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Jay Bird

01-07-13, 08:36

I'm new to Suzhou but found many bbs establishments downtown. I just walked up an alley north of Ganjiang Xi Road just west of Renmin road and discovered at least 8 by roaming around the backstreets. Also, coming back from SIP on Mohe road, just south of Shiquan jie I noticed a few there as well. This I've found in my limited number of journeys so far, so I'm sure there's a lot more out there.Baxbore,

If you could be a little bit more specific regarding the BBS location it will be highly appreciated. I'm a huge fan. Unfortunately I've seen quite a number of BBS disappear from Downtown the past few years, which is a pity. Normally I travel from SIP to SND to find BBS action.

One place I've visited with good experience lately are the shops on Yang Zhi Tang Lu. It's just were the elevated road is coming down. It's not so easy to spot as parts of the windows are blinded. Also here there were more action before, with street walkers as well, now there are just 2-3 shops left. However, it's what I've found closest to SIP.

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Baxbore

01-15-13, 20:58

OK Jay Bird. I'm sorry I'm not technically inclined enough to label google maps.

For one BBS area, walk south on Moye Road from the Shiquan intersection and you'll see plenty of young beautiful girls on the east side of Moye Road inside a few joints. There is a market street called Fengmen Cross Street (just off of Moye Road) that has also more BBSes but the girls looked less appealing there. The young girls say they don't do FS and they try to rush you. But I became more familiar with one and she now does outcall at my apartment. She's a nice firm and well proportioned 22 year-old, but asks for double the price because of outcall. When I'm too lazy to go out I call her. It's not a bad experience, definitely not.

Yongdingsi Long (alley) just off of Ganjiangxi lu a bit west of Renmin Lu has has at least eight BBSes in the area. Walk up Yongdingsi Long about 100 m and you'll come across about 4-5 places. Turn left after the second alley (I believe) and you'll come accross another four or so. A mix of young and not so young girls. There are a couple of hotties in the area. Unfortunately one won't go with a foreigner. Another is very cute and has a nice body, but she doesn't go all the way. I get her to give a massage for an hour or two and she let's me roam all for 50 RMB per hh. She's pleasant also to talk to if you know some Chinese (she actually teaches me at the same time. My weekly Chinese teacher).

There is another area that I found that is my favourite in downtown. But that area I'm going to keep to myself for now (sorry) in case the suzhou police are reading this post and ready to raid. I'll post the location after I leave Suzhou. One place there has about 6-7 girls in it. It seems more like they are geared to do massage, but they'll also do FS. I have a favourite there, but there are a couple of other cuties that I'd like to try. I like it because you can actually get a message first, do some roaming, and then when you're all built up you can move on to the next stage. Usually after two hours in the joint the girl is satisfied with about 300 RMB (100 per hour + 100 tip).

I hope you like that detail.

Jay Bird

01-17-13, 03:35

Thanks Baxbore. You're directions are more than good enough.

I'm looking forward to spend some time around that are, most likely having an enjoyable time.

I understand your concern regarding the police raids, however, I do not find it very likely to happen. During my years in Suzhou I've seen very few of those.

I hope other readers of this forum can both benefit and contribute from your inputs, looking forward to read.

OK Jay Bird. I'm sorry I'm not technically inclined enough to label google maps.

For one BBS area, walk south on Moye Road from the Shiquan intersection and you'll see plenty of young beautiful girls on the east side of Moye Road inside a few joints. There is a market street called Fengmen Cross Street (just off of Moye Road) that has also more BBSes but the girls looked less appealing there. The young girls say they don't do FS and they try to rush you. But I became more familiar with one and she now does outcall at my apartment. She's a nice firm and well proportioned 22 year-old, but asks for double the price because of outcall. When I'm too lazy to go out I call her. It's not a bad experience, definitely not.

Yongdingsi Long (alley) just off of Ganjiangxi lu a bit west of Renmin Lu has has at least eight BBSes in the area. Walk up Yongdingsi Long about 100 m and you'll come across about 4-5 places. Turn left after the second alley (I believe) and you'll come accross another four or so. A mix of young and not so young girls. There are a couple of hotties in the area. Unfortunately one won't go with a foreigner. Another is very cute and has a nice body, but she doesn't go all the way. I get her to give a massage for an hour or two and she let's me roam all for 50 RMB per hh. She's pleasant also to talk to if you know some Chinese (she actually teaches me at the same time. My weekly Chinese teacher).

There is another area that I found that is my favourite in downtown. But that area I'm going to keep to myself for now (sorry) in case the suzhou police are reading this post and ready to raid. I'll post the location after I leave Suzhou. One place there has about 6-7 girls in it. It seems more like they are geared to do massage, but they'll also do FS. I have a favourite there, but there are a couple of other cuties that I'd like to try. I like it because you can actually get a message first, do some roaming, and then when you're all built up you can move on to the next stage. Usually after two hours in the joint the girl is satisfied with about 300 RMB (100 per hour + 100 tip).

I hope you like that detail.

Member #4218

01-17-13, 18:09

OK, I have been getting tired of the gal I have at the Elephant Massage place and even with the discount (238 RMB for 90 minutes right now) it just isn't all that appealing. So I tried something new. I went to the big Massage place on the corner of Suya Road and Xingdu Street, it is basically just down the street from the Elephant place and always has about 50 Ebikes parked in front of it. It is a professional place with windows on the doors so there is no hanky panky. It is 98 RMB for 60 minutes of real massage, no roaming, or 80 RMB before 6 PM.

Well I went two times and the first time I got a gal who was just not my style. The 2nd time I went I got a gal that while she isn't the prettiest, she is really nice and hot in a girl next door sort of way. I started talking to her as I have some Chinese now, and she and I really hit it off. I came back a couple of times and really like the tension I was feeling with her. Then after the 3rd time I started letting my hands wander here and there in discreet ways. Well after the 5th visit she was letting me feel her up pretty good and seemed to be into it. I got her QQ on the first time and we would talk here and there late at night on QQ too.

Well, she turns out to be quite the horn dog. After the 4th or 5th time she let me rub her pussy through her pants while she rubbed my back. You can imagine my surprise when she started grabbing my pants and rubbing my back side while she actually came right there in the massage place. Now it isn't that sort of place so you can imagine my delight. Well I invited her on an overnight trip after that and she accepted. I took her on her first airplane and we stayed overnight in another city on business, she stayed in the hotel while I worked and we made out and had some seriously good loving, all for free.

Tomorrow morning I'm picking her up before work to go to a hotel for a couple of hours, not tip or fee at all. She was married once when she was 19 and has only had sex with her husband before. It is really a nice non-working girl and it is much more exciting for both of us. I was the first on to go down on her and she was totally surprised by the idea and really loved it!

If you speak any Chinese and look decent, you may need to try this place out, there are at least 50 girls there and there are some pretty ones too.

German Man

01-22-13, 19:32

Instrument

01-23-13, 18:01

Hi MakeoutGuy,

I sent you a PM.

Hope to hear soon from you.

Instrument

Pushkin13

01-27-13, 03:53

Dear all,

I will be in Changshu on business for a while. Apart from traveling to Suzhou or Shanghai, does anyone have information about which places to visit / avoid there?

Specifically I'd be interested in spa / massage places or pickup bars.

Thanks in advance!There are lots of posting concerning Changzhou. There used to be a street scene about 20 mins by cab south of the railway station (see my posts from 2 years back). However, most of the action is north of the railway station. Last year (2012) there were some informative posts about this action.

If you can speak a little putonghua then you might be able to "score" at a sauna. Most saunas have something on offer.

I had luck several years ago at a south-side BBS (vicinity of the railway station). She came back to my hotel after work and for 300kuai, did the deed.

Next night, for 400kuai in the hotel room, gave me almost GFE.

Outside a south-side hotel, I was approached by an "almost MILF", and she turned out to be a keeper. .

There are gems to be found.

Hope that this helps.

Enjoy and report.

P13

StreetHawk

01-30-13, 20:50

Been checkin out the bars on the street quite regularly for the past while. Here's my take on the scene:

Dream Garden at the top of the street is a nice little bar. The Mamasan is ok, and not a bad place to hang for a little while. Girls weren't bad, between 6-7. One allowed full sampling of the merchandise before purchase. Didn't go for it, she was nice to talk to but not the hottest. I've used the facilities in the past with a girl I've had before, and last time managed to get 1 pop upstairs for 400+100 bar (last time she insisted on 500+100 bar). You can get numbers here and try to negotiate a good day time session. Worth a look.

Went into Midnight bar for about 5 min. Didn't like the atmosphere and the Mamasan looked scary so I left. Saw 1 girl in there, but she wasn't anything special. Caters more for the Chinese market, never saw upstairs but believe its like a KTV set up where action may not be guaranteed. Heard the girls are drinks vultures so would probably avoid in future.

Pattaya bar didn't have much happening either. Girl latched on to me claiming to be 29, looked closer to 40. Not even remotely doable. Seen one cute one in there, spoke to her for a little bit, might be worth a go.

Moving further down the street, Cheers bar was ok, some cuties in there ranging from a subjective 6. 5-7. 5. Ok place good for a beer or two. Didn't discuss prices but a friend said he got a so so BJ for 300 from a girl. Talked to 1, agreed to buy her a drink, tried to get me to buy her a vod+redbull, told her (nicely) to have a beer so she got a Bacardi Breezer. She 22, cute, ok English and seemed to be ok. Said she's never given head before LOL! Hmm wasn't sure to believe her or not. Also said she's only been in Suzhou for a month, friend told me later she's been on the street for years! Total pro, maybe a bit too much it would seem.

The Moon Bar is definitely 1 of the better bars on the street. The Mamasan is nice and friendly, and has the best looking girls on the street by far IMHO. Some Solid 8's in there. The girls however, are all very pro. They will start coming over and massaging you and asking for a drink, groping you and trying to sit with you. It is actually possible to just go there, have a drink, and listen to the tunes but you need to be firm.

If the girl sits with you for any length of time and you don't go upstairs then she expects or will ask for a tip. She'll ask for a 100. Decide whether you think she earned it: does she allow any touchy touchy or kissy kissy? Did she make you laugh? How long did she sit with you? I've given a 100 sometimes, other times 50, which was accepted all but one time, where one of the girls I took upstairs before, only sat with me for a little bit and lit my cigarette etc. Again, be firm!

Didn't really want her beside me that night, she also roped me into buying her a packet of cigarettes, which I agreed to, and didn't really mind. I got up to leave and I paid my bill, and she demanded a 100, said no, took out 45 and said do you want it or not? She took it and then started pushing me asking for the full 100! I turn my back to her to get my coat and she's still doing it! I had to half turn around and push her back (just casually I didn't lose my cool) to get her to stop. Then just to wind her up, said 'I love you' as I was leaving and she hissed at me.

Took a couple upstairs that I've admired from afar. 500+100 bar. Of course confirm with them what you want first. One was good, great body, legs, and some tits to grab and suck which is rare and made sure I had a good time. Would repeat The other one not so much, great body and nice ass, but rushed BJ, had to insist on her doing it again, after she came up after a minute. She just wanted to lie there but I got her to mount me and didn't last too much longer after that. Wouldn't repeat, especially after the aforementioned debacle.

Never got LT from there before they were asking for 800, which is more than I'm willing to pay, and wanting to leave at 10am blah blah, Again very pro!

There's another place called Le Nest at the bottom end. It can be fun for a few drinks, not much drink pressure, and some of the girls are fun to hang with. But this place is a hostess only bar, they have some KTV rooms upstairs where you might get lucky but it would be expensive to find out.

Finally The Red Lion is a good place to hang out. Girls are friendly, and can be good company. They only ask for drinks, and up to you if you tip them for company or not. Unfortunately they need to look at their recruitment strategies as the standard of ladies is very low. For example, they've just started a new girl, a very BIG girl, can't see who would take her but you never know!

Anyway this thread has been stagnant for a long time maybe this will kick start something.

German Man

02-08-13, 18:31

There are lots of posting concerning Changzhou.P13Hi P13,

Thank you for replying to my post, but I was really looking for info on Changshu, that little town north of Suzhou. I just spent a weekend there but as I felt a little exhausted from last nights sessions with my Shanghai freebie I didn't venture. But soon I'll stay there a little longer so as soon as I have something I will report.

Venne73

02-09-13, 03:19

The BBS mentioned on this map all have LE vehicles parked outside them with MIB inside, blue / red flashlights going.

Sign of a recent crackdown. Did a few FS there at 150RMB including CBJ, but that is all history now. I do not think they will get up and running again.About week ago I walk by this area and business seems to be normal. It was early evening and I count at least 6 BBS's were open already.

Did not go un to check menu, because I was not alone, but I'll go check after Chinese new year when girls are back from home town.

HeavyFuel

02-15-13, 07:39

Hello mates,

Will be in Suzhou Feb 19-21. Anyone up for a beer and babes, may be?

-H

DamnKraut

02-24-13, 16:39

Checked the place out. But nothing but a massage with a HJ to be had.

The girl was young, big breasted by Chinese standards and shy.

Finished me off with the backside of her knee. That was a new for me, but not bad at all.

Showers are quite run down.

Location is on DongHui Lu close to the north-eastern corner of the old moat bordering the city center. It is big and pink. You can't miss it.

Beijing4987

02-25-13, 09:03

DamnKraut.

How much did you pay?

BJ.

The place out. But nothing but a massage with a HJ to be had.

The girl was young, big breasted by Chinese standards and shy.

Finished me off with the backside of her knee. That was a new for me, but not bad at all.

Showers are quite run down.

Location is on DongHui Lu close to the north-eastern corner of the old moat bordering the city center. It is big and pink. You can't miss it.[/QUOTE]

DamnKraut

02-25-13, 15:17

DamnKraut.

How much did you pay?

BJ.I hate to admit it, too much. Standard package incl HE was 260-something, but I tipped generously.

If I fancy that sort of thing again, I would rather go to Baisheng Spa in Yinguo Alley. You find this close to the north-east corner where Renmin Lu intersects with Yinguo Alley. Although this place is a bit seedy, it is not by far as run down as the place on Donghui Lu. You can tell the Baisheng Spa used to be quite an upscale kinda place not so long ago. Very nice interior and elaborate decorations. I had a very nice massage and HJ there. The WG at the time asked if I had a laopo, so I guess she was keen on the sort of thing that Makeoutguy is practicing.

DamnKraut

02-25-13, 15:36

For one BBS area, walk south on Moye Road from the Shiquan intersection and you'll see plenty of young beautiful girls on the east side of Moye Road inside a few joints. There is a market street called Fengmen Cross Street (just off of Moye Road) that has also more BBSes but the girls looked less appealing there. The young girls say they don't do FS and they try to rush you. But I became more familiar with one and she now does outcall at my apartment. She's a nice firm and well proportioned 22 year-old, but asks for double the price because of outcall. When I'm too lazy to go out I call her. It's not a bad experience, definitely not.

Yongdingsi Long (alley) just off of Ganjiangxi lu a bit west of Renmin Lu has has at least eight BBSes in the area. Walk up Yongdingsi Long about 100 m and you'll come across about 4-5 places. Turn left after the second alley (I believe) and you'll come accross another four or so. A mix of young and not so young girls. There are a couple of hotties in the area.Thanks for the tip Baxbore. I checked these places out. Yongdingsi Long is still operational. Moye Lu seems to be completely shut down. The joints in Fengmen Cross street are still open although all of them have signs on the doors that they are hiring "Zhao1Gong1"

Brit Suzhou

02-28-13, 14:49

Hey guys,

I've seen some mention of the 288RMB massage place, Elephant (?) near Xinghai Plaza. Is this place still going? What do you get for 288? Anyone know the opening hours?

I've only been to one BBS in Beijing and a walk-up in Hong Kong so I'm totally new to Suzhou. I live in Orchard Manors. Are there better, cheaper options there for a teacher's salary?

Instrument

03-10-13, 05:45

Hey guys,

Yesterday I was riding on my bicycle through Suzhou. I passed the car park in Moye Lu between Zhuangxianwan Lu and Ganjiang East Lu too.

To me it looked like something is still going on there or started new. I saw some very nice cuties behind the window fronts of 2 or 3 shops / stores.

Does anybody have an idea or information if my assumption is correct?

However, I will try to check it comming up week. Afterwards I will report of my latest experiences from Moye Lu.

Beijing4987

03-11-13, 14:23

Its 268 and a sign inside the room that says "no tipping"

Does anybody obey the No Smoking signs here? All the gals so far have been pro strokers. Some will not allow squeezing the mellons or getting agressive at their crotch. Had #2 twice. She is good, but as Makeout guy says the place can get boring, making one long for the adventuresome gals in Shanghai, who like DATY and will.

Compliment you if they get off.

BJ.

Hey guys,

I've seen some mention of the 288RMB massage place, Elephant (?) near Xinghai Plaza. Is this place still going? What do you get for 288? Anyone know the opening hours?

I've only been to one BBS in Beijing and a walk-up in Hong Kong so I'm totally new to Suzhou. I live in Orchard Manors. Are there better, cheaper options there for a teacher's salary?[/QUOTE]

DamnKraut

03-12-13, 15:52

making one long for the adventuresome gals in Shanghai, who like DATY and will compliment you if they get off.I second that. We do seem to be stuck in a dry spot in these respects here in Suzhou. I just wonder what the really rich Chinese men do.

Brit Suzhou

03-13-13, 16:01

Hey! I finally bit the bullet and gave Elephant a go.

So, I heard it was next door to the Elephant drycleaning place, so up I went. My Chinese is pretty poor so I started asking for the 268 massage.

"Aah! Liangbailiu!" said the lady, pulling out a menu.

Ooh. 8RMB cheaper than I thought! Brilliant!

They took me through to a room and I wasn't impressed at all with the girl, but I was already there so I thought what the heck.

She gave me a very professional massage, surprisingly so. I was there for about an hour, and I wondered why it seemed so mechanical and like she was actually trying to get the knots out of my back and shoulders! I did begin to wonder when there'd be a happy ending to this story.

She indicated she was done, and I was a bit put out. Oh.

I figured, oh well, it was a pretty good massage and my back was hurting anyway, so you live and learn. Obviously I should have been more specific.

I went outside and realised there was ANOTHER massage place, next door and to the right. Oops, obviously I had the wrong place! It all made sense. Idiot!

I had a little laugh to myself, then went upstairs and immediately realised I had the right place. There were girls there that I definitely WOULD pay to rub me around a little.

The girl I got was pretty decent looking, so I was happy.

268RMB got me a much more sensual oil massage, teasing and taking her time, a bit of butthole play, then she flipped me over and finished me off with a pokey bum wank (those unfamiliar with this should google it).

She was a lovely girl too. After flipping me over she chatted to me the whole time in Chinese and was very patient with my laughable attempts at the language.

Showered, dried and out the door, I'd say it was definitely money well spent. I'm not sure if the butt stuff is normal but it was certainly well received, if that's your thing and it's not normally what they do, then she said she was number 10 if you want to have a go.

I appreciate that most of you have probably been here a lot and this is probably all pretty needless to tell you, but I'm pretty inexperienced with this stuff and wanted to share it!

What's the usual rule for touching them and stuff? I asked if it was OK and I think she wanted 100 for something and 200 for something else, but I'm not sure what either of those things were and I was already out of pocket from the vanilla massage I'd got just earlier. Is there any chance of getting a blowjob or maybe more, or specific requests or anything here?

HeavyFuel

03-13-13, 23:47

Last couple times I went there, I covered the "no tipping" sign with a 50 RMB note. Each time, the girl laughed.

Its 268 and a sign inside the room that says "no tipping"[/QUOTE]

Beijing4987

03-14-13, 02:23

Most will resist letting you fondle her jugs. Some will.

Allow if you persist. Last time she told me tits were off limits. The gals I had do a decent enough massage. Some do a more erotic butt and ball rub before the flip and all have been good strokers. #2 I've had last year once and in March once. She has some nice erotic moves and lets me touch her nipples under the bra. Most will let you stroke their ass over the very thick panty hose.

I did not tip the girl who would not let me even touch her tits on the outside of her blouse. Lets face it girl. You are a sex worker. Men like to look and touch. She came back in the room as usual probably expecting a tip.

BJ[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

OpenDoors

03-14-13, 14:44

Anyone know the Suanas on the other side of the lake. There are a ton of gigantic "SPA" places and "Clubs". Off the top of my head is the Yongli Club on Xinghu, which looks like a sauna, and then there is another "International Club" near Casa Zoe in Times square. Without speaking Chinese it seems impossible to figure out these massive places and I'm pretty sure that is where the good girls are. The BBS scene is pretty gross and personally I'd rather spend 600-700 once or twice a month for two hours with a smoking hot 19 year old. I was getting that at the place behind the Landmark for 798 (a little steep) but last time I went they said no sex (instead BJ / Finger / DATY for 568). Not sure what was going on but either way that place is too expensive (girls are very hot though).

In Shanghai I popped in a place, its nicer. 500rmb for 2 hours with lots of interesting activities before FS. You get a fishbowl of attractive girls to choose from. There has GOT to be that place in Suzhou. Please let me know if you have found it.

I'm going to try some of these places on the east side and see what I can find. However I would much rather head towards one that is rumored to be a real FS sauna like in Shanghai.

Wabbittt

03-17-13, 14:50

Hi,

This is my first post here so advanced apologies if I don't get all the etiquette right first time. As I'm new in SZ and didn't know about this forum until recently I have just relied on random massages to see what's on offer, with a predictably patchy strike rate.

My first attempt was the spa associated with the Landmark Skylight Hotel off Xinghan St. In SIP. Unfortunately, I was diverted to the actual spa pool initially (it must have been busy) and assumed that the massage room next to it was the real deal. Big mistake. I requested and got a massage but the person who turned up was a bloke with a scrubbing brush, who took great relish in rubbing my back raw. I've since realized that you have to turn right and go up the stairs to get something more in line with what I was after. However, the girls are not really lookers, at least the ones I have been offered.

I've had more success at the Qing Song massage places (there are several). Generally, the first massage at one of these places is a bit tentative but things liven up on subsequent visits. The girl I had last time was very foxy but pretended to be shocked when I suggested a HE. Her skills with her hands soon established that she was anything but innocent and she finished me off expertly. Well worth a RMB200 tip. Anyhow, I'll continue my random explorations of the scene here and report back. If nothing else, my muscles will be in peak condition after all this research.

Instrument

03-23-13, 08:32

Hello guys,

Sorry for my late report in regard of the Moye Lu in Suzhou which I promised a few weeks before. But I was busy on my business and therefore the delay.

My result is: There is something going on! Depending on the conditions I only visited one shop, asked for 'anmo? ' and I got a very nice naked body to body massage with happy ending for 300Yuan. It was offered to me to get a complete sex massage but this I will try when I'll be there next time again, because this time I wasn't in the mood for that. The shop which I visited was the first in line, coming from the metro. This was a very nice experience and worth to try. All the girls are looking nice and they are very cute.

Don't expect too much only from the massage itself. If you want to get a good massage and a nice happy ending by a pure handjob I recommend the Butterflies. If you want more, look also at the Moye Lu Massage Shops as described before.

