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Sardaukar1
11-11-10, 07:23
I have been in that exact situation. The all-you-can-drink red wine is definitely fake.
I suggest going with canned beer when in China KTV. A DJ friend once told me that while bottled beer can be faked easily, it is much harder technically to fake canned beer.
Many times, I get a real bad headache when I drink red wine in CP. I mean really bad headache that night and the following day. In China everything can be made fake, even baby milk powder formula, I bet you that the alcohol we consume can also be fake as well, or at least modified to save them cost.
i'm back home but must post my final two days....
day 7
out to fu hao - but before that i am hooked on mei bao so get if i recall - girl with big knockers - girl 95- great service but rushed on my part to hit the ktv in time for flower.... interview in flower and find a girl willing to go 3 rounds (yeah right - no way for me after two pops at mei bao...) and committed to bj. - i sign her up and race down for the sweetie that i also liked. back in room i release sweetie who has a bit of a cold and seems a bit of downer... 100 rmb since i'm such a nice guy and want the good karma lol...
my girl, she liy - is a little handful - her friend - wen si is even more of a handful and a tight four foot eleven pocket rocket... more on her later..some dice games and even strip dice and wen si and her date get damn near naked ...rocking night at fu hao ! i arrange for next nite a double with wen si and she liy - that inevitably goes bad when first wen si cancels due to big swinging malaysians in town and then later next nite i learn that she liy is a no show probably due to same big swinging malaysians rollin into town. regardless, day 7 is success with rabid she liy at nite for a pop and pop in the am...
day 8
back to mei bao after some work - late late and mayflower flower show is early early !! i choose this skinny little rocket at mei bao whose only english is "oh my god". not to worry sweetie - i've only got 75 minutes so make me pop twice with love and care and you will be in lineups an hour early....win win and she knows it !
flower at mayflower where despite the approx 800 girls, my interview questions of "will you kiss my little brother deeply and a lot", and will you go three times if you stay long time" emit shudders and giggles from so many girls with very few takers.... one thing i did learn - took me 8 darn days ! was not to hide my ipod questions from the nosy mommies peeking.... these mommies are smart cookies and when a few of them saw my requirements they were sure to accost me with selections that fit my bill. i go upstairs with a slutty yoyo type / she liy type as well as a girl next door type who swears she is good with my list.
slutty girl is all show - no class spills drink on girl next door and that was it for me- as well, jetsetter noticed that slutty girl is not ticklish at all and gives the dr. jim theory..... i'm all ears. take girl next door out for walk and we make out in hallway.... on our return to room - you know you have a good party rolling when mayflower staff are peeking in room like schoolboys ... too funny.
slutty girl sees us back in room knows something went terribly terribly wrong and the pouting begins. i play it for a while and then finally release her. take whirl next door who is damn perfect body - thin and well proportioned - a little tall.... we grab a few dvds as i am leaving next day and back in room.... i shower wear my towel and do some work on computer when she comes out with robe covering the lingerie and black stockings i hung for her in shower... we may out standing - i open her robe. more make out and caressing and she drops to knees for long extended mouth only "look ma- no hands" blow job... followed by multiple positions... i honestly wanted to pop quicker to let the poor lass of easy but it took a bit...
repeat in morning after we snuggled and used qq translator - i told her if i had met her day 1 it would have been scary for me as she has me hooked and now i leave.... man...... still hooked..... and thinking about return....
am comes and i race for 800 private van from hui hua. to hkg airport that is ridiculously convenient. i arrive at airport at around 10.
my action over 8 days: day 1: 5 pops, day 2: 4, day 3:3, day 4: 2, day 5: 3 pops, day 6: 2 pops, day 7 and 8: 4 pops each... total over 8 days 27 !
been back almost two weeks, and yes it is too much information, but besides some "morning wood" no drive at all...nada...maybe after all that delicate pussy my dick is a little more discriminating for a while.... that and a couple of the slutty girls (eg yoyo) gave me aclittle paranoia to get tested...all good (whew).
thta's my rambling travelogue..... will do one more oust with some learnings that may help others (eg leveraging the mommies in ktvs etc...) and already planning a sneak away for two to four days.... just gotta make it work with time and $$.
take care all.
d23
many thanks to asndragon's informative posts about saunas. i should have heeded the advice that hui hua sauna girls are lazy - - i only have myself to blame even though i did rtff !!
off to mei bao for "relaxing" day 6. incredible little hidden gem. i'm sure the newbie would need help locating it - - i found it by luck despite researching it - - any spot accessible via a parking garage has to be a gem ! (in fact i entered via snooker club, despite protestations from others there is no sauna here - i spotted guys with giveaway headsets and made my reservation for later.
girl 95 - - spinner with huge rack - - she was relieved i didn't take her - - i save her for day 7 i'm thinking.... go with girl 136 - she speaks some english - perfect combination of skinny fit body and ample rack.
bbbj to sloppy completion ("sorry sorry" - - no worries baby...) off to massive shower room with steam facility, and waterbed soapy cushioned table. awesome catbath complete with trimmings though i note no trimmings on her - - she has the hairiest armpits i have ever seen ! (i honestly thought it was a dark tattoo) - and then her bush hung longer than my balls. crazy.
i skip fs worried a little about what rodents might be hiding in there, and worried about her pussy hairs scrubbing my body like a coarse scrub brush.
in to room for more routine - - another sloppy bbbj and satisfaction.
130 minutes - she was a dancer so total damage 588.
awesome experience - i need to try to go again.
place is packed fri sat sun so make sure you have it lined up in advance.
til later.
d23
Ok, I won't order the all inclusive package for Fuhao. But I'm not sure why I 'may' end up with a bill of 3000 rmb for two guys? Given Andrew Lowas report they have a total of 7 guys who drank 84 bottles of bud for 900 for a total of 1280 rmb?
Let say I order every thing a la carte: 200 for the DJ. Lets say I drink 2 dozen and I get 1 dozen free (how much for a dozen usually?) I can pay for that. Tissue fees (how much?). And the fruit platter (how much?). Nuts (how much) plus 10-15% service charge? (can I negotiate this?) Tell them no mommies, vendors selling shit and drinkers coming in(maybe I will allow the professional drinkers in if I can't finish the 3 dozen all by myself) So not counting the sitting fees. For two guys. I can walk out of there for under 1000?
Could you clarify the "ladies drink" you have to buy them otherwise they will get fined? Does it mean when the girls drink my beer, they will charge me more? Can't I just say I don't want to buy you a drink?
I have been in SZ several times with locals, but I haven't been to CP. Just want to clarify some things before I head out there. If someone could just break down a normal KTV bill by price that would be great, or even a snapshot of the bill.
CP141,
I wouldn't recommend just going up to Fuhao and asking for an all inclusive package. If KTVs know that you are a newbie, they will usually upcharge you because they know you don't know their establishment's pricing structure. This has happened to me several times at KTVs all around CP, Dongguan towns and other places in China.
In my experience, places like Mayflower would take advantage of you. Mommies and managers come in and drink up all of your alcohol so you have to order more. Girls have a requirement of 1 drink a day or they will be fined 15 rmb, they in turn will try to coax you to buy them 1 drink. The list goes on and on and you end up with a bill of $3000 plus RMB bill at the end of the night for only 2-3 guys and you're wondering what happened. Don't get ripped off.
It's better if you go with a veteran and he'll show you the ropes and you can get a feel for what to do if you want to go solo. BSD can show you around, he's got parties all the time set up.
AsnDragon
Jettsetter
11-11-10, 11:06
Hey guys,
Four white guys and three local friends out in town, decided to book a room at mayflower. We all decided to go with beer rather than wine or the hard stuff.
Some guys were sitting two girls. So a total of 16/17 people in room. It was getting crowded but that's the way we like it.
Fuhao's minimum charge for the room is around around 700 to 800rmb. We went well over that so it was no worries.
We ordered two fruit plates and a whole bunch of snacks (180rmb)
We had one host/dj (200Rmb)
Fuhao has this deal where you order two dozen of beer, you get one dozen free. I have come across this at a few KTV's, can anyone verify that this is avaliable at ALL KTV's? Or just the few that I have been to. I have noticed this at mayflower as well and another place call Vanables KTV, Clipper KTV has this deal as well?
We ordered four dozen and got two free. At the end of the evening, the guys wanted some more beer so we got another dozen, Totaling 900 for beer for 84 bottles of bud.
Total bill among 7 guys was 1280rmb, well under 190 per person. We had a blast and still had beer left over at 2am.
Andrew Lowa
I guess you guys did it right... but it's just a bit weird that you managed to get a room to fit 17 people and only one DJ... how much was each beer? traditionally they're like 35-38RMB per bottle - at 4 dozen, that's already 1824, add another dozen it's 456 - that's a total of 2,280 (not 900) but then again... the rate you're quote is 15 rmb per bottle.. i don't think that's the charge you get at Mayflower - (so is this some special deal/package that you get?? because I don't know about it and would love to find out how to get 15 rmb per bottle AND get free beer as well)...
at 2280 + 180 + 220 = 2680 / 7 guys that's over 300 RMB ... but this is assuming beer is 35-38 RMB per bottle... (which I think is pretty normal)..
So just fill us in on how you get 15 RMB a bottle.. that'd REALLY be great if you showed us how to swing that deal...
-Jett
Yeah thats a super deal. How do we get something like that?
I guess you guys did it right. But it's just a bit weird that you managed to get a room to fit 17 people and only one DJ. How much was each beer? Traditionally they're like 35-38RMB per bottle. At 4 dozen, that's already 1824, add another dozen it's 456. That's a total of 2, 280 (not 900) but then again. The rate you're quote is 15 rmb per bottle. I don't think that's the charge you get at Mayflower. (so is this some special deal/package that you get? Because I don't know about it and would love to find out how to get 15 rmb per bottle AND get free beer as well).
At 2280 + 180 + 220 = 2680 / 7 guys that's over 300 RMB. But this is assuming beer is 35-38 RMB per bottle. (which I think is pretty normal).
So just fill us in on how you get 15 RMB a bottle. That'd REALLY be great if you showed us how to swing that deal.
-Jett
Meiguoguizi
11-11-10, 13:53
My action over 8 days: day 1: 5 pops, day 2: 4, Day 3:3, day 4: 2, day 5: 3 pops, day 6: 2 pops, day 7 and 8: 4 pops each... Total over 8 days 27 !
That and a couple of the slutty girls (eg yoyo) gave me aclittle paranoia to get tested...all good (whew).
D23
Dude, if you barebacked everyone... get thee to a clinic again in 3 months...
Excellent report Andrew. keep it up.
Hey guys,
Four white guys and three local friends out in town, decided to book a room at mayflower. We all decided to go with beer rather than wine or the hard stuff.
Some guys were sitting two girls. So a total of 16/17 people in room. It was getting crowded but that's the way we like it.
Fuhao's minimum charge for the room is around around 700 to 800rmb. We went well over that so it was no worries.
We ordered two fruit plates and a whole bunch of snacks (180rmb)
We had one host/dj (200Rmb)
Fuhao has this deal where you order two dozen of beer, you get one dozen free. I have come across this at a few KTV's, can anyone verify that this is avaliable at ALL KTV's? Or just the few that I have been to. I have noticed this at mayflower as well and another place call Vanables KTV, Clipper KTV has this deal as well?
We ordered four dozen and got two free. At the end of the evening, the guys wanted some more beer so we got another dozen, Totaling 900 for beer for 84 bottles of bud.
Total bill among 7 guys was 1280rmb, well under 190 per person. We had a blast and still had beer left over at 2am.
Andrew Lowa
Robertsui321
11-11-10, 14:17
Well, we went to Mayflower in Oct 2010 on our own and we are newbies. The trick was to ask what the TOTAL all in bills upfront very clearly. I was told some people even ask for the final bill and paid it at the start of the KTV, and then tell the Manager not to disturb them any more, no outside food, no toys, etc. Don't even come in at all. Can someone comment if this works generally. It worked for us.
QUOTE=AsnDragon]CP141,
I wouldn't recommend just going up to Fuhao and asking for an all inclusive package. If KTVs know that you are a newbie, they will usually upcharge you because they know you don't know their establishment's pricing structure. This has happened to me several times at KTVs all around CP, Dongguan towns and other places in China.
In my experience, places like Mayflower would take advantage of you. Mommies and managers come in and drink up all of your alcohol so you have to order more. Girls have a requirement of 1 drink a day or they will be fined 15 rmb, they in turn will try to coax you to buy them 1 drink. The list goes on and on and you end up with a bill of $3000 plus RMB bill at the end of the night for only 2-3 guys and you're wondering what happened. Don't get ripped off.
It's better if you go with a veteran and he'll show you the ropes and you can get a feel for what to do if you want to go solo. BSD can show you around, he's got parties all the time set up.
AsnDragon[/QUOTE]
Robertsui321
11-11-10, 14:23
I asked my gal to buy a bottle of Great Wall red wine from a big shop along the streets of CP. the bill was RMB38. It tasted normal and quite good actually, no headaches at all for all 4 of us. It was quite a big bottle. Mayflower charged us RMB300 to 400 for the same bottle of red wine. JUst buy etablished brands from big shops, I think its OK.
I'm beginning to think that the alcohol that is sold in these KTV establishment is fake, or some watered down, with additional cheaper additives mixed inside of them.
I don't see how you can have an all you can drink red or white wine special for that price.
As we all know, especially Santa knows, the beer they sell at that street vendor stand that sells oysters across from Swan Lake, they sold their beers so cheap to the point it was ridiculous. You have to start suspecting that the alcohol is somewhat fishy.
Many times, I get a real bad headache when I drink red wine in CP. I mean really bad headache that night and the following day. In China everything can be made fake, even baby milk powder formula, I bet you that the alcohol we consume can also be fake as well, or at least modified to save them cost.
AsnDragon
Blacklisted
11-11-10, 14:44
u can guarantee it's fake. 100% fake. A bartender friend of mine told me basically all the booze is fake apart from
single malt whiskey.
I'm beginning to think that the alcohol that is sold in these KTV establishment is fake, or some watered down, with additional cheaper additives mixed inside of them.
I don't see how you can have an all you can drink red or white wine special for that price.
As we all know, especially Santa knows, the beer they sell at that street vendor stand that sells oysters across from Swan Lake, they sold their beers so cheap to the point it was ridiculous. You have to start suspecting that the alcohol is somewhat fishy.
Many times, I get a real bad headache when I drink red wine in CP. I mean really bad headache that night and the following day. In China everything can be made fake, even baby milk powder formula, I bet you that the alcohol we consume can also be fake as well, or at least modified to save them cost.
AsnDragon
Dude, if you barebacked everyone... get thee to a clinic again in 3 months...
snicker...meiguoguizi, you naughty boy....
Yeah, protect yourself lest you want junk circulating around and in your member.
Who's willing to take a snap shot of the bill? We can go "price matching" like what we do at fatwallet and walmart. Hahahaa
Well, we went to Mayflower in Oct 2010 on our own and we are newbies. The trick was to ask what the TOTAL all in bills upfront very clearly. I was told some people even ask for the final bill and paid it at the start of the KTV, and then tell the Manager not to disturb them any more, no outside food, no toys, etc. Don't even come in at all. Can someone comment if this works generally. It worked for us.
QUOTE=AsnDragon]CP141,
I wouldn't recommend just going up to Fuhao and asking for an all inclusive package. If KTVs know that you are a newbie, they will usually upcharge you because they know you don't know their establishment's pricing structure. This has happened to me several times at KTVs all around CP, Dongguan towns and other places in China.
In my experience, places like Mayflower would take advantage of you. Mommies and managers come in and drink up all of your alcohol so you have to order more. Girls have a requirement of 1 drink a day or they will be fined 15 rmb, they in turn will try to coax you to buy them 1 drink. The list goes on and on and you end up with a bill of $3000 plus RMB bill at the end of the night for only 2-3 guys and you're wondering what happened. Don't get ripped off.
It's better if you go with a veteran and he'll show you the ropes and you can get a feel for what to do if you want to go solo. BSD can show you around, he's got parties all the time set up.
AsnDragon[/QUOTE]
2/5/8,
200 = sitting fee with the girl for the night.
500 = short time , one shot with the girl at your hotel room.
800 = long time, multiple shot over night at your hotel room.
Hi,
I'm not familiar with that term, what does it mean?
Thanks
How do hotel massages floors work? they seem to have hotel like rooms, and i think different levels of girls.
I have no idea what happens and costs in these places.
CP141,
Mayflower and Jiayi have this same policy they have for all the girls. They are required to make their customer order 1 drink for them. It's a daily quota. The drink is usually something that's not what you have already ordered. A glass of Milk, a glass of OJ, a glass of milk tea etc. This costs 15 rmb. No big deal, but it get annoying. Imagine you choose 3 girls per guy and there's 7 guys, that's 21 girls times 15 rmb that's= 315 RMB.
Anyhow no biggie, but sometimes, not always, a lot of KTV take advantage of you when you are new. unless you check your bill every 10 mins or your DJ is nice.
AsnDragon
Ok, I won't order the all inclusive package for Fuhao. But I'm not sure why I 'may' end up with a bill of 3000 rmb for two guys? Given Andrew Lowas report they have a total of 7 guys who drank 84 bottles of bud for 900 for a total of 1280 rmb?
Let say I order every thing a la carte: 200 for the DJ. Lets say I drink 2 dozen and I get 1 dozen free (how much for a dozen usually?) I can pay for that. Tissue fees (how much?). And the fruit platter (how much?). Nuts (how much) plus 10-15% service charge? (can I negotiate this?) Tell them no mommies, vendors selling shit and drinkers coming in(maybe I will allow the professional drinkers in if I can't finish the 3 dozen all by myself) So not counting the sitting fees. For two guys. I can walk out of there for under 1000?
Could you clarify the "ladies drink" you have to buy them otherwise they will get fined? Does it mean when the girls drink my beer, they will charge me more? Can't I just say I don't want to buy you a drink?
I have been in SZ several times with locals, but I haven't been to CP. Just want to clarify some things before I head out there. If someone could just break down a normal KTV bill by price that would be great, or even a snapshot of the bill.
Dude:
Didn't bareback any of the girls FS... I'm assuming that is what you are referring to -- did BBBJ pretty much all of them.
Just paranoid in general as BBBJ has considerably lower risk.
Thanks though - and do advise if I have seriously underestimated BBBJ risks...
D23
Dude, if you barebacked everyone... get thee to a clinic again in 3 months...
Jettsetter
11-12-10, 07:09
Ok, I won't order the all inclusive package for Fuhao. But I'm not sure why I 'may' end up with a bill of 3000 rmb for two guys? Given Andrew Lowas report they have a total of 7 guys who drank 84 bottles of bud for 900 for a total of 1280 rmb?
Let say I order every thing a la carte: 200 for the DJ. Lets say I drink 2 dozen and I get 1 dozen free (how much for a dozen usually?) I can pay for that. Tissue fees (how much?). And the fruit platter (how much?). Nuts (how much) plus 10-15% service charge? (can I negotiate this?) Tell them no mommies, vendors selling shit and drinkers coming in(maybe I will allow the professional drinkers in if I can't finish the 3 dozen all by myself) So not counting the sitting fees. For two guys. I can walk out of there for under 1000?
Could you clarify the "ladies drink" you have to buy them otherwise they will get fined? Does it mean when the girls drink my beer, they will charge me more? Can't I just say I don't want to buy you a drink?
I have been in SZ several times with locals, but I haven't been to CP. Just want to clarify some things before I head out there. If someone could just break down a normal KTV bill by price that would be great, or even a snapshot of the bill.
Two guys - yes, you totally can get out of there for under 1000 easy...
Okay, so here's the breakdown... first of all, the costs are usually in the beer... let's say you order 1 dozen and get 6 free.. that's 18 beers for 2 of you... plus let's say 1 girl each - so that's 4 people drinking 18 beers...
It depends on how hard you party, but let's say a bottle is 35 RMB x 12 = 420 now we have a DJ - 200, fruits, Tissue, etc.. let's say it's another 150 RMB - obviously bigger rooms have more fruits, etc... then add on a 10% service charge...
The total is about 420+200+150 = 770 RMB. Now keep in mind, that's order just one dozen, an extra dozen will cost you another 420 (you'll get 18 beers), and you'll be at 1190... or I guess yo ucan order just half a dozen and get 9 beers - 210 - that's 980... you'll have 27 beers at that price for 4 people... that's enough... but if you take additional gals, i.e. 2 per person, then you'll need more beers.
So in the end, it's all about how much you want to drink...
There are MANY times when we've done things like - NOT ORDERED ANY ALCOHOL (yes, dare I say?) We just ordered food, drinks got to the minimum, then took off...
We brought in a DVD Player and watched a movie in the DVD room - that was definitely a different experience and the girls actually enjoyed it.. (this was abck in the day at HH - some of the guys on this board will remember) - Apocolypto was a perfect movie for that, becasue tehre was barely ANY dialogue...
So there are a TON of options... I've even seen guys walk into Mayflower, pick a girl and go out to the hotel and party - they had to pay like 100 RMB Fine for taking them early, but that was well worth not having to party in the KTV room.. but that also guaranteed the girl 500 at least... no option to send home for 200...
Simple general rule though... the more guys the cheaper.. because you can share in the SHARED costs.. Less guys, the more it is... although I think it's more like the difference between 2 and 5 guys... at 5 guys you can still get just one DJ.. anymore than that, you may be looking at 2.. but if you can swing it.. just stick to one DJ and don't ***** if the beer isn't being poured at your leisure... also give the DJ something extra (300 instead of 200) so you can still save some money but reward her for having to service so many people at once...
When it gets to be alot.. the ratio will depend on how many girls, how many hard core drinkers there are... people that order food. etc. etc. etc...
I've found it very intersting the dynamics of KTVing and how the mood, fun, value has been over time... seroiusly it's really interesting...
I have plenty of theories on making a perfect party... and rooms that are and not as fun, etc... but everyone has their own definition of fun...
Have fun, see you at the mini reunion at the end of Nov!!
-Jett
Sardaukar1
11-12-10, 07:17
Could you clarify the "ladies drink" you have to buy them otherwise they will get fined? Does it mean when the girls drink my beer, they will charge me more? Can't I just say I don't want to buy you a drink.Well yeah of course you can refuse to buy her a drink. But let's say you really like the girl and want to bring her back for a good time overnight -- would you really want to risk turning her into a bad mood over a measly 15rmb?
The snacks/drinks usually cost more than 15rmb... if I really don't want to order them, I usually just pay the Mayflower girl the 15rmb to cover the fine.
Excellent breakdown of costs. However how did Andrew get down to 15 rmb for beer? I am eager to find out. Would befriending a manager work in this case? Or should I negotiate with the mommy? Perhaps tipping the dj to get the real lowdown on how this work. I'll be flying in Christmas and new years so hopefully we can meet up and party. BTW I'm ABC.. Nice to meet you guys
Two guys. Yes, you totally can get out of there for under 1000 easy.
Okay, so here's the breakdown. First of all, the costs are usually in the beer. Let's say you order 1 dozen and get 6 free. That's 18 beers for 2 of you. Plus let's say 1 girl each. So that's 4 people drinking 18 beers.
It depends on how hard you party, but let's say a bottle is 35 RMB x 12 = 420 now we have a DJ. 200, fruits, Tissue, etc. Let's say it's another 150 RMB. Obviously bigger rooms have more fruits, etc. Then add on a 10% service charge.
The total is about 420+200+150 = 770 RMB. Now keep in mind, that's order just one dozen, an extra dozen will cost you another 420 (you'll get 18 beers), and you'll be at 1190. Or I guess yo ucan order just half a dozen and get 9 beers. 210. That's 980. You'll have 27 beers at that price for 4 people. That's enough. But if you take additional gals, I. E. 2 per person, then you'll need more beers.
So in the end, it's all about how much you want to drink.
There are MANY times when we've done things like. Not ordered any alcohol (yes, dare I say?) We just ordered food, drinks got to the minimum, then took off.
We brought in a DVD Player and watched a movie in the DVD room. That was definitely a different experience and the girls actually enjoyed it. (this was abck in the day at HH. Some of the guys on this board will remember). Apocolypto was a perfect movie for that, becasue tehre was barely ANY dialogue.
So there are a TON of options. I've even seen guys walk into Mayflower, pick a girl and go out to the hotel and party. They had to pay like 100 RMB Fine for taking them early, but that was well worth not having to party in the KTV room. But that also guaranteed the girl 500 at least. No option to send home for 200.
Simple general rule though. The more guys the cheaper. Because you can share in the SHARED costs. Less guys, the more it is. Although I think it's more like the difference between 2 and 5 guys. At 5 guys you can still get just one DJ. Anymore than that, you may be looking at 2. But if you can swing it. Just stick to one DJ and don't ***** if the beer isn't being poured at your leisure. Also give the DJ something extra (300 instead of 200) so you can still save some money but reward her for having to service so many people at once.
When it gets to be alot. The ratio will depend on how many girls, how many hard core drinkers there are. People that order food. Etc. Etc. Etc.
I've found it very intersting the dynamics of KTVing and how the mood, fun, value has been over time. Seroiusly it's really interesting.
I have plenty of theories on making a perfect party. And rooms that are and not as fun, etc. But everyone has their own definition of fun.
Have fun, see you at the mini reunion at the end of Nov!
-Jett
SE Asia Joe
11-12-10, 08:04
Name: Bing Bing
Link NONE – She’s a 3-6-9 Gal at the Versailles KTV in Chang Ping
Face: 4/5 – I happen to think she’s got a sexy sultry look, but others may think her too slutty looking (is there such a thing??!!)
Body: 5/5 – Definitely one of the best if not the best body in Chang Ping
Estimated age of the girl: 23
Skill: 5/5 - you ain’t seen moves till you’ve experienced Bing Bing’s moves!
Service: 5/5 – but warning – she can be quite moody – so YMMV!
Conclusion: 5/5 A must do gal – what can I say??!!
Overall score: 4.5/5
Retry: You tell me!!
Wai!! – I’m hungry!! That’s the first words I heard on the phone when I answered it. Bing Bing’s on the line!
And herewith the start of the report I’m now putting together on our happy hooker Bing Bing
Yes – she used to be a BBS gal at the old Swan Lake hotel but hey – times moved on, seasons change and she’s now a KTV gal at the Versailles. And at 3-6-9 nonetheless!! Yup – she’s of the superstar KTV category now! (thus adding further meat to my contention that in a lot of cases, a KTV gals usually progress up from a BBS).
“Ok, come on out to the Legend café on SWL road then – what time?!”
“Two! 2 o’clock sharp!”
And here I was, still waiting around for her and it was already 2:30! What did I expect out of that ding-bat!! Anyway, pretty soon she comes in storming into the café, all male eyes on her, pronounced how hungry she was, and proceeded to not only order a Roast-Duck-rice but also a couple desserts and drink. Amazing, I thought to myself, whilst watching her gorge herself - that she hadn’t ballooned out with all that food! But then again, I’ve observed that gals with big food appetites are a lot of times also hungry sex tigers too!! But here was Bing Bing herself – still with all the right curves, still with the pouty lips and still all enthusiastic about …. everything!
“How ya doing these days” I asked.
And she starts off with all her latest adventures, the nice guy who paid her RMB 2,700 – plus another RMB 2,300 tip to spend last week-end in Shenzhen with him, another guy who just gave her a Nokia (it was xanzhai – but she of course didn’t think so!), guys no longer matter-of-factly expecting her to give blow jobs (She’s now a KTV gal and she’ll only blow nice guys now! LOL!), her proudly being able to pay for her older brother’s wedding, the house she’s building in Maoming where she’s from (YES! she’s from around here and speaks Cantonese!), how good she’s at her job now – “I go on at 3-6-9, but if I don’t get no sitting at around 8 I tell the mommy to sell me at 2-5-8!” “Hey- you gonna do me now?? I gotta get back to work by around 6…”
‘WHAT??? What did you just say? You want to do what?? At 3-6-9? No freaking way! What, you take me for??’
“No, No No…. you pay me whatever, you pay me nuthin’ – no, you won’t! You won’t pay me nothing! But let’s just do it!!”
Just like that and I found myself back at my place, taking snapshots of her while chatting.
“Hey Bing Bing – you want some business in the afternoon – like you used to do when you were a BBS gal? I can help you out and post this information on a web site I belong to. Lots of horny guys who’d love to do you, I’m sure! But you gotta give ‘em a break on your pricing – 3-6-9 translates to RMB 600 for a sort term in the afternoon – which ain’t gonna swing it. Give ‘em a break on this price and I’ll post it up for you.”
“Sure – just so long as we’re done by 5:50 – 6:00 to give me time to go back to work – sure, I’ll give them a better price.” So THERE Bros! Your chance to get a superstar KTV quality at a discounted price! And you guys say I don’t look out for you? What d’ya say now?? Sharing is Caring, right? RIGHT?! I share good?!
And what is it that you’re gonna get if you partake of the sharing??!! Welll….. of course it’s a matter of YMMV – but Bing Bing is just such a natural that I betcha you’re gonna be well and truly satisfied!
Soon as we get into bed, she right away goes into auto-mode and start seductively grinding her hips, smacking her lips,, licking her fingers, gets straight up on the bed ….and dance…and grind …and thrust….and strip….and blow kisses…and grab herself all over the place… and getting me all steamed up… and then….jump off the bed and cattily proclaims…. SHOWER!! Beatch!
And no water BBBJ for me – she told me that she has had a bit of a sore throat for a couple days; so of course I ain’t gonna risk it. Who knows? Who really knows about these things – always better to be safe than sorry – so I just let her shower herself and I also did the same; besides which, the shower stall is so small that it ain’t gonna be any good anyways. Her covered BJ as part of the main event was – as usual – outstanding; wish she didn’t have that sore throat but…..!~
As for the “main event?” Wellllll guys…. You know that I ain’t any good at describing all the cut and thrust of these things. Imagine though, that you’re reading the best Playboy advisor piece, imagine it’s Bing Bing and I being described, imagine it could easily also be YOU and Bing Bing “Starring!” FIRE away!! You’ve now got your report on the session with her. And let me assure you that if your chemistry is right with Bing Bing, then you’ll have a session to match or even exceed the best Playboy Advisor session. I know I did!
‘Nuff said !
SEAJ
Hi jetsetter, you described it quite well. What about the KTV room charges. You mentioned nothing about that. Regards.
Two guys. Yes, you totally can get out of there for under 1000 easy.
Okay, so here's the breakdown. First of all, the costs are usually in the beer. Let's say you order 1 dozen and get 6 free. That's 18 beers for 2 of you. Plus let's say 1 girl each. So that's 4 people drinking 18 beers.
It depends on how hard you party, but let's say a bottle is 35 RMB x 12 = 420 now we have a DJ. 200, fruits, Tissue, etc. Let's say it's another 150 RMB. Obviously bigger rooms have more fruits, etc. Then add on a 10% service charge.
The total is about 420+200+150 = 770 RMB. Now keep in mind, that's order just one dozen, an extra dozen will cost you another 420 (you'll get 18 beers), and you'll be at 1190. Or I guess yo ucan order just half a dozen and get 9 beers. 210. That's 980. You'll have 27 beers at that price for 4 people. That's enough. But if you take additional gals, I. E. 2 per person, then you'll need more beers.
So in the end, it's all about how much you want to drink.
There are MANY times when we've done things like. NOT ORDERED ANY ALCOHOL (yes, dare I say?) We just ordered food, drinks got to the minimum, then took off.
We brought in a DVD Player and watched a movie in the DVD room. That was definitely a different experience and the girls actually enjoyed it. (this was abck in the day at HH. Some of the guys on this board will remember). Apocolypto was a perfect movie for that, becasue tehre was barely ANY dialogue.
So there are a TON of options. I've even seen guys walk into Mayflower, pick a girl and go out to the hotel and party. They had to pay like 100 RMB Fine for taking them early, but that was well worth not having to party in the KTV room. But that also guaranteed the girl 500 at least. No option to send home for 200.
Simple general rule though. The more guys the cheaper. Because you can share in the SHARED costs. Less guys, the more it is. Although I think it's more like the difference between 2 and 5 guys. At 5 guys you can still get just one DJ. Anymore than that, you may be looking at 2. But if you can swing it. Just stick to one DJ and don't ***** if the beer isn't being poured at your leisure. Also give the DJ something extra (300 instead of 200) so you can still save some money but reward her for having to service so many people at once.
When it gets to be alot. The ratio will depend on how many girls, how many hard core drinkers there are. People that order food. Etc. Etc. Etc.
I've found it very intersting the dynamics of KTVing and how the mood, fun, value has been over time. Seroiusly it's really interesting.
I have plenty of theories on making a perfect party. And rooms that are and not as fun, etc. But everyone has their own definition of fun.
Have fun, see you at the mini reunion at the end of Nov!
Jett
SEAJOE,
You always find the gems in CP. Wow..she's got an ass like a black woman. Ok perhaps not like a black woman, but at least she has an ass, which believe me is quite rare in CP. I see more flat butts than butts with some meat on them.
But then again, I like Breasts more than ass, so BruceTea and I will never have an conflict picking out girls.
And as side note...you can never have a girl who looks too slutty. In my book, the more slutty the better.
bravo on your pictures...this forum just feels so much better with your great picture contributions.
AsnDragon
Name: Bing Bing
Link NONE – She’s a 3-6-9 Gal at the Versailles KTV in Chang Ping
Face: 4/5 – I happen to think she’s got a sexy sultry look, but others may think her too slutty looking (is there such a thing??!!)
Body: 5/5 – Definitely one of the best if not the best body in Chang Ping
Estimated age of the girl: 23
Skill: 5/5 - you ain’t seen moves till you’ve experienced Bing Bing’s moves!
Service: 5/5 – but warning – she can be quite moody – so YMMV!
