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Vito Corleone
12-10-08, 04:13
Hi Vito Corleone,
I was surprised by the reaction I got. Angelina (Czech Republic)knows me and I always go for the €100 option with her. Obviously that is not enough any more. Maybe she just wants €50 these days but she must have been telling Evelina (Czech Republic) about me as the two were hanging around together quite a lot and eyed me up a couple of times. Evelina said her name was Evelina and she was from Czech Republic. She did not say her name was Lina or even Lena.
Evelina has a pretty fsace, but something about the voluptuosness does not do it for me 100%.
I asked Evelina if she could go to the room with me. Evelina did not look very interested and said she offers suck and fuck and no more than that. I said I was fine with that. Then Evelina changes her mind and says no, she will only go to the room if I also take Angelina as well. I say I am only after one girl and I would like it to be Evelina please.
Evelina just looks away and notices I am not biting then she says maybe we can go to the room later.
Evelina I saw was doing clientele from the United Nations - all creeds, colours and religions so I guess it cannot be because I am an English speaker. She seemed to be banging them out and giving a decent slice of the 30 minutes although not more than 30 minutes.
Angelina was cute last time I was with her. She even tooks me to one side to teach me a few German phrases and even took me through the menu at dinner time saying this is Katoffel, this is Flesch, this is brot, etc... I guess that little connection we had has been lost.
Regards
Londonbasketcase
Lina's bod is a little too big for me too, but I just had to try her since people used to talk about her quite often. I really dig her pretty face & she does give a great BJ. During my 3 trips to Palace last week, I noticed all 3 Czech babes hang out Lina, Angelina & Gina.
Vito Corleone
12-10-08, 04:23
This is great info, London. Thank you. I will be visting FKK for the first time ever between Christmas & New Year's. I will be in Frankfurt. Based upon what I've read, I should go to Palace, not Oase, correct? I personally like very skinny girls with small tits; I do not like buxom women. Will there be any difference in number of skinny girls at Palace vs. Oase? Is Palace to place to go as my first time?
Thank you!
World, Oase & Palace all have plenty of skinny chicks with small tits. For some of us seasoned vets, we can be picky, but for a rookie, these clubs will look like paradise. There is a chance you will be prey to some sharks @ all clubs & maybe a slightly higher chance @ Palace. Just act like you have been there before & do not tell the girls this is your first time. Do not take everything you read here too seriously. Go with your gut feeling & enjoy yourself.
Vito Corleone
12-10-08, 04:39
If you are into OPTIFUCKS.. and visuals are your only criteria, then this club is the only one you need to visit.
& if your criteria are older Grandmas who give great service & love to cuddle & would not last in the big clubs that's why they are there then BERNDS is the place to go. Is that correct? Not sure because I never been there. Some of my friends have. No need to see for myself as this is the rumor so it must be true. I receive great service from my ATF's @ Palace & I am not sure the last time you visited. I have had my issues with some of the girls @ Palace, but only good looks & visuals is a little extreme.
Vito Corleone
12-10-08, 04:51
Hi Radler,
the explanation for the reports about shark bites coming from new posters(of course with just a few posts in their curriculum) seems very simple to me: among ISG members only newbies with little info go to Palace nowadays, and surely those are the ones bound to be bitten by the sharks there. True there a few experienced punters here that go there also but those know their way around at the club and get better service.
Yes, GT has its issues, some sharks also, but I would not compare any other club with Palace regarding girls bad attitude and services. And what is worse, again, management does not care at all.
I agree that if you know your way around Palace & generally know who the sharks are & etc. then it is easier to find girls who give good service & avoid the sharks. Management doing nothing, well it might have been true in the past, but I saw a manager send a girl her pink slip as I was paying one of my future ex-wives. This was back in August & I was shocked. I have to say management is doing something.
Hessen Bub
12-10-08, 10:33
ColA (Colosseum) seems to be quiet after some events they had including German authorities. Not that many report, no matter what German board.
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HB
Basketcase
12-10-08, 22:18
Hi LBC,
If this girl really gave me the slice of 30 minutes, I would have much more sessions with her. Her standard is 50 euros for 10 minutes or less.
wbc
Thank you for the warning West by Sun - I did observe a few cases of her doing just that - providing the short programme but then I also saw her give a few guys the just under 30 minutes programme - my deduction is that these guys tooka little longer to come since they may have had several sessions prior. LOL.
Chaos,
Londonbasketacase
& if your criteria are older Grandmas who give great service & love to cuddle & would not last in the big clubs that's why they are there then BERNDS is the place to go. Is that correct? Not sure because I never been there. Some of my friends have. No need to see for myself as this is the rumor so it must be true. I receive great service from my ATF's @ Palace & I am not sure the last time you visited. I have had my issues with some of the girls @ Palace, but only good looks & visuals is a little extreme.
Dude, you need to go and see for yourself then.
Carmen must be all of 21 at most. Denise is 19 (and she looks and acts like she is 19). Bianca (she's moved on) was all of 18.
There are older women there such as Babsi who is probably in her late 30s but there are enough women in their 20s and 30s to make it interesting.
Hey man, I'm not sure to understood your point of view.
You mean, if you want only the beautyness go to Palace , this is your club.
Am I right?
... and can navigate the shark like behavior, then you should be fine.
I personally say: "Nein, danke. Non, merci. No, thanks."
I'm not there often enough to invest time and euros to try to the get the "lay of the land".
Vito Corleone
12-11-08, 00:47
Dude, you need to go and see for yourself then.
Carmen must be all of 21 at most. Denise is 19 (and she looks and acts like she is 19). Bianca (she's moved on) was all of 18.
There are older women there such as Babsi who is probably in her late 30s but there are enough women in their 20s and 30s to make it interesting.
Maybe I should visit & see for myself, but my firends said it was so. There minght be some younger women @ Bernds, but I heard they look like orcs. When was the last time you visited Palace? You sure post a lot about the place, but who have you sessioned with lately? I am not in denial, Palace can be shark infested with plenty of attacks on rookies, but I still like the place.
Maybe I should visit & see for myself, but my firends said it was so. There minght be some younger women @ Bernds, but I heard they look like orcs. When was the last time you visited Palace? You sure post a lot about the place, but who have you sessioned with lately? I am not in denial, Palace can be shark infested with plenty of attacks on rookies, but I still like the place.
I'm just not into the large Fickfabriken whether they be in Hessen or in NRW.
Just not my scene.
My point of view these days: to each his own. If you enjoy this place, that is fine.
In fact, I will discourage people from visiting Bernds. It drives me nuts to think that someone is slipping it into Svenja when I'm not there. :)
Maybe I should visit & see for myself, but my firends said it was so. There minght be some younger women @ Bernds, but I heard they look like orcs. When was the last time you visited Palace? You sure post a lot about the place, but who have you sessioned with lately? I am not in denial, Palace can be shark infested with plenty of attacks on rookies, but I still like the place.
...and see for yourself. One man's poison is another man's perfume...
This doesn't really belong here, but I just came back from my monthly Hof inspection. 16 SP working today (listed with approximate ages and body type);
* Alina (mid 20's, dark-haired skinny)
* Anna (mid 20's, tall blonde)
* Babsi (late 30's, well-fed but pretty MILF, and one of the best BJ artists is all of FKK land)
* Debbie (mid 20's short pretty blonde)
* Diana (early 20's dark-haired, slight paunch)
* Jamilla (mid 20's, tall skinny)
* Katja (mid 30's, built like a brick house, and FKK legend)
* Lara (mid 30's blonde well-fed, large breasts)
* Leonie (20's, tall, nubile Brazilian)
* Luna (30, new tall gorgeous Polish blonde)
* Mara (20's, skinny, pure GFE, another FKK legend)
* Maya (21, short, pretty darkish complexion- Gypsy blood new Hungarian)
* Natalie (20's, skinny, dark hair)
* Rita (20's, skinny, dark hair, beautiful eyes)
* Svenja (20's, skinny dark hair)
* Tanya (20's, short, dark hair)
Some of these are stunners, and try as I might I don't see any orcs on this list or omas. And the best thing about Bernd's- it's shark proof.
You should try it. You may be surprised.
Catmouse123
12-11-08, 01:49
Thanks for all the posts regarding the Fleming hotel next to the Palace. I see the website has 4 hotels. How do I know which hotel to make the reservation at next to the Palace?
Thank you!
http://www.flemings-hotels.com/en/flemingshotels
Ekliges Lauern
12-11-08, 02:35
...and see for yourself. one man's poison is another man's perfume...
this doesn't really belong here, but i just came back from my monthly hof inspection. 16 sp working today (listed with approximate ages and body type);
* alina (mid 20's, dark-haired skinny)
* anna (mid 20's, tall blonde)
* babsi (late 30's, well-fed but pretty milf, and one of the best bj artists is all of fkk land)
* debbie (mid 20's short pretty blonde)
* diana (early 20's dark-haired, slight paunch)
* jamilla (mid 20's, tall skinny)
* katja (mid 30's, built like a brick house, and fkk legend)
* lara (mid 30's blonde well-fed, large breasts)
* leonie (tall, nubile brazilian)
* luna (30, new tall gorgeous polish blonde)
* mara (20's, skinny, pure gfe, another fkk legend)
* maya (21, short, pretty darkish complexion- gypsy blood new hungarian)
* natalie (20's, skinny, dark hair)
* rita (20's, skinny, dark hair, beautiful eyes)
* svenja (20's, skinny dark hair)
* tanya ( short, dark hair)
some of these are stunners, and try as i might i don't see any orcs on this list or omas. and the best thing about bernd's- it's shark proof.
you should try it. you may be surprised.
add about five years to most of the girls and 10 years to babsi and you've got it about right. if babsi is under 40, i'll eat my fkk towel. and pretty? well, she could probably beat angela merkel in a beauty contest (not by that much) but either sarah palin or michele obama are easily more fuckable. enough said. i've never been able to bring myself to get a bj from babsi so i can't comment on her skills. i guess i could just close my eyes and think of britney speers, but if you are going to do that you might as well get bjs from the trannies at the laufhauses.
svenja is a nice girl and gives a nice bj, but i consider her average in looks for a woman in her early 30s.
mara is early 20s and has a porn vibe to her (regi-esqe) but she is no stunner. average looking dutch girl.
seems eye sight and estimating women's ages are not the long suits of the bernds crowd.
but by all means give the place a try as we owe a historical debt.
however for service, you can pretty much accomplish the same thing at palace by sessioning with a plain girl that you notice is getting alot of session. on the bernds scale, she would be considered a stunner anyway.
add about five years to most of the girls.
not sure where you're getting your information, and i admit that i don't check their id nor does their exact age make a difference to me. the main point of this was, that to regurgitate ad nauseum that the bernd's staff is heavy on the omas, is simply untrue.
i guess i could just close my eyes and think of britney speers, but if you are going to do that you might as well get bjs from the trannies at the laufhauses.
no thanks. i doubt if the trannies can give a bj as well as babsi, but if that's your thing, go for it.
mara is early 20s and has a porn vibe to her (regi-esqe) but she is no stunner. average looking dutch girl.
i don't recall writing that she's a stunner, but she is pretty in a next door girl type of way, smart, great to spend time with, provides gfe/pse and is constantly booked. maybe not a stunner, but definitely a stunning performer.
seems eye sight and estimating women's ages are not the long suits of the bernds crowd.
not sure why you're feeling so defensive or why you feel like you need to go an attack. this is a public forum and you can say whatever you want, but why do you feel a need to disparage fellow members? this forum is meant to enhance our experience and not to position ourselves as targets for poisoned barbs even from experienced mongers. not cool.
however for service, you can pretty much accomplish the same thing at palace by sessioning with a plain girl that you notice is getting alot of session.
i haven't been there in a couple of years, so i can only respect your opinion as an experienced monger who has some brownie points in my book for helping to discover the wonderful f39 sophie.
but i doubt that you can accomplish the same thing at palace. my eyesight may be wavering as i get on in years, but thankfully, my c*ck hasn't begun to waver yet, and knows how to differentiate between the good and bad providers. due to a much smaller lineup of women at bernd's, there will be less of a variety, but percentage wise the current bernd's lineup features similar ratios to the larger clubs with a mix between the younger and older, "stunners" and plainer looking, fresh and more experienced, just-past teens and milfs.
however, the strict management selection process as well as natural selection, ensure that all of the sp who stay in bernd's for awhile give good service. that's the point.
Ekliges Lauern
12-11-08, 12:35
Thanks for all the posts regarding the Fleming hotel next to the Palace. I see the website has 4 hotels. How do I know which hotel to make the reservation at next to the Palace?
Thank you!
http://www.flemings-hotels.com/en/flemingshotels
Fleming's Hotel Frankfurt an der Neuen Börse
Catmouse123
12-11-08, 18:01
Fleming's Hotel Frankfurt an der Neuen BörseThank you!
I had paid the Palace 3 visits in November and would like to share my views on the girls I have had sessions with. Those are my personal opinions and yours' can be of course different as depend on many factors when you take the same girl:
Sharliz - pretty girl from Kazakhstan, around 165 sm height, close to size B tits. Had two good sessions with her on 2 days in a row. She appears to like her job, both times I had a very good BBBJ in the KINO followed by a 30-minute session in the rooms. Real GFE, a lot of kissing, no rush, CIM. Usually works in the morning shift. Paid 100 Euros 8/10
Cleo - I believe she is German around 25-27 years old. Very good figure, C breasts. She told me she usually works in escort attending Palace unregularly when she has free time. Told me a lot of stories how she flies to Austria, Greece to rich guys, does hardcore in hotel rooms, then mentioned she was scheduled to fly to Greece the next day for an escort. Not sure she was saying the truth but she really tried to sell herself at max, saying real GFE with her will cost not 50E but 100E for 30 minutes. Agreed to these terms, would not say she is worth this money. She is professional though, does anal (I didnt take it) that she obviously uses a lot, as I got from my inspection:) CIM. 100E. 7/10 would not repeat myself as was too business like attitude.
Lorena - beautiful Hungarian chick (though she hangs out a lot with a Romanian blonde girl named Mara I believe, so I am casting some doubts whether she really is from Hungary), good B size breasts, closer to PSE. Started in KINO as usual, then room, a lot of sucking, and various sex positions. 30-minutes well spent. CIM, paid 100E. She offered my threesome with Mara (below) the next day that I refused and now regret.
Mara (may be I am getting this name wrong) - blond Romanian girl, around 170-175 sm, very slim, she often dances there on the pole, A size breasts, total GFE, very good session, CIM, 30 minutes. 100 euro. Her pics are among others at the entrance of the Palace. 8/10.
My last visit on 28/11:
Caroline - Hungary, 23 yrs, a little curly pretty long hair, some freckles on the body, B size breasts. The place was very very busy, she refused to go to the cinema but took me to a some cabin which they have around the pool, where we spent may be 10 minutes. She was really trying to end the session fast with a quick BBBJ and then doggy and missionary. Didnt like her attitude, so made a shot in her mouth on 10th minute, paid 100E. Would not repeat. 6/10.
Anna - 23 yrs, Hungary, very cute blond girl with some hieroglyphs in a column tatooed on her back where the neck is. Also refused to go to KINO as didnt want to wait for a room after due to crowds. Good C size breast, attitude to get her money as quick as possible and to proceed to the next customer. Spent about 20 minutes with her and finished with no CIM. No repeat. 50 euro.
Eveline - blond chech girl, C breast, very cute. Good session though she refused to kiss unless I pay extra 50E (she said she kisses with the guys in Palace only for the money). Wanted to have DFKs with her so agreed to pay extra. Will not repeat as clearly she is upselling. Paid 150E with CIM. 7/10
Dilara - Turkish, 30 yr girl. Very nice body, silicone C breast, very friendly and delicate bahaviour. A lot of kissing, very good and deep ÈÈÈÎá sex in any position. She does anal but I diddnt try. Spent more about 30 minutes in the room, she smoked after lying on me, no rush. Paid 100E. Will repeat. 8/10.
Any questions - just ask. Please correct me if I talk about Romanian girl with another name.
Turisto
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Basketcase
12-11-08, 21:55
Maybe I should visit & see for myself, but my firends said it was so. There minght be some younger women @ Bernds, but I heard they look like orcs.
VC,
I have been advised that I should make the pilgramage to Bernds one day - I expect I need to be in the right mood - keep it light and entertaining - its not about the visuals - its about the service and the in your face fucking and sucking.
The reason to attend Bernds once is to pay homage to the Grandmother of all FKK and to say that you have been with an oma as well.
Since I visit the FKKs and saunaclubs mainly in the weekends I am at a disadvantage as its a Montag to Frietag event. I think I could make a Donnerstag trip or Freitag trip and devote it to Bernds I will get there but I am unsure which Donnerstag or Frietag that I have frei that I will allocate to the long drive to the Hof.
Cheers,
Londonbasketcase
Devilspinkick
12-11-08, 23:30
Howdy,
I recently decided to visit Germany (again) next February and was wondering how well FKK Palace stacked up to Oase. I've been to Oase a few times and rather like it. I have a choice of visiting Oase twice OR spent an evening at the Palace and the other evening at Oase. Is the trip out to the Palace worth the trip?
BTW. I'll spend four days in Berlin prior to arriving in Frankfurt. I see a few nights at Artemis in my future.
DSK
Basketcase
12-12-08, 01:44
Eveline - blond chech girl, C breast, very cute. Good session though she refused to kiss unless I pay extra 50E (she said she kisses with the guys in Palace only for the money). Wanted to have DFKs with her so agreed to pay extra. Will not repeat as clearly she is upselling. Paid 150E with CIM. 7/10
Hey Turisto,
Excellent report and useful because you contribute with reviews and your candid personal experiences with the girls. Keep the reports coming.
Thank you. Someone else that was told that Evelina or Eveline's name is Evelina or Eveline and not Lina. Confirmation that I am not crazy but really a basketcase.
Good work with actually getting Eveline to the room. I had a bit of stick even making conversation with her. Seems like the same feedback that I got that kissing was either a no or you had to stump up a orange note (€50) extra. I guess that is Angelina's (Czech Republic) influence on Evelina/Eveline.
Some guys claim that Eveline/Evelina kisses for the usual fee - if so then you must have frequent flyer miles with her or charm that I know I do not have. Please feel free to be smug with the one up man ship on that aspect.
Yes, yes, I know there will be an out cry from those saying that the tourists are driving up prices and creating the shark atmosphere because it is they that agree to pay extra €50 for services like kissing and muschi licking that should be included in the usual €50 for half a hour. If you are telling us to say no then I did my bit and said no and got short shrift from Evelina when I was told Evelina was meant to have saved my visit to Palace last time.
This is in constrast to the ladies at Oase mentioned in the Oase thread where services are offered at the €30 mark for 30 minutes. If girls are hearing that the pickings are better at Palace then would that not under market forces mean that more girls will be applying to Palace for a position? I know that there are many here that agree that market forces should dictate the pricing.
Turisto, I hope that we may meet up again in another place - like Oase (any time of year) or Golden Time in the Spring/Summer. Keep it real.
Kind regards
Londonbasketcase
Ekliges Lauern
12-12-08, 02:39
The reason to attend Bernds once is to pay homage to the Grandmother of all FKK and to say that you have been with an oma as well.
Grandmother of all FKKs or FKK of all ...........
OK, for the humor challenged, I'll give it a rest.
Hi all,
This is my first post and I am a complete newbie to the FKK world.
Anyway, I begin to consider going to the Palace (or another one? ), but for something quite special: foot fetish.
So I would like to have some feedbacks on your experiences, as it is hard to find. How do the girls react? Do they charge? And the most important, how do they feet look like? And are there other FKKs that would be better for that? So many questions waiting for an answer
Thanks everybody
Cheers
Vito Corleone
12-12-08, 03:20
...and see for yourself. One man's poison is another man's perfume...
Some of these are stunners, and try as I might I don't see any orcs on this list or omas. And the best thing about Bernd's- it's shark proof.
You should try it. You may be surprised.
You are correct. I should & 1 day plan on visiting the club. I really have nothing against the club, just used it as an example for bashing a club without really visiting. Seems like some of the Palace bashers have not visited the place in years.
All the public sex stuff is not really my thing & the 2 rooms with windows will make me go flacid fast. I would only be able to use the 2 rooms without windows. Maybe 1 day I can hook up with you & Jackyo & have 1 big laugh together.
Vito Corleone
12-12-08, 03:24
Howdy,
I recently decided to visit Germany (again) next February and was wondering how well FKK Palace stacked up to Oase. I've been to Oase a few times and rather like it. I have a choice of visiting Oase twice OR spent an evening at the Palace and the other evening at Oase. Is the trip out to the Palace worth the trip?
BTW. I'll spend four days in Berlin prior to arriving in Frankfurt. I see a few nights at Artemis in my future.
DSK
I visited both clubs 3 times last week & both had good lineups. I have my regulars @ both so I would visit both. You will have a good time @ either club.
Ekliges Lauern
12-12-08, 04:00
Not sure why you're feeling so defensive or why you feel like you need to go an attack. This is a public forum and you can say whatever you want, but why do you feel a need to disparage fellow members? This forum is meant to enhance our experience and not to position ourselves as targets for poisoned barbs even from experienced mongers. Not cool.
Hi Iseeu,
Wasn't intended to be a "poison barb" and if you took it that way I am sorry. It, the comment about the eyesight of Bernds fans, was intended to be a humorous dig at the Bernds crowd playing on the convensional wisdom that the ladies at Bernds may not be of model quality.
I will respectfully remind you the we are in the Palace forum and not the Bernds forum.
I would like to remind you some of the recent comments regarding those that like Palace have included accusations of a "financial interest", "only newbees go there" and "only care about looks". The Palace bashers seemed to want to personally disparage those that are unwilling to say they don't like the place.
There was a time when the German forum valued and encouraged reviews. This time seems to have passed. It seems the forum and the Palace forum in particular is the dumping ground for endless re-airing of grievances. Most of these grievances seemed to have started when the entry fee went to 75E and it is the same folks rehashing their old grievances. I'm happy when people post reviews, the good and the bad, because it helps me find the top girls and avoid the girls that are best avoided. What annoys me are shark stories where the alledged sharks aren't identified. This doesn't help anyone.
For the record, I firmly believe in "to each his own" and my mindless Bernds bashing was simply an attempt to show the mindless Palace bashers (most of whom are Bernds fans and either have never been to Palace or haven't been in years) just how annoying their behaviour was by way of analogy. I even explained to them that they would rightly find it annoying if I started a Bernds Oma list (a bit of a satire on the black list of questionable accuracy maintained by a Palace basher who likely has never been there). VC took my Oma dig literally and ran with it. I was simply piling on.
I haven't been there in a couple of years, so I can only respect your opinion as an experienced monger who has some brownie points in my book for helping to discover the wonderful F39 Sophie.
Reviews are what make this forum useful. I appreciate that you write reviews as well. I'm sorry if I have less tolerance for those that do not.
Vito Corleone
12-12-08, 04:40
Hi all,
This is my first post and I am a complete newbie to the FKK world.
Anyway, I begin to consider going to the Palace (or another one? ), but for something quite special: foot fetish.
So I would like to have some feedbacks on your experiences, as it is hard to find. How do the girls react? Do they charge? And the most important, how do they feet look like? And are there other FKKs that would be better for that? So many questions waiting for an answer
Thanks everybody
Cheers
I really do not pay much attention to the feet, but I would suggest visiting Palace, Oase or World on the busiest nights so you can check out all the ladies feet. I saw this 1 babe kicking the crap out of some guys balls in one of the rooms @ World 2 years ago. It was the room with mirrors eveywhere with the curtain open. It was some really different shit, but the guy seemed to be getting his rocks off. Reminds me of Ralph from the Sopranos.
Vito Corleone
12-12-08, 04:47
Sharliz - pretty girl from Kazakhstan, around 165 sm height, close to size B tits. Had two good sessions with her on 2 days in a row. She appears to like her job, both times I had a very good BBBJ in the KINO followed by a 30-minute session in the rooms. Real GFE, a lot of kissing, no rush, CIM. Usually works in the morning shift. Paid 100 Euros 8/10
My last visit on 28/11:
Eveline - blond chech girl, C breast, very cute. Good session though she refused to kiss unless I pay extra 50E (she said she kisses with the guys in Palace only for the money). Wanted to have DFKs with her so agreed to pay extra. Will not repeat as clearly she is upselling. Paid 150E with CIM. 7/10
Turisto
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I also like Charlene. I remember when she was fresh meat @ oase 2 years ago. Still looks great.
I am still surprised that Lina would charge extra for kissing. Got plenty of dfk for the normal price 50e. Did not use my olive oil voice or ginny charm, but I made it clear I was no rookie. No upselling, just great BJ & over all good service. YMMV.
Looking for a place to go for a short mongering trip. Big fan of the FKK-style club (been to Rio, Buenos Aires, Prague and Thailand) but hear that most of these places will be low on women due to trips back home between x-mas and NYE. Thoughts, suggestions?
All the public sex stuff is not really my thing & the 2 rooms with windows will make me go flacid fast. I would only be able to use the 2 rooms without windows. Maybe 1 day I can hook up with you & Jackyo & have 1 big laugh together.
I assume you mean the room with the viewing window not rooms with windows. I love it, and some of the best times in Bernd's are when the people gathered in the downstairs lounge critique and comment on the performance and performers. Very enlightening. It's also a good opportunity to audition a prospective partner without taking the plunge. But I can understand why some people who are shy may not want to be showcased.
BTW, there's only one of those, and 8 other rooms, without a viewing window, so don't use that as an excusei not to pay a visit. And if you do, let me know, and I'll be happy to be your guide if I'm in town. Try it, you'll like it.
Hi all,
This is my first post and I am a complete newbie to the FKK world.
Anyway, I begin to consider going to the Palace (or another one? ), but for something quite special: foot fetish.
So I would like to have some feedbacks on your experiences, as it is hard to find. How do the girls react? Do they charge? And the most important, how do they feet look like? And are there other FKKs that would be better for that? So many questions waiting for an answer
Thanks everybody
Cheers
This is called Fusserotik in German and its a known fetish so I don't think the women will find it unusual.
I've never asked though (I find most women's feet actually not very appealing) so I can't give you advice on who would accept, what they would charge. I don't know if World or any of the Hessen clubs would be best to try this out.
I know that at Bernds the women wouldn't bat an eyelash. I also think that at PT Mettmann you'd get a nonchalant reaction kind of like: "Du willst meine Fuesse lecken? Warum nicht?"
At PT you might have to invest some time chatting her up and creating some sympathy. The women at a PT are used to offering the standard program to the dudes present. To get special services, you will need to have some kind of connection. Also the club will have to be relatively quiet otherwise, there will be pressure on her to keep her sessions to the bare minimum time.
All the public sex stuff is not really my thing & the 2 rooms with windows will make me go flacid fast. I would only be able to use the 2 rooms without windows. Maybe 1 day I can hook up with you & Jackyo & have 1 big laugh together.
This is one of those clubs where part of the experience is hanging out shooting the breeze with the other guests and the staff.
Its just a question of when am I there next.
The public stuff is something you get used to. I'm a PT fiend myself so whether someone watches or doesn't watch doesn't change my level of enjoyment.
This is one of those clubs where part of the experience is hanging out shooting the breeze with the other guests and the staff.
Its just a question of when am I there next.
The public stuff is something you get used to. I'm a PT fiend myself so whether someone watches or doesn't watch doesn't change my level of enjoyment.
I just experienced a Lady Marmalade Party in London (like a PT, but with a fixed ratio of girls:men) and it was terrific - my first experience with public and group sex. I really enjoyed it, so am looking forward to trying out a PT next time I am in the area. My FKK experiences certainly warmed me up for it, as I especially liked the kino.
R.
Vito Corleone
12-13-08, 07:37
I assume you mean the room with the viewing window not rooms with windows. I love it, and some of the best times in Bernd's are when the people gathered in the downstairs lounge critique and comment on the performance and performers. Very enlightening. It's also a good opportunity to audition a prospective partner without taking the plunge. But I can understand why some people who are shy may not want to be showcased.
BTW, there's only one of those, and 8 other rooms, without a viewing window, so don't use that as an excusei not to pay a visit. And if you do, let me know, and I'll be happy to be your guide if I'm in town. Try it, you'll like it.
I do not mind looking in & grading a potential session. People looking in during my session is a little too much for me. There are 8 rooms? I was told 4 total with 2 look in windows & mostly couch action. 8 private rooms sounds much better. I do not get up there often & if I do I might just have to try the place.
Hi all,
Thanks for those that recommended the Flemming's Hotel, is great, not expensive and the Palace is the next building.
Taxi from the airport, without traffic is 30Euro.
Another tip: there's an ATM machine 5' walking from the Palace. Is important since the cash dispenser there is limited to Amex and EC card.
Despite of the many threads talking about bad attitude and sharking I had a good time in a long session at the Palace.
I haven't spotted a single argument in 7hs.
I got there by 5pm and stayed until midnight.
1st I headed to the kino and some ugly cow approached and I sent her away. After her came a tall blonde from Czech named Eva, and I was hot and loaded, we started the french kissing and cuddling, so after she sucked me I came loads in her mouth, face and hair.
She was a little annoyed about the hair, but is her problem, as she pulled out after the first spurt.
Here go my 1st 100E.
Drinks and relax for a while and back to the kino.
Angelique (? ) from Russia called herself the princess, slim brunette, short hair, great kisser, total GFE.
Started the job and got me going so we headed to the room.
I took initiative, licked her (very) good and she had an orgasm that let her out of this world for a couple of minutes.
She took my dick fiercely with an amazing deep throat BF and then condom and she mounted me until I finished.
Only 50E for a great GFE experience.
I relaxed some more and 1st dinner serving came at 7pm.
Not great food, but eatable.
After dinner I was again in the Kino and a girl from italy (Jennifer? , not too young, slim, blonde) came to me, we sucked me good, we did some 69 and headed to the room.
In the room more sucking and licking, fucked for a while, finished doggy.
Another 50E.
More relaxing and before in my way to the kino a girl stopped me and convinced me to go to the room directly.
Juliette, from russia, she's a doll. Such a beautiful face, midsize tits, all soft, small girl, goes with some fake pearls beads collar.
Sucking, licking, she asked about CIM, but I told her I wanted to fuck her, so she didn't insisted on the upsale and I finished on the condom. Another 50E gone.
More relax and maybe I should have gone there, but this is not paradise, this is hell.
I was sitting at the main room rejecting ladies, but then this Chinese named Tam came and after some cuddling we headed to the room. She was up-selling from the beginning. She wanted to earn 150E, but I wouldn't pay more than 100E to her. She gave me body massage, BJ & HJ for a while, then I licked her until she got a loud orgasm, then she took my dick suck it good, put a condom, jumped on it and was screaming until I finished.
She earned her 100E. Then she wanted some tip, but in good humor I told her she had a good time and she laughed, hug me and went on.
Then the 2nd dinner serving came.
Before retiring I was approached by this Italian girl I should had avoid, name Chris. Very pushy up-selling in the room.
Eventually I got long BJ, she got a good licking, I did her tight ass, fucked her in a few positions and miraculously finished by the 6th time.
She took 150E from me. This one is the shark of the night, but I made her work very hard for her money.
One note: if you really want to relax, just assume the position, avoid eye contact and reject politely girls approaching you.
The girls understand that the punters are a simple machine. An automaton with just a few states and transitions:
Relax. ready to fuck. fucking. cum. pay. shower. relax.
The only exception is at dinner time when everybody (boys and girls) queue for food.
Have a good one. I did tonight.
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Catmouse123
12-14-08, 18:56
Looking for a place to go for a short mongering trip. Big fan of the FKK-style club (been to Rio, Buenos Aires, Prague and Thailand) but hear that most of these places will be low on women due to trips back home between x-mas and NYE. Thoughts, suggestions?Yes, I will be a Palace between x-mas and new years.
Anybody have any reports of how bad the situation gets during this week?