Have a nice weekend, a lot of fun and enjoy it.

Instrument

DamnKraut

03-24-13, 08:38

Yongli Club on Xinghu, which looks like a sauna, and then there is another "International Club" near Casa Zoe in Times square.Hello OpenDoors.

I looked for Yongli Club on Xinghu Lu driving in a car, but no luck. Could you elaborate a bit on the positioning, maybe toss in coordinates even?

Cheers,

Kraut

GunsAndRoses

03-25-13, 08:10

This is my first post after my first experience of this type. I was looking for some kind of "special" relaxation and I think I got it. It is a pity that I do not speak Mandarin because it could have help with the high tension I was feeling as I was being serviced. I know it was not a very good massage from the point of view of my back needs but my butt, balls and friend felt all very well pampered and taken care of. Would I repeat it? Well! Yes. But I do not want to stick with the same place all the time. I would like to get to know other places that offer similar or even better services. I went to a parlor near QingSong that is located on a third floor. Kind of tricky to get there, or probably tricky for me to explain how to do it. Anyway, I got a 360 RMB & 110 minute service with a nice girl who would massage almost every part of my body (even the perineum) , which got me pretty excited, but nothing was done to get that ultimate energy relief. Even though she felt my hard on and even chuckled about it she did not do anything but perform a good massage without HE. And of course I was to shy (stupid) to ask anything. Anyway before she left the room she told me she was number 12 and I never saw her again.

I would like some advice as to what is the best thing to do in this cases because unlike the elephant place, that I did not have to say anything because the girl just knows what the service is about, this one was somewhat different. Should I have asked her? Does it cost much more? Should I ask and negotiate that before I even get into that funny blue diapy?

Another question: I am not familiar with so many acronyms and terms used here in this forum. Things like FS, BBS, DATY, finger (I think I may know what this refers to but clarification is welcome). There may be some other terms that if you do not see here and would like to educate me about please add them to the list. Thank you for reading and double thanks for replying.

Jay Bird

03-26-13, 02:48

And of course I was to shy (stupid) to ask anything. Anyway before she left the room she told me she was number 12 and I never saw her again.

I would like some advice as to what is the best thing to do in this cases because unlike the elephant place, that I did not have to say anything because the girl just knows what the service is about, this one was somewhat different. Should I have asked her? Does it cost much more? Should I ask and negotiate that before I even get into that funny blue diapy?I recommend you to just ask. The earlier in the session you ask, the more likely you will be able to get an acceptable price, if you ask well into the massage, with the towel looking like a wigwan tent over your friend the massage lady will (if she's willing to give a HE) of course see your need and price her service accordingly.

I normally indicate what I want when I book the service, thereby avoiding disappointments. I've learned that the Chinese are not shy talking about it, so why should we foreigners be shy asking about it?

Jay Bird

03-26-13, 02:50

GunsAndRoses

03-26-13, 04:22

Thanks JayBird for your piece of advice. I need to learn a lot about all this. It is fun! Is there any specific term they understand about this. Do you guys use English, a Chinese word or simply body language?

By the way does anyone know anything about QingSong? Does something goes on there?

Member #4218

03-26-13, 17:27

I personally find it much more interesting to go to a place if I understand the people there. I have heard the whole story on the girls at the Elephant Place from the quasi-girlfriend I've made of one of them. I won't say what number she is, but she has told me a lot and I've seen a lot and heard a lot over the year+ I've been going there. Here is the back story for any who care to know it. I know these to be facts too.

There are currently 8 girls working at the "Elephant place", there were as many as 12 a few months ago but they have had a few not return from Chinese New Year and a couple more return home seeking rich boyfriends, etc. The girls that work there take each shift for a week at a time starting on Monday. One week they go in at 10:30 AM and then leave at 10:30 PM, the next week they go in at 1 PM and leave at 1 AM, though quite often they end up staying until 2 or even 3-4 AM if they get busy right before closing. The 8 of them all live in a single apartment about 4 blocks from work, I've been in it and see the rooms, they sleep in bunk beds or 2 or sometimes 3 to a queen bed if there are 12 of them. I've been in the room during the day when my girl invited me up and see the place, not great living conditions. They make about 5, 000 RMB per month based on this work schedule. They get a cut of the payment from each massage which ranges from 20 RMB for the cheapest massage up to 60 RMB for the 268 massage. Keep in mind that they are being paid about $10 USD for the 90 minute massage, including HE in that price. You don't have to tip at all, but honestly, $10? Come on, pitch in 50 RMB and let the girl have a little happiness in her life.

The "no tipping" signs got posted about 4 months ago when some Chinese guys complained that the girls were asking for tips for services and the owner (the all smiles lady who is sometimes in the front but often sleeping during the day or out and about doing who knows what) put the signs up. My gal explained that the owner doesn't want the girls holding out for tips for stuff they should be doing with the service, AKA the HE. Now touching the girls or any of that other stuff is more negotiable and a tip would be nice considering what the girl is making. For 50 RMB I'd say you should expect to touch over their clothes and for 100 RMB maybe under the bra or up the skirt a bit. None of them will give you a BJ for sure though, not there in the place.

All of these girls come from other parts of China (Hubei, Harbin, places far afield from remote villages where their parents have no money). To the girl all of them tell their parents they are working in a factory in Suzhou and are making 2, 500 RMB per month doing that. They could go out and get a job in a factory for about that or maybe a bit less tomorrow, but they prefer to do this and get 5, 000 RMB per month + tips. They are all really materialistic and are always buying stuff on TaoBao (clothes mostly) but also like their Iphones or Laptops. Quite a few of them have boyfriends that are older Chinese guys that don't mind them doing this sort of thing and all of them get offered money for sex during the massages regularly, but they will lose their jobs if they are caught doing that so it is pretty much not done there.

I have another girl I've gotten into good graces with at a real massage place, she works about the same hours and earns about 2, 800 RMB per month plus a very small amount in tips, but there is no hanky panky at all at her place.

I now have my girl giving me free sex whenever I want it off-hours, we go to a hotel for 80 RMB for 4 hours and it is pretty good. But the girls are really backward and don't know the first thing about sex really. Just hand jobs and what sex it. My girl thinks oral is really dirty and still thinks me touching her pussy even with clean hands is really bad. She has never given me a BJ and I have hardly ever really touched her clit, and never done oral on her, and yet she would have no problem having totally unprotected sex. She told me this morning that every girl knows you can get a virus very easily if you have sex of any kind during any part of menstration too, totally false but hilarious too. These girls are pretty simple and don't have any real sexual education. All of them want to get married eventually and feel like they are cute enough that they can marry an older Chinese guy with some money pretty easily when the time comes. My girl has even said she wants a baby from me even with no marriage or support just because she things it would be "cute". I am not the most moral guy on the block but I won't do something like that, I know she would regret it and I'd really feel like a scum bag for taking advantage of a gal like that.

Anyway, there is some back story on the Elephant place. The lady that runs it has a boyfriend in the Shanghai Municipal Government so she isn't overly concerned about getting busted by local authorities as she has some connections. Anything else you guys want to know just ask. I could tell you some more details about my girl but it would give away which one she is and we don't want that. I can say I've had #2 and #8 and both of them were good too, but that was before I went "exclusive" with my gal. Since going exclusive I can now get her to strip totally naked during the massage and touch anywhere I want (except the pussy as I mentioned. So not really anywhere I want. More like anywhere BUT where I want.

Oh, and they all do the anal play thing, especially if they see you are having a hard time getting finished, they know it is another level of touch that we usually don't get and they have no problem with giving it.

Its 268 and a sign inside the room that says "no tipping"

Does anybody obey the No Smoking signs here? All the gals so far have been pro strokers. Some will not allow squeezing the mellons or getting agressive at their crotch. Had #2 twice. She is good, but as Makeout guy says the place can get boring, ]

Brit Suzhou

03-27-13, 18:56

Wow, great report. That's really made me think. I've been there twice now and tried to touch, the first asked for money and the second just said 'bu ke yi'.

Both of them were really lovely and were very patient with my shitty attempts at Chinese. I have a girlfriend I only really get to see on weekends but I'm a weak-willed guy and I know I'll be back, though I don't want to make it too regular a thing. Thanks to you I'll certainly be tipping in future.

I've heard of a Dragonfly massage place on Singha (sp?) Plaza. Any idea if this is vanilla or something a bit more. Well, not vanilla?

Oh, and I went at about 8. 30PM on Wednesday and a. Husky-looking fair-haired older Western gentleman went in a few minutes before me. One of you?

Member #4218

03-30-13, 17:59

Husky, fair-haired older gentleman. Could be me, but then again older is all relative. I'm about 40 and hate to be called husky, but I have a few extra pounds on me.

I feel badly about the gal I'm with now, she is really in love and I have told her there is no future in it, but she still persists and I worry she will miss out on some decent Chinese guy because she is wrapped up in me. I'm trying to slowly ween her off of me and I her. It really stinks, you go in just because you're horny and then end up with a relationship where you feel committed on some level or another. Never what you intend but always what seems to happen at least for me.

Well, I went over to the places on Mo Ye Lu near the parking lot as reported, it is between Gan Jiang Lu and Jin Jie Hu the Dao on Mu Ye Lu. If you go at night you can't miss it, there are about 5 massage looking places, two or 3 of which are pretty blatant as they have the girls just sitting in the front room waiting their turn.

Two of them in particular had a bunch of gals dressed in white and I chose the one on the right side (south side) as you look in from the street. I went in and the lady at the desk asked what I wanted, I told her "anmo" and she said 100 RMB for 40 minutes. She tried to give me the next girl but I looked over the 5 gals present and asked for the one I deemed to be the cutest. None of them were ugly but I liked this one best, tall and skinny. She seemed not too happy to have me pick her but she wouldn't tell me why other than to say that they don't get hardly any westerners in there, just Koreans and Chinese mostly.

We went up 2 flights of stairs to a darker room with a dim red light on the inside of the room. There was a bathtub in the room too but I didn't ask what that was about. The girl started rubbing my legs with my clothes on (I refused to turn onto my back as I didn't want to waste the 40 minutes with a cursery back rub). After a few minutes she asked if I wanted "touyou" which is something with oil. I didn't know what it was but she said it was 200 RMB instead of 100 RMB and she asked me to take my clothes off, so I figured it was what I was looking for. She left the room and came back with some small basin of warm water and a wash cloth, she spent some time on my privates and then pulled out the lotion and went to work with her hand. I asked her how much to have her take some clothes off and she said she couldn't do that. She was cute and a new gal for me so I contented myself with having her hug me a bit and wrap my arms around her here and there without any wandering. She did a nice job and finished off pretty easily. Then I got dressed and we talked and she rubbed my back the last 10 minutes or so. At the end I gave her a 100 RMB tip just to see how she took it and she was totally shocked. She wanted to be sure I wasn't trying to pay the bill and then was really happy with it. I should have given her maybe 20 or 50 tops I think. Still, she seemed happy and after I paid the bill downstairs and left I stayed outside for a second to see her reaction. She had a smug little smile on her face and I think she told the other gals about her extravagant tipper.

Anyway, for 200 RMB it is not nearly as intimate feeling as the Elephant place and it is less than half the time, but that can be a good thing if you don't have the time, and the gal (#12) was certainly cute. She said she was 22 and had been in Suzhou for 2 years and didn't like Suzhou or her job, but that it paid well enough she felt she needed to stay.

Not a bad place at all, I know I'll be repeating there in the next week or two, it was a good experience.

By the way just north of there is a nice little streeet market that has nice street food if you are so inclined.

OpenDoors

03-31-13, 05:17

Hello OpenDoors.

I looked for Yongli Club on Xinghu Lu driving in a car, but no luck. Could you elaborate a bit on the positioning, maybe toss in coordinates even?

Cheers,

KrautTurns out both Yongli and the other international place are both KTV's. Yongli is really easy to find but the lights are burnt out in front so that may have been an issue. I went to the massage place in the same complex thinking it would be good. It was OK, I assumed full service because you had a bed and a shower but alas it was only a spirited HJ and DFK / touching etc. Also very expensive so won't be repeating.

On a side note, I went to the International Club near casa zoe, directly accross from Shilla hotel. I asked for massage but they said KTV only. The girls there were absolutely incredible. We are talking 10/10 as good as it gets in China. If I ever have some people to go with or a lot of money to burn I will check it out. I'm sure the takeout price is outrageous but we are talking movie star quality girls here. The rich Chinese guys are incredibly lucky.

GunsAndRoses

04-09-13, 11:57

Jay Bird

04-12-13, 02:09

Good evening everyone. I want to recommend Matsutani which is a normal Chinese massage parlor in Suya square in SIP on a third floor. No real sex kind of service but good massage and nice touch, especially with the kidney meridian treatment. On the other hand, I wanted to know if there is any of you who can tell me about what is the service I can get at Riverdroite Hot Springs behind the Landmark Skylight Hotel. I was there trying to ask for information but my almost nonexistent Chinese and their zero English did not allow for communication, and I felt not comfortable to stay for service if I did not know what to expect. Does anyone know about current service and prices there?

Thank you in advance.Hi Guns,

You can get both legit service and full service there. I've seen people go there with their families so focus might be on the legit part, however they are well known for their extra services as well, and to my knowledge more or less the only place within SIP where you can get that today.

The girls giving full service are like "assembly line workers" they probably serve up to 10 guys a day, so don't expect any passionate experience. You'll be fogotten once payment is done. On the other hand it's clean and well decorated so it's a huge step up from the BBS's down town.

Cost is probably in the area of RMB 800-1. 000.

Use you hands to indicate what you wan, they'll understand.

Let us know what your experience was like.

OpenDoors

04-12-13, 17:42

Hi Guns,

You can get both legit service and full service there. I've seen people go there with their families so focus might be on the legit part, however they are well known for their extra services as well, and to my knowledge more or less the only place within SIP where you can get that today.

The girls giving full service are like "assembly line workers" they probably serve up to 10 guys a day, so don't expect any passionate experience. You'll be fogotten once payment is done. On the other hand it's clean and well decorated so it's a huge step up from the BBS's down town.

Cost is probably in the area of RMB 800-1. 000.

Use you hands to indicate what you wan, they'll understand.

Sdf.

Let us know what your experience was like.Riverdroite is now 880 I believe, something like that. It used to be 798 before CNY but now it is higher (I think BJ only is 598 still). They will not negotiate. That is for FS and I have always had hot girls there. Sometimes I can get a line up of 3 or 4 girls, but other times they just bring me one and usually they are sexy. The last one was an absolute freak in the bed. I go there around once a month because it is so expensive. But personally one time there is better than 4 times at the BBS places.

DassaultGade

04-15-13, 12:57

I am confused by all the Chinese naming, translated into 'English' for all these massage places. If any of you guys have time, it would be so nice if you could make a picture of the entrance / building with the massage place that you write about. And maybe also pinpoint on a map. I often want to try the things out that you write about, but often I often end up at a wrong place. Please guys?

StreetHawk

04-15-13, 14:24

Have confirmation of some limited FL action in Jenny's Li Gong Di. Went there the other week and a few girls came up to talk with me, just normal conversation, no talk about anything else. My instinct however, was telling me it was. Some were cute and young (early-mid 20's) but didn't go for anything as I wasn't really looking for it that night. Then at the end of the night my friend got a girl for 800 all night, says she was good too, did her 3-4 times. I seem to remember something about some girl asking for 2000! Some looked like student types, maybe doing some moonlighting on the side.

So in summary, it's there but it's not in your face, and thus a little patience might just pay off there.

Good luck!

Jay Bird

04-16-13, 07:18

Friends,

I want to the massage place in Mo ye Lu, which have been discussed here lately. To be honest it was a disappointment. When I entered they said massage was RMB 100, when I came to the room the girl told me they had wo other options, RMB 200 and RMB 300. I chose the most expensive one, which was basically a butt massage and topless HJ.

My recommendation is the elephant place before this place.

If anyone else have better experiences, please share, it might just be me which had a unlucky day.

Paste following coordinates into google map, and you find the place. It's 4-5 shops in the backrow of the parking place. I was at the one to the right facing the massage parlours from the parking lot.

31. 308812, 120. 643334

GunsAndRoses

04-23-13, 15:03

Qingsong is a good Chinese place if you are interested in getting a professional massage with great relaxation. The masseuses are not the youngest, neither they are the most beautiful women in China. They dress very professionally and also they give you a great massage. I went there just to give it a try. I did not really understand what they menu meant. I asked for a body massage and pointed the one that said Oil massage. They suggested the kidney meridian massage which was 298 RMB for 90 minutes. I said OK and was lead to a small room, pretty clean and not suggestive of anything out of normal. The woman, a very nice person, was willing to negotiate my poor Mandarin and her poorer English and we managed to have some kind of conversation. She started rubbing my back and butt in a way that I felt I was getting a great medicinal rub. When she was done with my back she focused on my butt giving a lot of thorough attention to it. She included some subtle anal and perineum touch. When she asked me to flip over, I could not hide my hard on. She massaged my chest and nipples with careful attention. Then she sat down on the table and put my legs on her thighs, ripped the little blue shorties and started massaging my balls and shaft like a professional. She gave me a great HJ and when done she just kept going with my legs until the time was done. That was great because I felt real relaxation.

Another story comes from my visit to Riverdroite Hotsprings Club behind Landmark skylight. I liked the place because it is clean and well decorated. I got to the lobby and they point some sofas for me to take of my shoes and get some flip flops. Then they lead me to a locker room where I am supposed to get fully naked while the guys from the reception stand there waiting for me (a little uncomfortable since I am not used to walking around naked in front of strangers). They lead me to the showers and then wait for me to hand me a towel and shirt and shorts. They told me to go upstairs to the second floor. There is a nice woman with a sexy dress who leads me to a room. Nice bed, big tv screen and mirrors all around. Ah, even some tubes on the ceiling (probably for step on massage). A young man enters and asks me to choose a massage from the menu. I do not see any of the prices previously discussed here (560 and 890 or something like that) , which are the ones I am looking for. I ask then for the most expensive one since I think this one can come with some action (390). Then a beautiful thin girl, dressed in black with a mini skirt that looks more like a wide belt, comes to the room with a small plastic box and a small booklet where she writes the price and confirms if that is what I asked for. I nod and then she comes starts. I got an average massage and then a good HJ but that was all. Here I have to say that I am kind of frustrated that I was not able to ask for what I wanted. I would love to touch that beautiful skin, feel the tight butt and tits they have. See their naked bodies but I just could not ask for it upfront. What are the words I have to use inMandarin to get this service. I feel that I am so naive in this respect. I even think that I need to learn from some of you more expert mongers. Maybe if any of you is planning on going there we may meet and I learn how you do it LOL.

Beijing4987

04-23-13, 16:45

Guns.

Next time you go there get her worker number.

"gong ren hao Ma" Is that Qinsong in the SIP? Previous reports said you could get HE from a Qinsong worker only at your hotel and only after previous visits. Let us know the workers who provide HE in the massage parlor.

BJ; 1414271]Qingsong is a good Chinese place if you are interested in getting a professional massage with great relaxation. The masseuses are not the youngest, neither they attention to it. She included some subtle anal and perineum touch. When she asked me to flip over, I could not hide my hard on. She massaged my chest and nipples with careful attention. Then she sat down on the table and put my legs on her thighs, ripped the little blue shorties and started massaging my balls and shaft

Another story comes from my visit to Riverdroite Hotsprings Club behind Landmark skylight. I liked the place because it is clean and well decorated. I got to the lobby and they point some sofas for me to take of my shoes and get some flip flops. Then they lead me to a locker room where I am supposed to get fully naked while the guys from the reception stand there waiting for me (a little uncomfortable since I am not used to walking around naked in front of strangers). They lead me to the showers and then wait for me to hand me a towel and shirt and shorts. They told me to go upstairs to the second floor. There is a nice woman with a sexy dress who leads me to a room. Nice bed, big tv screen and mirrors all around. Ah, even some tubes on the ceiling (probably for step on massage). A young man enters and asks me to choose a massage from the menu. I do not see any of the prices previously discussed here (560 and 890 or something like that) , which are the ones I am looking for. I ask then for the most expensive one since I think this one can come with some action (390). Then a beautiful thin girl, dressed in black with a mini skirt that looks more like a wide belt, comes to the room with a small plastic box and a small booklet where she writes the price and confirms if that is what I asked for. I nod and then she comes starts. I got an average massage and then a good HJ but that was all. Here I have to say that I am kind of frustrated that I was not able to ask for what I wanted. I would love to touch that beautiful skin, feel the tight butt and tits they have. See their naked bodies but I just could not ask for it upfront. What are the words I have to use inMandarin to get this service. I feel that I am so naive in this respect. I even think that I need to learn from some of you more expert mongers. Maybe if any of you is planning on going there we may meet and I learn how you do it LOL.[/QUOTE]

GunsAndRoses

04-24-13, 02:54

Number 22.

Guns.

Next time you go there get her worker number.

"gong ren hao Ma" Is that Qinsong in the SIP? Previous reports said you could get HE from a Qinsong worker only at your hotel and only after previous visits. Let us know the workers who..

OpenDoors

04-25-13, 15:15

When you are in the upstairs room the papasan will come in and ask what you want. Say "make love" they all understand that. They say it like "make lovee". Do that in combination with the universal index finger through the circle of your other hand and he will write down some prices.

This is China bro. You need to say exactly what you want, these guys don't care. The fact that it wasn't offered to you is surprising. They may not have had any of those girls available. That happened to me once. All they had was a 398 girl who I ended up getting a BJ from after a lot of prodding.

The girls there are fantastic and all 3 full service girls have been stunners. However it costs almost 900 so its not a regular occurrence.

Guns.

Next time you go there get her worker number.

"gong ren hao Ma" Is that Qinsong in the SIP? Previous reports said you could get HE from a Qinsong worker only at your hotel and only after previous visits. Let us know the workers who provide HE in the massage parlor.

BJ; 1414271]Qingsong is a good Chinese place if you are interested in getting a professional massage with great relaxation. The masseuses are not the youngest, neither they attention to it. She included some subtle anal and perineum touch. When she asked me to flip over, I could not hide my hard on. She massaged my chest and nipples with careful attention. Then she sat down on the table and put my legs on her thighs, ripped the little blue shorties and started massaging my balls and shaft

Another story comes from my visit to Riverdroite Hotsprings Club behind Landmark skylight. I liked the place because it is clean and well decorated. I got to the lobby and they point some sofas for me to take of my shoes and get some flip flops. Then they lead me to a locker room where I am supposed to get fully naked while the guys from the reception stand there waiting for me (a little uncomfortable since I am not used to walking around naked in front of strangers). They lead me to the showers and then wait for me to hand me a towel and shirt and shorts. They told me to go upstairs to the second floor. There is a nice woman with a sexy dress who leads me to a room. Nice bed, big tv screen and mirrors all around. Ah, even some tubes on the ceiling (probably for step on massage). A young man enters and asks me to choose a massage from the menu. I do not see any of the prices previously discussed here (560 and 890 or something like that) , which are the ones I am looking for. I ask then for the most expensive one since I think this one can come with some action (390). Then a beautiful thin girl, dressed in black with a mini skirt that looks more like a wide belt, comes to the room with a small plastic box and a small booklet where she writes the price and confirms if that is what I asked for. I nod and then she comes starts. I got an average massage and then a good HJ but that was all. Here I have to say that I am kind of frustrated that I was not able to ask for what I wanted. I would love to touch that beautiful skin, feel the tight butt and tits they have. See their naked bodies but I just could not ask for it upfront. What are the words I have to use inMandarin to get this service. I feel that I am so naive in this respect. I even think that I need to learn from some of you more expert mongers. Maybe if any of you is planning on going there we may meet and I learn how you do it LOL.[/QUOTE]

Juanitohot

04-28-13, 01:31

So after reading all the reports in this thread, I decided to go to Mo Ye, where I had already caught sight of very attractive girls wainting in these massage parlours (five, I have counted). I went to the one just next Chinacomm since the girls looked the most beautiful to me, though the rest werent bad at all. I was lucky for the one I liked most got up to receive me (the rest remained seate). I guess it was her turn.

