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rickenrack
07-15-04, 01:13
So has anyone ever used AFF to hook-up with someone successfully? It's the cyber equivalent of looking for SW in a sense.

Robby63
07-15-04, 02:07
AFF has been a scam as far as I'm concerned. After being a member for a month all I got was a bunch of spam. Most ads are not real, just meant to get your email addr.

Star Lord
07-15-04, 02:43
I was a paid member both as a single and a couple. Never had much luck. Set up a number of meetings, all of which were no shows. Plus other game playing. Never hooked up with anyone in person.

On the other hand it was exciting exchanging responses for a while.

Horny24
07-15-04, 02:46
I've had nothing but bad experiences with AFF. All the girls that responded to my profile were just trying to get guys to subscribe to their website. I would suggest looking elsewhere. Just my two cents.

Dick for Brains
07-15-04, 03:25
rickenrack,

Could you elaborate on AFF? I've never heard of it.

DfB

Rolly Polly
07-15-04, 13:04
AFF = Adult Friend Finder

I've heard a lot of people say they have success with it. I don't believe your analogy is correct to compare it to online SW scene. It's more of an incognito independent esort site.

rickenrack
07-15-04, 19:19
I've not yet hooked up with anyone from it. I've found a large number of women who will spam the crap out of you. But if you know what you're looking for, you can also find professionals doing some "advertising". It all depends how clever you are in your search.

Indiana Fun
07-15-04, 19:51
Anbody ever try date.com?

Timber Tree
07-17-04, 05:42
How about sex-on-the-side-org? Is anybody willing to take one for the team?

J Burb
07-21-04, 19:50
ADULT FRIEND FINDER:

I hooked up on AFF with this fat chick in my area a few years ago for a couple of romps but it took me 6 months of emailing dozens of girls before getting a single response and I never got any from my own ad. She on the other hand said she got over 50 emails her first week and didnt even post a picture so you can imagine the response hot naked girls with pictures get. The obvious problem with AFF is, it advertizes now on every other porn site and draws in a disproportionate amount of horny desperate men to selective few women. Thus the competition will be fearce among it's drooling masses if you can even find a ligitamate ad to begin with.

I think AFF probably works better and has more real ads if your a man seeking a man or if your part of a swinger couple looking to swap with other couples. If your a single hetro guy however, your likely just wasting your time and money while helping to make AFF rich. My sucsess was certianly not worth the effort I put into it and I've gotten much more play through regular dating sites. You will have to play the dating game to get any pussy from regular dating sites though, but thats to be expected.

J Burb

University
07-22-04, 21:46
I have used AFF off and on for a couple of years. I usually get a silver membership for one month and don't renew it. If you are a standard member, expect no benefits at all. All you can do is browse. As a standard member I never received one response to my profile.

As a silver member I have had a bit of success. Over the past two years I have been a silver member for one month on four different occasions. Each time I was able to meet at least one woman.

The first woman was in Andalusia, AL. We met at a motel after chatting occasionally over a week. She was not much in the way of looks, but she was a super sex partner. She was married and bored and her oral skills were very good. I saw her only once because she was so ugly.

I met the second woman at a motel in Panama City, FL. She was a divorcee. She was like a dead fish in terms of agressiveness in bed. We had sex once and I left, even though I came prepared to spend the night.

The third woman I met at a motel in Evergreen, AL. She was married but was not getting any sex. On a scale of 1-10, her looks were a five. What she lacked in looks, she made up in agressive sex. She was good. But, again, I was turned off by her looks and never saw her again.

The fourth woman I met at a motel in Ozark, AL. She was as ugly as hell. She was a screamer, and I was not comfortable knowing that whoever was in the next room could hear her. One time was enough on her, too.

The fifth woman I met was also in the Ozark, AL area. I went to her house. She was divorced and had a couple of kids at home (but not at the moment). She was a good sex partner, too. But her pic flattered her.

A couple of other ladies strung me along for several weeks. After several cancellations of planned meetings I wrote both of them off.

If you join AFF, you might want to stay away from the standard members that have posted pics that seem too good to be true. That's exactly what they are. They are fakes.

I just joined back up with AFF as a standard member, but I don't expect anything to come of it. I'll probably wind up signing up for a month of silver membership and see what else I can come up with.

Reno Dude
07-23-04, 22:11
I've been on AFF myself. It probably does work best for swinging couples and single women looking for couples or being real, damn picky.
I tend to believe that it's a scam for single men. It could be done easily, if you know what I mean. I've gotten a couple of emails back, but they say auto response on them. ???? Doesn't people read their emails anymore?
I've paid one time, and that will be the last.
There is a service - I don't know how long its been around - called Web Date. The service has been free so far, and you can cam with other people. You'll have to see it to know what I mean. The address for this service is:
webdate.com

It's been interesting so far because you do find some of the women at times flashing their tits. (:

Reno Dude

Macgoo
07-24-04, 09:25
Brethren,

FYI, I noticed here that some are inquiring about AFF, and want to add my "Dos Pesos". AFF is a slick site that really feeds on its self by creating a community of hopefuls. My experience is that you can indeed find that jewel, but it requires creativity. I have found a few cuties, all married, by joining in the chat rooms with the objective of making the women laugh. They seem to have a weakness for wit, and will often make contact to let you know. My most notable episodes were cultivated by returning to the same room, flirting, but not pouncing as soon as she begins to flirt in return. Often, I will simply take note of her handle, and return the next day or two to continue the same. Another advantage of AFF is that when women find you interesting, they have ways of letting you know; via pm, invites ect.

If you join, never engage in a pissing contest with the competition. Many of the women on AFF are regulars and they do take note of what you say, and how you say it! And, do get YIM or another instant messenger so that you can communicate privately. The downside to AFF, in my view, is that the site is chuck full of 'large' women who are not honest about their weight.

Now, as an alternative to AFF, there is a site called Paltalk (note: some imitators with similar name). They have several rooms, many for adults, but some for teens and special interest. The beauty of Paltalk is that many women use there Cams while on-line and mic for audio too. This way, you can actually see who you're talking with; and if bold, let them see you too. There are two down sides to Paltalk, as I see it; First; the women are often miles away. Second, when you find a 'looker', all the other guys are shooting their best shot. The pace is fast, the energy is high, but if you can isolate a cutie it's worth your while.

I find Paltalk to be quite interesting because the women will perform sex acts right on camera, they are often in various state of dress. Currently, working on a cutie that I met through this site but I think she wants more that I have to offer; you see - I lied! Oh well!

Let me know what you think.

Lew Archer
07-24-04, 11:26
I am not sure if these fit into this category, but I have been using free services (Hey, I am cheap in some respects) lately craigslist.org and loveaccess.com

Everyone basically knows about craigslist, it is popular for being popular, more than anything else. Sort of like the flea market for any and everything, at least on the site, people are specific about exactly what they want. I have met some women from the site who were not bad, but no success.

Loveaccess.com seems to be the typical dating site except that you do not need to pay in order to contact/e-mail someone that you are interested in. I am currently working on meeting someone from that site.

Has anyone had any experiences with these sites or know of similar ones that they can pass along?

Macgoo
07-24-04, 12:27
Much of the national press has given eHarmony some very good reviews, though I cannot concur personally. Besides, I hear-tell it's for those serious folks looking for the M-word.

My Alias
07-24-04, 14:58
I've created profiles on several several singles sites, but have tried to avoid getting paid memberships because they're not worth it for me. I live in a small town in a fairly remote area, so I can sometimes figure out who from my area has posted profiles by their photos and information. In most cases, the free memberships are pretty worthless.

If all you can do is the free membership, avoid these sites -- FriendSearch.com, AFF, Babyboomersmeet.com, Professionalsmeet.com, IWantU.com, AmericanSingles.com, UDate.com, Kiss.com, Eroticy.com (after the initial three-day trial) and AmateurMatch.com. Some of those sites will let a female member send you an e-mail and will let you know it arrived, but it won't let you access the message. A few of these sites won't let you view pictures, and some sites won't even let you know which member sent you a message. A note on the Eroticy.com site, the initial three-day trial does allow e-mail access, but at the end of the trial it stops and all you can do is view the profile of someone who sent you a message.

Some sites will let you respond to e-mail messages sent by other members, but won't let you initiate contact if all you have is a free membership. Sites in this category include Match.com, Tickle.com, Date.com, SexyAds.net, Yahoo Personals and DreamMates.com. A few of these sites will let you send a wink or a tease, but not an actual e-mail message. I have not tried the EHarmony.com site, but I've heard it falls into this category.

The only free sites I've seen that allow full e-mail access are BookOfMatches.com and PlentyOfFish.com. The BookOfMatches.com site is pretty straight and doesn't allow any untoward language or sexual content. It even has an automatic editor to its e-mail program and I've had comments such as "nice pussy cat" edited to "nice p***y cat" and the name Alfred Hitchcock edited to Alfred Hitchc***. The PlentyOfFish.com site is a lot looser and seems to be more of a hook-up site. There's even a category for people seeking "Intimate Encounters" and some profiles have nudity in the photos. There isn't a Craigslist.com site for my state, though I've looked at a couple of the Craigslist.com sites for other cities. I've never used Loveaccess.com.

J Burb
08-02-04, 02:51
As for Eharmony and some of the other more serious dating sites such as Match.com I'd agree that most of its women are playing for keeps. Some telling signs: You will see a greater amount of 30 somethings than anything (tick,tick,tick). Also take note of thier multiple choice answers to the "want kids" question. 99% of them select "definately". Further reinforcement: Thier answer to any income requirement of thier potential mate often far exceeds thier own saleries. (Sombody has to finance those future kids). Match however sometimes sponsers local events that I've heard people report doing quite well at. Everyone gets nametags and thier name gets put on a list in a central location. You then periodically go check the list during the event to see who signed up to talk to you and go connect. No ads to browse, just primal attraction which is a better casual hook up formula.

As for other pay sites, althogh not as popular as Match, I like the payment structure of Lavalife.com. Free to join & advertise but you prepay for however many credits you'd like to answer ads with. No bullshit time expiration or monthly fees. Also, they have 3 seperate categories of ads: Relationships; Dating; and INTIMATE ENCOUNTERS.

I dont partake in chat rooms for lack of time and priority, but have seen others who are consistantly dedicated hook up multple times. It seems sometimes lesser known local sorces can yeild better results than the big ones.

Watch out for this scam on any site: Someone will answer your ad and after you respond to them with your email contact info you will get a follow up email saying you need to access them through another dating site. Hopefully they dont get your phone number too because its all bogus and just one struggling agencys way of recruiting customers from another.

J Burb

Rock Dog
08-02-04, 16:28
Greetings all,

I just noticed this section and decided to take a look to see what's going on. It was surprising to see a section on dating sites here at WSG. Well, time to share my own experiences.

Most dating sites seem to be membership oriented. I have joined a couple just out of interest. It seems like most of them end up being the same old thing after a while. The reason for this is because you tend to find the same three types of women on these sites.

The largest group is comprised of women who are really, really selective about what kind of guy is acceptable to them. Of course "selective" is female code language for being really picky. You can spot them easily by different things that they look for in a man. Serious, yet romantic. Exciting but stable. Young but experienced. Has a sense of humor but doesn't joke around too much. No man could ever achieve the impossible balancing act required to make one of these women happy and that's why you find so many of them on these sites.

Another group is made up of women with baggage. Laden with past heartbreaks, disappointments, cheating and divorces, these women are hoping to find their dream on the internet. The big problem with these ones is that they are highly untrusting because of their past experiences. Many of them never let their guard down because they're afraid of getting burned again. Personally, I don't feel like hanging around month after month trying to make up for the last guy' mistakes and neither should you. These women can be spotted right off the bat by such opening lines as; tired of the games, or players need not apply.

The last group is made up of women who are not attractive. They look in the mirror and they may see an attractive woman, but nobody else does. Reality does not match with their perceived self-image. So, they try dating sites in the hopes that there must be one guy out of the thousands who really will think they are good looking. These are the easiest to spot. Just look carefully at their pic. Check closely to see if it looks really out of date, or only shows her face. Key phrases here are "a few extra pounds", rubenesque, or (my fave) "BBW".

If you REALLY want a good looking women with no issues and who has reasonable expectations, you'll do a lot better with the international dating sites. Chat with some of the women, then go for a trip and visit them in their own country. She'll treat you like a king and go around showing you off to her friends. Believe me, it's a lot more fun and it's really worth it.

My 2 cents worth on this subject,

Rock

Incaroca
08-05-04, 17:52
WWW.CYBERCUPIDO.COM


I recommend this site. Its an incredible free dating site with thousands of profiles. Its specialized with latin chicas, specially from Colombia, Peru, Cuba, Spain and Venezuela. There are girls af any age but there are a high quantity of young chicas profiles (from 15 to 30 yo), maybe cos there are more facilities to find a westerner boyfrind, and cos in this countries birth taxes are more elevate that firt world countries, so the variety is ashtonishing.
Its free, but only you have the right to see almost 30 profiles per day, and write 2 diary messages. If you want to write to more girls you have to inscribe it. But I think that 2 beauties per day its enough isnt it??
Some girls post it her photes, but the majority only write her profile.
Is better that you can speak and write in spanish, but maybe you can find some chicas that can speak it in english, specially young university chicas.
Its highly recommendable For people who are looking for a girlfriend, cos all the chicas (specially from Latin America) dont waste the opportunity to write to a westerner or and american. So maybe youll find the girl of your life. Latin chica its totally diferent of first world countries girls. They are sweet, very femenine, polite, and they fight hard four your man (the contrary that in Western Countries), specially if its a stranger. And of course, in sex you will be in other dimension!! :)
But also there are most girls that only want a short relation, or even are non pros (like I find in Peru). With some presents and sweet words you can conquer them. Its very easy to win the way to her pussy with a dress, flowers or a good restaurant, specially with more hot (in all the senses), like cuba or colombia. Young chicas are the most enthusiastic for a short experiencie, I say by experience.

Good luck!!

