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09-04-03, 05:41
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Le Baron
09-04-03, 11:49
Well, looks like I'm the first on this section.

I just came back from Suzhou on 3 September 2003.

It is a very nice and clean city.

I went around my hotel (Bamboo Grove Hotel) on foot and came to a street called š®ÓÔ÷ō. There are many massage places, bars, a disco, a Korean KTV.
I did not get to go in this time, since I had company and they do not care for that kind of entertainment. However, we did go in the disco to have a few drinks. RMB150 for 7 Bud Ice, lots of pop corn and a plate of fresh fruits.

I could see a few ladies waiting to get approached by men. They looked quite professional to my eyes. They also have a few closed rooms. I saw the lady servers going in and out of those rooms with new supplies of beers and some other drinks. The dress they were wearing really made me gaze at them. I think the rooms are like KTV rooms, but I am not really sure.

We left the disco and walked down the street. I could see from the road that in the bars many foreigners were sitting with some Chinese girls. I think that most of the bars have ladies to chat with male customers.

Well, I did not get to know Suzhou much this time, but I will be returning there quite often for business I think, and I will not forget to post reports.

Rebus66
09-04-03, 16:55
Can anyone help me out? I will be in Suzhou for a few weeks for a job and would like a good rundown on the scene there, including what I should expect to pay to play. I speak some Mandarin. I know Shanghai is close and have been there before, but I won't be able to spend much time there this trip, so I need all the info on Suzhou. I heard Suzhou girls were the prettiest in China.

Lucky888
09-14-03, 05:47
Was in Suzhou recently and about midnight, on the NW corner of Remin Lu and Shi Quan Jie, there is a Barbershop where I'm sure you can get action. There was a very tall (1.7m+) girl in a long red dress standing in the doorway. I was completely exhausted from drinking and dancing in a nearby bar on ShiQuan Jie, so I didn't even approach her, but she looked very nice.

The Gloria Plaza hotel has a sauna/massage with eat-in or take-out service available. I reported on this in greater detail earlier this year in the Shanghai section. Had in-room service for 600 all in (450 to girl, plus 150 house), but probably negotiated too hard, because service was poor.

There is no service in the Sheraton hotel massage. There are a few barbershops near it, as well as a happening disco called Casablanca on Xin Shi Lu east of Remin Lu. The disco gets going about 11 or 11:30pm.

There are several girlie bars (with "drink girls") along ShiQuanJie. That's the main bar street in town. Another bar called Tom's pub is next to the Friendship hotel and is supposed to be a good pick up joint.

I have previously posted a couple other reports on Suzhou in the Shanghai section. Search there for more info and a couple of strange stories. Thanks, Jackson, for giving Suzhou it's own forum.

SeattleGman
09-20-03, 04:00
There is a well lit massage place across from the Sheraton, but didn't appear to offer any services. One girl spoke english so I think if they did, it would have been offered. I think the massage was something like 30 RMB or something like that. Nice foot and chair massage for 45 minutes. I will the there in October so any posts would be appreciated also. Hopefully my business partner who lived in Suzhou will be joining me so I will post if I find some places for picking up girls.

Lucky888
10-05-03, 17:27
Gman,

The place slightly left of the Sheraton (as you walk out of the Sheraton) with the pink colors and the foot massage sign out front is basically legit; I've tried it.

When will you be in Suzhou? I'll be there in Oct as well. I have two areas I want to check out. But tonight was already called by a freebie that wants me (and was introduced by my KTV freebie that has left the country)....so not sure how much hunting time I'll have!

Lucky888
10-24-03, 19:31
Suzhou area -- Wujiang

I was in Suzhou earlier this week for the electronics expo they had. Aparently the rest of the world was in Suzhou as well...there were no hotels available, so I ended up in the next town south, called Wujiang. Stayed in the Wujiang Bingguan. Wujiang is a pretty small city. But where there's a Bingguan, there has to be outlets for the horny gov't officials who stay there.

So, if you ever end up in Wujiang, there is a cluster of BBS very near to the Bingguan. Walk out of the Bingguan's gates, turn left, go not more than 100m, and take the first right. The road has small hill you go up and over a bridge. As you get over the bridge, the road narrows to an alley and you'll see the BBS's -- about 10 within a block. Quality varied a lot as did the facilites. Since I was feeling picky and didn't find the right combination of girl and facilities, I didn't quote prices. For sure the first place on the right has a room in back with a proper bed and a door on the room.

Other than that block, I couldn't find much else near the Bingguan. Late at night about midnight I met a couple western guys in the Bingguan's disco/bar/KTV place. These guys had an apartment in Wujiang and said the Bingguan bar was one of the better places to hang out and meet the girls. The girls show up starting at 8:30pm...and the one guy had about a 7.5 cutie on his arms.

Hope this helps if anyone ends up there.

Lucky888
10-25-03, 18:45
Suzhou area -- Kunshan

Was in Kunshan (between Suzhou and Shanghai along the expressway) the other night and got taken out by a supplier after dinner. We went to what I guess you would call a tea house of sorts. It was located on Yellow River Road, sorry, but I didn't get the number.

Here's the setup:
From the street, this place was dark except for the neon Chinese characters above the windows. Walk inside, and you see a small bar with lots of young girls idly waiting around on barstools. There was one KTV type room downstairs. You go upstairs to a tea room with a traditional tea setup on the table. You can order tea or just cut to the chase. The girls parade in like in a KTV and you pick one. You can drink tea with them and get to know them, or just say you're ready, and they'll go prepare an individual "tea room" which is actually a room with small foam mattress.

She brings in hot water and ice water, and condoms in her jeans' pockets. You both strip, and the fire and ice BBBJ begins. We then fucked in all positions. The girl I chose was a 20 yr old from Jiangxi with a nice big natural D rack; rest of her body rated an unfirm 6 with a 7 face. Damage was RMB400 all in; I didn't negotiate, but this is what my hosts told me in advance.

All in all, I didn't consider the experience to be a whole lot different or better than a barbershop experience in a nice clean barbershop.

If you've never been to Kunshan before, well, I call it Little Taipei, because Kunshan is full of Taiwanese who have set up factories there. As my supplier confirmed, Kunshan is a little like Taipei was back before Chen ShuiBien was city mayor....i.e. full of mongering establishments.

Cheers and happy hunting in and around Suzhou.

Lucky888
11-01-03, 20:52
Suzhou--mixed bag of reports

Here are several observations and reports of varying levels of success in Suzhou over the past few days.

Location 1A: Just east of Renmin Lu at the North temple pagoda. There are several BBS along the south side of this road as well as a possible sex-bar. As you walk east from the pagoda on this street, the first BBS on the right (south side) does not offer FS. However, I got a very nice massage for 30RMB for an hour, with some 'outside the clothes' mutual touching.

Just past (east of) this first BBS is a bar with curtains and a dim entrance. Go in and there will be some girls downstairs. Pick and girl and go upstairs (or upstairs first, then choose girl). They have 3 or 4 rooms of various sizes upstairs (at least one is a KTV room). I couldn't get FS in the place with my girl; she only wanted to go out, and wanted 500 ST. I laughed and left, but not before the lauban wanted 100 for the room another 100 for the girl. Not recommended, but worth a try if you're in the area; YMMV depending on the girl, I'd guess. This place starts closing down anytime after 12:30am.

Further east of this bar are several BBS that are open late and have cute girls inside. I didn't try them, because I got sidetracked following a near-certain SW for 30-40 minutes one night, and when I found out she wasn't really interested, the shops had mostly closed or there weren't any cute girls left.

Location 1B. Diagaonally opposite the North Temple Pagoda (at the intersection of the above mentioned street and Remin Lu is a very pink-lit BBS on the west side of Renmin Lu that is open till about midnight. I got a very positive look from the girls when I walked by on my way to the bar mentioned above. When I came back after midnight it was closed. I'll try it next time. Also at this general intersection area I saw several cute girls in short skirts as it neared midnight. One pair appeared to get picked up by a local guy just lurking about.

Location 2: north side of Xin Shi Lu, almost one block west of Renmin Lu. There is a BBS here that is always open late, and has pink-lit "rooms" upstairs visible from the street. Taifei is 30RMB. I didn't get FS, but HJ was offered. I think I got the wrong girl, because I mistakenly said yes when they asked if I wanted "chao bei" I should have aksed for an mo. Might try it again.

Location 3: Across the street from the UBC coffee shop that is adjacent to the Sheraton hotel. Had a nice massage and HJ for 60RMB. Wanted more but couldn't get it. This was at the first of 3 BBS on your left as you walk south of Xin Shi Lu.

Lucky888
11-02-03, 18:30
Suzhou success in a bar!

Finally had a great succes one night last week. Strolled down the north side of Shi Quan Jie, walking east from Feng-something-Lu (the N-S street that is one block east of Renmin Lu). The first bar is called Sui Yuan. I eventually ended up in the next one, called Meng-something-bar. Sorry I don't remember the names better.

So go into the bar with a cutie and get one beer and one soda and we start chatting. I ask to see what's upstairs and took a look. Facility looked possible for doing the deed. Small rooms with sliding door with some clear glass windows, but overall very dark place. Back downstairs, the girl asks if I want to go upstairs for a massage. Eventually clarified that she wasn't going to give anything other than HJ, so I told her I should probably pay and go. Just then, another girl approched me on the side, and I used one hand to start rubbing her legs and crotch while I continued to talk to the first girl (and loudly tell her I wanted more than a "massage" if I went upstairs). Finally I pay the bill (RMB20 for my beer and 10 for her soda) and when I get to the door, the mama and my girl both say "change girl."

Had I not gotten good response from the 2nd girl, I would have left, but hey....another RMB30 to see if the 2nd girl would put out? Sure! She quickly asked if I wanted to go upstairs, and she offered a BJ when i asked 'what kind of massage'? So we went upstairs and I went to work. To make a long and fun story short, I ended up putting on my condom and having her sit on my member. She didn't want to do it initially but once I started DATY, she nearly couldn't get my member inside her quick enough. No talk of money, but I gave her 150 to keep it strictly commercial--especially since she was saying "wo ai ni" even before she sat on the little man. She was a bit surprised to get the money.

The best part....get this: after finishing, she took the condom and wrapper and tossed it out the window of the place onto some neighboring house's roof or garden!

Went downstairs, paid my bill of 50 room + 20 drinks and left, with her mobile number in my phone. We'll see if she wants to go home with me next time I'm in Suzhou.

Happy hunting in Suzhou.

Lucky888
11-22-03, 18:46
Just an update and more details on the place mentioned below where I screwed the girl in the bar. The place in Meng Yuan on Shi Quan Jie. I've been back to screw the girl twice since first report below. She has gotten to calling me and texting me a bit too much. She has even wanted to come to my hotel at 4 or 5am or whatever awful hour she gets off work.

I have also tried a couple other bars on the north side of Shi Quan Jie but no success.

There is a bar at the "end" of Shi Quan Jie (end of the bar area anyway), on the street that connects SQJ down to the Bamboo Grove Hotel. Anyway, this place is call the "<something> Flower" bar, and it has a great setup inside with private rooms. When I was there on a Friday night, however, there was only 1 girl about the place, and the owner/manager/mama was pissed at my curiosity/nosy-ness, and said "this isn't a museum." So I left. Somebody should check it out though.

TangZhen
11-23-03, 12:37
This is not about SuZhou but Wuxi which is close enough in my book. I had been there a few time so I knew where most of the places were. The main point of interest was the cat house next to the new district hospital. There are a row of BBSs behind a tall set of bushes across the side street next to an apartment complex. The last one on the right was the main one with quite a few girls, but definately not western friendly and I am quite sure I was the first long nose there. They kept trying to use hand signals for asking things and I would reply in pretty good Chinese what I wanted. It was pretty funny. They sent in a nice girl and had the pretty much expected service for 300 rmb. In fact it was 280 and I am sure I could have pushed for 250 but as a first time there, I find it best to go the extra couple of bucks as it makes the things much easier next time. The last 20 was the girl asking in a very cute way for the tip, as she was SO HAPPY about it, it made me LOL, and was worth 20 rmb.

There are also massage shops downtown near the Ramada, but can only get HJ there and costs 240 or more. There are a bunch of small BBS but they are bit too run down and the talent is only so so, so I would recommend going to the 'Xing chu yi yuen' and hunt around as that shop did have maybe 15 to 12 girls. If I go back I will do a bit more shopping there to see if there is any real good lookers.

Lucky888
11-26-03, 01:53
In recent times I have spent a few nights in the Suzhou Sheraton on different days of the week. There have consistently been 2-3 girls in the 2nd floor lounge that are there to pick up a guy. They seem to want 1500 overnight and 800 ST; I tried pretty hard to get them to go lower than that but failed....probably because they get business--I was talking to one girl when her friend returned (with a wet, just out of the shower hairdo) from some customer's room in the hotel. Within 3 minutes she had spotted another guy that walked into the lounge. Withing 1 minute of going to sit down next to him, they were walking off to his room holding hands (obviously he didn't negotiate much). The shorter of the two girls (who speaks minimal english) has a 7 body and 6 face; the taller slimmer girl with short black hair is an 8+ overall and seemed to speak more english though she didn't stick around long before darting off with her next customer. These girls tend to sit at tables on the half of the lounge nearer to the piano, and are easily identified by the soda on the table and their frequent "use" of the mobile phone (texting or just staring at it) when they aren't talking to a punter. The other day I saw them there as early as 8pm in the lounge.

Far East Andy
02-25-04, 06:16
Hi guys,

Just cam back from a day trip to Suzhou for business.

I normally take the train and get a good view of the wasteland in China, I guess not a good view after all.

Anyway after my business finished I headed back to the train station. There is one main road called Bei Huan Lu, come out of the train station and turn left (taxi) drive to the roundabout, the first exit will take you back behind the train station but the second will lead onto Bei Huan Lu. Drive past the bus station where the buses come out and over the next set of traffic lights.

Shortly you will see about 10 BBS all in a row with new wood surounds on the doors.
These girls just sit in the windows, and some cuties too.

I didn't have time to try but next time for sure.

If anyone else knows of this road or has tried please let me know.

Thanks

Far East Andy

Member #3428
02-27-04, 04:35
Far East Andy,

It has been a while since I was in Suzhou but I think the road is Renming Rd. Bei Huan and Renming cross at a light and Renming is the main road in Suzhou going North / South with Bei Huan going East / West. Let me know how the shops are incase I get back there this spring.

Tansak

Far East Andy
03-01-04, 10:38
Tansak,

To be honest it may be a while until I get the chance to try them myself, u could be ahead of me.

To be honest if I had the chance I would as going past in the taxi there was a load of cuties spotted, but all I could do was look.

Next time

Far East Andy

Member #3428
03-01-04, 22:20
Far East Andy,

Yes I agree, when I was there Suzhou had a lot of beautiful ladies walking around and in the shops I saw too. Unfortunately, my work takes me more to other cities now. Now I mostly spend all my time in Yiwu.

I'll be heading to Shanghai, Pudong in April. Pretty much my first extended time trip in Shanghai. If I'm not happy / lucky in Shanghai then I might take the trip back to Suzhou just to do some research.

We'll see what happens next month and I'll let you know if I go over to Suzhou. I've spent some time on ICQ and such so I have a few potential GFE for Shanghai. If not I better find some good take out / bbs etc... in Pudong or I'll be on the first train to Suzhou.

Keep up the posting, I'm learning from your folks posting about Shanghai !

Tansak

Member #1728
03-20-04, 00:46
I am actually working in Suzhou-China.

For guys coming to Suzhou and looking for some actions; plse go to Sichuan Street. This street is full of bars and majority of the bars have working girls in them. There is a bar called "Point Zero" at the end of street and there are a few good looking working girls.Just go in there and sit at the bar and soon one of the ladies will join you. There are rooms upstairs and generally, they would suggest you to go to the room for massage. The bar owner who is a lady speaks quite good english and she will help in any way. The going rate is RMB 400, which is around 48 US$. There is no bed in the room, but a cosy settee where the deed can be done. If you negotiate, you will get a BBBJ and finish off with FS with condom.

If you are looking for a freebie, try Dream Hollywood bar which is on No.299 SHIQUAN STREET and there, there is a live band , a bit like hard rock cafe style- but here, the competition is tough for freebies as there are a lot of foreigners on the hunt there.

As I discover more, I will post more.

Suzhou Worker

Member #1728
05-23-04, 06:24
Barber's shop scence in Suzhou is quite good as well. Been to a few barber's shop which offers a massage for RMB 50.00 Exchange Rate 1US$=8.21 RMB. Of course the massage is not what you would get in Thailand.

The scenario with the Barber's shop here in Suzhou is that you have to look around as not all barber's shop give full service. You will notice that some of them have quite young girls... These ones, you will just get a meagre full body massage. Generally, when you are on the main road , you will notice them sitting dehind glass sliding doors. You can have full service if you look for mature looking girls. Some of them will give you full service for RMB 200 and having different positions as well.

Some nice barbers shop could be found on the road side from the Suzhou train station if you are heading towards the Shuro District.

Will post more as I discover more.

Member # 1728

Lucky888
06-10-04, 18:27
A few months ago, I went to the Sheraton and had a high-priced massage one evening. Of course, there is no chance to have any action in the Sheraton massage room, but the girl was cute and by the end of the hour we had gotten to know each other and were pretty playful. Eventually asked her to come to my room when she got off work to hang out and "watch a movie". Said she finished work at 11 and would come to my room by 12.

Well, about 12:45 I was about to crawl in bed when the doorbell rings and there she was.

Although she was a little bit thick, she was firm and there a little mysteriousness in her eyes and smile that won me over. Before long there were two rounds of great sex done and we went to sleep. I woke up early at 6 or 7am and nudged her and she was compliant for round three. Slept for a couple more hours then had a fourth and final go before sending her off. She was dynamite when fucking, liked all positions and would quickly get nice and wet. For some reason, though, she refused to let me DATY her.

It was all good and well until it came time to pay. She wanted 3000 to start. I had told her shortly after she arrived that I'd give her 500 all night; though she understood she neither agreed nor rejected that. However, that didn't matter as it was morning and I needed to get going to a lunch meeting so, after much negotiation and her complaining that she had to give her mamasan more than 1000 (which I didn't believe) we settled at something like 1200 or 1500...I can't recall now it's been so long. When she walked out the door, though she was still smiling and looked happy. Too bad she didn't have mobile phone.

Anyway, she's 21 and from Zhejiang, and I can't remember her name. But if you go to the Sheraton gym in the evening, sometimes you can see the massage girls milling about the health club reception area.

Ratings:
face/eyes/smile: 8.5
body: 7
attitude and love of sex: 9.5 (10 but for no DATY)
worth 1200 or 1500 for four long, fun rounds: absolutely

Lucky888
06-10-04, 18:29
The previous picture was the in the morning just before she left. Here she is at night.

Lucky888
06-19-04, 11:39
Some BBS in Suzhou

There is a sure-fire strip of BBS's in Suzhou that I've driven by a couple times but been unable to drop into for various reasons.

To get there:
- it's on the south side of town
- take Renmin Lu south
- you'll pass over a good-sized bridge
- you'll come to an elevated road/freeway running perpendicular to Renmin Lu (think the name is Nan Huan Lu)
- turn left such that you're driving under the freeway
- go about 300-400 meters, and you'll see all the pink lights (at nighttime) on your left
There is about 7-10 shops there in all. They are open at least as late at 11:30pm (latest I've driven by).

Note that if you miss the turn under the freeway (and keep going south on Renmin Lu), you'll immediately see the large TrustMart shopping center on your left. TrustMart and the elevated road are the landmarks.

Again, I haven't patronized these shops so I don't know about services offered. But judging by the storefront appearance, you can bust a nut in one way or another.

Lucky888
06-19-04, 11:47
There's another strip of 12-15 BBS's on Feng Yi Jie, at the end of this street. All services are on offer for 150RMB.

At the end of Feng Yi Jie there is a large building with some restaurants, sauna and barbershop, massage place, and a large Taiwanese-owned KTV place (2nd or 3rd floor). Actually I think this whole area of Suzhou was built by Taiwanese money. I have had girls from the KTV before, but never tried the sauna, though it looks suspicious enough.

edit: Feng Yi Jie is in the south-east part of Suzhou, just near the Suzhou-Hangzhou expressway.

Lucky888
06-19-04, 11:57
A while back I stumbled out of the Sheraton at midnight or 12:30am to go out on the prowl. Ended up at Casablanca where I had great time grinding/dancing with simultaneously with 2 girls who were surely on E (didn't manage to get out of the club with them). But that's not he point of this report.

The point is that at that hour, when i passed the Sheraton's health club/gym/massage entrance, the door was open (it all closes at 11pm). Inside it was dark, so I walked in to have a look. A local guy was watching TV on the TV above the treadmills; he saw me and asked if I wanted a massage. He had a stable of 5 or 6 girls there in a small room in the health club. Looks were okay, but not stellar; spirits and attitudes were right. As I was in the mood for dancing, I passed, but plan to try it whenever I happen to get back there.

Isn't there anyone else who visits (or better yet, lives in) Suzhou who can give us all some hints? Member #1728 -- what have you found out there?

BTW -- On the above-mentioned trip, I didn't see the 2nd floor lounge girls that I previously mentioned.

Wicked SH
06-20-04, 02:52
I don't live in Suzhou but had a GF that lived there so when I was in town it was window shopping only but traveled arround. I think it is like shanghai, go out after 10 or 11 and any bbs that is still open is game. Some might have a no laowai policy same as SH but if you see a few girls dressed in heels and sitting waiting they are game. Oddly enough I haven't seen as many MP's arround.

I would like to go hit some bars in Suzhou with some of you guys I bet it would be a blast.

Member #1728
06-21-04, 23:45
Actually, there are a few places you could go. There is Dream Hollywood in Sichuan Jie. Been there a couple of times and it is packed with girls...which I believe are on the game... But the competition is strong there as well with lots of foreigners coming to the same bar.

At the end of the Sichuan Jie, there is a bar called Point Zero. In there, there is action. Have 5 or 6 working girls.. good looking... Been there a few things and the bar owner who is a lady speaks english very well. There are rooms upstair which are very clean... but no bed with a bid settee... Deed could be done comfortably... The girls are good as well with BBBJ-CIM. After that, she would clean up up and then, you can go for a second round. Damage RMB 400.

Lucky888
06-22-04, 08:12
#1728 -- at which end of Sichuan Jie is Point Zero located? east or west? Also, is it on the north side (I assume, like the other fuck bars) of the street or the south side?

Does the 400RMB get you both BBBJ-CIM *and* the FS after ? meaning two shots for 400? Paid to the girl directly? Any house fee for the room on top of that?

It sounds interesting. I'd like to check it out, but like to get your help on the above first.

Thanks.

A Fun Man
06-23-04, 07:29
There is a bar on the north side of Shiqun Jie, outside of Suzhou Hotel. The name of the Bar is Mi Lan Jiu Bar. The owner of the bar is a Shanghai lady in her later 30s. The bar opns till 2AM. There are quite a few girls in the Bar. Some of them are very nice looking. You can sit in the bar, or go upstair in the private room. Officially, they would not provide sex service. However, everything can be negociate with the girl directly. Or you can take the girl to your hotel room. The girls will expect tip from you and the owner may charge you room fee, but not always. Of cause, you have to pay for the drink for yourself and the girl. Any way, if you are looking for something cheap, that is not the place to go. If the budget is not the concern, and you are looking for typical Suzhou girls or Chinese girls, you can give a try.

Lucky888
06-23-04, 20:08
Fun Man -- If you have experience, please advise what are the prices for drinks, room and the girl's services in Milan bar? There are lots of bars on Shi Quan Jie, but prices are not at all universal.

Lucky888
06-23-04, 20:13
If you need a very good veggie (i.e. straight, non-sexual) massage, go to or call ABAB, which is across the street from the Sheraton and ask for Xiao Ling. It's 120/hr for in-room hotel massage; obviously less if you take the massage in the shop. Xiao Ling is a 21 yr old Suzhou girl w/ 3 yrs experience who gives an excellent and strong massage. One of the best I've had in China.

I know this isn't cheap by China standards, and you won't relieve the little man except with with your own hand....but, in my experience, truly good massage is difficult to find in China. Hence, I share it here. Oh, and there is a small young girl in the shop who speaks pretty good english in case you don't speak mandarin.

A Fun Man
06-26-04, 16:03
I visited Milan Bar more than two years ago. So I can remember exactly how much it charged for each item. If I remember correctly, the beer was about 5 - 7 RMB for you and 15 - 20 for the girl. The room charge is about 50 - 100. There should be chance to waive the room charge. The room was very clean and neat with a big screen TV and sound system for KTV. The girls wer on the tip. I did not go for the action at that time since I was not in the right mode. I just had a beer and ordered a beer for a nice girl. We had some nice talk for about an hour. I gave her a tip somewhere around 200 RMB for the companion. When we went downstair to pay for, to my surprise, the owner only charged me the drink, and gave the waiver for the room fee. It was the girl told me that they were not allowed to have x-action in the bar officially. But you could take the girl to the hotel for sure. I didn't ask the hourly rate and/or overnight rate.

Limeister
07-09-04, 20:04
Well, I visited the Zero Point Bar tonight on Shi Quan Jie. It was a nice joint. The lady behind the bar was nice too. She spoke pretty good English. I was suprised.

I got hooked up with this kinda chubby girl but she had nice large round tits so the fact that she was a little overweight was forgotten. Her name was Chin Ling or something like that.

Just had one beer and one beer for her (it seems mandatory) and then we headed upstairs for a nice karaoke session. All during the session we ended up molesting each other.

By the end of the third song she was humping my pole. The rooms were clean and quite large. I guess she took me to the bigger karaoke room. It was a bit uncomfortable on the couch but we managed to do about three to four positions before I blew my wad with condom.

It was a pity she didn't give me a BBBJ or even a BJ for that matter. So I am wondering if I got ripped off.

The damage was 400 RMB for the girl, 50 for two beers and 100 for the room. I kinda think 550 RMB was too much for what I got in service. What do you think? Did I get ripped off or am I just expecting too much?

Next time I would like to try a BBS since I have never been to one. I hope you blokes will be nice enough to help me out on this matter.

I'm gonna go to Shanghai tomorrow. I am hoping the waters are nicer there.

Lucky888
07-10-04, 03:36
Lime--
I think you overpaid, but I haven't been there yet. The girl quality and service would have to be sky high for me to pay that much for ST in Suzhou that was in something less than a nice hotel room. For 500 you can have a KTV girl ST in your hotel room.....far preferable.

Of course you have to pay for the beers (25 is at the higher end for Suzhou) but I've always negotiated 50 to go upstairs at other bars.

I've believe I haven't paid a bargirl more than 200 for an in-room fuck in Suzhou (though 300 or 400 is not abnormal in Shanghai). Usually in these places the FS is pretty quick, quicker than in a BBS. Anyway, I think the pay should be on the same scale as if you were in a BBS.

Then again, it's a lot easier to negotiate if you speak some mandarin.

You might try the bar on SQJ that I had mentioned before last November.

Member #1728
07-15-04, 00:35
Lime,

As you said..this is a nice joint. I am working in Suzhou and I go to this joint sometimes...If you happen to go there, do not take the Karaoke... There are other small room with sofas on the top where the deed could be done. Some of the girls there are really good looking and you must negotiate first. The first time, I went to this bar.. I got an excellent service with BBBJ CIM and after that, finished off with FS.. I really took my time and the girl was not in a hurry...Damage was RMB 400.

The second time, I went there, I took the same girl and she gave me an excellent service.I was very happy and I gave her RMB500.

Sometimes back, I was just out to another bar and then, hadn't evenough bucks with me... So, I headed to Point Zero just for a drink and then, to head back home. Arriving there, I bought a Tsingtao and the same girl came along and I bought her a Bacardi Breezer. She then asked the bar owner to ask me if I wanted to go upstair. I replied that I would love to... But unfortunately, I had not planned that night out, so I did not bring enough bucks with me. She answered to the bar owner that it was ok... She will allow me a free shot... I thought that she was joking... But she was not.. We went upstairs and had a good time for free. I believe that she did that because sometimes back.. I gave her a tip of 100RMB.

The best thing is that if you are a new comer..you need to negotiate the price first..They are open until around 4am. I remember, I went there once after leaving Tom's Bar, My usual girl was not there. But there was one.. with a black beauty spot on the forehead, she offered me full service for RMB200 only. I declined as I was very drunk at that time. But a good advice, negotiate first. And be nice to those chicks as well..You treat them well, they will will treat you well. For 100RMB tips...I got a free shot later. Saved 300Rmb.

