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...but for everyone else it is?
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/nation/view/20090402-197559/RP-not-a-*****house-for-US-soldiers
RP not a ‘*****house’ for US soldiers
MANILA, Philippines—Senator Francis Pangilinan on Thursday called for an investigation into reports US soldiers joining the Balikatan military exercises in the Bicol Region are being given sex workers every night.
“This needs to be investigated and exposed. This is condemnable,” said Pangilinan, who initiated a resolution in the Senate calling for a review of the US-RP Visiting Force Agreement.
During his recent visit in the region, Pangilinan said he was approached by concerned citizens, claiming that at least two batches of eight to 10 women were being sent nightly to US soldiers, “checking in at 10 p.m. and are out by 4 a.m. the following morning.”
“Every time a pimp brings in 10 women, all will be taken. Then they’ll bring another batch of 10,” Pangilinan, quoting the locals, said.
The service US servicemen were also allegedly seen by the residents in hotels and bars with very young women.
“We worked so hard to get rid of prostitution and cleaning our reputation when the US military bases finally left our shores,” Pangilinan said. “The Philippines is not a *****house for US soldiers.”
I didn’t say it was a “good idea” I said "All the electronics I priced in Cebu were about double the cost of the same item in the USA."
I stand by that statement and I think Finrods post also supports that.
Remember I also said “It makes sense to take electronics from the USA, if you can find a cheap way to get them there, such as in you luggage.”
I hope you can prove me wrong but I don’t think you can find a “32" Sony Bravia LCD 720p HDTV” for 697.00 U$S. in Manila or any other place in the RP.
If you can please put two on hold for me and I will pick them up when I return in May.
http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/navigate.do?dest=5&item=401170
Oh and “I dont stumble into SM & buy the first thing i see.” I have been doing extensive research on prices in Cebu because I plan to move there later this year, and I’ve been there 3 times in the last year checking things out. :)Ouch! There's a lot of bold text there Punter!
Things to consider :
1) Freight costs WITHIN the PI can be high due to monopoly of shipping companies.
2) Warranty is useless. Are you prepared to pay to repair it or throw it away when it develops a fault?
3) PI power grid is pretty ferocious with electrical goods. How much extra money you gonna set aside for installing line conditioners/UPS's? (See point two)
Considering how quickly consumer electronics go out of fashion/get superseded and how fragile they are I find the cheapest I can sourced locally but thats just me. If you are going to be here any length of time you need to start making contacts & finding out where to get things from the locals.
AV
Is there another way to ship back besides dhl and ups? They seem a bit high to send a average size box. Slower shipping is ok by me. So what is the name of a shipping method and or store to ship to USA. And do they care if you send some watches and other fake stuff back?
Ouch! There's a lot of bold text there Punter!
Things to consider :
1) Freight costs WITHIN the PI can be high due to monopoly of shipping companies.
2) Warranty is useless. Are you prepared to pay to repair it or throw it away when it develops a fault?
3) PI power grid is pretty ferocious with electrical goods. How much extra money you gonna set aside for installing line conditioners/UPS's? (See point two)
Considering how quickly consumer electronics go out of fashion/get superseded and how fragile they are I find the cheapest I can sourced locally but thats just me. If you are going to be here any length of time you need to start making contacts & finding out where to get things from the locals.
AV
Darth Sushi
04-03-09, 10:47
...And do they care if you send some watches and other fake stuff back? Yes, they do care when you ship counterfeit goods! Many companies have private investigators (both here and there) ready to point the finger so be careful!
Punter 127
04-03-09, 11:18
Ouch! There's a lot of bold text there Punter!
Things to consider :
1) Freight costs WITHIN the PI can be high due to monopoly of shipping companies.
2) Warranty is useless. Are you prepared to pay to repair it or throw it away when it develops a fault?
3) PI power grid is pretty ferocious with electrical goods. How much extra money you gonna set aside for installing line conditioners/UPS's? (See point two)
Considering how quickly consumer electronics go out of fashion/get superseded and how fragile they are I find the cheapest I can sourced locally but thats just me. If you are going to be here any length of time you need to start making contacts & finding out where to get things from the locals.
AVThis conversation started because you said “Electrical goods are cheap in Asia.” I don’t know about all of Asia, but they are not cheap in the RP, Period!
Things to consider:
1) “Freight cost:” again I said “It makes sense to take electronics from the USA, if you can find a cheap way to get them there, such as in you luggage.”
2) I just bought a new Sony Vaio notebook, are you telling me an authorized Sony dealer in the RP would not honor my warranty?
3) I’ve been working in the electric generation field for nearly 40 years; I think I can deal with the power grid. However any problems with the power grid will exist no matter where I buy my “electrical goods”.
BTW I agree it's good to get things from the locals, but only if it’s cost effective. (I think I’ve got a guy in Manila looking for two Sony televisions for me now) … ;)
Now can we please move on? Please!
2) I just bought a new Sony Vaio notebook, are you telling me an authorized Sony dealer in the RP would not honor my warranty?
Yeah, uh huh, im telling you that...
Goods brought in from another country are known in the industry as 'GREY MARKET' goods.
Your warranty is ZERO ZIP NADA NIL..
Oh and by the way 4th on my list which i forgot to mention is the little problem of customs duties & taxes. Philippines imposes heavy eTax on anything brought into the country. You must declare it on the shipping slip.
Last time I flew back from Australia I brought back to PI a 17" LCD Computer monitor, a Mac mini with keyboard & mouse. Stuffed it all in the cargo baggage & crossed my fingers the bag did'nt vanish/get opened by the airline baggage handlers. I did'nt do it to avoid buying it in PI just that this gear was surplus so I dragged it back home to PI. No duty on it coz it was for personal use & out of its packaging. If it ever breaks down (it will on the lousy PI power grid) I pay to fix it or toss it.
I ran a successful computer company in the past. I'll talk to you about electronics, import/export etc as much as you want.
I wish you well in your endeavours.
Thanks for hearing my opinion.
AV
ShadowAxis
04-03-09, 13:11
Punter,
Hate to bust your bubble but if you can't prove you bought it here from a Sony reseller. Sure, you are entitled to a repair but in most cases they will simply refuse. These people a) don't give a phuck who you are, and b) will jack you given half the chance. I bought a 60 inch WEGA. When the bulb went. I was offered a replacement for $450. 00 only. About $370. 00 more than they go for in the US.
Usually the reseller hides a little sticker somewhere on the device. If that sticker isn't there. You better have Glorias home telephone number. Because nothing short of a presidential order will get your unit fixed.
The reason they don't honor warranties is simple. None of the shops can afford to stock parts. Why? Because the PI levies import taxes on these parts that make them so expensive the reimbursements from Sony don't cover the parts or labor for the local shops.
If it breaks, and it cost less then $1000. 00, and you can't fix it yourself. Throw it away.
This conversation started because you said “Electrical goods are cheap in Asia.” I don’t know about all of Asia, but they are not cheap in the RP, Period!
Things to consider:
1) “Freight cost:” again I said “It makes sense to take electronics from the USA, if you can find a cheap way to get them there, such as in you luggage.”
2) I just bought a new Sony Vaio notebook, are you telling me an authorized Sony dealer in the RP would not honor my warranty?
3) I’ve been working in the electric generation field for nearly 40 years; I think I can deal with the power grid. However any problems with the power grid will exist no matter where I buy my “electrical goods”.
BTW I agree it's good to get things from the locals, but only if it’s cost effective. (I think I’ve got a guy in Manila looking for two Sony televisions for me now) … ;)
Now can we please move on? Please!
LoveAsianWhores
04-03-09, 13:32
Yeah, uh huh, im telling you that.
Goods brought in from another country are known in the industry as 'GREY MARKET' goods.
Your warranty is ZERO ZIP NADA NIL..
Oh and by the way 4th on my list which i forgot to mention is the little problem of customs duties & taxes. Philippines imposes heavy eTax on anything brought into the country. You must declare it on the shipping slip.
Last time I flew back from Australia I brought back to PI a 17" LCD Computer monitor, a Mac mini with keyboard & mouse. Stuffed it all in the cargo baggage & crossed my fingers the bag did'nt vanish/get opened by the airline baggage handlers. I did'nt do it to avoid buying it in PI just that this gear was surplus so I dragged it back home to PI. No duty on it coz it was for personal use & out of its packaging. If it ever breaks down (it will on the lousy PI power grid) I pay to fix it or toss it.
I ran a successful computer company in the past. I'll talk to you about electronics, import/export etc as much as you want.
I wish you well in your endeavours.
Thanks for hearing my opinion.
AVLast time I returned here from the us there were two of us and our bags were stuffed with over $10, 000 USD of new stuff, including a 27" TV. Of course, they noticed the TV, but before they could open it, I slipped the guy $20. Within 10 seconds, there were 4 other guys also wanting their $20. I was happy to oblige. Now, you may be thinking "why draw attention to yourself with a big TV"? Well, if they start to open your bags and you slip them a $20, they may wonder what you are hiding (maybe drugs or worse) and will surely open your bags. But if they think it is just to avoid paying taxes on a TV, it can work. Once they accept your bribe, they will not open the bags. Not that I am recommending such a risky endeavor, but the tax savings can be enormous.
As far as warranties go, you can sometimes get an international warrarenty, but sony consumer stuff purchased in the US will have a US warranty. Also, when you return it to the US for repairs, Philippines customs will also tax it coming back into the country (they shouldn't, but it happens every time)
Punter 127
04-03-09, 14:30
Your warranty is ZERO ZIP NADA NIL..
AVI have a hard time excepting that, and I hope I don’t have to find out first hand.
Thanks for the discussion and your input.
I have a hard time excepting that, and I hope I don’t have to find out first hand.
Thanks for the discussion and your input.
If you buy any goods from an authorized Sony dealer the warranty is valid worldwide in any location.
I had bought camera in hong Kong and here in Usa they honored my warranty.
If you buy any goods from an authorized Sony dealer the warranty is valid worldwide in any location.
I had bought camera in hong Kong and here in Usa they honored my warranty.Sony may be an exceptional case in USA.
I was referring specificaly to goods brought into PI.
Getting warranty honoured in PI can be very very dificult when you have purchased the goods from an authorised outlet in the country.
The latest experience i had was purchased several high end Nokia smart phones from an authorised Nokia agent in Manila to give to some business friends in Mindanao. When one of the phones died in the first 24hours i told my friend hey just take it to the nearest Nokia agent in your city & get it replaced under warranty.
Simple right? He was told sorry sir warranty only applies to place of purchase. Take it back where it was bought (in this case Manila). After returning to the store several times & arguing they reluctantly agreed to forward it to Nokia service center in Cebu AT HIS COST with the proviso that HE pay the freight & that if it was found to be ok he would bear the cost of shipping it back (it was completely dead mind you).
My friend called every week for 6 weeks & was always told 'next week'. I was so annoyed & embarrassed by this that i got involved & started tearing new assholes in various people. After 2 more weeks the unit was returned by Nokia service center at his expense as it was pronounced AOK therefore no warranty.
On arrival it was completely DOA still.
The Nokia agent in Mindanao refused to replace it & once again sent it back to Nokia service in Cebu. 2 weeks of delay later the unit is pronounced 'possibly faulty needs testing'. 2 more weeks pass & Nokia servce now say its faulty but they cant fix it so it must go to Nokia headquarters in Manila for 'evaluation'.
2 weeks pass Nokia Manila pronounce it faulty but no parts available for this model IN THE COUNTRY so repair would be delayed several months awaiting parts.
When i heard this it was the last straw. I pulled some strings at Nokia headquarters in Manila & let it be known that a great deal of adverse publicity would ensue if my friend did not get a replacent phone pronto.
It took Nokia a further 2 weeks to 'authorise' the freighting of a replacement & a further week to actually send it.
This was a brand new Nokia purchased through correct channels in PI.
It is not an isolated incidence.
Best of luck getting warranty on grey market goods in PI.
AV
Cunning Stunt
04-03-09, 16:56
Oh and by the way 4th on my list which i forgot to mention is the little problem of customs duties & taxes. Philippines imposes heavy eTax on anything brought into the country. You must declare it on the shipping slip.
AV
Have to disagree here AV. Brought in so much electrical stuff either through airport customs or via balikbayan boxes and never once required to pay any duties or taxes. As long as the stuff is for personal use, they do not seem to care.
I reckon that a fair percentage of electrical imports are brought into the country in this way, by returning OFW. Just take a glance at a Philippines Airport baggage carousal to prove this.
As long as you have an international warranty on your items, you should be OK.
Punter 127
04-03-09, 17:59
If you buy any goods from an authorized Sony dealer the warranty is valid worldwide in any location.
I had bought camera in hong Kong and here in Usa they honored my warranty. Thanks, I agree with you.
My biggest concern is finding hard shell case or suitcase big enough for a 32” Television, so I can bring it as checked luggage.
Any suggestions?
Have to disagree here AV. Brought in so much electrical stuff either through airport customs or via balikbayan boxes and never once required to pay any duties or taxes. As long as the stuff is for personal use, they do not seem to care.
I reckon that a fair percentage of electrical imports are brought into the country in this way, by returning OFW. Just take a glance at a Philippines Airport baggage carousal to prove this.
As long as you have an international warranty on your items, you should be OK.Thats interesting GH because i've had things held up in customs many times. Having to send a staffer down there to pay the duties/taxes even when it was CLEARLY second hand (not new) goods gets old fast i can tell you. These arseholes just levy a tax based on the new price for the item regardless of whether it is new or not.
I've even had to pay & then been given an empty box with a hole ripped in it where the goods have been pilfered.
Personally carrying it in to the country as checked baggage seems the only safe route.
P.S. What is this international warranty people are talking about? Maybe Sony is a special case or maybe yanks get some special deal that i dont know about? Usually vendors will not honour warranty outside country of purchase.
AV
Cunning Stunt
04-04-09, 02:14
Thats interesting GH because i've had things held up in custhoms many times.
AV
Guess that I must be lucky then, as I have sent innumerable balikbayan consignments and have never encountered any problems and have always received the boxes unopened. The thing is to ensure that it is a door to door service so that the shippers are responsible for customs clearance. Had a friend who tried to save a few quid by sending his boxes door to port. He had to do the customs clearance himself and encountered many problems and bureaucratic hassles before his boxes were released.
Guess that I must be lucky then, as I have sent innumerable balikbayan consignments and have never encountered any problems and have always received the boxes unopened. The thing is to ensure that it is a door to door service so that the shippers are responsible for customs clearance. Had a friend who tried to save a few quid by sending his boxes door to port. He had to do the customs clearance himself and encountered many problems and bureaucratic hassles before his boxes were released.I have used Fedex & several other reputable courier & shipping companies to tranship electrical goods.
In almost every case delivery was not effected & I had to send someone to the airport to get it out of customs by paying tax. As previously mentioned, in one case, after paying, then being given a pilfered box.
Sending stuff by sea seems less likely to get held by customs for duties but is very slow especially if you are sending to places outside Manila.
Im just unlucky or others are lucky? Who knows?
AV
LoveAsianWhores
04-07-09, 19:53
If you buy any goods from an authorized Sony dealer the warranty is valid worldwide in any location.
I had bought camera in hong Kong and here in Usa they honored my warranty.
You should refrain from posting nonsense. Sony products can carry one of dozerns of types of warranties worldwide. They can generally be catagorized as either international, or country specific, such as a USA warranty. I just brought two brand new sony items into the Philippines, both with USA warranties. I am quite sure that Sony Philippines would not repair either one of them as the warranties specifically state that the item must be sent to a US SERVICE CENTER, POST PAID to obtain service under warranty. Just because they happened to fix your camara is irrelevent. And numerous products are only sold in certain countries, so how is Sony Philippines going to fix a product that they have not even seen before (neither of my products are sold in the Philippines. In fact, many entire product lines are only sold in the USA. Sony Philippines wouldn't even know what product they were looking at.
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/metro/view/20090408-198432/Motorcycle-riding-men-sow-terror-in-Tondo
Motorcycle-riding men sow terror in Tondo
By Jeannette Andrade
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 00:09:00 04/08/2009
Filed Under: Crime and Law and Justice, Local authorities
Close this MANILA, Philippines – Two motorcycle-riding men went on a shooting spree before dawn in Tondo, Manila, Tuesday, injuring three persons who were on their way home from a “pabasa.”
Manila Police District (MPD) operatives have fanned out to search for the pre-dawn shooters, whom Tondo residents claimed have been using the residents in the area for target practice for two weeks now.
They claimed that the three casualties were only the latest in a long list of victims.
Police identified the three injured in the latest attack as Lawrence Ventanilla, 30, of Zaragosa Street, who sustained a bullet wound in the left cheek and is undergoing treatment at the University of Santo Tomas Hospital; Brian Quinto, 20, of Calamansi Street; and Julito Ellies, 19, of Quezon Street.
Quinto and Ellies sustained gunshot wounds in the knees, legs and waist and are confined at the Jose Reyes Memorial Medical Center.
Investigators said the victims were shot at around 2 a.m. at the corner of Quezon and Capulong Streets while on the way home from a pabasa at the Don Bosco chapel.
Upon reaching the place, the suspects, their faces covered by towels, suddenly emerged and started shooting at them with handguns.
As soon as they fell and a mobile patrol unit of the MPD station 1 reportedly responded to the site, the shooters zipped by and escaped after shooting at the police car and driving through the narrow alleys.
Just last week, two vendors were shot by two motorcycle-riding men who also had their faces concealed by towels.
Puto (rice cake) vendor Fernan Ariola, of Perla Street was declared dead on arrival by attending doctors at the Mary Johnston Hospital for bullet wounds in the head, neck, and chest.
Another victim, Jason Atilano, of Quirino Street remains confined at the same hospital for gunshot wounds in the body.
A Tondo resident told the Inquirer that the motorcycle-riding men usually carried out their shooting sprees between 1 a.m. and 4 a.m. on the streets.
“They would shoot at anyone they chanced upon between those hours,” the resident, requesting anonymity out of fear for his safety, alleged.
“It was just last week that one of the victims died. Previously, there were at least four other incidents where people were shot in the area. Most of them were hospitalized but there were also other victims who were able to duck for cover,” he revealed.
Even though this is sad but it is minor compared to what happened in the US of Anger in the last few months.
ShadowAxis
04-08-09, 08:08
Looking forward to the warranty repair success stories.
Cheers, SA
You should refrain from posting nonsense. Sony products can carry one of dozerns of types of warranties worldwide. They can generally be catagorized as either international, or country specific, such as a USA warranty. I just brought two brand new sony items into the Philippines, both with USA warranties. I am quite sure that Sony Philippines would not repair either one of them as the warranties specifically state that the item must be sent to a US SERVICE CENTER, POST PAID to obtain service under warranty. Just because they happened to fix your camara is irrelevent. And numerous products are only sold in certain countries, so how is Sony Philippines going to fix a product that they have not even seen before (neither of my products are sold in the Philippines. In fact, many entire product lines are only sold in the USA. Sony Philippines wouldn't even know what product they were looking at.
Last time I returned here from the us there were two of us and our bags were stuffed with over $10, 000 USD of new stuff, including a 27" TV. Of course, they noticed the TV, but before they could open it, I slipped the guy $20. Within 10 seconds, there were 4 other guys also wanting their $20. I was happy to oblige. Now, you may be thinking "why draw attention to yourself with a big TV"? Well, if they start to open your bags and you slip them a $20, they may wonder what you are hiding (maybe drugs or worse) and will surely open your bags. But if they think it is just to avoid paying taxes on a TV, it can work. Once they accept your bribe, they will not open the bags. Not that I am recommending such a risky endeavor, but the tax savings can be enormous.Are you Filipino? Is your wife? You must have the balls of a bull, to walk into customs and hand out $20 bills:eek: Maybe 15 or 20 years ago, but INHO today, you are risking getting caught. Any idea what the penalty is for this, if you get an honest officer?
You should refrain from posting nonsense. Sony products can carry one of dozerns of types of warranties worldwide. They can generally be catagorized as either international, or country specific, such as a USA warranty. I just brought two brand new sony items into the Philippines, both with USA warranties. I am quite sure that Sony Philippines would not repair either one of them as the warranties specifically state that the item must be sent to a US SERVICE CENTER, POST PAID to obtain service under warranty. Just because they happened to fix your camara is irrelevent. And numerous products are only sold in certain countries, so how is Sony Philippines going to fix a product that they have not even seen before (neither of my products are sold in the Philippines. In fact, many entire product lines are only sold in the USA. Sony Philippines wouldn't even know what product they were looking at.This happened to me. I brought my laptop here and found a manufacture recall after the laptop crashed, went on line to the company site and found a service center in Makati and they told me that I had to send it to the US for the recall repair or pay them to do it.
Cunning Stunt
04-10-09, 04:00
Any idea what the penalty is for this, if you get an honest officer?
About as rare as a real virgin in LA Café. Positions in the Philippine Customs Service are amongst the most highly prized governmental jobs in the country specifically because the opportunities for personal aggrandizement are so good. When I was looking at some real estate in an exclusive Manila sub-division, we were shown a beautifully appointed luxury property. As we were leaving the agent made a point of telling me, with a heavy wink, that the property was owned by a customs official at the airport. They earn maybe 200-250 dollars a month but they own 10 million pesos houses. What gives!
Immigration are nearly as bent. One time at the airport, I had incompletely filled in my arrival card and asked if I might borrow the pen of the immigration official to complete it. No, she replied, but she had a ballpen that she would sell to me for $2. WTF:eek:
You know what’s funny about Manila? They claim damn near every subdivision is exclusive. The subdivisions I call exclusive are Forbes Park and Dasmariñas Village also take a look at the mini castles inside Ayala Alabang Village.
I remember getting a hair cut at the local mall and when the friendly conversation between me and the barber led to him asking where I lived. When I told him what subdivision he then in an excited tone asked “Are you rich.” I politely told him if I was rich I damn sure wouldn’t be living in PI.
I guess a guard and a gate is the criterion for exclusive :confused:
FreebieFan
04-10-09, 08:16
You know what’s funny about Manila? They claim damn near every subdivision is exclusive. The subdivisions I call exclusive are Forbes Park and Dasmariñas Village also take a look at the many castles inside Ayala Alabang Village.
I remember getting a hair cut at the local mall and when the friendly conversation between me and the barber led to him asking where I lived. When I told him what subdivision he then in an excited tone asked “Are you rich.” I politely told him if I was rich I damn sure wouldn’t be living in PI.
I guess a guard and a gate makes it exclusive :confused:Once long long long time ago, whn I was new in Manila and hadnt sorted out my lifestyle. I had a driver. He was driving an old Toyota Crown. Big bulky and crap. We came to gates of Ayala Alabang. They just waved us thru. I asked driver why. He said. They respected the car and assumed if I had one I must be rich. Damn it was a crap 15 yr old car.
So of course when I drove there later in my BMW 5 what did they do. Stop me of course. LOL
Cunning Stunt
04-10-09, 09:54
Don’t know where a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor kano might live, but a rich Filipino, with 10 million Pesos in his pocket, does expect a little more in terms of exclusivity, comfort and security than a cardboard box in Bushville. The subdivision that I referred to is a bastion of old money off Presidents Avenue, although I do believe standards there have dropped markedly recently since Honest Joe Estrada bought a house and moved in!
Isn’t it ironical that many Filipinos look up to Kanos as being ‘filthy rich’, whereas, in return, they are contemptuously dismissed as *****.*
* Insert an appropriate 5 letter word.
I thought I would add a little on this. RP is completely corrupt and bribe ridden. It is ubiquitous and standard practice. As mentioned public officials all become very wealthy on meager salaries. I love the story below about paying the $20 and then all the agents coming over for "their $20".
I know several people who ran for public office in the provinces. In the middle of nowhere, they will spend something like 100K US Dollars on a campaign. I couldn't believe it. Why.- the pay off is huge. Bribes plus you direct all civic business to your own company.
As an example re: campaigns, the candidates feed the locals with feasts throughout the campaign. Also, I was once told that voters come to the candidates houses for donations. I thought OK sounds good. But it actually means that they come for donations from the candidates to the voters.
I also know a former mayor. While mayor ultra wealthy (by Western standards).- lost office had to sell all his stuff. (He actually turned me on to Classmates KTV is QC.- quite expensive)
Another one, I know someone who was accused (incorrectly, I believe) of a pretty serious crime again in the provinces. At the end of the day it took a fee to the courts rather than any trial (several thousand USD--judges aren't dumb or cheap).
Also, the president and first gentleman have been accused of serious wrong doing. (the cable scandal)
Finally, I have had personal experience. Was going into Manila with a driver. As you may know, there is a travel restriction in Manila with regard to out of city license plates. Basically, I believe you cannot drive some days based on whether your license plate ends odd or even (this keeps the traffic down LOL). So we were in violation. We got pulled over by cops and they told us that we were going to be cited. Then pretty much nothing happened for a while. Are we going, are we staying, is the car getting impounded etc etc. Didn't help of course that I am a foreigner. Anyway, they arrived upon their own solution that for 1000 pesos they could give us a motorcycle escort to my hotel. We took the escort. It didn't last long. So that was 1000 peso ST to use the terms of the forum.
Finally, one time I was at a bar in Burgos. There were two Filipino dudes dancing and goofing around at the front? When I tried to bar fine, the mamasan said no bar fine because those two fellows are police. She said, instead you can buy a round of drinks and take the girl. Decided to pass. Grateful to the mamasan.- cops would have been more than a bar fine. Presumably the cops were being annoying until compensated. So if you see Filipino dudes dancing in a bar, they are cops.- or its a different kind bar.
BF
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This happened to me. I brought my laptop here and found a manufacture recall after the laptop crashed, went on line to the company site and found a service center in Makati and they told me that I had to send it to the US for the recall repair or pay them to do it.Yes! Thats exactly right. 'Grey market' imports are not covered by warranty usually. The warranty ONLY applies in the country of purchase. There are rare exceptions.
AV
Starchild2012
04-11-09, 20:50
I think it is unfair to critisize filipinos being currupt....
Filipinos are the largest asian community in the US and yet they are not the highest currupt people in America...their we have all the bernie Madoffs and AIGs and wall streets executive...and they are all proper Americans.
What the Filipinos, Indians and the rest of the worls does curruption in their lifetimes...the Americans and the euorpeans do in one year in terms of billions and trillions..
So i think it averages out, :)....My point is there are bad and good people everywhere....
We need to stop thinking in terms of political boundaris like japan, korea, Uk or USA and start thinking along the lines of individual merit.
We are in global village people..every individual in this information age deserves to be judged based on its merit not from where he came.
There is a point to say RP government or officials are currupt but name one politician or "the management" who are honest in the whole world.....the whole government, politicans, officials breeds dishonesty...they are all control freaks....they acts against the freedom of an individual...
They suck the blood of ordinary people to survive themselves...only thing is when RP officials suck our blood we know it...but when Americans "officials" do we are never aware of it.
I lived curruption back in India, now im expeiriencing curruption in RP and we all do in some level on the worldwide lotting, greeed and curruption that is taking place right now.
I have stopped thinking in an old school ways and started taking each individual at their own merit and it helps a great deal to live life without much stress
Well said Born Loser 5. Are the other 4 brothers also losers, hehe!