El Chapin
08-09-04, 22:26
Incaroca & everybody else:

I've registered to cybercupidos.com a couple of days ago, and yesterday my profile was finally activated. Since then i had quite a number of chicas mailing me, some from Germany (just as I am) and some from Latin America, mainly Perú. With one of the "German Latinas" I've even talked already, so I know it's not a fake. She's living some 100 km away from me, but depending on how things develop I guess I'll meet her quiet soon, as I will hopefully some other chicas that live a bit closer.

I will also try to build up some sort of "relationship" with a couple of the Peruanas, as a preparation for my trip there that I plan for this winter.

As of this moment, I'd say that things already look really promising, especially considering that it's all totally free.

I'll keep you updated should some more interesting things develop, until then thanks everybody, especially for pointing this site out in the first place (I learned about it in one of the SA-forums I think).

J Burb
08-10-04, 11:02
I just want to warn anyone seeking foriegn women of a scam I saw on TV once. The girl has an attractive picture and eventually wins you over through regular email corrispondence. Once she has your trust and it appears to be going somwhere she may give you some sob story and request small amounts of money from time to time which will seem like peanuts with the currency difference, so you agree. Eventually her goal is to get you to want to transport her here and at that point she will request a substancial chunk of money to tie up her loose ends and make it all happen.

Seems reasonable, afterall she will be your woman right? Wrong, you'v e just been emailing some foriegn dude who submitted a pic of his sister and strung you along for the past six months. Now the contact info they gave you no longer works and you have no recourse becuase they are in a foriegn country. So if any girl in a foriegn ad requests money at anytime, be very suspicious.

J Burb

The Master
08-11-04, 10:39
Hi,

I was also had this experience, once I received an Email doing exactly what you have said here, I know it is a kind of scan, so I waited, and wanted to see what is the next step.

then one day, she is asking me for the money so she can fly over to my country,

Guess what, I said to her, that if you want to fly over, you buy the ticket first using your money, then I will repay you twice the amount when I see you in my country.

Haha, then she just gone.

So take care.

Rock Dog
08-12-04, 05:04
J Burb,

I ran into the exact same thing several times. It was on a dating site that I'd joined. This was my first time for online dating but, luckily for me, I'm a fast learner.

Most of the girls I talked to were from overseas. The idea was that they would be more likely to have a better attitude than the women around here. The website even had a chat system so you could talk with other members who were online at the same time.

BAM! The very first girl I ever chatted with tried to hit me up for an airline ticket after just 4 minutes of conversation. Hah, she must have thought I was a sucker. Anyways, I started to see the pattern pretty quickly. Certain girls from certain countries were way more likely to try asking for money.

Some of these "girls" had pics that they lifted off of porn sites. Some were way too professional looking and were likely scanned from some fashion mags. That's one way of spotting the scammers.

I'd advise anyone to be suspicious of any requests for money. These are some of the most popular tactics: I just need a little for my cellphone so we can talk, I need some money for internet time so we can chat, I need some money for my university courses, It's my birthday next week and you should send me a present, my family/sister/mother is having a terrible time please help out, etc. etc.

The simplest policy is to tell them right off the bat that you never send money to someone that you only know from online. The casual scammers will give up on you right away because they'll figure you're not worth their time. Hardcore scammers are a little more tricky because they're willing to put in some more time to convince you that "they're not like that".

Most of these girls are lazy-ass scammers. Some of them are put up to it by their boyfriends, who are lazy-ass scammers. Some of these girls are actually guys (ran into that once or twice). Some of them are visa-hunters who won't ask for money, but will cost you time and effort to bring them over so they can run away as soon as they get here.

There are probably a few genuine ones who just need a little help, but I think these are few and far between.

I did end up sending money to a couple of online aquaintances. However, it was not until after I'd gone over and actually met them in person.

Rock

J Burb
08-14-04, 03:36
Remember, the requests for small amounts of money are just as important in the scam because they establish a solid payment method between you and the girl before she sets you up for the big hit.

J Burb

Rock Dog
08-14-04, 05:46
J Burb

I agree totally with what you said about small amounts of money. Another thing to consider is that this may be her (his?) main focus.

Consider the huge difference in the standards of living in some of these countries. I've been to places where $200 a month is a big deal. At 20 working days a month, that would come out to about $10 for a whole days' work. If one of these online scammers can line up 9 or 10 guys to send them $20 every month, it's just as good as having a job.

I've talked to women online from Nigeria. They told me there are girls who do nothing but sit in the internet cafes all day long scamming for money.

One of the things that I always used to keep in mind was the time difference. If you see some woman who is still online chatting when it's 4 AM local time, you might want to be a little suspicious. I've been to Africa and I can tell you, the "good girls" aren't up at 4 in the morning.

FYI :)

Rock

Drago
09-14-04, 12:03
ABOUT AFF:

I lost time and money with that, and from what I read in this page I am not alone!

But I have some good news too, I tried the Italian FF (I got a 3 month complimentary silver membership) and I already met two ladies, a 45 y.o. from Rome and a 38 y.o. from Parma (I'm from Milan) both very hot, I'm still seing the lady from Parma...

Last year I was on Asian FF, I paid for a silver membership as I was travelling to Shanghai for a couples of times... That was value for money guys... on my first trip I laid down two good looking non-pro's in less than one week and failed to meet a third one for lack of time!!!

In my approach I didn't have to lie, I said I was planning to travel often to Shanghai but not to move there. And that was enough to win their confidence. One was looking for something serious though so she set me off when she realized I wasn't in for long term. The second one was much cooler abut it (she was already dating another foreign guy) and we're still in touch, hope to travel to Shanghai soon!!!

So IMHO if you are lokking for single non pro's don't waste time on explicit adult oriented sites, you will find plenty of them on "normal" dating sites, it's just a matter of spending more time and effort...

But where on earth can you get it for free?

Good hunting

Drago

Skelelton Sled
11-22-04, 19:13
Hello,Hi all,

They work But they work for what you pay for!

Great expections you have to fork over alot of $$$ and thats not even a sure fire way to meet someone! My .02 cents-is all dating services. Use fake pics to bulk up the male membership ratio! Really how many Girls/ladies will use a dating service in usa? Not many Not many at all There chaaa ching cash cows these services and they know that have us men by the cajonies. The ladies/girls may be real what comes with that package is why they joined in the first place.

As for all the ones that were mentioned here they have there up's and downs
Most of them use the same concept-E harmony thats a lil wee bit tight for me
in what im looking for.That has a reglious backround to it!! Its been said(no lie)
Now my 0.02 cents for the day Is this,its quite simple_in order to make it as a Basketball,baseball,football,track star or anything in life is to stand head and toes above the avg Joe! Be better be greater Got to dominate in everything.Got to dominate! Dont be a pw mofo! this is for american woman

Not to be used across the oceans!!

Zidaho
11-28-04, 18:51
Hey Mongers,

I have used the dating sites with varying degrees of success the past several years. Here are some of my observations:

Match.com: conservative but authentic profiles. Have had annual membership on this site the past three years. Like all dating sites it's a numbers game. I go through cycles generally sending out 30 emails over a few days, every other month or so to replenish my pipeline, and generally get 15 responses, 10 of those will meet me within the next two weeks, of those 3-4 will back out the last minute. Out of those six or seven I select 3-4 that I will earnestly pursue a few days before we meet, cell phone numbers make them feel safe talking. Typically meet for coffee or lunch or if she is hot I take her to dinner, out of those four that I meet o(usually weekend) because I generally drive to a bigger city to meet them I find 1 or 2 that want to move forward quickly and are attractive as advertised, the others want to take it slow, which is OK if I find them attractive.

Zidaho
11-28-04, 22:15
I accidently sent that last response. Not able to edit oh well.

Anyway, I think the key point with Match Yahoo and Kisscom is consistency over several months working the site, sending out emails, and developing a pipeline. An initial contact email on these sites that I have found successful is saying something like "Wow you are gorgeous, or gee you are PRETTY and I just hope we have the opportunity to meet". Women seem to respond to simple, matter of fact flattery, laced with an easy neutral or perhaps a somewhat cavalier suggestion of meeting sooner rather than later. So I try to keep it short and sweet, consistently a little flattering beyond that, words in matters of romance/friendship generally meaningless until you actually meet each other. And I put my phone numbers and addresses to her directly when I recieve a response, I think it also makes her feel more secure, it's like one shoe dropping. Generally though before meeting the less I can say (without being creepy) the better, lot of women nervously overtalk creating way too many unrealistic expectations about who I am before even meeting. And that should raise at least a patient yellow flag, note; some rationalize a man will fall in love with her personality/heart thus overlooking the deceptive profile (old picture or average body) with the reality (way older looking, and way overweight). Of course guys often do the same thing. So if meeting is the objective post a little less than flattering picture it will be a delightful surprise when you have the opportunity to touch her. Obviously more prevalent in the 35-50 age group. So I try to stay focused with the primary objective of meeting face to face. I have met some really fine women through these sites, and generally they have been suprisingly the horniest women I have ever known. I still think about a few of them when I consider going into a committed relationship, which in the long term is what most of them expect, naturally. It is a trick keeping ones integrity, while seeing and meeting so many women in the on-line dating venue. I justify it with a fact that women can go out, select and get laid about anytime with-out offering much more than her body, or a simple nod, I on the other hand need a large inventory as my need is more present and my selections not available to me at any given time. So right now I have about eight to ten women in various stages of intimacy. It's fun, sometimes aggravating but also gratifying, particularly when I have a woman contacting me wanting to see me in bed, or a confident husband who sends an email because he likes to see his horny wife's legs dangling over my shoulders. Mongering and dating both have their advantages and pitfalls.

I have been a paying member on AFF for about 4 years now. As a single guy I have met maybe half a dozen single women in that time, but then, only when I was sending out massive numbers of emails. Only a few that were really great in bed. It is mostly a scam (as J Burb and others aptly described) getting single guys to gin-up with a membership to contact those sex kittens glorified on the site. It's hype. I used to send out about 30 emails a week, I attacked AFF and others sites with a mass mailing, similar to long term direct mail marketing program. So many fakes on the AFF site. And frankly with all the sites it is hard, hard, hard to hit the timing just right even with the weeklky/monthly mailing scheme I implemented, to hook up with that hot couple, or, genuine single girl looking for some discreete fun. I have only landed a 2-3 really pretty single women from AFF and then it took months of time and weeks to solidify her trust. As a single man I have far greater success with couples on AFF and SLS. In fact that is the category to whom I focus all my energy now. BTW a far better site is swinglifestyle.com less scam fakes. Though it takes tact I have discovered it is far easier to hook up with married women, profiled with a husband on SLS and to a lesser extent AFF. Surprisingly I have had several girlfriends from Match or Kiss who profiled with me as a couple on AFF and SLS. Definitely more meetings with that combination, "meeting" being the key word there because it is MUCH harder for four people to agree and feel comfortable together when meeting like that from a dating site. Something about the dynamic of a fourth person or two couples makes it exponentially more complex. So even though it is more difficult to get meetings with a couple as a single male, I definitely have more success from that point forward in getting her in bed. Also, it took me a while to realize one of the partners is generally the decision maker it is good to determine who that is from the outset and be aware of it during the encounter.

Last thought, and I realize this is a long email and probably burning alot of you out. But, when I first started on the standard sites about 4-5 years ago, I put some really brazen profiles out there making it VERY clear what I was looking for in a woman ie no sexual hang-ups etc, etc. THen I sent that profile out to everyone, definitely burnt some bridges with some of the women I wanted to meet but I sent it to everyone even the ones without a photo. Looking back now I think that approach was just as effective as being the nice safe guy, my rate and time landing some real foxy women was really good. The profiles without pictures are typically women who want annoymity, so remember that as well as their age group when targeting them with your emails. Of course the profile was not grossly or scary candid just kind of onery and witty candid. I was very surprised by the quality of some of the women who responded, women who found that approach refreshingly intriguing, bold and a suprising number who went to a hotel just an hour or so after meeting. So . . . there are some suprisingly beautiful women out there on these safe sites looking for no strings attached sex. Hummm, maybe I should try that again! Also forget about feeling sorry for yourself about having to send out all the emails and never having a woman contact you first. I used to compalin about that and still do toungue in cheek but a woman changed my perspective when she mentioned that it's no picnic having to sit there and read 30 profiles every week and trying to weed out the ones that are a waste of time. Wish I had a twin brother so I could play both ends of this game. Ha, ha.

Thanks to you mongers who have been posting on these threads, I have gained much from your insights. You are the primary reason I feel compelled to give something back to this board. I hope it helps someone.

With the Match and etc sites I used a couple of sets, that is a series of written emails that I had developed, my personal boiler plate and send out with the attitude that they were all in various stages of being laid. I even went to the anal extent of having in depth files on my conversations, notes, BD, names of kids, work, etc on 10-20 of the women, and couples I was working on at any given month. At one point I would demand with the ladies that were ready to get naughty that they would have to send me their panties before we could meet so I could scent them prior to meeting and sucking there tounges between my lips. Ha, ha. I have about 30 pairs of panties labeled and archived in my office storage. I think women are extremely suseptible to cyber romance once you can get around some of their security issues. As an example a few years ago I had numerous women over the space of several months who would walk into my office without ever a prior face to face meeting and within a few seconds have them bent over a chair or on their knees sucking my cock. I had one match girl go to an apartment in a short revealing dress, to meet me, her to lay her panties on the coffee table her back to the door, standing looking out a window while I entered walked up behind, bound her hands with a silk scarf, bent her over and took her right there. We had a great fantasy fullfilled relationship for about a year, she's married now but we stillhave coffee and laugh about it. Ha, ha.

Tiantain
11-29-04, 03:30
Does anyone know of sites to pick up women in Shanghai, China other than AFF?

Laser Eye
04-10-05, 05:37
I've been lurking for awhile and have decided I may have something useful to
contribute. While net surfing I happened upon a site which is totally free.

I have been in contact with several women,via e-mail and phone. The site seems to be world wide. It appears that few,if any,of the ladies are pro or semi-pro.It might be worth a shot for those who have some patience and are seeking non-pro action.

The site can be found by searching Google key word: Plentyoffish

L.E.