I never had a FKK experience before, thing are a little diff in Canada, we almost have the same concept but it comes with the "Massage" cover story and usually max you can get is BJ.
Now I'm leaving Canada and will be in Frankfurt from 8am till around 4sh, do you guys think I'm going to enjoy my stop in Frankfurt if I go to Palace? Or as matter of fact do you recommend any other place closer to Airport?
I was reading the last couple of pages, but I couldn't find all the answers I was looking for. Some other general questions are:
Whats the easiest way to get to Palace from Airport, train? If so what Destination should I look for?
Other than that how is the price list? From what I got its 75euro for entrance and then 50 for 30 min and so on? Correct?
And again if I'm not mistaking its only cash (or amex and German cards)? How much you guys recommend having on you for that period of time, well they open at 10 so lets say from 11sh to 4:30sh. Would love to try Threesome since never had one: D
Thanks guys
I never had a FKK experience before, thing are a little diff in Canada, we almost have the same concept but it comes with the "Massage" cover story and usually max you can get is BJ.
Now I'm leaving Canada and will be in Frankfurt from 8am till around 4sh, do you guys think I'm going to enjoy my stop in Frankfurt if I go to Palace? Or as matter of fact do you recommend any other place closer to Airport?
I was reading the last couple of pages, but I couldn't find all the answers I was looking for. Some other general questions are:
Whats the easiest way to get to Palace from Airport, train? If so what Destination should I look for?
Other than that how is the price list? From what I got its 75euro for entrance and then 50 for 30 min and so on? Correct?
And again if I'm not mistaking its only cash (or amex and German cards)? How much you guys recommend having on you for that period of time, well they open at 10 so lets say from 11sh to 4:30sh. Would love to try Threesome since never had one: D
Thanks guys
Nope, nothing in Canada comes close.
All of your questions are answered in the Palace thread.
I never had a FKK experience before, thing are a little diff in Canada, ... do you guys think I'm going to enjoy my stop in Frankfurt if I go to Palace?
Thanks guys
Going to enjoy yourself? Is the Pope Catholic?
You may never be the same, Mr. Baby.
Gentleman Travel
12-16-08, 15:24
I never had a FKK experience before, thing are a little diff in Canada, we almost have the same concept but it comes with the "Massage" cover story and usually max you can get is BJ.
Now I'm leaving Canada and will be in Frankfurt from 8am till around 4sh, do you guys think I'm going to enjoy my stop in Frankfurt if I go to Palace? Or as matter of fact do you recommend any other place closer to Airport?
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Whats the easiest way to get to Palace from Airport, train? If so what Destination should I look for?
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I'm Canadian and visited the Palace for the first time a couple of months ago.
Like Jackyo says, there is nothing like this in Canada.
I guess you are referring to "massage parlours" where you get a small line up and can negotiate "extras" once you are with the girl.
Whereas an FKK is like the best strip club you have ever been in, where naked girls come over, stroke your cock and beg you to fuck them - all for price of a couple of lap dances. Except the drinks are more expensive. Threesomes are easily available. Public threesomes. Whatever you want. But I understand (from info on this thread) that you have to be careful to distinguish between paying for sex with two girls (2x50E) versus that PLUS paying for lesbi show/sex (which will be at least 50E extra or maybe 50X2).
I did the same all-day layover in Frankfurt as you, so I had time to take the train to the Palace, which was worthwhile because it saved about 30Euros and there is nothing else to do until 10 AM. There are detailed directions somewhere in this thread (#2747 15 Feb 08). It is my understanding that the Palace is the closest/most practical place to visit from the airport.
Early in the morning the pickings at the Palace will be kind of thin, it will get a bit better around lunch, then better still towards 4:00 pm. So don't blow all your budget and shots on the morning B-team - plan to stay as long as possible, with a great farewell sesson. I took a taxi back to the airport and it was a pretty quick trip. Check out my report 16 September 08.
Thanks alot guys, gonna see Spend my budget wisly: D As soon as I get back to Canada (Dec 29sh) I'll post a report for you guys.
Ekliges Lauern
12-18-08, 03:30
Yes, I will be a Palace between x-mas and new years.
Anybody have any reports of how bad the situation gets during this week?
I've done it two years running.
Bad is not a word I would use to describe an FKK experience. There will be fewer women and it will really dwindle by the 30th. That said, the vibe is much more relaxed.
Ekliges Lauern
12-18-08, 03:42
Whats the easiest way to get to Palace from Airport, train? If so what Destination should I look for?
Take the S-Bahn (S8 or S9) in direction Hanau. Change at Hauptwache to the U-Bahn (U6 or U7) in direction Heerstrasse or Hausen. Get off at Industriehof/Neue Boerse. Quite simple, actually.
Babe,
Be sure you have your seat belt on,, take extra vitamins and drink lots of water... before venturing into The Palace.
You are in for a special treat.
Enjoy,
Strato
I never had a FKK experience before, thing are a little diff in Canada, we almost have the same concept but it comes with the "Massage" cover story and usually max you can get is BJ.
Now I'm leaving Canada and will be in Frankfurt from 8am till around 4sh, do you guys think I'm going to enjoy my stop in Frankfurt if I go to Palace? Or as matter of fact do you recommend any other place closer to Airport?
I was reading the last couple of pages, but I couldn't find all the answers I was looking for. Some other general questions are:
Whats the easiest way to get to Palace from Airport, train? If so what Destination should I look for?
Other than that how is the price list? From what I got its 75euro for entrance and then 50 for 30 min and so on? Correct?
And again if I'm not mistaking its only cash (or amex and German cards)? How much you guys recommend having on you for that period of time, well they open at 10 so lets say from 11sh to 4:30sh. Would love to try Threesome since never had one: D
Thanks guys
Vito Corleone
12-18-08, 09:15
Whats the easiest way to get to Palace from Airport, train? If so what Destination should I look for?
www.bahn.de
Found my self in Frankfurt over night waiting for a long haul flight the next day. Research of this forum was exceptionally helpful so I chose to visit The Palace.
Now I did find it a bit hard to find their web site and even then to pick their address ( I had a hire car) so for others trying to find the Palace FKK it is at Konigsberger Strasse 33 on the East side of Frankfurt.
This was an awesome experience. Parked the car, rang the bell and was buzzed to open the gate to the door way. Nice décor and even Christmas themed.
It was well explained to me that entrance fee was 79 Euro which included the hot pool, sauna, steam room, cinema room, buffet meal and soft drinks. From there I could agree to go with any girl I liked to the private rooms. Normal cost is 50 Euro for 1 pop or ½ hour maximum.
So I was given a wrist band key to my change locker and my “money locker” I locked my wallet in the small “money locker” which is right at the busiest point in the Palace. Then to the locker room to store the rest of my things and for a shower.
I took a robe to wander around in (you can use just a towel if you have a torso to show off. It was a little early but there were a lot of girls around in various states of undress including none.
I had a bight to eat and in little time I was a accosted but a pretty lady (in fact they all were) but I moved on to check out the rest. Problem was she had made me hard so what the hell .. I went back to her and we went to one of the many well fitted out rooms.
She was Romanian with a Celtic cross tattoo. Shaved pussy, professional, functional attitude, all was done well but no passion. She made comments like “Do not touch my face” – I have make up. After the deed we walked to the money locker for her 50 Euro. Interestingly she remembered my name later in the night.
I then had a drink and wandered around for about an hour until I was literally grabbed by an Amazon. She was Belgian / African, about 6’ with legs so long they went all the way to the top, met in the middle and made a **** of themselves.
She was very nice and gave a good GFE and a wonderful deep throat. With those legs I was DATY while her foot played with my balls! Lovely time was had by all.
I had a rest for a while on a lounge in a corner when a Greek lady sidled up to me and one thing led to another and before I knew it she was giving me a BJ until I blew. She had an average body, tits a bit saggy, but a great BJ. Ping, another 50 Euro.
Next time I think I slept for 1/2 hour after a sauna and dip in the hot pool (and some more food).
Now I had seen a girl wearing only a corset before so I found her and she became No 4 for the night. She was Spanish and never took off the corset. She was short but with big boobs and shaved, we massaged each other and it was a very nice GFE, no hurry, we almost slept for a bit after the deed.
Later I gave up and despite even more lovely ladies around (there was now a queue for the rooms) I thought it was indeed time to drive back to my hotel.
I slept well and reflected on my 4 pops (never so much since I was a teenager) and a remarkable 6 hours and 279 Euro later !
Great stuff, I will return next time I am in Frankfurt.
Catmouse123
12-20-08, 00:24
I've done it two years running.
Bad is not a word I would use to describe an FKK experience. There will be fewer women and it will really dwindle by the 30th. That said, the vibe is much more relaxed.Thanks very much! I'm looking forward to it.
JustGotBack
12-20-08, 08:08
Is Palace open on New Years eve?
Hessen Bub
12-20-08, 16:52
Is Palace open on New Years eve?
Open from 18.00 on January 1st.
24.12.08 - GESCHLOSSEN
25. + 26.12.08 - GEÖFFNET ab 18:00 Uhr
31.12.08 - GESCHLOSSEN
01.01.09 - GEÖFFNET ab 18:00 Uhr
HB
Noodlesnick
12-21-08, 23:22
A spare evening staying at the airport hotel. E25 taxi ride to Palas. About 10 minutes at 150 kph. Luckily no the most exciting part of the night. Set up as described by tiki tour. First round with Yasmin. Dark Dominican Republic girl who was cold and mechanical as soon as she realised I would not extend beyond 30 minutes. Redeemed later by a great time with Anise. German-Lebanese who was naturally beautiful and most responsive. From then on a bit of a blur. By UK standards at E1=£1 it is not cheap, but the experience excellent value for money.
Catmouse123
12-22-08, 22:33
Dear experts of FKK,
Do you know how often you can get anal in these women?
Will all of them do it if you pay the money or will only a select few let you do this?
Thank you!
From my own experience, there are more girls who do NOT offer Greek than the girls who do. For inexperienced girls, it could be very painful, especially if guys are rough. I suspect some girls offer Greek more selectively with guys they feel comfortable with. But I could be totally wrong. Since it is not my cup of tea, and I do not seek out the service. Maybe there are many more girls who offer the service, if I inquired.
As far as I know of, many Czech girls in Palace offer this service. Czech Lena, for example.
Vito Corleone
12-23-08, 10:09
Dear experts of FKK,
Do you know how often you can get anal in these women?
Will all of them do it if you pay the money or will only a select few let you do this?
Thank you!
Greek is not my thing either, but I would ask during the interview.
dear Catmouse123,
in the last 2 years I visited the Palace twice and went to a room with 6 beautifull ladies.
Of those 6, 3 girls offered me anal, a Turkish, Hungarian and a Greek.
I guess more girls do not give anal but there are quite a few who do.
Ask them before, the atmosphere is relaxed enough. And big chance that a girl who is not into that knows a girl who is.
Have fun.
Wever
Had a fantastic return visit to FKK Palace.
Arrived at around 11.00 am to find the entry fee has gone up – now €75 and no lucky wheel!
Into the change room and shower then a wander through to see what the talent was like. Only seemed to be about two or three girls about and only one other guy. Small selection but the ratio was fine with me.
Walked into the Kino and was followed shortly thereafter by Donna, a tall brunette with a great figure. After a brief chat and some kissing and cuddling we were quickly off to one of the rooms for a some action. I was as horny as hell so it was 'all systems go' for me. BBBJ, sex (mush and doggy) followed by a brief cuddle and a chat. No up-sell which was great, so 20 min later I hand over €50 to Donna, head for a quick shower and then returned to the Kino.
A little while later the numbers begin to grow and in wanders CoCo. Short, well proportioned and with a lovely sexy accent we are soon into caressing, kissing and generally getting each other quite turned on. After some great oral, I fucked CoCo in the Kino – goes to show how relaxed I was in my second visit, as it is something that I observed but did not contemplate for myself in the first visit. A few people wandered in and out while we were going at it like two rabbits but we were largely ignored even when CoCo started to get quite noisy. Another €50 well spent and I retire back to the kino. As with my last visit, I found the Palace to be a wonderful place to sleep of some jetlag, particularly after some great sex.
Round two with CoCo began about an hour and a half later. She was very keen to provide me with some more BBBJ and who was I to resist. This time we opted for some privacy in one of the rooms and slipped straight into some great 69 action. Not sure if Coco came or not but I certainly did straight into the back of her throat. CoCo has a great technique so it was 100% pleasure all the way which cost me €100 for the joy of CIM.
About an hour later, I am a back in the Kino dozing after a bite to eat when, completely uninvited, a tall darkish blond starts sucking my dick like there is no tomorrow. I had planned to go for one final sex session with a stunning little brunette I had spotted at the food counter but, when someone is already sucking on your dick and the technique is really good, the forward planning fades into oblivion...... as did my resolve to not fall sucker to any up-sell! Sure enough, I unload into the back of 'No Name's' throat and I am up for another €100. I am sure Coco put her up to this as I saw them chatting as thick as thieves on my way out.
All up – four shots for €375. While I was disappointed with myself for succumbing to No Name's outstanding technique, all up it still probably reflects good value for money, especially when I think back on the two rounds with Coco.
TDs
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Catmouse123
12-23-08, 22:47
I will be hitting FKK for the first time as a newbie. I wanted to know how much money one should bring. I am not some "super stud". I don't cum many times during a night, usually once does it for me. Twice if I've not had sex for a while, and three if it's been a super long time. What amount of money do you suggest to bring as a first time?
Thank you!
I will be hitting FKK for the first time as a newbie. I wanted to know how much money one should bring. I am not some "super stud". I don't cum many times during a night, usually once does it for me. Twice if I've not had sex for a while, and three if it's been a super long time. What amount of money do you suggest to bring as a first time?
Thank you!
If you factor in entry fee plus three sessions at 50 Euros, you should have enough.
You will need more than this though if you are the type who gets carried away and demands extra services or if you assent to any upsell.
Gentleman Travel
12-24-08, 15:55
I will be hitting FKK for the first time as a newbie. I wanted to know how much money one should bring. I am not some "super stud". I don't cum many times during a night, usually once does it for me. Twice if I've not had sex for a while, and three if it's been a super long time. What amount of money do you suggest to bring as a first time?
Depends on what will maximize your pleasure.
For me, given the sub-optimal circumstances (flight fatigue, second-string line-up in the morning) I was concerned that I might not climax with just a regular session - so I upgraded to CIM, which provided enough added zest to get my juices flowing, so to speak.
Another approach would be to accept that you are only going to pop once or twice, but spin that whole process out with extras, like a threesome or lesbi show, or whatever, for added entertainment.
Finally, there is the cost-benefit maximizing model: 75E+50E+50E = 175E
The problem with the latter is that the FKK experience is not as cost-efficient if you are only going for one or two standard sessions - you might get better value with an escort.
FKK is best as a "kid in a candy shop" experience, sampling whatever and as much as you want!
I will be hitting FKK for the first time as a newbie. I wanted to know how much money one should bring. I am not some "super stud". I don't cum many times during a night, usually once does it for me. Twice if I've not had sex for a while, and three if it's been a super long time. What amount of money do you suggest to bring as a first time?
Thank you!
Hey,
As a general rule, I plan on doing three sessions when I go to a club. Often it is more, and often it is less.
Unless I am anticipating a special (read: expensive) encounter with one of my favorites, then I usually bring about three bills into a club, beyond the club's entrance fee.
I figure that takes care of me if I do three extended sessions or session with extras. It also covers me in the unlikely event of a price dispute. This almost never happens and I'm seasoned enough to avoid it, but it never hurts to be prepared. Especially at Palace.
I rarely blow the whole wad (I can already hear a senior ISGer or three laughing) and 150 has more often than not covered a night's festivities. But I try to plan on doing two sessions with established favorites and one with new talent. An established favorite might turn into a longer session.
I would respectfully disagree with Gentleman Traveler's statement about the FKKs being less cost effective for one or two standard sessions than escorts or apartment bordellos. One, maybe. But a standard 30 minute apartment visit is usually between 80 and 100. Often this is with covered oral and in my experience FKK sex standards are considerably better than apartments or escorts. Of course there are exceptions, but the beauty of the FKK is that you can observe a gals presence and attitude, and get a feel for how she will perform in the room.
Otherwise I would agree with all his other sage advice.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Vito Corleone
12-25-08, 04:39
I will be hitting FKK for the first time as a newbie. I wanted to know how much money one should bring. I am not some "super stud". I don't cum many times during a night, usually once does it for me. Twice if I've not had sex for a while, and three if it's been a super long time. What amount of money do you suggest to bring as a first time?
Thank you!
I bring as much as I can. I do not let money limit my experience in the clubs. I will session as much as my balls & body can take.
Make up your own budget & go from there.
I will be hitting FKK for the first time as a newbie. I wanted to know how much money one should bring. I am not some "super stud". I don't cum many times during a night, usually once does it for me. Twice if I've not had sex for a while, and three if it's been a super long time. What amount of money do you suggest to bring as a first time?
Thank you!
Fkk's are great...but if you grab your first naked hotty and she goes down on you with great gusto and skill...and within 5 minutes you can't control yourself and cum in her mouth...you will be severely disappointed with the Fkk clubs. She'll probably say after that cum that your done and now owe her 100 euro's. No matter what you try to tell yourself afterwards, that sucks...no pun intended.
Keep the money in your mind when you enter the room...what will cost you more than the 50 euro's/half hour rate? cim, anal, extra time, cum on chest?, 2 girl action?, etc. Keep your mind on both the sex and the wallet.
Keep the cost per girl to 50 euro's per half hour and you can lots of fun without having to cum every time. So bring 300 extra besides the entrance...but keep 100 of that seperate as emergency money in case you need it later.
Hey,
As a general rule, I plan on doing three sessions when I go to a club. Often it is more, and often it is less.
Unless I am anticipating a special (read: expensive) encounter with one of my favorites, then I usually bring about three bills into a club, beyond the club's entrance fee.
I figure that takes care of me if I do three extended sessions or session with extras. It also covers me in the unlikely event of a price dispute. This almost never happens and I'm seasoned enough to avoid it, but it never hurts to be prepared. Especially at Palace.
I rarely blow the whole wad (I can already hear a senior ISGer or three laughing) and 150 has more often than not covered a night's festivities. But I try to plan on doing two sessions with established favorites and one with new talent. An established favorite might turn into a longer session.
I would respectfully disagree with Gentleman Traveler's statement about the FKKs being less cost effective for one or two standard sessions than escorts or apartment bordellos. One, maybe. But a standard 30 minute apartment visit is usually between 80 and 100. Often this is with covered oral and in my experience FKK sex standards are considerably better than apartments or escorts. Of course there are exceptions, but the beauty of the FKK is that you can observe a gals presence and attitude, and get a feel for how she will perform in the room.
Otherwise I would agree with all his other sage advice.
Cheers,
Dedalus
I find that an FKK is like eating a fine meal on a dirty plate. The food is good, but the environment (cleanlyness, wait for room, food etc.) leave a bit to be desired.
I find that an FKK is like eating a fine meal on a dirty plate. The food is good, but the environment (cleanlyness, wait for room, food etc.) leave a bit to be desired.
Agree...but only if you visit the clubs on their busy days. If you try to arrange your visits on the slower days you can avoid most of these issues.
My problem with FKK's is the boredom between sessions. I don't speak German, and there's only so much food I can eat.
The eye-candy is nice, but it would be great if there were something to do while waiting for the sperm count to recover.
If someone designs an FKK that provides for something to do between lays besides sitting around, they will get a lot of business. Here are some ideas.
1. Naked girl volleyball.
2. Naked girl jump rope contests
3. Foxy Boxing
4. Female mud wrestling
5. Pussy Ping-Pong ball launching.
6. Fake orgasm contest
7. Pin the tail on the hooker (Blindfolded guy with a boner tries for a bulls eye)
You may have guessed I spent some time in Asia. However, if people were having fun between lays it would be a fun place to be and not just a place to get laid and eat a free meal and take a sauna. The Germans are the kings of efficient sex, but they can be a bit boring. Time to push the envelope.
Just my two euros worth.
I find that an FKK is like eating a fine meal on a dirty plate. The food is good, but the environment (cleanlyness, wait for room, food etc.) leave a bit to be desired.
Hey Aki (hope your holidays are going well!),
You really think so? Maybe my take is different because I have trod in some pretty dreary places, but I would have a hard time comparing any of the clubs that I have been to (or the clubs that we have both visited together) to a dirty plate. I'll grant you that Oase could clean up their act in the men's changing room and most clubs could do a bit better food-wise, but in generally most clubs do a pretty darn good job of keeping their facilities tidy. No easy task considering that a good number of "Gents" treat theses places with pig-like disrespect. Next time we meet up, I'll tell you some stories that were relayed to me by a staff member at one of the Frankfurt clubs.
I'm with you on the room waits, but a creative Gent can always find a way to make those waits interesting, stimulating and productive.
Cheers,
Dedalus
My problem with FKK's is the boredom between sessions. I don't speak German, and there's only so much food I can eat.
The eye-candy is nice, but it would be great if there were something to do while waiting for the sperm count to recover.
If someone designs an FKK that provides for something to do between lays besides sitting around, they will get a lot of business. Here are some ideas.
1. Naked girl volleyball.
2. Naked girl jump rope contests
3. Foxy Boxing
4. Female mud wrestling
5. Pussy Ping-Pong ball launching.
6. Fake orgasm contest
7. Pin the tail on the hooker (Blindfolded guy with a boner tries for a bulls eye)
You may have guessed I spent some time in Asia. However, if people were having fun between lays it would be a fun place to be and not just a place to get laid and eat a free meal and take a sauna. The Germans are the kings of efficient sex, but they can be a bit boring. Time to push the envelope.
Just my two euros worth.
Hey Mahaba,
Damn funny post, my man! Actually, many is the evening that I have heard a fake orgasm contest, but the other ideas have avoided my radar. The ping-pong idea is an interesting one.
Truthfully, German skills are not necessarily a must for enjoying oneself in between sessions. Most Germans are excellent linguists and are willing, even eager to speak English. There are a few German contributions on this board and they speak and write English on the highest level. Right friendly guys too.
Also many of the girls get their tongues around English well enough to be conversational, even flirty.
The nut-jobs who run Palace will not let Gents play cards, chess or other games in between sessions (myself and another guy nearly got tossed by that bald-headed stooge Klaus at Palace for playing hearts this past summer. No matter that we had about four sessions apiece.) However other clubs are less snooty and more customer friendly in this respect.
In the NRW clubs like GT, LR and VV you can surf the web on your laptop or smart phone, as they have decent Wifi signals. Great for live reporting!
Some clubs like Paradise (Stuttgart) World and Artemis have wellness areas that are pretty sharp.
I'm a bit of a sick dog, and never tire of checking out some good ole' public action in between sets. Oase, Bernd's and Kinos at most clubs satisfy this desire pretty well.
Also, I've met up with a number of pretty neat dudes from this board and others who are grand company in between sessions. Aside from swapping "war stories", joking and often just acting silly, playing 'tween-session-games like "gayest Ipod" with FKK Lover and "You choose my next pop" with Mike D. or "[CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off the Romanian, then get her to still go with you to the room and deliver hot sex" with a number of crazies here, have been classics. Also laying the groundwork for future sessions for myself and others can be a fun pastime. Gotta a few friends on this board who are pretty happy with me for aiding in their subsequent love-connections.
In short and with all due respect, try harder. We can't blame the really blame the clubs if we are bored between pops, but we can make ourselves more interesting.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Ekliges Lauern
12-28-08, 11:17
This may be consider off topic, given that the forum seems to be devoted to discussions of how much money to take, whether it is appropriate to play cards at an FKK and discussions of club hygiene, but I’m going to post a review. I apologize in advance for the off topic post.
Just to chime in on the current on topics, I take 400-500 Euro to the club in Hesse and 300-400 Euro when in NRW. If you are playing cards with other guys when surrounded by naked women, well I think management is doing you a favor by telling you to knock it off. And for concerns on club hygiene, I suggest PMing this gentleman, determining where he will be, and going somewhere else:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=806203&postcount=3328
But on to the review. I find myself in Palace at the kick off of my year end fuck fest. I get there about 6PM on Saturday. Pickings are slim, about 15 women, but about 5 of them are on my repeat list. After chilling for the requisite hour, I catch Brazilian Kimmie heading into the Kino. I follow her into the Kino and suggest we get re-acquainted. I had sessioned with Kimmie once before, at the end of the evening, for my fourth or fifth session. Kimmie was a hard worker and a nice lady, but I just didn’t have another pop in me. Anyway, she comes highly recommended by Ortos and a number of other mongers whose opinions I respect. So, I figured a second chance was in order.
A perfectly pleasant session ensues. Good but not toe curling. I think this was a case where the chemistry was not there between Kimmie and I. A pleasant but not great BJ ensued. We fucked in a couple positions, but I had trouble getting a rhythm going that I liked. I let her extract the FT bonus in the end. Now, don’t get me wrong, it was a perfectly pleasant experience, I just have such high expectations by now that anything short of toe curling is a bit of a disappointment.
While relaxing on the couch after my session with Kimmie, a bloke comes out of one of the rooms with a couple of Thai cuties in tow, one of them I recognize. A few minutes later, I am at the bar. Pom, the Thai cutie I recognize comes over and talks to me. She remembers me from over a year ago. I had sessioned with her twice in the same night back then and remembered having really, really enjoyed it. Pom is a spinner, classic tiny pretty Thai girl look. Pom ushers over her friend, Cindy and introduces her. Cindy is also a tiny spinner, cute, but not as pretty as Pom. Pom tells me it is Cindy’s first day and she is somewhat shy about being there. Basically, Pom is saying but not saying, “Please take both of us. I’ve taken her under my wing and would consider it a favor if you would take both of us.” I’ve had exactly two threesomes in my life. One was with two escorts in Montreal and was unsatisfactory. The second was at a blow job bar in Thailand. Not unpleasant, I just would not seek out the experience.
Anyway, I like Pom and figured if I was going to do a threesome, I wanted to do it where I had chemistry with one of the ladies and the other lady was one she was comfortable with. I still needed a little time to recharge and dinner was being served. I told Pom and Cindy to have dinner and find me when they were finished and we would all go to the room together. Pom and Cindy went off and got food, and came and sat with me while eating. A string of about five different guys came up trying to get Pom and/or Cindy;s attention, but each suitor was politely rebuked. Pom and Cindy returned after dropping off their plates and freshening up and off to the room we went. After watching my two Thai cuties put the sheet on the bed, Pom got down on her knees and blew me while Cindy kissed me and I fondled her. Eventually, I lay down on the bed so they could take turns blowing me. Pom’s technique was better than Cindy’s. I enjoyed fingering Cindy (she was getting very wet) while she kissed me as Pom was blowing me. Eventually, I had Cindy fuck me (reverse cowgirl) while I licked Pom. Quite nice as Cindy was very tight. The girls swapped places (and changed condoms). I would have thought the condom change would have been annoying, but every time the condom was changed, Pom would take the opportunity to blow me for a bit between condoms, so I came to rather enjoy the experience. I then started fucking Pom doggie style while Cindy kissed me but fondled Pom. I was digging this for a good long time. I decided to finish fucking Cindy doggie style. One more condom change, with the requisite Pom blow job in between. Pom positioned her face under Cindy’s and they were kissing while Pom was fingering herself giving me a great view of the proceedings. I pounded Cindy for a good long time and was seriously digging the visuals. In the end, I finished in Cindy. There was about 10 minutes left and Cindy and Pom gave me a nice 4 hands massage. Would I repeat, hell yes!
A couple of nice things. Pom and Cindy always spoke to each other in German. I even commented that it was funny that they spoke German to each other instead of Thai. Cindy said to me that it would not be polite for them to speak Thai as I would not understand. Also, when my half hour was up, they asked if I would like to extend. When I declined, they were cool with that. I did ask if they were around tomorrow, because I would have rearranged my plans for a repeat session, but sadly they are not. 100 Euro spent and well worth it.
Moral of the story. You have to try new things every now and then. I’ll probably do more threesomes from time to time when the chemistry is right (between myself and the ladies and the ladies themselves).
While resting, dark haired Russian (or Ukrainian) Elana sits down and hangs with me for a while. We chat for a bit and she tells me a little about her life. Nice girl. I had sessioned with her a few times, mostly Kino BJs. One of the cool things about her was how she behaved during our first session a while back. She had gotten me really turned on during the Kino BJ. I decided to fuck her but mis-judged how close I was to coming. Within about 30 seconds of her getting on top of me, I came. She thought she had done something wrong and was very apologetic. I turns out that we have a good chemistry and she can push my buttons without realizing it. I sessioned with her again later that day and had a great session.
Anyway, I wander into the Kino a bit later and Elena is waiting for me. I really wanted to wait a while longer before sessioning, but Elena came up to me and was giving me a great soft sell (very erotic kissing and touching). A great Kino session followed. Nice BJ followed by fucking. This time I held out more than 30 seconds. Elena knows I am good for the FT bonus so she made sure she ended the session by her blowing me. Ortos, if you are reading this, seek her out (she hangs out with Julia and Irena). You’ll like her.
I decided to end the evening with a Kino BJ from Pom. Not much new to write about here. I remember when sessioning with Pom in the past, I have awarded her the FT bonus so I didn’t ask when the time came. She took the first spurt in the mouth, then backed off (not that there was much more than one spurt as it was my fourth session). At the locker I gave her 50 Euro, and she was happy with that.
A couple of other notes. I chatted with a younger Russian gal, Natasha, who was quite hot looking. I didn’t go with her as I had a stable of regulars penciled in. Later in the evening, I saw her hanging out with Julia and Elena. I’m assuming Julia and Elena have told her of my love of Kino BJs and FT finishes, so she is high on my to-do list for future visits. In clique fucking has its benefits.
The other note is I witnessed an interesting altercation. A bloke was getting a Kino BJ and then tried to back out of the session. The girl invoked management. The guys friends all gathered around trying to intimidate the manager. The manager held her ground that he had to pay (he was welcome to a session with her if he liked, but he could not back out as she had blown him. I didn’t hang around to see the resolution of this dispute as I suspected the big bald duds would be intervening shortly.
After leaving, I took the U-Bahn to my hotel by HBF. I was feeling a bit hungry, so I stopped at Bockenheimer Warte. Stopped in a bar, Doctor Flotte and had a good Jaegerschnitzel with fries and a salad and a couple of Pils. Nothing like a good German meal and a few beers after a fuck fest. Recommended. The bar was a collection of 40s and 50sish Germans singing rock songs from the 70s and 80s. Some of the customers looked like they were the inspiration for the Werner comic. They were a friendly lot, quite welcoming and chatty. The Germans are at their best and friendliest after a few beers. If I hung around, I might have been able to pull a freebee with a 40-50 year old German barfly, not that I was looking for that at that point. Plus, if I was shooting for that level, quality wise, there is always Bernds.
A good evening at Palace. Selection was ok, about 25 girls max as the evening wore on. I don’t think a depleted Sunday lineup will be satisfactory for me today so I’m off to Oase.
Thanks for your well written report Radler...I am sure I will cheat on my Oase girlfriends on my next german tours and visit Palace again.
I am a bit concerned about 25max girls present on Saturday...is that normal during Xmas holidays ? Are then 10 girls to be expected on a Monday ?
Some points I liked a lot about Palace (against Oase) :
1. Food
2. Rooms, in Palace they almost all are nice suites with different themes, and different fucking facilities (Sofas, big pillows, etc.), I really miss that in Oase.
3. Hygiene!!! even if I too have sticked my fingers, tongue and cock in places where probably many wouyld do only with antibacterial suits, I am just not happy with the cleanliness of the facilities in Oase. No big deal for me the rotten smell in the changing rooms, but since it is not a cheap brothel it shouldn't be a big problem to refresh the rooms after each session. After my session with JANA few days ago I really felt sorry for the next couple who was coming in (don't get me wrong, no "gold shower" bullshit, but all other male and female fluids were left, and a lot...).