Seriously, many mongers coming to the PIs are pissed about the corrupt government and forget about theirs at home. The only difference is, in the PIs, they bend you over and give it to you straight, where at home, they excuse themselves, put on some vaseline, then give it to you. But you'll end up with a bigger tear. Politicians and gov. officials generally only care about one thing and that's not public service.
i think it is unfair to criticize filipinos being currupt....
the filipinos, indians and the rest of the worls does curruption in their lifetimes...the americans and the euorpeans do in one year in terms of billions and trillions.. so i think it averages out, :)....my point is there are bad and good people everywhere....
filipinos are the largest asian community in the us and yet they are not the highest corrupt people in america...their we have all the bernie madoffs and aigs and wall streets executive...and they are all proper americans.
filipinos may be the largest asian group in america but they have no political power which rest in the hands of the whites, blacks and mexicans. you need power whether financial or political to be “corrupt” and in the states filipinos have none. also what the hell is a proper american? if you have american citizenship you are an american period.
no comparison here. in pi being “shaken down” by “officials” is a daily occurrence. police asking for handout, airport officials asking for handout. i have not experienced the police shake down but airport officials yep. have i experienced this in the west? um no.
those americans who got okie doked by those harvard degree having wall street gangsters got what the fuck they deserve. i am an uneducated cat from the hood and know better than to trust none other than reputable banks with my hard earned dollars. people who get involved with things like ponzi schemes are either greedy or stupid as hell. i have said on this forum countless times when you dance with the devil you better know how to dance around the flames.
we need to stop thinking in terms of political boundaris like japan, korea, uk or usa and start thinking along the lines of individual merit.
we are in global village people..every individual in this information age deserves to be judged based on its merit not from where he came.
i am sorry but i can’t buy this “we are world” bullshit. we are different just because of those political boundaries you mentioned. people are conditioned by their cultures, families, friends, social-economic status to believe whatever the hell they believe. you should know this better than most.
there is a point to say rp government or officials are currupt but name one politician or "the management" who are honest in the whole world.....the whole government, politicans, officials breeds dishonesty...they are all control freaks....they acts against the freedom of an individual...
they suck the blood of ordinary people to survive themselves...only thing is when rp officials suck our blood we know it...but when americans "officials" do we are never aware of it.
one thing though complaining about corruption and locals begging for money is foolish when you are in the third world. it’s like going to zoo and complaining about the strange smells :d i used to do this but then i had to take a long hard look at myself and my enviroment… i put myself in this space. no use in complaining about the short comings….
as for people not knowing they are being ripped off in pi, just read these threads mayne. guys having to pay bribes at the airport, getting shit stolen from hotel rooms by the “staff” etc. **** scams, random traffic stops, cops fishing for cash, the list goes on and on. a lot of the major crimes here are carried out by fucking cops here.
i will say again you cannot compare corruption in the west to corruption in pi. what about all the stone cold killers who have just walked out of prison here. assholes always use the oj trial to say this goes on in america but a racist cop fucked that up.
i have stopped thinking in an old school ways and started taking each individual at their own merit and it helps a great deal to live life without much stress
i don’t. because i can’t. i can’t deal with a filipino like one of my black brothers or sisters in the states. i can’t handle my afghan employees and friends like i would a white guy in the states. it is true we have our own merits but people respective countries do shape them…..
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=okie-doke
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/bernie_madoff
the subdivision that i referred to is a bastion of old money off presidents avenue, although i do believe standards there have dropped markedly recently since honest joe estrada bought a house and moved in!
joseph estrada the ousted former head of state who travels around without security lol. even lowly american rap stars have their own security detail. hope there are more prestigious people living in this “bastion of old money” than that :d
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/nation/view/20080127-115037/hk-immigration-detains-estrada-for-not-having-security-men
Rubberyman
04-12-09, 08:48
no comparison here. in pi being “shaken down” by “officials” is a daily occurrence. police asking for handout, airport officials asking for handout. i have not experienced the police shake down but airport officials yep. have i experienced this in the west? um no.
those americans who got okie doked by those harvard degree having wall street gangsters got what the fuck they deserve. i am an uneducated cat from the hood and know better than to trust none other than reputable banks with my hard earned dollars. (snip)
people are conditioned by their cultures, families, friends, social-economic status to believe whatever the hell they believe. you should know this better than most.
as for people not knowing they are being ripped off in pi, just read these threads mayne. guys having to pay bribes at the airport, getting shit stolen from hotel rooms by the “staff” etc. **** scams, random traffic stops, cops fishing for cash, the list goes on and on. a lot of the major crimes here are carried out by fucking cops here.
i will say again you cannot compare corruption in the west to corruption in pi. what about all the stone cold killers who have just walked out of prison here. assholes always use the oj trial to say this goes on in america but a racist cop fucked that up.
i don’t. because i can’t. i can’t deal with a filipino like one of my black brothers or sisters in the states. i can’t handle my afghan employees and friends like i would a white guy in the states. it is true we have our own merits but people respective countries do shape them…..
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=okie-doke
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/bernie_madoff
joseph estrada the ousted former head of state who travels around without security lol. even lowly american rap stars have their own security detail. hope more prestigious people living in this “bastion of old money” than that :d
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/nation/view/20080127-115037/hk-immigration-detains-estrada-for-not-having-security-men
i think that the point bl5 was trying to make is that each country has its own types of 'corruption' - as you say shaped by the country and culture itself.
so, maybe the pi has more corruption at the petty official level which means that you get nickeled and dimed frequently, whereas the us has more corruption at the high level that means you lose thousands of dollars every now and then. you make the point that you did not get caught in any of the us financial swindles - i might make a similar point that i have not yet been nickeled and dimed by any local officials on my visits to the pi. (does not mean that i disagree with you that it happens of course).
nonetheless, because of the corruption of the us financial system - even those who were not greedy are now losing their jobs, businesses that could have made $$ legitimately are going to go under because banks won't give them cash flow - i bet every us person on this board who has retirement savings would have lost more money in the past year through us corruption and incompetence than they would lose if they walked down don juico to fields blind drunk at four in the morning with a pocket full of pisos. some people will have been ruined by the us financial crisis through no fault of their own (think the extra 660+k people who lost their jobs last month - were they all greedy?). and i bet you a cool san mig beer of your choice if you think that most of those responsible will even get a slap over the wrist with a wet one dollar bill. perhaps someone on a congressional committee might say something nasty to them - oooh, the pain i bet those guys feel as they head back to their mansions and mistresses. i bet that while madoff and one or two others might get slammed, most of them will sit back laughing and will never get caught.
while i did not 'lose' any money so far because of the financial crisis - i sure as hell would have made $60k more if the crisis did not hit and my normal average investments had maintained their returns. so personally i will not criticise the philipinos for corruption until i get taken for about 3mill pisos - that's a whole lot of nickel and dime stuff imho.
i think with the case of joe estrada you actually make a point for the phils. is it safer to live in a country where a former president can move freely without a set of bodyguards, or in one where anyone of note has to have bodyguars because some loonytune will want to try to kill them if they are unprotected?
the phils is different for sure, but trying to make a case that it is more corrupt or dangerous, or that there are more scams here just illustrates the fact that we normally ignore our own corrupt and dangerous situations because we work round them all the time and just see them as part of the landscape rather than corruption as such. sure, the phils have corruption and places of danger no doubt at all...but more than the us? perhaps bring this up with some honest worker from main st who has lost his job in the us through the nonsense on wall st and now can't keep his house over his family.
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I think with the case of Joe Estrada you actually make a point for the Phils. Is it safer to live in a country where a former president can move freely without a set of bodyguards, or in one where anyone of note has to have bodyguars because some loonytune will want to try to kill them if they are unprotected?
The Phils is different for sure, but trying to make a case that it is more corrupt or dangerous, or that there are more scams here just illustrates the fact that we normally ignore our own corrupt and dangerous situations because we work round them all the time and just see them as part of the landscape rather than corruption as such. Sure, the Phils have corruption and places of danger no doubt at all...but more than the US? Perhaps bring this up with some honest worker from Main St who has lost his job in the US through the nonsense on Wall St and now can't keep his house over his family.
First and foremost want to say great post but let me say this I do believe the average person would rather deal with the corruption of the west then the corruption of PI. On the flip slide I do believe the corruption is what creates the climate for the mongering opportunities we love so much. I am not complaining about corruption in PI Just stating for the sake of debating my man’s post.
Nickels and Dimes add up and when you have to watch every monetarily transaction like your life depends on it becomes disheartening after awhile. As a tourist I didn’t worry about things much but when I moved out here it was my significant other who instructed me to stop letting these guys get away with two or thirteen dollars…. In her words “You converting it to dollars to in your head so it’s little money to you but in Pesos it’s substantial.”
Also I said those people who got tricked by things like Ponzi schemes were stupid or greedy not all Americans who have lost out. I myself use to brag about my material possessions but when you got friends and family who have been effected by this economic crisis it’s kind of like pulling up at a homeless shelter in a Lamborghini :D
Danger….I tell people all the time I feel safer in Manila than the American city I grew up in.
As for Joseph not having bodyguards… I think you did not read the link I attached to my post.
Rubberyman
04-12-09, 13:49
I agree with most of what you say, perhaps just some comments.
From what I can gather, a lot of people who were caught by Madoff actually figured out that he was doing something wrong. However, they thought he was scamming other people on their behalf to get those good returns - whereas he was scamming them. ie they thought he was corrupt - perhaps using inside information illegally. Too bad he was just a simple crook - and I agree that their greed brought them undone.
On the other hand, some of the schemes being proposed by the banks and the US Govt to bail out the toxic loans at the moment not only look like the taxpayer is risking a 1 for 1 in buying them up, but there is also a hidden extra kickback to the private sector that only comes up if the numbers are crunched real carefully. Of course this means that the US Taxpayer is being nickel and dimed for a dollar or two each week if it gets up.
I also agree that most people who come from another culture will prefer their own systems to those of the local culture. One thing I notice with co-workers coming from other cultures is that they frequently say "In my country we do this some other way". While this can be a little annoying, it is also sometimes a bit of a wake up call in that one can get used to one's own environment and practices without realising that perhaps they are bad or dangerous. It is a bit like going to another country where they drive on the other side of the road....now how do they do that right hand turn again??? Yikes! Of course we prefer our own side of the road because we know how to do it.
I also agree that one should try to avoid the nickel and diming as you say. I was not trying to condone corruption or being scammed - merely to say that there are people in this world who will try to be corrupt and scam no matter what the culture. It just manifests itself differently in the Phils (such as bribery of petty officials in the Phils vs bankers skimming off your pension fund in the US) - but I don't see it as being worse. In the Phils you, the ATM, get touched for a bottle of Tanduhay for the GF's brothers, and the GF comes through for you. In the US you, the ATM, get touched up through your taxes to help Elliot Spitzer (or his equivalent in your State) pay for his escorts.
Perhaps that is the core of my argument: The corruption in the Phils allows us to come over and screw our brains out (as you point out) - the corruption in the US and places like Australia, New Zealand and the UK allows the political bosses and bankers to screw their brains out with our money.
As for JE - I confess. You got me there. :)
LoveAsianWhores
04-12-09, 14:40
Are you Filipino? Is your wife? You must have the balls of a bull, to walk into customs and hand out $20 bills Maybe 15 or 20 years ago, but INHO today, you are risking getting caught. Any idea what the penalty is for this, if you get an honest officer? The risk is there, but very small if you know what you are doing. You certainly don't just give the guy $20 just like that. You size up the situation before making a move. In this particular situation, he clearly notices the flat TV box and we start to talk. I ask "do I have to pay tax? " "so how does this work? " "I am in a big hurry, what can we so I don't miss my ride". At that point, if you have lived here a while, you will know what type of guy you are dealing with. Wait to see how it goes. If it looks good, you say, "can I just pay you the tax right now, and you can fill out the forms later". Depending on his response, and your experiance with paying bribes (and boy, do I have experiance! ), you should be quite certain that things are OK and you can give the $20 (but this is an open area, so it should already be folded underneath your customs form). If he is one of the 99% of customs officials that is on the take, you will know it if you have lived here a while. Now, the other four guys wanting their $20's, caught me by surprise (but I had a lot of cash in my pocket for just such a contingency). They were not concerned AT ALL about taking their $20 openly. Imagine, in NAIA, with everyone looking, and I'm passing out $20's to customs officers!
I would not recommend the above unless you have lived here for at least a year, and you are bringing enough into the country to make the risk worth while. And even then, don't try it with commericial quantities of anything. If things do go wrong, the government may take an active role in prosecuting you if you are smuggling in 100 items of xyz product because that is a key policy to combat smuggling. But bringing in expensive items that appear to be for your own use is not something the government cares enough about to put you through their special "corruption proof" judicial processes.
And make no mistake, if the regular courts in Paranaque are anything like those in Passay, you could be caught red handed, on video tape commiting a crime that carries a minimum 12 year sentance, and just pay a bribe to the fiscal to make it go away. Trust me, I know.
Penalty for a serious offense in the Philippines: 12 years. Bribe to get you out and about in no time: Priceless.
Some people leave the Philippines to get away from the corruption. Personally, it's why I'm here.
Hobby Knob
04-13-09, 07:32
Thats interesting GH because i've had things held up in customs many times. Having to send a staffer down there to pay the duties/taxes even when it was CLEARLY second hand (not new) goods gets old fast i can tell you. These arseholes just levy a tax based on the new price for the item regardless of whether it is new or not.
I've even had to pay & then been given an empty box with a hole ripped in it where the goods have been pilfered.
Personally carrying it in to the country as checked baggage seems the only safe route.
P.S. What is this international warranty people are talking about? Maybe Sony is a special case or maybe yanks get some special deal that i dont know about? Usually vendors will not honour warranty outside country of purchase.
AV
When ever we go, which has been 4 out of the past 5 years, we bring many balikbayan boxes, all with the max 70 lbs (now down to 50).
Each time the person at customs says, "I'm Going to have to open the box" My asawa will always say, "go ahead". The customs person will repeat they will have to open the box and wait for us to hand them money. My asawa always tells them go ahead, (even though we have had computers, TV's etc...) They have NEVER opened the boxes. They always threaten, but haven't done it.
Maybe my asawa just knows how to play it, but we have never had an issue, and this happens EVERY time we arrive. (usually 8-10 boxes)
The risk is there, but very small if you know what you are doing. You certainly don't just give the guy $20 just like that. You size up the situation before making a move. In this particular situation, he clearly notices the flat TV box and we start to talk. I ask "do I have to pay tax? " "so how does this work? " "I am in a big hurry, what can we so I don't miss my ride". At that point, if you have lived here a while, you will know what type of guy you are dealing with. Wait to see how it goes. If it looks good, you say, "can I just pay you the tax right now, and you can fill out the forms later". Depending on his response, and your experiance with paying bribes (and boy, do I have experiance! ), you should be quite certain that things are OK and you can give the $20 (but this is an open area, so it should already be folded underneath your customs form). If he is one of the 99% of customs officials that is on the take, you will know it if you have lived here a while. Now, the other four guys wanting their $20's, caught me by surprise (but I had a lot of cash in my pocket for just such a contingency). They were not concerned AT ALL about taking their $20 openly. Imagine, in NAIA, with everyone looking, and I'm passing out $20's to customs officers!
I would not recommend the above unless you have lived here for at least a year, and you are bringing enough into the country to make the risk worth while. Thanks for adding the additional information. I have lived here for the last year and 19 months of the last two years. I understand exactly what you mean, asking if you can pay now. I thought you just offered the money. I shipped 1000 lbs by ship and I had to pay $600 customs fee. The crate was delivered to me with a bill and I had no choice but to pay it or refuse my shipment.
Robb
...Some people leave the Philippines to get away from the corruption. Personally, it's why I'm here.Funny post LAW! The last sentence is very true for many of us here. Flips often say to me "Philippines is a nice place... if you have money". That pretty much sums it up. Here its best to keep a low profile & not attract attention but its nice to know you have the clout of $$$ behind you when needed. Your always gonna be a rung below a rich local but still above 98% people here in this country.
Moral of the story? Dont get too cocky, if you [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off a rich local or someone with very good connections you could be in a world of hurt.
AV
...America to the rescue yet again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DhWGnQhF1Q
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floyd_Mayweather_Jr
Disclaimer:
To all Europeans just fucking around. Don't want anyone saying I am slyly taking shots at them. Just wanted to see Pacquiao get his ass beat, the guy who was tasked with the job failed as expected. I am just happy to see one of my favorite and fellow Americans has come out of retirement to show Manny a little American Hospitality :D
Be careful out there as drunk locals celebrate yet another victory on the international stage. :D
GoodEnough
05-03-09, 14:38
Moral of the story? Dont get too cocky, if you [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off a rich local or someone with very good connections you could be in a world of hurt.
AV
Good advice from AV, and since you never know exactly who the rich locals are, or those with connections, it's probably better to go out of your way never to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off anyone.
As to LAW's statement about corruption, it was funny, but for me, after six years of witnessing the voracious and unending greed, the total venality of the politicians and their sense of entitlement, it all starts to wear a bit thin.
GE
Can anyone suggest where I might find the coldest/driest places in the Philippines?
I know it's still gonna be quite hot and humid, but I'll settle for the least hot and humid spot.
Can anyone suggest where I might find the coldest/driest places in the Philippines?
I know it's still gonna be quite hot and humid, but I'll settle for the least hot and humid spot.
Try the top of the highest mountain in the Phils, Mt Apo, 9,600 feet! I had a night out there waiting for a fine view the next day. It was windy, raining, low cloud, and it was bloody cold. Just like home at that time of the year! My hired guide, porter and I in a two man tent. I wasnt quick enough to get in and I ended up on the downside of the tent which was soon flooded. A miserable night and no better in the morning. But the mountain looked magnificient at the end of the day when I had descended to Digos and looked back up into a cloudless sky!
I suspect the mountain gets the odd flake of snow from time to time. They say Mount Apo is dormant but there is plenty of signs of thermal activity there.
KK
Can anyone suggest where I might find the coldest/driest places in the Philippines?
You are not going to escape the humidity but Baguio City (El. 5100 ft.) is known for it's cool climate. Originally established by the American Armed Forces to escape the summer heat, it has a good combination of infrastructure and homeyness but is subject to earthquakes. In recent years the quality of living has started to wane due to population surge.
Cunning Stunt
05-06-09, 04:22
Can anyone suggest where I might find the coldest/driest places in the Philippines?
The Philippines doesn't really do cold and dry. Even the coldest days here (except in the mountains) are warmer than a typical summers day, back home. Not the place to live if you have medical reasons (i.e asthma) for needing it cool and dry.
I had a night out there waiting for a fine view the next day. It was windy, raining, low cloud, and it was bloody cold. Just like home at that time of the year! My hired guide, porter and I in a two man tent.
Sounds like fun KK...not! I've always wanted to share a tent, on the top of some god forsaken Philippine mountain, with a hairy arsed man, but I guess that will have to remain on my to-do list. I assume that your guide was a man - if not, disregard the aforementioned:D.
FreebieFan
05-06-09, 05:06
The Philippines doesn't really do cold and dry. Even the coldest days here (except in the mountains) are warmer than a typical summers day, back home. Not the place to live if you have medical reasons (i.e asthma) for needing it cool and dry.
Sounds like fun KK...not! I've always wanted to share a tent, on the top of some god forsaken Philippine mountain, with a hairy arsed man, but I guess that will have to remain on my to-do list. I assume that your guide was a man - if not, disregard the aforementioned:D.Wow.
Maybe this was where the storyline and script of Brokeback Mountain came from!
Can anyone suggest where I might find the coldest/driest places in the Philippines?
I know it's still gonna be quite hot and humid, but I'll settle for the least hot and humid spot.
From all reports baguio is the place, never been there so I don't know.
spamhog
HornyGeorge
05-07-09, 18:58
The hippie town of Sagada is even cooler than Baguio, but anywhere up in the Cordillera is cool enough, and Baguio is more accessible and has much more to do. Still nowhere in the mountains is really good for finding girls. Better bring them from the lowlands but you'll need to buy them a jacket as lowlanders get cold in Baguio and points North.
There is much less humidity (cold air holds less moisture). The climate is really a lovely change from the lowlands,although it can be foggy and drizzly a fair bit. And it gets quite cold at night even for those used to temperate climates so a light jacket is advisable.
Good golfing too (the Koreans sure love it).
Mt Apo, outside Davao on Mindanao, has no towns or anything. The Monkey Eating eagle reserve but not much else.
The hippie town of Sagada is even cooler than Baguio, but anywhere up in the Cordillera is cool enough, and Baguio is more accessible and has much more to do. Still nowhere in the mountains is really good for finding girls. Better bring them from the lowlands but you'll need to buy them a jacket as lowlanders get cold in Baguio and points North.
When rainy and cold, Baguio is little different from flu-conducive Northern California in the winter, except that it lacks indoor heating. The city, choked with migrants and congested with traffic, is nowadays little better than any lowland town. Further up the mountains, you will find Ifugao people. If find the girls distinctly less attractive than the national ethnicity. An Ifugao GF in Manila, a nursing student, descriped her squarish body (and face) and thick legs as typical of mountain people. Bring your own is good advice, but you can also pre-arrange with someone on a dating site.
There are only two things Philippines has to offer:
Great beaches, pretty girls....
Thats it!!
Blink :)
There are only two things Philippines has to offer:
Great beaches, pretty girls....
Thats it!!
Blink :)
Shit that’s all. Hell there is a vast of amount of countries that offer this. You going to have to come up with something better than this Hans :D
FreebieFan
05-12-09, 00:59
Shit that’s all. Hell there is a vast of amount of countries that offer this. You going to have to come up with something better than this Hans :DI'd have to add very cheap and very good beer !
And girls booze and beaches doesnt sound too bad as Im sitting behind my work desk at this moment!
LoveAsianWhores
05-12-09, 09:25
So, I have been living in my new house for over a year now. Since I have been living here, I have been having water heater problems in all the bathrooms. To make a long story short, the contractor replaced/repaired the water heaters several times, but always the same problem. I got so mad one day, that I made a threatening email to Ayala that unless they replaced all my water heaters with brand new, high quality water heaters, they were going to have some serious problems from me. Three days later, they showed up with brand new panasonic water heaters for all the bathrooms. Still, the same problem. At this point, I didn't know what to do and just decided to live with it. That was about 3 months ago. Anyway, living with the problem for so long, I noticed that the water heaters in all three bathrooms only turned off when the cold water was also turned on. There was not enough water pressure in the bathrooms, so with the cold water on, the water heaters turned off as they would over heat without enough water passing through them. So I call the contractor over, he agrees, but doesn't know hot to fix the problem. Maybe the pipes are too small going to the bathroom. He sends over a "specialist", does some testing, and can't fix the problem. Oh well, looks like I will have to live with the problem. Anyway, today, while the hose was on, there was no hot water in the bathrooms. I take a look at the water under the sink to see if could get the light to come on by opening both sink hot water faucets, but still no luck (it usually works). At this time, I notice a red valve next to the water heater. I figure maybe by turning, I could get more hot water (too obvious to work, but you never know). It turns out, that it a type of valve that must be turned several times until it reaches the end to allow full water pressure (I assume to regulate water pressure). Problem solved. I go to the other bathrooms, same solution fixes the problem there as well.
Sure, I am idiot for not thinking of that earlier, but then again, I not the company that built the house and has come to my house maybe 20 times in the last year and didn't figure it out either. And it was their money that replaced the water heaters multiple times.
The point to this story? I don't know. Maybe it is that there are no experts on anything here, just workers that are only trained to do certain things. Or maybe it is that when you live amoung morons, you can become one too. Or maybe the moral is just that sometimes, the solution is so simple, you don't even think of it. Either way, I am just thankfull that I can now take a hot shower.
GoodEnough
05-12-09, 11:20
Well, that's some but not all. You can have a great standard of living here for example, for far less than the equivalent would cost in the US or France, the two countries with which I'm most familiar. The people are, in general, pretty decent folk, which is an asset. It's central to many other SE Asian countries, so you can always escape quickly and easily for a little relief if you get bored here, and in many, if not most places, the traffic is manageable.
GE
cold beer? we have the best beer in germany.
mngble traffic? no traffic in my country compared to the shitty traffic here in manila.
higher standard of living....korrek, but..how about the polution?? how about when you leave your home? then you have to deal with the f..ckn traffic, fu..ckn stupid busdrivers, cabdrivers etc ehehehehe..good if you dont live in metro manila. not so good if you live somewhere in the jungle with no internet, phone signal, no western food, etc..surrounded by roosters and barking little pudels :d
shopping? yes you can buy all the crap here in the phils which cant be sold to western countries. specially electronics, crappy and sometimes overprized.
customer service? none...ever tried to get a phone line?or postpaid simcard?
internetspeed? its not 3mb its allways up to 3mb. its crap, its bullshit :d
loans? ever try to get a loan here?
security? more secure in western countries.
medical treatment? well, guess no comment on that :d
so its chicks and beaches, great beaches and great chicks. rest you can forget. education (lol), manpower (double lol), gouvernment (lolololol)
the philippines smile :d ( i lost it since i work here ehehehe).
its really the chicks who keep me here. those gourgeous pretty fresh and hot women.
thats really all. i will continue staying here, but after some time you see the real thing.
living in the philippines is ok, but you have to pay a price.
i have never see so many stupid people at one place at a time since i left germany :d
blink out for a cold sm light
i'd have to add very cheap and very good beer !
and girls booze and beaches doesnt sound too bad as im sitting behind my work desk at this moment!as im sitting behind my work desk at this moment!
want to trade jobs? i am sure your job is more fun than touring a war-torn city baby-sitting spoiled diplomats...
well, that's some but not all. you can have a great standard of living here for example, for far less than the equivalent would cost in the us
correct but if you want to live decently you still have to come out of the pocket.
the people are, in general, pretty decent folk, which is an asset.
i beg to differ. besides the scams, cheating and criminal elements....fake "gfe" one of my neighbors in my “exclusive” subdivision made a complaint saying my water pump was sucking all the water from everyone else then personally came over to investigate. the lady owns four fucking late model cars why don't she just buy her own :confused:
it's central to many other se asian countries, so you can always escape quickly and easily for a little relief if you get bored here, and in many, if not most places, the traffic is manageable.
ge
i must admit i do enjoy living on this side of the planet....
cold beer? we have the best beer in germany.
mngble traffic? no traffic in my country compared to the shitty traffic here in manila.
higher standard of living....korrek, but..how about the polution?? how about when you leave your home? then you have to deal with the f..ckn traffic, fu..ckn stupid busdrivers, cabdrivers etc ehehehehe..good if you dont live in metro manila. not so good if you live somewhere in the jungle with no internet, phone signal, no western food, etc..surrounded by roosters and barking little pudels :d
shopping? yes you can buy all the crap here in the phils which cant be sold to western countries. specially electronics, crappy and sometimes overprized.
customer service? none...ever tried to get a phone line?or postpaid simcard?
internetspeed? its not 3mb its allways up to 3mb. its crap, its bullshit :d
loans? ever try to get a loan here?
security? more secure in western countries.
medical treatment? well, guess no comment on that :d
so its chicks and beaches, great beaches and great chicks. rest you can forget. education (lol), manpower (double lol), gouvernment (lolololol)
the philippines smile ( i lost it since i work here ehehehe).
its really the chicks who keep me here. those gourgeous pretty fresh and hot women.
thats really all. i will continue staying here, but after some time you see the real thing.
living in the philippines is ok, but you have to pay a price.
i have never see so many stupid people at one place at a time since i left germany
blink out for a cold sm light
lol.
Rubberyman
05-12-09, 13:13
I beg to differ. Besides the scams, cheating and criminal elements....fake "GFE" One of my neighbors in my “exclusive” Subdivision made a complaint saying my water pump was sucking all the water from everyone else then personally came over to investigate. The lady owns four fucking cars why don't she just buy her own :confused:
Normally you're not allowed to have pumps like that in most western cities...because it does suck from everyone else....and often the person who buys the next pump buys a bigger one, the next person a bigger one again...and the person that bought the first pump has to go replace it because it is the weakest and no longer working. The best thing to do is for the Subdivision to buy one big common mother of a pump - individual pumps will get you into a pointless competition.
(The hydraulics can get a bit more complicated than that, but the principle is there).
Rubberyman
05-12-09, 13:21
cold beer? we have the best beer in Germany.
Only if you import it from the Czech Republic.
At' zije Plzensky Prazdroj!
Or Staropramen
Or Krusovice
Or Bernard
Or Eggenberk
Or Budvar
Normally you're not allowed to have pumps like that in most western cities...because it does suck from everyone else....and often the person who buys the next pump buys a bigger one, the next person a bigger one again...and the person that bought the first pump has to go replace it because it is the weakest and no longer working. The best thing to do is for the Subdivision to buy one big common mother of a pump - individual pumps will get you into a pointless competition.