But there are some good barbers shop around in Suzhou as well. 200RMB for the deal. Will post more on that as well once I get the street details properly.

Limeister
07-15-04, 11:46
I guess I am not so good with the negotiation skills. It seems I will have to visit the place again soon. When would be a good time to go. I was there at about 10:30 PM and there were not a lot of nice looking chicks. Maybe this is just my point of view? Well, I will try again later this week.

I have a question. If the BBS has two girls in it all the time, is open till late and they look bored all the time. Can I assume that it is a BBS that offers what I am looking for or am I just reading between the lines too much? No pink light.

Member #1728
07-16-04, 00:41
Well, it depends. I have been to barbers shop with 2 girls only and they did not offer full service sometimes and I have been to some which does offer. I do not speak Mandarine or Suzhou dialect, but I make myself clear well in advance what I am looking for. Chinese have a way of expressing themselves to show that they want the fuck sign by using their hand. It is by using your thumb and index of one hand and putting them together forming a round hole and using the other hand, you put one finger in hole and they will know exactly what you are looking for. There is no need to be shy as those girls are not shy as well. They will just tell you yes or no very nicely.

The road leading to the train Station have quite a few barbers shop offering full service for RMB 200. But no BJ. For you to notice the barbershop well, you should be on foot. Some of those girls from the barbers shop will even beckon to you sometimes. But do not expect a big room there. Small room available for fuck. Ok to empty the tank for a short time.

Happy Hunting

Stew2
07-18-04, 08:45
I'll be visiting Suzhou later this year for a few days for tourism. Any suggestions on a good medium priced hotel, maybe one that among other things is either girl-friendly or has good massage services.

Thanks for your help.

Lucky888
07-19-04, 12:00
Stew,
Try the Younger Central Hotel. I think it's 4 star about 65 or 70 USD per night and I've heard it has good services in the sauna, (but not been there myself). The Bamboo Grove is another possibility; rooms are okay -- it's China 4-star.

Limeister
07-20-04, 17:04
Hello All,

This is specifically aimed at all you speakers of mandarin.

It would be very advantageous to us non-speakers if we were taught the local vocabulary.

If you guys would oblige, what are the following terms in Mandarin? That way I could get what I want when I'm with a lady.

BBBJCIM
FS
Tits
HJ
Anal
Tit Fuck
etc....

Of course you guys are very welcome to decline the homework I offered but wouldn't it be nice to share the knowledge?

Thanks in advance.

Jack Spratt
07-21-04, 07:04
Limeister

Before someone else tells you to RTFF, a quick search of the China board will show this subject has been covered a number of times.

Always a good idea to do your research!

jack

Limeister
07-21-04, 21:41
Duly noted

Limeister
07-21-04, 21:52
Sorry about the previous post.

Well, I just wanted to say I had a pretty good time last night.
Met this nice 20 year old at a BBS near Shi Qian Jie. It's not on the main strip but on the ally where the Bank of China is. Cute as a doll and very tight tits, ass, pussy, etc. Didn't speak a word of English but managed to somehow get her number and name and convince her to come to the hotel for an over night stay. It did however take me 30 minutes to convince her to go out of the BBS and follow me. All hail the mighty RMB!!

All up I paid 500 RMB for the 2 to 3 hour session and 50 RMB tip. She looked happy when she left my room. I was happy at least. It's been awhile since I banged someone under my age. Don't get me wrong, 26 year olds are nice too but there is something about 20 years olds. Shit I sound like a dirty old man. I guess I am.

She was of the submissive type so I had to do everything but she didn't complain too much. She kept saying no but they were completely ignored. I have a tendency to go for a long time and shoot only once. I have never been able to shoot twice in a night. Oh well, I got a BBBJ. a long session with several positions and CIM. Didn't swallow though but that was OK.

I have posted some pictures of her. Really nice everything. If only she spoke a little more English I could have told her what I really wanted.

Lucky888
07-22-04, 10:51
Lime,

Nice photo. You're still paying a bit too much, but it looks like the quality was excellent judging by the photos you posted (though you could show us her face).

Next time aim for 300 or 350 total for ST in-hotel from BBS girln (i.e not more than twice the rate for doing her in the BBS). Do your fellow Suzhou mongers a favor....it is your responsiblity to keep in line with local prices. Study those numbers in Mandarin! Hint -- the best way is to find a girl who can speak a little and have her teach you. Drinking and dice are a good way to get started on the number 1 to6. :)

Now, I'm quite interested in getting better directions to this BBS. If you can, please post more specific instructions. Were there other girls in the shop? equal quality?

Thanks.

Limeister
07-22-04, 11:03
LUCKY 888

350 RMB? As I said I'm not that good with negotiations and I am relatively new at this. I will do my best to stay in line with the local prices.

I will definitely have to study the bloody numbers. What is this drink and dice game? I see it being played in the bars.

Ah! I don't know the road name but it is an alley that comes off Shi Qian Street next to the Bankn of China. Um, Its near the Gusu Hotel.

Everytime I pass by it there were only 2 girls. I obviously chose the better one :)

Remember the post I wrote about the 2 looking bored girls in the BBS and I wasn't quite sure if they do offer extra services? Well that's the one.

A Fun Man
07-23-04, 04:56
Limeister,

Are you talking about the stree intersecting Shi Quan Jie? If this is the case, I believe that the name of the street should be Feng Huang Jie. Actually, this is one of themajor street with a lot of stores. Bank of China is on the north-west corner of the intersection. It is a busy street during day time. I think that you have to wait after 11PM before you can see some real action on this street.

Lucky888
07-25-04, 08:40
Lime and Fun Man -- Yes, that street would be Feng Huang Jie, I believe.

Lime, the dice game is a bluffing game. You shake the can/jar and then look at the dice and wait until one of you thinks the other is lying. You have 5 dice. Maybe you say you have three 4s showing. Note that a 1 showing is "wild" and can be any number. You say three 4's; she outbids you claiming she has four 3's; you outbid her saying you've got four 6s. Then she thinks you're lying and says 'kai!" which means you gotta show her your 5 dice. Whoever is wrong drinks. It's a great way to get comfortable with the basic numbers 1-6. Then you force yourself to learn 7-10; the rest of the numbers up through 9999 are very regular and predictable. Then you're ready to negotiate prices for pussy. You can play this game in any "drinks" bar (where the girls are there to bring you in for business) or in any KTV. Not sure I've ever been to KTV where I *didn't* play this game.

Limeister
07-26-04, 07:10
Hmm, sounds like an interesting game. Might have to try it at one of the bars. Also, the small BBS I am talking about is not on that main road but the other direction. In the other direction there is a Bank of China as well. This street that intersects Shi Qian Jie is a lot smaller. There is actually three on this road. I went to the closest one.

China Girl Love
07-26-04, 17:00
Some info's about my barbershop experience in Suzhou.

Was there a few months ago (beginning of this year) on a day trip from Shanghai. Visited Suzhou Silk Museum and Humble Administrator's Garden and a few other very nice spots (worth to visit before or after the deed!).

Was on my way from Dongbei Jie (Humble Garden) to the main shopping road, the Jingde Jie, for some food. It was around 2 pm and I was quite hungry after all the sightseeing and walking around. On my way there saw some BBS looking quite interesting with up to 6 bored girls inside.

At the corner of Baita Xilu (maybe it was the next parallel, between Baita Xilu and Guangqian Jie) and Remnmin Lu saw one with a blackened sliding door (one way mirror), which just opened when I passed by, an older lady inviting me in. Well, at that moment I ignored the offer, because I really needed to refuel my batteries!!

On my way back to the train station, being still early enough (around 3:30 pm) I thought I could spend a closer look to this BBS and again, just approaching the door, it opened and in was I. All seemed higly normal, and with my non existing Chinese I made the sign for massage. They understood immediately and I could choose from 3 or 4 girls.

I took a young one, a little chubby (just as I like them) and she was leading me upstairs to the second floor. There were these normal massage boxes, separated just by a curtain. On the way in, one box seemed already occupied, some soft moaning coming out! Very promising!

After lying down on a massage bench (still fully clothed) the girl begun to massag me, not taking long softly touching my little member! Ok, everything was now clear, so directly to the price negociations. After I made it clear that I wanted FS (with the "international sign"!), we settled the price at 150 Yuan.

Down my trousers, down her panties, away her bra and on the rubber! Still lying on the bench, she mounted on me cow girl and with a lot of enthusiasm she drove me quite soon (about 10 minutes only, was very horny this time :-) ) above the edge.

Some hubbling, kissing, getting clothed and down again. On the way out they asked me for "Tai Fei" or semtining similar. Thanks to all your very valuable information I found in this forum, I had no problems to understand and gave 50 Yuan, which seemed to be the right amount.

Big smile from everybody and out I was again, on my way back to the train station and Shanghai.

Ahmad
08-19-04, 17:09
Hi Guys

Justs returned from Suzhou. Checked out the bars in ShiQuan Lu and found the Milano Bar opposite Suzhou Hotel as describes. The girls are to be paid RMB100 tip for spending time with you. You may feel them out but not FS was offered. The will of course try to up their prices. You must try to delay and see how long the RMB100 can last. I must say that the average standard of the girls in that bar is better than the others on the strip.

Check out the 3 BBS opposite UBC coffee on the side street next to Sheraton. They get business from hotel residents but not much FS is possible but asking price was steep at RMB400 and the enviroment is not worth the amount.

The legit massage shop ABAB is very popular. All the girls were out when I pop by at about 10pm.

I stayed only for one night and had not tried the BBS outside the tourist areas. Will follow up on your posts.

Happy hunting.

BQ Bear
08-21-04, 17:55
Any monering places in Suzhou that can be done outside one's own hotel? If I visit Suzhou, I will be staying with a friend and do not think using his place is a good idea.

Firebird
09-08-04, 23:04
I have an upcoming trip to Suzhou to the area of Huoju Road. I go for the outcall LT stay at my hotel and not the BS scene. Can anyone recommend a good "girl" friendly hotel near this area?

I have read reports about the Sheraton - is this a good choice? Is this one nearby?

As I do not speak any Chinese, English "contacts" are a must

Thanks for any information

Firebird

Mistalava
09-23-04, 02:54
On the same side of the street as Milano club (mentioned here) is another place called Atlantis (or Atlantic?). You can take the girls upstairs where there are beds separated by curtains. They'll try to stick you with tai-fe for the mommie, but just politely refuse. Not the greatest, but you can get OK FS.

I think ordering room service from the hotel sauna is better. I 've gone to these, picked out the girl I wanted and confirmed services to be received at a flat rate with the manager. Pay the girl afterwards. Maybe a few rmb more, but a much better experience than a semi-private session upstairs at the bar.

Firebird
09-23-04, 20:49
Mistalava, which hotel are you talking about for the room service?
What is the name of the hotel? Does this incclude FS?

Are you saying that you went to the sauna selected the talent and she came to your room? For how long?

Michi
09-24-04, 03:53
Thanks rothers, as always the infomation helped: stay in Suzhou fo a week, went to point zero last night.
4 girls, the one with the beauty spot mentioned below was there as well, nice girl.
Got approached by a little older one. She was good in making you hard by kissing and licing you right there in the bar and massaging you somwhere further down. lot of touching, feeling, kissing, licking, .... nice lady. No English, but no communication problem. If one is coming up Rose the mamasan will help.
Could not resist after a while, went upstairs.
Rooms quite sleazy, but the small sofa is comfortable to do the deed.
Only drawback with the girl: as you touch her (just anywhere) she starts moaning and moving like a porn star, even if there was nothing erotic or exciting.
But as the room is above the street an has bad windows it does not matter at all as you almost cannot hear the moaning between the car honking.
Alltogether a good experience for 400 for the girl and 4 import beer each for 300. No room charge. Will go back tonight to see her.

A Fun Man
09-26-04, 16:49
Michi,

Are your sure that you pay 300RMB for a beer? It seems to much for a beer. They ca have a BJ/HJ for just half of that price. Hopefully, it is a typo, otherwise, you inflat the price a lot. BTW, I would not pay more than 30, in general.

Member #1728
09-27-04, 11:05
Hi Fellers,

Just to let you know the barber's shop scence in Suzhou. There is a street called Guanji Lu leading towards the train station. Quite a few of them offers FS. Some of them are a bit difficult to notice as recently, a wall has been built in front of them. If you are in the cab, it is difficult to spot them. By foot, you walk towards the train station, on the left side side of the road, you would be able to spot them. Some do not provide FS.. some does. There is one which has 2 cuties in there and the going rate is RMB 200. I was once offered a threesome for Rmb 300. The place where the deed is done is in a backroom... sort of a bit shabby place. But the bed is quite comfortable and large enough. The girl did not rush, took her time and tried different position. In all, I would say that she provided good service and good value for money.

Michi
10-10-04, 14:18
Hi A Fun Man,
no not 300 for a beer, for 8 imported ones (4each), so around your mentioned rate.
Next day I went to moonbar (or something similar). Interestingly some of the girls there spoke a little english.
One was a teacher, hat decided to get more money this way! Went upstairs, but she only gave HJ, nothing more as she "was shy". But: she was not shy to come to the hotel after work, what cost me (as steep) 1200RMB, but was a terrific allnighter until next lunchtime!
very cuddly and grat big breasts!!
Enjoy Shuzou!!!
CU Mike

SeattleGman
10-10-04, 14:19
I stopped into the Zero Point bar the other night and was welcomed by Angel. She was not the best looking one in the bar, but she was very friendly and spoke some English. Angel just arrived in Suzhou two days ago. My experience with 6ís and 7ís rating girls have often been better than 9ís and 10ís. This was no exception! We had a customary drink and I bought one for the girl with the mole mentioned in another posting too.

After a while of flirting with Angel, she asked to go back to my hotel. It was really slow on Shi Qian street this night due to the National Day holiday week. Ended taking Angel for 500 RMB + 100 RMB tip if she stayed the night and made me happy. Also had to pay 100 RMB to the bar to take her out and 80 RMB for 3 drinks. Total damage 780 RMB. I didnít know this place did take out. It was a nice surprise.

Angel was a great experience. She was a great kisser and it really turned her on too. Went 3 rounds with her and she was accommodating each time. It was nice to have a girl that wanted it as much as I did. She even initiated the 2nd round. Nice!

I'm gonna call her tonight to see if we can do a repeat performance.

WooVictor
11-26-04, 06:02
I was in Suzhou for an overnight trip a couple of weeks ago, my first visit in about a year. Last time I was there I stayed at the New City Garden Hotel and couldnít find any action in house or even in town. Of course I could have gone to a nightclub and took a girl back to my room, but I wasnít in the mood for that.

This time around I stayed at the Sheraton, a great hotel. Brother Lucky 888 wrote in June about the suspicious situation at the health centre, so I decided to investigate a little. At about 10pm I called up the health centre and asked for an in-room massage service, but was told by the guy at the other end of the line that their masseuses could not go to the guest rooms. I thought that was the end of the story, and called my wife at home to chat about our son and other things. Half way through our conversation someone rang the doorbell. I opened the door and there stood a young girl of about 22-24, medium built, good-looking but not exceptional, and she asked me if I wanted a massage. There was no way I could get her into my room, and so I just said no and shut the door. I went back to the phone and my wife asked what was going on. I had to lie that it was housekeeping checking if I needed to turn down my bed. She thought it was strange that housekeeping would come so late, but didnít seem to be overly suspicious. After a while we hanged up, and I immediately called the health centre and asked for an in-room service, telling the same guy that a moment ago a girl came to knock on my door offering a massage service. The guy said that she had nothing to do with the health centre, and proceeded to give me a lecture about the dangers of accepting massage service from someone who doesnít work for the hotel.

So, what is going on here? I suspect the health centre only offers straight massage service. But someone will get information about guests who need in-room (and therefore extra) services, perhaps from the health centre guy, or from the operator who listens in? It appears that you only need to declare your need to the health centre, and somehow this will be fulfilled.

After the two-minute lecture by the health centre guy I waited in my room for about half an hour hoping that the girl would somehow get the message and come back. I was out of my luck, however, and so I decided to go out to cruise the bars, as suggested by SeattleMan and Michi, among others.

I took a cab to Shiquan Road and strolled down the street. Business was kind of slow, probably because it was Sunday night. I went into Point Zero, which was probably the busiest of the bars, but it was smoke-filled and everybody seemed very busy so I bowed out after standing at the door for about 20 seconds. I walked down the street to Milano and it was completely dead Ė no customer at all. The mamasan was very keen and took me upstairs to one of the three small rooms. She explained that there is a 50 yuan room charge that include a non-alcoholic drink and a 100 yuan charge for a girl to keep me company. I agreed and sat down, and in a while she brought me a glass of tea. (One thing I really hate about China Ė perhaps with the exception of Guangdong Ė is that they always serve you tea in a tall glass rather than a cup made of china. This is silly because the water is so hot you can hardly hold the glass). Presently a girl came in, but she was so ordinary looking and her questions/comments were so predictable that I quickly lost all interest in staying. I paid my due and left quickly. Thatís 150 yuan down the drain.

On my way to the bar street I saw a big sauna sign and so I decided to try my luck there. I hopped on a cab and in a few minutes arrived at this two-storey building with a big parking lot in front of it. The place has a sauna and a foot massage centre on the ground floor, and a KTV on the second floor. I opted for the sauna, and was told to remove my shoes at the cashierís counter. The receptionist gave me a pair of slippers, and instructed me to go down the hall into the sauna area. There I gave up my slippers and went into the locker room barefooted. After changing I went to take a quick shower and was then ushered to the lounge where I was served a tea. I told the waiter that I wanted a massage right away as it was already midnight.

A minute later a tall and slim girl approached me and told me to follow her to the massage room. As we walked up the staircase I kept my eyes fixed on her nice long legs only partially covered by a mini skirt. Very promising sign, I thought. We walked down several corridors on the second floor and came to a very quiet section with five or six massage rooms. Inside the dimly lit room was a double bed for Thai massage and a cupboard. My masseuse placed a large towel on the bed, removed my pajamas (but leaving my shorts on) and told me to get on bed. She then explained that she could offer me a body massage, an ice-fire and/or full service. The whole package was about 1,000 yuan. It was a bit high for a place decorated to the standard of a four-star hotel, but not unacceptable, so I agreed to a full service package. She then went out to get the hot and cold water and hot towels.

I can no longer remember her name or number. She was quite pretty and her body was excellent, with fairly substantial tits though not very big. The good thing about her is that sheís very co-operative and I managed to stripe her naked before she got on bed to do the massage for me. This was the first naked massage (before having sex) Iíve ever had at a sauna place. Her massage skill was good but not exceptional, though sex was great.

The next day as I left town I realised that this place was on the same street as the Sheraton. As you go out of the hotel you just turn right and the sauna place is two blocks away but on the other side of the street.

Stew2
03-01-05, 19:11
Thanks guys for the info - I visited Suzhou recently and based on reports here decided to try Zero Point Bar. Wandered in and was treated very nicely by the girls and mamasan (whose name I forget - Lisa?- but who speaks pretty good English).

After a few drinks and dice games with the girls at the bar, I asked mama about going upstairs... and she asked what I wanted more specifically. I told her a BJ, and she said that would be fine - 300 for the girl and 100 for the bar, as well as the drinks... I said ok, and she said wait a minute. After talking to the girls I was playing dice with she determined that she needed some new talent (who knows why...) so she went out and returned with a "nice girl" for me... we went upstairs, but when I arrived I learned before long that she was unwilling to do anything uncovered... which doesn't work too well for me for a BJ, so I said no. She offered to let me "milk" her instead (I think this was really just an offer to suck her tits - the English was weak)... and then after I refused, she blocked the door. So after I made it clear that she wasn't getting any milking and did a bit of a fake left and moved right, I was back downstairs in the bar, talking to mama, explaining that this girl didn't want to do what I wanted. She apologized and immediately went out and found me another girl, who she confirmed would do BBBJ.

So after a drink with the new girl, up we went. Turned out she was ok in English and also Japanese, so when we got stuck in English, we could converse in Japanese... She was cute, a college student, so she had a little more to talk about than usual. I liked her quite well, and we had a good time. Nice unrushed BBBJ. I tipped her an extra 100 for her good service.


In fact I liked her well enough to ask to see her again the next night to go to my hotel. We made a date, agreeing to meet at her bar (turns out she hangs out across the street at another bar which mama had gone to to find someone for me) and then go to my hotel later. So I met her the next night, we had a few drinks, and then headed to the hotel. She was great... had a lot of fun, she spent the night with me and then we went around Suzhou the next day together. No mention of money. At the end of the 2nd day, we agreed that we needed to go our own ways, so I gave her 1,200 and another 100 for her bar mama. She was happy with that (not thrilled, but it was enough - I had also bought her lunch and a nice dinner). Was a nice GFE.

Also tried the in room massage service at the Bamboo Grove Hotel, where I was staying. Nice looking girls come to the room and give good massages (200 yuan for an hour) and then offer HJ to get a tip - but that sems to be all that is on offer, couldn't get any of them to even go so far as BJ.

Luv China Fems
03-30-05, 00:12
Yo,

My chinese buddy and I have a detailed trip to many cities around the east coast of china. suzhou, of course is one of them.

I have a net friend from a teachers bbs that says there are many barbershops there.

Can anyone confirm this?

Koay33
03-31-05, 10:29
Dear all mongers,

Please be aware of the girls and pimp in the Karaoke named Hai Hai. It was back to Aug 04'. I was there with my company's colleagues for business trip. One night, I intended to get some suzhou dishes outside of the hotel.When I was about to leave the gate of the hotel, a taxi driver approached me and hinted if I need to get some joy. I noded my head. After a few min of journey, we reached the karaoke, Hai Hai. And the pimp there brought me into an empty room.

After awhile the pimp brought in a group of hot ladies. I chose one with a slim and tall named LIN JIE. After a while, snacks and beers were served. With no delay, I asked the girl for a FS. After the negociation, she agreed with 250Y and I paid 150Y and another 100 after the job done. She walked out from the room and returned with another guy. The guy showed up with a bill of 1300Y. Omg..! This is totally crap! I argued with the guy saying that is this my bill? He started to explain what it was so expensive. The bill was included the tax of the government, snacks, beers and the facilities. The most ridiculous was the 1300Y included the tax of the street, WTH is this?

Well, no one to blame, I was a newbie and didn't ask for the price before the session actually started. So I paid the bill eventually. The chick, Lin Jie, sent me down and promised to wait for me at the motel nearby named Da fu hao. She didn't show up eventually. That's was really a bad experience for me. So I'm here to to advise fellow mongers out there take precaution when you visit to the karaoke. And I wish to get some advices from mongers out there. I will visit Kun Ming on next Wed until Sat. Hope to get some precious info from fellow mongers. Thank you very much

Regards,

K33

VB Expert
04-01-05, 18:21
Dear all mongers,

Please be aware of the girls and pimp in the Karaoke named Hai Hai. It was back to Aug 04'. I was there with my company's colleagues for business trip. One night, I intended to get some suzhou dishes outside of the hotel.When I was about to leave the gate of the hotel, a taxi driver approached me and hinted if I need to get some joy. I noded my head. After a few min of journey, we reached the karaoke, Hai Hai. And the pimp there brought me into an empty room.

After awhile the pimp brought in a group of hot ladies. I chose one with a slim and tall named LIN JIE. After a while, snacks and beers were served. With no delay, I asked the girl for a FS. After the negociation, she agreed with 250Y and I paid 150Y and another 100 after the job done. She walked out from the room and returned with another guy. The guy showed up with a bill of 1300Y. Omg..! This is totally crap! I argued with the guy saying that is this my bill? He started to explain what it was so expensive. The bill was included the tax of the government, snacks, beers and the facilities. The most ridiculous was the 1300Y included the tax of the street, WTH is this?

Well, no one to blame, I was a newbie and didn't ask for the price before the session actually started. So I paid the bill eventually. The chick, Lin Jie, sent me down and promised to wait for me at the motel nearby named Da fu hao. She didn't show up eventually. That's was really a bad experience for me. So I'm here to to advise fellow mongers out there take precaution when you visit to the karaoke. And I wish to get some advices from mongers out there. I will visit Kun Ming on next Wed until Sat. Hope to get some precious info from fellow mongers. Thank you very much

Regards,

K33Oh, my poor friend.

This happened to me last year. The bill was 1400RMB plus. What we do is one of my frends make excuse (don't have enough money and need to go to the ATM) to get out of the place and call 110 (The policeman). After the police came, we only paid 200RMB. When you face this kind of thing, don't be afraid and call the police. The police is willing to help you. Bring a local go there is always a good solution.

OldAsiaHand
04-02-05, 04:59
Taxi drivers can be a double edged sword. Although they normally know where all the action is, they can also be on the take as is probably the case with the one that brought Kooay33 to the place. I have seen this happen too many times with taxi drivers.

OAH

Koay33
04-04-05, 04:48
Hi all,

VB Expert you were having the same case as mine in the same karaoke? Ah, that's bad. Anyway, I'm going to Kun Ming and Su Zhou again this coming Sat. Anyone of you know the place to hunt for girls in both of the places (Su zhou and Kun Ming). The most preferable are those BBS that provide place/room as I'm going with my business partner. Pls share the information here. Thanks a million.

Regards,

K33

Member #1728
04-06-05, 00:28
Koay33,

In suzhou, the places to hunt for girls could be the following. You should start your hunting quite early. You can start with Dream Hollywood on Sichuan Jie... Stick to the bar as those girls on the hunt as well sticks around the bar... If you are not lucky in Dream Hollywood by 11.00pm... Head to the other bar called Tom's bar. Sorry, I do not know the street name. In Tom's bar, there is quite a few actions there around 1130pm onwards...In both Dream Hollywood or Tom's bar, if you are lucky, you might end up with a Freebie.

But if you are unlucky in both bars.. then the best place to head to is Point Zero bar. In there.. there are some nice young girls there...the last time I was there, it seems that the mamasan has changed her old fleet to new ones, but if it is past midnight...Negotiate the price... Generally, they will bring you upstairs in a small room... have not tried the new fleet.. the old fleet was quite good with BBBJCIM and finish off with full service. They would ask you for RMB 400. but negotiate to a lower rate. They will accept Rmb 300 the lowest with full service.

If you are more into BBS stuff. On Guangi Lu.. that is the road leading to the train station... there are quite a few there. Walking on the main road towards the train station , you would see them seating behind those sliding window. The going rate as I used a few is Rmb 200 with CBJ and full service. I used only one BBS as a regular customer there.. So I get some extras sometimes.

I hope that the info will help. Have a good trip in Suzhou

Koay33
04-06-05, 03:02
Hi Member #1728,

Thank you so much for the precious information. By the way, I'm so curious about are you still in Su Zhou or perhaps you are the local people of Su Zhou. If you are, that would be great if you can bring me look around in Su zhou and ofcourse I won't forget to treat you something good =)

One question, would it be safe in the area of BBS you mentioned? The last time my colleague went to ShangHai BBS to get full service, but unfortunately, the police raided the place and my friend got caught on the spot. Eventually, he paid the police and they let him go. (I doubt that's real.) but anyhow if it's real to me, what shall I do? And I always heard of the girls will ask for "extra" tips after the session ends, which is more than the price agreed before the session started. How to prevent it to be happened?

After a few discussions with my colleagues, we intended to go atleast 4 to 5 different places in China. Will post the name of the places in the next report. Thank you.

Regards,

K33

Member #1728
04-06-05, 09:01
Koay33,

I am an expat working in Suzhou. PM me so that I could better answer your questions specifically to what you are looking for.

Cheers

China Alle Way
05-16-05, 16:04
Hello Brudders here!

Sorry that can't post in a new thread.

Is there any info about YiWu?

Thanks

TangZhen
05-27-05, 07:28
On a project here in Suzhou for a week, and I have the following to offer

Went to the Karaoke near the walking mall on Guan Qian and Lin Dun Lu. Kind of high class place. Was taken by my host, so not sure the cost, but likely expensive. Picked a nice fresh faced girl, and did the singing thing ( my speciality)! Girl was a not available type for post singing action, but was offered a girl with a great body but less attractive to me overall, so I agreed. It turned into an 'interesting' type event as I found out that she was 'a few bricks shy of a load', or we might say 'intelectually challenged' - basically kinda low IQ. Sex was OK but less fun than a lot of BBS girls I have done. Cost was picked up by my host, who handed me a wad of cash to give the girl when finished. I did not count the money as it seemed inappropriate.

