I really like that word. Nice one!
Since she was talking pounds I guess that she is going to school in the UK? Did you wish her luck selling her kidney? I'm sure she can make that money selling her holes in Europe. Anyway, I doubt she wants the money for tuition or that she would actually sell a kidney for it. She certainly seemed to think that you'd be willing to share your hard earned spoils of war with her. :D
Yeah she is trying to attend some college in Cebu which has an international program in Europe. No. I told her not to sale the kidney. I don’t think she will sale her kidney either. She thought I was up for it because of our mutual friend. This mutual friend I had offered her a loan a while back but nowhere near this much and this mutual friend has seen me wheel and deal in PI and knows of my financial situation.
I wouldn’t loan a family member this type of money unless they were on their deathbed with documented proof let alone a virtual stranger.
Brazen ... Like the BBW in the other thread ... Hope this is not a trend.
Brazen ... Like the BBW in the other thread ... Hope this is not a trend.
Unfortunately, I believe it is a mighty trend. You should skip this if you are a Creationist because it has to do with Darwin's theory of Survival of the Fittest.
Somewhere between WWII and the early '80's, the survival gene became dominant in filipina women and relatively recessive in western men (speaking here in generalities).The balance of power in the symbiotic relationship in which money and security is traded for pleasure is shifting. The specific intelligence by which pinays become successful parasites is gradually increasing. Collectively they know all the survival tricks and strategies, while our lack of a collective modus operandi has effectively diluted those genes among us males. While their brain-to-hand neural pathways have developed allowing them to put more of our money in their pockets, large parts of our brains have simply migrated into the scrotal region. The tighter the grasp of the pussy, the looser our grasp on reality.
If this were nuclear terror, we should all be bending over and kissing our asses goodbye now. Luckily we still can recognize the more obvious warning signs and have a few remaining self-protection mechanisms against the pinay attack, but they are fading fast..
Orangevale Rob
05-23-09, 02:23
her (5/21/2009 9:46:24 PM): you know...i was thinking of giving up one of
my kidneys if i ddint get lucky to get a loan
me (5/21/2009 9:46:50 PM): nah
her (5/21/2009 9:46:51 PM): just to pay for my tuitionI think we should call this the Cebuana Kidney Gambit.
I think we should call this the Cebuana Kidney Gambit.
How long until it morphs into the Nigerian Kidney Scam?
Big Johnson2
05-23-09, 18:23
in an earlier post, i thought 'mine was different' because i had done some superficial mailbox analysis. in that post, i still realized my 'package' is to a large extent the family help her efforts towards me will generate and i advocated being 'competitive' in that family help criteria.
well, after a pain to get the visa, the planned wedding is off no less than a month in what was to be her new home (europe).
so it turns out, she was a serial liar (had not one but two boyfriends over the course of our six months distanced relationship, the last one she was still in love with). what made me send her back home is that she was lying to her family and best friend too as regard to what was happening here. so bad, she couldn't take it anymore.
while i understand she has to save face to her family for going back home not a 'loser' of the entire income going forward, there are limits to downside risk one can accept in the tales she sends home and friends alike (tales like she's begging for mercy to no avail for me not [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) her three times a day).
so, my learning curve is saying: make sure you monitor her cell phone and computer activities as soon as she arrives to give you time to have a better assesment of who she really is before you commit longer term. amazing how uninformed one may be until then.
i really wanted to ask you some of these questions off line but you have no contact info displayed.
i see from your posts you used to frequent russia. i used to too, but haven't been back in 2 years because i find the philippines more lucrative. why did you give it up and are now in the phil?
how do you monitor her cell phone? i would like this ability too.
sorry to be so nosy, but how old are you since you want an 18 year old virgin to marry and live with you in europe?
are you still with this girl after she is saying that you are [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) her 3 times a day? this is a dangerous accusation for her to make.
Big Johnson2
05-23-09, 18:51
I think we need to reconsider that OUR opinion of the Bar Girl job and THEIR opinion of the job is quite different. We see it as bad and don't want someone we care about there. They see it as a pretty good job for a girl from their province. As many as 20% of the girls from some villages go to be bar girls. One BG told me it was "EASY MONEY" and she was glad to work there because she could buy color TV, DVD player, iPod, colored contacts lenses, expensive cell phone, etc. They are NOT just fucking to feed their family as you can see. It's good job for someone with their skills considering many never graduated high school.
I realize now that I was more upset about “nice” girls working as Bar Girls than they were. Now, I’m not sure if “rescuing” them from the bar girl lifestyle is the right thing to do. I know of two girls that older men became there BF and got them to leave. Within 2 months both were back working there. I’m not sure if they are still getting the money from the men, but my guess is they are. A girl that knows them told me they came back because, "it’s boring in the province and they are just horny".
The job has lots of fringe benefits: it can provide food and sometimes it is a big party, and it pays a lot too, and if you like sex even better. It's a status symbol to have a foreign guy, so they get their egos boosted because foreign guys want them. The ultimate fringe benefit would be to get a foreign boyfriend, sponsor, or husband or maybe even a couple of boyfriends if they are real dishonest. Most of these girls have already had sex with poor Filipino guys for free, so now they can make money for it. They have a job, where they can go to work, party and get drunk, and even have an Orgasm while getting paid for it. Think about it, when was the last time you ever got paid to party, get drunk, and have an Orgasm at work. In my work I usually have some asshole boss making what should be a normally stressful job even more stressful. Think about it! Now that Bar Girl job doesn’t sound so bad!
My opinion is the girls that don’t like sex or the exciting bar girl life style leave after a few weeks.
I had one good looking BG friend tell me she only boom booms good looking young guys. She is 25 and was proud to tell me that guys as young as 18 have selected her to boom boom. She told me she doesn't like old guys and she has never done anyone older than mid 40s and only nice looking guys. She complained to me that she can only get an Orgasm once in every 4 Bar Fines. Wow, tough job!! You have to remember these girls are not forced to have sex with anyone, they can accept or decline anyone’s offer.
I have also suggested other jobs to Bar Girls and other family members. They say they wouldn’t do that job because it doesn’t pay enough, so do nothing instead. That is why you have one person supporting a whole family. To them the BG job is better, it pays more and is easier work. Also their parents want things for their house and money for alcohol and girls feel a serious obligation to their extended family. Everything is the debt they owe to their family and they feel they come second. I honestly believe the men could leave home and do construction work elsewhere. But why do it if you can make your daughter or a foreigner support you.
Sorry if I sound heartless and cynical, but I’ve seen what I am describing too often. Originally I wanted to help “poor” bar girls that were unhappy or suicidal. Recently, I heard a "rescued" ex bar girl (who had even had caught SDTs while working) telling her younger friend it’s not a bad job and she should try it!
Big Johnson2
05-23-09, 19:08
Yeah she is trying to attend some college in Cebu which has an international program in Europe. No. I told her not to sale the kidney. I don’t think she will sale her kidney either. She thought I was up for it because of our mutual friend. This mutual friend I had offered her a loan a while back but nowhere near this much and this mutual friend has seen me wheel and deal in PI and knows of my financial situation.
I wouldn’t loan a family member this type of money unless they were on their deathbed with documented proof let alone a virtual stranger.
I don't know all girls in the Philippines, but I think they have learned that besides emergency sickness that money for college is the best way to get money. I do not believe 90% need money for school or are even going to school especially Bar Girls. Many of them never even graduated high school.
In the USA, strippers always say they are doing this to work their way through college. I had the chance to know a few well at a club and they confided in me, many had never graduated high school and the money was used for drugs or to support loser husbands or boyfriends, or maybe a single mom with a couple of children.
So guys unless you pay the tuition in person or see the actual receipt with her name on it, don't believe this lie.
to answer your questions :
- pc monitoring is key rather than phone/sms. especially if she's abroad, she'll use your computer to chat but also to sms. so, my choice was to create a profile for her and put eblaster to work for that profile; other systems exist but this one lets you receive chats instantly, precise copy of emails and alerts for key words like sex or other words that develop once your monitoring hits dirt (like [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) or the name of her bf back home). daily reports come only the next day, but in absolutely full & structured detail. then you send to a 'trusted friend' in the philippines for translation (do change the chat handles with 'replace all', or you are liable to blackmail by whoever will translate).
(http://www.spectorsoft.com/products/eblaster_windows/)
-phone monitoring has only one way.. you give her the same phone you have. you then download like for your own phone with installed software (any decent nokia has good sms history download function software).
-given the phony allegations of constant [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and other stories going around local and foreign acquaintances/friends/family, i had to move fast and put her to either admit all in front of camera or go back home next day. had she admit all, i would have tried it another month, cause i fell really really hard for that babe (19), and even though she had no pleasure in bed (i'm not trying to give any either), it was quite a decent and comfortable situation for both. she admitted she lied and admitted 20%. pushed further, she admitted 80% (the boyfriends, the plan to marry for limited time, the family pressure, etc...) but she just couldn't admit all the way, especially on the [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) allegations she had sent around and the responses / suggestions she received about it, so i reluctantly sent her to manilla the next morning. i miss her every day, and would even be so dumb to take her back later if things evolve. point is also it'll be extremely hard for me to sponsor another girl (visa wise) any time soon.
-regarding my life in eastern europe and more personal details and preferences, i renewed my subscription today and will pm you.
cheers,
ua freak
i really wanted to ask you some of these questions off line but you have no contact info displayed.
i see from your posts you used to frequent russia. i used to too, but haven't been back in 2 years because i find the philippines more lucrative. why did you give it up and are now in the phil?
how do you monitor her cell phone? i would like this ability too.
sorry to be so nosy, but how old are you since you want an 18 year old virgin to marry and live with you in europe?
are you still with this girl after she is saying that you are [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) her 3 times a day? this is a dangerous accusation for her to make.
Bill Buxton
05-25-09, 22:54
I think we need to reconsider that OUR opinion of the Bar Girl job and THEIR opinion of the job is quite different. We see it as bad and don't want someone we care about there. They see it as a pretty good job for a girl from their province. As many as 20% of the girls from some villages go to be bar girls. One BG told me it was "EASY MONEY" and she was glad to work there because she could buy color TV, DVD player, iPod, colored contacts lenses, expensive cell phone, etc. They are NOT just fucking to feed their family as you can see. It's good job for someone with their skills considering many never graduated high school.
I realize now that I was more upset about “nice” girls working as Bar Girls than they were. Now, I’m not sure if “rescuing” them from the bar girl lifestyle is the right thing to do. I know of two girls that older men became there BF and got them to leave. Within 2 months both were back working there. I’m not sure if they are still getting the money from the men, but my guess is they are. A girl that knows them told me they came back because, "it’s boring in the province and they are just horny".
The job has lots of fringe benefits: it can provide food and sometimes it is a big party, and it pays a lot too, and if you like sex even better. It's a status symbol to have a foreign guy, so they get their egos boosted because foreign guys want them. The ultimate fringe benefit would be to get a foreign boyfriend, sponsor, or husband or maybe even a couple of boyfriends if they are real dishonest. Most of these girls have already had sex with poor Filipino guys for free, so now they can make money for it. They have a job, where they can go to work, party and get drunk, and even have an Orgasm while getting paid for it. Think about it, when was the last time you ever got paid to party, get drunk, and have an Orgasm at work. In my work I usually have some asshole boss making what should be a normally stressful job even more stressful. Think about it! Now that Bar Girl job doesn’t sound so bad!
My opinion is the girls that don’t like sex or the exciting bar girl life style leave after a few weeks.
I had one good looking BG friend tell me she only boom booms good looking young guys. She is 25 and was proud to tell me that guys as young as 18 have selected her to boom boom. She told me she doesn't like old guys and she has never done anyone older than mid 40s and only nice looking guys. She complained to me that she can only get an Orgasm once in every 4 Bar Fines. Wow, tough job!! You have to remember these girls are not forced to have sex with anyone, they can accept or decline anyone’s offer.
I have also suggested other jobs to Bar Girls and other family members. They say they wouldn’t do that job because it doesn’t pay enough, so do nothing instead. That is why you have one person supporting a whole family. To them the BG job is better, it pays more and is easier work. Also their parents want things for their house and money for alcohol and girls feel a serious obligation to their extended family. Everything is the debt they owe to their family and they feel they come second. I honestly believe the men could leave home and do construction work elsewhere. But why do it if you can make your daughter or a foreigner support you.