(The hydraulics can get a bit more complicated than that, but the principle is there).
The water pressure in this country is laughable without one of these things.
http://www.liveinthephilippines.com/content/2009/02/its-a-low-pressure-situation/
http://www.ehow.com/how_4751007_good-water-pressure-philippines.html
Keep in mind I don't live in some run of the mill “Sub” Bruh...
Chocha Monger
05-12-09, 19:20
The water pressure in this country is laughable without one of these things.
http://www.liveinthephilippines.com/content/2009/02/its-a-low-pressure-situation/
http://www.ehow.com/how_4751007_good-water-pressure-philippines.html
Keep in mind I don't live in some run of the mill “Sub” Bruh...
You can try getting an elevated plastic tank. Pump the water into the tank and then let gravity provide the pressure to feed it throughout your house. That would cut down on the amount of time the pump runs since you would shut it off once your tank fills up. You don't want to pull water from your neighbors' plumbing. If they have cross-connections the potential exists for you to pull contaminated water into your pipes. I doubt that they bother to install backflow prevention devices between their plumbing and the water mains. Make sure you don't drink any of that water. It's probably not potable.
Cunning Stunt
05-13-09, 04:07
The shortage of fresh water is an increasing problem throughout Manila (mainly due to mismanagement and subsequent leakage of this valuable resource). Many areas of town have no pumped supply and poorer household have to rely on whatever water they can drag from public standpipes (often at great distance from their houses – just like in Africa!). This is why you will often see people carting buckets of water about. Imagine life with no running water.
Other areas (the richer parts of town) have a more regular piped supply, either from Manila Water or through one of the many small private waterworks that pump water up from artesian well and supply a restricted area. Even this supply is usually intermittent and unreliable so most households (and all large condo developments) have large galvanized steel water tanks situated above the property to store h2o. This is filled by electric pump when the piped supply is on. Even so, there are a plenty of subdivisions that have no piped water at all and therefore have to truck water in at regular intervals.
The best solution if you live in a house and have the space, is to bring in specialists to dig a private well on your own property. Dig deep enough, almost anywhere in Manila, and you hit fresh water. Pumped up, this ensures that you have a constant, inexhaustible supply of fresh, potable water. But it is not cheap (but not prohibitively expensive either) and is the method of choice for many richer Manilans.
FreebieFan
05-13-09, 05:52
The shortage of fresh water is an increasing problem throughout Manila (mainly due to mismanagement and subsequent leakage of this valuable resource). Many areas of town have no pumped supply and poorer household have to rely on whatever water they can drag from public standpipes (often at great distance from their houses – just like in Africa! ). This is why you will often see people carting buckets of water about. Imagine life with no running water.
Other areas (the richer parts of town) have a more regular piped supply, either from Manila Water or through one of the many small private waterworks that pump water up from artesian well and supply a restricted area. Even this supply is usually intermittent and unreliable so most households (and all large condo developments) have large galvanized steel water tanks situated above the property to store c2o. This is filled by electric pump when the piped supply is on. Even so, there are a plenty of subdivisions that have no piped water at all and therefore have to truck water in at regular intervals.
The best solution if you live in a house and have the space, is to bring in specialists to dig a private well on your own property. Dig deep enough, almost anywhere in Manila, and you hit fresh water. Pumped up, this ensures that you have a constant, inexhaustible supply of fresh, potable water. But it is not cheap (but not prohibitively expensive either) and is the method of choice for many richer Manilans.Apropos of nothing, the Peninsula Hotel has 17 wells. Don't ask how I know this.
The shortage of fresh water is an increasing problem throughout Manila (mainly due to mismanagement and subsequent leakage of this valuable resource). Many areas of town have no pumped supply and poorer household have to rely on whatever water they can drag from public standpipes (often at great distance from their houses – just like in Africa!). This is why you will often see people carting buckets of water about. Imagine life with no running water.
Other areas (the richer parts of town) have a more regular piped supply, either from Manila Water or through one of the many small private waterworks that pump water up from artesian well and supply a restricted area. Even this supply is usually intermittent and unreliable so most households (and all large condo developments) have large galvanized steel water tanks situated above the property to store c2o. This is filled by electric pump when the piped supply is on. Even so, there are a plenty of subdivisions that have no piped water at all and therefore have to truck water in at regular intervals.
The best solution if you live in a house and have the space, is to bring in specialists to dig a private well on your own property. Dig deep enough, almost anywhere in Manila, and you hit fresh water. Pumped up, this ensures that you have a constant, inexhaustible supply of fresh, potable water. But it is not cheap (but not prohibitively expensive either) and is the method of choice for many richer Manilans.
Excellent report. I had no idea water was such a big issue here. Didn't know the pumps "sucked from everyone else" I thought the pump only gave a "boost" to the flow of water only :confused:
The pump only operates when water is requested from the house(flushed toilets, faucets turned on) and not all the time.
GoodEnough
05-13-09, 11:41
Water is a major deal here, not just in Manila. Cebu, for example, is running out of ground water due to total lack of investment, unchecked development, total lack of system maintenance, and political indifference. The problems are compounded by theft of water from illegal taps, which of course contributes to the generally low pressure. As is the case with power, the government invests very little, except in empty rhetoric, and in general waits around for a donor to come through with funding.
GE
Another issue with water in Manila is that it is often very hard so the mineral buildup screws up the plumbing. I think all the better hotels must filter their water, and I assume the rich do this too.
Water delivery is quite common in many areas. You will see water trucks making deliveries from which the residents will fill up a few 30 to 50 gallon drums. One in the bathroom and one in the kitchen is a common arrangement. My local contacts did not consider this water to be potable; it was used for washing dishes, showering from the bucket and flushing the toilet. For potable water that is suitable for cooking and drinking, there are often separate deliveries of 5 gallon plastic containers which are themselves reused.
Anyway, something to think about for those who go real estate shopping, whether renting or buying.
Bill Buxton
05-16-09, 02:08
Check out e-bay and some other sites,seems like there is lots of everything for sale.Many high end homes for sale around could this be the time to buy?
Be careful!
Anyway, something to think about for those who go real estate shopping, whether renting or buying.
GoodEnough
05-16-09, 12:12
One of the nice things about living in Davao is the quality of the water, though not the water pressure. You can drink the water here straight from the tap with no fear of illness. However, Davao, like other major urban area, is straining its supply.
GE
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How do I see squatter people? I see me in them. While the notorious American ghetto from which I was bred doesn’t quite compare to the squatters of the Philippines it is not far from it.
I am not at all concerned about the squatters there. Just like what happened my old neighborhood due to gentrification they will be removed sooner or later.
http://www.inquirer.net/propertyguide/onthissitewillrise/view.php?db=1&article=20090513-204655
1,000 families face eviction in Taguig
Philippine Daily Inquirer
MANILA, Philippines—At least 1,000 families in four sitios in Western Bicutan, Taguig City, have been told to leave their houses which, according to the military, are built on government property.
In a memorandum from the Philippine Army’s Task Group Bantay dated May 7, the residents of Masigasig, Masagana and parts of Katipunan and Sunriser were told to voluntarily demolish their “illegally constructed structures” within three days.
The memorandum was signed by Lt. Col. Salic Pangadir, task group adjutant.
On Tuesday, the deadline set by Pangadir, around 20 soldiers arrived in Sitio Masigasig to enforce the memorandum. They were in full battle gear and armed with long firearms, truncheons and shields.
A fight broke out between them and the residents, with both sides sustaining minor injuries.
The soldiers later left although they told the residents that they will return to enforce the memorandum.
Wilma Superales, secretary general of Nagkakaisang Maralita ng Sitio Masigasig Inc., said that around 1,000 families who will be affected by the eviction order have nowhere to go.
She added that they will not leave the area until the soldiers can show them a court order.
In 2006, the Commission on the Settlement of Land Problems (Coslap) issued a resolution, saying the area in question had been declared “alienable and disposable” by Presidential Proclamation 2476 which was issued by then President Ferdinand Marcos.
Last month, the Court of Appeals reversed and set aside the Coslap resolution based on a motion filed by the Department of National Defense which is claiming ownership of the area.
Carly Isla, Taguig City government information officer, said that since the land is owned by the DND, the department should be responsible for the residents’ relocation.
Cunning Stunt
05-18-09, 04:47
The area has been earmarked for improvement for some time. The plan is for Taguig to become a mid-grade commuter/residential area for nearby Makati. Several access roads to new developments have been put on hold due to the presence of squatter homes in their way. We all know it is the developers who are buying government support for their plans. But this is the Philippines and this is the way things are done here although it should be the developers responsibility to re-house the displaced people although it probably will not happen that way.
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/metro/view/20090515-205107/Taguig-settlers-eviction-still-on-amid-appeal
Taguig settlers eviction still on amid appeal
By Niña Catherine Calleja
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 02:17:00 05/15/2009
Filed Under: Housing & Urban Planning, Military
MANILA, Philippines -- Despite a request from Taguig City Mayor Tiñga to stop the eviction of 1,000 families in Western Bicutan, the military yesterday tore down some of the houses built on a piece of government-owned property.
Wilma Separales, secretary general of the Nagkakaisang Maralita ng Sitio Masigasig Inc., said that almost three-fourths of the houses in Sitio Masigasig were demolished, a day after Tiñga went to the area to personally ask the military to stop tearing down the residents’ houses.
She said members of the Philippine Army’s Task Group Bantay arrived in the area at around 8 a.m. and resumed demolishing their houses.
“There was a misunderstanding,” Tiñga said when he was asked for comment.
Assistance
However, Task Group Bantay ground commander Colonel Marcial Constante Jr. said that they were in the area to provide assistance to the affected families who had decided to vacate their houses.
Separales said the military was sowing fear among residents. “We thought they were our protectors,” she said in Filipino.
Tiñga, meanwhile, said the city government would construct a temporary relocation area for displaced residents beside Centennial Village, located from across Sitio Masigasig, this week.
Qualified
However, only qualified settlers, estimated at around 400 families, would be accommodated in the relocation area, he added.
Earlier this week, soldiers from Task Group Bantay started demolishing houses in four sitios in Taguig City after task group adjutant, Lieutenant Colonel Salic Pangadir, issued a memorandum ordering residents of Masigasig, Masagana and parts of Katipunan and Sunriser to voluntarily demolish their “illegally constructed structures” within three days.
On Tuesday, soldiers dressed in full battle gear and armed with long firearms, truncheons and shields, went to the area.
A fight later broke out between them and the residents with both sides sustaining minor injuries
GoodEnough
05-18-09, 13:01
The problem of squatters building on land owned by the government or other entities is endemic throughout the country, and is compounded by the fact that the land titling here is so totally screwed up that it's difficult to establish legitimate claim to property. In many cases, "hereditary rights" to land were established in the murky mists of bygone eras, and enormous tracts of valuable lands are ruled, much as in medieval times, by "datus" or lords, to whom the squatters remain in perennial servitude. Poor people here have no voice, few legal rights, and no clout, so when the government decides to seize what little they have, it does so with impunity, doubtless fueled by the payoffs provided by the developers.
There are no Jessie Jacksons, Al Sharptons, Cesar Chavezes, much less Martin Luther Kings here, and the poor have virtually no national spokespersons with any national credibility. Worse, the Government can establish a "legal" basis for doing whatever it wants to or feels it needs to do without fear of any sanctions from the courts, which also provide verdicts to the highest bidders.
GE
Have you read this shit?? made my day LOL
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=469522&publicationSubCategoryId=70
and then the response from another lowlife
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/1 ... 04509.html
Two things the Philippines have to offer:
pretty girls and pretty beaches..ok and cold SM, thats all.
Reading a post in Philsstar today that GMA assets gained 44 million pesos or so since she run for president made me thinking in what country I live now.
No, I dont think, I gave up on that allready and I dont care at all. I know I live in Neanderthaler-land (Philippines) and in cavetown-city (Metro Manila)
Beer, bitches and beaches thats it, thats why Im here :))
Blink
Cunning Stunt
05-22-09, 02:19
“Let us make it clear to the world: Filipino women are not for sale. Not even for sale to Hollywood actors,” she said.
:confused::rolleyes:
Alec won't be spending his next vacation in AC, then:D.
Why The Fuck Would You Want To Own A Car In Manila?
Bumper to bumper traffic 18 hours of the day. Suicidal drivers. Car insurance….not important. Rules of the road followed as much North Korea follows the UN demands. So why the fuck do you want to own a car in Manila?
A Few Thoughts:
Finances 101:
I live far from the action. (Makati, Ermita, Quezon City) I travel around Manila a lot. The various malls, Go-go's and sometimes to meet my Realtor to check on my real-estate holdings or possible business ventures. I have a driver I always use and he is pretty much available daily. Let’s say each trip on average cost about 350 PHP that’s at the current exchange rate is $7.29… $14.58 roundtrip. You do this 3 or 4 times a day that’s $43.74 a day, by a week $218.70 and $874.80 a month spent just on transportation. Now $43 is not a lot of money. But that is money that could still be in your pocket.
Convenience:
Not a lot of public transportation where I live as it is considered an upscale area so all the other people own cars. (Sometime four cars as one of my neighbor’s lol). When I am out and about (looking for that next barfine lol) the taxis always complain that they will not get a return fare when I request to be taken home. Also Manila taxi drivers are famous for trying to get a tip or up the fare, or not use the meter etc. Its gets on your nerve after awhile. Also never know when you will get into the taxi of a psychopath. http://www.gmanews.tv/story/137292/Taxi-driver-in-dragging-incident-embroiled-in-previous-raps--NBI
If my driver is not available (coming from home) I have to walk like 10 American city blocks just to hope I might catch a taxi returning to the party areas. What if there is emergency and you need to get to the hospital? Some shit to think about.
The Process:
Scouring The Net:
Hit the internet to see what was available. I was not looking to buy anything luxurious or expensive. Wasn’t looking for a hooptie also. First website I checked was http://www.philmotors.com/ lot of cars and good deals the website is not updated frequently one car I saw advertised the seller said he had sold it over year ago :eek: Second website http://www.sulit.com.ph/ this website sales every-damn thing. Hell you might can find some bargirls here. (I didn’t look lol.) They have some nice deals on cars and it is updated frequently.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hooptie
Human Resources:
Called a couple of local dealerships and most did not have used cars to offer so I left my number with them if they heard something. Just like I was bombarded with offers for this and that. Settled on a midsized Sedan with low-mileage, late 2000s for $7000 flat. Paid cash. A brand new car of this model runs about 799,000PHP or $16,645
The Short Arm Of The Law:
I would advise buying from some people you can locate like I did from a local dealer. While didn't buy from a local dealership I bought from local car salesman so if something came up like the car was “hot” as they say here or stolen you can locate the seller. I bought from a first owner who had all the service records. I also hired an independent mechanic from a franchised car maintenance shop to perform spot checks. After you are sold the car there is the registration process.
Registration:
You have to go down to the PNP (Philippine National Police) motor vehicle place or locally called LTO (Land Transportation Office) located in Quezon City. So they can check all the vend numbers to make sure it is not “hot” and make records and transfer the new property into your name.
After that you have to get your stickers for your respective subdivision where you live (if you live in one)so they will not take you your license or ID from you when you enter as all upscale subdivisions have strictly controlled access points to keep out the riffraff.
Insurance:
When some out of control Jeepney/Trike driver slams into your bucket of bolts or you had one too many on Burgos (let’s hope this is not the case) you need insurance to get this fixed. Unless you want to get sued by the Squatter dwelling family looking to cash in on your foreign ass. I would recommend http://www.insurphil.com/ they are the best in the business here.
FreebieFan
06-22-09, 01:03
Why The Fuck Would You Want To Own A Car In Manila?
Bumper to bumper traffic 18 hours of the day. Suicidal drivers. Car insurance….not important. Rules of the road followed as much North Korea follows the UN demands. So why the fuck do you want to own a car in Manila?
A Few Thoughts:
Finances 101:
I live far from the action. (Makati, Ermita, Quezon City) I travel around Manila a lot. The various malls, Go-go's and sometimes to meet my Realtor to check on my real-estate holdings or possible business ventures. I have a driver I always use and he is pretty much available daily. Let’s say each trip on average cost about 350 PHP that’s at the current exchange rate is $7.29… $14.58 roundtrip. You do this 3 or 4 times a day that’s $43.74 a day, by a week $218.70 and $874.80 a month spent just on transportation. Now $43 is not a lot of money. But that is money that could still be in your pocket.
Convenience:
Not a lot of public transportation where I live as it is considered an upscale area so all the other people own cars. (Sometime four cars as one of my neighbor’s lol). When I am out and about (looking for that next barfine lol) the taxis always complain that they will not get a return fare when I request to be taken home. Also Manila taxi drivers are famous for trying to get a tip or up the fare, or not use the meter etc. Its gets on your nerve after awhile. Also never know when you will get into the taxi of a psychopath. http://www.gmanews.tv/story/137292/Taxi-driver-in-dragging-incident-embroiled-in-previous-raps--NBI
If my driver is not available (coming from home) I have to walk like 10 American city blocks just to hope I might catch a taxi returning to the party areas. What if there is emergency and you need to get to the hospital? Some shit to think about.
The Process:
Scouring The Net:
Hit the internet to see what was available. I was not looking to buy anything luxurious or expensive. Wasn’t looking for a hooptie also. First website I checked was http://www.philmotors.com/ lot of cars and good deals the website is not updated frequently one car I saw advertised the seller said he had sold it over year ago :eek: Second website http://www.sulit.com.ph/ this website sales every-damn thing. Hell you might can find some bargirls here. (I didn’t look lol.) They have some nice deals on cars and it is updated frequently.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hooptie
Human Resources:
Called a couple of local dealerships and most did not have used cars to offer so I left my number with them if they heard something. Just like I was bombarded with offers for this and that. Settled on a midsized Sedan with low-mileage, late 2000s for $7000 flat. Paid cash. A brand new car of this model runs about 799,000PHP or $16,645
The Short Arm Of The Law:
Registration:
You have to go down to the PNP (Philippine National Police) motor vehicle place or locally called LTO (Land Transportation Office) located in Quezon City. So they can check all the vend numbers to make sure it is not “hot” and make records and transfer the new property into your name.
After that you have to get your stickers for your respective subdivision where you live (if you live in one)so they will not take you your license or ID from you when you enter as all upscale subdivisions have strictly controlled access points to keep out the riffraff.
Insurance:
When some out of control Jeepney/Trike driver slams into your bucket of bolts or you had one too many on Burgos (let’s hope this is not the case) you need insurance to get this fixed. Unless you want to get sued by the Squatter dwelling family looking to cash in on your foreign ass. I would recommend http://www.insurphil.com/ they are the best in the business here.Look forward to seeing your car next to mine as we negotiate EDSA in the direction of Burgos or Sogo.... !
BTW.. new cars carry a 3 yr warranty or first 50,000kms. And Honda and Toyota have very high resale values. Had mine for 2.5 years and one smal dent from a jeepney but thats all.
I have several friends who do. Mind you, they don't drive their cars. They pay people to drive for them.
One in particular has land holdings outside of Manila. The driver and the maid sit up front.
They stop somewhere for lunch and the driver watches the car. When lunch is about to finish a quick text to the driver gets the AC turned on in advance. No need to walk out to flag a taxi in the pouring rain or blast furnace heat.
If you are an expat living in MNL and hanging in MNL, then maybe Illogic has a point. I personally would not want to ever drive in MNL.
X
Why The Fuck Would You Want To Own A Car In Manila?
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I have several friends who do. Mind you, they don't drive their cars. They pay people to drive for them.
One in particular has land holdings outside of Manila. The driver and the maid sit up front.
They stop somewhere for lunch and the driver watches the car. When lunch is about to finish a quick text to the driver gets the AC turned on in advance. No need to walk out to flag a taxi in the pouring rain or blast furnace heat.
If you are an expat living in MNL and hanging in MNL, then maybe Illogic has a point. I personally would not want to ever drive in MNL.
X
I have private security and a driver. The problem is when my driver is not available or I want to go to red light districts. Filipinos gossip. Don't want my whole neighborhood to know I am hanging out at *****houses every night. For the two week tourist this is OK.
FreebieFan
06-23-09, 00:48
I have several friends who do. Mind you, they don't drive their cars. They pay people to drive for them.
One in particular has land holdings outside of Manila. The driver and the maid sit up front.
They stop somewhere for lunch and the driver watches the car. When lunch is about to finish a quick text to the driver gets the AC turned on in advance. No need to walk out to flag a taxi in the pouring rain or blast furnace heat.
If you are an expat living in MNL and hanging in MNL, then maybe Illogic has a point. I personally would not want to ever drive in MNL.
XThe point being that we don't want others knowing our business. Where we go or with who. Drivers maid, security all have lots to say and too little to do.
If you have any long term association with Phils, then having a car with driver is fine for the social events etc and so much easier on the parking, but if your a monger, and like to hunt far and wide driving your own car is the way to go. Relatively painless, except for traffic, and free to come and go as you please.
The topic was about owning a car in Manila, what does that have to do with a "two-week tourist"?
Anyway, thanks for the detailed info about owning a car. I'm sure it was helpful to some of your readers.
X
I have private security and a driver. The problem is when my driver is not available or I want to go to red light districts. Filipinos gossip. Don't want my whole neighborhood to know I am hanging out at *****houses every night. For the two week tourist this is OK.
GoodEnough
06-23-09, 11:29
The topic was about owning a car in Manila, what does that have to do with a "two-week tourist"?
Anyway, thanks for the detailed info about owning a car. I'm sure it was helpful to some of your readers.
X
I understand completely Illogic's point. It's a total pain in the ass to drive yourself in Manila. The congestion, the lack of road skills, the lack of parking and the general insanity of the drivers make for an ennervating experience. However, offsetting the negative is the fact that drivers will talk, and Filipinos love chismis more than breathing, so there are times you have no choice. For the "two week tourist," who know no one and cannot be affected one way or the other by chismis (rumor mongering), it makes no difference what the drivers think or say.
Of course the other problem--particularly in smaller places like Davao--is that your car can become immediately recognizable. But that's a subject for another post.
GE
GE, point taken, but a two-week tourist doesn't consider buying a car, nor hiring a driver.
You're a smart guy, much smarter than me. So I've gone back and read the posts twice. I can see that Illogic and FreebieFan have provided some good information on the subject. Nevertheless, I don't see how "two-week tourist" has anything to do with buying a car.
If Illogic was simply saying a "two-week tourist" doesn't have to worry about driver's who talk, I can understand how a brain fart would lead from point A to point F. I'd like to hear him say that himself.
brain fart: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=brain+fart
Dela Cruz, I've asked you twice and you've never said yes or no. JS, other members have already suggested you are a previously banned deviant. You didn't object.
X
I understand completely Illogic's point. It's a total pain in the ass to drive yourself in Manila. The congestion, the lack of road skills, the lack of parking and the general insanity of the drivers make for an ennervating experience. However, offsetting the negative is the fact that drivers will talk, and Filipinos love chismis more than breathing, so there are times you have no choice. For the "two week tourist," who know no one and cannot be affected one way or the other by chismis (rumor mongering), it makes no difference what the drivers think or say.
Of course the other problem--particularly in smaller places like Davao--is that your car can become immediately recognizable. But that's a subject for another post.
GE
Puerto La Cruz
06-23-09, 13:26
I was Slippery on the DR board. I changed to PLC several years ago and have posted exclusively as PLC since then.
…..and balls of fire are what it takes to operate a motor vehicle in manila. today was my first day out on road with locals. drove from my village. joy rode around makati and the greenbelt etc. it wasn’t my first time driving in a foreign country that honor goes to pattaya, thailand.
few things observed:
traffic lights:
in most parts of town traffic lights are nonexistent. during the day there are traffic cops directing traffic. at night every men, women and child for themself.
road lines:
barely visible and in some places nonexistent. so you just have to drive all over the road not knowing where the fuck you suppose to be lol.
other cars:
jeepneys letting out so much black smoke looks like a james bond smoke screen. trikes whipping by you every which way. on both sides of car in the wrong lanes.
other than that it wasn’t as bad as i thought it was going to be….
ge, point taken, but a two-week tourist doesn't consider buying a car, nor hiring a driver.
you're a smart guy, much smarter than me. so i've gone back and read the posts twice. i can see that illogic and freebiefan have provided some good information on the subject. nevertheless, i don't see how "two-week tourist" has anything to do with buying a car.
if illogic was simply saying a "two-week tourist" doesn't have to worry about driver's who talk, i can understand how a brain fart would lead from point a to point f. i'd like to hear him say that himself.
brain fart: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=brain+fart
x
x i was not taking a shot at you. peep game.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=peep+game
i know one of my neighbors is gay. i know one neighbors is having problems with his mortgage and the list goes on on.
i don’t talk to any of my neighbors at all. i mean zilch. how do i know all this shit? because of my driver. ex if he tells me all this shit about other people in the village of course he is gossiping about me also but i don’t give him anything to gossip about.
when i want to go out i always have him just drop me in makati then i make my way from there. my neighbors are extremely nosy. they all want to know who the token black guy is and what he does and what he is doing.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=token+black+guy
i am simply saying a tourist doesn’t have to worry about shit like going to *****houses and having it reported around the neighborhood and shaming yourself and others...
ThatGuy865
06-24-09, 01:58
[QUOTE=Illogic]…..and balls of fire are what it takes to operate a motor vehicle in Manila. Today was my first day out on road with locals. Drove from my village. Joy rode around Makati and the Greenbelt etc. It wasn’t my first time driving in a foreign country that honor goes to Pattaya, Thailand.
Few Things Observed:
Traffic lights:
In most parts of town traffic lights are nonexistent. During the day there are traffic cops directing traffic. At night every men, women and child for themself.
Road Lines:
Barely visible and in some places nonexistent. So you just have to drive all over the road not knowing where the fuck you suppose to be LOL.
Other Cars:
Jeepneys letting out so much black smoke looks like a James Bond Smoke screen. Trikes whipping by you every which way. On both sides of car in the wrong lanes.
Other than that it wasn’t as bad as I thought it was going to be…./QUOTE]Illogic,
I know what you mean. I use to rent a motocycle when I was there (I've been riding for 20yrs in the USA No problem). I did this for about 5 years each year thats til I got side swiped by a Trike. The police came fortunately for me to my surprise a jeepney driver witness backed me up and not the trike driver. Who wanted me to pay for his trike damage. The trikes are the worst, but the whole driving scene there is insane. There is no rule that can't/won't be broken by most drivers.
FreebieFan
06-24-09, 03:43
…..and balls of fire are what it takes to operate a motor vehicle in Manila. Today was my first day out on road with locals. Drove from my village. Joy rode around Makati and the Greenbelt etc.
I am simply saying a tourist doesn’t have to worry about shit like going to *****houses and having it reported around the neighborhood and shaming yourself and others...Congrats Man. On the postive side, there are no cameras at red lights, so no automatic fines etc.
however you have yet to encounter the joys of dealing with the MMDA. The blue clad parasites that inhabit every inch of EDSA to spot the slightest infraction.
Theres a grat term that they put on signboards called " No Swerving."
Now in my dictionary and maybe in Urban Dictionary too that means no voilent manoevres from one lane to another. In Phuils it means catiously checking traffic flow clearly indicating then changing lanes.
MMDA love to pull you over for "swerving" all the time.
Of course you can pay them off..thats easy but I will wait till you have your first encounter with them then tell you how I play the " lets irritate the MMDA cockroach " game.
LoveAsianWhores
06-26-09, 15:38
Like all crazy things in the Philippines, you get used to it. After having a car here for a few years, I could not live without it. The two biggest problems are traffic and parking (but a non issue for me now that I live in Subic). A taxi doesn't need to park, and they often know shortcuts, so a taxi is sometimes preferable to driving in Manila, even if you own a car. A couple of points for those new to driving.