In this Palace for what I remember is top score, and so are GT and other NRW clubs.
Thanks for your well written report Radler...I am sure I will cheat on my Oase girlfriends on my next german tours and visit Palace again.
I am a bit concerned about 25max girls present on Saturday...is that normal during Xmas holidays ? Are then 10 girls to be expected on a Monday ?
Some points I liked a lot about Palace (against Oase) :
1. Food
2. Rooms, in Palace they almost all are nice suites with different themes, and different fucking facilities (Sofas, big pillows, etc.), I really miss that in Oase.
3. Hygiene!!! even if I too have sticked my fingers, tongue and cock in places where probably many wouyld do only with antibacterial suits, I am just not happy with the cleanliness of the facilities in Oase. No big deal for me the rotten smell in the changing rooms, but since it is not a cheap brothel it shouldn't be a big problem to refresh the rooms after each session. After my session with JANA few days ago I really felt sorry for the next couple who was coming in (don't get me wrong, no "gold shower" bullshit, but all other male and female fluids were left, and a lot...).
In this Palace for what I remember is top score, and so are GT and other NRW clubs.I agree with you about the difference of hygiene between Palace and Oase. But I want to underline the fucking shower in Palace. Everytime cold and the duration of every push is about seven second. Why they have a so great attention to all the things and they fall in shower area?
Ekliges Lauern
12-29-08, 17:46
I am a bit concerned about 25max girls present on Saturday...is that normal during Xmas holidays ? Are then 10 girls to be expected on a Monday ?
Pickings will be slim on Monday and Tuesday. I would expect about 10 girls on Monday and Tuesday.
Ekliges Lauern
12-29-08, 17:48
I agree with you about the difference of hygiene between Palace and Oase. But I want to underline the fucking shower in Palace. Everytime cold and the duration of every push is about seven second. Why they have a so great attention to all the things and they fall in shower area?
Shower sucks, no doubt about it. I really don't care too much as it is a small price to pay. The shower is about priority 11 on my top ten FKK issues.
Vito Corleone
12-30-08, 12:19
I agree with you about the difference of hygiene between Palace and Oase. But I want to underline the fucking shower in Palace. Everytime cold and the duration of every push is about seven second. Why they have a so great attention to all the things and they fall in shower area?
I think the showers @ Palace are better than Oase. The hot water takes about 2 minutes @ Oase then switches to cold then hot again. Never had a problem @ Palace.
One thing I've always wondered about in FKKs are how well the girls actually clean between sessions. A lot of them disappear into the bathroom for maybe a few minutes between sessions. I know from being in Brazil the girls really clean up and you won't see them for 15 minutes or so after a session, but before a session they'll disappear for a while to get ready. They seem attractive when you're warming up in the boite, then they go put on their uniform, clean up, and primp pre session. It's very nice. Having been to Brazil before I ever tried the FKK scene it took some getting used to the FKK girls seemingly just tidying up a bit.
One thing I've always wondered about in FKKs are how well the girls actually clean between sessions. A lot of them disappear into the bathroom for maybe a few minutes between sessions. I know from being in Brazil the girls really clean up and you won't see them for 15 minutes or so after a session, but before a session they'll disappear for a while to get ready. They seem attractive when you're warming up in the boite, then they go put on their uniform, clean up, and primp pre session. It's very nice. Having been to Brazil before I ever tried the FKK scene it took some getting used to the FKK girls seemingly just tidying up a bit.
Hey,
Depends on the girl. I had a bit of a shock at Palace recently when, after committing to a session with Charly, she came back out on the floor about two minutes after collecting her dough from the guy before me. She's always been a top session in the past, turned a blind eye.
However Monika and Maria always spend from 5 to 10 minutes in between sessions cleaning up.
Sunny (Oase) has always been famous for not only finishing Gents off quickly, but also for getting back on the floor after getting paid without any delay. She can get pretty ripe too.
All part of the observation process is guess.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Hello guys!
I just saw this on the palace web site:
Big party on Tuesday, January 13th, 2009 themed "mountain lodge magic". Free beer and hot waffles from 8 p. M.
Enjoy a wonderful winter holiday evening in the glittering magic of the "snow-covered" The Palace with exciting ladies dressed in ski lodge outfits. Dive in into this erotic atmosphere.
Do you think it is worth a visit?
I would consider Tuesday nights low nights but will it be a high night with this event? How is the ambience during such events?
Thanks
Hey,
Depends on the girl. I had a bit of a shock at Palace recently when, after committing to a session with Charly, she came back out on the floor about two minutes after collecting her dough from the guy before me. She's always been a top session in the past, turned a blind eye.
Sunny (Oase) has always been famous for not only finishing Gents off quickly, but also for getting back on the floor after getting paid without any delay. She can get pretty ripe too.
All part of the observation process is guess.
Cheers,
Dedalus
I'll second your impression of Charlie ded. Great session, in a PSE kind of way, but a couple of weeks ago at the FKKW Weinacht party I could swear Charlie was sporting some dried semen on her upper thighs. I guess it was too much trouble to remove the stockings for a proper shower in between sessions. And especially poigniant since she remarked about how she is grossed out about the lack of room cleaning betweens sessions during parties. Also, she charged me 50 extra for KISSING!! But since we spent nearly 15 minutes making out and petting while waiting for a room, I didn't feel that bad about the surcharge. But hygeine, YUK!! And that girl sweats boy.
Devilspinkick
01-01-09, 20:28
So Charlie is at the Palace now? Hopefully she'll still be there when I visit next month. I met her at Artemis a couple of years ago and did a menage a trois with her and a Polish chick. Talk about PSE (and I've always preferred PSE to GFE)!
I also noticed that she sweated buckets. No big deal to me. I think she is a definite nympho. My kind of gal.
DSK
I'll second your impression of Charlie ded. Great session, in a PSE kind of way, but a couple of weeks ago at the FKKW Weinacht party I could swear Charlie was sporting some dried semen on her upper thighs. I guess it was too much trouble to remove the stockings for a proper shower in between sessions. And especially poigniant since she remarked about how she is grossed out about the lack of room cleaning betweens sessions during parties. Also, she charged me 50 extra for KISSING!! But since we spent nearly 15 minutes making out and petting while waiting for a room, I didn't feel that bad about the surcharge. But hygeine, YUK!! And that girl sweats boy.
Is it too much to trouble to use a towel to "clean" yourself off? That is why I generally avoid girls with stockings or very elaborate shoes when they do not take them off in the room. I would not be shy in asking if I saw that. I am sure she would be grossed out if she knew.
Is it too much to trouble to use a towel to "clean" yourself off? That is why I generally avoid girls with stockings or very elaborate shoes when they do not take them off in the room. I would not be shy in asking if I saw that. I am sure she would be grossed out if she knew.
... their outfits or shoes are too elaborate and they don't take them off when they get into bed.
Its like they are ready to run away after the deed is done.. and sometimes this is in fact what they do. Zick zack. Then she's gotten up and she starts to make the bed.
I was talking to a chick over the weekend who had a red flimsy top which came to mid-thigh length. We were seated and I didn't notice right away but later discovered she didn't have a bottom on. She explained that a guest couldn't control himself and came on her panties so she had to wash and dry it.
She had to explain that normally she doesn't wander around bottomless.
Another hazard of the trade.
What I really can't understand are women who step into the sauna, sweat and then don't shower afterwards.
Hi Radler,
the explanation for the reports about shark bites coming from new posters(of course with just a few posts in their curriculum) seems very simple to me: among ISG members only newbies with little info go to Palace nowadays, and surely those are the ones bound to be bitten by the sharks there. True there a few experienced punters here that go there also but those know their way around at the club and get better service.
Yes, GT has its issues, some sharks also, but I would not compare any other club with Palace regarding girls bad attitude and services. And what is worse, again, management does not care at all.
I don't consider myself as a newbie, and I go regularly to Palace. Main reason, is that I have no time between 2 flights to spend hours on public transport, while I can get to Paalce within 45 minutes after landing.
I never had such problems as described here too often. Of course there are sharks, but, frankly, you can identify them within 2-3 ionutes of chat. I have had, good, and less good sessions. But never any big problem.
If I have more time, I would go to oase and wsorls, have been there occasionnally, but there again, if you are stupid enough, you'll get "sharked" as well.
Ekliges Lauern
01-02-09, 17:32
Hello guys!
I just saw this on the palace web site:
Big party on Tuesday, January 13th, 2009 themed "mountain lodge magic". Free beer and hot waffles from 8 p. M.
Enjoy a wonderful winter holiday evening in the glittering magic of the "snow-covered" The Palace with exciting ladies dressed in ski lodge outfits. Dive in into this erotic atmosphere.
Do you think it is worth a visit?
I would consider Tuesday nights low nights but will it be a high night with this event? How is the ambience during such events?
Thanks
Yes, definately worth a visit. It's not every day you can drink a beer, eat waffles and get a BJ (all at the same time if you plan it correctly in the Kino).
Seriously, the merits of Palace, both pro and con have been discussed endlessly in this forum. I don't think beer or waffles should determine your decision.
But that's just me.
Ekliges Lauern
01-02-09, 17:51
I don't consider myself as a newbie, and I go regularly to Palace. Main reason, is that I have no time between 2 flights to spend hours on public transport, while I can get to Paalce within 45 minutes after landing.
I never had such problems as described here too often. Of course there are sharks, but, frankly, you can identify them within 2-3 ionutes of chat. I have had, good, and less good sessions. But never any big problem.
If I have more time, I would go to oase and wsorls, have been there occasionnally, but there again, if you are stupid enough, you'll get "sharked" as well.
Pretty much everyone's views on Palace are known at this point. Some like it, some don't. I'm with you as I've had to fend off shark attacks with roughly the same frequency at Oase and GT (I don't go to World for my own reasons). I like the place as I get generally good sessions and have a good selection of regulars that I like there.
But others disagree.
I've met travelerb96 and respect his opinion, but different folks have different experiences and look for different things in a club.
Happy New Year,
Radler
Catmouse123
01-06-09, 01:47
I just returned from Sunday between Christmas & New Year's at Palace & Oase. I will report my Oase experience in the Oase forum.
First of all, I want to thank all the members of this forum for their help, suggestions, but especially London Basket and Radler. The information that LBC gave to get to the Palace was incredible. Finding these places was absolutely no problem.
For those who have never been to an FKK, it is the most amazing experience. Imagine being at a strip club or a dance club, and you see some hot babe walking by. You think, "Man, I would love to bang that chick, " but then you go home and masturbate to porn instead. At the FKK, you think, "Man, I would love to bang that chick, " and five minutes later, she's sucking your cock and you're banging her. It is truly an amazing phenomen. I will never go to a strip club again. It is a total waste of money. I'd rather just save up, go to Germany, and hit the FKK's instead.
I was very concerned about no activity at FKK between Christmas & New year's, but I was not disappointed at all, as Radler had said. It was fantastic.
I first took the subway to the palace, exactly as LBC instructed. It was no problem, very easy to find. Fleming's was closed, but ibis was open. It was 49E per night without breakfast. It was a great hotel. A little far to walk in the cold, but it was totally fine. The room was spotless, the showers nice, a perfectly find hotel.
I got into Palace after a 5 min walk, and it was 75e entry fee. Changed, took a shower, and hung around. The buffet was always present, and I must say that food was delicious. It is easily as good as any fairly good restaurant that you could eat at. It's not gourmet dining, but it's quite tasty. I had the pork chops smothered in gravy over rice. I then scoped out the scene, as many had suggested, making sure girls that were okay--but I didn't want to waste money or "wads" on--were sent away. I waited until I saw the 1-2 chicks that I thought were smokin hot and I wanted to bang.
I was there around 7pm and I stayed until 1am at the Palace. The place itself is amazing. It is kind of like a cross between a nightclub and restaurant. Techno music going the whole time, naked chicks just walking around. There were about 20 girls there that night, with about 10-15 dudes. It was a very good ratio.
I then saw Tatiana, super-thin, small tit chick with a super fine ass. I just had to jump on that. I took her for 1hour. First the BBBJ for like 15 minutes, then cowgirl, I did her doggie style, then she finished me off with her hand. Pretty amazing. 100e
I then saw Vanessa. She looks like Angela Jolie, but with fake tits. She has tons of tatoos and a smoking ass. I took her back, did a massage, BBBJ, regular missionary, then cum on the big fake tits. It was like being in a porno. Friggin amazing experience. She tried the upsell, but she was worth every dime. 100e for one hour, 50e for cum on tits.
The place seems to be rocking from 5pm until 11pm. At 11pm, the next buffet was served, and it seems that most of the girls were waiting for that last meal. Once that meal was served, the place died down (Sunday night between xmas & new year's). At around 1am, the place was totally dead.
I know that people are reluctant to say which place they would go to, but knowing what I know now, and I only could choose one place, I would definitely go to Palace over Oase. It is much closer than Oase (no cabs needed), the structure is much more masive & impressive, and it felt more energetic than Oase. But this is just from a newbie perspective, and to be fair, I was at Oase around 2pm, whereas I was in Palace at prime hours.
This was an amazing experience that I think every man should experience once in his lifetime. It is quite incredible.
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Does anyone know the names of the ladies on the Palace Website? The pictures heve been updated http://www.the-palace.de/ladies.php
Does anyone know the names of the ladies on the Palace Website? The pictures heve been updated http://www.the-palace.de/ladies.php
Photo 85- 89 + 91:
Irina, Russia (x- FKK World). Several positive reports on her in this thread (try the "search this thread" engine to the top right of this page). Thumbs up also from this guy. Excellent BBBJ. Do seek the CIM bonus all the time, so if this is not your intention, beware, or you may be there before you know it! ;-)
The photos do not do her justice IMHO.
Vito Corleone
01-06-09, 23:31
Does anyone know the names of the ladies on the Palace Website? The pictures heve been updated http://www.the-palace.de/ladies.php
Photo #'s 3, 6, 9, 10 & 11 Cindy from Slovakia. Tall 5'10 (woh) brown hair Drop dead gorgeous. Average service, but a super hot sport fuck. Likes to sit on the couches in the back near the sauna.
Photo #'s 77, 93 & 94. My future ex-wife Denisa from Romania. One of my ATF's.
Hey Catmouse123,
Thanks for your newbies perspective on Oase & Palace. I am also new, with only one notch (Samya) to my FKK belt.
I am intending to visit Oase & Palace as Easter so your reporst have been helpfull.
Zelatrix
Ekliges Lauern
01-07-09, 02:50
Photo 85- 89 + 91:
Irina, Russia (x- FKK World). Several positive reports on her in this thread (try the "search this thread" engine to the top right of this page). Thumbs up also from this guy. Excellent BBBJ. Do seek CIM all the time, so if this is not your intention, beware, or you may be there before you know it! ;-)
The photos do not do her justice IMHO.
Yep, she is a CIM seeking machine. Hangs around with Julia and Elena. One time I walked into Palace and Irina, Julia and Elena were all standing together at one of the tables in by the Kino. They looked at me in unison, smiled at me, giggled and looked at each other and smiled.
It was at that point my telepathic abilities were unlocked. As clear as day, I could hear each of their thoughts. Each girl was thinking two words, over and over, "100 Euro".
JustGotBack
01-07-09, 23:21
I went to Palace the day after New Years arriving at about 4pm. I believed the entrance to be 79 euros as posted here, but it was 75. It was the price posted on the sign and that's what the lady asked for. The good news was that 40% of the girls were doable, the bad was that there were only 5 girls and about 30 men. As the day wore on, more men and women showed up but the ratio remained. As previously posted there was a hot blonde playing on one of the video game machines. She was there all night and occassionally made the rounds to make some money but the moment the session was over, she was back at the machine. She was one of the doable girls.
I picked Tina, a thin brunette with huge fake tits. Pretty face and naturally a blonde she tells me. She was perfect, damn close to GFE. She didn't try any upsells and DFK from the get go. I could have finished in her mouth within the first minute but had her stop so that I could play with her tits for a while. I repeated this a few times. We then did a few positions and then I asked her for more BBBJ. She asked if I wanted CIM. I said no so she told me to let her know before it was too late. I did and ended up cumming all over her face when she pulled out. She didn't complain or charge me any extra. Definitely a repeater.
I'm not as young as some of you so once a night is pretty much all I normally can manage. I hung around for a couple of more hours and was ready to leave after dinner. But then this absolutely gorgeous Polish blonde showed up. Her body was not as nice as Tina's but her face made up for it. I picked her immediately. Unlike Tina, she immediately ran through all the upsell costs when we went to the room. She said there was even a price for kissing. She didn't push it when I said I wanted the basic suck and fuck. Her BBBJ was very good. Her ball licking was even better than Tina's. Having spent my load I wasn't in fear of ending too early. We moved on to various positions and once again I asked for a BBBJ. I didn't think I could finish but she managed to make it happen. That's the first time I've been able to cum twice in the same night in years. I give her extra points for that.
You can easily walk to Palace. It's not merely close to central Frankfurt, it's in central Frankfurt. It's on the edge of the tourists maps that are given out. About 40 mins from the train station. My hotel was about 20 minutes away. All the men was a little weird. The girls kept complaining that we were all bad men since rarely did the men take a girl to a session. Most of them were just hanging out in the sauna or by the pool. Most of the girls hung out in the front smoking room.
Basketcase
01-08-09, 05:05
I went to Palace the day after New Years arriving at about 4pm. I believed the entrance to be 79 euros as posted here, but it was 75. It was the price posted on the sign and that's what the lady asked for.
The good news was that 40% of the girls were doable, the bad was that there were only 5 girls and about 30 men. As the day wore on, more men and women showed up but the ratio remained.
As previously posted there was a hot blonde playing on one of the video game machines. She was there all night and occassionally made the rounds to make some money but the moment the session was over, she was back at the machine. She was one of the doable girls.
I picked Tina, a thin brunette with huge fake tits. Pretty face and naturally a blonde she tells me. She was perfect, damn close to GFE. She didn't try any upsells and DFK from the get go. Definitely a repeater.
But then this absolutely gorgeous Polish blonde showed up. Her body was not as nice as Tina's but her face made up for it. That's the first time I've been able to cum twice in the same night in years. I give her extra points for that.
All the men was a little weird. The girls kept complaining that we were all bad men since rarely did the men take a girl to a session. Most of them were just hanging out in the sauna or by the pool. Most of the girls hung out in the front smoking room.
Hallo JustGotBack,
Thank you for the great report. I expect I should be back at Palace since some crews that I run with frequent the venue.
Thanks for confirming that the entritt is €75 and not €79 - I thought there was a surcharge for the Xmas and New Years period. It must have been a typo.
Interesting statistic that there were 40% doable ladies but only 5 to begin with but hordes of men. Not a good ratio and reminds me of Golden Time where it feels like a London gay club (think the Heaven club night or London Astoria's G.A.Y. nights which are recommended for those wanting a homosexual experience).
I am wondering if the hot blond on the spacies machine is my dirty little minx Angelina (Czech Republic) that does all the dirty extras for the usual fees. She likes to play with the video game machines and she is really cute and have heavy natural D cup breasts that are a joy to fondle. In fact to entice her into a session I have fondled her breasts as she played her video game much to the amusement of Dick Travel who was also in attendance that day.
I will look out for Tina - would you be able to give a nationality for her or did it not get that far in terms of conversation?
Also did you get a name for the second blond that was hot and got you to come twice during your visit and was from Polen? The one that gave excellent ball licking - I like a bit of ball licking.
Interesting to note that the men at Palace were weird. I expect you meant weird as in heterosexual men coming to a brothel full of naked women wanting to suck and fuck you for €50 and they could not be arsed taking the ladies up on that offer preferring to instead sit in the sauna and lounge in the pool.
As to the pool - I will not go back into that water again since I am damn sure that there are diseases in there unknown to science that have not been identified as yet.
I also find it annoying that the girls hang out in the front smoking room. I do not smoke cigerettes so find it verboten to go in there to ask a lady if she would be okay about taking me to a room. Maybe that is another reason why the girls were not getting business.
BTW, Angelina (Czech) hangs out in the back smoking room - maybe its because she prefers it in the backside(?). LOL.
Thank you for the report JustGotBack.
All the best and Happy New Year,
Londonbasketcase
JustGotBack
01-08-09, 06:39
LBC, I think it was Angelina. I remember you posting about her. The description matches perfectly.
Tina is German. She's been there for 4 years. I don't remember seeing her before. She told me that her hair used to be blonde. She speaks perfect English.
I wish I could remember the blonde's name, but I forgot it right after she told me. She speaks perfect English as well.
The new thing I found was that many of the girls speak Spanish as well. Many of the EE girls I spoke too spoke it better than English. I would ask them a question in English and they said they didn't know how the words to say it in English but they could in Spanish.
Basketcase
01-08-09, 06:53
LBC, I think it was Angelina. I remember you posting about her. The description matches perfectly.
Tina is German.
The new thing I found was that many of the girls speak Spanish as well. Many of the EE girls I spoke too spoke it better than English. I would ask them a question in English and they said they didn't know how the words to say it in English but they could in Spanish.
Ahh, the dirty minx Angelina - Southsky7 fell in love with that one. Pretty, petite blond, brown eyed, big boobed and does all the PSE extras without complaint since its all about the geld (cash). She looks really cute in her street clothes too.
As for Spanish language for the girls that I think is natural due to many working in Spain in the Summer/Winter depending on when their managers move them around. The clubs of Barcelona (e.g La Riveria), Madrid (Estark), Costa del Sol (Milady, Estark) heave with EE sex workers during the Summer.
There are also lots of Brazilian and other South Americans working in Spain and since they have entritt to Europe they will find other clubs to work pursuing higher earnings of euros (or their manager does).
Estark 92 in Torreminlinos costs €70 a session compared to the €50 in the German FKKs but the Estark 92 has no entritt fee. You can have like 60 odd girls working the venue lobby looking for lads to be taken for a service in the rooms upstairs (or actually up the lift).
Talking to the girls and especially girls at Palace I find that they know the Spanish clubs since they have worked there. Some girls actually live in Spain like Gina (Czech) or go there for their holidays.
There is a particularly nice saunaclub style club in Palma on Marjorca near where the British package tourists holiday in the Palmanova area.
Cheers,
Londonbasketcase
Thanks for the info LBC. I did not know that Spain has inexpensive clubs that employ EE girls. It looks like another viable option for mongering in Europe other than Germany. I have gone to Argentina, Colombia, Mexico and Costa Rica during the Northern Hemisphere summer to monger.
I might try out Spain later this year because I had a great time while vacationing there in the past, non-mongering wise. I especially enjoyed the atmosphere of Barcelona, but that during my pre-mongering student days.
Vito Corleone
01-08-09, 16:36
You can easily walk to Palace. It's not merely close to central Frankfurt, it's in central Frankfurt. It's on the edge of the tourists maps that are given out. About 40 mins from the train station. My hotel was about 20 minutes away.
40 minutes from which train station? Usually takes 12-15 minutes from Frankfurt main station.
40 minutes from which train station? Usually takes 12-15 minutes from Frankfurt main station.
He probably meant the time you need from the Main Train Station if walking. That's about right, but can be less if you're a fast walker.
It takes – as Vito says – 12-15 minutes by train/S-Bahn.
Ekliges Lauern
01-09-09, 01:32
He probably meant the time you need from the Main Train Station if walking. That's about right, but can be less if you're a fast walker.
It takes – as Vito says – 12-15 minutes by train/S-Bahn.
Actually, 40 minutes sounds about right for S/U-Bahn or U/U-Bahn. Remember you have to wait for not one but two trains and there is the Umsteigen.
Vito Corleone
01-09-09, 03:30
He probably meant the time you need from the Main Train Station if walking. That's about right, but can be less if you're a fast walker.
It takes – as Vito says – 12-15 minutes by train/S-Bahn.
25 minutes to walk from Industriehof/Neue Borse station to Palace? It is more like a 5 minute walk maybe seven minutes if you have to wait for the light. Who really cares how long it takes. It takes me 20-25 minutes total including walking, but I seem to be in a rush to get my pole slurped.
25 minutes to walk from Industriehof/Neue Borse station to Palace? It is more like a 5 minute walk maybe seven minutes if you have to wait for the light. Who really cares how long it takes. It takes me 20-25 minutes total including walking, but I seem to be in a rush to get my pole slurped.
No, you got me wrong:
Hauptbahnhof (Main Train Station) Frankfurt – Palace by walking: about 40 minutes (trough town, if you know the shortest way)
Hauptbahnhof Frankfurt – Palace with train /S-Bahn: about 15 minutes
I don't care neither how long it takes. But it might be interesting for those running short in time or have to plan carefully.
:–) Globus
Catmouse123
01-10-09, 02:42
Hey Catmouse123,
Thanks for your newbies perspective on Oase & Palace. I am also new, with only one notch (Samya) to my FKK belt.
I am intending to visit Oase & Palace as Easter so your reporst have been helpfull.
ZelatrixYou're most welcome! Have fun!
West By Sun
01-10-09, 16:53
LBC, I think it was Angelina. I remember you posting about her. The description matches perfectly.
I had two sessions with this girl. While the seconde session, this girl gave me a sigh. And this girl rejected cow girl styl. "Baby I have no energy anymore".
This time Adriana of Hungary was so sweet with me.
Cheers,
WBS
Photo #'s 3, 6, 9, 10 & 11 Cindy from Slovakia. Tall 5'10 (woh) brown hair Drop dead gorgeous. Average service, but a super hot sport fuck. Likes to sit on the couches in the back near the sauna.
Photo #'s 77, 93 & 94. My future ex-wife Denisa from Romania. One of my ATF's.
Hey dude-- you missed a couple, Denise's also with another girl in 64,65,66, and 67.
Sebastiane
01-11-09, 02:08
I've just returned from an amazing session with the goddess who is Natasha
from Romania at Palace. Tall, black hair, porcelain skin, beautiful face, great figure--like a Boticelli painting or a statue by Bernini--but, above all, the proverbial icing on the cake, is her brilliant and friendly personality. She is so sweet and (an odd word for a working girl) innocent; I am not naive enough to think that a bit of it isn't put on but this girl is really special and I am genuinely surprised to see someone like her doing this job (which is she brilliant at). I had an earlier session with another pretty Romanian, the doll-like Camigla with a distinctive mole on her cheek, which was very good (DFK, great fucking and BBBJ) and I was exhausted at the end of it when, taking a break, I spotted the stunning Natasha who has become my fave girl at Palace since I saw her first 2 visits ago. After a friendly greeting with kisses on the cheeks like meeting an old friend we made smalltalk and I told her I'll go to a room with her as soon as I'd eaten from the (excellent) buffet of wild rice, grilled chicken and salad as I was famished. She said no problem and actually waited for me to get my food and eat it (a good 20 minutes).
After eating I couldn't find her initially and thought that she must have gone with another client since I'd taken so long but I was pleasantly surprised to see her waiting for me in the smoking room. The hour long session which followed was a dream. It was a fantasy made flesh and not really like a session with a working girl at all. It was a moment in time which lives in one's memory for ages. Wow! What a girl. She is the sort of dream woman any man would wish for as a GF or partner/wife.
I gave her a tip at the end too so impressed was I. This girl is special. Please God, can I have some more?!
Have any other of you guys been with this angel? I'd love to read your views.
Je t'aime!
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Dandriller
01-11-09, 09:25
Hi all,
Thanks for all the info here that enabled me to experience The Palace for the first time yesterday.
Arrived just after 4pm Saturday afternoon and planned to spend 2 hours there.
I brought with me only the entry fee + €150 in cash which is all I wanted to spend (without an erection to influence my decision), and no ATM or credit cards so that I couldn't make any financial decisions influenced by having an erection.
First impressions was that there were far more guys than girls and that there were not many really hot girls.
That is probably why when I saw the first hot girl my jaw dropped.
She seemed busy but saw that I liked her and I decided to do a self tour of the place.
After I thought I had checked everything out I sat down and about the same time, the same girl came over and we chatted.
Her name I have forgotten I'm sorry to say, but she said she was mixed Spanish and German, had a smoking slim body with a pert round ass.
She had olive skin and a tattoo between her shoulders.
Her breasts were probably b-cup bolt ons and she was wearing a mesh top and her rather long nipples were protruding through the mesh.
I hadn't seen the porn cinema on my look around and when she told me about it, I suggested we go there.
In the cinema she started with a BBBJ which was very nice to start with.
I let her know from the start that I wanted no more than a €50 service and she proceeded to put a rubber on me and started to ride me CG.
She looked great but she was very mechanical not allowing me to get close enough to fondle her or suck on those great nipples.
I asked her to go back to the BBBJ.
She did so but it became more a HJ than a BJ and when I asked if she could use less hand and more mouth, she said that it would cost more, even though I told her that I had know intention of cumming in her mouth.
Her attitude was annoying me, so I asked her to stop.
She initially refused but eventually I got up and thanked her and told her I would pay her now.
I did enjoy my initial time with her and it was a buzz doing it in a public area so I was happy to pay.
I saw her a little later and thanked her again and there was no bad blood between us.
After that introduction to The Palace, I decided to take my time to really meet more girls first and enjoy some of the facilities.
I met a rather voluptuous black girl that was trying to encourage me to play but I told her I wanted to relax for a while.
There were probably only 3 or 4 girls that I would say were really hot and would class as 9/10, the rest were quite average with a couple that were around 7/10.
I wanted to have a sauna so I spent around 30 minutes in the steam.
After the sauna I relaxed on a couch near the main bar where I tried to get the attention of one of the hottest girls I had seen there that night.
Unfortunately the black girl I had previously chatted to decide it was time to try for a second time to get some money out of me.
I was quickly hard, as she started licking my nipples and stoking my cock under my gown.
She was hitting the spot and so I let her go on for a few minutes but I eventually told her I was not ready for her.
She wasn't very happy that I had rejected her again after putting in that ground work.
Luckily though as she retreated, the hot girl that I wanted approached.
She said her name was Pamela from Panama.
She had the perfect body, hour glass figure, dark skin, flat stomach, beautiful D cup bolt ons, beautiful face, long straight hair down to her butt where she had a tattoo of a scorpion on her left cheek.
I suggested we go to the cinema because I really wanted others to see me doing this babe.
She was sensational, BBBJ to perfection with great eye contact and ball licking.
She suggested a room, where she said everything would be on offer and I thought I should try one on my first visit so we did.
When we were inside she told me the list of what she would do which included anal.
I told her that I would be sticking to the €50 service though and she was OK with that.
She started with more great BBBJ with the same eye contact and ball and shaft licking and sucking.
The only slightly detracting part I will mention is that she did spit her saliva into a tissue every few minutes while performing BBBJ but it did reassure me that she is very careful about hygiene, and it was done discretely.
Her attention to hygiene was also evident before she started to suck my cock in the cinema and room, as she cleaned my cock thoroughly with an alcohol wipe.
That was a nice touch I thought as it was reassuring that I might have less chance of some other guys DNA or disease being passed on to me.
Next after she popped on a rubber, reverse CG was on the menu which she did without asking and she must have read my mind, because laying back and watching that ass going up and down as my cock slid in and out of her perfect pussy lips was a sight to behold.
She did this while all the time keeping eye contact by looking over her shoulder which made made it such a personal experience.
Next was doggie and again, what a magical sight entering her from behind while holding those perfect ass cheeks.
I was getting close to cumming at this stage so I pulled out to hold off the inevitable, and mounted her missionary for a little while.
I told her wanted to finish with BBBJ so off with the rubber and back to some great BBBJ.
Unfortunately by this stage, my tiredness meant it was going to take more time than I had available to cum, even with Pamela's great technique, so she finished me off with one of the best hand jobs that was accompanied by her own moaning with pleasure to encourage my ejaculation.
It took some work but eventually I released with an amazing orgasm that had started building up since I walked into the Palace 2 hours earlier.
She cleaned me up and I gave her €50.
