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Guys,
Good stuff there LA Larry, but I have to agree with Seydlitz, 3000 is just too much, they will take and perform for less than that .....
Next report ...
The allnighter with Aon left me quite bombed out, so after she left I decided to get some actual sleep for a couple of hours, then went out exploring Bangkok ..... that night I was having a few drinks in the Nana hotel bar, talking to an english guy, when he informed me that the night before at 2 am when the disco closed he negotiated a 300 bt all nighter with a cute 18 yr old .... bullshit, I thought .... so, I waited around to see, sure enough, 2 am, he went and was talking to a few of them when he walked over with a young girl, yep 300 bt for the night, admittedly I wouldn't have looked twice at her ... but 300 bt ! .... so, I walked over to a cute girl who was talking to her friend, we started talking .... she seemed nice, didn't speak much english, but that wasn't a problem, I asked how much long time .... 2,000 bt, I said no .... 1,000 bt .... which she seemed to think long and hard about then said ok, so back up to my room 2.35 am, both showered and got into it, again started with the standard bbbj, followed by screwing in 2 positions .... a bit of sleep, then back into it again, a bit more sleep then round 3 at about 11 am !! ..... had good sex 3 times in night with a girl that cost me 1,000 bt, yes, maybe there were girls that would take less .... but I don't wan't to except less either .... by the way this girls name was Pim, 19 yrs old, 5'4, tits were a bit small, but she had a great ass, and a great smile ..... all in all not quite as good Aon from the previous night, but at half the price, couldn't beat it.
Keep up the great posts guys .... you gave a first timer like me to LOS some invaluable information, thanks .....
OzGuy.
OK guys, i am throwing my hat into the ring, i will be at TLR friday, does anybody have a head count yet? Will be in jeans, and some type of Indonesian "batik" shirt, easy to spot.
Is everybody planning on eating before or during? I am partial to the food at the open air seafood restaurant on Soi 7, opposite beer garden.
Thought I might try number 17 at Annies before showing up. Was there a month ago for the first time, for you veterans of MP, I have a question: A lot of you talk about the rubber mattress, there was none to be found. She put me in the bathtub, gave me a very nice BBBJ to completion, then we proceeded to the bed for a massage, followed by round 2 after some recuperation, but no rubber mattress. How did I miss it?
Another thing. I feel anybody who removes their posts shouldn't be allowed to post anymore. Any comments?
Let's not forget to toast Jackson on Friday with a nice tall frosted Beer Chang
See u punters next week
1 ball.
Just a quick warning about the Pharmacy in Soi 4. This is the small one just by the entrance to the Nana Hotel. DO NOT buy Viagra from this place. The stuff they sell looks like the real thing but is about 25% effective. I was in a hurry to catch a plane so I dropped in and purchased four of the offending items. They work a little but are really pretty terrible. These were not sold to me in a packet but individually. They were also a little cheaper than usual so I should have realised.
Always buy ones in a sealed packet!
Wayne King
LA Larry
Absolutely right about the S/T - L/T deal. Go for the first round and then make up your mind. I often drop in a performance clause into the deal. It is 1000 with a bonus of 500 if you really "make my bell ring." If you remember these girls are pros (no matter how cute they seem) extra money is extra money.
It always amazes me that you sometimes get these girls into your room and they have not got a clue.
I always drop in the option of L/T when starting negotiation. It is then discussed and dismissed with the words 'only if you are really hot' etc.. this usually does the trick. You end up paying 2,000 and having a great time. If the girl is a dud you just give her 1,000 and send her on her way.
By then it is late and the prices have probably dropped anyway.
I am also not a scrouge when it comes to this type of transaction. I just like to know my money is being spent wisely.
OzGuy
You know all that stuff about seeing her friend etc... was BS. She was off to see another client that had just walked into her bar and was after her. You know that...right? Girls with that level of enthusiasm are much sought after.
Have fun everyone and be safe,
Wayne King
Wayneking,
Yes my man, I knew exactly what Aon was up to ... I pity the poor guy she was going to straight after me .... but that is the precise reason I sent her on her way with half the original deal, you have to be firm with what you expected .... if you don't get it, they don't either !!!
OzGuy.
TonydaSnake
12-05-02, 07:17
Great that things are heating up in BangKOK!
1ball- I find it hilarious that #17 at Annie's, Oii, is becoming the most famous girl in Bangkok! She was recommended sometime ago by myself and others who had similar good experiences, and that bothered some posters simply because Annie's "doesn't rate" with the best soapies. Go Oii!!! I don't think you missed much with the rubber mattress, since she gets rough sliding on it and I actually thought she might snap my unit off by accident.
As far as offering big bhat (3000) for performance from gogo girls this is flawed logically. Girls who lack skills (e.g. don't know how to give BJ) won't acquire them suddenly because extra cash is offered. Girls who have good attitudes, and skills, will perform for less. Pay whatever you want for sex, I really don't care, but if I thought for one second that the man who paid 3000-4000 bhat a night was having alot more fun than I was paying half that much than I'd never go to Bangkok again. Once or twice a trip I shell out the big bhat to experience that "something extra" that you big spenders seem to be looking for, but it has eluded me....
Originally posted by LA Larry
You need only ask yourself the question: back in Los Angeles--how much would it cost to be with a porn star quality girl all night? The 3000 baht will seem cheap.
The 3000 B will seem cheap because that's the wrong question. Remember: you ARE NOT in Los Angeles, you ARE in Bangkok, so the right question to ask yourself is: how much does it cost to be with a porn star quality girl all night in Bangkok? The cost is usually in the range 1000-2000 B.
LA Larry, I disagree with you on the payment policy, but apart from that I find your posts very interesting and full of useful information and insight into the scene. I hope you keep your great work up.
gladiator,
1000-2000 for Porn Star quality? u sure about that? the sideliners at any of the major soapies are at least 2,500-6,000bht. and they are the closest to what i would consider porn start quality. I have yet to find one bargirl that can be considered from a Western standpoint as porn star quality.
i've never paid more than 2,000bht but if the gurl looks like kobe tai, I would pay 4,000BHT easily...
tapioca
OzGuy
Good to hear you are on the ball. Never believe a word BUT do marvel at those greast bodies and tiny pussies. An unlimited supply of fun.
LA Larry
He has got a point. Once you have paid the barfine again and another 1,000 you are not far off the pace. I disagree with most on this board and that might be why many are not getting the right Bang for the Buck. There is nothing in this world like a little financial incentive to get the best out of a workin' girl.
I mean they are only in it for the money. Performance clauses!!! This is the true Sanookers friend.
SO you decide to pay them Bht 2,000. Tell them you will only pay 1,500 with an extra 500 in the morning for a 'Hot Hummer' for breakfast. No Hummer no money.
I also get the girls to make all the final calls they can on their phone and then turn the f!@#$%& thing off. Firstly it is dangerous to have a TG with a phone in her hand. God only knows who she can call. Also I have been woken so many times by the bloody things that it is enough to drive a man to drink. I keep thinking it is my wife after me,
Wayne King
Hey Fellas--
To be perfectly crystal clear about my 1000 ST- 3000 LT policy:
I ONLY GO AFTER THE HOTTEST SNAPPER!
Believe me when I say that there are some select primo, grade A, quality girls plying their trade in Bangkok. They make up a very small percentage of the availble working girls out there....Because, as I say, 90% of the girls who hustle in BBK are average. (Of course--I would still bang them, but I wouldn't kid myself into thinking that they were gorgeous porn stars). [DON'T GET ME WRONG.....I love BBK.... Its just that I have to be ruthlessly honest with myself (and others who may have never visted the LOS)] the available amount of working girls ready to drop to their knees at a drop of a hat is mind "blowing". And sometimes we mongers get into the habit of mistaking quantity with quality.
When I am in Moscow or Buenos Aires I often walk into a club and am immediately thunderstruck by what I initially perceive as a smorgasboard of primo poontang. But upon closer inspection, after I settle in, after the initial shock of seeing a gaggle of sluts, vamped up to the nines---I usually end up realizing that in fact that there isn't a beaver in the house whom I am really interested in (and I usually high tail it to the next joint where the same thing occurs. Until finally I strike gold and find that magic gash I just have to have.
Now--in my limited experience of Thailand mongering--it is in fact true that the vast majority of Go-Go girls will infact accept 2000-2500 baht for long time (which usually means 2-3 loads and a few hours of humping--at which point they want to leave and will usually proffer some lame excuse about having to get up for school, baby, etc.----which is just fine with me as I don't feel comfortable sleeping with strangers. God forbid you wake up the next day and she's chopped your dick and balls off. Hey stranger things have happened!
But I digress...My point is:
My taste in women has been perverted by American Porn movies and I when I monger--I am looking for a Thai Girl who has a great pair of tits (real or fake) and a perfect ass, and beautiful, sexy face with long silky hair and thick luscious lips. (Pretty hard to find in Bangkok--unless you're willing to settle for a Lady Boy! which I am not)
Moreover, when I find one of these stunning "potential" porn stars and bring them back to my room--I apply the most stringent, staunchest criteria before I would ever dare "execute" the 3000 baht clause.
Quite frankly--I expect this stunning sex-doll to:
1) Love to suck cock and be willing to take a load in her face with joy and enthusiasm. Virtually everyone of my sessions ends with my cumming in my selected lovely's face...Additionally, I am a great fan of the deep throat experience and search the globe for girls who can gobble my schlong. Typically, I will coach and cajol the girls into at least trying to stuff it all the way down their throats. (This rarely works) but the point is--the girl must be an ORAL CHAMPION of the first order. And if she isn't then I would never consider executing my 3000 baht long time clause (see my earlier post).
2) I attempt Anal sex with everyone of these girls. And if they accept, then I really enjoy putting them through the old paces. That is to say, I just don't slip it in their asshole and celebrate over the fact that they let me can them. No siree. My Thai provider has to really get into our Anal sex. She has to beg me in a loud voice to "fuck my ass harder!!!" If she doesn't comply then there is no way that I would "execute" the 3000 baht clause.
IF the girl doesn't live up to the high standards of the above criteria then by all means! I pay the girl the 1000 baht and head back down to Patpong in search of a new Go-Go girl that will accomodate me.
So--to be perfectly clear again--the times I actually end up "executing" my 3000 baht Long time clause are few and far between.
It works for me because I end up with several exceptional 1000 baht sessions with pornstar quality chicks. (And while these sessions rarely end up into the 3000 baht all night sessions--they still generally are way above average because my Thai provider is trying her best for the brass ring (the 3000 baht).
What I would then do--is get the girls cell number and often see the girl another night under a new set of criteria that has nothing to do with the 3000 baht rule.
Kind complicated, i know, but it keeps the hobby from becooming tedious!
Remember, remember, remember, LA Larry is a big proponet of paying 1000 baht for a great session with a 10.
I think long-time is overrated. AND ONLY SUGGEST DOING A LONG-TIME SESSION with a girl who complies to my own rigid set of criteria.
The point of the "LA Larry 1000 ST-3000 LT baht systems" is to get the most pleasure out of short time session and leave you (the buyer) with the option of extending your pleasure only if your girl is a sex superstar.
You are completely misunderstanding the system if you end up paying a 3000 baht to a girl for just average or better than average sex. SHE HAS TO BE A VORACIOUS ANIMAL LIKE ASHLYN GERE OR GEENA FINE, ETC. Then and only then should the reader execute the clause.
That is all.
Signed--
La Larry
TonydaSnake
12-06-02, 21:26
LA Larry,
YOU DA MAN!!! I've rarely read a post as well written and pursuasive as your last. I think anyone will be able to understand your system and see its worth. I know I am intimidated by the hottest of the hot chicks and I think alot of others are as well. It is easy, therefore, to rationaize that they aren't worth big bhat because they are most likely bad performers. But your system takes away the additional anxiety that you are being taken by paying big bhat up front. I know I will try your techniques the next opportunity I have since I believe it is somewhat sad to travel to a foreign land and settle for the average "7."
One last thought- Perhaps you would consider sharing some of your finds with this forum as someone earlier posted how great a database could be that list the skills, physical attributes and contact info of "primo snapper" as you say. Keep up the good work!
larry,
i c where ur coming from...well, prob because i'm from LA too...but i have yet to encounter a girl that has what you described as 3,000bht worthy. tell me u took pics of at least 1 of these gals? i wanna see this porn star quality...
which gogo in patpong did u pick up at?
tapioca1688@hotmail.com
tapioca
Dick Johnson
12-06-02, 22:20
WHAT A JOKE! I have been waiting for over a week for someone to point this out since no one else did, I will.
Originally posted by LA Larry
IMHO--the best looking glamour girls to be had in Thailand are the GO-GO girls in Pat Pong. To be more precise--in Pat Pong.
WHAT! PATPONG???
But--god save the queen--there was always a few gems out of the GO-GO bars that made my visits worthwhile.
QUEEN - FREUDIAN SLIP.
I like glamour girls in their early 20s with western features and large breasts. The only place to find these girls (en masse) in BBK are Pat Pong and the Massage Parlours (like Posidons--which I highly recommed).
The floor is now open for questions. Fire away and I will try to answer them as best I can.
Who's this LA Larry? Went to BKK for the 1st time thinks he's the expert.
Because he HAS BEEN SCREWING POST OPERATION LADYBOYS AND DOESN'T EVEN KNOW IT!
"Glamour girls in their early 20s with western features and large breasts."
And in subsequent posts :
"Porn Star..."
"Fake breasts"
"Anal sex..she has to beg me " fuck my ass harder"
Tapioca has a point. He asked what Porn Star in Patpong?
There aint no porn stars like girls Patpong! The Thai girls in Patpong are short little brown girls with small breasts and Asian features.
The LADYBOYS in Patpong are the glamour girls with western features. Very pretty, big breasts(often superb boob jobs), looking really clean, likes nasty sex, porn star looks, ALL the things this clown mentioned.
ASLEY GERE or GEENA FINE? This guy will lead many innocent down the paths of LADYBOYDOM!
Thank goodness Dick Johnson is here to enlighten all.
Dick and Taipoca--
No interest in starting a flaming war.
But to clarify my position: if you want to see great quality chicks near 9s go to Poisedens, or Soi 33, or a few joints in Patpong.
Again--I'm talking about a miniscule percentage of Thai girls working in these places/area.
Perhaps you should reread my post. (Almost all of the girls in BBK strike me as average. The city is flooded with a sea of 800,000 average looking hookers.)
But I assure readers that if they bounce in and out of 10 go-go bars in Patpong--or pay one visit to Soi 33--they will indeed discover the rare gems who tend to get lost (or stick out) amidst the throng of pussy for sale in every thai nook and crany.
For example--at the Kings Castle in Patpong (not the King's Corner) there are easily 80 girls working as dancers. Some are in fact ladyboys. A friend of mine banged one!
But a small number of these 80 girls--say 4-6 are stunning creatures (real girls) who have smoking hot bodies with either real tits (34Cs) or fake ones and sexy faces.
Re: performance of these girls:
Do they all do anal? No!
Do they all deep throat? Hell No!
Do they look exactly like American Porn Stars? No! They're Thai girls! They aren't exact replicas of American porn stars. But, they have the same qualities as Western Porn Stars (except for their asian facial features).
You seem to suggest that there are no "westernized" Thai chicks in Thailand (except lady boys). Generally speaking this is true. But I was perfectly clear in my post that I was searching for a needle in the haystack.
Here are the numbers that I am working off of, tell me if you think them fair:
-if there are 1000 go-go girls dancing in the entire PatPong section in the various bars.
-800 out of the 1000 dancers are average to below average looking.
-100 are out and out dogs
-50-75 are lady boys
-25-50 out of the 1000 dancers in all of Patpong are incredible specimens---great bodies, faces, hair, etc.
2-6 girls in every bar is a stunning hottie (some bars might only have 1-2 stunners).
[I didn't see a single stunner at the Long Gun--but I saw plenty of girls I would have happily banged)
Why do you dispute that my estimation that 2.5% of the 1000 girls of Patpong bars are exceptional hotties--comparable to that of smoking hot western stripper/porn-star women of the US?
I;ll concede to you that 975 of the 1000 girls in Patpong are little brown girls with flat asses and no tits.
Go to Thailand. Look past all the average chicks, the thousands and thousands of freelancers. Be patient. Amongst the multitudes of mediocrity you will find some gems that look like the hottest girls you see on Asian porn sites. (Believe you me!)
(Except in Pattaya--where I searched high and low. Maybe it was a bad period, but it seemed that Pattaya was the bush leagues--the real talent was found in Bangkok).
To beat a dead horse---
Most of the talent in Thailand is average.
A handful of girls in Patpong look like pornstars and are real girls
If this is your type of girl, feel confident that you can indeed find her in Patpong.
Luckily there are enough of this handful of Grade A snapper to keep you busy.
When you get her back to your room, demand porn star service.
If she balks--send her on her way with 1000 baht for the short time.
If she complies with your commands--keep her around for an extended session.
OVER AND OUT
Originally posted by tapioca
I have yet to find one bargirl that can be considered from a Western standpoint as porn star quality.
You're right. I didn't mean western-style porn stars, I meant oriental-style porn stars. It's pointless to go to LOS in search of western-alike, multi-operated, silicone-valley types.
The average oriental-style porn star, IMHO, is an 8+, with enthusiastic and motivated attitude, good oral skills, and a certain degree of proficiency while fucking in several different positions. You can get that in BKK for 1000-2000 B p/night.
Larry, if you think there're just 50-75 ladyboys in the entire Patpong area you definitely don't know how to spot them.
Dick Johnson
12-07-02, 00:37
Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information for Men who are looking for sex with Women.
Please try to refrain from personal attacks and stick to the subject.
Jackson
JuiceSpike
12-07-02, 00:58
Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information for Men who are looking for sex with Women.
Please try to refrain from personal attacks and stick to the subject.
Jackson
i actually do agree with adlez on one thing...monet, picasso, van gogh...they are really overrated. girls just dress better but they're not prettier. when i went into monet, i could see girls i'll fuck, but not at those bf prices. although if i ever did see one that looks like kobe tai, i'll def. pay it...and i'm going to bf her for a whole week too....
Larry,
to dispell any rumours that u might have done a katoey, i think u should really consider sending me one pic of a 3,000bht worthy "chick". oh, did u pick from the fishbowl, sideline, or 3rd floor at posiedon?
tapioca
Dick Johnson
12-07-02, 07:33
3000 baht ST for soi 33 girls. Bar fine ranges from 1200-1600baht + 1500-2000ST, 2000-2500LT. I'v had a few soi 33 girls, no big deal. But one girl I banged from Nana Disco for 1000baht ST I saw her working at soi 33 a week later!
I agree with adlez for once;-) about the don't know shit part.
DJ
TonydaSnake
12-07-02, 07:34
Why the wolf pack mentality? You can question the integrity of what a man writes without tearing every bit of flesh from the bones. To say you're defending the virtue of novices reading these posts is no excuse since it is their responsibility to read back through the archives, and make intelligent decisions, or not based on reading more than one poster.