Process similar as already explained here. She quotes 100 yuanes for anmo and then upstairs when I request extras she asked for 300 for a HJ, myself naked and she topless. So there we went. The girl was gorgeous, a solid 8, nice face, strong legs, soft skin and beautiful perky and quite big tits. She started by a very short traditional oil massage, passed to do my ass and balls and then told me to turn facing to her, undid her bra and the best part began. She was quite GFE, despite the language misunderstanding (her english was zero and my cchinese 0. 0001) and allowed me touching, hugging and kissing and she did the same while working on my little friend. All very nice, though really short.

Pros. Gorgeous girl, friendly enough, more intimate than a simple massage.

Cons. Quite short (not really massage beforehand) , little bit expensive for what I am used to, limited experience which left me wanting for a lot more with this girl. May be next time I wiask her to come to my hotel.

Much better, by the way, than my experience in Elephant, where an old and non attractive woman insisted on doing herself the anmo (she begged me because she had to fulfil her quota or else be fired) and it wasnt a really nice experience, though much longer. My fault, for having a soft heart and a hard dick.

German Man

05-19-13, 20:28

OpenDoors

05-23-13, 16:28

Maybe no one responds because you are posting about Changshu in the Suzhou forum.

A while ago I asked whether anyone had experiences in Changshu, yet there were no replies. Changshu doesn't seem to be too popular among expats, in the one month living here I have seen about eight foreigners on the streets.

In case anyone comes here, I'd like to share my first experiences.

Generally all massage shops seem to have happy ending on the menu, and FS is available, too.

I went into two foot massage shops where they had plainclothes girls (they also have the shops with the girls in black miniskirts, haven't tried these so far)

In both shops I asked for a foot massage first. That was done by older rather unattractive ladies, and the massage was pretty good. After the foot massage, in both shops I was asked whether I needed a lady. I asked for the price and they said it was 200. When I agreed, they called in some young girls, in one shop it was a real cutie.

In the other shop, we went to another room equipped with a massage bed (in the first room there was just a chair). I thought it was going to happen here, but behind a curtain there was a door to a room with a small bed. In that room there was a closet whose back wall was really a sliding door leading to yet another room. So maybe if they need to hide the action so well they aren't best friends with LE.

Not sure why but in both shops I had the experience that the initial stroking of little brother was very soft, mayb it's the way local customers like it that way.

All girls are not shaved down south, but since I like it better that way no problem for me.

The cutie was very bubbly and friendly, no real GFE (what do we expect for 200?) but some kissing and fake moans. After the deed, we swapped our phone numbers, and after some days she came to my hotel and I banged her for free, she didn't even ask for a tip. The only things she asked for was whether I would like her, whether I would like kids and whether she could have my baby.

So although she is not bad-looking I won't pursue that relationship for long, if at all.

The massage shops I visited so far are on Dongmen Street and on Qinhu Road north of Xinyan Road.

I also went to a spa on Haiyu South road and paid 338 for a 90-minute kidney massage with happy ending. I didn't ask for FS that time, but since I can get FS for 200 elsewhere maybe I won't bother.

Dan Diggler

05-27-13, 06:12

Hi follow mongering Bro's, DD has landed in SIP for an extended stay. So am looking forward to some exploring during these hot summer nights. Know the Bar scene in town as been in and out of Suzhou a number of times over the last few years.

Got to say that the "Nanlin Hotel" is a great place to enjoy the weekend when you are in Suzhou as its all a hop, skip away.

Anyway, got a great pad with lake views around Times square area and have heard of some bars in SIP but haven't located them as yet, as haven't had time to do a H-club walk thus not privy to the right information. Also have had a juicy long legged Hebi cutie visiting and learning to master the craft of love making before she goes off and gets married. I guess I have a few more weeks of her before she heads out due to the cultural pressures.

Once I am more settled be keen to do a KTV night and share expenses, also as I have been working a couple of the local sites I am sure it won't be long before there is some fun and games being played with the right group of people.

Member #4218

05-28-13, 13:25

I am sure it won't be long before there is some fun and games being played with the right group of people.Care to share any local sites you find appealing? I haven't looked much on the internet here in Suzhou but I'm sure there are some good websites to find some lonely housewives. Any info you don't want to share here feel free to PM. I'll keep it under my hat!

Dan Diggler

06-03-13, 15:33

Care to share any local sites you find appealing? I haven't looked much on the internet here in Suzhou but I'm sure there are some good websites to find some lonely housewives. Any info you don't want to share here feel free to PM. I'll keep it under my hat!I think you would know them already. Try "jiayuan". But you just got to prepared for some qq time.

Then wing them in to Wechat once you have filtered them worthy of a meeting. Problem is you will end up with your hands full of girls that of course are wanting to be married. But then again shifting through there are plenty that just want to have a taste of something exotic before they get married. Honestly, the days of virgin Chinese girls have long gone as far as I can see, its all hell for leather now and same for the men. Especially if they have gone to uni. As a ton get hooked up there with the hope of eternal love but as we know. What happens at school doesn't necessary mean its going to stay happening further down the track when the boy has to take the girl back home. Some last and many don't.

Anyways, had a stressful Friday last week and so was looking for a spa on the way home for a rub down. Not sure if this one has been mentioned as yet. SIP. Close to Zhonghai Hubin No. 1, North Gate 2, Google maps that, you will see the New island coffee shop and its just tucked behind the Bagel shop. Down the lane. Pretty much the same as Guns and Roses report on his Qingsong rub down. Same price points too. 290

Hunky girls but well endowed and had a good attitude about her. Name of the place is Hezudao Health club. Just head up the stairs you will see some card tables and the main oil full body massage is on a A frame card sitting right in front of you. Just point to it and they know. I didn't do any touching as just wanted a good rub down but she uses her legs and pulls you right up onto her as you are on your back and reaches down and spends ample time on the little fella to make sure he is worked up for when she rolls you over. Then once she has you rolled over its back to the same position with her sitting over the little fella and giving him a nice gentle workout until you can take it anymore and tell her its time to give hima run for his money. .

Also I went for a walk tonight and saw some bars behind the Suzhou Culture and Arts Centre down on the lake are they worth having a beer or two in or over priced due to the location?

Blubber80

06-03-13, 23:50

First of all: Thanks for all the information you guys share over here. I however miss (or overlooked?) a recommendation or just a mentioning of pick-up bars like the Manhattan in Nan Yang Lu, Shanghai. I've been there a few times during the last years and have met and enjoyed some of the wonders of the world (some PRC, but mostly SEA).

Soon I will go to Suzhou for the first time and hopefully will find similar place (s) over there too. I of course have read about the bars on Shi Quan Jie and the rooms they have "upstairs". I however prefer a relaxed LT at my hotel. An outcall-agency is not an option: You can only check-out the girl they send. Even worse: She is chosen by someone else.

So, do you have a hint for me? PM would be great too!

PleaseBeGentle

06-05-13, 15:31

Wabbittt

06-14-13, 17:41

Has anyone been to the Crystal Romance Club in SND on BinHe Lu & YuShan Lu? Wondering if it's a sauna or KTV and if it's worthwhile. I'm hoping for higher quality than BBS but more relaxing than the bars.I've not yet visited but this place is listed by at least one useful site as a 'bath club'. However, it looks quite standard. To quote: 'it's worth noting that there is no FJ there. Only HJ service'.

PleaseBeGentle

06-21-13, 18:46

Confirmed. No full service. Just teasing massages and some prostate work. Never got anything beyond that. Pass.

I've not yet visited but this place is listed by at least one useful site as a 'bath club'. However, it looks quite standard. To quote: 'it's worth noting that there is no FJ there. Only HJ service'.

Wabbittt

06-30-13, 18:42

It occurs to me that my last post might be interpreted as indicating that I view HJs as inferior to FS so I would like to put the record straight. Done well, I think a HJ requires more skill than FS and Suzhou has more than its fair share of expert practitioners.

The initial teasing and sense of anticipation when you're lying on your front really heightens the pleasure. Even after the flip I love the way an expert will slowly work her way to my shaft before lightly moving her hands up and down in anticipation of what's to come. Subsequent hand-over-hand stroking really does it for me and Number 7 at 'the Elephant' is particularly good in this respect. She's also adept at the 'reverse sausage wrap' whereby she stands over you and holds your precious one with her thumb towards the base of the shaft instead of the tip while giving the A-OK with her other hand. This gives a totally different feeling to the usual grip. I'm also a big fan of the one-hand drift to the butt and subsequent gentle caressing of my ass with her finger while the HJ continues. Finally, I appreciate it when girls don't let go too soon after I've come. I guess it's a case of 'different strokes for different folks' but on balance most of the Chinese girls I have had the pleasure to encounter have been pretty adept at HJs.

Jay Bird

07-01-13, 04:05

I was over at the Japanese Street in SND again. There are several options availabe both in this street and the surroundings.

My favuorite is a small massage shop just at the beginning of the street. The entrance is all colored light blue, reception is on second floor. I must say that the service I get here is much beter compared to the Elephant place. For RMB 300 you get a HJ, for RMB 400 you get a topless HJ and possibility of touching whatever you like and for RMB 500 you will be blowed, both fire & ice and other games.

Girls are very polite and accomodating, much more so than at the Elephant place. This is by far the best place I know of in Sz. Of course you can get FS for 150 at any BBS around, but this is still a much better, un-rushed service.

Most visitors are Japanese.

Masslin

07-01-13, 09:23

Member #4218

07-01-13, 18:36

Just to follow up on even more detail on the "Elephant Place", there are 9 girls there now and some of the old ones have moved on. I have one of the girls as my "girlfriend" now and I can get full service from her whenever I want, which is several times per week in the morning before she has work, or late after work, though this is less common for me. I have only been to the massage place maybe 2-3 times in the last 6 months because I can get it for free from my lady and it is crazy sex too.

I think giving hand jobs all day long really messes with their heads, she really likes sex outside and in the car just for fun. She also told me some more background on the ladies there, most of them are married with kids and are older than they say. After almost 2 years mine finally told me she is really in her early 30s and has 2 kids. She looks younger and I'm not complaining, but she says they all lie about their age and they almost all have boyfriends and have sex regularly because this sort of work awakens their sexual appetites.

If you have some Chinese and aren't bad looking you can probably turn one of these gals to full service, at least it worked for me. I really do feel for the girl and we have a lot of fun and it doesn't cost me much now that we are regular. I take her places and she and I have some amazing sex. Her fantasy is to have her good friend make out with me in front of her and then give her oral sex while her friend rides me, hopefully that will happen next week, all for free. Crazy girls!

Jay Bird

07-05-13, 01:43

I'm sorry Mate, I don't recall the name. I guess it wan't area of focus at my visit.

Hi Jay Bird:

Can you give me the name of this small massage shop?

Wabbittt

07-05-13, 19:06

I'm sorry Mate, I don't recall the name. I guess it wan't area of focus at my visit.Was it one of these places? Both are towards the northern end of Huahai St, shortly before it connects to Shishan Road.

Although both have entrances colored blue, I'm guessing the place you went to is the one helpfully indicated with a 'Massage' sign above the door, even if the entrance is a dark shade of blue (shown in the photo labelled Huahai St_2).

Purely in the interests of research for ISG I checked out the latter (always willing to a hit for the team!). Plenty of girls about but none of the ones I saw were real lookers. The one that did my massage was okay, maybe a 6 but with a good body wrapped in a little black dress. However, this was more than compensated for when she got down to the massage. I requested the 'Special' at RMB300 and it didn't disappoint. Refreshingly, she used baby powder rather than oil for the actual massage which, combines with her feather-light touch, was unusually sensual. Halfway through she did an upsell. Another RMB100 had her topless with no holds barred. The oil came just at the end when she focused her attention on the little fella. Her expert touch and the fact that she was rubbing her groin up against me in a very slinky way soon finished me off. All in all, a good experience.

I liked the facilities in this place. It's clean and has good showers and towels. Altogether it has much higher standards than 'the Elephant'. They seems to have workmen in at the moment who are creating more massage rooms so there should be plenty of choice in the future. I'm hopeful that further sessions will uncover better looking girls although to be honest the one I had was not bad.

One final thought, why hasn't the Japanese Bar Street featured in this forum previously? It seems to me that there's plenty going on here.

Masslin

07-09-13, 02:15

Was it one of these places? Both are towards the northern end of Huahai St, shortly before it connects to Shishan Road.

Although both have entrances colored blue, I'm guessing the place you went to is the one helpfully indicated with a 'Massage' sign above the door, even if the entrance is a dark shade of blue (shown in the photo labelled Huahai St_2).

Purely in the interests of research for ISG I checked out the latter (always willing to a hit for the team!). Plenty of girls about but none of the ones I saw were real lookers. The one that did my massage was okay, maybe a 6 but with a good body wrapped in a little black dress. However, this was more than compensated for when she got down to the massage. I requested the 'Special' at RMB300 and it didn't disappoint. Refreshingly, she used baby powder rather than oil for the actual massage which, combines with her feather-light touch, was unusually sensual. Halfway through she did an upsell. Another RMB100 had her topless with no holds barred. The oil came just at the end when she focused her attention on the little fella. Her expert touch and the fact that she was rubbing her groin up against me in a very slinky way soon finished me off. All in all, a good experience.

I liked the facilities in this place. It's clean and has good showers and towels. Altogether it has much higher standards than 'the Elephant'. They seems to have workmen in at the moment who are creating more massage rooms so there should be plenty of choice in the future. I'm hopeful that further sessions will uncover better looking girls although to be honest the one I had was not bad.

One final thought, why hasn't the Japanese Bar Street featured in this forum previously? It seems to me that there's plenty going on here.Thanks for your report, the massage place called Hai Feng Massage SPA.

Address:Block C, No. 1 Building, Business street, Huaihai Road, Huqiu District.

I find you mentioned 'the Elephant', is it the name of the massage place?

Masslin

07-09-13, 06:33

Wabbittt

07-10-13, 17:34

I found many bros mentioned the elephant massage palror in Su Xiu Lu. I'm curious about this address. It is next door to the Elephant drycleaning place.

I upload a pic, any bro can confirm thie place?Thanks for confirming the massage place in Japanese St (Huaihai Road).

Regarding the Elephant place, the pic you uploaded isn't very clear but the address has been given before:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1648-East-China-Suzhou&p=1202973&highlight=elephant#post1202973

If it helps, there are three 'spas' on this parade and it's the one in the middle.

Brit Suzhou

07-10-13, 20:35

OK, cards on the table. If I have an hour to kill in the SIP, is it possible for me to get a blowjob for 400RMB or less?

Masslin

07-11-13, 03:09

Thanks for confirming the massage place in Japanese St (Huaihai Road).

Regarding the Elephant place, the pic you uploaded isn't very clear but the address has been given before:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1648-East-China-Suzhou&p=1202973&highlight=elephant#post1202973

If it helps, there are three 'spas' on this parade and it's the one in the middle.Thank you for your answers, can you confirm this place is just on the first floor or on the second floor?

Wabbittt

07-13-13, 18:41

Thank you for your answers, can you confirm this place is just on the first floor or on the second floor?I think this has all been described previously, you can find details here:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1648-East-China-Suzhou&p=1302044&highlight=elephant#post1302044

Have fun!

Ocean25

07-15-13, 16:21

Hey Guys,

Does anyone know of good hotels with saunas in them in Suzhou? Will be making a trip later in the month. Thanks! Do let me know if you come to Shanghai.

Member #4218

07-22-13, 10:28

I can confirm the address and pictures below as the right place. You can find a googlemaps version of where it is located at:

http://goo.gl/maps/WNoOi

Also if you want any more info / background I know a bunch of it, having been a regular to this place for almost 2 years now. The only massage with a happy ending is the 268 RMB massage and it will come standard with no tip given or even expected. There are 9 girls there and they have a rotating system. 4-5 of them come in at 10 AM while the rest of them come in about 12 PM. The first 4-5 leave work at 10:30 PM while the later shift ends at 1 AM. They rotate every week beginning on Monday's so if your desired gal is there after 10:30 pm one night then they will NOT be there after 10:30 PM the same day the following week. The girls make 90 RMB of the 268 for each massage they give and the laoban gets the rest. In exchange the girls get free room and board (board being two very bad meals per day provided at noon and 5 PM at the massage place). You'll hear / see them eating all together at those times around that little table and madly slurping down 3 very watered down veggie dishes and a metric ton of white rice. They don't get enough food to live on and most of them buy another meal after work or something to keep themselves fed.

Anyway, they rotate through so unless you ask for a specific gal you will just get the next one in line. On average they give just 1-2 massages per day for under 200 RMB per day in "pay", meaning that with 9 of them there they pretty much split the pay evenly unless one of them is "requested" more than the others. If there were only 6-7 of them there then they would split a larger overall pot, so last year when they had only 6 room instead of 9 rooms the 6-7 girls made as much as 5,000 RMB per month, while lately they only make about 3,000 RMB per month.

The boss was getting complaints from Chinese guys saying the girls were hitting them up for tips to allow them to feel them up, so the boss put the signed up in each room discouraging tipping, though of course the girls really like tips and are very grateful any time you tip. Since it takes them 90 minutes to earn the 90 RMB and they basically sit around all day waiting for those 1-2 massages each day of their 12 hour shift, you can imagine even 20-50 RMB as a tip is very appreciated and thoughtful.

One other quick insight, if you are into it you can totally get 2 girls to go in with you, just pay for two and they will send two into the room and they will get you off together with both of them rubbing your cock at the same time. Don't expect them to make out or anything but it is pretty sweet to have 2 gals rubbing your cock for 90 minutes for less than $100 USD, seriously that is crazy good and they don't mind doing it. Give it a try if you haven't, you owe it to yourself.

My gal was saying that there is a pecking order with the girls, the most popular then can get 1-2 extra massages per day because she is requested more and doesn't lose her place in line for it, thus encouraging the girls to give out phone #s and QQ info to "flirt" with guys to tempt them to become regulars, which boosts that specific girls salary for the month. The top girl right now is the boss ladies niece, she is the very average looking one with glasses but she has the biggest rack so the Chinese guys really request her a lot, though I think she is pretty stkinkin' plain myself. You can have a good service from #8 and also #2 and #5, all 3 of them know their stuff and are cute and genuinely sweet. My lady says their biggest complaint about their job isn't the hours or the pay, but the quality of the clients. Only 2 of the rooms have showers and they ladies there are of the opinion that most foreigneers stink pretty badly and that a lot of them are not big practicers of regular hygiene. They don't like the grungy. 3-day beard look and really appreciate a guy who makes an effort to look and smell clean when they come in.

If you want good service there be polite and clean yourself up before you come in. If you don't like the 90 minute massage but are just looking to "get off" then you can certainly tell the girls, they don't really want to spend 90 minutes rubbing you around if you are happy to have them give you 30 minutes of rub and tug instead. You can be direct with them and just use hand gestures if needed, they won't be offended and probably will appreciate the directness. Oh and don't come wasted, if you have been drinking you will not enjoy it as much and you will be significantly more difficult to get off.

My number one piece of advice though is to find one you like and build some trust with her, become a regular and start to learn some Chinese with them. Tip the gal 50-100 RMB if you can afford it, the work they do is tough and they really very little money and most of them are supporting kids back home on the cash. My gal is trapped there because her dead-beat husband hits her when they are together and he can only spare about 1,000 RMB per month from his job to send home to their 2 kids. My lady sends 90% of her money home to her 2 kids to support them and tries to ignore her terrible husband as much as possible. She was married at 19 by lying about her and her husbands age at the insistence of their parents, they had 2 kids while he beat on her quite regularly and she has had a tough, tough life. She only wants to provide for her family and is doing the only job she can earn any money on.

Over the course of the last 2 years I've learned pretty decent Chinese. 75% of which is from talking to my lady a couple of times a week in our massages at first and then one-on-one outside of work after that. For a teacher to teach me this much would have been almost as expensive, and no sex. So I feel I'm better off by far for the experience.

Oh and the gals only get 20 RMB on the lowest massage, they really hate when people come asking for those and there is never a happy ending included.

Wabbittt

08-02-13, 18:08

I've recently re-visited the Hai Feng Massage place in Japanese St. Previously mentioned by Jay Bird. It didn't disappoint.

This time, I was assigned a different girl. Number 18 (with a name that sounds like Xiaozhou). Who comes from Guangdong. She was significantly older than the previous girl but her English was better and, while she is not conventionally pretty, she has incredible expertise; I had plenty of memorable new experiences. First off was an okayish massage but this was soon followed by a cat bath. This was new to me but I get the impression this girl was exceptional. She even probed my ears with her tongue, which for me was strangely erotic. She then switched to an ice routine. This consisted of her gripping a rubber covered ice cube between her teeth and then rubbing me with it in all the right places. Again, this was a novel experience but I get the impression that she did not stint. Indeed, she stopped half way through to change ice cubes so that I continued to get the full icy treatment. It was then oil time, with the focus entirely on my todger. This started off as a fairly standard 'rub and tug' session but then, to my astonishment, she moved to my side and stretched her leg across me and bent it so that my dick was trapped behind her knee. She then very skilfully started working on me with a combination of leg work and hand manipulation. It sounds kind of clumsy but the sensation is amazing. Highly recommended. I didn't last long after that and, all in all, this was well worth RMB 400 in my opinion. Afterwards, she amused me by putting on my sunglasses and imitating a well-known Chinese singer. I reckon she also has potential in this area if she tires of her current career.

Wabbittt

08-02-13, 18:18

On my last trip to this place, I was hooked up with Wen Wen (a. K. A. Number 6). She looks good, I rate her a 6-7 overall, but in all honesty I can't recommend her. Maybe I was spoiled after my last experience (see previous report) but Wen Wen's approach was pretty perfunctory and she lacks the skills of the other two girls that I have encountered in this place. YMMV.

Dan Diggler

08-30-13, 06:20

Well its that time of year where the weather can let you breath outside again, what a rugged few months la. Too bloody hot for my liking. Lucky there has been a steady stream of trips come my way so I was able to balance it somewhat.