1) Insurance may be useful if money is tight, otherwise, pointless. No one is going to sue you, regardless of fault, if you have a nice car. And in a country with a barely functioning legal and regulatory system, getting money out an insurance company would be difficult at best. The best attorney always wins here, and if you can afford a good one, they will know it by your car.
2) Get a local driver license. Easy to get as long as you have a valid license from your home country. You do not need to be a resident. My fixer got the whole thing done for 4, 000 pesos. This included VIP treatment by LTO staff (no lines, getting it processed in a staff-only area, a 'special' drug test for pot smokers like myself, and I was in and out of the office with my license in hand in about an hour).
3) An international driver license is a good thing to have, with or without a local license. I happen to have a source for them and I can get them for about $3. When they are accepted (Every time except once), I just have them keep it if I don't think they deserve a 300P bribe.
4) Lots of scams regarding buying, selling, and repairing of cars, so be careful where you go. I've driven here a couple of years and know how things work, and I still got taken by local place when I needed some work done. I thought I was going to a Nissan dealer, but they actually were not connected with Nissan at all. Just because they have a showroom, a big NISSAN sign outside, and look just like a Nissan dealer, it doesn't mean they are. Check online before taking your car anywhere.
5) You will not save ANYTHING by owning your own car. Taxi drivers drive cheap cars that are run into the ground, are repaired only when absolutely necessary, and are a happy to end up with 500 peso a day profit. Your expenses for owning a car, including depreciation of the car, will cost you much more then paying taxis.
6) Get a navigation system. I got a Garmin unit from the US for about $130, and you can download a pretty good nationwide map for free. It has gotten me out of jams many times.
6) Most importantly, it helps with getting more out of the girls. I certainly noticed that general attitudes changed when a bargirl got in my car. If you are prepared to lie to them and say you don't have a girlfriend, they will fuck you like there is no tomorrow just on the off chance that you may be telling the truth. And at the end of the day, that's the only thing that really matters anyway.
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GoodEnough
06-27-09, 00:15
I've had my own transport almost from the day I arrived about six years ago, first a bike, then both a bike and a car and now just a car. I agree with LAW; once you adapt to the general insanity of driving here, there's no substitute for being able to go wherever you want to go whenever you want to go. I don't generally agree about the insurance. It's important to have it and the companies do pay off, at least according to friends of mine who have collected without hassle from the insurance companies. Also, coverage is cheap, and having coverage is required by law though I know that "law" here doesn't exactly have the same meaning as it does elsewhere.
I also agree that it's critical to find a garage that's trustworthy. It's taken me quite a while, but I finally found one that I semi-trust here in Davao and I give them all my business for both cars. There really are some decent mechanics here who can fix almost anything. I've noticed that there's a welcome tendency here to repair rather than to replace. For example, about 6 or 8 months ago, my alternator stopped working. I was prepared to replace it as I doubtless would have had to do in the US or France. However, the mechanic here asked me why I should go to the expense of replacing it when he could have it rewound for a couple of hundred pesos? He did, and the equipment works just fine. The bottom line is that it's less expensive to keep a car running well here, or at least here in Davao, than it is in the US or Europe, though LAW is correct that having a car is much more expensive than taking alternative forms of transportation.
Regarding X Man, I've had the pleasure of his company a few times, and find the description posted (hopefully in fun) about him to be wholly inaccurate. He's great company. He's an educated, intelligent and interesting person, and he's welcome here in my home any time.
GE
LoveAsianWhores
07-01-09, 12:21
I don't generally agree about the insurance. It's important to have it and the companies do pay off, at least according to friends of mine who have collected without hassle from the insurance companies. Also, coverage is cheap, and having coverage is required by law though I know that "law" here doesn't exactly have the same meaning as it does elsewhere.
GEThere is a type of insurance that is required by law. You need it to register your car I think (my secretary always includes an insurance policy when she gives me my yearly registration). But it costs something ridiculous like a 1, 000P a year, so I certainly see no reason to not get that. But I don't think you need any type of coverage to protect your entire assets, or your car, but then again, I tend to be very anti-insurance in general. Body work is one of those things that is extreemly cheap when compared to the west (as long as you get a regular Japanese or Korean car).
But here is a statistic that will shock a lot of you. According to NCRPO (National Capital Region Police Office), there are only about 3 reported car thefts a day in Metro Manila. But according to the LAPD, there are about 100 car thefts a day in Los Angeles (where I am from). While Manila is much larger than Los Angeles, obviously, Manila doesn't have as many cars. But with a population 5 times larger, you would think that there should be at least 5 times as many car thiefs, especially with such a hugh underclass. For whatever reason, car theft in this country is nowhere near the problem it is in the west.
Fortunately, girls with no money turn to prostitution, but the Filipino men just turn to laziness. I know exactly what they think: "let my sister go sell her body, I'm too drunk to get my ass up and steal a car"
Kavorka341
07-09-09, 15:52
I'm looking to buy a motorcycle in my gf province, as I visit quite regularly.
I will be paying for it myself, and will leave it with her for her family to use while I am away. I have no problem doing this.
I've been told to expect to pay around P55000 for a new one, does this sound right ?
Also, if anyone could fill me in on any of the technicalities.. paperwork required etc...
I remember reading a post about this somewhere but have searched around and can't seem to find anything.
Cheers
I'm looking to buy a motorcycle in my gf province, as I visit quite regularly.
I will be paying for it myself, and will leave it with her for her family to use while I am away. I have no problem doing this.
I've been told to expect to pay around P55000 for a new one, does this sound right ?
Also, if anyone could fill me in on any of the technicalities.. paperwork required etc...
I remember reading a post about this somewhere but have searched around and can't seem to find anything.
CheersIn Luzon it's around 55-60 K pesos in the southern Islands it's about 10K more expensive , In Negros I paid 68K for Kawasaki 175 and 60 K for Honda 155.
ThatGuy865
07-10-09, 02:37
But here is a statistic that will shock a lot of you. According to NCRPO (National Capital Region Police Office), there are only about 3 reported car thefts a day in Metro Manila. But according to the LAPD, there are about 100 car thefts a day in Los Angeles (where I am from). While Manila is much larger than Los Angeles, obviously, Manila doesn't have as many cars. But with a population 5 times larger, you would think that there should be at least 5 times as many car thiefs, especially with such a hugh underclass. For whatever reason, car theft in this country is nowhere near the problem it is in the west.
Fortunately, girls with no money turn to prostitution, but the Filipino men just turn to laziness. I know exactly what they think: "let my sister go sell her body, I'm too drunk to get my ass up and steal a car"It has more to do with the poverty. They don't have any where to hide a car (no garage) so it would easier to catch the thief. The majority of people are too poor to buy a car so the turnover would be slower. So they have to hold on to them much longer, which means you have more time you can get caught. The chop shops wouldn't need but a few.
Of the few people who can afford a car. The majority would not buy a stolen car. So you have fewer buyers.
Where in america. Everyone can afford a car for the most part. From kids in High school to old people. How many Filipino's in school (even college) do you think own a car.
I'm looking to buy a motorcycle in my gf province, as I visit quite regularly.
I will be paying for it myself, and will leave it with her for her family to use while I am away. I have no problem doing this.
I've been told to expect to pay around P55000 for a new one, does this sound right ?
Also, if anyone could fill me in on any of the technicalities.. paperwork required etc...
I remember reading a post about this somewhere but have searched around and can't seem to find anything.
Cheers
Yeah, the price is about right for a brand new small "rice grinder" MC. I've seen them on sale in the big Dept stores and dealers for as low as P46,000 on up to P75,000 and more for a tricked out model. expect to pay a few pesos more in the province coz they have to have the bikes shipped in.
They have all sorts of payment plans, but if you buy one cash outright the dealer will usually do the paperwork for you and have it clear thru LTO much faster than your GF can, just have them do it up in her name, not yours, easier. Some of them also offer insurance. You have to make sure you got a Motorcycle license in the Phils, that is one thing the cops check on.
Bill Buxton
07-11-09, 02:52
It has more to do with the poverty. They don't have any where to hide a car (no garage) so it would easier to catch the thief. The majority of people are too poor to buy a car so the turnover would be slower. So they have to hold on to them much longer, which means you have more time you can get caught. The chop shops wouldn't need but a few.
Of the few people who can afford a car. The majority would not buy a stolen car. So you have fewer buyers.
Where in america. Everyone can afford a car for the most part. From kids in High school to old people. How many Filipino's in school (even college) do you think own a car.Own a car? Most here don't even own a bicycle. Also, some could buy one but don't know how to ride one.
That's a fact.
W. L. Buxton.
Yellow Fever #2
07-11-09, 11:33
Own a car? Most here don't even own a bicycle. Also, some could buy one but don't know how to ride one.
That's a fact.
W. L. Buxton.
I had an 8 month relationship with a nearly 40yo PI WG that I met in Shanghai.
We lived together in China and would use my electric bike for our local transportation.
She loved the biking as my passenger but was too afraid to try herself.
On a trip to Taal Lake we rode horses for an hour (250P, her first time doing that) and then she spent more than an hour trying to learn how to ride a bike on a 50p/hr rental bike. I have lots of comedy value video from her attempts.
Another PI girl I met in Shenzhen and took back to my apartment 'knew' how to ride a bike and tried my electric bike. She drove about 20m, turned around and drove back looking at me with a very happy and proud look but she did not notice another electric bike ready to cross her path which made for 2 wiped out bicycle riders. Luckily neither of them were hurt. Total distance covered less than 50m and maybe 30 seconds of travel time before her first accident. It's really a shame.
Lots of people in the PI have never ridden a bike. It's too bad because they end up spending a lot more money and more time using trikes and jeeps to get around local areas for simple shopping. An electric bike would be ideal for trips up to 5km from home for groceries etc. It's fast convenient and cheap to operate and should be cheap to purchase.
Don't overestimate this country, it is way too backward.
GoodEnough
07-11-09, 15:59
Your conclusion about the potential efficacy of electric bikes here is sound, but here's the problem. Filipinos drive anything with wheels the same way as they walk; stopping and starting whenever and wherever they please, darting this way and that, oblivious to anything around them; turning left from the right and right from the left; obeying every impulse without intervention on the part of the cerebral cortex. Electric bikes would add just another slow-moving traffic hazard to the tricycles, jeepneys, small motorcycles and bicycles that already make the streets among the most hazardous in Asia.
GE
Cunning Stunt
07-11-09, 17:45
I once made the mistake of trying to teach a Filipina to ride a pushbike. It was at one and the same time, the most frustrating and funny experience of my life as she was totally lacking a sense of balance and so we both ended up with multiple contusions and totally exhausted from giggle fits.
Have enough to contend with on the sidewalks with stop-start pedestrians and kamikaze motorcyclist without adding out of control electric cyclists to the deadly mix.
FreebieFan
07-13-09, 03:32
I once made the mistake of trying to teach a Filipina to ride a pushbike. It was at one and the same time, the most frustrating and funny experience of my life as she was totally lacking a sense of balance and so we both ended up with multiple contusions and totally exhausted from giggle fits.
Have enough to contend with on the sidewalks with stop-start pedestrians and kamikaze motorcyclist without adding out of control electric cyclists to the deadly mix.Nice one! Now try teaching them how to go round a roundabout. In Fort Bonifacio, theres a roundabout near the entrance to US/Philipino Cemetary. You should see this. Some go the right way, some go the wrong way, some take the shortest possible route ignoring oncoming traffic.
I thought roundabouts were easy to navigate untill I saw the mayhem this simple circulat road system could produce.
Yellow Fever #2
07-13-09, 05:41
Your conclusion about the potential efficacy of electric bikes here is sound, but here's the problem. Filipinos drive anything with wheels the same way as they walk; stopping and starting whenever and wherever they please, darting this way and that, oblivious to anything around them; turning left from the right and right from the left; obeying every impulse without intervention on the part of the cerebral cortex. Electric bikes would add just another slow-moving traffic hazard to the tricycles, jeepneys, small motorcycles and bicycles that already make the streets among the most hazardous in Asia.
GE
This country has no hope. I would like to come back for a short mongering visit in 2 weeks from China but I will live by the 3 F rules.
I never mongered in PI but I have stayed in Manila (Paranaque) for about 3 weeks over 2 trips to visit my former PI GF.
I'm looking forward to LA Cafe and the other spots in this city. Theres really nothing else to do there.
Any Manila based mongers wish to show me the sights?
Yellow Fever
Member #4167
08-17-09, 16:32
Hi everyone,
Because I am retired, I am considering moving to the Phillipines, I wanted to pick the brains of those who already live in the PI:
I have researched costs of apartments & food - so I can afford to live in the PI - if I live simply.
MY goals are
#1 low crime - good safety
#2 good ocean fishing (plenty of fish)
#3 a chance to pick up an occasional livein GF
I would prefer to live on the coast - where fishing is good.
What is PI like for crime/safety outside of the major cities?
Are there any places in PI where there is good saltwater fishing from shore? I can't afford deepsea charters, so maybe some type of fishing that can be done with a small skiff. How is the fishing there? Are all the fish depleted like in the rest of the third world?
I know that for mongering, bigger, anonymous cities are best. While I can get all the mongering I want in Manilla or AC, I don't really need all that quantity or variety. What are the small towns like if I want to get a live-in girlfriend or do some occasional mongering? Is there a place where I can do some occasional mongering but still live on the coast?
Do you know of any cities I should visit in PI that might meet the above goals as a place for long term living?
A friend of mine is married to a Filipina and has kids. They started building a house here in Mindanao about two years ago. They hired on average 6 workers (by the day) and built the house themselves. Last weekend the gardener and mason got into a fight while drinking (1 am) at one of their friend's house and the mason stabbed the gardener in his kidney. The mason is in jail and the gardener is in the hospital. When the police asked the gardener if he wanted to press charges against the mason he replied, "No, he is my friend!"
Member #4167
08-18-09, 02:18
#1 low crime - good safety
#2 good ocean fishing (plenty of fish)
#3 a chance to pick up an occasional livein GF
Do you know of any cities I should visit in PI that might meet the above goals as a place for long term living?Addendum - I am interested in mid-sized cities or at least cities smaller than Manila like Bacolod, Baguio, Bauang, Boracay, Cagavan de Oro City, Cebu, Davao, Makati, Subic, Tugegarao City,
Angeles City / Manila is too crime ridden for me,
I know that for mongering, bigger, anonymous cities are best. While I can get all the mongering I want in Manilla or AC, I don't really need all that quantity or variety. What are the small towns like if I want to get a live-in girlfriend or do some occasional mongering? Is there a place where I can do some occasional mongering but still live on the coast?
Do you know of any cities I should visit in PI that might meet the above goals as a place for long term living?
In the small towns, you can be a monger. Or you can have the occasional live-in gf. It will be hard to do both thanks to the bamboo telegraph. There are no secrets in the boonies so the best advice here is save the mongering for your trips to the big city when you can go there without the gf.
GoodEnough
08-18-09, 08:59
In the small towns, you can be a monger. Or you can have the occasional live-in gf. It will be hard to do both thanks to the bamboo telegraph. There are no secrets in the boonies so the best advice here is save the mongering for your trips to the big city when you can go there without the gf.
Maybe this is correct, but in the smaller cities--like CDO or Butuan--I imagine that you can have both. Of course there are no real beaches actually in the city of CDO, so you will have to take a short ride.
GE
Member #4167
08-18-09, 12:28
In the small towns, you can be a monger. Or you can have the occasional live-in gf. It will be hard to do both thanks to the bamboo telegraph. There are no secrets in the boonies so the best advice here is save the mongering for your trips to the big city when you can go there without the gf.Thanks, Finrod -
In other places I have been, in the provinces, the locals shame any girl who sleeps with a foreigner, even as a live-in GF. Does the same situation occur in the small cities like Bacolod, Baguio, Bauang, Boracay, Cagavan de Oro City ? Or would I need a medium sized city like Cebu, Davao, Makati, Subic ?
Member #4167
08-18-09, 12:30
Maybe this is correct, but in the smaller cities--like CDO or Butuan--I imagine that you can have both. Of course there are no real beaches actually in the city of CDO, so you will have to take a short ride.
GEHow is the Crime/Safety
Cebu, Davao, Makati, Subic?
How about smaller cities like Bacolod, Baguio, Bauang, Boracay, Cagavan de Oro City?
hi everyone,
because i am retired, i am considering moving to the phillipines, i wanted to pick the brains of those who already live in the pi:
i have researched costs of apartments & food - so i can afford to live in the pi - if i live simply.g'day wb, you sent this same post to me in a pm so i will reply with a few points here for the benefit of other lurkers.
my goals are
#1 low crime - good safetyits not especially dangerous here providing you keep a low profile & act sensibly. stay away from areas in the extreme north & extreme south west of the country. you said you had mongered in nicaragua, shit i'd be bloody worried hanging in nicaragua..
#2 good ocean fishing (plenty of fish)the country has about 75% of the population living in poverty, they depend on fish for sustenance, so many areas are heavily fished. sadly dynamite fishing still goes on wrecking reefs & destroying the fisheries in the process. in the typhoon season fishing is lousy (need another hobby during this time of year). my bias is to places served by, or close by to, jet airports. in times of health issues this can be important although god willing i am in your age group with no health problems. cebu, dipolog or davao are good places to look at.
#3 a chance to pick up an occasional livein gfyour biggest problem will be not getting stuck with ltr gf's hehe ;) seriously though, in the bigger cities you have your cake & eat it but further away you go from cities the more your activities will be curtailed by the bamboo grapevine. manila is a place for playboys, just about anywhere else you will find it hard to conceal your activities for long. having said that i know an expat in dipolog who has 3 wives' living under his roof & all pregnant to him. he gets away with this because he is rich & supports all 3 families. probably best to start out being honest that you intend to butterfly occasionally. plenty of chicks will still accept being a ltr gf in the hope of hooking you but there will major problems with jealousy nevertheless.. these little girls can really go tampo when they are of a mind to ;)
cheers mate
av
tampo: http://www.filipinawives.com/Tampo.htm
These little girls can really go tampo when they are of a mind to ;)
Cheers mate
AV
FreebieFan
08-19-09, 04:12
I have a student friend, well she became the standard single mom then decided wanted to study, so shes a little older than most of her 18-20 year old student friends.
We were chatting recently and she told me that her sis (who is a great looking virgin) had been in a motel watching her girlfriend get laid.
I asked her if being watcched was something that interested her.
She didn't really answer and danced around the subject (which I took to mean either she was embarassed or interested but didn't want to declare her interest.)
Today she tells me shes been thinking about this and would like to "help" one of her shy and innocent friends learn about sex. And that she will invite them when we next go to a motel.
I'm guessing it can only be good. The "watcher" might get hot and want to touch or get touched. Or run screaming into bathroom LOL.
Anyone had any experience of being watched?
I have a student friend, well she became the standard single mom then decided wanted to study, so shes a little older than most of her 18-20 year old student friends.
We were chatting recently and she told me that her sis (who is a great looking virgin) had been in a motel watching her girlfriend get laid.
I asked her if being watcched was something that interested her.
She didn't really answer and danced around the subject (which I took to mean either she was embarassed or interested but didn't want to declare her interest.)
Today she tells me shes been thinking about this and would like to "help" one of her shy and innocent friends learn about sex. And that she will invite them when we next go to a motel.
I'm guessing it can only be good. The "watcher" might get hot and want to touch or get touched. Or run screaming into bathroom LOL.
Anyone had any experience of being watched?Just make sure there 18 could be setup just heard of nightmare story about 35 year old in cebu 5 days in jail
GoodEnough
08-19-09, 23:13
How is the Crime/Safety
Cebu, Davao, Makati, Subic?
How about smaller cities like Bacolod, Baguio, Bauang, Boracay, Cagavan de Oro City?
Davao is probably the safest place I have ever lived, and I've lived and worked in a lot of places. There's very little in the way of street crime and it's very rare for a foreigner to have any problems here. CDO is much the same, though I do not know it as well as I do Davao. I like CDO a great deal and I'm there often on business, but it's just too small for me to consider living there.
I do not think I would want to live in Manila. There's too much petty crime and the place is just too congested, polluted and, aside from some areas of Makati and the Fort, ugly. Also, there are no beaches in or even reasonably near to Manila, which lets out diving, fishing or just hanging out on sand.
GE
FreebieFan
08-20-09, 00:52
Just make sure there 18 could be setup just heard of nightmare story about 35 year old in cebu 5 days in jailAppreciate the "heads up" but I think I fall into the veteran category these days. 25 years of doing various deeds of derring do all around the Phils, and the worst that's happened to me was being questioned by a hungry cop as to why a lady had no trousers on in my car.
Not much danger of a set up..
Cunning Stunt
08-20-09, 01:48
Anyone had any experience of being watched?
When I used to step out on the wild side, slumming it down in the Chinatown/Carriedo area, I was once approached by two sisters looking for business. Both had been whacked around the head a bit with the ugly stick but had OK looking bodies. But it was the deal that intrigued me. The younger sister of about 20 was obviously the most streetwise and did all the talking. She reckoned her older sister, who was I guess about 24, was a virgin and because they were desperate for money, she would put out for only 2000 pesos. Yeah, I said, as if she would give up her cherry for such a paltry amount. But she was adamant that her sister was still a virgin and wished to lose it. The younger sister was thrown into the package for free!
Always a sucker for a 2 for 1 deal (must be the Filipino in me), I foolishly went for it and off we headed to the nearby Sogo. Wish I could say it was a great experience but it was just plain strange. First the virgin locked herself in the bathroom whilst I played with her younger sister. Then, when we enticed her out, I had the greatest difficulty extracting her towel which seemed to have become surgically welded to her body. Once we got the towel removed, she went into a fair approximation of rigor mortis. Then when I touched her pussy, she went ballistic and burst into tears. At this point I realized that the reason why she was a virgin (for I had decided that she surely was or a brilliant actress) was because she obviously had a screw or two loose and no guy would go near her! I was annoyed and about to sling them out on their arses when the worried younger sister renegotiated the deal. 500 pesos each and I could do anything I liked with her whilst her sister would watch and do a little strategical stroking.
I thought ‘in for a penny..’ and proceeded to give her the pounding of her life whilst the older girl massaged my back and buttocks whilst taking a vicarious interest in everything we did, particularly when I pulled out and gave her sister a nice sparkly new pearl necklace! Later I was able to entice the ‘virgin’, to join her sibling in some oral fun and managed to get a tentative BJ from her. But she left the room as ‘virgo intacta’ as she had entered it.
A rather weird experience but, despite the disappointment of not busting a bargain basement cherry, was nonetheless quite erotic:).
Soapy Smith
08-20-09, 04:53
Always a sucker for a 2 for 1 deal (must be the Filipino in me), I foolishly went for it and off we headed to the nearby Sogo. Wish I could say it was a great experience but it was just plain strange. First the virgin locked herself in the bathroom whilst I played with her younger sister. Then, when we enticed her out, I had the greatest difficulty extracting her towel which seemed to have become surgically welded to her body. Once we got the towel removed, she went into a fair approximation of rigor mortis. Then when I touched her pussy, she went ballistic and burst into tears. At this point I realized that the reason why she was a virgin (for I had decided that she surely was or a brilliant actress) was because she obviously had a screw or two loose and no guy would go near her! I was annoyed and about to sling them out on their arses when the worried younger sister renegotiated the deal. 500 pesos each and I could do anything I liked with her whilst her sister would watch and do a little strategical stroking.
I thought ‘in for a penny..’ and proceeded to give her the pounding of her life whilst the older girl massaged my back and buttocks whilst taking a vicarious interest in everything we did, particularly when I pulled out and gave her sister a nice sparkly new pearl necklace! Later I was able to entice the ‘virgin’, to join her sibling in some oral fun and managed to get a tentative BJ from her. But she left the room as ‘virgo intacta’ as she had entered it.
A rather weird experience but, despite the disappointment of not busting a bargain basement cherry, was nonetheless quite erotic:).
Great story CS! You can't make up stuff like this.
I'm eagerly awaiting FF's report on his experience.
FreebieFan
08-21-09, 03:37
Todays Inquirer shows an Israeli guy deported for "duping" girls into having sex with him, on pretense of getting them jobs overseas.
Bad bad foreigner.
Never mind the thousands of Pinays who scam guys on the pretense of offering foreigners sex and then either not delivering or just outright lying for money.
Anyways says the Israeli was also wanted for same thing in Tokyo so maybe he wasnt exactly a fine upstanding gent.
Member #4167
08-21-09, 15:03
davao is probably the safest place i have ever lived, and i've lived and worked in a lot of places. there's very little in the way of street crime and it's very rare for a foreigner to have any problems here. cdo is much the same, though i do not know it as well as i do davao. i like cdo a great deal and i'm there often on business, but it's just too small for me to consider living there.
gethanks ge,
i am extremely paranoid about scams and problems. this has made me a cautious monger.
1. pregnancy scam: i know how to avoid this one - no glove no love.
2. **** scam: i am a super-careful monger, i always verify a girls id to make sure she is 18+. girls in these countries always look older than there actual age. no id = no fickee-fickee (unless of course it is clear she is over 25). when mongering in other countries, i have turned down many a girl who looked over 18, but didn't have id. i'd rather be safe than sorry.
question: in the pi, what if she shows me a fake id or someone else's id ?
i always worry about this. can one still get into trouble?
3. [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) scam: reading in the forum, i hear rumors of claims of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). how serious is this scam?
are there any scams in pi i should i look out for?
Member #4167
08-21-09, 15:23
Todays Inquirer shows an Israeli guy deported for "duping" girls into having sex with him, on pretense of getting them jobs overseas. Bad bad foreigner.While the guy is a scumbag and ruins it for the rest of us, it's extreme and way overboard that they DEPORTED him for this.
Never mind the thousands of Pinays who scam guys on the pretense of offering foreigners sex and then either not delivering or just outright lying for money.This is the oldest scam in the book. To seduce a girl. You must invest money and time up-front. You buy gifts, dinners, drinks and spend inordinate amount of time. If you get sex as a result, they say you "got lucky."
It's not just money that they scam. In the other 3rd world countries I would invite a chica out for dinner/drinks, and she would invite her friends and family along. The pretense was "I don't know you, I don't want to go alone with you, I would feel better if there was a chaperone" Being an idiot, I agreed to let the tag alongs come. Then, they would all take advantage of the situation. What made it worse was that all these busy-bodies interfered with the courtship process as well. It is hard being romantic and intimate with a girl and put your moves on her, when you have half the family at the table. I got scammed like this a couple of times. And never got laid when this happened. My money wasted, my time wasted and my good will wasted.
I like pvssy. Yes, sometimes I get so focused on a piece that I forget common sense.
Yes, I was stupid, I have learned my lesson. From now on. No more. It is just me and her. If she insists on bringing others along. Then forget her.
Some may question my wisdom of seducing her, that I may waste my time and money with her. They say "just bring her back to your place and fvck her first, THEN buy her dinners." Can you do non-professional Pinays like that?
http://globalnation.inquirer.net/news/breakingnews/view/20090820-221206/Israeli-sex-con-artist-deported
Israeli sex con artist deported
By Tetch Torres
INQUIRER.net First Posted 16:47:00 08/20/2009
MANILA, Philippines—The Bureau of Immigration (BI) has deported an Israeli national who was arrested for luring several Filipino women to have sex with him in exchange for a better life abroad.
Daniel Berner, 37, left on board a Cathay Pacific flight bound for Hong Kong and Tokyo en route to Tel Aviv Wednesday.
The Israeli was kicked out of the country pursuant to a deportation order that the BI board of commissioners, chaired by Immigration chief Marcelino Libanan, issued against him last Tuesday.
He was arrested in an entrapment operation last July 29 inside a restaurant at the Greenbelt mall in Makati City by operatives of the bureau’s law enforcement division (LED).
The immigration chief said Berner will be included in the bureau’s watch list.
BI-LED acting assistant chief Epifanio Lambino Jr., Berner was arrested after one of his victims sought the help of a television , which in turn referred the case to the BI.
Lambino said the Israeli, who disguises himself as a Canadian, is also wanted in Japan, Great Britain, and Canada for engaging in similar schemes. He said a $50,000 reward for the Israeli’s arrest was already put up by authorities in Tokyo.