Conclusion: 5/5 A must do gal – what can I say??!!
Overall score: 4.5/5
Retry: You tell me!!
Wai!! – I’m hungry!! That’s the first words I heard on the phone when I answered it. Bing Bing’s on the line!
And herewith the start of the report I’m now putting together on our happy hooker Bing Bing
Yes – she used to be a BBS gal at the old Swan Lake hotel but hey – times moved on, seasons change and she’s now a KTV gal at the Versailles. And at 3-6-9 nonetheless!! Yup – she’s of the superstar KTV category now! (thus adding further meat to my contention that in a lot of cases, a KTV gals usually progress up from a BBS).
“Ok, come on out to the Legend café on SWL road then – what time?!”
“Two! 2 o’clock sharp!”
And here I was, still waiting around for her and it was already 2:30! What did I expect out of that ding-bat!! Anyway, pretty soon she comes in storming into the café, all male eyes on her, pronounced how hungry she was, and proceeded to not only order a Roast-Duck-rice but also a couple desserts and drink. Amazing, I thought to myself, whilst watching her gorge herself - that she hadn’t ballooned out with all that food! But then again, I’ve observed that gals with big food appetites are a lot of times also hungry sex tigers too!! But here was Bing Bing herself – still with all the right curves, still with the pouty lips and still all enthusiastic about …. everything!
“How ya doing these days” I asked.
And she starts off with all her latest adventures, the nice guy who paid her RMB 2,700 – plus another RMB 2,300 tip to spend last week-end in Shenzhen with him, another guy who just gave her a Nokia (it was xanzhai – but she of course didn’t think so!), guys no longer matter-of-factly expecting her to give blow jobs (She’s now a KTV gal and she’ll only blow nice guys now! LOL!), her proudly being able to pay for her older brother’s wedding, the house she’s building in Maoming where she’s from (YES! she’s from around here and speaks Cantonese!), how good she’s at her job now – “I go on at 3-6-9, but if I don’t get no sitting at around 8 I tell the mommy to sell me at 2-5-8!” “Hey- you gonna do me now?? I gotta get back to work by around 6…”
‘WHAT??? What did you just say? You want to do what?? At 3-6-9? No freaking way! What, you take me for??’
“No, No No…. you pay me whatever, you pay me nuthin’ – no, you won’t! You won’t pay me nothing! But let’s just do it!!”
Just like that and I found myself back at my place, taking snapshots of her while chatting.
“Hey Bing Bing – you want some business in the afternoon – like you used to do when you were a BBS gal? I can help you out and post this information on a web site I belong to. Lots of horny guys who’d love to do you, I’m sure! But you gotta give ‘em a break on your pricing – 3-6-9 translates to RMB 600 for a sort term in the afternoon – which ain’t gonna swing it. Give ‘em a break on this price and I’ll post it up for you.”
“Sure – just so long as we’re done by 5:50 – 6:00 to give me time to go back to work – sure, I’ll give them a better price.” So THERE Bros! Your chance to get a superstar KTV quality at a discounted price! And you guys say I don’t look out for you? What d’ya say now?? Sharing is Caring, right? RIGHT?! I share good?!
And what is it that you’re gonna get if you partake of the sharing??!! Welll….. of course it’s a matter of YMMV – but Bing Bing is just such a natural that I betcha you’re gonna be well and truly satisfied!
Soon as we get into bed, she right away goes into auto-mode and start seductively grinding her hips, smacking her lips,, licking her fingers, gets straight up on the bed ….and dance…and grind …and thrust….and strip….and blow kisses…and grab herself all over the place… and getting me all steamed up… and then….jump off the bed and cattily proclaims…. SHOWER!! Beatch!
And no water BBBJ for me – she told me that she has had a bit of a sore throat for a couple days; so of course I ain’t gonna risk it. Who knows? Who really knows about these things – always better to be safe than sorry – so I just let her shower herself and I also did the same; besides which, the shower stall is so small that it ain’t gonna be any good anyways. Her covered BJ as part of the main event was – as usual – outstanding; wish she didn’t have that sore throat but…..!~
As for the “main event?” Wellllll guys…. You know that I ain’t any good at describing all the cut and thrust of these things. Imagine though, that you’re reading the best Playboy advisor piece, imagine it’s Bing Bing and I being described, imagine it could easily also be YOU and Bing Bing “Starring!” FIRE away!! You’ve now got your report on the session with her. And let me assure you that if your chemistry is right with Bing Bing, then you’ll have a session to match or even exceed the best Playboy Advisor session. I know I did!
‘Nuff said !
SEAJ
Could someone explain the canned beer price versus the bottle beer price? Would it be cheaper to order canned beer (anyone know the price) vs. Bottled beer (35 rmb per bottle with possiblity with being fake)?
Let me post the link again: http://clipper-hotel.com/xiangxi. Asp? Id=661
This is why I am interested in "package pricing" Now, this is at Clipper hotel. Using google translate (sorry I'm ABC), we can get budwiser beer cans for cheaper than tsingtao beer! Package pricing starts from 350 rmb to 1198 rmb. OK, giving Clipper is not Fuhao. But this is a really good deal!
AsnDragon, Jetsetter, Andrew, what do you guys think?
I have been in that exact situation. The all-you-can-drink red wine is definitely fake.
I suggest going with canned beer when in China KTV. A DJ friend once told me that while bottled beer can be faked easily, it is much harder technically to fake canned beer.
Andrew Lowa
11-12-10, 15:38
Hey guys,
Sorry about the Mix up. We were at fuhao, not mayflower. The prices we got for beer was 15rmb for local beer and 25 for imported. But they had this special on for bud at 15rmb.
Most places have 15/25 if you order a dozen at a time. Didn't really have to negotiate any special deal for it. I am surprised you are getting 35-38.
I know its a little more expensive for beer at mayflower and EuroAisa, but just by a few rmb. I think its 18/28 if you order by the dozen.
Andrew
Andrew Lowa
11-12-10, 16:20
Hey Cp141,
I think if you really are looking for an all inclusive deal where you won't have to pay for anything at the end of the night, you best bet would be with these Tao Yin Hotel, (lucky hotel room 508 guides)
With them, you pay up front. 250 to 300 depending on where you are going and that's it. It covers all dj/guide fee/drinks/snacks/tissue paper.
The only thing extra you will have to pay for is if you decide to drink something other than what you have agreed to drink beforehand. And if you ordered extra food other than whats already ordered for as snacks.
I have tried these guys, oh ummm about 8 or 9 times now in the last 3 months now when these is only two or three of us. The only thing with these guys is that most of the people that they put you together with are Taiwanese or Hong Kong guys. I don't really mind that as I speak a little bit of Chinese.
Most of the time though, we like to go by ourselves without a guide as we usually have around 5 to 7 guys almost all weekends.
I haven't yet ever paid more than 300rmb for any night of drinking in CP so far and we like to drink. Sometimes even Whiskey. But that's my group and the places where we hang out. Some people pay more I guess. As for us, we are money conscious.
Some people have a lot of money to spend or waste. I think for me, I rather go 10 times in a month and spend 1000 to 1100 each time for KTV, drinking and girl for the night than to spend 1500 to 2000 each time. (That is for girl and KTV together.)
There is always other cost I guess such as hotel and dinners and sauna's.
DJ/HOST for the room: 200RMB. We never ever get more than 1 host for a room, doesn't matter how big it is and how many people we have. I think its a waste of money getting two or three. But that's just my opinion. We had 16 people, including the girls last time at fuhao and we were just fine with one host. All the host ever do is open the bottle and put on the table most of the time anyways. Most guys play the dice game and the sitting girls pour the DRINK and feeds the food to guys.
You CAN bring your OWN Liquor but for every bottle you have to pay a 50-100RMB fine. (you can work this out with the Manager) So stick with HARD liquor if you are planning on bringing your OWN. The managers don't really care as long as you are a regular customer and meet the minimum charge. Now this is something we have only done at Fuhao, Clipper, Vanaibles hotel KTV (not spelling that right). I am sure other places will be fine with this as well.
If you are bringing your own drink, Don't just ask them if its okay. Pretend that is it and Make it sound like you have done it before and its all cool. One time a manger told us its not possible and a big NO NO. But later she was fine after we brought it anyways.
The cheapest we ever had for the evening at a KTV was 6 guys at Taoyuan. We all set 1 girl each. We all drank local beer which was at 216 per dozen. We ordered two dozen as usual and got one free. Total 36 bottles for 432RMB. One host, 200RMB, One fruit plate and some snacks. 120. No other charge, it worked out to be around 125 per person. We ended the partying at around midnight though. So we didn't drink that much. Three bottles of beer is still alot per person if you are not a big drinker.
I heard someone mention that 10-15 percent service charge? We have never gotten that. Is that something new, what place charges that? I should have a few bills of CP KTV laying around at home. I will take snapshot of it and will upload for everyone's feedback when I go back home in a few days.
Andrew
Ok, I won't order the all inclusive package for Fuhao. But I'm not sure why I 'may' end up with a bill of 3000 rmb for two guys? Given Andrew Lowas report they have a total of 7 guys who drank 84 bottles of bud for 900 for a total of 1280 rmb?
Let say I order every thing a la carte: 200 for the DJ. Lets say I drink 2 dozen and I get 1 dozen free (how much for a dozen usually?) I can pay for that. Tissue fees (how much?). And the fruit platter (how much?). Nuts (how much) plus 10-15% service charge? (can I negotiate this?) Tell them no mommies, vendors selling shit and drinkers coming in(maybe I will allow the professional drinkers in if I can't finish the 3 dozen all by myself) So not counting the sitting fees. For two guys. I can walk out of there for under 1000?
Could you clarify the "ladies drink" you have to buy them otherwise they will get fined? Does it mean when the girls drink my beer, they will charge me more? Can't I just say I don't want to buy you a drink?
I have been in SZ several times with locals, but I haven't been to CP. Just want to clarify some things before I head out there. If someone could just break down a normal KTV bill by price that would be great, or even a snapshot of the bill.
Sardaukar1
11-12-10, 19:34
Could someone explain the canned beer price versus the bottle beer price? Would it be cheaper to order canned beer (anyone know the price) vs. Bottled beer (35 rmb per bottle with possiblity with being fake)?Canned beer is often cheaper, if not the same price, than bottled beer.
Andrew Lowa
11-13-10, 04:55
Hey Cp141,
I have been to clipper KTV, its not that bad. Though their selection is way small than say some of the big ones like EuroAsia. But than again, you are only gonna take one or two girls I guess, so choosing from 200 vs choosing from 500...ummm its just a matter of choice I guess.
We have partied there several times and we had nothing but a good time. The managers are really nice, they go that extra mile because of it being a smaller establishment as they want repeat business.
I don't know if yo noticed their beer prices other than the packaged price. Its 15RMB and 150 for a dozen. As least that's what I remember from the last time I was there which has been a little while now.
Usually we get the one of the 400 to 500rmb room which comes with x number of drinks and snacks already and add addition drink as we need it.
Average cost for 4 to 5 guys there is 150 to 200RMB I think. depending of-course on how much you drink. You can rack up the bill up to 300 per person if you drink like crazy for all night or even higher if you are into hard stuff.
If you do go check it out, let us know what you think? I usually either stay at Clipper or Swan Lake. I like clippers breakfast better but the rooms are pretty much the same in both hotel. Swan lake hotel is 218rmb and clipper is 245 regular room if you know the manager in kTV, or 268 for regular room/298 for the computer room if you are just booking yourself or through some agent.
Andrew
Could someone explain the canned beer price versus the bottle beer price? Would it be cheaper to order canned beer (anyone know the price) vs. Bottled beer (35 rmb per bottle with possiblity with being fake)?
Let me post the link again: http://clipper-hotel.com/xiangxi. Asp? Id=661
This is why I am interested in "package pricing" Now, this is at Clipper hotel. Using google translate (sorry I'm ABC), we can get budwiser beer cans for cheaper than tsingtao beer! Package pricing starts from 350 rmb to 1198 rmb. OK, giving Clipper is not Fuhao. But this is a really good deal!
AsnDragon, Jetsetter, Andrew, what do you guys think?
Jettsetter
11-13-10, 09:36
Hi jetsetter, you described it quite well. What about the KTV room charges. You mentioned nothing about that. Regards.
I thought I put in there the 180 for the fruits, snacks, etc... in general. i mean the KTV's have a room minimum and tack on a bunch of stuff like tissue, etc... i think the average is about 150-200 in little incidentals, plus the 10% service charge...
that's about it... what's good is most KTV's at the endof the night REDUCE the bill by 10% then tack on10% for service charge.. so the numbers end up pretty even...
Jettsetter
11-13-10, 09:39
Hey guys,
Sorry about the Mix up. We were at fuhao, not mayflower. The prices we got for beer was 15rmb for local beer and 25 for imported. But they had this special on for bud at 15rmb.
Most places have 15/25 if you order a dozen at a time. Didn't really have to negotiate any special deal for it. I am surprised you are getting 35-38.
I know its a little more expensive for beer at mayflower and EuroAisa, but just by a few rmb. I think its 18/28 if you order by the dozen.
Andrew
I'd like to know how you get this pricing, because honestly it's just not accurate. Maybe if you take the total rate with the FREE BEERS into account, you can get to this average rate, but not at 15 RMB... or even 18 or 28 actually... the beers are really more like 30... but then again I don't have the menu in front of me...
This rate is VERY cheap, you're talking less than $3 USD and most places are more around $5 USD... (of course you get free beer i.e. buy 2 get one free)...
I'd love to see your actual bill one time, and then hook us up with your contact there so we can get the same deal!
-J
Hi andrew, the prices you telling are quite cheap actually because I paid 400 rmb as my share at fuhao where bsd introduced me to some good friends. I don't think we drank too much of beer. And we were atleast 4-5 guys there to share. So where are you from, how frequently you visit CP or may be you live there. You are giving excellent informations. Keep it up. Cheers.
Hey Cp141,
I have been to clipper KTV, its not that bad. Though their selection is way small than say some of the big ones like EuroAsia. But than again, you are only going to take one or two girls I guess, so choosing from 200 vs choosing from 500. Ummm its just a matter of choice I guess.
We have partied there several times and we had nothing but a good time. The managers are really nice, they go that extra mile because of it being a smaller establishment as they want repeat business.
I don't know if yo noticed their beer prices other than the packaged price. Its 15RMB and 150 for a dozen. As least that's what I remember from the last time I was there which has been a little while now.
Usually we get the one of the 400 to 500rmb room which comes with x number of drinks and snacks already and add addition drink as we need it.
Average cost for 4 to 5 guys there is 150 to 200RMB I think. Depending of-course on how much you drink. You can rack up the bill up to 300 per person if you drink like crazy for all night or even higher if you are into hard stuff.
If you do go check it out, let us know what you think? I usually either stay at Clipper or Swan Lake. I like clippers breakfast better but the rooms are pretty much the same in both hotel. Swan lake hotel is 218rmb and clipper is 245 regular room if you know the manager in KTV, or 268 for regular room/298 for the computer room if you are just booking yourself or through some agent.
Andrew
Big Swingin Dave
11-13-10, 12:38
CP141,
Mayflower and Jiayi have this same policy they have for all the girls. They are required to make their customer order 1 drink for them. It's a daily quota. The drink is usually something that's not what you have already ordered. A glass of Milk, a glass of OJ, a glass of milk tea etc. This costs 15 rmb. No big deal, but it get annoying. Imagine you choose 3 girls per guy and there's 7 guys, that's 21 girls times 15 rmb that's= 315 RMB.
Anyhow no biggie, but sometimes, not always, a lot of KTV take advantage of you when you are new. unless you check your bill every 10 mins or your DJ is nice.
AsnDragonLDs are enforced by KTVs by forcing the WGs to push it on the customers. It cost 25RMB per LD plus service fee so it's about 28RMB per LD. If you have 2 or 3 girls or 5 or 6 like Hungryguy, it can jack up your bill at the end of the night from 28RMB to 168RMB additional. The best way to handle it is that if you don't have a host then just tell the girls if their service is "great" then you will give them an extra tip at the end of the night but never give in and allow the girls to order because if you allow them to order and the other guy don't want their girls to order, they will be pestered all night long or in another case, makes them look bad. I usually just tell the guys up front not to let them order but if they don't want to be the bad guy then just tell the girls to ask me and when they do, I just flat out tell them "NO" so, I am the bad guy and the guys are the good guys and the girls will usually give up. The girls are adamant about asking because if they don't then they will be fined 25RMB by the mommy the next day and for the WGs that only sit and getting gross 200RMB for sitting fee less 40RMB to the mommy, 10RMB for styling her hair, 10RMB for make-up, 20RMB for transportation, 40RMB for food, not counting rent, etc., their net take home is only 80RMB so the 25RMB fine is a big deal to them, so you now know why they are so pesky about asking the LD all night long....it's annoying but you have to understand their point of view...
BSD
Excellent reports Jetsetter, Andrew, and BSD. This gives us a way better view on what to expect when we are walking through the front door of the KTV Given the overall economy and all, we all want to stretch our dollars.
Ok my question: I have seen reports that the girl sits with you for 5 hours in the KTV, but is that rule set in stone? Let say I get to the KTV at 7pm. Does it mean the girl will have to leave at 12am? What if we want to party it up until 4am or 5am? Could I negotiate with the girl to let's say, I'll double your sitting fee if you agree to sit with me until morning?
I thought I put in there the 180 for the fruits, snacks, etc... in general. i mean the KTV's have a room minimum and tack on a bunch of stuff like tissue, etc... i think the average is about 150-200 in little incidentals, plus the 10% service charge...
that's about it... what's good is most KTV's at the endof the night REDUCE the bill by 10% then tack on10% for service charge.. so the numbers end up pretty even...
Jettsetter
11-13-10, 20:44
Excellent reports Jetsetter, Andrew, and BSD. This gives us a way better view on what to expect when we are walking through the front door of the KTV Given the overall economy and all, we all want to stretch our dollars.
Ok my question: I have seen reports that the girl sits with you for 5 hours in the KTV, but is that rule set in stone? Let say I get to the KTV at 7pm. Does it mean the girl will have to leave at 12am? What if we want to party it up until 4am or 5am? Could I negotiate with the girl to let's say, I'll double your sitting fee if you agree to sit with me until morning?
Your 200 RMB sitting fee - lets them stay as long as you want.. although I've NEVER seen anybod stay until Morning partying at a KTV. So I'm not sure if the KTV actually closes or not. We've stayed until 2-3 a.m. and 200 was still the charge...
The only time you give them more is if you take them OUT... 5 and 8 depending on LT or ST.
Now, I guess if there was a 24 hour KTV (which New Century was doing) for a while during the crackdowns, I suppose that if you wanted an EXTENDED partying experience until morning, it would be wise of you to give the girl a little extra, although I've just never had any experience with this so I don't know.
But there's no 5 hour max rule... You're there from when you start, until you leave.. simple. (200 RMB).
The ONLY exception is if you take a girl out of the KTV, it's assumed you're going to do her... so you pay 5.. I've seen where guys take a girl out to another KTV, and even if you don't end up with them, you are obligated to pay 500 (anyone else have this experience?).
-J
Old news earlier this year but nevertheless a good read.
http://www.chinasmack.com/2010/pictures/dongguan-police-parade-prostitute-forcing-her-to-kneel-in-public.html
your 200 rmb sitting fee - lets them stay as long as you want..
now, i guess if there was a 24 hour ktv (which new century was doing) for a while during the crackdowns, i suppose that if you wanted an extended partying experience until morning, it would be wise of you to give the girl a little extra, although i've just never had any experience with this so i don't know.
the only exception is if you take a girl out of the ktv, it's assumed you're going to do her... so you pay 5.. i've seen where guys take a girl out to another ktv, and even if you don't end up with them, you are obligated to pay 500 (anyone else have this experience?).
a lot of locals (or hkers, hehe, i jab) get off from work and go to a ktv late and stay late, so girl have to stay until they decide to leave (and at times without taking the girl out). that's part of the tiring job these girl have to do, party early till late, drink as much as customers want them to drink, and perhaps end the night drunk with only a 200 rmb sitting fee.
yeah, it's standard that if you take a girl out of any ktv, you are obligated to pay her 500 rmb cause the mommy assumes she got "taken out" that evening. whether you do her or not (most likely you will), taking a girl out of her ktv when she's supposed to be working will get her a penalty of being taken out (100-150 rmb to the mommy).
i've had the experience where the guy takes a girl out from her ktv (he's never done or really knows her) but turned out to be a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140)-poor date. at the end, she wanted to leave and pretty much ruined the evening. (a) does he pay her 200 rmb to let this party-pooper go or (b) does he still have to pay her 500 rmb and force himself to have a quickie?
long story short (loong evening with her threatening to call her friends), he tried negotiating giving her 300, 400 (since he won't be doing her), but she wanted 500 flat out plus taxi fare (whether he does her she doesn't care). calls to mommy (mommy don't care), calls to her friends, she's being more and more unreasonable and loud, etc. pretty much a ruined evening.
the best way if you want to bring a girl from another ktv to the party is to pick a girl on the red (rags). that way, you can still party with your pick to get to know her, won't take her out that evening but still have her contact info, and still end up with date you foolishly chose to have for the evening. but yeah, no matter what, you're down 500 rmb once you bring a gal along on your date (bringing sand to the beach).
wildwheelie
11-14-10, 06:35
I want to go to CP in the next two weeks, but since it is in the middle of the Asian game, I am concern that there may be some sore of a crackdown/lockdown.
Can anyone in CP area give us a brief status report regarding BBS and KTV situation.
Many thanks.
Bsd,
Thanks, I forgot the real charge. It's been a while since I was actually a guillible sucker to pay for their drink. I usually just give them a tip afterwards as BSD said if she gives me good service. Never had a problem at Mayflower before. In fact, I've only had one bad experience at Mayflower or Jiayi, all the rest I had a lot of fun and the girls were pretty good about not asking me for a required "drink. " Or it could just be that being in the same room as BSD, most of the girls know not to ask for the free drink.
Thanks Dave.
AsnDragon
LDs are enforced by KTVs by forcing the WGs to push it on the customers. It cost 25RMB per LD plus service fee so it's about 28RMB per LD.
BSD
Jettsetter
11-14-10, 09:44
BSD,
Thanks, I forgot the real charge. It's been a while since I was actually a guillible sucker to pay for their drink. I usually just give them a tip afterwards as BSD said if she gives me good service. Never had a problem at Mayflower before. In fact, I've only had one bad experience at Mayflower or Jiayi, all the rest I had a lot of fun and the girls were pretty good about not asking me for a required "drink. " Or it could just be that being in the same room as BSD, most of the girls know not to ask for the free drink.
Thanks Dave.
AsnDragonIn my opinion, you can go two ways. You can get all the girls drinks and make it just part of the room fee. Or you can say no and do the tipping afterwards.
I usually explain to the girl, as many have suggested, that they'll get a bigger tip at the end of the night. If they're horrible. Then all bets are off.
But if they're good, I regularly give them more for good service. Especially if I know I'm going to see them again. It's good PR. They'll appreciate and come back.
Now that's just up to you. I know many guys are against giving extra tips. But that's my perogative right? I'm not ruining the market because it doesn't happen very often, and after the first time, maybe the next time I don't give her the tip, unless she continues to impress.
In other words. This is not an ALWAYS thing. It's a first impression thing for a girl I know will become a regular.
I'm by no means a BSD, but I'm not cheap either. So for all the things I want. They get rewarded. I believe in that for everything I deal with. Good service deserves a reward. But I don't create it where it becomes EXPECTED.
Just my point of view.
Jett
Went to Fuhao last weekend. As usual, plenty of girls. Each night brought back a girl to hotel overnight. One from the floor (2-5-8) and one from the staircase parade (3-6-10). Both were good-looking but turned out to be dead fish. They were worse than those I found in the BBS. In conclusion, I don't think the KTV girls are worth the money, except if you are going for the look.
Eddy
Just wondering when is the asian game crowd going to storm CP. GZ is not far CP and there are no other place closer. Should people avoid cp around this time. what do you think senior members of CP?
Cheers,
SM88
jetsetter,
I totally know that you mean about being generous sometimes depending on the mood. I've run into situations where you are generous with one girl who gave you a terrific service that really blew you away. By chance you go back to the same establishment, may it be BBS or KTV, and you end up picking that girl's friend that night and rumors were spread that you are a generous customer, and if you don't end up being as generous because you either don't feel like it or they gave you poor to ok service, the new girl gets upset. I was once confronted by a girl who said to me "you paid my friend $XXX extra last time how come you aren't giving me that amount of money?"
It gets really annoying. It rarely happens, but it does occur once in a while.
You get shot in the foot when you are too generous and when you are stingy and cheap you have a bad rep. as well. Always good to stay in the middle ground.
AsnDragon
In my opinion, you can go two ways. You can get all the girls drinks and make it just part of the room fee. Or you can say no and do the tipping afterwards.
I usually explain to the girl, as many have suggested, that they'll get a bigger tip at the end of the night. If they're horrible. Then all bets are off.
But if they're good, I regularly give them more for good service. Especially if I know I'm going to see them again. It's good PR. They'll appreciate and come back.
Now that's just up to you. I know many guys are against giving extra tips. But that's my perogative right? I'm not ruining the market because it doesn't happen very often, and after the first time, maybe the next time I don't give her the tip, unless she continues to impress.
In other words. This is not an ALWAYS thing. It's a first impression thing for a girl I know will become a regular.
I'm by no means a BSD, but I'm not cheap either. So for all the things I want. They get rewarded. I believe in that for everything I deal with. Good service deserves a reward. But I don't create it where it becomes EXPECTED.
Just my point of view.
Jett
I was once confronted by a girl who said to me "you paid my friend $XXX extra last time how come you aren't giving me that amount of money?"LOL, so what did you say to her?
BTW: what is BBs? A salon?
Thanks
Has Jiayi/Taiyuan died down? At one pont it was pretty popular and the go place for flower street. Now all I'm hearing are Mayflower, Fuhao , euroasia, hui mei , hui hua, century , etc being the more popular ones. What do you guys think of Jiayi now?
Jettsetter
11-15-10, 12:02
jetsetter,
I totally know that you mean about being generous sometimes depending on the mood. I've run into situations where you are generous with one girl who gave you a terrific service that really blew you away. By chance you go back to the same establishment, may it be BBS or KTV, and you end up picking that girl's friend that night and rumors were spread that you are a generous customer, and if you don't end up being as generous because you either don't feel like it or they gave you poor to ok service, the new girl gets upset. I was once confronted by a girl who said to me "you paid my friend $XXX extra last time how come you aren't giving me that amount of money?"
It gets really annoying. It rarely happens, but it does occur once in a while.
You get shot in the foot when you are too generous and when you are stingy and cheap you have a bad rep. as well. Always good to stay in the middle ground.
AsnDragon
The amount I'm talking about is usually perhaps an extra hundred. I've honestly never had that happen to me... but perhaps I'm not as memorable.. haha.. (a good thing in your situation).
I think to be "talked about" you'd have to go a few hundred more, to where they think you're worth going after... but in my case it's usually just an extra hundred or so... a small token, but hopefully appreciated on their end...
the awkward thing is when you give them money and they don't even count it... are they reallly going to even know you gave them more?? haha... I sometimes have to let them know that I wanted to cover their fine or something so I said oh for you 25 rmb fine, I put an extra 100 in there or something like that...
Hey I gotta get credit!! hehehe...
Next trip should be nice and sweet... anybody else heading into town late Nov. early Dec??
-J
SEAJ, Legend. Respect. You're living proof that an old dog should not have to change his spots. JMPOV, Wapecy
Name: Bing Bing
Link NONE – She’s a 3-6-9 Gal at the Versailles KTV in Chang Ping
Face: 4/5 – I happen to think she’s got a sexy sultry look, but others may think her too slutty looking (is there such a thing??!!)
Body: 5/5 – Definitely one of the best if not the best body in Chang Ping
Estimated age of the girl: 23
Skill: 5/5 - you ain’t seen moves till you’ve experienced Bing Bing’s moves!
Service: 5/5 – but warning – she can be quite moody – so YMMV!
Conclusion: 5/5 A must do gal – what can I say??!!
Overall score: 4.5/5
Retry: You tell me!!
Wai!! – I’m hungry!! That’s the first words I heard on the phone when I answered it. Bing Bing’s on the line!
And herewith the start of the report I’m now putting together on our happy hooker Bing Bing
Yes – she used to be a BBS gal at the old Swan Lake hotel but hey – times moved on, seasons change and she’s now a KTV gal at the Versailles. And at 3-6-9 nonetheless!! Yup – she’s of the superstar KTV category now! (thus adding further meat to my contention that in a lot of cases, a KTV gals usually progress up from a BBS).
“Ok, come on out to the Legend café on SWL road then – what time?!”
“Two! 2 o’clock sharp!”
And here I was, still waiting around for her and it was already 2:30! What did I expect out of that ding-bat!! Anyway, pretty soon she comes in storming into the café, all male eyes on her, pronounced how hungry she was, and proceeded to not only order a Roast-Duck-rice but also a couple desserts and drink. Amazing, I thought to myself, whilst watching her gorge herself - that she hadn’t ballooned out with all that food! But then again, I’ve observed that gals with big food appetites are a lot of times also hungry sex tigers too!! But here was Bing Bing herself – still with all the right curves, still with the pouty lips and still all enthusiastic about …. everything!
“How ya doing these days” I asked.
And she starts off with all her latest adventures, the nice guy who paid her RMB 2,700 – plus another RMB 2,300 tip to spend last week-end in Shenzhen with him, another guy who just gave her a Nokia (it was xanzhai – but she of course didn’t think so!), guys no longer matter-of-factly expecting her to give blow jobs (She’s now a KTV gal and she’ll only blow nice guys now! LOL!), her proudly being able to pay for her older brother’s wedding, the house she’s building in Maoming where she’s from (YES! she’s from around here and speaks Cantonese!), how good she’s at her job now – “I go on at 3-6-9, but if I don’t get no sitting at around 8 I tell the mommy to sell me at 2-5-8!” “Hey- you gonna do me now?? I gotta get back to work by around 6…”
‘WHAT??? What did you just say? You want to do what?? At 3-6-9? No freaking way! What, you take me for??’
“No, No No…. you pay me whatever, you pay me nuthin’ – no, you won’t! You won’t pay me nothing! But let’s just do it!!”
Just like that and I found myself back at my place, taking snapshots of her while chatting.
“Hey Bing Bing – you want some business in the afternoon – like you used to do when you were a BBS gal? I can help you out and post this information on a web site I belong to. Lots of horny guys who’d love to do you, I’m sure! But you gotta give ‘em a break on your pricing – 3-6-9 translates to RMB 600 for a sort term in the afternoon – which ain’t gonna swing it. Give ‘em a break on this price and I’ll post it up for you.”
“Sure – just so long as we’re done by 5:50 – 6:00 to give me time to go back to work – sure, I’ll give them a better price.” So THERE Bros! Your chance to get a superstar KTV quality at a discounted price! And you guys say I don’t look out for you? What d’ya say now?? Sharing is Caring, right? RIGHT?! I share good?!
And what is it that you’re gonna get if you partake of the sharing??!! Welll….. of course it’s a matter of YMMV – but Bing Bing is just such a natural that I betcha you’re gonna be well and truly satisfied!
Soon as we get into bed, she right away goes into auto-mode and start seductively grinding her hips, smacking her lips,, licking her fingers, gets straight up on the bed ….and dance…and grind …and thrust….and strip….and blow kisses…and grab herself all over the place… and getting me all steamed up… and then….jump off the bed and cattily proclaims…. SHOWER!! Beatch!
And no water BBBJ for me – she told me that she has had a bit of a sore throat for a couple days; so of course I ain’t gonna risk it. Who knows? Who really knows about these things – always better to be safe than sorry – so I just let her shower herself and I also did the same; besides which, the shower stall is so small that it ain’t gonna be any good anyways. Her covered BJ as part of the main event was – as usual – outstanding; wish she didn’t have that sore throat but…..!~
As for the “main event?” Wellllll guys…. You know that I ain’t any good at describing all the cut and thrust of these things. Imagine though, that you’re reading the best Playboy advisor piece, imagine it’s Bing Bing and I being described, imagine it could easily also be YOU and Bing Bing “Starring!” FIRE away!! You’ve now got your report on the session with her. And let me assure you that if your chemistry is right with Bing Bing, then you’ll have a session to match or even exceed the best Playboy Advisor session. I know I did!
‘Nuff said !
SEAJ
Seems she knows the game now, wow! Negotiating and pushing you about SEAJ? Wow...
And I thought she couldn't walk and chew gum at the same time. She apparently isn't as dumb as she looks.. Does she strip at Versailles?
The ONLY exception is if you take a girl out of the KTV, it's assumed you're going to do her... so you pay 5.. I've seen where guys take a girl out to another KTV, and even if you don't end up with them, you are obligated to pay 500 (anyone else have this experience?).
-J
I have had friends call regulars and tell them to come over and sit and negotiate a lower than 500 fee (say 300 come over if you don't come home with me) and that can be done on non-prime (not th/fr/sat) nights. On those nights if they go out mommie will expect them to pay 150. so 300 won't do.
the 25 mayflower fine is only for lady drinks or for the small snacks (or is it the same fine).. alot of girls feel very awkward begging for this so simply take the fine. IF you want to get in good with the girls, tell them you'll give them the 25 fine privately once you sat and decided they will stay (it is $3---)... it takes a relief off of them potentially begging you and that small gesture is better than any giant stuffed bear anyday.
I think to be "talked about" you'd have to go a few hundred more, to where they think you're worth going after... but in my case it's usually just an extra hundred or so... a small token, but hopefully appreciated on their end...
the awkward thing is when you give them money and they don't even count it... are they reallly going to even know you gave them more?? haha... I sometimes have to let them know that I wanted to cover their fine or something so I said oh for you 25 rmb fine, I put an extra 100 in there or something like that...