Still, LA Larry, you may have overplayed the porn star theme a tad, and basically no one bought it. Thai girls just aren't that great looking and the best looking ones in terms of western taste (tall, light skinned, more angular features) are of the higher social classes. These types, who prostitute themselves, cater to the high paying Japenese clientele and are relatively untouchable to us farang except those who are well connected. I have never seen the Katoey that I could mistake as a "10" or even in "8" but people say they exist. In my opinion it would be exceedingly difficult to find a Thai girl who is a "10" who will let you enter every orifice, give her a facial, and shout naughty things at you. Hell, I'd just like to find a Thai girl who is a "10" one day! But it beats me why everyone gets so pissed over some words on a page. What a bunch of little Hitlers.
Dick Johnson
12-07-02, 07:41
Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information for Men who are looking for sex with Women.
Please try to refrain from personal attacks and stick to the subject.
Jackson
TonydaSnake
12-07-02, 07:52
Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information for Men who are looking for sex with Women.
Please try to refrain from personal attacks and stick to the subject.
Jackson
TonydaSnake
12-07-02, 08:21
I met a group of Australians who had been to Bangkok dozens of times (as sex tourist) between them, and everyone here would have laughed, or cried, at just about everything they said about Bg's. Point is that multiple trips to Bangkok ain't the only criteria for who have the right to speak about Thai BG's or write in this forum.
I put forth the notion that Jackson is the moderator of this forum and decides who is speaking inappropriately. If you truly think a poster is deliberately lying or harmful to WSG, than email Jackson about it.
I am thanking this Christmas season for those who can be critical but civil...like Tapioca.
Peace and good cheer....
LA Larry: Thanks for bringing a new perspective on Bkk. Personally, I have no interest in Patpong or in Soi 33 but I see where you are coming from and it is good to get your take on them as few people post about them. Of course, there are big women with big hub caps in Bkk as all they guys in Grace can attest. And I see your point about the performance clause. I just don't agree with it or with looking for porno lookalikes. When I see porno, I am usually looking at genitals, the face hardly figures. I like LOS for allowing me to work through my fantasies. I would not go there for big porno types though i know lotsa guys like some meat on the bone.
Lotsa guys here like soapies, massage parlors etc. Not for me. Nor is marking some hired hole out of 10, unless they are particularly memorable. Lek, the little Bkk waif was (world's greatest fuck but no one cared). The BB One was interesting but the rest are just hired fucks. When I am ramming them, I am not admiring the length of their nose or the bridge work on their teeth. I am just using them as sluts, fucking the life out of them, like they are motor bikes and I am revving up the engine to watch it hum. They are my hired toys, hired to fuck.
Bottom line LOS is an adult Disney land (with lotsa fairies). I get to work through my quota, LA Larry drills some other specimens and throws em some loose change (3k bt would not get a skank in Tokyo). He also makes the point he does not do 3k bt too often.
The gay etc charges are not helpful except, I think, in one respect. Because pussy is so cheap and plentiful there, it is easy to go too far. Gotta watch that.
Seydlitz: come back and talk sense to these people. LA Larry etc, keep up the posts and keep it civil. I will be in LOS in Feb but will not make it to Patpong or Soi 33. I will fucking the rural hos and reporting back here. But only if you are good.
Going bareback?
I have noticed, from some posts, that some people, including joe_z, go bareback with selected girls, especially those they know for a longer time.
Well, after being in Thailand about 5 times as a tourist (always few weeks) and now for about 5-6 months in a row as a "semi-resident", I am noticing I am less and less afraid of HIV/STDs and with 2 girls go bareback also... I took one of them to Bum. hospital and she was clean. Still, there is 3-6 months period where HIV doesn get detected in a system. Pretty stupid, but it seems that for *some* people, including me, AND I THINK MANY OTHERS AS I SPEAK TO THEM (!!!), they care less and less about any STDs as they stay longer and longer.. U just buy Rulid time from time ;)). Cannot really explain this stupid behaviour to myself. Someone with similar experience (and I do know there are some people like me!) to help in here? :)) Why we do it? As for me, having my d%$k in her pussy without any latex is pleasure times 10000x, this is my reason.. Taking pleasure to the next level. I wonder what will be next..
Hey Guys;
I love bareback but I want to live to fuck another day. As a drug counselor, I have a healthy fear of HIV.
PLAY IT SAFE!
Herpes, Sexual Acne on a chronic scale, is no joke and there is a drug-resistant strain of syphilis out there
TonyTony,
That's what's called 'getting used to...'.
After a while you will get used to anything.
I even got used to the rubber around my dick:).
And the combination never fails to please me.
Just go out and find your personal rubber, the one that fits and pleases:).
Z#elda, Najene, are right that HIV isn't your only worry.
A nice fungal infection can end your sexual pleasure within a day. The clap does the same, but it takes a little longer and if you just leave it you will end the way ScottJoplin did.
Insane and dead:(
Hi there,
Just a little information which may be helpful to those of you who have expressed fear that you may have met a post operation transvestites 10. The clitoris is extra large even after post operation.Reason is because the remainder of the glans penis (the dick head to you layman) is used to make the clitoris. If you are in the process of undressing the most beautiful girl in the world and you have some doubt, just feel down there.
For some guys, if it looks like a chicken, feels like a chicken, taste like a chicken and sounds like a chicken; it is a chicken- period.
Originally posted by Freeler
TonyTony,
That's what's called 'getting used to...'.
After a while you will get used to anything.
I even got used to the rubber around my dick:).
And the combination never fails to please me.
Well, I know what I did was pretty stupid.. But there is A LOT of long-time residents that DO go bareback, much more than first-timers. Strange. First-timers and tourists are more afraid, in a very good way, sometimes almost insane (going only for a hand-job, e.g.). Well, I would never ever go bareback in any other country, Europe, US, Russia, etc. But, this doesnt apply to SOME people in Thailand...
Anyway, as somebody understood, I DO NOT RECOMMEND GOING BAREBACK, NEVER!!, I just wonder why some people, including me AND SOME MEMBERS OF THIS FORUM, do it :) Sometimes. With girls they "know" for a longer time. What are your reasons??? If u r willing to admit.. I did :)
BTW, for Z.elda: I'm not from Australia, but Russia ;) THat's why there will be Vodka for u!!
What is going on here. I have been in no where Mainland China on business with no internet for a week and it looks like a war of delete messages. I hope we can all get along next friday. see you guys on friday!
Y'all,
Well, that about sums it up, don't it?
Bottomline is that Patpong is awash with scams and katoeys. Prices are inflated, not just by my standards, but by BKK standards in general.
Chances are, as Dick Johnson pointed out, that LA Larry did join in the holy deed with women that once were men.
And that brought a little :) to my face...
But, to me, there is some advice in all this for all those men looking to have sex with women:
Avoid Patpong like the plague!
Patpong is for tourists, not for the likes of us!
(People new to this may confuse Patpong and Patong. Patpong is in Bangkok, Patong on the beautiful island of Phuket some 800km South of BKK.)
If you really want to spend your time in BKK, spend it in the Sukhumvit area.
For a newbie, despite all the blabbing against that town, Pattaya is a safer and more transparant destination.
TonydaSnake
12-07-02, 22:11
Lets leave World War 3 for Iraq.
TonyTony,
I went condomless twice in October, with a ST bargirl who stayed till the morning, and with a soapy girl. I was satisfied and ready to leave the soapy (sitting up and putting socks on) when she backs up against me...boiiiiinnnnggg! She starts rubbing willie in her crack and I just had to poke her in the butt, of all places. I thought I was done when I had the condom on, and blew a load in 1 minute without! The advice to look for a condom that works for you is good since I was feeling nothing with the Japanese brand I first tried after running out of my supply. The Thai Durex ultrlights worked good for me...
AdleZ,
Your method, mechanically dumping semen in 200bhat receptacles, sounds like what most Thai men do. It is interesting that I've heard plenty of criticism of brothels for local Thai men, but you seem to walk on water here? Maybe you can tell me what a Thai ***** monger would say that you don't say. Maybe you have yourself learned the Thai man's distaste for westerners. Maybe the next time I go to Bangkok I'll just put a blindfold on and hold up 200 bhat. Would that be acceptable to you; because otherwise I couldn't resist the temptation to use my eyes. This is written with a smile since I always laugh when I read your posts and have no problem with your path in life. Just curious.
Freeler - "clap" is gonnorhea (diplococcus, the "drip") and aside from there being "penicillin resistant strains" is generally cureable, what Joplin (and Al Capone as well) had was syphillis (a much more insidious infection in that it doesn't produce outward signs immediately - after the advent of the big P, syph became generally cureable as well). Either way, a crash helmet keeps you safe. Life is not a dress rehersal, stay safe
Dinghy,
Mixed them up!
Anyway, I'm not planning to pick either one up.
But hell, somehow this thread misplaced itself in the BKK section...
najene,
email me...
tapioca1688@hotmail.com
adlez,
judging by looks, she's just another ho i guess...go rent some of her movies....now THAT is 3,000bht worthy, 6,000bht, shit....even 20,000bht, i'll do it.
tapioca plays lots of video games. right now, i'm hooked on counter strike and grand theft auto3.
I have heard that pegasus and piano bar's got HOTTIES in there, but since I've never been and prob never will, I will let DJ handle the ratings there.
tapioca
TonydaSnake
12-08-02, 08:43
adleZ...how is your transformation into a Thai national coming along? And how are you doing it? Are you taking DNA transfusions like in the Bond film? What are you now 30%, 50% Thai?
To those going to Bangkok for fun and sex this forum is supposed to be for you. I had a great time in Bangkok, left $2000 in the Thai economy, obeyed Thai law and stayed in control. Well, I gave up a little control now and then but that is just me, less than a total control freak.
But I didn't know until I found this forum that I and many other "newbies" have been an affront and downright hazard to Thailand and its culture. Thank you Z and the Thai cultural police for oppening our eyes!
Z's Thou Destroyeth Thai Culture List:
1. holding BG's hand
2. having fantasie about BG
3. letting BG spend night
4. seeing BG twice
5. enjoying trip and feeling enthusiasm
6. trying to please BG
7. getting BG's #
8. pay BG more than 500bhat
9. this list is endless but why waste the bandwidth
You see Z wants to be like James Bond, or is it a Thai man I can't remember. It must be a Thai man since Bond goes after the best chicks and to Z that would be "a waste of time." Beside, Bond doesn't troll around under bridges looking for a 200bhat scores. But on the other hand Z is a control freak like Bond, and that is why everyone else is a pathetic fool to him. Since I can't decide, and Z probably can't either, I think I'll fondly call him the THAI BOND Agent 000. All in fun Z, as usual. One last thing, how long before you and your gameboard become one, and you don't need to live in the real world anymore? Ha! ha! ha! ha!
Skinless, of course I'm still a virgin. Will be until I die, no matter how many women I have sex with :)
TonyTony, I don't know where you got the idea I go bareback -- I do not, ever. Doesn't matter how well I know someone or how long I've been with them in LOS or elsewhere. I do unprotected oral at times, but that's a whole different level of risk. I've had any number of women offer bareback, and in addition to declining, I usually talk to them about the risks of that behavior.
I exhibit plenty of other behavior that proponents of the radical 3F method will disagree with, such as repeating with women I like, eating with and talking to them, etc., but screwing unwrapped isn't one of them.
Z,
You keep referring to these women as 4th grade educated, and that they may be, but don't let that fool you into thinking they are stupid, especially when it comes to money ..... after all, they are getting your money, what ever you pay, you are still paying and they are glad to take your money, and I am not reffering to you, but on my recent trip to Thailand, I saw 95% of men acting a whole lot younger and doing dumber things than any of these girls would ... like a certain American I spoke to who was "happy" to be paying his hired ho 5,000 a night, and she had been with him for 4 nights .... no wonder, she was sticking to him like glue !!
Kobe Tai .... you have kind of generally said that all asians look alike of you say she looks like "any other asian hole" .... she is definately a ho, who sucks and fucks for money, but she is one fine looking woman, regardless of her race.
Sorry if any of this offends you in anyway, because I do like reading your thoughts and opinions, as well as all of the other posters, keep up the fine work guys ..... you have certainly helped a first timer to the LOS to have a great time, and I hope my second visit in April '03 is even better.
OzGuy.
LA Larry, don't let the recent negative critics discourage you from writing new trip reports, I quite enjoyed your detailed posts, despite some of their flaws, such as handing the astronomical sum of 3000 B to a ho who isn't worth more than 1000 B. Please keep posting.
I wouldn't pay 3000 B in BKK even for Kobe Tai, she's too old to my taste anyway.
Regarding the ladyboys rumours going round, just e-mail the pics to tapioca, who has kindly volunteered to carry out a thorough examination of the specimens, but make sure the hands and feet appear clearly in the pics, because in some extreme cases that's the only way to distinguish them.
TonydaSnake
12-08-02, 22:18
This WSG forum can be a powerful force since there are alot of good brains at work. It is like a sex think tank. Still, we are all guided by biological and freudian drives that make us ALL somewhat less logical than we think.
I though LA Larry's posts were interesting and I enjoyed the excitement he felt and tried to express. I was skeptical of the quality he described and that's why I was the first to suggest that he cough up some factual evidence (like numbers). I didn't make the possible Ladyboy connection, but that shows the power of this forum...someone else did. But let us all refrain from beating out anyone's brains on the sidewalk for no good reason.
As far as the IQ of tourist, this comes full circle back to the point I made above; that we are guided by forces other than intellect. And don't forget culture, it is no small thing. In American culture men tend to want to please women, touch them, kiss them, pamper them. Even with Ho's in Bangkok, many American men want the Ho to have a good time. This is cultural and not easy to ignore no matter how much sense Z's approach might make. When I take a woman ST and she stays the night, I might rationalize it and say "good value." But it is also feeding into my cultural "programming" to please woman and take care of a woman.
Z graps his barf bag......
Can anyone tell me the address and how to get to the "No Hands Restaurant"? Also how the restaurants works and how much tips should we leave. Can we see other customers eating, etc. I know that is has been posted in the past and I can't seem to find it in the Forum Search. I'll be headed for BKK in January but never managed to make it to that restaurant. Thanks!
Originally posted by OzGuy
I saw 95% of men acting a whole lot younger and doing dumber things than any of these girls would ... like a certain American I spoke to who was "happy" to be paying his hired ho 5,000 a night, and she had been with him for 4 nights .... no wonder, she was sticking to him like glue !!
OzGuy.
The guy who paid 5000/night was not dumb, but, IMHO, he was a first timer who didn't do research first hand when travelling to BKK. Why I say that? It's just having to do with irrational decision. Here is the point. As all of you Americans know that most escort girls in the US charged $100/hour or more. If the guy had used escort and when he travels to BKK for sex , the price is too cheap for a Thai ho to stay with him for an all night compared to what he had paid in the US if he were a first timer.
Samurai: Z's points are accurate. No Hand is on Rama 4. The best landmark is the Montien Hotel... if you exit from the Montien parking lot to Rama 4 (not the Patpong end) and turn left, the Galaxy complex is about 200 yards from the Montien and is maked by a big neon sign. A larger group is more fun, because the tables are big and round with a Chinese "lazy Susan" format. The girls are not great, but usually fun and the place is a kick to try once. I found the food very forgettable, but have not been there for 2-3 years.
File
GoGo report,
I figure I toss out a couple for discussion.
NEP:
The rave about Angle Witch in NEP is true. This place is hot with a good, exciting show and many fresh hot ladies (of course I am little bit biased here since the lady that have caused me to violently violate the 3f rule works here). Anyway I would recommend this place to anyone to stop by for at least one beer. The show where the girls come out in leather outfits and smashes chains against the floor is cool.
I also like the bar right above Angle Witch on the third floor of NEP (for some reason I can not remember the name of it now). This place is rather large and have a shower lesbo show plus many other shows as well. Hung out there with A.W. lady, her friend and the Mamsan doing some heavy Mekong drinking. Anyway suddenly while there is a porn blasting in the back some kung fu dude comes up on stage and I am like what the fuck! I told the mamasan, I really don't come to a GoGO to see some dude perform. My interest at a GoGo is strickly for tits and ass. Well, I guess only in BKK one can have a porno in the background, a HHH in your lap and a dude trying to chop a coconut with his bare hands.
Rainbow 1, Playschool - both good. Interested in other peoples opinion on the rest of the NEP GoGos.
Soi Cowboy:
Long Gun, definitely some hotties in there but I am not sure if I would go as far as some other sources claiming that this place have the best looking ladies in town (perhaps I was there on the wrong evening).
Toy Bar, ok but nothing spectacular but I could have hit the wrong night here as well.
Suzie Wong's: Ok here I was very pleasantly surprised. The night I was there they had a very cool show in which some ladies got painted in flourecent colors and they had a quite sensual show and if I am not misstaken the chicks pulled out some little string with attached flowers out of their beavers. Anyway I thought it was quite cool and it made the juices flow for Larry. It was pretty cool as I was crusin Cowboy with a HHH and she liked it too.
The topic of over paying again
This topic has been covered numerous times but I got to vent about this one. Overpaying is a serious matter that does not only fucks everything up for the rest of us but also it fucks up the Thai society. Why do you think the regualar Thais despise the BG's? A BG with no education makes more money than a highly skilled professional. Don't get me wrong here, I strongly feel that you should compensate your HHH fairly especially if she provides good service (fair is the key word here).
I know some guys say "but in the States I would have paid this and that", "I am on vacation and it doesn't matter for me". Well the whole point is that you ARE NOT in the states anymore while in BKK it is ridiculous to pay a HHH 3-5000 bath for LT or just accept the first price that the lady toss at you. What is the point of flying 24 hrs to LOS If you are going to pay the same price as in Europe or the US????? Fuck, I can screw a hooker here in Manhattan for a couple of hundred bucks and she will come to my apartment.
This is where I am getting really pissed. To the American guy who paid the lady I have been screwing a few times the last week. What the hell were you thinking giving her 10,000 Bath for one night - you are a MORON. Just to show you how stupid you are - the girl showed me your business card and laughed at you telling me what an ignorant dork you are. Someone needs to slap some sense into you very little brain!!!!
Have fun but be responsible - up to U hansum man
damn, she gave u ma card?
in my defense, she was 10,000bht worthy
tapioca
TonydaSnake
12-10-02, 09:16
LarryOne
I will never disagree with a man who is passionate about any subject so let me just say that I respect your arguments about overpaying BG's but see things differently.
I don't see the battle as between me and the big spenders but between me and the BGs. When I let people with money get into my head it is only because I have lost self confidence. On my recent trip to LOS I told myself not to pay more than 1000bhat ST. I took 25 Thai girls ST on that trip and not one hesitated a second over the price. What does this mean? Probably that I even overpayed a bit and some might have settled for less (500, 700???).
I did girls from all the popular spots, and I have numbers if anyone wants to confirm the quality I was getting. I was a mellow dude on this trip and decided once in my room to let them do as much or little as they wanted. All did intercourse, maybe a dozen made attempts at BJs and several anal. 4 or 5 stayed the night, 4 or 5 split as I busted a nut, and the rest gave me all the time I wanted but left when I didn't say anything about staying. If I wanted to be naughty and treat them all like sluts I know I could have had more fun and surely more performance but I was a 40 year old and NOT on Viagra so cut me some slack!!!!!
One girl that I probably had the most fun with I first went to disco in Novotel with her and girlfriend. I danced dirty with her and got her worked up while her girfriend landed a businessman as exciting as Bill Gates. Turns out my 1000bhat girl did everything for me and her girlfriend squeezed 4000bhat from the "suit." The moral of the story? I don't know...