Sorry if I sound heartless and cynical, but I’ve seen what I am describing too often. Originally I wanted to help “poor” bar girls that were unhappy or suicidal. Recently, I heard a "rescued" ex bar girl (who had even had caught SDTs while working) telling her younger friend it’s not a bad job and she should try it!This is a nice post,sounds like you do more than a week a year with this inside scoop.
B.B.
Orangevale Rob
06-03-09, 04:00
I don't know all girls in the Philippines, but I think they have learned that besides emergency sickness that money for college is the best way to get money. I do not believe 90% need money for school or are even going to school especially Bar Girls. Many of them never even graduated high school.
In the USA, strippers always say they are doing this to work their way through college. I had the chance to know a few well at a club and they confided in me, many had never graduated high school and the money was used for drugs or to support loser husbands or boyfriends, or maybe a single mom with a couple of children.
So guys unless you pay the tuition in person or see the actual receipt with her name on it, don't believe this lie.I think this is true. Every woman in the Phils says she's in college or a college graduate... but I thought they taught college in English there. Funny that sometimes their English is pretty darned poor for a college graduate.
Anyway, as far as bar girls go, the ones in the US do the exact same thing. They're all college girls if you ask them. I always ask them what their major is and it's funny when they can't answer. :)
I think this is true. Every woman in the Phils says she's in college or a college graduate... but I thought they taught college in English there. Funny that sometimes their English is pretty darned poor for a college graduate.
Anyway, as far as bar girls go, the ones in the US do the exact same thing. They're all college girls if you ask them. I always ask them what their major is and it's funny when they can't answer. :)
I have come across the same thing in DIA. Even 30 year old girls say they are studying. What the heck are they studying?
There is a saying in U.S. ( Once you go black you will never go back). Same thing regarding bargirls. Once they find out how easy to make money opening their legs they will never likely to stop. I had supported a cherry girl from Ac bar through college. She gave me her cherry but was very careless about the money thinking she can always go back to the bar and can make easy money.
Street Hound
06-04-09, 05:19
I think this is true. Every woman in the Phils says she's in college or a college graduate... but I thought they taught college in English there. Funny that sometimes their English is pretty darned poor for a college graduate.A couple points. First, primary and secondary school is only til 10th grade (6 years elementary, 4 years high school, with no jr. High / middle school). So college isn't necessarily the same thing in the Phils. That it is in more developed countries.
Second, the quality of colleges varies widely. While there are some very good Universities, I visited others which were just diploma mills. For instance, I've encountered several universities with computer science programs with no computers! And have met plenty of college grads with very poor English.
Orangevale Rob
06-12-09, 04:45
Ok, I find myself in a weird spot. I met this girl online at one of the dating sites. She asks if I am really from the town that is listed in my profile. I say yes. She says "great, I am coming to work there! " So, this girl is coming to work in my city, apparently she has the work permits and everything, and she's going to fly here soon. I have chatted with this girl minimally, maybe a total of an hour, and she wants me to pick her up at the airport and she wants to stay with me at my house.
So. Alarm bells are going off. It just feels strange. I guess she's still got the Filipina "white guys are fantastic" mindset, which of course she's going to lose in about 1 week here. But I sure wouldn't mind some free stuff.
Anyone got any thoughts on that?
FreebieFan
06-12-09, 09:49
Ok, I find myself in a weird spot. I met this girl online at one of the dating sites. She asks if I am really from the town that is listed in my profile. I say yes. She says "great, I am coming to work there! " So, this girl is coming to work in my city, apparently she has the work permits and everything, and she's going to fly here soon. I have chatted with this girl minimally, maybe a total of an hour, and she wants me to pick her up at the airport and she wants to stay with me at my house.
So. Alarm bells are going off. It just feels strange. I guess she's still got the Filipina "white guys are fantastic" mindset, which of course she's going to lose in about 1 week here. But I sure wouldn't mind some free stuff.
Anyone got any thoughts on that?She won't show. Or she will find a better offer. They all start off super enthusiastic then move onto the next one. Remember. Were all searching in chat sites for Manila / Under 25 / Slim etc. Highly likely that maybe shes doing the same. Get some verification about what shes doing and saying etc. Don't be suprised if this enthusiasm burns out quickly.
Darth Sushi
06-12-09, 12:20
Ok, I find myself in a weird spot. I met this girl online at one of the dating sites. She asks if I am really from the town that is listed in my profile. I say yes. She says "great, I am coming to work there! " So, this girl is coming to work in my city, apparently she has the work permits and everything, and she's going to fly here soon. I have chatted with this girl minimally, maybe a total of an hour, and she wants me to pick her up at the airport and she wants to stay with me at my house.
So. Alarm bells are going off. It just feels strange. I guess she's still got the Filipina "white guys are fantastic" mindset, which of course she's going to lose in about 1 week here. But I sure wouldn't mind some free stuff.
Anyone got any thoughts on that?Just don't give out your address in the interim. Personally, I would try the "I'm being deployed to Afghanistan so I can't pick you up at the airport" or "I'm being relocated to a new city and I cannot tell you where under the witness protection program! :D
Orangevale Rob
06-13-09, 05:50
Actually I think it burned out before my conversation with her was done.
I didn't want to blow her off, especially if she needed a place to stay, but the whole thing just struck me as wierd. But then if I picked her up at the airport, I would know if she just came from the Phils. I'm not too concerned with being ripped off, unless some crime syndicate is sending 25-year-olds half way across the world to get into my house and steal my LCD TV.
So, anyway, haven't heard back yet, still don't know what's really going on.
She won't show. Or she will find a better offer. They all start off super enthusiastic then move onto the next one. Remember. Were all searching in chat sites for Manila / Under 25 / Slim etc. Highly likely that maybe shes doing the same. Get some verification about what shes doing and saying etc. Don't be suprised if this enthusiasm burns out quickly.
Ok, I find myself in a weird spot. I met this girl online at one of the dating sites. She asks if I am really from the town that is listed in my profile. I say yes. She says "great, I am coming to work there! " So, this girl is coming to work in my city, apparently she has the work permits and everything, and she's going to fly here soon. I have chatted with this girl minimally, maybe a total of an hour, and she wants me to pick her up at the airport and she wants to stay with me at my house.
So. Alarm bells are going off. It just feels strange. I guess she's still got the Filipina "white guys are fantastic" mindset, which of course she's going to lose in about 1 week here. But I sure wouldn't mind some free stuff.
Anyone got any thoughts on that?Beware that this may be phase #1 of a long con. I wouldn't be surprised if she later tells you that there's a problem and that she needs your help with a ticket, or some other stupid shit.
Call me paranoid, but in my short period of messing with Filipinas, I've encountered some of the boldest liars I have ever known.
GoodEnough
06-13-09, 11:43
I can well understand the alarm bells, but there's always the chance that she's telling the truth. Why not just tell her to send you and email or give you a call once she arrives? If that never happens, you will have lost nothing. If she asks for "help" getting there, I've found that the word "no" is one of the most effective, and underused words in the English language.
Nightrider1
06-13-09, 12:40
I can well understand the alarm bells, but there's always the chance that she's telling the truth. Why not just tell her to send you and email or give you a call once she arrives? If that never happens, you will have lost nothing. If she asks for "help" getting there, I've found that the word "no" is one of the most effective, and underused words in the English language.
I just wanted to give "GOOD ENOUGH" a long overdue attaboy for all his insiteful and integient posts here on this board. As a long time resident of Davao and frequent traveler to other cities there ,he is uniquely qualified to help all of us part time visitors. I met him in person and he is friendly guy too. For all you long time readers of this board to me he is just as good as " CEBU LOCAL" who we have not seen here in a long time but when he was posting he was the best source for Philippine info. I just wanted to give a public THANKYOU
GoodEnough
06-13-09, 16:04
Thanks very much for the kind words. I'm glad that anyone finds any of my comments helpful.
GE
Orangevale Rob
06-14-09, 08:43
Status Update:
Total Scamsville. She's asking for money now. Details and chat transcript to follow.
Orangevale Rob
06-14-09, 19:35
At the end I was going to try to get her to show me her tits, but I didn't get that far. I took off half her name to protect the guilty, I don't know why, but I suspect from "alexisclaire" you could figure it out if you knew her. I met her on CB I think.
A pretty good scam though. She had the name of a hospital in my town, she had full flight details about a flight here from Manila (I should have suspected when earlier she asked what the nearest airport was). Pretty convincing. I never would have fallen for it when she asked for money, but up until that point I was hooked pretty well.
alexisclaire: ohhhhh
alexisclaire: thanks
alexisclaire: pls invite your cam
Rob: my cam is not on this computer
alexisclaire: i seeee
alexisclaire: hope your still iterested to meet me there in xxxx
Rob: yes, of course
alexisclaire: ohhh i will try to call you whats your number
alexisclaire: i wanna hear your voice
Rob: it's x-xxxxxxxxxx, but the battery is dead.
alexisclaire: ohhh
alexisclaire: ok
Rob: where did you go the other night?
alexisclaire: i got dc
alexisclaire: power interuption
Rob: so you will be here on the 20th?
alexisclaire: im still a lil worried but mama is trying
Rob: you don't have a ticket yet?
alexisclaire: going there
alexisclaire: its sponsored by the employer
alexisclaire: no problem on that
alexisclaire: rob im a lil bit worrie dbecause i need to go to manila
alexisclaire: and if i cant go to manila for the orientation
alexisclaire: they will replaced me
Rob: oh no
alexisclaire: thats why mama is trying to raised the money
Rob: well i hope she does
alexisclaire: i hope you can help me rob
alexisclaire: i only need a lil help and promise to pay you when im there
Rob: what city do you live in now?
alexisclaire: siugay province
Rob: what city?
alexisclaire: ipil
alexisclaire: i will try to call you
alexisclaire: it end up at voice call
Rob: the battery is dead, I can't answer it
alexisclaire: rob plsss help me
alexisclaire: plsssss
alexisclaire: i will pay you when im there
alexisclaire: plssss
Rob: how much do you need?
alexisclaire: 350
alexisclaire: dollars
alexisclaire: if i cant go manila tommorrow
alexisclaire: i will be replaced
Rob: Well, maybe I can help you when I get to Philippines
alexisclaire: this is my only chance to be there in the usa
alexisclaire: when you get here
alexisclaire: my visa is not good anymore
alexisclaire: really want to work there
alexisclaire: plssss
alexisclaire: im begging you
alexisclaire: plssss
Rob: But I spent all my money on plane tickets and hotels in Asia, I have nothing in the bank right now.
alexisclaire: i only need 350 rob...and on the 20th i will be there
alexisclaire: and i will recieved 10,000 dollars from my employer there as my initial allowance
alexisclaire: i will be well compensated there
alexisclaire: my salary range is 25-35 dollars
alexisclaire: plsssss
alexisclaire: per hour
alexisclaire: plssss
alexisclaire: help me
alexisclaire: this is my only oppurtunity
Rob: I don't know.
alexisclaire: to be there working in xxxxx hospital
alexisclaire: and i dont want to be replaced
alexisclaire: and you dont want to help me
alexisclaire: im just running out of time
alexisclaire: ok i will go now
Rob: it sounds like you really need the money
alexisclaire: for me to be there
alexisclaire: yes i do
alexisclaire: been my dream to be there
Rob: yes, it is the dream of many people to be here.
Rob: I understand.
alexisclaire: ill go now
alexisclaire: im sorry that i ask you
Rob: But maybe you can do some small thing for me, to show that you are serious.
alexisclaire: bye for now
Rob: OK, well I see that you are not serious at all. You are wasting my time.
alexisclaire: hope to talk to you some other time
Rob: Do not bother, you're not serious.
alexisclaire: ok
Rob: You are trying to scam me, I know your tricks.
alexisclaire: whats that
alexisclaire: what tricks
Rob: I ask you for a small sign to show that you are serious and you can't even give me that, so I know you are not for real.
alexisclaire: what sign
Rob: no, no, it's ok, you have to go. Have a good night.
alexisclaire: ok
Yes, it is the women's national sport to do so. For hospital bills, electric bills, Smartbro internet, tuition fee... enrollment fee.
You can answer these questions simply by asking for the name of the bank where you can transfer the money to.
And details like IBAN number, account number and invoice number.
I am sure schools, hospitals, Meralco Electricity etc. have bank accounts sometimes even with more than one bank.