Hey I gotta get credit!! hehehe...
-J
1. I have had it happen to me when i had exception gfe service and gave 1000 instead of 800, because of a plan to repeat and frankly money not 'i really like you' is how they measure your interest.
Yes sure, my friend just told me she had a customer pay her 2000 to sit for 4 hours. not even a take out. but he now probably has her a beckon call, he calls and she will drop her current customer for a payday. SEAJ just told you about 2800 for bingbing who alot of us did for 200 back in the day .....
2. If a girl doesn't count the money that should be a sign that they too had a good time. That is bonus points in my book. Don't be a fool and don't think they will count it later (the 1000 girl did and then told her friends..) I think to most girls that is there way of saying they had a good time. they trust you won't cheat them at least and also perhaps not counting it for them also makes it less of a 'business' transaction.
3. Yes they can have a good time. sometimes it is purely a transaction. but they certainly can enjoy themselves in the ktv and the room. laughing and joking in the ktv room is genuine. if they are bored you are boring, and don't click then like the previous writer at fuhao (258 and 3610 both duds) you just picked badly. Good looking girls want good looking guys that will give them money. they know they are good looking. if you are a pig and you expect them to treat you like brad pitt, that won't happen, pick an average looking girl to dodd over you.
The best way if you want to bring a girl from another KTV to the party is to pick a girl on the RED (rags). That way, you can still party with your pick to get to know her, won't take her out that evening but still have her contact info, and still end up with date you foolishly chose to have for the evening.
Rain out.... let me explain how this backfires.... You have red tag girl sitting at home or in line and call them to come over.. hey i like you and want to hang anyway come over.. they do....
however if they genuinely like to come out on you when you send them home and take the other 'pick' they can (and do) get jealous. Last time I did this, i got a i shouldn't be jealous but I am (and incidentally i took ms. stinky pussy you remember her don't you BruceTea?) The model actually texted me to tell me she was jealous.
so inviting the red tag can backfire. ... the exception to this is WITHIN the same KTV. since they are in their 'place' you can sit them and they can hang out and seem to mind less if you take a girl from their home field.
ALSO since the other pick has no competition (she is on the rag you are going home ok???), well they don't compete for your attention.
best to pick two new ones, or bring sand you can play with. - note if you bring sand, check the jealously factor. if you think they would be jealous don't sit one..... if they are new (2nd day you sat them) give them some competition. the girls do feel good though when you bring them alone on the second day and you have a good vibe and they have 100% of your attention.
Anybody have an update on the CP weather during the Asian Games?
BTW, by "weather" I am NOT referring to sun or rain.
i really thought it would be a lot longer before i felt the withdrawal of a cp visit - i guess it was just that good and has me planning a shift away from annual visits and trying to figure it all out - including perhaps life changes, as my mandarin progresses - contemplating my next 15 years so to speak - ack - what a trip to cp can do to your psyche !!
some highlights and lowlights if for no other reason (perhaps they amuse or benuse others) than to document ....
in no particular order....
highlights:
hui hua hotel - non smoking for ease on allergies, kick ass breakfast that filled me until night time and location that was close to bbs as well as starbucks, mickey d's , dvd shops and such.... i did find myself taxiing to clipper area a bit for more action, but the hotel location suited my needs to walk about quite well. *i curiously did not use the pool, and that was one of main reasons for choosing hotel (though it did cool down a bit)....
fu hao - holy crap what a party.... great vibe when you get jettsetter working tunes and girls stripping. *too much fun and almost a trip back in time to college parties. *awesome.
toytime... was surprised at how much the girls really got into the dildo vibe, g-spot vibe (all cheapies from spencers gifts in usa - under 20 bucks each) as well as even the velcro four pack wrist cuffs. *girls would tire the cuffs on me and then agree to different positions with them on - they are so unintimidating they can rip the velcro themselves if they ever felt uncomfortable and that never happened. their curiosity was universal and they were always good to go. *i also packed several sets of lingerie for them to change i to coming out of shower.... great present to unwrap... the downside is this focus on some fantasies and play did get in the way of me just stopping to smell the flowers so to speak and admiring and enjoying their magnificent bodies.*
related to toy time - my skinny rhiannon bing bing ( diff girl vs seaj's b b)... i guess i age myself by calling her rhiannon and not rhianna - lol. *seeing that little 19 yr old who has been at it for a few months work that vibe till i needed to replace the batteries blew my mind. *as much fun was her tying me and playing with vibe, teasing me by getting so close and bobbing her head ever so close to my dick licking once in a while, sucking once in a while and then mercilessly pulling away... i was the one finally ripping the damn velcro to get at her...*
pozolim - can't underestimate the power of relaxing and took a couple girls there for his / hers massage and late night snack.... probably they would have appreciated the cash as tip more but well maybe i should have done both.... good mood enhancers for sessions and great atmosphere and relaxation.
mei mao - different kind of relaxation. *guaranteed service that takes the edge off... didn't want to bother bsd in finding this place as he was tied up with other stuff so finding it above the bowling alley was half the fun. *what a spot and great girls.
shenzhen - had to zip there for work and snuck a bit of shopping in a couple of days...man it has come a long way and i left impressed. *especially wehen compared with guangzhou which may in fact now top my most hated cities list....though the canton fair and upcoming games probably influenced the general craziness of the city.
people - from bsd to jetsetter to all the others who partied - great guys and good fun.
*missed opportunities:
didn't sit starbucks once - why not try to pick up either there or elsewhere....man missed the thrill of chase
kicked the girl out every time before breakfast. *some of these girls i genuinely liked and i don't know what my problem is perhaps a need for solitude, but i cannot help but wonder if trip would have even been better had i held onto a girl or two for a couple days... especially girl on final night but that was impossible...
bbs - i have to explore some more with help from bros. *- went twice and need to get this part down so as to manage costs. *also can be quite fun in then chase for the girl i am guessing.
stop and smell flowers.... dang maybe i came home drunk each night from ktv but i will definitely next time fully admire girls bodies and slow it all down - a lot... maybe a lot more naked cuddling afterwards and playing with this incredible nipples.
long pointy - pencil eraser nips- *usually get more than my fair share of these but this time not so much luck.
i think that pretty much covers it - i could go on and *on about attitudes and stuff (mine) but it is probably best kept on chinese women board or kept to myself as i try to figure out what i really want from a woman ( sadly - sex sex and sex - how superficial...... )
til next time....
d23 *
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i'm back home but must post my final two days....
day 7
out to fu hao - but before that i am hooked on mei bao so get if i recall - girl with big knockers - girl 95- great service but rushed on my part to hit the ktv in time for flower.... interview in flower and find a girl willing to go 3 rounds (yeah right - no way for me after two pops at mei bao...) and committed to bj. - i sign her up and race down for the sweetie that i also liked. back in room i release sweetie who has a bit of a cold and seems a bit of downer... 100 rmb since i'm such a nice guy and want the good karma lol...
my girl, she liy - is a little handful - her friend - wen si is even more of a handful and a tight four foot eleven pocket rocket... more on her later..some dice games and even strip dice and wen si and her date get damn near naked ...rocking night at fu hao ! i arrange for next nite a double with wen si and she liy - that inevitably goes bad when first wen si cancels due to big swinging malaysians in town and then later next nite i learn that she liy is a no show probably due to same big swinging malaysians rollin into town. regardless, day 7 is success with rabid she liy at nite for a pop and pop in the am...
day 8
back to mei bao after some work - late late and mayflower flower show is early early !! i choose this skinny little rocket at mei bao whose only english is "oh my god". not to worry sweetie - i've only got 75 minutes so make me pop twice with love and care and you will be in lineups an hour early....win win and she knows it !
flower at mayflower where despite the approx 800 girls, my interview questions of "will you kiss my little brother deeply and a lot", and will you go three times if you stay long time" emit shudders and giggles from so many girls with very few takers.... one thing i did learn - took me 8 darn days ! was not to hide my ipod questions from the nosy mommies peeking.... these mommies are smart cookies and when a few of them saw my requirements they were sure to accost me with selections that fit my bill. i go upstairs with a slutty yoyo type / she liy type as well as a girl next door type who swears she is good with my list.
slutty girl is all show - no class spills drink on girl next door and that was it for me- as well, jetsetter noticed that slutty girl is not ticklish at all and gives the dr. jim theory..... i'm all ears. take girl next door out for walk and we make out in hallway.... on our return to room - you know you have a good party rolling when mayflower staff are peeking in room like schoolboys ... too funny.
slutty girl sees us back in room knows something went terribly terribly wrong and the pouting begins. i play it for a while and then finally release her. take whirl next door who is damn perfect body - thin and well proportioned - a little tall.... we grab a few dvds as i am leaving next day and back in room.... i shower wear my towel and do some work on computer when she comes out with robe covering the lingerie and black stockings i hung for her in shower... we may out standing - i open her robe. more make out and caressing and she drops to knees for long extended mouth only "look ma- no hands" blow job... followed by multiple positions... i honestly wanted to pop quicker to let the poor lass of easy but it took a bit...
repeat in morning after we snuggled and used qq translator - i told her if i had met her day 1 it would have been scary for me as she has me hooked and now i leave.... man...... still hooked..... and thinking about return....
am comes and i race for 800 private van from hui hua. to hkg airport that is ridiculously convenient. i arrive at airport at around 10.
my action over 8 days: day 1: 5 pops, day 2: 4, day 3:3, day 4: 2, day 5: 3 pops, day 6: 2 pops, day 7 and 8: 4 pops each... total over 8 days 27 !
been back almost two weeks, and yes it is too much information, but besides some "morning wood" no drive at all...nada...maybe after all that delicate pussy my dick is a little more discriminating for a while.... that and a couple of the slutty girls (eg yoyo) gave me aclittle paranoia to get tested...all good (whew).
thta's my rambling travelogue..... will do one more oust with some learnings that may help others (eg leveraging the mommies in ktvs etc...) and already planning a sneak away for two to four days.... just gotta make it work with time and $$.
take care all.
d23
Apart from all the mongering you guys do. What about eating (no not eating pussy)? There's got to be some good food places in DG/CP.
Any websites. For example, www.Openrice.com for some good food reviews?
Mit Fo Lfe
11-19-10, 08:00
Apart from all the mongering you guys do. What about eating (no not eating pussy)? There's got to be some good food places in DG/CP.
Any websites. For example, www.Openrice.com for some good food reviews?
don't think there is a food blog about CP but then again I can't read Chinese so it doesn't make a difference to me.
Best dim sum restaurant in Cp that I have been to is at hui hua. There is also a roasted chicken place not sure of name but BSDave and Jetsetter know the name of. Those two are a must for me each time I'm there. Good Sichuan restaurant above pozolim. My favorite cha ting is located next to the miraton hotel across from pozolim. I'm sure Jettsetter will chime in with other places.
Robertsui321
11-19-10, 13:34
don't think there is a food blog about CP but then again I can't read Chinese so it doesn't make a difference to me.
Best dim sum restaurant in Cp that I have been to is at hui hua. There is also a roasted chicken place not sure of name but BSDave and Jetsetter know the name of. Those two are a must for me each time I'm there. Good Sichuan restaurant above pozolim. My favorite cha ting is located next to the miraton hotel across from pozolim. I'm sure Jettsetter will chime in with other places.There are many many places which are good to eat in CP. Just walk around and look for restaurants that are full of overseas chinese and you wld be sure the food is good and prices reasonable. as for how to judge if they are overseas chinese, you wld get it after a while. their dressing and hair stle are different fr locals.
Able Baker
11-20-10, 17:18
Draft of a Simple DG Map to be expanded.
A few corrections already needed.
Hope the map helps others with all the discussion.Thanks for the map. Very helpful. I'm planning a trip next month and will try to add to it a little bit.
Able Baker
11-20-10, 17:55
Here is the sauna card at huihua for review with translation thanks to another member on another forum..
some words are not clear but i have tried my best to translate some of the meanings...
1) The word not clear…. But 3mins service
2) 1 min, wet tissue to clean ear, hand, feet, butt
3) 2 mins, body message
4) 5mins, message your back, hand, shoulder and waist
5) 2mins, hand message
6) 6 mins, warm water in mouth to clean body
7) 5 mins, mild scratch body
8) 5mins, kiss butt hole
9) 2 mins, bj
10) 2 mins, body message
11) 5 mins, words not clear… something like bj
12) 2 mins, bj, cat style
13) 2 mins, sex with your toe - condom on the toe
14) 2 mins, boobs hand job
15) 2 mins, hot water bj I guess
16) 5 mins… not sure what it means… 4 dragons??
17) 2 mins, bj cross with hot and cold water
18) 2 mins, bj
19) 20 mins, sex with 18 styles
20) 2 mins… words not clear.
Any updates appreciated...Number 16 is 龙王聚会（5 分钟）四条龙 = five minutes of "Dragon King Party" action with four dragons. I've probably had it done, but didn't know the name for it. Pretty specialized vocabulary. I'll have to ask my next sauna girl to spell it out for me. Will report.
Jettsetter
11-20-10, 22:56
don't think there is a food blog about CP but then again I can't read Chinese so it doesn't make a difference to me.
Best dim sum restaurant in Cp that I have been to is at hui hua. There is also a roasted chicken place not sure of name but BSDave and Jetsetter know the name of. Those two are a must for me each time I'm there. Good Sichuan restaurant above pozolim. My favorite cha ting is located next to the miraton hotel across from pozolim. I'm sure Jettsetter will chime in with other places.
Hmm... not sure this is the right topic for this board.. but I guess we're here to share experiences, inclusive of other things.. hehe...
As far as food goes... there are always new places popping up and places for all sorts of budgets... good and cheap to more particular and obviously expensive.
The best thing is to let us know what you're looking for and we'll steer you in the right direction... and if you guys find new cool places.. do share. always looking for something new to do in CP.
For those that haven't tried, the Go-Karting in CP is great... lots of fun... but only kills a few hours... Not exactly cheap, but not expensive by US standards.. and it's not ghetto at all, so you'll have a good time...
We get to have more fun bumping and pushing people into walls, but it's all in good fun...
Be there in about a week.. looking forward to it.
-Jett
I have a question. People say you get a 50rmb discount when you book for example, a sauna room at hui mei. Could someone explain what this entail? Is a sauna room the same as a hotel room? Lets say a sauna room cost 198 rmb. Could I use the sauna room just like my hotel room all night and boink as many girls as I want? If I choose another girl at the sauna, will I get charged another 198 rmb or do I just pay for the girl? Also, could I just walk in and get this discount, or do I have to make a "reservation" ahead of time.
Thanks guys.
Hmm. Not sure this is the right topic for this board. But I guess we're here to share experiences, inclusive of other things. Hehe.
As far as food goes. There are always new places popping up and places for all sorts of budgets. Good and cheap to more particular and obviously expensive.
The best thing is to let us know what you're looking for and we'll steer you in the right direction. And if you guys find new cool places. Do share. Always looking for something new to do in CP.
For those that haven't tried, the Go-Karting in CP is great. Lots of fun. But only kills a few hours. Not exactly cheap, but not expensive by US standards. And it's not ghetto at all, so you'll have a good time.
We get to have more fun bumping and pushing people into walls, but it's all in good fun.
Be there in about a week. Looking forward to it.
-JettHi Jett,
Where is this go karting place located? I've asked a few people and no one seems to know of it's existence.
Thanks
DW
SE Asia Joe
11-21-10, 04:40
There are many many places which are good to eat in CP. Just walk around and look for restaurants that are full of overseas chinese and you wld be sure the food is good and prices reasonable. as for how to judge if they are overseas chinese, you wld get it after a while. their dressing and hair stle are different fr locals.
Looking for places full of overseas Chinese is one way - but it also can lead you into rather overpriced restaurants...in that the OC's seem to only know these places!! The Miraton and Hui Hua Yum Cha are such places and does offer great Dim Sum - but quite pricey.
I many times will look for places packed with locals and chow down there as I think that they would be best placed to know what's good. Anyway, I will list my own favorites which may not look good (facility wise) but to me offer great food:
The street that is cross section of Zhongyan road behind the Hui Mei hotel is a good place to find great food - first of course is the Mito's which have always been a favorite of us on ISG as it offers reasonably priced western meals with pictures to point out to when ordering - not cheap but the best iced coffee in town. Further down the road are the famous Chang Ping Goose restaurants - dirt cheap and great taste - RMB 9 for a big bowl of Goose over noodles/rice noodles etc soup or RMB 11 over rice with soup. I'd even say its better than Hong Kong's Yung Kee goose. Further down the street is the Japanese conveyor belt sushi restaurant (good but a bit pricey - just like just about ALL japanese restaurants in CP)) and the Singapore and Thai restaurant (OK only and very pricey - tourist pricing!).
Across the street from the Hui Mei is one of my favorite places - very skutzy but great earth bowl cooked rice - you choose the meats you want, opt for the RMB 8 or 12 version and they'll fire it up right away and you get a really tasty meal. Next door to it is the Soup place - again quite reasonable and good soups (always good in the winter!) and further down is the dessert place - great Chinese style desserts and again great value.
Across the street from the Wah Yuan shopping center is a newish and cleaner place to also have great soup and a cheaper meal - good bargain. Its on a corner and on the 2nd floor - forgot the name - like I forget most others!!
Then there are the various Mar Laat Tang squat places all over the places with lots of WG's eating. Dirt cheap and I guess quite clean as its boiling to all hell in front of you....and sometimes a great place to chat with off-duty WG's on the same benches facing the cauldron.
Just a few suggestions.
SEAJ
Then there are the various Mar Laat Tang squat places all over the places with lots of WG's eating. Dirt cheap and I guess quite clean as its boiling to all hell in front of you....and sometimes a great place to chat with off-duty WG's on the same benches facing the cauldron.
SEAJ
These are the places I want to know.. I want to check out some meat while I"m eating my meat. Any other places with WG's eating?
Jettsetter
11-21-10, 10:15
Hi Jett,
Where is this go karting place located? I've asked a few people and no one seems to know of it's existence.
Thanks
DW
There are signs all over CP for that Karting place.... let me find the number and post it here... not sure I have their number handy.
BSD - do you have the number handy?? perhaps posting on here so others can try it out.
Please note it's more fun to go in bigger groups...
-J
SE Asia Joe
11-21-10, 17:22
Everything everybody's said about Yo Yo from Fuhao is actually true! Incredible how wild this gal is. She was practically bouncing the whole time!
We were at the Fuhao last night and I couldn'd believe what I saw with my own eyes; Dave fixed her up with an athelete who had just won Silver at the Asian Games and she really dug him....and really went to town on him.
Right in front of all of us she was dry humping him with her panties down and then she actually blew the guy - right then and there! Then, even though nobody asked her, she just stripped to her undies and started pole dancing and flashing us her trimmed pussy.
It got to be so bad (or is it good) that our athlete friend actually made his apologies at 9:30 and told us that he just got to ride this wild bronco right away.
Don't know what happened but he wasn't around for breakfast....and lunch...and the rest of the day!!
Like I said - just incredible/couldn't believe my own eyes!!
Oh my!
SEAJ
ManonsanBoy
11-21-10, 22:26
Asia fan,
During every Chinese New Year there is a traditional nationwide crackdown on these types of activities. Goodview is the first Hotel in Tangxia to Close down for renovations or "operate in the dark" so to speak, while other places like Golden Island are not affected at all...business as usual.
AsnDragon
Interesting now Goodview and many saunas are operating full steam but Golden Island is operating with a big chain over its front door and only regulars are allowed.
2 hour period per activity at Clipper plus the WG fee (198 + 400 RMB low end) and Swan lake + WG (498 Rmb).
House two pops rule with Vit C most individual are done for the couple of hours to say the least. Second WG in a row ?
Hope this helps.
I have a question. People say you get a 50rmb discount when you book for example, a sauna room at hui mei. Could someone explain what this entail? Is a sauna room the same as a hotel room? Lets say a sauna room cost 198 rmb. Could I use the sauna room just like my hotel room all night and boink as many girls as I want? If I choose another girl at the sauna, will I get charged another 198 rmb or do I just pay for the girl? Also, could I just walk in and get this discount, or do I have to make a "reservation" ahead of time.
Thanks guys.
Ahhh I see so 198 just for the room use for two hours. Wouldn't it be cheaper to just walk in and tell the mommy I want to bring her back to the hotel room? Or do they also charge you the 198 no matter what?
2 hour period per activity at Clipper plus the WG fee (198 + 400 RMB low end) and Swan lake + WG (498 Rmb).
House two pops rule with Vit C most individual are done for the couple of hours to say the least. Second WG in a row ?
Hope this helps.
Mit Fo Lfe
11-22-10, 08:53
There are signs all over CP for that Karting place.... let me find the number and post it here... not sure I have their number handy.
BSD - do you have the number handy?? perhaps posting on here so others can try it out.
Please note it's more fun to go in bigger groups...
-J
the more people you have the more targets one has to spin people out!!
Save atleast 100 to 200 RMB by asking for room service.
If you are staying at the hotel and accept the room service than the take-out charges come into play and not the 198. Some thing like a house service charge. It is more a service for a returning or trusted client and if busy than room service is the only option.
If room service is important than select a hotel with care.
Ahhh I see so 198 just for the room use for two hours. Wouldn't it be cheaper to just walk in and tell the mommy I want to bring her back to the hotel room? Or do they also charge you the 198 no matter what?
Ahhh I see so 198 just for the room use for two hours. Wouldn't it be cheaper to just walk in and tell the mommy I want to bring her back to the hotel room? Or do they also charge you the 198 no matter what?
Most places still charge like 100 if you bring to your room (I think their cut of the room fee). yes you can keep room after 12 midnight for the night as hotel room. but i don't know about bringing outside girls in there. if you arrange with mommie maybe..
anyone ever called in a girl to sauna from outside after having a sauna girl?
Jettsetter
11-23-10, 00:52
Ahhh I see so 198 just for the room use for two hours. Wouldn't it be cheaper to just walk in and tell the mommy I want to bring her back to the hotel room? Or do they also charge you the 198 no matter what?
i'm not sure if this was answered or not, but most saunas allow you to spend the night after your session if you're there past a certain time. Often it's past midnight... but I think it depends and you should ask ahad of time.
Generally it's better to call ahead and get a discount rate. Not sure the reasoning why... but I imagine it's to build repore with a certain manager, so they can get credit for you showing up... and when they get credit, they probably discount your rate a bit, to give you incentive (that's just my thinking, i haven't confirmed). All I know is that it's better to get to know a manager and you can usually save some money by calling them ahead of time.
Generally the room charge is going t obe included no matter what, because that's how the saunas make money (off the room charge). they're not about to let their girls go without them making their cut. (at least when we stayed at Hui Hua, we still paid the room charge, no matter where we did it)... so why mess up your own sheets??
-J
Downunder96
11-23-10, 15:57
I have stayed at clipper many nights during my last visit. Most of the time when you enter the lift (after you checked-in) a sauna manager always follow you to the lift and give you a card. I have collected about 4.
This is how you do it: Before you board the train from GZ or Shenzhen, give the sauna manager a call and tell him/her you want a sauna girl ovenight and to pick you up from CP station at XX time. By the time I arrived at clipper it was about 11pm. So i had one hour to kill i went for a clipper foot massage and came back about 12am. 2 line up selection and the rest is history!! Overnight room will only be ready after 12am I was told. The room is much bigger than the normal standard hotel room plus it has a separate steam room. The shower room has a special chair where sauna girl perform some special service....
i'm not sure if this was answered or not, but most saunas allow you to spend the night after your session if you're there past a certain time. Often it's past midnight... but I think it depends and you should ask ahad of time.
Generally it's better to call ahead and get a discount rate. Not sure the reasoning why... but I imagine it's to build repore with a certain manager, so they can get credit for you showing up... and when they get credit, they probably discount your rate a bit, to give you incentive (that's just my thinking, i haven't confirmed). All I know is that it's better to get to know a manager and you can usually save some money by calling them ahead of time.
Generally the room charge is going t obe included no matter what, because that's how the saunas make money (off the room charge). they're not about to let their girls go without them making their cut. (at least when we stayed at Hui Hua, we still paid the room charge, no matter where we did it)... so why mess up your own sheets??
-J
Interesting now Goodview and many saunas are operating full steam but Golden Island is operating with a big chain over its front door and only regulars are allowed.Nice. Thanks a lot for the info.
AF
Youthagainst
11-24-10, 02:25
There are many many places which are good to eat in CP. Just walk around and look for restaurants that are full of overseas chinese and you wld be sure the food is good and prices reasonable. as for how to judge if they are overseas chinese, you wld get it after a while. their dressing and hair stle are different fr locals.Maybe mentioned already but the claypot rice at Pozolim gets my vote - and it comes free with your foot massage!
Particularly the spare ribs ('py gwut') is a favourite.
Hey Guys,
I've been surfing ISG for over a year but never contacted anyone or posted before so I'm a first timer.
Since I was coming to Guangzhou during the Asian Games I knew that there would be a crackdown on all the real fun there as the same thing happened to to Beijing during the Olympics two years ago. All my coworkers couldn't find a thing there.
So I decided to go the smart route and contacted BSDave. Just called him up as soon as I was done with my business and took the 35 min train to CP. He greeted me and took me straight to a hotel sauna (forgot the name but had a ferrari in the lobby) There we went up a couple floors into a room where he had the mama parade in sets of 3-8 girls at a time. I'm not sure but I must have seen at least 50 girls. He told me to short list a few and in the end I picked this doll face from Sichuan. She started of with CBJ for 5 min, then took me to the shower to give me a body to body bath! Then back to the bed where she continued with a BBBJ this time which was pretty good! After that she showed me a card with a list on it which I didn't understand as I don't read Chinese. At the end I realized that it was a list of everything she did to me. I especially loved it when she licked my ass for a good 10 minutes as I've never experienced that before. Also, she put a condom on my toe and fucked it while giving me a BJ. That was a very interesting and unusual surprise for me, being so new to this. All in all, it cost me 300rmb plus room cost which I forgot how much but it wasnt much.
BSDave then took me across the road to get a real full body massage/foot reflexology where I had a 100min body massage and some good food. All girls there were very easy on the eyes and prices were great!
The next day Dave said he'd take me to a KTV where I would be blown away by the sight of a thousand girls. Well I thought he was just talking it up but when we arrived to this palace of a place, I was astounded! I'm sure he and all the other good guys I met in our group had a good time seeing my reaction. I was like a 10 year old visiting Disneyworld for the first time! Truly a monger's paradise. The only problem I realized I would have was how the hell was I going to pick a girl! There were just too many to pick from and all the mamas were pulling at my shirt and pressuring me to pick this or that girl. I had a great time just "shopping" around. I chose two of the best looking ones I could find to suit my taste of pretty face with big tits.
In the room there was some great camaraderie as I met some like minded fun individuals. I don't know many of their ISG names but SEA Joe and Dar425 come to mind.
I didn't waste any time taking them to my hotel room as soon as the clock hit 9. I took the really gorgeous one back. I knew she had a decent sized rack but was blown away when she took off her clothes. This 5'6'' girl weighed 45 kgs and had large d's. When I showed the guys the next morning some nude photos of her, everyone agreed that they were surprised at how big they were as they seemed smaller with clothes on.
Too bad I can't report the same thing about her performance. She had a horrible attitude and was a dead fish in bed. She didn't want photos, but I took them anyway and she whined that I took too long to cum and she was "tired". She didn't even give a BJ. I gave her her 600rmb (She was a 3/6/10) and kicked her out despite her protest for 100rmb taxi money. Called up Dave to send my second choice who was not as good looking, about a 7. 5 on my scale but had a great body with perfect see sized tits. Oh yea and I learned about the two scale systems. 200/500/800 and 300/600/1000. The second girl was a 2/5/8. She arrived after about 20 min and I told her to get straight to it. She had a sweet smile and a good attitude but was also a dead fish and swore that she didn't know how to give a BJ. What a bunch of shit! Anyway I did my thing and actually enjoyed it quite a bit as she had a tight body with really nice skin. I hung out with her for a bit afterwards but didn't envision myself repeating in the morning so being a tight ass and not wanting to pay the 800 I kicked her out with 500.
I originally planned on staying only one night and going back to Guangzhou but BSDave and a few of the boys "convinced" me to stay one more night so I obliged. LOL, didn't need much convincing as they told me they were going to another KTV which had crazier girls. BSD felt bad for me because I had chosen some dud girls so he decided to hook me up with Yoyo. He told me she was the muthefucking craziest girl and that I was guaranteed to have the time of my life. Although he said she would be not as good looking. I was a bit weary of that but was pleasantly surprised. She was a solid 8 with a really tight body and b cups. I immediately knew I was in for a good time when she gave me the warmest hug and started feeling my body straight up! I also had it in my mind that I would have a threesome for the first time but the other girl I picked backed out as she didn't want to party with Yoyo. She told me to choose and of course my curiosity wouldn't let me pass up on Yoyo so I kicked the other girl out and decided that Yoyo would probably keep me satisfied enough for the night. I really enjoyed watching Yoyo strip tease and entertain the whole room but what really blew me away was she literally blew me in front of everyone! And boy did she have skills! I must have checked my watch every 5 minutes as I was anticipating the clock turning 9. This time I didn't have a back up girl but I wasn't really worried.
I said bye to the guys and took Yoyo to my hotel, the Clipper.
As soon as I closed the door, she jumped on top which sent both of us flying to the bed. This is one crazy girl. She stripped my clothes off and gave me the full cat bath. I mean fully licked and sucked every crack, nook and cranny of my body including the every toe, in between the toes and the bottom of my foot! Dave told me before hand that she used to be a spa girl so she was fully trained! Needless to say I got heated up very fast and fucked her in every imaginable position that I could pull out of my hat. I even busted out the camera and took video which every other girl I've been with has usually frowned upon or resisted. Well good ol Yoyo didn't even acknowledge it and just kept plugging away like nothing had happened. This made for some great video footage. I only wish I could keep it to appreciate again but that would be too dangerous for my "health" if you know what I mean.
Dave also warned me that Yoyo is not a morning person and that under no circumstance should I wake her up in the morning for a session. He advised me to wait until she woke up to initiate anything. Well of course my curiosity got the best of me and I woke at 5 or so, put a condom on and started to get on with it. Much to my pleasant surprise, she went with it and even took off my condom to give me a BBBJ, and cim with a smile!
We stayed up and enjoyed each others company even with my limited Chinese. If I didn't understand what she was saying, she would patiently try to act it out and not give up until we got the point across. The other girls would just give up and sigh. I was so impressed and happy with her true GFE that I slipped her a 1000rmb instead of 800. She didn't' even count it, gave me a big hug and left.
Words can't describe how great of a time I had those three days. I met some great guys and BSDave did everything to make sure that I was safe and had a great time. I highly recommend hanging with him. It makes the most of your limited time plus you don't' have to worry about getting ripped off. It's like having your own personal mongering concierge. Love it!
Thanks,
Bigswingingdave!
Jettsetter
11-24-10, 19:18
Hey Guys,
I've been surfing ISG for over a year but never contacted anyone or posted before so I'm a first timer.
Since I was coming to Guangzhou during the Asian Games I knew that there would be a crackdown on all the real fun there as the same thing happened to to Beijing during the Olympics two years ago. All my coworkers couldn't find a thing there.
So I decided to go the smart route and contacted BSDave. Just called him up as soon as I was done with my business and took the 35 min train to CP. He greeted me and took me straight to a hotel sauna (forgot the name but had a ferrari in the lobby) There we went up a couple floors into a room where he had the mama parade in sets of 3-8 girls at a time. I'm not sure but I must have seen at least 50 girls. He told me to short list a few and in the end I picked this doll face from Sichuan. She started of with CBJ for 5 min, then took me to the shower to give me a body to body bath! Then back to the bed where she continued with a BBBJ this time which was pretty good! After that she showed me a card with a list on it which I didn't understand as I don't read Chinese. At the end I realized that it was a list of everything she did to me. I especially loved it when she licked my ass for a good 10 minutes as I've never experienced that before. Also, she put a condom on my toe and fucked it while giving me a BJ. That was a very interesting and unusual surprise for me, being so new to this. All in all, it cost me 300rmb plus room cost which I forgot how much but it wasnt much.
BSDave then took me across the road to get a real full body massage/foot reflexology where I had a 100min body massage and some good food. All girls there were very easy on the eyes and prices were great!
The next day Dave said he'd take me to a KTV where I would be blown away by the sight of a thousand girls. Well I thought he was just talking it up but when we arrived to this palace of a place, I was astounded! I'm sure he and all the other good guys I met in our group had a good time seeing my reaction. I was like a 10 year old visiting Disneyworld for the first time! Truly a monger's paradise. The only problem I realized I would have was how the hell was I going to pick a girl! There were just too many to pick from and all the mamas were pulling at my shirt and pressuring me to pick this or that girl. I had a great time just "shopping" around. I chose two of the best looking ones I could find to suit my taste of pretty face with big tits.
In the room there was some great camaraderie as I met some like minded fun individuals. I don't know many of their ISG names but SEA Joe and Dar425 come to mind.
I didn't waste any time taking them to my hotel room as soon as the clock hit 9. I took the really gorgeous one back. I knew she had a decent sized rack but was blown away when she took off her clothes. This 5'6'' girl weighed 45 kgs and had large d's. When I showed the guys the next morning some nude photos of her, everyone agreed that they were surprised at how big they were as they seemed smaller with clothes on.