No seriously, predicting the end of affordable ho-dom is like predicting the end of the world. Happens all the time but never happens! Pay what you want to pay, and don't worry about Bill Gates. Take charge of your ho and she will love you for your 1000bhat or 700bhat. Hell. I made all my girls walk back to my hotel just to keep them honest. Not because I wanted to be seen in public but because I hate taxis. Spoiled girls wouldn't have done that IMHO.
Prices: I find it interesting Freeler knows the prices of expensive go go girls. Also, people complain about 10,000 baht being too much. Hear me out on this. That is 30,000 yen, what most Japanese would pay for short time with the hotel being maybe 1,500 Thai baht more. Now I am not a great guy for Thai go go bars (or Thai temples for that matter). I find them boring. But what I have found interesting is bald, fat 50+ guys playing Mr Big, stuffing 20, 50, 100 bts down the chests of their sweeties. They are playing Mr Big on vacation. Is that their right? The European rabble who go to Pattaya on holiday would not get into many respectable places back home. Are they only little guys playing Mr Big and is lobbing out $$$ for sex just part of their vacation experience? There has to be some commerical connection between Patpong and Pattaya. Maybe these dudes paying too much is it. It is not my type of vacation but it does appeal to lotsa guys. Hey, why not get some 10k bt hos for your little ole time bbq on Friday 13th?
Dick Johnson
12-10-02, 14:11
Ha ha Tapioca, when was the last time you paid 10000baht for 1 night? ;-)
A college grad in BKK can expect to make US$200/mth the first year, I hear. So why should a ho make more? Well, maybe if she fucks good and looks good and is nice. But bottom line, it's a different economy. Many 1st timers overpay. Just the way it is.
Why not give adlez his name back? Pain to type somethin that dont make sense.
What's the big deal with Kobe Tai, she looks kinda wornout to me. I'll have a Kobe Steak instead.
Dick Johnson
12-10-02, 14:20
Was in Hollywood partying this weekend. It's kinda official now, with a sign saying, THAI TOWN, on the hollywood freeway. THAI TOWN has a bunch of restaurants, supermarkets, stores etc but definitely no action hahaha, too bad. No soapies, no Nana, not even freelancers haha.
It'd be nice if there's a go go bar in here LOL yeah right.
About Overpaying: Sometimes I really think it is out of control, you really never need to overpay in this country for the girls if you just do one thing. Put the fact in your mind that you don't need any one girl. If you go to a club and pick out only one girl and only will take her you then may overpaid. But with so many girls if the first one will not deal move on to the next one and she will. It is a simply fact the number of really good looking girls looking to be picked up for the night far out number the number of guys.
It is our market; they need us more than we need any one of them. If you don't believe this try this; on a very busy night like Friday or Saturday stand outside in the Nana Hotel parking lot at 2:00am. Watch all the girls coming out of the Nana Entertainment Complex and then look at all the girls coming out of Angels Disco inside the Nana. The total will be several hundred girls, these are all girls that haven't been bar fined or picked up. I would bet better than 98% percent of them are looking to find a guy, most will not. Many times these girls go home a lone, they only time we go back to our rooms without a girls is when we want to.
I believe we should pay a fair price but a fair price based on Thai baht. Everything in Thailand is a negotiation, if you just take the girls first price she will not have any respect for you and the service will not be as good. These girls expect you to negotiate with them. If you just remember the girls need a customer more than you need them and think with your head (the one on top) you never need to overpay for girls in Thailand.
I will be back in Thailand for the month of January and even in high season overpaying is not in the cards.
Skinless,
Surprised?
I've been to one of these VERY exclusive clubs in a five star hotel in HadYai - invitation only!
GoGo girls are cheap gutter sluts compared to what I came accross there...
Just to give you some idea: Beer B400 a small glass... WineCooler (or something similar) B1,200... A girl to talk to (don't you dare touch her!) B1,500.
Want to take a girl to your room? Please leave your creditcard at the front desk!
And that was seven years ago.
Overpaying?
Just read through these pages and you won't have to!
Dick Johnson,
You still in the L.A. area ? Maybe we can't join the party on the 13th in BKK. But we (or anyone else close enough) could hoist a few here. I'm in the Redondo Beach area.
firedick@directvinternet.com
Hollywood does have a huge Thai population. I was finishing an evening up there and spied a nice looking streetwalker, so I stop to say "Hi". "She" said hello in a voice deeper than mine ! Katoey in L.A. ! What's the world coming to ?
FD
Dick Johnson
12-11-02, 00:05
Firedick, great idea. Let's have a party or something. And we'll have a toast to the guys in BKK.
I'd even carpool to TJ just to not get jealous of the guys in BKK.
richard_johnson@angelfire.com
Question for you gentlemen:
When in a disco, say at Nana hotel or Thermae, how do you spot a working girl? When I was in BKK in June 2002, I was at Nana disco and almost asked a girl that was dancing at the table with her friends if she was available but I decided not to. For fear I might asking the wrong person and could get into problems with her and her friends. What are the safe ways to do that? Thanks in advance.
BTW: I don't dance but just watch only. That is how I am ;-)
Taodan,
Hmmmmm... difficult question. Be very careful about that, especially at Thermae, where it is quite difficult to spot the working girls !!!!! What else can I say ? But do keep trying, you might be lucky one day !
[QUOTE]Originally posted by taodan
[i]Question for you gentlemen:
When in a disco, say at Nana hotel or Thermae, how do you spot a working girl?
It can be a problem if you ask a non-pro girl the wrong question. But in Thailand it is not as bad as in other places like the United States. First things first I have been to Angels Disco many times, and almost all the girls are working, but even the non working girls have been asked before so you will not be the first guy to do it. Dont asked right out for sex; talk to the girl, if she talks with you 99% chance she is working. Then asked her a question that is not direct. Dont say go to room like you would in a GO GO Bar, try something like, it is very loud in here do you want to go outside to the Nana Lounge? If she is a non-pro she will say no and you just walk away. If you ever have a problem just make like she misunderstands what you said and walk away. At Thermaes it is almost the same, talk to the girl and then ask if she wants to leave. If a problem pops up just say you wanted to leave to eat etc. Unlike the United States if you asked the wrong question in Thailand most of the time the person just ignores the question. Also any girl going to Angels Disco or Thermaes knows the score, that said this way of handling things is for places were you would find working girls. On the other hand if you go to a place that is almost all non-pros things can be much harder.
Dick Johnson
12-11-02, 02:49
EVERY SINGLE GIRL in Nana Disco is working. Oh man, newbies.
That's not the case in some other discos.
But no decent(not to say hos are not decent, but you get the point) Thai Girl goes to NANA Disco.
ERIK,
What are you talking about saying it's a difficult question ?
I can't comment on Thermae having not been there yet, but Nana disco ??? .... more than 95% of the girls there are working, believe it ....
Taodan,
an easy way to find out without offending a girl in nana who isn't working (yeah right !!!) ... is start small talk with her, she will soon let you know what she is there for, if she doesn't, just ask her if she wants to go back to your room or hotel, you don't have to mention money up front, but do so before you hit the room to avoid any confusion between you.
OzGuy.
PosterLion
12-11-02, 03:02
To DJ and FireD,
I am all up for a Salude to BKK from TJJ. I threw in the extra J for literary reasons. LOL... :)
I just got back from BKK and CM on November 24th. I was there for 3 weeks and have yet to completely get over it. I think going to TJ to hoist some mugs and eye some TJ G's is a highly admirable prerogative! I arrive in S.D. via AA's NET Saver (read Punter's) fare of $187.50 on the 13th. What is your plan?
posterlion (AKA Mike)
PosterLion
12-11-02, 03:31
For Erik and toadan,
Dont even worry about it whatsoever! When in doubt approach the girl as if she were any other girl. This is what you do. Get off your arse and walk around. This is the very advice an Aussie gave to me on the 11th of November. I took it to heart and did same same. When you see the girl just pretend she is in your path as if you are a Buddhist monk. You must earn merit and say hello. When she does not understand a word you said and you, likewise, do not understand that she is telling you she does not understand, grab her hands and go to the dance floor! Forget the fact that you dont dance. Believe me she has forgotten because she never knew this in the first place. I did this and it got me an awesome tour guide for Chiang Mai and Loi Krathong. Theres a whole world out there man!
DJ...
There are one or two girls at Nana Disco that are as good as we. :) I wont speak for you but that might not be saying much. On the other hand, it might say more than enough.
Norok, Salude, ChalkLee?, Cheers!
posterlion
Dick Johnson
12-11-02, 04:27
You guys are telling me some girls in Nana are not workin? They are doing research for their college papers or something?
By the way, Nana is so packed nowdays. If I'm a businessman there I'd open another disco around there.
Posterlion, TJ(J) sounds fine.
i know this ain't the TJ section, but I'm already going to make a trip down there for some "supplies" so i'll def be down there sometime next week (either the 17th or the 18th). DJ, we can carpool...give me a call...we can give Poster a ride in SD or meet at AB or CC...Poster...email DJ about that....
I think the only girls NOT working in Nana are the servers there...
if they arn't working, they soon will be when u approach them with a 1,000BHT shorttime offer...
Taodan, don't ask them if they're available...just ask them if u can buy them a beer...and just start asking them their name, after 10 min. of talking (if u can talk in there, it's so loud), say "hotel?"
tapioca
Dick Johnson
12-11-02, 06:25
While having breakfast in Nana Hotel the servers came and talked to me and gave me their numbers.
Maybe they just wanna hook up..
Email from Poster says he might wanna go on the 13th...
Originally posted by Dick Johnson
EVERY SINGLE GIRL in Nana Disco is working. Oh man, newbies.
That's not the case in some other discos.
But no decent(not to say hos are not decent, but you get the point) Thai Girl goes to NANA Disco.
Are you serious that every single girl at Nana disco is working? I doubt it. The girl that I were going to ask looked very decent and hard to tell if she is a working girl. I think she was there to have fun not to look for customer. But I might be wrong.
Listen to the guys Taodan.
If she was in Nana Disco, she was not a "nice girl". She may not be a full time pro, maybe even a student. But if she was there, you need not worry about stepping on your dick. Approach.
Dudes. I got your emails. Lets take the TJ talk there, so we don't bore BKK readers.
FD
Dick Johnson
12-11-02, 12:30
Taodan, you'd better believe it!
Firedick, thanks. Nice girls can be working too ;-)
for those of you who are in town and would like a change of scenery from the go go bars, head on over to WTC. There is a beer fest going on right now, which goes on for a few more weeks. Heineken and Singha are the 2 sponsors. Pleanty of beer, food, music and local talent.
On a diferent note,(apologies if this bores some) i went today to the "Ancient city"for the first time. I know it has been mentionned in the past by others, but man, it is a great place, and only saw about 10 or 12 other tourists. A nice change from the usual tourist stuff.
See you at TLR friday 7.00
1ball
I visit the gogo bars mostly. I never talk price and the girls rarely do either. Only thing we sometimes discuss is LT or ST, usually if it's brought up it's when she says she can only stay short time, (says she has school, probably a thai husband more likely) else its just hi where u from, how long u stay, lets go room, or maybe grab a bite first and then go boom boom.
If she's so so in the sack it's ST, seeya round. If she's special she can stay if she wants. Either way I slip the cash under her handbag while she's taking her farewell shower. Never had a complaint. Just a wye and a kiss goodbye.
Sometimes pay more, sometimes less. But the discussion I was reading here before about all the negotiating for price is alien to me. It just doesn't happen.
1Ball,
Off topic: Do they still sell second hand REAL Rolex watches at the WTC? Have you seen any?
THNX!
OzGuy, Posterlion,...
OK guys, I don't blame you, let's say it is my fault if the humour in my response to Taodan did not get through, maybe because english is not my native language. I of course meant that at Thermae, 100 % of the girls are pro. I still cannot understand how Taodan could have such worries about that question. I would even enlarge the answer : whatever girl who is partying on Sukhumvit (between Soi 1 ans Soi 33) in the evening has 95% of chance to agree to make love for money. Is that clear enough now ?
Amen to that Erik.
I actually think that Toadan's question must have been a joke as well. Hell in the Sukuhvit area one can have a romp with almost anything as long as you propose a few reds.... I mean how can you even question if a girl is working at Angel's Disco.
But but wait a minute does that mean that the girl at Angle Witch (the one who bought my mom and sister Christmas gifts this weekend) really is not a daytime university student and she doesn't love me????? She said she does love me and that her love for me is deep in her heart........
Bargirl letters and travel cover
I am in the process of procuring a few letter's that farangs have written to some bargirls at Carnival. Last week they showed some letters that a punter had written to one of the girls - oh my god this was some funny shit. I myself almost fell in love with the poor guy as I read through the page long love letter. "My love is with you forever. It is unphantomable how I can feel so strongly for a woman who goes with other man for money....... You are always in my heart......blablabla" Jesus Christ, I did not even write that kind of crap to my fiance back in the states (well maybe I will if she catches me after this trip). Anyway with a little bit more pursuasion I should be able to get my hands on some soon and once I do I will post them on the board (I guess if the guys really touch my heart I will black out their names). I find it extremely funny that some dude home in Farangland is writing love letters to his bird and then a few hours after the BG has received the email she is showing it off for me and her friend.
Travel Cover
Had a discussion with a few fellow punters at TLR about two weeks ago about what is the best cover to use for the lady back home. This trip my decoy was skiing in Austria. This is a very convincing but cumbersome cover as I had to bring skiing equipment with me all the way to Thailand and the people in Thai customs looked at me like I was litterally insane as the snowboard bag came off the bagbelt. On top of that it was a major pain in the ass to haul all the equipment with me into BKK and Pattaya. Next trip my decoy is surfing in Brazil but then I am starting to run out of good excuses. And as if that was not enough now the lady want to pick up my hobbies "so that we can spend more quality time toghether" (I would love to see her reaction when she realize that all the hobbies are related to bangin' cheap pun and getting BJ's assembly line style heheheh). Anyway, I am fucked if this happen and I need some good feedback of other SOLID cover-ups (as it is my goal to continue to go for one or two mongering trips per year). I figure that I can pull one of as a business trip but the rest...
Suggestions?
Please, no moral lectures on what a dog I am whoring with finace back home. I know I am a dirty, dirty boy - always have been and I am not planning to stop now.
I am reaching out to the best of the best here - this is a nut that can only be cracked by the caliber of punters on WSG.
LarryOne,
Set up a business plan, talk to the guys here, pool in some $$$ and start business.
That way you and other partners can cum to Thailand or maybe other places very very often. Just bring lots of raincoats for your little brother.
How is that? :D
TonydaSnake
12-12-02, 05:49
mrice,
Your method of paying the ladies worked fine for you but you were not in control of the situation no matter what you think. When talking to bar or gogo girls, bargain the price and, of course start low end. Thailand is a bargaining culture so this is good practice and just makes sense.
I wish you had included some of the prices you paid the girls since that detracts from your post a bit. When the girl says "up to you" and you say nothing about money until the morning you are giving up control for no good reason. We from western cultures don't like to haggle over money, but get over it! You ain't in the West anymore.
larry,
setting up a business in thailand is hard work...u need a thai partner and u don't even get majority equity.
if u have the cash, i would suggest HK or Singapore...both are relatively close to BKK and u can get a business permit to do ANYTHING in those two countries FAST and relatively easy.
Anyways, I wouldn't be hauling around boards and shit around the world, that's just too damn heavy and u get little use. u prob don't golf, but if u do...that would be the best. u just tell her ur going golfing in Malaysia (or even Thailand if u don't think she will suspect it). If you don't golf, start picking it up...
tapioca
LarryOne,
The ski story is a good cover, however you don't need to carry your gear out of the airport. Before passing through customs you can find a storage area that is typically used by folks carry high-tariff goods back home and are stopping over in Bangkok. A few years ago I passed through Bangkok on my way to Kashmir and left my skis there for a few days. I don't think there is any charge; if I don't recall paying anything the cost must have been nominal, if anything. And a snowboard is much shorter than the 207cm skis I was carrying. Just make sure you don't get a tan on anything other than your face, or else you'll have a bit of creative explaining to do.
TonydaSnake
12-12-02, 15:19
The Big Day! Have fun everyone, and share a moment of silence for those of us who can't be there...
LarryOne, no moral lecture, just sympathy for what must be truly a chore in having to make up these stories! I believe women don't fall for these ruses but there are exceptions in which case you are lucky. Why? they know our nature, and know that with enough free time and discretion we will induldge ourselves. Are you the rugged outdoor type? That is the ultimate ruse since you can go anywhere with back pack and claim you are supporting global eco tourism and peace...
JuiceSpike
12-12-02, 15:50
larry,
very funny stuff....man, you must be kidding hauling aroung skiing gear in Thailand. I will bet you this: your fiance will find out what you are actually doing unless she is clueless of who you are.... never underestimate a woman, plus she will question you a million questions if she suspects anything about where you were and what you where doing.... if she gets her hands on your passport and see you were in Thailand and not in Austria you better come up with some convincing story about how good the snow is in Thailand....
dude, you don't need a cover, you need to be single...
juice.
TonydaSnake
12-12-02, 18:09
Yeah! Let me see your ski pictures baby, I want to see how handsome and Bondlike you are in your ski suit. Hey! aren't those palm trees in the background...and where's the snow...
[QUOTE]Originally posted by LarryOne
Travel Cover
And as if that was not enough now the lady want to pick up my hobbies "so that we can spend more quality time toghether" (I would love to see her reaction when she realize that all the hobbies are related to bangin' cheap pun and getting BJ's assembly line style heheheh). Anyway, I am fucked if this happen and I need some good feedback of other SOLID cover-ups (as it is my goal to continue to go for one or two mongering trips per year). I figure that I can pull one of as a business trip but the rest...
Larry,
Did you ever think about using big game deep-sea fishing as a cover? Most girls don't want to be offshore on a fishing boat, most boats you charter come will all tackle on them so no need to carry gear and the best fishing is in and around our travel areas. It is really easy to get some photos to bring home to add to the cover and you should be able to use this one many times. If she wants to take up fishing, tell her you are fishing for sharks that will stop most girls from going.
Originally posted by mrice
Either way I slip the cash under her handbag while she's taking her farewell shower. Never had a complaint. Just a wye and a kiss goodbye.
mrice, please complete your post and let us all know how many bahts do you usually slip under the pussy's handbag. Condidering that you never had a complaint I fear the worst, that you may be overpaying and spoiling the Thai meat market.
LarryOne, you said that in your next trip your decoy is surfing in Brazil. In that case you should actually head for Brazil, which is also one of the greatest meccas for pussy hunters, that way you can even show your partner the flight ticket or send her a postcatd: it'll increase your credibility. It is a perfect alibi because you will actually be there.
Hello all
LOONG TIME poster on the US/Massachusetts board.I'm halfway done reading the book: Private Dancer by Stephen Leather. all I can say is this guys a S U C K E R!!! giving this broad all of his money ......... that's it.
Find them,wear them,fuck them!! it's as simple as that!!