Capt Ajax
05-07-05, 17:41
There are many real women reading these ads - not as many as there are men, but we're out here. Some of us DO actually meet people off of the list. There are a few things you should think about, though, before you dismiss it as a waste of time or all bullshit. First of all, when a woman posts an ad, she gets a lot of responses. It's a numbers thing. I'd say the men on the list outweight the women by at least 20:1. So your odds were never good. Does that mean you shouldn't try? Up to you. Second, when a woman (me, for example) posts an ad and gets anywhere from 40 to 150 replies over the course of a week, she's got to have a way to narrow down the selection. What's she supposed to do - meet them all?

So, the lucky girl narrows down her selection via her own criteria (email, pictures, phone, whatever). The preponderance of guys who contacted her are going to be eliminated - a good bit of the time without response. I mean, what do you say to the guy who does not meet your qualifications and is not what you are looking for? "No thanks"? I don't know. It's my experience that the No, Thanks emails get a lot of vitriol in response so why send them? Responding to an ad on CL is beyond no strings. No one is required to respond to your response.

But let's say that you did reply and you were not eliminated, but you did not seem to be the most promising responder. Who knows why? Maybe someone seemed like exactly what she wanted and you were just sort of what she wanted? Maybe you mentioned that you can't get away weekends much, but she's looking primarily to play on the weekend? I mean, it could be for any reason whatsoever. Regardless, she's got to get through all the ones in front of you before she gets to you, right? Unfortunately, if you aren't one of the frontrunners, you probably are not going to get a response. That's life. But it doesn't mean she isn't real and CEs do not happen all the time through this site. It also does not mean that you would not be the frontrunner for someone else or for that same girl at a different time.

Thirdly, the bitterness over not having any successful encounters is wasted emotion. Try harder. Or give up on it. Whatever your tolerance for disappointment is should dictate how much you try. My tolerance for it is very high (most of the time). You think I do not suffer disappointments when I place ads? The boys lie all the time. They send old pictures, they misrepresent themselves, they act all hot & heavy and then they punk out because suddenly the fantasy could become reality and they're uncertain. Perhaps you aren't cut out for CEs? I mean, how would you feel after meeting 10 chicks all of whom lied about some aspect of themselves or their circumstances? How would you feel if you carried on email conversations for weeks, planned to meet someone, and they no-showed?

Put simply, the disappointments you are facing on the list itself are NOTHING compared to the ones you will face should ever get on a lucky roll and get some replies. And no matter what - you rarely ever get an explanation as to why (meet 'em, don't meet 'em. fuck 'em, don't fuck 'em. you never know why it goes away when it does, it just goes away). Nature of the beast.

CEs happen. But they aren't for the faint of heart. You have to have a sturdy constitution to pursue them.

That's what I think. Now lay into me. I'm ready for you.

Member #1005
05-07-05, 22:36
Astor Bryan

I am not sure if you are a real woman or just saying that for some dramatic effect? Either way it does really matter to what l have to say; but yes, I agree with what you have to said. Here is my two cents worth to what you have said.

On dating sites, like everything else in life it’s a useful tool if you know how to use them. However, many guys make a common mistake in wrongly assuming that women who place adverts on dating site are just desperate for sex.

Remember to get the best out of this type of service you should first do your homework. In my experience there are certain countries where dating sites work extremely well. I have had very good results in Japan, Germany, Latvia and Brazil, however the downside is language whilst I have reasonable spoken Portuguese but my written is poor.

The next and most important point to remember is that in my experience I have found many guys don’t actually know how to communicate with women. I personally cannot understand how it is that some guys find it so difficult to meet women on dating sites.

When I went to work in Japan because I was there for a relatively short period I placed an advert on a Japanese dating site, not for Tokyo because I already knew some girls there but for Osaka and within two hours I had received six replies, in fact one girl called me up at 1.30am after I sent her my telephone number, she wanted to meet up the next day. Naturally, I was surprised since I was already in bed asleep at the time. But this girl wanted to meet the following day to show me around Osaka. I have since met another Japanese girl, from the same site who came to the UK to improve her English, and wanted to meet up and I have been on and off with her for two years now, she meets up with me twice a year and has just spent Christmas with me here in the UK but she is getting serious now asking about that dreaded word “commitment” however, I don’t want to be drawn into my personal life too much here.

However, about ten years ago, I for the purposes of an article I was writing, looked at various methods of dating the opposite sex. I came to the conclusion that dating agencies worked but what lets down many guys is one they wrongly assume women are desperate for sex and second many of these guys don’t know how to communicate with women. I have met many girls who have shown me the types of replies they have received and it interesting to see what some guys had written; to be honest I was surprised by what I had seen. Some guys assume because they are relatively attractive that the women will automatically fall for them, when they see their photo, this might work if you are a famous actor, but if not then forget it, therefore these guys they have no personality whatsoever or it doesn’t come across. It may be a different situation in a bar but any girl could easily go to a bar and wait to meet a guy in any country, therefore they are using this method because they obviously want something more to the guys they could find in a bar.

To make a dating site work for you, you have to learn how sell yourself and your personality. I would also suggest is that you use a comparative advantage, i.e. all foreigners seem more attractive to the opposite sex, so these dating sites work even better when you are a foreigner, it doesn’t work as well when you are at home. But some of the guys who have contacted girls often use this term that they are “rich” , especially to girls in third world countries like the Philippines many guys use this term and then wonder why they often end up meeting money grabbing girls. I don’t know exactly how much money someone needs to be considered at rich, one hundred thousand, half a million, five million or ten million dollars, what does it matter? When I contact girls or write a profile I never emphasise anything to do with finance instead focus on personality. If you sell yourself like that, naturally you are only going to attract the wrong types of girls.

I recall corresponding with a Lithuanian girl and said l wanted to meet up with her and take her to dinner when she asked where l would be taking her l said to somewhere special like McDonalds, this was meant as humour but it worked we did go to dinner several times, but l should add not to McDonalds.

If I can add a couple of point of how to get the best out of dating sites is as follows:


First, write a good profile about yourself, read it and then read it again and re-write it. Remember, this should not be your life story, but a taster, nice concise and focused.


Second, learn how to communicate, remember if you don’t know how to talk to girls at home then why you would think that you suddenly should be able to go overseas and know how to talk to girls. So learn how to communicate with girls, there are books which can teach you how to communicate with girls. The cheaper option is learn how to hold a conversation with an old woman, if you can do that then you can talk to any beautiful girl.


Third, when you speak to girls, speak with them - not to them -remember to let them lead the conversation, you should not be going on and on about yourself, take an interest in what the girl has to say and ask intelligent questions.


Fourth, when or if you do meet the girls remember if you agree to meet them for dinner this does not mean sex, l like women and I love sex, just like any other man but dinner is dinner and sex is sex and both are two different types of things.


The final point I would like to add is that if you have a chance to watch the movie “Hitch” then watch it and take some tips, it very fundamental but you can learn much from it.

I have read many posts from people along with the clowns on this board and I still cannot understand why it is that some guys have not cracked it yet, especially these so called “expert” can actually go to a place like the Philippines and have such problems forming relationship with females, especially when it’s so easy.

A dating site is like getting your foot in the door the rest is up to you. Remember nothing ventured, nothing gained, of course you will meet girls who you won’t click with, but at least you have learnt something from this experience.

Juniour


PS If anyone wants any one to one schooling it will cost you $1,000 day

PSS, And just what is a woman actually doing on this site??

Long Stroker
05-23-05, 20:22
the worst part- the guy can't even accept the fact that he's been played!

http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=86802&ran=148555&tref=hr

ChicagoBoy23
06-11-05, 16:23
Latinamericancupid.com is good site for meeting girls. Text chatting is very easy. Only issue is most girls don't speak english so you must learn some spanish. Girls are very agressive from Peru and Columbia.

I went down and met girls from the site. It was pretty real.

Turbo Pascal
10-18-05, 20:53
I lost very much time and money with dating agencies.. Many old women use fake pictures. But I've finally found a woman at the site varmigoren.com. It's a free site with no silver or gold membership. Everything is free but the language is Turkish.

Viator
11-13-05, 01:41
[QUOTE=Juniour]Astor Bryan

>>> there are books which can teach you how to communicate with girls.


Hi Juniour,

I read your commentary with interest. Can you give us some titles?

Member #1005
11-13-05, 13:12
Astor Bryan

>>> there are books which can teach you how to communicate with girls.


Hi Juniour,

I read your commentary with interest. Can you give us some titles?

Viator,

The simple answer is to walk into any bookstore and ask for the section on which books can help facilitate holding a general discussion. I know there are books that claim they can guarantee that you score with women 100%. But basically all you need to do is be able to hold a general conversation with a female.

What you are looking for is a way to walk over to that attractive woman you spot and start a conversation without being sleazy or rude. What you have to remember is that most attractive girls don’t have a problem meeting guys every day, but trust me most guys think that starting a cheesy conversation is the way to go – wrong very wrong. These girls will tell you that they hear these same line every day, unless she happens to live in cave somewhere.

You need to stand out from the crowd, not be condescending, but do hold your own opinions.

Rule number one: is don’t sit there talking about yourself, if she wants to know about you she will ask the questions, trust me.

Rule number two: Listen to what she has to say – if a girl tells you she has a baby brother that likes football, later on in the conversation ask her what her brother’s favourite team is.

Rule number three: look at her and concentrate on her only, don’t sit there looking at her breasts, legs or the other attractive girls in the room passing behind her shoulder, girls notice this and it annoyed them like hell.

I wish I could give you a definitive book that tells you how to be successful but these are too numerous to mention and every day another new book is appearing on the selves.

Maybe I can suggest that you read one of these books that deals with espionage, the spying game for the reasons on why are spies successful? The reason is they do their homework, your average spy looks at his subject and tries to understand their interests and around this they are able to build a conversation, finally two question for you.

What does your average person like doing?

Answer: talking about themselves.

What does your average person hate?

Answer: listening to someone talking about themselves. (especially is they have one hell of a boring life, done nothing and been no where)


Hope this helps?

Juniour

Viator
11-13-05, 23:31
Hi Juniour!

>>> The simple answer is to walk into any bookstore and ask for the section on which books can help facilitate holding a general discussion.

Well said, but since I live in a country where such sections are pretty uncommon, maybe you can drop a couple titles you found especially intriguing or helpful. In case the books that are in your mind are not written in English, I can read French, German and Italian as well.


>>> Hope this helps?

It certainly was an interesting lecture, even if the problems I have in holding a conversation with a woman are more related to internal stress and lack of confidence with issues of general interest, than to myself being overly centered on my own personality.

Best, Viator

Member #1005
11-15-05, 19:14
Viator,

Exactly what country are you talking about here?

I suggest that you try ordering book online www.amazon.com then put "dating" or "understanding women" into the search and knock yourself out.

Books that l find interesting are biographies to be honest.

Suave Gato
11-28-05, 15:42
My experiences with the online dating have been mostly good. I always search out the free sites in the various countries I am interested in. Normally a free site starts up and all the ladies from the area sign up, then as it becomes more popular they either charge a fee or end up a part of match.com. I have a young Slovenian friend here in NYC who stays in touch with her freinds back home and lets me know about new EE sites. The mejor draw back is the language barrier, so I have found it is easier to stick with spanish speaking countries. Several years ago I discovered latinamericancupid.com and it was a great free site, with mostly women from Columbia and Peru. Unfortunately now you must pay.

Alp

DJ FourMoney
11-28-05, 18:40
My experiences with the online dating have been mostly good. I always search out the free sites in the various countries I am interested in. Normally a free site starts up and all the ladies from the area sign up, then as it becomes more popular they either charge a fee or end up a part of match.com. I have a young Slovenian friend here in NYC who stays in touch with her freinds back home and lets me know about new EE sites. The mejor draw back is the language barrier, so I have found it is easier to stick with spanish speaking countries. Several years ago I discovered latinamericancupid.com and it was a great free site, with mostly women from Columbia and Peru. Unfortunately now you must pay.

Alp Funny, I found that site in prep for my mission to South America (5 days in SP, 5 says in BsA) so I wanted to hook up some non-pro action for site seeing and other GFE shhhh.

Only reply I have gotten so far is from a 37 yr old Columbian with no picture.

I clicked on alot of cuties from Argentina, but so far no replies. Its only been about 4-5 days though.

Its slowly looking like whole p4p might be good in South America for Brothas, it might not be so hot for non-pros.

We shall see though.

DJ FourMoney
11-28-05, 20:04
I have been online since the early-90's and I rationalized early on that the internet could be used as effective tool in dating and I have used it with varying rates of sucess since that time.

My dating pool is somewhat narrow and only recently have I been able to use dating sites or web portals that cater to this specifically.

It started with chatrooms on AOL (back when they used to charge for IM's), progressed to sites like Blackplanet.com (kind of a oximoron) and now I use sites like Interracialmatch.com, Loveiscolorblind.com and others like them almost exclusively.

Yes I get the usual "few extra pounds" and "BBW" ads that pop up, but generally there alot of hot women out there. Only recently I have been able to travel on a regular basis and that has prevent even higher levels of success.

So I agree, you have to be able to travel because somebody you might connect with, will live from a 10 miles to well over 10,000 miles away. I live in the LA and my prospective pool is larger than, say some rural town in the midwest, but the exact opposite might be the case for a young lady out there.

I have known for a long, long time that tmost of Western Europe is very fertile for the type of woman I seek. Problem was always affording the plane ticket. Since nobody offered and I never asked, the relationships just fizzled away.

Now that I have some time off from driving trucks, which did allow me to see a couple of women outside of California, I plan on extending my search to Europe, but I'm going to detour to South America first.

So I have been lining up some talent from Germany and surrounding areas, but I haven't sent out any emails yet, because I want to secure my travel plans before hand.

I'll also agree, I have met a suprising amount of men that have trouble speaking to women. Its amazing that they have even gotten this far.

Women like attractive men, but you also have to be able to hold a conversation. Some guys talk about themselves too much, etc, etc. But I have also met women that generally weren't about much either. All they did was work and come home, no interest, no hobbies. There full time job outside of work was finding a husband and nothing more.

You run it all types out there.

All I can say is to keep trying and if you find that you get no repeat dates from perspective women, then the problem is you and not them. Email replies as stated before is just a numbers thing and even if you get a good reply back, in my experience you can still end up being father down the list than you think.

You have to do everything possible to increase your odds of finding somebody, even if its only for an intimate encounter...