Too bad I can't report the same thing about her performance. She had a horrible attitude and was a dead fish in bed. She didn't want photos, but I took them anyway and she whined that I took too long to cum and she was "tired". She didn't even give a BJ. I gave her her 600rmb (She was a 3/6/10) and kicked her out despite her protest for 100rmb taxi money. Called up Dave to send my second choice who was not as good looking, about a 7. 5 on my scale but had a great body with perfect see sized tits. Oh yea and I learned about the two scale systems. 200/500/800 and 300/600/1000. The second girl was a 2/5/8. She arrived after about 20 min and I told her to get straight to it. She had a sweet smile and a good attitude but was also a dead fish and swore that she didn't know how to give a BJ. What a bunch of shit! Anyway I did my thing and actually enjoyed it quite a bit as she had a tight body with really nice skin. I hung out with her for a bit afterwards but didn't envision myself repeating in the morning so being a tight ass and not wanting to pay the 800 I kicked her out with 500.
I originally planned on staying only one night and going back to Guangzhou but BSDave and a few of the boys "convinced" me to stay one more night so I obliged. LOL, didn't need much convincing as they told me they were going to another KTV which had crazier girls. BSD felt bad for me because I had chosen some dud girls so he decided to hook me up with Yoyo. He told me she was the muthefucking craziest girl and that I was guaranteed to have the time of my life. Although he said she would be not as good looking. I was a bit weary of that but was pleasantly surprised. She was a solid 8 with a really tight body and b cups. I immediately knew I was in for a good time when she gave me the warmest hug and started feeling my body straight up! I also had it in my mind that I would have a threesome for the first time but the other girl I picked backed out as she didn't want to party with Yoyo. She told me to choose and of course my curiosity wouldn't let me pass up on Yoyo so I kicked the other girl out and decided that Yoyo would probably keep me satisfied enough for the night. I really enjoyed watching Yoyo strip tease and entertain the whole room but what really blew me away was she literally blew me in front of everyone! And boy did she have skills! I must have checked my watch every 5 minutes as I was anticipating the clock turning 9. This time I didn't have a back up girl but I wasn't really worried.
I said bye to the guys and took Yoyo to my hotel, the Clipper.
As soon as I closed the door, she jumped on top which sent both of us flying to the bed. This is one crazy girl. She stripped my clothes off and gave me the full cat bath. I mean fully licked and sucked every crack, nook and cranny of my body including the every toe, in between the toes and the bottom of my foot! Dave told me before hand that she used to be a spa girl so she was fully trained! Needless to say I got heated up very fast and fucked her in every imaginable position that I could pull out of my hat. I even busted out the camera and took video which every other girl I've been with has usually frowned upon or resisted. Well good ol Yoyo didn't even acknowledge it and just kept plugging away like nothing had happened. This made for some great video footage. I only wish I could keep it to appreciate again but that would be too dangerous for my "health" if you know what I mean.
Dave also warned me that Yoyo is not a morning person and that under no circumstance should I wake her up in the morning for a session. He advised me to wait until she woke up to initiate anything. Well of course my curiosity got the best of me and I woke at 5 or so, put a condom on and started to get on with it. Much to my pleasant surprise, she went with it and even took off my condom to give me a BBBJ, and cim with a smile!
We stayed up and enjoyed each others company even with my limited Chinese. If I didn't understand what she was saying, she would patiently try to act it out and not give up until we got the point across. The other girls would just give up and sigh. I was so impressed and happy with her true GFE that I slipped her a 1000rmb instead of 800. She didn't' even count it, gave me a big hug and left.
Words can't describe how great of a time I had those three days. I met some great guys and BSDave did everything to make sure that I was safe and had a great time. I highly recommend hanging with him. It makes the most of your limited time plus you don't' have to worry about getting ripped off. It's like having your own personal mongering concierge. Love it!
Thanks,
Bigswingingdave!
Should we now start a thread called "YoYo's Thread??"
Just Seven
11-25-10, 01:19
Hahaha Yoyo strikes again!
Might be in town in the near future...
There enough people around for go karting this weekend?!
Hey Guys,
I've been surfing ISG for over a year but never contacted anyone or posted before so I'm a first timer.
Since I was coming to Guangzhou during the Asian Games I knew that there would be a crackdown on all the real fun there as the same thing happened to to Beijing during the Olympics two years ago. All my coworkers couldn't find a thing there.
So I decided to go the smart route and contacted BSDave. Just called him up as soon as I was done with my business and took the 35 min train to CP. He greeted me and took me straight to a hotel sauna (forgot the name but had a ferrari in the lobby) There we went up a couple floors into a room where he had the mama parade in sets of 3-8 girls at a time. I'm not sure but I must have seen at least 50 girls. He told me to short list a few and in the end I picked this doll face from Sichuan. She started of with CBJ for 5 min, then took me to the shower to give me a body to body bath! Then back to the bed where she continued with a BBBJ this time which was pretty good! After that she showed me a card with a list on it which I didn't understand as I don't read Chinese. At the end I realized that it was a list of everything she did to me. I especially loved it when she licked my ass for a good 10 minutes as I've never experienced that before. Also, she put a condom on my toe and fucked it while giving me a BJ. That was a very interesting and unusual surprise for me, being so new to this. All in all, it cost me 300rmb plus room cost which I forgot how much but it wasnt much.
BSDave then took me across the road to get a real full body massage/foot reflexology where I had a 100min body massage and some good food. All girls there were very easy on the eyes and prices were great!
The next day Dave said he'd take me to a KTV where I would be blown away by the sight of a thousand girls. Well I thought he was just talking it up but when we arrived to this palace of a place, I was astounded! I'm sure he and all the other good guys I met in our group had a good time seeing my reaction. I was like a 10 year old visiting Disneyworld for the first time! Truly a monger's paradise. The only problem I realized I would have was how the hell was I going to pick a girl! There were just too many to pick from and all the mamas were pulling at my shirt and pressuring me to pick this or that girl. I had a great time just "shopping" around. I chose two of the best looking ones I could find to suit my taste of pretty face with big tits.
In the room there was some great camaraderie as I met some like minded fun individuals. I don't know many of their ISG names but SEA Joe and Dar425 come to mind.
I didn't waste any time taking them to my hotel room as soon as the clock hit 9. I took the really gorgeous one back. I knew she had a decent sized rack but was blown away when she took off her clothes. This 5'6'' girl weighed 45 kgs and had large d's. When I showed the guys the next morning some nude photos of her, everyone agreed that they were surprised at how big they were as they seemed smaller with clothes on.
Too bad I can't report the same thing about her performance. She had a horrible attitude and was a dead fish in bed. She didn't want photos, but I took them anyway and she whined that I took too long to cum and she was "tired". She didn't even give a BJ. I gave her her 600rmb (She was a 3/6/10) and kicked her out despite her protest for 100rmb taxi money. Called up Dave to send my second choice who was not as good looking, about a 7. 5 on my scale but had a great body with perfect see sized tits. Oh yea and I learned about the two scale systems. 200/500/800 and 300/600/1000. The second girl was a 2/5/8. She arrived after about 20 min and I told her to get straight to it. She had a sweet smile and a good attitude but was also a dead fish and swore that she didn't know how to give a BJ. What a bunch of shit! Anyway I did my thing and actually enjoyed it quite a bit as she had a tight body with really nice skin. I hung out with her for a bit afterwards but didn't envision myself repeating in the morning so being a tight ass and not wanting to pay the 800 I kicked her out with 500.
I originally planned on staying only one night and going back to Guangzhou but BSDave and a few of the boys "convinced" me to stay one more night so I obliged. LOL, didn't need much convincing as they told me they were going to another KTV which had crazier girls. BSD felt bad for me because I had chosen some dud girls so he decided to hook me up with Yoyo. He told me she was the muthefucking craziest girl and that I was guaranteed to have the time of my life. Although he said she would be not as good looking. I was a bit weary of that but was pleasantly surprised. She was a solid 8 with a really tight body and b cups. I immediately knew I was in for a good time when she gave me the warmest hug and started feeling my body straight up! I also had it in my mind that I would have a threesome for the first time but the other girl I picked backed out as she didn't want to party with Yoyo. She told me to choose and of course my curiosity wouldn't let me pass up on Yoyo so I kicked the other girl out and decided that Yoyo would probably keep me satisfied enough for the night. I really enjoyed watching Yoyo strip tease and entertain the whole room but what really blew me away was she literally blew me in front of everyone! And boy did she have skills! I must have checked my watch every 5 minutes as I was anticipating the clock turning 9. This time I didn't have a back up girl but I wasn't really worried.
I said bye to the guys and took Yoyo to my hotel, the Clipper.
As soon as I closed the door, she jumped on top which sent both of us flying to the bed. This is one crazy girl. She stripped my clothes off and gave me the full cat bath. I mean fully licked and sucked every crack, nook and cranny of my body including the every toe, in between the toes and the bottom of my foot! Dave told me before hand that she used to be a spa girl so she was fully trained! Needless to say I got heated up very fast and fucked her in every imaginable position that I could pull out of my hat. I even busted out the camera and took video which every other girl I've been with has usually frowned upon or resisted. Well good ol Yoyo didn't even acknowledge it and just kept plugging away like nothing had happened. This made for some great video footage. I only wish I could keep it to appreciate again but that would be too dangerous for my "health" if you know what I mean.
Dave also warned me that Yoyo is not a morning person and that under no circumstance should I wake her up in the morning for a session. He advised me to wait until she woke up to initiate anything. Well of course my curiosity got the best of me and I woke at 5 or so, put a condom on and started to get on with it. Much to my pleasant surprise, she went with it and even took off my condom to give me a BBBJ, and cim with a smile!
We stayed up and enjoyed each others company even with my limited Chinese. If I didn't understand what she was saying, she would patiently try to act it out and not give up until we got the point across. The other girls would just give up and sigh. I was so impressed and happy with her true GFE that I slipped her a 1000rmb instead of 800. She didn't' even count it, gave me a big hug and left.
Words can't describe how great of a time I had those three days. I met some great guys and BSDave did everything to make sure that I was safe and had a great time. I highly recommend hanging with him. It makes the most of your limited time plus you don't' have to worry about getting ripped off. It's like having your own personal mongering concierge. Love it!
Thanks,
Bigswingingdave!WOW! I am in GZ now and definitely hope to get on this Yo Yo train hahaha. I can see why the video might be bad for your health. heck, even reading the description of what she did to you could be bad for my health hahaha.
Happy Mongering all, and yes I would also want to participate in go-carting.
Hahaha Yoyo strikes again!
Might be in town in the near future...
There enough people around for go karting this weekend?!How to book Yoyo? Walk in to Fuhao and speak to one of the mommy and ask for Yoyo? If I catch anything from her its going to be from one of you guys I'll be there during Christmas and new years so see you guys there.
SE Asia Joe
11-27-10, 04:50
How to book Yoyo? Walk in to Fuhao and speak to one of the mommy and ask for Yoyo? If I catch anything from her its going to be from one of you guys I'll be there during Christmas and new years so see you guys there.
Hey! Yo-Yo is one of CP's National treasures!
You really think we is gonna share her around??!!
LOL!!!!!!
SEAJ
Wow, my imagination is running wild right now about yoyo. I'm trying to imagine her behavior as crazy as that one girl in Cali Red a couple years back when Freepeaks took her back for a threesome. Freekpeaks- you remember, that girl who stripped naked on the glass table who had the body of a black woman--nice round ass and breasts.
can anyone tell me where yoyo is from? Hunan?
I wish I can fly over right now.
AsnDragon
Big Swingin Dave
11-27-10, 16:55
Wow, my imagination is running wild right now about yoyo. I'm trying to imagine her behavior as crazy as that one girl in Cali Red a couple years back when Freepeaks took her back for a threesome. Freekpeaks- you remember, that girl who stripped naked on the glass table who had the body of a black woman--nice round ass and breasts.
can anyone tell me where yoyo is from? Hunan?
I wish I can fly over right now.
AsnDragon
Yoyo is from the Sichuan ( 四 川 ）province. She is the consumate professional WG. We went to Fuhao tonight and did not pre-book her. Maxkwalat came late and asked for her. I called her and found out that she has just been picked by another customer but she came by our room anyways and when Max said he really wants her to sit with him in our room, she agreed and went back to her original customer and told him that she was excusing herself from him and came back to party with us. We will all wait for Max's FR on Yoyo accordingly...
BSD
What was supposed to be a 3-4 day adventure turned into a one night rush like hell to get to CP and have fun night.
Went to Peninsula with BSD and few others and had a great time. I always seem to do well at this place and I must admit, I enjoy the line up method of choosing. I sat 3 gals, but it was obvious soon the third one needed to go. She started put like a firecracker, but got a phone call, walked out of the room, and when she returned acted really disinterested. I suspect another customer or friend wanted her to sit with them.
In an amazing coincidence, the other two both used "Coco" for English name and in real life their Chinese given names were the same.
It was a race for a while, but one of the girls started talking and sms on her phone and that sealed it for me. I REALLY find this annoying, and next time will take the advice of a experienced monger friend and just tell them when they sit, if you use the phone your gone, unless it is an emergency and you have to leave the building. I know it's a hard habit to break, coz sms is like talking, but it bugs me and I am paying the toll.
The event when we returned to the hotel was good if not spectacular, and I will repeat as this was most likey the prettiest Chinese gal I have ever done, and she enjoyed playing with my toy collection!
I hope to make it back in a week or so, to catch up with some friends!
Thanks again to BSD for a fun evening!
SE Asia Joe
11-28-10, 05:59
Yoyo is from the Sichuan ( 四 川 ）province. She is the consumate professional WG. We went to Fuhao tonight and did not pre-book her. Maxkwalat came late and asked for her. I called her and found out that she has just been picked by another customer but she came by our room anyways and when Max said he really wants her to sit with him in our room, she agreed and went back to her original customer and told him that she was excusing herself from him and came back to party with us. We will all wait for Max's FR on Yoyo accordingly...
BSD
Again....!!!
An early exit for Yo Yo and her "Fren"
This is the second time I've observed that guys sitting with Yo Yo would leave VERY EARLY - the last time by 9:30 and this time before 10.
I speculate that its either the guy just NOT being able to stand it/just had to do her right away or elseee..... Yo Yo must really like her job and want to spend as much time as possible "doing" her prize for the night.
So what is it guys?
Howzabout intel from you guys who'd done her on her modus operandi?
And her d'ruthers!!
Besides which, the room really turns "down" as soon as she leaves! You guys leaving so early with her....you guys owe us for contributing to buzz-kill! LOL!
SEAJ
So next year I will be making my virgin trip to China (and Asia) for mongering. I'm not new to mongering. But mostly Latin America. The plan is weekends in Macau and weekdays in Dongguan. My friends have been many times but they are kind of ballers who only want to go to the high end places. They could be getting ripped off, but they don't care. I'm basically a budget monger but want to try out everything. I've been enjoying the reports here. I was wondering if someone can compile a brief list of low/mid/high end hotels, saunas, pickup bars, KTV, quickie places, etc (with pricing) so I can continue my research. Also, they tell me there are a lot of Asian only places. I'm not sure if those places get talked about here a lot. Also, it would be helpful to know the level of English/Canto at these places. There will be at least one guy speaking Mandarin so getting in shouldn't be a problem. BTW, has anyone done a "Guide to China"?
SE Asia Joe
11-29-10, 08:33
So next year I will be making my virgin trip to China (and Asia) for mongering. I'm not new to mongering. But mostly Latin America. The plan is weekends in Macau and weekdays in Dongguan. My friends have been many times but they are kind of ballers who only want to go to the high end places. They could be getting ripped off, but they don't care. I'm basically a budget monger but want to try out everything. I've been enjoying the reports here. I was wondering if someone can compile a brief list of low/mid/high end hotels, saunas, pickup bars, KTV, quickie places, etc (with pricing) so I can continue my research. Also, they tell me there are a lot of Asian only places. I'm not sure if those places get talked about here a lot. Also, it would be helpful to know the level of English/Canto at these places. There will be at least one guy speaking Mandarin so getting in shouldn't be a problem. BTW, has anyone done a "Guide to China"?
Hey! A very good idea!
A Guide to China!
Since you'll be doing a lot of RTFF anyway - why don't you compile such a list!
Just make sure you only give out oblique references to sensitive information as we know who all will also be lurking here!
Mongering is pretty well ....errrr....rampant in China - but the powers that be hates it when foreigners/the International audience gives too much attention to what all is REALLY happening here, and we've all seen how things that appear on ISG - seems to disappear just as quick as soon as anybody posts such info here.
Thank you beforehand - at least a newbie to China who'll not only request (no, a lot times they're more like..... demands!) for information, but one who will at last do some work for us! Thanks
SEAJ
Hey Big Swinging Dave
I'm in the area.
If you got min
Shoot me a email to
[Email address deleted by Admin]
Thanks
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Big Swingin Dave
11-29-10, 17:22
Business is booming in CP which is evidence by the grand opening of the Park Hyatt ( Po Yue 珀 悦 ) KTV today at the old Sindi Disco location which is right next to the Mayflower Hotel. It has 80 plus rooms in 4 different configurations on 3 floors. Some of the rooms have ceililing to floor windows overlooking a massive stage that will be completed by the end of the first week of December. Not all of the KTV rooms are new as some of the rooms were the remnant from the Sindi Disco era.
The KTV rooms consists of small 4-5 guys plus WGs (680 minimum); medium 5 - 6 guys plus WGs (1,080 min.); large 8 - 10 guys plus WGs (1,680 min.); and VIP 12- 15 guys plus WGs (3,880 min.). There are also four Villas built behind the main KTV buildings for private parties (intent of these villas are catered to local officials/celebrities and are only available to the public if it is not being used by the owner who also owns the Virgin hotel).
WG prices are 2-5-8; but majority of the WGs there are 3-6-10. There is a massive flower street similar to Mayflower on the first floor. The minimum number of WGs is estimated at 700 and upwards of a 1,000 in the weekends. Where they find these girls...I don't know...but I saw lots of familiar faces today as I was given a private tour by the management today.
Alcohol is a bit more expensive, for beers buy 2 doz. get 1 doz. free, red wine buy 3 bottles get 1 bottle free, and liquor buy 2 bottles get 1 bottle free.
Management told me that they are targeting upper middle class clientele and drugs are definitely not allowed in the establishment unlike the old Sindi Disco which cause the closure of it's own demise.
The interior of the new rooms are designed similar to the Regency hotel with less neon lights and with marble tables. The computer system are touch screen with a good selection of English songs. Whether we are able to bring our own MP3 music has not yet been confirmed so more to follow as we will be heading there this weekend to try out this new place to party.
More to follow...
BSD
It was a race for a while, but one of the girls started talking and sms on her phone and that sealed it for me. I REALLY find this annoying, and next time will take the advice of a experienced monger friend and just tell them when they sit, if you use the phone your gone, unless it is an emergency and you have to leave the building. I know it's a hard habit to break, coz sms is like talking, but it bugs me and I am paying the toll.
I 100% agree on this. if they use phone or sms then they are gone. usually i will keep them but ignore them allowing them to be bored and 'fining' them for talking to said customer/bf/ etc.
Question is do you warn them not to use the phone (therefore altering their perceived behavior as gf for the night) .. or just see if they use the phone and judge their 'interest' level with this as a factor
So what is it guys?
Howzabout intel from you guys who'd done her on her modus operandi?
And her d'ruthers!!
SEAJ
She left with me at 12 so no buzzkill from me. but unfortunately got very drunk so much that when we went horizontal she nearly puked. thanks not to me but another monger who's date already had passed out in the room. however she is alot of fun and was apologetic that she passed out (consumate professional)..
Joe:
I did Yoyo my first night in CP - my biggie as I did Tien Tien at 830 - twice - then came back to party with Yoyo and take her home - - lets just say that first night solved a lot of pent up frustration !!
My thoughts on her are as follows:
- borderline narcissistic - lovvvves attention and the spirit of competition I think is what revvs her up in the room - - I saw her on another night with less "fun" girls, and she toned her game down a LOT - - maybe hung over.
- see above - craves attention - - in the hotel room if I heard it once I heard it fifty times "are you happpy ??" - maybe it is my limited Mandarin - maybe she is just a pleaser - - a real dedicated pleaser
- PSE - I was pretty drunk from great party but I am pretty sure if I remember it right she sat me down - took off my jeans and blew me prior to the shower - of course she also blew me a bit in the room (as well as a lucky other KTV'er !!) during the strip portion of the night
- PSE - Again if I remember correctly - -before shower she licked and sucked my feet - soles toes - the whole shebang... I'm not into that stuff too much but she really had me rolling - -and she knew it
- PSE - like a bucking bronco - I like a little more of the GFE - she was active and aggressive !!
- one smart cookie - - I was there for a week - had my fill and wanted to move on - - since she is NOT a morning person I used the "c'mon baby I may sit you later this week but not tomorrow as I have to travel out of town for a few days".... it stirred the business person in her into action that morning and smarty pants that she is - - she called me on my little white lie when we met up in a KTV room two days later...
All in all - - GREAT FUN !!!
D23
So what is it guys?
Howzabout intel from you guys who'd done her on her modus operandi?
And her d'ruthers!!
SEAJ
See a lot of brother highly recommended bing bing and yoyo in the reports.
It sounded a lot of fun with either one of the girl.
I am arriving Cp late tonier.
Any chances if I can get this 2 gals for 3some would be a fucking great nite. Any advice. Is it possible?
Bing bing from Versailles KTV
Yoyo from KTV
SE Asia Joe
11-30-10, 09:47
Joe:
I did Yoyo my first night in CP - my biggie as I did Tien Tien at 830 - twice - then came back to party with Yoyo and take her home - - lets just say that first night solved a lot of pent up frustration !!
My thoughts on her are as follows:
- borderline narcissistic - ...........All in all - - GREAT FUN !!!
D23
Mucho gracias to you and Freepeaks for your analysis of our favorite party Gal!
Pretty accurate I THINK!
Otherwise why would she be such a live-wire?
Somebody had mentioned drugs - but as far as I know gals on drugs (not much actually!!) - she certainly don't fit the profile OR the outward physical mannerism/actions.
On with the show!!!
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
11-30-10, 09:49
Hey Big Swinging Dave
I'm in the area.
If you got min
Shoot me a email to
[Email address deleted by Admin]
Thanks
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Go to the classified sections for the information you need.
Have fun!
SEAJ
I'm in Dongguan and this is my first time in China. I will be here in Dongguan for 5 days more. Pls advise me some KTV's where i can find pretty chicks and take them to my hotel room. And idea of charges will be appreciated.
Thank you in advance.
Last Saturday I went to CP from Guangzhou and met up with the guys at Fu Hao KTV. It was a hectic and rushed trip from Guangzhou to CP, but I made it smoothly thanks to help and guidance from SEJoe and BSDave. Fu Hao KTV was my second KTV experience (yes I live a sad existence) and my first one was nearly two years ago so I consider myself pretty new to the KTV scene. Nevertheless things do go smoothly when you are guided by Mr. Joe and Dave. I arrived at Fu Hao at 6. 30pm and was greeted at the entrance by two dozen or so girls smiling and bidding me welcomes. As soon as I walked through the doors, I felt like I had entered a high end club ambience with beautiful girls everywhere. The music was bumping, girls were everywhere, kind of reminded me of going to an exclusive clubbing event or a frat party where the ratio of girls to guys were very favorable to the guys. I rushed to our KTV room and met a wide variety of fine gentlemen and their attractive companions for the night. Having read the posts from the last 10 pages dozens of times, I had pre-decided to select Yoyo for the night. I asked BSDave about her, and he definitely hooked me up! Yoyo came, beautiful girl with a fun and spontaneous personality; she asked me if I wanted her and how could I refuse (I am inherently bad at saying no to pretty girls). Yoyo then ditched her previous party to sit with me, and I am pretty sure Dave played a big part in this. Joe also told me what a great ride I signed up for and I couldn't help but smile. There were about a dozen guys and a bit more than a dozen girls in the room and it got a little difficult to have everyone involved so we all just played our dice games in our respective corners. Yoyo, myself, a nice gentleman from Germany and his date joined in to play a new game of dice. Many weird rules were involved but the addition of taking an article of clothing off when someone rolled a certain digit really added fire to the game. This is where Yoyo's brilliance came in. She is a wild firecracker and is definitely not shy about revealing her body and adding sexiness to the room. Usually girls take off a shoe or sock or earring (what my neighbor's girl took off), but Yoyo was different. First came off her stockings, then her panties which she started flashing her trimmed pussy and then off came her bra. The whole time while playing the dice game, she was turning me on and knew what buttons to press. Sometimes she would grind me, then let me rub her pussy, then rub her breasts for good luck while rolling the dice (perhaps I am a KTV noob and gets turned on easier). Yoyo was exuding her sexiness all around and I think Yoyo's performance was also affecting my neighbor and we decided to leave earlier so we could have some sexy time with our ladies. Thinking in retrospect, I honestly do feel bad about leaving earlier and thus apologize to all in that room. I just don't think I could handle drinking anymore beer while lusting over my girl (perhaps I should get 1 pop out of the way and then come back to the KTV later).
The bedroom activities were pretty wild and the intensity was accurately foreshadowed by Joe. I carried her into the room (she is a spinner type, very nice body) and threw her onto the bed where she started to undress herself and me. Then she started licking and sucking me everywhere. She definitely knew what she was doing; Yoyo wasn't like a dog lapping everywhere, but more like a fine courtesan sensually turning me on with her soft lips and the twirl of her tongue. She got to my erection and did a great job polishing it, a superb BBBJ was given (surprised it was not toothy), very PSE and she even attempted DT which I thoroughly enjoyed. I was about to pop but decided to hold off and headed to the showers. In the shower she lathered me nicely and pampered me before going down on me again. I did try to DATY but was kindly rejected so I decided not to pursue that route. Sex was absolutely wild. She's down for any position you can imagine: Miss, CG, RCG, DG, Flat DG, Standing up etc. It was definitely a carnal marathon and we moved from the bed to the chair to the desk and even to the window. Sex went on for a long time (I think the alcohol makes it longer for me to finish). Yoyo gets props for being a real trooper, she didn't complain at all about the length of sex. It is an erection killer for me when a girl tells me to either hurry up and jizz or that she doesn't want to do it anymore. After sex we fell asleep. Here comes the minor imperfection for Yoyo, she is definitely a great fuck but not an intimate bed mate. I was also pre-warned by Joe about this trait of Yoyo's but decided to try my luck. I was hoping I could get lucky with the intimacy while sleeping issue but Yoyo told me she doesn't enjoy hugging someone or being hugged while sleeping, she also doesn't like it when you move too much in bed. I definitely did not have that great of a sleep, as I was hoping for some intimacy and also constantly thought about doing her again. Half way through the night I decided I couldn't handle it anymore, and thus put on a condom and began my mission to do Yoyo again. I knew she would probably protest and push me away but to my surprise I had it easy this time and thus proceeded to another fantastic round 2. After exhausting my body, I feel asleep.
Conclusion: Thanks to everyone for making the night a memorable experience.
Fu Hao: WOW! Though I heard Hu Mei is just as extravagant.
Yoyo great in bed but not the best sleeping companion. She has a great body, fun to play with, definitely a great experience.
BSDave definitely is a great help and a valuable CP asset
SEJoe knows everything! I wish I could study under him in regards to this type of leisure activity
Damage: black circles under eyes, sore thighs, one bruised arm (don't know how that happened), drained balls and 9 Maos
I think I am still too green-horned and need a bit more P2P experience. For example I regret not asking for a third pop in the very morning, or using my video camera which I had prepared. This is definitely common knowledge for all experienced folks but I've learned that I absolutely can not be shy in these type of environment, just ask or demand and you will receive, don't ask and you might miss out. Perhaps I will write a guide for true KTV noobs.
Hi,
I will be traveling from Guangzhou to Shenzhen, but after reading so many glowing reviews about CP, I figure I'd be crazy not to stop by! What would my best option be? I will be there in the late morning or early afternoon for 2-3 hours. I don't want to spend too much, and she doesn't need to be a 10. I just want some raw, no-frills dirty fun, not too far from the train station during the day!
Last Saturday I went to CP from Guangzhou and met up with the guys at Fu Hao KTV. It was a hectic and rushed trip from Guangzhou to CP, but I made it smoothly thanks to help and guidance from SEAJoe and BSDave. Fu Hao KTV was my second KTV experience (yes I live a sad existence) and my first one was nearly two years ago so I consider myself pretty new to the KTV scene. Nevertheless things do go smoothly when you are guided by Mr. Joe and Dave. I arrived at Fu Hao at 6. 30pm and was greeted at the entrance by two dozen or so girls smiling and bidding me welcomes. As soon as I walked through the doors, I felt like I had entered a high end club ambience with beautiful girls everywhere. The music was bumping, girls were everywhere, kind of reminded me of going to an exclusive clubbing event or a frat party where the ratio of girls to guys were very favorable to the guys. I rushed to our KTV room and met a wide variety of fine gentlemen and their attractive companions for the night. Having read the posts from the last 10 pages dozens of times, I had pre-decided to select Yoyo for the night. I asked BSDave about her, and he definitely hooked me up! Yoyo came, beautiful girl with a fun and spontaneous personality; she asked me if I wanted her and how could I refuse (I am inherently bad at saying no to pretty girls). Yoyo then ditched her previous party to sit with me, and I am pretty sure Dave played a big part in this. Joe also told me what a great ride I signed up for and I couldn't help but smile. There were about a dozen guys and a bit more than a dozen girls in the room and it got a little difficult to have everyone involved so we all just played our dice games in our respective corners. Yoyo, myself, a nice gentleman from Germany and his date joined in to play a new game of dice. Many weird rules were involved but the addition of taking an article of clothing off when someone rolled a certain digit really added fire to the game. This is where Yoyo's brilliance came in. She is a wild firecracker and is definitely not shy about revealing her body and adding sexiness to the room. Usually girls take off a shoe or sock or earring (what my neighbor's girl took off), but Yoyo was different. First came off her stockings, then her panties which she started flashing her trimmed pussy and then off came her bra. The whole time while playing the dice game, she was turning me on and knew what buttons to press. Sometimes she would grind me, then let me rub her pussy, then rub her breasts for good luck while rolling the dice (perhaps I am a KTV noob and gets turned on easier). Yoyo was exuding her sexiness all around and I think Yoyo's performance was also affecting my neighbor and we decided to leave earlier so we could have some sexy time with our ladies. Thinking in retrospect, I honestly do feel bad about leaving earlier and thus apologize to all in that room. I just don't think I could handle drinking anymore beer while lusting over my girl (perhaps I should get 1 pop out of the way and then come back to the KTV later).
The bedroom activities were pretty wild and the intensity was accurately foreshadowed by Joe. I carried her into the room (she is a spinner type, very nice body) and threw her onto the bed where she started to undress herself and me. Then she started licking and sucking me everywhere. She definitely knew what she was doing; Yoyo wasn't like a dog lapping everywhere, but more like a fine courtesan sensually turning me on with her soft lips and the twirl of her tongue. She got to my erection and did a great job polishing it, a superb BBBJ was given (surprised it was not toothy), very PSE and she even attempted DT which I thoroughly enjoyed. I was about to pop but decided to hold off and headed to the showers. In the shower she lathered me nicely and pampered me before going down on me again. I did try to DATY but was kindly rejected so I decided not to pursue that route. Sex was absolutely wild. She's down for any position you can imagine: Miss, CG, RCG, DG, Flat DG, Standing up etc. It was definitely a carnal marathon and we moved from the bed to the chair to the desk and even to the window. Sex went on for a long time (I think the alcohol makes it longer for me to finish). Yoyo gets props for being a real trooper, she didn't complain at all about the length of sex. It is an erection killer for me when a girl tells me to either hurry up and jizz or that she doesn't want to do it anymore. After sex we fell asleep. Here comes the minor imperfection for Yoyo, she is definitely a great fuck but not an intimate bed mate. I was also pre-warned by Joe about this trait of Yoyo's but decided to try my luck. I was hoping I could get lucky with the intimacy while sleeping issue but Yoyo told me she doesn't enjoy hugging someone or being hugged while sleeping, she also doesn't like it when you move too much in bed. I definitely did not have that great of a sleep, as I was hoping for some intimacy and also constantly thought about doing her again. Half way through the night I decided I couldn't handle it anymore, and thus put on a condom and began my mission to do Yoyo again. I knew she would probably protest and push me away but to my surprise I had it easy this time and thus proceeded to another fantastic round 2. After exhausting my body, I feel asleep.
Conclusion:
Thanks to everyone for making the night a memorable experience.
Fu Hao: WOW! Though I heard Hu Mei is just as extravagant.
Yoyo great in bed but not the best sleeping companion. She has a great body, fun to play with, definitely a great experience.
BSDave definitely is a great help and a valuable CP asset.
SEAJoe knows everything! I wish I could study under him in regards to this type of leisure activity.
Damage: black circles under eyes, sore thighs, one bruised arm (don't know how that happened), drained balls and 9 Maos.
I think I am still too green-horned and need a bit more P2P experience. For example I regret not asking for a third pop in the very morning, or using my video camera which I had prepared. This is definitely common knowledge for all experienced folks but I've learned that I absolutely can not be shy in these type of environment, just ask or demand and you will receive, don't ask and you might miss out. Perhaps I will write a guide for true KTV noobs.
Pointpanic
12-01-10, 06:56
Is to just call Dave and have him arrange everything for you. He is very reasonable.
Point Panic
Hi,
I will be traveling from Guangzhou to Shenzhen, but after reading so many glowing reviews about CP, I figure I'd be crazy not to stop by! What would my best option be? I will be there in the late morning or early afternoon for 2-3 hours. I don't want to spend too much, and she doesn't need to be a 10. I just want some raw, no-frills dirty fun, not too far from the train station during the day!
SE Asia Joe
12-01-10, 08:53
Is to just call Dave and have him arrange everything for you. He is very reasonable.
Point Panic
NO - sorry, but I don't think that given the specific requirements - that BS Dave would or could assist.