What's up Z!!
freeler,
(again off topic),
saw a couple of used Rolex downstairs near the KFC McD areas. I bought mine in a pawn shop in Reno for a good price. I live in nevada, where pawn shops are everywhere, they usually have web sites with curent inventory. If interested, give me your email, i will fire off a few URL to you, once i get back from LOS.
(u could also try ebay.)
1ball,
Once again: off topic.
THNX for the URL offer, but I prefer to buy stuff that expensive only after touching the goods!
So E-bay also is a no go, but maybe ok to do some price testing.
Reno is bit out of the way for me, BKK is just a bit closer to home!
Good to hear some Rolexes are still available at the WTC.
Unfortunately I <<HAVE>> to be in BKK next month and visiting the WTC may make my stay there worth while:)
Enjoy your stay!
Gladiator,
I pay 1000 to 1500 ST, 2000 to 2500 LT
I sort of subscribe to the 3F method, but I actually follow the 5F method;
1. Find the ho
2. Fuck the ho
3. Fantasize about having a deeply moving, everlasting, sexually emotionally and spiritually fulfilliing relationship with the ho
4. Fuck the ho again
5. Forget the ho
Caveat - if she has some distictly memorable feature like unbelievably humongous tits with gargantuan nipples that you find yourself humping the mattress thinking about, steps 3 through 5 may be repeated.
Originally posted by tonydasnake
When the girl says "up to you" and you say nothing about money until the morning...
Actually Tony they don't even say "Up to you" because the subject is never even brought up.
Member #3407
12-14-02, 23:10
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Thanks,
Danny
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AsiaTraveler2
12-15-02, 00:38
Larry;
I admire your will .. lugging equipment around Thailand. It sure makes me appreciate being single, and not having to worry about that stuff! I must say, though, woman eventually find out. It's impossible to cover this kind of stuff up. Credit card statements, airline mileage statements, perfume scent on your shirt, accidental lipstick mark on your clothing, Thai baht mixed in with our coins or bills, etc. etc. etc. Good luck!
This question may have been brought up before.Does the Skytrain run from the airport to the Nana? or do I have to take a connecting bus to take the skytrain.I've heard many stories of the touts(taxis) ripping tourists off(that wouldn't happen to me) so I'm going to try to avoid them. Any info would help as I'm planning my trip there soon
My admiration for the Bangkok scene goes out to Freeler,adleZ,and Dickhead and others I may have forgotten....Peace!
When in Bangkok the best way is the CHEAPEST WAY!
AsiaTraveler2
12-16-02, 00:50
Meatman;
The skytrain does not go from the airport to Nana. It runs up and down Suhkumvit and also has a transfer to a 2nd line that goes through Patpong and all the way to the river. There is a Nana station, which you can use to get to most of the bars on Suhkumvit, including a stop by Soi Cowboy. The 2nd line also takes you to Patpong. You'll need to take the taxi to your hotel. Plan on a hotel near one of the Skytrain stations. Makes it so much easier. Good luck and enjoy!
Guys,
Thanks for all the good contructive feedback. I will take all into account in preparing for my next trip. I especially like the deep sea fishing suggestion and next time if I am lugging all my equipment with me I will take the advise of leave the stuff at the airport. As for the passport, I got that one taken care of already. I never ever keep my passport at home always stuffed deep in the desk at work (locked). I agree that keeping the hobby secret can be a task so it may the be that the only solution is that we all have to start to preach a couple of the LarryOne's mantras:
"As long as you wear a condom there are no bodily fluids exchanged and therefore it does not qualify as cheating"
"Sex with a working lady is just satisfaction of a need/urge such as McDonalds or ice cream, no emotions are involved and thus it does not qualify as cheating"
These two arguments should also qualify to shut up feminist who are on your case for travelling to Thailand, Cuba, Rio, D.R or Costa Rica 2-5 per year (you got to be firm here and just act like it is the most natural thing in the world to do..)
The Brazil suggestion is very valid. However, I have already done quite a few monger trips to Rio. Rio is excellent for mongering, hot sexy ladies and good massage parlours such as Monte Carlo, 4x4, Centaurious etc. and not for forget Help and Mia Pataca. The reason I now prefer Thailand is that the monger scene is even more extreme and more in your face. The Thai girls are a less hardened that the Brazilian working ladies. Also no BJ bars (at least that I am aware of) and higher prices. Although I must say that the flight her from NYC is much easier. I think that if you find some nice HHH in Thailand the Jaidee can quite rewarding and exciting. Many times in Thailand it does not feel like you are actually with a lady on the clock. It is more that you hang out with some broad that you met in some bar (yeah of course not exactly). With that said both Rio and BKK (and other areas in Thailand) are both excellent choices for and I would argue that all guys into the scene should try both at least once.
Muffdriver, your suggestion was excellent and I think we will use that one for the summer excursion coming up.
"Up to U, hansum man"
JuiceSpike
12-16-02, 06:14
Larry,
you wrote: "As long as you wear a condom there are no bodily fluids exchanged and therefore it does not qualify as cheating"...."Sex with a working lady is just satisfaction of a need/urge such as McDonalds or ice cream, no emotions are involved and thus it does not qualify as cheating"
very funny stuff, really funny.... I just wonder if you really think you are going to get away with it. Unless your fiance is clueless or has her side thing and doesn't care what you do I will bet you anything that she will eventually find out about your hobby.... Your thinking about what constitute "cheating" makes no fucking sense....
By using your thinking then your girlfriend could fuck any guy as long as he is wearing a condom and she would not be cheating.... if fucking is like going to McDonalds to satify an urge then stay in the states and go to your local McDonalds and satisfy your urge instead of hauling skiing gear to Thailand....
LOL, dude you gotta be kidding, I hope you are or you are as damn as they get.... I still think that instead of coming with stupid cover ups you should marry a hooker and she will let you fuck whatever you want....
Man, no wonder some Thai hos think some of us are damn...
juice.
Meatman,
You wrote:
"Does the Skytrain run from the airport to the Nana? Or do I have to take a connecting bus to take the skytrain."
You have to take a bus to the skytrain station: Aircon 29-blue bus. Very frequent from about 5AM-11PM. The first skytrain station is Morchit, but you could stay on the bus as far as CentralStation(Siam) near AsiaHotel/MKB building. The skytrainline for Nana starts there.
TonydaSnake
12-17-02, 00:43
meatman,
If in doubt about a taxi, just look inside to make sure it has a meter, and it is working! The metered taxis have very low prices at least by american standards. For instance, I went all the way across Bangkok (maybe $20-30 in USA) for under 200 bhat. From the airport, you'll pay about $10 including tip.
Tipping is common sense; you are in another culture so if you don't want to, or don't have the time to become an expert on Thai ways and customs than tip anyone who provides a service (maids, waiters, etc.)10-15% as you would in the US. Let all the righteous out there debate over big tips or no tips, but being moderate and fair in your behavior is the least likely way to offend other cultures when they may be already stressed by large influxes of tourist.
Regarding Wildman's previous post, I guess this must be humor as why should you not go to Thailand and seek out bargains? And where did meatman say he was NOT going to tip? Or state that he travels on tip money. But let me conclude this about Wildman...whatever salary he is paid is too much, even though he MUST be a nuclear physicist or great scientific mind to reduce all these subtle societal and cultural issues to simple mathematical equation with absolutely precise answers. No grey area here says Wildman!
WOW..so much info. Thanx all. Keep it coming. Any updates on the Eden lately?? Is it what its all cracked up to be? any other places similar to the Eden?
Oh..From what I've seen regarding the Nana, If you have a room, girls would knock on your door unexpectedly. Is that true?
Hey Freeler, do the chicks hang out at parks or other places off the beaten path? any info YOU got would be heplful...:D(hehe) Im gonna memorize that city like a map!!...Got my sight on Pattaya too!!
[QUOTE]Originally posted by MEATMAN
[i]WOW..so much info. Thanx all. Keep it coming. Any updates on the Eden lately?? Is it what its all cracked up to be? any other places similar to the Eden?
Oh..From what I've seen regarding the Nana, If you have a room, girls would knock on your door unexpectedly. Is that true?
About the Eden Club yes it is all that it is cracked up to be. I will not try to tell you that all the girls are knock outs because they are not. But what some of them may lack in looks they more than make up for with performance. These girls are there for you, from the time you enter the room until you leave they have only one goal, to make you happy. The management is very pro client to the point that if you are not happy they will refund your money. Eden Club is really a special place within the city. I like Pattaya more than Bangkok and spend more time in Pattaya but always make time for a stop at Eden. Eden Club is a must due when in Thailand.
About the Nana Hotel I have never had that problem and now for about the last year they have the security desk in front of the lifts. It would be hard for a girl alone to get to your room
Bad night at the cowboy last night! The night start at 7 with the local boys closing Rawhide and Longgun for some reason. Then at 8:30, myself and a few friends were having a drink at Joe's, and a girl comes running downstair, saying fire, fire, get out and we run out and the 2nd floor was burning away. People running from all the clubs, trying to put out the fire. But it took the fire dept. 20 minutes to get to the fire and by that time, the fire was on the 3rd floor and the top floor was starting to go up too! But the end the night of business at the cowboy! There will be a new club in 3 months at the club.
Dick Johnson
12-17-02, 06:35
Actually, I will not call you a troll, wildman. Most of what you said is true.
Meatman,
"Oh..From what I've seen regarding the Nana, If you have a room, girls would knock on your door unexpectedly. Is that true?"
For that to happen, I'm affraid you will have to go the upcountry way...
Said this before: BKK will do, but Pattaya is easier for a firsttimer.
TonydaSnake
12-17-02, 07:50
Wildman,
Nice of you to share your sensitive side with us, but why don't you just come out of the closet and admit you hate tourist, of any kind I'll wager?
You think this "new colonialism" of sex tourism is destroying your beloved Thailand. But this fourum isn't about that. I, as you, dislike most other human beings, but I try to see the problem as being in myself and not humanity.
Maybe you should do the same. Thailand doesn't need you as its savior and you couldn't save it anyways...
Once I thought people were scum for cutting down trees, but than I realized I just loved trees more than most people and took it personally (you like that crude analogy?). So before you respond to anyone, try to refresh your mind as to what this forum is about before your emotions render you incoherent.
Dick Johnson
12-17-02, 11:40
More than cheap Charlies there are a lot of tourists with money though...
So anyway, what I'd like to hear about are any specific TG's in Nana or Soi Cowboy or anywhere around Sukumvit - hell ok, anywhere in BKK - who will blow me with wild abandon, suck me dry, swallow it all and lick her lips with an "mmm mmm good" expression on her face.
Just about all the ho's I bring back to the room will go down on me, although some may make a slight bit of a fuss. But that's just not good enough anymore.
Anyone want to give me a name/bar or name/likely gutter where she can be found?
I'm serious, I want her to suck me till my head caves in, and love it so much that when I get up I have to drag her around the room cause she has an unbreakable lip lock on my ding-a-long-ling-long.
Anybody?
Gentlemen, does anyone know a traditional massage parlor that offers extra sevices thats around the Amari Atrium. Sometimes the hunt is better than the catch.
a note to wildman, your message for meatman man was hilarious, i totaly agree with your point. "Life is short, play hard" is my motto.
p.s. is there any action during the day besides m/p. How about in shopping malls such as MBK
mrice,
the girls at blowjob bars are highly skilled specialists in the "suck-me-dry" routine, and many really seem to enjoy what they are doing.
Admittedly, they are not the prettiest, but some are more than presentable. And they are bar-fineable just like any other bargirl.
It has been a few years since I experienced that myself (Kangaroo in Patpong), but I am sure that fellow senior members will be able to update you on where to go.
tonydasnake,
I'll say this just once: don't presume to know anything about what I like, what my motives are, or whether I am in any way like or unlike you. Speak for yourself.
As for what this forum is about, it doesn't take much vision to see that it will quickly become about what Thailand USED to be like, before they cracked down, if people don't start acting a bit more responsible.
In any case, Jackson, not you, is the ultimate arbiter of what is and is not relevant here. Your contributions here amount to cheerleading and arm waving, and not much else. So please shut yer yap, until you have something useful to contribute.
Clear?
wildman
AsiaTraveler2
12-17-02, 22:10
Just got back from LOS. Poseidon and Emmanuelle are still top notch. Had a great time at Nana as well. Word of warning for 1st timers .. the Taxi's do not want to drive from the Nana\Sukhumvit area to the Ratchdapisek area. Too much gridlock. They are willing to go on Sundays. Had a great session with a girl from No.1 BKK Models. Very cool girl. A little shy a first, but stayed with me for 2 hours (only asked for one), and we had a great time once things got going. Her english was alittle weak, but passable. Looking forward to my next visit .. have 4 girls that I want to see again!
asiatraveler,
that bkk model agency's expensive as hell.....so was da girl cute at least?
tapioca
Hey....,as a black man what are the chances of me scoring in Bangkok,Chang Mai etc?.This is a damn good site but one thing that may need to be taken more into account is race. Most of the countries worship caucasian men but dislike the opposite. Me being a African-American negates some of this but, what's the deal?
Im not here to make ANY moral judgements, none whatsoever,but from a a practical point of view, maybe I need to interpret these country views from my point view.I got a friend who also is a member of the WSG who tells me that a blackguy in Germany or the Chec Republic would do well(or TOO well). Conversly I'm told that Thai's, Chinese,Japanese have varying degrees of disdain for dark skin men and may charge more for the usual rates mainly because of the stigma to black men...you know the stigma:). Opinions? Comments?
Meatman,
Thais tend not to like Thais who have dark skin as it resembles hard work in the fields - lower class. But this has nothing to do with you or me, only with Thais.
So, don't worry about it.
Come to Thailand and enjoy!
Meat,
Just be a nice guy, and you will have no problem. Act ghetto, and you will be out of place. See?
I REALLY don't think race has to be an issue, unless YOU make it one.
wildman
AsiaTraveler2
12-18-02, 00:19
Tapioca;
Yea, I know No.1 BKK girls is pricey, but my flight got in late. Arrived at 1:30am and by the time everything was said and done (taxi to hotel, check-in, etc) it was about 2:45 am. I know about Grace and Thermae, but I'm not really crazy about those places. After the long flight, I wasn't in the mood to stand outside of Nana, and troll through who ever was still around. The girl was a 7 looks \ 8 Body. Works a regular job and does the escort thing 2-3 times a week. We just clicked, and I had a great time. Paid 4,000 baht to the agency, though, and another 1,000 baht for the girl. The 4,000 baht is the model level. I believe there was a 2,000 baht regular option. I wanted to see what their model level looked like. Since you can get alot elsewhere for 1,000-2,500 baht, it is difficult to recommend that route. In a pinch, though, I would see her again. Nice to know that there are 24hr a day options!
We had a full 2 hours, and I had breakfast with her in the hotel coffee shop. The Poseidon girls are prettier (more makeup, etc.), but there's alot to be said for chemistry!
AsiaTraveler2
12-18-02, 00:33
Meatman;
Your point is well taken. I brought up that point of race, in the Angeles\Phillipines forum. It's an important issue, in terms of touring and enjoying any foreign country. I'm Asian, and don't have the same success rate in Angeles, as the Caucasians do. I do very well in Thailand. Not sure how you would fare, but I'll keep an eye out for that, so I can be of future assistance. Your success may vary, but I'm fairly certain you will get your share of action.
There's literally 1,000's of girls. More than you will find in any other place in the world, as far as I have experienced. I feel certain, that you will find more than enough action there. I also always see alot of men from many different parts of the world. Many Europeans & Americans (all races), Middle Easterners, Asians, etc. So I have to assume that they all have had their share of fun, or they would not be there. Many of them die hard repeat customers.
A nice side benefit, is that there are alot of other cool things to do, during down time! Good luck!
Hey All -- thanks for all the info. Making my first trip ever to LOS in about a month. Very pumped to be doing so.
I have two questions that the FAQ couldn't answer me:
1) can i cash a PERSONAL check in thailand? either at a hotel or bank?
2) will be in Phuket for a week as well, i realize it's not Bangkok, but it IS thailand. there is action to be had there, right?
Ok -- i'd really appreciate if someone can answer this for me. Thanks a ton.
AsiaTraveler2
12-18-02, 01:19
KidNova;
Not sure about checks, but there are ATM machines linked to the Cirrus system. Worked for my card, although, yes I was alittle leary about using them. I don't think personal checks will fly, though Travelers check may. Would have to be a major hotel chain though .. not one of the smaller ones.
Just thought I'd chime in on the issue of race. My buddy that I work with here in Taiwan is a 40-ish something african american guy, and about the most affable and intelligent people I know. He tells me that he does very well when visiting the Phillipines, but he had a very hard time getting a decent girl to go with him in Thailand. He even refuses to go back and meet me on one of my monthly trips, because he loves the scene in Manila. I know from my experience with several younger Thai bargirls there that they have a very negative attitude towards black guys for some reason. Lack of life experience I guess. I don't even wanna tell you what they call that little side street by the Grace hotel.
Still, I think most of the seasoned girls don't really care what color you are, as long as you are cool to them and pay up!
By the way, has anyone ever been to the big massage parlor called 'Meree" by Soi Ekamai?
BraBreaking
12-18-02, 07:34
I am an American citizen of Indian origin (migrated with my parents in 70's) in my early 30fs. Average looking and in good shape. I have been in Japan for a couple of years and know what does racial discrimination mean as far as free sex is concerned (one night stand, called nampa in Japanese, anyone can propose any girl to fuck without any problem, ethical, social or legal whatsoever). However, a section of hardcore girls are dying for blacks because of the conventional wisdom about their (Blacksf) sizes (of the third legs!). Paid sex is a big no no to foreigners (very nationalistic but not racist, in this case).
I have been to several other Asian countries. Very bad experience in Philippine (Manila), have had a few good ones in Cebu though. When I first visited Thai in 1998, I was not even allowed to enter into NEP. A guy stopped me and literally forced me out (well, I could have managed or made alternative route but had lost the motivation). Went to therame, had a nice girl but after being refused or ignored by three or more others who were constantly chasing the big white guys. No discrimination felt at Annyfs/Eden and some Beer bars out side NEP. No over pricing.
Been to Pattaya in 99. Bluntly refused in some Go Gos, even in Marine Disco. In the latter, the guy was constantly asking to buy drinks even I had one yet to be finished. I left the scene. The same was true for some Beer bars.
Well, thatfs my experience. To summarize, discrimination is very much everywhere in this world. Still I had great fun times in LOS. It was easy for me cause I learned how to cope with this. We have to admit it unless we can go back to fix our ethnicity or fix everybodyfs mentality.
Will be in LOS again at the end of March. Thanx
KidNova,
On Phuket island the action is in Kata and Karon if you're looking for bars and gogo's and in Phuket Town if you want massage parlours.
Patong has mp's, bars and gogo's and most of the sanuk seeking people go there.
Always cash tc's at banks, my best guess is that personal cheques will be very difficult to cash (at AmericanExpress perhaps?). Getting an ATM card is always good advice.
Try emailing a Thai bank on the personal cheque issue:
Bangkok bank, Thai farmers bank, Thai military bank. These banks have branches all over the country. If you get a positive reply PRINT the email and bring it with you!