Todays Inquirer shows an Israeli guy deported for "duping" girls into having sex with him, on pretense of getting them jobs overseas.
Bad bad foreigner.
Never mind the thousands of Pinays who scam guys on the pretense of offering foreigners sex and then either not delivering or just outright lying for money.
Anyways says the Israeli was also wanted for same thing in Tokyo so maybe he wasnt exactly a fine upstanding gent.
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/metro/view/20090821-221369/Taguig-closes-Embassy-Bar-over-stab-case
Taguig closes Embassy Bar over stab case
By Abigail Kwok
INQUIRER.net
First Posted 15:03:00 08/21/2009
Filed Under: Restaurants & catering, Entertainment (general), Crime
MANILA, Philippines—Popular nightspot Embassy Bar has been ordered indefinitely closed by the local government of Taguig City, following a stabbing incident that occurred last Tuesday.
Taguig Business Permits and Licenses Office (BPLO) head Jeffe Minglana said that the closure of Embassy Supperclub and Embassy Cuisine at the Fort Strip will be in effect “until such time that a full investigation by the proper authorities has been conducted and completed.”
The closure came after a 34-year-old businessman, whose name is being withheld for security reasons, was seriously wounded after allegedly being stabbed by a certain Kilikan Jimenez inside the Embassy Cuisine past 1 a.m. on August 18.
City police chief Senior Superintendent Camilo Cascolan said that prior to the stabbing, the victim’s friend reportedly had an argument with Jimenez, and the victim meditated to pacify the two men.
But Jimenez, armed with a bladed weapon, allegedly stabbed the victim hitting him on the right side of his body and his back, Cascolan said.
Security personnel of Embassy brought the victim out of the establishment and immediately rushed him to the Makati Medical Center where he had to undergo operation.
Gilbey Gallart Loganera, investigating security officer of the Bonifacio Estate Services Corp. (BESC), citing accounts given by security men detailed in the area, said Embassy security personnel Gilbert Rempis, Joven Bantique, and Gilbert Battung allegedly helped Jimenez escape through the club’s back door amid the commotion.
Based on the complaint filed by the victim before the local government and police, Taguig Mayor Freddie Tiñga directed Minglana to serve a closure order on Embassy last Thursday.
The incident was “a clear violation of security arrangements forged by the club’s management with the city government,” Minglana said.
In June 2008, Embassy was ordered closed by the city government based on a complaint of a patron allegedly mauled by the club’s disc jockey.
Embassy was only allowed to reopen provided that they comply with the security measures set by the city government within and outside its premises.
LoveAsianWhores
08-22-09, 03:50
I thought 'in for a penny.' and proceeded to give her the pounding of her life whilst the older girl massaged my back and buttocks whilst taking a vicarious interest in everything we did, particularly when I pulled out and gave her sister a nice sparkly new pearl necklace! Later I was able to entice the 'virgin', to join her sibling in some oral fun and managed to get a tentative BJ from her. But she left the room as 'virgo intacta' as she had entered it.This is certainly a "Filipina thing". I know of no other places where it is common to pick up/barfine a virgin and her friend/sister/cousin and bang one of them while the virgin looks on, and marginally participates. I've done it several times over the years, and it is always weird, but strangely, usually quite erotic. And I also find that there is nothing quite as beautiful as a pearl necklace on a virgin. Especially when she is not participating adequately and the necklace is a surprise gift. For some reason, they are often really shocked when the receive the load. Like they are thinking "he would never come on face, oh my god! What is that white stuff coming out!"
LoveAsianWhores
08-22-09, 03:57
Hi everyone,
Because I am retired, I am considering moving to the Phillipines, I wanted to pick the brains of those who already live in the PI:
I have researched costs of apartments & food - so I can afford to live in the PI - if I live simply.
MY goals are
#1 low crime - good safety
#2 good ocean fishing (plenty of fish)
#3 a chance to pick up an occasional livein GF
I would prefer to live on the coast - where fishing is good.
What is PI like for crime/safety outside of the major cities?
Are there any places in PI where there is good saltwater fishing from shore? I can't afford deepsea charters, so maybe some type of fishing that can be done with a small skiff. How is the fishing there? Are all the fish depleted like in the rest of the third world?
I know that for mongering, bigger, anonymous cities are best. While I can get all the mongering I want in Manilla or AC, I don't really need all that quantity or variety. What are the small towns like if I want to get a live-in girlfriend or do some occasional mongering? Is there a place where I can do some occasional mongering but still live on the coast?
Do you know of any cities I should visit in PI that might meet the above goals as a place for long term living?I would say that Subic fits that bill exactly. Very safe, cheap (less expensive than manila, but more than the provinces), beaches and fishing everywhere, and plenty of girls (but that is true of most places here). But as an added benefit, there is large retired expat community, and it is also only a couple of hours drive to Manila.
thanks ge,
i am extremely paranoid about scams and problems. this has made me a cautious monger.
scams are a way of life in pi. there are the “big” ones and the little ones. the little ones you will either get use living with or go crazy.
1. pregnancy scam: i know how to avoid this one - no glove no love.
if she is not the "one" or you have not been here for a while do not get bogged down with a child.
2.**** scam: i am a super-careful monger, i always verify a girls id to make sure she is 18+. girls in these countries always look older than there actual age. no id = no fickee-fickee (unless of course it is clear she is over 25). when mongering in other countries, i have turned down many a girl who looked over 18, but didn't have id. i'd rather be safe than sorry.
one can not be to careful in pi as i found myself in a “taxi” recommended bar to my disbelief that had premature packages on the shelves. the **** scams are most prevalent in angeles i have yet to hear of this happening in the big cities but i would always be careful.
question: in the pi, what if she shows me a fake id or someone else's id ?
i always worry about this. can one still get into trouble?
well if this occurs you could always use the id as evidence.
3. [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) scam: reading in the forum, i hear rumors of claims of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). how serious is this scam?
women can do this anywhere. take the mike tyson/tupac cases in the states. you come to my hotel room in the middle of night what you expecting us to watch info commercials?
in reference to pi just google the subic [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) case.
living in pi is not without risk it's still though one of the most exciting and best locations in se asia.
FreebieFan
08-22-09, 05:18
Robbaf thanks for the fucking post. First it was dude getting his ass kicked last year then you had the “Alabang Boys” selling drugs in the fucking place and now this. For a upscale club such as Embassy it sure seems to attract a lot of low-class cats.You are spot on there. Maybe the low lifes are just masquerading as high lifes. Just shows that if you put a nice shirt and pants on a guy it doesn't mean much.
I've encountered many weird road rage type "drivers" when driving past place on many nights. Guess drugs has a lot to do with it. Plus the Filipino's total lack of ability to consume and handle more than 2 smbs peacefully.
Cunning Stunt
08-22-09, 07:30
This is certainly a "Filipina thing". I know of no other places where it is common to pick up/barfine a virgin and her friend/sister/cousin and bang one of them while the virgin looks on, and marginally participates. I've done it several times over the years, and it is always weird, but strangely, usually quite erotic. And I also find that there is nothing quite as beautiful as a pearl necklace on a virgin. Especially when she is not participating adequately and the necklace is a surprise gift. For some reason, they are often really shocked when the receive the load. Like they are thinking "he would never come on face, oh my god! What is that white stuff coming out!"
The sister thing has to be on every dedicated mongers ‘to-do’ list, if not already ticked off. There is something wickedly corrupt about banging one sister while her much more innocent sibling looks on in wonder and amazement. Only the mother/daughter combo (which I have also done) beats it for sheer willful depravity.
Just look at the expression on the face of the girl on the left. She was no virgin but was 19 and fresh off the farm and very innocent and inexperienced. Her sister Gina, although no particular looker, was a favourite of mine at the time because she never gave less than 110%, and was a genuine and enthusiastic 3-holer. She texted me one day to let me know that her younger sister was arriving from her province and would I like dibs on busting her p4p cherry? Why not?
She did not participate much but her presence added a delightful frisson to the proceedings, as I did things to her sister in front of her that had her catching flies with her mouth in astonishment! It also seemed to turn on Gina big time, as well. In the picture she was instructing younger sister in the fine old art of giving head and I was the willing volunteer. She later practiced on me, under instruction, and received her first taste of baby gravy to boot. Didn’t photographically capture the look on her face, which was a shame, as it was priceless:D.
Member #4167
08-22-09, 11:58
I would say that Subic fits that bill exactly. Very safe, cheap (less expensive than manila, but more than the provinces), beaches and fishing everywhere, and plenty of girls (but that is true of most places here). But as an added benefit, there is large retired expat community, and it is also only a couple of hours drive to Manila.Thanks LAW - I appreciate your expertise
Questions:
1. Does a "Large expat community" drive up the prices for pvssy?
2, Is the fishing any good in Subic ?
Thanks in advance
Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson
Questions:1. Does a "Large expat community" drive up the prices for pvssy?Locals pay 200PHP for a grind, does that give you a clue ;)
AV
The big boobed Pamela Andersons do not appeal to me. I like petite tiny women, the skinnier the better. Many latinas are heavy - big asses big tits.Ako rin!!!
Prostitutes are everywhere and - except in muslim countries they are easy to find. In many countries they are cheap. Non-pros are harder to find. I have narrowed down my retirement home to Cambodia, Vietnam and Phillipines.Non pro's are easy to find in Asia.
As you have been all over SEA, which is better for non-pro mongering? and for overall low cost of living and safety? Where can I go to be treated like a rock star by the local women? Cambodia, Vietnam or the Phillipines ?Places like Laos & Cambodia are cheaper for P4P yes. Overall PI offers the best mix of convenience & cheapness IMHO. Everybody has their likes & dislikes. Im sure there's lots of dirty old men living out their dotage disgracefully in Thailand who would have their own ideas WB.
Treated like a rock star? Since we are discussing this on the PI forum I'd say that you will enjoy the attentions of the women here very much ;)
I suggest you take a holiday to get a feel for the places mentioned.
Cheers!
AV
Member #4167
08-27-09, 09:39
Ako rin!!!
Non pro's are easy to find in Asia.
Places like Laos & Cambodia are cheaper for P4P yes. Overall PI offers the best mix of convenience & cheapness IMHO. Everybody has their likes & dislikes. Im sure there's lots of dirty old men living out their dotage disgracefully in Thailand who would have their own ideas WB.
Treated like a rock star? Since we are discussing this on the PI forum I'd say that you will enjoy the attentions of the women here very much ;)
I suggest you take a holiday to get a feel for the places mentioned.
Cheers!
AVI appreciate your well-thought reply - I am researching plane tix
Thanks AV
TurdyCurdyOne
09-05-09, 21:38
Apologies if this has been covered b4 but on a slow laptop now, cannot search.
Being an old fart, I am trying to find some way to cut down on visa runs when I get there and the really ripoff fees they charge every 2 months.
I might marry one of my friends there. Does anyone know the easiest way to get married and what bureaucratic hoops or bribes I will have to go through to accomplish it?
Read that you need several documents or that you can live in for a number of years and then automatically married? The women I know there are nice but are clueless mostly.
Also I will make an attempt, probably fruitless, to find an honest competent attorney there, so appreciate much any referrals if you know of anyone. I need to have a bank account there but am getting contrary information on whether or not one can be set up by a non-resident poriner.
I realize this is a bit off topic, but I see more honest replies here than on other sites, so thought I'd ask. Thanks for any helpful information.
GoodEnough
09-07-09, 12:28
Marriage seems like a pretty drastic step to take just for the sake of a visa; especially in a country without divorce. One alternative might be to get a retirement visa. I think the age is now 55 and the amount that must be deposited in a local bank is only $10,000, on which you will earn interest.
GE
your biggest problem will be not getting stuck with ltr gf's hehe ;) seriously though, in the bigger cities you have your cake & eat it but further away you go from cities the more your activities will be curtailed by the bamboo grapevine. manila is a place for playboys, just about anywhere else you will find it hard to conceal your activities for long. having said that i know an expat in dipolog who has 3 wives' living under his roof & all pregnant to him. he gets away with this because he is rich & supports all 3 families. probably best to start out being honest that you intend to butterfly occasionally. plenty of chicks will still accept being a ltr gf in the hope of hooking you but there will major problems with jealousy nevertheless.. these little girls can really go tampo when they are of a mind to ;) i've been wondering about doing something like this, supporting a couple of live-in wives. i'm wondering how to do this tactfully, without pissing off people or the girls themselves.
just arrived in philippines a few days ago and been using dateinasia to line up some girls to meet. any ideas how to make it tactfully clear that i'm interested in taking care of her, but that she won't be the only one?
how would you guys handle something like this? is there anything i need to watch out for?
Being an old fart, I am trying to find some way to cut down on visa runs when I get there and the really ripoff fees they charge every 2 months.
I might marry one of my friends there. Does anyone know the easiest way to get married and what bureaucratic hoops or bribes I will have to go through to accomplish it?Gulp! Get married just to stay here? Nah forget it. Like GE said, get a retirement visa & spend the rest of your retirement butterflying. Uh by the way, this country RUNS on ripoffs..
Read that you need several documents or that you can live in for a number of years and then automatically married? The women I know there are nice but are clueless mostly.If you really must know, it's pretty easy
assuming you are a yank : http://manila.usembassy.gov/wwwhlove.html
assuming you are an aussie : http://www.philippines.embassy.gov.au/mnla/marriage.html
permanent residence : http://immigration.gov.ph//index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=37
general info : http://marriage.about.com/od/philippines/a/philippines.htm
Also I will make an attempt, probably fruitless, to find an honest competent attorney there, so appreciate much any referrals if you know of anyone. I need to have a bank account there but am getting contrary information on whether or not one can be set up by a non-resident poriner.Money & connections will get you anything here. Forget honest..
AV
i've been wondering about doing something like this, supporting a couple of live-in wives. i'm wondering how to do this tactfully, without pissing off people or the girls themselves.
just arrived in philippines a few days ago and been using dateinasia to line up some girls to meet. any ideas how to make it tactfully clear that i'm interested in taking care of her, but that she won't be the only one?
how would you guys handle something like this? is there anything i need to watch out for?
i found it best to be up front with them that i was meeting other girls; that way i ran into a lot less jealousy. that said, if you have a regular live-in g/f, there is almost no way to avoid her getting jealous and possessive around you. that is part of who they are. so the best advice about playing around while living with a g/f is to do it somewhere else, hopefully out of reach of the filipina grapevine.
Just arrived in Philippines a few days ago and been using dateinasia to line up some girls to meet. Any ideas how to make it tactfully clear that I'm interested in taking care of her, but that she won't be the only one?Nope, wrong, not gonna happen in your wildest dreams this way. If you say on your DIA profile that you want to have fun & make it clear to prospective partners that you will be butterflying thats one thing but announcing a plan for polygamy will go down like a friggin lead balloon IMHO.
If you establish yourself in the province in a big house & get a good reputation you can, in time, 'take in' more than one woman into your household. These will be women from very poorest provincial families. The families and the women concerned will tolerate it if you are sufficiently 'supportive'. There will nevertheless be drama.
Understand that the better off filipino's get legally married with a formal ceremony but most of the (poor) people in the province merely form what we in the west call a 'defacto' relationship by commencing cohabitation together. They announce to friends & family 'we are married'.
The guy I know with 3 'wives' falls into this category of 'defacto'. Polygamy is officially off the menu nes pas?
AV
The only thing that seems to make any money in the Philippines are the expat bars. You might want to open a bar and pimp some hoes. With high bar fines and pricey ladies drinks you should make enough to get by comfortably if you don't get murdered.
And put up with harassment from the Philippine National Police in the form of monthly bar raids (claiming they looking for minors but really just want to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off the owners/foreign customers and throw their weight around. Weekly or monthly (which ever one they prefer) bribe request in the form of 5000PHP ($106) to line the pockets of their two sizes too small uniforms.
I was under the impression a foreigner cannot engage in business there, unless it is biz that caters only to other foreigners, so how does your friend get into the taxi business then?
As I stated a Filipino or Filipinos must own 60% of any business venture you go into unless it is a internet based company. The expat I was referring to is married to a Filipina.
The Rooster1
09-27-09, 01:26
i found it best to be up front with them that i was meeting other girls; that way i ran into a lot less jealousy. that said, if you have a regular live-in g/f, there is almost no way to avoid her getting jealous and possessive around you. that is part of who they are. so the best advice about playing around while living with a g/f is to do it somewhere else, hopefully out of reach of the filipina grapevine.somewhere else is so true as the rule goes: telegraph, telephone and tellafilipina!
TurdyCurdyOne
09-29-09, 21:48
And put up with harassment from the Philippine National Police in the form of monthly bar raids (claiming they looking for minors but really just want to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off the owners/foreign customers and throw their weight around. Weekly or monthly (which ever one they prefer) bribe request in the form of 5000PHP ($106) to line the pockets of their two sizes too small uniforms.
As I stated a Filipino or Filipinos must own 60% of any business venture you go into unless it is a internet based company. The expat I was referring to is married to a Filipina.Is the internet based business exception built into law there or what provisions must it meet? Servers in foreign country other than Phil, for example?
Is the internet based business exception built into law there or what provisions must it meet? Servers in foreign country other than Phil, for example?Nah, just that the laws have not kept up. Unless you are running a very big internet based business it would be easy to just not tell the BIR.
Assuming of course one is not making money from morally questionable activities from which the suitably outraged officials are not getting.. THEIR CUT!
Sooner or later word will spread & the PNP + anyone on the gravy train else will show up..
AV
This will happen again. This map could come in handy if you are shopping for a fuck pad.
http://www.disasterscharter.org/image/journal/article.jpg?img_id=56046&t=1254300668961
Nice to hear from someone who has knowledge of "morally questionable" issues, and/or illegal activities in the Philippines.
AV, can you give us a vague idea of the kind of business you have in the Philippines? I realize my question is way out of line, but since you seem to have knowledge of business in the Philippines, could you at least give us a rough idea of what your expertize is?
X
Nah, just that the laws have not kept up. Unless you are running a very big internet based business it would be easy to just not tell the BIR.
Assuming of course one is not making money from morally questionable activities from which the suitably outraged officials are not getting.. THEIR CUT!
Sooner or later word will spread & the PNP + anyone on the gravy train else will show up..
AV
Thanks for the link. Very interesting.
My newspaper had a picture of Filipinos walking on the power lines while people underneath were walking / escaping? with water up to their necks.
I would think walking on power lines would be dangerous, but a bit more thinking (I push myself sometimes) leads me to the conclusion that it's quite clever. The electricty just wouldn't be ON in such a situation - would it? And if it was, it wouldn't be smart to get into the water - would it?
And when do they decide it's safe to turn on the electricity again? Scary stuff.
X
This will happen again. This map could come in handy if you are shopping for a fuck pad.
http://www.disasterscharter.org/image/journal/article.jpg?img_id=56046&t=1254300668961
Thinking about if I was exporting products from the PI.
This one has been kicking around in my mind for years. I've traveled throughout Asia, and Malaysia, Singapore, and Indonesia always ranked well up there in culture and local crafts. They make nice stuff, and not just things to buy and take home. I could see actually selling these in the states, if I was to export them.
Then I go to the PI. I see the carved water buffalo, the obligatory wooden desk name plate, the cheap metal jeepneys. Where's the pride? As a tourist, I buy some of these, but I don't see anyone wanting to buy this stuff in the states.
As an example, have a look at these Indonesian wood carvings. These are examples of what I have seen sitting out at tourist shops in Jakarta. Don't tell me you find this level of work easily in the PI.
http://www.pbase.com/rileyuni/image/30135649
http://www.flickr.com/photos/leoroubos/3645157672/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/leoroubos/3644353119/in/photostream/
You note the craftsmen took a lot of time to make the objects 3-dimensional, and finished. Typical Philipino work is 2-dimensional, and very rough. Also of course I understand the Indonesians draw from perhaps a richer cultural well, and have more freedom of thought in a way.
Exceptions I have seen, and a long time ago. In Olongapo guys there were making excellent wood models of aircraft, and packing them so you could ship them home. Also I remember a boot shop where you could get just about any kind of skin on a cowboy boot. Now that is stuff I could sell....
Edit: Ok I do remember, if you are in the market for a rotating Jesus lava lamp thing, you can get that easy in the PI.
Cuba Tourist
10-01-09, 05:19
Waterboy,
normally I would agree with you that a girl that wants to bring one or more friends with her is bad news but in the philippines it doesn't always work like that. one time I met a girl on date in Asia and she agreed to meet me in the lobby of my hotel as long as she could bring a friend. We walked to a nearby bar, had a drink and talked for an hour or so, and then went back to my hotel room. The friend took the laptop onto the floor while we had sex on the bed. Later, I realized that the friend was planning to have sex with me as well.
When I met the girl several days later, she brought a different friend. Again, the friend played with the laptop while we had sex. When I go back, I'm planning on telling her to bring a different friend each time. This time, the friend will not be playing with the laptop.
FreebieFan
10-01-09, 08:37
Thinking about if I was exporting products from the PI.
This one has been kicking around in my mind for years. I've traveled throughout Asia, and Malaysia, Singapore, and Indonesia always ranked well up there in culture and local crafts. They make nice stuff, and not just things to buy and take home. I could see actually selling these in the states, if I was to export them.
Then I go to the PI. I see the carved water buffalo, the obligatory wooden desk name plate, the cheap metal jeepneys. Where's the pride? As a tourist, I buy some of these, but I don't see anyone wanting to buy this stuff in the states.
As an example, have a look at these Indonesian wood carvings. These are examples of what I have seen sitting out at tourist shops in Jakarta. Don't tell me you find this level of work easily in the PI.
http://www.pbase.com/rileyuni/image/30135649
http://www.flickr.com/photos/leoroubos/3645157672/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/leoroubos/3644353119/in/photostream/
You note the craftsmen took a lot of time to make the objects 3-dimensional, and finished. Typical Philipino work is 2-dimensional, and very rough. Also of course I understand the Indonesians draw from perhaps a richer cultural well, and have more freedom of thought in a way.
Exceptions I have seen, and a long time ago. In Olongapo guys there were making excellent wood models of aircraft, and packing them so you could ship them home. Also I remember a boot shop where you could get just about any kind of skin on a cowboy boot. Now that is stuff I could sell....
Edit: Ok I do remember, if you are in the market for a rotating Jesus lava lamp thing, you can get that easy in the PI.Go have a look in Nieman Marcus in US at the rattan furniture. Much of it made in Cebu.
Go have a look at Ann Taylor type garments in US stores.. most of it made in Phil garment manufacturers.
Have a look in Marks and Spencer stores in UK and same knitwear made in Phils.
Whats made for export and for local consumption are two totally different things.
I signed up last month. It has potential. I haven't figured out everything yet, but it does offer:
- Call mobile numbers in the PI for $0.17/minutes
- Get a transcript of voice messages left on your number sent to your email account
- Free LD calls in the US and to Canada
This will get more useful for expats when:
- You can get a local international number
- You can get local calls from the US forwarded to your phone in the PI.
- When 800 numbers are available.
Google help says international SMS is not available, but some people seem to be able to
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/voice/thread?tid=270dbae172fbceac&hl=en
Here is their site:
http://www.google.com/voice
What I could recommend for now is, sign up, and get a number that is local to people back home who want to call you. I believe you could get multiple numbers/accounts with different email addresses.
This is also a way to provide a US number for your business, and have the messages routed to you by email. Easier than calling in to listen to them.
Waterboy,
normally I would agree with you that a girl that wants to bring one or more friends with her is bad news but in the philippines it doesn't always work like that. one time I met a girl on date in Asia and she agreed to meet me in the lobby of my hotel as long as she could bring a friend. We walked to a nearby bar, had a drink and talked for an hour or so, and then went back to my hotel room. The friend took the laptop onto the floor while we had sex on the bed. Later, I realized that the friend was planning to have sex with me as well.
When I met the girl several days later, she brought a different friend. Again, the friend played with the laptop while we had sex. When I go back, I'm planning on telling her to bring a different friend each time. This time, the friend will not be playing with the laptop.
Most often they bring a auntie or sister which is bad news. If they bring friends it is ok. Alone is always better. Later she will introduce her friends if she likes you and you play your cards right.
Usually once they get your phone number they keep on texting. I met a girl who worked in DHL office. I gave her my phone number so that she can call me and let me know when my package will arrive at the destination because her boss was not there. She kept on texting me for us to meet outside and even willing to come to my room. When i asked her about sex she said no. She also wanted to bring her friend. Sometimes it is just to get a free meal and drinks at our expense. At that time I had other sure things arranged and did not want to try her out.
LoveAsianWhores
10-03-09, 05:42
Is the internet based business exception built into law there or what provisions must it meet? Servers in foreign country other than Phil, for example?I've been running my internet based business from the Philippines for 5 years now. Just don't sell to any any Philippine residents and you are pretty much exempt from all regulation and registration, as long as you are not doing anything illegal (counterfeit, pornography, etc). Maybe not technically, but certainly from a practical standpoint.
On another note, today I received a 500 peso gadget from the USA, but my customs fee was 2, 500. I smashed it (I don't want customs keeping it for free) and told Fedex to just return it to customs. It appears that customs has a $100 rule. If they don't know what the value is, they value it at $100. Fortunately, it works both ways as I once received $1, 000 in business supplies, for which they valued at $100.
But the good news is that yesterday Cignal satellite increased their HD channels to 7. I now have HBO and a couple of sports channels in HD. Between that and Apple TV, it's like I never left the US!
That is not correct. A foreigner can own 100% of any local business, as long as it is not retail (which includes bars, restaurents, etc as they sell to local consumers) or a couple of other niche businesses. Any type of internet, manufacturing, wholesaling, import/export, etc can be owned 100%, except of course the land.
So that means it is not a local business if you can't sale to the locals. For me the taxis which are low risk, low reward type of business would be the way to go yet this would still fall under selling to the locals.
Any type of internet, manufacturing, wholesaling, import/export, etc can be owned
Requires a lot of capital and are high risk but high reward type venues. Better off just investing in the stock market.
One business in PI that I personally know that a foreigner can own outright, is highly profitable yet offers low risk in terms of the investment falling through, is totally legal and requires a small amount of capital is money lending. On the other hand this business may be hazardous to your health for example:
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/regions/view/20090212-188939/Indian-shot-dead-in-front-of-wife
Indian shot dead in front of wife
By Marrah Erika Lesaba
Southern Luzon Bureau
First Posted 16:13:00 02/12/2009
Filed Under: Murder
BATANGAS CITY, Philippines -- An Indian national engaged in money lending was shot dead by an unidentified man in front of his wife in their home in Calatagan, Batangas Wednesday afternoon, police said Thursday.
Chief Inspector Elpidio Ramirez, Calatagan police chief, said Ibrahim Abdulrahiman, 46, of Barangay (village) Gulod, Calatagan was opening the gate of his house to let his vehicle in around 12:10 p.m. when the assailant approached and shot him in the back of the head with a homemade shotgun, killing him immediately.
The victim’s wife, Minerva Cuguimbal, who saw the crime from their vehicle, was still in shock and unable to talk about the incident, Ramirez said.
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/metro/view/20081217-178409/Indian-trader-shot-dead-in-Pasig
Indian trader shot dead in Pasig
By DJ Yap
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 03:58:00 12/17/2008
Filed Under: Crime, Local authorities
MANILA, Philippines – An Indian trader was shot dead by confessed hired guns Tuesday morning in Pasig City, allegedly upon the orders of a compatriot who was a business rival.
Gurbachan Singh Parmar, 57, who operated a lending business, was killed by three men armed with handguns at the corner of San Pedro and Visitacion Streets in Kalawaan, said Supt. Ramiro Bausa, officer in charge of the Pasig Police Station.
The three men were later arrested by barangay watchmen and were identified as Antonio Flores, 32, the alleged triggerman; Roberto Rivera, 20 and Marlon Navarro, 18.
Upon questioning, the three confessed that they were hired by a certain “Jojo,” who told them that they would be paid by another Indian national whom they did not name, Bausa said.