He books hotel rooms, arrange transport/logistics, saunas, footsies, hook guys up together in CP, arrange KTV parties (and hosts these) but he's no good at arranging/will not arrange for sex per se.
My recommendation to Tony6969 is just to go to a sauna there i.e. Hui Hua, Virgin, or Meibao, or Jindili - listed in order of Quality first.
Just IMHO
SEAJ
You did not specify 2 to 3 hours from a location. Is it DG station and your are a native speaker?
Unless you are totally aware of DG train station and destination sauna location. I would not risk it for just 3 hours based on my personal experience. Even to exit out of DG on the next train could take 30 to 40 minutes at the station during the evening. Cab time and WG parade and so forth another 20 mins. Sauna WG workout another 90 to 120 minutes. Math might add up but DG this is no Tokyo or Shanghai bullet at it's best when it come to time travel.
DG taxi ride could turn into a tour of DG with a wrong cab and for some reason when the cab driver sence the urge of urgency the price sky rockets and the service is slow. This is not your NY Cab service but someone who is making a basic living and charging what he thinks he can get. Do not be surprised by seeing a number typed in on a cell phone. That is the price.
Read SEAJ past comments in this thread of finding a cab acrosss the street and DG Station layout for greater safety.
Sounds like a real fun 2 to 3 hrs!
S7
Hi,
I will be traveling from Guangzhou to Shenzhen, but after reading so many glowing reviews about CP, I figure I'd be crazy not to stop by! What would my best option be? I will be there in the late morning or early afternoon for 2-3 hours. I don't want to spend too much, and she doesn't need to be a 10. I just want some raw, no-frills dirty fun, not too far from the train station during the day!
Business is booming in CP which is evidence by the grand opening of the Park Hyatt ( Po Yue 珀 悦 ) KTV today at the old Sindi Disco location which is right next to the Mayflower Hotel. It has 80 plus rooms in 4 different configurations on 3 floors. Some of the rooms have ceililing to floor windows overlooking a massive stage that will be completed by the end of the first week of December. Not all of the KTV rooms are new as some of the rooms were the remnant from the Sindi Disco era.
The KTV rooms consists of small 4-5 guys plus WGs (680 minimum); medium 5 - 6 guys plus WGs (1,080 min.); large 8 - 10 guys plus WGs (1,680 min.); and VIP 12- 15 guys plus WGs (3,880 min.). There are also four Villas built behind the main KTV buildings for private parties (intent of these villas are catered to local officials/celebrities and are only available to the public if it is not being used by the owner who also owns the Virgin hotel).
WG prices are 2-5-8; but majority of the WGs there are 3-6-10. There is a massive flower street similar to Mayflower on the first floor. The minimum number of WGs is estimated at 700 and upwards of a 1,000 in the weekends. Where they find these girls...I don't know...but I saw lots of familiar faces today as I was given a private tour by the management today.
Alcohol is a bit more expensive, for beers buy 2 doz. get 1 doz. free, red wine buy 3 bottles get 1 bottle free, and liquor buy 2 bottles get 1 bottle free.
Management told me that they are targeting upper middle class clientele and drugs are definitely not allowed in the establishment unlike the old Sindi Disco which cause the closure of it's own demise.
The interior of the new rooms are designed similar to the Regency hotel with less neon lights and with marble tables. The computer system are touch screen with a good selection of English songs. Whether we are able to bring our own MP3 music has not yet been confirmed so more to follow as we will be heading there this weekend to try out this new place to party.
More to follow...
BSDThe minimum number of WGs is estimated at 700 and upwards of a 1,000?
Your friend was so shocked after being kidnapped and beaten up and threatened with death, that he does not want to come back to Changping anymore?
Chinese New Year (CNY) is fast approaching and in China it is the biggest and most important holiday of the year. Millions of migrant workers will be returning home to celebrate with the family but without bringing sufficient funds home, they will lose face and be ridiculed by family members. From now until CNY (The year of the Rabbit will start on February 3, 2011), people coming to China should especially be careful of theft, robbery, pick-pockets, and most dangerously. Kidnapping.
On Tuesday, February 26, at approximately 3pm, I received a call from Worldguy saying that his friend is missing as they were supposed to meet at 1pm. I called the Clipper hotel manager and asked them to enter his room in case he was just sleeping or something may have happened to him medically but he was nowhere in sight and his belongings were inside the room untouched. Worldguy was quite alarmed because he himself was kidnapped once when he was in Beijing so he told the hotel manager to cancel his friend's room key in case someone other than his friend has it and try to enter his room and low and behold about an hour later, I got another call from him saying that a couple girls were trying to enter his friend's room. I told him to call security and immediately headed to the Clipper hotel. En route to the hotel I received another call from him and was advised that they have caught one of the two girls and instinctively I told him that no matter what, do not let the girl go; otherwise, we may never see his friend again. Once I arrived at the hotel, I was led to the security office and immediately I asked the girl where they were holding our friend. The woman disguised herself as a tout and said that our friend was at their shop looking at the girls and would not leave at his own choosing so I told her to call her friends at the shop so I can speak to our friend. Once connected, she spoke in some dialect I could not understood so I said to her in a loud voice to let me immediately talk to our friend, she gave the phone to me and 10 seconds later a scared timid voice came on the line speaking Chinese asking me to speak to him in English but at that point, I was speaking in English so I knew immediately something was wrong as our friend was so scared and nervous he didn't even realize I was speaking English to him. Once he realize that it was me on the phone, he starts speaking English and said, "please help me, help me, they kidnap me, they have beaten me, they say let the girl go and don't call the police or else, they will kill me. ", at that moment, I told him to stay calm and assure him that we will rescue him, I then immediately told the girl that I know the truth, told her that our friend has told me that he has been kidnapped and that if we don't see him in 10 minutes we will call the police. The girl panicked and started talking fast on the phone and once she hung up, I told her again that if we don't see our friend in 10 minutes, she will be royally screwed. I told her that our friend is from overseas and if he is hurt in any way, she and her assailants will be put away for life. The next 20 minutes was excruciating as in my mind I don't know if I had handled the situation properly under the circumstances. Fortunately, after 20 minutes, I got a phone call from our friend saying that he has been released and is on his way back to the hotel. Once he arrived at the hotel, we could see that he has been beaten up badly.
We were advised by the hotel to not call the police until our friend has been released as they have had experience in the past and that once the kidnappers know that you have contacted the police, we may not ever see our friend again. It took only about 10 minutes for the police to arrive and they took the girl, and ask the 3 of us plus one of the maid and two security guards to go to the police station for statements. Once we were at the station, we found out exactly what happened to our friend.
At approximately 1:30pm, our friend was shopping in the Pedestrian street area (this is the main shopping area in CP) and was approached by two ladies offering girls in a BBS type of setting. Our friend is Chinese who grew up in Canada but speaks fluent Putonghua. He has been to CP many times and have mongered throughout the world so he is no newbie. He was led to an apartment building nearby and one flight of stairs to the second floor. Once he enters the apartment, 3 guys jumped him. He tried to fight his way out of the apartment but was beaten badly. He was forced to give them his pin number for his ATM card and his room card at the hotel with the combination code for his safe. They force him to strip naked and took pictures of him and his documents and told him that if he cooperates with them, they will let him go and if he goes to the authorities then his pictures will be published on the internet.
This incident of course could have been avoided if he used some common sense, I. E. Don't go mongering alone especially to places that he is not familiar with, all the BBS except the one on top of the mini-store across the street from Yue Hua Hotel is on the ground floor. For most of us that has been to China, we all know that people are always running scams here praying on the unsuspecting tourists, so extra precautions should be taken, always trust your gut feeling and if you feel something is not right, then stay clear and return to your hotel as soon as possible.
Our friend was extremely lucky and last heard, the police has a full confession from the girl that was captured by the security guards, and she has cooperated fully with the police, and has given up all her accomplices and the location of the crime scene.
Remember that if you are in China and especially in CP to be extra cautious of your surroundings and don't let your guard down whether you are out and about or inside your hotel room with your girl. Use your "big" head and you should have a fantastic time here in CP.
BSD
Pointpanic
12-02-10, 11:06
I would defer to Joe's advice.
NO - sorry, but I don't think that given the specific requirements - that BS Dave would or could assist.
He books hotel rooms, arrange transport/logistics, saunas, footsies, hook guys up together in CP, arrange KTV parties (and hosts these) but he's no good at arranging/will not arrange for sex per se.
My recommendation to Tony6969 is just to go to a sauna there i.e. Hui Hua, Virgin, or Meibao, or Jindili - listed in order of Quality first.
Just IMHO
SEAJ
CP sauna in 3 hours is doable. get to train station, find taxi tell them 30 (yes you are overpaying but they will not get lost then..) 30 will get you a cab with no arguing or chinese language (3 and 0 with your hands).
Next say Hui Hua... even english speakers can say that. sounds like it looks.
go to 4th floor, ask for Lucy or Miqi. then it will seem like you know someone.
pick girl quickly (you have about 15 min to pick)
do you 2 hours.
go to bottom floor, avoid black cars near door (unless you are pressed for time they will want 50 for train). However if you really want to get back there quick, find english speaker in lobby (huihua has them) and tell them you want to go to train station and they will tell one of those black cars. perhaps you can do it that way - HH might even have a shuttle.
Go to street and ask for Huo Che Zhan (huo ch tsan) three words train station.
you could contact BSD and he could supply you with a driver for to and fro but you'd be looking at 30-40 each way (he has to wait for you and find you), not much in it for a guide though.
SE Asia Joe
12-03-10, 16:46
CP sauna in 3 hours is doable. get to train station, find taxi tell them 30 (yes you are overpaying but they will not get lost then..) 30 will get you a cab with no arguing or chinese language (3 and 0 with your hands).
Next say Hui Hua... even english speakers can say that. sounds like it looks.
go to 4th floor, ask for Lucy or Miqi. then it will seem like you know someone.
pick girl quickly (you have about 15 min to pick)
do you 2 hours.
go to bottom floor, avoid black cars near door (unless you are pressed for time they will want 50 for train). However if you really want to get back there quick, find english speaker in lobby (huihua has them) and tell them you want to go to train station and they will tell one of those black cars. perhaps you can do it that way - HH might even have a shuttle.
Go to street and ask for Huo Che Zhan (huo ch tsan) three words train station.
you could contact BSD and he could supply you with a driver for to and fro but you'd be looking at 30-40 each way (he has to wait for you and find you), not much in it for a guide though.
Kinda unfortunate that tony6969 is gonna be in such a rush.
Picking up guys, arranging for saunas etc BS Dave would usually just do it gratis as part of the service (or perhaps, a better word would be "friendship") he gives to the guys he handles.
He's just that way.
SEAJ
Big Swingin Dave
12-03-10, 18:00
We were at the new Park Hyatt KTV on Wednesday with 7 guys. Found out that this place is trying to be the first place in CP to have 3-6-9 or above WGs. After the testing period is over and is finally "officially" opened, then there is rumor that they will also have 5-10-15 girls there as well. Well, in my opinion, this may not last long if their business suffers as most of the girls that they have comes from either Mayflower or Lion KTVs where they were 2-5-8 girls. They have a flower street on the first level and it is estimate that they have around 500 plus girls at this moment.
The beer price was 40RMB per beer (buy 2 dozs. get 1 doz. free). With the higher cost in alcohol and WG tips, it will be tough for both the establishment and the WGs to survive when there are so many other choices still in the area. The Swan Lake area alone has 10 KTVs alone. Unless the girls are a cut above, I don't forsee that they will be able to keep the "all" 3-6-9 category. Many of the WGs will suffer with a sitting fee only and when the girls start leaving then perhaps they will start lowering the prices. It is rumored that CP is moving toward the 3-6-9 across the board. I guess time will tell...
BSD
Sardaukar1
12-04-10, 00:48
Dave,
In your opinion, is the average quality at Park Hyatt even close to being "a cut above" other rivals in CP?
How would you rate the girls at Hyatt versus the girls at Royal Garden KTV, in terms of physical appearance? I know each guy's taste is different and all, but I think yours is similar to mine hence the inquiry.
We were at the new Park Hyatt KTV on Wednesday with 7 guys. Found out that this place is trying to be the first place in CP to have 3-6-9 or above WGs. After the testing period is over and is finally "officially" opened, then there is rumor that they will also have 5-10-15 girls there as well. Well, in my opinion, this may not last long if their business suffers as most of the girls that they have comes from either Mayflower or Lion KTVs where they were 2-5-8 girls. They have a flower street on the first level and it is estimate that they have around 500 plus girls at this moment.
The beer price was 40RMB per beer (buy 2 dozs. get 1 doz. free). With the higher cost in alcohol and WG tips, it will be tough for both the establishment and the WGs to survive when there are so many other choices still in the area. The Swan Lake area alone has 10 KTVs alone. Unless the girls are a cut above, I don't forsee that they will be able to keep the "all" 3-6-9 category. Many of the WGs will suffer with a sitting fee only and when the girls start leaving then perhaps they will start lowering the prices. It is rumored that CP is moving toward the 3-6-9 across the board. I guess time will tell...
BSD
With a little bit of good fortune, in 24 hours I will be in CP and getting ready to party with Jettsetter and a few other fun guys in the land of milk and honey!
Planning on at least 3 days to sample a few of the offerings that make CP a "wonder land"....
I think I will finally try one of the BBS and saunas this time around for a little variety!
See you there!
Sky
Thanks! I may check out hui hua. Does the sanua take a long time? Like, is there a ritual to go through, with putting your clothes in a locker and paying someone, and after having to wait for your clothes, etc? Would a bbs be smarter for me, ie quicker? Any good bbs near the train station?
Thanks!
QUOTE=Freepeaks]CP sauna in 3 hours is doable. Get to train station, find taxi tell them 30 (yes you are overpaying but they will not get lost then.) 30 will get you a cab with no arguing or Chinese language (3 and 0 with your hands).
Next say Hui Hua. Even english speakers can say that. Sounds like it looks.
Go to 4th floor, ask for Lucy or Miqi. Then it will seem like you know someone.
Pick girl quickly (you have about 15 min to pick)
Do you 2 hours.
Go to bottom floor, avoid black cars near door (unless you are pressed for time they will want 50 for train). However if you really want to get back there quick, find english speaker in lobby (huihua has them) and tell them you want to go to train station and they will tell one of those black cars. Perhaps you can do it that way. HH might even have a shuttle.
Go to street and ask for Huo Che Zhan (huo ch tsan) three words train station.
You could contact BSD and he could supply you with a driver for to and fro but you'd be looking at 30-40 each way (he has to wait for you and find you), not much in it for a guide though.[/QUOTE]
I lurked, I saw, I went, I came x 5.
Flipping sprained my finger too but all in a worthy cause. All in a days line of booty duty.
Back to my hemritage.
Wapec
Arrive train station. Save 30 bucks. Walk out across the main road and into the Hotel next to Cafe de Coral. Head up to the sauna in there ask for a parade. Choose your floozy and your a doozy. Job done with time to spare within a 3 hour limit. Hell you could even do a second gal or go for a CIM.
JMPOV
Wapec
CP sauna in 3 hours is doable. get to train station, find taxi tell them 30 (yes you are overpaying but they will not get lost then..) 30 will get you a cab with no arguing or chinese language (3 and 0 with your hands).
Next say Hui Hua... even english speakers can say that. sounds like it looks.
go to 4th floor, ask for Lucy or Miqi. then it will seem like you know someone.
pick girl quickly (you have about 15 min to pick)
do you 2 hours.
go to bottom floor, avoid black cars near door (unless you are pressed for time they will want 50 for train). However if you really want to get back there quick, find english speaker in lobby (huihua has them) and tell them you want to go to train station and they will tell one of those black cars. perhaps you can do it that way - HH might even have a shuttle.
Go to street and ask for Huo Che Zhan (huo ch tsan) three words train station.
you could contact BSD and he could supply you with a driver for to and fro but you'd be looking at 30-40 each way (he has to wait for you and find you), not much in it for a guide though.
Sardaukar1
12-04-10, 18:33
The quality that can be found in that sauna is questionable at best... Seems a waste for the guy to have travelled all the way to CP only to save 30rmb taxi care in return for lesser quality.
Arrive train station. Save 30 bucks. Walk out across the main road and into the Hotel next to Cafe de Coral. Head up to the sauna in there ask for a parade. Choose your floozy and your a doozy. Job done with time to spare within a 3 hour limit. Hell you could even do a second gal or go for a CIM.
JMPOV
Wapec
Poorbutthappy
12-04-10, 21:19
It's The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year. Not because Christmas is coming but because it is almost end of the year and then it is the tax season. I am expecting a low 4 digit tax return this year that will translate into another trip to CP. I always look forward to my tax return so I can get some money back and make a trip to CP. I hope to party with some high rollers at least once on this trip. At least one of the high rollers had offered me an all expense paid KTV outing for one night next time we both are in CP but I have not seen any post from this individual for many months now and I just checked and this individual has not logged on this site for as many months. I know this individual is still a member as his ID still exists and he is not banned or anything. Unfortunately, I do not have his contact information so hopefully this individual sees this post and checks his PM and sends me his contact information. I will be in CP either end of January or first part of February depending on how fast I get my money back from uncle Sam.
Do suanas in CP compare to 18 on Macau?
I've heard stories about 18. Any chance I can get the same type of experience in CP without going to Macau?
Quantity wise, etc how is cp from january 20 to febuary 05? or so. or is it better to come in end of march. thanks
Bob Sacamano
12-07-10, 13:30
Quantity wise, etc how is cp from january 20 to febuary 05? or so. or is it better to come in end of march. thanks
CNY will be Feb. 3, so CP might be kind of dry during the period that you're asking about. Maybe some other CP vets can give us some insight. I think that most girls return to their hometowns during the period 2 weeks before and after the CNY day.
I've been to CP the past couple of years about 2 or 3 weeks before CNY and was told that it was relatively quiet, but I felt that there was no shortage of fun to be had. :)
Mister Pink
12-08-10, 05:45
Excellent! I will be in Xiamen then waiting with open arms for the CP Xiamen born girls who might need to earn some spending $$$ while home for the Holiday. Will save me a trip to CP! Official end to Holiday is the 17th Lantern Festival (a Thursday) but my co-workers will return to work the 9th. It was quiet in XMN after October 1 for 2 weeks but thankfully that did not last long. In January all the girls were working hard to earn $$$ to go home for CNY, I do not see a problem for you.
CNY will be Feb. 3, so CP might be kind of dry during the period that you're asking about. Maybe some other CP vets can give us some insight. I think that most girls return to their hometowns during the period 2 weeks before and after the CNY day.
I've been to CP the past couple of years about 2 or 3 weeks before CNY and was told that it was relatively quiet, but I felt that there was no shortage of fun to be had. .
Mister Pink
12-08-10, 05:55
In 8 weeks I will 1st go to 18 then CP, both 1st time visits, I will let you know my first impressions. From all I read 18 is well beyond my normal monger budget but well worth the experience. I am spoiled in Xiamen though, even HK saunas are now 3 or 4 times what I normally spend.
Do suanas in CP compare to 18 on Macau?
I've heard stories about 18. Any chance I can get the same type of experience in CP without going to Macau?
Quantity wise, etc how is cp from january 20 to febuary 05? or so. or is it better to come in end of march. thanksLee,
Most of the gal usually leave a week or two before cny to go back to their home towns. They usually don't come back until after cny, usually about a week to ten days afterward. It is going to be slim pickings on your dates at best. Try to some to CP a week earlier or so.
Good Luck.
I got Rained Out last night in CP.
Business should be a'boomin. But without parties, it's a night of "Where's the pussy at?"
Guys who were here the end of November, I hate you guys.
That is all.
Was in CP last three days. Business is still much as usual in my favourite places, I. E, Huimei sauna and Fuhao KTV. There are still plenty of girls at the back of Huimei. As usual, the pretty ones offer lousy service at the sauna and want to go home even though initially promised to stay overnight.
CNY is approaching, so the scene will become quieter in the coming weeks.
Eddy
. As usual, the pretty ones offer lousy service at the sauna and want to go home even though initially promised to stay overnightYou mean the pretty KTV girls offer lousy service and want to go home right? Or have you gotten sauna girls to stay overnight?
You mean the pretty KTV girls offer lousy service and want to go home right? Or have you gotten sauna girls to stay overnight?Yes, I meant pretty KTV girls. Sauna girls as a rule don't go to hotel to stay overnight because they knock off at 3 am. I had one 10 JS at Huamei who just wanted to chat and do the deed with absolutely no service. PM me if you want to know who, but I will not recommend her.
Eddy
Alright guys. Is CP really that much more fun than SZ? I don't want to give too much of a high expectation if you guys know what I mean. How would you guys rate CP compared to mongering in HK, Macao, or SZ?
Big Swingin Dave
12-12-10, 06:38
Last night we returned to the newly opened Park Hyatt and discovered that they have as predicted start offering WGs at 2-5-8. They also have 3-6-10 girls as well but did not see any 5-15-20 girls. Additionally, business must not be so good as they are offering 20% discount off the entire bill which now make it a viable place to party. The girl selections last night was good but must show up early (6pm) as the good quality ones get snatched up quickly.
BSD
Big Swingin Dave
12-12-10, 12:11
Yes. Another new 5 STARS (Chinese standard) hotel is openieng up in Changping. This new hotel is located behind the Main Bus Terminal which is across the street from the train station. The promotional rate for the hotel rooms are as follows:
Business single 338RMB.
Deluxe single 358RMB.
Deluxe twin 358RMB.
Business premium view 378RMB.
Deluxe suite 528RMB.
88 KTV rooms will be available for booking during the testing period with over 100 plus rooms available when fully opened in January. Small room starts at 680 ranging to VIP rooms at 3, 888. WGs will be split in 3 categories: 2-6-9; 3-8-12; and 5-15-20. The KTV will be opened on Tuesday, December 14th.
Will give full report of this new place to party at a later time.
BSD
I got Rained Out last night in CP.
Business should be a'boomin. But without parties, it's a night of "Where's the pussy at?"
Guys who were here the end of November, I hate you guys.
That is all. Hey Bruce,
I think we are in the same boat, it seems I have picked up the temporary moniker of "ppd", since my party was "postponed" two nights in a row!.)
However I did get a call today from a Pennisula beauty that wanted to know when I would return. Humm
Last night we returned to the newly opened Park Hyatt and discovered that they have as predicted start offering WGs at 2-5-8. They also have 3-6-10 girls as well ...I was at that party with like 10 other guys, including JTraveler and other non-ISG friends. Everyone came early (6pm) to pick but had a hard time picking. Too few girls at the moment. There were two rows of girls sitting on small stools so that was kinda weird. Mommies only had like 12 girls to pick from. I'd say the total number that night was like 300 girls. The mommies were HOT, that's for sure. I'd also mention that many girls came LATE. As the guys were strolling around, more and more girls came in. Not sure why, but I guess the newness of the establishment makes everything kinda disorganized.
2/5/8 girls had a smaller butterfly looking pink tag.
3/7/10 girls had a round purple tag.
Girls who just started working at that place wore those green butterfly tags.
Guys picked and truth be told all were beauties. I picked some girl who was late but was hippity-hopping around the entrance so I chatted her up and picked her. 2/5/8 girl who was spritely and very fun even before a sip of alcohol.
The room looks sooo much like Regency Hotel's KTV. Tables of marble, shelves like you'd find in a den, and brightly lighted. Guys and girls filled the room and began playing games. The girls we all picked had good attitudes. There were at least 4 guys who did not speak a lick of Chinese, but their companions were by their sides the whole time teaching them the games and making it fun for them. My girl was bouncing around and dancing. She can have fun even by herself with no one paying attention to her. Very upbeat gal.
The bill came out around 300 per person plus a small fee for the DJs. Lots of beer consumed and still leftover. No dancing but still fun in a typical KTV way.
Can't really give this place a thumbs up or a thumbs down, because of the newness of the place, they still need to find their uniqueness and what distinguishes them apart from other KTVs. The girls come from all over so they don't know what to do really. The flower street was small and not that great. The room needs to be dimmed so groping can be done without everyone staring (and pretending not to. Haha). The party was fun because of the games and the guys are veteran partiers, but the KTV needs to find that "something" for guys to return. The girls are good though, with several tall ones to find.
And no, I'm not a fan of 3/7/10 or anything higher than that price structure. A select group of 30-50 is fine, but if half the girls are in that price range, it's really ridiculous because that's just insulting the guy's wallet.
Just got back from a satisfying nine days in CP. Went there with a friend and partied with a bunch of guys. Didn't catch all their handles but the ones I got were Maxkwalat, Sky Ryder, Hungryguy and Jetsetter. Thanks again to BSD for his help. He sets up cool KTV parties and helps keep the spirits up when things slow down, especially when there are a number of non-native speakers in attendance.
Went to just 3 KTV establishments (3x Fuhao. 3x Mayflower. 1x Peninsula) on this trip, but no complaints here as Fuhao was my fave from the last trip and Mayflower has moved right behind it. Did a couple repeats as I am a sucker when it comes to seeing the the same girl in the lineup a second time. I tend to find service is better the second time around. As you can probably tell, I am a GFE type of guy.
Saw the infamous YoYo, and she did not disappoint. She is as wild as advertised. Blowing or trying to blow every guy in room. I was actually scared of her. Some of the other girls in room even looked at her with shocked faces. She's like an untamed Amazon on the loose.
I finally made it to a sauna on this trip. Went to Hui Hua and picked out a small chested beautiful face. Rookie mistake. Always go with the body in a sauna. Very professional experience as each step was performed and mission was accomplished with 2 pops. Definitely much needed after 4 days of KTVs. I'm a KTV guy but saunas offer a nice change of pace and a almost guaranteed pop.
I plan to go back in end of March for a couple weeks. So Bruce, get your calendar out. Hope to some of you guys there.
Went to just 3 KTV establishments (3x Fuhao. 3x Mayflower. 1x Peninsula) on this trip, but no complaints here as Fuhao was my fave from the last trip and Mayflower has moved right behind it. Heard prices going up across the board. Are all these places still 2/5/8, or have they gone to 3/7/10?
Can I ask why Fuhao was your fave? Selection, the look / type of the girls etc. ?
Thanks
Heard prices going up across the board. Are all these places still 2/5/8, or have they gone to 3/7/10?
Can I ask why Fuhao was your fave? Selection, the look / type of the girls etc. ?
ThanksI think the higher prices are happening in the newer KTVs. I'm hoping they won't extend to the older ones. I would think the higher supply would keep prices down but this is China where economics work in a bizarro way.
Fuhao has more of the type of girl I'm attracted to. Its hard to describe in words but I know it when I see it. Also, I like the lighting which allows for better judgment. Maybe past experiences have skewed my opinion but I have had a good track rate there in terms of my selections. But as one ISGer told me, you only need one to click with. Mayflower is also very good but the dark lighting makes it a bit more difficult to choose. In my opinion, the key is always to get there early. The sooner the better. And I never pick a girl that looks disinterested.
Robin Mill
12-14-10, 09:04
I think the higher prices are happening in the newer KTVs. I'm hoping they won't extend to the older ones. I would think the higher supply would keep prices down but this is China where economics work in a bizarro way.
Fuhao has more of the type of girl I'm attracted to. Its hard to describe in words but I know it when I see it. Also, I like the lighting which allows for better judgment. Maybe past experiences have skewed my opinion but I have had a good track rate there in terms of my selections. But as one ISGer told me, you only need one to click with. Mayflower is also very good but the dark lighting makes it a bit more difficult to choose. In my opinion, the key is always to get there early. The sooner the better. And I never pick a girl that looks disinterested. And Fuhao has a good list of LINKIN PARK songs! No other KTV match it! .
SE Asia Joe
12-14-10, 10:39
And Fuhao has a good list of LINKIN PARK songs! No other KTV match it! .Linkin Park songs?
How painful.
SEAJ
Bob Sacamano
12-15-10, 15:02
I'll be in CP middle of next month and I hope to see some of you brothers there.
Does anybody have any information about buying a train ticket from CP to Guilin? Can I buy it in CP (or DG) , or do I have to buy it in SZ? And can I board the train in CP or DG?
Last January, upon my arrival in SZ (Luohu Station) , I bought a ticket to Nanjing (a much farther trip than to Guilin, I know) for three days later. After three days of fun in CP, I took the train back to SZ Luohu, then a long-ass bus ride to some station where the trains to Nanjing depart from (I think it was called SZ east or west). Well, guess where the train's first stop was? DG East railway station. All of that travel back to SZ could have been avoided. Okay, I could have asked when I purchased the ticket but I had no idea of the train's route. I'll ask this time.
So if anyone knows info about the long-distance trains from CP, please reply. Thanks in advance.
SE Asia Joe
12-15-10, 18:28
I'll be in CP middle of next month and I hope to see some of you brothers there.
Does anybody have any information about buying a train ticket from CP to Guilin? Can I buy it in CP (or DG) , or do I have to buy it in SZ? And can I board the train in CP or DG?
Last January, upon my arrival in SZ (Luohu Station) , I bought a ticket to Nanjing (a much farther trip than to Guilin, I know) for three days later. After three days of fun in CP, I took the train back to SZ Luohu, then a long-ass bus ride to some station where the trains to Nanjing depart from (I think it was called SZ east or west). Well, guess where the train's first stop was? DG East railway station. All of that travel back to SZ could have been avoided. Okay, I could have asked when I purchased the ticket but I had no idea of the train's route. I'll ask this time.
So if anyone knows info about the long-distance trains from CP, please reply. Thanks in advance. Huh. Kramer didn't know either?
Anyway, I suggest going only to Guangdong first.
K36 / K37 Guangzhou. Guilin 17:50. 06:30 12:40 883 km Hard Seat: $17.
Soft Seat: $28.
Hard Sleeper: $31.
Soft Sleeper: $48
T38 / T39 Guangzhou. Guilin 19:47. 07:01 13:10 883 km Hard Seat: $17.
Soft Seat: $28.
Hard Sleeper: $31.
Soft Sleeper: $48
http://www.chinahighlights.com/china-trains/search-result.asp?Txt_FZ=Guangzhou&SearchType=A&Txt_DZ=Guilin&x=22&y=8
And from there you just go on the CRH fast train to CP directly.
Another web site for Guilin trains.
http://www.trax2.cn/train-timetables/guilin-shenzhen_T37.html
SEAJ
Mit Fo Lfe
12-16-10, 02:39
I was at that party with like 10 other guys, including JTraveler and other non-ISG friends. Everyone came early (6pm) to pick but had a hard time picking. Too few girls at the moment. There were two rows of girls sitting on small stools so that was kinda weird. Mommies only had like 12 girls to pick from. I'd say the total number that night was like 300 girls. The mommies were HOT, that's for sure. I'd also mention that many girls came LATE. As the guys were strolling around, more and more girls came in. Not sure why, but I guess the newness of the establishment makes everything kinda disorganized.
2/5/8 girls had a smaller butterfly looking pink tag.
3/7/10 girls had a round purple tag.
Girls who just started working at that place wore those green butterfly tags.
Guys picked and truth be told all were beauties. I picked some girl who was late but was hippity-hopping around the entrance so I chatted her up and picked her. 2/5/8 girl who was spritely and very fun even before a sip of alcohol.
The room looks sooo much like Regency Hotel's KTV. Tables of marble, shelves like you'd find in a den, and brightly lighted. Guys and girls filled the room and began playing games. The girls we all picked had good attitudes. There were at least 4 guys who did not speak a lick of Chinese, but their companions were by their sides the whole time teaching them the games and making it fun for them. My girl was bouncing around and dancing. She can have fun even by herself with no one paying attention to her. Very upbeat gal.
The bill came out around 300 per person plus a small fee for the DJs. Lots of beer consumed and still leftover. No dancing but still fun in a typical KTV way.
Can't really give this place a thumbs up or a thumbs down, because of the newness of the place, they still need to find their uniqueness and what distinguishes them apart from other KTVs. The girls come from all over so they don't know what to do really. The flower street was small and not that great. The room needs to be dimmed so groping can be done without everyone staring (and pretending not to. Haha). The party was fun because of the games and the guys are veteran partiers, but the KTV needs to find that "something" for guys to return. The girls are good though, with several tall ones to find.
And no, I'm not a fan of 3/7/10 or anything higher than that price structure. A select group of 30-50 is fine, but if half the girls are in that price range, it's really ridiculous because that's just insulting the guy's wallet. What. Where was bai ling this night?
Haha, I'm the one who gave her that name!
What. Where was bai ling this night?
Mit Fo Lfe
12-16-10, 04:58
Haha, I'm the one who gave her that name!Yup she totally looked like her with that haircut! Wonder how rainout was able to go out without her that night.
Flat Stamp
12-16-10, 06:00
Will be in town this weekend!
Looking forward to seeing the bros.
Yo BSD, as usual. I lost your number. But I guess I'll find your contacts via the fine ladies from the front desk of swan lake!
BruceTea & Friends, see you around again. Didn't think I'd see you so soon.
Hope to see some good parties this weekend and next.
Flat Stamp
12-16-10, 06:20
Will be in town this weekend!
Looking forward to seeing the bros.
Yo BSD, as usual. I lost your number. But I guess I'll find your contacts via the fine ladies from the front desk of swan lake!
BruceTea & Friends, see you around again. Didn't think I'd see you so soon.
Hope to see some good parties this weekend and next.
Flat Stamp
12-16-10, 11:56
Me and some boys are visiting. Looking forward to seeing some of you bros soon.
Thomas Jefferson
12-16-10, 14:57
WGs will be split in 3 categories: 2-6-9; 3-8-12; and 5-15-20.
BSDI am not so familiar with KTV, so please can you explain what these numbers mean? Thanks.
Will be in shenzhen next year and want to visit KTV there.