Anyway, since its gone quiet on this thread I thought I would pop up a report. I have dusted of the trusty bike and decided to give it a run the other night. I had already laid a plan of sites from all the other information you guys have let. But as I am over in SIP I thought I might try a green fields endeavor. So I headed out under the Loujiang Ave freeway, using the bike track that is there and ventured in to the Local area of that side of the waterway that divides it from SIP.

First off, I must have hit knock off time as there where hundreds of cute girls just leaving work and walking around the roads of Yuling Road and Zhihe west Road. Which is where the underpass takes you. Looks like a couple of big factories and or uni there, but I just parked the bike and enjoyed the eye candy as it walked by. Also did a few scans with Wechat to see what popped up. Added a few for later contact. Then it was on the hunt again, came across a big shopping area full of KTV's, that all look promising, but need someone to hit them with as I haven't got the skill to talk myself in to them as yet. Also its better to hit those with 2 or 3 of you, so if anyone is keen pop me a PM. They are all around the Hotel called 'Days hotel' on 'Yujiong Road' As I was on the motorbike and this was more a scouting mission, after about ½ hour of having a look around came across the familiar site of the billboard offering massage. So up the stairs I go.

Location – if you came up 'Yujiong Road' like I did, you would turn left and head down 'Litang Road' look for 'Jinhan leisure bathing spot' on G-Maps (another sport to check out sometime). You will see the waterway so about 10-20m across the little bridge you will see a China telcom shop and next to that a lot of fork lifts parked up. Then you should be able to see the signs as per the photo attached. Its not the best little spot in town in fact it's a little grubby in the shower area. But the service guy is chirpy and they know what I was in there for. I went for the full massage which was 188. And told him to send me in a 'Piàoliang' and got what I ordered. She was all smiles and warm eyes. Came in the bottle of oil and we had a great hour of chit chat and the usual playing around until its time to work the little fella over. She was telling me few Italians use the place, so there must be some Italian factories around the area. But she knew how to massage the little fella and bring him home. The good thing was her clothing allowed for plenty of touching, not those tight fitting pants they wear. So all in all a nice evenings motorbike ride.

I have the feeling that there is going to be other action around that area so need to head over there during the early evening when there is light as it was about 7. 30 by the time I got there this week so I didn't get time to really get a good look around, but that hub of KTV's and hotels looks like there is going to be some more fun to be found.

Location. 5 been in worst.

Service. 7

ShHappyMassage

10-08-13, 09:38

Masslin, can you tell us more about the girls listed on your site? None of them for Suzhou have any reviews and of course the pictures are all fake but where do you collect them from and what can you tell us about their services?Hi bro,

As I know all the pics of gals are supplied by the massage agencies and guys collected and adapted these info and then exhibited on Happy Massage. BTW, Happy Massage recently is developing a 'photo verification' function, it may be able to identify whether the photos of the massage girl are real or unreal.

Faguoren

10-14-13, 10:03

Hi bro,

I have recently been to Suzhou to the "Platinum Hanjue Hotel"

http://goo.gl/maps/02HfG

This is a huge place (they say they have 300 rooms). This hotel is very cheap (a bit more than 300 RMB for the cheapest rooms) and the rooms are very good (also none of them are non-smoking room so you can expect them to smell third hand smoke). The all second floor of the hotel is a KTV and when crossing the lobby in the evening, it looks like candy land with all the KTV girls wondering around. You also see them a lot in the lifts going up down.

The hotel has none of the facility you would expect from a "normal" 5 stars (no gym, no swimming pool, no bar.). Once in the room, beside the phone on the bed table, you will find a small card giving the "health care and massage center" phone number. This massage center is not advertised anywhere else in the hotel nore on its website. It is a in-room delivery service, provided by some of the KTV girls. When you call, they say the massage is 298 RMB.

Once the girl is in the room (show up within 10 minutes, nice and short dress) and the massage has started for a while, she will start the chat to upsale to full service (no BJ was offered to me, direct from massage to FS).

I accepted 1000 RMB including massage + 1 pop, I was too tired to negociate more and I sensed I was already very close to the rock bottom price (the girl started her proposal at 2000 RMB on the top of the massage price, WTF!). Total damage 1000 RMB (I was sleeping there anyway so I do not count the hotel price).

Girl: Xiao Mi (?)

Age: around 25.

Body: 6. 5 / face : 7 / attitude 8, very girl friendly.

Also, I took the first girl they sent, I could have make her go and get another one as there are real stunners in the place.

All in all a good experience I would repeat if I go there again.

Thresher

10-24-13, 22:59

Hey all,

I am coming to Suzhou for a few weeks starting 10/31.

Looking for bros to go out on the hunt with and show me the best places.

Hoping to hook up with someone like Vennere73.

I don't want to mess up the expat playground, just have some fun in it.

PM me and we can get in touch.

HeavyFuel

10-28-13, 10:12

Hello Hunters.

Will be in Suzhou Tue & Wed night in the SIP. Happy to join fellow hunters / players for a drink or more. PM me for contact.

-HF

Member #4218

10-31-13, 17:23

Here are some better pics of the Elephant place.

Beijing4987

11-01-13, 01:09

The name of this MP is Butterfly. I think the name is appropriate in that one must be a butterfly here and taste the different nectar in order to find the sweetest. Heavy Fuel and I both had the same girl one night, with entirely different reactions. Maybe it's time to question the provider about how much groping is allowed. So far the massage skills vary a lot, but the actual finish stroking is done well. I like lots of access to their hidden charms. They pretend to resist. After multiple visits there may be more access. For me more access at first will insure a repeat. Also more access will insure an appropriate tip. Since this place is popular maybe discussing this with our providers is in order. We know that enough Chinese customers did not like being hounded for tips. So the management cracked down and placed the No Tip sign.

My two cents.

BJ

JoeCool69

11-05-13, 16:00

Few days ago I tried out the Rive Droite Spa, at the Landmark Skylight Pearl Hotel in Xinghan Street, across the canal from Casa Zoe. Was there last year and no full service. This time when going to the massage and I ask for Nuede zuo ai to my surprise the guy said yes, no problem. Showed up the first girl but not a stunner. Then came another two, one was cute (No 67) so I took her. Really friendly and giving her best to please. Kissing cat bath all over the body going down and lick everything clean in no hurry. The she flips one leg over me and I have a shaved pussy in a close up right in front of me. We don't get this too often here. Eventually we engage in a heavy 69 until she cow girl me to finish. Pretty significant damage though. 905 RMB. VIP card gives you 20% discount but still a lot. But was a nice experience.

MotoAndy

11-27-13, 19:35

Masslin

11-28-13, 09:02

Hello German Man,

I will be in Changshu for a couple of weeks. What would would you recommend in the area of the Crowne Plaza hotel.

Thanks,

MotoAndyHi bro,

I'd like to recommend the The Oriental Venice on the Haiyu North Road. The girls offers massage with extras like HJ, BJ, anal rimming, BL etc. (except ML). Address:55 Haiyu North Road, Changshu City.

Thanks,

Happy Hunting!

MotoAndy

11-28-13, 20:22

Hi bro,

I'd like to recommend the The Oriental Venice on the Haiyu North Road. The girls offers massage with extras like HJ, BJ, anal rimming, BL etc. (except ML). Address:55 Haiyu North Road, Changshu City.

Thanks,

Happy Hunting!Hello Masslin,

Thanks for the recommendation. I will try it on Saturday when I got to Changshu. Guess its perfect for relaxing after the flight.

Will report after the visit.

MotoAndy

Beijing4987

11-28-13, 21:44

Do they come to your room or is there a mp in house. Pricing?

BJ.

I bro,

I'd like to recommend the The Oriental Venice on the Haiyu North Road. The girls offers massage with extras like HJ, BJ, anal rimming, BL etc. (except ML). Address:55 Haiyu North Road, Changshu City.

Thanks,

Happy Hunting![/QUOTE]

MotoAndy

12-01-13, 15:58

Hi bro,

I'd like to recommend the The Oriental Venice on the Haiyu North Road. The girls offers massage with extras like HJ, BJ, anal rimming, BL etc. (except ML). Address:55 Haiyu North Road, Changshu City.

Thanks,

Happy Hunting!Hi Masslin,

I tried to get there but did not find the place. Are you sure it is still existing?

On my way back I went to Victorias Spa Club. Got a body massage for 280 RMB but no extras at all. The place seems to be very serious.

Next days I will try somethings else.

MotoAndy

Wabbittt

12-08-13, 18:16

Sometimes it's worth recording negative results, if only to save others the trouble of visiting certain establishments. With this in mind, here's a list of places that are not worth bothering about at present in Suzhou:

Baishen Spa (junction of Renmin road and Yinguo alley). This is normally a reliable place but it seems that there is currently a government clamp-down so nothing more than a legit massage was on offer when I visited recently.

Mingshihui Spa (201, Tongjin South Road, Huqiu District). This looked promising according to Masslin's Suzhou Happy Massage website but alas it's closed down. The whole area is in chaos due to the construction of Line 2 of the Suzhou metro system so it's possible it might re-open, but I doubt it.

Daomadan Foot Wash (Suya Road, Wuzhong District). This is as 'dry' as it gets. They give a competent massage but that's all you can expect. They even insist that you keep your shirt on for the massage.

Crystal Romance Club (Binhe Road, SND). This place is costly, eccentric and frustrating in equal measure. They offer the worst aspects of a GFE without any of the advantages – imagine a first date that fails to get to 'first post'. The girls I had for my two massage sessions here were stunning (I would rate their looks at around 8) and wore foxy little uniforms. However, their massages were probably the most peculiar I have experienced in China. There was some body contact but in a rather anodyne way. For example, they seemed to think that placing themselves at right angles to you and rolling themselves over your (fully clothed) body was stimulating – maybe it is for others but it did nothing for me. Both girls (Jiaojing #35 and Jiangmin #12) went through the same routine so I presume that this is standard protocol. I think they need to get a better mamasan who knows what turns a man on and can convey this information to their girls. Very frustratingly, HEs were not offered despite the allegedly sexy moves. Both girls tried to rub my todger through the cloth of my spa shorts – apart from being not particularly enjoyable this risked making a mess so I declined.

In short, Suzhou seems to be suffering a bit of a 'dought' at present – there are some oases but let's hope that the rains come soon.

Member #4218

12-12-13, 06:13

Just to comment on the below, DaoMaDan is indeed very dry, but it can be good too. I still have a lady who is very kind and likes foreigners, she is #6 and not bad compared to some of the rest. She is a nice gal and gives a nice massage too. We struck up a romance after 2-3 sessions where I came a few times per week to get her 90 minute massage. After the 3rd time she allowed me to grope her from the "blind side" of the door, I would rub her thigh a bit and then it sort of progressed. Where she really liked it was when she did the head rub the last 10-15 minutes, I would look into her eyes and tell her she was pretty, she was attracted too apparently because she let me rub her pussy after about the 5th time there. It was through her clothes but she actually orgasmed right there while grabbing my butt during the massage. After that I invited her to come to Shenzhen with me and we had great sex several times in the hotel. Since then she would let me pick her up at her house about 8 AM for a few hours of fun in a hotel whenever I wanted. I got a little tired of her and have broken it off, but she really is a nice lady and very giving. Never really paid her anything, just a freebie. You have to have some Chinese though as she speaks no English. Get the gal's QQ and use a translator app like Google Translate to talk them up on QQ for a while and it can pay off.

Also another place to consider is located at 31. 289579, 120. 653218 in googlemaps, just paste that in and it will come up. It is right of of DongHuan Lu by the Carrefour down on YangZhiTang Lu. As you walk away from DongHuan Lu west on the north side of the street you will see a bunch of ebike repair and metal working shops, just past those on the right is a small shop with a mamasan in the window and a TV on in the front room. You will sometimes find 3-4 girls sitting in there. I went in and the next gal in the pecking order offered me 200 RMB for 30 minutes or 300 RMB for one hour "massage". One of the gals was a real cute looker but they said she had to leave and couldn't see me right then. One of the others looked better and I choose her instead. We went through a few doors and into a beat up bedroom that wasn't terrible, she immediately dropped her pants and asked me to get naked. She started rubbing my cock and letting me play with her large tits, she kept her shirt on but pulled it and her bra up so I could get at them. After about 5 minutes I was good to go, she put the cover on and laid back, ready to go. I took my time and did a couple of positions which she took in stride, though she was a bit heavy for China and didn't want to get on top much. After about 15 minutes I had had enough and got into missionary and finished up. Straight sex for 200 RMB isn't bad and it wasn't super clean and not a GFE at all, but I'm not sure I wanted to kiss her and would never chance anything without a cover there.

Anyway she was obviously wearing a wig too and when I accidentally disrupted it off her head she ended up holding it on with one hand while I rode her, which was pathetic, hilarious and distracting all at once, but not enough to spoil the fun. I didn't bother to tip and she didn't ask. She said she had been in Suzhou 5 years working there, I felt bad for her more than anything. Sometimes this hobby is pretty brutal when you get into the nuts and bolts like that.

There may be other places like this in the area as I went about 4 PM and there were other shops closed up, usually these sorts of places come in clusters so I wouldn't be surprised if there were more options as it got later over there, had that vib about it.

Hope you find this useful!

One other comment, I found a "cute" gal on WeChat a couple of weeks ago and have seen her a few times, not a professional but just a regular gal working at a restaurant over in LiGongDi. She is maybe a 6 is all but really kind and likes to practice her English. I pick her up in the car, we talk for a few minutes and then she jumps me and makes out like she has never felt any love in her life at all. She wants to have full on sex so I'll probably do that in the next week or two.

The number one thing you can do for your prospects here is learn Chinese, just having marginal speaking ability really opens up doors and having WeChat / QQ on my phone and a good translator on there makes finding willing, and mostly free girls a snap.

Beijing4987

12-12-13, 22:02

MOG.

Did I ever give you my cell # Send me a text if you have it. Good reports. Where is DaoMaDan?

BJ.

Ust to comment on the below, DaoMaDan is indeed very dry, but it can be good too. I still have a lady who is very kind and likes foreigners, she is #6 and not bad compared to some of the rest. She is a nice gal and gives a nice massage too. We struck up a romance after 2-3 sessions where I came a few times per week to get her 90 minute massage. After the 3rd time she allowed me to grope her from the "blind side" of the door, I would rub her thigh a bit and then it sort of progressed. Where she really liked it was when she did the head rub the last 10-15 minutes, I would look into her eyes and tell her she was pretty, she was attracted too apparently because she let me rub her pussy after about the 5th time there. It was through her clothes but she actually orgasmed right there while grabbing my butt during the massage. After that I invited her to come to Shenzhen with me and we had great sex several times in the hotel. Since then she would let me pick her up at her house about 8 AM for a few hours of fun in a hotel whenever I wanted. I got a little tired of her and have broken it off, but she really is a nice lady and very giving. Never really paid her anything, just a freebie. You have to have some Chinese though as she speaks no English. Get the gal's QQ and use a translator app like Google Translate to talk them up on QQ for a while and it can pay off.

Also another place to consider is located at 31. 289579, 120. 653218 in googlemaps, just paste that in and it will come up. It is right of of DongHuan Lu by the Carrefour down on YangZhiTang Lu. As you walk away from DongHuan Lu west on the north side of the street you will see a bunch of ebike repair and metal working shops, just past those on the right is a small shop with a mamasan in the window and a TV on in the front room. You will sometimes find 3-4 girls sitting in there. I went in and the next gal in the pecking order offered me 200 RMB for 30 minutes or 300 RMB for one hour "massage". One of the gals was a real cute looker but they said she had to leave and couldn't see me right then. One of the others looked better and I choose her instead. We went through a few doors and into a beat up bedroom that wasn't terrible, she immediately dropped her pants and asked me to get naked. She started rubbing my cock and letting me play with her large tits, she kept her shirt on but pulled it and her bra up so I could get at them. After about 5 minutes I was good to go, she put the cover on and laid back, ready to go. I took my time and did a couple of positions which she took in stride, though she was a bit heavy for China and didn't want to get on top much. After about 15 minutes I had had enough and got into missionary and finished up. Straight sex for 200 RMB isn't bad and it wasn't super clean and not a GFE at all, but I'm not sure I wanted to kiss her and would never chance anything without a cover there.

Anyway she was obviously wearing a wig too and when I accidentally disrupted it off her head she ended up holding it on with one hand while I rode her, which was pathetic, hilarious and distracting all at once, but not enough to spoil the fun. I didn't bother to tip and she didn't ask. She said she had been in Suzhou 5 years working there, I felt bad for her more than anything. Sometimes this hobby is pretty brutal when you get into the nuts and bolts like that.

There may be other places like this in the area as I went about 4 PM and there were other shops closed up, usually these sorts of places come in clusters so I wouldn't be surprised if there were more options as it got later over there, had that vib about it.

Hope you find this useful!

One other comment, I found a "cute" gal on WeChat a couple of weeks ago and have seen her a few times, not a professional but just a regular gal working at a restaurant over in LiGongDi. She is maybe a 6 is all but really kind and likes to practice her English. I pick her up in the car, we talk for a few minutes and then she jumps me and makes out like she has never felt any love in her life at all. She wants to have full on sex so I'll probably do that in the next week or two.

The number one thing you can do for your prospects here is learn Chinese, just having marginal speaking ability really opens up doors and having WeChat / QQ on my phone and a good translator on there makes finding willing, and mostly free girls a snap.[/QUOTE]

Member #4218

12-13-13, 01:43

DaoMaDan is at: 31. 315854, 120. 666155 on googlemaps. It is a large place with several floors and over 100 workers, most of them quite plain but some are pretty cute. I suggest you try a few, get a cute one and start the sneaky hands after you have established attraction. This may only work if you are "handsome" by some standard and have some language too.

TomSf

12-13-13, 08:01

Jay Bird

12-13-13, 08:27

I can confirm there's quite some additional action down the same street (Yang Zhi Tang Lu). Just 100m further down from the place where you were there's a BBS open almost always, day and night. Girls tend to be +25 though. Place is a bit in the shadows by the building next to it and therefore might be hard to spot if you drive by too fast. The real treat is on the oposite side of the road though, after dark. From the streets you can only get some hints of what's going on as most of them have entrances from the back, but I have experienced up to 50 different girls there on nice summer evenings. Many young and cute ones! I have never seen much action on that side of the road during day.

I notice you're discussing HE massage. Very cheap option with good availability is Pan Li Lu. Difficult to get FS though, normally hand jobs or titfucks, but as Chinese girls tend to have small tits the titfuck is more like a hand job.

Also another place to consider is located at 31. 289579, 120. 653218 in googlemaps, just paste that in and it will come up. It is right of of DongHuan Lu by the Carrefour down on YangZhiTang Lu. As you walk away from DongHuan Lu west on the north side of the street you will see a bunch of ebike repair and metal working shops, just past those on the right is a small shop with a mamasan in the window and a TV on in the front room. You will sometimes find 3-4 girls sitting in there. I went in and the next gal in the pecking order offered me 200 RMB for 30 minutes or 300 RMB for one hour "massage". One of the gals was a real cute looker but they said she had to leave and couldn't see me right then. One of the others looked better and I choose her instead. We went through a few doors and into a beat up bedroom that wasn't terrible, she immediately dropped her pants and asked me to get naked. She started rubbing my cock and letting me play with her large tits, she kept her shirt on but pulled it and her bra up so I could get at them. After about 5 minutes I was good to go, she put the cover on and laid back, ready to go. I took my time and did a couple of positions which she took in stride, though she was a bit heavy for China and didn't want to get on top much. After about 15 minutes I had had enough and got into missionary and finished up. Straight sex for 200 RMB isn't bad and it wasn't super clean and not a GFE at all, but I'm not sure I wanted to kiss her and would never chance anything without a cover there.

JimLu

12-16-13, 15:53

You are so right. I just came back from Yang Zhi Tang Lu. I took a cab from my hotel to Carrefour on Donghuan Lu and then tried to find out the place with GPS coordinates. It was rainy and cold, so I walked quickly on Yang Zhi Tang Lu but kept looking around. All a sudden, a mamasan sitting beside the glass door spotted me and knocked the door hoping to get my attention. I looked at her and nodded a bit to let her know. But I didn't go in, instead I kept walking down the road looking for the second one. There were some small shops but I couldn't find it until I reached the 1st intersection. I thought its about time to stop exploring on this side of road so I crossed the road (be careful when you cross the road, cars won't stop for you) to the other side. I started to walk back toward Donghuan Lu. A mamasan called me up right the way, she whispered Lao Ben Lao Ben which means boss boss. She stood on a stair right next to a small shop with English sign &65331; &65317; &65317; &65324; &65325; &65327; &65326; . I couldn't remember what's the shop about but thats the only place with English sign on that part of road. I told her I would come back after dinner. I was cold and hungry but anyway, I only planed to get familiar with that area tonight. So I moved on and again walked toward Donghuan Lu. Just about couple mins of walking distance from Seelmon, there's a small street right next to a drug store and I turned right onto the street, walked straight maybe 5m and Bingo. An alley right next to a barber shop on the right hand side full of gals. Because its a back alley, mamasan / gals were just standing outside the doors trying to get some biz.

I didn't try any gals tonite though since my goal was to confirm and get familiar with the area. And I wanted to do some grocery in Carrefour.

I think. I may go back there again tomorrow nite.

I can confirm there's quite some additional action down the same street (Yang Zhi Tang Lu). Just 100m further down from the place where you were there's a BBS open almost always, day and night. Girls tend to be +25 though. Place is a bit in the shadows by the building next to it and therefore might be hard to spot if you drive by too fast. The real treat is on the oposite side of the road though, after dark. From the streets you can only get some hints of what's going on as most of them have entrances from the back, but I have experienced up to 50 different girls there on nice summer evenings. Many young and cute ones! I have never seen much action on that side of the road during day.

I notice you're discussing HE massage. Very cheap option with good availability is Pan Li Lu. Difficult to get FS though, normally hand jobs or titfucks, but as Chinese girls tend to have small tits the titfuck is more like a hand job.

Member #4218

12-17-13, 08:01

JimLu,

Can you post the GoogleMap's link or coordinates for the place and report back on your experience. How did the girls seem? Hopefully it is pretty good!

JimLu

12-23-13, 07:50

Hi guys,

The coordinate (31. 289251, 120. 652422) is for the pharmacy called Bai Zhi Tang. The back alley behind it is the happy street I was talking about. As I remember there's a barber shop right next to the entrance of alley. Anyway. Once you reach the pharmacy and make turn onto the small street beside it and just keep walking toward bridge and keep looking at your right hand side. I don't know how many BBS in that alley but you can't miss it.

The BBS I had been there has 6+ gals (20yo) , and 200R for quickie. Not a GFE for sure so if you want to a better service, you have to think about.

JimLu,

Can you post the GoogleMap's link or coordinates for the place and report back on your experience. How did the girls seem? Hopefully it is pretty good!

Staid Lo

01-10-14, 10:11

Was there early this week. 3 options. HJ (300) , Tijuana (400) , and BJ (500). Opted for Tijuana, xj look 6, be cup, short, dye blonde with blue highlight. 10 min massage, b2b back and front. Little tongue action, then on tf, got me off in record time, less than 25mins total. Took shower then chatted abit. Business been slow as most Japanese clients left home for holiday.