Dashing Don
12-18-02, 07:41
Meatman;
I was the only customer in a bar in the EDSA complex in Manila a few weeks ago. The bar was full of girls, many really pretty. I told the mamasan that I wanted a particular girl who was up on the stage dancing, but the girl wanted to finish her dance first, indicating her lack of interest. About a half an hour later, I motioned to another girl but she too was not interested. I then went to an adjoining bar and was mobbed by bikini clad girls.
Later, when I related to my experience to my lady of the night, she told me that the girls really prefer Japanese men over caucasians like myself, because "we're built too big," and Filipinas, just like Thai girls, are small down there. You can imagine my surprise upon hearing this.
The real point is that these girls no doubt have their preferences in johns but there are so many girls that its a buyers market and you will get what you want very quickly.
Bon Voyage
[QUOTE]Originally posted by KidNova
[i]Hey All -- thanks for all the info. Making my first trip ever to LOS in about a month. Very pumped to be doing so.
1) can i cash a PERSONAL check in thailand? either at a hotel or bank?
Don't plan on cashing personal checks in Thailand it is very hard for several reasons. It is even hard if you want to deposit a US check in your own Thai savings account. Your best bet is to use travelers checks or if you have a ATM card with your checking account use that. On my last trip I used the ATM machines a couple of times. But you will pay a fee most times it is around $5.00 dollars US. Also if you use a ATM card you will only be able to take money from your main account.
I'm in Bkk for a few days. Tired of always same same bumbum. Any other younger guy around (i'm45) curious for some 3 some mfm or 4 some. Hope to hear from some of you soon....contact me at: fatdick_2003@yahoo.es
BTW...I heard rumors that you might get troubles even if your girl is 18...legal age for hookers would be 20...does anyone has knowledge about this topic?
KidNova
Personal checks take 10-15 weeks to clear around here in my experience. Best use the ATM's. Never had a problem with them tho u r limited to 20,000 Baht per day usually (hey how many TG's can u bang in one day anyway? My record is getting Mr. Happy sucked by 5 ho's in one day but then I just did it to be able to say I did it).
Meatman,
Many TG's have told me they don't like Black men. I wonder if they are just trying to pump me up and make me feel superior since I'm white. That's a strong possibility. Sometimes they mention the fact that blacks smell stronger than whites (is that true? never really smelled a black man up close, but indians always seemed to have a pretty strong smell to me even in passing on the street). Moreso though it sounds like that certain attitude that they dislike (shut the fuck up and give me some pussy, *****) that we sometimes associate with afro americans. Even tho we all think it deep down (heh heh) we tend to be polite and show respect because thats how the game is played, and hell these ho's have enough of a shitful life they deserve a little courtesy before we ream their assholes and then grab the remote to turn off their favorite thai soap and turn on the HBO. Be a man without a chip on yer shoulder and you should be able to get past any negative preconceptions.
every once in a while, a black guy would come on and ask the same question...would i be treated the same as the white man or the asian man in LOS? well, sadly...the answer is no. if a cute TG sees an asian/white guy sitting drinking and black guy sitting there and drinking, they will prob approach the non-black.
but even so, it's not like ur going to fuck EVERY women out there in bkk...as long as you get one a night, that's plenty. i'm sure there will be at least 1/20 that will fuck a black guy. u just have to try harder than us....
tapioca
ps...met up with Firedick, DJ, Progman last night in TJ...if u guys are interested, i'm posting a report in the TJ section. ah yes, i took 2 pics of TJ *****s...one bar, one street girl..any of u regulars want it, email me...
Tapioca
What's your email. Would definitely love to see the TJ chicks
mrice
How can u generalize about a nationality saying they smell. I could say the same about the white folks but it would not be correct. Individuals can vary but you can't generalize without being a racist and hypocrite.
Meatman
Oriental guys tend to have a small d***. That's what I have heard from the guys and the girls. So the TG's seem to be afraid. On the other hand, I have seen black men having a TG hanging on to them quite a few times in BKK. Just be pleasant, dress neat and classy. You will have no trouble.
brabreaker
I don't know about you, but I have been to LOS over 10 times in the last three years. I am in my late 40's with a beer belly but never had any problem.
Bottom line, a good attitude and classiness will get you girls anywhere. And always keep your cool.
Happy holidays to all of you.
duniawala
Are you indian or black?
You say that recognizing a well known physical trait about people is racist? what a bunch of crap. Ya, you could say that white people smell and ya it wouldn't be true. But that's because except for the odd stinkball white people do not smell.
And I suppose generalizing about orientals having small wieners doesn't qualify as racist, only my comments about smell do?
What a huge laugh that you end up calling me a hypocrite. Do you know the definition of the word? Why don't you look up those big words in the dictionary before using them.
Hypocrite refers to someone having a double standard about something. For example - like when they call someone a racist for generalizing about the physical traits of a group of people, and then in the next breath throw out a generalization about orientals having small peckers.
Member #1005
12-18-02, 23:01
Meatman:-
On the subject of race and black men I would like to add my two cents worth.I am black and know where youre coming from on this. I have been visiting Thailand since 1987, amongst other countries in the world including much of Asia, Eastern Europe, Brazil.
I would say that race is not a factor that you should worry about, being an American (I am not but European) I would disregard many of these comments about girls saying they only prefer Caucasian men or Asian. Just like some black guys like J Lo big booties, some girls have their preferences. What it boils down to is how you conduct yourself, dress and treat the girl as long as you have a positive attitude about yourself; are you going there for sex or a wife? I have some professional Thai friends who work in banking in Bangkok when they have taken me out to places they tell me all the time that the places I go to they never allow farangs (white foreigners), so I am special. The thing about the clubs or massage parlours that are favored by Japanese, it not that the girls dislike other races only that Japanese guys have this hang up about doing girls who have been done by Gajin (dirty foreigners/barbarians etc black or white). If the girl did other races the Japanese men would shun her and to be fair its good business for these girls as they get paid way over the odds of what others pay, usually twice the rate around 4000 Baht starting. Generally you will find that Japanese, Koreans Thais, German, Australians have there own clubs and many tend to prefer their own cliental to frequent these establishments, that's my experience. But, whilst I have never consciously gone around smelling my fellow tourist I can only say the people I noticed whove smelt, sometimes when your flying home in the next seat, were back packers, usually of Thai strength weed. The only thing I would say is some of the Thai girls have hang up about Arabs, I dont know why but I have heard a whole host of reasons, but lets not get into that.
Remember that for the girls its a job, if they dont want to go with you, there will be ten prettier, sexier girls that will, seek and you will find. Don not underestimate the intelligence of the bar girls, they tend to prefer older men, not younger guys because they will pay more money and want less sex. Plus, the tend to like the guys who are drunkards, they types who pay way over the odds and fall asleep after ten minutes. Lets be honest here they are only here for the money not the sex. OK some girls are looking for a relationship or a rich foreigner to take them away to a new life, all bar girls know the story about the bar girl who married a handsome prince, (its true) actually he was a German, I saw him on television in Germany and my German is not too good so I am not sure if he was a real prince but he was rich.
One thing I would ask you and all Americans to do (and at the risk of upsetting many Americans here) is please, do not get drunk in the bars and when negotiating with the girls, take out your wallet, open it up to the girl and ask her to take out her fee. I have seen this several times in bars, and sadly its always Americans doing it, although I doubt even Bill Gates would do this. Lets keep it real with the over paying and not ruin the scene for our fellow hobbyist and the Thais who curse us under their breath, for putting their prices up !! Plus Thais tend to respect someone who can bargain a good deal, so please bargin!!
But Meatman I would enjoy yourself as I am sure you will have a good time, Please do us all a favour and write up a field report of your experiences.
Juniour,
I am with you regarding about get drunk in the bars. When I was in BKK in June 2002, I saw an American who was drunk and his monies were stolen by bar girls. I saw the incident but decided to keep my mouth shut. I don't stick my nose in others' business especially in the bars and for my safety too.
Originally posted by Juniour
One thing I would ask you and all Americans to do (and at the risk of upsetting many Americans here) is please, do not get drunk in the bars.
Pertaining to race in Bangkok, depending on your age (i'm 25) it is VERY easy to get laid more so being black and add to that being a black american, You can get even get Pro(indie) pussy for free. When I go they treat me like P diddy, or whichever rapper they are exposed to at the time of my(your visit), because of this, if you are attractive they will choose you over your caucasion counterpart in a hearbeat, I have seen it happen many times, but that is with civilians. When it comes to the *****s, that is when we fall from grace back to being a regular farang, and more so management are the one who have embedded into the girls that they should run down a white guy instead of a black guy and after awhile the girls start to believe it. As for the matter of body odor?!?! you have to be kidding me? I do not smell my black friends don't smell but after playing basketball with some white friends of mine.....Also as for the attitude of "bend over *****" that is usually the after affect of an altercation with management because of our race, so we usually take it out on their girls. Also the fact that expats(usually white guys) who open establishments in bangkok or get to know the management bring over their ignorant views to this country.
Seriously can a peasant from a home without indoor plumbing tell me I smell, MOST of the thai people I met are darker than I am(I'm about the same complexion as vin diesel) How dare they make a fool out of themselves by casting judgement about my skincolor. To answer you darkmeat, You can get pro action, but why not be adored by the prettier and cleaner non pros, plus they have money and won't use you for an atm, this also holds very true for the hardest mongering country of them all JAPAN, they love our culture and are willing to be around you just to have a glimpse of it.
Tapioca,
I would be very interested in having a look at those pics you took in TJ .... what is your email address ??
Racism is a live and well within virtually all cultures, there will always be a reason in some persons mind to dislike differences of one kind or another in other people ...... but thats getting off the topic for this discussion board, regardless of your race or your colour, if you go to Thailand with the intention of spending some money on a Thai hooker .... you will find them, a lot of them !!!
One more thing there are a couple of postings about dick size of people .... lol .... damn this board slips sometimes, but the medical facts are that on average Asiatic men have an "average" of around 12cms (4.5 In), and thats true ..... Caucasians average 15 cms (5.5 - 6 In) and people of African decent average 16 cms (6 In) ..... these are all documented in medical journals, but notice the word "average" .... how do you find the average ?? .... you add the total length of dicks measured, then divide by the amount of guys who took part in the survey, so naturally though some were bigger, some were smaller .... but again, lets return to the real reason of this board ..... experience and info on the LOS !
Keep it up guys .....
OzGuy.
MY..did I open a topic or what! it's all interesting but, the only factor is to see Bangkok or any other city in Thailand yourself and experience.Make your own judgements.good or bad.
Racism sucks!........., it'll eat you alive!!
Japan is next on my list!
MM
Sez Vampyr:
"When I go they treat me like P diddy, or whichever rapper they are exposed to at the time of my(your visit), because of this, if you are attractive they will choose you over your caucasion counterpart in a hearbeat,..."
So, let's see...racism is OK, as long as it works in YOUR favor?
Someone explain this to me...
wildman
Originally posted by Vampyr
When it comes to the *****s, that is when we fall from grace back to being a regular farang,
Hmm, I guess the *****s have better taste.
Originally posted by Vampyr
and more so management are the one who have embedded into the girls that they should run down a white guy instead of a black guy
Ya it's definitely a conspiracy
Originally posted by Vampyr
Also as for the attitude of "bend over *****" that is usually the after affect of an altercation with management because of our race, so we usually take it out on their girls.
And hey, using that crap as an excuse to whale on an unsuspecting TG is certainly reasonable and mature. NOT.
Originally posted by Vampyr
Also the fact that expats(usually white guys) who open establishments in bangkok or get to know the management bring over their ignorant views to this country.
Oh boy, I guess the Zionist Occupied Government is really installed here in Thailand as well as in the USA, huh?
Originally posted by Vampyr
Seriously can a peasant from a home without indoor plumbing tell me I smell
Uh...yes. If it's true. Thais are the cleanest people I've ever met, and asians generally have little or no body odor, certainly much less than even white people. If they say that a certain group of people smell strong I would believe them.
TonydaSnake
12-19-02, 16:32
right or wrong, light or "white" skin is the most universally accepted skin color, just as English is the most universally accepted language. You may hate this if you speak French or have a darker skin tone, but nothing is going to change this "reality" in 2002, 2003...
now, anybody getting laid out there!
not tonite tony
But then I work in Khon Kaen
whats your excuse
Vampyr wrote
"When I go they treat me like P diddy, or whichever rapper they are exposed to at the time of my(your visit), because of this, if you are attractive they will choose you over your caucasion counterpart in a hearbeat,..."
I'm not sure, but this seems like complete nonsense.
Have any of you guys who actually live in Thailand ever once heard of a "civilian" ( I guess that means non-bargirl?) Thai girl dating or even going out with a black guy? I've been to Thailand dozens of times now and spent most of my time away from the go-go scene, but I've never seen it yet. Has anyone?
I'm headed back to Bangkok at 7 a.m. tomorrow morning, but I'm not gonna stray from my regular girl unless something unexpected happens
So, let's see...racism is OK, as long as it works in YOUR favor?
Haha thats the dumbest shit I have heard in a while wildman..
How come thai's wanting to hang around me because of my background rascist?!?!?
as for the poster who has never seen any thai women with black men, maybe you spend too much time around the ***** establishments(maybe your to old, fat or ugly to get any play in the mainstream clubs), There aren't as many black tourists as white in Bangkok, so obviously you wouldn't see thai girls hanging all over black guys.
As for the comment about acting rude to a girl after receiving a hard time from Management, I have never acted this way but, I have spoken to people who have(most of them were white, it has more to do with age(maturity) than race).
Also just cuz they perceive me as rapper doesn't mean I act or specifically dress like one( they are influenced by what they see on TV or hear in music(just like everyone els around the world) they notice my age, my occupation(DJ), my race and THEY come to a conclusion. I have good manners and dress very well so I don't run into trouble. I have travelled the world so I treat everyone with the same high standard of respect.
Mrrice, I don't know what shithole you crawled out of but to say that a race of people smell is totally untrue and a sign of your ignorance. maybe one day you will be enlightened.
"If one person tells me something about a whole race of people I believe them" HOW FUCKING STUPID ARE YOU!?!!?
As for the rest of you with the snide comments pertaining to race, it is amazing how much you expose your shortcomings by the comments made after and about my post. But I know who you are I see you at nana's stumbling around drunk, with your cellulite ridden belly poking out of your cheap hawaiian shirt, pawing every girl in sight and saying stupid shit to them.
When I go to Q bar(you old farts wouldn't even be allowed to stand on the line), Lava, or for some salsa at senhor rico, I always have a good time. to each his own I guess. my point was to tell Darkmeat, if he was apprehensive about coming to bangkok because of issues regarding *****s, that he would still be welcomed by the a good amount of regular women.
vampyr, what do u spin?
oh, and u might be an exception if u say u look as white as van disel. but if u walk down soi 3 towards grace, u would see where all da dark brothas are at. after Nana closes, and all the TG's start walking to the Grace, u can see how they NEVER stop to talk to any of them and just keep on walkin'.
as I said, u only need 1 (or 2) TG's to have fun a night and u'll prob find them...just have to try harder than the rest of us.
Tapioca > 4.5 inches
damn, if that's average, somebody's walking around with 1 inches then...
tapioca
tapioca1688@hotmail.com
TonydaSnake
12-19-02, 20:36
mrice,
Unfortunately, I live and currently am in Northern VA, so if you want to read about this sex hobbyist's rather pathetic sexventures than you'll have to check out that forum.
But thanks to vampyr, on my next visit to Thailand I now know how to score with the higher class Thai girls-Hip Hop and Rap my way into those pants...Yo!
TonydaSnake
12-19-02, 21:08
No one here doubts anyone can go to Bangkok, pay 1000+ bhat and get laid. Any claims beyond that get extra scrutiny-everyone remember the man having porn star experiences with the top 1% of Thai BG's. He disappeared rather than verify with pictures.
Vampyr, you can shut everyone up by posting some pics of your high quality freebies. Otherwise, you will be doubted and correctly so since no one likes BSers on this forum.
BS is a strong suit of your generation. As one college administrator recently said --no previous generation has ever come to college thinking more of itself, and being more woefully prepared.
Jackson doesn't post new pics...he said something about it not helping the forum, i have pics, it's wether jackson will post em.
Tapioca,
I spin alot of Drum n Bass, house, uk garage as of late, but I'm still hired for mostly Hip Hop. Its a cool way to make a living. Promoters fly me to places I would've otherwise gladly paid for myself and they pay me on top of the free ticket and hotel.
AsiaTraveler2
12-19-02, 23:15
Guy's;
Has anyone found a way around the traffic problem in LOS. I am referring mainly to the problem of getting from the Nana\Sukhumvit area to Ratchadapisek area for the huge Massage complexes (Poseidon & Emmanuelle). Now with the SkyTrain, Sukhumvit and Patpong is a breeze, but I do like the Super Complexes alot, and just can't get any taxi drivers to go there. I guess they are probably saving me also, since I would probably spend alot of valuable time in grid lock.
I guess, I could split my time in LOS in half (half in Ratchadapisek and half in the Nana area). If I do, is there much else to do on Ratchadapisek? I have seen a few bars across the street from Poseidon, but never ventured in. I spent most of my previous trips in the Nana and Patpong area, and only just started visiting the Large Soapies during my last two stays. Any info would be appreciated.
Jeez...
Does racism exist ? It certainly seems alive and well here. Bigots on both sides.
Meatman,
I suggest that if you do find it difficult in the LOS, give the Philippines a try. Especially Angeles City. Brothers are not only accepted, but prefered by many.
FD
To all a very merry christmas , hanukah et al.
I am a peaceful guy who believes in making love not war. Having said that, I regret stirring up a hornest nest saying mrice is a racist (which may be true based on his comments). Well at least I took it that way. But then again he may have spoken out in the heat of the moment just like Trent Lott.
So for now let it rest. We all know who we are in our hearts.
So back to our innermost desires. Sex, sex sex.
I have one question for you regulars who go to the land of honey. Is Eden worth it. Just say yes or no.
I will be in BKK on the 6th/7th of Jan and then again on 29-31 of Jan. I would like to meet anyone from this forum who will be there during that time at the Living Room. Drinks are on me but not TGs. I know I missed the Friday the 13th but what the heck: January might be better.
Love to all
Duniawala
PS: I saw the Ugly American in Puerto Vallarta couple of years back. Stone drunk at 10 am and couldn't even walk. Puked all over downtown. Makes me feel ashamed that I am a part of it. (i.e. being an American)
asiatraveler,
try the counter bars 1,2, and 3..next to dance fever...
vampyr,
do u spin any of that in bkk? i havn't found a place that has d&b or house in bkk...u know of any? actually, i would prefer house (prog or deep house)...if u know of any in BKK, would appreciate da info...oh, and i wouldn't call the bottom floor of MOS prog house...it seems very techy to me...
tks,
tapioca
HI guys,
In a vein attempt to bring the forum back on track and off a topic that could go on for millions more pages with no real answers or information about where the sex is can someone assist me?
I've heard of a new bar called Number One Club in suk soi 1, there were very vague posts on an alternative forum, some claiming it is a high class brothel and bar, some simply a better class blow job bar.
Has anyone been? or even heard anything about it?
Cheers
Meaty, (not to be confused with Meatman)
TonydaSnake
12-20-02, 09:03
Duniawala,
I think the answer to your questions about BFs and Edens have a common denominator...money, and how much of it you have.