About AFF, I have found it is worthless if you don't have a Silver or Gold Membership. You have to mass email perspective women in hopes that one will hit. I usually find that men are often times more flakly than women are for encounters, so don't be a no-show!

E-Harmony is bit too rich for my blood at the moment but I'll give it a shot in the near future.

Member #1005
11-28-05, 21:59
Women like attractive men, but you also have to be able to hold a conversation. Some guys talk about themselves too much, etc, etc. But I have also met women that generally weren't about much either. All they did was work and come home, no interest, no hobbies. There full time job outside of work was finding a husband and nothing more.



I have to agree with you on that DJ FourMoney, one of the truest things I have read here. Of course looks are important but that only holds for the initial stage of the relationship. I am often surprised at what some guys think passes as a decent conversation.

DJ FourMoney
11-29-05, 10:52
I have to agree with you on that DJ FourMoney, one of the truest things I have read here. Of course looks are important but that only holds for the initial stage of the relationship. I am often surprised at what some guys think passes as a decent conversation.I find that really rich people and really good looking people tend to be some of the most boring people on the planet.

I think life experiences broaden the mind and personality.

If your not the best looking person then you have to rely on your personality to win people over. You make an effort to try and learn how to talk to women, you have to its vital.

When your looks alone get you that girls number you never learned what to say and what not to say in order to get those digits. I also notice that for ego purposes good looking men tend to target vulerable types, easy prey so to speak.

Just like some hot women expect men to grovel at their feet just by their mere presents. Those women have no interest in anything outside of clothes, shoes, money and makeup. So unless you a flaming gay man you have nothing in common with these type of women.

Just makes dating a sorted mess doesn't it? It can be a drag but I try to think positive, it can be a fun ride.

Brotherrabitt
02-24-06, 09:48
Hi guys

this might be a repeat of info already provided by others, my apologies if this is the case. Got a hangover and can not be bothered to re-read the whole thread.

If you are looking for dates in the UK, try this free site (you need to register but you can send a limited number of messages per 24hrs) www.supereva.com

You can also try: http://www.flirtbox.co.uk/, also free and no limit on the number of messages.

Have fun

Pleasure

Jambo
03-09-06, 15:08
Here is a recent responce from Filipinaheart.com regarding the Marriage Broker Act. I made a post earlier regarding this issue in the Philippines section at
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1001


Thank you for your email regarding the new US law for online dating companies to collect criminal background information from US citizens who contact foreign nationals.

We have just learnt that Judge Clarence Cooper of the United States District court has granted a temporary injunction against the United States government from enforcing the International Marriage Broker Regulation Act of 2005 pending a further hearing on March 20th 2006 to rule on the constitutional validity of the above law.

Therefore, any of our US members who had been affected by the above law will for now be able to continue to use the website without the need to complete any IMBRA background information. We are hopeful that the United States District Court will confirm the unconstitutional nature of this law on March 20th and will keep you informed of the status of this regulation.

I replied that I am still expecting a refund of my fees (I renewed for 6 months just before they started collecting data). I will get a refund or I will do a chargeback on them.

It is unacceptable that they would presume to collect this information--for whatever reason. And its unaccaptable that they, a foreign-based web site, would be so quick to recognize a foreign law. Who else would they share my contact data and credit card information with? Their TOS asks me to give up pretty much any expectation of privacy.

Its their business if they want to minimize their risk and obey any ruling from foreign countries. But I am not going to support them. They need to decide if they want my business, and perhaps other US customers or not.

George90
03-13-06, 02:57
It is unacceptable that they would presume to collect this information--for whatever reason. And its unaccaptable that they, a foreign-based web site, would be so quick to recognize a foreign law.
Its their business if they want to minimize their risk and obey any ruling from foreign countries. But I am not going to support them. They need to decide if they want my business, and perhaps other US customers or not.

Jambo,

You seem to be very against a firm obeying the laws of the countries in which it does business. I guess you were also very upset about Google and Microsoft obeying Chinese laws to censor certain websites there?

Are you also upset at the countries which pass laws for foreigners to obey? Are you upset with Bush for signing this law which does require foreign based firms to collection criminal back ground information on its US clients? Did you know that IMBRA also prohibits US based dating sites from doing business with foreign nationals?

The reason why those foreign firns are obeying this US law is that of they don't, they can be arrested if they ever travel to or through the US. They also might be arrested in allied countries of the US and extradited here.

Instead of griping at those firms, gripe at the people who wrote and passed this law. There is a online petition someplace; why don't you sign it?

Jambo
03-13-06, 14:26
You seem to be very against a firm obeying the laws of the countries in which it does business.

Woah now, which is it? If Cupid Media believes they are doing business in my home state, then they should be collecting state sales tax and sending it in.

Cupid Media (FilipinaHeart.com and others), is an Australian regustered business, collects Australian sales tax, and I presume their servers are based there as well. They should be minding Australian law. Like, gambling is illegal in my state, but guess what? And I suppose all those bar owners in Tijihuana are afraid they will be arrested in the US for selling alcohol to US minors.

Um the Google thing. Perhaps you misunderstood. Google.com does not censor content for anyone (unless the user selects it in Images search for example)--not for free. Why should they? They are a California-based company. Google made a greedy deal with China to provide censored content, persumably with servers located there. China had been blocking access to Google.com from China.

I am going to have my membership fees back from Cupid Media. And I will not become a member of any other site that would give customer privacy such a low priority. Its a shame US-based companies may be put out by this silly little grandstanding law. They should be locating offshore anyway.

Buzz00
03-16-06, 18:54
I thought this might be of some interest to the on-liners out there,

From CNN : Dating on-line for the over 50's

NEW YORK (AP) -- Susan Gladstone's moment came when she turned 50. Divorced, with two children, she was getting tired of asking friends to fix her up and being told they just couldn't think of anyone. And so, she turned to online dating.

Two and a half years and dozens of dates later, Gladstone, an event planner in Miami, hasn't yet found her perfect soul mate. But she's had lots of enjoyable dinner dates, met fascinating people from around the globe, and to her delight has made a number of lasting friendships.

Gladstone is part of a growing trend: people in their 50s and beyond searching the Internet for romance, companionship, sometimes marriage. As in any age group, there are ups and downs. There's the old stale-photo trick (it's him, but 20 years and 30 pounds ago), or the date who asks right away how much money you have, or the ones who say how fabulous you are and then disappear. Still, many older online daters say that even if they haven't found true love -- yet -- it's been worthwhile.

"I had minor back surgery recently," Gladstone says, "and I got about a half-dozen e-mails from men I'd met online, checking up on how I was! Even if I never meet my partner, I'll be happy for the wonderful friends I've made."

The main reason more mature singles are going online for love is simple: more widespread access to the Internet, hence more familiarity with online dating. And dating sites are catering to older members. Yahoo Personals, for example, has an advice column for users over 50, with tips -- on everything from etiquette to sexual health -- for those whose romantic radar may be a tad rusty.

Another reason: "Baby boomers are seeing their children use online dating, and watching their success at finding mates," says Rochelle Adams, spokesperson for Yahoo Personals. "They're seeing that it's not such a crazy concept."

Match.com, another large online dating site, says boomers (which it defines as ages 45-59) are its fastest growing segment -- they've increased by at least 350 percent since 2000, and now number 3 million -- or 22 percent of total users.

Spokesperson Kristin Kelly says older users tend to be much clearer and more realistic about what they want: "There's no substitute for the wisdom gained with age."

Claudia Polley certainly knows what she wants. The beauty of online dating, says the 56-year-old museum consultant from Washington, D.C., is that you can tell right away if someone can write well -- a key test for her. "If they can't spell, and they start out with 'Hiya!' -- well, I wish them a wonderful life, but not with me."

Polley's work takes her around the globe -- Africa, Europe, the Caribbean. "It would be wonderful to share that with someone," she says. Aside from intelligence and flexibility, she looks for wit and humor. Physical appearance is less important. (Surprise! Surveys say appearance is more important to male users.)

So far, Polley's had no major disasters. There have, though, been disappointing moments: "You want someone to be fabulous, and they're not." And so, says Polley, who was briefly married, then widowed, "You just have to say, "OK, well, that's all right. We'll keep looking." (For inspiration she has her daughter, who met her husband online. The first grandchild is due in July.)

Rudy DiLieto is one of the rarer ones: At 51, he's never married. "I wish I had an explanation for that," he says. A New Yorker who works in the fashion industry, he figures he simply enjoyed his independence too much over the years. Now, though, he's more inclined for something serious: "I am looking for that one last romance," his profile reads.

"I absolutely adore women," DiLieto confides, and he goes on at least 10 Internet dates a year. A yearlong relationship ended when the woman wanted to get married, and DiLieto wasn't ready yet. Now, he's happily embarking on a new online courtship.

The only downside, DiLieto says, is when people misrepresent themselves -- as in the old-photo trick. "Why lie?" he asks. "It's illogical." One woman a few years back told DiLieto that if she'd given her real age and weight, he wouldn't have called her. His answer? "That's correct."

Ask Jeffrey Balash, a 57-year-old private capital investor in Los Angeles, how many online dates he's had and he can't even count -- a couple hundred is his best estimate. Logging on is a daily habit.

Balash, who's divorced, says a friend described online dating well: "The odds are good, but the goods are odd." At this age, he explains, "you have a lot of people where there's a REASON they're not in relationships."

He also bemoans the lack of common courtesy that comes with a medium as anonymous as the Internet. "People can be flaky. They don't call you back, they don't show up for a coffee date." And there's another problem with dating in Los Angeles, Balash finds: an excessive emphasis on material wealth.

But there have been successes, too, like one 9-month relationship that ended, but "we're still great friends." And sometimes, even when a date doesn't work out, the woman will fix him up with one of her girlfriends. "What could be a stronger endorsement than that?" he asks.

Of course, it's all a question of chemistry. The spark you perceived during countless e-mail chats can simply fizzle upon meeting the person in the flesh.

Gladstone has traveled to another city to meet someone, only to feel no connection. Now, she's resolved to take fewer such risks.

And for Balash, there was the moment he suspected his coffee date was a transsexual.

"You could tell from the hands," he said.

Mahku
03-16-06, 22:09
Hi all,

I've been having it out on a feminazi blog about this IMBRA law. Even though I've been using restraint and trying to argue in a reasoned manner I've just about been kicked out. No matter, the basketball's on now and I've got better things to do than suck witch tit.

PM me for the link if you want. I'm not sure if it's ok to post it here. You can even post a little and wind up the prick moderator.

Darkseid
04-17-06, 17:51
Hi guys,

anyone tried this dating agency. www.sexsearch.com. If so, post your report on this one. I am hesitant of joining even the silver memebrship, much less gold.

Thanks

Jeff

Brotherrabitt
04-21-06, 15:49
Gents

I have been looking for free online dating sites and have found erocity.com. I subscribed and without having to pay I can search and send messages through this site. If there is a financial catch I think it is when you want to further look at the pictures of the members. This is not a great disadvantage for me, but might be for some of you.

As I have just sent a number of messages, I have no idea about the return.

My apologies if this info is already widely available on this thread. I did a search on erocity but got no posts containing this word, so I assume it has not been mentioned before.

Have fun

Pleasure

Blue Eyes
04-21-06, 19:00
@darkseid

This site is only tricking men to invest their money to get a silver or gold membership. Don't spend your money for this crap. This is not a serious site to meet women. They are sending a lot of emails to male members to make them curious. But the girls are not real.

Blue Eyes

Brotherrabitt
04-26-06, 13:18
Hi guys

another crap site, after few days you can longer read the mails sent to you by other members or send them replies.

so no luck again.

however okcupid.com is still doing a fine job for me, I am now in contact with a few ladies in central europe, will see what develops.

have fun

pleasure

Darkseid
04-26-06, 15:29
@darkseid

This site is only tricking men to invest their money to get a silver or gold membership. Don't spend your money for this crap. This is not a serious site to meet women. They are sending a lot of emails to male members to make them curious. But the girls are not real.

Blue Eyes

Thanks Blue Eyes. I suspected they were a scam as I was scammed into AFF and asianfriendfinder with fake girls. These scamsites do a great disservice to the online dating industry because people give up hope looking for the real ones. Then when you upgrade, you get more fakes like girls getting you to masturbate over their paid website pics, webcam chats or movies with girls that you'll never meet face to face. They may send e-mails but they are probably guys writing them posing as these girls with phony photos. One such scam in AFF I fell into was a "girl" (possibly a guy getting his kicks outs of posing as a girl) from Michigan that I e-mailed for months then when it was time to meet, "she" said "she" hit a deer and couldn't make it and that "she" had to put her van in the shop for 2 months. 2 months later "she" made another excuse and said that the shop didn't fix "her" van properly and it broke down on the highway and "she" had to get it towed. What a waste of 4 months membership!

I know there are real ones out there but I am more cautious and thanks to you guys, I can weed out the bad ones. If you guys encounter a real dating site with a real encounter where you get what you see, please let me know. Thanks.

DownUnder
04-26-06, 19:04
Anybody with any experience with this dating site - www.loveme.com ???
The site seems professional but it could still be a scam.

George90
04-26-06, 20:51
Anybody with any experience with this dating site - www.loveme.com ???
The site seems professional but it could still be a scam.

I have experience with that site. It is not a scam. It is a very legitimate organization. They have around 35,000 ladies in their databank. The vast majority are from Eastern Europe. The next biggest group is from Colombia, around 2,200. Thay also have profiles of ladies from the Philipines.

Thay also sponsor tours to Cartagena Colombia, St. Petersburg Russia, and a few other places.

Brotherrabitt
05-02-06, 11:51
Guys,

To sum my experiences up so far, these 3 sites seem to be 100 % free sites:

okcupid.com
plentyoffish.com
loveaccess.com

My usual hunting grounds is central europe, not many women from these parts acitive on forementioned sites. If any of you have any names for websites in CE, I would appreciate it.

Thanks

Pleasure

Brotherrabitt
05-02-06, 19:38
Sorry guys but also loveaccess.com does not allow you or thte recipient to open/read the emails you send them.

BS again !

Please let me know any other really free sites if you can.