Went to Point Zero a couple days later. Only girl there that looked hot enough, was what I call door candy, to draw guys in, and then hit them up to buy her drinks. I doubt she was available for much more than that. It still was a cool place to hang out, but I noticed that the foreign guys would drop in, try to score the hottie, fail, then leave, while the Chinese would hang out there and have a good time. I thought the contrast rather interesting.

Dragon419
05-30-05, 11:18
Hi Member #1728,

I'm staying at the Garden View Hotel only for a night. Where can I go to bring them back to my room? Any of these BBS you mentioned near to this hotel?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Member #1728]Koay33,

In suzhou, the places to hunt for girls could be the following. You should start your hunting quite early. You can start with Dream Hollywood on Sichuan Jie... Stick to the bar as those girls on the hunt as well sticks around the bar... If you are not lucky in Dream Hollywood by 11.00pm... Head to the other bar called Tom's bar. Sorry, I do not know the street name. In Tom's bar, there is quite a few actions there around 1130pm onwards...In both Dream Hollywood or Tom's bar, if you are lucky, you might end up with a Freebie.

A Fun Man
05-31-05, 03:48
You actually do not need to go out of hotel to find what you want. In Suzhou, almost every hotel has its own beauty salon. Check the hotel phone directory to find the number to call. If you simple call in, they will send one to your room. Normally, the girls in the salon are in line. You can reject the one sent to your room and request another one. However, I would suggest you call them to ask for the location. Then you go there to pick up the one you like the most. The price should be flat, about 700 yuan for a full service, massage, hand/oral, and straight for about an hour. The girl need to turn in about 250 yuan to the owner of the salon. If you get along with a girl very well, you can make an apointment with the girl for a night. You have to make the appointment in advance, at least before 2:30PM, when they will report to work. If you make appointment before that time, the girl can get excuse for not report to work. Then she will not be required to submit 250 yuan per hour or 400 yuan per night to the owner. The girl is willing to pass the saving to you in most of the time if you get along with her well. So the first thine first is be respect the girl.


Hi Member #1728,

I'm staying at the Garden View Hotel only for a night. Where can I go to bring them back to my room? Any of these BBS you mentioned near to this hotel?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Member #1728]Koay33,

In suzhou, the places to hunt for girls could be the following. You should start your hunting quite early. You can start with Dream Hollywood on Sichuan Jie... Stick to the bar as those girls on the hunt as well sticks around the bar... If you are not lucky in Dream Hollywood by 11.00pm... Head to the other bar called Tom's bar. Sorry, I do not know the street name. In Tom's bar, there is quite a few actions there around 1130pm onwards...In both Dream Hollywood or Tom's bar, if you are lucky, you might end up with a Freebie.

Schlemil6
09-13-05, 21:57
Hi Hunters!

I will stay next week 3 nights at the "New City Garden Hotel", East Shishan Road New District.

As I am a newbie, does anybody of you hunters know the massage service or common prices there?

Could you suggest me any good bar or BBS in this area?

Thank you very much. I will try to reward you with some nice pictures if possible.

Schlemil6

Night Cat
09-19-05, 20:12
Could you suggest me any good bar or BBS in this area?
Here are some directions to some BBS in Suzhou (according to my friend, I've never been there). I hope this information reaches you in time. Let us know how things work out.

In Suzhou go to Su Yuan Jie, Su Zhou Ave, at the end of the street, a few steps down an alley; there is a disco around the corner called Maya. FS is 150 RMB. 6 shops and the girls were different almost every day. They claimed to have 15 girls per shop, 5 at a time in the shop.

Schlemil6
09-20-05, 18:53
My report of last night action:

I were in the Dream Hollywood but it was totally dead there.

So I decided to try the massage service of my hotel.

I called them and 5 minutes later a beautifull girl rung at my door.

She called herself "Angel" (how fancy!) and started an oil massage of my back, pulled down my shorts and gave me an lovely ass massage.

Then the signed me to turn around, we could realy speak to each other, because she didn't spoke a word English.

After stroking my breast and dick, she asked if I wanted a sex massage.

We negotiated a long time and finally I agreed by 1000. I know may be to much, but she was really nice (small tits, a fantastic firm ass and short trimmed pubic hair) and I was really horny at this time.

She gave me a CBJ and FS in different positions. Her orgasm was very loud and may be a little bit to faked. Or was I'm very so good? ;-)

After the sex we take a shower and she washed and dried me. This all took one and a half hour.

The girl tried to get another 300 for the massage, which I refused to pay. Is this normal? I was pissed and told her to go.

But in total, I'm pleased with my first time and will try to get tomorrow night more.

@ Night Cat: Thanks, I would like to try your suggestion tomorrow.

I have also seen today a side road of the Shishan Road with a big light sign "...Downtown...", I unfortunatly forgott the street name something like "hiuasua" there were some Japanese restaurants and around 20 and bars (venus club, moncheri) and massage shops. I walked down the street with my colleagues, so I could not have a detailed look.

Does anybody know this road?

Tingle Tree
09-21-05, 13:09
I recently visited Suzhou. Having been burned once in a KTV bar several years ago, I was wary of venturing too far. Staying in the Castle Hotel (nice 4 star), I tried the massage parlour around the corner next to the KFC. Tried two times, once at the parlour and once in the room but no go. It was a good massage though at a very reasonable price.

Eventually tried the massage/health club off the lobby of the hotel. I think the name was Seasons. First girl was OK but expensive and from Hangzhou. The next two nights I had a different girl. Look for the girl with the rose tattoo. She had average looks but she was great in bed so I went two nights running. In the end, she even agreed to long time.

I know you pay top dollar in a hotel but my view in China is better safe than sorry given the nature of Chinese laws!

TangZhen
10-22-05, 17:23
I should have known better, but I followed at tout to a run down ktv, and in a lousy room they pulled in a rather unattractive girl. Going in I warned them that I did not bring more than 150 RMB, which when I repeated this to to the girl they had brought, rasied a note of fear in her voice that told me it was time to leave. They tried to pull the old, well we brought in so much stuff (lousy fruit trey, cup of tea, 'wine' for the girl, but I told them I did not want any of it when they brought it in, this was raising red flags). I should have caught on earlier, but it was at most 10 minutes before I was on my way out. When they pulled their trick, I started shouting and pushing the door open. I said I would call my police friend to come down and help settle this, at which point they agreed to the 150. I paid the last 50 rmb and was on my way out. Luckly I caught on pretty early and 150 is a small price to pay for the lesson. For the people who do not know China, I could really see how it could be much worse, language skill saved me a lot along with being fired up and shouting loudly but without hitting them. The police friend trick and not pushing for under 150 also was the right move. The wrong move was going with them when I saw the place was run down.

In general it sucked and I am mad at myself for falling for it as far as I did, but at least I can walk away without it denting my lifestyle. Dont follow touts anywhere, far too likely to be this trick.

Better Luck next time,
TZ

Ffnantes2
10-28-05, 19:54
Hi,

I will spend 3 nights next week in this hotel, which I don't know.

Are there any interesting "sites" in the vicinity of this hotel, or at least in Suzhou Industrial Park?

Thanks for your information.

Frank

Tinybobo1002
10-30-05, 02:03
Suzhou is quite clean (or dead). It is not easy to find one. Actions seem to be found inside hotels. With help from the locals, I tried one near Suzhou Museum. Like the city, the shop was quite clean, much better than those in Shanghai. The girl served me was a 20 year old from Anhui. She is small (height, cup size and pussy), but skilful enough to swallow and accommodate my big dig. Total damage was 350 rmb after bargain down from 500. Experience was only average. I won't recommend it.

AquaSponge1
10-30-05, 05:46
Because of its proximity to Shanghai, most attractive girls would rather spend not waster their years in Suzhou but rather go to Shanghai earning more money for the same do.

There is a KTV called "Taipei Nights" which is located inside a small park next to Renminglu...the park is really small and has a white arch at the entrance. Next to the park is a sauna place and across the street from the sauna place is a Pizza Hut and KFC. The girls at this KTV is only allowed to wear traditional Chinese bras (the kind of small silk apron thing) which was worn during the dynasties. They get to wear pants of course. The girls are braless underneath that small thing.

Go there early because its a small place with only 20 rooms max. Tips for the girls are 200RMB each, tips for the room attendent is 200RMB. Not sure about takeout because I've never tried it.

AquaSponge1
10-31-05, 14:20
RTFF and if you still can't find any place to monger, check out the sauna place near Suzhou Sheraton.

Walk across the street from the the Sheraton's main lobby and turn right. It's next to the first intersection.

Rice_guy
11-05-05, 14:48
AquaSponge,

Hey I have been to Taipei Night as well. It a rather interesting place since it is actually located beside the Worker's Culture Museum. Yes, they do wear the traditional chinese bra-top "du-dou" Also, there is another KTV on Shi-Quan-Jie not far away that has girls wearing a thin layer of see-through silk dress. Also, people tell me Snow White Disco Bar is a busy spot at night too.

AquaSponge1
12-09-05, 02:02
this board looks almost dead just...so here is a fr of a sauna which my supplier took me to.

the hotel is located in ping wang near wujiang which is near suzhou.

sauna entrance is located right next to the lobby. change your shoes and take off everything at the lockers. usual steam bath, showers, cold and hot water dips.

ignore the guy soliciting for back rubs. one small blue towel costs you 10rmb inside the sauna. i did not know that until i took one to cover up my cellphone to avoid it getting wet from all the water.

after drying off, you change into shorts and a t-shirt before being escorting upstairs via a dark stairwell. the facilities are quite nice and i found out why they dimmed the lights upstairs later (to avoid peeking into the individual rooms).

was escorted to a room where tea was served at 20rmb each. lineup was brought it and choose a 7/10 whom i later found out was from chongqing.

she asked what level of service i wanted and i of course answered fs (quan tao). she came back with a small bag of treats and started undressing me.

as soon as i got face down on the bed, she undressed and starting pouring ice cold milk lotion all over (man! that was cold). started with the breast massage (hers, not mine) all over the back, cleaned up that ice cold lotion and did a catbath. flipped over and same ice cold treatment with that lotion. ditto for the breast massage and catbath. followed by ar with a condom for her tongue. nice! some places the girls don't use a condom and do ar bareback, which is quite disgusting actually.

nothing special in her catbath method but her bj skills nearly made me cum!
ice water and hot water in sequence. she had a nice touch of small catbath licks along the shaft, delaying swallowing the sword until the last moment.

bbbj was great and i asked her to flip over for a 69 daty. she was moaning loudly during that and that got me even more excited.

asked her to cap me and began in cowgirl style, flipped her over for mish and corkscrew before finishing in doggy. she was amazed by the size of my weapon as they do not have foreigners in there frequently. she was squealing loudly all throughout the plugging and i was hoping the sound-proofing was good enough to cover the noise from my friend next door.

had a cig together after the deed, which was nice, small talk and quickly towel off (had to shower again downstairs in the sauna as the room did not have any wash facililties).

as you had no cash with you, you sign a chit. she tried to con me by asking me to sign for 500rmb for fs. fortunately, my supplier had inform me to pay only 400rmb so i told her to change it. she quickly did.

overall, a good session.

looks: 7/10
ar: 7/10
bbbj: 9/10
fs: 7/10
costs: 400rmb for fs, 70rmb for the sauna

AquaSponge1
12-13-05, 03:22
Woke up this morning and remembered I that I forgot to mentioned this girl had blonde pussy hair...first time I seen that here in China. Asked her if she had colored it? She said no. It's all natural.

Cheers! Go to Shanghai tomorrow to check out Yu Ping Sauna.

Daveyboy
01-21-06, 05:22
Suzhou is a great place, no need to even try to get laid!

Go to the street "Xi Shuan Jie" a street full of bars.

Go into almost any of them and you'll be asked if you would like to go upstairs with a girl (or two)

You get laid whilst drinking beer - FS from about 400 to 600, BBBJ from 200 to 400 and there are some babes to be had.

Order your beer, choose a girl, go upstairs, blow your load, go back to the bar.

It's brilliant.

Is there anywhere in Shanghai or Hangzhou like that?

I'd love to know.

Dave


Because of its proximity to Shanghai, most attractive girls would rather spend not waster their years in Suzhou but rather go to Shanghai earning more money for the same do.

There is a KTV called "Taipei Nights" which is located inside a small park next to Renminglu...the park is really small and has a white arch at the entrance. Next to the park is a sauna place and across the street from the sauna place is a Pizza Hut and KFC. The girls at this KTV is only allowed to wear traditional Chinese bras (the kind of small silk apron thing) which was worn during the dynasties. They get to wear pants of course. The girls are braless underneath that small thing.

Go there early because its a small place with only 20 rooms max. Tips for the girls are 200RMB each, tips for the room attendent is 200RMB. Not sure about takeout because I've never tried it.

Bagu3
02-06-06, 13:47
Not far from the center of the SIP (Suzhou Industrial Park), there is a place called Lou Feng, which is teeming ó I don't exaggerate ó with BBS and other dens of iniquity. FS can be had for 200 RMB (twosomes for 400), so don't waste your time and money on those ladies on Bar Street.

AquaSponge1
02-08-06, 02:20
Not far from the center of the SIP (Suzhou Industrial Park), there is a place called Lou Feng, which is teeming ó I don't exaggerate ó with BBS and other dens of iniquity. FS can be had for 200 RMB (twosomes for 400), so don't waste your time and money on those ladies on Bar Street.Hi Bagu3,

Since it is too damn cold now, are the BBS dens heated?

During winter, I suggest going to saunas or taking out from KTV to your hotel rooms.

Bagu3
02-11-06, 04:28
Didn't notice the cold. Maybe because I had two gals providing the heat.

Kinesics
02-12-06, 02:29
This sauna appears to be a section of entertainment complex, which is located in outside of Suzhou. It would take about 20 minutes or so from Suzhou downtown in non-rush hour time (i.e. around mid-night). Here is their number: 8518-6518.

Unfortunately, I canít give you specific directions as I have no clue on Suzhou geography because I visit Suzhou only a few times a year for short duration on each visit, and I usually have an assigned transportation (private car with driver).

KingZone16 would be the best from the perspective of size, quality of facility and the services among the saunas where I have visited in Shanghai and Suzhou. Bathing area is equipped with several hot tubs where each one has special herbs or natural ingredients, which should be good for skins.

It has four or five skin scrub tables and skin scrub was good and refreshing.

Then if guests want to do swimming in common area, they can wear swimming trunks (provided by the sauna) and get into the common area where female and male guests can meet, swim and have good time. So this appears to be the place for family can go together. At this point, I was somewhat disappointed and worried as I wanted to have good massage and good finishing touch.

So we all dried up after sauna and body scrub, all moved onto common lobby or lounge where all male and female guests gather together. It has pool tables, small movie watching section, bar/food table, and magazine rack. Now, I was really disappointed as I realized about this co-ed lounge and no chance for good FS massage.

After a bit of sit-down, talking and drinks, we requested massages and were escorted to separate small waiting room behind the counter. Then each of us was taken to massage room by the staff. Massage room was small but very clean and well decorated with one wall by the bed covered by the mirror. When a massage girl got into the room, my worries, disappointment and sense of pissed-off instantly melted away. By looking at this spinner good looking young lady and her outfit convinced me she could do all those things that I needed at that moment.

She gave me tongue massage from feet to shoulder which is followed by covered hot/cold blowjob and then finished the session by making the deed. Then she gave me good massage until the allotted time was over. FS was not the best one I ever had but was not too bad. She had beautiful smile, made eye contacts all the time, and killer body which were good compensating factors for me.

I was somewhat shocked and surprised that this place offers full service to male guests while female guests walking around in the lounge, and these massage girls in white miniskirts and revealing suggesting red brazier walking their male guest all the way out to the counter in the lounge.
In summary, I had great time and will definitely go back there on my next trip to Suzhou. Total cost was about 770 RMB (sauna, body scrub and full service massage, shoe shine) which might be a bit high for Suzhou standard but worthy it.

TangZhen
02-16-06, 12:14
I made a trip over to LouFeng to check it out. First in the daytime and later at night. The day trip was to scout out the area and see what would be available at night. There are about 15 to 20 shops, with mostly average looking girls. During the night visit, I saw a shop with a nice looking girl, and went in for a close look. She balked at the deal, saying she was afraid of size and would only agree if I would make it quick. I laughed, but delined. The mamasan was getting a bit friendly with me, but I had other plans for the evening. Finding LouFeng is pretty easy as I just got in a taxi and told him LouFeng. The shops are in a shop and restaurant area, and once you find the area, the shops are easy to find.

AquaSponge1
02-28-06, 06:52
This sauna appears to be a section of entertainment complex, which is located in outside of Suzhou. It would take about 20 minutes or so from Suzhou downtown in non-rush hour time (i.e. around mid-night). Here is their number: 8518-6518.

Unfortunately, I canít give you specific directions as I have no clue on Suzhou geography because I visit Suzhou only a few times a year for short duration on each visit, and I usually have an assigned transportation (private car with driver).

KingZone16 would be the best from the perspective of size, quality of facility and the services among the saunas where I have visited in Shanghai and Suzhou. Bathing area is equipped with several hot tubs where each one has special herbs or natural ingredients, which should be good for skins.

It has four or five skin scrub tables and skin scrub was good and refreshing.

Then if guests want to do swimming in common area, they can wear swimming trunks (provided by the sauna) and get into the common area where female and male guests can meet, swim and have good time. So this appears to be the place for family can go together. At this point, I was somewhat disappointed and worried as I wanted to have good massage and good finishing touch.

So we all dried up after sauna and body scrub, all moved onto common lobby or lounge where all male and female guests gather together. It has pool tables, small movie watching section, bar/food table, and magazine rack. Now, I was really disappointed as I realized about this co-ed lounge and no chance for good FS massage.

After a bit of sit-down, talking and drinks, we requested massages and were escorted to separate small waiting room behind the counter. Then each of us was taken to massage room by the staff. Massage room was small but very clean and well decorated with one wall by the bed covered by the mirror. When a massage girl got into the room, my worries, disappointment and sense of pissed-off instantly melted away. By looking at this spinner good looking young lady and her outfit convinced me she could do all those things that I needed at that moment.

She gave me tongue massage from feet to shoulder which is followed by covered hot/cold blowjob and then finished the session by making the deed. Then she gave me good massage until the allotted time was over. FS was not the best one I ever had but was not too bad. She had beautiful smile, made eye contacts all the time, and killer body which were good compensating factors for me.

I was somewhat shocked and surprised that this place offers full service to male guests while female guests walking around in the lounge, and these massage girls in white miniskirts and revealing suggesting red brazier walking their male guest all the way out to the counter in the lounge.
In summary, I had great time and will definitely go back there on my next trip to Suzhou. Total cost was about 770 RMB (sauna, body scrub and full service massage, shoe shine) which might be a bit high for Suzhou standard but worthy it.


Great post! One of the best here so far!
Come on mongers in Suzhou area - we should follow what our fellow mongers in Shanghai are doing and keep this thread lively!

Cheers!
Aqua

AquaSponge1
02-28-06, 06:54
Been reading about the red rope tricks being performed in the Shanghai saunas...any fellow mongers know about similar establishments here in the Suzhou area?

Indigo Bob
03-14-06, 19:58
Spent a week in Suzhou with mixed results. The highlight was a Sauna called "Xing hailang". After changing in the locker room into short pajamas the steward pointed to a picture of a man and woman kissing with a questioning look. I gave a thumbs up and we proceeded to the appropriate area. I was a bit confused as I hadn't even taken a shower but when I got to the room it was perfectly clear as to what the drill was going to be. The room was wood paneled like a sauna with a "wet bed" on one side and a "dry bed" on the other. The wet bed was about a 4" deep raised tub with a foam mattress and a hand shower baton. I dismissed the first two girls, the third was face = 7 but body was 9. She undressed me and helped me lay down on the wet bed than undressed her self. The next 20 minutes she soaped scrubbed and rinsed me off. What a wonderful feeling haveing this beautiful body slide all over mine. She than dried me off and I moved over to the dry bed. Some very nice action there also. At some point I stuck my finger up her butt and she loved it. I kept it in there as long as I could without breaking it off. She was definately okay with anal action, unfortunately even though I'm not huge, I had a hard time penetrating. It's the first time in my life I wished I had a smaller dick.

Anyway here's the score:

Looks: 7
Body: 9
Attitude: 10 very compliant

Attached is the business card, I had a heck of a time finding this place. The fourth taxi driver finally got the right idea after a bunch of hand signals. Print this out and hand it to the taxi driver and a few RMB later you should be in heaven.

AquaSponge1
03-15-06, 02:04
Spent a week in Suzhou with mixed results. The highlight was a Sauna called "Xing hailang". After changing in the locker room into short pajamas the steward pointed to a picture of a man and woman kissing with a questioning look. I gave a thumbs up and we proceeded to the appropriate area. I was a bit confused as I hadn't even taken a shower but when I got to the room it was perfectly clear as to what the drill was going to be. The room was wood paneled like a sauna with a "wet bed" on one side and a "dry bed" on the other. The wet bed was about a 4" deep raised tub with a foam mattress and a hand shower baton. I dismissed the first two girls, the third was face = 7 but body was 9. She undressed me and helped me lay down on the wet bed than undressed her self. The next 20 minutes she soaped scrubbed and rinsed me off. What a wonderful feeling haveing this beautiful body slide all over mine. She than dried me off and I moved over to the dry bed. Some very nice action there also. At some point I stuck my finger up her butt and she loved it. I kept it in there as long as I could without breaking it off. She was definately okay with anal action, unfortunately even though I'm not huge, I had a hard time penetrating. It's the first time in my life I wished I had a smaller dick.

Anyway here's the score:

Looks: 7
Body: 9
Attitude: 10 very compliant

Attached is the business card, I had a heck of a time finding this place. The fourth taxi driver finally got the right idea after a bunch of hand signals. Print this out and hand it to the taxi driver and a few RMB later you should be in heaven.

Cannot see your attachment?!
Can you write it down here?

Indigo Bob
03-15-06, 02:43
Sorry Aqua, It's attached now. By the way, it was around 580 rmb


Cannot see your attachment?!
Can you write it down here?

AquaSponge1
03-15-06, 04:47
Sorry Aqua, It's attached now. By the way, it was around 580 rmb

Don't worry about it, Indigo Bob!
Well done on your FR...keep on posting your adventures!
The Suzhou thread needs more mongers like you!

I will try to check that place out soon! Sounds like a variation of the Thai & Japanese soapy.

Kinesics
03-16-06, 03:43
Great post and information. I will certainly check it out on my next trip to Suzhou!!! Thanks!

Lukewarm
03-17-06, 11:29
Hi everybody,

I will be in suzhou in a couple of weeks staying at a hotel alled the bamboo grove. Can anybody point me the right direction for a good full service?

I will be on my own and non chinese speaking if that makes a difference?
Any tips greatly apprecaited,

Thanks Luke

Punk Boulala
03-18-06, 07:43
Lukewarm,

Find Pulp Fiction which any expat will know. That street has all the action. Not BBS but all inclusive girlie bars. I had some great times there one weekend. Damage 300-400 but I'm not a native so I may have paid too much.

Diamond Head
03-23-06, 21:53
There's an earlier report indicating that room service massage is not possible at the Sheraton. I was there last weekend and it most definitely is possible. Not knowing this, I had a massage in the health department. I like this place, no pj's, just your birthday suit under a towel. The gal they took me into was at least an 8, very cute (#18). When she took the towel she took a nice long look at little brother.

Well, once she got to the topside the usual questions (massaggee here?) and negotiating started. This is the problem with a 5 star joint, the HJ started at 2500 kuai!! To entice me she showed off her rack, nice, and put my hand down her pants. Hairless!! Long story short, got her down to 1200 for full service but she said I'd have to call again and ask for her to come to my room for a massage. That's getting very, very expensive. I declined and I hate it the way they lose interest suddenly even thought there was still time on the clock.

Next night I called down and ordered for the room. #18 was off but #17 arrived on time. She was no #18 but still okay. Usual massage beating around the bush (no pun) and then she popped the question. Same price structure which I told her was bu xing!! Got down to 1200 again and I was a beaten man. Went for it and she was a pretty good performer. Got my money's worth if that's possible at these kinds of prices.

Mianbao
03-27-06, 13:21
Just back from Suzhou, sayed on Shiquan Jie which turned out to be a very wise decision. A lot of girlie bars there as reported previously (please note it is Shiquan not Sichuan!)

First stop was the "New Feel" bar. Some real hotties inside, however I made the big mistake of agreeing to go upstairs too quickly and not negotiating downstairs first. As a result the payment demand was way too high, and it took ten minutes of hard bargaining to get down to something realistic, despite it being a Sunday night. As a result the service was terrible. Was supposed to get a BJ but was more a matter of slight contact with the lips while a HJ was administered. The spitting was over the top as well, like a whale drenching the entire floor. Not to mention it was rushed. Waste of RMB200 + RMB100 room fee, which was already pricey (negotiation started at 500 + 100, plus the girl said 800 is normal laowai price and 500 is the Chinese price but I would get it because I could speak Mandarin - total nonsense!).

Lesson: take your time, and negotiate downstairs first, before you are hit with the RMB100 room fee for going upstairs. Once you've gone up they know you are committed. Even better, play the dice game for half an hour to build up some rapport first, and let them work on you to convince you to go up.

Visited a couple of similar themed bars on the same street (spoilt for choice, there are about a dozen and very few customers on a Sunday), and armed with my lesson had much more success. These bars are easy to find, and on a quiet night the girls will open the door and call to you.

A couple of other points - Dream Hollywood was dead but looked like it was have potential on a Friday or Saturday. Also need to be wary of cons on this street. Was offered RMB50 for a massage in a KTV room - the girl was hot too but when it is too cheap to be true and the room does not look like it is usually used for mongering - probably not a good idea. I made sure I had an easy well lit exit while checking it out and I declined. Read too many sorry stories from tourist areas like Hangzhou and Suzhou already. As long as you apply common sense you will be fine on this street however.

Also Suzhou Hotel and Suzhou Delight Hotel (sign outside says Happy 100 Hotel) are GF friendy. I stayed at the latter and brought my girlie bar friend home after midnight, she also confirmed the former is not a problem. The Suzhou Delight Hotel also has a KTV attached but did not have time to check it out, plus I cannot say I understand the KTV concept!

Cheers,

Mianbao

BB Cat
04-01-06, 16:08
Hi Guys,

Mind telling me how can I get to suzhou? I will be heading to Shanghai this summer to attend my friends' wedding. First time in shanghai. I wanted to give suzhou a visit.

Please help.

Thanks,

Cat

Kunshan
04-03-06, 06:53
From Shanghai train to Suzhou, about 1.5 hours. Many trains each way per day.

Or fly to Nanjing then take a bus, taxi, bus, taxi and you are there.

TangZhen
04-11-06, 10:50
This is about Wuxi, and Suzhou is the closest thread so here it is. Went to an MP in Wuxi at #3 RenMinDong Lu. Pretty nice place from the outside, and posting reasonable prices. Gave them my shoes and went to the shower sauna pool area. The pools were down for servicing (which is likely a good thing as the hygene in those pools is always a question to me, but I digress). Went to the massage area and it seemed quite a big thing for them to select who should be my massuse for the evening with lots of giggling and a bit of shouting. Girl offered was a bit beefy, but seemed nice, not a real great looking girl but nice rack which can come in handy during massages.

She let me know that she did not offer FS but basically anything but penetration would be ok and she would provide fire-ice. Quoted price was 390, I asked for a discount and was quoted 350. Seemed interesting, so I agreed. She stripped down to her rabbit ear panties, inserted some type of napkin (not for yuejin but to keep any wetness away during the play). A bit logical actually as I guess she could frequently get worked up and would not be changing her underwear.

She then proceeded to do sex related massage, breast massage, nipple play, etc. As things progressed I felt more comfortable to direct the play into areas that I was more interested. I proceeded to find her sensitive spots and see how far I could get her going. I could get her quite worked up and panting 'yang, yang' but understood that she could not do penetration, so any climax for her would have to come from clit massage.

She gave me covered bing-hou but in my opinion it was not a big thing for me. If I were to go back, I would skip this and go for a good disount. One thing about discounts is that you have to stick to posted amounts ususally, so best to get familiar with their price structure (posted near the front desk) when going in so you know where the next price point is. Anyway after a good long time of basically foreplay and finishing with a HJ, it was time for her to put back on her polyester sailor suit and leave me to rest for a bit. She was a nice girl and it was safe and fun play. Not a real hottie as she had a good couple of extra kilos on her waist, and it showed, but nice good cup size and pleasing attitude.