Overseas workers transfer money this way.. and it is becoming more and more common in Phils. to use bank accounts for private purposes too.
Then the reply is mostly Westen Union or Xoom.
For me that's not an option.
I just wanted to give "GOOD ENOUGH" a long overdue attaboy for all his insiteful and integient posts here on this board. As a long time resident of Davao and frequent traveler to other cities there ,he is uniquely qualified to help all of us part time visitors. I met him in person and he is friendly guy too. For all you long time readers of this board to me he is just as good as " CEBU LOCAL" who we have not seen here in a long time but when he was posting he was the best source for Philippine info. I just wanted to give a public THANKYOU
I will second that. I also work and live here, and have met GE.
GoodEnough
06-15-09, 10:53
Again, thank you for the kind words. I'm now here in your fair city with a couple of friends and colleagues from work. I'm staying as always at the Garden Orchid. The food has not gotten any better since my last trip a couple of weeks ago, but the staff is so pleasant, that it's relaxing to stay here.
Tomorrow, I'll get the afternoon flight to Davao, then wait four hours or so for the flight to CDO where I will be for four nights, again with the same guys.
GE
I just wanted to give "GOOD ENOUGH" a long overdue attaboy for all his insiteful and integient posts here on this board. As a long time resident of Davao and frequent traveler to other cities there ,he is uniquely qualified to help all of us part time visitors. I met him in person and he is friendly guy too. For all you long time readers of this board to me he is just as good as " CEBU LOCAL" who we have not seen here in a long time but when he was posting he was the best source for Philippine info. I just wanted to give a public THANKYOU
GE is our version of Old Thai Hand only GE is very kind. LOL
Starchild2012
06-17-09, 15:58
Yes, it is the women's national sport to do so. For hospital bills, electric bills, Smartbro internet, tuition fee... enrollment fee.
You can answer these questions simply by asking for the name of the bank where you can transfer the money to.
And details like IBAN number, account number and invoice number.
I am sure schools, hospitals, Meralco Electricity etc. have bank accounts sometimes even with more than one bank.
Overseas workers transfer money this way.. and it is becoming more and more common in Phils. to use bank accounts for private purposes too.
Then the reply is mostly Westen Union or Xoom.
For me that's not an option.
It depends on time...the more i live here, the more i find how to filter the money askers and get the freebies....More and more i find complete freebies and when i arrived here....it was exact opposite..i think the place adjusts you accourding to your taste.
Anyway, Filipino women ask moeny, but if you dont give or excuse it...you will still have her in your bed some time or the other.
They dont push or DEMAND money...if you say no it means NO
It depends on time...the more i live here, the more i find how to filter the money askers and get the freebies....More and more i find complete freebies and when i arrived here....it was exact opposite..i think the place adjusts you accourding to your taste.
Anyway, Filipino women ask moeny, but if you dont give or excuse it...you will still have her in your bed some time or the other.
They dont push or DEMAND money...if you say no it means NO
There is nothing free unless you want to screw older women. All young girls want money from you for shopping, internet, gifts for it is their birthday ( one girl even had two birthday in a year, she thought I forgot).
Yes, they have no problem jumping into sack with you initially.
But sooner or later they need a phone because she lost it or broke it etc.
I am not complaining. I do not mind giving them money because I got good sex, good companionship from normal girls. Only difference between them and the bar girl is , bargirls want money beforehand and they are pretty much ready to have sex with anybody for money. Normal girls will want money afterwards and if she is doing it for money all the time you will never know. Most of the normal girls are honest in philippines and you can even visit their home to make sure.
Taken From The Makati Board
Honestly, I understand the difficulties that black people have with racism a lot of the time, and I can sympathise, because I didn't always get a fair shake from people either. I won't go into that. Anyway, I've always felt, as a white guy, that black guys had a big advantage in meeting white women. Maybe that was just my interpretation, but there are a lot of times I felt like if I were black I would have an easier time meeting white women. They seem drawn to black guys like... well, like Filipinas are apparently drawn to white guys.
I been aiming to address your post forgive me for the tardiness. Some white women like black men some wouldn’t be caught at a Michael Vick dog fight with one. Black men have no advantage with White women. Filipinas are not drawn to white men also. I think these are pretenses you have conjured up in your mind.
I think this is myth perpetuated by guys who have met Filipinas working in the Middle-East earning $100 (and need a foreigner to amplify their remittances to family members back home) a month or old military types who never got away from the bars. Filipinas like their own. Do you ever watch Pinoy TV? I do.
They SETTLE for us foreigners once they know their chances of landing a rich Pinoy boyfriend is out the window. Now once they settle for us foreigners then they prefer a white guy (white skin, perceived friendliness, perceived wealth, education etc social status.)
I troll the malls here in upscale areas. I see the occasionally expat with the Filipina but 9 out of 10 times the girls look bad(Bad body. Brown provincial type)…nothing a Filipino man with a good job would touch with Bin Laden’s dick. (It's even worse for the those of a dark skin orgin). Hell for that matter check out ISG. Only and I mean only Amivida has shown the panache to post photos of the girls the natives (with good jobs) prefer.
Two weeks ago I saw some pretty Filipinas with some western guys. But these Caucasian guys looked the part. They were young, fit, dressed well. Nothing like your typical sex tourist they looked like they would have had no problem picking up women anywhere in the world.
I know this place has been mythicized as some sort of sexual paradise (which it is as long as you stick to the bars and poor folk) but reality is women are women. There are Filipinas in the US also……
There is only one person on ISG who has had the "panache" to post pictures of a lighter skinned, more Spanish looking Filipina??? (my interpretation of what Filipino guys find attractive / also commonly seen on Phil TV)
Wow....I can't think of anything nice, nor interesting to write, so I'll stop right here.
X
Taken From The Makati Board
I been aiming to address your post forgive me for the tardiness. Some white women like black men some wouldn’t be caught at a Michael Vick dog fight with one. Black men have no advantage with White women. Filipinas are not drawn to white men also. I think these are pretenses you have conjured up in your mind.
I think this is myth perpetuated by guys who have met Filipinas working in the Middle-East earning $100 (and need a foreigner to amplify their remittances to family members back home) a month or old military types who never got away from the bars. Filipinas like their own. Do you ever watch Pinoy TV? I do.
They SETTLE for us foreigners once they know their chances of landing a rich Pinoy boyfriend is out the window. Now once they settle for us foreigners then they prefer a white guy (white skin, perceived friendliness, perceived wealth, education etc social status.)
I troll the malls here in upscale areas. I see the occasionally expat with the Filipina but 9 out of 10 times the girls look bad(Bad body. Brown provincial type)…nothing a Filipino man with a good job would touch with Bin Laden’s dick. (It's even worse for the those of a dark skin orgin). Hell for that matter check out ISG. Only and I mean only Amivida has shown the panache to post photos of the girls the natives (with good jobs) prefer.
Two weeks ago I saw some pretty Filipinas with some western guys. But these Caucasian guys looked the part. They were young, fit, dressed well. Nothing like your typical sex tourist they looked like they would have had no problem picking up women anywhere in the world.
I know this place has been mythicized as some sort of sexual paradise (which it is as long as you stick to the bars and poor folk) but reality is women are women. There are Filipinas in the US also……
Wow....I can't think of anything nice, nor interesting to write, so I'll stop right here.
Yet another post (yawn) with the usual racial overtones by a guy who is not comfortable in his own skin!
There is only one person on ISG who has had the "panache" to post pictures of a lighter skinned, more Spanish looking Filipina??? (my interpretation of what Filipino guys find attractive / also commonly seen on Phil TV)
Wow....I can't think of anything nice, nor interesting to write, so I'll stop right here.
X
X say what you want to say man. If have something that is not nice say it. What did I say that is untrue man. I live here.
Yet another post (yawn) with the usual racial overtones by a guy who is not comfortable in his own skin!
Did I start this discussion on race? Did you read the quote above my post? If I offended you my apologies what did I say that upset you?
I address a guy's post and you come out and attacking. Sounds like you are the uncomfortable one.
What I wrote is not a fact but is an opinion based on my time on ground and my personal taste(and what I see on the arms of those Hi-so Pinoys) if you don't like what I said or disagree then write a piece stating why you disagree but attacking me... have I ever attacked you? I mention race in my post because I am Black guy living in Asia. I know for some of you guys this is not an issue.
Very recently I asked what where the girls like in Indonesia in terms of personality. Now I didn’t mention my race at all but one ISG member who recognized me from the PI boards right away said they didn’t like Blacks’. Did I attack this guy as you just did? Nope. I only tried to reason with him.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=961&page=3&pp=15&highlight=black+men
Not a month goes by that some ISG member pops up to take a shot at me for some imagined slight. If you don't like my Yawns put me on your ignore list...but attacking me says a lot more about you than me.
Just because people express surprise and disappointment with something you wrote, doesn't mean they are attacking YOU. You should look at it as if we are disagreeing with your message.
You know, when I see an older foreign guy with an older, overweight Filipina, I assume he married her 15 or 20 years earlier when she was a hottie. It's nice to see that bi-cultural marriages can last.
You on the other hand see something else. You have a right to your opinion, but if you put it here on the message board you shouldn't respond to criticism with "ignore" me. You are lowering yourself to the level of the guy you seem to think has "panache"!
Anyway, if you don't the looks of other men's women, nor like the pictures people post on the message board, you shouldn't look at them! :-)
X
X say what you want to say man. If have something that is not nice say it. What did I say that is untrue man. I live here. .
Just because people express surprise and disappointment with something you wrote, doesn't mean they are attacking YOU. You should look at it as if we are disagreeing with your message.
You on the other hand see something else. You have a right to your opinion, but if you put it here on the message board you shouldn't respond to criticism with "ignore" me. You are lowering yourself to the level of the guy you seem to think has "panache"!
Anyway, if you don't the looks of other men's women, nor like the pictures people post on the message board, you shouldn't look at them! :-)
X
Why criticize me?... criticize the post bruh. I look at all the photos. But AV is the only one I see that post photos of girls that I genuinely find attractive and that what most Pinoys (with good jobs) I think would find attractive. What is wrong with that? Everyone has their own taste in women. Most if not all the girls I barfine I don't really find that attractive but if they willing to give me wild night in bed....than that outweighs everything esle....
Puerto La Cruz
06-23-09, 01:19
Hahahahahaha
Cuz he does that frequently to anybody.
Have another Strohs X
When you are not drunk you are a valuable contrubutor.
This is rich coming from a guy who has made false accusations and personal attacks, rarely posts anything of merit, and apparently seems to think he's cute by revealing personal information about members.
And didn't someone warn you about misspellings when you attack people?
X
Hahahahahaha
Cuz he does that frequently to anybody.
Have another Strohs X
When you are not drunk you are a valuable contrubutor.
FreebieFan
06-23-09, 10:24
Ok. Moving on from the teenage spat that seems to have occurred a few posts back, heres a question.?
Anyone encountered girls who prefer their sex a bit "rougher " than normal. My regular from Famfanga loves a bit of spanking, and weve had a bit of name calling in the throes of passion.
Was chattting yesterday with another regular who I've bonked twice on past two trips and she asked if next time I could spank her hard, pull her hair, called her a ****, bang her hard and rough, and generally treat her badly. Says she prefers it that way.
Whatever you want honey!
Anyone else had any experiences on these lines?
FreebieFan
06-25-09, 02:38
Well as luck would have it, was chatting today with my student friend. The one who wants me to pull her hair on our next bonk.
Anyways she recently started going back to college, somewhere in Ortigas and was telling me that the professor of one particular course is bonking not only one of her friends but also bonking another girl in class.
This is the kind of job for which I'm adequately qualified LOL
She also advised that one of the girls was "faking it" as the professor had a small weenie and the girl had complained there was insufficient "friction".
Have to love the way these ladies gossip.
Fredje1961
06-25-09, 06:53
Yes, I did
With a freebie in Hong Kong, a pinay OFW had her day off on Sunday and we spent most of the time in my hotel room.
Name calling, slapping on her butt and in her face, pulling her hair, pinching nipples, anything was welcome.
She was wild.
Ok. Moving on from the teenage spat that seems to have occurred a few posts back, heres a question.?
Anyone encountered girls who prefer their sex a bit "rougher " than normal. My regular from Famfanga loves a bit of spanking, and weve had a bit of name calling in the throes of passion.