Thanks

Pleasure

Organicgrowth
05-14-06, 00:05
Gentlemen,

If cybercupido.com has already been mentioned please forgive me. I have found a LOT OF SUCCESS with this provider of contacts (locally in Europe and in South America…..). I can tell you that I have registered 3 times simultaneously. 3 different handles based in 3 different countries (no lies as I have places to stay in all 3 of these EU countries… (paid for gold membership for a couple of months on each handle using same paypal account…).

I travel all over and so have a bank of chicas I know I can “call on”. I test the “loyalty” using the different accounts if you know what I mean… Making use of the presents (“regalo”) system has really opened doors (and legs…) for me on many many occasions… Remember these are virtual presents and cost you the points you get when you join!

Happy pen-pals!

Regards, Havanaman

Blake
06-15-06, 21:34
One such scam in AFF...
Darkseid,
AFF is not a scam as I had good success with AFF in Europe, the Far East and the Middle East.
However I would agree that most users are not for real but this is true to any free or semi-free site out there. A lot of pictures are also fake and that is why I never contact anyone that has what looks like a professionaly made picture. It took me some persistence and patience to be successfull on AFF but now I have a network of lovers worldwide.

Boofer
06-26-06, 13:44
did anybody try this site?

Boofer
06-26-06, 13:46
excuse me, jet lag is a killer. Please advise?

George90
06-28-06, 18:05
excuse me, jet lag is a killer. Please advise?

I have used LE. I met several nice women in Brazil using it. It is hit or miss in that many women move, get married, lose interest but are still in the LE profiles. I got a low percentage of responses. I didn't try the ladies from Colombia or DR.

I suggest you use LE as well as other agencies. Some others are My Latin Rose, My Latin Flame, My Foreign Bride, Cherry Blossoms, Latin Internet, Latin Love, A Foreign Affair, Brazil Girls, Brazil Romance. There a lots.

Old Mean Dog
07-22-06, 13:15
If you like Asian Girls, try:

www.blossoms.com
www.chnlove.com

I know these sites well, I have met a few girls from both of them, most want marriage, but will play for your interest.

Wild Child 1
08-19-06, 20:45
I remember coming across this a couple of years ago and thought it was pretty cool, but never went back.

So I was shocked to go back and see a Meet Me section now.

Very good fun indeed and well worth a bash, I chose China as I travel there a lot from the UK, and have about 5 potentials lined up, and seems like most are genuine photos in my opinion.

http://www.hotornot.com (beware, very addictive site)

Ford
08-29-06, 09:51
did anybody try this site?

Tried it for a while in 2004. Specifically to meet women in Honduras. Got a real low percentage of responses but the ones that did respond seemed very interested in me.

This suggests to me that many of the girls have moved, changed info but LE has not updated their files. Obviously, they continue to list these girls as availale under old, outdated home/email addreses.

cheers.................

Furiouz
08-29-06, 21:07
I remember coming across this a couple of years ago and thought it was pretty cool, but never went back.

So I was shocked to go back and see a Meet Me section now.

http://www.hotornot.com (beware, very addictive site)Damn you! I just lost 5 hours to this cursed site! Let us speak of this evil no more!

*goes back to rating lovelies all around the world*

Furiouz
09-03-06, 18:34
a man who buys a girl for 6500 € for example or rather between 4500 and 6000 €, do you really think that it is obviously possible or not and for which "use"? (marriage, common life, to make it work...) Not the fat man which bought it it will violate it 2 or 3 times and after direction the street to make profitable the investment. for which duration, in the more or less long term... in any case 6500 € it is not expensive for me if you have contact with this market please contact me in PM whole except if the girl from goes away the following day. Thanks to Bolkestein there will be always girls of the east who will come where France misses labour At worst with Easy Jet or another company low-cost you go to Eastern Europe for 3 times nothing When you see the living conditions of her family, is not necessary to be astonished that many girls of the east in Europe are quite voluntary and happy of their work of escort on our premises. It will be necessary to await tens of years so that these countries leave the disastrous situation in which Communism put. The things evolve/move (I saw the difference in 10 years in Poland), but the West remains still a eldorado for these girls. And then all the girls of the eastern europe are not inevitably in a network. When one sees the motivation and the quality of some, I doubt that one forces them to do what they do if somebody have buy a woman please write your comments here to help us.I am confused...why "buy" a woman, which I find particulary unsettling, when you can just offer a young cute miss a nice bedroom in an apartment by the beach and have her work for( or with) you that way. In the US she doesn't even have to escort...a cute, thin stripper will easily make 70k+ USD in a year. Shoot, gimme 30K of that for all my troubles, and you have a hot hot 20 year old from a 3rd world country that is making good money, living in a nice place and going to college.

Thoughts?

Furiouz
12-03-06, 11:31
Any experiances with http://www.latin-wife.com ?


Thanks.

Jeff46
12-03-06, 14:51
Why bying a woman?

so i can't register me for free on http://freepersonals.ru/search.php?gender=f

In Bosnia and Kosovo you can buy a woman for 1500$ (from Russia, Moldova or Ukrainia)!What or how do you mean buying a woman for 1500?

You pay and she go with you or what.

Please how is it working?

George90
12-03-06, 18:08
Any experiances with http://www.latin-wife.com ?


Thanks.

The owner of Latin Wife, a guy named Jaime, posts on Planet Love. That is a forum for guys looking for foreign wives and girlfriends. PL also has some posts by guys who have used various agencies with their comments.

If you jon PL and do a search on Laitn Wife you should be able to get manyuseful comments from guys who used that agency.

Good Luck

Furiouz
12-03-06, 19:05
The owner of Latin Wife, a guy named Jaime, posts on Planet Love. That is a forum for guys looking for foreign wives and girlfriends. PL also has some posts by guys who have used various agencies with their comments.

If you jon PL and do a search on Laitn Wife you should be able to get manyuseful comments from guys who used that agency.

Good Luck


Thanks for the reply. I normally would not join a dating site, but curiosity has gotten the best of me.

Cream on Top
12-13-06, 09:31
What or how do you mean buying a woman for 1500?

You pay and she go with you or what.

Please how is it working?

No that's the price to 'buy' so she is 'yours'. It is called woman trafficing. That's the pimp price for a whoe. For this money she will be working for you.
Nevertheless this is ol' news. It has been on TV, and a movie has been made of it. :-)

Van Velen
01-27-07, 11:31
For Russia I've found the following site. http://www.elenasmodels.com/ However, I fear that some of the girls there are fakes.

BTW Does anyone have any experience with adulfriendfinder? It looks really fake.

Wild Child 1
02-10-07, 01:02
Damn you! I just lost 5 hours to this cursed site! Let us speak of this evil no more!

*goes back to rating lovelies all around the world*HeHe

Told you it was addictive, I have had quite a few hits from there, and my buddy hits it up a few weeks before travelling to a country and is on about a 60% success rate.

Truster Gef
02-16-07, 04:43
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Geo Daddy
02-24-07, 15:39
I'm still researching Latin/Russian sites (as the scam factor in this is SO HIGH! )

But I have to say, in the 90s I used Cherry Blossoms (mail, not Internet site) and I found it to be very reputable. I got one outta every twenty letter responses, 90% were legit and "close" to their photo. But most (all? ) were marriage minded. That wasn't a problem for moi. But I found the cultural rift a bit to difficult to bridge.

G

Old Mean Dog
03-11-07, 03:42
I am the Director of a Marriage Agency in Shenzhen, China and we are partnered with one of the oldest and largest international marriage agencies in the world. If you are interested in finding a Chinese wife, please drop me a PM and we can talk.

Hotlicks
03-17-07, 02:02
For Russia I've found the following site. http://www.elenasmodels.com/ However, I fear that some of the girls there are fakes.

BTW Does anyone have any experience with adulfriendfinder? It looks really fake.AFF? I think most women there are escorts. That's what I have experienced after I initiated contact with couple gals. Sometimes reality just sucks.

George90
03-17-07, 18:51
Hello,

My name is Jacob and I have bad expiriance with dating sites.

Can some body recomend me good dating sites from Colombia and the Ukraine that the girls are real?



Can you tell us about some of the dating sites you have had bad experiences with? What was the specific experience that was bad?

George90
03-17-07, 18:54
AFF? I think most women there are escorts. That's what I have experienced after I initiated contact with couple gals. Sometimes reality just sucks.

Others have posted that AFF makes up fake profiles and puts pictures of porno actresses in them. I used them for a while several years ago. I got VERY few reponses and could confirm only 1 real person. Never met any in real life. There are too many other sites to bother with AFF.

Naked Gunz
03-18-07, 10:31
Can you tell us about some of the dating sites you have had bad experiences with? What was the specific experience that was bad?


AfroIntroductions...most profiles seem fake. I just chat with them when bored.
Then i type all sorts of profanities when I'm ready to call them out on their fake profiles or pic.

I've had GOOD luck with LatinEuro...Real women that want to hook up.

Bimbo Boy
03-18-07, 14:57
I have used LatinAmericanCupid. It's a serious site. nearly all women are real. I met and banged a few of them for free. However it's a big investment in time online and face to face. As the saying does "It always ends up more expensive when it's free".
Regards

Old Mean Dog
03-19-07, 11:31
If you are looking for girls (both good and bad) try www.chinapass.com seems to have a good mix from all over China.

Eric Smiti1971
03-31-07, 14:35
Does somebody use the service of this agency? www.youmemarriage.com?

Eric Smiti1971
03-31-07, 14:36
Does somebody use the service of this agency? www.youmemarriage.com

Takamine1
06-14-07, 13:32
Please be careful.

There are always a good amount of scammers in these dating websites, especially linked to Russia and Nigeria.

The Nigerian scammers are interesting to say the least...the ammount of Western girls who happen to be trapped in Nigeria is alarming!!. Their stories are more or less similar: they come from a Western country ( like the UK), their parents died, she decided to go to Nigeria (God knows why); somehow she got trapped there.

Generally speaking, these profiles are fake and probably involve a guy trying to hook naive suitors. Do not be taken in by their beauty-they're not there at all!

Their modus operandi is hook a guy, thinking they are in love and then try to find a way to send them money. When they asked me for money, I decided to be a cheeky bastard and told to send me a pic with their left hand over their left eye and their right hand on their hip LOL. One even had the cheek to say that she didn't have a camera.

So guys..be careful...don't part with your money in this way....and always take care

T

Oyenk
10-04-07, 12:13
Please be careful.

There are always a good amount of scammers in these dating websites, especially linked to Russia and Nigeria.

The Nigerian scammers are interesting to say the least...the ammount of Western girls who happen to be trapped in Nigeria is alarming!!. Their stories are more or less similar: they come from a Western country ( like the UK), their parents died, she decided to go to Nigeria (God knows why); somehow she got trapped there.

Generally speaking, these profiles are fake and probably involve a guy trying to hook naive suitors. Do not be taken in by their beauty-they're not there at all!

Their modus operandi is hook a guy, thinking they are in love and then try to find a way to send them money. When they asked me for money, I decided to be a cheeky bastard and told to send me a pic with their left hand over their left eye and their right hand on their hip LOL. One even had the cheek to say that she didn't have a camera.

So guys..be careful...don't part with your money in this way....and always take care

T
Correct bro...

Now those scammers are offering jobs in a commercial ship, we should send money for immigration around 250-300 USD...they pretend that they will provide the airline ticket etc etc.
I was wondering if they're able to buy ticket....how come they ask some money for immigration. This experience was happened to my friend, lucky he didin't send the money...

their target is asian men and women who have not gone abroad yet and working abroad !
they pretend to be a good lady from canada and have bad english for educated people from canada...I saw her handwritings.

cheers.

Johan007
10-12-07, 11:35
I have used LatinAmericanCupid. It's a serious site. nearly all women are real. I met and banged a few of them for free. However it's a big investment in time online and face to face. As the saying does "It always ends up more expensive when it's free".
Regards

The thing with Lac (Latinamericancupid)is that the women are in it for free. Sure they can't respond to your messages if they are NOT paid members...but they can use the chatroom. Men ALWAYS have to pay:-(
What i found funny is that many women send intrests and after you respond you never hear of them again...funny huh? So i guess they simply click away on the male profiles without realy watching or rading the profiles...LOL

Other bad point is that many latinas do NOT speak english at all. In their profile they sometimes lie about that.....I also even encountered several women that even lied about having kids!!!!

The chatroom itself is usualy filled up with older (30+ yo) women that usualy have issues with kids or ex-husbands. And are usualy more or less in financial troubles somehow.

Also keep in mind that many girls (especialy Brasilians,Paraguayans and Argentinians) ONLY "like to travel".....ie come to your country for 2-3 weeks....so this is very expensive. Offcourse they never pay their own tickets (soy pobre sabes....) For Europe these women do NOT need any visa is they stay UNDER 90 days...!!!!!

So be carefull out there. I been a member for nearly 1.5 years and lately I see more and more "rifraf" on LAC.

yes Russians,Nigerians,women from Senegal and Ghana aswell.....99% scammers. Don't fall for it.

And if some 23 yo hottie from the US sends me an intrest I surely know it's NOT for real;-)

But on the whole...LAC is a serious site for about 90%. Only things what bugs me is that is some nasty women complains about you (for whatever reason) your ass will get banned pretty quickly....And as most latinas do NOT understand english they get upset pretty easely if you speak english (or in fact any other non-spanish or Portugese language) in the chatroom. They just assume you are badmouthing them....LOL. Once i was discussing normal chirchat with another Dutch guy...and many latinas went beserk becoz they just didn't understand our langauge:-(

Other thing i would not do is giving out your email or hotmail address in the chatroom....you can expect tons of spam then:-( and/or even phising or fraud emails from all over the world.
And maybe that 43 yo "hottie"you realy do NOT want to add in your msn....LOL


Johan

Latin Bound
10-12-07, 12:43
Hello,

My name is Jacob and I have bad experience with dating sites.

Can some body recomend me good dating sites from Colombia and the Ukraine that the girls are real?

Thanks for any informeion.South of the Border is a good place to start for latin girls.

Latin Bound
10-12-07, 12:44
For Russia I've found the following site. http://www.elenasmodels.com/ However, I fear that some of the girls there are fakes.