Edens, IMHO not worth the money UNLESS you have never had a kinky sex experience before. It is the shortest route and pretty much a sure thing if you are a bit shy and maybe want to try a twosome, or a number of other mildly kinky things.
BFs- why not pay one now and then to help support the bars that bring us the best girls? But try cutting your own deals with the ladies as well...this is more fun anyways. I am no fan of the street ladies who stand around on Sukhumvit after 2:00. Just listen to a couple of their stories! But meeting girls on the street any time of the day and any place is one of the things I most enjoy about Bangkok!
Don't feel bad about the whole racism tangent. I think it is humorous listening to everybody call each other names and at the same time try to come off as priest like. Meanwhile priest are out there abusing choirboys. We all have bigotry and racism in us; as individuals and as countries. But when all is said and done, where do most people want to immigrate? To the USA, and Western European countries...Hmmmmm
I only feel bad for Meatman who asked a completely legit question and opened Pandora's Box! Hope to hear you on this forum again Meatman!
Meatman, your question is absolutely legitimate, and I think some of the posters here have been very good about giving you good advice in the midst of the usual blather. I was sitting in a bar last night here in Chiang Mai talking with a bar girl about her experiences. She related to me that someone who she described as a really nice guy from India wanted to barfine her, was willing to pay her 3000baht, and she said she simply couldn't do it -- too black, she said. She said the same thing about several guys who walked by some Indian, some African American, some just very dark Thais. When I mentioned to her that my first girlfriend had been African-American she just shrugged and said, well, farang crazy.
This is someone, by the way, who thinks she herself is unattractive because she is too "black" and I relate this not at all to say that every woman has this attitude, because they do not, but to say that there's no question that skin color is a thread that runs through this society -- if you're Thai and darker you're seen as coming from the fields, from being poor and lower-class, and all that matters a ton in Thai society. So it's there, it exists, and given that bar girls are considered the absolute dregs of Thai society, turning down those darker than even themselves may well give them the feeling of some status as well as reflect a true feeling prevalent in Thailand.
That said, all but one of the brothers who walked by the bar while I was talking with this girl had a very pretty TG on their arm, so it's decidedly not an either/or scenario. As someone mentioned, there are thousands of women here, and they are all trying to make a living. Each of them has their own line in the sand. Some are certainly willing to go with the old, the fat, the obnoxious, the completely drunk and stupid, and the same is true for skin color. If you come you'll find women who will be eager to go with you, and those who are not. Depends on your point of view -- if the latter group make you more unhappy than the first group make you happy, then you'll have a problem. If you're happy to have to ones who are willing, and can write off the ones who won't, you'll have a great time.
Originally posted by Vampyr
As for the comment about acting rude to a girl after receiving a hard time from Management, I have never acted this way but, I have spoken to people who have(most of them were white, it has more to do with age(maturity) than race).
Well what you actually said earlier is "that is usually the after affect of an altercation with management because of our race" - so now you're saying that when you said "your race" you meant the white race?
Originally posted by Vampyr
Mrrice, I don't know what shithole you crawled out of but to say that a race of people smell is totally untrue and a sign of your ignorance. maybe one day you will be enlightened.
"If one person tells me something about a whole race of people I believe them" HOW FUCKING STUPID ARE YOU!?!!?
Well it's a lot more than 1 bar girl telling me that, it's at least 15 or 20. And I don't believe something just cause someone says it either - not by a long shot. My personal experience is that whenever I come in close contact with someone from india or the middle east (arab) I more often than not notice a strong and rather unpleasant body odor. Not so when I am near european/american/asian people. Think that is racist? Stupid? No - just plain old smell, that's all. To make generalizations about the behavior or attitude or motives of a whole group of people may be unfair. But calling attention to a hereditary physical trait? That's just simple observation. Maybe people who smell bad get offended when I say this. Sorry - it's just the truth.
and by the way vampyr, the name is mrice, not mrrice.
How fucking stupid are you?
Gentlemen,
I know how compelling it is to respond when you feel you've been wronged/insulted. It's not easy to let it go. But lets try.
Tony,
Once you go choirboy you never go ba... or forget it ! :)
Meaty,
"Vein attempt" ? Was that intentional or a typo ? Either way, a good one.
FD
Wow, quite a fray going on here. Race, body odor, insults, typos and a screw-you-guys-I'm-going-home post. Nothing attracts a crowd better than a crowd. My 2 bahts worth on a topic near and dear to me: B.O.
I exude the scent of rancid milk. In a high heat, high humidity climate I reek of Blue Stilton. My sweat has curds. Think of a chunk of Munster on an over-heating engine block. Fancy a whiff? I am what I eat. Pity those Thai Angels who bed down with me. Been told my cum can be used to butter popcorn. In korea, where I live, the perfume of garlic is strong enough to bring tears to my eyes. Roger a bird at night and ventilate in the morning.
Anyway, an unhelpful post having nothing to do with sex, well deserving a yellow card. Apologies all around. Now I shall return to my bowl of beans.
BraBreaking
12-21-02, 11:09
mrice
INDIAN people smell bad, but not the ASIAN. When did that happen, I mean a new continent? I might also be a stupid(?), but what I remember from my pry education that India is part of ASIA.
I am sorry if you wanted to preach that ASEAN (Association of South East Asian Nations) people do not smell.
Writing 'mrrice' instead of mrice is really a stupid. Note taken!
Has anyone recenly used the services of Ms. Annie ( not massage parlour)? She provides you students in uniform or secretaries in uniform whatever you might desire. Used her once and that was pretty good..even if quite expensive at 4000 bath for ST. But last time she called up reception at hotel ( they informed) me and she wanted to get all kind of info about me so I stoped al contacts. Can anyone post his experience with her? I dont want to make any promotion for her for the time and thats why I dont want to post her phonenr.
Originally posted by wildman
...we have too many people talking the talk...and too few walking the walk.
Well first, my apologies for any offense. I sometimes get carried away but should know better than to post in anger over a perceived insult, (being called a racist and a hypocrite) although in truth part of my motivation in those engagements is just to see what kind of reaction I can stir up. Vampyr certainly took the bait and launched a retaliatory strike with all available warheads. Bravo. But seriously, I wish the best to all here in the LOS, if you can get what your heart desires then I applaud you, it's not easy to do in any corner of the world.
Hey wildman, really - how hard is it to walk the walk around here? You can't hardly go 10 meters without getting your dick grabbed by a hot young receptacle.
hutsori - no yellow card mate - that one went right in the back of the net. BTW - was that true? Are you from... Oh, never mind.
Anyone have some recent musings about the blow-job bars? I've never been, but plan to go tonite. Seems like the Kangaroo bar in Patpong has been described as the sleaziest of them, so I'll probably start there and try to get the world's sleaziest blow job.
And then promptly fall in love with the sleazebag who gave it to me. Hey, it's my birthright as a farang.
I'm working in Issan right now, so every weekend I have to come all the way back to BKK if I want full body immersion in professional pussy.
Ain't workin for a living a b_i_t_c_h ? (I'm talking about me, not the girls.)
Somebody posted "Has anyone found a way around the traffic problem in LOS?"
I would recommend the canal boats if you want to avoid Bangkok traffic. I take them every time I'm here, and you can get around pretty quickly depending on where you wanna go. The bad part is that you kinda have to know where you're getting off because it's almost impossible to see up ahead.
Also Vampyr wrote
"as for the poster who has never seen any thai women with black men, maybe you spend too much time around the ***** establishments(maybe your to old, fat or ugly to get any play in the mainstream clubs)"
That was me who wrote that, and if you read my post I wrote that I HAVE NOT spent much time around the gogo scene.
Anyway, I just wrote that I personally have never seen or even heard of a "normal" Thai girl out going with a Black guy. Also, I honestly don't think most young Thai girls would even recognize the latest rap stars.
I'm in Thailand now, and I hooked up with a friend last night who's job is to prepare students to take college entry exams. He's lived in Bangkok four years now, and when I asked him about it he said he'd never seen it either. He said even if the girl liked the guy, her family would probably freak out on the situation. Don't feel too bad though, he said that's usually the case with a caucasion guy also.
I live in Asia also, and it's just a plain fact that just about every girl over here wishes her skin was lighter. Just watch the commercials on TV, or take a trip to any drug store and look at the skin care products. Also, the girls use umbrellas when they go outside to avoid any contact with the sun.
Sorry if I upset you, I wasn't trying to. That's all I'm gonna post about that tired subject. Good luck to everyone regardless.
PosterLion
12-21-02, 19:57
Notes from Patpong, a review of Kangaroo and Star of Light (or is it Night).
November 9th 2002.
I decided to do something price fix and headed to Patpong for Saturday night. I found a good locater map of Patpong and made my way to the Kangaroo bar via the SkyTrain and walking. I was immediately approached by Nut. She convinces me to go to the room with her and her friend for 500B each. If you like having a blow job, these bars are the ticket. I am the type that might find this kind of thing a little too addictive. I have read much comment on this from many different angles and all I can say is this, it is what it is. I spoke with Nut for about an hour afterwards while drinking some beers. She was 28 and could speak English fairly well. I got her mobile number just in case. By this time there were visions of astral orgasms dancing in my head. As it turned out, I never called her.
I decided I liked the price fix menu and chose to have more of the same for dessert. I left the Kangaroo and headed to the Star of Light for an encore. I stopped into the Kings Castle II for a diversion along the way. I had never been to a Go Go in Patpong and I thought it would be a good warm-up, kind of like a cordial before the next course. I chatted up a couple of Go Go gals and almost got convinced to give it up for one of them. But I held to the price fix format and departed. As soon as I walked out the door I stopped and said, shit! I knew I wasnt going to stay so why the hell didnt I throw a ridiculously low price at a Go Go just for the experience? Times up, thanks for playing!
I walked into the Star of Light and a squirmy little thing twisted onto me and was unshakable. I am sure she was not beautiful but she sure was cute! I could not get away and was in the back room with her before I finished half my beer. That girl was amazing. The first time was over after much control and holding out. She sat there smiling at me from behind yours truly and yours truly was still alive. After a minute or so, I said one more and had one more. The guy behind the bar says 1080b for two times and one beer. It was a quick add. 1000B(kangaroo) + 1080B(star of light) = 2,080b. Tack on about 600B or so for beers and round to the nearest 1000 baht. I'd say my Saturday cost me about 3000B in total.
I went to the McDonalds and bought a Coke and then went across the main drag and found a place to sit and lit up a smoke. A man came by and asked me if I needed anything, boy or girl. I said, No, I hap. I finished the cigarette and went cab hunting. The first two said no meter and the third said 100b. I jumped in and said, Soi see Sukhumvit.
Mrice,
"I'm working in Issan right now, so every weekend I have to come all the way back to BKK if I want full body immersion in professional pussy."
Again, why is working in Isaan, KK, a problem when it gets to getting girls? If you REALLY can't find any in KK, no need to go as far as BKK: Korat has all the essentials.
I apologize if I am off topic as most people on this board are and I am glad of all the reports and information that could make my trip a success. I have been reading this board for a very long time and I believe this entitles me to express my opinion. I am not as, fortunate as, most people posting here, to travel as often to such interesting places and I crave for information that allow me to plan and dream of my trip that may or may not ever happen.
I assume that looking into the Bangkok topic I would find information on Bangkok. Unfortunately there is information diluted and hidden in millions of useless words. After reading over pages of personal blabbing, name calling and display of writing skills I may come up with a little bit of knowledge here and there. Most of what is writing is of little interest to me and I believe to most people that go to the topic for that particular information ...BANGKOK !! (Bangkok is just for example !!! Other areas are similar)
There are other places on this board for that kind of writing (maybe in the general area) and no need to seek attention in a dedicated topic sections. Reports and information is what belongs on this tread. Of course this is my opinion. It is usually the same people that give so much air to the trumpet with little music. Nothing personal on this, just a bit of frustration. This is not intended to generate any flames on the board and I will not reply to any. Just something to THINK about !!! This board is for all to exchange information not for a few REGULAR swamping it with their random at times, sensless writing with a lot of personal exchanges. Am I saying something wrong ? If interested in commenting , we should continue in the general section. Thanks Jackson for keeping this board alive and going, I appreciate it and hope to be able to contribute with something more appropriate soon.
Yogo 10
[blue]Yogo10,
I totally agree with your observations.
Jackson[blue]
AsiaTraveler2
12-23-02, 00:53
Dana;
Appreciate the reply, but my question was a bit more specific. How to get between the Nana area and Ratchadapisek (Home of the Major Soapies). I like both areas for different reasons, and the cab drivers refuse to go to Ratchadapisek during the week. I can only get them to go on Sundays .. no traffic that day. I don't really want to be in Grid lock for hours either, so I don't blame them. I'm assuming it takes over an hour during the week, but I'm not sure. Only took me 15 minutes on Sunday, so not sure how bad it is during the week. Do they need to be pursuaded with a large tip? They need a skytrain line! I thought about splitting time between the two areas, but not sure what else is on Ratchadapisek, to make it worthwhile to spend 3 or 4 days there. I only saw a few bars.
Hey poster hows the quality of the girls at these places..
How long do they give BJ for..
Do they do Bare back ... and do they kiss if you take 2 at the same time...
Originally posted by posterlion
Notes from Patpong, a review of Kangaroo and Star of Light (or is it Night).
November 9th 2002.
I decided to do something price fix and headed to Patpong for Saturday night. I found a good locater map of Patpong and made my way to the Kangaroo bar via the SkyTrain and walking. I was immediately approached by Nut. She convinces me to go to the room with her and her friend for 500B each. If you like having a blow job, these bars are the ticket. I am the type that might find this kind of thing a little too addictive. I have read much comment on this from many different angles and all I can say is this, it is what it is. I spoke with Nut for about an hour afterwards while drinking some beers. She was 28 and could speak English fairly well. I got her mobile number just in case. By this time there were visions of astral orgasms dancing in my head. As it turned out, I never called her.
I decided I liked the price fix menu and chose to have more of the same for dessert. I left the Kangaroo and headed to the Star of Light for an encore. I stopped into the Kings Castle II for a diversion along the way. I had never been to a Go Go in Patpong and I thought it would be a good warm-up, kind of like a cordial before the next course. I chatted up a couple of Go Go gals and almost got convinced to give it up for one of them. But I held to the price fix format and departed. As soon as I walked out the door I stopped and said, shit! I knew I wasnt going to stay so why the hell didnt I throw a ridiculously low price at a Go Go just for the experience? Times up, thanks for playing!
I walked into the Star of Light and a squirmy little thing twisted onto me and was unshakable. I am sure she was not beautiful but she sure was cute! I could not get away and was in the back room with her before I finished half my beer. That girl was amazing. The first time was over after much control and holding out. She sat there smiling at me from behind yours truly and yours truly was still alive. After a minute or so, I said one more and had one more. The guy behind the bar says 1080b for two times and one beer. It was a quick add. 1000B(kangaroo) + 1080B(star of light) = 2,080b. Tack on about 600B or so for beers and round to the nearest 1000 baht. I'd say my Saturday cost me about 3000B in total.
I went to the McDonalds and bought a Coke and then went across the main drag and found a place to sit and lit up a smoke. A man came by and asked me if I needed anything, boy or girl. I said, No, I hap. I finished the cigarette and went cab hunting. The first two said no meter and the third said 100b. I jumped in and said, Soi see Sukhumvit.
Hi brabreaking
Hey i am going to be there in Mid March ...
Can you tell me the places I should visit
I will be there 1ce in Feb and 1ce in March for 3 days at a time..
I am sorry to hear the discrimination but you need to dress and act like a tourist...
Originally posted by brabreaking
I am an American citizen of Indian origin (migrated with my parents in 70's) in my early 30fs. Average looking and in good shape. I have been in Japan for a couple of years and know what does racial discrimination mean as far as free sex is concerned (one night stand, called nampa in Japanese, anyone can propose any girl to fuck without any problem, ethical, social or legal whatsoever). However, a section of hardcore girls are dying for blacks because of the conventional wisdom about their (Blacksf) sizes (of the third legs!). Paid sex is a big no no to foreigners (very nationalistic but not racist, in this case).
I have been to several other Asian countries. Very bad experience in Philippine (Manila), have had a few good ones in Cebu though. When I first visited Thai in 1998, I was not even allowed to enter into NEP. A guy stopped me and literally forced me out (well, I could have managed or made alternative route but had lost the motivation). Went to therame, had a nice girl but after being refused or ignored by three or more others who were constantly chasing the big white guys. No discrimination felt at Annyfs/Eden and some Beer bars out side NEP. No over pricing.
Been to Pattaya in 99. Bluntly refused in some Go Gos, even in Marine Disco. In the latter, the guy was constantly asking to buy drinks even I had one yet to be finished. I left the scene. The same was true for some Beer bars.
Well, thatfs my experience. To summarize, discrimination is very much everywhere in this world. Still I had great fun times in LOS. It was easy for me cause I learned how to cope with this. We have to admit it unless we can go back to fix our ethnicity or fix everybodyfs mentality.
Will be in LOS again at the end of March. Thanx
Hello everyone! I am back to the real world again and it sucks! I wish I was still in Fanasty Land, but dreams cannot last forever!
A quick report on things in Thailand.
Patpong is Patpong, the volume of people is down compare to past years in Decembers and the clubs are rather slow. The other big thing is the number of girls working in the clubs is down. I am one that does not like Patpong, but usual in December it is hard to find a chair in the clubs in Patpong at 10 p.m., but not this year. The number of girls, I would say is down by 30% to 40% in the clubs. This year it is dead. Even in the night market area the people are down. You can swing good deals this year in the night market.
Pattaya as much as I do not like Pattaya, it was pretty busy with people. There are a lot of people in Pattaya and the clubs were operating business as usually. I was there for two days of business, and two nights of play and it was rocking at night. The Hard Rock Hotel was great, people state that you cannot bring girls back to the rooms; I had no problems at all. When I check in, I check in as two people in the room and ever was questioned at all. There was no additional change for two at check-in. The only thing I hear is the Hard Rock is hard-core on the girls must be 19 or older, no 18 year olds.
Soi Cowboy was a little slow compare to past Decembers. In addition the cops closed 3 bars for 2 weeks while I was there. Also one night the Joy Club burned up. This closed the area down for most of the night. The girls are starting to get a little more pushy on the drinks, now at the Cowboy. The last few years the girls most of the time would sit with you for 5 to 10 minutes and you would ask them if they want a drink, before they would ask you. Now it is starting to get like Nana a little on the drinks. The cowboy is still a fun time!
Nana is dead compare to past years. There are a few clubs that are still busy (Hollywood, Playscol, Angel Witch), but over all, it is dead. The number of girls in some of the clubs is half what there were last December. There is no clubs, standing room only as in past years. Talking to a few of the girls and mamasan that I have known for a few years, they say it is dead and nobody is coming. The Girls are getting days off without pay with no problems. In the past dec-feb, if a girl did not work they would fined them, now they are taking days off. Nana is dead, in general. In the past, the open-air bars in the center of plaza had a lot of people drinking too, now they are dead. Not a lot of new or younger girls working in Nana. It is allot of the same girls with this summer. Pattaya is getting allot of the new girls I think.
Other Area:
The New Day Night Bar outside of Nana was busy all the time from 2p.m. to closing. Lots of freelancers and people drinking.