Room and shower were clean, saw the girl dorm as I walked out. Saw a few young ok looking xj but also some ugly ones too.

Too pricey for the service rendered, so no return for me. But I agree with jay bird this place is clean and offer more service than elephant (another report).

Cheers,

Staid.

On my last trip to this place, I was hooked up with Wen Wen (a. K. A. Number 6). She looks good, I rate her a 6-7 overall, but in all honesty I can't recommend her. Maybe I was spoiled after my last experience (see previous report) but Wen Wen's approach was pretty perfunctory and she lacks the skills of the other two girls that I have encountered in this place. YMMV.

Member #4218

01-16-14, 18:02

Have any of you ever played around with this website?

http://59136c.com/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=72&filter=typeid&typeid=389&jdfwkey=p0dxz2

It offers Suzhou QQ girls reviews but I can't figure out how to get to the QQ # of the girls. I bought a lifetime membership from a guy on TaoBao and have over 5,000 points so I should be able to see the contact info but I can't. Any of you checked this out, it is pretty active and lots of locals with good experiences posting on there.

Also, I tried the pharmacy place referenced below, I found the little alley mentioned and tried it out. Check out the photos below so you can find it easier. I went to the very first place on the left hand side and walked into the doorway. All I heard was a bunch of "oh. Laowai" and then the mamasan asked the girls if any of them wanted to take me. They all were pretty emphatically against me. I said a few things in Chinese to let them know I wasn't a total newbie, but it had no effect and I left. I hate when that happens.

I went to the next place on the right and it had about 4-5 girls in them with 1-2 of them cute enough for me, so I asked the price and was told 200 RMB. I said ok and we went into this bathroom but it had a secret passageway behind it leading to some seriously basic 'rooms' that were only 2/3 separated from one another (the walls didn't go all the way up so you can hear everything in the room next to you). The "door" was a poorly closing curtain. The gal brought me in, started stripping and got naked. Not a GFE for sure and she took my clothes off and said she could do BBJ for 300 or HJ for 200, no sex was offered and I frankly wasn't sure how I would feel about it anyway. I took the BBJ and after about 10 minutes of holding out popped in her mouth, she spit and we got dressed and that was that. Very "functional" but not a GFE at all, and about right for the money in Suzhou.

I have told the gal I have been with for 2+ years from the Elephant place that I have left town and won't be coming back to Suzhou, I was sick to death of the constant messaging and neediness. She is all heart broken, mostly because I'm not paying her rent anymore and she has to move back in with the rest of the ladies I think. We both had it pretty good but I was just tired of her. She may be looking for a new guy now though, who knows. She is a stickler for cleanliness (always with a condom, no BBJ) and she only recently let me go down on her but only a minute or so at a time. On the upside she is totally crazy for sex, we had sex out by Jin Ji Lake one night and she got totally naked out on a park bench with me. For my going away present we even ordered a massage girl and paid her to have sex with us. We told the massage girl we had been married 2 years and it was our anniversary and we were just crazy that way. It was a 3 hour lovefest for the ages. Way amazing.

She says if I come back to Suzhou next month after CNY she will invite one of her good friends from Shanghai over so I can screw her while my lady watches and kisses me. Pretty hot!

I'm back to my favorite massage lady from DaoMaDan or whatever the foot place is called, we haven't had sex again but I'm working on her, not nearly as needy and I know she hasn't been jacking guys off all day, so it is more of a girl next door thing going for me. May need to try some QQ girls too or something else. Pretty crazy here in Suzhou, but don't let the ladies get too attached to you, it sucks to extricate yourself.

Here are the photos from near the Pharmacy just off Dong Huan Lu near Carrefore.

Member #4218

01-18-14, 14:41

I should clarify that my long-time girl from the Elephant place is separate from the crazy stuff I mentioned in my previous post. My experience with the girlfriend from Shanghai and the sex at the lake are from the QQ lady I have known for a long time that I found on a QQ group. Anyone who wants her contact info please send me a personal message and I will send it to you.

The Elephant place girls do not give out full sex, but they are really great at massage. I would recommend #2, #5, #8 and also #4 as good solid massage experiences. I have been a regular of the Elephant place for 2 years and really enjoyed it but I have to move on. My business is taking a turn for the worst and my personal situation has made it impossible to continue there. Please be respectful of the ladies at the Elephant place, they really do work hard and don't get nearly the tips / pay they deserve, IMHO.

JimLu

01-21-14, 10:04

Thanks a lot, MakeoutGuy,

The website looks great and helpful. I will check it out during my trip to Suzhou next time.

The places shown in photos are correct and I'm surprised that you didn't get a full service even you paid 300.

Probably because you are a "laowai" <- you do know that means "foreigner" rite?

Have any of you ever played around with this website?

http://59136c.com/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=72&filter=typeid&typeid=389&jdfwkey=p0dxz2

It offers Suzhou QQ girls reviews but I can't figure out how to get to the QQ # of the girls. I bought a lifetime membership from a guy on TaoBao and have over 5, 000 points so I should be able to see the contact info but I can't. Any of you checked this out, it is pretty active and lots of locals with good experiences posting on there.

Also, I tried the pharmacy place referenced below, I found the little alley mentioned and tried it out. Check out the photos below so you can find it easier. I went to the very first place on the left hand side and walked into the doorway. All I heard was a bunch of "oh. Laowai" and then the mamasan asked the girls if any of them wanted to take me. They all were pretty emphatically against me. I said a few things in Chinese to let them know I wasn't a total newbie, y...

Blubber80

01-23-14, 15:57

Have any of you ever played around with this website?

http://59136c.com/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=72&filter=typeid&typeid=389&jdfwkey=p0dxz2Just a note: Avast is yelling out a warning, if I try to access that page.

HeavyFuel

02-05-14, 04:29

In Suzhou week of Feb 10th. Any fellow mongers up for a beer?

Wabbittt

02-11-14, 11:27

A quick update on the 'Elephant Place'. They seem to be giving it a partial makeover (long overdue). In particular, the girls now have slinky new red uniforms instead of the scratchy old blue ones they used to wear. Pleasingly, the new uniforms have buttons down the front that actually open their blouses. Regulars here may recall that the buttons on the old uniforms were purely for decoration, which hampered tit fondling. Just as good, their new skirts don't have the built-in gussets (a. K. A. 'passionkillers') that the old uniforms had. This makes other explorations and FIV much easier, assuming your girl is up for it. Currently, there are four girls around after their 10 day holiday: numbers 3, 7.8 and 10. The one I saw seemed to be reinvigorated after her break and we had a great session.

Beijing4987

02-11-14, 18:58

Is that a new gal who has taken #3, or the one from more than a year ago who left? The original #3 was more fun than some if the others. Let's have more reports guys. I will do so in a couple months.

BJ.

]A quick update on the 'Elephant Place'. They seem to be giving it a partial makeover (long overdue). In particular, the girls now have slinky new red uniforms instead of the scratchy old blue ones they used to wear. Pleasingly, the new uniforms have buttons down the front that actually open their blouses. Regulars here may recall that the buttons on the old uniforms were purely for decoration, which hampered tit fondling. Just as good, their new skirts don't have the built-in gussets (a. K. A. 'passionkillers') that the old uniforms had. This makes other explorations and FIV much easier, assuming your girl is up for it. Currently, there are four girls around after their 10 day holiday: numbers 3, 7.8 and 10. The one I saw seemed to be reinvigorated after her break and we had a great session.[/QUOTE]

HeavyFuel

02-12-14, 07:08

Was that you I saw at the counter last night around 10pm? Should've said hello.

Saw YoYo again but was disappointed. The other one #3 was way better although she seemed to have more down on her arm than me!

A quick update on the 'Elephant Place'. They seem to be giving it a partial makeover (long overdue). In particular, the girls now have slinky new red uniforms instead of the scratchy old blue ones they used to wear. Pleasingly, the new uniforms have buttons down the front that actually open their blouses. Regulars here may recall that the buttons on the old uniforms were purely for decoration, which hampered tit fondling. Just as good, their new skirts don't have the built-in gussets (a. K. A. 'passionkillers') that the old uniforms had. This makes other explorations and FIV much easier, assuming your girl is up for it. Currently, there are four girls around after their 10 day holiday: numbers 3, 7.8 and 10. The one I saw seemed to be reinvigorated after her break and we had a great session.

HeavyFuel

02-12-14, 16:06

Mates,

Here's a convincing look at the new uniform on #7. My first time with her yet had my hands all over the boobs, and got her number. She's not bad looking and does a pretty hard massage which I like. Will be visiting her again before I leave.

-HF

Brit Suzhou

02-18-14, 18:25

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Beijing4987

02-19-14, 03:15

Bros.

Any sign of a crackdown in Suzhou or Shanghai. N. Y. Times says Jiangsu is involved in the crackdown. Can't stop it all, as we know.

JohnnyGolfr

03-15-14, 08:52

Crackdown in progress for most of Shanghai, Jiangsu, and Southern China.

Visited a KTV in Dalian that was operating with take away service and assurances from the mamasan that all was well. Took one home and she was SUPER scared of police. Ended up doing nothing and she left after about 20 mins.

Bros.

Any sign of a crackdown in Suzhou or Shanghai. N. Y. Times says Jiangsu is involved in the crackdown. Can't stop it all, as we know.

Beijing4987

03-15-14, 16:07

Johnny.

Do you have any specific info about a crackdown in Suzhou. Massage places or bars or hotel rooms raided in Suzhou or Shanghai?

JohnnyGolfr

03-15-14, 23:29

Haven't heard of any police raids on hotel rooms.

Mostly KTV's and MP's that aren't paying their facilitation fees.

Things will probably get back to normal later this month or early April.

Johnny.

Do you have any specific info about a crackdown in Suzhou. Massage places or bars or hotel rooms raided in Suzhou or Shanghai?

JohnnyGolfr

03-15-14, 23:34

Can't PM you. Would love to get the info on your QQ lady.

I should clarify that my long-time girl from the Elephant place is separate from the crazy stuff I mentioned in my previous post. My experience with the girlfriend from Shanghai and the sex at the lake are from the QQ lady I have known for a long time that I found on a QQ group. Anyone who wants her contact info please send me a personal message and I will send it to you.

The Elephant place girls do not give out full sex, but they are really great at massage. I would recommend #2, #5, #8 and also #4 as good solid massage experiences. I have been a regular of the Elephant place for 2 years and really enjoyed it but I have to move on. My business is taking a turn for the worst and my personal situation has made it impossible to continue there. Please be respectful of the ladies at the Elephant place, they really do work hard and don't get nearly the tips / pay they deserve, IMHO.

Andrew1001

03-25-14, 14:26

Mighty Spearsman

03-25-14, 23:37

Hey all,

One of my friends who studies in Nanjing is back in Suzhou and looking for a Westerner to take her out and treat her well. Sex would definitely be on the menu if you have a click. If you would like her email / whatsapp, drop me a PM. She's gorgeous, and speaks excellent English.This is your first post in over 2 years, and your first post on the China board. Who are you? Why should we believe you? and do you have a working PM?

Or should this post be in the classified ads section?

If your friend is really as gorgeous as you write, and she truly does speak excellent English, then she shouldn't need your help to get hooked up with a Westerner.

Ikksman

03-26-14, 03:13

Andrew1001

03-26-14, 20:23

Hey there,

No it's a different girl.

Just trying to give something back to the forum, that's all. Sorry if I offended.

Andrew

Is this the same girl that you were offering to everyone in Manila 2 years ago. Your only posts on this forum?

Screams of scam. Caution, beware!

DassaultGade

04-03-14, 14:44

Brit Suzhou

04-03-14, 21:21

Hey,

Anyone know of any action around Renmin Lu / Guanqian? Massage, or BBS?

I have no interest in KTV or escorts or anything like that.

Thanks

Beijing4987

04-04-14, 02:48

So are you willing to share her with the rest of us, if you get PM it is convenient to.

Share this way. Give us someone details.

Jay Bird

04-15-14, 02:50

Hey,

Anyone know of any action around Renmin Lu / Guanqian? Massage, or BBS?

I have no interest in KTV or escorts or anything like that.

ThanksHi,

I believe we are out after the same, I also prefer massage / BBS, don't fancy KTV.

In Yong Ding Si Long there are 4-5 BBS. Have only seen them open in the evening though. I've heard there are some more joints in the surrounding area. Must admit I haven't tried any of the girls there, just walked by.

Google maps: 31. 306236, 120. 618509.

Let me know if you discover additional places, many of the BBS are very run down and dirty, I would like to find something a bit more upscale and decent, but it seems the choice are either RMB 150 in BBS or RMB 800 in bath house, nothing in between.

Beijing4987

04-29-14, 00:54

Any recommendations for Elephant / Butterfly MP or places nearby in SIP?

Mates,

Here's a convincing look at the new uniform on #7. My first time with her yet had my hands all over the boobs, and got her number. She's not bad looking and does a pretty hard massage which I like. Will be visiting her again before I leave.

-HF[/QUOTE]

Paul John36

04-29-14, 08:36

Hi guys,

Stopping in the Hyatt for two nights any where decent nearby?

DassaultGade

05-16-14, 10:35

One more session with my WeChat girl. This time I paid her dinner to get to the 'action'. Back home at hotel around 23:15.

We spend nearly 3 hours on shower, oil massage, aXX rimming etc. This time I even managed to slide the little fella into entrance nr 2. Ended up with CIM.

Sorry but I think I have been through 10 girls, before I really found one that like to spend time on good action, and not just in it for some money, so no sharing.

The pictures are from the time where I did some massage on entrance nr2 with the little guy. 2 minutes after the pictures were taken he was in. She went a kind of 'positive crazy' from her first time with this kind of 'joyful pain'.

I will try again tonight.

Beijing4987

05-22-14, 05:43

One of mates had a nice grope with # 8 at the Butterfly MP in Suzhou. Keep the good reports coming, so we know who is still available what extras she provides.

BJ.

HeavyFuel

05-22-14, 14:27

I asked her point blank that I'd like to see her naked. No go. All I got was a glimpse of the boobs in the following session.

One of mates had a nice grope with # 8 at the Butterfly MP in Suzhou. Keep the good reports coming, so we know who is still available what extras she provides.

BJ.

Beijing4987

05-22-14, 16:50

These girls pretend that they are not sex workers and don't realize that a little groping or nipple sucking will make a guy come faster and cause them to work less. They return to the room to get the tip and may be disappointed to get nothing.

I asked her point blank that I'd like to see her naked. No go. All I got was a glimpse of the boobs in the following session.

Beijing4987

05-22-14, 16:56

The massage girls in Shanghai know how to earn a tip. Some appear shocked or try to refuse it but that must be a game they play. After a session or two they accept it gladly with a "xie xie".

Flocke24

05-28-14, 22:54

Hey all,

One of my friends who studies in Nanjing is back in Suzhou and looking for a Westerner to take her out and treat her well. Sex would definitely be on the menu if you have a click. If you would like her email / whatsapp, drop me a PM. She's gorgeous, and speaks excellent English.Please send me the contact details.

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Asian Geek

07-16-14, 15:40

Hi,

I will be there in Suzhou end of this month and am looking for some leads for fun. I have been to the massage places near sip earlier and have been able to get some limited fun. No full sex. This time, I would like to have a pretty young thing in my room. Any pointers will be appreciated.

AG.

I should clarify that my long-time girl from the Elephant place is separate from the crazy stuff I mentioned in my previous post. My experience with the girlfriend from Shanghai and the sex at the lake are from the QQ lady I have known for a long time that I found on a QQ group. Anyone who wants her contact info please send me a personal message and I will send it to you.

The Elephant place girls do not give out full sex, but they are really great at massage. I would recommend #2, #5, #8 and also #4 as good solid massage experiences. I have been a regular of the Elephant place for 2 years and really enjoyed it but I have to move on. My business is taking a turn for the worst and my personal situation has made it impossible to continue there. Please be respectful of the ladies at the Elephant place, they really do work hard and don't get nearly the tips / pay they deserve, IMHO.

JimLu

07-30-14, 13:57

Coming to Suzhou in the week of Aug 7th and will stay in SIP for a week.

Anyone want to meet up? I can speak mandarin well so it won't be a problem to communicate with locals.

Brit Suzhou

08-05-14, 14:56

Hey,

What's the deal with BBS action now in Suzhou? I can't seem to find anything!

Looked at a few old recommendations on here of places to go but I honestly can't see a thing, especially in the places in the SND a few people mentioned some time ago. I guess they got shut down.

I remember when I first came here they really weren't subtle about it but I'm guessing there must have been a crackdown.

There's definitely something fishy going on at Sanxiang Lu. All I see is gorgeous girls walking around at night and with pretty ugly guys, but they are seriously hot so I guess there must be a KTV / club around, and I'm fairly certain I've spotted what may or may not be BBS on Shijia Alley / Xihuaqiao Alley (can't remember which).

I'm seeing a few screen windows dotted aroun with usually an old woman inside, sometimes alone, just watching TV. I'm guessing if they are BBS then the girls are probably upstairs, but I don't want to ask some old woman where I can get a blowie when she's just trying to watch her stories!

There was a place with pink lights on and a few girls who looked like hookers on one of the alleys I've mentioned, didn't go in as there were shitloads of people around and I was just sort of casing the area. That one was pretty obvious but otherwise I have no idea.

Someone help me out here! I've never been to a BBS in Suzhou, only Beijing and it was ridiculously obvious there!

SexInCity

08-09-14, 16:41

JohnDingDong

09-19-14, 14:18

Hi there,

I stay here for 2 weeks and I'm looking for some full service fun. Are there good places for eat-in or pickup near courtyard Marriott? Or any contacts you can share?

Thanks a lot, will also report later on.

JimLu

10-20-14, 17:37

Stay in Suzhou for two weeks. I want to visit couple of BBS I used to go but I don't want to go alone, so anyone want to meet up? I can speak Mandarin well so it won't be a problem to communicate with locals.

Beijing4987

10-20-14, 18:09

I found one in Mudu city last year. Hard to describe where though. Near the tourist area in an alley. Should be more.

Stay in Suzhou for two weeks. I want to visit couple of BBS I used to go but I don't want to go alone, so anyone want to meet up? I can speak Mandarin well so it won't be a problem to communicate with locals.

JimLu

10-21-14, 15:36

Thanks, Beijing4987. I'm heading to one nearby emerald city plaza tonight, anyone interested?

I found one in Mudu city last year. Hard to describe where though. Near the tourist area in an alley. Should be more.

Stay in Suzhou for two weeks. I want to visit couple of BBS I used to go but I don't want to go alone, so anyone want to meet up? I can speak Mandarin well so it won't be a problem to communicate with locals.

FernandoAlonso

10-22-14, 16:29

A while ago I asked whether anyone had experiences in Changshu, yet there were no replies. Changshu doesn't seem to be too popular among expats, in the one month living here I have seen about eight foreigners on the streets.

In case anyone comes here, I'd like to share my first experiences.

Generally all massage shops seem to have happy ending on the menu, and FS is available, too.

I went into two foot massage shops where they had plainclothes girls (they also have the shops with the girls in black miniskirts, haven't tried these so far)

In both shops I asked for a foot massage first. That was done by older rather unattractive ladies, and the massage was pretty good. After the foot massage, in both shops I was asked whether I needed a lady. I asked for the price and they said it was 200. When I agreed, they called in some young girls, in one shop it was a real cutie.

In the other shop, we went to another room equipped with a massage bed (in the first room there was just a chair). I thought it was going to happen here, but behind a curtain there was a door to a room with a small bed. In that room there was a closet whose back wall was really a sliding door leading to yet another room. So maybe if they need to hide the action so well they aren't best friends with LE.

Not sure why but in both shops I had the experience that the initial stroking of little brother was very soft, mayb it's the way local customers like it that way.

All girls are not shaved down south, but since I like it better that way no problem for me.

The cutie was very bubbly and friendly, no real GFE (what do we expect for 200?) but some kissing and fake moans. After the deed, we swapped our phone numbers, and after some days she came to my hotel and I banged her for free, she didn't even ask for a tip. The only things she asked for was whether I would like her, whether I would like kids and whether she could have my baby.

So although she is not bad-looking I won't pursue that relationship for long, if at all.

The massage shops I visited so far are on Dongmen Street and on Qinhu Road north of Xinyan Road.

I also went to a spa on Haiyu South road and paid 338 for a 90-minute kidney massage with happy ending. I didn't ask for FS that time, but since I can get FS for 200 elsewhere maybe I won't bother.As there is so little about Changsu (not Changzhou), which is named as Changsu, Suzhou but is actually 60 km away from Suzhou and almost as big as the latter. Most long noses will stay in the Holiday Inn or Crowne Plaza, which is a bit isolated, so grab a cap if you can find it and venture out. In case you try to use google or Apple maps to locate the hotel, forget it. It is in the northeast of the city besides the huge sport complex. No idea why the search function of both map apps is not able to locate this. Anyway now you know.

First do not try to find Dongmen Lu, it does not exist. Qhinhu Lu does, however action is limited to two open MPs and two or three shady KTV, one kicked me out, the other the owner claimed only sing and drink and offered to accompany me, which I friendly declined. I am pretty sure both are naughty KTV, but maybe not for foreigner and being alone I did not want to go are the risk.

In one of the MP it was exactely as described before, book any massage and they will offer extras. However no nice young lady from outside, the milfs offer themselves, 400 BJ, 600 FS on top of the massage fee. Ridiculous. I took one for the team, negotiated her down to 500 all in and we went to another place for the deed, which was not that bad in the end. Still way overpriced but she would not budge.

Will check further tomorrow, any tips on better venues and especially better quality girls appreciated.

Fa.

FernandoAlonso

10-22-14, 16:40

Seems my last report got lost, so just a quickie. Most of the places described here before in the actual city have been sanitised thoroughly, especially the area around the pharmacy near the Carrefour. Save yourself the trouble. FS is still available in some of the upscale MPs but it is hit and miss and pricey, now.

Anyone has actual info please post for everybody's sake.

FA.

Beijing4987

10-22-14, 18:26

Fernando.

The Elephant suits my needs and budget and the Blue Lady bar is fun for a quick drink an a bit of nostalgia. My ATF scored a Laowai there and now has his child. Must a hidden gem on bar street waiting for her 15 minutes of fame on ISG.

BJ here.

Seems my last report got lost, so just a quickie. Most of the places described here before in the actual city have been sanitised thoroughly, especially the area around the pharmacy near the Carrefour. Save yourself the trouble. FS is still available in some of the upscale MPs but it is hit and miss and pricey, now.

Anyone has actual info please post for everybody's sake.

FA.

FernandoAlonso

10-23-14, 16:34

Continued.

Found the 55 place Oriental Venice, HaiYu Bei Road 55. How can anyone miss that? Corner Qinfeng lu, I think. Massive KTV with obvious all actions. Cute ladies everywhere. Stupidly and as it was not prior described as a KTV I was alone and could not get them to offer me reasonable conditions. 2000 was not on my budget for the day. When I told the taxi driver he laughed and agreed they wanted rip me off, but if you are with Chinese friends a must try!