I took a shower, got dressed and after spending a total of €175 including entry, I walked out of the Palace 2 1/2 hours after arriving and was very happy that I had €50 to spare.
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Her attention to hygiene was also evident before she started to suck my cock in the cinema and room, as she cleaned my cock thoroughly with an alcohol wipe.
From what I know about wood alcohol, its not a good idea to ingest it. She can go blind.
After a Saturday at world I decided to try palace for the first time. I was staying in the Flaming's hotel so it was effortless. I arrived there around 12. Nice looking place, more than world in my opinion. I had a breakfast, not good not bad. While I was eating, Stefania started to talk to me. She is half italian half greek, so I was pleased to speak italian with someone in a new place. She showed me the place and we went to the cinema. She explained me everythigng about services from girls in palace and then started a blowjob. We went to a room, the blowjob continued, then a doggy style and I came. Good session, nice attitude. She told me to be carefull with girls there because they try to rip off pretty often. And that's what happened with the next 2 sessions.
I was resting near the pool when 2 german girls arrived. One with big boobs, nice ass, brown air a dark skin and one blond and tall. I told them I was tired and they asked me if I'd like to watch them licking each other doing a lesbo. At this point I was betrayed by my cock. I should have said no, I know duos are often pathetic but I thought they were friends and maybe good at it. Unfortunatly I wasn't right. They asked me 100 euro each for 30 mins of that, too bad they were very bad at faking and not that good at sex either. For some reason I really liked the blond one face and with some dirty thinking I was able to stay hard. I couldn't finish in the 30 mins and stopped there. I didn't want to argue with them because I don't like it, paid them and started to regret from there: D.
To the pool area again and ready for another rip-off. A tall blond Polish girl came to sit near me. She was beatifull, and when I saw her better later, even more beautifull. She told me she is very good at massage because that's her real job. She told me she really likes to please men. So I decided to go with her, I wanted a good massage and still had 1 shot from the previous rip-off. In the room I started to feel something wrong. I told her I had a bed experience before and I didn't want another one. She told me not to worry because she is good and she doesn't want that men after a session say she is not good, but something was wrong. The massage is an extra and while she explain me the other extras with the Palace extra menu (horrible thing in my opinion) she said "licking the pussy is another extra". The beginning of the end. I decided for the massage even if it was an extra. She was indeed good at it, but she was talking all the time asking "do you want to come in my mouth? I really like it" or saying "you are a very nice man, I'd really like you to come in my mouth". After the massage she asked me to turn and asked again to come in her mouth. I said no and she started to blow me with a condom. Worst blowjob ever. I started to panic and I asked for sex. I didn't come with the duo so I knew I was able to come quick with some dirty thinking. Doggy style. I think she was staying in bad position on purpose, she told me I was to big for her pussy which is definitly not true and she let it go out on purpose and said she had some pain on her pussy now and wanted to blow me. She asked again for the CIM and because I didn't want the same pathetic blowjob like before I said yes. My only revenge was that I normally have a lot of pressure when I don't come in a session so I came so hard that she had to cough and whined about it. Worst session ever, 150 euro. No kiss either during the entire session. I should have said something, but I didn't want to argue and in the end she did all that she said, just very bad. I don't get why a girl have to act like that. In the long term people know if someone is good or not. Bah.
Anyway, my last session was with the blond girl of the previous duo. I know, it seems a non sense, but something in her face was turning me on. Maybe the fact that she was looking to her self in every single mirror she found, looking to her hair even when she was sucking a cock. She started to blow me in the pool area and we went to a room. I told her I had only 50 euro left and she told me they have a atm inside, but I told her I already asked and it was only working with german cards and amex (non sense for the club tho). She started blowing me, looking her self in the mirror as always, adjusting her hair. And of course watching the clock every 30 secs. This, for some arcane reason, was turning me on, LOL. I asked for sex and she argued I wasn't ready, in fact it was not that hard. I told her I could do it and we started. Looking at her empty eyes while she was faking an orgasm turned me on and I came telling her "I told you I could". End of the session, 50 euro. Unfortunatly I don't remember her name. She is blond, blu eyes, pretty tall, german, with an average body, no good ass and no good tits. She was wearing a pink transparent dress. She's not good unless you are turned on by the same things I am. Maybe next time I'll try not to have any king of sex for 2 weeks and then go to palace and do a cim with her or the Polish girl, just to make fun of their reaction. Don't get me wrong, I have normally great respect for the girls and behave in the best possible way I can, even if they are riping me off. But these 2 (3 with the duo friend) made me understand that many of them have absolutly no respect for their paying customers.
In the end I probably did something wrong, I wasn't picking girls but just waiting for the ones coming, but I did more or less the same in world and didn't have a single rip-off in 2 times and 12 sessions. I think Palace owners should care a bit more about this, it's not good for a place to have the rip-off name, and I read somewhere here I'm not the only one who had this experience.
I'll try the palace again because for it's positioning but another experience like this and it will be my last time there. Too bad because there were many good looking girls but if the rip-off ratio stays like that it doesn't make sense to go there.
In the end: 4 girls. 4 sessions. 1 CIM. 1 duo. 450 euro + 75 euro entrance fee. Bad.
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Vito Corleone
01-12-09, 04:10
Hey dude-- you missed a couple, Denise's also with another girl in 64,65,66, and 67.
Wassup Beffen,
I didn't miss those. I think those were group shots & I was too lazy to type it.
Vito Corleone
01-12-09, 04:14
From what I know about wood alcohol, its not a good idea to ingest it. She can go blind.
& so can these dumb fuks who tip!
Vito Corleone
01-12-09, 12:50
No, you got me wrong:
Hauptbahnhof (Main Train Station) Frankfurt – Palace by walking: about 40 minutes (trough town, if you know the shortest way)
Hauptbahnhof Frankfurt – Palace with train /S-Bahn: about 15 minutes
I don't care neither how long it takes. But it might be interesting for those running short in time or have to plan carefully.
:–) Globus
You walk from the main station to Palace? Is it a scenic walk? Seems like a great way to warm up your engine before the main event.
You walk from the main station to Palace? Is it a scenic walk? Seems like a great way to warm up your engine before the main event.
I did it a couple of times, although usually I had a car. I wouldn't call it scenic, it's not bad neither. For those who haven't seen Frankfurt and want to have a bit of a feeling for the layout of the city, it's okay.
I remember reading in the Oase thread people doing longer walks to Oase, too. And yes, you're right it's a good warm-up!
:–) Globus
...I was resting near the pool when 2 german girls arrived. One with big boobs, nice ass, brown air a dark skin and one blond and tall. I told them I was tired and they asked me if I'd like to watch them licking each other doing a lesbo. At this point I was betrayed by my cock. I should have said no, I know duos are often pathetic but I thought they were friends and maybe good at it. Unfortunatly I wasn't right. They asked me 100 euro each for 30 mins of that, too bad they were very bad at faking and not that good at sex either. Hey Vinicio,
thanks for good reports here and in the World section.
To be fair to the place and the girls, I would not call the above quoted sessions a rip-off unless you are leaving something out of the report. The fact that the girls were not very good at what they were doing is not a rip-off, just a bad session. Sounds like they told you the price before you went with it and the price you paid was according to the set price before the session. Now if they promised to lick each other for the price and then did not, that is another thing, but sounds like they did what they said they would do but were just not good at it. Of course I was'nt there and you were and there may be things left out in your report, but purely from your description, I would not call it a rip-off.
Each can have a different meaning of a rip-off. IMO it is trying to charge for time that was not spent, charge for service that was not performed or inventing extra charges after the service is performed that is usually not regarded as extra. Bad session is just a bad session unless the girl is really trying to make it bad so you will cut it short which I would say is a rip-off.
Again, thanks for couple of great reports.
Spent a day at the Palace and met 4 girls;
Nicoletta (Italian). Perfect in my opinion. Early morning, showed me the club. Ended up in the cinema and thereafter 30 min in a room nearby. Friendly, smiling and service minded. Will definately meet again.
Gina (Czech). Smiling and friendly in public. Very professional in the room, wanted extra E 50 for 69 or kissing in the room. Will not repeat.
Jill (Polish). Smiling and friendly in public. Very busy in the room. More eager to sell extra (E 50 for intimate touching, 69 or kissing! ) than to provide a nice time. Will not repeat.
Lena or Elena (? ). Tall, dark with slightly "over the top" make-up. Germany / Iran. Had a full body suit with french opening. Very polite, nice, smiling and service minded. Nice time both in cinema and in the room. Will meet again.
The place it self is fantastic. Clean, tidy and professional. Nice food, good service and a perfect place to relax. I do not understand why the management not demand a better service from the girls.
My only FKK comparison is the FKK-Villa in Hannover. This is smaller, but also nice and clean with good food. Nice girls, and all naked all the time (I like that! ). Less action in public, some girls that only speak german, but a better atmosphere. My experience 3 of 4 girls very nice.
Hey Vinicio,
thanks for good reports here and in the World section.
To be fair to the place and the girls, I would not call the above quoted sessions a rip-off unless you are leaving something out of the report. The fact that the girls were not very good at what they were doing is not a rip-off, just a bad session. Sounds like they told you the price before you went with it and the price you paid was according to the set price before the session. Now if they promised to lick each other for the price and then did not, that is another thing, but sounds like they did what they said they would do but were just not good at it. Of course I was'nt there and you were and there may be things left out in your report, but purely from your description, I would not call it a rip-off.
Each can have a different meaning of a rip-off. IMO it is trying to charge for time that was not spent, charge for service that was not performed or inventing extra charges after the service is performed that is usually not regarded as extra. Bad session is just a bad session unless the girl is really trying to make it bad so you will cut it short which I would say is a rip-off.
Again, thanks for couple of great reports.You might be right, let's say it was borderline between a rip-off and a bad session. In my opinion it was very bad and probably not even 30 mins but I'm not sure about it because I didn't look at my watch very carefully. Ironically, I don't like to look too much to the watch, it seems rude for the girls, but some of them, and in this case these 2 girls, look at it all the time. In this case I could probably also finish in the 30 mins or less if they didn't start to ask me if I was coming and trying to upsell to a cim.
Anyway, this session plus the one with the polish gilr gave me a bad impression of palace, which I hope to change the next time I'll be there.
I remember reading in the Oase thread people doing longer walks to Oase, too. And yes, you're right it's a good warm-up!
:–) Globus
I can picture this as kind of pilgrimmage like the walk to Santiago de Compostela in Spain with pilgrims all bound by one common interest: pussy.
I can picture this as kind of pilgrimmage like the walk to Santiago de Compostela in Spain with pilgrims all bound by one common interest: pussy.
only made worse as it flashed through my mind of our devout ISGer's making the trek on their knees !!!! What would the girls think seeing them approach the door and filing in ?
[QUOTE=Henio]Each can have a different meaning of a rip-off. IMO it is trying to charge for time that was not spent, charge for service that was not performed or inventing extra charges after the service is performed that is usually not regarded as extra.[QUOTE]Like kissing, DATY, 69, massage (!), BBBJ?
Sorry but having these performed as an extra is definitely a rip - off in my book ! Or am I missing something and they are now considered extras at the palace ?
I mean is it clearly written on this famous "menus"?
If yes, very bad.
Basketcase
01-13-09, 23:26
I remember reading in the Oase thread people doing longer walks to Oase, too. And yes, you're right it's a good warm-up!
Hi Globus,
I sometimes make the 5 kilometre walk from Friedrichsdord bahnof to Oase walking along the side of the road. It is pretty much a straight line once past the bahnof. It takes me about 40-45 minutes to do. If it is really hot then you can leak some water that is obvious to the eye.
During the Summer time I did the walk to Oase many times as it was a really nice walk seeing the trees, the goats with the woolly coats, the horses, the birds, the apple fruit trees and smelling the strawberry field across the road from Oase.
It is shorter if you take the HLB from Friedrichsdorf to Burgholzhausen (BHH) since then it is a 2 kilometre walk to Oase and only 20 minutes to walk through the village. There is a Sparkasse in BHH to top up with euros and a fountain for water. Also sometimes I stop in the BHH park for a sit down to enjoy the weather or stop along the way.
Is the walk from the Frankfurt main train station to Palace less than 5 kilometres?
Vito Corleone
01-14-09, 00:37
I did it a couple of times, although usually I had a car. I wouldn't call it scenic, it's not bad neither. For those who haven't seen Frankfurt and want to have a bit of a feeling for the layout of the city, it's okay.
I remember reading in the Oase thread people doing longer walks to Oase, too. And yes, you're right it's a good warm-up!
:–) Globus
If the weather is nice, I take the local train from Giessen to Garbenteich then walk to World. About 20-25 minute walk through Garbenteich & Polheim.
only made worse as it flashed through my mind of our devout ISGer's making the trek on their knees !!!! What would the girls think seeing them approach the door and filing in ?
.. that this would be, indeed, a very bizarre image. :)
Hi Globus,
Is the walk from the Frankfurt main train station to Palace less than 5 kilometres?
Hi LBC
Definetely. I would say it's about 3 kilometres.
Check maps at google if you're not familiar or sure with the directions
http://maps.google.ch/maps?hl=de&tab=wl&q=Frankfurt
Cheers and happy walking, Globus
Hi LBC
Definetely. I would say it's about 3 kilometres.
Check maps at google if you're not familiar or sure with the directions
http://maps.google.ch/maps?hl=de&tab=wl&q=Frankfurt
Cheers and happy walking, Globus
There are also several reasonably priced hotels along that line of walk making it easy to exit the main train station and have a halfway point to reach before hitting Palace.
Hi friends,
I will be landing at Frankfurt airport, can someone tell me which hotel should I take nearest to this club, any GPS co-ordinates of this club.
Many thanks,
Braveboy
1. Hotel IBIS (Frankfurt West), Breitenbachstr. 7, Frankfurt
is about 400m from Palace
2. FLEMING'S HOTEL an der Neuen Börse, Elbinger Str. 1-3, Frankfurt
is literally next door
The Palace thread appears to be the only one with several conversations regarding bad service, perceptions of bad service, definitions of bad service, and debates on bad service.
From all this I conclude that of all the FKK clubs in Germany, Palace is the one where you need to be on your guard, itemize each sex act, and pin down the price.
I prefer to relax and not have to worry about being ripped off.
So, whats the story? Is the place more risky than other FKK's or not? I live equal distances from both Oase and Palace, but have been avoiding Palace based on the negative reports.
From my 2008 notes:
Oase:
About 40 sessions. Most sessions were great/fantastic, the rest adequate/average/mediocre. No rip-offs. Rip-off ratio: 0%
Palace:
7 sessions. 3 great, 2 mediocre, 2 rip-offs. Rip-off ratio: 28%.
2008 was a bad Palace year for me. I usually do better.
If I stick the girls I know in Palace, I usually do ok. But whenever I try someone new, it's harder. This is what makes Oase such a great place for me. Always something new and exciting, and it rarely goes wrong.
World:
3 sessions. 2 great, 1 mediocre. No rip-offs. Great ratios, but too often I find it just too hard to find my way out of BHH ... ;-)
Just my two cents. But at least based on my own experience.
Ekliges Lauern
01-16-09, 01:47
The Palace thread appears to be the only one with several conversations regarding bad service, perceptions of bad service, definitions of bad service, and debates on bad service.
I think pretty much everyone's opinion on this subject can be found in this thread, but by all means, let's flog this dead horse one more time....
Basketcase
01-16-09, 03:34
Magic191,
Yes, I find that there is the odd girl that asks for extra €50 for girlfriend experience like DFK, 69, slower pace at Palace. I have not found this surcharge at any other FKK and definitely not in my usual home of Oase.
Gina (Czech) is a case in point as you have experienced and paid for with at least €100 for a standard session. I also have succumbed to the €100 for 30 minutes if you want a GFE as opposed to a less than pleasant suck and fuck. To me I could not tell the difference between the high standard service and the low standard service.
Jill (Poland) I am less familiar with at Palace.
However, in saying that, Palace does have wonderful facilities and is so much more convenient to get to than World. I would go to World more often if it was closer to Frankfurt. I mean to pay €60 return by taking a train and taxi combo is a bit much when you can do the same run to Palace for say €5 return by train and to Oase for €25.40 train/taxi combo.
Palace is as you say clean, tidy and professional. Attentive bar staff - I always have to wait for a drink at World so I end up drinking copius cups of self serve tea from the dining room. At Oase I am happy with the bar staff.
I think and this is just me thinking - the girls are independent contractors and the management cannot ask them to perform since it would suggest some control (maybe even pimping) over the girls. The rate seems to be what the girls charge and if the guys are happy to pay extra €50 for kissing and performing 69 then that becomes the going rate asked of all punters.
You paint a brilliant picture of FKK Villa in Hannover, however, I have no inclination to make my way that far North to sample that club.
Cheers,
Londonbasketcase
Gina (Czech). Smiling and friendly in public. Very professional in the room, wanted extra E 50 for 69 or kissing in the room. Will not repeat.
Jill (Polish). Smiling and friendly in public. Very busy in the room. More eager to sell extra (E 50 for intimate touching, 69 or kissing! ) than to provide a nice time. Will not repeat.
The place it self is fantastic. Clean, tidy and professional. Nice food, good service and a perfect place to relax. I do not understand why the management not demand a better service from the girls.
My only FKK comparison is the FKK-Villa in Hannover. This is smaller, but also nice and clean with good food. Nice girls, and all naked all the time (I like that! ). Less action in public, some girls that only speak german, but a better atmosphere.
The Palace thread appears to be the only one with several conversations regarding bad service, perceptions of bad service, definitions of bad service, and debates on bad service.
From all this I conclude that of all the FKK clubs in Germany, Palace is the one where you need to be on your guard, itemize each sex act, and pin down the price.
I prefer to relax and not have to worry about being ripped off.
So, whats the story? Is the place more risky than other FKK's or not? I live equal distances from both Oase and Palace, but have been avoiding Palace based on the negative reports.
There has been enough written on this topic in this thread.
In the end you have to decide for yourself if this place is your cup of tea. It sure ain't mine.
Ekliges Lauern
01-16-09, 04:22
Palace:
... 2 mediocre, 2 rip-offs. ...
I checked your 2008 reports and could not find any mention of these incidents. Care to help us out with names and details so we mongers that like the place can avoid the ladies in question?
Or is the point simply to bash Palace? To paraphrase one of our distinguished senior members, one has to wonder if some of the Palace bashers have a financial interest in competing clubs. Not that I believe that, but that's how crazy this whole discussion gets.
The Palace thread appears to be the only one with several conversations regarding bad service, perceptions of bad service, definitions of bad service, and debates on bad service.
From all this I conclude that of all the FKK clubs in Germany, Palace is the one where you need to be on your guard, itemize each sex act, and pin down the price.
I prefer to relax and not have to worry about being ripped off.
I have to disagree with this. I'm not any better or worse than the average experienced hobbyist at this game. I have been taken or attempted to be at PHG, GT, and World. The instance at World fwiw, was that the girl was sweet outside, terrible inside trying to get me to hurry and making the sex miserable so I would just finish. To me that's a rip off session although not out and out stealing. OTOH the worst service I ever had at Palace was a girl that was attractive but absolutely miserable in the room... sad thing is she was trying to be a good lay she just didn't seem to understand sex. I do know there are some sharks in Palace, no doubt about it. But these girls that will try to take you for a little extra or provide bad service are everywhere, even if there are a few more in Palace than other places. Girls with crappy attitudes and "bad" intentions aren't barred from working in other clubs. Oh, I should add there was a girl in Palace who claimed to be Panamanian or something and was probably Dominican, she was a bad lay. I consider her a rip off type session. But it happens. I should have know though, sometimes it's not all that well hidden, I just didn't listen to my instincts. But it happens just about everywhere at some point in time to some people.
I checked your 2008 reports and could not find any mention of these incidents. Care to help us out with names and details so we mongers that like the place can avoid the ladies in question?
Or is the point simply to bash Palace? To paraphrase one of our distinguished senior members, one has to wonder if some of the Palace bashers have a financial interest in competing clubs. Not that I believe that, but that's how crazy this whole discussion gets.
You will have noticed that most of the most extreme Palace-bashers have not put feet in it in the last couple of years....
Vito Corleone
01-16-09, 13:29
The Palace thread appears to be the only one with several conversations regarding bad service, perceptions of bad service, definitions of bad service, and debates on bad service.
From all this I conclude that of all the FKK clubs in Germany, Palace is the one where you need to be on your guard, itemize each sex act, and pin down the price.
I prefer to relax and not have to worry about being ripped off.
So, whats the story? Is the place more risky than other FKK's or not? I live equal distances from both Oase and Palace, but have been avoiding Palace based on the negative reports.
I've had girls try to rip me off @ Palace, World, Oase & GT. I also think there is a big difference between bad sessions & rip offs which some people seem to think is the same.
Palace seems to have more women who are looking to process as many clueless clients as possible. These women are @ all the big clubs & some people seem to be in denial. Palace seems to average more than the other clubs. These women give average service @ best & the more experienced client might considers this bad service, rip offs or sharky. This might be, but just receiving a bbbj from a hot babe is great service for some visiting from another country. In the US, this would be considered out of this world GFE & the price range starting @ a minimum of $300.
If some tourist gets a bbbj then sex for a total of 15 minutes, he is usually a very happy guy. The more experienced guy will check his watch & see the guy was out in 15 minutes then think she gives bad/rush service. The happy tourist is ecstatic he received a bbbj from some hot model looking babe & did not care if she kissed, cuddled, eye contact during oral & etc.
Since most of the Palace chicks seem to satisfy these tourists with what some might consider average service, they really do not need to go out of their way to satisfy the experienced client. The girls might think they are giving decent service & the experienced local with think he might be getting ripped off. Sometimes I ask a guy after if the session was any good & the first timers are usually very happy.
I think Cindy from Slovakia is a good example. Average session @ best with little passion & close to zero energy. Dead fish. I always look for her when visiting Palace because she is drop dead gorgeous, tall, tight & toned playboy bunny bod & watching her pretty face go up & down my cock is priceless. The experienced client will think this is borderline rob & the newbie client is going home bragging to all his friends he banged a playboy playmate & jerking off in his shower just thinking about her.
I also think Czech Lina/Angelina can be YMMV. Some experienced isgers reported below average service, zero service, upselling, no kissing & etc. When I first met her (Dec 2008), I can tell she was sizing me up & she is a pretty sharp girl. Once in the room she did mention CIM was extra which was fine with me. She mentioned it in the beginning & I do not consider it upselling. After 2 days I had 4 really good sessions with her & received great service. Kissing, dfk & first class bbbj for the standard 50E. No rush. Took her time & aimed to please. I also noticed her going in & out of rooms with guys within 10-15 minutes. All the guys just blew their load from her bj. They all seemed happy.
I have had a few bad sessions & 1 chick asked for an extra 50E because she worked really hard. Whatever that means. I've had some women @ Oase ask for the same reason. Only 1 girl tried to rip me off. Solome from Brazil. Great session with plenty of passion & dfk, but tried to get an extra 50E claiming we were in the room for 31 minutes. I always wear a watch & I always check during a session. I make sure I am out of the room by 28-29 minutes. She was adamant about the time & I told her to relax & mentioned she owed me 2 minutes. I told her we can talk to the front desk, but she just got upset & called me names. Too bad because she was a great session.
In 2006, 1 Romanian b***h had the balls to refuse service unless I paid 100E for a standard 30 minute session. Not extras like CIM, kissing, daty. There was a group of 5-6 hot Romanians clock blocking my friend & I with the same ridiculous tactics so I refused to visit Palace for 1 year. I forgot their names, but those cunts are no longer there.
I have had more below average/bad sessions @ Oase than any other club. A few hot babes have tried to rip me off, but Oase is still one of my favorite clubs. I visit these clubs to have a good time & refuse to let 1 bad session ruin my trip. I am there to indulge & a small possible shark bite will not keep me from visiting a club.
Now, I can understand a guy feeling reluctant to visit Palace if traveling from abroad or FKK rookie. It seems silly to avoid the place if you live near. Why let some bad reports keep you from banging some hot babes. Visit & report back.
You will have noticed that most of the most extreme Palace-bashers have not put feet in it in the last couple of years....
When the natives (read this to mean "non-tourists") start raving about this place, it will be time to return.
Hope springs eternal though. Why do you think we continue to read this thread?
Maybe one day this club will be stocked with proverbial "hookers with a heart of gold".
In the meanwhile, each person has to decide for himself what is best.
There are so many clubs and so little time and money to throw around.
I've taken the point of view that one should pick an "orbit" and stick with it. My orbit is NRW and it centers on certain small clubs which provide a sure thing, are a good value, where the women recognize me as a Stammkunde (I'm not into impersonal experiences) and where the women speak German (My Polish consists of a few phrases and my Romanian and Bulgarian is non-existent).
I have no expectations that anyone else shares my view of the world.
When the natives (read this to mean "non-tourists") start raving about this place, it will be time to return.
Hope springs eternal though. Why do you think we continue to read this thread?
Maybe one day this club will be stocked with proverbial "hookers with a heart of gold".
In the meanwhile, each person has to decide for himself what is best.
There are so many clubs and so little time and money to throw around.
I've taken the point of view that one should pick an "orbit" and stick with it. My orbit is NRW and it centers on certain small clubs which provide a sure thing, are a good value, where the women recognize me as a Stammkunde (I'm not into impersonal experiences) and where the women speak German (My Polish consists of a few phrases and my Romanian and Bulgarian is non-existent).
I have no expectations that anyone else shares my view of the world.
Well, Jackyo, I ain't no native, aber ich bin oft im Club. In fact I've just returned from a several days journey through clubs both in Frankfurt and in NWR. I was at Palace two nights ago (Weds) and I can tell you I saw/experienced the best line-up of girls from any of the clubs I visited...the best BY FAR!!! I was at Oase, World, F39, Living Room and GoldenTime in addition to Palace. All clubs had pretty good selections given the time of year and current economy, etc. However, Palace on that Weds night stood out as one of the best collections of hot, ethnically diverse and ever so cute/sexy girls I've seen since the heyday of Atlantis. Yes, there was a huge Messe event on, and this obviously contributed to the better than average selection that night. But unlike last year when the place just became over-run and very bad mongering conditions, this time they seemed to get it right and it was not an unpleasant experience at all!
My advise to anybody Fkking in Frankfurt tonight: Head to Palace to check it out! There were girls from all over the FKK universe, not just Palace regulars!
I was really happy at both Oase and World, but when I stepped into Palace last Weds night, I was just blown away by the choice and quality there!
Now having said all that, let me add that I was also at Palace last Sunday night and it was terrible. So you have to take into account the ebb and flow from day to day in these clubs.
I tend to agree with Radler et al who believe that Palace is targeted by people as a club with just bad girls. Yes there are some extreme cases here, but as I and others have consistently maintained: You must select the right partner and take advantage of the opportunities to test the chemistry in Kino or on couch. I wish to add: If you scroll back a few days on the World thread, you will see a discussion of one of the top girls there charging a guy for time waiting for a room! The truth is that you can be ripped off in any club, just there are more reports about it at Palace and because it is easy to reach more newbies go there thus more sad cases of guys not knowing how to "pick the correct fruit from the trees."
Ortos
I checked your 2008 reports and could not find any mention of these incidents. Care to help us out with names and details so we mongers that like the place can avoid the ladies in question?.
Sure, no problem:
- Sabrina, Venezuela/Colombia
- Daniela, Colombia (should not be confused with Daniela, Romania, who, at least in my eyes, has a good rep.).
Sorry for not reporting before, but they are both reported by others as scams in this very thread, so repeating it seems to me to be pretty abundant. But here goes:
Both rip-offs were very similar: Superfriendly outside the room, great DFK, but once in the room they insisted on charging EUR 100/150 per half hour for "good service" (which only included standard services). When I said I knew the pricing for standard services and wanted to pay the standard fee of EUR 50, they did everything to ruin my mood and cut the session short. Eventually I gave in after 15 and 25 mnts. respectively.
Or is the point simply to bash Palace? To paraphrase one of our distinguished senior members, one has to wonder if some of the Palace bashers have a financial interest in competing clubs. Not that I believe that, but that's how crazy this whole discussion gets.
LOL. Yeah, I know these discussions get out of proportions and should have known better. But trust me, I tried only to give a balanced and honest response to Mahaba's questions - based on my own 2008 experiences. I am completely aware that one man's experience does not give the whole picture, but at least I shared my experience.
If you read my report again, you will find that I do not bash Palace. One major point for me was to illustrate in figures what the rip-off risk is (for me, an average Joe). I think this is relevant, as the genuine Palace basher will say that it is nearly impossible to get a decent session in Palace, while the Palace defender will say it is at least as good as any other place (if not better). My experience: 70- 75% of my sessions there were satisfactory (average to great). In previous years maybe 80- 85%. If your background is RLD business from Reeperbahn in Hamburg, these rates should be good news. If you firmly believe that FKK in a place like Palace is a risk-free environment, then think again. And in case you wonder, I am still a regular Palace visitor (although not as frequent as before). Why? Because it is so damn conveniently placed close to the Messe and a major international airport (FRA), and it still is the better alternative to the RLD when time is too short to go elsewhere.
Rip-offs can happen everywhere. But it just does not happen that often - to me - in Oase and World. I dont have the exact figures for my four years in Hessen, but let's say the chances of rip-off there is less than 5%. I am sure others have different experiences.
Again, I have only reported my own experience and the reader of this thread need to read more reports to get the whole picture.
I wish the bashing and anti-bashing will come to an end. What this thread needs is honest reports of what we experience at this place - without the hysteria.
Ekliges Lauern
01-17-09, 00:39
You will have noticed that most of the most extreme Palace-bashers have not put feet in it in the last couple of years....
[DEAD HORSE FLOGGING MODE]
Yes I have. I have two theories. The first is they are still trying to punish the club over the price increase from 65 E to 75 E. The second is that they need validation for their judgements from others.
[/DEAD HORSE FLOGGING MODE]
Time to head over to the Bernds thread and rekindle the Omas of Bernds flame war.
Or maybe I can ask about the photography policy at Villa Vertigo.
Ekliges Lauern
01-17-09, 01:01
I wish the bashing and anti-bashing will come to an end. What this thread needs is honest reports of what we experience at this place - without the hysteria.
Agreed. More data on the ladies is in everyone's interest, or at least in the interest of those that actually go to the club. The endless Palace good/evil back and forth seems to be of interest only to those that don't go there.
I mean, really, if you want to know what any of the ISG members who regularly post think of Palace, do a search. It's there (at least five times over).
I think if this revives one more time I may have to do the "What does (fill in the blank) think of Palace" FAQ.
Ekliges Lauern
01-17-09, 01:43
I think and this is just me thinking - the girls are independent contractors and the management cannot ask them to perform since it would suggest some control (maybe even pimping) over the girls. The rate seems to be what the girls charge and if the guys are happy to pay extra €50 for kissing and performing 69 then that becomes the going rate asked of all punters.
For the record, I've never had a girl ask me for 50 Euro for kissing/GFE or any non-standard extra at Palace or any other club. I have had girls at both Palace and Oase ask for 100 Euro for CIM. I alway politely say I know the standard price and decline.
I'm not sure why this tactic is not used on me (I don't doubt the posters such as LBC which run into it). I think it is either the women I select or it is that I have been there enough and have repeated with enough women that I am considered a regular.
I've got to say that if you agree to non-standard pricing, I don't have much sympathy. You are free to say no (and encouraged to do so). Sometimes saying no snaps the girls back into line. And sometime it doesn't.
My advise to anybody Fkking in Frankfurt tonight: Head to Palace to check it out! There were girls from all over the FKK universe, not just Palace regulars!
I will echo this point of view, by the way.
Hessen Bub
01-17-09, 15:30
I would call myself a "native" and I do visit Palace regularly. Line-up this week was great cause of the "Heimtextil". Not to busy regarding men, but lots of great girls. Found Monika from Hungary (Ex-World, Arte, Paradise) now working there.