BTW Does anyone have any experience with adulfriendfinder? It looks really fake.If you google it there is an article of an ex-employee that explains in detail how the AFF scam works.

Boy In Bubble
11-26-07, 20:09
I'm curious about guys mileage with dating sites for foreign women, but, where the woman lives here in the US. It seems like most of the foreign women on regular dating sites like Yahoo Personals are middle class upscale and looking for a Yuppie husband. Has anyone had success with the dating sites like FilipinoFriendFinder, AsianFriendFinder, PeruWhatever, with finding women who live in the US?
Here, by success I mean getting as far as meeting the woman in person, not necessarily scoring.

It occurs to me that a factor in whether a woman would choose to advertise in those places rather than Yahoo or Match is that some of those might be free for women? Or is Yahoo free for women too, at some level of membership?

My larger motivation here is that I do not want to do the mail-order-bride thing, when so many foreign born women are here already working as nurses aides, domestics, waitresses, whatever.

George90
11-26-07, 22:25
My larger motivation here is that I do not want to do the mail-order-bride thing, when so many foreign born women are here already working as nurses aides, domestics, waitresses, whatever.

The danger with your strategy is that foreign women already here are Americanized. Part of that means that they have many friends who have clued them into how to scam a man, claim battery, etc. so that they can get a greencard with staying married to you for the 2 years. Beware that there are scads of AW lawyers who make a living off of framing AMs for abuse of a foriegn born wife.

Too Jaded
12-31-07, 08:05
i am a good looking blond thirty-something, and posted an ad on latinamericancupid.com over a month ago.

it opens with the catchline "i will do you in the pooper, gently and lovingly, no donkey-punches...."

why isn't this working? i mean, what more could a woman want?

... okay, now seriously:

i actually have done fairly well on lac, but amigos.com is a completely different story. my profile is pretty normal, "nice guy likes latin culture, blah blah". i find the site confusingly laid out, and i have yet to meet a chica there that was anywhere close to normal; in fact it seems like it is basically just like aff which is not my style. has anyone had any success with this site? if so, what is the 411?

2j

Joker28
01-04-08, 05:34
Hello to all on the forum, i was seeing if anyone knows of this agency http://www.bendricks.com/? Is this a scam or are they the real deal.

Joker28
01-04-08, 05:56
Do anyone know if this is a scam agency?

http://www.bendricks.com/.

Too Jaded
01-13-08, 05:00
Even if it is not, you don't need it. I have been to both Costa Rica and Thailand, and the pussy is falling off the shelf in both places.

Just read the RODs for Bangkok and San Jose.

Chinese Jezebel
02-12-08, 14:28
Okcupid.com, at least I and my friend find this site reliable and useful to some degree. You might meet good and bad people. Half chance, but worth to try.

Travel Dude II
02-22-08, 04:31
For me, they are too costly. I found a personal ad placement service that advertises you in Latin America. What they do is place your personal ad that you send them and place it in newspapers in specific cities in Latin America.

For me its much cheaper than dating agencies and you can receive lots of letters from Latin women. This site is not for ads for sex but for romance, dating or marriage. Anyway the site is:

www.LatinPersonalAds.com

Travel Dude II
02-22-08, 04:35
Any experiances with http://www.latin-wife.com ?

ThanksReally, I know most dating sites from Colombia but I never heard of this one. I would check more into this agency before paying any money.

Mr Mundo
02-22-08, 19:42
South of the Border is a good place to start for latin girls.One point about South Of The Border (SOTB). They are a subcontractor for other dating agencies which means they charge more for romance tours because they work with different companies.

I am in the process of looking into other Latin romance sites and will give you my opinion.

Kcrl01
02-24-08, 15:35
I've had real good luck with these. Met a girl on www.LatinEuro.com in 2004, we still chat on-line, I take her out to dinner every now and then when I'm in Rio de Janiero.

Met several ladies on www.BrazilCupid.com. One I met in '06 lives in Sao Paulo, she flies to Rio de Janeiro (at her own expense) to spend the weekends with me when I'm there. She has to be back in SP on Monday for work.

She's a keeper, not a GDP, has a real job, college educated. I've met her parents, been a guest in her family home many times (I have to sleep on the floor, the place is small by US standards), I'm also an investor in her familie's micro-business (it's a chocolate factory, I don't really care about seeing a profit, but the US$1000 I gave her dad allowed him to employ five people and replace some machinery).

If I ever get married (again) it will be her!!!!!

Romano V
02-24-08, 20:44
# • Barbie.com.ua
# • Compatible One.com
# • Interdating.ua
# • Love Gala.net
# • UK Anastasia International.com
# • Ukraine Date.com

Mr Mundo
02-26-08, 01:24
For me, they are too costly. I found a personal ad placement service that advertises you in Latin America. What they do is place your personal ad that you send them and place it in newspapers in specific cities in Latin America.

For me its much cheaper than dating agencies and you can receive lots of letters from Latin women. This site is not for ads for sex but for romance, dating or marriage. Anyway the site is:

www.LatinPersonalAds.comYeah I have heard of this service. They have been around for 4 or 5 years and from what I have heard, do a good job on advertising men in newspapers overseas.

I wish this site would place personal ads in the Philippines but I guess they are focused on single Latin women in Latin America.

I would recommend this web site for single guys looking for the "low cost" alternative of Latin dating agencies or romance tours.

Romano V
03-26-08, 21:30
Dating websites for FREE in Moldova,

Here some dating links :

http://www.ero.md/ - in russian
http://www.faces.md - in romanian
http://www.ilove.md/ - in romanian
http://www.loveme.md/?language=english - in english

With my links you will have space to find a wife from Moldova again. They love Americans and Europeans.

Aventino68
06-21-08, 02:31
Have to agree. I'm on about 15 websites myself and I'm in Hong Kong. If the website isn't free then don't bother. What I mean is at the end of the day you both need to speak the same language or translators and agencies step in and things get expensive. There are some good agencies out there but you need to tread carefully. Haven't seen a relationship with a 20 year age gap work yet either so you need to be realistic too.

DJ FourMoney
06-21-08, 12:34
Romo I tried some of those links and I will have to use a translator....

I estimate less than 2% of the women on any Eastern European web site is interested in a Brotha from the US, though I could be wrong... ;)

The Sex Hunter
07-05-08, 20:01
Here we go and date a nice Latin Girl! .-)))

www.latinamericancupid.com

Lima Busy
07-21-08, 00:16
Here we go and date a nice Latin Girl! .-)))

www.latinamericancupid.com
I was on this site years ago and met my current wife there before I moved to Peru. It was a free site back then and I was probably the first "principe azul" they had!

A few of the ISG that live here (LIMA) use the site with a lot of luck and have more chicas than they can handle. They also use latinlovesearch as well.

My personal view is it is better to live in country when you use these sites, but it works as well if you convince them you are only coming down to see them and get to know the country,culture,blah,blah
suerte,
LB

The Sex Hunter
10-01-08, 06:26
Hello

I have been looking on Craigslist and other sites on the I-net where pros advertise. I like to know what is the best way to get them down with there prices?

Thanks for help!
The Sex Hunter

Dr X Man
12-31-08, 07:05
In the old days, affairs had to be conducted by actually leaving our homes and carrying on a secret second life. Now, it seems, our partners can literally carry on a second life right from their comfort of their home. Online. In fact, earlier this year, David Pollard’s marriage ended when his Amy caught his online character having an affair with Linda Brinkley’s online character on Second Life, the online computer game where players create a, well, second life, for their online characters (called avatars). BTW, guess where Pollard met his first wife? Online, of course. They even celebrated their union with a virtual marriage. On Second Life. Get out more people!

Docholiday101
07-07-09, 23:36
I had trouble understanding this menu toward the end...Does anyone know what is being offered after GREEK dancing? Please help.

GFE – Good Friendly Entertainment

LFK – Latin French Kick (new)

DFK - Danish French Kick (new)

BBBJ - Basic Black Ballroom and Jazz

DATY - Dancercise And Tap Yourself

CIM – Complete Instruction in Modern Dance (dancer like a tip for this type instruction)

MSOG – Modern Swing Only Guys (dancer like a tip for this type instruction)

No Greek dancing available

*The 5 Basic Positions of Ballet?

*Step-by-step Alignment and Points?

*How to Hold Your Hands?

*Head Position and Gaze ?

*Positions of the Arms?

Gangles
07-18-09, 15:12
Gentlemen, I have RTFF looking for successful dating sites for Ghana in particular, but also Eritrea and Ethiopia. But I haven't been able to find a single site.

I have found afrointroductions, but that is all.

I am sure there are many.

Can anyone help?

Gangles

Laser Eye
07-20-09, 04:51
Google Ghananet. In the classifieds section there is a, women seeking men,
section. I have no other info about the authenticity of the adds,but it is a start.

LE

Jon32
07-22-09, 13:31
Amigos.com seems to have no members now. Any good ones for brazil besides brazilcupid?

Miglvoz9
08-06-09, 08:51
A "403 Fobidden" error message came up when I went to the site.

Jon32
09-20-09, 15:07
What's up with this thread? Anyone got any good sites...

Johnnydh
10-04-09, 00:41
Has anyone used [url]www.europedates.com??[/url

Is it a scam-site or are they for real?

I'm very tempted to sign up as a member (96 Euro/yr) and fly one of these hotties into town.

Jon32
10-31-09, 11:40
Has anyone used [url]www.europedates.com??[/url

Is it a scam-site or are they for real?

I'm very tempted to sign up as a member (96 Euro/yr) and fly one of these hotties into town.


The city i searched didnt look good...but also these are excorts you know?

DJ FourMoney
11-01-09, 05:44
What's up with this thread? Anyone got any good sites...

What are you looking for?

Depending on where you looking I think its safe to say effective web sites have been talked about before in those specific are threads.

But more clarity on your part in this thread would help...

Jon32
11-10-09, 23:13
What are you looking for?

Depending on where you looking I think its safe to say effective web sites have been talked about before in those specific are threads.

But more clarity on your part in this thread would help...


Well amigos.com used to be such a great site ... for about all of south america. Where did the girls go?

Member #4351
11-10-09, 23:26
As someone who long ago was ranked number 38 for messages received from chicas in all of South America (shows you how easy things were back then), I imagine that they have gotten married and are fat and living in the States or Europe, or are on Hi5 or Badoo. They have certainly gotten much more picky as far as the guys they are interested in goes. I dipped my toe in the water with a Colombian site, no young cuties messaged me, only got nibbles from age 30+.

Jon32
11-13-09, 23:24
As someone who long ago was ranked number 38 for messages received from chicas in all of South America (shows you how easy things were back then), I imagine that they have gotten married and are fat and living in the States or Europe, or are on Hi5 or Badoo. They have certainly gotten much more picky as far as the guys they are interested in goes. I dipped my toe in the water with a Colombian site, no young cuties messaged me, only got nibbles from age 30+.


Ugh, depressing...

Member #4351
11-14-09, 00:27
I suggest you consider the Philippine chica sites. They have no age problems...kind of like South America used to be.

DJ FourMoney
11-19-09, 21:55
as someone who long ago was ranked number 38 for messages received from chicas in all of south america (shows you how easy things were back then), i imagine that they have gotten married and are fat and living in the states or europe, or are on hi5 or badoo. they have certainly gotten much more picky as far as the guys they are interested in goes. i dipped my toe in the water with a colombian site, no young cuties messaged me, only got nibbles from age 30+.

that is mostly seen are their economies getting better, whiles ours get progressively worst.

as is often said around here, america has long been seen as the "land of plenty"

the internet has largely shattered that reality, sat/cable tv and international travel only peeled back the skin so to speak.

we've seen it in eastern europe, as the economic opportunities increase/improve, less women are considering "the nuclear option"

south america is no different. look at brazil, do you think americans would have celebrated getting awarded the summer olympics as much as they have? as far as i know the excitement has only recently slowed down.

but i'm not a "glass half empty" person. as more people become jaded and disheartened, that creates a more sophisticated market. meaning when just being white and american largely allowed you have the pick of the litter, its become much more diffcult to find success.

depending on your definition of "success" of course.

this being a dating thread, is there an "end game" involved?

DJ FourMoney
11-19-09, 21:59
I suggest you consider the Philippine chica sites. They have no age problems...kind of like South America used to be.

Some Eastern Europeans don't have age issues... Its becoming less likely as the days go by but not overtly diffcult either.

The last EE girls I have been or continue to be in contact with -

Prague - 24
Siberia - 25
Ukraine - 23

I'm 39, but often mistaken to be mid 20's. They don't have a problem with my age or my skin color, go figure...

Wicked Roger
11-29-09, 18:08
Some Eastern Europeans don't have age issues... Its becoming less likely as the days go by but not overtly diffcult either.

The last EE girls I have been or continue to be in contact with -

Prague - 24
Siberia - 25
Ukraine - 23

I'm 39, but often mistaken to be mid 20's. They don't have a problem with my age or my skin color, go figure...
Agree with David_33...the Filipina sites, while admittedly having LB and scammers, tend to prefer older guys.

Case in point...my current squeeze is 18 and am over 50 (often mistaken to be very kinky and naughty :D), also been with 2 under 21 in the last few days plus have another two under 20 waiting for me in Manila

Of course you have to like Asian girls to start with...happily for me I do (well Filipinas)

DJ FourMoney
11-29-09, 18:17
Agree with David_33...the Filipina sites, while admittedly having LB and scammers, tend to prefer older guys.

Case in point...my current squeeze is 18 and am over 50 (often mistaken to be very kinky and naughty :D), also been with 2 under 21 in the last few days plus have another two under 20 waiting for me in Manila

Of course you have to like Asian girls to start with...happily for me I do (well Filipinas)

Well Roger I'll be making my way down to the islands sometime in the near future. A co-worker is from there and is planning on visiting his extended family.

I just don't have a "thing" for Asian women that however doesn't mean I can't appreciate beauty. There's no better scenery in the world than a good looking woman...

Black Spidey
12-03-09, 06:42
Looking for some good dating sites in the UAE?

The Cane
06-14-11, 14:18
What's the current state of affairs regarding dating agencies/sites for meeting Brazilian girls? Any good ones out there? On my last trip, a garota told me that I should get an Orkut account, but I have not heard a lot of good about Orkut for quite some time.