James04
04-21-06, 13:43
Hi Guys,

Mind telling me how can I get to suzhou? I will be heading to Shanghai this summer to attend my friends' wedding. First time in shanghai. I wanted to give suzhou a visit.

Please help.

Thanks,

CatI am Shanghainese, in fact there are many trains from Shanghai to Suzhou every half or one hours. My suggestion is that you take train number starts with T. For example Train No.T712, etc. This is the fastest train in China. Like english called express train. It will only take 50 minutes.If you still have any doubts, you can pm me. But please don't go Nanjing first then come back. It is wrong way.

Dmitri48
04-21-06, 19:15
I stayed at the 4* Shanshui Resort Hotel outside Suzhou. This city is well worth a visit, one hour by train from Shanghai Ė very old, canals, gardens (and hookers). The Hairdresser and Beautician is a front for the working girl. I hovered outside and was approached by one of the staff for a massage in my room for 45yuan. Once in my room, I was offered full sex for 1000. Although I now realise this to be way too much, it was my first experience, I liked the girl Ė 21 y.o. Quan Zhou Ė so paid up. Basically, the sex session in China lasts as long as it takes you to come, there is no set time limit. Iím afraid this time it was just 20 mins of solid sex and hand job. No oral from either side. It wasnít GVFM but it was my first ever Chinese girl so I wasnít worried. Interestingly, this girl came up to my room the second night saying she loved me and I wouldnít have to pay. Naked in bed, she asked for 800 so I asked her to leave and she did. The third night, it was the same story, promising Ďíno money, no moneyíí but again, once in my room demanded 600. I asked her to leave and she did.

In Suzhou itself, I stayed in the Triumph hotel, a no star rating and no on-site Ďbeauticianíí. I visited two barber shops on the corner of Baita Dong Lu and Lindun Lu. There were 7 or 8 girls in both establishments, so a very good choice. There were also a couple of other smaller ones nearby which I also visited to check out the goods. In one, I had 20 mins with 24 y.o. Yu Li. Attractive, bubbly, large breasts. Good screw, oral both ways. I paid her 300Y and the mama san 100Y when I left. Half an hour later I was in the other BBS with 22 y.o. Si Si. Mama san wanted to give me one of the girls, in fact, the one I would have least chosen. I insisted on making the choice and eventually got my way. She had just had a boob job so I had to be careful with her breasts, they were still very small. She was absolutely the tops. No mouth job, but her screwing in several different positions was quite something. She finished me off by hand using oil. This session was 50 min. I paid her 200Y, gave her 50Y tip and paid papa san 100Y when I left. No doubt that the value for money stakes was much greater with these two girls than with the hotel Ďbeauticiansíí.

Then it was on to Shanghai.......

AquaSponge1
05-25-06, 06:19
I went to this place is in Kunshan, which is the near to Suzhou, yesterday.

For those of you who are familiar with the famous Hairy Crabs in this area, you may know of the place where they have river boathouses which serve boiled crabs during the season between September and November each year.

Name of the club: Yang Cheng Hu Dong Fang Ming Zhu Club
Location: near the famous Yang Cheng Lake tourist resorts

It's off season now for crabs so the price at the sauna is 568RMB (400 for FS and 168 for the room). I was told in the peak season, the prices go up to 888RMB. The place is hard to find so if anyone wants needs the telephone number of the place, PM me so that you can ask for the location.

The boss of this place is from Macau and the decoration and atmosphere (including the piped-in music is all Guangdong style). The massage girls here provide FS with 16 (yes! 16!) different kinds of foreplay activities, ranging from the usual hot/cold BBBJ, AR and something new: placing a shorter condom on your big toe (after it has been washed during the shower), lubing it and performing cowgirl with your toe inside! It was a first for me and I will never look at my big toe again without reminding me what it can do to a girl. Sounds kinky but it doesn't end there - one style includes insert a small vibrator up your a-hole (lubed, of course!). I declined on that bit. LOL

You can to select your girls from a lineup brought to your nicely decorated room. Queen size bed with foot massage lounge chairs, bathrooms with hottub and a small sauna room. The course lasts for 90 minutes and the girls are not allowed to leave before this time is up. If you come during any of the foreplay, you have up to 90 minutes to get hard and come again! I had to rush off for a meeting, so I finished up quickly but the front desk had to ring my room to confirm that it was my intention to leave early - and not that the girl was rushing. Great customer service, indeed!

Drinks (non-alcoholic) before you go to your room and after you exit are free in the lounge area near the main reception lobby. This place serves as a hotel too. If you come late and wish to stay the night in your room, the room charge will be 300RMB. Pay the girl after the deed in cash.

Needless to say, this place is repeat for me (except for the hairy crab season).

Cheers!

wundie7
06-05-06, 17:47
Dear mongers,

since this is the first time I contribute to the forum I would like to thank all the other forum members for making this forum a very helpful source of information. I did profit much as a "read only".

However, I will not start with a question as is common for newbees.

I've been to Suzhou for some days and found some barbershops, which, to my knowledge havenīt been reported yet. Hereīs the guide to find them: When you exit Sheraton hotel turn left and follow In Shi road to the next intersection, turn right into Ji Qing Jie. In this street I found 10+ BBS, shurely offering more than a bad haircut. Didnīt tried their service though, so no info if FS is possible.

I've been to Dream Hollywood on a monday evening as well, and it was more than dead.

So I left Suzhou without any action

Happy hunting,

Wundie

wundie7
06-05-06, 18:09
Dear mongers,

Since this is the first time I contribute to the forum I would like to thank all the other forum members for making this forum a very helpful source of information. I did profit much as a "read only".

However, I will not start with a question as is common for newbees.

I've been to Suzhou for some days and found some barbershops, which, to my knowledge havenīt been reported yet. When you exit Sheraton hotel turn left and follow In Shi road to the next intersection, turn right into Ji Qing Jie. In this street I found 10 or more BBS, shurely offering more than a bad haircut. Didnīt tried their service though, so no info if FS is possible.

I've been to Dream Hollywood on a monday evening as well, and it was more than dead.

So I left Suzhou without any action.

Happy hunting,

Wundie

AquaSponge1
06-06-06, 07:41
Next time leave a message in advance or you can Private Message (PM) us.
Just buy the full subscription membership to use the PM utility.

Did you stay at the Sheraton? You could've have tried the in-house sauna.

Diamond Head
06-06-06, 15:47
Yes, the Sheraton sauna is a good place to "relax" but it is pricey if you want the action in your room. The massage room doors have windows but I guess the girl can turn the lights off and a BJ is possible. As I reported earlier, I thought #18 was especially attractive.

Can anyone give an updated report on the sauna action at any of the other hotels, e.g. Suzhou Hotel, Nanyuan or Nanlin? Appreciated.

TangZhen
06-08-06, 15:31
I had some free time in the afternoon so I tried a sauna place near the office where I had finished a meeting. I did the soak thing in a pool with very hot water. I could only put up with it for 5 minutes maybe because it was so hot. After a bit of a shower, I went to the relaxing room for a bit, got a foot massage and a coke which I knew would be a bit pricy but not too bad. Went to the desk and told them I would like a massage, waited for a bit and a girl named Wang came by to go to the room. She was ok looking but nothing special by my rather jaded eye, so she went over the menu which was basically oral play 288, FS 500. Considered it a bit, and decided to take a pass and go back out for a simple body massage (60RMB for 45 minutes). Went downstairs to check out and the bill came to 120, but they said 100 was enough.

I then went over the LuoFeng and picked out a BBS girl who was about the same level of looks, and quite hot for sex. 150 RMB. I did not even bother to negociate as that is the standard price in Shenzhen.

So the bottom line was 250 (less than half the price compared to having sex in the sauna), plus I get the normal back massage. I just wish the small room at the BBS had a bit more ventilation. BBS rooms here seem to be a bit less nice that what I am used to in Shenzhen. I guess I am spoiled.

Number Slevin
06-08-06, 16:49
Hello mongols,

This is my first post. I've been in Suzhou for a few weeks now and I was wondering are there any good massages places that provide hand release or BJ? No showers in saunas or any dirty BBS but a nice massage place with nice girls that will massage and do the extras?

Diamond Head
06-08-06, 20:19
Welcome to ISG Number Slevin. RTFF.

Diamond Head
06-08-06, 20:23
TangZhen: Maybe you could share with us an address for "this sauna place near the office." That's what we do here, we share information.

TangZhen
06-09-06, 15:47
I think finding average quality sauna places is about as hard as finding a McDonalds. I did not write down the address, but you can go to 125 DongHuan Lu and look about for about 3 minutes to find it.


TangZhen: Maybe you could share with us an address for "this sauna place near the office." That's what we do here, we share information.

AquaSponge1
06-10-06, 02:05
Err....since when we dick heads became part of the roaming tribe?
I think you meant mongers.

Woodleg99
06-19-06, 16:08
I travel to Suzhou quite frequently and sometimes do some mongering. I have mixed experience of Siquan road, sometimes very good BBJ even with CIM, sometimes lousy experience.

Anyhow this time I decided to try a sauna. My only sauna experience from before is Skyline sauna in Shanghai; where I have been very satisfied most times.

As recommended in the forum i went to Xing hailang. I showed the biz-card to the taxidriver, who had no problem to find. Well there they seemed to think it was very funny with a foreign customer. After some trouble t was at least clear for them what I wanted.

I got a local girl, 22 yo. We started of with in the forum earlier desribed bath, which was pretty good. However going into the sexact she was not very willing and also seemed to think I was too big. In overall not a very good experience, I'm probably back on Siquan road next time

SidTheSexist
06-23-06, 06:03
Hi Guys,
I should be travelling to suzhou on business in about 2 weeks. I will only be there two nights but I will definatley be interested in some fun. My colleagues all have similar intentions however do not post on this forum. As im not a huge fan of the whole sauna scene (see beijing posts) I'm especially interested in girly bars or regular bars with freelancers working. Im currently checking off the FR's with a map I have found on google and it appears that ShiQuan Street is the place for my intended activity. It also appears that this road is in the middle of town which is even better as I will be staying in one of the large western hotels (TBC).
Can anyone provide some updated reports or info on the various bars on ShiQuan St.? I would also like to know if theres any of the bigger hotels have the usual pick up joint bars in their basements or hidden inside somewhere not obvious. Over the last few weeks ive been around a few cities and would never have found some of the best bars if it wasnt for info from members. eg, shangri la dalian, bar in basement. Holiday inn shenyang, Irish bar on 5th floor etc etc.
Also, any info on the regular discos with freebie girls, would be most appreciated.
Feel free to ask me for Beijing info
Cheers
sid

AquaSponge1
06-23-06, 07:24
Hi Sid,
Welcome to Suzhou! You and your buddies will not go wrong visiting the bars along Siquan Road. There are pros working there who offer ST upstairs of the bars. If you are hungry, check out a nice Chinese dumpling restaurant, Yang Yang Dumplings (recommended by Lonely Planet - the guidebook). It is along Siquan Road too.

Not sure about the barscene with the major hotels in Suzhou. This city seems squeaky clean compared to Shanghai.

Enjoy!
Aqua

SidTheSexist
06-23-06, 09:59
aqua,
thanks for the confirmation and the speed which it was given. just one thing about these "bars" though. are they the type of places where locals/expats can hangout with the st upstairs as an added option, or are they more like blatant knocking shops?? i dont think the latter would go down as well with my buddys than say, somewhere the equivalent of maggies in beijing but with short time rooms on site.
obviously this info is going to result in fr's. just gotta make sure i make efficient use of the short time i will have.
thanks again.
sid

AquaSponge1
06-27-06, 07:01
Sid,
The bars there are not large scale operations like Maggies or HRC in Beijing.
They look more like small pubs. I have seen more expats than locals hanging out there. You and your buddies can bar-hop along the street in search of suitable ST's. There are also a few budget hotels along the street in case you feel like LT there.

If karaoke is your kind of thing, you and your buddies can go the "main shopping street" - Pedestrain Street 步行街. Near the large carpark, there is a large multi-storey building which as a good KTV place (although not cheap...2000RMB room+drinks, girl's tips at 300RMB each). The KTV is located on the second floor and is called, Soho Paradise. I believe Friday nights is "flight attendant" nite while Saturday nights are "Jgirl students nite". Girls are decked out in the respective costumes for selection.

Of course, there is also a nice FS sauna place mentioned in this thread. This is near the Suzhou Sheraton Hotel.


Cheers!
Aqua

SidTheSexist
06-28-06, 06:17
Aqua,
Thanks a lot. Great info, exactly what I need to arm myself with for my two nights in Suzhou. Keep up the good work/mongering/posting and I will surely be adding to it after my trip.
cheers
Sid

Zhang Nuaa
07-10-06, 11:06
I see some new words here, and any dictionary can't find them.

fs, bbs, bj, bbbj,hj. Does anyone know what they indicate?

EDITOR'S SUGGESTION: There is a link labeled "Abbreviations" in the menu bar at the top of this page. This will take you to the Forum's Glossary where you will find a chart with most of the Terms & Abbreviations used in the Forum. Thanks!

Bnlee2
07-10-06, 21:38
I see some new words here, and any dictionary can't find them.

fs, bbs, bj, bbbj,hj. Does anyone know what they indicate?

EDITOR'S SUGGESTION: There is a link labeled "Abbreviations" in the menu bar at the top of this page. This will take you to the Forum's Glossary where you will find a chart with most of the Terms & Abbreviations used in the Forum. Thanks!

Hey newbie.

also find out what RTTF means too. You newbies have to do some serious reading. You need to learn how to wipe your butt all by yourself. Do not be so friggin dependent. Grow Up and learn.

AquaSponge1
07-11-06, 04:24
Newbie - read this section for more information.

It's not important for you to learn these terms, rather, it is more important for you to post your mongering information here on this Forum.

Santa
07-11-06, 06:05
Hey newbie.

also find out what RTTF means too. You newbies have to do some serious reading. You need to learn how to wipe your butt all by yourself. Do not be so friggin dependent. Grow Up and learn.

Bnlee2. You are right, but I think that's being a little too harsh. I think we should try to be more welcoming to new members.

Maybe Zhang Nuaa is not a native english speaker and finds the website difficult to read.

SidTheSexist
07-11-06, 06:09
Stayed at the Bamboo Grove over the weekend. Very nice hotel, highly recommended. Very close to Shiquan road where the majority of the action appears to be. Had massage centre downstairs with menu in the rooms. Quite expensive at 100rmb/30mins and HJ starting off at 600rmb. I gathered this info from a friend as I preferred the services of the bar girls. I believe a HJ was negotiated down to about 300, which IMO is ridiculous. Anyway, posts to follow.
Sid

AquaSponge1
07-11-06, 07:54
Hi Sid,
Glad to hear you had a good time in Suzhou.
I am also glad that you did not get ripped off for that HJ.
Looking forward to your posts....Cheers!

SidTheSexist
07-12-06, 03:50
My fist night in Suzhou, I decided to hit, what appears to be, the main bar street. That is ShiQuan road. As mentioned earlier, this is not far from my hotel, Bamboo grove. First impression of this place was, wow, Am I in thailand?? Girls hanging out of the small dark bars along the street calling from the other side of the road! "helllllloooo, come insiiiiiiiiide!!!" A huge change from boring old Beijing. This place has got atmosphere. Anyway, checked out some of the regular bars during the evening and then hit the disco for an hour or so. There really didnt seem to be a great deal of local girls available in the regular bars. Dont know why, just seemed rather quiet. Came out of the disco and walked along to Medusa bar ( I think). Just a one of the many, small, seedy ST bars on the street. Got chatting with a few of the girls. The WG's seem to be very nice, however, unfortunatley there seems to be a lot of pressure from the mamasans. In fact, I would almost replace the word mamasan with pimp, it was that bad in some cases. I read on the forum that going upstairs can lead into a rip off so I decided against it and told the girl I liked, that I would take her back to my hotel. She was so friendly and nice in the bar, and was promising all sorts of good things in the room. So paid the bill and an extra 50 for mama (which I had to insist on not paying any higher) and off we went. I had negotiated her from original 800rmb offer down to 300rmb ST.
In the room, we showered together and then hit the sack. Started with BBBJ but was motioned pretty quickly into FS. As soon as BBBJ was finished, the GFE she had been displaying in the bar quickly dissappeared and the usual, "cum quickly," routine was in place. I immediatley warned her that one more comment reffering to cumming quickly would result in me chucking her out without a penny. So she gave that up, but FS became almost a chore. In came the starfish routine!! Complaints of too big, reluctance to do doggy, or even cowgirl etc etc. I banged away for 20 mins but found it hard to cum, given her performance. I decided she definatley warranted COF for her poor performance so I finished the job and she was out within another 5 mins.
Price: Good
Looks: 8/10
Performance: 3/10
Value: 5/10
Just to note. I was flicking through the brochure/guide which is on the table in my room, and I noticed their policy as being NOT guest friendly! Whilst I didnt get any bother over both of my nights stay, they do have it in writing that guests are not allowed.
Sid

SidTheSexist
07-14-06, 06:30
My second night seen pretty much the same routine as the first and I ended up at the same short time bar too. It was a girl who I seen the night before, but after the one I took had latched on to me. We got chatting and having some fun with a couple of the other girls. I bought a few drinks for them too as they're only 10rmb for a bottle. Great!
So I made the appropriate moves on the girl I wanted only for her to tell me the river was running red!!! :(:(:( nightmare! However, all was not lost. I had by this time, fallen for this girls looks and attitude and I wanted her in my bed. She told me upfront so at least she was honest too. I negotiated her to 250 for LT and multiple HJ's BBBJ's etc. Dont worry guys, FS was not on my agenda. We got back to my room after quite a bit of hassle with the lady pimps who were trying to demand I tell them how much I would be paying. I told them to get stuffed and that it was between me and the girl. Anyway, in the room, she was great GFE and loads of fun. Body was fine and tits were lovely. A good handfull with even some spare. I ended up falling asleep without any shots off. In the morning, I woke up to a nice BBBJ finished with a very relaxing HJ. The thing which suprised me most was the look of shock on her face when I shot my whack. She done well enough to be excused from the customary COF and so I positioned her hand just over my bell so it wouldnt go all over. When I came, she almost had kittens. Jumped up and ran into the bathroom to wash it off.
She was still laughing and joking and generally GFE all the way up to when I sent her out. She was a little upset because I made her walk out of the hotel alone. Overall a great experience in SuZhou and enjoyed every minute. Im suprised there isnt more reports in this thread. There seems to be lots of action.
Cheers SuZhou, and guys who passed on info.
Sid

Meaty
07-17-06, 03:33
....She done well enough to be excused from the customary COF and so I positioned her hand just over my bell so it wouldnt go all over...

....I decided she definatley warranted COF for her poor performance

Absolutely excellent Judiciary system Judge Sid :D :D :D

Lao Wei76
07-17-06, 09:27
First, I want to make a great compliment, the Site is giving realy the necessary informations to survive!

As I am new moved to Kunshan (Suzhou was the nearest matching Area in the Forum), I will be glad to share some informations with you, and of course get some!

Up to now, I just can Report you about the BBS in Kunshan. There are some Main Roads, where you can find them, hope soon I have their names. Neverless, you can find them all over Kunshan, just look out a bit.

The Major in Kunshan are KTV to catch working Girls, as Kunshan is sieged mainly by Taiwanese, and they love that. But as I don't like them at all, you will not get many Reports about them.

Hope next Time I can help you more, and give you the real adresses.

Zhang Nuaa
07-20-06, 04:13
Thanks for the editors, I now exactly know what the abbrevations used in the forum. My native language is Chinese, and I don't'do any mongering. I am still at study. And I am a student in Nanjing Aerospace and Atronauty University. Unfortuately I have never been to any barborship in Suzhou.

And I have another question, everytime I want to visit the website, my 'internet explorer' will say it leads to a wrong position. And I think its reason is the 'goldenshield project' by the chinese government which is used to block pornographic and political information to spray out.

So I have to use some software to get rid of the blockage. I learn there is a good soft' Phenix safe netware', and its function is to make a virtual network card in your computer. When I visit a website whick can detect your IP, it say I am in Holland! So after using the phenix, I can easily visit ISG. I wonder whether everyone here meet with the question above? And what your method to solve it?

Btw, Does anyone who wants to learn Chinese? You can write to me 'archbishop123456at163.com'. I hope the goldenshield will not block emails too severely.

Hippie
07-20-06, 14:58
Zhang Nuaa, I am also in Nanjing, and I have no trouble accessing this site. Are you trying to access it from the university computers, by any chance? Also, I'm curious why you are posting on the Suzhou topic instead of Nanjing? Nanjing has far more barbershops and KTVs than Suzhou from what I have seen. And if you are not a monger, why are you viewing this site?

Zhang Nuaa
07-21-06, 08:19
Yes, usually I visit ISG from university network, maybe there exists rigorous censorship. And my home is in Suzhou, now it is the summer vocation time, so I come home.

As I know , monger is "A dealer in a specific commodity. Often used in combination", monger is the same as merchant, I think. Is there any other meaning here? If you hint hunting for girls, I'm sorry that I am a virginboy.Don't LOL. China now is forbidden for prostituion, but if you are a foreigner, the Gov will ignore what you do even if you break the ban because they think foreigners will take great profit to national industry and they won't disgruntle foreigners.

However, if I am catched by the police, I will be punished severely and be forced to leave school. Although it's a disparity between foreigners and indigens but we can't say anything against the Gov .If we do so, we may be prisoned as ridiculous accusal such as betrayal or vilification .

So I have to finish the school as soon as possible and take a job overseas, then I can have freedom. someone said "where there exists freedom , whereabout is my country"(Maybe mistaken). Now I visit ISG to learn experiences from predecessors , and when I have other country's nationality, I can come back and hunt as a foreigner, hahahaha!

BTW, if I join Gov office , I can have the right also. But that is despised and looked down upon by common people.

Meaty
07-26-06, 06:21
As I know , monger is "A dealer in a specific commodity. Often used in combination", monger is the same as merchant, I think. Is there any other meaning here? If you hint hunting for girls, I'm sorry that I am a virginboy.Don't LOL. China now is forbidden for prostituion
RAOTFLMAO - Zhang Nuaa, no offence intended, but you're going to be as much use on this forum as a chocolate kettle :D Not only do you not partake in the subject matter, you also have no knowledge of it, nor do you wish to :D I think Yahoo forums might better server your hunger for online friendships :D Peace, as i said, not trying to offend, just trying to get you on track !

Needs Kink
08-05-06, 16:04
RAOTFLMAO - Zhang Nuaa, no offence intended, but you're going to be as much use on this forum as a chocolate kettle :D Not only do you not partake in the subject matter, you also have no knowledge of it, nor do you wish to :D I think Yahoo forums might better server your hunger for online friendships :D Peace, as i said, not trying to offend, just trying to get you on track !Zhang is providing us with a unique view of the hobby from an "insiders" point. Knowing how local society and LE views the hobby can get all of us long way.

Thank You Zhang, Study hard, Get hired oversees, and get the hobby started. "monger" is not the merchant, he is the buyer/hunter of services.

Needs Kink
08-05-06, 16:09
I am 5 days into Suzhou. New to mongering after a 10 year pause. 2nd night in Aster hotel I get a late night phone call for ďmassagieĒ after some ethical hesitation I say how much? 200rmb is the answer.

She comes to the room and she says 2500 for FS. After what seemed liked 15 minutes of negotiating shed had 100rmb in her pocket and wouldn't budge past 600. I say good bye and toss her out. 100 rmb wasted.

2 hours later she knocks on the door again and we agree on 500 for HJ. I didn't want FS. I finished on her legs and the deal is over. I try to pay her 400 since she already had 100 but I couldn't get her to leave until i gave her 50.

Total was 450 for in room HJ no massage, Chalk it up to learning curve
Face 6
body 8
service 2

I liked the heart pounding of doing something "wrong" so next night i walked east down Dao Qian rd. A "wolf" guy tells me there is a good place with girls just down the street. I end up in a KTV bar and mammasan says 100 for all night room 200 for each girl 20 for beers. I thought my bases were covered so I took the bait and asked for two girls. Typical reported KTV experience with the food trays and extra drinks pushed. Fortunately I strongly objected to all extras. The two girls agreed to come to hotel for an additional 300 rmb each. They wanted the money up font. I offered 100 up front and 200 when complete. Another mistake but i was two damn eager at getting a three-way. They very quickly brang into the room mammasan and pappasan with my bill of 800 rmb. It didn't add up and I didn't know the police call trick. I only had 600 on me so I was nervous and figured my career and home life didn't need to know about this. I threw the 600 on the floor and high tailed it out of there.

Total was 600 for one beer, bad karaoke, and a little clothed touching with two
late 20's early 30's girls.
faces 4/6
bodies 6/7
service 0/0

Lesson here, think with your big head and don't get too eager.

Later that night Iím still worked up so I head to Guan Qian at about 11:00pm
A work buddy told me about a legit foot massage there so I gave it a try hoping for some action. It is on the east side, one street south of Guan Qian, around the corner from the tex-mex bar.

I go inside and a guy discretely asks if I want massage or FS. He says FS 600rmb, I say ok to 500rmb but I want to see girl first, I think he wanted me to pay up front but then he led me to a room. A very solid 9 girl walks in but she says she is not working girl. I see some uglies walking the hall and local men in robes. She tells me to go shower. I decide ďFĒ this and just walk out, not wanting to get burned twice in one night.

I take a cab back, disappointed and have a friendly chat the cab driver (no Chinese but gestures) He gets the picture and he "accidentally" passes by a strip of about 10 BBS's and takes me to my hotel. I tell him to turn around and go back to the girls. He passes the strip of ten and says "no good" I saw two cops watching the street. Turns a few corners and drops me in front of another BBS. I ask him how much and he says 300. I caught him signing "3" to the girls so I figured he was in with them and could have got less. I figure three isn't bad and go for it.

It was a dingy room but the girls were very cute and lower 20's. I ask for two girls for 300 and they quickly agree. They refused to completely undress or do BJ so I settled for HJ. When I asked them to lick each other they giggled and called in the mamasan (upper thirties but not repulsive). They agreed for an extra 200. Mamasan stayed and id most of the hand work while they other two kissed me, each other and licked my body. When I was about to finish I had each girl squatting on each side with my FIV (plural!) and blew a very satisfying load. Surprisingly they cleaned me up and began a massage. Both girls stayed with me in an odd GFE type thing one playing with her cell phone and trying to take my picture. I managed to delete any photos she took. I left with all four of us happy and giggling.

Total 500 for 2 hotties and one mamasan for HJ with bonus.
Faces 7/8/2
Bodies 8/8/n.a.
Service 9/9/9

Keep in mind I speak no Chinese yet, have been in the game 2 days, and found this forum today.

Happy hunting!


EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for directions for posting a link to a specific report.

Moody
08-05-06, 17:14
Needs Kink,

Let me offer up a couple of pieces of advice to help enlighten you about the landscape for available services in China. I've never been to Suzhou, but the following applies pretty much throughout the country.

First of all, KTV. Almost all KTVs have a minimum purchase. Let's say that the minimum purchase is 800. Whether you have one beer that costs 20RMB or forty beers that cost 20RMB each, you will be charged 800RMB. If happen to have 41 beers at 20RMB each, you will be charged 820RMB. You will be charged the room minimum whether you spend 1 minute in the room, or you stay there for 7+ hours until closing time which is usually 2AM. That said, I believe you were most likely ripped off. 800RMB minimum is VERY high. Usually, for a small room, the minimum is something like 500-600RMB at the best KTVs.

At most BBSes throughout the country, the going rate is 150RMB per girl. Yes it's possible to find it cheaper (as low as 100RMB during CNY or at some remote places), but the going rate is usually 150RMB. I've never heard of a BBS place that charges higher than that. If anybody quotes you a higher price, just tell them you know the price is 150RMB.

I think you should try a sauna. Find one in a decent CHINESE hotel. Almost all Chinese hotels will have a sauna that offers extra services. Typical cost is around 250RMB for the room and 300RMB tip for the girl for 2 hours or so. It's more expensive than a BBS, but usually, the service is better.

One last thing, the massage girl who charged you 500RMB for a HJ, as I'm sure you already know, overcharged you. You can usually find a massage place that gives HJ as an extra if you get 2 hours of massage at the usual rate of 30RMB per hour or, some places the girl will request a 50-100RMB tip. At a lot of massage places, you can arrange for the girl to come to your place if you agree to 2 hours.