The newer Open Air Bar area across road from old Clinton as got a lot bigger in the last 5 months. It is a good place to have fun without the pushy girls. Lots of bars, I would guess 20 plus bars and girls to have fun with. Still not allot of western there drinking yet, but I had a lot of fun there. It is worth a visit in the early evening.
CP2 is still great! Lots of girls and great service for a Soapy.
For you that did not attend the get together on the 13th to bad. It was a great time! We had some good bullshit and fun that night. I wish you all could have been there.
Originally posted by brabreaking
mrice
INDIAN people smell bad, but not the ASIAN. When did that happen, I mean a new continent? I might also be a stupid(?), but what I remember from my pry education that India is part of ASIA.
I am sorry if you wanted to preach that ASEAN (Association of South East Asian Nations) people do not smell.
Writing 'mrrice' instead of mrice is really a stupid. Note taken!
Geographical semantics aside, there is most obviously a major physical difference between people from India and what most westerners conventionally picture when we say Asian people.
Originally posted by Freeler
Mrice,
"I'm working in Issan right now, so every weekend I have to come all the way back to BKK if I want full body immersion in professional pussy."
Again, why is working in Isaan, KK, a problem when it gets to getting girls? If you REALLY can't find any in KK, no need to go as far as BKK: Korat has all the essentials.
Hey Freeler,
No it's no problem getting women in KK, just that all the major joints are fishbowls which I don't care for so much. Korat isn't much better, but then I haven't had anyone show me around there beyond the big fish bowl at Ginza entertainment plaza. I much prefer the BKK gogo bar scene and freelance bar plazas.
Originally posted by kevin_405
Hey poster hows the quality of the girls at these places..
How long do they give BJ for..
Do they do Bare back ... and do they kiss if you take 2 at the same time...
Not that you asked me, but I went to Patpong as I said earlier I would. I thought the girls were ok quality, good and bad like any bar, but not as much hot stuff as a good gogo bar cause there are really just a few chicks in these joints as they tend to be small bars.
I stopped off at Star of Love, (Patpong soi 1) then went to Star of Light (Patpong soi 2) just to see if they were both bj bars - they are.
Once inside SOLight I sat down at the bar under the coaxing of an ok looking girl with a bit of an overbite named Jane. Bar had 3 stools, each with a curtain under the bar where u can get a bj from the girl on her knees. Guy sitting next to me was getting sucked, but I wasn't into the group scene even if it was partly camouflaged.
Took Jane into a back room. On the way back she grabbed a jumbo box of kleenex. Really sleazy room (that's ok, sex should be dirty) - she blew me for about 15 minutes, bareback. Overall I didn't care for it. She spent half the time pulling kleenex out of the box to wipe off all the slobber she was making and to wipe her mouth out, and then throwing the kleenex on the floor. And her technique was not great - just bobbing her head up and down a hundred miles an hour. I tried to coach her to slow down and take me all the way in but without success - she would slow down for a short time, but then I would invariably run into that aforementioned overbite. No Linda Lovelace here.
Wound up going back to Nana and taking a nice girl ST.
Probably I will try again till I find a girl who will take me all the way down her throat without biting and let me set the tempo. Would appreciate a name/bar from anyone.
When I was in Bangkok in November I couldnt help but notice that the sex scene was slower than in past years. It still wasnt high season and I thought things would get busy in December. I have spoken to a couple friends who have been in Bangkok and they tell me the clubs are hurting because it has been a slow high season. Could one of the members who is in Bangkok please post their impressions about how busy it is now in Bangkok? In the pasted I have noticed that it was slow between Christmas and New Years in the city because so many people go up country. I await with interested to see the reports on this.
sexreview-
I'm in Bangkok right now, and was up by Nana plaza last night(monday). I didn't go in any of the gogo bars because I had my Thai girlfriend with me. However, there were so many hot girls out and around I couldn't believe it. There were more pretty girls alone or in groups than I had ever seen before. The ratio of girls to guys in that area had to be 5 to 1. Every other girl we walked by on the street was giving me the eye. By the time we got to where we were going, I had deep red marks from my girlfriend's fingernails in my arm. There were a crapload of ladyboys out too, but that's just not my scene.
I wasn't here last year at this time, so I can't comment on that, but it seems like a great time to be here!!!
Also, I've noticed over the past few days that there seems to be an invasion in Bangkok of short chubby guys with shaved heads!!! Does every dumpy guy under 5'7 have to shave his head bald? Sorry if you're one of them, but it just struck me as funny.
BraBreaking
12-24-02, 08:21
Originally posted by kevin_405
Hi brabreaking
Hey i am going to be there in Mid March ...
Can you tell me the places I should visit
I will be there 1ce in Feb and 1ce in March for 3 days at a time..
I am sorry to hear the discrimination but you need to dress and act like a tourist...
Hi Kevin-405
Thanks for your understanding.
Regarding places to visit, follow the posts of other fellows. However, if you are new to LOS try to start with soapies. Since you are on tight schedule, be familiar with the atmosphere during your first visit so that you can make your own choice for your second one.
Try eden for a memorable, unique experince. Well, of course, if you're into kinky things. Marc will take good care of you, I must say (3500 baht incl. tips for two heteros). You can also bring one girl to your hotel room after 10pm for LT (till next morning; 2500 baht flat rate, if I can remember exactly). You can blow her A-hole as much time as you wish/can. A good value considering the time/effort involved in haggling in the Go Gos (my Pattaya experince only). If you stay at Ruamchit Plaza Hotel, the famous therame coffee shop is right in the basement. Apart from the girl part, it is really fun to be there.
I am also planing to visit at the end of March. Good luck.
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mrice
I know you got the message what I wanted to give you. Thanks for your enlighting comments. Please close this chapter. Also, please don't try to react again!
Peace!
I wonder if those girls in the BJ bars are the biggest source of Herpes in Thailand ... I cannot imagine a girl giving bareback BJs for a living and not having some serious diseases..
Its some thing to worry about I guess ..
What are some good clubs to go to for quality girls for a short trip of 5-6 days..
Whats the cost of the BJ...
Originally posted by mrice
Not that you asked me, but I went to Patpong as I said earlier I would. I thought the girls were ok quality, good and bad like any bar, but not as much hot stuff as a good gogo bar cause there are really just a few chicks in these joints as they tend to be small bars.
I stopped off at Star of Love, (Patpong soi 1) then went to Star of Light (Patpong soi 2) just to see if they were both bj bars - they are.
Once inside SOLight I sat down at the bar under the coaxing of an ok looking girl with a bit of an overbite named Jane. Bar had 3 stools, each with a curtain under the bar where u can get a bj from the girl on her knees. Guy sitting next to me was getting sucked, but I wasn't into the group scene even if it was partly camouflaged.
Took Jane into a back room. On the way back she grabbed a jumbo box of kleenex. Really sleazy room (that's ok, sex should be dirty) - she blew me for about 15 minutes, bareback. Overall I didn't care for it. She spent half the time pulling kleenex out of the box to wipe off all the slobber she was making and to wipe her mouth out, and then throwing the kleenex on the floor. And her technique was not great - just bobbing her head up and down a hundred miles an hour. I tried to coach her to slow down and take me all the way in but without success - she would slow down for a short time, but then I would invariably run into that aforementioned overbite. No Linda Lovelace here.
Wound up going back to Nana and taking a nice girl ST.
Probably I will try again till I find a girl who will take me all the way down her throat without biting and let me set the tempo. Would appreciate a name/bar from anyone.
Don't blame MRICE for his comments its not his fault its a manufacturing defect...
MRice you should have gone to school and graduated instead of wasting your life in a 7/11 because you thoughts make you sound like a illiterate who was better off in Alabama...
Originally posted by mrice
My personal experience is that whenever I come in close contact with someone from india or the middle east (arab) I more often than not notice a strong and rather unpleasant body odor. Not so when I am near european/american/asian people.
You should check out the Ginja Massage Parlour ..
Its the best place to knock an Asian in the US mostly South Koreans thought
Originally posted by Dick Johnson
Was in Hollywood partying this weekend. It's kinda official now, with a sign saying, THAI TOWN, on the hollywood freeway. THAI TOWN has a bunch of restaurants, supermarkets, stores etc but definitely no action hahaha, too bad. No soapies, no Nana, not even freelancers haha.
It'd be nice if there's a go go bar in here LOL yeah right.
trentgreen
12-24-02, 11:00
TRIP REPORT(dec 9-18)----- Man that trip is long 2 hrs from wyoming to LAX- 12 hours from LAX to Japan - 6 hours from Japan to BKK... 32 hours from door to hotel..... 2 am tueday moring BKK time,, fuck it , I have to sleep!! zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Tueday did some shpping saw some sights blah blah blah!! Tuesday Night(Dec 10th): Had some beers at the hotel "Royal Boikey Sky" , nice hotel (got upgraded to a suite), you can see everything from the roof top bar.... had to head out to the good ol NANA center.... walked in (my first time there) ,,new exactly where to go (thanks to this board) ANGEL WITCH!! but walked right past it.. where the hell was it??? 2nd floor? thats what I was on? damn this WSG!!! opppps ok I see It! started walking back by Casanovas (ohhh crapp!! duck and hide), then got the standard greatting by most of the other bars (grabbing my junk) finally made it to AngelW! but some Thai girl jumped in front of me and said "No!" come with me, she was really smoking so ,sure why not, went back all the way around the NA-NA Plaza to end up at a bar called Secreats, right next door to ANGEL WITCH!!! at this point , all I wanted was just some A/C and some beer.. ok lets go, she wiped my down with a cool towel and started trying to kiss me,, (to soon for my tastes) but she grew on me, she was a hot liitle thai from the Isaan region (go figure) no tits but a fine face and body, she spoke very good english, she keep on taking off my shirt, but when I finally bar fined her, I took it off so her friends could see, and give her some "face", as the avg. patron, is about 35+ and out of shape (no offense)...... she was great!!! didn't discuss a price before hand but gave her 1500 (i know its way to much), but she was way nice. her name was Nong, tip her for me.. then I was off to pattaya,, ohhh dear lord, I love that place I will post again! (FYI the Biyokey Sky Hotel charged 500 joiner fee) no getting around that young,old,female,camel,hobit,! -(Trentgreen_2002@yahoo.com)
Dick Johnson
12-24-02, 11:06
I know a bunch of AMPs in L.A. that have full service. I dont go there though lol. They don't interest me anymore :)
PosterLion
12-24-02, 13:55
Yogo10,
This forum has been useful for getting my specific questions answered. It is also amusing to read everyones posturing and/or arguments. What can you expect? These trips make you crazy! :)
Here are some links to get you going. I think any first time (or nth time) visitor can get into plenty of trouble with these tools. So be careful and dont go crazy. Nothing is perfect and everything is a dream.
Patpong Maps
http://www.nanadisco.com/Maps/patpong.html
http://www.thailand.com/travel/pic_nightlife/map_patpong.gif.
Bangkok General Info
http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/
http://www.nanapong.com/
http://www.**************.com/
http://bangkok.thailandtoday.com/guides/00_g02_siam.html
A Couple of Hotels
http://www.majesticsuites.com/
http://www.nanahotel.co.th/html/
Transportation
http://www.bts.co.th/
Pattaya
http://www.pattaya-at-night.com/
Some Tools
http://www.fodors.com/
http://www.oanda.com/converter/classic
http://www.wsgforum.com/
poster...
TonydaSnake
12-24-02, 21:51
yogo10,
All the information one needs to minimize stupid mistakes and expenditures is so easy to find here that someone with an IQ of 90 should have no problems. Folks simply ignore all the advice so there must be other factors at work here since most people have IQs >90.
Take trentgreen, recent poster for example. He ignores all past advice at NEP and lets first aggressive doorgirl bodyslam him into a gogo (not the one he was trying to find). He has already given up control, but he rationalizes that "hey!" this girl is pretty hot and proceeds to overpay her as well (1500bhat+600BF+room?) over 2000 bhat total it appears.
What's a forum to do? Yogo10- you take take a non aggressive Mohatma Ghandi sort of approach with your post (or essay) but the result is the same, many extra words to sift through but no really useful info about Bangkok. Consider what posters have been asking about lately, great BJs...let's consider this!
Thai girls don't give good blow jobs!!!!!! They don't grow up doing this!!!! BJ bars are the sleaziest of the sleaze, and the only thing you can count on is getting a BJ, not a great one!!!! You must find your own deep throat or get referrence from that rare sex tourist who has had great one and feels generous (good luck!). Anyone can read past post and figure this out.
Is there a zen method to weed out all the questions that have already been answered in triplicate in this forum? Let us know!
tonydasnake
thanks for a great reply, I plan to visit end of Februaryu early March. If you or any other living there would like to meet and show me the ropes , I would apreciate it ...
Thanks yogo10
TonydaSnake
12-24-02, 22:43
BJ's-- there are bj specific bars in the big three (patpong, NEP, soi cowboy). Also one off side street of soi 8 called "alleycat." Again, hard to get great bj in Bangkok because Thai girls just don't like doing this, plain and simple. They tend to slober alot and don't have good technique. Solution: do your own research or get references.
My referral: Venus 01-7471068 (freelancer, better than average BJ). Cost 1,000 bhat. Venus is talented all around girl.
Anal--no anal specific bars I know of but relatively easy to get. How? ask girls, or mamasan in gogos. Look for girls who have great asses and are proud to show them. I found that even on the streets if the girl really like to display her back, then she's probably proud of that part of her anatomy and more likely to share it. Girls in my experience never asked extra for anal so don't give it. My experiences in gogos with anal were all mechanical. More fun in soapies and with street girls. By street girls I don't mean those on Sukhumvit after 2:00, but ones walking past my hotel (dynasty inn) on soi 4 before midnight, and sometimes in the afternoon.
My referral: Pond 09-0173908; Nann 09-2072115; sorry one of them did really good anal but I've confused them. If interested, ask! Cost 1,000 bhat.
Light skinned, and non isaan girls. Hit restaurants, discos, dive shops, universities and other venues foreiners go to outside the main sex areas. also, just fish off the streets. This is difficult to do unless you have time and some kahunas since the same possibility of rejection exist as in the USA, and that is never why one goes to Bangkok... for rejection!
Basic in out, in out: 1000 bhat short time, 1000++ long time. But specify what you want. Ask for extras BJ's ("smoke" etc.) even if you don't really want them. If girl won't do them that puts you in strong bargaining position.
Hi tonydasnake
No doubt there is a lot of information here but at times it appears to be too much information to seive through to get the required info and a lot of the archives end up getting outdated as far as price and hot places go..
My approach is to look at the newer posts which are more accurate
I went to brazil and was intially getting taken inspite of getting all the info from the forum. One of the reason i came up with was going to a lot of these places alone ... having spent so much on the flight etc we tend to care less intially until we get a hang of the whole situation... Every body needs to experience it his own way to get by..
Anyways can you give me the current price for short time and Long time.. and the must go gogo bars for quality (i am going for 5-6 days)
Also can you give a low down on soapies including services and prices.. from a lot of what i have read soapies seems to be mostly for sensual massage..
If you can point me to a more recent and comprehensive travel report that would be great..
This Bangkok forum seems to have a lot of unwarrented and unrelated posts going on which makes this takes really difficult. I have been thought like 10 pages and am yet to find a recent comprehensive travel report that gives all the info needed..
Originally posted by tonydasnake
yogo10,
All the information one needs to minimize stupid mistakes and expenditures is so easy to find here that someone with an IQ of 90 should have no problems. Folks simply ignore all the advice so there must be other factors at work here since most people have IQs >90.
Take trentgreen, recent poster for example. He ignores all past advice at NEP and lets first aggressive doorgirl bodyslam him into a gogo (not the one he was trying to find). He has already given up control, but he rationalizes that "hey!" this girl is pretty hot and proceeds to overpay her as well (1500bhat+600BF+room?) over 2000 bhat total it appears.
What's a forum to do? Yogo10- you take take a non aggressive Mohatma Ghandi sort of approach with your post (or essay) but the result is the same, many extra words to sift through but no really useful info about Bangkok. Consider what posters have been asking about lately, great BJs...let's consider this!
Thai girls don't give good blow jobs!!!!!! They don't grow up doing this!!!! BJ bars are the sleaziest of the sleaze, and the only thing you can count on is getting a BJ, not a great one!!!! You must find your own deep throat or get referrence from that rare sex tourist who has had great one and feels generous (good luck!). Anyone can read past post and figure this out.
Is there a zen method to weed out all the questions that have already been answered in triplicate in this forum? Let us know!
Trentgreen,
Sorry to have to ask this but are you Thai ???
because no matter what you look like, if you are a westerner, forget about giving the girl face by taking your shirt off ... to show the difference between you and the 50 year old sitting next to you, trust me, he is also leaving with a prize for the night, maybe cuter than the one you had .... why ?? ... money plain and simple, thats what they are after, and it is a fact that they see older more mature men as having more of it, than a younger guy.
When you have a look around you will see these girls hanging off every farang .... regardless of looks, age or even race, if you have money, they want you.
Looking forward to your next post on Pattaya .... keep it up ;-)
OzGuy.
trentgreen
12-25-02, 03:59
No , Im not Thai, and i do agree with you, for thai girls its all about the money. but given everything is = (money wise) between a younger attractive guy and a older man, thai girls (or any for that matter) will useally want to go with the younger guy (its human nature), even if its not as much as she could make with the older guy.. But I do agree that the age in Thailand, isn't much as a factor for getting discounts , freebies, etc.. I think Brazil would be better for the younger crowd, the girls are more sexual and enjoy it more and tend to give big price breaks and freebies for men they find attractive and fun.
To TonyDaSnake:
I dont think i overpaid that much, nothing was discused beforehand (price,St,LT), and i could have given her 1000 in the morning or less and she would have been happy (I thought it was strange that she didn't state the price before hand, as all the others on this trip i knew before hand what it was going to cost me, is this something many thai girls do?), but whats an extra 500 b . ,, and the barfine was only 400.. but you forgot to add the 500 b of drinks I had :) ..
Originally posted by kevin_405
No doubt there is a lot of information here but at times it appears to be too much information to seive through to get the required info and a lot of the archives end up getting outdated as far as price and hot places go.. My approach is to look at the newer posts which are more accurate
Why don't you try the forum search - the search options regarding topics and terms are excellent
Originally posted by kevin_405
Anyways can you give me the current price for short time and Long time..
Two different people just answered that question before u asked it.
Originally posted by kevin_405
This Bangkok forum seems to have a lot of unwarrented and unrelated posts going on which makes this takes really difficult. I have been thought like 10 pages and am yet to find a recent comprehensive travel report that gives all the info needed..
Again, try the forum search tool. Maybe posts are unrelated to what you want to know, but we talk about what we want to here, nobody's job is to enlighten newcomers. If something interests you then throw it up for discussion and talk about yourself, your experiences and your tastes - don't just demand that other posters here be human encyclopaedias for your perusal.