Thomas Jefferson
Robin Mill
12-16-10, 15:17
Linkin Park songs?
How painful.
SEAJWait till you hear me and Dave sing duet to Linkin Park. How should I be it. Orgasmics. Right Dave? .
Hello everyone,
I'd Changping on December 24 to January 3, and then a few days on Hong Kong and Macau, while some are available that make me a sign, thank you.
SE Asia Joe
12-16-10, 16:14
Wait till you hear me and Dave sing duet to Linkin Park. How should I be it. Orgasmics. Right Dave? .Ohmigawd. Multi-orgasmic!
SEAJ
Yup she totally looked like her with that haircut! Wonder how rainout was able to go out without her that night.She. Was. There. (kick the stool)
She "allowed" me to pick and I think I got lucky finding a great gal who was also on her period. So problem solved, right? Wrong! She got into a hissy fit around 10 pm just cause she got jealous and we had to leave. I rarely leave KTVs so early and you guys know I like to hang out even after the party. Anyhoo, on that note, she's becoming gf-like and gf's are a freakin drag at KTVs. (Kicks stool again)
The girl I picked was fun as heck. Not my type of gal cause she's too wild and very open, but I think MIT, Jett and others would love her. Great attitude and always in a good mood. Don't know about her tits cause she's got a sweater on and I'm sure her pussy smells great (for MIT and Freepeaks). Damn, maybe I SHOULD'VE done her. (kicks stool AGAIN and AGAIN)
Mit Fo Lfe
12-16-10, 18:09
She. Was. There. (kick the stool)
She "allowed" me to pick and I think I got lucky finding a great gal who was also on her period. So problem solved, right? Wrong! She got into a hissy fit around 10 pm just cause she got jealous and we had to leave. I rarely leave KTVs so early and you guys know I like to hang out even after the party. Anyhoo, on that note, she's becoming gf-like and gf's are a freakin drag at KTVs. (Kicks stool again)
The girl I picked was fun as heck. Not my type of gal cause she's too wild and very open, but I think MIT, Jett and others would love her. Great attitude and always in a good mood. Don't know about her tits cause she's got a sweater on and I'm sure her pussy smells great (for MIT and Freepeaks). Damn, maybe I SHOULD'VE done her. (kicks stool AGAIN and AGAIN) Wait didn't you and bai ling get into it the last time I was there when we were at fuhao? Same shit again right? Can't pick because it's her 'house? '. Did you get her number atleast? Which KTV was this at BTW? Hope to catch you in Dg next year!
Able Baker
12-16-10, 20:01
I am not so familiar with KTV, so please can you explain what these numbers mean? Thanks.
Will be in shenzhen next year and want to visit KTV there.
Thomas JeffersonShort time / long time / overnight
Sardaukar1
12-17-10, 02:14
Alright guys. Is CP really that much more fun than SZ? I don't want to give too much of a high expectation if you guys know what I mean. How would you guys rate CP compared to mongering in HK, Macao, or SZ?There must be a reason why all the experienced punters are flocking to CP, don't you think?
Short time / long time / overnightClose.
Sitting fee / short time / long time (overnight)
Sitting fee is for her to sit and drink and play with you
Short time is sitting fee plus one pop back at your hotel
Long time (overnight) is sitting fee plus one pop back at your hotel plus sleeping overnight until morning with a morning pop.
Tips such as cab fare is up to you.
Hello, everyone,
I'd Changping on December 24 to January 3, and then a few days on Hong Kong and Macau, while some are available that make me a sign, thank you. Hey dude, hope you check out the Classified Sections. You will find one or two guides who help people arrange KTV gatherings in Chang Ping. If you can PM then you can PM a senior member (or an old-fogie like SEAJ). If you don't have PM, read through the old threads and you should find relevant info that can help you in CP even if you go solo.
Good luck!
Bob Sacamano
12-17-10, 15:23
Huh. Kramer didn't know either?
Anyway, I suggest going only to Guangdong first.
K36 / K37 Guangzhou. Guilin 17:50. 06:30 12:40 883 km Hard Seat: $17.
Soft Seat: $28.
Hard Sleeper: $31.
Soft Sleeper: $48
T38 / T39 Guangzhou. Guilin 19:47. 07:01 13:10 883 km Hard Seat: $17.
Soft Seat: $28.
Hard Sleeper: $31.
Soft Sleeper: $48.
http://www.chinahighlights.com/china-trains/search-result.asp?Txt_FZ=Guangzhou&SearchType=A&Txt_DZ=Guilin&x=22&y=8
And from there you just go on the CRH fast train to CP directly.
Another web site for Guilin trains.
http://www.trax2.cn/train-timetables/guilin-shenzhen_T37.html
SEAJWhen I asked Kramer, he said that I should know that train information.
Thank you for those links. You've answered my question, the trains from SZ. GL don't stop in DG. I'll figure out which city works out best for me as a starting point, SZ or Guangzhou.
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Anyone heard of this service before?
Is a threesome thing in sauna. Not sure where.
SE Asia Joe
12-19-10, 16:50
Alright guys. Is CP really that much more fun than SZ? I don't want to give too much of a high expectation if you guys know what I mean. How would you guys rate CP compared to mongering in HK, Macao, or SZ?OK. I'll admit it. This having to stay close to home and hearth during this "festive season" is driving me completely bonkers and YES, I do have too much time!
To give you the answer. I'll give you statistics from our own ISG forum pages, listing out the
1) various locations. 2) the number of reports 3) accumulative from date 4) number of page views.
A. Shenzhen 3, 875 reports from 1-1-07, viewed 1, 324, 557 times.
B. Dongguan / CP 4, 656 reports from 12-31-08, viewed 1, 148, 112 times.
C. Shanghai 3, 025 reports since 1-1-09 viewed 3, 172, 325 times.
D. Hong Kong 4, 577 reports since 12-31-06 viewed 1, 968, 796 times.
E. Macau 2, 054 reports since 5-20-02 viewed 491, 187 times.
What does the above scream at you? Howzabout.
- That the dongguan / CP thread by far has the most number of threads posted per year. So its either that the place must really be great for it to have so many reports on it. Or else of course that we've got too many serial posters like me on it!
- That not enough ISG readers actually look at all the great stuff that's happening in CP as evidenced by the relatively measley number of views.
Jackson oughta give us all who posts here a free 1 day membership to ISG in gratitude!
LOL.
SEAJ
Hey Dave.
Thanks for taking us around, and arranging the car to pick up my friend from the Guangzhou airport.
I'll recommend you to any of my friends interested in mongering,
Good luck in your adventures.
I do want to come back and try out Yo-Yo, ha
Flat Stamp
12-21-10, 05:41
He has been super awesome (again) for this trip.
Organized everything for me and my bros when they were in town, took care of every last bit of detail.
This is not a paid announcement. Just really credit where credit is due.
BSDave's services and arrangements is what makes the CP experience multiple times. Even if you've been here before.
Enuff said! Haha. Alright I'm heading to CP next week or the week after. Need to book a hotel room at Clipper then try out pozolim and Fuhao KTV. Can I have yoyo? Dave seems pretty busy, still looking forward to his emails! I went to SZ before and Macao before but really looking forward to CP!
OK. I'll admit it. This having to stay close to home and hearth during this "festive season" is driving me completely bonkers and YES, I do have too much time!
To give you the answer. I'll give you statistics from our own ISG forum pages, listing out the
1) various locations. 2) the number of reports 3) accumulative from date 4) number of page views.
A. Shenzhen 3, 875 reports from 1-1-07, viewed 1, 324, 557 times.
B. Dongguan / CP 4, 656 reports from 12-31-08, viewed 1, 148, 112 times.
C. Shanghai 3, 025 reports since 1-1-09 viewed 3, 172, 325 times.
D. Hong Kong 4, 577 reports since 12-31-06 viewed 1, 968, 796 times.
E. Macau 2, 054 reports since 5-20-02 viewed 491, 187 times.
What does the above scream at you? Howzabout.
- That the dongguan / CP thread by far has the most number of threads posted per year. So its either that the place must really be great for it to have so many reports on it. Or else of course that we've got too many serial posters like me on it!
- That not enough ISG readers actually look at all the great stuff that's happening in CP as evidenced by the relatively measley number of views.
Jackson oughta give us all who posts here a free 1 day membership to ISG in gratitude!
LOL.
SEAJ
I'm in CP for a while. Any ISG guys want to meet please send me a PM.
I'm in CP for a while. Any ISG guys want to meet please send me a PM.Hi,
I'm from hk and would like to meet up, is there any chance?
Sorry I dunno how to use pm function.
I noticied the hotel staff at the major CP hotels have access to live english tanslation, if needed. This is for the small hotels too in CP. It is not unusual to be handed the cell or phone line to speak into.
I am not sure if all the hotels have a guide on duty but Clipper does. Aya Clipper!
I'm in CP for a while. Any ISG guys want to meet please send me a PM.
I'm in CP for a while. Any ISG guys want to meet please send me a PM.Santa;
Why the heck are you in CP. Who is minding the store. You can't take off for vacation while all of the Christmas present still need to be deliver. You promise me a few "white tiger" gals for Christmas morning. Am I getting a delivery or not. Get back to your sleigh. Now. Bad Santa. Bad Santa.
I'm in CP for a while. Any ISG guys want to meet please send me a PM.Hey Santa.
Are you in CP dropping off my ten cases of Razors and Creme. If so, thanks. Please don't tell SEAJoe that it is for me. Lets just keep it a secret. BTW. Thanks for dropping it off. Just leave it in the will call at JiaYi KTV. Fun, Fun Fun.
SE Asia Joe
12-23-10, 06:16
I noticied the hotel staff at the major CP hotels have access to live english tanslation, if needed. This is for the small hotels too in CP. It is not unusual to be handed the cell or phone line to speak into.
I am not sure if all the hotels have a guide on duty but Clipper does. Aya Clipper! So. You talked to BS Dave huh?
LOL!
SEAJ
Mostly female voice on the other end except for one. I think he was the owner, off-site manager or just a translator of this small hotel who gave the direction to staff to show me the room. What does BS Dave sound like?
So. You talked to BS Dave huh?
LOL!
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
12-23-10, 14:25
Hey Santa.
Are you in CP dropping off my ten cases of Razors and Creme. If so, thanks. Please don't tell SEAJoe that it is for me. Lets just keep it a secret. BTW. Thanks for dropping it off. Just leave it in the will call at JiaYi KTV. Fun, Fun Fun. Hye bn. You still on this hang-up about shaving gals.
What is it now. One. Two years. And you're still writing same-o same-o?
Why dontcha just come back here and actually go and do a gal?
LOL!
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
12-23-10, 14:52
The following is a C+P of a report by havefuninchina on another forum. You know, that one with the numbers on it. That may be of interest:
Yi Hao KTV soft opening (14th Dec 2010)
As much as many of us here hate the fact that this hotel is pushing the price up, this is happening and they seem to have gotten the supply side of the equation right. Not to say that they are doing the right thing but an increment of the usual (2/5/8) to (2/6/9) and (3/6/9) to (3/8/12) is certainly attractive enough to attract girls flocking to this KTV. Now, it's up to the demand to make this equation work out. And I guess we will know it in time to come.
Had an afternoon tour of the hotel yesterday (all thanks to an old friend whom I've known for 10 over years that's working as a Director in KTV) and this is what I have to say:
Hotel main lobby.
As a new 5 star hotel, everything is bright, new and clean. However, the 'antique' set of sofa in the main lobby tells us that the owner of the hotel is probably a China man. Not something I would expect to see if they aim to attract an international crowd (and I'm not saying that the current wooden set of sofas in Eurasia front desk is any better). The front desk is relatively small as compared to other 5 stars hotels (Eurasia & Huihua) in Changping. Just wondering if they really do get very popular, do they have the space and the resources to process check ins and check outs fast?
Western Restaurant.
Upon entry from the main entrance, towards your right will be the western restaurant where you will have your complimentary buffet breakfast if you're a guest staying in the hotel. Buffet breakfast starts at 6. 30am (one of the earliest in CP) and ends at 10. 30am.
Buffet dinner is also available at the western restaurant at 108rmb subjected to 10% service charge.
Chinese Restaurant.
On the 2nd level is the Chinese Restaurant. Over here, they serve a choice of authentic Cantonese cuisines, spicy Hunan dishes, Teochew delicacies and seafood. For breakfast, they serve Dim Sum from 7am to 2pm. The Head Chef for this Chinese restaurant used to head Hai Xia's Restaurant and is well known for his Cantonese dishes.
Guest rooms.
With a total of 413 guest rooms when fully functional, this hotel should ease up the demand for guest rooms over the weekends in Changping. Promotional rates of the hotel rooms are as follow:
Business single (&21830; &21153; &22823; &24202; &25151, 318RMB.
Deluxe single (&35946; &21326; &21333; &20154; &25151, 338RMB.
Deluxe twin (&35946; &21326; &21452; &20154; &25151, 338RMB.
Business premium view (&21830; &21153; &26223; &35266; &25151, 358RMB. Big over shaped bathtub.
Deluxe suite (&35946; &21326; &22871; &25151, 508RMB. 1 bedroom 1 living room.
One thing to note, their bed is as comfortable as the one in Eurasia and Crown Prince Hotel. Do note that the rates I've posted prior to this post are the standard corporate rates. Above promotional rates will cease probably after CNY.
KTV.
Like what I've mentioned, the supply (quantity) of MMs in this KTV is definitely on par with Eurasia or Mayflower. In fact, I think they have more MMs than Eurasia. Yi Hao has got 2 levels of Flower Street on the 3rd level and 4th level. The size of each level of the flower street in Yi Hao is double the size of Eurasia's one. Hence, judging by proportion, Yi Hao should have 25% more girls than Eurasia (Eurasia got 3 levels and Yi Hao got 2). Found out from my old friend that they have more than 1000 MMs registered for work and more to come. MMs come from all over Dongguan: Dalang Royal Garden KTV, Qiaotou Welton Intl. Hotel, Changan DFML, CP Mayflower, Eurasia, Peninsula, Huihua, Manhattan, Hai Xia and Fuhao Hotel. Rates of MMs are at 2/6/9, 3/8/12 and 5/15/20.
How do you differentiate the various different categories of MMs? Here's a quick guide:
2/6/9. Pink & white colour uniform with a mini white jacket.
3/8/12. Gold colour gown with no collar.
5/15/20. Gold colour gown with standing collar.
KTV Room wise, as compared to Eurasia, Yi Hao's room are relatively smaller in size. Décor wise, it's simple yet elegant and somehow I still prefer Eurasia's theécor. As for sound system, they are using the same setup as Eurasia. However, I feel that the sound in Yi Hao KTV is better tuned. There's a good balance of Hi-mids-lows and the reverb and echo are well balanced out.
Alcohol pricing wise. 6 of us we spent about 2k including DJ for 4 dozens of beer and 6 bottles of wine. 7-up mixer for the red wine comes free. One big plate of fries and 3 big plates of chicken wings are thrown in free of charge as well. The above pricing is after the 40% promotional discount on the beer and red wine.
* Note: This FR was originally posted on another forum by myself. SEAJ
Hi there,
This will be my first time in CP with group of 5.
I will be staying at the virgin hotel.
Will anyone kindly tell me the best places to go for sauna and KTV?
Thanks
Big Swingin Dave
12-24-10, 16:57
Effective December 15th, the room rates at the Clipper Hotel have changed as follows:
Deluxe Single 298 (Sunday to Thursday) /328 (Friday / Saturday)
Deluxe Single with Steam or Computer 328/358.
Deluxe Single Garden Floor (7th) 328/358.
One Bedroom Suite 668/738.
Suite with Jacuzzi Tub 668/738.
These rates are effective through the holidays and a hint that it may stay for the long haul. These were the same rates during the Canton Fair period. I think that they will lower back the price as CNY nears and when the new hotel between the Swan Lake and the Penninsula opens on / about March 2011.
As CP becomes more and more commercialize each day and with crackdowns everywhere except here, this could be a signal that CP is getting more expensive in the near future.
BSD
Dan Hawaii
12-28-10, 10:50
She. Was. There. (kick the stool)
She "allowed" me to pick and I think I got lucky finding a great gal who was also on her period. So problem solved, right? Wrong! She got into a hissy fit around 10 pm just cause she got jealous and we had to leave. I rarely leave KTVs so early and you guys know I like to hang out even after the party. Anyhoo, on that note, she's becoming gf-like and gf's are a freakin drag at KTVs. (Kicks stool again)
The girl I picked was fun as heck. Not my type of gal cause she's too wild and very open, but I think MIT, Jett and others would love her. Great attitude and always in a good mood. Don't know about her tits cause she's got a sweater on and I'm sure her pussy smells great (for MIT and Freepeaks). Damn, maybe I SHOULD'VE done her. (kicks stool AGAIN and AGAIN) Geez Bruce, why do you even go to ktvs? It's like going to the restaurant hungry and looking at all the delicious food, but not being able to eat? Just keep kicking the stool, unless you kick something else out of the picture. .
BTW. I miss you man.
Asia Butterfly
12-28-10, 18:24
Hi there,
This will be my first time in CP with group of 5.
I will be staying at the virgin hotel.
Will anyone kindly tell me the best places to go for sauna and KTV?
ThanksDoes anyone in your group speak mandarin. All you need to do is go to a massage parlor and all the options are there. I don't speak mandarin but have been able to visit after the first visit with a Chinese speaking friend.
A. B.
Fast Eddie 48
12-29-10, 00:40
I was in CP last week for one night before going to Huizhou for business, check out some bbs around Hui mei quality sucks is getting worst all the time went to Hui Hua sauna look at 2 line up of 300 rmb girl all 5-6 in quality, so I ask for the 500 rmb girl pick a Sichuan girl with last rack 8 in quality but service is just ok 268 for the room nice room with steam room, they also have a 700 rmb tall average looking Korean girl also check out new century and hui mei sauna qualtiy is going down hill in CP fast, I got better sauna service in Zhu Hai and Huizhou for half the price.
Fast Eddie 48
Vincelee76
12-30-10, 09:18
Effective December 15th, the room rates at the Clipper Hotel have changed as follows:
Deluxe Single 298 (Sunday to Thursday) /328 (Friday / Saturday)
Deluxe Single with Steam or Computer 328/358.
Deluxe Single Garden Floor (7th) 328/358.
One Bedroom Suite 668/738.
Suite with Jacuzzi Tub 668/738.
These rates are effective through the holidays and a hint that it may stay for the long haul. These were the same rates during the Canton Fair period. I think that they will lower back the price as CNY nears and when the new hotel between the Swan Lake and the Penninsula opens on / about March 2011.
As CP becomes more and more commercialize each day and with crackdowns everywhere except here, this could be a signal that CP is getting more expensive in the near future.
BSDYo my brother,
Those prices for hotels in China are just toooo expensive. I usually stay at 100 RMB (13 dollars) hotel. And I get by with reasonably clean room.
Yes, it really is too the cops in China are cracking down on bring girls back to hotel. What I usually do is, I get to know the girl well, and ask her, I'll give you 100 RMB and we can use your place to shag. Her home might be broken down, but, if it has running water, and a bed, hell, it sure beats not getting any, or getting chased out by cops.
Good luck, and always remember to have fun.
Jettsetter
12-30-10, 10:18
Yo my brother,
Those prices for hotels in China are just toooo expensive. I usually stay at 100 RMB (13 dollars) hotel. And I get by with reasonably clean room.
Yes, it really is too the cops in China are cracking down on bring girls back to hotel. What I usually do is, I get to know the girl well, and ask her, I'll give you 100 RMB and we can use your place to shag. Her home might be broken down, but, if it has running water, and a bed, hell, it sure beats not getting any, or getting chased out by cops.
Good luck, and always remember to have fun. Are you on crack? Have you ever even been to CP? Since when are cops knocking on doors at hotels in CP? Good lord, if this started happening, the town would be a ghost town and the cops would literally have to knock on EVERY SINGLE DOOR in EVERY SINGLE HOTEL because almost every room has a girl going to it. How do you think these KTV's have a thousand girls each and still stay in business? It's not the cheap booze.
Don't worry boys, this person obviously hasn't been to CP or is super paranoid. It appears to be business as usual for now.
-J
Jim Traveller
12-31-10, 07:13
Went to Yi Hao on its 3rd day after openning. It sucks.
Hardware no problem, shiny new KTV. Software. Yikes. Looks like they tried to raise the tips to attract quality girls. Problem is that they managed to raise prices but failed to attract quality women.
2-5-8s are few. But hey should be hard sells at any other joint any ways.
3-8-12s are the main stay - but they are just not all that pretty. No better than the 2-5-8 or 3-6-9s eleswhere. For the quality minded and insensitive types (price insensitive) 3-8-12 won't stop you. The problem is quality isn't there.
Tons of 5-15-20 around. Problem is. They are no better then the 3-8-12s. Not ugly but plain at best. We were there from the very start and finished looking after 40 minutes - trusting that we are not missing any late arrivals. I found one pretty girl of the whole place 5-15-20. Hesitated for 4 minutes, she was gone.
Lots of mongers circling, no takers. Guys normally would take two to sit barely pick one. A few pretty DJs at 300 tip - I seriously considered getting a few DJs to party and forget about the regular "staff".
I hear business is bad after the grand openning as the word of lousy quallity got around. Girls showed up to try. No business, and then left. Returning to their familiar joints.
Yi Hao will find it hard to make it. Actually, since Eurasia.there has been half a dozen new KTVs in CP - all fell into the same trap. No pretty girls -and then no customers - raise tips - customers don't come - and then girls leave anyways. CP no longer lacks KTV rooms. A little price inflation is quite normal. But the overall pickings are getting slimmer.
Party while you can brothers. See the frontier, before it disappears. Well, it is already fading away.
Jim Traveller
12-31-10, 07:29
Hey guys: any one been to Prince KTV at Huangjiang lately. This used to be the premier place in the neighbourhood. Went downhill after the new ones openned. Haven't been their for a year- any recent info on price and quality?
Hi guys,
I finnaly register myself on this forum and can ad my report on visit in CP. It was my first time in CP but fourth time in China. But this was first time we get to right place. Its thanks to you guys and yours reports. And ofcourse big thanks to BS DAVE who help us to fully discover pleasure in CP.
Dave if you remember it was group of Polish guys in end of February this year. 7 guys + 1 girl (one of us take mistress.) we still don't now why.
We stay at Clipper Hotel the rates for room was (if my memory is in good shape) at level 268 RMB thanks to Dave.
In the first day Dave take us to KTV (forgive me but I don't remember the name of this KTV) inside KTV waiting for us lots of girls. We take to our room in KTV about 14 girls. And start party. One thing I remember is that we should choose one gir each before they start to dance and showing boobs beacuse after this you must pay to each girl 150 RMB if she showe only tits. Taking girl from KTV costs 400 RMB for night and only I take one to hotel but she was operative and satisfied almost all of us throught the night.
She love us beacuse we give her oportunitie to earn big ammount money and she want to stay with us but we wanty to explore more Chinese girls.
Second place wehre we go with Dave was SPA it was greate pleasure and we spend inside 3-4 hours on only massages.
But last day of our visit in CP we go to the Sauna. OMG it was fantastic feeling I never been so clean. Wow. Its hard to write somthing more you must try this if you are in China.
And we have pleasure to met SE Asia Joe in KTV and Jettsetera in sushi bar nad we came to sauna together. Thanks guys for your advice.
And see you in CP we plan to arrive to CP in end of March 2011.
Jacher
SE Asia Joe
01-01-11, 16:32
Hi guys,
I finnaly register myself on this forum and can ad my report on visit in CP. It was my first time in CP but fourth time in China. But this was first time we get to right place. Its thanks to you guys and yours reports. And ofcourse big thanks to BS DAVE who help us to fully discover pleasure in CP.
Dave if you remember it was group of Polish guys in end of February this year. 7 guys + 1 girl (one of us take mistress.) we still don't now why.
We stay at Clipper Hotel the rates for room was (if my memory is in good shape) at level 268 RMB thanks to Dave.
In the first day Dave take us to KTV (forgive me but I don't remember the name of this KTV) inside KTV waiting for us lots of girls. We take to our room in KTV about 14 girls. And start party. One thing I remember is that we should choose one gir each before they start to dance and showing boobs beacuse after this you must pay to each girl 150 RMB if she showe only tits. Taking girl from KTV costs 400 RMB for night and only I take one to hotel but she was operative and satisfied almost all of us throught the night.
She love us beacuse we give her oportunitie to earn big ammount money and she want to stay with us but we wanty to explore more Chinese girls.
Second place wehre we go with Dave was SPA it was greate pleasure and we spend inside 3-4 hours on only massages.
But last day of our visit in CP we go to the Sauna. OMG it was fantastic feeling I never been so clean. Wow. Its hard to write somthing more you must try this if you are in China.
And we have pleasure to met SE Asia Joe in KTV and Jettsetera in sushi bar nad we came to sauna together. Thanks guys for your advice.
And see you in CP we plan to arrive to CP in end of March 2011.
JacherYes. I remember you guys. And the girl you came with well!
On your KTV gal. You were the only one who took a gal back. But then she went ahead and serviced just about all of you guys. One by one. Didn't she?
And she gave Dave and I quite a comprehensive "report" on each of you guys the next day at breakfast!
Ridiculously hilarious! LOL!
How much did she 'earn' that night?
SEAJ
Hi guys,
I finnaly register myself on this forum and can ad my report on visit in CP. It was my first time in CP but fourth time in China. But this was first time we get to right place. Its thanks to you guys and yours reports. And ofcourse big thanks to BS DAVE who help us to fully discover pleasure in CP.
Dave if you remember it was group of Polish guys in end of February this year. 7 guys + 1 girl (one of us take mistress.) we still don't now why.
We stay at Clipper Hotel the rates for room was (if my memory is in good shape) at level 268 RMB thanks to Dave.
In the first day Dave take us to KTV (forgive me but I don't remember the name of this KTV) inside KTV waiting for us lots of girls. We take to our room in KTV about 14 girls. And start party. One thing I remember is that we should choose one gir each before they start to dance and showing boobs beacuse after this you must pay to each girl 150 RMB if she showe only tits. Taking girl from KTV costs 400 RMB for night and only I take one to hotel but she was operative and satisfied almost all of us throught the night.
She love us beacuse we give her oportunitie to earn big ammount money and she want to stay with us but we wanty to explore more Chinese girls.
Second place wehre we go with Dave was SPA it was greate pleasure and we spend inside 3-4 hours on only massages.
But last day of our visit in CP we go to the Sauna. OMG it was fantastic feeling I never been so clean. Wow. Its hard to write somthing more you must try this if you are in China.
And we have pleasure to met SE Asia Joe in KTV and Jettsetera in sushi bar nad we came to sauna together. Thanks guys for your advice.
And see you in CP we plan to arrive to CP in end of March 2011.
JacherI was there I think for a part of your visit and you guys seemed like you had a great time! It will only be better next visit!
Hi everyone!
I've been to CP 5 times since 2006. Having been there the last year. Will be returning soon. Been reading this forum for the last couple of years. After reading Vincelee76 report just had to post a message. Your a moron!
Those prices for hotels in China are just toooo expensive. I usually stay at 100 RMB (13 dollars) hotel. And I get by with reasonably clean room.
Yes, it really is too the cops in China are cracking down on bring girls back to hotel. What I usually do is, I get to know the girl well, and ask her, I'll give you 100 RMB and we can use your place to shag. Her home might be broken down, but, if it has running water, and a bed, hell, it sure beats not getting any, or getting chased out by cops.
Good luck, and always remember to have fun.[/QUOTE]
How is the Royal Garden Hotel nowadays?
Yes. I remember you guys. And the girl you came with well!
On your KTV gal. You were the only one who took a gal back. But then she went ahead and serviced just about all of you guys. One by one. Didn't she?
And she gave Dave and I quite a comprehensive "report" on each of you guys the next day at breakfast!
Ridiculously hilarious! LOL!
How much did she 'earn' that night?
SEAJI think she gained more than 1200 RMB but she was prety busy during the night and early morning.
Yes I know about the her raport LOL
In next week we will know exact data when we came to CP. If somebody want to join our crew is welcome. But you must knowe we are pretty hevy drinkers and we still after that want to play with girls LOL
Hi everyone!
Your a moron!
[/QUOTE]This was just too funny NOT to quote.
Able Baker
01-03-11, 03:46
Getting there: I took the train from Shenzhen, Luohu Station, because I had to do some Business in Shenzhen first. Had flown into Shenzhen from the US via Korea.
Spent a couple nights in Shenzhen at the Luohu Shangri-La. For what it's worth, I've attached a snapshot of the famous 'Pink Apartments' taken from my window there. You will find lots of touts and Mamas offering to deliver girls to nearby hotels for about 300 RMB, short time. I hired one to come up to my room at Shangri-La for a quickie and had no problems, but it was not an experience to write home about.
Took the train to Dongguan. It's only two stops and takes about 30 minutes; costs 45 RMB. They go every half hour or so. On arriving at Dongguan Station you will encounter the usual train station taxi mess. They won't use the meter and want to charge you about twice the appropriate fair. Better to walk a block or so and catch a taxi on the street.
I stayed at Ou Ya Hotel; excellent place, modern and opened just last year. Recommended if you are not a budget traveler or would like a bit of a splurge. Room was 550 RMB per night; but was spacious, well decorated, and worth every Yuan. I was traveling alone and didn't want to do the KTV thing this time.
So I visited the hotel's sauna on the sixth floor. Wasn't sure what to expect, and it turns out that this is not the kind of place for a leisurely soak in the hot tubs and so on like Queen Spa. In Shenzhen. It's a luxurious brothel with no pretences to being anything else.
I went about 5 pm and was afraid it might be too early. It definitely was not. When you walk in, someone takes you around the corner to an informal lineup of 50 or 60 girls. I chose one that cost 600 RMB. Didn't bargain or really try to get a handle on the overall pricing structure.
Girl led me to the room, did a little sexy strip dance, gave me a pleasant shower and fucked my brains out, with all the usual preambles and frills. Spent about two hours with her. Could have come twice if I had been several years younger. They had a 'yellow' DVD playing part of the time on a big plasma TV though I was too busy to busy to pay much attention to it.
Paid the girl the agreed-upon 600 plus a 50 Yuan tip, and as I left had to pay an additional 238 for the room. Made it pretty steep all together, at 888 RMB. But I felt like it was worth it, and would do it again. Knowing the lay of the land a little now, I might bargain up front and get a better price, especially for the room.
The hotel also has a legitimate massage place in the basement where you can get a foot massage or a body massage without erotic overtones, for recuperative purposes. The hotel served an excellent buffet breakfast every day, included in the price of the room, and the assistant manager was helpful in arranging onward air reservations.
Several small restaurants are across the street for ordinary quick meals, though this really is not an interesting tourist area. Go to Changping for the large selection of pretty girls and do your sightseeing somewhere else.
Ira Johnson
01-03-11, 04:59
I will let this link speak for itself.
http://www.chinasmack.com/2011/videos/dongguang-high-school-girls-risque-dance-performance.html
ESL teacher influx expected to hit a record high.
Jon Guoren
01-03-11, 10:21
I am going to be on Hong Kong from Feb1st to end of March. Arriving near to New Year, what is the advice? I've read the thread and it sounds like there are a lot of crackdowns around New Year time which sounds like a bummer as I won't be working until 14/2/10 so I have a couple of weeks to play.
Can anyone recommend a cheapo place to stay in Shenzhen over the CNY even in Hong Kong? I guess if I want my limited budget to last on this trip I'm going to be looking at seedier rub + tugs for around the 100-168 mark. Am I going to be disappointed?
The Dongguan KTV's sound amazing. However, I am quite shocked at the prices of the market in China I thought it would be considerably cheaper. I am a tight ass stickler for a bargain. I've never had FS in China as wherever I've been has always been rub-tug for 100-150 RMB.
I speak the lingo (mandarin) which is a plus. Any tips appreciated.
Jon Guoren
Getting there: I took the train from Shenzhen, Luohu Station, because I had to do some Business in Shenzhen first. Had flown into Shenzhen from the US via Korea.
Spent a couple nights in Shenzhen at the Luohu Shangri-La. For what it's worth, I've attached a snapshot of the famous 'Pink Apartments' taken from my window there. You will find lots of touts and Mamas offering to deliver girls to nearby hotels for about 300 RMB, short time. I hired one to come up to my room at Shangri-La for a quickie and had no problems, but it was not an experience to write home about.
Took the train to Dongguan. It's only two stops and takes about 30 minutes; costs 45 RMB. They go every half hour or so. On arriving at Dongguan Station you will encounter the usual train station taxi mess. They won't use the meter and want to charge you about twice the appropriate fair. Better to walk a block or so and catch a taxi on the street.
I stayed at Ou Ya Hotel; excellent place, modern and opened just last year. Recommended if you are not a budget traveler or would like a bit of a splurge. Room was 550 RMB per night; but was spacious, well decorated, and worth every Yuan. I was traveling alone and didn't want to do the KTV thing this time.
So I visited the hotel's sauna on the sixth floor. Wasn't sure what to expect, and it turns out that this is not the kind of place for a leisurely soak in the hot tubs and so on like Queen Spa. In Shenzhen. It's a luxurious brothel with no pretences to being anything else.
I went about 5 pm and was afraid it might be too early. It definitely was not. When you walk in, someone takes you around the corner to an informal lineup of 50 or 60 girls. I chose one that cost 600 RMB. Didn't bargain or really try to get a handle on the overall pricing structure.
Girl led me to the room, did a little sexy strip dance, gave me a pleasant shower and fucked my brains out, with all the usual preambles and frills. Spent about two hours with her. Could have come twice if I had been several years younger. They had a 'yellow' DVD playing part of the time on a big plasma TV though I was too busy to busy to pay much attention to it.