Next stop was a bath club on Changjiang Lu. 300 something entrance fee but they insisted no full service so I passed, if you are Chinese I am sure you get FS but whatever, you win some, you loose some. Place is on Changjiang lu near the Intersectionlwith Lizha road or so. West of the intersection with HuaShan Lu there are a few BBS with very cute girls in the early twenties. 200 RMB on premise BBBJ and FS. Great selection, no rush. Perfect value for money. Closer to HaiYu Bei Lu are a few bars that look like pick up joints.

So if you happen to be here choose a hotel in the centre or Eastern part and there is plenty of action. Taxi from the Holiday Inn to the described locations should be less than 15 RMB, so also fine.

Explore further and keep the info coming. This has become a rather quiet thread.

Stay safe.

FA.

FernandoAlonso

10-23-14, 16:36

Fernando.

The Elephant suits my needs and budget and the Blue Lady bar is fun for a quick drink an a bit of nostalgia. My ATF scored a Laowai there and now has his child. Must a hidden gem on bar street waiting for her 15 minutes of fame on ISG.

BJ hereMate, no offence intended, yours is the only place apparently still in operation apart from what I reported and will share via pm because of the situation. Also Elephant is SIP, not city centre.

FA.

Beijing4987

10-24-14, 00:13

FA.

Shanghai is so close and the trains so slick, that it's easy to bomb down in half a hour. Suzhou can be enjoyed for what it is. The bar street is such a scam anyway, but can be entertaining. One member who just left had lots of contacts and shared via pm.

BJ.

Wabbittt

10-25-14, 17:33

Mate, no offence intended, yours is the only place apparently still in operation apart from what I reported and will share via pm because of the situation. Also Elephant is SIP, not city centre.

FA.FA,

Don't despair! There are plenty of places in operation. Indeed, with the benefit of hindsight, I reckon Suzhou escaped the 'Yanda' completely. If you want a few suggestions, try SLF (Li Gong Di), Baishen (Old town), SkyPark Hotel (SIP) or the massage place on the Japanese Street (SND). Plenty of others. PM me for details. Wabbitt.

GunsAndRoses

10-28-14, 09:17

FA,

Don't despair! There are plenty of places in operation. Indeed, with the benefit of hindsight, I reckon Suzhou escaped the 'Yanda' completely. If you want a few suggestions, try SLF (Li Gong Di), Baishen (Old town), SkyPark Hotel (SIP) or the massage place on the Japanese Street (SND). Plenty of others. PM me for details. Wabbitt.Hi Wabbittt,

Although I do have a subscription I couldn't find how to PM you. I would like to get some info on a couple of places you mentioned here.

Wabbittt

10-30-14, 01:24

Hi Wabbittt,

Although I do have a subscription I couldn't find how to PM you. I would like to get some info on a couple of places you mentioned here.I should be contactable by PM. Just click on my name to get access to PM.

Beijing4987

11-05-14, 12:47

It's been a long time since I rode the Elephant. Had # 3 tonight. Long and boring massage, some parts ok. The balls and junior teasing before the flip predicable. Asked if I could squeeze the tomatoes. Tomatoes off limits. I told her her hand would get very tired, but she did not respond. A little bun touching allowed. He completed by the pros they are at this place. She knew when to start fingering the ass. Gave the boss's money to #2, who was very cute and had very nice tomatoes. We' ll sees what happens if I return. Forgot to ask for 2's cell number. Anybody get further into the goods than me?

BJ.

GunsAndRoses

12-01-14, 08:28

Does any one know of a place where you can get FS in Suzhou?

Pushkin13

12-02-14, 10:44

Does any one know of a place where you can get FS in Suzhou?With all due respect GunsAndRoses. It is more blessed to give, than to receive.

First, if you report your successes and failures for the bruvvers, in your various cities, they (the bruvvers) will be more inclined to assist you.

Second, can you speak, read, write Chinese (hanyu)? Suzhou, like all Chinese cities, has umpteen FS possibilities. But you need to clarify your target and your assumptions, your budget and your MO.

Over to you.

Just my experience.

P13.

P.S. Looking forward to your report (s) from the front line!!

GunsAndRoses

12-03-14, 13:43

With all due respect GunsAndRoses. It is more blessed to give, than to receive.

First, if you report your successes and failures for the bruvvers, in your various cities, they (the bruvvers) will be more inclined to assist you.

Second, can you speak, read, write Chinese (hanyu)? Suzhou, like all Chinese cities, has umpteen FS possibilities. But you need to clarify your target and your assumptions, your budget and your MO.

Over to you.

Just my experience.

P13.

P.S. Looking forward to your report (s) from the front line!!Thanks Pushkin13 for your invitation to report. You are right! It is always good to give if you want to receive one day. You probably have missed my previous posts, which I understand because they happened long time ago. I am not very experienced as many others here who not only know of all the varieties in China but in other countries as well. I have only had some nice he massages here and there in SIP in the elephant place, Qingsong, the hotsprings near landmark hotel and recently in Matsutani. Although it is a relaxing thing to do once in a while I feel that I would like to taste some more but I simply don't know where. I have read posts from Shanghai forums and the sauna kind of experience sounds very good. Is there anything like that around here?

I do not speak Hanyu more than a few survival sentences so I know that can be a problem.

What is MO?

Beijing4987

12-03-14, 21:43

G&R

Did you get a veggie massage only or a handjob at the Qinsong and Matsutani locations? At the Elephant it is included in the 268 price.

Pushkin13

12-04-14, 10:14

Thanks Pushkin13 for your invitation to report. You are right! It is always good to give if you want to receive one day. You probably have missed my previous posts, which I understand because they happened long time ago. I am not very experienced as many others here who not only know of all the varieties in China but in other countries as well. I have only had some nice he massages here and there in SIP in the elephant place, Qingsong, the hotsprings near landmark hotel and recently in Matsutani. Although it is a relaxing thing to do once in a while I feel that I would like to taste some more but I simply don't know where. I have read posts from Shanghai forums and the sauna kind of experience sounds very good. Is there anything like that around here?

I do not speak Hanyu more than a few survival sentences so I know that can be a problem.

What is MO?MO = modus operandi.

The way you do things, the preferred way of doing things, the sequence, the pattern, the plan.

Many of the bruvvers in China have different MOs depending on budget, city, knowledge / use of the local language, particular fetishes etc.

Enjoy and report.

P13.

DassaultGade

12-04-14, 10:57

I am every now and then is Suzhou, and I always stay at the same hotel. Not that the hotel is so important, I just like to stay at Renaissance.

I do not speak much Chinese, but I do understand a bit. Normally I am just there for 5-7 days, and I always manage to have loads of fun. I invest a little time doing different things e. G. Use my WeChat, go to different department stores and shop (and smile to the girls).

Sometimes also do the more hardcore like going to 'the bar street' and pick up a girl. All in all, I now have a network of different girls that I have some fun with. Some are normal girls with good education; they just like to try a foreign guy. They are doing everything free. Just like to talk, have fun, and eventually do 'the deed'. And here I only go for the ones that speak English (find them on WeChat, and invest a little time). Often gives a GFE experience. Some are boring in bad, others are crazy.

I do also have a little network of working girls. Most of them have worked in the bar street, some still do, some moved on. Many of them do not speak much English, but I don't mind, and they don't mind. I have 2 -3 that I can.

Contact, and they come to my hotel. So I don't have to go to 'the bar street' anymore. These 2-3 girls are found during the last 2-3 years, and I think I have been through 15-20 of these girls to find the right ones. Some are.

Machines in bed after investing time with them, some are more romantic in the approach. Size wise one I small around 43 kg, one bigger around 53 kg. !!

My point is that it is possible to have a base of girls, and depending on the mood of the day, I simply pick. Hard core with CIM and and anal. And other stuff. Or a nice dinner, that ends with oil massage, and slow going sex.

I do admit if people have never been in Suzhou before, and not going again. Then a sauna, or a visit to the bar street is probably the easy way.

I also want to add. I have NEVER been cheated in Suzhou. ! I have every now and then spend money / time on a girl that turned out to be worth nothing in bed. But that is a risk that is acceptable.

I love SuZhou, I will go there again some few days later. And I will 'totally dry' before I go back to celebrate Christmas.

There is pussy everywhere. In bars. In dep stores, at hotels. Just spend a little time. .

GunsAndRoses

12-04-14, 12:07

G&R

Did you get a veggie massage only or a handjob at the Qinsong and Matsutani locations? At the Elephant it is included in the 268 price.HJ after a really professional massage. The problem is the cost. At Matsutani you pay 498. No lame massage though. At Qingsong is good as well but not all anmozhi offer it. Those who do want a tip and you end up paying some 350 to 400.

Bunny Munro

12-08-14, 17:04

I have only had some nice he massages here and there in SIP in the elephant place, Qingsong, the hotsprings near landmark hotel and recently in Matsutani. I'm a recent arrival to Suzhou, so it's time to share some first front line experience in SIP.

So far, I tried number 1, 3 and 4 on your list, and especially the RD Hot Springs at the Landmark seems to offer a wide range of services at a reasonable price. Everything including FS was offered at my first visit, and the staff were very accommodating despite my practically non-existing Mandarin skills. They have no problem with bringing your phone to the room for online translation, and the pajamas have pockets for carrying it around to the second floor.

Price for my service of choice (massage with girl being fully nude, then BBBJ, then continue massage and shower) was slightly below RMB 600 (including the pool / sauna fee), and FS was offered at RMB 906. The rooms surely aren't Park Hyatt level, but nice and clean. All girls shown to me were young and attractive, but I didn't look at more than four yet (no line-up, just one by one).

The one thing that struck me as strange is that they wanted cash in advance on my second visit. If the first visit wouldn't have been that good, I would have walked out. Hint: better bring some cash upstairs. It was annoying to go back to the locker room.

Happy hunting! I'll contribute more once I have a better hang of Suzhou.

DassaultGade

12-15-14, 04:37

I just spend yet another week on Zs. Only 5 days, so I had to prioritize. Not by plan, just by spontaneous pick, I ended up with one of the girls often sitting close to the 'elevator road' in the hotel. So easy to know if they are massage girls or not. She just looked directly at me with an inviting smile, I responded, and of we went. Great service, but still I get the feeling I always get when I do the deed for the first time with a new girl. It's not mind-blowing. Just kind of average. One night after I had a visitor at the hotel, one of my regular WeChat girls. I want the long session with oil massage etc. We spend 2½ hour, and I was DONE when she left. Massage, sex, dildo play. Ended up shooting a load distributed nicely between her tight tits, and mouth. I could nearly not find the energy to show her out afterwards. I have done the deed with her many times, and I just once more confirmed to myself that these regulars are so much better than first timers, saunas etc. But I know. There is always a first time.

The last 2 nights my choice was to spend it on a woman in the beginning of her 30 ties. University, good job in Shanghai area, for sure not into one night stands. However, I am getting closer, and this time send all these small messages with her body language that she soon will be ready. So I expect to spend 'the other end of her' next time I spend a couple of dinners with her. Probably on Jan or Feb.

I love Suzhou.

Bunny Munro

01-10-15, 15:49

Short update: inflation raised its ugly head again at RD Hot Springs. While the basic massage and spa prices seem unchanged from last year (at least on the in-room menu), the cost for the one hour package including BBBJ has risen to RMB630, and the FS package is RMB955 now.

I still like the place due to the good service level (you really stick out as a foreigner, so I got a very friendly 'welcome back' from the staff), and the lack of decent in-call alternatives in SIP.

Happy 2015 to all, and I hope reporting on Suzhou picks up a bit this year!

DassaultGade

01-17-15, 03:44

Just been to Suzhou for some days. Chose to meet one of my weChat girls that suply great GFE, and again she didn't disappoint me. Spend 2 1/2 hour on shower, oil massage, and dildo games. I have spent many sessions with her, so there is a nice 'trust' in the room when she is there. This time we even managed to spend time with entrance nr2, first with the small machine that I brought, and later se actually took me in that entrance too. (That was new to me). She even allowed me to finish in her mouth. Took me 5 min to sleep like a baby after she left.

Pictures to be found in the Pic thread.

I love Suzhou.

Jay Bird

04-07-15, 07:11

Guys,

I'm writing this letter as we need to do some joint effort to identify some new / better places for fun in Suzhou.

Last Friday I went to the famous elephant place to have a he massage. A was greeted by some auntie which took me to the room. Clearly I didn't want massage from this old thing, so I ventured out into the lobby again, where the girls normally hang around. There were just two girls in at the time and they were not only ugly, but too old as well.

I've been a regular here for something like 5 years, and I've never seen such a poor selection. I think the place has deteriorated over the years.

There are many other massage joints around the same block, and also elsewhere in Suzhou. Has anyone tried any of these places? If so, any recommendations would be greeted with appreciation by a seeking fellow mate.

Bunny Munro

04-07-15, 16:33

There are many other massage joints around the same block, and also elsewhere in Suzhou. Has anyone tried any of these places? If so, any recommendations would be greeted with appreciation by a seeking fellow mate.Jay Bird,

I also gave up on the Elephant place, as both the quality of the rooms and the general service level don't quite cut it for me. The Matsutani place across from Rainbow mall regularly offered a happy ending to me, but the girls expect a tip (RMB 200, negotiable) unless you pick the overpriced 'amorous' massage packages (they have a separate menu for those). Alas, the rooms and showers aren't much better. All other shops I tried in this area only offered veggie massages.

From what I found so far in SIP, the RD Hot Springs comes closest to my requirements, as you can get everything from a decent massage up to FS without any negotiation / tipping hassles. My main issue with them is the lack of a line-up. I sometimes had to reject 5 girls in a row before they sent me nice one (which then refused to do foreigners). The lack of action in this thread kind of reflects the lack of foreigner friendly mongering options in Suzhou.

Happy hunting!

Beijing4987

04-08-15, 00:01

Maybe we should speak to the management. Xiu xiu is the younger sister of the MaMa. I only saw her once this trip and she stopped sending Wechats. Went to Baishen to see a Sichuan gal, but that got boring. She had the nerve to ask me for a 1000 rmb bottle of perfume.

Jay Bird

04-08-15, 08:38

Jay Bird,

I also gave up on the Elephant place, as both the quality of the rooms and the general service level don't quite cut it for me. The Matsutani place across from Rainbow mall regularly offered a happy ending to me, but the girls expect a tip (RMB 200, negotiable) unless you pick the overpriced 'amorous' massage packages (they have a separate menu for those). Alas, the rooms and showers aren't much better. All other shops I tried in this area only offered veggie massages.

From what I found so far in SIP, the RD Hot Springs comes closest to my requirements, as you can get everything from a decent massage up to FS without any negotiation / tipping hassles. My main issue with them is the lack of a line-up. I sometimes had to reject 5 girls in a row before they sent me nice one (which then refused to do foreigners). The lack of action in this thread kind of reflects the lack of foreigner friendly mongering options in Suzhou.

Happy hunting!Thanks Munro, seems we share the same experiences. It's nice to go to Shanghai from time to time where the election is totally different, though sometime (always) the urge is pressing and no time to go to Shanghai.

I have us a massage place in SND, don't know the name but it's located at the top of the "Japanese street". It's a bit hit&miss, but anyway better than the elephant.

I have also been tipped off of something called SLF at Li Gong Di, but haven't been able to locate it.

Voyager100

04-27-15, 07:36

Newbie Voyager 100 here, I am in SIP visiting now.

Is RD Hot Springs inside the Landmark (which is a short cab ride from me) or nearby / next door? Any other spa / F'S places close by this area, hotel or independent?

Thanks in advance for info. And directions.

Bunny Munro

04-29-15, 16:06

Is RD Hot Springs inside the Landmark (which is a short cab ride from me) or nearby / next door?It's in a separate building with a large sign on top, and hard to miss once you're in the hotel compound. Pick the entrance on the right side of the building, and once you're inside, sit down on the sofas on the left hand side of the lobby and remove your shoes. They'll hand you a key for your locker, and you're all set.

Voyager100

05-02-15, 07:05

It's in a separate building with a large sign on top, and hard to miss once you're in the hotel compound. Pick the entrance on the right side of the building, and once you're inside, sit down on the sofas on the left hand side of the lobby and remove your shoes. They'll hand you a key for your locker, and you're all set.Bunny Munro,

Thanks for the directions. Cabbie found it easily. Followed your directions, some difficulty as I speak only English they speak only Chinese but got the deal set. (The poster board in front of lobby does not include what we are looking for.) Aren't the phone translator apps great?

Cute lady, average + massage, scripted through the service to the deed. Nothing special but what I was looking for.

On to Shanghai next week!

Iailwd2010

05-10-15, 21:43

Hey,

I've heard some great things about the Suzhou area in terms of the lovely ladies.

I'm looking for some tips on the where and how for paid services.

I took a look through WeChat and attempted contact with maybe a dozen girls offering FS but they all either refused service to foreigners, wanted around 1000 RMB (because I'm a foreigner), or wouldn't set up service without using a phone.

I don't have a Chinese phone number and my Mandarin is beyond broken.

Negotiating skills are a plus for me, I'd prefer FS over the massage options, and I'd like to keep it off the street.

What advice / suggestions can you lend me do you think?

I understand that FS should run me around 500 RMB for good service, but I'm having difficulty tracking anything down at that price.

Thanks in advance!

Beijing4987

05-13-15, 23:50

For those of us who have been a little disappointed with the Elephant MP in Suzhou Industrial Park I can recommend Xial Li #3 there. She is very tall with a substantial body, but not fat at all. A pretty gal from Anhui province. Good oil massage and tease before the flip. Nice Happy Ending, not a brutal or perfunctory tug with scorn if it takes too long. I saw #5 on the way out, wondering if she is the one our fellow ISG member wooed and dumped. Any reports about return of #6 would be appreciated. Xiao Li knows what it takes to get a tip and promise of a return visit.

Wabbittt

06-08-15, 15:00

A brief note to report that the Baishen Spa off Renmin Lu seems to be shut. Earlier today, some of the workers were sitting outside it on a sofa to tell clients not to enter. Not sure if LE has paid a visit or if / when it will re-open. If I learn more, I'll post it here.

Beijing4987

06-08-15, 19:56

Wabbittt

06-11-15, 14:03

Worker there says it is up for demolition. Nearby buildings already gone. Including the one with the affordable jewelry store. I'm hoping they subway will have underground tunnels that cross Renmin Rd as before. So convenient. Bloody mess now. Hopefully Baishen will rise from the ashes again.One of the girls at Baishen just recommended a place up the road:

人27665;36335;1755号65292;27849;37117;28201;27849;.

1755 Renmin Road, Hot Springs.

Has anyone tried it yet?

Jay Bird

06-22-15, 01:19

One of the girls at Baishen just recommended a place up the road:

人27665;36335;1755号65292;27849;37117;28201;27849;.

1755 Renmin Road, Hot Springs.

Has anyone tried it yet?I ventured out to give it a test, but couldn't find it.

It seems 1755 Renmin Lu is a cluster of buildings.

Would be good if someone successful in finding this place could give some more detailed directions.

SanfranJon

10-17-15, 22:43

Hi guys,

Just returned from Suzhou. Could not find any of the places mentioned in here due to lack of address. Decided to roll the dice and call a BP ad: 0086 -XXXXXXX2313. No need to say the gal I pickup from lobby was not the one in the photo. But she was attractive and did not try to upsell. I booked an hour with her for 950 CNY. FS with CIM.

I am returning soon and want to find someone not in BP. Would love to stay at hotel with on-site spa. However, I need to stay at one of hotels around Jinji lake for biz. Any places near here (walking distance)?

Wabbittt

10-19-15, 22:14

As many people will know, the Baishen Spa off Renmin Road closed down recently because that part of town is being redeveloped. I have finally got around to finding out precisely where the girls from Baishen moved to. It turns out they are now based in a nice new spa about 10 minute's walk from the old place. The address is 1755 Renmin Road. However, it's not easy to find initially as it is actually off the main road, so here are some detailed instructions.

Go North up Renmin Road, keeping to the left-hand side of the road, and cross Dongzhongshi. Just after the shop numbered #1719 and a Bank of Suzhou, there is a parking lot with Pandora's Club located on one side of it. Turn left off Renmin Road at the parking lot, and then turn right into an alley and walk to the end of it. The 'New Baishen' is at the end on the left-hand side. I'll see if I can post some photos to make it clearer.

Once you get there, all the usual delights await. The girls are just as I remembered and, gratifyingly, some of them remembered me. The new spa is cleaner than the old Baishen but the prices are the same. RMB 298 is the going rate for a nice massage / he with tea and fruit thrown in for free. I haven't had time to sample the new place thoroughly so additional reports would be welcome.

Beijing4987

10-19-15, 23:51

Wabbitt,

You are a star. Thanks for finding Baishen. "Happy Days are here again, the sky outside is clear again!

BJ.

Wabbittt

10-21-15, 20:19

Wabbitt,

You are a star. Thanks for finding Baishen. "Happy Days are here again, the sky outside is clear again!

BJ.Glad to be of service, BJ. Hope you enjoy. I suspect there are also some new girls there but I haven't yet had a chance to check.

HeavyFuel

11-16-15, 13:19

Went to the Elephant hoping there was an off chance of good service. Instead, the girl simply rubbed oil all over, flipped, stroked and I was out in less than 30 minutes.

Time to let this elephant die.

Wabbittt

12-29-15, 01:13

I recently had an interesting new experience (for me at least) at the New Baishen. After the usual massage, cat licks, wash and flip, the girl I was with produced a foil wrapped package that turned out to contain a latex artificial vagina. She lubed it up and eased it over my dick while maintaining eye contact with me. It turns out to be highly effective. I defy anyone to last more than a few minutes with a sexy woman pumping you off with one of these while your hands are allowed to roam. It seems that these disposable items are now standard issue at this place. I wonder if they will catch on elsewhere?

AdaeLover

01-28-16, 13:22

I was near the Elephant today for a meeting, and I decided to pass by and see if it was still on business based on a previous report I saw. Number 3 was still there, but had an appointment, so I went with number 7 (no other choice). She is not as "friendly" as number 3, but much thinner (if that is something important for you). She still delivers "almost' the same performance as number 3. I guess Elephants have 7 lives.

Beijing4987

01-28-16, 17:38

#3 mat the El is Xiao Li?

ExpatLover

01-30-16, 16:56

It's in a separate building with a large sign on top, and hard to miss once you're in the hotel compound. Pick the entrance on the right side of the building, and once you're inside, sit down on the sofas on the left hand side of the lobby and remove your shoes. They'll hand you a key for your locker, and you're all set.Hello,

I lived 3 years in Suzhou new district (left in mid 2012) we always went to the bar street in downtown to spend some time with the girls and often taking one to the rooms. I will travel in March there, are this bars still open, thanks for your comments and advice.

DassaultGade

02-02-16, 18:30

Hello,

I lived 3 years in Suzhou new district (left in mid 2012) we always went to the bar street in downtown to spend some time with the girls and often taking one to the rooms. I will travel in March there, are this bars still open, thanks for your comments and advice.Yeaa. Still have all the girl bars there. Some gone, some new has arrived. You can always go to the classic Moon Bar. Enjoy some hours with Christina. She looks different than the others.