AsiaTraveler2
12-25-02, 05:46
kevin_405;
There are some on the board that don't mind answering your questions, since we all did at one time or another. Bar fines are 600 baht or so. That was the going rate about a month ago, when I was there. Tips vary. Depending on the girl and her looks, you can get away with anything from 500 baht to 2000 baht for long or short time. Some posters have a policy of never paying more than 1,000 baht. I'm not one of them. I just tip, however I feel like, based on my experience with the girl. Some will want to negotiate up front, and others don't say anything. If you want to low ball on the tip, then just offer 500 baht, and negotiate from there. You will get a good feel after talking to a few girls. Most will never complain at 1,000-1,500 baht. 2,000 is generous. But I do that from time to time, and the girls are always happy.
BKK is very centralized in terms of bars. Just go to Nana, Patpong, and Soi Cowboy, and you will quickly see which bars are hot. No need for anyone to tell you. You can do all 3 in one night, to get a feel for the city. Just stick your head in the door, and go from bar to bar. Don't just stop at the 1st one you see. Everyone has differening opinions on what's hot, based on taste .. agressive or passive, crowded or not, etc. You can use the Skytrain to get easily between the 3 locations. Have fun!
Hi
Thanks guys for responding to my questions...
I had to go down like 15-20 pages to get some good reports . I just wish people would not post useless stuff here and stick to the topic...
I see posts like Viagra which has a sperate section on the board any ways ...
I also see lots of racist stuff ... come on man give us a break nobody comes to this site to read race related bull shit ...
Jackson We should have something like a hall of fame i.e some place where good reports get moved if certain selected (section moderators) people vote for it ...
Section moderators could be some one who would keep a tab on the section all the time and move good reports..
kevin_405 -- the answers (or links to them) to most, if not all, of the questions you've asked can be found in the Thailand FAQ, available just by clicking on the Thailand link at the top of this section. If you don't want to search through things, and you're disappointed that there's too much of what you feel is off-the-point stuff to look through, that's definitely the place to start.
And, to be honest, getting the section cluttered up by complaints (and then responses) that the section is too cluttered up ends up doing the same thing as having it happen by people rambling off-topic or anything else. The nature of such a forum is that there's going to be both some degree of repetition (this is probably the 50th time I've seen a post asking about prices) and off-topic rambling. This is particularly going to be true and problematic using non-threaded software such as this, where the discussion is naturally presented as a kind of salad, with everything mixed in together. But none of that particularly matters as long as there's good information and reports sprinkled in between, and I'd say, for example, that there's been a decent thread over the past few days about the various bj bars and people's experiences in them wandering in between the rest of things here.
TonydaSnake
12-25-02, 09:02
kevin_405
I'm not in bangkok now, nor do I live in Thailand; I was last there in Oct.
If you want to email me at wildernessdoug@yahoo.com I'll help you navigate the Bangkok scene, since your time there (6-7 days?) will be so brief.
Otherwise I'd simply recommend getting a small notebook and going through this forum page by page and writing down recommendations; everything is here believe me!
But like you said, based on your brazil trip, you can still make basic mistakes even with written information that is good.
Up to you...
Hey guys!!
I will be in Bangkok from Dec 26 - 31. Have anyone of you in Bangkok the same time so may be we can get together for bar hunting. Please let me know. BTW, have a question to ask, is there anything different between oil massage and soapy massage with the exception of one being oil and the other one is soap. They both provide sex right??
Thanks you all for this forum.
San\Dog
TonydaSnake
12-25-02, 09:53
sandog,
the difference is oil massage is often hj only and sometimes no sex. also often ****d girls.
the soapies are more legit, and definately nastier with the girls often offering all three orifices as well as licking and fingering your cornhole. in soapies at some point you are also oiled up!
but try em each for experience, and traditional thai massage as well (nonsexual). all worthwhile.
price (approximate):
soapie: 1000-5000 bhat + tip
oil: 500-1000bhat + tip
traditional 200-400bhat + tip
Thats was the most informative stuff i have seen all week.
Thanks man, i was looking through all the posts and one question that was never answered was the name fo the clubs well now i know why.
Originally posted by Asiatraveler2
kevin_405;
There are some on the board that don't mind answering your questions, since we all did at one time or another. Bar fines are 600 baht or so. That was the going rate about a month ago, when I was there. Tips vary. Depending on the girl and her looks, you can get away with anything from 500 baht to 2000 baht for long or short time. Some posters have a policy of never paying more than 1,000 baht. I'm not one of them. I just tip, however I feel like, based on my experience with the girl. Some will want to negotiate up front, and others don't say anything. If you want to low ball on the tip, then just offer 500 baht, and negotiate from there. You will get a good feel after talking to a few girls. Most will never complain at 1,000-1,500 baht. 2,000 is generous. But I do that from time to time, and the girls are always happy.
BKK is very centralized in terms of bars. Just go to Nana, Patpong, and Soi Cowboy, and you will quickly see which bars are hot. No need for anyone to tell you. You can do all 3 in one night, to get a feel for the city. Just stick your head in the door, and go from bar to bar. Don't just stop at the 1st one you see. Everyone has differening opinions on what's hot, based on taste .. agressive or passive, crowded or not, etc. You can use the Skytrain to get easily between the 3 locations. Have fun!
AsiaTraveler2
12-25-02, 20:43
kevin_405
No problem. Here's a couple of websites that have alot of info. Names of the bars, outcall massage (relatively expensive, but still a bargain by US standards .. 2,000-4,000 baht), Massage Complexes on Ratchadapisek (must try in my opinion), etc. The 1st 3 on the list are general sites, with alot of info. The last 2 are official sites of the Super Complexes on Ratchadapisek. You will need to use a taxi to get to those. Most taxi's do not want to drive to those during the week .. too much traffic, but you can get to them on Sunday in 15 minutes. Weekday traffic is just gridlock. Look forward to seeing your 1st post, upon your return!
http://www.**************.com/
http://www.one-night-in-bangkok.com/
http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/
http://www.poseidon2000.com/model.html
http://www.newcleopatra.com/home_Cleopatra/home_cleopatra.html
Holy cow the Super complex links were out of the world .. What are the prices etc at these places..
Also i will be there during a weekday so was wondering what i could do to get to these places like go in the afternoon , take a bus etcs...
Thanks again bro ... you are the man ...
Originally posted by Asiatraveler2
kevin_405
No problem. Here's a couple of websites that have alot of info. Names of the bars, outcall massage (relatively expensive, but still a bargain by US standards .. 2,000-4,000 baht), Massage Complexes on Ratchadapisek (must try in my opinion), etc. The 1st 3 on the list are general sites, with alot of info. The last 2 are official sites of the Super Complexes on Ratchadapisek. You will need to use a taxi to get to those. Most taxi's do not want to drive to those during the week .. too much traffic, but you can get to them on Sunday in 15 minutes. Weekday traffic is just gridlock. Look forward to seeing your 1st post, upon your return!
http://www.**************.com/
http://www.one-night-in-bangkok.com/
http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/
http://www.poseidon2000.com/model.html
http://www.newcleopatra.com/home_Cleopatra/home_cleopatra.html
AsiaTraveler2
12-25-02, 23:30
kevin_405
The prices for Poseidon, etc. are about 2,400 baht. You then tip the girl if you want. I usually tip 1,000 baht, since the service is great there. You get 2 hours .. be sure to confirm that with the "papa-san", who will be sure to greet you at some point, while you stare at the fishbowl in amazement. The girls start to roll in after 4:00pm. The selection is very small before then. 15-30 girls vs 100+ later. Prime time is 4:00pm-7:00pm. Selection starts to thin out later, as everyone get's selected. The girls come and go, so even at later hours, there are some nice gal's to be found. Talk to the Taxi drivers. Find out how long they think it will take to get there. Time varies by time of day. You may have to offer them much more than the 200-300 baht, that it normally takes. You may spend more than an hour in traffic, though. Unfortunately the skytrain does not go in that direction. They are all on Ratchadapisek. They look like Sheraton size hotels. The 1st 3 floors are generally a restaurant, fishbowl, and sideline models sections. Take a look at the sideline models if you can. It's a bar area, where you may talk to the girls. You may find someone to your liking there. Confirm the pricing though. May be higher, in some cases. You might want to check out Cupidy. It's in a smaller complex, much closer to the Nana area. The drivers, I believe, do get commissioned though. Might cost you. I wish I had some answers around the traffic problem. I have not been able to solve that issue. Good luck!
Does the optional tip mean that the girls are paid for sex out of the 2400 at poseidon..
Originally posted by Asiatraveler2
kevin_405
The prices for Poseidon, etc. are about 2,400 baht. You then tip the girl if you want. I usually tip 1,000 baht, since the service is great there. You get 2 hours .. be sure to confirm that with the "papa-san", who will be sure to greet you at some point, while you stare at the fishbowl in amazement. The girls start to roll in after 4:00pm. The selection is very small before then. 15-30 girls vs 100+ later. Prime time is 4:00pm-7:00pm. Selection starts to thin out later, as everyone get's selected. The girls come and go, so even at later hours, there are some nice gal's to be found. Talk to the Taxi drivers. Find out how long they think it will take to get there. Time varies by time of day. You may have to offer them much more than the 200-300 baht, that it normally takes. You may spend more than an hour in traffic, though. Unfortunately the skytrain does not go in that direction. They are all on Ratchadapisek. They look like Sheraton size hotels. The 1st 3 floors are generally a restaurant, fishbowl, and sideline models sections. Take a look at the sideline models if you can. It's a bar area, where you may talk to the girls. You may find someone to your liking there. Confirm the pricing though. May be higher, in some cases. You might want to check out Cupidy. It's in a smaller complex, much closer to the Nana area. The drivers, I believe, do get commissioned though. Might cost you. I wish I had some answers around the traffic problem. I have not been able to solve that issue. Good luck!
Dick Johnson
12-26-02, 03:53
The girls get 1000-1200 of the amount. The tip is extra. 1000 is a pretty generous tip. Usually 500 will do.
Even a 300($7) tip is better then walking away not tipping. The girls always show their appreciation and make the ending of the session pleasant.
Is Khao San road far from Nana ? If so how long does it takes to travel and can I use local busses ?
Another great massage place to try is Darlings. It is on Soi 12 and only a few blocks from the Nana Entertainment Complex, no problem getting to it even in heavy traffic. The rate is 2500 baht for 90 minutes, complete service is included in this rate. Most time I do leave a small tip. I found the service to be equal to or better than the places on Ratchadapisek Road without the longer taxi ride.
Guys,
Its a genuine question, does noone have the answer??? Are we all too set on blasting each other for various reasons (race, repetitiveness, repetitiveness!)
Has anyone been to the new place on sukhumvit soi 1 called The Number One Club?
I posted earlier that it has contradictory reveiws regarding up class blow job bar to 6 floors of fantasy brothel.
Can anyone help?
Cheers
Darling is a great spot. As for Sukhumvit Soi 1 will check out on Jan 6
Would anyone be able to tell me how far is khao San road from the Nana etc. action ? Could I use public transit to move between the two places ? Would the transit system stop running after certain hours ?
Thanks Yogo10
AsiaTraveler2
12-26-02, 13:56
kevin_405
Don't want you to get the impression, that Ratchadapisek is the only place for soapies. Read the Bangkok tonight website, and it gives you a rundown on all of the places with maps. It's a great website to read. It also has a discussion board that you can read, which offers others opinions and reviews of each location, and also info on escort services for after hours fun. I have Darlings a clear notch lower than Poseidon, Emmanuelle, etc. But everyone has their own opinions on the subject. I would suggest trying one of the Ratchadapisek parlors, one of the Nana area parlors like Darlings, and make the rounds of Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy, Patpong, and possibly Clinton Plaza. If you have 4-5 days, you should be able to do them all. You will get a well rounded experience of BKK! Think of it as a buffet .. complete with dessert!
Dick Johnson;
Yes, I think most would agree that 1,000 baht tip is a tad high, but it's what I like to pay. 500 is fine.
TonydaSnake
12-26-02, 18:10
yogo10,
Khao San road is not far from, lets say, Nana Plaza as the crow flies, but this is Bangkok, and you do have to go clear across the city as it is near the Chao Praya river.
I walked there (3 hours) from Nana, but even walking somewhere takes longer in Bangkok since it's not Ped friendly; anyway, I can't give you info on buses, but no doubt you could get that info from a hotel's travel service desk.
Don't go there for the action (girls)! However, it is good to find backpackers, really cheap food and lodgings, markets, and cheap buses to Cambodia.
yogo10,
Tonydasnake is right, getting anywhere on foot in Bangkok can be a problem, the Bangkok motorist doesn't see pedestrians as having right of way or any right at all for that matter !! ... but I supect you were asking not what action was around Khao san rd, but how to get to Nana from there, as I guess Khao san is where you are staying ?? ... if so, I and I am sure the other members on the board would suggest staying closer to the action near Sukhumvit Rd, Thailand is one special country for many reasons, which is why we all go there !! .... not the least for the huge range of accomodation, be it budget or 5 star, there are decent rooms for almost the same cost as a backpackers hostel.
OzGuy.
Tonydasanke,
Thank for the info. By the way, I tried to look for the Angel Witch go go bar but could not find it. I know it is in Nana Plaza which is a cross from Nana hotel, can you help me to local this bar. I heard that they have a lot of busty girl. I like honey with large size buss.
Thanks,
Sandog
AsiaTraveler2
12-27-02, 12:39
Sandog;
Here's a website that has a good description of the location of Angel Witch. 2nd Floor of Nana. Amazing how many guy's miss the place. I think the problem is all of the distractions, while walking around the place!
http://www.bangkokbargirls.info/NanaPlaza/angelwitch.asp
The site below has a layout, which is incomplete\outdated, but it shows where Cassanova (lady boy bar) is, which is the reference point.
http://www.one-night-in-bangkok.com/nana2.html
Dick Johnson
12-27-02, 14:11
Tonydasnake you WALKED from Nana to KS Rd?!? Dang you a hiker or somethin? I'm surprised you did it in 3 hours. So you were broke after looking at the Gogo girls and needed a really cheap place to stay and walked all the way to KS Rd?
For guys who are broke and horny there are inexpensive accomadation around Nana that would be a better choice then KS Rd. It is stupid to go there as cabs costs between 80-220baht(rush hour) and there's no skytrain.
I stayed at KS Rd at Buddy Lodge it was 1800baht/day with my own balcony. I've seen cheap hotels around Nana from the skytrain station. Don't go to KS Rd just for the cheap rooms unless you want a small room shared by 5 stinkin guys who hasn't bathed. There are places around Nana that's not much more then KS Rd if you want to have your own room. Just look around. There are hotel rooms for 700 baht or less.
I personally don't go for those and stay at 1 or 2 bedroom luxurious suites myself.
` ` `
On another note..
Massage Parlours
On Ratchadaphisek there are a whole Bunch:
Emmaunualle near Emerald Hotel 275-7474
Poseidon
Copa Cabana soi Ratchad 17639-9393
And many others.
On Rama 9
Victoria's secret, soi soi Soonwijai 4318-8370-3
Honolulu 641-5757
Dick J
TonydaSnake
12-27-02, 20:38
DJ,
Back home I hike, climb, do gym workouts, etc., etc; but in Bangkok the only excercise was boinkin' twice a day so only the 3rd leg was tired!
My solution was to take long walks each day in those late morning early afternoon "empty" hours. I had previously lived in Thailand two years so had no interest in the specific tourist attraction around town, I just wanted to walk FAST. Believe me KS road was merely a destination picked off the map although I knew about those granola eatin' vermin called backpackers!
Sandog,
How!!!!! He! he! he! How can you miss Angel Witch? I think I know the answer which happened to Trent Green earlier; he let an aggressive bargirl manhandle him into a Gogo short of his destination. In this respect I agree with "Z" and others in that we should be a bit more James Bond like. If your on a mission try and complete it! Focus a bit which means keeping your eyes open -NOT ONLY THE THIRD EYE EITHER!
Do bargirls take English classes before they work at the bar? Or they learn from their customers? All bargirls, the one I talked to, all told me that they took English classes when I asked them how did they learn to speak English. And also when I asked them how long have they been working, they all told me that they just started working either couple months or couple weeks. I didn't believe in what they said but I found it amusing when I tried to play first timer in go-go bars. Has anyone run into the same situation when one asked those bargirls with that kind of questions?
AsiaTraveler2
12-28-02, 06:48
taodan;
They mean, they take english classes in school. Not sure whether it's early like the elementary level or later as in highschool, but that's where they learn. Same as in Japan, Korea, etc. Thai girls just have more chances to practice it, due to the high number of tourists.
Taodan,
They all say they learn it in school ... they all say they just started working .... take EVERYTHING a bar girl says with a grain of salt, the truth is that while some of them learnt english at school, most pick it up from their customers, as well as bits and pieces of other languages, German, Dutch, etc ... the better they speak english, the longer they have been in the trade.
OzGuy.
This little gogo dancer I met earlier this year from NaNa plaza said when a customer asks her where she learned to speak english so well, she says "I learned english at school....Playskool."
yeah, they learned english the same way i learned my thai...in the bedroom...
tapioca
Sup Fellas I'm back!
Hey one thing I like to say is that I am impressed with the responses on the Bangkok board thanks to all for the info.
One thing I had to add Im not the one to back off from a thrill.You guys have said the right things to make me want to give it a try.
I'm one of the guys who gets along well with anybody no matter where the place is. I grew up in a mutliracial setting(Though it's Boston) and therfore I am comfortable in a multiracial crowd.Im not going to make a huge fuss out of this I just want to get to know the "Land Of Smiles" and even if it is worth the time from my own point of view.,I havent seen any group of people, in the US or abroad, who have there act together on the subject of race black included(lord knows in trying!) My Asian friends tell me that I'm "Quiet" and have a manner that is compatable to many Asian sensiblities(generalization of course).
A person who is warm,generous, and fun to be with will do A-OK in Bangkok.Again thanks to all. I'll be chiming in here from time to time:)
Oh,.......Rumor is that the Eden Club does not want blacks in. PLEASE anybody with info on this say it isn't so!,say it isn't so!! I had my heart set on going there.
MEATMAN
Hey Guys,
I just got back from Patpong, and the gogo bars were almost empty! There were plenty of hot babes to go, but no customers at all. Also, I saw the prettiest gogo girl ever in King's castle 2. She looked like a Thai version of Catherine Zeta Jones or something. Flawless. I don't know her name or number, but she'll be easy to pick out if you go there. I was there with my girlfriend who used to work there, so I couldn't act too interested, but she did tell me that there are NO ladyboys allowed to dance on stage there.
Anyway, If someone wants to go and get her, good luck. Unfortunately, I can't go there to BF any girls because they all know me now.
TonydaSnake
12-29-02, 20:35
Dana,
If there is a Hell on Earth, your situation is it in my view. But you are taking it well...
Meatman,
Are you in Bangkok now? I believe someone recently posted the number for Edens, but you can find it easily I'm sure. Just call and talk to Marc, the proprietor, before you go and ask if has a problem with race and his business. It is smart to call anyways to set up an appointment.
My advice to you is the same as to anyone living large in the sukhumvit sex strip. No matter where you are, no matter what time of the day, if you see a girl that compels you and she returns your stare, she will probably be agreeable to servicing you, so get her number for future use. If you can't make eye contact or she is too far away, go for it anyway. One of my best memories was this dream I saw walking down the street (early afternoon) in a short red dress cut just above the knees. By time I caught up to her she was on a busy street corner full of people but I asked for her number, got it, and scored that night.
Just go for it...
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