Paid the girl the agreed-upon 600 plus a 50 Yuan tip, and as I left had to pay an additional 238 for the room. Made it pretty steep all together, at 888 RMB. But I felt like it was worth it, and would do it again. Knowing the lay of the land a little now, I might bargain up front and get a better price, especially for the room.
The hotel also has a legitimate massage place in the basement where you can get a foot massage or a body massage without erotic overtones, for recuperative purposes. The hotel served an excellent buffet breakfast every day, included in the price of the room, and the assistant manager was helpful in arranging onward air reservations.
Several small restaurants are across the street for ordinary quick meals, though this really is not an interesting tourist area. Go to Changping for the large selection of pretty girls and do your sightseeing somewhere else. I think you littlebit overpaid for sauna but I can understand why you don't want to bargin he he he. After 2 hours all body cleaning in sauna 200 RMB more is not too expensive.
If I remember we paid (with discounts thanks too BS DAVE) 600 RMB for 2 hours including roome rate.
Fast Eddie 48
01-04-11, 19:42
I think you littlebit overpaid for sauna but I can understand why you don't want to bargin he he he. After 2 hours all body cleaning in sauna 200 RMB more is not too expensive.
If I remember we paid (with discounts thanks too BS DAVE) 600 RMB for 2 hours including roome rate.To Jacher
If Able are staying at the same hotel they will offer you a 100 rmb discount for the room but I never heard of that hotel must be a new one.
Fast Eddie 48
Hi Fellow fun seekers
I'm wondering will there be any groups visiting CP during Feb?
Cause I'm going to be in China during feb and will be travelling to CP.
And as I like to have some fun and drinks this time I will be alone so looking for same minded people to party.
Hi Fellow fun seekers
I'm wondering will there be any groups visiting CP during Feb?
Are you thinking of going near Chinese New Year? The fun would not be as much as most girls are on go-home mode. But who knows, right? Check the classified section for people to get in touch with while in CP.
Are you thinking of going near Chinese New Year? The fun would not be as much as most girls are on go-home mode. But who knows, right? Check the classified section for people to get in touch with while in CP.thanks alot.
I've been in those conditions before were it was CNY and the selection wasn't much but there could be some rare gems staying behind in CP because of overspending or just doesn't got the money to travel home.
SE Asia Joe
01-11-11, 07:36
thanks alot.
I've been in those conditions before were it was CNY and the selection wasn't much but there could be some rare gems staying behind in CP because of overspending or just doesn't got the money to travel home. Or. You could hope for another Big Freeze like a couple years ago!
Lots of miserable gals for me to console then!
SEAJ
SeaJoe,
As I recall that was the CNY of 2008 correct? I think I was there for CNY and boy was it cold! Lots of girls got stuck in CP and you are right. Lots of girls was left behind. While most HK guys, excluding SEAJoe of course, are back home spending quality time with family, CP was pretty much empty, except lots of lonely girls who was stuck in CP waiting to get back home but having trouble getting back home they gave up. As a result, lots of girls and the girls you got actually gave you a lot of attention. Some girls actually was just happy to have a guy spend new years with them. Sounds corny, but I found it kinda romantic. It didn't feel like a business transaction with some of the girls, more like close friends or GFE.
But overall, most of the time CNY isn't that great. Lots of crackdowns. Saunas so scared they have cover ups and there's just so much tension and nervousness in the air amongst operators.
AsnDragon.
Or. You could hope for another Big Freeze like a couple years ago!
Lots of miserable gals for me to console then!
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
01-11-11, 11:06
SeaJoe,
As I recall that was the CNY of 2008 correct? I think I was there for CNY and boy was it cold! . But overall, most of the time CNY isn't that great. Lots of crackdowns. Saunas so scared they have cover ups and there's just so much tension and nervousness in the air amongst operators.
AsnDragon. Hmmmm. 2008 or 2009?
Man, only 27 and I'm already losing my memory!
And let me tell you. It's REALLY cold in CP right now already!
Definitely single digit Centigrade for most of the day and real strong wind!
It's really the pits when one has to make all sorts of pre-preparations just to make sure one don't freeze his balls off doing the nasty; and forget about playing around in the pre and post showers. No way!
And for those coming from countries where central heating is as common as gals are in CP. Well, there's NO central heating in CP- not even at most of the 5 star hotels! (not sure about the new ones like EuroAsia, Yihao etc).
The hotels do NOT have enough space heaters for all the rooms. I was lucky during the big freeze as I've always been friendly with the reception girls at the Miraton where I was staying at. And they managed to get one for me. Otherwise, it would be totally unbearable.
And BTW. When it gets cold here. Expect some (most?) of the gals to be wearing Long Johns under their clothing.
Not the sexiest underwear for girls!
SEAJ
I don't know of it's just my luck or what this happened to me last year too, got my vacation right around CNY went to China spend it mostly in Shenzhen. Went to CP with a Chinese living friend of mine try some of the newer KTV's.
Met another ISG friend who answered my report and we met up went to a KTV's and he was picky about the girls so when we got a room and sat down and started to drink some, he just left us with the room bill and went to a spa. And text-ed me this! MAN that was rude.
Unlucky for me was that the day I was planned to leave for my return flight 5-6 of my friends living in China / HK took the train and went to CP for a big CNY party, MAN I was so close on changing my departure.
Don't mind the girls as long you're having a good time, the girls would be fine too. I have tried going alone. Man do you know how boring it can be when the ratio is 4:1 in Pussy vs Dick calculations? Everyone just sits there and trying to get ME drunk! Total buzzkill.
Or. You could hope for another Big Freeze like a couple years ago!
Lots of miserable gals for me to console then!
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
01-12-11, 08:26
I.
Met another ISG friend who answered my report and we met up went to a KTV's and he was picky about the girls so when we got a room and sat down and started to drink some, he just left us with the room bill and went to a spa. And text-ed me this! MAN that was rude.
That's not rude. Its totally unacceptable.
If he wanted to leave early, he not only must pay for whatever he's consumed, he's to pay for his share of the TOTAL minimum room charge split by the number of persons.
The minimum room charge is what each person has basically committed to when agreeing to join a KTV party.
Can you please PM me this idiot's ISG handle and real name (if you have it). For I want to make sure I avoid him.
Thanks.
SEAJ
Yeah I sure would love to do that but, after that incident I've never seen him post anything on ISG again and I have forgotten his name the only thing I can remember is that he's from Canada speaks a little bit of Chinese and is around 40 years old.
IT's really ashame to meet this kind of misfortune but it hasn't scared me of from partying with friends from ISG, just that sometimes the timing sucks and hitting CNY of all the times hehehe.
Can you please PM me this idiot's ISG handle and real name (if you have it). For I want to make sure I avoid him.
Thanks.
SEAJ
Yeah I sure would love to do that but, after that incident I've never seen him post anything on ISG again and I have forgotten his name the only thing I can remember is that he's from Canada speaks a little bit of Chinese and is around 40 years old.
He can't be that hard to trace. How did you two contract each other and how did you all met up? You don't have PM because you are only a regular member.
I am assuming he posted after you joined when he "answered your report". I also think it was on the Dongguan thread because it happened in CP.
. I have forgotten his name the only thing I can remember is that he's from Canada speaks a little bit of Chinese and is around 40 years old.
IT's really ashame to meet this kind of misfortune but it hasn't scared me of from partying with friends from ISG, just that sometimes the timing sucks and hitting CNY of all the times hehehe. Sounds like it's Bruce tea. Heard that if there aren't any Bruce tea girls, he'd leave and the KTV room would suck soon after.
Hit or miss. That's the way it is for life. I'm glad one negative experience hasn't turned you off for good. Got to keep at it.
After all, I AM 'Rain out'
Sounds like it's Bruce tea. Heard that if there aren't any Bruce tea girls, he'd leave and the KTV room would suck soon after.
Hit or miss. That's the way it is for life. I'm glad one negative experience hasn't turned you off for good. Got to keep at it.
After all, I AM 'Rain out'Hehehe You know you're talking about yourself right?
Sounds like it's Bruce Warning: Bruce the Terror is back. He is directly decended from the Mongolian cowboys. Hide your wives, concubines and daughters!
SEAJOE,
You're only 27 and you already have such bad memory? What are you going to do when you get to my age of 59? I think you should slow down. All that sex and romancing with all of your girls is really taking a toll on your health, even if you are a tall blonde Swede with the body of Adonis.
Showers are horrible with no heat in the room. Not to mention that with China's all concrete building, there's not much insulation as well. So I thought. Perhaps I should get a heated blanket next time. So it would make the girl more inclined to spend more time in the bed with me. I know. I know. Old guys like me need to think of such tricks so we can have a little bit of edge in keeping out girls. I need to come up with more of these tactics or they all just flock to young good looking guys like you!
Share some of your girls Joe! Don't leave us old-timers out here to dry while you have all the fun!
AsnDragon.
Hmmmm. 2008 or 2009?
Man, only 27 and I'm already losing my memory!
And let me tell you. It's REALLY cold in CP right now already!
Definitely single digit Centigrade for most of the day and real strong wind!
It's really the pits when one has to make all sorts of pre-preparations just to make sure one don't freeze his balls off doing the nasty; and forget about playing around in the pre and post showers. No way!
And for those coming from countries where central heating is as common as gals are in CP. Well, there's NO central heating in CP- not even at most of the 5 star hotels! (not sure about the new ones like EuroAsia, Yihao etc).
The hotels do NOT have enough space heaters for all the rooms. I was lucky during the big freeze as I've always been friendly with the reception girls at the Miraton where I was staying at. And they managed to get one for me. Otherwise, it would be totally unbearable.
And BTW. When it gets cold here. Expect some (most?) of the gals to be wearing Long Johns under their clothing.
Not the sexiest underwear for girls!
SEAJ
They are selling electric heaters in the old supermarket on Swan Lake Road for only 80 to 100 rmb. I have a fat girl in my room, that also works.
Hmmmm. 2008 or 2009?
Man, only 27 and I'm already losing my memory!
And let me tell you. It's REALLY cold in CP right now already!
Definitely single digit Centigrade for most of the day and real strong wind!
It's really the pits when one has to make all sorts of pre-preparations just to make sure one don't freeze his balls off doing the nasty; and forget about playing around in the pre and post showers. No way!
And for those coming from countries where central heating is as common as gals are in CP. Well, there's NO central heating in CP- not even at most of the 5 star hotels! (not sure about the new ones like EuroAsia, Yihao etc).
The hotels do NOT have enough space heaters for all the rooms. I was lucky during the big freeze as I've always been friendly with the reception girls at the Miraton where I was staying at. And they managed to get one for me. Otherwise, it would be totally unbearable.
And BTW. When it gets cold here. Expect some (most?) of the gals to be wearing Long Johns under their clothing.
Not the sexiest underwear for girls!
SEAJ
Warning: Bruce the Terror is back. He is directly decended from the Mongolian cowboys. Hide your wives, concubines and daughters!Descended not decended. Sorry for typo.
The Great Wall couldn't keep Bruce the Terror out.
Bob Sacamano
01-15-11, 19:46
I'm just wondering,;) what do the WGs think of wearing lingerie that I provide for them for a session? Of course they can keep them afterwards. I think that some of us sometimes get tired of the ol' vanilla in 'and' out sessions after a while, and occasionally need something to spice them up a little. . Chinese are meticulous about their personal hygiene, so I wonder if they'd object to wearing new lingerie given to them. To those of you who provide "pocket rockets" and other such toys for the WGs, do they object to using them? I'm sure that they first swab them down thoroughly with their alcohol towelettes, right?
They are selling electric heaters in the old supermarket on Swan Lake Road for only 80 to 100 rmb. I have a fat girl in my room, that also works.I think a good one would be around 300-400RMB. You need a bigger and better one to warm up the room fast once you enter the room. It would be nice if you can leave it ON all the time. However, most hotels you need card keys to turn ON the power to the room. It is off once you leave the room with the key. Sometimes like a business card or credit card will do the trick to leave it ON but some requires a card with a chip.
I know jolly old Santas loves fat girls. Just a stupid joke.
Warning: Bruce the Terror is back.Waltzed into CP and first stop, Mayflower. Came in late, so was expecting being Rained Out, but BSD had a friend of a friend of a friend visiting the room and I said,"Baby, you stay and don't go nowhere." She was already buzzed and was totally fun: dancing, drinking, grinding on my lap, and just had her arms wrapped all around me. Went to eat some snack and a table full of buzzed guys and girls is funny as hell. Santa joined our midnight snack was jealous as he saw we were just talking jibberish.
Gal I took was GFE before bed, PSE during, and back to GFE after. Whatta gal.
Next night onto Peninsula. Soooo many beautiful and just knockout gals strolling in groups. Santa joined (after he saw how a party with a-Bruce is a-rockin) and took the first hottie of the night. Other guys followed and I was not going to be Rained Out. Guys know what I liked and helped me pick a smiling BruceTea gal. Ok, time to work the BruceTea patented seduction technique. Played games with FreePeaks, Santa, and gals. My gal was dumb as fuk but hell, she drank like a pro and did not complained or weasled out of drinking at all. And yeah, we had Santa drinking so he was also giddy as an idiot at the end of the night. He kept doing the chicken dance after his gal says "Wu" (five in chinese). Don't know what's his fascination with chickens is...
Party winded down and we all left pretty early. My gal was a compliant and fun gal in the room. Kept talking about her bf, but as a good sport, she gave me total access to her body. Don't know how a guy can let a hottie gf do that stuff, but hey, I rocked her world and tremors like that cannot be faked.
Rain Out
SE Asia Joe
01-16-11, 04:16
I think a good one would be around 300-400RMB. You need a bigger and better one to warm up the room fast once you enter the room. It would be nice if you can leave it ON all the time. However, most hotels you need card keys to turn ON the power to the room. It is off once you leave the room with the key. Sometimes like a business card or credit card will do the trick to leave it ON but some requires a card with a chip.
I know jolly old Santas loves fat girls. Just a stupid joke. Tip from Mr. Green SEAJ. Leave your shower on at HOT. And you'll get your room nice and warm fast.
And locate your RMB 80 space heater preciesly 3' 2" away from the bed. Further away not effective, closer and it'll singe her nookie hair.
SEAJ
Tip from Mr. Green SEAJ. Leave your shower on at HOT. And you'll get your room nice and warm fast.Is that a joke? Do you also leave open your freezer's door to cool the room? Dude, who pays for your electricity / water bill?
Methinks "mr. Green" means mr. Fullofgreenbills.
God, a cold CP is going to suck. I may need some teabagging to keep my balls warm.
Bob Sacamano
01-16-11, 05:27
I think a good one would be around 300-400RMB. You need a bigger and better one to warm up the room fast once you enter the room. It would be nice if you can leave it ON all the time. However, most hotels you need card keys to turn ON the power to the room. It is off once you leave the room with the key. Sometimes like a business card or credit card will do the trick to leave it ON but some requires a card with a chip.
I know jolly old Santas loves fat girls. Just a stupid joke. The chubby and fat girls can be really good. I think that they don't get chosen as often as the plain-janes and factory-girl-types (who some of us like) and model-types, so they can be quite "active."
I had great success my week in CP with my gals and lingerie.
First off I was always careful choosing, asking KTV gals upfront if they would go three times onna long date, if they liked to kiss, and if they would, as my iPhone translator put it "put my little brother in her mouth a lot and kiss it a lot". I said no to gal if they were no good with last two questions. If they objected to first question, I tended to let it go, since three pops on a long date. Well I ran low on gas after first couple nights. Needless to say. What I am saying is that my sample size was a pretty open group of gals.
Lingerie. I would hang a robe on hook while she showered, with the "outfit" in front. Every time, post shower, my galcwould come out wrapped up like a present. Memories. Whew. Most didn't ask for it. Some girls were repeats so I would repeat the outfit on them or mix it up a bit.
As for toys. My previous trios I had been sure to have an electric toothbrush. Cover with a condom and start on the nipples and work the way down.
This time, a few dildos and vibes. Always on the smallish side. Even some Velcro "love cuffs" that were completely easy to get out of. Showed the, chow and they'd use on me first.
Lots of fun. Most girls are curious. If your intentions are playful and tjey know it. Then you will definitely be able to get way beyond "vanilla".
All that said. My most memorable might was my truly vanilla total GFE night. Sadly the last night. And one that I can't get out of my head until Ivey back there?
Be sure to report!
D23.
I'm just wondering,;) what do the WGs think of wearing lingerie that I provide for them for a session? Of course they can keep them afterwards. I think that some of us sometimes get tired of the ol' vanilla in 'and' out sessions after a while, and occasionally need something to spice them up a little. . Chinese are meticulous about their personal hygiene, so I wonder if they'd object to wearing new lingerie given to them. To those of you who provide "pocket rockets" and other such toys for the WGs, do they object to using them? I'm sure that they first swab them down thoroughly with their alcohol towelettes, right?
Using iPad. It is brutal cannot scroll down and edit text.
Anyways I forgot they key part about vibes and toys. Be sure sure to cover with condom.
Also be sure to leave the tags on.
Let them man controls. You will indeed be surprised to see the sweetest young thing working that thing with abandon. The most innocent gal of my week was the one who just went crazy working herself for me.
I got to get my ass back there before my annual October trip.
Got to get there!
D23.
I'm just wondering,;) what do the WGs think of wearing lingerie that I provide for them for a session? Of course they can keep them afterwards. I think that some of us sometimes get tired of the ol' vanilla in 'and' out sessions after a while, and occasionally need something to spice them up a little. . Chinese are meticulous about their personal hygiene, so I wonder if they'd object to wearing new lingerie given to them. To those of you who provide "pocket rockets" and other such toys for the WGs, do they object to using them? I'm sure that they first swab them down thoroughly with their alcohol towelettes, right?
Brucetea- man, Glad to hear that you are partying it up over there! Brucetea really sometimes is the heart of the party! But then again, a Brucetea girl usually, but not always, means a pretty wild party girl to begin with. So how can you not have fun right?
Santa-Glad that you are checking out the KTVs these days. Really happy to hear that you are participating in the KTV fun. Switching it up with a little BBS and a little KTV is always good. Too much of one thing does make things a bit bland. Afterall. Variety is the spice of life right?
AsnDragon.
Waltzed into CP and first stop, Mayflower. Came in late, so was expecting being Rained Out, but BSD had a friend of a friend of a friend visiting the room and I said,"Baby, you stay and don't go nowhere." She was already buzzed and was totally fun: dancing, drinking, grinding on my lap, and just had her arms wrapped all around me. Went to eat some snack and a table full of buzzed guys and girls is funny as hell. Santa joined our midnight snack was jealous as he saw we were just talking jibberish.
Gal I took was GFE before bed, PSE during, and back to GFE after. Whatta gal.
Next night onto Peninsula. Soooo many beautiful and just knockout gals strolling in groups. Santa joined (after he saw how a party with a-Bruce is a-rockin) and took the first hottie of the night. Other guys followed and I was not going to be Rained Out. Guys know what I liked and helped me pick a smiling BruceTea gal. Ok, time to work the BruceTea patented seduction technique. Played games with FreePeaks, Santa, and gals. My gal was dumb as fuk but hell, she drank like a pro and did not complained or weasled out of drinking at all. And yeah, we had Santa drinking so he was also giddy as an idiot at the end of the night. He kept doing the chicken dance after his gal says "Wu" (five in Chinese). Don't know what's his fascination with chickens is.
Party winded down and we all left pretty early. My gal was a compliant and fun gal in the room. Kept talking about her bf, but as a good sport, she gave me total access to her body. Don't know how a guy can let a hottie gf do that stuff, but hey, I rocked her world and tremors like that cannot be faked.
Rain Out
Bob,
So my question is, what do you consider to be fat? In terms of girls with more meat, I sort of classify them in three categories:
1. Big boned- these girls are not necessarily fat, but they have bigger bones. Not petite like what you usually see most of the time. This big boned aspects also applies to their face as well. The generally. Sorry to sound a bit racists, but more of a regular big boned Korean Look.
2. Chubby. This usually entails a girl who's got some baby fat left over. Chubby cute cheeks, and overall just a cute chubby type. Overall they have more meat. Stomach includes 1-2 rolls of fat, and usually bigger breasted than normal. I would say their dress size is about a 4.
3. Fat girls- they girls are just bigger than even the chubby girls. She's got jiggly arms, and the rolls on her stomach fat is about 4-5 layers. She's usually got huge breasts, which is a trade off that's worth it for people who like really big breasted girls. Their dress size is about a 6 or bigger. Dongbei girls, Shandong girls and some Sichuan girls are usually what comes to mind.
Although I do not usually choose portly girls, I do sometimes choose them if they are cute.
I never noticed anything different about performance actually. In fact sometimes when they are fatter, they are a bit more lazy in my experience. But during those cold winter evenings, they are quite nice to hold onto for warmth. Then again. Any girl is nice to hold onto at night. Right? Except for the ones that snore like a pig!
AsnDragon.
The chubby and fat girls can be really good. I think that they don't get chosen as often as the plain-janes and factory-girl-types (who some of us like) and model-types, so they can be quite "active."
The chubby and fat girls can be really good. I think that they don't get chosen as often as the plain-janes and factory-girl-types (who some of us like) and model-types, so they can be quite "active."For chubby fat girls, my friend who has a regular mommie. He asked her to bring a big chested girl. About 30 minutes later, a girl was at his front door. He opened it and he wasn't sure if she was the girl that was suppose to come over. The girl had a cute face, a little big, had a big chest but was fat. She quickly closed the door. Before he could say anything, she rushed at him and started kissing and taking his cloths and her cloths off. She was all over him and it looked like she never had sex in a million years. He didn't get around telling the rest of the story.
SE Asia Joe
01-16-11, 09:49
Brucetea- man, Glad to hear that you are partying it up over there! Brucetea really sometimes is the heart of the party! But then again, a Brucetea girl usually, but not always, means a pretty wild party girl to begin with. So how can you not have fun right?
Santa-Glad that you are checking out the KTVs these days. Really happy to hear that you are participating in the KTV fun. Switching it up with a little BBS and a little KTV is always good. Too much of one thing does make things a bit bland. Afterall, variety is the spice of life right?
AsnDragon. Wrong Wrong Wrong! Bruce tea is the consumate gentleman. He does NOT like wild gals, he likes them young, small, demure and he loves to romance them. A little cuddle in the corner, a quick peck on the cheeks furtively given, holding their hand bag whilst they go to the toilet. You know, what a typical Shangai gal, or a fresh off the farm one, appreciate and ALWAYS drop trou on!
As for Santa, Mean old bugger's made his reputation with all the BBS's and they all run away from him nowadays. Thus he now needs to reap harvest at KTV's!
LOL.
SEAJ
Ps. I just noticed - seems like all commas written on here after the switchover to the new forum engine gets changed to a full stop automaticaly! Makes reports all disjointed. Wonder when Jackson will fix this glitch
Bob Sacamano
01-16-11, 11:27
Bob,
So my question is, what do you consider to be fat? In terms of girls with more meat, I sort of classify them in three categories:
1. Big boned- these girls are not necessarily fat, but they have bigger bones. Not petite like what you usually see most of the time. This big boned aspects also applies to their face as well. The generally. Sorry to sound a bit racists, but more of a regular big boned Korean Look.
2. Chubby. This usually entails a girl who's got some baby fat left over. Chubby cute cheeks, and overall just a cute chubby type. Overall they have more meat. Stomach includes 1-2 rolls of fat, and usually bigger breasted than normal. I would say their dress size is about a 4.
3. Fat girls- they girls are just bigger than even the chubby girls. She's got jiggly arms, and the rolls on her stomach fat is about 4-5 layers. She's usually got huge breasts, which is a trade off that's worth it for people who like really big breasted girls. Their dress size is about a 6 or bigger. Dongbei girls, Shandong girls and some Sichuan girls are usually what comes to mind.
Although I do not usually choose portly girls, I do sometimes choose them if they are cute.
I never noticed anything different about performance actually. In fact sometimes when they are fatter, they are a bit more lazy in my experience. But during those cold winter evenings, they are quite nice to hold onto for warmth. Then again. Any girl is nice to hold onto at night. Right? Except for the ones that snore like a pig!
AsnDragon. It's fun to read about the "preferences" that some guys here have, and that some of us know each other pretty well. .
Douglas23, thanks for sharing your info and stories about lingerie. I think I have to go shopping now.
AD, I'm talking about your description #2, with only one roll of fat, not the cellulite types. I'm with you, while I don't choose the portly ones regularly, I'll choose one if she's cute. And you're right, they do tend to have bigger tits.
SEAJ, I haven't noticed the comma problem after the redesign, but I've noticed that Chinese characters convert to series of numbers, and emoticons usually don't work.
I'll be in CP mid-week and hope to see some of you guys there.
Weelock, maybe this is what happened to your friend:
Bob.
One last bit about lingerie.
At Lohu Shopping centre. I think on third or fourth floor near one of the sets of stairs there is a great little shop that sells everything from sexy stewardess outfits to schoolgirl, and policewoman.
All are around 90 to 100 rmb if I remember correctly.
Some of the more form fitting outfits I'd be careful of as they seem to be made for much bigger girls.
Though the recent discussions about larger girls. Well it may not be a problem.
D23.
It's fun to read about the "preferences" that some guys here have, and that some of us know each other pretty well. .
Douglas23, thanks for sharing your info and stories about lingerie. I think I have to go shopping now.
AD, I'm talking about your description #2, with only one roll of fat, not the cellulite types. I'm with you, while I don't choose the portly ones regularly, I'll choose one if she's cute. And you're right, they do tend to have bigger tits.
SEAJ, I haven't noticed the comma problem after the redesign, but I've noticed that Chinese characters convert to series of numbers, and emoticons usually don't work.
I'll be in CP mid-week and hope to see some of you guys there.
Weelock, maybe this is what happened to your friend:
Gal I took was GFE before bed, PSE during, and back to GFE after. Whatta gal.
My gal was a compliant and fun gal in the room. Kept talking about her bf, but as a good sport, she gave me total access to her body. Don't know how a guy can let a hottie gf do that stuff, but hey, I rocked her world and tremors like that cannot be faked.
Rain OutWhich "hottie" was that?
Oh, now I remember, the webfooted one that fell off Farmer Wang's truck. Kept picking snot from her nose all evening. Was she better than those Mongolian sheep you been shagging? LOL
You need a bigger and better one to warm up the room fast once you enter the room.
I know jolly old Santas loves fat girls. That's right Weelok, when the weather is cold get a well fed gal with big hooters. You don't need a skinny wench on a cold night.
I've got to teach these guys or they'll never get it right!
Hey all, this is my first post ever and my first trip to China ever! But I managed to find this site.
Been reading up, first of all you guys can call me Ref if you'd like. I'm a young man on buisness in DG. Just saying Hi and hoping you guys can help me out since ill probably be making this trip a few times a year. Anyone know of some good talent in DG?
PS: I'm also a KTV virgin.
SE Asia Joe
01-17-11, 04:36
Is that a joke? Do you also leave open your freezer's door to cool the room? Dude, who pays for your electricity / water bill?
Methinks "mr. Green" means mr. Fullofgreenbills.
God, a cold CP is going to suck. I may need some teabagging to keep my balls warm. Of course only do this when at a hotel!
And BTW. Just FYI. Bought an 800 watt 2 filament space heater heater at the hardware store at that weird intersection just before U-turn into DongXing Lu / San Kwong hotel for RMB 50. This is some Chinese brand I've never heard of but there were also some Mideas. 1,200 watt ones at RMB 100.
SEAJ
Hey Ref again. If I'm staying at a Hotel, how safe is it to call one of those "massage" girls to come by? How heavy do they enforce rules here, I here not much but I'd like to be safe. I'm staying at the haiyatt in Houjie town and just want to keep it on the downlow, until I get my barrings. If I'm doing anything un cosher right now let me know, thanks again.
Ref
Hey Ref again. If I'm staying at a Hotel, how safe is it to call one of those "massage" girls to come by? How heavy do they enforce rules here, I here not much but I'd like to be safe. If I'm doing anything un cosher right now let me know, thanks again.
RefIf you asking one the the masseuses from the hotels own Sauna department coming up to you're room it's quite safe in my own opinion. If the hotels have their own KTV and saunas they rarely enforce anything because they're paying off the cops so they need you money from these services.
I'm a young man on buisness in DG. Anyone know of some good talent in DG?
PS: I'm also a KTV virgin.Will you still be in town in February?
Want to break you're KTV Cherry?
Mongerer69
01-18-11, 00:22
I will be arriving Hong Kong Airport March 3rd mid afternoon from Manila and on my way to DONG GUAN directly from HK airport. The company I will be visiting is in Dalang Town, Dongguan City. I will only be there for 1 night. Can somebody please recommend the best way from Hong Kong Airport to Dong Guan (Ferry Train or Coach) AND. If you are familiar with the area, which is the best Hotel / Sauna to stay at with a Macau Style."Kick Ass" Sauna 100 Girl Line Up? Your help is greatly appreciatied.
I will be arriving Hong Kong Airport March 3rd mid afternoon from Manila and on my way to DONG GUAN directly from HK airport. The company I will be visiting is in Dalang Town, Dongguan City. I will only be there for 1 night. Can somebody please recommend the best way from Hong Kong Airport to Dong Guan (Ferry Train or Coach) AND. If you are familiar with the area, which is the best Hotel / Sauna to stay at with a Macau Style."Kick Ass" Sauna 100 Girl Line Up? Your help is greatly appreciatied.Dalang is pretty small, but full of good hotels.
From HKIA, follow the signs to the China Coaches (where minibuses or busses run into SZ and onto China). There will be ticket counters and you just tell them where you want to go. Say Dalang or give them the address. The fee to Chang Ping, Dong Guan is 210 rmb (or 220 HKD) one way. Get on minivan and it will take you to SZ for border check and then to your destination. If it does not stop at the hotel of your choice, take a cab, it may only run another 10-15 rmb.
I've been Royal Garden and it's the bomb. Royal Garden's got a top notch sauna and a very expensive KTV. Bring tons of money, but I think you'll be satisfied with the hot gals. I think there is also a Hyatt (don't quote me, but I thought it was shitty).
Thanks Acayu, ya the KTV at my hotel would be safer but I don't think even the mamasan speaks english, waltzed over there and the girls had no idea what I was saying, and my co workers would not approve so I'm kinda alone in this.
Also I think my leave date is around the 31st or the 1st of Feb, right before Chinese new year (getting to HK airport is going to be a *****!). Sorry man maybe next time.
What are the usual rates, I know it ranges but from what I hear its about 1000 RMD for a pop? All the stuff online and "massages and escorts" they say its an hour but I think an hour just means 1 pop. Which I think would be quite meh.
Bruce,
I think Hyatt Hotel in in SongShanHu Town, right by the lake. Very beautiful scenic place, but there's nothing around for miles- very isolated. But you are right, Royal Garden did have some HOT girls. But the price you pay is ridiculous! Haven't been back for years, but I'm assuming that Eurasia in CP took a lot of their girls. I keep hearing girls at Eurasia telling me how they use to work at Royal Garden KTV.
But from what I recall, the model girls in Royal Garden are really top notch, much prettier than Eurasia, but they are way too spoiled so they have the worst attitude ever!
Hey, since you've been KTV hoping recently, isn't there that 5 star hotel by the fruit market open already? People say the girls are bad there. Is that really true? I wanted to confirm with you because you usually are pretty honest about the quality of the chicks.
AsnDragon.
Dalang is pretty small, but full of good hotels.
From HKIA, follow the signs to the China Coaches (where minibuses or busses run into SZ and onto China). There will be ticket counters and you just tell them where you want to go. Say Dalang or give them the address. The fee to Chang Ping, Dong Guan is 210 rmb (or 220 HKD) one way. Get on minivan and it will take you to SZ for border check and then to your destination. If it does not stop at the hotel of your choice, take a cab, it may only run another 10-15 rmb.
I've been Royal Garden and it's the bomb. Royal Garden's got a top notch sauna and a very expensive KTV. Bring tons of money, but I think you'll be satisfied with the hot gals. I think there is also a Hyatt (don't quote me, but I thought it was shitty).
Mongerer69,
Don't quote me on this, but as I recall, there's another hotel, pretty upscale, but not nearly as expensive as Royal Garden, called Silver Springs Hotel. BigBoobMan has told me they have really good selection of girls at their Sauna venue. I think Silver Spring Hotel is in the Lang Town.
Also the spa, with legit foot massage hot tube etc. Is pretty nice at Royal Garden as well, but once again. Pricey.
AsnDragon.
I will be arriving Hong Kong Airport March 3rd mid afternoon from Manila and on my way to DONG GUAN directly from HK airport. The company I will be visiting is in Dalang Town, Dongguan City. I will only be there for 1 night. Can somebody please recommend the best way from Hong Kong Airport to Dong Guan (Ferry Train or Coach) AND. If you are familiar with the area, which is the best Hotel / Sauna to stay at with a Macau Style."Kick Ass" Sauna 100 Girl Line Up? Your help is greatly appreciatied.
SE Asia Joe
01-19-11, 13:11
Bruce,
I think Hyatt Hotel in in SongShanHu Town, right by the lake. Very beautiful scenic place, but there's nothing around for miles- very isolated. But you are right, Royal Garden did have some HOT girls. But the price you pay is ridiculous! Haven't been back for years, but I'm assuming that Eurasia in CP took a lot of their girls. I keep hearing girls at Eurasia telling me how they use to work at Royal Garden KTV.
But from what I recall, the model girls in Royal Garden are really top notch, much prettier than Eurasia, but they are way too spoiled so they have the worst attitude ever! I think the Hyatt is a totally veggie place, in line with the USA hotel management running the place.