HamsJael

02-05-16, 17:32

Chinaescortcity.com

Anyone tried their service. If so, how was the experience?

ExpatLover

02-06-16, 09:43

Yeaa. Still have all the girl bars there. Some gone, some new has arrived. You can always go to the classic Moon Bar. Enjoy some hours with Christina. She looks different than the others.Thanks, in the past it was quite easy to take them home for a quickly or the entire night, is that still possible and what about the prices, any bar to recommend? Sorry for the numerous questions.

Dave1990

02-12-16, 07:35

Hello!

Long time lurker, first time poster.

I've been in Suzohu several years and have found some good resources that haven't been covered. I've been to the Elephant place many times too and yes it has gone down hill, but there are several alternatives. One of the best for me in recent weeks are Suzhou's Dance Halls.

A recent trip to Chengdu revealed an interesting thing in China, these pay by the dance dance halls. There are lots of them here in Suzhou to, and they make for great fun at a very cheap price. You can find lots of them by searching maps of Suzhou for "33310;21381;" (Wǔtīng). Let me give you a brief write up of them.

Generally you can pay a 5-20 RMB entrance fee and then go up to the dance hall, usually on the 2nd or 3rd floor. These places play every other song as fast and slow. During the fast songs nothing happens but a few girls will sometimes dance together or a couple or two who is actually there to dance will go out on the floor while the lights are up and everyone is checking one another out. During the slow songs are when the fun begins. The standard charge is 20 RMB per song but some 10 RMB per song places still exist too, but with older and uglier girls. At the start of a slow song the lights dim and the girls that are wanting to get asked to dance stand up and generally line up. You just check them out, touch the elbow of the girl you fancy and go out into the middle of the dance floor. Then for the next 4-5 minutes you basically hug and feel up the girl for 20 RMB. Each girl is a bit different and for best results get right into the middle of the dark dance floor so you can get your grope on without being seen. The girls are more willing to let you feel them up in the middle of the floor than on the edges too from my experience. Anyway, all of the girls will let you grab their ass over their clothes and rub their breasts outside of their clothes for the 20 RMB fee. It is quite exciting to go from girl to girl, groping and dancing.

Many of the girls will let you do more too, though it depends on the girl. I've had girls who will let me pull their skirts up and rub their asses over their panties and girls who will let me rub their pussies without complaint too. I've had girls who allow me to rub their tits inside their bras or even put my hand up inside their shirts too. Several have started rubbing my dick too while dancing which is great too, especially for 20 RMB.

For much more than that you need to speak some mandarin and while many of these girls are just there to earn a living for 20 RMB per song and leave it at that, some of them will go much further for a tip. After doing this for an hour once I was pretty ready to do and found a really skanky looking and somewhat older chick who was let me "dance with her" and immediately unzipped me and stroked me right there on the dance floor. She pulled her skirt up and shoved my hand down her panties to let me rub her pussy bare right there on the dance floor. She was wet as can be to and it felt so great I came right there on the dance floor. I gave her a 100 RMB tip (plus the 20) and she seemed happy and told me I could fuck her next time for 500 RMB, though I expect there is some room for negotiating.

Another time I found this really tall, hot girl who immediately started grinding on me and let me pull her skirt up and rub her clit while she stroked my dick and begged me to F her. She was hot and I was turned on so after the 20 RMB dance we met outside and I followed her to her small, dingy room where I did the deed without much fanfare or extras. It was 800 RMB but it was exciting and she did a good BBJ before the cover and the deed.

Again, for any extra action you'll need to speak some mandarin and be prepared for a lot of stares as there are no foreigners at these places. Also there are a lot of Chinese guys just milling around and I asked one of the girls why they come and just watch and don't dance and was told that a lot of guys are locals with no money so they come and watch and may dance one or two songs the whole visit.

I'm sure there is more to be had and I've had a wide variety of experiences. Here are a few of the places to try:

1) Guanqianda Ballroom. The easiest to find and has some nice girls after about noon. All of these places open from 6-8 AM and close at 10 PM, which is way too early if you ask me. This place is just east of the LE Qiao metro stop on Gan Jiang Lu. You will see the characters for Ballroom right over the top of it, located at 888 Ganjiang W Rd. You pay 10 RMB if I remember and then check your coat for free, then go in and go to the bar area to trade in 100's for a pile of 20's, and the girls are 20 RMB each dance. This place has some nice looking girls and there is one girl in a super skimpy white dress that has big boobs and is pretty young that isn't shy. I was able to pull my dick out and have her stroke me during the third song with her while rubbed her ass, she wears skimpy panties so rubbing her is pretty great. There are a lot of good lookers here and worth visiting. Another girl in a pink outfit that is basically lingerie that let me feel her up pretty good.

2) Mei Mei the Wu Ting just off of 31.3082321,120.605265 at Changxu Rd. There are lot of ballrooms on Changxu Rd, this one is the closest to GanJiang Lu and therefore easily accessible from the metro line. Also 20 RMB and this is where I had a girl in a yellow dress that honestly wasn't that cute that rubbed me off right on the dance floor. It is also open until 10 PM and has a ton of people here. This is probably the busiest place overall with a wide selection.

3) Blue Castle Ballroom: This one is up the street from Mei Mei's about 1 kilometer I guess, near the McDonalds by Shang Tang Jie, it is hard to find and has a blue sign just to the right of a 7 Days inn or a 99.com Inn, I forget which. You can find it by searching for "36716;36947;30707;36335;27493;34892;34903;30340;34013;22561;33310;21381;" on Google. This one had the tall lady that I followed to her place.

I would guess about half of these ladies are there to get tips and extras and half are there just for the 20 RMB per song thing and part timers with no experience in extras.

Others I have not tried but read good things about include 长26149;33310;21381; and 皇21518;33310;21381;. I have not tried others yet, but enjoy going for an hour or two before heading off to a massage too. This is a much different experience but very erotic in my mind.

Jsxyz

02-13-16, 16:26

California8

02-13-16, 23:48

Hello!

One of the best for me in recent weeks are Suzhou's Dance Halls.

I have tried dance halls in Chengdu and one in Dalian. Great report. I will try next time I get to Suzhou.

Cal8.

Jay Bird

02-25-16, 02:18

Hello!

Long time lurker, first time poster.

I've been in Suzohu several years and have found some good resources that haven't been covered. .Dave,

Excellent report and really great to see someone bringing something apart from the Elephant to the table. I've been to dance halls up north, but never here in Suzhou. Will try!

May I ask, are you a Caucasian looking man? How is that received at these events? If would go there I assume I would really stick out.

Is there any chance to take some of the girls back home? I guess after some groping I would definitely want something more.

JB.

Narcissistic

02-26-16, 07:48

Dave,

Excellent report and really great to see someone bringing something apart from the Elephant to the table. I've been to dance halls up north, but never here in Suzhou. Will try!

May I ask, are you a Caucasian looking man? How is that received at these events? If would go there I assume I would really stick out.

Is there any chance to take some of the girls back home? I guess after some groping I would definitely want something more.

JB.Hello all,

I have just spent a couple of days in ballrooms, as a first timer.

Quite frankly, they rock!

There is a real mixture of girls, from ugly to stunning.

However, some of less attractive girls are far more attentive! The stunner can be a little too reserved.

I am Caucasian, 6'1, and stand out like a sore thumb, but nobody seemed concerned. The girls are just curious!

I don't really speak any mandarin, but managed to Wechat some of the girls, just ask!

General fondling is totally available, and under clothes is totally acceptable, even a he, although would be a little messy!

I have been to 1 and 2 on the list below. Mei Mei was better, a little darker. It is next to the Giant Cycle shop on Changxu Road.

20 Rmb seems the standard fare. But pay more, get more! I have found if you repeat with the same girl the action gets steamier. First day, tried lots (child in a sweet shop! The next day picked one and just keep going, very receptive.

Take outs are available, just need to ask (wechat works), prices will vary some of the best being up to 1000 Rmb, but at least you get to sample the goods first.

Happy hunting! Like fishing in a barrel.

AdaeLover

03-23-16, 06:22

Following the "trend" I decided to visit the ballrooms in the last 2 days.

The Experience was quite good.

Guanqianda Ballroom. Was bigger and more girls in my opinion, but it is a more "amateur" environment. More light in the dancing floor and you get to do less things. Overall it was good to pick up a few wechat contacts and go a bit further. It is definitely true, the less good looking the more you get to do. (the less attractive one here opened my pants and roamed around on the first dance with her.

MeiMei. Harder to find, but not so difficult. In between the Giant Cycle shop and the Mart computer, only one door in between both of them. This place is very "pro". It is darker and smaller, but in the back of the dance floor you can do almost anything. I got a BJ (covered) there for 100 why, later I was offered the same service for 50.

I found one minus to the places, the amount of smoke is terrible. Don't bring anything that you plan to take to your misses later on tonight. Also, if you bring a dressing jacket on, it will be easier for the ladies to "play under it" without being so obvious.

Beijing4987

03-26-16, 14:42

This place opened last year. New and clean. 100 meters west of Jiangmen metro station. Foot massage and various menu offered. Spa menu starts at 129 for 50 minutes. 289 for 80 minutes. (I chose this as it seems to be the threshold for oil and happy ending) Two higher offerings at 389 and 489. Will ask a member to translate. Thr Chinese for these two. Now on to my service. Private room has bathroom with sink, toilet and shower. Wooden tub in main room. She offered to wash me in the tub after I had already showered,. Traditional dress and roaming proof leggings. Massage quite good. She had some moves I'd never encountered before, Finally got to rubbing my asshole a bit, but avoided the boys and Dick. Pulled up the blue underwear, washed her hands and rubbed my face and head. I was gou to ask " are going to jerk me off?" But decided to follow her lead. She's asked if I wanted it and demanded 300! No! 200? No! 100 I say. She says Ok, but raises two fingers again. A firm No from me again. She was good, made me spill quickly enough. As I went into the bathroom. She asked for her tip as she wanted to split and not return. Gave her 150. Compared to The El and Baisheng the only advantage is a newer clean environment. I want at least some roaming to justify a tip. Xiao Li #3 at El gets pretty much nskec and titty sucking and a bit of DATY is available. Bsishen gals allow roaming, although I've not been to the new location.

Beijing4987

04-01-16, 15:00

Met a fellow member face to face after sending PMs Decided to meet near the "Elephant" spa, also know as The Butterfly on their business card. We renamed the nearby restaurant where we met for dinner: "Elephant Fresh" Thanks to him for finding and introducing the Suzhou ISG group to The El.

Dave1990

04-18-16, 02:37

So the Dance Halls are still pretty fun, I have enjoyed going there and will keep going. I find the afternoons are best, very easy to have your pick of girls and lots of them are just grateful for being picked at all.

To answer an earlier question, yes I am a typical white guy, 6'2" American and somewhat overweight. The girls don't seem to mind and all say I'm handsome, which is just good psychology on their part. Anyway, it is still a little unnerving to go it alone into these places filled with only Chinese, but my biggest problem is that I can't seem to get over wanting to make an impression with these girls as being a "good guy" so I don't let my hands roam as much as I want to. I speak Mandarin pretty OK and I talk to the girls and sort of try to get to know them, when I should just be groping. I guess in a massage I feel like the girls know what I want and I know what they are getting but dancing is more of a romantic sport and I can't help feeling like a dirty old man sometimes.

Anyway, please report back on other experiences and any of the other dance halls.

By the way I was in Xi'an a couple of months ago and typed in the WuTing characters on my map app and found 5-6 of them there, the one I went to had you pay 20 RMB and sit on a couch that was sort of assigned to you and the songs were 10 RMB each but they were super short and had all these bouncer looking guys everywhere and the selection was pretty poor. I'll try this in other cities too and report back, but Suzhou seems to be very good pickings compared to the other Dance Halls I've tried elsewhere. Lucky us!

One other quick review, those of you in SIP, on SuHui Road between XingHan Street and XingYuan Street there is a place called "Garden Health Spa" or something like that with green signage on the north side of the road. It has a 398 RMB massage that is one hour with he included. I have tried #99 who was great but didn't return after Chinese New Year and had #22 who was pretty good, she was cute and didn't do enough during the back rub to get me going, but she had some good mouth moves on the flip that got me going and I'll return. I will try some others there too.

They have a card you can buy there for 1000 RMB to get 200 RMB free, so you can effectively get 3 massages (400 RMB ach) for 1,000 if you buy the card. 333 is kinda spend compared to the Elephant, but the rooms are nice and you get a better service.

Marelobo Mex

04-30-16, 15:29

Guys,

I loved reading your dance hall reports, I am going head to Suzhou in a couple of weeks and try them out.

I have some worries since I don't speak Chinese.

Anyone interested in meeting up and helping each other out, send me a PM?

Dave1990, I tried to PM you and it didn't work, can you send me PM.

Mare.

KamKat

05-22-16, 22:33

Hi,

I am visiting Suzhou too in 2 weeks or so, I have a question is dance hall available in all cities.

Like Guangzhou, Yangzhou, shanghai or is it unique to Suzhou? And how to I find them online.

I have zero Chinese language skills.

Thanks guys.

Guys,

I loved reading your dance hall reports, I am going head to Suzhou in a couple of weeks and try them out.

I have some worries since I don't speak Chinese.

Anyone interested in meeting up and helping each other out, send me a PM?

Dave1990, I tried to PM you and it didn't work, can you send me PM.

Mare.

Dave1990

08-07-16, 11:45

I have a long-time girlfriend here in Suzhou who I met at a massage place, she is quite pretty and about 35 years old but still an amazing body. She has recently started having fantasies about letting one of my work colleagues fuck her, but of course I can't do that without risking my work, so are any of you interested in helping her out?

You would get to have her for free and just pretend to be my work colleague. She doesn't speak any English but I speak Mandarin well so that is no problem.

You should be a relatively handsome foreigner who speaks good English. She may well be someone you recognize if you have been to the massage places. She has never done this before and isn't a prostitute, but she wants to try two men at once for the first time. We would be taking her in turns and I would be there in the room participating, at least the first time. She really wants to have me wait in the other room and just listen to really make me jealous later. Please PM me directly. If you are not a member, come on, sign up to PM me and we can exchange contact info. There may well be repeat opportunities if she likes it. I can send photos and video of her too, but not of her face of course.

I have been with her a long time and we will be looking to get together with you in September. Patience.

Jay Bird

08-11-16, 03:27

Hi,

Thought it was my turn to give some feedback on the dance halls. I have only been to MeiMei on Changxu Lu, but I've been there more than 10 times.

I think this is an interesting option to the sex scene around. I normally try to select 1-2 girls and stick with them, returned business gives more opportunities for added fun. The more beautiful ones are normally in front of the bar close to the entrance door, and further back are the less beautiful / older ladies. All the way in the back are some hookers, but they are really so disgusting looking that I don't want to touch them.

You can get a BJ in the back, I've never tried that though.

The dance halls are highly recommended, though you need to be able to speak some Chinese to get anywhere. The girls are always a bit reserved until they understand you can communicate. There more Chinese you speak the more chances of fun.

I'm starting to be tired of MeiMei and want to start searching for alternatives. As I live in SIP it would be good with something closer to SIP.

Dave1990

08-11-16, 18:11

I'm starting to be tired of MeiMei and want to start searching for alternatives. As I live in SIP it would be good with something closer to SIP.Try 888 Ganjiang W Rd, it is right off the LE Qiao metro station and closer than Mei Mei's. It is the closest to SIP unfortunately. It is much bigger than Mei Mei's and has some fun ladies too. I don't know about getting BJs there but you are right that repeating with the same girl on multiple occasions gets you more, and that speaking the language helps a lot.

Another interesting thing is that if you go on the weekend or especially public holidays that these places will not only be packed but that a lot of the girls will just be normal girls that are there for some extra cash for the day. This isn't a regular job, they just pay the fee and go in like everyone else, and then make money for being there. I have met several girls that are going to Suzhou University at the 888 GanJiang West (GuangDaWuTing) location. They are fun to feel up because they are quite shy. You can often spot them because they don't stand up for the slow songs but sit and wait for you to ask them while seated. Often their friends will giggle or look shocked that the foreign guy picked them out. The whole thing is quite crazy.

We are really quite lucky to have so may options, there are a lot of dance halls and that is very rare for China, many cities don't have them at all.

Ace Dks

08-19-16, 06:59

Beijing4987

11-11-16, 14:03

Went to the El today. Was keeping in touch with Xiao Li There via Wechat. (she's wild about me, of course) Price went up 30 rmb to 298. #3 is a pro with liots of massage ans happy endings under her belt. She will remove most of her clothing. The new Baishen is next on my list.

SamCan

11-11-16, 23:25

Beijing4987

11-11-16, 23:36

Sam, clear your in box and send me your email address via pm. Our mistress is still active, and you forgot her birthday!

SoulStar143

11-15-16, 08:49

Hey gents,

So like the title says I'm new here in China. I stay in Suzhou, SIP. Can anyone recommend me a couple of girls to come to my Hotel room. It's been a while and I need a release. Preferably not to old and with good body. Please let me know.

Thanks in advance.

Soulstar

GunsAndRoses

12-01-16, 09:35

Jay Bird

12-07-16, 06:21

Just been to the small massage parlor in the Japanese street in SND near ShiShan Lu. Not in business anymore. Facade is the same but the glass doors were replaced with a metal door. It's sad. Suzhou is getting really dry.Ouch, that's a pity. Been there many times, they even had FS on the menu.

Now I hardly no any good places in Suzhou for fun anymore. I have started to go to the dance halls. It's fun and interesting, but it's still not the same as a good ol' screw.

KnightUK10

12-14-16, 00:29

Hi guys,

Anyone have any recommendations for outcalls in Suzhou? Nice GFE.

Any recommendations please PM me.

Thanks.

Pushkin13

12-27-16, 09:13

A former colleague tells me that several weeks ago he (Canadian, Mandarin speaker) found a FS spa near the centre of Suzhou. Price: not too expensive.

I can pass on the information to SENIOR contributing brothers who may be visiting Suzhou.

You will need reasonably good Mandarin language skills and a QQ account.

Hope that this helps.

Cheers.

P13.

DassaultGade

01-30-17, 21:40

What can I say. Love Suzhou. Yet another girl from WeChat. Talk for few days. She said she haven't made love for long time, and I told her I could help.

She came over 4:30 am. A Wednesday morning. Simply came over to suck dick, and to be fucked. Sooo. I helped her. Two pops. One when fucking her. One in her mouth later (just after the pics were taken). Candy everywhere in Suzhou.

(Pictures in the Chine pic forum).

Beijing4987

03-11-17, 00:30

Anybody still here in Suzhou. I'm looking to go to the new Baishen MP. Any recommendations. Xiao Li from the Elephant is at the "Golden Door" MP. She says it's high class. 299 for massage. West of RenMin Road.

SamCan

03-21-17, 15:29

I'm at the Suzhou crown plaza. Couple girls wandering the lobby willing to follow you to your room for a rub and tug. I didn't ask the price as neither was very hot. Anyone know the scene near here if there is one? There is an outsourced spa in the basement. The massage price is pretty high which means they would charge crazy money for a tug if they did it. Unless someone knows more than I do? Anything else on the menu there?

Provide what you can. PM me. I'm known to help bros in need when I can.

ExpatLover

03-21-17, 15:54

Beijing4987

03-24-17, 10:09

Finally made it to the new Baishen Spa location. Clean, but the rooms carpets are getting dirty already. Big pool with TV set if you like sitting in funky water. Verified at the desk the 298 price, but girl tried to upsell to 398 for the same service. Next time I'll ask if the price upgrade trsnslates to more access to the why. I had a girl (#90) I'd seen at the old location. She would not allow any roaming beyond her lovely breasts before, so I kept my distance. One gal did allow pretty aggressive FIV at the old place. 90 does a lame massage but pro hand job. Really pretty and georgeous large breasts to fondle. Fake moans at a minimum. A hood massage is to be had at The Elephant near Xinghai Square.

PrinceMV2

04-04-17, 10:13

Hi,

How far is sujhou from Shanghai? Please suggest if its ok to reach by bus or train from Shanghai.

Thanks.

Pushkin13

04-05-17, 10:15

Hi,

How far is sujhou from Shanghai? Please suggest if its ok to reach by bus or train from Shanghai.

Thanks.Suggest you look at a map! That thin grey / gray line is a train line. Very fast! More than 300 km per hour! Very exciting! To get to Suzhou you can catch the train from HongQiao (Rainbow Bridge) or Shanghai (North Shanghai) (Before Sea / Ocean).

Enjoy and report!

P13.

Beijing4987

04-09-17, 00:21

Went to the El for a rub and tub. The skinny girl there only gave a so so rub and adequate shot at the airplane. Did not even give me a full 70 minutes, because dinner was waiting in the lobby. 298 now, up from 268. They have a 398 service at 80 minutes. So with this provider you get ten more minutes of lame touching for 100 rmb more. They need a 30 minute option with only happy ending only. I have received good oil massage there for years. Next time I'll get in tough with Xiao Li or go to Baishen, where the massage is also lame but the view better.

Wabbittt

04-29-17, 15:26

I've just stumbled upon a new massage place. Sea Gold Spa. That has potential. During the day, there seems to be only one or two girls around and they are not great. However, it livens up a bit at night and the girls look hotter. The rooms are a bit ropey but the girls wear various uniforms and offer a hot tub experience as well as catlicks, tit-fucks and BJs. Cost is RMB498.

It's just to the west of the Old Town and close to Tongjing Road North Metro station (take Exit 3). The address details are as follows:

Sea Gold Spa 彩39321;36335;4号28023;20134;34164;.

Caixiang Road No. 4 near Tongjing North Road Metro (exit 3).

Beijing4987

05-01-17, 17:41

Thanks for finding this place. Wabbitt! When I asked about the price 399 was mentioned. I countered with 498 because I wanted to make sure a BJ was included. It was. Room not bad. Big bed. Big shower. #5 from Shandong was my provider. They asked before if I wanted the shorts. Nice cloth shorts and top were provided but not used. She requested No CIM. Typical soft, lame effort at a massage, focusing on it being erotic, rubbing breasts and cat lick. Corn candy used for fake rimming. Hot water BJ nice, but opted for a hand finish. Hoping to go in the evening and find a more experienced BJ provider I should have been hornier, but was in town and wanted to check it out. Too bad #90 at Baishen does not do BJ. She's georgeous. I asked about the pricing structure at the desk as I paid up. 199,299,399,499. I'm thinking 299 and 399 involves a handjob but no bj. Will ask the girl next time.

LukeSkyWanker

06-09-17, 02:59

I paid a visit last night to sea gold spa and enjoyed the experience, easy to find as stated, turn left out of exit 3 and left again at next intersection. 500 rmb paid as expected, good service.

May the force be with you.

LukeSkyWanker

07-12-17, 21:14

Tried the above Ballroom as reported on the forum, Thanks guys for the report! Had a great time there on each occasion I visited 20 rmb for a fondle on the dance floor anything goes. Just before closing time got dragged to the dark area at the back and had 4 women all over me at once, 1 got on top and shoved my dick straight in while the rest sucked my nipples and held me down. I was a little concerned because I was bare back and these girls do a lot of business, but it was fun.