Old Mean Dog
08-06-06, 02:37
Needs Kink,

Suzhou is so full of BBS's, the city takes on a neon blue color at night. Try heading over to Student Street which is off Renmin St. There are plenty of little bars and small KTV's there that offer the full service, a few shops that front as foot massage joints and the next little street over is nothing but BBS's (some quality here, I sampled the merchandise). The standard fee, just as Moody explained, is 150 yuan per pop.

Have Fun,

SZExpat

Henning
08-18-06, 14:05
Next month between September 22 and 25 I have to go to Suzhou for 3 days, the travel agent suggested Gloria Plaza Hotel or New City Garden Hotel.

As these two hotels are not as popular in this forum like the Sheraton I would like some additional information:

Which is the better one concerning quality and location? Are they girl-frienldy?

If anyone want to meet during this time, just drop me a pm.

Thanks

Old Mean Dog
08-18-06, 17:39
Next month between September 22 and 25 I have to go to Suzhou for 3 days, the travel agent suggested Gloria Plaza Hotel or New City Garden Hotel.

As these two hotels are not as popular in this forum like the Sheraton I would like some additional information:

Which is the better one concerning quality and location? Are they girl-frienldy?

If anyone want to meet during this time, just drop me a pm.

ThanksDepends on what you want. If you want a clean, nice, no frills, cheap hotel that is girl friendly, I would suggest the Yachingir Inn 0512-65294127 65296927 or 65294309 it is located dead center on the "laowai" street where all the good bars, discos, shops and restaurants are. I stayed here for 3 nights about 7 months ago and it was around 200 yuan a night. Otherwise I would choose the Gloria Plaza Hotel, never stayed here but seems nice from the outside.

Cardenio98
08-27-06, 11:19
Hey guys,

Just thought I would make a quick post as I am in Suzhou right now staying at the newly opened Shangri-La. Last night had dinner with my supplier so no time for checking out the action.

Just a word of caution to you all: there are late night nazis on the elevator so definitely not a girl friendly hotel. The girl I was with (legitimate supplier, not working girl) insisted on walking me to the elevator and was challenged twice: once in the lobby and then again at the elevator. Time was 11PM. I made a recon trip to the lobby at nearly 1AM and they were still there.

Looked in the hotel service directory and there is a night club, KTV and sauna opening sometime in late 2006. This might be an option in the future as you can avoid the nazis on the elevater in the lobby. Would provide a legitimate place to go before the room but right now the hotel is definitely a no go.

Just for the info of you all!

Katho
08-28-06, 19:10
Hi,

Thanks a lot, will come over in 2 months, hope in the meantime everything is much more easier ! Do you found other hotels ?

Thanks,

Katho


Hey guys,

Just thought I would make a quick post as I am in Suzhou right now staying at the newly opened Shangri-La. Last night had dinner with my supplier so no time for checking out the action.

Just a word of caution to you all: there are late night nazis on the elevator so definitely not a girl friendly hotel. The girl I was with (legitimate supplier, not working girl) insisted on walking me to the elevator and was challenged twice: once in the lobby and then again at the elevator. Time was 11PM. I made a recon trip to the lobby at nearly 1AM and they were still there.

Looked in the hotel service directory and there is a night club, KTV and sauna opening sometime in late 2006. This might be an option in the future as you can avoid the nazis on the elevater in the lobby. Would provide a legitimate place to go before the room but right now the hotel is definitely a no go.

Just for the info of you all!

Ffnantes
08-29-06, 17:10
Hi,

I will stay at Scholars Hotel in Suzhou Industrial Park, which is a bit far from downtown I think.

Do you have any informatio about hotels, saunas or BBS in this area?
Thanks for your help

Frank

AquaSponge1
09-02-06, 07:25
Hi,

I will stay at Scholars Hotel in Suzhou Industrial Park, which is a bit far from downtown I think.

Do you have any informatio about hotels, saunas or BBS in this area?
Thanks for your help

Frank

Frank,
RTTF or take a taxi to Shi Quan Street inside the town area.

OldAsiaHand
09-02-06, 10:47
At it again Frank?


Hi,

I will stay at Scholars Hotel in Suzhou Industrial Park, which is a bit far from downtown I think.

Do you have any informatio about hotels, saunas or BBS in this area?
Thanks for your help

Frank

Zzyzxrd
09-07-06, 04:04
It shall be nice to visit China. I have heard so much about Suzhou.

Sheraton was a backup plan as the renaisance was all booked. Is the Sheraton Towers good hotel?

Cant wait to get their.

AquaSponge1
09-07-06, 09:28
It shall be nice to visit China. I have heard so much about Suzhou.

Sheraton was a backup plan as the renaisance was all booked. Is the Sheraton Towers good hotel?

Cant wait to get their.


Try the new Suzhou Shangri-La! It's the tallest building west of the city. The Suzhou Sheraton is pretty old and it is not a high-rise type hotel. It's built to be like an old Chinese fort-type of building with small units (rooms).

Katho
09-08-06, 18:25
I will stay there as well . Hope it is more girl friendly then reported. Do anybody know some nice places for massage in the area close to the hotel ? Or may there is a chance to get a girl for the night in the hotel ? Has anybody made this before?

See you, Katho

Buckeyed
09-09-06, 03:02
It shall be nice to visit China. I have heard so much about Suzhou.

Sheraton was a backup plan as the renaisance was all booked. Is the Sheraton Towers good hotel?

Cant wait to get their.Either Sheraton or Bamboo Grove are both good choices in terms of being close to the action. Sheraton is good because if you're back before 12 you can enter without going through the lobby. Several massage places within a block but never have been offerred anything extra. The upstairs bar area something has a 4 or 5 working girl sitting on the far side.

Blackeyes
09-11-06, 13:43
Hi All,

Just been reading up on Suzhou as plan to revisit there soon. I am a little shocked at some of the prices being paid for FS. Last time in Suzhou, 2 years ago, I was called into a little bar near the Suzhou Hotel. Sorry, name escapes me but the bar area was very small, 3 or 4 girls in there. One caught my eye, very skinny and not bad looking, 22 yo, bought her a bottle of Tsingdao, usual small talk for half an hour downstairs, and explaining I didn't want a girl or a room, finally weakened and paid RMB 100 for the room up-front. Was accompanied upstairs by skinny girl and our drinks. Little bit of small talk and clothed touching in the small room upstairs - no bed, but more of a wrap around the small room red immitation leather couch. One thing led to another, off came my pants, her pants, BBBJ followed by condom - requested by me - FS, quite a challenge given the facilities but I was only there for one night and going for it, girl was quite up for it too, and accommodating. After various intersesting positions, and she was nubile, I finally reached the finishing post and took my time to withdraw. Condom torn to shreds around the base of my dick! I was a little concerned but girl just burst out laughing at the sight - maybe she was laughing at my dick! Anyway, dressed up and cleaned up, finished out beers and paid her 250 and on my way. She was asking for 300 but I live in Shanghai and never pay more than 200, usually 150, so I figured she was doing OK. She was a bit pissed off though, but I assumed 250 was a fair price. Anyway, will return during the Chinese holiday in 3 weeks time, stay at the Suzhou Hotel and hopefully take one back with me for the night and a bit more comfort, but I aint paying no 800 yuan!

Katho
09-25-06, 21:19
Was in Shangri la Hotel. It was as expacted, no action due to missing bar , sauna or anything else. But close to the hotel the down down street is locaded. On the beginning, on the other side of the street a big building with KTV and restaurants is locaded. On the right side of the building, secound floor a massage and sauna was found. Was there two times, service is not bad, changed a little bit between each girl. More or less safer , damage was about 600 RMB plus extras for sauna and so on.
Action is comparable to Shanghai Hotel, but no change for choise the girl before.

Means, try ad report

Hope you have a good time there!

Bye, Katho

By the way, had never a girl for the night in the hotel. If someone have some ideas let me/us know :-)

Rovemor
10-01-06, 07:30
Through out this thread I have seen Shi Quan Jie spelled several different ways. The street name is spelled in Pin Yan in the previous sentance. The name in Simplified Chinese is ŚćĀŚÖ®Ť°ó. The major concentration of bars, and BBS are located several major intersections east of Ren Min Lu (šļļśįĎŤ∑Į).

Sz Maxiu
10-03-06, 09:31
I've been to many of the massage places in the SIP, but haven't found one which offerend a happy ending. Even when I subtley (but obviously) asked.

I don't mind going down to Shi Quan Jie (was there last night), but don't want just drink / negotiate / sex. I want an actual massage followed with a HJ.

Anyone know of a place in the SIP?

Sz Maxiu
10-13-06, 09:24
By the way, I did RTFF and didn't see the SIP addressed except for someone else who asked and was told to RTFF.


I've been to many of the massage places in the SIP, but haven't found one which offerend a happy ending. Even when I subtley (but obviously) asked.

I don't mind going down to Shi Quan Jie (was there last night), but don't want just drink / negotiate / sex. I want an actual massage followed with a HJ.

Anyone know of a place in the SIP?

TangZhen
12-19-06, 04:46
I know Wuxi pretty well and have gone to a number of sauna places there with mainly HJ being the norm. I tried a place I had been before to get FS called the QianHui Sauna (7th floor of the building next to the HuaMeiDa Hotel, with the entrance next to the KFC, 339 ZhongShanLu, phone number 82721111, open 24/7). After giving up my shoes, and changing clothes I was expecting to go the large hot baths area, but I was directed by the clothes guy to go a small room for a shower. Aware that a girl would be giving me the shower, I agreed. Shower type room with vinal bed, wood tub and such. Nice but very average looking girl brought in (Xiao Li from Sichuan) and accepted as this places does not have real hotties so the difference between a 5 and a 5.5 is pretty much no point when other factors will wind up being more important.

Went though the bathing phase and was asked about which service level I would like. I asked about their old VIP rooms and was told they were not available and that my price points were basically 398 and 608. I went for the 608 forgoing the details of what I was getting into. She went off to get her 'things' and came back in a bathrobe. Always a good sign.

First off was a oil body to body massage. Next was a washdown and transfer to a different room. The new rooms were not as large as the old ones, but still quite nice and comfortable. The came in with a long red cloth type rope which I knew would mean an acrobatic display, which indeed followed. IMHO it is nice but not really all that important. After the rope foreplay we started the normal sex session which went well enough.

It is just my personal experience but when a girl does a 'program' I typically dont get too engaged, while when it gets more personal I tend to get harder. This was the case again where the first sex session went acceptable, but after a certain point (my legs getting a bit sore) I asked for a pause and had her sit in front of me while I sat up on the bed and I took the initiative to fondle her. At first she was a bit lost as it was not the program, but her body soon took over and wetness showed she was ready for more, so we went back at it and it clearly was a stronger impression for both of us. Entering this time she was clearly far more impressed by the feeling. After mutual climax (always a good sign), we cleaned up and she said I could rest there and she left. Sometimes I get a nice GFE type of thing where the girl will make sure I know her name, number and contact details, but not this time which was fine with me. It was good sex, very good really, but there are hotter girls and friendlier girls, so not a problem for me.

Downstair it was as advertised at 608 rmb fapiao if you want. Even gave me some coupons for next time, though I think they are not much use for sex.

Mighty75
01-25-07, 08:37
I tried out Shi Quan Jie this past Tuesday. In general it was pretty dead, but it made for easy work at the bars along there. You walk in and instantly have 6 or 7 girls to choose from. I ended up at New Feel Bar. Mamasan asked me right away if I wanted a girl to join me, so I picked one out. Very friendly, started feeling on me immediately. We negotiated price and went upstairs. FS 300 RMB for her, 100 RMB for Mamasan. Maybe this is a little much, but I wasn't sure what going rate is now in Suzhou. Girl was really good. BBBJ, lots of positions, no hurry up attitude. I'd go back again.

I am looking for a good sauna place with massage experience. I haven't seen any posts lately on this topic. Anybody have recommendations? I'm in the Sheraton and have spent some time walking around town but the only places I've found are small massage places that are either legit, or just offer HJ quickies. I want the full experience that people have posted about at Xing Hailang or something similar. Will a taxi driver know where this is?

Paperino69
01-31-07, 13:33
I am looking for a good sauna place with massage experience. I haven't seen any posts lately on this topic. Anybody have recommendations? I'm in the Sheraton and have spent some time walking around town but the only places I've found are small massage places that are either legit, or just offer HJ quickies. I want the full experience that people have posted about at Xing Hailang or something similar. Will a taxi driver know where this is?[/QUOTE]Dear Migthy 75,

Hostun hotel (sometime spelled Hoston) offers such service, at least until little ago. Just enter in the lobby than turn left, where is the entrance of male pool.

Ground floor offers three pools (2 hot and one cold) plus basic massage area. As you are ok you get a shower than move upstairs, first floor as a decompression area with foot massage and head massage. If you ask for something more they take you to the second floor (third floor to chinese standards) and there you will be taken to small rooms where one or few ladies wil join you after a while.

Service was 268 RMB for massage+HJ, 368 RMB for BM + HJ, 468 RMB for BM + CBJ and 668 RMB for FS. Use to stay there quite often, had mixed esperience but usually good, it always depends on the lady you find. Unfortunately I don't speak chinese and this doesn't help.

Last time I was there had no service offered at all, don't know if it was due to the late hour or if the policy somehow changed.

Just say the taxi driver "hostn" or have him to go to the end of Ren Min Lu, where is a big antenna ala Eiffel tower.

Xerus
02-16-07, 05:15
I know Wuxi pretty well and have gone to a number of sauna places there with mainly HJ being the norm. I tried a place I had been before to get FS called the QianHui Sauna (7th floor of the building next to the HuaMeiDa Hotel, with the entrance next to the KFC, 339 ZhongShanLu, phone number 82721111, open 24/7). After giving up my shoes, and changing clothes I was expecting to go the large hot baths area, but I was directed by the clothes guy to go a small room for a shower. Aware that a girl would be giving me the shower, I agreed. Shower type room with vinal bed, wood tub and such. Nice but very average looking girl brought in (Xiao Li from Sichuan) and accepted as this places does not have real hotties so the difference between a 5 and a 5.5 is pretty much no point when other factors will wind up being more important.

Went though the bathing phase and was asked about which service level I would like. I asked about their old VIP rooms and was told they were not available and that my price points were basically 398 and 608. I went for the 608 forgoing the details of what I was getting into. She went off to get her 'things' and came back in a bathrobe. Always a good sign.

First off was a oil body to body massage. Next was a washdown and transfer to a different room. The new rooms were not as large as the old ones, but still quite nice and comfortable. The came in with a long red cloth type rope which I knew would mean an acrobatic display, which indeed followed. IMHO it is nice but not really all that important. After the rope foreplay we started the normal sex session which went well enough.

It is just my personal experience but when a girl does a 'program' I typically dont get too engaged, while when it gets more personal I tend to get harder. This was the case again where the first sex session went acceptable, but after a certain point (my legs getting a bit sore) I asked for a pause and had her sit in front of me while I sat up on the bed and I took the initiative to fondle her. At first she was a bit lost as it was not the program, but her body soon took over and wetness showed she was ready for more, so we went back at it and it clearly was a stronger impression for both of us. Entering this time she was clearly far more impressed by the feeling. After mutual climax (always a good sign), we cleaned up and she said I could rest there and she left. Sometimes I get a nice GFE type of thing where the girl will make sure I know her name, number and contact details, but not this time which was fine with me. It was good sex, very good really, but there are hotter girls and friendlier girls, so not a problem for me.

Downstair it was as advertised at 608 rmb fapiao if you want. Even gave me some coupons for next time, though I think they are not much use for sex.

Tang Zhen,

I'll be going to Wuxi for 2 weeks next month. Lots of time to spare my weekends. As I have not been to Wuxi or even it's surrounding places, please let me know where I should be heading to for a good time . Your report is great but only limited to one . I'm sure you have many more under your sleeve.

Cheers!

Xerus

TangZhen
02-26-07, 08:08
I have tried a few other saunas in Wuxi, but the one I posted was the best I encountered. There are a few others on Remin Dong Lu I believe it was where you can get service. I posted about them, but it was likely a couple of years ago, and posts from that period dont seem to show up any more. I believe the address was like 101 Remin Dong Lu. Ask a taxi to take you there. Up the street from there back tword the center of town, walking distance, there were a few more places. One is across from Party World ( a Thai restaurant) but I dont recall the name. I only got a wet bed wash there, which was only ok. I likely did not press hard enough for extras to be offered what was available. There are small BBSs all over the place, but Wuxi BBSs are not very comfortable, and are best for people with good Chinese skills who understand what to do, otherwise easy to walk out with a high price lousy lay. Saunas you get a pretty set deal. Look for the characters 休闲. It does not guarantee sex is served and in fact is often normal for any place to relax such as restaurants, but if it has those characters, there is a good chance it is worth looking into.

There are bunches of KTVs you could try, but I have not tried them so I can not comment. If you speak Chinese ask a taxi driver. Above all, I would avoid the touts near the hotels. For the same charge you can go to a sauna and have a nice safe fun time, why bother with touts? I have had no trouble with them in Wuxi, but in Suzhou I got tagged for 100 RMB in the poorest excuse for a KTV. I got lucky to get away so cheap, only because I knew Chinese and bluffed I had cop friends.


Tang Zhen, I'll be going to Wuxi for 2 weeks next month. Lots of time to spare my weekends. As I have not been to Wuxi or even it's surrounding places, please let me know where I should be heading to for a good time . Your report is great but only limited to one .

TangZhen
03-16-07, 13:06
In the 3 or 4 years I have been posting here, I think this is the coolest find. Someone may have already posted about it, but I did not see it here before.

In a taxi I passed an area that seems to have about 30 or more BBS. I mean this is a very popular area for BBSs. I did not have a chance to go into the area as I had commitments, but I am confident if you are looking for BBS selection, this is likely the best in Jiangsu province.

It is a whole block to traditional style Jiangsu buildings with the white walls and tile roofs, located on DongHuan Lu. To get there from the center of town go down GanJiang Lu to DongHuan Lu, make a right on DongHuan, and go about 2 km. You should see the area on the other side of the street. There is really no street address but I would estimate it to be 200 DongHuan Lu. You should pass a New Island Cafe across the street and go maybe 1 more km. Go in the evening after 7 or 8 as I have passed the area during the day and did not notice anything interesting in the area. It looking like the BBS go far into the area and it is a very large area. I would guess it would be many times larger than LuoFung. Unfortunately, I will be leaving in the morning and wont have time to check it out until my next trip.

Schlemil6
03-19-07, 21:47
Hi guys,

I will stay beginning of April one week in Suzhou Shangri-La Hotel again.

Has anybody news regarding entertainment, massage or girl friendliness there?

I was there last time in October and it was very luxuy but boring there. ;)

If the situation has not changed, I will visit the bars in Shi Quan Jie again, which were very funny last time. I can recommend the Mi Lan Bar. Nice girls there.

This time I want to get one or better two girls to my hotel room.

Any ideas what this would cost and how I can manage it the best way?

Thanks,

Schlemil6

Buckeye
03-28-07, 07:56
I had finished visiting the Suzhou museum and the gardens (very beautiful by the way), and I was trying to catch a cab when one of those guys with the tricycle was barking at me about a ride. Since no cabs were available I said how much. That put the conversation in overdrive as he quickly said Massagie, Massagie!! Then a group of the trike clan all came around saying massagie massagie. It was quite a spectacle. Since I had conducting my due diligence on this board prior to leaving I thought I knew the lay of the land, prices, etc. So I accepted his ride to a Massagie for 5 rmb. Big mistake.

After some back roading we end up at a place that is in between the shop windows with women hanging around loosely dressed. A mammasan come out and greet me to take me upstairs. The place was a dump. Very dirty, darkly lit, smoky. She brings me into a room with an old dirty couch with stains that showed an uneasy history with man. I should have walked out right there, but I wanted an adventure to remember and I thought why not ride this one out and see what happens. The mamasan quotes 150 rmb for "massage" and introduces me to a girl more than half my age. After getting comfortable next to me she states a second price of 200 rmb. Then she asks if I want coffee. I say yes. Another women comes with the coffee asks for 30 rmb. So at this point I'm 230 rmb in the hole and I realize that she's trying to squeeze me for more money before the massage. As she asks for more (candy, smoke, etc) I say no. After 15 mins of waiting for a massage room I become impatient and get ready to leave realizing I been taken royally. As I get up to leave (mind you still no massage, even my shoes are still on) the mamasan comes in and demands 658 rmb!! WTF! I am bullshit and try to leave she blocks the door and calls in two guys. Suddenly there are three additional people in the room and they're trying to make me sit down. I am yelling at the top of my lungs and the three of them are holding me away from the door. So here I am in almost a stereotypical situation that you think will never happen to you, with these people trying to rob me. I don't know a lick of mandarin and not communicating with them. Finally I realize that I will tell them to call Police. I can tell the police that all I wanted was a foot massage, was misdirected to this place, and now there stealing from me. I was quite presentable with business casual attire so the chances are they (the police) would believe me. As I started telling them police, call police, their demeanor changed, one guy left the room and the mamasan and a fat guy continued to hassle me for 658 rmb. Suddenly, this "boss" went to 400 rmb, 300 rmb, and 200 rmb. By this time I wanted to get the hell out of there and was ready to strike this guy which would lead no where but to my demize (sp?). So I agreed to the 200 rmb, yelled at the mamasan and the girl F***ing Sha bi (stupid pussy) and got the hell out of dodge. What does this teach some of you? Don't be an idiot like me and for god sakes learn some damn mandarin before going into situations where you can be taken big time. You know what the dumbest thing is? I am seriously considering going to Shi Quan Jie tonight for more exploration. I must get hooked on the adrenalin part of the action.

Bnlee2
03-28-07, 17:42
I had finished visiting the Suzhou museum and the gardens (very beautiful by the way), and I was trying to catch a cab when one of those guys with the tricycle was barking at me about a ride. Since no cabs were available I said how much. That put the conversation in overdrive as he quickly said Massagie, Massagie!! Then a group of the trike clan all came around saying massagie massagie. It was quite a spectacle. Since I had conducting my due diligence on this board prior to leaving I thought I knew the lay of the land, prices, etc. So I accepted his ride to a Massagie for 5 rmb. Big mistake.

After some back roading we end up at a place that is in between the shop windows with women hanging around loosely dressed. A mammasan come out and greet me to take me upstairs. The place was a dump. Very dirty, darkly lit, smoky. She brings me into a room with an old dirty couch with stains that showed an uneasy history with man. I should have walked out right there, but I wanted an adventure to remember and I thought why not ride this one out and see what happens. The mamasan quotes 150 rmb for "massage" and introduces me to a girl more than half my age. After getting comfortable next to me she states a second price of 200 rmb. Then she asks if I want coffee. I say yes. Another women comes with the coffee asks for 30 rmb. So at this point I'm 230 rmb in the hole and I realize that she's trying to squeeze me for more money before the massage. As she asks for more (candy, smoke, etc) I say no. After 15 mins of waiting for a massage room I become impatient and get ready to leave realizing I been taken royally. As I get up to leave (mind you still no massage, even my shoes are still on) the mamasan comes in and demands 658 rmb!! WTF! I am bullshit and try to leave she blocks the door and calls in two guys. Suddenly there are three additional people in the room and they're trying to make me sit down. I am yelling at the top of my lungs and the three of them are holding me away from the door. So here I am in almost a stereotypical situation that you think will never happen to you, with these people trying to rob me. I don't know a lick of mandarin and not communicating with them. Finally I realize that I will tell them to call Police. I can tell the police that all I wanted was a foot massage, was misdirected to this place, and now there stealing from me. I was quite presentable with business casual attire so the chances are they (the police) would believe me. As I started telling them police, call police, their demeanor changed, one guy left the room and the mamasan and a fat guy continued to hassle me for 658 rmb. Suddenly, this "boss" went to 400 rmb, 300 rmb, and 200 rmb. By this time I wanted to get the hell out of there and was ready to strike this guy which would lead no where but to my demize (sp?). So I agreed to the 200 rmb, yelled at the mamasan and the girl F***ing Sha bi (stupid pussy) and got the hell out of dodge. What does this teach some of you? Don't be an idiot like me and for god sakes learn some damn mandarin before going into situations where you can be taken big time. You know what the dumbest thing is? I am seriously considering going to Shi Quan Jie tonight for more exploration. I must get hooked on the adrenalin part of the action.

advice...just four letter... not "fcuk...." or anything like that but rather RTFF in a subtle way.....do it before venturing out again....and go to chinese phrases and learn a few basic or just write it down.
best

Katho
04-06-07, 13:37
Hi guys,

I will stay beginning of April one week in Suzhou Shangri-La Hotel again.

Has anybody news regarding entertainment, massage or girl friendliness there?

This time I want to get one or better two girls to my hotel room.

Any Schlemil6Hi Schlemil6,

Did you found girls for the night and did you had any trouble with the hotel ?

I have to go over in 3 months as well, therefore would be great to know more details.

Thanks,

Katho

Randy Wang
04-07-07, 13:46
Try heading over to Student Street which is off Renmin St.Can you tell us more about where this is? Renmin Lu is of course quite a big street, and never heard of this place!

(But it sounds good.)

Schlemil6
04-11-07, 20:06
Hi Schlemil6,

Did you found girls for the night and did you had any trouble with the hotel ?

I have to go over in 3 months as well, therefore would be great to know more details.

Thanks,

KathoHi Katho,

I found my girls in Shi Quan Jie again. ;)

But surprisingly you can find also professionals in the "Club Red" in the 3rd floor of the Shangri-La Hotel.

I was two times in the club and was both times asked by professionals in the Club.

First time an 29 old(!) girl with her younger friend. Asked for 1000 each, later for 600 but I refused. Too old and too expensive.

Second time two young and cute girls (18 - 20 years). But I also refused, because I just came back from Shi Quan Jie and was too tired. ;)

So the entertainment becomes better there.

Schlemil6

Emmseven
04-14-07, 16:18
Right across the street is a big KTV. It's really nice and we've had some good experiences there. Some girls will go home but I guess it's a little pricey compared to south china KTVs but much cheaper than Shanghai ones.

There's a new place on the back side called Peninsula hot spring club. I'm kind of curious as to what this place is. Anyone have any idea what a hot spring club is?

Emmseven
04-15-07, 12:39
I just realized that this is only my second post here. I guess I've been mongering here for a while and it just seems like I've posted before.

But anyway, so I'm in the hotel today doing some surfing (same hotel as my last post yesterday) and I see the hotel offers a massage/spa on one of the lower floors. I read in the Shanghai thread that pretty much all the hotel here offer some kind of service but I didn't think this hotel would. So, I thought I'd give it a try. Went for the oil massage and it was going normal but then she asked me to turn over and started asking me what I wanted next.

In short, she tried to rip me off but just being curious I spent more than the usual amount. I just was so surprised that this hotel has this kind of service!

Anyway, I need to try the hot spring club in the back next time.

Curiosity is costing me more than it's worth sometimes.

-Emm-

Hot Lover
04-16-07, 14:20
Right across the street is a big KTV. It's really nice and we've had some good experiences there. Some girls will go home but I guess it's a little pricey compared to south china KTVs but much cheaper than Shanghai ones.

There's a new place on the back side called Peninsula hot spring club. I'm kind of curious as to what this place is. Anyone have any idea what a hot spring club is?Great report Emmseven. Can you be a little more precise which action you got for which price. How much to you take for the girl to take home?

You also posted a report regarding massage in the hotel. Can you tell what extra was offered and what you paid in addition. More details on cost and sercvice would be highly appreciated as I will be in this hotel soon.

Many thanks

Emmseven
04-17-07, 00:23
Great report Emmseven. Can you be a little more precise which action you got for which price. How much to you take for the girl to take home?

You also posted a report regarding massage in the hotel. Can you tell what extra was offered and what you paid in addition. More details on cost and sercvice would be highly appreciated as I will be in this hotel soon.

Many thanksThe KTV across the street is close to Shanghai prices. I beleive it's roughly 1000-1500 for LT but I can't really remember. I never really paid for LT from this place but my co-workers did last year. I have a regular that I take out for dinner and shopping once in a while (comes out to be way cheaper this way and a great way to get a tour guide).

As for the massage in the hotel, I overpaid so I really don't want to say. Next time I would just turn down the "extras" and I know the girls will go down in price. If it's too high for your tastes, just tell them "No" and start getting up. They'll ususally keep going down until they get to a price you're willing to spend. If not, then just get dressed and pay the massage fee listed at the front desk.

Oh, by the way do you speak any mandarin? At the KTV, very few girls speak english but if you need some suggestions I can help. One girl you may like that speaks english is "Happy".