Was chattting yesterday with another regular who I've bonked twice on past two trips and she asked if next time I could spank her hard, pull her hair, called her a ****, bang her hard and rough, and generally treat her badly. Says she prefers it that way.
Whatever you want honey!
Anyone else had any experiences on these lines?
A few weeks ago, I posted my first report on the Phils, and here is an excerpt from that post (about a girl from LA Cafe):
Girl #4 - Paid her 2,500/day. Had her for three days. Met her upstairs. Initially, the Mamasan intro'd me to a girl who I thought was very cute and very doable, and was very very flirty with me. I then asked to see her ID, and she said she didn't have any. Anyway, that freaked me out, and she then told me that she did have a guest two weeks prior (a Korean, like me) who she was stopped with by police, near the Hyatt, and she had no ID, and the Korean had to pay the cop like 5,000 pesos.
She then said she had a friend who had ID, and told Mamasan to bring her friend, who was out on her first day back to LA Cafe after a three year hiatus. This girl was fairly attractive, and a total spinner. I like spinners, but I like spinners that are busty. She wasn't busty, but good enough.
Long story short, she was working at LA Cafe about three years ago, but due to too many bad experiences (getting robbed, beaten, etc) she stopped. It is only due to her mother recently being hospitalized and released that she came back temporarily.
She also has a 2 year old child with her first boyfriend, a Korean man, who is nowhere to be found now. Anyway, I spent the last three of my last four days with her (the second night I wanted her, she was not at LA Cafe, so I took out Girl #3 from this report instead). The second time I met her, I got her number.
Anyway, I gave her 2,500 PHP the first two days. The last day I gave her 5,000 PHP. I am not in love with this girl by any means, nor do I have strong feelings for her, and while not exactly the best in bed, she is a nice and subservient girl and possibly someone I can be with for a fairly good number of years. Long-term GF material, I think.
I've been with many working girls, and have seen/worked with many, and they rarely come as 'pure-hearted' as her. So while emotionally I may not be all that attached to her or have strong feelings for her, she's a very good choice if you look at it pragmatically (apart from the kid, but I'm not marrying her) as she is thin (a must), conservative, soft spoken, hard working, submissive, good-hearted.
Anybody else have experience with a girl in the Phils? Taking one on as GF material?
I have been texting her everyday via Skype, and calling her 1~2 times a week since my return back to Korea and the USA. The last time we spoke, she got another call, and I could overhear part of her conversation on the other phone, saying, "I'll call you back, I'm on the phone with my boyfriend." Chances are she was speaking with her Korean friend, who called her frequently when we were together in Manila (hence, communication in English). That particular phone call, by the way, upon saying goodbye, she told me "Love you", but as I'm not a liar, I didn't tell her I loved her. I just said "ah, you take care". She then said it again, so I told her, "ok" and said goodbye. After all, I don't love her, and I find it strange that she can love me so quickly as well (and after three meetings).
So what's the point of this post? Well, my feelings for her are still not strong, though I did experience something strange. While in Manila, she'd told me she didn't have an e-mail address, as she hadn't been online in a long time and her e-mail address was either canceled due to lack of activity, or she forgot it (I forget which). Fine.
I still gave her mine, and told her to e-mail me, which she finally did today at approximately 1:00 AM, Manila time. In it, her message said:
hi tart how are you??
i hope you undertand im always busy
miss you tart.
take care always.
According to her, 'tart' means something like '자기야' in Korean, which is something like 'honey', or 'sweetie' in English, I suppose. So, while it was nice to get the e-mail from her, I decided to do some searching with her e-mail address.
First stop: Friendster. I checked her e-mail address on Friendster, and lo and behold, she has a profile. She's been a member since June 2009. Based on when she uploaded her photos and when she added friends (all three of them), I've concluded her account is two weeks old.
No problem, I think she was telling the truth about not having an e-mail address. So she created one recently, and used it to start her Friendster account. According to her Friendster, she is "in a relationship". Could that be me? Also, she is "Interested in: Relationship with Men".
On top of that, the 'banner' thing at the top of her page says, ""hi guys!please add me up @ xxxxx@yahoo.com...tnx!""
She has a total of three friends, and 16 pictures, 12 of them being family, 4 of them being her. In one photo of her, which looks a few years old (one photo of her did have a timestamp of 2005), you can make out and see the 'stamp' that LA Cafe puts on your wrist when you go upstairs. I don't know for sure if it's LA Cafe, but it's a circular stamp, and it's very faded, and every time we were in LA Cafe, she would try to scrub it off but would fail to get all of it off... That's what it looks like in the photo.
Now, the weird part... after the e-mail she sent me, she sent me another one 21 minutes later. It said:
hello ,tart always miss... u
take care always.,,,
I thought to myself, "Why is she sending me this again? Perhaps she thought the first mail didn't go through." At that point, I saw the other text below, and saw that this e-mail was in response to someone else... someone named Dan, and my name is not Dan. By the way, Dan, based on his e-mail address and surname, is someone from Hong Kong I'm guessing.
This is the actual full e-mail:
hello ,tart always miss... u
take care always.,,,
-------------------------------------
From: Dan **** <********@hotmail.com>
To: **** Manila <********@yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 10:34:25 PM
Subject: Sweetie
Huney, please send me an email when you can, I'm trying to reach you po.
Take care,
Dan
So Dan e-mailed her on June 20, and she responds about a week later (June 27~28 depending on where you live), but instead of responding to only him, she responds to it by sending the response to me! It was not that I got a CC... I was the "To" recipient. The only way Dan got her response was if she BCC'd him.
Obviously she is corresponding with other men (well at least one other man). I can't say I was happy about it, but I was barely upset. I'd expected it, as I did tell her we could be very flexible in our dating, and that I didn't mind if she saw other men so long as she told me about it.
The question now is whether or not I should call her on it. I could do so, but it would cause embarrassment for her and it wouldn't solve anything that couldn't be solved in other ways.
Looking at it from her perspective, she doesn't know for sure I'll ever come back to see her, or to marry her. Even in my previous post I said I wasn't going to. So, I see this as keeping her options open, as I'm sure her eventual goal is marriage to a decent guy who will take care of her and her child. I can't be upset about that, can I?
I think the best thing for me to do is to just pretend I don't know anything, and continue to play this game. After all, I, too and talking to other women, so to break it off because of something I'm doing as well would be hypocritical. I don't believe love is real anyway, it is only an illusion, and that marriage is not about love it's about being pragmatic (for women). It is why I've never told a girl I've loved her.
Who knows? If someday I do move to the Philippines and she is still single (or, at the most, she's just corresponding with a bunch of guys online/overseas), I wouldn't mind being in a LTR with her. So long as she dumps all her cyber/phone boyfriends.
What do you guys think? I know some of you seem to know a lot about the Phils and about Filipinas. Is this girl still a 'good' girl and just keeping her options open? Or is she stringing a bunch of guys along for... whatever it is?
By the way, she has never asked me for money. Apart from giving her money after taking her out from LA Cafe, she has never said on the phone to send her money. She instead tells me in about two months she's going to start work in Boracay with a six-month contract, and that she wants me to visit her there, so long as I'm at a hotel far from where she works!
Well, you Filipina veterans, esp. those of you who have been in relationships with them, I'd like to hear your opinions and advice. Thank you all.
A few weeks ago, I posted my first report on the Phils, and here is an excerpt from that post (about a girl from LA Cafe):
Well, you Filipina veterans, esp. those of you who have been in relationships with them, I'd like to hear your opinions and advice. Thank you all.
Man this has been discussed a 1000 times. If she is a bar girl and her lips are moving she is lying.
You met her at LA Cafe....enough said. Man if you want a girl to play house with there are a lot of good girls in PI to do this with. These bar girls will tell you anything...The last one I fucked (see my last report on the Manila board) at least she told me she had a Black boyfriend in Japan sending her money every month and even showed me his photo.....LOL. He texted her while we were butt-ass in bed saying he wanted to chat right that instant. She told him she couldn't make it.
These girls keep in contact with a lot of men and line as many up as possible. You are a potential money source (boyfriend, husband, sponsor, customer) nothing more....
Chocha Monger
06-28-09, 02:29
Man this has been discussed a 1000 times. If she is a bar girl and her lips are moving she is lying.
You met her at LA Cafe....enough said. Man if you want a girl to play house with there are a lot of good girls in PI to do this with. These bar girls will tell you anything...I the last one I fucked (see my last report on the Manila board) at least she told me she had a Black boyfriend in Japan sending her money every month and even showed me his photo.....LOL. He texted her while we were butt-ass in bed saying he wanted to chat right that instant. She told him she couldn't make it.
These girls keep in contact with a lot of men and line as many up as possible. You are a potential money source (boyfriend, husband, sponsor, customer) nothing more....
Byung,
I'm just going to add one more thing. You used the words "subservient" and "submissive" to describe this girl. Hopefully, you don't believe the myth of the submissive Asian female. These women are not subservient it is just an act to get you to lower your guard. They know that they can get more out of you that way. She'll make you think that you're in control and then take your balls when you least expect it. Many guys have found this out the hard way. Don't set yourself up to be taken for a ride.
Man this has been discussed a 1000 times. If she is a bar girl and her lips are moving she is lying.
You met her at LA Cafe....enough said. Man if you want a girl to play house with there are a lot of good girls in PI to do this with. These bar girls will tell you anything...The last one I fucked (see my last report on the Manila board) at least she told me she had a Black boyfriend in Japan sending her money every month and even showed me his photo.....LOL. He texted her while we were butt-ass in bed saying he wanted to chat right that instant. She told him she couldn't make it.
These girls keep in contact with a lot of men and line as many up as possible. You are a potential money source (boyfriend, husband, sponsor, customer) nothing more....
Illogic, I read all your posts (at least for the past month or so), I find them the most entertaining on the Philippines forum. Thanks for the entertainment and info.
Yes, I realize I'm a potential money source, as you said, possibly as a boyfriend or husband. I also believe that is the case with most women, 'working' or not. As I said, I do not believe love is real, but smart women can make it seem real.
The issue is whether or not I should call her on it; for now, I still think I'm going to not say anything. Sometime soon mention to her that I've found someone else, and when I go back to Manila, see if she's still 'single', and have fun with her then.
Byung,
I'm just going to add one more thing. You used the words "subservient" and "submissive" to describe this girl. Hopefully, you don't believe the myth of the submissive Asian female. These women are not subservient it is just an act to get you to lower your guard. They know that they can get more out of you that way. She'll make you think that you're in control and then take your balls when you least expect it. Many guys have found this out the hard way. Don't set yourself up to be taken for a ride.
Well, being Asian myself (Korean), I don't believe it, as I've seen how 'tough' Korean women can be. If anything, I think some Japanese women may be submissive, but yes, I know it's a 'myth' for the most part.
This girl truly does seem to be that way, or she's a regular Meryl Streep. Either way, I'm not sending her any money, and so far she hasn't asked for it. I suspect she may a month or two down the line, in which case I'll have to say goodbye... and of course say 'hello' when I arrive at MNL again. =)
Thanks for your concern, though.
GoodEnough
06-28-09, 05:26
Direct verbal confrontation (of the verbal kind) is, as those of us who have lived here long enough know, an unsatisfactory tactic for resolving anything. This is not a culture that encourages directness in any field of human endeavor and the sort of Westernized direct, confrontational style will not work here. All that such an approach will provoke is more shaded truth or outright lies to cover up the prior outright lies. Life is not about truth here, but about saving face.
As long as you accept the fact that you will never know the whole truth, at least as most of us understand the term, there's no need to confront anyone about anything that they would perceive as unpleasant.
GE
Rubio Tonto
06-29-09, 11:47
Byung, look at it this way: you have almost guaranteed sex if you visit her in Boracay. You probably won't have to spend much on her to get it. That pretty much sums it up. No more, no less.
ShadowAxis
06-30-09, 01:50
My first GF here in the Philippines was a bar girl I had met in Malaysia. The moment I stopped making "buy" signals, she had other guys lined up. Actually, during the entire time we were playing house together she had a guy in Germany supporting her. This person was about to break up his family to be with her.
When I found out. Because little lies add up. I contacted the guy and told him she was living with me. For the last six months or so. You know the drill. The german guy and I are still good friends today. He saved cash, and his family. I let the girl go. Even when confronted directly. She lied. Even with pictures, western union receipts. The whole case closed book of evidence she denied it all the very next day. It went beyond what I have ever experienced in terms of deceit. It spoke to a very deep disconnect between how I perceived common reality. And her outlook.