HB
So, whats the story? Is the place more risky than other FKK's or not?Mahaba,
may I summarize? Yes. Riskier. Doesn't mean you'll not have a great time with what are considered by many - including me - to be the best looking girls in FKK-land.
1)
Those considered to be Palace-bashers have had bad experiences, and have reported their opinions, and generally given detailed reasons why they have come to these opinions. I belong to this group for my sins. I wish I didn't.
2)
Those considered to be Palace-basher-bashers have had good experiences and are clearly much better choosers than me, and they disagree. I accept that. Others can't, seemingly, and they are the Palace-basher-basher-bashers. This interestingly may make them simultaneously Palace-bashers and Palace-basher-basher-bashers, but the issue may in due course be open to more refinement. Watch this space.
Alles klar?
It's your call, so go there and join in the debate.
Hi,
I need some help. I have visited many FKKs but I have never visited World and Palace.
My questions:
Which one is better?
Are the girls totally naked in both clubs?
Can u get a BJ in the club before getting in the room?
Tks in advance for the tips!!
Vito Corleone
01-18-09, 09:49
I would call myself a "native" and I do visit Palace regularly. Line-up this week was great cause of the "Heimtextil". Not to busy regarding men, but lots of great girls. Found Monika from Hungary (Ex-World, Arte, Paradise) now working there.
HB
Wassup HB,
Have you seen Mona? Missed her my last trip (early Dec).
Vito Corleone
01-18-09, 10:13
For the record, I've never had a girl ask me for 50 Euro for kissing/GFE or any non-standard extra at Palace or any other club. I have had girls at both Palace and Oase ask for 100 Euro for CIM. I alway politely say I know the standard price and decline.
I'm not sure why this tactic is not used on me (I don't doubt the posters such as LBC which run into it). I think it is either the women I select or it is that I have been there enough and have repeated with enough women that I am considered a regular.
Czech Gina qouted the same prices when I did her last year. 50E for a regular session & 100E for a special session (kissing, daty, cuddling & etc.). She was an ok session, but a good sport fcuk. She is 1 hot babe & she seems to have plenty of customers.
A few women have also mentioned the 50E extra for kissing @ GT, Oase & World, but these were some seriously gorgeous babes. 50E extra for kissing is silly, but it did not stop me from having a good sport fcuk.
I think the reason this does not happen to you is because your taste in women is a little different from me & LBC. LBC & I generally lust after the same women, so this could be the reason why we sometimes experience the extra menu offer. Some of the women you sessioned with were not exactly my type. No knock on your desires, but there seems to be a remote chance of those women charging extra for kissing, daty & etc.
Your status as a regular could also be the case. Not quite sure what my FKK status is other than a guy who loves banging as many hot babes my legs & johnson can handle.
Vito Corleone
01-18-09, 10:18
Or maybe I can ask about the photography policy at Villa Vertigo.
I know those guys that were involved & they most likely have more FKK cred than you & I combined. Great guys to hang & go FKK hoping with.
czech gina qouted the same prices when i did her last year. 50e for a regular session & 100e for a special session (kissing, daty, cuddling & etc.). she was an ok session, but a good sport fcuk. she is 1 hot babe & she seems to have plenty of customers.
a few women have also mentioned the 50e extra for kissing @ gt, oase & world, but these were some seriously gorgeous babes. 50e extra for kissing is silly, but it did not stop me from having a good sport fcuk.
i think the reason this does not happen to you is because your taste in women is a little different from me & lbc. lbc & i generally lust after the same women, so this could be the reason why we sometimes experience the extra menu offer. some of the women you sessioned with were not exactly my type. no knock on your desires, but there seems to be a remote chance of those women charging extra for kissing, daty & etc.
your status as a regular could also be the case. not quite sure what my fkk status is other than a guy who loves banging as many hot babes my legs & johnson can handle.
i remember, about a year or so ago, the first time i laid eyes on gina from czech at palace. sure i was interested, though physically she had that "i am so hot aren't i" type of vibe around her. when she chatted me up for a session at the high bar --which is her mo-- she immediately started to pitch this 50e extra for gfe-type session. until this point we spoke in english. but when she mentioned that extra-for-kissing scampoint, i immediately switched to deutsch and said: "das ist kwatch!" and explained to her that i was not a newbie and had dozens of girls here who provided me with gfe sessions without the 50e surcharge. on all my subsequent visits to palace, she always smiled at me, but never, ever came back to chat me up again. i think she knew she was trying to pull something over on me, and knew i could see right through her. by the way, in recent times, she tends to hang out with other czech (or slovakian???) so-called top acts lina and angelina back by the whirlpool deck behind the bar. this trio are in my book all a bit sharky in their sessioning approach and i feel myself that i would never get the type of "semi-authentic" gfe i seek from any of these girls. (funny, i do get it from czech linda, though, big-time!)
vito speculates above that part of the reason he (along with lbc) gets hit for these extra bits by some girls whilst guys like radler and others do not is because of the type/category of girl they go after, i.e. optifucks types. well i tend to fall more into radler's girl type myself and am not necessarily an optifuck man. (however, vito, we do share some girl interests, like lena of sk at oase, for example). but there are other similar points between you and lbc that radler and others of us do not share: a)both you guys do not speak much german; b) both of you share broadly similar ethnic features to the eyes of many ee girls at least; c) both of you are probably spoken about in the girl-to-girl grapevine as "big spenders" and/or easy session targets. one of you is known to take certain girls for multi-hour sessions, etc.
these factors may all combine to make certain girls try this extra-for-kissing scam. this is pure speculation on my part, but it may make sense. i bet if you spoke german more fluently, than these girls might not try it on you. or am i out of order here...?
anyway, for fans of czech gina at palace, fwiw, i did not see her working at palace last week, but she sure was there before x-mas in early december.
ortos
i remember, about a year or so ago, the first time i laid eyes on gina from czech at palace. sure i was interested, though physically she had that "i am so hot aren't i" type of vibe around her. when she chatted me up for a session at the high bar --which is her mo-- she immediately started to pitch this 50e extra for gfe-type session. until this point we spoke in english. but when she mentioned that extra-for-kissing scampoint, i immediately switched to deutsch and said: "das ist kwatch!" and explained to her that i was not a newbie and had dozens of girls here who provided me with gfe sessions without the 50e surcharge. on all my subsequent visits to palace, she always smiled at me, but never, ever came back to chat me up again. i think she knew she was trying to pull something over on me, and knew i could see right through her. by the way, in recent times, she tends to hang out with other czech (or slovakian???) so-called top acts lina and angelina back by the whirlpool deck behind the bar. this trio are in my book all a bit sharky in their sessioning approach and i feel myself that i would never get the type of "semi-authentic" gfe i seek from any of these girls. (funny, i do get it from czech linda, though, big-time!)
vito speculates above that part of the reason he (along with lbc) gets hit for these extra bits by some girls whilst guys like radler and others do not is because of the type/category of girl they go after, i.e. optifucks types. well i tend to fall more into radler's girl type myself and am not necessarily an optifuck man. (however, vito, we do share some girl interests, like lena of sk at oase, for example). but there are other similar points between you and lbc that radler and others of us do not share: a)both you guys do not speak much german; b) both of you share broadly similar ethnic features to the eyes of many ee girls at least; c) both of you are probably spoken about in the girl-to-girl grapevine as "big spenders" and/or easy session targets. one of you is known to take certain girls for multi-hour sessions, etc.
these factors may all combine to make certain girls try this extra-for-kissing scam. this is pure speculation on my part, but it may make sense. i bet if you spoke german more fluently, than these girls might not try it on you. or am i out of order here...?
anyway, for fans of czech gina at palace, fwiw, i did not see her working at palace last week, but she sure was there before x-mas in early december.
ortos
hey professor, my esteemed first guide to fkk world, long time no see. miss ya.
as i mentioned recently i was hit up for this surcharge by a famous palace migrant to fkkworld, the famous charlie had gone to world for the rich feeding grounds of the christmas party. in my case though, we spent a good fifteen minutes by the vip room alcove making out and heavy petting against the wall in front of the holiday throngs as we waited for a good room. then it was a very dirty (in more ways than one) full 30 minute pse with dfk so i didn't mind too much paying 100. when she asked for another 100 for another half hour with kissing, i said enough is enough, beatch.
usually when a girl asks me for 50 euro for the "special session" and i am hot for her, i don't miss a beat and say- you mean nice relaxed kissing, licking and sucking and fucking for 1 hour, right, we take our time? usually works out great- that half hungarian (or was it czech) -half something else tall brunette supermodel- what was her name?? was one of those and i got a great hour out of her, quite geil but still professional though.
also andra, the gorgeous christina aguilera doppelganger blonde romanian teen, famous for trying on bogus extras, on our first date, hit me in the room with kissing is extra. when i protested that she should have told me before we came inside and i said ok for for 1 hour, she acceded and turned into a super gfe which i repeated twice and will always remember fondly lol.
on the other hand, if its a girl i'm only marginally interested in or a fugly one, i just laugh and say ok, bye. my point is, girls who try on the special session extra routine shouldn't be rejected out of hand, sometime one can turn this around for a great outcome.
Basketcase
01-18-09, 18:33
Hi, I need some help. I have visited many FKKs but I have never visited World and Palace. My questions: Which one is better? Are the girls totally naked in both clubs? Can u get a BJ in the club before getting in the room? Tks in advance for the tips!!
Guten Tag Mikedee,
Can I answer your question with a question myself? Which are the many FKKs that you have visited? This piece of information may help guide the response.
My suggestion is take two days and visit both World and Palace or if you are up for it and maybe a motor vehicle to hand visit both in the one day if you are short of time taking one club in the day time and the other club in the night time. Some ijsberen I know did World until 9pm then went to Oase afterwards the same night arriving around 9:40pm with 7.25 hours still to go before close time as Oase closes at 5am that weekend night. Palace closes at 4am and tends to have its girl complement stay to the end. World seems to start having ladies filtering out earlier in my experience. Can others correct me on whether all the night shift girls at World stay right to the end.
I am not sure what criteria that you are judging better by - quality of girls, variety of girls, facilities like saunas, steam rooms, kino, food, music quality? If you want the fuller variety of girls then try Palace and if its beauty quotient then from the recent reports from Januar 2009 it seems that Palace has the edge as well. I think World and Palace do decent enough food - anything is better than Oase food. I give Palace the edge on being more international style in its food line up and World for hearty Deutsch fayre.
The girls in Palace and World are meant to be totally naked but tend to wear a waist wrap or towel around themselves. Girls at Palace seems to be more inclined to have some lingerie or other accoutrement whereas at World the girls tend to be more naked with only a smaller number with the full on waist wrap/skirt or towel. Oase girls tend to be totally naked with a few in waist wraps or skirts.
Yes you can get a BJ in the main room area but this tends to be the kino if in Palace. There can be kissing at Palace in the main room as well. It is rare to see someone get a full on BBBJ in Palace but you do see it.
In World it is rarer to receive public action apart from kissing in my experience. I do not know why - World is so big with so many places to hide that it si quite conducive to public action - but it does not seem to be the done thing there. The kino is almost always empty - it is a rare thing to see action on the couches in World.
Oase is the place if you want full on action in the main area but even there most action is confined to the kino. At times the kino is standing room only as all the couches are full of copulating couples. The Golden Time sauna club kino in NRW can be like National Geographic with like couples on each couch and mattress getting it on when the all the rooms are busy. In Oase I have had action in the main lounge area, the relax area, the hallway and the whirlpool area.
My recommendation is to go to Oase except if its the food that you term as the criteria for better.
Keep cool,
Londonbasketcase
Ekliges Lauern
01-18-09, 18:33
I think the reason this does not happen to you is because your taste in women is a little different from me & LBC. LBC & I generally lust after the same women, so this could be the reason why we sometimes experience the extra menu offer. Some of the women you sessioned with were not exactly my type. No knock on your desires, but there seems to be a remote chance of those women charging extra for kissing, daty & etc.
Your status as a regular could also be the case. Not quite sure what my FKK status is other than a guy who loves banging as many hot babes my legs & johnson can handle.
True enough, buit I tend to go Optifick about 10% of the time. It is an itch that needs to be scratched, fucking beautiful women just because they are beautiful. My tastes in beautiful women seems to be broader than yours and LBCs, for example the Indian-German girl at Oase, her name escapes me at present, I consider extremely beautiful and I doubt she would turn your or LBCs head.
That said, once in a while I do go after a woman that both you and LBC would find hot. Case in point, Czech Lena at Palace. I've sessioned with her a couple of times and it was a no-bullshit GFE session with no upselling or special charges. I think the difference was that she had heard through her friend Linda that I am good for 100 E by providing CIM. When LBC crashed and burned, I think she had learned from Angelina that LBC was good for 100 E for the GFE session. The price point had been set and Lena wanted the same comp as her friend Angelina.
If you agree to the 100 E GFE session, all girls in her girl-vine will come to expect it as well. If you say no, word will get around as well.
I do think German helps. And as I only pop in every month or two, my story that I am there on business is plausable.
In the end, it is your choice whether to accept non-standard pricing. I don't, because I choose to reward girls I like with either CIM or repeat with them. Recognize by accepting non-standard pricing, you create the expectation from the girls she talks to as well.
Ekliges Lauern
01-18-09, 18:46
It's your call, so go there and join in the debate.
Or not.
Don't get me wrong. If you do go, please post a report with the good and the bad including the names and descriptions of the girls you are with.
This is not a "debate", it has become a religious argument. It is a debate in the same sense that the Crusades was a religious disagreement. Similar to the Crusades, it is of interest only to the side invading the holy lands. In this case the Crusaders are the Palace-bashers and the holy land is the Palace thread. Also, like the Crusades it just keeps going on endlessly.
Finally, like the Crusaders, the Palace-bashers have a religious conviction of the correctness of their position and desire to convert the heathans that disagree.
Perhaps it is time for the heathens to declare Jihad on the Bernds thread.
Hessen Bub
01-19-09, 19:34
Wassup HB,
Have you seen Mona? Missed her my last trip (early Dec).
Yes, saw her middle of last week. She invested some EUROs into silicone and had her tits done. She was wearing a bra so I can't really tell how much she did put, but it did look reasonable for her petite body.
HB
Basketcase
01-19-09, 21:58
Hello Radler,
How is it going?
I tend to go Optifick about 10% of the time. It is an itch that needs to be scratched, fucking beautiful women just because they are beautiful. My tastes in beautiful women seems to be broader than yours and LBCs,
I agree that your taste in women is way broader than mine. I get a lot of ribbing from my London crew about my particular tastes. I do like pretty girls. They have to really work hard to find something I like when they host and stage a private party to get me to come along and spend pounds sterling on pay for play. Now that some have been to Deutschland they can see what has attracted me there but they still think it expensive and see better alternatives in Thailand or even in London when looking at fully loaded costs. There are a lot of beautiful women but then there are a lot of ordinary looking women too. When one is paying for it I like to think I am puchasing that fantasy as well with my hard earned sterling money that has to be converted to an ever appreciating euro note.
That said, once in a while I do go after a woman that both you and LBC would find hot. Case in point, Czech Lena at Palace. I've sessioned with her a couple of times and it was a no-bullshit GFE session with no upselling or special charges. I think the difference was that she had heard through her friend Linda that I am good for 100 E by providing CIM. When LBC crashed and burned, I think she had learned from Angelina that LBC was good for 100 E for the GFE session. The price point had been set and Lena wanted the same comp as her friend Angelina.
The reason I crashed and burned was that Lena was not offering kissing and I was keen on a session that would have some kissing. Angelina had been saying she does not offer kissing and her friend Lena would not as well. No talk of extra €50 for kissing and GFE arose.
Lena did not have much a say in the matter as Angelina was doing the negotiating for Lena for her services. I declined on the basis that I was just getting a suck and fuck which seemed to be getting worse by the minute as Angelina upped the stakes by saying that I was welcome to a threesome with both Angelina and Lena. I declined that offer as well. Lena ended the dialogue with "maybe we could catch up later that evening". That catch up did not happen.
I find Lena not unattractive but Lena does not turn me on like say Gina (Czech) with the young slender big boobed blue eyed beach blond looks.
I do think German helps. And as I only pop in every month or two, my story that I am there on business is plausable.
My cover that "I am in town on business" is blown now. The girls have seen through me and know I am visiting just for the punting since I am in the clubs so often. I can't have that much business in Germany. I have just had to go with that. I have seen the same girls doing the Hessen circuit and the NRW circuit and even in Atermis in Berlin. These girls know that I get around but realise that Oase is my main venue.
I even get girls asking me about the scene in London and what it is like to work there and some girls ask for tips on getting cheap flights around Europe. All my planning on different ways to get to Frankfurt and NRW area is now paying of in a topic of conversation with the girls.
In the end, it is your choice whether to accept non-standard pricing. I don't, because I choose to reward girls I like with either CIM or repeat with them. Recognize by accepting non-standard pricing, you create the expectation from the girls she talks to as well.
I am beginning to do the same. My best girls get the CIM bonus or lots of repeat business from me. Maybe I am maturing into the hobby?
Keep it real and keep cool,
Londonbasketcase
Basketcase
01-19-09, 22:13
This is not a "debate", it has become a religious argument. It is a debate in the same sense that the Crusades was a religious disagreement. Similar to the Crusades, it is of interest only to the side invading the holy lands. In this case the Crusaders are the Palace-bashers and the holy land is the Palace thread. Also, like the Crusades it just keeps going on endlessly.
Finally, like the Crusaders, the Palace-bashers have a religious conviction of the correctness of their position and desire to convert the heathens that disagree.
Perhaps it is time for the heathens to declare Jihad on the Bernds thread.
Radler,
This post had me rolling on the floor laughing and laughing out loud.
So let the anointed go forth and do battle against the Crusaders to defend the holy places of Palace such as its large and roomy sauna with the ambient music, the steam room, its disco dais, the two smoking rooms, the relax area with the multitude of pillows and reading lights, the pay per use sun bed and that most holiest of holies the Palace kino that is built so well for sucking and fucking to be had as one watches the porno movie on screen.
The Palace thread is the last stand against the blasphemous Crusaders.
One can only speculate if it is worth the danger of being put to horrible death by the omas that haunt that mythical place that is Bernds thread.
Chaos,
Londonbasketcase
Vito Corleone
01-20-09, 00:40
i remember, about a year or so ago, the first time i laid eyes on gina from czech at palace. sure i was interested, though physically she had that "i am so hot aren't i" type of vibe around her. when she chatted me up for a session at the high bar --which is her mo-- she immediately started to pitch this 50e extra for gfe-type session. until this point we spoke in english. but when she mentioned that extra-for-kissing scampoint, i immediately switched to deutsch and said: "das ist kwatch!" and explained to her that i was not a newbie and had dozens of girls here who provided me with gfe sessions without the 50e surcharge. on all my subsequent visits to palace, she always smiled at me, but never, ever came back to chat me up again. i think she knew she was trying to pull something over on me, and knew i could see right through her. by the way, in recent times, she tends to hang out with other czech (or slovakian???) so-called top acts lina and angelina back by the whirlpool deck behind the bar. this trio are in my book all a bit sharky in their sessioning approach and i feel myself that i would never get the type of "semi-authentic" gfe i seek from any of these girls. (funny, i do get it from czech linda, though, big-time!)
vito speculates above that part of the reason he (along with lbc) gets hit for these extra bits by some girls whilst guys like radler and others do not is because of the type/category of girl they go after, i.e. optifucks types. well i tend to fall more into radler's girl type myself and am not necessarily an optifuck man. (however, vito, we do share some girl interests, like lena of sk at oase, for example). but there are other similar points between you and lbc that radler and others of us do not share: a)both you guys do not speak much german; b) both of you share broadly similar ethnic features to the eyes of many ee girls at least; c) both of you are probably spoken about in the girl-to-girl grapevine as "big spenders" and/or easy session targets. one of you is known to take certain girls for multi-hour sessions, etc.
these factors may all combine to make certain girls try this extra-for-kissing scam. this is pure speculation on my part, but it may make sense. i bet if you spoke german more fluently, than these girls might not try it on you. or am i out of order here...?
anyway, for fans of czech gina at palace, fwiw, i did not see her working at palace last week, but she sure was there before x-mas in early december.
ortos
when i first sessioned with gina last year feb of 2008, she mentioned the extra for kissing when we first entered the room. i politely declined & she was fine with it. i did not think she was trying to scam or trick me. i was not really ecpecting a great passionate gfe anyway. just felt like banging a hot blonde with a great tight & toned bod. she was like test driving a porche. i have not sessioned with her since.
i generally pick a lot of women to session with during my trips. if i want an out of this world gfe, i session with my atf's & i do spend many hours with some of them. if i see a new hottie walking around, i usually jump on them & take them for a test drive. if they turn out to be a really great session, i extend to an hour or more.
i have never paid for extra anything other than cim & getting my salad tossed like there was no tomorrow (once). my lack of german skills have never been a problem. very hard to communicate, i just use body language. the 50e extra option has been offered @ times, but i tend to talk to a lot of women. a great passionate gfe with an below average looking chick just does not do it for me. i can get that for free (with plenty of extra work). i want to bang a hot model, playboy bunny, porn star, hustler & penthouse pet type. some of these women tend to not kiss @ all or charge extra for it. i like kissing too, but it is not a deal breaker.
some potential scams from a select shady few does not bother me @ all. if it did, i wouldn't visit the big clubs especially palace. like it or not, it can be a little more shark infested than the othe big 3. nothing i can't handle.
Basketcase
01-20-09, 01:10
I generally pick a lot of women to session with during my trips. If I want an out of this world GFE, I session with my ATf's & I do spend many hours with some of them. If I see a new hottie walking around, I usually jump on them & take them for a test drive. If they turn out to be a really great session, I extend to an hour or more.
Guten Tag Vito Corleone,
I take it that test drive you refer to is the tasting menu concept or the smorgasbord availability of women that can be tried out for an initial outlay of €50 for a session which can be upgraded to multiple hours should the chemistry allow. With such choice and abundance the main limitation is of course the access to ready funds to try just about all the girls on your short list.
Then there are the days where the short list is so short there is none on there and so if you do see something you do like then paying that little bit more does not feel so bad. Especially when one has expended hundreds more in actually getting to the clubs so to quibble over €50 for some people does not have the proportion justifying the response of "nein danke".
As one of my loony mates says "don't knock it until you have tried it".
Cheers,
Londonbasketcase
I wonder how this came to be a Bernds versus Palace discussion.
A Crusade?! Bitte? This is a bit uebertrieben if you ask me.
If Palace dudes decided not to visit Bernds, Bernds would do just fine.
In fact, it might be better off that way.
I've written enough reasons why one should not visit Bernds under the Bernds thread and one shouldn't visit it if one has any reservations at all about the services and/or the selection.
I am a fan but I am also aware of its limitations and how it might not appeal to the general public.
Connie alone is reason enough not to visit Bernds. Catch her in bad mood and you will meet the very personification of Gastunfreundschaft.
Vito Corleone
01-20-09, 01:36
Also Andra, the gorgeous Christina Aguilera doppelganger blonde Romanian teen, famous for trying on bogus extras, on our first date, hit me in the room with kissing is extra. When I protested that she should have told me before we came inside and I said OK for for 1 hour, she acceded and turned into a super GFE which I repeated twice and will always remember fondly LOL.
Seems like anything past 15 minutes is extra for Andra. I read her past reviews (yours was the only positive review) & knew what I was getting into (Winter 2007). She nice petite bod with a really pretty face. Declined her special menu & enjoyed the first 15 minutes when she said I needed to pay extra to continue. I just laughed & told her we are going to continue for another 15 minutes for the same 50E. She protested while I continued the good ole in & out.
Vito Corleone
01-20-09, 01:58
Yes you can get a BJ in the main room area but this tends to be the kino if in Palace. There can be kissing at Palace in the main room as well. It is rare to see someone get a full on BBBJ in Palace but you do see it.
In World it is rarer to receive public action apart from kissing in my experience. I do not know why - World is so big with so many places to hide that it si quite conducive to public action - but it does not seem to be the done thing there. The kino is almost always empty - it is a rare thing to see action on the couches in World.
Londonbasketcase
I see guys receiving bj's all the time @ World. Down stairs by the pool & on the couches near the bar. Plenty of excitement down there. Bj's, soccer & a big Russian guy body slamming a GI into the glass table.
Vito Corleone
01-20-09, 02:24
True enough, buit I tend to go Optifick about 10% of the time. It is an itch that needs to be scratched, fucking beautiful women just because they are beautiful. My tastes in beautiful women seems to be broader than yours and LBCs, for example the Indian-German girl at Oase, her name escapes me at present, I consider extremely beautiful and I doubt she would turn your or LBCs head.
That said, once in a while I do go after a woman that both you and LBC would find hot. Case in point, Czech Lena at Palace. I've sessioned with her a couple of times and it was a no-bullshit GFE session with no upselling or special charges. I think the difference was that she had heard through her friend Linda that I am good for 100 E by providing CIM. When LBC crashed and burned, I think she had learned from Angelina that LBC was good for 100 E for the GFE session. The price point had been set and Lena wanted the same comp as her friend Angelina.
If you agree to the 100 E GFE session, all girls in her girl-vine will come to expect it as well. If you say no, word will get around as well.
I do think German helps. And as I only pop in every month or two, my story that I am there on business is plausable.
In the end, it is your choice whether to accept non-standard pricing. I don't, because I choose to reward girls I like with either CIM or repeat with them. Recognize by accepting non-standard pricing, you create the expectation from the girls she talks to as well.
I have never agreed to 100E gfe session, so I am not sure where the attention comes from. The extra menu does get mentioned from time to time, but I always politely decline.
I speak close to zero German & I do not even pretend to try. LBC knows much more than I & atleast he seems to try. I have nevr had a woman speak to me in German then offer the extra menu when she realized I did not speak. Even during my marathon sessions, I hardly say a word. No small talk. Just pure sexual action. Some speak plenty of English, but the speaking skills are never needed.
If the Indian-German is the same chick you pointed out to me in December then definately not my type. I would yell "TESTUDO!!!!!!!!!" like a Roman Centurian.
Czech Lena @ Palace is not really That hot, just remember reading all the hype about her 2 years ago. I was still boycotting for personal reasons. When I read she came back, I decided I wanted to test drive. Pretty face, but the bod is a little thick for my taste. I heard she gained some extra pounds. Great bj, dfk with CIM & she kept on sucking until my pancreas came out! Repeated 3 more times & will repeat again during my next trip.
I also reward my ATF's or great sessions with CIM or extended time. I am in total agreement.
Vito Corleone
01-20-09, 02:48
Guten Tag Vito Corleone,
I take it that test drive you refer to is the tasting menu concept or the smorgasbord availability of women that can be tried out for an initial outlay of €50 for a session which can be upgraded to multiple hours should the chemistry allow. With such choice and abundance the main limitation is of course the access to ready funds to try just about all the girls on your short list.
Then there are the days where the short list is so short there is none on there and so if you do see something you do like then paying that little bit more does not feel so bad. Especially when one has expended hundreds more in actually getting to the clubs so to quibble over €50 for some people does not have the proportion justifying the response of "nein danke".
As one of my loony mates says "don't knock it until you have tried it".
Cheers,
Londonbasketcase
Wassup LBC,
Yes. Exactly. If you can test drive any car in the lot for 50E, I would choose a fancy car with terrible gas mileage. Some might be happy with a Prius with the great gas mileage, safety & other benefits. I love fast, expensive sport cars with terrible gas mileage. It's great to be able pick any car with many colors & different features. You can upgrade to leather seats, add a great sound system & etc. Some are included. Some of these elite cars are high maintenence, but you can return the car in 30 minutes. I will take the Rolls Royce & F1 McClaren over a Toyota Corrola or Honda Accord any day. Forget about gas mileage & reliability.
Vito Corleone
01-20-09, 02:52
Yes, saw her middle of last week. She invested some EUROs into silicone and had her tits done. She was wearing a bra so I can't really tell how much she did put, but it did look reasonable for her petite body.
HB
Thanks HB. So she did get the boob job. I remember back in August she was thinking about it. She didn't have much to start with, but I am sure they look good. I prefer natural no matter how small or flat, but as long as her bj skills have not gone down hill. Another woman who dfk's like there is no tomorrow.
Had an unscheduled stop in Frankfurt due to a missed flight, and needed to spend the night so I had my admin book me at the Radisson (it’s the tall strangely shaped hotel across from the Messe) which is just a 10 minute walk from Palace, so after dinner with some local friends and pleading tiredness, I walked the heavy dinner off in the blistering cold to Palace, arriving at about 10:00 p.m.
I have to admit, that I was wary about visiting this club after reading so much of the bashing, and have often surmised, as would anyone who religiously reads through these pages, that it cannot be mere coincidence, that Palace gets more than its share of unfavorable press. Trying to keep an open mind, I went with the full intent to be as objective as possible, even though my loyalties lie elsewhere. The best thing that could happen is that I would really like it and have another very convenient alternative in FRA.
I haven’t been there in a couple of years, so I’m not a familiar face to any of the SP or staff. A newbie, so to speak. In fact, I am anything but. My very first visit to Palace was about 5 years ago, also on a Friday night but right after it had re-opened as Palace (shortly after Atlantis closed). I actually never made it inside. As I drove up, there was an angry crowd of men outside, waiting to get in. It seems that there were about 30 women working that day, but already almost 100 men inside, and some of the men who had paid to get in, but left after surveying the sad scene and didn’t receive a refund, were agitating the crowd outside with this info. I made a quick U-Turn and drove off for Oase which was at that time, and still is, my preferred Hessen club.
I did return a short time later and have been back to Palace 2-3 times since then. I’ve never had a really bad time, since I’m sufficiently adept at this to know what works for me and avoid the bad SP. Then again, I’ve never had a particularly memorable time either. In the last couple of years, since giving my allegiance to other clubs, and finding my comfort zone elsewhere, I haven’t had a need to return. Frankly, I was turned off by many of the reported behaviors, which even when taken with many grains of salt, just seemed inexcusable. Then again, there are number of respected senior members who share some of my tastes, that keep coming back to this club, not because of its convenient location, but because of the hot SP selection and positive experiences to be had. And I did not feel comfortable participating in the seemingly endless debate, without my own more recent recollections to draw on. It was time to make a return visit.
To be fair, I was there on the Friday before Christmas, and didn’t expect a full lineup to be present. Even so, I was very disappointed by what I saw. Yes there were 4-5 stunners sauntering around. But there were also an inordinate amount of overweight women and 2 older worn out refugees from the RLD. From reliable reports, I expected to be knocked silly by the amazing lineup of runway models, which is on par with Oase and World. Also, I’d say more than 50% were wearing something even though Fri. night isn’t dessous night. Isn’t this an all-nude FKK club? By my count, there were about 35 SP that night and an equal number of customers.
I changed, showered and scoped out the renovated facility. Very nicely done with quality design and materials. Great relax area, although it would be even better if the pool and relax area were connected. Still impressive. I went to the champagne bar for a coffee and saw a beautiful tall brunette (Christina) and a beautiful statuesque blonde (???) together with a guy taking a chilled bottle of champagne. I put both on my list as they were easily the best of the lot. These 2 seemed to be together most of the night, although Christina was from the Spanish group and the blonde looked to be from the E. European crowd. Took my time to check out the rest of the staff. Some nice looking women walking around. I stopped a couple to chat up but none really lit me up. I was also mugged by a chubby Brazilian woman, who was after me the whole night, but her whole approach seemed too aggressive.
Eventually, I literally bumped into the lovely Julia, a pretty blonde who has been written about extensively here. She said “room?”. I said let’s sit first. I asked her if she wanted a drink, got one for myself and we sat on the couch beneath the large bar. She sat on the other side of the couch and was impatient with the conversation asking every 2 minutes, says “Room?”. I was testing to see if she would warm up, with me lightly caressing her arm and leg. This wasn’t going too well as she stayed on her side. After a few minutes, I decided to give her one last chance to redeem herself and leaned over to kiss her, but she turned away and said, that she wouldn’t kiss in the public area, only in the room. I thanked her for her time and she got up and quickly moved away.