Emmseven
04-22-07, 15:22
Everytime I'm at the gym in the hotel I can see this "club" through the window. I figured that it's time I go check it out.

I walk over there and they have a menu listed in Chinese, Japanese, and Korean in the front lobby. The prices were 688, 788, and 1188 if I remember correctly.

Anyway, itís basically the same as the Shanghai saunas that Iíve been to. Get your locker key and change into the robe. Shower and go to the waiting room.

Since the place is new (when I was here late last year this place wasnít open yet) the interior is pretty nice. They take you upstairs to the room, which is also fairly nice. Itís way nicer than any of the saunas Iíve seen in Shanghai but not as nice as some of the ones weíve been to in Macau.

After a few minutes two girls come in and ask me if I want a massage. I basically answered the girl that asked so the other girl left. The other girl was actually the one I would have chosen. She looked like she was about 20 years old, very petite, but cute. The girl that stayed looked like she was late 20ís but she had a RACK.

I just went with it. She asked me if I wanted the 688 or 788. She pointed to the bars on the ceiling for the 788 rate so I chose that. The massage was the usual lick up and down, suck fingers and toes, and rim job. The rim was the most intense Iíve had so far. Her tongue basically went into my hole and she was basically doing my hole! I didnít know how to react to that. Then the BBBJ and the cover went on.

Then she got out the "red ropes" but it wasnít the same. She basically got into a superman style, flying position and wanted me to do her from behind. We did that for a while then she got into another position where she was on the "ropes" like a swing with her legs suspended behind me. The she went into another position. This was kinda fun.

Anyway, we then finished off doggie and mish. I got a beer too (which they charged me 18rmb for) so the total came out to 806. I only had large bills and they donít seem to take CCs so they let me pay just 800 for the whole thing.

I have the pamphlet if any wants the info. Itís pretty easy to find though. Itís right across the small river in the back of the Renaissance hotel.

Emm

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Sz Maxiu
05-10-07, 11:55
Wow, Renaissance didn't used to have this. Last year, I know they were installing a sauna. During my previous stays (about 12 weeks in 2006), you could get massage to your room, and there was usually a HJ offered.

Besides the Peninsula (I went opening night, just happened to be at the Scholar Hotel), there is another I think on XingHai Jie. Bali Hot Springs is still my favorite, though. And I haven't found much if any English ability at any of them.


I just realized that this is only my second post here. I guess I've been mongering here for a while and it just seems like I've posted before.

But anyway, so I'm in the hotel today doing some surfing (same hotel as my last post yesterday) and I see the hotel offers a massage/spa on one of the lower floors. I read in the Shanghai thread that pretty much all the hotel here offer some kind of service but I didn't think this hotel would. So, I thought I'd give it a try. Went for the oil massage and it was going normal but then she asked me to turn over and started asking me what I wanted next.

In short, she tried to rip me off but just being curious I spent more than the usual amount. I just was so surprised that this hotel has this kind of service!

Anyway, I need to try the hot spring club in the back next time.

Curiosity is costing me more than it's worth sometimes.

-Emm-

Hot Lover
06-09-07, 14:03
Hi all,

With great interest I have read the reports and wanted to go out and make my own experiences and post my reports. There are two streets mentioned in the reports I can not find on the map

Feng Yi Jie

Su Yuan Jie

Can somebody help me to describe how to get there? Many thanks

Dkl001
06-18-07, 05:32
I'll be in Suzhou this week and will try out the Sauna that was mentioned here earlier. (sorry - can't remember the name of poster!)

Will post reviews/experiences once I return! :)

Cheers,

DKL

Wobudong
07-03-07, 20:40
i stumbled on this forum by pure chance, when i was doing an online search for the sofitel in suzhou about 2 months ago. i've been to suzhou on biz trips from shanghai (where i live) for the past 3 years. after reading a few posts, i decided to contribute with a little report about 3 hotels i have stayed over the years and recently.

i speak decent putonghua (mandarin), as well as beijing and wenzhou dialects, that helps quite a bit when getting into 'interesting' situations. anyway. i have been staying at the gloria plaza hotel many times over the last 5 years. it's your typical chinese 4 star hotel, personnel is nice and affable, but you can't help not to observe the decadence of it's old and out of date surroundings, oh, and the stench of cigarette smoke. like most chinese hotels they offer in-room massage service. you can dial the number in the (conveniently placed) little placard next to the bed, or head to the second floor at the health center and ask for one. they'll tell you to go to your room and wait for about 10 to 15 minutes. the girls are hit and miss, but never below 6's. the first ones that show up will offer hj and fs. if you want just a massage, send the first girl away and she'll send you a regular masseuse (in my experience usually she always turned out prettier). here's the 'catch', the regular masseuse will still give you a hj, but the massage is actually good to decent and is for 2 full hours. the fs girls will normally perform their deal in formula one style pit-stop. i do not recommend it. i tried it once, it was good, the girl was hot about an 8, but i felt i was on a timer. it's not the girl's fault, their boss will actually call your room and yell at them if they are late; he did it the first time, then the second i yelled at him to shut the f**k up and he did still, it's not the most relaxing experience. if you can settle for just the hj girls, number 6 is tops at that and speaks a little english to boot, for those who can't understand mandarin. all in all, if you happen to be at the gloria plaza, i would only recommend the hj 2 hour massage. now about the price. remember this is a hotel, so you pay a premium. the girls have to actually hand their boss the main fee, the tip you give them is the actual amount they get. when i used to stay there until recently the boss fee was 300rmb, which can't be negotiated. expensive? ! certainly yes, but when you feel the urge, i guess that's a moot point; ) the girl will ask at least 300 at first, but then after a little negotiation the price will drop considerably to more than 50%. if you become a regular, it mostly becomes up to you how much you want to tip. i've had the girl several times for over 3 hours. yes the damn boss called the first few times, but once yelled at him that i would come down and make a scene, i never got bothered again for the rest of the times i stayed there.

the other hotel i stayed frequently is the renaissance. yes, they indeed have in room hanky panky, but i get the feeling that your mileage will vary depending on if you speak mandarin or not. girls are more hit and miss, and on top of that they do not seem to have 'numbers'. i managed to get the phone number of a girl that was a stunner, an easy 9, but i recently found out from an other one that she relocated to shanghai: (

in general though, if you don't speak a little mandarin, i do not entirely recommend the in-room service as it turns out to be too much trouble dealing with the negotiating part. of course if the girl speaks a little english, then you're set. if you don't speak mandarin, the peninsula and the oasis are safer bets as it has been reported in other posts.

now to the sofitel. this is a brand new hotel, opened on jan 07. it is an absolute steal if you manage to get a corporate rate (deluxe room for 850rmb), and it is a very nice 5 star hotel with all the bells and whistles, minus in-room massage. many services are still being implemented, so perhaps in a few months it might change. now here's the word of advice. the area next to the hotel is fine during daytime, there are tons of shops, malls, restaurants etc. and the area is very safe. at night it is a different story. once the stores close down, at around 9 to 10 pm, the 'vultures' come in droves. you basically can't walk anywhere around the area surrounding the hotel without pimps and crooks trying to offer you girls and massages.

listen carefully, no matter how much your little guy is tempting you, do not cave in and follow the handlers. they will lead you inevitably to a second rate ktv in the neighborhood, where they will 99% of the time scam you. these ktv are the seedy kind, right off renmin lu. do yourself a favor, do not follow anyone that promises you a massage. this is a common scam in practice in suzhou. in shanghai it is very rare to be scammed this way, unless you're the gullible waiguo type

what they'll do is the same all the time, they'll lure you into a room, the mamasan negotiates with you for a little while, a pretty girl steps in bringing cheap snacks and drinks, then they'll leave for a minute, only to reappear with a beautiful girl that sits next to you. at that point you're thinking that you're gonna have a sweet adventure, without realizing that she's the bait. then all in a sudden the mamasan will begin asking you to pay the tip for the girl and then an undisclosed amount for the boss. when you start getting uncomfortable, the 'boss' and usually 2 to 3 thugs resembling the ones from 70's hong kong be movies will come into your room (they were outside the room out of sight when you got in), and basically you're toast. at that point they'll show you a bill that will probably range from 800 to well over 1500 rmb, for essentially 5 rmb worth of snacks. usually you have 2 choices, pay and leave, or complain at your own risk. well, if you read this far you probably figured this also happened to me, although the outcome was a little different. it was about 1 month ago when i was at the sofitel. after a shitty day spent at an exhausting biz meeting, i decided i wanted to let some steam out. i figured i could lash some anger at a few crooks that populate the area. i pretended i was the average biz guy from europe that wanted some action and avoided letting out that i knew or understood mandarin (that was the most difficult part, as it is hard to control your body language when you understand they are making fun of you).

i basically played the game all along. now, fast forward to the part where the thugs are in the room, the mamasan has switched her attitude from angelic to a money mongering be***h and is yelling to me in broken english that i need to pay the boss, who is sitting opposite me and one thug is standing next to him and an other is peeking through the door outside of the room. i yell in english i am not paying 1600rmb they are asking. the shove the menus in front of me a few times showing me the price list, which is all bs. i mean, 48rmb for a shitty glass of green tea! the mamasan is holding my arm (which pisses me off), so at that point i decide to drop my cover and begin yelling at them in chinese this time, standing up (i am 6ft3 and in athletic shape). they are visibly surprised and caught off guard. the boss tells me that i should have let them know i was 'local' and all this would have been avoided. the bill now instantly dropped down to 400 rmb (the price of the room), but i did not intend to pay a single fen. i shove the mamasan back on the couch causing a commotion outside the room, with more thugs showing up. i clearly told them that if they didn't let me out i would start destroying the room. that's the moment when i realized i shouldn't played this silly stunt, because on of the thugs outside got into the room with a serrated knife, rambo style. at that point i picked up my phone from my pocket and pretended to call the local party secretary of the cpc (whom i met a few times on business) mentioning his name while i dialed the number. that was sufficient to make them understand i was no regular customer. i threatened to have them all arrested the following morning and have the place shut down if they didn't let me go. this whole bs lasted for well over an hour, in typical chinese fashion. they let me out and i decided to give them 200rmb for the broken tray (i used that as a shield in case it turned ugly). i called the boss outside the main entrance and gave him 10rmb telling him to pretend i handed him 400rmb to save face, little fuker, in hindsight i shouldn't have, oh well.

anyway, my lesson at the end of the night was that i should have opted for the gym instead of putting myself in a dangerous situation.

i hope this will be useful info for anyone thinking about venturing around the gan jiang area and sofitel.

cheers,

wbd

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Hot Lover
07-18-07, 03:22
Can somebody tell me where Lu Feng is and how to get there? Which major roads are in the vicinity?

Katho
07-18-07, 20:34
Hi guys,

Had a red rope action 2 years ago in Shanghai. Is there any simulare location at Suzhou area ? I will stay at New City Garden or Shangri-La, not sure yet. If there is any "over night service" availible, would be great to know !

Many thanks !

Katho

Hyundai
07-30-07, 13:58
Hi there,

Have been in Suzhou end of April and that was my first time to China ever. Stayed in Bamboo Grove hotel. Read the forum before and was aware, that main action can be found on Shi Quan Jie, so went walking there. Not to mention, a lot of bike taxi guys start to hastle you immediately with massagie. Went first in a famous Aussie bar, had 2 beers and then start to walk again. Like always in a foreign country, wanted first to make some observations. As read before, the street itself really is full of bars where mamasans inviting you in for a beer of 10 RBM etc, but could not decide yet, simply too much of the supply for the first hour. Had some more beer in another bar, and then despite the RTFF before, made the most stupid mistake. Took an offer from the guy from the street and follow him to a KTV. I was sat down to the room, offered with the beer and a young girl came in. I accepted to buy her drink and start talking about potential business. I told her I wanted only BJ so she agreed and leave the room, saying she need to refresh herself. In the same minute start asking my self, where the hell did you have your head minutes ago. Another lady came in minute after she leave, and put a tray with nuts, pistacio, sweets on the table. Soon after girl returned, but not alone. Guy put a bill in front of me and start asking for the money. I checked the bill and this "fair" guy charged me over 1300 RBM. WTF? I told hime this is a robery and said I will not pay. I raised my voice, beeing soo god damn angry on my stupidity why I initialy even enter in this place. The guy started to look a bit violent, and so did I, but having in mind some Kung-Fu films and scenes I rather changed the attitude and said him please call the police. I repeated that for couple of times and told him, I do not have so much money with me. He said then how much, I told him I only have 300, which I repeated few times. Together with police mentioning, that finally lead to the point, where I was "released" for 300 RBM. I thru the money on the table, finished my beer and went out from that scam place. Was so angry that I took an invitation from one mamasan on the street, buy myself and a girl beer, and soon we went to the room. She started with some massage, which was good, but was still too angry to really enyoy. She finished with a nice HJ, followed by a long massage of a fella, she proposed some more action, but I refused, she was about 5, 5 on the scale. Here the cost together with the tips was the same as before, but at least I did not have the feeling of beeing fucked and screwed (soo much).

What to say more, making mistakes is human, but anyone walking on that street, be aware of that joint. It is located on the same side as Aussie bar, app. 150 m away. Rather go elsewhere, our money worths more.

Cheers,

H

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Wobudong
08-26-07, 03:19
Hi there,

Had some more beer in another bar, and then despite the RTFF before, made the most stupid mistake. Took an offer from the guy from the street and follow him to a KTV.I can't believe you made the mistake, especially if you read the forum....oh well, I guess you learned the lesson the hard way.

Anyway, I thought about highlighting a brand new Hotel that opened a couple of months in Suzhou. It is right next to the tech park, on the same road with the big Starbucks on the corner. The Hotel is called Landmark Skylight Pearl (interesting choice), and as I said it is spanking new. I've been there twice on business. Chinese management, big rooms and modern decor.

The interesting part is that they have a SPA Annex. They have the SPA 'Menu' in the Hotel lobby, but it is all in Chinese. It is a separate building adjacent to the Hotel building. There are 2 entries to the SPA, the one to the left is a very nice legit Massage center, the one to the right is the Sauna with all the bells and whistles. Prices go from the mid 300's up to mid 700's. I should mention that the place is luxuriously decorated and everything is very clean and new. Staff was very friendly the couple of time I went. also the place is mostly empty, I suspect because it is so new, and also because not many cab drivers know it is there. The first time I went I picked a girl out of a selection of about 5. I would rate her 6.5. The nice thing is that the room, resembles more a Hotel room with a king size bed, and private bathroom. Overall the FS experience was good, but not the best, especially when compared to some places in Shanghai. Still, it is probably the better one in SZ, safe, clean and not a rip off. They also have a website for the hotel with info on the SPA.
h**p://www.landmarkpearl.com

Enjoy.

Hot Lover
08-27-07, 15:49
Good report Wobudong.

Do you a place where you can get massage and FS in the SIP.

JayCar2014
09-10-07, 03:13
Staying at the Landmark Skylight Pearl (+86-512-62876666), second visit worth the effort due to convenient located sauna out the back. Make sure you go to the right hand side of the Spa Building out the back. The other side is a regular health spa.

Set-up is similar to others, just up market, but you have to try the fish pond. You sit in a small Jacuzzi in tepid water and these small fish just start to nibble at your skin. (First time for everything).

First visit was much better girl was 7-8 in looks and service and also bought out this early eighties German porn,(not that I spent any time looking at the television). Little toys and fire & ice lots fake moaning but including the surroundings possibly one of the better experiences in China.

But worthwhile mentioning second visit to same establishment as an incident occurred that I would like some feedback on from the senior members. It was suggested by my choice of play partner that I could get two girls to have twice the fun, previous experience in China with this was very pleasurable and alot of fun. A price of 1200 RMB was quoted for 90 minutes. This seemed reasonable due the plush surrounds, the bathing area downstairs and the fun I had last time.

As experience taught me last time, I let her pick a friend both seemed happy and friendly. I speak two words of Chinese, but this has never been an issue before in either P4P or tourist mode. I treat the girls with respect and dignity and donít force any activity if they show an obvious dislike. I might be slightly larger than average in equipment size but nothing humungous, I always bring my own condom and I do tip. Iím just setting the scene please donít take to task over the pros and cons of tipping.

Anyway back to todayís experience, these two girls took their time getting back to the room and the service from the start was poor. Turned the T.V. on to a different station and throughout the 40 or so minutes were watching it constantly, the massage was brief and robotic & most of the time either one or the other was in the bathroom. CBJ was brief and only one girl obliged then onto her back and dragged me into position. It was quite apparent that she wanted me to get it over with quickly but that full penetration was not on the cards by where she placed her hands to block any thrusting.

She also wouldnít allow me to feel, touch or suck her breasts.

When I pulled out to swap girls I allowed the necessary wiping and cleaning then the same attitude from the second girl re the blocking of full thrusting. As I said early Iím not a wham bam sort of guy and took some time to allow them to adjust to the girth and length but after the second girls restricted touching and feeling bits and pieces as well as restricted movement.

I got the shits.

Keeping in mind the Asian preference for not showing too much negative emotion, I sat up pulled off the condom and went to the bathroom and proceeded to have a shower. They came into the bathroom and were obviously wondering what was going on trying to get me to come back to the bed, showing me two fresh condoms but I ignored them and then started dressing into the pyjamas that were supplied. I them motioned to them to ring the manager and they were motioning for me to sign the invoice that they bring with them and I just looked at her and shook my head. She didnít seem too pleased. When the manager arrived it was just one of the attendants who could speak a little English. After some discussions lasting 10 minutes in the room the attendant and I retired to an area on the same floor with a bit more room and comfort. Here the real manager started talking and gave me two options. 1) I could continue with the same girls and the time would be extended or 2) I could get a discount on my next visit. Neither of these was looking too attractive, thinking of having to deal with the two girls after the trouble.

I kept my cool, didnít raise my voice, just stated my case to the manager, I wasnít willing to pay for the bad service. These discussions went on for Ĺ an hour until I realised the manager was in a spot as well as the two girls wouldnít be happy either and would possibly make trouble with the other girls. In the end I gave ground and asked through the staff member/interpreter if I could be guaranteed better service and was assured that I would. I got the impression he would have a word or something to the girls and he would also check how I went at the end of the session. Returning to the room both girls entered appearing apologetic and completed the task with a mild degree of improvement but I still feel as though I was short changed.

What I would like to ask senior members is have they had an experience like this, would they have handled it in a different way and how?

N3801

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Wadman
09-10-07, 19:17
Nicholas,

I don't have the answers to all your questions, but allow me to chime in with a few observations:

1. The best way to treat working girls is to be firm and authoritative with them. Being polite, sincere and all smiles will often not be reciprocated (as you may assume). If you act like a pussy, and the girl is in a lazy mood, she will take advantage of you as much as she can. So again, let them know you are in control. The trick is to know exactly how far you can push things without going to far; more experience in China will teach you this. If you push things too far this may be asking for trouble too (from their pimp, manager, etc.)

2. Lots of Chinese like to take advantage of you if you cannot speak at least some Mandarin. They figure you won't be able to complain anyway. I had the same problem when I first came to China and couldn't speak 2 words of Mandarin. So learn some Mandarin, or have a buddy handy who does.

3. Confirm with the manager/mama upfront what services are included. If you want to pop twice in a session, BBBJTC, etc confirm this first. Not 100% guaranteed that you will actually get as promised, but it increases your chances substantially, and at least you have a legitimate complain.

4. In most saunas (especially the higher end ones) the girls will get fined for complaints which is why sauna girls provide superior service compared to BBS or KTV girls.

5. Taking 2 girls instead of 1 increases the chances of a shitty experience like the one you had. They figure it's easier to dominate the situation with the 2 of them.

6. Generally speaking in China, let people know (somehow, some way even if you don't speak Mandarin) that you will cause problems if you don't get a fair deal. Chinese people do not like to have a loud, screaming agitated customer in their store (or sauna). Not raising your voice, or losing your cool (at least to some degree) when dealing with the sauna manager was a mistake. In western countries this may be the correct way, but in China it's often a case of he who complains the most, loudest, longest wins.





Staying at the Landmark Skylight Pearl (+86-512-62876666), second visit worth the effort due to convenient located sauna out the back. Make sure you go to the right hand side of the Spa Building out the back. The other side is a regular health spa.

Set-up is similar to others, just up market, but you have to try the fish pond. You sit in a small Jacuzzi in tepid water and these small fish just start to nibble at your skin. (First time for everything).

First visit was much better girl was 7-8 in looks and service and also bought out this early eighties German porn,(not that I spent any time looking at the television). Little toys and fire & ice lots fake moaning but including the surroundings possibly one of the better experiences in China.

But worthwhile mentioning second visit to same establishment as an incident occurred that I would like some feedback on from the senior members. It was suggested by my choice of play partner that I could get two girls to have twice the fun, previous experience in China with this was very pleasurable and alot of fun. A price of 1200 RMB was quoted for 90 minutes. This seemed reasonable due the plush surrounds, the bathing area downstairs and the fun I had last time.

As experience taught me last time, I let her pick a friend both seemed happy and friendly. I speak two words of Chinese, but this has never been an issue before in either P4P or tourist mode. I treat the girls with respect and dignity and donít force any activity if they show an obvious dislike. I might be slightly larger than average in equipment size but nothing humungous, I always bring my own condom and I do tip. Iím just setting the scene please donít take to task over the pros and cons of tipping.

Anyway back to todayís experience, these two girls took their time getting back to the room and the service from the start was poor. Turned the T.V. on to a different station and throughout the 40 or so minutes were watching it constantly, the massage was brief and robotic & most of the time either one or the other was in the bathroom. CBJ was brief and only one girl obliged then onto her back and dragged me into position. It was quite apparent that she wanted me to get it over with quickly but that full penetration was not on the cards by where she placed her hands to block any thrusting.

She also wouldnít allow me to feel, touch or suck her breasts.

When I pulled out to swap girls I allowed the necessary wiping and cleaning then the same attitude from the second girl re the blocking of full thrusting. As I said early Iím not a wham bam sort of guy and took some time to allow them to adjust to the girth and length but after the second girls restricted touching and feeling bits and pieces as well as restricted movement.

I got the shits.

Keeping in mind the Asian preference for not showing too much negative emotion, I sat up pulled off the condom and went to the bathroom and proceeded to have a shower. They came into the bathroom and were obviously wondering what was going on trying to get me to come back to the bed, showing me two fresh condoms but I ignored them and then started dressing into the pyjamas that were supplied. I them motioned to them to ring the manager and they were motioning for me to sign the invoice that they bring with them and I just looked at her and shook my head. She didnít seem too pleased. When the manager arrived it was just one of the attendants who could speak a little English. After some discussions lasting 10 minutes in the room the attendant and I retired to an area on the same floor with a bit more room and comfort. Here the real manager started talking and gave me two options. 1) I could continue with the same girls and the time would be extended or 2) I could get a discount on my next visit. Neither of these was looking too attractive, thinking of having to deal with the two girls after the trouble.

I kept my cool, didnít raise my voice, just stated my case to the manager, I wasnít willing to pay for the bad service. These discussions went on for Ĺ an hour until I realised the manager was in a spot as well as the two girls wouldnít be happy either and would possibly make trouble with the other girls. In the end I gave ground and asked through the staff member/interpreter if I could be guaranteed better service and was assured that I would. I got the impression he would have a word or something to the girls and he would also check how I went at the end of the session. Returning to the room both girls entered appearing apologetic and completed the task with a mild degree of improvement but I still feel as though I was short changed.

What I would like to ask senior members is have they had an experience like this, would they have handled it in a different way and how?

N3801

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OldAsiaHand
09-11-07, 08:51
What I would like to ask senior members is have they had an experience like this, would they have handled it in a different way and how?


N3801,

Wadman has given you some very good advise, but if you are not a regular customer, they usually do not care if you complain. China is so big that the attitude is often that if you do not come back, another customer will. However, it is best to approach these places with confidence pretending that you visit these places all the time. I know it is difficult if you do not speak Chinese.

The earlier you complain the better. Problem is that after a certain amount of time the house has to pay the girls regardless of the service. This is why they offered to extend the time with the same girls rather than change them for you.

I have had many similar sauna experiences as you have described. Like anything else, it is hit or miss. Saunas do tend to discriminate against laowais since they reckon you do not know what to expect and like Wadman says, they think you cannot or will not complain.

Go in with confidence like you know what to expect and you will probably get better results.

Just my POV.

OAH

P.S. Refusing to pay will never work unless it is very early in the session. If you insist on not paying, it will get nasty more often than not.

JayCar2014
09-11-07, 11:41
Thanks Wadman and OAH, while I was disappointed with the lack of enthusiasm, I realise that this common and sometimes to be expected. So jumping up and down and making a fuss is the way to go? I thought the best way to handle any type of dispute in this country was to stay cool, calm & collected.

The male employees of this place were all apologetic and seemed to understand and at the end of the session even the girls seemed a bit contrite. Still had fun even though all this happened and the spa area down stairs is a treat!

N3801

Wadman
09-11-07, 18:34
Thanks Wadman and OAH, while I was disappointed with the lack of enthusiasm, I realise that this common and sometimes to be expected.


Sauna girls' services are often described as "mechanical" by members here. That's because the typical sauna girl in a busy place does 3-4 customers a day, 1.5 - 2 hours per customer. They usually get about 2 days off per month, but sometimes don't take them, preferring to work instead. No wonder then the enthusiasm is lacking...




So jumping up and down and making a fuss is the way to go?


Essentially...Yes. Complain, let her know you expect more. Use hand signals to communicate what want. Escalate to the manager/mama if necessary. If you don't speak Mandarin, raise your voice: hearing you scream at them and seeing your face turn purple will get the message across.

But again, don't over-do it. Don't do anything stupid like slapping or kicking the girl.




I thought the best way to handle any type of dispute in this country was to stay cool, calm & collected.


No. This is only the best way if you are dealing with some high-up government official, (suspected) triad punk, or generally speaking someone who wields powers much bigger than your own. In that case, back off. Or better yet, don't get involved in the first place.

Another situation to stay "calm, cool and collected" is when negotating a price. Don't make it personal. If the vendor quotes you a ridiculous price, he/she has the right to do so. Nobody said he/she has to sell to you at a "fair" price.

But otherwise complain loud, complain hard and complain often. Look at the Hongkies, they *WILL* complain if a service or product is not up to par. I love patronizing the same stores as Hongkies; they do all the hard to ensure quality.




The male employees of this place were all apologetic and seemed to understand and at the end of the session even the girls seemed a bit contrite. Still had fun even though all this happened and the spa area down stairs is a treat!
N3801

The male employees were apologetic and understanding because that was their easiest way out. Same with the girls being contrite. You were placated (to a small degree) and left without causing any more problems = problem solved (from their POV).

I have heard plenty of "bu hao yisi's" (= sorry) myself. Offered by employees with no power to make any decisions these are not sincere. What is it with all these "bu hao yisi's" anyway... That, and 1 RMB, will get you a kebab stick from a roadside BBQ in this country.

Dars Veider
10-20-07, 02:30
A short report about the scene in Suzhou.

I was there for a short bizz trip and went every night to Shiquan Street. To make it eaiser to find it and to explain it to the taxi drivers I attached a bizz card of one of the bars in this street.

There are around 6-8 bars where girls are alsready standing outside the bar in order to catch customers and to drag them into the bar for "one beer". Inside, the girls come quickly to you, touch, rub and "massage" you, ask quickly for a drink, and finally ask you to go "upstairs".

Some girls speak some decent English, but most of them just a few "necessary" words. There are some cuties among them.

Upstairs are small, not comfortable and dirty looking rooms (no bathroom. At least those I saw! ), where you can get physical with the girl.

Prices in the bar:
Tsingtao Beer 10 RMB
Girl drink ... depends on the choice, but it is not overpriced for a non Chinese customer

Prices for upstairs:
100 RMB for Mamasan
200-300 RMB for a massage and HJ
350-500 RMB for massage and sex (I do not know what is included, since I didn't try it)

If you want to take the girl to your hotel:
100 RMB for Mamasan
500 RMB for an hour
500-800 RMB all night (depends how late it is already)

I was told there is another street, FuMeng Rd, which is just down Shiquan St. ... but this is supposed to serve Chinese men and the girls do not speak English at all ... but this is just what I was told.

Didn't try any sauna or other places.

Cheers

Bobeve
10-24-07, 01:41
This is exelent information. I will be in Souzhu in December. I will test this place out. Thank you.

Hot Lover
11-27-07, 05:36
Does somebody know some good massage parlours in the SIP, which offer outcall service with extra service on demand?