Yes. If she is a bar girl you will never know the details. You will never get the truth, as you would understand it. Your "shy girl" will act like the virgin Mary in your presence but, in a P4P setting will be gang banging like a porn star. And loving it.
If all her friends are bar girls, then she is still a bar girl. Lastly, the older the girl. The more secrets she has to keep.
Interestingly. The girl I busted years ago still I'm's me. Wants to fuck me on my next business trip to wherever she is. And has all sorts of "reasons" why I should "live my life to the fullest"; obviously with her back in the picture.
Yet more proof that women are a separate species, and they are all insane.
Illogic, I read all your posts (at least for the past month or so), I find them the most entertaining on the Philippines forum. Thanks for the entertainment and info.
Yes, I realize I'm a potential money source, as you said, possibly as a boyfriend or husband. I also believe that is the case with most women, 'working' or not. As I said, I do not believe love is real, but smart women can make it seem real.
The issue is whether or not I should call her on it; for now, I still think I'm going to not say anything. Sometime soon mention to her that I've found someone else, and when I go back to Manila, see if she's still 'single', and have fun with her then.
Well, being Asian myself (Korean), I don't believe it, as I've seen how 'tough' Korean women can be. If anything, I think some Japanese women may be submissive, but yes, I know it's a 'myth' for the most part.
This girl truly does seem to be that way, or she's a regular Meryl Streep. Either way, I'm not sending her any money, and so far she hasn't asked for it. I suspect she may a month or two down the line, in which case I'll have to say goodbye. And of course say 'hello' when I arrive at MNL again. =)
Thanks for your concern, though.
Direct verbal confrontation (of the verbal kind) is, as those of us who have lived here long enough know, an unsatisfactory tactic for resolving anything. This is not a culture that encourages directness in any field of human endeavor and the sort of Westernized direct, confrontational style will not work here. All that such an approach will provoke is more shaded truth or outright lies to cover up the prior outright lies. Life is not about truth here, but about saving face.
As long as you accept the fact that you will never know the whole truth, at least as most of us understand the term, there's no need to confront anyone about anything that they would perceive as unpleasant.
GE
That is so true, they cant seem to be found out they have lied to you no matter what the evidence is against them...
But at least they are beautiful young and great in bed..
But do have very different ideas about life, love and relationships.
Another member posted on here a while ago that he would swap from Pinays to Chinese girls as gf and although they are a lot tamer in bed they might be a much more honest long term proposition.
But I do love pinays.....
Wizard
GoodEnough
06-30-09, 10:43
SA, it's not just the bar girls who lie consistently and will never confront truth, it's part of the national character: equal parts soap opera, eloquent deception, aversion to acceptance of responsibility, refusal to be held accountable for anything at any time and a congenital inability to tell unpleasant truths. Couple this with utter lack of initiative and an inability to think much outside the box and you've described almost everyone. There may be some exceptions--I think in my six years here I've met three or four--but not many. And these traits are by no means limited to women; the men are excellent exemplars as well.
Of course, on the distaff side, there are to be sure redeeming features, and the news is by no means all bad.
GE
There may be some exceptions--I think in my six years here I've met three or four--but not many. And these traits are by no means limited to women; the men are excellent exemplars as well.
GE
I have an exception to the rule. I married a lovely young lady from Q City 22 years ago. Met her through a friend. She was a college trained engineer working on her own designing houses. She is the one who took a chance on me not the other way around. I would say I married up. She is probably smarter than I am, much better looking, and still trim and fit after all these years.
I say she took a chance on me, as I was a mid-level enlisted military man. Did not have much money and lived in a one bedroom apartment. I was deployed regularly after we were married. While I was gone, she went back to college and got an AA degree in Computer science.
I was severely injured in a military vehicle accident and she helped the nurses tend to me. You know you must have a good wife when she will help change your colostomy bag.
She never asked for money to send her parents but does send home small amounts for birthdays and holidays. Even with me disabled, we are still doing ok. She works hard and manages our money very well. I have met most of her family and many relatives from California and Hawaii. All are upstanding and doing quite well in business.
I got really lucky and I thank my god each and every night.
Slim
Nvslim.
You are a 1 lucky guy, and I hope this continues for you forever.
Hope I can do the same
Good luck
Wizard
Wishmaster
07-01-09, 18:26
Hello guys,
I am Filipina and I have been reading post for like 4 years now? That's what I remember. I never interacted but just read your posts, opinions and advices. I was saddened that these things happen with you or your friends. I couldn't defend them for I myself agree that this is the style of some Filipinas? Blame it to Spaniards who colonized us for 300 years.
Anyway, I guess not all bar girls are "bad". Its so happen that they don't love you at all. You see, when a girl loves you they will be ashamed to ask for money. They will ask money from those they don't LOVE. Unless of course they are really in need (truthful scenarios).
You see NVSLIM got lucky (well she wasn't a bar girl). There are exceptions.
As for ShadowAxis and Byung, well I feel ashamed that this happened. I am ashamed and I feel bad about your story. I guess the bottom line is get to know the person first before sending cash. Don't be too heroic. Okey, If you know your girlfriend to well, I guess it's okey. But c'mon, you met the girl for two days and suddenly you exchange I love you's. Hello? There is no such thing as "love at first night".
Your wish is my command,
Wishmaster
I have an exception to the rule. I married a lovely young lady from Q City 22 years ago. Met her through a friend. She was a college trained engineer working on her own designing houses. She is the one who took a chance on me not the other way around. I would say I married up. She is probably smarter than I am, much better looking, and still trim and fit after all these years.
I say she took a chance on me, as I was a mid-level enlisted military man. Did not have much money and lived in a one bedroom apartment. I was deployed regularly after we were married. While I was gone, she went back to college and got an AA degree in Computer science.
I was severely injured in a military vehicle accident and she helped the nurses tend to me. You know you must have a good wife when she will help change your colostomy bag.
She never asked for money to send her parents but does send home small amounts for birthdays and holidays. Even with me disabled, we are still doing ok. She works hard and manages our money very well. I have met most of her family and many relatives from California and Hawaii. All are upstanding and doing quite well in business.
I got really lucky and I thank my god each and every night.
SlimGood for you my friend. Do you think that would happen with this generation of girls?
ThatGuy865
07-03-09, 01:38
I have an exception to the rule. I married a lovely young lady from Q City 22 years ago. Met her through a friend. She was a college trained engineer working on her own designing houses.That was 22 years ago, as you said, Also with an Established College grad who already was successful by philippine standards.
First of all we are talking a generation ago when values were different, the country was different. There was no Internet to communicate with guys to sponsor you, web cams to entice a foreigner. Cell phones to text and make arrangements. The world was a much different place. No cable TV for a Filipina to see what was going on around the world, so they were much more naieve and less worldly.
Secondly, how many guys here are able to meet a sucessful filipina college grad engineer. Now a days philippine college grads are lucky to find a job in the mall or flippin burgers at McDonalds.
Its mainly a sign of the times. Be glad you were here during those days when the women were more innocent and probably much less materialistic.
I recently met a Filipina in AC who didn't have a cell phone. I had a spare phone an older model. But stil in good working condition. I offered it to her for Free and she refused it because It didn't have a camera and wasnt a new model. Just shows the mentality of the Filipina today.
Soapy Smith
07-03-09, 06:08
SA, it's not just the bar girls who lie consistently and will never confront truth, it's part of the national character: equal parts soap opera, eloquent deception, aversion to acceptance of responsibility, refusal to be held accountable for anything at any time and a congenital inability to tell unpleasant truths. Couple this with utter lack of initiative and an inability to think much outside the box and you've described almost everyone. There may be some exceptions--I think in my six years here I've met three or four--but not many. And these traits are by no means limited to women; the men are excellent exemplars as well. GE
GE, I've been reading your posts in this forum and another one for nearly four years. In prior years you put a lot of energy into talking up Davao as a great place to live or visit, but you also had good things to say about your Filipino acquaintances, and you generally tried to put a positive spin on the women you occasionally picked up away from your own zip code. I've sort of noticed that the tone of your comments about Filipinos and their national culture has turned sour, especially over the last six months. Do you think Filipinos and their culture were always so despicable, but you were simply viewing them through rose colored glasses in those earlier posts? Another possible explanation is that you have changed but haven't really reflected on this very much. Still another possibility is that your business, recreational, or romantic life has either jolted you or led you to see a sample of folks that are particularly disingenuous.
I'm not posting this to ding you or your viewpoint, but just to reflect back to you my observations about the change in your postings. You've provided people in this forum a lot of excellent advice over the years, and so I'm concerned to see you in what comes across as a funk compared to where your head was a couple years ago. If you've become disillusioned about the setting, why stay there? So, yeah, I'm sort of concerned about what's going on with you.
I'd understand if you don't want to respond in the open forum.
Skip
Good for you my friend. Do you think that would happen with this generation of girls?
As long as she is NOT a Bar girl. Heard too many horror stories.
Find a nice educated, professional girl who is free of parents and looking for a challenge.
Good Luck,
Slim
Yellow Fever #2
07-03-09, 10:16
A while back, perhaps last year in August I posted in this forum about PI living expenses and dating a bar-girl.
I've learned alot since that time. I made the jump to my filipina against most of the advice given to me on this forum, the expenses she quoted were reasonable as it turns out but her motivation may not have been purely platonic more likely just survival and a chance to get out of the game and possibly lead a normal life.
She had another relationship with an (Chinese-Malay) guy on an Australian passport that was not divulged before I left my family although I had an idea she had another 'supporter'.
If you want more details of my story, please PM me. I could post my observations but it would be one hell of a long report and not very positive about the PI.
My advice, bar girls are great, have fun with them but don't try to make a relationship with them. They don't respect themselves and they won't respect you.
I am still recovering from my 8 month relationship with her but I am having lots of fun (tons of other girls PI, VN, CN and TH), I just don't want another relationship - at least not at this time.
Women are strange creatures. Men can be fooled by them, please take care.
Yellow Fever
My first GF here in the Philippines was a bar girl I had met in Malaysia. The moment I stopped making "buy" signals, she had other guys lined up. Actually, during the entire time we were playing house together she had a guy in Germany supporting her. This person was about to break up his family to be with her.
When I found out. Because little lies add up. I contacted the guy and told him she was living with me. For the last six months or so. You know the drill. The german guy and I are still good friends today. He saved cash, and his family. I let the girl go. Even when confronted directly. She lied. Even with pictures, western union receipts. The whole case closed book of evidence she denied it all the very next day. It went beyond what I have ever experienced in terms of deceit. It spoke to a very deep disconnect between how I perceived common reality. And her outlook.
Yes. If she is a bar girl you will never know the details. You will never get the truth, as you would understand it. Your "shy girl" will act like the virgin Mary in your presence but, in a P4P setting will be gang banging like a porn star. And loving it.
If all her friends are bar girls, then she is still a bar girl. Lastly, the older the girl. The more secrets she has to keep.
Interestingly. The girl I busted years ago still I'm's me. Wants to fuck me on my next business trip to wherever she is. And has all sorts of "reasons" why I should "live my life to the fullest"; obviously with her back in the picture.
Yet more proof that women are a separate species, and they are all insane.
Yellow Fever #2
07-03-09, 10:29
Hello guys,
I am Filipina and I have been reading post for like 4 years now? That's what I remember. I never interacted but just read your posts, opinions and advices. I was saddened that these things happen with you or your friends. I couldn't defend them for I myself agree that this is the style of some Filipinas? Blame it to Spaniards who colonized us for 300 years.
Anyway, I guess not all bar girls are "bad". Its so happen that they don't love you at all. You see, when a girl loves you they will be ashamed to ask for money. They will ask money from those they don't LOVE. Unless of course they are really in need (truthful scenarios).
You see NVSLIM got lucky (well she wasn't a bar girl). There are exceptions.
As for ShadowAxis and Byung, well I feel ashamed that this happened. I am ashamed and I feel bad about your story. I guess the bottom line is get to know the person first before sending cash. Don't be too heroic. Okey, If you know your girlfriend to well, I guess it's okey. But c'mon, you met the girl for two days and suddenly you exchange I love you's. Hello? There is no such thing as "love at first night".