Gave them 20 rmb each they tried for more but not too forcefully.

Anybody want help or more info just ask.

May the force be with you.

Kinky Ginge

07-14-17, 06:30

UhhCanJengo

07-16-17, 10:01

Recently moved here to Suzhou indefinitely for work. Looking for escort for hotel meet-ups, new to this scene. Would appreciate guidance!

Pushkin13

07-18-17, 08:51

Recently moved here to Suzhou indefinitely for work. Looking for escort for hotel meet-ups, new to this scene. Would appreciate guidance!1. Learn Chinese.

2. Go to bars and make friends.

3. Using a dating / contact app. WECHAT might be your best bet! Use the "look around" function.

4. Enjoy and report.

P13.

Kinky Ginge

07-24-17, 03:07

Been in Suzhou a few years, but up until last week I have avoided the Elephant due to the negative reviews. Given the reviews expectation was pretty low, so I was presently surprised with the service.

The place isn't opulent but it is clean and tidy, the girl pretty decent looking with a nice figure.

Not the best service I've had, but very agreeable.

A little pricey at 390 something rmb.

80 minutes that weren't clock watched or rushed, the service peaking in the middle between flips and the massage continuing for 30 minutes until time was up. Roaming was encouraged, which was nice.

For me the place didn't live down to its poor feedback, I could have been luck with the girl I suppose? It is all subjective and down to personal taste, but I would go back.

Jay Bird

08-15-17, 08:56

Throwing a question out there, do any of you guys.

Have experience of the happenings and prices at and around the pink lighted windows / doorways just of Dong Huan Lu.

Is the area dangerous from police and or pimps, what are the prices, what's on offer?

I'd guess it would be very low rent experience but an experience all the same, some of girls looked pretty decent.

Thanks guys.Kinky,

Prices for such service should be 150-200 RMB. The better your Chinese the lower the price.

Area would not be dangerous, as soon as the Mama's feel something's wrong they'll close the door. They have commections.

Could you share the location with us? Where in Dong Huan Lu?

Wabbittt

08-25-17, 02:38

It seems that the 'New Baishen' spa has had to move temporarily as the area it was in is being re-developed. Fortunately, my contact there gave me the new address and, while it's a bit of a trek, it's well worth it as, in addition to the original Baishen girls, there are some stunning new ones who also make the journey very much worthwhile. The new address is as follows:

也21487;20197;26159;19996;21556;4南36335;1255号.

地38081;31449;24212;35813;26159;21040;28548;28246;36335;19979;.

Dongwu South Road, No. 1255, Opposite Suzhou Kangli Hospital.

If you take the subway, aim for Shinhu Donglu Subway Station (Line 4) and take Exit 1. The place in question is at the left-hand end of a block of shops. On entering, and exchanging your shoes for the inevitable sandals, you need to go up the stairs to access the changing rooms and spa area. The massage rooms are on the next floor up. The staff there are vey welcoming although I get the impression that they have never encountered lǎowàI before.

Wabbittt

08-25-17, 02:42

Here's a photo of the new 'New Baishen' place. It's at the left-hand end of bloc of shops.

Beijing4987

08-30-17, 18:24

Any chance the windy weather will spill over to Suzhou?

Onojdi

09-24-17, 17:54

Thanks Wabbittt, much appreciated!

Because of the storm at Shanghai maybe I'll prefer to visit some of the Suzhou places before the trip to my favorite city. Sadly I'll be only one night at Suzhou and at the same time I want to try both New Baishen and Sea Gold Spa. Maybe one at the evening and one in the next day. Do you know when they start working? This reminds me of one very funny visit to a Hong Kong MP at 10 AM but it is a different story.

Can you help me with a little bit more info? Do they offer full service or Nury / Oil massage? Or just regular not so good massage with a happy BJ ending? One more thing. The last time when I was in Shanghai I got some strange "extra" called fire & ice massage. I have no idea how the girl do it but it was very unique experience. She do some tricks with her mouth including ice and hot water or something like that. I was thinking to try it again in Shanghai but I just read that there is a serious storm right now and its better to go to Hangzou or Suzhou. I did not find much info at the Hangzou forum so I'm pleasantly surprised that there is 2 MP in Suzhou. Both of them know thanks to you, so a very big thank you from me.

Lemurian

09-25-17, 05:23

Any chance the windy weather will spill over to Suzhou?Yes; partially happened already. Be careful!

CoconutWater89

10-09-17, 07:03

Hey guys,

I've not been mongering for a while (GF and all that), but I have a few relatively recent reviews and spots new Suzhou dwellers might appreciate.

1.) The dance hall near Leqiao Station 888 Gan Jiang Lu (forgot the name): Very good. There are some truly breathtaking specimens in here and the male competition is pitiful. If you are remotely not disgusting / elderly they'll be thrilled if you ask for a dance. From what I've sussed out, there are a handful of girls who are employed "by the house" so to speak and have an obligated schedule. Then there are a few girls who just pay the normal entrance fee. The girls in the former category want 30 RMB per dance. A lot of them are extremely beautiful 8 or 9/10's. I never tried to get anything extra, but was propositioned by one early 30's girl who was just okay. Definitely strongly recommended. No soap in the bathroom which is quite gross for a tightly packed place. Turnover also seems remarkably low; you'll see the same crowd and they'll get to know foreigners with distinct appearances.

There is one girl here who speaks perfect English and works a real job at a foreign company during the week and spends some time on the weekends for extra money. She will find you if you look remotely western, no need to look. She can pick out Japanese / Koreans somehow too. She told me a lot about the place and the girls; most girls are pulling in 300-700 rmb per day! The very top end ones there are averaging over 1 k and have some 2 k days. The tall one with the enormous fake boobs has many 2 k RMB days every week.

2.) MeiMei Dance hall: Only went here once, it kinda sucked. Very smoky indoors, lighting sucks and it's hard to see the girls even during the fast songs. I went on a weekday afternoon and there were about 2 very pretty girls. I picked an older and very curvy one. She had an extremely think country accent in Chinese I couldn't understand. She tried to have me pull out my phone so she could tell me, but literally couldn't write in pinyin despite being under 35. Let me get away with a lot more than the girls at the Leqiao station one. I'd say the probability of getting some action quickly is much higher here though.

3.) The "pink lights" near Donghuan lu station: How do you find this? Exit the donghuan lu station in the direction of Fengmen Lu. I forgot which exit, but you're walking south on the west side of the road as if you were headed to the SuDa campus near fengmen lu. Anyway, you'll see a sign near an Alley advertising massages with English. It's literally sticking out of the ground. The very next alley after that has a small pink light district. It is an absolute ghetto craphole, one of the poorest, grossest, and trash filled places in the area. The girl quality there is very low and mixed. There's a handful of hotties; all of them refused foreigners. They were asking for 300 RMB. Really shitty rooms and no showers. I'd have trouble fucking most of the girls there with somebody else's dick, but there's a handful of gems who will probably tell you to go away if you're not Asian.

4.) The street opposite "Super steak" at the Yunhe Lu and Yushan Lu intersection in SND. This was my favorite place. Girl quality is much higher than the donghuan lu one, and prices are literally only 150 RMB. There are a handful of not so good girls, but also a handful of devastatingly hot girls. On the west side of this street there are 3 shops with super hot girls; they usually turn me away and say no foreigners or "tai the LE! But I had a few who obliged. If you're Asian looking you or got a smaller unit you could have a real field day here. Some of the hotter girls can be bitchy, pushy, or hurried which kinda kills the experience. On the east side nearest the intersection, the girl quality is a bit lower but still hot. A handful of these girls were extremely friendly and I actually became friends with more than one of them and hung out outside of work / got an occasional freebie / went out for a meal etc. Laoban is a relatively chill old dude too. Traffic has been surprisingly low here. Turnover for girls is pretty high, but there are a handful of late 20's / early 30's old veterans. They all do covered BJ and FS. Rooms are great, girls shower + brush teeth regularly, lots of space.

5.) The area right next to Emerald City. This was my second favorite. In contrast to the previous 2, there seems to be a lot more activity at night and relatively quiet during the day. You won't see girls in windows most of the time, but rather you'll have to follow one of the 3-4 mama-sans trolling around. One of the mamas is pretty damn hot, but off the menu. Girl quality is consistently very high here, but rooms are a little bit crappy / cramped. Prices are always 300, but I've gotten some down to 200 for repeat visits and had one girl give a free round 2.

6.) 3 Massage parlours: The first is near the Fenhu Lu station west across the street from the foreign language school. It's got a big bright pink light that says "spa". This one is weird. Turnover is high, girls sometimes give covered BJ for 300, sometimes just HJ, sometimes will ask for more for FS. Usually pretty hot girls though.

The next 2: Jinfeng Lu station, exit near the vanguard and KFC. Keep walking past the vanguard and there are 2 massage places right next to each other. A lot of variance here too; some beauties, some awful 40 year old chubby country girls. Service is always massage+HJ. Had some of the worst and best here.

One last piece of advice: Height is a big deal for men and women in China. I'm an average height western guy. I've found that taller Chinese girls (5'7+), even the ones who aren't so pretty, are usually not the greatest providers. Even among non-pros, they are kinda stuck up and have an inflated self esteem. Shorter girls, even if they are extremely hot, seem to behave like they're 2-3 points lower than they actually are! The girls who gave the best service / gave freebies / wanted to hang out outside of work were literally always well below average height. I think they're somewhat ignored by Chinese guys who consider tall to be beautiful. The tall girls are kinda just sick of it and their pussies are sore so they kinda want to get it over with. I think you might be surprised how much traffic a tall but average looking girl gets compared with a short prettier girl might get.

Onojdi

10-11-17, 05:58

California8

10-12-17, 02:06

Hey guys,

I've not been mongering for a while (GF and all that), but I have a few relatively recent reviews and spots new Suzhou dwellers might appreciate.

Thanks CCNWater. This is the type of report I appreciate. Covers lots of different options for different mongers' tastes and has enough detail to find each place. I have no immediate plans for Suzhou but when I go, I will bring your report. Kudos.

Cal8.

CoconutWater89

10-13-17, 02:26

Thanks for the report.

The spa that is near the Fenhu Lu station, is it on the Zhuyuan Rd? And do you pay upfront for the service that you want or during the "massage" you bargain directly with the girl for extra service? Last question. What type are the rooms? I mean basic bed in dirty room, normal room with standard shower or spa kind of rooms with Jacuzzi I have been in different situations and found that environment is not related to the level of service but still curious about it.Yes, that's the one. Zhuyuan Lu and Fenhu Lu on the south side of the road east of the foreign language school, not west like I wrote. Just further east is Izumiya on the opposite side of the road, so if you see Izumiya you walked too far.

Rooms are actually the nicest I've seen at a massage parlour. I've only done a non happy ending massage at the Elephant, but the rooms at the Zhuyuan Lu one are actually way nicer. AC / Heating is really good; fun place to go on a cold and rainy day. You tell the front desk clerk if you'd like to pay 300,500, or 800. AFAIK 500/800 don't indicate BJ / FS, just time. You can pay afterword. I can remember them only once sending me a really ugly girl, who I turned down to wait for another one.

I never really negotiated with the girls; some of them just busted out the weird plastic bag thingy and started blowing or did so after I asked, others just went with the HJ or refused if I asked. Bring your own condom, because they use their own weird plastic bag thingy and don't have condoms at the parlour. I was offered full service once by one woman there who asked for 500 directly to her after I'd agreed to 300 at the front desk. That was about 2 years ago though now.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1t3ZHRzEo_ZPFcnOcpDQOYwmiIRM&hl=en_US&ll=31.27906225851629%2C120.54471639105225&z=16

If the link doesn't work, just google search "suzhou bbs map".

This thread is big and lots of dated info, but a lot of this stuff on this map which was posted here is still valid. A few things with regard to prices / quality have changed, though. The Tayuan Lu scene is pitiful now compared to 2-3 years ago; last few months only older women or fairly fat / unattractive ladies at the BBS there. There used to be some 5'0 southeast Asian looking girl from Xiamen who was really skinny and petite but with big boobs who worked there. I also remember the one near Yunhe Lu and Yushan Lu used to have one shop full of girls with huge see-DD cups and slim waists eager for business only 150 RMB; now that particular shop is closed completely and the rest of the BBS in that area are heavily under-trafficked with only 1 girl between 5 shops who shows up in the afternoon. By contrast, the area near Emerald City used to be kinda terrible with horror-movie esque rooms and girls with horrific hygiene, bitchy, and poor use of cosmetics. Nowadays it's really nice and consistently high quality.

These girls usually don't stay in those types of careers for very long, with the exception of dance hall girls. If you find one you like, milk it while you can because on average she's probably going to be gone in like 3 weeks.

I'd really like to check out some areas near Southeast Suzhou in Wuzhong district; I know some of the hot regulars from the Yushan lu and Yunhe Lu BBS strip moved to a red light area over there but I can't really go check it out.

Kinky Ginge

10-25-17, 04:26

Are there any directions, address etc to the RLD over in Wuzhong. If it can be found I'll check it out.

Yes, that's the one. Zhuyuan Lu and Fenhu Lu on the south side of the road east of the foreign language school, not west like I wrote. Just further east is Izumiya on the opposite side of the road, so if you see Izumiya you walked too far.

Rooms are actually the nicest I've seen at a massage parlour. I've only done a non happy ending massage at the Elephant, but the rooms at the Zhuyuan Lu one are actually way nicer. AC / Heating is really good; fun place to go on a cold and rainy day. You tell the front desk clerk if you'd like to pay 300,500, or 800. AFAIK 500/800 don't indicate BJ / FS, just time. You can pay afterword. I can remember them only once sending me a really ugly girl, who I turned down to wait for another one..

Beijing4987

10-26-17, 09:56

I got out at DongWu Road and ShiHu Dong Road. As usual there are few numbers on stores. #169, nothing close to. #1255. I need more details. Go left or right on DongWu Road.out of exit 1. I went two blocks did not find it. West Side, East side of DongWu Road? I guess I could have asked "where is the hospital. Could not find a reference on Internet.
HELP!

Onojdi

10-27-17, 11:19

Few days ago I was at Suzhou and decide to follow CoconutWater89 advice (thanks a lot for the tips) and to try the parlour near the Fenhu Lu station, but then I read that FS is almost a no option. I wanted FS and nothing less so decide to follow his advice and to go to the area near Emerald City. And I'm more than happy for that choice. It was a real adventure.

First the directions. Get off at the Tayuan metro station, walk on Dengwei road, then turn right on Changjiang road. Just before the crossroad at Heshan road there is a row of small chinese restaurants and shops. The area looks nothing fancy, it is a small street. Then walk slowly and expect to be approach by in my case young woman who will speak something about 300 yuan / quai. This is your guid. But at the street there was at least one more "guide" that was an old lady and my guess is that there is at least 1-2 more like them walking around.

So walk after her and enjoy the surrounding. You are waling through small local shop, dark alleys, really bad looking buildings and then will reach something like an dirty inner court. Then the door will open, you will enter in small pink room with few girls. In my case four. One ugly, one nothing special playing with her phone and two really really good looking young and nasty girls. I choose one, paid 300 yuan, follow her at really small room with a bed and almost nothing else. FS, great fun, not GFE but the service was really good. Then when everything is done, you realise that you are in the middle of a really shitty area, in really shitty house and want to get out as fast as possible.

Overall great experience with all the adrenaline and everything. So sad that I was less than 24 hours in Suzhou. BTW great city!

CoconutWater89

11-02-17, 07:15

Are there any directions, address etc to the RLD over in Wuzhong. If it can be found I'll check it out.I have them on another phone's wechat history. I'm going to go see how much it would cost to fix this phone; if it's cheap I'll do that and post the location right here.

CoconutWater89

11-02-17, 07:21

Onojdi

11-02-17, 17:12

I didn't have the chance to speak with the mamasan. She told me to follow her and start the crazy Halloween run while I was following her and enjoying the adventure of walking at that strange and scary looking little alleys and house passages. But yeah, she was a good looking woman. Thanks again for the tips how to find that place, it was great fun and lets say. Memorable experience that surrounding, atmosphere and everything It have its own charm.

Kinky Ginge

11-06-17, 04:35

I have them on another phone's wechat history. I'm going to go see how much it would cost to fix this phone; if it's cheap I'll do that and post the location right here.Nice one, can't wait to have an explore.

Thomas Jefferson

11-06-17, 14:14

Hi,

I stayed in holiday in Jasmine Suzhou, they offer in room massage, a nice girl came and after some negotiation I had a full service for total 800 rmb.

Very satisfied, total she stayed around 45 minutes.

Near the hotel are several massage or spa locations, all offer FS for around total 500-800 rmb. Service is OK. I tried 3 different all late night after midnight.

SexualHero

11-08-17, 15:58

SexualHero

11-10-17, 16:50

I finally visited the area around Emerald city. I just followed the advise from mostly from Coconutwater and TSurin. Many thanks to both of you. It did work. I wanted FS, and that's what exactly happened.

I will tell you some more details.

Directions: get down either at Tayuan Lu (Tayuan Road in Google maps) or Suzhou Amusement Land Metro (SAL) station.

I'd recommend SAL station, and take Exit 7. There is a small outlet of Family Mart (a local supermarket chain) just before exit 7 where you can buy condom, mint, etc.

There is also toilet facility at SAL (before you swap your metro ticket for exit). No tissues, squat toilet.

After exit 7, walk on Changjiang Road toward Emerald City. First you will cross Dengwei Road, then Emerald city. Cross the Emerald city, keep walking.

After a few more minutes of walk, and before Heshan Road, expect to be approached by the guide. This guide will take you to the fucking room. She is not exactly a mamasan. In my case, she was some 40 years old lady, a bit formally dressed, but not a fuck material.

If you look like non-Chinese, your chances of being approached by the guide are somewhere 99%. You will be approached by this waiting lady. She will show you 3 fingers, meaning 300 RMB ( USD 42). She doesn't speak English.

Just follow her. She took me to the room. The walking distance was nearly 2 min after we met at roadside.

I paid the 300 before bang the session to the guide. She immediately passed 100 rmb (or 200 not sure, but surely not 300) to the chick.

Chick assessment- 8/10. Quite nice experience. Around 24 age I suppose. Nicely dressed. Tight pussy. Tried many positions.

Including doggy. Nice body.

Condom. She had some weired condom. But I carried mine and used the same. The packet still had few left after we finished, and she wanted me to gift them to her. I didn't.

Room. Room was quite OK for a good bang session. Pink light.

Before leaving I added her in wechat. Will try to invite her maybe for a lesser price someday.

Overall. If you want full service, then this is the place to be.

Frankly, I liked this model of sex. We know what the deal is. I give her cash, she gives me pussy. No waste of time. Otherwise, often Chinese girls can be quite frustrating, especially if you try to bed them fast.

Enjoy Suzhou.

May the force be with you!

Beijing4987

11-12-17, 15:21

Where is Baishen Spa

There is No hospital on the map in the metro.

Dongwu South Road, No. 1255, Opposite Suzhou Kangli Hospital.

I walked all around this area again and could not find Baishen spa. Without a telephone number to call I'm reluctant to get in a cab. My instinct tells me I have a low chance of him finding it only with the address. It's down some dark alley on the left? Go north on DongWu Road from exit 1? Or south on DongWu road. How far is the walk? Last time a card was posted with the phone number. That phone number is disconnected.

Zhushak

11-21-17, 22:29

Hi,

Does anyone please know if this area near Emerald city would be worth visiting on a Sunday afternoon preferably or early evening / late afternoon.

Thanks.

MaddyJ88

11-29-17, 20:44

Will be travelling to Suzou in December and will be put up in a hotel on Binhe Road. Would be grateful if anyone can help me with some good spas with action near by.

Cheers,

JapanDa5

12-09-17, 17:59

I went to dong huan lu today, there were police blocking the alley way so it was pretty quiet. Does anyone know if this happens regularly? And when is it safe to go back?

CoconutWater89

12-11-17, 11:36

I went to dong huan lu today, there were police blocking the alley way so it was pretty quiet. Does anyone know if this happens regularly? And when is it safe to go back?Was told by a good friend that dance halls are requiring a Chinese ID to enter. I think there might be a crackdown going on.

Kinky Ginge

12-12-17, 03:57

I went to dong huan lu today, there were police blocking the alley way so it was pretty quiet. Does anyone know if this happens regularly? And when is it safe to go back?Looks like there's a wind of change alright. There's been an intermittent police presence around alleys off Duan Huan Lu for a while waiting at either end of the alleys, look to be checking ID cards. They've generally been around some early evenings and gone later at night. I passed by Last Sunday morning, knowing that it would be a bit quiet. Found not a one door open, all gone closed up in some cases bricked up. Could see that a lot of the doors looked have forced open damage, some just left open. Hoping that it could be just a day time clamp down, I went for another look the same evening, situation same. The pimp boys were also nowhere to be seen around. In the evening, I did notice a huge pile of what looked like old and damaged electricity consumer boxes piled outside one of the workshop at the alleys entrances, could be coincident although I doubt it. Looks to me like the alleys are closed for good. It a shame, was always a bit of adventure to be had down there.

Kinky Ginge

12-14-17, 01:56

More sad news chaps. The Pinky Light alleys off Yangzhitang Lu have suffered the same fate as those off Donhuang Lu. From the state of the shop doors looks like forced evictions have gone on. Boarded up, abandoned and gone.

Is there any confirmation on Dance halls and Chinese ID requirement?

Are there any other areas / activities in Suzhou now had the fun factor removed?

JapanDa5

12-25-17, 13:53

Anata

12-26-17, 15:02

Is there any confirmation on Dance halls and Chinese ID requirement?Long time reader.

It is difficult for Suzhou dance halls recently. Which is, Chinese ID checks at halls and dancing under the sun. Of course we like our dance halls dark, so sunny is not our favorite weather.

I would like to share one hall not discussed here before. No Chinese ID check.

It is the Tuanjie Bridge Dance Hall. Take the blue train to Tuanjie Bridge station. Using exit 3 and walk across the major road toward the shopping mall. Enter the mall and up the escalator to 1st floor. The dance hall entrance is simply "Wuting" is easy to see, or follow people that are enter and leave, opposite to the escalator.

Careful there is stairs going to a different dance hall from ground floor outside the mall but same building. This is the wrong hall. You need to enter the mall and go to 1st floor.

Entrance is 10 RMB. Change your 100 RMB to 20 RMB at the coat desk. One song is 20 RMB except older ladies, then may be negotiate to 10 RMB. Of course in the dark, you cannot see your own fingers, then age perhaps not a worry.

Then it is similar to other halls, older and less clothing, get more. Repeating same girl also more. Come early, so that others do not already take the young ladies that you want.

Many young and old, very powerful feeling from 6. 30 until 8. 30.

Others, but only hearsay:

1. Jinsha Dance hall. Also dark. Quality variable.

2. Lanbao Dance hall. Very energy. But lights are bright and maybe ID check.

3. Meimei Dance hall. Quiet. People have moved away from here.