ChinaTimes
12-02-07, 17:21
I have been using this for a while and I haven't contributed much. But, I will contribute with one condition. I don't want anyone else to screw up this place because its pristine (no foreigners)

There is a place called "moa doa" in Chinese that is a little outside of the city toward one of the industrial parks. This place makes all the other places in Suzhou look like nothing. There are at least 20 KTV's and at least 50 BBS shops all together.

Also, the girls in the BBS's are young and pretty and are very accommodating (FS). Also, Do NOT pay more than 150 RMB. This is the standard rate for full service. In fact, don't even ask the price. Just pick a girl, go do your FS, and then hand the mommie 150 RMB and walk out. There won't be any complaints or issues.

The rooms kind of suck. They are small, and poorly lite (so I'm not sure how clean they are). But, the girls are great.

So, don't mess this up, because its perfect for me. Again, tell everyone that the price is 150 RMB and don't negotiate. Again, do NOT pay more than 150 RMB for the BBS girls for full service. However, if you want a BJ, this will depend on the girl and you should ask the mommie beforehand if the girl will do it.

Also, don't hang around. Just go do your business, and get out. That's what they expect. So, don't mess it up for all the other foreigners.

If you want to go there, these are the options:

1. Tell any taxi driver to take you to "moa doa" (if he doesn't know it, ask another driver).

2. Call this number: 158-6230-3307 (its the mommie of the BBS I went to)

3. Call one of these numbers: 6636-9089 or 139-1405-7298 (these are the numbers to a KTV in the middle of the main street)

4. Call this number: 159-6220-6711 (this is the driver I used, named Mr. Wang)

5. Ask OAH to get hold of me (I live in Guangzhou with him)

I usually don't go on here often, so if you contact me here, I probably won't respond.

By the way, this driver was good. He drives a new Nissan Tiida and he knows the area. The only problem is he speaks no English at all. Also, non of the mommies or the girls in Moa Doa speak English. I speak some Chinese so I can get by. If you contact this driver, tell him you got his number from the white American foreigner from Guangzhou. But, you need to either give the phone to someone that speaks Chinese or you need to speak Chinese (again, he speaks no English).

If you stay in the Shangri La Hotel, its about 10 to 15 minutes to this place. If you stay in the Sheraton or the Bamboo Grove, its about 20 to 30 minutes, depending on traffic.

I don't like KTV's, so I didn't go in to ask how they work or the prices. I just grabbed a business card from one of them. I would assume they have a similar price for the girls there. But, please don't screw those places up for everyone else either.

The places open about 2 pm and shut down at 4 am every day. Good luck and don't screw it up for the rest of us.

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Hot Lover
12-09-07, 09:36
ChinaTimes,

Excellent reprot. Can somebody tell which main roads are in this area? Drivers could not find it.

Venne73
12-10-07, 13:18
Just wondering too, that where is that place. I've never hear it before? I know some 150RMB places, but this doesn't sound like same place.

Heehaw
01-29-08, 04:02
I have been using this for a while and I haven't contributed much. But, I will contribute with one condition. I don't want anyone else to screw up this place because its pristine (no foreigners)

There is a place called "moa doa" in Chinese that is a little outside of the city toward one of the industrial parks. This place makes all the other places in Suzhou look like nothing. There are at least 20 KTV's and at least 50 BBS shops all together.

Also, the girls in the BBS's are young and pretty and are very accommodating (FS). Also, Do NOT pay more than 150 RMB. This is the standard rate for full service. In fact, don't even ask the price. Just pick a girl, go do your FS, and then hand the mommie 150 RMB and walk out. There won't be any complaints or issues.

The rooms kind of suck. They are small, and poorly lite (so I'm not sure how clean they are). But, the girls are great.

So, don't mess this up, because its perfect for me. Again, tell everyone that the price is 150 RMB and don't negotiate. Again, do NOT pay more than 150 RMB for the BBS girls for full service. However, if you want a BJ, this will depend on the girl and you should ask the mommie beforehand if the girl will do it.

Also, don't hang around. Just go do your business, and get out. That's what they expect. So, don't mess it up for all the other foreigners.

If you want to go there, these are the options:

1. Tell any taxi driver to take you to "moa doa" (if he doesn't know it, ask another driver).

2. Call this number: 158-6230-3307 (its the mommie of the BBS I went to)

3. Call one of these numbers: 6636-9089 or 139-1405-7298 (these are the numbers to a KTV in the middle of the main street)

4. Call this number: 159-6220-6711 (this is the driver I used, named Mr. Wang)

5. Ask OAH to get hold of me (I live in Guangzhou with him)

I usually don't go on here often, so if you contact me here, I probably won't respond.

By the way, this driver was good. He drives a new Nissan Tiida and he knows the area. The only problem is he speaks no English at all. Also, non of the mommies or the girls in Moa Doa speak English. I speak some Chinese so I can get by. If you contact this driver, tell him you got his number from the white American foreigner from Guangzhou. But, you need to either give the phone to someone that speaks Chinese or you need to speak Chinese (again, he speaks no English).

If you stay in the Shangri La Hotel, its about 10 to 15 minutes to this place. If you stay in the Sheraton or the Bamboo Grove, its about 20 to 30 minutes, depending on traffic.

I don't like KTV's, so I didn't go in to ask how they work or the prices. I just grabbed a business card from one of them. I would assume they have a similar price for the girls there. But, please don't screw those places up for everyone else either.

The places open about 2 pm and shut down at 4 am every day. Good luck and don't screw it up for the rest of us.Happened to go to this road last week. Had business at factory near Taihu lake. Only 10 minute drive away. Yes, girls are gorgeous. Went w/ friends to a KTV, lovely strip show performed for 600RMB. Included 9 tricks including ping pong ball, cigarettes, beer bottles, etc..-- gorgeous girl, however. Name Junie.

Anyway, yes, this road has dozens of bbs and KTV operations. Girls overflowing the glass front stores onto the streets trying to reach anyone. Foreigners stick out and get swarmed. Didn't try eat-in, but take-out was on the menu as I was ony minutes away at Tianping hotel. Can't vouch for 150RMB, as this girl asked for 2x to meet me at a clean hotel. Well worth the difference. This place is like a brothel w/ a full service staff. There were girls wandering the halls at 2-3 am just in case you had thrown your girl out and were looking for another.

Only trouble.- no english, I mean at all by any of these girls. Of course, the universal hand signals work. As usual.

Hot Lover
01-30-08, 15:37
Sounds really interesting. Please be more precise where this street is so other bros can find it. Which major streets or landmarks are in the vicinity.


Happened to go to this road last week. Had business at factory near Taihu lake. Only 10 minute drive away. Yes, girls are gorgeous. Went w/ friends to a KTV, lovely strip show performed for 600RMB. Included 9 tricks including ping pong ball, cigarettes, beer bottles, etc..-- gorgeous girl, however. Name Junie.

Anyway, yes, this road has dozens of bbs and KTV operations. Girls overflowing the glass front stores onto the streets trying to reach anyone. Foreigners stick out and get swarmed. Didn't try eat-in, but take-out was on the menu as I was ony minutes away at Tianping hotel. Can't vouch for 150RMB, as this girl asked for 2x to meet me at a clean hotel. Well worth the difference. This place is like a brothel w/ a full service staff. There were girls wandering the halls at 2-3 am just in case you had thrown your girl out and were looking for another.

Only trouble.- no english, I mean at all by any of these girls. Of course, the universal hand signals work. As usual.

Santa
01-30-08, 21:04
Didn't try eat-in, but take-out was on the menu as I was only minutes away at Tianping hotel. Can't vouch for 150RMB, as this girl asked for 2x to meet me at a clean hotel. Well worth the difference.

In most towns, where bbs "eat-in" is 150rmb, quick "take-out" to a nearby hotel is the same price, or only an extra 50rmb.

Either way, I think it is always better to confirm the price and service first, otherwise they might give you bad service and hit you with a higher price.

If the price or service isn't right, avoid temptation. There might be a better one in the next shop.

Just my opinion, and hope that helps.

AquaSponge1
03-19-08, 13:19
Been busy with work down in Shenzhen and it has been more than a year since I visited Suzhou again. Not sure whether this place has been reported before but here goes:

Name of Location = Top Show Club KTV
Address = Ren Min Lu (opposite the cultural park - can't miss it with Top Show neon sign)
Delights = Girls get down to their shoes (that's right boys! nude) only in the room for the duration of a few disco songs
Cost = 300RMB tip for each girl; Mamasan expects a tip too (300RMB); KJ tip was 200RMB

Was there last night with a few pals whom I have not met since I left Suzhou. Got the only room there with an attached bathroom. Note that you need to arrive early here (7:30pm is fine) as I was told those girls with nice bods get picked mostly after 9pm. The few lineups I saw last night had some 7's but mostly 6's and a few fat porkers. The girls removed their bra once selected and the roaming begins.

Picked a nice Hubei chick with great assets but found out she was having a period after she declined to remove her panties during the first nude dance routine. We had like 3 of these routines during our 5 hours there last night. I think the more bottles you drink, the more routines you get. However, I was told the nude dance routine is a standard procedure there.

Overall, a fun place to hangout. More or less like your usual KTV but at least for 300RMB, I got to fondle 6 pairs of breasts and touch every girls bodies all over. We have like 12 bottles of those wicked Chinese white wine last night and the damage came up to around 1400RMB excluding the tips.

Will be back to this place soon! Enjoy!

Aqua

AquaSponge1
03-19-08, 13:27
I just realized that my earlier post here was the first one in 2 months...I know Suzhou has a reputation for being squeaky clean (blame it on the Singaporean influence here)...but no reports in 2 months...either no one is getting laid here in this town or everyone is busy getting laid and too busy reporting it...LOL

Maddog40
03-20-08, 02:18
I plan a trip tomorrow to Shzhou to look around and visit some of the sites listed. Just a day trip but will report what I find out. Also planning to do so site seeing.

Any ideas?

Fellow Pirate
03-21-08, 05:32
I'll be in town on Sat. also, probably hamg out on Shi Quan st.

Let me know if anything's up!

Fellow Pirate
03-21-08, 05:57
I'll be in town on Sat. also, probably hanging out on ShiQuan Ave.

Let me know if anything interesting is up.

Maddog40
03-21-08, 08:52
I didn't make it to Suzhou on Friday, now looking to go on Saturday. Still looking for maybe BBS and things to do if there are suggestions.

Buddah
04-06-08, 18:04
I didn't make it to Suzhou on Friday, now looking to go on Saturday. Still looking for maybe BBS and things to do if there are suggestions.Still didn't make it to Suzhou?

Would be nice to get an update.

Maddog40
04-07-08, 15:06
Still have not made it as many suggested I do not travel during holiday this past weekend. Now only have a few days until I leave so don't know if I will make it this trip. I will be looking for others to report so keep them coming.

Wobudong
04-09-08, 00:10
Haven't posted in a while, but this one caught my eye. Ah, the best well kept SZ secret is out of the bag If you speak a little Chinese you're definitely in for a treat, if you don't you HAVE to go with some Chinese business partner. Been there many times with one of my SZ buddies who is friends with a few mamasans. It makes a whole world of difference.

Even had a few 'private' parties with 4 to 6 girls going crazy on us.

As ChinaTimes sez. PLEASE DON'T screw it up.


I have been using this for a while and I haven't contributed much. But, I will contribute with one condition. I don't want anyone else to screw up this place because its pristine (no foreigners)

There is a place called "moa doa" in Chinese that is a little outside of the city toward one of the industrial parks. This place makes all the other places in Suzhou look like nothing. There are at least 20 KTV's and at least 50 BBS shops all together.

Also, the girls in the BBS's are young and pretty and are very accommodating (FS). Also, Do NOT pay more than 150 RMB. This is the standard rate for full service. In fact, don't even ask the price. Just pick a girl, go do your FS, and then hand the mommie 150 RMB and walk out. There won't be any complaints or issues.

The rooms kind of suck. They are small, and poorly lite (so I'm not sure how clean they are). But, the girls are great.

So, don't mess this up, because its perfect for me. Again, tell everyone that the price is 150 RMB and don't negotiate. Again, do NOT pay more than 150 RMB for the BBS girls for full service. However, if you want a BJ, this will depend on the girl and you should ask the mommie beforehand if the girl will do it.

Also, don't hang around. Just go do your business, and get out. That's what they expect. So, don't mess it up for all the other foreigners.

If you want to go there, these are the options:

1. Tell any taxi driver to take you to "moa doa" (if he doesn't know it, ask another driver).

2. Call this number: 158-6230-3307 (its the mommie of the BBS I went to)

3. Call one of these numbers: 6636-9089 or 139-1405-7298 (these are the numbers to a KTV in the middle of the main street)

4. Call this number: 159-6220-6711 (this is the driver I used, named Mr. Wang)

5. Ask OAH to get hold of me (I live in Guangzhou with him)

I usually don't go on here often, so if you contact me here, I probably won't respond.

By the way, this driver was good. He drives a new Nissan Tiida and he knows the area. The only problem is he speaks no English at all. Also, non of the mommies or the girls in Moa Doa speak English. I speak some Chinese so I can get by. If you contact this driver, tell him you got his number from the white American foreigner from Guangzhou. But, you need to either give the phone to someone that speaks Chinese or you need to speak Chinese (again, he speaks no English).

If you stay in the Shangri La Hotel, its about 10 to 15 minutes to this place. If you stay in the Sheraton or the Bamboo Grove, its about 20 to 30 minutes, depending on traffic.

I don't like KTV's, so I didn't go in to ask how they work or the prices. I just grabbed a business card from one of them. I would assume they have a similar price for the girls there. But, please don't screw those places up for everyone else either.

The places open about 2 pm and shut down at 4 am every day. Good luck and don't screw it up for the rest of us.

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Buddah
04-10-08, 17:41
Anyone knows how the rules at Shangri-La hotel are?

Is it allowed to take someone back to your room and up to what time?

Thx for any info

Hot Lover
04-11-08, 15:02
Haven't posted in a while, but this one caught my eye. Ah, the best well kept SZ secret is out of the bag If you speak a little Chinese you're definitely in for a treat, if you don't you HAVE to go with some Chinese business partner. Been there many times with one of my SZ buddies who is friends with a few mamasans. It makes a whole world of difference.

Even had a few 'private' parties with 4 to 6 girls going crazy on us.Stay in Suzhou would like to visit this place.

Can you tell were this place is?

Buddah
04-24-08, 15:35
I stay at Shangri La, but driver told me, it takes about 30 min.

I didn't try so far so I can't confirm.

Anyone else tried yet?


I have been using this for a while and I haven't contributed much. But, I will contribute with one condition. I don't want anyone else to screw up this place because its pristine (no foreigners)

There is a place called "moa doa" in Chinese that is a little outside of the city toward one of the industrial parks. .....

If you stay in the Shangri La Hotel, its about 10 to 15 minutes to this place. If you stay in the Sheraton or the Bamboo Grove, its about 20 to 30 minutes, depending on traffic.

Saski42
05-12-08, 12:10
Shiquan jie has been discussed many time here. I like the bars for the short time investment. In and out of the bar in 15 minutes after a nice BBBJ.

I live in Suzhou already for some time, but I do not seem to get a lot of action in the SIP. I have had some encounters on the street, but always when I did not have the time available to enjoy it to the max. Just girls approaching me. So, I need a place to go when I want to have fun. Massage with extra's is already ok. If anyone has a tip, i write a report the next day.

First post here, but experienced in Suzhou ;-) There are some other interesting places I will write about. But please help me with some SIP action address.

Buddah
05-18-08, 18:03
I stay at Shangri La, but driver told me, it takes about 30 min.

I didn't try so far so I can't confirm.

Anyone else tried yet?It wasn't that far, but worth it.

But instead of 20 KTV and 50 BBS I would say about 50 KTV and 20 BBS, or is there more on the other half of the street?

(other side from main road)

All in all a nice experience.

Tomtrffc
05-21-08, 16:17
Recently stayed at the Sheraton Towers in Suzhou. On my last night there I desided to get in room massage. They advertise it right in the room, and they are open until 3am which is a tip right there that there is more to offer than just massage. If you are looking for a bargain, you will NOT find it at a hotel for sure. That said, if you have the cash you might find it quite a wise investment.

I called down about midnight for the Turkish oil massage (580 RMB for 80min). 5min later a beautiful, petite, young women shows up at my door (maybe 19-22yr old). She is maybe 5' 1" and VERY pretty face. Can't tell much about the body as she has her hotel uniform on. I take off my robe, and she tells me underwear too, and we start with standard oil massage on the back. After about 20min, turn over and start on chest, stomach, arms. She tells me she can give me much better massage, for 1500RMB. After some brief (I literally could not wait) we agree on 1300RMB, for her getting totally naked, BJ etc. For one pop.

Of course this is way to much to pay and you can find same service much cheaper, but when she took off her clothes. All I can say is WOW. She had the most perfect tits I think that I have ever seen. She climbed on top of me and started rubbing those tits all over me and letting me suck on them. I thought I would explode right then. After a while she moved to CBJ, and let me finger her and plays with her tits. Finished with a two fisted HJ, some fake moaning and it was all over for me.

After we showered and I got an even better look at her body and rack. Totally amazing if you like young, petite, Chinese women. But I have to say for me, the tits (very full B cup, maybe C) and pretty face were worth the price of admission.

I was not looking for FS but it was probably available, and I didn't really negotiate too hard, so getting a better price is likely possible.

All in all it was 1300RMB for the service, plus the 580RMB for the massage. So I was out 1900RMB for 90min which is certainly a lot. But as I said, I do not regret it ONE bit. Sure you can get FS for 150RMB in Suzhou, and if that is your budget go for it. This girl was a stunner, and for me personally it was well worth the investment, and I would do it again in a heartbeat.

Face 9
Body 9
Tits 10+
Attitude 7
Price 3

I can't remember her Chinese name but her number was 16. If anyone else stays at Sheraton Suzhou and calls for her I would be interested in your experience so please post.

Member #4341
05-24-08, 14:35
Hey to all mongers,

Stayed 3 nights at Shangri-la hotel hotel in Suzhou. A lot of pro and amatur action close to the hotel.

I tryed several of them and need to say. EVERTHYNG IS OK.

Just near 50-100m from hotel Shangri-La is located a street with name "DOWNTOWN STREET" with near 10-15 health center and near 10-15 KTV clubs or dancing clubs. There are also some BBS. I tryed 3 of those. Every day another one and selection of girls is really nice.

Prices are difernet. From 250-600 RMB, but service was allways fine. For example. I used one time health club located as 1st club on left side. If you walk at night. You can see MASSAGE/SAUNA CLUB. First on menu you have some classical massage. Just take any of it. After your selection of massage u'll be provided in 2nd floor. Where near about 15 rooms provide some special massage. After you come in the room. One girl come inside and if you don't like her just send her away and another one come. NO LINE UP SERVICE! I choosed one very beautiful Chinese from Chegdou. 20y old, but she didn't tell me her name. Aniway she provided for first a nice shower, than great body massage, and than FS. BBJ and I asked also for CIM. And she sayd OK. So tottal for maybe 90m action in several positions and CIM was the 550 RMB. The expencive in that 3 days, but aniway wroth of service.

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Bearsk
05-25-08, 07:15
Did you get Starwood Preferred Guest points on the whole 1900 RMB?
I guess not. This an expensive HJ and TF in China - I have had 24 hour LT for 300 RMB relatively common. I appreciate the details though, she sounds exquisite, must have been Miss China, at least in the mimi department.


Recently stayed at the Sheraton Towers in Suzhou.

I called down about midnight for the Turkish oil massage (580 RMB for 80min). 5min later a beautiful, petite, young women shows up at my door (maybe 19-22yr old). She is maybe 5' 1" and VERY pretty face. Can't tell much about the body as she has her hotel uniform on. I take off my robe, and she tells me underwear too, and we start with standard oil massage on the back. After about 20min, turn over and start on chest, stomach, arms. She tells me she can give me much better massage, for 1500RMB. After some brief (I literally could not wait) we agree on 1300RMB, for her getting totally naked, BJ etc. For one pop.

Of course this is way to much to pay and you can find same service much cheaper, but when she took off her clothes. All I can say is WOW. She had the most perfect tits I think that I have ever seen. She climbed on top of me and started rubbing those tits all over me and letting me suck on them. I thought I would explode right then. After a while she moved to CBJ, and let me finger her and plays with her tits. Finished with a two fisted HJ, some fake moaning and it was all over for me.

After we showered and I got an even better look at her body and rack. Totally amazing if you like young, petite, Chinese women. But I have to say for me, the tits (very full B cup, maybe C) and pretty face were worth the price of admission.

I was not looking for FS but it was probably available, and I didn't really negotiate too hard, so getting a better price is likely possible.

All in all it was 1300RMB for the service, plus the 580RMB for the massage. So I was out 1900RMB for 90min which is certainly a lot. But as I said, I do not regret it ONE bit. Sure you can get FS for 150RMB in Suzhou, and if that is your budget go for it. This girl was a stunner, and for me personally it was well worth the investment, and I would do it again in a heartbeat.

Face 9
Body 9
Tits 10+
Attitude 7
Price 3

I can't remember her Chinese name but her number was 16. If anyone else stays at Sheraton Suzhou and calls for her I would be interested in your experience so please post.

Mike Mike
05-29-08, 14:26
Hi,

How and where I can find chiristian girl in Suzhou? Any one can help me?

I like try chiristian girl.

Thanks,

Mike

Hot Lover
06-07-08, 13:10
It wasn't that far, but worth it.

But instead of 20 KTV and 50 BBS I would say about 50 KTV and 20 BBS, or is there more on the other half of the street?

(other side from main road)

All in all a nice experience.Hi Buddah,

Good for you that you have found it. Can you be more precise where the location is so other bro can find it too?

Many thanks

WalkingChina
06-08-08, 02:52
I get so damn frustrated when I hear anybody paying more than RMB 300 for FS. You guys are killing me. I don't care how old or ugly you are, the going rate during a slow "time" not just slow season such as 5am and nobody is around, is RMB 150. During high "time" or season, the going rate is RMB 200 (April 2008). Hotels are ripoffs. But I guess some of you guys have jobs paying USD $100k+. Always bargain down to RMB 300 or less, they will budge, don't let them beat you at the game.

WalkingChina
06-08-08, 02:53
I get so damn frustrated when I hear anybody paying more than RMB 300 for FS. You guys are killing me. I don't care how old or ugly you are, the going rate during a slow "time" not just slow season such as 5am and nobody is around, is RMB 150. During high "time" or season, the going rate is RMB 200 (April 2008). Hotels are ripoffs. But I guess some of you guys have jobs paying USD $100k+. Always bargain down to RMB 300 or less, they will budge, don't let them beat you at the game.

Buddah
07-30-08, 16:46
Happened to go to this road last week. Had business at factory near Taihu lake. Only 10 minute drive away. Yes, girls are gorgeous. Went w/ friends to a KTV, lovely strip show performed for 600RMB. Included 9 tricks including ping pong ball, cigarettes, beer bottles, etc..-- gorgeous girl, however. Name Junie.

Anyway, yes, this road has dozens of bbs and KTV operations. Girls overflowing the glass front stores onto the streets trying to reach anyone. Foreigners stick out and get swarmed. Didn't try eat-in, but take-out was on the menu as I was ony minutes away at Tianping hotel. Can't vouch for 150RMB, as this girl asked for 2x to meet me at a clean hotel. Well worth the difference. This place is like a brothel w/ a full service staff. There were girls wandering the halls at 2-3 am just in case you had thrown your girl out and were looking for another.

Only trouble.- no english, I mean at all by any of these girls. Of course, the universal hand signals work. As usual.Hi Nutnsuch,

Could you let us know how much you paid mamasan?

What you gave the girl can stay secretly.

Just want to avoid overpayment and spoiling this place.

Thanks

Bold Focker
08-07-08, 19:46
After 1 month and about 10 different hotel in china, I am getting a little confused, and I cant remember if the MP in this hotel is on the 3rd or 4th floor.

The usual routine of ask prices and giving hand signal confirming that I wanted full sex. I was told it was 500yn.

I agreed to this, and was shown a room. A small room with no on suite. He then came back with only one girl, who was not to my liking. I asked in “sign language” I wanted more girls, but he had no more. I called it a day, and said I would come back later.

I went back about 3-4 hour later, they showed me to room, this time I asked for shower!
He took me to another room with shower no problem (I always like to wash them first)

Again only one girl but this time she was OK!

I also confirm with the girl the price, she says 400yn and I say everything. She said yes you pay no more!

No problem with the session! No fire and ice, red rope or rimming. Not that that worried me.

After, at the counter I paid them 400yn, they said no 500yn. I told them the girl told me 400yn and I headed for the lift. They did not pursue it any further.

One price for Asians and one for westerners again!

http://www.sz-newcenturyhotel.cn/cn/hotel_info.htm

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Hot Lover
08-09-08, 18:22
Hi Nutnsuch,

Could you let us know how much you paid mamasan?

What you gave the girl can stay secretly.

Just want to avoid overpayment and spoiling this place.

ThanksCan you tell us the name of the Street please?

Thanks

Raymonds
08-11-08, 21:08
After 1 month and about 10 different hotel in china, I am getting a little confused, and I cant remember if the MP in this hotel is on the 3rd or 4th floor.

The usual routine of ask prices and giving hand signal confirming that I wanted full sex. I was told it was 500yn.

I agreed to this, and was shown a room. A small room with no on suite. He then came back with only one girl, who was not to my liking. I asked in ďsign languageĒ I wanted more girls, but he had no more. I called it a day, and said I would come back later.

I went back about 3-4 hour later, they showed me to room, this time I asked for shower!

He took me to another room with shower no problem (I always like to wash them first)

Again only one girl but this time she was OK!

I also confirm with the girl the price, she says 400yn and I say everything. She said yes you pay no more!

No problem with the session! No fire and ice, red rope or rimming. Not that that worried me.

After, at the counter I paid them 400yn, they said no 500yn. I told them the girl told me 400yn and I headed for the lift. They did not pursue it any further.

One price for Asians and one for westerners again!

http://www.sz-newcenturyhotel.cn/cn/hotel_info.htm

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.Does anyone know how far apart the Sheraton Hotel & Towers - Suzhou is to the New Century Hotel mentioned above? I will arriving from Chicago tomorrow afternoon and was looking for a full service spa/sauna/massage. Are there any within walking distance of the Sheraton? Thanks Bold Focker for the report and I will comment on my experience upon my return to the states.

Buddah
08-12-08, 18:43
Can you tell us the name of the Street please?

ThanksI did not look at the street sign, I will let you know after my next visit in September.

(if nowone before posts it)

Katho
08-15-08, 22:29
Hi walkingchina

If you know any places with rmb 300 for FS please let us know urgently!

I was at Suzhou 3 times and got it for 500 RMB and sometimes more. Service at the hotel was much more expensive.

Would be really great any alternative places!


I get so damn frustrated when I hear anybody paying more than RMB 300 for FS. You guys are killing me. I don't care how old or ugly you are, the going rate during a slow "time" not just slow season such as 5am and nobody is around, is RMB 150. During high "time" or season, the going rate is RMB 200 (April 2008). Hotels are ripoffs. But I guess some of you guys have jobs paying USD $100k+. Always bargain down to RMB 300 or less, they will budge, don't let them beat you at the game.

Spa Hunter
08-19-08, 17:29
Hi walkingchina

If you know any places with rmb 300 for FS please let us know urgently!

I was at Suzhou 3 times and got it for 500 RMB and sometimes more. Service at the hotel was much more expensive.

Would be really great any alternative places!If you can get RMB400 there you would feel very happy for that.

Where can we find a RMB300 service?

Pushkin13
10-24-08, 09:39
The SIP (Suzhou Industrial Park) is the high tech (mostly) area to the east of the Old City.

The road link between Suzhou and the SIP from the southern end of the city is along Yang Zhi Tang Lu.

There is street action along this Lu (Road) on the southern side (direction of traffic away from the City) a little more than midway between Mo Ye Lu (which runs north-south parallel with the cityís eastern canal) and the major (elevated) freeway to the east

Some of the "shops" to which the girls will take you are below street level (about 1 Ĺ metres, 5 feet) so be prepared for the "steps of shame" to descend to the shop walk-in level.

I sampled twice in the past week.

The first time, 2 SYTs called me over, and in broken English and in my broken Chinese explained the services. Yi bai kuai (100 kuai). I "jumped" at the opportunity.

I was taken along a laneway and into an off-street shop. Roller shutters down, glass sliding door locked, and down to business, with the SYT of my choice, while her good friend acted as security, lookout, and general assistant, in the next room.