Your wish is my command,
Wishmaster
I am quite surprised to see a filipina posting on this forum. It is interesting to get a different point of view.
In my case, we dated for 2 months before my BG moved in together with me and although she knew my intentions (and I believed hers too) she continued to be dishonest with me. It is easy for a BG to lie to your face, that is their professional training.
I actually was kind and in a way patient even though I was hurt very much the first time I discovered her deceit. I tried to forgive her the second time and on the third strike I planned carefully to get her out of my life which eventually I did. She is back in the bar business and I think her career will not be very long.
I have learned alot and I have read all her communications with her other 'customers'. Interesting reading.
I actually feel sorry for bar-girls, it is not an occupation *most* would choose but they do this because there is nothing else for them. I try my best to help them and understand their motivations. I know life is difficult but a little honesty from them would go a long way. BG life is not very glamorous.
I've actually had a really fair share of free bar girls. Some are very nice and friendly for the short time. I think nearly all BGs want to get out of the business if they could. BGs are not good at planning, only want the easy way and to them this is easy money.
The odds are highly stacked against a relationship with a bar girl lasting.
On the other hand NVSlim has a great relationship and I congratulate him on it. Filipinas can be great but avoid the bar girls for relationships. If I met the correct filipina that was not a bar girl or former bar girl, my mind would be open to a long-term relationship.
I think the Philippines can be nice but you must leave Manila. It has to be the worst capital city in SE Asia.
Yellow Fever
A while back, perhaps last year in August I posted in this forum about PI living expenses and dating a bar-girl.
Sorry to hear about your misfortune. I know it's popular to bash these women on this board and I suspect many times rightfully so but I would ask you and others like you in similar plight whether you were fully committed and faithful to the girl? This is not for you personally but generally is it ok for men to be unfaithful but demand unconditional commitment from the girls because you are the one financially supporting the relationship?
Some of these girls know who they are dealing with and are placing their hopes in as many baskets as they can because they never know when a man will change his mind dump them. Not making excuses for hookers but I understand why some of them are not fully committed, they are sometimes dealing with men who are not fully committed to them too.
FreebieFan
07-04-09, 06:10
That was 22 years ago, as you said, Also with an Established College grad who already was successful by philippine standards.
First of all we are talking a generation ago when values were different, the country was different. There was no Internet to communicate with guys to sponsor you, web cams to entice a foreigner. Cell phones to text and make arrangements. The world was a much different place. No cable TV for a Filipina to see what was going on around the world, so they were much more naieve and less worldly.
Its mainly a sign of the times. Be glad you were here during those days when the women were more innocent and probably much less materialistic.
I recently met a Filipina in AC who didn't have a cell phone. I had a spare phone an older model. But stil in good working condition. I offered it to her for Free and she refused it because It didn't have a camera and wasnt a new model. Just shows the mentality of the Filipina today.I'm from " that generation" and met a smart Filipina from that era and weve been married ever since. No issues with materiality.
However, just to square the record, I have a cute and sweet gf who I have been seeing on my Manila trips. Shes not from Manila and takes a 3 hour bus ride to see me.
She never wants nor expects money but I sometimes bring her books ( she loves to read and try to expand her vocabulary). On last trip, I gave her my old phone, a sony ericsson whatever.. she ran to bathroom and wouldnt come out for 20 minutes. When she came out all make up smeared etc.. she had been crying that I would be " so generous ". So as expected, not all can be tarred with same brush.
My gf does not has a birth certicate (lost by her mother) or valid id-card. And if i want to take her with me on a flight to for instance Boracay thats not possible coz she cant identify herself properly at the airport.
Today she told me that a friend told her that a post idcard is valid for travelling within phills. The costs are 300 pesos and turn around time 1 day.
Can any one tell me if this is correct?
Can anyone tell me what the costs are for getting a new birth certificate and for getting a passport as the next steps. She is trying to get this info as well but i want to make sure that im not getting scammed.
GoodEnough
07-04-09, 23:37
She can go to the NSO office that handles the region in which she was born and someone there will explain the procedures to her. This being the Philippines, where form is everything and substance matters not at all, she will have to get two or three affidavits of people who know here swearing that she is who she says she is, and they will all have to be notarized, and prepared by an attorney on paper of a specific size, but it's not a difficult process.
GE
Bill Buxton
07-05-09, 03:16
I have an exception to the rule. I married a lovely young lady from Q City 22 years ago. Met her through a friend. She was a college trained engineer working on her own designing houses. She is the one who took a chance on me not the other way around. I would say I married up. She is probably smarter than I am, much better looking, and still trim and fit after all these years.
I say she took a chance on me, as I was a mid-level enlisted military man. Did not have much money and lived in a one bedroom apartment. I was deployed regularly after we were married. While I was gone, she went back to college and got an AA degree in Computer science.
I was severely injured in a military vehicle accident and she helped the nurses tend to me. You know you must have a good wife when she will help change your colostomy bag.
She never asked for money to send her parents but does send home small amounts for birthdays and holidays. Even with me disabled, we are still doing ok. She works hard and manages our money very well. I have met most of her family and many relatives from California and Hawaii. All are upstanding and doing quite well in business.
I got really lucky and I thank my god each and every night.
SlimNice to see another guy has a good woman from the PI. I married a gal from here 2 years ago and have not had a problem at all even in the states. Sure the relethives need some cash but who don't these days. I married here and finished the paperwork and we go back and forth from here to the US several times a year. When she first got to the cold ne region of the US she was wondering what kind of place I had brought her to. After spending several months there she could see that America was not what she saw on the TV screen. She was not liking all the added expense's we have in our own countries. She had no idea what living in the US was all about until she went.
I am sure most people here feel they watch TV and we all have a money tree tp fund our day to day life THATS WRONG. 99.9% of what she thought would be paradise was not anywhere to be found. Just like the first time we went on a plane ride here.
We have a nice home here in the Provence and a small biz that she oversees keeping here relatives working every day. Life is great and sure the continuous temptation still exists as far as the girls go. They all know us here and all want what they think she has but why make trouble.
These girls are just the same in most cases like gals from every corner of the globe. They all want a person to treat them nice have a good life and some security. They are not lazy they will work and help keep things going if the occasion arises. They are loyal as a dog most will not in-site trouble unless its forced on them.
Guys, I have has more ass than a 50 year old city buss but have seen the light as far as monkey-biz here. Sure I want the new gal walking down the street with the big smile and great body but not the trouble that goes with it. I noticed that most guys make there own troubles in the lady dept in most cases. They drink, and act an ass most of the time do nothing all day long and run the girls every chance they get. Where in this planet can anyone do this and not get problems after ha?
They sit and tell lies worse than most local residents and badmouth everything. Sure I was in that mode when I was single had the biggest mouth in the bar but found it was me not them. We all have to find some common ground to live here but remember we are not from here. We are looked at as ATM machines and that gets old. They see what the movies and TV have on and think we are all big-shots. If I never made more than 1-3 dollars a day and thought things were better in another country I would want to be on the next plane out as well.
The gals are savvy yes, but remember they react to what they see, as do we. They see some guy walk into a bar flash some pesos and do what he wants. The guy will tell every gal he sees how much of a big time charlie he is and they think "I have to get some of that cash" The funny thing is the guy saved hispaperrout money for 3 years just to take the trip. I can honestly say I never met a foreign man here that was not a VIP, prince, king, CEO, statesman, or some other kind of high end some thin. I met a guy that said his family had Aries to the inventing of the light-bulb! Yea no shit! Saw the same guy 3 weeks later and he was calling his friend to help buy a ticket home. I would have never in my wildest dreams thought I had to travel 9000 miles from home to be in the presents of such a financially diverse crowd.
Please know that there are more than one of us living here and back home having no problems at all being married. You have to want to be faithful and have some trust in order to keep things secure. No person who wants a different spinner on his pick every 2 hrs will ever find out how nice these gals truly are.
B. B.
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Yellow Fever #2
07-05-09, 04:12
Sorry to hear about your misfortune. I know it's popular to bash these women on this board and I suspect many times rightfully so but I would ask you and others like you in similar plight whether you were fully committed and faithful to the girl? This is not for you personally but generally is it ok for men to be unfaithful but demand unconditional commitment from the girls because you are the one financially supporting the relationship?
Some of these girls know who they are dealing with and are placing their hopes in as many baskets as they can because they never know when a man will change his mind dump them. Not making excuses for hookers but I understand why some of them are not fully committed, they are sometimes dealing with men who are not fully committed to them too.
I am so happy to hear the good and successful stories. The PI cannot be a land of complete misery and hopelessness.
I do not want to bash the country or its people however I want my brothers here on this website to be aware of the dangers and pitfalls involved with dating PI bargirls, at least from my perspective. Now I should have known better too, because at the time I had the same advice, the odds are long against you but if you succeed you should be very happy. In my case I took the gamble and I ended up without success and it was a very expensive lesson.
Better to use them for the professional skills, not fall for the bullshit involved. I should probably be stripped of my senior membership and perhaps given a lifetime ban from the ISG forum for my foolishness.
We've all see it before, you don't pay them to stay, you pay them to leave. Don't forget this rule.
Another rule I've learned, bros before hos. For this reason I post my observations and experiences.
I'd love to have a PI girl. Most speak english well so communication is easy. Some of them can be really beautiful, all of them can at least pretend to be sweet, kind and geniune and the can be really passionate lovers. Just be aware, that dating a BG or former BG is a risky business. It changes their perspective on life and it rots their emotions.
One thing I do mention to almost all the BGs that I meet, is that in fact really I (maybe all of us mongers) are NO better than they are. They may be selling their bodies because for them it is all they have (most have poor education and not many opportunities) and they need to live. For us we are the customers. Our difference is we get to choose (to partake or not and which girl to invest in), while they really don't have much choice, it is take (just about any or this) guy and eat for tomorrow or go hungry. Kinda sad in a way. For this reason I actually feel for them and sort of respect them and disrespect them too. The working girls actual working career is very short (they get old and hardened quickly) and this is not a good profession to list on a resume for future work or a husband. Very complicated.
Just be careful out there. You want both parties (NOT just you but her also) to come out at least feeling satisfied. Their lives are not easy. Be careful and respect her and think with the big head.
Yellow Fever
Wishmaster
07-05-09, 04:15
My gf does not has a birth certicate (lost by her mother) or valid id-card. And if i want to take her with me on a flight to for instance Boracay thats not possible coz she cant identify herself properly at the airport.
Today she told me that a friend told her that a post idcard is valid for travelling within phills. The costs are 300 pesos and turn around time 1 day.
Can any one tell me if this is correct?
Can anyone tell me what the costs are for getting a new birth certificate and for getting a passport as the next steps. She is trying to get this info as well but i want to make sure that im not getting scammed.I am sure she is 18 or older, then she can get postal ID which is the fastest. She has to go to their Municipal Post Office, they will give list of requirement. At least a school ID is fine to show her identity, if again she has no school ID. She needs to secure a barangay clearance from an official proving that she lives in that area. In the province, everybody knows everybody. It will cost roughly no more than 300 pesos.
Passport. Dept of Foreign Affairs has released a new type passport two years ago. It is now digital and the process is more secure and difficult unless you have proper identifications you will be okey. At least you have to have a valid ID. 2 ID's would suffice. If she is a student, she can present her registration form and school ID, temporary transcript of record, baptismal certificate, nbi clearance and birth certificate from NSO. NSO office is in East Ave, Quezon City. She can get her birth certificate within that day if she opts to get it rush if not it would be a week. I think it's about 150 pesos to 300 pesos for birth certificate and additional fee for rush I suppose.
It changes their perspective on life and it rots their emotions.
....and what do you think it does to us?
Yellow Fever #2
07-05-09, 04:53
....and what do you think it does to us?
The answer is obvious.
Hey, everyone has their personal weakness but we shouldn't have to expect that our commitments with a female partner (emotional, physical and financial + others) need to be symmetrical.
We are males and we have a different evolutionary requirements and history. In most cultures, the male were hunters and we are designed to 'spread our seed' while women stay at home and are designed to care and nurture. It is fact that we make millions of swimmers each day (smallest cell in the body), while a woman makes usually at most 1 giant egg each month (largest cell in the body) making it a very expensive thing to produce and maintain. We are just different.
It's a sad fact that a percentage of babies born to couples, the 'husband' is not the real father. I believe in some modern countries is can be 10% or even more that the child is not related to the actual father figure. Married women are on the sly too.