“The motive could be business rivalry, but we’re still investigating and trying to find out this person’s identity,” the official added.
Investigation showed that at about 8:20 a.m. Tuesday, Parmar was driving a motorcycle when the three men shot him in the head, killing him instantly, said Police Community Precinct 2 commander, Chief Insp. Anacleto Casimiro.
The suspects tried to flee by commandeering a tricycle but responding barangay watchmen caught up with them when they got stuck in traffic, Casimiro said.
Bausa said murder charges would be filed against all three. But Rivera and Navarro could turn state witness, depending on how they cooperate in the pursuit of the alleged masterminds, the official said.
ThatGuy865
10-03-09, 12:56
For me the taxis which are low risk, low reward type of business would be the way to go yet this would still fall under selling to the locals.You want to know risk. Once the local taxis drivers found out you were a foreigner taking away their business, how long do you think your taxis would remain operable. You'd have to have an amory to keep them safe at night and still when you drove them during the day. They probably ram them.
Internet cafe business require low capital and are big money makers. But its like any other business location means everything. If you can locate it in area where there are a lot of college students. You can make a bundle from game playin and the girls would be on web cam/chatting all day. I know a couple of ex-pats living off this type of busnesses in the PI but they started about 10 years ago.
I also have a friend who started a manufacturing company selling wood products over the internet. Now he's making BIG $$$ and lives like a king.
So its possible. You just have to find the right business.
You want to know risk. Once the local taxis drivers found out you were a foreigner taking away their business, how long do you think your taxis would remain operable. You'd have to have an amory to keep them safe at night and still when you drove them during the day. They probably ram them.
Internet cafe business require low capital and are big money makers. But its like any other business location means everything. If you can locate it in area where there are a lot of college students. You can make a bundle from game playin and the girls would be on web cam/chatting all day. I know a couple of ex-pats living off this type of busnesses in the PI but they started about 10 years ago.
I also have a friend who started a manufacturing company selling wood products over the internet. Now he's making BIG $$$ and lives like a king.
So its possible. You just have to find the right business.
I know too many foreigners who own taxis and I know many who are in the money lending business and they have not had any problems such as you just wrote about.
There are too many taxis on the street for a Filipino taxi driver to target one foreigner.
As for the cafe there are too many in Metro Manila already.
I've been running my internet based business from the Philippines for 5 years now. Just don't sell to any any Philippine residents and you are pretty much exempt from all regulation and registration, as long as you are not doing anything illegal (counterfeit, pornography, etc). Maybe not technically, but certainly from a practical standpoint.
On another note, today I received a 500 peso gadget from the USA, but my customs fee was 2, 500. I smashed it (I don't want customs keeping it for free) and told Fedex to just return it to customs. It appears that customs has a $100 rule. If they don't know what the value is, they value it at $100. Fortunately, it works both ways as I once received $1, 000 in business supplies, for which they valued at $100.
But the good news is that yesterday Cignal satellite increased their HD channels to 7. I now have HBO and a couple of sports channels in HD. Between that and Apple TV, it's like I never left the US!I have sling box, but what is Apple TV?
I know too many foreigners who own taxis and I know many who are in the money lending business and they have not had any problems such as you just wrote about.
There are too many taxis on the street for a Filipino taxi driver to target one foreigner.
As for the cafe there are too many in Metro Manila already.I can confirm this.
AV
I have sling box, but what is Apple TV?Its a media center type thing made by Apple (obviously). I use a lot of Apple gear but this is a lame product. Nothing technically wrong with it, just seriously unspecced & hobbeld by lockin.
AV
Its looking more and more like good content can be delivered via the internet. Hulu for example, and Youtube is bringing in content. (of course I say this from the US, not thinking how crappy Internet can be in the PI lol) OTOH, satellite must suck there in the rainy season?
I would put my money in a good Internet connection, and a way to output my pc monitor to TV. A large media drive of some kind as downloading a full DVD will still take some time. I am using a ReadyNAS hard drive in my home office.
Pinays in the states have access to tons of free PI programming via the Pinoychannel.tv
LoveAsianWhores
10-04-09, 18:32
Its a media center type thing made by Apple (obviously). I use a lot of Apple gear but this is a lame product. Nothing technically wrong with it, just seriously unspecced & hobbeld by lockin.
AVI am a gadget freek, and actually hate most other Apple gear (controlled, restricted stuff that only lets you do what Apple wants you to do), but I LOVE my apple TV. I can download just about every major movie ever released on DVD, most in HD with dolby digital sound. And most American TV shows, and many foreign shows, are also available. I can just buy a season pass to my favorite shows, and select whatever movies I want to watch, all from my couch. And it has a great interface that is easy and quick.
Now, if you can recommend something better, I am all ears. And keep in mind that most other similar services do not have TV shows, and the PS3, Netflix device, and just about everything else will not work with a Philippine IP address. And if you think you can just use an American proxy server to download a couple of hundred gig a month, think again.
It is not perfect, but if you think it is lame, you have either never used one, or just have no need for that type of service.
Question fellas: Is it better to buy a condo or rent in the Fils, I'm thinking Cebu as my destination.
just about everything else will not work with a Philippine IP address.
That did not occur to me, thanks for the tip. I already know retailers won't ship to the PI. If I move there I'll have my US office ship to me, or use a re-shipper and register my credit cards at that address.
GoodEnough
10-05-09, 12:21
That did not occur to me, thanks for the tip. I already know retailers won't ship to the PI. If I move there I'll have my US office ship to me, or use a re-shipper and register my credit cards at that address.
That's pretty much what we all do. My US office can get something here in 3-4 days via Fedex.
GE
Member #4167
10-05-09, 19:02
Waterboy,
normally I would agree with you that a girl that wants to bring one or more friends with her is bad news but in the philippines it doesn't always work like that. one time I met a girl on date in Asia and she agreed to meet me in the lobby of my hotel as long as she could bring a friend. We walked to a nearby bar, had a drink and talked for an hour or so, and then went back to my hotel room. The friend took the laptop onto the floor while we had sex on the bed. Later, I realized that the friend was planning to have sex with me as well.
When I met the girl several days later, she brought a different friend. Again, the friend played with the laptop while we had sex. When I go back, I'm planning on telling her to bring a different friend each time. This time, the friend will not be playing with the laptop.Hmmm .. OK ... You have slightly convinced me. But I would rather not have the freind along - typically they are cock blockers (She says "I would love to have sex with you - but I Can't my friend is with me." - how convenient )
Member #4167
10-05-09, 19:08
Most often they bring a auntie or sister which is bad news. If they bring friends it is ok. Alone is always better. Later she will introduce her friends if she likes you and you play your cards right.
Usually once they get your phone number they keep on texting. I met a girl who worked in DHL office. I gave her my phone number so that she can call me and let me know when my package will arrive at the destination because her boss was not there. She kept on texting me for us to meet outside and even willing to come to my room. When i asked her about sex she said no. She also wanted to bring her friend. Sometimes it is just to get a free meal and drinks at our expense. At that time I had other sure things arranged and did not want to try her out.You said "Alone is always better."
I agree - Thanks Sammon
My new rules:
Pre date: Insist they come alone.
If they insist on bringing relatives along, tell them "no date with relatives".
I may agree them bringing a freind, but only as a last resort.
Starchild2012
10-06-09, 12:32
BATANGAS CITY, Philippines -- An Indian national engaged in money lending was shot dead by an unidentified man in front of his wife in their home in Calatagan, Batangas Wednesday afternoon, police said Thursday.
Chief Inspector Elpidio Ramirez, Calatagan police chief, said Ibrahim Abdulrahiman, 46, of Barangay (village) Gulod, Calatagan was opening the gate of his house to let his vehicle in around 12:10 p.m. when the assailant approached and shot him in the back of the head with a homemade shotgun, killing him immediately.
The victim’s wife, Minerva Cuguimbal, who saw the crime from their vehicle, was still in shock and unable to talk about the incident, Ramirez said.
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/metro/view/20081217-178409/Indian-trader-shot-dead-in-Pasig
Indian trader shot dead in Pasig
hmmm...Americans coming to take over Indian territory of lending money to over spending pinoy's hehe...:D
I have talked to some Indian's here and tried to get their background as i'm one of them but not in the same business.
First, lending money is done by a very tight knit close community who came to PH a long long time back around 60 years or more from Sindh province.. present day Pakistan.
They are mostly from the traders cast, which means, they will do any business from shops to hotels to rentals to money lending but not jobs...they are encouraged from childhood to join family business or start any business than work 9 to 5 in office.
Indian's here do all kind of business but their main cash cow is money lending, now a days many Chinese are also into it as their main competition which employ Filipina women as their front.
Indian community is much like PH community, if one guy comes to a new place and settle down well, he would invite all and everyone far and wide from his village to expand its community...more like rats breeding and spreading in a new place.
Now Indians total around 40 to 50 thousand in PH, considering low job opportunity here, the number of Indian's coming here is increasing every year, these folks are the same marwari, sindhi bloodlines from lakshmi mittal the richest man in UK and ambani bro's and most of top 100 richest Indian's in the world are from their community.
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Now, the reason they are successful in money lending is not because of some special talent but because of their close knit community of thousands...even if some dude has a bad day he will be looked after by some other dude, remember they spread like rats...so there is always some cousin relative etc to take care of you, they would very rarely marry an outsider, so as to keep the business in their own domain.
Their success is in their numbers...
So, if any monger plans to start a business in the PH, we all know the pitfalls and discussed it in length. but yet, this money lending community keeps on growing, the reason as above, someone is always their to look after a fallen dude from their own community.
If you plan to start a business of your own in PH, going alone would be a very bad idea unless you are a millionaire and take losses easily. Team up, get as many people into your domain as possible and cut and divide your losses.
Now, this is the elephant in the room, TRUST, how would you be able to trust a partner, they solve this problem by building a community and bring along all and everyone to join in the family..so they have trader community of Sindhi's here, who would take care of one another...problem of trust solved.
They too have some internal problem etc, but this is the way they survive here in PH with a business.
You said "Alone is always better."
I agree - Thanks Sammon
My new rules:
Pre date: Insist they come alone.
If they insist on bringing relatives along, tell them "no date with relatives".
I may agree them bringing a freind, but only as a last resort.Depends on your target market. If you are openly advertising for naughty girls offering a sure thing, then sure make it clear. But if you are chasing 'good girls' or otherwise 'low mileage' girls then patience is a virtue. Usually they will reward you on the second date.
AV
I am a gadget freek, and actually hate most other Apple gear (controlled, restricted stuff that only lets you do what Apple wants you to do), but I LOVE my apple TV...OK
Now, if you can recommend something better, I am all ears. And keep in mind that most other similar services do not have TV shows, and the PS3, Netflix device, and just about everything else will not work with a Philippine IP address. And if you think you can just use an American proxy server to download a couple of hundred gig a month, think again.Im too busy to be staring at TV/movies to that degree. Currently I think most media server software are unsatisfactory.
It is not perfect, but if you think it is lame, you have either never used one, or just have no need for that type of service.I agree with you it works well for what it was designed to do (like most Apple gear) but I feel its storage is woefully inadequate. I feel its deliberately designed to force you to the iTunes store. Not good. Quite limited unless you want to hack it. Sorry too busy for that these days, I'll leave it to the 13 year olds..
AV
Food for thought...
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/05/20/09/rps-global-competitiveness-drops-3-notches
http://www.policy.aim.edu.ph/wcy2009.asp
http://www.imd.ch/research/publications/wcy/World-Competitiveness-Yearbook-Results.cfm
AV
Food for thought...
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/05/20/09/rps-global-competitiveness-drops-3-notches
http://www.policy.aim.edu.ph/wcy2009.asp
http://www.imd.ch/research/publications/wcy/World-Competitiveness-Yearbook-Results.cfm
AV
Doing business in the Philippines (when involving locals) reminds me of a “proverb” one my personal Afghan interpreters told me. A long time ago they would wrap their dead in cotton. Some time later a thief would come along later and steal the cotton to make clothes for himself as it was a fine cotton they wrapped their dead with. Now this was bad enough but then you had some thieves who would steal the cotton and fuck the dead. Doing business in the PI is more like the latter.
Cunning Stunt
10-14-09, 07:50
Doing business in the Philippines (when involving locals) reminds me of a “proverb” one my personal Afghan interpreters told me. A long time ago they would wrap their dead in cotton. Some time later a thief would come along later and steal the cotton to make clothes for himself as it was a fine cotton they wrapped their dead with. Now this was bad enough but then you had some thieves who would steal the cotton and fuck the dead. Doing business in the PI is more like the latter.
And so the moral of this story is....?
a. Don't open a funerary parlor in The Philippine?
b. Don't die in The Philippines and definitely don't die in Afghanistan:eek:?
Answers on a postcard to .....
Don't sweat it W, I'm just kidding with you:D.
Chocha Monger
10-14-09, 08:05
Doing business in the Philippines (when involving locals) reminds me of a “proverb” one my personal Afghan interpreters told me. A long time ago they would wrap their dead in cotton. Some time later a thief would come along later and steal the cotton to make clothes for himself as it was a fine cotton they wrapped their dead with. Now this was bad enough but then you had some thieves who would steal the cotton and fuck the dead. Doing business in the PI is more like the latter.
Warbucks:
Those guys are called necromongers. Keep what you fuck! That is the necromonger way. :D
I currently reside in Bangkok but several of my pals have adamantly recommended that I move to the Philippines instead.
I have to admit, I do favor Filipino pussy over Thai pussy.
I've been to Manila and didn't like it. What parts of the Philippines do you suggest I look at as a place to live? What's important to me?
1. Reliable and fast internet service.
2. Reasonable airport service since I still travel 6-8 times a year for business.
3. Young, sweet, cheap pussy.
Suggestions please! Thanks!
FreebieFan
10-16-09, 00:55
And so the moral of this story is....?
a. Don't open a funerary parlor in The Philippine?
b. Don't die in The Philippines and definitely don't die in Afghanistan:eek:?And have you seen Philippines funerals. They can be a MAJOR event.
The barangay comes in total to look at the body, which is always on display.
Food, (Jollibee) gossip, and sugar laden soft drinks are very a part of body viewing " accessories".
If the person had good contacts, then police will block the road for cortege procession. If the person was very well connected, the police/army etc will do a rifle fire volley.
All this can be had for very little money.
Hmmmm is there a business opportunity here.
I currently reside in Bangkok but several of my pals have adamantly recommended that I move to the Philippines instead.
I have to admit, I do favor Filipino pussy over Thai pussy.
I've been to Manila and didn't like it. What parts of the Philippines do you suggest I look at as a place to live? What's important to me?
1. Reliable and fast internet service.
2. Reasonable airport service since I still travel 6-8 times a year for business.
3. Young, sweet, cheap pussy.
Suggestions please! Thanks!I would definitly choose Cebu.
1. Good access to the world, they have directflights to most major asian citys like Hong Kong, Singapore, Bankok, KL. And there are good connections by air or sea to anywhere in Phils.
2. Good internet services
3. No shortage of nice pussy
4. I feel safe in most parts of the city.
5. No major calamitys, such as typhoons, earthquakes or volcanic eruptions.
Starchild2012
10-16-09, 15:38
I currently reside in Bangkok but several of my pals have adamantly recommended that I move to the Philippines instead.
I have to admit, I do favor Filipino pussy over Thai pussy.
I've been to Manila and didn't like it. What parts of the Philippines do you suggest I look at as a place to live? What's important to me?
1. Reliable and fast internet service.
2. Reasonable airport service since I still travel 6-8 times a year for business.
3. Young, sweet, cheap pussy.
Suggestions please! Thanks!
There is a lot of buzz about guys moving to PH from Thai, however, the info compared to living in Thai to Ph is very low. I think the better way would be to survey the place onceself in top 5 places for a month and then plan on settlement cos the info here is various from different mongers from different age, personality and income.
You can try Davoa info from dragon slayer thread, try livingincebu forums for cebu expats
personally, many folks retire in cebu and i also find it good there but my background is different as im from asia (india) so my views are very different from what other folks from developed nations view in terms of social life.
good luck
There is a lot of buzz about guys moving to PH from Thai, however, the info compared to living in Thai to Ph is very low. I think the better way would be to survey the place onceself in top 5 places for a month and then plan on settlement cos the info here is various from different mongers from different age, personality and income.
You can try Davoa info from dragon slayer thread, try livingincebu forums for cebu expats
personally, many folks retire in cebu and i also find it good there but my background is different as im from asia (india) so my views are very different from what other folks from developed nations view in terms of social life.
good luckAre Cebu and Davao the only two cities I should consider?
Any others?
There is a lot of buzz about guys moving to PH from Thai, however, the info compared to living in Thai to Ph is very low. I think the better way would be to survey the place onceself in top 5 places for a month and then plan on settlement cos the info here is various from different mongers from different age, personality and income.
You can try Davoa info from dragon slayer thread, try livingincebu forums for cebu expats
personally, many folks retire in cebu and i also find it good there but my background is different as im from asia (india) so my views are very different from what other folks from developed nations view in terms of social life.
good luck
BL I never lived in Thailand but I spent a decent amount of time there in 06-08 and all I can say PI beats the place hands down in terms of being a haven for expats. To the general nature of the people to the draconian visa restrictions Thailand is starting to fabricate.
Cunning Stunt
10-16-09, 17:03
If the person had good contacts, then police will block the road for cortege procession. If the person was very well connected, the police/army etc will do a rifle fire volley.
Yeah Freebie, tell me about it? A few weeks ago I stood in the rain, and watched a bedraggled procession worm its way up Alabang-Zapote Road. Now that must have been one very important muvver, You know A-Z Road in Las Pinas (the one with Southmall on it)? Its one of the busiest, most traffic clogged roads in Manila and they are stopping the traffic in the southbound lane for a fucking funeral cortege. Only in The Philippines:).
Thing was that it was like a gypsies funeral. Just a hearse followed by a bunch of disparate family, relatives and friends, none of whom looked particularly wealthy. But it must have been someone special unless they had paid a rather large bribe to the orange shirts. Probably the latter.
I currently reside in Bangkok but several of my pals have adamantly recommended that I move to the Philippines instead.
I have to admit, I do favor Filipino pussy over Thai pussy.
I've been to Manila and didn't like it. What parts of the Philippines do you suggest I look at as a place to live? What's important to me?
1. Reliable and fast internet service.
2. Reasonable airport service since I still travel 6-8 times a year for business.
3. Young, sweet, cheap pussy.
Suggestions please! Thanks!
You want a suggestion? Just spend an hour or three looking at the various Phils Boards other than Manila and I'm sure you will get answers to your questions. The questions you have posed have been answered many times before. I respectfully suggest you read, then you decide which place(s) you like and then report back your findings.
GoodEnough
10-17-09, 02:05
Are Cebu and Davao the only two cities I should consider?
Any others?
You might want to think about Cagayan de Oro as well, or perhaps Butuan, if you want a smaller city.
FreebieFan
10-17-09, 08:31
Yeah Freebie, tell me about it? A few weeks ago I stood in the rain, and watched a bedraggled procession worm its way up Alabang-Zapote Road. Now that must have been one very important muvver, You know A-Z Road in Las Pinas (the one with Southmall on it)? Its one of the busiest, most traffic clogged roads in Manila and they are stopping the traffic in the southbound lane for a fucking funeral cortege. Only in The Philippines:).
Thing was that it was like a gypsies funeral. Just a hearse followed by a bunch of disparate family, relatives and friends, none of whom looked particularly wealthy. But it must have been someone special unless they had paid a rather large bribe to the orange shirts. Probably the latter.Do I know that road. Yeah somewhat well I think I've spent about a year of my life stuck in traffic there! Once took me 1 hour from Honda Alabang on Zapote to SouthMall. Its maybe 3km at most.! I have a new chatmate who will soon be a bedmate (24 5ft, 90 pounds no kids. The normal). Who lives near there. She was amazed when I told her the names of all the places on zapote road. I've had enough time stuck in traffic to study them all!
…..and balls of fire are what it takes to operate a motor vehicle in Manila. Today was my first day out on road with locals. Drove from my village. Joy rode around Makati and the Greenbelt etc. It wasn’t my first time driving in a foreign country that honor goes to Pattaya, Thailand.
Few Things Observed:
Traffic lights:
In most parts of town traffic lights are nonexistent. During the day there are traffic cops directing traffic. At night every men, women and child for themself.
Road Lines:
Barely visible and in some places nonexistent. So you just have to drive all over the road not knowing where the fuck you suppose to be LOL.
Other Cars:
Jeepneys letting out so much black smoke looks like a James Bond Smoke screen. Trikes whipping by you every which way. On both sides of car in the wrong lanes.
Other than that it wasn’t as bad as I thought it was going to be….
I detailed what driving a car is like in Metro Manila in the above post so allow me to reiterate.
I have now damn near driven all the over the Metro Manila area Quezon City to Cavite. Most of the reasons have been because of business and random square (non p4p) pussy.
Day Time:
Driving in the day is hell. Traffic jams galore, dangerous weaving into the incoming traffic lanes yes your lane by Motorcycles, Jeepney and Trikes. Aggressive (not giving way) impatient drivers rule the road. Any thing that momentarily distracts you could prove fatal or cause serious damage to your ride. Driver discipline is unheard of here. The Taxi drivers who face this everyday have earned my fucking respect.
Night Time:
Driving at night off the chain. Translated for lames (off the chain means cool) not much traffic and there is always shit going on at night. One reason is because of the Midnight hoes. (What Warbucks calls the girls who walk the city at night looking for something to get into. Or something to get into them) Warbucks has no tinted windows (getting that fixed soon) so people can see into the car trust me the smiles and waves from the ladies come.
The roads are pretty clear so in most places you can just ball the fuck out translated for lames (drive fast) but beware of the PNP they sometime set up check points and you don’t want those guys dipping in your coolaid. (Bothering you)
Getting Around:
I have gotten lost like hell but I always get to my destination either by luck or just seeing some shit I recognize. Getting lost is not bad though if it’s at night just because of the shit I mentioned above.
I have not had any problems with jackers, translated for lames (robbers) but I have heard they will roll up on you with a damager (gun) I mean my ride is kind of nice but again no problems.
This Thing Called Confidence:
Like I said as of now I have damn near driven in or through all the sub-cities of Metro Manila. Now I was feeling like That Dude.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=+that+dude
I have picked up girls took them to the Dusit utilized valet parking did my thing and took them to their office in the morn. Have sat in the parking lot of a mall listening to slow jams with a shy office girl who wasn’t ready for the telly and was trying to feel Warbucks out etc…
The other day while going to an expensive but delicious Chinese restaurant I always eat at I was in the right lane close as possible to curve…turn signal on for like 2 mins before my turn I am in the turning motion just then live in girl friend screams……. motorcycle with small kid (with no personal protection equipment, helmets etc) on the back drives on the curve on the right side of me (into my turning direction) and if my girl had never said anything I would have took’ em both out.
The guy…. I could care less about if I put him on his ass. But that kid…. As I sat pondering what could have been… my live in and her visiting relatives from First world went on as if nothing ever happened.
Cunning Stunt
10-30-09, 16:50
I detailed what driving a car is like in Metro Manila in the above post so allow me to reiterate.
Wow, some real knowch stuff from a real pimp mac dre! Or is that too off the chain for youse lames?
It’s a real urban jungle out there for the unwary on wheels.
Pleeeeze, pleeze, more of your traffic stories. We are all entranced.
GoodEnough
10-30-09, 17:11
Warbucks, welcome to my life. I've been driving here for about 6 years..first with a bike, then with a bike and a car and now (figuring I had pushed the envelope far enough with the bike) just with a car. It's mindless mayhem every day but what's scary is that after a while you get used to it, and it all seems normal. Bicycle riders in the middle lane at night with no lights and dark clothes? Normal. Jeepney/trike drivers with no lights bobbing and weaving and stopping wherever and whenever they like? Normal.Turning right from the left lane and left from the right lane with no signal, no braking, and no evident look in the mirrors? Normal.
I've finally decided that driving behavior is the perfect and most appropriate metaphor for the entire country...utterly mindless, utterly lawless, evidencing no concern for anyone else at any time, and yet, most of the time it all works after a fashion.
GE
GE are you carrying any insurance, or just figure to bribe ur way out of an incident?
I drove for a few months down south wile with the military. Our insurance was if there was an accident, just go directly to base (assuming the car still ran).
I like it when the little trike guys get to a stop sign, and then just u-turn right in front of you.
Wow, some real knowch stuff from a real pimp mac dre! Or is that too off the chain for youse lames?
It’s a real urban jungle out there for the unwary on wheels.
Pleeeeze, pleeze, more of your traffic stories. We are all entranced.
Don't forget the Midnight hoes:D
GoodEnough
10-31-09, 00:25
GE are you carrying any insurance, or just figure to bribe ur way out of an incident?
I drove for a few months down south wile with the military. Our insurance was if there was an accident, just go directly to base (assuming the car still ran).
I like it when the little trike guys get to a stop sign, and then just u-turn right in front of you.
I do have insurance. It's the law, and though of course like every other law here it's not enforced, I obey it. I understand--though I've never tested it--that the insurance companies here actually do pay off.
For the most part I only use the car while in Davao. Any longer trips, I use a company car and driver.
GE
FreebieFan
10-31-09, 03:44
I've finally decided that driving behavior is the perfect and most appropriate metaphor for the entire country...utterly mindless, utterly lawless, evidencing no concern for anyone else at any time, and yet, most of the time it all works after a fashion.
GEThats one of the most apt desciptions I've read in a long time.
Been driving in Phils on and off for past 20 years.
I work in a country where most traffic rules are obeyed, and people keep to their own lanes, more or less and enter a totally different world where there are no rules and no lights. As I usually have one hand on the wheel and the other on a pussy, I dont really care.
There are two traffic cameras in the whole country ( in Fort Bonifacio) and no danger of points being deducted from a licence.
The only danger is me hitting someone or someone hitting me... and so far so good.
Wow, some real knowch stuff from a real pimp mac dre! Or is that too off the chain for youse lames?
It’s a real urban jungle out there for the unwary on wheels.
Pleeeeze, pleeze, more of your traffic stories. We are all entranced.
I am no pimp (none of us are pimps, pimps don’t pay for sex in no form or fashion I know I grew up around one of the world’s most famous) and what the fuck is a Mac Dre?(should be against the law for your type to speak hip hop slang) I am just a young black dude with no kids doing my thing on this side of world and sharing with ISG community at large which doesn’t only consist of 25 year long SE Asia expats (like that is something to be proud of). How about yourself?
Gay security patter down? Never come across one of them before. Somebody’s got a malicious sense of humour.....
This is much more interesting. You mother fuckers crack me up.
Don't forget the Midnight hoes:D
What should I call women hanging out at midnight with dolled-up faces and who will come up to any car especially one with solo male foreigner ready to ride and go for a few dollars? Mother Teresa?
Thats one of the most apt desciptions I've read in a long time.
Been driving in Phils on and off for past 20 years.
I work in a country where most traffic rules are obeyed, and people keep to their own lanes, more or less and enter a totally different world where there are no rules and no lights. As I usually have one hand on the wheel and the other on a pussy, I dont really care.
There are two traffic cameras in the whole country ( in Fort Bonifacio) and no danger of points being deducted from a licence.
The only danger is me hitting someone or someone hitting me... and so far so good.Only been driving on Phils for 5 years FF. I've always hated too many rules in over regulated first world countries. I've reveled in the free for all atmosphere & like GE I've become so accustomed to it that I am completely comfortable with it, but I got to tell you there are times when the blatantly homicidal behavior of some drivers scares the hell out of me.
Those are the times I remember that top quality life saving emergency medicine is far - far away.. I can mix it with the most gung-hoe fast driver but I tell you, I drive defensively out of self preservation. In this macho society crazy fuckers will kill themselves AND you before yielding.
Out in the province I drive but in Manila its strictly taxi's for Moi.
Seen too many 'barangay police' pull people over & extort them for money..