Service a bit mechanical, but for 100kuai, I wasnít complaining too much. No breast kissing, but touching everywhere else was allowed. The worst part was the highly encouraged withdrawal after shooting my load and the rapid dressing, while I was fumbling for my socks and shoes and all the rest of it. Elapsed time in the bedroom. About 20 minutes. Business focus is more on throughput, than customer satisfaction, or repeat business.

I was assured that 2 girls (them) were available for 200 kuai. A full report, if I take them up on that option, later.

Age: maybe 19.
Experience: little
Body: 8
FK: no
Face: 9
Breasts: B cup
GFE: 4
Repeat: possibly with this SYTís friend
Time on task: no more than 20 minutes
Position(s): mainly missionary with only a little preliminary exploring
Overall: 7 (higher than I would normally rate, because of the sleeze factor, and the pretty face)

A few evenings later, and wishing to explore further along the road (going towards the city), I saw more SYTs in doorways (lower than street level). There are probably 3 or 4 such doorways with SYTs and SWs in them, or to which they will go, with their catch.

I saw a SYT in one of these doorways, and struck up a conversation, encouraged by the female lao ban (boss). Deal struck at 150 kuai. Downstairs, then upstairs at the rear of the shop, doors locked, broken English and broken Chinese, and then down to business. Fake moans at first. And maybe at second, but a killer body (possibly one or two kilograms overweight). Experienced. And so slightly better value for money than the first encounter.

Allowed, encouraged, full roaming of the hands, including hard squeezes of her nipples. Tongue not allowed near any orifice.

Age: maybe 25.
Experience: a lot
Body: 8
FK: no
Face: 6.5
Breasts: B cup (very firm!)
GFE: 7
Time on task: about 25 minutes
Position(s): mainly missionary with a lot of skin contact, massage, rubbing etc, to Mutual satisfaction
Overall: 7.5

Again: rapid and practiced dressing, leaving me to be a distant second at the re-dressing.

Enjoy the southern roadway to the SIP.

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Vietnamboy
11-06-08, 01:10
Hi Pushkin,

Are you based in Suzhuo?

I am making a trip there end of the month. Any tips on the location of BBS and rate for overnight?

Thanks,

VB


The SIP (Suzhou Industrial Park) is the high tech (mostly) area to the east of the Old City.

The road link between Suzhou and the SIP from the southern end of the city is along Yang Zhi Tang Lu.

There is street action along this Lu (Road) on the southern side (direction of traffic away from the City) a little more than midway between Mo Ye Lu (which runs north-south parallel with the cityís eastern canal) and the major (elevated) freeway to the east

Some of the "shops" to which the girls will take you are below street level (about 1 Ĺ metres, 5 feet) so be prepared for the "steps of shame" to descend to the shop walk-in level.

I sampled twice in the past week.

The first time, 2 SYTs called me over, and in broken English and in my broken Chinese explained the services. Yi bai kuai (100 kuai). I "jumped" at the opportunity.

I was taken along a laneway and into an off-street shop. Roller shutters down, glass sliding door locked, and down to business, with the SYT of my choice, while her good friend acted as security, lookout, and general assistant, in the next room.

Service a bit mechanical, but for 100kuai, I wasnít complaining too much. No breast kissing, but touching everywhere else was allowed. The worst part was the highly encouraged withdrawal after shooting my load and the rapid dressing, while I was fumbling for my socks and shoes and all the rest of it. Elapsed time in the bedroom. About 20 minutes. Business focus is more on throughput, than customer satisfaction, or repeat business.

I was assured that 2 girls (them) were available for 200 kuai. A full report, if I take them up on that option, later.

Age: maybe 19.
Experience: little
Body: 8
FK: no
Face: 9
Breasts: B cup
GFE: 4
Repeat: possibly with this SYTís friend
Time on task: no more than 20 minutes
Position(s): mainly missionary with only a little preliminary exploring
Overall: 7 (higher than I would normally rate, because of the sleeze factor, and the pretty face)

A few evenings later, and wishing to explore further along the road (going towards the city), I saw more SYTs in doorways (lower than street level). There are probably 3 or 4 such doorways with SYTs and SWs in them, or to which they will go, with their catch.

I saw a SYT in one of these doorways, and struck up a conversation, encouraged by the female lao ban (boss). Deal struck at 150 kuai. Downstairs, then upstairs at the rear of the shop, doors locked, broken English and broken Chinese, and then down to business. Fake moans at first. And maybe at second, but a killer body (possibly one or two kilograms overweight). Experienced. And so slightly better value for money than the first encounter.

Allowed, encouraged, full roaming of the hands, including hard squeezes of her nipples. Tongue not allowed near any orifice.

Age: maybe 25.
Experience: a lot
Body: 8
FK: no
Face: 6.5
Breasts: B cup (very firm!)
GFE: 7
Time on task: about 25 minutes
Position(s): mainly missionary with a lot of skin contact, massage, rubbing etc, to Mutual satisfaction
Overall: 7.5

Again: rapid and practiced dressing, leaving me to be a distant second at the re-dressing.

Enjoy the southern roadway to the SIP.

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Uss Yorktown
11-09-08, 20:39
Last October I stayed at the Gusu.

Around 12pm went to the massage for footy (cost 70).

Started talking about FS, she asked 300 but I offered 200.

After some time she agreed and came with me to my room.

It did not last long though cause she was very much in a hurry but still.

Just on the left there is 100happy foot massage.

The next night walked in, they ask 50 so why not.

I think she was max. 20yo but asked if I wanted a full massage from her good looking sister for only 120.

Unfortunately I was out of money.

Pushkin13
11-10-08, 01:05
Vietnamboy:

I tried to send you a PM, but according to the message I received you have elected not to receive PMs.

Not sure of the location of the BBSs in Suzhou - it is such a big city.

Rate for o/n will depend to some extent on (i) your negotiation skills, (ii) hours intended by the o/n, (iii) travel and taxi costs, (iv) if known to the mama or WG, (v) likelihood of repeat business, and (vi) if lao wai (foreigner) or not (possibly a 25% or 50% premium for lao wai in some quarters).

Hope that this helps.

P13

Gangbanger
11-13-08, 20:35
Hi all,

I have been lurking around this board for some time now, picking up a lot of good info. Now, I will be traveling to Suzhou soon, staying at the Renaissance hotel.

Qestion:

Is there any action in this hotel ? Inhouse massage service girls willing to offer FS or BJ ? Bar Girls ?

I guess I donīt have the balls to go out to some "special place" but might enjoy a good fuck if its hasslefree.

THANKS for some hints !

Pushkin13
11-26-08, 02:37
I found myself back in Suzhou, and found the mobile phone number of my "earlier provider" from my previous visit.

Using basic Mandarin, and two internet translators (to double check meaning) I contacted this "original provider". I managed Ė with some difficulty Ė to negotiate a double takeaway for 2 x 150 kuai (plus taxi) = 310 kuai.

Take-away to be my "original provider" (attractive looking, mechanical service but with occasional glimpses of GFE. But what the hell! ), plus a girl friend (nu3 peng2 you0) (not short, bu4 duan3) (not a smoker, bu4 yan1 min2). My Mandarin is not yet up to the stage of communicating via mobile phone "and must have at least a B-size rack". (Hopefully, this proficiency will come soon! ).

"2 x 150? ! ", I can hear you ask. Why this cheap?

Well, folks, now in China it is cold, so expressed demand is less than in summer. Latent demand is probably still high, but this is the time of year when the good people of China stay indoors at night and study the Little Red Book of Chairman Mao, the I Ching, "My Guide to Hair Dying" by Hu Jing Tao, the Bible, or whatever else excites them.

And folks, . There are fewer foreigners in China (and Suzhou). Something about a world financial crisis, someone told me last week.

Taxi to rented apartment rooms, saying "Hello. " to previous provider in broken Mandarin (mine) and broken English (herís).

The girl friend (LJ) was attractive, though 25 trying to look 18. Not short (tick), and not a smoker (double tick).

LJ more attractive in the apartment than in the taxi.

At the apartment, it was making my visitors comfortable with chocolate, some "back of the truck" mandarins (ju2 zi), chocolate bars, and green tea. Then it was down to business. Original provider stayed in the lounge room studying an English dictionary, and LJ and I retired to the bedroom.

Quick and obviously practised undressing (her), and slow one-piece-at-a-time undressing (me). Oh, how I would love to set the atmosphere with a slow sometimes-assisted, sometimes-slightly resisted undressing, like I often found in earlier years!

She: the ubiquitous A rack (but possibly A+), and the ubiquitous padded (0. 65 cm) bra.

10 Ė 15 minutes warm up (including hand warming). I donít think she was familiar with lao3 wai2 (foreigner), because her eyes lit up in apprehension and surprise at the size of my "little brother".

Active at encouraging my "little brother" to full size, and passive allowing full roaming of hands. I did not try to directly kiss (this was our first date, after all! ).

Cap on, assisted lubrication, and missionary, with slow and shallow thrusts, increasing in depth and frequency. Biology overcame psychology, and I felt some reciprocal enjoyment. Clitoral stimulation welcomed (by both of us in turns). Shot my load after 10 minutes and felt a few small reflex muscle spasms of enjoyment from her.

All too rapid withdrawal and showering by her, but a pleasant euphoric feeling from me.

My shower, more food, waiting for my recovery. Original provider asked for money (which I found a turnoff) as we had negotiated and confirmed amounts over the phone and before getting into the taxi.

More tea, ju2 zi, and English language study. Original provider started acting slightly aggressively, and threw one of my dictionaries on the coffee table. With another dictionary I showed JL the word "rude". She was a little embarrassed.

Next it was original providerís turn in the bedroom.

At this point it all started to go downhill. She turned on my computer and started opening up the desk drawers. Fortunately, I was close by and closed each drawer quickly in turn. When she got to the "passport" drawer, I raised my voice and said "No. ". She persisted, so I forcibly kept the drawer closed, repeated "No! " and said "Out! ".

I think she was surprised. Certainly, JL was embarrassed. I paid her 200 (down from the original agreement of 300) + 10 for the taxi and bundled original provider out. JL, I would have been happy to see stay, but she left as well.

I am not sure why "original provider" acted so strangely. Perhaps she was so curious about foreigner desk drawers. Perhaps she didnít want to be there. Perhaps she doesnít have the usual social skills for these situations. Perhaps she hadnít taken her medication!

But in any event, she stepped over the bound of acceptable behaviour (for me) so I threw her out.

Phone number deleted, and now I am slightly wiser.

Lesson 1: cheap take-aways (single and double) are available.

Lesson 2: keep a watchful eye, and when a behaviour boundary is approached let her know, and when it is violated, throw her out.

Pity. Because I would like to see LJ again. Perhaps on my next visit.

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Mark17
01-06-09, 17:56
More tea, ju2 zi, and English language study. Original provider started acting slightly aggressively, and threw one of my dictionaries on the coffee table. With another dictionary I showed JL the word "rude". She was a little embarrassed.

Next it was original providerís turn in the bedroom.

At this point it all started to go downhill. She turned on my computer and started opening up the desk drawers. Fortunately, I was close by and closed each drawer quickly in turn. When she got to the "passport" drawer, I raised my voice and said "No. ". She persisted, so I forcibly kept the drawer closed, repeated "No! " and said "Out! ".

I think she was surprised. Certainly, JL was embarrassed. I paid her 200 (down from the original agreement of 300) + 10 for the taxi and bundled original provider out. JL, I would have been happy to see stay, but she left as well.

I am not sure why "original provider" acted so strangely. Perhaps she was so curious about foreigner desk drawers. Perhaps she didnít want to be there. Perhaps she doesnít have the usual social skills for these situations. Perhaps she hadnít taken her medication!

But in any event, she stepped over the bound of acceptable behaviour (for me) so I threw her out.

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Wobudong
01-13-09, 16:44
Ok, been there again a few days ago as I was staying the Taihu (SZ lake resort) area on a golf biz trip with some Chinese biz partners.

We went over last Friday and boy that place is quite something. For those of you who are familiar with Shanghai, the street is about twice as long as Tongren Lu and jam packed with just KTV's and BBS's. The place is a sensory overload as you are bombarded with KTV lights and girls coming out of the BBS's to lure you in.

There were about 10 people in my group, all Chinese except me (my chinese is quite good). Something to keep in mind is that these KTV's are rather small, we had to squeeze in once we picked our girls.

One recommendation.....DO NOT go alone, unless you are fluent in Chinese. You would end up as raw meat (fat wallet) in a pool of Sharks. The place is overwhelming (intimidating) as I said earlier with just KTV's and BBS's on both sides of the street, which is about 1/2 km long. It is quite far from downtown SZ, and as it has been said on previous posts it will take you about 20 minutes to over 1/2 hour to get there.

The quality of the girls is a little all over the map, but there are 100's to choose from with some real gems to be found. The majority are available for take out for about 400~500 rmb. This is one of those places where everything appears to be negotiable.

BBS's feed many of the girls to the KTV's, I actually think that many of these establishments are run by the same owners. I think the best thing is to go with 4 to 5 people, as many rooms will not accommodate more, unless you split into 2 groups, but that detracts from the fun.

If you go, make sure you go with Chinese business associates or partners, do not risk or go alone. Also, get there early (no later than 8.30pm) or the best girls will already been taken.

All in all it is quite an experience every time I go there.

Best,

Wobudong

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Sniffer
02-07-09, 11:00
Thanks for the information. It sounds like a place that worth exploring.

Would someone happen to know the Chinese name or pin yin of this street/area? Or its location? Like which major intersection? "Moa Doa" should not be the official pinyin spelling. I have tried my best guess but could still not figure what that would be.

Thank you very much!




Ok, been there again a few days ago as I was staying the Taihu (SZ lake resort) area on a golf biz trip with some Chinese biz partners.

We went over last Friday and boy that place is quite something. For those of you who are familiar with Shanghai, the street is about twice as long as Tongren Lu and jam packed with just KTV's and BBS's. The place is a sensory overload as you are bombarded with KTV lights and girls coming out of the BBS's to lure you in.

There were about 10 people in my group, all Chinese except me (my chinese is quite good). Something to keep in mind is that these KTV's are rather small, we had to squeeze in once we picked our girls.

One recommendation.....DO NOT go alone, unless you are fluent in Chinese. You would end up as raw meat (fat wallet) in a pool of Sharks. The place is overwhelming (intimidating) as I said earlier with just KTV's and BBS's on both sides of the street, which is about 1/2 km long. It is quite far from downtown SZ, and as it has been said on previous posts it will take you about 20 minutes to over 1/2 hour to get there.

The quality of the girls is a little all over the map, but there are 100's to choose from with some real gems to be found. The majority are available for take out for about 400~500 rmb. This is one of those places where everything appears to be negotiable.

BBS's feed many of the girls to the KTV's, I actually think that many of these establishments are run by the same owners. I think the best thing is to go with 4 to 5 people, as many rooms will not accommodate more, unless you split into 2 groups, but that detracts from the fun.

If you go, make sure you go with Chinese business associates or partners, do not risk or go alone. Also, get there early (no later than 8.30pm) or the best girls will already been taken.

All in all it is quite an experience every time I go there.

Best,

Wobudong

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Wobudong
02-09-09, 05:07
Sorry about the delay answering, I was out of town.

The place is known as Mudu Town in pinyin, or 木渎镇 in Mandarin.

Make sure you don't go alone unless you are in company with someone that can speak fluent Chinese ;)

Enjoy,

Wobudong


Thanks for the information. It sounds like a place that worth exploring.

Would someone happen to know the Chinese name or pin yin of this street/area? Or its location? Like which major intersection? "Moa Doa" should not be the official pinyin spelling. I have tried my best guess but could still not figure what that would be.

Thank you very much!

Hot Lover
03-25-09, 12:40
Sorry about the delay answering, I was out of town.

The place is known as Mudu Town in pinyin, or (G in Mandarin.

Make sure you don't go alone unless you are in company with someone that can speak fluent Chinese ;)

Enjoy,

WobudongCan you please tell where this place can be found?

Many thanks

Wobudong
03-30-09, 04:02
Can you please tell where this place can be found?

Many thanksI'm assuming you're taking a cab. Just print the name I wrote in Mandarin, show it to the Taxi driver and you'll get there.

Wobudong

Schaf29
04-23-09, 13:49
Hi All,

Just a quick one to add on Suzhou as not much seems to be going on. The first experience I had is rather useless, since I do not have an address, I had a tour guide and asked him to show me some ladies first instead of the gardens and he brought me to a very local place. Typical sauna set up, but all a bit rundown and only Chinese men. They told the guide that I am the second foreigner in their establishment since 2 years, everybody laughed and smiled and I had an hour with a nice lady, but nothing to write home about, total cost 300RMB. If anybody is really interested I think I might be able to get the address from the guide, but beware that you should not go alone unless you are at least fluent in mandarin.

Second, hopefully more useful, stayed in a shabby hotel, FX Guanquian at east Ganjiang Road, right in the center of town. They had an add for different types of massage in the room and I was thinking of getting a real massage actually.communication over the phone was very hard, but they managed to understand my room number. Five minutes later a real cuty showed up at my door, no english apart from "sex massage". Well, I did not decline, but she asked for 1000RMD, we settled a deal for 400, still too much, but she was hot and I was horny. She gave me a nice and unrushed service, unfortunately only CBJ, but a good one, then different positions and finished with a HJ as I cannot really come in these cock-ring-like Chinese condoms.

Seems like a typical thing for a Chinese 3 star hotel, they did not even think of giving me a real massage. So in kind you are in town in this hotel, just call the massage service. I cannot recommend the hotel, run-down, dirty and loud.

Anyway, have fun,

Schaf

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Qubei
05-27-09, 11:57
First off I would just like to advise you guys to avoid the touts on the streets as a basic rule. Just ignore them, donít say a word, and usually you get rid of them.

One option is to go to the "bar street" Shi Quan street, on this road you will find a number of bars. You will be able to find girls in most of them. Its a much bigger challenge to find a bar without working girls then with them. I have heard that "The Pub Bar" should be good, but have not been there myself.

I recommend saunas, or hot spring clubs as they most often are called in Suzhou. Two good options that both are located in SIP are;

Peninsula Hot Spring Club, located behind (south of) the Renaissance hotel, just on the other side of the small river.
Wynn International Hot Springs Club, located next to the Shilla hotel.

Both clubs have nice facilities and modern decor. Do not expect that anyone speaks decent English, but you will manage fine anyway. They are very accommodating. If you are not staying in SIP just ask for taxi cards to these hotels and then you can easily find the clubs.

For 698RMB you will get a session of 80-90min maximum. Only one pop allowed. The session usually starts off with a cat bath, CIM is free if you want to and DFK is very dependent on the girl. Also a massage is included (feat/leg and ear if I remember correctly at Peninsula, you can then add head and back for 100RMB). Drinks and fruit are included as well.

Girls can be hit and miss, my suggestion is that if you meet a girl you like. Get her number so you can ask for her again if you come back.

China Maverick
06-04-09, 06:45
Was in Suzhou a couple of weeks back and landed in the hotel a bit late as the car drive from Pudong to Suzhou is 2 hours plus!

Went in to the Shi Quan Jie bar street for a couple of beers and had initially decided to have a quiet evening as had an early meet the next day. I had hopped on to couple of bars and finally landed in one of the smaller girlie bars; it was called "Medusa Bar" or something like that where one could order "Take Away".

Negotiated the deal to RMB 500 for single pop, I guess RMB 100 goes to the mommy and the rest to the girl. Jiangsu girl - rushed service; paid her and then called and complained to the mommy. She sent in a Xinjiang girl - little on the plump side but fantastic GFE, CBJ etc - She covered up for the earlier discontent. Same price single pop which was extended to LT for an additional RMB 300 - multiple pops!

I can share the mommy's contact details with Senior Members through PM

Enjoy
CM

Pushkin13
06-05-09, 00:44
... I had hopped on to couple of bars and finally landed in one of the smaller girlie bars; it was called "Medusa Bar" or something like that where one could order "Take Away".
...
She sent in a Xinjiang girl - little on the plump side but fantastic GFE, CBJ etc - She covered up for the earlier discontent. Same price single pop which was extended to LT for an additional RMB 300 - multiple pops!

I can share the mommy's contact details with Senior Members through PM

Enjoy
CM

Along Shi Quan Jie it is easier to find a bar with ST girls than without them! Tourists beware!

Just my opinion!

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China Maverick
06-05-09, 05:33
Pushkin 13

Just wanted to check with you if there are any places for potential freebies (30 to 40 years category) action? in the SIP area. I do speak fair amount of Chinese; although not a fluent speaker!

Thanks in advance
CM


Along Shi Quan Jie it is easier to find a bar with ST girls than without them! Tourists beware!

Just my opinion!

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Xal Jean
06-08-09, 04:21
I have the pamphlet if any wants the info. Itís pretty easy to find though. Itís right across the small river in the back of the Renaissance hotel.If you can told me the adress, maybe i will give a try. By the way any others good adress in SIP zone?

Xal Jean
06-09-09, 02:52
First off I would just like to advise you guys to avoid the touts on the streets as a basic rule. Just ignore them, donít say a word, and usually you get rid of them.

One option is to go to the "bar street" Shi Quan street, on this road you will find a number of bars. You will be able to find girls in most of them. Its a much bigger challenge to find a bar without working girls then with them. I have heard that "The Pub Bar" should be good, but have not been there myself.

I recommend saunas, or hot spring clubs as they most often are called in Suzhou. Two good options that both are located in SIP are;

Peninsula Hot Spring Club, located behind (south of) the Renaissance hotel, just on the other side of the small river.

Wynn International Hot Springs Club, located next to the Shilla hotel.

Both clubs have nice facilities and modern decor. Do not expect that anyone speaks decent English, but you will manage fine anyway. They are very accommodating. If you are not staying in SIP just ask for taxi cards to these hotels and then you can easily find the clubs.

For 698RMB you will get a session of 80-90min maximum. Only one pop allowed. The session usually starts off with a cat bath, CIM is free if you want to and DFK is very dependent on the girl. Also a massage is included (feat/leg and ear if I remember correctly at Peninsula, you can then add head and back for 100RMB). Drinks and fruit are included as well.

Girls can be hit and miss, my suggestion is that if you meet a girl you like. Get her number so you can ask for her again if you come back.Both only one pop? Both have large selection?

Bonbon John
06-09-09, 13:44
Hi

just returned from peninsula which is located next to Renaissance... Empty handed.

They only had normal massage, no extras available. I had leg massage, ears cleaned and when girl started to offer normal back massage from their price list I smelled something was wrong. I asked the manager and asked "VIP" they said not available. So I said bu ke yi and left.

Then in the front desk staff asked 158RMB for room and 18 for beer. I said I only pay the beer, nothing more since they did not tell VIP is not available. They suggested couple of other prices but I ended up paying only the beer.

So sorry to say but at the moment Peninsula is dead end... Or at least it was for me.

BR

John


Both only one pop? Both have large selection?

Pushkin13
06-10-09, 01:43
Pushkin 13

Just wanted to check with you if there are any places for potential freebies (30 to 40 years category) action? in the SIP area. I do speak fair amount of Chinese; although not a fluent speaker!

Thanks in advance
CM

Potentially there are freebies everywhere. Try the usual "high density" places - Starbucks and other Western style eateries.

It is to your huge advantage that you speak a little Mandarin.

You might be able to double or triple your chances by including the Old City. Usually it is but a 1 kuai bus ride or a 10 - 15 kuai taxi ride away.

At the moment, a SYT who is an English language major at a local university, who picked me up/picked me out in an Old City bookstore, is practicing her English language with me. (cough)

Also, it may be worth trawling the dating sites.

I had an unexpected find on "WebFrog" about 2 months ago. [A slightly overweight large-breasted ST (mid-30s) was semi-flashing. She lives in KunShan, merely 30 minutes away by bus, and about 10 minutes by bullet train. I helped her to unwind, one memorable weekend. "big smile" here.]

Hope that this helps.

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Qubei
06-10-09, 15:41
One pop is standard practice at the saunas/hot spring clubs I guess.

Maybe the saunas in Suzhou also are feeling the heat from LE at the moment?

Xal Jean
06-14-09, 06:18
Heh Bonbon John,

Thanks for the information, I've also done a massage on a spa in Suzhou but nothing special.

If you have any advice for better spa treament please let me know ;)

(i dont want bbs, bar)

Qubei
07-07-09, 23:51
Lately I have gotten better impressions from Shi Quan street, you just have to be patient. Found a gem at the Milano bar among others.

If you look through the bars you can find young nice students wanting to make some extra money. Take them back to your place, avoid staying too long at the bar with them, it will just cost you.

If you like the girl, get her number and call her directly next time.

Drinks are usually 20-35RMB depending on what you get. Always check the price before you buy something for a girl you would like to get to know better.

Expect to pay ~500RMB for 2-3h and ~800RMB for all night

If you dont see anyone you like just hop on to the next bar. I think its best to come early (~8PM) so all girls are there and available.

Pushkin13
07-11-09, 03:18
Often there are about 20 SYTs and maybe 6 Ė 8 mummies on non-rainy nights along Yang Zhi Tang Lu after about 9/9:30pm.

Rainy nights dissolve the FLs and leave the beckoning mummies free reign under umbrellas and awnings, ever hopeful.

Usually along the road, the shutters (metal rolling vertical doors) are pulled down, because LE has been active in the recent past. Some of the ďshopsĒ are not on the street, but within sight of the road, if you know where and how to look.

The SYTs are almost all at the youngest end of the WG spectrum. I feel that many of the SYTs know some English, but the (older) mummies rarely so.
Prices through the mummies are a standard 150 kuai ST (usually 30 mins), the deed being done on the premises. Some of the FLs (not apart of the pricing cartel!) will charge 100, including local room access fee.
I sampled along this road last week, around 11pm.

Although I had ďyellow feverĒ prior to my research walk I donít take any notice of a pair of SYTs at the eastern end of the ďpatchĒ, probably because they looked too innocent (cough!), and didnít exude any w.h.o.r.e. ďairĒ even though they were in the ďshadeĒ of a tree.

One of them called after me in an appealing manner, and said a few words in Suzhou hua, which I didnít catch, but whose intent was clear enough, that she didnít want a potential catch to get away.

I smiled, of course, and retraced my half a dozen steps. With fluttering eyelids, a shy smile and universal finger in closed fist sign she said ďyi bai kuaiĒ [one hundred kuai]. I smiled, and confirmed in Mandarin ďyi1 bai3 kuai4]. She repeated in agreement, and said (in English) ďLetís go!Ē.

I deferred, but she (they) were keen. I asked ďfang2 jian1Ē (=room) ďni3 you3 mei3 you3Ē (=you have, not have?). ďYou3Ē (= have). ďLetís go!Ē

So off I went with 2 SYTs, with clearly SYT1 the leader and provider. SYT2 was either not working that night, and the temporary mummy, or was deferring to SYT1ís superior entrepreneurial, and English language, skills. Along the road, down a side street, over a little bridge (this is Suzhou, after all), down another side street, and after about 4 stumbles on half bricks in the half light, there we were, at one of the local FL activity epi-centres in this part of Suzhou

It was being used, so I made a few grunting noises and cupped my ear in the general direction. Though it was dark, I saw the instant red glow of their embarrassed cheeks in the moments before their hands went involuntarily to hide their reaction.

10 minutes and several exchanges of inconclusive banter later, a happy punter descended the stairs, with a very attractive FL following moments later. (Why is it that the male always exits first? Just my little research question at this point in time.)

Modesty and slow thinking saw me lose any digit-swapping opportunity.

Then it was my turn. For me it was the usual hot and humid weather performance, slow to start but with an increasing tempo, to finish about 20 minutes later with a delicious ďrushĒ of endorphins to accompany the short shoves.

Summary:
face: 8
body: 8
attitude: 9 during negotiations, 6 at the climax, 9 at payment.
age: 19 (Chinese age)
sleaze: 7. I would have rated it higher, but there werenít any stains on the mattress cover and only a few leavings on the floor, from earlier in the evening.
cost: 100 kuai
tip: 20 kuai, 15 kuai for some hints of submission, and for fanning me with paper during the ďlong shovesĒ, though she lost concentration during the ďshort shovesĒ. 5 kuai, on bended knees in front of me, at the conclusion, for to tieing up my shoe laces.

repeat: you bet, but SYT2 was also of interest. My first training task at the repeat would be to slow down her undressing. She was all-too-practiced (cough!), even at such a tender age. For me, it is exciting to assist with the undressing (or even to overcome token resistance), and encourage passivity, just like my Internet freebies.

P13