A BG may have lost her ability to 'care and nurture', whilst some mongers are perhaps 'super spreaders' in turbo overdrive with nitro boost.
We are not better than the prostitute but we are for the most part designed to be that way, they are not. Of course in our recent evolutionary past our social mores have changed, but in the even more recent decades body shapes have changed even more! Yuck. We can say that China is growing, not everybody but some.
Women are great stress relief (this is a given), for most men a girls will be the most expensive thing they can 'possess' or 'search for' and we spend an inordinate amount of time in the quest. No one wants to be lonely, we are social creatures.
Till death do us part and marriage pair bonding is a relatively new concept and it may have been more applicable when people only lived until 30 years old and much more difficult when people live until 70 or more. 'Traditional' values are difficult to maintain these days, our parents generation is quite different in terms of values and mores.
Mongering is a hobby but for some it is an addiction. The line between hobby and addiction is very faint. Some business guys, have 'normal/conventional' lives at home in North America or Europe but behave like addicts (including possibly BSDs) when in Asia. Hooray for them.
In my feelings and getting back to the evolutionary theme, the hunt including negotiating can be more enjoyable than the 'kill'. When I monger I am very much a budget monger looking for the best value. I do not get a girl every time I go out, I go out for fun and I take a girl when I want to. I don't need a woman everytime or even most of the time.
Free is of course the best value and I get my fair share. I do not exclusively look for prostitutes (BGs) as that gets old and tired very quickly. The web has been great for hookups.
I've noticed BGs on the circuit, sometimes in Singapore, you see the same girl in KL or in Hong Kong or in Shanghai. I've repeated with some BGs 3 or 4 years later (probalby would not do that again, they were better when they were fresh) and I've met BGs in Hong Kong that had seen me at a bar in Shanghai but we had never talked before at that time. I did not remember her but she knew me. I enjoy 'recommendation' sex, when one BG or even normal girl says good things about you to her friends...
Life is too cheap here in Asia.
I hope that one day to find 'the One' and live forever on our own island under a coconut tree thatched roof with our own sailboat and scuba gear catching fish with a speargun but I am also realistic. Hey maybe if we cut off all ties to the world, a BG could be a good option?
Another option would be to give up spending time on the hunt and get to work and do something productive but that is a discussion I will postpone for now. Maybe I should just shut up and get back to work. Message to self - good idea.
Yellow Fever
I am so happy to hear the good and successful stories. The PI cannot be a land of complete misery and hopelessness.
I do not want to bash the country or its people however I want my brothers here on this website to be aware of the dangers and pitfalls involved with dating PI bargirls, at least from my perspective.
I'd love to have a PI girl. Most speak english well so communication is easy. Some of them can be really beautiful, all of them can at least pretend to be sweet, kind and geniune and the can be really passionate lovers. Just be aware, that dating a BG or former BG is a risky business. It changes their perspective on life and it rots their emotions.
One thing I do mention to almost all the BGs that I meet, is that in fact really I (maybe all of us mongers) are NO better than they are. They may be selling their bodies because for them it is all they have (most have poor education and not many opportunities) and they need to live. For us we are the customers. Our difference is we get to choose (to partake or not and which girl to invest in), while they really don't have much choice, it is take (just about any or this) guy and eat for tomorrow or go hungry. Kinda sad in a way. For this reason I actually feel for them and sort of respect them and disrespect them too. The working girls actual working career is very short (they get old and hardened quickly) and this is not a good profession to list on a resume for future work or a husband. Very complicated.
Just be careful out there. You want both parties (NOT just you but her also) to come out at least feeling satisfied. Their lives are not easy. Be careful and respect her and think with the big head.
Yellow Fever
Generally, I agree with you and believe we are saying the same thing. I maintain though that these (doomed) relationships don't all fail because of dishonest and unfaithful hookers, dishonest and unfaithful males contribute as well, reading this board, you just don't get that.
Yellow Fever #2
07-05-09, 06:14
Generally, I agree with you and believe we are saying the same thing. I maintain though that these (doomed) relationships don't all fail because of dishonest and unfaithful hookers, dishonest and unfaithful males contribute as well, reading this board, you just don't get that.
I don't just generally agree with your writing above, I totally agree with it.
Probably 100% of the BGs tell themselves NOT to get involved (I've yet to find one that wants to date a customer but all want to get out of the trade) with their customers and 100% of the customers should feel the same way (a relationship with a B working out is a long shot) but life being the way it is, emotions come into play and relationships do happen.
I tried and I lost. In my case I was not playing games but trying to make a relationship work. I'm not sure I would have been perfect, most likely not, but until we ended I was faithful while she was caught in directly lies 3 times - over the same dude. In an ironic twist of fate, I was able to get back at him but the relationship was doomed. I swallowed my pride twice but at the 3rd time I knew it had to end.
Yellow Fever
Probably 100% of the BGs tell themselves NOT to get involved (I've yet to find one that wants to date a customer but all want to get out of the trade) with their customers and 100% of the customers should feel the same way (a relationship with a B working out is a long shot) but life being the way it is, emotions come into play and relationships do happen.
I tried and I lost. In my case I was not playing games but trying to make a relationship work. I'm not sure I would have been perfect, most likely not, but until we ended I was faithful while she was caught in directly lies 3 times - over the same dude. In an ironic twist of fate, I was able to get back at him but the relationship was doomed. I swallowed my pride twice but at the 3rd time I knew it had to end.
Yellow Fever
I think most men do not want to fall for a Bar girl, its just something that happends, in one of your past posts you mentioned that Bar Girls dont take this line of work as their first choice and I agree with that. But as I read some of the posts by other posters if your nice and treat the girls well most of them would jump at a chance of a normal relationship with a client.
A word of advice dont swallow your pride, no one should have to put up with that crap not you nor an ex Bar Girl from a cheating bf. If you do all it does is make you a cynical cold hearted prick and it takes a long time to get back from that. I am still working on that.
Wizard
Yellow Fever #2
07-05-09, 07:38
I think most men do not want to fall for a Bar girl, its just something that happends, in one of your past posts you mentioned that Bar Girls dont take this line of work as their first choice and I agree with that. But as I read some of the posts by other posters if your nice and treat the girls well most of them would jump at a chance of a normal relationship with a client.
A word of advice dont swallow your pride, no one should have to put up with that crap not you nor an ex Bar Girl from a cheating bf. If you do all it does is make you a cynical cold hearted prick and it takes a long time to get back from that. I am still working on that.
Wizard
I agree about the pride thing. I have definitely become more cynical and less ready for a new relationship at this time. I'm having fun playing the field.
Although I would highly recommend against it, I think we should make some general ground rules for dating BGs if that is really what someone wants to try to do:
0. Don't do it. Repeat this as many times as necessary. It is a long shot, but if you want to try continue reading... (I tried these things but I was not successful)
1. try your best to have them end contact with their BG friends. Although their BG friends want them to succeed and get out (it is their dream too), they secretly want them to stay in the business, they are freinds and they need to support each other. Do you best to sever those parasitic relationships. Her friends are all garbage. If she had not met these people, she may never have become a BG in the first place.
2. if she is serious about your new relationship, I think it is within your right to have her phone numbers cancelled and she should be willing to delete all her contacts from her phone(s). Make sure you get all this information deleted. The average bar girl does not have backups on paper or on her computer of this information. Her backups will be her old BG friends that are still working, therefore you must try your best with rule #1.
3. you must make all efforts to close her email accounts, and check her Hi-5, Friendster, MySpace, Tagged, FilipnaHeart etc. sex advertising pages too. If she is serious about you, she should know it is pointless to advertise her desire for a new relationship. Ideally you will want to close the pages, otherwise you can do as I did and change the passwords on the accounts. In my case, we changed the password, she had 5 letters and I had 5 letters of the password. Therefore neither of us could see the accounts. I was prepared to give her my part of the password key if our relationship was pointless and we ended well.
I guess if you (the monger) were serious you should give up your social networking sites too, except for the ones related to YOUR BUSINESS or PROFESSIONAL LIFE. Her social networking sites are ONLY FOR HER PROFESSIONAL BG SEX LIFE.
I do not suggest or recommend you give up your phone number or contacts, presumably you are a business person have hundreds of non-sexual professional contacts.
4. Verify her expenses, she may get in the habit of padding them to help support her family. This is not necessary if she was honest about all the bills.
5. Don't accept to be treated as a walking ATM.
6. I'd like ideas of 'laundering' her past and allowing her to get an education or hold down a proper job. This may be very hard given many limited education and lack of any work ethic. Working girls are notoriously lazy except for housework. They will probably love to cook and clean for you, but if you needed a housekeeper, it is cheaper to hire a domestic helper.
Hey if you can afford it and she does not have to work, then why ask her to work?? The answer is simple, if you care about her you want her to have her own career so that when things get bad or end, she can have a good chance at a normal life instead of falling back to the bar life. In this way I tried to help my bar girl escape from the addiction and so-called easy money of the bar. Even though my BG had more than 8 months from the bar girl life, she returned to the bar life. I failed because she showed NO INITIATIVE. The bar is a trap, they can never get ahead in the bar - even they know it but they are trapped.
You want to break her past, clean turkey and not give her chances to return and live her previous "easy money high life".
As an addendum, we tried all the above methods and it was not enough. One day she told me that because I did not SMS her from my work she was bored and lonely and just because she wanted to see if it could be done, she tried to get onto her yahoo account. Well guess what, yes she recovered the password using the pasword recovery function and she began to chat with her former sponsor again. She had maybe 4 days of email exchanges with him before she made a mistake with her computer and could not get on the wireless at my home. So she asked me to fix it and during my fix I discovered she had checked this 'blocked' email account.
When I questioned her about it, she told me about being bored etc. and that she wanted to apologize for disappearing from her former sponsor. This was the second strike and at the time I tried to get her to leave (I actually told her to pack her shit and leave immediately) but she told me she wanted to stay and that she loved me. I had to swallow my pride, this was the second time.
BGs are PROFESSIONAL LIARS. It is part of their training. Maybe they can be reformed but it is hard.
Maybe I will write about the first pride swallowing in another post.
Any one else have more ideas/tips on how to 'fix' relationships with bar girls?
There is a filipina writing in this forum, perhaps SHE can give us some tips too!
I really wished my relationship would have worked, I tried hard to give her a good life and make her happy. my thought was if I can give her a good life, she will be even better and greatful to me.
Yellow Fever
I agree about the pride thing. I have definitely become more cynical and less ready for a new relationship at this time.
BGs are PROFESSIONAL LIARS. It is part of their training. Maybe they can be reformed but it is hard.
Any one else have more ideas/tips on how to 'fix' relationships with bar girls?
There is a filipina writing in this forum, perhaps SHE can give us some tips too!
I really wished my relationship would have worked, I tried hard to give her a good life and make her happy. my thought was if I can give her a good life, she will be even better and greatful to me.
Yellow Fever
I have just become a prick and it sucks when your friends tall you that when they see you interact with other people, dont go down that path its not a nice place to be.
I dont think they are proffesional liars I just think they will do what ever it takes to get the best outcome from a situation, would any of the "noble" mongers lie their ass off if they were faced with loosing their job or their careers because of something they did. My money is a large percentage would. We all have high morals but how many of those morals can we afford? To you and me out of 100 questions people ask us only 1 or 2 may have consequences tomorrow. In a case of an ex BG how many of the questions that you ask her might mean a difference between living with you going to collage supporting her family maybe marrying you and moving to a better place with you and having agreed to GFE sex that she wants to have with you, and being back in a bar rubbing some guys cock through his shorts so that later in the night he might stick his fingers up her ass or hold her head down for CIM and throw her an extra 500 peso tip for the privelage. (Worse case scenario but it does happend)
I dont think you fix relationship with people that you dont trust, I have tried and see my first paragraph you just become a prick ((my POV only). Not a BG just a normal girl that lied.)
I would also like to hear from the Filipina girl about her thoughts, but most Filipinas that have chosen to not work as a BG have very low opinions of BG anyway. Its an easy way out to sell your dignity and self respect. Their words not mine.