Did my rounds again and finally found Naomi, who claimed to be from the US. She’s the love child of an American GI and a local German girl who grew up in Germany and lived some years as a child in the U.S. She’s been at Palace for a year although she lives in NRW, but she said that she wouldn’t work closer to home. Nice to talk to and eventually we went to a room for a decent though unspectacular session in which the physical activities were less memorable than the discussion. Nice BBBJ, and a lovely womanly figure which I extensively explored. I extended to the full hour and eventually, after she came from DATY she immediately climbed on top of me without asking, and rode me, while she very obviously enjoyed the friction. Nice girl, but she admitted to me that she needs to keep herself very detached from her job, and even though I thought that we had made a good connection, she was cool to me later when we met in the smoking room.
Used the sauna and the relax room, and came back out to look for my next partner. Finally met Tina, who has also been reported on here and had this nice buzz and energy about her, hanging out with her posse at the high tables outside the front smoking room. I liked her right away, and we spoke for awhile on the high stools, with her leaning over and pressing her man-made credentials into my chest and her tongue probing my ear and throat. She had passed her audition and she took me to a beautiful large room. Good session, and she was very skilled and fun so I extended to the full hour, telling her that I may or may not CIM, which was Ok with her. Great BBBJ, lots of positions, lots of giggling and teasing, and we never got to the CIM, with me finishing on top with those beautiful boobs crushed beneath me.
Took a break, and overheard 2 guys speaking English. One was a Dutch regular, who was having one last night out, before travelling off with his family to Dubai for the holidays. We discussed the P4P scene there for his acquaintance, who it turns out was an American professional athlete working and living in Europe, who had come to Palace by accident. He had a layover in FRA on his way back home for the holidays, and asked the taxi driver to take him to a place where he could see some naked women. He thought that he would be taken to a strip club, and imagine his surprise when the door opened at Palace, to a room full of already naked women. He stayed, figuring that it was just as good as a strip club for seeing naked women, but was on a tight budget and had no intention of participating. The Dutch guy went off to make plans with Christina and the blonde, and my new American friend told me, that he had met the Dutch guy when he was invited by him to join him in a room. Apparently, the Dutch guy gets off by voyeuring, so he invited this young stud to some free action with 2 girls while he watched. This time around, the Dutch guy had assembled Christina, the blonde and another woman, and we watched with smiles as the women went around the room, looking for 2 male participants to join them, but found no takers for awhile until they found 2 Italian guys willing to join in. I don’t know why they passed us by, unless we were disqualified due to my friend having already enjoyed one of his freebies.
We sat and spoke for a long time. He was amazed to find out that there were many of these FKK clubs all around Germany. Most of the time we fended off advances. My young athletic friend seemed to be a real magnet, and we had a good time, telling the ladies that he was my son, the offspring of my union with an American GI. In particular there were 2 Spanish women, one of whom was all over him. He politely explained that he had no intention of paying her, but would be very happy to go home with her, and have some fun there. We found her, on a number of occasions sitting across the room and making eyes at him. He was pretty convinced that she would take him up on his offer. When I came out of my final session later nearing closing time, he was gone and so was his admirer so maybe he got some free Spanish action under his Christmas tree.
After 2 a.m., it really emptied out of customers as well as women. At about 2:30, I excused myself telling him that I needed to find my next target. I had my eyes set on Christina but hadn’t seen her since she went off with the Dutch guy. I made the rounds and took notice of 2 short blondes with killer bodies. Saw Christina and her blonde friend and they seemed upset about something. It turns out that they believed that the Dutch guy hadn’t kept his payment commitments for the 6-some. After she calmed down, I went over to her and told her that I was interested in going to a room with her. She said “OK, but you’ll also have to take my friend”. I responded that I was only interested in going with her. She made a face and said, “OK but that will cost you 100.”. I said OK for an hour. But she said “ No, for half an hour”. I told her that the house price is 50 for a half hour, and she said “Not for me.” I replied, “well not for me either” and passed resuming my quest.
The pickings were slim. I considered going with Naomi again, but eventually, found the two short blondes in the smoking room. I sat down next to the more friendlier of the 2, and we spoke, but when I asked to go to a room, she said that she was done for the night. So I approached the 2nd one. At this point I wasn’t interested in a GFE session, just to get my last rocks off, so I just suggested that we go to a room. She was E. European, but I'm drawing a blank on her name. She was very pretty and knew it. Blonde, blue eyes, 34B, very porportionate on her short body. After some fondling, I leaned over to kiss her on the lips, but she turned away and told me that it’s not included in the standard price. I acted surprised so she explained that for the basic price, she’s only required by the Palace management to do a BJ and have intercourse, nothing else, and so anything else that I wanted to do, would be charged for as an extra. For me DFK is not a bargaining point but is a basic FKK service and it and DATY are minimum requirements for a good session. Since she never promised either before we went to the room and was upfront with her message, this wasn't shark behavior, just an attempt to scam. So, I demurred, and opted to make sure that she provided the 2 services that she’s required to by the Palace management. I didn’t care if she enjoyed it or not, took my time and just pounded away until I was finished at the 28 minute mark.
When we left the room the club had really emptied out. The cleaning crew had already started although there were still a few men stragglers sitting by their lonesome on the couches. I showered and left the club at 3:45 a.m. planning on walking back to the Radisson, but it was pouring rain, so I took one of the waiting taxis for the 3 minute drive.
Summary:
1) It’s hard if not impossible to make a clear judgment based on one solitary visit after years of voluntary abandonment. Also, I’m sure that as has been reported here, there’s usually a great lineup of gorgeous models, with some excellent providers in their midst. Arriving at a conclusion about their lineup by a visit on a cold wintry weekend night just before Christmas with no Messe in town would be unfair. The place is kept very clean and I did see some very pretty ladies, have 2 decent, though not extraordinary sessions, and really enjoyed the sauna/ relax area.
2) I also personally encountered some of the types of behaviors, that have given this club its bad rep. I would not draw a comprehensive conclusion or bad mouth the club because of these, since it is conceivably possible that these were isolated incidents caused by my own unfamiliarity with the club, and my sex tourist status in the eyes of the staff. Nor was I "sharked" on this trip, since I avoided what I imagined would have been bad sessions with Julia and Christina. But I can say, that I have not encountered anything like the attempted scams by Christina and the E. European blonde in any of the other clubs that I visit.
3) There is much to be said for the benefit of being recognized as a return regular customer, and for operating in your own comfort zone in maximizing the pleasure of these club visits. I mused about this in a recent post, as this was prominent in my thoughts while visiting Palace and in subsequent visits to Bernd’s and Oase. It's pretty certain that a Palace regular would have had a more enjoyable time knowing the lay of the land and how to negotiate the minefield. I enjoy the thrill of the hunt and recognize that there’s a fair chance of having a less than fully satisfying experience by grazing in unknown fields. For an occasional visitor, I can understand the desire to go for a sure thing and one with less potential for disappointment. Luckily, I get to Germany often enough that I can mix in the new and dangerous with the old and comfortably familiar, so I’ll continue to occasionally nibble in unfamiliar fields.
4) Would I return? Yes, given the same conditions that brought me to come on this night; i.e. last minute change of plans, no car, hotel in West End of Frankfurt, next morning departure. Otherwise, I’ll probably continue to give my Hessen business to Oase, and to explore the vast greener pastures of NRW for its more varied harvest of opportunities. For others with limited time and opportunity, having to make one choice amongst all of the big FKK clubs, unless convenience of access is the primary consideration, I'd recommend to pass on Palace because of the higher chance of being scammed.
Ekliges Lauern
01-20-09, 12:38
Had an unscheduled stop in Frankfurt due to a missed flight, and needed to spend the night so I had my admin book me at the Radisson (it’s the tall strangely shaped hotel across from the Messe) which is just a 10 minute walk from Palace, so after dinner with some local friends and pleading tiredness, I walked the heavy dinner off in the blistering cold to Palace, arriving at about 10:00 p.m.
Thanks for the actual report. The forum need more of this.
I do have one question. How do you select the women you session with? Is it mostly visuals followed by a couch interview (testing the waters)?
Ekliges Lauern
01-20-09, 12:47
Lena did not have much a say in the matter as Angelina was doing the negotiating for Lena for her services. I declined on the basis that I was just getting a suck and fuck which seemed to be getting worse by the minute as Angelina upped the stakes by saying that I was welcome to a threesome with both Angelina and Lena. I declined that offer as well. Lena ended the dialogue with "maybe we could catch up later that evening". That catch up did not happen.
Ahh, that was a detail I missed, that Angelina was pimping Lena. You probably told me that night, but I was probably distracted. Sounds like Angelina has some issues with you. Or she didn't want you thinking the grass was greener with Lena and Lena was playing along. Solution in that case would have been to approach Lena while Angelina was in the room. But as I remember, the mood was spoiled anyway and Angelina may have bad mouthed you to Lena so probably best it didn't happen. I would have interpreted the "maybe we could catch up later" as "find me when Angelina isn't around". Too much drama anyway.
I am beginning to do the same. My best girls get the CIM bonus or lots of repeat business from me. Maybe I am maturing into the hobby?
That is the way to incent good behaviour. The girls are motivated by money and want to maximize their earning. Reward good service within the pricing structure. Doing so outside the pricing structure will make them come to expect non standard pricing.
Gentleman Travel
01-20-09, 17:49
or not.
don't get me wrong. if you do go, please post a report with the good and the bad including the names and descriptions of the girls you are with.
this is not a "debate", it has become a religious argument. it is a debate in the same sense that the crusades was a religious disagreement. similar to the crusades, it is of interest only to the side invading the holy lands. in this case the crusaders are the palace-bashers and the holy land is the palace thread. also, like the crusades it just keeps going on endlessly.
finally, like the crusaders, the palace-bashers have a religious conviction of the correctness of their position and desire to convert the heathans that disagree.
perhaps it is time for the heathens to declare jihad on the bernds thread.
while you are debating with the crusaders at the palace gate,
mind if i just slip in and [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) the women-folk?
while you are debating with the crusaders at the palace gate,
mind if i just slip in and [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) the women-folk?
technically, you cannot [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) any girl at the palace, (unless you fancy the cleaning ladies...) since they are all consenting to sex....
M P Lurker
01-20-09, 21:30
Can anyone tell me if Miss Bee (Thai lady with the huge back tatoo) is back from holidays? Or can I ring the establishment and ask?
Perhaps Radler will know :) I seem to recall he likes Bee too.
I have just got back to work in Frankfurt and look forward to renewing sessions with Bee, who was outstanding before. I will try some other girls too of course ;)
But I might be more tempted by Oase unless Bee is there to tip the scales in favour of the Palace.
Harry Hymes
01-20-09, 22:15
I've been to The Palace twice in the space of one month, in December the week before Christmas and then in January, both times in afternoon layovers.
Both visits followed the same pattern, basically a CIM blowjob by one of the first girls that approached me, a full one hour PSE session (including anal) with a girl I selected based on her looks and demeanour, and a third, more relaxed GFE one hour session.
I found that I enjoy and can muster this session setup.
The girls in December were Eve (Czech Republic), Monika (I think that's her name; tall, blonde, small tits; Poland) and Nicoleta (Italy). In January, they were Angelique (Russia), Julia (Ukraine) and Tatiana (Ukraine). As per other visitors observations in other posts, Nicoleta and Tatiana are probably Romanian (and the others, I'm just taking them by their word), and contrary to what I've mused in a previous post, I now believe that they are different girls.
~ Primo ~
Eve was a lady, with a nice presence and a lovely body; she found me in the main room, proposed a session, I asked for a blowjob in the Kino. It was a wonderful, wholly professional endeavour. I would have had another session with Eve on the January visit if she was there.
Angelique is not beautiful. She does have the kind of woman body I normally like (petite, slender, small tits, nice firm ass). But she was really nice, kept telling how the Russians were the best. We went into the room with nothing previously agreed, I said to her there that I was just looking for a blowjob. "No problem". Wonderful BBBJ, one of the best of my life, and she swallowed.
~ Secundo ~
After exploring the brunch, I found Eve speaking with a tall, blonde, nice young woman that got my attention. I called her and proposed a one hour session in a room. She was Polish. The second Polish girl I ever had sex with (the other being the unforgettable Nicoleta, in Vienna), and also absolutely fantastic. Her attitude and dedication were brilliant throughout. I will repeat with this girl, definitely.
In January, my second session was with Julia, whom I chose solely based in her stunning looks, beautiful face, wonderfully engineered tits. In fellow monger Vito Corleone words about another girl, "drop dead gorgeous, tall, tight & toned playboy bunny bod & watching her pretty face go up & down my cock is priceless". Exactly. She was not at all a GFE, and she was a bit more controlling of the process than I like (maybe I'll manage to correct that next time I'm with her), but nothing in the World compares with having almost constant eye contact with a smiling Goddess while she expertly takes care of your cock with a bbbj to be remembered. We also did anal, which was not bad either.
~ Tertio ~
With both Nicoleta and Tatiana, I was looking for a bit of relaxed adult entertainment, with lots of kisses and caressing and massaging and some straight sex. Both are dear, lovely and experienced girls which provided it in spades. I love these two.
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Two final notes: (a) In January, I made for the first time use of the spa facilities of The Palace, including an one hour trigger point massage with Jutta, which was first class (IMHO); (b) all those posts about girls being sharks, about the upselling and the bad experiences: I had a few less than memorable experiences here (which I have reported), but on balance this place still remains Paradise on Earth (I've been told that that is actually in Thailand, but I've never been there, so I have to base my valuations on what I know).
Ekliges Lauern
01-21-09, 01:54
Can anyone tell me if Miss Bee (Thai lady with the huge back tatoo) is back from holidays? Or can I ring the establishment and ask?
Perhaps Radler will know :) I seem to recall he likes Bee too.
I have just got back to work in Frankfurt and look forward to renewing sessions with Bee, who was outstanding before. I will try some other girls too of course ;)
But I might be more tempted by Oase unless Bee is there to tip the scales in favour of the Palace.
Sadly I haven't been to Palace in 2009. Believe Ortos was there recently, might check with him.
BTW, recommend Pom if she is around.
Ekliges Lauern
01-21-09, 01:59
technically, you cannot [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) any girl at the palace, (unless you fancy the cleaning ladies...) since they are all consenting to sex....
as an old girlfriend used to say, you can't [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) the willing. sadly she was not referring to our intimate relations.
speaking of the palace cleaning ladies, there is one with curly blond hair and a cute nose that i always assumed was an fkk girl during that time of the month. however, i've never seen her without her cleaning uniform. i'd really like to fuck her doggie style in the kino.
Sadly I haven't been to Palace in 2009. Believe Ortos was there recently, might check with him.
BTW, recommend Pom if she is around.
I visited Palace latish on a Sunday night: pretty bad/pathetic lineup by normal Palace standards if the truth be told. Sad because Sundays at Palace used to be pretty reliable. However, no sign of Bee or any other Oriental that night.
I re-visited on a whim the following Weds night in the heart of a pretty major Messe event. As I briefly mentioned in a post below, the place was rocking and offered probably the best (read: most extensive and highly populated by "must-do" 9s from all over the FKK universe) line-up I've encountered in more than two years at this club. I was dazzled. Again, no sign of Bee or any other Thai girl.
On another tangent: I had to chuckle to myself when I walked into Oase recently and saw working there the horrendous, rip-off shark, Tan from Shanghai, an ex-Palace girl that I personally rate as one of the worst SPs I've ever come across. She must have been driven out of Palace and now tries to scam guests at BHH! See these girls can move clubs and work anywhere. So also can the good ones move around: Witness the new arrival to World's line-up...
Ortos
Basketcase
01-21-09, 08:36
Can anyone tell me if Miss Bee (Thai lady with the huge back tatoo) is back from holidays? Or can I ring the establishment and ask?
Perhaps Radler will know :) I seem to recall he likes Bee too. I have just got back to work in Frankfurt and look forward to renewing sessions with Bee, who was outstanding before. I will try some other girls too of course ;) But I might be more tempted by Oase unless Bee is there to tip the scales in favour of the Palace.
Hi Mick Licker,
There was a Bee (Thai) working at Oase just after Christmas. I am not sure if this is the same Bee as you are looking for me. I have met more than one Thai lady called Bee. I also spotted Tan (China) at Oase as well recently. There seems to be a few Asians now at Oase. Very good since it pleases the punters. I know my friends enjoy and have an eye for the Asians.
Cheers,
Londonbasketcase
Hi Mick Licker,
There was a Bee (Thai) working at Oase just after Christmas. I am not sure if this is the same Bee as you are looking for me. I have met more than one Thai lady called Bee. I also spotted Tan (China) at Oase as well recently. There seems to be a few Asians now at Oase. Very good since it pleases the punters. I know my friends enjoy and have an eye for the Asians.
Cheers,
Londonbasketcase
There was indeed a Bee from Thailand at Oase in December, however, this was not the same Bee who used to work Palace, there was certainly no trace of a tattoo. Plus this other B gave off the distinct signs of being a bit of a shark or at least trying to rush men into the room after a rather prefuntory introduction. If I recall correctly, this was not the type of approach characteristic of the original Bee from Palace being enquired about here.
LBC, you make a fair comment about the number of Asian women spotted at Oase during December. I noted a similar flux in the numbers of South American girls at Oase in January, particularly from Brazil and Columbia. Lucky for me, on my last day a well-rested and recharged Pauola from Columbia found me lounging in the Kino and after a long period of foreplay in front of the screen, escorted me to a room for a intense bbbjcim session. Her BBBJ is way up there on my scale, close to Linda of Czechs... It was a great way to say goodbye to Oase for a while...
Ortos
M P Lurker
01-21-09, 18:55
Hi Mick Licker,
There was a Bee (Thai) working at Oase just after Christmas. I am not sure if this is the same Bee as you are looking for me. I have met more than one Thai lady called Bee. I also spotted Tan (China) at Oase as well recently. There seems to be a few Asians now at Oase. Very good since it pleases the punters. I know my friends enjoy and have an eye for the Asians.
Cheers,
Londonbasketcase
Thats a coincidence as Bee is not a particularly common Thai nick name although not exactly rare. I wouldn't put it past a Thai girl to copy the name to try to get customers from the reputation of the name.
I should have added that Bee with the big tattoo normally works day shift till 7PM at Palace. She is super hot stuff. It so happens I can speak Thai (and not Deutsch) so I was aware that Bee was going to Thailand for the new year.
Felipe2006
01-21-09, 20:06
hi Mick Licker,
the last time I saw Bee (November) she told me she would visit her homeland in
January & February. She normally comes back late February/early March.
And you´re right, she´s an absolute gem.
Cheers,
Felipe
Thats a coincidence as Bee is not a particularly common Thai nick name although not exactly rare. I wouldn't put it past a Thai girl to copy the name to try to get customers from the reputation of the name.
I should have added that Bee with the big tattoo normally works day shift till 7PM at Palace. She is super hot stuff. It so happens I can speak Thai (and not Deutsch) so I was aware that Bee was going to Thailand for the new year.
Thats a coincidence as Bee is not a particularly common Thai nick name although not exactly rare. I wouldn't put it past a Thai girl to copy the name to try to get customers from the reputation of the name.
I should have added that Bee with the big tattoo normally works day shift till 7PM at Palace. She is super hot stuff. It so happens I can speak Thai (and not Deutsch) so I was aware that Bee was going to Thailand for the new year.
Hey Mick,
I too met a Thai Bee this past Thursday at Oase working the day shift. Got a very bad vibe from her and very quickly ended the interview, nor did I search her person for the big tattoo so I can't say if she is the same Palace Bee.
Njoy.
I do have one question. How do you select the women you session with? Is it mostly visuals followed by a couch interview (testing the waters)?
I'm not big on optificks, although I do dabble every now and then. Mostly, I look for the person beneath the skin, and check the eyes as much as the other physical attributes. I'm big on OOBA as it's usually a good indication of what will happen once in the zimmer. There's no science to this. It's based more on intuition, on experience and on a willingness to take risks, to learn for the future from both the good and the bad. Never discount the power of the couch.
Member #1071
01-22-09, 08:03
Went to Palace around 8pm. 60M, 40F ratio which change to 50/50 as time passed.
Approached by slim COCO, turkish tanned body. Good service, DFK, DATY, BBBJ. Asked me if I wanted CIM for an extra 50 euros, I declined.
Looks: 6
Body: 7
Performance:8
Second session with Geena from Czech. Tried to upsell time,CIM and Lesbi show. I declined. No kissing, no Daty, fair BBBJ.
Looks: 9
Body 9 (Fake boobs)
Performance: 5
Last Session was with Sophia from Venzuella. Excellent service, BBBJ. DATY, DFK, took her time no hurry. She will try to upsell CIM, watch out as she will claim CIM even if you pull out and finish outside her mouth.
Looks:8
Body:7 (huge boobs, probably natural)
Performance: 9
Atmosphere in Palace was relaxing as usual, going back tomorrow,
M P Lurker
01-22-09, 09:07
Hey Mick,
I too met a Thai Bee this past Thursday at Oase working the day shift. Got a very bad vibe from her and very quickly ended the interview, nor did I search her person for the big tattoo so I can't say if she is the same Palace Bee.
Njoy.
No need to search for Bee's tatoo, buddy. Its unmissably huge, covering I think the entire back. But it is a work of art and didn't turn me off. Its clear that Oase Bee is not same girl.
I am a bit of an Optifik man, as you probably remember, but Palace Bee is both an optifik and a GFE for me. Possibly PSE but I didn't ask for back door as her pussy was fine and I am not a big anal enthusiast.
I will probably "Oase" this Friday or Saturday.
M P Lurker
01-22-09, 09:13
hi Mick Licker,
the last time I saw Bee (November) she told me she would visit her homeland in
January & February. She normally comes back late February/early March.
And you´re right, she´s an absolute gem.
Cheers,
Felipe
Your info is much appreciated.
Well I shall just have to wait patiently till then. I guess I will find some other super hotties in the meantime.
Your info is much appreciated.
Well I shall just have to wait patiently till then. I guess I will find some other super hotties in the meantime.
I lurk often on the BKK forum, and know that you are the master of massage parlours in bangkok. All of us who only pass by BKK occasionally owe you a lot for the info you provide. However, I can't refrain to ask myself why, when you are in Germany you still look for a Thai girl, when you seem to know all the best in BKK?
I'm not big on optificks, although I do dabble every now and then. Mostly, I look for the person beneath the skin, and check the eyes as much as the other physical attributes. I'm big on OOBA as it's usually a good indication of what will happen once in the zimmer. There's no science to this. It's based more on intuition, on experience and on a willingness to take risks, to learn for the future from both the good and the bad. Never discount the power of the couch.
I couldn't agree more.
As the Germans say, check for her aura, not only her physical characteristics.
There are very normal women out there who have sparkling personalities and a twinkle in their eyes.
And then there are Optikficks who are physically and visually pleasing but are duds personality-wise. Go find Katy at Cocoon and you'll understand what I'm talking about if you've not had this experience before. Or go find the "blonde icecube" at Samya.
To each his own.
M P Lurker
01-23-09, 09:10
I lurk often on the BKK forum, and know that you are the master of massage parlours in bangkok. All of us who only pass by BKK occasionally owe you a lot for the info you provide. However, I can't refrain to ask myself why, when you are in Germany you still look for a Thai girl, when you seem to know all the best in BKK?
I am happy to do many nationalities. It was a strange coincidence that the best Palace performer I met last trip was Bee, possibly assisted by my better communication skills with her. She was as good as any Thai girl I have met in Thailand.
The kooky hyper German girl Michelle was very good to be worth raving about too. A few other good sessions: Indira, Simona, and I did connect up with an old favourite Daniella (Romania)
There were two other Thais there however that didn't do it for me. Noi was too aggressive and the other a bit overweight. Didn't find any great black girls last time. Alice had the looks but she is too finicky to suit me.
Also had a great time at Oase with Czech and German girls.
A few other good sessions: Indira, Simona, and I did connect up with an old favourite Daniella (Romania)
Hey,
Interesting. I saw Daniella a few weeks ago at Paradise in Stuttgart. She said that she was headed up to Berlin to work in Artemis. I guess that plan did not work out.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Vito Corleone
01-24-09, 01:25
Hey,
Interesting. I saw Daniella a few weeks ago at Paradise in Stuttgart. She said that she was headed up to Berlin to work in Artemis. I guess that plan did not work out.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Daniella must move around a lot because I saw her @ Palace in early Dec. What name does Maria (ex Oase) go by @ Palace. Everytime I visit the club, I look for her with no luck. Does she look the same? It has been 3 years since I last sessioned with her.
M P Lurker
01-24-09, 09:58
Hey,
Interesting. I saw Daniella a few weeks ago at Paradise in Stuttgart. She said that she was headed up to Berlin to work in Artemis. I guess that plan did not work out.
Cheers,
Dedalus
I should have indicated that my last sessions at Palace with Daniella was back Sep 2008. She said was also working Artemis Berlin at that time.
M P Lurker
01-24-09, 21:14
I should have indicated that my last sessions at Palace with Daniella was back Sep 2008. She said was also working Artemis Berlin at that time.
If you want to see the famous Daniella of Romania, get your arse moving. She is at the Palace tonight with her friend Michelle also of Romania.
A lot of other Optifiks too.
I popped out for a time to post this and get more cash.
M P Lurker
01-24-09, 22:10
Went to Palace today in order to compare with Oase.
Since its a fair amount of money, I like to get very pretty girls with hot bodies who perform just great too. I don't normally choose ordinary looking girls, even if they have legendary performance.
Although the Palace has a reputation for some sharks, especially when it gets too busy, there are really good girls too. Its merely a question of getting to know which girls are to be avoided and which are hot, as when i find great girls, I like to repeat.
Arrived during the daytime, and not many stunners in yet. One tall slim girl with a great arse was very popular but I was scared off by her exaggerated silicone coconuts. But I guess she must be good based on her stream of customers that would nearly duplicate the days of Czech Linda with her non-stop customers.
In the end I took Simona (Czech) despite her not so perfect assisted tits. The reason was simply that I was repeating with a known performer. Good kisser, good soft slow BBBJ, and nice deep pussy with pulsating suction.
She just feels so good to fuck.
Later was trying to decide between the Optifiks that were showing up 5 or 6PM onwards. Julia of Ukraine looked great (again except for exaggerated silicones), Laura of Romania was hot except tits a bit small. Then arrived Kim (or Kimi) (Brazil). Despite my Pause not quite being long enough (I'm too old) I was having a great deal of trouble to send Kimi away. Has a narrow face, cute nose, luscious lips, magnificent natural Cs, and superb arse. No discernable faults. "Do you like to kiss?", I asked stupidly. "I am from Brazil. Of course I like to kiss" was her reply. Brazilian girls are actually the best kissers in the world IMHO. She showed me and the deal was sealed.
BTW, Brazilian Kimi has darkish skin and a latin accent, and is clearly not German Kim previously reported on. She said she has only been at Palace for 2 months.
So I am doing my duty to the forum by providing you with "Kim" of Brazil who is a stunning Optifik and a great GFE performer in the room.
Kimi kisses like Brazil girls by opening wide and giving freely her whole tongue. Her pussy was smooth and delicious as well. Her BBBJ was very slurpy superior.
Had to have some doggy to check out her bottom, a bit of mish for a while and then a slight problem. She didn't bring any lube and I don't come at all quick. Next time I will supply it.
So we went back to BBBJ and DATY in 69 position.
She was quite enjoying herself and I could swear from her arsehole convulsions and thrusting into my face that she came more than once. The BBBJ went on and on and she didn't seem to tire. Eventually I couldn't hold out and exploded in her mouth. Nearly 1 hour plus CIM bonus well earned. Can't wait for next time with Kimi.
Just paid Kimi and out steps dazzling Daniella (Romania) with her friend Michelle. Well I'll have to Pause for quite a while first before Daniella, and in the meantime check out all the other Optifiks arriving.
I like Palace due to the plush couches for resting on, and due to not too much pressure from the girls. Ratio of guys to girls is still good as its early in the night.
Overall Palace has a lot more really pretty girls, both face and body to my spec, than Oase last night, and great performers exist amoung these Palace Optifiks. So I am going to prefer the Palace. O.K. There are some old, fat, and uglies too, possibly with great personalities and performance, but I am not into that.
Get to the Palace early, to beat the late rush!
Watch out for Sharks. Usually can be sussed out by talking with them, like "What do they like to do in the room?", but not always.
I went to Palace on Saturday 24/1/09 and was very disappointed with the general atmosphere. It was very aggressive and hostile. The girls were walking around and asking if you want sex (that direct) without any preliminary conversation.
I found if I said NO they walked away in a strop and told the others that I am a time waster. I'm not a time waster, I just like to know the girl a little (minimum of 5-10 mins) before I depart with 50 Euros (50 quid). I'm attracted to GFE and if I want sex alone I could go to a normal brothel. The whole point of FKK is for there to be a club-like social atmosphere.
Generally, I find Polish, Czech, Slovak, Hungarian girls are more GFE accommodating and therefore nice/pleasant to be with.
NO offence anyone, but I'm staying away from Russians, Romainians, Latino's (have a guess! )
I think the management know about the shark-syndrome but don't care because they rely on transient trade due to city location. This club is coming off my list of FKK clubs to revisit.
I couldn't agree more.
As the Germans say, check for her aura, not only her physical characteristics.
There are very normal women out there who have sparkling personalities and a twinkle in their eyes.
And then there are Optikficks who are physically and visually pleasing but are duds personality-wise. Go find Katy at Cocoon and you'll understand what I'm talking about if you've not had this experience before. Or go find the "blonde icecube" at Samya.
To each his own.
Das ist die Wahrheit, aber...
Sometimes, once in a blue moon or two, it really does do you some good to unload/explode with sheer and absolute uninhibited, testosterone-charged velocity into one of those Ice Maidens...
Insbesondere von hinten Stellung...
Nicht wahr oder ???
Das ist die Wahrheit, aber...
Sometimes, once in a blue moon or two, it really does do you some good to unload/explode with sheer and absolute uninhibited, testosterone-charged velocity into one of those Ice Maidens...
Insbesondere von hinten Stellung...
Nicht wahr oder ???
I tend to avoid women like this but I can also understand their appeal.
Some of them are so totally un-interactive, you have to be so totally taken by her physical characteristics to make up for her aloofness.
Give me a genuinely warm, smiling, communicative chick any time.
Hessen Bub
01-25-09, 14:37
Daniella must move around a lot because I saw her @ Palace in early Dec. What name does Maria (ex Oase) go by @ Palace. Everytime I visit the club, I look for her with no luck. Does she look the same? It has been 3 years since I last sessioned with her.
Maria from RO? Oase? Skinny? She's not at Palace. You're talking about a different Maria, right?
I saw Daniela and her sister Roxanna a few weeks ago in Stuttgart, they are moving between S, B and F.
HB
M P Lurker
01-25-09, 15:01
Give me a genuinely warm, smiling, communicative chick any time.
As long as the girl interacts enthusiastically, she doesn't have to be a great verbal "communicator" as her mouth will be busy a fair percentage of the time ;) I have had great to fabulous sessions with girls who could not speak much English and I could not speak their language much either.
Maria from RO? Oase? Skinny? She's not at Palace. You're talking about a different Maria, right?
HB
Perhaps he's referring to the Bulgarian Maria ex Oase, who is now a very occassional player in the FKK scene from her steady employment at Oase a few years ago. Dedalus knows her current name...
Ortos
Hessen Bub
01-26-09, 10:02
She is using her given name and IMHO it wouldn't do for that to be released on the board.