IndoAussie
07-12-11, 14:25
Can someone recommend a good site for getting into NSA relationships or for finding independents in Australia?

Sponsor74
10-08-11, 14:15
Agree with David_33. The Filipina sites, while admittedly having LB and scammers, tend to prefer older guys.

Case in point. My current squeeze is 18 and am over 50 (often mistaken to be very kinky and naughty.) , also been with 2 under 21 in the last few days plus have another two under 20 waiting for me in Manila.

Of course you have to like Asian girls to start with. Happily for me I do (well Filipinas) Hello, I ave some experiences with Thailand and Ukraine and honestly prefer women from Ukraine but regarding country I prefer Thailand. The best a Ukraine girl in Thailand. Regarding age for me ONLY as from 18 in order to avoid legal issues and bot countries offer big chances. Price is also important and Thailand is still cheap and Ukraine getting expensive. Maybe we have to find new destinations, but my preferences are the blong yound and sexy

Brain666
10-08-11, 14:38
I was on this site years ago and met my current wife there before I moved to Peru. It was a free site back then and I was probably the first "principe azul" they had!

A few of the ISG that live here (LIMA) use the site with a lot of luck and have more chicas than they can handle. They also use latinlovesearch as well.

My personal view is it is better to live in country when you use these sites, but it works as well if you convince them you are only coming down to see them and get to know the country, culture, blah, blah.

Suerte,

LBI can confirm this from koreancupid site as well.

Having ideal circumstances being alone in Seoul, I had tremendous success with 28 (!) women in 10 months. Those are mostly 30-40 though and regulars having to 50% pertnership / marriage. Great success and great fucks of regulars. Now my assignment ended and I am back home having almost no extra experience. What a diffreence. But luckily wife is ok.

Regards.

Brain666

Darius3456
11-14-11, 13:07
Hi,

Does anyone have any recent / updated info on good agencies / websites other than LatinAmericancupid, Dominicancupid, etc.

Also, some time ago, there was someone here that placed personal ads in newspapers is various countries, I think his name was Tom but he is since moved on to other things. Any info on a new service that will place an ad in a newspaper?

Thanks

NowDen1
11-26-11, 21:14
My first post.

Which is the best way to connect with girls from Eastern Europian girls (Ukrainian, Romanian, Polish) for dates.

Padd

Johnny1000
12-06-11, 00:57
I can confirm this from koreancupid site as well.

Having ideal circumstances being alone in Seoul, I had tremendous success with 28 (!) women in 10 months. Those are mostly 30-40 though and regulars having to 50% pertnership / marriage. Great success and great fucks of regulars. Now my assignment ended and I am back home having almost no extra experience. What a diffreence. But luckily wife is ok.

Regards.

Brain666Were those korean women into for action only? I moved here in seoul recently and I am not willing to go through the usual long dating etc. I would rather have something discreet but thought that it would be hard to find with korean women. I'll check this site then.

If you have any tips about what those korean women like to hear and read they would be appreciated.

NicFrenchy
05-27-12, 10:36
I have a lot of Success in Thailand from 2 very Free Sites:

1. Tagged.

2. Badoo.

Both have apps that you can load to your smartphone and can check "on the Go"

BrasilSoccer0
06-12-12, 14:06
I hope this helps. For FSU countries like Ukraine, Belarus. Etc I think mamba. Ru is the only legit ENGLISH site.

What do you all think?


My first post.

Which is the best way to connect with girls from Eastern Europian girls (Ukrainian, Romanian, Polish) for dates.

Padd

MaxStar
07-02-12, 09:01
Anybody know of any sites to find middle eastern women.

Any hop would be much appreciated.

MaxStar
07-02-12, 09:56
Anybody know of any sites to find middle eastern women.

Any hop would be much appreciated.

Kelong Jimmy
08-29-12, 16:15
Anybody know of any sites to find middle eastern women.

Any hop would be much appreciated.Try www.muslima.com

I think most aren't looking for the game, but you can try. Let us know how it goes.

Dubman30
12-25-12, 17:03
Anybody know any real info and experience about this site? Ilovelatins generally in Baranquilla Colombia run by some dude named Sam whose from Texas. What the deal with this? Hes got lots and lots of hot Colombianas! Looks like a lot of fun but really is it just women lookin love or for a green cards?

NicFrenchy
12-26-12, 03:26
Finally took the plunge, more out of curiosity than anything else.

I paid for a Gold membership to TLL http://www.thailovelinks.com/

Since then, a lot of ladies contact me and some are up for sex on the first date.

Muata8
01-20-13, 19:16
Newbie to ISG. This is my first lengthy report. Much respect to Jackson & all the senior members. Thanks to my friend Patentdog for hipping me to this veritable font of due diligence.

I've RTFF and the amount of practical, real-world info across all boards is mind-boggling. Wish I have some of it before I busted the financial mongering curve in Accra for GFE, LOL. (More on that in another post there.)

Joined Afro Intro on Nov. 27, 2012 at the Gold level for 3 months at $59. 00. My focus is on African women and I will be in Ghana again next month (dates not quite set yet-will let the Ghana board know in advance) so I'm collecting phone #s. My report is as of Jan. 20, 2013.

-I viewed profiles of 852 women.

-798 women are interested in me.

-294 women have viewed my profile.

-I'm a 'favorite' of 78 women.

-I've gotten 147 emails from women around the world (except Ghana-that's tracked separately).

-I've gotten 75 emails just from women in Ghana.

-I've sent emails to 164 women. (Cut & paste my contact info & flattery & just fill in the name)

CAVEATS:

-I'm a Black American. Obviously this analysis is written from that perspective. I don't know how the variable of race plays into this (we all know money, or the perception of relative wealth vs. The women, is the most critical variable). But when I meet some of the women personally, I'll try to find out what impact race & natural origin (stereotypical big-spending American?) is a factor in their interest in me.

-Note that I'm a 'culture vulture' at heart. I like the process of trying to understand how other people live. I don't do FFFF or ST- I'm a GFE guy who wants to have the proverbial 'woman in every port' so they prepositioned when I arrive. That's what I intend to use AfroIntro for.

-Budget is important. I'll stay within the mongering range-probably toward the top. But I'm spending thousands to travel to Africa for the premium GFE and cultural experiences I can't easily or inexpensively get in America. A few extra cedis / shillings / CFAs on the high end of the range is a small price to pay for what I want in the time I have to get it. No apologies for that. (It would be a different story if I lived in Africa.)

-For purposes of this report, assume the women I've met online are real. (I know about all the online dating scams. No need to warn me about getting a girl to pretending to be on webcam and calling a guy's phone who hands it to his girlfriend.) The only way to confirm is via an in-person meeting. I intend to do that.

-I'll write a FR including post-game analysis after my next Ghana trip. That will give us all some idea of how AfroIntro can work as a primary strategy.

Some conclusions from this experience, in random order:

-Pictures seem to make a substantial difference. I uploaded 5 of the best, clearest pix I've taken in the last 2 years or so (clean-shaven & looking my best) in some of the more exotic places around the world.

-Clearly only a fraction of women actually read the profile. I know this because (1) when they contact me or I chat with them, they are asking questions that are clearly answered in my profile, or (2) their personal statements indicate they may have English language difficulties, so reading may be an issue. Given the disparity between the number who viewed my profile (294) vs. The number 'interested' (798) they obviously clicked 'interested' based on the picture, not on the profile.

-I had to organize myself or get overwhelmed by contacts. I've used Afro's email 'filter' to separate Ghana & non-Ghana responses. Also, everybody uses aliases and it's easy to get confused with a large number of responses when real names don't match aliases. I set up a separate folder on my Macbook Pro for each woman I'm interested in. Afro has a 'print' function that I use to keep track of email; I print and save as a PDF-it's usually a 1-page document. The woman's file also includes any pictures she sends me. (On a Mac you can also print her profile and save as a pdf, but it's not printer-friendly.) Some of you may use contact management software to better organize yourselves, but this works for me.

-Most African women seem to be on Yahoo and use the instant message service there. Get a Yahoo account if you don't have one. (Google also has one, but Yahoo seems more popular. I have accounts on both.)

-You should set Yahoo I'm preference / messaging to 'Enable Messaging Archive' which keeps a written record of your I'm conversation. That's helps efficiency-you can review what you said to the woman in previous conversations. It also helped me to 'drop dime' on an Afro scammer asking for money. I cut & paste the conversation & reported abuse to Afro. The scammer was promptly removed.

- It's best to contact an Afro prospect there then move the contact off Afro to either email or I'm. That way you are not tied to Afro in case you decide not to renew. By the time my subscription expires, I'll have all critical info in my own files. I can decide then if I'll resubscribe or work off the list I've compiled.

-I'm trying to use Google Translate to communicate with some fine-ass Cameroonian & Ivorian women who only speak French. Note that AfroIntro has a Platinum plan that will translate for you. But given how bad the translation that comes with the Gold plan is when you look at a woman's non-English profile, I'm skeptical Afro's Platinum plan is any better.

RANDOM OBSERVATIONS:

-The net is the best thing to happen to a lot of these women-or guys posing as women. They could talk you out of your dirty drawers (and your bank account) if you let them. I know some guys (like Manti Te'o / Notre Dame) are getting 'catfished' by either guys up late at night or by slick women.

-You see some ridiculous profiles & pix-an African woman living in Russia who is 4 feet 9 inches tall, weighs 315 pounds of Asian ethnicity and speaks Pashto and who has Kerry Washington's picture as 'her. ' One chica also uploaded a pic of her in a hospital bed in an ob / gyn hospital gown. Not very sexy.

-Women are crazy, desperate, or both all over the world. One cussed me out via instant message 'cause I told her we "trust but verify" in America & I wouldn't send her money before I met her. (I would have slipped it in her tight jeans after knocking dem boots in Accra, LOL. But she couldn't wait.)

-Want to know if you have a scammer or golddigger? Wait long enough. 'I need money for webcam sex / school / sick mama / kid's school fees / start my business / cook for you when you get here. ' Deleted. One asked for $ after a few I'm sessions, then she apologized. Is she working me for 'the long con' in Africa, LOL? We'll find out.

-I ask to see them on webcam. Those who can (a relatively few in this experience) will. Those that can't won't, but won't react adversely once you explain why. I then webcam myself so they know I'm a 'real man' and put the burden on them to reciprocate. Suspected scammers go into 'don't you trust me' as an excuse to stop contact and move to the next 'mark. '

-African men have lied to, cheated / scammed on & beaten so many of them that it's easy for us to get with African women. Being American / non-African is a great advantage, though many of them think America is a savage country full of guns and drugs. (IMHO, they aren't completely wrong, but that's another conversation).

-Hair 'weave' from Asian & European women is all over the planet on Black women's heads if they are age 35 or under. Also have seen a few tattoos, but not many.

-Big sunglasses that look like lab glasses we used to wear in biology classes in the '70s are now the fashion. So are big-ass knockoff flea market handbags.

-Every African woman thinks she is "extremely attractive" no matter what she really looks like. I find such emotional security refreshing, given the insecure pathological mindset of almost every American woman who's been my significant other.

-Older Black women, especially Americans, hate that I'm advertising for younger women. I've been cussed out by a few via email. Plenty of snide comments from them.

-Women from Cameroon seem to have the biggest natural tits on Afro, at least from looking at pictures I've seen. That's my weakness. BTW, my mother did DNA testing and we found out Cameroon (Bamilike) is in our genetic background. I'll discover my roots and suck some big naturals on the same trip, so Cameroon is now higher on my list.

-I can now get a phone number within 20 seconds of online conversation. I flatter them, talk game, and crack a joke or two. But nuanced, cultural or sarcastic humor doesn't convey well online or via email.

-When I first got started, I made a special appointment for an online chat with a great prospect. She stood me up, I got upset, and blew the opportunity when I took it personally and ragged her about 'standing me up. ' I forgot that 'shit happens' in Africa all the time. And I'm dealing with the culture of 'time' in Africa, not America. Old Africa hands know what I mean.

-I'm starting to like big, thick African girls with real curves-I'm used to the taller, more athletic ones here in America. I'm 6'4'.225 pounds, and going to try a big 'un out in Accra and see if I like the experience. A cute one with the online name "juicypussy" sent me a pix of her face and her bent-over ass in a thong; I asked her to send a pic so I can recognize the rest of her if I meet her, LOL.

-Jiggydus, I'm planning a long-term trip and I may retrace your steps in East Africa. Please PM your contact so we can talk, if you don't mind. Much respect to you, bro.

Thanks all. A FR for my first p4p trip to St. Maarten will be forthcoming on that board.

Also will analyze Badoo and Tagged once I put in some time in on those sites.

Muata8

Ganesha
01-26-13, 01:38
You even get 'Interested' or 'Favorite' messages, when you are 'Standard Member' (no right to contact anybody on AfroIntroductions) , don't have a 'Photo' and a 'Hidden Profile'. Many of the fake profiles are easy to detect, since given information is contradictorary or beyond any 'normal perception' (e. G. : The 20 year old girl with an Ph. D.).

To use this site properly, You really need to do your homework in advance long before travelling, to sort out whatever you are NOT looking for. If the selection you are going to meet really corresponded to your exspectations, hopefully you will tell us after your return!

Good luck, fellow!

JayaPapaya
02-14-13, 11:58
My first post.

Which is the best way to connect with girls from Eastern Europian girls (Ukrainian, Romanian, Polish) for dates.

PaddOne of the best places to start is this site: www.slavic-companions.com

TonyIndian
02-28-13, 16:29
Does anyone know if she escorts? Which talent company is she signed up with for the videos?

LukeBuring
04-15-13, 10:12
One of the best places to start is this site:

www.slavic-companions.comHi,

I saw the site and it is pretty cool. But if ever do you have branch located in Australia?

SexGuide99
11-29-13, 15:11
Hi,

I saw the site and it is pretty cool. But if ever do you have branch located in Australia?Looking forward to finding more sites like this. They probably don't have the Aussie version.

WanderTheWorld
02-25-14, 13:48
Looking forward to finding more sites like this. They probably don't have the Aussie version.I came accross this site.

http://www.wikisexguide.com/wiki/Istanbul

It seems like the links and information seems reliable about my city.