AV
Cunning Stunt
10-31-09, 14:08
i am no pimp ..etc
whazzup, don’t know your own lingua franca? http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pimp%20mac%20dre.
thought it was a complement!
limited fun to be had taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) out of you then, i guess? a fellow countryman would have recognized the irony and come back at me with something similar. not thought i was being even slightly serious.
must remember you are a colonial.
btw, i’ve driven the mean streets of the philippines for over 10 years. no fuss or big deal. only 2 minor scrapes in that time. and more amazingly, only being stopped 3 times by police/traffic enforcers during that time from which i received one ticket and contributed to the next police knees-up the other 2 times.
its not rocket science;). just expect the unexpected and you’ll be fine. fuck me the traffic seldom moves fast enough for anyone to do any real harm!!
FreebieFan
11-02-09, 00:48
doesn’t only consist of 25 year long SE Asia expats (like that is something to be proud of). And the problem in your estimation of being a 25 year expat in Asia would be...???
From my side having done my 25 years in 5 asian countries
1. Got the tax free salary for all that time
2. got to travel the world on business
3. Got the stock options
4. Got the business class travel once a year with family.
5. got the international schoolling for the kids
6. Got the housing including electricity/gas/water paid for
7. Got the company car and petrol/gas paid for all that time.
Whats not to be proud of ?
Oh yes, and had unlimited mongering all over Asia too.... damn , nearly forgot that one.
FreebieFan
11-02-09, 00:50
Must remember you are a colonial.Throw the tea bags away before they tax it. LOL!
Rubio Tonto
11-02-09, 01:24
Warbucks, drivers trying to pass you on the right as you're making a right turn while your turn signal is on also happens here in Los Angeles. It's happened to me twice in shopping center parking lots in the past few years. I drive an SUV crossover so I need to start from the left side of the driveway when pulling into a parking space on my right, so I hit my turn signal and then pull in. Aggressive drivers have twice tried to pass me by gunning it right as I'm starting my turn into the parking space, and accidents were avoided both times when we both slammed on our brakes.
There's no way I'd even attempt to drive in Metro Manila, though. Every taxi ride is an adventure. Photo is of one of my Manila freebies, the MILFest MILF I've ever F'd.
FreebieFan
11-02-09, 03:19
btw, i've driven the mean streets of the philippines for over 10 years. no fuss or big deal. only 2 minor scrapes in that time. and more amazingly, only being stopped 3 times by police/traffic enforcers during that time from which i received one ticket and contributed to the next police knees-up the other 2 times.experiences from my driving.
1. traffic cop stooped traffic for me, at 1. am so i could make an illegal you turn on ayala ave to get to makati med. has told him family member taken to hospital, which was true.
2. stopped on edsa/taft by the mmda cockraoches. i was wearing the seat belt but the gal id just bonked in sogo wasnt. i've never let that happen since. p500. 3. stopped on edsa for making right turn on red off makati ave. p500.
4. stopped for "swerving" enering megamall. as in turning right and indicating same.
traffic cop talked for long time about lack of christmas presents etc. told gim i had recorded his conversation on my phone. he decided to let me go.
5. stopped on skyway for breaking the wooden barrier. incredibly funny conversation ensued.
endless blows and handjobs from syt', and endless fingering of same syt's on the roads have just added to the pleasure of driving there.
Cunning Stunt
11-02-09, 08:05
Endless blows and handjobs from SYT', and endless fingering of same SYT's on the roads have just added to the pleasure of driving there.Reminds me of the joke:
Why do men pay more than women for car insurance?
Because women don't get blow jobs while they're driving.
So you are the reason my premiums are so high?
:D
Slipperydee
11-02-09, 08:08
hmmm...Americans coming to take over Indian territory of lending money to over spending pinoy's hehe...:D
I have talked to some Indian's here and tried to get their background as i'm one of them but not in the same business.
First, lending money is done by a very tight knit close community who came to PH a long long time back around 60 years or more from Sindh province.. present day Pakistan.
They are mostly from the traders cast, which means, they will do any business from shops to hotels to rentals to money lending but not jobs...they are encouraged from childhood to join family business or start any business than work 9 to 5 in office.
Indian's here do all kind of business but their main cash cow is money lending, now a days many Chinese are also into it as their main competition which employ Filipina women as their front.Thanks for the basic oversight, it should be a business that can be reconsidered. I have some close friends, maybe can get them along into a new community of non-locals.
FreebieFan
11-02-09, 08:31
Reminds me of the joke:
Why do men pay more than women for car insurance?
Because women don't get blow jobs while they're driving.
So you are the reason my premiums are so high?
:DWhen a lady is doing sweet things with my nether regions my eyes are firmly fixed on the road ahead.
Its so much fun to see the people in jeepneys look... then look again and then have that " are they doing what I think they are doing " look.
After crashing and burning in my attempt to import a pinay and keep her, it’s occurred to me that there is really nothing keeping me in the states anymore, so I am planning a move to the PI. I would appreciate insights from the old timers on how best to arrange and manage a live-in girl. Major goals for me would be: No more raincoats for sex (I will have a vasectomy), get my house cleaned, meals cooked, sample take-out girls from time to time (properly protected of course), but not excessively so.
Problems I anticipate would include: Entanglements, stalking activity, problems with the family when the relationship ends, bogus charges and extortion scams.
Budget: Besides room and board and the usual gifts, for regular girls I am thinking 4,000-5,000P/month to help her family or toward college. But a recent poster suggested he was giving his girl 500P a month!
I am thinking importing a girl from the “provinces” would be the best bet. A small town girl might be most inclined to appreciate the ‘help’ for her family, and with the folks far away, perhaps less potential for legal troubles? Also no problems with a potential local old boyfriend. And if I send her home, no possibility for real stalking.
OTOH, looking around where I live, I will have the time to find and 'court' a truly fine girl. Just seems like not worth the trouble with a local girl, with family, old boyfriends, and local cops to worry about.
In fairness to the girl, anytime I chat online I am making it clear what while I would like someone to be with me, I am not a marrying man any more. I am thinking that older girls will probably be under increasing pressure to marry. And knowing how boring younger girls can be, my strategy there would be to get out of the house in the day. I go out golfing, or I send her out on errands or to classes. I can take the occasional weekend to the city for some outcall.
Other than the potential for bogus claims to authorities, it seems so easy. If the girl gives me anything but the utmost in enthusiasm and appreciation--I send her home. Not like I can’t find a replacement, and she knows that…So do you think I am on the right track here? Thanks in advance for the feedback.
Slipperydee
11-04-09, 03:11
After crashing and burning in my attempt to import a pinay and keep her, it’s occurred to me that there is really nothing keeping me in the states anymore, so I am planning a move to the PI. I would appreciate insights from the old timers on how best to arrange and manage a live-in girl. Major goals for me would be: No more raincoats for sex (I will have a vasectomy), get my house cleaned, meals cooked, sample take-out girls from time to time, but not excessively so.
Problems I anticipate would include: Entanglements, stalking activity, problems with the family when the relationship ends, Complains from the family and bogus charges and scams.
Budget: Besides room and board and the usual gifts, for regular girls I am thinking 4,000-5,000P/month to help her family or toward college. But a recent poster suggested he was giving his girl 500P a month!
I am thinking importing a girl from the “provinces” would be the best bet. A small town girl might be most inclined to appreciate the ‘help’ for her family, and with the folks far away, perhaps less potential for legal troubles? Also no problems with a potential local old boyfriend. And if I send her home, no possibility for real stalking.
OTOH, looking around where I live, I will have the time to find and 'court' a truly fine girl. Just seems like not worth the trouble with a local girl, with family, old boyfriends, and local cops to worry about.
In fairness to the girl, anytime I chat online I am making it clear what while I would like someone to be with me, I am not a marrying man any more. I am thinking that older girls will probably be under increasing pressure to marry. And knowing how boring younger girls can be, my strategy there would be to get out of the house in the day. I go out golfing, or I send her out on errands or to classes. I can take the occasional weekend to the city for some outcall.
Other than the potential for bogus claims to authorities, it seems so easy. If the girl gives me anything but the utmost in enthusiasm and appreciation--I send her home. Not like I can’t find a replacement, and she knows that…So do you think I am on the right track here? Thanks in advance for the feedback.First of all, try learning Tagalog. Better to understand them even when you can't speak to them in their language.
Problems: All the stalking can be avoided when proper understanding, or making her understand your terms upon the first meet-up. Make her agree to your plans / proposal. It will also avoid mix-up with the relatives later on, unless the other relatives wants to have/give 'freebies'.
Budget: Php 5,000.00 will be a reasonable monthly allowance. For a province girl, some would even bath you every morning for Php 4,000.00/month. Mind you, most province girls/wives got P100.00 daily allowance at most.
Your best bet will be 'province' girl, even though there are some 'city' girl out there that is also approachable. Only by spending some times in your area of 'mongering' will get you to sample more that match your tastes. Online chat do only expose you to a small variety of girls. Try also mingling with some trust-able neighbors for contacts. Who knows, you might get what you want from girls around the corner.
Other than that, from my point of opinion, you already has some good plans there.
Good luck.
Cunning Stunt
11-04-09, 04:55
Jambo:
Why do you need advice? You seem to have the advantages and pitfalls all worked out.
Lucky you. Although I am economically and geographically separated, I have too many Filipino/a eyes and ears keeping an eye on me to allow me complete freedom whilst I’m in the Philippines. So I have to go sneaking around to get my full weekly allowance of poon. Mind you I have become a past master at this and with pussy available everywhere I turn, it is not too difficult:D.
Anyway, I digress. Once you have settled in wherever you wish to settle in PI, I would get working on DIA/Tagged or make an exploratory field trip. I would head to Mindanao. I’ve lost count of the number of Mindanaoan maidens that have offered to come and look after and pamper me. They seem to make natural earth mother types down there and I am sure it wouldn’t be too hard to find a good one to train up in the finer arts of taking care of master. Just make it clear that relatives are not allowed to visit your love pad (but take her home once in a while as recompense).
Good luck and I hope that your ambitions becomes a reality. It possibly will, but you might be required to change the model every few months as the old one becomes annoyingly cranky and demanding, particularly as regards getting a ring on her finger.
Ahhh – dream on!!
CS
What type of self-respecting hip hopper rides around with a whack ass stereo system? Comes in handy when the ladies are aboard and you got some crystal clear smooth shit playing on the sound system. The factory radio was bullshit so I go to the local mall and buy nice deck. Now I am not going to get specific but I spent “a couple” of Pesos on it.
Day #1
In the Philippines before you buy any electrical equipment they will hook it up or operate the equipment for you so you can see that is functional before you purchase. This is definitely unique because they damn sure don’t do this in the States.
The guys at the shop seem to not have a clue so I have to basically get behind the counter and show them how to operate their own shit they suppose to be selling me.
Now I must be fair and say that Warbucks was an amateur car audio enthusiast about 9 years ago when was in my late teens. My live in looks on in embarrassment and amazement as I am hooking up and operating “their” equipment.
The radio is good to go… sounds good now Warbucks cruises the streets of Manila to the sounds of Jay-Z, Gucci Mane, Wayne, Cam’ron, Jeezy and Boney James.
Day #3
Radio breaks for some unknown reason at first. Yes day 3. Warbucks finds this unsatisfactory. Regular shotgun rider I have nick named The Brain (Super intelligent snow white, managerial office chick) laughs at Warbucks now silent ride :(
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ride+shotgun
I go back to shop with warranty and receipt in hand asking for them to correct this wrong. Now I could have fixed this as I knew exactly what the problem was but I did not have any tools, I was simply too lazy to do the work. Also they installed it… it fucked up they should fix it
.
They tell me come back next day. I come back the day. They tell me again to come back the next day. Now Warbucks is pissed at this point. Instead of using anger Warbucks uses his “Brain” he knows what is happening here.
Foreigners get no respect. No difference from if an outsider ventured into my old “hood” back in the States unless he was a cop he would be dismissed.
I call my live in’s (visiting from first world country) mother who goes to the radio store and tears all inside a new asshole in Tagalog and English. After that radio is promptly fixed now Warbucks rides again.
ManonsanBoy
11-04-09, 10:27
After crashing and burning in my attempt to import a pinay and keep her, it’s occurred to me that there is really nothing keeping me in the states anymore, so I am planning a move to the PI. Thanks in advance for the feedback.
This is a human relationship issue. I think 5000 P may be a little too lean but you never know. Drive too hard a bargain, you will get a corresponding response.
Er on the generous side a little, you are more likely to get some reward. After all, you are talking about a domestic helper who also sleeps with you.
I'd say treat her as well as you can afford and let the dice fall where they will.
In the Philippines before you buy any electrical equipment they will hook it up or operate the equipment for you so you can see that is functional before you purchase. This is definitely unique because they damn sure don’t do this in the States.I have found that they do this because if it works in the store and you buy it, don't try to come back and try to get a refund. Check most stores refund policy, there isn't one:(
Also, if you buy a flash drive DO NOT let them test it on their computer. There was a rash of computer viruses here and come to find out that the computer store that we buy business supplies from had a virus on their computer and they were sharing the love:(
Robb
LoveAsianWhores
11-05-09, 01:32
I have found that they do this because if it works in the store and you buy it, don't try to come back and try to get a refund. Check most stores refund policy, there isn't one:(
Also, if you buy a flash drive DO NOT let them test it on their computer. There was a rash of computer viruses here and come to find out that the computer store that we buy business supplies from had a virus on their computer and they were sharing the love:(
RobbVery true, but with one exception, SM. This is why I never shop around for any electronics (or anything for that matter) that SM sells. You have one week to bring it back, as opposed to a "no returns under any circumstances" policy at just about every other retailer.
You would think that competitors would see the success that SM has in selling everything and would copy their policies, but apparently very few do.
WB, what is stopping the driver from stealing your car?
This is why you don’t just get just anyone to drive for you. You screen and hire no different from any other employer. Your live in girl friend’s family should be given the opportunity first. No…. not bar girl live in’s family.
Your numbers make it appear extremely lucrative. You haven't painted the whole picture. No way owning taxis in Manila could be that profitable for any length of time. Have you owned a taxi there? If not, I'll simply say the numbers you provide don't tell the whole story. If you have, I'd be interested in seeing a real-life example of your first year cashflows on one cab. PM is fine if you prefer. Much thanks.
Hmm. No I Houziwang I am not talking from firsthand experience. However I do have a lot of friends here who do own taxis and these are the numbers they gave me. I have inquired about this business venture a great deal as I will get into this business when I retire here (which will be in about 2 years before I hit 30 LOL) but as of now I am earning too much money at work to even think about it.
I know one retired American who lives in my subdivision and he owns 5. If this business was not profitable I doubt there would be as many as there is on the street.
To make bounty all they have to do is keep returning outside of the airport or any SM and they can make that bounty in a few trips.
The problem is the maintenance/buying new ones if you have multiple cars you have to keep up maintenance on all of them. Do you think the Filipinos will respect that it is not their car and drive to protect the vehicle (pot holes or fender benders)?
That's why most just drive the car until it is junk and then buy another serviceable cheap used one.
Warbucks bending and grinning (translated… driving a car while being in a good mood and smiling) around EDSA when the light catches me on my way to Makati.
Windows still not tinted traffic cop sees Warbucks and Shirley Temple curls having, Icy White, college educated, early 20s professional Filipina riding shot gun.(foreigners must be with Bar girls or Bar girl-esque LOL) First one spots us then he tells all his home boys. Now they all looking. You know they don’t like that shit. The light turns green they tell Warbucks to stop. Checks seats belts then lets Warbucks go. 100 cars and they check nobody shit but mine.
I feel their pain they directing traffic and I riding around in a nice car with somebody’s conservative Christian raised daughter listening to a Gangsta rap music on my way to telly…I know life sucks.
100 cars and they check nobody shit but mine.
Clearly a case of racial profiling. You guys can't catch a break. Next time just go ahead and put on one of those middle eastern man-dresses and white skull cap and see if it helps..
Clearly a case of racial profiling. You guys can't catch a break. Next time just go ahead and put on one of those middle eastern man-dresses and white skull cap and see if it helps..
Nope just finally got my lazy ass over to the tint shop. Now you couldn't see inside if the Sun was riding shotgun.
I knew a run with them especially with the see-through windows was inevitable.... shocked it has not happened sooner.
I found a great area for car tint and accessories. Anyone interested shoot me a PM.
FreebieFan
11-08-09, 13:03
Nope just finally got my lazy ass over to the tint shop. Now you couldn't see inside if the Sun was riding shotgun.
I knew a run with them especially with the see-through windows was inevitable.... shocked it has not happened sooner.
I found a great area for car tint and accessories. Anyone interested shoot me a PM.I once had a car there that was also totally tinted out from the sun/the moon and any other light bearing source.
Great idea I thought and great for playing around. All was fine till I drove into some area that had no street lights, trikes with no lights ( as usual) and other cars who may have had lights on or not.. the tinting was so damn strong I could hardly see anything around.
I switched to a more moderate level after that.
Darth Sushi
11-09-09, 13:46
I once had a car there that was also totally tinted out from the sun/the moon and any other light bearing source.
Great idea I thought and great for playing around. All was fine till I drove into some area that had no street lights, trikes with no lights ( as usual) and other cars who may have had lights on or not.. the tinting was so damn strong I could hardly see anything around.
I switched to a more moderate level after that.
My neighbor used a mirror tint instead of the dark stuff. I works great during the day and it's not as dark at night.
Member #4214
11-09-09, 17:00
Hmm. No I Houziwang I am not talking from firsthand experience. However I do have a lot of friends here who do own taxis and these are the numbers they gave me. I have inquired about this business venture a great deal as I will get into this business when I retire here ...
I'm quite certain your friends don't make a reasonable profit owning taxis. Regulators make out by charging fees. Drivers perhaps earn a bit by driving. Repair shops certainly do ok with the additional work. But your friends are invested in taxis for reasons other than to earn a profit. Maybe being a business owner facilitates their residency. Or it is a good way to employ local relations. I wouldn't consider an investment for any other reason. Wouldn't even look at it ...
Jambo, I do not know whether you have found your live in keeper yet, but this is my experience.
I spent a year in Manila a while ago. I had a nice apartment in Ortigas, and I needed someone to look after me, as I am hopeless at looking after myself.
So I looked for a housekeeper.
A mate and I were in LAC, when we were approached and chatted by two decent looking women. My mate wasn't interested, but I took the better of them home for the night, with the notion that she may do the job OK.
She looked after me very well that night, and over breakfast the nnext day, I asked if she wanted to be my housekeeper. I outlined her responsibilities. She cooks, cleans, does the laundry, irons, and provides me with FS, sleeping with me every night. Salary 10,000 per month.
She agreed.
The deal was that I put a weekly budget in a jar in the kitchen, and she used whatever she needed for shopping, paying bills etc.
She did everything, anticipated what we needed. If the budget was too low, she would as for more. I could always check the balance in the jar against the receipts, which she always got, and put in the jar with the change. Like a petty cash system. I had to do nothing, except put the budget into the jar, and occasionally balance the contents of the jar.
It worked out very well. She provided excellent service in every department. Occasionally she would ask if her friend could stop over. I always agreed, so we had fairly regular threesomes, very amiable, very casual, and very horny.
She lived in Cavite, and sometimes she would ask if she could take days off to spend time with her one kid in the care of her mother.
I always agreed, and took the occasion to invite other damsels who had expressed interest, to come over for a night or two. The busiest time was one easter, when a friend came over for the four days with two other friends.
This went on for a year. She was happy, I was happy. We were good friends, and we went out to social functions together. She was good company, 23, had some experience, and spoke pretty reasonable English. And she was very pretty, with a slim figure.
After my time was up, we parted company.
I later was told by some of her family that she had fallen desperately in love, and that forever after that, I was the best guy she had ever had.
I paid her what I did, because she took responsibility for everything that happened in the house, and she did it well. And she had no urge to steal, because she knew that if I gave her the boot, she would be the loser with the loss of such a good income.
So, for what it was.
Reading your request for suggestions, your situation is pretty much like mine.
I have been looking for a good place to live, with much the same characteristics as yours, but in addition I want to be close to the sea because I like diving, swimming, sailing.
My choices so far are Davao, Cebu and Olongapo/Subic.
I still need to check out Cagayan de Oro and Dumaguette.
I have looked at Butuan, and it has little going for it in my estimation, same for General Santos, Tagbilaran.
Gangles
Jambo, I do not know whether you have found your live in keeper yet, but this is my experience.
Thanks for the info there Gangles. Sounds like a great set up. For me its a treat to have unprotected sex, and I will only do that with someone I trust, so that's my motivation to have a live-in. And as you say, its not hard to find some 'strange' from time to time. Bringing in a local girl, I would worry about stalking behavior if I dismissed her. You had an exit strategy so good on ya.
Since I will be home a lot, a concern is what to do when they get to boring me, boring themselves. Perhaps keeping two--they can talk to each other and leave me alone to my work? Or I could send a girl to classes in the day.
Gentlmen,
I am planning a trip to Cebu for March or April. My trip has two purposes: 1) Sample the ladies and have general monger fun. and 2) Look to possibly moving to this country and running a business from there.
The business would involvle a call center so I need to determine the realive abundance of potential workers with good English skills and, perhaps just as importantly, what is involved with the local government.
Do any of you have any insight as to the what bureaucratic hassles and hurtles are starting an operation in the Phils? The business customers, billing, and banking would occur outside the phils (ie no income from the Phils itself) and only enouph revenue to cover local operating costs would flow into the Phils.
I understand that call centers are a big business in the Phils, but am specifically ignorant regarding barriers to entry in starting a (to begin with) small office.
I would appreciate your thoughts and insight. If any of you have business experience in the Phils and are willing to share knowledge I would be pleased to exchange phone or email information via PM and chat directly.
Regards,
Riverman
GoodEnough
12-07-09, 12:06
Gentlmen,
I am planning a trip to Cebu for March or April. My trip has two purposes: 1) Sample the ladies and have general monger fun. and 2) Look to possibly moving to this country and running a business from there.
The business would involvle a call center so I need to determine the realive abundance of potential workers with good English skills and, perhaps just as importantly, what is involved with the local government.
Do any of you have any insight as to the what bureaucratic hassles and hurtles are starting an operation in the Phils? The business customers, billing, and banking would occur outside the phils (ie no income from the Phils itself) and only enouph revenue to cover local operating costs would flow into the Phils.
I understand that call centers are a big business in the Phils, but am specifically ignorant regarding barriers to entry in starting a (to begin with) small office.
I would appreciate your thoughts and insight. If any of you have business experience in the Phils and are willing to share knowledge I would be pleased to exchange phone or email information via PM and chat directly.
Regards,
Riverman
There's a national association of small call center operators here, and I suggest you contact that organization.
FreebieFan
12-23-09, 04:49
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=assed+out[/url
assed out- a colorful term coined by my fellow black americans (creative bunch) that basically means to find yourself in a fucked up situation.
homeward bound
after dropping one of my girls off at work at i head home. the streets of manila are empty its early morning. i am flying down the expressway over the speed limit (lol) bumping the music of rapper t. i. (song: asap)
[url]http://www.youtub.com/watch? v=-bhpbyndjug
i was almost home and could damn near smell the breakfast the live in and maid prepares each morning. i almost see the fresh grass around the house. right then ran right dead smack into stand still traffic. ok i will just chill and wait this shit out no biggie.
calm before the storm
i chilling enjoying the music then i notice the radio fucking up t. i. 's voice slowly becoming distorted. i am thinking not this piece shit radio again. just then the radio returns to normal but now the car shuts down. the car has lost all power. lol. i am in standstill traffic. my car is down for the count. not 3 minutes later the traffic lets up and the other cars start moving.
belligerent natives
angry filipino drives shout shit in tagalog, blow their horn and wave their fist out the window as they fly around my car at breakneck speed. one group of guys get out and comes up to the car. don't know who the fuck they were as they asked what was wrong. i told them and they got back in their car and left. lol. i am finding the behavior of the natives to be amusing.
tow services pi style
i call the live-in and tell her i won't be making breakfast lol. something then clicks in my mind. i remember the number one car insurance company in pi that i have offer tow services. i call them and a tow truck is there is 15 minutes.
now here's where the language barrier comes into play. i ask what's going to happen now. they said some shit i didn't understand. i dial up the live-in after passing the phone to them she explains that with them they have to take the car to their office then you have to pay and from there they will bring it home.
you know in the states you can just pay the driver in pi they don't trust a mother-fucker. the head man figures he won't get his money if he let them just take the car straight to your destination of choice.
so they tow the car to the office. i am in jeans, nice shirt and sneakers now i am sweating my ass off. no power no ac. they tow us and i have pay the road toll i just paid again as they turn around and go in the opposite direction of my residence. the office is located in a secluded area out of sight of anyone. we get to office it consisted of a wooden shack.
there were a bunch of filipino males in rag-tag clothing and some filipinas. you could see they were all amused. i am sure warbucks is something they don't see every day. i knew i was about to get fleeced. always have to pay the foreigner tax.
again conversation is carried out via my expensive smart phone with live-in and office boss. he tells me 3000php ($65) for the ride to the office and the ride to the house. sounds expensive for pi but at this point i just wanted to get home.
the ride home
here am i riding through my sub-city of manila that i now know all too well with my car ass in the air in a hot ass tow truck with no ac, no windows with a filipino male with rag-tag clothes and no shoes after just coming from the fucking marriott.
get home and all the nosy neighbors come running over to find out what happened so they can have something to gossip about for the day.
this is the philippines.in the old days, before i got myself a new car with warranty etc, used to pick up a car for hire at the airport on my manila trips. i think they used hotel limos that had done 200, 000kms and then put them in the car for hire pool.
anyways, picked up my car, met ms are who had sent texts, and phone calls indicating that she was steamy and needed my young and oh so attractive body on and in hers soon as possible.
met her and was just starting to let my hands wander over her young and oh so attractive bod in 6pm traffic in edsa heading for the sogo, when drrrrr. engine died. just like warbucks i'm surrounded front back and left and right side by traffic. car was dead. as dead as man city's chances of getting in top 4 any year soon.
i'm getting the hoots, the beeps, the shouts and the black looks from everyone.
and then out of the blue, comes a tow truck. without me even saying anything he managed to back his truck in front of my car, attach the tow bar and hes taking us who knows where.
he drives down edsa, turns right onto south highway and then takes some other turns and were on a dark street thats filled with cars thats previously been towed. its the official makati city tow truck garage.
driver then tells me i owe him p 1650 as thats the official price.
well by now its 7pm and i'm on the phone to the car hire company telling them their usual piece of shit car is dead and they should come collect it and can they provide a replacement and can they pay the tow bill etc.
my chance of a great evening was diminishing as rapidly as liverpools chances of top 4 glory as the girl and i are stuck waiting for a replacement car. the tow truck guys are certainly not letting us leave till someone has paid their bill.
eventually after 3 hours a replacement car arrives, new and shiny and totally usable. (sorry sir we got lost!). they paid the tow bill and were off to sogo again, some 5 hours later than planned.
rest of evening went fine.
next morning i'm in toyota and honda showrooms checking new cars!
FreebieFan
12-23-09, 07:35
I have a very nice 24 year old friend in a province who I think genuinely likes me and has never asked me for money. Probably the hottest girl I've ever known, and dresses up for me on request in whatever fantasy I can think of. Is happier naked than clothed. She had never been to a motel before I took her there and was very insistent she had never had an orgasm before I provided that said delight for her.
Either an incredible actress or quite real. Always telling me I'm the second guy who had her. I tend to believe her.
She told me when she was 20 she was working in a department store in a province and met a "Kano who was an English teacher. One thing led to another and he took her cherry. Within a few months shes pregnant.
He claims undying love but does a runner to Vietnam.
He ends up back in California and recently married a Filipina there.
He was sending my friend US$200 per month which allowed her to pay rent, buy food, put the daughter in school clothes and pay tuition and schoolbooks, and even allowed her to chat with me every other day. She actually didn't need a job but got a lousy paying job in province to keep busy.