That was her choice. And she is not the only one, and their names are being spread on the board. If you hadn't mentioned that it's her given name, nobody would have known.
HB
My Palace hours were limited to six hours before I had my flight. I entered the club at 1 PM. Paid the fee of 75Euro and got explained the usual again. The receptionisp also briefly explained where the sauna, kino, massage room are. No showing around. At least this club is on one level and has got signs for the amenities.
At least this place had normal size lockers. I quickly changed and went to showers to warm up for the action. Palace might be a luxury place and you can feel this from the main gate but when it has got warmish water and lousy 10second showers it goes from the Premiership to the LeagueOne. If it was a summer day I wouldn’t notice much but when I arrived there temperature was near 0 C. So taking shower was a real pain.
The breakfast buffet looked wonderful with its collection and offers. It was nicely presented and The barmaid was a nice girl who made sure until 4 replenished as it needed.
Whe I entered the main area line up was minimal. 12 girls were present and The most of them ranked 6-7s. Nothing special or eye catching. Anyway I thought maybe it was early (1. 30pm) that line up could get better. So I again went to sauna to get warm first. While cruising towards sauna I noticed that swimming pool was closed to use for some reason. It has stayed that way all day. By the sauna I have seen a curly fake blond fully naked girl greeted me with naughty smile. She got my reply. I didn’t want to give her too much amution to shoot. So entered the sauna. Stayed there until get warm and felt that I was ready for the action.
I tried to get some shower to refresh. This time not even a warm water but cold. It could be the pipes, I thought, I kept waiting with some hope. No way. It just run cold water. Meanwhile that curly blond appeared by the shower and said something in German. I was shaking my head with discontent and I told her in English, I just wanted get hot shower. She said it would take some time to get it warm. I gave up having hot shower went down under icy cold water, wash down my sweat at least. She asked me whether I would have sex with hers showing her small titied but firm body (She must have been dancer in the line). This was a direct marketing; no shame, no rules, no regrets. After a drink anything was possible I told her. Infact she was the best looking girl at that time.
Nicoletta from Italy. She didn’t sound much Italian to my ears but looked very sexy on the body, unfortunally her curly fake blond hair wasn’t matching her face. But she was enjoyable for a small chat. Ten minutes later we were in the room. Quickly she tried to sell me some extras which were displaid on the bed with a sheet of paper. I said no to all. She wasn’t pleased. A short DFK followed BBBJ with some light strokes. I went down for a DATY Sex was not much energetic. She did her duty with with no complains. We were out in 20minutes. Nothing special or memorable.
I’ve tried another shower with pain. Sampled the some of the breakfast and find cosy seatf or to observe the what was going on in the club. Nothing much was going on actually. Line up was almost same and not very promising. We, clientele, were also on the weak side. Three OAPs from Italy, three Germans, two Americans, a Japanese and myself. When I left at 6. 30 pm number were 20 girls maybe bit more and 15 boys max. It seems credit crunch has hit Palace bad. Some of the girls confirmed this (by their upselling of extras and by telling) unless there is a Messe clientele are not there in enough numbers.
My second endavour was a bubbly girl from Russia called Lena. This devoushka infact was the best performer of the day. While I was trying to rest with closed eyes she sat on me saying this place was a FKK not a hotel. I was there for sex not for dozing off. She has got big green eyes with a bit heavy body but nice big tits and wholesome ass. She ruled me to the nearest room. She put cover on the bed and kneled down to my cock. I could see her expertise on that clearly. She sucked me deep and enjoyable strokes. My balls wasn’t the expection. In between DFK never was short as well. When it was my turn to taste her pussy I understood she was a good option to choose. Her pussy was wet with enjoyment so tasted good. My tongue went deep on her. She screamed no stop. She wanted to have more of my cock so she did it with tit fuck. It was a wonderful feeling that I could just come her face but my preference was go to normal way. She put condom on it and she started with cow girl. Her heavier body and tits were amazing to see, later she laid down and I had her missionary. The final was doggy while her big ass up she deserved a good finish in her mouth. She was happy to hear that (extraaaaa)She took it with enjoyment that I thought she swallowed it. A few seconds late she spitted out. So sheearned her well deserved 100Euro.
After Lena I went to kino for a long rest which was impossible due to girls who were approaching (in an hour nearly all girls on the line up came asked for a company some a few times after first refusal) and lots of action too place which was fun too see that some of us perform.
But best part of the kino fun was with those OAPs from Italy. These were just having laugh in the club, eating, drinking and taliking the girls with some hand gestures. Some girls were talking to then in Italian. They seemed some old bunch having fun awawy from their oldie ladies. A few minutes after I entered kino they arrived with three girls all speaking in Italian laid down side by side and the girls started to give them BBBJ. Their moans were higher than the sound of film on the screen: not only moans but also conversations between them funny. Probably they were comparing the service they were getting. One finished quickly but the other two were there for a long time, even at one point that guy came back to kino and made a joke (probably) to finish early.
Melissa a German cutie arrived at that time. She looked very promising and I always have had good time with German girls in the FKKs. Her nicely done tits also looked wonderful with thick nipples. She is a a natural blond with blue eyes. But in the room her qualities were limited. She mentioned the extras straight away. After my no her mood changed from warm to cold. She just became clock watcher. Either I could go bit harder with her and carry on for full half an hour or just finished up early instead of having one way sex. I have chosen the second option.
By the closed pool I found the rest place and took an hour nap. Amazingly noone bothered me there. After that just before I go back to airport I wanted to try my last chance. The line up was bit better (6 pm) but still nothing comparing with Artemis or Living Room. Quality was still not very high. There was a few hottish girls. One was a curly brunette with small tits and Tai/Phillipino look cutie with small body and tits and a long black hair. These two were the most busy girls on that day. I had my mid to either of them but they weren’t around. Jenny was the another option who had caught my eye.
Jenny is a Bulgarian dark haired 22 year old natural titied girl. Very natural. Again very good until the room but in the room she was only caring about extras. I could spent some extras on her. Her ass looked fine for an anal but upselling turned me off immediately. DFK was standard also BBBJ was in rush. I didn’t have the desire to have DATY so went to sex with a help of lube. Several positions of a sex was a unsatisfactory but I managed to finish. Paid her fee, have had warmish shower, some food and left the club. When I was changing some one was complaining about the hot water in the showers.
Until this time I have had left these clubs with smile on my face that The pleasures I had in these clubs were mostly unforgettable. But Palace was another disappointment for me after OASE. I think being big doesn’t mean everytime you get the best.
Palace is a superbly designed club but has got its distinctive aura that it is like a factory. The quicker you come girls are happier. Clients are expected to pay extras for to give better service. I think Messes are the blame that people with lots of money they do not care what they spend. When there isn’t any; most of the girls have the feeling that anyone there for a day should spend as much as those exhibitors.
Overall I might go back to Palace in the future but with some ifs. I would deffinetly choose a warmer day, so I can bare the warmish water. Maybe hotter day means hotter girls too. But extras are the big worry.
Stay good
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Vito Corleone
01-27-09, 02:52
Perhaps he's referring to the Bulgarian Maria ex Oase, who is now a very occassional player in the FKK scene from her steady employment at Oase a few years ago. Dedalus knows her current name...
Ortos
She is the one & I was told she looks the same so the name is not important. Thanks for everyone's help.
Vito Corleone
01-27-09, 03:02
Went to Palace today in order to compare with Oase.
Since its a fair amount of money, I like to get very pretty girls with hot bodies who perform just great too. I don't normally choose ordinary looking girls, even if they have legendary performance.
Although the Palace has a reputation for some sharks, especially when it gets too busy, there are really good girls too. Its merely a question of getting to know which girls are to be avoided and which are hot, as when i find great girls, I like to repeat.
Later was trying to decide between the Optifiks that were showing up 5 or 6PM onwards. Julia of Ukraine looked great (again except for exaggerated silicones), Laura of Romania was hot except tits a bit small. Then arrived Kim (or Kimi) (Brazil). Despite my Pause not quite being long enough (I'm too old) I was having a great deal of trouble to send Kimi away. Has a narrow face, cute nose, luscious lips, magnificent natural Cs, and superb arse. No discernable faults. "Do you like to kiss?", I asked stupidly. "I am from Brazil. Of course I like to kiss" was her reply. Brazilian girls are actually the best kissers in the world IMHO. She showed me and the deal was sealed.
BTW, Brazilian Kimi has darkish skin and a latin accent, and is clearly not German Kim previously reported on. She said she has only been at Palace for 2 months.
Kimi kisses like Brazil girls by opening wide and giving freely her whole tongue. Her pussy was smooth and delicious as well. Her BBBJ was very slurpy superior.
Had to have some doggy to check out her bottom, a bit of mish for a while and then a slight problem. She didn't bring any lube and I don't come at all quick. Next time I will supply it.
So we went back to BBBJ and DATY in 69 position.
She was quite enjoying herself and I could swear from her arsehole convulsions and thrusting into my face that she came more than once. The BBBJ went on and on and she didn't seem to tire. Eventually I couldn't hold out and exploded in her mouth. Nearly 1 hour plus CIM bonus well earned. Can't wait for next time with Kimi.
Overall Palace has a lot more really pretty girls, both face and body to my spec, than Oase last night, and great performers exist amoung these Palace Optifiks. So I am going to prefer the Palace. O.K. There are some old, fat, and uglies too, possibly with great personalities and performance, but I am not into that.
I also agree. I lust for pretty women with great bods & if they give really good service I like to repeat, cim, long sessions & etc. Average looks just does not do it for me. I think both Oase & Palace have equal amount of hot ladies, but I have not been there since early Dec.
Kimi from Brazil is a great session. Nice bj & overall GFE.
Hi Guys,
I'm considering a change of habit and would like to try out the FKK scene. I regularly enjoy the wohnung scene in Berlin, and have also indulged in a few PTs, but I would apreciate some answers to a couple of basic questions and a bit of guidance from the old hands on how to get the best from an FKK trip.
1. What is standard in a session? I see that Eur50 for a half hour is mentioned a lot, and I get the impression that BBBJ and DFK are included (I'm used to having these as extras)
2. What sort of things are included on the extras menu, and how much should I be paying for them?
3. How easy is it to take a break between sessions and really relax. Are the women OK with a "maybe later"?
4. Can you recommend Palace as a venue to pop my FKK cherry?
Sorry if these are a bit simplistic, but I would like to have a positive experience for my first time, that way, I'll want to come back.
Look forward to your erudite advice.
Cheers.
Hi Guys,
I'm considering a change of habit and would like to try out the FKK scene. I regularly enjoy the wohnung scene in Berlin, and have also indulged in a few PTs, but I would apreciate some answers to a couple of basic questions and a bit of guidance from the old hands on how to get the best from an FKK trip.
1. What is standard in a session? I see that Eur50 for a half hour is mentioned a lot, and I get the impression that BBBJ and DFK are included (I'm used to having these as extras)
2. What sort of things are included on the extras menu, and how much should I be paying for them?
3. How easy is it to take a break between sessions and really relax. Are the women OK with a "maybe later"?
4. Can you recommend Palace as a venue to pop my FKK cherry?
Sorry if these are a bit simplistic, but I would like to have a positive experience for my first time, that way, I'll want to come back.
Look forward to your erudite advice.
Cheers.
Hey,
1) BBBJ and DFK should be included. Some girls don't DFK though.
2) Extras are anal, CIM, COB. At some clubs, extras are whatever the girls can get away with and charge as extras.
3) You can do anything you want between sessions. Don't let the attitudes of the women bother you. If you say "no" and they take it badly, that is their problem.
4) Palace? Go check it out. If you read the posts under the Palace thread you will form a pretty good idea of what this place is about.
My personal recommendation for newbies is Samya in Koeln. Sharkfree. Unkompliziert. There are worse clubs and there are better clubs.
Its kind of like a "Goldilocks and the three bears" kind of club: its not too hot, not too cold, its just right. Its not too big, not too small, its just right. You get the picture.
To paraphrase Al Franken, future Senator from the great state of Minnesota: "Its good enough, smart enough and doggone it, people like it."
It is, meiner Meinung nach, a very well run club. There is a mysterious Goldfinger type character in a room off to the side quietly manipulating things. But don't let that put you off.
Read this too:
769453
Erudite? Not sure if this advice is erudite but thanks for the compliment.
I finally made it to Palace after a long time off. I was worried the selection and quality of service went down after reading recent posting.
My first visit was on a Sunday. I know Sundays could be slow but sometimes you find good service when its slow in general. I was approached by several females. I notice there weren't to many to select from. Patients from the female seem lower. They wanted you in the room as soon as possible. It was a red flag to turn them down. I think they got spoiled from the Messe. I decided to take a nap in the relax lounge.
I was approach later by a nicely shape blond from Czech. Her name was Gina. She seem really friendly. She didn't seem to rush by my other head logic . I must have been thinking to get her in the room now. I told her I was tired and if she wouldn't mind working . She smile I have a lot energy baby. We went into the room. I was ask are you new to FKK. I told her I'm a frequent customer. She tried to do her upsell. She show me the picture diagram with the prices.
$50 standard, $50 if you go over the 30 minute, $50 CIM,COB,CIF and $100 for anal. She tried to sell me extra for DFK, if you want a slow time $50 extra and some other garbage. I told her I'll take the standard $50 twice. I got what I paid. I got a mediocre section.
I got a short BBJ, Short ride, and then I was to do the work. I was up and pounding just enough to maintain erection . She said I must focus to cum. I was getting rushed after only 5 min after actually fucking. My dick went soft after a few minute later with that kind of Enthusiasm.
If i was to be rushed I want the full time I spend with her. I used my brains and started talking making her spend almost the full 30 minutes with me.
Conclusion she good for an optifuck but not a repeater.
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Friday at palace would be the real test to see if thing change from the past.
The selection at Palace was not the same compare to almost 2 years ago. They had a lot more younger and hotter looking girls I think in the past. This maybe seasonal to the profession. I still had great time here though.
There is a lot more selection in weekend at a FKK in general. My previous visit was kinda mediocre on Sunday. Today the selection was better a little like the older Palace I knew.
I was able to go 3 round with 3 nice ladies.
Lady 1, I think her name was Darius from Romanian. A Blond with a cute ass. 22 years old. She tried to up sell and I said no. I got a great session from her. No rush and good service. DFK, BLS, BBJ
Lady 2, Aida half German/black. I was worried because I couldn't get a vibe from her with other customers approach her. I finally decided to ask her to come over when she was walking by. She was really friendly. Sweet girl, great sex, beautiful body and great ass. I was advice of the extra just to let me know before sex. That way there was no confusion. I just wanted standard and I got great service. It was not a up sell but just an advice for the cost. A definite repeater if I had time.
Lady 3, I can't remember her name. I just saw her late at night around 10 pm by the front bar. I didn't see her on floor. She's blond and she reminds me of the pornstar Krystal Steal. I was hoping to see her on the floor and dreams came true 45 minutes later. I stared at her when I saw her later.
She realized I was horny for her and we started talking. She from Romanian and that all I could remember. The rest of the conversation was gear to the reason I was in Palace was so I could have sex with her. Dirty talk is fun.
She forgot to mention any up sell. She just jump on me and blew me in room. We had a few kama sutra position later with me asking her that I wanted to finish in her mouth. She told me its 50 extra. And I said ok. Things keep it high pace as before with me finishing in CIM. She work hard and It was really a fun session.
After reading the board with misses at Palace. I got 3 good session and 1 mediocre session. Palace didn't seem so bad compare to the past.
There is alot upselling by asking fellow hobbist while waiting between rounds.
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Hey Puff Time,
I think our erudite headmaster Jackyo has mostly said it all. I am new to the FKK world having returned back from my second visit to Samya a couple of days ago.
Our colleague Excess recommended Samya to me as an induction to the FKK world and I am most gratefull for his wise council.
Its been a great place to get started. You can see my previous report in the Samya thread. Needless to say I will be posting another regarding my recent trip as soon as I get time.
Anyway if you do intend to go to Samya and theres anything a fellow newbie can help you with, ask away.
I am back there at the end of Feb.
Z
Blue Swede
01-27-09, 23:13
Nicoletta from Italy. She didn’t sound much Italian to my ears but looked very sexy on the body, unfortunally her curly fake blond hair wasn’t matching her face. But she was enjoyable for a small chat. Ten minutes later we were in the room. Quickly she tried to sell me some extras which were displaid on the bed with a sheet of paper. I said no to all. She wasn’t pleased. A short DFK followed BBBJ with some light strokes. I went down for a DATY Sex was not much energetic. She did her duty with with no complains. We were out in 20minutes. Nothing special or memorable.
Isn't this the Nicoletta that were at Atlantis back at those ages?
She is a Sarah Jessica Parker look-alike. At least she was some years ago.
Then she was from Romania, but she might have found out that Romanian girls don't have the best reputation everywhere. (I have had luck with Romanians so far...).
Also, I could svear that I saw this girl at Riviera in Barcelona in November, or her twin sister... That girl was dressed in fishnet dress and drunk beyond control.
Blue
Isn't this the Nicoletta that were at Atlantis back at those ages?
She is a Sarah Jessica Parker look-alike. At least she was some years ago.
Then she was from Romania, but she might have found out that Romanian girls don't have the best reputation everywhere. (I have had luck with Romanians so far...).
BlueYeah it's her. Looks like Sarah Jessica Parker, just brown eyes exeption. Romanians have lots of bad reputation but there are gems too. They just needed diging.
Vito Corleone
01-28-09, 01:25
hi guys,
i'm considering a change of habit and would like to try out the fkk scene. i regularly enjoy the wohnung scene in berlin, and have also indulged in a few pts, but i would apreciate some answers to a couple of basic questions and a bit of guidance from the old hands on how to get the best from an fkk trip.
1. what is standard in a session? i see that eur50 for a half hour is mentioned a lot, and i get the impression that bbbj and dfk are included (i'm used to having these as extras)
2. what sort of things are included on the extras menu, and how much should i be paying for them?
3. how easy is it to take a break between sessions and really relax. are the women ok with a "maybe later"?
4. can you recommend palace as a venue to pop my fkk cherry?
sorry if these are a bit simplistic, but i would like to have a positive experience for my first time, that way, i'll want to come back.
look forward to your erudite advice.
cheers.
some women will charge extra for dfk & some just refuse to offer it. some will tongue [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) you while sitting on the couch.
palace, depends what you are looking for. if you want young, pretty women with great bods then palace, oase & world are the places visit. why not visit artemis in berlin? there is a chance some sharks will smell newbie blood & try to take a bite out of you. this can happen @ any of the big clubs, but it seems to happen more @ palace. if you really want dfk & the total gfe package, then some of the smaller clubs with average/above average looking women are available.
Ekliges Lauern
01-28-09, 03:52
Hi Guys,
I'm considering a change of habit and would like to try out the FKK scene. I regularly enjoy the wohnung scene in Berlin, and have also indulged in a few PTs, but I would apreciate some answers to a couple of basic questions and a bit of guidance from the old hands on how to get the best from an FKK trip.
1. What is standard in a session? I see that Eur50 for a half hour is mentioned a lot, and I get the impression that BBBJ and DFK are included (I'm used to having these as extras)
2. What sort of things are included on the extras menu, and how much should I be paying for them?
3. How easy is it to take a break between sessions and really relax. Are the women OK with a "maybe later"?
4. Can you recommend Palace as a venue to pop my FKK cherry?
Sorry if these are a bit simplistic, but I would like to have a positive experience for my first time, that way, I'll want to come back.
Look forward to your erudite advice.
Cheers.
Hey Puff Time,
To answer your questions:
1. Standard session is BBBJ and fucking for up to 30 minutes. 50 Euros. Women are under no obligation at most clubs to kiss, let you finger them, DATY. Some do some don't. If DFK is important, it is pretty easy to test this in the couch/kino before committing. As for DATY, if important, best to ask before commiting to the room.
Some clubs are more high milage, with the DFK and DATY provided by all women. As with everything, there is a tradeoff. Usually the women at high milage clubs are older on average and somewhat less attractive.
2. At Palace, extras are CIM 50E, COB 50E and Anal 100E. Extra arbitrage is possible in Germany; the pricing structure for extras in NRW is more favorable. My advise is to not agree to any other extras proposed or any non-standard pricing as agreeing will mark you as a newbee and set the expectation with the women that you are willing to pay non-standard prices. Word spreads quickly among the women.
3. Quite easy. Smile and say "Pause" and maybe later. If she smiles and leaves, consider her for a session later. If she gets bitchy, write her off. Use the opportunity to interact with the women.
4. Yes. One, everyone has an opinion on Palace. You should have one too and the only way is to actually go there. Actually that is not technically true as some of the most vocal Palace bashers have never been to the club or have not been there in years. Makes one wonder why they are so vocal about it. A fair question to ask the Palace bashers when judging their credibility is "When was the last time you visited the club?" Keep that in mind when assessing the credibility of the Palace bashers.
Seriously your enjoyment of Palace will be determined by two factors. The first is whether you come across as a newbee sex tourist that will likely never be seen again in the club and your skill in selecting women.
It helps if you speak some German, but many successful Palace mongers speak no German. I tend to pick women based mostly on observation. Other such as Ortos select by testing the waters on the couch and in the Kino.
My notes for Palace 1st timers:
http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=750546&postcount=3079
Ortos' comments on selecting women:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=836455&postcount=3636
Before anyone says these skills are not needed at other clubs, this is bullshit. These skills will serve you well at any FKK. Difference is, once you have learned to select women at Palace, you can do it well anywhere. Might as well learn at the best training ground.
I cut my teeth at Atlantis, which was considered sharky in its day. If you master the art of selection at Palace, you will be able to apply those skills to any club.
As for Samya, I could not comment as I have never been there. Unlike some others on this forum, I think one does a disservice to pass on hearsay when one has no direct firsthand experience.
Final thought, if you are located in Berlin, why not start out at Artemis?
Friday at palace would be the real test to see if thing change from the past.
The selection at Palace was not the same compare to almost 2 years ago. They had a lot more younger and hotter looking girls I think in the past. This maybe seasonal to the profession. I still had great time here though.
There is a lot more selection in weekend at a FKK in general. My previous visit was kinda mediocre on Sunday. Today the selection was better a little like the older Palace I knew.
I was able to go 3 round with 3 nice ladies.
Lady 1, I think her name was Darius from Romanian. A Blond with a cute ass. 22 years old. She tried to up sell and I said no. I got a great session from her. No rush and good service. DFK, BLS, BBJ
Lady 2, Aida half German/black. I was worried because I couldn't get a vibe from her with other customers approach her. I finally decided to ask her to come over when she was walking by. She was really friendly. Sweet girl, great sex, beautiful body and great ass. I was advice of the extra just to let me know before sex. That way there was no confusion. I just wanted standard and I got great service. It was not a up sell but just an advice for the cost. A definite repeater if I had time.
Lady 3, I can't remember her name. I just saw her late at night around 10 pm by the front bar. I didn't see her on floor. She's blond and she reminds me of the pornstar Krystal Steal. I was hoping to see her on the floor and dreams came true 45 minutes later. I stared at her when I saw her later.
She realized I was horny for her and we started talking. She from Romanian and that all I could remember. The rest of the conversation was gear to the reason I was in Palace was so I could have sex with her. Dirty talk is fun.
She forgot to mention any up sell. She just jump on me and blew me in room. We had a few kama sutra position later with me asking her that I wanted to finish in her mouth. She told me its 50 extra. And I said ok. Things keep it high pace as before with me finishing in CIM. She work hard and It was really a fun session.
After reading the board with misses at Palace. I got 3 good session and 1 mediocre session. Palace didn't seem so bad compare to the past.
There is alot upselling by asking fellow hobbist while waiting between rounds.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.Are you sure the name of the first girl was Darius and not Doda/Dado? I haven't seen Dado/Doda for a long time.
West By Sun
01-28-09, 12:26
4. Can you recommend Palace as a venue to pop my FKK cherry?
Hello, I don't know when you visit Palace, but I am warning you, this place is currently not in a good condition at all.
I was ripped off for ther first time in last week by a girl who claims to be from Lebanon! Basically I do not care of nationality, but anotehr girl told me she is a Romanian.After that, being nervous I could not recover my libido. Ok this is a typical Palace experience.
Go to Oase. Maybe you will be spoken to by Lucia who is always looking for newbies(she provides a good service but too professional) or some aggressive girls. Skip them, and go with Timea(of Hungary, taller one, attention to another Timea) or Magda for your first session.
Cheers,
WBS
Hello, I don't know when you visit Palace, but I am warning you, this place is currently not in a good condition at all.
I was ripped off for ther first time in last week by a girl who claims to be from Lebanon! Basically I do not care of nationality, but anotehr girl told me she is a Romanian.After that, being nervous I could not recover my libido. Ok this is a typical Palace experience.
Go to Oase. Maybe you will be spoken to by Lucia who is always looking for newbies(she provides a good service but too professional) or some aggressive girls. Skip them, and go with Timea(of Hungary, taller one, attention to another Timea) or Magda for your first session.
Cheers,
WBS
Once again (is this the 100th time??): It is not the club that rips you off, but an individual girl who happens on that day to be working at Palace. If you read any of these reports about almost any FKK club, you will see that girls move in between clubs. LBC reported just today a Romanian girl who alternates between clubs on a day to day basis. So who's to say this "Lebanese" Romanian won't be at Oase tomorrow?
The point, yet again, is that it is often the monger's own fault (at least in party) when he experiences a bad/dud session. Did you select the girl carefully? Did you observe how she interacts with other men; what her prior customers show by their body lingo/faces at the pay lockers? Did you explain exactly what you want before you comitted to a session with her? Did you attempt to test the chemistry on the couch or in Kino? Did you give off newbie signals? Are you so naieve that you cannot yourself tell the difference between a Lebanese and Romanian? Who does she hang with? Other Romanians?
As for ripp offs: one must define in detail your experience with the girl before it can be called a ripp-off case. There is a difference between having a lack-lustre/dissatisfying session and being ripped off, no?
Let's not automatically blame the club just because you happened to make a mistake in your girl selection. If you double fault on the tennis court, don't blame the racket. Don't think that the same thing might not happen in another club, like Oase, Word or GT...
As for the "condition" of Palace these days: I was there recently and found it in tip-top form.
Ortos
M P Lurker
01-28-09, 21:36
Hello, I don't know when you visit Palace, but I am warning you, this place is currently not in a good condition at all.
O.K. Czech Linda is gone plus another old favourite, but I would say the Palace was as good as ever last Saturday night. I will certainly keep returning to moderately busy times when the hot girls are there.
I have some ideas which girls to avoid, but sorry I don't know their names, however if they act like sharks, they probably are.
Are you sure the name of the first girl was Darius and not Doda/Dado? I haven't seen Dado/Doda for a long time.My best description is a Romanian short blond hair, around 5 ft 6' without shoes. Slim with some meat from behind. The problem is there are a number of females that fit that description. She wore a colorful belts that doesn't cover her ass. That the best I describe of her. I saw here twice the 2 days I was there.
I was approached by her stating that she wanted me because she though I was fresh meat to the place. My friend been there before and she recognizes him. She didn't seem to rush and was able to talk a bit dirty so I went along with it. I'm not even sure if my friend had her. I'm starting to lose count after a while. Just going out to have good time.
I was ripped off for ther first time in last week by a girl who claims to be from Lebanon! Basically I do not care of nationality, but anotehr girl told me she is a Romanian.After that, being nervous I could not recover my libido. Ok this is a typical Palace experience.
Can you explain why things didnt work out? Just the mention of her being Romanian ruined it for you? In my book, if the girls hot and naked and turns you on (im assuming she did for you, otherwise you wouldnt have taken her to a room) that's all that's needed. Religion, heritage, political stance...all means nothing in the room....as long as she's naked and sex is on the docket.
It is not the club that rips you off, but an individual girl who happens on that day to be working at Palace.
Let's not automatically blame the club just because you happened to make a mistake in your girl selection.
Your correct to a point...the girl could possibly be moving from club to club. New talent always get more attention than the girls who've been there forever. I've only been here once and im willing to give it another shot. There are sharks at every club. If you get bad service you just have to write it off. You get bad service...and an upcharge that's not expected...and management siding with the girl...that on the other hand is a bit hard to swallow. no pun intended.
Basketcase
01-29-09, 00:44
Salute West By Sun,
Hello, I don't know when you visit Palace, but I am warning you, this place is currently not in a good condition at all.
Thank you for the warning West By Sun. I am not expected to be back in Palace until some time. Maybe April since a crew gathering is occuring then. Sorry to hear Palace is not in good condition.
I was ripped off for ther first time in last week by a girl who claims to be from Lebanon! Basically I do not care of nationality, but anotehr girl told me she is a Romanian.After that, being nervous I could not recover my libido. Ok this is a typical Palace experience.
I am wondering if the girl you referred had humongous tits, had bleached blond hair, good tan, a babyish looking face and big brown eyes? I have attached a quote from my Oase trip report where I noted Lisa (Lebanon) as a new girl at Oase but I have not seen her since her debut at Oase.
Lisa (?) (Lebanon) NEW GIRL at Oase, 20 years with 19 years spent living in Germany, young looking face, average build, well tanned, bleached long blond hair, big natural D or E cups that looked heavenly as she loped around Oase club. The Deustch table area girls were talking about her and nick named her “Big Tits” such was the selling point that Lisa’s assets had. The girls said it does not matter how good looking a girl is and what a body she has – if her service is no good then she will not get the business at Oase. My observation of Lisa in action in the kino is a smooth operator that delivers the goods.
Lisa had started at 9pm coming into the club wearing a thick pink wooly jersey and blue jeans and was shown around by one of the receptionists before getting naked bar a pair of high heeled shoes and a black cloth belt around her waist.
I wanted to try out the new girl as she had all the toys a man could want - lovely tits, nice tan legs but another bloke got there before I did having the same idea catching her as she exited the ladies changing area.
Is Lisa from Oase the same girl that you experienced at Palace? She seems new and she is trying the different Hesse clubs before deciding on one to work at.
Go to Oase. Maybe you will be spoken to by Lucia who is always looking for newbies(she provides a good service but too professional) or some aggressive girls. Skip them, and go with Timea(of Hungary, taller one, attention to another Timea) or Magda for your first session.
Lucia (Italy/Romania) at Oase gets mixed reviews - good and bad but always seemed to me professional and does the business as you say.
I agree, Timea (Hungary) at Oase, the bigger auburn haired one is a great session at Oase and Magda (Polen) at Oase is a lot fun too. I love her intense eye contact when sucking your dick.
Cheers,
Londonbasketcase
Ekliges Lauern
01-29-09, 03:35
I was ripped off for ther first time in last week by a girl who claims to be from Lebanon! Basically I do not care of nationality, but anotehr girl told me she is a Romanian.After that, being nervous I could not recover my libido. Ok this is a typical Palace experience.
Ahh, some Lebanese (Romanian) girl. I've heard some Spanish girl is a shark, but thanks for telling us to watch out for some Lebanese/Romanian girl.
Seriously, how about a name and some details as to what transpired. That might be useful information to the forum.
Go to Oase. Maybe you will be spoken to by Lucia who is always looking for newbies(she provides a good service but too professional) or some aggressive girls. Skip them, and go with Timea(of Hungary, taller one, attention to another Timea) or Magda for your first session.
Yep, I know Lucia (DR if memory serves). She tried to claim we went over half an hour when we didn't. I stood my ground and she backed down. So how is that any different from your complaint regarding Palace? Should not I conclude that Oase is full of sharks and management does nothing about it?
Vito Corleone
01-29-09, 03:59
Yep, I know Lucia (DR if memory serves). She tried to claim we went over half an hour when we didn't. I stood my ground and she backed down. So how is that any different from your complaint regarding Palace? Should not I conclude that Oase is full of sharks and management does nothing about it?