As far as the Royal Garden is concerned, IMHO, the whole place is geared towards pleasing the local Big shots and not the casual visitors; especially bad for those from far away and NOT likely to be repeat and regular customers i.e. Errr..... most ISG'ers? LOL!
They go all out to cater to these local factory owners and big shots as these guys ARE big spenders and they do come back time and time again. Us guys from Hong Kong, and from further away, are many times treated as second class citizens there, and only tolerated. That is of course unless you are prepared to "Flash Your Way" in by throwing RMB's like a drunken sailor. And I say.... Why should I? They can go to h... L as far as I'm concerned. The same sort of thing also happens at the Crown Prince, but not as bad as at the Royal Garden. Just IMHO only of course.
Hey, since you've been KTV hoping recently, isn't there that 5 star hotel by the fruit market open already? People say the girls are bad there. Is that really true? I wanted to confirm with you because you usually are pretty honest about the quality of the chicks.
AsnDragon. Check out Jim Travelers report #4678 (right now pg 4) and my C+p in report #4670 (right now pg 5) on the Yi Hao
SEAJ
I think the Hyatt is a totally veggie place, in line with the USA hotel management running the place.
As far as the Royal Garden is concerned, IMHO, the whole place is geared towards pleasing the local Big shots and not the casual visitors; especially bad for those from far away and NOT likely to be repeat and regular customers I. E. Errr. Most ISG'ers? LOL! Would you say a lot of Taiwanese businessmen going to Royal Garden? At least more than HK guys?
Meiguoguizi
01-19-11, 15:40
These cold weeks the fatgirl option doesn't work for me; I've got a bad back and like to spin the short skinny girls without pulling out.
What hotels in Changping have bathtubs in the guest rooms?
Jettsetter
01-19-11, 18:52
These cold weeks the fatgirl option doesn't work for me; I've got a bad back and like to spin the short skinny girls without pulling out.
What hotels in Changping have bathtubs in the guest rooms? For cheaper options. Virgin does. (but Virgin is a shower / tub combo)
For higher end, I know that Hui Hua does and so does Eurasia (at least the rooms I saw). (these are separate tubs from the shower).
I know that Fu Hao and Clipper do not. But that's about the extent of my hotel experiences. I'm not sure about Miraton or Mayflower.
Not sure where else people stay at. I think the lower end hotels will not have bath tubs. But then again, haven't stayed so don't know.
-J
What are the usual rates, I know it ranges but from what I hear its about 1000 RMD for a pop? All the stuff online and "massages and escorts" they say its an hour but I think an hour just means 1 pop. Which I think would be quite meh.The usual Rates should be 2/5/8 for the most girls. 3/6/9 or 10 up to 5/15/20 and thats just ridiculous because there is almost no differences in the girls maybe in the height only and the rates stands for Drinking time / Short time / All night. These are KTV's rates about the massage rates, there is 300/400 or 600 depending on which kind of girls you choose and don't forget the room rate if you use their rooms but if you are calling the girls up to you count only the girls rateand the time usually means around 1h to 90 minutes, that goes for 1 pop maybe twice if you're lucky.
SE Asia Joe
01-20-11, 03:05
For cheaper options. Virgin does. (but Virgin is a shower / tub combo)
For higher end, I know that Hui Hua does and so does Eurasia (at least the rooms I saw). (these are separate tubs from the shower).
I know that Fu Hao and Clipper do not. But that's about the extent of my hotel experiences. I'm not sure about Miraton or Mayflower.
Not sure where else people stay at. I think the lower end hotels will not have bath tubs. But then again, haven't stayed so don't know.
-JSlight correction on the Clipper. There are 2 rooms on each floor with a huge round bath-tub / jacuzzi as center piece of the rooms.
And the Miraton rooms do have nice separate bath-tubs. Only problem with the Miraton bathrooms is that when you use the shower cabinet, the whole bathroom floods and to a large extent, the same thing happens if you're not careful using the bath-tub. I think this is also a problem at the Hui Hua.
Some of rooms of the older hotels I THINK has bath tubs. I know that the Lucky did (is it still closed down?) and believe also the Hui Mei, The Walter and the Red Lion. Although not sure as it's been ages since I last went to the rooms there.
Meiguoguizi. Why not just ask before you reserve a room?
SEAJ
SEAJOE,
Thanks for pointing out Yi Hao's bad quality of girls, courtesy of Jim Traveler. I guess too many KTV rooms have popped up that there's just not enough mongers to fill them up. Even Haixia Hotel that's only been open for less than one year had trouble paying their own employees, that many left without pay and started working at Baby's BBS a few months back- BTW she was a really hot skinny silky creamy skinned sichuan girl. The question is are there that many mongers in CP to suck up all of the KTV rooms? The big players like mayflower and Eurasia have no problem filling their rooms, but all the KTVs in between I would imagine are being hit quite hard with such huge supplies.
So back to flooding. Swan Lake's new wing, the cheaper side, flooded 2 times the last time I stayed there. But then again. It could just be that China girls have this amazing ability to flood, or many anything and everything wet in the hotel bathroom. It's like a bomb was set off in the bathroom after they use it. Water everywhere.
Miraton has that bad design on the rim of the bathroom drainage floor. I think Swan Lake's problem is more of the fact that their shower head sprays too much water too quickly that the drain has no way of taking in that much water. Just my opinion on my two stays at the new wing. Also, the advantages of the new wing is that the beds and comforters are much nicer and softer than the old wing. Problem is. There's only one elevator, which takes forever and it's still kind of creepy on that side of the wing. Even before they renovated back 5 years ago, I use to stay there and it just gave me the creeps. Don't know why. Perhaps it's the lack of windows or sunlight or something. Not to mention that a few years ago a pair of twins freaked me out about how they saw ghosts there. I thought it was funny at the time, but after hearing it all night long and all morning long it starts to get to you. I only stay in the Old Wing at Swan Lake.
AsnDragon.
Slight correction on the Clipper. There are 2 rooms on each floor with a huge round bath-tub / jacuzzi as center piece of the rooms.
And the Miraton rooms do have nice separate bath-tubs. Only problem with the Miraton bathrooms is that when you use the shower cabinet, the whole bathroom floods and to a large extent, the same thing happens if you're not careful using the bath-tub. I think this is also a problem at the Hui Hua.
Some of rooms of the older hotels I THINK has bath tubs. I know that the Lucky did (is it still closed down?) and believe also the Hui Mei, The Walter and the Red Lion. Although not sure as it's been ages since I last went to the rooms there.
Meiguoguizi. Why not just ask before you reserve a room?
SEAJ
Weelock,
From the few times that I've been to the Royal Garden and talking to the girls who've been there for a while, they tell me it's a good mixture of people.
- Taiwanese Factory Owners.
- Hong Kong Factory Owners.
- Local Mainland Factory Owners.
- Local Governmental Officials.
- Malaysian / Singaporean Businessman.
- Then you got the Taiwanese / HK / Singapore / Malaysian Factory Owner's Sons that came back from studying overseas that frequent the place.
As SEAJOE said. All the big shots with plenty of money to throw. The model girls are the biggest B*tches ever on this planet. The only good thing were the DJ's that work at Eurasia. They have got to be the prettiest DJ's I've ever seen. I always end up gravitating towards my DJ at Royal Garden, which is the biggest waste of money since I'm paying a very uninterested, be*itchy girl to sit next to me.
BTW- I actually saw one KTV girl working at Eurasia, who use to be a DJ at Royal Garden. I guess in the end, to make things meet, girls WILL do what they need to survive. And surviving as a DJ is not an easy task.
AsnDragon.
Would you say a lot of Taiwanese businessmen going to Royal Garden? At least more than HK guys?
After a busy period, I'm posting FR on my trip to Chanping early this month. I went there alone and decided to engage Big Swingin Dave service who showed me, as a relatively CP newbie, the rope and provided me with info on CP scene. Thanks to him, I had great fun with his KTV mix session as he could set up the party mood, and now I could play a few KTV games.
Went to Peninsula, Fu Hao, and Hyatt KTV. Peninsula was rather old, but I still like the main hall performance and dancers. The girls quality are okay and I am not disappointed with their looks. Went to Fu Hao on weekdays and I was told that their gals must report even on weekdays, so number of gals remain the same on weekdays which is a good thing due to less competition with other customers. No more pushy mommies on flower street and customers can choose at their own pace. I was told by BSD to stand in front of my KTV room on 2nd floor as gals will pass through that area on the way to flower street, and I managed to grab a pretty gal whom I brought home in the end. The other gal I got at flower street was quite okay too. Overall, I think Peninsula had better gals even though Fu Hao had younger gals. I did not have high expectation for Hyatt KTV session, but I had a great time there. No flower street and the quantity of gals were not many, however we arrived very early and saw a few gems. I got myself a pretty and fun gal. Overall, gals are above average. The rooms are new and overlooking the main hall. The main hall is better than the old Peninsula with a stage performance and dance floor below it. Sound system was quite good and I enjoyed our time dancing below the stage with the gals. This place is good for those who like dancing.
Tried BBS gals twice and even though their looks are okay, I did not enjoy it because very poor service. Nothing much to share here.
Went to sauna in Yi Hao, and I find their sauna rooms are good with mirrors on ceiling, steam room, and waterbed. However, I still find Euroasia sauna room slightly better. But gals are not many with an overall average quality. Hui Hua sauna's room was not bad with better gals selections. There was one Korean gal there tagged at 800. It was expensive but I've never seen such a pretty gal in sauna before and I just couldn't select others after seeing her. Unfortunately, she had gone back when I want to have her again. They still have another Korean gal there. Virgin sauna was very crowded and the gals were wearing costumes. I tried double with office lady and cheerleader, and I find that doing it with two gals was not for me. The office lady I had was very pretty but cheerleader average. Went to New Century hotel sauna as well and I find the room was below standard, however I found one young and fresh prettty gal there. They also have a 'junior' which you can have together with main gal for additional RMB 100. Mei Bao was too crowded at 3pm with more customers than gals and I didn't pick any gal. Also tried Chaperone for massage behind Lucky hotel and they have options of clean massage, body to body massage with further additional charge for sex. I chose the body to body and release which cost RMB 380 and was initially given 30+ year old pork chop, but I declined and got a 30 year old average looking gal instead. I thought I won't be able to 'release' but she was quite experienced and the prelude of body to body massage manage to arouse me enough and ended up satisfying sex. Apparently, they also have sauna above but I did not have a chance to go.
For seniors, any info on which saunas provide the '40 steps' service? I heard of red rope service before but I don't know where I can get it in CP. Any help?
Lee,
Great First report! Red ropes have been banned in CP, because few years back a girl slipped and fell on her head and broke her neck and died. Every since then no red rope service has shown up in any Sauna venues in CP.
Some places you might consider for red ropes are going to Huizhou-Meigouzhou (sorry if I mispelled your handle) he's an expert on Huizhou Saunas, Xiamen.
You pretty much tried out all of the famous saunas in CP. Other recommendations:
CP- Mariton Hotel Sauna, Clipper Hotel (not many girls but when you get a good one it's really good service) , Hui Mei- a bit run down compared to Hui Hua, but sometimes you see good girls.
Tangxia- Sangem Hotel Sauna (expensive) , Golden Island Sauna.
Huangjiang- Prince Hotel Sauna (expensive, but they have 100% glass rooms and hot girls)
DaLang- Royal Garden Hotel (way expensive) , Silver Spring Hotel Sauna.
Houjie- Sheraton Hotel (expensive but best rooms ever) Cinese Hotel Sauna.
ChangAn- Well known Sauna town. All spread out.
AsnDragon.
After a busy period, I'm posting FR on my trip to Chanping early this month. I went there alone and decided to engage Big Swingin Dave service who showed me, as a relatively CP newbie, the rope and provided me with info on CP scene. Thanks to him, I had great fun with his KTV mix session as he could set up the party mood, and now I could play a few KTV games.
Went to Peninsula, Fu Hao, and Hyatt KTV. Peninsula was rather old, but I still like the main hall performance and dancers. The girls quality are okay and I am not disappointed with their looks. Went to Fu Hao on weekdays and I was told that their gals must report even on weekdays, so number of gals remain the same on weekdays which is a good thing due to less competition with other customers. No more pushy mommies on flower street and customers can choose at their own pace. I was told by BSD to stand in front of my KTV room on 2nd floor as gals will pass through that area on the way to flower street, and I managed to grab a pretty gal whom I brought home in the end. The other gal I got at flower street was quite okay too. Overall, I think Peninsula had better gals even though Fu Hao had younger gals. I did not have high expectation for Hyatt KTV session, but I had a great time there. No flower street and the quantity of gals were not many, however we arrived very early and saw a few gems. I got myself a pretty and fun gal. Overall, gals are above average. The rooms are new and overlooking the main hall. The main hall is better than the old Peninsula with a stage performance and dance floor below it. Sound system was quite good and I enjoyed our time dancing below the stage with the gals. This place is good for those who like dancing.
Tried BBS gals twice and even though their looks are okay, I did not enjoy it because very poor service. Nothing much to share here.
Went to sauna in Yi Hao, and I find their sauna rooms are good with mirrors on ceiling, steam room, and waterbed. However, I still find Euroasia sauna room slightly better. But gals are not many with an overall average quality. Hui Hua sauna's room was not bad with better gals selections. There was one Korean gal there tagged at 800. It was expensive but I've never seen such a pretty gal in sauna before and I just couldn't select others after seeing her. Unfortunately, she had gone back when I want to have her again. They still have another Korean gal there. Virgin sauna was very crowded and the gals were wearing costumes. I tried double with office lady and cheerleader, and I find that doing it with two gals was not for me. The office lady I had was very pretty but cheerleader average. Went to New Century hotel sauna as well and I find the room was below standard, however I found one young and fresh prettty gal there. They also have a 'junior' which you can have together with main gal for additional RMB 100. Mei Bao was too crowded at 3pm with more customers than gals and I didn't pick any gal. Also tried Chaperone for massage behind Lucky hotel and they have options of clean massage, body to body massage with further additional charge for sex. I chose the body to body and release which cost RMB 380 and was initially given 30+ year old pork chop, but I declined and got a 30 year old average looking gal instead. I thought I won't be able to 'release' but she was quite experienced and the prelude of body to body massage manage to arouse me enough and ended up satisfying sex. Apparently, they also have sauna above but I did not have a chance to go.
For seniors, any info on which saunas provide the '40 steps' service? I heard of red rope service before but I don't know where I can get it in CP. Any help?
Lee,
I've heard of others posting up on the board about Korean girls working in Saunas in CP. Do you happen to know her number? How hot was she? Just taller? Or prettier than usual due to plastic surgery? I'm curious because I've never seen a Korean working in China before.
Now I get Korean girls throughout the year. So when I come to China, I want Chinese girls. Reason being is. Chinese girls on average are natural. They don't go through plastic surgery to enhance their looks. I plan to live it up while CHinese girls on average are all pretty natural, because I know that the trend in the near future is Plastic Surgery is going to be rampant in China. In fact it already is becoming increasingly rampant. I see so many girls in Shenzhen that admit to me that the have plastic surgery. It'll only be a matter of time when this plastic surgery craze spreads to second and third tier cities and even eventually bigger townships in China.
Plastic Surgery is nothing bad, it's just China is unique in that when you search through all the line ups and girls walking on the streets and you pick out a really hot girl and you know that she's natural with no plastic surgery enhancement it just makes her look THAT much prettier and it's just THAT much more rare and THAT much more exciting to see such natural beauty. Let's face it, without plastic surgery Koreans look quite ugly. You walk the streets, perhaps not in Seoul since about 45% of the population has plastic surgery, but go to Pusan or other cities, most of the girls are really ugly looking. Whereas you go to an average city in China and I see a lot of beauties and on average people are fairly decent looking.
Besides-I have no many Koreans throughout the year I'm tired of feeling fake breast implants. It's hard and poorly done and it feels like a water bag. Unless they have it done by professional elites in Japan, most of them are as hard as a rock!
AsnDragon.
After a busy period, I'm posting FR on my trip to Chanping early this month. I went there alone and decided to engage Big Swingin Dave service who showed me, as a relatively CP newbie, the rope and provided me with info on CP scene. Thanks to him, I had great fun with his KTV mix session as he could set up the party mood, and now I could play a few KTV games.
Went to Peninsula, Fu Hao, and Hyatt KTV. Peninsula was rather old, but I still like the main hall performance and dancers. The girls quality are okay and I am not disappointed with their looks. Went to Fu Hao on weekdays and I was told that their gals must report even on weekdays, so number of gals remain the same on weekdays which is a good thing due to less competition with other customers. No more pushy mommies on flower street and customers can choose at their own pace. I was told by BSD to stand in front of my KTV room on 2nd floor as gals will pass through that area on the way to flower street, and I managed to grab a pretty gal whom I brought home in the end. The other gal I got at flower street was quite okay too. Overall, I think Peninsula had better gals even though Fu Hao had younger gals. I did not have high expectation for Hyatt KTV session, but I had a great time there. No flower street and the quantity of gals were not many, however we arrived very early and saw a few gems. I got myself a pretty and fun gal. Overall, gals are above average. The rooms are new and overlooking the main hall. The main hall is better than the old Peninsula with a stage performance and dance floor below it. Sound system was quite good and I enjoyed our time dancing below the stage with the gals. This place is good for those who like dancing.
Tried BBS gals twice and even though their looks are okay, I did not enjoy it because very poor service. Nothing much to share here.
Went to sauna in Yi Hao, and I find their sauna rooms are good with mirrors on ceiling, steam room, and waterbed. However, I still find Euroasia sauna room slightly better. But gals are not many with an overall average quality. Hui Hua sauna's room was not bad with better gals selections. There was one Korean gal there tagged at 800. It was expensive but I've never seen such a pretty gal in sauna before and I just couldn't select others after seeing her. Unfortunately, she had gone back when I want to have her again. They still have another Korean gal there. Virgin sauna was very crowded and the gals were wearing costumes. I tried double with office lady and cheerleader, and I find that doing it with two gals was not for me. The office lady I had was very pretty but cheerleader average. Went to New Century hotel sauna as well and I find the room was below standard, however I found one young and fresh prettty gal there. They also have a 'junior' which you can have together with main gal for additional RMB 100. Mei Bao was too crowded at 3pm with more customers than gals and I didn't pick any gal. Also tried Chaperone for massage behind Lucky hotel and they have options of clean massage, body to body massage with further additional charge for sex. I chose the body to body and release which cost RMB 380 and was initially given 30+ year old pork chop, but I declined and got a 30 year old average looking gal instead. I thought I won't be able to 'release' but she was quite experienced and the prelude of body to body massage manage to arouse me enough and ended up satisfying sex. Apparently, they also have sauna above but I did not have a chance to go.
For seniors, any info on which saunas provide the '40 steps' service? I heard of red rope service before but I don't know where I can get it in CP. Any help?
Lee,
I've heard of others posting up on the board about Korean girls working in Saunas in CP. Do you happen to know her number? How hot was she? Just taller? Or prettier than usual due to plastic surgery? I'm curious because I've never seen a Korean working in China before.
AsnDragon. When I was in CP last year, around Sept 2010 late at night. I happened to see two Russian girls in the streets leaving Starbucks. I then followed them from a far distance. I stopped following them when they went up the elevators at Hui Hua Hotel. The next day I went looking for them and found them. Prices were 1000 and I think other was 800 rmb. The time was only 60 mins. I wanted to get a better look but both were busy. Two managers were trying to get me to switch to Chinese girls. For the price, service and time I could get two Chinese girls and double the time. I then asked about the "Korean girls" and was told they no longer work at HH but might be back at a future date. They told me HH had two "Korean girls" a few months ago. A few days later I went back to check but both Russian girls were busy again. From a distance, I would rate the Russian girls average to less than average looking. There were about 5'4" tall. One had fake blonde hair. I left CP not getting a better look at the Russian girls.
AsnDragon,
I lived in Korea 3 yrs and speak Korean. My advice, take the Korean girls in the US and the Chinese girls in China. As you know, some quality girls come to the US on easy 3 month visas incognito to work off their plastic surgery and credit card bills in Korea. In China, you can get whatever you like, even a Korean-looking Chinese girl. Anyway, most Korean girls look alike IMHO.
Lee,
I've heard of others posting up on the board about Korean girls working in Saunas in CP. Do you happen to know her number? How hot was she? Just taller? Or prettier than usual due to plastic surgery? I'm curious because I've never seen a Korean working in China before.
Now I get Korean girls throughout the year. So when I come to China, I want Chinese girls. Reason being is. Chinese girls on average are natural. They don't go through plastic surgery to enhance their looks. I plan to live it up while CHinese girls on average are all pretty natural, because I know that the trend in the near future is Plastic Surgery is going to be rampant in China. In fact it already is becoming increasingly rampant. I see so many girls in Shenzhen that admit to me that the have plastic surgery. It'll only be a matter of time when this plastic surgery craze spreads to second and third tier cities and even eventually bigger townships in China.
Plastic Surgery is nothing bad, it's just China is unique in that when you search through all the line ups and girls walking on the streets and you pick out a really hot girl and you know that she's natural with no plastic surgery enhancement it just makes her look THAT much prettier and it's just THAT much more rare and THAT much more exciting to see such natural beauty. Let's face it, without plastic surgery Koreans look quite ugly. You walk the streets, perhaps not in Seoul since about 45% of the population has plastic surgery, but go to Pusan or other cities, most of the girls are really ugly looking. Whereas you go to an average city in China and I see a lot of beauties and on average people are fairly decent looking.
Besides-I have no many Koreans throughout the year I'm tired of feeling fake breast implants. It's hard and poorly done and it feels like a water bag. Unless they have it done by professional elites in Japan, most of them are as hard as a rock!
AsnDragon
Weelock,
That's interesting, when I was at Tangxia Golden Island a few months back they had Russian girls as well. Same pricing 1000 RMB and 60 mins, less service. I didn't get to see what they looked like, but I asked my CHinese Sauna girl if they were pretty and she said the Russian Girls are even skinner than she was. And my Sauna girl was pretty damn skinny. So I figured perhaps some of these Russian girls were trafficked or Druggies I don't know.
Apparently in all Asian countries (perhaps excluding Macau) all of the Russian Chicks or European Chicks are not really good looking. Same thing happened in Thailand. Those Russian girls are a poor excuse to even be a WG. I also suspect that many of the "Russian" girls are actually NOT Russian, but actually Ukrainian- since they have one of the highest Prostitution rates amongst their female population.
Anyhow, I find it pretty interesting how CP is really importing all of these different working girls to work at their Saunas. I wonder as China becomes even more Rich, if it'll be like another UAE, where they have so huge varieties of WG from all over the world come on over. But I doubt it since China people usually only prefer girls with fair skin. That eliminates a lot of other countries out there.
I once had a girl at Virgin Sauna, who worked at another Sauna at Wangjiang District of Dongguan City. She told me that in her Sauna they had a whole bunch of girls from Cambodia, Burma and other South East Asian Countries. And lots of Local Chinese love to pick them because they just wanted to try something new. But my Girl tells me that they were Dark and really unattractive, but many Local Chinese guys are intrigued and like the novelty factor of choosing them.
I wonder if any of the Koreans are really good looking? Because there's so many other places like working in HK or the USA where they could earn so much more money and give so much less service, I wonder if these Korean Girls are the leftovers that couldn't survive or make it in other more "profitable" countries.
AsnDragon.
When I was in CP last year, around Sept 2010 late at night. I happened to see two Russian girls in the streets leaving Starbucks. I then followed them from a far distance. I stopped following them when they went up the elevators at Hui Hua Hotel. The next day I went looking for them and found them. Prices were 1000 and I think other was 800 rmb. The time was only 60 mins. I wanted to get a better look but both were busy. Two managers were trying to get me to switch to Chinese girls. For the price, service and time I could get two Chinese girls and double the time. I then asked about the "Korean girls" and was told they no longer work at HH but might be back at a future date. They told me HH had two "Korean girls" a few months ago. A few days later I went back to check but both Russian girls were busy again. From a distance, I would rate the Russian girls average to less than average looking. There were about 5'4" tall. One had fake blonde hair. I left CP not getting a better look at the Russian girls.
After a busy period, I'm posting FR on my trip to Chanping early this month. I went there alone and decided to engage Big Swingin Dave service who showed me, as a relatively CP newbie, the rope and provided me with info on CP scene. Thanks to him, I had great fun with his KTV mix session as he could set up the party mood, and now I could play a few KTV games.
Went to Peninsula, Fu Hao, and Hyatt KTV. Peninsula was rather old, but I still like the main hall performance and dancers. The girls quality are okay and I am not disappointed with their looks. Went to Fu Hao on weekdays and I was told that their gals must report even on weekdays, so number of gals remain the same on weekdays which is a good thing due to less competition with other customers. No more pushy mommies on flower street and customers can choose at their own pace. I was told by BSD to stand in front of my KTV room on 2nd floor as gals will pass through that area on the way to flower street, and I managed to grab a pretty gal whom I brought home in the end. The other gal I got at flower street was quite okay too. Overall, I think Peninsula had better gals even though Fu Hao had younger gals. I did not have high expectation for Hyatt KTV session, but I had a great time there. No flower street and the quantity of gals were not many, however we arrived very early and saw a few gems. I got myself a pretty and fun gal. Overall, gals are above average. The rooms are new and overlooking the main hall. The main hall is better than the old Peninsula with a stage performance and dance floor below it. Sound system was quite good and I enjoyed our time dancing below the stage with the gals. This place is good for those who like dancing.
Tried BBS gals twice and even though their looks are okay, I did not enjoy it because very poor service. Nothing much to share here.
Went to sauna in Yi Hao, and I find their sauna rooms are good with mirrors on ceiling, steam room, and waterbed. However, I still find Euroasia sauna room slightly better. But gals are not many with an overall average quality. Hui Hua sauna's room was not bad with better gals selections. There was one Korean gal there tagged at 800. It was expensive but I've never seen such a pretty gal in sauna before and I just couldn't select others after seeing her. Unfortunately, she had gone back when I want to have her again. They still have another Korean gal there. Virgin sauna was very crowded and the gals were wearing costumes. I tried double with office lady and cheerleader, and I find that doing it with two gals was not for me. The office lady I had was very pretty but cheerleader average. Went to New Century hotel sauna as well and I find the room was below standard, however I found one young and fresh prettty gal there. They also have a 'junior' which you can have together with main gal for additional RMB 100. Mei Bao was too crowded at 3pm with more customers than gals and I didn't pick any gal. Also tried Chaperone for massage behind Lucky hotel and they have options of clean massage, body to body massage with further additional charge for sex. I chose the body to body and release which cost RMB 380 and was initially given 30+ year old pork chop, but I declined and got a 30 year old average looking gal instead. I thought I won't be able to 'release' but she was quite experienced and the prelude of body to body massage manage to arouse me enough and ended up satisfying sex. Apparently, they also have sauna above but I did not have a chance to go.
For seniors, any info on which saunas provide the '40 steps' service? I heard of red rope service before but I don't know where I can get it in CP. Any help? Great report Lee. Disclaimer: I speak perfect Mandarin / Cantonese. I do not claim to be an expert.
As for the 40 steps service, it's actually 32 or 36 steps, depending on where you go. I haven't seen much reports on DG saunas around here, and you will see why at the end of this post.
While DG is well-known for the scale of its KTVs, KTVs are quite common all throughout China, albeit in smaller scale (although DG-scale KTVs can easily be found if you know where to go in many other cities.) DG, to the Chinese people, is really known for it's sauna service. The 32/36 is known as GuanISO (Yes, the ISO for the international quality standard, and in this, Dong GUAN Iso, get it?) OR Guan-Style Standard (Guan Shi Biao Zhun)
All saunas frequented by locals (the locals in this case, refer to anyone that speaks Chinese) practice this GuanISO one way or another, and it doesn't matter what tier of girl you choose. For example, if the sauna is tiered at 400, 500, 600, all of them will perform the GuanISO. But the 2 different business models cause variation in the service.
There are 2 types of sauna business models, the freelance-model and the management-based model. In the freelance model, girls are tested and if they perform to a certain standard, they are let-in. Even though the girl will receive deductions for lackluster service, they're free to go as they're not chained by the company (sauna) as a long-term employee. The advantage of this model is that you're quicker to receive new ladies. However, it is not the best in terms of quality guarantee. The management model strives to make the girl a long-term employee of the company (sauna). It takes them longer to get new girls but the management takes quality much more seriously. Case in point, one management company (sauna) gives all guests a procedure card, describing all 32/36 steps. If you know what you're getting into, you won't get tricked / the girl can't be lazy.
So what is the difference between 4, 5.6, or let's say 6, 8.10? The differences are really arbitrary. 4s are generally "meatier", and some 5s are golden, and the odds that a 6 is good-looking are pretty high. It doesn't matter what the price range, they're always priced low / med / high. The biggest difference I've found is that the high-tier girls are usually better strip dancers (they do it at the beginning) and better at working the pole (not all places have a pole). It's damn sexy when they do it right and a very nice value-add. Sometimes, the high-tier girls in business suits are "trainers / mentors". They are responsible for teaching other girls (but you need to confirm with the manager whether they are a trainer or not. Generally, the high-tier wears a dress. Out of 6 high teirs you'd probably get 2 trainers). Pick a trainer and you won't be sorry, I promise.
Why is it hard to get in contact with some of these places? Because of the huge 2008 crack-down, managers are a lot more careful about passing out business cards. Sometimes they go the extreme of not even picking up unknown phone numbers. The best saunas do NOT advertise in public at all. For example, my favorite is at the 8th floor of a hotel, but there is NO mention of the hotel having a sauna ANYWHERE. If you take the elevator to the 8th floor, but have not made an appointment with a manager, you'll get outright rejected.
So how do you get phone numbers of managers? They run limited advertisement on Hong Kong websites (I. E, they close the ad after a certain time) After you go there, do the deed, pay, the manager will then hand you a phone card, which makes your next visit considerably easier. However, if you don't speak Chinese, you better get your friend to make the appointment for you.
The manager, if he / she is good, plays an integral part in selecting the perfect companion for the next 130/150minutes. A good sauna has over 20+ ladies to choose from at peak hour (early evening) and often times the stage can't fit them all. The ideal way is to ask the manager for the ladies number once she dons the catwalk, and once all ladies are out, tell the manager all of the ones you find attractive to come to your little area. This way, you'll always get the one you want. Trust me, there will be competition from fellow mongers.
I have no idea if some of these "exclusive" places accept foreigners. My favorite place is not even the most expensive place I've been. They have a fair price of 4, 5.6, and all girls carry the procedure card to ensure quality. Some 6s are really tall and have great assets.
Hell, since another helpful member is organizing KTV sessions, maybe I should organize sauna raids? PM me if you speak Chinese, I can send you some phone numbers.
AsnDragon.
I wonder if any of the Koreans are really good looking? Because there's so many other places like working in HK or the USA where they could earn so much more money and give so much less service, I wonder if these Korean Girls are the leftovers that couldn't survive or make it in other more "profitable" countries. My experience with Korean girls was in Macau 5 or 6 years back in a sauna place, me and my friend went to macau for some gambling and some R&R in the sauna after a nice win in the casino.
At first when the line up came I didn't know that the girl was korean, I liked her because she was a little bit taller than your usual Chinese girls and quite nice looking (about 8 for the face and 9 on the body) so I talked to the floor manager and picked her and he told me she was korean and asked me if it was ok.
I didn't think much about it and said yes but the experience was nice except for that she didn't speak either English or Chinese and I didn't speak korean so it was very much our actions that did the talking.
AsnDragon,
Thanks for your useful info on Sauna. I will probably try those in TangXia next time.
As for the Korean girl I saw, she's the best looking among the gals in Hui Hua in terms of face. I would rate she is one in 200 for CP working gals (KTV and sauna). I have also thought initially about plastic surgery on her face. At least for me, I can't find any evidence of plastic surgery done on her. If she had one, it was a job well done. Her breast had no implants and it was just above average with B+ cup size and she had well toned body. She is definitely not for boob lovers. I am a boob lover myself but she compensated it with her beauty and well toned body. I think Korean gals just know how to enjoy sex and were more open to it. This girl initiate Frenching and ride on top of me nonstop for probably 15 minutes. Many Chinese gals would already ask to change to misionary if it lasted that long and I had many incidents when they only cowgal for 2 minutes and already complained being tired, which could turn me off. That is one of the reason I returned again for her, and also the reason I failed to find her because she was booked for 3-4 days to Hongkong by customers. Tagged at RMB 800 per session, I'm curious to know how much that customer had to pay for her companion. Too bad, she went back already after that. BTW, she speak English too as she was in University and I think she was happy to be able to have conversation with somebody as she can't speak Mandarin.
Currently, there is one Korean tagged at same price. But I heard from other gals, she had big fake boobs. I am also a natural girl lover, so I did not ask for her after knowing this. In the end, I agree with you and I would choose a natural China gal over a silicon Korean gal. I just wish that China girl could be more open to sex and also naturally loving it.
Acyau,
The Korean gals I got went to Macau sauna initially too. I guess many of them went to Macau because it is more popular and probably better paid. She was in CP to visit her friend. Lucky for me, there is no language barrier as she can speak English. In fact, it was because she can't speak Mandarin and feel lonely and she's happy to be able to talk to somebody. Girls can't live without talking.
Temujin87,
Now I understand why I can't seem to find red ropes in CP! Your info is very enlightening.
But I can still expect a good 32-36 steps service, right?
I speak Mandarin. Will pm you.
Mongerer69
01-22-11, 11:57
Temujin87. Are you saying the DG saunas will refuse you if you don't have an appointment? I plan on visiting Virgin Sauna and don't want to be disappointed.
Hi Monger, no, that's not what I'm saying. Some more private ones will.
Hi Lee, as far as I know, red ropes hasn't been the "GuanISO" routine for awhile.
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