She would take a bus for 4 hours to meet me every Manila trip and her cervix would get well and truly rattled. Hot sizzling sex.
Typhoon Ondoy and her small rented house loses all power, all possessions flooded. Daughter gets sick from the floods, girls stays home to look after kid and loses job.
Mr "Kano, decides he's now guilt free from paying US 200 per month allowance for 4 years and decides hes not going to pay any more. Cuts her off just like that. Brave guy NOT!
I had this beautiful tearful girl on chat telling me recently that its ok if she doesn't eat, but how can she tell her daughter not only is there no gift at Christmas, no light in house still, but not much to eat either. Girl is normally happy and bright and super cheerful but in a rare down moment, she said " its ok, I grew up with no Dad (he was a playboy type) and grew up ok, my daughter can also grow up ok with no Dad"
Moral of the story. Careful where you plant your seed, and recognise your responsibilities.
(In case this reads like the girls story is to get FF to send her money, its not. In the 2 years I've known her I've given her maybe P5000 but shes been much more happy with books as shes trying to expand her vocabulary and really happy with old National Geographics as shes amazed at the photos from around the world)
Sad sort of story at Christmas but I'm sure VERY VERY common.
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Cunning Stunt
12-23-09, 08:29
As dead as Man City's chances of getting in Top 4 any year soon.
Agreed. Especially now the have binned Sparky. Now it will be a round of 'musical managers' again. They never learn.
LOL ... after spending all that dosh too.
What a pity. How sad. Never mind!!
assed out- a colorful term coined by my fellow black americans (creative bunch) that basically means to find yourself in a fucked up situation.
homeward bound
after dropping one of my girl’s off at her office i headed home. the streets of manila are empty its early morning. i am flying down the expressway over the speed limit (lol) bumping the music of rapper t.i. (song: asap)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bhpbyndjug
i was almost home and could damn near smell the breakfast the live in and maid prepares each morning. i almost see the fresh grass around the house. right then ran right dead smack into stand still traffic. ok i will just chill and wait this shit out no biggie.
calm before the storm
i am chilling enjoying the music then i notice the radio fucking up t.i.’s voice slowly becoming distorted. i am thinking not this piece shit radio again. just then the radio returns to normal but now the car shuts down. the car has lost all power. lol. i am in standstill traffic. my car is down for the count. not 3 minutes later the traffic lets up and the other cars start moving.
belligerent natives
angry filipino drives shout shit in tagalog, blow their horn and wave their fist out the window as they fly around my car at breakneck speed. one group of guys get out and comes up to the car. don’t know who the fuck they were as they asked what was wrong. i told them and they got back in their car and left. lol. i am finding the behavior of the natives to be amusing.
tow services pi style
i call the live-in and tell her i won’t be making breakfast lol. something then clicks in my mind. i remember the number one car insurance company in pi that i have offer tow services. i call them and a tow truck is there is 15 minutes.
now here’s where the language barrier comes into play. i ask what’s going to happen now. they said some shit i didn’t understand. i dial up the live-in after passing the phone to her and to them she explains that with them they have to take the car to their office then you have to pay and from there they will bring it home.
you know in the states you can just pay the driver in pi they don’t trust a mother-fucker. the head man figures he won’t get his money if he let them just take the car straight to your destination of choice.
so they tow the car to the office. i am in jeans, nice shirt and sneakers now i am sweating my ass off. no power no ac. they tow us and i have pay the road toll i just paid again as they turn around and go in the opposite direction of my residence. the office is located in a secluded area out of sight of anyone.
we get to office it consisted of a wooden shack. there were a bunch of filipino males in rag-tag clothing and some filipinas. you could see they were all amused. i am sure warbucks is something they don’t see every day. i knew i was about to get fleeced. always have to pay the foreigner tax.
again conversation is carried out via my expensive smart phone with live-in and office boss. he tells me 3000php ($65) for the ride to the office and the ride to the house. sounds expensive for pi but at this point i just wanted to get home.
the ride home
her am i riding through my sub-city of manila that i now know all too well with my car ass in the air in a hot ass tow truck with no ac, no windows with a filipino male with rag-tag clothes and no shoes after just coming from the fucking marriott.
get home and all the nosy neighbors come running over to find out what happened so they can have something to gossip about for the day.
this is the philippines.
GoodEnough
12-23-09, 08:56
Well see now WB if that had happened to you here in the more civilized city of Davao, your car would have been surrounded by 5-6 eager guys learning to earn a couple of bucks to push you to the roadside. Then one of them would have called his brother/uncle/cousin who has a towing service, and they would have taken your car wherever you wanted for Php500. Of course the "tow truck" would have been some ramshackle crappy looking truck and the "tow bar" would have been a rope that's seen better days, but it all would have worked somehow.
GE
Puerto La Cruz
12-23-09, 12:21
I hope its not a front wheel drive car.
WB, maybe you can help me here...I want to buy a house but I am not married. How did you do it. If needed pm me, but I am serious I want to buy a house, not a condo.
Thanks
Robb
Robbaff when I first saw your question I thought you were blowing smoke up my ass http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=blowing+smoke+up+my+ass
given your tenure in PI and on this board. I was going to PM you but maybe others are wondering the same.
How I did it was to get my live-in to sign a land lease deal. When I paid for the land/house a Lawyer drew up a 50 year lease (25 years with an automatic renewal for 25 years) and also another contract that the money for the purchase was lent to her by myself so should we separate she cannot kick me out as I lease the land also if she tried to get me out I would hold power of attorney on the loan and foreclose the land to get my money back.
Now keep in mind I probably have a snow ball’s chance in hell of getting my money back fighting in the courts here if my live-in ever turned into a little tornado on two legs. I knew my live for 4 years and lived with her in a first world country before I ever moved out here.
The money I invested was small to me and that’s the reason I didn’t go out and buy some little mansion due to ownership issues.
Good Enough and Shadow Axis have said It time and time again any money invested in PI… you better be prepared to lose it.
Well see now WB if that had happened to you here in the more civilized city of Davao, your car would have been surrounded by 5-6 eager guys learning to earn a couple of bucks to push you to the roadside. Then one of them would have called his brother/uncle/cousin who has a towing service, and they would have taken your car wherever you wanted for Php500. Of course the "tow truck" would have been some ramshackle crappy looking truck and the "tow bar" would have been a rope that's seen better days, but it all would have worked somehow.
GE
My ex-personal driver told me if I would have called him it would have only cost me 1000PHP LOL.
I have read a few posts re- live in girls with all the perks and have no problem paying a girl 10, 000 pesos a month plus allowances and other perks.
How much would I have to pay for a medium house a month?
I want to be close to beach, have aircon, internet and be secure.
Not too sure yet what area, cebu, subic, puerto galera?
I have no idea how much it would cost to keep a house with amenities each month.?
Any input appreciated.
Thanks
VD
That guy in California is a *******. If you get me his info., I'll contact him and tell him he better pay up, or I'll send fliers around his whole neighborhood and his workplace informing them of the kind of guy he is.
I have a very nice 24 year old friend in a province who I think genuinely likes me and has never asked me for money. Probably the hottest girl I've ever known, and dresses up for me on request in whatever fantasy I can think of. Is happier naked than clothed. She had never been to a motel before I took her there and was very insistent she had never had an orgasm before I provided that said delight for her.
Either an incredible actress or quite real. Always telling me I'm the second guy who had her. I tend to believe her.
She told me when she was 20 she was working in a department store in a province and met a "Kano who was an English teacher. One thing led to another and he took her cherry. Within a few months shes pregnant.
He claims undying love but does a runner to Vietnam.
He ends up back in California and recently married a Filipina there.
He was sending my friend US$200 per month which allowed her to pay rent, buy food, put the daughter in school clothes and pay tuition and schoolbooks, and even allowed her to chat with me every other day. She actually didn't need a job but got a lousy paying job in province to keep busy.
She would take a bus for 4 hours to meet me every Manila trip and her cervix would get well and truly rattled. Hot sizzling sex.
Typhoon Ondoy and her small rented house loses all power, all possessions flooded. Daughter gets sick from the floods, girls stays home to look after kid and loses job.
Mr "Kano, decides he's now guilt free from paying US 200 per month allowance for 4 years and decides hes not going to pay any more. Cuts her off just like that. Brave guy NOT!
I had this beautiful tearful girl on chat telling me recently that its ok if she doesn't eat, but how can she tell her daughter not only is there no gift at Christmas, no light in house still, but not much to eat either. Girl is normally happy and bright and super cheerful but in a rare down moment, she said " its ok, I grew up with no Dad (he was a playboy type) and grew up ok, my daughter can also grow up ok with no Dad"
Moral of the story. Careful where you plant your seed, and recognise your responsibilities.
(In case this reads like the girls story is to get FF to send her money, its not. In the 2 years I've known her I've given her maybe P5000 but shes been much more happy with books as shes trying to expand her vocabulary and really happy with old National Geographics as shes amazed at the photos from around the world)
Sad sort of story at Christmas but I'm sure VERY VERY common.
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I get the feeling from reading hundreds of posts that filipino neighbors are really nosy. Im going to make my virgin trip in January and stay for a month. Am I going to have a hard time with my neighbors if I'm bringing a different girl to my own condo/apartment every day?
GoodEnough
01-01-10, 00:31
I get the feeling from reading hundreds of posts that filipino neighbors are really nosy. Im going to make my virgin trip in January and stay for a month. Am I going to have a hard time with my neighbors if I'm bringing a different girl to my own condo/apartment every day?
You probably will not be given a hard time, but you'll certainly be a topic of conversation if you're living in a building or an area where there are few foreigners. There's nothing that you do that won't be noticed and discussed and there's nothing you can do--short of staying in a large hotel with lots of other expats--to avoid this situation.
Filipinos love gossip (chismis) and anything and anyone are fair game, especially foreigners. Just assume that anything you do will be noticed, no matter how discreet you think you've been.
GE
Starchild2012
01-14-10, 13:40
One in three newborns in Philippines 'unwanted'
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jtuUyaJUuZd-ZXaemEHQ_NJUiaLg
Cunning Stunt
01-25-10, 03:20
Saw a weird thing yesterday. A Filipino, obviously as mad as a hatter, was striding purposefully along Taft Avenue, completely stark, bollock naked. What was interesting was the reaction of the crowds on the sidewalks. I would have expected lots of giggling and pointing. Instead the reaction seemed to be one of studious ignorance as if a guy strolling down one of Manila’s main thoroughfares with his dangly bits exposed, was a daily occurrence. The man even passed a policeman on traffic duty at Pedro Gil, who also seemed to ignore him. I felt like the boy in the ‘Emperor New Clothes’:D.
Later, considering it and speaking to Filipinos, I concluded that the strange reaction was one of a deep seated superstitious fear of madness and the insane and that they were afraid that the guy was possessed by bad spirits.
You learn something every day, living in The Philippines.
Stroker Ace88
01-25-10, 22:22
How I did it was to get my live-in to sign a land lease deal. When I paid for the land/house a Lawyer drew up a 50 year lease (25 years with an automatic renewal for 25 years) and also another contract that the money for the purchase was lent to her by myself so should we separate she cannot kick me out as I lease the land also if she tried to get me out I would hold power of attorney on the loan and foreclose the land to get my money back.
Now keep in mind I probably have a snow ball’s chance in hell of getting my money back fighting in the courts here if my live-in ever turned into a little tornado on two legs. I knew my live for 4 years and lived with her in a first world country before I ever moved out here.
The money I invested was small to me and that’s the reason I didn’t go out and buy some little mansion due to ownership issues.
Good Enough and Shadow Axis have said It time and time again any money invested in PI… you better be prepared to lose it.
A very informative post if I do say so myself. I think alot of foreigners who have visited the Philippines have thought about home and land ownership, myself included. But with the land restrictions placed on foreigners that to the best of my knowledge we can not own the actual land or house outright and have to rely on condos or townhouses that do not rest directly on the ground level as our only means of securing a permanent residence.
Or by getting a local Filipina that you trust to sign the ownership papers, but who knows what will happen down the road if that trust and understanding you had will still exist and you stand on the street while she has the locks changed and her new local boyfriend moves in and there will not be a single thing you can do about it. Tampo knows no bounds.
So I was wondering as a means around the restrictions, could I set up an international shell corporation with myself and a few other family members as silent partners, and then buy a house and lot (or several) in the Philippines and list the buyer as that corporation. This would ensure that a foreign individual is not the sole owner of the preoperty and in the event of my demise the remaining family members which are also listed as board directors in my shell company would then be legally allowed to sell the property and liberate the funds invested, and then distribute those assets to whom I have indicated in my will.
Or is the bureaucracy that is the Philippine legal and regulatory system involve too much red tape in such a maneuver? Since my knowledge is limited of the internal workings of the Philippine can-of-worms that is there way of doing business, I will ask this general question to the more senior members of this board who have lived and spent more time in the Philippines than I have.
Can this be done? Is this a good strategy and has anyone attempted this before?
FunnyGoLucky
01-25-10, 22:28
Saw a weird thing yesterday. A Filipino, obviously as mad as a hatter, was striding purposefully along Taft Avenue, completely stark, bollock naked. What was interesting was the reaction of the crowds on the sidewalks. I would have expected lots of giggling and pointing. Instead the reaction seemed to be one of studious ignorance as if a guy strolling down one of Manila's main thoroughfares with his dangly bits exposed, was a daily occurrence. The man even passed a policeman on traffic duty at Pedro Gil, who also seemed to ignore him. I felt like the boy in the 'Emperor New Clothes'.
Later, considering it and speaking to Filipinos, I concluded that the strange reaction was one of a deep seated superstitious fear of madness and the insane and that they were afraid that the guy was possessed by bad spirits.
You learn something every day, living in The Philippines.they do not mind him because they consider him as comeing from the mountain or crazy!
FunnyGoLucky
01-25-10, 22:31
You probably will not be given a hard time, but you'll certainly be a topic of conversation if you're living in a building or an area where there are few foreigners. There's nothing that you do that won't be noticed and discussed and there's nothing you can do-short of staying in a large hotel with lots of other expats-to avoid this situation.
Filipinos love gossip (chismis) and anything and anyone are fair game, especially foreigners. Just assume that anything you do will be noticed, no matter how discreet you think you've been.
GEyou hae to bee in a bigger town like manila or cebu and use service of motel.
Do not fuck around in the place you are well knew!
Cunning Stunt
01-26-10, 04:29
So I was wondering as a means around the restrictions, could I set up an international shell corporation with myself and a few other family members as silent partners, and then buy a house and lot (or several) in the Philippines and list the buyer as that corporation.
It would have to include a Philippine national as, as the law stands now, land can only be owned or bequeathed to a Filipino. I believe that even those Filipinos who have become naturalized citizens of another country, actually forfit their right to own land in The Philippines (although most retain their Philippine passport).
When I bought my Philippine property, although it is in the name of my wife, I never expected or even anticipated recovering my capital investment myself. But the price was so good that the amount that I have saved on rent in a similar property has nearly covered the initial investment. So even if the capital could not be recovered (it can, but not directly by me), the investment was worthwhile.
Its been said before but it is wise never to invest money, in land, in The Philippines, that you may need to recover, in a hurry, in the future or indeed at all.
Stroker Ace88
01-26-10, 06:41
It would have to include a Philippine national as, as the law stands now, land can only be owned or bequeathed to a Filipino. I believe that even those Filipinos who have become naturalized citizens of another country, actually forfit their right to own land in The Philippines (although most retain their Philippine passport).
When I bought my Philippine property, although it is in the name of my wife, I never expected or even anticipated recovering my capital investment myself.
Cunning Stunt,
Good info. I did not know that Filipinos who become naturalized citizens of another country lose the right to own property within the Philippines. Does this also apply to duel citizens?
Cunning Stunt
01-27-10, 02:25
Good info. I did not know that Filipinos who become naturalized citizens of another country lose the right to own property within the Philippines. Does this also apply to duel citizens?
Not sure but I would think not. There is a limited number of countries where folk are officially allowed to hold duel citizenship with The Philippines although I believe that this now includes the US
Cunning Stunt,
Good info. I did not know that Filipinos who become naturalized citizens of another country lose the right to own property within the Philippines. Does this also apply to duel citizens?Sorry, not correct:
At present, Philippine laws grant dual citizenship to any former Filipino. Hence, that issue does not pose a problem to her anymore.
Radical Guy
01-28-10, 13:10
Sorry, not correct:
At present, Philippine laws grant dual citizenship to any former Filipino. Hence, that issue does not pose a problem to her anymore.Actually, to a limited degree, a naturalized US citizen can own some land in the Philippines WITHOUT obtaining dual citizenship. I saw the following on the Philippine Embassy's Los Angeles Consulate website:
Can I acquire real property in the Philippines even if I am already a naturalized American citizen?
Any natural-born citizen who has lost his Philippine citizenship may acquire a private land up to a maximum area of five thousand (5,000) square meters in the case of urban land or three (3) hectares in the case of rural land to be used by him/her for business or other purposes. In the case of married couples, one of them may avail of the privilege herein granted (please see Republic. Act 8179, Sec 10).
http://www.philippineconsulatela.org/FAQS-MAIN.htm#a1
Puerto La Cruz
02-01-10, 04:02
i have rtff but can't seem to find out how long it would take to get cable tv and high speed internet in a makati condo that is set up for that. is it a matter of days or weeks? one connection will be sufficient. and price? gotta narrow expenses down in the next few months cuz the next trip will be a long one.
Not sure but I would think not. There is a limited number of countries where folk are officially allowed to hold duel citizenship with The Philippines although I believe that this now includes the US
Just flew in to manila yesterday. In the immigration form it says any person can stay in Philippines indefinitely under the "Create jobs program".
To qualify you need to employ min of 10 Philippino workers. It does not say in what position you can hire employees. Even if you have a any business as long as you can show ten people are working for you, you qualify. So I guess foreigners can start business in their own name and can own land , house etc.
This is a good time even to open a bar without the hassle of requirement to have a Philippino partener.
As usual if anybody is thinking of doing this should consult a lawyer because what new rule says may have certain limitations. Knowing Philippine beuracracy this could be a minefield.
Cunning Stunt
02-01-10, 09:53
Just flew in to manila yesterday. In the immigration form it says any person can stay in Philippines indefinitely under the "Create jobs program".
That visa has been around for a while Sammon, but I don't think that it will bestow the right to own land in The Philippines.
As you rightly say, make sure that you read the small print before investing in any business here.
Any natural-born citizen who has lost his Philippine citizenship may acquire a private land...
Think that means a natural born citizen of the US who was born in the Philippines and hence has the right now of dual citizenship.
Cunning Stunt
02-01-10, 10:02
i have rtff but can't seem to find out how long it would take to get cable tv and high speed internet in a makati condo that is set up for that. is it a matter of days or weeks? one connection will be sufficient. and price? gotta narrow expenses down in the next few months cuz the next trip will be a long one.
you will be astonished how quick and efficient the cable and internet companies can be here in the philippines when it comes to a new customer. they will often come out and install the same day or if not, the following day.
its for after sales service where things tend to become a little more pedestrian!
I'm curious as to how many of you guys who live in the Philippines actually have a family with kids AND bed bargirls far away from where you live... for instance if you live with your family and kids in Davao but monger in Cebu or AC. or if you live in AC with your family and monger in Cebu. How do you all do it? Is it easy breezy or freaking hard??
Superman06
02-20-10, 01:52
I'm curious as to how many of you guys who live in the Philippines actually have a family with kids AND bed bargirls far away from where you live... for instance if you live with your family and kids in Davao but monger in Cebu or AC. or if you live in AC with your family and monger in Cebu. How do you all do it? Is it easy breezy or freaking hard??
I don't live in the Philippines but the scenario you ask about is universal. People who monger on a regular basis and are married have jobs that make it possible to do so. I used to see a guy in San Jose,CR whom I considered to be the married master monger of all time(not including Tiger of course). He lived in Long Beach, CA and was married with 3 kids. He was involved with an international condo developer. His job took him to CR on a regular basis, up to two weeks every other month. Though he usually went to various places in CR he also sometimes spent time in Thailand. He told me he dearly loved his family but he was also a lifetime horndog. Sadly because of the economy his company isn't getting involved with any new projects, so his travel has been drastically reduced. :(
So I think the deal is, if you want that lifestyle you have to develop a situation that makes it possible. My solution is to never get committed with any woman ever again. This is more fun. :)
I don't live in the Philippines but the scenario you ask about is universal. People who monger on a regular basis and are married have jobs that make it possible to do so.
So I think the deal is, if you want that lifestyle you have to develop a situation that makes it possible. My solution is to never get committed with any woman ever again. This is more fun. :)
Great answer, Superman! So, I am very active in my community here and pretty much wherever I go. I volunteer very often. So, that will be my excuse. haha! It should work. I'll just make sure I don't hang out with my volunteer associates after we finish our projects. Almost all of the people I volunteer with everywhere I go are goody-two shoes who would surely report my activities if they found out about it. thanks.
Later, considering it and speaking to Filipinos, I concluded that the strange reaction was one of a deep seated superstitious fear of madness and the insane and that they were afraid that the guy was possessed by bad spirits.
hmm... I don't know about that. What if the guy was a foreigner. All the superstitions would go out the window, I think. ;) Lucky bastard though, I'd say. I'd love to be able to walk around naked. I want to venture to Cap D'agde, France but I don't know if I can live with myself after spending that much money to travel there only to walk around nude.
Cunning Stunt
02-20-10, 13:32
hmm... I don't know about that. What if the guy was a foreigner. All the superstitions would go out the window, I think. ;)
I suspect that if it had been a foreigner, he wouldn't have got 20 yards before being pounced upon by outraged citizenry. Because he was a poor, insane Filipino, he was able to walk nearly the whole of Taft from O'Campo (where I first passed him on the bus that I was riding at the time) to Pedro Gil where I left the bus and he passed by 5 minutes later, going a fair canter.
What astonished me was the tolerance with which his prolonged streak was received.
I'm curious as to how many of you guys who live in the Philippines actually have a family with kids AND bed bargirls far away from where you live... for instance if you live with your family and kids in Davao but monger in Cebu or AC. or if you live in AC with your family and monger in Cebu. How do you all do it? Is it easy breezy or freaking hard??
Damned easy in Manila but the place is so big and impersonal as most Capital cities are but I imagine it would be much harder in smaller cities such as Cebu or Davao and dicing with death in Angeles or any other provincial city/town.
When I lived in the provinces, I restricted my mongering exploits to when I visited Manila.
Damned easy in Manila but the place is so big and impersonal as most Capital cities are but I imagine it would be much harder in smaller cities such as Cebu or Davao and dicing with death in Angeles or any other provincial city/town.
When I lived in the provinces, I restricted my mongering exploits to when I visited Manila.
So, restrict the mongering to Manila. Ok gotcha. I thought AC would be ok too but I understand what you're saying since I have been to both Manila and AC already. People knew who I was in AC after me being there for only something like 2 days and I kinda liked that personal feel that AC has but that's one thing I didn't like about Manila was that it was so impersonal and huge and dirty. But, on the other hand, that should definitely work in my favor for what I will be doing there in the future. :)
Cunning Stunt
02-21-10, 03:57
So, restrict the mongering to Manila. Ok gotcha. I thought AC would be ok too but I understand what you're saying since I have been to both Manila and AC already.
Its easy to lose yourself in the big city, where nobody is sticking their noses into your business (a favorite Filipino hobby) and it is most unlikely you will meet anyone from your 'non-mongering' life. Plus its easy to justify trips to the capital .. i.e immigration, business etc. I did, of course, make short side trips to Angeles on occasions;).
Oh, the tangled webs that we weave .....(ought to be the married mongers mantra).
Things are far easier now that I live in Manila.
I wondering, though, whether in your case it is worth it for a mere hand job:).
Marconista
02-21-10, 10:57
lolz, yeah. As what laylow wrote in one of his original posts.
Why not just build a bigger house, make it either a guest house/motel or even an orphanage for ladies 18-25yo? And you start to teach them knitting condoms or something.
In the end it will be a great brothel, where laylow can invite us (for a fee).
I wondering, though, whether in your case it is worth it for a mere hand job:).
Things are far easier now that I live in Manila.CS, just curious . . . do you find that living in Manila and presumably getting used to it makes the place any more pleasant -- no, that's not the right word, but maybe tolerable? I ask because I've been there many times over the past 25 years but always found that the grime and sleaze and traffic and chaos wore me down after a week or so. Yet the place intrigues me, and not only because it's clearly one of the great pussy capitals of the world. I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd be interested to hear your reactions to living there for a while. In short, does it get any easier and better?
CS, just curious . . . do you find that living in Manila and presumably getting used to it makes the place any more pleasant -- no, that's not the right word, but maybe tolerable? I ask because I've been there many times over the past 25 years but always found that the grime and sleaze and traffic and chaos wore me down after a week or so. Yet the place intrigues me, and not only because it's clearly one of the great pussy capitals of the world. I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd be interested to hear your reactions to living there for a while. In short, does it get any easier and better?I hated Manila when I first moved out here. The traffic the smog the dirt but now I couldn't see myself living anywhere else in PI. The place is home. I have been to Cebu and Angeles. There is just something about the place for me. There always something to do or to get into. Comedy bars, live bands. The KTVs such as Pegasus. Hordes of girls walking the streets at night.
Sham of amusement park (Star City) Bonifacio High Street, The Mall Of Asia and some of the best hotels and restaurants in the country. If you looking for the quiet life in Manila they have some Sub Divisions where you can hear a mouse [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on cotton and are pristine free of trash and other unpleasant shit to look at not from Burgos, EDSA, Roxas BL etc.
Cunning Stunt
02-22-10, 03:44
CS, just curious . . . do you find that living in Manila and presumably getting used to it makes the place any more pleasant -- no, that's not the right word, but maybe tolerable? I ask because I've been there many times over the past 25 years but always found that the grime and sleaze and traffic and chaos wore me down after a week or so. Yet the place intrigues me, and not only because it's clearly one of the great pussy capitals of the world. I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd be interested to hear your reactions to living there for a while. In short, does it get any easier and better?
Warbucks answered for me (now there's a first!). Like him I live in subdivision which is a million miles away from the picture that you probably envisage of Manila urban living. Its quiet, green and very clean and has its own security force. So the horrible conditions that you observe in Malate and to a lesser extent Makati are not the living conditions for the majority of middle class suburbanites living in subdivs.
Also like him I've become fond of Manila, warts and all. She might be a ugly old hag but she sure gives a mighty fine blowjob;).
Warbucks answered for me (now there's a first!). Like him I live in subdivision which is a million miles away from the picture that you probably envisage of Manila urban living. Its quiet, green and very clean and has its own security force. So the horrible conditions that you observe in Malate and to a lesser extent Makati are not the living conditions for the majority of middle class suburbanites living in subdivs.
Also like him I've become fond of Manila, warts and all. She might be a ugly old hag but she sure gives a mighty fine blowjob;).Awww, How cute. You guys (Cunning Stunt, Warbucks) are like brothers, who hate each other that play the same sport. You guys should buy each other drinks and hug it out. LOL
Seriously, all due respect. You guys have posted some fine ass girls in Manila Homie.
Peace
Warbucks answered for me (now there's a first!).Cheers -- the subdivision thing was the missing piece for me. I've been coming to Manila since the early '80s and don't think I've ever been in one!
Cheers -- the subdivision thing was the missing piece for me. I've been coming to Manila since the early '80s and don't think I've ever been in one!It's really something to behold. The contrast is ridiculous. You drive through the numerous sub-cities of Metro Manila and see the dirt, the squatters, the Trikes, Jeepneys, guys pissing on the street, the homeless, the shirtless etc. Then you pass the heavily armed gates of your subdivision and just like that your scenery is transformed into Gigantic houses, rolling lawns, empty lots of plush green, American standard paved roads, trash free streets, no Jeepneys allowed and best of all silence.
. . . no Jeepneys allowedAre there at least taxis around when you want to go out, or are these places aimed more toward people with their own transport?
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