I know there are many fans of Verona @ Oase, but she does upsell anal & constantly upsells CIM. I first sessioned with her 2 yrs ago & she was an average session then. After some great reviews, sessioned with her again in August 2008. The session was better than the last one & she give above average service, but after 1 hr, complained she worked really hard on the bj & demanded an extra 50E. I thought she was joking, but she was serious. I never agreed to CIM & I did not even finish so I did not understand what her problem was. I suggested to talk to the front desk, but she just stormed off.
This was one of the few bad apples I have had @ Oase, but should I also include Oase as shark infested & avoid @ all costs? No. I just shrugged my shoulders as I have a long list of ATF's @ Oase. Women have tried to cheat me more @ Oase than in any other club. If you have some experience & use some common FKK/sex sence, then any guy should be fine in Palace.
Isabella Romanian/Hungarian does not kiss (extra) & a typical sport fu*k, but looks really hot was an ok session. No passionate & zero gfe, but works @ Oase. Alia from Germany also does not kiss, but everyone seems to pick on Palace as the only club where kissing is not included or extra.
West had a bad experience & thinks the entire club is in bad condition. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but some of the Palace bashing is ridiculous.
Ekliges Lauern
01-29-09, 05:06
Once again (is this the 100th time??): It is not the club that rips you off, but an individual girl who happens on that day to be working at Palace. If you read any of these reports about almost any FKK club, you will see that girls move in between clubs. LBC reported just today a Romanian girl who alternates between clubs on a day to day basis. So who's to say this "Lebanese" Romanian won't be at Oase tomorrow?
Yep, the topic never grows old for some people. The real Frequently Asked Question seems to be: "I'm a newbee, should I go to Palace". I'm going to go through the forum this weekend and create a FAQ with a link to a post from every senior member that has expressed an opinion on the subject.
The point, yet again, is that it is often the monger's own fault (at least in party) when he experiences a bad/dud session. Did you select the girl carefully? Did you observe how she interacts with other men; what her prior customers show by their body lingo/faces at the pay lockers? Did you explain exactly what you want before you comitted to a session with her? Did you attempt to test the chemistry on the couch or in Kino? Did you give off newbie signals? Are you so naieve that you cannot yourself tell the difference between a Lebanese and Romanian? Who does she hang with? Other Romanians?
I'm wondering if there is a correlation between bad service and the rising trend of people people using down time for what I consider non-productive activities at an FKK. Downtime between sessions is for observation of and interaction with the ladies. Increasingly, mongers want to socialize with a crew of other ISGer rather than using spending time observing and interacting. Plus, a large group of English speakers hanging out screams "sex tourists" to the ladies.
Granted there are benefits with sharing intel with other mongers, but your radar will atrophy if you spend your between session time BSing with other men.
Another recent trend seems to be mongers who want to use their laptops, play cards, read a book, sleep, watch sporting events, etc. at clubs. Pretty much anything except observing the beautiful naked women. Ok, I can understand getting a few winks in the Kino if you are jet lagged or watching a major sporting event (World Cup finals or home country playing, Super Bowl for yanks) but put away the cards and observe and interact with the naked women.
Hi Guys,
I will be visiting Frankfurt in the coming saturday and will be there just for 1 night.Please advice me where should i go? Should i explore the RLD near the train station or i should go to any FKK Clubs.If clubs are better which is the best place to go as i dont have time.Also please let me know the prices in all the places.
Thanks in advance.
West By Sun
01-30-09, 00:28
Hello guys,
Basically it is me who am stupid and naive as Ortos said. But i can not be a profound observer like him.
As far as I know, there is the only one girl who is claiming to be a Libanese. She was surprised when I began to talk to her in french because she can not hyde her inability of french langage while speaking in french with me. But as I always have big probleme of english, so I do not care of other people's langage skill.
Radler, I don't want to mention her name. However I am sure you know her. She has an arabian name and huge tits.
LBC, the girl I refered as "another girl" is Angelina.
Mick Licker, the only good thing for me in last Saturday night was Lina. She is coming back, got so fat and became so boomy. It seems she is less aggressive than two or three years ago. Except that, the lineup was dead for me.
VC, no, the bad condition I talked about is purely as to lukewarm lineup. The lastweek was in the valley between two big messe periods.
The girl I went with pretended I was with her over half an hour and I was sure that it was under 20 minutes. This is the common scene we can see anytime in this place, but I used the word rip off this time ever in my whole fkk experience because it is the reception lady who asked me to pay over charge price. The reception lady was not my dear Meggi but another unknown blonde lady. She believed a falsified Libanese's lie.
Cheers,
WBS
The girl I went with pretended I was with her over half an hour and I was sure that was under 20 minutes, this is the common scene we can see anytime in this place, but I used the word rip off this time ever in my whole fkk experience because it is the reception lady who asked me to pay over charge price.
Have to ask, were you wearing a watch when this happened?
Basketcase
01-30-09, 01:22
I will be visiting Frankfurt in the coming saturday and will be there just for 1 night.Please advice me where should i go? Should i explore the RLD near the train station or i should go to any FKK Clubs.If clubs are better which is the best place to go as i dont have time.Also please let me know the prices in all the places.
Thanks in advance.
Wotcher Sex Hunk,
There is a messe in FFM from Sammstag, 31 Januar to Dientstag, 3 Februar so you will be in for a treat if you are in town since the place will be hopping with delegates from around der Welt. It will be a party town like Newquay with so much international guests to mingle with. Maybe you do not need to go to the RLD or a FKK since there are pickings to be had in open play being social with the ladies in attendance at the Messe or even local Hesse frauleins wanting a bit of foreign schwanz.
I sometimes get advised by the girls to have a look around FFM town and that I would enjoy it since it is so international, they say I would be able to meet some nice people there being what I am, but they suspect that the shopping is much better in my local home town than the Zeil.
If you really must punt start off from the FFM Hbf and head across the road to the RLD and see what you can get for €30 a pop suck and fuck with the Eastern European, Asian and African ladies there in the Eros Centres. You have to be well fit to handle the stairs up and down to see all the girlies in their rented room in those Eros Centres. Wrap up warm and bring your wits for negotiating and sensing the good girls.
You will be not alone in your hunt for good providers there. Usually there is an international crowd doing the rounds as well as you. Think people from obviously Deutschland, Frankreich, Osterreich, Italy, Griechenland, Ireland, Espana, Turkei, Rusland, even the odd one from Gross Britannia. English is widely spoken and for some girls it is preferred. It is also good sport to avoid the strip club touts that try to draw you into their venue with €5 entritt and then whatever else for drinks and dances with the questionable ladies therein. Spend some time in the porn shops that are strewn around the RLD and take in a sex kino experience and knock out your first one with your hand for frei while watching Silvia Saint take one up the jaxsie by some well hung stud and ten of his mates also equally well endowned.
After whetting your appetite in the RLD its time for the main event. Take the U Bahn to Neue Borse/Industriehof in the North West of FFM to find FKK Palace. Entritt is a hefty €75 and more for the girls at €50 for half a hour for a suck and fuck. There is generally an excellent line up on a Sammstag nacht at the Palace. Your eyes will pop out of their sockets looking at all the naked ladies (although of late Palace girls are wearing more and more clothes as standard).
Or you can make your way to FKK Oase - some public transportation directions can be found in the attached post:
838080
Heading to Oase is my personal recommendation. You pay a bit more in transport especially with the taxis but it is a better experience I think. Entritt is a little less at €65. You will be amazed at the bevy of beauties there that you can be sucked by and fuck for €50 for half a hour. Read some of my reports on the Oase thread for more details.
Whatever you do Sex Hunk please remember the details like names & nationalities of the girls and report back here your experiences. We would very much like to know how it all went.
Take care,
Londonbasketcase
Basketcase
01-30-09, 01:37
Salute West By Sun,
As far as I know, there is the only one girl who is claiming to be a Libanese. She was surprised when I began to talk to her in french because she can not hyde her inability of french langage while speaking in french with me. But as I always have big probleme of english, so I do not care of other people's langage skill. The girl I went with pretended I was with her over half an hour and I was sure that it was under 20 minutes. This is the common scene we can see anytime in this place, but I used the word rip off this time ever in my whole fkk experience because it is the reception lady who asked me to pay over charge price. The reception lady was not my dear Meggi but another unknown blonde lady. She believed a falsified Libanese's lie.
Radler, I don't want to mention her name. However I am sure you know her. She has an arabian name and huge tits.
LBC, the girl I refered as "another girl" is Angelina.
Mick Licker, the only good thing for me in last Saturday night was Lina. She is coming back, got so fat and became so boomy. It seems she is less aggressive than two or three years ago. Except that, the lineup was dead for me.
This does sound like Lisa (Lebanon) that came to work for a night at Oase try out the scene there. It did seem like she was doing good service and she certainly had good looks, nice all over tan and a huge set of natural knockers that begged to be fondled and nipples sucked to contentment.
Oh, good the other girl was Angelina (Czech) - the dirty minx. She is a naughty girl and needs a good rimming.
I still have not experienced the talents of Lina (Czech) that some have advocated on this esteemed forum. I agree that she is sporting a bit more weight than I would like on a sex provider that I actually have to hand over hard earned euros to for services rendered.
So sad that the Palace line up was dead - maybe it was as you say in a valley in between the two messes either end of the period that you were in FFM. This differs to the reports from Mick Licker & Ortos amongst others during approximately the same period.
I have no plans at present to attend the Palace but I do have opportunity to do so should a gap in my trip schedule allow.
Cheers,
Londonbasketcase
Hi Guys,
I will be visiting Frankfurt in the coming saturday and will be there just for 1 night.Please advice me where should i go? Should i explore the RLD near the train station or i should go to any FKK Clubs.If clubs are better which is the best place to go as i dont have time.Also please let me know the prices in all the places.
Thanks in advance.
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Dear Londonbasketcase,
I am really thnakful to you for your time and detailed guidelines. I will be there tomorrow and follow your advices and hopefully will find something nice to report soon.
Thanks Buddy once again.
Wotcher Sex Hunk,
There is a messe in FFM from Sammstag, 31 Januar to Dientstag, 3 Februar so you will be in for a treat if you are in town since the place will be hopping with delegates from around der Welt. It will be a party town like Newquay with so much international guests to mingle with. Maybe you do not need to go to the RLD or a FKK since there are pickings to be had in open play being social with the ladies in attendance at the Messe or even local Hesse frauleins wanting a bit of foreign schwanz.
I sometimes get advised by the girls to have a look around FFM town and that I would enjoy it since it is so international, they say I would be able to meet some nice people there being what I am, but they suspect that the shopping is much better in my local home town than the Zeil.
If you really must punt start off from the FFM Hbf and head across the road to the RLD and see what you can get for €30 a pop suck and fuck with the Eastern European, Asian and African ladies there in the Eros Centres. You have to be well fit to handle the stairs up and down to see all the girlies in their rented room in those Eros Centres. Wrap up warm and bring your wits for negotiating and sensing the good girls.
You will be not alone in your hunt for good providers there. Usually there is an international crowd doing the rounds as well as you. Think people from obviously Deutschland, Frankreich, Osterreich, Italy, Griechenland, Ireland, Espana, Turkei, Rusland, even the odd one from Gross Britannia. English is widely spoken and for some girls it is preferred. It is also good sport to avoid the strip club touts that try to draw you into their venue with €5 entritt and then whatever else for drinks and dances with the questionable ladies therein. Spend some time in the porn shops that are strewn around the RLD and take in a sex kino experience and knock out your first one with your hand for frei while watching Silvia Saint take one up the jaxsie by some well hung stud and ten of his mates also equally well endowned.
After whetting your appetite in the RLD its time for the main event. Take the U Bahn to Neue Borse/Industriehof in the North West of FFM to find FKK Palace. Entritt is a hefty €75 and more for the girls at €50 for half a hour for a suck and fuck. There is generally an excellent line up on a Sammstag nacht at the Palace. Your eyes will pop out of their sockets looking at all the naked ladies (although of late Palace girls are wearing more and more clothes as standard).
Or you can make your way to FKK Oase - some public transportation directions can be found in the attached post:
838080
Heading to Oase is my personal recommendation. You pay a bit more in transport especially with the taxis but it is a better experience I think. Entritt is a little less at €65. You will be amazed at the bevy of beauties there that you can be sucked by and fuck for €50 for half a hour. Read some of my reports on the Oase thread for more details.
Whatever you do Sex Hunk please remember the details like names & nationalities of the girls and report back here your experiences. We would very much like to know how it all went.
Take care,
Londonbasketcase
I never been to Germany.
I am very experienced with Spain and Cyprus.
I want to know list of best places those who have the youngest and quality and selection please.
Is Berlin better or Frnkfrt?
Friends
Are there any hotels near Oase? Which hotel (tourist quality) you'd recommend?
Thanks
BB
Hey BB,
What a coincidence, BB! My personal hotel of choice is the B&B Frankfurt Nord, which is ca. 8 KM from Oase.
Many here like to stay at the Mercur in Friedrichsdorf, but others here (LBC and Breadman for instance) who can give you better info about that place than I can.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Another recent trend seems to be mongers who want to use their laptops, play cards, read a book, sleep, watch sporting events, etc. at clubs. Pretty much anything except observing the beautiful naked women. Ok, I can understand getting a few winks in the Kino if you are jet lagged or watching a major sporting event (World Cup finals or home country playing, Super Bowl for yanks) but put away the cards and observe and interact with the naked women.
I generally try to avoid comments from this corner of the room, but 'tween session down-time and how it is spent by a guy is his business.
There are those who have a complicated time understanding others who wear different cloths, talk with a different accent or structure an arrangement in a different manner. More is the pity to those "my-way-or-the-highway" personalities.
Not for nothing, but I know a number of cuties in the clubs who find the guys who sit on the couch in a corner alone and just "lauern" a bit "eklig."
There is absolutely no problem with guys spending time in between session telling jokes about crippled Grandmothers, discussing which lass has the nicest hinder in the room, arguing sports or politics, playing chess, backgammon or skat, reading a book or newspaper, sleeping, or even sitting alone in a corner and acting anti-social if one chooses (although my heart goes out to the guy).
Personally, out of respect for the girls' job and for the male guests who may want to take a dandy to the room, I usually keep my contact with a girl outside of the room pretty brief. A "Hallo", maybe a joke and often a playful grope with the ones that I know well. This way I'm not getting in the way of their job and I am still being friendly.
Also, I usually have a club's line-up assessed in about an hour to 90 minutes. After that, my free time is mine to enjoy as I please, and a club visit for me is all the more pleasant when I can also benefit from the company of good friends and fellow clubsters in addition to the frequent charms a club’s ladies. ISG and a few other boards have been a wonderful tool not only for assessing club talent, but also in facilitating meets for a number of interesting, funny and darn friendly Gents.
Again, more is the pity to those who still have yet to discover this.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Vito Corleone
01-31-09, 00:44
Friends
Are there any hotels near Oase? Which hotel (tourist quality) you'd recommend?
Thanks
BB
Mercure in Friedrichsdorf.
Vito Corleone
01-31-09, 01:02
Mick Licker, the only good thing for me in last Saturday night was Lina. She is coming back, got so fat and became so boomy. It seems she is less aggressive than two or three years ago. Except that, the lineup was dead for me.
The girl I went with pretended I was with her over half an hour and I was sure that it was under 20 minutes. This is the common scene we can see anytime in this place, but I used the word rip off this time ever in my whole fkk experience because it is the reception lady who asked me to pay over charge price. The reception lady was not my dear Meggi but another unknown blonde lady. She believed a falsified Libanese's lie.
WBS,
I have only seen Lina in her present overweight condition since I boycotted Palace for over 1 yr. Like LBC said, her body is a bit thick for me, but I think she has a pretty face & gives a really good bj & dfk with a passion. After banging Denisa & Mona for 2-3 hrs, I can just lay back & let Lina blow me for 30 minutes.
The 31-35 minutes scam does not happen often to me since I always wear a watch, but it did happen to me once @ Palace, twice @ Oase, once @ World & once @ GT. They all backed off when I showed them my watch & suggested we talk to management. Salome from Brazil @ Palace tried, but failed. Too bad, because she gave really good service & an overall good session. Not sure if this happens more @ Palace than other clubs, but management has provided the "menu" cards in all the rooms. I am a fan of the club, but I am not in denial about the sharks swimming around.
Vito Corleone
01-31-09, 01:25
I'm wondering if there is a correlation between bad service and the rising trend of people people using down time for what I consider non-productive activities at an FKK. Downtime between sessions is for observation of and interaction with the ladies. Increasingly, mongers want to socialize with a crew of other ISGer rather than using spending time observing and interacting. Plus, a large group of English speakers hanging out screams "sex tourists" to the ladies.
Granted there are benefits with sharing intel with other mongers, but your radar will atrophy if you spend your between session time BSing with other men.
Another recent trend seems to be mongers who want to use their laptops, play cards, read a book, sleep, watch sporting events, etc. at clubs. Pretty much anything except observing the beautiful naked women. Ok, I can understand getting a few winks in the Kino if you are jet lagged or watching a major sporting event (World Cup finals or home country playing, Super Bowl for yanks) but put away the cards and observe and interact with the naked women.
I was with 4 capos @ GT, 6 capos @ World & 7 capos @ Oase in early Dec all speaking English & none of us experienced any problems. Not sure if spending my downtime with fellow ISGers, friends or any English speaker has anything to do with bad service. When Salome tried to scam me @ Palace, I was with HB most of the day & he is no newbie. I think hangin with fellow mongers & checking out the ladies can be done @ the same time.
I think most of the mongers who use their laptops, play cards, read books & etc. are not newbies waiting for a shark bite. I never appreciated soccer until I started FKKing. Soccer is rarely on TV out here & the only sports highlight we do see is some spectacular bicycle kick goal. After watching real soccer players in between sessions, I have become a soccer fan. I also speak close to zero German & I have had some great sessions with women who do not speak English.
Not quite sure how others feel (except Dedalus), but this is a great way to spend time when re-juicing. Since the 1 tv @ Palace (in the smoking room) seem to only run German MTV, what does this have to do with bad service.
Hessen Bub
01-31-09, 10:04
So sad that the Palace line up was dead - maybe it was as you say in a valley in between the two messes either end of the period that you were in FFM.
Have a look at LSH and you will find a pretty amazing line-up from this week, names of over 50 women in there.
HB
West By Sun
01-31-09, 10:29
Hello LBC,
I could not read your post carefully. Your concern is Lisa. No, I am sure that my Lebanese girl who is a regular in Palace is not Lisa you are talking about. I have never seen this Lisa in Oise too.
Cheers,
WBS
West By Sun
01-31-09, 10:32
Have to ask, were you wearing a watch when this happened?
I was wearing a watch with stopwatch function. But I did not time the session.
WBS
M P Lurker
01-31-09, 14:07
Mick Licker, the only good thing for me in last Saturday night was Lina. She is coming back, got so fat and became so boomy. It seems she is less aggressive than two or three years ago. Except that, the lineup was dead for me.
"boomy" :confused:
I found several pretty girls there the same night and named some of them before. Your taste must be very different if you thought the lineup was dead. Perhaps slimmer girls are not attractive to you.
I will go back to day for hopefully more of the same and hope the Messe beauty fare crowd doesn't fill up the place too quick.
On another topic:
It would be great if I was allowed to take my laptop to work on something in between sessions, otherwise I have to look at leaving for a while and coming back again later. But this is not allowed as they are concerned about capture cams.
I don't really like girls to come and sit down for company normally as I expect they will want to lead up to a session, so if I'm Pause for next hour or two, I don't them to waste their time when they could be having another customer.
I prefer to go get the girls myself when I want company.
I never been to Germany.
I am very experienced with Spain and Cyprus.
I want to know list of best places those who have the youngest and quality and selection please.
Is Berlin better or Frnkfrt?
As I've written here before, my suggestion for a newbie club is neither in Berlin or in Frankfurt but in Koeln: Samya.
As far as comparing Berlin to Frankfurt, it depends on what you are looking for.
RLD: Frankfurt has one and it is huge, Berlin none. Advantage Frankfurt.
Strassenstrich: Berlin has a better street scene. Advantage Berlin.
FKK Clubs: Berlin has one (wait, one and a half if you give half a point to La Folie), Frankfurt has three big ones which are a must for the tourist plus a couple of neighboring minor clubs. Advantage Frankfurt.
Wohnungspuffs: Berlin takes the cake. There is such variety. All offering discretion. Go find Angus's posts under the Germany thread. Advantage Berlin.
Sexkinos: This is a Berlin specialty. Sleazy but its good to wallow in sleaze every now and then. Advantage Berlin.
Partytreffs: Hessen's PTs don't measure up. The best are in NRW or further north in OWL. Berlin has one: Pussyclub in Schoenefeld but I've not been yet. Advantage NRW.
Paerchenclubs, Swingerclubs: This is an area I am fuzzy on. Maybe someone else who follows this forum can fill this section in (Iseeu? Are you out there?)
High Kultur (Museums, Philharmoniker, etc...) : This isn't even close. Advantage Berlin
Luft: Advantage Berliner Luft
Schnauze: Advantage Berliner Schnauze
The Alternative Scene: Advantage Berlin
Multi Kulti Szene: Advantage Berlin
Charm: Advantage Berlin
Cuisine: Berlin claims to be the birthplace of the Currywurst. It is, of course, home to the Berliner. (This is what some folks think JFK was referring to when he said in his Bahstan accent: "Ich bin ein Berliner." His grammar was a bit off. )
Shoppen: Go visit KaDeWe, specifically the Feinschmeckersetage, in Berlin. Advantage Berlin.
Cafes: Cafe Einstein. Its like a scene out of a movie on cafe life. Its like everyone is posing for some unseen cinematographer. Of course, if you really want to indulge in the cafe scene, best to go to Vienna. My favorite in Vienna: Cafe Oberlaa. But I digress. Advantage Vienna.
The danger in going to Berlin is that there is so much to see and do there, you may be short of time to indulge in the hobby. There is the whole Umland to see too, particularly Potsdam.
Frankfurt is lacking in a je ne sais quoi. After you've visited the Roemer, the Zeil and visited Goethe's Haus, there is not much to do except indulge in the hobby.
Berlin is also, by the way, only a stone's throw from Poland. In fact, the hotels there send their laundry across the border to be washed in Poland. Its cheaper.
I mention this because its proximity to Poland is also an advantage. If you've ever been with Polish women, they are the gold standard (by coincidence, most of them are blondes).
The clubs which stock Bulgarian and Romanian women just aren't up to par. Best to avoid (though this is quite difficult to accomplish these days).
IMHO, though, the Hurenhauptstadt Deutschlands is Koeln, not Frankfurt or Berlin.
Ekliges Lauern
01-31-09, 18:34
Not for nothing, but I know a number of cuties in the clubs who find the guys who sit on the couch in a corner alone and just "lauern" a bit "eklig."
Eureka!! Many thanks. I've been searching for just the right new user name.
Watch this space for Radler 2.0.
Coming soon...
Hessen Bub
01-31-09, 18:59
It would be great if I was allowed to take my laptop to work on something in between sessions, otherwise I have to look at leaving for a while and coming back again later. But this is not allowed as they are concerned about capture cams.
Not correct. It is allowed, you can use it in the relaxing area where they provide the newspapers. I did ask at the front desk. Answer was: It's allowed, but the girls don't like it. Haha, the girls don't like a lot of things, who cares.
HB
Ekliges Lauern
01-31-09, 20:16
Radler, I don't want to mention her name. However I am sure you know her. She has an arabian name and huge tits.
Why? The purpose of the forum is information sharing to help each other. What's the down side of mentioning her name?
Yep, I know Lucia (DR if memory serves). She tried to claim we went over half an hour when we didn't. I stood my ground and she backed down. So how is that any different from your complaint regarding Palace? Should not I conclude that Oase is full of sharks and management does nothing about it?
Lucia is not from DR, she is a well known Oase Romanian who claims always to be Italian- gives professional service and is constantly trying the upsell.
Paerchenclubs, Swingerclubs[/b]:This is an area I am fuzzy on. Maybe someone else who follows this forum can fill this section in (Iseeu? Are you out there?)
Well, since I was asked...
Berlin is the swinging capital of Germany. Probably the most per capita swinging clubs of any city in the world outside of Paris. Although there are a couple of decent clubs in the FRA area (Susi und Juergen's, Le Coq), just for sheer numbers (and decadence) advantage goes to Berlin.
M P Lurker
02-01-09, 00:21
Went to the Palace today.
No reason to complain about the showers. Were O.K.
Its true that most girls are wearing some article of clothing like a bum wrap or a neck scarf but perhaps 4 or 5 were completely nude from the knees up.
I asked two Thai girls about the lack of complete nudity, and they said there was no rule requiring clothes to be worn but that girls felt it was more sexy to have something even if a fishnet or see-through piece.
German Kim is absolutely georgous and seems that she is a lovely girl as well. She was busy virtually non-stop.
Toscana will be keen to hear that one of our mutual old favourites showed up this week and so I had a nice extended session with her. Radler and Felipe I think will want to know too. I am getting scared to give girls too much publicity as they are getting very f***ing busy.
I repeated with a very hot and stunning girl from last week and she is going to be known as an incredible super-star very soon, but was already quite busy today. She had no Gel which is not the greatest for extended fucking, even though her pussy gets naturally quite wet, so I supplied some Ritex myself. She loved it so much that I let her keep it and told her to buy at Schlecker.
She scored straight 9s and 10s accross the board in every category I could think of. So I won't be knocking her back LOL She was such a honey, never quits and just loves to please.
So despite some sharks in this place, there are some fantastic girls and I have only just scratched the surface.
Some girls are not busy and others are very busy.
I am guessing that most of the very busy ones must be known by the regulars to be superior.
Some other guys told me that Thai Miss Nina was really good, but I didn't try today.
M P Lurker
02-01-09, 00:23
Not correct. It is allowed, you can use it in the relaxing area where they provide the newspapers. I did ask at the front desk. Answer was: It's allowed, but the girls don't like it. Haha, the girls don't like a lot of things, who cares.
HB
Thanks for that.
It was not allowed some time in the past, but looks like rules are relaxing.
Hessen Bub
02-01-09, 14:33
Toscana will be keen to hear that one of our mutual old favourites showed up this week and so I had a nice extended session with her.
I repeated with a very hot and stunning girl from last week and she is going to be known as an incredible super-star very soon,
Any names? Without these remarks are quite worthless, sorry to say so.
HB
M P Lurker
02-01-09, 17:40
Any names? Without these remarks are quite worthless, sorry to say so.
HB
I am merely pointing out that great girls (and pretty) exist at the Palace (its not all gloom suggested by some posters), but having promoted their names recently, I don't want to over do it and suddenly find the girl is very hard to get to as permanently busy.
I have already shared these girls names! The really avid reader will have seen them not long ago. Other posters confirmed them too.
Perhaps I fear that some would ask why I keep harping on about the same girls over and over as though I can't see past them to some other hot girl. But I have a tendency to keep repeating really good girls in preference to taking a gambol.
Hessen Bub
02-01-09, 17:56
You shouldn't overrate the influence of ISG on the booking frequency of girls. The top acts are well known in the scene and through the German boards.
HB
M P Lurker
02-01-09, 18:20
You shouldn't overrate the influence of ISG on the booking frequency of girls. The top acts are well known in the scene and through the German boards.
HB
That's a good point. I am not German so not following the Lust and Roemer forums.
I sometimes get a bit frustrated when having to wait a long time to get a time slot with one of the very best girls.
Hint:
I had some nice DBK (Deep Brazilian Kissing). Not sure if the French girls kiss as good as Brazilians. Not sure if there are any French girls available to find that out. I can't even remember if I ever had a French girl in my whole life. Maybe that should be rectified. I am not counting a girl from Martinique that spoke French.
I will now RTFF and do a search on "French" hoping not to find only "french kissing".
I am merely pointing out that great girls (and pretty) exist at the Palace (its not all gloom suggested by some posters), but having promoted their names recently, I don't want to over do it and suddenly find the girl is very hard to get to as permanently busy.
I have already shared these girls names! The really avid reader will have seen them not long ago. Other posters confirmed them too.
Perhaps I fear that some would ask why I keep harping on about the same girls over and over as though I can't see past them to some other hot girl. But I have a tendency to keep repeating really good girls in preference to taking a gambol.
I agree with HB: You very much over-estimate the negative impact of naming a girl's name here so that we can fully benefit from constructive info in your post.
I always attempt to name the names. Scroll back to December and you will see I immediately reported a Brazilian girl named Kimi. This is one of the girls you refer to, right. DBK, right? Okay, Kimi is one name.
So who are the others?
Don't worry, there's an economic crisis now so none of us can afford to fly to Germany and visit these clubs anymore. Your safe. But let us know something specific, 'cause who knows: maybe we'll win the Lottery next week and....
Basketcase
02-01-09, 20:24
I agree with HB: You very much over-estimate the negative impact of naming a girl's name here so that we can fully benefit from constructive info in your post.
I always attempt to name the names. Scroll back to December and you will see I immediately reported a Brazilian girl named Kimi. This is one of the girls you refer to, right. DBK, right? Okay, Kimi is one name.
So who are the others?
Don't worry, there's an economic crisis now so none of us can afford to fly to Germany and visit these clubs anymore. Your safe. But let us know something specific, 'cause who knows: maybe we'll win the Lottery next week and....
Ortos,
From my comprehension style reading - Mick Licker was referring to Bee from Thailand as he has been harping on about her previously.
So the two based on our connecting the dots and touch points are that they are Bee (Thailand) and Kimi (Brazil). Yes, Bee had been spotted this week in Palace.
Very good Ortos,
Basketcase
M P Lurker
02-01-09, 20:36
Ortos,
From my comprehension style reading - Mick Licker was referring to Bee from Thailand as he has been harping on about her previously.
So the two based on our connecting the dots and touch points are that they are Bee (Thailand) and Kimi (Brazil). Yes, Bee had been spotted this week in Palace.
Very good Ortos,
Basketcase
O.K. my subtlety/subterfuge whatever was quite useless.
All is exposed.
Bee is daytime girl Thu-Sat and may stay a little late if not too many bookings already. Very hot body and performance. Probably doesn't do CIM I think, and I didn't ask for backdoor.
General consensus is she is the best Asian girl. Assisted tits but its not an exaggerated job. Still nice to touch.
But these girls are getting quite busy early on on a Saturday evening while Kimi is a relative newbie girl to the Palace (2 months). Of course she is drop dead georgous so its not hard for her to get a guy hooked and must be getting plenty of repeats too. She was good at everything and seems like a nice girl. She comments very favourably on other really nice girls too. Just cannot find anything wrong with her to pick on at all. I have to rate Kimi slightly higher than Bee for both prettiness and performance at this point but both are really great.
Ekliges Lauern
02-01-09, 20:44
O.K. my subtlety/subterfuge whatever was quite useless.
All is exposed.
As it should be. This forum should be about information sharing.
ISG influence is a tiny fraction of LS or RH. Still, good performers should be rewarded and bad ones penalized.
M P Lurker
02-01-09, 20:53
As it should be. This forum should be about information sharing.
ISG influence is a tiny fraction of LS or RH. Still, good performers should be rewarded and bad ones penalized.
Its strange. On the Thailand forum, I get plenty of comments that I shouldn't name favourite girls, as soon every guy will be copying me and will be difficult to see my favourite girls when I want to.
The attitude seems different here, so lets hope all the other ISGers are giving out the really hot girls' names too.
I was assuming lots of lurking readers living around here that might not ever post anything. Perhaps this is not likely if the local forums are very busy.
Ekliges Lauern
02-01-09, 20:56
Its strange. On the Thailand forum, I get plenty of comments that I shouldn't name favourite girls, as soon every guy will be copying me and will be difficult to see my favourite girls when I want to.
The attitude seems different here, so lets hope all the other ISGers are giving out the really hot girls' names too.
Most try to. A few senior members don't write reviews, but most do.
Thailand is different I think as the scene is so much larger I would think names would be meaningless.
See post further above...........................................
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