I wish your relationship would of worked too but the only thing I dont agree with is your last sentence. Get involved with a girl no matter where from because shes the right girl for you not beause you want to save her from being a BG and then expect her to be grateful. Just be happy that the person next to you on the couch or in bed is happy to be with you because they want to be with YOU not because you are a way out for them. I think too many guys try to be a white night and take them away from being a BG and the girls only want a better life no matter who the guy is. This is not an Asia only phenomenon if you have a job a house and a nice car you will always attract women from a lower socioeconomic status. So look for a GF that your really into because she makes you happy and smile every day that you are with her without regard of her being an xe BG or a secretary or a factory worker etc. but also look for a girl that would be with you if you had no money and no prospects, because then they love you for you and not for your passport or wallet. this might be just a big dream but why not?
Wizard
Yellow Fever #2
07-05-09, 10:07
I have just become a prick and it sucks when your friends tall you that when they see you interact with other people, dont go down that path its not a nice place to be.
I dont think they are proffesional liars I just think they will do what ever it takes to get the best outcome from a situation, would any of the "noble" mongers lie their ass off if they were faced with loosing their job or their careers because of something they did. My money is a large percentage would. We all have high morals but how many of those morals can we afford? To you and me out of 100 questions people ask us only 1 or 2 may have consequences tomorrow. In a case of an ex BG how many of the questions that you ask her might mean a difference between living with you going to collage supporting her family maybe marrying you and moving to a better place with you and having agreed to GFE sex that she wants to have with you, and being back in a bar rubbing some guys cock through his shorts so that later in the night he might stick his fingers up her ass or hold her head down for CIM and throw her an extra 500 peso tip for the privelage. (Worse case scenario but it does happend)
I dont think you fix relationship with people that you dont trust, I have tried and see my first paragraph you just become a prick ((my POV only). Not a BG just a normal girl that lied.)
I would also like to hear from the Filipina girl about her thoughts, but most Filipinas that have chosen to not work as a BG have very low opinions of BG anyway. Its an easy way out to sell your dignity and self respect. Their words not mine.
I wish your relationship would of worked too but the only thing I dont agree with is your last sentence. Get involved with a girl no matter where from because shes the right girl for you not beause you want to save her from being a BG and then expect her to be grateful. Just be happy that the person next to you on the couch or in bed is happy to be with you because they want to be with YOU not because you are a way out for them. I think too many guys try to be a white night and take them away from being a BG and the girls only want a better life no matter who the guy is. This is not an Asia only phenomenon if you have a job a house and a nice car you will always attract women from a lower socioeconomic status. So look for a GF that your really into because she makes you happy and smile every day that you are with her without regard of her being an xe BG or a secretary or a factory worker etc. but also look for a girl that would be with you if you had no money and no prospects, because then they love you for you and not for your passport or wallet. this might be just a big dream but why not?
Wizard
Agreed, I have become at least a minor cynical prick. I wish it were not so and hopefully it will pass. I really wish to have a long term relationship rather than a series of short ones. Maybe it will happen but the present time I am not ready and I make no excuses. I am also very upfront with the girls that I meet not to have expectations of LTR as I am not ready. I can only tell them it could happen in the future.
I think my writing about BGs being professional liars was a little hard but it is mostly accurate. It is not just the 'big' things they can lie about but little trivial things too, like getting your hands caught in the cookie jar. Most of the time they are honest and maybe even realistic but in the case when they are 'caught' they will lie with a straight face. Just be aware.
There is no such thing as a 'noble' monger. We can try our best to make our relationships good but we always have our weaknesses.
500 peso tip! Wow.
I am trying to be fair and I am very open minded when it comes to BGs. I treat them with respect as people with the goal of making them happy. If I can make her happy even for our short time together, I know I will be satisfied which is my ultimate goal. At the same time because of my experiences I am cautious.
I talk alot with my BGs about life and their experiences. I have learned much from them. They tell me most mongers don't really talk to them, only want to get their satisfaction and let them go. I rarely go for ST with BGs and I have time to talk with them. I found it amazing some of their stories. Many BGs are decent people in a difficult situation. Still many are lazy and only interested in the easy way out and that includes lying about trivial things.
I expecially talk with BGs that have 'managers'. I feel more sorry for them. Most BGs got into the trade because of poor advice from their 'friends'. In the majority of cases they would do better to stay at home and work 'SM' hypermarket for 5000pesos/month. Almost no PI BG can make financial plans, nearly all live month to month. Business can be difficult and is never guaranteed. They sometimes get beat up or given fake money. Hard for them to go to the police.
I do not have any experience with BGs in the Philippines but I have PhD experience with Filipina BGs outside of the PI. They may be different creatures inside and outside of their country. I have not met any PI BG outside of the PI that would work as a BG inside of their country. They are too shamed by what they are doing. However, unless their family at home is completely foolish they must know what they are doing when they are outside of the country. The money they send home is too good. Just no one admits the facts.
My BG had 'noble' intentions. She worked to earn money for her family so that they can get an education and no do as she did. The falicy with her logic is that she actually had a 4 year 'college' degree in the Philippines as an accountant but the she was tempted by this trade and never gave herself a chance to work in her field. Now I am don't even think she can spell Accountant. She may be good at numbers, she can ask for 1500RMB for all night but she will accept 500 if you bargain. Accountancy education does have its plusses!
I think my advice is fair and reasonable. Don't fall for BGs should be the most important rule, otherwise try the best to break the past. Ideally you want to hide it, bury and make it go away. It is a not a proud thing for her or anyone. Not that you should care about what others think about you and your private matters/relationships.
I am sorry for my words about being grateful. I regret writing them. They were not correct and fair. They were not at all the motivation for me to get involved with my BG. Love, caring, hope and respect were my motivations. My goal was to work hard together to make our relationship wonderful and successful but she pulled the rug from under our feet almost before we got started.
I am a cynical prick but I think not all hope is lost.
Bill Buxton
07-05-09, 14:24
Agreed, I have become at least a minor cynical prick. I wish it were not so and hopefully it will pass. I really wish to have a long term relationship rather than a series of short ones. Maybe it will happen but the present time I am not ready and I make no excuses. I am also very upfront with the girls that I meet not to have expectations of LTR as I am not ready. I can only tell them it could happen in the future.
I think my writing about BGs being professional liars was a little hard but it is mostly accurate. It is not just the 'big' things they can lie about but little trivial things too, like getting your hands caught in the cookie jar. Most of the time they are honest and maybe even realistic but in the case when they are 'caught' they will lie with a straight face. Just be aware.
There is no such thing as a 'noble' monger. We can try our best to make our relationships good but we always have our weaknesses.
500 peso tip! Wow.
I am trying to be fair and I am very open minded when it comes to BGs. I treat them with respect as people with the goal of making them happy. If I can make her happy even for our short time together, I know I will be satisfied which is my ultimate goal. At the same time because of my experiences I am cautious.
I talk allot with my BGs about life and their experiences. I have learned much from them. They tell me most mongers don't really talk to them, only want to get their satisfaction and let them go. I rarely go for ST with BGs and I have time to talk with them. I found it amazing some of their stories. Many BGs are decent people in a difficult situation. Still many are lazy and only interested in the easy way out and that includes lying about trivial things.
I especially talk with BGs that have 'managers'. I feel more sorry for them. Most BGs got into the trade because of poor advice from their 'friends'. In the majority of cases they would do better to stay at home and work 'SM' hypermarket for 5000pesos/month. Almost no PI BG can make financial plans, nearly all live month to month. Business can be difficult and is never guaranteed. They sometimes get beat up or given fake money. Hard for them to go to the police.
I do not have any experience with BGs in the Philippines but I have PhD experience with Filipino BGs outside of the PI. They may be different creatures inside and outside of their country. I have not met any PI BG outside of the PI that would work as a BG inside of their country. They are too shamed by what they are doing. However, unless their family at home is completely foolish they must know what they are doing when they are outside of the country. The money they send home is too good. Just no one admits the facts.
My BG had 'noble' intentions. She worked to earn money for her family so that they can get an education and no do as she did. The falicy with her logic is that she actually had a 4 year 'college' degree in the Philippines as an accountant but the she was tempted by this trade and never gave herself a chance to work in her field. Now I am don't even think she can spell Accountant. She may be good at numbers, she can ask for 1500RMB for all night but she will accept 500 if you bargain. Accountancy education does have its plusses!
I think my advice is fair and reasonable. Don't fall for BGs should be the most important rule, otherwise try the best to break the past. Ideally you want to hide it, bury and make it go away. It is a not a proud thing for her or anyone. Not that you should care about what others think about you and your private matters/relationships.
I am sorry for my words about being grateful. I regret writing them. They were not correct and fair. They were not at all the motivation for me to get involved with my BG. Love, caring, hope and respect were my motivations. My goal was to work hard together to make our relationship wonderful and successful but she pulled the rug from under our feet almost before we got started.
I am a cynical prick but I think not all hope is lost.Guys please don't think that every BG wants to do what she is doing. We all know why they do what they do so lets skip that info. I had a BG as a GF for over 6 months and I was the one who dumped her. She did nothing wrong and was 100% faithful. She got run around like a loose wheel by me just so I could see if she was true to me. Sure she tried a time or two to get some money for her family 1-2 thousand pesos but what the hell is that 20-40 bucks I guess that cheep enough.
I was the guy who wondered on her running around with my pick in my hand wanting others. I now feel the truth is I WAS THE LOOSER and SHE ALSO LOST. She is 100% flawless body wise and a great all around person. I had her quit the bar when I met her and she did just that. She was with me 24/7 with no cell phone at first. She seemed happy everyday and let me out when I wanted to go. I let her and paid for her to go visit her family whenever she wanted. This said we both worked well together.
I will however say this, I WENT THROUGH OVER 200 or more bg's in order to find this one. She was new 1-2 months in the bar and not many bar fines. I would give most gals the same pitch if they were potentially nice. After 1-2 bar-fines I would ask them about the bar, if they were happy with there work. If they said no I would make an offer. The offer was stay with me quit the bar and see how it goes I pay for everything. Now that being said this is much better than them staying at the bar and eating fish-heads on the 125-p a day they get for working there. Remember guys this was not in manila or some other high end bar, it was in a more quiet setting. We all can pick out the moneymakers from the shy in the back row gals that are buying some time to send money home. Ilook back at the bg's that used me and just laugh at what they missed. Sure I got upset when I found out they swindled me but that didn't last long. I might take a night off or go out late and see what happened. You can always find a replacement for a non committed type relationship gal.
With so many Nice gals working at hotels, stores, malls, anywhere really why do we have to get a game player? Sure its in most cases a sure thing I know but who wants that. I have seen far better looking girls working in other places not just bars. I was the inventor of "any port in a storm" But there are other options.
Please don't think that a non BG will not try "because of the relathieves to make you stupid for pera" This is a poor place they ALL frankly need money.
My advise here would be SLOW THE FUCK DOWN AND RELAX. Strike up a conversation anywhere you go and start talking to whoever you choose. Invest some time "give yourself a predetermined amount" and be nice. I am sure if you are just nice and respectful you can write your own ticket in the pants and hearts of any gaL in the country.
Never give up!
B. B.
Wishmaster
07-05-09, 17:31
My pov? We all lie at some point. I sometimes lie because I don't want my partner to get hurt nor I wanted to lengthen an issue that is absurd or pointless. We all lie and we have reasons why we lie.
BG's lie because they had to do it or else they won't make money. I understand that you may feel insulted by this. I myself consider lying as the highest insult that a man can do, for they are underestimating my capacity of understanding.
Bottom line is. Get a girl outside the bar, at least you are far from getting a liar and close getting to a better woman.
I've often wondered the same thing Illogic, and I'm not sure what the answer is for me. (Maybe paranoia, preferences for plaid?)
My son is almost an adult and I've been tempted to ask him along on a trip to the Philippines. But in the end, I think it's better that he learn about women and sex in the more traditional way.
Oh, back in my Navy days we had a newbie who was a virgin and had come from some hick town in a dry county. Upon arrival at Subic Bay, we took him out and got him drunk and laid. A week later I popped into an Olongapo bar and there he was drunkenly dancing with a go-go girl on each arm. He'd turned into a monster in one week.
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....and what do you think it does to us?
ThatGuy865
07-06-09, 03:19
Man filipina lie no matter whether bar girl or not. Lying is a sport to the average filipina. Its part of their culture. Its about saving face. They would rather lie than admit they are wrong or don't know something. They will lie about the most insignificant things. And when you catch them in the lie. They will lie about lying.
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