The links in the wiki show you the prices in Istanbul 250Euros for foreign escorts. Also the comments are definitely true:

"Here is some comments about Red-light district from one visitor:

I have just been through both streets and on Kadem Street the guard wanted money to let me in. I went to walk away and he then relented and let me in. I must say it was one of the most revolting places I have ever visited and the girls where dare I say it ugly. I would strongly recommend not bothering going to these two streets. My description can only be summed up as 'it's a sewer' there was however a nice guy serving chi : 02/2014."

"Istanbul has quite a few notorious sex clubs, but many people who visit them get RIPPED OFF."

I haven't reviewed every link but a neatly organized page would help a lot.

You can find Australia here.

http://www.wikisexguide.com/wiki/Australia

Iceberg27
02-25-14, 23:24
I came accross this site.

http://www.wikisexguide.com/wiki/Istanbul

It seems like the links and information seems reliable about my city.

The links in the wiki show you the prices in Istanbul 250Euros for foreign escorts. Also the comments are definitely true:

"Here is some comments about Red-light district from one visitor:

I have just been through both streets and on Kadem Street the guard wanted money to let me in. I went to walk away and he then relented and let me in. I must say it was one of the most revolting places I have ever visited and the girls where dare I say it ugly. I would strongly recommend not bothering going to these two streets. My description can only be summed up as 'it's a sewer' there was however a nice guy serving chi : 02/2014."

"Istanbul has quite a few notorious sex clubs, but many people who visit them get RIPPED OFF."

I haven't reviewed every link but a neatly organized page would help a lot.

You can find Australia here.

http://www.wikisexguide.com/wiki/AustraliaSo you are still enough encouraged to go Ukraine?

WanderTheWorld
02-26-14, 19:34
So you are still enough encouraged to go Ukraine?Well I have to go for business. A colleague working in Donetsk told us that there is not much risk involved in our trip and that the company is not exposed too much to current events. They said Donetsk is in the east part in which people mostly support the current government. I will still read the news next week and make the final decision then. Right now though it seems like it won't be canceled.

I am in Turkey, you and I both know we have lived through such an event recently. I'm not saying that both are same but we were in the middle of it. So as long as we try to stay away from such activities I think we will be okay.

Iceberg can you confirm the wiki page?

Iceberg27
02-26-14, 21:45
Well I have to go for business. A colleague working in Donetsk told us that there is not much risk involved in our trip and that the company is not exposed too much to current events. They said Donetsk is in the east part in which people mostly support the current government. I will still read the news next week and make the final decision then. Right now though it seems like it won't be canceled.

I am in Turkey, you and I both know we have lived through such an event recently. I'm not saying that both are same but we were in the middle of it. So as long as we try to stay away from such activities I think we will be okay.

Iceberg can you confirm the wiki page?Actually I can't because I have never been in Donetsk.

I have been in Kiev, Kharkov and Evpatoria.

The things written in Wikisex page looks hillarious.

Having bath with a stripper!

Just go, check and report back.

Good luck!

MapesK
11-20-14, 21:48
I came accross this site.

http://www.wikisexguide.com/wiki/Istanbul

It seems like the links and information seems reliable about my city.

The links in the wiki show you the prices in Istanbul 250Euros for foreign escorts. Also the comments are definitely true:

"Here is some comments about Red-light district from one visitor:

I have just been through both streets and on Kadem Street the guard wanted money to let me in. I went to walk away and he then relented and let me in. I must say it was one of the most revolting places I have ever visited and the girls where dare I say it ugly. I would strongly recommend not bothering going to these two streets. My description can only be summed up as 'it's a sewer' there was however a nice guy serving chi : 02/2014."..]Yes. Kadem and Zurafa street are both very annoying because every time you go there in case you are not a Turkish citizen, the guard will ask money. Most of the time they will ask something like 50 liras. Just ignore them, in case there are some Turkish people near by, pretend dum and ask them what guard wants. Usually the guard will feel ashamed and let you in. If there are no people nearby, just don't pay to the guard and after 5 minutes he will let you in. But remember you need to have an passport to get in. Price is 35 TL, but most of the times girls ask you tips right after you get to the room.

Big Ass Eater
09-21-15, 20:32
Just out of curiosity, did any member of this site marry a working girl?

DJ FourMoney
10-02-15, 06:12
Just out of curiosity, did any member of this site marry a working girl?Country John is one, still married last I heard.

WanderTheWorld
02-15-16, 20:19
I see from time to time this ad on the forum: http://teenescort.net/.

Is it a reliable site, or is it randomly brrought up and should not be trusted?

JoelR
04-19-16, 20:17
I've heard a lot of bad references about dating websites. There are so many scam ones that I don't even know if it is possible to date a real girl online nowadays. Maybe you guys can recommend me something?

SomeBilly123
07-15-16, 04:14
I was in Hawaii a few months ago and ran across this site called Localflirt.com. I registered for free which only allows you to click the flirt button but it will not allow you to send PMs unless you are a paid member. If it is legit it looks promising as it appears to be a one night stand type of place not a escort classifieds place. Curious if anyone took the plunge and paid in, and if you had any success.

Woodypussy1967
09-07-16, 17:37
Any update for Europe?

Big Boss Man
03-04-17, 18:34
Anyone know if the massageroom.com girls are available for dating? Who would be the contact? I am especially interested in having a session with Uma.

Hoka87
04-27-17, 01:45
Anyone knows a trusted agency in Cairo Egypt? PM me.

Swpc10
07-04-17, 17:13
Not sure where to put this, but lately if I try to access Backpage for international, it goes to us. backpage.com.

Anyone else having this problem?

Zorp 001
08-06-17, 03:22
Does anyone know a dating site where you can meet European women? Real women, not fake accounts. I've been on too many fake and scam dating websites to count. Can be either free or paid (if the website is reliable).

IGoHomeNow
09-25-17, 07:57
Not sure where to put this, but lately if I try to access Backpage for international, it goes to us. backpage.com.

Anyone else having this problem?BP blocked for services in US. Use TOR browser. It generates random IP address, which will probably not be in US.

BP web server looks at fake address and is fooled.

ErnestCulpX
07-18-18, 08:29
Hello!

I see that the thread is a bit stopped, but I have a question to see if you could help me. I understand that this conversation is to find dating agencies, but they have nothing to do with brothels. I have been alone for a long time and I would like to take a little more step to see if I am lucky, can someone guide me to go through the UK?

Thank you!

JohnReter335
06-28-20, 02:12
Hello!

I see that the thread is a bit stopped, but I have a question to see if you could help me. I understand that this conversation is to find dating agencies, but they have nothing to do with brothels. I have been alone for a long time and I would like to take a little more step to see if I am lucky, can someone guide me to go through the UK?

Thank you!You are asking this 1 year later.

MoneySign
07-12-20, 18:51
You are asking this 1 year later.You are even worse. You responded to his question 2 years later. LOL.

The Dating agencies have become obsolete. It seems like they are so yesterday. Has anyone noticed that?

Alabastern
08-25-20, 14:32
If a rich guy would want to fuck nines and tens without wanting wasting time experimenting a lot of the bad stuff out there to find gems. He wants to go to the gems directly.

In this scenario going to luxury dating agencies like Ivana models should be the best way to go about it, right? If not what would you suggest?

Steve 9696
08-25-20, 23:01
If a rich guy would want to fuck nines and tens without wanting wasting time experimenting a lot of the bad stuff out there to find gems. He wants to go to the gems directly.

In this scenario going to luxury dating agencies like Ivana models should be the best way to go about it, right? If not what would you suggest?Guessing you are US? Short answer is go somewhere else. The US pro girls selection is lame at any price compared to other countries. London. Frankfurt. São Paulo. Tokyo. Anywhere but here.

Alabastern
08-26-20, 17:29
Guessing you are US? Short answer is go somewhere else. The US pro girls selection is lame at any price compared to other countries. London. Frankfurt. So Paulo. Tokyo. Anywhere but here.No EU. Still the question stands, if one would like to fuck tens straight away. Would luxury agents be the best alternative?

Mind you when I say tens I mean like Victoria secret level of attraction. Many guys rate girls a ten way too easy, in my view only 1 percent of the girls are tens. Meaning a campus with 5000 students only 20-30 girls can be rated to be to true tens. That's in the real world, in the escort world the girls are on average uglier, so a ten is even harder to find.

Akibono
08-27-20, 03:59
No EU. Still the question stands, if one would like to fuck tens straight away. Would luxury agents be the best alternative?

Mind you when I say tens I mean like Victoria secret level of attraction. Many guys rate girls a ten way too easy, in my view only 1 percent of the girls are tens. Meaning a campus with 5000 students only 20-30 girls can be rated to be to true tens. That's in the real world, in the escort world the girls are on average uglier, so a ten is even harder to find.High end escort provides ladies who are educated, have social skills, and are reliable. You may find tens but that is not always the case. In many cases, they are older and more mature. While young escorts have looks, service may suffer. Your best bet is to get a hold of a good agency and specify your requirements. They will let you know the lookers when they are available. Some of the nicer girls are never advertised on the sites and are only available to select repeat clients.

Alabastern
08-29-20, 00:19
High end escort provides ladies who are educated, have social skills, and are reliable. You may find tens but that is not always the case. In many cases, they are older and more mature. While young escorts have looks, service may suffer. Your best bet is to get a hold of a good agency and specify your requirements. They will let you know the lookers when they are available. Some of the nicer girls are never advertised on the sites and are only available to select repeat clients.If looks is the top priority, what would you suggest to do to find those tens?

Akibono
08-29-20, 06:17
If looks is the top priority, what would you suggest to do to find those tens?The sad but short answer is to get girls to recruit for you. Find a pretty girls and ask if she has friends. Say they must be hot. Promise bounty or threesome as incentive.

Alabastern
08-30-20, 01:15
The sad but short answer is to get girls to recruit for you. Find a pretty girls and ask if she has friends. Say they must be hot. Promise bounty or threesome as incentive.You are basically saying its impossible to find tens straight away, time is needed. What you are suggesting is interesting but it sound even more time consuming to find hot girls willing to recruit for you.

JeffThorsen777
01-27-21, 15:40
Does anyone know a dating site where you can meet European women? Real women, not fake accounts. I've been on too many fake and scam dating websites to count. Can be either free or paid (if the website is reliable).There are many dating sites today. The main desire and goal.

JeffThorsen777
01-27-21, 15:44
There are many dating sites today. The main desire and goal. I once went to the site https://hookupmasters.com/adult-dating-sites/instasext-review/ and forgot what boredom and melancholy are. Thanks to webcams, you can find a girl for every taste. Yes, and even chat live. What could be better? This is how I met my current girlfriend.

LazyAss69
02-20-21, 01:49
There are many dating sites today. The main desire and goal. I once went to the site https://hookupmasters.com/adult-dating-sites/instasext-review/ and forgot what boredom and melancholy are. Thanks to webcams, you can find a girl for every taste. Yes, and even chat live. What could be better? This is how I met my current girlfriend.It Seems like a paid website give a free alternative.

UweHertzog459
03-10-21, 14:27
I really like this Dating agency russiancupid.com I used it personally.

XViking
06-18-21, 18:16
I chatted on dating sites with women younger than me (age 20-28) from countries with lower GDP per capita looking for serious relations. All my accounts on dating sites, Facebook and email were hacked.

First a fake profile matched me and tried to get information whether there is anything illegal in what I am doing. Meanwhile he / she traced my ex on Facebook and passed her all my correspondence on dating sites. They did not know we are separated and divorcing.

Then the hacker contacted me directly through Facebook and email and presented him / herself as organization of women protecting the rights of women worldwide.

The hacker said that what I do is legal but not acceptable for their values. I must find a couple in my country and of my age. He / she stated that 6 countries are forever closed to me (did not yet check if it is true).

They intensively persuaded my ex to complain on me in police until she said them to go to hell.

They contacted my friends on Facebook, published all my correspondence from dating sites on my Facebook page and fixed a permanent supervision. The moment I opened Facebook I saw a kind of message coming from them.

Usually it was a threat, like "we are close," "we are investigating your past," "we need a little more time," or an outright criminal threat like: "We know you are going to Thailand. You will be met. " At last they blocked my Facebook account for a year, aa well as all my accounts on dating sites.

They looked for my parents online but the parents do not use Facebook or email. So they delivered to their home a hard copy of all my correspondence from dating sites. It was an envelope of a good kilo colorprinted on good quality paper.

Whatever woman I was in contact with, they contacted her and her relatives through Facebook and passed photos of my ex-girlfriends hacked from my phone and email and sent them their version of my biography and character.

I know I can sue them for a good amount for publication of private information, hacking private accounts and email, defamation and threats. The problem is to trace them. Private cyber detectives demand 6000 $ without guarantee. Did not yet complain in police.

Did anybody else confronted the same organization and managed to detect them?

MikeCct
06-28-21, 23:46
Hi all,

I'm rather new to SA and recently purchased a premium membership for an upcoming trip to Colombia. My question is, this is a very beginner question, but what is the expected order of operations / etiquette on SA, is the usual expectation that we meet up go for drinks / dinner, come back to my apartment, and go from there? Do you tend to agree on money before hand or after?

Curious what more seasoned guys have down as general etiquette for everyone getting what they want and leaving content.

Thanks.

Boofer
07-07-21, 18:19
Did anybody try this? I used this in Greece and managed to pull a couple of Russian girls last week that wanted to travel to Greece.

Cheers.

Jny88
08-25-21, 02:38
Did anybody try this? I used this in Greece and managed to pull a couple of Russian girls last week that wanted to travel to Greece.

Cheers.How does it work? Did you pay for there flight to Greece?

Gfefan
08-31-21, 12:36
Have any of you used Joyclub. De? What would be your feedback?

Boofer
09-05-21, 04:13
No, I checked girls already in Greece and became a member in the website (around $40) messaged the girls and got a couple of contacts. . The one I chose showed up and was exactly as photos. She was semi pro, and hinted to a present during dinner where I offered 200 Euros (was horny and she was an elegant student from Ukraine) and off we go to the hotel where it was a total GFE.


How does it work? Did you pay for there flight to Greece?.